2023-05-08 · City Council · Transcript · Regular Council Meetings

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2023-05-08 source: 2023-05-08_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:02:09, 0:02:17]: There we go. All right. All right, ladies and gentlemen. Uh this is the uh actual ceremonial portion of our eighth May. [0:02:17, 0:02:25]: Council meeting. We have several different proclamations that I will be reading this evening. The first one deals with professional municipal clerks week. [0:02:25, 0:02:32]: Whereas the office of professional municipal clerk, a time honored and vital part of local government, exists throughout the world. [0:02:33, 0:02:47]: And the Office of Professional Municipal Clerk is the oldest among public servants. And whereas the Office of Professional Municipal Clerk provides a professional link between the citizens, the local governing bodies, and agencies of government at other levels. [0:02:48, 0:02:53]: Whereas professional municipal clerks have pledged to be either mi ever mindful of their neutrality [0:02:54, 0:02:57]: and impartiality rendering equal service to all. [0:02:57, 0:03:03]: Whereas a professional municipal clerk serves as an information center on functions of local government and community. [0:03:03, 0:03:08]: Whereas professional municipal clerks continually strive to improve the administration [0:03:08, 0:03:16]: Of the affairs of the Office of Professional Municipal Clerk through participation in educational programs, seminars, workshops, and the annual meeting of their state. [0:03:17, 0:03:31]: provisional, coun county and international profit uh professional organizations, whereas in the most appropriate that they recognize for the accomplishments of the office of professional municipal clerk. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, invested in me as a mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, [0:03:32, 0:03:35]: Now on behalf of city council members Elton Alexander, Delonda Barber, [0:03:35, 0:03:40]: John Blount, the KesiGantt, and the Fons of Thomas do hereby recognize a week of April thirtieth. [0:03:40, 0:03:56]: twenty twenty three through May sixth, twenty twenty three, as Professional Municipal Clerks Week, and further extend appreciation to our Professional Municipal Clerk Office team and all the professional municipal clerks for the vital services they perform and their excellent exclamation sermon. Ooh gosh. [0:03:57, 0:04:16]: Okay, a symbolator dedication to the communities they represent. It's a humdinger, right? And whereas therefore I have here unto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on the eighth day of May of the year of our Lord 2023, and I signed this along with our clerk for that's a holiday. Yes. Yes. [0:04:17, 0:04:37]: Is that correct? Mayor, I would ask that you present this to our deputy city clerk. Okay. Okay, there you go. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Fantastic. And we also have one for our other team member, Shari Lane. Okay. Thank you very much. [0:04:37, 0:04:41]: Right, did you want to hear any additional comments? [0:04:42, 0:04:49]: Thank you. All right. Yeah. You'll be fine. You want to go? Okay, I'll come on the back. [0:04:50, 0:04:57]: Shipped over this wizard? Okay. Yeah. Shipped over. Everybody should tell me I think you guys [0:05:05, 0:05:12]: Congratulations. All right. Thank you for watching. Thank you. [0:05:13, 0:05:14]: Congratulations, ladies. [0:05:15, 0:05:20]: All right. So what we have next is actually the public service recognition week. [0:05:20, 0:05:24]: And this for this proclamation. And uh the two of you, yes. [0:05:24, 0:05:25]: Okay. [0:05:26, 0:05:35]: Our two police are this is public service. You're public service. Police officers are public service. Come on, gentlemen. Randy. But isn't this oh okay. I'm sorry. [0:05:36, 0:05:37]: Excuse me? [0:05:38, 0:05:40]: I'm hard to hear. Okay. [0:05:44, 0:05:46]: Oh well he they will once this is done. [0:05:46, 0:05:47]: No problem. [0:05:47, 0:06:07]: Tim, why don't you come on up this side? Okay, there you go. Okay, there you go. Public Service Recognition Week. Whereas the concept of public service was first introduced in the U.S. Constitution in 1787. And whereas every year since 1985, the first week in May, has been set aside as Public Service Recognition Week, a time to thank a dedicated public service for. [0:06:07, 0:06:26]: From federal, state, local, and governments across the country. Whereas during Public Service Recognition Week, we express our gratitude to our nation's civil servants for their dedication to mission service stewardship. These members of our federal, state, and local government workforces deliver results for the American people, often without a claim. [0:06:26, 0:06:30]: Whereas each day millions of government employees serve their um fellow citizens [0:06:30, 0:06:50]: And we as a nation recognize the valuable role that they play in our communities. From the law enforcement officers, which we have two with among us right now, those who work in education, health care, transportation, and other public service careers, civil servants ensure government workers works for the American people. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford by virtual authority vested in me as the mayor of the city of the city. [0:06:50, 0:07:10]: Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Londa Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gann, and Fonsel Thomas, to hereby recognize May 7th to 13th, 2023 as a public service recognition week in the great city of Stockbridge. Thank you for your service to the citizens and businesses of Stockbridge. And witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand. [0:07:10, 0:07:19]: the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of May of the Year of Our Lord, two thousand twenty three, and I signed this along with our clerk for Nelson Holiday. [0:07:21, 0:07:41]: Come on over, gentlemen. All right. All right. Okay. There you go. And uh we got shift. Okay. And now, do you gentlemen have anything you want to say? Um we're great to be here. Glad to be here. [0:07:40, 0:07:41]: Yeah. [0:07:42, 0:07:57]: So to provide the service that we do for the citizens of Stark Bridge. And we're just happy to be here and serve every day. Okay, fantastic. I said group for that. If you shift over this way, please we don't want that. [0:08:02, 0:08:05]: We might have to double up or something like this, only two wide. [0:08:06, 0:08:15]: Yeah, yeah. Some maybe some people come across. She's got to this way. [0:08:20, 0:08:29]: Okay there we go. Come out Tom here. Come out this way. Okay, yeah, come out this way. [0:08:40, 0:08:46]: Thank you. All right. Good deal. [0:08:47, 0:08:48]: Okay. [0:09:08, 0:09:14]: So our next proclamation is going to be the Southern Crescent chapter, Natural Women of Achievement Incorporated. [0:09:14, 0:09:18]: So come on up as we uh read this for you. [0:09:20, 0:09:20]: Thank you. [0:09:38, 0:09:58]: Glad to see you, Janet. Okay. Southern Crescent chapter of National Women of Achievement Incorporated, whereas National Women of Achievement Incorporated award scholarships to assist graduating high school students with tuition, fees, or books, etc. Scholarship recipients are selected based on their academic record, student written essays, letters of recommendation, leadership skills. [0:09:58, 0:10:18]: Community service participation and extracurricular activities. Whereas the National Women of Achievement encourages youth through our scholarship program and recognize outstanding community leaders through our annual profiles of prominence. And whereas the Southern Crescent Chapter of National Women of Achievement Incorporated is charged to expand organizational program quote program. [0:10:18, 0:10:19]: Progmatic. [0:10:20, 0:10:40]: Boundaries and the National Women of Achievement incorporated as an affective service organization by utilizing the individual and collective strengths of all achievers and by partnering with businesses, educational, religious, governmental, and service communities outside the realm reams of National Women of Achievement incorporated to affect change. And whereas Dr. Darling [0:10:40, 0:11:00]: Ruffin Alexander is a charter member of the Atlanta Midtown Chapter, NWOA Incorporated, and currently chairs as parliamentarian. Dr. Darlene Ruffin Alexander was named Vice President of the Health Services, managed full continuation of care and served as a CEO, served as a volunteer administrator, and has distinction of being the first African American. [0:11:00, 0:11:19]: African American to lead the shared leadership in major head uh health care companies and recognized by her peers as a dean of long-term care. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Four, by virtue of authority, vested me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Londa Barber, John Blount, Lukeesia Gantt and Afonso Thomas, [0:11:19, 0:11:23]: Do hereby recognize you, Doctor Ruffin Alexander in the Southern Crescent chapter. [0:11:23, 0:11:43]: National Women of Achievement Incorporated for some surmountable laboring in the uh vineyard and years of civic leadership. In witness thereof, I have here hereunto set my hand to the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of May, year of Alord, 2023, and I signed the proclamation along with Vanessa. [0:11:43, 0:12:03]: Holiday. Congratulations. She also received the um Lifetime Achievement Award on last Saturday. Okay. So yeah. Fantastic. Fantastic. Let's get photo. Congratulations. I think we need to scoot a little bit this way. Do you want to say any words, sir? No. [0:12:03, 0:12:10]: Okay, yeah okay. Okay. [0:12:11, 0:12:13]: Thank you. [0:12:21, 0:12:25]: Congratulations. Congratulations. [0:12:26, 0:12:28]: Uh well, whatever you'd like to do here. [0:12:38, 0:12:40]: I think it allows too so we could shoot. [0:12:52, 0:12:54]: Yeah, you have to come over here, please. [0:12:59, 0:13:02]: Okay. The microphones. Oh goodness. [0:13:03, 0:13:07]: I got a big mouth, y'all can hear me. Go right ahead, please. Okay. [0:13:07, 0:13:15]: I am Sharon Daniels Mosley. I'm the president of Southern Crescent Chapter, National Women of Achievement Incorporated. [0:13:15, 0:13:30]: A proud citizen of Stockbridge. Each year, Southern Crescent honors individuals who turn out in their stand out in their service to their community and is being noticed by others that they don't even know they're being noticed by. [0:13:31, 0:13:38]: They are busy completing their assignments without an agenda and receive in and doesn't receive any credit. [0:13:38, 0:13:42]: This is Mayor Anthony Ford. He shows up in the [0:13:42, 0:13:44]: Least likely places [0:13:44, 0:13:44]: Like [0:13:45, 0:13:46]: The community guard. [0:13:46, 0:13:49]: He's working, he takes his assignment to heart. [0:13:50, 0:13:51]: And he works with his community. [0:13:52, 0:13:53]: He is the people's mayor. [0:13:54, 0:13:55]: And we thank you. [0:13:56, 0:13:58]: For being an [0:13:58, 0:14:05]: Not just an ordinary human being but an astronaut ordinary. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. [0:14:06, 0:14:16]: Thank you. This this is what it looks like. Thank you. I appreciate that. I'll I'll put this in my office by the way. I will hold you down. [0:14:21, 0:14:41]: Congratulations. Thank you very much. Let me put this down here for right now. Okay. Okay. Mental Health Awareness Month. The next proclamation. I do not know if anybody's here for that to receive that proclamation, but I will read it. Okay? Mental health. Mental health. [0:14:41, 0:14:43]: No, no, no. [0:14:43, 0:14:47]: You have someone who's here coming foot? [0:14:49, 0:15:04]: All right. All right. So we'll go to the next one there. The next one would be at uh hopefully that individual get here shortly. The next one will be the Na uh National Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Islander Heritage Month. I don't know anybody here. [0:15:04, 0:15:11]: Well I'm gonna run out run out of space here in a minute. I'm gonna go run out of space in a minute. See if we keep okay. Uh [0:15:13, 0:15:15]: Yeah, I think we are a little bit ahead. Okay. [0:15:16, 0:15:26]: Can I do this one now? Well said. Okay. Small business. No, no, no, no. That's not small business. National Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month. I individuals wanna come for four four forward for that? Okay. [0:15:32, 0:15:33]: She she's coming? [0:15:36, 0:15:56]: Okay, come on, please. I don't saw you earlier. That's all right. This is a family thing. Proclamation once again, National Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month. Whereas May is uh Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month and the NHTSA reminds vehicle drivers and motorcycles. [0:15:56, 0:16:16]: Motorists that save driving and riding practices or and cooperation from all road users will help reduce the number of fatalities and injuries on our nation's highways. And whereas motorcycles are some of the most vulnerable drivers on the road by the nature of their choice of vehicle, motorcycles are smaller and easier to miss. They move quickly and can [0:16:16, 0:16:36]: Blend into the pavement so there are much higher risk of being in an accident. And whereas this May, the U.S. Department of Transportation's National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, NHTSA, is teaming up with Brock's performance to remind all motorists of motorcyclist safety and everyone's safety. Is everyone's safe? [0:16:36, 0:16:36]: Five. [0:16:36, 0:16:40]: May is Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month and at the end of May users [0:16:41, 0:16:46]: uh us uh ushers, I'm sorry, in the unofficial start of the summer and road travel season. [0:16:46, 0:16:54]: Safe riding and driving practices and cooperation from all road users will help reduce the number of fatalities and injuries on our nation's highways. [0:16:55, 0:17:15]: And where safe driving and riding practices from all road users, drivers and riders alike will help reduce the number of fatalities and injuries on our nation's highways. Motor vehicle drivers and motorcyclists should keep the following tips in mind when on the road. Observe all traffic laws and always obey the speed limit. Drive and ride. [0:17:15, 0:17:35]: Alcohol and drug-free, avoid distractions that place other road users at risk, yield to motorcyclists, especially while turning in intersections, where high visibility personnel protected gear and DOT compliant motorcycle motorcycle helmets. Now, therefore, I Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority best than me. [0:17:34, 0:17:36]: as a mayor city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:17:37, 0:17:47]: And on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Ilana Barber, John Blount, Lakeese Gantt and Afonso Thomas, do hereby proclaim May 2023 as Motorcyclist Safety Awareness Month. [0:17:47, 0:18:07]: We can we call upon motorcycle riders to commit the safe driving and riding and to our role of ensuring a safe motorcycle riding environment. In witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand on the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of May year of my Lord, two thousand and twenty three, and I signed a proclamation with my clerk for Nessa Holiday. [0:18:11, 0:18:12]: Congratulations. [0:18:12, 0:18:15]: Any words, sir, that you wanna say? [0:18:16, 0:18:20]: We appreciate it and we really need to be looked out for'cause the stock greezy is dangerous. [0:18:23, 0:18:34]: In reference to motorcyclist. [0:18:38, 0:18:39]: Yeah. [0:18:51, 0:19:08]: Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate you as well. That's mine. I need that. Okay. Huh? It's in the photos. Can you put it? I think it's in the phone. It's in a p really bright photo when I'm taking a picture of Angor. Okay. All right, sir, I'll put it over there. [0:19:11, 0:19:17]: I didn't realize I'm thinking about I appreciate it. All right, so [0:19:20, 0:19:27]: So I have National Mental Health Awareness Month. There was someone scheduled. [0:19:27, 0:19:32]: And then and then we have uh national eight business. Well I don't have I don't have a small business right here in front of me. [0:19:34, 0:19:35]: No I don't have it here. [0:19:36, 0:19:38]: I don't I don't know what's over there with you or anywhere else. [0:19:39, 0:19:40]: It's not right it's not right here. [0:19:43, 0:19:45]: It's I don't have it up right here either. [0:19:50, 0:19:52]: A phone is still down on your desk. [0:19:54, 0:20:00]: Okay. I uh I think I gave'em all to Okay, well, okay, so be it. [0:20:01, 0:20:21]: Which one is it? Uh Natural Day National Day of Prayer. I'll go I'll do this one because you're saying that there's somebody else waiting to to receive these other two. And then there's a small business ones, then there's uh the Pure Zion. I mean uh Asian American Pacific and then mental health. Those two of Asian American Pacific Islander and then uh [0:20:21, 0:20:25]: And there's someone to receive that with you. Yes, and mental health. They're both in round. [0:20:26, 0:20:41]: Okay. So right down this is a national day of prayer. Now I actually uh we'll do this again today. We did this on the uh Thursday, the fourth of May. Uh Mr. Blount uh had a that's an em that's you know this always give me thank you so much. Okay. [0:20:44, 0:20:49]: We did this the other day, so we will do this again and put it on record. Uh, for you, sir. [0:20:51, 0:21:02]: Okay. Now's the day of prayer. Whereas throughout history Americans have lifted up fervent prayers to God on behalf of our nation from the first gathering of our founding fathers, elected officials [0:21:03, 0:21:08]: Have prayed and entreated those that serve and represent to join them in prayer. [0:21:08, 0:21:17]: Whereas the National Day of Prayer that we know today was founded in 1952 and it was co-founded uh co-founded effort between the United States Congress and President Harry S. Trum Truman. [0:21:18, 0:21:25]: Whereas this year's theme prayed fervently in righteousness and and vell march veil much, excuse me. [0:21:25, 0:21:45]: Is based on the verses of James 5:16b. The effective and fervent prayer of righteousness men avails much. And whereas on National Day of Prayer, people of different faiths are invited to pray for the United States of America and its leaders. And whereas every Thursday of May on National Day of Prayer, we not only express our faith and exercise [0:21:45, 0:21:46]: [1306.8, 1312.9]: But unite our hearts and voices in personal prayer and public gatherings throughout our city and across America. [0:21:53, 0:22:06]: with fervent praise, repentance, love, and humble intercession for our neighbor and nation, holding fast to the promises throughout the Holy Scriptures that the Lord hears and avails much as he answers the faith filled prayers of his people. [0:22:06, 0:22:19]: Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, vested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Alonda Barber, John Blount, Nikesi Gann, and Alphonso Thomas, to hereby proclaim May fourth, twenty twenty three, [0:22:19, 0:22:39]: As a national air of prayer in the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia, we invite the citizens of our beloved community to give thanks in accordance with their own faith and consciousness, consciousness, for many freedoms and blessings, spiritual guidance, mercy, and protection. A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand to the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:22:39, 0:22:50]: I eighth May uh on the eighth day of May in the year of our Lord 2023 and I signed this along with our uh Clerk Vanessa holiday. [0:22:51, 0:22:52]: The m the mice over here. [0:22:54, 0:22:55]: Well I'm just [0:22:56, 0:23:11]: I'm just gonna speak briefly. I just think that uh I think I speak for all of my council members. I believe we all believe in prayer and I just believe that once we all come on one accord that things can be achieved and uh I think the city for recognize the National Day of Prayer. [0:23:11, 0:23:16]: Fantastic. Okay. You need to go. Okay. [0:23:17, 0:23:18]: I hear. [0:23:24, 0:23:28]: Thank you. Okay. All right. So [0:23:28, 0:23:37]: This is the most proclamations ever done in one city. I would I know that's a fac that's a fac. That's a now this you you you can have it, sir. [0:23:37, 0:23:46]: Yeah, two uh yeah, two we have two more left here. And uh actually I think we're waiting on three. Uh actually three. [0:23:48, 0:23:48]: So [0:23:49, 0:23:55]: We have our guest here for a small business, she's already here sitting at uh preachy getting peachy. [0:24:02, 0:24:11]: And I need some more water because of all the talking, right? And enunciation of words that throw me a loop, but [0:24:11, 0:24:31]: Yeah, the clerk had put out a schedule with like a time on it, so I kinda told them kind of different times that she gave on the schedule and I think small business ones were like some of them were like five forty five, five, right. [0:24:31, 0:24:34]: Writing probably turn off the back. [0:27:15, 0:27:16]: All right. [0:27:18, 0:27:26]: Mike, it's on. It's on. How are you doing, sir? Good fine. Good. Mr. Jenkins, Stark Ridge resident, mental health professional. Yes, sir. [0:27:27, 0:27:32]: Okay, we'll continue on w with our ceremonial process here for proclamation. National Mental Health Awareness Month. [0:27:33, 0:27:44]: Whereas the area of someone lives and plays a significant role in their overall health and well-being, whereas surroundings can impact if, how, and when a person needs are met, which in turn affects mental health. [0:27:44, 0:28:04]: Whereas having safe, stable, and healthy home conditions set the foundation for achieving and maintaining good mental health. Whereas with early and effective interventions, those individuals with mental health conditions can recover and lead full, productive lives. Whereas each business, school, government, agency, health care provider, organization, and citizen shares the burden of [0:28:04, 0:28:15]: burden of mental health problems and has the responsibility to promote mental health, mental wellness and support prevention efforts. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtual authority investing in me, as a mayor of City Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:28:15, 0:28:22]: On behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Ilana Barber, John Blount, Lukees again, and Alfonso Thomas do hereby proclaim [0:28:22, 0:28:40]: May twenty twenty three is Mental Health Awareness Month and call upon citizens, us citizens, government agencies, public and private institutions, businesses and schools and starboards to recommit our community to increasing awareness and understanding of mental health, the steps our citizens can take to prevent their mental health [0:28:40, 0:28:59]: and the need for appropriate and accessible services for all people with mental health conditions. And witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand on the great seal of the city Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of May of the year of our Lord, two thousand twenty three, and assigned a proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holliday. Sir thank you very much. Thank you. [0:29:01, 0:29:21]: Yes, sir. Uh I appreciate the recognition. Uh as an LPC. I know that there's a need for a lot of uh counseling and maybe in the city of Stockbridge we'd have some more uh resources and partner with our law enforcement union officers to make sure that uh we get like the services at the jail and in other areas and in our public schools too. I think that mental health [0:29:21, 0:29:31]: It should be as essential as physical health. So it should be a normal part of our services here at the city of Stockwells. Thank you very much. [0:29:31, 0:29:51]: Uh also the the the city of Stockbridge just implemented a mental health component good to uh r uh processing resolutions with people with mental health with the police department. Good, good, good, good. Thank you. Okay, so we need to take a picture right down here. And she's also a therapist. Outstanding. Yeah. All right. Good deal. Come on and shift in. [0:29:51, 0:29:52]: Oh too. [0:29:53, 0:29:56]: We've got some connections here. We gotta get everywhere. [0:29:56, 0:30:02]: Okay, so that's before that one? Okay. That came too far. [0:30:02, 0:30:05]: Shift up in the center, the seal. [0:30:14, 0:30:21]: Thank you. Congratulations to you, sir. Thank you for making it on the last minute. [0:30:23, 0:30:27]: Absolutely. [0:30:30, 0:30:37]: I would imagine that you may be here to receive a proclamation. Okay. Come on up, please. [0:30:39, 0:30:59]: And you can come with your family as well. They can c they're more than welcome to come. Come on over here, please. All right. This is nothing our next proclamation deals with national Asian, American and Pacific Islander. [0:30:58, 0:31:18]: Heritage Month. Whereas as Asian Americans and Pacific Islander Heritage Month is a month to celebrate and pay tribute to the contributions of Asian Pacific Americans to our American history, society, and culture. Whereas the month of May has chosen because it commemorates the immigration of first Japanese residents in the United States in 1843. In addition, May [0:31:18, 0:31:38]: Also marks the completion of the Transcontinental Railroad in 1869, which was built with the labor of mostly Chinese immigrants. And whereas Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders are leaders in all aspects of American life, including government and industry, science and medicine, the arts and armed forces, and education and sports are critical to our future success. [0:31:38, 0:31:58]: And whereas 24 million people in the United States identify as Asian, with 1.6 million identifying as native Hawaiian, Pacific Islander, or a combination. These diverse communities have enriched this country and generations. And whereas during the month of May, we encourage everyone to reflect on Asian American resilience, particularly against the alarming rise of hate crimes. [0:31:58, 0:32:05]: Have seen in recent years. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, vested in me as the mayor city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:32:05, 0:32:25]: On behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Nakisa Gantt and Afonso Thomas, do hereby proclaim May 2023 as Asian American and Islander Heritage Month. We call upon the people of Stockbridge Community to learn more about the history of Asian Americans, Native Hawaiians, Pacific Islanders, and to observe this month with an appropriate program. [0:32:25, 0:32:38]: programs and activities, and witness thereof I have here unto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of May of the year of our Lord, two thousand twenty three, and I signed the proclamation along with our cleric Vanessa holiday. [0:32:41, 0:32:59]: Any comments that you'd like to make? No, I really appreciate the acknowledgement of this month and appreciate being here today. Thank you. Okay. I'll stand. Appreciate it. Keep using a scent. I'll stand. Keep getting a scent. Okay. If I could say a few words, it'll be right. [0:33:00, 0:33:04]: Excuse me, as a response to the I think I'd like to say a few words. Okay, sure. [0:33:05, 0:33:09]: Okay, [0:33:16, 0:33:21]: This is on it. [0:38:46, 0:38:47]: So [0:42:08, 0:42:15]: So we are doing what we can to recognize all the great work you can do. [0:42:16, 0:42:18]: We got uh [0:42:37, 0:42:43]: I think appreciate it. Okay, now I have um I have one more last proclamation to read. [0:42:43, 0:42:51]: Oh, what's the one? [0:42:51, 0:42:55]: Last proclamation tonight will be Teachers Appreciation Week. [0:42:56, 0:43:05]: Whereas whereas teachers mold future citizens through guidance and education, whereas teachers encounter students of widely differing backgrounds. [0:43:06, 0:43:26]: Whereas our county's future depends on providing quality education to all students. Whereas teachers spend countless hours preparing lessons, elevating progress, counseling, and coaching students, and performing community service. Whereas the community recognizes and supports its teachers and educating children in the community. Now, therefore, I am Anthony Sword by Virtual Authority Vestor Maine, the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:43:26, 0:43:46]: On behalf of city council members, Elton Alzandry, Yelanda Barber, John Blount, Keysha Gantt and Afons of Thomas do hereby proclaim the week of 8th May to uh 12 May 2023 as teaching appreciation week in the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia. A witness thereof I have here unto set my hand the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of May of the year of our Lord, 2023. [0:43:45, 0:43:49]: and I signed the proclamation along with the clerk Vanessa Holiday. [0:43:49, 0:43:52]: I'm gonna get hand with you, sir, at this point, okay? [0:43:55, 0:43:57]: You want you want any words, no? [0:43:59, 0:44:12]: Um I just wanna say that uh I have a daughter that's my oldest daughter is a school teacher. Uh she writes curriculum for uh KIP Academy and she just got promoted to assistant person. Fantastic. [0:44:14, 0:44:15]: And call us. [0:44:25, 0:44:29]: Yeah, okay. All right. [0:44:31, 0:44:36]: And it looks like we'll be starting the meeting roughly uh twelve minutes from now. [0:53:18, 0:53:18]: [3264.3, 3265.9]: [0:54:54, 0:54:55]: Mm. [0:55:15, 0:55:16]: Mm. [0:55:24, 0:55:26]: [3370.7, 3371.4]: [0:58:04, 0:58:07]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna get started with a meaning, please. [0:58:22, 0:58:38]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have uh six oh one and I'd like to call the city council meeting for Monday, eighth of may twenty twenty three, to order. Invocation, uh Mr. Lantz, please. He's our economic director for city starburish. If you can, please stand. [0:58:53, 0:58:55]: Thank you for this thing. [0:59:08, 0:59:10]: This is a major C D. [0:59:10, 0:59:15]: think for everything that we'll continue to do for the C C for its rise. [0:59:19, 0:59:36]: Amen. Pledge allegiance to Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to the Republic for which it stands one nation, underground, individual, with liberty and justice. [0:59:37, 0:59:39]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:59:43, 0:59:46]: Port. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Barber. [0:59:46, 0:59:47]: Present. [0:59:47, 0:59:52]: Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilman Blount. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:59:54, 1:00:07]: No. Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh Council, I need a motion to amend it agenda to remove item number 12. [1:00:15, 1:00:23]: Can I receive a motion to remove and that particular removing this? My understanding the purpose is that the the uh [1:00:23, 1:00:34]: The i the type the the item is not ready for uh for presentation t this evening. And it will be sometime before the end of the month, because I think it's due by the end of the month. Is that correct, Madam Clerk? That is correct, ma'am. [1:00:35, 1:00:37]: Chair Ford, I make a motion to table [1:00:37, 1:00:57]: Um item twelve council consideration to approve the city's liability insurance policy. So I second to the motion. It's oh excuse me. For tonight, yes. Okay, she said said uh to table. [1:00:57, 1:01:05]: I just wanna make sure that's actually moving it from the agenda. It is. Okay. All right. I would say it is. And our attorney, anything any different? [1:01:07, 1:01:09]: You wanna put a period of time that you wanna come back? [1:01:10, 1:01:16]: It's it's gotta come back before the end of uh before thirty one May, is my understanding. Right, put a date on it. [1:01:17, 1:01:18]: Please. [1:01:19, 1:01:19]: Yeah. [1:01:20, 1:01:20]: Okay. [1:01:21, 1:01:32]: So we're tabling it to our council work session, our May council work session. Ma'am. Yes, ma'am. The item needs to c will come back prior to May nineteenth. [1:01:32, 1:01:34]: Oh before May nineteenth. [1:01:35, 1:01:36]: Okay. [1:01:37, 1:01:39]: Okay, probably May nineteenth. [1:01:40, 1:01:43]: Mayor Ford, ask that we table this [1:01:44, 1:01:50]: And that it returned back to the council prior to May nineteenth. Certain. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [1:01:50, 1:02:05]: Yeah. Is there a proposed date to bring it back? Yeah before before the nineteenth. We have to call a special call meeting to do this. Is that a proposed date? Uh it was it was sent out to council. I need a consensus on the date. You have responded, uh, Councilman Blount. [1:02:06, 1:02:10]: Right, I'm saying but if we have a consistent of a date, why don't we just submit it by the date? [1:02:12, 1:02:22]: Well w if the motion is due b pri prior to nineteenth, the clerk has mentioned that. It's gotta be done prior to that, so it have to be a special call meeting. Somehow we have to continue to work on what it what a consensus would be for the meeting. [1:02:23, 1:02:26]: All right. So once again the motion was made, second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:02:26, 1:02:34]: Yeah, well thank you. It passes. Okay. Now uh council, I need a motion to accept the rest of the agenda, please. So move. Mr. Alexander, is there a second? [1:02:35, 1:02:37]: Miss Barber Secondette. All in favor, please indicate. [1:02:38, 1:02:52]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Okay. Well before you council, you have the admin uh adoption of uh retreat minutes for March 20th, 21st, and 22nd, and adoption of work session minutes on uh March 23rd. [1:02:52, 1:02:55]: If there are no changes, I need a motion to accept those minutes in direct, please. [1:02:56, 1:03:00]: Okay, Mr Blount? Circuit. And Mr. Alexander Arm Fay, please indicate. [1:03:00, 1:03:04]: Thank you, appreciate that. Uh Madam Clerk, do you have any public comments at all? [1:03:05, 1:03:25]: Mayor. Okay, thank you, ma'am. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, ceremonial. Uh we had several different proclamations. The matter early part of the meeting uh started at five o'clock roughly. Eight proclamations, three proclamations. And in my tenure of being a mayor, that's the that's the most proclamations we had at any one time. Uh but it's fantastic. And I it's I'm happy to know that uh we the council [1:03:25, 1:03:33]: Also identifying and showing diversity and a sense of recognizing people with many talents and many skills. [1:03:33, 1:03:36]: What we did here the proclamations for the municipal clerk week. [1:03:37, 1:03:46]: And we have a clerk's office officer here. Public service recognition. And we had our our police officers present. National Women of Achievement. We had representatives from that organization as well. [1:03:46, 1:03:50]: Mental Health Awareness Month, we recognize that an individual received that proclamation. [1:03:51, 1:03:53]: Asian American and Pacific Islander Month. [1:03:53, 1:04:13]: That's for the month of May. We had someone uh to also receive that. National Day of Prayer, which happens on an annual basis. It's an initiative that Mr. Blount has, and we did that. And we also acknowledge uh National Small Business Week as well to acknowledge our small businesses in the uh city of Stockbridge and also small businesses is actually what really makes the world go round, right? [1:04:13, 1:04:18]: And then we we honored and recognized Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month, which is the month of May as well. [1:04:19, 1:04:38]: And so we did all those earlier and uh it was great that we we did those. I I love those those proclamations ceremonial part to recognize these different individuals and just different organizations. On that note, we'll move on to presentation. FY 2024 uh budget process timeline. And uh okay [1:04:39, 1:04:42]: John Wiggins, sir, our finance director is going to brief us on that. Thank you, sir. [1:04:45, 1:04:47]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [1:04:48, 1:04:49]: Good evening. [1:05:43, 1:05:44]: Okay. [1:05:45, 1:05:53]: Appreciate it, sir. Go right ahead. This is the City Manager FY twenty-four budget process presentation. [1:05:56, 1:05:56]: Really. [1:05:57, 1:05:58]: Yeah. [1:05:58, 1:06:00]: Go through the presentation I [1:06:00, 1:06:02]: The purpose of this meeting [1:06:02, 1:06:06]: Is get an understanding of the manager's budget philosophy. [1:06:06, 1:06:09]: Learn about the budget process per the city charter. [1:06:10, 1:06:12]: discussion on council's budget. [1:06:13, 1:06:19]: priorities and outline the FY twenty four budget milestones to adoption. [1:06:25, 1:06:27]: Start off with the strategic priorities. [1:06:29, 1:06:31]: The first one the quality of life. [1:06:32, 1:06:32]: Well [1:06:32, 1:06:38]: This right here was to create an environment that fosters an enjoyable life for all citizens and visitors. [1:06:38, 1:06:40]: So they want [1:06:41, 1:06:44]: To stay here, build businesses here and retire here. [1:06:45, 1:06:46]: Next one was economic. [1:06:47, 1:06:48]: Economic growth [1:06:49, 1:06:52]: Support activities that stimulate the local economy. [1:06:53, 1:06:57]: So да the city can provide a higher standard of living for the citizens. [1:06:58, 1:07:01]: Third one was culture and brand development. [1:07:02, 1:07:07]: Invest in and support things that positively affect the culture. [1:07:08, 1:07:13]: and brand of our staff and the city so that people will want to work and live here. [1:07:14, 1:07:17]: And the last one, fourth one, sustainability. [1:07:18, 1:07:24]: Be sustainable in how we address our assets, our services, our finances. [1:07:25, 1:07:28]: The environment and our people so we can thrive. [1:07:28, 1:07:30]: For many years to come. [1:07:33, 1:07:35]: Budget development flow chart. [1:07:41, 1:07:45]: First we start off with we we developed the budget calendar. That's what [1:07:45, 1:07:49]: the city manager has already uh put in place. Next [1:07:49, 1:07:55]: We project all funds and revenues and expenditures. We're in the process of of doing that now. [1:07:56, 1:07:58]: Department proposed expenditures. [1:08:00, 1:08:02]: Submission to the city council. [1:08:06, 1:08:09]: City Council review advertisement of budget. [1:08:11, 1:08:13]: Oh let me go back. I'm sorry. [1:08:14, 1:08:15]: I messed up there. [1:08:15, 1:08:21]: After the department proposed expenditures, we jump down the CD manager and the finance reviews. [1:08:21, 1:08:24]: uh the proposed expenditures from the department. [1:08:24, 1:08:31]: Next, we we go through changes and adjustments to the budget request, then submission to the city council. [1:08:32, 1:08:37]: From there we go from city council review and and then at the same time we advertise [1:08:37, 1:08:38]: uh the budget. [1:08:40, 1:08:42]: And then we have two public hearings. [1:08:43, 1:08:45]: And we have budget open houses. [1:08:46, 1:08:49]: And then from there we go to the adoption of the budget. [1:08:49, 1:08:54]: Which the goal is the first meeting in December twenty twenty three. [1:09:00, 1:09:02]: Wanna highlight some of the [1:09:02, 1:09:04]: Some of the city budget priorities. [1:09:05, 1:09:08]: One of them is water and sewer infrastructure improvement. [1:09:09, 1:09:11]: Improvements to the existing parks. [1:09:12, 1:09:15]: Implementation of all splash funded projects. [1:09:16, 1:09:17]: street improvements. [1:09:18, 1:09:21]: New paving and sidewalk improvement. [1:09:21, 1:09:23]: Downtown redevelopment. [1:09:24, 1:09:26]: Rehabilitation of Mirror Manual Center. [1:09:27, 1:09:29]: Funding for the Cultural Arts Center. [1:09:29, 1:09:32]: and funding for our police department. [1:09:37, 1:09:38]: Last slide. [1:09:39, 1:09:43]: We get to the FY twenty four budget process timeline. [1:09:46, 1:09:50]: May fifth, we distribute the budget worksheet, which is has been done. [1:09:51, 1:09:52]: Next [1:09:52, 1:09:53]: May tenth through the eleventh. [1:09:54, 1:09:55]: Or May tenth through the twelfth. [1:09:57, 1:09:58]: City manager has a budget retreat. [1:10:00, 1:10:00]: With staff. [1:10:01, 1:10:03]: to go over their budget worksheets. [1:10:04, 1:10:06]: And to get their presentations. [1:10:07, 1:10:08]: June second. [1:10:09, 1:10:15]: We have capital budgets are due to the CD manager and the finance officer. [1:10:15, 1:10:16]: July seventh. [1:10:17, 1:10:20]: Capital budget submission to the city council. [1:10:21, 1:10:28]: July twenty first, we have a draft budget review by manager and city and and finance officer. [1:10:30, 1:10:31]: August tenth through the eleventh. [1:10:32, 1:10:34]: Mayor and City Council budget retreat. [1:10:36, 1:10:37]: October ninth. [1:10:38, 1:10:39]: Submit final draft. [1:10:40, 1:10:42]: Budget to mayor and council. [1:10:44, 1:10:47]: Public hearing is on November the thirteenth and November the twenty eighth. [1:10:49, 1:10:51]: And then budget adoption. [1:10:51, 1:10:52]: At the city council meeting. [1:10:52, 1:10:53]: DSML. [1:11:00, 1:11:05]: That was a quick overview of the city manager's budget process. [1:11:06, 1:11:12]: Specifically going over his budget calendar uh for the upcoming t FY twenty four budget. [1:11:13, 1:11:31]: Appreciate it, uh Mr. Wiggins. It it seems as though the timeline and the process is a little is it's um it's uh a little earlier than it was last year. So I believe that's a good thing to get started on things earlier to try to project things out. That's true. Okay, so that's I think that's a good thing in that aspect. Councillor, any questions? Miss Barber, go ahead please. [1:11:31, 1:11:35]: The budget worksheet you said it was sent out May fifth? [1:11:36, 1:11:43]: Yes, it's already been sent out to the uh department head. Was it to the department head? Yes. Okay. Thank you for clarifying that. Oh no problem. [1:11:45, 1:11:46]: Council, any other questions? [1:11:47, 1:11:56]: All right, good. Thank you. Look forward to that. That means your budget uh retreat with the ca with the staff is this week. It is. Okay, fantastic. Take care. Appreciate it. [1:11:57, 1:12:07]: Old business. Council consideration to appoint Stockbridge representative to the Trans transportation advisory group. Okay, says Mr. Gardner here. Is that you back to you, Mr. Wiggins? Okay. [1:12:10, 1:12:13]: No, m Miss Brecker Carl, she's gonna take care of it. Okay, sure. No problem. [1:12:17, 1:12:21]: Good evening, Mayor Council. How are you all tonight? Right. [1:12:23, 1:12:35]: So this is an old business item as um the transportation advisory group was formed um by the Henry County Board of Commissioners in order to have representatives from all of the [1:12:35, 1:12:37]: All five commission districts. [1:12:37, 1:12:46]: The chairperson and to have a representative from all four cities to gain input and provide um input on the transportation plan. [1:12:47, 1:13:07]: Um they were able to update the transportation plan, develop a transit master plan, and prepare a tra a trails plan. And of course, the city has adopted that joint plan as of last year. So this is for a transportation advisory group appointee that was appointed initially from the [1:13:07, 1:13:27]: City of Stockbridge. His name is N.L. Gonzalez, and he is an engineer with DRMP Inc. Engineers and Surveyors Company and with a specialization in roadway transportation. And so this is just the count, the county has asked us for a reappointment, either an appointment or reappointment. [1:13:27, 1:13:31]: appointment of for this position on that board to represent the city of Stockbridge. [1:13:31, 1:13:51]: This gentleman's thing is Mr. Gonzalez, you said? Yes. NEL Gonzalez. Okay. So counsel, is there a motion to accept Mr. Gonzalez to continue on as uh as a representative on this transportation? That's the question. What's your question, sir? Yeah, talk about the process, but their meetings, and then uh obviously, certainly if the the representative should be coming to [1:13:51, 1:13:55]: to the council to talk with us to uh [1:13:56, 1:14:16]: brief us on what's going on so we can kinda have uh see what uh the interplay is. So how does that work out or as far as that person um coming back to us and then uh reviewing some of that information with us. Um well at this point I know that uh Mr Enniel Gonzalez has provided his input [1:14:16, 1:14:36]: to the tag board. But I will, if he is reappointed or if he does need to provide an overview of his specific contribution. However, the contribution is across the board for the appointees per their jurisdiction. But if it is the will of the council [1:14:36, 1:14:41]: for him to come and brief um the council periodically or his quarterly. [1:14:41, 1:14:47]: Um then I can be sure to make sure he knows that and that's can be a condition of the appointment. [1:14:47, 1:14:52]: Uh I certainly would like to see that. I'd like Rich or more members to council members to chime in. [1:14:54, 1:15:12]: Ms. uh okay, Ms. Barber says okay, that's good. You gentlemen? Okay, m okay. You have a question, Mr. Mill? Yes. Go right, please. I I guess my question still goes back to before because up until the last meeting when we talked about this, I never knew that was a transportation advisory group. [1:15:13, 1:15:16]: So now that it's formulated now to have a board. [1:15:16, 1:15:23]: My question m then was, is this person a voting member for the city of Stockbridge on this board? [1:15:24, 1:15:29]: How many people on the board and how much weight I'm just I don't know anything about the board. Okay. [1:15:29, 1:15:33]: So the the current um transportation um advisory group [1:15:34, 1:15:54]: Is a num is 10 citizens. They are appointees from all five commission districts, and then a sixth for the chairman of the board of commissioners, along with um four different folks from each jurisdiction, which are the cities. So it gives us a total of ten. And each of those folks. [1:15:54, 1:16:03]: Provide input and represent their municipality or the district that they're in for the county commissioners. [1:16:03, 1:16:07]: So when they when they vote pertaining to this board. [1:16:08, 1:16:13]: Does their boat carry weight to decisions or just carry weights of their opinion? [1:16:13, 1:16:33]: It's input. So I'll kind of give you a a quick overview. So the the goal of of the tag is to engage citizens, it's kind of like a steering committee, engage citizens of Henry County and its municipalities in the county's transportation planning process, enabling them to give input, make recommendations on transportation. [1:16:33, 1:16:53]: Planning projects and assist in the implementation of transportation plans. So, yes, each of these individuals is a voice for that jurisdiction or commission that they're a part of. Okay, so that they're a voice for their opinion toward whatever decision that's going to be made. [1:16:53, 1:17:00]: Correct, correct. The only decisions that are gonna be made would be [1:17:00, 1:17:07]: Once the input is taken in from the committee, the plan will be drafted, which it was, and it was adopted by this council. [1:17:08, 1:17:25]: Well, I I'm fine with this person, but I have to agree with Mr. Alexander. I w I don't know this person and I'd I would like to have m met this person or something at some point in time, but I'm okay with the pointy. Um if um you [1:17:26, 1:17:27]: You know this person. [1:17:27, 1:17:37]: Yes. I have spoken to this person. If they think this is good representation for the city, I have to trust trust that you all know what you all are talking about. Absolutely. Okay. [1:17:37, 1:17:48]: I'll tell you what, how about we work with the city manager and and have uh have him come uh take a visit to the council and have a presentation as well. That way you get a chance everybody gets a chance to see him and talk with him. [1:17:49, 1:18:05]: Okay. So need a motion to accept Mr. Gonzalez, there's a motion there. Yes. I make a motion to accept with the conditions mentioned before that uh the council will receive regular briefings from the transportation representative that is appointed by the city. [1:18:05, 1:18:11]: Sir, second the motion. I'll second Miss Barber second that okay. No, I'll second that if you would add quarterly. [1:18:11, 1:18:13]: Uh quarterly please. [1:18:14, 1:18:19]: Okay, so Miles Anna to Miss Barber. Uh Madam Clerk, you have that correct? [1:18:21, 1:18:41]: Okay. All in favor, please indicate. I'm sorry, you have a question, sir? Well, I had my hand up for the C. I'm sorry, Mr. S. So I will make it now. And it just really just a comment. Uh I I do think it is important uh for this representative to have some type of uh coordination [1:18:41, 1:18:45]: with this council as far as um [1:18:45, 1:19:02]: the city of Stockbridge's interest in the overall county's uh transportation issue. And I know uh we hear this all the time from citizens. What is the county doing about transportation? So transportation issues [1:19:02, 1:19:09]: are really, really important, I think, throughout the county. So I think we do need to have some type of relationship [1:19:09, 1:19:16]: with this representative so this person would sort of be able to get um [1:19:16, 1:19:19]: a feel or a position [1:19:20, 1:19:23]: uh that that we in the city of Star Gridfield so I think it's a [1:19:23, 1:19:26]: It's a coordination, if you will. [1:19:26, 1:19:29]: But I just think there needs to be a relationship. [1:19:29, 1:19:49]: with this representative. So we're sorta speaking the same language. We're all on the same page as far as the concerns that we have and our citizens have here in the city of Stockbridge. And I do understand when we when these representatives all come together collectively, they are have the interest [1:19:49, 1:19:58]: of the county uh at heart. And I just wanted to just make that statement. So I am in favor of the city council having a relationship with this representative. [1:19:58, 1:20:08]: Thank you. Yes, Miss Barber. One quick question. Ms Carter, how long is this appointment for? It is a two year term. Okay. Thank you. [1:20:09, 1:20:13]: Okay, motion was made, been seconded, so m let's try to get on favor, please indicate. [1:20:13, 1:20:19]: Thank you very much. Unanimous decision. All right. Now we open up to public hearing and we have several public hearing um [1:20:20, 1:20:30]: Uh this evening. This is the first one. Item number eight. [1:20:30, 1:20:50]: OZM dash twenty twenty three dash zero one. Consideration of amendments to official zoning map and overlay district map in accordance with the resolution and referendum annexation method voted upon during november eighth, twenty twenty two election. There are approximately twenty two O two plus minus new parcels to be added to Stockbridge City boundaries. [1:20:50, 1:20:58]: As indicated within House Bill 612, including the including, but not limited to 23 subdivision communities. [1:20:59, 1:21:11]: and parcels primary consisting of a fifteen hundred and seven plus or minus single family residential, a hundred and five combined commercial and industrial. The zoning and overlay map district will be combined as a single document. [1:21:11, 1:21:31]: The previous zoning map and overlay district was adopted March 14th of 2022. I'm assuming, Ms. Carter, you're presenting this. Okay. Go right, please. Thank you, Mayor and Council. Yes, this item before you is um the zoning map that takes into account the newly annexed properties that came in under the [1:21:31, 1:21:51]: referendum of November the 8th. Those properties became effective January 1st, 2023, and we have the map before you. We've been working with our legal team on timing and making sure that we are making the transfer of the the use of [1:21:51, 1:22:11]: The property to be compatible with the city, um kind of a one-to-one. So if the property in Henry County prior was uh commercial or a C1, a light impact commercial district, it would transfer similarly to the C1 of the city of Stockbridge. Um [1:22:11, 1:22:31]: And it would required, of course, for the plan unit developments to have to come through, even though they'll be rezoned, they'd have to go through a rezoning process in order for their master development plan to be approved by the council. So as you recall, we we brought on, you know, quite a bit of [1:22:31, 1:22:51]: Parcels. And if you look in your your the staff report, here is the the map itself. What we've tried to do is combine the zoning and the overlay districts on a single map so that as we are building the interactive digital map, it makes it very, very simple. [1:22:51, 1:22:53]: Simple and easy for residents to [1:22:53, 1:23:13]: Find out what their zoning of the property is, and also to find out if they are located in an overlay district, which requires for them to do additional development standards or uses that are prohibited, et cetera. So that is the idea of combining the two maps. So in addition to combining them, [1:23:13, 1:23:24]: We're looking to have the new map updated to include these 2,200 additional parcels that we brought in under the city boundaries. [1:23:27, 1:23:32]: All right, so new map to include then uh source this is a complete document in this time. [1:23:32, 1:23:52]: Yes. Okay. All right. And what I've put in your staff reports, just for the public, is a list of all of the parcels. It gives you the council district and the acreage, use, what have you. What it was in Henry County, what it was is being proposed. Um so this um gives you an outline of [1:23:52, 1:24:00]: Of that. And there's about maybe 30 pages or so, but I won't bore you with that. Um, just wanted to make a notation of that for your records. [1:24:00, 1:24:20]: Okay. Council, any questions? Mr. Alzheimer's, go ahead please. Yes, sir. I thank you for the presentation. Uh and I just want to clarify for the public and everybody watching, pretty much these properties are being maintained at the zoning property, uh where they were. We just need to make sure that we transfer'em to something. [1:24:20, 1:24:40]: um compatible in the city, which is it'll be like one to one. There won't be any change in something from commercial to residential or anything like that. It's not a game. This is just to make sure that we clean up our map and that they're uh zoned appropriately under our conditions. But the one thing I just uh [1:24:40, 1:25:00]: So this is being written under the new ULDC that we adopted as a city, correct? That's correct. Okay. And the public should understand this council endeavored to write a completely new zoning package for the entire city so that we would have higher standards because there were too many. [1:25:00, 1:25:20]: Things that predated us, you know, that operated in the community. Those things consisted of tire shops, pawn shops, you know, odds and end businesses, thrift shops, you know, umpteen beauty supply stores, a different business. [1:25:20, 1:25:34]: That oversaturated the city. We took it upon ourselves, vape shops, that kind of thing, to put into code and to requirement to restrict a number of those businesses. That includes dollar stores, too, correct? [1:25:34, 1:25:54]: That's correct. Dollar stores have to be now five miles apart so that we don't have one on every single corner. Understanding we did that so that we could improve the quality of what the community looks like. Because who wants to have uh you know a dollar store on every corner, who wants to have a tire shop? [1:25:54, 1:26:14]: uh on every corner or a thrift store or consignment store. They needed to be spread out and there need to be limitations put on these businesses. As part of these this program is the overlay district was passed as well. So as you go down highway 138, all of us see what it looks like. All of us do. It got [1:26:14, 1:26:26]: that way that predated many of us. But what we wanted to do was to make sure anything new that came along Highway 138 or any of these major corridors met a certain standard. [1:26:26, 1:26:46]: Truck stops would not be allowed along these corridors. Industrial uses would not be allowed along these corridors and many undesirable business, adult locations, truck stops, um, you know, heavy industrial uses, used car dealerships, those types of things that were just allowed to come into the city. [1:26:46, 1:26:50]: Without a real plan for the first time in our history. [1:26:50, 1:27:10]: We passed a development plan for the entire city so that everybody would understand the direction that we're going in. So as we move forward with it, as you will see, out here in front of City Hall, we have 10-foot multi-use paths that are going in that are similar to what you would see to the Atlanta borderline. [1:27:10, 1:27:30]: The Atlanta Beltline has 14 foot, we have 10 feet. When you build a new development in the city, it requires along these major corridors that you build a 10-foot sidewalk so that I can have a bike rider, a cyclist, or somebody to be able to walk that particular area. Those are the type of new requirements that we put in. [1:27:29, 1:27:49]: Now, if you come to some some of these requirements will be stricter than what you used to see uh in the county, whereas these uh individual businesses that we talked about that have limitations because you know uh the county does not have some of these limitations. And we did that so that we could verify [1:27:49, 1:28:09]: Or we could uh make sure that we parse out and spread out these businesses. Uh we don't need a nail salon in every development. Or we need there's a destriction on how close they can be now. All of those things matter when you're trying to attract quality businesses to the area and that you're trying to attract restaurants and shops as we build uh [1:28:09, 1:28:29]: rebuild downtown. I wanted to make that point because we have citizens here who are concerned about, you know, the way that we're going. You know, before us, you know, the city has gone a long way from a f you know a few thousand citizens. Now we have nearly thirty-six thousand, right Mayor? That is the direction that we're going in. [1:28:29, 1:28:49]: And if everything goes as Henry County now is the fastest growing county in Metro Atlanta. And we got to understand we're going to grow. We want to grow wisely and we want to grow in the right direction. But at the same time, people are moving here for the same reason that we did. And we got to make sure that we do in quality. [1:28:49, 1:29:09]: Quality is from my standpoint is the number one thing that we're looking at. The rest of the board members can speak for themselves, but in essence, we want to build a quality community. And when someone brings a development to us, we want it to be like Roswell, we want it to be like Alpharetta. If you come to me or any of us and you say, Okay, let me bring you the C package. No. [1:29:09, 1:29:29]: No, we can't do that anymore. We did that in the past. And that's why Highway 138 looks like it looks. But anything new that comes on it is gonna be Class A, like that amphitheater that we built, or everything else that goes into place. I felt like that needed to be said so people can understand the direction that we're going in and the standard that we're set. [1:29:29, 1:29:32]: Thank you. [1:29:33, 1:29:53]: Okay, this is a public hearing. So I'm gonna open up the public hearing floor in reference to this topic. So on on that note, uh if there are any comments in the public uh for this and then um there'll be a limited amount of time uh per individual. I believe that time is three minutes unless the council awards them more [1:29:53, 1:30:00]: if there are any comments one way or the other. So on my left, which should be the right hand side of the council, any f comments four. [1:30:01, 1:30:03]: In the middle. Any comments four? [1:30:05, 1:30:07]: My right side in the comments four. [1:30:07, 1:30:08]: Okay. [1:30:08, 1:30:12]: Any comments uh guest with the proposal from my left side. [1:30:12, 1:30:13]: Any comments over here? [1:30:14, 1:30:15]: And it comes in the middle. [1:30:16, 1:30:17]: The comments are right. [1:30:18, 1:30:38]: Okay, so there are no comments one way uh or the other. So I'll close that piece of that particular issue in a public hearing. And so council, I need a motion to accept this particular item. Mayor. Sir. I'd like to make a motion to move forward with bringing these properties into the city under the appropriate zoning as recommended by city staff. Okay. [1:30:37, 1:30:39]: Mr. Alexander, is there a second? [1:30:42, 1:30:43]: Do I have a second? [1:30:49, 1:30:53]: Yes sir. Yes sir. Okay, mister Mr. Thomas second that [1:30:53, 1:31:13]: I have a Any further discussion? Yeah, I have one question. Go right ahead, please. Um and I guess I could talk to you, um, Breck and and the city manager um about this because when you bring businesses in and when you transfer almost putting in the same zonings. [1:31:13, 1:31:33]: We just want to make sure that there's no circumventing of what we pertain to our ULDC codes with with these business. That's that's my biggest concern. So I guess I'll get with you all and see how we're putting the buffers in that it won't be any circumventing uh because if we say we don't want vape shop [1:31:33, 1:31:50]: shops here or hookah shop or whatever, then this business that opens up under the different um zoning but allows it, that to me circumvents the process. And so I just wanted to find out and I'll get with you all on how do we um [1:31:51, 1:32:02]: How do we eliminate or prevent that circumventing of what we want in the city to happen because it comes under another zoning but allows something else? And that's that's been my concern. [1:32:02, 1:32:22]: Right. And I think that that isn't a concern anytime there's an annexation. Um, because the the it's not a necessarily an apples to apples transfer. There are uses within the city's requirements that are a little bit more restrictive than the counties. And for a majority of our districts, the city's requirements are more restrictive. [1:32:22, 1:32:42]: Restrictive than the counties. And then we handle any new business. We took in about 362 new businesses from the annexation. And any new business that comes in, they will be regulated under the new code. If there's a new owner, any of the triggers that we manage now, as far as any [1:32:42, 1:33:02]: anyone being grandfathered in. Um and as long as is is they meet those requirements, then they will be able to remain. However, if there are issues like, you know, illicit discharge and, you know, illegal dumping, things like that, we have to we will address on a code enforcement um capacity. Okay. That's good because I'll [1:33:02, 1:33:16]: I'm looking at when you bring a when you bring those businesses in, um, because you know, you have those grandfather calls that we still have in certain areas, how does that fit into businesses coming to the city? [1:33:16, 1:33:36]: So any crush time. Right. So any business who comes in their grandfathered in until if there's a if they have six months or more of not being in operation, then they lose their grandfather status. If you have a new owner, as long as it continues in operation, it's fine. If they d are not in business for six months or more, [1:33:36, 1:33:56]: Then they are not permitted to get that same license under that former grandfathered in status. They have to meet the current code. And that's how we over time try to, you know, weed out uses that aren't allowed currently per R code, versus telling them, hey, you've got six months to move or leave. [1:33:56, 1:34:00]: [5641.1, 5649.2]: the the um ability to develop their property and to operate under a business um until such time that changes. [1:34:09, 1:34:10]: Okay. [1:34:11, 1:34:13]: Any other questions from the council? [1:34:13, 1:34:21]: I do. I do. Ms. Carver. Um looking at the list of parcels, it has a column for district. [1:34:22, 1:34:25]: And it lists a district number twelve. [1:34:25, 1:34:38]: What district is that? Is that a state district? So there's a land there's a landlot and there's a district for the city overall that the tax assessors keeps track of. And then we separately have the council districts. [1:34:38, 1:34:40]: Gotcha. Thank you. Absolutely. [1:34:40, 1:34:42]: You know the questions counsel? [1:34:42, 1:34:45]: And if not any motion to Mail forward. Yes sir. Go ahead. [1:34:46, 1:34:47]: Uh Mrs. Carter, thank you. [1:34:49, 1:34:58]: Just based on the concern that I think Mr. Blount just spoke to and the comments from Councilman Alexander. [1:34:59, 1:35:03]: And and what I try to educate myself on is the [1:35:04, 1:35:05]: Comprehensive [1:35:06, 1:35:07]: Plan. [1:35:07, 1:35:09]: That includes [1:35:09, 1:35:29]: all of those entities where the city of Stockbridge as a municipality uh began to be uh proactive as far as land use plans, strategic plans. So how do we how do we grow? How do we build upon the great city of Starkbridge? [1:35:29, 1:35:31]: So I think when you [1:35:32, 1:35:51]: are able to look at all of these things, then I think we begin to see the picture of how we smart growth uh this area. And so I know when we alluded to the uh UDC, which is somewhat of a of a a of a guardrail, so can you just speak to [1:35:52, 1:35:54]: the collective or the comprehensive [1:35:55, 1:35:56]: Package. [1:35:56, 1:35:58]: Та а за муніципаліті [1:35:58, 1:36:02]: That we put into place to make sure that [1:36:02, 1:36:05]: We do the best we can do to make sure that [1:36:05, 1:36:25]: As our city grows, we have the guardrails in place to make sure that we're sort of being smart about how we allow things to come in. And I know we're here tonight. I know we have citizens here tonight. Probably want to get into uh some zoning issues. So all of these things. [1:36:25, 1:36:45]: Come into effect, you know, the zoning, the variance, all of these kind of requests. So I think we have to sort of have a better understanding of all of that so we can make a better decision on how we push forward uh in growing, you know, this great city. So can you just briefly just [1:36:45, 1:36:51]: sort of speak to that overall dynamic, if you will, of how we sort of [1:36:52, 1:36:57]: push forward and try to grow this great city. Sure, absolutely. Um, great point. So [1:36:58, 1:37:13]: I was here two weeks ago and we talked about our comprehensive plan update. Our comprehensive plan is our overarching twenty-five year um, you know, kind of bird's eye level of how we are to develop the city of Stockbridge. [1:37:13, 1:37:16]: The zoning code, the zoning map. [1:37:16, 1:37:19]: All of those are tools to implement. [1:37:20, 1:37:23]: Our future land use plan and our comprehensive plan. [1:37:23, 1:37:32]: So one of the great things about this process is as we are, you know, for the council to approve the zoning map and overlay district map tonight. [1:37:33, 1:37:53]: We also go back and we're gonna look at our comprehensive plan um document, which is a map, which has all these different elements, what we look at for land use, which includes zoning, we look at housing, we look at economic development, natural resources, and there are several others, transportation. And what we do is we look at what are our [1:37:53, 1:38:03]: are s are we look at a SWOT analysis. We look at the strengths, we look at the weaknesses, and we look at our opportunities and threats to make sure that we are addressing [1:38:03, 1:38:23]: What we want development to be based on where we are today? How are we progressing? What are the trends? Do we want to see more things? Do we want making sure we have those 10-foot-wide trails on all those major roads? Do we want to see, you know, a water feature, you know, throughout the city? What have you? There are lots of different things that we'll address. [1:38:23, 1:38:24]: Dress. [1:38:25, 1:38:39]: But these this is a tool in order to implement that comprehensive overarching plan. And we're going through that update process over the next several months and we'll bring that back to you guys in October. So it all ties in together. [1:38:40, 1:38:42]: Thank you, Maryland. Okay, absolutely. All right. [1:38:43, 1:38:47]: Any other questions? If if not, I need a motion to real quick. Yes, sir. [1:38:48, 1:38:53]: Um, I don't wanna mess with anybody's intelligence here and so when because when I came on this council [1:38:54, 1:39:14]: I I wasn't familiar with a lot of acronyms. So I would hope that when we say acronyms we just say what it is for the sake of the when we say UDC is that means unified development codes meaning to hold so if we just you know, I I I didn't know what ac these acronyms were. So I just wanna make sure they they know when we say UDC and when we say certain things that we [1:39:14, 1:39:27]: kind of let them know what that is. Absolutely. And um Councilman Alexander noted that earlier. So I'm sorry I did just throw the acronym out. But um yes, it is the unified development code that is our UDC, which helps us govern [1:39:28, 1:39:40]: you know, development standards, how things need to be built, what needs to be where, how many amenities you should have, street um infrastructure, road infrastructure, sidewalks and the like. [1:39:40, 1:39:41]: Thank you. [1:39:41, 1:39:51]: All right, now uh I would imagine that's probably all the questions from the council. So I need a motion, uh we all need a motion. I need a motion to accept it. Second, okay. [1:39:52, 1:39:52]: Thank you. [1:39:53, 1:39:55]: So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:39:55, 1:39:59]: Announced decisions. All right, thank you very much. Thank you. For all. All right. [1:40:01, 1:40:21]: A lot of conversation. Okay, item number nine. Comprehensive plan amendment KCP 2022-06. Consideration of a comprehensive plan amendment request to assign the future land use designating the property located at 576 Davis Road, parcel S05. [1:40:21, 1:40:41]: Five-01002000 to high density residential to allow for construction of a town home development. Applicant Forrester Real Estate Group, USA Incorporated Agent Alex Brock of Smith, Gramble and Russell LLP. Properties located at Landlot 91. [1:40:40, 1:40:48]: or District 12. It contains 27.635 acres. Miss Reca, please. [1:40:48, 1:40:56]: I'm sorry. Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. Before he begins, may I ask that Miss Carter, this um [1:40:58, 1:41:00]: The overlay district map. [1:41:00, 1:41:04]: When I asked about the district numbers that's on this table here. [1:41:05, 1:41:06]: It references district twelve. [1:41:07, 1:41:08]: Can you please? [1:41:09, 1:41:10]: Add another column. [1:41:10, 1:41:12]: I am most interested in. [1:41:12, 1:41:21]: City Council districts, and I need to see for each of these parcels how many of these are specifically in each of the council districts. [1:41:22, 1:41:23]: For this [1:41:23, 1:41:25]: Thank you for this item. [1:41:25, 1:41:27]: For this public hearing. [1:41:27, 1:41:31]: Um for the compli comprehensive plan amendment case. [1:41:31, 1:41:32]: You're still referencing [1:41:33, 1:41:34]: District twelve. [1:41:35, 1:41:36]: For the record. [1:41:36, 1:41:37]: Madam Clerk. [1:41:38, 1:41:40]: In reference to city council district. [1:41:40, 1:41:42]: It is in city council district. [1:41:43, 1:41:43]: four. [1:41:44, 1:41:47]: I want that to be clear and on record. [1:41:48, 1:42:03]: If I if I may, Council Mayor Pro Tem. So there are two districts, two types of districts. There is the landlot and district for overall for the county. So this, this is in landlord. [1:42:05, 1:42:13]: This is Land Lot 91, District 12. However, the council district is specified specifically as district four. [1:42:14, 1:42:33]: And that is what should be referenced on our city council agenda meeting. Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, I can make sure that that's clarified if there are any any uh in all other documents going forward. You can still reference the tax assessors, district numbers. We will we'll add council district going forward. I appreciate it. Thank you. [1:42:34, 1:42:54]: I assume that that request from Miss Barber, that the rest of council is good with that particular. That is my it is my district. And is what I'd like to see be transparent to the people in the community so that they are not confused about what this is and what area it represents. That's all. [1:42:53, 1:43:10]: Stand by the re if you're asking for that, that means that would mean I would think that that would be the same thing for all the other council districts. That's why I'm asking that. Okay? I want to make sure that the rest of the council districts uh representatives will want the same thing. Okay. That's what I want to try to figure out. Okay. [1:43:10, 1:43:30]: I would add that this is not unusual. It is what they do at every county meeting. This is a part of the legal description for the property. Understand. You have a lot and you have a district when you l as it's part of the legal description. So adding this particular um district would be appropriate, certainly. Okay. [1:43:30, 1:43:50]: uh for the county to un for the city to citizens to understand. But understand this is a pro if you go to any of the Henry County zonings, they have they do have what you suggested. They have the district number on there and they do have uh the the um the county tax assessors district. It'll say district twelve, district seven, whatever it may be. [1:43:49, 1:44:09]: And it does follow along those columns, but it is indicated which commissioner it's referenced to. Okay, thank you, Council. I just want to make sure that that the rest of the council is well aware and would want the same type of requirement. What I thought to forgot to mention earlier, uh as I read out the item nine right below it says to be presented by the county development staff, the planning commission approved uh this request. [1:44:09, 1:44:18]: With amended conditions at the April 27, 2023 meeting. Okay, please go ahead. All right. Thank you, Mayor. [1:44:22, 1:44:42]: I'll I'll begin with the um with the applicant case facts. The applicant is Forrester Real Estate Group. The applicant's request, once again, repeating what the mayor said, assign the future land use designation of property to high density residential to allow for the development of a townhouse community with 170 units. The number of proposed units per acre would be [1:44:42, 1:45:02]: 6.15. The address of the property is 576 Davis Road and it's located in Council District 4. The number of acres the subject property represents is 27.635 acres. The property characteristics, property has three single-family residences and a detached garage. [1:45:02, 1:45:14]: In addition, it is a long wooded and narrow lot that slopes downwards to the north where the stream and buffer are located. The current city land use designation is Low Density Residential. [1:45:18, 1:45:36]: The future land use designation maps designate the subject property as low density residential. However, the current future land use is incompatible with the requested rezoning to MFR. Therefore, the applicant is seeking a comprehensive plan amendment to assign the future land use designation to high density residential. [1:45:41, 1:45:47]: On the screen now is the future land use map of the area surrounding five seventy six Davis Road. [1:45:50, 1:46:10]: The surrounding land use densities or the property, the density of the properties that surround the subject property. To the north, you got single family detached homes located along Valley Hill Road. And the land use designation of that property is low density residential. To the south, [1:46:10, 1:46:21]: You got Stockbridge Estates Mobile Home Park, and it is medium density residential. To the east, you have single-family detached homes along Davis Road, Century Oaks. [1:46:22, 1:46:36]: And the density of of th of that property is medium density residential. And to the west you got the Pine Hills Estates Mobile Home Park, Wildwood Estates Subdivision, and the density of that is low density and medium density residential. [1:46:43, 1:47:03]: Can I ask you a question? I didn't think we have medium density in our is that in the Henry County zone and planned is in our zone in plant. I thought we s kind of skipped from one to the other one and that was our density rates do uh it's kind of skewed a little bit. Uh currently uh the low density is one point five to two units per acre. The medium density is two to three point six. [1:47:03, 1:47:23]: And then we skip from three point six to five point nine, and we skip that and we go to high density, which is six sixteen units. My question is, when you say medium density, what is what number is that? Medium density is is two for these properties for those two mobile home parts. Uh the between two to three point six units per acre. [1:47:23, 1:47:25]: Okay. Yes. [1:47:26, 1:47:29]: Oh yeah, please please continue. [1:47:30, 1:47:50]: Okay, here's another um chart indicating the densities of of the surrounding properties. Pine Hills Estate Mobile Home Park. They have 91 units and their density is 2.5 units per acre. You got Century Oaks Duplex Subdivision. They have 29 units and their density rate is 0.88 units per acre. You got metal. [1:47:50, 1:48:05]: Ridge, they have 70 units and their density rate is 1.3 units per acre. You got Stockbridge, the States Mobile Home Park, they have 156 units, and their density rate is 4 units per acre, and that's still a medium. [1:48:05, 1:48:25]: And you have Wildwood Estate Subdivision, they have 233 units with a density rate of 3.22 units per acre, and that is considered a medium. You have Springwood Valley, they have 22 units at a density rate of 0.8835 units per acre. And you have Big Oak Villas. [1:48:25, 1:48:31]: They have 34 units on nine with a density rate of nine units per acre. [1:48:31, 1:48:33]: And the proposed Davis Home [1:48:34, 1:48:41]: Project has a hund has a proposed number of 170 units with a density rate of six units per acre, a little over six units per acre. [1:48:43, 1:48:46]: Here is the uh on the screen now we have a [1:48:48, 1:48:53]: A screenshot of the uh concept plan or the site plan, how it's laid out. [1:48:59, 1:49:01]: Uh staff analysis. [1:49:02, 1:49:22]: The the requested well consistent consistency with the comprehensive plan. The requested comp plan amendment of the subject property from low density to high density is necessary because the current land use does not allow the development of town homes. Furthermore, the proposed densities would not be compatible with the required density for the current land use. [1:49:22, 1:49:42]: Designation. Relation to the zoning of the property, the property requested zoning district is not compatible with the list of permitted zoning districts that are found in the comprehensive plan. To allow for the proposed zoning, the applicant has request requested that the property be rezoned to MFR to the MFR district to allow the townhomes to be built. [1:49:42, 1:50:02]: The rezoning will be heard concurrently with this case. After I finish this case right here, the rezoning is coming up next. The suitability of the site's location. The proposed high-density land use designation will be compatible with the high-density land use designation of big oaks villas located to the east. Furthermore, [1:50:01, 1:50:21]: Page 45 of the Stockbridge Comprehensive Plan provides a list of permitted uses that are compatible with the land use designation, which includes MFR multifamily residential, which the applicant is seeking. Maintaining the current land use designation. Maintaining the current land use designation would be allowable for the applicant to develop. [1:50:21, 1:50:27]: The would not be allowable for the applicant to develop the townhomes due to the proximity from an existing [1:50:29, 1:50:49]: Town home community located within the area. Furthermore, it is unlikely the subject property will be developed with the type of uses that are permitted by the existing low density residential land use. Um the property would never be developed as a commercial uh use because of the frontage and where it's located, and it's not located on the [1:50:49, 1:51:05]: major therapy and also it would not be uh feasible for the property for the subject property to be developed as a single family residential detached because you couldn't get enough units on the property for it to be economically viable. So as a result [1:51:05, 1:51:25]: Staff recommends approval of the requested change in the property's future land use designation from low density residential to high density residential. And one last note, we're currently in the process of updating the comprehensive plan and and due to the low ranges of our density rates. [1:51:25, 1:51:45]: Like low density is 1.2 to 2 units per acre, medium is 2 to 3.6 units per acre, and uh high density is 6 to 16 units per acre. Uh we feel like these density ranges are not compatible with what the city of Stockbridge is transforming into. It's becoming more of an urbanization. [1:51:44, 1:52:04]: area. So we feel that these current density rates are for more of a suburban type community. So there's chances are once we go to a ther go through a thorough analysis of the current ranges and uh while we're undergoing the process of uh updating the um the comp plan. [1:52:04, 1:52:08]: That this area could be slated to be medium density in the future. [1:52:10, 1:52:11]: Thank you. Questions, Council? [1:52:13, 1:52:14]: Yeah, cool so. [1:52:15, 1:52:21]: Why Miss Barber? As the district representative of City Council District Four. [1:52:22, 1:52:24]: I have some concerns. [1:52:24, 1:52:26]: A lot of concern concerns actually. [1:52:26, 1:52:27]: You just spoke of wine. [1:52:28, 1:52:31]: That there's gonna be updates to our comprehensive plan. [1:52:33, 1:52:35]: I have spoken with the developer on [1:52:35, 1:52:36]: A few occasions. [1:52:37, 1:52:39]: Recently I asked that they delayed. [1:52:40, 1:52:41]: [6761.5, 6762.7]: [1:52:42, 1:52:43]: of their proposal. [1:52:44, 1:52:49]: Now that I know that we're gonna be updating the comprehensive plan soon. [1:52:49, 1:52:52]: I suggest that they bring it back at a later time. [1:52:52, 1:52:58]: Uh that could be s six to seven or eight months away, council member. I'm sorry. [1:52:58, 1:53:00]: That could be six to eight months away. [1:53:00, 1:53:02]: Okay. [1:53:02, 1:53:04]: I don't object to that. [1:53:04, 1:53:04]: Okay. [1:53:05, 1:53:07]: Um that's all. [1:53:08, 1:53:10]: Mr. Point. [1:53:10, 1:53:30]: Yeah, let me let me kind of understand where we're going to. And I need everybody to understand something. This is not the end of the road, and these are tough decisions that we face on an ongoing basis. Please understand, as I said, Henry County is one of the fastest growing counties in Metro Atlanta. And trust me. [1:53:30, 1:53:41]: This is what happens and what folks don't understand about the zoning process. If we say no tonight and they take it to court and they sue and they win, they could bill whatever they want. [1:53:42, 1:54:02]: This is the they they could build whatever they want. If they take it to court and the judge decides, the judge makes the decided. This opportunity, delaying it, whatever we do, gives us an opportunity to have input to bring down the number of units, which the number of units have been brought down from 250 to [1:54:02, 1:54:15]: I think what 175? 170. 170. So we were by working with Count Mempro Tim Barber in the city, the number of residential units have been brought down from two fifty to one seventy. But [1:54:16, 1:54:18]: Say we turned it down tonight. [1:54:18, 1:54:38]: And the developer and the property owner in Georgia has all the rights they do. And that's what tires our hand most of the time, because the property rights says the property owner has a right to sell the property for the highest and best use. And what that does to us is it puts us in a position where we got big old villas down the street. [1:54:38, 1:54:58]: Street that has nine units per acre, someone in the city has already set the precedent that this is allowable in that area already. So what generally happens to us, we got a mobile home park next door that has four or five, which is in that same range. But what generally happens to us is we're in a position, the staff has made a [1:54:58, 1:55:18]: A recommendation of approval based on what the future land use map says to us. But in order to allow this council to work on the project and to continue to work on District 4 and to do what's necessary or to have the council member entertain that. And I would have uh the the legal to weigh on this. [1:55:18, 1:55:38]: As well, if Quentin is in here as well. The county is under these same pressures. That's why you keep seeing over and over again where these multifamily developments keep coming up to the county. And the county is approving them. Why do they keep proving them? Because in the end, all the laws state, again, most of the laws are only [1:55:38, 1:55:53]: on the side of the property owners. What has happened to us over and over again is property l large property owners in the area say, I'm moving, I'm ready to cash in with rates being so high, they can make a fortune. They sell to the developer, [1:55:53, 1:56:03]: then that then we get to a rezoning. We just haven't had many of these. McDonough's had a gazillion. The county has had so many more to go along with it. [1:56:03, 1:56:09]: And you listen to their particular meetings and you tune into their meetings and they share the same concerns with us. [1:56:09, 1:56:29]: Because the developers come in when you s when you tell them no, they hand you the sheet that says these are our our rights, and they say, you know what, we reserve the right to sue to reverse that decision. So no matter what we do tonight, that decision can be overturned by a court of law. And understand that. So in our position, uh in the [1:56:29, 1:56:49]: county's position that they have taken going through this is to try to work with it if we can. If it's just impossible, there's nothing that we can do to to resolve it. The residents are 100% against it and there's nothing that we can do to try to work it out between both parties. Sometimes we do reserve the right to do that, but understanding that the [1:56:49, 1:56:51]: The next this is not the end of the road. [1:56:52, 1:56:58]: And if it's not the end of the road, and I think you'll say that too, Mr. Anderson, is that this is not end of the road, is it? [1:56:58, 1:57:00]: No, sir, it's not. [1:57:00, 1:57:20]: Okay, and in these cases do go to a judge and when they go to a judge, the judge makes the decision, correct? He says, Well, this is what uh and the judge doesn't say, Well, you could have this many units per acre or whatever, they just say they have a right to sell this property and the and for the rezoning, correct? Yes, sir. [1:57:20, 1:57:25]: And staff has concluded that that this is the highest and best use of that particular land. [1:57:25, 1:57:37]: Okay, again, with no decision has been made by us, we're gonna certainly sit here and listen to every resident to say what you gotta understand. And we hear a lot of this and I'm gonna continue on, is that [1:57:37, 1:57:50]: Every we hear it every zoning here and they hear it at the county too. The state legislature is where we need to address a lot of these issues at. We hear people come in and they say traffic, traffic, traffic. [1:57:50, 1:57:52]: Under state law. [1:57:52, 1:57:58]: We cannot legally deny a development based on traffic. It might seem silly to you. [1:57:59, 1:58:19]: But if we did, that's a ground for reversal of the decision, because we said traffic. We hear it over and over again. Well the schools are overcrowded. We're bringing in all these developments. If you deny a development based on schools, they sue. That's ground for a term because the courts have said in Georgia, because the laws state what they state. [1:58:18, 1:58:24]: is that if you deny it based on traffic, the traffic is our responsibility. [1:58:25, 1:58:45]: Ours to determine our job is to widen the roads and to do what's necessary. The schools are the responsibility of the school board, which has nearly a billion dollar budget if you count T splot E splot and what they doing. So again and again that has come back to court and this has been what the the judgment is. [1:58:45, 1:59:05]: And I'm not saying what decision we're gonna make up here, but you gotta understand this is not the end of the road. This is part of the process which we listen to, which each resident has to say, and then we have to make a decision based on what's best for the community and what's legally sound in the decision. [1:59:05, 1:59:25]: That needs to be made. But trust and believe I'm telling you, this is not the end of the road. We're do going through the process and whatever we do, decision will be made to move forward or deny. We we this is not the end of the road. Thank you. No problem. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Um one of the things that for me [1:59:25, 1:59:28]: As a council member elected by the citizens of Stockbridge. [1:59:29, 1:59:32]: Um, I don't have any control of the courts. [1:59:33, 1:59:53]: But now that we go on to districts, one of the things we have to do is look at how we can affect our districts. Uh but that's by listening to the citizens, that's by um talking to the developers, that's by looking in in the area what's best benefits your district and what doesn't. Um I can't I I don't make decisions up here pertaining to what the court may. [1:59:52, 2:00:01]: Or may not say, because we weren't we weren't elected as citizens to determine what we say or do pertain to what a court may say or do. [2:00:01, 2:00:07]: Um one of the things that um I have to respect out of either one of my colleagues districts [2:00:07, 2:00:11]: If they have concerns, then we have to respect those concerns for their districts. [2:00:11, 2:00:16]: And that's where I am. I'm uh so if there's a if there's more um [2:00:16, 2:00:30]: behind the scenes negotiation or talking pertaining to that district uh with the developer and as you said that that uh the comprehensive plan could uh in the future be uh brought in and and can [2:00:30, 2:00:44]: be low low density, uh media you know uh uh uh medium density, um th then so be it. But one of the things I have to do, because I would not want one council member coming to my district and telling me [2:00:45, 2:01:03]: how to develop my district when it comes to residential or commercial and what's needed and what's not needed when the citizens in my district are the ones that put me in office. So one of the things I have to do is listen to my colleagues and their concerns about their districts. And that's why I lay my decision. [2:01:04, 2:01:07]: Any other comments? Yes. Go right, please. [2:01:09, 2:01:29]: I said so there's no words being twisted. I did never say that you should ignore the district council member. Count Mayor Pro Tem Barber is the district person. I have said on Zooms that we've talked and what have you that listen, this is her district. She'll be one making the final decision. And in essence, certain [2:01:29, 2:01:49]: Certainly, no decision will ever be made based on what the courts do. I'm just trying to inform the citizens of the process and to understand. No matter what we do tonight, it may not be the end of the road. So, understanding that particular process, make sure you state when you come up here again, you gotta understand the rules. [2:01:49, 2:02:09]: rules and the rules say we can't deny based on schools or traffic. But we hear that a lot. So understanding that is very key to uh you know when you're talking, you're understanding that. Because we hear that a lot. But understanding the rules, sometimes the rules are not explained to folks and they don't really understand the rules or what determines [2:02:09, 2:02:29]: Determines what goes on. Surely we live in the community, we certainly think about schools and we do everything that we can. As a matter of fact, we secured seven hundred fifty million dollars countywide to widen almost every major road in Henry County to deal with that. And the school board has nearly a billion dollar budget to kind of deal with the schools. So that's [2:02:29, 2:02:40]: their responsibility, but certainly we want to hear you out and understand what your concerns are and defer to the district uh council member as I would expect them to defer to me as well. Thanks. [2:02:41, 2:02:44]: Um Ms. One. Yeah, go ahead, please. [2:02:44, 2:03:04]: Um Mr. Alexander, one of the things I I'm I'm not insinuating what you say and what you believe. Um that's what you believe. And I'm not um com being combative or anything but pertaining to what you believe, but and I agree with you, we cannot deny development because of schools and roads. Um [2:03:04, 2:03:16]: Uh, in my opinion, uh when you talk about a lot of high a lot of high density development versus uh infrastructure plan not coming to fruition first, you're gonna have problems. That's a that's a given. [2:03:17, 2:03:21]: And so when it comes to but when it comes to any developer [2:03:21, 2:03:27]: that wants to bring any type of development in your community, whether it's high density, medium density or low density. [2:03:28, 2:03:48]: Those negotiation, those uh and and obviously something's been had. Uh that they're they're talking now. So I have to let that council person in that dist district take the league. And that's that's that's what I'm saying. I'm not it's no beliterate anybody thought process or how we should go about doing anything. I'm just talking about just [2:03:48, 2:03:49]: John Blount. [2:03:50, 2:03:59]: All right, thank you. How about Forrester and or Alex Brock of uh did uh do you all wanna come forward and have any comments? Come on forward, sir, and if you have any comments to the council at all. [2:04:03, 2:04:23]: And I'm not sure, so to give your name because I'm not sure who exactly who you are, because I didn't meet you earlier. Yes, good evening. My name's Alex Brock with Smith Gambrell Russell. I'm here on behalf of the applicant uh Four Star Real Estate Group. Uh joining me tonight, I have Jack Burke and Ren uh Giazzoni with Fourstar. Um before I start my presentation, I do have one handout I'd like to uh give a comment. [2:04:23, 2:04:26]: Okay, sure. Uh [2:04:38, 2:04:55]: And if I could, I'd like to use staff slides. I have Okay, sure. Did the other gentleman want to join you at the mic? Uh did you want to come up, sir, at all? Any you th two gentlemen? Or are you just comfortable right where you are? Okay. If there's technical questions, I may ask Mr. Burke and Mr. Gisani to step up. Okay, thank you. [2:04:56, 2:05:15]: Um we are here tonight for three applications, comprehensive plan and rezoning and a variance. Uh it's my understanding we are going to take those one at a time. Uh so I'll start with the comprehensive plan. Um before we get into what we are proposing, I just wanted to give a brief overview of uh [2:05:15, 2:05:35]: The of how we've gotten here tonight, because this has been a lengthy journey for us. Uh, we initially started conversations with the city back last August, last July, last August, before we submitted anything for rezoning. Uh at that time, we initially proposed 252 townhome units uh on the property. That would have been a density of 9.11 units per [2:05:35, 2:05:55]: Per acre. By the time we submitted for rezoning in October, we had lowered that to 235 units, which would have been a density of 8.5 units per acre. Then with discussions with planning staff and other city officials, we went back and revisited the design to lower that even further. [2:05:55, 2:06:10]: Further, and we've dropped it down to the current plan that's before tonight of 170 units, uh, which is approxim uh which is a density of six point one eight units per acre. Uh this is only two-thirds of what we initially proposed. Uh [2:06:11, 2:06:31]: In uh overall reduction of eighty-two units. Uh we've also made a number of other changes to the plan through our conversations with the city, uh including improvements to the amenity package. We initially were proposing just a open pavilion. Uh we've converted that to a a formal clubhouse. Uh we are now including ten-foot sidewalks along Davis Street. [2:06:31, 2:06:51]: Drive. It should be noted that there are existing sidewalks on the southern right-of-way of Davis Drive, but we are proposing the full 10-foot sidewalks along the northern portion of the front edge of our property. We've also increased guest parking throughout, which I'll get into a little bit later. And a few other few other items. [2:06:51, 2:07:11]: Items which I'll get through through the course of my presentation. But to go to the comp plan request directly, we have requested a rezoning for multifamily residential in a density of 6.18 units per acre. The current land use is low density residential, which does not allow townhouse. [2:07:11, 2:07:14]: home development nor the six point one eight units per acre. [2:07:15, 2:07:35]: As uh Mr. Anderson pointed out earlier, there's a little bit of a quirk in the city's current comprehensive plan. The medium density uh land use allows for a density of two to three point six units per acre, and then there's a gap until you get to six units per acre. Uh, high density is six to sixteen units per acre. Uh so we [2:07:35, 2:07:41]: We are going with a high density residential'cause we are right at uh six point a little over six units per acre. [2:07:41, 2:08:01]: Uh and I also like to note that we are not trying to max out the density on the property. Uh we have lowered it to 6.18 units per acre, which is the low end of the high density residential. Uh so we are not trying to squeeze as many units as we can uh onto the development. And in fact, we are preserving a large amount of open space uh throughout the development. [2:08:02, 2:08:03]: Uh [2:08:05, 2:08:25]: As uh staff had mentioned earlier in their presentation, uh we are surrounded primarily by medium density residential, uh, but there are other high-density residential land uses, uh, primarily the Big Oak Villa Townhomes, which is 0.42 miles uh to the east of our property along Davis Road. Uh that is the property that's currently [2:08:25, 2:08:32]: At a density of around nine units per acre and has a uh land use designation of high density residential. [2:08:34, 2:08:39]: We fit our request fits a number of goals of the city's current comprehensive plan. Uh [2:08:41, 2:09:00]: One, to provide a variety of housing choices to suit the changing needs and lifestyle of city residents. That's on page 38 of the comp plan. To provide a mixture of housing options to attract young professionals, singles, and small families. To preserve and enhance older existing neighborhoods by promoting infill development to revitalize established neighborhoods. [2:09:01, 2:09:21]: In the comprehensive plan specifically notes the lack of townhomes and the need to provide housing options. Uh on page 18 of the comprehensive plan says the dominant housing option is likely to remain single family development. However, to attract certain segments of the population, like young adults and millennials, other housing options should be available. Currently, there's a lack of townhouse, another multifamily residential house. [2:09:21, 2:09:21]: Housing. [2:09:22, 2:09:39]: Uh it's unlikely that the property will be redeveloped uh under its current land or low density residential land use designation. Uh it's not suitable for uh single family or the other type of uh uh development that the city is seeking with its comprehensive plan. [2:09:42, 2:09:49]: So to go into a little bit of the development itself, and I want to be cognizant of my time so I don't run over, but um [2:09:51, 2:10:11]: There's a number of benefits that we've looked at with this plan. One is affordability. These units will be priced in the high 200 to 300 range. These are for sale units. So we're not seeking any tax credits for uh technical affordable housing. Uh so we're not bound by HUD restrictions uh for that, but we are making these affordable for the market. [2:10:12, 2:10:26]: Uh the medium home price of new sales in Henry County Stockbridge for the last twelve months uh ranged in the high three hundred thousands. Uh so our price range of high two hundred to to low three hundreds is well below that uh uh medium home sale price for the area. [2:10:27, 2:10:43]: And what we are proposing is within the range of many younger home buyers and empty nesters, which is our market for the townhomes. Um and it's also the market that the comprehensive plan specifically notes uh that the city of Stockbridge is trying to attract, uh the younger professionals. [2:10:45, 2:11:05]: Uh parking. Uh one issue with our initial conversations with the city was parking throughout the property. We initially only had a few guest parking spaces. Uh we did meet the UDC's requirement for parking. However, we went back and took a second look at guest parking throughout the property. Uh we'll provide a total number [2:11:05, 2:11:25]: of or there's a mix of one and two uh car garages uh so we can provide a variety of housing product uh throughout the development to attract a range of buyers. Uh we will provide approximately 281 spaces, uh garage spaces, uh an additional 281 driveway spaces, and then 92 surface parking spaces, which [2:11:25, 2:11:45]: Which is a significant number of uh guest surface spaces for this type of development, uh, for a total of six hundred and fifty-four spaces throughout the uh the development. Uh to put that in context, the yak the Stockbridge UDC only requires a minimum of two point two five units, or excuse me, two point two five spaces per unit. Uh we are at three point eight. [2:11:45, 2:12:05]: Uh four spaces per unit. So quite a quite a large number of additional parking uh for guests uh in the uh in the facility. And and the reason for this is to try to curtail on-street parking, uh, which can also be controlled through the HOA. Yeah, I record uh open space, uh as I noted. [2:12:05, 2:12:25]: Earlier, we are preserving uh or providing a large amount of open space. Approximately 7.9 acres of the overall 27 acres is uh will be open space. A large portion of that is here to the northern uh part of the property. We are providing nature trails uh through this area, uh, as well as preserving a large [2:12:25, 2:12:29]: [7950.7, 7961.2]: Uh in addition, we are providing playground, dog park, a walking trail, well walking trail I mentioned, as well as around 5,600 uh square feet of uh landscape public space. [2:12:42, 2:12:44]: Uh traffic improvements uh [2:12:45, 2:12:53]: Some of the comments that came up at the Planning Commission and some of the uh comments that we've heard from the community are were in regards to traffic. [2:12:53, 2:13:11]: Four star has performed and provided a traffic study for this development. Uh that traffic study looked at the current impacts to traffic without the project and then looked at impacts to the adjacent roadways and intersections after the future build, which means after this project is built. [2:13:12, 2:13:13]: And determine that there will be no [2:13:14, 2:13:26]: drop in a level of service to the surrounding uh intersections or roadways. And what that means, a level of service is a measurement, uh engineering measurement of how well these intersections perform. Um [2:13:27, 2:13:47]: So even with the addition of our uh project, we are not looking at more cars backing up the at the adjacent intersections. Uh in addition, the traffic study also took into account the Georgia DOTU's plan widening for Highway 138 and 42. Uh Davis Road empties onto Highway 42. It's currently a [2:13:47, 2:14:07]: A an odd intersection, to say the the least. The DOT's plans are to make that into a right-only, so it will restrict left turns out from Davis Road, which should help improve uh vehicular conflicts at that intersection. [2:14:07, 2:14:27]: Also, our proposed development's construction timeline aligns with the DOT's improvements as well. The DOT should start construction or is planned to start construction in 2024. We should have our first lots ready to uh for vertical construction uh in the summer of 2025, and then uh the lots closing around. [2:14:27, 2:14:36]: Around the summer of 2027. So the improvements to highway 42 and 138 should be online by the time our units are sold. [2:14:38, 2:14:47]: Uh in addition, as I mentioned earlier, we're providing 10-foot sidewalk along the frontage, uh which allows or facilitates pedestrian movement. Uh [2:14:48, 2:15:08]: In front of our property along Davis Road, we are also installing a left turn lane, a dedicated left turn lane, as well as a diesel lane. Uh what that does not only improves movement into uh our development, but also allows through traffic uh to proceed without having to stop and wait and back up traffic along Davis Road uh for those. [2:15:08, 2:15:10]: [8111.4, 8115.0]: Uh one other concern that was mentioned by uh [2:15:15, 2:15:33]: Both the community and Mayor Pro Tem Barber was the intersection at Davis and Shields Road. We do not have control over that intersection. That's a system improvement. Uh that is something that would fall upon the city or Henry County DOT uh to improve. Uh there is a concern about how that aligns. Um [2:15:35, 2:15:51]: Century Oak Court, which is the uh duplex development to the east of our uh uh property, does not align with Shields Road, so it it results in an awkward four-way stop configuration. However, our traffic study actually looked at this intersection. Um [2:15:53, 2:16:13]: Only thirty percent of the traffic is flowing toward eastward, uh towards that intersection. The r vast majority is seventy percent is going towards highway forty two. So we should have little impact. Stand by council, are you willing to give uh Alex uh Mr. Brock their additional time to finish this presentation? Five more minutes, please. Well, we'll give'em additional time. You you the rest of the council's good with that as well? Five. [2:16:13, 2:16:27]: We'll see. We'll give right now we'll give them extra time. Sir, continue please. Okay. I appreciate that. I'm trying to cover a lot of the points that could be made in the other applications as well, but I figured first application I'm trying to hit some of these. Um [2:16:28, 2:16:48]: And I won't take the whole five minutes, but to move next to public support uh or public outreach. Uh we've had three separate mailings as required by the cities UDC. Uh well, Cities UDC only requires us to sell out one notification to the uh adjacent property owners. Uh since this has been deferred several times, we ended up having [2:16:48, 2:17:08]: having s having to send uh three separate notifications. Uh the first one on January 6th, another one on February 28th, and then uh the last one on April 10th. The only response that we received was from the adjacent owner of the uh Pine Hills Estates Mobile Home Park, uh and they were in support, and that is the letter I handed out earlier tonight. [2:17:08, 2:17:08]: Um [2:17:10, 2:17:30]: At the planning commission, uh several property owners uh showed up. Um one at the adjacent five sixty six Davis Road and then the other property owner at the corner of Shields and Davis uh that had some concerns at the urging of that body. We set up a community meeting, uh which I'd like to point out is not required by the UDC. [2:17:30, 2:17:50]: We did that as a proactive measure to meet with the community. That was held last Wednesday on May 3rd. The residents again immediately adjacent to our property were notified. We hand delivered those notifications to the uh set those at the at the property. [2:17:49, 2:18:03]: The the weekend before the meeting, uh, we had approximately eight members of the community show up to that meeting. Uh all had similar concerns regarding traffic, uh impacts to wildlife during construction. Uh a lot of typical um [2:18:05, 2:18:25]: I guess concerns that deal generally with development uh in any sort of growth uh that a community experiences. In our studies, particularly our traffic study and our site design, we've tried to address all the issues that we can control, uh monitoring traffic, how our imp how our development will impact this routing roadways, and how we can [2:18:25, 2:18:37]: uh uh fit within the community. Uh some of the issues again are system improvements we we have no control over. Uh again, that is the normal uh growth of a community. Um [2:18:38, 2:18:58]: Uh but they are concerns to the the surrounding property owners. Uh the last point or uh last two points, we are extending uh sewer from Shields Road to our site. Uh currently there is no s uh public sewer uh to our site, so we are extending sewer up to our site. These will be sewered uh properties. And then finally, just to mention four-star. [2:18:58, 2:19:18]: The Four Star is a nationwide developer of residential lots. They do quite a number of units throughout the country. And they have several in the Atlanta area. One nearby is Hampton Preserve at 103 Hampton Circle, which is a similar townhome development. And with that, I'll rest my presentation. [2:19:18, 2:19:38]: Appreciate your presentation, sir. Uh, council, any questions for Mr. Brock? Question. Oh, go ahead, Ms. Blount. Yeah, how how did you come to the the compromise to reduce the units um and to upgrade the amenities and the the whole development plan? How did you come to that conclusion? A lot of that was through discussions with uh we reached out to city council. [2:19:38, 2:19:46]: as well as staff uh prior to the public hearings uh through our through the process to hear some of the concerns early on. [2:19:47, 2:20:07]: As this body may be well aware, it's it's a lot easier to resolve issues early in the process rather than than later. Uh so we were able to take a second look at the density uh to go back and sharpen our pencils to reduce the number of units as much as we can uh to increase to allow for increased uh guest parking as [2:20:07, 2:20:27]: well as what unit what amenities we could provide. We looked at the cost of construction of a full clubhouse versus a pavilion uh and were able to provide that without impacting the HOA. A lot of these concerns also go towards what the homeowners will be paying in uh HOA fees. [2:20:27, 2:20:29]: [8430.3, 8443.6]: Well that's well that's what what I'm getting to because I'm trying to figure out how do you go from what you all originally had to the compromise because these compromise are very specific. [2:20:43, 2:21:03]: And are you these compromise? Are you dealing with the district? Um council member in that district for for the compromise. Is that correct? That's correct. Uh the clubhouse, uh the ten foot sidewalk, and uh a number of the other items came f uh specifically from our our council member through her discussions and she she has been [2:21:03, 2:21:05]: And uh community with us. [2:21:05, 2:21:06]: No. [2:21:08, 2:21:15]: Any other questions? Go ahead, Miss Barber. Thank you. As the city council district representative [2:21:15, 2:21:18]: Of the area that you all are proposing. [2:21:18, 2:21:19]: for this development. [2:21:21, 2:21:25]: I had a couple of questions for staff. Mr Ryan Anderson. [2:21:26, 2:21:34]: Ms. Carter, I wanted to know can just for the record. When was this application for this development originally submitted? [2:21:34, 2:21:36]: Uh I'm thinking in August. [2:21:37, 2:21:44]: August of last year. Yes. Thank you, sir. Oh I mean October. October. October, right, Linda? Yes, October. [2:21:45, 2:21:46]: Oh, thank you, sir. All right. [2:21:47, 2:21:47]: Okay. [2:21:49, 2:21:52]: Октоб ластєр диспатики. [2:21:53, 2:21:54]: Within [2:21:54, 2:21:55]: The county. [2:21:55, 2:21:58]: an unincorporated Henry County. [2:21:59, 2:22:00]: I spoke with [2:22:00, 2:22:03]: Юсер і алам від партнерс. [2:22:03, 2:22:04]: Early on. [2:22:04, 2:22:08]: It was prior to the approval of the annexation. [2:22:08, 2:22:09]: I just want that [2:22:10, 2:22:11]: For the record. [2:22:12, 2:22:14]: When you contacted me in regards to this, [2:22:14, 2:22:19]: It was for a proposal of two hundred and fifty something odd units. [2:22:20, 2:22:28]: I want to say for the record, I support our city's efforts in redeveloping, redeveloping our entire city. [2:22:29, 2:22:31]: I'm gonna be real transparent about that. [2:22:32, 2:22:34]: I support the efforts. [2:22:36, 2:22:40]: I also support efforts in helping to improve [2:22:41, 2:22:43]: certain areas within my district as well. [2:22:44, 2:22:47]: This particular area I inquired about. [2:22:47, 2:22:51]: Um immediately after the annexation was approved. [2:22:51, 2:22:55]: I wanted to know what we could do to improve the quality of life. [2:22:55, 2:23:00]: Of all of the residents and homeowners within my district. [2:23:02, 2:23:03]: When I spoke with you all [2:23:04, 2:23:05]: Back in October. [2:23:06, 2:23:08]: November, whenever it was, I believe October. [2:23:09, 2:23:12]: Um I asked you all at that time to reduce the amount of units. [2:23:13, 2:23:23]: I think you've reduced your amount of units twice since then, um, perhaps with further discussions with staff. [2:23:24, 2:23:26]: I also asked during the original [2:23:26, 2:23:27]: Discussion. [2:23:27, 2:23:29]: For clubhouse and pool. [2:23:30, 2:23:35]: I also asked if you all could develop single family homes instead of town homes. [2:23:36, 2:23:40]: I also ask that you all explore tiny home options. [2:23:40, 2:23:41]: As well. [2:23:42, 2:23:43]: But here we are. [2:23:43, 2:23:45]: still with a town home development. [2:23:47, 2:23:55]: I have had an opportunity over the past three weeks to get out and talk with some of the homeowners in the area. [2:23:55, 2:23:58]: Агатасе, ам диспоїд і еферс. [2:23:58, 2:23:59]: Two. [2:23:59, 2:24:00]: Communicate. [2:24:00, 2:24:04]: with the residents who live in the immediate area for this proposed development. [2:24:05, 2:24:08]: Which is why last week when I spoke with [2:24:08, 2:24:09]: The two gentlemen. [2:24:09, 2:24:17]: I ask please postpone this presentation until there is adequate notice that's given to the homeowners there. [2:24:17, 2:24:19]: I represent them. [2:24:20, 2:24:21]: Their interests. [2:24:21, 2:24:22]: Not mine. [2:24:23, 2:24:25]: I support redevelopment. [2:24:26, 2:24:27]: Throughout our city. [2:24:27, 2:24:29]: Including this area. [2:24:29, 2:24:30]: However [2:24:31, 2:24:33]: I am elected to represent. [2:24:34, 2:24:36]: The needs, desires of the people. [2:24:37, 2:24:38]: Not my own. [2:24:39, 2:24:40]: The residents who are here [2:24:41, 2:24:44]: That I've spoken with since then. [2:24:44, 2:24:46]: They are not in support of this development. [2:24:47, 2:24:48]: I wanted time to [2:24:48, 2:24:50]: Continue talking to them. [2:24:50, 2:24:53]: and addressing their concerns and their desires. [2:24:54, 2:24:57]: In fact, I believe in twenty nineteen. [2:24:57, 2:24:59]: Де вас і потишн. [2:24:59, 2:25:02]: By homeowners who live off of Shields Road. [2:25:03, 2:25:05]: They were trying to get [2:25:05, 2:25:06]: Caution lights. [2:25:07, 2:25:08]: Speed bumps. [2:25:10, 2:25:11]: Sidewalks. [2:25:12, 2:25:14]: They even got a petition. [2:25:15, 2:25:16]: With [2:25:16, 2:25:19]: I can't remember how many signatures are on that petition. [2:25:19, 2:25:21]: I have a copy of it, it's in my car though. [2:25:21, 2:25:24]: Бо the ситі газ такин но акція. [2:25:25, 2:25:27]: А вона мекшир да ім фостерин. [2:25:28, 2:25:29]: And good. [2:25:29, 2:25:31]: relationship with the folks that I am [2:25:32, 2:25:34]: Supposed to represent. [2:25:35, 2:25:36]: Thank you, sir. [2:25:39, 2:25:59]: But we have no stem stem I first of all, sir, you should not have done that. That's something that should have been gotten to the clerk or you should have been announced, or I should've acknowledged you. Number two is the time I I think the time that that that Miss Barber's talking about this, this community, I believe, was not inside the city of limits of Stockbridge. If we're talking about Yes, it is. He lives on Shields Road. Okay. It is in within [2:25:59, 2:25:59]: Yeah. [2:26:00, 2:26:04]: The city and it's been within the city. Okay. Oh go ahead. Go ahead. [2:26:04, 2:26:08]: А sent an email to my council maids um back in April. [2:26:09, 2:26:10]: And again. [2:26:10, 2:26:12]: Um just last week. [2:26:13, 2:26:26]: Letting you all know that I would not be supporting this proposed development at this time. I ask for more time. More time because I want to see our city make [2:26:27, 2:26:27]: A [2:26:28, 2:26:28]: Um [2:26:29, 2:26:30]: Farm [2:26:30, 2:26:31]: Effort. [2:26:31, 2:26:33]: in addressing the infrastructure needs. [2:26:34, 2:26:36]: I'm afraid with this proposed development. [2:26:37, 2:26:40]: That is going to increase the traffic flow on that area. [2:26:41, 2:26:42]: I know that is not [2:26:42, 2:26:43]: Your responsibility. [2:26:44, 2:26:46]: Із ситі'с репоси. [2:26:46, 2:26:53]: The misalignment of Shields Road and Davis Road is already their safety concerns. [2:26:54, 2:26:55]: Already. [2:26:55, 2:26:56]: A knee for [2:26:57, 2:26:59]: Myself and my councilmates. [2:26:59, 2:27:01]: Point of order. [2:27:02, 2:27:22]: Legal, I I need us you to chime in to make sure we're not putting ourselves in a precarious position with some of these. Um I am addressing the concerns with other residents. He had a point of order who live in standby. He had he asked for point of order. I will continue will addressing the concerns that I've addressed with the developers already. [2:27:22, 2:27:32]: I just want this on record. Okay, stand by please. I've made stand by six. Could you stand by for a second, please? Relax for a second, please. Mr. had a point of order. Uh um Mr. Washington. [2:27:33, 2:27:53]: Your point of order seem to always come when I speak. I I don't want to cut off your rights, but I want don't we get to understand that where we're some of the comments that you made may make this easier for it to be appealed. And I and I wanna make sure the decision that we're made is sound. And if we're talking [2:27:53, 2:28:07]: about traffic improvements being placed upon the developer, that's not the is a responsability of the developer. I said that is the city's responsability. [2:28:08, 2:28:09]: The city has neglected. [2:28:10, 2:28:30]: neglected improving the infrastructure in that area. Okay, step I can't support this. Stand by. Could you could you calm down for a second? Stand by for a second please. Ms. Alexander had a point of order. He's right the he's right here in front. I just need I want to make sure that you're here and you're understanding and you're listening to what's being input. [2:28:30, 2:28:50]: But I 100% support your right to be able to support your district. But I don't want us to do something that will make our put our decision in jeopardy, which is talking about improvements that need to be made before we can move forward that the city is accountable for, because what we're doing is we're putting our [2:28:50, 2:29:10]: myself in a position where we're putting, even though we're saying that these are the responsibility of the city, we're making the dis we we're I don't want you to and I don't want to put words in your mouth. You we're we're we're we're it's projecting out like these things have to be accomplished before they can move forward. And they're not their responsibility. There's the city's responsibility [2:29:10, 2:29:30]: Responsibility. So we can't hold them up because we failed to do those role projects. As you said, that was in the city. We failed on that side. But we got to keep that on our side. And we can't hold their project up. You can deny it, but you can't deny it on those grounds that those things need to be done first before they move forward. Is what I'm saying. [2:29:30, 2:29:34]: I just want to make sure you or you're listening to what's being said. [2:29:34, 2:29:35]: What the [2:29:36, 2:29:56]: The way in which we have been working with the new development code is that if something is passed and the applicant has an issue with it, then part of the discretion that the department has along the legal is if it is going to be a legal issue, we can reserve that issue and make a decision about it. [2:29:56, 2:30:16]: it and if the parties don't agree to it then we can bring it back to you all for you all to make the final call on it and so what the hope has been is that we've always been able to work with the applicants in such a way that their goals can be accomplished while at the same time making sure we as the staff work to make sure your goals are executed in this. So they can be further they can be further reviewed as long [2:30:16, 2:30:20]: as it's not substantive further review after you all have voted on it. [2:30:21, 2:30:37]: Thank you. I'm okay with what you you you represent in the district for sure. I appreciate it. I'd like to continue addressing the concerns and desires of the residents that I represent. If I could please you can continue, but don't also get an opportunity to speak. You know, get three minutes to speak in a little bit. [2:30:37, 2:30:41]: You had to stand by, sir. Just stand by f just a little bit, sir. Stand by. Go ahead, finish your comments. [2:30:43, 2:30:44]: Does Barber finish your comments? [2:30:45, 2:30:45]: Okay. [2:30:45, 2:30:46]: Um [2:30:46, 2:30:47]: So [2:30:48, 2:30:50]: The misalignment of [2:30:50, 2:30:51]: Lee um [2:30:52, 2:30:53]: Davis Road. [2:30:53, 2:30:54]: In Shields Road. [2:30:54, 2:30:55]: Um [2:30:56, 2:30:57]: Has me really concerned. [2:30:57, 2:30:58]: Considering [2:30:58, 2:31:01]: диспис диспетишн [2:31:01, 2:31:03]: For speed bumps was presented to the council. [2:31:04, 2:31:07]: January twenty nineteen. That was prior to me. [2:31:07, 2:31:18]: Um and the city has not taken any action on it. There are safety concerns there. That's one of my standby sec. What's your point of order? Uh but stand by please. What's your point of order, sir? [2:31:18, 2:31:30]: Mayor, we're here with this in front of us. We need to speak what's germane to this, not pass petitions, not pass wants and needs of a community. I I sympathize with everybody. [2:31:31, 2:31:35]: But that's not germane to what's in front of us right now, what we need to deal with. [2:31:36, 2:31:43]: This is what this is empty time that we waste. And I'm not gonna I'm I'm not belittling what they what the communities want. [2:31:44, 2:31:50]: But speed bumps and all of that has nothing to do with this development. That's not germane to what the subject at hand. [2:31:51, 2:31:54]: We need to stick to the subject at hand because for me [2:31:55, 2:31:57]: What gets convoluted for me is [2:31:58, 2:32:18]: When you when we sit here and we look at all these compromises and all these requests and all these things and the developers is uh is doing it, and now we come back and saying now we want to talk about what they've asked for privately, that's not germane to what we're talking about right here. We need to stick to the subject here. All right, all right. Understand by understand your point. [2:32:18, 2:32:34]: Is this a public hearing? It it sure is a public hearing. Okay then the public is going to address their concerns, right? I want to continue addressing my concerns at our germane to this proposed development. If you will allow me and stop cutting me off. [2:32:34, 2:32:51]: Listen. Everyone else in here is able to speak freely without interruption. I have listen, uh I'm I'm fair and equal but You're not being fair. Yes I yes I am. I have You're not. Well I'm pointing out the speaker things that this city has failed to do. I tell you what. [2:32:51, 2:33:07]: I'll tell you what you do. How about this? You go ahead and finish. No, stand by standard. I want you to hear me out. You go ahead and finish. The people will get a chance to speak, it's a public hearing. You go ahead and finish. And we'll just see what happens in the future. I understand your concern, Mr. Blount. Go ahead. Go ahead and finish your comments and then we'll continue on. Um [2:33:08, 2:33:09]: When I asked [2:33:10, 2:33:24]: that they postpone this hearing uh or postponed this hearing to a later date to notify all of the residents who are affected in the immediate area. I did not hear back from them. [2:33:25, 2:33:26]: During the planning commission meeting [2:33:27, 2:33:37]: One of the homeowners, the homeowner whose home is adjacent to this proposed development, asked for a community forum. [2:33:38, 2:33:41]: The proposed developer, they agreed. [2:33:42, 2:33:46]: They notified only those properties that are a but. [2:33:46, 2:33:47]: Two. [2:33:48, 2:33:49]: This proposed development. [2:33:50, 2:33:52]: Only those homeowners. [2:33:53, 2:33:54]: And residents. [2:33:54, 2:34:05]: in Century Oaks Duplex Town Home Community, who live on the left side of that same community. They were the only ones notified. [2:34:05, 2:34:08]: All the ones who are on the right side of the street [2:34:08, 2:34:09]: were not notified. [2:34:10, 2:34:13]: I know that because I walked through the community. [2:34:13, 2:34:17]: I saw the notices that were left by the developer. [2:34:18, 2:34:27]: on the ground, they were in ziploc bo bags with rocks, rocks in them with the notices in them. But I didn't see any of'em on the right side. [2:34:29, 2:34:33]: In addition to that, none of the residents along Shields Road [2:34:33, 2:34:39]: or the other neighborhood on the opposite side of Pine Hill's town home. [2:34:39, 2:34:41]: have been notified. [2:34:41, 2:34:47]: I just wanted to give adequate time to all of the homeowners who would be impacted. [2:34:47, 2:34:48]: by this proposed development. [2:34:49, 2:34:50]: Once again. [2:34:51, 2:34:52]: I do not [2:34:52, 2:34:53]: Um [2:34:53, 2:34:56]: Oppose of this development. [2:34:56, 2:35:02]: What I'm asking is that every developer that comes to city council district four [2:35:03, 2:35:04]: Be developer friendly. [2:35:06, 2:35:07]: Developer friendly. [2:35:08, 2:35:13]: Anytime you're looking to develop in City Council District Four, you're gonna have to see me. [2:35:15, 2:35:15]: And I will [2:35:16, 2:35:18]: Ask that you please. [2:35:18, 2:35:20]: Please work with the people. [2:35:20, 2:35:22]: Who live in that area? [2:35:22, 2:35:23]: That's all I'm asking. [2:35:24, 2:35:27]: I think I mentioned about the clubhouse and the pool. [2:35:27, 2:35:29]: I asked for that early on. [2:35:29, 2:35:32]: I know that there is areas [2:35:32, 2:35:35]: Um in the back side of this development does not [2:35:35, 2:35:36]: Bill. [2:35:38, 2:35:38]: He didn't [2:35:39, 2:35:41]: The attorney didn't address that. [2:35:41, 2:35:42]: [9342.9, 9344.1]: That area in the back. [2:35:44, 2:35:48]: I don't know if it's wetlands or whatever the case may be, but it's not buildable. [2:35:49, 2:35:55]: Um, I don't like the fact that all these homes in the middle are squeezed in like it looks as though. [2:35:55, 2:35:57]: You know, you're jamming in. [2:35:58, 2:35:59]: Um town homes. [2:36:00, 2:36:03]: I did speak with the two gentlemen on the phone last week. [2:36:04, 2:36:07]: They requested a phone call with me. [2:36:07, 2:36:10]: In which I addressed um those middle [2:36:10, 2:36:11]: Units. [2:36:12, 2:36:14]: There are five of them in the middle. [2:36:15, 2:36:18]: I even um refer to a propo well [2:36:19, 2:36:20]: A [2:36:20, 2:36:22]: Town home community that I had driven through. [2:36:23, 2:36:24]: In Tucker. [2:36:24, 2:36:26]: Um Avery Hills, I believe. [2:36:27, 2:36:31]: Um I drove through there because I wanted to see what other town home communities look like. [2:36:32, 2:36:37]: With this proposed development they're asking for a variance of a twenty five feet. [2:36:37, 2:36:38]: Set bag. [2:36:38, 2:36:39]: Our current [2:36:40, 2:36:44]: Um code requires a fifty feet setback. [2:36:44, 2:36:48]: But this proposed development is asking for a variance. [2:36:48, 2:36:49]: I wanted to verify. [2:36:50, 2:36:53]: What new town homes currently? [2:36:53, 2:36:54]: are doing. [2:36:55, 2:37:00]: And they are correct. Most town homes now do have a twenty five feet setback. [2:37:01, 2:37:06]: But that community, Avery Heels, does not have a hundred and seventy units. [2:37:08, 2:37:08]: They have [2:37:09, 2:37:11]: Less than seventy five units. [2:37:11, 2:37:12]: We looked at it together. [2:37:16, 2:37:17]: So [2:37:17, 2:37:20]: In order to get my support on this proposed development [2:37:20, 2:37:24]: There are some firm commitments I'm looking for from the city. [2:37:24, 2:37:28]: Most of the areas that have been newly annexed in our city. [2:37:29, 2:37:33]: A lot of them are in city council district four. [2:37:33, 2:37:34]: So the clever [2:37:34, 2:37:35]: Person. [2:37:35, 2:37:38]: Who drew these district lines because [2:37:38, 2:37:40]: I wasn't involved in any of that. [2:37:40, 2:37:42]: They knew exactly what they were doing. [2:37:42, 2:37:45]: You're gonna get pushback from me every time. [2:37:45, 2:37:47]: When you try to make a decision for me. [2:37:48, 2:37:50]: And force me to just go along. [2:37:50, 2:37:51]: I'm not. [2:37:51, 2:37:52]: I will [2:37:53, 2:37:57]: Always rely on what the people in the community want. [2:37:58, 2:37:59]: They have to live there. [2:38:00, 2:38:01]: I live farthest east of the city. [2:38:02, 2:38:03]: They live farthest north. [2:38:04, 2:38:24]: I think I have addressed all of the concerns. Thank you, Mayor Ford. Appreciate it. Um Ms. Rosalind, uh come on up, please, and and do what you need to do. Um and uh could you do me a favor, Rosalind? Could you get uh our make sure our attorneys present at the right here, please? Thank you. Um okay. [2:38:24, 2:38:27]: Uh thank you for that. Any other I'm sorry, Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:38:28, 2:38:29]: Mayor, I just want to say this. [2:38:31, 2:38:31]: Is that [2:38:32, 2:38:35]: When we have anyone come present to us. [2:38:37, 2:38:39]: I look at everything for me. [2:38:41, 2:38:46]: And I I tell you what's what what's convoluted this whole thing for me is [2:38:46, 2:38:48]: Is that the developers [2:38:49, 2:38:50]: And what's been stated. [2:38:50, 2:38:52]: has reduced the amount of [2:38:52, 2:38:54]: Holmes twice. [2:38:54, 2:38:58]: I asked the developer how did he come to the compromise? [2:38:58, 2:39:00]: And it has come from discussions. [2:39:01, 2:39:05]: Reducing the units, upgrading amenities, these all things been discussions. [2:39:06, 2:39:10]: Development plans, ten foot pad all of these things been discussions. [2:39:12, 2:39:18]: They have been discussed not by what you don't want, it's been discussed about what you want to see. [2:39:18, 2:39:20]: That's what all this is. [2:39:21, 2:39:23]: So either we're gonna waste [2:39:24, 2:39:28]: developers time and discuss these things and they make the changes [2:39:29, 2:39:35]: What's convoluted for me is is that if you don't want something, why ask someone to make changes? [2:39:37, 2:39:38]: It makes no sense to me. [2:39:39, 2:39:40]: Oh yeah. All right. [2:39:40, 2:39:51]: I thank you. Um I have uh I have a couple of yeah. Yeah, go ahead, please. Th but see, Mr. Washington, this is the position that I I'm very concerned about, which is [2:39:52, 2:39:57]: We are s we're in a position where the developer has made numerous concessions already. [2:39:58, 2:40:05]: and we're stating that we want more concessions and then we want the city to do certain things. [2:40:06, 2:40:06]: The city [2:40:07, 2:40:13]: Can't the the requirements for the city to do these things can't be attached to this development. [2:40:14, 2:40:14]: Right. [2:40:15, 2:40:35]: Right. D these requirements, that's why I'm saying mentioning them make them seem as though the city has to commit to them before this can move forward. I don't want to put us in a position, I hope that's not what's being said. Certainly that's not a position that we want to put ourselves in. But as Mr. Bunt has alluded to. [2:40:35, 2:40:55]: We've had ongoing discussions with them. So we need to get to the point of if it is going to be, if it's not going to be, you tell us what it's going to be, but what is it that you're looking to see or that you want to see? But these the these road improvements can't be a part of that. [2:40:55, 2:41:15]: Because that's not upon them in order to do that. If there's something else that you want them to do as the developer, and then you you gotta understand you asked them to reach out to the community. They're not required to do that under the city code. So they've already gone above and beyond what was required. [2:41:15, 2:41:20]: They did not have to go to they did not have to have this uh community meeting. [2:41:20, 2:41:40]: At all. They decided to have it. They did not have to go out and pass out these additional flyers to the other residents. They did. They did not pass enough for you. But again, that is a ask. That is not a tell. They have the right to say no because under city code, they're not required to do that. So what I'm saying. [2:41:40, 2:41:43]: [9704.1, 9724.1]: Time is money to the developers and to the city and to the residents as well. We don't want them to keep coming back up here if it's it to understand what it is going to happen. So we need to get to a point where is what is known to them that they gotta do what hoop they gotta jump through or what uh if this is just impossible. [2:42:04, 2:42:24]: Say that it's impossible if that's what your position is. But if there's something that they can do uh to sort of mitigate this or something the residents can do, but I want to hear from the residents. We've talked enough. You'll get that shortened. So let's let's hear from the residents. You'll get that shortening so just appreciate it. Everybody in council, uh Mr. Thomas has spoken. I didn't know if whether or not you [2:42:24, 2:42:25]: You wanted to have a comment, sir, at this time. [2:42:26, 2:42:28]: Okay, good. All right. So uh [2:42:28, 2:42:33]: That's enough for right now. Public hearing. So now I'm gonna open up for a public hearing. [2:42:33, 2:42:33]: All right. [2:42:35, 2:42:36]: Miss Barber, give me a little. [2:42:39, 2:42:40]: Yes, ma'am. [2:42:40, 2:42:46]: We have Mr. Richard Richard. Well Sam standby st s stand by m uh stand by please. [2:42:46, 2:42:56]: Let me open up public hearing. Uh in point of contention. Are we doing ten four, ten against or we're going to do the whole thing? We're doing we're we're going to open it up and I'm gonna give folks the top three three minutes to [2:42:57, 2:43:09]: Three minutes to speak. Okay. So I'm open to public hearing. So all in favor in favor of, just like the last time, and all in favor of this proposal, this development. Okay, on my far left side. Any comments for? [2:43:10, 2:43:11]: Any comments in the middle? [2:43:12, 2:43:14]: Any comments for on the right side. [2:43:15, 2:43:17]: Okay, wait a minute. [2:43:18, 2:43:19]: You have comics for? [2:43:19, 2:43:20]: For the development. [2:43:21, 2:43:41]: Okay, not in the middle, none uh anyone comments on the right side. Not on the right side. Okay, any comments against this particular proposal proposal, stand by. And I'm talking about on my far left. Okay? You need to line up on this side, please. Okay, you need line up right up here. Uh uh Kim, uh Lance, raise your hand. Okay, line up right right there in that aisle right. [2:43:41, 2:43:48]: Right next to that gentleman right there. If if you're if you're stand by. I'm talking about the left side. [2:43:49, 2:43:50]: I'm talking about the left side. [2:43:51, 2:43:56]: I just line line up right there. If the stay just just play line up, just sta establish line. All right. [2:43:56, 2:43:58]: Okay. Any anybody in the middle? [2:43:59, 2:44:00]: For a against [2:44:01, 2:44:02]: Against [2:44:03, 2:44:05]: Against the proposal. I always did four. [2:44:05, 2:44:06]: Okay. [2:44:12, 2:44:14]: I've already s asked for four. I went I went through that process. [2:44:16, 2:44:18]: I closed the floor. I went through I went through that process. [2:44:25, 2:44:33]: Okay one one second. Right now, sir, just have a seat for right. [2:44:34, 2:44:35]: Have a seat for right now. [2:44:36, 2:44:36]: All right. [2:44:37, 2:44:42]: For okay, left side, people are against. Independent, people that are against this proposal. [2:44:44, 2:44:46]: Okay, line up behind this gentleman over here. [2:44:47, 2:44:49]: On my far right side, anybody against the proposal? [2:44:50, 2:44:55]: So right now I have I have two gentlemen that are against the proposal that's being presented. [2:44:58, 2:44:59]: Against [2:44:59, 2:45:00]: Against [2:45:04, 2:45:06]: Okay, that's what I thought he said earlier. [2:45:06, 2:45:07]: Okay. [2:45:07, 2:45:13]: Anybody anybody that is against the proposal, line up over here please. [2:45:14, 2:45:14]: Now [2:45:15, 2:45:23]: When you come up, get your name and address, and you get three minutes. Three minutes. The clerk will will set the clock for three minutes. [2:45:24, 2:45:24]: Okay, Mayor. [2:45:25, 2:45:32]: Initially we went through that. I have no speakers that were in favor when you went through that. [2:45:32, 2:45:45]: I I I've realized that but seems though I don't know why I thought I was clear, but he said he's for this, so I'm gonna run come back. Okay, I will come I will come back. Okay. I will come back. All right now. [2:45:46, 2:45:53]: I I seem like I got three, maybe three people that are against, all right? Come on to the podium. Name and address. Three minutes, please, Miss Clerk. [2:45:56, 2:46:04]: My name is Mark McFry. I live at 289 Shields Road, Stockbridge, Georgia. Thank you, Mr. Ford. Go ahead. Thank you. Thank you, Council. [2:46:06, 2:46:11]: I don't think we're all against this proposal. I think what we're against is the high density. [2:46:12, 2:46:16]: You've already got rules right now in place. [2:46:16, 2:46:19]: Why change'em now just for this developer. [2:46:21, 2:46:23]: That's what I ask. [2:46:23, 2:46:25]: We're looking at quality of life. [2:46:25, 2:46:31]: You know, you putn he said he wanted two hundred and fifty something, then they dropped it down to two thirty. [2:46:31, 2:46:37]: I'm looking at that land. All right. He's got a hundred and seventy crammed in there now. [2:46:37, 2:46:39]: What were they gonna do? Just [2:46:39, 2:46:40]: Bordeaux and [2:46:41, 2:46:44]: cover up that pond and that wetlands and just build on top of that. [2:46:45, 2:46:48]: I build. I've been building for forty years. [2:46:48, 2:46:50]: I know how developers work. [2:46:51, 2:46:55]: If they can put a place in there, they'd put it in there. [2:46:55, 2:46:58]: When it was Henry County, that was their plan. [2:46:58, 2:47:00]: To put two hundred and fifty. [2:47:00, 2:47:02]: When it was City of Start Bridge. [2:47:02, 2:47:05]: It was Miss Barber that, you know, said no. [2:47:06, 2:47:10]: That's because yeah, it is a community. We're homeowners. [2:47:10, 2:47:12]: And we live adjacent to it. [2:47:12, 2:47:15]: But we're not the community. We're just part of the community. [2:47:16, 2:47:19]: All we're asking is for you to the [2:47:19, 2:47:20]: The nah. [2:47:21, 2:47:22]: High density. [2:47:22, 2:47:23]: Keep it at medium. [2:47:24, 2:47:29]: That way if any other developments come up, we're still in the medium density. [2:47:29, 2:47:30]: Zhou. [2:47:31, 2:47:34]: Now, if they wanna be in medium density, they still wanna build. [2:47:34, 2:47:41]: How many townhouses is that gonna shave off what they got now? If they're at six point whatever. [2:47:42, 2:47:54]: You know, what, maybe twenty twenty houses, maybe twenty five? I mean, I don't know that's gonna make a difference. It doesn't to us, I mean, but you know, [2:47:55, 2:48:00]: There is an issue with traffic and I think the infrastructure is too far behind. [2:48:01, 2:48:02]: For this kind of development. [2:48:03, 2:48:07]: Henry County for years has been behind. [2:48:07, 2:48:10]: Он девеління інфраструктура. [2:48:11, 2:48:16]: If the infrastructure was there, we probably wouldn't have this conversation. [2:48:16, 2:48:17]: But it's not there. [2:48:18, 2:48:27]: Just last year, year before last, they put a sidewalk next to my property. They took out all my trees that were buffers between me and that road. [2:48:27, 2:48:29]: I live on the corner. [2:48:29, 2:48:45]: I hear everything that goes on. All the loud cars, all the motorcycles, all the b horns being blown because people are running that stop sign. We do need some help. We need help for inst infrastructure. [2:48:45, 2:48:50]: And the zoning meeting that I went to and my wife went to. [2:48:50, 2:48:52]: And my neighbors went too. [2:48:52, 2:48:56]: All they were concerned with was everything from their development [2:48:56, 2:48:57]: To forty two. [2:48:58, 2:49:01]: They weren't concerned about anything going toward the city of Stockbridge. [2:49:02, 2:49:06]: Sit three minutes, sir. Thank you. Appreciate it. Next gentleman. [2:49:09, 2:49:12]: Name, address and clerk three minutes please. [2:49:13, 2:49:17]: My name is Vernard Alcorn. I'm at one nine seven Shields Road. [2:49:17, 2:49:19]: Stockworth, Georgia. [2:49:20, 2:49:20]: Uh uh. [2:49:22, 2:49:23]: As Mark has said [2:49:23, 2:49:25]: We're not against [2:49:25, 2:49:26]: Them building. [2:49:26, 2:49:29]: We're not ad against developing the area. [2:49:29, 2:49:30]: What I'm against. [2:49:31, 2:49:33]: Is there's been no notification. [2:49:33, 2:49:37]: put on my door. There's piece of property beside my house. [2:49:37, 2:49:40]: But they wanted to build something that we didn't let happen. [2:49:40, 2:49:42]: Or or or it hasn't happened. Hasn't come through. [2:49:43, 2:49:48]: Because they want to put a church in our residence without any easement or anything. [2:49:48, 2:49:50]: And traffic is already bad. [2:49:50, 2:49:56]: People are running the stop sign right there at my house. You can come down Davis Road. My house sets with the Horseshoe uh driveway. [2:49:57, 2:49:58]: One nine seven [2:49:58, 2:50:03]: I have grandkids. We play in the front yard. They're riding by. [2:50:03, 2:50:07]: Throwing trash in my yard. They're rot that's now before you even build. [2:50:07, 2:50:13]: So I just want to understand that if the city is wanting them to build something, excuse me. [2:50:15, 2:50:19]: Act on all of what hasn't been acted on before for the traffic. [2:50:20, 2:50:21]: Act on for the crime. [2:50:22, 2:50:22]: I'll say crime. [2:50:23, 2:50:24]: My house has been shot at. [2:50:25, 2:50:25]: Twice. [2:50:26, 2:50:29]: They busted up all my windows going through my house. [2:50:30, 2:50:31]: Two thousand dollars worth of windows. [2:50:32, 2:50:34]: You want more traffic. [2:50:34, 2:50:35]: coming through my neighborhood. [2:50:36, 2:50:37]: And there's nobody. [2:50:38, 2:50:39]: Coming and talkin'. [2:50:39, 2:50:40]: There's nobody. [2:50:41, 2:50:42]: Coming and asking. [2:50:42, 2:50:45]: Us the neighbors that paid [2:50:46, 2:50:48]: out of my pocket that I'm paying for now. [2:50:48, 2:50:50]: For a three hundred thousand dollar house. [2:50:51, 2:50:51]: So [2:50:52, 2:50:54]: Listen to us. [2:50:54, 2:51:01]: Give us an opportunity to hear what they got. I'm just not hearing about widening one thirty-eight, forty-two, I'm the the island. [2:51:02, 2:51:03]: I'm just not hearing that. [2:51:04, 2:51:07]: Do I have to come to a zoning meeting, Miss Work? [2:51:07, 2:51:12]: To come to a zoning meeting to hear all this, or is there gonna be a way for you all to get the information out to us? [2:51:13, 2:51:19]: But it's not good living in a neighborhood and paying taxes for a house that we're not getting the information on what's going on. [2:51:20, 2:51:22]: These people are already running down the road. [2:51:22, 2:51:24]: coming through and driving through my yard. [2:51:25, 2:51:26]: А пайфойд. [2:51:27, 2:51:29]: I shouldn't have to repair my own yard. [2:51:30, 2:51:33]: They promised me that they were gonna come and do it at the water to company. [2:51:33, 2:51:34]: And they never did. [2:51:35, 2:51:37]: So my thing to this company is to this panel is [2:51:38, 2:51:47]: Just act on the things that we've asked and that's been signed on petition that Miss Barber is trying to get across to you all that you all think is not necessary. [2:51:48, 2:51:51]: But if it was going on in your neighborhood, you'll be in my shoes. [2:51:52, 2:52:01]: All we ask is listen to her talking to us to get the information out to them on what would be suitable for us to be able to see this. [2:52:02, 2:52:03]: But the traffic [2:52:03, 2:52:04]: is gonna be horrible. [2:52:05, 2:52:09]: Y'all don't want us to talk, Mr. Albizan don't want to talk about it. It's the city's situation. [2:52:10, 2:52:11]: Лес фикс та проблем. [2:52:11, 2:52:14]: that we already have in order to bring in more. [2:52:16, 2:52:17]: I just look at it that [2:52:18, 2:52:19]: If y'all want to communicate [2:52:20, 2:52:31]: Get the information out. And let me remind everybody when you come before the poll, make sure you address the chair, which is me, please. Next next uh resident. Name and address and three minute timeline, frame, please. [2:52:36, 2:52:38]: All right, qu go ahead, ma'am. Go ahead speak, please. [2:52:39, 2:52:41]: Mary Fox, two seventy Shields Road. [2:52:41, 2:52:42]: I'm also on my lunch break. [2:52:43, 2:52:45]: Um basically I want to paraphrase. [2:52:46, 2:52:47]: I'm not here because I want [2:52:47, 2:52:49]: The traffic situation to be fixed. [2:52:50, 2:52:53]: Бо да із а ситі інфраструктура респалі. [2:52:54, 2:52:55]: It is bad right now. [2:52:56, 2:52:58]: It seems very straightforward to me. [2:52:59, 2:53:03]: That if you're increasing the population by a high density development. [2:53:03, 2:53:06]: А проблем да урейдис канат хеп. [2:53:07, 2:53:08]: But B [2:53:09, 2:53:11]: continued and exacerbated. [2:53:11, 2:53:14]: It's very simple. Don't make it high density. [2:53:15, 2:53:16]: We're not I'm not saying [2:53:16, 2:53:22]: And I think many of us are, even though we would like it in a perfect world, we're not saying fix the traffic. [2:53:23, 2:53:26]: But it's very obvious how you don't make it worse. [2:53:27, 2:53:28]: It's very simple. [2:53:28, 2:53:30]: And I had a question. [2:53:30, 2:53:32]: That's one issue. I had a question. [2:53:32, 2:53:36]: А референс войд та аксес. [2:53:37, 2:53:39]: Ас ан партиал експлуашен. [2:53:40, 2:53:42]: For why it cannot be [2:53:42, 2:53:44]: developed as single family. [2:53:46, 2:53:48]: Homes, but it can be [2:53:49, 2:53:49]: As [2:53:50, 2:53:57]: High density homes. I don't understand how you can develop it for a lot of people, but you can't develop it for [2:53:58, 2:54:00]: of lower density of population. [2:54:02, 2:54:05]: But that is my my point is that [2:54:05, 2:54:09]: If you don't fix the situation, and I'm not here to talk about traffic. [2:54:10, 2:54:10]: Clearly [2:54:11, 2:54:12]: It [2:54:12, 2:54:14]: Will make it worse. [2:54:14, 2:54:18]: if you approve it for high density, and whose responsibility is that? [2:54:19, 2:54:23]: Is it a judge's to decide on the density of the the zoning? [2:54:24, 2:54:25]: Or is it ours here? [2:54:29, 2:54:34]: We we'll handle it here, ma'am. Is that your last comment? That's it? Yes, sir. Okay. Stop the clock please, Ms uh [2:54:36, 2:54:40]: Um holida. Next next gentleman, come on up, please, sir. Name and address. [2:54:41, 2:54:48]: Council, you don't know I'd like to give this gentleman at least his three minute time frame since he seems to be the last one on the on the last one on this one uh [2:54:48, 2:54:53]: My name's Robert Schuel. Live at two fifty three Shields Road. Thank you. Go ahead for [2:54:53, 2:54:54]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. [2:54:56, 2:55:08]: Like uh Mary just said, they're saying that nobody's gonna buy that property and put single family ho ho homes on there, but they're gonna put a hundred and seventy, but to do that they gotta get a variance. [2:55:09, 2:55:15]: I don't wanna see the variance in there. Either lower the amount of houses on there, keep the fifty feet. [2:55:16, 2:55:26]: we're taking away the green space. The water comes a lot of the water comes down across my property uh right now. And I'm afraid there's gonna be more of that. [2:55:26, 2:55:29]: The second thing I don't see on there is you've got one entrance. [2:55:30, 2:55:50]: And one exit coming out of there. You've got 170 houses, say two cars per house, possibly. Look at all those vehicles that are gonna be shooting out of there, out of one entrance. Can't they put another entrance that shoots over to Valley Hill? That would be that would be something that I would like to see. That and meet. [2:55:50, 2:55:56]: Medium density. Uh don't go with the tight density. That's all I have to say. [2:55:56, 2:56:00]: Oh thank you, so I appreciate it. Thank you. Okay. Now I'm gonna go back. [2:56:00, 2:56:03]: In reference to four this was against in reference to four. [2:56:04, 2:56:05]: Last time four. [2:56:05, 2:56:06]: Open it back up. [2:56:07, 2:56:08]: My left side. [2:56:08, 2:56:09]: Over here. [2:56:09, 2:56:10]: Four. [2:56:10, 2:56:11]: No one four. [2:56:11, 2:56:12]: In the middle. [2:56:13, 2:56:14]: If you're four, come on up. [2:56:15, 2:56:20]: And see the gentleman right there, just stand right there in the aisle. Okay. Anybody else? Four from the middle. [2:56:20, 2:56:29]: Four uh uh over here in my far right. Okay, seems like only one. Come on, sir. You name and address and you get three minutes. [2:56:31, 2:56:32]: Madam Curt, please. [2:56:32, 2:56:36]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and City Council members. My name is Richard Ordones. [2:56:37, 2:56:56]: My wife Reba Smith Ordonis and I have lived down the street on one 12-man boulevard in District 4 for 30 years. Reba grew up at 576 Davis Road on the property being discussed tonight, of which she and her family she and her siblings still own. This evening I am speaking on behalf of her and her family. [2:56:56, 2:57:02]: Our family has deep roots in Stockbridge. Our father originally purchased his property in nineteen fifty and raised us there. [2:57:03, 2:57:09]: We understand change can be hard as we have seen a lot change in the area over the last seventy-three years. [2:57:09, 2:57:17]: Stockbridge has grown to be a welcoming and enjoyable place to live. Our parents even donated a part of their land as they felt was their civic duty. [2:57:17, 2:57:22]: So Davis Road could be paved and used to the advantage of the residents and the future of our city. [2:57:23, 2:57:26]: This was their home and they would do what they could for family. [2:57:26, 2:57:28]: Friends and the neighborhood. [2:57:28, 2:57:30]: That's what a community is all about. [2:57:31, 2:57:34]: Імажі фору фай хомс. [2:57:34, 2:57:35]: On Davis Road. [2:57:36, 2:57:39]: And one home and several chicken houses with hundreds of [2:57:40, 2:57:44]: With chicken houses with hundreds of chickens on Shields Road seven decades ago. [2:57:45, 2:57:47]: Stockbridge went from dirt roads [2:57:48, 2:57:51]: One caution light and only several homes on our street. [2:57:51, 2:58:00]: To the influx of new residents, businesses, paved roads, and the existence of Interstates 75 and 675. [2:58:00, 2:58:03]: as well as the bridge on North Henry Boulevard. [2:58:04, 2:58:06]: We grew up watching the transformation of our city. [2:58:06, 2:58:08]: Від ню трейло парк с кросса стріт. [2:58:09, 2:58:13]: Then next door to us, as well as new homes going up and down Davis Road. [2:58:13, 2:58:15]: And the surrounding countryside. [2:58:15, 2:58:19]: To the addition of multiple duplexes on Century Oaks Court. [2:58:20, 2:58:23]: These changes and developments had major impacts on our lives. [2:58:23, 2:58:26]: We were farmers and had various farm animals throughout the decades. [2:58:27, 2:58:31]: We had to contend with these changes and its effect on us and our livestock. [2:58:31, 2:58:34]: However, this was our home and we adjusted. [2:58:35, 2:58:37]: We adjusted to all these changes and [2:58:37, 2:58:41]: And welcomed our new neighbors over the decades as a community should. [2:58:41, 2:58:44]: Communities thrive with new homes and new businesses. [2:58:45, 2:58:49]: Adjustments are sometimes necessary but can be made for the benefit of all. [2:58:53, 2:59:03]: With new growth like the amphitheater, Stockbridge Police Department, and continued enhancements to our parks comes increased costs as well as traffic flow considerations. [2:59:04, 2:59:09]: It is our hope that the development of our property will allow for a quality community to be built. [2:59:09, 2:59:13]: That will not only allow more individuals and families to move to Stockbridge. [2:59:14, 2:59:18]: But also provide additional revenues to support the continued growth of our beloved city. [2:59:19, 2:59:23]: As a family, we do not have an interest in developing this property ourselves. [2:59:23, 2:59:25]: This process has been a long one. [2:59:26, 2:59:31]: And the plan before you is the result of a collaborative effort between the applicant and stakeholders in the city. [2:59:32, 2:59:35]: I know our coun our councilwoman, Miss Barber. [2:59:35, 2:59:39]: Would agree that Stockbridge is a wonderful place to live and raise a family. [2:59:39, 2:59:45]: And as the city's mayor pro temp, I know she stands ready to serve and represent all of her constituents. [2:59:45, 2:59:47]: In her district, as well as residents of Stockbridge. [2:59:48, 2:59:49]: We appreciate this. [2:59:50, 2:59:52]: And are here tonight as your constituents. [2:59:52, 2:59:53]: And neighbors. [2:59:54, 2:59:57]: To ask this council for your support and approval of this project. [2:59:58, 3:00:01]: Thank you for the opportunity to present our family. [3:00:02, 3:00:03]: Our history in Stockbridge. [3:00:04, 3:00:11]: and our desire to see our parents' land and legacy be used for the continued growth and success of the city of Stockbridge. [3:00:12, 3:00:19]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Thank you. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, that we got four and against. I'm now gonna close the public hearing. All right. [3:00:19, 3:00:24]: Now it comes down to point unless there are any last little comments from the council. I'm like Yes sir. [3:00:25, 3:00:27]: Yeah, I just wanna make this comment. Um [3:00:29, 3:00:35]: Because I'm I'm hearing that you got people that are not against it, um and it wasn't informed. [3:00:36, 3:00:40]: That can be taken care of when you talk about infrastructure. There's a plan in place. [3:00:41, 3:00:42]: We talk about concerns. [3:00:43, 3:00:45]: Well there's something was passed around by speed bumps. [3:00:46, 3:00:50]: If you all sign a petition for speed bumps, I'm promising you this. [3:00:51, 3:00:53]: If you sign a petition for speed box. [3:00:54, 3:00:56]: And everything is lined up in order. [3:00:56, 3:01:02]: Your district representative, no matter what district you're in, can make that happen. It doesn't have to be here. [3:01:03, 3:01:06]: It can be behind closed doors. They can make that happen. [3:01:06, 3:01:17]: Because there's a process that you do, and once you do that process, you hold us accountable for making that process that you did come to fruition. It can happen. [3:01:18, 3:01:19]: We can't b [3:01:20, 3:01:22]: My biggest concern is here. [3:01:22, 3:01:24]: Із данs [3:01:25, 3:01:30]: The concerns and conditions have all been satisfied. [3:01:30, 3:01:35]: with this. I didn't talk to the developer one time because I leave that to the district. [3:01:36, 3:01:37]: Um [3:01:37, 3:01:39]: Uh who whoever's over whatever district. [3:01:40, 3:01:41]: When development is coming to the area. [3:01:43, 3:01:44]: But when you have [3:01:45, 3:01:49]: Conditions asked for and they're done. [3:01:50, 3:01:53]: It handcuffs us, it handcuffs me. [3:01:54, 3:01:55]: And making a decision. [3:01:56, 3:01:59]: Будис бюстин ассві. [3:02:01, 3:02:11]: You don't add water and something happen, but if you're doing something in the right way, if you want speed bumps and I think it's sixty percent of the community or homeowners say they want it, and everything is done to petition. [3:02:12, 3:02:14]: А промісю, і кін хапи. [3:02:16, 3:02:19]: And if you do it the right way, I'm not in your district. [3:02:19, 3:02:22]: Write all of us and say John Blount told a lie. [3:02:24, 3:02:24]: Mm-hmm. [3:02:25, 3:02:31]: But I'm trying to tell you things that you want in your community, if it's done the right way, it happens. [3:02:32, 3:02:43]: But I don't sit with developers if I don't want that development to ask them for any conditions or anything to happen or or any compromises. And that's what I'm I'm dealing with right here. [3:02:45, 3:02:51]: All right. We've had a lot of discussion. Yes. I'm gonna go Mr. Thomas. Go ahead, sir. [3:02:51, 3:02:52]: Thank you. [3:02:52, 3:02:53]: Um [3:02:53, 3:02:59]: I want the the citizen here to know that I I I grew up here in the city of Stockbridge and [3:02:59, 3:03:19]: I know quite a few residents in that area, and you all may know Mrs. I still call her Mrs. Mays. She's Mrs. Cobb, uh, Mr. John Mosley, Mr. Don Gordon. But I've known Mrs. Mays for for many, many, many years. And and I have worked with a number of citizens. [3:03:19, 3:03:31]: in that area uh on many concerns. So I do sympathize uh with this particular neighborhood. And I and I just want to commend you. [3:03:31, 3:03:34]: for doing what you do because [3:03:35, 3:03:39]: This is what I encourage citizens to do all the time. [3:03:39, 3:03:43]: to come forward and let your voices be heard. [3:03:44, 3:03:45]: Because [3:03:45, 3:03:50]: Even though we have just gone into the districts in January. [3:03:51, 3:03:53]: But we represent this whole city. [3:03:55, 3:03:56]: I would [3:03:56, 3:03:57]: I would've you know [3:03:58, 3:04:05]: I don't have a problem in that council person who represent that district to lead that discussion. [3:04:05, 3:04:08]: But I'm concerned about this whole city. [3:04:09, 3:04:18]: And when you all come out as citizens, and like you say, I grew up here, I've heard, you know, you you've been here thirty years, twenty-five years, et cetera. [3:04:18, 3:04:20]: That means a lot to me. [3:04:20, 3:04:28]: That means a lot to me. And so make no mistake and don't be discouraged about not coming. [3:04:28, 3:04:44]: and raising your voice here, signing petitions. I commend y'all continue to do that and and and I hear you. I hear you. Even though it's not my particular district, but we all here have to vote. So [3:04:44, 3:04:46]: I'm about this whole city. [3:04:47, 3:04:54]: I I don't have a fragmented vote. When I vote, I vote for the total city. [3:04:54, 3:04:59]: and what is good for the total city. And what is good for one particular neighborhood. [3:05:00, 3:05:17]: It's good for another neighborhood. So again, I I just want to thank you all for coming and continue to come. Don't shy away, don't hesitate. Whatever that decision is here, you continue to let your voices be heard because that's what you're supposed to do. Because all my life [3:05:17, 3:05:23]: I've I've I've haven't always been on this side. I've been on that side as well. And trust me. [3:05:24, 3:05:26]: My voice was heard and [3:05:26, 3:05:28]: And I just again thank you for coming. [3:05:30, 3:05:46]: A couple of points. I have a couple of comments and it is customary to allow the applicant to respond to some of the concerns now they've heard them. But I did I'm a little I just want to understand something. You s sir, you spoke for the group, but this is the entire family here? [3:05:47, 3:05:52]: No, this is not the entire not the entire family, but this is the family members. [3:05:53, 3:05:54]: Okay. [3:05:56, 3:05:57]: Mm-hmm. [3:05:57, 3:06:07]: I just wanna understand who we're speaking for. Okay, we're gonna we're gonna make this a deception. So could you come back to the podium please? [3:06:12, 3:06:15]: Okay, uh better yet? Okay. Let's we'll stop right there. [3:06:15, 3:06:28]: Do counsel, do you would you like for him to come back and and speak and finish his comments? I'm fine with that. Thank you for asking, Mayor. Yes. Thank you. Go ahead, please, sir. Sir, I just wanna understand. You you you here are you here alone or you sir other people here with you? [3:06:28, 3:06:29]: I [3:06:29, 3:06:49]: I married into the family that owned the property, my wife, Reba, her sister-in-law, her husband, and two of the two of the um children of of another owner, Mr. Ralph Smith, who is deceased, and then there's another member of the family who owned the property. There were four children in the property. And excuse me. [3:06:49, 3:07:09]: They're all scattered throughout Stockbridge, but um they have lived here all their lives. They grew up on that property. Okay. I mean just forever, it seems like. I I just wanted to understand that you know we had the for and against, we had a bunch of people here, but they didn't get up. So you you but you you spoke in in reference to for the family. [3:07:09, 3:07:29]: because we wanted just one presentation. We know it would be a little overwhelming and stuff, but they all support what I said and they all support the sale and the property of this property. And they all support this community. They support what's going on in this community, what's been going on in this community. We appreciate what the council has done as far as fixing roads, traffic concerns, what you're doing down the road here. [3:07:29, 3:07:49]: You know, that the changes, the additions, all of this is important to us because we've lived here or they've lived here all their lives. I've been here for 30 years, you know, just down the street at Man Boulevard. So we've seen a lot of the changes and we appreciate the changes. We understand there's situations when you have changes that we need to [3:07:49, 3:08:09]: To come together as a council, as a community, and fix these changes and grow for us. This is us, this is who we are, this is you who you are. And we all believe in these things together. And to make something like this go forward, we believe is going to be beneficial. But not only is it beneficial to the city as far as financial and more people coming into the city and [3:08:09, 3:08:24]: Going to these new places you propose as far as these businesses that you want to bring into the city that you mentioned. We need people to come in here and be a part of that and support these businesses. But not only that, but it's a legacy to my wife and her family. [3:08:24, 3:08:44]: This is their home. This is where they grew up. Seventy-three years ago, her father bought the property and they've been here ever since. Thank you. I appreciate those uh comments. Uh and sir, thank you very much. What's the other concern, sir? Uh the other the other one I just wanted to say to the gentleman who said I didn't care about the traffic. That's not true. [3:08:44, 3:09:04]: What I said was we couldn't make that determination inside the decision that we were making. I've been on trying to pursue$750 million in improvements since the day I was elected to try to widen every road around here. Unfortunately, we can't widen all of them, and some of them have to be prioritized. [3:09:04, 3:09:24]: But certainly Davis Road should uh go on that list uh in order to prove it and to make it, but we cannot place that burden upon the developer at this particular point. But what I would like to see or hear is it's customary for the applicant to come back up. They've made some uh they've made some [3:09:24, 3:09:35]: some assertions. So uh would you there maybe there's some answers for some of those assertions. All right come on back up Mr. um back Brock. I'm sorry, Mr. Brock, please. [3:09:39, 3:09:44]: Mayor, members of the council, thank you for uh allowing me a rebuttal. Uh [3:09:45, 3:09:53]: I was trying to take notes as much as I could during uh the public comment. So I'd like to address uh there's some underlying themes I'd like to address one at a time. [3:09:54, 3:10:14]: Uh the first was notification. Uh Mayor Pro Tem Barber mentioned that as well. Uh why we only identified the properties adjacent to us. That is required by the Stockbridge UDC to send out uh notifications to the property owners uh abutting the property. When we held the community meeting, we followed those same requirements, even though we were not required to hold that meeting or [3:10:14, 3:10:25]: To send out notifications, uh, we had to follow some sort of guidelines of who to notify, otherwise it would have been an arbitrary decision to either expand or contract that uh uh [3:10:25, 3:10:30]: the the properties that were notified. Uh so we did follow some guidelines to that. [3:10:31, 3:10:32]: Uh [3:10:33, 3:10:53]: High density. Uh there was some uh a couple of comments from the public that uh they supported the uh development, but not at high density. Uh they wanted to see medium density. I'd like to reiterate our proposed density is six point one eight units per acre. Uh again, there's a quirk in the UDC that limits medium density for [3:10:53, 3:11:06]: From two to three point six, and then there's a gap until six. In order to drop that to just below six units per acre, we would drop from 170 to 165 units. That's that's a drop of five units. Uh in our uh [3:11:08, 3:11:28]: Revisiting a re redesign of the project throughout uh this process since last August, last October, when we submit these applications. We have taken a very sharp look at how we can reduce the units, and that's how we've come to the 170 that we're at tonight. We're not asking asking to max out the density of the [3:11:28, 3:11:39]: Development at 16 units per acre or anything even close to that. We're at the very bottom limit of the high density residential. Um, and that again is just due to the quirk uh of how the [3:11:39, 3:11:42]: Comprehensive plane defines high density, medium density, residential. [3:11:44, 3:12:04]: Uh traffic improvements and also uh the request to postpone this meeting. Um these kind of go hand in hand. There's a number of uh comments regarding the improvement of the intersection of Davis and Shields Road. Again, that is a system improvement. Uh as it was noted, uh these uh uh [3:12:04, 3:12:24]: Issues have been present in the past long before we submitted this application, long before we've uh came along for this development. It is an existing problem with the community, but it's something that the city must handle. It is a system improvement. We can control what's in front of our property. We are improving Davis Road in front of our property. [3:12:24, 3:12:33]: We're adding a left turn lane, we're adding uh deacceleration lanes to facilitate traffic movement along the front edge of our property, but we cannot we have no authority to [3:12:33, 3:12:35]: uh improve anything outside of that. [3:12:37, 3:12:37]: Uh [3:12:39, 3:12:59]: Some of the other uh reasons that were brought up uh uh with these traffic improvements, Mayor Pro Tem Bar uh Barber mentioned that she wanted a commitment from this from the city on some of these system improvements uh uh so that in the future these these issues are corrected and asked us to postpone in order to make a decision on that. Uh [3:12:59, 3:13:19]: She also asked us to postpone while the city looks at the uh rewriting of the comprehensive uh plan. Both those uh asks are very long-term. Uh staff got up earlier and mentioned that the comprehensive plan is at least six to eight months out. I think that's a very conservative estimate. Uh most municipalities. [3:13:19, 3:13:21]: Most jurisdictions take longer than that to the [3:13:21, 3:13:41]: Both draft and adopt a new comprehensive plan update. Uh these traffic improvements are likely more years out. Uh so postponing the meeting for 30 days would not have have solved any of these issues. We've been in talks with the city since August on our design on [3:13:41, 3:14:01]: And what we can do to address some of the concerns that the city has. We feel that we have tried to address all the concerns as best as we can. Other concerns that you've heard tonight came up at the Planning Commission meeting two weeks ago. But again, a lot of those are system improvements that we have no control over. [3:14:01, 3:14:17]: Um so with that, uh the staff has recommended approval of this application, Planning Commission recommended approval of this application. We we recommend that you uh approve as well. Thank you. All right, just your last question, sir. Um Ms. Thompson go ahead, Ms. Thompson. Um [3:14:18, 3:14:26]: I just want to ask this question because it seems that with both sides the issue is density. Um [3:14:27, 3:14:30]: Are the developers willing to [3:14:31, 3:14:36]: from high to medium, i are you are willing to even consider the density issue? [3:14:37, 3:14:53]: I know I know you just spoke on it, but I just wanted to ask this question. Again, it through our redesign of the property, we've dropped it as much as we can uh down to one seventy. Uh in order to get below the six units per acre, we would have to drop it another five units. Um [3:14:54, 3:15:14]: I don't know what that solves for the city. Again, that wouldn't fit us into the medium density residential, which is capped at 3.6 units per acre. Uh, that would not make development of this property feasible. When you say feasible, it's so it's really about finances. Well, the cost that goes into improving the property versus um in the cost of the land versus [3:15:13, 3:15:27]: versus what uh uh we would be able to develop it for. Uh we would not be able to uh market the property uh uh if we were had if we had to drop it down to three point six or two two units per acre. [3:15:28, 3:15:32]: Okay. Well that that that's sort of my concern'cause that's [3:15:32, 3:15:45]: My role here is to try to satisfy the citizen and move the city forward as well. And it seems that both sides will be okay [3:15:46, 3:15:47]: Uh if we could [3:15:48, 3:16:03]: uh do something about the density issue. And so that's sort of where I am. And and maybe Mrs. Cart, maybe that conversation could could go a little deeper with that. [3:16:03, 3:16:08]: This may not be the proper platform to get into that discussion, but [3:16:08, 3:16:10]: If we could [3:16:10, 3:16:14]: compromise on that, I I think we can sort of get this done. [3:16:15, 3:16:35]: I'm um so then I'll be brief. So the comprehensive plan, the reason why we're going through the update this year is because we do realize we do have some issues there that have just been in play the last, you know, five years. We want to make sure that we create a density that is um [3:16:35, 3:16:55]: It more in tune with what the city, what range the city wants to go in, what other cities, our size and type of infrastructure it will go into. And yes, I do agree as a professional planner that having a high density that starts at six units per acre and up leaves you with. [3:16:54, 3:17:14]: Very little to do as far as high density, but then even more so, the medium density only ending at 3.6 units is is a little bit tight and something for us to look at. For clarification, the applicant was required of the Planning Commission to have their meeting with the community. [3:17:14, 3:17:34]: That was a requirement per the Planning Commission. So it it wasn't something they did on their own. It was a requirement to move forward before this hearing. So yes, there are options that the council has. We will work through the changes for the comprehensive plan. [3:17:34, 3:17:45]: over the next six months. That will be adopted by the Planning Commission and the City Council by October of this year, which is required as a state mandate for us. [3:17:46, 3:17:50]: So uh you have the option to cap the density. [3:17:50, 3:17:56]: You have that option because high density goes up to sixteen units. It is at the discretion of the council. [3:17:56, 3:18:05]: to cap it at a certain density, at the requested or another, what whatever you all have the desire to do. And that's how you manage the density piece. [3:18:07, 3:18:10]: Good. I'm I'm gonna make sure Mr. Thomas is done. [3:18:11, 3:18:31]: Am um I I'm still I'm still not at that point because again I I I'm trying to get to a resolution and and and what I fear from the group and both sides is that if we could get to that density issue, the compromise, I I I think we can sort of go forward. But based on what [3:18:31, 3:18:37]: When I'm here and I don't think we're there, okay well we we may have a resolution. [3:18:39, 3:18:44]: M Mayor Ford. Go right here, sir. I w I will yield to to the gentleman. Okay, Mr. Brock. [3:18:45, 3:18:59]: Yes, after uh conferring with uh four star you know, we're immutable if uh this body would like to add a condition to cap the density at six units per acre. Uh that would be what's comparable to what I believe what the city is proposing for medium density under their comprehensive plan rewrite. [3:19:00, 3:19:02]: Okay. So Mayor Ford, so [3:19:02, 3:19:07]: I was gonna say, so if you go six units, what does that give the total amount of units for the for the project? [3:19:09, 3:19:29]: What may have four. 164. All right, go ahead. So I I I wanted to know then what what would the uh citizens saw to be satisfied with that? And I guess I wanted to try to get some vibration from the citizen. Well cause that seemed to be a compromise. [3:19:29, 3:19:49]: see how I could make my vote. Yeah, we t we're getting they're just they're just my position. Okay, got it. I appreciate it. Yes, sir. Well so technically where we at Miss uh Miss Carter, will you come back can we get Miss Carter come back to the podium? Um Bracker. Oh I did see I didn't see you John [3:19:49, 3:19:50]: You talking weight. [3:19:51, 3:19:57]: Go ahead, Ms. Stand by. Mr. stand by. Okay, no problem. Ms. Carter, stay there. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [3:19:57, 3:20:00]: M Ms Carter, so it was at sixteen. [3:20:01, 3:20:14]: It's sixteen is what what was allowed and you and we gotta work on that. And you guys brought it down to six points something. And the reason that they fell into that category is because high density starts at six units to the acre and goes all the way up to sixteen. [3:20:15, 3:20:26]: Where in most jurisdictions it's considered a medium density instead of high density. So if you bring it down to six, then that's the third compromise on how many units you're building. Is that correct? [3:20:27, 3:20:29]: Right. It will be. [3:20:30, 3:20:30]: Yeah. [3:20:32, 3:20:37]: Okay. Sir. So technically the city code says six point one [3:20:39, 3:20:40]: Well how density is a six. [3:20:41, 3:20:54]: Well, it starts at six and goes up to sixteen units, say. So the six point one does fall within high density residential. The six is does the six fall into high density or it does. Uh but what we would likely do is [3:20:54, 3:21:14]: per per the process for the comprehensive plan amendment is look at that and s and probably we would likely cap it at six for medium density and then anything beyond that. So so okay, okay. I'm I was a little confused. So once the change is made, six will actually be medium density? That is a possibility. That's up to the council to approve that we don't look at [3:21:14, 3:21:34]: Be customary to what surrounding jurisdictions are doing. Correct. It would be. So in other words, what you're saying is our high density is really very low compared to the Yes, it's the limit is low. The the top of it is, you know, considerable, but um starting at six for high density. [3:21:34, 3:21:37]: density is pretty low. [3:21:37, 3:21:56]: Okay, so th as Mr. Blount said, so this will be a third cut in the number of units. So they went from what, two fifty two thirty five two thirty five to one hundred seventy that's being presented tonight and now one sixty four if the cap is at the six units to the acre. And you're okay with the cap, sir. Y'all are okay with the cap? [3:21:56, 3:21:57]: Okay. [3:22:00, 3:22:06]: It just to clarify, yeah, six units to the acre. Six units to the acre. However many that comes out to be. Whatever it comes out to be. [3:22:07, 3:22:13]: Which I believe may be one sixty five, but so that's an additional cut. Uh that's an additional cut, right? [3:22:15, 3:22:16]: Okay, I'm done. [3:22:18, 3:22:20]: Ms you just good. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [3:22:20, 3:22:21]: Thank you. [3:22:22, 3:22:24]: Just for public knowledge. [3:22:26, 3:22:30]: This proposal we have to consider it based on [3:22:30, 3:22:31]: A current. [3:22:31, 3:22:33]: Plan, is that correct, Miss Carter? [3:22:35, 3:22:38]: Thank you. If you'll take the microphone because I have a couple of questions. [3:22:38, 3:22:39]: That I need for you to confirm. [3:22:41, 3:22:46]: So one to two units per acre is what's considered low density. That's correct. [3:22:47, 3:22:53]: Two to three point six units is what we consider medium density. Yes. [3:22:55, 3:23:00]: Six to sixteen units per acre is what we consider high density. That's correct. [3:23:02, 3:23:03]: There is a gap. [3:23:03, 3:23:04]: And the gap is [3:23:05, 3:23:06]: Три посев юніт [3:23:07, 3:23:09]: To five point nine юніт про екер. [3:23:10, 3:23:11]: That is our gap. [3:23:12, 3:23:12]: Correct. [3:23:14, 3:23:16]: I want to make sure that the [3:23:17, 3:23:19]: Um developer understands. [3:23:20, 3:23:21]: It's between that gap. [3:23:22, 3:23:23]: Is what [3:23:24, 3:23:25]: The residents would like to see. [3:23:26, 3:23:30]: The three point seven units per acre is on the low end. [3:23:31, 3:23:33]: The five point nine units per acre. [3:23:33, 3:23:34]: Is on the high end. [3:23:35, 3:23:36]: Is the gap. [3:23:37, 3:23:37]: That gap. [3:23:38, 3:23:40]: Is what will satisfy [3:23:40, 3:23:41]: The residents here. [3:23:42, 3:23:44]: We have to consider your application. [3:23:44, 3:23:45]: Based on a current [3:23:46, 3:23:49]: The current plans that we have. [3:23:49, 3:23:53]: Not what staff is gonna bring to us in six, eight months. [3:23:54, 3:23:57]: And I don't want anybody to be confused leaving here. [3:23:58, 3:24:01]: So let's be let's be transparent about what we're doing here. [3:24:02, 3:24:02]: Um [3:24:06, 3:24:10]: The attorney he did not address or maybe I missed it. [3:24:10, 3:24:15]: He didn't address the back end of this development, nor did the [3:24:15, 3:24:20]: Homeowner, they didn't address the back end of this development that is unbable. [3:24:20, 3:24:21]: Is that correct? [3:24:22, 3:24:23]: Miss Carter, are you able to [3:24:25, 3:24:41]: Yes, the the rear of the property, um, the north arrows kinda if you tilt it up, then that's the north side, the northernmost part and what you see on your screen is the westernmost part, which there's a a major portion of the property that cannot be built within. [3:24:41, 3:24:47]: Okay. Can you tell why it cannot be built? Um there's floodplain and state borders. Thank you. [3:24:48, 3:25:05]: One of the other things with the clubhouse, I don't think they addressed the pool. With every new development coming to City Council District 4, I am gonna be asking for Clubhouse and Pool be included. [3:25:05, 3:25:05]: Um [3:25:07, 3:25:09]: He didn't address that. [3:25:09, 3:25:10]: Um [3:25:15, 3:25:21]: I will ask because we know just b it's just the four of us here who'll be voting today. [3:25:21, 3:25:24]: And just based on the conversations we've been having over an hour. [3:25:25, 3:25:28]: We're not gonna get the votes to support [3:25:29, 3:25:39]: Or deny. You don't know that until we take we take the actual vote, Mayor Pro Tem. We'll take an actual vote and then we'll find out for real. Based on the conversations that have been had here. [3:25:39, 3:25:43]: What I'd like to ask is that the developer [3:25:43, 3:25:44]: Um [3:25:44, 3:25:49]: Let's continue the discussions in regards to this proposed development. [3:25:49, 3:25:53]: Again, I support the redevelopment efforts of our city. [3:25:53, 3:25:59]: I just want to make sure that the residents um in the area who are in who will be [3:25:59, 3:26:00]: Impacted. [3:26:00, 3:26:02]: Um have a say so in this. [3:26:03, 3:26:06]: I cannot support it at this point, even with the [3:26:07, 3:26:09]: five unit reduction that you all just [3:26:10, 3:26:11]: Mentioned. [3:26:12, 3:26:13]: Ten. [3:26:13, 3:26:16]: Whatever it I can't support that. I'm sorry. [3:26:17, 3:26:18]: Okay, sir. [3:26:19, 3:26:21]: I'm sorry now? Yeah, good. You d you dumb Miss Marvel. [3:26:22, 3:26:24]: Let me just say this. [3:26:24, 3:26:27]: We started out at two hundred and something. [3:26:28, 3:26:48]: We got almost all the way to where you want to go. We're this close to where you want to go. There's not there's what to go below six, we talk about four or five more units basically, in order to go below six. We're at six. Now they've agreed to come all the way down from [3:26:48, 3:26:53]: from where they were to six at this point. Uh we agreeable with the pool. [3:26:56, 3:27:15]: Yes, we went back af after that was brought up uh last week or uh a few weeks ago we gotta have a pool. I can't vote for none without a pool. Yep. We have I was just gonna say that we went back and looked at our HOA cost, how much that would uh increase and we we can fit that in. We can add a pool. [3:27:17, 3:27:34]: I of this at this at this point it's just like again, we've asked for so much at this point and we've got all the way down to six. We've got a long way to go. But in the interim certainly that doesn't close the conversation, Mayor Pro Tem. The conversation can actually continue. [3:27:35, 3:27:50]: post today, even though i if we do decide to move forward we don't, but it just they I'm with Mayor I'm with Councilman Thomas. They've I I thought that's what the residents heard. I listened to what the residents said. I listened to what you said [3:27:50, 3:27:56]: We've gotten dramatic cuts already. We've gotten another what, nine, ten. How many is that? [3:27:56, 3:28:03]: Five units down to get below six. To get below I'm saying no, I'm saying we're at the six now. We went from one seventy five to one [3:28:04, 3:28:13]: One sixty five. One sixty five. So we just cut one seventy to one sixty five one seventy one seventy to one sixty five. Right. So now we d that got us down to six. [3:28:13, 3:28:16]: It just below six, yeah. Just b just [3:28:16, 3:28:27]: I guess fractions of a whatever ever below six. But it got you to below six. So it's kinda it's like, man, what else can we do? We got the pool. [3:28:28, 3:28:28]: Um [3:28:31, 3:28:51]: Besides no, sir, you're out of line. No, no, you gotta be quiet now. Because you can't talk from back there, sir. Let me say that let me say this as well. We're certainly committed to improving traffic in all of these areas. Certainly, I was went to every one of the meetings where GDOT was concerned in order to get highway four. [3:28:51, 3:29:05]: 42 widen and as a part of Highway 42 being widened, you know where that bottleneck is, right there beside Walmart. The road is actually gonna be moved. It's gonna be moved further to the um [3:29:06, 3:29:07]: Further to the north. [3:29:07, 3:29:20]: away from where that intersection is. So they won't be right there at the traffic light. That's a part of what one of the improvements. So that's one one of the things is gonna happen. The road is going to be moved over to the right hand side. [3:29:20, 3:29:35]: more toward away from that intersection so those two roads aren't close together so it will be easier to come out. I was at the zoning meeting because we asked for ten foot multi-use paths, we asked for new street lights, we asked for new um [3:29:36, 3:29:45]: Pope like the black signal holders that we have here at City Hall, we ask for those too. Those are the things that have gone forward in order to do that. I [3:29:45, 3:29:59]: At this point, I I don't know. I'm I'm I'm gonna le I I think that we should move forward with it at this point. And I you know, I was hesitant as in i but you know when Mayor uh Councilman Thomas said, you know, it's about the whole city. [3:29:59, 3:30:19]: It really is about the whole city. We want to be developer friendly or community business friendly and community friendly. We brought the two sides together. Nobody's ever gonna be happy a hundred and percent with what happens. I know they're not happy with going down to 165. I know y'all are not happy with uh [3:30:19, 3:30:26]: Uh at with one sixty five, but that's what compromise is all about. You gotta meet somewhere in the middle at some point. [3:30:26, 3:30:38]: I'm done. All right, so we pl had plenty of conversations already been noted. So on that note, uh need a motion uh to accept or or reject this um this proposal. [3:30:38, 3:30:39]: I need a motion. [3:30:40, 3:30:47]: Mayor Ford? Yes, Mayor. I'd like to make a motion to um table um this proposal. [3:30:49, 3:30:51]: Okay. Is there a second? [3:30:52, 3:30:53]: I second. [3:30:53, 3:30:56]: All right, it's been a second. All in favor, please indicate. [3:30:57, 3:30:59]: W qu what question do you have, sir? [3:30:59, 3:31:00]: So what to what date? [3:31:03, 3:31:04]: Thirty days. [3:31:07, 3:31:27]: It depends. Um I have to ask'em developers. I need to have a conversation. You can't have'em waiting indefinitely. How within sixty days. I'd like to table this proposal for sixty days to come back to the council um our July council meeting. [3:31:29, 3:31:47]: All right. Second up. Are they okay with that? Let's see if they no, we're in the middle of voting. We can ask for a discussion any time. We're in the middle of voting. I just want to know time out folks, time out. You're asking him to come back up to the podium to see. To ask whether they're okay with what you just asked for. Hold stand by. Stand by [3:31:47, 3:31:52]: We don't need to ask him if it's okay for us to table the item. [3:31:52, 3:31:53]: Stand by. [3:31:54, 3:31:59]: You you let's let's go through this again. You you're you made an amendment to your original proposal. [3:32:00, 3:32:04]: Right? State restates your amo uh amendment. [3:32:04, 3:32:08]: And with the title proposal, make sure we got a second and then we'll go into discussion. [3:32:10, 3:32:13]: Therefore it I'd like to make a motion. [3:32:13, 3:32:15]: To table item number nine. [3:32:16, 3:32:18]: The comprehensive plan amendment case number [3:32:18, 3:32:21]: CP dash two zero two two. [3:32:21, 3:32:22]: Dash zero six. [3:32:22, 3:32:26]: Consideration of a comprehensive plan amendment request [3:32:26, 3:32:30]: to assign the future land use designation of property located [3:32:30, 3:32:32]: At five seven six Davis Road. [3:32:33, 3:32:34]: Parcel. [3:32:34, 3:32:44]: Number S O five O one zero zero two zero zero zero to high density residential to allow for the construction of a town home development. [3:32:46, 3:32:47]: Okay, you have no days in that. [3:32:50, 3:32:54]: To be brought back to the council at our July council meeting. [3:32:56, 3:32:59]: All right. Is there a second to that motion? [3:33:01, 3:33:04]: Is there a second to that motion? [3:33:05, 3:33:07]: I hear no second. That the motion fails. [3:33:08, 3:33:09]: Mr. Alexander, you have something on your mind? [3:33:11, 3:33:31]: I just I I wanna know from Mayor Pro Tem, what is it that you wish to accomplish with the delay? What is it that you hope to accomplish in that time that you're asking for the delay, which you may be entitled to? What is it that you hope to accomplish additionally than what you already have? [3:33:32, 3:33:36]: That's a question for me. Can I answer Mayor Ford? Yes. Yes you can. Okay. [3:33:37, 3:33:39]: As I said at the beginning of the meeting. [3:33:39, 3:33:41]: I would like to allow more time. [3:33:42, 3:33:45]: Тю так вид олада хомор. [3:33:45, 3:33:46]: In the area. [3:33:47, 3:33:50]: So that they are aware of this proposed development. [3:33:51, 3:33:52]: We need their input. [3:33:54, 3:33:57]: І знову реазеновоти. [3:33:57, 3:34:01]: Those homeowners whose properties abut [3:34:01, 3:34:03]: This proposed development. [3:34:04, 3:34:05]: In century oh three [3:34:06, 3:34:10]: Duplex community, only the left side of the community was notified. [3:34:11, 3:34:13]: None of the homes on the right side. [3:34:15, 3:34:16]: So I would like [3:34:17, 3:34:17]: More time. [3:34:18, 3:34:20]: To communicate with those residents. [3:34:20, 3:34:23]: Who live in that area who's gonna be impacted by this. [3:34:24, 3:34:26]: That is a request that I made of the propos. [3:34:26, 3:34:28]: The developer [3:34:28, 3:34:29]: Last week. [3:34:29, 3:34:30]: And at the start of this meeting. [3:34:31, 3:34:40]: Thank you. Sir. Yes, go ahead, Mr. Sir. Let me so you have to understand they don't have to agree to that. That's not required in the code. [3:34:40, 3:34:53]: They um that's what I'm saying to you is that you you you're you they've complied with so many things that we asked for so far, and at this eleventh hour we're throwing up sixty more days to accomplish to accomplish [3:34:54, 3:34:58]: Um, you know, them waiting a little bit more time in order to [3:35:00, 3:35:20]: Inform more residents in the area when they've gone when they've gone above the standard that the city code requires in informing residents. There always can be more residents informed. But they've gone above and beyond that. They even though the the they agreed to have the town hall with the community, which I certainly would have asked. [3:35:20, 3:35:24]: for myself, that certainly wasn't a requirement as well. [3:35:24, 3:35:34]: I don't mind waiting more time if there is a reason to a want so what if more residents come forward and say, you know, we don't wanna that's not gonna change the density count. [3:35:35, 3:35:44]: But if residents come forward and say, We do want it. That's not gonna change the density count. And that may not. Um, I wanna hear concerns of [3:35:45, 3:35:46]: All of the residents [3:35:47, 3:35:50]: actually who live along Davis Road and Shills Road, but I know I'm not gonna get that. [3:35:51, 3:35:59]: There are still some discussions that I want to have with the developer. When you talk about a high density development, [3:35:59, 3:36:03]: I think in terms of multiple entrance and exit points. [3:36:04, 3:36:08]: And I'm not satisfied with what they have proposed. [3:36:08, 3:36:12]: We already know that there's gonna be a traffic build up. [3:36:12, 3:36:13]: At the stop sign. [3:36:14, 3:36:15]: That is misaligned. [3:36:16, 3:36:17]: We already know that. [3:36:17, 3:36:29]: We need multiple entrance and exit points, and I'm not satisfied with what this development or these developers have suggested. [3:36:30, 3:36:35]: And I know one of the entrance and exit points they're relying on um the easement. [3:36:35, 3:36:38]: uh the property owner next door, they may not get it. [3:36:39, 3:36:59]: So I want to continue the conversations with the developer. Again, for the record, I support revitalization and redevelopment of our entire city, but I also support smart growth. Thank you. I need a motion to approve or dery so we can move on to [3:36:59, 3:37:05]: The next topic. I need emotion, folks. We've had plenty of discussion for a long time. Man, let me just say this. [3:37:06, 3:37:06]: Please. [3:37:07, 3:37:08]: We just sat here. [3:37:11, 3:37:16]: Whether they put a pool on this property or not has nothing to do with traffic. [3:37:18, 3:37:31]: But it was just asked for. Yeah. Another condition that was just asked for that has nothing to do with how people go in the property or out the property. This is what I keep saying that bothers me. [3:37:32, 3:37:38]: We keep asking this developer for s for to do something and they say, okay, and now what's the next thing? [3:37:39, 3:37:44]: We just sit here and ask the developer for a pool and he said okay. [3:37:46, 3:37:48]: And now we talk about traffic. [3:37:49, 3:37:51]: А та адо а донґет з процес. [3:37:52, 3:37:54]: I don't get this process. [3:37:55, 3:38:05]: Mayor. I need a motion. Mayor, let me do this. Let me do this. Let me make the motion. I'm gonna make a motion to approve the request. [3:38:06, 3:38:10]: based on the six that we have agreed down to [3:38:11, 3:38:14]: With the condition that the developer continue the discussions. [3:38:15, 3:38:19]: with Mayor Pro Team Barber on her outstanding issues. [3:38:19, 3:38:39]: In order to move forward. So the conversation would not close tonight. They will be required to continue talking with Councilwoman Mayor Pro Tem Barber as well. The pool will be required as one of the conditions to move forward with this development. And I'm with you. [3:38:39, 3:38:43]: Mr. Bond at this point. I'm I I wanted to be so f so badly. [3:38:43, 3:39:03]: Wanted to be able to say the district council member, Council Thomas said, you know, it's about the whole city. And in the end, this is the best compromise for the entire city. Because I certainly don't want it on tape when we've already said fifty times that these these requirements we that that are per common upon the city, we demand [3:39:03, 3:39:10]: And them are the developer. They said no, they should they didn't have to. But I want to go ahead and make that motion to move. [3:39:12, 3:39:20]: Mr. Alexander made a motion. Mr. Blount seconded a motion. I want to make sure that uh I mean uh Madam Clerk, I I hope that you got this correct. [3:39:21, 3:39:22]: New mayor. [3:39:22, 3:39:24]: Okay. Yeah. [3:39:24, 3:39:25]: Go ahead. [3:39:26, 3:39:28]: You good? I'm good, hey. [3:39:29, 3:39:31]: All in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:39:33, 3:39:34]: Opposed. [3:39:36, 3:39:42]: Wait a minute, Thomas Asian? I'm I'm in favor. You're in favor? Okay, so motion of all opposed. [3:39:45, 3:39:45]: Miss Barber? [3:39:47, 3:39:57]: Motion passed. Okay? Let's move on to the next item. The development will go on under the conditions that was stated. [3:39:57, 3:39:58]: All right. [3:39:58, 3:40:01]: Item number ten, rezoning case. By the way. [3:40:01, 3:40:02]: Thank you, everybody. [3:40:02, 3:40:06]: Okay. Can we take a break? Can we take a short break? I gotta use the restroom. [3:40:08, 3:40:28]: No let's we need we uh go ahead go ahead go ahead and use the restroom. We gotta move on. We've been down here this is long enough. Item number ten rezoning case RZ two zero two two two dash zero one consideration rezoning request to assign the zoning district M F R, multiple family residential, to properly located five seventy six Davis Road, parcel [3:40:28, 3:40:32]: S zero five zero one zero zero two zero zero zero [3:40:33, 3:40:47]: To allow for construction of a town home development. Applicant Forester Real Estate Group USA Agent Alex Brock Smith Ramble and Russell LLP. Property located landlock land lot ninety-one of District 12. [3:40:47, 3:40:50]: And it contains twenty seven point six five ekers. [3:40:50, 3:41:10]: To be presented by the community development staff, the planning commission approved this item of four zoning conditions at the April 27, 2023 meeting. Ryan, please. Uh Mayor Ford, most of what I've all I'll be presenting has already been covered in the previous case. We don't have a quorum. We don't have a quorum. All right. Stand by standby to Mr. Alexander and Ms. [3:41:10, 3:41:12]: While we come back. Stand by. [3:41:14, 3:41:16]: This is ridiculous. [3:41:19, 3:41:30]: If you're not for the development, why do you keep asking? But turn your mic off, sir, if you're gonna speak. I I don't care if you hear me this week. If you're not for the development, why you keep asking for [3:41:39, 3:41:41]: Where's our Cena turn? [3:41:41, 3:41:43]: I I thought you was isn't he sitting right down there? [3:41:51, 3:41:55]: Obviously we'll have a at least a a recess now, since we don't have a quorum. [3:41:59, 3:42:03]: We might we don't have a quorum t go ahead until we get a quorum back. [3:42:58, 3:42:59]: Yeah. [3:43:43, 3:43:44]: Yeah. [3:44:14, 3:44:16]: We'll make it sure, man. [3:44:52, 3:44:55]: All right, council. Let's get back together so we can finish this meeting. [3:45:02, 3:45:04]: Mr. Blount, Mr. Alexander, please. [3:45:30, 3:45:34]: Ms. Blount, Ms. Alexander, let's let's come back to the dial so we can get with the meeting here. [3:45:41, 3:45:44]: Madam Clerk, you ready? All right. [3:45:52, 3:46:11]: All right. Mr. Ryan, go ahead with your presentation, sir. Okay. Listen up folks. As I as I m mentioned earlier that most of what I'm about to present has already been discussed. So I'll just do a short presentation. Um on the screen now you have a aerial photo of the subject property. [3:46:14, 3:46:16]: Whoa, that's not even on there. Hold on. My fault. [3:46:28, 3:46:31]: What's going on, Ryan? Trying to get it off the um [3:46:33, 3:46:34]: Uh [3:46:49, 3:46:51]: There you go. That's what you need. Yes sir. Yes sir. Okay. [3:46:52, 3:46:55]: All right, uh on the screen now you see a aerial photo of the pro of the subject property. [3:46:57, 3:46:57]: Yeah. [3:47:04, 3:47:07]: On this screen you see the the the surrounding zoning. [3:47:08, 3:47:10]: Uh on the main road [3:47:10, 3:47:30]: I mean you got rural residential is which is which is represented by the pale yellow, the gold is suburban residential, the rust colored is city center residential, the orange is MHR, the brown is MFR, the light pink is C1, the medium pink is C2, the red is C three, the teal is PUD. [3:47:32, 3:47:35]: uh the case facts uh [3:47:37, 3:47:57]: Property once again, the property is located on the north side of Davis Road, adjacent to States Avenue, a private street and Sunrise Avenue to the west, one block west of Shields Road and Century Court, Central Oaks Court. The property conditions a long, narrow lot which slopes significantly downward in the north, dropping some. [3:47:57, 3:48:06]: 70 feet where an apparent stream and adjacent buffers are located. The current use: there are three single-family residences and a detached barn. [3:48:09, 3:48:15]: The surrounding land uses, you can see it on the map that's on the screen. I've already went through that somewhat. [3:48:18, 3:48:21]: This is the conceptual site plan. [3:48:22, 3:48:23]: Yeah. [3:48:26, 3:48:31]: Conceptual site plan in black and white. And here's the conceptual site plan in color. [3:48:35, 3:48:54]: Uh the the applicant has uh a recommended um traffic impact study. Um the basis of the study basically comes down to the point that there will be a minimum impact on the surrounding com the surrounding community and the date of the project build out is the year the year 2027. [3:48:58, 3:49:00]: It was a rendering of the town homes. [3:49:09, 3:49:10]: Um [3:49:12, 3:49:32]: Staff recommend staff recommends approval with conditions. The first condition is a comprehensive plan amendment. The rezoning shall not be approved unless the applicants requested comprehensive plan amendment via CP20-206 to assign the land use designation of high density residential to the subject properties approved before or assigned. [3:49:32, 3:49:36]: with the approval of RZ20 2207. [3:49:37, 3:49:43]: Condition number two, the variance should uh the rezoning should not be approved unless the applicants requested variance. [3:49:43, 3:50:03]: Via VR 2022-03 to reduce the required minimum front yard setback from 50 feet to 25 feet is approved before or simultaneous simultaneously with the approval of RZ22-07. And condition number three: the proposed townhome development shall be constructed according to the design, which is shown. [3:50:03, 3:50:14]: on the applicant's submitted black and white conceptual plan, uh we might have to amend that if the applicant reduces the density to um by five additional units. So we may have to work on that condition. [3:50:16, 3:50:17]: So staff recommends approval. [3:50:18, 3:50:23]: All right, thank you, Mr. Harrison. Appreciate it, Ryan. Okay, council. Any questions for Ryan at this time? [3:50:26, 3:50:27]: Mr. Barber, go ahead, please. [3:50:27, 3:50:30]: The conceptual site plan. [3:50:30, 3:50:31]: Um [3:50:32, 3:50:38]: This is not at the point where we can make suggestions on building materials that we'd like to see. [3:50:39, 3:50:41]: You can add a condition in your on the motion. [3:50:42, 3:50:43]: Okay. Um [3:50:44, 3:50:51]: But they we have some pretty stringent uh design criteria in the UDC so they'll have to use uh uh primar I mean [3:50:53, 3:50:57]: High quality, high great quality materials to to construct these I like to see stone. [3:50:58, 3:51:02]: Uh okay, you could add that to I mean stone is one pref our recommended um [3:51:02, 3:51:11]: Material building materials anyway. It's a recommendation by staff, but I like to add that as a condition. Okay. For the framework. The requirement. Okay. [3:51:16, 3:51:23]: But um if I may, Mayor. Go ahead. It seems as though the council has already taken a position to override [3:51:24, 3:51:33]: Um my thoughts on this can this project. So I'm going to abstain from this. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. [3:51:34, 3:51:35]: Yes, yes, sir. [3:51:39, 3:51:42]: Once once again, you know, I'm gonna say this. [3:51:43, 3:51:44]: I'm not overriding. [3:51:45, 3:51:47]: Anyone in any district. [3:51:48, 3:51:51]: But either for a project or you're not for a project. [3:51:52, 3:51:54]: And if you're not for it, say you're not for it. [3:51:55, 3:51:59]: Don't continue to set conditions just like one was just set. [3:52:00, 3:52:06]: for brick, but I'm going to abstain. So I'm not trying to override anybody in their districts. [3:52:07, 3:52:09]: For me, I'm just speaking about me. [3:52:10, 3:52:12]: But if you set in conditions. [3:52:13, 3:52:16]: Then that's not overriding you, that's agreeing with you. [3:52:17, 3:52:20]: If they say yes, we'll do it, then I'm agreeing with you. Let's push it forward. [3:52:22, 3:52:25]: I started out by saying I'm letting [3:52:25, 3:52:28]: District four take the lead on this. [3:52:29, 3:52:42]: But if you continue to ask for conditions and they're saying yes, I'm agreeing to let them do what they do because you've asked for conditions. You asked for a pool. You just asked for bricks. [3:52:43, 3:52:49]: If you're not for the project, then leave it alone. Don't say I want all these conditions, but I'm not even gonna vote yes or no. [3:52:50, 3:52:56]: It makes no sense to me. So don't s so I don't want to feel belittled that I'm overriding anybody. [3:52:57, 3:53:06]: I only can be John Blount, but so when it gets so convoluted and we sit in this big conundrum of situations and circumstances, I got to go what you've been asking for. [3:53:07, 3:53:14]: If you say you want the house blue and they and they say, Oh, uh uh, we can play in it blue, then okay, I'm gonna go for it.'Cause they gave you what you want. [3:53:17, 3:53:18]: All right. So um [3:53:20, 3:53:31]: I'd like to respond to that before since that comment was a very good thing. Then we need to keep thinking the reason why I said this council is overriding [3:53:31, 3:53:35]: my thoughts is because I made a motion. I made a motion to [3:53:35, 3:53:36]: Delay. [3:53:36, 3:53:37]: The approval [3:53:38, 3:53:39]: Of the comprehensive plan amendment. [3:53:40, 3:53:41]: But this council. [3:53:41, 3:53:41]: Voted. [3:53:42, 3:53:43]: In support of it. [3:53:43, 3:53:46]: So that's why I'm abstaining from [3:53:46, 3:53:46]: All of it. [3:53:47, 3:53:50]: That doesn't mean that any suggestions that I give. [3:53:51, 3:53:54]: are my own. They are still suggestions [3:53:54, 3:53:58]: and ideas of the residents who will live there. [3:53:58, 3:54:00]: I still have to speak. [3:54:00, 3:54:01]: For them. [3:54:01, 3:54:02]: Thank you. [3:54:02, 3:54:20]: Alright, okay. On that note, uh are there any other comments before we state this ask for the uh this vote here? You gotta do a public hearing or no. I'm oh that's right. See there? See I've been keeping behind this mic so long. All right, public hearing. Uh okay, so we'll open this public hearing back up. [3:54:21, 3:54:25]: And I'm four items four. People four. [3:54:25, 3:54:28]: On the very left hand side, my my left hand side, over here. [3:54:29, 3:54:30]: Four. [3:54:31, 3:54:32]: In the middle, four. [3:54:34, 3:54:35]: All right. [3:54:36, 3:54:39]: Uh you know, I guess I didn't allow you to come up and speak earlier, did I not? [3:54:40, 3:54:46]: Okay, well let me finish you'll get a chance to speak, okay. You y obviously we w we'll do it. Four. Anybody in in the middle, four? [3:54:46, 3:54:48]: Okay, if you cut if [3:54:48, 3:54:52]: If you're coming for, line up over here, okay. Just if if you have no comments or not. [3:54:53, 3:54:53]: Yes or no? [3:54:55, 3:55:00]: He can rest on his comment so far. Okay. Anybody on the right hand side? Four. [3:55:01, 3:55:10]: Seems though I have only one individual, four at this point. All right, uh name and uh address please. Go ahead. [3:55:15, 3:55:35]: Again, Mr. Baird and Council members, my name is Richard Ordonas. I reside at 112 Man Boulevard down the street. I would just like to reiterate that we are for this proposal. It's been in the family for 73 years, but it's going to be a benefit for the community, for the city of Stockbridge, as expressed by [3:55:35, 3:55:43]: Some of the council members. They want to grow it. They want to get the business in here. And we want to have more families come in here and support those businesses and make this a great county. [3:55:44, 3:55:50]: Okay, thank you. Thank you. Public hearing once again against and as far left side, my left side. [3:55:50, 3:55:53]: Lamp right there. A anybody in the middle that's against. [3:55:54, 3:56:02]: Okay. Anybody my far? Right. All right. That's against. All right. Only seeing one. Sir, please. Name and address. [3:56:05, 3:56:25]: Mr. Ford, Mark McFry, 289 Shields Road, Stockbridge, Georgia. I'm against the 25-foot setback. Um, I don't see why our current code should be altered just to put these town homes in. I know I heard what the gentleman had. [3:56:25, 3:56:37]: had said that it would be expensive for them to cut the grass for the homeowners. Um well I cut three acres every week. My neighbor cuts almost seven acres. [3:56:38, 3:56:43]: If these people can afford three hundred thousand dollars, they can afford a HOA and all that other stuff. [3:56:44, 3:56:46]: I don't see why you should give'em [3:56:48, 3:56:51]: a twenty five foot setback when the code says fifty. [3:56:52, 3:56:53]: That's what I got. [3:56:53, 3:56:58]: Okay, appreciate it. Public hearing is now closed. Um uh Mr. Bruck. [3:56:58, 3:57:00]: Mr. Brock, please come on up for it. [3:57:05, 3:57:20]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of the council. Uh again, just for form, my name's Alex Brock with Smith Cambrell Russell, Office Addresses Eleven O Five Peachtree or West Peachtree Street, Atlanta, Georgia. Uh and I'm here on behalf of the applicant four-star uh USA Real Estate Group. Um [3:57:21, 3:57:41]: And I'm not going to spend a lot of time because I think we covered a lot of the issues in depth in the uh last hearing. Uh but I would like to iterate just a few uh legal points and to uh uh uh mention a few things. Uh this property is one of the cities that was just uh annexed into the city and the city adopted its uh zoning earlier tonight. [3:57:41, 3:58:01]: Uh that zoning was a uh uh zoning district of rural residential. Uh we are asking to rezone to multifamily residential to allow this townhome development. Uh as uh Mr. Anderson pointed out earlier tonight, uh it is commiserate with the number of the surrounding uh zoning districts. We have mobile home uh residential to the west. [3:58:01, 3:58:10]: The Pine Hills Mobile Home Park. To the east, we have duplexes along Century Oak Drive zone city center residential. [3:58:10, 3:58:30]: To the north are several single family homes within unincorporated Henry County, which are zoned uh residential agricultural under the Henry County Code. Uh and in addition, there is another uh multifamily residential district uh along uh Davis Road, the Big Oak Villas, which is a um town [3:58:30, 3:58:45]: Home development at a density of nine units per acre. In addition, the the subject property is also located less than one mile east of the commercial node at the intersection of Highway 92 and Highway 138. [3:58:46, 3:59:06]: Uh just to state again this rezoning request is commensurate with the properties that in districts that exist in the area today, uh as well as the uh townhomes will add a mix of housing options uh as a uh stated goal of the uh city's comprehensive plan. We are providing a mix of units, uh both two car and one-car. [3:59:06, 3:59:26]: garages. Um one thing I would like to note on staff's conditions if this uh body so chooses to adopt staff's conditions. I'd like to point out that condition number one is already satisfied uh the approval of the comprehensive plan amendment. Uh so that is a non-condition. Uh we'd ask that to be removed. [3:59:26, 3:59:46]: Uh the site plan, I would ask that it should be constructed in general accordance with the uh plan so named here, so that we may make the changes that were conditioned uh earlier tonight, uh namely adding the pool and the six units per acre density. Um adding the the wording to be in general conformance, I believe, would allow. [3:59:45, 4:00:05]: the flexibility to make those changes without having to come back before this body. And then the last request that I would have is that condition number two, the variance. Uh I request that be heard and considered separately. If there are issues with the variance as this comes up, I would not like to have that on bearing on the comprehensive plan that we already approved as well. [4:00:05, 4:00:10]: well as the rezoning that we hear tonight, uh that should be hold heard on its own merits. [4:00:11, 4:00:23]: Okay, so based on your comments, I'm I'm thinking that the uh motion if it's gonna be approved, you said you mentioned the comprehensive plan amendment should be taken off because we've already done that, and then the site plan [4:00:23, 4:00:43]: uh would have to change to what would we we agree to what we uh motioned and you all agreed to the pool and s uh six units per acre, right? That would have to be part of that and the variance would come off but if there's a pr I guess only variants only come off if there's a concern, I suppose. I get and since we have not heard that yet, um I I'd just like to remove that so we can hear that [4:00:43, 4:00:59]: That on its own merits, uh, because if it is passed with that condition and for some reason the variance is denied, then we are in a legal conundrum of how to satisfy that. Uh since you've just passed the zoning and the comprehensive plan amendment. Okay. Um okay. [4:01:00, 4:01:09]: On that note, Council, you heard that. I don't know what other comments you have, but if we make a motion, I guess those those requested things probably need to be in the motion for our final approval. [4:01:10, 4:01:30]: If that's the case. I I have a question. Go ahead, sir. On the on on the variance piece, are you trying to say you want to come back and have a discussion on that or what are you trying to do with that? No, this it since the city has decided to take these as three separate applications at three separate hearings tonight, we would hear the variance after this. Uh so once you make a motion on that, then we would hear that. [4:01:30, 4:01:32]: the merits of the variance and vote upon that. [4:01:32, 4:01:34]: That's true, it's coming next. That's right. Yes. [4:01:35, 4:01:36]: Yeah. I'm fine with that. [4:01:36, 4:01:36]: No. [4:01:37, 4:01:57]: All right. Yes sir. So uh in essence um you we there was a request made for some brick construction. I certainly do agree with uh there's been a variance of materials uh as well. [4:01:57, 4:02:17]: But there need to be a balance, of course, because this is workforce housing. And the workforce housing would include teachers, firefighters, some of our police officers to be able to purchase a home uh in the city. So uh I'm going to ask what uh we don't want uh [4:02:16, 4:02:36]: The HOA fees are gonna be uh we don't want that to be overly encumbersome on the residents. So uh a percentage of the properties being uh constructed of brick. Uh for a a homeowner who desired that, was that the desire or was it all of them? [4:02:36, 4:02:37]: But [4:02:41, 4:02:42]: Some stone. [4:02:44, 4:02:46]: Some stone uh being the suggestion. [4:02:48, 4:02:50]: Yeah, speak. [4:02:51, 4:02:54]: Yeah, but how do you determine that? Yeah. [4:02:55, 4:03:15]: You want to I would just like to go if I may. Um I would just like to say with our elevations now, we are required to comply with UDC requirements. As as staff can indicated earlier, there are significant architectural requirements for the facade, which include uh uh implementing brick and stone within the facade, so we are accounting for that. [4:03:15, 4:03:17]: What percentage are you proposing? [4:03:18, 4:03:19]: Quick. [4:03:20, 4:03:22]: Come come around, come up to the p podium, please. [4:03:26, 4:03:46]: The front the the front the frontage will have to be made out of brick or stone uh uh m or f uh s can't pronounce the cementus fiber materials. So the whole frontage would have to be made out of those materials. Yeah. And then we have secondary materials. Yeah, I think uh councilwoman Gann always says this too. If homeowners do like a [4:03:46, 4:03:57]: A um a um a choice. Somebody might not want brick. I do want some brick, but everybody might not want it. So you agreeable to that? Some brick. [4:03:58, 4:04:07]: Uh, maybe about y you know, there'll be some options so they could have vinyl. I mean not vin I'm so certainly not vinyl. They could have uh just a craftsman style hole. [4:04:09, 4:04:29]: So is there a recommendation from staff for maybe a percentage of uh brick versus instead of a hundred percent, go down to offer them maybe twenty five percent of the units of the units? They they got the units if you look close to um Mayor, if you might well let Ryan finish. Ryan's gonna answer his question. Are you saying for the total number of units [4:04:29, 4:04:38]: Twenty five percent of the total number of units. But the UDC requires that, I mean, all the units would have to be have a primary material of brick, stone, or cementus fiber. [4:04:39, 4:04:51]: Right, but at the same time we wanna offer homeowners a craftsman style, if they some homers may not desire that. Councilwoman Gann always raises that point. What do you think? Yeah, but Mr. Alexander the thing about that is [4:04:52, 4:04:58]: What if you got a unit here once and the other three don't? You don't have no continuity of the property. [4:05:00, 4:05:01]: You y you see what I'm saying? [4:05:03, 4:05:18]: But uh um on on on the uh could you put the picture? Oh so you oh sorry what you saw. Hold on, hold on, hold on, please. So the requirement is a hundred percent uh I'm okay with that. It what the UDC would outline what is necessary in the first place. [4:05:18, 4:05:24]: And uh also requires a uh 25% brick water tape on the ground. [4:05:28, 4:05:32]: So these are this is a conceptual rendering of a one and two car garage. [4:05:33, 4:05:40]: No, w well we want some full brick fronts on some of'em. That's what I'm saying, not just a water table percentage. [4:05:42, 4:05:46]: So I uh so you're not saying that it requires a hundred percent brick front? [4:05:47, 4:05:47]: Yeah. [4:05:52, 4:05:53]: Boy, Miss Carter. [4:05:54, 4:06:14]: Um the code requires for multifamily residential that the facade have thirty percent brick or stone or combination of each um on all four facades of the building, or in this case it would be either two or three because they're town homes. It would just be the end of the homes. Um and then a secondary [4:06:14, 4:06:32]: material covering remaining can be comprised of one or more of either stucco shake and or cement fiber board. And this is requirement per the code. Okay, well the code's solid. The code's got it all. It's laid out the code's already got it. Already laid it out. Okay. Thank you. [4:06:33, 4:06:53]: All right, Ryan, you need to continue? Uh no sir. Okay. Okay. All right, Mr. Brock, you you gave your uh suggestions for the requirements for uh this motion in a sense. Uh I mentioned I I try to reiterate that particular aspect which you're asking for, and of course the virus piece would be the very next thing coming. [4:06:53, 4:06:59]: [14820.0, 14826.6]: All right. So on that note, Council, I need a motion to accept rezoning case item number ten, please. [4:07:07, 4:07:27]: Mayor. Yes, sir. I want to make a motion to approve the zoning uh with the conditions uh as described and the requirements in the ULDC uh to be approved. Second. Well okay, stand by though I thought part of this process by request uh would be the [4:07:26, 4:07:43]: the variants would come out the variants would come uh uh subsequent to that and then item number one would be removed. Okay. Yes. All right. Mr Blount you second that? Yes. Okay. Mayor I mean um um chair chair [4:07:44, 4:07:45]: City clerk. [4:07:46, 4:07:49]: I I need more water. See clerk, do you understand the motion? Me too. [4:07:50, 4:07:53]: Okay. Okay. Motion was made in a second. All in favor, please indicate. [4:07:54, 4:07:55]: All right. [4:07:56, 4:07:59]: Three zero one. Opposition? Abstaining? [4:08:00, 4:08:20]: I will be abstaining. Okay, got it. So 301, the motion passed. All right. Now we'll move on. Item number eleven, variance case. Uh VR two zero two two two two two two two two two two two two dash zero three. Consideration of variance request and grant variance of property five seventy-six. Davis road partial S05-01. [4:08:20, 4:08:35]: one zero zero two zero zero zero in order to allow for construction of a town home development. Requested variance would reduce the front setback from the requirement of fifty feet to twenty five feet applicant for stir four star for stir. [4:08:36, 4:08:56]: Real Estate Group USA Incorporated Agent Alex Brock of Smith, Ramble, and Russell LLP. Property is located at Landlock 91 District 12, contains 27.635 acres. As presented by the community direct development staff planning commission approved the item with three zoning conditions. [4:08:56, 4:08:59]: April twenty seventh of twenty twenty three. Ryan, please. [4:08:59, 4:09:19]: Okay, uh most of all of the stuff I've s um be going through has already been said, so I'll give a brief synopsis of this case. Um the proposed development, the total number of townhomes will be 170 units on twenty-seven point six three acres, but that has been reduced down to a hundred and sixty-five. [4:09:19, 4:09:21]: Um [4:09:21, 4:09:41]: The site access would include a main entrance plus an emergency access off Davis Road. Internal streets would include a main loop and several cross streets. Sidewalks will be 10 feet. A mail kiosk will be located near the main entrance with on-street parking. The maximum lock covers will be 47.6. [4:09:41, 4:10:01]: 6%, which is less than 50% requirement of the MFR district. Setbacks would be 25 feet in the front with the approved variants tonight. Uh open space, which would include the stream buffer area, and would be 5,600 square feet of landscape public space. Amenities would include a playground, a doll park, [4:10:01, 4:10:09]: Parking, a walking trail, and also the pavilion and pool. Parking would include 662 total spaces. [4:10:09, 4:10:13]: And a stormwater pool will be located the north of the property. [4:10:13, 4:10:16]: Here's the site plan again in in um black and white. [4:10:18, 4:10:21]: Here's the conceptual site plan uh in color. [4:10:24, 4:10:27]: Got a quick question on that. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [4:10:27, 4:10:37]: Where you guys putting the the is the uh trash wh the uh dumpster settings? Or where w where they gonna take the trash? Uh it's gonna be [4:10:39, 4:10:42]: Let me blow this up. I can show you uh [4:10:42, 4:10:46]: You got a clubhouse, I'm assuming it's probably near the clubhouse, I would imagine. [4:10:47, 4:10:53]: Well, I have to admit where I live the d the d dumpster's right near the clubhouse parking lot. I'm just going by what I know, but anyway. [4:10:54, 4:10:56]: No it is No, no, it's a it is right. [4:11:02, 4:11:06]: You still looking Ryan? Is that what you're trying to figure out? Yeah, yes. Mr. Brock, you need to come up you need to come up with the mic? [4:11:09, 4:11:10]: It's larger than me. [4:11:11, 4:11:20]: I believe the question is where the dumpster is located. Wh where the w where are they gonna be able to take the trash to? This would be curbside uh pickup. We don't have a dumpster yes. Oh okay. [4:11:21, 4:11:23]: GFA? Yes. Oh, okay. [4:11:26, 4:11:27]: Yeah. [4:11:30, 4:11:30]: Okay. [4:11:32, 4:11:34]: Once again here's the renderings of the units. [4:11:41, 4:12:01]: Staff analysis um criteria A: whether the subject property has extraordinary and exceptional physical care physical characteristics compared to other properties in the zoning district. Yes, the property is long and narrow, sloping downward by some 70 feet from Davis Road to the rear. Stream buffers are also present at the rear of the property. These factors represent [4:12:01, 4:12:15]: considerable limitations toward the developability of the property in general, as well as the developer's ability to create a reasonable site plan with townhome lots that are similar size to ones that are found in other townhomes development. [4:12:15, 4:12:35]: Criterion B whether literal interpretation of the UDC would deprive the applicant of rights that are commonly enjoyed by owners of other properties in the same zoning district. The answer is yes. The applicant may be deprived of the ability to develop a townhome community with lots that are are similar size to those which are found in other MFR districts. [4:12:35, 4:12:55]: Criteria and C whether the requested variants will give the property owner any special privileges that are denied to other property owners in the zoning in the same zoning district. No special privileges would be given to the property owner. The denial of the variance will force the developer to comply with the standards, which would be unfair and create an unnecessary hardship to the property. [4:12:55, 4:13:00]: due to the d difficult physical characteristics of the property. [4:13:02, 4:13:22]: Criteria D. Whether the variance will be consistent with the purposes and intent of the UDC, whether it would be compatible with neighboring uses, and whether it would serve the public welfare. The variance will be consistent with the purpose and intent of the UDC by encouraging the most appropriate use of land and buildings on the subject property. Granting a variance would allow the [4:13:22, 4:13:42]: Development of the property in a mostly residential area which has had little development activity in recent years. The proposed townhome community would be compatible with the other existing residential uses in the area. Criteria E: whether the extraordinary conditions are not the result of actions of the applicant, the physical conditions of the [4:13:42, 4:14:02]: Subject property were not created by the applicant, yet they are limiting limiting the applicant's ability to develop the property into a reasonable use. Criteria F: whether the variance is the minimum relief that would allow the legal use of the land. The developer could still build a townhouse development on the property on the MFR without the variance. [4:14:02, 4:14:15]: However, the developer developer would be significantly constrained in designing a site plan which would allow the construction of a sif s sufficient number of units to be economically viable. [4:14:16, 4:14:28]: G, criteria G. The variance is not a request to permit a use of land, building, or structures that is prohibited in the same zoning district. Townhomes are permitted use within the proposed MFR district. [4:14:31, 4:14:51]: Staff findings and conclusions. As a result of the foregoing analysis, the planning and zoning staff have found that the subject property's physical characteristics substantially limits its developability, and that without the request of errands, it may not be positive, may not be possible to build a sufficient number of townhomes to be economically. [4:14:51, 4:14:57]: economically feasible. Staff recommends approval with conditions. [4:14:59, 4:15:19]: Um condition one has already been satisfied, condition two has already been satisfied, and um condition three the site plan shall be developed with uh according this has to be amended, has to be restated to say that the the number of units will be reduced to 160. [4:15:19, 4:15:25]: six to five units with a pool and a certain percentage of the number of units. Well [4:15:26, 4:15:29]: Would have to be stone. I think that's [4:15:30, 4:15:33]: I think that it still requires sovereignty U D C, I thought. [4:15:33, 4:15:38]: Well yeah, according to the UDC. Okay, yes. So that don't have to be amended and the first two striked out. [4:15:41, 4:15:52]: Because they're they they have already been satisfied. The comprehensive plan has already been approved and the rezoning has already already been approved tonight. So there's no need to include those conditions. [4:15:53, 4:15:58]: This is primarily dealing with the variance only since it is. All right. [4:15:58, 4:16:03]: Council, any questions for Ryan? Yes. Go ahead, please. Um [4:16:05, 4:16:10]: Would I ask to reduce the amount of units that are in the center of this proposed development? [4:16:12, 4:16:16]: If they reduce the amount of units, it would be no need for [4:16:17, 4:16:18]: The variants. [4:16:20, 4:16:22]: Therefore they wouldn't need a [4:16:22, 4:16:26]: variance on the twenty five feet setback as opposed to the fifty feet [4:16:27, 4:16:28]: That is in our code. [4:16:29, 4:16:34]: We wouldn't have to worry about on street parking or them adding additional parking spaces. [4:16:35, 4:16:36]: For on street parking. [4:16:38, 4:16:45]: When Councillor Alexander and I spoke with them a couple of weeks ago, we talked about the location. [4:16:45, 4:16:47]: of the clubhouse and pool. [4:16:48, 4:16:51]: It was agreed that they would relocate the clubhouse in the pool. [4:16:52, 4:16:53]: To the front entrance. [4:16:53, 4:16:54]: of this development. [4:16:55, 4:16:59]: I don't see that this concep conceptual drawing captures that. [4:17:00, 4:17:01]: Nor is it mentioned [4:17:01, 4:17:04]: Anywhere in the conditions by staff. [4:17:05, 4:17:07]: So I'd like to hear from the attorney. [4:17:07, 4:17:08]: For the developer. [4:17:09, 4:17:10]: Regarding that. [4:17:13, 4:17:14]: Ms. Brown, come on, please. [4:17:19, 4:17:26]: All right. Um not going to percent just yet, just to answer Mayor Pro Tem Barber's questions. Uh [4:17:28, 4:17:39]: First of all, uh the request tonight is to reduce the setback from fifty feet to twenty five feet for the individual units. Yes, but my question is in regards to our discussion that we had. [4:17:40, 4:17:50]: Um with the location of the pool and the clubhouse. Yep. To move that to the front of the development. And that that would not affect the setback of the driveways uh themselves. [4:17:50, 4:17:54]: Okay, that's my first question. Can you address that one? I'm sorry. [4:17:55, 4:18:10]: It I that was my answer that if we moved the clubhouse to the front of the neighborhood, it would not necessarily affect the need for a twenty five or reduction to twenty five foot setback for the individual units. I get that. Um [4:18:10, 4:18:16]: My second question was related to the twenty five feet setback variants that you all are requesting. [4:18:17, 4:18:21]: You won't need a variance if you reduce the amount of units that are in the center. [4:18:22, 4:18:23]: of this proposed development. [4:18:24, 4:18:26]: You won't need the variance because you will have [4:18:27, 4:18:27]: Um [4:18:28, 4:18:30]: Enough room for the fifty feet. [4:18:31, 4:18:32]: Fifty feet set back and [4:18:32, 4:18:35]: Residents will be able to park in their driveway. [4:18:35, 4:18:36]: [15516.4, 15518.3]: Four cars in the driveway. [4:18:38, 4:18:50]: In addition to two cars in the garage, as opposed to two cars in the garage and two cars in the driveway and any guests that may appear. [4:18:50, 4:18:52]: We have to park in the стріт. [4:18:52, 4:18:55]: In the designated parking spaces that you all have. [4:18:55, 4:18:57]: А вам то елими. [4:18:57, 4:18:58]: The entire middle of [4:18:59, 4:19:01]: section of units. I think there are five [4:19:02, 4:19:04]: Five buildings that you have. [4:19:04, 4:19:06]: with four or five units per building. [4:19:07, 4:19:08]: Eliminate those. [4:19:09, 4:19:11]: And you won't need a setback. [4:19:11, 4:19:12]: I'm trying to [4:19:12, 4:19:14]: avoid having a [4:19:14, 4:19:16]: Neighborhood where the streets are narrow. [4:19:17, 4:19:20]: Where there's really no room for kids to even play. [4:19:20, 4:19:22]: In the front yard. [4:19:22, 4:19:22]: Or [4:19:23, 4:19:24]: In the streets. [4:19:26, 4:19:27]: That's what I'm trying to eliminate. [4:19:28, 4:19:30]: So my first question again. [4:19:31, 4:19:36]: We agreed that you would move the pool and the clubhouse to the front of this development. [4:19:37, 4:19:46]: That is a condition that I want my councilmates to include in their approval of this variance if that's what they want to move forward with. [4:19:47, 4:19:50]: Would you like me to address the first point? [4:19:50, 4:20:05]: Well I don't know. We're talking about variance. I don't know if the this pool and clubhouse piece goes into variance piece here. I mean this is not this is dealing with the variance only. And so I don't know how that what you're asking for goes into this particular uh item right here, right now. [4:20:05, 4:20:13]: See, we're talking about the variance only. So the variance again, I'll say if you remove all the units in the middle, can you put back up your conceptual drawing? [4:20:14, 4:20:15]: So [4:20:15, 4:20:20]: The people here can see what I'm talking about. The public can't see it. [4:20:23, 4:20:28]: those five units or buildings that are in the middle of this development. [4:20:29, 4:20:30]: Six units. [4:20:30, 4:20:32]: That are in the middle of this development. [4:20:33, 4:20:34]: Remove them. [4:20:35, 4:20:36]: So that way [4:20:36, 4:20:38]: There will be no need. [4:20:38, 4:20:44]: for the on street parking that you've added as a result of the setback. [4:20:44, 4:20:45]: That you're requesting. [4:20:46, 4:20:50]: You're asking for a setback because there is no room [4:20:51, 4:20:52]: For people to park. [4:20:52, 4:20:53]: In the driveway. [4:20:54, 4:21:00]: But if you had a fifty foot driveway, you can get cars, four cars in the driveway. [4:21:01, 4:21:05]: Would you like me to address that point? [4:21:07, 4:21:27]: First point I'd like to make is this body just approved the rezoning of the comprehensive plan with the condition that it be limited to six units per acre. Uh a reduction of the six blocks total, uh, which would be I I can't count the number of units, would be far more uh than the five units that we agreed to reduce in the last two hearings. Uh [4:21:27, 4:21:27]: Oh. [4:21:28, 4:21:48]: Secondly, the 25-foot setback, uh, there are other hardships and conditions to that, and it wasn't just the to allow more on-street parking. The on-street parking was an effort to mitigate the impacts of the variants. Uh with shorter driveways, there's less parking in the driveway for other additional cars. That was one concern that made [4:21:48, 4:22:05]: Mayor Pro Tem Barber brought up when we met with her last November, January, uh, in regards to this variance. So we addressed that by adding over ninety on street parking spaces uh to the development to compensate for that loss in driveway parking. [4:22:05, 4:22:06]: Okay. [4:22:07, 4:22:15]: those ninety parking spaces are not directly in front of the homes. In fact [4:22:15, 4:22:16]: Um [4:22:16, 4:22:17]: There is another [4:22:18, 4:22:19]: Plan or [4:22:19, 4:22:21]: drawing that you all provided. [4:22:21, 4:22:28]: that shows the parking areas and slots that you have designated for on street parking. [4:22:28, 4:22:32]: Do you mind sharing that? Can you share it, Miss Carter, if you have it? [4:22:34, 4:22:39]: That shows all of the areas where they've added the on street parking because you can't see it from here. [4:22:39, 4:22:42]: I can try to zoom in and show you where we oops. [4:22:43, 4:22:44]: Left right. [4:22:44, 4:22:46]: Black and white. [4:22:56, 4:22:57]: Is that a little bit better? [4:22:57, 4:22:59]: Is that a little bit better for you all? [4:23:00, 4:23:02]: Are you able to zoom in a little more? [4:23:14, 4:23:21]: Can you point out all of the areas for the on street parking so that those who are here can see? [4:23:22, 4:23:37]: So the the parking is gonna be here, here, and these areas here, and around on the front part where the amenities are, and then on each of the sides of these units. Well that's it because [4:23:37, 4:23:43]: Right, this is the clubhouse. Where's the clubhouse? [4:23:44, 4:23:45]: Mm-hmm. There. [4:23:45, 4:24:05]: Yes. So so yes, they would have and it's it's just considered it's it's off street, off site parking versus what's in front of either the home itself or the garage parking that's provided for each because it each is required to have two car garage for each townhome. So they're uh adding additional [4:24:05, 4:24:14]: parking here for guests and things so that you don't have people locking up the entrance and exits going in and out of the development. [4:24:14, 4:24:18]: This is with a twenty five feet setback, correct? [4:24:20, 4:24:20]: Mm. [4:24:21, 4:24:28]: I I would assume yes, that's what is being proposed, correct? Okay. So they've had to add the on street parking. [4:24:28, 4:24:31]: Because of the twenty five feet setback. [4:24:32, 4:24:34]: If there were a fifty feet set back. [4:24:36, 4:24:38]: The homeowners would be able to accommodate. [4:24:39, 4:24:41]: Адишну карсьве. [4:24:43, 4:24:46]: Meaning they would need the on street parking. [4:24:47, 4:25:01]: So two issues I need for my councilmates to address. And yes, I know this particular item is only addressing the variants, but also address the clubhouse and the pool being relocated to the [4:25:01, 4:25:03]: front entrance of this [4:25:04, 4:25:05]: Proposed development. [4:25:05, 4:25:09]: Councilman Alexander, you and I had that conversation with the developer. [4:25:10, 4:25:11]: Thank you. [4:25:12, 4:25:25]: Do you need to you need to respond to that? Let let me just say this. Now we've had this discussion with the developer. There's an argument to be made because you requested all these additional parking spaces. There might be too many parking spaces in this development. [4:25:26, 4:25:27]: Actually, because [4:25:28, 4:25:39]: You you took away some of the uh uh the ability to add beautification because there's so many parking spaces, but they did that because you requested them to do so. So [4:25:40, 4:26:00]: There's no there's no argument that there's not enough parking. In my dimension, there might be too much because this development exceeds what we did on East Atlanta Road, where you have on-street parking all over the place, plus the two-car garage, plus the garages, plus the driveways. This development has added [4:26:00, 4:26:20]: And ex maybe even more parking than absolutely necessary. I certainly agree that you know the development has has come a long way in where we are now. Now, is there a reason I heard you say that that the pool and everything needs to move to the front? But what is [4:26:20, 4:26:23]: is the substantial reason for moving the pool to the front. [4:26:25, 4:26:44]: Yeah, he's that he's actually addressing you, Mayor Pro Tem. Go ahead, please. Yes. He's asking you a question. What what Well, I believe that was something you brought up during their meeting with the proposed developer when you and I spoke with them, and it was for beautification reasons. Um it was to make it more aesthetically pleasing. [4:26:45, 4:26:48]: For those who will drive through this proposed development. [4:26:49, 4:26:51]: Because it is such a narrow [4:26:51, 4:26:51]: Um [4:26:52, 4:26:52]: Property. [4:26:54, 4:27:01]: You can't see really any landscaping, you're just seeing buildings. Mm-hmm. You can't see any beautifications because it's a lot of [4:27:01, 4:27:02]: Buildings. [4:27:03, 4:27:08]: I mentioned to them early on in every discussion that I've had with this [4:27:08, 4:27:09]: Developer. [4:27:09, 4:27:12]: My concern with on street parking. [4:27:12, 4:27:14]: Their way of mitigating that was [4:27:14, 4:27:16]: Adding on street park. [4:27:16, 4:27:18]: adding additional parking here. [4:27:18, 4:27:21]: I had concerns about the twenty five feet setback. [4:27:22, 4:27:25]: I didn't like the way it looked. [4:27:26, 4:27:30]: They wanted to cram in a whole lot of units here. Two hundred and fifty at that. [4:27:31, 4:27:35]: So the start of my discussions with them was my concern. [4:27:35, 4:27:37]: with the on street parking. [4:27:39, 4:27:42]: So I hope I refreshed your memory. [4:27:43, 4:27:52]: to make it more aesthetically pleasing for those who will want to buy a home there. Let me just say this. I suggested removing some of the parking in the middle. [4:27:52, 4:28:08]: I don't recall seeing moving the pool to the front, but I may m may have misspoken. But the layout here is everything the clubhouse and everything would be in the back laid out with the pool and everything. It seems the perfect layout. And then [4:28:08, 4:28:28]: If you move the pool to the front, you're moving these residents closer back to where the wetlands are and everything to shift everything around. So I certainly may not uh might have misspoke, but my desire was to move some of those parking spaces out of the middle to add some beautification in there. But we've pass that point now. [4:28:28, 4:28:40]: We're dealing with the variant, so I think we still need beautification. So removing some of those parking spaces and adding more beautification. You all have override [4:28:40, 4:28:41]: Everything that I've suggested. [4:28:41, 4:28:43]: So I'll leave this up to you. [4:28:43, 4:28:46]: And I'll explain it to the residents as I speak to them. [4:28:46, 4:28:47]: When I go through [4:28:47, 4:28:54]: The neighborhoods over there. Okay, let I let them know. Let the developer come real real quick. I'm gonna do that real quick. Developer, can you come back to the here? [4:28:55, 4:29:10]: Now, obviously it would be less expensive for you to remove let's say we got the two units in the middle. If you remove that on street parking on the two units on both sides of that, yeah. And you added one of the units as well. [4:29:10, 4:29:30]: No, we're not talking about reducing the units. Talking about reducing the parking spaces so that you can have some beautification in there so residents can drive by something very attractive. Then this you suggested these parking spaces. They weren't there. So I don't think we should have all of these parking spaces so they're driving by all parking spaces. Now [4:29:30, 4:29:41]: I certainly would suggest it would be less expensive for you all to add some beautification in there and take those parking spaces out on both sides of this those two in the middle. [4:29:42, 4:29:43]: Okay. [4:29:43, 4:30:03]: This is a this what the topic really is very a variance is what we need to really vote on. I'm okay with the variance, honest. We need to vote on the variance. Okay. That's what really what we need to talk about. We're kind of getting off subject here. Slightly on what the item is for discussion. We still need to address the concerns that I've raised as well. M Mr. Blount, please. All of them. Mr. Blount. [4:30:04, 4:30:11]: You know, w the way the city is going and we're getting ready to deal with traffic and parking situations and permitting parking. [4:30:11, 4:30:25]: In fact if if we set someone to build a community that that addressed that issue so it wouldn't be an issue for them, that's what this look like. You got parking everywhere. That's that's that's you know, when you [4:30:26, 4:30:29]: You don't you shouldn't have to worry about anybody getting ticketed for Parker. [4:30:30, 4:30:50]: Uh whatever conversations they had, I don't know, and whatever they came up, you know, came up with I don't know. I'm only saying right here was presented to us and was presented to me. It's condition after condition after condition. And the condition for to to to include the varents because of what we were just told by who we hired. [4:30:50, 4:30:53]: to say, hey, it's needed or whatever, I I'm okay with the variance. [4:30:55, 4:30:57]: I mean to get back on the subject. Right. [4:30:59, 4:31:09]: Council, the the uh we're dealing with the variance here. I need a motion if there's no more discussion then we have plenty of discussion. I'm sorry, sir. Yeah, point of order. I [4:31:10, 4:31:11]: We have an interpublic hearing. [4:31:12, 4:31:14]: You're right. You're right. [4:31:15, 4:31:21]: Open the doors for a public hearing. Open it for public hearing. All right, I'm very uh sir, go ahead. [4:31:21, 4:31:25]: Mayor, yes. Uh as the applicant. Yes, as the applic. Go ahead, sir. [4:31:26, 4:31:46]: Uh and just for formality again, my name's Alex Brock, Smith Gimbrel Russell, Office Address 1105 West Peachtree Street. Uh here on behalf of the applicant four-star residential for this variance request. I think we've gone through a lot of these issues in uh detail, but there's a few things I wanted to point out that um staff touched upon and we haven't touched. [4:31:45, 4:32:05]: Upon in the council's earlier questions regarding hardship and and the reasons why we need this variance. As noted, it is a long narrow property. We have looked at trying to redesign this property several times. It should be noted that when we initially submitted this application, we had three variances. We were able to eliminate two of those variances. [4:32:05, 4:32:25]: Uh in the current plan, but one that we were not able to eliminate was the 25-foot setback. Uh, and again, that's due to the long, narrow shape of the property as well as the topography. The site slopes down quite a bit as you proceed to the north away from Davis Road. Uh so it makes layout of this uh [4:32:25, 4:32:27]: uh property uh difficult. [4:32:30, 4:32:30]: Um [4:32:32, 4:32:52]: One item that I would like to address that Mayor Bar Barber brought up is the meeting that we had with her and Councilmember Alexander was the day before or two days before the Planning Commission. Uh at that meeting we said we could not revise the plan because we wouldn't have time before Planning Commission. They would have to hear the plan that was presented. That that body reviewed this plan in [4:32:52, 4:32:58]: In recommended approval, same as staff, uh, for the variants, uh, for the reasons that it gave regarding the hardship. [4:32:58, 4:33:18]: We have tried to mitigate the impacts of the the variants. As I noted, we have included parking throughout the development. Um after tonight, if this uh body so chooses to move forward and approve the variants, we will take a look at adding beautification landscape uh within the the development. Uh we I think we prefer [4:33:18, 4:33:32]: landscaping over parking. But that's something that we can do. We can continue those conversations with planning staff after tonight as we move forward. So we still have to go through land development permit process and in building permits. [4:33:33, 4:33:33]: All right. [4:33:34, 4:33:54]: Um oh and one last point to make is that the homeowners association will be respon responsible for the maintenance of landscaping within the individual lots and units. Uh so the longer driveways would uh necessitate more uh uh maintenance of the landscaping and higher HOA dues as [4:33:54, 4:34:01]: result of that so that's another benefit to decreasing the the uh uh driveways and then [4:34:02, 4:34:22]: Sorry, I misspoke one last statement. Uh we have looked at some of the surrounding jurisdictions: Henry County, uh Clayton County, Rockdale County. Uh also Mayor Pro Tem Barber mentioned a townhome development she meant she visited in Tucker that had the 25-foot um uh setback uh for the lots. Now we'll note that the 50-foot setback for [4:34:22, 4:34:25]: individual lots is out of place. Uh it's uh [4:34:27, 4:34:45]: A uh uh singular requirement uh amongst all those jurisdictions. Most jurisdictions require anywhere from fifteen to uh twenty-five foot setback. So with that, I would request that you follow staff and planning commission's lead to approve this variance. Thank you. [4:34:46, 4:34:47]: On the setback. [4:34:48, 4:34:50]: If it's a twenty five foot setback. [4:34:52, 4:34:54]: For the length of the driveway. [4:34:55, 4:35:06]: We're in these cars bid or a pickup, pulling their driveway and they're hanging in the walkway. No Okay, gotcha. We've designed that so that we could fit a car between the sidewalk and the [4:35:08, 4:35:18]: The building. Public hearing. I'm open up. Anybody four? You'll speak four. This variance changed that's on the table now to be requested. Four in the middle. Uh excuse me on on the left. [4:35:19, 4:35:20]: My left. [4:35:20, 4:35:21]: See none. In the middle. [4:35:23, 4:35:27]: Okay, come on uh come on of s uh center audio here for anyone to fall right. [4:35:28, 4:35:31]: Four for the for the various states. Okay. [4:35:31, 4:35:34]: Just one. Come on, make your state your name and address, please. [4:35:35, 4:35:35]: Four [4:35:36, 4:35:38]: The reference for the Avarics change. [4:35:38, 4:35:47]: My name is Richard Ordonas. I live at 112 Man Boulevard in Stockbridge, Georgia, just a half a mile from here. I've heard a lot of discussion tonight. I've heard a lot of [4:35:48, 4:36:08]: Rediscussion and rehashing and I feel that this project should go through the approval should be positive and approved because it's a benefit to the city, to the residents, and to the future residents and to the future of the city. Thank you. [4:36:08, 4:36:27]: Else uh I mean that's against this particular variance change request. Far left in the middle, my far right, seeing none. Public hearings closed. All right, council. I need a motion to uh to accept the variance chains or disapprove the variance chains. I mean yes ma'am. [4:36:28, 4:36:31]: Um I'd like to make a comment, please. [4:36:32, 4:36:33]: Go ahead. [4:36:34, 4:36:46]: I'm sorry what when I made reference to the um townhome community in Tucker Avery Hills, there are approximately fifty units, so it's low density. [4:36:47, 4:36:50]: And yes, they do have a twenty five feet. [4:36:50, 4:36:51]: said May. [4:36:52, 4:36:53]: That's a low density. [4:36:54, 4:36:56]: What this council has approved [4:36:56, 4:36:57]: is a high density. [4:36:59, 4:37:08]: What is before this council now is whether or not to approve this variance of a twenty-five feet setback of a high density development. [4:37:10, 4:37:11]: I do not agree with it. [4:37:12, 4:37:15]: Видо ні айденси девелмент. [4:37:16, 4:37:16]: With [4:37:17, 4:37:18]: That many units. [4:37:18, 4:37:20]: With a twenty five feet setback. [4:37:22, 4:37:23]: In my district. [4:37:24, 4:37:25]: The residents that were here. [4:37:26, 4:37:27]: They expressed their concerns with it. [4:37:28, 4:37:29]: I've done everything I could. [4:37:30, 4:37:31]: To try to get it [4:37:31, 4:37:35]: Through to these developers that I'm not satisfied or happy. [4:37:35, 4:37:36]: With them. [4:37:36, 4:37:38]: in this proposed development. [4:37:39, 4:37:42]: I've made my concerns known from the very beginning. [4:37:43, 4:37:44]: The parking issue. [4:37:44, 4:37:46]: Was a result of them [4:37:46, 4:37:49]: bringing to this council a proposal. [4:37:49, 4:37:51]: For two hundred and fifty units. [4:37:53, 4:37:54]: On the site. [4:37:56, 4:37:58]: They wanted to develop two hundred and fifty units. [4:37:58, 4:38:03]: On this site, I express to them my concerns about on street parking. [4:38:03, 4:38:05]: Their way of addressing it. [4:38:05, 4:38:06]: Is by adding [4:38:07, 4:38:09]: These parking spaces in the middle. [4:38:10, 4:38:13]: And still asking for a twenty five feet setback. [4:38:13, 4:38:14]: I don't support it. [4:38:15, 4:38:30]: That's all. Thank you. I need a motion um council in reference to the proposal before you for the twenty five for the variance change. Sir, I need to make a motion to approve uh the changes as uh was described earlier. Mr. Alexander, is there a second? [4:38:32, 4:38:35]: Mr. Blount, second that. All in favor, please indicate. [4:38:36, 4:38:47]: All right. Three zero one. You abstain. I will submit. I will oppose. Oh, you actually oppose this variance. I'm opposing. Little me jump. This variance. Thank you. Okay. Three one. Motion passed. [4:38:49, 4:38:50]: All right. [4:38:51, 4:38:52]: Thank you, gentlemen. [4:38:52, 4:38:53]: Thank you everybody. [4:38:56, 4:39:04]: All right. What we have next, new business. Council of consideration to approve the economic development incentives policy framework. Mr. Lance, please. [4:39:04, 4:39:05]: Mm. [4:39:09, 4:39:12]: What's your work for? [4:39:33, 4:39:53]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Kim Alons, Economic Development Director. I'm here before you this evening to uh present the Economic Development Incensus Policy. Uh, just for background information, the policy was presented to council at the last retreat. And last month we also sent the policy for review and [4:39:53, 4:40:13]: And feedback from council. And last week we actually conducted a few council briefings and got some feedback from council. So what is in front of you tonight is a result of those public feedback that we received. As I always like to begin my presentation with the C. [4:40:13, 4:40:33]: City vision and I will uh read that. Our goal is to be the most progressive business and family-oriented community in Metro Atlanta. So before I talk about the policy itself, I want to take some time to talk about what do we mean by when we talk about incentives in economic development. So what is a [4:40:33, 4:40:45]: An incentive. An incentive is a reward intended to induce, incite, or spur action. In economic development, it is defined as [4:40:46, 4:41:06]: something that is used to attract or retain investment within a community or a targeted neighborhood in that community to lowering a firm's cost of doing business. There are several types of incentives. They can be direct financial incentives, tax incentives, indirect financial incentives, non-financial incentives. [4:41:06, 4:41:26]: And finally, special incentives. As you can see in front of you, um we have a few. For example, a direct financial incentive would be something like loans, guarantees, revolving loan funds, something like a tax incentives would be tax exemptions or abatements, and not to go through all of them, but especially [4:41:26, 4:41:42]: Special incentive would be tax increment financing. The policy that is in front of you uses a combination of that. And let me s just say that the only direct and s financial incentive or cash incentive that we're proposing would be a job creation, which I'll go through later. [4:41:43, 4:41:45]: So why should we do this in the first place? [4:41:48, 4:41:53]: The area development magazine, which is a premiere magazine for uh development [4:41:55, 4:42:10]: in our economic development world, they um survey site selectors and corporations annually and they ask them when you're trying to make a business location decision, what factors play into that? And as you can see in front of you [4:42:11, 4:42:31]: Almost every year l state and local incentives as part of the top ten, among other things. Now what we're saying is not that incentives are the reason why someone will make a l location decision, however, it is an important tool to have in our economic development toolbox. [4:42:31, 4:42:33]: And that's why we are in front of you today. [4:42:36, 4:42:38]: So what does the policy do? [4:42:39, 4:42:51]: So basically, the goal of this policy is to outline the policies, processes, and review procedures that we're going to be using to review and offer major incentives in the city. [4:42:51, 4:43:11]: The incentive that we're policy that we're creating is based on our economic development priorities. And we have ten listed in the full policy, but I just have three in front of in this presentation just for context and reference. For example, it is to enhance our cities' competitiveness. It is to increase or encourage mixed use development. [4:43:11, 4:43:15]: It is to create high wage, high value jobs. [4:43:16, 4:43:34]: Now, in terms of how the policy is set up, application and awards will be determined based on metrics that we've established. The metrics are based on our economic development priorities, on the capital investment, the number of jobs that are gonna be created, and the average weekly wage. [4:43:35, 4:43:40]: The maximum score that someone can receive based on these metrics. [4:43:40, 4:43:42]: is one hundred. [4:43:44, 4:43:54]: In order to award the incentives, we created some we created some guidelines based on tiers. For example, in order to get into tier one, you need a minimum score of forty. [4:43:54, 4:43:59]: Tier two, sixty, tier three, eighty, tier four, ninety. [4:44:00, 4:44:02]: The available incentives that we're proposing [4:44:02, 4:44:22]: are tax increment financing, permit and impact fee waivers, business license and occupational tax waivers, water and sewer abatements, job creation incentive, and downtown revolving loan fund. We also have tax abatement. Now some of these tools are tools that are subject to approval either by us or by another entity. The reason why [4:44:22, 4:44:42]: Why we include them is because we wanted this policy to be as comprehensive and as holistic as possible because we have some tools in our toolbox that we can use at the moment. So as we're creating the policy, we're going to make sure that we leave that opportunity as those tools get added into our toolbox. Just to give you an example, we've been talking about creating a TAD, and that is something [4:44:42, 4:44:58]: something that the policy contemplates, although the TAD is not fully implemented yet, because we are working with our partners to make that happen. Now, once that is part of our toolbox, then this policy would cover that. So we're just trying to cover everything that we can with this policy. [4:45:01, 4:45:21]: Just to give you an idea of the possible tax and possible incentives, you have tax abatement. The tax abatement would be provided on a reimbursement basis, and the maximum that someone can get is a 90% reimbursement on the city's portion of the tax, and that is subject to implementation again. And the maximum would be 10 years. [4:45:20, 4:45:40]: Tax increment financing subject to tail implementation would be again on a reimbursement basis with a maximum of 90% reimbursement for a maximum of 10 years. Permit and impact fee waivers would be for certain permit and impact fee waivers, it would be a reduction of up to 50% subject to the tier, and it is a one-time reimbursement. [4:45:41, 4:45:49]: Business and license business license and occupational tax waivers, that would be a maximum of twenty-five thousand up to five years based on the tier. [4:45:49, 4:46:09]: Order and sewer rebates, same idea. Reimbursement basis up to 50% for up to five years, based on the tier. Job creation incentive. As I mentioned before, this would be the only cash incentive that it would be provided. That would be uh based on key industries that the policy outlines for maximum. [4:46:09, 4:46:12]: For a minimum of five jobs rather. [4:46:12, 4:46:28]: And they would be able to receive two thousand per job based on high wage, high value jobs, which is defined in the policy. And that would be an additional bonus if the jobs are located in the downtown area as we're trying to revitalize and redevelop downtown. [4:46:30, 4:46:50]: We also have a state job tax credit, which is based on state designation of an opportunity zone. We included that in the policy. And the requirement from the state is that you create a minimum of two jobs to receive up to$3,500 per job. And that is taken against the company's Georgia tax liability and payroll withholding tax. [4:46:50, 4:46:50]: Yeah. [4:46:51, 4:46:54]: And then finally we have the downtown revolving loan fund, which is a [4:46:54, 4:46:57]: pro is which is a program that is supported by the state [4:46:57, 4:46:59]: Through DCA. [4:46:59, 4:47:10]: And the way that program works is a municipality or a local entity such as the Downtown Development Authority needs to support that project. So that is something we would add in our toolbox as well. [4:47:13, 4:47:15]: How would we process with this? [4:47:16, 4:47:35]: If someone were to uh apply for this, for first of all, we would do what we call a pre-application meeting to make sure that um whatever they're proposing is within our economic development priorities, then the incentive application itself would be submitted to our economic development department for review. [4:47:35, 4:47:38]: Uh staff would review it and evaluate based on [4:47:39, 4:47:43]: a few things. It is important when we talk about incentives to mention that [4:47:44, 4:47:57]: We only give incentives to things that we want to encourage, we want to incite. And as we give incentives, we want to make sure that we're protecting the city, that we don't give more than we receive in terms of benefits. So that's why it's important to conduct [4:47:57, 4:48:17]: a cost benefit analysis, which the city will do as part of that process. And based on on our own analysis, we would make recommendations to the city manager. The city manager then would take a look at the recommendation and decide whether or not this needs to come to city council for final approval. And if council approves then we would move to [4:48:17, 4:48:19]: what we call an implementation. [4:48:20, 4:48:25]: Oh typically it's a developer's agreement or an agreement of some sort with a corporation. [4:48:26, 4:48:28]: I've said a lot of stuff, so [4:48:30, 4:48:35]: To just give give you a case study, um, to take a look at what would that look like in in reality. [4:48:36, 4:48:44]: Let's say, for example, we have a mixed-use development and it's about 300 units. It would include some restaurants and offices. [4:48:44, 4:48:47]: And the total capital investment would be around sixty million. [4:48:47, 4:48:56]: The total jobs would be five, and the salary would be considered higher than the county average. So, based on the key metrics that we have developed. [4:48:56, 4:49:13]: When we look at ED priorities, which is economic development priorities, we determine that, you know, this project would score twenty, the capital investment would score twenty-five, the number of jobs would score five, and the average weekly wage would score fifteen, which would bring the overall score to sixty-five. [4:49:14, 4:49:21]: Now in terms of applicable tier, the a this particular application would be around the second tier. [4:49:21, 4:49:41]: Based on the second tier, this is what the applicant would be eligible for. Now let me say this: just because they're eligible for it does not mean that they're gonna get everything that they requested or everything that they're eligible for, because again, it is all about cost-benefit analysis. So the analysis would determine what can we can give them. [4:49:41, 4:49:47]: them as a municipality. So tax abatement again that would be between 50 to 70 percent. [4:49:47, 4:49:58]: The TIFF credits right now it's non applicable because we don't know what those are. Uh permit and impact fee waivers, they would get a thirty percent re reduction, and that is a one time reduction. [4:49:59, 4:50:19]: Water and sewer rebates, they would get 30% reduction up to three years. Uh business license and tax waivers and occupational tax waivers, they would get up to fifteen thousand, up to three years. And for the job incentives, they would get a thousand for the five jobs for two years, which would be a total of ten thousand dollars. And finally, [4:50:19, 4:50:36]: Uh well the state job tax credits would be subject to state designation, so we don't know what that is yet. Uh and then finally the D the RLF, it's if it's a downtown property, we would be recommending approval for it. So that is just to give you an idea of what in reality something like that could look like. [4:50:38, 4:50:41]: With that being said, I'll be more than happy to take any questions. [4:50:41, 4:51:01]: I thank you for the presentation, uh, Mr. Lott. Council, any questions? Just a comment. Sorry if we had you waiting there, but uh we you're here. I certainly appreciate it. You're certainly on the right track going in the right direction. And if you tuned in, please understand that we're interested in bringing you downtown and [4:51:01, 4:51:21]: And certainly, we certainly have had a business owner use the revolving loan fund for a project in excess of a million dollars downtown. And we're moving through that process right now. Mr. Alonce, is that correct? Yes. So in essence, if you're looking to come to Stockbridge, you secure financing and you can't come up with the [4:51:21, 4:51:36]: the total amount needed, we provide gap financing through the Revolving Loan Fund through the Downtown Development Authority. And we're assisting business owners doing that. And we can assist you if you come and join the Downtown Renaissance. Thank you. [4:51:38, 4:51:40]: Any uh comments from the council? [4:51:41, 4:51:49]: Okay. Not in the motion, go ahead to accept this uh economic development uh incentive policy. [4:51:49, 4:51:55]: So moved. Is there a second? Mr. Alexander um Mr Thomas Secondette, all in favor, please indicate. [4:51:56, 4:52:16]: NASA decision. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for council. Appreciate it. Okay, I have a bunch of announcements and upcoming meetings and events. Um council meetings will be held, uh city council chambers noting some board and committee meetings will be will uh will continue to take place by way of Zoom. Meeting dates and times are subject to change. Please visit the city's website at W [4:52:16, 4:52:36]: www.city of stopbridge.com for meeting invitation link, Facebook page, or contact City Hall offices, 770-389-7900 for any type of updates. Citywide Development Authority meeting, second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. on May 9th. Main Street Advisory Board meetings [4:52:35, 4:52:55]: second Friday of each month, 9 o'clock a.m. in the Welcome Center 130 Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail, which is May 12th. Downtown Development Authority meeting third Tuesday of each month. Welcome Center 130 Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail May 16th. U Council Advisory Committee meeting 630 [4:52:55, 4:53:15]: P.M. third to third Tuesday of each month in the Levi Meeting Room in City Hall, May 16th. Planning Commission meeting 6:30. City Council Chambers fourth Thursday of each month, May 25th. City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, May 30th. City Council meeting second Monday of each month. [4:53:15, 4:53:35]: 6 p.m. in City Hall Chambers, which is June 12th. The U Council meeting is 6:30 PM, second Monday of each month, City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, and June 12th. Upcoming events, join us for Food Truck Tasty Tuesday, 5:30, 8:30, Clark Park Community. [4:53:35, 4:53:38]: Park Clark Community Park. [4:53:38, 4:53:58]: 111 Davis Row, lots of great food activities for everyone. Save the date. Carrie May Hammer Day, Saturday, May 13th. More information, follow contact, Councilman Thomas, 404-247-4972 for more information. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash. Stockbridge centered around education, highlighting the causes. [4:53:58, 4:54:18]: effects of littering and illegal dumping. More information to follow on that as well. Henry for Music H F H F M presents a ASEP violin class and music program in Cotton Indian of Cotton Indian, Red Oak and Fairview Elementary Schools as students from [4:54:18, 4:54:38]: The HFM Youth Orchestra United Join Through Music, Joy Through Music. Spring concert 2023 on Tuesday, May 16th, and uh 2023, of course, 7 p.m. of Merle Manders Conference Center, and we'll feature Mare Po Tam Barber on the violin. RN Veterans and continued salute to all. [4:54:38, 4:54:58]: year long. Please send your pictures to veterans with their name, branch, rank, and years of service to Councilman Thomas. Sends a salute to honor veterans all year long here. Please send them pictures to R Rawls at city of Stockbridge dash G A dot G O V And obviously um Memorial Day weekend's coming up so we'll be honoring our [4:54:58, 4:55:18]: are uh individuals that have passed away based on their service and uh to our country with a memorial day march more information following that as well join Marepro Tam Barber for a free Zuma every Saturday 8 a.m beginning May 6th at Gardner Park on East Atlanta Road. The City of Stockbridge Police Department is conducting a [4:55:18, 4:55:38]: Teddy bear drive to benefit our partners at the Georgia Center for Child Advocacy. New and gently used teddy bears can be left at the police department located 4545 North Henry Boulevard or scan the QR code on the city's website to purchase one from Amazon. Bears are used to comfort children receiving certain children. [4:55:38, 4:55:58]: And receiving services for after significant incidents. And of course, meet the mayor. Um, it's coming up soon as well. I believe it's set from May 30th, I should know that 10 to noon. And then ask me a call, Ros and Raws at 68-678-833-3348. And for my particular comments. [4:55:58, 4:56:18]: I would first like to say happy Mother's Day to you mothers, all right out that are out there. It's this coming weekend, it's Sunday. And for Mother's Day, I want you to know that there are still tickets available to see Maxwell at the Amphitheater Saturday night and/or Sunday night. Matter of fact, you can buy tickets for both nights. Come and see them two nights in a row, right? So come to the amphitheater and enjoy the [4:56:18, 4:56:33]: that uh wonderful sir uh wonderful concert. Uh COVID-19 is still still around us, so make sure you take all your vaccinations and boosters as needed and all the additional things that you need to be healthy. Let's see here. [4:56:34, 4:56:39]: Well th the other comment I'd like to make is that uh believe it or not, the the the Vanessa holiday [4:56:39, 4:56:41]: The c city clerk and I [4:56:41, 4:56:43]: completed the inaugural cohort [4:56:44, 4:57:04]: Uh certification for completion of uh diversity equity inclusion class with GMA just the other day. And so we're part of that initial class, so had a great time learning a lot of things about diversity, equity, inclusion, and things that we want to implement here with the city itself. So uh congratulations to Miss Holiday and for uh [4:57:04, 4:57:23]: uh hanging with me and keeping me awake during the classes. All right. And as far as I know we have no um second session issues or or things to talk about. So on that note, uh council I'd like to ask for a motion to end our council meeting. So moved. Is there a second? Second. All right. All in favor please indicate. [4:57:23, 4:57:25]: God bless y'all. We are done for tonight. [4:57:28, 4:57:29]: Oh Jesus.