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--- title: May 30 2017 Work Session Meeting date: 2017-05-30 source: 2017-05-30_May_30_2017_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:06]: Uh unmarked movement is noted still unlocked out. [0:00:07, 0:00:10]: [120.0, 121.4]: [0:02:01, 0:02:05]: Yeah. [0:02:16, 0:02:18]: Yeah, yeah. [0:02:51, 0:03:07]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [0:03:20, 0:03:31]: [213.3, 215.0]: [0:04:25, 0:04:28]: [270.4, 281.9]: [0:04:44, 0:04:55]: [310.0, 312.6]: [0:07:20, 0:07:30]: Okay, I was going to find the problem as well. [0:07:44, 0:07:45]: [481.2, 482.9]: Here on the right side. [0:08:20, 0:08:20]: Okay. [0:08:21, 0:08:23]: [527.7, 536.3]: Ladies and gentlemen, we apologize for being uh a few moments late. We had some business in um executive session, so [0:08:56, 0:09:00]: We're going to at this time I'm going to um [0:09:01, 0:09:03]: Bring us from executive session. [0:09:03, 0:09:09]: by asking if there's a motion to end the executive session that we just completed. [0:09:09, 0:09:09]: Tro move. [0:09:11, 0:09:15]: Um do I have a second. I have a motion and a second. Do I have um [0:09:15, 0:09:17]: A vote, please. All in favour? [0:09:18, 0:09:19]: Okay. [0:09:20, 0:09:23]: Now then that we're out of uh executive session [0:09:24, 0:09:25]: Um [0:09:26, 0:09:29]: I need a motion that we go back into our regular meeting. [0:09:30, 0:09:31]: Summu. [0:09:31, 0:09:32]: Do I have a second? [0:09:33, 0:09:35]: Okay, all in favor? [0:09:35, 0:09:38]: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, second, I'm sorry, I raised my second. [0:09:40, 0:09:41]: Okay, all in favor. [0:09:42, 0:09:45]: Thank you. Now we're back in our regular meeting. [0:09:47, 0:09:53]: At this time I would like to call our meeting to order. [0:09:55, 0:09:55]: Oh we just did that. [0:09:56, 0:09:59]: No we I don't think we just did we not just compla [0:10:00, 0:10:03]: End our executive session? Correct. Yes. We did that. [0:10:03, 0:10:04]: Mm-hmm. Sorry. [0:10:04, 0:10:12]: This point I'll call our meeting to order and we are delighted tonight to have with us for our invitation. [0:10:12, 0:10:14]: We do need to end [0:10:15, 0:10:20]: Adjourn the special call meeting. That's why that's what I was getting. [0:10:20, 0:10:21]: It's a special call meeting. [0:10:22, 0:10:23]: So moon. [0:10:24, 0:10:25]: I'll second that. [0:10:25, 0:10:26]: All in favor? [0:10:27, 0:10:29]: Oh. Okay. [0:10:29, 0:10:30]: Thought we did that. [0:10:31, 0:10:39]: Um at this time I would like to call our meeting to order and first thing we're gonna do is we're gonna call Bishop Phelps to come down. [0:10:39, 0:10:48]: and bring us our invitation and following the conclusion of that we're going to say the pledge to the American flag. Welcome Bishop Phelps. [0:10:51, 0:11:11]: Greetings to everyone, praise the Lord. Let us pray. Father, we thank you now, God, for this day. We thank you for this hour, God. We even thank you, God, for these leaders, Lord, that you have set in place, God. We ask now, God, that you would give them the wisdom, God, to lead and to govern God, this city. Lord, we ask that you would even give them God [0:11:11, 0:11:31]: God, everything that they need, God. We ask that you would put people in place, God, so that the burden will be light, God. We ask now, God, in the name of Jesus, God, that you would even smile upon the city of Stockbridge, that you would shower down blessings. Lord, we invite you into this meeting on tonight. We ask God that you would give us the wisdom, God, so that we may [0:11:31, 0:11:51]: They be able to be on one accord now, God. We come against Lord every trick, every plot from the pit of hell, God. We bind it right now, God. We know, Lord, that you're not the altar of confusion, God, so we ask that your perfect will be done. Lord God, even in this meeting and even in this city, we give your name praise, we give your name glory, and it's in Jesus' name we pray. And they all [0:11:51, 0:11:53]: Amen. [0:11:54, 0:11:57]: If you would remain standing for the pledge to the flat. [0:11:58, 0:12:11]: But generally just stupid flag up the universe that is the problem. [0:12:16, 0:12:25]: Appreciate uh Bishop Phelps being with us tonight from New Faith uh Christian Church and I'm sure he'd love to have any of you visit if any time. [0:12:25, 0:12:29]: At this time we would uh we'll ask our clerk to have our roll call. [0:12:30, 0:12:41]: Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilman Blount. Present. Mayor Neal. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilwoman Robinson. Present. Mayor Neal, you have a quorum. [0:12:41, 0:12:46]: Thank you. At this time I need a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:12:47, 0:12:48]: Mayor Nill. [0:12:49, 0:12:50]: I move that we adopt the agenda. [0:12:51, 0:12:53]: And do I have a second? I'll second that. [0:12:53, 0:12:55]: Have a motion and a second. [0:12:56, 0:12:57]: All in favour? [0:12:58, 0:12:59]: Thank you. [0:13:00, 0:13:06]: At this time we're going to um review the minutes from um April tenth. [0:13:07, 0:13:08]: April nineteenth. [0:13:08, 0:13:14]: and April twenty fifth and we need a motion to pass the minutes. [0:13:14, 0:13:20]: Mayor Neal, those will be for adoption on june twelfth. Oh sorry, I forgot about that. So sorry. [0:13:20, 0:13:28]: On at this time to public comments, if we have anyone in the audience, do we have anyone sign up for public comments? [0:13:28, 0:13:33]: I do have public comments. Uh the first one is Sultan Mustafa. [0:13:38, 0:13:38]: Okay. [0:13:43, 0:13:45]: Mr. Alfonso Thomas. [0:13:51, 0:13:53]: Each speaker will have three minutes. [0:13:54, 0:13:56]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [0:13:56, 0:13:57]: Amazing. [0:13:57, 0:14:01]: My name is Alfonso Thomas. I reside at one eleven second street. [0:14:01, 0:14:02]: City of Starkbridge. [0:14:03, 0:14:06]: I am the president of the Stockbridge Civic Association. [0:14:07, 0:14:08]: I'm also the chairman [0:14:09, 0:14:11]: of the M L King Historical [0:14:11, 0:14:13]: Preservation Commission [0:14:13, 0:14:14]: That name the [0:14:14, 0:14:16]: M L. King Heritage Trail. [0:14:19, 0:14:20]: I am here. [0:14:21, 0:14:24]: tonight to advocate for the resolution [0:14:25, 0:14:26]: Or the RFP. [0:14:27, 0:14:29]: for the design of the caramel hamburger. [0:14:30, 0:14:32]: Cultural Arts and Enrichment Center. [0:14:34, 0:14:36]: We will protest [0:14:37, 0:14:38]: And oppose. [0:14:39, 0:14:39]: Any [0:14:40, 0:14:41]: main change. [0:14:42, 0:14:44]: to the Caribbean Hamburg Cultural Arts Center. [0:14:45, 0:14:48]: proposed by Councilman Elton Alexander. [0:14:51, 0:14:52]: And any attempt [0:14:53, 0:14:54]: not to rebuild. [0:14:56, 0:15:00]: We encourage all those who receive emails from Mr Alexander [0:15:01, 0:15:02]: Not to support [0:15:03, 0:15:04]: This cowardice [0:15:05, 0:15:05]: [906.4, 909.3]: to hijack this project for moving forward. [0:15:11, 0:15:12]: To remove the name [0:15:13, 0:15:14]: Oh the first [0:15:14, 0:15:16]: And only African American [0:15:17, 0:15:20]: to be named for a municipal building in Henry County. [0:15:20, 0:15:22]: make no sense. [0:15:24, 0:15:26]: We find it very insensitive. [0:15:27, 0:15:28]: to the Hamburg family. [0:15:29, 0:15:31]: And a disrespect [0:15:31, 0:15:32]: To her church. [0:15:33, 0:15:38]: and hundreds of citizens who celebrate her legacy each year. [0:15:39, 0:15:41]: It is also a slap. [0:15:41, 0:15:42]: In the face [0:15:43, 0:15:44]: of those council members [0:15:45, 0:15:46]: Who named [0:15:46, 0:15:48]: and dedicated [0:15:48, 0:15:49]: Discord center. [0:15:50, 0:15:52]: In honor of Caroline Hambert. [0:15:52, 0:15:54]: who owned and operated the first [0:15:55, 0:15:56]: public eatery. [0:15:56, 0:15:59]: in the city of Starkbridge for over sixty years. [0:16:01, 0:16:02]: Our voices [0:16:03, 0:16:06]: will be heard at every council meeting. [0:16:06, 0:16:07]: Excuse me. [0:16:08, 0:16:11]: Our voices would be heard at every council meeting [0:16:11, 0:16:13]: until this process is finalised. [0:16:14, 0:16:16]: Our voices would be heard [0:16:16, 0:16:18]: at the ballot box. [0:16:18, 0:16:26]: And be assured, Mr Alexander, our voices will be heard in twenty nineteen when you are up for re election. Thank you. [0:16:26, 0:16:27]: Point of order. [0:16:32, 0:16:33]: Point of order. [0:16:38, 0:16:46]: We have a policy against personal attack in our public comment and name calling. That is the policy. [0:16:50, 0:16:52]: So noted Mr. Alexander. [0:16:56, 0:16:57]: Madam Clerk, do you have others? [0:16:58, 0:17:00]: Ms. Mildred Reid. [0:17:15, 0:17:19]: My name is Mildred Reed, 530 Creek the Overlook Stuffridge. [0:17:19, 0:17:20]: Uh [0:17:21, 0:17:41]: Greetings, Mayor and Councilpersons. On behalf of the citizens of Stockbridge, I'm encouraging the City Council to work diligently towards moving forward with the redesigning and rebuilding of the Carrie May Hambrick Culture, Arts, and Enrichment Center. It is not necessary at this time for me to reshare Mrs. Hambrick. [0:17:41, 0:17:41]: [1061.6, 1073.9]: history with each of you all as you most of you all know the background and history. We have already been informed that this is the first city building named after an African American in Henry County. [0:17:54, 0:18:09]: My primary purpose for standing here is to help put emphasis on the importance of moving forward with the commitment made by the previous city council members when they voted to name the center after Mrs. Kerry May Hambrick. Thank you. [0:18:18, 0:18:20]: Mr. Gary Williams. [0:18:25, 0:18:28]: I'll start feeling before I get to the mic. I gotta be a loud voice. [0:18:28, 0:18:47]: Come on, come on, come on. Amen. Getting honored God Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I'd share that first off. I just want to share I I came here for a celebration basically'cause uh basically I wanna speak on behalf of uh of uh uh of Miss Hambrick because uh what's being done in the community. I think she represented [0:18:48, 0:18:51]: the uh epitome of being a public servant. [0:18:51, 0:19:11]: She didn't make herself no reputation, just did what she did for for the sake of serving others. And I think the emphasis of recognizing that would be greatly appreciated. And and of course uh in respect to everyone on the board here, you know, I I'm not good on the protocol thing. But but I I just want to share with you. I I think I I'm from Little Town in Ohio. [0:19:11, 0:19:31]: And uh we had we struggled in that little town. Um the Mills brothers, we all heard of that group, they are from the same hometown I'm from in Ohio. And I know they went through a whole lot of changes trying to get them recognized to have it having them even, you know, at the front of the city. We the town I'm from is right off in State seventy five. And it it took forever. [0:19:31, 0:19:34]: Before they were finally recognised. You know, they were world famous. [0:19:35, 0:19:46]: But because of the times and everything, they they they were not properly recognized. And I just think uh Miss Hambrick need to be recognized as just a a symbolic of being a public servant. [0:19:47, 0:19:58]: You know, and I think th the the it's not recognizing the individual, it's r it's recognizing service. The importance of service in the community. When you mentioned K Hambrick [0:19:58, 0:20:03]: I was at the funeral and I I shared that a at the um uh at Trinity United Methodist Church. [0:20:03, 0:20:15]: the importance of someone living their life out to serve others is the emphasis that we want to put forth. And and if we're going I I recommend you have a carry me Hamburg Award for a person every year that does public service. [0:20:16, 0:20:18]: Yeah, but [0:20:19, 0:20:39]: I I'm not on about one minute. All right. Uh all I want to say is please consider the importance of recognizing an individual that gave her life to serving others. That's all I wanted to share with you all this evening. And I I do I did read something from Congressman David Scott and he alluded to the same thing. That at Carrie May's funeral [0:20:39, 0:20:44]: Black and white came. I I was out there serving it i in um dressing trash. [0:20:44, 0:20:52]: And folks would stop me because they thought some dignified individuals at the church, you know, some big name persons. Because catch was blocked. [0:20:52, 0:21:06]: All the way from Spirit Well, if you know the community, it was blocked. The church across the street had to fill up with folks. But just recognize K May Hamburg as a public servant and we need to recognize her in the community. Not a matter of color, but a matter of service, amen? [0:21:13, 0:21:14]: Are there other speakers? [0:21:17, 0:21:19]: Melbourne Thomas Fulton. [0:21:30, 0:21:40]: Mr Mr Fulton. I I will need to note that you are you have two permission from the council. Okay. [0:21:41, 0:21:47]: Good evening and uh I'm my name is Melvin J. Thomas Fulton. I live at one seventeen Rosewall Circle, Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:21:48, 0:21:50]: As the rising of the sun is setting [0:21:50, 0:21:51]: Of the same [0:21:51, 0:21:53]: We remember the action. [0:21:54, 0:21:56]: S the season turned over, we remember that. [0:21:57, 0:21:59]: The spirit of Miss Carra May Hambury. [0:22:00, 0:22:01]: Does not die. [0:22:01, 0:22:07]: It lives forever. You can tear down this building, but the spirit and the legacy will continue to live on. [0:22:08, 0:22:13]: Her caf her cafe was at the center crossroads of Second Avenue. [0:22:13, 0:22:15]: Salmon Avenue and Barrett Street. [0:22:16, 0:22:21]: There not only she cooked, but she also handed out financial uh things and [0:22:22, 0:22:24]: counsellor and things of that sort. [0:22:24, 0:22:40]: being the f a person who is an active person in the community. We don't want to just tear down this building and not recognize her as being an African American woman. We want to continue that legacy, honor that life and legacy of like a true Humaritan. [0:22:40, 0:22:41]: Thank you very much. [0:22:42, 0:22:45]: No uh question. Could I go to the next uh [0:22:46, 0:22:51]: You ha you only have three minutes and you have almost two of those left. [0:22:52, 0:22:54]: I would like to ask who's the maintenance for the park? [0:22:55, 0:23:15]: Memorial Park. Whoever's the maintenance. Because when we were there Sunday, Saturday, uh Monday, the uh there was a big crack in the pavilion floor. It just went all the way up and you can see the dirt is coming up out of the floor. Yes. That's does one know who's supposedly in charge of it? [0:23:15, 0:23:16]: Thank you. [0:23:18, 0:23:30]: Mayor Neal, I did have one individual that called into the city today and wanted her public comment read into the record. This was from Mrs. Susan Cochran O'Neill. [0:23:30, 0:23:34]: I would need the council's permission to do this because she's not here. [0:23:34, 0:23:35]: Okay. [0:23:35, 0:23:37]: Everyone in favor of her reading? [0:23:37, 0:23:52]: Is that okay? Okay, go ahead please. Okay. Um Ms. Neal uh Ms. O'Neill rather excuse me does not support the Carameh Hambrick building being changed from the name Carame Hambrick Cultural Arts Center. [0:23:53, 0:24:13]: Her uncle was Lawrence LB Cochrane, who was the mayor of Stockbridge in nineteen sixty six to nineteen sixty eight. Her cousin, Mr Harold Cochrane, was on the council for over thirty four years, and she wanted it to be known that Carrie May Hambrick was well loved and respected by the East. [0:24:13, 0:24:15]: [1455.6, 1466.9]: And she has contacted all of her family members in Stockbridge to show support for the building being named Carame Hambrick Cultural Art Center. Thank you. [0:24:32, 0:24:40]: With no further public comments we'll move on to old business and uh we'll have council consideration. [0:24:40, 0:24:46]: for an ordinance amendment regarding section three point three oh presented by councilwoman Gantt. [0:24:47, 0:24:51]: Yes, um this ordinance was discussed um previously. [0:24:51, 0:24:54]: In order section section three point three oh, yeah. [0:24:55, 0:24:57]: two point two two two [0:24:57, 0:25:00]: In three point three zero two two two three. [0:25:00, 0:25:05]: Um, under the title approval of contract, this is a [0:25:05, 0:25:10]: ordinance that we're asking for c that I'm asking for council to approve. [0:25:10, 0:25:12]: However, in subsection B [0:25:13, 0:25:20]: of that um approval right now currently just so everyone will understand we have a [0:25:20, 0:25:23]: I believe a fifty thousand dollar spending [0:25:23, 0:25:41]: where the city manager could spend fifty thousand dollars per contract agreement without notifying counsel or getting any type of permission to do so. We are currently um w currently right now the mayor is in the position of um interim city manager and we're [0:25:42, 0:26:02]: right now searching for an interim city manager. Um having said that, this cap amount is larger than it's for really large cities and I've spoken to several other cities and sought c legal counsel as well and I do believe that this amount is way higher [0:26:02, 0:26:05]: And so [0:26:05, 0:26:14]: Um the original proposal was four thousand nine hundred and ninety-nine dollars. However, I'm asking that we amend that to the amount of ten thousand dollars. [0:26:17, 0:26:21]: Okay, you've heard the motion made by Councilman Gantt. Um [0:26:22, 0:26:23]: Is there a second? Second. [0:26:24, 0:26:27]: There's a second is there any discussion? Yes. [0:26:29, 0:26:29]: Mayor. [0:26:31, 0:26:33]: Uh yes, Miss Robinson. Um [0:26:34, 0:26:37]: I guess I want everyone to understand um [0:26:38, 0:26:40]: That amount has always been [0:26:41, 0:26:42]: At the city of Stockbridge. [0:26:43, 0:26:46]: And even w um before Mayor Neal [0:26:46, 0:26:48]: And I just don't want this to look [0:26:48, 0:26:53]: as if we have her now as our mayor that we're taken away [0:26:54, 0:27:00]: funds that is there because temporarily she's our city manager. [0:27:01, 0:27:04]: We had our city manager who just previously left. [0:27:04, 0:27:07]: He had access to that amount. [0:27:07, 0:27:26]: But then when he left, we're now wanting to change because the mayor is the interim for right now to limit that amount. And I want everyone to understand I'm the type of person I'm not gonna go back and forth because there was a change. If that was there. [0:27:26, 0:27:29]: then when we get our new city manager [0:27:30, 0:27:33]: That will be full time, are we gonna change again? [0:27:33, 0:27:52]: So I just don't want it to appear as we're trying to limit our mayor who is currently the interim because of just self. If it's been there since our manager Michael Harris is there three years, he was here with us three years, it was there. [0:27:53, 0:28:13]: And to me the people voted for the mayor. And to me, if they voted, it's up to her to be good steward over the finances. And if she doesn't, the people will know. So I just don't want it to go back and forth on my watch and that's why I'm opposing this. [0:28:13, 0:28:25]: because I don't want the appearance because it has always been that way and I don't feel that just because she's temporarily the city manager that it should change. [0:28:26, 0:28:26]: Port Mayor. [0:28:27, 0:28:28]: Okay. [0:28:28, 0:28:30]: Uh comments from Mr. Blount. [0:28:32, 0:28:36]: As I've always told the citizens here in Stockbridge. [0:28:37, 0:28:39]: I can control only this seat. [0:28:40, 0:28:51]: And then this seat that I was elected in, I do want to see the city being good stewards of the city citizens' money. I want the city of Stockbridge to be ran as a city entity and not a bank. [0:28:53, 0:28:55]: When we decided [0:28:55, 0:28:58]: And when we are voting on this [0:28:58, 0:29:04]: This is to be good stewards of the citizens' money. It has nothing to do with an interim mayor, in my opinion. [0:29:05, 0:29:06]: Because [0:29:06, 0:29:09]: When you can have one person [0:29:10, 0:29:11]: To come in any position [0:29:13, 0:29:17]: And you can just spend forty nine forty nine ninety nine [0:29:18, 0:29:29]: For anybody to do any work and don't ever see anything done or don't get anything done, you can spend almost fifty thousand dollars and get advisory to get advice. [0:29:30, 0:29:33]: You don't have to get anything done because that person will have the right to do it. [0:29:35, 0:29:44]: Every time you want to spend money you can spend almost fifty thousand dollars of the citizens money and that person doesn't have to do anything. [0:29:44, 0:29:51]: This is why I would like to see it in place, because I believe good being good steward is using good wisdom. [0:29:51, 0:29:55]: And I think that good wisdom is connected to being good stewards. [0:29:55, 0:30:01]: So when you say ten thousand dollars, that doesn't say any projects uh projects are not gonna be done. [0:30:01, 0:30:06]: That's only saying if it costs more than ten thousand dollars, come to council to get approval for it. [0:30:07, 0:30:08]: As simple as that. [0:30:08, 0:30:28]: It's not ever saying that nothing's gonna get done. A lot's getting ready to get done in the city of Stockbridge. But we want it to done be done in a way that we're not putting a paycheck in somebody's hand that can potentially not have anything done, whether it's an interim mayor or new city manager, anybody that's holding those elected positions. We as elected officials [0:30:28, 0:30:29]: Yeah. [0:30:29, 0:30:34]: by the city of Scott Bridge has a responsibility and I think this is a responsible move [0:30:34, 0:30:36]: From my chair. [0:30:36, 0:30:37]: Yeah. [0:30:38, 0:30:40]: Are there other comments? Yes. [0:30:40, 0:30:52]: Uh Mr. Alexander. I I want to one hundred percent concur with Councilwoman Robinson. This policy has been in effect um for h h however many years has been in effect. [0:30:53, 0:30:55]: It wasn't a problem. [0:30:55, 0:30:58]: until we change leaderships. [0:30:59, 0:31:19]: I'm the one thing that I do is I respect the will of the voters. I didn't necessarily agree with the mayor or you know, support the mayor in the previous election, but at the same time, uh the will of the voters, they elected the mayor to lead the city. I'm willing to give the mayor uh the benefit of the doubt that she [0:31:19, 0:31:32]: uh is doing the right thing. She ran on a platform of uh fiscal responsibility and uh to understand things get done and I don't believe in working on problems that don't exist. [0:31:32, 0:31:35]: Since when has this been a problem? It hasn't been a problem. [0:31:36, 0:31:56]: Now all of a sudden it's a problem since we changed leadership. Councilwoman Robinson hit it right on the head. I'm not trying to go backwards. I'm trying to move forward. Moving forward means you know empowering the people who are in charge. When we as a council try to micromanage the city manager or we try to micromanage [0:31:56, 0:32:00]: manage the mayor who's acted in that position, it's to the detriment of the city. [0:32:01, 0:32:04]: Sometimes quick decisions need to be made. [0:32:04, 0:32:15]: They need to make those decisions. And I think w this is the one thing when I say I respect the will of the voters and how things happen is that this is the s this is how this works out. [0:32:15, 0:32:35]: Should this policy be violated or should there ever become a problem because there has not been a problem, the voters have an election to make a choice in in November. I want to do everything possible to give the mayor every chance to succeed. I don't want to do anything that would be a detriment to anybody, whether that's [0:32:35, 0:32:37]: Judy Neal in that seat. [0:32:37, 0:32:54]: Whether that's the previous mayor in that seat or the next mayor, that person should be empowered to succeed. Empa empowering that person to succeed simply means giving them the tools necessary in order to do things. Our previous city manager, you know [0:32:54, 0:33:03]: uh followed the policy and he also did some great things with that policy, such as the new exercise equipment that we have over at Reed's Creek Trail. [0:33:03, 0:33:09]: You have to have a psi person in position of integrity and I think we have that. I'm against this. [0:33:10, 0:33:10]: Mayor Neal. [0:33:11, 0:33:31]: Yes, Ms. Gantt. Okay, the playground cripple was not a part of the policy, but I'm not I'm gonna go back from the beginning for the comments just for rebuttal purposes. This is not politics, has nothing to do about Mayor Neal. Hopefully we'll have an in on the city manager very, very soon. Um we have started and began our interview process in fact. [0:33:31, 0:33:51]: That's one of the reasons why we had a special call meeting. We relate today. So it has nothing to do about Mayor Neil because she more than likely will not be in the position of entering city manager very soon. There's no personal attack against Mayor Neal. If you heard me, what you heard was I've researched, I've heard, and we've had [0:33:51, 0:34:03]: had previous incidents. This is for a large city such as the size of City of Atlanta. What we're trying to do is limit the cap amount. Currently the cap amount is at$50,000. [0:34:03, 0:34:08]: That means anything that a city manager wants to do [0:34:08, 0:34:15]: in the city of Stockbridge, contract with whomever they want to contract currently. They don't have to get permission. They can just do it. [0:34:15, 0:34:35]: Not once a month, not twice a month, each individual contract at fifty thousand dollars. We did not this has not always been the case, unfortunately, Councilwoman Robinson. This has not always been the case. David Milrond during his reign or during the term of him, Frank Freeman Matheson Gary changed that amount to the fifty thousand. [0:34:35, 0:34:55]: $50,000. At that time, just for history purposes, so you guys will be aware. At that time, after that, we had Mayor Tim Thompson. We had an interim city manager position available, a city manager position available, and we interviewed quite a few people. There was one particular interim. [0:34:55, 0:35:06]: in a center fit inter on city manager that we did not want council F not to have at that time. And so the mayor did not [0:35:06, 0:35:20]: get that in the city manager, even though he wanted them, but he contracted his services as a consultant. So he still got a way around it because we had a cap at fifty thousand dollars. This has nothing again to do with Mayor Neal. [0:35:20, 0:35:37]: Again, this is all about we're in a position where we'll have an interim city manager. We also are it is a known fact for other cities of our size to have a reduced size in our contract agreements and this is not a political ploy, game, anything. [0:35:38, 0:35:58]: We have ordinances from day one that have needed to be changed. We have started since I've been in office. We've laid new foundations. We've changed things for checks and balances purposes. We've changed our charter to reduce the amount of litigation that we have. And this too is a part of an ordinance change that needed to be changed. [0:35:58, 0:36:00]: It just so happens. It came up. [0:36:00, 0:36:17]: in remembrance of what took place when Mayor Thompson was here. That's the only reason it's up right now is not to attack or to say that Mayor Neal will spend fifty thousand dollars every contract she gets. So this is something a checks and balances for our citizens and to be held financially accountable. [0:36:18, 0:36:20]: Thank you. Is there further discussion? [0:36:21, 0:36:22]: have an ending. [0:36:23, 0:36:27]: Uh Ms. Robinson. Thank you, Mayor. Um I'm gonna end it on this. [0:36:29, 0:36:34]: The city manager reports to this council. Okay. [0:36:36, 0:36:41]: Plain and simple. So spending they report to this council. [0:36:42, 0:36:44]: Pani Przewodnicząca. [0:36:47, 0:36:48]: Are there other comments? [0:36:49, 0:36:52]: If not, all in favor, please raise your hand. [0:36:53, 0:36:55]: All opposed? [0:36:57, 0:36:58]: Eh? Thank you. [0:37:02, 0:37:07]: There will be no clapping or any kind of show of outburst in a city meeting, please. [0:37:11, 0:37:21]: At this time we're gonna move on. Council consideration for policy and procedures for distribution of documents and correspondence to mayor and council. [0:37:21, 0:37:23]: That will be presented by Ms. Gantt. [0:37:25, 0:37:45]: Yes, again um we're laying foundations and we're constantly increasing our population size in addition to the many projects, invitations and things that we have as a council. This proposal and there's nothing behind it, just so you if if it's more of a discussion and something that we are we can ask our [0:37:45, 0:38:05]: our um attorney to draft for us. This is this proposal is in regards to documents and correspondence pertaining to our staff and admin team in regards to any future projects, any projects that are going on, that we receive that information and distribution simultaneously. [0:38:05, 0:38:19]: meaning that mayor and council receives this information at the same time. So if we can put something together in a poly and I believe that all council had already agreed upon this. We had a discussion already um [0:38:19, 0:38:39]: But it's back on the agenda so I'll I'll bring it forward. The purpose of this is for us to receive and communicate as one and therefore any information received from staff and administration in regards to the important projects that are going on, whether they're splots, whether they're invitations, um [0:38:39, 0:38:58]: everything is to receive simultaneously at the same time. Um that allows us to uh there's been some discussion back and forth outside of being up here on the dais whether or not and when we receive information. And so this is just another sex and balance to make sure that we all receive [0:38:58, 0:39:01]: information at the same time from staff and admin. [0:39:02, 0:39:08]: Okay, thank you. Um do I have a m uh second to Ms. Gantt's motion. [0:39:09, 0:39:09]: Thank you. [0:39:10, 0:39:12]: I have a second for Mr. Blount. [0:39:14, 0:39:15]: Uh yes. [0:39:15, 0:39:23]: We have a message from our attorney. I I just want to be clear, is the motion to direct staff to prepare the policy to bring back? [0:39:23, 0:39:24]: Yes. [0:39:24, 0:39:25]: Okay. [0:39:25, 0:39:28]: And we have a second to that. Is there discussion? [0:39:29, 0:39:29]: Yes. [0:39:30, 0:39:32]: I do. Mr. Blount first. [0:39:34, 0:39:38]: I'm glad that this council is is pretty much uh [0:39:39, 0:39:42]: We're cleaning house to what we're trying to do in this city. [0:39:43, 0:39:55]: This city is is almost like a slingshot that's pulled back, getting ready to be let go, and a lot of things are getting ready to happen in this city of Stockbridge. And the citizens are getting ready to see those things. And uh this policy put in place [0:39:56, 0:40:16]: It it gives us an opportunity as a the council is the legislative branch of the city. It gives us a chance to see information. Not in twenty four hours, but gives us a chance to see the information as it comes in because when you have the dynamics that are happening right now in in the city of Stockbridge that are happening with the changing of the guards, different people [0:40:16, 0:40:36]: Changing around, different seats moving. The council needs to have a clear idea of what's going on, what how are we going to formulate different projects that are changing could could change at any time, but to definitely get that information in at the same time. Once again, this is a tool for us as a legislator. [0:40:36, 0:40:56]: legislative branch to have an idea of what's actually going on in the city at the time that is going on so we can make the best possible decision without anything being tainted along the way so that you all can your money and everything that you're putting in this city that you can all enjoy those things without anything [0:40:56, 0:40:56]: Hindernit. [0:40:58, 0:41:00]: Okay. Uh [0:41:00, 0:41:01]: Ms uh Robinson. [0:41:02, 0:41:04]: The question I have is for our attorney. [0:41:04, 0:41:24]: Um when we're talking about the policy and procedures, this is gonna cover staff as well because I mean I want it to be, you know, for the entire body, even just with whatever goes through with council and mayor, I need for it to be staff as well so that way everybody has inf [0:41:24, 0:41:33]: all the information, um not just certain information. So how are you going to address this so it'll be for everyone? [0:41:36, 0:41:43]: Frankly I don't have a good answer for that right now because of the volume of paper and and [0:41:43, 0:41:53]: type of communications. And so what I will need to do is get with your city clerk and and your city manager's office and and talk through that. [0:41:53, 0:42:04]: Um we understand the goal is is really aimed at really the big picture important communications and invitations and things that are addressed to [0:42:04, 0:42:06]: you know, to the city. [0:42:06, 0:42:07]: Uh yeah. [0:42:07, 0:42:16]: I know in in the in the distant past, you know, there were some breakdowns of of that and s and that caused some friction among the mayor and council. [0:42:16, 0:42:36]: And and the intent is to avoid some of that and make sure everyone's on the same page. And so we'll have to get together and bring something back that that makes sense and that's workable and doesn't bombard the entire Marin Council with lots of stuff. That's not the intention, so we'll we'll make that happen. [0:42:36, 0:42:56]: this something that you can bring we can table this and you can bring this back to us because I want to make sure that we're you know doting our off the I's and crossing our T's with this one because I don't want it to be pointed at one particular department or one particular person so that way it covers the entire body here at C [0:42:56, 0:42:57]: [2577.9, 2586.1]: I the intention is to bring back a a draft for y'all to review and and approve. So I I think we can do that in the next couple of weeks. [0:43:07, 0:43:08]: Mayor Neil. [0:43:08, 0:43:09]: Uh okay. [0:43:10, 0:43:30]: Actually, just for clarification purposes, when I say staff and admin team, um some people and uh some people on staff have higher positions than others um that really speak directly with mayor and council. This is not to micromanage, it's not to hear the little things that are it's not I don't want to call it little, but things that are going on [0:43:30, 0:43:50]: on you know constantly back and forth. I did this today, I did that today. It's more so to have an understanding of what projects where we are, um any correspondence, any invitations, any um things that are really going on if we received a contract or a feasibility study or um any [0:43:49, 0:44:05]: Anything that should be given to us simultaneously at that point in time. Um and so uh you know, what that looks like I'll be more than happy to talk with you as well. But it's not to by no means micromanage, it's more so to be aware of what's going on. [0:44:07, 0:44:18]: Okay. Uh any other comments before we vote? Yes. Okay. Mr. Alexander. Ladies and gentlemen, y'all got twenty twenty vision. You can see what's going on up here. [0:44:19, 0:44:26]: These are g this is what is clearly happening right here is all these changes have come place since we changed city managers. [0:44:26, 0:44:30]: All of a sudden we got all these changes that are rolling off right now. [0:44:31, 0:44:35]: You can see the same thing that I can see. The ones tuned in, everybody can see that. [0:44:36, 0:44:47]: We have good leadership in the city. We're headed in the right direction. Let's support their particular leadership, no matter who that is, and make sure that we're getting things done. [0:44:47, 0:44:59]: I personally want to work on actual problems that exist in the city, not passing paperwork around and this is what we should do to pass the paperwork around. [0:44:59, 0:45:15]: We have things we just met last week to uh uh challenge our uh community development director with getting SLOSS projects off the ground. SLOSS projects that we have millions of dollars that need spending to be taken place with. [0:45:15, 0:45:24]: This is exactly what needs to be done in this city, that we need to focus on priorities in the city. [0:45:24, 0:45:38]: Priorities. Priorities. Point of order, Mayor. Point of order. It's we're we were talking about the actual um documents and correspondence to Mayor Count Council for even distribution. [0:45:39, 0:45:40]: Mr Attorney. [0:45:43, 0:45:52]: Her point of order, I presume, uh, questions the uh relevancy of of the statements and it calls for a ruling by the [0:45:52, 0:45:58]: the presiding officer, in in this case, uh the mayor as to whether the comments are relevant to the discussion. [0:46:01, 0:46:06]: Mr. Alexander, could you limit your comments to the discussion? [0:46:07, 0:46:10]: of the item on the agenda. [0:46:10, 0:46:30]: I I believe that uh as I said, you know, these communications and things that are coming forward, I wanna I want these communications to be about important things. Things uh like moving the city forward and uh giving getting a capital improvements project done or a splos project splos project. [0:46:30, 0:46:33]: [2793.8, 2812.1]: I I don't I don't like the fact that we're we we're passing these uh micro I call them micromanaging ordinances in order to affect the process. What this does is it bogs the process down. I'm not totally against what we're talking about doing. I'm totally against the timing because it looks bad. [0:46:53, 0:46:56]: Okay, thank you for your comments. Any other comments? Yes. [0:46:56, 0:46:58]: Mr Blount. [0:46:59, 0:47:05]: One of the things we have here and believe it or not in two thousand and seventeen we have an email system. [0:47:06, 0:47:12]: And how that works is that everybody can get the same thing at the same time and it usually doesn't take that long. [0:47:12, 0:47:21]: And so what happens is with the email system that we all are familiar with, it doesn't bark down anything. When I say again that this council [0:47:21, 0:47:24]: is the legislative branch of this city. [0:47:25, 0:47:30]: And if we don't get the information, how can we make sound decisions that we are elected to do? [0:47:31, 0:47:39]: And that's the only way we're headed to make sound decisions with the information coming to Mayor and Council. [0:47:39, 0:47:44]: in order that we see what needs to be done, in order that we review documents. [0:47:45, 0:47:56]: I'm not gonna say anything in here to hurt or belittle anyone, but we need to see documents as they come in in order to make sound decisions for the citizens. [0:47:59, 0:48:00]: Any other comments? [0:48:02, 0:48:03]: All right. All in favor? [0:48:05, 0:48:06]: Unoppos. [0:48:08, 0:48:09]: All opposed. [0:48:10, 0:48:11]: Okay, thank you. [0:48:12, 0:48:14]: [2900.1, 2913.2]: Okay, uh uh let's move on. The next thing we're gonna do, we're gonna call Mr. Steve Cash forward uh from the Henry Council for Quality Growth. He has a leader in me presentation to present. [0:48:37, 0:48:40]: Madam Mayor, it's formidable. [0:48:43, 0:48:44]: Certainly. [0:48:45, 0:48:46]: Uh [0:48:46, 0:48:56]: I have certainly out here. Well I want to tell you thank you for allowing me on to a speaker about the hour should be now. [0:48:58, 0:49:11]: All right, I'll get right here. But first of all, uh just a a little little history about Stockbridge. I've been here all my life and uh through the sixties sixties here in Henry County, especially in Stockbridge [0:49:11, 0:49:15]: Uh that's when segregation ended. [0:49:15, 0:49:17]: Segregation ends right here in Starkbridge. [0:49:18, 0:49:20]: At that time some of the first [0:49:21, 0:49:25]: People that came over to my elementary school, Stobbridge Elementary School, were the hamburger. [0:49:26, 0:49:27]: With a hammer. [0:49:28, 0:49:29]: Carry my kids. [0:49:29, 0:49:30]: Philip Regina. [0:49:31, 0:49:32]: They came over. [0:49:33, 0:49:44]: And we played basketball for the rest of our lifetimes in school together. Philip Hambrick, not myself. Yeah, you know what? Philip Hambrick invited me over to the Greenfront Cafe [0:49:45, 0:49:51]: For a hamburger. The first hamburger I hadn't thought with it. I had to go to Fort Cart with it. [0:49:51, 0:50:11]: Wonderful hamburger there. So uh you bring back some some special, special members to some some childhood principles. Go back a long way. I also want to thank you for helping me with the council for Quarter Grove spotlight the city of Stockbridge at the State of the County address. I'm I I keep hearing [0:50:11, 0:50:20]: From people regionally, how nice that was, how beautiful the event center was. I want to thank you for allowing that to happen also. So thank you so much. [0:50:20, 0:50:27]: Um back in those elementary days days, I had a teacher teacher, a seventh grade science teacher. [0:50:28, 0:50:30]: Mr Hambrick had that teacher also. [0:50:31, 0:50:35]: Our teacher, her name was Miss Lona Bella Bennett. [0:50:36, 0:50:40]: She happened to live all her life in this house that was torn down right across from here. [0:50:41, 0:50:54]: Right there. Do y'all remember the house there? It was a funeral home. She sh as she died, the funeral home bought it and then it's been taken down. I'm sorry to say that that house probably should have never been taken down. [0:50:55, 0:50:57]: Absolutely. So [0:50:59, 0:51:00]: Miss Bennett. [0:51:01, 0:51:04]: Did a lot for the people of of of Stockbridge. [0:51:05, 0:51:13]: She was born here in Stockbridge in eighteen ninety-nine. She lived to the age of two oh one hundred and five. One hundred and five. [0:51:14, 0:51:20]: She was my teacher in seventh grade. She was already in her late fifties, ready to retire. [0:51:20, 0:51:23]: What an excellent lady she was. She was also an artist. [0:51:24, 0:51:29]: She was also an artist. My family, my mom and dad and my brothers, we were so fond of her. [0:51:30, 0:51:39]: She painted many, many uh oil paintings across across the city. Many people have'em. We have our own collection. You see these right here. [0:51:41, 0:51:43]: This one I don't know. [0:51:43, 0:51:47]: There on her grounds, looking from East Atlanta Road at her house. [0:51:48, 0:51:51]: Okay. This right here. [0:51:51, 0:51:57]: The Presbyterian church on the other side of the bridge. [0:51:58, 0:52:07]: We can see'em. They're they're good. We're good, we're good, we're good. Okay. So she was a founder of that church and she painted the original as she remembered it. [0:52:08, 0:52:26]: So my family and I would be honored if the city of Stockbridge would accept these to put in some place at some period of time in the future, as y'all see appropriate. Thank you. We accept. I don't think we need to vote for that. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Steve. [0:52:29, 0:52:34]: And now he's gonna tell us about leader and knee. [0:52:36, 0:52:48]: practices important and I think from time to time you're hearing about what's happening at Titan elementary schools. Some of you have been over there had two or five elementary schools. [0:52:50, 0:52:55]: This photo right here you'll see on the right hand side you'll see a copy of our book of the records. [0:52:55, 0:53:00]: And uh Councilmember Robinson is on that board of directors. Thank you very much. [0:53:00, 0:53:15]: Um I think it's important that you see who is on there. I think it's important also as you last year so graciously uh awarded the leader in me to Cotton Indian Elementary School five thousand five hundred dollars. [0:53:15, 0:53:19]: And that a part of that agreement was to be accountable to you and the council. [0:53:20, 0:53:28]: every quarter and I've done that. I've given you the uh financial statements, uh the updates on the progress of Cotton Indian. [0:53:28, 0:53:29]: Each time. [0:53:29, 0:53:34]: In your folder you'll see on the right hand side, the first page [0:53:34, 0:53:38]: You'll see the budget that we're working under for this year. [0:53:39, 0:53:40]: for your review. [0:53:41, 0:53:48]: The next page we'll see the revels of seven habits. This is what we're teaching seven hundred children at Cotton Indian. [0:53:48, 0:53:51]: elementary in its only its second year. [0:53:52, 0:54:12]: Now remember what I said second year, and let and I and I'll this will make sense to you, the relevance of that. But you'll see this copy here, the relevance of seven habits. And on the back, you'll see this, the relevance of applying the seven habits to your life as you grow to become a successful citizen. [0:54:12, 0:54:15]: Listen in the twenty uh twenty first century. [0:54:16, 0:54:17]: So important. [0:54:17, 0:54:20]: Now we don't have time to go over this right now. [0:54:22, 0:54:25]: I wanna tell you the state of Cotton Union Elementary School. [0:54:26, 0:54:29]: February uh two years ago, February twenty fifteen [0:54:30, 0:54:31]: uh we started it. [0:54:32, 0:54:38]: uh I'm sorry, twenty sixteen. Later in May Star D cotton in elementary school. Many, many, many children [0:54:39, 0:54:45]: uh attend cottoning elementary school from within the city limits of Stockbridge. So that's important to note also. [0:54:47, 0:54:54]: The poorest performing school in Henry County by far has been Cotton Union Elementary School the last two, three years. [0:54:55, 0:54:57]: Uh it's free launch [0:54:58, 0:55:00]: Uh breakfast. [0:55:00, 0:55:05]: is right at around the seventy percent mark. So ex socio economics has not been good. [0:55:06, 0:55:08]: to cotton in elementary scooter. Regardless. [0:55:09, 0:55:15]: I'm here to tell you that Cotton Indian Elementary School is not using that for an excuse or a reason. [0:55:16, 0:55:17]: One of the highest [0:55:18, 0:55:19]: A discipline [0:55:19, 0:55:23]: occurrences rate in the county was cottoning an element scoop. [0:55:24, 0:55:33]: I'm here to tell you tonight that's been completely reversed. They have nearly no disciplinary of any kind of of any [0:55:33, 0:55:36]: seriousness happening at Cotton Indian Elementary School. [0:55:37, 0:55:38]: So [0:55:38, 0:55:40]: In order for a child to learn [0:55:41, 0:55:42]: They have to behave. [0:55:43, 0:55:46]: So they're behaving at Cotton in Eleven elementary school. [0:55:47, 0:55:51]: And I can't tell you a whole lot of what the academics are gonna look like. [0:55:51, 0:55:52]: In a month or two. [0:55:53, 0:55:55]: But I can tell you [0:55:55, 0:56:00]: While all while nineteen out of twenty six elementary schools [0:56:00, 0:56:04]: in Henry County are scoring D or less [0:56:05, 0:56:06]: On our annual report cards. [0:56:07, 0:56:09]: Cottonion being one of them. [0:56:09, 0:56:11]: You're gonna see [0:56:12, 0:56:14]: Forced, reverse and rising. [0:56:17, 0:56:23]: Does this work? Does the seven habits work applied in a childlike manner to seven hundred children? Yes it does. [0:56:24, 0:56:27]: Yes it does. Just in his first year and a half. [0:56:27, 0:56:39]: You're gonna say, Man, what happened there? We know, we expected the council, we expected this to happen because we researched this, we researched this initiative, we saw what it's doing in other areas. [0:56:40, 0:56:41]: Now [0:56:41, 0:56:47]: And this report right here, this is very important. Some of you might already have it, but this went out a couple of months ago. [0:56:48, 0:57:00]: When we when when the twenty sixteen scores came in and we saw that nothing was happening positive in our school system from year to year. Matter of fact, we were nosed. [0:57:00, 0:57:01]: in our schools. [0:57:02, 0:57:04]: Discipline rights ska ha. [0:57:05, 0:57:06]: We saw that here. [0:57:07, 0:57:08]: So I put it on paper. [0:57:08, 0:57:09]: I did a research. [0:57:11, 0:57:12]: Read all this when you have a chance. [0:57:13, 0:57:14]: Look at [0:57:15, 0:57:16]: How dismal. [0:57:17, 0:57:18]: Education is going in Henry County. [0:57:19, 0:57:30]: Especially in elementary schools. It's so important to reach those young children at an age when their minds, their brains are like sponges. They're taking things in. A lot of times eleventh and twelfth grade it's too late. [0:57:31, 0:57:33]: It's too late. We're just teaching the test. [0:57:34, 0:57:43]: Doing whatever we can to get'em to graduate. But they don't if they don't have everything that needs to come with that, character, self esteem, respect, accountability, if they don't have that [0:57:44, 0:57:45]: There'll be a problem right. [0:57:50, 0:57:51]: I ended on this. [0:57:53, 0:57:55]: I was very disappointed when [0:57:55, 0:57:57]: Franklin Toby people came to us [0:57:58, 0:57:59]: It said, Hey [0:58:00, 0:58:03]: We've got a grant for y'all and I'm pretty sure you can get it. [0:58:03, 0:58:06]: But there's only three things you have to do. [0:58:06, 0:58:12]: Those three things being, you have to be within fifteen miles of a Panda Express. [0:58:13, 0:58:16]: HANA Express is one of the biggest contributors to leader. [0:58:17, 0:58:19]: We are fitting mass. [0:58:20, 0:58:24]: There's a new one in McDonald and then we're twelve miles from uh the one in Mall. [0:58:26, 0:58:28]: You have to do a study, a book study. [0:58:29, 0:58:30]: Take two days. [0:58:31, 0:58:34]: You can use a short version, cliff note version. [0:58:35, 0:58:40]: And you have to be in a cluster system where a school's already operating. [0:58:41, 0:58:42]: You had cotton Indian? [0:58:46, 0:58:50]: This grant was going to come to Stockbridge High School in all feeder schools. [0:58:51, 0:58:52]: under Stobbridge High School. [0:58:54, 0:58:56]: up to one million dollars. [0:58:57, 0:59:00]: to fund Franklin Covey's seven habits [0:59:00, 0:59:01]: for highly affected people. [0:59:02, 0:59:03]: Now, [0:59:03, 0:59:05]: This is where I got a little bit of trouble. [0:59:07, 0:59:10]: I talked to our school officials about this. [0:59:10, 0:59:13]: They were not they they weren't interested. [0:59:15, 0:59:16]: So an instrument. [0:59:16, 0:59:17]: Sometimes we didn't get a call back. [0:59:19, 0:59:20]: Are they satisfied with what they have? [0:59:22, 0:59:29]: The one answer I got from administration, Henry County Board of Education administration, was we're not ready for that. [0:59:30, 0:59:37]: I said, well what does it take to get ready for that? This is what you did at Cotton Indian. You went in through there, you got new administration. [0:59:38, 0:59:40]: You did something, you're accomplishing something. [0:59:41, 0:59:45]: Great things are happening. Why couldn't we get ready in Stockbridge in the north end of the county? [0:59:45, 0:59:47]: for a programme that put us over the top. [0:59:50, 0:59:51]: I don't know. [0:59:52, 0:59:54]: We're going to try again next year. [0:59:54, 0:59:59]: Hopefully I can get some of y'all to to be cheerleaders on that, uh, to our Board of Education when it's time. [1:00:00, 1:00:03]: In November I'm gonna live I'm gonna hope hope to find you there with me. [1:00:04, 1:00:05]: Cheer in our own. [1:00:05, 1:00:07]: Double Haskell. [1:00:07, 1:00:10]: And the feeder schools under it. And that one million dollars that comes with it. [1:00:12, 1:00:14]: No cost. No cost to the taxpayers in the camp. [1:00:15, 1:00:17]: So that puts us here tonight. [1:00:17, 1:00:21]: We are still paying toward Cotton Inn Elementary School. [1:00:22, 1:00:24]: up to a one hundred thousand dollars for leader in me. [1:00:25, 1:00:28]: We are raising it. You'll see what we have on there, you see what we budget. [1:00:28, 1:00:29]: What we owe [1:00:30, 1:00:31]: We've got [1:00:32, 1:00:42]: We're just now at a point in our uh existence that we can apply for grants, large grants, twenty and forty thousand and we're applying for those there, but we still need your help. [1:00:43, 1:00:45]: If you can be kind enough to consider [1:00:45, 1:00:48]: Another fifty five hundred dollars that sponsors one hundred children. [1:00:51, 1:00:52]: This would be great. [1:00:52, 1:00:54]: Again, this is a one [1:00:55, 1:01:04]: time expense, the this hundred thousand dollars is a one time expense. You get'em there, you get'em three years worth of training, the teachers, and it's in there as long as the school board has it there. [1:01:05, 1:01:15]: One time. So I guess that's all I had to say. I appreciate y'all. I appreciate what you're doing in the city of Stockbridge. We are gonna be number one. [1:01:16, 1:01:20]: The city of Stockbridge stone. Let's shine the light. Let's be the light on that hill here. [1:01:20, 1:01:22]: And let's show that we mean business. [1:01:23, 1:01:29]: And the most important thing this might not be politically correct, there are a lot of things, issues going on in our county right now. [1:01:30, 1:01:35]: And it's it it's it's creating a divide. When we need to be doing this, we're doing this. [1:01:35, 1:01:44]: The most important thing, other than things that are going on now, is the education of our children. The future of our county is in these children. [1:01:44, 1:01:45]: Help me. [1:01:45, 1:01:48]: help them to be successful. [1:01:48, 1:01:52]: in contributing citizens in the twenty first century in Henry County. Thank you so much. [1:01:52, 1:01:56]: Thank you so much, Steve. I believe one of our members has a question. [1:01:56, 1:01:56]: Yes. [1:01:58, 1:01:59]: [3719.8, 3720.5]: Um [1:02:01, 1:02:09]: Two things right off the bat. When we first started this over over a year ago, about been about a year and a half. That's right. [1:02:09, 1:02:10]: Um [1:02:11, 1:02:16]: We have I don't know if any other council I haven't seen any reports from this program. [1:02:16, 1:02:21]: Wh where did they come to? What did they come to the mayor's office? [1:02:22, 1:02:31]: The Mayor's off have those those been reported to the city clerk or anything? We've I haven't seen any reports from a year since a year and a half when we when we first came with the leader and me. [1:02:32, 1:02:37]: They were they were emailed in. I should have followed up and made sure each one of you received that, but I did send them. [1:02:37, 1:02:40]: because to how could we balance [1:02:41, 1:02:51]: whether success exists as a counsel. And I understand I'm not discounting what you're saying, because when I looked at the stats when it can come to the elementary schools [1:02:52, 1:03:07]: With the Lead in Me program to start and I know that you have other programs out there like the there's other programs like PBIS programs and different other programs. Yeah. Um I think that uh Stockbridge, uh Smith Barnes is implementing P VIS. [1:03:08, 1:03:09]: [3790.2, 3790.8]: Yeah. [1:03:11, 1:03:11]: But [1:03:12, 1:03:13]: When you look at the grades [1:03:14, 1:03:16]: When I looked at the grades from [1:03:17, 1:03:18]: Cotton Indian. [1:03:19, 1:03:20]: They're [1:03:21, 1:03:29]: below even below what's in the city of Stockbridge, actually city limits of Stockbridge. There I think they was in twenty sixteen they was at a fifty. [1:03:30, 1:03:50]: Versus I think City of S uh um Smith Barnes at like s maybe sixty one sixty two or something like that. And we haven't gotten the numbers for seventeen yet because the school for the year because they should be coming up any time. But in a year and a half, that's what I'm saying as a council we haven't gotten I haven't seen any [1:03:50, 1:03:51]: [3832.5, 3835.9]: on something that was presented to us that we will get reports on. [1:03:56, 1:04:01]: But yet I I have a s unless uh any other council members say I haven't seen any reports from [1:04:02, 1:04:08]: You will not you you will not get reports from the state any sooner. I I don't get'em. [1:04:08, 1:04:10]: As far as their scores. [1:04:10, 1:04:15]: I I won't you don't know. [1:04:15, 1:04:23]: Whether the leader meets program is successful or not, if we're not getting any kind of data in the U. And I can send you the disciplinary report, how that's reversed? [1:04:24, 1:04:26]: I can get that. We just got that. [1:04:26, 1:04:33]: I can show you that. Also, we had a tour where I invited each one of you to come on and I think [1:04:34, 1:04:35]: You would see [1:04:36, 1:04:38]: With your own va eyes. [1:04:39, 1:04:41]: The difference between cotton in elementary school [1:04:42, 1:04:45]: the persona around there, the culture around there, the trends around there. [1:04:46, 1:04:50]: I think you would see that over all the other elementary schools in a ki Henry County. [1:04:50, 1:04:53]: I've had many, many, many visitors come through there and they say, Well [1:04:55, 1:04:58]: Cotinia does not compare with others. They're a step above. [1:04:58, 1:05:05]: But you see where I'm coming from. Yeah and a half in a year and a half with the program being in place. Mm-hmm. [1:05:05, 1:05:08]: And the program receiving funds from the city. [1:05:08, 1:05:20]: We have n I have yet to see anything, any report or anything that shows this program being successful. Reason I'm saying it is and all due respect to the program is [1:05:20, 1:05:25]: I'd rather see a kid achieving that I have problems with than to see a kid [1:05:25, 1:05:26]: Deserve fifty. [1:05:27, 1:05:28]: That's really nice. [1:05:32, 1:05:35]: What I'm trying to say is we don't have anything to show [1:05:36, 1:05:39]: the ch the achievements of the program. [1:05:40, 1:05:44]: in a year and a half and now we at a point again to fund the program again. [1:05:45, 1:05:49]: Well, i it's a three year process to even start going upward. [1:05:50, 1:05:52]: What I'm saying is we've already gotten that in a year and a half. [1:05:53, 1:05:54]: what most schools do in three years. [1:05:55, 1:05:59]: How will we know? How do we know that? [1:05:59, 1:06:00]: [3960.7, 3963.3]: Am I able to say something if I'm on the board? [1:06:04, 1:06:19]: No, I'm fine with asking my questions with Mr. Steve Cash because that's who I'm addressing now that's coming to us for money. [1:06:20, 1:06:25]: to any other indicators that you're looking for. They don't have the indicators come in until the end of the year. [1:06:25, 1:06:30]: Now what are the reports though? Yet you mentioned some reports earlier. What are those reports? Those are uh [1:06:31, 1:06:36]: I've been here a couple of times and spoke to the process how it's doing well. [1:06:36, 1:06:39]: a state of the school like address a couple of times. [1:06:40, 1:06:41]: d throughout last year. [1:06:41, 1:06:47]: And also I've sent in uh budgetary reports, spending reports, the money that [1:06:47, 1:06:50]: We're getting in and the money that's going out, I've sent those in. [1:06:51, 1:06:52]: So [1:06:53, 1:07:05]: I don't know how to Well this kinda goes back to what we was talking about earlier as a council because any budgetary reports that g come anything that comes from you are the Leader in Me program, this is the first time I've ever seen anything. [1:07:06, 1:07:10]: Okay. I understand. I understand. Point taken. Thank you for sharing that. [1:07:10, 1:07:15]: Mayor. We're we're not sure where they are, but we'll find out, Mr. Blount, Mayor. [1:07:16, 1:07:29]: Can I say this as being in the school system outside of this when the the reports come out? Madam Robinson, I think it'd be best just because of your dual position that you recuse yourself from the entire conversation. [1:07:29, 1:07:31]: Mr. Fulwarden. [1:07:32, 1:07:32]: Um [1:07:33, 1:07:34]: You wanna go and say that? [1:07:34, 1:07:36]: Mr Forward. Thank you, ma'am. Sorry. [1:07:37, 1:07:42]: Um actually Steve, I'll tell you as being the interim mayor last year for a good portion of the year [1:07:42, 1:08:00]: I I have to admit, if I received those reports I'm I'm I'm I'm wrong. I g I guess but I don't recall it. I have to admit I don't recall that. Uh I know you've been before us a couple of times to brief and you've given us reports and we've gotten or given some documents or briefings on that. Yes we've received those, but anything else, uh email wise [1:08:01, 1:08:06]: Um and I'll go I'll go back and look and see but I just don't really honestly recall that. [1:08:06, 1:08:07]: You know, and um [1:08:07, 1:08:27]: I I wish I could off the top of my head say yes I emphatically I got those. And I know if I did get them I would share them with the council. I'll say that enough. Outside of that, um the the fifty five hundred dollars that you're asking for in a sense um as we discuss this and we'll eventually get to a point to say yay or nay, we [1:08:27, 1:08:30]: What is that due to you if we're going to do this? [1:08:31, 1:08:33]: We would love it just as soon as you can do it. [1:08:33, 1:08:36]: Okay. No no no particular time frame. [1:08:36, 1:08:44]: Okay. Uh one thing I think would be good to point out right now that the budgetary um [1:08:44, 1:08:51]: Work will begin on our twenty eighteen budget in August and we're not sure if [1:08:52, 1:09:00]: if you can live without it until the first of January that would be an ideal approach, but if not, then please make that clear. [1:09:01, 1:09:15]: Uh uh one second, sir. On that note, since you said that uh Mayor, Linda, right now, between now and August, if we is there something in our budget that could authorize something like this, if we want to do it, any any account uh code or number? [1:09:17, 1:09:37]: Okay, well that'd be something to know if if if if if we decided before the August time frame. If not, because once you go into on the budgetary uh cycle there in August, that's for the actual next year, which is halfway through the school year for you. So that's what I was just wondering. All right. On that note I think I'm done. [1:09:37, 1:09:39]: great, but we are appreciative of whatever whenever. [1:09:40, 1:09:51]: All right, thank you. One one thing uh to follow up on what Mr Ford said, we are trying to quarterly make amendments to the budget if we see that we can afford to do that. [1:09:51, 1:09:55]: And I believe that next meeting will be in July. [1:09:55, 1:09:58]: That would be an early time to take that up. [1:09:58, 1:10:00]: Any comments, further comments? [1:10:01, 1:10:01]: Yes. [1:10:02, 1:10:17]: I I wanna applaud you for the efforts that you're putting in place and the amount of attention uh that you're bringing to this subject and the data that you're putting out there in the community. Everybody needs to understand [1:10:17, 1:10:19]: When you look at their tax bill [1:10:20, 1:10:40]: The school board budget is like three hundred million dollars. Okay? Our budget is like ten or nine or a high nine. And getting those numbers out there, tell us real quick again the amount the number of the schools or that uh the number that you've been given out in terms of failing and closing. [1:10:40, 1:10:48]: System wide I think it's about thirty three or thirty four of the fifty something schools are are are D or F. [1:10:48, 1:11:08]: The thirty three of what? Thirty three of fifty. And that's out of nowhere I I I think we just have to keep it in perspective with what we're doing that what he's doing is innovative and if he can generate those numbers to show us that disciplinary actions are down, we know behavior in that school translates into what's going on [1:11:08, 1:11:28]: On that means that these kids aren't involved in illicit activities or they're not going in the wrong direction and eventually that will pay off. But as speaking to the total education picture in the county right now, talk about that which is what you're doing versus them having a three hundred [1:11:28, 1:11:30]: Yeah. [1:11:31, 1:11:35]: Yeah. I'm just a little gnat what I'm doing, comparatively. Um [1:11:35, 1:11:40]: They do have a big budget. They spend a lot of money on a lot of programs. [1:11:41, 1:11:43]: What we're doing is privately funded [1:11:44, 1:11:47]: And it's just minuscule of what they do. [1:11:48, 1:11:52]: But yet we're getting results by what we do. [1:11:54, 1:12:08]: We're getting results by what we're doing and you're gonna s you're gonna see'em. And and Councilman Blanc, I appreciate that. That's good government what you're talking about. Absolutely good government. I was in government for eight years as a state legislature and and I I can appreciate that. [1:12:11, 1:12:24]: We're not gonna cost anybody anybody anything except for what we can gather through grants and donations, a lot of personal donations, a lot of people that wanna see our education standards come up when th they're going down. [1:12:25, 1:12:26]: You know what? [1:12:27, 1:12:35]: I've been told you gotta wait a little while for some things, some of these programs that are working that they're working on throughout the system. [1:12:36, 1:12:37]: I have a grandkid [1:12:38, 1:12:40]: I don't want him to wait a while. [1:12:41, 1:12:44]: What's gonna happen to him five, six, seven years down the line? [1:12:45, 1:12:54]: And he didn't get that chance. That the kids are getting it caught in elementary school. Now I moved a grandkid from one uh another elementary school [1:12:55, 1:12:58]: to the worst performance school in the county. [1:13:00, 1:13:07]: I did that. You know why? I have the confidence in that leadership. I have the confidence in teachers to that school. I have the confidence in the initiative. [1:13:08, 1:13:15]: Yeah, it's so small what we're doing compared to the giant budget they have. [1:13:15, 1:13:18]: at the district. So small. It's a win win. [1:13:18, 1:13:22]: Taking one of the habits in Fright Public. It's a win win. We see the end in mind. [1:13:25, 1:13:27]: So I don't know if I answered your question, but [1:13:31, 1:13:31]: Mayor Neil. [1:13:32, 1:13:33]: Uh yes, Ms. Gantt. [1:13:34, 1:13:51]: Mr Cash, I would like to just take this time to thank you um for taking the initiative to go out and reach out to any school. I am an advocate for those of us and especially w you don't have children in the school, uh you have a grandchild, you you just mentioned that, but [1:13:51, 1:13:52]: Um [1:13:52, 1:14:12]: It is so important right now for our community uh as a whole to reach out to schools. We've partnered w um earlier last year we voted to partner in education for all schools here in Henry County, specifically the schools in the city limits of Stockbridge. And I just thank you for [1:14:12, 1:14:17]: being a citizen, not just by title, but going out of your way. Um [1:14:17, 1:14:33]: I I looked at the budget and you you actually donated items. You didn't get paid to do this. This is something that you're advocating for. And uh each one of us may have a school that's dear to our hearts that we want to contribute to and do more to. But I I thank you for your service. [1:14:35, 1:14:42]: Okay. Thank you so much. We appreciate you presenting to us tonight. I appreciate each and every one of you the work you did. Thank you so much. [1:14:43, 1:14:56]: Thank you, Steve. At this time we'd like to call up uh we have a presentation by K Piano Club, um Learning Foundation partnership proposal presented by Kenneth L. Wilson. [1:14:56, 1:14:59]: Senior Executive Director, welcome. Mr Wilson. [1:15:02, 1:15:03]: Good evening, Mayor, Council. [1:15:04, 1:15:06]: Um first and foremost I'd like to apologize for my attire. [1:15:07, 1:15:10]: When it was rescheduled, today is also the first day of summer camp. [1:15:10, 1:15:15]: For some reason I thought the council meetings were on Monday, so I do totally apologize. I was back there texting [1:15:16, 1:15:18]: Non stop to have my wife bring me a change of attire. [1:15:19, 1:15:22]: Her last text was, Boy, you're almost forty, handle your own calendar. [1:15:23, 1:15:25]: So I do apologize. Please blame her. [1:15:26, 1:15:26]: Um [1:15:27, 1:15:32]: One, I I wanted to share a little bit about my program, but Mr. Cash I um. [1:15:33, 1:15:42]: Awesome job. I've also been working with the Henry County Schools for the last six years um as a partner in education. Uh my wife and I run a corporation, uh not for profit [1:15:42, 1:15:45]: uh in the state of Georgia that teaches piano to kids. [1:15:45, 1:15:49]: When a child learns to play piano they test higher in math and reading, science proves it. [1:15:50, 1:15:57]: Um the same muscles used to count rhythm are the same muscles used in math, the same muscles used to read music from left to right, are the same muscles used in reading. [1:15:57, 1:16:00]: And because you have to actually use those symbols to actually [1:16:01, 1:16:07]: play using your hands, it uses what's called defined motor skills, which causes both sides of the brain to work together simultaneously. [1:16:08, 1:16:13]: and increases the size of the hippocampus, causing musicians to have higher math and reading scores [1:16:14, 1:16:34]: Recent research just came out um at the collegiate level on who scored the highest on math and reading exams, and it was not math majors nor was it reading majors, but it was music majors. Um over the past six years uh the KPM Learning Foundation has raised and donated over sixty thousand dollars to the Henry County Schools as well as Clayton County Schools and the A. [1:16:33, 1:16:37]: APS schools in partnership. We've taught over eleven thousand students. [1:16:37, 1:16:41]: Um currently we have several programs that are operating [1:16:41, 1:16:48]: both during the academic day in Henry County, in the after school period within the schools and also an after care program right here in the city of Stockbridge. [1:16:49, 1:16:55]: Over the summer we have a summer camp and I know I've updated you guys a few times, but there's a twist at the end of this. Um [1:16:55, 1:17:01]: But we're also the largest employer of African American or minority teens in the county, second only to Sky Zone. [1:17:01, 1:17:04]: So every summer we have an amazing program with the youth. [1:17:04, 1:17:05]: Um [1:17:05, 1:17:07]: I wanted to talk with you guys today [1:17:08, 1:17:16]: Just because I believe there's countless research and I can give you principal feedback, we've worked with 19 of the 26, 29 schools that are in Henry County Elementary Schools. [1:17:16, 1:17:17]: Um [1:17:17, 1:17:29]: You can contact Dutchtown Elementary School. You'll see that we just delivered a check to them for four thousand dollars donation to assist with what they're doing there. Um Dutchtown Elementary School, five thousand on that side, um verifiable. [1:17:29, 1:17:30]: Um from scholarships. [1:17:31, 1:17:33]: From letters from parents who saying that they've [1:17:33, 1:17:53]: Specifically seeing their child improve in math and reading after being a part of the KPN program. I came today because I believe I have a program that is worth the consideration of the council. I've been talking to you guys on and off as well as the former city manager for years about a way to come together and and make it happen. A couple of times we've tried and [1:17:53, 1:17:59]: hit some red tape and found out that this is the way to do it, but I found out my success in the school system has been that I don't go away. [1:18:00, 1:18:01]: I kinda regroup. [1:18:01, 1:18:16]: and figure out the best way to do it to do it because at the end of the day I'm focused on the kids and I find out when I stay focused on the kids everything else falls into the proper place. Um as far as results, I've got the results. Six years, eleven thousand students taught. [1:18:16, 1:18:36]: I can give you over 300 levels, 300 letters and feedback showing um the positive impact on this. I can also tell you that countywide that middle school music programs are decreasing in the school system. However, more than 65% of former K piano students go on in middle school to participate in either math, I'm sorry, in our [1:18:36, 1:18:40]: in either band or chorus, which is a tremendous statistic. [1:18:41, 1:18:45]: Um statistics say that when a child participates in mat I'm sorry, music [1:18:45, 1:19:03]: or arts in middle school, they're seventeen times more likely to graduate. So these are numbers with music that directly can give you a correlated result where you can see point point for point where the impact of what we're doing um can have an impact. So I want to talk with you guys because ultimately I've been working with the um Board of Education [1:19:04, 1:19:16]: Different type of politics and as as was mentioned earlier, they have a much larger budget, different demands oftentimes. But I can say that what we've done has made a tremendous impact. I wanted to talk to the city of Stockbridge because [1:19:17, 1:19:37]: Overall in this in the Board of Education, the schools north of Henry County have been far more receptive to my approach, have been far more accepted to my learning system. And from Stockbridge, Cotton Indians, Smith Barnes, Austin Road, Dutchtown, Pates Creek, we've got kids traveling from every one of those schools. [1:19:37, 1:19:50]: and families Monday through Friday that come right here to the city of Stockbridge for their kids to learn piano, drums, guitar, voice, and violin right across the street at the K Piano Music Academy from the K Piano Learning Foundation. [1:19:50, 1:19:55]: I would love more than anything to partner with the city of Stockbridge and I've been saying it for a long time. [1:19:56, 1:20:00]: But this city would go to a completely new level with the Stockbridge City Youth Orchestra. [1:20:01, 1:20:08]: And what I'm proposing for your consideration and to hear back feedback from the council over the next few I realize it's not going to be anything quick. [1:20:08, 1:20:13]: But I would love to talk about launching the Stockbridge City Youth Orchestra. [1:20:13, 1:20:30]: Um one, I think it brings a level of prestige to our city. Secondly, what is the largest music and arts summer camp in the state of Georgia can just simply be one of the largest youth music festivals right here branded in the city of Stockbridge. Um the plans that I had, I initially launched a [1:20:30, 1:20:40]: a project with the assistant superintendent about three years ago with the personalized learning bringing in music and they gave me seed funding. That program is completely self funded today. [1:20:40, 1:20:44]: Everything that I will be asking the city to consider doing would be done in partnership [1:20:45, 1:20:51]: If you can look at our track record, please check with the Board of Ed and Principals. You will find that my wife and I are avid givers. [1:20:51, 1:20:57]: in any way that we can, especially financially. God has blessed us. We try to be a blessing to others. Um [1:20:57, 1:21:07]: But my plan would be to present a program to you all within the next ninety days written out with pro forma statements along with the financial plan showing that every investment that the city would make [1:21:07, 1:21:13]: would number one be recouped within eighteen to twenty four months and the program would be self funded going forward. [1:21:13, 1:21:31]: And what that would potentially look like would be something as minuscule as um a partnership between the city and the K piano Learning Foundation just for space. Um because one of the things we found as well too Mr. Test as well is that we couldn't do it with the traditional buildings of what the city has right now because it would tie up the resources [1:21:31, 1:21:51]: um of the city and that wouldn't be the best use of the city's assets. So I've got some really creative ideas that I'd like to present um in written paper. That way you guys can get a chance to look it over and uh kind of critique it and give some feedback because at the end of the day I know what this can't do for kids. Um but long story short, I believe that a partnership where the KPN learning [1:21:51, 1:22:00]: Foundation and the city of Stockbridge were able to just find a home for Stockbridge City Youth Orchestra. I'd be talking to the city about the initial outlay for the purchase of equipment. [1:22:00, 1:22:01]: And it's nowhere [1:22:02, 1:22:17]: used equipment or decent equipment to start an orchestra would be enough to get itself funded. I would love to find grants. Unfortunately I've never been I don't know l lucky enough or fortunate enough to be one of those people who found those type of grants. So everything that we've done has been parent funded. [1:22:17, 1:22:37]: So every donation that's been able to keep our organization running and even to a surplus where we've been able to donate to help schools with the mission has all been based off of parents believing in the program and what we've done with the kids. So I would like to um over the next sixty to ninety days just begin some more intense dialogue uh with you all a little bit more. [1:22:37, 1:22:45]: More formal, be able to outline some pro forma statements along with some proposals and some rejections. As well, I'd also like to be an open book. [1:22:45, 1:22:47]: Um and present financial statements. [1:22:47, 1:22:56]: And say, hey, look, look, this is what we make, this is what hits the account every every moment. I've been playing music since I was five. I minister music since I was ten. [1:22:56, 1:23:06]: So I would get a check from a church for two, three hundred dollars for playing at eleven years old, come home, have nothing to do with it but buy candy and and food for all my friends. So money is not the big issue for me on this. [1:23:07, 1:23:14]: But I just really believe and I I'd like to know that this vision that I've had for the last six or seven years, even since I've left corporate [1:23:15, 1:23:30]: can actually, you know, make a difference in this community. And I believe that it's something that needs to be in the city of Stockbridge. I believe that it's something that we can all get behind and I believe the sky is the limit for what this can do for our brand as a city and for the youth in our community. So thank you guys so much for your [1:23:30, 1:23:33]: your uh time to present today. I appreciate you. [1:23:33, 1:23:36]: Thank you so much. Any questions? [1:23:37, 1:23:38]: Thank you, Mayor, I appreciate it. [1:23:39, 1:23:49]: I uh I'm very much interested, I'm pretty sure the council identifying w where the where the concerns are, but I think it's a great idea. I would imagine it would be a first as you kinda indicated there. Uh [1:23:49, 1:23:54]: Mr Williams, uh uh in your experience, have you been involved with such a thing like this before at all? [1:23:55, 1:23:56]: Just kinda curious. [1:23:57, 1:24:09]: Uh yes, sir, not specifically music, but a number of jurisdictions that have recreation departments have a variety of activities, whether they're arts or gymnastics or basketball, so um [1:24:10, 1:24:30]: Not specifically in for an orchestra, but there's no reason why that wouldn't fall within a recreational type uh activity available from a jurisdiction. Yeah. I'm very much interested in maybe this might fit into our future as we redevelop the downtown area. We had some discussion about this earlier for some comments. It may fit in there. But we'll see. But that deals with the council [1:24:30, 1:24:34]: coming to agreement to be able to support such a thing. But thank you. [1:24:35, 1:24:50]: Uh um Mr. Alexandre. Yes, uh thank you for the uh uh the presentation. I really enjoyed the uh the performances uh we had at Paint Henry Blue. So uh you know it really just comes down to numbers. So how much money are we talking about? Um [1:24:51, 1:24:52]: Really looking at about [1:24:52, 1:25:04]: to get the instruments for fifty to seventy five seventy five piece youth orchestra, you're talking about somewhere between eighteen and twenty one thousand dollars would be the city's investment and we would match [1:25:04, 1:25:05]: Dala for Dala. [1:25:06, 1:25:21]: Okay, and follow up question on that. Now I heard you say that you w you were donating money to the school. Now that's a great thing that you're doing, but how much money is the school again, the school system has a three hundred million dollar budget, so how much money are they donating to you? [1:25:22, 1:25:40]: Well, absolutely nothing. Here is how that arrangement kind of works. Ultimately because we're not for profit, when we sign the facility use forms, the schools are not required to file, you know, for us to charge rent because what we do is a is a benefit to the community. Because we're parent funded and ultimately we do make a profit from it [1:25:40, 1:25:44]: I feel it's only right to take a portion of that profit and to donate it back directly to the mission of that school. [1:25:45, 1:25:57]: Well h here's the challenge. Oftentimes um [1:26:00, 1:26:11]: Education is a very territorial place. Prior to doing this I was a senior internal compliance officer for APS, put there by the governor right after the CRCT scandal. So I redesigned all the controls. [1:26:11, 1:26:25]: Former life working at CPA. But it's ve it's a very territorial place. So you've already got a fine arts director there and who's this guy here that's coming in that's focusing on K through five teaching piano. We've got staff and we've got people in place. [1:26:26, 1:26:32]: Even though my program is gamified, there's an online learning component that connects the classroom uh to the living room. [1:26:32, 1:26:36]: even though they're learning on the piano, which is a far more impactful instrument. [1:26:36, 1:26:45]: Even though there's so many case studies and and different things like that, politics oftentimes in education um cause there to be some friction or some you know [1:26:46, 1:26:51]: Some some inhibitors to progress. Which is why I I thought through for a while and I've been saying [1:26:52, 1:26:59]: I really wanna try to work with with the city. And you guys have seen me around. I I lo I'm a real Henry County Stockbridger. I love I love this city. [1:27:00, 1:27:06]: Anything you guys ask me to do, I'm I'm gonna do it. But I just want you guys just to consider it. I think it's a phenomenal programme and I promise that [1:27:07, 1:27:09]: Um of all the things that you all will consider. [1:27:10, 1:27:16]: that if you all would support this that years down the line it'll be something that people will look at and and know that this is the right decision. [1:27:16, 1:27:17]: Mayor. [1:27:17, 1:27:21]: Yes. There are other questions. Uh first Mr Blount. [1:27:21, 1:27:26]: Yeah, uh I like the idea of the program. I have a actually have a daughter that teaches at KIPP. [1:27:27, 1:27:37]: Um the one in Atlanta, I don't know if it's Stribe or Venture. Is that Stribe? Yes, sir. Stribe. One on Lucille? Yes, sir. Oh, okay. Daughter that teaches that. Um but they're able to [1:27:38, 1:27:45]: Um and I'm g glad that you're gonna be bringing more information to us. But they're able to identify different are you five on one C three? [1:27:46, 1:27:49]: Right now we're not. We're a Georgia not for profit base, which is [1:27:50, 1:28:10]: pretty much all all we've done on on that side. And I've just teeter tottered on a couple of things. One, because sometimes with grant funding, I haven't had much success in that in that route. And I've always been from a business background and I'm I'm about business and industry, that portion, so we've stayed parent funded. And the breakdown has been we stayed not for profit, we stay [1:28:10, 1:28:14]: Stay focused on the kids, stay donating to the schools and that's always work from us. [1:28:14, 1:28:31]: uh in the past. However, knowing the direction of where we're going to right now, we are definitely looking within the next sixty to ninety days to do the new uh eleven twenty three E Z to uh take the not the KPN Learning Foundation from a state not for profit entity to uh full five oh one C three organization. [1:28:31, 1:28:43]: Uh I was I was just looking at in terms of having those credentials you could uh identify more funding for for the program with those type of credentials. That's what's it. Yes sir. No, uh point point taken, yes sir, councilman. [1:28:44, 1:28:45]: And we definitely considered it this year. [1:28:46, 1:28:49]: Okay, I think we have some other questions. Ms. Robinson. [1:28:49, 1:29:06]: question. Looking at your proposal, um you have three things with the you're trying to do the city youth band. Yes ma. Um gifted afternoon miz music enrichment and also a summer youth band camp. Yes. Um that's something that I noticed with the city of McDonough. [1:29:06, 1:29:26]: that they reached out um and hosting um a summer camp and that's something we definitely do not have here in the city of Stockbridge. Um and we're talking about the arts um and all of that that we're having here in the city and uh noting that we're having our first in ep in Stockbridge history with our youth council getting [1:29:26, 1:29:28]: [5368.5, 5375.1]: I think this is a excellent idea. I just wanna see a little more as we were, you know, I I guess [1:29:35, 1:29:45]: the funding piece. No one really mentioned that, you know, being good stewards, but you know, bringing back more details on that piece. I think once we all see that [1:29:46, 1:29:51]: But other than that, I mean, our first orchestra and I saw you at Paint Henry Blue. [1:29:51, 1:29:53]: With that group also? [1:29:53, 1:30:03]: Um awesome young people. So I'm excited. So once we get more on it, I I mean, I'm all for it. Absolutely. Excellent. Thank you, Matt. [1:30:03, 1:30:08]: Were there other comments or questions? Mayor Neil. Um [1:30:08, 1:30:13]: I last year we met and we were gonna try to put a camp together at that time. [1:30:13, 1:30:30]: Do we still have the paperwork and the contract agreement with that in place or will that be similar to what we're doing we would go um moving forward? I think it's an excellent program. I know it's in all the school s within Henry County. I've seen your work and I'm concurring with everyone else here. [1:30:30, 1:30:39]: Um but I can let everyone know that we were in the process of trying to get something done last year, however it was short notice. And um [1:30:40, 1:31:00]: this time and we also had a camp going on last year so it kind of but we had our own camp going and uh we just couldn't get you know everything together in place in time. But I think that what you've heard from council is that we think it's an excellent um idea and I I look forward to getting the information a proposal [1:31:00, 1:31:16]: that you do have in place. But if it's something that we don't have to reinvent, uh do you remember what it was or quite quite honestly it it's vaguely familiar, but we'll go back and find whatever was there and obviously depending on what's presented we'll be ready to prepare something. [1:31:16, 1:31:17]: All right. Thank you. [1:31:17, 1:31:19]: Okay. Any other comments? [1:31:20, 1:31:25]: Thank you so much for your presentation. We appreciate it so much. Thank you all so much and I apologize for my time. [1:31:26, 1:31:27]: Thank you. [1:31:27, 1:31:39]: At this time we're gonna call uh Gad Woodall to come up. He has um an agenda request uh reg regarding Serafino restaurant, a change of uh ownership. [1:31:40, 1:31:41]: Mr Waterall. [1:31:41, 1:31:42]: Mm. [1:31:43, 1:31:45]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Appreciate y'all. [1:31:46, 1:31:51]: Considering this tonight, we uh are just requesting a change of uh or transfer of the license. [1:31:51, 1:31:54]: that uh two brothers restaurant group has [1:31:55, 1:31:57]: on the Serafinos restaurant. They've been operating [1:31:57, 1:31:59]: here at this location for nine years. [1:32:00, 1:32:01]: uh move from morrow [1:32:02, 1:32:04]: where they operated up there for nine years as well, but [1:32:05, 1:32:05]: [5526.2, 5528.1]: Mm has some medical issues and [1:32:08, 1:32:11]: couldn't continue on with the restaurant business, so [1:32:11, 1:32:14]: We've assumed that role and we'd just like to ask that y'all [1:32:15, 1:32:16]: transfer that licence over to [1:32:17, 1:32:18]: Serafino's Italian restaurant. [1:32:20, 1:32:22]: Okay. Mr. Attorney. [1:32:23, 1:32:28]: Um Madam Mayor, you've received a request in writing from uh the [1:32:29, 1:32:32]: uh propose new owners of the business. Um [1:32:32, 1:32:39]: Our code provides that i provided they meet all the other requirements to obtain an alcohol license [1:32:39, 1:32:42]: Um they pass a background check, etcetera. [1:32:42, 1:33:02]: If they do all that, you all have the authority to essentially waive the additional license fee that would otherwise be r required. So this operates just like the sale of a business to the new owner, and the new owners, as long as they can get an alcohol license, would they be able to receive the [1:33:02, 1:33:05]: Yeah, the license without paying the fee again. [1:33:06, 1:33:19]: Okay, and have they met all of those requirements? Yes, ma'am. They passed the background check and so at this point uh the the code says you are not required to approve it, but it is within your discretion to approve it. [1:33:20, 1:33:33]: Manil. Yes. I move that we approve um the um request for transfer the request for transfer of business. Okay. We have a motion from the scant. Do I hear a second? [1:33:34, 1:33:37]: Have a second from Ms. Robinson. Any discussion? [1:33:39, 1:33:44]: Okay. Uh no discussion. Uh call for the vote. All in favor? [1:33:46, 1:33:53]: All right. Looks like seraphinos is in business. Encourage everybody to go over and eat. Appreciate your support. Thank you. [1:33:55, 1:34:15]: All right, now we're gonna move on to new business and the first order of business. Um as your mayor, I am asking um that we move forward with our insurance and risk management renewal and that is a process that every year the city manager and that would have been under my [1:34:15, 1:34:26]: Michael Harris and our clerk work on together and they have advised us that they're ready to move forward with our renewal. Do I hear a motion that we do that? [1:34:26, 1:34:35]: Mayor Neil? Yes. I move that we agree to um approve the proposed insurance and risk management agreement. [1:34:36, 1:34:38]: All right. Do I have a second? [1:34:38, 1:34:43]: We have a second from Miss Robinson. I'll uh is there any discussion? Yes. [1:34:44, 1:34:54]: Well I just want to ask a simple question that I don't know. I guess is terms of renewing this, uh is it customary just to renew or detect bids on [1:34:55, 1:35:02]: To r just renew or is it customary yearly to get different quotes or how does that work? Somebody talking me. [1:35:03, 1:35:06]: Madam Clerk, would you like to answer that question? [1:35:09, 1:35:09]: Right. [1:35:10, 1:35:15]: Oh you were looking at the attorney, okay. Madam Mayor, um [1:35:15, 1:35:35]: Th there's no one right or wrong way to do it. Very often if the insurance carrier you're working with comes to you um with an increase in premiums and and you you haven't been happy with the service, sometimes you'll go and bid it out. Um it's it's very [1:35:35, 1:35:45]: Very rare, however, for cities to to routinely um bid out their general liability insurance coverage. Um [1:35:45, 1:35:57]: I think Stockbridge did it a few years ago and changed who who we have now. But if you'll note the estimated premium that is being quoted [1:35:58, 1:36:08]: um for the next year is actually about fifteen thousand dollars lower on an annual basis than what you were charged this year, at least based on the summary that's been provided. [1:36:09, 1:36:10]: Um [1:36:10, 1:36:30]: You know, under those circumstances, as long as you're happy and the staff has been happy with the insurance provider, it's not necessary to bid it out, but you're always free to do so. Um the other issue um may be a timely issue and I I just don't know the answer, but this proposal is through the period of May nineteenth. [1:36:30, 1:36:37]: Um so I don't know. I I don't believe we've lapsed. Um but no, we would not have lapsed. We have that [1:36:38, 1:36:40]: uh assurance from the company. [1:36:41, 1:37:01]: Well I guess my question, follow up question, well what would it hurt to actually do that, to actually get some bids and to see. You don't you know you don't know what the market dictates. We're talking about two hundred and twenty thousand dollars, maybe they're were less, but we should be able to find out, you know, whether they're the lowest or not by taking a few bids, do we have time to do so? [1:37:01, 1:37:11]: No. We do not this year, but if you want to make a recommendation that we do it when we renew again, that could be a point of consideration. It would need to make be made earlier. [1:37:14, 1:37:21]: So the deadline is already passing or I mean our renewal date and um they're they're covering us [1:37:21, 1:37:26]: What we g when we got it when we received the information in and and w with the insurance [1:37:27, 1:37:47]: If they were again, as just been stated, if they were coming in with an increase, um then we would definitely be wanting to go down that road. But when they came in with a sixteen thousand dollar decrease because of some of the programs that we chose, because of some of the safety programs that we put in place, w because of some of the training that we put in [1:37:47, 1:38:07]: place and then have a reduction and um on top of that we were comfortable uh with going with the renewal. We did change two years ago because we looked at what that insurance company was offering us and what they were bringing forward. And this is our second year with this particular company and they've been [1:38:07, 1:38:16]: they've been nothing but good to us as far as customer service and what what some of the things that they brought to us to be proactive on to keep our insurance premiums down. [1:38:18, 1:38:20]: Any other comments? [1:38:20, 1:38:40]: I just wanted the f the last comment tell me as to cocause I o I wanna make sure that we have everything on the table right now. So we do not in your legal opinion have time to take any additional responses at this point and we would be laps in jeopardy of lapsing how do [1:38:40, 1:38:41]: How does that work? [1:38:41, 1:38:51]: I just can't give you an answer to that right now'cause I haven't had those conversations with the carrier. I if they were to give us an option to go month to month [1:38:51, 1:38:54]: to give us that time, that would be something we'd have to ask about. [1:38:54, 1:39:06]: Um keep in mind when you do that you risk y you know, getting you uh you know, the next time around you get bids, you might get higher, you know, premiums just depending on what's bid out. [1:39:10, 1:39:12]: Other comments? [1:39:13, 1:39:20]: We have a motion to go forward with this and a second. We've had our discussion. [1:39:20, 1:39:21]: All in favour? [1:39:23, 1:39:26]: Okay, thank you so much for your vote. [1:39:26, 1:39:27]: Hello. [1:39:30, 1:39:33]: I vote against it. I don't have enough information. I like to check, you know. [1:39:36, 1:39:39]: So you're voting no. Is that correct? Okay, thank you. [1:39:40, 1:39:50]: Uh the next order of business uh will be presented by our Public Works Director, Deshrus Aaron, and it will regard task order for [1:39:50, 1:39:53]: uh WWT improvements, phase two. [1:39:53, 1:39:54]: Public works. [1:39:56, 1:39:57]: Good evening, Madam Mayor and Councillor. [1:39:58, 1:40:16]: Uh the task order we're coming with tonight is one of the items that were was identified in the short term work program as well as the splots funding. So we're requesting permission to move forward with the task order which is for the replacement of the UB disinfection system and the filters at the wastewater plant. [1:40:16, 1:40:25]: for cost not to exceed one hundred and nine thousand one hundred dollars. And that also includes the rehabilitation of the Glen Abbey. Uh [1:40:26, 1:40:27]: lift station. [1:40:29, 1:40:48]: Okay. Do we uh do I hear a motion for this? Let let me remind everyone that this um is an item that the funding is there, it's in place, so it's not like we're having to amend in out of our fund balance if you choose to go forward. [1:40:49, 1:40:59]: Do I hear a motion? Mayor I make a motion that the task order for the WWT improvements phase two that Mr. Daisy Sarin just presented is accepted. [1:41:01, 1:41:06]: Input second. Do I hear a second? Okay, we have a motion and we have a second. [1:41:10, 1:41:11]: Uh all in favor. [1:41:13, 1:41:17]: All right, thank you so much. Now we'll move on to um [1:41:17, 1:41:22]: Uh Mr Aaron is going to present another item. This is called Playworld Rubber. [1:41:23, 1:41:24]: Surfacing. [1:41:24, 1:41:30]: This also would be funded by a splost account if you go for it. [1:41:31, 1:41:40]: Madam Mayor and Council, we're coming to you tonight to ask for your approval to go with the what's called a poured in place or a rubberized surface. [1:41:40, 1:41:42]: at Clark Park and Reeves Creek Trail. [1:41:43, 1:41:48]: At Clark Park right now you're spending about ten thousand dollars a year purchasing moats. [1:41:49, 1:42:09]: And uh one of the things I notice with the mulch is when it rains it takes three or four days for it to dry out and for people to be able to use that playground. So what we're asking is this port in place for Clark Park is one hundred and seventeen thousand two hundred and sixteen dollars. It has a life expectancy of fifteen to twenty years. [1:42:09, 1:42:11]: [6131.5, 6151.5]: ten thousand dollars, say mulch goes up, you're spending ten to twelve thousand dollars a year on mulch. Even if you go ten years with the mulch, it's a hundred thousand hundred plus thousand dollars. So we've got this system, it'll be in place. If it rains fifteen to twenty minutes later, you can play on and use that exercise equipment. And I think for what we're spending on mulch [1:42:31, 1:42:51]: and what we would spend with this and the life expectancy of it if you get twenty years. I mean that's two hundred thousand dollars worth of mulch, so I think it's a good idea for the city to pursue it. It's available for out of splotch three, that new park equipment we talked about. And the other one is for Rees [1:42:51, 1:42:56]: Creek Trail where the exercise equipment is. [1:42:57, 1:43:14]: six hundred and two dollars and and it's just the same process there. You know, you mulch two or three times a year depending on how much usage you get at that facility. So we're asking for your permission to move forward with these two task orders that would come out of the new park line item in SPLOS three. [1:43:15, 1:43:26]: Okay, we've heard the presentation. Do I hear a motion? I move that we approve the Playworld um rubber surf surfing equipment that's been presented by our [1:43:26, 1:43:27]: Um public works director. [1:43:28, 1:43:28]: Second. [1:43:29, 1:43:31]: I hear a motion and I hear a second. [1:43:33, 1:43:43]: Do we have any discussion? One quick question please. Uh this is the same material that we have at mu at uh Memorial Park already currently. Okay the same part, okay. [1:43:44, 1:43:47]: Okay, any other discussion or questions? [1:43:48, 1:43:50]: If not, all in favour? [1:43:51, 1:44:07]: All right, thank you for your vote. And I'd I'd like to ask Mayor and Council for their consensus. We we're currently bidding out some stormwater projects. We have four projects. And we've got a fifth one we've identified and it's on one of the roads that we're gonna resurface next year. [1:44:08, 1:44:16]: So we would hate to resurface the road and have to cut it. So we want a consensus that we can move forward with the task order to replace that cobra. [1:44:16, 1:44:20]: at uh Hill Cress and Bowen Street. [1:44:20, 1:44:23]: The task order is would be done by Falcon Design. [1:44:24, 1:44:27]: And it has a cost of nineteen thousand four hundred and fifty dollars. [1:44:27, 1:44:29]: What we're trying to do is [1:44:30, 1:44:43]: realize an economy of scale. We've got four projects and we bid out five. We'll get a better price because we don't have to pay a mobilization fee for every time they come out to do a project and we're bidding it so that one company will [1:44:43, 1:44:55]: get all five projects. So I just think it'll be beneficial to us to do it that way. And like I said, I hate for us to resurface that road and then we come back two months later to tear it up to do this project. [1:44:55, 1:45:06]: So what you're asking us is to add an agenda item tonight to include that? Is that what you're asking? Yes, ma'am. If you give us your consensus so we can move forward and we can bring it back at the [1:45:06, 1:45:07]: Um June. [1:45:08, 1:45:12]: council meeting if we have to, but we just want to be able to move forward with the design of [1:45:13, 1:45:14]: Mr Attorney. [1:45:14, 1:45:14]: F [1:45:19, 1:45:28]: Um he can move forward and bring it back and those actions could be ratified at the next meeting, so you wouldn't necessarily have to amend the agenda today and vote on it. [1:45:28, 1:45:48]: Okay, so you're saying that we could allow him to move forward, bring it back. Are all of you in agreement that that would be all right to bring this bat um item back and have it on the agenda at our next council meeting? Well I'm confused. Wait, I want to be clear. Are you are you asking to go forward? [1:45:48, 1:45:57]: I'd like to have a consensus that we can move forward with a design on the project and get it. [1:45:57, 1:45:58]: voted on it. [1:45:59, 1:46:00]: the next council meeting. [1:46:00, 1:46:06]: Okay, and our attorney has assured us that would be okay. Um, do I hear a motion to that effect? [1:46:07, 1:46:09]: Manuel. Yes. Um [1:46:09, 1:46:12]: And just real briefly before we do that motion. [1:46:12, 1:46:19]: I too noticed on the agenda meeting on the agenda that there was going to be a discussion about the food truck event. [1:46:19, 1:46:25]: And it's not on here. We had a uh consensus but w it was something that we wanted to discuss [1:46:25, 1:46:27]: real briefly in public as well. [1:46:27, 1:46:31]: And it would probably be in the same manner. So I would ask that we could do both. [1:46:31, 1:46:36]: Um when that time comes and we can talk about that a little bit. Is that possible? [1:46:37, 1:46:52]: Then I I move that we uh what am I moving to motion is not necessary, I g think at this point, unless there's objection, y that would be his plan to move forward and then bring it back for you all to ratify. [1:46:52, 1:46:58]: Okay. Okay. We uh madam clerk, will you make sure that we get that on our next schedule? Okay. [1:46:59, 1:47:00]: All right. Um [1:47:02, 1:47:06]: The next item that we're gonna have uh presented [1:47:07, 1:47:10]: Well the uh also the um [1:47:10, 1:47:19]: um our public works director, Dashus Aaron, and that is the disposal of claw on a trash loader. [1:47:20, 1:47:29]: Yeah, that's a little complicated, but there's a big claw that the city no longer needs and he has a photograph I think for you to see. [1:47:34, 1:47:39]: I think we got this, so thank you. [1:47:43, 1:47:54]: Uh yes, Madam Mayor and Council. Before the city got out of the business of collecting their own solid waste, they purchased uh what's called a knuckle boom truck to pick up bulk furniture. [1:47:54, 1:48:00]: and yard debris and things of that nature. Well well when the city privatized the sanitation [1:48:00, 1:48:08]: the truck became obsolete. We didn't have a use for it. So we either had one or two choices to either try to sell it, which would have been difficult. We'd have took a [1:48:08, 1:48:11]: a big loss on it or repurpose it to use it. [1:48:12, 1:48:14]: and all the missions within public works. [1:48:14, 1:48:15]: So [1:48:15, 1:48:17]: We came before council and got [1:48:17, 1:48:19]: permission to refurbish the truck. [1:48:20, 1:48:22]: It was refurbished to remove the [1:48:22, 1:48:25]: The claw part what you see off the truck. [1:48:25, 1:48:37]: And so what we're using the truck for now is the hall sludge. We've been paying I think it's like a hundred plus dollars every time they come out and empty the the container with the sludge in it. So now we can take it to the landfill ourselves. [1:48:38, 1:48:38]: But [1:48:39, 1:48:42]: The instrument is so big and we don't have a place to store it. [1:48:43, 1:48:55]: And the company that removed it will store it for us without cost as we try to sell it on Gov deal and we just wanna have permission to go ahead and s and sell that. [1:48:55, 1:48:58]: that piece of equipment cost we don't have a use for it. [1:48:58, 1:49:14]: I say it was bought so when you were doing your own sanitation you can use it. But once you got out of the sanitation business, public work had no use for the truck in that form. So we had it reconfigured to take the the claw off so we can use it in other operations. [1:49:14, 1:49:21]: Okay, do I hear a motion to give public works the authority to dispose of the claw? [1:49:21, 1:49:22]: So more. [1:49:23, 1:49:31]: I hear a um I have a motion and I believe I heard a second. Okay. Okay. Now is there any discussion or questions? Real quick. [1:49:32, 1:49:33]: Alexander. [1:49:37, 1:49:38]: Yeah. [1:49:39, 1:49:40]: Did we ever use this? [1:49:40, 1:49:47]: It was used when you were picking up solid waste yourself, when you went out and picked up furniture and things like that or yard debris. [1:49:47, 1:49:54]: That's what you used it for. Instead of having guys lifting it and putting it in the truck, you used that that device. [1:49:55, 1:49:57]: Because I mine is okay. [1:50:00, 1:50:03]: Okay. If there are no further questions, I'll call for the vote. [1:50:06, 1:50:07]: All in favor? [1:50:08, 1:50:11]: Okay, thank you for your vote. Thank you, Mr Aaron. [1:50:14, 1:50:25]: Now then we're gonna call our community uh development director, Camilla Moore, and she's going to uh present to us an idea for authorization to move forward with an RFP. [1:50:25, 1:50:28]: for permitting and inspection services. [1:50:29, 1:50:31]: Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tempa, Members of Council. [1:50:31, 1:50:38]: I thank you for the opportunity stand before you here tonight to bring before you what I think is not necessarily innovative idea. [1:50:38, 1:50:58]: But it's a manner which we can control our own future in terms of our development process, as well as make sure that the Jodico projects and any other projects that need to be expedited that we control that by having permitting inside. So what I'm asking you to do tonight as we look at bringing planning services back under the [1:50:58, 1:51:18]: hospices of the city of Stockbridge. I'm asking that you allow me to put on the street an RFP for permanent in building. Now what would that do? This is a budget neutral item, which means it would be no cost to the citizens of the taxpayers of Riverdale because it will be through a third party vendor. Stop great. I'm sorry. Been there too long. [1:51:18, 1:51:38]: She worked in Riverdale before she came to us. But what it would do is that it would allow us uh right now as you are aware, Henry County performs the permit and building inspections for us. So what that means is that if someone goes down to get a permit or to have their building inspected, they have to wait on Henry County to actually [1:51:38, 1:51:58]: Actually put it in their schedule. What this will allow is us. For an individual who is interested in getting his permit to start construction, should the Jody Cole project take off tomorrow, we could expedite those projects right here in Stockbridge without having someone to go to Henry County. We think this will be beneficial. [1:51:58, 1:52:03]: In addition to that, right now we do not receive any revenues from Henry County. [1:52:04, 1:52:24]: This will be a revenue generator for the City of Stock Bridge, which means that as the permitting comes in and as the building come in, then the City of Stockbridge will receive a portion of that income stream, which will be a new income revenue stream for the City of Stock Bridge. So I'm asking that you give me the authority to put this out, and hopefully we will have them up. [1:52:24, 1:52:28]: up and running for us by August first of two thousand and seven. [1:52:31, 1:52:44]: Okay. Could could you hold a second? Well what we're gonna do is we're going to um have a motion to move forward with this and then we'll have a point of discussion. Okay? [1:52:44, 1:52:45]: So [1:52:45, 1:52:46]: Do I hear [1:52:47, 1:52:50]: a motion that we move forward with Ms Moore's [1:52:50, 1:52:52]: um presentation. [1:52:52, 1:52:58]: I authorize that council consideration are authorized to move forward with RLP for the permitting and inspection services. [1:52:58, 1:52:59]: A second. [1:52:59, 1:53:03]: Okay, we have a motion and we have a second. Now there's time for discussion. [1:53:06, 1:53:09]: Any discussion? If not, all in favor? [1:53:10, 1:53:13]: Thank you for your vote and thank you, Ms Moore. [1:53:15, 1:53:25]: She uh Miss Moore now is going to present to us um another idea for authorization to move forward with an RFP for comprehensive land use. [1:53:25, 1:53:28]: for a comprehensive land use plan. [1:53:28, 1:53:48]: This is real exciting, Mayor. As you know, prior to tonight, Henry County basically had a collaborative effort that included Stockbridge in terms of its comprehensive plan. I think what's really innovative about this is that now, for the first time in our history for a long time, we won't have to be a part of a collective [1:53:48, 1:54:07]: collaborative that we can take our own ideas and our own vision based on the citizens of Stockbridge and move forward as an independent body to determine what we want our land use and our development to be independent of Henry County. So I'm asking that you allow us to put this RFP out on the street. [1:54:07, 1:54:27]: so that we can have a firm to come in and help us to develop a comprehensive land use plan that speaks not only to our one year, but our five, our ten, our fifteen, and our twenty year vision that you may have as a part of this council so once again we can control our destiny, our development and our future. [1:54:28, 1:54:35]: Okay. Uh we have heard her presentation. Um do I hear a motion? Yes. [1:54:35, 1:54:40]: Okay, we have a motion by uh Councilman Alexander. Do I hear a second? A second. [1:54:41, 1:54:52]: What was the motion? The motion is the author the authorization to move forward with the RLP for comprehensive land use plan uh for the city of Stockbridge. [1:54:52, 1:55:12]: And do we hear a second? A second. All right, we have a second. I'll uh at this point we'll have discussion. I would just like to send it to all to all of those in attendance. This is major, ladies and gentlemen. What's going on right here is we're putting together comprehensive plans for the city for the next five, next ten. [1:55:12, 1:55:28]: in next fifteen years. That's something that we haven't had in place so that we can move forward with all our projects in an o organized, prioritized way. Is that not correct, Miss Yes sir. That is correct. So it it's a major a major move forward for us. [1:55:30, 1:55:33]: Okay. Thank you so much. And um [1:55:33, 1:55:35]: Let's go forward with the vote. [1:55:36, 1:55:37]: Okay. All in favor? [1:55:40, 1:55:41]: Thank you so much for your vote. [1:55:42, 1:55:43]: And thank you for the presentation. [1:55:45, 1:55:46]: Job well done. [1:55:47, 1:56:00]: All right. Now then we're going to um move on to a couple of discussion items. The first one being um a council discussion regarding code enforcement, storefront merchandise. [1:56:00, 1:56:05]: and various other things and we're gonna hear from Councilman Alexander [1:56:05, 1:56:05]: Um [1:56:06, 1:56:06]: Arab. [1:56:06, 1:56:09]: Community Development Director Camilla Moore. [1:56:09, 1:56:15]: And possibly from our city attorney. So are you gonna start us off, or councilman? [1:56:16, 1:56:16]: Uh [1:56:17, 1:56:23]: Ladies and gentlemen, uh this is something that I asked to be put um forward in the city of Stockbridge. [1:56:24, 1:56:31]: Code enforcement for the city is only as strong as the backbone of this council or the leadership of the city. [1:56:32, 1:56:44]: It is my desire to have a zero tolerance policy raising the standards in the city of Stockbridge. If it is already on the books, it should be enforced. [1:56:44, 1:57:04]: We have things now where we have in the city where we have cars illegally parked. Well we give warning after warning after warning and no one uh has the authority I spoke with the code enforcement officer to move forward. Many of you understand that that places the city and that places you in danger because if there's a car parked in the city, [1:57:04, 1:57:24]: The street and you have a medical emergency, that car might block the access. Or when your neighbors have these parties uh as they come along, there's ten twenty cars parked along the street, emergency vehicles can't access. A few seconds in the middle of a fire, it might be the difference between a property being a total loss. [1:57:24, 1:57:28]: or your home being saved. That's a big deal to us. [1:57:28, 1:57:39]: um in terms of um all of the uh of the other items such as uh signage in the right of way and um storefront merchandise. [1:57:40, 1:58:00]: We have a policy right now in the city of Stockbridge that's on the book against outside displays being displayed in the city. Yet we allow outside displays such as tires outside of the tire shops at all of these shops up and down North Henry and throughout the city. What I'm calling on us to do is to do what we need to do necessarily. [1:58:00, 1:58:20]: Subsequent to that we had a policy that we tried to implement where we have these stores uh that have multicolored lights in the windows that are flashing that really have our city looking like a cheap version of Las Vegas and [1:58:19, 1:58:31]: night because we have red lights, we have orange lights, we have green lights that are flashing in the city. Previously the city attempted to do something to interdict that to keep it from spreading. [1:58:32, 1:58:52]: But apparently the ordinance was ambiguous uh in its enforcement and we uh charge the city attorney with putting something together that is enforceable. Uh since that time, uh maybe the year to year and a half has passed, there's been an expansion. Now you see these lights in the storefront window. [1:58:52, 1:59:12]: all over the place. And all of the business is growing. It's extremely unattractive to us as well. As you move down through the city and you see litter and trash that we have charged to make sure that we have cleaned up in the city on a regular basis, we need these businesses [1:59:12, 1:59:32]: to clean up after themselves and to make sure if you operate in the city and that your lot is littered or your grass is not cut that we have uh issues that that we have code enforcement that can actually enforce the uh municipal codes that are um on the books as they are now and to adapt the code [1:59:32, 1:59:40]: modes to make it make them more enforceable in terms of items that we want to keep for making our city in terms of a ISOR. [1:59:42, 1:59:44]: Okay. And next we'll go to Ms. Moore. [1:59:45, 2:00:01]: Um thank you, Mayor. Uh Councilman Alexander, I think in any community there's nothing more sensitive than code enforcement. And over time communities change and what might have been something that was acceptable in a code five years ago may not be acceptable today. [2:00:02, 2:00:14]: Uh staff is in the process. We're working with the consultant right now to review all of your code of ordinances because it's time for many of them to be updated. And high on the priority list is code enforcement. [2:00:15, 2:00:20]: But one thing to keep in mind, some of these issues the city created itself. [2:00:21, 2:00:25]: You can't build twenty two fo twenty two foot wide streets. [2:00:25, 2:00:45]: and then expect people who buy the homes to not have access to their homes. And so for us as staff, we think we need to come up with a recommendation that meets not only the needs of the fire and the police and those emergency vehicles having the uh right of entry down the street. [2:00:45, 2:01:05]: street, but to also how do we accommodate a resident who wants to have vehicles or have an event. And so we've talked about innovative ideas in terms of parking on one side. That's just one possible solution to the particular number of subdivisions that have the limited width for their streets. [2:01:05, 2:01:25]: options is to make sure that we change the development standards so that never again in the city of Stockbridge do we have cities which are so narrow. So therefore all of the needs in terms of transportation in and out of subdivisions can be met. But again those ideas are going to be presented to staff [2:01:25, 2:01:45]: And the process for that is then to take it to your advisory board and at that point in time to have public hearings on those ideas because we need for the community to be abreast of what the changes are. As it relates to storefront merchandise, again that is a part of the code that we're looking at. [2:01:45, 2:02:05]: We know that first impression in terms of economic development is crucial. So, no, we don't want to look like Las Vegas, but we do want to look like a community that anyone who's interested in bringing their business here will be glad to be a part of our community. So, once again, this is a section of the code that we're currently updating. So, this is what [2:02:05, 2:02:07]: [7327.9, 7347.9]: We are receiving the proposed changes to the code of ordinances from the consultant. We're meeting with him next week to look at his proposed revisions. If those revisions are adequate, then we will set up for the advisory committee to look at those codes at the end of June. [2:02:27, 2:02:47]: At that point in time, we will ask for public comment because it's always good to get public comment when you change the ordinance. And once we get the public comments, the staff is hopeful that we will bring to you in August those particular sensitive areas of the code that deals with parking and storefront merchandising. [2:02:47, 2:02:59]: the tires and all of that so that we can alleviate those problems in our commercial district while at the same time bringing a reasonable compromise to our residential community as it relates to parking. [2:03:01, 2:03:01]: Thank you. [2:03:02, 2:03:05]: Okay, uh Mr. Attorney, do you have anything you want to add? [2:03:06, 2:03:13]: No, I think she covered it all. Um the the only thing she didn't go into is y we have a schedule of [2:03:13, 2:03:33]: um code sections that we hope to review in the zoning code over the next year or so. It's really a little bit less than a year. So in addition to those sensitive ones that she identified, we'll be looking at the entire zoning code over the next year to bring back suggested changes and improvements along the [2:03:33, 2:03:34]: Yeah. [2:03:35, 2:03:35]: Okay. [2:03:36, 2:03:39]: Um are there any comments about this discussion item? [2:03:43, 2:03:47]: Do we need a vote on this? I didn't think so. Okay. [2:03:47, 2:03:59]: Um now then um I think item was I told that item thirteen has been pulled back. Well I'll make a motion to table I sh item number thirteen. [2:03:59, 2:04:05]: All right, do I hear a second? A second that. Okay. And I'll in uh any discussion. [2:04:06, 2:04:07]: If not, all in favour. [2:04:09, 2:04:09]: Thank you. [2:04:10, 2:04:17]: Um now we'll go back to the previous comment from Miss Gantt about uh she has some comments about the food truck. [2:04:17, 2:04:37]: Yes, and it's pr we pretty much I just wanted to give everyone an update. Um we were in a meeting and pertaining to food trucks and um I've spoken with Councilman Alexander, um Councilman Blount and Mapro Tim Ford and myself agreed to extend food truck through [2:04:37, 2:04:57]: August. Um we thought initially it was for thirty weeks and then we we had agreed to split it in half, but the funding amount for it may need to be amended on our next um upcoming budget meeting to include that extension through August. Um we [2:04:57, 2:05:11]: The idea was to actually split it from thirty weeks to fifteen. But when we received the noted calendar, it was for seven or eight de eight weeks. [2:05:11, 2:05:31]: And so we wanted to at least extend it throughout the summer. Um it's what it's our popular event, most popular event. It um when we had some negative reviews, all of a sudden food cut truck came and it became a positive review for both the community as a whole and for [2:05:31, 2:05:51]: the south side of Atlanta metro area to include people from Rockdale, Peace Tree City, Fayetteville, Butts County, you name it. So it's a great family event and I wanted to let the audience know what actually took place. Um the event starts next Tuesday at [2:05:51, 2:06:11]: 530. Um it's going we're changing the location to Clark Park. Um and it is something that um is just outstanding for the community within itself, for the citizens to be able to fellowship together. And so we did not have it on the agenda. At one point, I thought I had [2:06:11, 2:06:31]: had mentioned to make sure that we put it on the agenda so we could discuss the additional funding that may be needed. Um but in the meantime I wanted everyone to know that we have agreed and and maybe that's something we should agree to and make a motion for tonight to agree. I so I move that we agree [2:06:31, 2:06:35]: we um to extend food two seas through the month of August. [2:06:36, 2:06:39]: Maybe here a second, Mayor. I'll second that. [2:06:40, 2:06:42]: And is there any discussion? Yes. [2:06:43, 2:07:03]: Ms. Robinson I just wanna um let the public know as you went down the list I w wasn't privy to this information, um so you didn't reach out to me. And I guess that's why I was saying with the policy to make sure we're specific on information, receiving information to all [2:07:03, 2:07:07]: council. Um so I just want everyone to know I'm not [2:07:08, 2:07:20]: up to date on the information so when you see me not voting, that's why. Um but I love food trucks but I just can't be trans you know, I can't give you a full vote when I don't know. [2:07:20, 2:07:40]: Marinell. Um actually it was just a discussion. People came to the food truck meeting, everyone was invited and you weren't there. So I didn't give it a second I didn't give it a second thought. We actually asked for it to be placed on the agenda tonight so that we could take a vote. Um I just didn't give it a second of thought, so I I hope I didn't offend you. [2:07:40, 2:07:45]: you I just really didn't think about you at that moment. Sorry about that. [2:07:46, 2:07:57]: Oh can I add something? Is with the food truck was this a called meeting? If it was a quorum, was everyone there or did you just reach out? Was it something that it was a call meeting? [2:07:58, 2:08:05]: Actually I think it was put out on an email. Um we were just discussing what was going on with food trust. Mr. Alexander appeared [2:08:05, 2:08:16]: Uh Mr. Blount, I talked to him later on the phone. Okay, so they were so we didn't have a quorum. Oh no. Okay, so that's what I was bas that's where I'm saying. Yeah. [2:08:16, 2:08:21]: because if so, we would have a quorum if everybody attended. [2:08:21, 2:08:27]: So that way no one reached out to me. Is that not correct or no? I'm not I mean the clerk is [2:08:28, 2:08:48]: I'm this was the the food truck committee that met and then she's from what I'm hearing spoke with Mr. Blount after that. Right. But I believe uh Councilman Alexander you attended the food truck committee meeting. Yes, I did. Yes. But there wasn't there was not a coronet, it was not a it was not a um public [2:08:48, 2:08:56]: Right. [2:08:56, 2:09:14]: But I wasn't there because if so it would have been a quorum if we all would have been there, but everyone else received the call, I didn't. So I just want the public to know that I don't have all of that information. I'm for food truck but I don't have all the information so I can't vote. [2:09:14, 2:09:30]: That's what I wanted to make sure that I'm m let everyone be aware. Understood and uh Mayor Mill, just for the record, the clerk was this was not a published meeting. Um this was a committee meeting for the food truck committee. So it's not something that I would have sent out to the council that [2:09:31, 2:09:32]: This would not have happened. [2:09:33, 2:09:46]: But we Ma Mayor Neal, we just really uh my whole goal tonight is just to bring it out in front of the entire council and make the motion as we did. That's all. Okay, we have a motion and we had a second. Is that correct? [2:09:46, 2:09:49]: Uh so and we've had our discussion. [2:09:49, 2:10:00]: Oh I'm sorry, Mr Ford, go ahead. Just with clarity, uh right now it's advertised at seven weeks. If you take it all the way to the end of August, which is five weeks, five Tuesdays in August it makes it twelve [2:10:00, 2:10:02]: Weeks, just want you to know it's twelve weeks, okay? [2:10:02, 2:10:03]: That's all. Thank you. [2:10:04, 2:10:06]: Okay. Um [2:10:07, 2:10:10]: Do um at this time we'll have our vote. All in favor? [2:10:13, 2:10:14]: All opposed? [2:10:16, 2:10:20]: All abstaining. Okay? Thank you so much. [2:10:20, 2:10:40]: All right, we'll start down on the end with Mr Alexander if he has a comment that he'd like to make before we close. Yes, I do, and I would like to say to everybody that came out tonight, I appreciate your attendance and I do want to address uh the issue to uh jet ladies and gentlemen that they come along. First of all [2:10:40, 2:11:00]: All councilman to former Councilman Thomas, you're better than to come to the podium and to call someone a coward. I know these people didn't come here tonight to represent um this cause and to represent Miss Hambrick and to have you stand at the podium and call somebody a coward that is beneath you. I would like to say to [2:11:00, 2:11:20]: the individuals all of you are here to support uh Miss Hambrick and to the Miss Hambrick family. Let me know let me let you know one thing that I too feel the same way that you do about Miss Hambrick's service to the community. It is exemplary. It is uh beyond a reproach. It is uh [2:11:20, 2:11:40]: One of those things that the c community wants to highlight. The first thing that I want to say to you all is that we have every intention of honoring Miss Hamburg in the manner that she deserves. The point that the contention that was made among us was simply this is putting the king name on the outside of the building, Martin Luther King's [2:11:40, 2:12:00]: Senior brings in hundreds of thousands of additional dollars and support for that particular project. The proposal is to have the Carrie May Hambrick um museum or room inside the community featuring all the information about Miss Hambrick and everything. [2:12:00, 2:12:20]: Every other uh citizen that contributed to uh the movement and to the history of Stockbridge. So the idea is not to remove Miss Hambrick's name uh uh from the building completely. The idea is to have it show the King legacy. So we will expose Miss Hambrick to uh [2:12:20, 2:12:40]: number uh all over the nation of individuals. Every time someone would research the King project, the first thing that they would see is they would see the Martin Luther King Senior Center in Atlanta and before that they would below that they would have the Martin Luther King Senior Center here in Startbridge. So as a two [2:12:40, 2:13:00]: Tourists all over the country you would be coming to visit, you could make two stops. One in Atlanta to tour the Martin Luther King Junior Center, and you would come here to Stockbridge to tour the Martin Luther King Senior Center. Think about how many hundreds of thousands of people would now be drawn together. [2:13:00, 2:13:20]: to the city of Stockbridge to learn about Miss Hambrick as well because they would be coming to the Carrie May Hambrick Museum inside the facility if we could blanch that out. So the idea is not to dishonor Miss Hambrick's service. The idea is to expose it to as many [2:13:20, 2:13:40]: people as possible because if we named the center after Martin Luther King Sr. what would happen is it would be every time somebody would Google the facility, every time somebody would look at the state tourism board, every time somebody would look up the facility, they would be able to find it and they would be able to identify [2:13:40, 2:14:00]: With Miss Hambrick every time they came to Stockbridge because the Carrie May Hambrick Museum, a room inside the building, would identify everything that she did for the city and everything that she did for the facility. The idea is to continue to honor Miss Hambrick to more people and to expose that. [2:14:00, 2:14:12]: throughout the nation, throughout the United States of America, so not only the local residents know about Miss Hambrick, but people throughout the United States of America would come here. [2:14:13, 2:14:33]: the CR facility and they too would learn about Ms. Hambrick's legacy. So the idea is not to reduce the legacy, the idea is to expand it and to also at the same time honor the King family here in Stockbridge so that everybody is clearly aware of the King family. [2:14:33, 2:14:43]: King Legacy. We started off, and I'll give Councilman Thomas credit, we did move into the direction of naming the street Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [2:14:44, 2:15:04]: We did we did that, but at that point we dropped the ball. We haven't done anything since that point. If we were able to move forward with uh actually establishing a Martin Luther King senior heritage all over the city, including the downtown, we would include Miss Hambrick in every single fabric of that. [2:15:04, 2:15:08]: So that people all over America can identify with [2:15:09, 2:15:26]: the greatness of not only Martin Luther King Senior, but Miss Hambrick as well, because she's integral part of the city of Stockbridge. It's not about being disloyal to anyone. It's about exposing that legacy to most the most peace people possible. And I can simply tell you [2:15:27, 2:15:40]: By changing by putting the the king name on the outside of that building, hundreds of thousands of additional dollars would be available to the city to market it. And we could market it to the entire United States of America. [2:15:42, 2:15:45]: Thank you for your comments, Mr. Blount. [2:15:46, 2:15:47]: Yes, I uh [2:15:48, 2:15:52]: When I visit my relatives and everybody across uh [2:15:52, 2:15:53]: This country. [2:15:54, 2:15:58]: Even when I went over out of this country, people asked me who is Jackson? [2:15:59, 2:16:09]: Why did we change the airport to Hartsville, Jackson? Who is Jackson? Who is Jackson? I told them that he meant a lot to the city of Atlanta. That's why they changed it to Hartsville, Jackson. [2:16:10, 2:16:14]: And so now it becomes it just rolls off our tongue. Now Hartfield Jackson. [2:16:14, 2:16:18]: And it's still the number one airport in the country. [2:16:19, 2:16:24]: The name changed and is still the number one airport in the country. [2:16:24, 2:16:28]: I'm one hundred percent for Carrie May Hamburg name being on that building. [2:16:29, 2:16:31]: Because she was a servant. [2:16:31, 2:16:33]: Whoever's gonna come to stop Bridge [2:16:34, 2:16:36]: They're gonna still come to Stockbridge. [2:16:36, 2:16:40]: Whoever's gonna stay out of stock bridge, they're gonna still stay out of stock bridge. [2:16:41, 2:16:47]: But one of the things we can say we're proud of is that we named a building after somebody that represents servanthood. [2:16:47, 2:16:51]: I had one of my best hot dogs the other day over at the uh cookout. [2:16:52, 2:16:55]: So that in itself makes me want to say carame hamburger. [2:16:56, 2:17:00]: She represented something as I learned the history of her. [2:17:00, 2:17:03]: See that very much very much [2:17:03, 2:17:15]: to in my opinion, deserving of this building being named after her. I would never wanna ever see a a building named after someone torn down and then renamed. [2:17:16, 2:17:19]: How debilitating that is to a family to see that. [2:17:20, 2:17:25]: But to tear it down and to build it up into the a beautiful edifice [2:17:25, 2:17:35]: Because like I said, whoever's gonna come to Stockbridge still will come to Stockbridge. And we're talking about an is an a an a council that's aggressive. [2:17:36, 2:17:38]: If we're gonna build it, they'll come. [2:17:38, 2:17:41]: If we're gonna bring restaurants, they'll come. [2:17:42, 2:17:45]: It's not in the name, it's in the service. [2:17:46, 2:18:02]: We don't know t uh mother Teresa by a building. We knew her by her service. But I'm guaranteeing you you go to wherever she comes from, they got something in representation of her and I think that this is a awesome representation from Miss Carrie May Hambert from the history that I know of. [2:18:02, 2:18:12]: So who was Jackson? He was a servant and his name is on the airport that never changed. Who is Carame Hambrick? I want to see her name put on that building when it when it comes up. [2:18:13, 2:18:14]: Thank you for coming. [2:18:15, 2:18:35]: Uh Mr. Fulward. Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate it. Uh first of all folks, I want to tell you uh I think we had a great uh activity just the other day, the Memorial Day March from Earl Manors to Memorial Park. Uh always as we do things uh for city events or any event, we always re do uh uh an AR after that trying to improve on [2:18:35, 2:18:47]: on the event to make streamline it and make it even bigger and better and that's what we plan to do. So thank you for your participation folks and uh and I appreciate uh everybody that uh was able to c screaming come on out. [2:18:47, 2:19:07]: Uh the second thing I want to mention is'cause it's not on the actual meeting events, it deals with the uh one Henry Tech and T that we're going to have on June twenty second at Merrill Manors Conference Center from five to eight. And so if you're an entrepreneur in the tech industry or want to get started and and uh as an entrepreneur in [2:19:07, 2:19:18]: tech industry, uh please go on the website at uh for Stockbridge and there'll be a uh a icon or a page there that you can actually register on for that particular event. [2:19:19, 2:19:37]: And the um so please do that if you're interested. The other thing I also want to address this um Carrie May Hamrick issue in our cultural and enrichment center, cultural arts and richness center. Uh I was part of the council initially in December twenty fifteen to actually approve that and was at the dedication ceremony. [2:19:38, 2:19:39]: Now granted [2:19:39, 2:19:50]: Kamer Hamrick along with uh Daddy King are both outstanding African American citizens in their own right. And of course Daddy King with the King family name has has international appeal. [2:19:50, 2:19:51]: Uh without a doubt. [2:19:51, 2:19:57]: Um, but I I would also tell you to get to the point that I'm not interested in changing the name [2:19:57, 2:19:59]: to something else other than carrying my hammer it. [2:20:00, 2:20:10]: Let me also uh s bring something to your attention. It should be pretty obvious to you, but just in case the the precedence has already been set, folks in council. Because if you think about it, this building [2:20:10, 2:20:11]: The city hall. [2:20:12, 2:20:15]: Rhee Kelly Municipal Building, Tess Strickland Community Centre, [2:20:16, 2:20:18]: Harold Clarkman has a safety center and a library. [2:20:19, 2:20:23]: and Murray Manor's Conference Center. They have something very similar with Kerry Mayhammer. [2:20:23, 2:20:28]: have at least three things I would imagine. But first of all they uh they're um [2:20:29, 2:20:46]: They're all past unfortunately in this case. The other thing is that not only are servants of the city, the lifetime residents of the city. Each one of those individuals has been in the city their life. They may not I don't know all the history of them, may not have been born here, but they were they lived here for many, many years. [2:20:46, 2:20:47]: Guess what? [2:20:48, 2:20:49]: Daddy King. [2:20:49, 2:20:50]: Was born an area? [2:20:51, 2:21:03]: Daddy King was here for a while. He gave his first preaching uh right here at Floyd Chapel. But eventually or soon after that or whenever it was he left. I don't know why he left, I don't want to debate that. But he left and went to Atlanta. [2:21:04, 2:21:06]: And it it came world renowned. [2:21:06, 2:21:22]: Yeah, without a doubt. No doubt about that. But you know what? If you really want to get down to the nuts and bolts of this, he's not a lifetime resident of Stockbridge. He has roots here, yes. Ancestral home, yes. Did he visit Stockbridge uh after he left and went to Atlanta and come back and visit his parents? I'm pretty sure he did. [2:21:23, 2:21:25]: But the point of it is he's not a lifetime resident. [2:21:26, 2:21:27]: He was not. It's factual. [2:21:28, 2:21:35]: Every building, municipal building, city stopbridge are named after lifetime residents of the city. [2:21:35, 2:21:37]: And they all were servants to the city. [2:21:37, 2:21:45]: So the name should not change and I'm as long as I'm in involved with the council we'll have a vote on that. I I won't change that name. It'll be Carrie May Hammer. [2:21:46, 2:21:49]: Yeah, and now what we can do is you can actually [2:21:50, 2:21:55]: honor and and honor the king legacy and the family inside that particular center. [2:21:56, 2:22:12]: And expand it. With with anybody else that is worthy of recognition for the service they've done for this uh area, the county, the city specifically, well if they came on this particular area and became national heroes. It can all be done for them as a as well. But [2:22:13, 2:22:21]: The precedent's been set. I'll say it again. Every municipal city named after an individual is a lifetime resident of the city. Guaranteed. [2:22:22, 2:22:22]: Thank you. [2:22:25, 2:22:27]: Uh Miss Gantt. [2:22:27, 2:22:47]: I would like to thank everyone for coming out today. Um and I ask that you continue to keep us in your prayers and um I thank you for your support. I also um I too want to let everyone know I I concur and I I want and it's uh with honor to honor [2:22:47, 2:22:50]: Honor um Miss Carrie May Hambrick. [2:22:50, 2:22:55]: I no doubt of my mind would I think otherwise than to [2:22:55, 2:23:11]: we we tore down a building um or in the process of doing that in order to make something great and grand for someone who gave back so much to our community um as a whole. And so it is important to keep that. Um I don't think [2:23:11, 2:23:13]: There are plenty, if you think about it. [2:23:13, 2:23:33]: In other cities there might be M L King high schools and Margaret King recreational centers. That doesn't keep and that does not bring other people in into their their area. Um, you know, they're honoring a name just like President Barack Obama has buildings named after him now. I can't really uh [2:23:33, 2:23:53]: I I don't foresee just because the buildings being named after individual that more people will come to that particular facility because of it. It's what's inside of that facility that counts, what matters. Um and this is not for the nations. I don't think we've even discussed um we haven't planned yet what's gonna be [2:23:53, 2:24:10]: in that building. You know, uh someone may have a different opinion than I do. I I'm hoping that we have something for seniors and for youth, that we have some big facility such as similar to a boys and girls club, but it could be a great community center, rec center, um meeting center. [2:24:10, 2:24:30]: And so we haven't gotten that far, um, but yet we're in a discussion on what this name should be. And the name I think should remain the same name that we've already dedicated in honor um to Miss Hambrick. It's an honor uh because as a woman of service and as an African-American female with the business, Miss Hambrick. [2:24:30, 2:24:50]: Kembrick paved the way for me. And so she has my vote. And I believe we have a consensus right here on the dais already. Um the the thing is what is that community center gonna be like? And I don't want the land to just sit there. I don't want it to be stagnant. We've agreed to build, um, and we've agreed to do that. And it's not for other people, it's for us. [2:24:50, 2:25:00]: us the citizens here in the city of Stockbridge for our youth, our seniors, for our community, for our families. So that's what I'm concerned with. Um [2:25:00, 2:25:20]: Also we have a summer series coming on moving forward and it's a a great time of the year. We've already mentioned the food trucks, but in addition to that we're gonna have movie nights, we're gonna have summer concerts and so much more. Um and I just look forward to fellowshipping with each and every one of you. If you have any questions. [2:25:20, 2:25:28]: questions or or comments, concerns, please feel free to email me or call me or contact me and reach out to me. Thank you. [2:25:29, 2:25:31]: Uh Miss Robinson. Yes. [2:25:31, 2:25:34]: Um just want to thank everyone for coming out. [2:25:34, 2:25:39]: No, it's been a uh kind of long meeting, but of course, um it would [2:25:40, 2:26:00]: not be good if I didn't respond to Miss Carrie May. Um I actually ate the hot dogs because I grew up around Miss Carrie May. Um so I know all the good things that she did for the community. But I just want to say to everyone that is here. Um [2:26:00, 2:26:20]: As count um Mayor Pro Tem Ford stated, in December twenty fifteen all of this took place. When I was in elected in November, um what I received was the building was not i it was in poor condition. Really they didn't know what they were gonna do um with that building. [2:26:20, 2:26:23]: So when we came on, that's when Mort [2:26:23, 2:26:38]: details came for that building because the previous administration at that time before um mayor before they went out I was told that the building was in poor condition. So again I was elected in November [2:26:38, 2:26:48]: this took place in December, um, before I actually was sworn in. So I just wanna say I I'm just disheartened because [2:26:49, 2:26:58]: politics got into the good of a woman that did extremely awesome for this community. And [2:27:00, 2:27:02]: Administration changes. [2:27:02, 2:27:10]: And that's the part that I don't like because we don't know really if that building is gonna go up this year. And this is election year. [2:27:10, 2:27:15]: And the sad part is I don't want her legacy to be caught up [2:27:15, 2:27:16]: in the changeover. [2:27:17, 2:27:18]: So [2:27:18, 2:27:23]: I don't know with our attorney, is that something that we can, you know [2:27:24, 2:27:42]: I don't know. I just don't want it to be new administration because what I've learned is through Henry County, um what we're trying to do with our Main Street is new branding. And I had to get an understanding in order for us to be recognized [2:27:43, 2:27:50]: you know, through Henry County because they have um an initiative that says history has a name. [2:27:50, 2:27:55]: And I couldn't understand why Stockbridge wasn't recognized. [2:27:55, 2:27:58]: Even with the c um Floyd Chapel. [2:27:59, 2:28:12]: But I had to go and attend meetings to understand get an understanding of why things were not happening. So with all that said and anybody that I come in contact with, I'm asking each of you. [2:28:13, 2:28:22]: Each of you knowing the good of this, get get a understanding for yourself. We have staff that you can always come in and ask questions. [2:28:23, 2:28:25]: [8905.4, 8910.4]: And that way you'll have a understanding to know what's really going on. [2:28:30, 2:28:33]: Because right now with the politics part [2:28:34, 2:28:37]: I just don't want her name to be [2:28:38, 2:28:39]: Dishonored. [2:28:39, 2:28:45]: And Miss Carame did a lot. I loved Miss Carame. And the part is again [2:28:45, 2:28:57]: I need for everyone. You can attend an event, you can hear this, but it's different when you get your own understanding. And please come to City Hall, ask your questions. [2:28:57, 2:29:02]: Ask your questions. Don't rely on one, two or three people. [2:29:02, 2:29:08]: Ask your questions so that way you will hold this city a [2:29:08, 2:29:12]: accountable to do what it said it's going to do. [2:29:13, 2:29:17]: And that's what I wanna say. Thank you everyone for coming out. Um [2:29:17, 2:29:20]: But I love the family and they know it. Um [2:29:20, 2:29:22]: But just again [2:29:22, 2:29:26]: Get your own understanding so that way this can move forward. [2:29:28, 2:29:40]: Thank you. Uh I too would like to thank everyone for coming this evening and for your patience. Um we've been here two and a half hours. I want to remind you if you did not pick up an agenda when you came in [2:29:40, 2:29:43]: Please do so outside so that you can [2:29:43, 2:30:03]: See some of the um upcoming city meetings and events and announcements. They are clearly printed for you. I would call'em out, but they're so many. I'm going to ask you to take that home with you and save it so you can put it on your calendar. Also we have some upcoming council member um community meetings. [2:30:03, 2:30:04]: And um [2:30:05, 2:30:05]: Um [2:30:05, 2:30:09]: and or some of their initiatives that are coming up. [2:30:09, 2:30:21]: Those also they're on page four of your agenda that you picked up coming in the door. Please take that home with you. I see some of you looking at it. Save that so that you can come out to some of those events. [2:30:22, 2:30:22]: And [2:30:23, 2:30:25]: Also at this time I want to ask our attorney [2:30:26, 2:30:29]: um if we have a need for an executive session. [2:30:29, 2:30:33]: Yes, ma'am, for uh litigation personnel and real estate. [2:30:34, 2:30:41]: Okay. At this time um I'm gonna ask uh from the council uh for a motion to go to executive session. [2:30:41, 2:30:46]: Mayor, I move that we go into executive session for litigation personnel and real estate. [2:30:46, 2:30:54]: I'll see you and and a second from Mr. Ford. Is there any discussion on going into the executive session? [2:30:55, 2:30:57]: If not, all in favor. [2:30:58, 2:31:09]: Okay. Uh those in the audience, you're uh welcome to wait for us to come out or you may um take your agenda home and look at all the items that are listed on it. [2:31:13, 2:31:16]: Oh, yeah. [2:31:35, 2:31:37]: Have an extra one, give it to Vanessa. [2:31:38, 2:31:51]: A little bit of background about it. [2:31:52, 2:32:12]: Yeah, we've got to do that. [2:32:12, 2:32:23]: Yeah, uh, uh, what you're saying is. [2:32:25, 2:32:35]: [9165.0, 9180.0]: [2:33:05, 2:33:25]: Yeah. [2:33:25, 2:33:35]: Yeah, I think it's like [2:33:40, 2:34:00]: I thought my thing is not detailed. [2:33:59, 2:34:19]: You didn't respond to me in my other message. [2:34:19, 2:34:39]: And so when I did that but I was just [2:34:39, 2:34:59]: Is that because we store a couple days ago? We talked about a human plan, but no problem, it all worked out, good range, the other. Right. I'm glad it's a good [2:34:59, 2:35:19]: Yes, sir. Yes sir. All right now good session. Yes, yes, they know they also. [2:35:19, 2:35:39]: [9339.6, 9359.6]: I mean there's a lot of adventures of just one thing at a time. One thing at a time. And I've been worried more than I would like to try to tell us historical preservation. [2:35:59, 2:36:12]: [9380.0, 9400.0]: [2:36:40, 2:37:00]: No, let's move it on the next one. I just want to charm the bottom. [2:36:59, 2:37:10]: [9430.0, 9450.0]: [2:37:30, 2:37:35]: [9463.0, 9466.6]: [2:38:05, 2:38:15]: [9505.0, 9515.6]: [2:38:42, 2:39:02]: [9542.0, 9562.0]: But those are all the people. [2:39:22, 2:39:42]: [9581.9, 9601.9]: [2:40:01, 2:40:21]: Yes. I think um this would not make um [2:40:21, 2:40:41]: So I think [2:40:41, 2:40:55]: [9681.9, 9688.6]: [2:41:45, 2:41:47]: [9716.1, 9723.9]: [2:42:04, 2:42:06]: Uh [2:42:10, 2:42:15]: [9738.9, 9745.0]: Five. [2:42:26, 2:42:32]: On that kind of

--- title: May 8 2017 City Council Meeting date: 2017-05-08 source: 2017-05-08_May_8_2017_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:04]: Yes, please. [0:00:08, 0:00:11]: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, it is now six PM. [0:00:12, 0:00:14]: We will begin our meeting. [0:00:14, 0:00:18]: At this time I would ask our clerk if she will call the roll. [0:00:22, 0:00:24]: [ 30.2, 32.9]: Okay, sorry. I'm rushing the role called. [0:00:33, 0:00:35]: Okay, sorry about that. [0:00:35, 0:00:38]: At this time we are delighted this evening to have [0:00:39, 0:00:51]: with us Pastor Matt Grimes from Stockbridge um from Liberty Baptist Church and we're gonna ask Pastor Grimes uh if he'll come forward and say our invitation for us. [0:01:01, 0:01:14]: Before I pray, can I just say you city council, you're on our s our Wednesday night prayer list at church, one of those old fashioned churches that still does Wednesday night prayer meetings and you all are on our prayer list every Wednesday, so we pray for you, okay? Yes, sir. Okay. [0:01:14, 0:01:34]: Let's pray. Lord, uh, tonight we come to you and ask you to first of all give us wisdom as we make decisions, Lord. We want uh to be a blessing to the entire city of Stockbridge and the community. We want you to bless and lead these uh gentlemen and ladies as they lead us, and Lord bless them in a special way. And you told us that if we lack wisdom, let us ask of you. So we ask that today, God, and we do thank you. [0:01:34, 0:01:54]: Thank you in advance for what you may do in this place today and help us to uh do all things to give you glory and honor. Bless our community and bless our leaders, bless our public safety personnel and all of the staff of the city of Stockbridge in a special way. Lord, thank you for this wonderful day and we give you praise and give you glory and ask you to do today in our hearts, but only you can do give us a great meeting. [0:01:54, 0:01:58]: And Lord your will be done. I pray in Jesus' name. Amen. [0:01:58, 0:01:58]: Thank you. [0:01:59, 0:02:04]: If I could ask everyone to remain standing and our scouts to come forward. [0:02:05, 0:02:07]: We're gonna have them lead us in the pledge. [0:02:40, 0:02:47]: [171.6, 172.5]: Communist. [0:02:53, 0:02:55]: Appreciate his gaps. [0:02:59, 0:02:59]: Got it. [0:03:07, 0:03:14]: Okay, now this time we'll ask our clerk to have the roll call. Councilman Alexander. [0:03:15, 0:03:19]: That the record reflect Councilman Alexander is not in attendance. [0:03:19, 0:03:21]: Councilman Blount. [0:03:21, 0:03:22]: Mayor Neal. [0:03:23, 0:03:27]: Present. Mayor Pro Tem Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:03:30, 0:03:36]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. Let the record reflect Councilman Alexander has arrived. [0:03:39, 0:03:40]: Councilwoman Robinson. [0:03:41, 0:03:42]: Present. [0:03:42, 0:03:44]: Mayor Neil, you have a quorum. [0:03:44, 0:03:45]: Thank you. [0:03:46, 0:03:53]: At this time I am going to um ask if anyone has a motion for approval of the minutes. [0:03:55, 0:03:57]: or adopt the agenda. [0:03:58, 0:04:02]: Mayor Neil. Mayor Neil, um we have a question that came up from staff. [0:04:03, 0:04:11]: You have an item on the agenda, um item number three, which uh addresses the uh GIS planning position. [0:04:11, 0:04:23]: And uh staff would like the opportunity to discuss that with you in executive session before y'all move on that. So it may be appropriate to move that to the end of the agenda if that's the council's wish. [0:04:24, 0:04:27]: Moves item three to the end of the agenda. [0:04:27, 0:04:30]: Okay. Do I hear motion to that effect? [0:04:32, 0:04:33]: I'll second that. [0:04:34, 0:04:38]: Motion by Councilman Alexander and a second by Pratim Ford. [0:04:39, 0:04:39]: Mayor. [0:04:40, 0:04:46]: I also like to amend the agenda because Councilwoman Gantt's not here on the two items that she was going to discuss. [0:04:46, 0:04:50]: Item number one and item number two that they be re be removed from the uh [0:04:51, 0:04:52]: uh from the agenda. [0:04:53, 0:04:56]: Okay, we have a motion that lets just be tabled. [0:04:57, 0:05:02]: And removed from tonight's agenda. Do I hear a motion to that effect? [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: Or second for that. [0:05:05, 0:05:06]: I'll second that. Thank you. [0:05:11, 0:05:11]: They vote on it. [0:05:13, 0:05:19]: The amend amend the um agenda amend the motion to include those two items. [0:05:21, 0:05:26]: Do I hear an amend an an amended motion to include those three items? [0:05:28, 0:05:29]: Mayor. [0:05:30, 0:05:34]: I would motion that we amend the agenda to include those three items that have just been discussed. [0:05:35, 0:05:37]: Pertaining to our current agenda. [0:05:38, 0:05:40]: Do I hear a second? [0:05:42, 0:06:00]: I'll second that, but I thought I would second the You did. Um Mr. Alexander would need to make the amendment because your original amendment was to m move the item down to below executive session. We've had a request to also remove items number one and two. So if you would amend your [0:06:00, 0:06:06]: motion. Uh I just made the motion to to to approve the agenda as it was, right? So I mean [0:06:07, 0:06:10]: I didn't make the motion to to make the changes. [0:06:11, 0:06:20]: I no no. Madam Mayor, just to clarify, if I could state the motion and have someone so move, the motion will be [0:06:20, 0:06:23]: to remove items one and two and to move [0:06:24, 0:06:27]: Uh item three to the end of the agenda. So moved. [0:06:27, 0:06:28]: Thank you. [0:06:28, 0:06:33]: Okay, we now have an official motion and a second. [0:06:33, 0:06:36]: Do you want any discussion? Do you want any discussion? No. [0:06:37, 0:06:38]: Uh uh. [0:06:39, 0:06:46]: Okay. Okay. Let's pause. Do we have any discussion? [0:06:48, 0:06:50]: Okay, no discussion? [0:06:51, 0:06:52]: All in favor? [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: Thank you. [0:06:56, 0:06:59]: Now I need a motion to approve some minutes. [0:07:00, 0:07:06]: From March thirteenth and from March twenty eighth, do I hear a motion to approve those minutes? [0:07:08, 0:07:16]: Have a motion. Make a motion that we approve the minutes from March thirteenth to march twenty eighth, twenty seventeen. Second. [0:07:16, 0:07:22]: Okay, we have a motion and a second to approve those amendments. Do we have any discussion on that? [0:07:23, 0:07:25]: If not, all in favor. [0:07:27, 0:07:27]: Thank you. [0:07:30, 0:07:35]: If any of you just came in before you did before you came. [0:07:35, 0:07:38]: We recognize some of our staff. [0:07:38, 0:07:55]: for public service recognition week for those that are in the room we would invite them to stand. The city of Stockbridge runs so well because of wonderfully dedicated employees. And I would like for those that are here to be recognized and stand. [0:08:08, 0:08:10]: I want to remind everyone if you have [0:08:11, 0:08:27]: uh um an item that you want to come and speak at the podium if you would please quickly go out and get your paperwork, fill it out, bring it to the clerk. We'll go ahead and get started. Madam Clerk, do we have any people who have asked to speak? [0:08:34, 0:08:36]: Madam Clark, do we have any? [0:08:39, 0:08:41]: Mr. Jackson. [0:08:42, 0:08:46]: Ms. Jackson, will you come up? You'll have three minutes if you would come to the podium. [0:08:57, 0:09:03]: Hi, my name is Darlene Jackson. I reside at four two eight Tina Hilly Court, Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:09:04, 0:09:08]: Um I'm coming to the meeting to address the rezoning. [0:09:08, 0:09:17]: We had a discussion a while back about the uh assisted living s facility and the materials that were gonna be needed. [0:09:18, 0:09:21]: I uh brought to the council [0:09:21, 0:09:25]: Was that a way of Eagles Landing trying to break away then? [0:09:25, 0:09:27]: And at the time I was told [0:09:28, 0:09:35]: that uh know that there's no means or no um plans to rezone. [0:09:36, 0:09:42]: I oppose of that. I'm here to speak about that and I hope everybody staying behind us. [0:09:42, 0:09:44]: 'Cause I really want to stay in Stockbridge. [0:09:45, 0:09:45]: Thank you. [0:09:46, 0:09:48]: Do we have have others? [0:09:53, 0:09:56]: [597.0, 598.1]: Oh. [0:10:08, 0:10:11]: Good afternoon, or I guess yeah. [0:10:13, 0:10:14]: [616.5, 620.0]: Leonard Yancey one hundred forty nine Misty Ridge Trail. [0:10:21, 0:10:22]: As you people know [0:10:24, 0:10:26]: I've been addressing this same issue. [0:10:31, 0:10:33]: Since right after Kelly left. [0:10:36, 0:10:38]: No it's nuisance. [0:10:41, 0:10:42]: Transfer stations. [0:10:46, 0:10:49]: Starts at six o'clock in the morning. [0:10:50, 0:10:52]: goes to four o'clock in the evening. [0:10:54, 0:10:59]: You got forty homes there affected by this. I'm a hundred foot from it. [0:11:00, 0:11:04]: Hunt or maybe two hundred. What would you say? Well uh three hundred? [0:11:07, 0:11:09]: Sounds like thunder going off. [0:11:11, 0:11:14]: Two years ago I gave you a petition [0:11:17, 0:11:20]: Ain't heard a doggone thing from from none of you. [0:11:21, 0:11:23]: These people want to know what's going on. [0:11:26, 0:11:29]: I think if you had to live under these conditions [0:11:30, 0:11:31]: You do something about it. [0:11:34, 0:11:37]: You can't even sleep in your own home. [0:11:39, 0:11:47]: 'Cause you woke up with this beating and banging going on. Now you got industry coming in. This things have changed. Y'all know, I can discuss that with you. I ain't gonna get into that'cause it [0:11:48, 0:11:56]: You got an industrial waste plant c uh that you're leasing it out to and they cover the surrounding counties and cities, not just Stockbridge. [0:11:56, 0:11:57]: Mm-hmm. [0:12:00, 0:12:01]: But if she would [0:12:02, 0:12:03]: You gotta owe [0:12:04, 0:12:05]: And a charter. [0:12:06, 0:12:11]: In that Charter it says it's supposed to provide us a a healthy place to live in. [0:12:15, 0:12:17]: If you would give me an answer. [0:12:18, 0:12:19]: And now. [0:12:20, 0:12:21]: Make plans to move. [0:12:22, 0:12:26]: And these other people that signed the petition they want to know too. [0:12:28, 0:12:30]: Well I stopped coming up here'cause when you [0:12:30, 0:12:37]: Come up here and you don't get no response in some of these e things. Now I'm not saying you guys are all bad. [0:12:38, 0:12:43]: This council here at least give me a noise nuisance for the Memorial Parks. [0:12:45, 0:12:47]: But we can't seem to get it enforced. [0:12:49, 0:12:52]: Uh Morgan I'm talking with Judy and um [0:12:55, 0:12:57]: New captain over there. I believe he's a good thing. [0:12:59, 0:13:13]: See the right hand don't know what the left hand do. This this weekend, Saturday, same thing again. So I call at four thirty five. Dispatcher he I said, we the city hires one officer to to cover two parks. [0:13:14, 0:13:16]: I hate to tell you which time's up. [0:13:17, 0:13:20]: Thanks. [0:13:21, 0:13:21]: Thank you. [0:13:24, 0:13:33]: Mr. Yancey has also filled out a second public comment card regarding the City of Eagles Landing. It shows up to the council. [0:13:34, 0:13:37]: Is is that okay for a person to speak twice? [0:13:37, 0:13:40]: Council's discretion, how you want to handle that. Mayor. [0:13:40, 0:13:41]: I uh [0:13:42, 0:13:45]: I'd like to amend that for Mr. Yancey to speak upon what he wants to speak on. [0:13:46, 0:13:52]: All in agreement? Okay. Mr. Yantsy, come back and talk to us about that. [0:13:57, 0:14:01]: See, the problem is we've been been dealing with this stuff for [0:14:02, 0:14:03]: Seven eight years. [0:14:04, 0:14:08]: Different councils, different mayors. He heck we've had four four or five [0:14:09, 0:14:10]: Uh [0:14:10, 0:14:12]: G Myers and uh [0:14:12, 0:14:13]: Managers. [0:14:14, 0:14:16]: So you have to start all over with them. [0:14:17, 0:14:19]: I know that's probably part of it. [0:14:19, 0:14:27]: I don't you know, I don't come up here and get into it that heavy'cause it drives me crazy just to come up here when I do and and not see things get done. [0:14:27, 0:14:36]: in a manner it would take two or three years or more. Mr. Yancey, talk to us about Eagles Landing. Eagles Landing. Well I am. This is my point. Okay. [0:14:38, 0:14:39]: The point is [0:14:40, 0:14:42]: Took Mr. Harris three years. [0:14:43, 0:14:45]: And a council [0:14:45, 0:14:49]: to get the noise nuisance to where we could get something done. [0:14:50, 0:14:52]: And my w the reason uh it [0:14:53, 0:15:04]: Well I my thinking is if we can get Eagles Landing in here and get some uh clean this place out and start all over and get something going and go by the charter [0:15:08, 0:15:17]: And do and a I got do you don't do you think I got legitimate cause for some of these things I'm asking you people to do under the charter and the oath? [0:15:19, 0:15:20]: Maybe we can get some. [0:15:21, 0:15:24]: New ideas and some people in here and some money. [0:15:25, 0:15:31]: And rename and join the s m I don't know how I how you how you would do it, but uh [0:15:32, 0:15:34]: Something needs to be done around here'cause [0:15:35, 0:15:41]: I think y you got t people are getting it it takes I know it's hard but uh [0:15:43, 0:15:45]: It something needs to change. [0:15:46, 0:15:48]: Y'all fight one another, you know. [0:15:48, 0:15:49]: We keep [0:15:50, 0:15:52]: Running folks off that's been here. [0:15:53, 0:15:57]: Or maybe they left, I don't know, maybe they left under their own authority, gotta [0:15:58, 0:16:01]: But uh thank you for letting me speak and um [0:16:03, 0:16:07]: I says it's to the point of just getting the heck outta here. [0:16:08, 0:16:09]: And um [0:16:10, 0:16:15]: I mean if if I didn't have to put up with the noise you wouldn't never see me. [0:16:15, 0:16:17]: But I like my peace and quiet. [0:16:19, 0:16:21]: Thank you, Mr. Yancey. [0:16:21, 0:16:23]: Do we have other speakers? [0:16:25, 0:16:26]: Mr. Wendell Moore. [0:16:33, 0:16:34]: Don't small with that yet. [0:16:35, 0:16:37]: I won't. [0:16:42, 0:16:43]: [1005.5, 1010.0]: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. Uh I've been absent a long time, so [0:16:50, 0:16:51]: I got lots to talk about. [0:16:51, 0:16:54]: In three minutes it just won't hardly get it, but I'll try. [0:16:55, 0:17:01]: We got a situation in Wild Wind Subdivision where the streets caving in. I showed Mr. Blount a picture of it. [0:17:01, 0:17:03]: And I could show the rest of you a picture of it. [0:17:03, 0:17:07]: Uh we've complained to the City Works Department, nothing's been done about it. [0:17:08, 0:17:10]: The rain comes, it gets to about a foot down there. [0:17:11, 0:17:16]: where the covers are and they're supposed to be empty water and everything like that, it doesn't do it. [0:17:17, 0:17:20]: So we got water standing there for about it's about a foot deep. [0:17:21, 0:17:24]: And th this is one thing we need to take care of. [0:17:25, 0:17:27]: We've asked about street sweeping and uh [0:17:28, 0:17:33]: You know, we've had no luck on that. Thank God that the rain come and it washed the trash all to the [0:17:33, 0:17:35]: through the covers where you can do it. [0:17:36, 0:17:38]: Mr. Yancey has a viable point. [0:17:38, 0:17:42]: When it gets above eighty degrees you can smell the transfer station. [0:17:42, 0:17:45]: They supposed to have sanitary scrubber fund in there. [0:17:45, 0:17:52]: We talked to the man last year, it was broke. Didn't know when it was gonna get fixed and that's like that. So evidently they haven't fixed it yet. [0:17:54, 0:17:59]: But this is a item, you know, where you're you're m forcing residents to smell garbage. [0:18:00, 0:18:01]: coming from that transfer station. [0:18:02, 0:18:07]: And when they started they start at a certain time, that's not entirely so. [0:18:07, 0:18:11]: Because they start a whole lot earlier and they make a whole lot more noise. [0:18:12, 0:18:15]: And everybody calls me and complains about it and I don't know what to do about it. [0:18:16, 0:18:24]: Because y'all are the ones that signed that contract with'em and gave'em that transfer station over there, and there's about ninety trucks a day comes in that place. [0:18:25, 0:18:38]: When I moved here, that transfer station was a useful stopbridge, there was three or four trucks coming there, which was fine. Now you got a big commercial thing going on. You got trucks coming in and out of a street that says no trucks on it. [0:18:38, 0:18:41]: Got a big old orange sign over there that says no trucks on it. [0:18:41, 0:18:44]: And yet you got those garbage trucks coming in and out every day. [0:18:45, 0:18:48]: So I d I don't understand what's going on. [0:18:48, 0:18:54]: I know that there are problems and there's things you got to deal with and things that goes on but [0:18:54, 0:18:56]: You know, it's above my head probably. [0:18:56, 0:19:00]: But that transfer station and the smell coming off of it is something that can be fixed. [0:19:01, 0:19:12]: They do have scrubbers that goes on that thing to kill that smell and I don't see where it's either y'all's responsibility or it's their responsibility to keep those scrubbers running and keep that smell down. [0:19:14, 0:19:20]: Thank you, Mr Yancey. I met Mr. I'm doing good. Well yeah, you're doing good. You owe me a dinner. [0:19:21, 0:19:24]: I bought you breakfast now. [0:19:24, 0:19:26]: I guess I'm anamel have to buy you lunch. [0:19:27, 0:19:27]: Thank you. [0:19:28, 0:19:28]: Sorry. [0:19:30, 0:19:32]: Uh uh as a point of um [0:19:33, 0:19:46]: information. I have been sick for a couple of weeks and I've taken enough medicine to sink a ship. So if I'm not at my best tonight, I just know that it's uh trying to make my throat well. [0:19:48, 0:19:49]: Mayor Neal. [0:19:49, 0:19:54]: We do have two additional public comment cards, but they both [0:19:54, 0:20:03]: refer to the rezoning item that is on the re uh on the agenda and they would need to speak during the public hearing portion of the meeting. [0:20:05, 0:20:06]: Okay. [0:20:06, 0:20:12]: Those that are here that want to speak for that, if you hear that, you'll be speaking a little bit like when [0:20:14, 0:20:15]: There are no further comments. [0:20:18, 0:20:24]: Okay. At this time we're gonna go to old business. We only have [0:20:25, 0:20:29]: one item and is being presented by our city attorney. [0:20:30, 0:20:39]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. You have before you uh two items um related to the Youth Council which uh you all [0:20:40, 0:20:40]: Um [0:20:41, 0:20:45]: uh adopted as a program last year [0:20:45, 0:20:46]: Um [0:20:46, 0:20:52]: The Youth Council Advisor Committee has met uh multiple times over the course of [0:20:52, 0:20:54]: this uh year. [0:20:55, 0:20:57]: And they have developed the k the [0:20:58, 0:21:11]: program curriculum which is shown on um the twenty seventeen twenty eighteen calendar that you have. They've also met and interviewed and agreed to select eight [0:21:11, 0:21:21]: um young men and women who will form the city's first youth council. Um I've met them, I've reviewed their [0:21:21, 0:21:22]: Uh [0:21:22, 0:21:26]: information and they are very impressive. I think you all will be very proud [0:21:26, 0:21:34]: The plan is to formally introduce these young men and women to the city in July at a council meeting. [0:21:34, 0:21:39]: Um but there are some uh events that are set forth on the curriculum [0:21:40, 0:21:48]: um that occurred this summer and the first one would be a retreat to send them away for a couple of days to to meet and bond as a a group and [0:21:48, 0:21:53]: and get some introductory information about what the year is gonna be like. [0:21:53, 0:21:53]: Uh [0:21:54, 0:21:59]: That is what's planned and that's what's recommended by the Youth Council Advisory Committee. [0:21:59, 0:22:01]: As previously discussed [0:22:02, 0:22:04]: Uh the idea was to let them meet [0:22:04, 0:22:09]: establish the curriculum, bring that back to you all for your final approval. [0:22:10, 0:22:15]: Um they have done that. So you the the second item you have is an estimated budget. [0:22:16, 0:22:16]: For [0:22:17, 0:22:21]: the end of twenty seventeen's activities and we've also prepared [0:22:21, 0:22:26]: what the budget would look like, the proposed budget for twenty eighteen. So you have [0:22:26, 0:22:35]: uh three spreadsheets in front of you. You have the twenty seventeen budget, which we've estimated it will be about nine thousand dollars for this year. [0:22:36, 0:22:39]: If you will recall the council budgeted ten thousand, so [0:22:40, 0:22:43]: Knock on wood. We're under budget for this year and we think [0:22:43, 0:22:44]: Good. [0:22:44, 0:22:47]: uh estimated fairly conservatively so [0:22:48, 0:22:51]: Um I'm hoping that we really won't spend that much, but [0:22:51, 0:22:54]: But that's the estimate for this year, is about nine thousand. [0:22:55, 0:22:59]: for a full year's worth of activities. You see that on the twenty eighteen [0:23:00, 0:23:00]: Uh [0:23:01, 0:23:01]: Uh [0:23:02, 0:23:05]: uh page that you have in front of you. [0:23:05, 0:23:07]: And that reflects the end. [0:23:07, 0:23:08]: of the [0:23:09, 0:23:14]: uh first year of the youth council and as you know it it's planned to run during [0:23:14, 0:23:17]: concurrent with the school year. So these are all rising [0:23:18, 0:23:21]: sophomores, juniors and seniors who will [0:23:21, 0:23:23]: be in school beginning in August through [0:23:23, 0:23:26]: at the end of the school year next year. So [0:23:26, 0:23:28]: The tw the first year reflects [0:23:28, 0:23:32]: partials for two budget years. The at the end of the twenty seventeen budget [0:23:32, 0:23:38]: and all twenty eighteen. But if you look or or half of twenty eighteen, if you look at the twenty eighteen budget [0:23:38, 0:23:41]: That would reflect what a full year's programme would be. [0:23:42, 0:23:45]: And that's at about eighteen thousand dollars. So that will give you [0:23:46, 0:23:49]: an indication of what it would look like if you had a full year [0:23:50, 0:23:51]: Now the Youth Council Advisory Committee [0:23:52, 0:23:53]: Um certainly [0:23:54, 0:23:56]: um wanted to do everything under budget. [0:23:57, 0:23:58]: Um but if you look at [0:23:59, 0:24:03]: what twenty eighteen looks like it's it's more than ten thousand. That's sort of an obvious thing. [0:24:04, 0:24:06]: One of the things they want to do [0:24:06, 0:24:08]: is solicit private [0:24:08, 0:24:11]: contributions to help pay that. So [0:24:11, 0:24:16]: While they will probably request that full amount of of eighteen thousand [0:24:16, 0:24:20]: They will at the same time be looking to community [0:24:20, 0:24:22]: To get sponsorship and support from [0:24:22, 0:24:26]: local institutions in the Stockbridge Henry County area. [0:24:26, 0:24:32]: But that has yet to begin and they'll be coming back to you with a proposal to [0:24:33, 0:24:38]: um establish a non profit entity uh to solicit funding [0:24:38, 0:24:44]: um to help offset this. And you know, for successful, hopefully in the future much of this will be self sustaining. [0:24:45, 0:24:47]: But as an initial investment [0:24:47, 0:24:51]: Uh you've already budgeted ten. We'll be under budget for this year. [0:24:51, 0:24:53]: Um and if we [0:24:53, 0:24:57]: If the Council approves what has been presented to you, we will be asking [0:24:58, 0:24:59]: eighteen thousand for next year. [0:25:00, 0:25:02]: this fall when we begin the budget process. [0:25:03, 0:25:03]: Uh [0:25:04, 0:25:09]: I've said a lot. Um, if you have any questions about the program [0:25:09, 0:25:09]: Um [0:25:10, 0:25:13]: now would be a a good uh opportunity. If you'd like I can [0:25:14, 0:25:15]: For the public's sake, give [0:25:16, 0:25:18]: people an overview of what the programme will look like. [0:25:19, 0:25:23]: We have a portion of the city webpage which says a little bit about the program. [0:25:24, 0:25:27]: Uh we plan to enhance that. [0:25:27, 0:25:31]: fairly soon so people will have a better idea of what the program's about. [0:25:32, 0:25:33]: Uh as the kids [0:25:34, 0:25:38]: get involved and begin undertaking the activities. We'll certainly have pictures and [0:25:39, 0:25:40]: more information and [0:25:40, 0:25:45]: and uh material that will help people s get a better understanding. [0:25:45, 0:25:46]: Um [0:25:46, 0:25:48]: But as a general overview [0:25:48, 0:25:54]: to remind the public the the purpose of the youth council is to provide a leadership training program [0:25:54, 0:25:56]: for the youth of Stockbridge. [0:25:56, 0:26:00]: who are in high school, these are rising sophomores, juniors and seniors. [0:26:00, 0:26:05]: to learn about civic government, local government and to learn about leadership. [0:26:05, 0:26:06]: Um [0:26:07, 0:26:09]: So the programme reflects that. [0:26:09, 0:26:13]: the initial part of the the beginning pro part of the program [0:26:13, 0:26:15]: uh is all about training and learning about [0:26:16, 0:26:18]: the local institutions in Stockbridge. [0:26:18, 0:26:22]: Uh the first month is city government month. We'll have them learn about [0:26:22, 0:26:24]: Stockford City government month. [0:26:24, 0:26:29]: And then we branch out and we have a month dedicated to education where they can meet with [0:26:30, 0:26:34]: school administrators of and the school board to learn about [0:26:34, 0:26:36]: what is being done. [0:26:36, 0:26:41]: um in the education arena. Then we have a public safety month where they meet with [0:26:41, 0:26:43]: police and fire to learn about [0:26:43, 0:26:45]: uh that aspect. [0:26:45, 0:26:46]: Oh [0:26:46, 0:26:46]: Uh [0:26:47, 0:26:51]: you know what it takes to provide for the public safety of citizens in in our area. [0:26:52, 0:26:55]: Um and then it branches out. Um we [0:26:55, 0:26:57]: want them to be engaged in civic [0:26:58, 0:27:00]: um opportunities in public service. [0:27:00, 0:27:05]: So one of the things that we're asking them to plan on their own with our support but on their own [0:27:06, 0:27:11]: to plan and and and carry out a public service project to benefit the Stockbridge community. [0:27:11, 0:27:12]: So [0:27:12, 0:27:17]: we have them starting at in the f very first meeting begin planning that [0:27:18, 0:27:23]: And the hope is that they they will implement that public service project in December. [0:27:24, 0:27:26]: Um and after that first part [0:27:26, 0:27:28]: D we plan for them to then [0:27:28, 0:27:39]: go and meet with the General Assembly uh in next year when the General Assembly is back in session and hopefully if we can arrange it there'll be an opportunity to meet perhaps with the governor or Lieutenant Governor. [0:27:40, 0:27:44]: Um and again to learn about that, uh, you know, state government. [0:27:44, 0:27:54]: Um and then towards the end of the year we start doing a little bit more personalized leadership development for these kids. Once they've had a an opportunity to learn about [0:27:54, 0:28:01]: how government works, then we want to invest a little in them in the as individuals so that they can [0:28:01, 0:28:02]: Hopefully [0:28:02, 0:28:03]: Uh [0:28:03, 0:28:08]: enhance their leadership skills. So we have a problem solving workshop and a communications workshop [0:28:08, 0:28:10]: as part of the program. [0:28:11, 0:28:13]: Um and then towards the latter part of the year [0:28:13, 0:28:16]: W which really May of next year. This time next year [0:28:17, 0:28:18]: Our hope is that [0:28:19, 0:28:21]: in doing all this they will be able to [0:28:22, 0:28:23]: Demonstrate their leadership. [0:28:23, 0:28:27]: abilities by helping carry out a city wide youth event. [0:28:28, 0:28:31]: And we don't know exactly what that will look like at this point, but [0:28:32, 0:28:34]: That's something we want them to [0:28:34, 0:28:35]: Plan. [0:28:35, 0:28:38]: and put into fruition. So [0:28:38, 0:28:50]: These will be, you know, the future of Stockbridge. These will be ambassadors of the city. Um and and think this will be an exciting opportunity to invest in kids in Stockbridge. [0:28:50, 0:28:51]: Um [0:28:51, 0:28:55]: Unfortunately they cost money and and we know we have to uh [0:28:55, 0:29:00]: to budget for it and so we've tried to budget as conservatively as possible. [0:29:00, 0:29:01]: Um [0:29:02, 0:29:02]: And [0:29:03, 0:29:08]: you know, th i I I hate to use words like it is what it is, but this is what [0:29:08, 0:29:11]: If if you approve this program [0:29:11, 0:29:12]: We think [0:29:13, 0:29:16]: These are the cost estimates of are what it will take to carry it out. [0:29:17, 0:29:25]: And we're certainly here to go by your decisions and what you asked us to do and if we need to adjust that, we're happy to carry that out. [0:29:29, 0:29:34]: Uh do um I hear you do you have any other comments? Okay. Um [0:29:35, 0:29:55]: I just go ahead and make a motion to approve the program as recommended by City Attorney Mr. Williams after reviewing all the documentation to uh move the city forward. I'd like to commend Councilwoman Robinson and the group for all the work that they did. This is a tremendous day. [0:29:55, 0:29:56]: [1797.4, 1805.1]: I'll send it back. Okay, I have a motion by um Councilman Alexander and I have a second by Pro Tem Ford. [0:30:05, 0:30:07]: that the um [0:30:07, 0:30:10]: consideration for the youth council. [0:30:10, 0:30:11]: We need a vote for it. [0:30:12, 0:30:15]: Um any discussion before we do that. [0:30:17, 0:30:35]: I just want to ditto that I think it's a great job. The budget itself this year, next year for the uh for the entire youth council and the fact that uh you uh Mr. Williams along with the rest of the youth council advisors uh did a great job. I think this is a great step. But I just want to make sure I I say that. I I think it's a great step without a doubt. Thank you. [0:30:36, 0:30:37]: Mayor. [0:30:38, 0:30:39]: All in favor. [0:30:40, 0:30:41]: Oh, it's all right. Can see you. [0:30:41, 0:30:49]: I would also like to commend our attorney. Um he does this um outside of what he does for the city, so he's volunteering his services. [0:30:50, 0:30:52]: to make sure that this is successful. [0:30:52, 0:31:01]: Also we have our chair who's here tonight with Ms. Xavier. He's also here, so I wanna thank you very much. And I don't see any any of our other um [0:31:03, 0:31:22]: team members. But it's a lot of work went t into it. Um we're definitely being good stewards of the citizens funding. Um so we want to make sure that our scholars have a great opportunity here in the city of Stockbridge moving forward with um their leadership. Thank you. [0:31:22, 0:31:25]: Okay, thank you. Okay, I have one other comment. [0:31:25, 0:31:35]: Uh when you get the uh portion together where you're gonna be doing the donation and um uh sponsorships and whatever, bringing in other funds. [0:31:35, 0:31:41]: Um, because you're actually on track with s about approximately six months left at at at nine. [0:31:41, 0:31:45]: And you're looking at eighteen for a total year, so it's it's about the same. [0:31:46, 0:31:48]: Um how would that [0:31:48, 0:31:51]: How would that be interjected when you guys [0:31:51, 0:31:55]: bring in any other funding versus what we've already budgeted. [0:31:56, 0:32:01]: Well well the hope is if we are able to get funding in is that much less in [0:32:01, 0:32:06]: City of Stockbridge taxpayer funds used um for that year, so we would just [0:32:06, 0:32:11]: not spend that much out of the tax coffers and and utilize the funds from [0:32:12, 0:32:16]: uh whatever we're able to raise. Um and then next year, depending on [0:32:16, 0:32:21]: how pledges come in and if we if we're successful in getting multi year pledges then that we [0:32:21, 0:32:25]: be that much less that we ask you all to budget in future years. But [0:32:25, 0:32:28]: That part of the program is very much kind of [0:32:28, 0:32:36]: in its infancy, uh there one of the members of the uh advisory committee has agreed to serve as the chair of the fundraising aspect of that. [0:32:37, 0:32:48]: will uh likely be establishing a a non profit corporation and getting five oh one C three status and that just takes time. But in the meanwhile we're not gonna wait. We're gonna go out and [0:32:48, 0:32:50]: See what we can do from the community of support. [0:32:51, 0:32:52]: Okay. [0:32:52, 0:32:59]: Well and and with that what I'm saying when the funding comes in, is there gonna be a quarterly report? How does that work when it comes to [0:32:59, 0:33:05]: um our treasurer getting the reports what you bring in versus now what we need to push out. [0:33:05, 0:33:07]: That's systemic systematic. [0:33:07, 0:33:13]: I I honestly don't have a good answer for what that will look like practically. Um [0:33:13, 0:33:14]: You know, what [0:33:16, 0:33:19]: You know, if if we got a pledge of five thousand dollars, for instance [0:33:20, 0:33:21]: for this year. [0:33:21, 0:33:29]: Um that money would be set aside and and spent first in my mind before we come back and and spend funds. [0:33:29, 0:33:33]: out of what's appropriated by the council. [0:33:33, 0:33:47]: Um and so I I think that's my question, is this going to be an additional to or in lieu of? That's what I'm saying. If we raise private funds we would use those in lieu of the taxpayer funds, yes, sir. [0:33:48, 0:33:49]: Mayor. [0:33:49, 0:33:50]: Yes, of course. [0:33:51, 0:33:55]: And also can you advise so everyone that will understand that other [0:33:56, 0:33:57]: Um youth councils. [0:33:58, 0:34:01]: the cost that's associated that you've looked at. [0:34:03, 0:34:09]: Stockbridge is not unique. I mean there are are dozens of cities and counties that sponsor [0:34:09, 0:34:10]: youth um [0:34:11, 0:34:12]: Council [0:34:12, 0:34:15]: or youth commissions and and their communities. [0:34:15, 0:34:19]: uh GMA is in the process of doing a survey for how much [0:34:19, 0:34:23]: other spin just to kinda get a sense for what what [0:34:23, 0:34:25]: uh the state of Georgia is expending in this area. [0:34:26, 0:34:27]: Um [0:34:27, 0:34:33]: I did some research. I know the city of Noonan, they spend about eighteen thousand five hundred dollars for their youth. [0:34:33, 0:34:34]: Uh [0:34:34, 0:34:35]: program. [0:34:35, 0:34:38]: Chatham County, which was first and kind of the [0:34:38, 0:34:39]: Um [0:34:39, 0:34:44]: you know, the trailblazer in in this pr project for the state [0:34:44, 0:34:51]: They actually expend fifty thousand dollars. That's what their budget is for this year. Now it's a larger program and they do a lot more things [0:34:51, 0:34:53]: than what we're projecting, but [0:34:53, 0:34:59]: that will give you an idea. There's a range and the dollar figures really depend on how much [0:34:59, 0:35:03]: Um you do as a program how many students are involved. [0:35:04, 0:35:04]: Um [0:35:04, 0:35:06]: Uh again for instance uh [0:35:07, 0:35:07]: The [0:35:08, 0:35:10]: Uh youth retreat. [0:35:10, 0:35:11]: that we have planned [0:35:11, 0:35:13]: You got to pay for lodging. [0:35:13, 0:35:15]: And we have about eight kids and [0:35:15, 0:35:21]: and things like that. So you just kinda do the math to figure out how much it's gonna cost for lodging and meals and that sort of thing. [0:35:21, 0:35:23]: If we had double the number of kids. [0:35:24, 0:35:26]: It would be double the cost, roughly. So [0:35:26, 0:35:27]: Um [0:35:28, 0:35:31]: the the thought is let's see how this year goes in terms of [0:35:32, 0:35:35]: uh how well the program is run. [0:35:36, 0:35:42]: Um and that will determine in part how much interest you get from students next year. [0:35:43, 0:35:47]: Um you know, hopefully we'll get a lot more students applying for next year than you [0:35:48, 0:35:57]: the c the committee and you all will have to make a decision about how large you want the program to be. But we think this year will be very manageable with eight students and we look forward to [0:35:58, 0:36:01]: providing a very successful progress report this time next year. [0:36:02, 0:36:03]: Hey, thank you. [0:36:04, 0:36:05]: Okay. [0:36:05, 0:36:06]: We have one more. [0:36:06, 0:36:12]: discussion. I'm sorry, real quick. And I know uh because I'm I I commend the passion that uh [0:36:12, 0:36:21]: um councilwoman Robinson has for this program also. She and I went to make it and and the GMA is gonna be having a training in June. [0:36:21, 0:36:24]: um on sustaining [0:36:24, 0:36:28]: uh youth program and I didn't know though. Did you get that one? Did you see that? [0:36:30, 0:36:41]: Yeah. Oh okay. I just didn't know if uh everybody has do we plan on sending someone down there for that? Oh we attend someone's attending that from there? Oh okay. [0:36:43, 0:36:50]: Okay. We've heard uh about our new youth council, so I'm calling for the vote. All in favor? [0:36:52, 0:37:05]: All right. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Williams. At this time we have uh presentations and we're gonna call on Laura Lucre and David Gill from the Chamber to come up and talk to us at this time. [0:37:06, 0:37:06]: Um [0:37:06, 0:37:09]: about our Convention Investors Bureau. [0:37:10, 0:37:17]: Hi. Thank you. Mayor Council. Um I'm experiencing some of that same laryngitisy cold hangover. Um so [0:37:17, 0:37:22]: All right, you might want to use one of the handheld mics so that people can hear you better. [0:37:24, 0:37:25]: Yeah. [0:37:25, 0:37:26]: Is this better? [0:37:27, 0:37:47]: Um thank y'all. Uh sorry if I'm hard to understand. Um that's always I talk really fast, so also if I do that, I'm sorry as well. Um but talk to you a little bit today about what the CVB did in 2016. Um as you know, we are funded through hotel motel tax and it's been [0:37:47, 0:38:07]: Basically divided Stockbridge collects under an eight percent tax, so it's divided three different ways with the restricted funds or being the only thing that the C D B has um purvey over. The unrestricted funds and the tourism product development funds are all things that the city manages and maintains. So our four forty four point [0:38:07, 0:38:15]: Seventy five seventy five percent is what we're gonna talk about and how how we how we administered that in two thousand and uh sixteen. [0:38:15, 0:38:35]: And some of what we've been doing in 2017. I am not going to talk in detail about a lot of things, really going to talk about the new things that we did. You do have a packet in front of you, blue folder, that has a full presentation with a lot more detail that I'm just not going to go into today. It does include also a list of applications. [0:38:35, 0:38:46]: applicable expenses. We are restricted in what we can spend tourism funds on, that restricted portion. And so there's an example of what that looks like in those kinds of expenses. [0:38:48, 0:39:08]: Oh it worked in, sorry. Um for a broad overview of tourism in Henry County as a whole. Um we get a report from the Georgia Department of Economic Development. It's typically about a year and a half to two years behind. So the numbers that we have right now are from two thousand and um fifteen and they show [0:39:08, 0:39:28]: And that's gas, that is hotels, that's attractions, that's eating at restaurants, that's all of those types of things. And with you know being on Interstate 75, we do get a lot of the pass through travel as well as um people you know coming. [0:39:28, 0:39:32]: to actually enjoy our various events and attractions. [0:39:33, 0:39:53]: What we say this really breaks down to and why it matters to residents on a day-to-day level is because of the expending that's happening by people coming through, people who aren't using government services, they end up saving the money they spends ends up saving residents about two hundred and fifty excuse me, households, two hundred and fifty six. [0:39:53, 0:40:09]: six dollars per household a year. Um and so that money basically is new money that's being infused into the economy that residents aren't having to spend um so that you as um councils are not trying to figure out how to make up that money that it's just totally [0:40:10, 0:40:12]: Free money in an essence. Um [0:40:13, 0:40:33]: So what we do with our um portion of the restricted funds for marketing is obviously we are a Henry County, we're a billboard. Um we have billboards because we are an interstate community. We do have three static billboards that really do mostly marketing uh the county and the awareness of Henry County saying, you know, where our exits are, and then we have three digital bills. [0:40:33, 0:40:43]: billboards that we also use that promote local events mostly as the council. If you have events that are coming up that have strong tourism [0:40:43, 0:40:58]: um benefits. You know, you're they have a strong relationship for tourism. You're welcome to send um boards in and we put them in on a space available basis. If you let us know a long time in advance, we can get them scheduled. Um but that's one of the things that we do because we know people are coming through. [0:40:59, 0:41:17]: We also do a visitors guide every year. I've included a copy of that in your packet. We print thirty thousand of these and we distribute them all over the state. Um the city does get a free full page ad in this guide. All of our partners do, all of our um city partners and county um as part of the partnership that we share. [0:41:18, 0:41:38]: And this is kind of our number one fulfillment piece for anybody looking for additional information. You'd be surprised at how many people want physical copies. There's more information on our website, but people really do want something they can hold. Um and so we also know that you have specific projects that are very important to you. You have specific projects, specific [0:41:38, 0:41:58]: Specific events or specific attractions that are things that are important. So we set aside a portion of our budget that you can use to promote specific events or attractions. You could use it to promote Bridge Fest as y'all have done for the past maybe four or five years. Y'all do radio ads with that money for Bridge Fest, or it could be used for Millmann's Conference Center. [0:41:58, 0:42:04]: um, you know, things that h have general and and genuine tourism interest for the community. [0:42:04, 0:42:12]: Um and so that money's available every year. It changes sometimes various based on um incomes, but that um is available. [0:42:12, 0:42:28]: And then we also, um, as I mentioned, that our website is our number one tourism um asset in terms of marketing Henry County um as a whole. We did spend the majority of sixteen really, really fine tuning and working to do build a new website. [0:42:29, 0:42:49]: Um one of the things that we really wanted to see is make it mobile responsive because we had previously had a mobile site and a desktop site, but um people were two thirds of our traffic right now comes from a mobile phone and so they needed to have access to all of our content, not just some of our content. So we launched this new site in February. [0:42:49, 0:43:09]: this year um one of the things that we decided it was really important that we wanted to add was city pages. So if you go to the site there's a hover map. So people may know there are these cities in Henry County but maybe not exactly where they are or where they're located within their grand scheme. So we wanted them to have a visual representation of that. So we do have a hover map [0:43:09, 0:43:21]: You can hover over it and see what the points of interest are in those communities, some facts, and then you can click on those pages and get more information, more facts, more history, and then some featured itineraries and those kinds of things as well. [0:43:22, 0:43:22]: Um [0:43:23, 0:43:40]: We also when we were able to when we launched the website we were able to also launch a new campaign that we had been in the works, had been working on called History Has a Name. And it is currently we have eight videos with associated interviews for local tourism partners. We wanted to be able to tell [0:43:41, 0:44:01]: um put faces to names, faces to places because we know that our attractions are so much more than just places. They're they're people and they're people whose heart and souls got poured into those places. So we um have these videos and these w interviews that are on our site under the History has a name tag and um they have these embedded ones [0:44:01, 0:44:13]: minute videos along with a full interview and in the first month this these pages were viewed more than twenty eight hundred times and people are spending about an average of three minutes on them which is really a very a very good um amount of time to be spent on a site. [0:44:14, 0:44:16]: We do plan to make this a [0:44:16, 0:44:20]: an ongoing campaign. We are already working um on [0:44:20, 0:44:26]: plans for four additional videos this year, including Panola Mountain Annual Forest. Um [0:44:26, 0:44:27]: And um [0:44:28, 0:44:35]: We we know there's a lot of good stories to tell and as long as we have enough stories to tell that meet our criteria, um, we are are [0:44:35, 0:44:39]: interested in continuing this. We really want to tell just really want to tell a good story. [0:44:40, 0:45:00]: We were also able in 2016 to hire a digital marketing assistant. She does our social media and our website. We know that social media and web are just two of our critical resources, and so she does a fantastic job, has really brought some innovative things into the office, has been able to grow our Facebook. [0:45:00, 0:45:16]: followers or Instagram followers or Twitter followers between twelve and tw and thirty five percent depending on the platform. Um and really getting to expand that outside of the local market and reach out to people like bloggers and um media outlets in a way that we just were not able to do before. [0:45:17, 0:45:37]: We also know that it is not enough for us to say, We're great, come visit Stockbridge. We need other people saying it and other people that have third per third party credibility. So one of the things that we did last year is we hired a company called Lori Road Communications. They are a travel PR media agency and they help us write [0:45:37, 0:45:57]: and distribute press releases and blogs to members of the travel writers and blogger community. And they also maintain a travel media press room for us. And this travel media press room gives us a twenty four seven presence for people seeking story ideas. [0:45:57, 0:46:17]: uh facts and photos and videos. So at any time if they're looking for the top ten places in Georgia to pick cri to cut your own Christmas tree, they can go to that site, they can learn that we have one, they can download a photo, and we're gonna get picked over somebody else because we had really high quality photography that they could access at midnight. Um because their deadline was, you know, [0:46:17, 0:46:31]: twelve thirty. Um and so we've worked with them to do that and continuing to see a lot of really good progress. We actually had a piece picked up um in the Chattanoogan that was actually picked up verbatim um and talking about a lot of the great restaurants that we have um in Henry County. [0:46:31, 0:46:51]: And then because again third parties are so important, we work with a lot of bloggers. We did a press tour in 2015 that was incredibly successful and had a lot of really good results and we've continued to nurture and maintain those relationships and build on those. Um we've invited some of those bloggers who've been most prolific kind of down to experience. [0:46:51, 0:47:11]: more of Henry County and different types of Henry County experiences that has really resulted in some very, very positive articles. We had them come into our Army Aviation Heritage Foundation, take a helicopter ride or come for a NASCAR weekend, really just hoping to give people a different view of these tractors that either they knew about but didn't know about that aspect. [0:47:11, 0:47:14]: or um maybe they'd never heard of the other. [0:47:14, 0:47:34]: We've also worked with the state, Georgia Department of Economic Development to make sure that their people are familiar with what we have because they, particularly their social media people, are talking to people every day and we need them to know what we have um so that they can sell it most effectively. So bringing them down to experience um Henry County, Scottbridge [0:47:34, 0:47:41]: Panola, um all the different places that are just really unique about our area. [0:47:41, 0:47:49]: So I said that's just kind of the high points. There's some more details in your packet, but at this point if anybody has any questions, I would um let's answer them. [0:47:50, 0:47:52]: Anyone have questions? Ms. Robinson. [0:47:53, 0:47:59]: I was looking through the brochure, so maybe you can help me. I know on the we have two pages actually. [0:47:59, 0:48:08]: Um, I know you highlighted one, but the one with the Merlmanders, is there possible way'cause I we do a lot of weddings that we can highlight that on there. [0:48:09, 0:48:13]: 'Cause I see we have like a four as um meeting space. [0:48:14, 0:48:22]: That was an ad provided by um that was an ad that that the Mermaners purchased and provided us the art for. [0:48:24, 0:48:36]: We do have though um a entire micro site that is dedicated to um weddings. We know that weddings in Henry County and particularly I'll say in Stockbridge. Stockbridge has [0:48:37, 0:48:47]: the majority of our larger venues. Um, Merlmanders being one of them, Eagles Landing. And so we do a lot of wedding promotion and um [0:48:48, 0:48:49]: Which [0:48:50, 0:49:06]: m Stockbridge actually gets the majority of because you have so much of the larger voting. So we have an entire micro site that features all the wedding venues and vendors and then we do a lot of paid advertising, um pay-per-click and that kind of thing based on driving people to the site to learn about. [0:49:06, 0:49:11]: But and we do have plans at some time to hopefully we have a um [0:49:12, 0:49:32]: a list that we keep that has all of the venues on'em and we send out we have a lot of leads that we get from Brads. We have advertisements on the knot dot com and um so whenever we get leads we send them the list and they like they tell us what they're looking for and we send send them a full list and that includes all of Stockbridge's facilities as well as all the other ones. [0:49:33, 0:49:35]: Are there other questions? [0:49:36, 0:49:36]: Yes. [0:49:37, 0:49:40]: Mr. Alexander. [0:49:40, 0:50:00]: uh for the work that you do and for your the feedback that you have accepted from us. And um I know we had had a meeting earlier talking about incorporating some of the things that we have and you've been uh very forthright in uh incorporating uh the Reeves Street Trail uh multi use uh trail [0:50:00, 0:50:01]: True. [0:50:01, 0:50:21]: uh system into that uh because uh that is a very popular attraction um here in the city. Um I I just and I wanted to thank you today for the email that you sent me back uh saying that that would be incorporated uh a little bit more. Um and I think i it is incumbent upon us [0:50:21, 0:50:41]: us as a city to do a little bit better job putting uh the package together because we have great history here uh with the Martin Luther King Sr. uh family and the uh legacy uh that we have. I would like to ask um as as we go along now I guess our next presentation [0:50:41, 0:50:50]: on the branding will be coming up where we'll be able to uh incorporate that. I would like for you to talk about uh during our discussion we talked about [0:50:51, 0:51:05]: uh billboards and there has been a discussion uh amongst the council about the uh pros and cons on that and then possibly doing something for the city. I think uh there was multiple questions on that. I'm surprised we didn't get one tonight. [0:51:08, 0:51:28]: Was there a question? The question was to could you talk about a little bit about uh maybe like some stock bridge specific uh stuff. Uh if we were talking about this as a council potentially doing that uh for the city. I know that you talked to me about it, but the entire council uh might be able to talk about that. Maybe Mr. Gill might be able to talk about it a little bit. [0:51:28, 0:51:28]: Yeah. [0:51:29, 0:51:35]: Well we use billboards um for very specific purposes and I think that um [0:51:36, 0:51:41]: In order to have an effective billboard campaign you have to A have funding because they're not [0:51:41, 0:51:42]: Inexpensive? [0:51:42, 0:52:02]: Um and you have to have a very concise message in order to and know what that message is um and it has to be very compelling because you're you basically have seven seconds, um seven words or less in order to get your message across for people going eighty plus miles an hour down an interstrait. And um, you know, people stopped [0:52:02, 0:52:06]: eat when they're hungry and they stop to sleep when they're tired. Um and so [0:52:07, 0:52:26]: you have to decide what you want your what does the goal of your bill board campaign to be? Um is it to develop brand awareness? Is it to actually get people off of the interstate? Is it to drive into a specific place to a specific event? And then once you know what that goal is [0:52:26, 0:52:32]: you can um develop your art and your your creative very, very specifically. [0:52:32, 0:52:33]: Um to know [0:52:34, 0:52:35]: And so [0:52:35, 0:52:36]: Um [0:52:37, 0:52:38]: The city decides to [0:52:39, 0:52:45]: to move forward with a Billboard campaign. I'd love to, you know, with provide any input that we have'cause we do have a lot of experience, um [0:52:46, 0:52:49]: in in doing this we have how to build board campaign in some [0:52:50, 0:52:54]: some capacity um for the last I don't know ten or fifteen years it's [0:52:55, 0:52:57]: We've edged and flowed with it, but um [0:52:58, 0:52:59]: You have some experience. [0:53:00, 0:53:20]: the world real quick. Next, um, in terms of us, we talked about in our meeting about uh incorporating things like the dog park and then a lot of citizens don't know that we have the special needs equipment that's uh at Memorial Park now and that we'll be going in the stock going into uh cloud [0:53:19, 0:53:35]: Clark part. Would it is it best for us for us as a council to talk about putting that together to present it to you or to kinda we kinda work together on putting something together out to to incorporate those uh things that we kinda talked about? [0:53:36, 0:53:56]: Well we do have them listed on our site. Um we did update the listing to uh include the s the special needs playground. We actually did a photo shoot at Clark Park on Tuesday of so a week ago. Week a little over a week ago. Um or not quite a week ago I guess, uh on Tuesday we did the dog park and um [0:53:56, 0:54:05]: Um also um at some of the other attractions in the area. We know that that is people travel with their pets. And again, to be clear, we are [0:54:06, 0:54:26]: promoting to people outside of Henry County. And so we are really looking at what could it what could encourage people to get off the interstate or to travel from Atlanta to do. And so we know that people are passing through there. We have a lot of snowbirds that come down from the north northeast and they need places to stop with their [0:54:26, 0:54:35]: Dogs, um, maybe they'd love more than just a gas station. They want a place for them to really stretch their legs. So those are things that we really do want to highlight. We do have [0:54:35, 0:54:38]: have that highlighted in our visitors guide. Um [0:54:39, 0:54:59]: for things that you want and you know the maybe new products, let us know. Uh we will incorporate them if we can and how we can. Um it's you know what what they are and how they are will depend depend on that. We do right now all of our playgrounds and trails and parks are kind of listed under our things to do in our play activities. Um and [0:54:59, 0:55:10]: And uh thirty we do have a lot of all of those things in Henry to varying uses depending on you know what tourism tourists might or might not uh find. [0:55:10, 0:55:12]: Something that they need when they're traveling. [0:55:12, 0:55:13]: Thank you. [0:55:13, 0:55:17]: Okay. We have another question from Mr. Ford. Yes, I thank you. Appreciate it, Mayor. [0:55:18, 0:55:18]: Um [0:55:18, 0:55:25]: I was wondering now on and maybe I missed it, but the visitors guide, this goes into welcome centers as people enter into the state itself. [0:55:26, 0:55:37]: It does. Um so there are eleven state welcome centers um at the borders of Georgia and we send out copies to every welcome center and um they are we go through [0:55:38, 0:55:49]: um a ton of visitors guides at those welcome centers. They are those ladies and gentlemen that work at those welcome centers um are our front lines and we've had them down. We bring them in for tours because [0:55:50, 0:56:09]: You know, those welcome centers, people pick up information. Just like people are asking us for information for them to get in mail, they do stop at those welcome centers and um pick'em up. So we have them at the state welcome centers as well as at regional welcome centers. There's about forty or so regional welcome centers. Like the Henry the Convention of Visitors Bureau runs a regional welcome center. [0:56:09, 0:56:21]: Um and so there's about forty others um throughout the state that are, you know, in chambers or in welcome centers, like uh Clayton County's Road to Terra Museum is a welcome center as well. So um [0:56:22, 0:56:38]: They're distributed throughout the state. We mail them to people. We put them in gift bags for like family reunions. We if family if weddings ask for them, if sports tournaments ask for them, um group tours, anytime we send out information, that's our fulfillment piece when people ask for additional information. [0:56:39, 0:56:50]: All right. Uh I'm also interested in of course in Billboard campaign of so for the city. So obviously it's something we need to work on internally and give you a product and then kinda uh tweak it there. Out of curiosity though [0:56:50, 0:56:51]: How [0:56:52, 0:56:53]: Green one accessor. [0:56:53, 0:57:06]: Okay and and and I was another question though basically is how far uh do you go with the drillboards on seventy five, six seventy five or any highway system, how far north, south, east and west do you advertise Fort Henry County? [0:57:07, 0:57:08]: Just out of curiosity. [0:57:10, 0:57:15]: Uh thank you, Councilman Ford. And uh let me maybe just make a couple of comments. Okay. [0:57:17, 0:57:19]: Uh we try very diligently [0:57:20, 0:57:25]: to maximize the benefit of the City of Stockbridge's restricted funds. [0:57:26, 0:57:30]: Uh the city also has substantial funds that are unrestricted. [0:57:30, 0:57:40]: And that may be a good place for you to look for your billboard campaign. You can use those for anything and we would be glad to assist you [0:57:40, 0:57:41]: in any way we could. [0:57:42, 0:57:44]: But we have to be a little bit careful. [0:57:45, 0:57:49]: in in too much directed type of things. [0:57:49, 0:57:50]: Yeah. [0:57:51, 0:57:55]: Hotel motel tax is divided, as Laura said, into three parts. [0:57:57, 0:57:58]: Two parts of'em. [0:57:58, 0:57:59]: You control. [0:58:00, 0:58:11]: Uh that is the unrestricted funds from the five percent and and I uh one and a half percent between five and eight percent, and that is for tourism product development. [0:58:11, 0:58:13]: The other you're required to [0:58:14, 0:58:34]: to enter into a contract with a destination marketing organization and that is us. And the reason for that is to keep independence so that when we're doing things, we're doing them without undue influence from the city. That's the purpose of the restricted funds. So we always welcome comments and advice. [0:58:34, 0:58:48]: cost, but we really couldn't take, for example, if you put together a package of billboards and presented them to us, unless we could build that into our overall marketing campaign, that would not be the correct solution. [0:58:48, 0:58:53]: In my mind the correct solution would be for you to look at the use of the hotel motel tax [0:58:54, 0:58:56]: that you uh that are unencumbered [0:58:57, 0:59:03]: by any way, and that is uh going to be uh a substantial amount [0:59:03, 0:59:04]: Uh actually [0:59:04, 0:59:23]: uh three percent of the uh the eight percent collected and you can use that to create billboard campaigns. We could we could make sure that we try to incorporate that into our message as well, but we use billboards for very targeted purposes, the the ones that are used for [0:59:24, 0:59:39]: um to coordinate with campaigns. So that's what I would recommend if you want just a directed Stockbridge Billboard campaign. But I would encourage you to give very careful thought to what you are trying to to uh uh accomplish [0:59:39, 0:59:44]: because billboards have pretty specific purposes. [0:59:44, 0:59:57]: And we would be as I said, we'd be glad to talk with you about'em. But we need to be a little bit careful about trying to get for for the city to be too involved in restricted funds. That kind of violates the spirit of why they are restricted. [0:59:58, 0:59:58]: Okay. [0:59:59, 1:00:19]: And just to your comment about where we currently advertise, um we have the first billboard on the south side is Bass Road. So if you're coming north, just north of Bass Road, um and then we have one um in Jac no excuse not Jackson in uh Four Sites, Georgia in like it's on the left hand side in the historic area, and then one just north of [1:00:19, 1:00:20]: Um [1:00:21, 1:00:39]: Half Alls Road. And then coming south we have one in Morrow just um at the where the bridge fifty four um crosses. And then just south or just meeting just north of the Hudson Bridge Eagles Landing, and then one between um Jodico and Jonesboro. [1:00:39, 1:00:40]: Thank you. [1:00:41, 1:00:45]: Are there any questi any other questions? I have one more. Okay. Ms. Robinson. [1:00:46, 1:00:52]: So the billboard I saw one that's for McDonough that was in Gwinnett County. How does that [1:00:52, 1:00:56]: 'Cause I was in Gwinnett coming down and I saw a McDonough. [1:00:57, 1:00:59]: Billboard. How does that work? Does [1:00:59, 1:01:03]: Something that they do. Okay. [1:01:05, 1:01:12]: And the only like we are required to spend our funding outside of Henry County to promote tourism to Henry County. [1:01:13, 1:01:13]: Um [1:01:13, 1:01:15]: The exception being [1:01:15, 1:01:19]: billboards. Like obviously we can have billboards on I seventy five. [1:01:20, 1:01:26]: Um because there is a lot of people that are not residents or not local passing through that traffic but um [1:01:27, 1:01:29]: Um that's one of the only exceptions. [1:01:31, 1:01:34]: Okay. Just real quick. [1:01:35, 1:01:39]: Because when I brought this question up about billboards and I understand that you have to have a plan in place. [1:01:40, 1:01:41]: to um [1:01:42, 1:01:50]: what are we actually promoting? What are we actually bringing in and have a plan in place but because uh when me uh I've asked you all before about the same thing that [1:01:51, 1:01:54]: Mayor Pro Tem asks us about what are the additions of the billboards. [1:01:55, 1:02:01]: Uh Bass Road is about fifty miles away, if I if I remember, around exit one one seventy two. [1:02:01, 1:02:21]: Um so I've seen billboards around fifty miles away and I've also seen them uh a little over a hundred miles away past Cordillo promoting McDonald and I guess for one little over a hundred miles away, that's McDonald paying for that billboard I guess. But I d but but when I asked that question before [1:02:21, 1:02:25]: my understanding was that you guys didn't go uh fifty miles out. [1:02:26, 1:02:29]: We do go fifty miles out. Uh we we do start [1:02:29, 1:02:36]: trying to build basically brand awareness that we're here. Um we don't want people to pass through Henry County and not know that they're [1:02:37, 1:02:38]: That we're here. [1:02:38, 1:02:50]: The reason I'm saying that, because once we uh formulate a plan for the city of Stockbridge, it's gotta be formulated and promoted enough because now you got a uh express lane that takes you by Stockbridge. [1:02:51, 1:03:11]: So those are things that that'll th those are my concerns that when we formulate those plans for billboards, now that I know because like I said when I asked before about the billboard distance it it wasn't a and I think I mentioned I saw one fifty and we're uh over a hundred miles. So now I know that you do you do go fifty miles out and when we [1:03:11, 1:03:14]: We start to promote whatever we formerly was top bridge. [1:03:14, 1:03:20]: I think we're gonna need that kind of distance because of the express lane once you enter into Henry County. [1:03:22, 1:03:36]: And again I think that how far out you go depends largely on your budget and um what you're trying to promote. We stay we don't have anything more farther north, partly because they're very, very expensive when you go farther north. [1:03:36, 1:03:41]: Um and the farther south you go when you're in the more rural areas they are less expensive. [1:03:41, 1:03:42]: Mm. [1:03:43, 1:03:45]: Yeah, I just we we [1:03:45, 1:03:56]: know that that's where a lot of people are coming in from the seventy five four seventy five merge, um coming up from Florida, Savannah. And so that is one of the places that we've chosen to say [1:03:57, 1:04:08]: Or, you know, fifty miles away if you're hungry. Because a lot of people we have found from research are looking to get somewhere and stop before they get to Atlanta. And so we want to be that place. [1:04:10, 1:04:19]: Okay. If there are no other questions, we appreciate uh David and Law being here to give us the update. If you have any other comments. [1:04:21, 1:04:29]: Any other comments? All right, thank you so much. Appreciate appreciate important suggestions. Thank you. Appreciate it. [1:04:30, 1:04:45]: Uh next on our agenda um is the Henry Council for Quality Growth. I don't see Mr. Steve Cash, so how about if we pull that item off and um add it to our next meeting? [1:04:48, 1:04:51]: May May um may I comment on that? Sure. [1:04:52, 1:04:55]: Wouldn't there have to be a vote to move remove this and add to the next meeting? [1:04:56, 1:04:57]: Okay. Do I? [1:04:58, 1:04:59]: Yeah, or by consensus either way. [1:05:00, 1:05:01]: Okay. [1:05:01, 1:05:03]: If you want to make it formal, anybody wanna make a motion? [1:05:04, 1:05:06]: I'll make a motion that we take the [1:05:06, 1:05:18]: Henry County uh quality growth uh presentation leader and me and uh table it and tail or remove remove from the night's agenda and and have it at our next uh how about the working next work meeting which will be a work session. Second. [1:05:19, 1:05:21]: All right. [1:05:21, 1:05:25]: Okay. At this time we discussion please dismission. Sorry. [1:05:25, 1:05:28]: So I'm just of interest tonight. Um [1:05:29, 1:05:33]: Any discussion about doing that? All right? All in favor? [1:05:34, 1:05:35]: Okay, thank you. [1:05:36, 1:05:48]: Okay, uh let's move on. Um I'll tell you what, I'm gonna ask a question from our staff. It's awfully cold in here. If anybody has any way to turn the heat. [1:05:49, 1:05:50]: I agree. [1:05:51, 1:05:54]: You you agree? I agree. Okay. Okay. [1:05:55, 1:05:56]: I don't know. It's just [1:05:56, 1:06:01]: Extremely cold air up here. [1:06:02, 1:06:14]: Okay, at this time we're gonna take up an item, K Piana Club Learning Foundation, a partnership proposal, and that will be presented by Mr. Kenneth Wilson. [1:06:16, 1:06:17]: [3978.1, 3978.8]: If not [1:06:19, 1:06:23]: Do I hear a motion that we table that one until he's able to be with us? [1:06:23, 1:06:24]: There. [1:06:24, 1:06:35]: You know my I'd like to make a motion that we table um the presentation of KP uh KPM Club Learning Foundation until our next meeting, which will be the work session. Next work session. [1:06:36, 1:06:36]: Second. [1:06:38, 1:06:41]: Okay, we've had a motion and a second. Is there discussion? [1:06:42, 1:06:47]: If not, then we will uh table um all in favor? [1:06:48, 1:06:49]: Okay, thank you. [1:06:50, 1:06:53]: Okay, we're going now to new business. [1:06:53, 1:06:55]: And we're going into a public hearing. [1:06:56, 1:07:02]: So um to do that I think I need a do I need a motion to go into public hearing. [1:07:06, 1:07:06]: Okay. [1:07:07, 1:07:07]: Right. [1:07:08, 1:07:10]: She had a question. I think she just needs to open it up for public hearing. [1:07:11, 1:07:12]: Yeah, just open in [1:07:13, 1:07:14]: Okay. [1:07:15, 1:07:16]: Okay. [1:07:16, 1:07:22]: Uh we're gonna hear um number item number eight underneath business, it's a rezoning [1:07:23, 1:07:25]: And we're gonna hear from uh [1:07:25, 1:07:29]: Our mapping specialist tonight, sir Miss Melinda. [1:07:29, 1:07:30]: You'll present. [1:07:33, 1:07:35]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [1:07:35, 1:07:36]: Can you guys hear me? [1:07:38, 1:07:41]: I'd like to present to you tonight a rezoning, it's R Z. [1:07:42, 1:07:45]: Dash seventeen dash o seven dash s [1:07:48, 1:07:58]: This property is located at seven seventy one and seven ninety one Davis Road in landlot seventy one of the twelfth district and consisting of one point two seven acres. [1:08:01, 1:08:07]: This showing on the screen is a uh aerial photography view of where the site is located. [1:08:10, 1:08:15]: The applicant and I'm sorry about saying his name but I can say this very well it's altif to me. [1:08:16, 1:08:21]: Wishes to rezone both parcels from R three single family residential to C one [1:08:22, 1:08:23]: Neighborhood commercial. [1:08:23, 1:08:25]: The proposed use is for a convenience store. [1:08:27, 1:08:31]: I have a a slight view from the east. [1:08:32, 1:08:33]: And a sight view from the west. [1:08:35, 1:08:36]: in a current zoning map. [1:08:39, 1:08:43]: Henry County Planning and Zone recommended approval with three conditions. The conditions are [1:08:43, 1:08:49]: pending variants from a minimum front setback for the existing single family structure [1:08:49, 1:08:53]: Notwithstanding any new structure shall meet the minimum front setback. [1:08:54, 1:08:55]: Whether by ordinance or by variance. [1:08:56, 1:09:00]: Any new structure shall be brick, stone, stucco on all sides. [1:09:00, 1:09:04]: The architectural design of proposed buildings shall meet the [1:09:04, 1:09:05]: Approval. [1:09:05, 1:09:09]: of the planning and zoning department prior to the issuance of a building permit. [1:09:10, 1:09:14]: Dumpsters shall be placed on a concrete pad and enclosed on three sides. [1:09:14, 1:09:18]: The enclosure shall be constructed of brick, stone, stucco [1:09:18, 1:09:20]: Or any combination thereof. [1:09:20, 1:09:21]: Provided it is [1:09:21, 1:09:26]: Consistent with the primary structure and shall not exceed eight feet tall. [1:09:27, 1:09:29]: Those are a total of three conditions. [1:09:31, 1:09:37]: This rezoning was reviewed by the City of Stockbridge Zoning Advisory Board on April twenty seventh, twenty seventeen. [1:09:37, 1:09:40]: During the discussion the applicant stated that [1:09:40, 1:09:43]: That the current single family structure will be removed [1:09:43, 1:09:45]: And a new building will be constructed. [1:09:45, 1:09:49]: It is also stated that they will not be selling gas at this location. [1:09:49, 1:09:51]: Staff address future [1:09:51, 1:09:55]: The future D uh G Dot project with the applicant. [1:09:55, 1:09:57]: And uh I've got it on screen. [1:09:59, 1:10:01]: And she stated that they were aware of it. [1:10:03, 1:10:08]: City of Stockbridge Zoning Advisory Board recommended approval with the same three conditions as Henry County. [1:10:10, 1:10:11]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. [1:10:12, 1:10:20]: Okay. Didn't I hear any motion from any council member to [1:10:20, 1:10:24]: We need a public hearing to hear from both sides. [1:10:24, 1:10:26]: We've got to hear speakers. [1:10:26, 1:10:38]: Um let's start out if there's anyone here who wants to speak for the station for the new convenience store, please come to the podium one at a time. [1:10:48, 1:10:56]: Good evening, Mayor and Council members. Um I'm Sana Chima. Um I live at seven eighty one Davis Road, the property that we are trying to rezone. Um [1:10:57, 1:11:05]: Uh we've lived there about a year and it's extremely difficult to live there because it's on a busy intersection all night long so no car has passed through [1:11:05, 1:11:25]: And a lot of times cars use our drive through to make U turns, so it's really, really hard to live there. So um last year a request was made to turn it into a C three. It was for a truck stop. And it was denied because I guess it was just too much. We are requesting C one, which is the lowest level of [1:11:25, 1:11:45]: of commercial rezoning and as you guys heard that all the buildings, all the properties around it are commercial. So it makes the city look bad and unorganized that you know we have this tract of land right there that's just residential. Um traffic was uh issue that was brought up in the um [1:11:45, 1:11:51]: the board meeting um for with the z zoning advisory and [1:11:51, 1:12:11]: Yes, traffic is bad on seven um on Davis Road in general. Um however I don't think that a convenience store would add to it because w it's not like we're opening a mall. It's not something huge. And sooner or later, you know, the city is gonna have to, you know, give approval to make it commercial. So I [1:12:11, 1:12:18]: I think right now is the best time also with the G Dot product that's come um the project that's coming up. [1:12:18, 1:12:38]: And a lot of times a thing that I have noticed while living there is that traffic build up on the stop sign right over there is because a lot of cars are trying to across the street and go to the Sunuco. So I believe that if we open a convenience store it will help the traffic build up on the stop sign because [1:12:38, 1:12:58]: People might just come to the convenience store if they want like a soda, uh, chips or anything like that. Um we are not making any major changes, you know, no huge companies are gonna come over and, you know, take over Chad n it's not gonna be a big big store or anything uh like family family owned. So I don't see anything [1:12:58, 1:13:08]: that would make the city look bad. I think it will help the city because it will be bring uh bringing in new business. So I think that it's a great idea. And you guys should approve it. [1:13:09, 1:13:10]: Panie Przewodniczący. [1:13:10, 1:13:18]: Do I hear um or see any um anyone else that would like to speak for the zoning? [1:13:20, 1:13:21]: Okay. [1:13:21, 1:13:28]: If we do not, do I hear or see anyone who would like to speak against the zoning? [1:13:28, 1:13:31]: Okay, do you come to the present question? [1:13:42, 1:14:02]: Good evening, folks. Good evening. Please state your name. My name is Ron Gordon. I live at one ninety seven Shields Road in the city of Stockbridge. Uh and have been here for ten years in the city and twenty-five years in the city just outside the city, if that makes sense. So it doesn't surprise me that there's only one petitioner here um against this proposal because [1:14:02, 1:14:22]: The legal sign announced in this meeting was taken down on the shortly after the ZA B meeting, so anybody that would have an opportunity to speak here did not see the sign. When they took the sign down for the Z A B meeting, they also took the sign down for this meeting here as well. So But in summary, I d I would assume that you guys got my note on May the first on my opinion. [1:14:22, 1:14:30]: about uh this property here, how I feel about it. I basically think there's just too many gray areas uh around what's gonna happen in this property. [1:14:30, 1:14:49]: to make the mistake of zoning this to s to commercial at this point. Uh during the zoning advisory board, uh in in my understanding their advice was they were told that they were only approving or recommending a zoning from residential to commercial. It had nothing to do with with any future use of this property. [1:14:49, 1:15:06]: But it also was stated by the administrator that the city's lack of a real firm building permit type process or construction process at the point that you zone this a commercial would at that point would severely restrict the city's influence on what happened in this property. [1:15:07, 1:15:27]: Uh the county's requirements say a concrete slab which it has underneath that house and it also says that it must be made of brick or stucco, but it doesn't say that that building cannot be converted into a convenia home a convenient uh convenience store. The house says two blocks plus back off the intersection of Davis Road and this super busy most of you are familiar with this intersection here? [1:15:26, 1:15:46]: I tried um a few years ago to get a no left turn during the morning and the afternoon at that intersection, but we couldn't do it because they said that it was a DOT decision to do that. That intersection is heavily taxed and because of that, dur for the DOT project to rewiden one thirty eight, Davis Road is going away in front of this house. [1:15:46, 1:15:50]: That's no longer going to connect to Highway one hundred eighty at that intersection, it's going to be a cul-de-sac. [1:15:50, 1:16:10]: So whatever business is built there is not even going to be seen right now during this process anyway, but at that point it's going to be completely cut off from any access from Highway one thirty eight. And I think the last thing we need is another abandoned structure there. Um if you do a search on the Secretary of State website for the name of the person petitioning this is any [1:16:10, 1:16:30]: Interesting. They were in the convenience store business right now and gas business down towards noon and it may not may or may not be the same people. The address register in the Henry County Tax Assessors Office shows them to be living in a different place which uh pardon me, a different address which is on Newburgh, although [1:16:30, 1:16:50]: So they claim to live in this house here. Since this house sold, the yard has been littered with used cars, which was very recently cleaned up and the grass cut back, I'm sure, for this meeting. The family drives vehicles with paper tags and temporary demo tags on the car. There's one in the parking lot right now with a temporary demo restriction. [1:16:50, 1:17:06]: restricted use tag. Um so I don't really know what the purpose is and what they have for this property. I would plead with the city to deny this request at this time, until such time as you know what's going to go on this property, what more specific is going to be built here and the exact purpose for the use of it. [1:17:07, 1:17:11]: I think we have enough converted home businesses in the city and enough abandoned buildings. [1:17:11, 1:17:15]: And with that said, that's my opinion. Thank you very much for hearing me. Thank you, Mr. Gordon. [1:17:15, 1:17:20]: Is there another anyone in the audience who wants to speak against this project? [1:17:22, 1:17:24]: Okay. Council? [1:17:25, 1:17:26]: Okay. [1:17:26, 1:17:31]: Madam Chair, in some of the staff discussions about this [1:17:32, 1:17:36]: uh the concern about the conversion of the building was raised [1:17:36, 1:17:37]: And [1:17:38, 1:17:42]: applicant stated at the zoning advisory board that they would be [1:17:43, 1:17:48]: uh tearing the building down it would be a new building. At least that's what we've been told. [1:17:49, 1:18:01]: Um so one suggestion would be to make that as a condition that the rezoning be conditioned um to provide for a convenience store in a newly constructed building. [1:18:01, 1:18:04]: that is otherwise in compliance with our building codes. [1:18:05, 1:18:10]: Um that would address at least part of the concern about what this would be used for. [1:18:10, 1:18:15]: Um if if the applicant is still stating that that's what they intend to do. [1:18:15, 1:18:22]: Then I believe it'd be appropriate for them to put that on the record and then to add that condition to the zoning ordinance. [1:18:23, 1:18:24]: Yes, of course. [1:18:25, 1:18:45]: I w at this point generally we would hear from the applicant uh and have a question to question the applicant. Are we gonna have that time for the applicant to appear? Yes. Well she spoke during the comment period. It wasn't [1:18:45, 1:18:47]: Would you like her to come back? Yes, please. [1:18:55, 1:18:56]: Yes, ma'am. Uh [1:18:57, 1:19:00]: Many of the things that Mr Gordon just said [1:19:01, 1:19:02]: I see them myself. [1:19:03, 1:19:23]: I drove by there last week and the place was just totally trash. There was trash from walk the Walmart um entrance all the way to Davis Road. I think uh one of the staff members reported it as well and there's been extremely poor condition on how the property is being [1:19:23, 1:19:28]: maintain. So to me, you know, uh moving forward with something [1:19:28, 1:19:42]: And you said you all have been living there w it which kinda show a a bit of a concern for me of the property's being maintained in this fashion that we're gonna move forward uh with something else and then I have a follow up question. [1:19:43, 1:20:00]: When you say it's trashed, I don't get that because the only thing that was not done was the grass was not cut. And if you uh it's a one acre plus lot, it it takes a lot. I mean it's a lot of money to get the to get the get the grass cut and that's the only thing I don't understand why you're saying it I don't [1:20:01, 1:20:21]: It's to me it's not trash. The grass is not cut. That's the only thing in the uh server there. He said that there's cars. We are use car dealers. We have our personal cars that are are on the property. Dealers have a special red tag. Those are the tags that are on the cars. There are [1:20:21, 1:20:23]: [4823.6, 4836.0]: that we try but we don't have the c uh red tag. That's why we have the temporary tag. But I I mean we've been taking good care of the property. You know, we fixed it up before we bought it. It was just sitting there. I don't [1:20:36, 1:20:56]: I think we did a really good job and we got the grass cut the other day and I think I think this has nothing to do with us opening the business. I mean we love Stockbridge and we we have made every effort, you know, to keep it clean, but it was just this one instant and I don't think that you should base your [1:20:56, 1:20:57]: Decision off of that. [1:20:58, 1:21:01]: We usually we do make an effort to clean it and [1:21:01, 1:21:02]: I [1:21:02, 1:21:07]: when you say trash it was just the grass that was not cut and I don't think that's a fair kind of excuse. [1:21:08, 1:21:28]: Well when I say that I mean along the street line and I think we had um uh someone to go out there as well. But uh my main concern would be this, generally dealing with these zoning hearings, is there a rendering of what the building would look like, what you have proposed for this potential [1:21:28, 1:21:48]: site uh for me to be able to move in a direction of approving anything I wanna I would like to see if there's some plans for whether it's new structure it's kind of we've can talked about a new structure or the plans to show or rendering to show what you [1:21:47, 1:21:51]: you have uh in mind for the place. [1:21:51, 1:21:58]: I would love to get you the plans but we were advised that we did not need the plans right now because it was just for the property. [1:21:58, 1:22:18]: Um even in the zoning uh board meeting that was on april twenty seventh, you know, they said that once it's approved for commercial use, we will have to make you know the building plans, approve them, show you show the zoning board, just make sure that everything goes along as how the city wants it. So [1:22:18, 1:22:18]: So [1:22:19, 1:22:29]: We were told not to get any we we were not told that we had to have the plans or anything like that.'Cause i this is something that we want to do maybe like [1:22:30, 1:22:39]: two, three months nothing has been decided but this was our first step and even the initial meeting no one told us that, you know, you have to [1:22:40, 1:22:48]: show the plans at the city council meeting. But I would love to show you the plans. If you guys could give us maybe a week, I could you know, I could show you the plans for the building. [1:22:50, 1:22:50]: Yeah. [1:22:52, 1:22:53]: Uh Mr. Blount. [1:22:56, 1:22:59]: This becomes an interesting situation for me because [1:22:59, 1:23:01]: At this point you're just talking about the property. [1:23:02, 1:23:08]: And we don't have anything to look look at to say what the building would look like or what you're gonna put on the property. [1:23:08, 1:23:11]: So if we stay in a category just a property [1:23:11, 1:23:16]: One of the things you just admitted is that you it was expensive to maintain the property. [1:23:18, 1:23:19]: And so that's not a good [1:23:20, 1:23:24]: That's not a good presentation for for me personally for you to say [1:23:24, 1:23:28]: Since we're just talking about the property because you don't have the plans. [1:23:28, 1:23:31]: that it was even difficult and expensive for you to maintain the property. [1:23:32, 1:23:37]: whether that's uh a picture of a convenience store on a property or a house [1:23:37, 1:23:39]: If it's your property [1:23:39, 1:23:44]: You're telling the city of Stockbridge that it's too expensive to maintain this property. [1:23:45, 1:24:03]: And we have nothing else to show you what we're gonna be putting on this property, but just for the property, uh it was it was it was expensive for us to maintain it. That's not a good uh No sir, that's not true. That's not what I meant by it. Um my brothers and I live there, we are young, we're college students, you know, we [1:24:04, 1:24:12]: We're in and out of the house so maybe we weren't paying attention but you know, uh the signs were put up and everything, we tried to take care of it. [1:24:12, 1:24:19]: And money's not mo money's not an issue but you know, sometimes you just kinda give slack to some things and that's [1:24:20, 1:24:30]: that's the only reason why. But from now on we will take care of the property and, you know, make sure the grass is cut. And that's the only thing. The grass is not cut. I don't understand why [1:24:30, 1:24:33]: Because once again, excuse me for cutting you off. [1:24:33, 1:24:36]: But if I stay with what you're telling me [1:24:36, 1:24:48]: You're telling me you're young, you're college students, and your irresponsibility was because of your age and you didn't pay any attention to it. And this is not the type of business we want to start bringing into the C and Stock Ridge. [1:24:48, 1:25:07]: We're not gonna be in charge of it. My father is. He will be doing everything. We are you have your father to come up and speak then because if you're not if you c because you're really digging a hole with me for your father, if you would like to come and speak on behalf of your property, I think you need to probably come and rescue her right now. [1:25:11, 1:25:15]: Do I stand or do I take a look at the other? [1:25:15, 1:25:17]: Oh okay. Yes. [1:25:20, 1:25:28]: Does someone have a question? The c my question is is th is that this property, when we're talking about the property in itself [1:25:28, 1:25:30]: has not been maintained. [1:25:30, 1:25:36]: This is without even knowing what the structure's gonna be. And the excuse we've gotten is that [1:25:37, 1:25:41]: They're young, they're college students, they overlooked it, hadn't thought about it. [1:25:42, 1:25:52]: That's in the neighborhood of a city that's still property in the city of Stockbridge. Absolutely right. [1:25:53, 1:25:59]: Stay there. And my son stay there. We are we are five sex property. [1:25:59, 1:26:00]: But money is not issue. [1:26:01, 1:26:06]: If we build we build the real Friday, real good looking God and a [1:26:06, 1:26:10]: approved then he approves it, then we've done the job. [1:26:12, 1:26:14]: But money is an art issue, trust me. [1:26:14, 1:26:28]: Okay. Mr. Ford. Thank you. Um first of all I want to remind folks this is a zoning issue in a sense, uh whether or not we're going to convert it from one zone to another zone. But why I wanna go back to a comment you made, um uh mister [1:26:28, 1:26:48]: our attorney, Mr. Attorney here, Mr Williams. In reference to what they may have said to our own zoning board about tearing the building down and then we and then fulfilling a requirement it says in here about being brick stone stuck on all sides. Um and you m I think you mentioned that if that was the case that they can verify or say that and we would assume [1:26:48, 1:27:08]: accept that as a re uh approval a recommendation that we accept that along with these other three, that'll make the fourth condition. I would say then if they say that if they knock it down they'll have to build it and we would have to actually they'll have to build it to our particular city uh structure codes, our codes. And so we will have oversight of that. No matter what the building looks like, we still have overs [1:27:08, 1:27:15]: oversight of how it is built. So it would be within the standards that we would want to have once we if we go ahead and approve it in that case. [1:27:15, 1:27:16]: Is that correct? [1:27:16, 1:27:26]: Yes, sir. And if that's their intention and and if they accept that condition, I would recommend adding that to those just as you stated, so it's clear. Um so [1:27:27, 1:27:32]: the c current condition of the property would necessarily change in order to accommodate that. [1:27:32, 1:27:33]: Okay. [1:27:34, 1:27:34]: So [1:27:35, 1:27:55]: I know you speak better English than your father, obviously, but so otherwise uh if we make a motion or to a s it would have to be a motion, is that correct? We make a motion to the fact that if you knock the building down and you and you reconstruct the building, provided we approve this, we could reconstruct the building and it'll be to our particular city codes, it's our structure. So what happened [1:27:55, 1:28:15]: meet that to go up. We are absolutely fine with that. You know, we might have made some mistakes, but that should not stop the city from, you know, approving this because, you know, everything's got new beginnings, new chances. So yes, we will make every effort and we will go by the city's rules and standards on how they want this to be built. [1:28:16, 1:28:22]: And you know, we will go by whatever you guys say. I don't have any objection to I don't think neither of neither of us do. [1:28:22, 1:28:42]: Alright, so on that note I'd like to make a motion that I add a fourth point, a condition for approval, that uh a pa if we approve this, but for fourth condition of at least approval here, that uh if the building is restructured, knocked down and restructured, it'll have to comply to the city's codes, building code structure and have to make all those particular [1:28:42, 1:28:47]: particular adjustments in code uh vi uh uh the requirements in that aspect. [1:28:48, 1:28:52]: That's a if that's the right verbiage. And Madam Chair, the the the [1:28:52, 1:29:02]: If if he makes that motion then we can add that to the final motion to approve it up or down. So you you don't have to vote separately on that. Okay. Okay. Add that condition. [1:29:03, 1:29:03]: All right. [1:29:04, 1:29:04]: All right. [1:29:05, 1:29:06]: Um any [1:29:06, 1:29:07]: Any other [1:29:08, 1:29:27]: Questions. Madam Chair, I did have one other question uh of the applicant, which is uh if the a fifth condition is that it's for a convenience store only as part of the C one, would you be okay with that condition? Yes. Okay. Thank you so much. Um [1:29:27, 1:29:29]: Oh did you have a question? [1:29:30, 1:29:32]: No, come back, please. Come back. [1:29:32, 1:29:33]: Miss Robinson. [1:29:35, 1:29:45]: I mean I'm fine with us adding all of that, knowing that we have uh control of that. But please understand we're trying to do beautification [1:29:45, 1:29:58]: efforts in our city and we have code enforcement and it's gonna be something that we're gonna be strongly and I just wanna say this so that you will hear it from all of us. It's gonna be something that we're really, really, really gonna be [1:29:58, 1:30:18]: you know, pushing. So I mean you're standing before us saying what you're capable of doing and we're gonna be looking for that. Our expectations are very high. And I I completely agree and I expect you guys to have those expectations. Stockbridge is a beautiful city and we are new, roughly a year and a half, so I'm so sorry [1:30:18, 1:30:35]: if we did not you know honestly we didn't know that's such an important thing and he's here now. I understand. You're gonna be the one in charge. I know you have college students but we're here what we're seeing and it's not satisfactory. So [1:30:35, 1:30:44]: Our expectations are high and we're gonna hold you there. We did get about five hundred percent of the next one. Okay. Yes. We will not give you guys any reason to complain. [1:30:45, 1:30:52]: Okay, thank you. Um I'm gonna ask um Mr. Williams, our attorney, to restate the motions. [1:30:53, 1:31:00]: Well yes ma'am, if if you'll f formally close the hearing um first and then I can restate the motion. [1:31:00, 1:31:04]: All right. At this time we will close the hearing. [1:31:05, 1:31:06]: I saw a hand go up. [1:31:10, 1:31:17]: Too too late? Okay. Uh if you would please Mr. Williams uh read the um [1:31:18, 1:31:26]: So Madam Chair, uh if the council is amenable to the the rezoning then a motion would be in order to accept the recommendation [1:31:26, 1:31:29]: of the zoning advisory board to [1:31:29, 1:31:35]: uh provide for rezoning of the property to C one general commercial with the following conditions. [1:31:36, 1:31:56]: Number one, pending variance from the minimum front yard setback for the existing single family structure notwithstanding any new structures shall meet the minimum front yard setback whether by ordinance or by variance. Number two, any new structure shall be brick, stone, or stucco on all sides. The architectural design of all proposed building plans shall meet the [1:31:56, 1:32:16]: Number three, dump dumpster shall be placed on a concrete patent enclosed on three sides. The enclosure shall be constructed constructed of brick, stone, stucco, or any combination thereof, provided it is consistent with the primary structure and shall not exceed [1:32:16, 1:32:24]: a height of eight feet. Number four, the site shall be rezoned C one uh general commercial [1:32:24, 1:32:27]: to provide for a convenience store use only. [1:32:28, 1:32:29]: And number five. [1:32:30, 1:32:30]: The [1:32:31, 1:32:36]: zoning is conditioned on the demolition of the existing building and the construction of the new [1:32:36, 1:32:39]: building to provide for the approved zoning use. [1:32:40, 1:32:41]: So moved. [1:32:41, 1:32:45]: Okay, we have a motion by Pro Tem Four. Do I hear a second? [1:32:47, 1:32:49]: Do I hear a second? [1:32:51, 1:32:57]: I'm sorry, I'm not getting a second, so the Madam Chair. Um [1:32:57, 1:33:00]: If the the council is not um [1:33:01, 1:33:04]: inclined to approve this rezoning [1:33:04, 1:33:11]: uh it will be appropriate to ask the applicant to consider withdrawing the application prior to a final vote. [1:33:12, 1:33:19]: In doing so they would be allowed to bring back a r another rezoning proposal in the future, otherwise they would have to wait a year. [1:33:19, 1:33:20]: Mm-hmm. [1:33:21, 1:33:22]: Um [1:33:23, 1:33:37]: Did you hear what the attorney said? You have a choice at this point. You can withdraw your application tonight and work with our uh community development staff person. [1:33:37, 1:33:40]: to see if you can work something out. [1:33:40, 1:33:43]: Change the zoning and come back again. [1:33:44, 1:34:00]: Or the other alternative, if we actually take a vote tonight, you will be assured that it will be twelve months before you can return asking for another opportunity for a zoning change. [1:34:01, 1:34:07]: So I think all of us are are sort of recommending if you'll withdraw it tonight. [1:34:07, 1:34:14]: And work with our community development person, you might stand a better chance. Is that what our attorney's telling us? [1:34:17, 1:34:20]: Okay. The applicant has chosen to withdraw. [1:34:23, 1:34:28]: Do we need a motion? Just everything's good. All right. Thank you so much. [1:34:28, 1:34:30]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. Thank you. [1:34:32, 1:34:35]: Okay, that ends our um public hearing. [1:34:36, 1:34:37]: So at this point [1:34:38, 1:34:41]: We are going to move to item nine. [1:34:41, 1:34:47]: And that is a task order for WWTP improvements. [1:34:47, 1:34:49]: Uh phase one. [1:34:49, 1:34:51]: And this is gonna be presented by [1:34:51, 1:34:54]: Deshaus Allen, our public works director. [1:34:58, 1:35:09]: Yes, Madam Mayor and Council. I come to you tonight asking for your approval of a task order to uh begin this construction of the new headworks for the wastewater treatment plant. [1:35:09, 1:35:13]: This was identified in flip three or four funding. [1:35:13, 1:35:18]: And so it has been identified but this is one of the p improvements we need to make. [1:35:18, 1:35:33]: us attached order from Carter and Sloop in an amount not to exceed ninety five thousand three hundred dollars. But like I said, this is a necessary improvement that needs to be done at the wastewater plant. It'll be part of the presentation we give later on, but we're asking mayor and council's approval. [1:35:34, 1:35:36]: All right, council. Um [1:35:38, 1:35:42]: We have heard the presentation. Do I hear a motion? [1:35:42, 1:35:43]: To support this. [1:35:44, 1:35:45]: Their shisses. [1:35:46, 1:35:47]: Yeah. [1:35:47, 1:35:49]: Can we have a question first? [1:35:50, 1:36:01]: Okay. I'll make a motion that uh task order uh for the uh WWTP improvements phase one is approved. [1:36:02, 1:36:08]: Okay, we have a motion and a second. Is there discussion at this time? Yes, I have one discussion question. [1:36:08, 1:36:16]: Now, I understand that uh where we are now is at the goal level. Is that correct in terms of our overall rating? Is that true? [1:36:16, 1:36:20]: Uh well gold is the award that they give out annually but we're [1:36:21, 1:36:39]: between gold and platinum. So i this gonna help us move toward platinum, is what you say? No, sir, it it it's not'cause sometimes plat those things are something we can't control. But what we're doing is this is like as I'll tell later on, wastewater treatment plant system is like [1:36:40, 1:37:00]: Like the circulatory system. Your heart is you might as well associate with the lift stations. They're pumping the wastewater and the and the sewer mains are like veins and the force manes are like arteries. They get it down to the wastewater treatment plant. The head works that we need to replace and upgrade is twenty five years old. So it collects everything there, screens out the bad impure. [1:37:00, 1:37:13]: grit and and sticks and bricks and other things like that before it sends it to the treatment process where it goes into basins and settle out other fine particulate matter. But this this piece of equipment is over twenty five years old. [1:37:13, 1:37:24]: Now this is what brings everything into the wastewater plant. Now if this fails, you get no treatment at all. It's gonna go directly into the creek, then you're dealing with EPD and EPA. [1:37:24, 1:37:30]: But this is a piece of equipment that has served its purpose and it needs to be replaced and upgraded. [1:37:30, 1:37:33]: Thank you. To keep the plant functioning in the manner that it is now. [1:37:34, 1:37:35]: Okay. [1:37:35, 1:37:35]: Thank you. [1:37:36, 1:37:37]: Uh any other questions? [1:37:39, 1:37:43]: Okay. It uh in that case I'll call for the vote. All in favor? [1:37:45, 1:37:47]: All right, thank you. Appreciate Mr Aaron. [1:37:48, 1:37:49]: Uh [1:37:50, 1:37:58]: At this time we're going to ask our attorney to present again and this will be number ten, new car wash. [1:37:58, 1:38:00]: uh recycle water. [1:38:01, 1:38:11]: Madam Mayor, members of the council, um if I could just provide general commentary for uh agenda item ten as well as eleven because it's the same commentary. [1:38:12, 1:38:17]: Um these two ordinances um we've been notified by uh the state EPD [1:38:18, 1:38:22]: um that we are required to adopt the ordinances and um [1:38:22, 1:38:27]: You will hear me come before you multiple times over the coming years. This is one of my [1:38:28, 1:38:32]: pet peeves as a city attorney when the state tells us we have to adopt ordinances [1:38:32, 1:38:37]: Um and they tell every jurisdiction you must adopt this or otherwise you won't be in compliance with [1:38:37, 1:38:40]: you're uh uh permitting um [1:38:41, 1:38:43]: uh licenses and things like that. And so this was [1:38:44, 1:38:49]: Um another example and my preference would be that they would just adopt the state law [1:38:49, 1:38:50]: That applies to this so [1:38:50, 1:38:51]: We wouldn't all have to [1:38:52, 1:38:53]: Go to this exercise. [1:38:54, 1:38:56]: Um having said all that, um [1:38:56, 1:39:00]: Both of these ordinances are reasonable and I will describe them [1:39:01, 1:39:04]: um briefly and then uh recommend your approval. [1:39:05, 1:39:11]: Um the first one requires that all new car washes adopt a water recycling system. [1:39:11, 1:39:19]: Uh most uh state of the art car washes do that anyway and and but this uh would would require that they recycle their water [1:39:19, 1:39:21]: So as not to waste it and and [1:39:21, 1:39:21]: Yes. [1:39:22, 1:39:29]: Um what they forwarded to us applies to all car washes constructed after January one, twenty eleven, obviously [1:39:30, 1:39:32]: that wouldn't really apply in our cases. [1:39:32, 1:39:37]: But for all future um car washes that would be the requirement. [1:39:38, 1:39:46]: Um and then a minimum of fifty percent of their water would have to be recycled and and I believe the industry standard is a little bit higher than that. [1:39:46, 1:39:52]: Uh so that's the f the the first uh ordinance. It's very simple. You have to recycle your water. Yes, sir. [1:39:53, 1:39:53]: Mm. [1:39:54, 1:39:55]: Um yes. [1:39:55, 1:39:59]: Thank you. Uh wanna make sure I understand there, uh Mr. Williams. [1:39:59, 1:40:10]: If uh you say all new car washes, so if a car wash is is is operated right now and doesn't fit this requirement, is it grant is does it mean it's grandfathered in? Okay, I just want to make sure of that. Okay, thank you. [1:40:10, 1:40:23]: Okay, so does that conclude your comment about ordinance one attain? All right. Um Okay, I have a motion by Mr. Alexander. Do I hear a second? [1:40:24, 1:40:30]: Have a second then, Ms. Robinson. So all in favor uh whoops, sorry, how about some discussion? [1:40:32, 1:40:35]: No discussion. Okay. All in favor? [1:40:37, 1:40:46]: Thank you. Okay, let's go to item eleven. The the the second uh ordinance is again it's one of those reasonable ordinances. [1:40:46, 1:40:51]: Um but this has a greater impact on the public. So I'd like to read [1:40:51, 1:40:55]: the the five prohibitions, just so that the public is aware of [1:40:55, 1:40:58]: of what the new requirements would be and and [1:40:58, 1:41:06]: Th these apply statewide, so you can't run away from these restrictions. Every county or every city has adopted something comparable to this world will have [1:41:07, 1:41:09]: um in the near future. [1:41:10, 1:41:11]: Um but it it [1:41:11, 1:41:17]: provides to amend our water use restrictions um to a [1:41:17, 1:41:21]: uh establish prohibitions on the waste of water. [1:41:21, 1:41:24]: specifically five types of waste of water. [1:41:25, 1:41:28]: And and I'll just read. It says the following uses [1:41:28, 1:41:31]: are a waste or unreasonable use or method [1:41:31, 1:41:33]: of use of water and are prohibited. [1:41:34, 1:41:34]: Number one. [1:41:35, 1:41:43]: Allowing water to escape from any premises onto a public right of way such as streets and sidewalks or upon any other person's property. So [1:41:43, 1:41:51]: Just think you're washing your car in your driveway and water's just running down the driveway into the right of way. That would be prohibited. [1:41:52, 1:42:03]: Number two, operating an irrigation system or other lawn or landscaping watering device during rain. And I'm sure everyone has seen this before where it's raining cats and dogs and your neighbors' sprinklers are on. [1:42:04, 1:42:05]: That would be prohibited. [1:42:06, 1:42:13]: Number three, operating an irrigation system or other lawn or landscaping watering device that has any broken or missing sprinkler heads. [1:42:13, 1:42:14]: Um [1:42:15, 1:42:18]: That just, you know, speaks for itself. [1:42:18, 1:42:19]: Number four. [1:42:19, 1:42:26]: failing to repair a controllable leak including a broken sprinkler head or a leaking valve or a leaking outdoor faucet [1:42:26, 1:42:32]: or a service line league or any other visible outside water leaks on premises owned, leased or managed by that person. [1:42:33, 1:42:34]: within thirty days. [1:42:35, 1:42:37]: Um and you know this is really [1:42:37, 1:42:43]: you know, occasionally you've seen examples of this where uh you've got a a leak that just goes on and on. [1:42:44, 1:42:46]: Um so again that speaks for itself. [1:42:46, 1:42:48]: And then the fifth prohibition is [1:42:48, 1:42:55]: Washing any vehicle with a hose and not having a water shut off nozzle or allowing water to run continuously from a hose [1:42:55, 1:42:57]: while washing in a vehicle is also prohibited. [1:42:58, 1:42:58]: So [1:42:59, 1:43:02]: That's you know, again the person in their in their yard washing their car. [1:43:03, 1:43:04]: You know. [1:43:04, 1:43:08]: Lather rinse, cut the water off, lather rinse, cut the water off. It's just [1:43:08, 1:43:10]: You know, basic kind of common sense. [1:43:11, 1:43:18]: There are some exceptions. Um I'm not gonna really go through those'cause they don't really apply to sort of your general person. [1:43:18, 1:43:20]: um i in the public but [1:43:21, 1:43:29]: Um th these will be available for review. Again, th this is the statewide standard that every city and every jurisdiction is being requested to adopt. [1:43:29, 1:43:33]: And having said all that, unless there are any questions, a motion would be in order to approve. [1:43:33, 1:43:34]: Do I hear a motion? [1:43:35, 1:43:36]: Question. [1:43:36, 1:43:39]: Okay, question. [1:43:41, 1:43:57]: What's the fine or how do you f how do you enforce this? So what's the is there a fine associated? Is this this up to us to have our code enforcement guys to do this or I mean really? Well I'll speak to code enforcement first. Um it would be subject to typical code enforcement just like anything else. [1:43:57, 1:44:02]: Um and the police, you know, and I know that's another discussion, but they could enforce this as as well. [1:44:03, 1:44:05]: The fine, uh I'm suggesting [1:44:06, 1:44:08]: um that our regular uh city [1:44:08, 1:44:13]: fine would be in place which is a it's our general fine which is uh [1:44:13, 1:44:18]: up to a thousand dollars and and as provided by the court and what they will do is [1:44:18, 1:44:21]: they will match this to comparable [1:44:21, 1:44:23]: things that we already have in place. So typically [1:44:24, 1:44:27]: the judge and I don't want to speak for the judge who's not here, but [1:44:27, 1:44:36]: But typically what they would do is it'd be, you know, a hundred dollar fine or two hundred dollar fine for the first offense and then that would stack up over time, depending on the severity. [1:44:37, 1:44:44]: Um, if you can imagine someone letting, you know, ten thousand gallons of water loose, maybe that's a higher fine than someone who just [1:44:44, 1:44:48]: you know, forgot to turn their sprinklers off and it started raining and they went and cut it off. [1:44:49, 1:44:50]: So the they'll [1:44:51, 1:44:51]: We don't [1:44:52, 1:44:58]: We haven't been provided with any uh information about how other jurisdictions are really enforcing this and some of these are [1:45:00, 1:45:07]: just judgment call type deals, you know. Someone's washing their car and you've got a a stream of water going down their driveway or [1:45:07, 1:45:14]: Is that something that the police or the code enforcement are gonna see and recognize that they need to go stop or not? And [1:45:15, 1:45:20]: So that they're it's a judgment call. I can't give you a a a really great answer to it, but [1:45:20, 1:45:27]: Um as far as the fine it would be our general fine which is up to a thousand dollars, but I doubt that that would ever be the case. [1:45:28, 1:45:30]: Okay. [1:45:30, 1:45:36]: All right, are there other questions? I have a question. Mr. This is [1:45:37, 1:45:40]: Kinda concerns me with that a uh A one. [1:45:41, 1:45:43]: Um we're actually um [1:45:44, 1:45:47]: Are you talking about washing your cars in the driveway? [1:45:48, 1:45:53]: So if you watch your car in your driveway and there's a slant and it goes into the street [1:45:55, 1:46:04]: Yes, sir. In in fact, well the state is doing a recommendation, this is not a uh they're not requiring this is a requirement. They're requiring our jurisdictions to adopt this ordinance. [1:46:05, 1:46:06]: Really? Yes sir. [1:46:09, 1:46:12]: So to get around that, you know, if I'm [1:46:13, 1:46:15]: If I was concerned and and [1:46:15, 1:46:20]: To be honest, I don't know how much enforcement of that is gonna take place. And let's just just be honest with each other. [1:46:21, 1:46:23]: How often do you see people [1:46:23, 1:46:27]: check in car washing on a Saturday afternoon. [1:46:27, 1:46:34]: But even if they were, if I was concerned about that, I would be more likely to just take my car to a local car wash and wash it there. [1:46:35, 1:46:35]: That's [1:46:36, 1:46:41]: And and I think that's part of what they're probably trying to push because at least there the water's being [1:46:41, 1:46:45]: recycled and and you have the other ordinance coming into play. [1:46:46, 1:46:49]: It just I I asked what because you used the term recommend. [1:46:50, 1:46:58]: And that's why I asked, was it so you're saying now that it is it's uh it's a mandate from the state? Yeah, I I if if I said recommend I mispoke. [1:46:59, 1:47:00]: The state is [1:47:00, 1:47:02]: telling you to adopt this ordinance. [1:47:04, 1:47:08]: Okay. We've concluded our questions. I think do I hear a motion? [1:47:09, 1:47:10]: Tomu. [1:47:11, 1:47:12]: Second. [1:47:13, 1:47:14]: Okay, we have a lotion. [1:47:14, 1:47:21]: uh by Mr. Alexander and a uh second by um Pro Tem Ford. All in favor? [1:47:24, 1:47:25]: We have one opposed. [1:47:26, 1:47:27]: Or abstaining. [1:47:28, 1:47:31]: Okay, we will have one abstaining. [1:47:31, 1:47:32]: Thank you so much. [1:47:33, 1:47:35]: We'll move on to item twelve. [1:47:35, 1:47:40]: Um and this is gonna be presented by Miss McGee from the Romander Center. [1:47:46, 1:47:47]: Oh, sorry. [1:47:48, 1:47:50]: Just left you out. [1:47:52, 1:48:09]: Mr. Riley is our procurement officer and a a really good one. We like having you on our staff. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Good evening, Madam Mayor and Council. We have before you a request of approval uh request approval of the lowest responsive bidder. [1:48:09, 1:48:15]: For the conference center and events, we put out our official solicitation, seventeen IT D [1:48:16, 1:48:19]: O three one four one seven dash DRR [1:48:19, 1:48:27]: for technical production lights and sound services so that we don't have to go out each and every um [1:48:27, 1:48:30]: every year doing the same type of [1:48:31, 1:48:32]: Procurement [1:48:32, 1:48:38]: And having Miss McGee go out for our production, lighting, sound, rigging and our staffing. [1:48:39, 1:48:48]: in which we have the Sounds of Summer, Bridge Fest and Holiday Fest. So we come before you asking for a not to exceed amount [1:48:48, 1:48:55]: in twenty five thousand eight hundred and twenty five dollars with RCS productions out of Atlanta. [1:48:57, 1:49:02]: Okay, we have heard the recommendation. CC, do you have any comments you want to make? [1:49:04, 1:49:14]: I would just like to say good afternoon good evening, Mayor and Council. We look through the RPs and the proposals and we feel that we have chosen the best [1:49:14, 1:49:17]: sound company that presented. [1:49:17, 1:49:20]: And we had they have a lot of experience. [1:49:20, 1:49:24]: And we would like to recommend that this service is um [1:49:24, 1:49:26]: received well by the mayor and council. [1:49:27, 1:49:29]: All right, do I hear a motion? [1:49:29, 1:49:30]: Question. [1:49:30, 1:49:32]: Okay, we have a question first. [1:49:32, 1:49:52]: A as far as the whole process is concerned, obviously um we've been doing this well a la carte I guess just as we go along. So what is it is there significant savings that we're looking to obtain uh by doing it in this manner, or we have some numbers that we might be able to talk about. Uh [1:49:52, 1:49:57]: uh well this by doing it in the RFP form that'll save us X amount of dollars. [1:50:03, 1:50:23]: Uh yes. Councilman Alexander. The savings come from staff time as well as administrative costs. Plus, have we do anything else outside of these particular concerts? Like at one time we were talking about Independence Day concert. We have the actual figures that it's gonna that it's gonna take to actually [1:50:23, 1:50:43]: Actually do and perform and have the stage, the lighting, all everything that it is to pull off this show. So now we have concrete numbers to come before you each and every time so that you could know what it's gonna cost. Now we don't have estimation or guesstimations. Now we have actual factual numbers that we could put forward every [1:50:42, 1:50:53]: time we actually uh do any type of um event. We have a company on staff and it's known and Miss McGee has done business with them for the last [1:50:55, 1:51:00]: Two years. Two years. Um several years. This is a sound company that we worked with last year. [1:51:01, 1:51:05]: And what Mr Um Riley is referring to as far as savings [1:51:06, 1:51:08]: Each we have to put out a proposal [1:51:08, 1:51:11]: based on the budget that is approved [1:51:11, 1:51:12]: That we can [1:51:13, 1:51:13]: Spare. [1:51:14, 1:51:16]: to make the concert production work. [1:51:17, 1:51:19]: the beats that we do have [1:51:19, 1:51:23]: actually exceed what our budget for each show would cost. [1:51:23, 1:51:25]: But the company that [1:51:25, 1:51:26]: That we chose [1:51:27, 1:51:30]: has agreed to work within our budget standards. [1:51:32, 1:51:46]: Less fall of but so this is the company that we worked with last year previously that did such a good job and that uh you're recommending them and this comes with the lighting, the stage the stage and all of that, Kurt. Yes. Okay, great. [1:51:47, 1:51:53]: Uh hey. Other questions. Ms. Robinson. Um does this include the lighting for [1:51:54, 1:51:58]: Um Bridge Fest featuring Hispanic Fests for the both stages or [1:51:59, 1:51:59]: No. [1:52:00, 1:52:05]: Currently our budget only covers the the whole budget for Bridge Fest. [1:52:05, 1:52:08]: only covers um the one stage. [1:52:09, 1:52:13]: I have been advised that the Hispanic Affairs Organization [1:52:14, 1:52:15]: is planning to come [1:52:16, 1:52:19]: for so that they can participate, but that would be on a different agenda. [1:52:20, 1:52:35]: But as of right now, what Mr. Riley has compiled is what actual stage sound production load in and load out production and engineering from several companies. And this company is who we recommend to use. [1:52:36, 1:52:41]: Okay, so you're saying we're gonna be you're gonna be coming back for that particular event. [1:52:41, 1:52:42]: for that stage. [1:52:43, 1:52:48]: Currently in our budget we do not have enough money in the Bridge Fest budget. [1:52:48, 1:52:51]: to cover two stages at this time. [1:52:53, 1:52:55]: Any other questions? [1:52:55, 1:53:05]: Thank you. Okay. Now maybe I must have missed something. This is l no more than twenty five thousand for one year, uh yearly or event. This is a year uh contract, correct? [1:53:06, 1:53:15]: Okay, and this this covers all the events. There's gonna be six, seven events that they will cover under this this umbrella of twenty five thousand uh twenty five thousand. Is that correct? [1:53:15, 1:53:17]: No, but it only carves [1:53:17, 1:53:24]: Yeah, it sounds a summer concert. Okay, right now we have two. We've got two scheduled. Okay. Mm-hmm. Go ahead. Bridge pass. Three. [1:53:24, 1:53:31]: Without his Spanish and holiday festival. Plus four four different events. So it's only three. [1:53:32, 1:53:34]: You say holiday fest. That's in December, right? [1:53:34, 1:53:34]: Yes sir. [1:53:35, 1:53:37]: Bridge Fests in October and two concerts. [1:53:37, 1:53:38]: That's what we [1:53:40, 1:53:41]: Total four. [1:53:41, 1:53:44]: That's why one that's why I want to ask total force. Two costs right now plan. [1:53:45, 1:53:51]: Okay, it's total four. So this is twenty five thousand, no more than twenty five thousand, whatnot, for four different events. Yes. Okay. Thank you. [1:53:52, 1:53:56]: Okay. Any other questions? If not, do I hear a motion? [1:53:58, 1:54:01]: Yes ma'am. I'm I'd like to make a motion that we accept the [1:54:02, 1:54:05]: Copper Center and Events uh contract, uh [1:54:05, 1:54:10]: Not to see twenty five thousand eight hundred and twenty five dollars with R C S production. [1:54:11, 1:54:15]: Okay, we hear the motion by Pro Tem Ford. Do you hear a second? [1:54:16, 1:54:17]: Certainly. [1:54:17, 1:54:21]: Here is second by Mr. Alexander, all in any discussion. [1:54:23, 1:54:24]: No discussion. [1:54:25, 1:54:26]: Oh sorry. [1:54:26, 1:54:30]: Did see you. I'm sorry, ma'am. Okay. I'm my concern is [1:54:30, 1:54:31]: I mean [1:54:31, 1:54:32]: We're featuring [1:54:33, 1:54:35]: So I I just don't wanna have [1:54:35, 1:54:38]: If we're featuring something and we're not accommodating. [1:54:38, 1:54:44]: um to assist in that matter. So that's why I was hoping that that would have been included in this. [1:54:45, 1:55:05]: So that way it would have been brought to council as one cost. Um so that's the only concern that I have because it was brought to our attention for as that stage and they did not have lighting at all. And they were a big Forest Bridgefest and they brought a lot. So I hopefully we'll be able to work with [1:55:05, 1:55:08]: with them and not just have them in a stage that does not have lighting. [1:55:09, 1:55:10]: Because that was a concern. [1:55:12, 1:55:32]: Secondary comment. Well I thought, you know, at one point might um there was some consideration to have having both the Bridge Fest and the Spanish Fest to be able to use the same stage to incorporate the event into one. But that that's a discussion and I'm open to if they want to, you know, that that's a discussion. [1:55:32, 1:55:43]: discussion we need to sit down and have a talk with them. If they're demanding their own if they just wanna have their own stage, then that's something that we will probably need to sit down and talk to them about if that's the case then. [1:55:44, 1:55:46]: Is that something that we [1:55:46, 1:55:51]: the conference center will be open to because they're they're okay with that. But I just [1:55:51, 1:55:59]: before council because I don't want to approve something and then leave something lacking when possibly we can include that now. [1:56:00, 1:56:10]: Um, it was an option for them last year. They chose to have a different stage because they wanted to feature more artists all day long. [1:56:10, 1:56:17]: and it wasn't feasible to have as many acts that they wanted to be featured on the main stage. [1:56:18, 1:56:23]: I'm still operating with the same budget that I had for Bridge Fest for the past several years. [1:56:24, 1:56:36]: adding Hispanifest last year. It was not any additional monies to cover what they did. So we actually helped them get sponsorship to in order to cover the cost that they wanted. [1:56:36, 1:56:42]: to make happen and we're definitely open to receive that but I don't have any [1:56:42, 1:56:45]: additional money in the Bridge Best budget [1:56:45, 1:56:49]: If I do add another stage, then that depletes [1:56:50, 1:56:50]: Well. [1:56:50, 1:56:53]: The actual cost is four bridge best. [1:56:54, 1:56:55]: [7015.5, 7017.1]: ten thousand dollars. [1:56:57, 1:57:02]: So um I'm open for a discussion to figure out how to make it work. [1:57:02, 1:57:05]: But I'm only operating with what I have at this time. [1:57:07, 1:57:10]: Okay. We have um a motion. [1:57:11, 1:57:14]: In a second, and we have had discussion. [1:57:14, 1:57:17]: Um at this time I'll call for the vote. [1:57:18, 1:57:19]: All in favor? [1:57:22, 1:57:36]: Okay, thank you so much. And I would suggest a follow up conversation. Right. Okay. Thank you. Um mayor and council. Thank you. [1:57:36, 1:57:42]: At this time we're going into a discussion mode and we um [1:57:42, 1:57:55]: some questions have been asked by some of our council members and and have resulted in um the next few items that are gonna be called. One is an update on the branding situation. [1:57:56, 1:57:57]: Branding contract. [1:57:59, 1:58:03]: And that's gonna be handled by our procurement specialist, Mr. Riley. [1:58:03, 1:58:07]: with assist from um our main street director. [1:58:08, 1:58:14]: Good afternoon, Madam Mayor and Council. I'm here for the random update. [1:58:14, 1:58:30]: It's a quick update because we had uh several contract issues going on, so and we got those resolved. We have the contract in house. We actually got the contract signed by the contract on Friday. So now it's sitting on the city attorney's [1:58:31, 1:58:36]: uh desk and now everything is going forward. We actually have the [1:58:37, 1:58:39]: uh kickoff meeting scheduled for next week. [1:58:42, 1:58:42]: Okay. [1:58:43, 1:58:45]: Uh Miss Braggus, do you have anything to add? [1:58:47, 1:59:07]: No. Okay. Did that satisfy your questions? Well, I w uh could you talk about it? I mean there's probably people watching and there's people actually sitting here too that uh want to know what we're talking about. So if we could kind of get a little bit of uh in feel on what exactly the [1:59:07, 1:59:17]: This is gonna cover. I know we've talked about wayfinding signage and that type of thing in the past so people could actually find our attractions like Merrill Manders Conference Center. [1:59:20, 1:59:25]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um with regret with regards to the branding initiative [1:59:25, 1:59:31]: Um we are now contracted with a company that will lead that particular exercise. [1:59:31, 1:59:41]: Um this company will make suggestions with regard to um what the brand will be with regard to the look and feel and the [1:59:41, 1:59:47]: um community spirit that is generated with regard to the brand ex branding exercise here in the city of Stockbridge. [1:59:48, 1:59:57]: And then they will make recommendations with regard to things like wayfinding, um, collateral materials that promote the city. You mentioned the billboard campaign. [1:59:58, 2:00:01]: That is the type of thing that they would work with us on. [2:00:01, 2:00:04]: to develop if we wanted to use that in the future at some point. [2:00:05, 2:00:05]: Um [2:00:06, 2:00:13]: Again, um Mr. Riley stated that we will be meeting with the branding company at a later date. I think he said next week. [2:00:13, 2:00:14]: Um [2:00:14, 2:00:22]: that will give us the parameters of what um we're we'll be sitting down to talk with them about the parameters with which we'll be working. [2:00:22, 2:00:28]: and um what we expect from them with regard to the results coming from that branding exercise. [2:00:29, 2:00:29]: Well uh [2:00:30, 2:00:32]: Any other questions? Yes, follow up, please. [2:00:33, 2:00:53]: In terms of actual application, when I think some of the signage uh that we've been waiting for for uh like at Reed's Creek Trail and different places around the city, how soon if this process worked its way through the through the system, we're going to be looking at an application [2:00:53, 2:01:12]: actual um you know getting the signage in place at these attractions. How w what are we looking at? Um it will depend on how long the process takes. And again they will be making the recommendations and I think that we're looking at a three to six month process depending on [2:01:12, 2:01:13]: Um [2:01:13, 2:01:14]: How [2:01:14, 2:01:27]: um engaged we can get the community to participate. This is something that doesn't happen overnight. It's something that takes a series of community meetings. We have to get stakeholders together in order to participate in this branding exercise. [2:01:27, 2:01:32]: once that portion of the branding initiative has been completed [2:01:32, 2:01:35]: Then they will make the recommendations with regard to what signage [2:01:35, 2:01:38]: where it needs to be placed and that sort of thing. [2:01:38, 2:01:48]: And then budget will have to be decided with regard to what our priorities are with regard to signage. And not only signage, we also have to look at the collateral materials that'll be produced with this. [2:01:49, 2:01:51]: um business cards, stationary [2:01:51, 2:01:52]: Templates. [2:01:52, 2:01:54]: All of those things have to be um [2:01:55, 2:01:57]: put into a phasing system so that [2:01:57, 2:02:01]: we will be able to implement these things on a [2:02:01, 2:02:02]: um phased out basis. [2:02:03, 2:02:05]: If signage is the priority of the council [2:02:05, 2:02:13]: then we will let the branding company know that and they will make those recommendations and then we will be f be able to follow those recommendations accordingly. [2:02:13, 2:02:19]: So Mr. O'Reilly, can we have this company submit a timeline [2:02:19, 2:02:24]: with the proposal that they actually do that we can actually hold them to. [2:02:25, 2:02:39]: Yes, sir. They actually have a project deliverable and on that th what you're asking for is a project schedule. Once we have the kick off meeting next week, we will actually have that in hand as well as have it distribute to council. [2:02:39, 2:02:40]: Thank you, sir. [2:02:41, 2:02:42]: Do I hear other questions? [2:02:43, 2:02:53]: If not, we'll move from item thirteen on to item fourteen regarding the M L K Senior Tourism Master Plan. [2:02:53, 2:02:57]: And we're gonna hear an update on that from [2:02:57, 2:03:01]: Councilman Alexander and this Kira Harris Braggs, our main street director. [2:03:02, 2:03:10]: Well, I will probably let Miss Harris Bragg uh lead off on what we're trying to do. I think in speaking with um [2:03:11, 2:03:25]: the C V B and the meetings that we've had with them and over it is my desire to move the process forward to actually uh have uh um a solid tourism [2:03:25, 2:03:31]: project or program together that we can actually feature [2:03:31, 2:03:34]: the the the King family legacy. [2:03:34, 2:03:36]: uh in a substantial way. [2:03:36, 2:03:37]: uh in the city. [2:03:37, 2:03:57]: Uh as the Main Street Director obviously uh you've been uh very focused on this in terms of uh our downtown area and then we you'll be able to talk about the RSV program, but it is my desire to as part of all of what we're doing is to establish a solid king [2:03:57, 2:04:16]: family legacy program uh in terms of a tourism pack practice partnering with um uh partners in the city such as Floyd Chapel Baptist Church, uh Red Oak Baptist Church to actually have those burial sites become uh tourism ready. [2:04:18, 2:04:24]: Okay. Um, you know, as Councilman Alexander has mentioned, um there are several [2:04:25, 2:04:29]: um historic sites that are related to the King legacy that are within [2:04:29, 2:04:33]: the city of Stockbridge's boundaries and then also an unincorporated [2:04:33, 2:04:34]: Henry County. Um [2:04:34, 2:04:39]: unincorporated Stock Bridge in Henry County if we want to also include Rocky Mount Baptist Church. [2:04:40, 2:04:41]: in these um [2:04:41, 2:04:42]: tourism plans. [2:04:43, 2:04:44]: Um there are some [2:04:44, 2:04:49]: things that we are trying to iron out. We have recently met with [2:04:49, 2:04:51]: Um the pastor [2:04:51, 2:04:53]: of Floyd Chapel Baptist Church. [2:04:54, 2:04:56]: to um talk about some of the [2:04:56, 2:05:02]: ideas that um we want to put in place. We talked with Pastor Cochrane [2:05:03, 2:05:05]: Um and we had representation [2:05:05, 2:05:07]: The city manager was there, I was there. [2:05:08, 2:05:11]: Um Councilwoman Robinson was there along with [2:05:11, 2:05:13]: our uh Camilla Moore, our [2:05:13, 2:05:15]: um administration and [2:05:16, 2:05:19]: community development director was there as well. [2:05:19, 2:05:20]: And [2:05:21, 2:05:21]: We [2:05:21, 2:05:23]: sat down to listen to what [2:05:24, 2:05:26]: The church has planned. [2:05:27, 2:05:28]: For themselves. [2:05:28, 2:05:32]: And that has to be considered foremost before [2:05:32, 2:05:34]: We try to step in. [2:05:34, 2:05:35]: And [2:05:35, 2:05:38]: tell them what we want to do with regard to [2:05:39, 2:05:41]: that site because it is still an active church. [2:05:42, 2:05:44]: They have services there and they have [2:05:45, 2:05:47]: А коммуніти та they serve. [2:05:47, 2:05:48]: in that area. [2:05:48, 2:05:54]: So we cannot just go in and tell them what we want to do until there is a consensus [2:05:54, 2:05:55]: As to what [2:05:55, 2:05:56]: Their plans are [2:05:56, 2:06:00]: and what the city of Stockbridge's plans are and how we can [2:06:00, 2:06:02]: um bring those two items together. [2:06:03, 2:06:05]: There's also the issue that because they are [2:06:06, 2:06:07]: An active church. [2:06:07, 2:06:08]: Um [2:06:08, 2:06:11]: with regard to what we can and can't do. [2:06:11, 2:06:13]: With regard to our relationship [2:06:13, 2:06:15]: with the church. [2:06:15, 2:06:18]: So these are things that are going to have to be discussed. [2:06:18, 2:06:22]: And um I am planning to meet with our city attorney. [2:06:23, 2:06:24]: to discuss further. [2:06:24, 2:06:28]: what it is that we can and can't do with regard to the Floyd Chapel [2:06:29, 2:06:31]: portion of the tourism project. [2:06:31, 2:06:32]: Development. [2:06:32, 2:06:33]: Um [2:06:33, 2:06:35]: It was recently stated that [2:06:35, 2:06:38]: We're at ground zero in reference to [2:06:39, 2:06:40]: Our [2:06:40, 2:06:45]: efforts with regard to cities tourism and uh Martin Luther King Senior [2:06:45, 2:06:46]: Heritage. But [2:06:46, 2:06:51]: I respectfully disagree with that particular sentiment because we have put [2:06:51, 2:06:54]: initial items in place to move this [2:06:54, 2:06:57]: particular aspect of tourism development forward. [2:06:59, 2:07:00]: For example [2:07:00, 2:07:03]: We have alerted the state tourism department. [2:07:03, 2:07:07]: to the existence of the King Senior legacy here in Stockbridge. [2:07:07, 2:07:10]: bringing state tourism product development team here. [2:07:10, 2:07:14]: two stock bridge for a tour of the proposed historic sites and development. [2:07:15, 2:07:19]: We've had the state tourism product development team provide us with recommendations. [2:07:19, 2:07:22]: And those recommendations were provided to [2:07:22, 2:07:25]: Mayor and Council when we hosted a meet and greet [2:07:25, 2:07:28]: through the Stockbridge Main Street program to announce those. [2:07:28, 2:07:30]: proposals to everyone. [2:07:30, 2:07:42]: Um I have additional copies of that. That's the report here everyone should have. Mine is well dovetailed and used, um, because this is the basis of our plan that we're working with. [2:07:42, 2:07:47]: Um we've applied for and received the Tourism Product Development Grant. [2:07:47, 2:07:48]: Um from the state. [2:07:49, 2:07:51]: We have been pitching this particular history. [2:07:52, 2:07:58]: to our Convention and Visitors Bureau, respected historic preservation publications and have articles printed about [2:07:59, 2:08:00]: Um our history here. [2:08:01, 2:08:03]: Local news mediums have been alerted and placing [2:08:04, 2:08:06]: Um the history of our program. [2:08:06, 2:08:08]: And the history of [2:08:08, 2:08:09]: this particular [2:08:09, 2:08:13]: um bit of our history on our social media outlets. [2:08:13, 2:08:18]: We placed the marker at Floyd Chapel Baptist Church and we have also [2:08:18, 2:08:24]: um place banners along the street that has been renamed in MLK Senior's honor. [2:08:24, 2:08:30]: which were reordered at the beginning of this year. We have had some issues with those particular banners. [2:08:30, 2:08:33]: And they were reordered at the beginning of this year. [2:08:33, 2:08:37]: And we've had some problems with the manufacturer, but they are supposed to be [2:08:37, 2:08:38]: um delivered to me. [2:08:38, 2:08:40]: within the next two weeks. [2:08:40, 2:08:46]: Um so they will we will be replacing those banners along Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [2:08:46, 2:08:48]: We have commissioned an artist. [2:08:48, 2:08:49]: To develop [2:08:49, 2:08:55]: Educational materials about MLK Senior that will be shared with elementary level students. [2:08:55, 2:08:58]: And we are also working with a sign fabricator. [2:08:58, 2:09:00]: sign fabricator locally [2:09:00, 2:09:05]: for the placement of interpretive signage along the MLK Senior Heritage Trail. So [2:09:05, 2:09:08]: There are things that are in place [2:09:08, 2:09:11]: as a portion of this overall strategy. [2:09:11, 2:09:14]: Um this history's been here for over eighty years. [2:09:14, 2:09:17]: But it's only now being seen. [2:09:17, 2:09:20]: as an important thread in this community's fabric. [2:09:21, 2:09:23]: So it is not that we are not [2:09:23, 2:09:28]: planning. It is not that we are not trying to push this particular [2:09:28, 2:09:35]: um project forward. But there are some infrastructure type things that need to be developed [2:09:35, 2:09:36]: before [2:09:36, 2:09:37]: We can [2:09:37, 2:09:42]: say that we have an outright plan that we are ready to move forward with. So that is gonna take [2:09:42, 2:09:46]: not just my Main Street program, the Main Street Advisory Board. [2:09:46, 2:09:53]: But we're also going to be looking to council representatives and community representatives, especially those from [2:09:53, 2:09:56]: Floyd Chapel Baptist Church because again [2:09:56, 2:09:58]: That is a privately owned property. [2:09:59, 2:09:59]: That [2:09:59, 2:10:01]: We're trying to develop a partnership. [2:10:01, 2:10:03]: or working relationship work. [2:10:03, 2:10:04]: with the best. So [2:10:04, 2:10:08]: I will need some additional counselling from our city attorney with regard to [2:10:08, 2:10:11]: how we can move that plan forward, but it is in the works. [2:10:13, 2:10:14]: Any questions? [2:10:15, 2:10:15]: Yeah. [2:10:16, 2:10:36]: Yeah, thank you, sir. First of all, I want to thank you for the presentation. Things outstanding and and things are moving in that aspect. At least we're we're taking steps there. In reference to your conversation with the attorney, my assumption is that's that you're looking at developing a contract that will allow us to do certain things to the through through the the the banner not the banner, but the actual uh [2:10:36, 2:10:47]: uh s uh markers marker that's there in the ground or round it or something with the church, is that what we're looking at trying to do, establish some type of contract with them to allow us to do certain things? Is that what we're talking about? Well we have already [2:10:47, 2:10:50]: receive permission from them to have the marker placed there. Right. [2:10:51, 2:10:51]: But [2:10:51, 2:11:00]: Um when you talk about developing a tourism site, you have to have more than just a marker. You want people to be able to experience [2:11:00, 2:11:03]: The history when they arrived to the destination. [2:11:03, 2:11:03]: This was just [2:11:04, 2:11:06]: Step one, phase one of brink [2:11:07, 2:11:10]: developing this into a actual tourism site. [2:11:10, 2:11:11]: Um [2:11:11, 2:11:13]: Again, this is a active church and [2:11:14, 2:11:34]: if we're going to set up tours, if we're going to have a place for people to visit, there has to be some discussion with the church as to what that is going to actually be and what they're prepared to do. I know that they have plans for building another sanctuary. Um once that happens, perhaps that is a site that can be open to the public on a [2:11:34, 2:11:38]: regular basis, but those are the things that have to be explored further. [2:11:38, 2:11:42]: Um my staff and I have been [2:11:42, 2:11:43]: um talking to [2:11:43, 2:11:45]: churches in and around the area. [2:11:46, 2:11:49]: that have tours set up in those particular churches. [2:11:50, 2:11:57]: the first African Baptist Church in um Macon, Georgia, the Tappas Monastery Monastery here in um Conyers. [2:11:58, 2:11:58]: Uh we have a [2:11:59, 2:11:59]: When [2:11:59, 2:12:05]: talking to these professionals that have established church museums, church tours. [2:12:05, 2:12:07]: to see where we can t what [2:12:08, 2:12:10]: we need to do in order to [2:12:10, 2:12:11]: advise the church. [2:12:12, 2:12:16]: as to the steps that they can take to make these types of things happen. [2:12:16, 2:12:18]: But until we have [2:12:18, 2:12:20]: Um I guess a more [2:12:20, 2:12:22]: clearly defined relationship. [2:12:22, 2:12:23]: We [2:12:24, 2:12:25]: Cannot move. [2:12:25, 2:12:26]: forward with [2:12:26, 2:12:28]: everything that we want to do. For example [2:12:29, 2:12:31]: Um there is a grant that's available that's a [2:12:32, 2:12:34]: federal grant through the civil rights um [2:12:35, 2:12:38]: civil rights funding through the federal system. [2:12:38, 2:12:40]: And that is an opportunity. [2:12:40, 2:12:40]: The [2:12:41, 2:12:44]: we would love to have and take advantage of, but at this point [2:12:44, 2:12:46]: We're not ready for that because [2:12:47, 2:12:49]: Number one of the criteria is [2:12:49, 2:12:52]: the site has to be on the National Historic Register. [2:12:52, 2:12:56]: Well, that's not something that the city can necessarily do. [2:12:56, 2:12:58]: for property that does we do not own. [2:12:58, 2:13:01]: So that is something that we would have to [2:13:01, 2:13:02]: Um [2:13:02, 2:13:03]: B in [2:13:03, 2:13:10]: I guess, agreement with the church if that's something that they even want to move forward with. They might not want to be on the register. I would think that they could. [2:13:10, 2:13:12]: But those are the types of things. [2:13:12, 2:13:16]: that are still under investigation, that we're trying to establish [2:13:16, 2:13:19]: before we start moving forward with trying to [2:13:19, 2:13:20]: Get funding. [2:13:20, 2:13:22]: trying to create tours. [2:13:22, 2:13:25]: trying to do the things that people see as [2:13:26, 2:13:28]: tourism sites or tourism attractions. [2:13:28, 2:13:31]: There's foundation work that needs to be done first. [2:13:31, 2:13:51]: Thank you for that. And I know the Mr Williams will greatly help you on that. He's you know, so tighten that up. Uh curiosity question in reference to banners. You said that uh you had to order some more. Is it th they'll begin weather worn, torn or whatnot? What that's what's happening with'em? Yes. Okay, so they're not durable enough or or just the material that was used was a um [2:13:51, 2:13:58]: fabric material that was um not as weather ready as we had anticipated it to be. [2:13:58, 2:14:02]: I ordered those banners um through the Safeguard um corporation. [2:14:02, 2:14:04]: And um actually [2:14:04, 2:14:10]: talked with them at the National Main Street Conference. They had they were a vendor and I talked with them further about [2:14:10, 2:14:14]: um the fabric that was used for our particular banners. [2:14:14, 2:14:18]: If you've noticed the ones that are in the downtown area that say historic district [2:14:19, 2:14:20]: have been replaced. [2:14:21, 2:14:35]: It's the MLK senior ones that um did not arrive in the shipment when they sent them to us. So I had to reorder those. So what you reordered is the same is it better quality, more durable quality? Okay. All right, got it. Thank you. [2:14:35, 2:14:36]: Mayor. [2:14:36, 2:14:38]: Okay. Uh Ms. Robinson. [2:14:38, 2:14:45]: Yes. Thank you, Kira, um, for your presentation. Also just want to let the council know that um [2:14:46, 2:14:52]: It was start of conversation and a lot of times to me th that was lack of [2:14:52, 2:14:57]: So now the beginning of this process of bringing in the attorney, like you said. [2:14:57, 2:15:12]: what can and cannot because there was some in this meeting there was some unknowns. Um so now that we know i to me and I guess to me just being honest sometimes you put the cart before the horse and now communicating [2:15:13, 2:15:25]: We are aware of a lot of the unknowns at between the city and the church. And I think that's where it was lacking and now that if um Michael we can get you involved and then that would be [2:15:26, 2:15:30]: really helpful, um, because like I said, the meeting left [2:15:30, 2:15:50]: Pastor Cochrane very very optim you know, very excited knowing that the communication is now going forth with the church in the city. So with that being stated, hopefully we can cure it can set up you know more meetings that are upcoming. And then Michael, if it's a possibility to include other counselors. [2:15:50, 2:16:02]: council so that way everyone will be aware of what's going on, what is re what is needed to h uh help Main Street get, you know, where we need to be in this.'Cause I think it's gonna take [2:16:03, 2:16:05]: a big effort. Um [2:16:05, 2:16:06]: to get this done. [2:16:07, 2:16:12]: And I think it can be done um if we have all the council involved and their input as well. [2:16:13, 2:16:22]: And I do thank you for those comments because you've hit the nail right on the head. Um this is a very prestigious family that has roots here in our community. [2:16:23, 2:16:25]: They are very protective and rightly so. [2:16:25, 2:16:29]: of the reputation and how their name is treated. [2:16:29, 2:16:30]: in the public. [2:16:31, 2:16:34]: And so we want to do this the right way. [2:16:34, 2:16:36]: And we want to make sure that we do it well. [2:16:36, 2:16:39]: And so I have truly um [2:16:39, 2:16:42]: enjoyed your participation with this because [2:16:42, 2:16:43]: Um [2:16:43, 2:16:48]: Like you said, it's gonna take all of us really to put this together if we wanna do it the right way. [2:16:51, 2:17:11]: Okay. Any other comments or questions? Yes, just one uh if we might be able to. Uh in terms of you said um that we were notified and the state made circu certain recommendations to us already at this point. And of course we got uh Mr Williams coming on board the V and [2:17:10, 2:17:15]: engaged uh firmly in the process. Um [2:17:15, 2:17:35]: What what it what else is it that we as a council can do to make sure that the ball just keeps rolling uh in terms of uh moving these initiatives along so the public can identify these these sites. So what is it that we can do um to help hit these [2:17:35, 2:17:55]: uh state stand standard recommendations and some of the things I think like Miss Count well Councilwoman Robinson was working with Lloyd Champell on is you know partnering to had sidewalks or multi use paths to make it um you know attainable for people to come in and be able to walk the situ walk there [2:17:55, 2:18:15]: benches and all of that. And I think that's something that we need to nail down with the church so uh we can partner with them and and and see what's what what's possible so we can get the ball rolling. But the state recommendations that were provided to [2:18:15, 2:18:17]: to us by the um State Tourism Department. [2:18:18, 2:18:18]: Um [2:18:18, 2:18:31]: And as far as what we need, um, the council is going to have to start contemplating funding for these types of things. Um there will need to be money set aside for [2:18:31, 2:18:40]: matching fund grants. Um there will also be monies that need to be set aside if we are going to develop a collection around this particular [2:18:40, 2:18:41]: um history. [2:18:42, 2:18:51]: Um we're gonna have to collect artifacts. Those are the types of things that in the not right now, but in the future you all are going to have to start to contemplate. [2:18:51, 2:18:56]: um collateral materials and things like that are all gonna be a part of that. [2:18:56, 2:19:00]: And all of this is also wrapped into the whole branding initiative. [2:19:00, 2:19:04]: And the RSVP program that I'll be talking to you all in the next agenda item. [2:19:04, 2:19:05]: Um [2:19:05, 2:19:09]: Those are the types of um things that we're going to have to start contemplating. [2:19:09, 2:19:10]: Um [2:19:10, 2:19:14]: At one time there was discussion about the Main Street program having [2:19:14, 2:19:17]: a welcome centre established in the Main Street district. [2:19:17, 2:19:20]: This was supposed to be one of our SPLAS projects. [2:19:20, 2:19:25]: And I would like to see us move forward with that because once we establish a welcome centre [2:19:26, 2:19:28]: We can also highlight this history. [2:19:28, 2:19:35]: in our welcome center, Main Street program office, downtown office downtown development office, whatever it is that you want to call it. [2:19:35, 2:19:37]: But we do need to have [2:19:37, 2:19:44]: a place that can serve as a repository and a location for people that come into our community as visitors. [2:19:45, 2:19:45]: And [2:19:45, 2:19:51]: The community itself come in to learn more about this history, especially when we have [2:19:51, 2:19:55]: Um the church is still an active church, so it's not accessible to the public. [2:19:55, 2:20:01]: on a twenty four seven basis. We need to have some place where they will be able to go [2:20:01, 2:20:03]: um when they are in the area. [2:20:05, 2:20:06]: A any further questions? [2:20:07, 2:20:11]: No. Okay, so are we gonna you're gonna talk about the RSDP now? [2:20:11, 2:20:13]: I can if you are alone. Go right into that. [2:20:14, 2:20:15]: Yeah. Right in that, please. [2:20:16, 2:20:21]: Um discussion my item number four was the um downtown master plan update. [2:20:21, 2:20:41]: Um as I've mentioned to you all before, um in twenty eleven the Georgia Downtown Renaissance Renaissance Partnership, which consists of the Georgia Municipal Association, the Georgia Cities Foundation, and the University of Georgia's Carl Vincent Institute, um put together a partnership that also developed um [2:20:41, 2:20:50]: a program called the Renaissance Strategic Visiting and Planning Program or RSVP program. This is a program where only [2:20:50, 2:20:52]: Um select cities. [2:20:52, 2:20:57]: are chosen from across the state of Georgia in which to participate in this program. [2:20:58, 2:21:01]: It's highly competitive and a prestigious program to be a part of. [2:21:02, 2:21:03]: And I'm happy to announce [2:21:04, 2:21:08]: that the city of Stockbridge was chosen to be a part of this program. [2:21:08, 2:21:11]: along with the city of Ringold and the City of Jessup, Georgia. [2:21:12, 2:21:13]: A tu jest. [2:21:18, 2:21:22]: With this programme we will be able to work with [2:21:22, 2:21:29]: a group of seasoned professionals that their specialty is downtown development. That's all that they do. [2:21:29, 2:21:31]: They come into communities. [2:21:31, 2:21:32]: And they work with [2:21:33, 2:21:33]: Um [2:21:34, 2:21:36]: citizens, city leadership. [2:21:37, 2:21:44]: and all of those stakeholders who want to be a part of the discussion to make a downtown more viable [2:21:44, 2:21:45]: More inviting. [2:21:46, 2:21:49]: And what it is that we want to see here in the city of Stockbridge. [2:21:50, 2:21:57]: Um we will we just found out that we were accepted into this program so that we will be meeting with [2:21:57, 2:22:02]: the um partner programs to see exactly what our timeline will be. [2:22:02, 2:22:14]: and when we will be able to roll out this program. It is my um desire to try to get this rolled out um with the kickoff meeting sometime in June or July. [2:22:14, 2:22:15]: But [2:22:15, 2:22:17]: I have to work with the [2:22:17, 2:22:21]: um timeline that is given to me by the partnering organisations. [2:22:21, 2:22:24]: Uh once I have that timeline established [2:22:24, 2:22:27]: Um I will report back to you all to let you know um [2:22:28, 2:22:30]: what that is going to look like. [2:22:30, 2:22:32]: And of course we would want [2:22:32, 2:22:36]: our council members to be active in this particular process. [2:22:36, 2:22:48]: Uh we will be looking to the Main Street Advisory Board and the Downtown Development Authority to be a part of this process as well as looking to community stakeholders and citizens to be a part of this as well. [2:22:49, 2:22:55]: We are hoping that this particular planning and visioning will also be able to dovetail [2:22:55, 2:22:58]: Від тис убінь компрегенси план. [2:22:58, 2:23:01]: so that there will be a downtown specific plan. [2:23:01, 2:23:04]: with in that particular comprehensive plan. [2:23:05, 2:23:25]: Okay. Uh Mayor, you're back? Okay, I'm back. Are we still on Martin Luther King? R S V Pate. Okay. All right. Council behind the questions. Okay. Council behind questions for care. Yes, I do. In terms of uh obviously we would have to have some matching funding, is there when was the when will the actual award [2:23:25, 2:23:37]: uh of the funding the announcers that time. Once I meet with them for them to give us the timeline and how mu we can receive up to nine thousand dollars from the Georgia Cities Foundation. [2:23:37, 2:23:50]: And then um they will let us know. It depends on the extent of the project. Um a lot of our work has already actually been done. Um the Main Street program, as you all know, because most of you have attended our meet and greets. [2:23:50, 2:23:54]: We put a lot of work into already trying to get a vision for our downtown. [2:23:54, 2:23:58]: So some of that work has already been done. We've also worked with [2:23:58, 2:24:02]: the um Office of Downtown Development's Design Um Studio. [2:24:02, 2:24:09]: to create some facade planning for our downtown quarter, the Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [2:24:09, 2:24:14]: and the Birch Street corridor. So some of those things have already been done, so we're kind of [2:24:14, 2:24:15]: ahead of the game. [2:24:15, 2:24:21]: um with regard to the planning. So I'm thinking that our timeline is gonna be a little bit narrower. [2:24:21, 2:24:41]: than some of the other cities working with this. But as soon as I know I will let you know. So those graphics have already been completed by the downtown design? Are those available for us to take a look at? We've done facade and I had them at our last meet and greet um on the big posters, but I'd be happy to share those with you. Farm Beautiful was one of [2:24:41, 2:24:46]: of those um Barn Beautiful for those of you who don't know is one of our newest businesses that we'll be hosting. [2:24:47, 2:24:50]: A ribbon cutting in two weeks, so you're all invited. [2:24:50, 2:24:51]: But um anyway [2:24:51, 2:24:59]: Um, their facade was created by the downtown design studio. They didn't take all of the elements, but that is an example of one of the [2:24:59, 2:25:04]: um design plans that we've already put together. We've created that whole block [2:25:04, 2:25:08]: The design studio is gonna be coming in for the second half of the block, so [2:25:08, 2:25:12]: um from mid um Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [2:25:12, 2:25:14]: over to the um [2:25:14, 2:25:17]: old fire station is going to be contemplated through their design studio. [2:25:18, 2:25:19]: Oh thank you. [2:25:19, 2:25:19]: Mm-hmm. [2:25:21, 2:25:22]: Any other questions? [2:25:22, 2:25:42]: I just would like to make a comment um for the co my colleagues. I just hope that we can move forward on identifying a place for our welcome center.'Cause I really truly believe once we b move forward on that, a lot of things will start to come into play. So hopefully like you said, if that's PLOS, whatever. [2:25:42, 2:25:50]: I just hopefully that that could be something we can move on fairly quickly um in getting that done because that's very important. [2:25:50, 2:25:54]: um to have when we're asking businesses to move in our downtown [2:25:55, 2:25:58]: We just need that in place, like right now. [2:25:58, 2:26:10]: And if you are familiar with some of the other cities in our area like Locust Grove, like Hampton, like McDonough, um where I've worked previously, the Welcome Center doesn't just serve people that are visiting the community [2:26:10, 2:26:14]: it serves those business owners who are already located and it's [2:26:14, 2:26:16]: essential to business retention. [2:26:19, 2:26:27]: All right. Any other questions on that subject? If not, we're going to move on to item number fifteen. Thank you very much. Mm-hmm. Thank you, Kira. [2:26:28, 2:26:31]: And we're gonna have a splash update presented by [2:26:31, 2:26:33]: Um our [2:26:33, 2:26:34]: Treasurer. [2:26:34, 2:26:40]: and uh public works director with some lead from councilman alexander. [2:26:43, 2:26:44]: Are you all ready? [2:26:45, 2:26:48]: Linda? Yeah. Okay, he's coming first. [2:26:48, 2:26:51]: Okay, while they come up [2:26:51, 2:26:52]: Um [2:26:52, 2:26:53]: I think [2:26:53, 2:26:57]: It is incumbent upon us as a council [2:26:57, 2:26:59]: And as the city to [2:27:00, 2:27:20]: to move forward with splotch projects um that have been on the books, uh that have been uh out there for quite some time. Uh we've talked about uh green space acquisition plans, we've talked about um you know parks and recreation, we talked about [2:27:19, 2:27:39]: out um you know, splash path for the children, possible aquatic center, those types of things, um uh or or a pool or those types of things for our citizens so that we could move forward. You know, it was you know, as I read uh the Henry Harold here uh locally I I printed out a article [2:27:39, 2:27:40]: Um [2:27:41, 2:28:01]: for us all to read whereas you know the city of McDonough has you know their program that they're rolling out they're investing millions of dollars in local parks, one point three million dollars in Alexander Park, five hundred thousand dollars uh in the new Jonesboro Road Park. They have a comprehensive program that they're hitting the [2:28:01, 2:28:21]: ground running and there are cities all around of us. This is really a competition. It really is in terms of serving and being able to provide the best possible services that we possibly can for the citizens as we move along. Originally the special needs program that we were implementing [2:28:21, 2:28:38]: in the city was d being done under spLOS and then those funds were replaced by C D V G funds uh to be able to fund those particular programs. But as we look around and we have this cash reserve in our SPLOS department [2:28:38, 2:28:58]: And in our spLOS areas, we need to make some concrete decisions as the council uh with the timeline to prioritize the projects so that that we can actually move them out uh in in due course and that they don't sit um uh for an undue period of time. There wasn't [2:28:58, 2:29:18]: discussion uh previously uh in a retreat about actually bringing on a SPLOSS projects manager who could actually manage the process for us to make sure that we uh continue to roll along uh with the projects as they came along. And we uh as a council have [2:29:18, 2:29:38]: have to make some solid decisions on what we're going to prioritize. Councilwoman Robinson just really mentioned you know one of the potential projects which is the Main Street uh office and uh what we want to do with that. There's a lot of things that are kinda hanging that we [2:29:38, 2:29:58]: need to put on a timeline. I think last uh meeting we established that we're gonna actually have an administrative type of function where we have the projects actually listed in our books, but we really need to come up with a priority plan uh as we move along. [2:29:58, 2:30:18]: With the council making those decisions for the actual SPLOSS projects and in the order that we're going to roll them off in. I know we need to have the the public works facility that's already uh moving forward. We've seen the rendering with that, but all of the projects uh need to be determined. We talked about [2:30:18, 2:30:19]: Well. [2:30:19, 2:30:39]: Uh you know we've already passed a master trail plan uh program for the city that has to be funded. Uh as we talked about uh the MLK senior legacy, the MLK Senior Heritage Trail, we don't have the sidewalk or the multi use trail which would be my preference has not been [2:30:39, 2:30:59]: Finished at this point, and it needs to go all the way to Rock Quarry Road. That's something that we should probably take a look at in doing in this particular project. But I just kind of wanted to lead off of that in terms of letting the citizens know the SPLOS program is working, it's generating millions of [2:30:59, 2:31:19]: dollars for Henry County and is generating millions of dollars uh for the city of Stockbridge. We can make some of these projects happen that we want to happen. We just gotta put our foot on the gas and we gotta be able to do it in a in a organized function uh to keep the projects rolling. Thank you. [2:31:21, 2:31:22]: Mr. Aaron. [2:31:22, 2:31:24]: Yes, good evening again, Madam Mayor and Council. [2:31:25, 2:31:33]: Um well one of the things I don't know about the other supplies projects, but I know in public works that we're moving forward with projects that have been identified [2:31:34, 2:31:53]: And this is a list of our splots projects that were identified in wastewater that we're moving forward with. Uh the one we came for tonight, asking for the upgrades of the headworks at the wastewater treatment plant. That's in process. We're also I'm sorry. Um do you have extra copies? [2:32:05, 2:32:07]: Pani Przewodnicząca. [2:32:12, 2:32:29]: Talk about that. But uh the SPAS projects as far as public works, we are moving forward with them. But a lot of these projects gonna are not gonna be the projects that everybody go wow about. Mm-hmm. But they're needed. When you talk about economic development or industries and businesses coming to your city [2:32:29, 2:32:35]: If you don't have the infrastructure to support those, they're gonna look elsewhere for places that have the infrastructure in place. [2:32:35, 2:32:37]: Yeah, the parts look nice, we're gonna do those. [2:32:37, 2:32:39]: Builders look nice, but [2:32:39, 2:32:41]: You've got to have infrastructure in place. [2:32:42, 2:32:43]: That's proven every day. [2:32:44, 2:32:49]: And one of the things like I say you just approved tonight is to upgrade the head work set and wastewater treatment plant. [2:32:49, 2:33:02]: Next things we're gonna be coming for you asking we got test orders ready to move forward with is to upgrade our filters and our UV system at the wastewater plant. This is the final stage of treatment before we discharge into the waters of the state. [2:33:03, 2:33:07]: And that water's got to meet certain criteria in order for us to put it back into [2:33:07, 2:33:10]: that creep. If it don't, we're out of compliance. [2:33:10, 2:33:12]: And so that's gonna be very important. [2:33:13, 2:33:16]: And also we're gonna come back to you asking [2:33:16, 2:33:18]: approval of task orders to upgrade our skater system. [2:33:19, 2:33:21]: A lot of things we're doing manually now. [2:33:21, 2:33:23]: And we're way behind the time. [2:33:24, 2:33:30]: You know, day as far as gone when the person comes in and and change the way or move away here, move that. You can do it at home from [2:33:31, 2:33:37]: from a computer. Or something happens a piece of equipment goes down, you get a notice. If not, you find it a week [2:33:38, 2:33:41]: A week later, a couple of days later when you come back to work, if you come in on [2:33:42, 2:33:50]: leave on Friday and come back on Monday, you don't get a warning or notice on Saturday and Sunday. We have people that come in but outside of those hours [2:33:51, 2:33:53]: So a skater would really help with that. [2:33:53, 2:34:03]: And also with our wastewater treatment chemical feed system, that's old and aged. We've got to replace and upgrade that. So we're gonna be coming back to you with that item. [2:34:04, 2:34:07]: Then we got some splash water projects we're working on. [2:34:08, 2:34:22]: Yep, Let's so water superintendent and I have had conversations with Fayette County Water System. We have two wells over there by Reed Creek Trail that is on property that Fayette County purchased as part of a wetland mitigation. [2:34:23, 2:34:29]: And so we've had conversations with them, we're working on agreement to allow us to test those well to see if they're gonna be a part of the cities. [2:34:29, 2:34:49]: uh water system. You allocated three million dollars for a new water treatment plant. So well we gotta get those two sources over there tested first before we move forward with that. We also uh replacing our meters, all of our meters with the AMI. That's moving forward. We should start by the end of this month. We also we got over seven hundred plastic [2:34:49, 2:35:01]: plastic services in our distribution system that cause us problems constantly. We're having leaks at those at those locations. So one of the things we're gonna come back to with a task force is to replace all of those. [2:35:01, 2:35:02]: Because [2:35:02, 2:35:04]: It's really a problem for the system. [2:35:05, 2:35:11]: Then also we're gonna come back with you for the water system. We got test waters being developed to upgrade our skater system so we [2:35:12, 2:35:13]: Go from manual to automated. [2:35:14, 2:35:19]: And we also gonna ask you to approve passports to map our distribution system. [2:35:20, 2:35:29]: to develop a hydraulic model of our water system. So when a company wanna come and locate and stock bridge, that's one of the first things you ask, how much sewer capacity you have. [2:35:29, 2:35:46]: how much water capacity you have, what water pressure, what size water mains you have. If you don't know all that information it's not readily available, they're gonna go on to their companies are looking at ways to disqualify you. And those are some of the things that they use to disqualify you from consideration. [2:35:46, 2:35:48]: Then the next thing we're gonna come back is [2:35:48, 2:35:53]: our have established a backflow prevention and cross connection control programme. [2:35:53, 2:35:56]: The city of Stockbridge currently right now requires [2:35:57, 2:35:59]: New businesses, commercial. [2:35:59, 2:36:02]: putting back four prevention devices. [2:36:02, 2:36:03]: But they don't monitor it. [2:36:03, 2:36:06]: So we don't know if they function or not. [2:36:06, 2:36:17]: So we can have a potential contamination problem out there in our distribution system because the Stockbridge City of Stockbridge has nothing on its in its ordinance that says they're required to test these annually. [2:36:18, 2:36:38]: and submit those test results back to us. They don't do that. So we're gonna be coming forward, and I said these are not glamorous items, but they're needed items. So we're gonna be coming back to you with that. As far as our roads and bridges and sidewalks, we're currently maintaining the LMIG has helped us. We had uh two million dollars [2:36:38, 2:36:45]: allocated. So far we spent about a million two on L Mid resurfacing and things of that nature. [2:36:46, 2:36:52]: We've also uh got a sidewalk project on Davis Road. Eventually we're gonna have to decide whether we're gonna move forward with it or [2:36:52, 2:36:53]: Yeah. [2:36:53, 2:37:04]: go in another area and also in two thousand and nineteen that'll be five years since you had your road assessment. So we're gonna need another road assessment. We set aside fifty thousand dollars for that. [2:37:05, 2:37:07]: The In and Off Splash Parks and Recoration Projects. [2:37:08, 2:37:14]: Just taking down a multiplex building, that's gonna be a decision that has to be made, what goes back on that space. [2:37:15, 2:37:16]: And then we also [2:37:17, 2:37:25]: Recreation water f facility, you talked about a splash pad. A lot of people are getting in the splash pad. They just built a couple and make them deep county. You gotta decide if that's [2:37:26, 2:37:28]: That's a project we want to move forward with. [2:37:29, 2:37:34]: You know, where is it gonna be located? Which one of your parts are you gonna locate it? [2:37:34, 2:37:36]: And then with that new park equipment. [2:37:36, 2:37:41]: Well, we've done several lighting projects with Georgia Power, upgrading lighting in our parks. [2:37:41, 2:37:42]: Uh [2:37:42, 2:37:43]: Donald and I met [2:37:44, 2:37:49]: last week with some people about the inclusive playground at Clark Park, so that's moving forward. [2:37:50, 2:37:51]: [9472.1, 9474.2]: It was sealed what on Monday? [2:37:54, 2:37:57]: Frida Friday or Monday, so that's moving forward. [2:37:58, 2:38:01]: And then we've got the public works facility. [2:38:02, 2:38:11]: We're moving forward with that. Uh tonight I was hoping we got the agenda amended to add the task order for Pond to continue proceeding with the documents. [2:38:11, 2:38:31]: prepare the construction documents'cause our goal is to have that b building bid it out October one. And so if m mayor and council are agreeable, we'd like for you to move forward that task order so we can keep moving. Because one of the things I don't want to say get sit idle with projects. Mm-hmm. We're constantly pushing [2:38:31, 2:38:33]: I I've heard what you say, Councilman Alexander that [2:38:34, 2:38:41]: the council is aggressive. We're aggressive. We want to keep pushing to move forward because if you don't then things just language and you [2:38:42, 2:38:44]: You get too scattered in different directions but [2:38:45, 2:38:48]: We want to approve that tonight so we can move forward with [2:38:48, 2:38:54]: Getting that building built and designed.'Cause like I said, October first we're gonna be breaking ground on that building. [2:38:54, 2:39:06]: I think three years is long enough, it's too long. You've got people that public works are that scattered at two different facilities. So it's time to bring everybody under one roof cause. When you get people scattered in [2:39:06, 2:39:12]: it it creates disharmony because everybody's not there with each other, you don't get a chance to fellowship and and talk and things like that. [2:39:13, 2:39:17]: And then the last thing I'll talk about is our storm water management. [2:39:17, 2:39:23]: There was nothing allocated in in the spots for stormwater. And there are some projects that need to be done. [2:39:23, 2:39:28]: And right now we're using our fund balance that was accumulated in the stormwater. [2:39:29, 2:39:30]: uh utility. [2:39:30, 2:39:33]: And so one of the things we ask you tonight also is [2:39:34, 2:39:35]: a task order from [2:39:35, 2:39:38]: ecologic which is to do a analysis [2:39:38, 2:39:40]: of our stormwater utility fees. [2:39:41, 2:39:46]: 'Cause when they first did the utility they said city of Stockbridge fees were some of the lowest in the state. [2:39:47, 2:39:53]: And so if we're gonna keep operating it like a business and it's being able to pay for itself [2:39:53, 2:40:02]: and also set aside money for improvement, then we've got to have a rate review. We've got to have that done. So those are two things tonight that we're asking from [2:40:03, 2:40:05]: Os plus perspective is [2:40:05, 2:40:07]: One is the pond. [2:40:07, 2:40:13]: task order that will you'll allow us to move forward, to keep moving forward with the design of the public works administration building. [2:40:14, 2:40:16]: And other things, the task order from ecologic to [2:40:17, 2:40:19]: uh review our stormwater. [2:40:19, 2:40:20]: Please. [2:40:20, 2:40:24]: But uh I I understand what you're saying about squash. We wanna move forward but [2:40:25, 2:40:35]: We wanna have projects identified and like I said, a lot of the public works projects are not the glamorous things that everybody gets to see. Mm-hmm. They're things that are much needed. [2:40:35, 2:40:38]: And we're moving forward with those very diligently. [2:40:38, 2:40:41]: We're pushing every day to get these projects done. [2:40:41, 2:40:46]: And so the money's there and one of the things like I said last time when I gave a presentation [2:40:46, 2:40:48]: We're using the pay as we go. [2:40:48, 2:40:53]: You know, I don't know if the city wanna get into debt borrowing money to pay for it because [2:40:53, 2:40:57]: revenues are are not coming in as expected in a lot of places with spots. [2:40:57, 2:41:00]: You know, it's just an estimate of how much revenue we're gonna receive. [2:41:01, 2:41:03]: And we gotta be mindful of that as as we [2:41:03, 2:41:09]: take on these projects and we're trying to make sure that we stay within the confines of the money that we have. [2:41:09, 2:41:20]: 'Cause we don't wanna overextend or over commit ourselves to to doing projects. But the ones that we have identified we're moving forward with them, we're gonna be bringing a lot of things before you. [2:41:21, 2:41:26]: And we're gonna be asking for your support because they're much in needed. And we're gonna move forward, we're gonna get [2:41:26, 2:41:29]: The list of projects that were given to me when I got here [2:41:29, 2:41:30]: We're gonna get those done. [2:41:31, 2:41:35]: But I've I've gotta have your support when I bring it to you saying these are the things we need. [2:41:36, 2:41:37]: No questions? [2:41:38, 2:41:40]: Okay. Mayor. [2:41:41, 2:42:01]: Um I will say with this council, everything that's on the list and normally when public work stands before us, we're very supportive uh because we know the importance of it. Um but there's other things that we uh require as well, so hopefully we can work together to make sure that things that we're looking to have done and to assist [2:42:01, 2:42:20]: making sure that you get what you need done as well. Um for is the Swas Parks and Recreation Project, Clark Park, um says we're moving a lot of some of our events over there. Um it was on there to redo the walking trail. Was that uh on the list? [2:42:20, 2:42:40]: Jeff Greenway and his and his staff have done some paving over there sidewalks and things, uh replacing those actual walking trail because sometimes when you walk and it's not the it's some dips in it. [2:42:40, 2:42:42]: something that we discussed. [2:42:42, 2:42:46]: uh when we get ready to do the uh b the walk in October. [2:42:46, 2:42:54]: And it just needs to be resurfaced. So I didn't know if that was a part of this, if that was on the SPLOSS. [2:42:54, 2:42:59]: Renovations piece for West Park Park. [2:42:59, 2:43:15]: the uh set aside you have for the new parks and things like that, we'll look at that. But that wasn't on the list that I received when I I got here. But we'll look at that if that's something we need to move forward with. That shouldn't be nothing that takes a lot of time to get prepared. [2:43:15, 2:43:20]: Okay. Uh that was a good report. Any other questions, comments? [2:43:25, 2:43:39]: and also at Gardner Park um that really uh lights it up. But that that there in the works. Also uh we're putting out a bid for resurfacing the tennis courts, which part of it. [2:43:40, 2:44:00]: Absolutely that was good. Uh w question about um you know, I've been over doing all my tours of the park and everything. About the dog park. Wha wha wha how m what do we need to do to to get the dog park to be an exemplary uh dog park in this area where we got grass and [2:43:59, 2:44:17]: In there the the f everything in there, the fountains are working, all the above. Not sure'cause I haven't been updated since I asked the question previously. We're working on a fountain but one of the things I'll tell if you go to any doll park pretty much in the state of Georgia, there is no grass. We just built one in Perry before I left. [2:44:18, 2:44:19]: You know what the main foc [2:44:19, 2:44:27]: Focus the other people like about it? It has shade. It has trees over it. Their dogs can get out there and dig and dig up dirt and things like that. [2:44:27, 2:44:32]: They're not gonna be manicured like a park. When you got a place where animals are constantly using a restroom [2:44:32, 2:44:35]: is not going to be conducive to growing grass. [2:44:35, 2:44:42]: So the main thing people like is they have a place for their animal to go outside and be able to run and things like that. They're not looking at it for [2:44:43, 2:44:51]: the status of grass and things like that. They want water, they want a fence so their animals don't get out, but it's mainly a place for their pet to run. [2:44:52, 2:45:01]: It's not it's not about brass. I I got pictures of the one in Perry, I got one I took in uh when I went to Jeffrey'cause I was telling my leisure services director. [2:45:01, 2:45:02]: The other's pretty much sand. [2:45:03, 2:45:13]: You know, you're not really gonna grow grass. Go to most dog parks, you're not gonna see a lot of grass anyway because when you clean a dog park area [2:45:13, 2:45:21]: It's easy to identify where you need to clean. You go grass in the dog park area, you're gonna find a bunch of sick dogs around uh the city. [2:45:21, 2:45:23]: But that's what dogs do. Dogs dig. [2:45:23, 2:45:43]: Well when I was talking to the pet owners that were there, they were complaining that their dogs were going home filthy because there was no grass. That's what I'm hearing from the pet owners as the feedback was that of course they don't expect it to be manicured like a golf course, but they did expect there to be some grass there. [2:45:43, 2:46:03]: And also, and when I say, you know, w what we want it to look good, there could be particular areas in the park outside the fence. Like the area outside the fence is kind of filled with weeds, it's kind of unsightly. Those types of things is where you put, you know, the beautification or the mulch or what have you. [2:46:03, 2:46:23]: you outside to make it attractive uh b upon entry to the area and that you know we do and then the other thing that I was talking was just in terms of the overall you know the the exercise equipment and stuff for the pets in there so that when they got in there that it was an attractive uh area for [2:46:23, 2:46:43]: for them to be in. I don't expect it to be manicured like a golf course, but the feedback that I was getting when I was walking through there was they were complaining that especially that there were drainage issues uh as well that dealt with that that it was muddy in there. Well one of the things you gotta look at though i is partly wet [2:46:43, 2:46:49]: where you have the the dog is not the best available property or location you could have put a dog park. [2:46:50, 2:46:53]: And those are gonna be some of the issues any time it rains that you're dealing with. [2:46:53, 2:46:56]: Because it's it's not an area that drains real well, but [2:46:56, 2:47:01]: We'll take a look at the outside and things of that nature, but as I say, on the inside [2:47:02, 2:47:03]: Dolls won't be dogs. [2:47:03, 2:47:23]: Yeah, they're gonna be dogs. I appreciate that. And the un the un one thing the gentleman told me that was there that had been there, he said one of the drains he had noticed was carved up. It had dirt on top of it, it was caked in, it was actually buried because he had been coming for so long, but he had actually seen that. [2:47:23, 2:47:25]: Yes, we'll we'll take a look at those. [2:47:27, 2:47:34]: All right. But I need to ask you that if I can get a consensus or a gr that we can move forward with the pond [2:47:35, 2:47:40]: task order and the task order to review and revise our stormwater fees. [2:47:43, 2:47:45]: Is there a cost? [2:47:45, 2:47:53]: Yes, ma'am, with with the uh pond. I said that part of the building with pond is um [2:47:55, 2:47:56]: Yeah. [2:48:00, 2:48:03]: A hundred and seventy two thousand seven hundred and sixty dollars. [2:48:06, 2:48:09]: Where would that money come from, Linda? [2:48:10, 2:48:10]: [10093.8, 10096.8]: So would is this coming as an amendment? [2:48:17, 2:48:22]: In order to move this forward or it's just already in there. It's just second phase. Okay. [2:48:25, 2:48:33]: design, the rendering of the and then that's just do you need the architectural part of it next to move forward to the construction part I think. [2:48:33, 2:48:46]: Yes. Okay, so this is the natural order of progression to make sure you finish one thing you started. So would you state exactly what you want to us to approve and we'll get you a motion? [2:48:46, 2:48:50]: That if uh Mayor Council will approve the task order from Pond Company. [2:48:51, 2:48:53]: in the amount of [2:48:54, 2:48:59]: A hundred and seventy eight thousand nine hundred and twenty dollars. [2:49:00, 2:49:01]: So moving. [2:49:02, 2:49:02]: Take it [2:49:02, 2:49:08]: And can we have a motion by um Councilman Alexander in a second by Pro Tem Ford? [2:49:08, 2:49:10]: Is there any discussion on this? [2:49:11, 2:49:13]: Okay. All in favor? [2:49:16, 2:49:22]: All right, thank you. And the next one is for documents. [2:49:22, 2:49:25]: DMC sixteen five. [2:49:25, 2:49:30]: Oh that's twenty four thousand dollars. Twenty four thousand dollars for ecologic to do the stormwater. [2:49:30, 2:49:32]: fee assessment and revision. [2:49:33, 2:49:34]: Mm-hmm. [2:49:35, 2:49:42]: Sir. Last page before questions. The last way it talks about stormwater management. [2:49:42, 2:49:50]: So move. Second. All right. We have another motion by Councilman Alexander with the second by Pro Tem Ford. [2:49:51, 2:49:54]: And um is there any discussion on that? [2:49:55, 2:50:15]: Yes, I I I think what we want to make clear here is what Mr Aaron said earlier so the public would know is that we have some of the lowest stormwater fees uh in the state. So we are trying to stay competitive and make the program be fair, but you know, developers should pay [2:50:15, 2:50:21]: their fair share of what's coming to the community, so we need to make sure that we're charging appropriately. [2:50:22, 2:50:23]: Okay. [2:50:25, 2:50:27]: This ecological planning um [2:50:27, 2:50:28]: Did it the first time. [2:50:29, 2:50:32]: They said that uh of course our fees were really low and [2:50:33, 2:50:39]: Um they needed to study the impervious was the last time it was done is two thousand and four. [2:50:39, 2:50:43]: Well that's when they assessed. Yeah, two thousand and four it was initially done. [2:50:43, 2:50:50]: And and um we're about half we're about half what Henry County, I think McDonough. [2:50:52, 2:51:03]: Right. So we'll we're way up below our our neighbors. Well thank you. [2:51:05, 2:51:06]: Okay. [2:51:06, 2:51:16]: Um earlier Dusty you were talking about your well I believe in that's near the Reese Creek Trail that's that's on land owned by Fayette County, is that correct? [2:51:16, 2:51:17]: Yes. [2:51:18, 2:51:38]: Do we have some type of agreement with them, a written agreement to d uh do business with them on this or we just verbally talk to them about things? We've met with'em, we've had two meetings, so we're in the process of drafting something that will allow us to go in and test those wells and see if there would be viable sources to add to the city's water supply. And we've also there's a geologist [2:51:38, 2:51:51]: that the city has worked with in the past for locating additional sources. Am I I'm assuming that Mr Williams is involved with you in th with this? We're we're not to that stage yet. They're gonna draft something and when they do then we'll give it to Mr Williams for his review. [2:51:52, 2:51:52]: But [2:51:52, 2:52:04]: The ball is in their court, it's on their property, they own it. So we're just waiting to get the document from them. [2:52:05, 2:52:25]: Yeah, we we've had to go back and forth with the Corps. Like I said, Fed County had to buy some some property to mitigate some wetland issues when they built their reservoir. So it just happens to be in Henry County. And so there are some steps you have to go through with the Corps of Engineers to get permission to do certain things. We worked through that and so now we've we've got things [2:52:25, 2:52:45]: One of the thing about one of the thing about the dog part, if you don't mind, uh we our present doll part has a lot of shade. He does have a lot of shade in that aspect. So I mean if we work and get everything else done, it should work out to be a fantastic thing. Okay? We'll we'll take care of it. Okay, I know you will. Thank you. [2:52:45, 2:52:47]: What you I'm sort of. [2:52:48, 2:52:53]: We've done all this stuff we needed to do with the Corps of Engineers. That's been done. [2:52:53, 2:53:06]: I'm talking that's been done and the problem has been is that we haven't aggressively moved toward what we need to do with those whales. This has been talked about the stuff with the Corps of Engineers has been done over a year. [2:53:06, 2:53:07]: At least [2:53:08, 2:53:25]: Well, we just had a conversation with the Corps of Engineers and they outlined to us I guess the person might have changed that y'all were dealing with it's a new person that we're talking with. And there's certain guidelines that they're requiring us to follow it and and Fayette County don't want to get in trouble with the Corps of Engineers so [2:53:26, 2:53:32]: They're the ones that are calling the shot saying, Well, you need to do this, this and that before we'll agree to it because it's their property. [2:53:33, 2:53:34]: Yeah, I think that vote. [2:53:35, 2:53:55]: I thought everything was already lined up which we was told because when we went through the process of retaining the Corps of Engineer, we was told that everything was already through and all they had to do is like you said, test the wells and see which one if we could use one or or both of them. They've changed directors over there, he's the new direct over the water system. He wants everything assessed. [2:53:55, 2:54:15]: certain way. And his board is not gonna approve it if he's he's and he's he's let us know that on several occasions. So so you understand what we're talking about here. Fed County does own this and they purchased it for mitigation credits. So losing this particular property or acting in [2:54:14, 2:54:34]: inappropriately could affect development inside of their county. So when they purchased this credit that allowed them to do a particular project that they were working on. That's why it's outside their boundaries because this is what they require. So for us to understand they're gonna do their due diligence and they're gonna take their time [2:54:34, 2:54:44]: time to make sure because if they don't then they could suffer um you know repercussions behind not following the process of mitigation. [2:54:44, 2:54:46]: Okay, any other comments? [2:54:47, 2:54:48]: Mayor Neal. [2:54:48, 2:54:55]: Yes. We have a vote for the pond company, but I don't have a vote for the ecological planning group. [2:54:55, 2:55:02]: Okay we didn't vote. We didn't vote. We did we had the motion but we didn't vote. That was they've been discussing for thirty minutes. [2:55:02, 2:55:10]: Okay. We've been discussing so long we forgot what we were doing. Okay, at this time uh we're ready for our vote. All in favor? [2:55:10, 2:55:12]: This is for the uh [2:55:12, 2:55:20]: I need a motion and a second. We need a motion and a second. Somebody just needs to make the motion and a second. [2:55:20, 2:55:21]: Exactly. [2:55:22, 2:55:37]: Oh we already did that. But we already did. You did for the pawn company, but not for the same two people. The same two people made the motion both times in the second. Okay. All in favor? [2:55:39, 2:55:40]: Okay. It's [2:55:41, 2:55:45]: Go forth and go to work. Looks like you got approval. Thank you. [2:55:45, 2:55:55]: Mayor Neal, one more thing. Um I have been presented by uh our Main Street manager, Kira Brax. There is a project scheduled for the branding. [2:55:56, 2:55:57]: That you wanted me to just do. [2:56:01, 2:56:02]: Thank you. [2:56:10, 2:56:15]: Good, this is good. Keep on time, yeah. [2:56:17, 2:56:18]: Okay. [2:56:20, 2:56:26]: We uh have finished are we all finished on the splast. You still got more. [2:56:26, 2:56:38]: This is a little unusual because usually we do it at the quarterly and so I went all the way through uh this week simply because we had some a lot of movement on this cloth. [2:56:38, 2:56:40]: Um they [2:56:40, 2:56:44]: AMI water meters, we just got a invoice for um [2:56:44, 2:56:48]: Six hundred and something thousand dollars, so they're ready to move. [2:56:48, 2:56:50]: And I wanted the numbers to show [2:56:50, 2:56:52]: Up uh here. [2:56:53, 2:56:55]: So you have the latest numbers. [2:56:55, 2:56:56]: Um [2:56:57, 2:57:01]: You can see the summary is actually a schedule that goes in the audit. Um [2:57:02, 2:57:02]: That is [2:57:03, 2:57:05]: uh the schedule of expenditures. [2:57:06, 2:57:09]: And you'll see the first section is sploss three. [2:57:10, 2:57:11]: Um [2:57:12, 2:57:18]: I I wasn't part of the projections so I don't really know where they came from, but they were way overstated and [2:57:19, 2:57:25]: We only collected um eighteen million dollars. I'm sorry. Do you have that as a handout? [2:57:25, 2:57:31]: I know previously we d we were talking about getting monitors, but I I can't see that. [2:57:31, 2:57:37]: And I don't know if my other c colleagues see that. I mean if not, it's little print, if we can have a handout. [2:57:38, 2:57:41]: Um I can provide that tomorrow or tonight. [2:57:41, 2:57:42]: Um [2:57:42, 2:57:48]: I mean I didn't really realize that I was gonna have to do the complete financial update because it's not [2:57:48, 2:57:51]: I mean like I said, I brought it th all the way through today so y'all would [2:57:52, 2:57:58]: um be able to see it. But what I d did want to say is we spent um [2:57:59, 2:58:03]: It's gonna be close to a million dollars on the supplement for [2:58:03, 2:58:05]: The pa the road paving [2:58:05, 2:58:07]: That was subsidized with L Ming. [2:58:08, 2:58:11]: Um we still have to do the striping on those streets. [2:58:12, 2:58:17]: And I did want to mention the uh water meters that that's [2:58:17, 2:58:20]: Almost a million dollars what we have invoices for. [2:58:20, 2:58:22]: We also um [2:58:24, 2:58:29]: Got some invoices for uh you know, the Willow Springs. [2:58:30, 2:58:30]: And what is it? [2:58:31, 2:58:36]: And um South Winds. South winds. Those punk stations. So we uh finished [2:58:37, 2:58:42]: the soul which was the first part of it. Now we're moving uh forward with the all south. [2:58:43, 2:58:53]: So the invoices are coming in, but I'll just um give you these tomorrow but I'll tell you quick bullets that so far um [2:58:53, 2:58:55]: On these last three [2:58:58, 2:59:05]: We have collected uh eighteen million dollars, eighteen million three hundred and thirty three thousand thirty two. [2:59:06, 2:59:06]: That's the [2:59:07, 2:59:08]: Cumulative uh [2:59:08, 2:59:12]: revenues which of course we're not receiving any more of those. [2:59:12, 2:59:14]: That's it that's sunseted. [2:59:14, 2:59:17]: And we also had um [2:59:19, 2:59:20]: We've spent [2:59:22, 2:59:25]: fifteen million seventy six thousand [2:59:25, 2:59:28]: And the categories that we still have money left to go in [2:59:29, 2:59:31]: We have three million dollars left there. [2:59:31, 2:59:34]: We have the GIS update of the water sewer. [2:59:35, 2:59:37]: And that's some of the stuff he po he pointed on. [2:59:38, 2:59:38]: The [2:59:39, 2:59:39]: The [2:59:40, 2:59:43]: approval that you gave him tonight to move forward with the headworks. [2:59:44, 2:59:47]: That is at eight hundred and eighty seven thousand, so [2:59:47, 2:59:50]: Um this will really help him [2:59:50, 2:59:53]: move on the projects that he's been waiting on. [2:59:54, 2:59:55]: Um [2:59:56, 3:00:00]: So we ha in SLOS three we have three million dollars. [3:00:01, 3:00:03]: That pretty much has been [3:00:03, 3:00:05]: uh, you know, earmark or whatever. [3:00:05, 3:00:08]: We moved last year some money to repair [3:00:09, 3:00:17]: Uh Merle Manders, it's in uh needs kitchen equipment. Um sound. What is it? The sound. [3:00:18, 3:00:21]: Sound, yes. Um what else? [3:00:22, 3:00:24]: Some of them are electrical. [3:00:24, 3:00:30]: So we moved some of the Sploss three money around that was for renovation and it was approved last year to do that. [3:00:31, 3:00:32]: Um [3:00:32, 3:00:34]: And then it's loss four. [3:00:34, 3:00:38]: between the bond money that we got, which was six million dollars [3:00:40, 3:00:45]: So far we have collected fourteen million three hundred and twenty six thousand [3:00:45, 3:00:48]: Uh five hundred and forty five dollars. [3:00:49, 3:00:50]: So we're ready. [3:00:50, 3:00:53]: We're ready to roll out with these projects that he's [3:00:53, 3:00:56]: That that's why hi it's important for him to be able to pass [3:00:57, 3:00:58]: these task orders so we can [3:00:59, 3:01:02]: you know, start moving on these projects that were [3:01:02, 3:01:06]: uh passed on the referendum for the spLOS projects. [3:01:06, 3:01:12]: Um this will help him and so you know on the parks and recreation [3:01:12, 3:01:13]: Um [3:01:14, 3:01:18]: for new park equipment because we were able to leverage a C D B G [3:01:19, 3:01:21]: Um for the ADA um [3:01:21, 3:01:22]: Equipment. [3:01:23, 3:01:25]: We have spent [3:01:25, 3:01:31]: We have uh sploss on uh was a million dollars for new park equipment. [3:01:31, 3:01:37]: Which could be used for the trail or whatever, um, as far as the park [3:01:37, 3:01:40]: We did the lights in Gardner. [3:01:40, 3:01:42]: And Clark Park. [3:01:42, 3:01:43]: Um [3:01:44, 3:01:47]: So, you know, we ha if there's projects that need to be done. [3:01:47, 3:01:50]: You know, we're in a position if like I said it [3:01:50, 3:01:51]: You can help him. [3:01:51, 3:01:53]: push the task orders. [3:01:53, 3:01:54]: Forward [3:01:54, 3:01:56]: Then he can just keep rolling. [3:01:57, 3:01:58]: Let me ask you a question, please. [3:01:59, 3:02:07]: Mr. Alexander. In terms of what we're doing in terms of the special needs equipment, even'cause we got the C D B G funds. [3:02:07, 3:02:08]: Yeah. [3:02:08, 3:02:28]: Is it possible that we have the m left over money we could enhance what we're doing with the special needs? Because, you know, I see what McDonough has done. They did something very elaborate and we kind of did something very basic and there's a lot more space for equipment in these two events. [3:02:28, 3:02:35]: at Reeves Creek. I think that was a great addition and um that was part of this. So um [3:02:36, 3:02:38]: So the flight is, you know [3:02:38, 3:02:41]: Other than the projects that he's talked about. [3:02:41, 3:02:42]: And that we have [3:02:42, 3:02:44]: you know, delineated here. [3:02:45, 3:02:47]: We have enough money to do, you know [3:02:48, 3:02:50]: projects that are, you know [3:02:52, 3:03:00]: Dear to y'all sort. Absolutely. Let's move forward. But the only thing I would just make sure is that [3:03:00, 3:03:06]: We do it collaboratively where we know what projects are, you know,'cause [3:03:06, 3:03:08]: Uh if it gets added and we have [3:03:08, 3:03:14]: you know, other things. We we just need to make sure we do it methodically and everybody's involved. [3:03:14, 3:03:20]: And everybody decides that that's the right thing to do. So we we are we're in good shape. [3:03:20, 3:03:28]: One last question if I could. [3:03:28, 3:03:45]: Ask your questions succinctly and let's move on. Okay, absolutely. Uh the Davis Roadside Walk project that you mentioned, we've had the all the required meetings at this point. When can we get an RFP out for that or when can we move forward with it? [3:03:47, 3:03:48]: The [3:03:48, 3:04:08]: Where we are on the Davis Road project, we're in the easement acquisition stage. There are approximately forty easements that we had to acquire. We've only been able to acquire three. We've sent multiple communications and we're trying to get the property owners to sit down [3:04:08, 3:04:09]: And then [3:04:09, 3:04:15]: uh sign over easements. Um part of the difficulty is the value of these easements is so low [3:04:15, 3:04:22]: that we aren't in a position of saying, Oh, we need to come back and consider condemnation or eminent domain to get these so [3:04:23, 3:04:36]: where you know, my recommendation is to to can continue the process of trying to acquire these easements um but within another month or two w we will have to sit down at staff level and and make a decision on [3:04:36, 3:04:45]: how uh fruitful it is to continue down sort of a path where we're just not able to get people to engage with the city. But we've reached out to [3:04:45, 3:04:48]: the residents multiple times uh [3:04:48, 3:04:49]: And so [3:04:49, 3:04:51]: Among the alternatives [3:04:51, 3:05:11]: You know, obviously you could consider not going forward with that. You can consider redesigning the uh easement or the the project so that as much as possible of of the uh sidewalks are inside the the right of way and don't require as much acquisition from the property owners. [3:05:11, 3:05:25]: We have to consider but but we're not really at that stage now. We're still just in the acquisition stage. And once we're at the point where we have the the required uh easements, then we'll go to the uh [3:05:26, 3:05:27]: uh the construction stage. [3:05:28, 3:05:34]: I I think what the attorney is trying to say there have been multiple meetings with the homeowners. [3:05:35, 3:05:36]: And um [3:05:36, 3:05:46]: This is one of those projects. It's just gonna take a little bit of time and a little bit of patience. But if we can be patient where we have to be, we'll eventually get success. [3:05:47, 3:05:50]: Okay. All right. Uh any more supplies? [3:05:51, 3:05:53]: project information updates. [3:05:53, 3:05:54]: Not at the same time. [3:05:55, 3:05:57]: Okay. Anything else y'all have to bring us? [3:06:00, 3:06:02]: Are you going to um [3:06:02, 3:06:05]: Stay with us then and let's move on out of spots. [3:06:05, 3:06:09]: to the uh grass cutting and beautification, those issues. [3:06:09, 3:06:10]: Yes. [3:06:10, 3:06:11]: Okay. [3:06:11, 3:06:31]: Uh if I would. Okay, that's kinda one I'd have brought up too. Last year we em we we went ahead and we I think we added some extra money to the budget. We had the teams out cutting almost every day. And um I don't want to see us take a step backwards in terms of what we're doing and what's [3:06:31, 3:06:51]: right away as I drive down Rock Quarry Road. I've noticed that we haven't cut it as frequently as we were uh in previous years. Uh the area right there at Rock Quarry and North Henry Boulevard where we keep our sign banner, uh those particular areas. I'm not sure, you know, I guess Jeff [3:06:51, 3:06:56]: Greenway was in charge of what we were doing last year. I just want to at least [3:06:56, 3:07:16]: uh duplicate what we were doing last year and maybe even add a little bit more to that if we could because we did put an extra thirty thousand dollars in the budget for uh expressway maintenance but in terms of uh overall maintenance and we've been focusing on economic development [3:07:16, 3:07:36]: is that uh I think what the county does is they have it on a rotating basis that they hit the um the commercial corridors on an ongoing basis. I see we do a lot of work along Tie Street and along the railroad and a lot of that but some of the issues that I'm not seeing us getting [3:07:36, 3:07:56]: Done on a very uh uh basis and and the growing season did come. I know you guys are out there working. I'm not trying to beat up on you. I just want to make sure that you talked about the contractors, maybe you see state workers. Whatever we need to do to support you to to get the grass cutting, because that is something that I what I'm driving. [3:07:56, 3:08:04]: driving down that road that I see and I know specifically like in downtown there are boundary areas where um [3:08:04, 3:08:16]: right where Norfolk Southern is, uh their area. Whether or not we could maintain that or not, I'm not real sure, but whatever we can do uh in that little it just [3:08:17, 3:08:22]: What we can do to do what we did last year and maybe add a little bit more to it. [3:08:22, 3:08:25]: Well well one of the things you got going on downtown is [3:08:25, 3:08:39]: You've got a contractor that comes in, I think twice a year, replenish mulch and things like that. They're scheduled to come out before the Memorial March. But one of the things I I I saw in the email that it needs to be on point. Then we need to increase the frequency. [3:08:39, 3:08:42]: Which that contractor comes in and does the work. [3:08:42, 3:09:02]: Excuse me I wanna interject there. I thought that we had actually moved to a quarterly. I thought we spoken with uh the previous city manager and we were supposed to move to a quarterly refreshing because the half year was not and that's kinda where we look like we're we're looking now. I didn't know whether we needed some more money to do [3:09:02, 3:09:14]: that with or what we needed to do. I'll I'll follow up on that tomorrow. And one of the things with Rock Foreign too is also you got a lot of surveying and things going on on that road, you know, as they prepare to widen and then locate utilities. [3:09:15, 3:09:21]: And one of the things we're not on it as frequent because you don't want to disturb those markets they have on up rock for you. So [3:09:21, 3:09:30]: That's one of the but on the other roads they're out all the time. Uh East Atlanta, they're cutting the edges. North Henry, I see'em out all the time. In fact it was on it today. [3:09:30, 3:09:31]: I think [3:09:31, 3:09:35]: For the staff that they have and the equipment that they have, they do an excellent job. [3:09:35, 3:09:38]: But it all depends on when you go look at it. You know, it's [3:09:39, 3:09:44]: If they're on a two week schedule, then sometimes it it's gonna beat'em before that two weeks get here. [3:09:45, 3:09:46]: There's there's no way around that. [3:09:47, 3:09:49]: You know, just like sometimes your your own yard. [3:09:50, 3:09:53]: Mine's at home. Sometimes I get more rain, it grows faster. [3:09:53, 3:09:58]: You know, I might not cut it every two weeks'cause sometimes but these guys are there every two weeks. [3:09:58, 3:10:07]: And sometimes l even I I ride down something like Walt Stevens. They done been through their picked up paper and somebody decided they want to throw a bag of trash out of their car on Monday. [3:10:07, 3:10:09]: And not schedule to come back till the following Monday. [3:10:10, 3:10:23]: You know, y it it's never gonna be a a hundred percent. There's no way I don't care if we had a million people doing it, it still wouldn't be a hundred percent. But with the staff you have, I'll put Stockbridge up against any city as far as [3:10:23, 3:10:28]: Right away maintenance and things of that nature. Those guys are out there picking up papers. [3:10:28, 3:10:31]: paper daily. You got a bath for pretty much [3:10:32, 3:10:33]: Like eight peaks. [3:10:34, 3:10:35]: better doing that. [3:10:36, 3:10:40]: And and I'll talk with Jeff about his staff is sufficient for what what he's doing. [3:10:41, 3:10:47]: And and like I say, if you're gonna add additional staff, you're talking equipment, I'd rather leverage that with contractors than [3:10:47, 3:10:50]: You might hire somebody then I I gotta buy the equipment. [3:10:50, 3:10:51]: As well. [3:10:51, 3:11:11]: Well that's what I'm I I've seen uh last week they had um some prison crews the county like so I guess they contracted with somebody working along Fairview Road. They were updating the mulch and they were pulling weeds and everything like that. Uh that's the kind of thing. Is there any update on that? [3:11:11, 3:11:22]: I know the mayor was kinda working on that uh as well. Is there any update that's a little bit of a I had a conversation with the mayor on that and one of the things about the prison inmates [3:11:23, 3:11:28]: You know, before I left here, I hate to keep referring to that. We met with one of the wards at one of the local prisons. [3:11:29, 3:11:33]: And the Houston County was complaining about they weren't getting a number of in inmates. [3:11:33, 3:11:38]: But because of the new sentence guideline, a lot of people that normally could go out [3:11:38, 3:11:39]: They can't. [3:11:40, 3:11:41]: And most of the inmates they come. [3:11:42, 3:11:43]: They come to the county. [3:11:43, 3:11:47]: And if you got inmates, you gotta have a guard that you pay for. [3:11:47, 3:11:49]: towards those inmates. [3:11:49, 3:11:53]: You know, on the average I think you spend like thirty thousand dollars a year for a guy to watch. [3:11:54, 3:11:54]: inmates. [3:11:55, 3:12:03]: Then it gotta be certain weather conditions. If it's too hot, then not gonna work. If it's too cold, it's not gonna work. You gotta provide food for it's a whole lot of stuff that goes along with that. [3:12:04, 3:12:08]: You know, it's just not you go to the jail and you get ten inmates and they come out and do a lot of work. [3:12:09, 3:12:19]: There's a whole procedure and process you have to go through to secure those inmates. But nine out of ten times if inmates are gonna be had, they're gonna be working for the county. You're not gonna find too many inmates working. [3:12:19, 3:12:24]: within the city because the county has access to'em. Especially here you don't have [3:12:24, 3:12:27]: your own police department, so you're gonna have to find somebody [3:12:28, 3:12:32]: That's a post office certified the supervisor those inmates. Just [3:12:33, 3:12:34]: We're working on it. [3:12:36, 3:12:40]: Yeah. I just want to chime in. Um we do have a contract. [3:12:41, 3:12:43]: Who is keeping [3:12:44, 3:13:01]: on top of that with the high grove, with the contractors that we have. Because with the flowers, they're beautiful, but you don't have the water, the sprinklers working, any of that, and they're dying. So it to me is like we're paying for something for them to die and then we continue to pay. [3:13:01, 3:13:11]: And then you have to keep maintaining that. Um, and that's just one that I noticed just coming in when I do come into City Hall and I'm like, I don't understand that part. [3:13:11, 3:13:15]: And not only that, now it's prom season [3:13:15, 3:13:18]: Um and we have people visiting our downtown. [3:13:18, 3:13:23]: And I noticed not even just with prom season when we just had our event during Cities Week. [3:13:23, 3:13:38]: when we're having events, how is that maintained to say, Okay, we got an event uh a upcoming event, we need to have this edge, we need to have it groomed because we are gonna have visitors coming into our city. [3:13:38, 3:13:46]: Are you talking about from a staff perspective or vendor perspective? Well, I'm talking for as the upkeep with high grove. [3:13:47, 3:13:48]: With the flowers. [3:13:49, 3:14:01]: Is that staff?'Cause I know the uh my city attorney, I sent him the you know, the emails and I don't know if he gets it out to who whoever he gets it out to to s stay on top of it. So would that be you? [3:14:01, 3:14:20]: Um I haven't seen anything to that but I would prefer to have it. But one of the things you gotta keep in mind is I think up until a month ago there was no outdoor water. You was under that drought restriction. So there was nothing they could do as far as irrigating or water or anything. But it but it's n there now to my understanding. Yeah, it's been about a month since they [3:14:21, 3:14:41]: So have we reached out to them? I mean, is that somet but you you're not aware of it, I guess? I don't know who was managing the contract. I've I've never seen the contract we have. You should have that contract, correct? You should be the person. Or no? Yeah, I I should but I don't have that in my possession but I'll follow up tomorrow and shoot. [3:14:41, 3:14:43]: Please. [3:14:43, 3:14:44]: Please. [3:14:45, 3:14:45]: Thank you. [3:14:45, 3:15:05]: Okay. Any other questions on that issue? Yeah, just one more. And I know you're tired already. But in terms of you we just implemented the Camellia Garden and I want to ask you about this question. The Camellia Garden in the um in the municipal park. Is it possible to extend [3:15:05, 3:15:18]: that down in in the area across from where in front of Stockbridge Elementary to to cancer to that is no, not this year. Not this year. [3:15:20, 3:15:21]: Okay. [3:15:21, 3:15:25]: Okay. Let's move on. Uh Mr. Alexander has [3:15:25, 3:15:26]: I'm not. [3:15:27, 3:15:33]: gonna take about five minutes on this issue, so talk fast. This is about Boys and Girls Club. [3:15:34, 3:15:44]: Yeah, I'll just I'll I'll try to cut this one short real quick. But we've had uh it as a council we've engaged the Boys and Girls Club of Metro Atlanta [3:15:45, 3:15:50]: uh to attempt to bring a youth facility to the city of Stockbridge. [3:15:50, 3:16:01]: Uh the we had a meeting, um a conference call. Uh Mayor Pro Tem participated in that. The Mayor uh participated in that. Um w w [3:16:01, 3:16:21]: I'm sorry. It was was it the mayor, it was Councilwoman Robinson that participated in it. I thought so. I I just want to make sure that my timing was right. We talked with CEO Missy Dugan and the Boys and Girls Club. They were very excited with us uh because they said they were no longer they were not partnering with anybody at this time except [3:16:21, 3:16:25]: And they gave us guidelines. [3:16:25, 3:16:45]: uh in order to uh have those steps uh completed that we would need in order to bring a facility to the city of Stockbridge. At that time we did not have uh uh Miss Moore or community sir development director in place. Now with Miss Moore in place as the community [3:16:45, 3:17:05]: Community Development Director, if this council so desired, uh Miss Moore could actually be in charge of uh implementing and completing the guide and the steps that we would need in order to do so. I think in brief conversations with Moore, Miss Moore, she recommended um or [3:17:05, 3:17:25]: discussed possibly as one of the alternatives, the city actually building the facility, owning the facility as we would, and then actually just have the Boys and Girls Club of Metro Atlanta come in and actually run the programs for us. Because you know it's kind of like their slogan says between three [3:17:25, 3:17:45]: and seven are more are the most dangerous times in children's lives and we just completely lack those services in the city of Stockbridge. As someone who had personal knowledge of that, uh my uh my wife who I'm widowed from uh worked for them for twenty years. I saw it up close [3:17:45, 3:18:05]: at the Warren Holyfield Boys and Girls Club and I saw the impact that their people had on citizens down in Byrne Street in the Grand Park area where they impacted citizens' lives and the kids' lives in that community because we can run a truck try to run the program ourselves. [3:18:05, 3:18:25]: Or hire somebody else to do it, but nobody can quite do it like the Boys and Girls Club of Metro Atlanta. And as we sit down and we work on the SPLOSS projects, and that's kind of why I included that tonight, I would like for it to be a priority if it's the will of this council for us to do everything that we can [3:18:25, 3:18:30]: Yeah, including using professional staff in order to bring that boys and girls club [3:18:30, 3:18:50]: uh here to the city of Stockbridge. Ms. Treasurer just outlined us we're doing well in terms of funding, in terms of uh building that youth facility. I know we've had discussions about what we're gonna do with the multiplex facility. All of those have to be factored in. But the one th common thing is this [3:18:50, 3:18:58]: This council has to make some decisions. We have to decide to put our youth first and move forward. [3:18:59, 3:19:02]: Thank you for those comments. Any other comments? [3:19:02, 3:19:22]: on that issue. Yes, Mr. Yeah, I would think that uh what we would need to do is sit down uh provided that uh it's the will of the council, sit down with uh with Miss Moore and and lay out some uh information and and have her do some lay work on this with all the many duties that she has, provided that uh we have a consensus on that. But I think it'd be a good idea to start there. [3:19:22, 3:19:37]: as you mentioned earlier. And I was on that conference call a little while ago but uh but it's uh it's a good idea, something that we can uh definitely look into, I would think. Thank you. I just wanna say something real quick. Uh Mr. [3:19:39, 3:19:47]: Yes. Um Mayor, I asked our um intern to give you a copy of the pamphlet. Okay. So I just want to make sure you have it. [3:19:47, 3:19:48]: I read it this afternoon. [3:19:49, 3:19:52]: All right, Mr. Blount. [3:19:53, 3:19:58]: We are putting our youth first. Uh when I see Miss uh Councilwoman Robertson work with the high schools [3:19:59, 3:20:02]: When I see councilman uh Pro Tem Ford work with the high schools. [3:20:03, 3:20:06]: I'm working with the elementary schools here, Smith Barnes, uh [3:20:07, 3:20:11]: I just went over to uh Red Oak and I'm working with Startbridge Elementary School. So we are [3:20:12, 3:20:32]: working with our youth. We are getting involved. We are working closely with our youth right now. What do you do when you don't have a facility? See I don't ever want us to get in that mindset that you don't feed the homeless if you're not in church. Feed the homeless even if you're not in church. That means if you don't have a building, still do the work. And I thank you all for the work that you all are doing out there. [3:20:32, 3:20:50]: And I see you out there on the ground running and that's what we all are. We're called to serve. And so we are serving our youth. We need a facility and I believe we're gonna get a facility. But this council th there are members on this council that are on the ground running, and I think you are because people are out there saying, Thank you. [3:20:52, 3:20:58]: Okay. Um we will end that number seventeen, Stop Rich Boys and Girls Club. [3:20:58, 3:21:04]: And at this time if we have any new comments that we haven't already said tonight. [3:21:04, 3:21:08]: from our council members. We'll start with Mr. Alexander and [3:21:08, 3:21:11]: You have some speak and if you don't we'll move on. [3:21:12, 3:21:25]: I'd just like to thank everybody for participating and um again availing themselves of the process and know that we work um every single day in order to uh make Stockbridge better together. [3:21:28, 3:21:30]: I just want to say we're tasked to serve as citizens. [3:21:31, 3:21:34]: And that's what we're here to do, serve the citizens. [3:21:35, 3:21:55]: Yes, uh happy mother's day mothers. Okay, it's next Sunday, a week from Sunday anyway. Saving Mother's Day to you. And uh do something special for your mother if she's w is still with ya. And of course she's not, just honor her and and uh in a special way. And uh continue to keep the faith and keep engaged with us as we continue to [3:21:55, 3:22:00]: look and move the city forward. God bless you all. Thank you. Mr. Robinson. Yes Mayor. [3:22:00, 3:22:20]: Just want to say thank you to our citizens who are very patient, waited. Um there was a lot of progress made tonight. Um our staff did an excellent job bringing information so that way we can continue to move the city forward. We have to have the information. And also I missed our last work session because I had a planned vacation. [3:22:20, 3:22:40]: Um that I um explained to my colleagues in latter part of twenty sixteen that I would be out. But um it's just good to be back to know that we're still doing a lot of productive things for the city. So again to the staff, thank you so much for your patience, a lot of good information tonight. Um and I really [3:22:40, 3:22:45]: And to our attorney [3:22:45, 3:23:01]: I really appreciate you. Um just giving up your time, um, your knowledge for our youth. I mean, I I n know you have children and I really do appreciate it. Um, the blessings will come because you're just just a willing vessel and I really do appreciate you. [3:23:03, 3:23:06]: Okay. At this time um [3:23:06, 3:23:12]: I'm gonna call to your attention some um upcoming meetings uh that are uh happening. [3:23:13, 3:23:14]: And um [3:23:15, 3:23:17]: meeting we'll be having a meeting at City Hall. [3:23:17, 3:23:19]: Unless otherwise [3:23:19, 3:23:23]: uh about all city business will be held here. [3:23:23, 3:23:30]: Memorial March is coming up on Monday, May twenty ninth. If you know any veterans [3:23:30, 3:23:33]: That you want to recommend that they participate in this? [3:23:34, 3:23:40]: Oh, let me just ask a question of staff. Who's in charge of the Memorial March? [3:23:41, 3:23:53]: C C okay. If if anyone out in the viewing audience um has anyone that they would like to get engaged to as a veteran, please have them call the city hall. [3:23:54, 3:23:56]: And we'll put them in touch with the right person. [3:23:57, 3:23:57]: Um [3:23:57, 3:24:01]: That will be um on May twenty ninth, so [3:24:01, 3:24:05]: Get your red, white and blue ready and let's be ready for the march. [3:24:06, 3:24:13]: Also uh our council work session that will be coming up on May thirtieth. Actually that's uh [3:24:14, 3:24:15]: Day of that one. [3:24:15, 3:24:22]: and then um some community meetings, a non profit social mixer. Um [3:24:23, 3:24:26]: that is hosted by councilwoman Gantt. [3:24:26, 3:24:29]: And that date has yet to be determined. [3:24:29, 3:24:41]: And also one of the old and uh treasured uh celebrations in Stockbridge is the carrying the Hambrick Day over behind the food depot area and that's always a lot of fun. [3:24:42, 3:24:42]: Um [3:24:43, 3:24:47]: I I need to ask our uh attorney at this time if we have uh executive [3:24:48, 3:24:58]: session items. Uh yes, ma'am, a brief uh item to cover litigation, personnel and real estate, so a motion to go into executive session for those items would be in order. [3:24:59, 3:25:07]: Okay, do I hear a motion? Mayor Okay. I apologize. Can I add one more announcement? Okay, sure. And then we'll come back to the motion. I'll apologize. Okay. [3:25:07, 3:25:11]: I just wanna thank everyone. We had a awesome cities week. [3:25:11, 3:25:31]: Um staff did a awesome job. So we had an awesome Cities Week for twenty seventeen and I want to thank our clerk. Um she did an outstanding job. Um she wore a lot of hats, she made it happen. Also our Main Street did an awesome job, so I just wanna thank everyone, even the staff that took part in that. Um [3:25:31, 3:25:35]: Thank you all so much for coming together as a team to make it happen for our city. [3:25:36, 3:25:40]: Okay, the stam I'll entertain a motion to go into executive [3:25:41, 3:25:42]: Executive session. [3:25:42, 3:25:46]: for uh litigation personnel and real estate. [3:25:46, 3:25:47]: So move. [3:25:48, 3:25:55]: But okay, I have a motion by Pro Tem Ford and a second by Councilman Councilwoman Robinson. [3:25:57, 3:26:02]: Any discussion? Okay. Um all in favor? [3:26:03, 3:26:05]: Okay, sounds good. [3:26:16, 3:26:17]: I'm sure let me have that. [3:26:18, 3:26:22]: No, no. [3:26:24, 3:26:27]: We did learn a lot, but didn't we? [3:27:05, 3:27:12]: I'm on. Let me replace his. We have some inside too. [3:27:15, 3:27:15]: Yeah. [3:27:30, 3:27:47]: [12468.6, 12488.6]: Oh [3:28:08, 3:28:25]: [12515.0, 12525.0]: [3:28:47, 3:28:55]: So [3:29:00, 3:29:10]: [12555.0, 12569.3]: [3:30:00, 3:30:12]: [12614.7, 12632.3]: I'm not gonna do that. I was actually not here while we're doing it. [3:30:33, 3:30:40]: Oh yeah, I don't know what I'm doing. [3:30:42, 3:30:51]: [12652.6, 12659.0]: Um [3:31:00, 3:31:03]: But I don't know. [3:31:05, 3:31:06]: [12670.9, 12680.0]: Yeah, [3:31:35, 3:31:40]: Okay. [3:31:45, 3:32:02]: [12731.3, 12736.5]: Oh I think. [3:32:41, 3:32:44]: Yeah. [3:32:45, 3:32:48]: Oh and um now [3:32:51, 3:32:53]: [12778.2, 12781.5]: Yeah, yeah. [3:33:07, 3:33:08]: I don't know. [3:33:25, 3:33:26]: Uh yeah. [3:33:27, 3:33:30]: [12849.6, 12850.4]: Yeah. [3:34:20, 3:34:25]: All right, I'll see you. [3:34:27, 3:34:29]: Yeah. [3:34:30, 3:34:30]: Uh [3:34:32, 3:34:34]: Oh. [3:36:55, 3:36:57]: Probably [3:36:58, 3:37:00]: [13084.4, 13089.8]: [3:39:09, 3:39:13]: So [4:38:49, 4:38:56]: I'm okay with that. We go whatever we need to do. And then we did we decide that I'm sorry. We we [4:39:00, 4:39:03]: Oh we're about to be recording. We are recording. [4:39:22, 4:39:23]: Yeah, yeah. [4:39:23, 4:39:30]: Okay, we're at the end of our executive session, so I have a motion that we end the executive session. [4:39:30, 4:39:31]: Second. [4:39:32, 4:39:39]: Okay, I hear a motion from uh Miss Robinson and a second from I approach M Ford. Uh is there any discussion? [4:39:41, 4:39:42]: If not [4:39:42, 4:39:43]: All in favour? [4:39:45, 4:39:54]: All right. Now now that we're returning from executive session we need a motion to reconvene the meeting in the chamber. Do I hear a motion? [4:39:54, 4:39:55]: So moved. [4:39:56, 4:39:57]: Do I hear a second? [4:39:57, 4:39:59]: Okay, I have a motion and a second. [4:39:59, 4:40:02]: Um any discussion on that? [4:40:03, 4:40:05]: Okay. All in favor? [4:40:06, 4:40:08]: Okay, we're back in the meeting again. [4:40:09, 4:40:09]: Um [4:40:10, 4:40:14]: Do we have any matters that came out of executive session? [4:40:14, 4:40:16]: that need um [4:40:16, 4:40:17]: a motion. [4:40:18, 4:40:18]: Yes, Mayor. [4:40:19, 4:40:20]: Okay. Mr. Blount. [4:40:21, 4:40:27]: I'd like to make a motion to accept the job description of the GIS planning technician position. [4:40:28, 4:40:28]: Second. [4:40:29, 4:40:31]: [16832.3, 16833.4]: Any discussion? [4:40:35, 4:40:37]: If not, all in favor? [4:40:38, 4:40:39]: Thank you for your vote. [4:40:40, 4:40:42]: At this time um [4:40:42, 4:40:45]: Do I hear a motion that we end the council meeting? [4:40:45, 4:40:46]: So moved. [4:40:46, 4:40:48]: Any uh I need a second? [4:40:48, 4:40:49]: Circle. [4:40:49, 4:40:51]: And any discussion on that? [4:40:52, 4:40:53]: If not, all in favour. [4:40:54, 4:40:54]: Thank you. [4:41:12, 4:41:20]: Uh uh Renee. I went home, I've I'm layered up and I'm still free. [4:41:35, 4:41:35]: Yeah. [4:41:37, 4:41:41]: [16945.0, 16950.0]: Well, can you look into that please maps? [4:42:35, 4:42:43]:

--- title: April 25 2017 Work Session Meeting date: 2017-04-25 source: 2017-04-25_April_25_2017_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:06]: Okay, anything new on here? [0:00:07, 0:00:09]: Okay. [0:00:10, 0:00:14]: Okay. All right. [0:00:15, 0:00:18]: You can ask questions during [0:00:18, 0:00:22]: This is my copy? Yes. Okay. [0:00:23, 0:00:30]: Ladies and gentlemen, it's six o'clock if everyone would take their seat, we'll get ready to begin in just a moment. [0:00:34, 0:00:38]: I should read my email. [0:00:40, 0:00:45]: That's part of the meeting then about the same thing. [0:00:46, 0:00:53]: Oh, that's during public comments. [0:01:04, 0:01:06]: How are you doing? Um, [0:01:28, 0:01:39]: If I could, I'd like to call the meeting of the Stockbridge uh City Council work session to order, please. At this time I would um [0:01:39, 0:01:51]: like to call on I don't believe Dr. Gaddis is here, but uh Pastor Burrell is here from the Baptist Church and I'm gonna call him up if he would to come and give our invitation. [0:01:56, 0:01:57]: Thank you, Lispring. [0:01:59, 0:02:10]: Our Heavenly Father, we thank you for another day. We appreciate the gift of life. Great is the Lord and greatly to be praised for every good and perfect gift that comes from you. And Lord, we're thankful for this city. [0:02:10, 0:02:15]: We're thankful for those who work here and serve here as mayor and council members and [0:02:15, 0:02:17]: employees and first responders and [0:02:17, 0:02:26]: Those who protect and provide and guide and undertake in so many ways we're grateful, Lord, and ask that your grace work in our lives in relationship [0:02:26, 0:02:28]: And deliberation and wisdom. [0:02:28, 0:02:30]: in discernment and in insight. [0:02:30, 0:02:35]: We ask your blessing on this work session, Lord, that everything that's accomplished with [0:02:35, 0:02:38]: be accomplished for the good of this city and the [0:02:38, 0:02:48]: Uh residents, Lord, who live here and those who work here and for the goodness, Lord, of your blessing to us we seek tonight, Lord, that you would give discernment and insight [0:02:48, 0:03:00]: As they make plans and carry out plans that everything would be implemented, Lord, that would cause the enhancement of life to take place in this place. We ask your blessing in Christ's name, Amen. [0:03:00, 0:03:01]: Yeah. [0:03:01, 0:03:04]: And if you would join us for the pledge to the American flag. [0:03:06, 0:03:15]: I think we can supply from the other always. [0:03:24, 0:03:28]: At this time we'll ask our clerk if she will please to call the road. [0:03:29, 0:03:32]: Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilman Blount. [0:03:33, 0:03:33]: Mayor Neal. [0:03:34, 0:03:37]: Present. Mayor Pro Tem Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:03:38, 0:03:47]: President Woman Robinson is not in attendant. She did make note at the previous meeting that she would not be at the meeting today. Let the record reflect she is not an attendant. [0:03:48, 0:03:49]: Mayor Neil, you have a corn. [0:03:53, 0:03:56]: Need a motion at this time to accept the agenda. [0:03:57, 0:04:03]: So move. Mayor. Oh, I'm sorry. Um, I move to amend the agenda. [0:04:03, 0:04:05]: Um let me accept [0:04:06, 0:04:15]: Let's accept it first and then we'll uh take your amendment. Okay. At this time we have um a motion to accept the agenda. Do I hear [0:04:16, 0:04:17]: A second to that. [0:04:18, 0:04:29]: You've already made the motions. Do I hear a no you can't second your own motion. Do I hear a motion to accept and then we'll amend Council um woman Gantt's [0:04:31, 0:04:39]: Okay, the motion failed. We'll go to uh Councilwoman Gantt and ask her to make a m make her amendment motion. [0:04:39, 0:04:50]: Thank you, Mayor. Um I move that we amend the ag agenda to include policy and procedures for projects and to amend ordinance three point three zero. [0:04:51, 0:04:55]: All right. Second. And we have a second. All in favor. [0:04:55, 0:05:00]: Discussing at all? Oh discussion? Anybody want to discuss it? [0:05:00, 0:05:01]: Yeah. [0:05:03, 0:05:18]: I just like to understand um you know, with uh everything that we have going on tonight and the updates, uh east the the approximate time and the uh the projects that we have uh that you um that you [0:05:19, 0:05:21]: Could you mention what the projects are or? [0:05:21, 0:05:41]: Um no, the it's a policy and procedure for the projects. Any projects that we do in the future or the ones that we've already established. It's just ta a brief discussion since this is a work session. It is um for us to either discuss and or vote or just at least discuss if we don't agree to vote tonight. Um [0:05:41, 0:05:49]: on a policies and procedures in the future for f ongoing projects that are taking place. Do we have the resolution for us to to view? [0:05:51, 0:06:02]: No, no resolution, just a a discussion and if we choose to vote for it, we would ask that city our city attorney to go ahead and draft a resolution if that's the case. [0:06:04, 0:06:24]: Any further discussion? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I think what he's I think what he's uh if I understand I think the in reference to the resolution, I think he's he's talking about if we're going to discuss it, d do we have a present resolution at hand to look at if we're discussing that. Okay. [0:06:24, 0:06:40]: have a copy of that as well as a proposed draft um that I've asked to receive a copy of and in regards to the amendment to the agenda for policies and procedures and private projects I do have wording that I've already printed out that I can pass down to you as well. [0:06:42, 0:06:48]: Okay. We've heard a discussion. Do you have those copies? You want to pass them out now? Yes, ma'am. All right. [0:07:00, 0:07:01]: Thank you. [0:07:05, 0:07:06]: Okay. [0:07:12, 0:07:15]: This is I have several sets, so just bear with me. [0:07:19, 0:07:26]: Is it something that uh we can as you do that we can go on and then we can get actually get to it later on in the agenda?'Cause it's one of the last items anyway. [0:07:29, 0:07:30]: All right. [0:07:31, 0:07:37]: Everybody okay with moving forward? Do I hear a second to the councilwoman's motion? [0:07:37, 0:07:39]: Sorry to have a second. [0:07:42, 0:07:43]: Did I hear you say second? [0:07:43, 0:07:50]: Yes, we already have a second. We have a second from Councilman Blount. All in favor to amend the agenda. [0:07:51, 0:07:51]: Okay. [0:07:52, 0:07:54]: All approved. Thank you so much. [0:07:56, 0:08:10]: At this time we're going to review uh have a motion to um on the review of the minutes from uh March thirteenth and March twenty eighth. Do I hear a motion that those be accepted? [0:08:15, 0:08:35]: Oh, you just want t them to know that they're coming. Okay? All right. No need for a motion then at that time. At this time, if we had anyone in the uh audience that wanted to make a public comment, um we'll go to our clerk to find out who that is. Reminding the audience that you'll come to the podium and you will have three minutes. Watch the [0:08:35, 0:08:37]: the clock and you'll be safe. [0:08:39, 0:08:42]: I need to clarify for Mr. Smith. [0:08:43, 0:08:46]: Is there a Mr. Smith in the room? Mr. Bruce Smith. [0:08:46, 0:08:49]: Were your comments in regards to the [0:08:50, 0:08:51]: uh following behind [0:08:52, 0:08:52]: Captain [0:08:53, 0:08:53]: Bright. [0:08:54, 0:08:54]: Or [0:08:55, 0:08:57]: general public safety comments. [0:09:05, 0:09:10]: Okay, so that would be during the town hall portion where he would be able to ask questions following [0:09:10, 0:09:14]: So you'll be able to ask your questions during that time, Mr. Smith. [0:09:14, 0:09:15]: Okay. [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: Yeah, that's it. [0:09:18, 0:09:21]: Okay. Uh Mr. Thomas White. [0:09:23, 0:09:25]: You would come to the podium, please. [0:09:31, 0:09:32]: Oh my god. [0:09:35, 0:09:36]: Um [0:09:37, 0:09:41]: [582.8, 585.0]: [0:09:45, 0:09:48]: Step over to the side and you can face both groups. [0:09:53, 0:09:54]: Testing. [0:09:55, 0:09:56]: It works. [0:09:57, 0:10:05]: So I'm here to talk to you today about the public information officer that I know is on the agenda. Uh this was brought to my attention over the weekend. [0:10:06, 0:10:26]: I question whether it is fiscally responsible for us to invest in a public information officer. Keep in mind that we have citizens in this city that are trying to create their own city right now and one of their m major issues is that we're not making fiscally responsible decisions and using our funds in the correct way. The taxpayer burden [0:10:26, 0:10:28]: [629.0, 636.3]: Clearly people are dissatisfied with it. Why would we increase that by using resources that are already duplic being duplicated? [0:10:36, 0:10:37]: uh by the city [0:10:38, 0:10:53]: in form of the administrative assistant that we have. The police department has their own public information officer. The fire department has their own public information officer. Ninety percent of the stuff that you're going to release as the city will have to do with law enforcement and fire services. So why aren't we going to invest [0:10:53, 0:10:55]: tens of thousands of dollars in a [0:10:56, 0:11:09]: public information officer for the city that only has twenty eight thousand people in it. No other city this size is going to have someone in that position doing the same thing when they already have duplicate services being provided by the police department and the fire services. [0:11:10, 0:11:30]: I also question whether or not a C V A has been conducted. A cost benefit analysis is absolutely necessary to see if the city if it's even feasible for the city to do this. What are going to be the benefits of having this person versus the cost? We have to have done this study. We have to have understood this. I question the uh mayor, the city council, and the city manager not [0:11:30, 0:11:35]: disrespectfully, but asking at the very least that these questions could be answered before we move forward. [0:11:35, 0:11:41]: with any vote tonight. Uh I think at the very least the citizens of Sawbridge [0:11:42, 0:11:43]: require that we [0:11:43, 0:11:48]: Letting them know why we're doing it. Uh, how their money's being spent and why it's being spent. [0:11:49, 0:11:52]: It's something that transparency is very important. [0:11:53, 0:11:56]: And we should achieve that transparency at all costs. So thank you very much. [0:11:57, 0:11:57]: Thank you. [0:12:00, 0:12:05]: Madam Clerk, are there others to present? Yes. Ms. Cecilia Green. [0:12:06, 0:12:07]: Ms. Green? [0:12:19, 0:12:24]: Testing first given unto God who is the head of my life. [0:12:25, 0:12:29]: Two months ago, um, it was brought to our attention that [0:12:30, 0:12:32]: There was another city. [0:12:32, 0:12:35]: uh that was in the process of of coming up. [0:12:36, 0:12:41]: And I gotta tell y'all, this really disturbed me. [0:12:41, 0:12:45]: I've been a part of this great community since two thousand seven. [0:12:46, 0:12:56]: A lot of the reasons why I'm happy to say that I'm a stock with the resident is because this this city has a lot of good things going on. [0:12:56, 0:13:16]: The people here are diverse. The people here are caring. The people here are loving and sharing. We have the best consumer staff ever in the state of Georgia. You guys are very, very professional. You know what you do. [0:13:16, 0:13:28]: You know how to get the job done. I've been in a lot of churches. I even sung at Stockbridge, over here at Stockbridge, First United Methodist Church. [0:13:28, 0:13:34]: This city has it going on and I can't understand why somebody wanna mess this up. [0:13:34, 0:13:39]: You know, old school people, it was always said if it's not broke. [0:13:40, 0:13:49]: Why are we trying to fix this? We are all diverse. We are all people. We are all God's children. And so [0:13:50, 0:13:55]: Whoever came up with this proposal of having uh Eagles running? [0:13:55, 0:14:05]: versus the city of Scott Bridge. It's the most ludicrous thing I ever heard of. It doesn't make sense. We are all one. [0:14:06, 0:14:07]: All of us. [0:14:07, 0:14:11]: Red, yellow, black or white. We're all one people. [0:14:11, 0:14:12]: And so [0:14:13, 0:14:18]: I'm gonna step out on faith and say that I don't think this thing is going to happen. [0:14:18, 0:14:25]: Because there's nothing wrong with the city of Scott Bridge. We are growing and we are striving. [0:14:26, 0:14:32]: We mean something, guys. We are important in so many ways. And so [0:14:33, 0:14:36]: Prophet Paul said it like this. [0:14:36, 0:14:44]: In Romans eight and thirty one, what shall we say to these things? If God before us [0:14:44, 0:14:45]: Who [0:14:47, 0:14:52]: Who can be against us? So I'm gonna encourage City of Stockbridge [0:14:52, 0:14:56]: The main remain strong, remain focused. [0:14:57, 0:15:10]: And let's make continue to make this city the great city that it is because we are somebody and we are important people. And I think and I said this before, united we stand. [0:15:11, 0:15:12]: Devare [0:15:12, 0:15:13]: We fall. [0:15:13, 0:15:14]: God bless you. [0:15:21, 0:15:25]: Thank you. At this time we are going to um [0:15:26, 0:15:27]: Take the opportunity. [0:15:27, 0:15:28]: Do you have something? [0:15:29, 0:15:31]: Oh, we have no further comment. I don't think we do. [0:15:32, 0:15:52]: Um at this time we're going to kind of pause and we're going to go into um an opportunity. We've called it our town hall moment so that we can hear from um some reports that are are important to the citizens. And um we're first going to call up our North Precinct. [0:15:52, 0:15:59]: Precinct Captain Philip Bratton Captain Bratton to come up to give us an update on the police department. [0:16:21, 0:16:34]: First I'd like to say thank you um Mayor Neal and um the members of the council members for giving me the opportunity to stand before you and provide the City of Stockbridge with the update of the stats. These would be the quarterly stats. [0:16:34, 0:16:38]: covering the period of January, February and March. [0:16:38, 0:16:40]: If you look on the um [0:16:41, 0:16:48]: The website for Stockbridge, you'll see the monthly stats for January and February and March. Those stats cover a period of [0:16:48, 0:16:58]: We compare ourselves as far as crime rate here in in Stockbridge based on what we've done the previous years. So for example, for the month of January we reached back three years [0:16:58, 0:17:18]: So it would have been for January of twenty fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen and then seventeen correction, fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen to kind of compare and see how we are as far as a a particular crime to see are we in keeping. However, the are are we keeping in pace or or are we reducing in crime for that particular area during that particular month? [0:17:18, 0:17:22]: So that's how we kinda see whether or not it's a normal or it's out of n out of norm. [0:17:23, 0:17:34]: However, this to tonight we're going to talk about the January, February and March stats for the quarter and we're going to look at the monthly stats and we're going to see where we have moved from January, February, March in each category. [0:17:40, 0:17:46]: I don't know if everybody can see that uh but the the first category we want to talk about is is the uh homicides. [0:17:46, 0:17:53]: And um now homicide, everybody know what a homicide is? It's a murder. Okay. However, we didn't have a murder in here in [0:17:53, 0:17:56]: in the city of spot rig, what we actually had was [0:17:56, 0:17:57]: A um [0:17:58, 0:18:10]: an involuntary manslaughter. And what that entails it was a um uh an infant death, a suspicious death, in which we were called in to investigate and we have made an arrest on that [0:18:10, 0:18:22]: um case and it is before the court so I can't discuss that but it's it happened here in the city of Stockbridge involving an incident. Okay. So that's where you see in the month of March you see one homicide, okay? [0:18:24, 0:18:30]: Uh moving on along down to the rate we didn't have any rates in the months of January, February o or March. [0:18:30, 0:18:39]: And now moving down to uh robberies, we had three robberies in in February and we had three robberies in March for a total of six robberies. [0:18:39, 0:18:42]: in this quarter. I um [0:18:51, 0:18:55]: Okay, when we're talking about those robberies, they mainly occurred um [0:18:56, 0:18:59]: [1139.6, 1140.4]: Um [0:19:01, 0:19:04]: One in the subdivision, actually several in the subdivision. [0:19:04, 0:19:06]: And then one I we actually had one actually [0:19:07, 0:19:08]: To it. [0:19:08, 0:19:18]: c correction. One in Eagles Landing that's the Texas gas station and one in the subdivision on Hudson Bridge. And then we had one on our trail, the actual the M O K trail. [0:19:19, 0:19:27]: Um, we had a individual that was riding his bicycle on the trail and uh got assaulted by uh two males and knocked him off his bicycle and robbed him. [0:19:27, 0:19:29]: I think it was a cell phone and some money. [0:19:29, 0:19:35]: But um there was no gun or anything like that displayed. So there is crime out there uh occurring and um [0:19:36, 0:19:42]: We have put pr bicycle patrols out there on the trail. That's not on a reoccurring basis, as as an as need needed basis. [0:19:43, 0:19:44]: Um [0:19:44, 0:19:48]: Moving along to aggravated assaults, we started out in January with four [0:19:48, 0:19:50]: We reduced it down to two. [0:19:51, 0:19:53]: And everyone knows what an aggravated assault is is when you [0:19:53, 0:19:55]: Uh attempt to um [0:19:55, 0:19:59]: use violence or threat of violence with the use of a weapon to get someone to do widely harm. [0:20:00, 0:20:00]: Um [0:20:01, 0:20:08]: And then we creased back to five in the month of March for a total of eleven for the uh entire uh quarter. [0:20:09, 0:20:12]: Now burglary com burglaries are the next area I want to talk about. [0:20:13, 0:20:18]: Uh commercial burglaries um have been a problem. Uh they're we started out with eight. [0:20:19, 0:20:39]: We're down to six in February and then we went back up to f uh down to five uh in March. But commercial burglars still become a problem for us as as far as that we're having a lot of um commercial burglars on the the Hudson Bridge corridor, along with the North Hunter Boulevard corridor, and then looking at the um State Route one thirty eight uh west. [0:20:39, 0:20:41]: corridor going back into Clayton County. [0:20:42, 0:20:46]: Now what these uh areas have in common is they're kinda like border near what? An interstate. [0:20:46, 0:20:53]: Okay, where easy access in, easy access out, and can and they're happening at inf di different hours of the of the evening. [0:20:55, 0:20:56]: In the morning. Mr. Correction. [0:20:57, 0:20:59]: And then we had burglary, residential burglaries. [0:21:00, 0:21:01]: Uh we started out with ten [0:21:01, 0:21:06]: Uh we increased a little bit by fourteen in February and now we're back down to eight for a total of thirty two. [0:21:06, 0:21:08]: uh residential burglaries. [0:21:08, 0:21:25]: And what we're seeing on a lot of the residential burglaries, a lot of them occurring in department complexes. Uh Eastwood Village is one, Livy apartments I think is another one. Uh a lot of the department apartment complexes do not have um alarm systems, which they could do. They could get that. [0:21:26, 0:21:27]: as a service. [0:21:27, 0:21:34]: But it requires them to pay for it, okay. But uh we're seeing a lot of um method of operation where we're getting um [0:21:35, 0:21:42]: A suspect where he's drilling holes near the um uh dead boat and trying to make entry to the residence that way. [0:21:43, 0:21:47]: And sometime they succeed and sometime they don't because they may be interrupted by [0:21:47, 0:21:50]: A neighbor hearing the noise or or whatever. [0:21:50, 0:21:59]: Um but that would i if if they had an alarm system that would greatly help us as far as our response time. We're finding e these burglaries later on in the morning. [0:21:59, 0:22:03]: when a complaint comes home and found out their house has been burgerized. [0:22:03, 0:22:04]: Um [0:22:05, 0:22:07]: Now the next category is larcenies. [0:22:07, 0:22:27]: And larcenies and theft by takings. Under this category we have a lot of the entering autos that occur and then the theft by takings can be a number of things. Just a pro theft by taking is taking somebody's property from them. It also encompasses the theft by theft of shoplifting, uh theft by receiving stolen property and [0:22:31, 0:22:46]: Theft of services, theft of the s theft by deception, all those things fall up under the um uh the a category of theft by taking. And we started out with fifty two in January, fifty eight in s in February and then back down to forty two. But that one hundred and fifty two numbers not just [0:22:47, 0:22:50]: uh theft by taking of me taking your property [0:22:50, 0:22:55]: Um it's also including entering autos. And w and if you look at the um [0:22:56, 0:22:59]: Most recent I had a copy up here. [0:23:00, 0:23:05]: This news link I provided some best practices um to the public. [0:23:05, 0:23:11]: some of the measures they can take to prevent them from being victims of uh in autos here in the city. [0:23:11, 0:23:28]: Um I ask you to take a look at that and try to see if you can adhere to some of those best practices because whether you know it or not, people are always watching you. Now we also look into the theft by taking category, right? We're seeing an uprising a lot of theft by takings at shopping centers. And what I mean by that we've got [0:23:29, 0:23:32]: People who are shopping and being distracted by [0:23:33, 0:23:42]: Say one person and another person comes up and takes their um cell phone or purse outside of their wallet that's sitting inside their uh shopping cart. [0:23:42, 0:23:53]: We're also seeing some upswing in uh theft by takings at some of the commercial businesses where people are laying down their phones and laying down their purses and uh they're coming up missing. [0:23:54, 0:24:03]: Uh quite interesting is to say, I guess it's I don't know if it's a stated economy that people want to do a lot of stealing and taking the property uh of those small things, but uh we're seeing that occurring. [0:24:04, 0:24:21]: Regarding the entering autos, um they're occurring throughout the residential areas as well as the commercial businesses and the items that are being left in in some of these uh uh uh uh um automobiles. If you just look at what I talk about on that best practices on the uh um [0:24:21, 0:24:28]: the newsletter that we put out right telling you not to do that, you think people will look at that but they're not uh uh attuned to that. [0:24:28, 0:24:37]: And we're getting laptops taken, we're getting phones taken, we're getting checks taken, we're getting purses taken. All those things are being left in plain sight. [0:24:38, 0:24:58]: And to help the police to try to combat some of these these areas, right, we ask that the public look at yourselves and sanitize your cars as best as possible. Don't leave any kind of electronics. If you leave a laptop bag in your car, it's an indication there's a laptop in there. If you leave a purse in your car, it's an indication that there's money in the purse. All those are things [0:24:58, 0:24:59]: That they um [0:24:59, 0:25:05]: the person who doesn't have time to spin at the car they they're looking for those quick items to say there's an easy target. [0:25:06, 0:25:06]: Um [0:25:08, 0:25:25]: Moving on along to the uh stolen vehicles, we had eight in the month of January, nine in the month of February, and five in the month of uh uh March for a total of twenty-two. And again, there also uh cars are being stolen from the the residents as well as some of the commercial businesses. [0:25:26, 0:25:31]: Um, especially the the businesses, commercial businesses that are located near the interstate. [0:25:31, 0:25:34]: All right. Um we're we're seeing an upswing in that as well. [0:25:35, 0:25:53]: Um the next category is forgery. We had fourteen cases in the month of January, nineteen in the month of February and fourteen in the month of March for a total of forty seven. And again, um those could be uh financial transaction c card fraud or [0:25:54, 0:25:59]: Deposit counterfraud, um bad checks being written as well. [0:25:59, 0:26:03]: Right. Or people are writing phony checks and trying to cash them at the bank. [0:26:04, 0:26:20]: In the month of uh January also going down to the next category of drugs and narcotics. We had sixteen cases in January, ten in in February and ten in uh March and th for a total of thirty six. I don't have any data to give you on details on those is other than that. We do have active [0:26:20, 0:26:23]: uh investigations uh um in units that are [0:26:23, 0:26:27]: throughout the county as well as going through Stockbridge. [0:26:27, 0:26:33]: uh doing uh investigation as it pertains to narcotics and drug drug investigations as well as suppressions. [0:26:35, 0:26:43]: Uh and then we have four DUIs in the month of January, four in February and three in in March and for a total of eleven. So uh [0:26:44, 0:26:46]: Calls of services, um [0:26:47, 0:26:53]: appear to be down in the month of March. We started out with one one thousand seven hundred and thirty four and then we reduced it [0:26:54, 0:26:56]: back in uh February and then we went back up in March. [0:26:57, 0:27:13]: January is probably because it was uh doing the time frame but c by the way call for services is you the citizen calling us for services or whatever it may be, whether it be uh cat is up a tree or d or a dog was biting somebody or someone's broken in my house, but um [0:27:14, 0:27:25]: I think in January it was up because of the fact that um it was so close to the holidays and people were making reports. But it kinda teetered off a little bit in February and now went back up in March because we're going toward the [0:27:25, 0:27:29]: the spring time frame and and a lot of people are out and about and [0:27:29, 0:27:34]: a lot of incidents occurring when I talked about the commercial burglaries or the bur residential burglaries of that nature. [0:27:35, 0:27:37]: They're out and about. Um [0:27:38, 0:27:45]: Going back to the commercial burgeries, I will say that looking at t at stockridge as a whole in those corridors I talked about earlier [0:27:45, 0:27:49]: Stockbridge is a target rich environment. If I was a suspect [0:27:50, 0:27:54]: perp trying to rob things. You got a lot of businesses that are close by one another. [0:27:54, 0:28:14]: And what we're seeing in some of the businesses that there are some have alarm systems, some do not, some have cameras and some do not, some don't have anything. Okay? So once the b uh perpetrator figures out which ones don't have what, it becomes easy picking for'em. So we're hoping to try to get the business owners to try to uh improve their posture when it comes to [0:28:14, 0:28:15]: Security. [0:28:16, 0:28:18]: And um that can cut back on some of the um [0:28:19, 0:28:20]: burgers that we're having. [0:28:20, 0:28:25]: The response time is there. I mean we we had uh burger out on uh Hudson Bridge Road [0:28:25, 0:28:29]: We were respond, I think it was one of the uh cleaners. We were there within three minutes. [0:28:29, 0:28:33]: of the b alarm system going off and the alarm company calling us [0:28:33, 0:28:35]: But the perpetrator had already gone. [0:28:36, 0:28:39]: That's just how quickly in and out they're they're they're doing it. [0:28:40, 0:28:51]: Um we had a total of twenty uh two hundred and eighty-five incidents in the month of January, two hundred and ninety-seven in the month of February, and two hundred and fifty-nine in the month of March for the total of eight hundred and forty-one incidents. [0:28:51, 0:29:04]: The total arrest that we made during the month of January was eighty seven and then seventy five in February and seventy six in the month of March for a total of two hundred and thirty-eight people were arrested for for whatever reason in the month of uh in in in in the quarter. [0:29:04, 0:29:15]: Uh citations uh started out of the four hundred and fifty nine citations written in the city, three hundred and twenty eight in February, uh three hundred and sixty nine in March for a total of one thousand one hundred and fifty six citations being written. [0:29:16, 0:29:23]: And warranting citations four hundred and eighty and three hundred and ninety three and then three hundred and twenty three for a total of one thousand nine hundred and um [0:29:24, 0:29:25]: Ninety six. [0:29:26, 0:29:27]: [1767.8, 1776.1]: Accidents in January we had um six and nine accidents and seventy two in February and ninety-seven in March were two and thirty-eight accidents. [0:29:36, 0:29:37]: Um [0:29:37, 0:29:42]: And we had accident fatality we had one fatality that uh that's close to the city of Stockbridge. We had a [0:29:43, 0:29:55]: one on Patrick Henry Parkway and I think it's country club, that long stretch of Patrick Patrick Henry Parkway. We had a car going north and one going south and a car that going north. Um [0:29:55, 0:29:59]: veered over into the southbound lane and get a car head on. So uh [0:30:00, 0:30:05]: We do have actions, serious actions that are happening around here and I think we have one today that that went went that occurred. [0:30:06, 0:30:17]: And this next slide just kinda show you the cy the the citations as it compared to uh twenty fourteen, two thousand fifteen and two thousand sixteen and of course where we're at in two thousand seventeen. [0:30:19, 0:30:25]: We're exceeding the three year average at this point in January. Uh a little low in um [0:30:25, 0:30:27]: Uh February and in um [0:30:27, 0:30:31]: A around about the average in the month of March. So um [0:30:31, 0:30:34]: January four hundred and fifty nine citations. [0:30:35, 0:30:39]: Went down a little bit into February and again I say January is probably doing the time frame right after [0:30:39, 0:30:43]: the Christmas time frame, a lot of people moving on the interstate, a lot of people moving through the city of Stockbridge. [0:30:44, 0:30:50]: And a lot of citations being remiched written to uh combat that traffic and identify the faulty driving behavior. [0:30:51, 0:30:57]: Uh and then we will kind of back up on the s upswing on now uh with three hundred and sixty nine citations here in the month of March. [0:30:59, 0:31:01]: Uh warnings. We have fifty one percent of the [0:31:01, 0:31:07]: Mm majority of the time we have a spot with someone it's mostly it's warnings being written and we have a fifty one percent warnings being written. [0:31:07, 0:31:09]: So to the citizen here is that. [0:31:10, 0:31:13]: Um based on that there, are there any questions from the council? [0:31:15, 0:31:17]: Are there any questions from the Council? [0:31:17, 0:31:18]: Yes. [0:31:19, 0:31:27]: All right, Councilman Alexander. Uh thank you um Captain. Um I think you appreciated uh updating the public. Um [0:31:27, 0:31:42]: There has been some great concern about uh the level of crime in the community uh that we hear and uh want to assure the citizens that this is one of the things that we're doing to kinda update them. But uh, you know, in particular [0:31:42, 0:32:02]: I think that uh the issues that I'd like for you to talk about uh is uh the the there was the statistics that you gave uh on Highway one hundred eight, I guess what was the total number or the total number of robberies in the first first quarter because I can't really see that. I didn't I didn't attribute that [0:32:02, 0:32:07]: [1928.7, 1932.2]: Commercial burgers, period. I didn't know. [0:32:13, 0:32:33]: Uh the thirty two total in the in the quarter, not just just particular month. That's the whole quarter, January, February and March. Right. In particular, I know on Highway one hundred thirty eight there was an article written, I guess the McDonalds was robbed, uh the raceway was robbed, and the ranchero was robbed. So is there [0:32:33, 0:32:41]: something in particular that we can talk about to the citizens um uh about addressing and then the Hudson Bridge, you kinda mentioned that as well. [0:32:41, 0:32:49]: I think uh or there's any correlation between those two things and I hear from citizens talk about gang activity. [0:32:50, 0:32:52]: Is there any correlation between that? [0:32:52, 0:32:56]: We have not been able to determine or see any indication that there may be any gain [0:32:56, 0:32:59]: activity involved with with these particular type of crimes. [0:33:00, 0:33:02]: But what we do see there's an association with the uh [0:33:03, 0:33:05]: uh one hundred eight corridor [0:33:05, 0:33:08]: And also the the Hudson Bridge corridor. [0:33:08, 0:33:21]: It's a common factor is there are near the interstate and there's ac easy access in, easy access out. So that seems to be a one uh correlating factor right now as far as the easy access in and easy access out to these particular locations. [0:33:24, 0:33:44]: Other further questions. Yes, I just have one other question. Uh in terms of um the overall crime, we were looking at the numbers uh from two thousand and seventeen two thousand and seventeen. Uh uh we went on a monthly month basis, but I think maybe a better indicator might be uh what are we looking at on a [0:33:44, 0:34:04]: year to year basis the up down number. So do you have any indication on we're up from twenty sixteen and and and the numbers for that so we can kind of discuss that a little bit. No sir I do not have that. That is not how the stats are put together by statistician. The way we put the stats together here is put together the same way [0:34:04, 0:34:09]: we do throughout the whole county. Um [0:34:10, 0:34:16]: If that's something that we need to in the future, we may can look at that, but the way it's put together and this data is is [0:34:16, 0:34:17]: Collected. [0:34:18, 0:34:38]: We are not also not only am I the Stockbridge precinct, this this area here covers uh within my whole north precinct area of operations. So Stockbridge is only two precinct uh two zones within my area of operations. I have a eighty nine square mile coverage. So when I'm sitting here talking to you about Stockbridge, I [0:34:37, 0:34:49]: I'm specifically talking about Stockbridge. I'm not talking about the other areas that I got the concern to worry about. So when I put my stats together, this is only Stockbridge stats. Period. Yeah. [0:34:49, 0:34:56]: And uh I can put together uh my fact when they w we only got one statistician group that does this and they do [0:34:56, 0:35:01]: Not only did they do mine, they did the north uh they did the county stats. [0:35:01, 0:35:18]: first quarter stats as well. So it's kinda hard for them to go back and do uh s a comparison from twenty sixteen to twenty seventeen at this point in time. And that may be something we could do in the future, but I have to kind of get a advanced notice of what you're looking for, you know, in the in in in in the future. [0:35:18, 0:35:22]: Uh but I I know at the very end of the um [0:35:22, 0:35:26]: year we will have a a annual wrap up [0:35:26, 0:35:41]: And from the previous year wrap up of two thousand sixteen, I should be able to compare two thousand sixteen and two thousand seventeen. We're always gonna be a year behind because we can't predict the future. Everybody see what I'm talking about. Crime a uh as I stood up here and got up here the first time I told you all [0:35:41, 0:35:46]: Uh and when you wanted to give me that first presentation is I tell you crime is everywhere. [0:35:46, 0:35:49]: I don't know because I'm in charge of enforcing those my exact words. [0:35:50, 0:36:10]: So we do the best we can with what we got to be able to readjust our posture. We move around. We've had several operations going on uh to talk about the b residential burglary details. We've had one here just recently, a suppression detail. We had one recently here on the the uh eighteenth of April, in which uh my day watch lieutenant, Lieutenant Crock [0:36:10, 0:36:16]: Her folks um put together a an operations plan and we went out and we [0:36:16, 0:36:25]: Uh check some neighborhoods, check some of the the the trails that lead up back up into the neighborhoods and hope that we can flush some people out if they were back there uh [0:36:25, 0:36:30]: up to no good or if we caught anybody in the neighborhood then maybe they run out onto the trails but [0:36:30, 0:36:43]: We were not successful in capturing anyone at that point in time. However, the mere presence of the police on the trails and in the neighborhoods brought a positive light to the public and we got a lot of accolades for that and we didn't have any residents of Berklee that day. [0:36:43, 0:36:51]: Um I do want to point out as far as the inning autos, uh fifth of on the fifth of April we had uh in auto um [0:36:51, 0:36:58]: call go out in in Olivia apartments and we got over there enough time and we arrested four juveniles. [0:36:58, 0:37:00]: The only problem when you deal with juveniles is what? [0:37:01, 0:37:21]: They've got to have enough points to be taken into uh custody, uh not to touch it, but to be detained. And these particular four juveniles did not have enough to be detained and we had to release them back to their parents. But however, juvenile complaint forms were that were identified, juvenile complaint forms were completed, and their cases will be going before the juvenile court. [0:37:21, 0:37:41]: And then we just had recently today we stopped um a suspicious vehicle in one of the neighborhoods off of uh Banks Road and Carrera. Uh we got into a chase with it and kinda find out it was three guys in that vehicle that we kinda attributed those who were doing some entering autos as well. And we hope to get some feedback uh from that investigation. [0:37:41, 0:37:56]: as some leads as to who other uh may may may be cr com com committing some of the crimes here ending all those in the in the city of Stockbridge. So to kinda leave you any concerns that you may have, we are doing something about the problem. [0:37:56, 0:38:13]: Um I have other operations on the on the plate. I won't discuss those. I won't tell you when they occur because it'll be ludicrous for me to stand before you and tell you tomorrow I'm gonna do this. Right. And some of you guys sitting up in here gonna say, Boom, I ain't gotta go to work tomorrow. Okay? So I don't do that. I don't do that. So rest assured [0:38:14, 0:38:15]: But the people that I got [0:38:16, 0:38:18]: that we are out there day in and day out [0:38:18, 0:38:21]: Stopping cars in the neighborhoods. [0:38:21, 0:38:23]: Checking commercial businesses. [0:38:23, 0:38:29]: But Stockbridge is about thirteen square miles and it's not all in one location, it's here and there. [0:38:29, 0:38:34]: And um we're gonna hit, we're gonna miss, but sometime we do hit. [0:38:34, 0:38:37]: And uh like we did the other day in Levy Apartments. [0:38:37, 0:38:48]: in here today. So uh we can't catch everybody but we do try to do our best. Just one follow up if I could. I'm sorry. I not the I just wanna ask as far as the public is concerned [0:38:49, 0:39:09]: to support you in everything in your efforts. I know you guys are doing a great job out there with what you have. What can we do as a council in terms of to help you, to support you, to advocate for you in terms of funding and whatever that is to support this crime suppression effort? Well it's not just uh [0:39:09, 0:39:13]: North Priest and guess the Henry County Police Department as a whole, okay? Um [0:39:13, 0:39:33]: You know what the public and as far as the the perception that the public has of the police in the past but what's going on in other communities and not in the communities here in the county. But we've had a bad press regarding the uh police, okay, as far as the profession as a whole itself and we're not getting the people into the profession that we need to to be able to do the job that we want to provide. [0:39:33, 0:39:35]: [2376.1, 2385.0]: Um and our county is no different and I'm part of the county. So my numbers are apportioned to me based on uh what I what I have for the county. [0:39:45, 0:40:00]: As far as what you can do as a a a city council is just talk to your counterparts at the county and let them know that you do need the police support and the police service and they do need the numbers and the bodies that they're asking for to be able to go out and execute the plans. [0:40:01, 0:40:07]: When I go out and execute a p uh a operation, I have to plan it in advance while I'm watching [0:40:07, 0:40:08]: Crime occurring. [0:40:09, 0:40:14]: While I'm watching inter and autos occurring, while I'm watching people's homes getting broken into, I have to plan [0:40:14, 0:40:25]: Okay, how am I gonna deter that? I can't do it right at that point in time'cause I got to stop drop and roll and I got to put together who's playing and I gotta put I have to bring people in and I just don't have a [0:40:25, 0:40:44]: I that's probably a misconception that we have a whole platoon of police officers sitting in that building over there. We don't have that. We have to adjust remember I tell you I have to adjust my posture on our day to day basis to baby to make sure that I'm putting people in the right place to to deter crime and make make no bones about it, there is crime occurring in the city of Slotbridge. [0:40:45, 0:40:48]: And we're out there doing our best to uh combat it. [0:40:48, 0:40:58]: But the people is our is our most important resources. I have to have boots on the ground to hold terrain. And I mean by holding terrain I've got ability to put people in cars, people to patrol [0:40:59, 0:41:06]: Uh that what's gonna deter the guy to go somewhere else and and being able to get that recruitment in, being able to uh [0:41:06, 0:41:12]: All that has a a secondary uh reason why we can get people in not only because of the uh [0:41:13, 0:41:14]: The um the um [0:41:15, 0:41:19]: the public media of a impression of us is that um [0:41:19, 0:41:26]: We need funding put just as you said from the council member, recommending funding to the police agencies, right, to be able to [0:41:26, 0:41:29]: staff them at a level that is sufficient. [0:41:29, 0:41:34]: That is flexibil f flexible, that is give us the flexibility to do our operations. [0:41:35, 0:41:40]: do on a twenty four hour basis. Instead of like I say, I have to stop dropping roll and playing, then execute. [0:41:40, 0:41:45]: Uh sometime I like to be able to execute on the fly when I can't do that when I have insufficient um [0:41:46, 0:41:49]: Um well I wouldn't say insufficient numbers, it's just that I don't have [0:41:50, 0:41:53]: availability at that point in time to pull those assets because they're elsewhere [0:41:53, 0:41:55]: on another operation. Okay. [0:41:57, 0:42:08]: Any further questions? Uh for Tim Forward? And I want to commend you and your staff uh in reference to the new outlook of [0:42:08, 0:42:28]: riding those trails. I've gotten some good impact input from citizens where I live in Monarch Village that you're you're out there on our trails and we have roughly almost three miles of trails without the sidewalks alone. So I appreciate the fact that you're out there on bicycles and doing that. It's great stuff. Uh any crime is not good, period. Uh period. And I understand it's it's that we gotta [0:42:28, 0:42:45]: try to combat it and and ki and suppress it as best as possible. But when you look when you talk about the stats here specifically Stockbridge, I believe we're still somewhat lower than our surrounding counties, but yet once again I know the fact any crime is is no good. Can you expand on that please? [0:42:45, 0:42:58]: We are I think comparatives to uh the Cab County, Clayton County and Rockvale a a lower uh crime index rate. I don't know exactly the numbers but uh my I've heard my boss speak upon that uh on many occasions. [0:42:59, 0:43:19]: Well as you say crime is is occurring but we're not used to well, I wouldn't say we're not we're used to it because we're out there trying to combat it. You the citizens are not used to seeing your homes being broken into, your cars being broken into, or someone being shot or g uh or drive by shooting. We see it every day. There's things occurring that the public don't [0:43:19, 0:43:26]: even know about, okay, that we're aware about and we go home and we take that into our hearts and we take that home with us and we come back the next day and try to [0:43:26, 0:43:32]: see how we can combat it and and and fight that uh problem as a whole. But as a whole we live in the city [0:43:33, 0:43:42]: You you are a safe city, don't don't get me wrong,'cause you've got police out here. I like to see more police in the city of Stockbridge because you have grown. [0:43:42, 0:43:51]: You have what about twenty six thousand uh population with uh probably ten thousand population transporting in between the city on a day to day basis. [0:43:52, 0:43:54]: With that comes crime, okay? [0:43:54, 0:43:59]: And that's crime that's commuting in and commuting out because we do have borders [0:43:59, 0:44:02]: of Clayton County, uh DeCab County. [0:44:03, 0:44:07]: We sometimes get spillage over from those uh [0:44:07, 0:44:11]: surrounding counties that somehow get attributed to us. When I say that [0:44:11, 0:44:31]: If they don't commit a crime in Decay County, they're gonna come down to Henry County, do the crime and then move back over to and it's the same thing with Clayton County. They move around. The inning auto details or the or the guys that were hitting the print the PCS uh metro PCS stores here [0:44:31, 0:44:32]: [2672.8, 2675.2]: They hit them in uh I think it was Griffin. [0:44:35, 0:44:39]: Uh Gwinnett and I forget the other location, but they move around. [0:44:40, 0:44:42]: Same thing in the auto detail uh uh [0:44:42, 0:44:43]: It's a profession for them. [0:44:44, 0:44:50]: All I ask that you as a citizen is what you can do is be aware of your surroundings. Don't think that [0:44:51, 0:45:11]: Um no one is not looking at you, watching what you're doing, because I just talked to you about inside the uh grocery stores where people are putting purses in their shopping carts and the people are stealing their purses and stealing their phones. When you go to commercial businesses and you and or you're leaving your phones and you're leaving it laying out, you're leaving your purse and you forget in the company. [0:45:10, 0:45:19]: back and getting it. Just be aware you're surrounded if someone is always watching you and waiting for you to make a mistake. Like not locking your car doors or [0:45:19, 0:45:28]: Uh they're watching to see where you put your purse when you get out of your car. Do you leave it do you take it off your shoulder and put it in your car and then lock your door and go into the business? [0:45:28, 0:45:36]: You just told them you put your purse there and that's where your money is also. So just those best practices what I've talked about in that uh little handout. [0:45:36, 0:45:42]: Is what you can do as a citizen, right, is be more knowledgeable about what you're doing in your surroundings and who's watching who. [0:45:44, 0:45:48]: All right. Uh we have one question by Councilman Blount. [0:45:48, 0:45:51]: Um, real quick, uh Count Bradford, I appreciate you coming. [0:45:52, 0:45:57]: Uh I just don't wanna leave the citizens at a point where we talked about more police officers in the city of Stockbridge. [0:45:58, 0:46:05]: Compared to the counties, there are statistics that shown because I know there's inefficiencies when you look at turnover of officers and um [0:46:05, 0:46:16]: you know, just just the different components that that you all would like to see change. Compared to the county, is that a stat that's kept that that we can assure the citizens the stopbridge that [0:46:17, 0:46:19]: When they call an officer [0:46:20, 0:46:25]: There's no more delay than any other parts of the county. [0:46:25, 0:46:42]: One thing I like about working up here in Stockbridge is the close proximity of the zones. I did a little study a while back when I went to a school and you guys is um because you're so close to one another, we can zone hop pretty easy. It's only that eighty nine square miles up here. When I was a precinct commander in the South Precinct in McDonough [0:46:42, 0:47:02]: I had two hundred and thirty-seven square miles in the South End to deal with. And if we do reduce the numbers, that means we may at sometimes have to double up on zones where I may have a 25 mile square zone. Here I had a 25 mile square zone. That's a total fifty-mile radius that I got to worry about as a zone also try to deal with on a on a on a day-to-day basis. But I don't have that up here because [0:47:02, 0:47:04]: Because you get close proximity so [0:47:05, 0:47:17]: We can zone hot real easy up here because of the network of the road roadways and it's easy to get to. So if you call us, we're gonna come. You just need to tell us where you at, okay? If you're if if you're not uh sure. [0:47:18, 0:47:32]: I think that was one of the misperceptions of the city that there's this urgency because we won't get the response time that any other county the county's getting but w the county th that the citizens have to know that they are paying for police services and their taxes as as of even right now. [0:47:33, 0:47:44]: And so that the response time is the same as the county. It's not the reduction of officers, but they they're getting the service that they're that we're paying for. When we talk about officers, that's something internally, right? When those guys are out on the road [0:47:45, 0:47:48]: We know how to get from point A to point B [0:47:48, 0:48:08]: As fast as we can and the shortest route we need to take. So if you call us, we're gonna come. All right, especially if it's emergency shots getting fired or a burglar in the house. We love to catch those guys in the house on uh uh w but we need eyes and ears. That's the biggest thing that will help us as human intel, your eyes and your ears. [0:48:08, 0:48:11]: reporting to us what you see [0:48:11, 0:48:16]: and don't delay in reporting it. You know, as I said, I think uh I've talked to people in the past [0:48:17, 0:48:22]: they get that gut feeling that something is wrong. I see something don't look right, but I don't know if I should report it. [0:48:22, 0:48:42]: What that's your primordial instinct telling you something ain't right. You need to go ahead and report that because the longer you delay in calling in us, that will affect your response time when a crime is occurring. Okay? So call us when you see it. Don't don't if it ain't nothing, it ain't nothing. We you you like the the council member's saying, you're paying for it, okay? But if you don't call us, we don't know. [0:48:42, 0:48:47]: And if there's no alarm going off, alerting the public that there's a burglary going on in this house, [0:48:47, 0:49:04]: There's nothing telling that um there's nothing that's telling that bad guy he has to leave early. He can stay as long as he wants to. That's why I recommend people have alarm at their home and they get it tied into a alarm monitoring company for a peace for a bit of peace of mind. If you can get your cameras, get you some cameras up as well. [0:49:05, 0:49:05]: Thank you. [0:49:07, 0:49:08]: Are there any other questions? [0:49:08, 0:49:11]: If not, Captain Bratton, we appreciate that report. [0:49:12, 0:49:12]: Thank you. [0:49:15, 0:49:24]: At this time we're going to have our first quarter public works update and that will be presented by our Public Works Director, Deshus Aaron. [0:49:31, 0:49:31]: Oh. [0:49:50, 0:50:03]: Good evening, Madam Mayor and Councillor. We appreciate the uh this opportunity to give you an update on what's going on in public works. As everyone's familiar with, I started working with public works in December of two thousand sixteen. [0:50:03, 0:50:20]: And one of the things we talk about is our as our goal and our vision is to create focus while enacting effective work strategies for a sustainable future because that's what public works is about. To sustain the infrastructure that the C has invested money in is to maintain that infrastructure. [0:50:21, 0:50:22]: Oh [0:50:27, 0:50:43]: And one of the first things I did when I arrived here, we analyzed our staff and one of the things that was surprising to me is that over fifty four percent of our staff has been here for at least ten years. And that speaks very well for the city of Stockbridge. It lets you know that people are happy here working for the city of Stockbridge. [0:50:44, 0:50:54]: And so what we did, we did a self self assessment of the department. We asked ourselves three things. What can we make better use how can we make better use of our resources? [0:50:55, 0:50:58]: What can we do to better leverage our staff resources? [0:50:59, 0:51:02]: And what changes can we implement to increase efficiency? [0:51:02, 0:51:15]: And one of the things we did is we sent out a survey to Mayor and Council and also uh department staff asking them to rate the department in all the different divisions water, wastewater, storm water, cemetery, parks and fleet. [0:51:16, 0:51:28]: And one of the things we got the survey re results back, we received ten back, and the areas that we scored the highest in was public work administration, facility maintenance and water and wastewater treatment. [0:51:28, 0:51:43]: And so one of the things we talk about is why change. Change is important because if you don't change you become stagnant and an organization will lose its competitive edge and it'll fail to meet the needs of its customers, which are the citizens of the city of Stockbridge. [0:51:43, 0:51:47]: And so people want to know how do we implement change? [0:51:47, 0:51:53]: Some people want it to be fast, some people want it to be slow, so that's why we got the the turtle with the rocket on his back. [0:51:53, 0:52:04]: Some of the things gonna be like Buck Rogers, it's at warp speed. Some things gonna be like a turtle. You gotta slow down, you gotta take time to process it and decide, is this for the betterment of what we're doing? [0:52:05, 0:52:15]: But introducing change and transformation has to be done carefully, sensitively and collaboratively. So one of the things we talk about in the department is we work together as a team. [0:52:15, 0:52:20]: I I keep one thing in mind and learn from a Mr Bill Matthews. He was the superintendent [0:52:20, 0:52:23]: of the Jones County School System. His saying was always [0:52:24, 0:52:32]: you'll be surprised at what you can get done if you don't mind who take the credit. So ideas not only come from the top, but it comes from the the team as well. [0:52:32, 0:52:34]: And you gotta be willing to listen. [0:52:34, 0:52:36]: And so how do we get there? [0:52:37, 0:52:45]: Well the first thing we do we analyze, then we design systems to get the results that we're looking for, then we develop the properties and then we implement it. [0:52:46, 0:52:56]: And then we talk about building a foundation. Anybody ever built a house, you know you gotta have a solid foundation. Because if you don't have a solid foundation, whatever you build is not gonna stand. [0:52:56, 0:53:00]: And so then we want to give you an update on what we've been doing in public works. [0:53:01, 0:53:04]: The first thing is administration, what we've been doing from administrative standpoint. [0:53:05, 0:53:08]: The first thing we did was implement our daily attendance report. [0:53:08, 0:53:13]: Mr. Harris gets a daily attendance report. He knows what the staff and levels are in public works. [0:53:13, 0:53:23]: We use that to decide if we need to move people from one organization to another, from one project to another. It's just like a factory. Whenever you go in there, you always want to know. [0:53:23, 0:53:26]: what your staffing level is and what you can accomplish on that day. [0:53:27, 0:53:33]: And we also one of the things I learned when I talked with the employees are that employees have been here a long time. [0:53:33, 0:53:37]: And nobody never identified a career track for those employees. [0:53:37, 0:53:53]: If I go in the military, I start off as a E one or second lieutenant, there's guidelines that tell what I need to do to be a first lieutenant, what I need to do to be a PFC sergeant on up the line. But the city of Stockbridge didn't identify that. And to some people titles mean things. [0:53:53, 0:54:09]: I don't want to come in and be a public works technician the first day you hire me and twenty years later I'm still a public works techn technician. I want to be made a public works technician too or three or four. As my skill sets improve and increase, I want to increase my level of competency with the city. [0:54:11, 0:54:31]: Then the next thing is a computerized work order system. We know we didn't budget for it this year, the current one we have, people are not using it, so it's really no good to us. So there's a system that we talked about. We brought a vendor in to look at. And next year budget time, we're gonna look at implementing that because one of the things we do right now is three or four different people. [0:54:31, 0:54:40]: I get an email from somebody, I need so and so to do this, I need this person to do that, but they don't email the person that actually make it happen. So I gotta turn around and send it to that person. [0:54:40, 0:54:44]: But the main thing about computerized work orders is you build historical data. [0:54:45, 0:54:53]: Because since Mr. Jones lives at 125 Main Street and I got it written somewhere on paper, and then we have another issue at 125 Main Street. [0:54:53, 0:55:04]: Somebody first answer, Well I don't know what happened at one hundred twenty five Main Street. It might have been an issue that was Mr Jones' problem. So now somebody got to go actually physically look through files to try to find that report. [0:55:04, 0:55:10]: But with a computerized work order system, we'll be able to tell you how many times we went out to Mr Jones' house and what the city actually did. [0:55:11, 0:55:13]: Now we want to talk about streets. [0:55:13, 0:55:33]: One of the things we had is our ALMED, that's the local maintenance improvement grants, which is given by DOT for resurfacing streets. This year we resurfaced 17 streets, actually over five miles of streets in the city of Stockbridge. I know all of us are looking at the news lately to see what's going on in Atlanta with roads failing and all the other things that are [0:55:33, 0:55:39]: happening with infrastructure and the government are always talking about all this money need to be invested in infrastructure. [0:55:39, 0:55:44]: And nobody really knows the benefits of a road, a water main, or a sewer main until they fail. [0:55:45, 0:55:49]: You driving on that road every day assuming that it's gonna hold your car. [0:55:49, 0:56:00]: You know, you've seen where cars have been swallowed up by sinkholes. You gotta keep investing in your infrastructure. It's not just about what people see, it's about what they don't see. So those are the things that trip you up. [0:56:01, 0:56:07]: And these is some of the one of the roads that we resurfaced East Atlanta Road, you have a before picture and a after picture. [0:56:08, 0:56:10]: Then we talk about stormwater. [0:56:11, 0:56:27]: And one of the hot issues when I got here was m the Maze Road culvert replacement. We're in the process of replacing that culvert. Hopefully by the middle of May or end of May we'll be finished with that project. One of the things that's been hampering us is seems like every time you do a project and start moving dirt, it rains. [0:56:27, 0:56:43]: And every time it rains it sets you back. So you gotta restart the the compaction and things to make sure that you're getting good compaction before you resurface that road. And now we got some upcoming stormwater projects. We got one in design at Bryant Street and North Lee Street. We got one at Metal Ridge and [0:56:44, 0:56:45]: And um [0:56:45, 0:56:59]: and Davis Road. Then we also got one at Mans Boulevard and North Henry. Then you see the one on Davis Road and Landover Drive. That's a picture when it rained the other day and you see the situation we're dealing with with stormwater impacting that street and that residence. [0:56:59, 0:57:00]: Then in the parks. [0:57:01, 0:57:21]: These are some of the things this is Clark Park. Some of the things we did in the Clark Park. We did stream bank restoration. We installed some sidewalks to help better get better trails through the park. We pressure washed provisions and cleaned the restroom, did some painting and refreshed everything for the spring and summer so that when people do go use our parts they get a warm [0:57:21, 0:57:22]: for the feeling. [0:57:23, 0:57:33]: Then also what we're doing right now is doing some lighting upgrades in Clark Park from Georgia Power. Georgia Power is supposed to start in May of this year. So we're excited about that. It's gonna really [0:57:33, 0:57:39]: give us some additional benefits because just being here in the short period I've been here, a lot of people use Clark Park. [0:57:39, 0:57:56]: They're out there walking, they're out there jogging, they're out there using the equipment out there. So we want our parts to always be invited into the people that use'em. Then the garden apart, we did the same thing. We we did some refreshing, you know, painting the provisions and getting bathrooms and everything ready for the for the summer season. [0:57:57, 0:58:10]: Then we got Memorial Park. Same thing we did our pavilions, the restrooms and and refreshed uh mulch and pine straw and things like that to get ready. So we got some future projects. One of the things we looked at is municipal park. [0:58:11, 0:58:22]: We've got the water fountain over there. And water fountains are focal points. It's where people gather to take pictures. But when it's not functioning, people don't want to be there and it gives the park a negative image. [0:58:23, 0:58:33]: 'Cause a lot of people, you know, they they pay money to listen to sound of water, to help'em relax, to help'em to sleep and things of that nature. So we wanna look at bidding that out to get that [0:58:33, 0:58:45]: redone and also looking at the replica of the Statue of Liberty, it's gonna need some work. So that's a focal area where people go and take pictures and things like that. We wanted to be able to see the readiness. [0:58:45, 0:58:59]: Then we got Reed's Creek Trail. One of the things we heard the uh police talking about is car break ins and things like that. We've heard about at the trailhead that there's been some issues with people going in cars. We were out there today and one of the things you realize is [0:58:59, 0:59:03]: When everybody's on the trail, nobody's using the exercise, cars are just out there. [0:59:03, 0:59:20]: And so one of the things we did, we met with Georgia oh, we're gonna talk about Gartner Park. We got two tennis courts over there that people play on. That needs some attention. And that's one of the projects that we've identified that we'd like to do for the citizens of Stockbridge. [0:59:21, 0:59:28]: And also uh Reeves Creek Trail, we met with Georgia Power. Georgia Power has a camera and system that they've recently gotten involved with, so [0:59:29, 0:59:32]: We're gonna be getting with them. We should have a quote from them tomorrow about installing two [0:59:33, 0:59:35]: cameras at the trailhead at Reed's Creeks Park. [0:59:36, 0:59:40]: Then our water system, one of the first things recognized when I got here is [0:59:41, 0:59:43]: We're doing things the old fashioned way. [0:59:43, 0:59:44]: That's a gas for a nation. [0:59:45, 0:59:46]: Gas chlorine is very dangerous. [0:59:47, 0:59:49]: Not only to the environment, to the [0:59:49, 0:59:51]: also to your water treatment plant operators. [0:59:51, 0:59:54]: And also we were mixing chemicals by hand. You [0:59:54, 0:59:57]: You carry in fifty and a hundred pound bags of chemicals. [0:59:57, 1:00:03]: And that presents workers' comp issues and things like that. You don't want to see employees get hurt lifting. [1:00:03, 1:00:05]: So one of the things we we [1:00:05, 1:00:20]: we're gonna do is also we go on with this minibulk water treatment system. We started that up today, we're in the process of that. But then the other thing that we're really excited about is the AMI metering system. I don't know if a lot of people have heard about smart infrastructure. [1:00:21, 1:00:41]: That's the buzzword now, that's what everybody's going to. Remember when we was kids growing up, I don't know how you it was the jets since they had all these gadgets and toys and everybody was fascinated. But that's what the world is coming to, you know. With the AMI metering system, it'll allow a customer, if I want to see how much my water vehicles gonna be or how much water I'm using. [1:00:41, 1:00:56]: if I want to get a notification that I might have a possible leak, then it that system allows you to receive that information. Now the way that meter reading is done, you don't know you have a leak until the end of the month of when they come out and read that meter. They visited one time, but you have access [1:00:57, 1:01:00]: So you're meeter readers at all times. You're on vacation somewhere. [1:01:00, 1:01:01]: You wanna look back and see. [1:01:02, 1:01:04]: Yep, do you have a possible leak in your house or [1:01:04, 1:01:07]: You left something on, you'll be able to get that information. [1:01:08, 1:01:18]: And this is the mini bulk system I'm talking about. We'll do away with them gas chlorination systems with those cylinders and we'll put in that tank you see on the right, that plastic tank that [1:01:19, 1:01:29]: the chemicals have come pre mixed so we don't have to mix anything. We don't have to have that inhalation worry about people breathing in dust from fluoride and other chemicals. [1:01:30, 1:01:42]: Then we talk about some of our future water system projects. We want to get into the SCADA which allows you to remotely access your facilities and control them and change processes. And also we want to update our water infrastructure maps. [1:01:42, 1:01:46]: Because when you start making improvements and you don't know what you have or where they're at [1:01:47, 1:01:50]: That ends up costing money and change orders and things when you're doing projects. [1:01:51, 1:01:56]: And also we wanna develop a master plan. Where do we go with our water system? [1:01:56, 1:01:59]: Because when you talk about economic development [1:01:59, 1:02:00]: Industry they don't [1:02:01, 1:02:09]: They're not concerned about a lot of things, they're concerned about do you have available water? Do you have available sewer capacity? Because those are the driving forces. [1:02:10, 1:02:11]: Behind [1:02:11, 1:02:19]: uh economic development. The city of Warner Robins is a prime example of that. They've grown by leaps and bounds because of water and wastewater. [1:02:19, 1:02:21]: and having that capacity. [1:02:22, 1:02:42]: Then the other thing, one talk about our wastewater system. Our wastewater system is award winning. They've won numerous awards. We won award last year from the Georgia Association of Water Professionals. It's like six of the last seven years they've received a gold award. They give those awards to s wastewater systems that have not had any violations during the calendar year. [1:02:42, 1:02:45]: and they perform over fifteen hundred tests. [1:02:46, 1:02:50]: And that means out of fifteen hundred tests, you gotta get fifteen hundred of'em right. [1:02:51, 1:03:00]: You know, I don't know about you when I was taking the SAT, you know, you get to the point, I don't I don't know, I might guess, I'm not really sure about that. But you can't guess on these. They gotta be right. [1:03:00, 1:03:01]: They gotta be accurate. [1:03:02, 1:03:22]: And then some of the projects we got coming up in uh wastewater we completed in 2017 is uh old Atlanta Road Force Main project. Uh I don't know if a lot of people are aware, but when sewer lines are in the ground for a long time, it's what's called hydrogen sulfide is in the wastewater, the water that we flush out of our commodes, and it's very corrosive. So we'll [1:03:22, 1:03:24]: period of time is [1:03:24, 1:03:27]: deteriorating that concrete, is deteriorating the pipe. [1:03:27, 1:03:31]: And sooner or later you're gonna have sewer spills and when sewer gets into the environment [1:03:31, 1:03:38]: You risk fines and not only fines but impacting your environment in a negative way. And we always want to be good stewards of the environment. [1:03:39, 1:03:50]: And some of the upcoming projects we got, we're gonna replace and rehab two lip two lift stations, Willow Springs and South Wind. They've been in service for twenty five years. Outlive their useful life. [1:03:50, 1:04:00]: They're just like us, you know, the older we get, the slower we get. We don't get faster, we don't improve. You know, it AIDS takes a toll on us. So we wanna always have our infrastructure. [1:04:00, 1:04:20]: up the down up the standards and up to date. Because like I said, these are not the things the bills and whistles that everybody see, oh, you know, everybody can see a brand new building, a new road, but these are the things that really are the backbone of any city and government. Then other things that we got in the works are we're gonna redesign the head works, is where all the way [1:04:20, 1:04:40]: Water coming to the wastewater treatment plant. That facility is over 25 years and it's outlived its usefulness as well. So that needs to be replaced. We're in the process of designing that improvement. And also, we're redesigning our UB disinfection. This is the final process before we discharge water back. [1:04:40, 1:04:46]: back into the environment. We take brown grey water and five feet later it's gotta be clear, clear enough to see through. [1:04:47, 1:04:52]: And we gotta have disinfection to kill all the bacteria before we release it into the stream. [1:04:54, 1:04:58]: Then we talked about our f future wastewater projects. They're about the same as the water. [1:04:58, 1:05:03]: You know, we gotta have SCADA. We wanna be able to remotely control processes. [1:05:03, 1:05:08]: We also want to have maps and we want to have standards of our our system. [1:05:08, 1:05:09]: them facilities. [1:05:10, 1:05:23]: We're in the process of designing a new public works administrative building and we wanna have something that's kind of in line with what City Hall a a design of that nature. So we're meeting with a uh designer, architect right now and [1:05:24, 1:05:30]: We pretty much settled on the floor plan and the exterior of the building, so now we gotta get all the permits and the documents completed. [1:05:31, 1:05:32]: The end fleet. [1:05:33, 1:05:34]: And get back. [1:05:34, 1:05:36]: uh fleet. We've been able to [1:05:37, 1:05:39]: Fortunate, thankful to council that [1:05:39, 1:05:59]: We've been able to keep our fleet maintained and rotated on a timely basis because what your fleet says a lot about you. It's just like if you called a plumber to your house, he came to your house, his truck was wraggled, he hand painted his name on the side of that truck, he was dripping oil in your driveway. You wouldn't have too much confidence in his abilities. But [1:05:59, 1:06:19]: These vehicles when they're rolling down the street, the city of Stockbridge, they say a lot about the city of Stockbridge. It's your calling card, it's your welcome app. People wanna know, you know, this my city. I wanna take pride in my city. I don't wanna see'em riding around with trucks two or three different colours on them, dents all in'em, you know. They've out use live their useful life. So [1:06:19, 1:06:25]: So we're very appreciative of the mayor and council to see the need to rotate our fleet on a timely basis. [1:06:26, 1:06:37]: And then in summary, it says increasing regulations and costs coupled with diminishing revenues and resources impact our ability to deliver core services, meet customer expectations, and maintain what we already have. [1:06:38, 1:06:49]: And aging, deteriorating, and obsolete infrastructure along with rising expectations of what infrastructure should deliver, challenge our abilities to meet public expectations. The public expects something from us. [1:06:50, 1:06:53]: You pay your fees, you pay other [1:06:53, 1:06:56]: cost items, you wanna get some in return for the city. [1:06:56, 1:07:16]: You want the city to provide the best possible service they can provide to provide to you for your dollar. It's just like if you go into Walmart or you go into any other store, you purchase a service or you purchase an item, you want it to be the best item that you can purchase. And the city and the Department of Public Works, that's our goal every day, is to make one hundred percent [1:07:16, 1:07:36]: of the residents of the city of Stockbridge proud of the services that we deliver. Do we do it a hundred percent of the time? No we don't, because some of the things get in in the way of that. But I can guarantee you at least ninety nine point nine nine nine nine percent of the time we do what's right for the citizens of Stockbridge and for the elected officials. [1:07:36, 1:07:37]: Are there any questions? [1:07:38, 1:07:38]: Yeah, I get one. [1:07:39, 1:07:41]: Uh Councilman Blount. [1:07:42, 1:07:42]: Um [1:07:43, 1:07:51]: I thank you for uh this is one of the best presentations I've seen since I've been in City Hall. Gave me that pleasant feeling you was talking about. Um [1:07:51, 1:07:53]: With the with the um [1:07:54, 1:07:57]: Tennis court because at the tennis court that's on over here [1:07:58, 1:07:59]: At um [1:08:00, 1:08:04]: at the park over here over at the Gardner Park. That's the only public [1:08:05, 1:08:10]: Tennis court we have in the city of Stockbridge, will that be available and ready for uh this summer? [1:08:10, 1:08:30]: Uh well we're in the process of developing a uh RLP sport and we're hopefully we're trying to get through the season. You know, some people play on and it's two different options we're looking at. One is less intrusive than the other, so we just gotta decide which is the best option that we're gonna best provide. [1:08:30, 1:08:44]: available for the city and the users of that tennis court. So as we sit down and start running the numbers and and looking at, you know, playing time and things like that. Because most of the time when you do a work like what's gonna be done then, you wanna do it in in the summertime. [1:08:45, 1:08:52]: Because if you redoing asphalt and things like that, most asphalt plants are not running in the fall in the winter, so you're trying to do that. [1:08:53, 1:08:57]: And the reason I ask that because we have a the one is on banks, that's the county. [1:08:58, 1:08:59]: Mm [1:08:59, 1:09:19]: The county's basically said they're not gonna be redoing the tennis court. So I'm getting quite a few calls on other than private property that there's no tennis court. And in fact there was a guy over on the tennis court today that I assured him that the city is working on that one. [1:09:19, 1:09:29]: And people are trying to use'em either that's like I told uh County, you know, g we either fix'em or or want you close them before somebody injured themselves. [1:09:29, 1:09:41]: One of the things like I said we're we're mindful of as we work on projects, we don't want to have fifty projects that we we work on. We're we're trying to identify the ones that are a priority. [1:09:41, 1:09:58]: Let's get those done that are a priority and then we sit back and reassess the situation and say, Okay, we've done this, this and that. What's next? What's gonna get us most bang for the book? What is best for us to do? Is it best, you know, we've done a tennis court, we've done this and that. [1:09:59, 1:10:00]: To say, okay, well [1:10:01, 1:10:06]: Let's build another road or something. But we just need to sit down and always be mindful as I tell my staff. [1:10:07, 1:10:10]: We you got other things to do besides [1:10:10, 1:10:15]: watching over project and managing projects. We got other things to do, but we don't want to be so stretched out. [1:10:16, 1:10:19]: doing a number of projects that we lose focus [1:10:19, 1:10:21]: on what the real mission is. [1:10:23, 1:10:24]: Any other questions? [1:10:24, 1:10:28]: Councilman Alexander. Let Councilman Ford go first and then I'll come through. [1:10:29, 1:10:46]: Okay, thank you. Appreciate that. This is um in reference to the streets, can you expound on how streets are selected and and to be repaired or repaved, whether it's potholes, cracks, things of that nature. And then when you d repave streets, do you also look at and repave the curves? [1:10:47, 1:10:48]: in on those streets. [1:10:48, 1:10:54]: Well sir, uh when I got here there was a a list, a road assessment that was done I think in two thousand fourteen. [1:10:55, 1:11:01]: So we're operating off that list and industry standards tell you that a list is usually valid for five years. [1:11:01, 1:11:06]: they would recommend after five years that you redo the evaluation of the road. So [1:11:06, 1:11:08]: And it also it takes it takes [1:11:08, 1:11:09]: politics out of it. [1:11:10, 1:11:14]: in that you're really focusing your attention on the roads that that need attention. [1:11:15, 1:11:28]: Because a lot of places I've been has been I've they've let this councilman choose two in this district, you choose two in your district and and then you do one at large. But that's not how you should do it. It should be based on the road itself. [1:11:28, 1:11:48]: doesn't meet current industry standards. If it's not, then you move that higher up the list and just because it's in such and such neighborhood and I think it's a good idea to do that. But when you have an assessment done, it takes politics out of it. And and I think the city has done an excellent job with that assessment and following that assessment. [1:11:48, 1:12:05]: And and my hat's off to Mr. Harris. Like I said, he's been laser focused. One of the things he told me when he got here, if we're in a subdivision or a neighborhood, it's three or four streets in that neighborhood, let's do the whole neighborhood if we can and then we come out of there and don't have to go back. [1:12:05, 1:12:08]: in the same year that we come out of so [1:12:08, 1:12:28]: Okay. And a follow up question different question though, if you can. It's in reference to uh the items, the projects, and maybe I missed this. Uh there projects that you want to get done. Uh uh I should know this though. Uh if they're already planned for twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen, do we have the money uh properly budgeted for that or something that you need to bring to us so we can [1:12:28, 1:12:32]: take out of the reserves or set aside the funding for you to do all these things. [1:12:32, 1:12:37]: No, s well what we're working with is uh the products that have been identified as plots. [1:12:37, 1:12:46]: And we know that when the money comes in it's split between different parties, you know, while we're waiting to accumulate money. And one of the things I my lender for is [1:12:47, 1:12:55]: We don't want to get in a whole bunch of debt borrowing money to do projects when we can accumulate money and have it on hand to do those projects. Pay as we don't kind of. [1:12:55, 1:12:56]: Because [1:12:56, 1:13:00]: When you you pay as you go, it kinda keeps you focused. [1:13:01, 1:13:07]: on what's at hand. Because when you borrow money, you say, I borrow money, I can do fifteen projects, you kinda lose focus. [1:13:08, 1:13:09]: But if you're paying as you go [1:13:09, 1:13:29]: It's just like your own bank account, personal bank account. You might want a new might want a new car, but you really don't need a new car. So you look at your savings account and say, is it worth taking fifteen thousand dollars out to buy me a new car? When my car that I got now just sufficient. So I think pay as you go is is a good idea. [1:13:29, 1:13:30]: [4411.0, 4411.6]: And [1:13:32, 1:13:33]: It works well. [1:13:33, 1:13:42]: There may come a time w when we might have to look at, hey, w let's do a bond or something like that to finance a project that might be immediately needed. [1:13:42, 1:13:49]: But my main thing is the city has built a great reserve and one of the things you should always be mindful of [1:13:49, 1:13:52]: If you had a natural disaster that came through here like all Benny [1:13:52, 1:13:58]: And you gotta spend all your money until FEMA and GEMA start reimbursing you, the city's gotta run. [1:13:58, 1:14:00]: Employees gotta be paid, staff gotta be paid. [1:14:01, 1:14:05]: So you always gotta be mindful to have that reserve. Yeah, it looks good, let's run out and do this, but [1:14:05, 1:14:12]: You gotta be mindful that. If a natural disaster came to the tornado, wiped us out like all been gonna have two within what, two months. [1:14:13, 1:14:15]: And all the money they had to put out. [1:14:15, 1:14:18]: before came and on everybody got involved, so [1:14:18, 1:14:23]: I just think the way we're going right now and how we're focused i is working. [1:14:23, 1:14:36]: And I wouldn't want to get too stretched out where we got all these irons in the fire and we kinda lose focus on some of the projects and we don't get the best project we can get because we were too [1:14:36, 1:14:41]: fix data and all other things and uh appreciate it. Thanks. Mayor. [1:14:42, 1:14:45]: Okay. I believe Councilman Alexander was next. [1:14:46, 1:14:50]: Uh yes, thank you so much. That was a quite a detailed um [1:14:51, 1:15:01]: a report, so I definitely appreciate that. I think this council as a team has been very aggressive. Uh I appreciate the work that you guys are doing. [1:15:01, 1:15:11]: uh with what you have and I was at the Murr Man's Conference Center at the staff uh when uh Mr Harrison's uh farewell and we were talking about the [1:15:11, 1:15:17]: all the work that was being done uh with such a small team. [1:15:17, 1:15:37]: And I I just want to talk about a couple of the things that we uh have endeavored to do. I know last year we set aside uh sum of like forty thousand dollars uh for beautification in the city and to overseed the the the area across [1:15:37, 1:15:57]: cross from City Hall and also we put uh thirty thousand dollars in the budget uh this year upcoming for in in the budget currently for expressway maintenance and right of way maintenance. I think I can probably say we have the best right of ways in the county at this point and I just want to make sure [1:15:57, 1:15:57]: Yeah. [1:15:58, 1:16:18]: uh in terms of what you need and and what you have that you have it and that uh you know your budget is what we need. One of the things I want to see us do is not to dictate to you uh what you need or the numbers but because you know we we're doing okay. We do have some reserve funds and [1:16:18, 1:16:38]: And if we do have a situation where we could uh help you by adding some additional em uh employees to the but to the budget, uh that would be uh you know in our best interest to do so because I think we worked out some intergovernmental agreements with the county to cut different wider ways and it's always been how we want [1:16:38, 1:16:58]: one thirty eight that exit has been with illegal signs and that kind of thing. Um just talk about a little bit with with those two things and that that we're trying to accomplish and the staffing levels that you have right now. Are you okay with that? And I'm I want an honest answer from everybody to come up here because [1:16:58, 1:17:05]: If you don't have it we we we we have uh we have high expectations, so what is it that you need? [1:17:05, 1:17:15]: Well, w one of the things I tell you is everybody a lot of people are under the opinion that the more people you have, the better job you you're gonna get. That that's not necessarily so. [1:17:15, 1:17:19]: And one of the things you gotta look at when you're talking about hiring additional staff [1:17:19, 1:17:21]: This equipment comes with that as well. [1:17:21, 1:17:26]: But each each employee you have, it's gonna cost you about thirty thousand dollars. [1:17:26, 1:17:28]: in salary and benefits. [1:17:28, 1:17:29]: Uh [1:17:29, 1:17:33]: A tr a tractor and a bush hog, that's about fifty thousand dollars. [1:17:33, 1:17:50]: You know, a zero term or that's fifteen thousand dollars. In situations like this, if when you talk about beautification, that's when you leverage contracts and contractors come in and do those things because they're on an on call basis. When you hire employees, they're gonna be here for the long run. [1:17:51, 1:17:56]: You know, if if you if I tell you I need four additional people that cost a hundred and twenty thousand dollars. [1:17:56, 1:17:57]: minimum. [1:17:57, 1:18:07]: I'd rather spend fifty thousand dollars on a contract than have an an agreement with them say on a s on a on call basis or on a rotating schedule you come and maintain [1:18:08, 1:18:22]: exit one hundred thirty eight or this road or whatever street, I think we better leverage our resources in that area. And Mr. Harrison and I we met with some representatives from Clayton County, uh the county manager from Henry County, and one of the things we were talking about [1:18:22, 1:18:27]: was an intergovernmental agreement about exit one thirty eight in that area down there. [1:18:27, 1:18:47]: on one thirty eight, exit two twenty eight I think we were talking about and we were talking about the possibility it might be a contract that the three governments share in. But it you always gotta be mindful when you say more is better. More is not always better. You gotta decide what you want because if I tell you I need four people and they don't have any equipment, they say [1:18:47, 1:18:58]: sitting around, it does us no good. But if I can call a landscaper in that already has the equipment and the resources and say, I need you to cut this exit, what what it's gonna cost me, okay, I'd rather spend [1:18:58, 1:19:02]: When five hundred or a thousand dollars with him or one or two times a year [1:19:02, 1:19:18]: Then I got a person I'm paying thirty thousand dollars a year and I gotta try to find something for'em to do. But right now we're satisfied with the staffing we have. I think they do a they do an excellent job. Mm-hmm. Because I always tell'em, public works is the most visible, invisible profession that you can ever be a part of. [1:19:19, 1:19:29]: People gonna criticize you when they see paper on the road, they think you should have got it. Somebody throw a bag out the s out of the car, they think you should have got it. But one thing you gotta remember, we're working on a schedule. [1:19:30, 1:19:44]: And if we continue to deviate from that schedule, we never get things done. It might be somebody throw a bag out on Walt Stevens. If we're not in that area somebody don't go that way, we don't know. We can't, okay, I'ma get off [1:19:45, 1:20:03]: East Atlanta Road, we edging and cutting over there, cause somebody said somebody threw a bag of trash down on Walt Steven. You know if my schedule allows me and I know about it, then I can break off and and go over there and and pick that up. But if I'm always running health or scales, he calls me, I need to stop and go over here and do this, stop and go, we don't get anything accomplished. [1:20:04, 1:20:10]: You know, believe you mean, every month there's a monthly report that goes to Mr. Harris of what we're doing in public works. [1:20:10, 1:20:17]: It might not get cut like you think it should get cut, but when they rotate and I think schedule that they're on. [1:20:17, 1:20:21]: It's a very good skate. They do an excellent job. [1:20:21, 1:20:41]: And by them having a schedule, it allows sometimes when things come up, I get a call. Hey, can y'all go over and do such and such? Because they're on a schedule. And all of us like to work like that. When you come to work, you like to know what you're gonna do on that day. You don't like some of the worst days I have when I'm ripping and running here and there. I'm really not focused. I'm just trying to put out [1:20:41, 1:20:46]: fires instead of if I'm in my normal routine going about doing business. [1:20:46, 1:20:50]: But we're fine from a staffing level, but if if we want to do anything [1:20:50, 1:20:52]: We should look at contractoral services. [1:20:53, 1:20:54]: I think that's the best way to go. [1:20:54, 1:20:58]: Probably good. I that would definitely be something um [1:20:58, 1:21:18]: that we would want to look at doing because um you know if we could get that get some teams out there to maintain that on a consistent basis that is economic development. That is a welcoming mat uh to our city. I'd just like to follow up that with two things is that, you know, we we got a we got a neighbor next door to us that's uh you know they kinda [1:21:18, 1:21:36]: on point. I give McDonough their credit because they are in terms of us maybe proceed um I've asked this question about adding a street sweeper uh to the regiment as well as far as the details because you can pick up the letter but in terms of you know just [1:21:36, 1:21:41]: trash and stuff along the roadway. Uh what are your thoughts on that? [1:21:41, 1:21:45]: Well, we have a street sweeper right now, is a very A street sweeper. [1:21:46, 1:21:48]: But one of the things is when we had the level two drought [1:21:49, 1:21:55]: We had to stop street sweeping. There were some things that the state said in order to comply with the drought restrictions that you had to [1:21:55, 1:21:57]: stop doing and street sweeping was one of those. [1:21:58, 1:22:02]: And so when they lifted the restrictions about a month ago, we resumed [1:22:02, 1:22:03]: Street sweeping. [1:22:03, 1:22:06]: And a lot of times one of the guys them they come in at three in the morning. [1:22:06, 1:22:09]: Mm. So we are back to [1:22:09, 1:22:11]: sweeping streets and they got to see the [1:22:12, 1:22:32]: in quadrants and they work in specific quadrants every month. They finish that quadrant, then they move to the next quadrant. But street sweeping is a part of our MS4 storm water management program and we're sweeping our streets. But it would be good if we look at the fact that sooner or later we're gonna have to replace that street sweep. Replacing okay. Yes. [1:22:32, 1:22:38]: Okay. Do we have any other questions? I think Councilman Gantt. [1:22:38, 1:22:58]: I just really wanted to thank you and thank Public Works for the job well done. I know that you are fairly new here, but for the time period that you've been here, um I can definitely see a difference and I think the the scheduling and everything has that you've done thus far um is outstanding. [1:22:58, 1:23:11]: And if there's anything that, you know, public works needs from council, if you do see those needs, I just ask that you notify us of us of notify us of those needs if they come about. But [1:23:12, 1:23:15]: I think you guys are doing a phenomenal job and I just want to say thank you. [1:23:15, 1:23:23]: Well we're we're appreciative of the support that we received from mayor and council and and just to let you know it's always good when you've got support. [1:23:23, 1:23:38]: And you know that people are backing you in what you're doing. For those guys, like I said, it's a great group of guys, one of the greatest group of guys that that I've ever been associated with in my career. And they do an excellent job day in, day out. We're very appreciative. [1:23:38, 1:23:41]: I'll stand. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. [1:23:42, 1:23:49]: Uh at this time we're gonna ask our city treasurer, Linda Neighbors, if she'll come forward and give us a first quarter financial update. [1:24:01, 1:24:03]: Hello everyone. [1:24:06, 1:24:07]: Yeah, if I can. [1:24:32, 1:24:43]: Every time I see dishes coming, all I can think is money, money, money. He wants more money, money, money. But we are actually in a great position that we have um [1:24:45, 1:24:53]: been provided with sploss dollars as well as we have been building I don't know what's happening here. Um [1:24:58, 1:25:16]: So anyway, um we have gotten our assets tagged and that will help with our asset replacement schedules that we will be looking at doing with Deshus and the uh tennis courts and that type of thing. We have funding that we can use for that kind of thing. [1:25:17, 1:25:24]: Um so I appreciate how everybody is moving forward and in a concerted effort and I appreciate um [1:25:24, 1:25:27]: Dashus's efforts in that direction to [1:25:28, 1:25:31]: So the first thing I need to do this evening is [1:25:32, 1:25:32]: Um [1:25:33, 1:25:34]: We've been through the audit. [1:25:35, 1:25:36]: Uh for twenty sixteen. [1:25:37, 1:25:39]: Our auditors are Maldon Jenkins. [1:25:39, 1:25:40]: Um [1:25:41, 1:25:48]: So we're trying to close it out now and th this first thing is the close out of the twenty sixteen [1:25:48, 1:25:51]: uh information and by law [1:25:51, 1:25:58]: by state law we have to have a um balanced budget. So this is really housekeeping. Um [1:25:59, 1:26:01]: to close out with a balanced budget. [1:26:01, 1:26:03]: So for um [1:26:03, 1:26:05]: The general fund [1:26:05, 1:26:07]: Yes, um [1:26:08, 1:26:09]: Get this time. [1:26:17, 1:26:35]: Um we had uh several different things that attributed to our uh favorability. First of all, when we first uh recognized the situation with the court services, we did make a budget amendment early on in the year. Um [1:26:36, 1:26:44]: So uh what we are closing to fund balance is two million seven hundred and eighty-two thousand one hundred dollars. [1:26:45, 1:26:47]: That is in the general fund. [1:26:50, 1:26:51]: In the hotel motel. [1:26:51, 1:26:54]: Uh that's uh uh tourism. [1:26:54, 1:26:56]: We are [1:26:56, 1:27:01]: Um going to close the fund balance fifty seven thousand five hundred and eighty eight. [1:27:03, 1:27:07]: The T E is transportation enhancement and that is um [1:27:08, 1:27:10]: some grant services that we have. [1:27:11, 1:27:13]: that we're working on um [1:27:13, 1:27:15]: Yeah. [1:27:15, 1:27:18]: We also had some uh sidewalks there. [1:27:18, 1:27:19]: So the [1:27:20, 1:27:27]: This actually is taking out of the T E fund balance twenty nine thousand two hundred and eighty four dollars. [1:27:28, 1:27:34]: Uh the URA is the urban redevelopment and that is for the debt service on this building. [1:27:35, 1:27:36]: Typically um [1:27:37, 1:27:42]: one year to the next we'll have financing charges related to our bonds and [1:27:42, 1:27:47]: That actually is what that is. You can see it actually is not [1:27:47, 1:27:51]: Anything from fund balance, it's just moving from revenue to expenses. [1:27:53, 1:27:54]: The next one [1:27:54, 1:27:58]: is um as well it just wouldn't all fit on the same one. [1:27:59, 1:28:00]: This is the D D A. [1:28:01, 1:28:06]: Um and we are having to take from fund balance sixty five thousand [1:28:06, 1:28:09]: Six hundred and nine dollars from that fund balance. [1:28:10, 1:28:17]: cemetery, it's the same thing that I said with the URA. We did not have those bank charges this year, so [1:28:17, 1:28:21]: It's no impact of fund balance, but it's just gymnastics. [1:28:22, 1:28:24]: The next is the water and sewer. [1:28:25, 1:28:28]: Uh they they are uh actually lumped together. [1:28:29, 1:28:35]: Um and there we're taking uh six hundred and fifty two thousand three hundred and thirty three dollars. [1:28:35, 1:28:41]: back to fund balance. And um this one we've been building up and um [1:28:42, 1:28:43]: This bond [1:28:44, 1:28:47]: did not share its uh proportionate [1:28:47, 1:28:50]: expenses that general fund had always been [1:28:50, 1:28:55]: um carrying all these expenses. So we're finally trying to get [1:28:55, 1:28:58]: the water sewer fund where they can sustain their own [1:28:58, 1:28:59]: Operation. [1:28:59, 1:29:01]: and allocate the expenses accordingly. [1:29:02, 1:29:03]: Uh hopefully [1:29:03, 1:29:07]: this next year we'll be able to fully fund our depreciation which [1:29:07, 1:29:12]: it goes back to what um we were talking about the assets and [1:29:12, 1:29:18]: uh the asset replacement schedule about uh aging equipment, aging vehicles and that kind of thing. [1:29:19, 1:29:22]: And you know, Desha showed you about the um [1:29:22, 1:29:25]: headworks, that's all out at the water sewer. [1:29:25, 1:29:26]: Those are things that [1:29:26, 1:29:33]: h as he said, are aging, we need to um take care of those things so they're fully operational and very safe. [1:29:35, 1:29:36]: Um the next [1:29:37, 1:29:38]: is the storm water. [1:29:39, 1:29:43]: And we're taking uh forty eight thousand three hundred and twenty three dollars. [1:29:44, 1:29:45]: to the stormwater fund balance. [1:29:46, 1:29:47]: The sanitation. [1:29:48, 1:29:49]: Years to um [1:29:50, 1:29:53]: Taking one hundred and sixty three thousand one hundred and sixty nine dollars. [1:29:54, 1:29:55]: to fund balance. [1:29:56, 1:29:57]: The Ted Strickland [1:29:57, 1:29:58]: Um [1:29:58, 1:30:03]: That is also going to fund balance, but I think that in the future we need to [1:30:04, 1:30:07]: um the people who are the staff that is running that [1:30:08, 1:30:08]: Um [1:30:09, 1:30:13]: facility their salary and benefits, none of that is being charged over here. [1:30:13, 1:30:20]: Therefore there's a loss at Merlmanders, which there still will be, but not as much. So that is for the Ted Strickland. [1:30:20, 1:30:25]: going back into fund balance of thirty one thousand one hundred and sixty one dollars. [1:30:28, 1:30:35]: So that is the twenty sixteen. Like I said, we're trying to finalize the um financial statements with the auditors [1:30:35, 1:30:40]: now and this was kind of like housekeeping that was required. [1:30:40, 1:30:43]: um by state law for us to have a balanced budget. [1:30:52, 1:30:59]: Um and we will need to vote on this uh budget amendment tonight. Um [1:31:00, 1:31:02]: Not sure what order we want to do that. [1:31:03, 1:31:03]: We're gonna [1:31:04, 1:31:08]: First we're not gonna do it here, we're gonna do it after we go to executive session. [1:31:09, 1:31:10]: Thank you. [1:31:11, 1:31:19]: Does that conclude your presentation? Well, that is for twenty sixteen. I'm gonna do a quick one for twenty seven. All right, I wondered when that was coming. [1:31:25, 1:31:31]: Okay, this is a recap um of our first quarter operations. [1:31:31, 1:31:34]: And I am so sorry the numbers are so little. [1:31:35, 1:31:40]: Um anyway, at this point, based on our budgeted numbers [1:31:40, 1:31:40]: Um [1:31:41, 1:31:44]: At in October I always can um [1:31:45, 1:31:49]: feel a sigh of relief when our insurance premium tax comes in. [1:31:49, 1:31:50]: And I will say [1:31:50, 1:31:52]: This is the first year. [1:31:52, 1:32:10]: um in twenty sixteen, October twenty sixteen, that I felt like we were finally back where um we could breathe a little bit. We could reinvest in our operations, which is what we need to be doing. And, you know, there again I say about the asset replacement, it's really, really important that [1:32:10, 1:32:12]: We do keep reinvesting in our city. [1:32:12, 1:32:32]: Um we have a lot of government services that we need to provide and you know, if we can give public works, parks, fleet, everything that they need, um, we just operate all better together. Um I I I'm like Desh just said I think that we have a wonderful staff here. Um [1:32:32, 1:32:41]: Um it's really as um part of why the city of Stockbridge is as strong as it is. [1:32:42, 1:32:48]: Uh so our our um position right now would be uh based on our budget [1:32:50, 1:32:53]: Um where's my number? [1:33:03, 1:33:09]: that at this point we have the debt service that is the a big number that's due in February, so [1:33:10, 1:33:11]: Um [1:33:11, 1:33:15]: That always hits us really hard. So at this point in the year [1:33:15, 1:33:19]: We should really be about losing a million dollars. [1:33:20, 1:33:26]: And with our encumbrances we're losing six hundred and thirty six thousand. While that sounds unusual [1:33:26, 1:33:32]: We do have um franchise tax fees that don't come in until after the end of the year. [1:33:32, 1:33:37]: as well as the insurance tax premium that I told you about that comes in in October. [1:33:37, 1:33:38]: So those [1:33:39, 1:33:41]: are not distributed like on a [1:33:41, 1:33:43]: uh per quarter basis. [1:33:43, 1:33:47]: And they the timing of that is why um [1:33:48, 1:33:49]: The numbers are kinda skewed. [1:33:50, 1:33:50]: Um [1:33:51, 1:33:54]: We have collected almost all of our occupational tax. [1:33:55, 1:33:56]: Um [1:33:56, 1:34:01]: Because license are due at the end of December but they're for the next year's period. [1:34:02, 1:34:04]: So we're um [1:34:04, 1:34:05]: Running [1:34:06, 1:34:10]: We're unfavorable. Like I said, we're losing six hundred and thirty six. [1:34:10, 1:34:12]: thousand but because of the timing of [1:34:13, 1:34:17]: The uh receipts it's it's really is okay. We're on target. [1:34:17, 1:34:20]: We haven't overspent on things yet. [1:34:21, 1:34:28]: Um the revenues and general fund are at two million eighty seven thousand one hundred and forty three, expenses are [1:34:28, 1:34:29]: One hundred and [1:34:29, 1:34:42]: I mean two million one hundred and twenty one thousand four hundred and eighty five, that's an actual number and it doesn't include the encumbrances which are purchase orders that we have outstanding that will take us through the end of the year. [1:34:43, 1:34:44]: Um [1:34:45, 1:34:52]: So in the hotel motel we have received forty one thousand seven hundred and five [1:34:53, 1:34:55]: Dollars, I'm sorry, guys. [1:34:55, 1:34:56]: Um [1:34:57, 1:35:02]: in the hotel motel and our expenses so far is thirty thousand six hundred and fifty one. [1:35:03, 1:35:08]: the urban redevelopment, there again, that is the debt service on this building and [1:35:09, 1:35:18]: Um we have transfers in that has to be subsidized out of the general fund of nine mi nine hundred and twenty five thousand one hundred and twenty six dollars. [1:35:18, 1:35:23]: We transfer in from the general fund to cover the debt service payment. [1:35:24, 1:35:25]: They um [1:35:26, 1:35:37]: T E is the next capital project and we don't have any uh active grants there and our expenses are um one thousand three hundred and ten dollars. [1:35:38, 1:35:41]: And a lot of a lot of those expenses will have to be [1:35:42, 1:35:46]: uh paid out first and then reimbursed by the granting agency. [1:35:48, 1:35:49]: The water sewer fund. [1:35:50, 1:35:50]: [5752.5, 5755.8]: We have revenues of five hundred and fifty eight thousand [1:35:55, 1:35:57]: Nine hundred and forty three. [1:35:59, 1:36:04]: And our expenses are seven hundred and seventy seven thousand five hundred and eighty six. [1:36:04, 1:36:07]: stormwater fund. We have collected [1:36:07, 1:36:14]: Eleven thousand nine hundred and eighty eight dollars and expenses are one hundred and twenty seven thousand nine hundred and ninety. [1:36:14, 1:36:16]: That is a timing um [1:36:17, 1:36:18]: We c we collect [1:36:18, 1:36:20]: uh storm water [1:36:20, 1:36:21]: Um [1:36:21, 1:36:24]: in November or October. [1:36:24, 1:36:26]: for um the entire year. [1:36:27, 1:36:32]: The next is the sanitation fund. We've collected revenues of three hundred and twenty two thousand. [1:36:33, 1:36:34]: Five hundred and ninety one. [1:36:36, 1:36:40]: And expenses are three hundred and two thousand two hundred and thirty. [1:36:43, 1:36:51]: The Merrill Manders Conference Center revenues is uh seventy three thousand five hundred and ninety six dollars and expenses are [1:36:51, 1:36:55]: Ninety five thousand one hundred and fifty five dollars. That's um [1:36:55, 1:36:59]: carries a subsidy from the general fund as well. [1:37:01, 1:37:04]: And the last is the Ted Strickland Community Center. [1:37:04, 1:37:10]: We have revenues of nineteen thousand three hundred and twenty two dollars and expenses of twelve thousand six hundred [1:37:11, 1:37:13]: Twelve thousand eight hundred and sixty nine, I'm sorry. [1:37:14, 1:37:22]: Um that's the same thing this year as I'm talking about that we really need to allocate some expenses from Merrill Manders because the staff [1:37:23, 1:37:24]: That runs that operation. [1:37:25, 1:37:27]: also runs the Ted Strickland and the [1:37:27, 1:37:30]: um salaries haven't been allocated over there. [1:37:32, 1:37:34]: The last one [1:37:34, 1:37:40]: is the splost and those unlike the rest of the operations that we talked about [1:37:41, 1:37:42]: Those are called projects. [1:37:42, 1:37:45]: based budgets and those run [1:37:45, 1:37:46]: Um [1:37:46, 1:37:51]: Those each run in terms of six years because we also um [1:37:51, 1:37:52]: run in conjunction with the county. [1:37:53, 1:37:54]: So the scloss [1:37:55, 1:37:59]: has the splos three has expired. Well we still have [1:37:59, 1:38:01]: money to spend on projects. [1:38:01, 1:38:03]: And um [1:38:03, 1:38:05]: Some of the things that Deshus is working on. [1:38:06, 1:38:06]: Um [1:38:07, 1:38:11]: And then loss four we that is active and the monies are coming in. [1:38:11, 1:38:15]: First we have to cover our debt service on that for the bonds. [1:38:16, 1:38:18]: And so our revenues [1:38:18, 1:38:22]: Uh well in squash three the revenues there you see is for interest only. [1:38:23, 1:38:25]: And the expenses are um [1:38:26, 1:38:29]: That's for the trail plan, two thousand dollars. [1:38:29, 1:38:30]: Sploss four. [1:38:30, 1:38:32]: We have revenue so far. [1:38:32, 1:38:35]: Five hundred and sixty two thousand two hundred and fifty three. [1:38:36, 1:38:39]: And um that's what we that's what we have. [1:38:39, 1:38:41]: once our debt service has been paid. [1:38:42, 1:38:43]: And the expenses so far [1:38:44, 1:38:47]: Uh one hundred and thirty nine thousand seven hundred and forty seven. [1:38:48, 1:38:51]: And like he said, we're starting the um AMI [1:38:51, 1:38:56]: which is the water meter replacement and you'll start seeing that deployment. [1:38:56, 1:38:59]: Um pretty soon the smart meters is what that is. [1:39:11, 1:39:12]: Okay. [1:39:13, 1:39:23]: This is the budget amendment that um we have recommendations for the first quarter of our current year. [1:39:24, 1:39:26]: These are things that we know [1:39:26, 1:39:30]: while um we might not have already exceeded [1:39:30, 1:39:31]: Um [1:39:32, 1:39:34]: the line item that was budgeted [1:39:34, 1:39:38]: We did not budget for these things in particular. [1:39:40, 1:39:42]: This would have to come from [1:39:42, 1:39:48]: uh reserves which like I said uh earlier that the thank goodness our twenty sixteen [1:39:48, 1:39:50]: Uh came out favorably. [1:39:51, 1:39:52]: And we are [1:39:52, 1:39:54]: comfortably able to [1:39:54, 1:39:57]: take this out of fund balance without um [1:39:57, 1:39:59]: Any catastrophic measures in my opinion. [1:40:01, 1:40:09]: So for um taking out a uh fund balance would be a million fifty seven thousand seven hundred and fifty dollars. [1:40:09, 1:40:11]: out of the general fund balance. [1:40:12, 1:40:14]: And um [1:40:14, 1:40:17]: The next little air little section is the [1:40:17, 1:40:18]: Um tourism. [1:40:19, 1:40:24]: And that is a RS V P for Main Street. It is a downtown design plan. [1:40:25, 1:40:32]: Um the council has already voted on it and approved it. This is just a budget amendment for us to actually pay for it. [1:40:33, 1:40:39]: Um and then the next is the branding initiative, which was also a contract that was up [1:40:39, 1:40:40]: approved. [1:40:40, 1:40:44]: earlier in the year and that would come out of the tourism fund balance. [1:40:48, 1:40:50]: Now that isn't [1:40:51, 1:40:55]: You're all finished? All right. Thank you for that presentation. [1:40:55, 1:41:14]: Um at this time uh our attorney has told us that we have uh to go to executive session and it will uh relate to litigation, personnel and real estate and I need a motion from one of the council members for us to go to executive session. [1:41:15, 1:41:15]: You are here motion. [1:41:16, 1:41:23]: May I yes. I move that we go into executive session for let for litigation personnel and real estate. [1:41:23, 1:41:25]: Do I hear a second? Second. [1:41:26, 1:41:40]: Okay, we have a motion by Councilman Gantt and a second by Pro Tem Ford to go to executive session. Uh you please, if you would in the audience stay with us. We'll be back. Is there any discussion on going to executive session? [1:41:41, 1:41:44]: No discussion. All in favor. [1:41:45, 1:41:46]: Okay, we'll be back. [1:42:10, 1:42:30]: I was trying to see where it brings something up so I was asking you to highlight mine and I wouldn't have to do that. [1:42:41, 1:42:45]: [6191.0, 6194.1]: I don't know. [1:43:40, 1:44:00]: Okay, I'll have to have to do that. [1:44:10, 1:44:20]: [6265.0, 6280.0]: Uh we are going to be able to do that. [1:44:40, 1:44:50]: [6300.0, 6310.1]: [1:45:12, 1:45:14]: Um [1:45:15, 1:45:30]: Okay. [1:45:30, 1:45:45]: [6355.0, 6373.2]: So we're here with sinker. So that's the same thing so far. [1:46:13, 1:46:30]: Yeah, we uh Hey how do you [1:46:50, 1:46:52]: [6413.1, 6433.1]: Yeah, yeah. [1:47:13, 1:47:16]: [6445.0, 6447.4]: Yeah, yeah. [1:47:35, 1:47:42]: [6495.0, 6515.0]: Yeah, some on the other. [1:48:35, 1:48:40]: [6521.5, 6540.8]: [1:49:01, 1:49:05]: Um [1:49:15, 1:49:25]: [6580.0, 6591.4]: I know everything and I wonder that's going to be a little bit about [1:49:54, 1:50:00]: Yeah. [1:50:05, 1:50:08]: [6610.0, 6620.0]: [1:50:30, 1:50:33]: [6635.0, 6644.8]: [1:50:50, 1:51:05]: [6669.0, 6675.2]: [1:51:30, 1:51:50]: So [1:51:50, 1:52:00]: [6720.0, 6730.4]: Uh yeah. So you have to think about what we're talking about. [1:52:27, 1:52:45]: Yeah, and then I'll get out of the room. [1:52:50, 1:53:10]: [6790.0, 6790.7]: Yeah. [1:53:13, 1:53:15]: Well I don't know. I'm thinking I have a question now. [1:53:31, 1:53:35]: [6830.0, 6840.0]: [1:54:05, 1:54:08]: [6849.5, 6855.0]: [1:54:25, 1:54:29]: [6871.3, 6877.3]: [1:54:39, 1:54:59]: It's got a very much though. [1:54:59, 1:55:00]: Uh [1:55:00, 1:55:20]: [6920.0, 6930.1]: [1:55:36, 1:55:56]: Yeah, they all have to use the use of something that's how that's like that. [1:55:55, 1:56:15]: I don't like that. [1:56:15, 1:56:34]: [7010.0, 7020.1]: [1:57:10, 1:57:11]: [7035.0, 7049.1]: Well thank you so much for all the stuff in general. [1:57:35, 1:57:55]: [7086.2, 7089.3]: Yeah, exactly. [1:58:10, 1:58:30]: [7110.5, 7130.0]: And the water so wow. [1:58:55, 1:58:59]: [7145.7, 7150.3]: [1:59:11, 1:59:20]: [7177.2, 7185.1]: [2:00:10, 2:00:30]: Oh yeah, it's like that. [2:00:30, 2:00:38]: [7240.5, 7260.0]: [2:01:05, 2:01:05]: Oh. [2:01:30, 2:01:33]: So [2:01:40, 2:02:00]: [7319.9, 7323.3]: I think that's all that's [2:02:15, 2:02:17]: [7365.1, 7366.7]: [2:02:50, 2:02:56]: [7395.0, 7405.1]: [2:03:41, 2:03:50]: Yeah, I think that's a good idea. [2:03:54, 2:04:11]: [7454.1, 7474.1]: I think it's fun. Oh, just think about [2:04:34, 2:04:40]: I'm not going to get it. [2:05:00, 2:05:13]: Which one that's not? [2:05:20, 2:05:35]: [7564.4, 7584.4]: [2:06:50, 2:06:51]: [7625.0, 7638.3]: Well yeah, right. [2:07:20, 2:07:30]: Oh yeah, one thing I think I'm saying about it. [2:07:39, 2:07:40]: Mm-hmm. [2:08:05, 2:08:25]: Absolutely. [2:08:55, 2:09:05]: [7745.0, 7755.6]: [2:09:19, 2:09:20]: Yeah. [2:09:35, 2:09:55]: [7795.0, 7800.0]: [2:10:41, 2:10:45]: Yeah, [2:10:49, 2:10:51]: I don't know. [2:10:53, 2:11:05]: [7894.2, 7900.6]: [2:11:45, 2:11:55]: Just for me and that's good. [2:11:55, 2:12:07]: [7935.0, 7939.3]: Yeah, we'll go. [2:12:19, 2:12:25]: [7960.0, 7964.4]: [2:12:48, 2:12:50]: Oh. [2:13:27, 2:13:30]: [8032.4, 8045.8]: Oh yeah. [2:14:06, 2:14:16]: [8071.5, 8077.5]: I don't know. [2:14:38, 2:14:42]: [8086.5, 8090.1]: So they're all over. [2:14:50, 2:15:06]: [8142.1, 8143.6]: That's a good [2:16:10, 2:16:24]: [8192.1, 8195.5]: Yeah, they're all right. [2:16:38, 2:16:52]: [8223.3, 8238.1]: Right. Yeah, right. [2:17:45, 2:18:05]: [8285.0, 8287.4]: Yeah. [2:18:25, 2:18:43]: [8323.8, 8335.0]: [2:19:22, 2:19:33]: [8373.7, 8380.0]: Uh we don't have all the man. [2:19:40, 2:19:55]: [8395.0, 8410.0]: Well it all years and I'll get my [2:20:15, 2:20:35]: [8435.0, 8445.0]: [2:21:00, 2:21:20]: [8480.0, 8496.0]: Yeah. [2:21:37, 2:21:57]: Well I thought I can get one. [2:21:57, 2:22:06]: [8529.3, 8547.3]: [2:22:28, 2:22:48]: Yeah, it's not the night. [2:22:48, 2:22:50]: [8572.5, 8575.0]: [2:22:55, 2:23:15]: [8595.0, 8600.0]: [2:23:20, 2:23:35]: And it's good. [2:23:39, 2:23:42]: [8623.9, 8630.0]: [2:23:50, 2:24:05]: I don't know if it's sound. [2:24:28, 2:24:35]: [8675.1, 8690.4]: I wish I'd actually think about it. [2:25:05, 2:25:25]: Oh yeah. [2:25:25, 2:25:25]: Yeah. [2:25:28, 2:25:32]: And maybe brought it down. I believe. [2:25:35, 2:25:54]: Yeah. [2:25:55, 2:26:05]: Here we go. Yeah, that's the thing. [2:26:10, 2:26:25]: [8795.0, 8797.6]: [2:26:38, 2:26:41]: Oh [2:26:50, 2:26:54]: [8833.0, 8835.1]: I love that. [2:27:21, 2:27:29]: Oh yeah, but they are very important. [2:27:36, 2:27:43]: I think it's not that fun. [2:28:06, 2:28:21]: Yeah, I think we'll just get on the white. [2:28:21, 2:28:27]: [8915.0, 8918.4]: [2:28:39, 2:28:44]: Yeah, that's what I'm sure. [2:31:23, 2:31:33]: Well, that's the other people. [2:32:17, 2:32:34]: Whoa whoa we're going to go. [2:32:37, 2:32:39]: Oh [2:32:50, 2:33:10]: [9190.0, 9190.3]: [2:33:10, 2:33:17]: [9317.6, 9329.8]: [2:36:04, 2:36:10]: [9395.0, 9401.2]: Oh [2:36:50, 2:36:53]: [9413.6, 9433.6]: Um [2:37:13, 2:37:15]: Yeah, I think. [2:37:30, 2:37:50]: [9475.0, 9486.2]: So same thing with that. [2:38:28, 2:38:37]: Uh maybe that one [2:38:38, 2:38:40]: How do you know? [2:38:44, 2:38:46]: Right. [2:38:48, 2:39:08]: I don't think that's a country. [2:39:08, 2:39:28]: [9567.9, 9587.9]: And then for all that. [2:39:47, 2:39:51]: Okay. [2:40:22, 2:40:25]: Oh yeah. [2:40:26, 2:40:30]: [9640.0, 9649.3]: [2:40:56, 2:41:02]: Yeah, well. [2:41:32, 2:41:34]: That's the problem. [2:41:36, 2:41:38]: Oh. [2:41:39, 2:41:55]: [9817.0, 9820.1]: I'll think about that already. [2:44:31, 2:44:34]: [9895.0, 9915.0]: I don't know about the right. [2:45:14, 2:45:18]: [9919.4, 9920.0]: [2:45:50, 2:45:52]: Yeah. [2:45:53, 2:45:55]: [9985.7, 9991.8]: Yeah, but [2:47:30, 2:47:43]: Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm there. [2:48:00, 2:48:02]: Yeah, yeah. [2:48:06, 2:48:08]: Oh. [2:48:15, 2:48:15]: [10120.0, 10127.7]: I think that they want to go to the end. [2:49:40, 2:49:45]: Oh yeah, I think that's a good thing. [2:52:05, 2:52:14]: Okay, so now that now that is right, that was legal. That's it, is it not? [2:54:13, 2:54:15]: [10456.9, 10470.0]: [2:55:12, 2:55:13]: [10927.4, 10935.1]: [3:02:16, 3:02:20]: [10950.0, 10953.3]: I don't think I'm not watching today, but I don't think that's a good thing. [3:02:35, 3:02:40]: [10985.0, 10985.7]: [3:04:37, 3:04:40]: I [3:09:15, 3:09:20]: Yeah, I think that's why I think. [3:10:15, 3:10:17]: [11419.1, 11421.2]: Yeah, yeah. [3:13:04, 3:13:06]: Oh [3:13:26, 3:13:28]: No. [3:13:38, 3:13:46]: [11690.2, 11705.1]: [3:15:11, 3:15:12]: [11714.2, 11716.5]: [3:15:17, 3:15:25]: Oh yeah, I think that's true. [3:15:45, 3:15:48]: [11752.2, 11755.1]: [3:15:59, 3:15:59]: Yeah. [3:16:25, 3:16:29]: [11792.0, 11794.2]: Yeah. [3:17:30, 3:17:31]: Yeah. [3:17:36, 3:17:42]: Well, yeah. Okay. [3:21:14, 3:21:15]: Oh I think. [3:22:05, 3:22:20]: [12198.0, 12199.6]: [3:29:10, 3:29:12]: [12600.4, 12614.4]: But I don't think that's the only thing that's why I looked at the car. You can write over there. [3:30:25, 3:30:25]: [12626.6, 12633.8]: But yeah, but another myself down there was okay. [3:30:50, 3:30:52]: Yeah. [3:30:53, 3:31:13]: I think I'll be going to get out of here. I thought I'd put everything about that. [3:31:13, 3:31:15]: Uh [3:44:54, 3:44:55]: I don't know. [3:45:14, 3:45:17]: Couple things. [3:45:55, 3:45:57]: [13575.0, 13575.8]: Yeah. [3:46:16, 3:46:20]: [13595.1, 13598.3]: [3:46:41, 3:46:44]: Um terror. [3:47:27, 3:47:33]: [13655.0, 13658.0]: Gosh, it got cold. Ooh, I'm freezing. [3:47:47, 3:47:51]: They're they're gonna present them. [3:47:51, 3:47:53]: Now I won't be there. [3:48:06, 3:48:09]: Ooh, I'm so cold. [3:48:25, 3:48:30]: Yeah, so yeah. Yeah, that's the [3:48:36, 3:48:43]: [13723.9, 13729.3]: But over the [3:49:00, 3:49:03]: Okay, let's just go on the roll. [3:49:22, 3:49:23]: Uh [3:49:33, 3:49:34]: [13804.7, 13806.3]: Panie Przewodniczący. [3:50:08, 3:50:13]: Yes it is. [3:50:55, 3:51:02]: [13866.2, 13871.1]: But yeah, we're going to do what it's like. [3:51:12, 3:51:20]: [13880.5, 13883.3]: Screens? I hope they're in the budget. [3:51:25, 3:51:35]: Oh, say air screen through air screen through the diamond. [3:51:35, 3:51:42]: Close the door. [3:51:46, 3:51:54]: Yeah, this is uh for and up later. [3:52:12, 3:52:15]: [13946.4, 13966.4]: They're in this one. They've already gotten priced up. We're just waiting for them to to get to finalize the order. But they yeah, they're in current. [3:52:46, 3:52:52]: Correctly for the case. Yeah. [3:52:53, 3:52:55]: We'll go on the someone. [3:52:57, 3:53:00]: At this time I need a motion to end the executive session. [3:53:01, 3:53:02]: I'm moved. [3:53:02, 3:53:07]: Have a motion by count uh by Pro Tem uh Ford and a second by [3:53:07, 3:53:08]: Alexander. [3:53:09, 3:53:12]: to uh end executive session. Is there a discussion on that? [3:53:14, 3:53:15]: If not, all in favor? [3:53:18, 3:53:24]: Okay, thank you for your vote. At this time I need a motion to reconvene the meeting in the chamber. [3:53:24, 3:53:25]: So moved. [3:53:26, 3:53:28]: Motion by President Pro Tem Ford. I need a second. [3:53:29, 3:53:30]: Second by Councilman Blount. [3:53:31, 3:53:33]: I'll invite uh any discussion on that. [3:53:34, 3:53:36]: If not, all in favor? [3:53:37, 3:53:50]: Thank you for your vote. Okay, let's get back to business. Um under new business we have um several things that we're gonna take care of um in the following order. Mayor Neil. [3:53:51, 3:53:55]: I need to make a motion for to vote on something from executive session. [3:53:55, 3:54:08]: Oh okay. Uh here, yeah we've got a list. I'm sorry. We've got a list of those. All right, go ahead with the one you want to produce. I would like to make a motion that we extend um [3:54:09, 3:54:24]: our city manager Michael Harris's um role for thirty days as indicated on this memo with the exception of combining bullet point one and two to include mayor and council. [3:54:26, 3:54:31]: Do I hear uh that as a motion, Miss Gantt? Yes. Okay, do I hear second? [3:54:32, 3:54:37]: I'll second that. All right. We have a motion by Lake ShaGantt and a second by [3:54:37, 3:54:38]: Protem forward. [3:54:38, 3:54:44]: to extend the um city manager's contract so that he can help us remotely. [3:54:45, 3:54:49]: uh during the next thirty days after his departure. All in favor? [3:54:50, 3:54:54]: We didn't have a discussion. Did anybody have a comment? [3:54:54, 3:54:57]: Okay, we're all right then. Thank you so much. [3:54:57, 3:55:02]: Could we just clarify that that's May thirty first?'Cause I think it's actually thirty three days. [3:55:03, 3:55:05]: Um can you help our [3:55:05, 3:55:07]: Through the month of May. May thirty three. Okay. [3:55:08, 3:55:17]: And at this time we're going to have uh a budget amendment and that's gonna be presented by both our treasurer and by our city manager. [3:55:21, 3:55:35]: Thank you, Mayor. Uh Ms. Nabreth will start and then I'm gonna jump in. She's gonna handle the two thousand sixteen closeout amendment and then I'm gonna jump in with the twenty um seventeen amendment, budget amendment. Right? [3:55:36, 3:55:56]: Madam Mayor, if I may, real quick, we've we've already heard that twenty sixteen amendment during the uh town hall meeting on list I I would ask that council um you know vote on that, a call to question on a vote without having to do another presentation on the same thing we just heard. [3:55:55, 3:55:59]: [14160.0, 14168.3]: Well the amendment the presentation is for um budget amendment number two zero one six dash zero one four. [3:56:08, 3:56:12]: And that was page one of the twenty sixteen closeout. [3:56:13, 3:56:33]: Okay. Do I hear a motion to that effect? Uh Mayor Neill, I move that we approve the um the twenty sixteen budget amendment. And that was for the two zero one six dash zero one four that it as as it was presented before, as well as two zero one six [3:56:33, 3:56:40]: six two z I mean zero one five as it was presented. Based off of the numbers that Ms. Made do I hear a second to that? [3:56:41, 3:56:45]: Second. Second. By President Pro Tem Ford, uh any discussion? [3:56:47, 3:56:48]: Mm-hmm. [3:56:49, 3:56:51]: No discussion. All in favour. [3:56:54, 3:56:55]: Okay. [3:56:55, 3:56:57]: All right, thank you. [3:56:58, 3:56:59]: Now well [3:56:59, 3:56:59]: Here the [3:57:00, 3:57:01]: Budget amendment. [3:57:07, 3:57:11]: Ms. Neighbors and I are kind of tag team on this. Again, this is also included in your [3:57:11, 3:57:17]: Well I think this is actually the the bo the the budget amendment that's labeled draft B [3:57:17, 3:57:20]: Um that was handed out on a dais earlier today. [3:57:20, 3:57:21]: Um [3:57:23, 3:57:30]: be happy to address any of the comments, any of the line items that you have noted. I would ask that the [3:57:30, 3:57:32]: uh line item regarding [3:57:32, 3:57:34]: Now the three hundred thousand. [3:57:34, 3:57:36]: Be removed at this time. [3:57:37, 3:57:39]: Um to be considered at another time. [3:57:40, 3:57:42]: Uh regarding uh [3:57:43, 3:57:44]: Mm. [3:57:47, 3:58:02]: I'm happy to address any questions. I again I don't know if Copps wants me to go through this line by line or or if we just uh if you've seen it and explored it enough already. But that's the one amendment to the to the draft that I would recommend. Anything else coming out? [3:58:05, 3:58:05]: Yeah. [3:58:06, 3:58:08]: No ma'am, not this time that I can that I can see. [3:58:09, 3:58:12]: May I just have one question if you don't mind. [3:58:12, 3:58:13]: Okay? [3:58:15, 3:58:23]: If we have any questions of Miss Neighbors and the City Manager, we'll take them one at a time. Councilman Blount, you can go first. [3:58:23, 3:58:25]: Let then get back to the mic, okay? [3:58:28, 3:58:29]: Okay. [3:58:31, 3:58:34]: Okay, we have a question from Councilman Blount. Yes, sir. [3:58:35, 3:58:37]: Um, what is Camellia Garden? [3:58:39, 3:58:47]: This is a this is in regards to the garden located adjacent to our public uh north precinct. [3:58:47, 3:58:48]: Um [3:58:49, 3:59:05]: It's an initiative to go back through, replant some chamellies in that area. The hope being to kinda resurrect that park, um, do some work on the fountain as well, with eventually getting to the point where we can actually start renting that property out for a um revenue generating um facility. [3:59:05, 3:59:18]: Oh, so camellia. Camellia. It it's a type of bush. Oh so you a oh so this actually uh this is not a camellia uh name of a place. This is actually comellia's yeah, yeah, the the the the the the the flowering uh shrub. [3:59:18, 3:59:19]: Yes, sir. [3:59:19, 3:59:31]: It's it's to go back through and plant the flower and show. Well we put in there before'cause I know that they i other than the fountain I've seen it set up over there. What what what have we been putting in there? [3:59:31, 3:59:40]: I I think Councilman, if you'll let me answer that, one of the reasons that's going in the tourism people have um [3:59:40, 3:59:50]: the Georgia tourism uh people have recommended that as something that we can apply for a five thousand dollar grant for in the fall [3:59:50, 4:00:03]: to maybe recover some of those funds and they will put us on the state chamellia tour and do all the publicity to drive tourism to our Camellia Garden. [4:00:05, 4:00:08]: So so this is in the plans of when we redo the pounding and [4:00:09, 4:00:25]: Is this gonna be the fountain, everything's gonna be done when we put these there? That's the hope to go through through and do um repairs to the fountain as well. And again, eventually kinda really bringing it back to its original luster. Um it's just I think just gone away with some neglect over the years. And again the hoping again [4:00:25, 4:00:31]: Every time, you know, I I I tell people they come, you know, right now we're in prom season people are always coming over by the fountain to take pictures [4:00:31, 4:00:41]: And I often direct them over there and say, Hey, there's another little hidden gem we have in Stockword that most people don't know about and um and they'll always come back and they're very grateful about it. Absolutely look. [4:00:41, 4:00:47]: Um there is one other uh item I would like to bring to the county to the to the council's attention. [4:00:47, 4:00:55]: It's in regards to the it's on the bottom of the RSVP for Main Street. We talked about this with council a few weeks back. [4:00:55, 4:00:58]: And this was a grant that the mainstream program was applying for. [4:00:59, 4:01:16]: We received notification today that we have been awarded um we have w we were selected one of three cities that were selected for um one of two? Two. In Georgia, yeah. Okay, I thought it was three, but but th the uh the um [4:01:17, 4:01:37]: Um so right now it's we've been we've been selected for the program and they'll go back through the process of determining how much our funding will be based on you know the scope of our work. So um so the fifty six is still funds that's needed to to supplement uh what we feel is gonna be the cost of the plan. But again just a great coup for for our mainstream [4:01:37, 4:01:50]: program. They um you know diligently applied and interviewed and so they were selected for the program and they'll figure out and flesh out the actual financial contribution at a later date. So I wanted to make the council aware of that as well. [4:01:51, 4:01:53]: So while we're asking for money, we're also getting some money back. [4:01:55, 4:01:56]: Mayor. [4:01:56, 4:02:10]: Okay? I I um there are certain things on the budget that we I know we've already supported and voted for. Um and uh even with the Camellia Garden I'm all for that. [4:02:10, 4:02:21]: I however there are some things we haven't really d had an opportunity to discuss really as a council um before now. We usually have a finance committee and [4:02:22, 4:02:40]: Um with the when it comes to the budget, regardless of in the past, even when we didn't have other committees, we w the one thing we did have, and I think it was actually in our charter, was dealing with a finance committee. Um and the reason why I say that right now [4:02:40, 4:02:41]: Uh [4:02:41, 4:02:45]: There are certain items on here that I'm comfortable with voting for tonight. [4:02:46, 4:03:00]: And there's certain items down here that I think we need more information on. Um for instance, the expense for the election is only eight thousand dollars, but we were presented with the election amount of something totally different um earlier on. [4:03:00, 4:03:20]: There is other um the fiber op fiber network infrastructure, I'm all for fiber optics, but I don't think we have made a decision on who that will be, nor do we have enough information to make those determinations at this time. Um I know it's a work session, I think we should discuss it more. Um in the past. Sometimes we even had many retreats [4:03:20, 4:03:35]: treats even at Ted Strickland where we got a lot accomplished where we were able to literally sit down and and talk about these issues and things that we need to get done. Having said that I would ask that we go line item by line item [4:03:35, 4:03:42]: on cer on these these and vote on them individually until we can come to a a resolution on some of the other ones. [4:03:50, 4:03:51]: I have some questions. [4:03:53, 4:03:55]: [14636.0, 14644.9]: Michael. Okay. All right. The it appears that you've got a request to go line by line. Anyone wants to take anything out? [4:04:05, 4:04:08]: Take it out as we go, line by line. [4:04:08, 4:04:11]: Will we voting on each one of them individually? We would have to. [4:04:12, 4:04:32]: And when I say line by line, I don't mean we take it out and we don't bring it back. I just think that we need time to discuss it amongst council m mayor and council and maybe bring back the remaining items at a later date, like next our next council meeting. But we do need some time in between. We got this budget. [4:04:33, 4:04:42]: um in the proposed amended budget, but we haven't really sat down and talked about some of these things and there might be some things we may need to add in addition to. [4:04:42, 4:04:53]: Um so Okay, let's let's go through it line by line. If it's anything anybody's uncomfortable with, we'll set that aside unless it's an emergency and [4:04:53, 4:05:04]: Our treasurer will tell us as we go. Question. So are we gonna you're gonna go over it, review it and then we're gonna vote. Are you gonna tell us about it, some of these items? [4:05:05, 4:05:25]: Before or we just gonna vote. I'd like some description. I got some questions about some of the go line by line. If you are uncomfortable with the number that they call out and the name of the um uh uh whatever it is, just we'll set that aside and then we'll vote at the end [4:05:24, 4:05:27]: And on everything that was left in. [4:05:27, 4:05:33]: then the items that were set aside, we will discuss them before the next council meeting. [4:05:33, 4:05:34]: Is that [4:05:35, 4:05:36]: An agreement with everybody. [4:05:37, 4:05:43]: I thought we were gonna go line by line or just vote on each one of'em. Just d tell what sound better than well. [4:05:46, 4:05:52]: It'll be simpler if we just take out what is what you object to and we'll set that aside. [4:05:53, 4:05:58]: to vote on later. And then we'll vote on what's left. Is that okay with everybody? [4:05:59, 4:06:00]: Council. [4:06:01, 4:06:02]: Is that okay with y'all? [4:06:03, 4:06:05]: Yeah, the answer is yes. [4:06:05, 4:06:07]: All right, here we go. Line one. [4:06:08, 4:06:10]: Start at the top, work down. [4:06:11, 4:06:14]: [14776.0, 14777.5]: Oh it needs to end the [4:06:17, 4:06:20]: What happened? [4:06:22, 4:06:24]: Air conditioner is about the kilometers. Oh, okay. [4:06:34, 4:06:43]: Okay, let's all pay attention those side conversations while we're trying to vote. Here we go. Item one, start at the top. Letter A. [4:06:45, 4:06:49]: You turned it all or no? No, I didn't. That's my fifteen. I turned it all the way that way. [4:06:51, 4:06:56]: Um okay, sorry, letter number A in the amount of three thousand dollars [4:06:57, 4:07:04]: This is for the municipal uh dinner which is held with the city and the county. We have always done this and [4:07:05, 4:07:12]: Inadvertently in the revised budget it got stripped out of there and we will need this later in the year. [4:07:12, 4:07:12]: Okay. [4:07:13, 4:07:14]: Three thousand dollars. [4:07:14, 4:07:15]: Any objection? [4:07:17, 4:07:31]: Keep going. Okay, letter B is Paint Henry Blue sponsor and Cities Weeks. Um I think that we already did vote on this. This is just uh allowing for the money for these events in two thousand dollars. [4:07:31, 4:07:33]: Any objections? [4:07:34, 4:07:35]: Keep going, please. [4:07:35, 4:07:36]: [14857.1, 14863.1]: Letter C is the economic development position is open for um three months so we [4:07:43, 4:07:48]: in essence saved or will offset some of these expenses for eighteen thousand dollars. [4:07:49, 4:07:50]: Okay. [4:07:51, 4:07:56]: Letter D is executive staff salary adjustments. It's in there for ten thousand dollars. [4:07:58, 4:08:00]: Question. Any questions? [4:08:01, 4:08:05]: Is this this is based on like a like a cost of living type of expense? Is that what we're talking about here? [4:08:06, 4:08:26]: No, I think this was for we had this conversation recently as we were discussing some of our executive level positions and looking at making some adjustments based on where our positions fall in with some of the other metro area and staff can make a recommendation to council on um a couple of positions in particular that we think [4:08:26, 4:08:26]: Thank you. [4:08:27, 4:08:35]: There needs to be some adjustments made to make sure we're more remain competitive with the remaining metropolitan areas. That's what that was for. [4:08:35, 4:08:38]: Are there any other questions on item D? [4:08:38, 4:08:42]: Real quick, wha how did you come up with this number based on what we've discussed? [4:08:42, 4:08:44]: [14924.5, 14928.2]: Arbitrary, honestly. It wasn't anything specific. Just based on [4:08:48, 4:08:52]: Right now? Just for right now for the budgetary purposes? [4:08:53, 4:09:03]: I'm sorry? I'm I'm just trying to figure out where we come up how do we come up with this number versus the first time. Just to kinda see and then from there kinda go engage how much would be needed to kinda help [4:09:03, 4:09:06]: No, bridge the the gap for some of those executive level positions. [4:09:07, 4:09:10]: Okay. Next item is item E. [4:09:11, 4:09:17]: public information officer for six months and that actually should be split between [4:09:17, 4:09:22]: uh salary and the benefits which will be several different lines [4:09:22, 4:09:27]: Um but that is for thirty three thousand seven hundred and fifty, that's for six months. [4:09:29, 4:09:35]: Do I have any objections from any council member? Well I object. I'm against that particular one. [4:09:38, 4:09:40]: Okay, that one's gonna set aside. [4:09:42, 4:09:43]: [14983.7, 14987.9]: Well, no, uh you don't st we got a consistency on that to to move it forward. [4:09:49, 4:09:50]: What do you mean? [4:09:50, 4:09:57]: I'm saying set aside. We're we're gonna vote what I'm saying is we vote line item by line item on each one of these. [4:09:57, 4:10:15]: Okay. But if a person objects, then are we gonna we still have to vote on we're we're setting it aside until we get to the bottom of the list and then we're gonna vote on everything that somebody did not object to and then we'll go back and vote on the ones that you objected to. Okay? [4:10:16, 4:10:19]: So that's a E is a set aside for the moment. [4:10:19, 4:10:30]: Number F. Okay, that's the lobbyist who defend Eagles Landing proposal, a hundred and fifty thousand dollars for two lobbyists. Any objections? [4:10:31, 4:10:31]: Okay. [4:10:32, 4:10:41]: Okay. Not an objection. I I think we actually already voted on this in our previous meeting. So we have to take this'cause we we voted on that. And and it went through. Okay. That's what I thought. [4:10:43, 4:10:51]: Okay, the next one is G. And this is the ethics investigation. I don't think that I have all the invoices so far I have [4:10:51, 4:10:55]: fifty three hundred dollars worth of invoices, but I think that there's [4:10:56, 4:11:13]: One or two more coming? I think there should be only one more. We one more. Okay. But we won't I mean whatever it is it is, it w it won't be that we use that money for something else. Okay. All right. Any objections to paying the bill? [4:11:14, 4:11:15]: I have an objection. [4:11:16, 4:11:21]: I'd like to wait till all the bills come in so we can play it all together, but that was my objection. [4:11:23, 4:11:24]: Are you objecting to the point that it [4:11:25, 4:11:26]: Is going to be set aside. [4:11:27, 4:11:31]: Uh I'd like for it to be set aside until we um [4:11:31, 4:11:36]: Until we do it, um until we get all the bills and we know what it is and then we can just pay it. [4:11:37, 4:11:40]: We have to have money. I'm gonna set it aside for the moment. [4:11:41, 4:11:42]: Then we're going back to it. [4:11:45, 4:11:55]: Uh this is letter H. This is the incubator expenses associated with one Henry. I think that we already voted on that and this is just the budget amendment for three thousand dollars. [4:11:55, 4:11:56]: Right. [4:11:56, 4:11:57]: Okay. [4:12:00, 4:12:02]: Everybody for number H. [4:12:03, 4:12:05]: Okay, and okay. [4:12:05, 4:12:09]: All right, number I think it's a little bit more than that. [4:12:10, 4:12:30]: Um was already voted on as well. This was um that we chose an option that was more um extensive than what had been budgeted and this is the difference from what our budgeted number was and the expected cost. All in favor. Any objections to that one? Any objections? [4:12:29, 4:12:31]: Okay, keep going. [4:12:32, 4:12:39]: Then J letter J is a fiber network infrastructure is three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [4:12:40, 4:12:41]: Any objections? [4:12:43, 4:12:44]: Okay. Mayor. [4:12:45, 4:12:59]: Uh uh Mr. Ford first. I don't have an objection, but what I thought this was part of the original discussion and our original budget to to build up this infrastructure in the city. I think what it is we don't have a specific contractor just yet, is that correct? [4:12:59, 4:13:19]: That's correct. What was the last um directive to staff was to set up meetings with some of the carriers and to get input. We had um one brief meeting with our IT internal IT. So the directive was bring in some of the other carriers and we're in the process of setting those up now. I've been working with Ms. Cambray to set those meetings up now. Uh [4:13:19, 4:13:39]: Um I think she should be reaching out to the council, but we've got a couple of the care uh a couple of representatives from each of the carriers that's gonna be coming in and doing a an overview with the council. So you can make a comparison versus what the recommendation folks our IT services folks are versus what the carriers are saying. Okay, thank you. [4:13:40, 4:13:45]: Okay, so the fiber optic, whoever brought that up, um do you wanna [4:13:45, 4:13:47]: Hold on just a minute. [4:13:47, 4:13:48]: Uh Miss Gayant? [4:13:49, 4:14:09]: I just wanna know do we have uh where did the three hundred and fifty thousand come from? Do we have a proposal or something? Or is it something that we c I I'm for it, one hundred percent for it. But I I we need to we we have a line item here that we're showing to companies that we have a budget of [4:14:09, 4:14:29]: of right now three hundred and fifty thousand dollars and we don't know what we can and cannot get. We heard from Miss Anita Lee with the D DA and she worked with Google and there are certain certain opportunities and negotiations that can be made. I don't know if this is the best way of doing it without the with the unknown. [4:14:29, 4:14:49]: Right. And we're in the process of setting those up now. I've been working with Cambray to set those meetings up now. Um I think she should be reaching out to the council, but we've got a couple of uh care uh a couple representatives from each of the carriers that's gonna be coming in and doing uh an overview with the council so you can make a comparison versus what the recommendations [4:14:49, 4:14:54]: Okay. [4:14:55, 4:15:00]: Okay, so the fiber optic, whoever brought that up, um do you wanna [4:15:00, 4:15:02]: Hold on just a minute. [4:15:02, 4:15:03]: Uh Miss Gayant? [4:15:04, 4:15:24]: I just wanna know do we have uh where did the three hundred and fifty thousand come from? Do we have a proposal or something? Or is it something that we c I I'm for it, one hundred percent for it. But I I we need to we we have a line item here that we're showing to companies that we have a budget of [4:15:24, 4:15:44]: of right now three hundred and fifty thousand dollars and we don't know what we can and cannot get. We heard from Miss Anita Lee with the D DA and she worked with Google and there are certain certain opportunities and negotiations that can be made. I don't know if this is the best way of doing it without the with the unknown. [4:15:44, 4:16:04]: Right. And this number came from our our consultant. I think at one of the retreats um they came and presented and they came up with this number as well as the cost for the just for the immediate downtown area to connect our buildings and not for city line. Right. Let's see what everybody else has to say and then we'll come back. [4:16:04, 4:16:05]: Mr. Blight. [4:16:06, 4:16:18]: That was um partially my concern also also uh that I'm for this. Let me get that out of the way. I'm for fiber uh fiber network uh infrastructure, but I wanna make sure that [4:16:19, 4:16:22]: It's it's almost like Mrs. Dacious say let's kinda [4:16:22, 4:16:26]: pull it as we know and need it because [4:16:26, 4:16:38]: Y first of all, you don't want to show your hand and second of all I wanna be able to trust the when I agree to it, I wanna trust the system that we systematically did it the right way to get the whoever we getting to do it. [4:16:38, 4:16:50]: We're fine with that. I think there's still a number of questions on the council side, so we have no problem with that whatsoever to you know, pull it back and wait until we got some more definitive hard hard figures. [4:16:50, 4:17:10]: Okay, let's hear Mr. Alexander and then we'll decide whether it's gonna be a set aside or not. Well my my thinking on that is this, is that we make it a two step process. We know we're gonna have to put some money into it. We've decided to do this, but before we actually have a deal we're gonna have to put out a RLP anyway, right? [4:17:10, 4:17:15]: And it'll be seek and with this amount of money it's gonna be sealed be it, right? [4:17:16, 4:17:18]: Yeah, I would yeah, I would imagine [4:17:19, 4:17:34]: mean so it doesn't matter whether w w we're just setting aside money for budgetary purposes beso because the f the company's bidding they're going to have to bid seal bid a w against one another so we'll get the best deal regardless. [4:17:34, 4:17:54]: Yeah, I mean again we can you can s we can certainly go through that process, take the proposals. Again again it's depending on the direction that council wants to go in, again, there's dark fiber versus going with the carrier. Once that decision is made, that'll kinda help flesh out the proposal a little bit closer. Right, but what I'm saying is that [4:17:54, 4:18:14]: We're not we're just obligating the money to the fund at this point and then there will be a secondary vote when we decide to spend what amount we decide to spend. You can do it that way or you can wait until you get the proposals in and say, hey, here's how much it's gonna cost, and then they do budget manage at that time. That's certainly that's a discretion. [4:18:14, 4:18:34]: Okay. Dr. Procurement Officer has anything you'd like to add to this? As long as we know the sculpture and what our intentions are, then we could do it. [4:18:34, 4:18:45]: Yeah, that what Mr. Raleigh is saying is there's kind of a reiteration. He said you can do it as an invitation to bid, um so long as we have the scope. And I think the question right now is what is the scope going to be? [4:18:45, 4:18:56]: And that's where we need to make that determination of first you know, again we've heard from our internal um consultant and now we're gonna be hearing from the other the carriers. And from there I think we make a determination on [4:18:56, 4:19:03]: Okay, this is the direction we want to go in. This is then we can craft the scope and then from there it goes off the bid. [4:19:03, 4:19:08]: And again I I command outside I hear what you're saying. It could be either we put money in ahead of for now [4:19:08, 4:19:11]: It could be too much money, it could be not enough money. [4:19:12, 4:19:15]: Once the bids come in, we'll certainly know exactly how much money's gonna be needed. So [4:19:16, 4:19:20]: Let me ask the council a quick question. But um [4:19:20, 4:19:23]: Everybody up here seems to be for this. [4:19:24, 4:19:39]: The question that started with Miss Gantt is do we want to show our hand as how much we have before the bidders come in or would you like to set this aside and amend it back maybe next quarter when we have our town hall? [4:19:40, 4:19:47]: Yeah, I think so. I'm agreeable to setting it aside if we allocate it for this purpose is. Is everybody okay with set aside? [4:19:48, 4:20:06]: I want to make sure can I make sure I understand you said set aside for allocated for this purpose, you mean approving it tonight? No, I mean that we we're agreeable to that uh we're okay to set this money aside. Right. And setting it aside. All right. Okay. All right. Um now we're going to K. [4:20:08, 4:20:28]: Now this is the the new servers, this is something, you know, experience of today we had some challenges with our uh servers. Again, they're older, antiquated, they've been saying for a minute now that we need to replace two of our servers. This is part of our kind of one of the final steps in our disaster recovery plan. Um but this is critical. I I absolutely [4:20:28, 4:20:32]: For business continuity we're really need to happen. [4:20:32, 4:20:52]: Any objections? The qu the question will be raised is that is it we've already got the bids for this already and we're trying to cover that or or or is is this another show and hand situation? No, no, this uh y you know, we'll work it through our our consultant. They've gone through and gotten pricing on what that what our service would cost and this is kind of a ballpark. [4:20:52, 4:21:09]: part price so um but we'll make sure they there's a process they work with our procurement folks in getting the um and security yeah it's uh by quotes, right. So they put a number out, this is kind of how much you need the budget for, so we go ahead and get the process started. Okay. [4:21:09, 4:21:14]: Quick question. D didn't we ha didn't we have three servers and one we wasn't using or something like that? [4:21:15, 4:21:17]: Oh boy. Yeah, um [4:21:19, 4:21:37]: What happened to the one that we wasn't using though? Wha what happened with that? I know we have one that was used as re uh as some redundancy. You shouldn't have all of your servers in one location. Right. Like you need to have it say at another facility so if something was to happen you would be able to [4:21:38, 4:21:50]: Keep moving. That's that's fine, but I know that because when we first got the IT people in, they they mentioned three servers but it was one we wasn't using at all. Did we finally start using that or move it somewhere we did? [4:21:50, 4:21:51]: D [4:21:53, 4:21:54]: As a bad one. [4:21:55, 4:21:56]: As a backup, sir? Oh, okay. [4:21:57, 4:22:00]: Any objections to the new server? [4:22:01, 4:22:05]: Okay, we'll go on to the next item which is item L. [4:22:06, 4:22:10]: We just got finished talking about this one, the camellias at the um police department park. [4:22:11, 4:22:13]: Any objections? [4:22:15, 4:22:17]: Okay, then we'll move on to item M. [4:22:18, 4:22:28]: Uh the fibulators. We had this conversation, actually this came up in one of the town hall meetings at uh Red Oak Church about bringing the fibulators into City Hall and some of our public facilities. [4:22:28, 4:22:29]: Um [4:22:30, 4:22:33]: Ian's got some quotes on the cost of the fibulators. [4:22:33, 4:22:40]: And I think this is seven that we w what this is contemplates. A couple here at City Hall. [4:22:40, 4:22:52]: Um our court and our Merrill Manders facility as well. And it might be public works too. And public works I believe as well. So this is what was the fourth one? Third one? Public works build up people there. [4:22:53, 4:22:54]: Any objections? [4:22:56, 4:22:58]: All right, we'll go to item in. [4:22:59, 4:23:04]: No, we took that off here. Oh that's right. We took that one off. That's the set aside. [4:23:05, 4:23:08]: All right. Then we'll go to item O. [4:23:08, 4:23:13]: And this is the fountain at the police department park, thirty thousand dollars. [4:23:15, 4:23:16]: Any objections? [4:23:18, 4:23:20]: Okay, we'll go item L. [4:23:20, 4:23:25]: We just got finished talking about this one, the camellias at the um police department park. [4:23:26, 4:23:27]: Any objections? [4:23:29, 4:23:32]: Okay, then we'll move on to item M. [4:23:33, 4:23:43]: Uh the fibulators, we had this conversation, actually this came up in one of the town hall meetings at uh Red Oak Church about bringing the fibulators into City Hall and some of our public facilities. [4:23:43, 4:23:44]: Um [4:23:45, 4:23:48]: Ian's got some quotes on the cost of the fibulators. [4:23:48, 4:23:54]: And I think this is seven that we w what this is contemplates. A couple here at City Hall. [4:23:55, 4:24:07]: Um our court and our Merrill Manders facility as well. And might be public works too. And public works I believe as well. So this is what was the fourth one? Third one? Public works building people there. [4:24:07, 4:24:09]: Any objections? [4:24:11, 4:24:13]: All right, we'll go to item in. [4:24:14, 4:24:18]: No, we took that off here. Oh that's right, we took that one off, that's the set aside. [4:24:20, 4:24:23]: All right. Then we'll go to item O. [4:24:23, 4:24:28]: And this is the fountain at the police department park, thirty thousand dollars. [4:24:29, 4:24:31]: Any objections? [4:24:33, 4:24:53]: Okay, we'll go to item P. Yes, no money there. Yeah, all the item P, there's four items associated with this, as you can see, and they all kind of come they they're all together and you want to kind of explain. Well, except for a PTO payout and it is that um Okay. Well it's in it's in this number. [4:24:53, 4:24:55]: Right. [4:24:57, 4:25:02]: Yeah. Um moving uh personnel from one department to the other. [4:25:04, 4:25:06]: And the dollars that go with them. [4:25:07, 4:25:07]: Course. [4:25:08, 4:25:09]: Okay. [4:25:10, 4:25:30]: Okay, now on this one that says code enforcement decrease, uh that was my understanding that we're this position will be added back and we're gonna maintain two code enforcement officers, right? That's correct. This brings it back down to the entry level pay of that code enforcement. There was a big discrepancy between [4:25:30, 4:25:34]: between what the person that came out was versus the person that will be going in it w [4:25:34, 4:25:35]: Okay. [4:25:35, 4:25:36]: That's what that difference is. [4:25:37, 4:25:39]: All right. My question is on on is this. [4:25:40, 4:25:42]: On the GIS planning. [4:25:43, 4:25:44]: Is this above what [4:25:46, 4:25:48]: This is above what the GIS is [4:25:49, 4:25:50]: What was budgeted? [4:25:50, 4:25:52]: Well let me put it this way. [4:25:53, 4:26:01]: the position that went back to where it was that was priced at o at a certain price anyway, is this gonna be added to that price? [4:26:02, 4:26:10]: No, there'll be no addition to the to to a salary. This is simply taking the salary that was over in co enforcement and moving it into [4:26:11, 4:26:13]: plan into planet GIS planning. [4:26:14, 4:26:27]: That salary that's getting moved in was higher than the entry level salary that existed for GIS planning. But there's no additional salary being added there's no additional money being added to anyone's salary. If I'm I'm hoping I'm addressing your question. [4:26:28, 4:26:31]: Yeah, it's a little a little twisted. But what I'm saying is that [4:26:31, 4:26:46]: We kn we know that the salary of the code enforcement salary was higher because of the dynamics of what happened. Correct. So when that person went back, were they still at that salary or there's an increase in the salary? That's what I'm trying to think. [4:26:47, 4:26:57]: Okay. Then where where we get this figure from twenty five nine? Is that for a an because it's under it's under GIS. [4:26:58, 4:27:00]: old planner that we didn't budget for that. [4:27:01, 4:27:20]: I think the answer to the question possibly is that this is what the person that was in the position is was making, it's the difference between that and what uh Melinda will be making. Is that is that correct? The the the adjustment between who the person going in there and the person who was in there who's no longer with us. [4:27:21, 4:27:26]: Okay, any objections to those three that are tied together? [4:27:27, 4:27:28]: Okay. [4:27:29, 4:27:29]: Um [4:27:30, 4:27:38]: Well and then also move on to the next slide. [4:27:39, 4:27:55]: It's already been voted on and we then we got the letter uh that we've been selected and this is just to take it the additional amount out of fund balance out of the hotel motel. And so the public knows this is for doing a um master plan for the main b Main Street downtown area. [4:27:56, 4:28:01]: Okay, let's go to S, if we have no objections. [4:28:01, 4:28:04]: To that one. Okay, move on to S. [4:28:04, 4:28:11]: And S is the bringing initiative that we also have already awarded that contract and this is the additional [4:28:12, 4:28:14]: funding that's necessary to cover the contract. [4:28:17, 4:28:19]: from hotel motel phallance. [4:28:22, 4:28:25]: Okay. So do we have any objections to [4:28:25, 4:28:28]: Anything that we have not set aside. [4:28:28, 4:28:29]: At this point. [4:28:33, 4:28:34]: Mm. [4:28:42, 4:28:53]: Okay, walk us back through on uh let's first vote on all those except the we have one, two, three, four set asides that we'll come back to. [4:28:54, 4:28:57]: Are we okay with everything else? Do I hear a motion? [4:28:59, 4:29:06]: Mayor Neal, for the record would you mind stating the um the letter that's set aside. [4:29:07, 4:29:15]: I got three as well. Well, I was counting the three hundred thousand. Y'all had already taken that out, so that was the fourth one. [4:29:16, 4:29:18]: For me at least, that was the way I was looking at it. [4:29:19, 4:29:21]: So is there any objection? [4:29:22, 4:29:34]: Do I hear a motion then that we go forward with everything except the three hundred thousand and number J, G and E? We're gonna vote on those individually. [4:29:35, 4:29:37]: Mayor Neal. [4:29:38, 4:29:42]: I move that we um approve those items that we have not sent aside thus far. [4:29:43, 4:29:51]: S second. All right, we have a motion by Councilman Gantt with a second by Councilman Alexander. All in favor? [4:29:52, 4:29:53]: Thank you. [4:29:54, 4:30:04]: Okay, now we're going back up and we're going to start over again with the public information officer six months salary thirty three seven eight [4:30:04, 4:30:06]: I can't read that. Seven five oh. [4:30:07, 4:30:17]: Mayor Neill. Okay. I move that we approve the public information officer um for this r remaining of the year six months an amount of thirty three thousand seven hundred and fifty dollars. [4:30:17, 4:30:25]: I'll second that. We have a motion by Councilman Gantt and a second by President Pro Tem Ford for item E. [4:30:25, 4:30:26]: All in favour. [4:30:28, 4:30:29]: All opposed? [4:30:31, 4:30:34]: Okay, we'll move on to item G. [4:30:34, 4:30:36]: The ethics investigation. [4:30:38, 4:30:40]: Do I hear a motion that we pay this? [4:30:41, 4:30:57]: get this bill paid. Even though the last bill is not in, we're setting aside ten thousand to cover the last invoice to make sure everything can be paid. Mayor Neil, I move that we approve this line item for the ethics investigation an amount of ten thousand dollars. [4:30:59, 4:31:08]: Do I hear a second? I'll second that. I have a motion by Councilwoman Gantt with um second by President Pro Tem Ford. All in favor? [4:31:09, 4:31:10]: Okay. [4:31:10, 4:31:11]: Majority. [4:31:12, 4:31:20]: All right. And item J. We've taken that one out. Uh voted. Everybody everybody voted for. [4:31:21, 4:31:24]: No, j item J is the one we're voting for. [4:31:25, 4:31:31]: Fiber optic. W are we gonna set that aside, just keep it in savings? Is that what y'all want to do? [4:31:32, 4:31:43]: Mayor Neil, I move that we um table fiber net network instru infrastructure until we get further further information on that. Setting the side. [4:31:44, 4:31:45]: I'll second that. [4:31:45, 4:31:49]: All right, we have a motion to hold that money. Um [4:31:50, 4:31:54]: By Councilwoman Gantt President Pro Tem with a second. All in favor. [4:31:57, 4:31:58]: Okay, thank you. [4:31:58, 4:32:02]: And the last thing we have taken out the three hundred thousand. [4:32:03, 4:32:05]: For police or no [4:32:07, 4:32:09]: [16330.0, 16333.6]: But didn't we before we came in. [4:32:14, 4:32:18]: Oh. [4:32:20, 4:32:25]: Mayor Neil, I move that we remove item um N. [4:32:25, 4:32:27]: of the Business Amendment. [4:32:28, 4:32:29]: Second that as well. [4:32:33, 4:32:35]: Is there discussion? [4:32:36, 4:32:40]: Any comments from the city manager on that? [4:32:40, 4:32:43]: No? Everybody good. Okay, all in favor? [4:32:46, 4:32:54]: All right. Well, I think we're good. Uh now we'll go back to the other items on new business. [4:32:56, 4:33:01]: Have an ordinance twenty sixteen year in budget amendment. [4:33:01, 4:33:05]: Now we've done that one for twenty sixteen. We've already done that. [4:33:05, 4:33:06]: Um [4:33:06, 4:33:10]: We've done our budget amendment, public information officer. [4:33:11, 4:33:20]: And the other last thing well we've got two, uh naming the G C I C agency head for the city presented by [4:33:20, 4:33:25]: Yeah, our city manager, okay. Yes, thank you. Um Mayor. [4:33:26, 4:33:40]: Because there was an item on here that was discussed in executive session, I think that uh since it's on a new business it need does it need to be affirmed uh here in the public instead of jumping to s uh item number seven? [4:33:40, 4:33:42]: I I'm talking about item number six. [4:33:43, 4:33:47]: It's it's under new business. [4:33:48, 4:33:57]: The typically when the city creates a new position under our ordinance the city's supposed to approve [4:33:58, 4:34:18]: the the paid uh class, the job description, the org chart. Because the council already voted for the budget line item for that, typically that's part of that um bill. So unless there's an objection, my in my plan was to include those items as part of [4:34:18, 4:34:19]: Yeah. [4:34:19, 4:34:21]: Uh one [4:34:21, 4:34:32]: budget amendment. However, it would be helpful if for the record the the Mayor and Council voted specifically to approve the pay class, the job description and the work chart. [4:34:32, 4:34:42]: Okay. All right. You wanna pause on that mister Manager and we'll take this one up. Do I hear a motion for number item six? [4:34:44, 4:34:46]: I move that we move with the um [4:34:47, 4:34:52]: Uh improving their position, uh the pay class, the job description, an R chart for the [4:34:53, 4:34:58]: That was presented by uh Ms. Renee Wheeler for the position of p uh public information officer. [4:34:58, 4:34:59]: Do I hear a second? [4:35:01, 4:35:08]: I'll second that. Okay, we have a motion by Councilman Blount with a second by Pro Tem Ford. Uh is there discussion? [4:35:08, 4:35:10]: Yes, manual. [4:35:10, 4:35:27]: Real quick, in regards to that position, um the salary amount range that includes um benefits and all of that, right? Health benefits and it's not necessarily okay, all right. I just wanted to make sure. [4:35:28, 4:35:29]: Yeah. [4:35:30, 4:35:45]: Okay, so the discussion. Go ahead, please. I just want to say for the record public I was I oppose the creation of this position uh because of the concerns that I heard from members of the public and uh I will be voting against this. [4:35:46, 4:35:48]: Okay. Uh any other discussion? [4:35:48, 4:35:49]: Yes. [4:35:49, 4:35:50]: Okay. [4:35:52, 4:35:53]: Yeah, uh President Partin forward. [4:35:54, 4:35:58]: This uh just uh so we know this, uh public me information officer. [4:35:59, 4:36:19]: public relations specialists. The job description says simply this. The staff position reporting is strictly reporting to the city manager designate to promote, disseminate public information through various media outlets and a marketing strategy for the city through media relations, internet and other necessary means. This position is responsible for preparing uh news re release and adversaries [4:36:19, 4:36:30]: public service announcements, statements, brochures, newsletters and reports to both technical and general content, preparing speeches, citizen engagement, maintaining relationships with the civic organizations [4:36:30, 4:36:50]: the of the business community, website design, maintenance of the city website and social media content. Advises management and officials on aspects of public communication and the marketing and may act as a spokesperson and will advise those who are speaking on behalf of the city of Stockbridge. So I want to make sure you understand what the job uh position says. Is there further discussion? [4:36:50, 4:36:50]: [16612.0, 16613.7]: If not, all in favor? [4:36:55, 4:36:56]: I'll pose. [4:36:57, 4:37:03]: Okay, thank you. Now then we'll hear from City Manager on the GCIC agency head. [4:37:05, 4:37:06]: Thank you again. I made the [4:37:07, 4:37:27]: yield to our city clerk a little bit on this. But this is a requirement that um we are required to have a GCI certified individual and have a agency head named. Principally what this does is this is an individual that has authorization to go through and and do background checks [4:37:27, 4:37:33]: as needed. Um we have a person that serves in that capacity within our courts. [4:37:33, 4:37:40]: But um currently the city manager position serves in that capacity. We are recommending [4:37:40, 4:37:43]: is um so I've been certified as has uh the city clerk. [4:37:44, 4:37:51]: Um so the recommendation from staff would be to uh move forward with the resolution to designate [4:37:51, 4:38:00]: The mayor or the mayor's designee and at this time to recommend that the clerk be named the d as that designee until such time that a permanent city manager is named. [4:38:02, 4:38:07]: Okay. Okay. Uh do I hear a motion to um [4:38:08, 4:38:10]: Follow the guide of the city manager. [4:38:12, 4:38:12]: Soble. [4:38:13, 4:38:20]: I'll second that. Okay, we have a motion by Councilman Alexander with um a second by President Pro Tem Ford. [4:38:21, 4:38:22]: Any discussion? [4:38:25, 4:38:27]: If not, all in favor. [4:38:28, 4:38:34]: Thank you. Thank you very much. Now then we have uh one amended item on the agenda tonight. [4:38:38, 4:38:43]: Uh we'll take the first of two. The first one will go to Councilwoman Gantt. [4:38:44, 4:39:04]: Um yes, there are two um agenda items. The the first one um is a policy and procedure that I'm requesting that council would adopt. In the past, um we've had several projects and we've had several retreats where we would come up with projects [4:39:04, 4:39:11]: in a checklist that we want to Could I interrupt you just a minute. Uh reach over and grab that little um [4:39:12, 4:39:13]: The little [4:39:13, 4:39:18]: thing on the other microphone. Yours is lost. I don't know what happened to it. [4:39:19, 4:39:39]: Thank you. Okay, sorry. In the past, um we we've adopted at different retreats different projects and things that we want it done, all projects to include both from general funds and from SPLOS. Um and [4:39:39, 4:39:59]: One of the things that I've seen and it's especially since this is a work session, um, I would ask that the council agree to adopt policies and procedures for projects to include every project that we have planned um to be written down by resolution and attach with it a [4:39:59, 4:40:01]: Um time line. [4:40:02, 4:40:11]: And in that it would stay in our binders at the front of our binders so we can really visualize and see what projects are going on at the time. [4:40:12, 4:40:12]: Um [4:40:13, 4:40:33]: Interesting enough, our public works director said it best today and he says we work on a schedule and if we div deviate from that schedule, we can't get things done. And I've heard that several times from staff and we're we're kinda slim on that. And so I think it would be a balance. [4:40:33, 4:40:34]: Um [4:40:34, 4:40:35]: Well, [4:40:35, 4:40:55]: And I can go ahead and read you what I propose. It states that all city projects that staff has been tasked to complete shall be done by a resolution in place and a projected timeline of completion. This timeline and a copy of the resolution should be placed in our binders to remain permanently until the project is complete. [4:40:56, 4:41:16]: This will help with both accountability and recognition of the task that staff have been asked to perform so that we as council and administration can both scale the jobs, manpower, and time frame. For example, making sure we're not adding additional projects that will keep the other project. [4:41:16, 4:41:18]: projects from being completed and performed. [4:41:19, 4:41:26]: And I just simply ask for your support on this policy and procedure and that we task our city attorney to um [4:41:26, 4:41:30]: uh draft something in regards to this nature. [4:41:32, 4:41:34]: Um is that a in the form of a motion? [4:41:35, 4:41:40]: like to make a motion to the presentation I just made. Um do I have a second? I'll do I'll second that. [4:41:40, 4:41:45]: Okay, we have a motion by Miss Gantt and a second by [4:41:45, 4:41:47]: Um President Pro Chim Ford. [4:41:48, 4:41:49]: Any discussion? [4:41:50, 4:41:53]: Okay, Mr Ellen. [4:41:53, 4:41:56]: I have just received this ordinance. [4:41:56, 4:41:57]: So [4:41:58, 4:41:59]: For us to [4:41:59, 4:42:05]: read this much information which none of us have had the chance to read this entire [4:42:06, 4:42:10]: This is not the topic. The topic is policies and procedures for the projects. [4:42:11, 4:42:13]: The ordinance is the next topic. [4:42:16, 4:42:18]: Any further discussion? [4:42:19, 4:42:20]: No. [4:42:21, 4:42:29]: Um I I just wanna well c well maybe I'm just a little bit off point here. So I w I wanna understand what I'm what I'm voting on here. [4:42:29, 4:42:49]: I just read that you were voting for policies and procedures for projects upcoming in the future and in the past. Any projects, all projects that the city has agreed to take on, whether it's the Carrie May Hamburg Building or any of the projects that we've already agreed upon, that we do it by resolution. And we also ask it staff. [4:42:49, 4:43:09]: Ask tech staff to give us a timeline and in that it will be placed in our binders in the front so that we can hold accountability to staff on what we expect the projects to get done and it will also show us that there are what the k what the staff is doing so that we don't overload them with the [4:43:09, 4:43:26]: various amount of projects. I also stated that our director of project um of public work said it best when he said we work on a schedule and if we deviate from that schedule we can't get things done. Meaning if we continue to add extra projects [4:43:26, 4:43:42]: and we haven't gotten the other ones completed, we we need that organization and time frame. That's the presentation I just made. Okay, um Miss is that written down somewhere? Is that in this package that we is that written down somewhere or you just said that? Is that is there a document? [4:43:42, 4:43:45]: Please pass this to the councilman Alexander. [4:43:50, 4:43:50]: Mm. [4:43:55, 4:43:58]: We'll pause long enough to let him read. [4:44:02, 4:44:10]: I just want to let you uh know what I'm voting for. You're reading at the very first one listed, number one, policies and procedures for projects. [4:44:15, 4:44:22]: That's the only one. Those are just my notes, but you're more than welcome. Okay, we have a motion and a second. [4:44:22, 4:44:24]: We've had discussion. [4:44:26, 4:44:27]: All in favour? [4:44:28, 4:44:29]: Okay. [4:44:29, 4:44:30]: Unanimous. [4:44:31, 4:44:35]: Okay, and then we have one other item Miss Gantt will present. [4:44:36, 4:44:44]: Mayor Neil, at this time I would like to table ordinance three point three zero until um we can have further discussion on it for the next meeting. [4:44:47, 4:44:52]: Okay. We don't need a motion for that. Does you want to table? [4:44:53, 4:44:54]: I withdraw it. [4:44:54, 4:44:56]: Okay, uh motion withdrawn. [4:44:57, 4:45:03]: Okay. Um at this time any comments from the city manager? [4:45:08, 4:45:17]: Well I guess this is my last hurade. I I've kinda thought about this a little bit and kinda played it over in my mind, kinda how to go go out, but um [4:45:19, 4:45:22]: While I won't miss um the five hour meetings. [4:45:23, 4:45:31]: I will certainly miss the um opportunity that's been afforded by this mayor and council and the prior council to um [4:45:31, 4:45:45]: to work in an environment with such incredibly dedicated and professional um staff members and um and for that I'll always be grateful and appreciative. Um it it it's been a it it's it's it's it's been a [4:45:47, 4:46:07]: It's been a really good three years in in spite of some of the challenges that that that we've all faced together. Um I'm extremely proud of a lot of the things that we were able to accomplish collectively and and those are the things that I'll always certainly hold on to. Um again, beyond everything else, I just, you know, want to thank Mayor and Council, you know, for the opportunity to serve [4:46:06, 4:46:24]: Um I'm still in the community so I'll still be certainly will be in engaged in what's going on within the community. So um I wanted to also thank the citizens. I don't get a chance to really thank them often enough, but um they certainly embraced me when I came in three years ago and they have all been great to work with and and and and and [4:46:24, 4:46:37]: their support and encouragement throughout has always meant a lot. So um just again, I I leave out of here appreciative and grateful for the opportunity and the experiences that I've been able to gain over over the course of time. So just thank you all. [4:46:38, 4:46:51]: Okay, thank you. Um comments now from the city council and I'll start now with Mr. Alexander. Yes, I want to thank the city manager for his tremendous tenure and service with the city. [4:46:51, 4:46:52]: You will be missed. [4:46:53, 4:47:13]: I also want to uh let the public know that uh uh the mayor and I attended a really great um community information vi uh visit uh symposium there uh by the Henry County Deltas on human trafficking. Uh this is a a heinous crime that is plaguing our [4:47:13, 4:47:33]: our community that uh there needs to be eyes and ears uh everywhere in the city of stockbridge, Henry County, and Metro Atlanta because of this heinous crime uh going on in our community. I want to commend the Henry Deltas and uh the Tabernacle of Praise Church for holding this tremendous symposium [4:47:33, 4:47:35]: uh informing the community. Thank you so much. [4:47:37, 4:47:38]: Uh Councilman Blount. [4:47:40, 4:47:52]: Yeah, I wanna s I wanna s first of all say, uh, Mr. Harris, we're gonna miss uh seeing you sitting over there. You if we don't do never get that little smile you got right there. Um it's it's been a pleasure, uh [4:47:53, 4:47:55]: serving unto you and with you. [4:47:55, 4:48:15]: as our city manager and as a city council member. Uh one of the things I've always tried to do is never give people what I go through and what I've been through, but I always try to leave people with something to smile about, think about and uh talk about. And I seem to have c accomplished that on my journey here at City Hall. Um and I I concur with uh Councilman Alexander [4:48:15, 4:48:28]: That was an awesome event that uh I wasn't able to make it because at Global Impact Christian Ministries we were feeding the homeless and um I didn't know it was gonna take up that much time and so uh that's where I was at. [4:48:29, 4:48:33]: But I I just I really believe in the city of Stockbridge. I believe in the city council. [4:48:34, 4:48:46]: And I believe in the in our mayor, and I believe that there are brighter days and better days ahead of us in this city. And uh I think you helped to lay some foundational principles that we should go by and that's work together. [4:48:46, 4:49:03]: And so uh I hope that uh and my hope and prayers is that is that's that's what happens in the future and uh and uh I wish you well on your endeavor. Uh and I just say if you ever need me, give me a call. You ever want to beef real, give me a call. Definitely on the red part. [4:49:04, 4:49:24]: Um Pro Tem ford. Thank you, Mayor. Hey, and obvious obviously uh we're gonna miss you, Mr. Harris. Uh it's been a great three years. I would tell you on a personal note, uh I'm gonna miss the little few little golf outings there. I'm gonna miss the entire two 2016 you dealing with me on a more like kind of like a every other day basis per se. [4:49:24, 4:49:44]: say but it was a it was a great run. Uh the challenge is is that the next individual will come in here's got some big shoes afhill and we're gonna be challenging that individual to to uh step up to the plate and and and to see the standards you set which are pretty high, extremely high. So we're gonna miss you without a doubt. I know you're nearby, you know it's just right down the street from me. [4:49:44, 4:50:04]: off off of Walt Stevens and we're gonna annex your community into the city anyway. You see, so you got that coming too, sir, so don't don't try to escape from us, you know, totally. But uh God bless you and your family and your and your next endeavor and uh we wish you success without a doubt. And citizens keep up with the council. We're still gonna move the city forward, keep the faith. [4:50:04, 4:50:20]: we're gonna do it. We're gonna we're gonna show you that we are the the the city staff and the mayor, along with the council to do the best thing for the citizens of Stockbridge. And we're yet to prove everything to do that to you and we're gonna prove it to you. We'll be nothing but successful here in the long run. God bless you all. Thank you. [4:50:21, 4:50:22]: Councilwoman Gantt. [4:50:26, 4:50:29]: Um [4:50:30, 4:50:44]: I like thank the staff for coming out tonight. You guys have stuck through this with us tonight. Um with the long town hall. We got even though we've been here we've gotten a lot accomplished. We couldn't do things without you. [4:50:44, 4:51:00]: And um I know we're having a great celebration for Mr. Harris tomorrow. I look forward to that. And um I'm gonna keep my comments short'cause he just told me not to talk'cause I will start boo hooing. And it's just an emotional time for me. Um [4:51:02, 4:51:04]: So Mr Harris, thank you. [4:51:06, 4:51:11]: I'll just say very quickly, um I haven't been here long as the new mayor. [4:51:11, 4:51:31]: But what a delight it was to work with Michael Harris. And I could go down the list of all the other names of staffers, same way I feel the same way, um, about so many that have been wonderful. But Michael, um you did set the bar high for all of us to be a person of character and we will never forget that. You [4:51:31, 4:51:42]: You never lost your cool no matter how heated the battle. And um we thank you for that and we know that wherever you go, they are lucky to have you come their way. [4:51:42, 4:52:02]: And at this time uh we'll end the evening's meeting. Mayor Neal, if I may be able to do that. Let me finish and then I'm gonna come back to you. Before I go, um I want us all to remember this week that we lost someone in Stockbridge who was very important to the city, Merle Manders. [4:52:02, 4:52:22]: Um the city clerk of many, many years passed and um went on, but she trained our current clerk and um and all the great things that she taught Vanessa have paid off for the city and Vanessa I want to just stop and say to you how much we appreciate you also. Now you have a comment I believe. [4:52:22, 4:52:28]: appreciate that and I actually was going to include Merle in in my comment. She did hire me. [4:52:28, 4:52:40]: And um is I d I use what she used every day. So that will continue. And to you, Michael, our last meeting, I'm not gonna go where I went the other day. [4:52:41, 4:52:44]: But I do um wanna thank you. [4:52:44, 4:52:47]: for being the professional that you are. [4:52:48, 4:52:51]: Um I wish you much success. [4:52:51, 4:52:52]: In your future. [4:52:52, 4:52:53]: Thank you. [4:52:54, 4:53:02]: I'd like to say one more thing to our viewing audience for those who might be listening. Uh with the leaving of Michael Harris, the city manager, we are

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It's four o'clock and at this time if you would just bow your heads um for prayer and then we're gonna stand and pledge the flag. [0:02:50, 0:03:10]: Dear Heavenly Father, we ask you if you would be with us this afternoon in this very serious uh subject matter meeting. We ask that you will be with us, guide us, touch our hearts, touch our minds, and encourage us to um make great decisions for the city's future. We ask this prayer in your holy name. [0:03:10, 0:03:16]: [200.0, 210.0]: By the leaders in flag in the Narcissus of America. [0:03:35, 0:03:42]: This time we'll ask our clerk to have a roll call. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilman Blount. Here. Mayor Neal. [0:03:43, 0:03:50]: Present. Mayor Pro Tem Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilwoman Robinson. Present. Mayor Neal, you have a quorum. [0:03:50, 0:03:57]: Thank you. At this time I'd like to ask for any council member if they would to uh move to approve the agenda. [0:03:58, 0:03:58]: So moved. [0:03:58, 0:03:59]: A second. [0:03:59, 0:04:09]: All right, we have a motion by President Pro Tem Ford and a second by Councilwoman Gantt. And at this time we will um [0:04:10, 0:04:10]: Yeah, hold on. [0:04:11, 0:04:15]: Thank you for yeah I'm going to Okay. Um is there any discussion? [0:04:17, 0:04:22]: No discussion. Then is there um a vote in favor of the agenda? [0:04:23, 0:04:25]: Okay, thank you very much. [0:04:25, 0:04:35]: And at this time, um in order for us to go into executive session, I need a motion to go to executive session. So we'll [0:04:35, 0:04:42]: We have a motion by Councilman Alexander and a second by No we have to say what they gotta stick to reason. [0:04:43, 0:04:46]: For executive session for personnel matters. [0:04:46, 0:04:48]: All right. Will you include that? [0:04:48, 0:04:51]: Uh executive session for personnel matters. [0:04:52, 0:04:53]: All right, do I hear a second? [0:04:54, 0:04:54]: Second. [0:04:55, 0:05:00]: We have a motion by Councilman Alexander, a second by Council uh by President Pro Tem Ford. [0:05:00, 0:05:02]: Uh any discussion on that? [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: If not [0:05:05, 0:05:09]: All in favor. Okay, at this time we'll go to executive session. [0:05:17, 0:05:22]: I'm doing well, June. How are you? I needed you over the weekend. [1:07:30, 1:07:40]: Well I don't know. [1:07:47, 1:08:07]: I think uh [1:08:07, 1:08:15]: [4105.0, 4108.9]: [1:08:30, 1:08:50]: But I would say if I would have had this information, I would have read it and I would have disappointment. Um I didn't know if it had any five references, but um [1:08:49, 1:08:58]: The better people have to I think we know the four yeah. I don't think that might be what [1:08:58, 1:09:00]: That is okay. [1:09:10, 1:09:13]: [4165.5, 4168.8]: Go from heart to coal in here. [1:09:39, 1:09:46]: At this time we are going to end the exe executive session. If I could have a motion for that, please. Mayor? [1:09:46, 1:09:48]: I would like to be in executive session. [1:09:49, 1:09:49]: Exactly. [1:09:50, 1:09:55]: Okay, we have a motion by Councilwoman Robinson and a second by Councilwoman [1:09:55, 1:09:58]: Yeah, is there any discussion for that? [1:09:59, 1:10:00]: If not, all in favour? [1:10:02, 1:10:07]: Okay. At this time we don't have any items to vote on, so [1:10:08, 1:10:14]: We are at the end of our council session. Do I hear a motion to we have to open up the session? Oh. [1:10:16, 1:10:20]: Manielle, I move that we reconvene um our regular our special call meeting. [1:10:20, 1:10:21]: Second. [1:10:22, 1:10:24]: Is there any discussion? [1:10:26, 1:10:28]: No discussion. All in favor? [1:10:30, 1:10:38]: Okay. At this time since we have no items uh to vote on, we'll end our council meeting. Do I hear a motion? Motion to adjourn. [1:10:38, 1:10:40]: And do I hear a second? [1:10:40, 1:10:43]: Okay, got a second by Councilman Blount. Any discussion? [1:10:45, 1:10:47]: No discussion. All in favor? [1:10:48, 1:10:48]: Thank you. [1:10:49, 1:10:51]: Okay, don't go. [1:10:52, 1:11:12]: Okay. After executive session, if items to vote on, this is what I do. Right. But to end the council meeting, so there is something missing, right? Well what about if we have nothing to if you have no items to vote on, you still got the uh You see it doesn't say that on it? That's what I'm missing. That's what I was asking you earlier. Well [1:11:12, 1:11:22]: Well that's just minus a roll on the hold on the size and calculus together. [1:11:23, 1:11:28]: I'll get this straightened out. That that that was where I was talking about. [1:11:36, 1:11:51]: I had to get in a spring mood, yeah. Yeah, not here. Uh this remote. [1:11:52, 1:11:59]: Oh. Okay, I got you. [1:11:59, 1:12:08]: That's the Michael? Yes, it's one Michael. Okay? Exactly. [1:12:09, 1:12:11]: He's quite sure and he won't hear. [1:12:13, 1:12:17]: Right. [1:12:18, 1:12:20]: Our reputation. [1:12:22, 1:12:42]: Well and the and therefore, and that's my whole point. I I you know I can I could s I can see that. I've got to try to do some vetting. I didn't have this other information. I would have some other information and could have done some uh [1:12:42, 1:12:47]: I possibly could have uh went that way and say yeah, he's right. [1:12:48, 1:12:51]: But I didn't have that. All I had was a name, my [1:12:52, 1:13:12]: Oh the guy? You recommend him, but he didn't know him personally? But he got good reviews about the design. I'm happy to take their word for it. [1:13:11, 1:13:13]: I want I want to see something more. [1:13:15, 1:13:32]: I need you to do that right away. Well, I'm I'm I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. Now I'm I'm not c I'm going to c I'm going to pick up my wife and I'm going to class and go up to help and all day fly and we'll be back to flight. So I'll I'll see what I can do to make those phone calls. [1:13:33, 1:13:42]: Yeah, I'm interested. Okay. I'm going to try my birthday. My birthday is not, so that's another reason I'm taking all my [1:13:43, 1:13:45]: City money. [1:13:47, 1:13:50]: I'm I'm going to school. I'm going to go to dinner with my mom. [1:13:51, 1:13:59]: I meant you were taking your wife overnight for your birthday. Okay. Interesting, interesting. I can use that in the campaign. Thank you. Thank you. [1:14:00, 1:14:02]: Thank you. Good info. Good info.

--- title: April 10 2017 City Council Meeting date: 2017-04-10 source: 2017-04-10_April_10_2017_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:04, 0:00:17]: But I don't have any other. [0:00:22, 0:00:28]: Ladies and gentlemen, it's six o'clock, so if we could uh have all our council people come up, we'll get started. [0:00:51, 0:01:07]: At this time if I could I'll call the meeting to order and get started for the evening. Um I'm looking for Reverend Postel. Is he in the audience? He is. Reverend Postel, if you'll come up and uh give our invitation, we would appreciate that. [0:01:08, 0:01:19]: Reverend Postel, I might add, is the minister at the First United Methodist Church in Stockbridge, so if you're looking for a place to worship, I'm sure he'd be glad to have you. Amen. [0:01:22, 0:01:23]: Let's pray. [0:01:29, 0:01:33]: Most gracious God, we are so thankful for this day. [0:01:35, 0:01:39]: in a world that is constantly changing before us. [0:01:41, 0:01:43]: We are so thankful that you are God who [0:01:44, 0:01:45]: Never changes. [0:01:47, 0:01:50]: As the psalmist says, your years never end. [0:01:51, 0:01:54]: So Lord, I pray that we are able to draw strength from you today. [0:01:56, 0:02:00]: I pray God that each and every person in this room is able to put trust in you. [0:02:02, 0:02:05]: I pray, O Lord, that you pour your spirit [0:02:05, 0:02:07]: And to each and every person here. [0:02:08, 0:02:11]: So that we may be able to see the world through your eyes. [0:02:15, 0:02:16]: I pray God that [0:02:17, 0:02:18]: You were able to [0:02:19, 0:02:22]: Offer each man and woman strength. [0:02:22, 0:02:25]: today to make every decision [0:02:26, 0:02:27]: Every thought. [0:02:28, 0:02:29]: Every word that we speak [0:02:30, 0:02:32]: In the competence assurance [0:02:33, 0:02:34]: Of your plan? [0:02:35, 0:02:36]: Your provision [0:02:37, 0:02:39]: And you as our foundation. [0:02:40, 0:02:42]: There is no God like you. [0:02:45, 0:02:46]: It's in your name we pray. [0:02:46, 0:02:47]: Amen. [0:02:47, 0:02:48]: Bam. [0:02:48, 0:02:52]: And if you would uh remain standing we're gonna pledge the American flag. [0:02:55, 0:03:07]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to your God, gorgeous man. One nation, under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. [0:03:08, 0:03:09]: Thank you. [0:03:17, 0:03:23]: At this time we'll ask our clerk, Vanessa Holliday, if she will to call the roll. [0:03:24, 0:03:25]: Councilman Alexander. [0:03:26, 0:03:29]: Present. Councilman Bullt. Present. Mayor Neal. [0:03:29, 0:03:36]: Present. Mayor Pro Tam Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilwoman Robinson. Present. Mayor Neal, you have a quorum. [0:03:37, 0:03:37]: Thank you. [0:03:38, 0:03:42]: At this time um I would like to ask for a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:03:44, 0:03:44]: Mair Neil. [0:03:45, 0:03:48]: I'd like to amend the agenda to include a discussion on um [0:03:49, 0:03:54]: allowing the discussion to uh move forward with hiring a PIO officer. [0:03:56, 0:03:58]: All right, you've heard the motion. Do I hear a second? [0:03:59, 0:03:59]: Second. [0:04:01, 0:04:03]: I'll uh is there any discussion on that? [0:04:06, 0:04:07]: If not [0:04:07, 0:04:08]: All in favour? [0:04:10, 0:04:10]: Thank you. [0:04:12, 0:04:16]: Okay, so um that will go on our discussion list for the evening. [0:04:27, 0:04:39]: At this time uh we have minutes to approve from previous meetings from February ninth, tenth, thirteenth, twentieth, and twenty-eighth. Do I hear a motion to approve those minutes? [0:04:42, 0:04:48]: I've got one down here. Okay. Um we have a motion by um [0:04:49, 0:04:53]: Mrs um Miss Robinson and a second by Mr. Alexander. [0:04:53, 0:04:55]: Um any discussion? [0:04:56, 0:04:57]: If not [0:04:58, 0:04:59]: All in favour? [0:05:00, 0:05:00]: [302.1, 322.1]: Thank you. At this time I would like to um just call attention to the fact that prior to our meeting beginning tonight, we do all of our ceremonial presentations in the hour preceding our meeting. And we had two wonderful um things happen tonight. We did a letter of commendation for Dr. Renata Hannah for Renata. [0:05:22, 0:05:33]: receiving the President Barack Obama Lifetime Achievement Award for volunteer services and volunteer services for the city of Stockbridge. And congratulations, Stockband. [0:05:38, 0:05:58]: And um although the group has left, I believe, um, already, uh we had a great delegation to come and be supportive of the uh Blanton family and the National Autism Awareness Month is this month. And we did that recognition for that and presented it to one of our own citizens who [0:05:58, 0:06:14]: has a beautiful autistic child who was with us and uh helped us get through our picture making by telling us all cheese just at the right time. So we appreciate the Blanton family and we just wanted to make you aware that those two presentations were made earlier this evening. [0:06:17, 0:06:37]: At this time if anyone in our audience wishes to make a public comment and you did not fill out a yellow form, if you will jump up and go out and get a form and fill it out, we'll give you a minute to do that. If not, we'll go ahead and get started with those who did fill one out earlier and we'll go to our clerk and ask her [0:06:37, 0:06:39]: Mm. [0:06:44, 0:06:45]: Need a Lee. [0:06:45, 0:06:51]: Anita, what was the last name? Lee L E E. Anita Lee, if you would come up please. [0:07:00, 0:07:06]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name is Anita Lee. I am at one oh three Club Drive in Stockbridge. [0:07:06, 0:07:10]: Um I'm coming before you briefly just to uh put a little nugget in your ear. [0:07:11, 0:07:15]: Um, I'm gonna be sending you all some more information about what I'm about to talk about. [0:07:16, 0:07:18]: And I apologise that I wasn't able to gather that up. [0:07:18, 0:07:19]: before the meeting. [0:07:20, 0:07:25]: Um I I do know that uh this council in this city is moving forward with [0:07:25, 0:07:29]: uh finding out solutions to bring city wide broadband access. [0:07:29, 0:07:31]: And I want to also we give you [0:07:32, 0:07:34]: uh my sort of expertise. [0:07:35, 0:07:37]: on some of the things that I found out. [0:07:37, 0:07:53]: I know that I spoke with my c Mr Harris and uh the IT department is gonna be contacting the normal folks, the Comcast and the AT and Ts and for that reason that's fine. However there are a lot of of of different and um [0:07:53, 0:07:59]: uh a little bit more cost effective and efficient ways of bringing broadband access to the city of Stockbridge. [0:07:59, 0:08:02]: Um I am uh a digital inclusion fellow. [0:08:02, 0:08:05]: And uh we're just sponsored through Google Fiber. [0:08:06, 0:08:16]: And um that's not to say I'm loyal to Google Fiber, because that may not come here either. Um but I also have had opportunities to speak with other types of organizations [0:08:17, 0:08:20]: that bring city wide and business wide broadband [0:08:21, 0:08:23]: um to those communities. Um I've also have [0:08:24, 0:08:29]: uh colleagues in other cities where cities have done unique and different ways to bring [0:08:29, 0:08:31]: broadband to their community. So [0:08:31, 0:08:32]: Um [0:08:33, 0:08:38]: I have uh like I said, I've spoken to Mr Harris and uh just wanted to put that little nugget in your ear that [0:08:38, 0:08:40]: I will be sending some additional [0:08:40, 0:08:43]: uh resources that I would like the city to take a look at. [0:08:43, 0:08:44]: To um [0:08:45, 0:08:58]: provide municipal broadband to the citizens and to its businesses and I think uh it'll be a wonderful asset to the city and um and uh that's my nugget. [0:08:58, 0:09:03]: Thank you, Anita. We appreciate those comments and we'll look forward to receiving the materials. [0:09:05, 0:09:09]: At this time tonight, um we under our new [0:09:09, 0:09:11]: Oh you got another one. Okay, here we go. [0:09:12, 0:09:13]: Miss Katie Young. [0:09:14, 0:09:15]: Katie Young. [0:09:20, 0:09:23]: And we'll remind all of our presenters tonight that you have three minutes. [0:09:33, 0:09:37]: Hi, I'm Katie and this is Steven. This is my brother. [0:09:37, 0:09:39]: And we are a [0:09:39, 0:09:54]: You deserve it mentoring for teens uh from ages fifteen through twenty one. The purpose of this meeting is to introduce you introduce our organ organization to you guys and just briefly You speak it's a a little bit louder. Okay. Okay. [0:09:55, 0:09:59]: The purpose for this visit is to introduce you to services mentoring for teams. [0:10:03, 0:10:13]: Our primary mission is to enhance the quality of teenagers ages fifteen through twenty one in our community by pri providing program designed to support education [0:10:13, 0:10:19]: Enhance self esteem and equip teams with life skills that lead to healthy, productive choices. [0:10:19, 0:10:28]: YDI has adopted in both conventional and traditional ways to help develop effective and sustainable solutions to transfer the disadvantaged teams into [0:10:29, 0:10:42]: dignified citizens. Why the high has a grassroot organization that supports team empowerment through enhancements of various activity that has transformed transformed lives. YDI is a nonprofit [0:10:42, 0:10:45]: Organization of five oh one C three. [0:10:45, 0:10:48]: The need for this you deserve it mentor [0:10:48, 0:10:51]: organization is to empower teenagers [0:10:51, 0:10:57]: Um we have a lot of different little uh amenity activity that we does. We our main focus is mentoring. [0:10:58, 0:11:01]: If they're having problems at home, single parent home school. [0:11:01, 0:11:02]: dealing with life choices. [0:11:03, 0:11:06]: Uh then also we focus on the ones that finish high school. [0:11:06, 0:11:09]: and have nothing to do or productive to do. [0:11:10, 0:11:19]: Uh so we offer mentorship, academic tutoring, employment, employability skills, community service hours, the ones that have gotten tickets. [0:11:19, 0:11:20]: Quote, quote. [0:11:21, 0:11:25]: uh social awareness. We have a few that's dealing with [0:11:25, 0:11:27]: drug trafficking, um [0:11:27, 0:11:33]: prostitutions that we're you know, trying to steer them down the right way to try to help'em back to [0:11:33, 0:11:42]: being dignified citizens to let'em know that the that way that they think is easy is not always the way to go. So we're focused on ages [0:11:43, 0:11:46]: fifteen through twenty one, bringing him back to life or giving him hope. [0:11:47, 0:12:00]: giving them different choices and entrepreneurship. We have a lot of them that don't want to go to school. College is not for me. So what we do, we have entrepreneur, we have partner with uh a few companies and then we have uh a couple of them that a couple of [0:12:01, 0:12:02]: Uh uh [0:12:02, 0:12:06]: personal owned business have partnered with us to give them entrepreneurship to help them. [0:12:07, 0:12:09]: uh start their own business truck driving. [0:12:09, 0:12:10]: Uh [0:12:10, 0:12:15]: uh Brad, he's over uh over the construction highways, he's giving them jobs as well. [0:12:16, 0:12:18]: So it's just a little bit what we want to do. We want to [0:12:19, 0:12:20]: Uh work with the teenagers. [0:12:20, 0:12:22]: Here in Stalgrid. [0:12:22, 0:12:28]: That's allows that o opportunity. And we also look into partnership uh with Stockbridge. [0:12:29, 0:12:34]: Thank you. Thank you. We thank you so much for your presentation. Thank you. [0:12:38, 0:12:52]: Do we have any more? Who would like to speak? Okay, at this time we're going to move into our new business and under that we are going to uh pause and have a rezoning uh tonight. So at this time um [0:12:52, 0:13:03]: I believe we're gonna call up Camilla Moore who's new on our staff and Camilla's gonna come up and um talk to us a little bit about this rezoning project. [0:13:03, 0:13:05]: Uh yeah, excuse me. [0:13:06, 0:13:10]: I would like to um identify did was not aware that the um [0:13:10, 0:13:25]: the Baker family own this particular property. I just simply wanted to disclose that they have been an advertiser uh in the past with my website um uh on this um partnership with South Point Retail at exit two eighteen. [0:13:26, 0:13:40]: And Madam Mayor, I know this is the first time everyone's getting a chance to meet Miss Moore. She's actually been on staff now for about three weeks, um, hit the ground running from day one. So we thought this would be a great transition. This is the same these are the same two cases that [0:13:40, 0:13:58]: uh myself and Mr. Williams presented at the last meeting, but now in her new role as a community development director, she'll be handling these duties going forward. So I'd like to introduce her to the I think everyone's had a chance to meet her at this point, but to the public as well. Um she's done a great job and she's been a great asset already. So with that, Ms. Moore. [0:13:59, 0:14:03]: Thank you, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem and members of Council. [0:14:03, 0:14:06]: I'd like to thank Mr. Harris for um [0:14:06, 0:14:12]: Giving me the opportunity to serve you and the citizens of Stockbridge. I look forward to implementing your vision [0:14:13, 0:14:15]: And as what you see is what you get. [0:14:15, 0:14:18]: I'm gonna bring you the good, the bad and the ugly. [0:14:19, 0:14:21]: That's how I operate as your planning director. [0:14:21, 0:14:24]: Mayor, we have two items before you tonight. [0:14:24, 0:14:40]: Uh for the record I'm gonna read the first one into the record. It's RZ sixteen thirty nine S for Stockbridge. The applicant is Bruce Brown. The location is five one oh four North Henry Boulevard. The rezoning is from C one to C two. [0:14:41, 0:14:43]: Right now it's operating as a swimming pool. [0:14:44, 0:14:49]: Current land use is retail, sales and indoor recreation, future land use commercial. [0:14:49, 0:14:54]: Road access is North Henry Boulevard. Staff prepared a package for you. [0:14:55, 0:14:56]: If you have it [0:14:56, 0:14:58]: Right here is our area view. [0:14:59, 0:15:07]: And on this area view it's struck in yellow lines, shows you the location of the property along State Route Highway forty two. [0:15:07, 0:15:12]: Most of this area has already transitioned from non residential to [0:15:12, 0:15:15]: Other uses such as C one, O and I [0:15:15, 0:15:29]: Henry County Planning Department recommended approval. Staff has reviewed their recommendations and the Planning Commission on March in March also recommended approval. So staff is coming for you tonight supporting the recommendation of Henry County and the Planning Commission. [0:15:31, 0:15:32]: Thank you. [0:15:33, 0:15:45]: Do I hear a motion that we accept or do we need to Madam Mayor, we need to open the public hearing to receive public comment um, on this change. Okay. [0:15:45, 0:15:57]: All right then we are going to do that. Um in order for us to go into a public hearing, do I hear a motion that we go into public hearing for the matter of hearing rezoning? Okay. [0:15:58, 0:15:59]: Okay. We're in. [0:16:00, 0:16:00]: Um [0:16:01, 0:16:02]: If we could at this time. [0:16:03, 0:16:03]: Um [0:16:04, 0:16:22]: If there's any public comment, we're gonna take public comment, either for or against this rezoning. So if there's anyone in the room who is against it, we'll hear you first and then we'll hear those that are for. So anyone who's against, if you would come to the podium. [0:16:24, 0:16:30]: Okay. Is there anyone who would like to speak on behalf of this motion? [0:16:32, 0:16:33]: Rezoning. [0:16:34, 0:16:36]: You don't, unless you want to. [0:16:36, 0:16:37]: Okay. [0:16:37, 0:16:39]: All right. [0:16:39, 0:16:57]: There's um nothing for or against other than the person who the applicant is here and um we appreciate your presence and as I said you're welcome to come but not necessary if you don't have anybody against you. At this time, if there is a motion to move forward [0:16:58, 0:17:05]: We just need to formally close the hearing so you can just do that by statement. And then we're going to vote after that. Is that correct? [0:17:05, 0:17:13]: Okay. All right. We're gonna close the public hearing at this time and then we are going to vote. So we're officially closed. May nil. [0:17:14, 0:17:25]: I move that we approve the rezoning R Z sixteen dash thirty nine S um uh property location fifty one oh four North Henry Boulevard. [0:17:25, 0:17:34]: Okay, we have a motion by Miss Gantt and a second by Mr Alexander and at this time, Mr Blount, please. I mean Mr Blount, well, your voice. [0:17:35, 0:17:42]: Didn't get that over there. Uh okay, Mr. Blount, uh second from you. And now this time is there any discussion? Yes. [0:17:43, 0:18:02]: I I really would like to hear from the applicant because uh many of the public probably is not aware of this project and this could be a significant addition to the city, so if you might be able to talk about it a little bit and kinda tell uh the public that you're about to add a swim facility to the city, I think they might be excited about it. [0:18:05, 0:18:20]: My name is Bruce Brown, fifty one oh four North Henry Boulevard, uh owner operator of Wet Set, Scuba and Swim. Um we're not adding anything. We've actually been doing this for over eighteen years at this point. Um we just found that our zoning didn't [0:18:21, 0:18:25]: really include the swim school portion of it. So we [0:18:25, 0:18:28]: made efforts to fix that particular issue. So [0:18:28, 0:18:40]: Um the pool's been there. It's an indoor heated swimming pool. We've been teaching swimming lessons uh like I said for eighteen plus or minus years and swim parties and scuba lessons and all that stuff up there. [0:18:40, 0:18:58]: It apparently is one of the best kept secrets of Stockbridge because It is. Eighteen years I've had people, you know, they they drive by and say they wanna you know, they've been meaning to stop in or whatever and uh everybody pulls in wants to actually see the pool itself and it's down behind the building closed in. So [0:18:59, 0:19:02]: Uh do we have questions from the council? [0:19:04, 0:19:04]: Okay. [0:19:04, 0:19:05]: One second. [0:19:05, 0:19:25]: Yeah, th thank you, Mayor. I wanna m make it known also that um probably eight to ten years or so ago, my only child, which happens to be a female, actually I took her to your swim facility to learn how to swim. Uh so I just wanna let you it was it worked well. She's she's a decent swimmer. But that was the initial start there aspect. So I don't know if that if that what that does and or nothing, okay, great. [0:19:25, 0:19:31]: Just want to make sure I I get that out. But but absolutely. I put she participated in that. So good. Thank you. [0:19:31, 0:19:46]: Uh Mr Brown, we appreciate that and we appreciate the fact that we're being able to get this word out for you that we teach swimming in Stockbridge. So thank you for coming to the podium and uh um we have another question from um Councilman Blount. [0:19:47, 0:19:48]: It's right here. [0:19:49, 0:19:56]: Just real quick,'cause I've been to your facility a few times to deal with you know, looking at your you know I actually bought a couple of regulators from there. All right. [0:19:56, 0:20:09]: Um I've been with Patty since nineteen eighty four. Now are you still gonna be dealing with those uh type uh dynamics even with the we're hanging on to scuba as long as we can hang on to it. Unfortunately that's that's my my passion and [0:20:09, 0:20:11]: And here in Stockbridge it's just not [0:20:12, 0:20:20]: as busy as it once was. Um we're we're doing more business in the swim lesson part of it than the scuba part of it. [0:20:20, 0:20:24]: Uh but I still work on regulators and sell'em every chance I get, so [0:20:24, 0:20:25]: Yes, sir. [0:20:26, 0:20:28]: Okay. Any other questions? I do. Ms. Robinson. [0:20:29, 0:20:46]: I'm just excited about this. I thought you were just a private um swim place. Is this something that you reach out to the community? How do you actually advertise, you know, for is the community of our advertising is the swim lesson sign out front and word of mouth. [0:20:46, 0:20:48]: Okay. Yeah. So is there something I guess [0:20:49, 0:21:05]: You know, that would be good to get with the school board to let them know that that's we've done stuff with some of the local schools. The uh Henry County Recreation Department used to put our flyers up and stuff like that. Um our our classes this time of year are pretty much booked full through the summer. [0:21:05, 0:21:12]: So we we don't do a whole lot of advertising simply for the fact we we don't have a whole lot more to sell than what we've already sold. So [0:21:13, 0:21:17]: Um it's up there. Come on up and check it out. Definitely do that. Thank you so much. [0:21:17, 0:21:19]: Any other questions from the Council? [0:21:20, 0:21:24]: All right. Thank you, Mr Brown. [0:21:26, 0:21:27]: Sure. [0:21:28, 0:21:33]: Okay, at this time do I have a motion that we can move forward with this rezoning? [0:21:34, 0:21:37]: We've already done that and so uh at this time [0:21:37, 0:21:39]: If there's no more discussion? [0:21:39, 0:21:42]: We're going to vote on Miss Gantt's motion. [0:21:43, 0:21:44]: All in favour? [0:21:45, 0:21:46]: Okay, we're good. [0:21:46, 0:21:53]: Moving on. Yes, Mayor, the next item before you tonight is a variance, VR seventeen oh two S. [0:21:53, 0:21:56]: The applicant is station two ALP Sunako. [0:21:57, 0:22:04]: At 3350 Riverwood Parkway, suite 1800, Atlanta, Georgia, the agent is Stephen Barger. [0:22:04, 0:22:12]: Location in the southwest corner of the intersection of North Henry Boulevard and Rock Quarry Road, landlock 61 of the 12th District. [0:22:13, 0:22:17]: The applicant has come in and asked for fifteen parances. [0:22:17, 0:22:21]: I want to preface um here is an air area view. [0:22:23, 0:22:24]: Here is his only map. [0:22:25, 0:22:28]: And here are some pictures that I want to talk about. [0:22:28, 0:22:30]: I want to preface this case. [0:22:31, 0:22:36]: to give you an understanding why there are so many variance requests for this particular property. [0:22:37, 0:22:42]: Any property that preceded your adoption of your downtown developments [0:22:43, 0:22:44]: Lay overlay. [0:22:44, 0:23:04]: If they do anything to improve the property, it's going to trigger compliance. So, not only with this property, but other properties that preceded the adoption of the overlay, you're going to see a number of these variances. And the reason why, they have two choices. One, to make the property look better, or two, to leave it as it is. [0:23:04, 0:23:11]: is. And so when they come in like this, they're hoping that we will allow them to improve the property. [0:23:11, 0:23:14]: Right here is a building before and after. [0:23:14, 0:23:19]: As you can see, which was one of the major objections in re in relation to the variances from the county. [0:23:20, 0:23:21]: And then this is more important. [0:23:22, 0:23:23]: The sign. [0:23:23, 0:23:27]: the science as you can see what it was and what it is. [0:23:27, 0:23:35]: Here County Planning Department only approved five of these as it relates to the overlay district. [0:23:35, 0:23:37]: They denied all of the signage [0:23:38, 0:23:39]: requirements and requests. [0:23:40, 0:23:44]: The planning commission, however, has a recommended approval of all fifteen. [0:23:44, 0:23:48]: Staff is recommending approval of all fifteen as well. [0:23:48, 0:23:52]: The reason why we're doing that is based on my previous statement. [0:23:52, 0:24:12]: This particular location preceded your overlay district adoption. Therefore, this particular owner is attempting to make the property look better. So he has two choices: to leave it as it is or make it look better. And so before you tonight, all the 15 variances, and we're asking. [0:24:12, 0:24:19]: Asking that Mayor and Council agrees with the Planning Commission and our staff that you recommend approval of all fifteen variances. [0:24:20, 0:24:28]: Okay, at this time I would like to ask if there's anyone in the audience who is against [0:24:28, 0:24:29]: This [0:24:29, 0:24:32]: um variance request. [0:24:32, 0:24:34]: If there is, please come to the podium. [0:24:37, 0:24:44]: We have no one against. Do we have anyone in the audience uh for this other than the applicant? [0:24:46, 0:24:51]: Or if the applicant's here and they want to come to the podium, they may do so if needed. [0:24:55, 0:24:55]: Okay. [0:24:56, 0:25:02]: Um in that case do we have any discussion from our podium or a motion? Yes, Mayor. I hello. [0:25:03, 0:25:05]: If I can get the applicant to come forward. [0:25:16, 0:25:36]: Yes, ma'am. I had uh sp spoken early but I wanted to do this publicly s because I had a concern um with the Sinoco that's at the Walmart and you'll have the affiliation with that and the concern was the upkeep. I don't want it to bleed knowing that we have two Sinoco's on each end. [0:25:36, 0:25:56]: to bleed into this one um in our downtown area. However, the one by the Walmart that you're familiar with, if you can definitely um help us out with that. And I know Camilla will um be in contact to make sure ensure that the upkeep with that one will be just as this one that we're trying to do. So I just wanted to [0:25:56, 0:26:03]: make that known that I did have a brief conversation when I asked you, but I want to s let everyone be able to hear the same conversation. [0:26:04, 0:26:10]: And sure guys. My name's Dean Dominey. I appreciate y'all's time today, Mayor Neal and Commissioners. [0:26:10, 0:26:11]: Um [0:26:12, 0:26:12]: You know [0:26:13, 0:26:16]: contract. We we actually supply that store up here across from Walmart. [0:26:17, 0:26:20]: Now we don't own the property, but we do supply it. [0:26:20, 0:26:23]: Um initially when it was done it it was great. [0:26:24, 0:26:29]: And you know, it's it's never the land, it's never the brand, it's always the man running it. [0:26:29, 0:26:31]: That he's either going to make it nice [0:26:32, 0:26:32]: He be clean. [0:26:33, 0:26:38]: But in our supply agreements with them we do require them to keep that facility clean. [0:26:38, 0:26:40]: [1600.5, 1601.4]: We can actually [0:26:41, 0:26:43]: Send somebody there to clean it for'em. [0:26:44, 0:26:45]: And we can drive their account. [0:26:46, 0:26:48]: So you know we if [0:26:49, 0:26:52]: Anytime uh we wanna make sure that y'all have our number. [0:26:53, 0:26:57]: So that if y'all see anything out there, you let us know and we'll we'll get it corrected. [0:26:58, 0:27:00]: Uh we want clean facilities. [0:27:01, 0:27:05]: Um and you know we supply probably a hundred and seventy locations. [0:27:06, 0:27:25]: And that's why I said it's always the man or the woman. It's never the land, it's never the brand. So we will make sure that we address that for the city. Uh we want a clean, beautiful facility, especially for the women, and uh we want a well lit facility. So we appreciate y'all's time. We will address it. [0:27:26, 0:27:40]: Thank you. And I just want to add it's uh also for safety. Um that's the main factor because people go in and we're tracked and it's right there at our interest on forty two. So we definitely want to keep safety first. Thank you so very much. [0:27:40, 0:27:40]: Weird direction. [0:27:41, 0:27:42]: Okay, thank you so much. [0:27:43, 0:27:46]: At this time if there are no other comments, do I hear a motion? [0:27:47, 0:27:48]: Mayor Neal? [0:27:48, 0:27:51]: Okay. I move that we approve the um [0:27:53, 0:27:58]: The I'm sorry, the Varence VR seventeen zero two S. [0:27:58, 0:27:59]: I second. [0:28:00, 0:28:02]: Okay, do I hear a second to Ms. Gantt's motion? [0:28:02, 0:28:03]: I second. [0:28:04, 0:28:06]: Okay, we've got a second for Miss Robinson. [0:28:06, 0:28:08]: Any discussion further? [0:28:08, 0:28:10]: On this variance. [0:28:11, 0:28:15]: No discussion, then we will ask for the vote. All in favor? [0:28:18, 0:28:26]: And Mr. Alexander is abstaining. All right, thank you so much. Motion passes. Congratulations. Thank you, Mr. Abstain. Thank you. [0:28:26, 0:28:27]: Thank you. [0:28:31, 0:28:35]: All right, we're m moving on under New Business to um [0:28:36, 0:28:43]: a resolution that is going to be presented by Ms. Gantt that relates to the establishment of a timeline [0:28:43, 0:28:51]: for dissect uh for selecting a design company and rebuilding uh a state of the art community and cultural center. Ms. Gantt. [0:28:52, 0:29:12]: Um yes, thank you, Mayor Neil. Um we were actually we've discussed this several times, um, council, and pretty much where we are today is I'm hoping that we can get an update from our city manager as well as get some type of timeline together. Um, Councilman Alexander [0:29:12, 0:29:32]: actually has spoken on this as well in regards to making um planned arrangements. Um I'm I'm a big uh people who know me know that I've always said let's get some buildings up and let's let's start building. We have um some splash funds and we have different things and [0:29:32, 0:29:48]: And one of the the Cultural Arts Center is something that was our one of our top priorities at our retreat. And so I was hoping that we could have a discussion today um and maybe hear from our city manager in regards to a proposed timeline and where we are right now. [0:29:51, 0:29:55]: I just want to make a statement while he's handing these out that we are out of our [0:29:56, 0:29:57]: Um [0:29:58, 0:30:02]: public hearing and this is just a discussion matter. Thank you. [0:30:15, 0:30:20]: Thank you, Mayor. Good evening, Council again. Um what I've handed out is [0:30:20, 0:30:21]: Actually the [0:30:22, 0:30:26]: timeline is currently being utilized for our public works facility. [0:30:27, 0:30:30]: It gives you a kind of a a number of days in the steps. [0:30:31, 0:30:47]: And I provided this because this is really going to be very similar to the process that we'll take for the new building in regards to the new cultural arts facility as well. So it gives you an idea of from the start to finish how much time we're taking. The steps will will will be about the exact same, you know, in all honesty. Um [0:30:47, 0:31:06]: I would like to give you, Consul McGann, a as you noted, um, an update on where we stand right now with that building, that facility. Demolition actually began on the building last week. They're doing in some of the interior work right now, taking out some of the walls. Once that's completed, we hope this week or next week to actually start with the actual physical exterior of the building, but [0:31:06, 0:31:09]: Um so that's a demo inside the facility has already begun. [0:31:09, 0:31:10]: began last week and [0:31:11, 0:31:15]: I think we're anticipating Mr. Riley forty five, sixty days. [0:31:16, 0:31:20]: sixty days on the on the completion of the demolition work. Um [0:31:20, 0:31:26]: Once that is completed, the first step in the process will really be a site assessment. [0:31:26, 0:31:27]: Um [0:31:28, 0:31:34]: And you'll see some of the things I hear. It talks about the survey and phase one authorized. That'll be one of those first primary steps. [0:31:34, 0:31:54]: Um once we get everything exposed, once we get all the soil exposed, then we can start that process of going through doing the site assessment, doing a soil analysis, and that'll kinda help us to gauge us on what the usable footprint for this building will be. Um once that's done, so the next steps in the process will involve a survey to make determination on exactly what it is [0:31:54, 0:32:14]: what's the council's desire for what they want to see and how that building will be utilized. What we've done with our public works facilities has been very similar process. We've sat down with the end users, in this case our public works department, our facilities people, our IT group as well, and met with them to find out what is it we're needing, what are the storage requirements, what are our office space requirements, [0:32:14, 0:32:34]: requirements, what are our training room facility requirements, outside storage, ins in inside storage, and what are the components that are going to be needed within that facility, what ballpark, what's the what's the physical footprint of that building going to be? And next week what you're going to hear is an update on the status of that process from our public works [0:32:34, 0:32:35]: [1955.7, 1975.7]: Um so we actually we're at the point now, as you can see by this schedule, where we have moved forward with the schematics. We have about the schematics done. So this is a the schedule that was presented back when we first awarded the project to Pond. Um and so we are tracking, we they're having regular update meetings. We've been going through and um developing a master [0:32:55, 0:33:07]: plan for the look of the building, kinda going back and forth. I certainly think there would be another component in in regards to this particular building that would involve some public involvement. Obviously it's gonna be [0:33:07, 0:33:12]: um uh uh facilities can be highly utilized by the public and it's gonna be really for the public use. [0:33:12, 0:33:27]: So adding that component into the schedule as well I think will be important. Um public involvement, uh public meetings, uh pu uh like some public charrettees to help get some input on the the final use. And obviously there are some decisions the council need to make on exactly [0:33:27, 0:33:27]: What [0:33:28, 0:33:30]: uses are gonna be within this building as well, so [0:33:31, 0:33:34]: Again, I presented this as a guideline to kind of show [0:33:34, 0:33:39]: what we anticipate would be the the the steps that we take. And as you can see from here this went from [0:33:39, 0:33:43]: September to August. So you're talking about, you know [0:33:43, 0:33:52]: Anywhere from eight to ten to twelve months, ballpark depending on how fast those processes move forward. And again, part of it is contingent upon um our staff. [0:33:52, 0:34:12]: You know, as they provide information to us, we had surveys we had to go through um for needs assessment. So how quickly we can get that information back to the uh to the um um to the designer as well. So again, right now we are at the process of again going forward with the demolition as no to be about sixty days. Um what we've talked about is [0:34:12, 0:34:23]: starting the process of selecting a consultant to do this work if that's something the council wanna discuss in uh in the subsequent meetings. But um right now, you know, this is the type of schedule that we anticipate. [0:34:24, 0:34:25]: Be happy to address any questions. [0:34:26, 0:34:26]: Manual. [0:34:27, 0:34:37]: Uh yes, Ms. Gamp. Mr. Harris, thank you so much for the presentation. Um in regards to the timeline, I see here we're we're actually still under new business. [0:34:37, 0:34:38]: Um [0:34:39, 0:34:43]: I think it's a a pretty clean cut timeline. Uh I mean is [0:34:43, 0:35:01]: It's self explanatory, um, to the point where we get to the bid documents based on based on authorization to proceed in August um seventeenth, two thousand seventeen. And I would ask my colleagues to um I know this is a tentative timeline, however, you know [0:35:01, 0:35:05]: I would ask my colleagues to support this timeline. Um [0:35:05, 0:35:06]: To a certain degree. [0:35:07, 0:35:10]: in regards to the steps that we have here on paper. [0:35:10, 0:35:20]: I I just want for clarification. This is a timeline for the public works building. Oh. So if you'd like, I can certainly use these same criteria and we can back the dates into [0:35:21, 0:35:23]: um the proposed new facility. [0:35:23, 0:35:27]: So I just want to give this as a tempo. This is something we already have established and that we're currently using. That's why [0:35:28, 0:35:34]: Uh you know, before we uh drafted something, I wanna make sure we had the conversations everyone's clear on what the question issues were. [0:35:35, 0:35:44]: We have a question by Pro Tem Ford. Yes. [0:35:44, 0:36:04]: Good to see that. But need something that says the the carry may hammer a cultural response bill and and the in the timeline for that as well. That's one thing. Number two, Mr. Riley, I know you're not up here but I want you to want you to let me know, let the council know if you could, uh that when they start demolitioning on the outside, when they want to start knocking it down, I'd like to see that. [0:36:05, 0:36:17]: I want to be present when I hit when it first. Exterior work. I'd like to see that. I want to see it come down. So I can jump for joy. Okay. All right. Thank you very much. So again if if the council is is okay with this [0:36:17, 0:36:37]: the the premise of this of this schedule, we can draft this, put something in place, equal, you know, there may be a couple other steps, but it r again it's roughly about eleven months. Um we can look at you know opportunities for tweak. But again this it's a starting point. Um not something necessarily we can hold the the contractor to again some of this is going to be contingent on us getting your information back [0:36:37, 0:36:45]: to them in a timely manner but but as a guide and I think that's what you're looking for, Councilwoman, we can certainly put that in place. [0:36:45, 0:36:49]: Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Do we have any other comments on this discussion item? [0:36:50, 0:36:54]: Yes, Mayor. Okay. Uh Mr Mr Blount. Mr. [0:36:55, 0:36:59]: But as far as Carrie May Hammer building is concerned [0:37:00, 0:37:03]: When we look at um all the components right now [0:37:04, 0:37:14]: We're in line for sixty days to start seeing it come down. Is that what you're saying? Oh no, you'll start seeing it coming down before s it should be completed within sixty days. [0:37:18, 0:37:36]: Yeah, like I said the interiors are work has already begun. So next thing we want to get ever all the interior stuff done and knocked out and then the actual implosion won't take a great deal of time but but we're also taking up all the concrete on and and the site as well so they'll be out there for a while removing all that concrete and asphalt as well. [0:37:37, 0:37:42]: Mr. Harris, real quick, the site study and and things that you were discussing. [0:37:42, 0:38:00]: Is that not something like I know that the n Nova came out and did the study in regards to whether or not we you know, would it be feasible to keep the building or, you know, demo uh demolish the building, basically do a demolition. Um will that [0:38:00, 0:38:20]: be something similar that they could do or is it something that we're gonna have to bid out and and where will that fit in the process so we can go ahead and Yeah, I think as soon as we get the demo and everything is complete and removed, then we can immediately go through and start doing a a level one site site survey. Um and we can get a Nova or other geotech firm to come out there and do that work. [0:38:20, 0:38:24]: So that can be done pretty quickly once we get the demo completed and everything removed off the site. [0:38:25, 0:38:29]: Okay. Uh any other comments? Ms. Robinson. [0:38:29, 0:38:40]: I like the idea of Mayor Pro Tem, if you can just send us all a email when that takes place and that will keep us in line actually what you have going on. See if you can't get your sludge hammers as well. [0:38:40, 0:38:41]: Mm. [0:38:41, 0:38:51]: Thank you. We would uh we thank you very much for that. I know in case the audience doesn't understand or people out watching this on television [0:38:52, 0:38:57]: The building is being taken down because it had excessive mould and [0:38:57, 0:39:07]: other things and it was more costly to repair than to take down and start all over again. So this is one of those things, um [0:39:08, 0:39:24]: When we make quick decisions, sometimes they don't turn out so well. So this council is uh taking that all into consideration and making a wise decision to take the building down and move forward from there. So, any other comments about that before we move on? [0:39:26, 0:39:26]: Okay. [0:39:27, 0:39:32]: At this time we're going to discussion items um that [0:39:32, 0:39:39]: The first one is the council discussion to amend the facade ordinance and that is going to be presented by Ms. Gantt. [0:39:40, 0:40:00]: Thank you. Um I don't have the paperwork here um in front of me, but there we have recently adopted a facade ordinance. Um and during the adoption process we actually discussed some of the possibilities that could come up because of that. Currently as a member of the DVA [0:40:00, 0:40:20]: Board, um, we have a facade grant for businesses that are in our downtown development area. Um one of the grant applicants had made a proposal to what we're looking for in the downtown development area is all break facade basically that is um [0:40:20, 0:40:40]: the original brick or very similar so that there's a cohesive look for our downtown area. The ordinance that was put into place that we voted on did not it was broad enough that it did not list particulars such as whether or not it would allow painting of the brick. [0:40:40, 0:41:00]: brick. And we the very first um time we've received um you know facade grant applications and it was suggested when they submitted it in that they wanted to paint the brick. So I would ask that council please consider um and that we um maybe [0:41:00, 0:41:20]: speak to our council, um our city attorney in regards to and I've also forwarded to Mr. Harris and Mr. Williams a copy of Swanee's example of their facade ordinance, um which was very detailed and had charts and, you know, discussed that you can't just paint on brick. So I [0:41:20, 0:41:26]: I think that we need to go ahead and nip that in the bud so we make sure people are you know, if we want that cohesive look. [0:41:27, 0:41:31]: Okay, so um we'll have our attorney speak to that. [0:41:31, 0:41:35]: Uh yes, Madam Mayor. Um we did have the conversation um [0:41:36, 0:41:43]: What you have in your old downtown overlay is a provision that does not allow painted masonry or painted brick. [0:41:43, 0:41:53]: Um we did not include that section in the uh facade requirements that we adopted recently that apply to commercial city wide. [0:41:53, 0:42:06]: That's a relatively easy fix. We'd already had some discussions at the staff level about taking it to the zoning advisory board and and bringing it back and using the following the the standard uh process for amending your zoning code. [0:42:06, 0:42:10]: and we'll bring back their recommendation at an upcoming meeting. [0:42:11, 0:42:16]: Could you speak to the matter if a building was already painted [0:42:17, 0:42:37]: before this ordinance was adopted that that would be grandfathered in rather than making them have to take the paint off their brick. Yes, Mr. Correct. That was one of the um the variances that we just allowed for the Sinoco building because they had a building, an existing building. That was actually cinder block if I if I'm not mistaken. And [0:42:37, 0:42:38]: It's always been painted. [0:42:38, 0:42:41]: So we allowed them to repaint that and refresh that building. [0:42:42, 0:42:48]: Um and so that that is something typically uh buildings would be grandfathered in [0:42:48, 0:42:55]: um unless they made substantial enough renovations to trigger the need to comply with our ordinance. [0:42:55, 0:43:01]: And in that case it would be a requirement for brick and you couldn't paint it depend again unless they came back for a variance. [0:43:02, 0:43:05]: Uh any other comments about that discussion item? [0:43:06, 0:43:13]: Okay, we'll move on to number five. This is council discussion regarding North Henry Boulevard facade grants. [0:43:13, 0:43:17]: Again, uh this one is going to be presented by Councilman Alexander. [0:43:18, 0:43:21]: Uh hello um everyone. Um I think [0:43:21, 0:43:41]: This council uh has been very aggressive in addressing the needs of the city and the wants that we heard from you, particularly myself, uh on the campaign trail. Uh during the campaign trail there was a great uh deal of discomfort with the appearance [0:43:41, 0:43:50]: of North Henry Boulevard and just the overall image that it projects of the city uh was negative. [0:43:51, 0:44:11]: Uh I've also heard from uh existing business owners uh in our city about our desire, particularly mine, uh to uh push economic development uh in terms of bringing in new business. Um this in this instance uh what I was uh want to propose [0:44:11, 0:44:13]: pose is that we expand [0:44:14, 0:44:25]: uh the city's existing facade grant program for downtown to uh include North Henry Boulevard uh in all aspects of in terms of cleaning up the city. [0:44:25, 0:44:28]: Uh existing business owners deserve our help. [0:44:29, 0:44:39]: They do. If there's something that we can do as far as matching uh facade grants for existing business owners along North Henry Boulevard to put in [0:44:39, 0:44:59]: um some additional funding uh in in matching form uh to precipitate some of these business owners to go ahead and uh make improvements to uh their facades. Because when you see those buildings and when you see what you see uh when you drive up and down North Hemory Boulevard [0:44:59, 0:45:01]: [2702.0, 2705.3]: Uh we can do better than that. And as a city [0:45:05, 0:45:15]: We have to endeavor to do better than that and I have heard you as citizens that you want something done about the appearance of North Henry Boulevard. [0:45:15, 0:45:34]: Uh this facade grant program will go a long way towards doing that and part of cleaning it up uh and and in inclusive of uh beautification in the future and partnerships with with the business owners. I just want the existing business owners to know that I have heard you. [0:45:35, 0:45:55]: I have heard you when you said, you know, we we have not uh been as aggressive reaching out to you uh as we have uh in pursuing uh economic development for the city. And let me assure you today that you do not seek the second place to us recruiting new businesses in. So whatever the [0:45:55, 0:46:15]: is it is that we can do uh to enhance your business as who were already stakeholders into the city, uh we want to do that. I want to expand upon um uh what Councilwoman Gantt said earlier in terms of the downtown. Uh we would want to in my opinion [0:46:14, 0:46:30]: opinion it would be wise of us to uh uh put some increased standards in terms of um color choices and um appearance in the city. You know, uh uh right now someone wanted to come and [0:46:30, 0:46:43]: paint the building pink or red or orange or any um you know color that uh we might deem inappropriate, there's generally nothing that we could do about it to stop it. [0:46:44, 0:46:55]: And that's something that we need to address in terms of updating uh the standards uh in terms of the city so that we do have uh [0:46:55, 0:47:15]: requirements in place uh prohibiting if possible legally prohibiting certain colors and actually encouraging or recommending whichever is appropriate uh neutral colors that might fit in with the scheme. And no, as I spoke earlier, um in terms of the downtown [0:47:15, 0:47:29]: Now, you know, if we had we have a fifty percent brick requirement that we just uh passed as a city, uh it would be a shame if we uh continue down the path of allowing people to paint the brick, which [0:47:30, 0:47:30]: Um [0:47:31, 0:47:50]: kinda defeats the purpose of what we're trying to do. Uh there's been some uh concern brought up, you know, in recent months and um in the past years of, you know, just the appearance and and color choices in other cities throughout America where a business owner got upset uh with the city and painted the building pink. [0:47:51, 0:48:11]: You know, we need to make sure that we have steps in place and that we encourage these business owners by not only talking about we want to clean up North Henry Boulevard, by actually partnering with them. Um I had uh actually sent an email out, uh Mr. Don Dunlap, uh the South Bridge Business Association. [0:48:10, 0:48:30]: was um uh uh responded to that and as well uh showed um sent it out to the business owners and it seemed as though uh they were very encouraged and that uh some are here tonight uh and I would think that uh if it was okay with counsel maybe we could uh maybe hear from some of the business owners or Mr. Donald [0:48:30, 0:48:35]: [2916.1, 2917.8]: Thank you. Any comments? [0:48:38, 0:48:38]: Oh. [0:48:39, 0:48:48]: For Tim Ford. Thank you, Mayor. Uh Councilman Alexander, make sure I understand you're talking about North Henry Boulevard from the Walmart all the way east to forty two. [0:48:48, 0:48:50]: Is that the whole length that we're referring to? [0:48:50, 0:49:10]: I'm talking about all of North Henry Boulevard which would encompass you know, right now we just have the downtown overlay. Everything outside of the downtown uh overlay from where w where that ends at on North Henry Boulevard going both ways toward Highway forty two and toward uh I six. [0:49:10, 0:49:12]: seventy five inclusive of all of it. [0:49:12, 0:49:22]: Okay. Uh Mr Harris, and I know our treasurer's here. If we decide to do this, where would this funding come from?'Cause obviously it wasn't budgeted, so I didn't it's just a curiosity question. [0:49:22, 0:49:40]: Yeah, it'd have to be fund balanced, it's not in the budget. Okay. So um you know and I will say, you know, one of the tools that we're currently utilizing is the overlay for one hundred thirty eight, which extends from the western edge on one thirty eight, ties into Clayton County, extending forward to the Krispy Kreme in that area. [0:49:40, 0:49:41]: Um [0:49:42, 0:49:48]: potential conversation is maybe extending the bounds of of of that of that overlay to [0:49:49, 0:49:52]: also add or do a separate one along North Henry as well. [0:49:53, 0:49:56]: Um good that's a tool that's typically used to help govern and [0:49:56, 0:50:04]: and and and and maintain or d or establish a set of d uh development guidelines, you know, within a particular corridor, so [0:50:04, 0:50:06]: That's another option that the council can consider. [0:50:07, 0:50:11]: Could that also come from grant money that the city could apply for? [0:50:11, 0:50:12]: Yeah, perhaps. [0:50:12, 0:50:22]: Yeah, it you know, w see what's out there. You know, there's L C I grants obviously that that uh the city has applied for and received over the years. Um so that's another option that we can certainly get pursuing. [0:50:24, 0:50:31]: Okay, thank you. Um okay, we're going on to item number six, uh council discussion. Um [0:50:31, 0:50:36]: Reconsideration for council districts presented again by Councilman Alexander. [0:50:37, 0:50:37]: Than [0:50:38, 0:50:41]: Ladies and gentlemen, um thank you again and [0:50:43, 0:50:51]: We just want to show you i in terms of myself and my own personal opinion is that we hear you and that [0:50:51, 0:51:00]: In in in this case, we want to be able to speak to you and address the needs and concerns that you all [0:51:00, 0:51:03]: are bringing forth as citizens. [0:51:03, 0:51:23]: Um in my own personal opinion um part of the uh the the disconnect in uh the citizens pushing for the proposed c city of Eagles Landing is that they don't feel as though that they have a uh representative that represents that particular district that they [0:51:23, 0:51:43]: can go to. Because right now we have at large basically every member up here represents the entire city. So it's almost like we have five five additional mayors. When someone comes to me and they says and they say Mr. Alexander the pothole on North Henry Boulevard or the pothole [0:51:43, 0:51:50]: pothole or East Atlanta, who do I go to? Right now they could go to m any person up here. [0:51:51, 0:51:57]: We're talking about accountability. In accountability. When you cast that ballot [0:51:58, 0:52:10]: for District One and you live in District One and you have a concern in District One, you take that to the District One representative, that person [0:52:10, 0:52:20]: lives in the area is representing now the concerns of those citizens that live in that area as a stakeholder themselves. [0:52:20, 0:52:30]: right now with at large voting uh or representation, you know, it's kinda like someone threw that ball up here right now. [0:52:30, 0:52:32]: Each one of us could reach for it. [0:52:33, 0:52:35]: But who does it really go to? [0:52:35, 0:52:43]: It could go to either one of us. We would hope that one of the members of the staff or one of of us would take it and run with it. [0:52:43, 0:52:51]: But uh generally that is part of uh American uh democracy is, you know, w vote for representation. [0:52:51, 0:53:11]: And voting for that representation uh simply means accountability. Um if we developed uh you know su such as the city of McDonough, uh they have districts and they have a combination of at large. So they do have district representation where you could go to the one individual [0:53:11, 0:53:20]: who represents uh that particular area and then they have at large um representatives that run for the entire city. [0:53:21, 0:53:30]: Um and my thinking of how this would work in terms of the city of Stockbridge is that currently we have five members who sit on the council. [0:53:30, 0:53:39]: If we decided to go with uh three districts in the city, we'd have one council member representing each district. [0:53:39, 0:53:59]: And then if we decided and then we'd have two who would remain uh at large. That would you know give you some representation in terms of both as kind of a hybrid system uh where you could do both. You know, in a uh additional option you could add uh an additional council seat [0:53:59, 0:54:19]: and have four districts in the city and then have two at large uh positions as well. But as we set here t as we sit here today, basically what we could have is a northern stock bridge district, a central stock bridge district, and a southern stock bridge district represented by three [0:54:19, 0:54:24]: members of the council who represent those individual districts. [0:54:24, 0:54:36]: Uh as you look at Henry County right now, you know, I think uh y all the commissioners run in districts. They're held accountable for by voters and citizens behind their performance. [0:54:36, 0:54:46]: How do you hold this council right here accountable for our performance in office when we generally represent the entire city? [0:54:46, 0:55:06]: Also what it does is it ensures that individuals are able to uh you know who's doing what and who's accountable for what and who's bringing um you know progress to the city and who is uh actually moving things forward uh in that particular area. You know, I have desire [0:55:06, 0:55:20]: I live uh personally in the southern end of the city at the southernmost side. Of course there are projects that I would like to work on in that particular area. I'm sure I think uh councilwoman Robinson lives in the north side. [0:55:20, 0:55:40]: uh of the city. Those are streets that you drive every single day. I drive the southern side every single day down Jodico and along that route. So of course I'm gonna be more familiar with that and I'm gonna run into citizens along that work along those routes. There have been bills introduced this year in several um [0:55:40, 0:55:49]: municipalities for to just o uh overcome that. Uh the what the last thing that I would uh like to say in terms of this is that [0:55:49, 0:55:53]: One of the reasons that you propose districts is that if you have [0:55:53, 0:56:03]: one or two communities with a lot of homes in those communities. Literally that that one community could dominate the entire city. [0:56:04, 0:56:24]: And in terms of spreading out the vote, what you would do is if you had two people living in that particular community, one could run at large and one could run uh in the district so there wouldn't be any conflict in that. But uh you have seen that in cities around um the state and around the country where we've [0:56:24, 0:56:44]: had in the uh single single neighborhoods with thousand fifteen hundred homes in there, they got together and they were ba able to basically dominate the city and elect all of the officials on the board.'Cause right now we could have five officials in one neighborhood if everybody got together and that one [0:56:44, 0:57:03]: one neighborhood could basically outvote the rest of the city. District representation means accountability and being able to look you all into the eye and say, This we got a problem. We don't have sidewalks uh along flipping road or we don't have sidewalks along Tie Street. [0:57:03, 0:57:15]: I would then be accountable if I'm the representative to get those sidewalks or to move that initiative forward because I represent those citizens that represent that area. Thank you. [0:57:15, 0:57:22]: Thank you. Uh are there any comments? All right. First I heard from Mr. Blount and then we'll go to Pro Tem Ford. [0:57:23, 0:57:27]: First of all, let me just uh say this, is that uh [0:57:27, 0:57:36]: When we look at and we've always talked about an uh council being aggressive and we've always talked about moving forward with different issues. Um when it comes to the city of Eagles Landing [0:57:37, 0:57:38]: The issue hasn't been [0:57:39, 0:57:48]: who's representing them because we've tried to sit at the table with those that are moving the Eagles Landing project uh for a city forward and no one wants to sit at the table. So [0:57:48, 0:57:56]: I don't know how we find out what their true issues are. But one of the issues for this whole city of Stockbridge is that we be good stewards of the city's finances. [0:57:57, 0:57:58]: That's one thing for sure. [0:57:59, 0:58:09]: And so when we start to talk about different areas and different uh uh components of the city, first of all we have to get focused on uh deannexations and annexations to make the city complete. [0:58:09, 0:58:29]: I think it's a little premature at this time to talk about districts when we have no idea what those dynamics are gonna look like right now and we're working on those dynamics. So in this seat I think it's best for us to stay focused and stay moving forward with those annexations, make the city whole and then then move forward and then have those conversations because [0:58:29, 0:58:32]: As of right now, each and every council member that's sitting up here [0:58:32, 0:58:52]: is tasked with the task of uh of working for the people and the citizens of Stockbridge. And that is first of all being good stewards of this of the city's finances. And if we s if we stay in that area then it doesn't matter if we're district or at large. And you have to remember, most cities that are doing districts, they're dealing with squash funds, they're dealing with millage rates. We don't have a [0:58:52, 0:59:05]: a city tax here in the city of Stockbridge. So how can I come and fight for this this district or fight for that area? Where am I pulling the funds from if all we have is operating uh uh operating our budget? [0:59:05, 0:59:20]: So we have to look at all those different components. That's why I said right now to have this discussion is a little premature until we move forward and do the things that we need to focus on doing uh before we talk about districting. We need to focus on being good stewards of the city's money. [0:59:21, 0:59:41]: Thank you. Uh President Pro Tem Ford. Thank you, Mayor. Appreciate it. First of all, I want you to know that uh I think districts are a good thing, uh without a doubt. But for at least two reasons I think we should not do that. And John hit on it, Councilman Blount hit on it. We're working out the annexation piece here, and you can't establish districts until you get the borders of the city. [0:59:41, 1:00:01]: city finalized and solidified and plug in those holes so then you can be able to have proper amount of folks, whether it's commercial and and citizens in those districts and make it fair and equal as best as possible. So w that's the really the first challenge is is to deal with the annexation piece that we excuse me, that we want to do within the city itself. [1:00:01, 1:00:21]: And the second at least the second reason would be the proposed city of Eagles Landing where it's trying to take away or deannex people that are already in the city limits which is unheard of. So that has to be solved first where you can get into districts so you have a a clear defined city limits in in this and it's uh in this uh then once that happens then you're able to break [1:00:21, 1:00:41]: So that would be the first thing to do, to deal with the annexation piece and to deal with this Eagles Landing proposed city piece and get it finalized and to get it solved. And that won't be solved until sometime next year. So this council district discussion it would be probably good next year at this time to be more serious about it because we should have more defined [1:00:40, 1:00:41]: Yeah. [1:00:41, 1:00:45]: uh guidelines of city boundaries at that point. Thank you. [1:00:46, 1:00:48]: Any other comments? Ms. Gantt. [1:00:48, 1:00:49]: Yes. [1:00:50, 1:00:53]: I agree with Councilman Blount and Mayor Pro Tem Ford. [1:00:53, 1:00:56]: Um and I think we've discussed this before. [1:00:56, 1:01:16]: In regards to districts, I I do believe it's premature. I do believe we should consider first making our city map whole. We have a lot of holes to fill in um and one of our goals, one of the things we did was submit down to let uh to the uh legislative um our legislators. We proposed [1:01:16, 1:01:36]: to fill in those gaps in some of the neighborhoods and some of the commercial properties um in order to make Stockbridge hold. You could go out of my neighborhood, I live in Marnar Village and go right across the street, Brentwood, but the next neighborhood is not in the city limits or um in the school or I mean it could [1:01:36, 1:01:56]: be anything. The church is not in the city limits, but one neighborhood is, one neighborhood isn't in and out on Walt Stevens and beyond. And once we fill in those gaps, um we also uh no one's really hit on this and talked about this, but I don't mind just saying it. Um a lot of times uh you hear the [1:01:56, 1:02:16]: good about districts, but you also have negatives about districts. And some of the negatives about districts are people are clearly competing. They're competing for their area. And right now one of our biggest focuses here in the city of Stockbridge is developing our downtown, making something concrete where we have [1:02:16, 1:02:36]: We have um infrastructure, um beautiful buildings. We've talked about beautification, we've talked about um the things that we want here, the splash pads, the ice rinks, the amphitheaters, the community centers, and we also want more jobs. So those things and and things that we're trying to create here um [1:02:36, 1:02:45]: should come first. I think it's a priority and we as a team can work as a whole. When you start dividing up districts at that point, everybody [1:02:45, 1:02:47]: And I I hate to say it, but [1:02:47, 1:02:47]: You know [1:02:48, 1:03:08]: they're looking out for their district. I don't really look at them as though I've read several articles on it and governing and also um urban cities and living well in cities and what I've found is is that a lot of the at-large government entities tend to work towards their common goals and get more achievements. [1:03:08, 1:03:14]: achieved because everyone's pulling for income on w w what they're gonna do for their particular area. So [1:03:15, 1:03:18]: Any other comments? Ms. Robinson? Yes, ma'am. [1:03:18, 1:03:19]: Thank you, Mayor Neal. [1:03:19, 1:03:39]: The good thing about this, it is a discussion item. Um, so we're discussing it now. Um we do have the Eagles Landing that's going on. So with this council, there's something we need to continue to discuss knowing what's going on. I mean, I have reached out to some of the um residents of Eagles Landing. Um it has pieces of [1:03:39, 1:03:59]: no not knowing you know who they can go to. Um it was some different concerns about, you know, the school boards, what schools they're going to. So it's a lot of miscommunication. So by having the discussion it adds to all of the little pieces. So when we do move forward, we're being proactive now. [1:03:59, 1:04:19]: That's how I look at this, because even with districts, I am for it because a lot of times when you're at large, a lot of times you get into the combating of okay, I said it first or this is mine, when it will have accountability because when our citizens, the constituents are out here [1:04:19, 1:04:39]: They do want to know who they need to who they can go to. They want to know right then who is that direct contact and hold that person accountable. So when we do get to that, I'm all for it, whatever it'll take, because at the end we're all going to come common grounds, like you said, Councilwoman Gantt, to do whatever is best for you. [1:04:39, 1:04:59]: for the city so but at the what we need to focus on is what the citizens are saying and I think since this is a discussion we're being proactive so when we do get to that point when we're meeting with Eagles Landing all of those citizens and citizens that are not in Eagles Landing who are also concerned when we start getting into [1:04:59, 1:05:19]: community will be able to identify and explain to them exactly what's going on and that's needs to take place in twenty seventeen as well because we have to get out there to keep them abreast of what's going on because a lot of them aren't in our meetings. So having a discussion, um there's going to be more I know coming from this council [1:05:19, 1:05:23]: Council, we're gonna be having town halls so that way we can discuss further. [1:05:24, 1:05:26]: Thank you. Any other comments? Yes. [1:05:27, 1:05:37]: Mr. Sander. I would just simply like to add, right, I think Councilwoman H Robinson hit the nail on the head. This uh is the beginning of the discussion. [1:05:37, 1:05:56]: And as part of the City of Eagles Landing debate debate, this needs to be included. This needs to be included so uh residents in their area and all areas of the city know clearly defined that they have a representative that they can go to that are looking out for their interests. [1:05:57, 1:06:08]: So it was my endeavor to get this discussion going today so when those dynamics came together that we will be able to include this discussion. [1:06:09, 1:06:29]: uh amongst the council at this point. So when we do sit down uh with the City of Eagles Landing to talk about what they want to do representatives and even the Walt Stevens area or the Jodico area, whoever we sit down with, we could be able to bring to the table to them that [1:06:29, 1:06:33]: district representation is on the table. It's simple. [1:06:33, 1:06:35]: Fifteen seconds. [1:06:35, 1:06:51]: It's about accountability. I I'm accountable to you. I can't duck it. I can't say she, he, he. I can say I. I represent you. If I didn't get it done, I didn't get it done. It's accountability. [1:06:51, 1:06:53]: Thank you. [1:06:54, 1:07:14]: Uh I'm I would like to um ask the council we we've kinda hashed this out, this is a discussion item. If you have something really important to add to this, let's do that. But most everybody's gone over there normal four minutes and I didn't call you on it. Let's air it out. So if you've got something, let's add [1:07:13, 1:07:19]: add that but let's try to be very succinct with our comments and finish this item up. Thank you. [1:07:19, 1:07:21]: Uh Councilman Blount. [1:07:22, 1:07:24]: The spireman is also Mayor. [1:07:25, 1:07:28]: Um one of the things I live in Eagles Landing. [1:07:29, 1:07:33]: Let me tell you I live in Eagles Landing. When I ran for city councilman [1:07:33, 1:07:45]: People to the left of me could not vote for me. People to the right of me could vote for me. In my community. I could go outside of my community, cross Eagles Landing Parkway, go into another community, and they could vote for me. [1:07:45, 1:07:49]: We have a mapping problem here. We have an annexation problem here. [1:07:49, 1:07:52]: And the reason I say it's premature is because of this. [1:07:53, 1:08:13]: When we try to sit at the table to come to a common goal and common grounds on issues, if you got an entity out there that wants to take this city but don't want to sit at the table and tell us there are issues, then I have a problem with that. So when we sit here we continue to say City of Eagles Landing, no no no, it's Stockbridge. [1:08:13, 1:08:23]: matter what you call it, it's Stockbridge. It's Eagles Landing area in Stockbridge. So we're not sitting here saying, Let me get somebody for a district for the city of Eagles Landing. [1:08:23, 1:08:43]: Then what are we doing bringing proponents for something that that we saying we don't want to happen? We want to see the stop bridge to be vibrant as it can be. And that's why I say it's premature to talk about districts and to talk about meetings because as of right now, neither of us that to my knowledge have had a meeting [1:08:43, 1:08:48]: with anyone that are trying to propose a city of Stockbridge. [1:08:49, 1:09:09]: I would um like to make a comment if everybody's into that. I just want to make a comment for clarity. We actually started out on one subject and we ended up on another. We started out talking about council districts and it worked its way over to the um the rumor mill of the the Eagles Landing City. [1:09:09, 1:09:13]: And I want to clarify just a few things for our audience tonight. [1:09:13, 1:09:15]: For all of us to be aware of. [1:09:16, 1:09:22]: There was a piece of legislation introduced this year in the General Assembly at the request of [1:09:23, 1:09:26]: five to six people who live at Eagles Landing. [1:09:26, 1:09:27]: Asking [1:09:27, 1:09:32]: the legislators to put in the legislation that would allow [1:09:32, 1:09:39]: them to go forward looking into the idea of creating a city of Eagles Landing. [1:09:40, 1:09:55]: That bill did not get out of the um committee. It is uh being held and there will be hearings held all over the state of Georgia this summer. And the reason for that is if you stop and think about it [1:09:56, 1:10:16]: If they could do that to us in Stockbridge, they could do that to um they could go to Atlanta and take off the best of Buckhead and all the high end districts and create a city of Buckhead. So we're not in this battle alone. We may feel like we are, but we're not in this battle alone. We're [1:10:16, 1:10:21]: in a battle with every city in the state being on our side. [1:10:22, 1:10:25]: Because they would be just as concerned as us. [1:10:25, 1:10:37]: In number two, we do have a plan of action. Our council has agreed we're hiring a professional lobbying team, some of the best. [1:10:37, 1:10:42]: on Capitol Hill in Georgia to help us construct a plan of action. [1:10:43, 1:10:55]: And that simply means that once we have that meeting with them, which will be next week, we will have a plan of action and we will be out and about speaking to everybody. [1:10:55, 1:10:59]: I like John Blount, um, live in Eagles Landing. [1:11:00, 1:11:03]: And I see people daily. [1:11:04, 1:11:07]: I have not seen one person [1:11:08, 1:11:12]: that gave it a thumbs up for Eagles Landing. Everybody said we like [1:11:13, 1:11:22]: stop bridge. We don't want to do this. So what we need to do is not get kind of in a um a a little [1:11:23, 1:11:37]: competition, what we need to do is work off the facts and work with the instructions that we're going to build with our team that we're going to uh have help us lobby to make sure that we bury that bill [1:11:38, 1:11:42]: permanently next year when the General Assembly comes to town. [1:11:42, 1:11:49]: So if you have questions before you leave tonight, there are position papers that the city has put together. [1:11:50, 1:11:52]: And they're out front, you can pick those up. [1:11:52, 1:11:55]: And right now our treasurer of the city [1:11:55, 1:12:10]: and our city manager are working and we're going to have even more financial facts and you'll probably get some of those um at our town hall meeting that will be coming up two weeks from now. So there's a lot going on but um [1:12:11, 1:12:14]: I don't think tonight that we need to get off on [1:12:14, 1:12:17]: the Eagles landing thing too much, just know that we are [1:12:17, 1:12:37]: We're kind of marching out with a plan soon and um I just wanted to say that so that those people that are sitting in our audience not knowing what are you talking about, um I hope I laid it out so you can understand that. If you have questions, I would direct those to our city manager or either our city attorney who can answer those for you with questions. [1:12:37, 1:12:40]: Clarity. Okay, we have one more item. [1:12:41, 1:12:58]: We have I I have kind of let this thing go own and own. So let's get to the last one. It's a discussion item regarding the city parks and pocket parks as it relates to the city's upcoming comprehensive plan and that will be Councilman Alexander. [1:12:59, 1:13:06]: Y yes. Um you know, one of the things that we're doing uh here or I'm attempting to do tonight is to look into the future. [1:13:07, 1:13:24]: You can't plan for what is right in front of you short term. You have to plan for what's coming down the road. And you know, we've already uh generally agreed that we are going to develop a master plan uh for the city uh in itself. [1:13:24, 1:13:44]: One of the things that we want to make sure that are encompassed in that in that master plan are the city uh green spaces and park areas. Uh all cities of this size uh genuinely have been moving forward with uh green space protection and parts. [1:13:44, 1:13:48]: You know, the city of McDonough's moving forward with Alexander Park. [1:13:49, 1:14:09]: Excuse me. The City of McDonald's moving together uh with Alexander Park, uh they're moving forward with Big Springs Park, uh the park at Avalon. Uh Commissioner Bruce Holmes has moved forward with a magnificent uh village park up in north uh Henry County. Uh it's a it's a marvel just to go up and take a look at it. [1:14:09, 1:14:20]: uh a city this size as the city of Startbridge, uh we need to make sure that that uh those pocket parks are planned out. Um last year when we set down [1:14:20, 1:14:40]: And we uh went over at our retreat, we identified several areas in terms of pocket parks, uh maybe um in the Jodico area uh or in South Stock Bridge, or we also identified area uh in the Walt Stevens area itself and many areas in the city that we already [1:14:40, 1:15:00]: talked about and discussed, but an overall plan of protecting those green spaces in cities. Because what generally happens is is that without foresight or without planning, as we know the real estate market has rebounded tremendously. The price of putting that [1:14:59, 1:15:01]: [4502.0, 4522.0]: and acquiring said properties are lower now. Should we wait into the future where the development and density increases the square foot of how much these um or the acreage would cost, it could cost the city double in the in the next ten years or the next fifteen years to secure those properties. [1:15:21, 1:15:38]: properties when if we p when we put our comprehensive plan together uh we identified areas now uh that we want to preserve and that we set a policy that we're going to reserve certain amount of space for green spaces and parks. [1:15:38, 1:15:52]: All great cities, all great cities do this, maintain this and secure this, uh for the right of the city. We have you know, we have Clark Park, we have Memorial Park, we have municipal park. [1:15:52, 1:16:02]: I say today that I want to raise the bar on the parks in Stockbridge. Our parks, to me, in my own personal opinion, they're adequate. [1:16:02, 1:16:22]: They're not the uh uh we could we need to raise the bar on what we expect. And I think in North Henry County, Commissioner Holmes has raised the bar to the level that we deserve uh parks and recs on that level uh for our citizens to do something very special for them. [1:16:22, 1:16:42]: And also as we attempt to put the city together uh with the annexations and everything uh that we're attempting to do, we want to make sure that all of the citizens are represented equally and they have a part or pocket part in their part of the city that is maintained and that we guarantee that. [1:16:42, 1:16:50]: Okay, Mr Alexander, thank you. Any other uh comments on that discussion item? If not, we'll move to the one [1:16:50, 1:16:52]: You have a comment? Yes, ma'am. [1:16:53, 1:17:05]: Um what I'd like to say is that yes, we discussed this and um pocket parks, green space for the city, for the citizens is a good idea, a good thing. It's uh it's not a higher priority right now. The higher priority I believe is that [1:17:05, 1:17:10]: is to handle things and develop our downtown area but as we look at the comprehensive plan itself [1:17:10, 1:17:30]: and those neighborhoods and and things and identify uh pieces of land we can look at uh how we can uh pr you know prioritize that and uh figure out how we can fund something like that and might we get a good price. I'm in favor of those type of things but I also wanna uh keep in mind that our higher priority when it comes to that is really our downtown area. Now I don't want us to lose focus [1:17:30, 1:17:31]: Focus on that. [1:17:31, 1:17:36]: Um so and as we work through the comprehensive plan we can keep this in mind as well as those pocket parts. [1:17:37, 1:17:40]: that a aspect. But uh anyway, just wanna mention that. Thank you. [1:17:41, 1:17:43]: Any other comments? [1:17:43, 1:17:51]: If not, we're gonna move on to the uh agenda item eight that we added in which regard is regarding um [1:17:51, 1:17:57]: the public information officer position and that will be presented by I assume our city manager. [1:17:58, 1:17:58]: Is that [1:17:59, 1:18:01]: Are we gonna present that item are we gonna discuss it? [1:18:02, 1:18:03]: Just discussing. [1:18:03, 1:18:05]: All right. Is that your item? [1:18:05, 1:18:11]: Okay. All right. That's uh John Blount. Sorry, I didn't mean to um ignore that fact. [1:18:11, 1:18:13]: Um so comments from [1:18:14, 1:18:15]: Councilman John Want. [1:18:15, 1:18:35]: I wanted this um item placed on the agenda because we have a position open that uh we need to asset to assist the uh mayor and council. And one of the things that we all agreed on is that we had to uh formulate uh some dynamics that was in the uh job description for the assistance to mayor and council. Uh one of the things that [1:18:35, 1:18:40]: things that became conflictual is the uh duties of that position. [1:18:40, 1:19:00]: And one of the things that would to w would uh help that position is that we would hire a PIO officer that would be in charge of all the uh uh um media and web si uh things dealing with the website and uh picture taking and all of these things. Um I I think is a much needed uh position. [1:19:00, 1:19:18]: I had asked our uh human resource uh uh person, Miss Renee Wheeler, to uh come and uh give us a uh a quick overview of how important that position is right now before even hiring a uh a um uh assistant to mayor and counsel, if she would. [1:19:19, 1:19:20]: Be so car. [1:19:33, 1:19:40]: I can give you a copy of the um it's a draft job description that was put together for the uh PIO position. [1:19:48, 1:19:50]: Pani Przewodnicząca. [1:19:58, 1:20:00]: Well, it's true be a draft. [1:20:01, 1:20:05]: of what um are some of the duties and responsibilities [1:20:05, 1:20:08]: um that would take place of a public information officer. [1:20:09, 1:20:12]: Communications specialist communications um [1:20:13, 1:20:20]: coordinator or whatever we the title might end up becoming once we hash out what the essential duties and responsibilities are. [1:20:21, 1:20:28]: Um in this position what we've talked about is that this position would be the spokesperson uh for the city for the city. [1:20:29, 1:20:30]: In conjunction with the city manager. [1:20:31, 1:20:32]: Um that person would [1:20:33, 1:20:34]: Um [1:20:34, 1:20:35]: Basically [1:20:36, 1:20:40]: Ам, хандлір прес релиз, юр авізоріз, незлез. [1:20:40, 1:20:42]: maintained the city's website. [1:20:42, 1:20:43]: Um [1:20:45, 1:20:47]: And things of that nature. Work with the branding firm. [1:20:47, 1:20:50]: when we get ready to develop the marketing strategies. [1:20:51, 1:20:54]: um for the city and coordinate any type of um [1:20:54, 1:20:58]: programs or projects that are public relation endeavors. [1:20:58, 1:21:00]: Um so that person would basically [1:21:01, 1:21:04]: be your spokesperson, be a person out front. [1:21:04, 1:21:08]: um getting the message out to the community based on what the city is doing. [1:21:10, 1:21:11]: Yeah. [1:21:11, 1:21:18]: Okay. Uh comments? Council Robinson. Yes. Um since our HR is here, I just wanna just [1:21:19, 1:21:20]: Touch on this. [1:21:21, 1:21:41]: This is a similar to the same qualifications that we have for our executive assistant. And um as explained, you know, um on here on the second page it says, you know, in quote performs other duties as it as assigned. So with that being stated, I mean that would entail whatever individual can [1:21:41, 1:21:44]: council person required at that time, is that correct? [1:21:45, 1:21:46]: Well [1:21:48, 1:21:49]: It could or it could not. [1:21:50, 1:21:53]: The public information officer is strictly a [1:21:53, 1:21:55]: position and reports to the city manager. [1:21:56, 1:21:57]: and as the spokesperson for the city. [1:21:58, 1:21:59]: So it's not going to be [1:22:00, 1:22:10]: Similar to the executive assistant position at all. What what I was I'm sorry, I don't mean I'm saying for is the duties, not for as the reporting, but it just says [1:22:10, 1:22:21]: the quote for as the performs. So they're totally different um positions'cause like executive assistant to counsel reported to us but it still had that same [1:22:22, 1:22:42]: quote here. Right. So that's why I just wanted to be clear because that was on the duties as well. So of course this would be through the city manager or whoever they're reporting to that that's what that states. So whatever the the duties specific of that, you know, the city manager may have, it would be the same that [1:22:42, 1:22:47]: you know, dealt with counsel individually to our executive assistant. [1:22:47, 1:22:48]: Correct. [1:22:48, 1:22:52]: Yeah, in in a way, yeah, because we had that in in her job description. [1:22:52, 1:22:54]: Well in that in that job description. [1:22:54, 1:22:58]: as well as in all job descriptions, perform other duties as assigned. [1:22:58, 1:23:05]: because there may be other duties that may take place that you may have to perform, but normally they're within the context of your [1:23:05, 1:23:08]: your your skills and abilities of the job that you're currently doing. [1:23:10, 1:23:23]: Yes. And that's the point I was going to make. That is kind of a catch-all that typically there are always going to be duties outside the s specific scope of anyone's um exact job description. But I think what's critical here is that [1:23:24, 1:23:44]: Um in particular for the executive assistant position. I know we're talking about the PIO, but but certainly from the executive assistant to make sure that there is a clear understanding of exactly what the expectations of that position are. Because what you don't want to do, you don't want to, you know, to avoid the redundancy and the overlap. Um right now we have a lot of things that are being done by committee quite. [1:23:44, 1:23:48]: quite frankly. And so I think trying to be specific on on what the [1:23:48, 1:23:51]: majority of their functions will be [1:23:51, 1:23:55]: 'Cause even you know, we've had the discussion about this job description, maybe whittling it down some [1:23:56, 1:24:16]: Um so there's st is still some tweaking that we're looking at making on it, but um I think I think there's obviously going to be some coordination between those two positions. Um certainly I think we have a clear understanding on the PIO's position on what their functions would be, um but I think it will be important going forward for the council to make sure that the council collects [1:24:16, 1:24:26]: collectively has a clear set of expectations and understanding of what that executive assistant, what their role would be, um what the majority of their their their primary roles would be. [1:24:28, 1:24:31]: All right. Uh question from uh Councilman Alexander. [1:24:32, 1:24:52]: Uh yes, Miss Wheeler. Uh while we got you up here, I appreciate that information. I think this council has had discussions uh concerning this. We had it in uh in uh during our budgetary discussions, in terms of uh being good stewards of the citizens' money, uh in terms of a line item, uh in terms of benefits. [1:24:52, 1:24:56]: It's salary, um what is the dollar amount? [1:24:57, 1:25:17]: that we can expect uh by creating this position uh would would it create? And the i the issue that I had with it um last year is that I'm for uh doing something in this aspect, but we prioritize the economic development director and the community director because they [1:25:17, 1:25:20]: brought revenue to the city. Is there anything [1:25:21, 1:25:41]: uh this definitely is not revenue neutral because of the costs uh that are gonna be involved with it. So can you talk about the with benefits and with uh the salary amount, how uh what it would cost and then uh possibly as I said uh you know maybe the issue [1:25:41, 1:25:47]: [5147.8, 5149.8]: Well it depends on um [1:25:50, 1:25:53]: Once the position is finally crafted and [1:25:53, 1:25:54]: We've come up with [1:25:54, 1:25:56]: Exactly what it is that the [1:25:56, 1:26:08]: position will be doing on what the city's needs are for this particular position, you can look upwards to maybe forty two to fifty thousand dollars. The starting salary would be forty two, so once you start adding [1:26:08, 1:26:10]: benefits, you're talking about maybe another [1:26:11, 1:26:13]: Fifteen hundred dollars. [1:26:14, 1:26:17]: fifteen thousand dollars added to the position. [1:26:19, 1:26:39]: Okay. And a and as far as we're doing that, and I think maybe the city manager could speak to it. As we were going on and we were kinda prioritizing things, like I said, I'm not against having a PIO officer, but in terms of the priorities of having uh a PIO officer adding, I guess rough math, maybe about sixty thousand dollars. [1:26:39, 1:26:54]: dollars to the budget or maybe a little bit more at that point. Um some of the things that we're talking about doing, how does it fit into the grand scale of the Economic Development Director and all those positions that we've that we have added and that we've agreed upon? [1:26:56, 1:26:57]: Yeah, I I think you know [1:26:58, 1:27:06]: The the the function of this position would be principally, you know, and I and I've said this over and over again, you know, this this has been a very aggressive council. [1:27:06, 1:27:23]: And there's a lot of things that are going on, there's a lot of information to try and disseminate, um, a lot of events that have taken place and you know, right now, you know, it's far different than uh what than what it was four or five years ago, most certainly, even three years ago for that matter. Um so [1:27:23, 1:27:29]: based on the the demands of the council, we're looking at positions that can help [1:27:29, 1:27:32]: address those comm those demands. Um [1:27:33, 1:27:35]: The everyday work for [1:27:37, 1:27:43]: Ms. Wheeler, Finance, myself, I mean our the things we have to do throughout the course of the day. Um [1:27:44, 1:28:04]: Those are full time. You know, so e every time we have projects or special events that come up, those are ancillary to what our what our what our normal everyday functions are. Um and because there's been so many trying to keep pace with the advertising, the um promoting of um uh the the the pictures and everything that goes along with that, that [1:28:04, 1:28:10]: That's why the conversation initially started with the PIO. [1:28:10, 1:28:30]: I think there'd be obviously a lot of coordination between them and the community development director, Main Street, um economic development as new businesses are coming on board. But a lot of it is gonna be, you know, as stated, the dissemination of information. Um the newsletter that's currently being done by uh Ms. I [1:28:30, 1:28:50]: the executives and to the city manager. Um but I think that's something those are those tasks that they would t be able to take over and they'd be able to assume certainly. Um so again a lot of coordination from a staff level, certainly just like we have right now, I mean as a staff we meet on a you know every couple of weeks and it's not a day goes by that we don't all have interaction in some way, shape or form. Um [1:28:50, 1:28:56]: But again, I think just having a very detailed and distinct, clear understanding of what their function is [1:28:57, 1:29:17]: And then it becomes a matter of what does council even want to do with that executive position if if all those functions w are going to be lopped into what this position would w would have. I think historically when you think about an executive assistant to mayor and council, it's far more administrative than what they're doing. And I think um because there were so many [1:29:16, 1:29:19]: events, things that were taking place. Um [1:29:20, 1:29:29]: there was less focus on the administrative side and more focus on the promotions and and the event side, quite frankly. So looking at a way of trying to [1:29:29, 1:29:32]: create a a clear line of demarcation between the two. [1:29:32, 1:29:52]: Uh I'll follow up just briefly. Now so the public at large understands this position. This position is kinda like the press secretary for the White House, maybe uh Sean Spicer or R. Flasher or somebody like that. That is what to disseminate information to the public, uh correct. So [1:29:52, 1:30:05]: Yeah, it's a fairly common position that a number of municipalities maintain, um public information officer, communications director, it's termed a couple of different ways, but there's a number of jurisdictions, another municipalities um [1:30:06, 1:30:26]: adjacent to us up on the northern side on the southern parts that that that maintain this position for that role. Um you know we've pulled some we've looked at job um descriptions from a number of other jurisdictions and trying to craft it to what we feel is in our best interest. So it's it's what you have there and we're still kinda we're still massaging is [1:30:26, 1:30:44]: is is a you know bit of a hybrid from a number of other jurisdictions because again we are not Milton, Alpharetta or anywhere else. We are Stockbridge. And so we are unique in the things that we do and in the manner in which we want to present the information. So we want to make sure that our approach is unique to the things that we are doing. [1:30:44, 1:30:54]: So that's been the um the the the the work that we've been trying to put in as far as crafting a uh a job description that meets what we feel is to be the desires of the council. [1:30:55, 1:31:08]: Okay, we're gonna move on. I believe Pro Tem Ford has come in. Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate it. Uh Mike, I just want to make sure I believe that I got this right. But this even though we talked about this position, this position is currently not budgeted. Is that correct? [1:31:10, 1:31:30]: Correct. Well I thought. So w so w we would have to take it out of fund balance to fund it for the rest of the year provided we go down this road. All right. So we have a draft job description in front of us. What do you need from us? You need us to look at that, get feedback back? Because I would think I would like to go forward with this. I don't know what quite sure what the council wants to do, and maybe they want to go forward this [1:31:30, 1:31:31]: Yeah. [1:31:32, 1:31:52]: Yeah, I mean I think if if there's specifics in regards to the job description we could certainly like to get your input as soon as possible. You know, it would come forward and and we're doing the the town hall update meeting at the next meeting we will be in um contemplating potential budget amendments at that time. That would be the opportunity to [1:31:52, 1:32:08]: So you would possibly if we wanna have any updates, give updates to Rene uh on this and input and then we can look forward to a b uh budget amendment on this job for us to review to approve or disapprove counts on the twenty fifth. That's correct. [1:32:09, 1:32:09]: All right. [1:32:10, 1:32:10]: Thank you. [1:32:11, 1:32:31]: Comments. Okay, Miss Gann. Um I'm thank you, Councilman Blount, for bringing this to our attention. We've been discussing a PIO officer for quite some time now. Um and a PIO officer is just not uh someone as far as I'm concerned who is uh uh you know, releasing statements in regards to the city. [1:32:31, 1:32:51]: A PIO officer helps to brand the city. It's helping us uh create and get the word out as one city, one voice. Um and I think it's an excellent idea. Um I know that we initially had it in our budget. I was the chair of the finance committee, um, and then we [1:32:51, 1:33:11]: um had to reduce cost from the budget. And now we and we agreed that once we had some transactions completed as well as once we um revisited amending our budget, which should be coming up soon, um we should have a quarterly yeah, okay. Yeah, twenty fifth. [1:33:11, 1:33:26]: um that we would then amend our budget to include those items that we reduced and take and had to take out at the time. So I um I know that it's one of our top on our list of to-dos and um I just want to thank Councilman Blount for bringing that back up to us. [1:33:27, 1:33:29]: Any other comments about that subject? [1:33:29, 1:33:33]: Just for clarity, uh at the very next meeting on the twenty fifth, [1:33:34, 1:33:34]: Um [1:33:35, 1:33:55]: they keep referencing the town hall meeting. There will be a town hall meeting and there will be our first quarter uh update on our finances and at that time if our finances are strong um that's how things get amended into the budget. Sometimes it's called a mid year adjustment, but in our [1:33:54, 1:34:00]: um situation we're gonna do it quarterly so we'll do that at our next meeting. [1:34:01, 1:34:02]: Thank you, Ms. [1:34:02, 1:34:04]: Thank you, Ms. Wheeler. [1:34:04, 1:34:12]: Um and reminding the council if you have comments about this and you want to get'em back to Miss Wheeler, get'em back to her. ASAP. [1:34:12, 1:34:13]: Okay? [1:34:13, 1:34:14]: Everybody good? [1:34:14, 1:34:17]: All right. Okay. Um [1:34:18, 1:34:27]: I believe uh at this point um we'll have comments from our city manager followed by brief comments from our city council. [1:34:27, 1:34:28]: No camera. [1:34:29, 1:34:33]: No comments. Okay. All right, we'll start with Mr. Alexander if you have more comments to make. [1:34:34, 1:34:39]: I always have more comments to make. [1:34:39, 1:34:55]: Well, I just will always thank I never take for granted the citizens that come out and partake in the process and I always thank you so much and all the feedback that I've been getting from all over the city about the improvements. It shows that people care. [1:34:56, 1:35:16]: I love it when I hear from citizens and you telling me, we know, Mr. Alexander, can we do this? So what do you think about that? That is the way that we build the city together collectively. So continue with the feedback and continue to support this council and we trying to move the city forward uh aggressively. So I appreciate everything that you all you all do. [1:35:16, 1:35:18]: [5719.4, 5720.4]: Councilman Blount. [1:35:21, 1:35:25]: God bless you. God bless the city of Stock Bridge. God bless America. Thanks for coming. [1:35:27, 1:35:28]: Uh Councilman Ford. [1:35:29, 1:35:31]: Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate that. Um [1:35:32, 1:35:35]: Citizens I want you to know that everybody in the council is wearing blue. [1:35:36, 1:35:38]: And to include the city manager and attorney. [1:35:39, 1:35:45]: Folks in the audience wearing blue of course because aut support autism month and the uh prevent child abuse month, the month of April. [1:35:46, 1:35:59]: So I encourage you to wear blue as much as you can during the c month of April to support these two uh particular uh uh activities or events there. Uh also like to tell you happy Easter. Hopefully you had a a good Palm Sunday. [1:36:00, 1:36:05]: and uh have an outstanding good Friday and of course the city i is going to be closed on that day. [1:36:06, 1:36:21]: Uh so enjoy your activities, uh religiously that is, and continue to keep faith uh with us, the council, as we continue to work through the issues and do the cities uh the cities or the people's work here in the city of Stockbridge. God bless you all. [1:36:23, 1:36:24]: Housewoman Gamp. [1:36:24, 1:36:44]: Um I just want to thank everyone for coming out today. On May eleventh at five thirty um at the Merrill Manders Conference Center, we'll be having our m the third annual nonprofit mixer. Um it is a great time for all the nonprofits in the community in Henry County to get together. [1:36:44, 1:37:04]: We will have a keynote speaker to discuss with nonprofits the opportunities and different grants that are available. We will also have tables available for those nonprofits and we will invite the community out. We're hoping that nonprofits can there are a lot of nonprofits in the area. We're hoping that they can collaborate together. [1:37:04, 1:37:24]: um and get together sometimes. You may have one person who's giving out clothes and another person who's giving out food. Or you have different church organizations and mentorship programs and it's just a really good time and very educational. Feel free to email me on my city email address if you're interested. [1:37:24, 1:37:31]: interested in it or if you know anyone um that's interested, flyers should be going out soon. Thank you and have a great evening. [1:37:31, 1:37:33]: Councilwoman Robinson. [1:37:33, 1:37:34]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:37:34, 1:37:54]: Um I just wanted to touch base on the Georgia Georgia Cities Week activities that we're gonna have here in Stockbridge. The mayor's probably gonna mention it later, but I wanted to definitely talk about Friday, April the twenty eighth. We're gonna have unity in the community. Actually this is gonna be the sec second annual event. [1:37:54, 1:38:14]: Which is going to be a basketball game between our public safety and the high school seniors that are inside the city limits of Stockbridge to show unity in the community with our youth. And it's going to be held at Stockbridge High School on that Friday, the twenty eighth, at six PM. So we're inviting everyone to please, please, please come. [1:38:14, 1:38:22]: come out. There's flyers out in the foyer, so we would love to have your support um for the young people during um Cities Week. [1:38:23, 1:38:43]: And also wanted to um looking at our agenda um and I do want to apologize to everyone but on our work session I will not be in attendance um because we're gonna do our first quarter update. I had prior engagements, I will be out of the country. So I just know my colleagues, they're gonna definitely um unite and [1:38:43, 1:38:55]: and do the right thing for our citizens. So um I just wanted to let everyone know that, um, so that way when you see that I'm absent on that day, um, everyone would know that I will definitely be out of the country. Thank you. [1:38:56, 1:39:16]: All right. Um at this time uh if all of you picked up an agenda as you came in the room, I want you to flip over to that back page and there are all kind of announcements about upcoming city meetings and events and remind you you can always go to the website to pick up um any instructions about uh [1:39:16, 1:39:17]: Um [1:39:17, 1:39:18]: When to meet the [1:39:18, 1:39:31]: And also if you'll go to the website and sign up, you will automatically be notified about anything that you want to be notified about. You can check off the box. So that is a great uh tool the city has. [1:39:31, 1:39:35]: And also I want to remind everyone [1:39:35, 1:39:55]: If you're visual when you drive through the streets of Stockbridge and you see something that's unsightly, to call that in to the city hall and we will have that message just shot right over uh to our public works department or to our code enforcement and we will take care of that. Our goal is to be a beautiful [1:39:55, 1:39:58]: clean city and we need you to help us do that. [1:39:58, 1:40:02]: At this time if there is nothing else on [1:40:02, 1:40:03]: This um [1:40:04, 1:40:10]: agenda at the moment. We are now going to go to executive session. Our attorney will speak to that. [1:40:11, 1:40:18]: Yes, ma'am, we would need uh a motion to go into executive session for litigation, personnel and real estate. [1:40:18, 1:40:19]: Some [1:40:20, 1:40:22]: All right. We've had um um [1:40:23, 1:40:33]: Okay. The motion was made by Councilman Alexander, the second to go into executive session by Pro Tem Ford. Um is there any discussion? [1:40:34, 1:40:36]: No discussion. All in favour? [1:40:38, 1:40:43]: All right, if you all would excuse us, we'll be gone a few minutes and hopefully we'll get back before too long. [1:49:09, 1:49:17]: So um [1:49:19, 1:49:29]: But see what I'm saying. [1:49:35, 1:49:37]: Yeah, [1:49:37, 1:49:43]: Something's happening. [1:49:51, 1:50:10]: So you call. I'll be hot. Maybe thank you. [1:51:30, 1:51:32]: Yeah, you know, yeah. [1:52:20, 1:52:27]: Okay, uh [1:52:45, 1:52:54]: I don't know why you wouldn't do that. [1:53:00, 1:53:10]: Yeah, and then [1:53:15, 1:53:25]: Yeah, uh [1:53:30, 1:53:50]: [6830.0, 6849.9]: Oh yeah, uh you're a report. [1:54:12, 1:54:15]: [6860.0, 6875.0]: So I mean that's what I mean. [1:54:35, 1:54:55]: Yeah, but that you don't go to the back. [1:54:55, 1:55:15]: I I I don't know, I think we gotta go back and then uh move it to uh maybe have one. [1:55:14, 1:55:24]: [6926.0, 6940.4]: Well you walk over it. Oh no, yeah. [1:55:41, 1:55:45]: Very much. [1:55:56, 1:55:57]: Yeah. [1:56:00, 1:56:20]: [6980.0, 6993.5]: And it's probably used to someone who starts or [1:56:38, 1:56:58]: That's a really good thing. I don't know about the course of your mind. [1:56:58, 1:57:15]: [7037.8, 7057.8]: [1:57:37, 1:57:49]: Um here so [1:57:53, 1:58:12]: [7093.4, 7113.4]: [1:58:33, 1:58:47]: [7128.3, 7139.1]: Who then? Yeah, I'm going to be able to sometimes [1:59:10, 1:59:30]: And you guys are talking about it. [1:59:30, 1:59:38]: I don't think that's the one that's a good thing. [1:59:39, 1:59:48]: [7198.3, 7201.9]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [2:00:03, 2:00:10]: So anyway, I wouldn't really decide how to run the hair. [2:00:10, 2:00:30]: If that would be set that it's not everything. [2:00:30, 2:00:37]: Oh yeah, yeah. [2:00:42, 2:01:02]: [7261.9, 7265.0]: Oh [2:01:06, 2:01:18]: Wow, [2:01:19, 2:01:32]: [7310.7, 7320.5]: Well that's one of the opportunities. [2:02:01, 2:02:21]: [7341.8, 7350.3]: [2:02:40, 2:02:53]: [7410.0, 7423.0]: [2:03:45, 2:03:53]: [7436.3, 7446.0]: [2:04:09, 2:04:11]: Oh yeah, yeah. [2:04:36, 2:04:44]: Oh yeah. [2:04:58, 2:05:05]: Excellent. [2:05:39, 2:05:46]: I mean the battle is probably going to make it all. [2:05:54, 2:05:59]: Yeah, that's it. [2:06:05, 2:06:09]: How's the bottom of the [2:06:09, 2:06:10]: [7574.2, 7577.6]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [2:06:29, 2:06:36]: [7597.0, 7601.4]: Then we'll let that [2:06:43, 2:06:46]: But [2:06:47, 2:06:56]: Thank you. [2:06:57, 2:06:58]: Oh [2:07:10, 2:07:12]: [7647.9, 7650.4]: Oh. [2:07:32, 2:07:52]: And then I think the very very good protocol. [2:07:52, 2:08:01]: [7684.5, 7698.8]: Well it's not a good one. I don't think that's right. [2:08:19, 2:08:25]: How certainly uh [2:12:00, 2:12:20]: Oh. Oh, come on. Thank you. Oh, that's very good. [2:12:20, 2:12:22]: Very poor. [2:19:10, 2:19:11]: [10513.1, 10514.6]: Yeah. [2:55:19, 2:55:22]: So what was that? [2:55:23, 2:55:29]: Is that an American? No. Okay. [2:55:30, 2:55:35]: I think you've always had in your own um piece. [2:55:36, 2:55:40]: Kind of search forward and then fail. [3:00:56, 3:01:04]: Yeah. Well I have uh head and I don't know. [3:01:07, 3:01:22]: So um I think I guess that's the um [3:01:24, 3:01:29]: So uh I can do that on the last time. [3:01:32, 3:01:36]: I'll just forget. [3:01:36, 3:01:41]: Oh, you got the man? [3:01:42, 3:01:43]: Okay. [3:01:45, 3:01:47]: But [3:01:56, 3:02:03]: Well number four. [3:02:19, 3:02:22]: All right, would you mind just stepping in there and asking them to come on? [3:02:23, 3:02:24]: Oh, they're just talking. [3:02:41, 3:02:46]: [10967.5, 10971.3]: [3:03:11, 3:03:12]: Pani Przewodnicząca. [3:03:20, 3:03:21]: [11001.8, 11010.0]: Oh thanks. We're back in s session. I need a motion to end the executive session. O'Neill. [3:03:30, 3:03:30]: Okay. [3:03:31, 3:03:35]: Robinson. Second. Second by Pro Tem Ford. [3:03:36, 3:03:38]: Do I have any discussion on ending that? [3:03:40, 3:03:41]: No discussion. All in favor? [3:03:44, 3:03:53]: Right, we don't have anything to vote on, so at this time I need a motion to end the council meeting. No ma'am, we've got to we gotta enter back in to the council. [3:03:53, 3:04:00]: Reconvene. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Didn't reconvene. Okay, I need a motion to reconvene. [3:04:00, 3:04:04]: A second. I need a second and I got that done. [3:04:05, 3:04:07]: I got the second from Miss Gantt. [3:04:08, 3:04:10]: And do is there any discussion? [3:04:11, 3:04:12]: If not [3:04:13, 3:04:14]: All in favour? [3:04:15, 3:04:20]: Now I need a m a motion to end the council meeting tonight. Do I have a motion? [3:04:20, 3:04:22]: [11063.5, 11068.0]: President Pro Gem Ford and I think I heard a second from Mr uh Blount. [3:04:28, 3:04:30]: Is there any discussion? [3:04:31, 3:04:32]: If not, all in favor. [3:04:33, 3:04:35]: Okay. We are adjourned. [3:04:36, 3:04:37]: Okay.

--- title: March 28 2017 Work Session Meeting date: 2017-03-28 source: 2017-03-28_March_28_2017_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:20, 0:00:27]: Yeah, so we're just gonna [0:00:30, 0:00:32]: Well, [0:00:38, 0:00:41]: [ 60.0, 65.4]: [0:01:10, 0:01:13]: Panie Przewodniczący. [0:01:14, 0:01:19]: It is six o'clock. We're gonna get started with our meeting and um [0:01:19, 0:01:32]: If we could at this time, I'm gonna call the meeting to order and I'm going to invite up Reverend Jacqueline Rose Tucker from Red Oak United Methodist Church and she's gonna bless us with an invitation this evening. [0:01:36, 0:01:42]: And after she finishes, uh we have a scout group in our audience that came to um [0:01:43, 0:01:51]: be a part of our uh program tonight and they are gonna come up and uh lead us in our pledge of the flag to the flag flag. Thank you. [0:01:52, 0:01:55]: This looks like church, folks sitting in the back. [0:01:55, 0:01:56]: Yeah. [0:01:56, 0:01:57]: Let us pray. [0:01:58, 0:02:02]: Dear gracious Lord, we are honored to be in your presence tonight. [0:02:03, 0:02:08]: We're so thankful that we have a country and a system. [0:02:09, 0:02:11]: That recognizes that we can do nothing without you. [0:02:13, 0:02:16]: And so, Lord, as we are reminded of who we are and whose we are, [0:02:17, 0:02:25]: We are reminded of the politic that which means the public affairs, the work of the people, shrewdness, business minded. [0:02:25, 0:02:30]: But always understanding to whom much is given, much is required. [0:02:30, 0:02:32]: And so we pray for this session together. [0:02:33, 0:02:39]: that it would be a time of like mindedness and if we agr disagree, we agree to disagree. [0:02:40, 0:02:44]: But let it all be to your glory and for the people. [0:02:45, 0:02:47]: And all of God's people said [0:02:47, 0:02:48]: Amen. [0:02:48, 0:02:49]: Yeah. [0:02:49, 0:02:54]: Now if we could have our scouts come up and lead us uh in our pledge to the flag. [0:03:04, 0:03:06]: Oh we up here, okay. [0:03:15, 0:03:16]: [200.1, 205.7]: Somehow face the flag. Some of the flag. Someone face it flag. [0:03:27, 0:03:41]: Under God individual with liberty and justice for all. [0:03:41, 0:03:44]: How much? [0:03:50, 0:03:54]: At this time we're gonna ask our clerk, Vanessa Holliday, to call the role. [0:03:56, 0:04:01]: Councilman Alexander Councilman Blount. Present. Mayor Neal. [0:04:01, 0:04:05]: Present. Mayor Pro Tem Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:04:07, 0:04:14]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. Councilwoman Robinson. Present. Mayor Neal, you have a quorum. [0:04:15, 0:04:22]: Do we have a motion to adopt the agenda or do we have any uh items to be added to the agenda? [0:04:23, 0:04:23]: Yeah. [0:04:23, 0:04:43]: Yes. I'd like to make a uh amendment to the agenda that uh uh I have a City of Stockbridge proposal excuse me, uh one Henry proposal for the City of Stockbridge for Entrepreneur Event in conjunction with the Advanced Technology Development Center, which is ATDC, and the technology [0:04:43, 0:04:49]: Association of Georgia, which is called a TAG and one Henry Economic Alliance for discussion this evening. [0:04:51, 0:04:55]: Each of you have a proposal in front of you that was issued to me uh just yesterday actually. [0:04:57, 0:05:04]: Do you want to amend the agenda? I want to amend the agenda that we add this under the discussion phase. It probably should be item number seven, I believe. [0:05:04, 0:05:12]: Okay, we have a motion and by um Pro Tem Ford and a second by Councilman Alexander. All in favor? [0:05:14, 0:05:14]: Thank you. [0:05:16, 0:05:24]: At this time we're going to review minutes, several sets of minutes, one from um February ninth. [0:05:25, 0:05:28]: Another set from february tenth. [0:05:29, 0:05:34]: February thirteenth, February twentieth, and february twenty eighth. [0:05:35, 0:05:38]: Do I hear a motion to accept the minutes? [0:05:38, 0:05:40]: Yeah, yeah, I may [0:05:41, 0:05:50]: There's no mo there's no motion. Okay. We have a this is just to review the minutes. We don't we don't uh this is actually to review the minutes. And if there are any uh uh [0:05:50, 0:06:03]: Changes I guess we may we can make, we'll let the clerk know that, but we won't uh vote on to the next voting meeting. Any any comments about the minutes? We tweaked a few this afternoon. Anything else? [0:06:03, 0:06:04]: Okay, we'll move on. [0:06:05, 0:06:06]: There's no discussion. [0:06:08, 0:06:12]: All right. At this time we're going to um [0:06:12, 0:06:20]: Ask if we have any public comments from our audience. If there's anyone in the audience that has not [0:06:20, 0:06:26]: Filled out an orange form if you want to comment, you need to do that quickly. [0:06:26, 0:06:28]: If not, we'll move along. [0:06:28, 0:06:30]: under old business. [0:06:31, 0:06:40]: We have council consideration for adopting a social media policy for the city. That will be presented by our city manager, Michael Harris. [0:06:40, 0:06:42]: Good evening, Mayor, good evening, Council. [0:06:43, 0:06:45]: Um a few weeks back at our [0:06:46, 0:07:06]: previous council meeting, staff introduced a proposed social media policy. This was generated um staff had done a lot of work putting together um drafting a document that was took parts from some other jurisdictions that had a a fairly robust social media policy already in place. So we took um elements from those from [0:07:06, 0:07:07]: All the jurisdictions and [0:07:07, 0:07:10]: combined those together and came up with what we presented [0:07:11, 0:07:12]: Um at the last meeting. [0:07:13, 0:07:19]: Based on the comments that staff has received that we received at that meeting from the council, we've come back with two separate options. [0:07:20, 0:07:24]: And the options that are shown in your in your notebooks this evening [0:07:24, 0:07:28]: the the are they're highlighted with the two [0:07:28, 0:07:29]: Differing um [0:07:30, 0:07:30]: areas. [0:07:31, 0:07:32]: Primarily on page three. [0:07:33, 0:07:35]: In essence what it states is [0:07:36, 0:07:50]: Option one, it would be um advertising for city events and council initiatives as approved by city council would be promoted. Council initiative for council initiatives promotion would consist of pre event advertising only. [0:07:51, 0:07:56]: as opposed to post event advertising, which would be option two. Option two is more [0:07:57, 0:07:59]: Um more wide open if you will. [0:07:59, 0:08:00]: In that [0:08:01, 0:08:12]: it would allow for council initiatives um would be promoted and event photos may be posted at the discretion of the P PIO but those would be the any photographs taken [0:08:13, 0:08:15]: D of the event to be posted on the [0:08:15, 0:08:19]: uh city's Facebook page or website after the event. [0:08:19, 0:08:30]: Um the direction the staff was aiming to go for was really trying to back away from having so many things on the city's Facebook page and really trying to keep it relegated to the city events. [0:08:31, 0:08:37]: Again, as has been stated previously, this is a very aggressive and active council that's doing a number of different initiatives throughout [0:08:38, 0:08:44]: And sometimes other items within other city events can get lost in the fray of of our Facebook pages. So [0:08:44, 0:09:01]: Um the hope being and again we we took a lot of this from looking at other jurisdictions, um how they handle it. In a lot of cases they relegate their city Facebook and website pages just to those city identified um and dedicated city events and for individual council initiatives [0:09:02, 0:09:09]: those council members typically will have their own websites and they'll go back through and they'll list their um their achievements on their own personal websites. [0:09:10, 0:09:21]: Um again it keeps away from the the perception of of potential campaigning amongst a sitting council members as well. So that's one of the issues that we wanted to make sure uh we were mindful of. [0:09:21, 0:09:38]: So again I thought this was um option one certainly being kind of a uh kind of a hybrid um compromise between some of the things that staff was looking at and some of the comments that we received from council, which would involve advertising for the events up front, however for after the events [0:09:39, 0:09:42]: Um we would not include all those post event pictures, so [0:09:43, 0:09:48]: presented both options for uh council's consideration and happy to address any questions that council may have. [0:09:48, 0:09:49]: Yes, ma'am. [0:09:50, 0:10:10]: Are there questions? Yes. Let me ask you this. How about option three or option C, where you said option B which was posting on the Facebook page before and after, but add a caveat that says between qualifying and election day that there will be [0:10:10, 0:10:11]: You know um [0:10:12, 0:10:29]: there will be no initiatives posted between qualifying and election day. Even if so if we did allow posting for council initiatives that that window would be cut out uh during an election year so there wouldn't be any confusion between qualifying and election day. [0:10:31, 0:10:51]: Yeah. Yeah this is you all's policy of just you know taking any any recommendations you may I may have. Uh question. Yes. Yes, thank you, Mayor. Actually I'm sorry, Councilman Answer, I'm not I'm not in favor of that. What I would like to see is option one with the caveat that's in option two, the event photos may be posted at the discretion of the PIO. [0:10:51, 0:11:11]: Oh take that one sentence and put it in option one and that's what I would be satisfied with. But I'm thinking that if you have a council initiative or some type of community event that a a individual that is running is conducting and and they normally conduct during the course of a a year prior to the qualification, I don't see why they can't continue on with those type of initiatives. [0:11:11, 0:11:13]: Who else use if I could speak to that? [0:11:14, 0:11:31]: Uh yes, Councilman Alexander. The reason that I speak to that is in the past we've had events um show up, you know, council initiatives, uh all that time during election time and that you know, if we have that window [0:11:31, 0:11:51]: carved out that removes. We've had some events, you know, that show up like right before uh election time in October where people were doing counseling initiatives that were very on the borderline of could that have been campaigning because that really creates an advantage uh for the incumbent. [0:11:51, 0:12:11]: So that is the concern that I'm seeing and I saw that to in my opinion happen during campaign season and I don't want that to happen to somebody else running for office is that all of a sudden we have a bunch of council initiatives show up and then that person is out front. They're on the city Facebook page, they're on the city website regular [0:12:11, 0:12:31]: They're in the newspaper, not you know, at city expense. So I think that speaks to Mr. Harris's concern, which is some of this stuff can be looked at as campaigning um uh during that period. And and when I say that, that's only between the time on an election year. Any other time we could do that fully [0:12:31, 0:12:40]: but just not during election time because, you know, this year we have the same thing coming up. I mean, we're doing qualifying at that point that we have uh council initiatives [0:12:41, 0:12:45]: You know, it can be perceived that way. I just don't want to be perceived that way. [0:12:45, 0:12:49]: So am I understanding you that you are suggesting that [0:12:49, 0:12:53]: No council initiatives would be held during campaign season. [0:12:54, 0:13:14]: No, I'm I'm saying that they will not be posted uh during campaign season and that you could consider not ha uh actually during election time, right, no council initiatives during qualifying up until election day. So yes, uh as I think that out yes, because even if you didn't advertise it you have big groups [0:13:14, 0:13:26]: groups that could be considered campaign events and that's only between that window in August and election day every f uh two years or four years for election time. [0:13:28, 0:13:39]: Mayor Neil. Are there any other comments? Mayor Neil. Okay, I have one first uh down here from Councilwoman Gantt. Um yes. I kinda came in at the tail end of this and [0:13:40, 0:14:00]: Um I disagree with Councilman Alexander uh in regards to um stating that no council initiatives are to take place or initiatives or being posted for that you know, or an event that's already been planned or if it's an initiative. Um we're here to represent [0:14:00, 0:14:20]: the citizens it's not a strategic plan or anything of that nature. It's something that I feel um we should continue to do. That's what the citizens are expecting for us to do is to represent them w whether it's an initiative or an event. It's not a political campaign. We just happen to be um an officer. [0:14:20, 0:14:20]: Yeah. [0:14:22, 0:14:25]: Okay. [0:14:25, 0:14:26]: I um [0:14:28, 0:14:34]: I think that with uh I'm I'm concurring with uh Mayor Pro Tem about the uh PIO officer. [0:14:34, 0:14:39]: Because with that position you're gonna have a media p a social media policy. [0:14:39, 0:14:44]: Rhether you're doing that whatever initiative you're doing or whatever you're doing in the community. [0:14:45, 0:14:48]: throughout your term, which is four years [0:14:49, 0:15:01]: Whatever the social media policy is, that's our that's gonna be in place. And those are gonna be determined by the PIO officer, uh PIO person that's put in that position. Um [0:15:01, 0:15:03]: It would be premature for me. [0:15:04, 0:15:12]: to want to implement any new policies that wouldn't allow any council members this year that would be running. [0:15:12, 0:15:14]: Because I have nothing to lose. [0:15:15, 0:15:26]: So when you look at when you try and implement policies when there are other council members in here that it is an election year for, I believe the best policy is is to have a PIO officer. [0:15:26, 0:15:29]: have the social media policy in place [0:15:29, 0:15:40]: and go about the business as usual. Rather that's if if anybody does something extra and it helps and it benefits the citizens of Stockbridge, the winner is the city of Stockbridge. The winner's the citizens. [0:15:41, 0:15:50]: Uh I I don't like us getting into the political ram about this and that because we put a policy in place that protects that anyway. That that protects that entity of [0:15:51, 0:15:52]: of politicing. [0:15:52, 0:16:04]: through the city's expense anyway. So I I believe uh uh the I I agree with option one, but I would like to see all all of the social media policies done through a PIO officer. [0:16:06, 0:16:18]: Are there other questions or Mr Harris, do you have any other comments? Mayor. I did. Um I did want to just note that, you know, when we started looking at this, we also looked at a number of our local jurisdictions as well. [0:16:19, 0:16:24]: And we were looking for the consistency in how they handle this type of situation. Every [0:16:25, 0:16:28]: has some their own nuances certainly but [0:16:29, 0:16:37]: This was fairly uniform throughout the certainly throughout the metropolitan area and certainly on a local level here in Henry County in the jurisdictions that we looked at where [0:16:38, 0:16:48]: The postings on the on the city's Facebook page and the city's website was really confined to those overall general city events. [0:16:49, 0:16:50]: There were cases [0:16:50, 0:17:00]: where individual council members did retain their own personal Facebook page in which you click on that page and you see the individual um [0:17:00, 0:17:10]: um council member have their litany of different items and things that they had done, initiatives and other activities they may have taken place or participated in throughout the throughout the uh throughout their jurisdiction. [0:17:10, 0:17:17]: Um so that was the direction that we're trying to move towards with this and to try and help to because what we have noticed is [0:17:18, 0:17:21]: with there being so much, with having such an active council. Um [0:17:22, 0:17:42]: with such a proliferation of so many pitchers being on there, some of the big events can simply just get lost or some of the main things we have coming up can simply just get lost. And we want to make sure we still have a focus on the big things that we're trying to move forward with. You know, as this summer approaches, we have a number of events again with food trucks and a summer concerts that'll be going on and [0:17:42, 0:17:50]: um Memorial Day events, things of that nature. So we want to make sure we keep the focus on our on our on our on our on our main and our big events. [0:17:51, 0:17:52]: But certainly [0:17:52, 0:17:56]: I and again I get I thought it was option one was a good compromise in that [0:17:56, 0:18:03]: based on what we heard from the council that it does allow you to go ahead and I think it it does it does make sense to certainly for the initiatives that are going on [0:18:04, 0:18:13]: to make sure it's promoted and it put it put it out there on the website so people are made aware of it. And then most recently we had the senior fund activity. You know very well attended. [0:18:14, 0:18:27]: And and I think things like that that bring people out, you know, with the goodwill um events coming up soon. I think that's a city event. You know, but so I think promoting those things certainly is is is is reasonable. [0:18:27, 0:18:30]: But I think just the thought was if we can kind of scale back on [0:18:30, 0:18:33]: Everything that comes after that and all the pictures afterwards. [0:18:34, 0:18:36]: So that was the rationale behind taking this step. [0:18:37, 0:18:38]: Okay. [0:18:38, 0:18:44]: All right. Um yes. Uh Councilwoman Robinson. Thank you. [0:18:45, 0:18:50]: Facebook, does it not have an option to where you can put it in a file like [0:18:51, 0:18:53]: on there where you can say [0:18:53, 0:18:58]: Okay, this is whatever happened, you can date it. [0:18:59, 0:19:11]: That those to me could be files for each council person, correct? On Facebook. It gives you that option. So that way it won't tie down the timeline as you're speaking of. [0:19:11, 0:19:30]: Right. Okay. So with the option one with the PIO officer giving them the option to say, okay, this is what we will post, but it will be placed in each council person's history for as the folder for that person. Okay. And my question is also to council [0:19:31, 0:19:51]: We have a four year term, so to me, if you start early doing different initiatives, we shouldn't have a problem when it's time for your election. Because normally what you'll have is you'll have your previous items that you're gonna be doing annually. So you wouldn't be doing anything short to the [0:19:51, 0:20:11]: citizens because you would already have stuff that you will be doing annually. So certain things when it's time for election, I I think that's something we should look at because if you're doing stuff for the citizens, it's nothing that will just pop up at the end of the year. It would definitely be something that will be done, you know, year one, year two, [0:20:11, 0:20:31]: two um and if it then if you do do something at the year four it should be done at the beginning of the year. So it's ways that to me that it can be done, but it's just a matter of just sitting down and and and saying this is what it needs to be so to be fair to everyone. But I do know in Facebook it does give [0:20:31, 0:20:41]: Yeah. [0:20:41, 0:20:46]: And just to if I could address that quickly, um we did look and see if [0:20:46, 0:20:48]: If on the main city is a little bit more than a little bit of [0:20:48, 0:20:49]: Um [0:20:49, 0:20:52]: websites if they're if they included a link to the individual's [0:20:53, 0:20:54]: personal Facebook page. [0:20:55, 0:21:13]: That's not what they had. Yeah. So I'm not sure if that's what you're referring to. That's not. Okay. Right. It's a folder that you can put. Um and I think we should look into that because I know on my personal Facebook page I have things from day one when I started with Facebook that I can just put or I can delete that folder. [0:21:13, 0:21:14]: It's an option. [0:21:15, 0:21:15]: Okay. [0:21:15, 0:21:21]: Yeah, last comment please. Uh okay, there is another comment by uh Councilman Blount. [0:21:23, 0:21:29]: W one of the things and I just want to reiterate this, one of the things we want to always do is is eliminate confusion. [0:21:30, 0:21:31]: We want to eliminate mis [0:21:32, 0:21:32]: Uh [0:21:34, 0:21:36]: We want to make sure what we post is accurate. [0:21:37, 0:21:39]: This is why we want a policy in place. [0:21:40, 0:21:49]: without all these different components to it for one person, the PIO officer to to put on face uh to put on the website and the Facebook website because [0:21:50, 0:22:02]: out of all the concerns, if you have that one set policy, it eliminates that. If you got something that so you almost telling a a council member, if you come up with this great idea [0:22:02, 0:22:05]: And you only got six more months to serve as a council member. [0:22:06, 0:22:26]: You can't come up with you can't push that idea out there because it'll look like campaigning. I don't think that's fair to any council member s sitting up here because we're we was elected to formulate creative ideas. We was elected to listen to the citizens and listen their their ideas and whatever come forth. So this is why you put a policy in place. [0:22:26, 0:22:32]: that when you come up with these ideas, regardless of how late or early in the year it is, whether it's in the election year or not, [0:22:33, 0:22:41]: that policy is in place for a PIO officer that doesn't have to answer to us on what to do but answer to the city manager on what they can post. [0:22:44, 0:22:50]: Okay. Any other comments? Uh I would just like to ask the city manager's recommendation. [0:22:50, 0:22:50]: Well [0:22:51, 0:22:53]: Yeah, it sounds like [0:22:55, 0:22:57]: There's still some [0:22:58, 0:23:04]: difference of opinions as far as how much we should be posting and in in what manner. Um perhaps [0:23:05, 0:23:07]: You know, I think the the consensus as um [0:23:08, 0:23:14]: um reflected by the board previously was to move forward with the PIO position. Um [0:23:15, 0:23:31]: Perhaps we can go ahead and take the steps of filling that position and bring the person on and have them aid in really crafting'cause they're going to be the person who really is going to own this policy, you know, in all sincerity. Um they'll have a far better understanding of how it should be regulated and governed. Um [0:23:32, 0:23:48]: Um again this is something I think it's something new to a lot of jurisdictions, not just City Stockford certainly. I think a lot of jurisdictions with with um social media playing such a such a uh a vital role in dissemination of information now, how you regulate that certainly certainly is is is a [0:23:48, 0:24:08]: it it requires some kind of policy. So when we started looking out, a lot of jurisdictions still don't have a formali a formalized policy. So a lot of it was just kind of going through and talking to them and finding out what has kind of been your how you've handled the situation. So so the few that did, that's what we kinda pulled and gleaned from. But you know, pulling in someone who has worked specifically in this arena [0:24:08, 0:24:10]: [1451.1, 1455.9]: guidance to be able to help how we better craft this. Because again it just sounds like there's still some [0:24:16, 0:24:20]: Some difference of opinions as far as what would be the best direction to move in. [0:24:20, 0:24:22]: So if that's [0:24:23, 0:24:26]: council's directive we can get I mean I know we've talked about moving forward with the PIO so [0:24:28, 0:24:33]: Okay. I believe we have a comment from Pro Tem Anthony Ford. Thank you, Mayor. Appreciate it. [0:24:33, 0:24:34]: Um once again. [0:24:35, 0:24:37]: Well what I like to see is option one with the [0:24:37, 0:24:57]: the events photos uh be posted in discretion by the PTO PIO I'm sorry. Now if we if we delay this until we get a PIO online then uh that's several months from now. All right, whenever that would be I don't know, uh May, June, July, who knows. I mean you maybe you can help na nail that down. That's one thing. The other thing is and [0:24:57, 0:25:01]: In the meantime, who will function as that PIO? [0:25:02, 0:25:03]: on the staff right now. [0:25:05, 0:25:13]: Who will? Yeah, who will. That does that person does not currently exist. I mean that doesn't I have to do that. [0:25:13, 0:25:29]: Up until, you know, uh between the executive assistant to the Mayor Council, executive assistant to city manager, the clerk's office, um a number of people have kind of shared those those duties and functions. I mean it really is a testament to how well staff works works together, but [0:25:30, 0:25:50]: as needed, people have jumped in to kinda help post and and but I can tell you even in that that's created sometimes some overlap and redundancy that that again the hope of a PIO that would help eliminate. So I think that was part of the the impetus because I I can you know I've I've been here for three years now and in year one this wasn't really a big issue because there weren't [0:25:49, 0:25:57]: as many, nearly as many um functions that were going on or or as many pictures being taken at at different at various events. [0:25:57, 0:26:17]: and request for having those things posted. Um now that now there is. Um I can tell you in the next couple of months, you know, the vast majority of the activities are really going to be centered around already designated um city functions. We have Memorial Day coming up, food trucks are coming up, summer concerts, so those things would be handled as they would have been handled previously. We'll advertise those [0:26:17, 0:26:37]: up up front and then certainly we will post pictures afterwards. And I think it's also critical to note that some of these things, again like the events that are spearheaded by our Main Street Department, they maintain their own separate Facebook page. So they'll have their postings of items and activities that take place. [0:26:37, 0:26:48]: big part of what they do is tourism to attract people into their main street district so they want to make sure they're constantly showcasing what they're doing. Um so there are other areas where we're gonna be posting different different pictures. So [0:26:48, 0:27:06]: You know, I think from that standpoint, I think the majority of things that are coming up. I know we do have some council initiative union and community basketball game is coming up soon. Um so I know we do have some events that'll be coming up, but I I think the vast majority of the items that are coming up are gonna be really city, um dedicated city city events that have already been identified. [0:27:07, 0:27:17]: And again, up until a time where a PIO is identified, that'll likely be continue to be handled as a as a committee function. Madam Clerk, is that about correct? [0:27:17, 0:27:19]: she says with a sly grin. [0:27:19, 0:27:25]: Okay. Um are we going to finish this discussion and move this forward? [0:27:28, 0:27:29]: Again. [0:27:29, 0:27:49]: To the next meeting or well yeah we can't we can certainly bring it to the next meeting or if it's the council's desire to to to make a motion on either option one or option two. If it's not and we prefer and preferences to table this, we certainly make the option to table it until such time that we have a um we filled that PIO position and then revisited it at that at that time. [0:27:49, 0:27:53]: Okay. What is the pleasure of the council? [0:27:54, 0:27:56]: Ms. Uh Mayor, I'd like to make a motion. [0:27:57, 0:28:05]: I'd like to make a motion that option one, we accept option one, once again, by adding events, photos may be posted at the discretion of the PIO. [0:28:06, 0:28:08]: Do I hear a second? [0:28:09, 0:28:11]: Second by Councilman Blount. [0:28:13, 0:28:14]: All in favor. [0:28:15, 0:28:21]: Oh discussion. Sorry about that. [0:28:21, 0:28:41]: We haven't even authorized the position of PIO yet. We had it in the budget last year and it was actually removed. So we're actually discussing authorizing a position that we have no budget for and we haven't even begun the discussions on having our HR manager sit down [0:28:41, 0:28:55]: and put the job description together or any of that. So we're kind of like putting the cart before the horse, aren't we? We're only a uh the motion was for a social media policy, not for a position. [0:28:56, 0:29:00]: Well that w that was the full motion was under the PIO officer, right? [0:29:01, 0:29:06]: The council consideration for adopting a social media policy for the city [0:29:07, 0:29:21]: Which is being presented by Michael Harris, City Manager. Could we state the motion, please? The motion was to take option one and add events photos may be posted at the discretion of the PIO. It was properly seconded. [0:29:21, 0:29:27]: See what I'm saying? That's there's no PIO. Well no P I O is hired, is that correct? [0:29:28, 0:29:48]: Or i i I I guess I and I if I may, Madam Mayor, um to your point, um y yeah, you're right. I think those duties, those PIO duties, will continue to be as done by the committee. Um but I do want to add that um our HR manager has gone through the steps of um'cause we've talked about it before, we have we have a job description, we've gone through uh [0:29:48, 0:29:57]: um um salary ranges so everything is teed up ready to go for as soon as we make the budget amendment for that position because I think we heard from previous meeting [0:29:58, 0:30:00]: the entirety of the council is unanimous in that [0:30:01, 0:30:07]: um the decision to move forward with that position. So at that point we started making those provisions. So we have all that information in place. [0:30:07, 0:30:15]: in absence of a PIO, then you know w those functions will continue to be handled again again by committee as they've as they're handled right now. [0:30:16, 0:30:20]: I'm for this if we can say we're gonna have a PIO officer [0:30:21, 0:30:30]: When? Sixty days, ninety days, six months before the end of the year, I'm okay with it as long as I know we're gonna do that. But right now we don't have that. [0:30:30, 0:30:50]: I believe we are scheduled in April to have our quarterly uh update on our finances and at that time would be the appropriate time if you want to amend money in for a PIO position. I believe that's what we've agreed on in the past, is that correct? [0:30:50, 0:30:53]: Yes. Is there a comment by Councilman Blount? [0:30:53, 0:31:00]: one of the consensus that this council has said and and and made forward to the public that we do [0:31:00, 0:31:01]: want disposition. [0:31:02, 0:31:09]: and to formulate a policy because what's what's going on now, what we wanna see right now, I would like to see personally. [0:31:10, 0:31:18]: I is information being put out with the policy behind it, with the position that we've c had a consensus on that this is something that's needed for the city and we want it. [0:31:19, 0:31:22]: and we move as quickly as we can on this. [0:31:22, 0:31:24]: Because we want accurate [0:31:24, 0:31:44]: information put out there and we don't want this uh this this convoluted situation because uh one of the options I was thinking about also if we're gonna have those first of all picture taken. Uh if it's falls on events, why don't we get with C C over that's over City events and [0:31:44, 0:32:04]: and see if she has someone that she could recommend to take pictures. And and prior to bringing a P PIO officer in, that we can still go through the policies and have that person that's coming on part time to abide by whatever policies we put in place until we have an official PIO position put in, but let events bring those people in. [0:32:04, 0:32:05]: Because [0:32:05, 0:32:21]: with all this picture taking and and politicking that's going on right now and some inaccuracies in those things that have been put out, we need to have something done right now. We're here to serve the citizens a stop bridge in the best way we can without all this politicking being put in place. [0:32:22, 0:32:27]: Okay. [0:32:29, 0:32:30]: Just a quick comment. [0:32:31, 0:32:46]: I think with the events we already have someone um that they use to take photos'cause throughout the food trucks they have I think was the intern that they had that was taking pictures. So that is already she was doing that when I was there. [0:32:47, 0:33:07]: And she did even at the concerts. Yes, she did. Yes. That's correct. And if if I if I just one last comment. And you're right. I think that there was staff at at from Merle Manders that did take I think a lot of the challenge, I think what the what precipitated this was it got to a point where it did it was becoming overwhelming. [0:33:07, 0:33:27]: just the posting of the pictures and keeping track of all the pictures and the sheer volume of pictures trying to post, that's what kind of precipitated let's create some kind of a policy to see if we can't clarify and clean up the process um to make it a bit more efficient. Certainly once a PIO comes on board, I would imagine that this policy would be tweaked as time goes, you know o or [0:33:27, 0:33:38]: over time, um but certainly this was kind of a stopgap measure, if you will, to kinda help put some provisions in place to figure out how do we make this process a bit more efficient, you know, for for the here and now. [0:33:38, 0:33:48]: Okay. Okay. We have one more comment by Councilman Gantt. [0:33:48, 0:34:05]: it was to me it's the staff in general. I've taken pictures. There's been days when we had screen on the green and Main Street needed someone to take pictures, so I grabbed the camera and took pictures. I think it's been a staff team effort. I don't think that the intern [0:34:05, 0:34:15]: um had a and it's an intern remind you, I don't think that was just their job duty was to go around taking pictures. I I think that um [0:34:17, 0:34:17]: [2057.8, 2063.9]: this is a a fair and we've bit I think we've been going through this about two you know, two or three times already. [0:34:24, 0:34:30]: I think is fair and accurate for us and uh the concern is to eliminate the work on the staff. [0:34:30, 0:34:50]: in regards to what is being downloaded, what what is required of them. So that there's no favoritism or anyone thinking one person is choosing one person over another or these people have that many pictures out there just to have a clean cut policies and procedures. And so again I'm concurring with um Mayor Pro Tem. [0:34:50, 0:35:08]: Ford and Mr. Blyn on that. Mayor Neal. Mayor Neal. Yes, and I need clarification on the motion. If the motion is to um have the at the discretion of the PIO or in the interim, the committee, is that to be included in your motion? [0:35:09, 0:35:14]: No, actually I didn't I didn't include that. Okay, I said the PIO, that's the way it's written. [0:35:15, 0:35:27]: But it would make more sense until we get to pay all PIO then I would I would amend it to add and the committee, uh which would be the staff members that would work this by the committee. It makes more sense to do that. Thank you. Okay. [0:35:28, 0:35:31]: W we already. [0:35:31, 0:35:33]: All right, let's go back and clear this up. [0:35:34, 0:35:38]: The way it's worded in the in the uh booklet that we have before us [0:35:39, 0:35:52]: The motion that you're making is for council consideration for adopting a social media policy. Would you restate those two points that you made? Well it was option one with adding the statement that was in option two [0:35:53, 0:36:11]: It says event photos may be posted at the discretion of the PIO and now until we get a payoff and and with the com or the committee, I guess whatever that c or staff, whatever they say and staff, or staff, PIO and staff, since that uh the committee is formed by the city staff. [0:36:12, 0:36:12]: Okay. [0:36:12, 0:36:14]: Okay, is everybody clear? [0:36:15, 0:36:18]: Now the person who seconded that motion [0:36:18, 0:36:22]: Can we have that restatement again, the second? [0:36:22, 0:36:23]: That was Mr Blount. [0:36:23, 0:36:24]: Mm. [0:36:24, 0:36:28]: Councilman Blount, will you s re second this after he's clarified it? [0:36:29, 0:36:32]: Yeah, but the discussion piece is what staff are we talking about? [0:36:33, 0:36:37]: Because the problem we've had is that when we say staff [0:36:37, 0:36:57]: And the that staff is is is uh staff that's answered to mayor and council, that's been the conflict because you got six bosses. One is telling you they want it this way, that in the job description telling you do it this way, and another boss can tell you I want it done that way. This is what has made this whole situation [0:36:58, 0:37:12]: s so much conflictual in in trying to perform duties. So what staff are we uh identifying? I I would say at the discretion of the city manager. As determined by the city manager that not second. Okay. Uh all in favor. [0:37:15, 0:37:15]: Okay. [0:37:17, 0:37:31]: Thank you so much for that one. And now uh we're going to hear another old business item council consideration to add a fourth of July with fireworks event for the city and that too will be presented by our city manager, Michael Harris. [0:37:32, 0:37:50]: Thank you again. Um try to be a little more succinct on this one. Um th again, this is a follow up from a conversation from the last meeting. Um question was posed to staff about the prospect of doing a Fourth of July fireworks celebration this year and we were asked to provide some actual cost estimates [0:37:51, 0:37:58]: And what I've included what's been included in the book a is a breakdown of some of the um quotes that were received by our events personnel. [0:37:59, 0:38:05]: And again, just kinda reiterate what was discussed at the last meeting, we anticipate a cost of anywhere from [0:38:06, 0:38:13]: twenty five to perhaps thirty thousand dollars for the cost. Um the challenge being at this late a date [0:38:14, 0:38:15]: that it would be um [0:38:16, 0:38:22]: One, just a challenge to be able to secure a firm to be able to do the um production. [0:38:22, 0:38:27]: and then any entertainment that would be uh requested would certainly be [0:38:27, 0:38:29]: uh challenging at this later date. [0:38:30, 0:38:44]: And if it's going to be on that day, you know, as stated in some of the notes, you're going to be paying a premium for Fourth of July. What a lot of um organizations do is they schedule their events for a day before, day after, two days before after. [0:38:45, 0:38:57]: challenge right now is again even with this late date, all those dates are filling up. Um so this is the information as as requested by council that staff has put together um, you know, from a [0:38:58, 0:39:16]: But my recommendation, you know, typically it takes time to go back through and schedule and plan for or something like this. My recommendation would be that we include it in the next year's budget, but even prior to then we can go ahead and start making provisions to have it in place for next year. But again, just as as just a follow up from the council's um request from the last meeting. [0:39:17, 0:39:27]: Okay, at this time do I hear a motion one way or the other regarding the Fourth of July fireworks? Yes. Uh Councilman Blount. [0:39:27, 0:39:47]: I motion that it be removed that item be removed and we consider any future budgets for it because one of the things that's clear is that this event is gonna cost us almost three times as much as we budgeted for already. Uh we have I believe personally in my seat that I'm sitting in, we have a lot more uh [0:39:47, 0:40:06]: um uh going on in the city of stockbridge and to see how you know we can shoot up fireworks or get uh or or to expand this budget to s to the so astronomical j to include fireworks. Um we I I I'm totally against it. So my motion is on the table that we be re it be removed and addressed at a later date. [0:40:07, 0:40:11]: Okay, Councilman Blount, your motion is to table it to a later date. Is that correct? [0:40:12, 0:40:12]: Yes. [0:40:13, 0:40:14]: Do I hear a second? [0:40:15, 0:40:16]: A second. [0:40:16, 0:40:19]: We have a motion at to table with a second. [0:40:20, 0:40:22]: Uh by Councilwoman Gantt. [0:40:22, 0:40:23]: Discussion. [0:40:24, 0:40:24]: Okay. [0:40:25, 0:40:29]: And we are now going to go into discussion. Councilman Alexander. [0:40:29, 0:40:49]: I I do understand that um this is something that I'd like to see the city move forward with uh at some point uh probably next year to make put us in a position where we want to um have a have a grand event uh on the Fourth of July, kinda filling a hole uh in the community. [0:40:49, 0:40:57]: We're gonna have a concert in July. It would seem appropriate to have that Sound of Summer concert uh be on the fourth of July. [0:40:57, 0:41:05]: And um I'm very cognizant of you know what we're doing with the with the citizens' money because at this point [0:41:06, 0:41:15]: uh it would be cost prohibitive. But, you know, we're trying to look forward to see what's going on in the city to see what we can do in order to move things forward. [0:41:16, 0:41:24]: But it should be pointed out that uh at this time right now this city hired uh an independent investigator. [0:41:25, 0:41:27]: And that's costing you all money. [0:41:27, 0:41:30]: Out there. Um mayor. [0:41:30, 0:41:31]: Point of order. [0:41:33, 0:41:34]: That's [0:41:39, 0:41:45]: Yes. Okay. [0:41:45, 0:42:05]: Yeah, we're we're talking about spending money. So the a a ruling needs to be issued as to whether the point of order should stand and the council move on with the discussion. The point of order is pertaining to the issue at hand period, not other areas of of of uh expenditures of the city. [0:42:05, 0:42:08]: is to the to the issue that's at hand. I understand. [0:42:08, 0:42:13]: All right, Councilman Alexander, I would ask that you stay on topic regarding the fireworks. [0:42:14, 0:42:34]: I I thought I was on on topic which was talking about the budget and what we were spending uh money on in terms of moving in that direction because you know we're gonna spend more money than the proposed fifteen to twenty thousand dollars on another issue which is the investigator. So we are spending [0:42:34, 0:42:43]: Uh Councilman, I'm gonna call your time. You you've spoken more than your two minutes unless somebody wants to recommend that he go forward. [0:42:44, 0:42:45]: All right. [0:42:45, 0:42:51]: At this time there is a comment now from Councilman Blount. I mean sorry. [0:42:51, 0:43:11]: Protem forward. Discussion purposes. Um in reference to the fireworks, now I under I like to see the fireworks, but I know that now with all these numbers it is a lot of money, all right, for right now. So it needs to be properly planned. So it's probably best to of course plan this out for the next budget for next year. I also like to say that if we can switch that July concert to [0:43:11, 0:43:29]: to the fourth so we'll have something on the fourth. Maybe that might be the best thing to do. So we'll have something on the fourth. We just won't have fireworks, maybe a concert. Now obviously you have to have someone on the staff to check that out, see what the cost factor would be, whether or not who's available, things of this nature, but maybe now look at just having that July concert on the fourth itself. [0:43:30, 0:43:38]: versus no fireworks and then taking one little step further next year to have the console on the fourth with fireworks and plot properly plan it out. Thank you. [0:43:40, 0:43:42]: Uh we had a motion to table [0:43:43, 0:43:45]: And we had a second [0:43:46, 0:43:47]: Can we clarify the motion, please? [0:43:49, 0:44:02]: Beg your pardon? Clarify the motion if it's tap we want to table it, but what means we can bring it back at some point for next year. All right, I'm gonna clarify it. The motion was to table the Fourth of July discussion regarding fireworks. [0:44:03, 0:44:05]: And we have a second back [0:44:05, 0:44:06]: Councilman Gantt. [0:44:07, 0:44:08]: Yeah, it's a woman game. [0:44:12, 0:44:16]: All in favor of that to table, that motion to table. [0:44:18, 0:44:19]: Okay? [0:44:19, 0:44:21]: Thank you so much. We'll move on. [0:44:21, 0:44:26]: We have new business uh council consideration to approve a change order. [0:44:26, 0:44:30]: for the local maintenance and improvement grant L M I G [0:44:30, 0:44:33]: paving and resurfacing project for the city. [0:44:34, 0:44:47]: with Blount construction and I want to make a point that is not our councilman Blount's company in the amount of two hundred and sixty four thousand two hundred seventy two dollars and eighty cents. [0:44:47, 0:44:51]: This will be presented by our city manager, Michael Harris. [0:44:52, 0:44:53]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [0:44:53, 0:44:56]: This item uh actually reached out to many of you [0:44:57, 0:44:57]: Um [0:44:58, 0:45:00]: week or so ago when this all came came about. [0:45:02, 0:45:10]: The the LMIG is a local maintenance improvement grant program that we've been participating in for a number of years with the Georgia Department of Transportation and [0:45:10, 0:45:15]: Through our through the grant process we received over two hundred and eighty [0:45:15, 0:45:30]: So over two hundred eighty thousand in grant funds for the purpose of doing resurfacing work. Came to the council late last year to approve the list and we approved roughly just a little over four miles of resurfacing, which is again just a step up from what we did last year. [0:45:31, 0:45:35]: as we were going through the process as they you know, we'd wore the contract to Blount. [0:45:35, 0:45:40]: Um working with our procurement specialist, Mr. Donald Riley and and his neighbors, our treasurer. [0:45:40, 0:45:48]: And when we crafted the the the contract, we had a provision in there that allowed us to should other items come up [0:45:48, 0:45:55]: that needed uh to be addressed and we could we have a unit price that was given so we can go ahead and add as needed. [0:45:56, 0:45:57]: So once our [0:45:57, 0:46:00]: um public works director came on board Mr. Deshaus Aaron. [0:46:01, 0:46:21]: We started going back through and looking at some other areas that we knew definitely were in need of repair, some of our more higher profile areas, and we looked at Flippin' Road and East Atlanta Road, areas that I've received a number of calls and I know council members have received a number of calls about. Um so we asked Blonde if they can give us a quote to add that to the list. So they were able to [0:46:21, 0:46:23]: At the time they had made very [0:46:24, 0:46:31]: great progress on running through the El Meg list. I mean they're they're right up to finishing up on their last few streets they're resurfacing. [0:46:32, 0:46:44]: Uh so he gave us a quote and it was contingent upon them being able to do the work without having to leave and come back. So we're trying to do as fast a turnaround as possible, knowing these were needed areas. Um [0:46:45, 0:47:05]: So they sent the change order, I initially approved the change order, but when I sent it back down to finance, they notified me rightfully so, and again I think it speaks to the the the integrity and the professionalism of our of our finance department and all those that are involved and they said, Hey, you know, even though we had a provision in the contract which was approved by the council that allowed us to add [0:47:05, 0:47:12]: it still eclipsed the threshold that I was authorized to approve, so it needs to come back to the council. [0:47:12, 0:47:13]: So [0:47:13, 0:47:33]: Here we were in this kind of kind of little bit of a limbo. So that's why I immediately reached out to council, notified you all what happened, what transpired, and asked for your approval to allow them to continue to proceed and move forward. Um, received a consensus, um a a majority consensus to allow the work to proceed and bringing it back tonight to ratify that action. So I just want to make sure [0:47:33, 0:47:53]: Everyone knows council, the viewing public, nothing was done underhanded. The only thing this is about was simply to make sure that we maximize the use of our contractor in making sure that we got Flippin' Road paved and East Atlanta Road paved. It added them on. We had money, uh supplemental funds in our SPLOSS for a contract. That's what that was utilized. [0:47:53, 0:48:10]: for um some of these additional costs. So that's how it's being paid, it's not coming out of general fund. These FOS funds have been set aside specifically for resurfacing. So we felt good about the um about the option. They were able to move forward with it without having to demobilize and remobilize, thereby costing an additional fee. So [0:48:10, 0:48:13]: That's what this is, you know, I take full responsibility for [0:48:14, 0:48:15]: [2895.3, 2895.7]: It's it. [0:48:16, 0:48:20]: the the mix up in the in the timing but at the end of the day and I think [0:48:20, 0:48:22]: Everyone can attest. Those roads certainly are [0:48:23, 0:48:43]: Right, a whole lot better now than they did a couple of weeks ago. So we've had a lot of compliments on that. I would like to thank our treasurer, um Linda Neighbors, for calling that to the city manager's attention. This is what good government looks like when it functions the way it should, and we appreciate everything to make this uh come together. [0:48:43, 0:48:53]: Together. Do I hear a motion tonight that we approve um this uh change order so that we can move forward, Mayor? Was it to ask a question? Beg your pardon. [0:48:55, 0:48:58]: Are we gonna have discussion? [0:48:59, 0:49:03]: Yeah, but since he made a presentation, I just wanted to ask a question. Go ahead. [0:49:03, 0:49:04]: Um [0:49:04, 0:49:09]: When y the uh local maintenance and improvement grant of the two hundred and eighty thousand [0:49:10, 0:49:13]: How much was that spent prior to this project? [0:49:13, 0:49:25]: Well the total cost for everything prior to the the original contract amount was like seven hundred and four thousand dollars. So that get money gets spent up front and then we tap in and use our supplemental funds that have been identified through SPLOSS four. [0:49:25, 0:49:32]: So anything beyond that two hundred and eighty nine thousand is use we use our SPLOSS for so we use we leverage [0:49:32, 0:49:36]: those grant funds to ex be able to extend how much research thing we can do. [0:49:36, 0:49:37]: Yeah. [0:49:37, 0:49:39]: Pertaining to the areas that we're going to be covering. [0:49:40, 0:49:40]: Mm-hmm. [0:49:41, 0:49:42]: Which I would like to see [0:49:42, 0:49:45]: us fix our roads, you know, if you will. [0:49:45, 0:49:50]: What part of this is what percentage of this road picture we're doing? Is any of it in the county? [0:49:50, 0:50:05]: No, all these and it's a great point, y all these all these sections are solely in the city of Stockbridge. Now we do have maintenance agreements that speak to um grass cutting and and and and and some maintenance items within these sections in the within these road areas. [0:50:06, 0:50:11]: But you'll notice or you could have noticed prior to us doing flip the road p it uh in particular. [0:50:11, 0:50:13]: Right there at the city line. [0:50:13, 0:50:18]: you'll notice that there was a a a a clear difference in the pavement [0:50:18, 0:50:36]: from the city to the county where they had previously paved up to the city line and that's where they stopped. So and I it had conversations with the county to find out if that was on their schedule any time soon. It is not, they wouldn't have paved our section either way. It would have been back on our responsibility to pave that section. So that's how we want to go ahead and proceed. [0:50:36, 0:50:45]: Okay, so with the L M uh L M I G funds and the SPAS funds, we we're okay with covering it and we'll submit another round next year as well. [0:50:46, 0:50:49]: Okay, at this time do I hear a motion? [0:50:49, 0:50:50]: Man alew. [0:50:50, 0:51:05]: I would like to move that we approve the um onus contract number two oh one six oh eight-sixteen for the increase of the change order uh in the amount of two hundred and sixty four thousand two hundred and seventy two thousand fourteen six. [0:51:05, 0:51:17]: And I also um although I made that motion, um they were pointing to Donald stating that he's the one who've caught the correction. So wanted to give him credit for that. Well we just [0:51:17, 0:51:30]: Uh yes, I w I will compliment uh our procurement officer. I apologize for that. And also Councilman Blount will accept your second to that motion. I'll uh is there any further discussion? [0:51:32, 0:51:33]: If not [0:51:33, 0:51:36]: I'll call for the vote. All in favor. [0:51:38, 0:51:48]: All right. And there are a lot of happy citizens out there. We've heard lots about our paving. It's made some folks happy and we appreciate that. He appreciate hearing from them. [0:51:48, 0:51:52]: Uh the next thing we're going to go into a discussion item. [0:51:53, 0:51:59]: And it will also be presented by our city manager. It's uh regarding a rezoning request. [0:51:59, 0:52:05]: Uh regarding the Wet Set, Scuba and Water Sports Inc. of Stockbridge. [0:52:05, 0:52:05]: Yes. [0:52:06, 0:52:15]: Thank you again. And this is uh a long time business, it's been here in Stockbridge for a number of years, um well over twenty years. The Wet Set Scuban Water Sports [0:52:16, 0:52:17]: Located um [0:52:18, 0:52:29]: fifty f fifty one oh four North Henry Boulevard right near Shields. Um they've taught swimming for a number of years. They've taught scuba for a number of years and [0:52:29, 0:52:36]: he's in a process of kind of transitioning from more scuba related to more of a swim school. There is a swimming facility there. [0:52:37, 0:52:57]: So when we were approached by the property owner, they were asked to say he here's what we want to do if somebody wants to turn it into more of a swim school as a designated swim school. We said that's great, but in uh this gives us an opportunity to kind of clean up our zoning. Um he's currently zoned C one for a swimming school. This would require per R code and ordinances to be zoned [0:52:57, 0:52:58]: On C two. [0:52:58, 0:53:18]: Um so again this is simply a more of a a cleanup item. It's simply going from C one to C two for a longtime business. Uh you know, and again we're we're happy that they're continue want to continue to invest in the community and invest in their business here in the community. Um it's it was heard by the zoning advisory board and they recommended approval. [0:53:18, 0:53:25]: Um that'll be coming to the council for full consideration in about two weeks, Mike, I believe. [0:53:25, 0:53:25]: Yes. [0:53:26, 0:53:34]: So again, this is just discussion, this is a public hearing, just to kind of give you an idea kind of what's coming up and what it's all about. So if you have any questions, I'd be happy to address them. [0:53:35, 0:53:53]: Is anything in two I'm s I'm sorry, Mayor. No. Uh Councilman Blount, did you have a question? Yeah. Is anything on this going to change in two weeks or this is what you're going to actually present in two weeks? That's that's exactly what's going to be presented. Well but we'll formally had uh along with the report, we'll have the the recommendation from the zoning advisory board. [0:53:53, 0:53:55]: Which will be for approval. [0:53:57, 0:54:01]: Well we can't approve it today because it has to go forth for right here. [0:54:01, 0:54:04]: Any other questions on this item? [0:54:04, 0:54:10]: If not we'll move along to item number five under discussion. This is a variance um [0:54:11, 0:54:15]: Station two, LP of Atlanta, Georgia request a variance. [0:54:15, 0:54:22]: from development standards for signage for the property located at four four four four four four four seventy five North Henry Boulevard. [0:54:22, 0:54:27]: The property is located in Land Lot sixty one of the twelfth district. [0:54:27, 0:54:47]: And uh right now this is about signage. So Mr Harris is gonna present this one also for discussion. Well actually I'm going to Madam Mayor, if you don't mind, I'm on a tag team with um the city attorney here. This is a variance for about fifteen items and he's gonna walk through some of the complexities of this. This was also heard by the Z A B and Mike will give you a description on what the [0:54:47, 0:54:48]: Talk about. [0:54:49, 0:55:02]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um you have before you a fairly complex looking uh variance request, but at the end of the day it it's not as complex as it as it appears to be. [0:55:03, 0:55:03]: Um [0:55:04, 0:55:11]: the zoning advisory board met and it and approved um a modified set of variances for this [0:55:11, 0:55:13]: Um I'm gonna walk you through just sort of [0:55:13, 0:55:17]: it at a ten thousand foot level what they approved and then [0:55:17, 0:55:25]: What we'd like to do is uh encourage you all to schedule uh brief meetings with the staff so we can go through'em [0:55:25, 0:55:45]: um line by line, offline just because I don't want to take up too much time this evening. Um but of course we will go through these line by line um to the extent necessary at the public hearing in in two weeks. As you all know at that location there's currently a Texaco and the operators of that gas station will [0:55:45, 0:55:48]: will remain the same. It's gonna be the same operator [0:55:48, 0:55:54]: They are just changing brands. Um their contract with Texaco uh is is set to expire. [0:55:54, 0:55:59]: um soon and rather than re sign with Texaco, they have opted to sign up with [0:56:00, 0:56:00]: Sonoko. [0:56:01, 0:56:07]: I believe that is Shell instead of Texco, isn't it? [0:56:07, 0:56:16]: Um and so rather than re sign with Shell they're gonna sign up with Snoco and they have a a vastly different branding [0:56:17, 0:56:20]: Um under the uh Sinoco um [0:56:20, 0:56:22]: national brand. [0:56:22, 0:56:29]: Um as a result when they were looking at the the changes in the sign faces and and the and the color scheme [0:56:29, 0:56:34]: Um we have since uh the shell was established. [0:56:34, 0:56:39]: Um we have adopted a new sign ordinance and in addition [0:56:39, 0:56:45]: Um we have the old downtown overlay that applies to this. And there are a number of provisions [0:56:45, 0:56:54]: um if red strictly would not allow them to move towards the SNOPO brand as sort of nationally recognized. [0:56:54, 0:56:56]: So they're having to do a lot of things. [0:56:57, 0:57:00]: um uh where they would have to do a lot of things if [0:57:00, 0:57:02]: They were not granted ovarians. [0:57:02, 0:57:09]: But we just need you to keep in mind it's an existing business, there are existing signs, there's existing awning. [0:57:09, 0:57:13]: Um and really what they're proposing to do is to change the color scheme. [0:57:14, 0:57:18]: and otherwise bring the uh the business into compliance. [0:57:19, 0:57:19]: So [0:57:20, 0:57:34]: By way of example, just to give you an indication of of the type of variance they're looking for, um the biggest uh variance potentially is i with respect to the color scheme. The old downtown overlay district, um [0:57:34, 0:57:36]: Establishes [0:57:36, 0:57:40]: uh or actually prohibits the use of primary colors [0:57:41, 0:57:45]: for signage and and external um surfaces of buildings. [0:57:45, 0:57:48]: Well if you look at the Sunoco branding it's [0:57:49, 0:57:51]: um blue, yellow and red. [0:57:51, 0:57:56]: And primary color. So and so they're asking for at least for that sign until they get a variance. [0:57:57, 0:58:01]: um as to the coloring. Um as to the height of the sign [0:58:01, 0:58:06]: Um our current sign ordinance um limits the height of the sign to eight feet. [0:58:07, 0:58:10]: Well there's an existing sign there that I believe is about thirty feet. [0:58:11, 0:58:14]: And so they're proposing to lower it to fourteen feet. [0:58:15, 0:58:20]: Well technically that's an increase o over eight feet, but they're actually lowering the height of the sign. [0:58:20, 0:58:24]: and changing the uh the structure of the sign. [0:58:25, 0:58:27]: to something that's more in compliance with our ordinance. [0:58:28, 0:58:48]: So th those are just examples of of what they're proposing to do to refurbish the exterior of the building, make it look uh do to frankly to improve uh the the nature of the building. Um one uh additional thing I'll mention tonight, and again we'd want you to w we want to walk through each of these in in detail. [0:58:47, 0:58:49]: Um [0:58:50, 0:58:52]: the the building where the old uh [0:58:52, 0:58:55]: downtown overlay district prohibits [0:58:55, 0:58:57]: the painting of masonry. [0:58:58, 0:59:02]: So technically they're not allowed to paint their building because they have a [0:59:02, 0:59:03]: Uh Cinder Block. [0:59:03, 0:59:18]: um construction, but it's been painted for years and years and years. And what they would like to do is repaint it and update the paint on that. Um sandblasting the paint off the building would make it look a lot worse. At least that's the estimation of the zoning advisory board. [0:59:19, 0:59:39]: So that's another example that they're uh uh recommending uh they be allowed to vary from the the the ordinance so that they can repaint the building, you know, a n a nice neutral color. That now the that actu actual portion of the building would not be a primary color. They're looking at sort of a off grey color just to to make the building uh [0:59:39, 0:59:40]: fresher and updated. [0:59:40, 0:59:41]: So that's [0:59:42, 0:59:48]: You know, aga again that's a ten thousand foot overview of the uh proposed set of variances. [0:59:48, 1:00:08]: And rather than um commenting on this, we're recommending that you all uh make an opportunity to meet with the staff um so that we can walk you through uh exactly why the zoning advisory board is is making these recommendations and then we'll represent that entire presentation uh at the public. [1:00:08, 1:00:10]: public hearing in a couple of weeks. [1:00:13, 1:00:16]: Okay. Are there any comments about this? [1:00:18, 1:00:38]: And you might want to check, I believe that sign they're gonna do is gonna include uh planners for flowers also. Yes, ma'am. That there there's a requirement that there be a three foot buffer around the the sign and and they're offering to to do some planners to to adjust for that. So yes ma'am. [1:00:38, 1:00:39]: Wash up the pictures. [1:00:39, 1:00:47]: Um yeah, I d I forgot to show you all pictures, so uh Mr. Harris is gonna bring those. Just real quick. This is [1:00:49, 1:00:53]: I understand I'll come back to you. I apologize. Go ahead, please. [1:00:54, 1:00:58]: Again, this is the existing site here, kind of what it looks like right now. [1:00:58, 1:00:59]: And [1:01:00, 1:01:03]: to Mr Worm's point. These are some of the [1:01:04, 1:01:05]: Colored [1:01:06, 1:01:08]: options that they were looking for, proposing [1:01:09, 1:01:10]: And [1:01:11, 1:01:12]: existing [1:01:13, 1:01:14]: Proposed [1:01:18, 1:01:22]: I think that's about it. Yeah. [1:01:23, 1:01:26]: This one and rotate it. [1:01:26, 1:01:28]: Okay. [1:01:28, 1:01:30]: Yeah. [1:01:34, 1:01:40]: So that that's a rendering of what they hope it will look like uh uh assuming the variance is grand. [1:01:41, 1:01:54]: Okay. Um I would just say that thank you so much for that presentation and the council if they need to know more will be able to drop in and talk to the city manager and find out. [1:01:54, 1:01:59]: more details. I think we have a question by uh Councilman John Blount. [1:01:59, 1:02:16]: The the other the other portion of the property, that is that included the the other portion that the uh that you do the emission? There's an emission station and that's part of the variance package. [1:02:16, 1:02:20]: uh color now they want to paint that the same blue as the Sunoko. [1:02:22, 1:02:28]: believe there is also a picture of Renim. [1:02:29, 1:02:32]: So it's all g the whole property's gonna match. [1:02:36, 1:02:37]: [3761.9, 3764.5]: Yeah, that's probably the best one. Yeah. [1:02:47, 1:02:48]: [3769.8, 3771.1]: I think that's but just uh [1:02:52, 1:02:53]: Yeah. [1:02:54, 1:02:58]: Yeah, you can see it back. That's existing look with the yellow back here. [1:02:58, 1:03:01]: And again propose as just shown. [1:03:02, 1:03:03]: [3783.8, 3790.6]: painting the building and taking all the other signage off and with just the blue fascia and the white lettering. [1:03:12, 1:03:14]: Okay, thank you both. [1:03:15, 1:03:22]: At this time we're going to ask if our city manager has any comments that he would like to make. Excuse me. [1:03:22, 1:03:42]: Let's go back and uh get a comment first from Pro Tem Ford. Actually, Mayor, what I did or first part of the meeting, we amended the agenda to add an item. I said number seven, but it's really number six. Remember I had a everybody everybody should have in front of them to include the clerk, the uh city manager as well as the uh city attorney, and says the city of Stockbridge proposal [1:03:42, 1:04:02]: And what Michael Harris and I received yesterday was a briefing of an update and an actual proposal that's before you by three outstanding citizens of Stockbridge are right back on the back. They're gonna come forward here and talk to us further about this. But this deals with the the city of Stockbridge being a sponsor for entrepreneurial [1:04:02, 1:04:22]: event in conjunction with this Advanced Technology Department Development Center, which is called the ATDC, and the Technology Association of Georgia, which is called the TAG, and the One Henry and Economic Alliance. Ladies and gentlemen, could you please come forward? Okay, so what you have here is uh uh you've got the Mrs. Sylvia, Ariel Shaw, and Gladwin [1:04:22, 1:04:24]: And um and supplies bowling. [1:04:25, 1:04:45]: Mode. And they're all members of this particular one Henry initiative. Once again they re I received a briefing yesterday uh w from them with Michael Harris. And what this amounts to is that uh it still is with incubators and entrepreneurs in the area and working out the the technology aspect, uh bringing it into Henry County itself. [1:04:45, 1:05:05]: itself and wanting to to have Stockbridge on the forefront of this new development to start these startup businesses in this aspect. So and they were looking for us to sponsor uh evening this event at Merrill Manors in June. Um in this as well, I believe the the dates scheduled date right now is June [1:05:05, 1:05:19]: twenty second provided it's available and I believe it still is, as well as provided that the council would want to support this initiative. So on that note, I'm gonna be quiet for a second and allow them to give a briefing and discussion as to have a discussion with the council. [1:05:20, 1:05:20]: Go ahead, please. [1:05:21, 1:05:27]: Mayor, uh members of city council, uh thanks for uh giving us a couple of minutes to talk about this. Uh two years ago [1:05:28, 1:05:29]: We said [1:05:29, 1:05:32]: Wouldn't it be good if Henry County [1:05:32, 1:05:35]: had a facility that help could help [1:05:35, 1:05:37]: produce its own local businesses. [1:05:38, 1:05:40]: And get'em on the ground, get'em started right. [1:05:41, 1:05:45]: Because so many people are trying to put businesses on the ground. [1:05:45, 1:05:48]: don't know the first question, which is who do you call? [1:05:49, 1:05:56]: How do you get it done? And depending on who they ask, uh, in Henry County they get a variety of answers. [1:05:57, 1:06:17]: So the idea of an incubator was born and we started really at point zero, uh didn't know what we didn't know and it was really tough to figure it out. Um over the period of our discovery learning, we ran into the ATDC, the Advanced Technology Development Centre. [1:06:17, 1:06:21]: which is organized under Georgia Tech. [1:06:21, 1:06:24]: But is eighty percent funded by the state. [1:06:26, 1:06:32]: And their mission is to develop technology incubators primarily. [1:06:32, 1:06:44]: And if you go to their offices uh on uh Fifth Street in downtown Atlanta, you will see about a dozen companies that are up on one floor with them that they're currently incubating. [1:06:45, 1:06:55]: everything from uh technology for uh uh medical uh advances to a uh machine that you can have mixed drinks from. [1:06:56, 1:07:00]: but it is a technology thing that uh the company is developing. [1:07:00, 1:07:04]: So uh we discovered that they had a process. [1:07:04, 1:07:12]: Now, we were about to make the same mistake a couple other communities have done, and that is to say, Oh, well where are we going to put this incubator? [1:07:13, 1:07:14]: Where where's our building? [1:07:15, 1:07:17]: Well you can't have uh [1:07:18, 1:07:18]: Other [1:07:19, 1:07:25]: municipalities, other counties have got themselves a building and then found out they had no process. [1:07:26, 1:07:27]: They walked in and heard echoes. [1:07:29, 1:07:33]: We have discovered that AT D C has been down this road many times. [1:07:34, 1:07:37]: and that they can help us develop the process. [1:07:37, 1:07:44]: And the main pro the beginning of that process is do we have any entrepreneurs in England County? Do you know? [1:07:44, 1:07:51]: I think I we do. I think we g but do we really know? So there is a study [1:07:51, 1:07:54]: uh that we have launched with them. [1:07:54, 1:07:56]: to determine the level of entrepreneurship. [1:07:57, 1:08:02]: Nothing happens for free. That study is costing thirty thousand dollars. [1:08:03, 1:08:08]: Fifteen thousand dollars of that is being paid by Henry County Development Authority. [1:08:09, 1:08:13]: The other fifteen thousand dollars we got paid with some of that state funding. [1:08:15, 1:08:19]: So by the time this twenty second of June rolls around [1:08:19, 1:08:22]: we will have a good idea of [1:08:22, 1:08:23]: what the entrepreneur [1:08:24, 1:08:25]: landscape looks like. [1:08:26, 1:08:29]: At this event we will begin to develop our process. [1:08:30, 1:08:35]: And to do that we'll have like six people on a panel who are entrepreneurs from Henry County. [1:08:35, 1:08:40]: And then ATDC will provide the primary speaker. [1:08:41, 1:08:42]: To talk about [1:08:43, 1:08:48]: how this entrepreneur sh uh process actually would work. [1:08:50, 1:08:56]: They provide training at a very zero level of hello, you want to make a company come in? [1:08:57, 1:09:02]: And that training they'll do for everybody, from a technology company [1:09:02, 1:09:04]: to a lawn mowing company. [1:09:05, 1:09:06]: They'll do it for anyone. [1:09:06, 1:09:26]: But the that process goes on and there's a weed out point in that process where they say, Okay, we've trained you up, now go out and find us where your customer base would be and come back and report to us. And they say only about twenty five percent of the companies come back and report, but then they've got the people that we know are serious. [1:09:27, 1:09:35]: So this m uh event on the twenty second of June would be the beginning to get that sort of process rolled. [1:09:36, 1:09:36]: Mm. [1:09:37, 1:09:40]: They do not ATD C [1:09:40, 1:09:44]: uh does not want to charge for that event, so we need to find sponsors. [1:09:45, 1:09:50]: When we first uh briefed some of the members of this council, there was a lot of interest in it. [1:09:50, 1:09:54]: So we thought that we would ask uh the city of Stockbridge [1:09:54, 1:09:57]: uh to take first pass at sponsoring it or not. [1:09:58, 1:10:02]: And I will say frankly today, uh Madam Mayor, where do you [1:10:02, 1:10:03]: Sponsor it or not? [1:10:04, 1:10:05]: We still want Shimba. [1:10:06, 1:10:09]: Uh w it will happen. We'll go out and find a sponsor. [1:10:10, 1:10:12]: But we would like for it to be you. [1:10:12, 1:10:21]: And uh but i if i you know, I know budgets and uh the issues because this will cost a little bit of money, not a huge amount. [1:10:22, 1:10:25]: But if you can do it, we'd love for you to do it. [1:10:26, 1:10:29]: If you can't sponsor it, we would still love for you to participate. [1:10:30, 1:10:34]: And subject to questions, ma'am, uh that would conclude our briefing. Okay. [1:10:34, 1:10:38]: Um anybody else in your group have a comment that you'd like to make? [1:10:40, 1:10:56]: All right, good evening. My name is Richard Sylvia and I actually sit on the Henry County Chamber of Commerce board, also sit on the Executive Committee with one Henry, and I actually am the uh chairperson for the professional services and corporate solutions subcommittee under one Henry. [1:10:57, 1:11:05]: Good evening, Mayor. Good evening, Council. So we actually had a meeting with Council maybe about four or five months ago to talk about [1:11:06, 1:11:06]: The incubator. [1:11:07, 1:11:08]: And [1:11:08, 1:11:11]: It's extremely important for people to understand the [1:11:11, 1:11:14]: economic impact that the incubator will have on Henry County? [1:11:15, 1:11:22]: As uh Mr Boland was sharing, we actually have two of the premier technology organizations within Georgia. [1:11:23, 1:11:26]: that are actually going to help us move forward the incubator. [1:11:27, 1:11:30]: We also have the support of the Henry County Development Authority. [1:11:30, 1:11:31]: Who's actually [1:11:32, 1:11:35]: invested the first fifteen thousand dollars within the incubator. [1:11:36, 1:11:46]: Right. So the incubator is actually gonna be twofold. One it's gonna be technology centric with an AT D C component, as Mr. Bolin shared with you, but then the other piece would be a business incubator. [1:11:46, 1:11:48]: that will look at other professional services type [1:11:49, 1:11:51]: organisations and businesses. [1:11:52, 1:11:58]: Right now there are other cities within Henry County who would like the incubator situated there. [1:11:58, 1:12:01]: When I first started with one one Henry two years ago [1:12:01, 1:12:03]: Our mission was to be able to develop [1:12:04, 1:12:05]: A technology [1:12:06, 1:12:08]: presence south of Atlanta. [1:12:09, 1:12:11]: And then so doing [1:12:11, 1:12:13]: We would like the incubator to live here. [1:12:14, 1:12:19]: So what we're asking is with this first component relative to the feasibility of the study that's being done, [1:12:20, 1:12:23]: that Stockbridge supports [1:12:23, 1:12:24]: and sponsors the incubator. [1:12:25, 1:12:29]: So you guys have a leg up on the other cities relative to where this incubator is gonna sit? [1:12:30, 1:12:33]: Right. So the incubator's gonna be historic here in Henry County. [1:12:33, 1:12:37]: So let's make no mistake about the impact that it's going to have on economic development. [1:12:37, 1:12:39]: Right. So right now seventy percent [1:12:40, 1:12:43]: of the students that we educate in Henry County leave. [1:12:44, 1:12:47]: They go somewhere else and we lose the tax base. [1:12:48, 1:12:52]: What the incubator will help do is actually keep some of our [1:12:53, 1:12:57]: educated students here because it gives them an opportunity to build their own business here. [1:12:58, 1:13:01]: The incubator won't be in an entity by itself. We're actually looking at [1:13:02, 1:13:05]: potentially having a secondary education being part of it. [1:13:05, 1:13:07]: Whether it's Clayton, whether it's Gordon, whether it's Mercer, [1:13:08, 1:13:10]: Well, there's some combination thereof. [1:13:10, 1:13:14]: as well as our workforce development committee that will also sit within the incubator. [1:13:15, 1:13:15]: Space. [1:13:16, 1:13:20]: So at this point we're still at the very beginning of what we're trying to do here. [1:13:21, 1:13:30]: However, we want to give you guys the first opportunity to partner with One Henry and the Incubator Project to ensure its success. [1:13:30, 1:13:43]: Okay. Any other comments? No. Um I'd like you to come back to the mic, one of you, and be very specific as to what you're asking of the city council tonight. [1:13:46, 1:13:50]: What we need for the sponsorship of this event. [1:13:50, 1:13:50]: Yeah. [1:13:51, 1:13:53]: would potentially be on the twenty second of June all [1:13:54, 1:13:55]: things lining up. [1:13:56, 1:14:00]: is we'd uh want the use of of the facility, which is we would [1:14:01, 1:14:03]: suspect M Merle Manders for that. [1:14:04, 1:14:09]: And then we would like uh to cater with some light hors d'oeuvres. [1:14:09, 1:14:12]: And a at the request of ATDC [1:14:13, 1:14:17]: They would like that caterer to have a poor license for uh beer and wine. [1:14:18, 1:14:19]: Uh [1:14:19, 1:14:23]: And so it is the facility, the food and the drink. [1:14:24, 1:14:28]: Uh and ma'am, we don't have a we don't have a specific number on that yet. [1:14:28, 1:14:33]: uh because we would uh we'd look for your guidance on on who you'd want us to use. [1:14:34, 1:14:53]: Since it would be basically asking is the use of the facility and for the city to underwrite the cost of any catering for that event. Is that correct? Exactly it. Plus the beer and the wine, which I don't think we can purchase. Is that correct, Mr Attorney? [1:14:54, 1:14:55]: It's allowed. [1:14:56, 1:15:00]: We we actually uh see the beer and wine being a no host bar. [1:15:01, 1:15:05]: so that the attendees would actually pay for their drinks. But the [1:15:05, 1:15:14]: So to set up a cash. We would just say that the c the uh cater caterer should have a poor license so they can provide that service. [1:15:15, 1:15:15]: Okay. [1:15:16, 1:15:16]: All right. [1:15:17, 1:15:18]: Um [1:15:18, 1:15:21]: Anything else that would be expected? [1:15:22, 1:15:26]: Long term, short term. The one other discussion that we had was uh [1:15:27, 1:15:29]: about how we publicize this event. [1:15:29, 1:15:34]: And uh you know, we we would certainly welcome any uh [1:15:34, 1:15:35]: Uh [1:15:35, 1:15:52]: organized efforts you have for publicising an event, but Ju Henry actually has a Image and Communications subcommittee, as you well know, that uh would be in charge of public publicising the event as would ATDC. [1:15:52, 1:15:56]: and tag the the Technology Association of Georgia. [1:15:56, 1:15:59]: Okay, I don't think that would be a problem. [1:15:59, 1:16:03]: Publicizing it. Okay, I'm gonna turn this back over to Mr. Ford. [1:16:04, 1:16:10]: Well actually, Mayor, I would uh actually ask the council if they got any c uh uh questions or discussion before [1:16:10, 1:16:11]: So I would imagine they'd have some. [1:16:12, 1:16:13]: Uh so [1:16:13, 1:16:33]: I'll go right here, sir. Well, I I want to thank you all for bringing this tremendous endeavor here because it's something that we want to do to partner to bring um professional services jobs to the north end of the county, partnering with our region. I think one of the [1:16:33, 1:16:35]: [4595.3, 4615.3]: We'd like to talk I I'd like to maybe get a a few words on is we say it many a time the new slogan around Hartsville is that we're um you know, we're two hours away from anywhere in America. Well Stockbridge is two hours and twenty minutes away from anywhere in America. So you talk about maybe the the the enhancements uh [1:16:55, 1:16:58]: of attracting businesses n nationwide the stock bridge. [1:17:01, 1:17:06]: The efforts [1:17:06, 1:17:14]: in the total program to attract businesses to Stockbridge uh involving the incubator nationwide. [1:17:17, 1:17:20]: I still don't understand specifically what the question is. [1:17:20, 1:17:21]: Go ahead. [1:17:21, 1:17:22]: Make sure to make it. [1:17:23, 1:17:25]: So let me try to answer that question for you. [1:17:25, 1:17:35]: So with one Henry, it it's not just about an incubator and it's not just about professional services. Mm-hmm. So if any of you have been to any of the One Henry meetings, I know that I've seen probably at least [1:17:36, 1:17:42]: three, maybe four year faces that have been part of the meetings, we're actually looking at increasing the quality [1:17:43, 1:17:44]: Of life. [1:17:44, 1:17:45]: For Henry County citizens. [1:17:46, 1:17:50]: Right, so there's a five prong approach that we take relative to the one Henry mission. [1:17:50, 1:17:53]: And we look at workforce development, we look at [1:17:54, 1:18:05]: Professional Services and Corporate Solutions, which is the committee that we're actually representing today, there's an entire image and communications component to try to change the face of how the rest of [1:18:05, 1:18:09]: South of the city you see. Right. In the eyes of of [1:18:10, 1:18:15]: the rest of Metro Atlanta. If you will. There's a workforce development component. [1:18:15, 1:18:18]: And then there's also an industrial component and [1:18:19, 1:18:27]: Uh what I call an example of what these guys have done is actually the CID that we have south of the city where we're actually actually asking the businesses there [1:18:28, 1:18:29]: To spend money. [1:18:30, 1:18:32]: Right, tax themselves to make that area better. [1:18:33, 1:18:42]: Right. So I'm trying to get to your question be because your question is very broad. Right. Right? Mm. And la I'm sorry, and last but not least is uh arts and leisure. [1:18:42, 1:18:45]: Right. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Right. So [1:18:47, 1:18:49]: It it's a it's an ecosystem. [1:18:50, 1:18:51]: Around [1:18:52, 1:18:53]: What we're trying to do [1:18:54, 1:18:58]: that which we need to build in order to be able to attract corporations here. [1:18:58, 1:19:00]: So when you talk about Hartsfield [1:19:00, 1:19:03]: We're two hours away from anywhere in the world. [1:19:03, 1:19:10]: probably a little more than that. Right? However, we need to be able to take advantage of the busiest airport in the world. [1:19:11, 1:19:13]: In most of what we do. [1:19:14, 1:19:14]: Keep that in mind. [1:19:15, 1:19:24]: Right, so when we talk about the incubator and its proximity, potentially, to seventy five, it puts us in a great position. [1:19:24, 1:19:27]: to be able to attract all types of different [1:19:29, 1:19:30]: Industries. [1:19:30, 1:19:33]: professional services organizations and technology companies. [1:19:35, 1:19:38]: Did I answer your question? Yes, sir, you did. Okay, thank you. [1:19:39, 1:19:54]: Are there any other questions or comments? Yes, Mayor. Councilman Robinson. I wanted to r I sit on the board for the capital committee so I didn't know. Wanna reach out to the attorney if there's something I can comment on, vote on, is there anything [1:19:55, 1:19:57]: It's just best to [1:19:57, 1:20:01]: state what you just stated and then to recuse yourself from the rest of the discussion. [1:20:03, 1:20:04]: Merdale. [1:20:05, 1:20:10]: Yes, Councilwoman Gantt. I have a question as well. I um have a [1:20:10, 1:20:14]: relationship, business relationship with one of the presenters today. [1:20:15, 1:20:26]: Uh as a attorney client or anything of that nature, or is well that is that something I have to recuse myself from? As long as it's not related to one Henry, I don't see a a conflict. [1:20:26, 1:20:26]: Thank you. [1:20:29, 1:20:31]: Anyone else have comment or question? [1:20:33, 1:20:34]: Okay. [1:20:35, 1:20:39]: It was a um uh presentation about I guess about five months ago. [1:20:40, 1:20:43]: Something like that. And I can't remember if the whole council was there or not. [1:20:44, 1:20:45]: I I d I don't remember. [1:20:46, 1:20:47]: Um [1:20:47, 1:20:50]: So basically what your your your potentials here [1:20:51, 1:20:53]: But what you see in here is is is [1:20:53, 1:20:57]: Is it just primarily an event or your potential for [1:20:58, 1:21:00]: You're starting your [1:21:01, 1:21:02]: Business. [1:21:02, 1:21:03]: The A committee. [1:21:04, 1:21:07]: So the event is the first step. [1:21:07, 1:21:09]: In the feasibility study? [1:21:09, 1:21:13]: Again, so when we talked to you guys before we were just talking concept. [1:21:13, 1:21:14]: We just had ideas. [1:21:15, 1:21:15]: Right. [1:21:16, 1:21:18]: Now the rubber meets the road when we get the [1:21:19, 1:21:22]: development authority to drop fifteen thousand dollars and invest in the program. [1:21:23, 1:21:25]: Right. So we have [1:21:26, 1:21:28]: A T D C tag involved. [1:21:29, 1:21:31]: We have the development authority involved. [1:21:31, 1:21:34]: We have the Henry County Chamber of Commerce involved. [1:21:35, 1:21:36]: It's no longer just an idea. [1:21:37, 1:21:41]: I mean we're going to move forward with this. However, we still need to understand the feasibility. [1:21:42, 1:21:45]: of the incubator and to ensure that [1:21:45, 1:21:50]: from an entrepreneurial perspective and from a Henry County perspective that is going to be supported. [1:21:51, 1:21:55]: So we could take this idea and just keep moving with it. However, that probably wouldn't be prudent. [1:21:56, 1:21:59]: and a good way to be able to spend our taxpayers' money. [1:21:59, 1:22:03]: Right. So again the event will be one of many events. [1:22:03, 1:22:04]: That are hosted. [1:22:04, 1:22:05]: So [1:22:06, 1:22:08]: truly understand the feasibility. [1:22:08, 1:22:10]: in the support around an incubator? [1:22:11, 1:22:16]: But there's also a capital campaign that we're working on, so we're not looking for Stockbridge to [1:22:17, 1:22:19]: Fun the entire incubator. [1:22:20, 1:22:25]: Right now we're in the process of developing we're in the process of putting together a capital campaign [1:22:25, 1:22:29]: that will probably pay for most of that incubator. [1:22:30, 1:22:30]: Right? [1:22:30, 1:22:36]: We're still in the very beginning stages of that strategic plan, so I am sitting on that council as well. [1:22:36, 1:22:37]: Um [1:22:38, 1:22:43]: And I would imagine probably within the next couple of months we'll understand what that entire capital campaign looks like. [1:22:44, 1:22:54]: and the monies that will be donated over a five year period to be able to support that along with probably three to five probably three other potential ideas. [1:22:54, 1:22:56]: That we'd like to [1:22:56, 1:22:57]: implement and see [1:22:58, 1:23:03]: included within Henry County again to increase quality life here. [1:23:04, 1:23:24]: Uh yes. Yes. Well what I understand here of course is uh manners I believe is still available on the twenty second of June if we want to improve this. So if if we approve this, this is like a city sponsored event, w just like when we have anything else like a um a um job fair there, things of this nature, it would be the city would encompass just give up that particular [1:23:24, 1:23:44]: particular facility. In the proposal it says an estimate of roughly three thousand dollars for food or purchasing of alcohol, whatever the case may be, uh for that event. Uh so I'm sorry, is that wrong? Not to purchase alcohol. I'm sorry, excuse me. Excuse me. That's right. Give me straight. Give me straight. So it it's just facility cost and then [1:23:44, 1:24:04]: Yes sir. Alright, so in here is three three grand for that. So the question would be um the three thousand dollars, I I know obviously this is not budgeted, where would that come or how if we want to approve this, where would that come out of and then and then uh whether [1:24:04, 1:24:05]: [5047.2, 5056.3]: Given that this event isn't scheduled until June and to the point we did check with the availability at Merle Manders is it is available. [1:24:16, 1:24:17]: So it's been placed on hold. [1:24:18, 1:24:22]: dependent upon the outcome of this meeting. But in speaking with our treasurer, Miss Neighbors [1:24:23, 1:24:30]: Because it's in June we know we're going to be having a uh discussion regarding a budget amendment, quarterly budget amendment in April. [1:24:30, 1:24:33]: A recommendation would be that um if it's a [1:24:33, 1:24:53]: approved and it's the will of the council to move forward that it be included in that amendment in April. Okay. On that note then, Madam Mayor, if you don't mind, I'd like to make a motion that we uh uh accept this uh sponsorship uh for this one Henry initiative scheduled for twenty second June at Merrill Manors Conference Center. [1:24:53, 1:24:54]: Circle. [1:24:55, 1:25:04]: Okay, we have a motion by Councilman uh our Pro Tem Ford with a second by Councilman uh Alexander. [1:25:05, 1:25:06]: Any discussion? [1:25:07, 1:25:09]: Yes, the three thousand dollars. [1:25:10, 1:25:11]: Because [1:25:12, 1:25:13]: Because there's still some [1:25:14, 1:25:34]: We we're not getting a whole uh and then there's still some must assuming that you guys want some other things happen. So are we talking about a function that doesn't exceed three thousand dollars or do or do you all know it's gonna be more than three thousand dollars? That would be not to exceed three thousand dollars. And actually when we put that number together we were thinking we were gonna [1:25:34, 1:25:45]: gonna be paying dollars for a facility. So um you know, I can't put a a a hard dollar number on it now, but I I don't think we approach three thousand dollars at this point. [1:25:47, 1:25:47]: Okay. [1:25:49, 1:25:50]: All right. Any other [1:25:51, 1:25:52]: Discussion [1:25:53, 1:25:54]: If not, all in favor. [1:25:57, 1:26:06]: All right. No opposed. Congratulations. Passed. Ma'am, we thank you and the council for your time. All right. [1:26:13, 1:26:15]: [5175.6, 5180.8]: Uh let me ask our clerk, did you get all of their names for the first time? [1:26:21, 1:26:21]: Good. [1:26:21, 1:26:26]: Good to go. Um at this time we will ask our city manager for comments. [1:26:27, 1:26:39]: Yes, thank you, Madam Mayor. I d I did want to make the council and the public um aware that we have brought on a new community development director, Ms. Camilla Moore. Um she actually [1:26:39, 1:26:59]: She was able to start a little bit early, so Jesse came in a week earlier, otherwise she would have been here this evening. Um she had a prior engagement. But at the next meeting we'll do a formal introduction. But she's already gotten very much involved into the processes on what's going on and and and and and already gotten delved into a number of issues that we've been working on. So um but [1:26:59, 1:27:05]: Glad to have her on board and again next time at the next meeting we'll be able to do a more formal introduction for the uh for the public as well. [1:27:06, 1:27:08]: Great, thank you. Any other comments? [1:27:09, 1:27:13]: Um we'll start now with Councilman Alexander if you have a comment. [1:27:13, 1:27:33]: I do. I'd like to thank everybody for participating as usual. And um, you know, it's always encouraging to see people come out and uh you know participate in the democratic process of moving Stockbridge forward. You know, I always want to be uh good stewards of the city's s city's money in every instance. [1:27:33, 1:27:42]: And uh that's kinda what we want to do. And while we endeavor to spend the necessary funds in order to make the city [1:27:42, 1:28:02]: uh prosperous and to fulfill the new vision and mission statement that we put forward. So I definitely uh appreciate uh you all coming out participating. We have a um uh good w uh partnership with Goodwill continues on April the sixth. We have uh the next career expo [1:28:02, 1:28:22]: And this time it's gonna be at Ted Strickland um community center uh so that we can continue to bring job opportunities uh to the citizens in our community, always uh giving back. And I would like I didn't thank the uh volunteers uh for uh the litter campaign [1:28:22, 1:28:31]: along Jodico Road, including uh count commission chairwoman June Wood who was out there with us. Uh it makes a whole lot of difference. [1:28:31, 1:28:39]: When everybody rolls up their sleeves and gets involved in the community and you're seeing the tangible results of us moving the city forward. Thank you. [1:28:40, 1:28:41]: Councilman Bullen. [1:28:43, 1:28:45]: Yeah, I just want to say, um, as a city [1:28:46, 1:28:51]: My prayer's always been that we make the best decision for our city and we move the city forward. Uh [1:28:52, 1:28:53]: As a collaborative effort. [1:28:54, 1:28:58]: Uh we're gonna be having the National Day of Prayer, uh the first Thursday of May. [1:28:59, 1:29:00]: Here at uh city hall. [1:29:01, 1:29:03]: So I would like everyone to come out to that because [1:29:03, 1:29:05]: I believe God answered prayers and [1:29:06, 1:29:08]: We surely need it in government. [1:29:08, 1:29:18]: Um I just wanna s just as my colleagues and just address them today and just say, you know, whatever we need to do to work together to move the city forward, let's continue to do that. [1:29:20, 1:29:40]: Yeah, uh Protem Forward. Thank you, Mayor. Appreciate it. Uh folks, the month of April is uh it's actually in our uh upcoming events, Paint Henry Blue. And we have a kickoff campaign right here at Stockbridge at Merrill Manor's Conference Center this Thursday at six thirty. And now the reason why I want to mention that to you is that uh during the course of the month of [1:29:40, 1:30:00]: of April to support um against any activity against child abuse, I guess it is. Uh life for you too as much as you can wear blue during the course of the month. Month of April, wear blue tie, blue jacket, shirt, whatever. Try to wear blue as much as you can to support the uh this uh this activity to uh protect our children and [1:29:59, 1:30:05]: And it's always good to have you uh to continue to engage uh with the uh [1:30:05, 1:30:08]: with the council as we continue to do the best we can to move the city forward and [1:30:08, 1:30:12]: and do your people's work. Okay. God bless you all. Thank you. [1:30:13, 1:30:14]: Councilwoman Gantt. [1:30:16, 1:30:20]: Thank everyone for coming out tonight and thank you for your continued prayers and support. [1:30:23, 1:30:26]: Councilwoman Robinson. Um just wanna thank everyone for coming out. [1:30:27, 1:30:27]: Thank you. [1:30:28, 1:30:29]: Okay, thank you. [1:30:30, 1:30:37]: Um at this time um I wanna just ask our um city attorney, do we have any issues for executive session? [1:30:38, 1:30:38]: Yes, ma'am. [1:30:42, 1:30:47]: Okay. Um at this time we're just gonna put a pause on and um [1:30:48, 1:31:03]: Let me let me just say a couple of things though. Um just in case anyone has to leave while we're in executive session, uh we do have upcoming city meetings and you're gonna find those announcements either on the city website [1:31:03, 1:31:06]: You're gonna find them on our Facebook page. [1:31:06, 1:31:13]: or by talking to someone at the city hall you can find out anything going on. We have a city job fair. [1:31:14, 1:31:19]: in partnership with Goodwill Industries to be held on Thursday, April sixth. [1:31:19, 1:31:22]: this year at the Ted Strickland Community Center. [1:31:23, 1:31:28]: That will be coming up right away. We have a council work session on April tenth. [1:31:28, 1:31:33]: That's where we will have an update, a quarterly update on the city's finances. [1:31:33, 1:31:40]: And all city offices will be closed on Friday, April fourteenth, in observance of Good Friday. [1:31:40, 1:31:56]: We have uh upcoming council member community meetings, uh Coffee with a cop, Unity in Community, a beautification project, nonprofit social mixer. Um these things are in your tonight's um [1:31:57, 1:32:09]: um agenda and I would encourage you to take that with you so you can retain all of these dates. We also have some upcoming civic events as Pro Tem Ford alluded to, the Paint Henry Blue. [1:32:10, 1:32:15]: And Georgia Cities Week and Unity in the Community, another event with them. [1:32:16, 1:32:19]: And then on a Saturday, April twenty ninth. [1:32:19, 1:32:35]: the um Main Street program will be having a city yard sale. So if you have anything at home that you would like to get rid of, um sale, you need to participate in the city yard sale. So we're gonna pause at this time. [1:32:36, 1:32:44]: And go into executive session. So do I hear a motion to go into executive session? [1:32:46, 1:32:53]: Ma'am, I move that we go into executive session for the purpose of real estate litigation and personnel. Second. [1:32:54, 1:33:02]: Okay, we have a motion by Councilwoman Gantt and a second by Councilman Alexander to go into executive session. [1:33:02, 1:33:07]: Um all in any discussion about that? All in favor of going there. [1:33:07, 1:33:09]: All right. Thank you. We'll be back soon. [1:33:23, 1:33:24]: Oh thank you. [1:33:27, 1:33:32]: But wrong wrong. [1:45:35, 1:45:35]: Yeah. [1:45:38, 1:45:40]: Yeah, yeah. [1:47:20, 1:47:25]: So [1:49:32, 1:49:33]: Yeah. Yeah. [1:49:35, 1:49:37]: [6582.5, 6595.1]: Um I think that's the right. [1:50:09, 1:50:17]: [6619.1, 6621.5]: I think what I'm saying. [1:50:28, 1:50:37]: Okay, uh people are basically [1:54:24, 1:54:30]: Oh yeah, it's just like [1:54:42, 1:54:44]: Yeah. [1:57:43, 1:57:49]: [7501.8, 7508.5]: [2:05:09, 2:05:11]: [7512.9, 7517.5]: Oh yeah, see more. [2:05:18, 2:05:20]: [8450.0, 8465.0]: [2:22:01, 2:22:02]: Uh uh. [2:23:23, 2:23:24]: Uh uh. [2:23:30, 2:23:36]: And uh so [2:23:37, 2:23:40]: But [2:23:41, 2:23:48]: Yes, sir. I'm still in City Hall. I was trying to get out of here. There's so much stuff going on here. [2:23:52, 2:23:56]: Yeah, [2:23:57, 2:24:01]: Oh yeah. [2:24:01, 2:24:10]: I think that's what I mean about six three. [3:08:35, 3:08:43]: They should be able to go to what's the other one. [3:10:30, 3:10:40]: [13299.5, 13301.4]: [3:41:43, 3:41:47]: Oh okay. You you yeah, you ain't got more stake or nothing like that. [3:41:51, 3:41:52]: Okay. [3:42:12, 3:42:15]: Boy, it is some kind of code in this place. [3:42:17, 3:42:18]: [13339.5, 13343.2]: Right? They're right here. Let's show it. [3:42:25, 3:42:26]: [13365.9, 13370.7]: At this time I need a motion to end the executive session. No move. [3:42:51, 3:42:53]: Um motion uh back [3:42:54, 3:42:59]: President Pro Tem Ford. Do I hear a second? Second by Councilman Alexander. [3:42:59, 3:43:01]: Is there any discussion? [3:43:02, 3:43:04]: If not, all in favor? [3:43:05, 3:43:06]: Okay. [3:43:07, 3:43:08]: Okay. [3:43:09, 3:43:17]: All right, at this time I'm going to um ask for a motion to come back into our meeting. [3:43:17, 3:43:18]: So moved. [3:43:18, 3:43:20]: Do I hear second? Second. [3:43:21, 3:43:24]: Second by Robinson and the motion was by Ford. [3:43:25, 3:43:28]: Um at this time do I hear any discussion? [3:43:29, 3:43:31]: If not, all in favor? [3:43:33, 3:43:37]: Okay, we're back in the meeting. Oh sorry. [3:43:42, 3:43:48]: Okay, here we go. Mayor. Mayor. I think a clerk you have a question? [3:43:50, 3:44:00]: I just need to put into the record that Councilwoman Gantt did um attend the meeting at six o'clock PM and exit it during executive session. [3:44:00, 3:44:01]: Okay. [3:44:01, 3:44:07]: Do we need do we need uh to d you just need to put it in there? Okay, you're gonna put that in the motion. [3:44:08, 3:44:12]: I mean in the minutes. Okay. At this time, um [3:44:12, 3:44:24]: We have um a few things that we need to take care of. Let's start announcement. Uh first with our announcement that unfortunately we are losing our city manager. [3:44:25, 3:44:45]: Um Michael Harris has um tendered his resignation and he will be accepting another position back in the private sector and I think it goes without saying how much we care and think of Michael and we wish him the absolute best and he's gonna be terrific and helpful. [3:44:45, 3:44:48]: helping us prepare for who's to follow. [3:44:48, 3:44:51]: If you do you have any comments you'd like to make? [3:44:52, 3:45:10]: No, it's just it's it's been a pleasure to be able to have the opportunity to serve um this community and and and and and this mayor and council and prior mayor and council as well. And um I just on behalf of my and my family we're it's appreciative of the opportunity that we've had and and look forward to seeing more great things happen here in the city of Stockbridge. [3:45:11, 3:45:30]: Thank you. Thank you. And best wishes. Uh at this time uh due to the uh resignation of our city manager, we um have discussed um retaining a search firm and I'm gonna ask if there is a council member who has a motion related to that. [3:45:30, 3:45:44]: Well I will say thank you mayor, I will say that uh make a motion that we retain a search firm to find a outstanding uh city manager that can fulfill the shoes that the big shoes that Michael Harris is now leaving behind. [3:45:45, 3:45:47]: Okay, we have a motion. Do I hear a second? [3:45:48, 3:45:48]: Second. [3:45:48, 3:45:54]: We have a second from Councilman Alexander. All in favor to hire the search firm. [3:45:55, 3:45:56]: Thank you for your vote. [3:45:56, 3:46:16]: Okay. This time we have another um matter of um importance and that will be we I'm gonna refer that out to our uh city attorney and he will tell us about it. Um Madam Mayor, um based on uh recommendations from staff, um we would ask that a motion be made [3:46:16, 3:46:27]: to hire the firm of Massey, Watson and Hembry uh for their services, professional services in the amount not to exceed sixty seven thousand dollars. [3:46:29, 3:46:30]: Some of the [3:46:30, 3:46:31]: Second. [3:46:33, 3:46:34]: Any discussion? [3:46:37, 3:46:39]: No discussion. All in favor? [3:46:41, 3:46:53]: Madam Mayor, in addition, we'd like the staff would like to recommend and ask that a motion be made to hire the professional services of Meredith Weaver, also in the amount not to exceed sixty seven thousand. [3:46:55, 3:46:56]: Do I hear that motion? [3:46:57, 3:46:58]: Shall move. [3:46:58, 3:46:59]: Do I hear a second? [3:47:02, 3:47:04]: Okay. Uh motion back. Um [3:47:05, 3:47:11]: Present protem forward and a second by uh Councilman Robinson. Uh any discussion on that? [3:47:13, 3:47:15]: No discussion. All in favor? [3:47:17, 3:47:22]: Right, thank you. Uh are there any other matters for discussion? [3:47:22, 3:47:23]: If not [3:47:24, 3:47:31]: Um I will just say that the evening do I hear a motion? Gotta have a motion. Yes. No. To adjourn. Right. [3:47:31, 3:47:33]: I'd like to make a motion that we adjourn the meeting. [3:47:33, 3:47:35]: Okay, do I hear a second? [3:47:36, 3:47:37]: We have a motion and a second. [3:47:38, 3:47:40]: All in any discussion. [3:47:42, 3:47:43]: All in favour. [3:47:43, 3:47:44]: All right. [3:47:44, 3:47:46]: Meeting's over. Thank you. [3:47:52, 3:47:55]: All right, what happened? Steve, did you see? [3:47:55, 3:47:56]: Oh no.

--- title: March 13 2017 City Council Meeting date: 2017-03-13 source: 2017-03-13_March_13_2017_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:03]: We're calling this meeting to order at this time. [0:00:04, 0:00:04]: Mm-hmm. [0:00:05, 0:00:12]: And I'd like to call uh Pastor Danang Watkett, if he's in the audience. [0:00:12, 0:00:17]: If he would please come up, he's gonna um present our invocation for us this evening. [0:00:18, 0:00:20]: Sir, you come right here. [0:00:23, 0:00:25]: Everyone would stand. [0:00:29, 0:00:41]: For the invocation I just want to give honor to our mayor, city council, and the administration and the entire city of Stockbridge. Heavenly Father, in Jesus' name we pray tonight. We thank you [0:00:42, 0:00:46]: For your glorious presence. We thank you for your wisdom. We thank you for your strength. [0:00:47, 0:00:51]: We thank you for this government that you have placed here in this city. [0:00:52, 0:00:54]: [ 54.6, 55.8]: You've given them wisdom. [0:00:56, 0:00:57]: To govern your people. [0:00:58, 0:00:59]: With stewardship. [0:01:00, 0:01:01]: We thank you for the citizens. [0:01:02, 0:01:03]: Of this great city. [0:01:04, 0:01:08]: I request tonight, Heavenly Fathers, that you would be in the midst of this meeting [0:01:10, 0:01:11]: Give us direction. [0:01:11, 0:01:12]: Give us insight. [0:01:13, 0:01:16]: And we thank you, Father, that when the righteous are in authority [0:01:17, 0:01:18]: The city rejoices. [0:01:19, 0:01:21]: We thank you for your grace and mercy. [0:01:22, 0:01:24]: We pray peace, we pray [0:01:24, 0:01:25]: Strength. [0:01:26, 0:01:28]: We pray a newness [0:01:29, 0:01:30]: We pray a refreshing [0:01:31, 0:01:32]: We pray oneness. [0:01:33, 0:01:35]: We come against a vision. [0:01:36, 0:01:36]: In this city. [0:01:38, 0:01:41]: We give all glory, honor, and praise to you unashamedly. [0:01:41, 0:01:50]: In Jesus' name we pray and we give you thanks. Amen. Would remain standing. We're going to pledge allegiance to them they are conflict. [0:01:51, 0:01:55]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. [0:01:56, 0:02:04]: And to the republic for which he stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:02:04, 0:02:05]: Thank you, sir. Thank you. [0:02:09, 0:02:16]: At this time we're going to ask our clerk, Vanessa Holliday, if she will have our roll call, please. Councilman Alexander. [0:02:17, 0:02:18]: Councilman Blant. [0:02:19, 0:02:27]: Mayor Neal. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilwoman Robinson. Present. Mayor Neal, you have a quorum. [0:02:27, 0:02:28]: Thank you. [0:02:31, 0:02:34]: At this time I need a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:02:34, 0:02:35]: Mayor Neal. [0:02:36, 0:02:37]: Uh. [0:02:37, 0:02:57]: Okay, I hear a motion from Councilman Alexander. Do I hear a second? No. I I need to state the motion. However, uh I'd like to um amend the agenda to add one item if uh we possibly could. Um we want us to discuss uh upcoming uh potential projects or if [0:02:57, 0:03:06]: events which is uh the July fourth event and uh potential uh city of Eagles Landing. Um [0:03:07, 0:03:26]: Discussion. Okay. We've we hear the motion to discuss a fourth of July event and uh discuss uh about the Eagles landing potential city. Do do I hear a motion I've heard the motion. Do I hear a second to the I'll second that. All right, we have a motion and a second. All in favor? [0:03:28, 0:03:31]: Okay, four to one. Thank you. [0:03:33, 0:03:39]: Well, I'm in favor. Oh, sorry. Didn't see your hand go up. Thank you. Okay. Thank you so much. [0:03:40, 0:03:43]: At this time we're going to adopt the minutes. [0:03:43, 0:03:44]: Excuse me, Madam Mayor. [0:03:45, 0:03:50]: Um there was a staff request for also amending to adding the [0:03:51, 0:03:55]: playground equipment on if the council would be amenable. [0:03:56, 0:04:05]: I b I believe that you all have this sheet, which is what the city manager is discussing. Do I hear a motion that we add that item to the agenda? Yes. [0:04:06, 0:04:07]: Yes. Uh Councilman Blount. [0:04:09, 0:04:11]: Yeah, I move that we add the uh [0:04:12, 0:04:20]: uh the discussions and uh with the uh new newly uh pre playground uh equipment to be added to the agenda. [0:04:20, 0:04:23]: Is that what we need to do? [0:04:23, 0:04:26]: That would be under new business. Yes. Okay. [0:04:27, 0:04:27]: Five seconds. [0:04:28, 0:04:32]: All right, we have a motion in a second. All in favor? [0:04:32, 0:04:33]: Okay. [0:04:33, 0:04:34]: [290.5, 292.9]: Okay. At this time uh [0:04:53, 0:05:01]: I need a motion to adopt the minutes of the uh January ninth and the January thirty first meetings. [0:05:02, 0:05:03]: Do I hear a motion? [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: So moved. [0:05:04, 0:05:05]: Do I hear a second? [0:05:06, 0:05:07]: A second. [0:05:08, 0:05:15]: Okay, we have a motion by Pro Tem Ford and a second by Councilwoman Gantt. Do uh all in favor? [0:05:17, 0:05:19]: Okay, thank you. [0:05:23, 0:05:31]: At this time there is um a note regarding uh review of ceremonial presentations. [0:05:36, 0:05:36]: Anyone? [0:05:38, 0:05:39]: Can someone tell me what that's about? [0:05:46, 0:06:06]: Oh, just to recap. Okay, thank you. Um okay, our clerk is telling me to remind you before you arrive tonight we had um our ceremonial uh hour and uh we did uh make um some presentations on behalf of Women's Month and uh [0:06:06, 0:06:11]: Um I won't call all the names out but uh Madam Clerk, do you have those names in front of you? [0:06:19, 0:06:25]: There was also a letter of commendation along with the Women's History Month's um certificate. [0:06:35, 0:06:39]: I'll tell you what, we do not have a list, but let me um [0:06:40, 0:06:41]: See if we can get that. [0:06:43, 0:06:43]: [405.4, 425.4]: Yes. Officer. I'm gonna call her up. Um we don't have the total list tonight, but one person that we would like to recognize and we'll do that publicly in the meeting, Officer Webster, if you would just wave from the back. We are excited tonight that one of our very own who's with us. [0:07:05, 0:07:07]: With us at all of our meetings [0:07:08, 0:07:28]: Uh thank you. Um Officer Webster's a real special lady. Not only did she um save a life at a house fire, recently when there was a plane crash in Stockbridge, she was on the scene again and she did a remarkable job uh helping the people that were in the crash plane and we honor her tonight. [0:07:28, 0:07:40]: night and uh we're glad to have our chief here with her and some other folks from the police department. So we thank you very much and we appreciate you being here always to guard us and make sure that [0:07:40, 0:07:46]: uh the people that come to city council are safe. So thank you and congratulations. Let's give her a hand. [0:07:50, 0:08:10]: Okay, we have the list and I'll tell you who is honored tonight. Dee Clemens, who from District Two, Henry County Board of Commissioners, Detective Shamisa Hunter representing um the all the people, female officers of the Henry County Police Department, Mary Ann Mitchum from Hampton City. [0:08:10, 0:08:30]: City Council, Gail Notty. Gail was not here due to illness, but uh she was in the lineup to be honored. Sandra Scott, who is one of our state reps from Henry County, Ann Harpley, first female African American mayor pro tem in the city of Hampton, Sandra Vincent, the [0:08:30, 0:08:50]: first female African American Council member and mayor Pro Tem McDonough Nish Willis who is our first fire chief for the um for Henry County government and of course our new chair lady of the um Henry County government June Wood. So those were the things [0:08:50, 0:08:57]: females that were honored here and I might say that um they included your mayor, so I appreciated that. [0:09:04, 0:09:16]: At this time if anyone uh fills out a sheet uh to speak during public comments, uh we'll ask our clerk if she would to read out the names and [0:09:16, 0:09:20]: person or persons will be allowed to come to [0:09:20, 0:09:21]: the podium at this time. [0:09:22, 0:09:23]: Miss Mildred Reed. [0:09:34, 0:09:38]: If you all notice, my name is Mildred Reed, 530 Creek View Overlook. [0:09:38, 0:09:47]: I was gonna say if you notice I'm smiling. I want to take this opportunity to thank Mayor Judy Neal and the council members of the City of Stockbridge. [0:09:48, 0:10:07]: for the donation which was made to the Henry County Senior Services on behalf of the city of citizens of Stockbridge. And for the audience, we're at the Henry County Council on Aging invite you to show your support for seniors by participating in the 20 [0:10:07, 0:10:22]: Third annual Miles for Meals Walk. This event funds services and programs for senior adults in Henry County. The walk will take place May 6, 2017. That's the first Saturday in May. [0:10:22, 0:10:42]: at the Jay Hopper Event Center from ten to twelve AM. We would like to invite everyone to come out and participate and join us for a day filled with fun laughter and music. We have uh online and we'll try to make it available at W here at the city sponsorship forms and registrations to sign up. Thank you. [0:10:43, 0:10:43]: Thank you. [0:10:47, 0:10:49]: There are no further comments. [0:10:49, 0:10:51]: Okay, thank you. [0:10:52, 0:10:52]: Uh [0:10:53, 0:11:06]: This time we are going to go into old business which will include um a public hearing and our procedure for public hearing is that I'm announcing to you that we're [0:11:06, 0:11:08]: going into public hearing at this time. [0:11:08, 0:11:11]: And if I could call the applicant. [0:11:12, 0:11:17]: Uh this is a request for amendment at the city zoning code in regards to [0:11:17, 0:11:18]: Brick facade. [0:11:18, 0:11:23]: The presenter for this is going to be our attorney, Michael Williams. Um [0:11:23, 0:11:28]: city attorney and also Bill Johnson Code Consultant. [0:11:29, 0:11:34]: Good evening, uh Mayor and Council. Um this is the um [0:11:35, 0:11:38]: continuation of the public hearing that uh was [0:11:38, 0:11:44]: begun a month ago on the brick facade requirements. As you will recall the [0:11:44, 0:11:45]: Uh [0:11:45, 0:11:50]: zoning advisory board asked you all to delay your decision in order for them to uh [0:11:50, 0:11:52]: do a little more work on [0:11:53, 0:11:58]: the proposed uh brick requirement and so what you have before you is their recommendation [0:11:59, 0:12:03]: um in a few minutes um after you open and close the public hearing. [0:12:03, 0:12:11]: Um we'll be asking for a motion to approve the zoning advisory board's recommendation um as you have in in your book. [0:12:13, 0:12:15]: Are there other speakers on this matter? [0:12:18, 0:12:22]: Are there any speakers opposed to this matter? [0:12:24, 0:12:31]: If not, I will declare the public hearing closed. At this time there will be council discussion on the matter. [0:12:31, 0:12:33]: Is there council discussion? [0:12:33, 0:12:34]: Yeah no. [0:12:35, 0:12:39]: Councilman Alexander. [0:12:40, 0:12:44]: If there's no further discussion, uh I'll call for the motion. [0:12:45, 0:12:54]: Yes, I would like to make a motion to improve the um brick facade recommendation by the Stockbridge Zoning Advisory Board. [0:12:55, 0:13:03]: Okay, we have a motion by Councilman Alexander and a second by uh Pro Tem Ford. All in favor? [0:13:05, 0:13:08]: Okay, public hearing closed. Thank you. [0:13:14, 0:13:14]: Um [0:13:15, 0:13:24]: Next, under old business, uh the we will have council consideration to approve recommendation for branding and marketing. [0:13:25, 0:13:28]: And that will be presented by our city manager, Michael Harris. [0:13:29, 0:13:31]: Evening mayor, good evening council. [0:13:32, 0:13:36]: Um this was brought up in a previous work session, some meetings back. [0:13:37, 0:13:40]: This is an initiative that was started by the council last year. [0:13:40, 0:13:43]: for the purpose of um engaging with a firm [0:13:44, 0:13:48]: to go forward with our marketing, um uh the the new marketing and branded initiative for the city. [0:13:49, 0:13:54]: Um back in November of twenty sixteen the city received fourteen proposals from vendors. [0:13:55, 0:14:10]: Um we convened a evaluation team consisting of not just city staff but members from our Chamber of Commerce as well as public uh sector or private sector individuals um that are also experts within this field. [0:14:10, 0:14:15]: Um from there we reviewed all fourteen. We narrowed it down to the top six firms. [0:14:15, 0:14:22]: um conducted interviews and from there the entire evaluation team scored those interviews and at this time this evening uh staff have prepared to make a [0:14:23, 0:14:24]: recommendation. [0:14:24, 0:14:27]: uh to award this um [0:14:28, 0:14:31]: proposal to R and R design. [0:14:31, 0:14:34]: for the purpose of drafting a new [0:14:35, 0:14:39]: um branding initiative, conducting this new branding initiative for the city of Stockbridge. [0:14:40, 0:14:41]: Mayor Neil. [0:14:42, 0:14:55]: Uh yes, Councilman Gapp. I like to move that we approve and um we approve the for the recommendation for branding and marketing front of a rhyme and reason design. [0:14:55, 0:14:56]: Thank you. [0:14:56, 0:15:01]: Okay, we have a motion from Councilman Gantt and a second was that from [0:15:01, 0:15:04]: Councilman Blount. Okay. All in favor? [0:15:06, 0:15:08]: Okay, motion passes. Thank you. Thank you. [0:15:10, 0:15:16]: Next under New Business we're gonna ask for our human resources director, Renee Wheeler, to come forward. [0:15:16, 0:15:18]: She will present um [0:15:18, 0:15:23]: Consideration to approve the employee manual has been updated. [0:15:27, 0:15:30]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. [0:15:30, 0:15:33]: Um at of the last uh work session [0:15:33, 0:15:37]: I provided you with a copy of the employee manual update. [0:15:37, 0:15:38]: for your review [0:15:38, 0:15:45]: And um we're here today to tr get the em employee manual approved. Uh [0:15:46, 0:15:53]: Okay. You have hopefully read the improvements and the changes to the employee manual, which is in your book. [0:15:54, 0:15:58]: Uh do I hear a motion to accept the new manual? [0:15:58, 0:15:58]: Yes. [0:15:59, 0:16:03]: Okay, I have a motion by Councilman Alexander. Do I have a second? I have a second. [0:16:04, 0:16:07]: Second, Councilman uh Robinson. [0:16:07, 0:16:11]: All in favor? Oh whoops, discussion. Anybody have any discussion? [0:16:13, 0:16:15]: If not, all in favor? [0:16:16, 0:16:17]: All right, thank you. [0:16:18, 0:16:20]: Thank you. Thank you. [0:16:20, 0:16:27]: Okay, next we'll go to discussion and we'll take up first the um [0:16:27, 0:16:35]: uh recommendation coming from our city manager about the playground equipment for one of our parks. Yes ma'am thank you madam mayor thank you council again [0:16:36, 0:16:37]: Um typically we would [0:16:38, 0:16:57]: go through we once we receive proposals or bids, we'll take some time to go through a review process. In this case we only received one bid. Um that bid was received on Friday. Um and and while that unto itself may give some reason for pause, this is a very reputable firm. We've checked their credentials, we've checked their references, um [0:16:57, 0:17:03]: We've been working with them for quite some time. Um and so the reason why we wanted to kind of expedite this process is [0:17:03, 0:17:08]: The entirety of the project will be funded through using community development block grant funds. [0:17:08, 0:17:18]: they have a timeliness requirement that if money certain amounts of money funds have to be spent within a certain time frame. Um and so to kinda help [0:17:20, 0:17:32]: ease that process forward and make sure that we don't jeopardize any potential existing funding or future funding. We wanted to um again ask the council for um authorization to move forward with this with this award. [0:17:33, 0:17:34]: in the amount of [0:17:34, 0:17:37]: The bid amount was a hundred and seven thousand. [0:17:38, 0:17:50]: However, we say an amount not to exceed one hundred and fifty thousand because there are some other items that would maybe included. Again, one hundred and fifty would make sure that we would not exceed the allotment that's being afforded to us by C D B G. [0:17:50, 0:18:03]: Um and again the this would be award to the group Playworld. They've done a number of other projects in both in the city as well as in the county. And again we've checked references and uh they all have glowing references. So um [0:18:04, 0:18:15]: While I apologize for the the shortness in time for being able to review it, again we feel comfortable that this will be a um a very good project, one that's very well needed, and there could be certainly an asset to the community when all said and done. [0:18:16, 0:18:34]: Okay. May I ask which park now this is going in for the Clark Park. Clark Park. I wanted the audience to know which park that would be. Okay. Um you've heard the recommendation of our city manager to move forward with a hundred and fifty thousand dollars for playground equipment from Clark Park. [0:18:35, 0:18:42]: and um from some block grant funding that we have and do I hear a motion to that effect. [0:18:42, 0:18:43]: So moved. [0:18:44, 0:18:50]: All right, we have a motion by Councilman Gantt and we have a second by Pro Tem Ford. [0:18:50, 0:18:59]: Any discussion? Yes, I would. Okay. I'm in favor of this. Obviously it's a great idea, but I'm not sure if everybody understands. Is it like maybe like [0:19:00, 0:19:11]: uh something that we could kinda specific that we a little bit more specific so the audience is aware okay this particular parti uh equipment is a potential or something. Sure. [0:19:12, 0:19:32]: Last uh probably a year and a half two years ago, um the council had voted to move forward with the um initiative of uh having inclusive playground equipment, which is playground equipment that specifically um meets the needs of special needs children, those who may be um and wheelchairs uh [0:19:32, 0:19:40]: um or have uh may have other disabilities. And the biggest difference between these types of playgrounds and your conventional playgrounds is the surface. [0:19:40, 0:20:00]: Um we paired one at Memorial Park. We did one last year, opened that up. And it's a rubberized surface that's poured in place and allows for access on wheelchairs of those with other any other disabilities. And it also has specialized equipment for those um particularly within the autism field, um sensory perception. [0:20:00, 0:20:20]: reception um equipment especially um designed for them to be able to use and and be in in in interact with. So this is at along those same lines. We have the conventional playground equipment already in both Memorial and in Clark Park. This is in addition to so it supplements what's currently already there. So we again we're excited about being able to expand [0:20:20, 0:20:40]: the capacity of our park to um to make sure it is all inclusive playground. Is is this something that the city of Stockbridge is a forerunner are kind of leading the way on here in Heron County? I think so. I you know the county has done some things. Um they have Sunshine Field in in McDonough um where they play it it's a specialized field with the same type of surface. [0:20:40, 0:20:50]: this but um but I think this is one of the the the few playgrounds, actual playground areas. Certainly with us having two facilities now, I think we're probably one of the leaders from that standpoint. But [0:20:51, 0:20:52]: Yeah. [0:20:52, 0:20:53]: Okay. [0:20:53, 0:20:55]: All right. [0:20:56, 0:20:58]: A motion and a second. [0:20:59, 0:21:02]: Um the further comment from Councilman Blount? [0:21:02, 0:21:03]: Um [0:21:04, 0:21:15]: Do we have an idea uh how long would it take the equipment to get here and installation? What what time period you're looking at? Once we make the order, which will be done this week, lead time is typically somewhere around six to eight weeks. [0:21:16, 0:21:22]: Um once it's c once once it comes in, it's literally they think last time Memorial Park they installed it in a week. [0:21:22, 0:21:28]: Um they come in for the for the summer. Yeah. It should be absolutely be ready in place by the summertime. Okay. [0:21:29, 0:21:30]: Any other comments? [0:21:30, 0:21:32]: Mm-hmm. All right. All in favor? [0:21:34, 0:21:38]: Okay, thank you so much. Somebody left their glasses at the podium? [0:21:40, 0:21:41]: Mildred, are those yours? [0:21:42, 0:21:43]: Okay. [0:21:44, 0:21:45]: Renee, not yours? [0:21:45, 0:21:49]: Well, they'll be at the podium if anybody misses their glasses. [0:21:50, 0:22:10]: Okay, at this time this is a discussion item, not a item that we would vote on. This has been amended to the agenda and who is going to lead with this? Are you doing that, Councilman Alexander? Yes, Mayor Neil. Thank you for um allowing us to amend agenda to talk about a couple of things um here tonight. The first thing [0:22:10, 0:22:15]: that um we want to talk about um is um [0:22:15, 0:22:26]: the city of Eagles Landing and uh we've seen a lot of that uh in the news tonight uh in the newspaper and the impact that that would have um [0:22:27, 0:22:28]: Uh on the city. [0:22:29, 0:22:49]: uh the city has put out talking points. We have been aggressively um trying to get the information out of the tremendous financial uh burden that that would place upon the city of Stockbridge and how unprecedented that it would be for a new city to be formed from taking existing [0:22:49, 0:23:04]: incorporated territory from a proven city and moving it into another city. Uh in particular you gotta think uh to to to think about this is, you know, when you look at Walmart and that Hudson Bridge corridor. [0:23:04, 0:23:14]: They're talking about taking that out of the city of Stockbridge, which is a tremendous um sales tax revenue uh that provides for the city. [0:23:15, 0:23:35]: Uh one one of the things that we don't have in the city of Stockbridge is a s is a property tax. One of the reasons that we're able not to have a property tax is that we're located in an ideal position along um the corridor of I seventy five. We take in a tremendous [0:23:35, 0:23:50]: this amount along with Henry County of sales tax. So every time a traveler stops to uh eat here, every time a stop traveler stops to stay here, they're helping offset the fact of no property tax in the city of Stockbridge. [0:23:50, 0:23:59]: remove that commercial corridor from the city of Stockbridge, that puts us in a position where at that point we may be forced [0:23:59, 0:24:19]: forced to implement a um property tax to offset that. You know, that's why this is so unprecedented. When this building, the city hall, was first built, uh the responsibilities and the financial obligations of this city were based on having Hudson Bridge and Eagles Landing in the city. [0:24:19, 0:24:21]: Yeah. [0:24:21, 0:24:41]: those obligations uh lawfully we have to we have to pay that. And you know, that's why it has never been done to have uh incorporated businesses taken out of one city and placed into another because that will affect our potential credit rating, that will affect uh everything about [0:24:41, 0:24:45]: the city. [0:24:45, 0:24:51]: is that how this works, should the legislature decide to approve this [0:24:51, 0:24:54]: The entire city of Stockbridge will not get to vote. [0:24:55, 0:25:15]: The only people that will get to vote will be the people that will be in the new city. So those of you who are left behind, you will be left to deal with the uh financial burdens. Personally for myself and when I say those of uh you left behind, they put my neighborhood into the new city now. [0:25:15, 0:25:32]: No one has approached us, asked us if we wanted to be included. There seems to be a sm in my opinion, there appears to be a small minority uh inside the gates that have taken this project on because I've talked to many individuals inside the gate [0:25:33, 0:25:52]: who have no clue that this is going forward. But again excuse me is that you and the entire city of Stockbridge would not get to vote, but at the same time the financial obligations will fall upon you should those citizens decide to vote. [0:25:53, 0:26:13]: It is incumbent upon everybody here to contact our legislators because this has a tremendous or devastating effect uh on the city of Stockbridge potentially uh should it move forward. Uh the things that I'm hearing uh come out of this these discussions uh very much concern me because uh you know [0:26:12, 0:26:24]: when you talk about having discussions of um you know a certain level of income to be in any city, that's not to me that's not wrong that's wrong. [0:26:24, 0:26:43]: The the most the very most thing that I love about Stockbridge and the very th thing that makes Stockbridge the strongest is our diversity. It's the differences, it's the income levels, it's a whole city. And when you talk about putting together a city based on income [0:26:43, 0:26:54]: And then it was also mentioned at that first town hall meeting that um you know there was a s there was a neighborhood on Banks Road that was dropped from the new city. [0:26:56, 0:27:02]: There's no accident that the neighborhood on Banks Road. It didn't pro to me in my opinion, probably didn't [0:27:03, 0:27:23]: fit the cut in terms of the amount of income set aside. That's wrong. That's not what we oughta see. And I encourage each and every person here to reach out to your legislator and let them know that we want to keep the city of Stockbridge whole. And I think there's several other council members who want to uh speak on this subject as well in terms of having meetings uh in the [0:27:22, 0:27:23]: [1644.5, 1664.5]: Thank you, Councilman. I want to remind all of us that we have two minutes each each time we speak on an issue to begin. So who's next? All right. Pro Tem Ford. Thank you, Mayor. Uh what I wanna know also citizens, that the talking points and the the city's current position along with the maps uh [0:27:44, 0:28:03]: uh printed maps of the area to be affected on our website as well as they're in the rotunda at our uh receptionist desk on the on the first floor. Also want you know what we what we the council need to do uh is is to establish a couple of times of um say a couple of meetings with the community, different times different locations around the community [0:28:03, 0:28:13]: to have face to face with you about this so you understand opposition understand what the what what the effect is going to be if this actually becomes uh the fruition and becomes the actual city. [0:28:14, 0:28:34]: That's something that we need to do. There have already been a couple of presentations made at some other town halls dealing with the commissioners involving State Senator uh uh Emmanuel Jones and I personally made a uh presentation to the uh commissioners uh last week as well uh on this subject. Uh but uh what we need to do is reach out to you citizens. [0:28:34, 0:28:46]: in s in different parts of the city itself uh and and surrounding area to tell you exactly uh what's going on and and so you have the the the real information and factual information. [0:28:47, 0:28:49]: As well as I know we're gonna have a first quarter [0:28:49, 0:28:54]: town hall here, City Hall sometime, I believe in the month of April, so I'm pretty sure we'll address it then as well. [0:28:54, 0:28:59]: But I encourage the council that we need to pick a date, time frame and location. [0:28:59, 0:29:05]: And to get it out to the public and make sure that we we start reaching the public at different locations around the city itself. Thank you. [0:29:06, 0:29:06]: Yeah. [0:29:06, 0:29:09]: Uh Councilman John Blount. [0:29:10, 0:29:12]: I just want to uh expound on what was [0:29:13, 0:29:16]: already said. Uh one of the things that um [0:29:17, 0:29:19]: Was my platform for my campaign [0:29:20, 0:29:21]: is the citizens' matter. [0:29:22, 0:29:26]: Not some citizens, not partial citizens, but all citizens of Stockbridge Matter. [0:29:27, 0:29:29]: And when we try to take an entity of that city [0:29:30, 0:29:34]: and present division in any kind of way [0:29:35, 0:29:38]: then that says that all citizens doesn't matter. [0:29:39, 0:29:43]: We can only progress, in my opinion, by moving forward together. [0:29:44, 0:30:00]: And that doesn't look like a race and it doesn't look like financial stability in one area. It looked like it's all coming together and saying, This city's gonna be great no matter what and taking no not taking no for an answer. Um the map also encompasses my neighborhood. [0:30:01, 0:30:04]: I could say, Oh, hey, I got a new city coming and it'll be for [0:30:05, 0:30:25]: Me and my neighborhood and I'm in it no no, I was I was elected by the citizens of Stockbridge, Georgia. I moved to Stockbridge, Georgia, and I wouldn't want to see anything affect or harm the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. So I do uh come to you all and put the word out that we want Stockbridge, Georgia to be [0:30:25, 0:30:28]: be the best it can be. But it takes the citizens [0:30:28, 0:30:34]: like you that matter to show our concerns for the citizen stop to for the city to stop bridge. [0:30:35, 0:30:35]: Thank you. [0:30:36, 0:30:37]: Anyone else? [0:30:38, 0:30:41]: Manuel. Uh Councilman Gantt. Um [0:30:42, 0:31:02]: Uh I'm gonna use some very strong words for the citizens tonight and for anyone who's out here listening in regards to my opinion about this. Number one, it was a surprise. It was something that was dropped amongst any and all of us. I've spoken to legislators and sometimes some of those legislators have already [0:31:02, 0:31:22]: already stated that the first time they heard about a city of Eagles Landing was early or late December. We are now in on today is March thirteenth. The second thing is segregation. Not segregation of race, but segregation based off of financial circumstances. And it's a strong [0:31:22, 0:31:42]: Word people don't want to utilize, but it's wrong because the city is whether it's Chicago, the city of Atlanta, or New York, people embrace diversity of all cultures, walks of life. And so what it is and what I'm gonna call out and continue to call out is this segregation and it's unprecedented. [0:31:42, 0:31:43]: Segregation. [0:31:43, 0:32:03]: that has not taken place anywhere else. And if it continues and if this is allowed here in the city of Stockbridge, then you better believe it will be allowed in other states and other cities in Georgia. So we as a group, as a united uh people must fight against that. Not because [0:32:03, 0:32:10]: because of a black and white issue, red, green and brown, but because you're gonna segregate rich from poor. [0:32:11, 0:32:12]: The next [0:32:12, 0:32:13]: issue I have with this. [0:32:14, 0:32:16]: Is legislators. [0:32:16, 0:32:26]: I'm sorry and unfortunately y it's it's the public knowledge and you are more than welcome to look at who dropped the bill on this. Senator Rick Jeffries dropped the bill for this. [0:32:27, 0:32:28]: Particular item [0:32:28, 0:32:48]: And Senator Jeffries has nothing to do with the City of Eagles Landing. That is not his district, if from my understanding. So if a legislator that has a part of Eagles Landing um is concerned and is representing those people, the minority people that are part of this City of Eagles Landing um formation committee [0:32:48, 0:33:08]: Group, then let that person or those people speak out. But the political games I want people to pay attention to. And a lot of time the lay people don't recognize and haven't had the opportunity to recognize what is really going on. Sometimes, and I'm gonna call it what it is. [0:33:08, 0:33:12]: you'll get a person of your same party affiliation [0:33:13, 0:33:28]: Senator Jeffries happens to be a Republican senator who is in a district, all Republican, so more than likely he could get back in into his district. However, he's fighting for the City of Eagles Landing. [0:33:28, 0:33:48]: which really is not a part of his district. So we need to pay attention to that. Because the other senators and haunt House representatives who are part of that that Eagles Landing city, if they want to drop the bill and fight, then so be it. But we need to bring attention to some of those circumstances and things that are really going on. And I'm not [0:33:48, 0:34:08]: Saying that, and I get some of the key factors, key factors and points I've heard was well, if we take this income, then some of the stores will come. Maybe we'll have some high-end stores. But then when you read these Henry Neighbors and you read the other neighborhood apps online, the truth is the stores come with the [0:34:08, 0:34:26]: income of the total city of Stockbridge. We just need to go out there and get'em. So those excuses I'm gonna call out. Right is right, wrong is wrong. I'll probably get attacked for this, unfortunately, because that's the way politics works. But I'm gonna be honest with you and call it out. [0:34:27, 0:34:38]: And so you're not gonna like those words. You're not gonna like a surprise. Segregation. Legislators who happen to not be a part of our district, who's are who are mainly involved. [0:34:38, 0:34:58]: And we won't be silent. I stand by each and every one of my colleagues here. We have stood and we have written out a resolution and we ask that you continue to spread the word and say, although I'm an attorney and although I may have a higher income, I'm still a part of this family. Whether you're a janitor, whether you're a homeowner. [0:34:58, 0:35:10]: We need to embrace our diversity and our cultures within Stockbridge. We're not gonna separate that. So I ask that you guys can't you have exceeded your time. [0:35:10, 0:35:15]: Um Mr. Robinson. Uh mayor Neil, I like to uh allow um [0:35:16, 0:35:18]: Uh Councilwoman Robinson, two more minutes. [0:35:19, 0:35:19]: Yeah. [0:35:21, 0:35:22]: I believe that was from Ms. Gantt. [0:35:23, 0:35:29]: Yes. Okay. We have a motion to let Miss Robinson continue. I mean Miss Gantt continue. [0:35:29, 0:35:30]: I'll segment that. [0:35:31, 0:35:51]: Okay, I'm sure they're all in favor, so let's let her go again. Thank you. Um I was really ending with that and that we're gonna continue to fight with that and you should know that we need to start talking in that manner and start bringing about those cultural differences and go and reach out to those stores, but not make [0:35:51, 0:35:55]: excuses, reaching all the way over to fallen waters. [0:35:55, 0:36:07]: but taking out other subdivisions on Banks Road. Um, you know, there's a problem with that. So there's some harsh words, but I ask for your continued prayers and support and let's fight and work together. [0:36:09, 0:36:12]: Okay. Ms. Robinson. Thank you, Mayor. [0:36:13, 0:36:25]: My colleagues, if everyone can see, we're very concerned. We have reached out to this community, um, so that way we can sit down at the table and have discussion, so we can come together. Um [0:36:26, 0:36:30]: They didn't want to meet with us, but this council did reach out. [0:36:30, 0:36:50]: We're the same concerns that they have, that is what we're working on currently, and all of it would take is for us to just sit down at the table, have a conversation. But if you have a city, as Councilwoman Gantt and my other colleagues stated, you have a city that's already established and you [0:36:50, 0:36:52]: [2212.6, 2232.6]: And I just ask each and every one of you, if you've s you're you've set out and you have something on your property and then someone just wants to come and take from it, these citizens, all of us have paid these taxes, this building, it belongs to all of us. So there's a big burden that would come. [0:37:12, 0:37:19]: So we need to voice our concerns and and rally together because as you see [0:37:19, 0:37:39]: This is very near and dear to our hearts. So we're asking all the citizens to join us because we're coming to all the neighborhoods, as council uh Mayor Pro Tem stated. We're gonna have town halls, we're gonna educate because when November comes, we're gonna be ready so that way everyone knows the details of what's going on. [0:37:39, 0:37:59]: on so no one can say they did not know. So when things start taking place, please tell your neighbors, tell everyone, we need to rally together so that way we can defend this great city of Stockbridge. Thank you. Thank you. Um as your mayor I too would like [0:37:59, 0:38:19]: make a real quick brief comment. Um I believe that we are going to win this um situation. Um the reason I believe that in Georgia it is totally unprecedented for a city to be created by taking from another city and [0:38:19, 0:38:39]: And I believe we could probably keep this tied up in court for quite a while. But honestly, I went to a meeting at Eagles Landing I learned about just at the last minute on Friday. And um we have at least one person in the audience that was in that meeting. And I believe if I'm not mistaken [0:38:39, 0:38:59]: and the everybody there was from Eagles Landing and it was a one hundred percent um opinion they are opposed to doing this. So I really believe that we can win it on facts, figures. Um our city um treasurer and [0:38:59, 0:39:19]: And city manager presently or trying to pull together all the figures to uh show the public how uh the city of uh Stockbridge would be rated. It's something like going to the bank and saying, We're gonna take half your money, but you can keep the other half. So I want to encourage [0:39:19, 0:39:21]: Encourage uh all of us [0:39:22, 0:39:23]: Yeah. [0:39:23, 0:39:28]: if this thing blows up and gets on television and all that kind of stuff. [0:39:29, 0:39:37]: We will hurt ourselves if we do not present and speak only on facts. [0:39:38, 0:39:58]: The facts we have the facts on our side and I believe that we can present ourselves in such a way that we it'll be a slam dunk win for the city of Stockbridge and I encourage all of you to anything that is handed out to you by the city [0:39:58, 0:40:02]: Let those be your talking points. If you're in a meeting. [0:40:03, 0:40:23]: If people have questions, please direct them to the city manager of the City of Stockbridge. If you are not getting all the information you want, please contact the city manager's office. And daily we will be adding to our handout. And tonight, if you did not pick up the current [0:40:23, 0:40:40]: latest handout you'll find those out in the lobby as you leave and we would encourage you to use those to uh present to neighborhoods and we will be um getting in touch with all the HOAs and all the neighborhoods because literally [0:40:40, 0:40:58]: the three of us on this end would be taken out by this raid of the city of Stockbridge. So that would leave three of our people on council, your mayor and two of your council members would uh no longer be a part of the city government. [0:40:58, 0:41:18]: So I believe if we work together as a team and with the input from the people in the room tonight, we want you to know speak accurately. Do not let people make you angry and become angry because once you lose it and that gets out there. [0:41:18, 0:41:35]: Then people go, Well that must be why they wanted to get away from Stockbridge. That's not why they want to get away from us. We're better than that. We collectively are a beautiful co community and that is what we want to show to the public. Thank you. [0:41:37, 0:41:45]: Okay. Uh I believe that uh there's one other issue that uh Councilman um Alexander wanted to mention. Please do that now. [0:41:46, 0:41:49]: Yes, uh I wanted to talk about um [0:41:49, 0:42:09]: the potential Fourth of July event. We've always had sounds of summer concerts and um you know the one thing that um uh the city I love to see uh when the city uh about the city is when all of us come together collectively [0:42:09, 0:42:13]: Painting that portrait of the beautiful diverse city that we are. [0:42:14, 0:42:16]: One of the only when you look at the calendar [0:42:17, 0:42:37]: Uh for the not just the city of Stockbridge but Henry County and the whole South Metro Atlanta area. There is j really a dearth of some of events on the Fourth of July. Had to really search for something to do or fireworks uh display here uh in Stockbridge and in Henry County. [0:42:37, 0:42:53]: Henry County or to go downtown. I I believe that there are are are options here that we could offer to have our own Fourth of July event by simply moving one of the Sounds of Summer concerts which are already budgeted. [0:42:54, 0:42:55]: Till the fourth of July. [0:42:56, 0:43:16]: Uh the Fourth of July this year happens to be uh on a Tuesday. We normally have the Tasty Tuesda food truck event. We would simply have to have the Tasty Tuesday food trucks along with that concert event move to the Fourth of July uh adding fireworks uh for the city to participate. Uh [0:43:15, 0:43:31]: I truly believe that would be a monumental event that uh the attendance it would gr truly be standing room only because the community truly lacks those events. If we're gonna have an event in July, it would seem as though [0:43:31, 0:43:51]: If it if Fourth of July was available and no no one around us was having one an event we could a we we would be able to do so uh with very little cost because we already have the cost built in in terms of uh the Sounds of Summer concert and in terms of a food truck vendor that we're now uh perceiv [0:43:51, 0:43:54]: proceeding with uh moving forward with [0:43:54, 0:44:14]: I and the vision that is to come, uh this council has already approved uh design for an amphitheater uh out on the ball field that will be behind uh behind City Hall and in order to that uh hopefully at some point when we want to hold that event we'll be able to hold it at such a facility [0:44:14, 0:44:34]: right here in our downtown area as we continue to grow. The whole point behind drawing this drawing uh these events to downtown is that hopefully a business owners will come here, it will strike up a conversation and they will say, look at this look at the attendance, look at all these people downtown Stockbridge and it will potentially [0:44:34, 0:44:36]: Yeah. [0:44:37, 0:44:49]: Okay, thank you. Um uh if there are comments from other council people on these um issues that the councilman has brought up, we'll hear those now. Councilman Blount. [0:44:51, 0:44:52]: Yes. Um [0:44:54, 0:44:58]: I'm glad we're having a chance to have this discussion because I believe in [0:44:59, 0:45:13]: uh communities coming together. I believe in having facilities and events. Uh and uh like Councilman Alexander said that we have already budgeted uh the Sounds of Summer. One of the things is not clear to me [0:45:14, 0:45:20]: In my seat is the cost. What is the cost for um the pyrotechniques for us uh [0:45:21, 0:45:41]: different costs for uh fireworks. What is the cost is gonna be for us for uh paying employees to work on Fourth of July? What is gonna be the cost of bringing those bands uh for the Fourth of July? This is an event that we have budgeted for but now we're going beyond the cost that we budgeted. Uh one of the things I would like to see [0:45:41, 0:46:01]: The city do right now is to use our funds in areas that we've already talked about. And those funds and areas of go go ahead and get in the Karame Hamburg building torn down, getting the design for a multi use center, go ahead and attract and then get we have the funds to get started with trying to get a girls and boys club here. [0:46:01, 0:46:21]: us a senior citizens right here in the city of Stockbridge. Um we got plenty of time to have fun, ladies and gentlemen. So we already budgeted what we wanted to do. And I believe concerts do bring people together because as we sing with the food trucks, uh when you uh when you have uh entertainment they will come. Um whether they're outside of the city or inside of the city. [0:46:21, 0:46:41]: the city but when we talk about the citizens of Stockbridge as a whole, I believe we need to use those funds that we have already to allocate those funds in areas that we need to identify even more to be a betterment for the citizens of Stockbridge. I myself are not in approval for uh Fourth of July concert. [0:46:41, 0:46:50]: on one vote. I respect my other council members that want to have a fourth of July concert, but yet still I have no idea what this cost is gonna be for the citizens of Stockbridge. [0:46:51, 0:46:57]: Mayor B Um Yes. Um Councilwoman Robinson. Thank you, Mayor. [0:46:58, 0:47:18]: Um this is to the city manager or finance. Is there a possible way? I mean, cause this would be a great event for our downtown, knowing we getting ready to um rebrand and remarket and market our downtown. Is it a possibility um we're talking about funds? [0:47:18, 0:47:38]: that if we just do the concert and the fireworks and take off you know, for us having like the food trucks, you know, we can have something for as refreshments like we normally do for our concerts. Is it a possibility that we can take off food truck Tuesday for that Tuesday and just have a concert and the fireworks? [0:47:38, 0:47:46]: Is that something that we can look into to offset the cost and then that way we can come together and try to make it work? [0:47:46, 0:48:06]: Well I I'll tell you just on based on preliminary estimates from some of our staff, the the big cost is the pyrotechnics is going to be the fireworks. Um depending on the day if it's going to be, if the the council desire to have it on the fourth, then you're probably looking at anywhere between fifteen to twenty two thousand dollars for [0:48:06, 0:48:09]: about a fifteen to twenty minute fireworks show. [0:48:09, 0:48:25]: That's just for the fireworks and this was um these were quotes from four different four different um companies are all about the same area and they do they currently do fireworks fire fireworks displays for some of the other municipalities and some of the other areas. Um [0:48:25, 0:48:35]: If it's a c a day close to the fourth, then that number drops to about ballpark ten million ten ten thousand dollars is about the number we heard. Um [0:48:35, 0:48:46]: And just as a point of clarification, there is the Nash Farm is in in Henry County. They do offer fireworks as well here in Henry County. That's been the one. And there are some other that are close by in Atlanta Beach, but [0:48:47, 0:48:50]: to your point, the um [0:48:50, 0:49:03]: Yeah, pyrotechnics that would be anywhere from fifteen to twenty, twenty two thousand on the day of. Um the challenge also becomes if we're having a ban, and I don't know if the ban date has been set for that day or not. [0:49:03, 0:49:19]: than getting a ban for that day, that cost may be a bit higher because this is a premium date obviously. Um I I think the lesser of the cost would likely be the uh food trucks. But again we've gone through and worked at some preliminary some preliminary estimates. So we're talking about [0:49:19, 0:49:28]: When you add in overtime, staffing, generators, things of that nature. I mean you're probably on a day uh the fourth of July, you could be anywhere from twenty five to thirty thousand. [0:49:29, 0:49:30]: Ballpark estimate. [0:49:31, 0:49:50]: Uh yes. Pro Tem Ford? Yes. My initial thoughts are I'm I'm in favor of something like this, but obviously the when you look at the numbers uh the cost factor, we've got to weigh that in there since it's not a all of that's all not fully budgeted. We talk about fifteen, twenty thousand dollars in this aspect'cause it's fireworks itself, it'd be a nice event. [0:49:50, 0:49:56]: But is is it cost effective. So that's one thing uh that uh we obviously we have to look at and make a good logical decision on. [0:49:56, 0:49:57]: Um [0:49:57, 0:50:17]: Now I guess as we do this, uh we we're talking about downtown and fireworks, pyrotechnics, I guess it has to be and I know we you'll talk to companies that do this and understand this, but it can't be probably in close proximity to any type of homes more in an open field. A lot of times it's uh b uh communities that have water or lake, they do it from the lake and people so things like that have [0:50:17, 0:50:24]: to be played into the decision uh making aspect of this. But uh it'd be a great thing to have, but is it feasible? Is it affordable? [0:50:24, 0:50:43]: uh as as a as a staff does heavy lifting, I know you'll get the information back to us so we can make a real solid decision on on whether or not it makes sense. I'd like to see it, but is it really cost effective and does it make sense? So and and that is part of the research that they did, the preliminary research, they did reach out to the fire department and and even the companies themselves. It's [0:50:44, 0:51:00]: ballpark around five to seven hundred feet of clear area um away from any homes or vehicles or anything else, so identifying that area and the the logistics associated with where the people would be located, parking and things of that nature. So um [0:51:01, 0:51:05]: Yeah, there's a there's um there's um pieces that would need to be filled in and needless to say [0:51:05, 0:51:25]: um in March to do something in July on an event like that, there's even an availability issue at this point. So I know you the staff's gonna do some good work for us and be so we can make a good decision one way or the other. Thanks. Maybe any other comments? Uh Councilman Robinson I could just have one last I know the um city of Jonesboro they have [0:51:25, 0:51:33]: fireworks. It was same area like what we have. They have buildings, they have homes. [0:51:33, 0:51:43]: and they were able to do it. So I know i it d it the determining factor would be what we're trying to do. Um it so I guess [0:51:46, 0:51:50]: I w I would like to see if we can reach out and get some different s you know [0:51:51, 0:52:11]: numbers or something because I know there's there's there's trees, all of that. Right. It right there in the city of Jonesboro. And they're set up just like us. Yeah, I c I can tell you, Atlanta Pyrotechnics is the one that does Jonesboro. Okay. And we spoke with them. Okay. Um and they were their quote was between twelve five and fifteen thousand. Okay. [0:52:11, 0:52:12]: Um [0:52:12, 0:52:16]: said they're about booked for the fourth, but they need [0:52:17, 0:52:21]: open area six to seven hundred feet away from vehicles and people to launch fireworks, so [0:52:22, 0:52:24]: They were right in line with all the other [0:52:25, 0:52:33]: four or five other firms said as well. So I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm saying these are the parameters that we're trying to work within and finding the location that would be appropriate. [0:52:33, 0:52:35]: Would be um the challenges associated with that. [0:52:36, 0:52:39]: Any other comments from council members? [0:52:40, 0:53:00]: Is it appropriate to do a request for qualifications possibly to kind of get some actual concrete numbers rather than just taking what is out there so we can actually understand um what uh is available and then what the actual charges are going to be um uh for [0:52:59, 0:53:01]: For the project. [0:53:01, 0:53:06]: Y yeah, we can. I mean I think the challenge now is typically these are these things booked [0:53:07, 0:53:23]: nine, twelve months in advance, I believe, and talking to some of the staff members. So just don't know what kind of uh bids we're gonna get at this this late of a date. I think that's the challenge associated with it. And obviously doing something last minute, you're gonna be paying a premium price as well. [0:53:24, 0:53:32]: I think that's I think I think you know, we can certainly do that. That's the the wish of the of the council. But just be prepared. I mean it may be some sticker shock if if the numbers that come in. [0:53:33, 0:53:37]: Okay. Um Okay, we'll have one more question. Councilman Blount. [0:53:38, 0:53:40]: What was budgeted for the three [0:53:40, 0:53:42]: sounds of somers initially. [0:53:45, 0:53:45]: Well we [0:53:46, 0:53:48]: Okay. What was budgeted for the two then? [0:53:48, 0:53:53]: The question is what was budgeted for the two sounds of music events? [0:53:55, 0:54:00]: Yeah, did you say in thirty? I'm not exactly sure. Was it forty? I think we [0:54:01, 0:54:01]: Um [0:54:02, 0:54:15]: If we if we cut it back to two it was probably thirty round thirty. Yeah. I think at one point it was what you're looking at is about fifteen thousand dollars each for allotted for each concert if it's two. So now you're talking about [0:54:16, 0:54:21]: more than doubling that for pyrotechnique staff and and and uh quality concerts. [0:54:22, 0:54:23]: Is that what we're talking about? [0:54:24, 0:54:32]: think when we go back and look at the the actual cost from the concerts, yeah, I think somewhere between that twelve to fifteen ballpark range per concert. [0:54:33, 0:54:45]: What was already allotted for Correct, that's yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I think that's what about the ballpark number was for those concerts. So yeah, I think we're talking about twenty five to thirty thousand based on the early estimates that we've received. [0:54:46, 0:54:55]: But then that goes back to what I'm when I talk about being good stewards of the citizens' money, mm that we can't I don't believe that we should double [0:54:56, 0:54:57]: what we've already allotted in our budget. [0:54:58, 0:55:07]: for a concert just to have it on the fourth of July. I would like to see a zoo here. Does that mean that with the city the citizens of Stockbridge fund the zoo? [0:55:08, 0:55:11]: W there are things that we can go out and do, I believe. [0:55:12, 0:55:16]: that we now have to focus this city has identified [0:55:16, 0:55:26]: many areas that we can focus on and I think that we need to move on those areas with the city funds because we need to put viable things in our community for the citizens. [0:55:26, 0:55:31]: more than a one moment situation that's going to double the uh uh what we've already allotted for it. [0:55:32, 0:55:35]: Okay. If there are no other uh [0:55:36, 0:55:47]: points of discussion here. We will leave this back with the city council, I mean with the city manager for um a possible agenda item for the next meeting. [0:55:50, 0:55:55]: At this time uh we will call on our city manager if he has any comments he'd like to [0:55:56, 0:56:16]: No no comments. Just to kind of reiterate what was stated earlier in regards to questions that may come up um concerning either the city's annexation request, and I think that is a key point to also bring up that the city also has a complementary uh legislation that's going through the legislature right now requesting a annexation request to clean up our borders. [0:56:16, 0:56:32]: and provide better service delivery as well. Um so that's also making its way through the um through the legislative cycle. Um so if anyone has questions about that or the proposal as we know to provide any facts we have related to the city's numbers and the impact on the city. Again we are pro [0:56:33, 0:56:43]: in the process of putting those numbers together now, but um if anyone would like to me to come out and meet or speak to HOA or any on along those lines, certainly welcome the opportunity. [0:56:44, 0:56:44]: Okay. [0:56:45, 0:56:46]: Um [0:56:46, 0:56:55]: At this time uh if we have any closing comments from city council members that you haven't already made this evening, [0:56:55, 0:56:57]: Okay, start with Councilman Blount. [0:56:58, 0:56:59]: I mean, sorry, Alexander. [0:57:00, 0:57:20]: Yes, uh thank you, Mayor Neal. I wanted to first of all salute uh the trailblazing women that we honor tonight and let every woman in this community know that uh she is valued and that she is loved and we want to honor you not just today but uh every day of our service. Uh [0:57:20, 0:57:40]: we want to do that. I wanna fur I wanna next say that um you know that we got some preliminary numbers uh from the city and it was good from the treasurer. I requested the information and it looks like we're gonna add about two point five million dollars to the city reserve funds which will take us [0:57:40, 0:58:00]: We already had eight point seven uh should go up about another two and a half million and take us over ten million dollars um plus in reserve funds. So the numbers and the reserves are very good. We have you know over ten million dollars in splash funds available for the city. You see that we have endeavored [0:58:00, 0:58:20]: Councilwoman Robinson led the charge this weekend for us to clean up the litter uh on our streets. We've uh partnered with the Doctor Road program. We had pickup um on Walt Stevens Road by Global Impact Church. Uh we I led a group myself on Jodico Road, and if you haven't [0:58:20, 0:58:31]: haven't been down to Johto Co Road in a while, please do so. Take a look at it. It looks absolutely fabulous. Chairwoman June Wood joined us to pick up and we see it every day. [0:58:32, 0:58:52]: when we drive down the street and somebody throws a cup out of their car or plate. It's unacceptable. And we want our community to look better and that's one of the things that I ran on is that we're gonna clean up the streets all over Stockbridge and Councilwoman Robinson is leading the charge in order to do that, in order to clean up the city, to get to make the city [0:58:52, 0:59:08]: city look like it should so you can be proud of the city uh of Stockbridge that you call home. That's something that we always want to do uh to push the envelope on that to make sure that we're making you proud uh of your service and thank you so much. [0:59:09, 0:59:10]: Councilman Blount. [0:59:11, 0:59:14]: Yes, I want to thank this whole council for um [0:59:15, 0:59:35]: for putting money the money in the budget for beautification. Uh I thank Councilwoman for her passion for uh moving forward with in the areas of uh beautification. I I would uh ask that every church would follow our lead. I'm a member at Global Impact Christian Manager, one of the social ministers there, and we were. We was out on Walt Stevens Road and we but one of the [0:59:35, 0:59:50]: the first churches to adopt the highway. So beautification is an is an awesome uh task for any council to do but and I thank God that uh we're uh making that work here in the city of uh Stockbridge. Uh one of the things I also want to say is that uh [0:59:50, 0:59:51]: Um [0:59:51, 0:59:55]: The National Day of Prayer's coming up and it's uh it was it's the first uh [0:59:56, 0:59:59]: It's the first Thursday in uh May. [0:59:59, 1:00:19]: And uh we'll be getting information out pertaining to the National Day of Prayer. I believe prayers uh needed in every aspect of life. Uh personal life, business, anywhere, any marriages, singleness, uh, if you will. And uh National Day of Prayer here at City of Stopbury is gonna be uh and around this country, uh it's gonna be on the in the first [1:00:19, 1:00:23]: first Thursday of uh May and we'll be getting out more information on that. [1:00:25, 1:00:40]: Uh Council uh Pro Tem Ford. Thank you, Mayor, appreciate it. Uh thank you citizens for coming out tonight. Congrat congratulations once again to all the ladies that were honored as being travel leaders in a sense in their in their particular prospective career fields and and uh and all ladies that [1:00:41, 1:01:01]: period in reference to Women's History Month. So it's great to to honor you ladies. Um also this month is uh Prevent Child Abuse Month, so some of us are actually wearing blue tonight in reference to that. And it's also not to steal the the mayor's thunder, I guess you may say, but uh is also l located on the on your activities for this month. Well we have paint [1:01:00, 1:01:15]: Henry Blue and we'll have a kickoff campaign uh right here at Merrill Manors uh conference center on the thirtieth of March. Outside of that, uh continue to be engaged, continue to keep the faith as we uh uh move the city forward. And you all have a great month. Thank you. [1:01:16, 1:01:17]: Councilman Gaint. [1:01:18, 1:01:21]: Um on the committee um [1:01:22, 1:01:41]: Council member committee meetings and initiatives. Um I just wanted to make a correction for senior fund night. It will be lo held on the twenty second, not the twenty-third, and that's senior citizens fund day from two to five PM at Ted Strickland Community Center. Um and we would ask for anyone to come out and support. Thank you. [1:01:43, 1:01:44]: Councillor Robinson. [1:01:45, 1:02:05]: Yes, thank you, Mayor. I want to again congratulate all the women who were honored here tonight and thanks the citizens for coming out. We got to meet a lot of new people on tonight. Also um for the beautification efforts, again want to thank um uh Global Impact Ministries for being the recipient of the the first recipient of the [1:02:05, 1:02:25]: beautification adopt the role program that we kicked off here is totally different than what the council approved for as funding. This is something that we're just out there getting the community involved. So the community once they come out they're initiating within their own churches so that way they can adjust [1:02:25, 1:02:45]: adopt a role which is a mall. So that is um totally separate um what the council approved. So we just want to let all other churches requesting for you to get involved, get involved with your community, because we have so much that we need to do together. And together if we do it we can be successful. Also with the Council of [1:02:45, 1:03:05]: Aging. Um we do have our first beautification on the same day. Um but I just want to let Miss Mildred and Mr Anderson know that I will try to work on the calendar to see if I can adjust that because I do want to participate with you all as well. So um we would definitely look at trying to see if we can adjust that. But again, um congratulations to [1:03:05, 1:03:25]: mayor being the first female um mayor here in the city of Stockbridge and to my colleagues. Um it it together we can make this um happen for this city. We were placed here to serve, to do whatever we need to do and I just hope in that we can strongly in a positive way work together so that way we can do it and move [1:03:25, 1:03:45]: forward. Thank you. Thank you. I have just a couple of quick things I want to share. If you picked up your agenda coming in the door tonight, there are official city meeting dates noted there and also council member community meeting dates. I want to remind you that when you hear the word [1:03:45, 1:04:05]: Town hall, those will all be held at the city hall. Those will be official city meetings. If you hear the word community meetings, that will be that one of the five council people is having a meeting somewhere in the in the community. But those do not confuse themselves. [1:04:05, 1:04:25]: Those with the official meetings of the city, which will be called town hall meetings this year. Also, I would really like to tell you real quick that we had a wonderful thing happen this week. We had a ribbon cutting for our beautiful new Marriott, Fairfield Inn, here in Stockbridge. It's exquisitely beautiful. If you have out-of-town [1:04:25, 1:04:45]: company and you want to put them somewhere if you don't have enough room at your home, I would highly recommend that. Um some of us like to keep some family and we like to send some over to the hotel, you know. So uh that's a beautiful one and um we had a blessing that came out of that and I want to share it with [1:04:45, 1:05:05]: you tonight. Um we got a call uh just before end of day, the day before uh that ribbon cutting and the new owner of the hotel wanted to make a contribution to um they asked for the mayor's favorite charity. Well now that was a hard one because there are a lot of wonderful charities. [1:05:05, 1:05:06]: [3907.2, 3927.2]: But I remembered that we have seven hundred Stockbridge students in a program called the Leader in Me program at Cotton Indian Elementary School. So some quick thinking. We got um uh that information back to uh the owner of the hotel. He presented [1:05:27, 1:05:40]: a check for one thousand dollars to help the Stockbridge students with a little whisper under his breath, there might be more money later. So I wanted you to know that. [1:05:42, 1:06:02]: And we also um are leaning on him to move his headquarters from Warner Robbins, Georgia to Stockbridge. So let's pray for that to happen because we would love to have a hotel year that owns seven hotels in Middle Georgia, one in Stockbridge and [1:06:02, 1:06:10]: four being built in Atlanta to headquarter here in Stockbridge. But another thing I want to share with you real quick [1:06:10, 1:06:30]: His finance guy was in town from India. He had just gotten off a flight the night before from India. Uh speaks fluent English, very capable, obviously, person um in the lending field, and he was so impressed with the Leader in Me program that he is in [1:06:30, 1:06:37]: in contact with Steve Cash who is the on the ground person for the Quality Growth Council [1:06:37, 1:06:57]: in this program. And he is building three schools in India. He wants this program in those three schools. So Stockbridge did something great last week. We're very proud of all of those who had anything to do with bringing the hotel to Stockbridge. But tonight we just want to give a praise [1:06:57, 1:07:02]: and thanks to the new owner of Fairfield Inn. So thank you. [1:07:08, 1:07:10]: At this time. [1:07:11, 1:07:25]: Um we've talked about uh painting Henry blue. So at this time uh I'll ask our executive counsel if we need an executive session. Uh yes, ma'am, a very brief one for litigation, real estate and personnel. [1:07:26, 1:07:28]: All right. You heard that. Um [1:07:29, 1:07:36]: At this time to go to ex executive session I need a motion to move to executive session. [1:07:36, 1:07:50]: Manil, I move that we go into executive session on b for the purpose of litigating real estate and personnel matters. Do I hear a second? Uh okay, that's Councilwoman Gantt, uh Pro Tem Ford. Any discussion? [1:07:51, 1:07:53]: If not, all in favor. [1:07:54, 1:08:03]: Okay, we're going to executive session. I can't tell you how long we'll be gone, but uh if you want to stick around we'll come back out and report to you when we come out. Thank you. [1:08:40, 1:08:57]: [4145.0, 4157.7]: [1:09:18, 1:09:20]: Uh [1:09:40, 1:09:45]: [4195.0, 4210.0]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, we're still going to be able to do that. [1:10:15, 1:10:25]: [4225.4, 4231.1]: Yeah, [1:10:45, 1:10:55]: [4256.5, 4260.8]: [1:11:01, 1:11:15]: No, that's not like that. Um [1:11:16, 1:11:35]: Well I think. [1:11:40, 1:11:50]: No, I don't like it. [1:11:55, 1:11:56]: [4340.0, 4357.0]: Yeah, but you think about that. [1:12:44, 1:12:48]: Um watch index is a whole uh website. [1:12:52, 1:13:07]: [4390.3, 4395.1]: [1:13:18, 1:13:19]: Yeah, we're gonna [1:13:27, 1:13:30]: Okay. [1:13:40, 1:14:00]: [4440.0, 4460.0]: All right. And then I thought you were sure. [1:14:19, 1:14:24]: No. [1:14:35, 1:14:55]: So that one. [1:14:55, 1:15:00]: Yeah, I'm not really [1:15:10, 1:15:11]: [4521.3, 4528.0]: [1:15:28, 1:15:30]: [4535.0, 4545.0]: [1:15:50, 1:15:51]: [4551.8, 4555.0]: And she's probably [1:16:30, 1:16:40]: [4615.0, 4625.0]: [1:17:09, 1:17:29]: I'll stop there, yeah. So I'm all saying it's a lot of things. [1:17:29, 1:17:33]: Well it's like [1:17:33, 1:17:53]: [4673.7, 4685.0]: [1:18:05, 1:18:07]: [4696.1, 4702.9]: [1:18:23, 1:18:25]: But I mean. [1:18:41, 1:18:45]: Yeah, I'm still [1:18:48, 1:18:50]: Oh she thinks I'm [1:18:51, 1:18:54]: This isn't what you though. [1:18:54, 1:19:10]: [4755.0, 4775.0]: Yeah, that well and yeah, but then I thought we're fine. Yeah, or why is it uh moving right there? [1:19:34, 1:19:52]: [4792.4, 4805.1]: I guess the word. [1:20:14, 1:20:34]: Aren't you trying to do all the stuff that's one of the screens last week not on the number of that? Well [1:20:34, 1:20:40]: [4846.7, 4852.4]: Well sure that's how we got it. [1:20:55, 1:21:15]: [4875.0, 4893.0]: And we're talking about in the middle of the right. [1:21:35, 1:21:50]: Um what do you mean that's what you mean? Oh yeah. [1:21:55, 1:22:15]: Okay. Well okay. I'll just do all that. [1:22:15, 1:22:17]: Yeah, I think. [1:24:40, 1:24:43]: [5433.2, 5435.2]: And that's [1:30:38, 1:30:40]: Uh [1:30:45, 1:30:55]: [5455.0, 5472.3]: I would I wouldn't need to take it. I have I had I couldn't have it. Okay, well [2:43:45, 2:43:45]: Yeah. [2:43:46, 2:43:51]: We could save money just get this air conditioning under control out here. [2:44:04, 2:44:06]: Hey. [2:44:07, 2:44:27]: It did get hot in there. Okay. We need a motion to end our executive session. Motion to end executive sessions? Second. [2:44:27, 2:44:30]: discussion on ending executive session. [2:44:31, 2:44:33]: No discussion. All in favor? [2:44:35, 2:44:42]: Now then we need a motion to end our formal council meeting tonight. Reconvene. I mean reconvene, sorry. [2:44:43, 2:44:55]: Mayor, I move that we reconvene our regular scheduled meeting. Do I hear a second? Second. All right, we have a motion by Gantt, second by Ford, and any discussion to reconvene. [2:44:56, 2:44:58]: No discussion. All in favor? [2:44:59, 2:45:02]: Now I need a motion to end the meeting. [2:45:05, 2:45:11]: A second. All right. We have a motion to end by Robinson and a second by Gantt, the meeting. [2:45:11, 2:45:12]: Any discussion? [2:45:14, 2:45:15]: All in favour? [2:45:15, 2:45:17]: Okay, the meeting's over.

--- title: February 28 2017 Work Session Meeting date: 2017-02-28 source: 2017-02-28_February_28_2017_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:14, 0:00:15]: Yeah. [0:00:24, 0:00:44]: [ 44.9, 50.0]: [0:01:00, 0:01:10]: No, it's an opportunity. [0:01:20, 0:01:30]: You know that one is yeah, that's the way that's always a good thing. [0:01:33, 0:01:35]: No crafty. [0:01:58, 0:02:13]: six o'clock, we're gonna start our meeting. We uh tonight I'd like to call the meeting to order and I would like to ask Michael Brock from Red Oak United Methodist Church. If Michael will come up, he's gonna give us our invitation for the evening. [0:02:19, 0:02:21]: Let us power ahead. [0:02:22, 0:02:42]: Father God, we just thank you right now for this time and this meeting. We thank you, Lord, that you've created us and we're here at this time, and we're to do your bidding and to s you are to speak for us. So, Lord, God, this meeting that your will will be done. Lord, help us to be encouraged and strengthened and reminded and remember that we are servants of yours and we're servants. [0:02:42, 0:02:59]: Service to the whole wide world, especially Henry County. We thank you for this time. We thank you for the decisions that would be made. [0:02:59, 0:02:59]: Thank you. [0:03:00, 0:03:05]: At this time if you'll s remain standing, we're going to pledge the American flag. [0:03:07, 0:03:20]: Please do allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands on my nation, under God indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:03:23, 0:03:24]: Thank you. [0:03:27, 0:03:31]: At this time we're going to have our roll call by our clerk, Vanessa Holliday. [0:03:32, 0:03:50]: Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilman Blount. Present. Mayor Neal. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilwoman Robinson. Present. Mayor Neal, you have a quorum. Thank you. At this time I'm going to ask for a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:03:51, 0:03:57]: Uh Mayor Neal, I'd like to uh make a motion to amend the agenda to include a resolution [0:03:59, 0:04:05]: Well s uh and make it uh item number one in reference to uh the city's position on uh city of Eagles Landing. [0:04:06, 0:04:07]: Thank you. [0:04:08, 0:04:15]: Okay, we have a motion by Councilman Alexander, a second by Councilman John Blount. All in favor? [0:04:17, 0:04:18]: Thank you. [0:04:19, 0:04:39]: At this time just quickly we're going to um I'm calling attention to the minutes that are in the books of the council and these are just asking them for um the opportunity for them to review those minutes. They'll be voted on later in March uh March thirteenth at our next meeting. [0:04:39, 0:04:59]: At this time I want to comment briefly about the signup sheets that you found outside. If you want to speak for or against the city, the new city of Eagles Landing, you will find those signup sheets outside. [0:04:59, 0:05:05]: And I need to ask you to tip out and get one real quick if you want to sign up. [0:05:06, 0:05:25]: And then also if you want to sign up to speak in the general portion of the meeting this evening, there is another sheet out front. And we have a staff person out there who can help you with that. So if anyone didn't get to sign up, please go do that real quick and come back in. And at this time um [0:05:25, 0:05:40]: The council Councilman Alexander has uh presented the motion about the resolution in opposition to the proposed city of Eagles Landing providing for a severe ability repealing [0:05:40, 0:05:56]: in consistent resolutions, providing an effective date and for other purposes. So I'm going to read that to you um so that it will be in our minutes and if anyone wants a copy of this, I'm sure we can make that happen for you. [0:05:57, 0:06:02]: Whereas the city of Stockbridge is a municipal corporation [0:06:02, 0:06:22]: Located within Henry County, Georgia, duly organized and existing under the laws of the state of Georgia, and is charged with providing public services to residents located within the corporate limits of the city, whereas the area of the stock of Stockbridge was settled in eighteen twenty nine, whereas the city [0:06:22, 0:06:42]: The city was formally incorporated in eighteen ninety-five and officially became a municipal corporation of the state of Georgia in nineteen twenty, whereas it has been proposed by certain residents of Henry County that a new city be created to be known as the City of the Eagles Landing. [0:06:42, 0:06:54]: Whereas the city limits of the proposed city includes land that currently is within the existing corporate city limits of the city of Stockbridge, whereas the proposal [0:06:54, 0:07:14]: to remove substantial portions of an existing city to place into the geographic area of an as yet unknown, unproven city is unprecedented in the history of the state of Georgia, whereas the removal of these areas from the city of Stockbridge would have a devastating financial [0:07:14, 0:07:34]: financial and social impact upon the city of Stockbridge, whereas no consideration been given to the aforementioned devastating financial and social impact such a proposal would have upon the city of Stockbridge, whereas the proposed removal of certain areas of the city of Stockbridge. [0:07:34, 0:07:54]: Stockbridge to create a new city raises significant constitutional and legal questions that have not been addressed. Whereas numerous residents of the Stockbridge area, including both residents of the city of Stockbridge as well as residents of unincorporated [0:07:54, 0:08:11]: Henry County are voicing opposition to the proposal, whereas these residents have not been given any of the information about the proposal and have not been given an opportunity to pose questions about the proposed city. [0:08:12, 0:08:32]: And whereas there is significant question as to the true motive of the proponents of a new city, especially given the likelihood of such a city to impose a substantial property tax, which the city of Stockbridge does not have, in addition to the existing county property taxes. Now therefore [0:08:32, 0:08:52]: Four, the Council of the City of Stockbridge hereby resolves as follows Section one Opposition to the City of Eagles Landing. The City Council of the City of Stockbridge hereby opposes the proposed city of Eagles Landing and urges the Governor, the General Assembly, and specifically the members of the Stockland. [0:08:52, 0:08:54]: Stockbridge legislative delegation. [0:08:55, 0:08:58]: to actively oppose the passage of any legislation [0:08:59, 0:09:17]: which would establish the city of Eagle's Landing as currently proposed. Approval of Execution. The Mayor or Mayor Proteum is hereby authorized to sign all documents and to perform all other acts necessary to effectuate this resolution. [0:09:17, 0:09:34]: on behalf of the city of Stockbridge. The city clerk is authorized to execute, attest to and seal any document which may be necessary to effectuate this resolution subject to approval as to form by the city attorney. [0:09:35, 0:09:55]: Section three, severe ability. To the extent any portion of this resolution is declared to be invalid, unenforceable, or non binding, that shall not affect the remaining portions of this resolution. Section four repeal of conflicting provisions. [0:09:55, 0:10:01]: provisions. All city resolutions inconsistent with the resolution are hereby repealed. [0:10:01, 0:10:17]: Effective date number five. This resolution shall be effective on the date of its approval by the city council and mayor as provided in the city charter. So resolved this twenty eighth day of february twenty seventeen. [0:10:17, 0:10:24]: So that is the resolution that will allow us to formally protest [0:10:24, 0:10:30]: the um rating of our city to create a new city of Eagles Landing. [0:10:32, 0:10:35]: At this time we're going to move forward and we [0:10:36, 0:10:43]: Oh, we need a motion in a second. We're gonna vote on this. We sure do. Okay, at this time we're gonna have a motion. [0:10:45, 0:10:58]: Ms uh Ms. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that the resolution in opposition to the proposed city of Eagles Landing providing severe ad severe ability and appealing to the inconsistent resolution and providing the effective date for other purposes. [0:10:58, 0:11:01]: Uh be accepted this evening. [0:11:01, 0:11:09]: We have a motion by Pro Tem uh Anthony Ford and a second by Councilman Elton Alexander. All in favor? [0:11:11, 0:11:12]: All opposed. [0:11:13, 0:11:17]: Okay, we're good. We have our document that we need to work with. [0:11:23, 0:11:39]: Okay, at this time um we're going to take um just a few minutes for those who wanted to speak, but first we're going to ask our attorney, Mike Williams, if he would come up to the podium and give you a little update about the city's position. [0:11:44, 0:11:53]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um you have on the screen um for the benefit of of everyone in attendance um a copy of the map [0:11:53, 0:12:01]: of the proposed uh city of Eagles Landing. Uh we learned um today that yesterday Senator Jeffries introduced [0:12:01, 0:12:07]: two pieces of legislation, one which would de annex certain territory from the city of Stockbridge, [0:12:07, 0:12:12]: and the other one which would provide for the creation of the city of Eagles Landing [0:12:12, 0:12:19]: Um the creation of City of Eagles Landing would be the big purple or red splots that you see on the screen. [0:12:19, 0:12:24]: Um and within that you see uh inside the darkened red lines [0:12:24, 0:12:29]: Um the uh a portion of the southernmost uh parts of the city of Stockbridge [0:12:29, 0:12:37]: Um those portions within that red line are currently what are part of Stockbridge, which the Senator has proposed [0:12:37, 0:12:40]: to be removed in order to create the new city. [0:12:41, 0:12:41]: Um [0:12:42, 0:12:43]: The [0:12:43, 0:12:44]: This is [0:12:45, 0:12:48]: you know, unprecedented in the state of Georgia that you would have [0:12:48, 0:12:51]: such a significant portion of one city [0:12:51, 0:12:53]: uh removed from that city [0:12:54, 0:12:55]: To create a new city. [0:12:56, 0:12:56]: Um [0:12:57, 0:12:57]: With [0:12:58, 0:13:07]: you know, without any sub significant uh request from you know, large numbers of voters or certainly no input from the city of Stockbridge, no consideration. [0:13:08, 0:13:10]: for the impact this would have on the city of Stockbridge. [0:13:11, 0:13:15]: Um much of that um as folks can see um is [0:13:15, 0:13:20]: the key business uh corridor of the city of Stockbridge along Eagles Landing Parkway. [0:13:20, 0:13:23]: Um so substantial uh portions of [0:13:23, 0:13:27]: the city's uh business um tax base would [0:13:27, 0:13:29]: uh be removed. Um [0:13:30, 0:13:35]: overnight um by this legislation again with no consideration for the impact this would have [0:13:35, 0:13:38]: on the city of of Stockbridge. [0:13:38, 0:13:39]: Um [0:13:40, 0:14:00]: There was a meeting last weekend or on Saturday that uh virtually the entire council w was present at where our position was made known that the city opposes uh this um any act of the legislature which would remove these portions from the city of Stockbridge. Um and of course you all just [0:14:00, 0:14:20]: uh adopted a resolution to that effect. So we're certainly as a city united in opposition to this. Um that message will be uh delivered to all the uh the Henry County delegations, specifically those representing the city of Stockbridge and and um to that end, you know, Senator Jones [0:14:20, 0:14:26]: and uh a number of the the House representatives have also expressed their opposition [0:14:26, 0:14:31]: um to this on behalf of the city of Stockbridge. So we look forward to doing everything we can [0:14:31, 0:14:33]: than our power to fight this and to [0:14:34, 0:14:36]: um address all the uh [0:14:36, 0:14:38]: the concerns that the city has with this. [0:14:40, 0:14:57]: Okay, at this time, thank you, Mike. We appreciate that. Um if we could at this time we're gonna turn to the clerk and um ask her if she would read the names of the people who have signed up to come up and make a comment. You have three minutes to make your comment when you come up, please. [0:14:58, 0:15:00]: Pastor Cecilia Green. [0:15:04, 0:15:11]: W when you come to the podium would you please uh give your address and indicate whether you live in [0:15:11, 0:15:21]: Or outside the city limits of Stockbridge. Outside of the city. Pass the facility agreement, post office box eighteen twenty one, Stockbridge, Georgia, three oh two eight one. [0:15:21, 0:15:24]: My comment is imperative. [0:15:25, 0:15:28]: I came to Stockbridge in the year of two thousand seven. [0:15:29, 0:15:35]: One of the reasons that I left Rockdale County, Connus, Georgia, was because of the area. [0:15:35, 0:15:43]: To me it was the right place to be. Anything that you could ever want in a city, you could find right here in Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:15:43, 0:15:45]: There were many churches here. [0:15:46, 0:15:56]: um that I'm a part of. The people was the most friendliest people I've ever seen, the most caring, giving, loving and sharing. [0:15:57, 0:16:00]: All of these policies are great for a city. [0:16:01, 0:16:03]: The old school would say if it's not broke [0:16:04, 0:16:06]: Why are you trying to fix it? [0:16:07, 0:16:11]: This area has everything that it takes to excel and succeed. [0:16:12, 0:16:18]: There are different people here, diversities of people, and we all are one community. [0:16:18, 0:16:21]: We need to stay one community. [0:16:22, 0:16:24]: United, we stand. [0:16:25, 0:16:26]: Did everybody hear me? [0:16:27, 0:16:29]: United, we stand. [0:16:29, 0:16:31]: The value we saw. [0:16:32, 0:16:37]: God bless you and God bless the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. Amen. [0:16:38, 0:16:53]: Let me remind everyone, we do not clap, cheer, stand up, wave our arms. We're here to listen to the people who are speaking. So please give them your attention and refrain from any outburst. [0:16:55, 0:16:57]: Okay, let's go with the next speaker. [0:16:57, 0:16:58]: Cynthia Johnson. [0:17:07, 0:17:08]: Yeah, yeah. [0:17:10, 0:17:19]: Good evening. My name is Cynthia Johnson. I reside at Fifty Briar Cliff Place, Stockbridge, Georgia, but I live in unincorporated Stockbridge. [0:17:20, 0:17:25]: Um, I became aware of uh this proposal on uh Saturday. [0:17:26, 0:17:26]: Um [0:17:27, 0:17:31]: And because uh I reside in unincorporated Stockbridge [0:17:31, 0:17:48]: it's really uh weighing on me because from what I understand and I'm not sure if I have a clear understanding of it is that if this goes through that our home prices for us that live in uh the unincorporated part would just plummet. [0:17:49, 0:18:09]: And um being here eighteen years I I just don't even understand the concept of somebody coming in stating, Oh, we want a new city just like that. It's like it this happened overnight and undercover. And to me when things like that happen, uh it [0:18:08, 0:18:13]: It it's not a good thing. So I just wanted to state that. Thank you so much. [0:18:16, 0:18:17]: Our next speaker. [0:18:20, 0:18:21]: Mildred Reed. [0:18:34, 0:18:50]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name is Mildred Reed. I live at 530 Creek View Overlook in the city of Stock Ridge. I am opposed to this separation. Someone just made a comment that it seems that this happened overnight. [0:18:51, 0:18:53]: I don't this is my opinion. [0:18:53, 0:18:55]: There's a lot that's been going on [0:18:56, 0:19:10]: over the past few years. We can't account for where our money's been going, but we are aware that some of it has been going up towards Eagles Landing, getting I feel, getting prepared for this where we are today. [0:19:11, 0:19:19]: We have not been able to account for everything, but that's okay. And I'm not talking in codes or anything, I'm just making a personal statement. [0:19:20, 0:19:32]: Okay, so I want the audience to know that I am personally opposed to this. I love Stockbridge and I do all I can to support it and make it a positive place to live. Thank you. [0:19:41, 0:19:43]: Doctor Marilyn Flynn. [0:19:54, 0:19:56]: Who we just give her the microphone? [0:20:05, 0:20:09]: Do y'all do y'all wanna give her a microphone? I think she [0:20:10, 0:20:25]: I can stand up here. Okay. Thank you. I believe so. If you can hear me. My name is Marilyn Flynn and I live at five twenty one Country Club Drive in Stockford. So I've lived there for twenty six years. [0:20:25, 0:20:26]: Mayor Neal. [0:20:26, 0:20:28]: And council [0:20:29, 0:20:31]: Uh Stockbridge Council members. [0:20:31, 0:20:38]: I thank you for taking this effort to inform the public and to invite us to discuss our concerns about the establishment. [0:20:39, 0:20:42]: of a new city of Eagles Landing. I have many objections. [0:20:42, 0:20:44]: But I will limit myself to three issues. [0:20:45, 0:20:46]: If I can do this in three minutes. [0:20:47, 0:20:53]: Uh these three issues. Can we prioritize having high end restaurants and businesses? [0:20:53, 0:20:56]: Over caring for basic needs of our children. [0:20:57, 0:21:01]: Second, why can't Stockbridge provide parks and recreation? [0:21:02, 0:21:06]: zoning and code enforcement as proposed in the new city application. [0:21:07, 0:21:10]: Third, citizens need more background information. [0:21:11, 0:21:15]: I'm an advocate for disadvantaged children in our schools. This is what [0:21:15, 0:21:18]: has led me to get involved in the political process. [0:21:19, 0:21:24]: These are children who our politicians, legislators and policy makers are ignoring. [0:21:24, 0:21:30]: I believe that is because they do not understand w why the first three years of a child's life [0:21:31, 0:21:34]: is so critical to brain development and success in school. [0:21:35, 0:21:40]: These children will be negatively affected if this new city changes the ratio. [0:21:40, 0:21:43]: of economically disadvantaged [0:21:43, 0:21:46]: too economically advantaged. [0:21:48, 0:21:56]: ELERC in their PowerPoint presentation states there are no pockets of poverty in Henry County. [0:21:57, 0:21:58]: Checkouts in the No. [0:21:58, 0:21:59]: Sorry. [0:22:00, 0:22:01]: Uh uh. [0:22:01, 0:22:10]: Check out the neighborhoods with schools failing to make adequate yearly progress or pass the uh C C RPI. [0:22:11, 0:22:16]: We do have poverty in Henry County. The children born into these circumstances are not at fault. [0:22:16, 0:22:18]: And don't blame the teachers. [0:22:19, 0:22:22]: If this new city is formed with the objective to create a city [0:22:23, 0:22:26]: with a per capita income of over one hundred thousand dollars. [0:22:27, 0:22:37]: So that they can recruit more high end restaurants and businesses. McDonough and Stockbridge will lose much of their highest taxed earning properties. It's just not fair to our kids. [0:22:38, 0:22:41]: My second point, as required by Georgia [0:22:41, 0:22:48]: code and described in the february twenty fourth, updated february twenty seventh, Henry Herald. [0:22:49, 0:22:56]: ELERC states the city plans to provide its own parks and recreation, zoning and code enforcement. [0:22:56, 0:23:05]: Neighborhoods included within the proposed boundaries have their own playgrounds, pools, and tennis courts. Some are quite luxurious. [0:23:05, 0:23:10]: All Henry County citizens have access to strategically placed parks. [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: Is this elitism? [0:23:12, 0:23:13]: Or discrimination. [0:23:14, 0:23:18]: I do question why Stockbridge cannot have the same service [0:23:19, 0:23:31]: from a zoning and planning board as is implied in the ELERC proposal. This implies to me an elitist attitude that should not be reinforced. We cannot rob Peter to PayPal. [0:23:32, 0:23:33]: To my final point. [0:23:34, 0:23:35]: I feel like I'm not sure. [0:23:35, 0:23:41]: Sorry your time is up, Mrs. Flynn. Thank you for I will leave a copy for the record, please. Be fine. Thank you. [0:23:44, 0:23:44]: And more. [0:23:45, 0:23:48]: Let's motion we're gonna extend it. I'm motion to ex go ahead. [0:23:48, 0:23:49]: Yeah, you [0:23:49, 0:23:53]: Yes. Two more minutes. [0:23:55, 0:23:56]: All in favor? [0:23:57, 0:24:07]: Thank you. I tried to speed this up practice this afternoon. Uh but I don't talk like a Yankee anymore. [0:24:08, 0:24:10]: And getting old slows me down. [0:24:11, 0:24:30]: This is my final point. I feel the citizens are being manipulated and misled. My experiences in being involved on Facebook next door and their information forum related to ELERC have not been pleasant. I submitted questions which were read at the forum but they were not answered. [0:24:30, 0:24:35]: I have been given fair warning that I might be sued for sharing what I think is relevant. [0:24:35, 0:24:44]: I believe the information that is being published in the papers is being used to obfuscate the real issues of power and money. [0:24:45, 0:24:47]: Please help us to be better informed [0:24:47, 0:24:49]: about what is going on. [0:24:49, 0:24:51]: Thank you, Mrs. Flynn. [0:24:52, 0:24:53]: Thank you. [0:24:56, 0:24:57]: Thank you. [0:25:06, 0:25:08]: Boxy Harris. [0:25:16, 0:25:17]: Yeah. [0:25:21, 0:25:24]: I live in the city of Stockbridge, the city [0:25:25, 0:25:27]: Six twenty nine, Fairhaven Boulevard. [0:25:28, 0:25:30]: I've been out here since nineteen eighty nine. [0:25:31, 0:25:34]: And I have seen this city grow from a little old [0:25:34, 0:25:35]: Two lane. [0:25:36, 0:25:38]: sitting to what it is now. [0:25:39, 0:25:39]: In [0:25:40, 0:25:45]: If it's not broken, don't try to fix it by slamming us into a corner again. [0:25:46, 0:25:49]: And I agree with everything you all have in this proposal. [0:25:50, 0:25:52]: All right, we've done a fan job like we are. [0:25:53, 0:25:58]: And I think if we get destroyed, which virtually we will be destroyed with this merger. [0:25:59, 0:25:59]: Uh [0:26:00, 0:26:03]: What about the tax abase? What about the schools? [0:26:04, 0:26:07]: What about the social and economic development here? [0:26:08, 0:26:11]: And I remember when they were billing Eagles Landing. [0:26:11, 0:26:13]: Because my brother was an architect. [0:26:14, 0:26:15]: and a builder with Herman Russell. [0:26:16, 0:26:20]: And I don't see how this little piece of property [0:26:20, 0:26:26]: can come up and say, We wanna be a city and destroy historical stop bridge. [0:26:27, 0:26:28]: So it's more than just money. [0:26:29, 0:26:33]: It's the idea of keeping a social base. [0:26:33, 0:26:36]: Historical significance. [0:26:36, 0:26:38]: and independence. [0:26:38, 0:26:41]: So I greatly oppose this merger. [0:26:42, 0:26:44]: Thank you so much. [0:26:52, 0:26:54]: Britt News. [0:27:06, 0:27:20]: Good evening. Um I've I've not lived here as long as some I've not lived here as long as some. I've lived here longer than others. Uh we my wife and I moved here in two thousand nine. Uh I lost my job. [0:27:21, 0:27:25]: Not to any fault of anybody's uh I was at working at Fort McPherson. [0:27:26, 0:27:27]: We moved to Alaska. [0:27:29, 0:27:32]: And we had each option to move back. [0:27:32, 0:27:33]: To anywhere in the world. [0:27:34, 0:27:35]: We chose to come back to Stockbridge. [0:27:36, 0:27:38]: 'cause we know it's offered here. [0:27:38, 0:27:41]: We know what's the strengths, we know some of the weaknesses. [0:27:42, 0:27:44]: We are okay. No b no place can be [0:27:45, 0:27:50]: strong all the time. If if you don't have weaknesses then you have failures. [0:27:51, 0:27:54]: So a couple of things I'd like to um [0:27:55, 0:27:59]: make sure that is in uh study as [0:27:59, 0:28:07]: Has a proper tax survey and tax study been done on all locations that are not involved with the new development, meaning [0:28:10, 0:28:14]: What is the uh property tax going to be raised to? [0:28:14, 0:28:15]: Are we going to be able to afford it? [0:28:16, 0:28:18]: What are the school taxes gonna be? [0:28:18, 0:28:24]: If they're gonna be centralized in Eagles Landing, are we going to be able I've got a two year old son I've got to start looking at schools for. [0:28:26, 0:28:29]: The property values, are they gonna uh stay the same or are they gonna go down? [0:28:30, 0:28:35]: In my opinion, in college we studied situations like this was microeconomics. [0:28:35, 0:28:40]: You pull something away, the value's gonna go down because nobody's gonna wanna gonna wanna live here. [0:28:41, 0:28:43]: You gotta t lead the incentive for the people to live here. [0:28:44, 0:28:47]: And also the utility uh the so uh the [0:28:48, 0:28:50]: First responder availability. [0:28:50, 0:28:51]: If they go [0:28:52, 0:28:54]: If this is built within a city. [0:28:55, 0:28:58]: That's gonna take some of the first responders away from everybody else. [0:28:59, 0:29:01]: We're not going that which is going to raise our [0:29:02, 0:29:02]: Home taxes. [0:29:04, 0:29:06]: Because it it's just not gonna be available for us. [0:29:07, 0:29:09]: Is something has something been worked out for that? [0:29:10, 0:29:16]: Uh and has a thirty day notice been put out to all the residents that are not involved directly in this. [0:29:17, 0:29:27]: That's some of the things that I think. Were you in it or outside of the city? Uninquorable. [0:29:36, 0:29:38]: Leonard Reynolds [0:29:52, 0:29:56]: Name is Leonard Reynolds. I am at two hundred thirteen Briopracts Court. [0:29:57, 0:30:03]: I uh basically recently moved in. Uh great place. I love it. [0:30:03, 0:30:09]: Well uh my wife is actually she grew up here a little bit more than I have. I grew up out in McDonough. [0:30:10, 0:30:16]: Now I see uh I've I under from my understanding of the microeconomics is that [0:30:16, 0:30:19]: Well what's gonna happen? We don't know [0:30:19, 0:30:20]: That [0:30:20, 0:30:22]: If our property taxes are gonna go down or go up. [0:30:23, 0:30:26]: In that case if they go up our [0:30:27, 0:30:29]: Sorry. The [0:30:31, 0:30:38]: One concern I definitely have is that say an emergency happens, there ah the b uh some of the [0:30:39, 0:30:41]: fire departments or any of the emergency [0:30:42, 0:30:43]: Oh [0:30:43, 0:30:44]: Accessibility. [0:30:45, 0:30:53]: is basically now it's separated from us. Thus we'll need to uh say if we call in nine one one or anything like that, we'll definitely need to [0:30:54, 0:30:57]: I'd prefer to have somebody come in there within like five minutes versus [0:30:57, 0:30:58]: Maybe twenty? [0:30:59, 0:31:03]: Just in case my house is burning down. But other than that, uh the [0:31:03, 0:31:04]: Um [0:31:06, 0:31:11]: Yeah. Uh this right here i if we break off from uh from [0:31:12, 0:31:15]: I'll break off from the economics that we have. I [0:31:17, 0:31:19]: Don't see us oh [0:31:20, 0:31:25]: wanting or desiring to stay around as long as we have so far, and I do plan on trying to stick around. [0:31:25, 0:31:29]: Thank you. Could you tell us if you live in the city or in the county? [0:31:29, 0:31:30]: Oh. [0:31:32, 0:31:38]: It's unincorporated. It was the same street as the previous speaker. Thank you so much. [0:31:45, 0:31:47]: Jacqueline Carrier. [0:31:59, 0:32:05]: Hello, my name is Jacqueline Carrier. Um I live in the unincorporated portion. Um [0:32:05, 0:32:07]: You have to excuse me, I'm getting over an allergy. [0:32:08, 0:32:13]: Um I live at two thirteen Briar Patch Court, Stockbridge, Georgia, three zero two, eight one. [0:32:13, 0:32:14]: And [0:32:14, 0:32:19]: I've lived there for twenty five years. This is the house I grew up in. This is the house I would like to stay in. [0:32:20, 0:32:22]: And I believe there is some [0:32:23, 0:32:25]: unequal portions to this case. [0:32:26, 0:32:30]: We do need an economic study, we do need a look at taxes, how it would affect [0:32:30, 0:32:33]: um the different cities. I would actually like to know [0:32:34, 0:32:38]: why this was put in motion in the first place. I have not been informed or gotten [0:32:38, 0:32:39]: Or have received, I would say. [0:32:40, 0:32:41]: information on [0:32:42, 0:32:46]: what put this all into motion as to why. Who's actually getting the benefit out of all of this? [0:32:47, 0:32:51]: There's some things that just need to be addressed and um somebody previously said that [0:32:51, 0:32:53]: This has happened very quickly. [0:32:54, 0:32:54]: Um [0:32:55, 0:33:00]: with no information, not viable, good studies um information and um [0:33:02, 0:33:12]: I'm I'm wondering w when we were we would receive that to try to figure out what's gonna happen with our properties, what's gonna happen with our taxes. Also I would like to look at the schools and safety issues. [0:33:13, 0:33:16]: You know, how is it gonna affect us in access to safety? [0:33:17, 0:33:19]: So these are things I would like to address. [0:33:19, 0:33:23]: and I would like to um inquire about. [0:33:23, 0:33:23]: So [0:33:24, 0:33:26]: All right. Thank you so much. [0:33:32, 0:33:41]: For the record we have two individuals who signed up with the p public comment cards but did not want to come forward and and publicly speak. [0:33:42, 0:33:45]: That would be Miss Sabrina Jones and [0:33:47, 0:33:50]: Rucinar Anderson, I apologize if I um [0:33:53, 0:34:04]: Didn't get that right, but it's Anderson is the last speaker. Okay, we'll put those two forms in and make them a part of the record. Do we have any other speakers for the Eagles Landing issue? [0:34:07, 0:34:27]: If not at this time we thank all of you who came. You are more than welcome to stay for the remainder of the meeting. Um I'm sure that we cannot at this time answer questions that you had. We are not the ones um setting about to create a new city and it will be a while before [0:34:27, 0:34:30]: before we have data to [0:34:31, 0:34:46]: um hando as to the exact damage it would do to the city. But those things will come in future. And in the meantime I would recommend that you contact the people who are promoting the Eagles Landing as a new city. Thank you so much. [0:34:46, 0:34:47]: Yes. [0:34:47, 0:35:07]: You mind if you don't mind, I'd like to ask uh our attorney a couple questions here. In reference to your pro reference to your message, you talked about the uh bill has been dropped already in this aspect. So for clarity, if you know the answer, how does this affect how does this um go with the Senate? Is it to both senators, state senators have to approve this? [0:35:07, 0:35:13]: [2113.6, 2128.8]: Th the old rule generally was that the entire uh delegation representing the affected area had to support the local legislation before it would would proceed. So all the senators who have uh have touched the affected area [0:35:29, 0:35:32]: uh in the Senate and then of course similarly in the House. Um [0:35:33, 0:35:49]: It's clear that the current legislation does not have that support from all the affected members of the delegation. Um so as a result, it seems that they would have to change the rules in order to allow this to to go forward, if it were to go forward. [0:35:49, 0:36:00]: So right now both senators would have to agree and then and then you have the state reps as well. And I think for us in the city of Stockbridge it's about uh six additional folks. [0:36:00, 0:36:12]: And it would all have to agree unanimously before this would go forward? That that's what the rule t historically has been that the uh general assembly wants the uh delegation representing the affected area to be united. [0:36:12, 0:36:14]: All right. Thank you. [0:36:14, 0:36:19]: I I would like for clarity to ask a question of the attorney. [0:36:20, 0:36:22]: precedent has been set. [0:36:23, 0:36:25]: In the legislature, I believe. [0:36:25, 0:36:30]: that they would make it a general bill to run it through if they don't have that total support. [0:36:30, 0:36:44]: Is that correct? Um that has been discussed and and that's been done, but the bills that have been introduced, um and I think you all may have copies up there, um they were introduced as local legislation. So [0:36:45, 0:37:05]: I it's it's a question as well. In terms of um you know, uh we can only go by the limited information that we have. Um I think um uh city administrator Keith Dickerson from McDonald's said the new rules uh that were relayed to them [0:37:05, 0:37:25]: uh the l uh as a city in their annexation was that the commissioners over that particular area had to be um uh for it as well and it was noted that Commissioner Barnum was not for their um annexation on Jones Railroad so it was not moving. [0:37:25, 0:37:35]: moving forward. I think Commissioner Clemens stated clearly that she was not for this and a majority of this area uh a much of this area is in her commission district. [0:37:36, 0:37:46]: Yeah, and if I could just respond briefly. Yeah, I I saw that and I had not noted that anywhere in the r in the rules that the county commissioner had to support it. [0:37:46, 0:37:57]: But there again, if that is the new rule, the Councilman is exactly right that they should follow that rule and in this case they should not pass this legislation. [0:37:58, 0:37:59]: Mayor, could we [0:38:00, 0:38:01]: Yes, Councilman Blount. [0:38:02, 0:38:18]: There are the the two bills that have been uh dropped are House Bill two six two and House Bill two six three. So if any citizens want to go view those two bills, those are the numbers. Uh um correct me if I'm wrong, two six two is pertaining to the de annexation and [0:38:18, 0:38:25]: of property uh of uh area and two sixty three is dealing with the annexation to form the new city. [0:38:26, 0:38:31]: That's correct. And I would note um in looking at the copy of two sixty two [0:38:31, 0:38:39]: While it also de annexes significant portions of the city, there is also a provision for annexation of new portions which [0:38:40, 0:38:49]: Just looking at the what's presented, I don't know what areas those are, so we'll have to take a look at that and see what they're allegedly or or trying to add to Stockbridge. [0:38:50, 0:38:55]: Just real quick, those are Senate bills, um two six two, two six three, not House bills. [0:38:56, 0:39:02]: Okay. Any other comments? Otherwise we're gonna move on to the business of the evening. [0:39:02, 0:39:20]: Um first thing we're going to bring up is under old business and that is a Mayor Neil, excuse me. Yes. Okay. So we do have two regular not in regards to people's landing. [0:39:20, 0:39:30]: All right. These speakers that will be coming up will be addressing issues that relate to the remainder of the business of the evening. So call those names if you would. [0:39:40, 0:39:45]: Uh good evening again, Mildred Reed, Fire Thirty Creek View Overload. I was here [0:39:45, 0:39:47]: at the regular council meeting. [0:39:47, 0:39:53]: And I wanted to make sure it was on the records for the work session. I had w was requesting that the council [0:39:54, 0:39:57]: City Council and the Mayor would support the Miles [0:39:57, 0:39:58]: For meals. [0:39:58, 0:40:05]: is coming up on May sixth. I have documentation that I will I left with you all earlier, but I'm gonna leave it with the clerk. [0:40:06, 0:40:08]: as to which sponsorship level you all would [0:40:09, 0:40:13]: like to support it. I won't go into a long dissertation, but it's Council on Aging. [0:40:13, 0:40:15]: Mouth for meals. [0:40:15, 0:40:23]: Um May sixth. Okay, thank you. And that that would be something that would be on our next meeting agenda if we [0:40:24, 0:40:27]: choose to go that route. Anybody have a comment? [0:40:28, 0:40:29]: Yeah. [0:40:29, 0:40:31]: All right. Uh Miss Anderson. [0:40:44, 0:40:48]: Hi, I'm uh Recina Anderson, I'm a city um [0:40:49, 0:40:50]: Lusina Anderson. [0:40:51, 0:40:53]: And I live within the city of Stockbridge. [0:40:53, 0:40:58]: I'm not certain if this is something I need to mention now or not, but I saw the city managers [0:40:58, 0:41:05]: uh was gonna make comments during this meeting and I thought maybe after that I would be able to to to speak. But [0:41:06, 0:41:09]: My uh issue was I wanted to first of all commend [0:41:10, 0:41:10]: Uh [0:41:10, 0:41:15]: Everybody on allowing the code enforcement officers to enforce the parking. [0:41:16, 0:41:17]: in our subdivisions. [0:41:18, 0:41:22]: This has been a a great problem in our subdivision, Summer Hill subdivision. [0:41:22, 0:41:26]: For the past three years that I've been the president of the Homeowns Association. [0:41:26, 0:41:29]: And we've had very bad issues with [0:41:30, 0:41:30]: Fa [0:41:31, 0:41:35]: And ambulances being able to to get through the areas where the school buses. [0:41:35, 0:41:40]: And they have really, really improved it over the last few weeks. So [0:41:40, 0:41:41]: I wanted to ask [0:41:41, 0:41:46]: if you all whoever needed to allow the enforcement officers to please [0:41:46, 0:41:49]: write the tickets and not just give the warnings. [0:41:50, 0:41:51]: allow them to write the tickets. [0:41:52, 0:41:54]: allow them to tow if it comes to that. [0:41:54, 0:41:57]: Because it will only take one time. [0:41:57, 0:42:00]: And some people some of the residents are just very stubborn. [0:42:01, 0:42:02]: And have been for years. [0:42:02, 0:42:09]: So it will get around, the word will get around, it won't take that much, but I just wanted to say please allow the code enforcement [0:42:09, 0:42:14]: to have the the hand to go ahead and enforce the the law to the fullest. [0:42:14, 0:42:16]: Thank you so much for those comments. [0:42:20, 0:42:34]: Hear no further comments. Okay. Now we'll move forward and we're going to ask our city manager Michael Harris to come forth and present to the council consideration to approve the social media policy of the city. [0:42:39, 0:42:39]: Hmm. [0:42:54, 0:43:10]: Thank you, Mayor. Good evening, Mayor and Council members. Um this was discussed at a previous meeting, I think the previous work session, and what this is is a proposal to adopt a social media policy. At the time, I reached out to council members to ask if anyone had any comments. [0:43:11, 0:43:13]: or any amendments they'd like to see proposed. [0:43:13, 0:43:15]: um for this policy. [0:43:16, 0:43:17]: I hadn't heard any [0:43:17, 0:43:37]: Um that we did make some tweaks to it over the course of the last day or so. I think you had one in a revised version that was handed out, but I wanted to give you a revised version that was highlighted with the actual proposed amendments to the copy you had previously. And just for the sake of expediency, I'll go through and just kind of highlight some of the key key points. Some of them are just simple text editions. [0:43:37, 0:43:38]: [2618.7, 2619.3]: Um [0:43:39, 0:43:59]: But three of the main ones are uh you know again you see uh uh uh an i a consistent emphasis on the PIO position throughout the document, um and that person's responsibility as relates to posting information, posting things on our city Facebook page, and that would fall pri principally to them at the direction of the C. [0:43:59, 0:44:06]: city manager. Um is one of the key key issues. And if you turn to page [0:44:07, 0:44:08]: Three, the last page. [0:44:09, 0:44:12]: Two of the other big ones relate specifically to [0:44:12, 0:44:13]: Um [0:44:14, 0:44:20]: Um once elected officials are encouraged to establish their own social media accounts and be solely responsible for its content. [0:44:21, 0:44:34]: Um and the last bullet point on that page, CD social media accounts strive to be fair and consistent and therefore will be not be used to promote individuals, businesses, organizations or nonprofits since doing so could be associated [0:44:35, 0:44:36]: were considered rather unfair. [0:44:37, 0:44:57]: to such other entities and would require increased staffing. For this reason only city events as approved by the city council would be moted. However, community events or other initiatives would require approval by the city manager. So we think that taking these steps will help to certainly streamline the activities and have a develop a consistency in how we're handling [0:44:57, 0:45:15]: our social media affairs. Again, knowing that you just received some of these some of these amendments just now or just within the last day or so, certainly not asking for a vote at this time, but I'd like to take this for consideration and but would like to bring it back at the next voting session for consideration for approval. [0:45:15, 0:45:18]: happy to address any questions or comments that any council members may have. [0:45:18, 0:45:21]: Does anyone have a question? Okay. [0:45:21, 0:45:24]: Um Councilman Robinson. [0:45:24, 0:45:44]: You had mentioned that with the elected officials that on the um city web page it would be like uh an attachment that they can go to each council member's personal page. Is that still to be true or not? Well, you know, I went back through and did some other research looking at some other jurisdictions and it is not [0:45:44, 0:45:52]: not set up that way. They will have you can you can email your um representatives but the majority like all the ones that I I I researched [0:45:53, 0:46:11]: they had their own individual you can go to them and and c pull up their name and they had their own individual um Facebook page. And you know the ones that I saw that did have not all of them did, not you know from I looked at a number of different jurisdictions and you may have one or two um council members who opted to have their own page [0:46:11, 0:46:14]: And it would have pictures of events that they attended that they were participating in. [0:46:16, 0:46:17]: Closure. [0:46:18, 0:46:22]: Uh Councilman Alexander. A couple of things real quick. [0:46:23, 0:46:43]: Uh first of all, this is totally related to uh the city social media account uh in all aspects is what I'm reading and confirming. This is just a city uh uh Facebook um or social media platforms. And the question that I would have is uh under the last highlight which is [0:46:43, 0:46:49]: is the city will not uh either edit or post responses. [0:46:49, 0:46:56]: And then someone comes on there, they're using foul language or they're using uh inappropriate dialogue. [0:46:57, 0:47:06]: Does this preclude this from being removed from the page?'Cause I mean, in these days and times we have people that post any and everything. Right. [0:47:06, 0:47:07]: Which [0:47:07, 0:47:16]: On the second page? On the second page is the last highlighted items is that the city will not edit other posts slash responses. [0:47:24, 0:47:44]: Oh I think this is inform uh um from an internal standpoint, but we can respond to if someone gives a i if there's some disinformation that's being posted out there, then we can respond to it. I think it does another portion of the policy, it does speak to the ability um to respond [0:47:44, 0:47:46]: [2867.1, 2873.9]: I'm saying if s some in something inappropriate is posted, we don't reserve the right to remove that. [0:47:58, 0:47:59]: The zone of okay. [0:48:03, 0:48:11]: Personal attacks, vulgar language, discriminatory or inflammatory posts by others are strongly discouraged. If a post is determined to be in violation of this policy, such posts may be removed. [0:48:11, 0:48:22]: Okay, and one other question if I may. In terms of just like today, just for instance, practical application, there was something uh there was a veteran's job fair. [0:48:22, 0:48:24]: that was here in Stockbridge. [0:48:24, 0:48:44]: In order for something like that to post who has the ultimate um the the decision making, the PO PIO officer if we hire one, will that person be the sole person judging it? Will there be guidelines for them to do so?'Cause I sure would have liked to see that veterans' job fair out there today. [0:48:44, 0:48:46]: And it's a good point. [0:48:47, 0:48:53]: The challenge we have in that, we've had this discussion um at some point a couple of years back actually. [0:48:53, 0:49:10]: If we begin to open it up to one organization, then invariably you have to open up to all that may want to advertise on the website. So I think there has to be a distinction and perhaps it may mean having to come back with a set set policy. You know, I it it so it's going to be either all or none. [0:49:10, 0:49:16]: you know, in cases like that. So having to have um some discernment on what is [0:49:17, 0:49:19]: You know, you certainly want to make sure we are getting forward [0:49:19, 0:49:22]: viable information, you know, for the community, but [0:49:22, 0:49:27]: In so doing, we have to be careful that if we are promoting events [0:49:27, 0:49:29]: for other organizations [0:49:29, 0:49:30]: Probably or private. [0:49:30, 0:49:31]: Um [0:49:31, 0:49:33]: Then if we start down that road. [0:49:33, 0:49:53]: then you have to continue down that road. So I think there's a a line you have to and that's why I think the last line in there is also there shall be some discretion by the city manager to determine if something if there's something is a borderline that we think well this is obviously something of a of a benefit for the entirety of the of the community that needs to be reflected. But you know, businesses, public [0:49:53, 0:50:05]: and private, hold job fairs on a regular basis. So um is that something that the council would like to see us advertising for? You know, how you make that distinction um between a public entity and a private entity per se? [0:50:05, 0:50:09]: Um so I think there's some challenges innate with that as well. But I think you know this what this is saying [0:50:10, 0:50:13]: that that determination would be made by the PIO [0:50:13, 0:50:15]: as directed by the city manager. [0:50:16, 0:50:36]: So it'd be one individual and that's one of the other key points with this, it'd be one individual with hold the responsibility of going through and making the post and posting those items on there. So put it then again if there's uh items that, you know, certainly the determination is made that this is certainly within the public good, that everyone should have this information, then I think you can look at cer certain [0:50:36, 0:50:38]: certain items on a case by case basis. [0:50:39, 0:50:40]: I hope that addresses your question. [0:50:43, 0:50:44]: Madam Madame. [0:50:45, 0:50:48]: Yes, Councilman um Lakeisha Gantt. [0:50:48, 0:50:48]: Thank you. [0:50:49, 0:50:50]: Um Mr. Harris, uh [0:50:51, 0:50:54]: On the very last paragraph it does give you discretion [0:50:55, 0:51:04]: um, you know, to post certain things and I know each council member have we have initiatives, um, so to speak. Um [0:51:05, 0:51:15]: And those initiatives are for the citizens and so coffee with the cop or the nonprofit organization or something that councilwoman need [0:51:15, 0:51:16]: Those things would still be [0:51:17, 0:51:20]: received as posted, correct? [0:51:20, 0:51:32]: And I think it makes that point. This would actually focus solely on those that are city events as opposed to city initiatives. If that's something that the council would like to revisit then certainly we can look at it that way. But [0:51:32, 0:51:34]: That's something we were [0:51:34, 0:51:38]: For those things that were initiatives, individual initiative items. [0:51:38, 0:51:44]: those could be relegated to the individual's personal pages or personal Facebook pages. [0:51:45, 0:51:58]: But we're doing it for the city. So uh we're using city funds t as part of initiatives. There's a set aside amount. So if there's a non profit the nonprofit mixtures coming up in April [0:51:59, 0:52:19]: And it's for all the citizens you would want that posted as an event that's taking place within the city limits of Stockbridge, regardless of the council member of whom sponsored it. And so if that's the case then that's the change that I would like to see is just to add those council [0:52:19, 0:52:36]: So those the city initiatives, not necessarily say council initiatives, those city initiatives. Right. Anything that comes from the city um yeah, city funds basically, city initiatives. [0:52:36, 0:52:39]: The number of initiatives could be anywhere from [0:52:39, 0:52:42]: five to fifty in the course of any one year. [0:52:42, 0:52:48]: Um so that's also part of that challenge. I mean I know there's a limited number of funds that uh city mi the city council has [0:52:48, 0:52:50]: for those, but they can be [0:52:51, 0:52:55]: That can certainly get overwhelming as you can imagine. So that was a thought of relegating this [0:52:56, 0:53:16]: Because sometimes you can be you can have so much content on your Facebook page, things get lost. And I think that's one of the challenges that we've had over the years. Um so the focus being on for those individual initiatives, if those could be relegated to the individual's Facebook page and just keep the city's Facebook page solely for those city events, but certainly that can be, you know, that's [0:53:16, 0:53:18]: the desire of the council, we can respond accordingly. [0:53:21, 0:53:22]: Any other comments? [0:53:22, 0:53:37]: Um for Tim Ford. That I I'm concerned with uh if it's spearheaded by a council member and it's using city funds for an initiative, I also would think it needs to go on a website because it's it's using city funds. [0:53:38, 0:53:42]: in that aspect, I think that'd be appropriate. Okay. I just want to make sure I I chime in on that one. [0:53:43, 0:53:43]: Mayor. [0:53:44, 0:54:04]: Uh yes, Councilman Alexander. I would say this, there is either a compromise position to that. The city initiatives could go on the city Facebook page without the councilperson's name. It's still a city event. So if you put the city event on the city Facebook page as a city event to advertise [0:54:04, 0:54:09]: Without the name, wouldn't it be do accomplishing the same thing? [0:54:11, 0:54:24]: Yeah, yeah, i i it it could. And you speak to one of the other issues and speaking to some of my peers in other other other municipalities, you know, one of the concerns was if you'd never want to have it come across as campaigning throughout the course of a term. [0:54:24, 0:54:28]: You know, so you want to make sure you're protecting against that. So that may be a way to [0:54:28, 0:54:29]: offset, you know. [0:54:30, 0:54:31]: That perception certainly. [0:54:33, 0:54:33]: Mayor. [0:54:34, 0:54:36]: Uh yes. [0:54:37, 0:54:54]: You know, some people gonna look at this differently, but we're elected officials. We're here to serve and if we're using city funds, that is our opportunity to show where those funds are going. Because people, this is public w records and it may be overwhelming to some, but we have a duty. [0:54:54, 0:54:56]: um to the citizens. [0:54:56, 0:54:57]: to do what we have to do. [0:54:58, 0:55:00]: Um and that's why we were elected. [0:55:00, 0:55:00]: So [0:55:02, 0:55:06]: Again, we're all saying the same thing. That is something that we're here [0:55:06, 0:55:07]: Um [0:55:07, 0:55:09]: to do and and be accountable. [0:55:10, 0:55:13]: And if it can be overwhelming, I think that's just something that we [0:55:14, 0:55:16]: possibly just need to look at. Um [0:55:18, 0:55:23]: But we as elected officials we have a duty. [0:55:24, 0:55:26]: Uh yes, Councilman Blount. [0:55:27, 0:55:30]: [3331.2, 3338.1]: I understand where you're coming from when it comes to those uh entities that come into the city that are paying for facilities. [0:55:38, 0:55:44]: And even if what they're doing can benefit the citizens, those are private entities that come in. [0:55:44, 0:55:49]: then we can have a uh we can say, okay, well these are s entities coming in, even if it's a [0:55:50, 0:55:53]: benefit to the citizens, they're bringing it in, they're c they're doing the cause for it. [0:55:54, 0:55:58]: But when it comes to council and initiatives, since we're at large and we're not in districts [0:55:59, 0:56:01]: those citizens that elected us in positions [0:56:02, 0:56:06]: For instance, when I was doing a back to school kickoff [0:56:06, 0:56:17]: I'm on the ground running. I'm going I'm going to businesses. I'm going to uh w I'm I'm on the ground running and I don't think it's fair for anyone to be on the ground running with any initiative up here. [0:56:18, 0:56:24]: and all the other council members can do if neat or like any anybody, anybody doing the initiative [0:56:24, 0:56:28]: And all we do as other council members come in and take a a a photo op. [0:56:29, 0:56:33]: then I don't think it's fair for those that are putting the putting the groundwork. [0:56:33, 0:56:53]: for those initiatives and making it happen. So I do think that that that council member that's on the ground dealing with the public and making things happen, they should be recognized. Because we are at large. So if you elected me to make things happen, then let's see the results of w what we was elected those council members for. When Neat does a c uh unity in the community [0:56:53, 0:56:55]: I think she should be recognized. [0:56:55, 0:57:03]: When you do your mixer, they should be recognized. Call for the copy should be recognized. Elton Arizona wants to do the the uh workout over there at the party, he should be recognized. [0:57:04, 0:57:08]: But is there is there city funds being used? Of course there are. [0:57:08, 0:57:20]: As long as we don't go overboard we're just talking about an advertisement of an event that a council member is doing. We're not talking about sitting here, you know, I think we do enough that we could we we deserve that. [0:57:20, 0:57:28]: Well well you make a great point. You know, if it's advertising that event, that's one thing. Sure and I think that's that could certainly be deemed as appropriate. Um [0:57:29, 0:57:49]: But when we get into multiple pictures throughout the event and and and everything that comes along with it, then that's where it becomes again that perception of is this campaigning or where's that line exist? And and please know, you know, this was taken from you know, we looked at a number of different uh jurisdictions and got input from them on how they conduct [0:57:49, 0:58:07]: their their social media policy so it wasn't in in any way, shape, or form an attempt to try and stifle um the efforts that are being done by the council. It's simply looking at a methodology that we think would help streamline the process and and then make it more appropriate how we present it. [0:58:08, 0:58:10]: Um [0:58:10, 0:58:23]: I I was just gonna suggest, since this is a discussion item, if the council has other points that you'd like to make, if you would maybe um turn those in to the city manager. [0:58:24, 0:58:29]: Would that be agreeable with everybody since this is not going to be a vote item tonight? [0:58:29, 0:58:39]: If you would please study this uh presentation that he's given you and get back to him if you have objections in any areas. [0:58:39, 0:58:42]: If we could move on. Is everybody okay with that? [0:58:43, 0:58:59]: Okay. All right. Then we are concluding with our old business and we'll move on to new business and the first order business will be presented tonight for us by Susan Crutchfield who will tell us about the Paint Henry Blue campaign. [0:59:08, 0:59:26]: Good evening, Mayor Neal and and this is Robin. She's gonna tell us a little bit about it. Um good evening, Mayor Neil and City Council members. We are with Prevent Child Abuse Henry County and we are here representing um a citizens group called Paint Henry Blue that gets together together every year. [0:59:26, 0:59:29]: for child abuse prevention month, which is in April. [0:59:29, 0:59:37]: We always have a kickoff to that month, which is a big awareness month for us, and this year it's gonna be March thirtieth on a Thursday. [0:59:37, 0:59:40]: And we would love to have it this year in the city of Stockbridge and [0:59:41, 0:59:44]: Would like to use the Merle Manders Conference Center if possible. [0:59:44, 0:59:45]: Um the amount [0:59:45, 0:59:48]: Um set up for the event would start around five o'clock. [0:59:49, 0:59:52]: And cleanup would be finished by eight thirty. [0:59:53, 0:59:53]: Um [0:59:54, 0:59:57]: We will have some group some children's groups singing during the event. [0:59:58, 1:00:01]: We will have um a band there also. [1:00:02, 1:00:05]: We will have a pinwheel vigil um [1:00:05, 1:00:05]: We'll have [1:00:06, 1:00:11]: Law enforcement will be there, um, with their blue lights to help us paint Henry blue. [1:00:11, 1:00:13]: Um we also have [1:00:13, 1:00:14]: Um [1:00:14, 1:00:17]: Speakers. Yes, all the mayors will be there to do a proclamation. [1:00:18, 1:00:20]: on child ab for child abuse prevention month. [1:00:20, 1:00:22]: We will also have two um [1:00:22, 1:00:24]: speakers at the event. [1:00:25, 1:00:32]: Yeah, both of the speakers are survivors of child abuse, uh adults at this point and are speaking out to the community. [1:00:33, 1:00:38]: Um and one is a gentleman who is actually a detective in DeCab County now. Uh [1:00:38, 1:00:40]: And a a young lady who is a [1:00:41, 1:00:42]: Uh child. [1:00:42, 1:00:51]: had uh graduated from the a friend's house and is uh still interning with them and is also a survivor of children's as well. [1:00:52, 1:00:55]: Okay. Do you um? [1:00:56, 1:00:58]: Yes, Councilman Alexander. [1:00:58, 1:01:18]: I I would just like to say thank you all and commend you all for what you're doing. Uh we uh got to enjoy the the event last year in Hampton. It was absolutely fabulous and I'm I'd like to thank you all for bringing this to the city and uh whatever we can do to help you. [1:01:18, 1:01:29]: you uh to increase awareness. I'm willing to do that personally because I think what I saw was such an extraordinarily beautiful event and thank you for blessing the city. [1:01:32, 1:01:33]: Yes, Councilman Blount. [1:01:34, 1:01:36]: Have you all checked are are those dates open? [1:01:36, 1:01:37]: I don't know. [1:01:37, 1:01:38]: Well yeah. [1:01:38, 1:01:41]: Is anybody planning to make a motion? [1:01:41, 1:02:01]: I would like to make uh Robinson. Excuse me, I'm sorry, Mayor Neal, if I may, before you make the motion, I just wanted to clarify that there are some costs associated from the city side. Um some food, some other items that would be um need to be purchased. Uh if you can include within the motion just the approval for [1:02:01, 1:02:15]: or to utilize funds from the governing miscellaneous fund. I know Davida's been working on this along with our Main Street Department um to help uh with with with with the folks from um Paint Henry Blue. So if you can include that that funding [1:02:15, 1:02:18]: Not to exceed seven fifty I think would probably be appropriate. [1:02:19, 1:02:22]: Seven fifty, I think is what we talked about earlier. [1:02:22, 1:02:22]: Okay. [1:02:23, 1:02:25]: We'll turn to Councilman Robinson for the motion. [1:02:26, 1:02:34]: Thank you so much. I was there in Hampton, so I was excited when the um clerk said you all will be w in Stockbridge. Wonderful event. [1:02:34, 1:02:46]: I think the clerk has an ag uh change to that amount, um, City Manager. So I would like to make a motion. [1:02:46, 1:02:47]: Okay. [1:02:49, 1:02:50]: Please go ahead. [1:02:50, 1:03:05]: I would like to make a motion um for the twenty seventeen Paint Henry Blue um to be able to use the Myrtle Manders Conference Center with the approval of gov using funds from the governance miscellaneous fund not to exceed a thousand dollars. [1:03:06, 1:03:07]: A second. [1:03:09, 1:03:14]: We have a motion and a second by Councilman Gantt. Uh is there discussion? [1:03:17, 1:03:20]: No discussion. All in favor? [1:03:22, 1:03:26]: All opposed? Thank you so much. Thank you both for coming. [1:03:31, 1:03:42]: The next presenter will be Nan Jenkins who is the director of a friend's house and she's gonna come up about the twenty seventeen Taste of Henry promotional partnership. [1:03:47, 1:03:52]: I might add that Nan Jenkins is a graduate of Stockbridge High School. [1:03:53, 1:04:13]: Class of nineteen no, two thousand and one I think. That's correct. Thank you, Mayor Neil. That is exactly correct. Um Mayor Neal and Council members, thank you for uh allowing me the opportunity to come before you again this year. Um I believe I was in front of all of you except for uh Mayor Neal last year. Uh [1:04:13, 1:04:26]: Taste of Henry and um as you just heard from the uh ladies from Prevent Child Abuse, a friend's house has a seat um on the Prevent Child Abuse board as well and and I do feel that seat and uh [1:04:27, 1:04:30]: It's just a wonderful thing because obviously we are all here [1:04:31, 1:04:31]: Um [1:04:32, 1:04:33]: Two [1:04:33, 1:04:43]: uh prevent child abuse and uh unfortunately we are the place where the kids reside uh when there has been uh bad abuse and so [1:04:44, 1:04:48]: we do feel that if if we can partner with them um and have it stop then [1:04:48, 1:04:52]: Maybe one day there won't be a need for a place like a friend's house. [1:04:52, 1:05:12]: Uh the reason I'm coming to you tonight is just simply uh as I did last year to ask for your support for our Taste of Henry event. This is the 16th year of our event and it is one of two uh major fundraisers that we do for a friend's house. The other one is our benefit dinner, which we do for [1:05:12, 1:05:18]: hold here at Burr Manders every year and um have for the the p past five or six years. [1:05:18, 1:05:38]: uh and enjoy that. Uh this event itself is in McDonough and the reason for that is because we do have the big um pavilion out there so it can be a rain or shine event and that is the reason it is held in McDonough. However it is Taste of Henry and it does uh represent all of [1:05:38, 1:05:40]: The um [1:05:40, 1:06:00]: caterers, eating places, beverage places, uh anyone who basically serves food um or beverage in Henry County. And I'm really pleased this year. Um uh Kira the other day sent me um a list of all the restaurants in Stockbridge and I just started going down the list and uh we already have [1:06:00, 1:06:13]: have two new places, the Soul for Souls restaurant and also the Drip Through Coffee that is there on the corner. Um are two new ones and then of course Boys and Kroger and um [1:06:13, 1:06:27]: The Wings of Fish Grill was uh in Jodico. They participated last year, they're pretty much on the fence uh this year and think they're gonna do it. And then there's a couple of catering uh places as well that reside in the city. [1:06:27, 1:06:31]: um that are gonna do it as well. So so far we have a around twenty [1:06:32, 1:06:52]: um places signed up and six of those are particularly uh it within Stockbridge so as we try to spread it around to all of our communities uh Stockbridge is already very well represented. We do put up banners for the event. That's one of the ways that we advertise. Last year you all granted us that opportunity. [1:06:52, 1:07:10]: And um again I worked with Kira and she had those hung around the city and uh I just think it was just great exposure uh for our event and I would just really appreciate it. Um again, we last year was our biggest year ever for Taste of Henry. I think that was helped out a lot by the um [1:07:11, 1:07:16]: The weather, uh because uh we had a a great deal of attendance there. [1:07:16, 1:07:36]: the city of Sotbridge uh in Main Street, they do have um a booth there and uh share information so it's a great uh public awareness event for the city as well. And again at a friend's house uh which is where our kids live last year, last fiscal year we served ninety three children, which is the most children we've served in the last eight years. [1:07:36, 1:07:38]: Years in one year. [1:07:38, 1:07:51]: Um and our average stay per child was uh 102 days last year. So um that's uh a lot of days out of a child's life, but uh we are glad that that they have a friend's house to stay at. [1:07:51, 1:08:02]: And uh we're uh required to raise about forty six percent of our budget and Taste of Henry is one of those ways that we are able to do it. So uh uh any support you all [1:08:02, 1:08:07]: could give would be greatly appreciated and if you have any questions I would be happy to entertain. [1:08:07, 1:08:08]: Mayor. [1:08:08, 1:08:12]: Yes. I just um I have a um I guess [1:08:12, 1:08:26]: You do a great job. I met you at Stockbridge High School with the cheerleaders. Is there a possible way we would love to invite you to come when we do our um outdoor events such as uh Food Truck Tuesday to bring awareness to our community? [1:08:27, 1:08:38]: that would be great. Um, something that you can come out and definitely share with our community. Um because this is some good information that a lot of people are not aware of. So if that's something that would be great. [1:08:39, 1:08:58]: Yes, I would that would be a great thing. I know that we come to the the nonprofit uh forum every year and that's great and uh that would be a another great opportunity. We we love to go anywhere we can to get the word out because we also of course depend a lot on volunteers. Uh that's a huge part of what we do at a friend's house and so um [1:08:58, 1:09:08]: to get the word out, you know, that we're there so if people want to help or volunteer, we we love that opportunity. So I'd be pleased to do that. Thank you, Naean. Do we need a motion, anything? [1:09:08, 1:09:10]: I got a question I need to ask me. [1:09:11, 1:09:16]: Um on these uh on the donations and ways that you can uh help a friend's house. [1:09:17, 1:09:36]: People that have in kind donations, is there a list somewhere? Is on the website. Yes, sir. There it we have a website. W dot ta um that's sorry, Taste of Henry on the brain, uh a friendshouse dot org. But you also can go to taste of henry dot org and and we put everybody's logo and you can see all that as well. But yes, we have a list that runs [1:09:37, 1:09:57]: um all the time on our website about ways to volunteer and different uh in kind donations that that we do accept. With the in kind donation is it on the website tells how to get it to you?'Cause I don't see it on the other side. Yes sir, we we don't do any kind of pickup but uh you can always bring the donations directly to um to a friend's house any time because there's [1:09:57, 1:10:00]: someone there, unfortunately all the time. So [1:10:01, 1:10:12]: Uh yes, per Tim Ford. Yes. Of the what we did last year we had uh we had actual banners at what two or three different locations in the city. Do you know? King? [1:10:12, 1:10:14]: Four locations, okay. [1:10:20, 1:10:31]: Over in front of at the point of work in the Western Boulevard, um there was one that I think that's Friday Road, that's a road. There was [1:10:32, 1:10:46]: in front of Walmart because I'm sitting there one day as I'm making my rounds to the restaurant, I was like, There's a sign I rolled down my window and took a picture so um and we provide the banners um here provided the manpower and specifically where they should go so [1:10:46, 1:10:55]: Okay, make sure I understand you're only asking for th from us. If I maybe I went maybe I missed it. You're only asking for us for these banners to go up. The manpower put these banners up, is that correct? [1:10:55, 1:10:58]: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That's all I'm asking for. [1:10:58, 1:11:05]: S that's and uh okay and I guess the the recognition dinner mural manners, that's a different case, that's something later on in the year. [1:11:05, 1:11:08]: Yes, sir. That's something we do all on our all on our own and [1:11:09, 1:11:29]: All right. Yes. Okay, thank you. Okay. Uh since we don't need a motion or do we? That's correct. I think this is just, you know, getting okay from the council. There's no um financial expenditures in this case, but there is obviously there is human capital being used, secure as time, public work staff will be putting up the banner, so make sure you all are okay with that and what [1:11:29, 1:11:30]: proceed as we did last year. [1:11:30, 1:11:33]: I have a question. [1:11:33, 1:11:51]: Last question. I'm always thinking about starfish. And y and definitely you have this event here. Might they be giving some thought to having an outdoor event a second outdoor event here in the city?'Cause we do have tremendous turnout when we have these events here in the city. [1:11:52, 1:12:06]: Yes, sir. I have be I came to one of the the food truck things last or two or three times, but one time specifically. Uh it's a great event and again the the main reason that we do it where we do it is just because of the cupboard. Um [1:12:07, 1:12:27]: Because if not then if it's raining then it's gonna total'cause it's really funny because even a bad year in the rain, which the three previous years were, we had uh eight or nine hundred people because they s you can still come out and come under the covered pavilion. But um you know, if we do it completely [1:12:27, 1:12:47]: the outdoors then it will just totally be a wash if something should happen and it should rain. I just don't even want to say it because I teach myself too many times. But I would love so whenever y'all get that pavilion built, I'm ready. I'm ready for the city'cause I've like said, I grew up here and [1:12:47, 1:12:49]: This is where I still live, so it's great. [1:12:49, 1:12:57]: Thank you so much. Um let me ask uh poll the council real quick, are you okay with this without a vote? [1:12:57, 1:12:59]: Or does anybody want to make a motion? [1:13:00, 1:13:06]: Mayor Neal, I move that we approve the twenty seventeen Taste of Henry Promotional Partnership. Second. [1:13:06, 1:13:11]: Okay, I have a motion by Gantt and a second by Robinson. All in favor? [1:13:12, 1:13:15]: You're official. Thank you very much. Good to see you all. [1:13:18, 1:13:29]: Now this time we're calling on our human resources director to come up and present uh consideration to approve our new employee manual update. [1:13:41, 1:13:43]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [1:13:44, 1:13:45]: Um [1:13:45, 1:13:50]: What you have before you is the um updated version of the employee manual. [1:13:51, 1:13:55]: And there were a few sections that um had to be updated. [1:13:55, 1:13:56]: Um [1:13:57, 1:14:00]: Since the last update was in two thousand thirteen. [1:14:00, 1:14:04]: We added the new um statement of our mission values. [1:14:05, 1:14:07]: and vision statement um to the [1:14:07, 1:14:08]: A manual [1:14:09, 1:14:10]: There was an update. [1:14:10, 1:14:12]: Uh would you all have approved of the um [1:14:13, 1:14:14]: Progressive discipline. [1:14:15, 1:14:17]: policy on page thirty two. [1:14:17, 1:14:18]: Which was added. [1:14:19, 1:14:24]: We updated the inclement weather and emergency circumstances, which is on page twenty. [1:14:25, 1:14:28]: We added uh section forty eight hundred. [1:14:28, 1:14:33]: It may not be on your table of contents, but it is on page twenty six, children at work. [1:14:35, 1:14:39]: We revised and updated chapter nine on types of leave. We [1:14:39, 1:14:43]: went in and did a new annual encyclically policy, so now we [1:14:43, 1:14:45]: updated the total policy in the manual. [1:14:46, 1:14:48]: uh for all employees to adhere to. [1:14:49, 1:14:54]: We added section nine eighty, which is donated leave on page forty six. [1:14:54, 1:14:57]: and add an update of section fourteen hundred. [1:14:57, 1:15:00]: of job abandonment on page forty eight. [1:15:00, 1:15:04]: So those were the only sections that were updated in the manual. [1:15:04, 1:15:08]: besides some minor adjustments to clarify some areas. [1:15:11, 1:15:13]: Do you want to ask a question or make a motion? [1:15:13, 1:15:18]: Uh I'm gonna ask I'm gonna make a comment if you don't mind. Okay. Thank you. Pro Tem Ford. [1:15:19, 1:15:21]: Renee, but when you said the page numbers [1:15:22, 1:15:27]: We don't have to have a lot of people. You have the table of contents? Yes, table of contents. [1:15:27, 1:15:32]: There's a table of contents in your in your package. And I was just noting those [1:15:33, 1:15:38]: Yeah. Pages are the the pages are not numbered in our version. [1:15:39, 1:15:41]: Okay, well I'll have to give you those. [1:15:44, 1:15:52]: Okay, I'm gonna give you I'll give you a new update of the table contents. The other comment I like to make is uh I like this I like the fact the statement of philosophy and mission [1:15:52, 1:15:55]: statement of our vision, mission statement, values [1:15:55, 1:15:56]: And we act. [1:15:56, 1:16:02]: and and we will act in a way that promotes peace and and unity. I like that. I'm glad the employees are getting that. [1:16:02, 1:16:04]: Very good statement. Thank you very much. [1:16:05, 1:16:05]: Okay. [1:16:06, 1:16:07]: [4568.0, 4577.1]: Have a question from Councilman Alexander. Yes, we've been uh the city manager and uh has um undertaking the scorecarding. [1:16:17, 1:16:35]: Is that factored into this at all or how does that work? Is it is it applicable to the manual at all in terms of the scorecarding? The scorecarding is basically dealing with our projects and programs that a staff is involved in and basically it's to uh [1:16:35, 1:16:39]: task out what we're doing at a given time and giving it an end date. [1:16:39, 1:16:42]: So the scorecarding is more of an accountability. [1:16:42, 1:16:50]: type of measurement that we're using uh for staff. But it has nothing to be added to the uh it would not be added to the fully manual. [1:16:51, 1:17:05]: Mayor Neal. Yes, Councillor. Yes, that would be fine. [1:17:06, 1:17:07]: Um do week. [1:17:08, 1:17:11]: Okay, yes, that's what I was gonna say. Make a motion if you would. [1:17:11, 1:17:12]: Um [1:17:13, 1:17:25]: I don't have to make a motion to just we don't have to make a motion to just uh move on. To table until the next meeting. Is that what you're saying? Yes. Okay. Um let me [1:17:27, 1:17:36]: Are you okay with that? Madam Mayor, if no action is taken then this can be brought back at the appropriate time. So you can't. Okay, just no I no motions needed. Okay. All right. [1:17:37, 1:17:39]: Let's move on. Um [1:17:39, 1:17:46]: The next uh presentation will be by our public works director, Decius Aaron, and he's actually [1:17:46, 1:17:55]: presenting two items, but we'll start with council consideration to approve statewide contract for public works sewer department. [1:17:57, 1:17:59]: Good evening, Madam Mayor and Council. [1:18:00, 1:18:03]: I'm coming before you the request approval to purchase [1:18:03, 1:18:07]: An L five fifty with the crane on it for eighty four thousand five hundred and three. [1:18:07, 1:18:09]: Forty eight dollars from Wade Ford. [1:18:10, 1:18:23]: uh we're gonna be replacing a twenty year old vehicle that is a workforce for the wastewater collection division and that it's used to pull motors and other things of that sort that weighs between five hundred and twelve hundred pounds. So [1:18:23, 1:18:32]: This vehicle is twenty years old, it's out use it's outlived its useful life and the maintenance cost exceeds the value of the vehicle, so [1:18:32, 1:18:42]: We're requesting your approval to purchase this vehicle. Okay. Do I hear a motion that we accept this presentation? Can I I want to do that? [1:18:43, 1:18:45]: I wanted to ask Mr. Harris. [1:18:46, 1:18:48]: Okay, please pause just a minute. [1:18:48, 1:19:08]: Um okay we have someone in it asked to m make a motion. Question. But less a question. Okay, go ahead if you would, Councilman Alexander. I appreciate our new public works director coming in, assessing the equipment because our people need good uh projects, good equipment to work on. The one thing I just I want to direct this to the [1:19:08, 1:19:17]: city manager in terms of I have a granddaughter, we have children. In terms of in terms of equipment at some point [1:19:18, 1:19:38]: evaluation on m moving to some gr more greener type of uh more environmentally sensitive type of equipment. Um is any uh weight being given to that at all at this point or we just trying to we just need to buy something and well in this case we do we need to replace an [1:19:38, 1:19:55]: outdated um um piece of equipment. There have been some conversations. I can tell you I have some experience and uh Mr. Aaron and I have had some other conversations in regards to um compressed gas, natural gas vehicles. There's certainly it's it's an investment, I'll tell you that. Um [1:19:55, 1:20:15]: Councilman McGann had a conversation uh regarding electric vehicles and seeing where their usefulness may be appropriate within the incorporating and began looking at incorporating some of those within the uh stormwater fleet. So those are conversations we have started, you know, right now. A big yeah, a lot of this goes back to the uh process of going through the asset [1:20:15, 1:20:35]: management that we did because we need to get a uh an accurate accounting of all the equipment that we have. So once we going through that process for a year and a half that you know Ms. Neighbors and her team um working with our public works department we spearhead, that was critical because that gave us at least a snapshot and a baseline of what do we have. [1:20:35, 1:20:55]: and what's the current condition of those of of that equipment. So once we're able to go through and make that assessment, we need to start making the determination of, okay, what needs to be replaced right now and w how much w what are other some of the other items that we have, maybe you know, a couple of years, five, ten years before and start looking at a re actual replacement schedule for our equipment and other capital [1:20:55, 1:21:15]: some of our other capital items. Um but certainly as we have those conversations, those conversations progress, looking at ways to utilize either again natural gas or electric vehicles and incorporating that into our fleet is something we would like to do. Right. [1:21:14, 1:21:22]: equipment but making sure that we are incorporating this at some point that we get to that we are looking out for the environment. [1:21:25, 1:21:32]: Well one of the other things too when you're talking about compressed natural gas is finding places to get the fuel from. If it's not [1:21:33, 1:21:41]: in a close proximity to you, then it kinda hampers and limits you as to what you can do and what you can use the vehicle for. This is the vehicle that's used [1:21:42, 1:21:42]: constantly. [1:21:43, 1:21:50]: And you're talking maybe a hundred, a hundred plus miles a day on that vehicle sometimes. So if you don't have a fueling station nearby [1:21:50, 1:21:57]: It makes it be kinda obsolete because you can't use it as much'cause you spend time going back and forth trying to get [1:21:57, 1:21:58]: fuel for it. [1:22:00, 1:22:05]: Okay. Uh any other questions? Mayor, just one question. Okay. Councilman Blount. [1:22:05, 1:22:06]: Mr. Harris [1:22:06, 1:22:07]: Um [1:22:08, 1:22:12]: The um Public Works Department has a budget for this or where will this come from? [1:22:12, 1:22:18]: Public works budget, yes. It was budgeted item. So the kill two birds and one stone, that's on both proposals. [1:22:19, 1:22:25]: Yes. The next two items, yeah, both items. Those are budget items that were approved in the December budget that was approved. Yes, sir. [1:22:26, 1:22:31]: All right, do I hear a motion that we move forward w with item five? [1:22:32, 1:22:33]: Mail. [1:22:33, 1:22:45]: Madam Mayor, I move that we approve the um item number five F five fifty with the nine inch crane. Nine foot crane. Nine foot cream. Yes. Yeah. [1:22:45, 1:22:48]: Okay, thank you. Okay, and we have a second to that. [1:22:49, 1:22:51]: Um any further discussion? [1:22:52, 1:22:53]: If not [1:22:53, 1:22:54]: All in favour? [1:22:57, 1:23:00]: No opposed? Passed. Okay. And um [1:23:00, 1:23:08]: Mr. Aaron, if you would continue with item number six. Yes, Madam Mayor. The next item is to replace three Ford F one fifty [1:23:08, 1:23:12]: that's past their uh serviceable life, so we're requesting permission to [1:23:13, 1:23:13]: Purtis three. [1:23:14, 1:23:15]: four point fifty is from [1:23:16, 1:23:21]: Alan Vigil Ford and Morrow, Georgia, for a cost of seventy five thousand nine hundred and ninety three dollars. [1:23:23, 1:23:28]: Okay, you've heard the presentation. Uh any questions before we call for the vote? [1:23:30, 1:23:31]: Have a motion. [1:23:32, 1:23:41]: Well Madam Mayor, I would like to make a motion that we approve the Ford three F Ford one hundred fifties four by four super cat pickup trucks. Second. [1:23:41, 1:23:47]: That was a motion by Councilman Gantt and a second by Pro Tem Ford. All in favor? [1:23:49, 1:23:49]: Thank you. [1:23:50, 1:23:53]: Right, thank you so much. Thank you very much, Madam Mayor and Council. [1:23:53, 1:23:55]: Give that in a hundred tonight. [1:23:56, 1:24:07]: Thanks. Okay, let's move on to our procurement specialist, um Don uh Donald Riley has a presentation number seven. [1:24:16, 1:24:24]: Good evening, Madam Mayor and Council members. I have uh count for council consideration approval of [1:24:25, 1:24:30]: approval the recommendation of diversified environmental management inc [1:24:31, 1:24:35]: for demolition and sight clearing services of the one forty six Burke Street. [1:24:36, 1:24:37]: in Stockbridge, Georgia. [1:24:38, 1:24:38]: Yes. [1:24:39, 1:24:43]: You've heard the presentation. Do I hear any questions? Yes. [1:24:44, 1:25:00]: Okay, Councilman Alexander, you may go first. Uh my question is to this council and I think I said this, you know, when we originally tried to do this. I'm absolutely for moving forward, but I think I don't want to see an empty lot sitting there. [1:25:01, 1:25:12]: for a year or two. Uh so I think maybe we might wanna just get at least an informal commitment that we are going to move forward with a new facility. [1:25:13, 1:25:33]: Uh once this demolition has taken place, um whether that be through bonding or uh with uh city funds that may come from uh other uh liquidations or what have you, uh because I don't think anybody desires to tear this facility down and then have it sit [1:25:33, 1:25:39]: there for uh the next two years. I'd just like to hear what the council is willingness to move forward with that. [1:25:41, 1:25:44]: Uh Councilman Blount asked to speak next. [1:25:45, 1:25:47]: Um in respect to [1:25:47, 1:25:49]: Councilman Alexanders. [1:25:49, 1:25:50]: Um proclamation. [1:25:50, 1:25:51]: Um [1:25:52, 1:25:58]: I would like for us to go ahead and approve this and go because this is what's at hand now and we can deal with [1:25:58, 1:26:09]: what we're gonna because we're gonna move forward with what we're gonna what we've already agreed to. So I I'm I'm motion that we go ahead and consider the uh and approve the uh d uh diversified environmental management [1:26:09, 1:26:29]: For the demolition of this uh for the services of our budget. Okay, so you've made a motion. Do I hear second? I second. Second by um Councilwoman Gantt. All in favor? Discussion. Oh sorry, discussion, you're right. [1:26:29, 1:26:49]: Like the you know what I'm saying, because literally if we tear this building down, we have not made a commitment to do anything at this point. Now we have uh about seven or eight items that we have already committed to that we're gonna do fiber optics and other things that we remove from the two thousand and sixteen budget. [1:26:49, 1:27:09]: We can talk and we can say it, but at the same time we gotta be committed to doing and and taking some action because basically if we move forward with this, I'm for terror I'm for moving forward with this, but I'm also for tying that to some let's say maybe [1:27:09, 1:27:26]: Maybe in sixty days, ninety days or whatever, we come back with some type of resolution on or maybe six months, I don't know, on what we're going to do to move that property forward so it is not left a barren wasteland on our main street. [1:27:28, 1:27:41]: Okay, we've had discussion. Uh Councilman um Pratem Ford. Yes. Actually this question is for Mr. Harris. In reference to the design uh so so we knock it down [1:27:41, 1:28:01]: Then we got to design a building, uh what we want to look like. How where where do we stand with that? Or have we selected anybody in this aspect? Uh no, we we've we've had the initial conversations about it. Obviously this was an initial step um on getting the process done and looking being able to see exactly what our footprint's gonna look like. Um but there is when we're going through the budget conversation. [1:28:01, 1:28:21]: Um we did identify some funds within SPLOS to begin the design work. So as we get beyond this one, the next step in the process would be based on the council's previous conversations and directives that we would move forward with the beginning of the design. Okay. So we have SPLOSS money for to select the contractor uh that would [1:28:21, 1:28:41]: would to go through the process of designing. So in reference to Councilman Alexander down here in a time frame, what does it look like to have an idea of amount of time that we could select someone, pay them a certain amount they can get here to do this six months, three months? Well i i to to get the process started certainly within a within a six month time frame. [1:28:41, 1:29:01]: You know, again that's just a design, doesn't mandate when something has to happen from that point on. We've already met myself, Mr. Riley, and Miss Neighbors, we've talked about and we're bit by bit systematically going through and prioritizing the the items that we can put out. And this is on our top ten list, certainly. Um so certainly we anticipate within the next thirty, sixty days [1:29:01, 1:29:21]: You know, we would be moving forward with the RFP for these services. And I'm in favor of knocking the bill it down, but also we need to put something in place to indicate and show that we're making progress in reference to the design and we selected someone and we and we got something that we're reviewing to make this thing happen. Yeah, that's a good point. And I think it should be noted I think the [1:29:21, 1:29:41]: design portion is going to be a very interactive um activity with council members and even you know I would certainly um welcome having uh citizens be involved in that process as well to hear from them what it is they'd like to see within this. And there's a couple of other components that are floating around out there that we still need to see how that material [1:29:40, 1:29:50]: materializes to that that may have some have some um some bearing on exactly what we want this uh this facility to function as [1:29:50, 1:29:52]: Yeah. Okay. Well thank you. [1:29:53, 1:29:57]: Okay. Uh comment down from Councilwoman Robbins. Thank you, Mayor. [1:29:58, 1:29:59]: Michael, I have a question. [1:30:00, 1:30:20]: So you're saying with the d design phase we have to knock it down first because we talked about doing it last year. Right. So that's the only way we can start the div design phase is to knock it down, or this could been something that we talked about last year and we could have had the design. [1:30:19, 1:30:32]: design already in place this year. I mean part of the issue has simply been man time time and time and manpower. I mean to be able to put RFPs out. Um we're [1:30:33, 1:30:44]: kind of going through a number of contracts right now we're trying to get work through. And you know, I certainly want to be able to see, give them, be able to show them a clean slate of this is what you're working with, this is the footprint that you're going to be working with. [1:30:44, 1:31:04]: a after the demolition to see what it yields. Um I think it's noted on here that they have to go through do an a asbestos study as well. Okay. Um and it had to be some environmental studies on the ground underneath just to make sure what it's suitable for. So part of it would in um involve um environmental studies, um geotechnical studies to determine what you [1:31:04, 1:31:13]: know what could or should be built in the certain areas. And I asked that question because I know that you recently came on. I just wanted you to know [1:31:13, 1:31:26]: probably why the questions are coming up. You know, we don't want it to be just sitting the nothing. Um so I just wanted to bring you up um so you wouldn't just think we're right at you. Okay. Quick follow up please. [1:31:26, 1:31:46]: Okay. Any other questions or comments? Quick follow up. Now this is what I want to ask the city manager. Okay, when do we we approve this contract tonight? Does it have to be knocked down immediately? Does uh you know how long uh how long uh optima on an optimum stage [1:31:46, 1:31:49]: [5509.6, 5515.4]: Were we looking at knocking it down and that lot being empty? Or can that kinda be kinda staged up? [1:31:56, 1:32:16]: Well and I don't I don't want to sound like I'm not I'm trying to skirt the question. Part of it is going through do that asbestos studies and seeing what that yields. Depending on what that study yields, that may amend the scope of their work and it could elongate the time. We don't believe, based on our initial assessment that was done, that there is an asbestos. [1:32:16, 1:32:18]: Yeah. [1:32:18, 1:32:21]: Um but but uh we don't think it's gonna be anything that's gonna [1:32:22, 1:32:23]: [5545.4, 5551.5]: Okay. Yeah. Full ninety days once we had the fully executed contract. [1:32:31, 1:32:50]: We're having it knocked down to the dirt. We're doing everything from the retaining walls to the curb side to the lights. Everything is going down to the actual dirt. So from thirty days from now we'll probably have a fully executed contract and then we'll go through what is called a uh [1:32:50, 1:32:51]: A schedule. [1:32:51, 1:33:00]: We'll have a actual schedule and then we'll give you the schedule so that you know exactly when the contractor is gonna knock it down and have everything done. [1:33:03, 1:33:23]: Uh pretem forward. In reference to knocking it down, are we even thinking about or is it feasible to save anything, bricks or anything like that? Does it make sense to try to reclaim anything? Have you looked at that? Yeah, good question. We actually had those conversations at length. Um and it just yes certainly th that could elongate the time for [1:33:23, 1:33:43]: going through that process. Now what we'd have done and and to Mr. Raleigh's credit, we had a um someone indicated that they may be interested in some of the fixtures within the building. So we went back out um went through a full surplus with some of the a number of the items, but now we're going through it's gone back through taking pictures of all the bathroom fixtures and those have been posted on [1:33:43, 1:34:03]: Gov deals. We've already received a couple of bids. Those close out, I believe, March ninth. March ninth. And so at that point they'll be given, you know, the the short time frame to notice a like a couple days to come in and collect their items. And then at what point. So we're trying to maximize everything that we can from out of that building. So that's the same thing. [1:34:03, 1:34:10]: Yeah, again we've already received some bids and we anticipate those numbers going up before it's closed after the case. [1:34:10, 1:34:17]: Uh yes, Councilman Robinson. Anything? [1:34:19, 1:34:39]: I I we've been through the big thing. If it's anything that we think is usable certainly, but you know we fact we've a couple of the we had a relatively new HPAC unit, we took that and we pulled that out and we're using that as a surplus unit now. What we're talking about is is is the the bathrooms or the [1:34:39, 1:34:51]: the fixtures are relatively old. Okay. I mean those are original fixtures, uh toilets, sinks, partitions, things like that. That's what they're and I have no idea what their proposed use is for, but I you know, I think for in this case, you know, it's [1:34:51, 1:34:52]: Um [1:34:52, 1:35:12]: We we're gonna want all of our fixtures, things of that nature to be brand new for obvious reasons. I I would like to make a comment if it's okay for the mayor to make a comment about this. I think what we have to recognize is that there is a process for taking down the building, um, bringing it back to [1:35:12, 1:35:32]: a grassedover area until such time that it it's an evolution of trying to figure out what's the best um structure that will go back on that site. And it's not that they're trying to put you off, Councilman Alexander. It's I think it's an evolution of a system [1:35:32, 1:35:36]: that you've got to work through through procurement. Um and so [1:35:36, 1:35:37]: I don't [1:35:37, 1:35:38]: I think at this point [1:35:38, 1:35:42]: we'll move forward with your motion to [1:35:42, 1:35:47]: Um passed um item number seven. [1:35:47, 1:36:00]: So that we can take this building down and look to the future to see what's going back on that site at the appropriate moment. So um any other comments? Yes, Mayor, please. [1:36:00, 1:36:01]: Okay, Councilman Blank. [1:36:02, 1:36:02]: Um [1:36:03, 1:36:04]: And I've talked to you distancing. [1:36:05, 1:36:11]: done about this. W one of the things that has to be understood here, uh that because I knew we're being recorded [1:36:11, 1:36:15]: Is that there's some things that were put in place that we agreed upon? [1:36:15, 1:36:26]: even prior to you coming in, Mayor Neal, and I don't know if you've been updated about the uh progressive way that we wanted to uh move with this property so that property so when we hear that some st [1:36:27, 1:36:29]: that this is going to happen. [1:36:29, 1:36:40]: of course is gonna trigger the other uh significance that we wanted to happen with it. So that's where we're at and so I I I I agree with Councilman Elton Alexander, believe it or not. [1:36:40, 1:36:44]: That we have to put something in place. [1:36:45, 1:37:00]: We have to put something in place and and and I think this council as a whole have said that we came up with this with these uh ideas prior to uh Mayor Neal coming in and that's that is a concern. And I think uh one of the biggest concerns of all of us has been uh [1:37:01, 1:37:02]: Getting things done. [1:37:03, 1:37:10]: You know, the city wants to see things done and so that's been one of the d the detriments of the city of Stockbridge that we [1:37:10, 1:37:21]: We're wanting to move but we're not getting things done. So I think that we're putting uh people in place to make that happen and I thank you for uh moving uh as speedy as you have and I appreciate that. [1:37:22, 1:37:24]: Thank you so much. Okay. [1:37:24, 1:37:25]: All in favor. [1:37:28, 1:37:37]: No opposed. Thank you so much. Let's move on to item number eight. And uh Councilwoman Lakeisha Gantt is going to present that item for us. [1:37:38, 1:37:40]: Yes. [1:37:41, 1:38:01]: I was looking at year a couple of years ago um I went to Henry County's seniors um the senior authority in the Council of Aging and we were talking about why don't we have events here or why don't we have a senior center here in the city limits of Stockbridge. Stockbridge is the high [1:38:01, 1:38:21]: highest populated area in Henry County and our closest senior center is located in Fairview area. And so um and then there's one in McDonough, but the most populated area which is the city of Stockbridge, and that's prior to annexing in anything, um we [1:38:21, 1:38:41]: We don't have a senior center. So I I think this council being the progressive council that we are, we are even if we don't have that senior building, I would like to try to spearhead um an event for seniors. Um and I I plan on meeting with some of the council of aging board members about this. [1:38:41, 1:39:01]: Where they have a seniors mix and mingle game night at the uh Ted Strickland Center on March twenty-third. I think it would be a great opportunity for the council members to come out and meet some of our seniors. Um I hope that the cost will be little to none. I plan on reaching out to some uh [1:39:01, 1:39:17]: uh corporate sponsors. Um and so I think it'll be a great idea for us to, you know, reach out to our seniors and let them know that we're here and we plan on doing more activities such as these. Okay. So I ask for your support. [1:39:17, 1:39:24]: Uh do you want to make that to a form of a motion? Oh yes, I I've got a question. Okay. Councilwoman Robinson. [1:39:26, 1:39:27]: Great idea. Great idea. [1:39:28, 1:39:48]: Is this something with the council of aging that we possibly can make a regular like a monthly something? Because this is something that is a real important need here in our city. So I would like to see if you can get with them um to not just make it one day. That's something that we can do [1:39:48, 1:40:02]: more you know, frequently um to g have our citiz um seniors involved, that would be great. But this I'm definitely for this t as a start, but I think that would be something good to continue to spearhead. Um [1:40:03, 1:40:08]: So that way our seniors will have um activities here in the city of Stockbridge. [1:40:09, 1:40:29]: Thank you, um, Councilman Robinson. I I appreciate your support in that. I actually spoke to Henry County a couple of years ago and they stated that they barely got the Hampton Senior Center done. But I think it's time for us to start speaking up um, you know, in regards to things that we deserve right here. Um [1:40:29, 1:40:49]: um in the city limits of Stockbridge and I think that's the excellent idea that we get with the council aging and try to do more of these so that if there's an interest with the seniors, if they come, we can start considering that senior center. Hopefully that building will provide the building that we plan on rebuilding will provide an area for our [1:40:48, 1:41:08]: seniors, but we have to see that the citizens are also interested and I think this is a great way of starting that. So I just asked you guys, I'm gonna make the motion that you uh would support me um in spearheading this event and I would love for everybody to join in with me if you can um at the TIT [1:41:08, 1:41:14]: Strickland Community Center on March twenty third for a game night, fun night, mix and mingle with the singers. [1:41:15, 1:41:22]: Second that. Okay, we have a motion by Councilwoman uh Gantt and a second by Pro Tem Ford. All in favor? [1:41:24, 1:41:33]: Okay, thank you. We'll move on to the next item on our agenda, which is about fiber optic, and we're going to hear from [1:41:33, 1:41:35]: Stephen Lisi. [1:41:35, 1:41:37]: Uh Liberty Technology. [1:41:38, 1:41:53]: Madam Mayor, answer coming. Um this is in in response to a conversation we had with the council recently in regards to fiber optic in particular and taking those next steps. Um Stephen Lees is here as well as the [1:41:53, 1:42:13]: president for Liberty Technology, Mr. Ben Johnson, just to give uh another update in regards to the fiber initiative that we've talked about previously and kind of giving their overview. Um earlier this week or late last week there was a webinar in regards to fiber connectivity for the cities. I'm not sure if any council members had a chance to see it, but um [1:42:13, 1:42:33]: And I've got some points I want to make at once they finish up their presentation, but this will kind of the first step toward the next step in advancing this initiative forward. So with that I'll turn it over to Stephen and before you start, if you would excuse me just a minute, I'd like to ask one of our staffers to turn the heat up a little bit. We're frozen up on the diet. [1:42:33, 1:42:34]: Yes, that's here. [1:42:35, 1:42:49]: We turned the air up earlier today. It was kinda warm in here, so we did not turn up. Okay, go ahead, Mr Lee. Sorry. No, that's fine. Thank you very much. Madam Mayor, Council members, nice to see you again tonight. Uh [1:42:50, 1:42:58]: Thank you for this opportunity to speak with you on uh the fiber proposal for you, which we're gonna give you basically some options to consider this evening at this point in time. [1:42:58, 1:43:04]: I brought uh Ben Johnson who is also the owner of Liberty along uh on this um [1:43:04, 1:43:09]: Primarily because he's just smarter than I am on these issues, so I have to defer to his judgment on that. [1:43:09, 1:43:16]: But uh just wanted to at least introduce the concept to you, go through the pros and cons, and at least give you some food for thought on how to move forward, you know, with these proposals. [1:43:17, 1:43:22]: We have preliminarily identified, as you should have in your package, a a fibre loop. [1:43:22, 1:43:31]: Uh this was based on the retreat that uh the council had uh last August, I believe, um when over in Fayette County where there was discussion of trying to have connectivity [1:43:31, 1:43:36]: primarily to the city buildings and t for the downtown area if to serve the economic development purposes. [1:43:36, 1:43:40]: And so it's a roughly about a a little bit more than a two mile loop. [1:43:40, 1:43:50]: Yeah, that we're looking at at this point in time. Of course this is not set in stone. Yeah, there's options to uh locate it as needed, you know, depending on what the council's ultimate desires end up being. [1:43:51, 1:44:05]: But this appears to be probably the the path of least resistance in order in terms of getting fiber in the ground uh to serve primarily the downtown area and the municipal locations. You could then provide Wi Fi off of this loop once it was in place. [1:44:06, 1:44:08]: Again, this is still a very preliminary design. [1:44:08, 1:44:28]: Your biggest obstacles, of course, are the railroad. You know, trying to get over the railroad and then be which you'd have to cross twice if you want to completely have a an actual loop uh going around from the city buildings through the downtown and connecting everything back together. Yeah, there's there's no easy way to get there's no easy way to to do that without crossing over what is proposed on this. [1:44:28, 1:44:38]: be trying to either go acros along the uh the poles on the bridge and come back down that way and then there are some poles crossing and back over the tracks at the far further end of the downtown. [1:44:38, 1:44:44]: Um that of course any kind of pole attachments uh uh are going to be once at a cost with this. [1:44:44, 1:44:47]: as well as if you have to do any underground that's gonna be a different set of costs. [1:44:48, 1:45:00]: from looking at things airily, I think most of it is going to be above ground due to the the density and the uh layout. I mean you have a lot of sidewalks and concrete areas which I think would make it more cost prohibitive to really go through. [1:45:00, 1:45:03]: And uh try to do a lot of underground work at this point in time. [1:45:03, 1:45:06]: But ultimately this would have to be done [1:45:06, 1:45:11]: But a a a study would have to be done, an engineering study would have to be done to determine the feasibility of what are going to be the best options of [1:45:12, 1:45:14]: Yeah, above ground, below ground, or some hybrid mix thereof. [1:45:15, 1:45:17]: Uh that being said, um [1:45:18, 1:45:22]: I understand there's some d there's been some discussion already of of what are the uh [1:45:22, 1:45:23]: I'm sorry. Yes. Uh [1:45:24, 1:45:24]: Come. [1:45:24, 1:45:27]: Oh Mike, could you go back to the previous slide? [1:45:28, 1:45:46]: Yes, sir. Just just maybe I missed this. The little circles on the diagram th those mean poles? Uh no, those are not actually poles. It's just the the way this is drawn on Google Earth, uh that's just the connection points, you know, to the line. So this is this these aren't actually poles there. It's just when you draw it with Google Earth or Google Maps it [1:45:46, 1:46:05]: It automatically puts in those poll those dots there when you're doing the connection points there. Yeah, because some s the more some areas have you know more of them conjugate together, some are spread out and I just wonder what the exactly this was just to be able to get a preliminary layout and to put it onto Google Maps so you could have something presentable on this. So those are just the lines where as I was you know trying to [1:46:05, 1:46:12]: follows straight lines along property paths. So this follows more like those dots normally are where there are straight points from one point to another. [1:46:13, 1:46:22]: Yes sir. So um so in regards to [1:46:22, 1:46:26]: either pole locations or underground or even wireless options to [1:46:26, 1:46:28]: to create this that would be [1:46:28, 1:46:31]: why there would need to be an engineering study done to figure out [1:46:32, 1:46:36]: Who owns which poles, who already has space on said poles. [1:46:36, 1:46:39]: You know, what the rates are in terms of doing pole attaches. [1:46:40, 1:46:51]: Um so that's we're we're well before that point and um Liberty Technology wouldn't be providing the engineering study. So we're at the point [1:46:51, 1:46:53]: Right now, I believe of [1:46:53, 1:46:54]: You know, do [1:46:55, 1:47:01]: Does the city want to own their own fiber network or not? Or do we want to prov uh does the city want to [1:47:01, 1:47:06]: uh pursue some sort of hybrid option or what what are the options actually on the table right now? [1:47:06, 1:47:26]: Follow up question. In reference to the railroad and possibly going tw twice over the railroad attracts, in your experience uh uh are they real difficult difficult to deal with? I mean how does this normally work? Do you do you Well in this case we're looking at the polls? Whoever's the owner of the polls, whether it's Georgia Power or you know the telephone companies is primarily who would be dealing with [1:47:26, 1:47:28]: If we were trying to go underneath the railroad [1:47:29, 1:47:41]: Uh what I'm trying to do is avoid having to deal directly with the railroad on that. So trying to either go over you know by attaching the the power or telephone poles or going across the bridge, which again would be go over the railroad right of way. [1:47:41, 1:48:01]: So so yeah the term the term right away is is is one really to to keep in mind here is who who either owns that or has permission to already use that and um those are the folks that um the city we had to work with to get permission to attach to their to what's essentially their property, whether or not the city [1:48:01, 1:48:03]: you know, gave them permission to put it there or not. [1:48:04, 1:48:05]: Okay, thank you. [1:48:07, 1:48:16]: Councilman Alexander. Yeah, a couple of points. Um in terms of uh reaching out to ATT, Comcast [1:48:16, 1:48:36]: Um there was another vendor that had applied for a permit. Is there any fiber been identified uh in these areas or existing fiber or plans thereof? And in terms of moving across surfaces, I mean AT and G Jess Wire Patrick. [1:48:36, 1:48:44]: Henry, they just ran it across a pole, pole to pole, to uh across the bridge area, which is sim [1:48:44, 1:49:04]: Seemed kind of very simple, but in terms of identifying actual fiber is fiber in existence, because the school board has endeavored to wire every school in Henry County. Sh we have a school in downtown, so is it what's the uh outreach mechanism to them? [1:49:04, 1:49:18]: So I guess just one point and I'll I'll let Stephen I'm sorry to check the front of you, Stephen. I I guess really the the biggest thing here is is the question of do you want to rent? Because if you go through ATT or Comcast or [1:49:18, 1:49:38]: you know, whoever, um, Google, etcetera, um, you know, they own it, you're gonna be making payments on it forever. You know, it's essentially a rental type arrangement. And you're gonna be we've got some pros and cons here laid out that may answer that a little bit better, but you know, rent versus ownership is a question here and whether or not [1:49:38, 1:49:40]: The city would have an asset [1:49:40, 1:49:42]: that they could then um [1:49:42, 1:49:45]: help to achieve some of the the goals I've seen up on the screen. [1:49:46, 1:49:48]: Through the pr previous presentations [1:49:48, 1:49:52]: Um, you know, whether or not the city has that to provide to citizens. [1:49:53, 1:49:54]: businesses, etcetera. [1:49:54, 1:49:57]: Or whether you guys are just um [1:49:58, 1:50:00]: uh renting that as a service [1:50:01, 1:50:05]: Um and and just have permission to use someone else's fiber. [1:50:05, 1:50:06]: So there's fiber [1:50:07, 1:50:09]: on all these polls everywhere. It's already [1:50:09, 1:50:12]: connecting, you know, just about every [1:50:13, 1:50:15]: you know, neighborhood, um [1:50:15, 1:50:30]: you know, your f your phone calls right over it, your cell phone calls right over it, but they don't just give that away or give permission to ride on that same path um away or even rent it for [1:50:30, 1:50:33]: what I would say an economical cost. [1:50:33, 1:50:35]: Um [1:50:35, 1:50:37]: We've um [1:50:38, 1:50:58]: I guess I'll I'll just let you figure it up from there in terms of um the outreach and uh Henry County, um other other folks that we've Right. At this point in time we haven't officially reached out to let's say ATT uh for example, because a lot of it is dependent on which way you want to go, whether it it is the renting versus you know having your own dark fiber because again there are [1:50:58, 1:51:18]: are pros and cons of going each way. We do have contacts with ATT. We have sat down with them and they've made us aware of that they will have fiber in the area, but they've not necessarily given us a set of plans saying, hey, this is all the areas we're covering. Obviously we're working with the city right now even on getting some fiber put into [1:51:18, 1:51:21]: the ground to the some of the facilities for phone lines, for example. [1:51:21, 1:51:31]: It's going through a vendor, Airspring, who's also basically getting a lot of the lines you know, through AT and T. So we know AT and T does have fiber within certain locations already in the city connecting some of the buildings. [1:51:31, 1:51:51]: As a follow up, I think we had this conversation about the changing technology and how fast this stuff changes. And so if we buy some technology today and we invest in it and then that technology then that you know we partner with uh a free provider, then they're on the hook. [1:51:51, 1:52:11]: for upgrades and new technology versus us being on the hook for that. So I would like to have that information uh available for us when we do make the decision because this is a huge investment and then it's outdated in a few years. Yeah. [1:52:11, 1:52:11]: [6732.2, 6734.1]: scalability and [1:52:14, 1:52:15]: Um [1:52:15, 1:52:17]: speed increases. I mean light is [1:52:18, 1:52:19]: [6740.4, 6742.9]: fastest things in the universe or is, right? [1:52:23, 1:52:26]: um Einstein visits, etcetera. Um [1:52:27, 1:52:31]: So based on that, um single mode fiber can go [1:52:31, 1:52:48]: faster today than any endpoints that you can put in between it. Um so from a you know, there's no technology that's future proof, but from a strategic investment standpoint, really the only [1:52:49, 1:52:50]: Um true. [1:52:51, 1:52:53]: um competitor or threat. [1:52:54, 1:52:56]: to a municipal fibre network. [1:52:57, 1:53:00]: would really be through one of the wireless vendors, say a Verizon or [1:53:01, 1:53:03]: Won't need Verizon or Sprint or [1:53:03, 1:53:18]: whoever with some of the more advanced LTE technologies. Um Google, a as everybody knows, I'm surprised I haven't heard that men mentioned yet, has been in the area and and and they've been building out a massive fiber network nationwide. [1:53:19, 1:53:29]: Um you know a few months ago they actually pulled back on all those efforts due to due to the the last mile issues. Cost. Due to cost. And and primarily the cost [1:53:30, 1:53:33]: of getting it from this backbone network. [1:53:33, 1:53:36]: Into buildings, into people's homes. [1:53:37, 1:53:38]: And that's where the [1:53:39, 1:53:42]: That's not to say this isn't expensive, but that's where [1:53:42, 1:53:45]: things can kind of get real I mean oh, sixty thousand dollars to get [1:53:46, 1:53:51]: you know, uh ki uh fiber optic cable from here to, you know, the parking lot. [1:53:51, 1:53:55]: You know, and and it's all due to it being horizontal board or [1:53:55, 1:53:57]: all you know, all kinds of stuff like that. [1:53:57, 1:54:00]: So they've pulled back on a lot of these efforts. [1:54:01, 1:54:03]: But they haven't stopped them at all and [1:54:04, 1:54:07]: Um, you know, we look at um the city of Griffin has been at nearly [1:54:08, 1:54:10]: Probably going on eight or nine years now. Um [1:54:11, 1:54:14]: relatively quietly building out their own fiber optic network. [1:54:15, 1:54:19]: And um you know, they're running um municipal cameras on it. [1:54:20, 1:54:23]: Um they had um uh police um [1:54:24, 1:54:27]: priorities and air cars, going and and doing reporting on it. [1:54:28, 1:54:32]: Um they use it to connect all of their building all their municipal buildings together. [1:54:32, 1:54:38]: to not pay as much for internet fees for every single site that they have. [1:54:38, 1:54:42]: Um and they've recently entered into a agreement with the school system [1:54:43, 1:54:52]: and another um provider to um hit all the schools as kind of a a joint coordinated effort. So to me [1:54:53, 1:54:54]: the issue over [1:54:55, 1:54:55]: Um [1:54:56, 1:54:59]: i i it's not a it's not a either or type decision. [1:55:00, 1:55:03]: Um you're likely gonna have some fiber [1:55:03, 1:55:05]: Here either connecting building to building [1:55:05, 1:55:06]: Or [1:55:07, 1:55:09]: In this case, connecting all of your [1:55:10, 1:55:11]: major municipal locations. [1:55:12, 1:55:16]: Um and all that does is give you an asset from which you can either [1:55:16, 1:55:20]: foreign partnerships, you can either rent or resell. [1:55:20, 1:55:30]: Internet services or other uh other services. To do that you would have to become a C LEC, um, which is a competitive local exchange carrier. [1:55:30, 1:55:45]: Um the city of Griffin actually I think became one in like nineteen ninety eight. But um they uh and they're actually selling internet to um uh several clients um out in the industrial park in Spaulding County. So [1:55:46, 1:55:50]: You know, in a big way it really just depends on if if [1:55:50, 1:55:53]: You know, you like the rent model versus the buy model and what [1:55:53, 1:55:54]: White arm. [1:55:54, 1:55:57]: Commissioner Alexander came up with in terms of [1:55:57, 1:56:01]: You know, the upgrade costs and all that kind of stuff i is definitely something to keep in mind. [1:56:02, 1:56:06]: Um but from a a threat standpoint or risk standpoint. [1:56:06, 1:56:10]: Um fibre's gonna be here for quite some time and the [1:56:10, 1:56:13]: the current single mode fiber that's that's in use [1:56:14, 1:56:18]: Um I'm not gonna be like Bill Gates and say that two megs is enough for everybody for all time. [1:56:19, 1:56:22]: But um for the next uh five to ten years. [1:56:23, 1:56:25]: Um you're likely not to [1:56:26, 1:56:28]: be able to um [1:56:29, 1:56:32]: you wouldn't be able to have enough subscribers on it. [1:56:32, 1:56:34]: to exceed its capacity. [1:56:35, 1:56:36]: at this point. [1:56:36, 1:56:37]: So [1:56:37, 1:56:40]: That's not to say it won't ever be outdated at all though. [1:56:40, 1:56:55]: Um do you want to go over the pros and cons? Are there any uh questions at this point? Yeah, because we've already jumped. So um no other questions? Okay. Um [1:56:56, 1:57:00]: You wanna go f you wanna go for it? I'll I'll I'll take you want me to do it? Okay. [1:57:02, 1:57:06]: And I want to thank you all too for giving us the time to to come in and and talk about [1:57:07, 1:57:08]: This we've um [1:57:08, 1:57:14]: We've been working with the city of Hateville um on something very, very similar at this point as well. [1:57:14, 1:57:30]: um to help power a public safety initiative they have have with license plate reader cameras and um and other cameras similar to what y'all have been doing with the internet safe zones and the [1:57:30, 1:57:40]: the other projects. So right. It's kind of an expanded version of what's being proposed at Brews Creek Trailhead. [1:57:40, 1:57:46]: And from the standpoint of where they are, there's a a company called um uh virtual [1:57:47, 1:57:50]: Patrol Citadel, I believe it's um they've got a [1:57:51, 1:57:52]: B citital, yeah, virtual citadel. [1:57:53, 1:58:02]: Um they have a data center just slightly west of Hateville, um, I believe in College Park and they've got a lot of fiber throughout Atlanta and [1:58:03, 1:58:09]: down closer to and and they will they are in the the business of providing [1:58:09, 1:58:12]: dark fiber or least line fiber to [1:58:12, 1:58:14]: municipalities and private businesses. [1:58:15, 1:58:19]: You know, it's really all they do. They don't really provide any services over these things. [1:58:19, 1:58:23]: ATT and Comcast, they're in the business of providing all these end user services. [1:58:23, 1:58:27]: They're not really in the business primarily of providing [1:58:27, 1:58:30]: um connectivity or these backbones. [1:58:30, 1:58:31]: So you know [1:58:32, 1:58:34]: Comcast will give you [1:58:34, 1:58:37]: fast internet and phone and T V for your house. [1:58:38, 1:58:40]: at an affordable price. A P and T [1:58:40, 1:58:41]: We'll do the same thing. [1:58:42, 1:58:44]: But when you go to start talking about you need [1:58:45, 1:58:48]: a gig or ten gig or whatever and you want to rent their fiber [1:58:48, 1:58:52]: That's not really the the business model that they're in. They'll do it. [1:58:52, 1:58:56]: But the economies of scale and the way that their business is [1:58:56, 1:59:01]: are um structured or not really tilted toward that from a [1:59:01, 1:59:04]: uh profit and loss and and statement. [1:59:04, 1:59:05]: standpoint. Um [1:59:06, 1:59:21]: So so that being said, um, you know, if you guys were to go with the city owned option, um obviously the the the biggest thing would be this would actually be an asset there for the city to use for all kinds of things. So you could use it for [1:59:22, 1:59:23]: For internal [1:59:24, 1:59:28]: connectivity so that um you know each site [1:59:28, 1:59:34]: would not have to have uh independent internet subscription to an ISP per month. [1:59:34, 1:59:52]: um telecommunications as well as um video conferencing type applications, any kind of communications could all run over it. Um and in addition to, um as I mentioned earlier, say for example the city of Griffin um is actually generating some revenue off of it. [1:59:53, 1:59:56]: And so it really just opens the door for future options. [1:59:57, 2:00:01]: to um leverage an asset versus [2:00:02, 2:00:07]: Uh ranting. Is it time to go? Turn lights up, good buddy. Very good. Okay. Let's go. [2:00:08, 2:00:09]: Okay. [2:00:09, 2:00:15]: Uh I usually get I usually get the what do they call the gap? Yeah, the cane get the caneful gas. [2:00:17, 2:00:17]: Um [2:00:18, 2:00:22]: As far as um maintenance costs and and ongoing costs [2:00:23, 2:00:26]: You do have some equipment that sits um [2:00:26, 2:00:29]: between the various nodes and sits in the building. [2:00:29, 2:00:33]: Those are the pieces that would need to be upgraded as technology. [2:00:33, 2:00:35]: Goes from one goes from [2:00:35, 2:00:38]: one mag to ten mag to hundred mag to [2:00:39, 2:00:41]: thousand meg, one gig to ten gig to [2:00:42, 2:00:44]: twenty gig to you know, higher. [2:00:44, 2:00:52]: um speeds. So the endpoint equipment would need to be upgraded over time. Those are typically about a five year refresh cycle. [2:00:53, 2:00:57]: But the actual fiber, the the stuff that's so expensive to put in the ground or put in the air [2:00:58, 2:00:59]: Um you know the [2:00:59, 2:01:02]: When when in talks with the CD um of Griffin. [2:01:03, 2:01:06]: um in the county actually using some of their fiber [2:01:06, 2:01:11]: Um one of the the examples given for [2:01:11, 2:01:14]: um the city charging the county to [2:01:14, 2:01:17]: Um rent, um beer fiber. [2:01:18, 2:01:38]: because the city was actually charging the county to rent their fiber, and they actually are now, and providing the county with um a network to run um both public safety nine one one as well as um core county functions off of um was that they were afraid or they they have had an incident of [2:01:38, 2:01:58]: of someone actually taking a shotgun and and shooting the cables out of the air. Now I don't think it was an act of someone trying to shoot fiber optic cables, but that's how obtuse they had to get with an example of, you know, y if they're strung up in the air and a tractor, trailer, truck comes by that's got a low too high, it's gonna [2:01:57, 2:02:00]: But from the standpoint of [2:02:00, 2:02:03]: You know, are did these things do you have to [2:02:03, 2:02:05]: You know, go out there and [2:02:06, 2:02:14]: change their oil or maintain them or anything like that. There's they you know, it's glass and and light, so it just generally works. [2:02:14, 2:02:34]: Um you typically can achieve you know as high speeds as the actual endpoint equipment and the cables can can achieve if you own it versus if you were to rent from ATT or Sprint or Comcast, you're paying for a ten meg connection or a hundred meg connection and that's [2:02:34, 2:02:36]: That's typically it. [2:02:36, 2:02:39]: Um so you're paying kinda on a per [2:02:40, 2:02:42]: per tiered V or per meg or per gig. [2:02:43, 2:02:54]: um type connection fee and you typically have to rent that equip the endpoint equipment as well, the customer premise equipment as well from those carriers, as well as providing your own. [2:02:54, 2:03:14]: Um so the other thing is you know what you actually can do with it. And if you own it you can put anything that you want to on it. Um you know we have some restrictions from say Comcast that um you know you can't resell their internet service so you know if you [2:03:14, 2:03:18]: You had a a Comcast um internet connection and you wanted to provide [2:03:19, 2:03:20]: free public Wi Fi. [2:03:20, 2:03:29]: Well, it's against the terms and conditions for you to be able to do that. So that's a type of traffic. It's actually a use of traffic that they're denying via the terms and conditions. [2:03:29, 2:03:34]: Um there's also some other just various um technical protocols that [2:03:35, 2:03:38]: the carriers just don't support things like multicast. [2:03:38, 2:03:42]: Which would be a way to broadcast a s a single video stream. [2:03:42, 2:03:44]: to a thousand homes. [2:03:45, 2:03:48]: Um if you had the equipment and if you guys were in the business of doing that. [2:03:48, 2:03:52]: Uh in all in most cases the carriers don't don't support things like that. [2:03:53, 2:03:57]: Um there's there's a lot of cons there though. Um it's not uh [2:03:58, 2:04:01]: as as the mayor was talking about a process and evolution [2:04:03, 2:04:08]: Yeah, there there's a lot of cons to it. There's costs. You c I'm s I'm sure Commissioner Al Alexander could [2:04:08, 2:04:20]: understand cost and time and planning. All of those things are are are things that you know, it just doesn't happen overnight. Um you have to employ an engineering study [2:04:20, 2:04:22]: To figure out who owns the polls. [2:04:22, 2:04:25]: How much do they charge for the tax fees? [2:04:25, 2:04:27]: You know, is the preliminary [2:04:28, 2:04:31]: um uh path that was um [2:04:31, 2:04:35]: selected, you know, how close to that can we actually get? [2:04:35, 2:04:37]: And are there some areas that just [2:04:38, 2:04:43]: um you know, you're not gonna be able to get to and or the the cost would be excessive to achieve. [2:04:44, 2:04:44]: Um [2:04:45, 2:04:46]: So [2:04:47, 2:04:48]: That's the same thing. [2:04:48, 2:04:49]: On the [2:04:49, 2:04:52]: The city owned. R so the the rent paying per month. [2:04:52, 2:04:55]: Pros load another on upfront cost. [2:04:55, 2:04:58]: Um typically they'll pay for most of the [2:04:58, 2:05:02]: built out for that last mile, typically, not always. [2:05:02, 2:05:15]: Um additionally, y you brought up a very good example in terms of as the technology changes, you may not be um responsible for, you know, keeping up with those things, but [2:05:15, 2:05:18]: I w I will give an example, say with Google Fiber. [2:05:19, 2:05:23]: with the whole one gig thing, right? And and Comcast came out with two gig as soon as [2:05:23, 2:05:25]: Google came out with one gig. [2:05:25, 2:05:28]: Um in most cases for a business you're [2:05:28, 2:05:31]: router, your firewall, the thing that connects you to the internet. [2:05:32, 2:05:34]: Um it won't even go that fast. [2:05:34, 2:05:38]: So, you know, you you'd have to in a lot of cases to go [2:05:38, 2:05:42]: as fast. As the technology changes, you still have to change with it. [2:05:42, 2:05:43]: And [2:05:44, 2:05:47]: So I I didn't really put that on here as a pro because [2:05:47, 2:05:50]: Um, you know, you're still responsible for cost of [2:05:51, 2:05:55]: Upgrading your own stuff as the technologies change. [2:05:55, 2:05:56]: Um [2:05:56, 2:06:00]: Installation time is still long. It's very complicated. [2:06:00, 2:06:03]: And dealing with, you know, five or six different vendors. [2:06:04, 2:06:10]: Because that's typically what you end up having to deal with. Um, you typically have speed limitations due to cost. [2:06:10, 2:06:15]: So instead of getting one gig connections, you may be be only getting a hundred meg connections? [2:06:16, 2:06:18]: Um and and that would be the difference between your [2:06:18, 2:06:38]: CD applications being able to run over this network and them not being able to run over this network. Just as an example that's been given to us, uh for example, if you're looking at surveillance cameras throughout the city, and if they all suddenly if they're streaming constantly and it's using up a lot of uh bandwidth at that you know that the provider may then throttle you back because you're using up all the bandwidth on on that. That's [2:06:38, 2:06:45]: That that's an you know actual issue that does occur. And and that so so yeah, Verizon Unlimited is actually [2:06:45, 2:06:50]: Yeah, on the sailor side is actually not limited. I think they s stop you after twenty two gigs and [2:06:50, 2:06:51]: And slow you down. So [2:06:52, 2:06:56]: Um you you can't necessarily resell access for public Wi Fi. [2:06:56, 2:07:00]: You may not be able to run certain protocols as I mentioned earlier. [2:07:00, 2:07:04]: Um contracts, managing said contracts. [2:07:04, 2:07:09]: And and and really the big thing to me again is just going back to that idea of rent versus own. [2:07:10, 2:07:11]: And you know [2:07:11, 2:07:14]: which way the CD wants to go in the long run. [2:07:15, 2:07:15]: So [2:07:17, 2:07:19]: there are some other things out there [2:07:20, 2:07:23]: hybrid solutions, working with other providers or municipalities. [2:07:24, 2:07:27]: I'm sure Henry County has has fibrin in the ground or in the air. [2:07:28, 2:07:32]: Um, you know, are there other smaller carriers in the area? [2:07:32, 2:07:35]: that might be willing to provide [2:07:35, 2:07:38]: um dark fiber at a reasonable cost. [2:07:38, 2:07:39]: Um [2:07:39, 2:07:43]: You know, and the the proposals that I've seen so far [2:07:43, 2:07:45]: from some of the carriers that have [2:07:46, 2:07:48]: um put things forward to the city. [2:07:48, 2:08:08]: It's not really much more than just a a standard, you know, internet connection um agreement with a an overlay over it. And they're not really providing any any sort of cost savings or or a ten X, a tenfold increase in speed. And that's really what we're talking about. [2:08:08, 2:08:10]: You actually needing [2:08:10, 2:08:14]: is if you wanted to put a hundred and thirty cameras over the CD [2:08:15, 2:08:25]: you know, you actually need something fast enough to be able to get that video back to um a single area for viewing or recording or [2:08:25, 2:08:32]: Um, you know, or if you're doing an event and you're gonna have a a thousand participants or [2:08:32, 2:08:36]: five thousand participants, you know, having enough internet bandwidth there. [2:08:36, 2:08:39]: to be able to to accommodate things like that. [2:08:40, 2:08:41]: Um [2:08:42, 2:08:50]: Uh a another thing that could be used to supplement I have a question. Yes. Yes. [2:08:52, 2:08:56]: Because with this you're getting really technical with uh [2:08:57, 2:09:04]: And we're trying to f w I I wish this would have done at a presentation with the council for information purposes only rather than the council meeting. [2:09:06, 2:09:11]: But I I'm trying to follow you on because even when you finish [2:09:11, 2:09:25]: You first of all talked about the capabilities of putting it in and you talked about the uh right aways and you talked about all of these things. So from that point to now, these are just probabilities. Is that correct? [2:09:26, 2:09:46]: Uh as far as as far as whether we rent to own or or how you're able to do anything because we we we first have to establish the right of ways how we're gonna run it and all that is technical stuff that I thought we was gonna have already knocked out or so to get yes sir. So to get to to get all those things you would need to employ an engineering firm that special [2:09:46, 2:09:53]: specializes in said activities to actually go out and pull records of who owns the [2:09:54, 2:09:56]: Uh my guess would be [2:09:57, 2:09:57]: Um [2:09:58, 2:10:00]: I learned uh somewhere around [2:10:00, 2:10:02]: Hundred and fifty to two hundred and fifty poles. [2:10:03, 2:10:23]: Um with all due respect, I understand that but so I thought that when we came when you all came here to present to us that someone would have a condensed version of what it would cost the council to approve for what we was gonna be getting. I didn't know it was gonna go through because it's getting to a point where it's it's getting so for me anyway, I don't know [2:10:23, 2:10:38]: It's getting really so technical that it should be given to whoever we assign to take this information and condense it for us in layman's term that we make a decision on which way we want to go with it. Rather than because when you finish [2:10:38, 2:10:45]: We're not gonna be anywhere fr no further than where we started off by right of ways and all this and what direction we're gonna go in. [2:10:45, 2:10:58]: Con the the the issue the reason why I asked them to come because at the last prior meeting there was a conversation in regards to the Fiber Project and so some of the conversation some of the comments that were made were, well which direction should we go in? [2:10:59, 2:11:19]: We've been having these conversations again I as Stephen mentioned this is a reiteration of what was presented during one of the retreats where we had this presentation initially to discuss this is the direction that we're proposing to move in and this is the reason why. When some of the other questions came up about going this route with us owning the fiber versus um soliciting some [2:11:19, 2:11:39]: of the other ISP and Internet service providers, ATT, Comcast and the others, and what the differences would be, we wanted you to first hear this was the rationale for why we felt this was the direction we should move in. Subsequent to this, we there will be other presentations from some of the other internet providers that the council may want to hear from because [2:11:39, 2:11:40]: Yeah. [2:11:40, 2:12:00]: Right now the question now becomes if the council may want to shift as far as is the t the big difference is as you noted, city owned versus using a a a a different internet service provider. So that's what's on the table at this point. So want to give the council an opportunity to hear both sides of this of the coin before you [2:12:00, 2:12:01]: You render a decision. [2:12:01, 2:12:09]: So that's what the purpose of this was. But but I'm s I understand that, but he's getting so technical that I thought we were gonna categorically look at [2:12:09, 2:12:11]: The options [2:12:11, 2:12:14]: and then from whoever we hire in these positions to [2:12:15, 2:12:35]: help facilitate these options and then come up with it. I didn't know it was gonna be this technical. We should have actually had some kind of presentation like this done outside of a council meeting. Well we did. We we did it we we have the presentation previously at the at the retreat. So what had been previously presented. So again this until we make a determination on which direction we're going to go [2:12:35, 2:12:35]: Yeah. [2:12:36, 2:12:53]: you know, again and we and we we kinda we did s I think they asked them to kinda scale it back to just kind of give the pros and cons and and try to you know as much as possible. This would be the pros and city owned versus a um using a a contracted internet service provider. Um so but if there's [2:12:54, 2:13:14]: If we can wanna if we can I'm sure we can get together and get a summary of some of these key points that speaks to this and then as you hear from some of the other internet service providers to be maybe able to make a determination as a council on which direction do we want to pursue. This is the direction that you know we've had these conversations previously and I've had conversations with other some of my other peers that I think is in the best [2:13:14, 2:13:23]: Of the city. But again, the council obviously has to feel comfortable with the decision that gets made because it is such a big investment. But but ultimately it's going to come down to numbers. [2:13:23, 2:13:43]: And and right now tonight we we're we're getting we we're not gonna get to obviously you guys aren't gonna get to numbers because there are too many probabilities. Do we have some estimates that we could share? The original budgetary estimate which was based on work we've done with another municipality was looking anywhere from three hundred fifty to five hundred fifty. [2:13:43, 2:13:45]: Yeah, I suppose we would recommend on that, at least if it [2:13:46, 2:13:48]: This loop that you had seen previously. [2:13:48, 2:14:08]: That's w uh what we were looking at. That was kind of accommodating for fifty K probably for the engineering, then the other three hundred K again an estimate because we don't know if we're gonna be attaching to poles, going underground, some mix thereof. And that was derived from averages from what firms have provided for another is probably given some sort of ballpark. [2:14:08, 2:14:19]: work from on a budgetary point. But it it it can range from three fifty to five hundred at this point from what we've seen based on the two forty one miles. And and and to figure out how much is gonna cost would [2:14:20, 2:14:23]: The influential engineering firm to do the study. [2:14:23, 2:14:25]: and actually do the design. So [2:14:26, 2:14:36]: You know, really uh y you started I think to say, you know, what what are we gonna what are we gonna use this for? What are the purposes? Why why should we do this? Um I think there should be a clear [2:14:36, 2:14:39]: understanding and and agreement on on [2:14:39, 2:14:41]: you know, why why would we even want to do this at all? [2:14:42, 2:14:43]: And then um [2:14:43, 2:14:46]: Try to to take it down to the level as [2:14:46, 2:14:48]: Best as I possibly could. [2:14:48, 2:14:50]: But when you're speaking geek [2:14:50, 2:15:09]: It kinda comes out like Greek sometimes, so uh apologies there. And and and I did since like I said at the beginning, he's definitely smarter than I am. So for for my own purposes when I put together the presentation, I did try to put a less technical version together so you can see more simply the pros and cons, at least so that I can understand uh when he's explaining to me, I was trying to take his [2:15:09, 2:15:29]: geek speak and put it into something that you know we all the rest of us can understand. I just don't want you guys to get to the end and we'll prolong it and I'm and I'm my question is does the plane fly or not? So I mean you get you I wasn't at the retreat uh I I guess I wasn't at that retreat when when you had the presentation, but I think this should be the uh uh presented to the council at another [2:15:29, 2:15:30]: [8131.6, 8135.4]: So c because I get real technical with it and and for the sake of [2:15:35, 2:15:39]: uh time and and and the uh citizens here tonight. I think we should [2:15:40, 2:15:40]: We need to [2:15:41, 2:15:42]: Figure out a way to [2:15:42, 2:15:44]: You know, put this with the uh [2:15:44, 2:15:49]: bring this to the the council and you can get as technical as you want to get. [2:15:51, 2:16:05]: But I mean I I think probably the the biggest bottom line is is you know um is is trying to figure out you know do you want to have more upfront cost but still own the the technology or do you want to have the ongoing cost and because even if you're going with someone else uh you know if you're if you're [2:16:06, 2:16:11]: Leasing it or running it's gonna be a perpetual cost for you and that's w probably the biggest con that you know should be a highlight. [2:16:11, 2:16:15]: cities and and other municipalities that I've worked with in the past. [2:16:15, 2:16:18]: Um from just doing a single [2:16:18, 2:16:22]: might build in the building to doing something of this scale as well as bigger. [2:16:22, 2:16:25]: Um in most cases it's been a break even point. [2:16:25, 2:16:27]: of rent versus buy. [2:16:28, 2:16:31]: um somewhere between a five and ten year term. [2:16:31, 2:16:43]: So when you're looking at a a equipment that's endpoint equipment that needs to be refreshed every five to seven years, um if the study comes back and the costs are down around the three fifty standpoint [2:16:44, 2:16:49]: You know, you're sitting in a really good situation where um the payback on it would be [2:16:50, 2:16:53]: Um you would actually be saving money versus the renting model. [2:16:54, 2:16:55]: But until a study's actually done. [2:16:55, 2:16:58]: or decision to even pursue this route. [2:16:58, 2:16:59]: is actually made. [2:17:00, 2:17:15]: You know, we we're kinda limited in terms of what we can do and and and so so is Michael I believe. So um I I think that was where we're we were instructed to try try to break it down as best we could and we'd be happy to take any other questions or [2:17:15, 2:17:18]: And I'll address at a later date. [2:17:18, 2:17:20]: Councilman Ford has a question. [2:17:21, 2:17:21]: B [2:17:21, 2:17:25]: Maybe maybe you said and I'm missing. At the bottom here he said [2:17:25, 2:17:36]: Remember an ISP still is required to feed the fiber. So what's the ISP? So I an ISP is an internet service provider. They're they're your Comcast, your AT and T, your EarthLink, your [2:17:36, 2:17:39]: You know, all of those different carriers, um [2:17:40, 2:17:56]: Um so to get to get on the internet, to get out to the world, right, um, you still have to have some sort of head in, some sort of feed to to go into your own private network. Otherwise you're an island unto yourself. [2:17:57, 2:17:59]: You'd be able to do local functions. [2:17:59, 2:18:01]: So you'd be able to access um [2:18:01, 2:18:06]: you know, your your city municipal management software from this location to another. [2:18:06, 2:18:09]: But maybe you wouldn't be able you wouldn't be able to [2:18:10, 2:18:12]: decrease internet costs by centralizing [2:18:13, 2:18:22]: it into a single location and just getting a very fast, high speed, redundant connection in one spot versus paying for it ten X. [2:18:23, 2:18:42]: Point. Um okay go ahead, Councilman Alexander. I think you know, really uh what we're talking about here is I was doing this because it was going over everybody's head. The the deer in the headlock look is kind of what we everybody was getting at that point. What I'm uh th I think what uh in our debate [2:18:43, 2:18:46]: Some money has to be spent and that is what [2:18:46, 2:19:06]: I was trying to uh uh uh let the council know in the debate that we had had previously. Uh setting the money aside does not make the choice. It only m brings the information necessary so we can make the choice. So in making the budget amendment that I had that I've been pushing for uh [2:19:06, 2:19:26]: uh it allows the engineering to be done. No decision will be made until that engineering is done to how to spend the money. It's just that you have the money set aside in order to move the process forward. Is that what we're saying? That's pretty much what we're saying here in layman's term, right? [2:19:26, 2:19:46]: Councilman Alexander, exactly. There w when we were talking with some firms uh who were looking at uh doing work in another municipality, a couple of them said, I can't even give you a quote, I can't give you an estimate until we do this study. You know, some of the firms, you know, would at least map it out like what what I did and say, Okay, this is what a reasonable guess is based on our experience. And then there are other firms that just said, Hey, you know [2:19:46, 2:19:53]: Until we have a a definitive study, knowing which poles are going to, where it's going to go above ground, where it's going to go underground, we can't even tell you a cost. [2:19:53, 2:20:09]: I have a question. One thing I heard you say that just kinda stood out to me was you have to know what you want, how you're gonna spend the money. Um would that be a wise decision for us to um figure out [2:20:09, 2:20:28]: Why do we want it? What are we going to use it for? And and just make us a list of what we're going to do and then that would help whoever's going to do the study because otherwise they're doing a study and they really don't know what we want it to do with it. [2:20:28, 2:20:48]: Is there is there a checklist anywhere of everything that fiber optic would do for us if we had it that we could go down and say, Yes, we want to use it for items one and seven and ten but not all the other numbers? I think most of us are not familiar enough with [2:20:48, 2:21:02]: the terminologies to really know its capabilities. So that's what I'm hearing you say that we've got uh it's kinda like in Katrina when New Orleans needed a lot of help but they couldn't make a list. [2:21:03, 2:21:16]: We need to make our list but we don't know what to choose from to put on the list. Excuse me if I could speak to that for a second in kind of in layman's terms, like I said, I think I it what what really is is that [2:21:16, 2:21:35]: We could have a list with a thousand things on it. But the engineering is gonna tell you what you can afford. So there's no need in making a list for a hundred items when we don't uh need those items, right? Yeah, let me clarify and kind of separate the mayor's question there because the the study really [2:21:36, 2:21:39]: Fiber will do anything that Fiber will do and it really depends on [2:21:39, 2:21:42]: If you have people willing to pay for those services and [2:21:42, 2:21:45]: you're willing to to provide those services. So it's [2:21:46, 2:21:51]: It's plumbing, if you will. It's like any other infrastructure. It's just like any other inf infrastructure that [2:21:51, 2:21:52]: So [2:21:53, 2:21:55]: You know, the the step [2:21:56, 2:22:15]: The list of um city priorities for things that the fiber could be used for now is something that I'm sure we could come up with very, very quickly. The amount of money that the city is spending on those services with other vendors, um internet service providers, etcetera. [2:22:15, 2:22:23]: Um would be something that would be, you know, again pretty easy to come up with to put a price tag on what you guys are spending per month now. [2:22:24, 2:22:26]: Um what the question mark is is [2:22:26, 2:22:27]: Um [2:22:27, 2:22:32]: you know, once the study is done and you guys come back and and and it comes back with a [2:22:33, 2:22:36]: you know, a number of what this would, you know, cost to do [2:22:36, 2:22:40]: Um that's what you would need to weigh that against to make a make a proper decision. [2:22:41, 2:22:43]: And frankly, nobody here is [2:22:43, 2:22:45]: At that point yet, because [2:22:45, 2:22:46]: We haven't [2:22:47, 2:22:48]: You guys haven't decided on [2:22:49, 2:22:50]: Whether or not you even want to [2:22:50, 2:22:53]: properly pursue this path with the next point in it. [2:22:54, 2:22:58]: would be to fund a study and it would be to put out an RFP [2:22:59, 2:23:13]: um for a study to be done to match the um match or closely match the um fiber loop that was I believe um um constructed at the [2:23:13, 2:23:20]: But th this is I mean the uh th there are some level of priorities that have been set. I mean when at the last uh council retreat you know back in August [2:23:21, 2:23:25]: It was specifically said we want to focus on the downtown and correct me council members please if I'm wrong or misunderstood. [2:23:26, 2:23:46]: But we do want to focus on the downtown so it can be prioritized for economic development purposes. And then focus on getting the municipal buildings, you know, so that you have your municipal services all connected. So that's a s essentially where the fiber loop that's been proposed has come from is from those specific comments that the the council had made at that time. Now what you want to use [2:23:46, 2:24:06]: use it for specifically for economic development. I mean that could be anything from offering free Wi Fi to the businesses or to offering some sort of teleconference services into the businesses. Those options can become much more endless once you know y you really get that nailed down, which you want to be offering on that network. But at least we know it is for economic development for downtown and for [2:24:06, 2:24:07]: municipal services. [2:24:08, 2:24:12]: All right. Any other comments from the city manager? [2:24:12, 2:24:13]: Okay? [2:24:13, 2:24:25]: Thank you so much for your presentation. That's okay. We we were just not quite as smart as you were. We were struggling to stay in the game. [2:24:25, 2:24:27]: Thank you so much. [2:24:27, 2:24:30]: Uh the next thing that we're gonna bring up [2:24:30, 2:24:36]: uh tonight is item number ten and that's gonna be presented by our city attorney. [2:24:36, 2:24:41]: Mike Williams and it's a request for amendment of the city zoning code. [2:24:41, 2:24:46]: in regards to brick facade requirements to be applied throughout the city. [2:24:51, 2:24:55]: Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um you have in your uh [2:24:55, 2:24:59]: agenda book the version of a facade uh [2:25:00, 2:25:03]: requirement that was presented to your zoning advisory board. [2:25:04, 2:25:23]: The board met last Thursday um and reviewed this and if I could just make uh an editorial comment that that the council did a good job in picking its ZAB because we had a really good conversation, um some in depth questions and you know they're truly engaged in this process and I think they're gonna give you a good result. Um [2:25:24, 2:25:44]: But this version um that was uh presented to them, what was discussed in detail, the the differences between this version and what you all saw at the last meeting w are as follows. First, this would only apply to commercial buildings. Um the last version said industrial and commercial. Um additional [2:25:44, 2:25:51]: uh this does not apply to hotels. Hotels would have greater flexibility in in doing their design. [2:25:52, 2:25:55]: Um we put in a uh a [2:25:55, 2:26:00]: vinyl standard that the vinyl has to have a a thickness of at least zero [2:26:00, 2:26:06]: point zero four six inches and this is only for the trim and soffits use of those sorts of things. [2:26:07, 2:26:10]: Um we also put a a metal uh [2:26:10, 2:26:17]: uh standard for if they are to use metal roofs, they're not required to, but if they do they have to use at least twenty nine gauge [2:26:17, 2:26:18]: Standing scene metal. [2:26:19, 2:26:19]: Um [2:26:20, 2:26:25]: And then finally, uh, we put in a brick standard. Um the mayor had [2:26:25, 2:26:30]: mentioned this um at at one point is is there a standard for bricks that we should [2:26:30, 2:26:33]: um consider and we researched the the matter and [2:26:34, 2:26:35]: Is it? [2:26:35, 2:26:43]: I learned that there are three classes of bricks. There's first class brick, second class brick and third class brick. And the first class brick is a standard [2:26:44, 2:27:04]: um that uh is the most durable type of brick. Um for I won't get technical because I probably can't get too technical on that front, but but that's the most durable brick. And so those are the changes to what was presented to this council at the last meeting and that was what was presented to the Z A B on Thursday. [2:27:03, 2:27:06]: The ZAB considered this and [2:27:06, 2:27:12]: um will be recommending two additional changes to what you see here. [2:27:12, 2:27:18]: The first is they did not want to recommend a stucco as one of the allowable [2:27:18, 2:27:23]: uh uses for the the facade of the building. So they remove stucco as an option. [2:27:24, 2:27:28]: Um and then the second um they express concerns [2:27:29, 2:27:34]: about the cost um that uh a complete brick requirement [2:27:34, 2:27:41]: uh would impose on uh uh businesses and whether that would be a detriment for [2:27:41, 2:27:42]: Um [2:27:42, 2:27:45]: uh businesses or make it harder for businesses to come into Stockbridge. [2:27:46, 2:27:50]: So what they did was uh they came up with sort of a a middle ground [2:27:51, 2:27:53]: provision on the brick and what they [2:27:54, 2:27:54]: So [2:27:55, 2:27:59]: the current uh requirement says that you have to have um brick [2:27:59, 2:28:04]: uh on all the uh portions of the buildings uh that face public streets. [2:28:04, 2:28:12]: And then what was proposed is you have to have three sides brick, but then you the facade could be half brick and half something else to make it more decorative. [2:28:12, 2:28:16]: What the ZAB wanted to recommend is [2:28:16, 2:28:20]: a a middle ground that says any portion of the building [2:28:20, 2:28:22]: that's visible from the public should be brick. [2:28:22, 2:28:24]: And then the facade can be a combination. [2:28:25, 2:28:42]: um of brick and some other decorative um piece. So some buildings would all have to if it's visible, for instance, most of the buildings um that front on one thirty eight uh would uh you know all the sides are visible so those would have to be [2:28:43, 2:28:59]: wrapped in brick except for the facade. But then there are other buildings that may front on a public street, but then the rear and one side isn't visible for whatever reason the way the the building is situated. So only the the parts that are visible would have to be wrapped in brick or the facade. [2:28:59, 2:29:00]: So that's [2:29:00, 2:29:06]: change will be coming forward to you at the uh next uh council meeting. As you recall [2:29:06, 2:29:11]: this uh matter the the public hearing was recessed until the march thirteenth meeting. [2:29:12, 2:29:14]: So this was just more of an update and [2:29:14, 2:29:17]: I should turn around because I failed to [2:29:17, 2:29:20]: acknowledge Bill Johnson, who's also here. [2:29:20, 2:29:21]: Um to [2:29:21, 2:29:22]: Uh [2:29:22, 2:29:26]: answer any questions you may have. So I'm sorry, Bill. You can come up if you have any questions. [2:29:27, 2:29:28]: But that's the presentation. [2:29:33, 2:29:35]: And if there are no questions, we'll we're happy to sit down and [2:29:36, 2:29:37]: We'll be back in two weeks. [2:29:38, 2:29:43]: So this is gonna move over to the agenda for the council meeting. Okay, thank you. [2:29:44, 2:29:44]: All right. [2:29:48, 2:29:49]: Bill, do you have any comments? [2:29:50, 2:29:57]: Mr Williams, uh Madam Mayor has covered it very well. I thought I'd have something to add, but he covered all the bases. We did have a good discussion. [2:29:57, 2:29:59]: I think it was particularly important to realise that [2:30:00, 2:30:02]: The saws that can't be viewed from a public [2:30:02, 2:30:15]: uh street or even private. We talked about the uh Golden Corral development and those aren't public streets but they're streets that the public accesses. So those those would have to be the uh [2:30:15, 2:30:16]: Brick facade. [2:30:17, 2:30:20]: Um but I think that was an important distinction because costs being what they are. [2:30:23, 2:30:26]: Anyone have any questions before we move on? [2:30:26, 2:30:28]: Thank you so much. [2:30:30, 2:30:35]: Okay, at this time I'm gonna ask if we have any comments from our city manager. [2:30:35, 2:30:55]: Yes, Madam Mayor, I do. I got a couple of comments. I'll try to be as quick as I can to get through'em. Um first is just a couple of quick updates. I did want to make sure the public is aware that our paving through our local maintenance improvement grant um program that began today. Um did a patch on Rock Roy Road, actually started [2:30:55, 2:31:15]: Some of the um streets in the Tide Street area have already been paved. Um so that's moving forward now, so people will start seeing more and more activity in the paving. Also, Mays Road, the culvert replacement, it's been talked about for a while. I've got a number of phone calls about it. They should be mobilizing that contract's been awarded by the council, um, contracts been finalized and they'll be mobilizing next week to begin that work. [2:31:15, 2:31:27]: work which will replace the culvert there and subsequently open up Maze Road. We've got a number of phone calls about it. Um I did also want to bring to everyone's attention if you notice on the scrolling on the on our [2:31:28, 2:31:48]: screen. We've incorporated the vision, mission, and value statements throughout the and over time we're gonna have a uh an approach of um posters, placards and other things that's gonna be showing up around City Hall, um emphasizing this vision, mission, and value statement. So we're pleased about that as well. One other thing I did want [2:31:48, 2:31:52]: wanna bring up in regards to a there's a grant that our [2:31:53, 2:31:54]: Main Street [2:31:54, 2:32:08]: Director Ms. Kerry Harris Bragg has been working on. It's the Georgia Renaissance Partnership. It's a collaboration between the Georgia Municipal Association and the Georgia Cities Foundation and the Carl Vinson Institute. Um it's a partnership that's been created [2:32:09, 2:32:20]: They created a program in an effort to focus their resources and expertise on selected downtowns across the state, the Renaissance Strategic Visioning Planning Program, R S V P acronym. [2:32:21, 2:32:41]: Every year they put it out and t only two cities typically are chosen every year. Um typically the costs range from anywhere from forty five to sixty five thousand dollars. And again the the intent is to go through and do a um under the program select cities receive technical assistance for creating clear, concise, strategic downtown visions and plans that benefit [2:32:41, 2:32:50]: benefit local government leaders, downtown development authorities, chambers, downtown merchants, property owners, and lending this institutions and citizens. Um [2:32:52, 2:33:12]: The process takes anywhere from six to nine months and you kinda go through the whole thing and what they offer is up to up to nine thousand dollars in funding to help supplement and offset some of the other costs. So our hope was and our intent is to go ahead and move forward with um applying for this grant and to perhaps use some of the funds from [2:33:12, 2:33:32]: property sales, you know, should we be awarded using some of those um sales from property sales um to help offset those costs. Um end product would be a downtown master plan that would be incorporated into our overall comprehensive plan. So that was the intent of staff to move forward with that. Just wanted to make sure the council was aware [2:33:32, 2:33:52]: And once we get to that point, once we're selected um and we're notified that we have one, um speaking optimistically, um then we would come back and come back to the council on identifying the funding source, which we again we'd like to utilize from uh proceeds from property sales. So just one again, that's more so just to make the council aware. And [2:33:52, 2:34:02]: And lastly, um I did want to extend the congratulations to uh Mr. Mike Ireland, who's here at our back. He was recently promoted to the rank of captain with the Henry County Police Department. [2:34:08, 2:34:10]: Madame May, that's all I have. [2:34:10, 2:34:16]: Okay. Um at this time I'll start with Mr. Alexander if anybody has any closing comments. [2:34:17, 2:34:37]: Uh uh yes, I do. I'd just like to thank everybody for coming out and your support of the city of Stockbridge. Um I just want to let you everybody know that um I'm dedicated to keeping our city together and fighting every day to make sure that we do not lose this uh lose this battle. And I take it very personal [2:34:37, 2:34:50]: Because uh my neighborhood was actually included into the new city without uh the appropri approval or even asking us whether we wanted to be involved or not. That's wrong. We'll fight this. [2:34:52, 2:34:53]: Councilman Blount. [2:34:55, 2:35:02]: Yes, I concur with the uh statements just made because uh my neighborhood also is included in the uh mapping for uh [2:35:03, 2:35:06]: uh to start a new city of uh Eagles Lightning. [2:35:07, 2:35:08]: And um [2:35:10, 2:35:23]: We're all on board to fight this together. And I just wanna make this quick statement that I I'm you know, I I kid when I kid and I'm I'm serious when I'm serious. And if I've ever said anything on this [2:35:23, 2:35:43]: in this dias that offended any of my colleagues. I know I made a statement earlier but it was an in offensive. It was only kidding with uh Mr. Alexander so I just want to let you all know that we've agreed on a a lot up here. When we raise our hand we're in agreement. So um we're all working together to move this city forward. And I just thank uh my colleagues and the mayor that we're fighting to [2:35:43, 2:35:47]: keep Stockbridge what Stockbridge is and that's a beautiful city to live in. [2:35:48, 2:36:08]: Mayor Partiam. Yeah, thank you, Mayor. I want to tell the citizens keep the faith. Uh we're going to move the city forward. I'm glad to see that what the council and mayor are unanimous in the sense of to uh the fact that we oppose the city of of Eagles Landing and that uh we're gonna do all we can to make sure that we keep uh Stockbridge intact and that we [2:36:08, 2:36:25]: we're gonna do the proper annexation to take those in unaccorporate areas of Stockbridge and bring it into the city and and that way the city will grow and then we'll have a bigger base in the sense to uh tax base in a sense to uh build and grow. And so keep the faith to'cause we're gonna make it work. Thank you all. [2:36:25, 2:36:27]: Councilwoman Gantt. [2:36:29, 2:36:35]: Thank you for coming out and I look forward to um being with you guys and activities in the future. [2:36:40, 2:36:56]: Yeah, some woman Robins. Thank you, Mayor. Um, thanks to staff for coming you know, being so patient tonight and also for our presenters, thank you so very much. And again, congratulations on your um promotion. [2:36:56, 2:37:02]: We definitely wish you well with that and um again, good evening to everyone and and [2:37:02, 2:37:05]: Just know that we're fighting for stockbridge. [2:37:07, 2:37:27]: Thank you. Um I too am grateful for you coming and I want to remind you if you have an agenda to please note all of the official city meetings that are listed on it and also notice that there are council member community meetings listed on it along with their initiative. [2:37:26, 2:37:46]: initiatives and um to keep in mind the civic event for paint henry blue that will be on march thirtieth. So remember all those. I need to ask our um attorney if we have an executive session. Yes ma'am we'd like to have a motion to go into executive session uh to cover [2:37:46, 2:37:50]: for uh for real estate litigation and personnel matters. [2:37:50, 2:37:55]: Okay. Um I need a motion at this time to go into executive session. [2:37:56, 2:38:03]: Madam Mayor, I move that we go into executive session on the per for the purpose of real estate, litigation and personnel matters. Second. [2:38:04, 2:38:05]: Is there any discussion? [2:38:07, 2:38:08]: If not, all in favor. [2:38:09, 2:38:13]: Thank you. Those in the audience who wish to wait, we'll be back. [2:38:16, 2:38:25]: We we back in our routine. We what [2:39:10, 2:39:10]: Yeah. [2:39:13, 2:39:15]: Thanks for [2:39:16, 2:39:26]: Yeah. Thank you. [2:39:34, 2:39:35]: Yeah. [2:39:37, 2:39:40]: Well, the county just clicked on us. [2:39:41, 2:39:45]: They removed their Eagles landing discussion from the agenda. [2:39:45, 2:39:48]: [9588.7, 9601.9]: They removed it from the But now. But Julie, Bardo, Wilson. [2:40:02, 2:40:03]: Yeah, yeah. [2:40:04, 2:40:05]: Voted to remove it. [2:40:08, 2:40:20]: Yeah, now you know. He was lying, now you know, right? [2:40:21, 2:40:29]: Oh, she just found me. She don't want to take a formation at the meeting, you just don't want to take a position. [2:40:35, 2:40:55]: Uh March seventh, I think. It's on a Tuesday, the first next Tuesday. No, can I keep mine? Yeah. Okay, but [2:40:55, 2:40:56]: Okay.

--- title: February 13 2017 City Council Meeting date: 2017-02-13 source: 2017-02-13_February_13_2017_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:13, 0:00:18]: Yeah. [0:00:30, 0:00:38]: And then [0:00:39, 0:00:40]: Oh wait no. [0:00:56, 0:01:02]: [ 81.0, 100.6]: Yeah. No. So it's not. [0:02:21, 0:02:28]: Okay. At this time we'll call the meeting of the Stockbridge City Council to order this evening. Um [0:02:30, 0:02:45]: I don't see Pastor Murel in the audience. Oh here he is back here in the back. He's hiding from me. Um if you would Pastor Murel come up, he is from the Stockbridge First Baptist Church and we appreciate him coming tonight to give us our invitation. Thank you. [0:02:48, 0:02:49]: Thank you so much. Let's pray. [0:02:50, 0:02:59]: Our Heavenly Father, we call on the name of the Lord our God tonight with thanksgiving for another day. For the wonderful gift of life, we thank the Lord. We bless you tonight. [0:03:00, 0:03:03]: For these who serve Lord, we thank you for the mayor, the council. [0:03:04, 0:03:21]: And for those who are citizens in this s uh very place, Lord, that we love called Stockbridge, we're thankful for each home and family. Thank you for those who work, Lord, as employees of the city. We pray your blessing upon them. Lord, we ask for wisdom and discernment in every deliberation tonight. [0:03:21, 0:03:41]: That you would be pleased to unite us as a people, Lord, and yet we could also celebrate our diversity, even in the meeting and in the business, but seek the mind and and the will of the Lord that would please you, Lord, in this place. We thank you for those who've come. We pray, Lord, that you will bless those who protect us and first responders and [0:03:41, 0:03:43]: Police and fire. [0:03:43, 0:03:45]: We're grateful for each one of them. [0:03:45, 0:03:51]: And Lord, we pray that we would be united as one nation truly under God. Even in this meeting tonight. [0:03:51, 0:03:58]: And then have a sense of the presence of the Lord leading and giving discernment and wisdom in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. [0:03:58, 0:03:59]: Thank you so much. [0:04:00, 0:04:19]: At this time, if you all would stand, we'll pledge the flag to the United States of America. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States and nation under God with liberty and justice. [0:04:24, 0:04:27]: At this time we'll ask our clerk for the roll call. [0:04:28, 0:04:29]: Councilman Alexander. [0:04:30, 0:04:32]: Present. Councilman Blind. [0:04:32, 0:04:41]: Present. Mayor Neal. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Councilwoman Robinson. Present. Mayor Neal, you have a quorum. [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: Thank you. [0:04:43, 0:04:47]: At this time uh I would like for a motion to adopt our evening agenda. [0:04:49, 0:04:50]: Man. [0:04:52, 0:04:54]: I move that we adopt the agenda. [0:04:55, 0:04:55]: Second. [0:04:56, 0:05:03]: We have a motion by Councilman Gantt with a second by Councilman Alexander. [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: All in favour? [0:05:06, 0:05:07]: All in favour? [0:05:08, 0:05:24]: the motion for the agenda. All right. Thank you so much. We'll move on. The next order of business real quick, um we're gonna uh adopt our minutes from pre several previous meetings. That would be from um december twelfth, twenty sixteen. [0:05:25, 0:05:37]: December fourteenth, twenty sixteen, december sixteenth, twenty sixteen, and twelve twenty seven, six twenty sixteen. Do I hear a motion to accept those minutes? So moved. [0:05:37, 0:05:38]: A second? [0:05:38, 0:05:39]: Second. [0:05:40, 0:05:48]: We have a motion by uh Pro Tem Ford and a second by Councilman Alexander. Uh all in favor? [0:05:50, 0:05:52]: Okay, thank you very much. [0:05:52, 0:05:59]: Uh at this point I'm gonna pause just for a minute and uh off our regular agenda to do two things. [0:05:59, 0:06:03]: One is that I want to ask uh Karina Patel [0:06:04, 0:06:06]: If she would stand in our audience [0:06:06, 0:06:25]: Uh co Karina, uh we made a lot of photographs before the um meeting started tonight. Co Karina has uh been awarded a scholarship to the US Naval Academy by her congressman and I want all of us to stand up and give her [0:06:36, 0:06:51]: Not only is Karina here herself, but her um adoring parents are here tonight also, and we want to thank the uh Patels for um what a beautiful family you have been living in America and our community. Thank you so much. [0:06:51, 0:07:11]: At this time I would also like to recognize the fact that this is Black History Month and uh before you all arrived we had um a Black History Um Month presentation and also a recognition of our county commissioner from the Fifth District, Bruce Holmes. We'd like to ask him to stand and all of you if [0:07:11, 0:07:13]: You would stand and give them a little bit. [0:07:22, 0:07:32]: If you've ever been to Fairview, you can see that big footprint of uh Commissioner Holmes up in Fairview. He's done a lot of wonderful things for our county and we thank you for that. [0:07:32, 0:07:48]: All right, at this time we're going to move along with our meeting. And the next thing on our uh agenda tonight is an organizational appointment. And that simply means that uh our pro tem who served last year, Anthony Ford, [0:07:48, 0:08:02]: uh is being reappointed by his peers to serve um that the pro tem uh fills in from the m for the mayor when the ma whenever the mayor is not here. So I would like a motion for that um [0:08:03, 0:08:05]: Uh appointment. [0:08:07, 0:08:13]: Okay. We have a motion by Councilman F um Alexander. Do I hear a second? Second. [0:08:13, 0:08:15]: Is there any discussion on that? [0:08:15, 0:08:17]: We all set? All right. All in favor. [0:08:19, 0:08:23]: Well it looks like unanimous you are. [0:08:28, 0:08:35]: All right, yes. All right, thank you. [0:08:36, 0:08:56]: At this time we will be uh listening to some public comments if we have those. If if every I wanna make a point to let everybody in the audience know if you ever come to City Council and you want to speak, you certainly have that opportunity to do so. We ask that you pick up a yellow sheet. [0:08:56, 0:09:12]: out in the um uh entryway and fill it out and turn it in to the clerk just before the meeting begins and that way you will assure that you get to come up to the podium and present remarks. Do we have any of those uh tonight? [0:09:14, 0:09:20]: We do. Mayor Neal, I need to uh do m I do need to make one note to Ms. Janet Buckler. [0:09:21, 0:09:31]: You have filled out a public comment form regarding an item on the agenda that's a public hearing item, you'll be able to speak at that point. Okay. [0:09:32, 0:09:32]: Okay. [0:09:32, 0:09:35]: The next one is Ms. Mildred Reid. [0:09:36, 0:09:36]: Okay. [0:09:37, 0:09:38]: We ask it myself. [0:09:39, 0:09:40]: Mildred Reed is a [0:09:40, 0:09:43]: Good volunteer in our community come forward. [0:09:45, 0:09:53]: Again, my name is Mildred Reed, five thirty Creek View Overlook. Before I get started, I wanna pass out to the council members. [0:09:59, 0:10:16]: This presentation is specifically addressed today to the mayor and city council members, but also I would ask the individuals in the audience to please take note because you will be involved. We're asking for you to. We're asking the council for financial support. [0:10:17, 0:10:25]: As you're probably aware, Henry County includes the city of Stockbridge and has a very large population of senior adults. [0:10:25, 0:10:44]: is a valued population and it is vital that we as a community work together to see that there our daily needs continue to be met. Many of our senior adults are homebound with little or no contact with others and many may suffer from poor nutritional health. [0:10:45, 0:11:02]: Henry County Senior Services, in conjunction with the Henry County Council on Aging, our director is here, Mildred Smeltz, the chair of the Council on Aging, is able to reach out and provide hot meals through the Meals on Wheels, as well as nutritional supplements and home health care. [0:11:03, 0:11:10]: Unfortunately, due to budgetary restraints, we sometimes have to place our seniors on a waiting list. [0:11:10, 0:11:19]: Uh we are asking for the city council if if you could become a sponsor of this annual miles for meal walk. [0:11:19, 0:11:36]: By I have a recommended amount that I would like to see you all look at on your chart, which is the silver sponsor. Hopefully you'll be able to do that. And this walk will be held on Saturday. It's an annual event every first Saturday in May. [0:11:36, 0:11:39]: This set this year it will be May sixth. [0:11:39, 0:11:59]: Uh and the sponsorship form is attached so that you all can decide and vote if we want to if the city of Stockwritch wants to do this. As far as the other members of the council, I mean citizens are concerned, we will ask the citizen support by walking for miles for meals, and also you will see information. [0:11:59, 0:12:05]: information coming out in the near future with applications and sponsorship. [0:12:05, 0:12:07]: That we would like for every citizen [0:12:07, 0:12:23]: and stock with with every citizen in Henry County to be involved. Thank you very much. Thank you. Uh I would assume that we will take this up in our work session meeting which comes up in a couple of weeks for discussion. So thank you so much, Mildred. [0:12:24, 0:12:28]: Are there others? There are no further comments. Okay. [0:12:28, 0:12:33]: All right, at this time um we have some presentations. One is [0:12:34, 0:12:54]: Uh twenty seventeen Paint Henry Blue and this is raising awareness for the prevention of child abuse. It's the kickoff month in Stockbridge on March thirtieth and they are requesting the use of the Merrill Manders Conference Center for that event and this will be presented by [0:12:54, 0:13:06]: Susan Crutchville to take the side. Mayor Neal. Due to illness I would ask the council to actually table this item to be heard on February twenty eighth at the work session. [0:13:06, 0:13:09]: Do I hear a motion to table until the work session? [0:13:09, 0:13:10]: So moved. [0:13:10, 0:13:12]: Um do I hear a second. [0:13:13, 0:13:16]: Okay, we have a motion by Councilwoman Gantt. [0:13:17, 0:13:19]: Well the second with by Pro Tem Ford. [0:13:20, 0:13:23]: And all in fav or do we have discussion on that? [0:13:24, 0:13:27]: No discussion? All in favor? [0:13:28, 0:13:30]: Okay, thank you so much. [0:13:32, 0:13:52]: Okay, now we have some old business and this is going to be a number of appointments to various um councils, committees, that kind of thing. Um and I would like to ask my colleagues here if you all would like for me to read all of these and make a motion to take them all in at one time. [0:13:52, 0:13:57]: time is or do you want to just do'em one by one? All at one time, after we read'em. [0:13:58, 0:14:05]: Okay? And if we accept'em all. Okay? All right, let me start. The first one is going to be um [0:14:06, 0:14:26]: one of our own uh on the dais. This is the council appointment of a council representative on our Main Street advisory board. And that is going to be Anthony Ford, our pro tem. He served last year. He's willing to do that again. That's going to be uh the first one. The second [0:14:26, 0:14:39]: Second one, this will be appointments to the Main Street Advisory Board and it will be for two citizen appointments and that would be for Willie E. Hopkins and for Greg Horton. [0:14:40, 0:14:58]: Okay, next appointments of Counsel on Aging Representative, and that is tonight Tyrone C. Anderson, and he's in our audience. I know I saw him. Um appointed to the zoning advisory board, Shirley Wallace. [0:14:58, 0:15:09]: And then appointments on our youth council. I want to hold those just one second. If your name has been called so far, would you please stand and let us recognize you? [0:15:12, 0:15:18]: All right, thank you so much. Now then the appointment of Youth Council Advisory Committee [0:15:18, 0:15:22]: And that's going to be um a number of names. Emma Lewis. [0:15:23, 0:15:24]: Kenneth McFarlane. [0:15:24, 0:15:26]: Diane Miller. [0:15:27, 0:15:42]: Jacqueline Carter, Xavier Ross, Pamela Warner, and Callie Robinson. Are any of those people in the audience tonight? Okay. Uh oh, we do could you identify your name? [0:15:42, 0:15:43]: Thank you. [0:15:45, 0:15:58]: Xavier, okay. I I couldn't quite hear. All right, thank you, Xavier. All right, let me okay. At this time do I hear a motion that we accept all of these names? [0:15:59, 0:16:19]: Do I hear a motion that we accept these names? Mayor Protem. I mean Mayor Neal, apologies. I accept the names of appointments for the Youth Council Advisory Committee. Second. All right. All right. We have a motion to accept all of these names by um our councilwoman. [0:16:19, 0:16:22]: Mannet Robinson with a second by um [0:16:23, 0:16:24]: Council [0:16:25, 0:16:27]: Alexander. [0:16:27, 0:16:28]: Alexander. [0:16:29, 0:16:37]: And I was distracted just for a moment in the back. Uh do I have any emotion and I have the motion. Do I have a second? [0:16:37, 0:16:39]: Got it? Any discussion? [0:16:41, 0:16:43]: No discussion. All in favor? [0:16:43, 0:16:44]: It's me. [0:16:45, 0:16:48]: We want to especially thank all of these people [0:16:48, 0:16:56]: It it's wonderful when citizens step step forward and agree to serve, so we thank you so much for that, all of you. [0:17:03, 0:17:22]: At this time we are going to pause and we're going to go into our public hearing and that will be to discuss a variance request and it will regard a well known company, Waffle House, and that will be presented by our city manager, Mike Michael Harris. [0:17:25, 0:17:29]: Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem and Council. Um this was heard [0:17:29, 0:17:31]: at the last work session meeting [0:17:31, 0:17:35]: And again as a reiteration, this is a variance request from Waffle House. [0:17:35, 0:17:40]: located in North Cross Georgia. The variance is for is from development regulations [0:17:40, 0:17:47]: and request is uh two f two requests. One is to increase the allowable size of one ground size one ground sign. [0:17:47, 0:18:07]: and to increase the allowable number of wall signs from two to three. At the um work session there was some conversation in regards to um the location and whether or not um that was top of conversation. In this case this isn't has nothing to do with the location. They are by right and by the current zoning they are [0:18:07, 0:18:17]: are allowed to be um to locate there and they have they're going through the the permitting process now with location itself. So what's being considered this evening is [0:18:17, 0:18:19]: And I'll bring up the pictures real quick. [0:18:21, 0:18:21]: Um [0:18:23, 0:18:25]: A couple of variances. One for [0:18:27, 0:18:28]: The ground sign. [0:18:29, 0:18:30]: As it stands. [0:18:32, 0:18:34]: Because of their [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: Because of the configuration of the building [0:18:41, 0:18:43]: Yeah, because of the configuration you have the [0:18:45, 0:19:05]: Yeah, please. Because of the configuration of the building, one side of the Waffle House is very narrow. It's a very long, narrow building. And per our ordinance, the they're allowed to have um their sign can it should match the up to up to sixty four square feet of the yeah, there it is. Um [0:19:04, 0:19:16]: Uh based on the um width the the frontage of the of the width of the building. So go back to the other one please. Um in this case the frontage is only like twenty four, twenty five square feet. [0:19:16, 0:19:18]: So that would take them to a twenty square foot [0:19:19, 0:19:21]: ground sign what you see here on your right. [0:19:22, 0:19:24]: What they're asking for is a [0:19:25, 0:19:27]: Um more conventional fifty square foot sign. [0:19:27, 0:19:30]: It should be eight foot, which meets our requirements. [0:19:30, 0:19:31]: By thirteen feet. [0:19:32, 0:19:50]: Um there are a few this is right near the corner near Parkside. There are a few other signs in this area. McDonald's is across the street, slightly bigger, CVS and the bottle shot, all those would be slightly bigger than what's being proposed here with the variants. But I think at the last meeting it was asked what would the other sign look like. [0:19:50, 0:19:51]: And this is it. So [0:19:52, 0:19:55]: This gives you an idea of what that's one of the [0:19:56, 0:19:56]: Request [0:19:57, 0:20:04]: Um there was request in regards to how would it compare based to the one that's McDonald's, it gives you comparison. [0:20:05, 0:20:06]: But those two signs. [0:20:07, 0:20:09]: And [0:20:10, 0:20:11]: If we can find the [0:20:12, 0:20:22]: The other one is for a comparison of the is to add a a uh a wall sign on the on the side of the building. [0:20:24, 0:20:25]: You can't pull that one up. [0:20:27, 0:20:33]: 'Cause right now they have uh they're currently showing two wall signs and this would be for a third wall sign. Third um [0:20:36, 0:20:38]: We pull that up. [0:20:52, 0:20:59]: So um yeah give me a minute I'll pull that one up. Any questions while I'm working on that? Working through that. [0:21:00, 0:21:04]: From council. Is it okay if I say one comment about this? [0:21:05, 0:21:11]: I want to make sure that everybody in the audience could hear uh the explanation about [0:21:11, 0:21:12]: This item [0:21:13, 0:21:19]: And also I want to ask if this is the item that you signed up to speak on. Okay. [0:21:19, 0:21:20]: All right. [0:21:20, 0:21:22]: We we will allow that once we get to [0:21:22, 0:21:23]: to this point. [0:21:24, 0:21:30]: I wanna make sure that everyone in the room understands what we're voting on tonight. [0:21:31, 0:21:34]: There have been a lot of rumors going around. [0:21:34, 0:21:36]: And um [0:21:36, 0:21:39]: And and I wanna make sure that everybody understands. [0:21:39, 0:21:41]: The Waffle House [0:21:44, 0:21:49]: meets the zoning requirements, just like the McDonalds did across the street. [0:21:51, 0:21:54]: So that's one thing I wanted to share. [0:21:55, 0:21:58]: What they're asking for on that third sign [0:21:59, 0:22:03]: is exactly what McDonalds has across the street. [0:22:03, 0:22:07]: They have a sign, a big sign on one side of their building. [0:22:07, 0:22:14]: and a big logo type sign on the other side of their building, which makes two. And then they have a sign on the front. [0:22:15, 0:22:19]: So I want you to understand that we're not doing [0:22:19, 0:22:21]: This presentation is about [0:22:22, 0:22:24]: what fits within the zoning code. [0:22:25, 0:22:27]: And I'm not pushing for. [0:22:27, 0:22:29]: Or against. [0:22:29, 0:22:37]: I'm just telling you, I want you to be sure that you understand before you leave here tonight what is being asked. [0:22:38, 0:22:45]: Um Michael? Yeah, and and here is to pull up the this is the view for the variants for the wall signs. [0:22:46, 0:22:49]: Again, as noted, typically it'd be two wall signs. [0:22:49, 0:22:51]: In this case because of the configuration in it. [0:22:51, 0:22:54]: fronts on also on park side and [0:22:54, 0:22:55]: Ego's landing. [0:22:56, 0:22:58]: They're asking for a third wall sign. [0:22:59, 0:22:59]: Um [0:23:00, 0:23:04]: showing up in the in the brick recess, this would be the channel letters. [0:23:04, 0:23:23]: That are being offered. So this is a request. That's the the nature of it. The applicant is here and I'm sure you'd like to give this presentation speaking a little bit on as well. But if you have any questions from staff, we'd love to be happy to address them. We'll let the applicant speak and then we will let anyone that signed up to address this issue come to the microphone after the applicant comes. [0:23:35, 0:23:41]: Good evening. My name is Sanford McAllister. I am an employee of the Waffle House Corporation located in Norcross, Georgia. [0:23:41, 0:23:42]: And [0:23:43, 0:23:46]: I can further expand on the two variances that [0:23:46, 0:23:49]: Mr. Harris has outlined that we are seeking tonight. [0:23:50, 0:23:50]: And [0:23:51, 0:23:53]: They're both related to the unique [0:23:54, 0:23:58]: Hardships are created by the lot the the configuration as he referred to. [0:23:58, 0:24:00]: is very um [0:24:00, 0:24:10]: at the end of the day it's as simple as we're sandwiched between the road on one side and a drainage swell on the other side. So the building has to be oriented that way. [0:24:10, 0:24:12]: And due to the code. [0:24:12, 0:24:12]: Which [0:24:13, 0:24:15]: obligates the applicants to [0:24:17, 0:24:20]: apply for a sign that is related to the building [0:24:21, 0:24:23]: facade that actually faces the uh [0:24:24, 0:24:32]: the right of way in this case, Eagles Lane Parkway, that's our narrow end of the building and there's no way to rotate it ninety degrees. If we did rotate it ninety degrees as I've shared [0:24:32, 0:24:34]: uh previously the work session. [0:24:35, 0:24:41]: we wouldn't have this conversation because we would actually be able to have more signage than we're asking for, which is only fifty square feet. [0:24:41, 0:24:50]: If I knew how to operate this I would take it back to but hopefully I know one of you on this side, I don't recall which wanted to see the perspectives and have you seen those in [0:24:51, 0:24:51]: Okay. [0:24:52, 0:24:54]: And so not only are [0:24:54, 0:24:56]: is our sign, our ground sign. [0:24:56, 0:25:02]: uh within the code as far as the height, the only variance we are requesting is for the area itself. [0:25:03, 0:25:04]: And [0:25:04, 0:25:16]: again that's a function of the orientation of the building and we wouldn't wouldn't need to do that. And an another thing that I think is worth worth mentioning on the wall signage that was uh illustrated just a moment ago [0:25:17, 0:25:28]: that that those facades by code you can have up to a hundred square feet of wall signage. We want to keep things as tasteful as you've seen presented there and those signs are only thirty square feet. [0:25:29, 0:25:32]: much, much smaller than what is allowable on on the wall sign. [0:25:32, 0:25:33]: And so [0:25:34, 0:25:35]: That's the um [0:25:36, 0:25:37]: the background on what brings me [0:25:38, 0:25:39]: to you tonight. [0:25:39, 0:25:43]: I did have the opportunity to speak with two of the board members of the neighbouring [0:25:43, 0:25:46]: uh home development and parkside and and they [0:25:46, 0:25:53]: uh we met today and and talked through and they seem to completely understand s and support what we're we're heading toward. [0:25:54, 0:25:55]: So [0:25:57, 0:26:05]: I think that is the extent of of of what I wanted to share with you and you want to ask me any questions now or wait until [0:26:05, 0:26:05]: Um [0:26:10, 0:26:12]: Let let's hear um [0:26:13, 0:26:19]: Could could you pause and let me bring up could you give me the name again of the person who would like to speak? [0:26:19, 0:26:23]: Okay, you can go ahead. And [0:26:26, 0:26:27]: With a motion. [0:26:27, 0:26:30]: Well you don't need a motion, just open the Okay. [0:26:31, 0:26:36]: Okay, we're gonna open this into a hearing format to allow this speaker to come forward. [0:26:37, 0:26:38]: Both in favour or opposed. [0:26:39, 0:26:40]: Thank you, Pardon. [0:26:40, 0:26:44]: Yeah. [0:26:46, 0:26:51]: Oh do to vote on the Waffle House first? If you want people to speak in favor? [0:26:51, 0:26:51]: First [0:26:52, 0:27:00]: We only have one person speaking. We don't know that. Okay. All right. Okay. At this point I stand corrected. [0:27:00, 0:27:05]: Um if we have people in the audience who want to speak in favor of [0:27:07, 0:27:11]: Okay, anybody who's speaking in favour, off the Waffle House. [0:27:12, 0:27:16]: And Madame Clerk, there's a someone in the back that's still holding her [0:27:17, 0:27:26]: um piece but I think she's an opposition voter, so let's bring that up first. All right. Anyone in uh wanting to be in favor of this, please come forward. [0:27:28, 0:27:28]: If not [0:27:29, 0:27:34]: The clerk will call the names and have the two or others if there are others in the audience. [0:27:34, 0:27:37]: Okay. Janet Buchler? [0:27:38, 0:27:39]: Point of order. [0:27:40, 0:27:43]: She's against. She's coming up to speak against. Point of order. [0:27:44, 0:27:50]: Yes. There's anybody can come up and speak at this point to see you. [0:27:50, 0:27:52]: Right. You don't have to sign in. [0:27:55, 0:28:02]: All right, the people who have signed in are coming up first, okay? And then anyone else will be able to come up after that. So [0:28:02, 0:28:05]: Please come up to the podium, just come right around and [0:28:09, 0:28:15]: My name is Janet Beekler. I live at Parkside at Eagles Landing. I just have a couple of questions mainly. [0:28:16, 0:28:19]: And I think they were basically answered. [0:28:19, 0:28:21]: The there is no high sign. [0:28:21, 0:28:22]: It's lit. [0:28:23, 0:28:24]: Michael. [0:28:24, 0:28:35]: Could you help her is there a high sign that's lit or is it just the ground sign and the light the lights around the building? It's just the ground sign. [0:28:35, 0:28:36]: I have no problem. [0:28:37, 0:28:38]: Thank you so much. [0:28:39, 0:28:40]: Next person please. [0:28:44, 0:28:48]: And when you come to speak always give your street address and your name. Thank you. [0:28:49, 0:28:52]: And in this is an opposition, perhaps. [0:28:52, 0:28:57]: Yes, I've missed being able to oppose the fact that other [0:28:57, 0:29:00]: I've missed it uh of being [0:29:01, 0:29:03]: i in favor of opposing. [0:29:03, 0:29:05]: Waffle House being there. But [0:29:06, 0:29:09]: It's not so much that I oppose. [0:29:09, 0:29:11]: A business going there. [0:29:11, 0:29:13]: It's a twenty four seven. [0:29:13, 0:29:15]: business going in there. [0:29:15, 0:29:18]: You talk about McDonald's across the street. [0:29:18, 0:29:22]: It's cross street. It's not quite beside [0:29:22, 0:29:25]: where my granddaughter plays on the playground. [0:29:25, 0:29:32]: where I take her to the swimming pool, t right beside it. Y'all have not even taken that into consideration. [0:29:33, 0:29:34]: Uh [0:29:34, 0:29:41]: And you're talking about giving more signage. Do they really need signage on the right side facing our menatees area? [0:29:42, 0:29:45]: It's bad enough that the board has approved [0:29:46, 0:29:49]: in a residential area of this type business. [0:29:49, 0:29:52]: Surely you could have approved some other business. [0:29:52, 0:29:55]: Than a Waffle House. I mean, I love Waffle House. I go there. [0:29:56, 0:30:01]: There are already three waffle houses on that one stretch. [0:30:01, 0:30:04]: Th you know, this is gonna be the fourth [0:30:05, 0:30:05]: You allowed [0:30:06, 0:30:09]: McDonald's to go in across the street. [0:30:09, 0:30:12]: We already have a fed problem. [0:30:13, 0:30:19]: We were promised the moon and given nothing for when the Eagles Landing was expanded. [0:30:19, 0:30:23]: There's gonna be deaths trying to get out of Parkside. [0:30:23, 0:30:25]: Tonight when I was coming here [0:30:26, 0:30:32]: I had to wait ten minutes to get all the way across to be able to turn left. [0:30:32, 0:30:34]: I could've went on town a mile. [0:30:35, 0:30:42]: But it's ridiculous. I can't go out of the backside of Parkside and turn left. I can't go anywhere out of Parkside and turn left. [0:30:43, 0:30:46]: Please give some consideration to us. [0:30:46, 0:30:50]: And don't make it look so business since it's already been approved. [0:30:51, 0:30:56]: And I wasn't able to oppose either this or McDonald's. [0:30:57, 0:31:03]: You know, I expected it to be a business. It was zoned. I just didn't want a twenty four seven [0:31:03, 0:31:07]: Where lights are gonna be shining in my neighbor's backyard. [0:31:07, 0:31:09]: I'm the fourth house on the right. [0:31:10, 0:31:17]: It's not gonna affect me that terribly much, but it is the person that's gonna be backed up to that. They're gonna have all kind of lights. [0:31:18, 0:31:19]: Uh you know. [0:31:19, 0:31:25]: Please take into consideration the residents. There's about two hundred people that live in Parkside. [0:31:25, 0:31:26]: And [0:31:26, 0:31:34]: Y'all haven't taken any of this into consideration by approving this. Again, I love to eat at Waffle House. I just don't want one as my neighbor. [0:31:35, 0:31:40]: Thank you. And we have your name and address on the form. Thank you so much. [0:31:40, 0:31:44]: All right. Is there anyone else in the audience that would like to speak? [0:31:46, 0:31:47]: Against [0:31:48, 0:31:48]: The project. [0:31:49, 0:31:49]: Please come up. [0:31:50, 0:31:51]: No, you're okay. [0:31:51, 0:31:56]: Anyone any anyone in the audience that wants to speak for the project? [0:31:56, 0:31:57]: All right, Ms. Uh. [0:31:58, 0:32:00]: Bishop Breyer, please come up. [0:32:00, 0:32:02]: Give your name and address. [0:32:08, 0:32:09]: Mm. [0:32:10, 0:32:15]: My name is uh Bishop Irving Breyer, I'm at 111 Barrington Parkway, Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:32:15, 0:32:16]: Okay. [0:32:19, 0:32:26]: I wanted to bring the I wasn't clear on Adidas or on ground for the ground side. [0:32:27, 0:32:29]: These are not coming out, so it's on facial. [0:32:30, 0:32:35]: These are mounted on the they're channel letters mounted on the building. So they're not on the ground? [0:32:35, 0:32:38]: No, no, no, these are not. There is another ground size. [0:32:41, 0:32:52]: Bishop Breyer, could you raise the question verbally so the audience can hear your questions? Where the signs are. There are two on the building and they wanted those enlarged. [0:32:54, 0:32:55]: No sir. The [0:32:56, 0:33:01]: One request is to for the size of the ground mount the ground ground sign. [0:33:02, 0:33:03]: And the other one is for the [0:33:04, 0:33:10]: on the building. I'm concerned about the ground side. That's the ground side. That's what he's asking. [0:33:10, 0:33:15]: Block any traffic ongoing for either park site or fire. [0:33:15, 0:33:24]: Ask a lot of questions, you just get to be for or against, okay? He's shown you what you asked to see. But the reason I have to ask that I can't tell from the drawings. [0:33:24, 0:33:26]: If it's in the way of traffic. [0:33:27, 0:33:30]: For instance, if I'm going over that old if I'm coming up the bridge now [0:33:31, 0:33:35]: I'm distracted by that big sign coming over that that bridge. [0:33:35, 0:33:37]: So if that ground side [0:33:37, 0:33:41]: interferes with traffic on Eagles Landing or Park side. [0:33:42, 0:33:43]: Then it's [0:33:44, 0:33:46]: I couldn't appro I couldn't be in favour of it. [0:33:46, 0:33:49]: As long as that sign does not impair vision. [0:33:50, 0:33:51]: Then it's fine with me. [0:33:52, 0:33:53]: Because the height is okay. [0:33:54, 0:34:02]: Okay. Let let's bring the Waffle House people back up and let him uh respond to this if you would. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. [0:34:03, 0:34:06]: Mayor, if I may, while he's coming, I I did want to clarify [0:34:06, 0:34:09]: Um something one of the residents did say. It it is [0:34:10, 0:34:18]: It wasn't for this council to approve or disapprove. It never came before this council for approval or disapproval because the property has been zoned. [0:34:18, 0:34:23]: Um so the property was zoned and in this case the use has been proposed. [0:34:23, 0:34:24]: [2064.3, 2080.0]: amenable to that to that zoning. So there wasn't anything to come before this or any other body to ask for permission because the zoning was currently in place. And I did also want to note that um it was heard by the zoning advisory board two weeks ago and it was approved by the zoning advisory board. So [0:34:41, 0:34:45]: And I apologize for not identifying my the Waffle House people, the other [0:34:45, 0:34:49]: thing that makes a plural is Richard Voigt. He's our in house counsel and he has made the journey down and [0:34:50, 0:34:52]: That is the rest of our people. I forgot to mention that. [0:34:52, 0:34:56]: Uh, could you pause for me? Bishop Ryer you can take your seat while he [0:34:56, 0:34:59]: It's his turn now. Thank you. And so the answer to [0:35:00, 0:35:01]: His question. [0:35:01, 0:35:10]: the actual edge of a pavement is the sign is forty two feet beyond there and traffic and engineering have um [0:35:10, 0:35:14]: rules and requirements that uh they call a site triangle to ensure that there's not a [0:35:14, 0:35:22]: a traffic hazard created in terms of visibility from the signage. So it is a full forty two feet back from the edge of pavement and [0:35:22, 0:35:24]: And even further from the right away. So [0:35:24, 0:35:26]: That is how it's situated on the site plan. [0:35:26, 0:35:27]: Okay. [0:35:27, 0:35:30]: Any other comments for or against? [0:35:32, 0:35:39]: At this time we will I will ask for a motion for this variance request. [0:35:40, 0:35:41]: Is there a motion? [0:35:41, 0:35:43]: Yeah, I asked you to close the public hearing. [0:35:43, 0:35:45]: Oh, thank you for reminding me. [0:35:46, 0:35:46]: All right. [0:35:47, 0:35:51]: We will close the public hearing at this point and move on to the vote. [0:35:56, 0:35:59]: At this time do I hear a request for [0:36:02, 0:36:02]: We make a comment? [0:36:03, 0:36:05]: Can we make a comment? [0:36:05, 0:36:05]: Alors. [0:36:07, 0:36:10]: Um, do you want to hold that until we get to the point of discussion? [0:36:11, 0:36:11]: Or [0:36:13, 0:36:15]: Mr Attorney, I need your [0:36:16, 0:36:20]: A as a presiding officer you have the discretion to allow. [0:36:20, 0:36:27]: All right. If anyone on the uh Dais has an uh uh comment, please make them now and we'll start with the Councilman Robinson. [0:36:27, 0:36:43]: Um I just wanna address everyone um because there has been a lot of concerns and um I just wanted to be clear that this council it did not come before this council. Um so there was some concerns as well. Um but at this point [0:36:43, 0:36:52]: Um there's nothing this council can do. So I just wanted to make that clear um to everyone, real clear. Thank you. Mayor. [0:36:54, 0:37:00]: I have a request uh from my seat net here from Councilman Blount. We'll go to him next. [0:37:01, 0:37:09]: Um yes, I've talked to many residents of the city of Stockbridge and one of my main concerns when it was first brought up is that [0:37:09, 0:37:29]: Um I would like to see any new development that's gonna be proposed for the city of Stockbridge in the future so that the public can be aware of what's going on, even if it's been permitted and if it's gonna come through the city of Stockbridge, because all the feedback that I'm getting is negative feedback. Uh that is a concern of mine because I remember on even on my campaign. [0:37:29, 0:37:49]: Trail, although I was one of my signs were in a distance from the street. It was still impairing vision coming uh all depending on which way you was coming from tracker, so I had to move that um move my sign back because of that. We we we're talking about something that's already been approved for as a building for his Waffle House, but [0:37:49, 0:38:09]: But um when it comes to my position as a city council member, my concerns are those that are not only in my community but all the citizens of Stockbridge and and the feedback I'm getting from them and which I brought also to um I'm assuming the the developer is that in the city in that area is so unique and so interesting that after ten o'clock [0:38:09, 0:38:11]: Mostly everything is closed there. [0:38:12, 0:38:20]: uh uh in in that area. So what we're attracting and then we can't w we as a council, since we had no idea [0:38:20, 0:38:27]: uh what was gonna be coming there and we had no choice of what was coming there. We couldn't get feedback from any citizens [0:38:27, 0:38:32]: like we're getting tonight, which I think we should in the future, so maybe we'll make those adjustments. [0:38:32, 0:38:36]: Um because those are some concerns when it comes to twenty four hour lights. [0:38:36, 0:38:42]: uh and traffic uh uh impedement for uh the citizens to get in and out of uh their driveways. [0:38:43, 0:38:45]: Any other comments? Councilman Alexander. [0:38:45, 0:39:05]: Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I want to echo uh what Councilman Blount said. Pretty much uh all the feedback that I've gotten has been negative as well. And um, you know, when it really comes to this, we do have three waffle houses already down uh this line or down this road. Um where it really comes [0:39:05, 0:39:06]: [2347.4, 2353.1]: this council and the city is challenged to do better. [0:39:13, 0:39:14]: As a group. [0:39:14, 0:39:20]: because we need to look at every parcel in the city [0:39:20, 0:39:27]: and identify situations like this so in the future you can have your input. [0:39:27, 0:39:38]: The only way that you're gonna have your input in the future is in that we undertake this task of identifying each individual parcel because this Waffle House [0:39:38, 0:39:58]: parcel was zoned previously so the Waffle House or anyone else would pretty much that fit that zoning requirement would not have to come to us. Uh I personally have spoken with the city manager about reviewing each parcel in Stockbridge. Uh we had a similar situation happening [0:39:58, 0:40:05]: happen in front of uh Monarch Village subdivision where a family dollar was going to go there. [0:40:05, 0:40:25]: And and we we still have not uh identified that as a group. So I I say today that uh we have to do better and we're going to do better. And as far as this is concerned, no personally uh the Waffle House is already there, but at the same time, can I vote for any any of this? No or can [0:40:25, 0:40:37]: not because personally uh the situation is it is what it is and uh is it i is it our purview to approve or deny, I can't support it. [0:40:38, 0:40:44]: Are there any other comments by council members? Yes, Madam Mayor. Um Councilman Yant. [0:40:44, 0:40:49]: Um, just so that everyone understands and I and I have a question as well. [0:40:50, 0:41:06]: Um in regards to the Waffle House or any store or any type of business that's coming here, we're not necessarily the first people to know what business is coming. Most of the time the business is already gonna be here, it's already been planned, they've done all their paperwork. [0:41:07, 0:41:27]: They come to us for zoning ordinance changes or signs such as these or something some type of variance that they need. So the McDonalds, they were already there. They came to us to get some type of variance. If it's a hotel and if it's zoned already in that property, they they're already there. They come to us [0:41:27, 0:41:47]: After the fact. A lot of times people keep real estate deals very hush hush, especially commercial. Um the community as a whole, we can ask for certain restaurants. [0:41:47, 0:42:05]: FYI so you're aware and you get a a clear picture of what's going on here, you know, we can't control what stores come here and ask us if we don't know in advance. Um it's just not something that we we have um the ability to do. [0:42:05, 0:42:23]: Um and my last my one of my questions, um one of the citizens did come up and make a comment and state that we could at least consider not putting a sign on one of the sides of the Waffle House that is facing their amenities. And so [0:42:24, 0:42:33]: I want to know what side that would be, if it's facing their side of their amenities, um and if it is, what side is that on? [0:42:36, 0:42:44]: On the west side. On the west side. So is that the right the extra the third sign would be? Okay. [0:42:45, 0:42:53]: And is there is there anything blocking that view so that this the neighborhood wouldn't see the sign if they didn't want to see it or [0:42:54, 0:42:56]: Is it's gonna I'm sorry. [0:43:01, 0:43:20]: And Mr. Harris, is there something that we can do about that? Is it on their property or the property in the neighborhood subdivision? Yeah, I'm not sure if there's a buffer currently located on I think there's some part of a buffer on the Waffle House property it stands right now. Wanna come back to the microphone? [0:43:22, 0:43:23]: See if the site plans up here. [0:43:27, 0:43:35]: Yes, there is a significant buffer along the entire stretch on the side, the west side. [0:43:35, 0:43:39]: Uh as a matter of fact, it's very significant. It it's wooded and it's also in a swale. [0:43:39, 0:43:41]: The diagram that you're seeing now, I don't [0:43:41, 0:43:43]: Guess I have do I have a way to point on this? [0:43:44, 0:43:46]: the mouse, all of those [0:43:50, 0:43:55]: lines right here are the slope and there's nothing but trees there. [0:43:55, 0:43:56]: Um [0:43:57, 0:44:06]: all the way through. As a matter of fact, you know, they actually asked me today, hey, I hope you'll clean up some of the brush underneath there when we was meeting with two board members,'cause it's a lot. [0:44:06, 0:44:11]: there and it's a all each of those lines represents a one footfall in topography. [0:44:11, 0:44:13]: in that swell that I described. [0:44:13, 0:44:14]: There it is. [0:44:14, 0:44:15]: Fully would it. [0:44:16, 0:44:20]: Okay. So will those that buffer remain to allow so the sand wouldn't [0:44:21, 0:44:25]: It would blot the view basically. Yeah, definitely. [0:44:25, 0:44:28]: From their amenities, yeah, um it it definitely is [0:44:28, 0:44:30]: Very well screened and [0:44:31, 0:44:32]: And the other thing. [0:44:32, 0:44:33]: the entire [0:44:34, 0:44:44]: part as plans that we've submitted indicate, nothing's being removed there. All of that intentionally is is intended to maintain a a very solid buffer. [0:44:46, 0:45:06]: All right. Do we have any other questions or comments by counsel? Yeah. Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate it. It's my understanding that the with the McDonald's, which is a c obviously across the street, that uh they asked for a variance as well, and that variance came that occurred back in October of twenty fourteen and that aspect so the president's uh has already been [0:45:05, 0:45:25]: And set per se in that aspect. But it's good to know that there's a good amount of buffer uh between on that west side and between that and the community, it seems like. So uh that should uh that should hopefully suffice. Uh but on that note, uh since it deals with various, I'd like to make a motion uh that the council considers the variances uh that [0:45:25, 0:45:31]: that the uh Waffle House is uh uh uh presenting and that uh be approved. [0:45:32, 0:45:38]: I hear a motion by Pro Tem Ford. Do I hear a second to that motion? [0:45:41, 0:45:43]: Do I hear a second to the motion? [0:45:47, 0:45:52]: There is no second, so I would assume that the motion fails. [0:45:52, 0:45:53]: Madam Mayor. [0:45:54, 0:46:05]: I m would like to make a motion to approve the variance for the the ground sign but not the sign the third sign on the building. Okay, but that motion he just made failed. [0:46:05, 0:46:06]: Without a second. [0:46:07, 0:46:08]: Okay. Has everybody got that? [0:46:09, 0:46:13]: Okay. Uh any discussion on that first motion? [0:46:15, 0:46:17]: Okay. Is there another motion? [0:46:19, 0:46:19]: Madam Mayor. [0:46:20, 0:46:33]: I I would like to move that we approve the variance for the ground signs but not the third wall sign on the west side towards the um subdivision of Parkside. [0:46:34, 0:46:36]: Do I hear a second to that motion? [0:46:41, 0:46:44]: No second to the motion. [0:46:48, 0:46:52]: Mr Attorney, any comments anybody over there want to make? No ma'am. Okay. [0:46:53, 0:46:55]: All right, no. [0:46:56, 0:47:00]: Okay. That appears that that motion has failed. [0:47:02, 0:47:04]: Any discussion? [0:47:06, 0:47:07]: Yes, ma'am. [0:47:08, 0:47:09]: Yeah. [0:47:09, 0:47:10]: Hold on just a minute. [0:47:13, 0:47:23]: All in favor? Okay. All right, everybody. We have a motion. Do we have a second? [0:47:24, 0:47:27]: I asked for a second but it I didn't get one. [0:47:28, 0:47:35]: No, it failed. There a second to that motion made by Councilwoman Gantt. Okay, I feel I'll second that. [0:47:36, 0:47:38]: Okay. Is there any discussion? [0:47:42, 0:47:44]: No discussion? Yeah, one second. [0:47:45, 0:47:55]: Yeah, I just got if if we um obviously if this doesn't pass and obviously this variance goes away and Waffle House is just back to what position here? [0:47:56, 0:48:16]: Well, there's nothing restricting them to building the site. It would restrict them to two wall signs and a ground sign not to exceed the twenty the other variation that you saw on there twenty square foot. So the wall sign and the sign the wall signs on the building and the sign that goes in front of the uh front of the building would be within the normal order. [0:48:16, 0:48:25]: ordinance or requirement, not the exceptional reverence that they the larger site that they want. That's correct, it'd be the smaller sign that we showed earlier, the twenty square foot sign. Okay, thank you. [0:48:27, 0:48:30]: Okay, we have a motion and a second. [0:48:32, 0:48:33]: Or the [0:48:33, 0:48:36]: You want to restate that motion again, Councilwoman? [0:48:37, 0:48:48]: Um yes, I move that we approve the ground sign, however we would not approve the wall sign on the west side of the um [0:48:48, 0:48:49]: Um building. [0:48:50, 0:48:50]: Okay. [0:48:51, 0:49:00]: Yeah, every basin the park side subdivision. So that motion would be they'd be limited to two ground signs or two two wall signs. [0:49:00, 0:49:05]: But this motion would be their ground sign that they're asking for, the fifty square foot [0:49:05, 0:49:07]: would be allowed in this case. [0:49:07, 0:49:08]: Those two separate scenarios. [0:49:10, 0:49:19]: For the ground sign and the two w two signs instead of three. That's correct. That sounds like what your motion is. Yes, that's correct. Okay. Does everybody understand the motion? [0:49:23, 0:49:26]: We've had discussion. All in favor of the motion. [0:49:31, 0:49:32]: All opposed? [0:49:38, 0:49:46]: Okay. We are in um still in our that unfortunately that motion has failed. [0:49:48, 0:49:50]: Nothing we can do at this point. [0:49:51, 0:49:51]: Um [0:49:52, 0:49:54]: We're still in public hearing. [0:49:57, 0:50:01]: And we have an annexation request being presented by Michael Harris. [0:50:04, 0:50:06]: Okay, thank you again. This is [0:50:07, 0:50:09]: Again, item that was discussed during [0:50:11, 0:50:12]: Get back to those. [0:50:12, 0:50:15]: uh during the work session recently [0:50:16, 0:50:17]: In which [0:50:17, 0:50:19]: And pull it up here. [0:50:19, 0:50:22]: This is property that is currently [0:50:22, 0:50:24]: Um owned by the city. [0:50:24, 0:50:31]: And the area designated in red outline is the Reeves Creek Trailhead off of Flippin' Road. [0:50:32, 0:50:35]: Um the city acquired this property some three years ago. [0:50:35, 0:50:44]: um four years ago actually for the purpose of building a trailhead which w which is part of the construction of the trail leading from Flippin Road to Memorial Park. [0:50:45, 0:51:05]: Um while the property is in fact owned by the city, as you can tell by the area shown in the light the lighter color, it is not currently physically within the city Stockbridge boundaries. Um for that an annexation needs to take place. So what the city did was we notified the county [0:51:05, 0:51:06]: County. [0:51:07, 0:51:15]: Um back in early part of January for the thirty day um notification requirement. Um that requirement has now been met. [0:51:16, 0:51:20]: and there was no opposition um voiced by the county. [0:51:21, 0:51:24]: Pro pro the item was also heard by the zone advisory board. [0:51:25, 0:51:38]: last month as well and they unanimously approved. Again, this is principally just a clean up item, just to bring our part within our boundaries. So that's the item that's being considered for you for the council's consideration this evening. [0:51:38, 0:51:40]: Yeah, do you have any questions? [0:51:41, 0:51:44]: Okay, does anyone have questions of the city manager at this point? [0:51:47, 0:51:53]: Yeah. [0:51:53, 0:52:07]: Yes. Uh public hearing. Um if nobody up here has comment, then we'll go into the public hearing portion. Anyone in the room want to come up and speak in favor? [0:52:07, 0:52:12]: of this annexation. Anyone in the room want to speak in favour? [0:52:15, 0:52:18]: Is there anyone in the room that would like to s oppose this [0:52:19, 0:52:20]: Motion. [0:52:23, 0:52:24]: Okay. [0:52:25, 0:52:27]: If that's the um no one is [0:52:28, 0:52:29]: Wants to come for either [0:52:30, 0:52:33]: Um for or against is there a motion? [0:52:34, 0:52:41]: Yes. Don't need a motion. Beg your pardon? Just need to close the hearing. Okay, at this point we'll close the hearing on that matter. [0:52:41, 0:52:46]: The next item is to update the city's official zoning map. [0:52:46, 0:52:51]: Mayor. No, we still we closed the public hearing but we still gotta have a motion to approve that says it. Okay. [0:52:53, 0:52:55]: Yes, I would like to make a motion to approve [0:52:55, 0:53:04]: Annexation request AX seventeen fifty one bringing this partial our trailhead into the city of Stockbridge. [0:53:05, 0:53:07]: Okay, any discussion? [0:53:10, 0:53:12]: Okay, if no discussion, all in favor? [0:53:14, 0:53:24]: Okay, thank you so much. Next item on the um public hearing is to update the city's officials zoning map that will be presented by [0:53:24, 0:53:27]: our city manager Michael Harris. [0:53:27, 0:53:37]: Yes, thank you again. Um once again this is something we're gonna be getting into the habit of doing on an annual basis. Um this is updating and adopting our official zoning map. [0:53:37, 0:53:38]: Um [0:53:38, 0:53:58]: We hadn't done this in a couple of years, so we wanted to make sure we're going through the exercise now on an annual basis to go back through to pick up any rezonings that may have occurred throughout the course of the year. Throughout the course of the year we'll always keep a running um an active working map which will show an up to date version of all any rezonings that take place throughout the course of the year and then [0:53:58, 0:54:09]: every year beginning of the year we'll go back through the process of um formally adopting a new map to reflect any and all change that may have occurred throughout that um previous year. The principal [0:54:10, 0:54:26]: Um area of note this year is the addition of a new zoning district which is shown it's difficult to see but my mouse up here is kinda showing it it just follows the railroad line for those areas where the railroad um touches city boundaries. [0:54:27, 0:54:47]: And we added a zoning classification of X1, and this is solely for the purpose of um establishing a zoning classification for that railroad right away area, which would give us the opportunity to put provisions in place. Um this is really a a issue that uh uh came up a couple years ago in which um some development [0:54:47, 0:54:59]: took place within the raw railroad right away because the area was not zoned, so we're assigning the zoning um designation to it so we can put some prohibitions on what can and cannot be allowed within those right away areas per our code. So [0:54:59, 0:55:05]: Um something our attorney um worked on a great deal. Uh Justin Kilgore did a great job putting the map together. [0:55:05, 0:55:11]: Um so again, this will be an annual practice that we'll be engaging in and bring it back to the council. [0:55:11, 0:55:13]: Every year at the beginning at the beginning of the year. [0:55:14, 0:55:22]: Right. Is there any discussion on the dais about this item number nine of uh to update the city zoning map? [0:55:23, 0:55:25]: [3325.7, 3326.4]: Okay. [0:55:26, 0:55:35]: Mr City Manager, uh in terms of what we just went through and just w what we just voted on in terms of the property on Eagles Landing Parkway. [0:55:35, 0:55:44]: i i will there be some effort in this uh or in the future to um identify these parcels as we do this process here? [0:55:45, 0:56:02]: uh by identify what what do you mean? Like in this case in that case, that property had been previously zoned um commercial. It's been zoned commercial for a number the majority of the property along that corridor is zone commercial and they just identified a a a piece where they felt that [0:56:02, 0:56:05]: Um again it met the zoning requirements for them to be able to build in that area. [0:56:06, 0:56:26]: Right. What I'm saying is as we look at the map and we see things like this that could potentially be issues and I know that's a hard process, but um it it can some effort be put forward so we can kinda inform the neighbors this is what's the possibility, you know, what their recourse is? Yeah, I I think so and and certainly, you know, just [0:56:26, 0:56:31]: letting everyone know. This will be posted on our website and letting people know'cause it's tough to [0:56:31, 0:56:51]: We're a city of thirteen point three square miles. So to identify i every every little caveat that may that may have an impact uh in the individual would be difficult. But certainly to encourage ri residents to go through, look at the zoning maps if they have questions, bring them back to our attention or as council certainly drives throughout the throughout the city boundaries, uh areas that be uh that are identified. [0:56:51, 0:57:11]: identified as we do on a regular basis, as areas come up there have been areas in the past where we have done city initiated rezonings where areas we th felt were appropriate, but you know, typically as those issues come up, difficult to recognize what someone may deem as a potential um uh source spot or an area that they may have some concern with. So [0:57:11, 0:57:15]: Um continue to I think you know part of the big push is continue to [0:57:15, 0:57:30]: um encourage our citizens to go on website, ask questions, review, look at the zoning map and look at their area in and question and find out, hey, what does red mean? It's right adjacent to my property. What can what can possibly be built there? We can be able to provide them with that information. [0:57:31, 0:57:31]: Yeah. [0:57:32, 0:57:52]: At this time are there other questions or comments? Yes, ma'am, um, is it possible since we're having community meetings, um, that this can be brought forth as an item if something is coming up that that way we can put it out there because we do have the flyers inviting everyone to come to the newly stated community. [0:57:52, 0:57:56]: community meetings is that something we can you can be presented at that time? [0:57:57, 0:58:13]: 'Cause I know we're saying the um web page again, a lot of our seniors are not on that, but by having these meetings in the different areas I think that would be able to help us out. But we just gotta be prepared to present that to them. [0:58:13, 0:58:33]: For community meetings, if council members are meeting outside of outside of City Hall here, we can put something put the map on a board if they want to you know take it with them and be able to have it on display. So it allow people to have a take a look at it and see, hey, I live here, it's blue or it's red. What does that mean? There's a legend that kind of dictates and from there if they have a c question or concern they can [0:58:33, 0:58:36]: We can answer any questions they may have. But [0:58:36, 0:58:38]: Certainly, we can certainly make that available for any council member. [0:58:39, 0:58:41]: Excellent. Okay. Any other comments? [0:58:42, 0:58:46]: Are there those in the audience that would like to speak to this matter? [0:58:47, 0:58:48]: If so. [0:58:49, 0:58:51]: Identify yourself. You can come to the [0:58:53, 0:58:54]: Microphone? [0:58:55, 0:59:00]: We have no one that appears to want to speak on this matter, so at this time, um [0:59:03, 0:59:07]: I would need a motion for [0:59:07, 0:59:18]: Need to close the public hearing and then take a motion. Take it up. Okay. At this point we'll close the public hearing on this one item and then we'll um have a entertain a motion. [0:59:19, 0:59:20]: Mayor, Madam Mayor. [0:59:21, 0:59:21]: Um [0:59:22, 0:59:25]: I would like to make a motion to update [0:59:25, 0:59:28]: To approve the updating of the city official zoning map. [0:59:30, 0:59:35]: All right, we have a motion by Councilwoman Gantt and a second by [0:59:35, 0:59:36]: Oh Councilman Blount. [0:59:38, 0:59:40]: I hear any discussion at this point. [0:59:41, 0:59:42]: No discussion. All in favor? [0:59:44, 0:59:46]: Okay, thank you very much. [0:59:48, 0:59:55]: We have one other public hearing matter to address and that will be a request for amendment of the city's zoning code. [0:59:55, 0:59:59]: And that will be presented by our attorney Michael Williams. [0:59:59, 1:00:10]: Good evening, Madam Mayor and the City Council. Uh as you will recall from our last uh work session, uh this matter involves uh an update to the uh commercial [1:00:10, 1:00:15]: uh zoning code which would require enhanced brick facade for [1:00:16, 1:00:22]: commercial buildings. Um as I indicated at the work session, the zoning advisory board would like to have additional time [1:00:23, 1:00:25]: to review this matter and bring forward uh [1:00:26, 1:00:27]: a recommendation. [1:00:28, 1:00:36]: Um so at this time I would recommend that you open the public hearing to receive comment and then recess the public hearing. [1:00:36, 1:00:52]: uh until the next uh regular meeting of council to allow the zoning advisory board to meet again and bring back a recommendation. We anticipate that that recommendation would come prior to your work session so you would have a chance to review it um t at least two more times. [1:00:52, 1:00:58]: Okay, you've heard the request of our city attorney that we um [1:00:59, 1:01:14]: push this forward for discussion. So we'll close the public hearing at this point. We need we need to open the public hearing and then recess it till the next Okay. We're opening and recessing. Do I hear a motion to do that? Yes. Don't have to do that. [1:01:15, 1:01:25]: That now if there are people here who would like to speak, it would be appropriate to hear them, but then we'd have another opportunity. [1:01:26, 1:01:28]: move this to our next meeting. [1:01:31, 1:01:33]: L one? Okay. [1:01:33, 1:01:34]: So then [1:01:35, 1:01:38]: No, come forward please and identify yourself. [1:01:45, 1:01:53]: I just want to ask a question. Um Greg Horton, I live at one two one Duval Drive. Um, what will the update do in regard to the brick facade? [1:01:56, 1:02:02]: Currently our ordinance uh for commercial and industrial buildings require [1:02:02, 1:02:03]: that sets forward limited [1:02:04, 1:02:08]: types of materials that you're allowed to use for the facade and for the sides. [1:02:09, 1:02:13]: And they're, you know, brick, party plank, things of that sort. [1:02:13, 1:02:18]: What the proposed ordinance would do would be that for the facade it would have an at least [1:02:19, 1:02:22]: uh have fifty percent brick on the facade. [1:02:23, 1:02:30]: Um the proposal that was before the council last week also had a requirement for brick on on at least three sides. [1:02:30, 1:02:37]: But those um have been requested by the zoning advisory board for additional time to review those. So [1:02:37, 1:02:38]: Um [1:02:39, 1:02:45]: my recommendation to you is if you want to follow this would be to go to the next zoning advisory board meeting. [1:02:45, 1:02:47]: And they'll discuss it in further detail and [1:02:47, 1:02:49]: We'll find out what their recommendation is. [1:02:51, 1:02:54]: Okay. Any other comments? Yes. [1:02:56, 1:03:16]: Elseman Alexander. I believe Mr. Horton owns uh the business downtown, is that correct? Uh uh potential business. Um is that your business downtown, Barn Beautiful? There is all that's already a requirement uh in downtown as far as I understand. So there's already uh pre-existing brick puss uh requirement there. [1:03:15, 1:03:16]: Yeah. [1:03:16, 1:03:20]: Yes, yes, sir. In fact what was presented to the council [1:03:20, 1:03:25]: was the adoption of what's currently on the downtown overlay [1:03:25, 1:03:26]: to the entire city. [1:03:27, 1:03:28]: Um so [1:03:29, 1:03:34]: i if you already have a a building under that overlay you're already subject to that but [1:03:34, 1:03:39]: whether or not those are appropriate for the entire city. And I think the zoning advisory board wanted to review that. [1:03:39, 1:03:40]: Further. [1:03:42, 1:04:01]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. I appreciate it. I was just wondering since this uh is it possible or is it appropriate to have this on the website so people can see this and they can be they can view it and then it might help them with any questions whether they have one way or the other. But uh I mean is that appropriate that'd probably be good to at least uh alert people then and so they can view it. [1:04:02, 1:04:04]: Yes, sir. Okay. Okay. Thank you. [1:04:05, 1:04:05]: Okay. [1:04:07, 1:04:11]: What are we adding to the book? Any other comments about this matter? [1:04:14, 1:04:21]: And we will move back to our regular meeting at this point. Okay. Close the public hearing. [1:04:21, 1:04:28]: Mayor Neal, I just wanted to state that that next meeting and we have already advertised it to be the March [1:04:29, 1:04:35]: Thirteenth meeting. Okay. Everyone in the audience you hear that. It will come up again on March thirteenth. [1:04:36, 1:04:40]: At this point we will move on to our new business. [1:04:40, 1:04:41]: At this time. [1:04:42, 1:05:02]: And the first order of business is for uh consideration to approve the twenty seventeen voting schedule for the city and that will be presented by our um city clerk, Vanessa Holliday. And in case those in the audience don't know, there will be a city election and she will our clerk will explain. [1:05:02, 1:05:04]: Explain that to you. That will be in November. [1:05:04, 1:05:12]: That's correct. We will have a municipal election in twenty seventeen for two council seats and the mayoral seat. [1:05:13, 1:05:33]: And we had at our last work session meeting there were seven um proposed schedules for the twenty seventeen uh voting calendar. I took back to um the Henry County elections office uh and made a request for proposal [1:05:33, 1:05:40]: to include Sunday in those um schedules. [1:05:40, 1:05:42]: We went back in option one. [1:05:43, 1:05:45]: has added a Sunday [1:05:45, 1:06:00]: voting from one PM to five PM with two Saturdays and with voting hours from on Saturday from eight AM to two PM and with one week of early voting at the Merrill Manders Conference Center from seven A.M. to seven PM [1:06:01, 1:06:04]: The other two weeks would be at the Henry County elections office. [1:06:04, 1:06:23]: and the runoff being held at the Merrill Manders Conference Center from seven a.m. to seven PM. The adjustment to the Saturday Sunday hours were offset by each other because we changed the Saturday hours and so the cost is uh remains estimated at twenty three thousand five hundred. [1:06:24, 1:06:40]: Option one A has added a Sunday voting from one PM to five PM with two Saturdays and with voting hours on Saturday from eight AM to two PM with one week of early voting at the Merrill Mandis Conference Center from seven AM to seven PM. [1:06:40, 1:06:57]: With the runoff being held at the Henry County elections office from seven AM to seven PM. The adjustment to the Saturday Sunday hours again offset the estimated change cost rema uh is zero and remains at nineteen thousand dollars. [1:06:58, 1:07:00]: Option number two. [1:07:00, 1:07:03]: has added Sunday voting from one PM [1:07:04, 1:07:06]: To five PM. [1:07:06, 1:07:07]: And one Saturday [1:07:08, 1:07:16]: And with voting hours on Saturday from eight A.M. to two PM, with one week of early voting at the Merrill Mandis Conference Center from seven AM to seven PM. [1:07:17, 1:07:31]: and the runoff being held at the Merrill Manders Conference Center from seven A.M. to seven PM. The adjustment to the Saturday Sunday hours increased by two hundred dollars and that new estimated cost is twenty one thousand seven hundred dollars. [1:07:32, 1:07:33]: Option two A. [1:07:34, 1:07:42]: has added a Sunday from one PM to five PM with one Saturday and with voting hours on Saturday from eight A. M. to two PM. [1:07:42, 1:07:47]: With one week of early voting at the Merrill Manders Conference Center from seven AM to seven PM [1:07:48, 1:07:53]: And the runoff being held at the Henry County elections office from seven A. M. to seven PM. [1:07:53, 1:08:01]: The adjusted cost for Saturday Sunday increased by two hundred dollars with a new estimated cost of seventeen thousand two hundred dollars. [1:08:04, 1:08:06]: Weekend voting on numbers. [1:08:07, 1:08:19]: that I received were a combination of voting at the Henry County Elections Office and Merrill Mandis Conference Center. The system was unable to break out what was the Merrill Mandis Conference Center and what was the Henry County Elections Office. [1:08:20, 1:08:36]: In twenty fourteen, countywide in general election for governor, there were one thousand two hundred and eighty nine weekend votes cast. There were no Sunday there was no Sunday voting in twenty fourteen. No Stockbridge el municipal election uh was held in twenty fourteen. [1:08:36, 1:08:43]: In twenty fifteen there was a municipal election, fifty six weekend votes cast, there was no Sunday voting. [1:08:43, 1:08:57]: In twenty sixteen municipal special election, county election and general election, there were three thousand nine hundred and three votes cast on Saturday and one thousand five hundred and twenty nine votes cast on Sunday. [1:09:01, 1:09:05]: There I'd be happy to an any questions that I can answer for you at this time. [1:09:09, 1:09:11]: Are there any um [1:09:12, 1:09:25]: comments about this. Uh I would like to ask the finance person uh in the room, Linda Neighbors, how much money was budgeted in our budget this year for this election? [1:09:27, 1:09:35]: Sixteen thousand. Okay, so if we were to go over that we have to identify some way to pay for that. [1:09:35, 1:09:36]: Is that correct? [1:09:37, 1:09:40]: have to come out of some other part of the budget. [1:09:40, 1:09:41]: All right. [1:09:42, 1:09:54]: All right. Any any comments before we have questions. Okay. Mm Mayor, if I may. Um when do we have to when is the debt absolute deadline to have to give you the of this [1:09:54, 1:10:14]: Well there's there is no app well the conference center events team is the one that needs to know because they would need to block off those dates in the event anyone wanted to rent the facility. Um so that's why we were trying to go ahead and get this knocked out so we know they know and when people call and make reservations they know that the dates are or are not available. [1:10:14, 1:10:15]: Okay. [1:10:15, 1:10:20]: Well, what it looks like to me is that we're gonna have to amend the budget regardless for this particular [1:10:21, 1:10:26]: item and I say that d to determine I understand what [1:10:26, 1:10:33]: They're gonna have to block it off a m mu from what I'm thinking, and this is just m me [1:10:35, 1:10:55]: I would be for us making sure that the runoff is held here at the Merrill Manders Conference Center. To me, it makes sense that it's local since it's a local election and it's in the the citizens are here. And so I do know that the I'm leaning more towards it being held at Merrill Manders Conference Center, period. [1:10:55, 1:11:12]: period. So the other two options for me are out in regards to that. But I think we are a little bit premature until we can I from my understanding we are gonna eventually amend our budget. We're waiting on a couple of things but we should be doing that soon hopefully. [1:11:12, 1:11:13]: So um um [1:11:14, 1:11:16]: Um maybe we could give them a heads up. [1:11:16, 1:11:19]: If everybody agrees to ha at least agree [1:11:19, 1:11:21]: that it will be held at Merrill Manders. [1:11:22, 1:11:25]: That would eliminate um one A. [1:11:28, 1:11:33]: It's option one and option two. And one A and two are eliminated. [1:11:35, 1:11:36]: Two A. [1:11:36, 1:11:37]: In two way. [1:11:39, 1:11:46]: So you're saying it would eliminate one A and two A. Is that correct? Is that what I heard you say? One A, two and two A. [1:11:46, 1:11:46]: Yeah. [1:11:46, 1:11:49]: No, one A and two A. Two has um [1:11:50, 1:11:52]: Is the Henry County Election Office for the um [1:11:54, 1:11:54]: Right now. [1:11:55, 1:11:58]: But I didn't consider that one because you all wanted to add a [1:11:59, 1:12:00]: Sunday. [1:12:00, 1:12:01]: So really. [1:12:02, 1:12:03]: Mayor Protein. I mean Mayor. [1:12:05, 1:12:05]: Yes. [1:12:06, 1:12:26]: I'm looking here, it says option one and two. Basically, um the only difference is is the Saturdays. Option one gives you two Saturdays and option two gives you one Saturday. So we've already um stated that at Merrill Manders, so those are the really the only two options, correct? That it's gonna be [1:12:26, 1:12:29]: [4350.1, 4362.8]: We will be eliminating one A because that's the um runoff elections at the Henry County elections office and you will be eliminating two A, which that's also has runoff at the Henry County Elections Office. Right. [1:12:43, 1:12:43]: Okay. [1:12:43, 1:13:00]: Question for Tim Ford. Actually what it is is that I'm I think option one is the best uh best option. It gives you two Saturdays that one Sunday and if there's a runoff it's locally in rural manners. So at this point, Mayor, if you don't mind, I'd like to make a motion that we adopt option one. I second. [1:13:01, 1:13:06]: Have a motion and a second discussion. Any discussion? Yes. [1:13:06, 1:13:08]: All right. Councilman Blount. [1:13:08, 1:13:13]: My c concern on here is that when we have these voting on the off [1:13:14, 1:13:26]: When they have the general election years versus special elec well, not special uh our city election uh terms, because you went from th over thirty nine hundred votes on the Saturdays. [1:13:27, 1:13:30]: to in twenty fifteen, even when I ran [1:13:31, 1:13:34]: You got fifty six votes that was voted on on the Saturday. [1:13:35, 1:13:39]: So we don't have anything showing that opening up on a Saturday and Sunday. [1:13:40, 1:13:41]: gonna increase the votes. [1:13:42, 1:13:43]: Or do we? [1:13:43, 1:13:44]: We do not. [1:13:45, 1:13:45]: [4426.0, 4438.0]: And there is a seven thousand five hundred dollar difference in the amount of money between what we have budgeted and what it would take for option number one, just so the public will know that. [1:13:58, 1:14:00]: Okay. Uh councilman. [1:14:01, 1:14:02]: This is a [1:14:02, 1:14:16]: central t to what we do uh as Americans. And I wanna do everything that I possibly can not to disenfranchise voters and to give voters every opportunity to vote. So I'm in favor. [1:14:17, 1:14:28]: Madam Mayor, if I may. Councilman Gantt. I'm all for either option one or two. That that doesn't matter to me. Um more so than [1:14:29, 1:14:49]: us voting today so long as they the we're doing it because you're saying that the people over in Merrmanders, our staff, needs to block off certain time period. I think we have a consensus that we all agree that we want the voting to take place at Merrmanders so it should be blocked off. [1:14:49, 1:14:53]: I think it would be premature for us to vote right now. We haven't amended our budget. [1:14:54, 1:14:55]: Um [1:14:55, 1:15:05]: I would ask that we hold off on we know that we're gonna pick one of those and we know it's gonna take place. I think we should hold off until we amend our budget. [1:15:07, 1:15:23]: Uh yes, part temperature. Appreciate it. This will be uh to the point. Uh agree with the fact that uh there's a motion has been seconded. The fact that if we if we approve tonight, the amendment can actually go through the next time we get together and vote on it. It's it's no adjustment. We can make an amendment at any time to do this. It's not gonna happen until [1:15:24, 1:15:38]: Uh what August November, excuse me. It happens in late October, I'm sorry, right? When when we o the elections of early voting starts in October. So I mean do it now and get it done. That's the way it's well there is a motion on the floor that's been seconded. But anyway. Uh [1:15:38, 1:15:46]: Okay, there's a motion on the floor for option one. Um we have one more comment before we vote. [1:15:46, 1:15:49]: Let me let me clarify something if it wasn't clear. [1:15:50, 1:16:10]: I'll just ask for stats. I'm not running for a reelection this year. So I I do yield to uh my two colleagues that will be running, uh will have those responsibilities and I do yield to the citizens to have the opportunity to vote and to get out as much as they can for the citizens that the representation [1:16:10, 1:16:21]: of their city is really uh the representation that they want and that they have the opportunity to do that. And so whatever's open for that, I'm not sitting here as a blocker, I'm sitting here to get understanding. [1:16:22, 1:16:32]: Okay, we have a motion on the floor to accept uh option number one, twenty three thousand five hundred dollars for uh voting at the Merlmander Center. [1:16:33, 1:16:38]: Have a second? We have a second. All right. All in favor? [1:16:40, 1:16:42]: Okay? [1:16:44, 1:16:49]: Okay? Um so be it. Thank you. [1:16:56, 1:17:01]: Okay, the next thing on our agenda will be um [1:17:01, 1:17:09]: to approve the use of the Merrill Manders Conference Centre for a nonprofit mixer and that will be presented by Councilwoman Gantt. [1:17:10, 1:17:30]: Um yes, very briefly. Um I've done this for two years now. It is a nonprofit mixer for all um nonprofits and uh to include church organizations as well as any organizations in our area. Um we target mainly Stockbridge in Henry County. It gives us nice [1:17:30, 1:17:50]: opportunity to mix and mingle. There have been relationships that have developed since then. Last year we had a grant a couple of grant writers to come in to talk to those nonprofits about how to get certain grants and what to look for and what red flags and what to what questions to ask. And this time we [1:17:50, 1:18:05]: We would of course ask the same thing um for the use of the Merrill Manders Conference Center to have that mix and mingle. Um we have refreshments, we'll include a little bit uh a different twist of it this year and also include the public. [1:18:06, 1:18:07]: Yeah, near. [1:18:07, 1:18:16]: Yes. Councilman Boyne. I move that we approve the uh use of the borough managed conference center for the nonprofit mixer to be held on April nineteenth, twenty seventeen. [1:18:17, 1:18:18]: I second. [1:18:19, 1:18:27]: Okay, we have a a motion by Councilman Blount and a second by Councilman Gantt. Do we have a uh any discussion at this point? [1:18:31, 1:18:34]: Could I just ask a question? How many people normally attend this? [1:18:35, 1:18:46]: Um last year I think the attendance was lower than the first year's attendance. And I can't re Vanessa, do you remember how many we had the years before? [1:18:50, 1:18:51]: So maybe half that. [1:18:52, 1:18:54]: Yeah. Okay, thank you. [1:18:55, 1:18:56]: Mayor Neal. [1:18:56, 1:18:59]: All right, we have a motion in a second. Any other comments? [1:19:00, 1:19:10]: I just want to make a comment. Um it's normally held at the lower end of the Merrill Mander Center and it it's normally uh it's r it's a real nice event. Yeah, yeah. [1:19:10, 1:19:23]: Well no, we had it uh upstairs and downstairs. But the l last normally it's upstairs. Last time we have the entire building and this year we're just gonna do upstairs. We're not doing downstairs at all. Okay. We're just gonna convert over. [1:19:24, 1:19:25]: Right, thank you. [1:19:26, 1:19:32]: We have a motion and we have a second and we've identified that this is going to be upstairs only, Mermander Center. [1:19:32, 1:19:37]: And um at this time no further discussion. All in favor? [1:19:39, 1:19:43]: Opposed. Don't think so. Thank you so much. We'll move on to [1:19:43, 1:19:45]: Item number thirteen. [1:19:45, 1:19:55]: Um Councilman Alexander would like to talk to us about the propo uh proposed budget amendment for fiber optic connection. [1:19:55, 1:20:00]: And I'm assuming he has a presentation about fiber optic, if you would, please. [1:20:02, 1:20:05]: Uh yes, ladies and gentlemen. I think that um [1:20:06, 1:20:12]: We're trying to be a progressive city to compete at the very highest level. [1:20:12, 1:20:19]: uh in Metro Atlanta. We adopted a vision statement that says that we wanted to be the best [1:20:19, 1:20:20]: In Metro Atlanta. [1:20:21, 1:20:25]: Uh right now it's g uh is a is a time [1:20:25, 1:20:28]: Where some cities are gonna move ahead. [1:20:29, 1:20:31]: And some cities are gonna be left behind. [1:20:32, 1:20:36]: The cities that invest in infrastructure and technology [1:20:36, 1:20:38]: Those cities are gonna move ahead. [1:20:38, 1:20:40]: Into the new economy. [1:20:40, 1:20:45]: Those cities that do not and drag their feet are going to be left behind. [1:20:46, 1:21:03]: You know, we've been working and talking with different industries. We were at the uh Henry Chamber uh the other night at the banquet and there was a discussion about incubator coming uh to Henry County and developing and pursuing professional and technology jobs here. [1:21:04, 1:21:24]: In order for the city of Startbridge to be prepared at its very best, we need to have fiber optic connectivity to all city buildings. We had it uh in the budget uh last year for twenty sixteen uh enable us to do so to be able to provide uh the very best [1:21:24, 1:21:39]: to business and industry and our city facilities in terms of let's say uh we're using Merrill Manders Conference Center and believe it, we're competing. Meryl Manders is not making money uh at this t at this time. [1:21:40, 1:22:00]: But at the same time we have fiber optic connectivity to it and we could deli do z deliver higher internet speeds, p potentially gigabit speeds to uh the business community. Instead of choosing the moral center, they might choose Merrill Manders. Instead of choosing [1:22:00, 1:22:03]: center in Hateville, they might choose the city of Stockbridge. [1:22:04, 1:22:06]: It is a win win for all of us. [1:22:06, 1:22:13]: Our students, uh, you know, at the library, at city facilities, all around us. They're there. [1:22:14, 1:22:26]: We had a uh what we have a a very good proposal last year, uh in terms of investing those facilities. The school board has actually uh been uh leading the way. [1:22:26, 1:22:37]: uh connecting every school uh in our community to uh high to fiber optics and high speed broadband with AT and T. [1:22:38, 1:22:44]: The city has not moved forward with that effort. We have identified funding. [1:22:44, 1:22:58]: coming with um you know potential sales of uh city assets and properties that could be very well put toward this. The city currently now has uh at our last um [1:22:58, 1:23:12]: uh audit we had uh nearly eight point seven million dollars in reserves. Uh my proposal were to have us advance the three hundred and fifty thousand dollar investment to um [1:23:12, 1:23:24]: Go ahead and move forward with fiber optic connectivity for all city facilities, including City Hall, meeting spaces, all of our facilities. [1:23:24, 1:23:25]: We could do that. [1:23:25, 1:23:36]: Once uh we were in a position where we moved forward with uh liquidating some of these assets that have been on the count that are on the city books through um [1:23:36, 1:23:56]: DDA acquisitions in the past and what have you, those funds will be available for us to use uh to replenish those assets. Again, it is very important to realize where the city of Stockbridge is. The Georgian Municipal Association recommends that we have twenty five percent in reserve funds [1:23:56, 1:23:59]: reserved for a rainy day for the city. [1:23:59, 1:24:16]: The county has a twenty five percent threshold that they maintain and they've been making aggressive investments in terms of improving uh infrastructure in the city and new development. That's how they're funding a lot of their new projects. If [1:24:16, 1:24:20]: we move ahead. Our fund balance right now [1:24:20, 1:24:24]: is nearly one full year at eighty seven percent. [1:24:24, 1:24:30]: The recommendation by the training agency says that we should be at twenty five percent. [1:24:30, 1:24:42]: Should we use the t three hundred and fifty thousand dollars to move ahead when investing in technology uh for our children and to improve um our competitiveness [1:24:42, 1:24:52]: That will simply take us down to probably about an eighty percent reserve or somewhere in a eighty to seventy five percent reserve. Not very much change at all. [1:24:53, 1:25:05]: But look at the upside in terms of competition. We already know that we have uh Google Fiverr uh being uh completed and Hateville and cities like as such. [1:25:05, 1:25:07]: If we want to compete [1:25:07, 1:25:09]: At the highest level. [1:25:09, 1:25:16]: We've got to start preparing ourselves and and for the technological world to come and this helps us get underway. [1:25:17, 1:25:34]: Um I would like to see maybe if the city manager might be able to say a few words maybe about the proposal that we had uh as we talked about it last year. That was one of the uh recommendations that we uh we originally had and but uh we chose not to take it out of reserve. [1:25:36, 1:25:56]: Yeah, the uh our IT consultant, Liberty Technology, did a presentation to the council um detailing what it would entail. Um now this considers uh kind of you know us running the line and and having ownership of the line. Um there are other options that certainly do exist out there, some that we [1:25:56, 1:26:16]: we have uh previously explored. Um there have been some questions that have been posed to me recently about um what the difference in in cost would be from going with the uh Comcash ATT chart any one of the other or Google or any one of the other ones um and what that would mean, what that would look like. This was the option that [1:26:16, 1:26:36]: we discuss I discussed with the um consultant probably a year, year plus ago on that they came back with as far as what they recommended recommended for and what they felt was the best option for the city at that point. But certainly in fact I was looking through I received an email today from GMA and they're actually hosting a webinar later next week [1:26:36, 1:26:56]: on what cities need to know about um on fiber connectivity. And it does give you a comparison of Google Fiber versus Comcast, ATT, Verizon, and the advantages and disadvantage of having your own line in in place as well. So that's some of the information I've been kind of asked to kind of look into and to have [1:26:56, 1:26:57]: [5217.4, 5221.3]: Um I again when we went through the budget this was certainly an item that was identified [1:27:01, 1:27:21]: by council, I certainly staff recommends, you know, at at some point that we do need to move in this direction as well as moving forward with our disaster recovery efforts, which is a separate item altogether. So um the thought being that if if and when the council is ready to make this step, then we do all that at one time. Just a matter of at the council's discretion as far as when we need to [1:27:21, 1:27:22]: move forward with it. [1:27:23, 1:27:24]: Yeah. [1:27:24, 1:27:26]: Yes. Do you have a comment? Yes. Okay. [1:27:27, 1:27:33]: Um, I would like for that to go forward with whatever uh those uh other options that [1:27:33, 1:27:37]: or on the table. But one of the things we also want to make clear is that there was uh [1:27:38, 1:27:39]: They're also identifiable. [1:27:40, 1:27:49]: uh amendments that are that are going to happen with the budget and uh what what you bring us uh as far as the information for as the uh [1:27:50, 1:27:55]: fiber optic information along with some other items that had uh already uh been identified. [1:27:56, 1:28:15]: I would like for this council to go ahead with your information and formulate the other ideas that we had talked about moving ahead with to not continue to come back amend, amend, amend, but we do what we have to do to go ahead and move these uh um what we had already re previously talked about, just go ahead and move it at one point. [1:28:15, 1:28:20]: we talked about to go ahead and move it forward with uh sitting down with our treasurer to uh [1:28:21, 1:28:41]: uh show us where we're gonna be at with the budget, what's gonna come out of the budget, and that whatever we had already previously talked about as a council, knowing that we was gonna have to first of all balance our budget, but we knew we were gonna have to further uh do further uh uh pulling for fund balance to uh to um uh move forward on [1:28:41, 1:28:46]: some things that we hear about already talked about, so I'm willing to wait on you to uh have that discussion. [1:28:47, 1:28:48]: Other comments? [1:28:48, 1:28:54]: Yes, thank you, Mayor. Appreciate it. No, Mike, what I'm really thinking Mike and Council, what I'm really thinking about is that these um [1:28:55, 1:29:15]: You we need like feasibility study. We need to have uh several different options so we need to get the best bang for our dollar here and what and what makes what's the best item or uh product we can have. I understand that Liberty gave us some input but there may be something better with ATT or Comcast and uh we need to look at all that. It may not cost three hundred fifty thousand dollars, it may cost less. [1:29:14, 1:29:25]: uh less than that and may give us more advantages here or there. I think we need to have those type of things before you actually make the decision. Without a doubt I'm for this, just want to make sure we get the best product [1:29:25, 1:29:29]: currently and we have a some c something to compare it to in a sense. [1:29:29, 1:29:49]: That's what I that's what I would appreciate. Yeah, and and I will reach back out with um you know, Liberty did it was kind of uh time was was was somewhat condensed at the retreat um last year, but so they had them come back in and they'd be happy to walk through the process again and why their recommendation is what their recommendation is. Um and and and give you some of the pros and [1:29:49, 1:30:06]: and cons uh as far as that's that's what that's what they're there for to kind of help guide us in the process. And like I said, I think everyone's fully sub supportive of us moving forward with this initiative. Just want to make sure we have again the comments that I've been receiving is want to make sure we have all the information, all the pertinent information [1:30:06, 1:30:10]: um to move forward with it. I'd like to make a comment too about this. Um [1:30:11, 1:30:21]: I don't think there's anyone up on the s dias that is opposed to this idea. It's just a matter of making sure that we go forward at the right time. Um [1:30:21, 1:30:33]: uh one one of the things I recall from a Council for quality growth meeting um m eighteen months ago or something like that, the uh president of um AT and T Georgia [1:30:34, 1:30:54]: who happened to be a graduate of Stockbridge High School. She's moved up the chain further up in AT and T, but at that time she made the statement that the technology is changing so fast that even a company with as deep pockets as ATT it changes so quickly before they can uh make a plan. [1:30:54, 1:31:14]: plan it's something else better has come out. So uh I think what we might do if if everybody um wants to think along this line is to get all of the players in, let's listen to them as a group, find out what's out in the marketplace, what we can do and [1:31:14, 1:31:26]: And keeping in mind that we would have to make a budget amendment and we somewhat have agreed in um previous meetings most recently that we would get in our [1:31:26, 1:31:27]: City. [1:31:27, 1:31:43]: town hall meetings, quarterly financial updates. So if the funds are coming in faster or more than we had anticipated, we know what kind of budget amendments we can make without dipping into city reserve funds. [1:31:43, 1:32:03]: So I would like to encourage the council to, yes, let's look into this and if we're going to get serious with it, let's get everybody in the fiber optic business to bring us up to date and then listen to our quarterly financials and see if we can move it forward as quickly as possible. [1:32:04, 1:32:05]: Mayor. [1:32:05, 1:32:25]: Uh have a question? Thank you. I just want to hopefully we can have a time frame because we talked about this last year and then when we're saying we want to you know to get on it, hopefully th it'll be this year. That you know I just don't wanna to keep delaying, delaying when we've already [1:32:25, 1:32:31]: already did this at our retreat and said that we wanted to move forward. So that's what I wanna say. [1:32:31, 1:32:43]: Any other comments? Mr. City Man yes, Mr City Manager, can we have a date if we do,'cause it seems like there's a will of the council, a date specific. [1:32:43, 1:32:51]: for you to bring this back to the council so it's not punted and we we move forward with it in a in the way. [1:32:52, 1:32:56]: Hickville already has Google Fiber. So does College Park. [1:32:56, 1:32:58]: We're behind already. [1:32:59, 1:33:11]: We're we're a decade behind North Metro. We have no time to lose, zero. So what date and time can we address this? Have those options on the table to vote? [1:33:11, 1:33:12]: Again it [1:33:13, 1:33:30]: Some of that may be dependent upon the availability of the council. If the council wants a overview from different companies, then that would a lot of we can we can begin setting those up as early as this week or next week. Um I I would likely recommend bringing our IT consultant in first [1:33:30, 1:33:48]: um to sit down with council and give an overview from their perspective. I think that would be the the wisest thing to do and then from there look at bringing in the other the other players. Because the process will take I you know even what we're proposing, it's about an eight, nine month process going through engineering the project and design and things that everything that goes into it. [1:33:49, 1:33:49]: Um [1:33:50, 1:33:54]: So certainly getting started this year is is is I think is absolutely feasible. [1:33:54, 1:34:14]: Um but again if that's the council's desire to get more information on this topic and speak with again I would recommend first starting with our consultant and then moving out to other private sector um entities and we can certainly begin scheduling those meetings as soon as possible. We talk about April, we talk about March, when we can come back and [1:34:14, 1:34:21]: actually make a decision because what you just said is when we make the decision we're still looking at eight or nine more months. [1:34:22, 1:34:23]: A process. [1:34:24, 1:34:27]: Louis, tick, tick, tick, tick, time. [1:34:28, 1:34:48]: Right. You know, and again that would take us to the end of the first quarter as well. Um and you know, if decision can be made sooner than that at the council's discretion, that's certainly a possibility, but we can begin we again I believe we could probably set up a meeting, arrange our consultant to meet with the council members beginning this week. Um and then from there um [1:34:48, 1:35:00]: Um the next step would be if you want to meet with some of the other um potential carriers to see what options that they may be able to afford and then as soon as that's done we can bring it back and make a final form formal decision regarding the budget amendment. [1:35:01, 1:35:01]: Oh. [1:35:01, 1:35:21]: Thank you, Mayor. Appreciate it. So otherwise if I understand it right, we can get Liberty Tech maybe in the next week or two or prior to our our next working session, set on sit down with individual council members to talk about procedures and costs and concepts, I guess you'd say. So if we get a concept between now and the work session and then after have that discussion and maybe after the work session look at [1:35:21, 1:35:41]: uh a time frame to get other companies in to potentially uh present some things uh for us to to think about. Um which maybe it could happen in a month, six weeks, something like that, with the time frame to get several companies in. Because if we even even if we approved this three hundred and fifty thousand dollars a night, we couldn't do anything with it because we don't know exactly [1:35:41, 1:35:50]: how we're gonna utilize and structure. Our fiber office yes, but we have to still pick a uh organization, a company to to lay it down which we haven't had any conversation with. Is that correct? [1:35:51, 1:35:52]: That that that's correct. [1:35:52, 1:35:54]: And again I I do want to note [1:35:55, 1:35:56]: The [1:35:56, 1:36:16]: The first time we we never had money, we've been talking about it for a while, you're right, but the first time we had money set aside specifically for this purpose or identified was at the end of last year's budget. Okay. And while it was identified, it wasn't included in the budget. I think the consensus was certainly because we've done such a good job with austerity measures and financial [1:36:16, 1:36:35]: constraints and been able to build our coffers up that you know we've set ourselves in a good position to be able to utilize some of those um fund balance savings for a project just like this, which I think this sets up ideally for. Um but again I i it it's just a matter of yeah talking to them and then flushing out the details with some of the other carriers. [1:36:35, 1:36:38]: And seeing what they would have to offer and making sure we have an apples to apples comparison. [1:36:38, 1:36:40]: [5800.6, 5801.8]: One last question. [1:36:42, 1:37:00]: I guess I wanna ask the question, so if we've already had the discussion on several of these items, does that mean if we change, you know, did the budget restraint, does that mean that it's just put on hold? We're not still trying to get all the key players together to try to bring something back to us? I mean does it just die? [1:37:01, 1:37:05]: Does everything just die b if it if we took it out of the budget last year? [1:37:06, 1:37:12]: So just say like with this. We st we started last year and we stated this is something that we wanted to do. [1:37:13, 1:37:18]: So did it just die or you still were you still working with key players? [1:37:18, 1:37:24]: To say this is what we're you know, a possibility that's still for the city. [1:37:25, 1:37:39]: formally moved forward by the council. I mean the council could have done a budget amendment last year had that been the council's desire to get it started with it last year. It just hadn't moved to that point. You know, last year when we had the retreat, they did the presentation, we were sitting down with them and going through a [1:37:40, 1:38:00]: uh a phased approach of you know a lot of that when they first came in they just they've been on board for one year now our our consultant and when they initially came on they were initially tasked with here are some of the things we want to work on. Um disaster recovery being one of the the first ones. We took a number of steps in that area already to start that process so that is up and going. We had money budgeted [1:37:59, 1:38:19]: we're able to set some money aside for that far less of an expense. Um the phase two, the big portion, is about one hundred and fifty thousand estimated. So that has also that's currently not in the budget. We anticipate use utilizing fund balance for that as well. So they came back in the I believe it was a retreat in August and did the formal presentation of this is how we [1:38:19, 1:38:30]: envisioned this is our recommendation of the best steps, the best method of being able to move forward with it and identifying that was the first time we actually had some hard, fast numbers associated with an estimate. [1:38:31, 1:38:32]: Thank you. [1:38:32, 1:38:35]: Okay. Is there any more discussion? [1:38:36, 1:38:45]: All right, you wanna make a motion? I'd like to make a motion to table this and bring it back in exactly sixty days. [1:38:45, 1:38:57]: to give uh the city manager uh a chance to work this work through this process. But sixty days from today we want it back at the council so we can vote. [1:38:58, 1:38:59]: I'll second that. [1:38:59, 1:39:06]: Okay, we have a motion and a second to table this item until the due diligence work can be done by the city manager. [1:39:06, 1:39:15]: And to bring it back in sixty days or as close to sixty days as our meeting occurs. Is that okay to add to your worship? Okay. [1:39:15, 1:39:17]: All right. And uh do you [1:39:17, 1:39:20]: I've heard a motion and I've heard a second. [1:39:20, 1:39:21]: Is there discussion? [1:39:22, 1:39:25]: Yes, really quick. Okay. Um [1:39:25, 1:39:26]: Councilman Blight. [1:39:27, 1:39:31]: In in uh this in the proposal here for sixty days [1:39:32, 1:39:40]: Will we also be able to come together prior to that to identify other areas that we talked about? I d I don't want to c us uh men [1:39:41, 1:40:01]: uh stagment a man sta when we have already identified some areas. Will we be able to come together as a council d before that sixty days because I want us to go ahead and move forward with the areas we've already identified uh that we need to start to move on and work on. Uh even some of the projects that we've talked about [1:40:01, 1:40:02]: Um [1:40:02, 1:40:12]: that I don't even want to get into that. But I would like in that sixty days those items that we have already identified to also kinda kinda come to the table where we could um [1:40:12, 1:40:13]: kind of take a look at [1:40:14, 1:40:15]: If that's possible. [1:40:16, 1:40:25]: And and and and and and and in in all deference to the to the council, I I do wanna we just came back from a uh retreat and we have a number of priority projects. [1:40:25, 1:40:36]: Um we have two vacant critical vacant staff positions that we're in the process of trying to fill now. Obviously once those are filled they would carry a lot of the load for this. [1:40:37, 1:40:57]: So part of the challenge from my perspective is being able to prioritize how projects are getting done and which ones are of top priority from the council's perspective. Um so that's some of the input I need back from the council because in reality I mean we can do but so much I think that's that was one of the challenges we had quite frankly last year, trying to do so [1:40:57, 1:41:17]: So many things and not being able to get things accomplished because we had just had too many things on the plate. So being able to identify exactly what the key priorities are and again we talked about the scorecarding process, that's what that process is for. Um to be able to make sure we're staying accountable on what these what what what are the top priorities. [1:41:17, 1:41:37]: If everything becomes a priority and then trying to whittle down and and make sure we're advancing those projects in a timely manner, that becomes part of the challenge certainly. [1:41:37, 1:41:38]: May not be [1:41:38, 1:41:40]: Where your expertise may even be in. [1:41:41, 1:41:46]: uh in the positions that we're hiring in. So just be mindful that we do have those two positions in common. [1:41:46, 1:41:48]: uh in this sixty day time frame. [1:41:51, 1:41:57]: Okay, we have a motion to table this item. We have a motion and a second. [1:41:58, 1:42:01]: No further discussion, all in favor to table? [1:42:03, 1:42:04]: [6126.5, 6128.3]: No opposed votes there. [1:42:08, 1:42:18]: Okay, the next thing we're gonna take up is a discussion for a community improvement district. We won't be voting on this, we'll just be discussing it. [1:42:18, 1:42:38]: And that will be brought to us by Councilwoman Robinson. Yes, thank you, Mayor Neal. I wanted to bring this back. Um this was another item that was on our list that we had for discussion. Um we had a town hall and we did a resolution on last year. I just wanted to bring forth to the council some more information that we [1:42:38, 1:42:58]: We have some more um key players that are involved and also um a little more information that our city manager is gonna um obtain for us once he brings it back. And the reason being is with the rebranding that we're doing um through our Main Street program, we've just had the uh [1:42:58, 1:43:18]: um express lanes to come um on I seventy five. So with our rebranding that goes to show that right there at our 138 corridor, um this is for our community improvement district. So when people are actually on 675 um in the 138 corridor, they'll be able to see the direction of [1:43:18, 1:43:38]: of coming to Stockbridge. So if we're rebranding and doing things for our downtown, our Main Street, this is something that is very important that we just need to look um heavily at. But in order to do that, um Clayton County is um they were at our town hall and they are also have a uh big key players in this [1:43:38, 1:43:58]: However, um Stockbridge is just gonna have to step out um and try to get with Nickelworks and do the study formation study um and but Michael is gonna get you know, get a little more details to uh bring back to us to see if there what type of funding it's gonna entail. But I did [1:43:58, 1:44:00]: [6241.5, 6259.1]: She's gonna come up, Miss Vivian is gonna come up and she's on the part of the steering committee with our with our one Henry um program initiative that we have now in Henry County. So she's gonna um advise the council their piece so that way you'll be fully informed on what the one Henry has. [1:44:20, 1:44:24]: Could you give us your full name and address and everything for the record? Yes. [1:44:24, 1:44:28]: My name is Vivian Angela Thomas. My address is one oh seven [1:44:28, 1:44:30]: Bayberry Hills, McDonough, Georgia. [1:44:31, 1:44:32]: three oh two five three. [1:44:33, 1:44:35]: And I hope I don't hit any of these keys here. [1:44:36, 1:44:37]: I'll hold it up here. [1:44:39, 1:44:49]: I want to uh thank the Mayor, Mayor Neal and the Council for allowing me to speak today and I really want to thank Councilwoman Anit Robertson for bringing this back to you all's attention. [1:44:50, 1:45:01]: Uh C that CIDs are very, very important structures that are used by many counties and cities to help with their economic structure, to help with their infrastructure and help with unification. [1:45:01, 1:45:21]: We do have interested parties that are willing to work with this CID that we're proposing. Henry County has one active CID, but it's going toward the south end of the county. Now we want to make sure that the northeast northern end of the county, which is the 138 quarter, and now we have people interested in the Hudson. [1:45:21, 1:45:41]: Some bridge areas will that want to participate in this CID. What we've done so far, and I have been working with the one Henry, and I have been charged with putting together information to determine how far we can go with this this time. And I think this was a very good time for me to come up because after hearing you talk about your uh fiber oxygen. [1:45:41, 1:45:48]: optics, something we desperately need and hopefully you will consider to attract more businesses here. [1:45:49, 1:46:09]: What we've done so far, I met with Neat Robinson, Councilman Neat Robinson and um Michael Harris in reference to work that was done prior to me. And there was a group working prior to me, and they were part of that group in this discussion, looking at the feasibility of it, trying to see what stakeholders are willing to participate, because we're looking for a proper [1:46:09, 1:46:29]: property owners, at least fifty percent plus in the impacted areas, to participate. When they participate, it's like a self imposed tax that they put upon themselves to add to the beautification of the area, to add to the infrastructure again, to add to the green space to attract more people to stop in the area, to [1:46:29, 1:46:42]: to spend more money in the area. So that's what a CID does. In the state of Georgia, we have several people who've already done this. You know about in the Cumberland area. We also know about in the downtown community improvement districts. [1:46:42, 1:47:02]: Uh Gwinnett has an active CID and Fulton County. We also know that College Park now is willing to look has the CID active, but Clay County wants to know who's interested on this part because they want to work with us from the one thirty eight corridor. So now we have two counties who complement each other, who could possibly put money into the [1:47:02, 1:47:22]: whole game to make this happen. Another positive on our behalf, we have now two progressive council persons. One would be Council mean Commissioner Bruce Holmes, and I said counsel, I meant commissioners, Commissioner Bruce Holmes and Commissioner D. Clements, who are part of the Stockbridge area. Now [1:47:22, 1:47:42]: Now they have not made a commitment, but I think we can talk to them at least about it, trying to help them commit some funding to this. As council person Neek Robinson has said, we need a lead partner. We need someone to say, Let's step up and make this happen. We need feasibility studies to take place. We need to talk to the Nichols group and talk about what can they do? [1:47:42, 1:48:02]: Do to help us move it forward. We don't want it to start the conversation, have it die again. We need to go through the whole process of entertaining and talking to the business owners, finding all the stakeholders, finding all the political people interested in it. Stock bridge should not be left in the coal again. [1:48:02, 1:48:05]: We should not be falling behind Hateville. [1:48:05, 1:48:10]: We should not be falling behind College Park. It just shouldn shouldn't happen. We're in Henry County. [1:48:11, 1:48:23]: We shouldn't be trying to determine when we're going to have the Googles come to us. We should have them fighting coming to us. We should not be sitting back trying to decide what communication piece needs to come next. We should know ahead of time. [1:48:24, 1:48:33]: That's planning. We should not be looking at other counties like Cobb County and Gwinnett County and saying, We want to be like that. We can be like that. [1:48:33, 1:48:53]: We have the dollars here in Henry County, we have the educational base here in Henry County, we have the capabilities here in Henry County, we have the land span here in Henry County. There is no excuse for us not to be competing with the Gunettes, with the apparatus, with the cob counties. We're just a little bit slow. [1:48:53, 1:48:55]: And we need to change there. [1:48:55, 1:49:15]: We can change that with uh doing our feasibility studies. We can change that by adjusting our budgets, we can change that by going ahead and making some type of commitment to make it happen. And that's what I wanted to talk to you about tonight, to make that commitment, to talk about what you can do to draw people to be more [1:49:16, 1:49:19]: committed to seeing this CID come to fluration. [1:49:20, 1:49:22]: And I'll be glad to answer any questions. [1:49:24, 1:49:30]: Yes. I just want to say thank you. Can I say Amen? Well thank you. [1:49:31, 1:49:51]: I appreciate what you brought forward and uh so w w we we we get some numbers that we can take a look at uh for nickel works. I'm on board so we can move forward. Well I want to say that uh your city manager's been so helpful. He helped us to identify what type of businesses are here, where they are, how [1:49:51, 1:49:52]: How to locate them? [1:49:52, 1:49:55]: how to address them. So we'll be moving forward with that. [1:49:55, 1:50:15]: We were very uh grateful to get the information from Councilwoman Nee Robertson and getting the maps that are proposed areas and the overlays and the possibilities. We also was able to get the contacts in Clayton County, knowing who to talk to and let in, to see what they're willing to commit to make it happen as well. So the process is taking place. [1:50:15, 1:50:23]: What I need is for you all to say it can happen, we can make it happen and make a commitment from Stockbridge to the CID process. [1:50:24, 1:50:27]: Ms. Thomas, if you when is the next one Henry meeting? [1:50:28, 1:50:38]: It's normally now the group that I am in, you know, they're different committees. Okay. Are you part of the C I D? Are you dealing with when d when do you think the first Thursday of every month? [1:50:39, 1:50:40]: Three o'clock. [1:50:41, 1:50:42]: at the heritage bank. [1:50:45, 1:50:48]: Now there is a steering committee that would be looking at the funding of this whole process. [1:50:49, 1:50:58]: And um Councilwoman Robinson is a part of that steering committee. So you have a voice there that can watch the process of learning how we would get additional funding to make it happen. [1:50:59, 1:51:19]: Yes. Councilman Blount. With that corridor and the in and out of the county city and so we've already started the process of the intergovernment agreements with them pertaining to the uh CID? The paperwork itself has not taken place. The process, the investigation, locating the stakeholders, [1:51:19, 1:51:33]: uh putting together the list of the companies that will be involved. That process has taken place. When we get to the point where different facets of the government can say we're in with this, then we can bring in those stakeholders and have some type of [1:51:33, 1:51:40]: uh one on one business to business breakfast or luncheon. Educate them on the whole process because this is a self imposed tax. [1:51:40, 1:51:42]: We need them to agree to that. [1:51:42, 1:51:59]: So when you said Clayton County, I'm saying what role right now in Clayton County have we talked to you about pertaining to that? Because we share that area uh, you know, off of seventy five, we want to make sure that both ends of seventy five are have the advantage of some type of beautification. [1:51:59, 1:52:19]: You understand what I'm saying? But I understand but I'm saying you when you said Clayton County has their you you almost like they're ready and on board. I'm just trying to figure out in what capacity because we still have to work on an intergovernmental agreement with them because of the absolute area. They've identified a point person, they've identified their just like us, we w they've identified the business owners. [1:52:20, 1:52:36]: they've identified the process of going through and completing everything. Uh I think the whole goal is before going to the next step, we want to give that same commitment over here. So one side of the seventy five corridor won't be pink and one side be purple, you know, that type of thing. [1:52:36, 1:52:39]: So they're they've not moved any farther than where we are right now. [1:52:39, 1:52:59]: Here, I I'm I'm I'm for it. Uh I I never came against it before. I just wanted to move the way we're supposed to move with it. Uh I think uh Councilwoman Robinson, whatever connection she's doing with you and whatever you all are doing, if we can get those identifiable areas with the intergovernment agreement to move the C I D forward. Well you know one advantage is that Clayton County doesn't [1:52:59, 1:53:07]: does have a C I D in College Park which they did with the airport, which is producing quite well. So they know the process [1:53:07, 1:53:12]: And in that perspective they know they're committed'cause they've done one already. [1:53:13, 1:53:14]: We just need to get our part. [1:53:15, 1:53:18]: Correct and then say we're ready and they're ready to talk with us. [1:53:18, 1:53:20]: Okay, thank you. [1:53:21, 1:53:41]: One other comment. They're actually working on one for the South Lake area too, isn't that correct? The one for the South Lake Mall area, so they've gotten one down which is the airport, I think, South C I D and they share one I think uh with Fulton. But at the same time, you know they're they're identifying these C I D's moving [1:53:40, 1:54:00]: Moving ahead with them so they have a headwind. We just like you said, we need to move, correct? We need to move. We have to understand where we're located. We're located right off of seventy five. And we have to understand that Here we County at one time was identified as like the sixth fastest growing county in the nation. We just have to identify who we are. And I think Here we County is not identified [1:54:00, 1:54:12]: about who we are and how much of a player we are when it comes down to economy. We we kinda stand back and let other people build their things and go, look at what they're doing and we can do the same thing. [1:54:13, 1:54:17]: And we need the largest city in Henry County to make that commitment for us and lead the way. [1:54:19, 1:54:33]: Okay, any other uh points of discussion on the city. Thank you, uh Ms. Thomas. Also wanted to give the city manager an opportunity to speak so that way he can um give his piece what he has so far. [1:54:37, 1:54:47]: as noted, uh met with Councilwoman Robinson and and um Miss Vivian um to kinda go through the process of what they're trying to do. Um [1:54:49, 1:55:00]: We'll be reaching out. We're notified that there is there was a draft uh document that was done uh previously um for some of these areas in questions, so we're gonna reach out to them and find out. [1:55:00, 1:55:01]: With the consultant that did that. [1:55:02, 1:55:05]: uh did that work and find out what's on what's stated on there. [1:55:05, 1:55:06]: Um [1:55:07, 1:55:11]: and seeing what opportunities'cause again at some point what Councilman Brom said asked about was [1:55:12, 1:55:14]: Um the city's willingness to fund [1:55:14, 1:55:16]: part of the study to move forward with this. [1:55:17, 1:55:20]: initiatives. That's something we'd have to discuss with the council members to see where they [1:55:20, 1:55:23]: how they'd want to proceed with uh taking that next step. [1:55:24, 1:55:24]: Um [1:55:25, 1:55:42]: at some point someone's gonna need to engage someone to get the process started. Um ultimately it does it falls to the um commercial community and the business community to take on this task, but um I think it it appears that what other jurisdictions have done in the past is [1:55:42, 1:55:46]: We brought a consultant on to kinda help galvanize the business community. [1:55:46, 1:55:48]: Um to get you know, seed money, if you will. [1:55:48, 1:55:51]: to get the process jump started and and and began. So [1:55:52, 1:56:12]: So we have, we put together some maps, we've identified who the businesses are within that corridor. Um we're going to go back through a review and take a look at uh what exists um on the previous draft uh feasibility study that was done and then see what next steps we can take and at some point should it be the council desire to move forward with bringing forward a request. [1:56:12, 1:56:32]: request for um helping to fund some of that um some of that that initial draft or the initial um um start up funds in connection with in this case likely the um Henry County and doing some kind of joint agreement with them since since again at one hundred thirty eight in particular it's in and out of the city's boundary so [1:56:31, 1:56:34]: So there needs to be some cohesiveness whatever is done. [1:56:35, 1:56:37]: Hi, any other comments? [1:56:38, 1:56:42]: You don't mind. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you a lot for your presentation. Appreciate it. And uh [1:56:42, 1:57:02]: And I'm without a doubt a supportive of whatever we can do to assist the process with our interchanges and to help beautify the area and bring help bring businesses to the area by beautifying and get those those actual businesses involved in and taxing themselves and aspects as well. So uh hopefully w things will move forward and we can do some good things. Thank you. [1:57:02, 1:57:09]: Okay. Um we will move on from that topic at this point. We appreciate you bringing that up for discussion. Um [1:57:10, 1:57:19]: Before we go any further, I saw our chamber president come in, Rod Meadows. I don't know if you are here on official business. Wanna come to the podium, say a few words? [1:57:20, 1:57:26]: Thank you, um Mayor and members of the council. Uh I'm uh very pleased uh [1:57:26, 1:57:32]: work with you as chair of the chamber, but I'm actually here tonight as representative of the uh development authority. [1:57:32, 1:57:35]: Uh at the request of the council, my understanding. [1:57:36, 1:57:39]: So I'm standing by for whenever you're ready for that agenda item. [1:57:43, 1:57:52]: All right. Well let's move on. We've gone through discussion. Uh at this point, do we have any um ending comments from our um city [1:57:53, 1:57:54]: Manager. [1:57:54, 1:58:04]: All right, no comments. Are there any um comments that anybody has not been able to make so far during the evening that you'd like to make? Yes. [1:58:04, 1:58:05]: Councilman Alexander. [1:58:05, 1:58:25]: I always like to thank citizens for taking their time to come out and inju and uh take part in the democratic process of bettering our city. Uh I see Miss Lewis is here now who joined our um youth advisory board here earlier and and thank you for volunteering. [1:58:25, 1:58:35]: volunteer and you weren't acknowledged earlier, but I'd like to acknowledge you now and thank you uh for coming out tonight and choosing to give your time to the city. [1:58:35, 1:58:38]: I just want to say uh to the citizens out there [1:58:39, 1:58:56]: Ladies and gentlemen, we have monumental tasks in front of us. And we have to avoid the pitfalls and the distractions. I'm committed to uh working with this team to move the city forward to be the best city in the twenty first century that we can possibly be. [1:58:56, 1:59:12]: But that we're that that we can't get distracted by uh you know, issues that come up along the way. We have to move forward and we have to put water under the bridge and move ourselves uh in a positive direction to be the best we can be. So thank you so much. [1:59:13, 1:59:16]: Okay, any comments, Councilman White? [1:59:16, 1:59:24]: Um I'd just like to say to everyone that um since I became a city council member, one of the things I've always done and tried to do [1:59:25, 1:59:29]: uh is to present to you all first of all my character and who I am. [1:59:29, 1:59:33]: Who I am in the community, with or without this position as city council member. [1:59:33, 1:59:35]: And someone told me right now. [1:59:35, 1:59:47]: Could you work in the community for free or be a city councilman and just get paid and and to do certain things that we demand from the city council member as a city council member? Give me the community every time. [1:59:47, 1:59:50]: But I'm able to work in the way that I am in the community. [1:59:51, 1:59:59]: representing the city council because of there's a respect factor that is there because I'm a part of government that's out there with the citizens. [1:59:59, 2:00:19]: And I've always been this the same person that you're going to see before you now. That's who I am in my church. That's who I am in my community. That's who I am every day you see me. I'm about community. I'm about serving the citizens of Stockbridge. And there's anything that anyone ever need, you need me to be hands on with you, give me a call and [2:00:19, 2:00:39]: any time. I'd also like to thank uh uh another m uh new member from uh actually it's Carris Lakes uh subdivision that was appointed to the uh Main Street uh uh s uh Main Street board, uh Mr Willie Hawkins if you don't mind standing just kinda wave your hand in the air like you just don't care. Uh we appreciate that. And uh [2:00:39, 2:00:42]: Uh just uh I'm looking forward to a great year in twenty seventeen. [2:00:44, 2:01:04]: All right. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Appreciate it. Uh citizens, it's always good to have you engaged and and and here present with us as well as if if anybody may be watching at home. Uh but uh keep the faith, uh we're gonna do good things in two thousand seventeen. I also want you to know that we recently had a council retreat uh which is publicly uh notify notified the public in all [2:01:04, 2:01:24]: this stuff the when we were where we're located. But uh what I want to tell you it was it was worthwhile, engaging, very spirited and we set some goals and objectives and uh for the future so we'll uh looking forward to accomplish those those uh items there. Um also what happened this past week is uh based on the fact of the our successful job fairs that we've had in the city uh [2:01:24, 2:01:37]: Uh we were actually awarded the City of Stockbridge is actually awarded the good uh good year uh goodwill ambassador for the year and then this was effort as period by Councilman Alexander, but it is an award for the entire city. So [2:01:37, 2:01:50]: And uh we'll have that and display that here in the city hall for you all to take a look at. It's a good recognition for us uh across the board, a good advertisement and I know we'll continue on with those job fairs in the future as well. Um [2:01:51, 2:02:11]: I also want you to know that I am not uh I'm a football fan, but I'm not a diehard Falcon fan, but I want you to know that I I hurt too. I I I hurt I still hurt, okay? So I just want you to know that uh that um I'm with you. And I don't know how they blew that lead either, okay? But regardless of that, uh member of the [2:02:10, 2:02:15]: I also want to tell you, happy Valentine's Day. [2:02:16, 2:02:26]: Alright, enjoy your your loved ones or the special significant others uh tomorrow evening and uh have a good time and continue to keep the faith. God bless you all. Thank you. [2:02:27, 2:02:28]: Councilwoman Gaint. [2:02:29, 2:02:32]: Well now that Councilman Ford opened up my wound. [2:02:33, 2:02:35]: Uh with the Falcons. [2:02:35, 2:02:52]: I um wanna just thank everyone for coming out. I ask that you continue to pray um for us. Um it's not easy being up here and making decisions for the city, but we all do it for the purpose of serving. And um I just um [2:02:52, 2:03:11]: You know, we've got a lot accomplished and we're headed in the gr uh right you know, the right direction. We had a wonderful retreat and we look forward to serving you in the future. Um, feel free to reach out to me by email or by uh phone. You can find all of our information on the City of Stockbridge website. Thank you. [2:03:12, 2:03:20]: That was woman Robinson. Yes, wanna thank everyone for coming out. Um thank you for the young lady that we acknowledge tonight. Um [2:03:20, 2:03:40]: who was um in re representing and for Congressman David Scott's office. Also wanna thank Ms. Vivian Thomas for definitely coming doing that presentation. Thank you so very much because that's something that we've been talking about and we just really need to move forward and um put the pen to the paper. Um so thank you again and again for those that were appointed to [2:03:40, 2:04:00]: Tonight, um especially to my youth council advisory. I'm excited for that. So I think coming soon our attorney will be in contact so that way you can have that up first up and coming meeting. Um so look forward for that. So again, thanks everyone for volunteering um for our city because that is something that we do. [2:04:00, 2:04:04]: desperately desperately need here in the city of Stockbridge. Thank you. [2:04:05, 2:04:12]: Uh at this time um I would like to tell you just a little bit about some upcoming meetings that are happening. [2:04:12, 2:04:32]: And I want to explain something. The council has had a lot of discussions about what to call different meetings, and uh this is what's going to happen in the future. The City of Stockbridge will host four town hall meetings a year. Those will be quarterly, they will [2:04:32, 2:04:43]: will be at the city hall and those will be we will be able to give you an update of whatever is going on. At at each town hall meeting you will get an update [2:04:44, 2:04:49]: always on the finances of the city as to how the revenues are coming in. [2:04:49, 2:05:09]: And then individual council members will be able to have what will be called and advertised as community meetings. Those will be held out in the community wherever they choose to do that. And so we want you to understand the difference of a town hall meeting will be at City Hall. [2:05:09, 2:05:28]: Community meetings will be out in neighborhoods. And we have one coming up on February sixteenth, and that will be with Councilman Alexander, and that one will be at the um Red Oak United Methodist Church on February sixteenth. [2:05:28, 2:05:32]: And you can pick up a copy of this information off our website. [2:05:33, 2:05:48]: Um or if you want to talk to Councilman Alexander about that, please do so before you leave. Another one will be um an ongoing um event that happens frequently and it will be a community meeting hosted by [2:05:48, 2:05:49]: Um [2:05:49, 2:05:56]: fr uh our pro tem, uh Anthony Ford and that w is called Coffee with the Cop. It'll still be a community meeting [2:05:57, 2:06:00]: But it the subtitle is Coffee with the Cop. [2:06:00, 2:06:03]: And that will be on February twenty fifth. [2:06:03, 2:06:05]: at the Bridgeville Country Cooking Restaurant. [2:06:06, 2:06:09]: And that's held usually between eight thirty and ten o'clock in the morning. [2:06:10, 2:06:19]: Also there will be three official city meetings coming up. One is the zoning advisory board meeting on February twenty third. [2:06:19, 2:06:23]: You can find all the details about that on our website. [2:06:23, 2:06:26]: downtown development authority known as the D DA. [2:06:27, 2:06:32]: That will be meeting on February twenty seventh at the city hall, six PM. [2:06:32, 2:06:36]: And then there will be a council work session [2:06:36, 2:06:40]: And that will be February twenty eighth at the city hall. [2:06:40, 2:06:43]: um in the council chamber here. [2:06:43, 2:06:56]: So those are our upcoming meetings. Uh I need to ask our uh attorney, do we have any executive session issues tonight? Yes ma'am, we'd like to have an executive session for real estate matters, personnel and litigation. [2:06:57, 2:07:12]: Okay, you've heard that. We cannot estimate exactly how long we'll be in executive session, but uh if you want to wait, you're welcome to do that. If you want to run get a cup of coffee for thirty minutes and come back, you're welcome to do that. [2:07:12, 2:07:15]: Uh we'll be back out as soon as we can. [2:07:15, 2:07:21]: Yeah. And we need a motion from one of the council members now at this point to go into executive session. [2:07:22, 2:07:25]: Mayor Neal, I make a motion that we go into executive session. [2:07:26, 2:07:30]: We have a motion from Councilwoman Robinson. Do I hear a second? [2:07:30, 2:07:33]: For real estate purposes, personnel. [2:07:33, 2:07:34]: And litigates. [2:07:36, 2:07:36]: Thank you. [2:07:36, 2:07:38]: Do I hear a second? A second. [2:07:39, 2:07:42]: Okay, we have a motion and a second. All in favor? [2:07:43, 2:07:46]: Okay, we're into executive session. Thank you. [2:07:48, 2:07:50]: Oh boy. [2:08:05, 2:08:05]: It's a [2:08:11, 2:08:13]: Question. [2:08:16, 2:08:18]: Button camp. [2:08:20, 2:08:31]: [7736.7, 7739.4]: [2:09:02, 2:09:03]: I wanted to know better. [2:09:09, 2:09:20]: [7765.0, 7780.0]: I would say [2:09:45, 2:09:50]: [7790.0, 7810.0]: But eating white D and um [2:10:14, 2:10:17]: All right. I just want to give you a heads up on [2:10:17, 2:10:22]: after we eventually have the meeting I'll give you an update so you'll know where it is. [2:10:24, 2:10:25]: All right, thank you. [2:10:37, 2:10:45]: Oh yeah, [2:10:50, 2:11:10]: And then we can see over everything. [2:11:10, 2:11:30]: Yeah, we'll have to do it. [2:11:29, 2:11:49]: No, look at an apple. [2:11:49, 2:12:09]: Oh these uh uh silicate or something. Oh Google, yeah. Um [2:12:09, 2:12:29]: [7949.7, 7969.7]: [2:12:49, 2:12:54]: [7976.0, 7996.0]: [2:13:16, 2:13:26]: I think how [2:13:27, 2:13:46]: I don't know. [2:13:49, 2:14:05]: Uh-uh. [2:14:06, 2:14:08]: Yeah, so [2:14:08, 2:14:11]: [8059.5, 8064.4]: Library is fine. [2:14:45, 2:14:49]: No no, no. Elton. [2:14:54, 2:15:06]: This considered. This is a c this is a quorum. This is a quorum. Okay, I got it. I got it. Okay, if I could have everyone's attention. [2:15:10, 2:15:14]: I need a motion to end the executive session. [2:15:14, 2:15:17]: [8118.5, 8121.3]: [2:15:29, 2:15:43]: Now that we have our clerk back with us, I need a motion to end the executive session. Mayor Neal, I'm make a motion to extend executive session, please. We have a motion, but I have a second. We have now a second by Pro Tem Ford. [2:15:43, 2:15:46]: And uh is there any discussion about that? [2:15:47, 2:15:48]: If not [2:15:49, 2:15:50]: All in favour? [2:15:51, 2:15:59]: Okay, we're reporting out there were no items to be voted on from executive session. Reacting the emotion open to meeting back up. [2:15:59, 2:16:06]: Okay, at this time um we need a motion to open this meeting back up [2:16:07, 2:16:08]: So moved. [2:16:08, 2:16:10]: Do I have a second? Second. [2:16:11, 2:16:20]: No items to be voted on at this point. Mayor. Yes. We need a um I just need to put in the record that Councilwoman Gantt has left the meeting. Okay. [2:16:21, 2:16:23]: Councilwoman Gann had to leave early. [2:16:23, 2:16:27]: At this time do I hear a motion to end the meeting? [2:16:28, 2:16:30]: So moved. Do I hear a second? Second. [2:16:30, 2:16:35]: All right, I'll and any discussion, let's discuss that. You all wanna discuss? [2:16:36, 2:16:38]: You sure you guys don't want to talk some more? [2:16:39, 2:16:41]: All right. In that case then. [2:16:42, 2:16:43]: All in favour? [2:16:44, 2:16:47]: All right. Thank you. Meeting adjourned. [2:16:53, 2:16:56]: That's what just what we did? [2:16:58, 2:17:00]: That was a motion to adjourn this meeting.

--- title: January 31 2017 Work Session Meeting date: 2017-01-31 source: 2017-01-31_January_31_2017_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:20]: I got to go. [0:00:20, 0:00:25]: Yeah. [0:00:25, 0:00:45]: It's about six o'clock, so we're ready to start with the offer and six o'clock. [0:00:45, 0:00:45]: Mm. [0:01:31, 0:01:46]: It's now six o'clock. I'm going to call this meeting to order. And at this time I'm going to call on our Councilman John Blount, who's in ministry if you were to uh offer words for invitation. [0:01:49, 0:01:50]: You would stay. [0:01:55, 0:02:00]: Dear Heavenly Gracious Father, we first come to you, thank you, Heavenly Father, for who you are and what you do, Heavenly Father. [0:02:01, 0:02:07]: We come right now, God, thanking you that you would oversee this meeting, Heavenly Father, that you would clear our minds and hearts, Heavenly Father that [0:02:07, 0:02:13]: Nothing within us, but Heavenly Father, but doing your will is our purpose and serving the citizens is our purpose, Heavenly Father. [0:02:13, 0:02:27]: We thank you, Heavenly Father, for the young man, uh Braxton Caulwell that came forward, Heavenly Father, that you would cover him and his family and his time of service to this country. We ask that you will be with us all, and it's in Jesus' name that we pray. Amen. [0:02:33, 0:02:46]: But religions to fire the United States of America and to the same combination of an our individual. [0:03:00, 0:03:20]: The room earlier before you arrived. We were making photographs with Waxton Calwell, a Scott Ridge citizen, who is uh immediately looking in the morning to serve our country. And at this time I would like for Blaxton to stand and let you recognize him. And also ask his family to let [0:03:20, 0:03:21]: So we can work. [0:03:34, 0:03:50]: The the uh Caldwell family is taking him out to eat, so we're gonna take about a minute and we're gonna let them exit the chamber. And right so we send you our absolute best wishes on your uh mission to serve the the US therapy. [0:03:52, 0:03:54]: Thank you. [0:03:59, 0:04:02]: [256.2, 256.8]: [0:04:24, 0:04:25]: This term we [0:04:27, 0:04:40]: Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilman Blount. Present. Mayor Neil. Mayor Pro Tem Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilwoman Robinson. Present. Mayor Ne Mayor Neal, you have a quorum. [0:04:42, 0:04:45]: At this time I need a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:04:47, 0:04:54]: Mayor Neal, I make a motion to adopt the agenda. Thank you. A second. [0:04:56, 0:05:00]: Any discussion? I don't think we need a discussion for that. Uh all in favor? [0:05:02, 0:05:04]: Okay, thank you so much. [0:05:04, 0:05:10]: At this time we are reviewing and uh adopting the minutes from December twelfth. [0:05:11, 0:05:12]: Fourteen. [0:05:13, 0:05:17]: Sixteenth and twenty seventh, do I hear a motion that those minutes be adopted? [0:05:18, 0:05:18]: Mm-L. [0:05:19, 0:05:20]: Mayor Neal. [0:05:20, 0:05:28]: Those minutes are under review scheduled for adoption on the thirteenth of February. Okay. So they're only under review. Okay. Thank you so much. [0:05:29, 0:05:32]: At this time we are going to um [0:05:33, 0:05:44]: make appointments for our municipical court judge and also our CPA auditing firm. Do I hear a motion that we accept [0:05:45, 0:05:50]: the appointment um those two and you have your backup documents for that. [0:05:52, 0:05:53]: Are we discussing that too? [0:05:54, 0:05:55]: For voting. [0:05:56, 0:06:05]: Mayor Neal, as far as the auditing firm, uh you may wish to delay that only because of the decision that the council had made not to vote during [0:06:06, 0:06:09]: the work session. However, it's my recommendation that you do [0:06:10, 0:06:18]: vote to approve the judge uh uh given that uh I think all of you heard that. We are going to vote. [0:06:19, 0:06:21]: Um I'm I'm sorry, Mayor Deer if I may. [0:06:22, 0:06:42]: We're just talking um because of the timeliness issue as relates to completing our audit, I would ask that's moving we did add it on to this calendar. Yeah, we do need to have consideration for both. All right. Uh so now I need a motion to approve both the appointment of Judge Matt McCord to uh continue [0:06:42, 0:06:46]: [408.2, 412.8]: Uh okay. I first need a motion and then we're going into going to discuss. [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: Yeah. [0:06:55, 0:07:04]: Mayor Neal? Yes. I motion to um continue to appoint or reappoint uh Judge Matt McCord for the municipal court position. I second. [0:07:05, 0:07:11]: Uh we we are gonna put'em both in one motion. They're listed together. And our CPA firm do you [0:07:12, 0:07:14]: Want to include that in the motion. [0:07:16, 0:07:16]: But [0:07:16, 0:07:17]: Okay. [0:07:19, 0:07:24]: Uh and to include the CPA firm that has been chosen in our emotion. [0:07:24, 0:07:28]: Okay. Um at this time we've got a motion. Um [0:07:30, 0:07:32]: I need a second and then we'll have discussion. [0:07:33, 0:07:34]: A second. [0:07:34, 0:07:46]: Okay, we have a second. Is there a discussion? Yes, I just wanted to clarify a point. I I did not know we agreed not to vote at work session. I thought we I d I didn't know when when was that? I thought we uh [0:07:48, 0:07:56]: My understand Mayor, if I may, it's my understanding from the last meeting that uh there's a discussion about not voting unless it was an emergency. [0:07:57, 0:07:58]: Um [0:07:58, 0:08:04]: during uh the uh work sessions, but it's it's still the council's prerogative uh you know, as those [0:08:05, 0:08:18]: Yeah, that was a discussion but that wasn't uh we we moved on moving the time up, but I wasn't aware that we like voting at uh work session. I think we had agreed on that, so I think we still got some ambiguity on that. [0:08:19, 0:08:20]: Mayor. [0:08:20, 0:08:21]: Yes. [0:08:21, 0:08:26]: I think that we if we can move on with that now, we've got a motion of uh [0:08:26, 0:08:29]: We got a uh we we have the motion on the floor, we have a second. [0:08:30, 0:08:42]: Uh so if it's the will of the council to vote, uh considering this is important to both the attorney and to our city manager that we go ahead and deal with these tonight. Uh all in favor? [0:08:43, 0:08:44]: Opposed? [0:08:44, 0:08:46]: All right. Votes are passed. Thank you. [0:08:48, 0:09:08]: Time public comments. I just want to tell people that everyone that has filled out a yellow sheet, all public comments must be filed with our city clerk begin at the beginning of the meeting. You must sign your name, address, and phone number, and you will be able to address the mayor and counsel for three minutes. [0:09:08, 0:09:21]: minutes. Speakers must respect all members of the elected body, officials and staff, defamation, unruliness, and their swearing, of course, will not be tolerated while meetings are in session. [0:09:21, 0:09:30]: At this time we're going to move uh to new business. If do we have anyone that wants to do it? We do. Uh Ms. Beverly Raglin. [0:09:31, 0:09:33]: Beverly Raglan. [0:09:35, 0:09:39]: Okay, if you would come to the microphone and you'll have three minutes, Ms Ragland. [0:09:46, 0:09:47]: Good evening. [0:09:48, 0:09:52]: To the Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem and the Council and citizens that I hear. Out flyout. [0:09:54, 0:09:56]: I am Deborah Ragland. Um [0:09:57, 0:10:00]: My address is four thousand four oh five. [0:10:00, 0:10:01]: Tanner Trace. [0:10:02, 0:10:03]: Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:10:04, 0:10:08]: And I'm here to address some concerns related to the ordinance. [0:10:09, 0:10:10]: For city code number [0:10:11, 0:10:12]: ten twelve. [0:10:13, 0:10:14]: Zero to zero. [0:10:15, 0:10:18]: related to no parking on city streets. [0:10:19, 0:10:22]: And my concern is as a homeowner [0:10:23, 0:10:27]: That leaves me nowhere to park when I have parties for my grandchildren. [0:10:28, 0:10:28]: Um [0:10:28, 0:10:29]: Because [0:10:30, 0:10:31]: They say I can't park on the street. [0:10:32, 0:10:33]: And yet when I have guests [0:10:34, 0:10:37]: When I called the clerk's office they said park on the lawn. [0:10:38, 0:10:40]: When I called my housing association, they said [0:10:42, 0:10:44]: I will get a pine. [0:10:44, 0:10:46]: And promptly sent me the [0:10:46, 0:10:50]: The documentation that says that is against the rules of the Housing Association. [0:10:50, 0:10:53]: So I'm here to appeal to someone who can advocate [0:10:53, 0:10:54]: For um [0:10:55, 0:10:59]: proper resolution to the situation. [0:11:00, 0:11:01]: I live in Langley Oaks. [0:11:03, 0:11:17]: And of course parking on the lawn, if you spent money with manicuring your lawn, that's not a viable solution. And I do understand that there is a need for public safety, but I would think that there's someone who could evaluate the fact that um [0:11:18, 0:11:19]: uh means where [0:11:19, 0:11:23]: parking on the street could be allowed if you're not parking in front of a [0:11:23, 0:11:24]: Fire high, good or [0:11:25, 0:11:28]: parking in front of someone's um driveway [0:11:28, 0:11:30]: I'm just look for someone to [0:11:31, 0:11:34]: to know who to appeal to to review that ordinance. [0:11:36, 0:11:56]: At this time we will accept your presentation. We've noted um our police captain is in the house. We've noted which neighborhood you live in and you do have can you confirm for us that you have an HOA in your neighborhood? I did. Okay. All right. Um we will have someone talk with you later. [0:11:56, 0:12:02]: So be sure you leave your phone number with the clerk if it's on that paper that you filled out. Okay? Thank you. [0:12:05, 0:12:19]: At this time we're going to go to New Business and we're going to have a presentation by our city manager, Michael Harris, Council consideration to approve recommendations for engineering services for the city. [0:12:20, 0:12:22]: Good evening, Mayor, good evening council. [0:12:22, 0:12:24]: Um this is [0:12:24, 0:12:26]: An endeavor we took up um [0:12:27, 0:12:28]: Last year [0:12:28, 0:12:35]: Um am a lot of conversation. One of the concerns of council was the advancement of a number of our projects on the public work side. [0:12:36, 0:12:56]: um and to help facilitate moving projects forward on some of our SPLOSS projects and some some of our other capital projects. We had the um discussion about bringing on on on call services for engineering services. Um we went through we explored a number of other jurisdictions who have set up similar types [0:12:56, 0:13:05]: services, um and working in conjunction with staff members, other professionals within the industry, developed an RFP. [0:13:05, 0:13:08]: went through a process that um where we [0:13:09, 0:13:11]: put out an RFP for engineering services. [0:13:11, 0:13:23]: Um we had nine firms submit proposals. We reviewed all nine of those firms. We had a committee and staff committee as well as um some folks from other jurisdictions come in and and assist us as well. Um [0:13:24, 0:13:37]: We had um the evaluation committee itself met on a couple of occasions. Um after initial evaluations we narrowed the nine down to our top four firms. From there we went through and interviewed those top four firms. [0:13:38, 0:13:47]: And after interviewing the top four firms, everybody independently making their scoring and determinations, um, part of the conversation that we had was [0:13:48, 0:13:53]: while we weren't certainly bound by just having one and talking to some other jurisdictions [0:13:53, 0:14:10]: they spoke about the advantage of having multiple um on call services to allow for greater flexibility whether the scope of the what uh depending on what the scope of the project may be and also flexibility depending upon what their what their workload may be at any one given time. So armed with that information [0:14:11, 0:14:14]: The staff myself are prepared to tonight [0:14:15, 0:14:17]: make a recommendation to award [0:14:17, 0:14:20]: engineering services contract to two firms. [0:14:20, 0:14:23]: One being Falcon design engineering. [0:14:24, 0:14:26]: And the other being Carter and Sloop. [0:14:26, 0:14:30]: What was the second one? [0:14:32, 0:14:40]: Both of these firms are firms we've we've done work with. Um uh they've done you know, stellar workforce in the past. [0:14:41, 0:14:42]: Um we're confident about their [0:14:43, 0:15:02]: their their work capabilities and and and and and abilities, their staff abilities. And again we are this is after a lot of deliberation, a lot of research and evaluation, this is the recommendation of staff. So we're asking tonight and what you'll find in your book is a resolution um asking for approval to move forward with [0:15:03, 0:15:11]: the recommendation to approve Falcon Design Engineering and Carter and Sloop Engineering to provide engineering services [0:15:11, 0:15:12]: for the city. [0:15:13, 0:15:20]: Okay, do I hear a motion that we accept um the two firms for engineering services, Falcon Design? [0:15:21, 0:15:22]: And Carter and Sloop. [0:15:23, 0:15:23]: So moved. [0:15:24, 0:15:26]: Second discussion. [0:15:27, 0:15:29]: No discussion. All in favor? [0:15:31, 0:15:35]: All right. We have two new firms. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, Council. [0:15:37, 0:15:40]: The next item of business is to approve [0:15:42, 0:16:02]: Oh sorry. Uh to approve the use of the Merle Manders Center for a back to school event july twenty ninth, twenty seventeen. This will be presented by John Blount and I want to take just a moment to explain that there are through the year of of twenty seventeen there will be several events. [0:16:02, 0:16:18]: events and each of our council people are gracious enough to take charge of one or two of those events all along. This one, uh Councilman Blount, is responsible for making it happen. It will be a city event and let's um do you have any [0:16:20, 0:16:21]: [981.9, 985.7]: Is everybody okay with the way I presented that? Okay. All right. [0:16:26, 0:16:29]: Yes. It's not a city event, it's still a city it's still a councilman initiative. [0:16:30, 0:16:44]: Yes, that that's the title of it, a council initiative and they will be in charge of their own council and they are city events, but they are council initiatives brought to us by the various councils. [0:16:45, 0:16:55]: Beg your pardon? I haven't made the presentation. All right. At this time we're going to ask uh for a motion to approve the use. [0:16:55, 0:16:59]: Oh, you're gonna make a presentation. All right. Let's go for it. [0:17:00, 0:17:02]: First of all, this event um [0:17:03, 0:17:23]: I got involved in with this event uh a year before I even started to run for city council and uh this event was uh in conjunction with the uh Bridge Fest. Um my church Global Impact Christian Ministry, we uh partnered with the city and far as supplying uh different items and we uh came and I got involved [0:17:22, 0:17:42]: also uh on my own I brought in the video game and bus along with volunteering for this event. Um when when the council member uh Mr. Thomas uh uh when when the council member that was running the event uh prior to me coming into office wasn't re-elected um I chose to be a part of this event uh [0:17:42, 0:18:02]: And continue it. And the first thing I wanted to do is remove it from being a part of Bridgefest. And when I removed it from being a part of BridgeFest, I went in uh along with our assistants, Davita uh Robinson, uh I went out into the neighborhood to the businesses. We solicited the businesses, I partnered with my church, uh and many, many businesses and people want [0:18:02, 0:18:22]: to get involved. So when we had the event at the Merrill Manders Conference Center. When we had at the Merrill Manders Conference Center, it it actually changed the components of what the uh uh the back the uh back to school kickoff i it changed the whole dynamics of it. Uh first of all we had a health fair downstairs a a health fair for uh the citizens [0:18:22, 0:18:42]: Downstairs, we had a business fair upstairs. We had jumpers, we had video gaming bus, we had face painting, balloons, art, uh Italian ice vendors. We had a uh we we gave away over six hundred and fifty book bags. Those are whipped supplies that we was able to give away to uh to uh uh citizens and uh [0:18:42, 0:18:44]: Uh we had [0:18:44, 0:18:50]: We had all types of components working together and we had fifty eight volunteers. [0:18:51, 0:19:11]: fifty eight volunteers at dysfunction. With the money along with Zach Spees and I don't want to go through everybody that that wanted to be a part of along with fraternities and all, it became something that was that that became awesome. It became an awesome event. Uh those partnerships are are are are valuable for the success uh of this event. [0:19:11, 0:19:31]: it the the value uh the partnership with global impact was a uh a very pinnacle success for this uh event to happen and the reason I say it as a councilman council initi initiative that is a city event. Everything we do is a city event. And the reason I say a council initiative because I personally was out there on on the ground running [0:19:31, 0:19:49]: and I wanted to see this. Uh I want to see the dynamics of this grow and I envision it and uh with the help of David Robertson and getting on the phone and getting the community involved. This is what this is what we can do and the cost of this event did not cost the CD the other day getting the location [0:19:49, 0:19:58]: for the event. Remember we had fifty eight volunteers, we had enough donations to have all these functions and have over thirteen hundred people come through the Murray Manors on that day. [0:20:01, 0:20:05]: Okay. Do I hear a motion that we'll have the conversation, please? Discussion. [0:20:07, 0:20:11]: Do I hear a motion and a second? We're gonna get a second and then we'll have discussion. [0:20:12, 0:20:13]: Do I have a motion? [0:20:13, 0:20:22]: I motion to approve uh the Murray mandates for the event to uh happen for this year twenty seventeen. Am I Do I hear a second? [0:20:23, 0:20:24]: I second. [0:20:24, 0:20:28]: Okay, we have a motion and a second. We have discussion. If anyone has a comment. [0:20:28, 0:20:31]: Yes, I think uh we we've all [0:20:32, 0:20:34]: as a council endeavored to [0:20:34, 0:20:41]: uh support the event and you know do everything that we can to move the community forward. [0:20:42, 0:20:44]: collectively, together as a group. [0:20:45, 0:20:46]: Uh [0:20:47, 0:20:50]: It has been expressed and uh [0:20:50, 0:20:57]: some discussion about having this event be solely be a city event. [0:20:58, 0:21:10]: Myself I sponsored the job fair. Um Councilwoman Robinson sponsored um the event, the Pretty and Pink event, as large events, and in order to share those events with the entire city [0:21:11, 0:21:15]: We the distinction in a city event is is simply this. [0:21:15, 0:21:17]: All of us up here. [0:21:17, 0:21:20]: And everybody is um [0:21:20, 0:21:40]: put forth their efforts equally to support this event. This event has been going on previous to my taking office and all of us taking office. But what we want to do instead of having one person's name on the event, we wanted it to have it to be the city of Stockbridge back to school. [0:21:40, 0:21:40]: Yeah. [0:21:41, 0:21:46]: versus having it be just under the name of one council person being a council initiative. [0:21:47, 0:21:50]: I share in this event, I support it one hundred percent. [0:21:51, 0:21:52]: But in the end [0:21:53, 0:21:57]: It should not be just about one person, it should be about the entire council. [0:21:57, 0:22:01]: And being about the entire council means when you come to an event [0:22:02, 0:22:21]: I you know, I promoted the event myself. S all of us up here equally promote this event. We try to bring positivity to the community to get it out. It was a success. But at the same time, in the end, it really needs to be a city event. And when I say city event, [0:22:22, 0:22:29]: Um it is simply this. When you use a city facility such as Merrill Manders is, [0:22:29, 0:22:40]: That cost is written off. That cost can be as much as two thousand dollars. It can be twelve hundred. It really depends on the event. Those are city funds being spent. [0:22:40, 0:23:00]: When we look at using staff, Davita Robinson is a staff person. Her time is charged to you, the citizens. It's not charged to one council person, it's charged to all of us. So in that event, I truly would like to see all large events, not just this one, all large events. [0:23:00, 0:23:12]: the city events. Any events that uh our us as council members bring forward to the city should be small individual events serving our particular constituency. [0:23:13, 0:23:20]: uh to serve the city and to bring forward good ideas that invent that that bring the s that lift the city up. [0:23:21, 0:23:28]: I am in one hundred percent support of this event. I just want it to be a city event versus an individual initiative. [0:23:29, 0:23:37]: We appreciate your opinion of that. I think you heard me say earlier, every city, every event [0:23:37, 0:23:49]: is a city event. It is sponsored as an initiative of a council member. All events will carry the name of the City of Stockbridge. [0:23:49, 0:23:53]: If there's further discussion, yes. Yes. Okay. [0:23:54, 0:24:01]: First of all, let me let me say this. When when we made the banners for this event, not one banner said John Blount on it. [0:24:01, 0:24:06]: It said the city of Stockbridge. Not one banner said John Blount. [0:24:06, 0:24:12]: And when we have a council member that won't be as transparent to you all telling you he supported this event. [0:24:12, 0:24:22]: When we had the event this council member came to the event after he had left another backpack booking book book bag giveaway event and came to his surprise [0:24:22, 0:24:27]: that the components of this event had grown because there's a vision out here. I would not support [0:24:28, 0:24:31]: taking the opportunity for citizens and businesses [0:24:31, 0:24:36]: To be a part of this community is just to say let the city pay for it. [0:24:36, 0:24:56]: We had sponsors, we had partnerships, we had donations. This this event paid for itself and why would we say cut that out and tell the citizens and the businesses of this community, well we're gonna pay for it, you can come if you want to come. When they were more than happy, you had to tell the fraternities no more giving, you had to tell the sorority. [0:24:56, 0:25:03]: And when you sit here, let's be transparent, let's be real. [0:25:03, 0:25:15]: When it comes to working for this city, let's say we're gonna work for this city. I volunteer. That's what I do. I connect the citizens, that's what I do. So to tell me you're gonna sit here and say that you support this event. [0:25:15, 0:25:32]: when you wasn't even at the event to the last part of and didn't know what was going on with the event. I call that not being transparent and truthful to the citizens of this of this state of the city. Thank you for your comments. Are there other comments? I I have a comment. Councilman Robinson, yes ma'am. Um [0:25:35, 0:25:35]: Well [0:25:36, 0:25:56]: First of all, m um Mayor Neal, I'm just glad that you came up with the new special events request. Um with that it will kinda condense some of the concerns that are being addressed because now we'll be able to take have a log of what's being done. Um and so this is a good start. [0:25:56, 0:26:06]: I I will say we all are out here um trying to do right by our citizens, initiatives, whatever it may be, but [0:26:06, 0:26:15]: As some of you can see, we all just need to come together, work together for the city. As the mayor is stating, I mean I have events [0:26:16, 0:26:21]: I don't mind if they're city or whatever. We may not have [0:26:21, 0:26:25]: banners that have our name on them, but we do have [0:26:26, 0:26:30]: social media that posts where these events are coming from. [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: But at the end of the day, [0:26:33, 0:26:35]: It's still all of us. [0:26:35, 0:26:55]: And again, the mayor has created a special events request. It does cost money, it does cost for our employees to be out there. We have to have public works, we have to have everyone. With the council initiatives, we only have a certain amount of funds that we can use. So now that we have [0:26:55, 0:27:03]: have this, I think it will be able to assist all of us so that way we can kinda move forward together. [0:27:03, 0:27:06]: Are there other comments? Yes. [0:27:07, 0:27:25]: Archie you have one minute left. I timed you. Thank you. Um this is exactly what I wanted to clarify, and to clarify that this is the city of Stockbridge back to school event, and I think that's what we're agreeing upon and I'm okay with voting for that. Is that correct? [0:27:26, 0:27:46]: Okay, if there are no other comments um I do Tim Ford. Thank you, appreciate it. Um what I'm wondering if you call the city event, can it still be say that spearheaded by a certain individual on the council? Is that acceptable just do that? I mean if that's acceptable that's fine. It's uh uh I believe that they are all gonna be [0:27:46, 0:27:55]: be called Stockbridge City Events and it will be special initiative, your effort to make it happen. Good deal. Thank you. Very appreciated with that. Okay. [0:27:55, 0:27:57]: All right. All in favor? [0:27:59, 0:28:00]: Opposed. [0:28:00, 0:28:15]: All right, thank you so much. The next thing we're going to talk about is new business council consideration to approve the twenty seventeen voting schedule and that will be presented by our clerk, Vanessa Holiday. [0:28:19, 0:28:21]: All right. Thank you, Mayor and Council. [0:28:22, 0:28:24]: You have in your packets [0:28:25, 0:28:27]: Seven options. [0:28:27, 0:28:29]: For the voting [0:28:29, 0:28:33]: schedule for the twenty seventeen municipal election. [0:28:38, 0:28:42]: Option one, just to um summarize, option one [0:28:43, 0:28:48]: is um the voting schedule that includes two Saturdays. [0:28:49, 0:28:52]: And one week of voting at the Merrill Manders Conference Center. [0:28:53, 0:28:55]: The runoff [0:28:56, 0:29:04]: election is also at the Morrill Manders Conference Center and that estimated cost is twenty three thousand five hundred dollars. [0:29:05, 0:29:15]: Option one A also includes two Saturdays, one week at the Merrill Landers Conference Center, and early voting for the [0:29:16, 0:29:24]: uh runoff election would be held at the Henry County elections office. That's with an estimated cost of nineteen thousand dollars. [0:29:25, 0:29:29]: Option number two includes one Saturday [0:29:30, 0:29:31]: With one week. [0:29:32, 0:29:34]: uh at the Merrill Manders Conference Center. [0:29:35, 0:29:43]: The runoff election would be held at the Merrill Manders Conference Center with an estimated cost of twenty one thousand five hundred dollars. [0:29:45, 0:29:49]: Option two A consists of one Saturday. [0:29:49, 0:30:05]: One week at the Merrmanners Conference Center and early voting at the Henry County Elections Office with the runoff also at the Henry County Elections Office with an estimated cost of seventeen thousand dollars. [0:30:06, 0:30:11]: Option number three does not have any weekend voting. [0:30:11, 0:30:12]: One week [0:30:13, 0:30:24]: Early voting at the Merlmander's Conference Center and the runoff would be held at the Merlmanders Conference Center. That estimated cost is eighteen thousand five hundred dollars. [0:30:25, 0:30:34]: Option number three A, again with no weekend voting, one week at the Merrill Manders Conference Center and the runoff [0:30:34, 0:30:43]: would be held at the Henry County Elections Office with an estimated cost of fourteen thousand dollars. And the final option for [0:30:44, 0:30:46]: would be all early voting. [0:30:47, 0:31:07]: and the uh runoff voting at the Henry County elections office with an estimated cost of ten thousand dollars. The current budget um is sixteen thousand dollars. At the time when we put the budget together we were having our first runoff for the city. So we did [0:31:07, 0:31:27]: did not know what the anticipated cost would be. So we went into this budget with our best guest and um clearly if we go with one of these other options with a weekend day or voting at the Merrmann's Conference Center, there will need to be an adjustment to the current fiscal year budget. [0:31:27, 0:31:28]: Mayor Neil. [0:31:29, 0:31:30]: Um [0:31:30, 0:31:33]: At this time do I have a motion? [0:31:33, 0:31:36]: for any of the above [0:31:36, 0:31:39]: mentioned voting options. [0:31:39, 0:31:40]: Yeah. [0:31:41, 0:31:42]: Do I I have a question? [0:31:42, 0:31:43]: Question? Yes. [0:31:43, 0:31:48]: Madam Madam Clerk, for the mural or race that we just had, which option was that? [0:31:50, 0:31:51]: And here. [0:31:52, 0:31:53]: That we just went through. [0:31:54, 0:31:59]: Because we had a Saturday and a Sunday as far as our um wait, did we? [0:32:00, 0:32:14]: Saturdays and a Sunday. We it's not either one of these. Oh we agreed to that one. Is there n way we can put together one that's like that? Henry County adjusted [0:32:14, 0:32:33]: their numbers because again we didn't know what the anticipated budget was was going to be so they were working with what we had in our budget but their budget has been cut this year. They will not be able to make any concessions this year. So it would be solely on us to be able to fund whichever option is chosen. [0:32:35, 0:32:45]: And if these are seven options. If you want a s an option with a Sunday, that's fine. It's don't voting is required tonight. This is a work session. You may want to take some time to study, get some more information back. [0:32:46, 0:32:54]: I'm presenting seven options tonight. If we want to include a Sunday option, then I would need to go back to the county and figure out how much that's going to cost. [0:32:55, 0:32:56]: [1976.5, 1983.0]: All right. Do I hear a motion to either postpone or move forward? [0:33:03, 0:33:10]: All right. Councilman Alexander. I I concur with Councilwoman Robinson that [0:33:10, 0:33:30]: N neither of these options are sufficient at this time. Sunday voting has been a tremendous success. I'm sorry. We need we need to either ask a question or we need to make a motion. This is not the discussion moment. Okay. As as as far as this is concerned, what do we need to do to uh [0:33:30, 0:33:33]: Have a Sunday option come forward, table it. [0:33:33, 0:33:51]: You you asked me, I will go back and um present you between now and your voting meeting on February thirteenth, additional cost and a different proposal to include Sunday. But let me ask you which one of these options, if it's currently there, would you like to add that to? [0:33:52, 0:34:11]: I would personally like as many voting opportunities as possible. I would like option one and I would like as much time to votes for citizens to allow d alleve themselves of their right to vote and whatever possible the maximum amount of days that Georgia allows. That's what I'd like. [0:34:12, 0:34:31]: Okay, the I can just tell you the law is the early voting must start twenty one days prior to the election, which is October sixteenth, which is what we've included here. The one with the max as you stated is option one, which includes currently two Saturdays. Now one thing that I did do because there was not a Sunday included [0:34:31, 0:34:41]: Um and I would need to go you know what, on the Sunday that we did have voting I'll I'll include the numbers of voters that we had on that Sunday. But um what I did do was [0:34:42, 0:34:47]: with the um early voting for the runoff election that we just had [0:34:47, 0:34:57]: it was held at the same time that the county had their office hours, voting hours, which was eight to five. I have changed those and made it from seven to seven. [0:34:58, 0:35:00]: on across the board, seven to seven. [0:35:01, 0:35:05]: Okay. I have a question by Councilman Blount. [0:35:06, 0:35:11]: Um I was looking at option two A. So with option two A, the question is [0:35:11, 0:35:15]: is that it seemed that all of'em are starting on October the sixteenth on every option. [0:35:16, 0:35:33]: Option two A, it includes the weekend. Um one weekend. One weekend. What would it be to have can you find could we find out what the cost would be if we put another weekend in in option two A? Okay. That would be for two Saturdays, that would be option [0:35:36, 0:35:41]: Either one A or one, they both have two Saturdays already in there. [0:35:43, 0:35:51]: The difference is one for the mu mayor's runoff is at the county and the other the mayor's runoff is at the Merrill Manders Conference Center. [0:35:52, 0:36:12]: I would I would like to remind our council members you might want to postpone this for for the next uh meeting and also rem remind each one of you that we have sixteen thousand dollars in our budget. So we're gonna have to give up something in our budget if we expand it [0:36:12, 0:36:32]: out to the maximum amount, anything above sixteen thousand, we're gonna have to be looking for how we're gonna finish paying for that. So do I hear a motion that we put all of this on hold, bring it back in the meantime everybody can speak to the clerk and ask all the questions and try to figure out [0:36:32, 0:36:37]: Do I hear that motion? [0:36:38, 0:36:41]: Manil. Yes. Um I would like to [0:36:42, 0:36:42]: Um [0:36:44, 0:36:48]: make a motion to table this, um to get further information. [0:36:48, 0:37:02]: I'm interested in option one A and two A with Sundays included, but take something out as well. Um so I think right now, based off the discussion, we have a lot of discussions here. Do you hear a motion to table? Do I hear a second? [0:37:05, 0:37:13]: Oh, okay. Thank you, Council Robinson. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Is there discussion? Yes. [0:37:14, 0:37:19]: I I I just I'm uncomfortable with the fact that Council might have questions [0:37:19, 0:37:38]: I'm not in a hurry to move through this meeting. I'm sorry. If there's anybody you know, w w as we talk about this and ask questions, I know we have the clerk in front of us right now. If we could ask her questions uh about our concerns. I don't know, maybe I'm not the only one as as the in again uh option one [0:37:39, 0:37:45]: or option one A with the Sunday or with the weekend, those days um [0:37:45, 0:37:48]: You know, you mentioned the Merrill runoff [0:37:48, 0:38:08]: uh as well being associated with what we're we're trying to do here. I think Councilwoman Robinson kinda hit it on the head with her option of having um you know like the mayoral the mayoral runoff was that we previously went through. So um putting that option together [0:38:08, 0:38:25]: along with I uh uh I favor like I said, twenty p I favor option number one, giving everybody the most uh uh uh opportunity to uh to vote. Obviously that does come with uh some cost and in uh allow in what we're trying to do here. [0:38:25, 0:38:27]: Okay, let me just respond to that because I'm not sure. [0:38:28, 0:38:31]: the male race that we just went through [0:38:32, 0:38:36]: The Merrill Manders Conference Center was only voting from eight to five. [0:38:36, 0:38:40]: So we don't want to mirror that one, from what I'm hearing. [0:38:40, 0:38:55]: These um dates and times are from seven to seven. Whether they are at the Henry County Elections Office or at the Murr Matters Conference Center, their times have been extended. So but if you want to go back to eight to five it'll be less cost [0:38:55, 0:39:02]: But you have reduced your time for people to be able to vote. But you're saying that you want people to be able to vote. [0:39:04, 0:39:11]: Well I'm I'm wanting people to be able to vote. To me, you had more days, there would still be more time. [0:39:11, 0:39:31]: i and that would help us to kinda cut back on some of the cost of we're trying to get the cost down a little bit. The number of days to me would seem to be okay, well maybe you can't vote um, you know, uh to seven each week, but maybe you could vote you'd have more days or more choices to vote. But I'm okay with like I said [0:39:31, 0:39:44]: said with uh option one adding the Sundays as well. And that does come with two weekends, correct? Two two Saturdays already. Right? Mm-hmm. Okay. And adding a man it will have a [0:39:45, 0:39:45]: Sunday. [0:39:46, 0:39:48]: I have that to go back and get calls for that. [0:39:48, 0:39:49]: Okay. Um [0:39:50, 0:39:51]: I believe Councilman Blount has a [0:39:52, 0:39:52]: Come in. [0:39:53, 0:39:58]: We have a motion and we have a second. I'd like for us to move on tabling this and I'd like for us to go ahead and vote, please. [0:40:00, 0:40:08]: Well we already have a motion and we've already got a second. Now we're in discussion. Do you have any discussion points? That's correct. [0:40:08, 0:40:26]: Yeah, the discussion is that um when we talk about times we have to have all the information in front of us on the dynamics of that. As we saw with Mr Alexander, what he was asking for really wasn't what he wanted. So we have to look at this and see what we really want'cause the times were conflicting what he really wanted. [0:40:26, 0:40:46]: Okay. Um Tim Ford. Thank you very much. What I'm interested in is that uh weekend uh uh voting is great, two weekends I I like that's fine. Early voting um at uh Henry County elections office would be fine as well. But what I'm interested in also is if you have a runoff, I would think the runoff would need to be at Merrill Manors and not the Henry County. [0:40:46, 0:40:58]: That's what I that's what I'm kinda looking at here. That way that's more local to the folks that we have a runoff there. They don't have to travel all the way to Henry County. They can come to Merle Manor. So that's what I'm kinda looking at. If you can maybe add that in the mix there as well. [0:40:58, 0:41:01]: Okay, let me clarify because [0:41:01, 0:41:12]: I need to know if we're going forward because there's no sense in me going through all the other six options if the consensus of the council is to go with option one and add a set a Sunday. [0:41:13, 0:41:14]: and come back with that cost. [0:41:16, 0:41:17]: Okay, good point. Um [0:41:18, 0:41:19]: That would be fine with me. [0:41:19, 0:41:21]: Actually. I'm okay with that. [0:41:25, 0:41:26]: That's true. [0:41:28, 0:41:37]: Okay. At this point we have a motion and a second to table and bring it back at the next meeting, which will be our regular council meeting. [0:41:38, 0:41:40]: At this time it there's no further discussion. [0:41:41, 0:41:42]: All in favour? [0:41:44, 0:41:45]: Opposed? [0:41:46, 0:41:48]: Good. Thank you. Okay, thank you. [0:41:49, 0:41:52]: Uh at this point uh we have um [0:41:52, 0:42:03]: um more new business and it will be presented by our human resources manager Renee Wheeler, Council Consideration to approve safety committee guidelines for the city. [0:42:06, 0:42:08]: Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem and Council. [0:42:08, 0:42:16]: Um I had come before you before with reference to our citywide uh safety programme that's gonna be for the employees only. [0:42:16, 0:42:19]: And now we have added um [0:42:19, 0:42:21]: the committee guidelines. [0:42:21, 0:42:23]: on having a safety committee. [0:42:23, 0:42:25]: made up of individuals from public works. [0:42:25, 0:42:29]: and also from administration on a rotating basis. [0:42:29, 0:42:32]: and um coming forward with the safety program. [0:42:32, 0:42:41]: So in your packet you have all the information in there. What we've just added is just the guidelines at this point for you to review and to approve so we can move forward. [0:42:44, 0:42:44]: Okay. [0:42:45, 0:42:46]: Yeah. [0:42:47, 0:42:49]: Is there any um [0:42:50, 0:42:53]: One um this is a [0:42:54, 0:42:56]: A new business item [0:42:56, 0:43:00]: And we can either vote on it tonight or we can move it forward. But are you [0:43:02, 0:43:03]: [2585.0, 2587.8]: From the manager review. [0:43:08, 0:43:20]: Again, it's not a it's not a time sensitive issue, so it it's the as stated it's a it's a council's desire to vote on it tonight, that's certainly doable. Or if you'd like to put it on a consent agenda for [0:43:20, 0:43:22]: The um regular meeting. That's certainly. [0:43:23, 0:43:30]: Um do I have a motion then that we go forward and vote on this tonight? Ms. Yes. [0:43:30, 0:43:36]: I would uh like to make a motion. I think Miss Wheeler is putting a lot of work into the program. [0:43:37, 0:43:47]: Make a motion to approve. I would like to make a motion um to approve the safety program as put forth by Ms. Renee Wheeler. Second. [0:43:48, 0:43:51]: All right, we have a motion and a second. Is there discussion? [0:43:52, 0:43:54]: No discussion. All in favor? [0:43:56, 0:43:59]: No opposed, thank you so much. [0:43:59, 0:44:00]: Thank you, Council. [0:44:01, 0:44:21]: Uh at this point we're going into some discussion items. These will not be anything I think that we'll be voting on. We're just going to discuss and talk about them tonight. Is that correct, Ms. That's correct. We're just looking to bring these to up for discussion, for consideration, likely to be come to come back to the council at a later date for formal action. [0:44:20, 0:44:33]: This is just to educate the council about a few items. At this point uh we'll be first one will be presented by our attorney Michael Williams, Council consideration to amend travel policy. [0:44:33, 0:44:34]: of the city. [0:44:35, 0:44:42]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. This is a proposal to tweak our existing uh travel policy in two respects. [0:44:42, 0:44:50]: Um both really based on um experience that um and discussions between the staff and various members of of council [0:44:51, 0:44:53]: to to make it work a little bit better. [0:44:53, 0:44:57]: Um as you all know there's a fifty mile radius um [0:44:58, 0:45:00]: uh that we use to establish when [0:45:00, 0:45:05]: overnight stay is appropriate and and in in the past it was felt that [0:45:06, 0:45:26]: Overnight stay would only be approved if the location of the event or the training was at least fifty miles away from the city. But certain events due to the nature, if it's a multi-day training for staff or specifically in in this case, Mayor's Day, as it relates to the council, the nature of the training. [0:45:25, 0:45:28]: [2729.0, 2732.1]: Um along with traveling to downtown Atlanta. [0:45:32, 0:45:34]: um merit consideration that [0:45:34, 0:45:39]: that those two types of events be excluded from the fifty mile radius. [0:45:40, 0:45:52]: So the proposal is to um exempt Mayor's Day and then to exempt uh training um uh days when there are consecutive training uh days for staff. [0:45:52, 0:45:57]: from the fifty mile radius and so we're recommending that the council make that change. [0:46:00, 0:46:10]: Okay, this is a discussion item if anyone wants to make a comment about it or wait and talk to the attorney before it goes on the next council agenda. [0:46:11, 0:46:12]: Your option. [0:46:13, 0:46:17]: Honestly, I'd like to p I'd like to we've we've discussed this already. [0:46:18, 0:46:33]: If the council is amenable, I'd like to go ahead and move forward with it. I think we've reviewed it and we need it we actually have taken advantage of it, so we need to move it forward. So I'd like to make a motion in order to approve the new updated travel policy. [0:46:33, 0:46:36]: Uh uh Mayor Neal, if I may, um [0:46:36, 0:46:41]: um to suggest that the motion, if it's made tonight and and voted on tonight, [0:46:42, 0:46:47]: include a ratification from the pr uh prior uh mayor's day to to allow that because [0:46:47, 0:46:51]: Again, the nature of what happened, we needed to approve that formally. [0:46:51, 0:47:05]: Okay, because the council um has expenses to be paid. Is that what you're saying? Yes, ma'am. And and and just for the sake of the public, everyone knows the Falcons were playing and that weekend specifically was a very hectic [0:47:05, 0:47:07]: downtown and the travel and so [0:47:07, 0:47:24]: The the decision was made to recommend that exemption because of that. Okay. Do we have a motion? Yes, I'd like to uh make a motion to approve the updated travel policy uh retroactive to the expenses that were used uh at Mayor's Day Atlanta. [0:47:25, 0:47:26]: And do we have a second? [0:47:29, 0:47:30]: Any discussion? [0:47:31, 0:47:32]: Okay. [0:47:32, 0:47:33]: All in favour? [0:47:35, 0:47:39]: Okay. Any opposed? I don't think so. We all voted okay, thank you. [0:47:40, 0:47:49]: All right, the next discussion item is branding services for the city and it's going to be presented by our city manager, Michael Harris. [0:47:52, 0:48:01]: Thank you again, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem and Council. Um and again this is a discussion item. This has been ongoing for for a little bit of time now. One just kinda [0:48:01, 0:48:03]: principally update the [0:48:04, 0:48:06]: uh mayor and council on where we stand in this process. [0:48:07, 0:48:14]: Very similar to the engineering services RFP. We this process began last year, it was budgeted. Um it's [0:48:14, 0:48:29]: funding for this initiative is also in this this year's budget as well. Uh and the the the the the goal being to come up with a a a brand and going through the branding process for the city. [0:48:30, 0:48:31]: And that's [0:48:31, 0:48:41]: often people think of a brand and to include simply a new symbol or a new logo, but it's far more than that. It's a lot of marketing, a lot of research that goes into it. [0:48:41, 0:48:55]: Um um so we went through the process of going through uh of first developing a proposal and RFP process and then from there we again solicited and talked with a number of other jurisdictions who have gone through this process previously. [0:48:55, 0:48:55]: Um [0:48:56, 0:48:58]: RP was prepared. [0:48:58, 0:49:02]: We received fourteen proposals back. [0:49:02, 0:49:07]: Ranging from firms from here in our backyard, Georgia, to Texas and New Mexico. [0:49:07, 0:49:12]: So it was um we had a very robust selection of firms that we we um had to choose from. [0:49:13, 0:49:23]: Um we brought in several individuals from the community along with staff to go through and review all the proposals and do an evaluation. We met on several occasions to go through that evaluation process. [0:49:24, 0:49:44]: Um and we've gotten it down to about the last three that everyone was collectively um ready to move forward with. Um again the reason why this isn't in your books as a recommendation and resolution is because we are still in the process of analyzing those three. Um all three up to three out of fourteen we all feel very comfortable with [0:49:44, 0:49:51]: with the firms. There are some issues in regards to we're looking at um budgetary constraints that we also have to deal with as well. [0:49:51, 0:50:11]: I'm sorry, what was in our budget. So I just wanted to make the council aware, address any questions that you may have in regards to the process. Um and it's our hope that by the next meeting, by the next meeting we'll be able to come back with solid recommendations um that meet within our our budgetary constraints as well. So if you might be happy to Could you tell us um the [0:50:11, 0:50:22]: funding for that does that come from our hotel, motel tax or where does that come from? Well some of it does come from some of it is Linda correct me if I'm wrong, general fund and tourism dollars. [0:50:24, 0:50:27]: Okay. [0:50:27, 0:50:30]: Okay, thank you for that presentation. Um [0:50:31, 0:50:39]: I believe you have another one about social media policy for the city and that's by presented by our city manager also. [0:50:47, 0:51:07]: In in the same manner, I wanted to bring this up as a discussion item. Uh this is something we would like to move forward with at some point, but wanted to begin the discussion now. Um there have been a lot of conversations over the course of the last year plus in regards to how we handle our social media, particularly our Facebook accounts, what we're posting, what should or what should not [0:51:07, 0:51:20]: not be posted on our on the city's Facebook pages. Um did some research, spoke to a number of other jurisdictions to get some ideas, uh research how they handle their their social media Facebook postings and [0:51:20, 0:51:21]: social media postings. [0:51:22, 0:51:22]: Um [0:51:23, 0:51:36]: And I provided some of that information in your booklet. Um one is a playbook that's provided by I believe it's ICCMA and another one is actually the draft from another jurisdiction, this case Swan City of Swanee, um, on how they handle [0:51:37, 0:51:38]: Um items like this. [0:51:40, 0:52:00]: Again, wanted to start the dialogue and start the conversation. I think it'd be prudent for for for us as a city, because the age that we live in, communication is done far more by through by and through social media. So having a solidified policy in place to make sure that as we move forward in this direction that we are doing so in a in a [0:52:00, 0:52:11]: responsible, prudent, and eff an efficient and effective method. Um I think part of the challenge we're having right now, in all honesty, is we have such a flood of of information coming onto our Facebook page [0:52:11, 0:52:15]: things can get lost in it and really pertinent information can get lost on our pages. [0:52:15, 0:52:19]: Um in speaking to a number of my peers in other jurisdictions [0:52:19, 0:52:22]: And this would be my recommendation as we go forward [0:52:23, 0:52:34]: what often happens on city councils and municipalities as individual council members maintain their own individual Facebook pages and that can be linked to the city off the city's website. [0:52:34, 0:52:40]: But they would have it for their individual events or initiatives or or events that they may be doing or information they want to share. [0:52:40, 0:52:41]: With their constituency. [0:52:42, 0:52:43]: But the [0:52:43, 0:52:55]: Facebook postings, those would be directed solely by staff as far as what's getting on. And they would really be re re relegated to just those events that are solely um city specific sponsored events. [0:52:56, 0:53:04]: Um so that's the that's kind of the context that I'm I'm I'm I'm bringing this information to you with. Again, just want you to kind of take the information. [0:53:05, 0:53:25]: Go through it, review it, ask me any questions that you may have. But again, again the effort here is simply to operate in a more efficient and prudent manner for for all business. And again, I think it's certainly at the end, I think it'll be useful for our citizenry and those who want to seek information in regards to the city, they have that distinction between city information that's being published [0:53:24, 0:53:43]: li um be being publicized and individual council members for information that they may want to pro uh move forward and and and and and and post. So again just making that distinction. Again, I've gone through, I've looked at several jurisdictions and that's the methodology that they've incorporated and appear apparently to have much success. [0:53:44, 0:54:04]: All right, thank you for the presentation. Um this is not going to be anything we're voting on, but um if anyone has a comment. I do ma'am. All right. So what I've gathered, Mike, from this is that this is some best practices from other jurisdictions for us to read this, take a look at this, and maybe select or tweak something that we like to see in our [0:54:04, 0:54:19]: document and then present that back to you so or you and your staff can kinda word that into a specific stop bridge policy and uh what time how how much time frame we're looking at and what do you need a comments back? Well again it's n this is not a time of the of the essence but certainly if [0:54:20, 0:54:40]: by the next work session if we can have comments back from the council that would be idea. Because again, you're right, the the the eventual goal here is to receive comments back from the council. Um again, this is a starting point. We're starting the process and eventually take those comments, incorporating them into a draft document, we can come up with our own draft policy for the council [0:54:40, 0:54:41]: Mm-hmm. [0:54:42, 0:55:02]: So uh you know, whatever time you think is appropriate, we want to say the next two weeks before yeah at the next uh council meeting, certainly that's fine, but certainly by the next work session uh we can get those comments. Looks at the next work probably is fine with me. I don't know if I don't know better but yeah. If we can get them prior to the next work session, we can take those and incorporate them in and and and hopefully perhaps even have that next draft available for consideration by the council. Thank you. [0:55:01, 0:55:06]: Okay. Mr. Robinson? Thank you, Mayor. [0:55:06, 0:55:08]: You were saying link? [0:55:08, 0:55:28]: to council's personal account? Well no no it would be a Facebook uh you know what I've seen in other jurisdictions is you can go on the the main cities main page and under their their pictures you could click on their particular picture take them to their individual Facebook and maybe a city Facebook page [0:55:28, 0:55:48]: Page. You know, yeah, people today have multiple Facebook pages or multiple Facebook sites, but this could be their city specific quite Mike make sure I'm not saying anything out of the phone. I mean I do like that idea because uh did you check with Swanee to see if they they're at large, you know, like we are. Okay. Do they have council initiative which is [0:55:49, 0:55:50]: City funding. [0:55:51, 0:56:08]: So as we're doing the comparison because when we're using city funds, the constituents want to know exactly what you're doing with the funds. And a lot of times a visual will show them. So by doing that link, I'm I'm very open for that. So and it varies in some cases. You know some municipalities they do have [0:56:09, 0:56:22]: They have district seats and at large seats, so there's a hybrid and some the majority of them are by ward or by district. Okay. There is a there's a as long as our citizens are we're being transparent when we're spending funds. I'm good with that. [0:56:24, 0:56:44]: Any other comments before we move on? Yes. Gentleman Alexander. I'd just like to say thank you. I love this policy. I read it, I've I've embraced it and I think he did a great job. And this policy uh we could we could move forward with in the future. So [0:56:44, 0:56:45]: Clarify some of the [0:56:46, 0:56:50]: some of the issues and challenges that we've had over the course of the last year plus plus. And I think this will help to do that. [0:56:53, 0:56:59]: Okay. Um no other comments? We will leave that on the um table for [0:57:00, 0:57:10]: the next work session to have any comments you have back to the city manager by that day. Thank you. Uh the next thing that we have the city manager will uh [0:57:11, 0:57:13]: present to you a variance request. [0:57:14, 0:57:17]: For Waffle House Inc. of Norcross. [0:57:18, 0:57:19]: Right. [0:57:23, 0:57:26]: NS stated this is a again this [0:57:27, 0:57:38]: The next few items were actually heard by our zone advisory board just yesterday, yesterday evening. So the um the minutes and the notes from that will be forthcoming to the council. [0:57:38, 0:57:42]: Um but this is actually scheduled to be heard february thirteenth. [0:57:42, 0:57:47]: Okay, one thirteen and actually the council did receive a seven of the action minutes from yesterday. [0:57:47, 0:57:55]: Okay, so you have those for for your consideration. Um what's being proposed here and again this is just a discussion, this isn't [0:57:55, 0:58:02]: opening it up for public public um comment today, those public comment time will be on will occur on the thirteenth. [0:58:02, 0:58:03]: Um [0:58:03, 0:58:05]: But the first item is [0:58:05, 0:58:06]: Uh, Waffle House. [0:58:07, 0:58:07]: Is [0:58:08, 0:58:11]: looking for a is requesting a variance [0:58:12, 0:58:18]: for their property, proposed location. It's right on Eagles Landing Parkway near Parkside Drive. Um [0:58:22, 0:58:26]: I guess it's uh a little what's my [0:58:29, 0:58:31]: Naturally it doesn't work. [0:58:31, 0:58:34]: I can't turn it off. [0:58:35, 0:58:37]: But the square that's located [0:58:39, 0:58:44]: right here, that's the proposed facility itself. That's the proposed building with the associated parking. [0:58:45, 0:58:50]: Um what they're asking for what they're requ what their request is for is [0:58:51, 0:58:54]: A variance on the size of the sign. [0:58:55, 0:58:57]: Um this is what's being proposed. Thank you. [0:58:58, 0:59:03]: This is what's being proposed. It does meet the requirement of the eight foot height minimum. [0:59:03, 0:59:05]: And with being a brick ground sign. [0:59:05, 0:59:06]: However, [0:59:07, 0:59:09]: Because in the way our ordinance states [0:59:09, 0:59:10]: It's [0:59:10, 0:59:16]: um the maximum allowable size of the sign is contingent and based upon the actual frontage. [0:59:16, 0:59:18]: This is a very narrow building, so [0:59:18, 0:59:21]: their allowable fringe would be something like twenty [0:59:21, 0:59:22]: Twenty six square feet. [0:59:23, 0:59:24]: Um and what's [0:59:25, 0:59:25]: being proposed. [0:59:26, 0:59:27]: for their standard sign would be [0:59:28, 0:59:29]: Roughly fifty square feet. [0:59:30, 0:59:31]: So that's variance number one. [0:59:32, 0:59:33]: Variance number two. [0:59:33, 0:59:35]: is in regards to [0:59:35, 0:59:39]: the allowance for the location of the wall signs. [0:59:39, 0:59:40]: Um [0:59:41, 0:59:51]: By ordinance they'd be allowed to have wall signs on two faces, but again because of the configuration they're seeking a variance for having it on a third. [0:59:51, 0:59:56]: on the third phase. So as you can see it is a proposed all brick structure, brick and glass. [0:59:56, 0:59:57]: Um [0:59:57, 0:59:59]: But those are the [0:59:59, 1:00:01]: Those are the the the [1:00:02, 1:00:22]: Variances are will be coming before you on the thirteenth. Um the uh representative of the applicant is here. If you have specific questions you'd like to ask them, certainly not required. I know you're again we just had the meeting yesterday, so you just received the the notes. Um but if you did have any questions to them he is here to address any questions that you may have. [1:00:23, 1:00:24]: Point of order. [1:00:24, 1:00:30]: Uh if we do have questions, you have one, Councilman Alexander. [1:00:30, 1:00:34]: Okay. Uh the first of all the uh the Eagles Landing uh community has [1:00:35, 1:00:55]: uh special they have their own like overlay for the area. Question one would be does this fit inside does this meet those standards of what the Eagles landing um zoning or w states. And also I would like to ask some questions of the gentleman here. We have [1:00:55, 1:00:57]: In this very district we have [1:00:58, 1:01:18]: We have three waffle houses already. We have one at Hudson Bridge. We have one at Dave we have one at Patrick Henry Parkway and then there's another one at E uh East Lake. So this would be number four. So I'm I'm a bit confused by, you know, why we need four along this one uh strip. [1:01:18, 1:01:25]: And honestly I would be tend to not not not want to approve this measure but at the same time I would listen. [1:01:26, 1:01:34]: I I'll for him to come up and address any questions and work session if that's if that's something the council may like to entertain. [1:01:35, 1:01:41]: Would you repeat that? [1:01:42, 1:01:44]: Yes. [1:01:44, 1:01:51]: Here we go. All right. Please come up and identify yourself. Come you want to come up to the podium? [1:01:56, 1:02:01]: My name my name is Sanford McAllister. I am an employee of the Waffle House [1:02:01, 1:02:03]: And based out of Norcross. [1:02:04, 1:02:08]: And to respond to your question, Councilman Alexander [1:02:08, 1:02:12]: I'm hoping in our sixty plus years of [1:02:12, 1:02:17]: of developing Waffle House indicates that there is a demand and a need in your community. [1:02:17, 1:02:25]: And although nobody needs one, we're so excited that folks really want Waffle House and and that's what our business model suggests. [1:02:26, 1:02:29]: will be another very desirable place to have a Waffle House. [1:02:31, 1:02:31]: Yeah. [1:02:32, 1:02:33]: Are there other questions? [1:02:34, 1:02:40]: All right, Councilman Blount. [1:02:41, 1:02:43]: Less than a quarter mile from the [1:02:43, 1:02:45]: Waffle House at Eagles Landing and uh [1:02:46, 1:02:48]: Uh country club drive, is that correct? [1:02:50, 1:02:56]: No, sir. Um the the if country club drives out near the interstate in the Chick-fil-A. Mm-hmm. [1:02:56, 1:02:57]: It's no it's um [1:02:58, 1:02:59]: A mile [1:03:00, 1:03:07]: um at least. And there's a very different traffic pattern that we have observed at all hours of the of the day and night and weekends. [1:03:08, 1:03:17]: Additionally, hopefully each of you have had the pleasure of seeing it's not uncommon for us to have uh success in serving the communities w with one on either side of the highway within [1:03:18, 1:03:19]: Far less than a quarter of a mile. [1:03:20, 1:03:24]: But when you say track pattern because on that side of Eagles Landing [1:03:25, 1:03:36]: Um at ten o'clock even the w uh Walgreens realize they need to be closed. Everything on that side is gonna be pretty much shut down except for the Waffle House. [1:03:37, 1:03:38]: Sounds good. [1:03:38, 1:03:39]: Yeah. [1:03:39, 1:03:42]: [3822.5, 3825.2]: Who you're gonna have is the l the well [1:03:46, 1:04:06]: Everything will pretty much be shut down except for the water. I mean we we have we do sit sit on each of our real estate prospective sites at all all three shifts and and do uh traffic counts and and talk to the neighbors, learn who is open and who is not open and and learn you know w what it what type of potential customers and traffic generation. [1:04:06, 1:04:09]: um opportunities are there and again all of those [1:04:09, 1:04:10]: Um [1:04:10, 1:04:11]: were [1:04:11, 1:04:12]: for our favourable. [1:04:13, 1:04:14]: [3854.8, 3855.7]: So uh yeah. [1:04:15, 1:04:20]: I'm just i i I'm just it's just interesting that you're saying you you go on a bit research [1:04:20, 1:04:23]: When I've lived in that community for going on twelve years and [1:04:24, 1:04:27]: When you come down Eagles Landing right in that area [1:04:28, 1:04:29]: There's no traffic. [1:04:30, 1:04:35]: So what i what type of a clientele are you trying to sustain after ten o'clock? [1:04:35, 1:04:55]: We're hoping to s to attract and sustain good quality clientele like we do at all of our Waffle House restaurants. And so what you're saying, you're trying to produce a clientele rather than sustain one,'cause if you come down Eagles Landing at ten o'clock at night, I've been there for twelve years, there's no traffic on that side. Now so you're saying within our hour with [1:04:55, 1:05:02]: We're less than a mile and a half, we're gonna pass three Whopper houses. So yours gonna be the one I need to stop at. [1:05:03, 1:05:05]: We believe and and I [1:05:06, 1:05:26]: I think we're way off a off the track of of the reason that I'm here, but I'll be happy to continue discussing it. But our business model suggests that this is a good place to develop a Waffle House. The the reason that I come to to the council uh is for a a signage variance and and But we're not off we're not off track because you're coming for business. [1:05:26, 1:05:40]: I'm coming for community. Well I I everywhere we hope that the community has continued to embrace us, especially in Stockbridge, we've been very well received and and that's why we're here and want to develop another Waffle House. That's an additional reason. [1:05:40, 1:05:43]: in places and communities that are not embracing us. [1:05:44, 1:05:44]: Which [1:05:44, 1:05:46]: The numbers are few. [1:05:46, 1:05:47]: We we don't go back there. [1:05:48, 1:05:55]: We have had very good reception here and we we can measure that in terms of our sales and our sales changes in the positive direction. [1:05:57, 1:05:58]: Okay. [1:05:59, 1:06:00]: Any other questions? [1:06:01, 1:06:02]: Um mayor. [1:06:03, 1:06:03]: [3964.3, 3966.6]: If we could possibly have a a [1:06:06, 1:06:08]: uh example of the sign. [1:06:09, 1:06:11]: I I see the big bricks structure. [1:06:12, 1:06:13]: in your state in Tapu. [1:06:14, 1:06:15]: You know, an additional [1:06:15, 1:06:16]: Sana John [1:06:17, 1:06:18]: All three [1:06:18, 1:06:23]: So the front and the two sides, basically I'm assuming based off of the way it will be [1:06:23, 1:06:24]: Structured. [1:06:24, 1:06:25]: Um [1:06:25, 1:06:29]: If we could just uh the sign variants that they're requesting. [1:06:29, 1:06:33]: for a smaller sign because of the size of the building. I I'm just concerned of [1:06:34, 1:06:54]: uh whether or not it will match the other signs. That's pretty much so I would like to see a drawing of what the other sign would look like to scale compared to what we're supposed to have. I'll be happy to bring that to you. And the n nature of the variance is to your first uh point is to add a third sign, the the two on the two sides. [1:06:54, 1:07:04]: are um within the the parameters of the pr uh zoning requirements. So this is to add a third sign. That's the first. And it will be the channel cut um [1:07:04, 1:07:08]: illuminated letters. So it's a very nice sign that is very much in keeping. [1:07:08, 1:07:11]: uh in an upgrade in some circumstances um [1:07:11, 1:07:13]: to the signage in in the [1:07:13, 1:07:14]: in the corridor. [1:07:14, 1:07:25]: And then the uh to scale sign, the whole variance is about a as he presented, the orientation of our building cannot be oriented such that the long dimension [1:07:25, 1:07:37]: is facing the road. If it could, I wouldn't be standing here. We could have a sixty four square foot sign. We're we're not asking that. But it's the parameters of the of the lot which include a very steep topography to the west. [1:07:37, 1:07:38]: Um and [1:07:40, 1:07:40]: Topography. [1:07:42, 1:07:43]: I didn't bring my notes. [1:07:43, 1:07:46]: There were three or four things that we addressed last night. [1:08:00, 1:08:01]: Mm-hmm. [1:08:03, 1:08:11]: Sorry about that. The topography and the unique shape of this lot does not allow the building to be rotated ninety degrees. [1:08:11, 1:08:18]: So the code is written such that the the allowable signage is a function of the the wall that faces the road. [1:08:18, 1:08:21]: If this unique lot who's [1:08:21, 1:08:23]: Topography slopes off at thirty five percent. [1:08:24, 1:08:25]: toward the west. [1:08:25, 1:08:27]: And the awkward shape allowed us to turn it. [1:08:28, 1:08:29]: I'm not here [1:08:29, 1:08:30]: At all. [1:08:30, 1:08:50]: In other words, the code would allow it. It is a fraction of the size of the sign that is um right there beside us, the community that's going into the uh apartments. It is dramatically smaller than the McDonalds sign that's across the street, not only in height, where the McDonalds must have come before you for a variance because it's [1:08:50, 1:08:52]: [4132.7, 4141.4]: We we're not asking for any relief on the height. Simply the area to be a a more attractive and visually safe sign. [1:09:01, 1:09:03]: that that can be seen. [1:09:03, 1:09:04]: Thank you. [1:09:04, 1:09:05]: You're welcome. [1:09:05, 1:09:08]: Any other comments or questions? [1:09:09, 1:09:20]: But the uh the city manager I asked a question about the uh Eagles landing zoning requirements for that dist for that particular area. How does this encompass that? How does that [1:09:21, 1:09:25]: Whatever conditions or covenants that may exist [1:09:25, 1:09:28]: specific to the Eagles Landing Community Association. [1:09:29, 1:09:40]: we would not have we would not necessarily be privy to and that'd be in if if it falls within within that community association, then they may well be bound by an additional set of guidelines. [1:09:41, 1:09:57]: However, if those are you know, we but we could only enforce with city code and our city ordinances allow us to enforce. So they could have uh you know, and quite often this issue comes up quite often in subdivisions where we'll get phone calls on a regular basis asking, hey, they're in violation of our covenant [1:09:57, 1:10:17]: We are not the jurisdiction that can enforce um individual covenants within the subdivision only if it's if it's synonymous with one of our it happens to be synonymous with one of our city codes. Um so we can certainly take a look at that, but we're reviewing it solely on the basis of our city code, um not on the basis of what the requirements or guidelines may be [1:10:17, 1:10:20]: Mm. [1:10:20, 1:10:22]: [4222.3, 4233.8]: Yeah, we sure we can certainly reach out to them and find out what you know what their requirements are. We can ask that question. But again, we can't well again that would if if it's if it's a condition that and on the g in this case of the mayor. [1:10:35, 1:10:39]: Um but I can find out just from an informational standpoint, I can provide you with that information. [1:10:39, 1:10:48]: Okay, if we don't have any other discussion questions, uh we will leave that for the city manager to get back to us. [1:10:48, 1:10:51]: And we will have that ready for a [1:10:52, 1:10:54]: a vote at our next meeting. [1:10:54, 1:10:56]: Is that the way you want to leave it, Mr Manager? [1:10:57, 1:11:17]: If if this is a discussion item, do you want this to go on our next council meeting? It's already scheduled to be on the February thirteenth council meeting. All right. Thank you so much for your presentation. All right, we'll move on to item nine and that would be annexation request, city initiated annexation. [1:11:17, 1:11:20]: request uh regarding flipping road. [1:11:21, 1:11:23]: Yes, and and this is [1:11:23, 1:11:25]: Hopefully a nice, simple, easy one. [1:11:26, 1:11:28]: This is um it'd be nice tonight, right? [1:11:29, 1:11:29]: Um [1:11:30, 1:11:32]: This is actually our [1:11:34, 1:11:35]: There it is. [1:11:35, 1:11:37]: our existing Reed's Creek Trailhead. [1:11:38, 1:11:43]: Um one of the and I I get the call every so often, um [1:11:43, 1:11:51]: If you notice as you're driving north on Flippin, you first reach the trailhead that's located on your right. [1:11:51, 1:11:58]: And then about a couple hundred yards down, you'll see the welcome to city stockbridge sign. And so invariably the question always comes, is the [1:11:59, 1:12:07]: trail not actually in the city and it's not. It's actually physically located within the within the within the unincorporated area of Henry County. [1:12:07, 1:12:10]: Um so it's not necessarily an odd thing to own [1:12:11, 1:12:17]: property in another jurisdiction. Uh the Cochran Park right here next to our Gardner Park [1:12:17, 1:12:37]: is a park that's owned and operated by Henry County. However, the park is wholly in the city of Stockbridge. So again it's not a not a not a not a big earth shadowing issue. However, we felt it was prudent to go ahead and take the step of doing a city initiated annexation to just physically make sure it's now within to annex it into our into [1:12:37, 1:12:45]: our into our boundaries. So this will become a part of our city. And plus it certainly gives some additional options going forward with the adjacent property. [1:12:45, 1:12:56]: So again, this is more of a housekeeping matter. This is this this is one of those things that's kinda rubbed me ever since I've been here, since we opened up the um the trail so we need to go ahead and get this taken care of and get it addressed, so [1:12:56, 1:13:04]: So this is scheduled to come up on the next um council meeting this will february twentieth, I'm sorry. Excuse me. [1:13:06, 1:13:07]: Okay. [1:13:07, 1:13:21]: Is that the end of the presentation? Did we interrupt? Okay. Uh i he's telling us that this is going to be on the next council meeting agenda. Uh any comments at this time? Yes. [1:13:23, 1:13:24]: All right, Councilman. [1:13:24, 1:13:44]: Under the circumstances, this is the city manager, this is something that's long overdue, correct? I I think so. This is something that I think that this council can probably be prudent to move forward with tonight and just you can't do that tonight? No. It's an annexation. We have a else it's an annexation. Okay. Well we have pro. [1:13:44, 1:13:46]: Sorry. Okay. Thanks. I'll withdraw. [1:13:48, 1:13:56]: Okay. All right. We'll move on then. The next item number ten, update of the city's official zoning map, presented by the city manager. [1:13:57, 1:14:00]: Yes, thank you again. Um and this is something that we [1:14:01, 1:14:07]: again another issue we've been working on for a little while. One thing we want to get into the habit of is adopting our [1:14:07, 1:14:08]: Uh [1:14:08, 1:14:14]: of readopting our annual zoning map annually, every ideally every beginning of every year. [1:14:15, 1:14:24]: Now throughout the year there will likely be rezonings that may take place and it may occur. So we'll always have a working a working map layer. However [1:14:24, 1:14:25]: Um [1:14:25, 1:14:36]: we felt it's prudent for our standpoint to go ahead and move forward with um adopting a for formally adopting our our something something that should be done basically every year. I think the last one was eleven [1:14:37, 1:14:40]: twelve was the last time it was adopted. Um so [1:14:40, 1:14:44]: Um we've made some updates. The only real substantive change [1:14:44, 1:14:48]: is something that our city attorney worked on. [1:14:49, 1:14:50]: And [1:14:52, 1:14:53]: It's [1:14:53, 1:14:55]: A little bit difficult to see, but [1:14:56, 1:14:59]: In the area I can kinda put it on the on the cursor. [1:15:00, 1:15:02]: In this area where the railroad is [1:15:02, 1:15:07]: All of them through here you kinda see where my cursor's running. That's our that's actually the railroad location. [1:15:07, 1:15:12]: There's a thin brown line and this represents a new zoning district, X one, I believe it is. [1:15:13, 1:15:13]: Attorney. [1:15:13, 1:15:14]: Um [1:15:15, 1:15:21]: And what this does is it it it it one, it creates a zoning district for the purpose of being able to put [1:15:22, 1:15:24]: prohibitions on what can or cannot [1:15:24, 1:15:26]: occur within that area. [1:15:26, 1:15:32]: And the reason why this is important is because what's happened in the past has kind of become a little bit of a loophole. [1:15:33, 1:15:49]: Um areas where there is railroad right of way has not been in in in jurisdictions where it has not been in has not been zoned, there's no zoning associated with that right of way, they were allowed to come in and do certain things that the community may not have wanted. [1:15:49, 1:15:55]: Um there is a there's a there's a very bright example of this on Eagles Landing Parkway. [1:15:55, 1:15:58]: Um about a year, year and a half ago, a billboard was erected. [1:15:59, 1:16:03]: on Eagles Landing Park property not far going over the bridge, not far from Gold's Gym. [1:16:04, 1:16:08]: That sign was erected on the railroad right away. [1:16:09, 1:16:11]: And the issue was [1:16:11, 1:16:12]: While people [1:16:13, 1:16:17]: A lot of people didn't want that to happen even from at the time I was up with the with the county [1:16:17, 1:16:22]: The issue was it became a legal matter because there was no zoning associated with it [1:16:22, 1:16:28]: there was no presses or nothing that would that would allow us to to prohibit that type of use. [1:16:29, 1:16:47]: So this is a way for us to kind of clean up that loophole to protect our interests going forward. So you know, I I commend uh the city attorney for catching that and making sure we added that to to this map. So um but again we'll also be hearing this for formal discussion on the thirteenth. [1:16:47, 1:16:51]: And for a formal adoption on the thirteenth. Mike, did I leave anything out? [1:16:52, 1:16:55]: Okay. Moving on then, unless there's a comment. [1:16:55, 1:16:58]: to item eleven. [1:16:58, 1:17:07]: I just want to ask them where to cross. Okay. All right. Where to cross the street. I'm trying to figure out where exactly you're talking about that little brown spot used on the map. [1:17:08, 1:17:12]: If I'm gonna put my cursor on it. Everywhere will you see see my cursor here? [1:17:14, 1:17:15]: You see that on the [1:17:16, 1:17:18]: Right down at the very bottom, near the bottom. [1:17:19, 1:17:25]: That's the railroad. So everywhere the railroad touches city property, as you can see, it kinda goes in and out. [1:17:25, 1:17:32]: So in this area down across here where it's adjacent to city property, that line is and again we can give you we'll have you a bigger copy. [1:17:33, 1:17:37]: But in areas where it's white, those areas that are on both sides unincorporated in Henry County. [1:17:38, 1:17:47]: again, we can't zone property outside of our boundaries. So it's where the railroad runs that's adjacent to our our property. So along the Rock Warry obviously and extending up [1:17:47, 1:17:52]: uh up along right through our downtown obviously and up um East Atlanta Road. [1:17:53, 1:18:09]: Question, just one questions. Yes, please deliver. Councilman Alexander. In terms of this zoning update, we've had some issues come forward, like we had uh the family dollar in front of Monarch Village and oh have in ha has any of that been addressed [1:18:10, 1:18:12]: In any of these zones where we want um [1:18:13, 1:18:22]: un or or businesses that are undesirable or or or type businesses. Has any any work been done on that or is this just [1:18:23, 1:18:43]: Yeah, what this represents is our current zoning as of today. You know, that's what this that's what this is a reflection of. Um certainly if there's areas that council wants to consider for perhaps city initiated rezonings, those are areas we can go back through, take uh take an accurate map now and look at those areas to determine it's something we want to take further steps to [1:18:43, 1:18:49]: [4730.5, 4733.6]: Okay. But this is simply a snapshot of what's on what's on the ground right now. [1:18:54, 1:18:55]: Do we have other questions? [1:18:57, 1:18:59]: Not we'll move on to item eleven. [1:19:01, 1:19:06]: Request for amendment of the city zoning code in regards to brick facades. [1:19:07, 1:19:15]: Madam Mayor, this is a uh request um that was actually initiated by a a council member um in [1:19:15, 1:19:17]: Looking at our uh [1:19:17, 1:19:20]: our uh commercial development standards. [1:19:21, 1:19:23]: as they're laid out in the zoning code. [1:19:24, 1:19:25]: Um the the [1:19:25, 1:19:28]: request was to enhance the [1:19:29, 1:19:34]: uh development standards to provide for increased uh minimum brick [1:19:34, 1:19:36]: uh facades. [1:19:36, 1:19:41]: Um so in looking at what we currently have, you have I guess I'll put it up on the screen. [1:19:43, 1:19:44]: Is it up there? [1:19:48, 1:19:49]: Put that in there. [1:19:50, 1:19:57]: So while while he's doing that, what we currently have is a requirement that only references [1:19:58, 1:20:06]: uh the types of materials, but it doesn't have a specific minimum requirement for brick. Um and if you look at some other communities [1:20:07, 1:20:14]: um for new construction, they're requiring a lot more brick than um what we've seen historically here in Stockbridge. [1:20:14, 1:20:22]: Um so what we did was we um paired um our what we have currently and compared that with what we [1:20:22, 1:20:42]: require in our downtown overlay um which is just the downtown area for new construction in the downtown area we actually require a three sides brick um which is really both sides at the rear and then for the front we have a fifty percent brick requirement. Um that's [1:20:42, 1:20:45]: only the downtown area. We don't um [1:20:45, 1:20:47]: uh provide that [1:20:47, 1:20:50]: uh city wide. So what we did was we [1:20:51, 1:20:52]: Presented [1:20:52, 1:20:55]: what we have in the downtown overlay to the [1:20:55, 1:20:59]: zoning advisory board last night and [1:20:59, 1:21:00]: Um [1:21:00, 1:21:05]: you you have your notes uh or the the uh the minutes from last night [1:21:06, 1:21:11]: They seemed gen generally receptive to what was proposed, but they have some more [1:21:12, 1:21:17]: questions and so they did not vote on it. They actually voted really to [1:21:17, 1:21:19]: table it to for us to bring back. [1:21:19, 1:21:22]: some uh more um information to them. [1:21:22, 1:21:26]: It's currently set to be uh before the city council [1:21:27, 1:21:29]: At the same time as these other matters. [1:21:29, 1:21:34]: Um I think your zoning advisory board would request that you all table that. [1:21:34, 1:21:39]: Um you could still have the hearing and then table final um vote until [1:21:39, 1:21:41]: They come back with a recommendation. [1:21:41, 1:21:44]: There were a few areas that they had questions about. [1:21:45, 1:21:47]: Um the first is [1:21:47, 1:21:51]: Uh with respect to the buildings, the downtown [1:21:52, 1:21:58]: overlay covers both commercial and industrial and as you all know there's not really a lot of industrial down there. [1:21:59, 1:22:02]: Um so the question is city wide do you want [1:22:02, 1:22:02]: Both [1:22:03, 1:22:10]: commercial and industrial buildings to be wrapped in brick. Uh it may make sense for commercial but not necessarily for industrial. [1:22:11, 1:22:13]: So that's s one issue out there. [1:22:14, 1:22:15]: Um there is a m uh [1:22:15, 1:22:21]: a minor issue regarding um vinyl w we we don't allow vinyl siding. [1:22:22, 1:22:28]: Um but the downtown standards allow vinyl for Eaves and Soffits, those are kind of where [1:22:28, 1:22:30]: Where the the wall hits the roof. [1:22:30, 1:22:31]: In that little section. [1:22:32, 1:22:35]: Um so that's something for further discussion. [1:22:35, 1:22:36]: Um [1:22:36, 1:22:41]: And then one issue that came up with that we didn't discuss with the zoning advisory board, but [1:22:42, 1:22:48]: um it it may merit some discussion um going forward is whether you want the same [1:22:49, 1:22:49]: Uh break. [1:22:50, 1:22:54]: standard to apply to hotels. You know, a lot of the hotels out there are [1:22:55, 1:22:58]: are doing, you know, more metal and glass and and [1:22:58, 1:23:00]: Things of that sort. [1:23:00, 1:23:05]: Um and this is requiring a brick and so you may wanna carve the that out [1:23:05, 1:23:09]: Um but for all those reasons they just want more time and I [1:23:09, 1:23:11]: probably would recommend to you all [1:23:12, 1:23:14]: um to have the public hearing [1:23:14, 1:23:18]: um but table final uh consideration until we can [1:23:18, 1:23:23]: flesh out a a more comprehensive proposal that would work everywhere in the city. [1:23:24, 1:23:27]: Okay. Any comments before we move on? [1:23:29, 1:23:49]: Councilman Alexander. Yes, uh obviously this is something that I brought forward and in response to some of the things that you just said, obviously industrial uh that is that not the case in these other cities, they don't do industrial writing. No, sir. Okay, so staying consistent with that would be uh commercial only. And [1:23:49, 1:23:58]: And uh I think that um in terms of local cities, I believe Locust Grove has this requirement, McDonough, Fistrich City. [1:23:58, 1:24:00]: uh has those requirements, is that correct? [1:24:01, 1:24:01]: I have the [1:24:02, 1:24:05]: I can't speak for all those, but most of them do. [1:24:05, 1:24:06]: Okay. [1:24:06, 1:24:07]: All right. Thank you. [1:24:08, 1:24:11]: Any other comments? Um Pro Tem Ford. [1:24:11, 1:24:13]: Mike, I think you addressed this. I just want to make sure I understand. [1:24:14, 1:24:24]: The proposal statement that that that you addressed and that's in front of us here that was based on the downtown area, uh but yet uh we want to look at doing this uh entire city wide. [1:24:25, 1:24:29]: commercial businesses primary, not industrial. And then um [1:24:29, 1:24:46]: And then you mentioned we may want to look at when we talk about hotels and may look look at something a little different for hotels. Want them to be looking good, but may not want to tag them just with the the brick facade because they can do other things to dec be decorative and be attractive. Okay. Um [1:24:46, 1:24:58]: Now, if commercials don't commercial businesses we pass this and commercial businesses don't have this, are we gonna I guess up to us whether or not we grandfather them or make them change. I guess it's further discussion that we need to have. [1:24:58, 1:25:08]: All the existing typically are grandfathered in um under the caveat that if if they rebuild then they ha has to apply to the new standard or if they do [1:25:08, 1:25:14]: a major renovation that's more than a certain square footage or dollar value of the building. [1:25:15, 1:25:20]: Then at that point these standards trigger in but typically existing our grandfather. [1:25:20, 1:25:21]: All right. [1:25:21, 1:25:21]: Thank you. [1:25:23, 1:25:35]: Okay. Any other questions on this subject? Yes, Mayor Well. Councilman Gantt. Um I've looked at s the proposed standards or or request [1:25:35, 1:25:40]: And I I'm glad they kinda h held back on actually vetting on it right now. [1:25:40, 1:25:40]: Um [1:25:41, 1:25:45]: Uh some of my concerns are I think that it possibly can be a little bit more detailed. [1:25:46, 1:26:06]: Um I looked and compared it to um say some of the city of Suwanee and Duluth and some of the other areas and they actually have a chart that lists out the different zoning um for each property, whether it's commercial or what type of commercial property it is, and it has [1:26:05, 1:26:13]: a table there in a chart that says brick, s you know, stone or whatever. Not only that [1:26:13, 1:26:15]: But it details that [1:26:15, 1:26:28]: Just because you have brick doesn't mean you can paint the brick. So certain standards that I think th that language particularly probably we could add to it to make sure that we are, you know, it [1:26:29, 1:26:37]: you know, people try to find that great area. So I just want to make sure that we have it, you know, really narrowly tailored there. Okay. [1:26:39, 1:26:50]: Okay, no more questions on item eleven. We'll move on to uh item number twelve, fiber optics connection. This was brought to us by Councilman Alexander, he would like to present. [1:26:51, 1:27:11]: Yes, ladies and gentlemen. This is uh the fiber optics initiative is something that we had uh in the budget last year. Um we've uh understanding that uh our endeavor, or in my own opinion, is to put forward and to attract quality businesses to our [1:27:11, 1:27:31]: community. We've endeavored to build the infrastructure, to work on downtown development, and doing so would be incredibly enhanced by having all city businesses connect to a citywide fiber optic networks. Local cities [1:27:31, 1:27:51]: like McDonough has already expanded CityLink where they have uh citywide or or they're working towards citywide uh Wi-Fi. So you could go to the park, uh Big Springs Park in McDonough, Avalon Park, and you can actually access Wi-Fi, the city's the square, uh as well [1:27:51, 1:28:10]: well. As we become a more pedestrian friendly uh community, that's something that uh would enhance our attractiveness uh to business. I hear citizens talk about infrastructure all the time. There's also i you know most of the time that discussion revolves around [1:28:10, 1:28:30]: uh roads and uh sewer and water and that type of thing. But in this situation to attract uh high paying jobs uh in the technology industry those jobs require sufficient um infrastructure and technology. I think uh this council ha came [1:28:30, 1:28:49]: to a consensus uh in the previous budget that we were going to move forward with uh fiber optics um connecting all city businesses. And the one thing that um you know it's twenty seventeen now. And in twenty seventeen if we move forward with uh allotting for [1:28:50, 1:29:10]: uh the um fiber optic connect connectivity for all city buildings. Imagine that and what that would do for um our all of our businesses down here, even at Merrill Manners Conference Center and all of our city provided uh venues to have that be put in place. Uh [1:29:09, 1:29:26]: uh it would outs it would actually make us uh actually catch up with the crowd because there's many uh local municipalities that have already moved forward with this. Uh the county, Henry County has already moved forward with it uh as well. [1:29:26, 1:29:30]: Uh what I wanted to do in my uh [1:29:30, 1:29:50]: endeavor is to keep us competitive at the very top side of attracting jobs. If you look at uh our unemployment rate, our unemployment rate has tended to be about two uh points higher to one and a half point higher. That gap has started to close uh within the last um [1:29:50, 1:30:10]: um year or so. And we want to continue that up with mu momentum. As we go to uh the Aerotropolis Atlanta meetings of regional of our regional partners, everybody is moving forward with technology. And you know on the north side, the north side is probably [1:30:10, 1:30:25]: about a decade ahead of us and they are the tech capital. When you look at the alparettas of the world, they are tech capitals. They are attracting those tech businesses. We are literally in the shadow of Hartsville Jackson International Airport. [1:30:25, 1:30:31]: we can attract those businesses by moving forward with this. [1:30:31, 1:30:51]: I think we have seen uh over the time that uh uh tax uh sales tax amount, the loss tax and some of the other revenue are up. They are coming in at numbers uh higher than uh in past years as we add more retail. The one thing that I want to do for every single [1:30:51, 1:31:11]: citizen out there, even though Stockbridge does not have a city tax, is to bring more commercial here to the city. By bringing more commercial here, that punts down the road the day when that tax may be required or if it ever if it w when it is, because the more dollars that we can [1:31:11, 1:31:26]: can bring into the city on the commercial side, the less the property tax owners uh will be impacted. But moving forward with this technology infrastructure improves the city's position. [1:31:26, 1:31:46]: remarkably in terms of our ability to attract new business. Um again that amount uh that was already put in last year's budget was three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Uh it was removed from the budget and it was stated that in twenty seventeen we would move forward with it in a budget amendment. We have [1:31:46, 1:32:06]: already agreed at this point to move forward with it in the year twenty seventeen. And I think we know that uh revenues will be up and there is potential. I think the city manager even mentioned it uh in his interview with the Henry Harold that you know there may be uh potential property situations [1:32:06, 1:32:26]: Where we're able to trade some of the former DDA properties for additional income or revenue in the city, and that's uh that will help cover the cost. But right now I think we had our auditor here earlier. Last year we had an eighty-seven percent fund balance. [1:32:26, 1:32:33]: balance and this year we b actually brought in more uh loss tax than we brought in previously. [1:32:34, 1:32:44]: I would just say to you all tonight, today, this council has already previously committed to moving forward with fiber optics, and I think we should do that. [1:32:46, 1:32:50]: Thank you for those comments, Councilman, on the presentation. Do we have any comments? [1:32:53, 1:32:57]: All right, thank you so much. We'll move on to number thirteen, public safety. [1:32:57, 1:33:01]: uh comments that uh Councilman Alexander wants to make. [1:33:03, 1:33:07]: Um ladies and gentlemen, I think we were uh as a municipal group [1:33:08, 1:33:11]: We were at uh we went to Hampton. [1:33:11, 1:33:24]: And all of us, it was great to see everybody in the county come together. It was all the city officials, the county commissioners, um, the mayors, city council, everybody was there. [1:33:25, 1:33:36]: It was great to see the teamwork and the togetherness. Douglas Hooker from the executive director from the Atlanta Regional Commission was there. He was very excited about our community. [1:33:36, 1:33:49]: The Atlanta Regional Commission has done some extensive studies on our community. They did studies on traffic, they did studies um on uh crime, they did studies on infrastructure. [1:33:49, 1:33:51]: It was surprising to me that [1:33:51, 1:33:56]: And to some of us, um, you know, I want to speak to something that came up. [1:33:56, 1:34:02]: The number one thing that came up in our community was crime. It was number one on the list. [1:34:03, 1:34:20]: That really surprised me. And and and tonight I think we're going to hear from the North Precinct Commander. Henry County has one of the lowest uh crime rates in Metro Atlanta. But in the survey the Atlanta Regional Commission did, crime was absolutely number one at the top of the list. [1:34:21, 1:34:41]: But that kind of defies logic when we have one of the lowest crime rates uh in the city of Stockbridge in the city of Stockbridge and in Henry County in general. Uh I would like you know, we want to do everything that we possibly can to speak to, to assure the citizens that we're doing everything that we can and personally I think we want [1:34:41, 1:34:42]: [5682.6, 5702.6]: uh adding or bolstering that security in some ways in addition to using the part time officers uh that we have uh patrolling our parks now uh under our purview to be able to allow those my in my opinion to allow those officers working for us to actually be able to patrol parking lots [1:35:02, 1:35:22]: our trailhead, our shopping centers, in addition to Henry County Police, protecting citizens because there is some uh legitimate concern out there when we have citizens who's had their window smashed and then um you go from that point to the shock of having your laptop being missing when you [1:35:22, 1:35:25]: come back to the community. We can't stand for that. [1:35:25, 1:35:37]: I can say right now that our our Henry County Police Department has done a great job, but citizens you have been heard. You have been heard when you said cri rank crime number one. And we want to bring some [1:35:38, 1:35:44]: facts to the perceptions and have um the North Precinct Commander address you tonight. [1:35:46, 1:35:55]: Thank you. Are there any comments on that issue? If not, um our city manager has a presentation at this point. Oh sorry. [1:35:55, 1:35:58]: We do have a comment from Councilman Blount. [1:35:58, 1:35:59]: Just a real quick um [1:36:00, 1:36:02]: On the survey that was given it was [1:36:02, 1:36:22]: given to less than one percent of Henry County, uh far as the city of Stockbridge is concerned. Uh they said about maybe about four hundred citizens and in in in total. So those numbers uh and we hope some facts people will seek facts because those numbers uh can be fudged. If I went from one to two that's [1:36:22, 1:36:42]: hundred percent difference. So we um we hope that everyone will look at the facts instead of looking at those percentages'cause uh when they do those surveys they only survey just a small amount of people that it turn and but they bring back those uh uh results of the surveys and they're they're not as correct'cause as they could be if you would survey do those surveys yourselves. [1:36:42, 1:36:49]: Thank you. If there are no other comments at this time we'll ask our city manager to come forth. He has some comments and an introduction. [1:36:54, 1:37:04]: Thank you again. I'm gonna try to be relatively brief. I do have before I bring up um the new precinct commander, I did wanna bring up one other issue in regards to [1:37:04, 1:37:05]: Um [1:37:05, 1:37:08]: quarterly meeting and meeting updates. Um and [1:37:09, 1:37:29]: the council at earlier meeting talked about you know kind of straying away from some of the committee meetings. So what I'd like to do moving forward is offer um quarterly town hall updates, if you will, to take place during our work sessions. Um this would give both the council members as well as the city [1:37:29, 1:37:47]: citizens in the public an opportunity to kind of hear from key departments. Um those departments, you know, at this point we're looking at um a finance update, public works update. Um we're in the process of hiring economic development directors to have an economic development update which would include, you know, components from Main Street, our D D A, um [1:37:48, 1:37:56]: and what's going on in those regards, as well as an update from our our Henry County PD on some of the things that have transpired within that uh quarter. So [1:37:56, 1:38:12]: Again, I I think just kind of taking this and structuring it, particularly in lieu of um of not having the the the committee structure, I think it would still give citizens an opportunity um to view it either in person or online and then be able to provide information to the council and to the public. [1:38:12, 1:38:16]: And doing these again doesn't have to be anything long or drawn out, but certainly just [1:38:17, 1:38:19]: be able to come in quarterly to provide information. [1:38:19, 1:38:22]: address any questions, immediate questions that the council may have. [1:38:22, 1:38:26]: I think this would be of um of of tremendous benefit for [1:38:26, 1:38:37]: for the council and for the public. Um and you know, again, terming these as town halls to allow people to have an understanding of, you know, doing this formally as part of the meeting as well. [1:38:37, 1:38:40]: Um so again the thought being that we would do this [1:38:40, 1:38:41]: during the work sessions. [1:38:42, 1:38:42]: Um [1:38:42, 1:38:57]: identified a few dates um april twenty fifth, july twenty fifth, October twenty fourth, and december nineteenth. And we're still finalizing these and these represent the first work session meeting after the at the end after the end of the quarter. [1:38:58, 1:38:58]: So I think [1:38:59, 1:39:05]: Um, I'd like to compliment the city manager for coming up with this idea to update us so that [1:39:06, 1:39:26]: I know I heard uh Councilman Alexander talking about doing uh a budget amendment um possibly later on. Quarterly updates on our finances will give us a good window vision into how the year is going. So I wanna thank you for that because I feel like the public will [1:39:26, 1:39:30]: enjoy learning about our finances on a quarterly basis. [1:39:30, 1:39:41]: Um not just that but other things, but that's very important of course. Thank you so much. And there is a comment from Councilman Alexand I mean um Pro Tem Ford. [1:39:41, 1:39:42]: He's my buddy, Daddy. [1:39:43, 1:40:03]: Uh what I want to know is that uh give a confirmation. I said thumbs up. I think it's a great idea. If you're looking for uh fur uh affirmation, I think it's good. So I I agree with that. So that was kind of bringing up and to get any comments you had back. Obviously, we got a little bit of time before the April meeting, but um again I think this would allow one allow us time, everyone's all in the [1:40:03, 1:40:04]: agreement with it. [1:40:04, 1:40:08]: And you have to kind of prepare and get all those components in place. Um [1:40:09, 1:40:29]: You know, and allow us to adequately prepare for it again. A nice quick brief updates to again keep everybody up to date and and abreast of what's going on and what's happening. So that's the intent. I think you're smiling at the brief part. Yes ma'am. Um so if in if there's no other questions. [1:40:29, 1:40:30]: Um [1:40:31, 1:40:47]: What I'd like to do now at this time is and again it's been mentioned already, if they can come on up, I'd like to introduce formally introduce mo a lot of people already know um Captain Philip Bratton, been with the been in law enforcement for a decade, I think at this point, and he can give you more of his background. Um [1:40:48, 1:41:02]: has joined the Henry County Police Department in December of two thousand five and has literally rolls up the ranks to the position of Captain now. He takes over as the precinct the North Precinct commander um following um Captain Gray who was reassigned. [1:41:02, 1:41:06]: Um so we're thrilled I have been I've had n personally had the opportunity to work with [1:41:06, 1:41:12]: with Captain Brad and at the county for you know some years back and you know the consummate professional and everything that he does so [1:41:13, 1:41:18]: With that I will introduce Captain Philip Bratton, the new precinct commander here in City Stockbridge. [1:41:23, 1:41:32]: Mayor O'Neill, um Mayor Pro Tem Ford and other council members, I want to thank you for the opportunity to stand before you and and speak with you this afternoon. [1:41:32, 1:41:35]: Um when I was told I would have an opportunity to come in [1:41:35, 1:41:38]: be in charge of the Stock Ridge precinct, I was elected. [1:41:38, 1:41:40]: Because I started out here [1:41:40, 1:41:43]: And back in two thousand and five as an officer. [1:41:43, 1:41:47]: And I rose to the rank as Michael Harris said, uh to the position where I'm at right now. [1:41:48, 1:41:49]: This is not my first time here. [1:41:50, 1:41:54]: I I came in two thousand and five as an officer. I was back here again in two thousand uh [1:41:54, 1:41:59]: ten uh excuse me, seven as a sergeant briefly before I went down south and [1:41:59, 1:42:01]: Work down in the uh South Precinct. [1:42:01, 1:42:03]: as a patrol supervisor. [1:42:03, 1:42:05]: And unfortunately I got promoted. [1:42:05, 1:42:08]: to the rank of lieutenant and I got a chance to come back to Stockbridge. [1:42:08, 1:42:11]: And be a day watch precinct, uh [1:42:11, 1:42:13]: Uh no not precinct, I did not precinct. [1:42:14, 1:42:24]: And I got an opportunity to work some of those issues on the daytime and work with some of the other um uh issues that were ongoing with the with the uh city and um got my h my feet wet and I really like doing that. [1:42:25, 1:42:34]: Uh but I couldn't stay up here too long because I got tapped to go and and be the internal affairs commander down in the at uh the South Precinct. So I worked there for about a year, working issues from [1:42:35, 1:42:37]: of s allegations of arts and misconduct. [1:42:37, 1:42:40]: up into just citizen complaints in general. [1:42:40, 1:42:46]: So they have a extensive background in working with the with with complaints and working with with citizens and trying to resolve certain issues. [1:42:47, 1:42:51]: And I welcome an opportunity to do that here as well if if if I have to have that chance to do that. [1:42:52, 1:42:55]: But uh then I've got tapped uh the D the precinct commander. [1:42:55, 1:42:58]: uh of the South Precinct in the southern end of the county. [1:42:58, 1:43:00]: And I did that for about two years. [1:43:01, 1:43:03]: And then all of a sudden I got an opportunity to come up here and work. [1:43:03, 1:43:08]: And I was asked to come up here and I just smiled and I said, I'm glad to come home. [1:43:08, 1:43:12]: So I'm back up here and I'm glad to be here. And I look forward to providing uh [1:43:12, 1:43:13]: Quality police services. [1:43:14, 1:43:16]: to the citizens of um Stock Bridge. [1:43:17, 1:43:17]: Um [1:43:18, 1:43:21]: I look forward to working on all those issues that are out there on the table right now. [1:43:21, 1:43:22]: Crime is everywhere. [1:43:22, 1:43:25]: Okay, and we are the ones out here fighting it. [1:43:25, 1:43:27]: And I can tell you it's out there so [1:43:27, 1:43:29]: I know y'all's concerns regarding crime. [1:43:30, 1:43:33]: And I also know the concerns regarding the the county regarding crime. [1:43:33, 1:43:36]: We have to put those assets and resources in the right place and [1:43:37, 1:43:44]: We're doing the best thing that we can to do that. Our department is looking at some things that to to help strengthen us and also provide that quality of service to the communities. [1:43:45, 1:43:47]: And Stockbridge is on that list. [1:43:47, 1:43:48]: So um [1:43:49, 1:43:51]: Uh that's basically all I have and I'm glad to be here. [1:43:52, 1:44:01]: We appreciate you so much. Uh the city manager and I had a nice meeting with the captain this afternoon and I walked away from that we meeting feeling [1:44:01, 1:44:09]: Extremely proud that we have a gentleman of honor who's gonna lead our police services in Stockbridge and we appreciate that and [1:44:09, 1:44:20]: We hope you'll take back a message to all the officers how much we support them and anything we can do from our end, we want to do that to help. Thank you so much. [1:44:27, 1:44:32]: City Manager, Michael Harris, do you have anything else to add before we move on? [1:44:35, 1:44:55]: Okay. I'd like to say before I uh ask the council to uh if they have any comments, we would like to always thank everyone who attends these meetings. We appreciate you so much. And uh at this time I'll just say thank you. And if anyone else on the council has a closing comment, please speak. [1:44:55, 1:44:56]: Yeah. [1:45:00, 1:45:02]: Fine. [1:45:03, 1:45:08]: Well I asked if anyone has come in, please speak up. It doesn't matter where you start but [1:45:08, 1:45:28]: Yeah, I'd like to thank everybody for coming out as well. And I just want to let everybody know that uh you know it's my desire and I think uh the the rest of the council to do is to build you the quality community uh that you want. And to know that the door is always open. You have any questions, please feel free to come forward to talk to us and ask. [1:45:28, 1:45:32]: ask questions, the door is always open, but I have heard you. [1:45:32, 1:45:37]: and the issues that you want to'cause I've been out in the community and I'm there every single day. [1:45:37, 1:45:47]: And I I I love to hear t and talk to citizens one on one to hear what's going on in your community. So thank you so much. [1:45:48, 1:45:49]: Anyone else? [1:45:50, 1:45:52]: I just want to say that uh [1:45:53, 1:46:06]: What you see is what you get from me. I'm here to serve the community. Um I don't play politics. What you hear from me and what you my passion that you see, that's who I am and that's what I want to present to you all. Thanks. [1:46:07, 1:46:07]: Okay. [1:46:07, 1:46:27]: Yes, citizens, thank you for being engaged. Um and this is the end of the month of January, so we're just getting started in two thousand seventeen, but more more to follow, more good things will happen in the city, and you'll see that. So be engaged with us. I also want you to know that uh you notice that the uh council is in red and black and uh I want you to know that I [1:46:27, 1:46:38]: I am a Saints fan, but but but I know I live here in the Atlanta metro area and I'm gonna rise up with everybody else NFC South [1:46:39, 1:46:41]: Falcons, go forward, win this game. [1:46:42, 1:46:58]: I cannot stand New England and I know you don't either. So I I I'm I'm going to pull for NFC South and the Five C we need a championship in this city and I do live here. I gotta live among y'all, you know what I mean? So anyway, once again, rise up nations. Take care. [1:47:02, 1:47:03]: Uh it's a moment. [1:47:03, 1:47:23]: You don't have anything? Okay. Um I just want to say thank you to everyone um for coming out um tonight. Also welcome our new captain. Um again, welcome. We got some shoes to fill because we're definitely gonna miss Captain Gray, but we're definitely welcoming you with open arms. Um and also just want to say we didn't [1:47:23, 1:47:40]: did our ribbon cutting for I seventy five South that went extremely well. So definitely we'll need for the citizens to try that out and have your peach pass. Um so that is available for the next probably now thirteen, twelve days uh for free. So you definitely want to try that out. But again [1:47:41, 1:47:44]: to our captain, welcome to the city of Stockbridge. [1:47:46, 1:48:06]: Okay. Um I think that concludes our meeting. I would like to encourage you to um go online, sign up so that you can get notifications about all of our upcoming meetings. We do have some coming up, a council retreat, Main Street Advisory Board meeting, council meeting. [1:48:06, 1:48:25]: which will be on february thirteenth. Councilman Alexander is hosting a town hall meeting uh during the month. The Stockbridge Zoning Advisory Board will be meeting, Downtown Development Authority Board meeting and a council work session will be coming up at the end of uh February. [1:48:25, 1:48:26]: Um [1:48:27, 1:48:47]: At this point we are going to go li I believe we're gonna go into executive session for just a few minutes. So anyone who would like to wait, we have a couple of items on the um executive session agenda and we'll come back and report that to you. But I believe before we go um our city manager has one. [1:48:47, 1:49:07]: Last thought. Yes, thank you, Madam Mayor and I apologize. Um I did want to remind everyone in the community that um Stockbridge has um joined with the other cities in Henry County to collect goods for our neighbors down in Albany that were recently devastated by the storms down there. So we're asking anyone who can. There's a list on [1:49:07, 1:49:26]: on our website but non perishable food items, cleaning supplies, um toiletries, things of that nature. If they can bring it here to City Hall, um by the close of business on this Friday, February third, we'll be um partnering with all the other cities to make sure all those supplies are taken down to assist the the families in in Albany. [1:49:26, 1:49:46]: Thank you. Well for those who are listening online I want to put an addendum note onto that. Um not only are we collecting supplies that will help with the um tornado victims in Albany, we also are accepting on their behalf Walmart gift cards. That is [1:49:46, 1:50:06]: a lot um easier sometimes to transport and useful on on the ground in Albany. So anyone in this audience or listening online, if you will donate a Walmart gift card, you can bring that to City Hall. If you live further in the county, you can drop it off at any city hall in the county. [1:50:06, 1:50:14]: County. The goal is to help the people of Albany. Thank you so much. We'll be right back. We're going to executive session. [1:50:15, 1:50:17]: Thank you. [1:50:19, 1:50:22]: [6623.3, 6624.8]: Okay, do I hear that motion? [1:50:26, 1:50:26]: Madam Mayor. [1:50:27, 1:50:30]: I move that we go into executive session for personnel. [1:50:30, 1:50:32]: Real estate and litigation. [1:50:32, 1:50:33]: Second. [1:50:34, 1:50:36]: Any discussion? [1:50:37, 1:50:38]: If not, all in favor? [1:50:39, 1:50:41]: Okay, we're going into executive session. [1:50:49, 1:50:49]: Oh. [1:50:53, 1:51:00]: [6661.4, 6662.5]: I'll try. [1:51:03, 1:51:05]: [6667.5, 6671.7]: Yes, I think. [1:51:44, 1:51:50]: [6719.4, 6721.4]: Yeah, but [1:52:17, 1:52:18]: That's enough. [1:52:27, 1:52:30]: Well she's building all [1:52:36, 1:52:37]: Uh [1:52:50, 1:52:50]: Okay. [1:52:53, 1:53:01]: At this time we need a motion to end the executive session. Mayor Neal. I make a motion to end executive session. [1:53:01, 1:53:05]: Thank you both of you for that. Um, is there any discussion? [1:53:07, 1:53:09]: All in favor to conclude the meeting? [1:53:10, 1:53:10]: Thank you. [1:53:11, 1:53:16]: At this time I need a motion if we are to go back into session. [1:53:16, 1:53:21]: Mayor Neil, I move that we go back into our regular scheduled meeting. Okay, I need a second. [1:53:21, 1:53:23]: Any discussion? [1:53:23, 1:53:25]: All in favor. [1:53:25, 1:53:26]: Okay. [1:53:26, 1:53:28]: At this time uh we have [1:53:29, 1:53:38]: I believe one uh order um matter of business that occurred in executive session that we're gonna vote on tonight. So I will ask Councilman Gantt to present. [1:53:39, 1:53:52]: Mary, I move that we approve the sale of one hundred thirty five North Park Place building through the Henry County Development Authority and transfer the property to Henry County Development Authority for the purpose [1:53:52, 1:53:56]: For that purpose, the sales price is two point seven million. [1:53:56, 1:53:58]: I second. [1:53:59, 1:54:05]: We have a motion, now we have a second. Do we have any discussion? [1:54:06, 1:54:08]: If not, all in favour. [1:54:10, 1:54:18]: None opposed, so that passed. At this time do I ha hear a motion to conclude the evening meeting? So moved. [1:54:18, 1:54:20]: Any discussion on that? [1:54:21, 1:54:21]: A second. [1:54:22, 1:54:25]: I need a second. A second. Okay. Any discussion? [1:54:26, 1:54:26]: No. [1:54:26, 1:54:27]: All right. [1:54:28, 1:54:29]: Uh all in favour? [1:54:30, 1:54:33]: Thank you for your presence, everyone. [1:54:34, 1:54:38]: Give her a second of that gave her a second for that. [1:54:39, 1:54:41]: I want it. I want the symbol. [1:54:41, 1:54:45]: All right, all right, all right.