2021-10-28 · City Council · Transcript · Planning Commission Meeting

--- title: Planning Commission Meeting date: 2021-10-28 source: 2021-10-28_Planning_Commission_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:30, 0:00:31]: Hey David, do you hear me? [0:00:36, 0:00:36]: Thank you. [0:00:45, 0:00:46]: What you hear you? [0:00:48, 0:00:50]: Oh, you hear me, Stanley? [0:00:51, 0:00:52]: This is IT. We can hear you, sir. [0:00:53, 0:00:56]: Here's the deal, you guys did not send me [0:00:57, 0:00:57]: Uh [0:00:58, 0:01:00]: My Zoom to my email. [0:01:02, 0:01:03]: David or someone else? [0:01:04, 0:01:06]: So what? This is Harold Thibodeau. [0:01:07, 0:01:12]: Errol Thibodeau, okay, I can go in and send you a link. Would you like your own link or you just want me to change your name? [0:01:12, 0:01:16]: You can just change the name for right now, but I need to find out. [0:01:16, 0:01:19]: Why they're not sending me uh [0:01:20, 0:01:23]: My Zoom, I've checked uh spam, everything. [0:01:23, 0:01:25]: It was never sent to me. [0:01:26, 0:01:30]: Yeah, please email Vanessa Holliday. She's the one who sets these up. [0:01:31, 0:01:34]: Okay. Well I'll do that and find out from her. [0:01:36, 0:01:37]: Sounds good. [0:01:42, 0:01:43]: Y acha e. [0:01:51, 0:01:54]: I see it's just still saying connecting to you. [0:03:20, 0:03:21]: [280.2, 280.9]: Abdullah. [0:04:45, 0:04:46]: Did you hear my duple? [0:04:46, 0:04:47]: Okay. [0:04:47, 0:04:47]: You got me? [0:04:49, 0:04:50]: Hey, uh [0:04:51, 0:04:55]: Tried to call you today, I was unable to get to [0:04:56, 0:04:58]: Mm-hmm. Get a message from me. [0:04:59, 0:05:02]: I've been sleep off and on, man. Uh I've been up so [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: I haven't checked the phone. [0:05:06, 0:05:07]: Okay, uh [0:05:08, 0:05:10]: I was just trying to leave you a message, uh [0:05:12, 0:05:16]: on some information. So I guess uh y when you get a chance, call me. [0:05:17, 0:05:19]: And I'll give you that information. [0:05:19, 0:05:21]: All right. I'll call you soon. This is over. [0:05:22, 0:05:23]: Okay, thank you. Sorry. She's not. [0:05:25, 0:05:25]: Yeah. [0:05:29, 0:05:30]: Good evening. [0:05:31, 0:05:32]: And and planning commissioners. [0:05:33, 0:05:35]: Good evening, Ms. Johnson. [0:05:36, 0:05:37]: How are you all doing tonight? [0:05:38, 0:05:39]: I'm outstanding. [0:05:39, 0:05:40]: Wonderful. [0:05:41, 0:05:42]: How are you? [0:05:45, 0:05:46]: Hey you [0:05:47, 0:05:48]: We die. [0:05:48, 0:05:51]: We actually have a a sh pretty short agenda tonight. [0:05:51, 0:05:56]: And I wanna give you all a couple of project updates at the end. So [0:05:57, 0:05:57]: Um [0:05:58, 0:05:59]: Looking forward to it. [0:06:00, 0:06:01]: Okay. [0:06:18, 0:06:22]: I think someone has music playing in the background if you could [0:06:22, 0:06:25]: That's me, I'm sorry. Oh no worries, no worries. [0:06:28, 0:06:29]: Television. [0:06:29, 0:06:31]: Oh no worries. Thank you. [0:06:47, 0:06:51]: Okay, it is six thirty on the dive. Chairman, are you ready to get started? [0:06:52, 0:06:53]: Yes I am. [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: Um [0:06:56, 0:06:57]: Yeah. [0:06:58, 0:06:59]: We have uh [0:07:00, 0:07:01]: Um [0:07:02, 0:07:03]: Who is Miss Uh Logan? [0:07:05, 0:07:08]: Linda, let's go ahead and get started, ma'am. Well it's six thirty, uh [0:07:09, 0:07:11]: Planning commission meeting is called to order. [0:07:12, 0:07:16]: Um if Ms. Logan can or you, Ms. Johnson, want to call uh [0:07:17, 0:07:18]: Uh [0:07:18, 0:07:22]: Mr. Um Doomish, you wanna do an invocation for us? [0:07:23, 0:07:24]: I will. [0:07:26, 0:07:27]: Let us bow our heads, please. [0:07:29, 0:07:40]: Loving God, as we gather here tonight to do the business of the city of Stockbridge, we invite you, God, into this virtual environment. [0:07:41, 0:07:44]: And we pray, God, that you will uh that we will allow your spirit [0:07:45, 0:07:49]: to rule our hearts, to guide our thoughts. [0:07:49, 0:07:51]: And to control our lives. [0:07:52, 0:07:55]: So that we may continue to be service of all. [0:07:56, 0:07:57]: Amen. [0:07:57, 0:07:58]: Amen. [0:08:00, 0:08:01]: Pledge of allegiance. [0:08:02, 0:08:03]: Place you [0:08:03, 0:08:04]: Hand over your heart. [0:08:06, 0:08:07]: I play it. [0:08:07, 0:08:22]: I fled allegiance to the United States of America to the Republic which is standing liberty. [0:08:27, 0:08:28]: Linda, are you with us yet? [0:08:29, 0:08:32]: Yes, I'm with you. Can you hear me? I give okay, give us a roll call. [0:08:32, 0:08:34]: Okay, ask you Abdullah. [0:08:34, 0:08:35]: Present. [0:08:36, 0:08:37]: Harold Thibodeau. [0:08:37, 0:08:38]: Present. [0:08:39, 0:08:40]: Stanley Domus? [0:08:40, 0:08:41]: Present. [0:08:41, 0:08:43]: Kathleen Nelson. [0:08:43, 0:08:44]: Present. [0:08:46, 0:08:47]: David Planchon. [0:08:47, 0:08:48]: Present. [0:08:49, 0:08:50]: Mr. Chairman, we have quorum. [0:08:51, 0:08:52]: Thank you. [0:08:54, 0:08:55]: Uh if you haven't already. [0:08:55, 0:08:58]: You can read the uh previous minutes from September. [0:08:59, 0:09:00]: Mm-hmm. [0:09:00, 0:09:02]: Yeah, September twenty third. [0:09:06, 0:09:07]: And um [0:09:09, 0:09:11]: If we find no arrows or changes. [0:09:12, 0:09:14]: I have a motion to uh [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: Who does mean? [0:09:16, 0:09:18]: Chairman, you can adopt the agenda first. [0:09:19, 0:09:20]: Oh, I'm sorry. [0:09:21, 0:09:22]: Went right over that. [0:09:22, 0:09:24]: Motion to adopt the agenda. [0:09:24, 0:09:25]: For um [0:09:26, 0:09:27]: October twenty eighth. [0:09:30, 0:09:33]: I make a motion to adopt adopt the agenda for October [0:09:34, 0:09:35]: Twenty eighth. [0:09:35, 0:09:37]: I've sucked it back then. [0:09:38, 0:09:40]: All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:09:41, 0:09:42]: All right. [0:09:42, 0:09:43]: Those opposed. [0:09:45, 0:09:47]: Does have it the um [0:09:47, 0:09:48]: Agenda is adopted. [0:09:49, 0:09:54]: chairman chairman who who seconded because i think i heard two voices at the same time [0:09:54, 0:09:55]: I believe it's Mr. Dummers. [0:09:56, 0:09:59]: I said second also, I'm Harold Tibetan. [0:10:00, 0:10:00]: Okay. [0:10:01, 0:10:02]: This is a tie. [0:10:03, 0:10:04]: Pardon me? [0:10:04, 0:10:06]: It's the tie. We gotta jump it up. [0:10:07, 0:10:12]: Okay. [0:10:13, 0:10:24]: Let's review the minutes from September the twenty-third. Uh and if there are no changes. Pardon me. Mr. Chair, may I speak on that? [0:10:24, 0:10:28]: Changes for that for the minutes for September twenty third. [0:10:28, 0:10:29]: Sure, go ahead. [0:10:31, 0:10:33]: I did mention in the in the [0:10:33, 0:10:37]: in the meeting that uh we we had issues with uh [0:10:37, 0:10:39]: Комерціовіклс [0:10:40, 0:10:41]: passing through a [0:10:41, 0:10:42]: Neighborhood. [0:10:42, 0:10:43]: From [0:10:43, 0:10:44]: Thrive time. [0:10:45, 0:10:49]: I I didn't see any anything mentioned about [0:10:50, 0:10:52]: me relating to the fact that uh [0:10:53, 0:10:57]: We need to eventually somewhere down the road correct a problem. [0:10:58, 0:11:00]: With that subdivision having commercial [0:11:01, 0:11:02]: vehicles running through their entire [0:11:03, 0:11:05]: Subdivision. That that wasn't in there. [0:11:06, 0:11:07]: Okay. [0:11:10, 0:11:11]: Mr. Chairman. [0:11:13, 0:11:14]: Yes, sir. [0:11:14, 0:11:19]: I have uh several corrections to the minutes. [0:11:20, 0:11:23]: And uh before I vote to approve. [0:11:23, 0:11:25]: And then I also have a comment. [0:11:25, 0:11:32]: kind of pick it back in on what Mr. Thibodeau has already articulated, but I'll I'll go over the corrections first. [0:11:33, 0:11:37]: Uh, because I think they need to happen before we approve them. [0:11:37, 0:11:41]: Uh item number five with the adoption of the agenda. [0:11:42, 0:11:56]: I it reads the motion to adopt by Mr. Thibodeau, second by Mr. Nelson. Pass 5-0. Well, that's incorrect. We should substitute the Dumas for Thibodeau in that sentence. [0:11:58, 0:12:12]: Uh item number six, approval of the minutes. Uh it reads uh motion to adopt by Ms. Nelson Secker by Mr. Thibodeau. It should read uh [0:12:13, 0:12:16]: Motion by Ms. Nelson, second by Mr. Dumas. [0:12:20, 0:12:23]: And I hope, uh, Madam Secretary, you'll get in these corrections. [0:12:26, 0:12:45]: Item number seven, approval of minutes. It reads uh adopted a motion to adopt by Mr. Thibodeau, second by Mr. Plancher. It should read motion to adopt by Mr. Dumas, second by Mr. Plancher. [0:12:47, 0:12:50]: And item number eight. [0:12:51, 0:12:52]: Election of officers [0:12:54, 0:12:55]: In the second paragraph [0:12:56, 0:13:04]: It reads Chairman Abdullah nominated himself as chairman. Mr. Thibodeau asked for clarification. [0:13:05, 0:13:13]: It should read uh Mr. Doodle nominated himself as chairman. Mr. Dumas asked for clarification. [0:13:14, 0:13:15]: Okay. [0:13:15, 0:13:18]: Then in the final paragraph of that same section. [0:13:20, 0:13:22]: It reads oh [0:13:25, 0:13:31]: Chairman Abdullah stated that he would like to have a vote on vice chairman for the remainder of twenty twenty one. [0:13:31, 0:13:34]: And he nominated Mr. Thibodeau to serve. [0:13:34, 0:13:36]: Mr. Doom has provided the second. [0:13:37, 0:13:41]: That should read Mr. Thibodeau provided the second. [0:13:44, 0:13:48]: So I think we gotta get Mr. Tibetou a ca a camera, uh uh audio. [0:13:48, 0:13:52]: a video because they seem to be confusing him and I. [0:13:54, 0:14:06]: Uh could I just state that we had actually three people taking minutes this time and um and I've just say for myself that I can't always tell who's speaking and it would be helpful if [0:14:07, 0:14:10]: If each person would identify himself or herself. [0:14:12, 0:14:13]: So that we can get [0:14:14, 0:14:15]: Correct. [0:14:15, 0:14:16]: People written down. [0:14:17, 0:14:21]: As far as I agree with you, Miss Logan, that we should say who we are when we make [0:14:21, 0:14:22]: Whatever. [0:14:22, 0:14:24]: statement of situation. [0:14:24, 0:14:28]: Oh, so that that'd be my Christmas present, getting me a new computer. [0:14:29, 0:14:29]: Yeah. Yeah. [0:14:30, 0:14:41]: All right. So I I personally am trying to write notes as fast as I can and trying to look at my paper and then look at the screen to see who's speaking at the same time as [0:14:41, 0:14:43]: Not always that easy. [0:14:44, 0:14:45]: You have a tape recorder? [0:14:46, 0:14:53]: Uh yes, and um I listened to the minutes and so did um we had another person as well. [0:14:53, 0:14:55]: So uh Mr. Chairman, if I may. [0:14:55, 0:15:15]: What we will do to ensure that we get the correct individuals that have made motions and seconds, we will verify that at after each vote to verify who has done the motion, who has done the second. And that is our responsibility on the staff side. But we'll we'll make sure that that happens at the next as we go through this process. [0:15:15, 0:15:19]: Tonight for votes and I'm calling for [0:15:20, 0:15:22]: Okay, is that all, Mr. Dumas? [0:15:22, 0:15:28]: I agree. It is in terms of corrections. I did have a comment to make. [0:15:29, 0:15:32]: But uh in light of what's been said. [0:15:33, 0:15:36]: I'm kind of inclined to just hold on and [0:15:37, 0:15:38]: Lady Riot. [0:15:38, 0:15:39]: Okay. [0:15:39, 0:15:45]: That being said, we uh made the correction that Mr. Dumas um [0:15:45, 0:15:46]: Just point it out. [0:15:46, 0:15:51]: Have a motion to adopt of the uh September twenty-third amendments as amended. [0:15:52, 0:15:58]: Uh Mr. Chair, I have one more item to say to that. Sure. You stated what Mr. Doom is said. [0:15:59, 0:16:03]: But also you need to state what I've said also for correction. [0:16:03, 0:16:04]: In the minute. [0:16:05, 0:16:07]: September twenty third. [0:16:07, 0:16:07]: Okay. [0:16:08, 0:16:11]: The amendments um noted by Mr. Domas and Mr. Thibodeau. [0:16:12, 0:16:17]: Uh the minutes will be uh adopted based on those changes, those corrections. [0:16:17, 0:16:19]: May I have a motion to uh [0:16:20, 0:16:23]: Adopt those minutes from the September twenty third. [0:16:24, 0:16:34]: This is Mr. Dumas. I do move to adopt the minutes with the uh changes, the corrections that has been articulated by myself and Mr. Thibodeau. [0:16:35, 0:16:37]: No, this is Ms. Nelson. I second that. [0:16:38, 0:16:38]: Motion. [0:16:38, 0:16:40]: It's been moved and second. [0:16:40, 0:16:43]: All those in favor, let it body be known by the sign of aye. [0:16:43, 0:16:46]: I suppose. [0:16:46, 0:16:49]: The eyes have it, the uh Septon twenty-third minutes. [0:16:50, 0:16:51]: Adopted as amended. [0:16:54, 0:17:00]: May I ask whether um they still need to be um have a typed correction made to them? [0:17:02, 0:17:04]: Yeah, that's a this is not a [0:17:05, 0:17:06]: Public record. [0:17:06, 0:17:09]: Yeah, matter of public records. So yeah, you have to do that. [0:17:12, 0:17:13]: Thank you, Chairman. [0:17:14, 0:17:16]: Okay. Um excited. [0:17:17, 0:17:19]: That's it for September twenty third. [0:17:20, 0:17:20]: Five minutes. [0:17:21, 0:17:24]: Uh we got new business. [0:17:27, 0:17:31]: We have a recombination plat application for quick trip. [0:17:31, 0:17:32]: Um [0:17:32, 0:17:35]: This requires a decision to approve or disapprove the [0:17:35, 0:17:37]: proposed recombination plat. [0:17:38, 0:17:41]: Case numbers RC two oh two one hyphen oh one [0:17:41, 0:17:43]: recombination plat application. [0:17:44, 0:17:48]: For property at the southeast corner of Eagles Landing Parkway and Patrick Henry Parkway. [0:17:48, 0:17:51]: The applicant is Eric Bickus of Quick Trip. [0:17:51, 0:17:54]: And the property owner is Eagles Landing Partners L L C. [0:17:55, 0:17:59]: They propose to combine parts of three parcels with a fourth parcel to allow for the development [0:18:00, 0:18:02]: Of a quick trip gas station and convenience store. [0:18:03, 0:18:04]: Two new parcels would be created. [0:18:05, 0:18:07]: With quick trip to purchase and use only one of them. [0:18:07, 0:18:10]: The four existing parcels contain a total. [0:18:10, 0:18:12]: Of two point five four acres. [0:18:12, 0:18:15]: And they are identified as follows. Number one. [0:18:15, 0:18:19]: Parcel number O five one, hyphen O one oh one one thousand. [0:18:19, 0:18:26]: with point oh five with point five nine six acres. This is located at twelve thirty nine Eagles Landing. [0:18:27, 0:18:29]: In landlot twenty of district six. [0:18:30, 0:18:30]: Number two. [0:18:31, 0:18:35]: Parcel number 051, hyphen 0101-1023. [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: With point four seven three acres. [0:18:38, 0:18:42]: Located at 1235 Eagles Landing Parkway in late land lot twenty. [0:18:42, 0:18:43]: Of district six. [0:18:44, 0:18:53]: Number three. Then before you continue, will you go ahead and uh pull up the PowerPoint so we can they can follow along with each of the parcels that you're identifying? [0:18:55, 0:18:57]: Mm. Would you mind sharing your screen? [0:18:59, 0:19:03]: Okay, I was gonna read it again when I got to it. I'm just right now I'm just reading it for the record. [0:19:04, 0:19:05]: Um [0:19:07, 0:19:08]: Let's see. [0:19:20, 0:19:21]: Mm-hmm. [0:19:27, 0:19:30]: It says I'm screen sharing and I have my PowerPoint open. [0:19:32, 0:19:34]: Here they can see see that. [0:19:35, 0:19:36]: We can now, yes. [0:19:37, 0:19:37]: Right. [0:19:38, 0:19:40]: There's a list of the parcels. [0:19:40, 0:19:44]: So again, for the record, number three was oh five parcel number 051. [0:19:45, 0:19:50]: Python 010111002 with 1.130 acres. [0:19:51, 0:19:55]: Located at twelve thirty-one Eagles Landing Parkway in Land Lot 20 of District Six. [0:19:56, 0:20:01]: And number four, parcel number O five one, hyphen O one oh five three thousand. [0:20:01, 0:20:03]: With point three four one acres. [0:20:03, 0:20:09]: Located in front of twelve thirty-one and twelve thirty-nine Eagles Landing Parkway in land lot twenty. [0:20:09, 0:20:10]: Of district six. [0:20:11, 0:20:12]: I'll start at the beginning. [0:20:13, 0:20:16]: Um again this is proposed recombination plat for quick trip. [0:20:16, 0:20:18]: I've given the uh location. [0:20:19, 0:20:20]: Um [0:20:21, 0:20:25]: And the applicant and applicant is QuickTrip Eric Bickus, the agent. [0:20:26, 0:20:30]: Property owner equals landing partners LLC owns all four parcels. [0:20:30, 0:20:32]: comprising the proposed development site. [0:20:33, 0:20:38]: Um they actually could have the four parcels that they want to wind up with two parcels to do that. [0:20:38, 0:20:41]: is a little bit technical where they're combining three parcels and [0:20:42, 0:20:45]: So on. The main thing is they're going from four parcels to two. [0:20:45, 0:20:47]: And they um [0:20:47, 0:20:48]: Property owner. [0:20:48, 0:20:50]: Would keep one of the [0:20:50, 0:20:53]: Um new parcels and then quick trip would [0:20:53, 0:20:55]: Uh purchase and utilize the other one. [0:20:55, 0:20:56]: Um [0:20:56, 0:21:00]: Quick trip with purchal purchase one point four eight two acres. [0:21:00, 0:21:04]: uh remainder will be left over for the property owner. Here's a list of the parcels again. [0:21:05, 0:21:07]: All part four parcels are zone C two general [0:21:08, 0:21:10]: commercial which allows the proposed use. [0:21:12, 0:21:16]: Here's an aerial photo of the vicinity. We have the interstate highways here. [0:21:17, 0:21:20]: uh Eagles Landing Parkway this way. [0:21:20, 0:21:21]: Rock Quarry Road here. [0:21:22, 0:21:22]: Um [0:21:23, 0:21:24]: The site is this [0:21:25, 0:21:26]: Dirt corner right here. [0:21:27, 0:21:29]: Uh four parcels in here. I have another [0:21:30, 0:21:34]: uh slide here. It is mostly a dirt embankment at this time. [0:21:35, 0:21:37]: Uh that's just what it looks like. [0:21:37, 0:21:38]: And [0:21:39, 0:21:43]: Here's another view uh from from Eagles Landing Parkway. You can see this embankment here. [0:21:44, 0:21:46]: I I think it was um [0:21:46, 0:21:49]: Been this way for a long time is what I've been told and it [0:21:50, 0:21:51]: Maybe left over from [0:21:51, 0:21:53]: Someone who had proposed to build and [0:21:54, 0:21:55]: Decided not to [0:21:55, 0:21:58]: This is from Patrick Henry Parkway here. [0:21:58, 0:22:02]: And w and that's a retaining wall. What you're looking at this driveway serves [0:22:02, 0:22:04]: An adjacent um [0:22:04, 0:22:05]: Office building. [0:22:07, 0:22:09]: Linda, may I speak on that? [0:22:09, 0:22:10]: For a moment. [0:22:10, 0:22:11]: Okay. [0:22:11, 0:22:14]: That that parsa used to be an office building. [0:22:15, 0:22:18]: And they tore it down and they used the dirt. [0:22:19, 0:22:21]: to make that Patrick Henry [0:22:22, 0:22:24]: Area uh to build up that area. [0:22:25, 0:22:29]: Uh that's what happened to that particular piece of property right there. It [0:22:30, 0:22:33]: It wasn't vacant, they bought it out and then they used the dirt. [0:22:35, 0:22:37]: About how about when did that happen? [0:22:38, 0:22:41]: I it's years within the past ten years, uh [0:22:42, 0:22:46]: I was overseas in Iraq, but that's what happened. There used to be a office building on top of that whole [0:22:47, 0:22:49]: parcel of land that you're looking at. [0:22:51, 0:22:52]: And they tore the office buildings down? [0:22:53, 0:22:54]: That's correct. [0:22:56, 0:22:57]: Mm-hmm. [0:22:58, 0:23:05]: Okay, uh we have a GIS zoning map and here you can see this is the corner, these different parcels. [0:23:05, 0:23:07]: Shown in this orange roll zone. [0:23:07, 0:23:09]: R a C two. [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: Most of the areas zone C two. [0:23:12, 0:23:14]: Except for that one right there. [0:23:15, 0:23:17]: Um you can see the parcels again here. [0:23:17, 0:23:18]: Outline in blue. [0:23:19, 0:23:20]: Um [0:23:21, 0:23:24]: Anyway, the applicant has submitted this um [0:23:25, 0:23:36]: drawing here, the survey, um, the black line is what they're hoping to accomplish. They're not gonna use QuickTrip is not gonna use all of the property. [0:23:36, 0:23:39]: They only want to use what's shown in this black line here. [0:23:39, 0:23:40]: Black outline. [0:23:41, 0:23:45]: water and this part here that's left over, the property owner will keep. [0:23:45, 0:23:51]: Now the colors are the individual parcels and you can see that that some of them would be split apart. [0:23:51, 0:23:53]: to form the two new parcels. [0:23:54, 0:23:57]: Anyway, um and this will be the result here, the plaque. [0:23:57, 0:24:00]: This is what they will want to record. Now we've had um [0:24:01, 0:24:06]: uh our engineer to do um review of this plat and [0:24:06, 0:24:13]: Um he's fine with it. So these are the two parcels, one right here that Quick Trip would use, and then the remaining one that would [0:24:14, 0:24:15]: property owner would keep. [0:24:15, 0:24:16]: Maintain. [0:24:17, 0:24:19]: Uh there's a site plan here. [0:24:19, 0:24:23]: Uh the main driveway would come as Eagles Landing Parkway at the bottom. [0:24:24, 0:24:30]: Patrick Inning Parkway here. You're actually looking um at the top is south and at the bottom is north. [0:24:31, 0:24:33]: That by the this arrow here. [0:24:34, 0:24:34]: Roughly. [0:24:35, 0:24:39]: Anyway, so main driveway would come off of Eagles Landing Parkway. [0:24:39, 0:24:42]: Cars would circulate around in here, the building. [0:24:42, 0:24:46]: convenience store building would be here and the pumps in front of it. [0:24:46, 0:24:48]: And um there is a [0:24:49, 0:24:51]: The two retaining walls, one here at the back. [0:24:51, 0:24:53]: One on the side here. [0:24:53, 0:24:54]: And um [0:24:55, 0:25:03]: Anyway, the engineer has done a preliminary review of that as well. We've informed the applicant that they may not. [0:25:03, 0:25:04]: Um [0:25:04, 0:25:06]: Have um [0:25:06, 0:25:09]: approval of land disturbance permit until [0:25:09, 0:25:11]: Such time as [0:25:11, 0:25:13]: The new plat is officially recorded. [0:25:14, 0:25:34]: So anyway, um here's our analysis. So um the qualifications for this proposal, all four parcels need to have the same property owner and they do. All four parcels need to have the same zoning classification and they do. The preliminary plat needs to be proved by planning and zoning, so I reviewed it, it was, and preliminary plat. [0:25:34, 0:25:49]: needs to be approved by this city engineer and it was so all four qualifications have been met we therefore recommend approval the one stipulation is what I just mentioned no land disturbance permit or building permit may be issued by the city [0:25:49, 0:25:55]: until applicant submits proof that the plat has been officially recorded by Henry County Superior Court. [0:25:56, 0:25:57]: Are there any questions? [0:25:58, 0:26:04]: Yes, uh this is Mr. Dumas. Uh my question is either for you, Linda, or for the applicant. [0:26:05, 0:26:05]: Oh [0:26:06, 0:26:15]: Less than well, approximately six tenths of a mile to the southwest of this site is an existing quick trip. [0:26:16, 0:26:19]: Vince stall slash service station, if you will. [0:26:20, 0:26:35]: And I'm wondering, I'm wondering, uh and this has nothing to do with the proving it or disapproving it, but just wanting to know what's going on in the community. Is this gonna be a replacement and and that station will close or? [0:26:35, 0:26:41]: Is this designed to compete with the gastation less than a half a mile away? [0:26:42, 0:26:49]: Is that in the located here in this photo somewhere? Just to the west or across the freeway. [0:26:49, 0:26:55]: There's a Walmart on that corner. Oh, that Walmart. There's a quick trip already existing. [0:26:56, 0:27:00]: And and the distance between the two sites is about six tenths of a mile. [0:27:01, 0:27:03]: Maybe the applicant would like to address that. [0:27:07, 0:27:08]: Mr. Bakers? [0:27:17, 0:27:19]: Do I need to stop sharing my screen for someone else's speech? [0:27:20, 0:27:20]: Oh. [0:27:21, 0:27:22]: Well, let me say this. [0:27:23, 0:27:24]: It's not uncommon to have [0:27:26, 0:27:35]: service stations and uh convenience stores in their close proximity. If you look to the south of there at Rock Quarry and um [0:27:37, 0:27:39]: Jodicum, there's a similar situation there. [0:27:40, 0:27:46]: In fact, you have three service stations there. And basically it depends on what the market value for that particular. [0:27:47, 0:27:49]: uh entity is. Um [0:27:50, 0:27:54]: Some people like um chevron, some people like shell. [0:27:54, 0:27:59]: And that's the situation j immediately south of it, approximately two miles. Like I said, said Jodico. [0:28:00, 0:28:01]: And uh Rock Quarry. [0:28:02, 0:28:11]: So uh I don't see any particular conflict with that. I mean, if they want to reduce their market share or split their market share by having a similar station. [0:28:11, 0:28:13]: Uh within a mile, so be it. [0:28:14, 0:28:17]: Uh they also they they they they have the qualifications for [0:28:18, 0:28:20]: uh establishing the uh facility there. [0:28:21, 0:28:24]: And uh I wouldn't I wouldn't oppose that. [0:28:25, 0:28:30]: And if there is a possibility that they may have internally decided they're gonna close that station down for whatever reason. [0:28:31, 0:28:32]: We don't know that. We're not privy to that. [0:28:35, 0:28:36]: Um Mr. President Massby. [0:28:37, 0:28:37]: Sure. [0:28:38, 0:28:44]: Uh there there is a a racetrack down the road from that. That's that's really not that far. So I [0:28:45, 0:28:46]: I guess in reality the [0:28:47, 0:28:52]: Uh, when you consider across the freeway and on the other side of the freeway. [0:28:52, 0:28:57]: uh they may be after the market share that which is on that side of the free grade. [0:28:57, 0:29:01]: versus the other quick trip on the other side. So [0:29:01, 0:29:05]: If you go into some of the high end neighborhoods. [0:29:05, 0:29:07]: You you'll find uh [0:29:07, 0:29:10]: That a lot of stations are not that for and [0:29:11, 0:29:12]: From each other, especially [0:29:12, 0:29:16]: If there's a lot of construction going on in the area. [0:29:17, 0:29:19]: There's there's another possibility. [0:29:20, 0:29:23]: uh exiting off seventy five. [0:29:23, 0:29:27]: If you're gonna continue south, you automatically go right to to that station. [0:29:27, 0:29:29]: And if you're gonna go north. [0:29:29, 0:29:42]: You would come east and use that station. I mean, I'm I'm just speculating. I don't know. I'm saying, but people look at the convenience factor of how far they have to travel to get gas, et cetera, and how close that station is to the expressway, to uh highway or whatever you want to call it. [0:29:43, 0:29:46]: And so that's a possibility. We don't know. We're not privy to their internal thinking. [0:29:47, 0:29:49]: or analysis in terms of addressing that issue. [0:29:50, 0:29:52]: And that's our part of this application. [0:29:54, 0:29:56]: Mr. Chairman, may I please? [0:29:57, 0:30:02]: This is Mr. Dumas again. I I didn't uh realize that my question was gonna generate [0:30:03, 0:30:06]: So much commentary and question wasn't asked. [0:30:07, 0:30:22]: to form an opinion of whether to approve, vote to approve or disapprove. The question was just, and I thought I qualified that by just wanting to know what's going on in the neighborhood in terms of businesses closing or not closing. [0:30:23, 0:30:30]: New business is coming in, or if this station was designed to replace the one to the south. [0:30:31, 0:30:40]: Or if if it was going to compete. It was just a general question. It it had no bearing on what my feelings are about whether to vote for this or not. [0:30:41, 0:30:47]: Again, I said this that's the internal thing with them. So and that's also not part of it. And that's why I asked the question to the applicant. [0:30:48, 0:30:51]: Mr. Chairman, this is Dave Planchin, real quick. [0:30:52, 0:30:55]: We're here just to discuss the zoning. Is that is that correct? [0:30:56, 0:30:58]: Not actually what's going to be built there. [0:30:59, 0:31:02]: That's absolutely correct. And I just seen Mr. Bickis. [0:31:02, 0:31:05]: From Quick Trip, maybe he can address those issues. [0:31:06, 0:31:07]: Absolutely. Um [0:31:07, 0:31:08]: Can you guys hear me now? [0:31:09, 0:31:09]: Sure, yeah. [0:31:10, 0:31:11]: Sorry about that. I had [0:31:12, 0:31:18]: uh technical difficulties. Um the uh existing Quick Trip store um 100% will remain open. [0:31:19, 0:31:38]: Um, what you may see in the future after we uh uh build and develop the proposed Quick Trip is us going back and remodeling uh or knocking down the older store and replacing it with a new one. But um our internal analysis has shown that the traffic patterns are different, therefore we intend to keep both stores open. [0:31:39, 0:31:40]: Thank you. [0:31:47, 0:31:49]: Okay, Mr. Logan is anything further? [0:31:50, 0:32:02]: I just wanted to clarify a comment that was m made a moment ago. We're not discussing the zoning per se of this property. The question at hand is whether to approve the proposed combination. [0:32:02, 0:32:05]: Of from four parcels to two parcels. [0:32:06, 0:32:10]: So that QuickTrip may use one of the parcels to build this new QuickTrip station. [0:32:12, 0:32:15]: Well, let me put this a to sort of [0:32:16, 0:32:17]: to the board. [0:32:17, 0:32:20]: Anybody have any other questions regarding this application? [0:32:22, 0:32:23]: Permission to speak, Mr. Chairman. [0:32:23, 0:32:24]: This is Miss Nelson. [0:32:26, 0:32:32]: So I understand I understand we're only discussing the zoning of, you know, the combination of the two parcels. [0:32:32, 0:32:35]: However, it's with the intent that there will be uh [0:32:36, 0:32:36]: Trip built. [0:32:37, 0:32:42]: Um so i k i I I is has there been any discussion? [0:32:42, 0:32:43]: Um [0:32:43, 0:32:44]: About [0:32:44, 0:32:50]: what they will do in terms of congestion and traffic. That that's kind of a congested area right there. [0:32:50, 0:32:53]: You've got the food mart that we were talking about in [0:32:53, 0:32:56]: with the other gas station, you've got Chick-fil-A right in there. [0:32:57, 0:33:03]: Um, you know, so that that's kind of a congested area. So has there been any discussion of what they're gonna do about [0:33:04, 0:33:04]: Uh [0:33:04, 0:33:06]: you know, traffic in that area. [0:33:06, 0:33:09]: Uh thank you. With the addition of the quick mark. [0:33:10, 0:33:13]: Yeah, I think in the application they say you're gonna have ingress. [0:33:13, 0:33:18]: Off uh Rock Quarry Road and also off Eagles Landing. Is that right, Mr. Vickers? [0:33:19, 0:33:24]: Yes, in addition to that, we'll have a full access point on Country Club Drive as well. [0:33:25, 0:33:26]: Okay. [0:33:26, 0:33:27]: So [0:33:27, 0:33:29]: That'll address the traffic issue. [0:33:30, 0:33:32]: There would actually be three. [0:33:32, 0:33:35]: Access is the main one on Ingles Landing Parkway. [0:33:35, 0:33:37]: And the a secondary one, um [0:33:38, 0:33:40]: Uh go will go use a [0:33:40, 0:33:41]: Driveway of the [0:33:42, 0:33:48]: Office building to the rear out to Patrick Henry Parkway, and then there will be a third internal access. [0:33:49, 0:33:50]: Going to the east. [0:33:51, 0:33:53]: Which will connect with adjacent office park. [0:33:54, 0:33:54]: Yeah. [0:33:57, 0:33:59]: And I had the uh fire marshal to review this and [0:34:00, 0:34:01]: He's fine with it. [0:34:02, 0:34:02]: Yeah. [0:34:03, 0:34:04]: Call from [0:34:05, 0:34:15]: Any other questions? Uh one thing good about that situation on that corner. [0:34:15, 0:34:16]: Uh [0:34:16, 0:34:20]: being that they have mediums in the roadway. [0:34:20, 0:34:27]: Uh they're gonna have a better control of uh of entry and exit on that particular piece of property. [0:34:29, 0:34:40]: And then you have the back end yourself. You come out of Eagles Land and you can't turn to the left. You gotta go to the right. Exactly. So so we have some informal. Yep, you have an option to go. [0:34:40, 0:34:42]: East or west or straight ahead. So [0:34:43, 0:34:49]: Uh those are controlled by traffic signals already. So I don't see that as being uh a real concern at this point. [0:34:49, 0:34:53]: No, I'm saying it's not a problem because the egress and entry [0:34:54, 0:34:58]: will be controlled in in in a lot of ways that that [0:34:58, 0:35:03]: You won't enter a lot of traffic into the mainstream is what I'm basically saying. [0:35:04, 0:35:05]: Okay. [0:35:11, 0:35:12]: Any further discussion? [0:35:13, 0:35:19]: Mr. Chairman, this is uh Mr. Dunwiss, and I'm prepared to make a motion to approve this. [0:35:23, 0:35:25]: Mr. Doans has made a motion for approval. Is there a second? [0:35:26, 0:35:29]: Yeah, this is Harold Thibodeau and I'll second it. [0:35:30, 0:35:34]: Okay, it's been moved and second. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:35:35, 0:35:36]: All right. [0:35:37, 0:35:38]: Those opposed? [0:35:39, 0:35:45]: I was have it, the motion is carried, the approval, the uh uh approval for the recombination. [0:35:46, 0:35:47]: has been approved. [0:35:49, 0:35:50]: Thank you guys. [0:35:51, 0:35:51]: Okay. [0:35:53, 0:35:54]: Uh [0:35:54, 0:35:56]: That's it for the agenda. [0:35:57, 0:36:01]: Um I think Ms Johnson had something to say. [0:36:02, 0:36:03]: Following this. [0:36:03, 0:36:21]: Yes, uh thank you, Chairman. Um so I I have a couple project updates and a couple staff comments. Um as it pertains to um project updates, I want to just make you all aware that uh the bridges at Jodico has a project of [0:36:22, 0:36:30]: 306 apartments and about 6200 square feet of commercial space for mixed use. [0:36:31, 0:36:36]: So I wanna make sure I'm at the right location. You're making a reference to the property. [0:36:37, 0:36:42]: South of uh uh of uh Eagles Landing at Jodeco and the Expressway. [0:36:43, 0:37:03]: Yes, but but Johtoco, Johako Road, yes, on the just south of Johtoco Road north of the Atlantic. And um the the project they've submitted for the 306 units is about 16 buildings. There's a couple garages, clubhouse, and other amenities. So there will likely be a groundbreaking, I would think, in the next couple. [0:37:02, 0:37:22]: Couple of weeks that the uh that the developer is scheduling with our uh public information officer and the mayor's office. So I will keep you abreast on those dates. Also, um the unified development code that you all approved at the last. [0:37:22, 0:37:40]: hearing um has been has gone to the city council first reading it will go for its second likely in january the legal staff wants to finalize their review and take a little bit closer look at some of the uh concerns that [0:37:41, 0:38:01]: either have come up since we had the first reading or other items that they want to just ensure that we are maintaining our our legal um ability to defend our our code. So they will be reviewing that I will keep you all updated on any changes. But at this point it'll be [0:38:01, 0:38:05]: go before the city council for the second reading and approval. [0:38:05, 0:38:08]: Ms. Johnson, will the fundament when that's finished, will that be [0:38:09, 0:38:10]: Codified and published. [0:38:11, 0:38:18]: Absolutely. And I'll make sure that if you would like a hard copy, I'll provide a hard copy. We will have digital copies available to you as well. [0:38:19, 0:38:39]: I don't know if you if you all have been able to look through the table of contents is is going to be really great because as you click on a section, it'll take on the section number is gonna take you directly to that section in the code. So you're not having to scroll through hundreds of pages of material to find what you're looking for. And that's part of making. [0:38:39, 0:38:47]: It user-friendly for our effective officials, appointed officials, our staff, and our developers who are reviewing it. [0:38:48, 0:39:08]: So that kind of concludes uh oh Davidson Parkway. So the Davidson Parkway um DRI I think was recommended for denial at the last meeting. It uh was scheduled to go to the city council at the last at this past Tuesday's meeting. However, the applicant requested to defer it. [0:39:08, 0:39:11]: it to the November eighth agenda. [0:39:11, 0:39:18]: So that they have more time to speak with the public, with the community, with another potential uh business. [0:39:18, 0:39:37]: Califer just south, located south of the property, and um and have discussions before they brought it back to the city. So we've uh yet to get all of that information yet, but when we do, we will share that as well. I try to always keep you all up to date on new projects. [0:39:38, 0:39:41]: What's you know, going through the groundbreaking process. [0:39:42, 0:39:47]: what we have um new businesses and things like that so i'll be preparing um a report [0:39:47, 0:39:49]: For our next meeting. [0:39:50, 0:39:51]: For next year. [0:39:52, 0:39:58]: And uh that concludes my uh comments and project updates. [0:39:59, 0:40:00]: Thank you, Mr. Johnson. [0:40:01, 0:40:02]: Absolutely. [0:40:03, 0:40:05]: That being said [0:40:05, 0:40:07]: Yeah, we have a motion to adjourn. [0:40:07, 0:40:09]: I mentioned one other thing. [0:40:09, 0:40:10]: Five minutes. [0:40:10, 0:40:13]: Can I mention one other thing? Sure. [0:40:14, 0:40:18]: Uh we wanted at some point to discuss the bylaws, but and not before we can [0:40:19, 0:40:21]: Discuss that at a formal meeting. [0:40:21, 0:40:22]: Um [0:40:22, 0:40:23]: Well, wanna have some [0:40:24, 0:40:24]: Um [0:40:25, 0:40:30]: Informal reviews, maybe with two or three of each of you at one time and [0:40:31, 0:40:33]: Mr. Abdullah, if if you would wanna [0:40:34, 0:40:37]: Think about when you might want to hold those meetings. [0:40:38, 0:40:40]: Well I'll let you schedule those meetings so that it's uh [0:40:42, 0:40:44]: uh convenient for all of us, but um [0:40:45, 0:40:49]: It it was done only sometime sometime after the November eighth meeting. [0:40:50, 0:40:56]: Because Johnson said we're not having another meeting after that until January. So I think after the November meeting. [0:40:57, 0:41:04]: We could uh uh get together. Unless the we don't have anything in the hopper at this moment, but if we do have something in [0:41:04, 0:41:12]: Uh we will have a December meeting, but we won't know until our deadline of November fourth, which is our cutoff for any application to be heard. [0:41:13, 0:41:17]: So we'll keep you all posted. Um and then one final thing. [0:41:18, 0:41:23]: Um I know that we've been uh the council was hoping to bring on or just [0:41:26, 0:41:26]: You broke up. [0:41:35, 0:41:36]: Ms. Johnson. [0:41:37, 0:41:44]: a planning commissioner to place and um hopefully by the new year we'll have have that that [0:41:44, 0:41:46]: Um seat replaced. [0:41:47, 0:41:51]: Uh our next meeting is scheduled for December the second and we do have a [0:41:52, 0:41:52]: Um [0:41:53, 0:41:54]: Resoling case. [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: That is scheduled to be heard then. [0:41:58, 0:41:59]: Uh Chairman. [0:41:59, 0:42:04]: Sure. Yes, Mr. Dumas. Uh I have a question for Ms. Logan. [0:42:05, 0:42:11]: I'm curious to know since we've already adopted and voted on the uh bylaws. [0:42:12, 0:42:14]: I think that was done back in [0:42:14, 0:42:17]: Two thousand seventeen, I believe. [0:42:18, 0:42:22]: What is it that we um need to meet about uh [0:42:23, 0:42:24]: I'm I'm I'm confused. [0:42:24, 0:42:32]: Well, um at the last meeting it was discovered that we have not been voting annually on uh members. [0:42:32, 0:42:35]: positions chairman, vice chairman, secretary, whatever. [0:42:35, 0:42:47]: But that has nothing to do with the bylaws. I mean it's just that we didn't follow them. That's all we didn't follow and there's some other amendments in there that we need to make. Ms. Johnson brought up a date that we're supposed to vote on that, etc. Is that correct, Ms. Johnson? [0:42:47, 0:43:07]: Yes. I mean if we can vote on it at our next meeting before the end of the year, um, and which which is really why we'd like to have those two-on-two or one-on-one meetings with you all to kind of go through some of those things. And Linda's putting together a short, you know, bullet pointed list of some things that we just want to have addressed to make sure that we're [0:43:07, 0:43:20]: clear on going forward. So the new year where we have a clean process. Yes. Oh, we're speaking in to uh amend the bylaws. Is that what I'm hearing? We need to make some amendments to the existing bylaws. [0:43:22, 0:43:31]: Yes. Yes. Uh we wanna just make sure that you all are good with those. But again, you know, not for this meeting necessarily, but for offline just sort of [0:43:31, 0:43:35]: have a a work session discussion about it. What if so [0:43:36, 0:43:38]: Why don't we schedule it after the December second meeting? [0:43:40, 0:43:47]: Sounds like that. Yes. There's a is another meeting schedule, planning commission meeting scheduled for December 16, just two weeks later. [0:43:48, 0:43:50]: Well and we we will address that with [0:43:50, 0:43:53]: I wanted to get us to get into all the dates, but let's [0:43:53, 0:44:04]: uh talk offline with you, Chairman, um, and and talk with the other board members. But for the sake of this particular agenda, um, I think we can, you know, close with that and [0:44:04, 0:44:05]: Do all offline. [0:44:07, 0:44:10]: Okay. Having said that, have a motion to adjourn. [0:44:12, 0:44:13]: I'll second it. [0:44:14, 0:44:20]: You want are you want to make a motion to adjourn? No, no, I mean I'll present a motion to adjoin the meeting. [0:44:20, 0:44:22]: And then I need Miss Logan. [0:44:23, 0:44:25]: Yeah. [0:44:25, 0:44:27]: Yes. Did you say something? [0:44:27, 0:44:32]: No. Oh Ms. Ms. Nelson did. She made the motion to to adjourn. [0:44:33, 0:44:38]: Mr. Nelson has made a motion to adjourn. Do I have a second? I hero tibod or a second. [0:44:39, 0:44:46]: Yeah, motion has been made by Ms. Nelson and second by Mr. Thibodeau. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:44:46, 0:44:47]: Uh [0:44:47, 0:44:49]: Those opposed, as have it. [0:44:50, 0:44:52]: The motion to adjourn is carried. [0:44:54, 0:44:54]: Pardon me? [0:44:56, 0:44:57]: Somebody say something. [0:44:59, 0:45:00]: I believe that was Miss Nell. [0:45:01, 0:45:02]: Ms. Nelson? [0:45:05, 0:45:06]: Mr. Nelson, did you say something? [0:45:07, 0:45:08]: No, sir. [0:45:08, 0:45:09]: Okay. [0:45:10, 0:45:14]: That being said, the motion the uh meeting is adjourned until uh [0:45:15, 0:45:17]: What is it? The next one is in November. [0:45:18, 0:45:19]: December second. [0:45:19, 0:45:21]: December second, okay. [0:45:23, 0:45:24]: Hi, well good night everyone. [0:45:25, 0:45:28]: Thank you so much, Chairman. Thank you, Planning Commissioners Jaha. [0:45:28, 0:45:28]: Okay. [0:45:29, 0:45:30]: We'll be in touch. [0:45:30, 0:45:31]: Alrighty. Bye bye. [0:45:31, 0:45:32]: Bye bye. [0:45:33, 0:45:34]: Ms. Mr. Tividone. [0:45:35, 0:45:36]: Mr. Tividor. [0:45:38, 0:45:38]: Yes, sir. [0:45:39, 0:45:42]: No, everybody was leaving. I I thought you had something you wanted to say to me. [0:45:43, 0:45:45]: Yeah, but I uh I just call me. [0:45:45, 0:45:49]: Call you, we'll do. All right. All right. Thank you.