2025-07-29 · City Council · Transcript · Work Session Meeting

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--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2025-07-29 source: 2025-07-29_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:05:30, 0:05:40]: Well that's good. [0:05:53, 0:05:55]: That's you good. [0:06:01, 0:06:02]: Matrix. [0:06:24, 0:06:25]: Oh, thank you. [0:06:26, 0:06:30]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have uh six oh three. I'd like to start our [0:06:30, 0:06:35]: City Council work session, Tuesday, July twenty third. Call meeting to order. [0:06:36, 0:06:45]: Please stand for the invocation. Mr. Charles Marshall, please come to the mic, make sure the green light is on, and uh wish us well for tonight. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: Let's go into prayer. [0:06:48, 0:06:59]: Merciful Father, we come before you once again in a most humble way, thanking you, Father God, for all that you are and all that you do. We thank you, Father God, for this day, a day not promised, Father God, nothing we've done to earn it. [0:07:00, 0:07:20]: But we understand it's only because of your goodness and your grace that you'll allow us to see it anyway. So now, Father God, we ask that you bless this meeting. Open our minds and hearts, Father God, to where we may listen and and understand what's going on in the creation that you made here in Stockbridge. Father God, we ask for a special blessing on all the council members, all and the mayor and all of the [0:07:19, 0:07:39]: Those that are here and their families, Father God, do we ask for a special blessing? So in the name of your darling son, Jesus that we send this prayer and send that same name, Father God, we ask that you receive it. And let all saints say amen. Amen. We pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic of [0:07:39, 0:07:45]: which stands one nation under God in the visible with liberty and justice. [0:07:46, 0:07:48]: Madam Clerk, roll call please. [0:07:52, 0:07:53]: Good evening, everyone. [0:07:54, 0:07:54]: Evening. [0:07:55, 0:07:56]: President. [0:08:06, 0:08:07]: Present. [0:08:08, 0:08:11]: Present. Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. Um [0:08:12, 0:08:15]: Uh Cal I need a uh motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:08:16, 0:08:25]: So moved. Okay, Mr. Alexander's a second. Second. Can Mr. Barba uh Mr. Uh uh Berry second that in all favor please indicate? Hello. Okay, announced decision on that sport. [0:08:25, 0:08:28]: Okay, Madam Clerk, I'm assuming we have public comments, is that correct? [0:08:30, 0:08:50]: Okay. So all persons wishing to speak on public comment must sign in the city clerk prior to beginning the meeting. You must sign your name, address and phone number, and you'll be able to address the mayor and city council for three minutes. Speakers must respect all members of the elected body, officials and staff. Defination, unruliness and or swearing will not be tolerated while meetings are in session. [0:08:50, 0:08:54]: Madam Clerk, uh first individual for public comments, please. Mr. Turner. [0:08:55, 0:08:57]: Okay. Let's turn name and address. [0:09:06, 0:09:26]: Two five four World Away Stockbridge. Again, this is business, this is not personal. It has officially been acknowledged that the city of Stockbridge mismanaged nearly thirty-three million dollars in 2024 under the this counsel, Fred Gardner, and Quentin Washington, our city attorney. I have personally obtained financial [0:09:26, 0:09:46]: Records by the way of open records that shows the years 2022, 2023 were also over the approved budget millions of dollars. Are you going to amend those audits as well? What happens now? Where is the accountability? This cannot just be an oh well moment. The city needs to tell the taxpayers if this act of mismanagement of funds under the [0:09:46, 0:10:06]: This council and Fred Garner is going to be investigated. This city needs to tell the taxpayers who approved these payments. This city needs to tell the taxpayers who issued these payments. The city needs to tell the taxpayers who the payments were issued to. [0:10:05, 0:10:25]: Right under the noses of the city council and city attorney, years of unapproved spending was happening with no oversight. Millions. The former city manager and the city council was asked by Councilwoman Barber on numerous occasions for financial records, ampathy to profit and loss statements, budget and balances and audits. Her requests are well documented. [0:10:25, 0:10:45]: Minute during the public meetings. The city council failed to listen and failed to act on the numerous requests by Councilmember Barber. The council was stuck on the band of three that we hear so much about that you failed to hear her sounding the alarm. She's been trying to tell you all for years that you have issues on your financial department. But because you were deliberately ignoring her, you were ignoring the problem that was right in front of you. [0:10:45, 0:11:05]: Of your face. Had you listened and insisted on the records being provided to her, she very likely would have been able to review the financials and seen that the numbers were not adding up. Councilwoman Barber is the only council member who is in her fifth year in office, has never represented the city council on any other city boards or committees, but another council member is the liaison for the DDA and to which city [0:11:05, 0:11:25]: City taxpayers had to pay$1.7 million in a settlement because of this council members bullying local businesses, but he's able to be a liaison for the DDA. Wow. Councilwoman Barber asked to be appointed to the Finance Committee. Mayor Ford refused to appoint her to the Finance Committee, saying that the former city manager, Fred Gardner, is doing a great job overseeing the city committee. [0:11:25, 0:11:45]: Finance department. Now, thirty-two million dollars later, look where we are. Mayor Ford, do you stand by your statement? We all know things would have been done much different if Councilwoman Barber would have been able to see these city finances by heading up the finance committee. Mayor Ford, I suggest you do the right thing and appoint Councilwoman Barber as chair of the finance committee. The resident of Stockbridge want Capitol. [0:11:45, 0:12:05]: Accountability and transparency as she is the only council member that displays leadership. This matter of thirty two million dollars would not be swept under the rug and is not going away. As I previously stated, the records and transactions involving this amphitheater go back to 2019 with the construction. Councilwoman Gantt recommended we go back and look at the minutes. I did just that and over and over. [0:12:05, 0:12:25]: Over again, there was money being poured into the amphitheater with changes to orders and amendments. There was one adjustment of more than seven hundred thousand dollars without a real explanation. So while the original price tag of the amphitheater was one thing, there were several changes in amendments. What has the amphitheater really cost the taxpayers of the city of Stockbridge? Considering the fact that it's abundantly clear. [0:12:25, 0:12:29]: [752.1, 757.5]: Okay. No, no sir. Three minutes is up. Thank you. [0:12:37, 0:12:43]: Okay. Stand by sir. Stand by. Uh thank you. Miss Mary Calhoun. Ms. Calhoun, please. Name and address. [0:13:00, 0:13:08]: My name is Mary Indie Calhoun, and I live at 608 Creekstone Court in Jonesboro, Georgia. [0:13:09, 0:13:29]: I am concerned about the overall formatting of presented literature and its accuracy as a whole at this point to how to have added thirty-two million to this budget. And the twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, and twenty twenty four data doesn't correlate. [0:13:29, 0:13:49]: With these extraordinarily high numbers. Some public meetings are in the orders. Notwithstanding the explanation, we'd ask for resignations of the voting public will then need to seek to enact recall. The budget summary for 2021. [0:13:49, 0:14:09]: Clearly recaps the data from 2023, present to 2024, and provides the variance in both dollars and percentage. This data presentation is eliminated in the 2025 proposal we are referring to to on pages 20 on the [0:14:09, 0:14:29]: To the page 22 worksheet. The 2025 budget lacks this information, lacks transparency, and insight needed to properly assess the data table. It is unacceptable that the formatting is changed and the citizens are looking forward to the [0:14:29, 0:14:45]: 2026 budget discussion that clearly encompassed and presents the forthcoming year, but also recaps the prior two years history and its variance. We will accept no less than full transparency in the common budget hearing. [0:14:45, 0:15:05]: The argument that ARPA and SP Splosh six funds are absent in the twenty twenty-four accepted budget are being countered by the fact that these same income funds are missing from being presented to the proposed twenty twenty four. [0:15:05, 0:15:07]: Yeah. [0:15:08, 0:15:20]: We see the items are presented in the budget summary of the 2025 accepted budget document, division two hundred thirty, three twenty, three twenty-one, three thirty-five, respectfully. [0:15:21, 0:15:22]: Yet [0:15:22, 0:15:26]: references in the funds is missing in the twenty twenty four. [0:15:27, 0:15:40]: While SPLOS is while SPLOS was only being proposed, there are still projected in revenues and expenses from SPLOS NARPA from 2024. [0:15:41, 0:15:42]: Isn't that correct? [0:15:42, 0:15:45]: Most of us do not look at the budget. [0:15:46, 0:15:59]: Do not look it over, but we are scrutinizing each and every line item expenditure expenditure moving forward. The inflated proposals and questioning uncollected revenues. [0:16:00, 0:16:03]: And that's your time. Thank you very much. Anyone else? [0:16:04, 0:16:07]: Ms. Anika Potts. Ms. Potts, name and address please. [0:16:23, 0:16:30]: Anika Potts, 688, Pathwood Lane, Sockbridge, Georgia. Good evening, Council, Mayor, and Community. [0:16:31, 0:16:34]: I am a member of the Main Street Advisory Board. [0:16:35, 0:16:38]: We are requesting funding for the alleyway project. [0:16:38, 0:16:58]: In 2019, the Main Street program made recommendations to renovate the Burke Street alleyway, which is suffering from lots of issues. Some of the conditions include a decaying storm drain system, water damage to properties, blight conditions, and even and uneven ground and runoff. [0:16:58, 0:17:02]: The utilities were also to be taken underground during this reconstruction. [0:17:03, 0:17:06]: In twenty twenty, the council issued resolution. [0:17:06, 0:17:08]: R twenty twelve twelve. [0:17:08, 0:17:10]: agreeing to fund this project. [0:17:10, 0:17:14]: The board understands that all the elements are currently in place now. [0:17:14, 0:17:16]: And the project is ready to break ground. [0:17:17, 0:17:34]: This project is one of the keys to making our downtown more marketable and its current c uh business owners uh will enjoy it, our visitors along with potential investors. The improvements will give the infrastructure at least another 50 years of life. [0:17:34, 0:17:54]: It will elevate the look and feel of the downtown bish uh business district, excuse me. It will keep the city's promise to the property owners and the whole community. We as the Main Street uh board are here today asking for your support as the economic development staff continues to work diligently. [0:17:54, 0:18:06]: to bring the alleyway project to fruition. We respectfully request that the council agree to support the funds for the project in 2025. Thank you. [0:18:06, 0:18:07]: Thank you. [0:18:09, 0:18:10]: Anybody else, Ms. Halvey? [0:18:12, 0:18:13]: Mr. Willie Hopkins. [0:18:16, 0:18:17]: Mr. Hopkins, name and address, please. [0:18:24, 0:18:28]: Willie Hopkins fifty seven Carriage Lake Drive in the great city of Stockbridge. [0:18:30, 0:18:35]: Good evening, Mayor. Good evening. Mayor Pro Tem and the Honourable City Council. [0:18:37, 0:18:45]: I have the privilege to serve as the chairman of the Main Street Advisory Board. And I'm joined here with my colleagues that serve with me on that board. I would like to ask them to stand with me at this time. [0:18:49, 0:18:50]: Council. [0:18:51, 0:18:53]: This board are committed to [0:18:53, 0:18:57]: to support and continue the growth and vitality of our downtown district. [0:18:58, 0:19:01]: I wanna thank you for this opportunity to stand before you this evening. [0:19:01, 0:19:03]: To provide you with a brief update. [0:19:04, 0:19:06]: on the ongoing work within our Main Street Advisory Board. [0:19:07, 0:19:11]: As downtown district as the downtown district continues to grow. [0:19:11, 0:19:22]: With new businesses, increased foot traffic, and expanded community engagement, the Main Street Advisory Board and Economic Development are submitted committed to HIPS promoting [0:19:22, 0:19:26]: Local entrepreneurship and embracing the quality of life here in the city of Stockbridge. [0:19:27, 0:19:28]: How do we do this? [0:19:29, 0:19:36]: We do this by supporting momentum through the thoughtful prompt programming and structural improvements and proactive policy reviews. [0:19:37, 0:19:54]: I'm excited at this time to share a few successful initiatives that we've done this year that brought footprint, foot traffic, and active public spaces within our downtown district. One, the Tiny Tent. That's a flexible, low-cost pop-up market format supporting our small vendors. [0:19:55, 0:20:15]: Two, farm the table market that cultivates marketplace promoting local agriculture and small businesses. Three, get the step and fitness walk. That's a health forward program designed to engage residents and engage them in walking during our downtown area. These programs are fostered in [0:20:15, 0:20:27]: increasing committed engagement and versatility of our downtown businesses. As the board continues to support and work with economic development, economic development has continued to move forward with two important instructional initiatives. [0:20:27, 0:20:38]: The alleyway active activation project, which focuses on transform unutilization alley space into a safe, attractive press pedestrian corrid corridors and support retail and community activities. [0:20:38, 0:20:39]: Two. [0:20:39, 0:20:46]: North or southern parking extension. And that's aimed at improving downtown accessibility and accommodating future growth. [0:20:48, 0:21:08]: These projects support long-term goals that this council has already been initiative to and understand that it was in the RSVP. And it also helps us connect in economic vitality in a place of marketing for our city. Economic Development and Main Street staff appreciates this council for your ongoing support and looks forward. [0:21:08, 0:21:12]: forward to continued collaboration as we go forth to make this city the best city in the state of Georgia. [0:21:14, 0:21:19]: With the increase of new businesses and new footprint traffic that's coming down to our city. [0:21:19, 0:21:32]: And with new challenges, s it have natural um emerges high it have challenges naturally that emerges high liability um gaps in [0:21:32, 0:21:39]: Sure, your time. Y is there any more do you are you finished? I need some about two m about another third second. Hold on second. Is d do we wanna give him extra time? [0:21:39, 0:21:41]: I listen, it's [0:21:42, 0:22:02]: I'm a yes, absolutely. It's the main street board. But I I didn't understand why they weren't on the agenda and doing doing this during public comment. But I have no problem with it. I actually support it because I I wanna ask some questions because it should be a presentation. I'd just like to make a motion to put them on the agenda. [0:22:02, 0:22:06]: So that we can have a full discussion. Yeah. [0:22:10, 0:22:21]: Okay. That was gonna be my request. Yeah. All right, go ahead. In order to be fair to all citizens, we can't extend time or not send it otherwise up to have more. [0:22:23, 0:22:28]: Okay. So we'll make a motion to put'em on the agenda. Okay. The Main Street board on the agenda. [0:22:29, 0:22:37]: That's the second to the motion? Mr. Um Berry's second. All in favor? Please and okay? Okay. Continue on continue on, sir. [0:22:40, 0:22:41]: Thank you, Bo. [0:22:41, 0:23:01]: Let let's just bring him back up when when when that time comes so he can so to be fair, we didn't give anybody else any extra time. Let's just bring him back up when that time comes. So you can finish your complete speech when the agenda item comes. We'll put him on the agenda first. Okay, good idea. On that note. So I'll what I'll do. Thank you, sir. Uh we'll we'll do it right after review of the minutes. Um [0:23:01, 0:23:14]: Yep, go ahead. Sit down. I'll bring it back when view the minutes here, which is one simple statement. It'd be it'd be be shortly. Just have a seat. Have a seat for a brief moment. All right. All right. And uh Madam Clerk, you have that noted, is that correct? [0:23:16, 0:23:36]: Okay. All right, then thank you. Okay. So on that note, review the minutes review July fifteenth, twenty twenty-five council meeting minutes. Once you review those, if there are any changes to those, make sure you get those changes to the clerk, and we'll approve that at our next uh meeting in uh which will be in August. I believe it's August 11th. Now, uh yeah, so uh what we have next is presentation, but before we get into presentation, [0:23:35, 0:23:44]: Presentations, all right. If you don't mind, uh come on backing up, sir. Uh come on back up and finish out your presentation, Main Street President. [0:23:46, 0:23:46]: Okay. [0:23:49, 0:23:49]: All right. [0:23:55, 0:23:56]: I think you uh [0:23:56, 0:24:16]: Council m uh mayor counsel for this opportunity to come back before you. Good deal. Uh as I continue, uh Mayor, to maintain the downtown district forward momentum and avoid disruption, economic development and Main Street staff will be undertaking a comprehensive review of key policies. This effect will focus on aligning existing rel uh regulation. [0:24:16, 0:24:31]: with evolving needs of a modern, active downtown district. Some key areas that the board should be looking at is open container ordinance. And this is the evaluating the impact on both the public safety and the cultural verocity of this district. [0:24:31, 0:24:32]: Private event. [0:24:32, 0:24:42]: Policy, reviewing the frequency and structure of events hosted by private entities to ensure a balance and accessibility for the safety of our citizens. [0:24:42, 0:24:56]: Shared parking management, and this is the identifying strategies to better coordinate and optimize limited parking resources. And there may be other additional areas that may be under consideration, and this is to improve clarity, fairness, and operational efficiency. [0:24:57, 0:25:06]: Uh these reviews will result in thoughtful recommendations intended to support the downtown district's growth, particularly in reinforcing its arts and entertainment culture. [0:25:07, 0:25:11]: While promoting fairness, sustainability for all our stockholders. [0:25:11, 0:25:13]: The Main Street Advisor Board is [0:25:13, 0:25:14]: Generally. [0:25:15, 0:25:17]: And genuinely excited about the future decision. [0:25:18, 0:25:19]: Stockbridge Downtown District. [0:25:20, 0:25:21]: The main street advisor board remains. [0:25:22, 0:25:24]: And I say this with no uncertain terms. [0:25:25, 0:25:25]: Remain. [0:25:26, 0:25:29]: The number one committed hardest working boy in this city. [0:25:29, 0:25:31]: And we will continue to do that to support this board. [0:25:33, 0:25:33]: In the meantime. [0:25:34, 0:25:35]: As we continue to do that [0:25:36, 0:25:41]: We are dedicated to ensuring downtown d our downtown district enca encompass and [0:25:41, 0:25:47]: Income as a growth as it vibr as a vibrant, accessible, and well managed area for everyone who lives. [0:25:47, 0:25:49]: Works and invests in this city. [0:25:50, 0:26:00]: And Mayor, I humbly thank you again. This concludes my little portion. Okay and if anything, any question you may have, I stand available to pretty sure we do. All right. [0:26:00, 0:26:03]: And I forgot who the layers on. [0:26:03, 0:26:23]: It's Councilman uh Afonso Thomas. Okay, all right, gotcha. All right. Mayor. Go right, please. Um a couple of things. When we had our retreats, the Alloway project is something that we've already approved. We've approved funding and we also um asked what the holdup is. I don't think you don't have the mayor's and council support on that. I think [0:26:23, 0:26:40]: think everybody on mayor council agreed that we want that completed. Um so we haven't had a city manager in about six months, quite almost six months. So [0:26:40, 0:26:49]: Maybe that could be the holdup, but I'm not sure what the holdup is. We would have to speak to our economic development director, if you don't mind, Mr. Uh [0:26:50, 0:26:57]: Sanders. Sand Sanders coming up. Um and also Lisa um if you don't mind coming up. [0:26:57, 0:27:01]: Because we need to figure out where we are and [0:27:01, 0:27:05]: where we're headed with that. I don't think anybody on this [0:27:05, 0:27:12]: We've we are all in agreement with that. Um so we appreciate you guys giving us a update on it, but [0:27:13, 0:27:13]: Um [0:27:14, 0:27:17]: A there were some times when I asked about it. [0:27:17, 0:27:37]: And the previous Main Street director at one point had said that they had to hold off. There were some certain things that had to be done. And that was through the engineering firm. So it's not a whole you want to make sure you get it done right, right? You got I don't know if you have easements or certain things you need to do. There was a debate on crush and run. There were debate on different types of [0:27:37, 0:27:47]: of things that need to uh no need to be done, but just letting you know, you know, uh everybody on here agreed [0:27:47, 0:27:50]: I'm just waiting to hear when y'all are gonna get started. [0:27:50, 0:27:52]: And then in addition to that [0:27:53, 0:28:13]: Um, I guess number two in regards to policies and procedures. Um is from my understanding there are some concerns about events and the way those policies and procedures ought to take place. I think our legal team as well as Mayor and Council needs to be involved. Um we did an open container district just as Savannah or any other downtown would do. [0:28:13, 0:28:33]: Do with a 16-ounce drink from the establishments in that downtown area. And there's actually a map that's applied. So, um, there are some concerns with some of the constitutional language, maybe in regards to smoking or stuff like that, that we might need to take a look at. But other than that, um [0:28:32, 0:28:52]: You guys have our full one hundred percent support as far as I'm concerned. I can't speak for everybody else, but I definitely support Main Street. Um well you wanna make sure that it's fair for all. I've received concerns, um, you know, in regards to certain things and I think the mayor and council where it's [0:28:52, 0:29:00]: stands we have a new city manager um coming in so we should be able to iron out some of those those kinks. [0:29:01, 0:29:21]: Did you need to respond to that now? Well, just real quickly, I was gonna say thank thank you, Councilwoman Gantt, and and thank you all as a council as a whole for supporting downtown. Uh it is very much appreciated. Um I was aware that there was generally a funding source, but I was not entirely clear that, and I'm assuming Councilwoman Glant. [0:29:21, 0:29:34]: And the council can correct me, is it SPLOST six? Because although I know we talked about it in the retreat, I won't I'll say that you know maybe it was my mistake that I walked away without being clear. [0:29:35, 0:29:53]: that it was splot six. So if you are saying now that money is definitely in place, we will run with that. Because uh we have uh done a lot of preliminary work in terms of working with the engineers and walking in and getting an understanding about historically what's happened and what hasn't happened, and we are ready to go. [0:29:53, 0:30:11]: if there is a consensus on the funding source. So I'll I'll get to work on it tomorrow. But but the engineers are waiting for us to get back with them and we just need clarity on, you know, the the funding source that we are to use. And if if if that was a financial director at all about it? [0:30:12, 0:30:32]: I'm sorry. Have you spoken to the finance director about? We've had a number of internal conversations about it. And in fact, at some point the staff will be bringing some recommendations before you all on all capital, uh, not just this one, but all capital. But as far as being clear on the funding source, if the clarification is coming from you all this evening. [0:30:31, 0:30:35]: that spot six is it, I will proceed. [0:30:35, 0:30:55]: Well, I can't do that without listening to our finance director, but in the past that money was allocated and set aside for specifically for the alleyway. I mean we had we had a list. So we need to if we need to meet or maybe have a retreat with council and that's something I'm gonna bring up anyway. I I want the development authority and the C [0:30:55, 0:31:15]: City Council to have a retreat together. So maybe we should meet um with the Main Street and do a dual meeting and just kind of work out some of the kinks on what was expected, what's needed, and look at the financial portion of it. But it's been in it's been in play for a minute. Yeah, because I was unaware of it. It was uh told to me. [0:31:15, 0:31:35]: Our previous uh Main Street director had said that it there was a halt because of certain things that needed to be done from the engineering side and design side. We have completed that part of it. And my understanding and and I'm I'm still new a little bit myself to the city, my understanding was that there was funding in place, several hundred thousand dollars of funding in place to do the project. [0:31:35, 0:31:55]: Four or five years ago or so and coming on board and hearing about that, I certainly inquired about it, but I don't know where that funding is right now. We can use it or not. So if it's if it's available, certainly we'd love to use it so that we can get the project going. And if it needs to come from another source, I'm certainly willing to do whatever we need to do in order to advance the project. [0:31:55, 0:32:03]: Because from the staff's perspective, and and of course uh Lisa can speak for herself, but we as a unified staff, along with the DDA. [0:32:03, 0:32:23]: And the Main Street, we're very anxious to get started with both of the projects that uh the chair spoke of and and others. So there's landscaping to be good on. There's there's there's a multitude of things that need to be done in downtown, uh including utility relocation, so forth and so on, which I won't go into, but we're anxious to get started on all [0:32:23, 0:32:31]: All of those things and advance them for the purposes of downtown being realized, its true potential can be realized. [0:32:32, 0:32:41]: Mayor, can we can I make a suggestion and we put that on our agenda for the next retreat that we have? We definitely do that. That's the only problem. Mr. Alexander, go ahead. [0:32:41, 0:32:42]: That's unnecessary. [0:32:43, 0:33:03]: The the people are just listen, with all due respect, people are tired of you talking, okay? And they want to see action amongst things to just happen. And uh there's no reason in the last six months that that project couldn't have moved forward. It's twenty-one million dollars in the SPLOSS 5 account. Twenty-one million dollars. And then [0:33:03, 0:33:08]: And we're collecting splas six now. Now Mr. Edmundson, come to the mo come to the podium. [0:33:09, 0:33:18]: We we don't have to keep talking. You sir, who are gonna have to come forward as well. [0:33:19, 0:33:27]: Uh finance director. No, no, not you. I'm talking about a finance director. Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna call him out. Well, you might as well step up here now. Right, he's gonna come up here next. [0:33:29, 0:33:30]: Just hold on a minute. [0:33:31, 0:33:34]: This this is what we gotta understand. [0:33:35, 0:33:55]: You are our new city manager, you're brought here to understand the frustration, not just amongst the main street board, the DDA created a resolution to actually move this project forward too, because we want to see things happen. You have seen there is a consensus right up here right now. [0:33:55, 0:34:15]: There's money in the bank to move this project forward. Right. We can meet till we are and talk this to death. We just had a retreat a couple of months ago about over at the beautiful render, right? We had a retreat over there. We talked about it for the tenth time. Right. Right. The idea is we need someone actionable. [0:34:15, 0:34:35]: To take some actionable steps to move the project forward. The engineering is complete, the right-of-way acquisition is complete. We need someone to go ahead and manage the project so that it actually happens. Now, we requested the the funding analysis from uh the finance department. He [0:34:35, 0:34:55]: Delivered them delivered the numbers to us. We're collecting$700,000 a month in SPLOST. Uh in terms of the new SPLOS when it starts coming in, the SPLOS six. We had a current$21 million in the SPLOS 5 account and the T SPLOST account. We had$17 million in the T SPLOST account, and we also had a [0:34:55, 0:35:15]: A million dollars sitting in a bond that we had bonded for multi-use trails. Now, the Alleyway project, in my opinion, is a trail. You can br you're creating a access that downtown for a gathering space. That million dollar bond could be could be used for that because you're creating [0:35:15, 0:35:35]: A wide accessible trail through that area so that people can move forward with it. Now, I understand certainly there's been some disruption and certain in terms of how we proceed and how we move forward. But the Main Street board, the DDA board, and the business owners want to see action. [0:35:35, 0:35:46]: They're tired of us talking. They want to see action. And and and for the business owners, as far as the business owners concerned, a lot of us can t can uh c can hypothesize what we want. [0:35:47, 0:36:07]: But none of our money personal assets are on the table. The business owners have cash and they have skin in the game. And they're not gonna be able to wait much longer on progress to be able to happen downtown. They need you to hit the ground running on the very first day working on this project and catching us up from the [0:36:07, 0:36:27]: The last uh six or seven months where transition was being made forward. And as a seasoned city manager, that we all agree, right, that you're a seasoned city manager, that you should be able to come in and we should be able to exercise this project and get updated with uh the economic development staff and Mr. Malazzi. [0:36:27, 0:36:47]: If I may, uh council member, uh, and I agree with everything that you said. Um, and in fact, I was taken aback a little bit because I believe any project that's presented before this body, we should understand where that fund is coming from. And if that has been a practice prior to, that would not happen again. No project should be presented to the body. [0:36:47, 0:37:07]: To the governing body without us understanding clean completely where that funding is coming from. So we'll double back and we'll check and and and get a status on these projects and report back. But if we approve the project and we don't understand where the funding comes from, that's the first mistake. And that would not happen under my administration. Uh that's first and foremost. Um [0:37:07, 0:37:27]: Um we owe you answers. We understand that there are a lot of projects uh on on pause in neutral. I'm not understanding why as as well, but I'm gonna get a full readout of what's going on with that. Um as I told you before, I'm about results uh and my team would soon know that um moving forward and this will not be a issue again. So [0:37:27, 0:37:29]: So there you go. [0:37:30, 0:37:30]: Frank? [0:37:33, 0:37:53]: I wish we had discussed before it came before you would have given and given you information and give them information. So we'll get back to you and we'll work with them. If they are on the list, we'll let you know. If they are not, you'll be able to relocate. [0:37:53, 0:37:55]: Allocate the funds for them. [0:37:55, 0:37:56]: Okay. [0:37:56, 0:37:57]: Mayor. Yes, sir. [0:37:59, 0:38:19]: Motion directing the staff and the sit new city manager to look into five to identifying the funding and moving forward with the downtown alleyway project and as Ms. Gantt suggested that they would return to us with the results. Not another meeting, that they were return to us with the results. [0:38:19, 0:38:20]: In the next thirty days. [0:38:23, 0:38:23]: Um [0:38:24, 0:38:27]: That's not necessary, sir. Uh I'm giving you my word here. [0:38:27, 0:38:47]: As a professional, uh when I start on the fourth, uh we're gonna get uh we're gonna roll our sleeves up and get and get going. At the point something is already voted on and and approved, those are priority. And if those priorities shift based off the funding that we got, because right now we also gotta understand our financial situation, right? So it's a lot of moving pieces, a lot of [0:38:47, 0:39:07]: things going on. But what I will assure this body is uh at the point that we definitely have the funding, which I believe we do, um, it's no reason to hold up. Uh it's it's it's absolute no reason to hold up. So I'm telling you here on the record that that's the plan and that's the goal. So so in so in other words, you're saying we don't need a most [0:39:07, 0:39:13]: Motion, you're gonna return to us absolutely within thirty days and we're gonna have a result on the moving this project forward. Yes, sir. [0:39:14, 0:39:17]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Um [0:39:18, 0:39:19]: Real quick. [0:39:20, 0:39:20]: Um [0:39:21, 0:39:27]: The director of Main Street, is there anything you would like to say in regards or your concerns in regards to this project? [0:39:29, 0:39:39]: I know that they that the board members um came up and I really appreciate that. But I wanted to hear from you as well. [0:39:40, 0:39:44]: If you're asking about the alleyway project in particular. [0:39:44, 0:39:48]: А вам тонка Майн стріт адвізорі борд. [0:39:48, 0:40:08]: They've been very supportive over these years. I think the project was introduced in 2019, and there have been several um stop gaps along the way. Um there was initially funding um in September of 2020 with a resolution. Um and there [0:40:08, 0:40:10]: Still has been no [0:40:10, 0:40:16]: Result, I was told by the former city manager that those funds were no longer available. [0:40:17, 0:40:37]: Um, so we continue to reintroduce the project each year during our work plan. And part of our work plan for this year was to make sure there was more momentum. We have um a new economic development director who's been um meticulously trying to work with. [0:40:37, 0:40:57]: the other directors to move it forward. My most recent understanding is that although the council has listed downtown development as number three in their list of things to do, I was not aware that we were given a funding source for the Alleyway project. So um that is [0:40:57, 0:41:00]: One thing. The other thing that um [0:41:01, 0:41:06]: uh Mister Hopkins brought forward was that because we have so much more [0:41:06, 0:41:11]: activity in the downtown than we've ever had before, which is a good problem to have. [0:41:12, 0:41:13]: There have been some challenges that [0:41:14, 0:41:34]: Have arisen out of that circumstance. Some of them are a bit worrisome. So we feel that it would be important for us to re-evaluate the codes and ordinances that exist that may be outdated based on our modern downtown and the fact that we have more businesses. [0:41:34, 0:41:49]: Is trying to come into the district. We we've worked very hard, especially once our office was moved out of City Hall and put on the ground in Main Street to make it uh a community, a neighborhood among [0:41:50, 0:41:52]: all of the business owners and um [0:41:53, 0:41:55]: Frankly, we've had some [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: concerns from some of the owners that [0:41:58, 0:42:02]: They don't feel like they're being treated fairly. They feel like there's um [0:42:02, 0:42:10]: some bullying going on when when it comes to parking. Obviously we have limited parking like every downtown. But um [0:42:10, 0:42:13]: Our our board uh no sorry, not our board. Our [0:42:14, 0:42:26]: department has tried to make attempts at putting in signage, um giving parking passes to the business owners, um, several different things, but it's going to require more. [0:42:28, 0:42:37]: I guess law on the books for the parking issue to be addressed. In addition to that, we have the Norfolk Southern extension that [0:42:38, 0:42:45]: um Mr. Sanders is working on so that we can get additional parking in the downtown. Um [0:42:46, 0:42:50]: We want to just make sure that we have the ability to. [0:42:51, 0:42:58]: Govern fairly. You have a district manager, but we need to make sure that the district manager [0:42:58, 0:43:05]: Is treating everyone with respect and being treated with respect based on what the city's standards and protocols are. [0:43:06, 0:43:26]: Thank you. Um, in regards to the parking, uh the the RSVP study, interesting enough, thought that there was plenty of parking in downtown. It th it actually states it and it gets creative on ways that there are ways to make that a creative s creative spaces, so to speak. [0:43:26, 0:43:46]: But they mentioned the typical downtown, like any other downtown, whether you're in Atlanta or anywhere else, you're gonna have those challenges. Um, I was in downtown Spaudon County today for court this morning and I drove around for fifteen minutes looking for a park. It is not abnormal. It's a problem that you're gonna have in every municipality. So [0:43:46, 0:44:00]: So it's something that, you know, we hear, we hear you loud and clear. But I want Miss Free, thank you so much for your diligence on that. Um w let's just we'll come together and work together to find a resolution. [0:44:01, 0:44:07]: I want to go to my right side. You all have anything comments down at all? Go write it, please. [0:44:10, 0:44:30]: Uh thank you, Mr. Hopkins, um, for bringing this forward. I do support the Aloe project. I am the district representative of our downtown area. So when there are concerns, I like to be made aware of them, if you would please. Um have those business owners to reach out to me. I have spoken with. [0:44:30, 0:44:30]: Yeah. [0:44:31, 0:44:38]: Um at least two of them who've expressed concerns regarding parking and other issues, but I like to hear from all of them. [0:44:39, 0:44:46]: If there are any businesses or any residents who have concerns that live in the downtown area [0:44:47, 0:44:49]: I am your representative. [0:44:49, 0:44:52]: please reach out to me directly. [0:44:52, 0:44:53]: I like to hear about them. [0:44:54, 0:44:59]: So that I can work with staff and the city manager to resolve those issues. Um [0:44:59, 0:45:12]: One other thing that I did request though, and this is for Mr. Edmondson, um, the Main Street Board brought a idea of a project to the council, I believe back in 2021. [0:45:13, 0:45:33]: Um it was the shipping container district, where temporary shipping containers could be used in the downtown area. I like for them to bring that project back to the council for us to reconsider it. I believe that will increase more foot traffic. That's what we want to see, especially during the concert season. [0:45:33, 0:45:38]: Reasons. Um I do want to just make a request. [0:45:40, 0:45:46]: During our council retreats is the opportunity for all boards. [0:45:46, 0:45:54]: All boards should be included and involved in our council retreats. [0:45:54, 0:45:57]: These are the discussions that should be had. [0:45:57, 0:45:58]: During our retreats. [0:45:59, 0:46:01]: I asked that earlier this year. [0:46:02, 0:46:03]: I asked it. [0:46:03, 0:46:04]: Last year. [0:46:04, 0:46:08]: So that boards are not working as silos. [0:46:08, 0:46:11]: and trying to resolve issues that go nowhere. [0:46:12, 0:46:16]: Um I also want to ask, and just this is just from Mr. Edmondson. [0:46:17, 0:46:19]: He hasn't even started his first day yet. [0:46:20, 0:46:40]: There are a lot of priorities of our city that's gonna that's gonna require your focus. I ask that you please, sir, take the time to review all of the priorities, not just this one. Right. All priorities of our city. I trust your judgment, I trust your leadership. Um [0:46:40, 0:47:00]: So and if I may, um one thing I'm realizing very early on as well as I go through here for the past couple of weeks, uh just having conversations with staff, so on so forth, my concern early on, I'm just gonna come on out, uh, is I just want to make sure that we are not picking up projects and throwing stuff against the wall. [0:47:00, 0:47:02]: [2822.9, 2833.9]: I I need to see the comprehensive plan. I need to see the master plan because if we're not going by that, then I think we are making a huge mistake. The problem with growing and smart growth is that you have to have a plan. [0:47:14, 0:47:34]: Right. And just because you want to build something here or put something over here doesn't mean it makes sense in the long term. So I want to make sure that we are strategizing and that we are going by a master plan or comprehensive plan. And if we're not, then what are we doing? Are we going to modify that? Is it time to renew? Which I think is about that time again. So some of these conversations need to be had. [0:47:34, 0:47:43]: What I don't want staff to do is be presenting items or ideas based off everybody have an idea. The faster way to not get nothing done is try to do everything. [0:47:43, 0:48:03]: And we don't have a plan and we don't have a strategy how to get there, then I think we are planning to fail. And that's not I'm gonna be on my watch. So what I'd like to do is actually look at the comprehensive plan in each department based on what project list that we got, because we have a master project list as well as uh for the city that includes the downtown and the [0:48:03, 0:48:18]: other par projects that we have and they need to show me in the comprehensive plan where that relates at. If they can't show me then then guess what? Then we need to talk about where that priority goes. Because as far as I'm concerned, either we going by the comprehensive plan or we need a new a new directive to go in a different direction. [0:48:19, 0:48:39]: Okay, good. Stand by for a second, please. Hold your thought. Sir, did you have anything that you need to add? I don't want to add anything, just again, you guys know that I have your yeah, I support you guys in every uh endeavor in this project and I'm really waiting to see once you get in and get your hands dirty, Ms. Emerson, and see what you can unearth and bring everything to to the you know to the forefront. [0:48:39, 0:48:41]: Right. Right. Absolutely. [0:48:42, 0:49:02]: I bet it. Yes, sir. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Let me tell you this. We do have a plan. Good. We the council voted on the projects. There was not, we ranked them in the priority that we want them based off the plan that was put together. We need you and the staff to execute the project. [0:49:01, 0:49:21]: plan. That's what we need. We need action, not any more talk. We need action. We need somebody to come in and say, let me take the bull by the horns and let me move forward with these particular projects. The alleyway project was ranked three, right? There was a couple before that. But those are the ones that the council [0:49:21, 0:49:38]: prioritize based off retreats that we already had, that we mashed up, spent all day talking about it, and finally came to consensus on all of on the issues with ranked how we wanted them ranked. And then with the funds that are particularly [0:49:38, 0:49:45]: Coming in. I appreciate you coming in before your time. But let me say this, okay? There's seven hundred parking spaces right there. [0:49:45, 0:49:46]: Okay. [0:49:47, 0:50:07]: Uh see, I don't get caught up into I can't walk a half a block across the street, across the railroad tracks. If you go to any downtown, I go to Atlanta, I go to Augusta, I go to Marietta, I go to Smyrna, I gotta walk a little bit. Should we have a parking deck down here? Yes. But there's n this shortage of parking when you got two businesses that are open. [0:50:07, 0:50:10]: and downtown blows my mind. Two. [0:50:10, 0:50:30]: Right? No so it's not like there's a lot of activity down there, except that when there's a there's concerts going on, it's a smoke screen for the other issues that are going on between the business owners and personalities and stuff like that. I I it's a smoke screen. It really is. There's not a dearth of parking. [0:50:30, 0:50:38]: The issue is that the only improvement that I'd like to see move forward is we worked out an agreement with Norfolk Southern. [0:50:38, 0:50:58]: As a trade-off, they gave us fifty thousand dollars to close the Nolan Street exit. And that part of that agreement included closing this downtown station and transition. That should have happened. That's I don't care if we gotta call them every single day. Somebody needs to be on that. That needs to happen. [0:50:58, 0:51:18]: I know the railroad is very hard to deal with, but the transaction was written down how it was supposed to be executed, and the city has received the$50,000 for closing that exit. That part one has taken place, part two has not taken place, and that's because we gotta have somebody that's determined not to hear the word use. [0:51:18, 0:51:38]: Yeah, no, we're not accepting no that we the railroad is hard to deal with, this, that, is that keep making that phone call if you gotta make it every day in order to make things happen. And and let me say this, the two businesses, the new businesses that are down uh in downtown, obviously they're very frustrated with what's going with what has taken place. [0:51:38, 0:51:58]: But they have money at stake. They have skin in the game into what they're doing. So their opinion is always going to matter and where we and where we need to go in all of that. Obviously, there's not going to be 100% agreement on what the process is to move forward, but certainly we're seeing activity in downtown. [0:51:58, 0:52:11]: like we've never seen before. The the new restaurant now is jam packed almost every single day. That's something that we could have only dreamed of m maybe just a year and a half or eighteen months ago. [0:52:12, 0:52:21]: 114, Martin Luther King, Senior Heritage Trail, the roof was literally falling in, right? The loot the roof was literally caving in. [0:52:22, 0:52:33]: It was put on the market, it was rehabbed, it's now a prized possession. Anybody in this entire area would love to uh uh to uh support it and to be at it. [0:52:34, 0:52:38]: What we're doing in downtown actually attracted them. [0:52:39, 0:52:59]: But they're frustrated because they've seen the plan. It's called the RSVP plan. It's a broad concept that was put together, and then the council did rank choice on what we needed to do, prioritizing what downtown needs to be. I don't expect all the answers today, but I'll expect that the paperwork and all the meetings have been had. [0:52:59, 0:53:04]: At execution time at the highest level is what the priority is in my opinion. [0:53:05, 0:53:15]: All right. We have plenty of conversation. Thank you. And and uh Mr Edmundson, welcome to Stockbridge where community connects, sir. Yes, sir. Okay. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [0:53:17, 0:53:37]: Comment from the chair. Sure. Go ahead, please. Since I've been uh active member of this board over five and a half years, this boy has always had a liaison. Unfortunately that uh Councilman Thomas has been out. Uh none that he can do. But I think it's very important. It's imperative to [0:53:37, 0:53:57]: That our board, the Main Street Bible, have a liaison to this honorable board here. And it's just things that I deal with, I have to do things that make sense. And downtown is district two, is is is uh Councilman Barber's district. I I have I it my recommendation. [0:53:57, 0:53:58]: Recommendations don't mean anything. I understand that. [0:54:00, 0:54:07]: I understand that, but I would love to have Councilman Barber on uh Aliza in her district so that we can get things done. Thank you. [0:54:07, 0:54:15]: All right. All right. Appreciate that. Thank you. No problem. Thank you. I accept your recommendation, sir. And thank you. Thank you all. [0:54:17, 0:54:18]: All right. Um [0:54:20, 0:54:30]: Excuse me? Okay. So what we have next or are presentations and actually the presentations deal with the city managers, yeah presentation along with our other [0:54:30, 0:54:33]: directors. Council, you have the presentations in your book now. [0:54:34, 0:54:53]: I mean there's several ways we can do this. I mean I can highlight mine, I c the city manager's piece there. I highlight the rest of the rest of those presentations for each one of the department heads. Uh we can go through that. It'll take some time to highlight all those, uh, but they're all in front of you, all the things that happened uh highlighted for the last quarter uh in that aspect as well. [0:54:54, 0:55:14]: And one of the highlights in reference to the city manager's uh position here is conducting me uh meet uh weekly uh staff meetings, which is uh occurred on Tuesday as nine o'clock typically. And uh the retreat, we had a staff budget retreat on 22 uh 23 May. Um and then of course uh been participating with the other uh city management. [0:55:14, 0:55:34]: managers and county managers for a uh joint meeting on a regular basis. And uh of course uh attending with the the uh the edge the actual economic director on the civic sign is uh meeting and of course council meetings as well and ribbon cuttings and ceremonies for new businesses and uh the financial manager Mr. Lazi and I have had quite a bit of conversation [0:55:34, 0:55:36]: [3337.0, 3342.0]: So that's just some of the highlights in that aspect. But that's where city manager directed. But what we have next would be [0:55:42, 0:55:44]: What we have next could be be [0:55:44, 0:55:52]: easily a whole bunch of other things for each one of the departments. And um I can easily go through those or have the I'm sorry, uh you're Demetrius, you were doing something? [0:55:53, 0:56:13]: Okay, go ahead. All right. So say for instance if uh Ms. Malazi is here, but uh if you look in your your presentation, he talks about the twenty twenty-five Homestate exemption closed on April first, twenty twenty-five. The twenty twenty-four fiscal audit is just about complete, successfully implemented the federal finance reporting and projects. [0:56:13, 0:56:15]: Procedures per grants requirements that we need. [0:56:16, 0:56:26]: received the first SPLOS six in June, SOS six funding in June. And of course will carry out for our various projects that we just talked about, citywide projects for the next six years. [0:56:26, 0:56:33]: And uh met with all the federal grants and requirements, uh no longer hold up for drawdowns or encourage particular expenses and reimbursements there. [0:56:34, 0:56:45]: And of course we'll uh we'll get to the point for the FY twenty twenty six uh budget process it'll be uh something we'll get to here shortly as well as as uh time goes on. [0:56:46, 0:57:06]: The city clerk's report that you have there was Miss Vanessa Holliday. Of course, they prepare uh 35 meeting agendas, attended 16 uh council committee and board meetings, 21 operational staffs and agenda review meetings, 10 training sessions they've had, 1,900 meeting and minutes uh prescribed on [0:57:06, 0:57:15]: all that thirty one proclamations and letters and eighth oath of offices and a hundred and fifty three open records requests is and I don't know if that sets a record or not, but it's a whole lot. [0:57:17, 0:57:37]: Our admin uh council, our admin support staff deals with Miss Rawls and Miss Eatman, and of course they as you well know Council, they support all our initiatives, which is a m a number of m things in the Bingo, Bash, State of the City Address, Mother's Day Tea, National Day of Prayer, you know, meet the mayor, the country. [0:57:37, 0:57:43]: community cleanup, um the classic uh Father Day s uh celebration, town halls. [0:57:44, 0:58:04]: And that uh we are yeah, so they're quite busy with uh initiatives that we have. The IT department um has several different things that occurred in the last several months. Setting up uh you know new accounts and and decommissioning of old ones, review and manage user permissions, access controls, run and verify regular backups. [0:58:04, 0:58:20]: Evaluate upcoming tech needs and upgrade uh our IT documentation and knowledge base and track SLAs and resolution times. Just highlighting a few here,'cause I I can be here all night reading all these things, right? Evaluate cybersecurity, posture and tools, which is extremely important these days as well. [0:58:21, 0:58:41]: Human Resources with uh Miss Renee Wheelers director, as a director there. Um we have ten open positions last quarter, eight new hires, five summer interns. We honored those interns just last week with a luncheon and thanked them for their service uh for us over the last several months. Um gave several different stroke and awareness, bone health. [0:58:41, 0:59:01]: type of health and wellness programming, monthly coaching and meeting with the employees, and uh presentation what how to be a good human challenge in a sense is aspect as we've done. Safety and risk management, working works workers compet uh compensation claims uh four of those have been open, incurred uh roughly fifty nine thousand five hundred dollars [0:59:01, 0:59:21]: on that. And uh we've had some actually um navigating mental health and work in workplace anti-harassment and workplace bullying training, just on training to protect our workforce and this aspect, improving local government team decision making process. Public works department. We've actually added [0:59:21, 0:59:41]: two city sweeper trucks. Um let's see here. Um so of course the city is divided in uh into five um with five street sweeping uh zones and each zone is swept on an average of uh three times per year and uh let's see here and of course the sweepers de uh des designated to and be routed to [0:59:41, 0:59:45]: And let's see. [0:59:47, 1:00:07]: Overhead signage replacement project when reference assigns identify what streets that you're on. Mr. Anderson who deals with his quarter report deals with community director, director. Occupational taxes, roughly for the last quarter, if I understand this right, 72,136. Financial institutions 12573, alcohol licenses. [1:00:07, 1:00:27]: Is$12,500. Any type of late fees that we have curred that we have obtained for$17,864. Regulatory fees,$5,100. The total of that particular occupational tax nap, uh, um, all those particular subsets is$246,061. Hotel motel tax. [1:00:27, 1:00:47]: 314, excuse me, 312 and uh$312,091. Consumption from um uh there are particular spirits there in the in the strawberry area, forty two forty-two thousand six hundred and sixty-eight. And consumption that is beer is eighty six, eighty eight thousand. [1:00:47, 1:01:05]: Wine 31,251. The steel spirits of 59,194. Business services five hundred and fifteen thousand two hundred thirty uh two hundred and thirty. Permitting fees for the last quarter, seven hundred and ninety-seven thousand eight hundred eighty-five. [1:01:05, 1:01:07]: Playing is only seven thousand seven hundred. [1:01:07, 1:01:11]: Fire marshal himself with uh for last quarter twenty one thousand five seventy five. [1:01:12, 1:01:17]: And total revenue in that particular particular department is one million three hundred forty two thousand three hundred ninety one. [1:01:19, 1:01:39]: Yeah, Economic Development Department. Uh we briefed with uh Mr. Sanders just talking to us earlier and we'd have it on here deals with North Force Southern Rail parking lot the lease agreement, which we're still working on. We're gonna have a briefing here shortly about the special service district. Um and of course there's some uh concerns in reference to uh how we go forward with the Georgia Power utility relocation. [1:01:39, 1:01:42]: in our downtown area to look at putting those utilities underground. [1:01:43, 1:01:47]: And the alleyway project also, as we just discussed, is on this particular report as well. [1:01:47, 1:02:07]: Economic Development Target Quarterly Report continues uh Main Street program recertification and uh and it's uh deals with um the three representatives uh from the state of uh State Department Community Affairs in Noonan, Georgia, and a meeting they had in March this last quarter. Uh let's see here. [1:02:07, 1:02:12]: [3735.0, 3755.0]: Events Department manages the Merrill Manors Conference Center and of course the total revenue for the past quarter is sixty thousand dollars in reference to that. Preparation for of course for the uh 2025 events uh deals with artist booking for free concerts, vendor coordination, marketing, promotion, sponsorship, outreach, and logistics planning. [1:02:35, 1:02:55]: And uh we just uh we actually had to cancel our our vi final um tasty Tuesday, food truck tasty Tuesday this evening due to to the hate uh to the heat and the safety conditions in reference to how hot it would get in the area. And uh so that's kicked back up uh next uh next year, the second quarter next year. Back to school giveaway was quite a success. Uh [1:02:54, 1:03:14]: A little over a week ago. And then we also had a very successful Juneteenth and Fourth of July celebration. And Bridge Fest is coming here in the fall. Let's see Municipal Court. New citation forwarded to the court, 1,317 citation scheduled for the [1:03:14, 1:03:34]: The court 1698. Cases scheduled for the court 1,344. And those are broken down by individuals and businesses. Red Street was red speed citation scheduled for a virtual court 116. Now this with folks obviously speeding through the school zones, and now schools start starting to work. [1:03:34, 1:03:44]: starts on actually the thirty first, so obviously those recipe cameras will be back on. Uh so you gotta slow down when you're in those uh particular uh areas uh where the school with kids are going to school. [1:03:45, 1:04:05]: Okay, so we got bench trial. We got several things here. Total payments collected though$281,196. Stockbridge finance, our police department. Um highlights uh from the last quarter here says here total arrests 193, felony arrests 40, misdemeanor arrests 153, stolen vehicle. [1:04:05, 1:04:25]: Vehicles that were covered was 19, firearms E's were 26. And we focus, of course, the focus on proactive patrols, high crime areas, saturation, and targeted enforcement efforts. And quite a bit, our code enforcement is doing quite a bit as well. Total cases opened last quarter, 320. [1:04:25, 1:04:45]: 23 cases resolved, 221 of those of those. And some of our top violations, unfortunately, is over overgrown grass grass, street parking, junk motor vehicles, property maintenance, uh, banner displaced um property, let's see, targets uh target neighborhoods with blight health and safety. [1:04:45, 1:04:45]: Safety. [1:04:46, 1:04:48]: Mm, that's just someone highly here. [1:04:50, 1:05:10]: Detective division crime scene. Just total case is 442. Cases cleared 1977 by arrest. Exceptional 12 founded uh says nine here. Um property evidence and items released disposed of is twenty-three. Our police department is very active in and keeping us protected and [1:05:10, 1:05:11]: Safe here, ladies and gentlemen. [1:05:12, 1:05:23]: I mean I'm just uh I can go on and on and on, but I don't want to bore you with all these details, but we're doing very successful things here. Let's see here. Um City Wide Development Authority has a report in here as well. [1:05:25, 1:05:35]: And um let's see here. Doing doing things to for marketing pri and p and public engagement sub subcommittee. And um [1:05:35, 1:05:45]: working on marketing agency through the ED development uh department for billboard ad development on 175 and uh looking through those edits and get those taken care of. [1:05:51, 1:05:53]: Stockbridge Youth Council, our young folks. [1:05:54, 1:06:14]: With the adult leadership. Youth Council has 15 members, eight active members, seven interviewing. Matter of fact, during the interview process for the next uh 2020 25, 26 season. Um I look forward to swearing those young folks in here shortly. And the past activities they've had, uh there's an air area beautification. They've [1:06:14, 1:06:34]: had a Starbert Youth Council uh dinner and discussion and uh and actually in a sense uh wishing those seniors well as they go on to college and other and their next activities in life. And supported, I guess, a Mother's Tea Day, a T T uh Mother's Day tea, excuse me, senior banquet, and they supported the um Father's Day luncheon. [1:06:36, 1:06:46]: Okay. And the distributors just the passing out of the of all the book the book bags and and supplies, distribution, excuse me. [1:06:47, 1:06:47]: All right. [1:06:49, 1:06:50]: Okay. [1:06:50, 1:07:10]: I'll tell you what, I will end that there. Council, you have those uh to look at it. I don't know if there's necessary to have any other staff members come forward, but uh just to give you the highlights, some highlights and reference for the the cumulus here or cumulus listening online. I mean it can get very long-winded, then we go minute line by line. So I'll stop at that point. Um what we have [1:07:10, 1:07:18]: Have next would be the Economic Development Presentation Special Service District presented by um Gerald Sanders and Mr. John Ernst, please. [1:07:27, 1:07:47]: Good evening, Mayor. Council. Good evening. I'm John. I'm joined by John Ernst this evening, who is our consultant and attorney with the special service district. He's no stranger to the city or to the council. The special service district boundary was originally approved by council in October of 2024. So we [1:07:47, 1:07:54]: We have a boundary in place. There is a resolution that was prepared at that time that signifies that. [1:07:55, 1:08:15]: What we're going to do this evening, and Mr. Ernst is actually going to do the presentation. We have a PowerPoint presentation for you. He's going to talk about some of the practical uses of special service district as it can potentially and how it can potentially help the city with some of its funding needs for a number of projects that we have. So without further ado, I'm [1:08:15, 1:08:35]: I'm gonna uh ask him to come to the mic and start his presentation, if you would please. Well, thank you, Gerald. Thank you, uh Mayor and Council for having me here today. Um, you know, oh I got a little thing. Let's see if it works. There you go, it does. Excellent. Um, I was asked to come here, uh as you guys remember. [1:08:34, 1:08:54]: Remember, I was here back in October when we uh when I presented the special service district. You guys uh passed it. Um I have subsequently since working on on uh establishing the district, working with your s former city manager with uh with the the maps, uh getting the maps to the uh tax commissioner. [1:08:54, 1:09:14]: And tax assessors to create the digest for you guys to then decide what you would like to do and what projects you would like to be able to use. Special Service District really is just a tool, a funding tool that cities around the state are just starting to use. [1:09:14, 1:09:34]: Brookhaven City Hall. Um it took from uh basically three years and one month from the time I uh was chicken scratching with the architect to when we actually grant uh opened it, the document uh opened the building. The opening happened on on this Friday. So um you can see other areas. [1:09:34, 1:09:35]: going for the right. [1:09:36, 1:09:56]: Um cities have these are the ones here are the historical funding strategies for cities. It's general fund, general obligation bonds, T SPLOS, TADS, grants. You guys all know this. You've heard about this multiple times. As we all know, grants, especially federal, under this administration. [1:09:56, 1:10:16]: are probably gonna be a little bit further and farther between. Likelihood of getting grants are gonna become smaller, not just for you or city, but for all cities across the country. Um and a special service district can be a way to to help uh to help implement uh the the plans that you guys have. Um like your current city [1:10:16, 1:10:36]: uh about to be current city manager uh space uh stated is you know you have your plans, you align your plans with your financing, um, and then and that's the way you can get projects done and and and and rock it forward. I was brought here s tal a little bit to talk about the um aspects [1:10:35, 1:10:55]: Of you know, of uh you guys had got a presentation about a uh a CID, a community investment uh div uh uh district. And CIDs are great tools that other cities have allotted. Now, the the issues with CIDs is CIDs are made up of the the business owners of that. [1:10:55, 1:11:15]: that area. It is not controlled by the city. They have they may have different priorities than the city can have. You can have both a CID and an SSD on the same pieces of property. There's nothing that stops that. But you know if you want to go down the CID path, that is, you know, this is something you can do. But [1:11:15, 1:11:35]: But all the things that CID can do, an SSD can do. If you want beautification, you can do that. You want a little uh increase in the police presence in that district, you can do that. Um, you want to um build uh pathways or alleyways, uh you can do that um with it. Anything the CID can do. [1:11:35, 1:11:42]: do an SSD can do. And it's and it's just the council itself making the decision on what those priorities are. [1:11:44, 1:11:50]: Again, SSDs are allows elect officials to provide or enhance services in a specific area. [1:11:51, 1:12:03]: Uh I have this little sheet here. Again, it talks about lots of different items of an SSD. Uh the equity. Uh the the community that benefits directly from the new service is the one that's paying for it. [1:12:03, 1:12:23]: Um, you know, but it can benefit uh disadvantaged communities around because um these uh uh this this the funding for this these projects come off of the maybe the general fund and can be uh moved to disadvantaged communities. There's uh no legal limit on SSD rate. Um a bond is just [1:12:23, 1:12:43]: whatever you want with the SSD digest. So you can dream, you know, you uh the only limit is what you guys decide. Um you obviously it's extremely flexible. Um you can do projects, you can do services, you can do multiple different things. You have a a [1:12:43, 1:13:03]: uh steady stream of of revenue that you can budget off of or you can bond off of to get those projects done. And you know, you can team up with other jurisdictions or agencies um uh to to provide those different services like um and so you can team up with counties [1:13:03, 1:13:23]: uh or like i said agencies whether it be i mean um uh your your develop downtown development authority you can uh team up with in even marta or something like that if you wanted to do something transit related so it is uh greatly you know greatly flexible this is the district you guys saw this [1:13:23, 1:13:43]: this district um during this the retreat. This is the exact same thing. Nothing changed in that. Here. And you're also, I believe, right after this, going to be voting just to kind of reiterate the district in this map that you guys [1:13:43, 1:13:49]: passed in October uh in today and I hope you guys uh do pass it. Um [1:13:49, 1:14:09]: This also leads to other different um uh creative financing. You can you use an SSD as a value capture thing. So you can you don't have to you have one s SSD. You can create other SSDs in the layer on top. And one of the great things out there you could do uh value capture is basically say, hey, we put [1:14:09, 1:14:25]: this SSD on, we're doing a project, all that value of the properties, we're not going to tax that that is currently there. But if there's an increase in value, you can put a uh you know a fee on that uh and help recapture some of that value. [1:14:26, 1:14:46]: Again, the belt line is being built. The land belt line everyone talks about is being built by the land of uh by the an SSD. They did a tad initially. It wasn't enough money, so they had to do an SSD. The uh Stitch project that's going out there, uh they're creating SSD for the local match if they get it. Again, Brookhaven City Center, uh [1:14:46, 1:15:06]: I mentioned Avondale uh States has has an SSD and now you guys do too. So at you know at this point it comes into the uh you know factor of um of what do you want to get done um and and plan and and finance and and make those decisions uh when uh the diet [1:15:05, 1:15:12]: I just comes in and um when uh when you get into to m setting rates. So um [1:15:13, 1:15:23]: You know, that's kinda a quick reiteration of what I've spoken for about before. Uh so if I haven't you have you guys any questions, I'm here to answer'em now. [1:15:23, 1:15:43]: I tell you what um you mentioned and I believe uh what I understood you said that SSD and long a CID can be on top of each other in a sense. But I imagine that if we wanted it well, I know with some talk about having a CID, which we I say we'd like to do as well, but I would think that this census d deals with CID and SSD deal with taxing of commercial businesses. [1:15:43, 1:16:03]: You probably wouldn't want to overtax those those closer businesses. Probably wouldn't be a smart thing to do. So we're not going to be able to do that. [1:16:03, 1:16:20]: classifications or even which properties are in the SSD. A CID cannot um be uh you know, cannot uh tax any residential property, cannot um or uh assess any uh residential property whatsoever, including apartments as we discussed in October. So [1:16:20, 1:16:40]: But yes, I would agree with you. The likelihood of layering an SSD and a CID uh all at one time is probably not the smartest political um or financial uh uh best practices. I it's part of Brookhaven CID, duh SSD is on a CID. Um and uh [1:16:40, 1:16:47]: Uh, but they do do completely different services. So they those business owners accepted it. It wasn't the whole whole district. [1:16:48, 1:16:51]: Okay, thank you. Council, any questions? Yeah, go ahead, please. [1:16:52, 1:17:12]: So this the map well thank you sir for your presentation. No problem. The map is illegible. I can't really see it. Um so I need to know specifically the areas. Uh uh the the map is Ben should be presented on your uh resolution uh pro [1:17:12, 1:17:23]: following next that would be for a clearer resolution. I just printed off, you know, I just copied the the the map that I was provided by the city um or put it on there. [1:17:23, 1:17:29]: Are you saying you you desire to have a bigger one? I can't read this. Okay. We'll we'll see if we can get a bigger one. Yeah. [1:17:31, 1:17:43]: Um the next question is for Mr. Edmondson. I want to know has he had the opportunity to review this and what is his suggestion or recommendation for this? [1:17:45, 1:18:05]: Uh yes, ma'am, I did have the opportunity to uh look at the map. In fact, we thought uh along with the clerk, um this been approved a while ago. However, the map was not attached to the resolution, but we thought for transparency and clarity that they need to repres uh repr present this and include the map so that we could go ahead and move forward with it. But I have looked at it. [1:18:05, 1:18:11]: Um, I just want to make sure it was clean and everybody crystal clear on what that map looks like to attach to that resolution. So [1:18:14, 1:18:14]: Okay. [1:18:17, 1:18:22]: I can I can have the uh a larger copy printed out to eleven by seventeen. [1:18:22, 1:18:24]: That'd be better for you, ma'am? Okay, we can do that. [1:18:25, 1:18:25]: Yeah. [1:18:26, 1:18:43]: Or yeah, if it's not on your computer or or anything like that, you could blow it up individually. It has not changed from the one that was presented to the council at the retreat. It is the same map. It it is the exact same map. Yeah, it just wasn't approved and we want to make sure [1:18:43, 1:19:01]: that for the record it was a formally approved to be a part of the resolution. But it was already passed, but I didn't want y you know, it to come back up and somebody said, well, we didn't even vote on this map. So uh it was advised to put it back on this agenda to make sure that it got voted on the right way. [1:19:01, 1:19:02]: Yes, ma'am. [1:19:04, 1:19:05]: Any other questions, Councilman? [1:19:06, 1:19:06]: Okay. [1:19:08, 1:19:28]: Thank you very much. Presentation is fantastic, Mr. Ernst. Thank you, sir. Thank you guys. Look forward to working with you guys more in the future with this. Absolutely. Thank you. Actually, what what is next now is economic development presentation, special service district, and um okay, I'm sorry, the SSD map itself, the district that we just talked about. Right. So in a reference to a [1:19:28, 1:19:48]: Uh a motion to accept that and and to add it to that resolution to clean up everything. So that is correct. And mayor, I would just like to mention that you all did approve a resolution back in 2024 uh out of an abundance of caution and consulting with the city attorney and as mr as the new city manager mentioned, we're giving you we're asking you to approve an updated resolution. [1:19:48, 1:20:08]: That's in your package along with the map. Uh my understanding was is that previously when the resolution was approved, the map was missing. And so what we want to do this evening is get you to approve an updated resolution along with the same map that you've uh that was that that encompasses the district. So that's the clarification. [1:20:08, 1:20:09]: All right. [1:20:34, 1:20:36]: Okay, zero. [1:20:36, 1:20:38]: Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. [1:20:43, 1:20:46]: So is there a motion to accept this now that you can see it and view it? [1:20:50, 1:20:51]: Motion to approve. [1:20:51, 1:20:52]: Sir a second. [1:20:53, 1:20:56]: I second. Ms. Cannon Fair please indicate. [1:20:58, 1:21:03]: Okay, you now have a decision. Thank you very much. Thank you, Daryl. Ms. Ernst, appreciate it. [1:21:06, 1:21:19]: What's next? New business council consideration to fill vacancies to appoint a member of the Main Street Advisory Board to fill the remainder of the term. And it says Megan here. Okay. [1:21:20, 1:21:36]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. There is a vacancy on the Main Street Advisory Board. Um and we are asking that you guys consider filling that vacancy. Um there has been one vacancy and one application. [1:21:36, 1:21:40]: for you to consider. Um that application is from Mr. Jalen Holman. [1:21:42, 1:21:51]: Um the background check has returned as clean and the Main Street Advisory Board recommends approval and the economic development uh committee re also recommends approval. [1:21:52, 1:21:53]: Mayor. Yes, sir. [1:21:54, 1:22:14]: I would like to recommend Jalen Holman for this job. Jalen is a landscape architect. Young man grew up right across the street from his parents, raised him along with my son in my in my neighborhood, and they are the salt of the earth of the community. And Jalen is a wonderful young man that went off to the University of Georgia. [1:22:14, 1:22:21]: Georgia and he works uh as a landscape architect and he'd be a great addition to this board. So move. [1:22:21, 1:22:23]: Okay. Is there a second? [1:22:25, 1:22:26]: For Mr. Alexander two. [1:22:29, 1:22:30]: Mm. [1:22:30, 1:22:32]: Mr. Bairsecond, I'll fairly please indicate. [1:22:34, 1:22:38]: Okay, it's an unanimous decision. Thank you very much. And welcome to uh Mr. Holman. [1:22:39, 1:22:39]: Okay. [1:22:41, 1:22:44]: Text amendment, case T X two zero [1:22:44, 1:23:04]: Two five-01 citywide first reading. Council consideration of the Text Amendment to amend Title Twelve Unified Development Code, Section 2.5.3 E and Section 2.5.3 F to the City Stockbridge Code of Ordinances relating to a downtown village DT overlay district so as to add certain uses uh [1:23:04, 1:23:24]: to the list of special uses requiring a special use permit, and to remove certain uses from the list of prohibited uses to allow them to now be permitted uses, provided that certain requirements are met to provide for severity, seribility of excuse me, to repeal conflicting ordinances. [1:23:24, 1:23:44]: To provide an effective date and other purposes. Mr. Anderson, please. Good evening. Um, this is um the latest step. If I could. All right. So this downtown overlay, what brought it forward? You brought it forward or it was a brought it forward. [1:23:44, 1:23:55]: Bringing it forward, but it's also needed to facilitate the development of the three acres across from City Hall. Okay. Across from Eastern Land. So this was generated by community development? Yes. Okay, thank you. [1:23:55, 1:24:00]: But um this is just a presentation of the night. Um we'll bring it back for the public hearing uh on August eleventh. [1:24:01, 1:24:02]: Okay. [1:24:02, 1:24:22]: So I'll I'll be I'll go through this real fast. You know in um planning and zoning, um a zoning ordinance is considered a living document. So from time to time you would need to amend it to improve the document. Uh our zoning ordinance is currently um three years old. It was approved in uh March of 2022. Uh that was right before I got here in nursing. [1:24:22, 1:24:42]: Some things that are included in that zoning ordinance that r really aren't applicable to the city of Stockbridge. Uh the current zoning ordinance were was written in uh with a for an established, more like an established city instead of a a growing city like the city of Stockbridge. So there are some things in there that really need to be changed and [1:24:42, 1:24:47]: And modernize and um to make more applicable to the city of Stockbridge. [1:24:48, 1:24:53]: So uh this is about our fifth text amendment since I've been here. So um [1:24:55, 1:24:56]: Um [1:24:57, 1:25:00]: This is for the downtown village overlay. Uh [1:25:01, 1:25:09]: I can't, I'm stuck. Okay. So here's a a current map of the uh downtown village overlay district. It's shown in um [1:25:10, 1:25:12]: And allalic and in the lavender is the PMU. [1:25:13, 1:25:21]: Also, uh about six months ago we did amend um the PMU to make certain um uses there were uh [1:25:21, 1:25:31]: permitted to make those uses um uh available by special use permit and uh to give council more discretion in um the the development that goes on into in t in the city. [1:25:33, 1:25:36]: These are the rules and regulations of the um [1:25:37, 1:25:41]: in uh of the downtown overlay village. I'm not gonna read all this for the sake of time. [1:25:43, 1:26:03]: The purpose of the downtown village overlay district is to recognize and affirm the function of the existing traditional downtown as the central focus of commercial, artesian, and civic activities within the community, to allow the existing downtown to flourish, intensify, and expand wherever it may be appropriate in a manner that is consistent with its traditional. [1:26:03, 1:26:20]: character to provide a local retail service, artesian, and civic community for the community. And currently those three goals and purposes of of the downtown Overlay District conflicts with the text that was written for the downtown Overlay District. So we're trying to improve upon that. [1:26:22, 1:26:29]: The current regulations for the downtown uh village overlay district is governed by section two point five three of the s unified development code. [1:26:32, 1:26:46]: Permitted uses, all permitted uses as provided within the downtown district are applic are permitted in the DT overlay district. Residential units which are located on upper floors above and or to the rear of commercial or office uses. [1:26:47, 1:27:07]: Special uses in the DT Overlay District. Um, special uses, all special uses as provided in the downtown district. The downtown district is the zoning district, and uh the the DTV overlay district sits on top of that. Uh bed and breakfast establishment, multifamily residential buildings, passenger depot. [1:27:07, 1:27:12]: pose and transit shelters, single family residences, uh, [1:27:13, 1:27:20]: Temporary uses in the DT overlay uh district. You have carnival fairs and other similar activities of a temporary nature. [1:27:20, 1:27:40]: Food, trucks, and similar temporary vendors, outdoor recreational and/or educational opportunities and sidewalk sales. Prohibited uses, current prohibitive uses in the DTV, adult entertainment establishment, boarding and rooming homes, catering establishment, child and adult daycare centers, consignment and thrift stores. [1:27:40, 1:27:46]: Family daycare homes, payday loans, title loans, money cash exchanges. [1:27:47, 1:28:01]: Places of worship, public and private schools and related facilities, restaurants with drive-through facilities and/or windows, tobacco and vape shops, tattoos and piercing, and extended stay hotels. The proposed changes by the planning and zoning staff. [1:28:03, 1:28:23]: To amend Title 12 of the UDC Section 2.53E and Section 2.53F for the downtown village overlay district to accomplish accomplish the following. One, add certain uses to the list of special uses requiring a special permit. Number two, remove certain uses from the list of prohibited uses. [1:28:23, 1:28:43]: And allow them to now be permitted uses, provided that certain requirements are met. Reasoning behind staff proposing these changes are businesses are interested in locating certain uses in the DT overlay district, but they are currently not allowed. For instance, you couldn't uh develop the city-owned property across the street, the three acres. [1:28:43, 1:28:56]: because multifamily is not allowed. Two, such uses are already allowed within the adjacent PMU overlay district along North Herring Boulevard. So um the DT [1:28:57, 1:29:05]: The overlay district connects with the PMU, but certain uses are allowed in the PMU that are not allowed in the uh [1:29:05, 1:29:19]: in the DTB overlay but are allowed in the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. So the proposed actions what we're proposing tonight is to remove and replace the existing section 2.53 E and section 2.53 F. [1:29:21, 1:29:35]: Um special uses to be added to the DTV overlay district. Currently you can have gasoline stations, minor automotive services, repair, maintenance cars, car washes, convenience center uh stores, and other associated uses. [1:29:36, 1:29:50]: They're permitted by right. So what we're proposing is that these uses now will require a special use permit, meaning that they will now have to have to come before city council to get approval to open those type of businesses within the downtown uh overlay district. [1:29:52, 1:30:05]: Currently, gasoline stations, minor automotive service repair, maintenance centers, car washes, convenience stores, and other associated uses are permitted by right currently. [1:30:05, 1:30:07]: In the downtown village overlay district. [1:30:08, 1:30:10]: So we're we are proposing is to make those [1:30:11, 1:30:19]: Uh uh permitted by a special use permit, meaning that they will have to come before city council to get approval and take away the the the the right. [1:30:19, 1:30:20]: To do it. [1:30:22, 1:30:39]: That's the same thing we did to the Parkway mixed use overlay district um about seven or eight months ago. Restaurants, takeout establishments, banks, and pharmacies with drive-through facilities and or windows would be allowed with a special use permit and other uses to be determined by the community development director. [1:30:42, 1:31:02]: Proposed list of special uses to be allowed in the DTV overlay district with a special use permit. Um those that are on the screen that are appearing by red. Um all special uses that's provided in the downtown district, which is the zoning district, bed and breakfast establishments, gasoline. [1:31:02, 1:31:22]: Station, minor automo automotive service, repair, maintenance centers, car washes, convenience stores, and other associated will now require a special use permit. They are already permitted in the zoning district, which is the downtown district, but the overlay district, like I said, sits on top of the overlay district and has some additional restrictions. [1:31:22, 1:31:26]: So multifamily residential buildings would now be allowed. [1:31:26, 1:31:27]: In the downtown. [1:31:28, 1:31:35]: And in the downtown overlay district. This is for to facilitate the development of the three acres that the city owns across from City Hall. [1:31:35, 1:31:55]: Passenger depots and transit shelters, restaurants, takeout establishment, banks, and pharmacies with drive-through facilities, annual window, single family residences, and other special uses. So this is a list of changes that we're proposing that would now require a special use permit by city council. Question. Yes, sir. So while [1:31:55, 1:32:06]: Why w uh I'm I'm I'm curious the single the single family residents, why would that need a special purpose? Why is that why would that be added? Because currently single family residents aren't allowed. [1:32:09, 1:32:18]: They are here. They're grandfathered in, but currently they're not allowed if you want to build a new single family residence in the downtown district. So we want to make that uh permitted use. [1:32:18, 1:32:38]: With a special use permit so that someone could build a single family or single family residences downtown. Yes, sir. In this area. And this yeah, and uh that's why I'm saying we're trying to improve the existing code. So that's why we're gonna go. [1:32:38, 1:32:58]: in the zoning ordinance. So we're we're currently going through the zoning ordinances, uh looking at ways to improve it because the the the document was just adopted by council in 2022. And then when and it wouldn't look good for us to do a total rewrite of the of the code. But the code really is is not uh applicable to a growing city like Stockbridge. It's more [1:32:58, 1:33:03]: in line with an established city. So there's some things in there that really needs to be changed. [1:33:03, 1:33:17]: So l let me ask you a question. So instead of just making it a special use permit, why wouldn't you just put it in the zoning, you know, and then allow it to fli like the rest of the city to be able to prove it through a rezoning? [1:33:17, 1:33:37]: I mean we could add to the uh yeah. See that's why it's a presentation to get your input on the stuff. Right, because I mean I don't want somebody comes with a good special um single family residence for the downtown area. They shouldn't have to come to us to get it approved. They should be able to look at the zoning to ascertain whether that project is appropriate under that particular zone. [1:33:37, 1:33:57]: zoning. Now if they wanted to rezone it to a higher intense use, then probably they would probably need to come to us. But I wouldn't expect every single family neighborhood to have to come to us. But it's also good to have it, I mean not not trying to go against you, but it's also good to um have it as a special use permit because someone might purchase some land downtown in an area. [1:33:57, 1:33:58]: [5639.8, 5645.7]: uh single family residents to go. So that's why it would be good for them to come before council to get the council's blessing on that. [1:34:07, 1:34:27]: It it's it yeah, you're right, it's a ch it's kinda like a uh uh it could go both ways, but in the end so what was the res we've had have we had that situation occur where somebody wanted to bring single family in, they couldn't where that wouldn't be. [1:34:27, 1:34:33]: um build a single family residence on it, but code prohibited it. So that was one instance since I've been here. [1:34:34, 1:34:48]: Okay, so what you're basically saying is that if someone wanted to be a residential on a potential commercial lot They they would have to get a r seek a rezoning and come be come before counsel for a rezoning and for a special use permit. [1:34:49, 1:35:07]: Right, in a certain area, but but that would be that would have to be a commercial use changing to a residential use. But if it was already a residential use that was determined on the map as a residential use, why should they have to come to us for that? And they don't have to do that anywhere else in the city. [1:35:08, 1:35:15]: I mean that's why I'm s that's why we're here to to amend the code, the current code prohibits single family residents in the downtown district. [1:35:15, 1:35:35]: Right, but my my I think it would be a better choice just to have it be if it's a residential lot, it's already residential, to put it to put it put it in the zoning code as residential, you could be able to determine the based on the zoning whether it's appropriate or not, if they wanted to change that residential zoning and then [1:35:35, 1:35:55]: Their district, then they would have to come to it. Yes, I understand what you're saying, but that's that would be uh fairly infrequent because most of the zoning downtown is DT, downtown uh zoning. Uh the DTV is the overlay district that sits on top of the downtown uh zoning district. So most of everything downtown is DT. [1:35:56, 1:35:58]: Yes. Yeah. Go ahead, please. [1:35:59, 1:36:19]: What what are passenger depots and uh like transit shelters? This is like um bus stops or things of that nature. Similar to a bus stop or a place, a centralized place where where a bus could come and pick people up, or where like a Uber drop off station or something like that. Okay. So that's that's some modern [1:36:19, 1:36:39]: On things that um most cities have centralized places for uh pickup. Okay. So I can um I can support that. I do not support letter H giving you discretion to make that decision. Yeah. I don't support that at all. I understand. Considering these are recommendations that you're making to [1:36:39, 1:36:53]: us and these special use permits will have to be presented to the council for us to make a decision. There's no need for letter H. Okay. I understand. Um the other question I had though, and you mentioned it. [1:36:53, 1:37:06]: Um with the restricted uses for tire shops, barbershops, hair salons, nail salons, car washes, is that one of the restricted uses currently? Uh gas. [1:37:06, 1:37:11]: Currently you can have those by permit their permitted uses. Currently you can you can do it by right. [1:37:12, 1:37:13]: So we're [1:37:13, 1:37:15]: We're proposing that they have to come before council. [1:37:16, 1:37:18]: So currently right now [1:37:18, 1:37:23]: If it meets all other standards, they can they can put a gas station, they can put a automobile repair. [1:37:23, 1:37:30]: All that within the downtown village overlay district. Okay, I don't want that. So that's why we're that's why we're proposing to change that. [1:37:30, 1:37:32]: Okay. We don't want that. Yes. [1:37:33, 1:37:34]: We don't want [1:37:35, 1:37:49]: Hair salons, nail salons, bait shops. Well have that car shops. We don't even want car washes in our downtown area. We'll have room for one anyway. Yeah, uh yes, they would have to to come before you to get a special use permit. [1:37:51, 1:37:57]: I don't want to allow that even for them to request a special use permit. [1:37:58, 1:38:01]: None of these particular establishments [1:38:02, 1:38:03]: Will I support? [1:38:03, 1:38:05]: Okay. [1:38:05, 1:38:14]: Um, they request a special use permit and it has to be presented to the council. I'm not gonna support a special use permit. [1:38:14, 1:38:15]: For a tile tar shop. [1:38:16, 1:38:19]: barbershop, hair salon, nail salon, [1:38:19, 1:38:39]: car wash, vape shop, or any other automobile type service repair shop, not in the downtown. Yes, I understand, but currently if they meet the right requirements, they can build one by right. And there's nothing they wouldn't even have to go through zoning. Right now it's uh it's permitted by right. [1:38:39, 1:38:41]: So we're trying to restrict it somewhat. [1:38:41, 1:38:53]: Okay. So that's the that's what we're trying to do. Right now if they find the right piece of land downtown and it meets the the distance requirement and they want to put a a uh automobile repair, they can just go right through zoning. [1:38:54, 1:39:01]: But we're trying to restrict it a little bit, making them r making the developer have to get a special use permit to come to can before council before that could be done. [1:39:02, 1:39:17]: All right, good morning. I don't want I'm not done. If I can finish it. Go ahead, please. Go ahead, finish. Um so I y you mean just like the what is it, the Texaco or is that a Shale gas station or North Henry? Um The Shale? [1:39:17, 1:39:36]: Is that a share? Yeah, that was grandfathered in, yeah. That was grandfathered in, yes. Okay. But see, now we're we're proposing to make those uh you can only have those with a special use permit. But now they're they're permitted by right. If somebody finds the right amount of land and wanna and they're and they meet the distance requirement, they can build a sh a shale gas station in downtown. [1:39:36, 1:39:40]: Okay. I don't want that. I wouldn't support that. Um [1:39:41, 1:40:01]: So let's see. Did you say that um this is just a presentation and you're asking us to vote? No, not a vote tonight. This is just a presentation to get counsel input and feedback on the on the final document. This is just a draft document. So once we take your input, staff is taking notes and we'll go back and touch this. [1:40:01, 1:40:07]: up and then we'll bring it back before you on August eleventh for the final vote. But this is just a presentation. [1:40:07, 1:40:09]: Gotcha. Thank you. All right. [1:40:10, 1:40:11]: Hi, Mr. Azan. [1:40:12, 1:40:32]: Uh you know, I think what I wanna get to is that those uses sh should most of them should already be prohibited under the distance usage. That's why we established them. I mean yes. There's a car minor repair in downtown Stockbridge right now. So they're already grandpa that it that the mileage distance there couldn't be there's [1:40:32, 1:40:52]: Two there now, so there couldn't be another one. Yes, but yeah, if one of them was say for one of'em went out of b went out of business and they wanted to reopen, we w they would have to come back before council get special use permit to right. So it would be a combination of things. I wouldn't want one to go away and then have the other ones. I would certainly want to make sure that those limits [1:40:52, 1:41:12]: were in place that we've already put in place on the vape shops, on the tire shops, all of those limits have distance limits already. I would want those to stay in in place. Yes. In addition to this, I would not want them to replace it or for them to go away. Because uh but we need to make sure that we're enforcing them. Yes [1:41:12, 1:41:32]: also important to understand that along Northern Boulevard, as you see the PMU, the plan uh the the PMU designation, uh, or the overlay or the parkway ordinance is is really um I'm not sure how the shell got grandfather then under that. I was trying [1:41:31, 1:41:42]: figure that out myself. They were they were approved under the previous director and um and they kept renewing their uh business I mean their uh LDP. [1:41:43, 1:41:49]: So they w they were approved way back when we before we adopted the highway over. Yeah, before March twenty twenty two. [1:41:49, 1:42:00]: Before we adopted the new UDC with the parkway mixed use overlay dishes. Well, we we adopted the part the original highway corridor plan in like twenty seventeen. But it was permi it was permitted on the under that one. [1:42:01, 1:42:21]: Okay, so I just um all of those restrictions and the overlays work very well in combination with what we're trying to do to move the city in a different direction to establish a higher quality of businesses and to make sure that we're not saturated with unwanted businesses and repeat businesses, you know. [1:42:21, 1:42:41]: certainly uh those distance limits as we're trying uh you know someone wanted to bring forward another uh a use uh I'm not gonna say that uh in terms of on on North Henry Boulevard we already have seven of them. They wanted to have another one and they wanted to s because they w because uh technically they wanted to appeal it but I certainly [1:42:41, 1:43:01]: What is going to support that? Because in the end, we why would we set the limit? And then every time somebody came to us, we wanted to override it and then say, okay, since it's somebody I know or somebody a friend of mine, then okay, well, let's open up number seven, but we won't do it for everybody. So that's not something that I want to see done. And I want to make sure that we're going to be able to do [1:43:01, 1:43:21]: We're doing this and that we're staying in line with the the the restricted usage, which there's a list of restrictions that are by designation uh by distance and uh car wash, we set a car wash restriction on the on limit, we set a um a limit on and [1:43:21, 1:43:39]: And then though there was supposed to be one coming back to us on storage facilities. Yes. I don't recall that one coming back to us. I mean we got a list of text amendments we're working on. So we'll we'll be coming back. So we're just knocking them down as as the zoning season slow up a little bit. [1:43:39, 1:43:41]: Yeah, go ahead please. [1:43:42, 1:43:47]: Ma'am. Are you gonna provide us with a map because there's not a downtown village overlay? [1:43:49, 1:43:55]: Okay, yeah, I will provide you one in the final in the when uh when we re upload. But here's the map right here. [1:43:59, 1:44:00]: Just stand by. [1:44:02, 1:44:04]: You good? Okay. All right. [1:44:04, 1:44:06]: As as we're going on this [1:44:07, 1:44:12]: It may not have been uh but uh but I get it to you. I I I get it to you. All right. [1:44:12, 1:44:32]: As we're going along with this, the one thing that I like to see us do is to work on the sign ordinance in downtown. Yeah, we that's that's on that's because right now uh the signage is very unattractive. And to me, they should be uh there should be individual letters attached to the building. That should be the standard like what we have at the amphitheater. [1:44:32, 1:44:44]: there mm where those are channel those are channel letter, no box signs, everything should be of high quality materials. And it should it should the amphitheater should be the template [1:44:44, 1:44:52]: from where we're trying to go, where we jump across the tracks and say, Okay, this is where we are. Because you know, having a box sign with a l uh with a [1:44:53, 1:45:13]: It it is low quality in every aspect and we need to update that. Yeah, so s staff is currently working on a um RFP to update the UDC, not to do a major rewrite, but to do a um an update. So we have X amount of dollars set aside for that. So we'll be coming after we select the vendor to do that, we'll we should be coming back um [1:45:13, 1:45:18]: before uh council, probably around October to get council to approve, whoever we select. [1:45:19, 1:45:32]: Okay, and as we move along with the wayfinding and the br and the branding uh for the city. Now I love the new signs that we chose, the ones that are going in downtown. I would like to see [1:45:33, 1:45:41]: on one that are going in downtown, but they're gonna go all over the city. I would like that to be a requirement that everybody, that e every new sign, [1:45:41, 1:46:01]: carry the branding, carry the when the new neighborhoods are created, that they would have similar signage and that that would be a staple. And when you go anywhere throughout Stockbridge, that that signage would be would match up with what we're trying to do with the new signage, the new parking signage, the new directional signage. Yes sir. I I agree, yeah. Okay. [1:46:01, 1:46:17]: To to make that happen then what we would have to do an amendment on that to make that happen? Uh no, uh actually uh in the RFP we're working on, we're uh we're um requiring the consultant to update our sign ordinance. So we'll take that input and pass it along and get it in that rewrite. [1:46:18, 1:46:23]: Okay. So we'll definitely get we got a we have a list of all the things that we need to correct with the UDC. So we will do that. [1:46:26, 1:46:46]: Okay. And you have no other comments, sir. Okay. So that's the end of that one. Okay, so we'll go on to the next one. Text amendment uh TX two zero two five-zero two citywide. First reading council consideration of text amendment for personal care homes to replace sections three point two point two eight and three point two point two nine in chapter three of the stop region. [1:46:46, 1:47:06]: Unified Development Code UDC to create a new section to combine, revise, and augment the provisions, standards, licensing, regulation, and oversight for personal care homes. To amend Chapter 9.70 within Title IX of Stockbridge Code of Ordinances, to add a new section which allows for the pre provisions, standards, licensing, [1:47:06, 1:47:26]: Regulation oversight of the personal care homes as are distinguished from daycare centers, family daycare centers, and group daycare center homes within the city of Stockbridge to establish supplemental use of standards of personal care homes for one to six unrelated adults to identify zoning districts which such uses are permitted. [1:47:26, 1:47:41]: permitted by a special use permit to establish compliance operational and developmental standards to amend the home occupation section and for other purposes. Currently the city of Stockbridge has no mechanism for licensing and regulating personal care homes. Please, Mr. Anderson. [1:47:41, 1:48:01]: Yes, uh Merriam, I'm gonna summarize this just for sake of time. Sure. Um the Business License Department in the community and business license division within the community development department is governed by two documents: the Unified Development Code and the City Code of Ordinances. The Unified Development Code, which was adopted in March 2022. [1:48:01, 1:48:03]: P allows for personal care homes. [1:48:04, 1:48:24]: With a special use permit. However, the City Code of Ordinances doesn't allow us to issue a business license for that. So I worked in a lot of different municipalities, and every municipality I worked in do allow personal care homes with with a special use permit and with distance. [1:48:24, 1:48:44]: requirements and et cetera. So what we've done, what staff done, we crafted some regular some standards and regulations to go along with what the UDC says, and we need councils to basically remove the conflict that does not allow the business license division to issue [1:48:44, 1:48:48]: um occupational tax license for a um a personal care home. [1:48:48, 1:49:08]: Okay. Thank you. Go ahead, sir. Let me say this. I I'm certainly supportive of doing what I saw um at uh the New Well where we were, uh over on Rock Quarry. That certainly was a commercial building, but I'm not in support of putting these in residential areas. And certainly we had we were [1:49:08, 1:49:19]: we're going to be able to put um a requ we had re approved a map in the areas that we wanted these uh facilities to go. I'm not trying to lower the barrier. [1:49:19, 1:49:39]: To allow something that we don't want and the residents don't want. Okay. So the idea, what I would like to see, if you ask me, is to be able to put something together where we have certain areas like again, the uh the the New Well was in a right area. It was right there. It took over a commercial business. They were able to [1:49:39, 1:49:59]: to get up and run and they're performing a magnificent service. Right now they have thirty thirty four, thirty four thirty thirty four and they have openings for another fifteen or sixteen improved transportation. That's the appropriate approach that I would like to see. So councilmember Alexander, that's that's not in question right now. The um [1:49:59, 1:50:19]: The UDC already provides and restricts where these personal care homes can go. So it's already, it was the UDC was adopted by council in March 2022. So by law, we have to allow these, but the city code of ordinance does not allow us to issue a business license. [1:50:19, 1:50:39]: I know that it's already approved. Well, I I understand that. I'm not trying to change the rules to make it easier for an applicant to put one in a residential area because we don't we can deal with that in that way. That's not what I'm trying to do. I'm sorry. That's not what I'm trying to do. Okay. So we have um it it won't [1:50:39, 1:50:42]: [6645.1, 6655.1]: on an area that is citizen primarily commercial and or mixed use or something like that. But in an established elemental neighborhood, we got [1:50:55, 1:51:03]: Let me let me go through uh the um the regulations for you. Maybe you you'll feel a little bit com more comfortable. They have to have two acres of land. [1:51:07, 1:51:27]: Uh personal care home, uh we define as a residential facility providing assistance to individuals who need help with daily activities but who do not require the level of medical care found in nursing homes. Personal care homes are per are provided to no more than six nonfamily adults. Personal care service include but are not limited to individual assistance. [1:51:27, 1:51:28]: [6688.5, 6704.1]: or supervision, self-administered medication, and essential activities of daily living such as eating, bathing, grooming, dressing, and toileting. A personal care home may not provide nursing or other medical services or admit and retain residents who need continuous medical or nursing care. [1:51:46, 1:51:55]: Each personal care home must have an administrator who's responsible on a 24-hour day basis, seven days a week, 365 days a year, and must live on site. [1:51:58, 1:52:00]: Code of ordinances Section nine point [1:52:02, 1:52:22]: The applicable city codes of ordinances regulating. Section 9.70.020 of the Stockbridge Munich Code, which is part of Title IX for licensing regulations, provide definitions for daycare centers, family care centers, and group daycare homes, but not specifically for personal care homes. That's why we can't issue the license. [1:52:22, 1:52:42]: even though zoning they you can get zoning approval with a special use permit, but we we don't have the authority to issue a business license. This should have been um worked out when the code was when um the zoning code was first uh the drafted the um the consultant should have gone and looked at the city code of ordinances [1:52:42, 1:52:47]: and contrasted that contrasted that with what they were doing. But there were a lot of conflicts [1:52:50, 1:52:58]: So uh here's the table right now uh for um that's already allowed in the city of Stockbridge right now for personal care homes. [1:53:00, 1:53:01]: It can be an R R [1:53:01, 1:53:16]: with a special use permit. Suburban residential with a with a special use permit. Center center uh central city residential with a special use permit. MFR with a special use permit. OI with a special use permit. [1:53:19, 1:53:25]: Uh I'm sorry, I'm uh minimum site area they must have I said two acres, they must have one acre. [1:53:27, 1:53:47]: One acre of land must meet the zoning setback requirements. Must be a single family home, freestanding structure, or within a religious facility. It can be one to six unrelated adults, 24-hour supervision, two parking spaces plus one ADA space per non-resident. No parking shall be allowed in the front. [1:53:47, 1:53:52]: front yard setback. A six foot privacy fence shall be installed around the perimeter and sides of the house. [1:53:53, 1:54:13]: And must have minimum square footage of 2,250 square feet. The exterior appearance of any residential structure for which a personal care home is approved shall be maintained as a residential and no sign shall be erected. Central HVAC system in good working condition. Facility must include accessible features as ramp, grab, [1:54:13, 1:54:21]: Bars and clear path to travel in accordance with ADA. And flock cameras must be installed with 363 coverage around the structure. [1:54:24, 1:54:38]: These are the other standards and um w we're considered a it is a as a regulated business in the city of Stockbridge and they w must pay an annual fifteen hundred dollar fee. Uh they have to have a security plan, uh other security measure measures [1:54:40, 1:54:40]: Um [1:54:42, 1:54:45]: So but like I I I previously mentioned, um [1:54:49, 1:55:09]: Currently, the city already allows for personal care homes within the city as part of the unified development code. The only issue here is a conflict within the city code of ordinances that prohibits us from issuing a bit a business license for that. But I was advised that. [1:55:09, 1:55:29]: But usually you go with the the last adopted code, which would be uh the UDC. So the UDC was adopted in 2022, which make it's it's the prevailing uh document. It takes precedence over the city code of ordinances. But we wanted to bring this to council. We didn't just didn't want to make that decision. [1:55:29, 1:55:34]: So I'm finished with my presentation. [1:55:34, 1:55:35]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [1:55:36, 1:55:43]: I know that personal care homes um is something that we we needed in my district. [1:55:43, 1:55:59]: Mm. You are aware of the situation with a homeowner. I've been gonna lie. Who's been waiting for this council to adopt some type of ordinance so that she can move forward with her personal care home. Uh it's been over a year. Or close to. [1:56:00, 1:56:20]: And year. I want to get this matter resolved as quickly as possible. There are state laws that govern this. Yeah, there are the fact that the city didn't have the ordinances in place to allow for it. Ma'am, we we didn't have we didn't have the regulations in place, but we had the the the the the right, you could have a right to open up a personal care [1:56:20, 1:56:36]: It's a business license that you couldn't issue. Could not issue a business license. So we want to resolve that conflict. I mean every every community in the state of Georgia allows for personal care homes. So I've been getting a lot of calls from uh the state, state, our local delegation. Um [1:56:37, 1:56:42]: So they've they've been doing a lot of complaining, uh Yes, we need to get this get this done. [1:56:42, 1:57:02]: resolved as quickly as possible. I do want to ask though about a distance requirement. Yes, there's a distance requirement. What do you think? It's currently most places have you can't have one fifteen hundred feet within each other, but we'll I'll even go up to our standard forty five hundred feet. I'll change it to forty five hundred feet, but usually it's fifteen hundred feet apart. [1:57:02, 1:57:22]: That's what most municipalities have. Okay. So but thank you. Yeah, but it's it's state law. We can't w so we just got to resolve the conflict. And uh I think we have some pretty stringent criteria. Um uh you can't you wouldn't be able to tell if if if one person is living there because they won't have any signage, it'll look just like a regular home. [1:57:22, 1:57:42]: So um yes, sir. Oh I I'm sorry, mayor had to recognize it. No, no, no. The only issue with the business license is that it was omitted from the list of the other types of homes and that this particular one, so it's literally just like a a snap food. Yeah, a scribbler's like a scribner's error. But um [1:57:42, 1:58:02]: So it just needs to be added to that one section. I mean all other city documents provide for personal care homes. Uh so but we took advantage of this to tighten up the standards um for requiring flock cameras and security, um making it have to be at least one acre in um and one allowment in a [1:58:02, 1:58:22]: a traditional subdivision, an existing subdivision. Are the standards the same whether it's personal care, uh and the other types that w that w that are approved for business like uh no because uh not exactly because you can't have uh a daycare with a couple of kids in your house in a existing uh yeah [1:58:22, 1:58:33]: subdivision. So but we we restricted this um as best we could to still comply with state law. I but um it's something we we won't have a choice but to do. [1:58:35, 1:58:36]: Okay, thank you. All right. [1:58:37, 1:58:45]: I didn't really quit Mayor Four. When are you gonna bring this back to us as a final On the eleven. On the eleven it'll be a public hearing. [1:58:46, 1:58:46]: Thank you. [1:58:48, 1:58:55]: Okay. But I I was just trying to get council input on any proposed changes, but this is something we we we have to do. So it's [1:58:56, 1:58:57]: Please uh I just uh one [1:58:57, 1:58:59]: Okay. [1:58:59, 1:59:19]: I understand where we are and uh those uses would be to me would be in in certain areas to be mandated and and and allowed. Certainly we would allow them in the community. We would allow them in the community, but not in in in every in [1:59:19, 1:59:20]: In [1:59:22, 1:59:42]: Certain in resid in certain residential districts where we would we would not allow it, whether that was what if that's permissible, that we would have certain areas where we would identify this is the place in the city where we would want to place this. Yes, sir. Because there's no way around it. This is putting a resid this is putting a commercial business into a residential business. [1:59:41, 2:00:01]: Neighborhood. There's no way around it. You can paint it pink if you want to, but it's still a commercial business being put next door to someone who lives there. However, we want to couch it. It is a commercial business next door to me. And that neighbor is going to have a commercial business next door to [2:00:01, 2:00:21]: them. Now the fifteen hundred square feet is for if somebody wants to build another one. Yeah, but we go but literally the person who owns this business next door to them on both sides of them, it could be resid it could be residents that own their home. But they can't you can't put it in a subdivision and you have to have at least one acre of land. It can't go into like [2:00:21, 2:00:30]: Your your subdivision. I'm just using you as an example. They couldn't put a personal care home in your subdivision. Right. They can only it has to be a an existing house. [2:00:31, 2:00:36]: U a an existing uh detached single family detached on at least a acre of land. [2:00:36, 2:00:42]: So what what is that what it what w what what is was that fit it with a current application that we have? [2:00:42, 2:01:02]: Uh yeah, that current application does meet that. It's not in a subdivision. And uh it's they have more than an acre of land. So this neighborhood, we're doing all of this for to comply with the one that was uh was submitted to us? No, not not necessarily to Council Member Malaysia. We're doing this to comply with state law. So it it must have been a script. [2:01:02, 2:01:22]: criminals error or something in the city code of ordinances that that did not uh address personal care homes to allow us to issue issue a business license. But it's everywhere else in our other city documents. But we decided to bring it to council to get council approval and they still would need to come before council to get a special use permit. [2:01:22, 2:01:33]: to even get a personal care home license. They couldn't just say I I found the a a house with an acre of land, I'ma open up a personal care home. They still have to come get counselors blessing on that. See as someone who [2:01:34, 2:01:54]: Deals with this on a regular basis when you sign a contract and you buy a pearl property and then you go back and say, okay, let me get the zoning for it. Shouldn't work that way. This zoning should have came first. Yeah. Should have came first before you signed the contract, before you uh went down that line and secured the expenses and encouraged. [2:01:54, 2:02:14]: covering those expenses, that's where the services of a really good realtor comes in at where they advise you to go get the zoning first. Yeah. So we encourage all our uh customers to do the due diligence before we ask them to apply for a zoning verification before they sign any contracts or purchase any land. And sometimes we run into that situation where they buy [2:02:14, 2:02:34]: I run into it all the time where somebody has signed a contract, they have committed to leasing a property, they come to the city, then they call me and say, you know, I need you to bail me out. Uh I signed this lease for two years, the landlord won't their money, and we're in a situation where we got to I'm sorry, I can't help you at this point. [2:02:34, 2:02:37]: Law is the law. And that's why we are. Yeah. [2:02:39, 2:02:40]: Yes, ma'am, go away, please. [2:02:41, 2:02:46]: So there is a unique situation in my district. [2:02:46, 2:02:50]: My district is a district with the large largest amount of [2:02:51, 2:02:52]: Newly annexed. [2:02:52, 2:02:54]: residents as of twenty twenty three. [2:02:55, 2:02:56]: Well [2:02:56, 2:02:58]: There was already a homeowner. [2:02:59, 2:03:01]: Who purchased a home? [2:03:01, 2:03:03]: prior to the annexation. [2:03:03, 2:03:06]: Форві сол перпис. [2:03:06, 2:03:11]: of establishing a personal care home. Yes. So when the annexation happened [2:03:13, 2:03:18]: She got caught up in this situation. Yeah. So it's been since twenty twenty three. [2:03:19, 2:03:39]: Which is why I'm urging this council and staff, we need to expedite this. Make it right. We've been working on it. I wanna I wanna know, and I'll talk to you offline about it, what the status of the business license for that homeowner who has been persistent in getting this rectified. [2:03:39, 2:03:59]: I wanna know the status of that. I can tell you probably not here. Okay. Oh but I can tell you now. Um once we come back on the eleventh and this get adopted, her her case is on the agenda after this. And then we'll see. Yes, it will be on the agenda on the eleventh. And then [2:03:58, 2:04:02]: If it's approved through a special use permit, she can get a business license. [2:04:03, 2:04:07]: She still had to get a a special use permit approval from council to open up a personal care home. [2:04:08, 2:04:18]: Can you please make sure that request for a special use permit is also added to the agenda? Yes, ma'am. But I think the council approves this. Thank you. All right. It's on there. [2:04:21, 2:04:41]: All right, no other questions, we'll move on. City of Stockbridge Short-Term Work Program, Capital Improvement Element, STWPCIE for 2026 to 2030, citywide council consideration to improve. I mean to sign the letter of transmit to the city of Stockbridge twenty uh twenty twenty-six. [2:04:41, 2:04:50]: A 2030 STWP CIE Short-Term Work Program Capital Improvement Element to the Latin Regional Commission ARC. [2:04:50, 2:05:10]: Uh Ms. Anderson, please. Okay, the the the intent tonight is to do a pr a draft a presentation of the draft to uh city council and also to get a vote on allowing the mayor to transmit the document to uh the ARC. We won't have the final document until the results of the city audit is is complete. [2:05:10, 2:05:21]: expect that by the end of the week. But so we won't jeopardize our QLG standing. We decided to to bring this um to council tonight so we can mail it off um first of next week. [2:05:23, 2:05:26]: So this is our draft capital improvement plan. [2:05:29, 2:05:35]: Here's the uh the letter that Mayor Ford will sign after tonight, uh if council grants approval. [2:05:37, 2:05:41]: Here's the resolution right here that will be signed. [2:05:41, 2:05:44]: And submitted along with the transmitter of the letter. [2:05:45, 2:05:52]: Here's a list of the infrastructure projects that are in the short-term work program. Um [2:05:54, 2:06:00]: So we identified a total of twenty-two twenty-two million nine hundred and five thousand dollars. [2:06:00, 2:06:04]: and total infrastructure needs that we will be working towards for the next five years. [2:06:06, 2:06:13]: We've identified one point eight million dollars in economic development capital and improvement projects. [2:06:24, 2:06:26]: Thanks that we're gonna say. [2:06:29, 2:06:36]: Uh planning and development uh land use we've identified a million dollars worth of capital improvement needs. [2:06:40, 2:06:43]: Transportation including road construction and [2:06:44, 2:06:50]: Other right-of-way acquisition, we've identified fifteen point five million dollars in need. [2:06:50, 2:07:10]: Municipal building, we've identified fifty-four million dollars in municipal building projects. That's pretty high because um we have a cultural arts center and a multi-purpose facility. So we'll be aiming to make bring those two projects into fruition within the next five years. And we will be building public work. [2:07:10, 2:07:17]: Works we'll be building a maintenance shop. And we've identified$2.5 million in uh public work vehicles and equipments. [2:07:19, 2:07:26]: And additional infrastructure projects, we've identified thirteen point seven million dollars. This includes water, sewer, stormway. [2:07:26, 2:07:28]: The way finding, including a digital sign. [2:07:29, 2:07:31]: The downtown utility relocation. [2:07:31, 2:07:37]: The Alloway project and the downtown lightning project, we identify four million dollars. Uh [2:07:41, 2:07:46]: And park improvements, we've identified six million dollars in needs. [2:07:49, 2:07:52]: Sidewalks we've identified thirteen million dollars in need. [2:08:01, 2:08:02]: So in all [2:08:03, 2:08:05]: We've identified over um [2:08:09, 2:08:16]: Well hold on, let me go back to the list of completed projects. This is the list of completed projects that we've completed over the the past years. [2:08:21, 2:08:23]: I think altogether w we have like [2:08:24, 2:08:30]: Eighty nine million worth of capital improvement needs that we've identified for the city. [2:08:33, 2:08:35]: So that's that's in there. [2:08:46, 2:08:48]: Okay. [2:08:52, 2:08:53]: Any questions, Council? [2:08:55, 2:08:56]: Yes, sir. [2:08:56, 2:09:16]: I think the city has made some changes. I think we prioritized the recreation center, which we have ten million dollars uh in Sploss in order to um bring that pro and uh and and we we unanimously agreed that was the top priority project for the city. So certainly [2:09:16, 2:09:36]: that is something that the council has indicated and put skin in the game that we wanted to happen first and we're looking to identify funding for that. I think um, you know, certainly that large number that stands out, the$34 million for the Cultural Arts Center has moved down the list. [2:09:36, 2:09:56]: probably uh is it even feasible at this point would probably be something that we would need to um uh evaluate currently it's on there and I know you gotta uh go ahead and get the list approved but the public should know where the sentiment uh the general sentiment of the council is to make that probably [2:09:56, 2:10:02]: project the recreation center um come to fruition and uh [2:10:04, 2:10:05]: In the show. [2:10:05, 2:10:25]: Would you like to remove it, Councilman Melazan? Would you like to remove the cultural oxygen? No, no, I don't think we're gonna do that at this point. I just think we're gonna go ahead and transmit it as is. I think that's the direction that we're leaning in. I think the Multicultural Senior Center, the the the cost estimate is gonna have is is not even close. I think that's [2:10:25, 2:10:35]: That one was a around thirty million dollars. We have ten million dollars in splots allocated to it, but the correct number for the estimate for the building was around thirty million dollars. [2:10:36, 2:10:41]: For the multi purpose? Yes. Okay, so we can go, get the notes on there. [2:10:44, 2:10:45]: So that won't be thirty million. [2:10:48, 2:10:50]: Okay. We'll we'll update that. [2:10:51, 2:10:52]: Any other questions this side? [2:10:57, 2:11:03]: So if you update that then otherwise you just need to vote in reverence to transmit. Okay. [2:11:07, 2:11:27]: All right, so is there a uh a vote to uh go forward with the so we transmit this and sign off on this? This is this is clarification, this is to maintain our qualified local government status which would be at risk should we not move forward with Yes sir. If we're late they'll suspend us. So we're trying to get moving on. It's a mandate s so move. Is there a second? [2:11:27, 2:11:47]: Mr. Berry, second at all in favor? Is it okay? She now said okay. We got three votes. We will come back uh with the final draft um and with within 30 days. Um after after we send this to ARC and they make their their uh recommendations, then we'll change and update it, and then we'll have to have a public hearing on it. So but right now we just [2:11:47, 2:11:47]: Yeah. [2:11:48, 2:12:08]: Uh seek seek got permission to send the the draft information off to the ARC. Okay, so the the okay the letter and and the uh resolution needs to be signed with the next day or so to go off to then transmit to you. Yes, sir. I have to wait till finance give me the updated uh financials, the audited information. Okay. So uh Mr. Malazzi said that should be r uh ready by um [2:12:08, 2:12:11]: Friday, so we'll have this in the mail by um Monday. [2:12:11, 2:12:14]: All right. So be it. Thank you. Okay. [2:12:15, 2:12:23]: Okay, council's consideration to approve a forfeited uh vehicle for our fleet in order to enhance police operations. Assistant Chief Godfrey, please. [2:12:28, 2:12:48]: Mayor Council, good evening. Good evening. So before you is a request from the police department uh for council to acknowledge receipt of an approved uh vehicle to be added uh to the police fleet. This is a forfeited vehicle awarded to the city by Henry County Superior Court. Uh our intent is, if approved, is to add this to our fleet to be [2:12:48, 2:12:50]: used for covert police operations. [2:12:51, 2:12:53]: Okay. Any questions, uh council? [2:12:56, 2:12:57]: No, I'll make a motion, sir. [2:12:58, 2:12:59]: All right, you make a motion? [2:13:00, 2:13:13]: I motion to approve the forfeited vehicle to our fleet in order to enhance police operations. To a second. Second. Mr. I would like to understand for the public purview so everybody understands what is the vehicle. [2:13:14, 2:13:21]: Sir, we can't read the the description of the vehicle into public record because of its intent intended purpose of police operations. [2:13:21, 2:13:27]: Okay, so it can't it can't be made public. Correct. So we need to talk about it in an executive session or something? [2:13:28, 2:13:47]: I don't I would I would think that this probably not exactly such an issue. I don't know, I'm just saying. I I don't know. How would we know what it was? Well it's it's a I don't wanna hunt I don't wanna hunt i i and in in all fairness I I trust you guys, but at the same time we don't want tactical weapons like some cities are doing well on the street. Yes sir, this is this is a passenger vehicle. Okay. [2:13:47, 2:13:53]: Okay, I I would think that uh we don't need to know that either. From Miss uh Barber to Mr. Barr, all in favor, please indicate. [2:13:54, 2:14:14]: Okay, speaking of decisions. Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Assistant chief. Uh council consideration to approve an emergency procurement exception in increasing the Stockbridge Police Department FY 2025 spending authority with legacy forward to the amount not to exceed$95,000. This authorization is necessary to cover$22,955. [2:14:14, 2:14:26]: And$21,000 in the projected vehicle maintenance costs for the next sixty days. My competitive request for proposal RFP is finalized. Chief Travel, please. [2:14:26, 2:14:41]: Uh good evening, Mayor and uh members of the council. Uh as you're aware, Mayor Ford, in your capacity as the acting city manager, we had presented a memo to you as per the city ordinance to request an emergency exception to the procurement code to authorize the um [2:14:41, 2:15:01]: Continued maintenance of our police fleet. Uh currently, as you all know, our procurement code uh caps fifty thousand dollars before we have to go out to competitively bid something. We've been working with Legacy Ford. We found them to be a reliable uh vendor for vehicle maintenance, and uh we chose them because they have a quick lane service that enables our officers to get the vehicles back in service in a timely manner. [2:15:01, 2:15:21]: Manner and to get back out on the streets. We've been working with Legacy Ford since our inception. We've had great success with them. And over the first two years of operation, we did not exceed that threshold that would require us to go out for a competitive bid with this particular vendor. As our fleet is aging in its third year now, we've realized that the vehicle maintenance costs are increasing. [2:15:21, 2:15:41]: And they're expected to double this year from what they have been historically in past years. When we realized that we were trending to go over that$50,000 threshold, we reached out to procurement in May to discuss in RFP or how we would approach this situation to make sure that we're in compliance with the city's current ordinances. [2:15:41, 2:16:01]: Unfortunately, the procurement manager that we're working with is no longer with the city at this point in time. We've since been working with Mr. Malazzi and um his uh team to uh and our procurement attorney, Mr. Berry, um to uh move forward with this emergency exception. Uh as we were waiting for this process to move forward. [2:16:01, 2:16:21]: Um, of course, the vehicles needed to continue to be maintenance. Uh, we couldn't stop that service, and we've since acquired twenty-two thousand nine hundred and fifty-five dollars in invoice over that period of time from May until present, while our vehicles have been maintenance. We anticipate over the next 60 days that we'll spend about$21,000 in vehicle maintenance. We're averaging about$10,500 a month in vehicle maintenance. [2:16:21, 2:16:41]: And so we're asking for uh the council to approve a temporary accession, uh a temporary increase in our spending authority not to exceed$95,000 with legacy Ford. This will allow us to cover the costs and outstanding invoices and uh projected upcoming vehicle maintenance over the next 60 days while we [2:16:41, 2:16:59]: We finalize a competitive RFP process of which we are working with uh procurement. And um Assistant Chief Godfrey has been working directly with him. So if you have any questions specifically related to that uh process, I'm sure that he'd be able to answer those questions. If there's any questions I can answer for you, I certainly stand ready to answer those questions. [2:16:59, 2:17:06]: All right. Go ahead, Mr. Berry. Chief, you said this. This is for uh only for sixty days and up to ninety five thousand. [2:17:06, 2:17:07]: Yes, sir. [2:17:07, 2:17:11]: And then after n after the sixty days you gonna put a competitive [2:17:11, 2:17:25]: We're in the process of doing that now. It's our hope that in the next sixty days that that will be put out and we will be able to identify a permanent solution for a vehicle maintenance provider that has been competitively bid through the city. [2:17:25, 2:17:29]: And Mr. Malazi is uh on board with his recommendation. [2:17:30, 2:17:35]: Um you I don't want to speak for Mr. Melazi, but we've had conversations. [2:17:40, 2:17:41]: Sure. [2:17:42, 2:17:49]: Mr. Malazi, um just wanna follow up, making sure that this is something that you vetted and and approved for us to do. [2:17:49, 2:18:09]: Yeah, we have worked together with that as you know that we are planning to have in house fleet management uh through public works shop that is being built, but that may not be until maybe early next year. Uh but between then and now, between now and then we need to find somewhere. [2:18:09, 2:18:28]: Else we can. And the the threshold is 50,000 for our municipal uh limit, but we don't want to go again above this state limit, which is 100,000. That's why Chief has given uh 95. And the [2:18:28, 2:18:48]: We will have some the sixty days they have talking about we are looking other areas so that we don't max up thirty ninety five. And this is not only for PD, but it will be for citywide vehicles, public works. Yeah, so that it's not public works, it's not for the um administrative, but it will be [2:18:48, 2:18:49]: Citywide. [2:18:50, 2:18:53]: Yes, so this one we have discussed collectively. [2:18:53, 2:18:55]: The same legacy. Yes. [2:18:56, 2:18:56]: Mm-hmm. [2:18:57, 2:18:58]: Any other questions? [2:18:59, 2:19:00]: If you know the question, I need a motion. [2:19:04, 2:19:05]: Therefore. [2:19:05, 2:19:08]: I like to make sure. Your mic's not on, sir, I don't think. [2:19:09, 2:19:29]: Man, for I like to make a motion to um allow the sixty day uh extension as well as the increase in spending to ninety five thousand for not just the P D, but for the entire fleet management uh for the city of Stockbridge for a period of sixty days until it can uh go through the process of competitive bid. [2:19:29, 2:19:33]: Is there a second to motion? Okay, second by Miss Barber. All in favor, please indicate. [2:19:34, 2:19:37]: Okay, z three examined subcision. Thank you very much. [2:19:50, 2:20:01]: Yes, I have the sixty day extension and up to the ninety five thousand dollars. Sixty days and up to ninety five thousand dollars. [2:20:02, 2:20:07]: Oh just the not to exceed. Yes, that's hitting there. Not to exceed. That's part of it. Yes. [2:20:09, 2:20:29]: Announcements and upcoming meetings and events. Uh council meeting will be held in City Council Chamber meeting dates, location times a subject to change, or contact city hall offices at seven seven zero three eight nine seventy nine hundred or visit the website at www.stopbridgega.org for updates. U council meeting is Monday, August fourth at six thirty. [2:20:29, 2:20:49]: P.M. City Hall Levi Room. Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting held or held on the first Thursday of each month in Stockbridge PD Community Room at uh 6:30 p.m. on August 7th. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting will be held on the second Friday of each month at the Downtown Connection Center, 1:30 ML King Senior Heritage. [2:20:49, 2:21:09]: The first Millage Rate public hearing uh previously set for Monday, August fourth, has now been rescheduled for Monday, August eleventh at ten A.M. And a second Millage Rate uh public hearing will take place on um August the uh eleventh at six thirty PM. [2:21:09, 2:21:29]: City Hall Council Chambers. The City Council meeting held held on the second Monday of each month. We'll convene at a special time at 7 p.m. following the Millish rate public hearing in the City Hall Council Chambers on August 11th. Citywide Development Authority meeting are held on the second Tuesday of each month unless otherwise noted, and leave our room at 600. [2:21:29, 2:21:36]: 6 p.m. on August 12th to Community Zoning Information Meeting Wednesday, August 13th, in the City Hall Council Chamber, 6 p.m. [2:21:36, 2:21:56]: The third and final Millage Rate public hearing adoption has been rescheduled to take place on Monday, August 18th at 10 a.m. City Council Chambers. Downtown Development Authority meeting is held on the third Tuesday of each month in the Downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, 6 p.m. on August 19th. U Council advisory [2:21:56, 2:22:16]: Committee meeting will be held on the third Tuesday of each month. City Hall Levi Room at 6:30 p.m. on August 19th. The Planning Commission meeting are held on the third Tuesday, excuse me, the third Thursday of each month at City Hall and the City Council Chairman 6:30, August 21st. City Council work session meeting will be held on the last Tuesday of each month at City Hall and the Council Chamber's [2:22:16, 2:22:34]: on August 26th. Upcoming city events initiatives. Join the Main Street for the Tiny Tent Concert Series Fridays from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Stockbridge Connection Center, 130 ML King uh Senior Heritage Trail. Bring your own lawn chairs and they'll do that compl uh depending on the weather itself. [2:22:35, 2:22:55]: Join Mayor Pro Tem Gantt for a free line dance class on Wednesday, July 30th from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Merle Manders Conference Center. Bring your own fan. Boots on the ground there as well, right? Join Councilman Thomas and Councilman Berry for a partnership for the monthly Bingo Bash on Wednesday, August 20th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon. [2:22:55, 2:22:58]: Tomorrow Manor's Conference Center. Lots of fun to be had by all. [2:23:00, 2:23:20]: Join Mayor Anthony Ford for a monthly meeting the mayor Monday, August 25th from ten A.M. to twelve noon, City Hall. Meetings are by appointment. The Economic Development Department has a ho uh will host a free business health clinic on the second Tuesday of each month from nine A.M. to twelve PM at Stockbridge Connection Center, one thirty ML King Heritage Senior. Excuse me. [2:23:19, 2:23:39]: Senior Heritage Trail. Check your health or in your business with a free clinic. Councilman Thomas is honoring veterans and continues to salute all year long. Please send your pictures in veterans with their name, branch, rank, and years of service. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Try a Stockbridge Initiative Center around education, highlighting causes and effects of littering and illegal. [2:23:39, 2:23:59]: Legal dumping. More information following this as well. Sign up for the real-time alerts from severe weather, road closures, emergencies on a regroup app. Visit the city's website or social media pages for more information on how and where to sign up. Stay safe. Municipal election qualifying takes place Monday, August 18th through Friday. [2:23:59, 2:24:03]: August twenty second, from eight thirty to four thirty PM. [2:24:03, 2:24:23]: eight eight thirty a.m to four thirty P. M. Of course they're closed. The clerk clerk's office is closed from uh noon to one. More information is available on the city clerk's department page and the city's website at Stockbridge GA dot org. Wanna mention to you for the next couple of days, so Wednesday and Thursday, we'll have a Merrill Manors will be a site for a cooling center for individuals that are [2:24:23, 2:24:43]: extremely hot during the course of this uh for the next couple days there. And that's open from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. And water, ice, and comfortable seats uh will be available for those individuals that need to come to Merrill Manage during the course of the day to get relief from the heat. Please contact Rosen Rawls to schedule the appointment with meet the mayor and more information on the council initiatives. [2:24:43, 2:25:03]: at 678-833-3348 or my way of email ralls at Stockbridge G.org. Twenty to twenty five concert season schedule, Saturday, August 16th, Stockbridge Jazz Festival hosted by Tommy Davison, featuring David Baumet, Jazz Funk Soul, EFX All-Stars, Chandra [2:25:03, 2:25:23]: Curley, Sonny Emory, Norman Brown, Jennifer Holliday, Karen Briggs, Aaron Darius, and Kiko Masui. This is Saturday, August 16th. Um and individuals that signed up originally have for Sunday, August 17th, you'll be notified about this going to one day, and you'll have an opportunity to be reimbursed for [2:25:23, 2:25:31]: For the Sunday concert, andor utilize that payment for the Sunday concert to join it on Saturday, provided seats are available for you. [2:25:32, 2:25:34]: Uh you'll be notified about that. [2:25:34, 2:25:48]: Saturday, August 30, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis celebrating 40 years of iconic music featuring the former Sisbyer Ruben Stutter, Deborah Cox, MC Light, Jordan Knight, Illino Adams, Shantae Moore, Morris Day, and Jerome Benton, Sherrell, and Ann Nesby. [2:25:48, 2:25:54]: Saturday, September thirteenth, for lovers and friends, featuring Tank and special guest Leaf Jennings and Jenny Wine. [2:25:56, 2:26:16]: Uh Saturday, September 6th, and Sunday, September 7th, the Southern Soul weekend featuring King George, Tucker, Wesla, Pokey Bear, TK Soul, Tawan Moore, Antonio Armente, Armoundi, I guess it's pronounced. And Saturday, the uh 20th of September, do the Reggae Tour Tour 2025 featuring Zaggy Marley and Burr. [2:26:16, 2:26:36]: Burning spears. For my initial comments, of course, back to school. School starts here in Henry County in the 34th public schools on the 31st of July, which is in this week. Obviously, in the next couple days will be awfully hot, so make sure if you're outside, drink water, ice, and uh try to keep stay in the shade if you can, if you're outside as best as possible. [2:26:36, 2:26:48]: Everybody be helpful, healthy, I should say. And then uh council, we have a executive session with legal personnel real estate matters as well as cybersecurity issues. I need a motion to go to executive session, please. [2:26:49, 2:26:51]: Dr. Mr. Bar uh Mr. Barring is a second. [2:26:53, 2:26:54]: Is there a second? [2:26:55, 2:26:58]: Okay. Oh miss I'm sorry, Ms. Barmer, second. All in favor, please indicate. [2:27:00, 2:27:02]: Okay, we're going to second session. Thank you. We'll be back, ladies and gentlemen. [2:27:07, 2:27:08]: All right. [2:27:09, 2:27:14]: Council, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. So move. Is there a second? [2:27:14, 2:27:18]: Second okay, so Miss Berry Mr. Berry to Mr. Alexander, all in favor, please indicate. [2:27:20, 2:27:21]: Yeah. [2:27:22, 2:27:25]: No, I'm I'm no I'm not. I'm [2:27:27, 2:27:28]: I don't know what I'm talking about. [2:27:36, 2:27:37]: I well if [2:27:38, 2:27:41]: Meet meeting adjourned. God bless you all. Good night.