2021-11-30 · City Council · Transcript · Work Session Meeting

--- title: November 30 2021 Work Session Meeting date: 2021-11-30 source: 2021-11-30_November_30_2021_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:05:17, 0:05:18]: B. [0:05:21, 0:05:23]: Good evening. Good evening, everyone. [0:05:23, 0:05:27]: And we are recording on Facebook Live at this time. [0:05:28, 0:05:31]: What town do we have here? Okay. [0:05:33, 0:05:34]: Alrighty, so [0:05:36, 0:05:36]: Yeah. [0:05:41, 0:05:43]: Two million. [0:05:52, 0:05:55]: Here we go. All right. [0:06:02, 0:06:07]: Hello everyone. Good evening. Good evening to you. [0:06:08, 0:06:10]: One, two. [0:06:12, 0:06:13]: Three. [0:06:14, 0:06:15]: Yeah, four. [0:06:17, 0:06:18]: Here we go. All right. [0:06:23, 0:06:36]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have uh six o'clock and uh like to get this uh council work session Tuesday, November 30th. And uh I'll start it on time. And uh so I'd like to call the meeting to order. [0:06:36, 0:06:38]: And Madam Kirk, roll call, please. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Mayor Ford. Mm-hmm. [0:06:49, 0:06:51]: Are you able to hear me, Mayor Ford? [0:06:51, 0:06:51]: Pleasant. [0:06:52, 0:06:54]: May I appro Tim Alexander? [0:06:54, 0:06:56]: President. Councilwoman Barber. [0:06:56, 0:06:57]: President. [0:06:57, 0:06:58]: Councilman Blount. [0:07:01, 0:07:06]: Let the record reflect Councilman Blount is not in attendance. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:07:07, 0:07:08]: Present. [0:07:08, 0:07:10]: And Councilman Thomas. [0:07:10, 0:07:11]: Present. [0:07:11, 0:07:13]: Mayor Ford, you have a forum. [0:07:13, 0:07:14]: Thank you. [0:07:14, 0:07:18]: Okay, please uh I'm gonna do the invocation tonight, so please bow your heads. [0:07:18, 0:07:28]: Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again as we continue to do the city's business. Allow us to make good logical decisions for our movement forward and do the best thing for our citizens. [0:07:28, 0:07:32]: And have a real good dialogue as we continue to [0:07:32, 0:07:35]: do the citizens' business once again as well. [0:07:35, 0:07:38]: Continue to be with us always, Lord, in your name. Amen. [0:07:39, 0:07:43]: Amen. Okay. I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:07:46, 0:08:06]: Well, let me let me put it this, let me say this to you. I'd like to uh entertain an amendment that we uh move our executive session somewhat up into the agenda. Um what it amounts to is that our attorneys uh only have a limited amount of time with us this evening. [0:08:06, 0:08:24]: do some other commitments. So um they uh this is the election night in Atlanta and they have some other commitments in this aspect. So I'd like to entertain a motion that we uh move the agenda after the um old business and before our public hearing on the budget. [0:08:25, 0:08:29]: Well, first of all a question, do do they have something that they need to discuss with us or? [0:08:30, 0:08:40]: Yes, there is something uh discussing with in reference to real estate uh and also a za a Zeka session deals with uh uh any personnel or litigation issues, but primarily this is dealing with real estate. [0:08:41, 0:08:44]: Yeah, this will only it'll only be real estate. Angela. [0:08:44, 0:08:47]: Our real estate attorney is here and um Alan Peterson. [0:08:47, 0:08:48]: I hear. [0:08:49, 0:08:54]: And they wanted to give you all the updates in we have to give you the updates in executive session. [0:08:55, 0:09:02]: Uh so uh so uh so move the mayor like to add an additional uh item to that. Like to uh make a [0:09:03, 0:09:10]: Can we can we at least let let's let's vote on this first? Let's take let's take one at a time. So a motion's been made uh to do that. Is there a second? [0:09:12, 0:09:13]: I think [0:09:13, 0:09:15]: [555.6, 560.2]: Okay, Mr. Mr. Thomas, I believe I got Ms. Thomas' voice. He's second dad. All in favor, please indicate. [0:09:22, 0:09:25]: Okay. All right. So we're gonna put that right behind uh [0:09:26, 0:09:30]: Uh old business and before public hearing. All right, go ahead, sir. Mayor Protestant. [0:09:30, 0:09:37]: Yes, sir. I'd like to add an item to the agenda in reference to speed bumps on Winbrook Drive in the Winslow Eagles Landing subdivision. [0:09:39, 0:09:40]: All right, is there a second to that? [0:09:41, 0:09:42]: I second. [0:09:42, 0:09:44]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:09:45, 0:09:54]: All right, great, fantastic. And how about uh that is uh how about we'll make that uh new that's new business and so we'll make that item number 14. [0:09:57, 0:10:03]: Now I need a motion to uh adopt the entire agenda for this evening, please. So moved. [0:10:04, 0:10:05]: Is there a second? [0:10:07, 0:10:10]: All three, please indicate. Okay. [0:10:10, 0:10:30]: Thank you. All right. Thank you very much. You name this on that. All right. Uh what you have before you, ladies and gentlemen, are the uh draft minutes involving uh the special call meeting on the 20th of September, the council uh meeting on the eleventh of November, excuse me, the excuse me, uh October 11th. [0:10:30, 0:10:36]: Council, the count a special excuse me, the council work session on the 26th of October as well. [0:10:36, 0:10:44]: And we will actually review those. If there are any changes, please let the uh clerk know and we'll vote on those at our next meeting, which is December uh 13th as well. [0:10:45, 0:10:51]: On that note, uh Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? We do have one public comment, Mary. [0:10:51, 0:10:51]: Go ahead. [0:10:51, 0:10:53]: Mr. Robert Kolpeck. [0:10:54, 0:10:57]: two seventy two cotton Indian Creek Road McDonald. [0:10:58, 0:10:58]: Okay. [0:10:59, 0:11:03]: And his comment is regarding noise mitigation. [0:11:04, 0:11:06]: For the residents near the amphitheater. [0:11:06, 0:11:10]: And also checking on the water features near the amphitheater. [0:11:12, 0:11:14]: There are no further comments, Mayor. [0:11:15, 0:11:25]: All right. Um we'll give an update to uh all that here in the next few days and Mr. Kolpeck can make uh some type of uh public statement on those issues as well. [0:11:25, 0:11:28]: Water features and noise mitigation. [0:11:29, 0:11:30]: All right. [0:11:31, 0:11:42]: On that note, uh informational session, uh item number four, Falcon Design Projects Update, Status and Timeline, Mr. Palmer and Adam Price, sir. Gentlemen, please. [0:11:48, 0:12:08]: Hey, thank you. Uh Adam, Skip, and Tyler are here. Uh John had to uh had a family emergency. Sorry he couldn't make it, but I think we can uh update you on a lot of projects. Okay. We've got a PDF uh presentation that's slightly different from the one we sent Vanessa, but it's got all the same information in it just a [0:12:08, 0:12:10]: different order. So uh [0:12:11, 0:12:14]: If I can, I will share my screen. [0:12:14, 0:12:15]: Okay. [0:12:17, 0:12:19]: I think they have to let us [0:12:24, 0:12:28]: I think you could loud on the oh there you go. There you go. All right. All right. [0:12:28, 0:12:30]: Hello, this is Angie Robinson at Parker Poe. [0:12:32, 0:12:37]: Yes, ma'am. Uh Hi. Hello, Council and Mayor Ford. How is it? How is everyone doing? [0:12:37, 0:12:44]: Just fine. Uh ma'am, you you're gonna come up a little later in executive session. Yeah, we're doing executive session a little uh earlier, so that's why I sent you so late now. [0:12:49, 0:12:55]: All right, you guys uh ready? Yeah, yeah, go ahead please. And feel free to [0:12:55, 0:13:15]: Uh ask questions. Uh we're going to go through it uh kind of one by one. Uh give you the high points, give you the updates. Uh first up East Atlanta, Lee Street modifications and intersections. Uh you guys want to roll with that? Well, as you know, these projects are already under contract. The contractor [0:13:15, 0:13:27]: out there on Lee Street right now has done all the utility locates, done their ENS. They're in the process of doing clearing operations right now for the entire area. The uh [0:13:28, 0:13:48]: We have received back uh our received uh Atlanta's approval for the new signals on East Atlanta. We have not received the Lee Street signals yet. Uh according to Tyler, the Thomason office is expecting those back immediate anytime now. Uh [0:13:48, 0:14:08]: You know, last week was Thanksgiving. There was probably a lag, but uh that's where we stand on those. And then the East Atlanta had to be resubmitted back to Thomaston uh for their formal permitting uh now that Atlanta's blessed the project. Uh they did approve the street print, and that is now uh part of that signal. [0:14:08, 0:14:28]: plan. So all of that is moving forward and uh we're just waiting on DOT for the last bit of the permitting. And again, we are I I'm sure your city attorneys are going to talk to you, but we are waiting on right of uh access uh to the properties, easements, et cetera. [0:14:28, 0:14:37]: All along those areas. But the contractor, like I told you, is he's going to concentrate on Lee Street, finish Lee Street, then move over to East Atlanta. [0:14:40, 0:14:45]: Sorry. Would you mind uh increasing the view or zooming into this? [0:14:47, 0:14:48]: Thank you. [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Mm. [0:14:52, 0:15:02]: That's kind of what this is a brief summary of what Skip just went through. Uh the next uh exhibit was uh putting out cell fence on Lee Street. [0:15:03, 0:15:05]: And traffic control also. [0:15:06, 0:15:07]: Uh [0:15:08, 0:15:12]: And that's just a copy of our approved signal plans here. [0:15:12, 0:15:18]: From uh Georgia DOT showing the street print crossings and also the uh [0:15:18, 0:15:25]: The uh black poles that uh I believe we discussed uh some time back, they did approve them. [0:15:27, 0:15:28]: Okay. [0:15:29, 0:15:30]: That's good news. [0:15:31, 0:15:41]: Yeah, but as part of that, we'll there will be a change order that'll come with these projects to handle the street print and to handle the uh pole changes and the signal changes. [0:15:44, 0:15:47]: We'll have to sit with the contractor and get all that worked out. [0:15:51, 0:15:59]: All right. And as our next project's the Lee Street improvements, the parking lot, and the extension of the sidewalk. [0:16:00, 0:16:06]: Uh you know, we we had field visits on the 20th, I guess. You went out there. Correct. [0:16:06, 0:16:11]: Uh concept plan proposed proposed revision was submitted to the city on September twenty-first. [0:16:12, 0:16:18]: Followed up the last week of September, first week of October, waiting on approvals from C to finalize plans. [0:16:18, 0:16:23]: Plans for lease tree park improvements are ongoing, pending final decision from mayor council regarding the additional path. [0:16:24, 0:16:27]: Yeah, you should sketch here's the exhibit. [0:16:28, 0:16:29]: Yeah, you know. [0:16:30, 0:16:39]: Let me zoom out a little bit here. Yeah, if you notice the uh design has changed slightly uh in the parking, no, below. [0:16:40, 0:17:00]: Yeah, here's the Lee Street, the additional parking area. Here's the one. Yeah, initially the parking uh where those hammerheads are was going to go directly into the access to the uh uh roads, but because of topographic issues and traffic, it was determined it was a better flow pattern to get it away from that intersection. So you had three. [0:17:00, 0:17:10]: three different lanes of traffic instead of everybody converging at one. And the one question we we were asked to review, go back up, Adam. [0:17:10, 0:17:23]: That black heavy black line, uh, there was a comment from somebody on the council wanting to put another sidewalk on that side of that access road. And uh [0:17:24, 0:17:40]: Mr. Knighton had asked us to go review that. We did. We uh gave him a cost estimate uh for that work and asked for direction. And we were we're basically waiting on direction on that project right now, but here's the cost estimate for that work. [0:17:41, 0:17:46]: uh to determine if the council does want to put that sidewalk in. [0:17:47, 0:17:48]: All right. [0:17:49, 0:17:54]: All right, council. Any comments on this? Uh we want to go forward with this uh this additional sidewalk. [0:17:55, 0:17:56]: Uh thank Mayor. [0:17:56, 0:17:57]: Go ahead, please. [0:17:58, 0:18:02]: I think we had generally agreed upon that because we wanted the area to go. [0:18:02, 0:18:06]: To be well connected. This is a part of our comprehensive parts. [0:18:06, 0:18:10]: uh connection as well. All of those trails will be connected. [0:18:10, 0:18:11]: Going down uh [0:18:12, 0:18:14]: North Lee Street all the way to Bryant Street. [0:18:15, 0:18:16]: And um [0:18:16, 0:18:18]: It will just be connectivity. [0:18:18, 0:18:24]: And every everything that we wanted uh as part of this project is that we got these trails. [0:18:24, 0:18:25]: Ending. [0:18:25, 0:18:28]: Trails should be continuous at all points. [0:18:28, 0:18:29]: And not in so [0:18:29, 0:18:34]: And I believe uh at that point there was uh even a eighty thousand dollar contingency fund. [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: Still left in the амфітер. [0:18:38, 0:18:40]: uh budget at that point. [0:18:41, 0:18:44]: So do you wish us to proceed with the design on this? [0:18:45, 0:18:46]: Yeah, I certainly do. [0:18:46, 0:18:48]: Uh councillor, any other comments? [0:18:48, 0:18:59]: Yes, I want to know, um, is Mr. Wiggins on the line? I want to know, is this included in the 2021 budget or will we be including this in the 2022 budget? [0:19:02, 0:19:05]: Yeah, so I'm I'm here, Councilman. Um [0:19:06, 0:19:08]: This is this is part of the um [0:19:10, 0:19:11]: That three million. [0:19:12, 0:19:14]: That was slated for um [0:19:15, 0:19:17]: The roads of Atlanta Street. [0:19:18, 0:19:18]: And Lee. [0:19:19, 0:19:24]: So uh we will have to uh take a look at this and see this uh the sidewalk should [0:19:26, 0:19:29]: I just have to check and see. I I'm I don't wanna be uh [0:19:30, 0:19:32]: What three million are you referring to? [0:19:34, 0:19:36]: We had uh three million. [0:19:37, 0:19:41]: That was set up for the road work for the amphitheater. [0:19:42, 0:19:46]: It was um part of the splash four. [0:19:47, 0:19:48]: But you steal in there. [0:19:49, 0:19:55]: Yeah, well let me let me say this. Uh I think the three men was for the inter intersection itself, right there at uh Lee Street and [0:19:55, 0:20:01]: And North Henry's what I thought the three million was for. Uh now I could be mistaken, but that's what I thought. [0:20:02, 0:20:02]: Um [0:20:03, 0:20:08]: Mayor b uh I believe it was part of the entire project, all inclusive. [0:20:11, 0:20:14]: Any other comments? Mayor. Mayor. Go right ahead, please. [0:20:14, 0:20:17]: If the project I've I've before I [0:20:17, 0:20:20]: I mean, I don't definitely don't feel comfortable voting. [0:20:21, 0:20:22]: Until I know. [0:20:22, 0:20:28]: Whether or not we have the money within that three million set aside for the road project for the amphitheater. [0:20:28, 0:20:28]: Um [0:20:29, 0:20:30]: But and then [0:20:30, 0:20:32]: I agree that I think it's where [0:20:33, 0:20:35]: The roads, the East Atlanta and Lee Street. [0:20:36, 0:20:39]: But also my can if it it fits within that. [0:20:39, 0:20:42]: Then I'm I'm certainly okay because money was already [0:20:42, 0:20:44]: set aside and allocate it for it. [0:20:45, 0:20:46]: Um however [0:20:47, 0:20:49]: You know, that does not include. [0:20:50, 0:20:55]: the sound barriers and other discussions that we've talked about for the neighborhood that's directly adjacent. [0:20:56, 0:20:59]: Or uh that's being affected or [0:20:59, 0:21:02]: by the amphitheater. So I do want us to take that into consideration. [0:21:03, 0:21:03]: Um [0:21:04, 0:21:05]: We have other [0:21:05, 0:21:07]: projects and things that we want. [0:21:08, 0:21:08]: Um [0:21:08, 0:21:09]: to consider as well. [0:21:10, 0:21:14]: And I do agree that we do need connectivity with our trails. [0:21:14, 0:21:15]: They don't just stop. [0:21:16, 0:21:16]: They continue. [0:21:17, 0:21:18]: However [0:21:19, 0:21:23]: I don't know what that flow would look like or if that was part of our trail plan to have [0:21:24, 0:21:31]: Sidewalks on both. And as so long as it fits within that three million that was already set aside for that particular area and roads. [0:21:31, 0:21:33]: And I'm I'm great with it. [0:21:33, 0:21:36]: But I think we need to know those answers first. [0:21:37, 0:21:42]: Well they we have Falcon Design on the call. Miss Miss Falcon Design uh [0:21:43, 0:22:03]: Does uh what is the total project cost for these two projects? Is it does it exceed three million or is it uh under over what? Uh yeah, you you would ask me that. I have to go check my numbers uh on what the uh Lee Street East Atlanta projects are on the server. Uh it's in my folders. Hold on. [0:22:03, 0:22:03]: And I'll look. [0:22:06, 0:22:10]: And then in addition to that, we do have a million dollars that we bonded. [0:22:10, 0:22:13]: For uh connectivity and sidewalks. [0:22:14, 0:22:16]: Uh uh in the downtown area. [0:22:20, 0:22:20]: Yeah. [0:22:21, 0:22:27]: Any other comments uh while he's looking out uh why Falcon Design is checking us out. Any other comments from the council? [0:22:28, 0:22:39]: Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. Councilman Thomas. Yeah, go right here, sir. Um, I'm going to agree with everyone as far as what is needed. I would say yes to the need. [0:22:39, 0:22:42]: uh to to enhance the total of Lee Street. [0:22:43, 0:22:47]: But let me confirm I b I believe um this project. [0:22:48, 0:22:53]: came later. I do I do not think it was included uh in that amount because [0:22:54, 0:23:01]: Um, you know, we had sort of talked about the reconfiguration of Lee Street, the traffic light, et cetera, et cetera. [0:23:01, 0:23:04]: Um this project came much later. [0:23:05, 0:23:19]: Um and I think Councilman Blount was the one brought that forward. But I would agree with everyone that it needs to be done. And and if the funds are there, I think we definitely need to do it. Uh and I'm looking at [0:23:19, 0:23:21]: Uh with fact and I see um [0:23:22, 0:23:24]: An estimate on the [0:23:25, 0:23:28]: Lee Street looked like it was ninety two. [0:23:29, 0:23:29]: Um [0:23:30, 0:23:38]: But well, it seemed like you all are back now with with that information. But Mayor, I I'm in agreement that uh this project needs to be enhanced totally. [0:23:38, 0:23:39]: Would Lee Street? [0:23:39, 0:23:47]: Uh we just want to make sure that we can uh financially accommodate uh the total enhancement of [0:23:48, 0:24:07]: There's a minute. Yeah, I hear you. Go ahead, sir. Can somebody tell me what we're looking at? Is that the total cost right there? That's that's the bid cost uh of the the two projects, East Atlanta and Lee Street combined. Yeah, 2.644. And that includes go to the top a built-in contingency as well. [0:24:08, 0:24:09]: Um [0:24:10, 0:24:11]: Of two hundred thousand dollars. [0:24:13, 0:24:13]: Okay. [0:24:14, 0:24:20]: Okay, so the total budget was three million and we have two two six four with a contingency built in. [0:24:21, 0:24:21]: Yes. [0:24:22, 0:24:35]: And just be aware that uh, you know, just the street print alone. We we bid this as an alternate uh because the council had asked for that. Uh and uh yes, it's on there. Go to the bottom. [0:24:36, 0:24:37]: No. [0:24:38, 0:24:46]: I'm going. There you go. Not a big fan, not a big fan of this mouse. Yeah. There's the street print cost. There's your street print costs. Uh [0:24:47, 0:24:56]: uh for the two projects. So it's a hundred um a little over a hundred thousand dollars for both East Atlanta and Lee Street. [0:24:57, 0:24:58]: To do the uh street print. [0:24:59, 0:25:09]: All right. Well I what I saw is I saw a very interesting design. Go back to the rendering. You had like a a circle round a sa around a circle. [0:25:09, 0:25:16]: Uh right there at the um looks like the Lee Street side, there was a bricks, a paved circle there. [0:25:16, 0:25:18]: Is it what I saw? [0:25:20, 0:25:23]: Right at Lee Street in North Henry Boulevard. [0:25:25, 0:25:26]: You want this? [0:25:27, 0:25:35]: Yeah the uh on the approved signal plan that was decent like are are you talking about the approved signal plan? We're talking about this the approves. [0:25:36, 0:25:45]: Yeah there yeah that right there. Yeah that's the East Atlanta intersection. Yeah that's the East Atlanta approval. Okay, that's the East Atlanta one. Okay, and that circle uh is already [0:25:45, 0:25:47]: That's what the plan is right there. [0:25:48, 0:25:48]: Correct. [0:25:49, 0:25:53]: That's beautiful. What so that oh wow. Okay, man, that's gonna be [0:25:53, 0:25:54]: Yeah. [0:25:54, 0:25:55]: Yeah. [0:25:55, 0:25:57]: That's gonna be nice. [0:25:57, 0:25:58]: Okay. [0:25:58, 0:26:00]: All right, uh Councilman Thomas Gray, please. [0:26:01, 0:26:06]: Mayor Ford, my my concern is, and I know we're looking at some numbers. [0:26:06, 0:26:09]: But my concern is um making sure. [0:26:10, 0:26:19]: And I know Falcon has sort of given us that, but making sure that financially we're able to do it seems to be uh three. [0:26:20, 0:26:23]: project. We we're talking about the East Atlanta project. [0:26:24, 0:26:28]: The reconfiguration of Lee Street, the first initial [0:26:29, 0:26:35]: uh project and now we're talking about what we're looking at now the uh lee street [0:26:35, 0:26:38]: extension project and I'm looking at [0:26:38, 0:26:41]: The total estimate project cost [0:26:42, 0:26:43]: And so [0:26:43, 0:26:44]: Yeah. [0:26:44, 0:26:45]: If they're [0:26:46, 0:26:48]: Ms. Holiday, were you trying to get my attention? [0:26:48, 0:26:48]: No. [0:26:49, 0:26:52]: Okay. So my concern is if the funds are there. [0:26:53, 0:26:55]: To do and I'm saying all three. [0:26:56, 0:26:59]: Uh I'm in favor of that and it and it appears [0:26:59, 0:27:02]: Uh, even with the contention that there is enough. [0:27:03, 0:27:08]: um to do it. So um let me ask Falcon um is is my [0:27:09, 0:27:11]: Um assessment, is that correct? [0:27:11, 0:27:19]: It is, but uh the one thing that uh you need to be aware of is those two parking lots that are been added on Lee Street, we have not [0:27:19, 0:27:25]: uh done a cost estimate on those at this point in time. That's another uh dollar value. [0:27:26, 0:27:31]: Okay, so this is strictly that sidewalk going from Lee back into the amphitheater. [0:27:32, 0:27:36]: Right. And and and that that ninety-two thousand uh [0:27:37, 0:27:40]: Uh Mr. Thomas is just this right here. [0:27:40, 0:27:43]: And that goes back to uh Bryant Street, is that correct? [0:27:44, 0:27:53]: Well, it connects to what we were already doing on Lee Street. Um and and that sidewalk does go all the way back to Bryant. [0:27:53, 0:27:58]: Well uh for if if that is the case, Mayor, I I would think then [0:27:58, 0:28:05]: that we we could not make a decision uh if we're still in favor of the the parking spaces there. [0:28:05, 0:28:08]: I don't see how we can um agree or vote. [0:28:09, 0:28:17]: Unless um the additional parking is included, so we would know the total amount unless we're going to. [0:28:18, 0:28:21]: approval this uh in phases. It seems that [0:28:21, 0:28:27]: Uh we have the the financially we are able to do everything ex at this point. [0:28:27, 0:28:34]: That we know of, we're able to do everything except the addition of parking. So I don't know if council wants to approve. [0:28:35, 0:28:40]: to do that and then come back uh to approve the parking or do we want to do it all in one? [0:28:42, 0:28:56]: Well, I would tell you that I know the parking would be separate because it did come after the fact. But I mean it's up to the council decision, but I would tell you I would like for us to approve this this project tonight and then the parking come back for the additional approval uh at a later date. [0:28:57, 0:28:58]: That's my thought. [0:28:58, 0:29:05]: Excuse me, but as as soon as our design is to a point, we'll generate a cost estimate and get it to the council. It should be within the next week or so. [0:29:06, 0:29:22]: Well, Mayor, I I would agree also to make sure that the project is moving forward with the uh East Atlanta Road and with the initial uh Lee Street project. I would agree with you that we definitely need that to move. And I would agree also if we could come back. [0:29:22, 0:29:25]: And to include or to amend [0:29:25, 0:29:30]: uh the parking to the overall project. So I'd be in agreement with that. [0:29:30, 0:29:43]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Yeah, unless we we just we certainly want to do everything that we can to keep these projects moving down the tracks. Uh the sub the spring and the concerts will be here before we know it. [0:29:44, 0:29:44]: That is correct. [0:29:45, 0:29:55]: So uh do I have a motion uh to what we where we what we do here. I need a motion, please. Yes, sir. I'm uh I will motion to approve uh the project as presented, including. [0:29:56, 0:29:58]: The additional uh sidewalk that we had uh [0:29:59, 0:30:00]: Discussed here. [0:30:00, 0:30:03]: To make sure that this project continues moving forward. [0:30:03, 0:30:04]: On time. [0:30:05, 0:30:06]: I second. [0:30:06, 0:30:08]: All right, fantastic. Any further discussion? [0:30:09, 0:30:16]: All in favor to all favor to most questions. One really quick question. So when is this project expected to be complete? [0:30:16, 0:30:17]: More than this is a [0:30:18, 0:30:19]: Yeah. [0:30:21, 0:30:23]: Falcon, can you answer that question, please? [0:30:23, 0:30:24]: Is my [0:30:26, 0:30:27]: I uh we could hear that. [0:30:28, 0:30:35]: When's when's the the project scheduled this particular project we're gonna vote on once approved? When are you expected to be complete? [0:30:36, 0:30:56]: That's going to depend on how you want to handle this. If you wanted to bit we we'd have to go out and you know do the survey, do the design. Uh and then the city has the option of doing a change order with the contractor that's on Lee Street to just have it roll into this project. And so, you know, it would be [0:30:56, 0:31:02]: uh basically continuous with the uh Lee Street project if the council chose to do it that way. [0:31:04, 0:31:07]: When will the Lee Street project be complete? [0:31:07, 0:31:08]: Yeah, uh [0:31:08, 0:31:28]: They have a four month uh timeline on their thing right now. But again, that's weather dependent, everything else. Uh there the entire project that we had was uh almost ten months between the two and that there's not a specific breakdown on Lee Street versus East Atlanta. The breakdown. [0:31:28, 0:31:32]: breakdown is both those projects have to be finished in that 10 month window. [0:31:34, 0:31:36]: Okay. Thank you. [0:31:36, 0:31:41]: All right. Now back to the mo motion has been made and been seconded. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:31:43, 0:31:43]: Uh [0:31:44, 0:31:57]: Uh okay. That's an unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Um gentlemen, I need to just get this particular uh piece of this contract and to my desk and I'll sign off on it as soon as possible. Yes, sir. All right, thank you. [0:31:58, 0:31:59]: All right. Thank you very much. [0:31:59, 0:32:19]: Uh this is Angie Robinson. Can I say one thing um just on these two projects? There are private property owners along this project that rights have to be acquired from before construction starts. I'm waiting on um title certifications to be finalized. Some are starting to trickle in and then [0:32:19, 0:32:37]: And we gotta make offers to these owners for the rights that need to be acquired. So and Angela, what do I just wanna have you just do a complete download for us in the executive session? Sure. I just wanna make sure the Falcon folks know and they should know that there's some parcels out there that we can't get on until we have those rights. [0:32:37, 0:32:41]: The contractor is not working on anything except public right of way and city owned properties. [0:32:42, 0:32:43]: Perfect. Thank you. [0:32:46, 0:32:48]: All right. Falcon, please continue. [0:32:49, 0:32:51]: Right. Next project's downtown alleyway. [0:32:53, 0:32:54]: This is [0:32:57, 0:33:05]: Yeah. This is the uh project off of Burke uh backing up to the uh uh downtown businesses. [0:33:06, 0:33:22]: The concept uh has been modified by the city staff recently. We're uh at a point where we produced two new easements or two new cost estimates or adjusted a cost estimate. The talk was to uh, yeah, please. [0:33:23, 0:33:27]: The original plan was to uh put in a uh [0:33:28, 0:33:43]: a uh paver driveway down the alley, put some landscaping adjacent to the buildings, have access to the buildings, and a uh GAB parking lot that was going to be temporary along with the delivery system that was permanent. [0:33:43, 0:34:03]: The uh new thought thought process or new request was to modify that and uh and we've already got drawings accordingly. You you don't have it here, but uh we've got approved drawings. Well, these are the approved drawings from the city that we just got back, but uh the new S the new uh [0:34:03, 0:34:23]: Request from the city staff was all the area adjacent to the uh buildings would no longer be landscaped, it would just be solid concrete uh going to the face of the buildings, and that the parking lot itself would become uh a paved parking lot. Uh so we uh looked at the costs on. [0:34:23, 0:34:35]: on that and essentially from the original cost estimate it it increases the cost of the project by about fifty thousand dollars to do what the uh uh you know [0:34:35, 0:34:39]: What's the difference between option one and option two? Option one is the original option. [0:34:40, 0:34:42]: Yeah, that's three hundred ninety five thousand dollars. [0:34:42, 0:34:48]: And option two is with the paving. So it's basically about$50,000 increase. [0:34:50, 0:34:57]: and and taking away some of that landscaping against the building and making it a a solid impervious surface. [0:34:58, 0:35:00]: So question. Go right in, sir. [0:35:00, 0:35:05]: So the beautification is in the landscape. And so is there a cosm is there a [0:35:05, 0:35:11]: Is there an engineering reason for moving the beautification or is it just a cost? [0:35:11, 0:35:31]: It was it was more a maintenance issue, but uh the beautification is going to be in the islands around the parking lot and the pavers. Uh and then right against the building, it's going to give them more usable space uh for their areas. We have a we have some screening uh at the back doors of [0:35:31, 0:35:50]: of each one of these uh facilities, a little uh privacy fence type thing where they can hide some of their stuff uh to keep it out of the way. But uh essentially it would be a lot more efficient from a maintenance standpoint and uh usability standpoint for those property owners. [0:35:51, 0:35:57]: Well, I'm certainly in in a pro in I certainly approve the paving instead of a having a gravel parking lot. [0:35:57, 0:35:58]: But they're also [0:35:59, 0:36:01]: Uh I I I approve of that. [0:36:01, 0:36:01]: Yeah. [0:36:02, 0:36:16]: Well, our the question I would have then is, you know, the uh we were asked just to look at paving. So we're talking about paving on the ground. Would you want to make this a full-fledged parking lot with curb and gutter and all that to really dress it off? [0:36:18, 0:36:38]: Well the question okay, that's a good point. But so the question is how much additional cost would that be that process as well? Uh curbing gutter is about twenty-five dollars a foot. I I don't know, you know, I I would say you got four or five hundred feet and there'll be a little bit more fill because you're changing you we'll be raising those islands essentially. Uh, but that's about [0:36:38, 0:36:50]: it, uh a little bit of maybe a little storm grains, you're probably looking at another uh$10,000 to$15,000 in that range for that kind of work. [0:36:51, 0:36:53]: All right. Mayor. Yeah, go ahead, sir. [0:36:54, 0:36:57]: Let me just say this for me and I'm speaking for me only. [0:36:57, 0:36:59]: Is that whatever we do? [0:36:59, 0:37:01]: We want to do it right. [0:37:01, 0:37:03]: Putting this parking lot there. [0:37:03, 0:37:06]: without curb and gutter would not be right. [0:37:06, 0:37:08]: And then if if we [0:37:09, 0:37:10]: The with what we have [0:37:11, 0:37:11]: Mm. [0:37:12, 0:37:15]: Co completing this parking lot in itself. [0:37:15, 0:37:27]: Some of this should be infrastructure uh that's necessary in order to do that to be able to use water and sewer funds and uh pot potentially uh ARPA funds, is that correct? [0:37:29, 0:37:33]: Because this is this that's this is considered infrastructure, isn't it? [0:37:35, 0:37:49]: Seemed like it would be be right. I don't know if other anybody has any other comments on that or not, but uh we'll have to check into to make sure that we can utilize those funds. But I'm I'm in agreement with you. I I figure that we should be able to dress it up properly. Um [0:37:50, 0:37:55]: Anyway, um if if you're done, Mayor Potem, I'm gonna move on. Uh Miss Braggs, you have your hand up. [0:37:57, 0:38:06]: Yes, sir. Um I just wanted to make the comment with regard to the curb and gutter. The reason we um originally [0:38:07, 0:38:09]: Um had this slated for [0:38:09, 0:38:12]: Um just the gravel parking lot. [0:38:12, 0:38:18]: was because we wanted to make sure that this space was still available for future development. [0:38:18, 0:38:20]: We did not want to put in [0:38:20, 0:38:26]: a great deal of asphalt, sidewalk material, curb and gutter, that sort of thing. [0:38:27, 0:38:31]: because we wanted it to be development ready. [0:38:32, 0:38:34]: Um putting in the additional asphalt. [0:38:34, 0:38:39]: In all of the other um accoutrements that you all are speaking of. [0:38:39, 0:38:46]: might make it less attractive for a developer to come in and want to have to remove all of that. [0:38:47, 0:38:57]: But with that being said, I do want to say that after we had our meeting with the property owners in that area. [0:38:57, 0:39:12]: they were very um in favor of having at least the areas that are currently paved, um the asphalt area that is currently paved to to be repaved again. So they were uh very much [0:39:13, 0:39:18]: um against the gravel. So that is why I requested that [0:39:18, 0:39:22]: um Falcon um our Falcon designers go back and [0:39:23, 0:39:24]: Um put in [0:39:24, 0:39:25]: The [0:39:25, 0:39:28]: Asphalt give us a cost on the asphalt. [0:39:28, 0:39:33]: Um because they did make that request that the gravel not be put in place. [0:39:34, 0:39:35]: But um I [0:39:36, 0:39:39]: do want to caution us with regard to the curb and gutter. [0:39:39, 0:39:45]: Um, if we want to attract some development for that space because we are trying to create [0:39:46, 0:39:50]: that city square that was depicted in our RSVP. [0:39:50, 0:39:57]: We don't want to do a lot of infrastructure in that space if it's going to be torn out eventually by a future developer. [0:39:59, 0:40:06]: Well, I d I don't know if that's well, I I understand that, but uh additional parking space is always something I think we would need as well. But once again [0:40:06, 0:40:10]: was have to get query the the council on what time thoughts you have. So the [0:40:10, 0:40:24]: Anybody else on the council have any other comments? Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. Uh yeah, before Mrs. Bragg spoke, that was going to be my concern. I I think whatever we do in that area, I'm I'm in favor of the the parking area, but I think [0:40:25, 0:40:28]: Everything we do have to line up with the [0:40:28, 0:40:32]: Overall uh comprehensive plan. [0:40:32, 0:40:36]: uh for uh our our downtown um [0:40:36, 0:40:37]: re redevelopment. [0:40:37, 0:40:44]: So um I I'm gonna agree with Mrs. Bragg and I I think we may have to revisit that. [0:40:44, 0:40:48]: To make sure that everything we do, we don't want to waste money. [0:40:49, 0:40:56]: uh um you know with curbing gutters if it's not if those uh spaces are not conducive to [0:40:57, 0:41:01]: the overall plan because um and I don't want to get too far into [0:41:02, 0:41:10]: um, you know, uh businesses coming in and that that kind of conversation. But I think we need to keep in mind that we are [0:41:10, 0:41:11]: uh opened. [0:41:12, 0:41:15]: uh for business uh in that particular area. [0:41:16, 0:41:17]: So [0:41:17, 0:41:18]: Not [0:41:18, 0:41:27]: Getting too deep into this discussion. I think we need to make sure that everything that we do in that area fits. [0:41:27, 0:41:30]: With the overall master plan. [0:41:30, 0:41:33]: for revitalization in our downtown. [0:41:34, 0:41:35]: Oh yeah. [0:41:35, 0:41:36]: Go ahead, sir. [0:41:36, 0:41:38]: I just have one question. So [0:41:38, 0:41:44]: Uh this area is designated for parking in the RSVP, is it not? [0:41:46, 0:41:52]: No, sir. That particular area is designated for um future construction. [0:41:53, 0:42:13]: What what is what was going to be constructed there? Because it's behind what is this? This is behind what? The this is behind um Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. This is the area that is right next to um Fletcher and Sons automotive. The grassy area is beside Fletcher and Sons at the bottom of the screen. [0:42:13, 0:42:21]: Screen that kind of moved it off of the if you move that move it the page back up, you'll see Fletcher and Sons on the corner. There's a grassy area there. [0:42:22, 0:42:29]: And then there is a paved area at the top of that grassy area. And that is currently where. [0:42:30, 0:42:32]: Um there is some parking, but that [0:42:32, 0:42:39]: particular um area. The asphalt is very broken and um unsightly at this point. [0:42:39, 0:42:44]: Where where is the Ted Strickland parking at? I see Ted Strickland. Where's the parking? I don't see it indicated. [0:42:45, 0:42:57]: Right behind, yeah, where the cursor is right now. That's where um parking is currently available for the Ted Strickland. And that is where the old um police station was taken out. [0:42:57, 0:43:12]: Okay, so okay. So how um I'm now I'm totally confused. So how would the park I I thought that's where we were in in this drawing. I thought we were behind uh the Ted. But this is the empty park, that is the parking lot. [0:43:12, 0:43:13]: That lines up [0:43:14, 0:43:16]: Uh where it is uh it's currently vacant. [0:43:16, 0:43:17]: There now, correct? [0:43:18, 0:43:18]: Yes, sir. [0:43:20, 0:43:21]: Okay, so [0:43:22, 0:43:26]: If this was not in the RSVP, how did we end up with [0:43:26, 0:43:29]: The parking suggestion there versus [0:43:29, 0:43:31]: Improving the parking behind the tid. [0:43:33, 0:43:53]: Um this was not necessarily a parking improvement project. This was just to um correct some of the um I guess drainage issues that are in the back of the alleyway and in that particular lot, and also to correct um the asphalt issues. There are potholes and other um [0:43:52, 0:43:53]: Um [0:43:53, 0:43:57]: I guess unsightly conditions in that particular area. [0:43:58, 0:44:05]: So it was basically just to clean it up and to um pave the alleyway itself. [0:44:05, 0:44:10]: Okay, so in the RSVP then this is the anchor building location. [0:44:11, 0:44:16]: When you refer to anchor building the the mixed the right right below where when you [0:44:17, 0:44:24]: When you're looking at the rendering of the video on the RSVP, there's a mixed use building in this location. Is that correct? [0:44:25, 0:44:40]: It is a mixed use it mixed juice is um prescribed for that particular space, the entire space, and then if you were to move past the Ted Strickland, um there is also um future proposed mixed use. [0:44:40, 0:44:45]: Um past the Ted Strickland on Berk Street. So if you were to move the um [0:44:46, 0:44:47]: The map up a little more. [0:44:47, 0:44:55]: You would be able to see where the other proposed development is. Well, well, that that's what I'm saying. I'm totally confused because I thought we were right. [0:44:55, 0:45:14]: behind uh where the TED is. No, this should not even no sir. This should not be behind the you're actually behind CNL Beauty Salon, um the um Barrie Street building and the building that the city currently owns, which is one fourteen MLK. [0:45:14, 0:45:26]: So so in essence, none of this parking should be there because we should be focusing on improving the parking behind the TED, which is which I thought this is what we were doing. So in essence [0:45:26, 0:45:27]: This should be [0:45:27, 0:45:28]: uh [0:45:28, 0:45:32]: raw land or uh t in order for the future [0:45:32, 0:45:35]: possible anchor building to go in this location. [0:45:36, 0:45:43]: That is what is proposed for that site, some sort of future development. And that was the reason why we initially [0:45:44, 0:45:50]: did not want to put down asphalt and make this into a parking lot. People park there now. [0:45:51, 0:45:53]: Бфорче перпис. [0:45:53, 0:45:56]: We plan to have a building there. [0:45:58, 0:46:01]: Okay. N now now I understand. I thought we were behind [0:46:02, 0:46:12]: uh the TED and we were working on improving the parking behind the TED, which which is what we should be doing. But uh any behind the TED is a part of the Breezeway. [0:46:13, 0:46:13]: Mm-hmm. [0:46:13, 0:46:24]: The Breezeway connectivity that is proposed as phase two of this project would handle the parking behind the Ted Strickland, but that is a part of phase two. [0:46:25, 0:46:32]: the breezeway portion. So in essence, this is a totally new project that has been introduced into what what was going to happen. [0:46:33, 0:46:40]: No, sir. This is not new. We've been talking about this parking is a totally new phase. [0:46:40, 0:46:46]: 'Cause this parking wasn't this parking is this so this parking is not part of the RSBP at all, is it? [0:46:47, 0:46:52]: This is parking that was already existing there. That's why I was saying we were not trying to [0:46:52, 0:46:56]: put asphalt we were going to have just a gravelled um [0:46:57, 0:47:02]: space back there so it would be ready for development. However [0:47:02, 0:47:06]: There has been some um when we spoke with the [0:47:07, 0:47:11]: current property owners um when we had our meeting [0:47:11, 0:47:21]: they were not in favor of having um gravel placed back there because they have been used to having asphalt parking back there. [0:47:22, 0:47:27]: But that is up to the council as to whether or not they would want to put [0:47:27, 0:47:29]: Asphalt back there to [0:47:29, 0:47:33]: Um accommodate those um business owners who [0:47:34, 0:47:40]: are currently parking back there and would like to see asphalt returned back there or if you would like to [0:47:40, 0:47:43]: um start moving toward having that area. [0:47:44, 0:47:46]: uh prepared for future development. [0:47:46, 0:47:51]: So in essence what will happen is the you would put the asphalt back there temporarily. [0:47:52, 0:47:56]: Uh yes, sir. Okay. Okay. Now I I I I was off base. I I I [0:47:56, 0:48:00]: I pull back. So yeah, that would be my recommendation. [0:48:00, 0:48:00]: Okay. [0:48:01, 0:48:16]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Uh yes, Mayor Pro Tem, I was going to um suggest and recommend that you do pull back somewhat because I I think your orientation is is a little off on on the on the on the projected plan. [0:48:16, 0:48:18]: And I I think some of your [0:48:18, 0:48:21]: uh understanding could be had [0:48:21, 0:48:22]: Offline. [0:48:22, 0:48:25]: Uh but it but yeah, I I mean [0:48:25, 0:48:28]: Just knowing the plan, I I would say that [0:48:28, 0:48:29]: Yo [0:48:29, 0:48:48]: You're miss you're misunderstanding uh what's actually to come, but um since you've already pulled back, I would just sort of just let it go at that and we move on. And I think uh some of your questions and concern could be answered uh offline somewhere because we don't really want to get too deep into [0:48:48, 0:48:50]: Um, you know [0:48:50, 0:48:52]: Some of the [0:48:52, 0:48:54]: discussions of [0:48:56, 0:48:57]: And I'll leave it at that. [0:48:59, 0:49:19]: All right. So back to you, Falcon. So otherwise, uh, for you you asked about curve and gutter. So I would think now that um that is off the table at this point. And um you're just going to uh submit or or or talk to us about some of some of this uh paving to be done and this. [0:49:19, 0:49:21]: Aspect is what I gather now. [0:49:26, 0:49:46]: Yes. Uh like I say, we were we understood it was supposed to be temporary parking, but when the asphalt was introduced, that's when we, you know, wanted to know how long a frame, whether or not you wanted to do the aesthetics of that, et cetera. But that's not a problem. Uh we'll we can put that all together. [0:49:46, 0:50:06]: As a matter of fact, we already have uh they're finalizing all of that as we speak. And then the only thing that would be uh since we do have approved uh design plans from the city staff, uh the only thing that we would be waiting on, which I guess the attorneys will talk to you some more about is is easements and uh acquisitions. [0:50:06, 0:50:08]: Along that the alleyway. [0:50:09, 0:50:11]: Okay. Yeah. [0:50:11, 0:50:17]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. The the appropriate question is is when when when will this project start and when will it end? [0:50:17, 0:50:19]: Now that we've made this decision. [0:50:20, 0:50:24]: Uh it's gonna be totally up to the acquisition of properties. [0:50:24, 0:50:25]: Oh. [0:50:27, 0:50:27]: All right. [0:50:28, 0:50:38]: All right. And so um attorneys, uh you obviously this is somewhat new to you at this point. And and uh you have any idea how how how long this may take? [0:50:42, 0:50:48]: But hope was and tell me, Ms. Robinson, what you think. We were going to these were all going to be things we're going to discuss in executive sessions. Okay. [0:50:49, 0:50:53]: I could just say title works in the process right now. All right. Okay. It's for Falcon's benefit. [0:50:53, 0:50:56]: Okay, thank you. All right, Falcon, continue on, please. [0:50:58, 0:51:01]: All right, uh next project. [0:51:02, 0:51:06]: Is Smith Barnes sewer collection system rehab force main rehab and replacement. [0:51:07, 0:51:21]: Yeah, that's bidding this week. Uh we're waiting on that. That's a C D BG project, by the way, that uh yeah, the city's getting uh a little over three hundred thousand dollars uh in grant money for this work and uh [0:51:21, 0:51:35]: Uh hopefully we'll uh as soon as we get get the bids in and we bet the contractors and the you know the the uh council approves a award, uh we'll we'll be putting a contractor to work. [0:51:37, 0:51:41]: All right. Thank you. Any questions, counsel, about this? [0:51:43, 0:51:48]: I do, I do have a question. Go right here, please. Uh project award and execution of contracts. [0:51:48, 0:51:52]: is estimated to be an additional sixty days. Why is that? [0:51:53, 0:52:11]: That's the time frame that you the city is basically taken uh from the time of award till uh execution or time of posting of bid to award. Yeah. That's all that's all. It's it that's been the norm that's uh happened uh currently. [0:52:14, 0:52:34]: I mean it's gonna be posted for 30 days for bid. Well it's already been posted. It's bidding this week. Yep. Uh the contracts will come out. Uh like I say, contractors, the procurement department will vet the contractor and uh make recommendations to the council. But uh like I say, uh previous projects have been [0:52:34, 0:52:38]: Approximately sixty days before council uh awarded contract. [0:52:39, 0:52:42]: Okay, no, we need to cut that down to at least 30 days. [0:52:42, 0:52:47]: after council approves the recommendation to award. [0:52:47, 0:53:07]: That should be less than 30 days. Well, once the council approves recommendation award and we're notified, uh we immediately send out the contract documents to the uh contractor for execution and then they return to the city for you know for their side of it. So again, uh as fast as uh [0:53:07, 0:53:15]: uh the council award or makes the award, uh contracts will be going within a day or two to the contractor. [0:53:15, 0:53:20]: Right. So that sixty days that you have there it sh is a bit [0:53:21, 0:53:21]: Much. [0:53:22, 0:53:23]: Hello. [0:53:23, 0:53:36]: Should actually be lingered to that's just an arbitrary number. That other projects that have been recently have taken about that long before we got a recomm before we were notified that the council had awarded the uh approved the award. [0:53:37, 0:53:38]: Okay, thank you. [0:53:41, 0:53:42]: Any other questions? [0:53:43, 0:53:45]: All right, continue on, please. [0:53:46, 0:53:50]: Sign design, wayfinding signs. [0:53:52, 0:53:53]: We got an update on that. [0:53:57, 0:53:59]: Go right, yeah. [0:54:01, 0:54:01]: Yeah. [0:54:03, 0:54:23]: Again, uh we've met with the city staff. Uh we're going to they want to do an overlay of uh uh the wayfinding signs with other operations that are currently going on and uh try and work on phasing the uh these signs in and do a site-specific. [0:54:23, 0:54:34]: design for each one, but the city staff is going to be doing the research on where they want to put where the signs will do the most for the city. [0:54:35, 0:54:46]: These were some of the documents. These are the signed design documents that were uh reviewed by the city. Well they they were submitted to the city back in August and we're waiting for approval. [0:54:47, 0:54:48]: Okay, maybe. [0:54:48, 0:54:49]: Yes, sir. [0:54:49, 0:54:55]: Okay. Uh uh with all due respect, that we have made the decision on where the signs were going to go. [0:54:55, 0:54:56]: This council [0:54:57, 0:54:57]: In a retreat. [0:54:59, 0:55:03]: plotted out where we wanted the signs to be with you on the call. [0:55:07, 0:55:25]: We we have the location, but now you talk about site specific issues that the sign has to fit that area and there's probably for for like the gateway signs, there's gonna have to be land acquisition, et cetera. And that's what uh the uh development people want to take a look at uh in-house. [0:55:26, 0:55:31]: This is I imagine this is part of our executive session issue that we need to discuss, I b I would imagine. [0:55:33, 0:55:34]: Is that correct? [0:55:35, 0:55:35]: Mm. [0:55:36, 0:55:42]: I don't know anything about w uh I don't have a way finding signs and um matter open at Parker Poe. [0:55:43, 0:55:44]: Okay. [0:55:46, 0:55:47]: All right. [0:55:49, 0:56:02]: So well what I'm scrolling through and showing you are the plans, the formal design plans that were submitted for approval from the city. If you're wondering what I'm scrolling through. [0:56:04, 0:56:10]: And these were the uh plans a while back that were approved by uh the city in a meeting. [0:56:13, 0:56:33]: All right. So the d delay is because we need additional acquisition of something. You said here earlier. Is that what it there's going to be required uh some land acquisition for some of these signs? Uh the in meetings with staff it was determined that the the initial push would be to go ahead and get all the uh wayfarers. [0:56:33, 0:56:53]: Finder pedestrian signs in the downtown corridor and uh move forward with those and uh then do the like I say site specific uh where you actually have to go to a property and determine whether it fits, how how it fits, and uh you know, on on these larger signs that uh [0:56:53, 0:57:00]: are going to have to acquire either easements or actual you know fee simple property. [0:57:02, 0:57:03]: Yeah. [0:57:07, 0:57:27]: So the way ahead is to go forward and do this, correct? Nothing. We like I say the city staff is working on this as we speak and they'll be giving us direction very shortly on on uh if they want to do the phase one uh or you know do it in phases or whether [0:57:27, 0:57:42]: they want, but they were going to go look at physical locations and determine you know accessibility and uh usability and and whether it was uh reasonable property for these type of activities. [0:57:43, 0:57:47]: Okay, so when you say staff, who specifically is gonna go out? [0:57:48, 0:57:59]: Well we were talking we were talking to Becca and her staff. Brecca. Brecca, I'm sorry. Brecca Johnson. Um guys, if if if I may, uh Mayor, if I may. [0:57:59, 0:58:19]: So myself, Deshus Aaron and Alan Peterson um have met with Falcon to discuss, you know, what the project is. Of course, we've been brought into it, you know, over the last you know, couple of weeks and just trying to get an understanding of what you know how many signs are being proposed, funding sources, which is a must, and [0:58:19, 0:58:35]: what how we're gonna phase the project. So that is what's happening now. There has not been provided any quotes for any of the signs. So that is something that staff will reach out to a couple of sign companies to get that information so that we can determine [0:58:36, 0:58:49]: what where the funding sources are going to be, how much it's going to cost, um, so that we can move forward. We're thinking with downtown because that overlay area for downtown has already been outlined. [0:58:49, 0:59:01]: And with future annexation needs and things like that, we want to make sure that we take some time to go back through and ensure that we're properly assessing each of those signs. [0:59:04, 0:59:08]: And so I'm I'm confused because I thought [0:59:08, 0:59:11]: When the council reviewed this and [0:59:11, 0:59:20]: We identified the areas in which these wayfindings were going to go and which types of signs to use in various locations. [0:59:20, 0:59:22]: I thought falcons. [0:59:22, 0:59:25]: was going to get quotes on who was going to [0:59:26, 0:59:30]: Prepare the sounds, build the sounds, but non teles. [0:59:30, 0:59:36]: When should we expect that all these signs will be installed? [0:59:36, 0:59:40]: or at least the first phase, as many as they can be installed. [0:59:45, 0:59:55]: Ms. Barber, I would say that in working with the consultants, we have to establish costs initially and where the funding source is going to come from. [0:59:55, 1:00:00]: Um once that's established, we would bring back something to the council. [1:00:00, 1:00:03]: For us to move forward with that phase again. [1:00:03, 1:00:07]: the initial portion would be the downtown area since it's already established. [1:00:07, 1:00:13]: And we definitely want to have some signage uh for what you see on the screen for the areas in the downtown area. [1:00:14, 1:00:15]: Okay, Mr. Wiggins. [1:00:16, 1:00:18]: Um wayfinding signage. [1:00:18, 1:00:21]: Was that not in the budget for 2021? [1:00:22, 1:00:24]: More too, multiple. [1:00:24, 1:00:28]: Yeah, it was in there. We was gonna use some hotel motel. [1:00:28, 1:00:29]: Okay. [1:00:29, 1:00:34]: But we initially haven't hadn't gotten I I have not seen any kind of cost. [1:00:34, 1:00:36]: For the science. But [1:00:37, 1:00:41]: Like uh Councilman Zana said, hotel motel was the primary source. [1:00:43, 1:00:51]: Okay. All right. So now that we've established where the funding is going to come from, when should we expect? [1:00:51, 1:00:55]: That at least the first phase of these signs will be installed. [1:00:56, 1:00:58]: Were ordered and installed. [1:01:03, 1:01:20]: If if the city wants to do this in phases and do the pedestrian wayfinders, we can put together a package right now that uh where you put it out for bid. Uh and you know go through your procurement department or or your procurement department can go directly, however you want to do it. [1:01:25, 1:01:35]: All right, so let's do it the most effective but but uh effective way, cost efficient way and uh with the right data and information and do it in phases and start with the downtown area if we can. [1:01:36, 1:01:37]: And may Mayor. [1:01:37, 1:01:38]: Yes, sir. [1:01:38, 1:01:47]: Uh with all due respect. Uh I think what we really want was the focus here was to get these signs up to get people to the amphitheater. [1:01:47, 1:01:52]: It wasn't to focus on downtown'cause when people come, they're gonna be coming primarily. [1:01:52, 1:01:57]: to get to the amphitheater. So to direct people off the interstate to [1:01:57, 1:02:04]: uh the amphitheater was uh the was the primary goal of what we were trying to do here, I think. So um [1:02:07, 1:02:11]: All right. So but I'm sorry, maybe we need to poll the rest of the council, but I thought that was [1:02:12, 1:02:15]: What we were trying to do was to get people to Merrymanders to [1:02:15, 1:02:17]: I give people to the amphitheater. [1:02:17, 1:02:24]: And that thing, that was the part that not necessarily cause I re really was in downtown but the amphitheater right now. [1:02:26, 1:02:26]: Mayor. [1:02:27, 1:02:32]: Yes, sir. Go ahead. Yes, ma'am. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Well, that wasn't mine, Tit. We've we've spoken of the way [1:02:33, 1:02:35]: Finding signs. [1:02:35, 1:02:37]: Even prior to our downtown [1:02:37, 1:02:39]: I mean, even prior to the amphitheater. [1:02:39, 1:02:41]: I think that there's just a need. [1:02:42, 1:02:45]: in general for our wayfinding signs to include Merrill Manders. [1:02:46, 1:02:48]: Um that has been there and and [1:02:49, 1:02:54]: that our community well at the time of Ted Strickland and Mirmander that our community [1:02:54, 1:02:58]: And other communities use on a weekly basis. [1:02:59, 1:03:01]: So I I thought it was important that we had it [1:03:01, 1:03:03]: For our future purposes. [1:03:04, 1:03:05]: And and now it's even [1:03:06, 1:03:08]: enhanced important [1:03:08, 1:03:10]: Because of the amphitheater. [1:03:10, 1:03:15]: I can agree with that, but that wasn't my reasoning for wanting the white finding signs. [1:03:15, 1:03:19]: No, I agree with your assessment, which is the second assessment which was [1:03:19, 1:03:24]: It was the overall. But my point was that the amphitheater made it urgent. [1:03:28, 1:03:35]: All right. So the priority would be the w wayfinding on the on the major roadway or the downtown area. [1:03:37, 1:03:54]: And uh I think the major road area would be c will cost uh will we'll have to have uh more time in reference to, I guess, dealing with the rights of way, things that nature. I'm only assuming that. But anyway, um, what are the thoughts we have here before we as we try to make the decision how we want to go forward? [1:03:57, 1:04:09]: My thoughts are to get as many of them up as we can. Yes. And then proceed with further, you know, and proceed with the the others when when they're available when we when we're able to. [1:04:09, 1:04:15]: All right. What is that focus on downtown? Is that focus on six seventy five and seventy five? Where does that where's that focus? [1:04:18, 1:04:23]: As many as you can. I mean, what where's the where if if we're gonna do in phases, what's the primary what's the first phase here? [1:04:27, 1:04:41]: I'm thinking uh along the seventy-five, I think we're talking about the same thing. We're trying to get people to downtown. Okay. But the way that they're the way that they're gonna get there is through our seventy-five and and and the major intersections. [1:04:41, 1:04:45]: getting them there. So I think we're really talking about the same thing, is it [1:04:45, 1:04:46]: We just [1:04:46, 1:05:00]: Uh we wanna do them all, but they're all gonna eventually going to be done. But what needs to be done first? I mean to me, we got four thousand people coming to town twice a month for a whole season. That will see appear to be those folks [1:05:00, 1:05:04]: Who don't know the city, who aren't aware of what we're doing. [1:05:04, 1:05:16]: can get to downtown. We could put the Merle Manders is going to be on thattt sign too. City Hall is going to be on the same sign. All of those businesses in downtown, not just the amphitheater, is going to be on the sign. [1:05:20, 1:05:20]: Correct. [1:05:23, 1:05:24]: Mr. Thomas, do you have any comments, sir? [1:05:29, 1:05:34]: had to get off the mute. I I would agree with that assessment. I I think once folks [1:05:35, 1:05:39]: on the outskirts coming in. I think once they are in downtown. [1:05:39, 1:05:42]: I think some of these location become obvious. [1:05:43, 1:05:44]: Um, but again [1:05:45, 1:05:47]: What is the um [1:05:48, 1:05:49]: Immediate [1:05:50, 1:05:54]: Um completion, what can we get done now? [1:05:54, 1:05:57]: What is gonna take longer to to to have done? [1:05:58, 1:05:59]: But I would agree that [1:06:00, 1:06:02]: Once you get folks into downtown. [1:06:02, 1:06:06]: And then I think some of these other locations become obvious, but [1:06:06, 1:06:11]: But just to answer your question, what we can get done now, I think we need to get that done. [1:06:12, 1:06:14]: Um and then you you it [1:06:15, 1:06:17]: If if some of the other things are gonna take longer [1:06:18, 1:06:36]: then that becomes, you know, sort of problematic. But um basically though, if you get them into downtown, I think some of these other locations become obvious, but I do agree we have to make a decision tonight. So we can definitely keep keep moving forward and getting the wayfinding because it's it's been way too long already. [1:06:37, 1:06:51]: So if I understand correctly, then we're looking primarily initially part of phase one would be the from the major highways, major roadways to get folks directed to the downtown area versus concentrating on what's internally the downtown. Is that so I don't understand? [1:06:51, 1:06:53]: I I would say so because [1:06:53, 1:07:00]: Uh folks on the outskirts are not gonna be able to see it anyway if they can't get downtown. So you got to get them downtown first. [1:07:00, 1:07:01]: All right. [1:07:02, 1:07:14]: So with that said, if that's the the way the phase one, then uh how can not only Falcon, but how can our staff go ahead and work towards this process so we can get this phase one taken care of as soon as possible? [1:07:15, 1:07:20]: Well, mayor, if I may continue, I I I think some of the the smaller details [1:07:20, 1:07:25]: I think the staff and faculty will just have to come together and get some of those things or iron out. [1:07:25, 1:07:28]: I I think if we give them the approval. [1:07:28, 1:07:32]: Uh we want to start with the outskirts first. [1:07:32, 1:07:42]: I think that's our um obligation and responsibility. Then I think from that it get handed off to faculty and the staff for them to work out the small details. [1:07:43, 1:07:43]: All right. [1:07:45, 1:07:48]: All right, so this we need to put that to a a vote, a motion and a vote. [1:07:49, 1:07:50]: I would say so. [1:07:50, 1:07:51]: Go right in, sir. [1:07:53, 1:07:54]: I need a motion. [1:07:55, 1:07:55]: And a second. [1:07:58, 1:07:59]: What would the motion be? [1:08:00, 1:08:14]: Mayor Pro Tem, would you like to go ahead and make that motion? Yes, sir. I will make a motion that we tas staff with uh working on the major arteries to get to funnel people uh into downtown uh as the priority in the phase one. [1:08:14, 1:08:16]: uh of the [1:08:16, 1:08:18]: Wayfinding signage as we move forward. [1:08:19, 1:08:21]: Uh in an expeditious manner. [1:08:21, 1:08:22]: I second that motion. [1:08:23, 1:08:24]: All right. Any further discussion? [1:08:25, 1:08:27]: If not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:08:28, 1:08:28]: Uh [1:08:29, 1:08:29]: Okay. [1:08:30, 1:08:33]: Ms. Barber, I can't see your hand. Let me move. I guess you voted for that. [1:08:33, 1:08:37]: Okay, there you go. Thank you very much. All right, thank you for that. [1:08:37, 1:08:47]: All right, so now we have our marching orders there. Um okay, Falcon, any any anything else further in your presentation? Yes. Yes. Go right ahead, please. [1:08:52, 1:09:12]: As you know, the the LMIG project uh uh was held up because of a contractor uh confusion. Uh that project, LMIG 2021, as the notice proceed was issued effective March 2022, which is when the contractor could go to work. That one's uh in the basically contractor. [1:09:12, 1:09:32]: Contracted and ready to go. LMIG 2022 is being bid the end of this month. And we expect that one to start almost the same time when it's released. So that you'll have, I think that's a total of almost 31 or 32 roads getting resurfaced at [1:09:32, 1:09:52]: that time. Uh then Love Street, go to the go to the next. Uh and I'm sure the uh attorneys will be discussing this with you. Uh this is the fire station on the corner of Love Street and uh MLK. And you see the blue line. [1:09:52, 1:10:12]: Based on deeds that have been able to be found, the blue line is what we have found that is owned by the city, which means the building extends beyond that. So the uh attorneys are trying to research and find additional documents. [1:10:11, 1:10:17]: documentation to show what the actual limits of uh ownership are in that area. [1:10:20, 1:10:26]: Okay. We'll we'll have further discussion about that. I'm pretty soon, pretty sure. Yeah, yeah. [1:10:28, 1:10:48]: And then the only other issue we have is you know the miscellaneous stormwaters uh projects. Just to let you know, the Hudson Bridge Drive, which was a major undertaking, uh they're wrapping that up uh this week. Uh the new pipes are in. We had to build temporary uh lanes for the for the [1:10:48, 1:11:06]: community that live behind in the county. But all the pipes have been repaired, everything's been replaced, and they're pouring the curving tomorrow to put everything back in place and we're good to go. They're moving to the Magnolias at Eagles Landing next, which will be next week. [1:11:06, 1:11:26]: And uh scheduling the work that was uh approved in that area. And uh the needletop work, uh the attorneys have gotten us access to all of that. Uh that will be the third project in line. And then uh the 103 turning point, uh, there are easements outstanding on that. I'm sure the attorneys can. [1:11:26, 1:11:27]: Can discuss with you. [1:11:30, 1:11:31]: Okay. [1:11:31, 1:11:51]: That's that's the needlepoint project where we've just uh just to let you know what happened there is there if you see the uh dashed lines there, those are existing stormwater, no the big lines. Those are existing stormwater system that you own. Uh and somehow or another, this particular [1:11:51, 1:12:11]: Area that shows all the grading. The property owner did some clearing there and buried everything so that nothing could drain into that area. And we're just cleaning it up and opening it back up so that you now have can drain that basin into the existing collection system. [1:12:11, 1:12:15]: That's what's happening at that particular site. [1:12:17, 1:12:17]: Okay. [1:12:19, 1:12:39]: And this is turning point. You've got the same issue where you've got stormwater being discharged behind a property that goes into the backyards of all these property owners. And uh we're having to modify the backyards to uh create a collection area that's gonna take that apart uh and and mitigate all the uh [1:12:39, 1:12:48]: water going to the back of these housing homes. And again, that one will move forward after the easements are obtained. [1:12:50, 1:12:51]: Okay. [1:12:53, 1:12:55]: And that is it. [1:12:55, 1:12:55]: Two. [1:12:56, 1:12:59]: Thank you. Any further questions, Council? Before they depart. [1:13:01, 1:13:03]: Okay, concealing. [1:13:03, 1:13:17]: All right. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate uh appreciate that. That's um uh things that we needed to vote on, we voted on. Other other than that, I guess is informational for us. I don't think there's any other votes that are needed this time. [1:13:18, 1:13:25]: Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. And uh you obviously you can stay as long as you like, but uh thank you for your time. Appreciate it. [1:13:26, 1:13:33]: Uh Carter Sloop project update, status and timeline, uh Chad Petson, uh if if I pronounce it properly. [1:13:35, 1:13:36]: Peddon, I guess it is. [1:13:37, 1:13:42]: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. It's uh it's Pedon, actually. Excuse me, Pedon, excuse me. [1:13:43, 1:13:45]: Good to be here with y'all. Um [1:13:45, 1:13:48]: I'm gonna share my screen really quick, if you'll bear with me. [1:13:53, 1:14:00]: I believe y'all may have seen this document already. This is a summary of the current projects that we have. [1:14:00, 1:14:14]: Uh to start at the first one, it's the wastewater treatment plant and Glen Addy pump station improvements. We're actually so I'm sorry, Mr. Pedon, we don't see anything on screen. You see are you trying to show your screen? We don't see anything at this time. Yes, sir. [1:14:15, 1:14:18]: There we go. Looks like it's coming up now. Okay, there we go. [1:14:19, 1:14:20]: Okay. [1:14:20, 1:14:25]: You're seeing the project status report now, sir? Right, sir. Fantastic. [1:14:25, 1:14:26]: Oh my god. [1:14:27, 1:14:27]: Okay. [1:14:29, 1:14:30]: Can you make it any larger, sir? [1:14:32, 1:14:32]: So [1:14:33, 1:14:33]: Zoom in. [1:14:37, 1:14:38]: Great. Thank you. [1:14:38, 1:14:40]: Yes, ma'am. Thank you. [1:14:41, 1:14:57]: So the first project is the wastewater treatment plant in Glen Addy Pump Station Improvements. We're working on change order number three. Change order number three was replacement of the decanters in each of the SPR basins at the wastewater treatment plant. [1:14:57, 1:15:17]: We completed installation of the West Basin uh the week before Thanksgiving and we have the East Basin scheduled to be completed next week. Once that's finished, we'll address punch list items and have this project closed out the first of January. So this one's been a long time coming. [1:15:19, 1:15:19]: Yeah. [1:15:21, 1:15:41]: Next project is the Maze Crossing Lift Station Rehabilitation and Force Bane Replacement. This project has been bid. It's been awarded by council, and the contracts are actually with procurement. We're waiting on the contract agreement to be executed and then schedule a pre-construction meeting with the contract. [1:15:41, 1:15:43]: So we can start construction. [1:15:45, 1:15:46]: Okay. [1:15:48, 1:16:07]: The next project is the Burke Street sewer main rehabilitation. This project has also been bid out. It has been awarded by counsel and the uh the city's attorney is reviewing the contracts now and we're preparing to get those to the contractor for execution and then back to y'all. [1:16:07, 1:16:10]: And then we can get that project started as well. [1:16:13, 1:16:14]: All right. [1:16:14, 1:16:24]: The uh the next project that we have is a utility relocation. This is for uh State Route 138 and 42. This is right there in front of the Walmart. Yes, sir. [1:16:26, 1:16:32]: Uh uh I am a qu somebody has a question, I'm sorry. Yes, I do. Uh Mail Mayor Ford and Mr. Yeah, go ahead, sir. [1:16:33, 1:16:33]: Listen. [1:16:33, 1:16:39]: Could you elaborate somewhat on the uh Berk Street uh sewer? [1:16:39, 1:16:42]: uh rehab and and and m my thinking is [1:16:43, 1:16:43]: Um [1:16:44, 1:16:47]: You know, Burke Street is is that particular area that [1:16:48, 1:16:51]: uh we are highlighting, we're concentrating on. [1:16:51, 1:16:55]: Uh is that any information that we need to know that's going to [1:16:56, 1:17:00]: Um you know, infrastructure, you know, for sure. [1:17:00, 1:17:03]: uh in in preparedness of [1:17:03, 1:17:13]: future development in that particular area. Is there anything that you just want to share with us to give us some insight uh on on our future development in that particular area? [1:17:15, 1:17:35]: I I'm not sure about the future development in the area, but I I can't elaborate a bit on the project. So the existing sanitary sewer main in that area is in uh a degraded state. There's sections of cast iron pipe um with significant tuberculations that's minimized the capacity of the line through there. [1:17:35, 1:17:55]: As well as sections of clay pipe that have collapsed. And actually, I believe that operators have jetted out pretty large substantial pieces of the pipe. And so the condition of the pipe is in bad shape. What we have done is we've evaluated the capacity and the condition of those lines. [1:17:55, 1:18:15]: And come up with a plan to replace or rehabilitate those sections, depending on the issues that are present in those lines, whether or not we can line the pipes, whether we can uh pipe burst or have to open cut those sections. And the scope of work actually extends from the part right there at Brush Creek. [1:18:15, 1:18:27]: Creek all the way up to Highway 42. Right there. I believe it's um Bridge View Cafe is the scope of work, from there all the way into the park. [1:18:28, 1:18:33]: Yeah, I I think that's really important because any future development I think [1:18:33, 1:18:36]: Um, you know, people need to know that. [1:18:37, 1:18:57]: The infrastructure along that area has been upgraded. And I reason I ask for you to elaborate on that, I just think uh potential investors and developers need to know that that has been taken care of. And so that is great information to know. And I think for any future development, uh that is just good information. [1:18:57, 1:18:59]: information uh t to be known. [1:18:59, 1:19:03]: So I just want to thank you uh for um just elaborating on that. [1:19:04, 1:19:06]: Yes, sir. Absolutely. [1:19:06, 1:19:10]: I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. No problem. Go ahead, sir. Please. [1:19:11, 1:19:31]: Okay. The uh the next project is the utility relocation. This was in front of Walmart. Um we have submitted second submission relocations to GDOT. At this point, they are in property acquisition and we are on hold until they come back with a let date. So [1:19:31, 1:19:34]: So at this point we're pencils down, waiting on G Doc. [1:19:36, 1:19:56]: The next project is water system modeling and hydraulic improvements. We completed and submitted a technical memorandum back in July of this year. We had a couple recommendations in that memorandum on improvements that the city could make to their distribution system. [1:19:56, 1:19:58]: System um [1:19:58, 1:20:08]: And the city has actually moved forward with some of those uh recommendations and we'll discuss those later in the 2021 water system improvements. [1:20:11, 1:20:12]: Okay, great. [1:20:14, 1:20:26]: The next project is the wastewater treatment plant pole barn. We're approximately 60% complete on design. We have uh we have geotech work scheduled. Um [1:20:27, 1:20:47]: I I believe it's going to be in the next couple weeks. Um, once we get the geotech, we'll be able to lay out and design the foundation. Um, and then once we have the foundation design, we can do the structural design, the connection of the columns to the to the slab or the footing. And uh once [1:20:47, 1:20:58]: Once that's done, we we anticipate having this out to bid sometime early in the first quarter with a completion date of uh around the first of the following year, 2023. [1:21:01, 1:21:02]: All right. [1:21:05, 1:21:15]: So the the next project is the 2021 water service line replacement. Um I don't know if you recall, this project was actually bid out. [1:21:15, 1:21:35]: Um, I believe it was in 2018, and uh there was not sufficient funding for that project, so it was shelved. Um the city came back and asked us to revisit this. We looked at that, they identified some additional areas with frequent leaks and uh issues that were causing operations. [1:21:35, 1:21:55]: Operators to go out after hours and have to replace service lines and interrupt service of the ratepayers. And so we consolidated that and have a design. We have construction plans and specifications ready to bid, but we actually included this project in the ARPA app. [1:21:55, 1:22:03]: application. And so we're on hold until we get um confirmation on funding from ARPA. [1:22:05, 1:22:10]: Okay, Mr. Wiggins, uh this is covered under our funding, correct? [1:22:10, 1:22:10]: No problem. [1:22:11, 1:22:11]: All right. [1:22:12, 1:22:14]: Yeah, a l a l a lot of these projects here. [1:22:15, 1:22:17]: uh wooden source [1:22:17, 1:22:19]: It's gonna be covered by Opera Phones. [1:22:20, 1:22:26]: Yeah, that's mayor. Yeah, I was thinking we had the funds already for this, I thought already. Some of those funds anyway. [1:22:27, 1:22:27]: Yeah, mayor. [1:22:28, 1:22:30]: Yeah, we have opera phones written. [1:22:30, 1:22:32]: Okay. To use. Yeah. [1:22:33, 1:22:37]: We have funds, proper funds to use for this right now. Is that correct? [1:22:38, 1:22:43]: Yes, um death is putting putting putting putting stuff in as they come in. [1:22:45, 1:22:57]: Mr. Mayor, this is Dash's this project is part of, you remember a couple of weeks ago, the last meeting we submitted that letter to go out to additional ARPA funding the governor had. Right. [1:22:57, 1:22:59]: The part of that governor's opera. [1:22:59, 1:23:00]: Okay. [1:23:01, 1:23:05]: All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you. That's what I needed then. Mirapal Tim, you ask something, sir? [1:23:07, 1:23:08]: You answered it. Thank you. [1:23:08, 1:23:10]: Okay, good deal. Here we go. [1:23:11, 1:23:12]: All right, thank you. Um [1:23:12, 1:23:16]: Mr Mr Pettin, if I've g got pronounced please continue. [1:23:17, 1:23:37]: Yes, sir. So the the next project is is um the 2021 water system improvements. I'm mentioned that briefly earlier. We had identified some some uh areas in the distribution system that we felt like could be improved to um to help the city's resilience in the system. Um [1:23:37, 1:23:54]: And so what the city did is they authorized us to move forward with design. We're at approximately 80, we're actually closer to 90% complete with the design right now. And similar to the water service line replacement, we're we're [1:23:54, 1:24:01]: fundamentally on hold for bidding until we get notification on the um the state governor's ARPA funding. [1:24:02, 1:24:03]: Okay, thank you. [1:24:05, 1:24:17]: The next project is the GIS program for water and sanitary sewer. We've actually been in the field collecting data the last few weeks. [1:24:17, 1:24:37]: They've been uh they've been actively working on the w the water and the wastewater. So they're not just isolated on one at this point. So um I do not have a tally of how many points they've collected to date, but I believe that they're about 20% complete right now. We we uh anticipate. [1:24:37, 1:24:40]: having all of this complete. [1:24:40, 1:24:44]: Early to mid March of of uh twenty twenty two. [1:24:45, 1:24:46]: Okay, thank you. [1:24:48, 1:25:08]: Uh the Waterway Memorial Park and Pine View lift stations, uh, these are reabutations of all three of those lift stations. Um, it also includes the replacement of the Waterway and the Pine View Force lanes. Um, we're approximately 40% complete as a whole. [1:25:08, 1:25:28]: We're a lot further along with Waterway and Memorial Park. If you will recall, the Pineview Lyft station was added later. And so we're we're not quite as far along with Pine View as we are with Walterway and Memorial Park, but we are as a whole probably around 40%. [1:25:28, 1:25:29]: Mm-hmm. [1:25:30, 1:25:50]: The uh the force main, the Walter Way Force main is is 30 percent complete in design. The Pine View um surveyors were on site the week before Thanksgiving. They started surveying that. And so as soon as we get that survey information, we will uh we'll be able to finish up the design on that and [1:25:49, 1:26:00]: continue to move forward. So we're uh we're looking at getting this one out to bid sometime in the first quarter of March and and possibly April. [1:26:02, 1:26:02]: All right, sir. Thank you. [1:26:04, 1:26:24]: Uh 2021 wastewater treatment plant improvement. So this was uh this was not a design project yet. We uh we did some preliminary engineering evaluating some options to uh improve operations at the wastewater treatment plant, particularly the influent pump station and the the [1:26:24, 1:26:44]: Blowers that uh provide oxygen to the digesters. And so we are approximately 80% complete. We actually visited the locust grove wastewater treatment plant yesterday with the operators and the sewer superintendent, and uh we looked at a uh installation. [1:26:44, 1:26:57]: application of some blowers that uh that we may possibly use for this project. So now that that um that visit's complete, we'll have a report ready and submitted to uh [1:26:57, 1:27:04]: to the city around the end of the year and then hope to move into design sometime in the first first of next year. [1:27:07, 1:27:07]: All right. [1:27:09, 1:27:15]: Uh North Bridge Station Sanitary Sewer Real Rehabilitation. This sewer um [1:27:15, 1:27:35]: Sewer line is similar to in condition to the Birch Street sewer line that that's uh getting ready to go into construction. And so um right now we're about 90% complete with the survey. I actually uh I looked at a survey file earlier today. We need a few more points. Um [1:27:35, 1:27:55]: The surveyor was on site today, and I think he may be out there a couple days though later this week. And so once we get that, we'll be able to hit that head on with design. Um, one one thing of note, this is a a pretty significant rehabilitation project, and so the construction time is extended on this, and it's it's reflecting. [1:27:55, 1:28:07]: reflective if if you look at the anticipated completion date over here of September 1st, 2023, there's a pretty significant construction period for that project. [1:28:09, 1:28:12]: Yeah. Okay. Thank you. [1:28:14, 1:28:34]: The uh the last project is the sewer manhole rehabilitation. Our our scope of work was to provide permitting through uh GDOT. And so that was completed. Our GUPS permit was uh authorized back in September 20th, 2021. And so at this point. [1:28:34, 1:28:38]: point we're waiting further instruction from the city as needed. [1:28:40, 1:28:45]: When you say further instruction, I'm I'm I'm maybe I'm dumbfounded here. What what what do you need what else you need from us in this aspect? [1:28:45, 1:28:52]: It i if we can provide assistance on any other aspect of the rehabilitation of those manholes. Um [1:28:52, 1:29:06]: we we would be ready to do that. So but at this point we've we've provided the permit and uh I believe the the city has hired the annual contractor to complete that work. So if they run into any issue that they have questions on, we we would be ready to assist. [1:29:07, 1:29:11]: Okay. Mr. Aaron, can you uh expound any further on this particular item? [1:29:12, 1:29:15]: This is the project that council approved. [1:29:15, 1:29:19]: I guess about two months ago for site engineering to go in a rehab. [1:29:19, 1:29:22]: The manholes that are like on North Henry Boulevard and [1:29:23, 1:29:23]: Okay. [1:29:23, 1:29:28]: So this is a project that's ongoing and if they run into anything. [1:29:28, 1:29:30]: out of the ordinary then. [1:29:30, 1:29:35]: Carter and Sluke will provide assistance on how to remedy that situation. Okay, good deal. Good deal. [1:29:37, 1:29:45]: Okay. Uh uh thank you, uh Mr. Pedden. Appreciate that. It's Council, any other question for yeah, then uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead sir. [1:29:45, 1:29:48]: Uh m Mr. Aaron, um [1:29:48, 1:29:51]: Not necessarily tonight. Um [1:29:52, 1:29:58]: I'd like to reach out to you or you can reach out to me, the the manhole that's on um North Henry. [1:29:58, 1:30:04]: Uh there are a number of them and if I remember correctly, there was some discussion about [1:30:04, 1:30:07]: Um responsibility of those. [1:30:08, 1:30:12]: Um, I'd like to reserve uh the opportunity to speak to you about [1:30:13, 1:30:13]: Um [1:30:14, 1:30:17]: All of the man holes on North Hinder know. [1:30:17, 1:30:19]: You indicated before. [1:30:19, 1:30:22]: That many of these manhole covers were [1:30:22, 1:30:26]: Uh outside of the uh North Henry. [1:30:26, 1:30:29]: uh parameters. So I'd like to get back with you. [1:30:29, 1:30:30]: Give me um [1:30:31, 1:30:36]: a listing of of of those and I I do recall some of those in some of the other subdivisions. [1:30:37, 1:30:40]: My concern though is with all of the ones that's on North Henry. [1:30:41, 1:30:45]: And I'm not sure if if all of those is going to be taken care of. [1:30:45, 1:30:48]: Uh my memory somewhat [1:30:48, 1:30:52]: Think that some of those manholds on North Henry. [1:30:52, 1:30:56]: uh was not included uh i in the scope um [1:30:56, 1:30:58]: Am I am I misinformed? [1:30:59, 1:31:11]: Well, there are some manholes that are not City of Stockbridge manhole. They might be ATT vault or some other utility, but the city is taking care of all the ones that are the city's responsibility that belong to the sewer system. [1:31:12, 1:31:17]: Okay, so with that being the answer, so what are the what are we doing? [1:31:18, 1:31:25]: to communicate with those other entities to make sure that um all of the manholes are are being taken care of. [1:31:28, 1:31:29]: Well [1:31:29, 1:31:33]: I don't know if we have contacted those entities directly, but we can. [1:31:34, 1:31:42]: Like I said, we can only repair our manholes. We can't do anything with theirs, but we'll definitely reach out to GDOT and those other entities. [1:31:42, 1:31:45]: And and Mr. Aaron, and the reason I say that. [1:31:45, 1:31:47]: When when when when pr when when [1:31:47, 1:31:50]: Vehicles and citizens are traveling not in [1:31:51, 1:31:54]: They don't get in c they don't get caught up in who they belong to. [1:31:55, 1:31:58]: They did they just know that they need to be repaired and so [1:31:59, 1:32:03]: We would think that that the council and the city would be proactive. [1:32:04, 1:32:20]: just to make sure it gets done. And so that would be my recommendation. And I'm only just one person, but it just needs to happen. Communication needs to go forward to make sure that all of the manholes covers on North Henry Boulevard are raised because [1:32:21, 1:32:28]: Citizens don't understand that they just know when their cars go up and down, it's you know, the wearing chair on their ties in their vehicle. [1:32:28, 1:32:30]: And it just it's just unpleasant. [1:32:30, 1:32:33]: And and it it it all goes back into [1:32:34, 1:32:40]: What we're trying to enhance the quality of life for citizens here in the city of Stockbridge. So [1:32:40, 1:32:50]: Uh the other council member can sort of weigh in on that, but I just think that somehow, somehow, communication needs to be done so we can make sure that all of the manhole covers are taken care of. [1:32:50, 1:32:51]: Oh no, Henry. [1:32:52, 1:32:52]: Mm-hmm. [1:32:53, 1:32:54]: You go right ahead, sir, please. [1:32:54, 1:32:59]: Yeah, here here to that man. I just did the obstacle course yesterday. [1:32:59, 1:33:02]: Trying to dodge the potholes on North Henry Boulevard. [1:33:02, 1:33:06]: And you're right, Councilman Thomas. The citizens just want to get it fixed. So please [1:33:07, 1:33:10]: uh reach out to ATT or any other entity to get [1:33:10, 1:33:14]: uh this problem fixed and let's get this on the fast track. [1:33:14, 1:33:16]: To get the problem solved that we [1:33:16, 1:33:24]: uh we're responsible for literally yesterday I'm on this obstacle course just trying to dodge and trying to figure out when the next one's coming up. [1:33:24, 1:33:28]: So I know I'm not the only one. I hear this from citizens all the time. So [1:33:28, 1:33:29]: Move forward, please. [1:33:30, 1:33:33]: And and and Mayor, if I may, we we just won't [1:33:33, 1:33:35]: We want the city to be proactive. [1:33:36, 1:33:37]: Um [1:33:37, 1:33:57]: You know, I hate to have to come back and and ask and and and suggest. Let's just be proactive. If if there's a problem, let's get it done. Uh if we have to reach out to other uh entities to get it done, let's be let's be pro-thinking, uh moving forward just to get it done. [1:33:57, 1:34:00]: This is something that should have just just happened anyway. [1:34:02, 1:34:02]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:34:03, 1:34:05]: Okay, no problem. Any other council comments thus far? [1:34:08, 1:34:09]: Is the patent anything else, sir? [1:34:10, 1:34:10]: You know? [1:34:11, 1:34:13]: No no, sir. Thank y'all for your time tonight. [1:34:13, 1:34:18]: Thank thank you, sir. Appreciate it. You can you're welcome to stay as long as you like. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. [1:34:19, 1:34:23]: Kekin Wood, updating stats timeline. Carl, please. [1:34:24, 1:34:29]: Evening mayor and council. I want to share my screen here. [1:34:30, 1:34:30]: Uh [1:34:34, 1:34:41]: Let me know when you see my screen. We we see projects uh the summary update. We see that now. Thank you very much. Okay. [1:34:42, 1:34:49]: Uh so and Heather Hubble is uh with us tonight also. We're gonna kind of tag team some of these things and she's got a [1:34:49, 1:34:53]: An in depth presentation on the Cultural Arts Center, which we'll get to in a minute. [1:34:54, 1:34:56]: I wanted to start with [1:34:56, 1:34:59]: uh the amphitheater and let you know where we're at on that. [1:35:00, 1:35:10]: Uh first of all, is the is this print large enough or do I need to expand it anymore? Just a little bit, sir. Probably be good. Yeah, that's that's probably good right there. [1:35:11, 1:35:11]: All right. [1:35:14, 1:35:34]: Okay, um so we all know the construction is complete. We've completed the punch list and the contractor has submitted all the closed out documents to the city. Uh really the last piece that remains as far as the contractor is concerned um in in completing [1:35:34, 1:35:35]: News. [1:35:35, 1:35:43]: uh obligations is to get a certificate of completion on the phase two parking. And I will talk about that in a minute as to why that's not yet obtained. [1:35:44, 1:35:47]: uh on the financial status um [1:35:48, 1:36:03]: We're we're still holding retainage on the contractor, five percent of the value of this contract, which is about a million dollars. Uh he's the contractor has asked for reduction under this and this will be under consideration this week in discussions with the uh city staff. [1:36:04, 1:36:05]: Um [1:36:05, 1:36:13]: Certainly I think uh some some retainage reduction would be in order. We just need to decide on uh exactly what would be appropriate. [1:36:14, 1:36:28]: Um and then there were several changes, uh scope changes near the end of the project uh that we've not yet finalized the cost with a contractor. We've been a little bit back and forth on a few things. [1:36:28, 1:36:35]: Uh we have a meeting set up uh with him Friday of this week to bring this to a conclusion. [1:36:35, 1:36:55]: uh and and get these uh uh change order amounts agreed to and uh and we'll be able to finalize the total contract amount. All of these are within the project uh budget. Uh it's within the the um uh funding that was approved, revised funding that was approved. [1:36:55, 1:36:59]: uh last February. So this is strictly kind of an internal [1:37:00, 1:37:05]: uh finalization of some of these minor changes that occurred. [1:37:06, 1:37:15]: Okay, Carl, scoop excuse me for a second, Carl. When you say contractor, are you referring to H J. Russell contractor? H J. Russell, yes. Okay. All right. Just want to make sure I understood. Thank you very much. No problem. [1:37:15, 1:37:25]: Uh so we have three additional considerations on the project that would be um that would not be able to fall within the [1:37:25, 1:37:27]: Approved project budget. [1:37:27, 1:37:33]: Uh so I want to kind of briefly touch on these and where we're at with those. Um we have been contemplating [1:37:34, 1:37:39]: uh adding car charging stations to the uh in the parking lot um [1:37:39, 1:37:41]: And we have I have [1:37:41, 1:37:45]: Obtained the costing on that and then given that to [1:37:45, 1:37:51]: Um, to Miss Johnson, I think she's going to bring that up in a future meeting for approval. [1:37:52, 1:37:52]: Um [1:37:53, 1:37:58]: The the the good thing about this car charging project, if you move forward with it. [1:37:58, 1:38:09]: Um the the actual infrastructure, which is the uh uh all the electrical, it's the the the transformer of the underground cables out to the car charging station. [1:38:10, 1:38:17]: Uh will be done at no charge to the city through Georgia Power. They have a uh program called the Make Ready Program where they [1:38:17, 1:38:34]: uh do all that infrastructure work free of charge. Um we do have to sign an agreement with them and I've given that to to Ms. Johnson to um uh to consider that uh and get that work going. So even if you don't elect to approve [1:38:34, 1:38:37]: The installing the car charging stations. [1:38:37, 1:38:45]: Certainly you would not want to miss the opportunity to get the infrastructure put in at no at no charge by George Power. So [1:38:45, 1:38:55]: Uh the car charging stations, there'll be uh what we call dual point stations. There are five stations. Each station will have two charging points, so you'll have a total of 10 charging points. [1:38:56, 1:39:00]: uh the cost of that was a little over sixty thousand dollars [1:39:00, 1:39:06]: Uh that should be coming up um to uh to city council on a future meeting for approval. [1:39:07, 1:39:09]: Say sixteen thousand or sixty. [1:39:09, 1:39:13]: Sixty sixty six zero. [1:39:16, 1:39:36]: Uh the second item was uh another owner requested change. Uh there was a lightning strike earlier this year after the project was substantially complete, and there was uh some uh minor amount of components that had to be uh repaired. Uh so uh the project team was at [1:39:36, 1:39:56]: Has to look at the budgeting to add a lightning protection system to uh to the buildings. Um that study is still in the works, uh so we'll bring that up later. Uh, but that's not a small amount of money. Um, the first brush at looking at this. Uh [1:39:56, 1:40:01]: Uh if we just did a very comprehensive lightning protection system would have been [1:40:01, 1:40:12]: in the two hundred thousand dollar range, but there are some lesser scope uh considerations that might be effective. Um, or you just may choose not to do that at all. [1:40:12, 1:40:17]: Uh certainly lightning protection on low rise buildings uh is not. [1:40:17, 1:40:20]: A normal expense that's usually reserved for [1:40:21, 1:40:23]: uh mid rise, high rise buildings, but [1:40:23, 1:40:31]: Uh we just want to do all the due diligence that the city has asked for to get some budget numbers put together to see if the city wants to pursue that. [1:40:31, 1:40:51]: Carl, uh stand by please. Carl, uh, what does that entail? What what do you mean? Lightning protection, what does that mean? What what does that do? Sure, good question. Um, so if you probably have seen on some of the the taller buildings around town, uh little spikes sticking up around the edge of the roof, uh, those are lightning uh leaders. [1:40:51, 1:40:52]: Mm-hmm. [1:40:52, 1:41:12]: Uh they're tied into some cables that that ground um any kind of lightning strike uh to keep it from moving through the building and through through systems in the building and protects the building. Um so this would involve you can imagine going back and putting all of these little antennas around all these buildings. [1:41:12, 1:41:14]: And the stage and the whole bit. [1:41:14, 1:41:31]: uh not very sightly um would be very expensive and it's um you know it's gonna be up to uh to the city and city council as to whether they want to pursue that. Um but the lightning damage I think it was a right around twelve thousand dollars of some [1:41:32, 1:41:45]: equipment that needed to be replaced. A lightning protection system, a full bore, over$200,000. It's just gonna be a kind of a risk assessment as to whether or not you would want to proceed with that. [1:41:46, 1:41:50]: Okay. Coun Councilwoman Barber, you had your hand up? [1:41:51, 1:41:55]: No, um Mr. Trevithon actually answered my question. Thank you. [1:41:55, 1:41:57]: Okay, uh Mayor Protam, go ahead, please. [1:41:58, 1:42:05]: Yeah, I I certainly would not want to do that. I think the issue that if you look at like the tall building, the skyscrapers in the city. [1:42:06, 1:42:09]: Those buildings have uh those systems installed. I think [1:42:09, 1:42:12]: For us, this is a outside building and [1:42:12, 1:42:22]: God forbid something did happen. Man,$200,000. I think we could cover it. So I I don't think that would be a wise investment for us to do that. [1:42:25, 1:42:26]: Okay, yeah. [1:42:27, 1:42:32]: Because I mean the damage really would come in the fact that there would be some type of fire or whatever. This building [1:42:32, 1:42:36]: It's not enclosed. We don't have a roof on it. That kind of thing. [1:42:39, 1:42:48]: Well, I'd like to ask Mr. Trevadon, um, do you know specifically what damage was caused earlier this year as a result of this lightning strike? This is the first I'm hearing about it. [1:42:49, 1:42:59]: Uh yeah, it was just uh some equipment. Um I think we're a little bit related to the fire alarm. I think there was some some damage to the fire alarm panel that was replaced. Um [1:42:59, 1:43:04]: I'm trying to recall now it was more equipment related. Um [1:43:04, 1:43:05]: It um [1:43:06, 1:43:12]: You know, it's it's one of those things you may or may not ever get another lightning strike. You just don't know when, you don't know. [1:43:13, 1:43:22]: uh you know what the damage is gonna be. I I certainly would not expect a a fire. That's not what I would be concerned about. I would be concerned more uh lightning. [1:43:22, 1:43:30]: uh entering the building and running through uh uh power cabling or low voltage cabling and getting the equipment. [1:43:32, 1:43:33]: Okay. [1:43:34, 1:43:39]: Well if if the council would choose to relieve us of [1:43:40, 1:43:46]: continuing to explore this, that would be helpful tonight so that we don't waste more more time and effort on on this item. [1:43:47, 1:43:50]: All right. Well, all right, then uh [1:43:50, 1:43:53]: Councilman Thomas, what are your thoughts then about that? [1:43:56, 1:44:01]: It it it does um create some concern, as you said, Carl. [1:44:02, 1:44:04]: You don't know when, but if it does. [1:44:05, 1:44:06]: uh how much damage [1:44:07, 1:44:14]: So um I'm sort of just in you know in between uh as far as uh a yeah or a nay. [1:44:14, 1:44:15]: Um [1:44:16, 1:44:20]: I I'm just I'm just not sure. I would hate for something to happen. [1:44:21, 1:44:22]: Um [1:44:22, 1:44:32]: total system goes down, especially if if you know, we talk about the amphitheater and this happens say a week before [1:44:33, 1:44:35]: uh a schedule event [1:44:36, 1:44:37]: And we cannot go forward. [1:44:38, 1:44:39]: Um [1:44:39, 1:44:42]: That's what sort of just running through my mind, but [1:44:43, 1:44:44]: I really don't have an answer, Mayor. [1:44:45, 1:44:48]: All right. Council uh Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [1:44:48, 1:44:53]: So any damage would it not be covered our insurance? [1:44:54, 1:45:04]: I I do believe that damage um was submitted to to your insurance carrier. I'm kinda out of the loop once that happens, so I don't know if that's been paid or not. [1:45:05, 1:45:07]: Okay, Miss Um [1:45:07, 1:45:08]: This holiday. [1:45:09, 1:45:09]: Um [1:45:10, 1:45:14]: Do you recall submitting something like this to the insurance company? [1:45:15, 1:45:16]: I did not. [1:45:17, 1:45:23]: It did not come through the clerk's office to submit a claim. It may have been done through the city manager's office, but I did not. [1:45:23, 1:45:26]: Thank you. Mr. Trevithan, so [1:45:27, 1:45:32]: So any damage um that would be as a result to the lightning strike. [1:45:33, 1:45:36]: Um, we could use our insurance to cover. [1:45:36, 1:45:38]: Um repair costs. [1:45:38, 1:45:39]: Correct. [1:45:39, 1:45:50]: I I think that would be a question for your insurance carrier to make sure that you know you have that coverage that you that you're looking for. So I think it would be worth uh reviewing that with your insurance carrier. [1:45:50, 1:45:51]: Um [1:45:51, 1:45:54]: Uh I and then going back to some to [1:45:54, 1:45:57]: Tag on to Miss Holiday's response that did [1:45:57, 1:46:07]: uh occur uh when Mr. Knight was a city manager, I think he would have um initiated submitting that that claim to your insurance carrier. [1:46:08, 1:46:09]: Okay. Thank you. [1:46:09, 1:46:14]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, sir. Uh Carl, how how long did it take to to repair the damage? [1:46:16, 1:46:17]: I think it [1:46:18, 1:46:18]: So [1:46:19, 1:46:21]: I I'd have to ask the um [1:46:21, 1:46:31]: Uh Kurt with the contractor with H J Russell as he did that. It did not take very long. I would say one to two weeks, all the components were back uh in operational. [1:46:32, 1:46:36]: And see and that and that's my concern when you say one or two weeks. [1:46:36, 1:46:37]: Um [1:46:38, 1:46:42]: It could happen a week out before a major event, but [1:46:42, 1:46:43]: Um [1:46:43, 1:46:46]: You know, uh that that's that's God's work, so [1:46:47, 1:46:54]: Um, I yield back, ma'am. I just want to know uh I'm I'm I would was that considered a minor [1:46:56, 1:46:57]: Fix [1:46:58, 1:46:59]: Or destruction? [1:46:59, 1:47:00]: Ha ha [1:47:00, 1:47:01]: Um [1:47:04, 1:47:15]: I I'm I'm not sure how to really categorize it. Um I think the things that took the longest to get replaced, there were some lights on exterior lights that were affected and they had to be reordered. [1:47:15, 1:47:23]: uh the components of some of the um uh uh of the equipment um they were repaired very rather quickly so [1:47:24, 1:47:30]: You know, it just depends on what a lightning strike does and what it affects as to whether or not it actually makes [1:47:31, 1:47:39]: would make the amphitheater unusable, or if it's just some cases where, you know, certain things aren't operating, but you know, the show goes on. So [1:47:39, 1:47:44]: And we don't know until it happens, right? We don't know until it happens if it ever happens. So [1:47:44, 1:47:45]: Yeah. [1:47:45, 1:47:50]: All right, thank you, sir. Well, Councilwoman Gantt, do you have any comments on this issue at all? [1:47:52, 1:47:53]: No, I don't. [1:47:54, 1:47:57]: Okay, so call asked for potential relief. [1:47:57, 1:48:07]: of this potentially. So I just want to know whether or not we're willing to give him the relief and not pursue this or whether or not do you still want him to pursue this and use manpower to do this and come back with some type of uh [1:48:08, 1:48:09]: presentation with the cost factor. [1:48:12, 1:48:13]: Just asking for your thoughts, folks. [1:48:14, 1:48:16]: Well, I would like to um [1:48:17, 1:48:25]: See if you, mayor, can test staff with uh contacting the insurance company to see if something like this would be covered. [1:48:25, 1:48:26]: Um and [1:48:27, 1:48:31]: Uh, if not, then I can make a better decision once I know. [1:48:32, 1:48:34]: What the insurance company says. [1:48:34, 1:48:35]: Um [1:48:35, 1:48:36]: Mayor. [1:48:36, 1:48:37]: Yes, ma'am. [1:48:37, 1:48:39]: I agree with Councilwoman Barber on that. [1:48:40, 1:48:41]: Um I think that [1:48:41, 1:48:43]: That would be smart and wise. I think we [1:48:44, 1:48:49]: probably need to reach out to Mr. Knight and and find out what did he do because we didn't receive notice of this. [1:48:50, 1:49:00]: Well, I have to admit I I this is new to me as well. Okay. Uh well, Miss Holiday, you you hear the request. I would imagine you'll be able to take care of this and get look get some idea whether or not this is covered in our insurance. [1:49:01, 1:49:02]: That's great. [1:49:02, 1:49:03]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. [1:49:04, 1:49:11]: On that and we'll reach out, uh we'll try to figure out something from uh what uh what uh Knight might have done with this in this aspect as well. [1:49:11, 1:49:12]: Um [1:49:12, 1:49:14]: Call, please continue. [1:49:14, 1:49:22]: All right, thank you. Uh the third consideration we'll talk about tonight, and this has to do with why the uh certificate of completion is not yet issued. [1:49:22, 1:49:25]: I think probably some of you may know that there is some [1:49:25, 1:49:36]: uh erosion issues in one of the detention ponds um that uh occurred earlier in the year from a from a very heavy unusual rain event. [1:49:36, 1:49:56]: Um as we have been uh as a team has been assessing that and looking at uh ways to resolve that that issue, uh we've come across some additional concerns regarding uh groundwater at that location and the cause that the groundwater is is [1:49:56, 1:49:58]: [6599.1, 6606.9]: Um so we've engaged the third party geotechnical firm, which is Atlas, who's been working on the project the whole time. [1:50:07, 1:50:12]: Uh, to do some groundwater uh monitoring and issue a report. [1:50:12, 1:50:16]: Expecting that report to come either this week or early next week. [1:50:16, 1:50:19]: And then the designers can finalize [1:50:20, 1:50:31]: uh the enhancements that are gonna need to be done to detention fund to the detention fund to handle these issues. Um it certainly is going to require [1:50:31, 1:50:36]: uh modifications to the spillway between the upper pond and the middle pond. [1:50:37, 1:50:42]: Uh and it's certainly going to require some bank stabilization around the middle pond. [1:50:43, 1:50:51]: Um we had to do something similar to that during the course of the project to the lower pond that's closer to Lee Street because of groundwater issues. [1:50:52, 1:50:57]: And we had to do some stabilization there. So it looks like we're headed towards that same solution. [1:50:58, 1:51:00]: uh for this pond so [1:51:00, 1:51:02]: Uh, we're a couple of weeks away from [1:51:03, 1:51:03]: Um [1:51:04, 1:51:12]: getting that information put together and getting the uh the designers an opportunity to finalize their recommendations for [1:51:13, 1:51:16]: uh enhancements or alterations to that pawn. [1:51:16, 1:51:36]: Uh the issue will be is that there um uh that there's not going to be enough money in the balance of the project, the contingency that we're working under uh to fund this based on some of the preliminary numbers that that I've um have have received. So we'll need to be uh in [1:51:36, 1:51:46]: In addition to looking at the resolution, looking at the funding source, but I do want to move this as quickly as we can because we we need to get these enhancements done. [1:51:47, 1:51:53]: uh so that we don't continue to have problems with this pond and and uh create additional costs later on. [1:51:54, 1:52:07]: Well Carl, I would Carl, I would think that wouldn't this be something that would be on the contractor and not on the city if this is something that wasn't done properly in the first place? Why would we have to pay for something for a mistake if it's wasn't done properly initially? [1:52:07, 1:52:11]: Certainly a good question. That you know, that's the first thing that we were looking at when this happened. [1:52:12, 1:52:19]: Um, you know, the contractor built the spillway according to designer's uh design. [1:52:19, 1:52:27]: Um I've been back through the uh the test reports from Atlas to make sure that all of the compaction was properly done. [1:52:28, 1:52:35]: Uh and so yet as to yet I've not found any reason to believe that that the contractor didn't build it correctly. [1:52:35, 1:52:41]: Uh but I don't I'm not really ready yet to speculate on on any uh end game with this. I think [1:52:41, 1:52:42]: We really need to [1:52:43, 1:52:55]: We we do know we need to do something at in addition to what was designed there to handle these issues. Certainly the groundwater issue if it is not um a contractor fault. That's an an [1:52:55, 1:53:12]: Uh you know that that is a condition of the ground that um uh that was not anticipated. So what I would say tonight um without getting into having to speculate on how this ends up is let's I want to finish up with the groundwater report. I want the [1:53:12, 1:53:20]: Designers to uh finalize uh what they recommend to be done to the fund in addition to what was designed before. [1:53:20, 1:53:25]: Um and get the cost of that and and move forward with that. [1:53:25, 1:53:34]: Um and um and try to bring at least get get the remediation done so that we don't have uh continued erosion issues there. [1:53:35, 1:53:43]: But I certainly don't right now I do not believe that the contractor failed to do anything that wasn't that he wasn't asked to do according to the design. [1:53:45, 1:53:46]: All right, so thank you. [1:53:46, 1:53:48]: Any questions, counsel for Carl? [1:53:49, 1:53:50]: Yes, Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:53:50, 1:53:56]: Mr. Trevathan, so Adalyst, are they a subcontractor of H J Russell? [1:53:57, 1:54:10]: No, Atlas, uh they were formerly called Piedmont. Uh they are the third party. Uh they did the geotechnical and the materials testing on the project. They're hired directly by the city as a third party um [1:54:11, 1:54:13]: Materials uh inspector. [1:54:13, 1:54:18]: Uh so they work separately from the contractor and they work separately from [1:54:18, 1:54:20]: The designers that work direct for the city. [1:54:21, 1:54:23]: uh to to do these um [1:54:24, 1:54:26]: to do the scope that they're asked to do on the project. [1:54:26, 1:54:29]: Do you know if we have an existing contract with them? [1:54:29, 1:54:30]: Yes, you did. [1:54:30, 1:54:34]: Yes, there was a contract on the project for for them to perform. [1:54:34, 1:54:36]: Uh all the testing on the project. [1:54:37, 1:54:40]: It's still active, is what I mean. It is still active. [1:54:40, 1:54:40]: Okay. [1:54:41, 1:54:41]: Um [1:54:41, 1:54:42]: And that's separate. [1:54:43, 1:54:50]: That's a separate contract from this 5% retention that you're holding from HJ Russell, correct? [1:54:51, 1:54:55]: Um not really sure what you're asking. Um [1:54:55, 1:55:01]: Right now, you know, the project through the course of the project retention is held on contractor. [1:55:01, 1:55:07]: Um until the project is complete. Um, the project's not complete because of this. [1:55:08, 1:55:08]: Um [1:55:09, 1:55:16]: I think an a a a million dollar retention on it that's a little little large based on what we think the cost will be to uh [1:55:17, 1:55:19]: та то адрес деса. [1:55:19, 1:55:24]: I think we we can certainly entertain their request for retained reduction. [1:55:24, 1:55:25]: Um [1:55:26, 1:55:26]: But [1:55:28, 1:55:34]: So I'm not sure I'm asking your question, but uh I'm trying to really explain what the retaining is is really for. [1:55:35, 1:55:41]: Well, I want to make sure that the city's assets when it was turned over to us that it's fully operational. [1:55:42, 1:55:44]: And we don't have issues like this. [1:55:45, 1:55:45]: Correct. [1:55:45, 1:55:46]: For contractors. [1:55:47, 1:55:49]: And everyone else to walk away winning. [1:55:50, 1:55:52]: Good attention. [1:55:52, 1:55:58]: their consent contingency funds and they're just walking away. And now the city is having to [1:55:58, 1:55:59]: bear the cost of [1:56:00, 1:56:02]: fixing and resolving these issues. So [1:56:03, 1:56:05]: That's all I want to make sure that [1:56:05, 1:56:11]: those contractors who are directly responsible in working with us to resolve it if we have an active contract. [1:56:11, 1:56:12]: That [1:56:12, 1:56:16]: Right now is not the time for us to discuss reducing. [1:56:16, 1:56:22]: um any retainage feeds, but I understand Atlas is separate from HJ Russell. [1:56:23, 1:56:23]: Correct. [1:56:23, 1:56:24]: Okay. [1:56:25, 1:56:27]: Ms. Mirror. Yeah, go right here, sir, please. [1:56:27, 1:56:30]: Uh Mr. Trevathan, I I want to understand [1:56:31, 1:56:37]: Whether or not uh this was built to the standard of a hundred year flood or what standard was it built to? [1:56:38, 1:56:41]: 'Cause obviously I don't remember any type of [1:56:41, 1:56:46]: delus or or uh incredible flooding in this area that would have caused [1:56:46, 1:56:50]: uh this type of issue to uh [1:56:50, 1:56:58]: become forward. I mean, when was this hundred year flood of rain that we were supposed to have? Isn't it supposed to be built to that standard? [1:56:58, 1:57:18]: And uh I appreciate that question. Uh I have asked the designers to address their initial design and they uh that will be part of what uh what I will be putting together to send to uh uh to the city staff as far as the final resolution recommendations to this. So um we will I [1:57:18, 1:57:24]: Your question will be answered when when we finalize that report and get it sent to us to the city staff. [1:57:25, 1:57:26]: But it's a very fair question. [1:57:27, 1:57:30]: Okay, and also I've noticed that uh [1:57:30, 1:57:33]: The water levels are pretty low uh in those two. [1:57:34, 1:57:34]: Uh yeah. [1:57:35, 1:57:39]: Into those first two points, I know one of them's supposed to be a spillover. For example [1:57:39, 1:57:41]: I don't know if you're familiar with the [1:57:41, 1:57:45]: Big Springs uh project in McDon in McDonough. [1:57:45, 1:57:49]: It looks full all the time, even though it is a detention or retention fund. [1:57:50, 1:58:02]: It looks full all the time. The body of water looks more like a pond than it does a detention pond because it's not as sight it's not as beautiful as I thought it would have been because the water level is always [1:58:03, 1:58:05]: Extremely low instead of being [1:58:05, 1:58:08]: Uh looking like a pond or a lake. [1:58:08, 1:58:25]: Right. Um, and you're correct. Um the con uh H J Russell has lowered and and is pumping water out of the upper pond so that we don't continue to have erosion on that spillway and make that situation worse until we get the final resolution. So [1:58:25, 1:58:31]: Those pods are intentionally drawn down right now until we can get this situation resolved. [1:58:31, 1:58:36]: Well, I mean, even before they started to draw down, I'm just saying they never really looked [1:58:36, 1:58:55]: uh you know, like a body of water that would be very appealing. It just they always look kind of low. I don't know was there a leak something that was going on previous to that, cause I I just I certainly would like to see as we're doing this project for it to look more wholesome and to look full, the pond to look full with the fountain in there. [1:58:55, 1:58:57]: uh on an ongoing basis when the project is finished. [1:58:59, 1:59:09]: Um we once we get the water levels back up to where they're supposed to be, I think we can evaluate that. I mean, I did see the water levels prior to us drawing them down. [1:59:09, 1:59:14]: Um we're still in construction so we're still doing a lot of landscaping work. [1:59:14, 1:59:20]: the water wasn't really clear because things weren't finished. [1:59:20, 1:59:32]: But I think if if there is a concern about that, um, you know, I can take that back to the civil engineer record and see if he can maybe make a a presentation to you on that. Um [1:59:32, 1:59:35]: at a future meeting to to kind of explain what their [1:59:36, 1:59:37]: uh design intent. [1:59:38, 1:59:39]: should result. [1:59:41, 1:59:42]: Okay, thank you. [1:59:43, 1:59:46]: Any other comments uh for Carl Council? [1:59:47, 1:59:48]: Concerns that [1:59:48, 1:59:50]: Uh, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:59:50, 1:59:54]: Uh uh Carl, I wanted to go back to the um [1:59:55, 2:00:08]: charging stations and I know you mentioned you quoted a sixty uh sixty thousand dollars. Did you indicate how many stations would that be um in this area? How many how many stations would that be? [2:00:08, 2:00:09]: Yes, um [2:00:09, 2:00:27]: I did. Uh there's there'll be five, what we call dual point stations. There's five of those. Each station has two charging points. So five times two is ten. There'll be ten actual charging points. Um and certainly you can choose to put all of those in or [2:00:28, 2:00:32]: Maybe you choose to put some of those in at this time. So it'll be it'll really be a [2:00:33, 2:00:37]: A question that will come up once this bit gets brought up to you for approval. [2:00:38, 2:00:41]: And and that is at a cost of uh sixty thousand. [2:00:41, 2:00:46]: Correct. If you do all all five of the stations, that will result in ten charging points. [2:00:49, 2:00:58]: And these, by the way, these car charging stations are um they're not what you would get in your house that takes you all night to charge. These charge a car. [2:00:58, 2:01:04]: uh in in a matter of just a couple of hours. So they are a a higher level [2:01:04, 2:01:07]: uh charging station than what you would find at at your house. [2:01:08, 2:01:10]: Thank you, sir. [2:01:11, 2:01:11]: Yeah, we [2:01:12, 2:01:15]: Anything else? You have for time, you have something else now? [2:01:15, 2:01:23]: Yeah, r very quickly. In the end, uh I I think that's the point is to draw more folk downtown. But the very best part of this is [2:01:24, 2:01:29]: The infrastructure bill contains money for electric car charging and electric stations. [2:01:29, 2:01:31]: So let's move in that direction. [2:01:31, 2:01:36]: uh in those funds being available in the infrastructure bill that's coming. [2:01:37, 2:01:38]: Mm-hmm. [2:01:38, 2:01:39]: Okay. That's right. [2:01:39, 2:01:40]: Casual Bottom. [2:01:41, 2:01:41]: You have a comment? [2:01:42, 2:01:45]: Oh no, I was echoing with Mayor Pro Tian Alexander. Okay. [2:01:46, 2:01:49]: If there's no other question, Mr. Trevitad. [2:01:50, 2:01:54]: How long does it take for them to install Denis charging stations? [2:01:55, 2:01:56]: Um [2:01:57, 2:02:03]: I would have to go back and look at that quote, but I think once you approve it, the actual stations um [2:02:06, 2:02:26]: I think it was six to eight weeks. That was I I tend to recall that was the the time frame I was discussing with with Mr. Knighton before. Um but that is of course that is dependent upon Georgia power getting the infrastructure in, which is a separate agreement that needs to be signed by the city to allow them to do it, even though it's at zero [2:02:26, 2:02:31]: zero cost, there is an agreement that has been sent that needs to be executed before [2:02:32, 2:02:40]: Um Georgia Power will move on their part. They've done the design work, but they have to uh they won't order the transformer until that agreement is signed. [2:02:41, 2:02:45]: Okay. Um do we know when that agreement is gonna be presented to the council? [2:02:46, 2:02:48]: Um I don't if [2:02:49, 2:02:55]: I I would have to defer that to Miss Johnson if if she's ready to bring that up or not. Um [2:02:55, 2:03:02]: I and and truly because it's a zero dollar thing, I I don't I'm not even sure if council needs to [2:03:03, 2:03:05]: Right has to vote on it, but you certainly could. [2:03:06, 2:03:08]: It could be something that maybe that could be done internally. [2:03:09, 2:03:11]: Right. I'll leave that to Mayor Ford. [2:03:11, 2:03:18]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. On that note, Carl, thank you for the presentation. Uh unless there's something else to mention, sir, we'll move on. [2:03:18, 2:03:22]: All right, uh so I'm gonna take you to the cultural arts center. Okay, uh [2:03:23, 2:03:25]: I think I would like for Heather [2:03:26, 2:03:37]: To do. She's got a little more deeper dive presentation to do tonight. And then we'll come back to this uh this project sheet and kind of go through the specifics on it. So Heather, if you are ready. [2:03:38, 2:03:40]: Uh I will stop sharing and you can take over. [2:03:41, 2:03:43]: Sure thing, thank you. [2:03:55, 2:03:57]: Uh hopefully you can see a [2:03:58, 2:04:01]: Um perspective of the uh art center. [2:04:01, 2:04:02]: On your screen. [2:04:02, 2:04:03]: We can. [2:04:05, 2:04:09]: Uh thank you for this time your time this evening. I am going to um [2:04:09, 2:04:17]: uh give you an overview of kind of where we where we're at with the art center um and then of course questions uh [2:04:17, 2:04:29]: as appropriate. Adam Williamson is on the phone with me uh tonight and he is going to be talking, he is a principal with TSW and he's going to be talking about the site component when we get to it. [2:04:30, 2:04:38]: But project status update. So we completed the schematic design set on November the 10th of this year. [2:04:39, 2:04:41]: Um that is in Miss Johnson's hand. [2:04:41, 2:04:43]: Uh as well as um [2:04:44, 2:04:46]: Stay shift Aaron's hands as well. [2:04:46, 2:04:47]: Um [2:04:48, 2:05:00]: That set, so we had concept previously, so now we have expanded the design set. So this is a a look at uh really starting to make the concept more real. [2:05:00, 2:05:08]: Um the schematic design set has ninety-seven pages in it, so it is much more extensive than what you've seen previously. [2:05:08, 2:05:12]: The goal of the set is to really advance the design. [2:05:13, 2:05:18]: as well as to facilitate detailed construction cost estimating. So [2:05:18, 2:05:32]: Up until before this set, we didn't have any engineers involved to actually start to design the systems and to get really accurate costing, we needed that interaction. So that's occurred with this set. [2:05:33, 2:05:37]: Um tonight we're going to talk about both uh [2:05:37, 2:05:38]: What the site? [2:05:38, 2:05:48]: has been updated to some of the building updates that have been done. And then we are going to give you a separate presentation on the interiors. [2:05:49, 2:05:49]: Um [2:05:50, 2:05:51]: In the near future. [2:05:53, 2:06:04]: Uh these are uh the entities that were involved with the schematic design set. So uh you know we had civil engineers, um MEP engineers. [2:06:05, 2:06:20]: structural engineers, interior designer, theater designer, the acoustician, all of those uh folks involved to make sure that we could get some really good feedback on um you know the vision for the amphet uh the vision for the art center. [2:06:23, 2:06:28]: Um this is the concept uh for the Art Center that was done previous to now. [2:06:29, 2:06:35]: um it was you know a quick uh look at you know what what was for the site [2:06:36, 2:06:38]: Uh but it wasn't completely flush out. [2:06:39, 2:06:51]: So there were things that we need to solve, and here are the main items that we need to solve in this schematic design set. So we need to make sure to adapt that concept, the land survey. [2:06:51, 2:06:59]: Prior, uh, we did not have that information, now we do. So we need to make all of that align and work uh in a realistic way. [2:07:00, 2:07:03]: Um we also had to focus on um [2:07:04, 2:07:19]: a desell lane. With the traffic that's going to be coming into the art center and the traffic on North Henry, we really needed to get this incorporated to the site. And so that started to affect the previous concept. [2:07:19, 2:07:21]: Um we also [2:07:21, 2:07:27]: really triggered that we needed to improve the drop-off sequence, the previous drop-off sequence. [2:07:27, 2:07:28]: And I'm gonna flip back real quick. [2:07:29, 2:07:33]: You can see you came off North Henry and then to drop off you had to make this [2:07:33, 2:07:41]: large circular motion around, which really isn't practical for the functionality of the art center. So we wanted to solve that. [2:07:43, 2:07:53]: Uh and then also uh we wanted to improve uh the green space that we were providing for this site. I'm gonna flip back one more time to the concept, the previous concept. [2:07:53, 2:08:01]: So the central green space that you can see was really surrounded by this loop. And so anyone who wanted to get to the green space. [2:08:01, 2:08:04]: Um, you know, had to cross traffic. [2:08:04, 2:08:06]: Uh and you know they're [2:08:07, 2:08:11]: Uh that makes a dangerous situation potentially for kids playing. [2:08:11, 2:08:14]: So we wanted to try to [2:08:14, 2:08:14]: Right. [2:08:15, 2:08:16]: Yeah. [2:08:16, 2:08:19]: work out that design solution. [2:08:23, 2:08:34]: So this is the updated site concept, and I'm gonna turn it over to Adam Williamson to kind of talk through how the site plan uh solves those different items. [2:08:35, 2:08:39]: Thanks, Heather. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Pleasure to be here. [2:08:39, 2:08:43]: So I'm gonna go high level on this. We'll start with the main parking lot. [2:08:44, 2:08:45]: adjacent to the stock bridge. [2:08:46, 2:08:46]: Art Center. [2:08:47, 2:08:50]: You know, we're trying to maximize the parking. [2:08:50, 2:08:52]: Um to the right there. [2:08:52, 2:08:58]: And then to the left you'll see on the other side of the art center is the staff parking lot. [2:08:58, 2:08:59]: The back of house. [2:09:00, 2:09:01]: Um loading. [2:09:02, 2:09:05]: And in the front piece you'll see the revised [2:09:05, 2:09:10]: design. We're gonna zoom into these and get into a little bit more detail next on the next slide. So this plan [2:09:11, 2:09:11]: It's roughly [2:09:12, 2:09:16]: About the same as we had previously, about two hundred and forty seven parking spaces. We know it's important. [2:09:16, 2:09:19]: to get as many sparking spaces as as we can [2:09:19, 2:09:22]: And so if we'll zoom in, Heather, next slide, please. [2:09:23, 2:09:26]: So we're zooming into the green space and and the front. [2:09:27, 2:09:28]: Of the building. [2:09:28, 2:09:29]: And so [2:09:29, 2:09:33]: You know, one of the other reasons we had to shift the driveway was that D sell link. [2:09:33, 2:09:39]: Um from um G Dot. So we pushed the the entry drive down where we could access the site. [2:09:40, 2:09:46]: Um again I do agree with Heather trying to minimize the conflicts with pedestrians if you have children out there. [2:09:46, 2:09:47]: This is a safer plant. [2:09:48, 2:09:50]: Um so you come into the side. [2:09:50, 2:09:53]: One of the big components was we wanted to create the axes. [2:09:53, 2:09:58]: to the front door so this this major thoroughfare [2:09:58, 2:09:59]: Which has water features. [2:10:00, 2:10:02]: Such as Runnels and um [2:10:03, 2:10:08]: some different elements in this area to draw your eye to the door and to be that central axis. [2:10:09, 2:10:15]: We also have um parking there. We also have some parallel parking adjacent to the park. [2:10:15, 2:10:17]: Which could accommodate food trucks. [2:10:17, 2:10:20]: For having a vent to activate the space. [2:10:21, 2:10:22]: We have um [2:10:22, 2:10:25]: One of the cool features we have is in the front there. [2:10:25, 2:10:31]: And you will we'll show you an example of that where we have the big letters for that would say stockbridge in the front. [2:10:32, 2:10:34]: And you know, that could be a an Instagram moment. [2:10:35, 2:10:43]: Um for for for some folks. Um we have some a lot of seating in this area, table locations, a tree bosque. [2:10:43, 2:10:45]: And really a hard walk. [2:10:45, 2:10:46]: To [2:10:46, 2:10:48]: To really bring [2:10:48, 2:10:50]: The idea the art into this space. [2:10:51, 2:10:57]: Um and the turnaround that we we've been working on, we want to make that more efficient, more safe. [2:10:57, 2:10:58]: So it's a one way street. [2:10:59, 2:11:01]: As you come in for the drop off. [2:11:02, 2:11:04]: And you could drop off right in front of the [2:11:04, 2:11:08]: Um front door, and then you could circle back around. [2:11:08, 2:11:11]: And then you could go back and park in in the large parking lot. [2:11:12, 2:11:16]: And we also see some opportunities in that in that central green space. [2:11:16, 2:11:18]: Of the turnaround to have art. [2:11:18, 2:11:19]: And um a water feature. [2:11:20, 2:11:22]: So if we go to the next slide. [2:11:24, 2:11:27]: So this shows you uh a little zoomed in. [2:11:27, 2:11:29]: Of the parking lot. [2:11:29, 2:11:40]: Again, we're trying to maximize that. We're trying to get pedestrian movements. You see some of the sidewalks at the top, the middle, and at the bottom that will feed you to the art center in a safe manner. [2:11:41, 2:11:43]: We also have another drop off. [2:11:44, 2:11:44]: Um [2:11:44, 2:11:45]: To the side there. [2:11:46, 2:11:48]: And we do have a large pedestrian plaza. [2:11:49, 2:11:50]: That we where people can [2:11:50, 2:11:53]: Come and meet and then ha have seating. [2:11:53, 2:11:56]: And more potential for art exhibits there. [2:11:58, 2:11:59]: Think we have one more slide. [2:12:02, 2:12:08]: And this is some of the examples, and we're we're still getting cost and and thinking about how exactly this works, but [2:12:09, 2:12:12]: The top left is the in the roundabout. We could have a [2:12:12, 2:12:14]: Ma water feature. [2:12:15, 2:12:24]: And the next it shows you a inverse infinity edge central channel where the water drains to the central and drops into a channel. [2:12:25, 2:12:29]: And then the next one shows you a reflecting pool with bubble fountains. [2:12:30, 2:12:31]: And the [2:12:31, 2:12:35]: This spells, I believe, Toledo, but you get you know, we we we would be spelling [2:12:35, 2:12:38]: Stockbridge, give you an example of that at the bottom left. [2:12:39, 2:12:41]: And then some of our ideas the next two. [2:12:42, 2:12:43]: Number is just some seeding. [2:12:43, 2:12:47]: And some angled seatings, just some examples of how we'd like to integrate the seating. [2:12:47, 2:12:48]: into the design. [2:12:52, 2:12:55]: Believe there's one more slide, Heather. Is that it? [2:12:57, 2:12:59]: I believe that is it. Um [2:13:00, 2:13:03]: Should we field questions for the site before we move to the building? [2:13:04, 2:13:07]: Sure, if there's any questions or comments, love to hear from you. [2:13:08, 2:13:28]: Yeah, I I I have to admit I'm I'm a little confused about some of the entryway. Uh the if you go back to the slide for the we showed the the central part of the green space in the entryway, and you talk about the drop-off area. Uh so so otherwise uh on North Henry uh North Henry Boulevard, there's only one one. [2:13:28, 2:13:32]: One way in, no uh not another sec uh another way out, or what? Now I'm kinda confused here. [2:13:33, 2:13:36]: Oh sorry, I didn't say say that very clearly. No, that's a two way [2:13:37, 2:13:43]: I'll ask it too, I got there. Okay. Coming in. It's just the one way like right in front where the drop off is. [2:13:43, 2:13:44]: Okay. [2:13:45, 2:13:46]: Everything else is two way. [2:13:46, 2:13:48]: Okay. Got it now. All right. Good question. [2:13:49, 2:13:50]: All right, I'm I'm good. [2:13:50, 2:13:51]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:13:52, 2:13:59]: You mentioned about having the stock bridge sign at the entrance. [2:13:59, 2:14:04]: With the pedestrian bridge a block away, I thought that I've seen um [2:14:05, 2:14:06]: designs uh [2:14:07, 2:14:09]: a potential pedestrian bridge with the same [2:14:10, 2:14:10]: Like [2:14:11, 2:14:12]: Lettering. [2:14:13, 2:14:14]: Would that be overkill? [2:14:17, 2:14:18]: I'm I'm not aware of that. Heather, were you? [2:14:19, 2:14:20]: Are you aware of that? [2:14:21, 2:14:22]: I'm not aware of it either. [2:14:22, 2:14:23]: Um [2:14:24, 2:14:30]: I think it would be overkill, so I would only do it in one location. Um the [2:14:31, 2:14:37]: thought of incorporating it here is that it becomes art when you become part of that sign. [2:14:37, 2:14:38]: Um [2:14:38, 2:14:41]: So that was the reason for incorporating it here. [2:14:41, 2:14:42]: Oh. [2:14:42, 2:14:47]: But you know, glad to remove that element if that is gonna be done in another location. [2:14:48, 2:14:51]: Well maybe um mayor Alexander. [2:14:52, 2:14:57]: The image that you've been showing of the pedestrian bridge that has stock bridge on it. [2:14:58, 2:14:59]: Was that a [2:15:00, 2:15:01]: Designed by [2:15:02, 2:15:12]: It it was in the RSVP plan uh for downtown over uh the track. So yes, that was uh that was incorporated in the downtown RSVP plan. [2:15:15, 2:15:19]: So I just don't need to have it in both places. Maybe [2:15:20, 2:15:22]: uh consider something else. [2:15:22, 2:15:23]: Right. [2:15:24, 2:15:30]: Okay. Yeah, we'll you know there's a lot of opportunities playing off the art, so that's good feedback. We'll we'll remove that from the plant. [2:15:32, 2:15:35]: Ms. Bar uh Ms uh Braggs, go ahead, please. [2:15:37, 2:15:39]: I was just going to mention that [2:15:39, 2:15:45]: Um these types of letters were proposed for um three potential locations. [2:15:46, 2:15:48]: One as was mentioned, um [2:15:49, 2:15:52]: by councilwoman barber on the pedestrian bridge. [2:15:53, 2:15:57]: And um counts mayor pro tem Alexander, but also [2:15:58, 2:16:00]: In the space that we [2:16:00, 2:16:02]: Main street calls. [2:16:02, 2:16:04]: The pecan grove. [2:16:04, 2:16:07]: That was another potential location. [2:16:07, 2:16:12]: But we're not necessarily adverse to the letters being placed at the cultural arts center. [2:16:13, 2:16:18]: But Main Street has proposed three locations for those letters. [2:16:19, 2:16:20]: Thank you. [2:16:22, 2:16:23]: You know, questions, council? [2:16:26, 2:16:28]: Okay, I I guess Heather, you can continue on. [2:16:29, 2:16:29]: Okay. [2:16:34, 2:16:40]: Um so these are the floor plans uh back in March uh twenty twenty-one. [2:16:40, 2:16:48]: Again, these were done prior to uh engineers coming in and influencing. Yes, I see a hand raised. [2:16:49, 2:16:49]: Okay. [2:16:50, 2:16:52]: Right. Okay, go ahead. I I don't see it. Who is that? [2:16:52, 2:16:56]: I apologize, Mayor Ford. This is Councilman Thomas. [2:16:56, 2:16:59]: Mrs. Hubble, how are you this afternoon or this evening? [2:17:00, 2:17:03]: Good. I hope you're doing well as well. Doing good as well. [2:17:03, 2:17:06]: I I apologize. I I wanted to [2:17:06, 2:17:07]: Have you two? [2:17:08, 2:17:10]: Highlight um [2:17:10, 2:17:14]: The entryway uh from Burke Street [2:17:15, 2:17:19]: I I have not I don't recall a lot of conversation about [2:17:19, 2:17:22]: how the entryway is going to look. [2:17:22, 2:17:25]: Uh coming in off of uh Berk Street. [2:17:26, 2:17:27]: And the parking [2:17:27, 2:17:29]: Uh that's on that end. [2:17:31, 2:17:32]: Can you share just [2:17:32, 2:17:34]: Some of that concept [2:17:37, 2:17:40]: Sure. Adam, would you like to cover that? [2:17:41, 2:17:49]: Sure. We I think what we're talking about doing on Burke Street is adding parallel parking on on the left side of Burke Street. [2:17:49, 2:17:51]: But also those uh [2:17:52, 2:17:55]: Those gray sidewalks that you see in the parking lot. [2:17:56, 2:18:00]: There's three. There's one at the top and and then there's one in the middle and there's one at the bottom. [2:18:01, 2:18:01]: And so [2:18:02, 2:18:08]: You would get out of your car and make your way to those sidewalks and those would be the entry portals into the plaza area. [2:18:08, 2:18:11]: And so we're that's what we're using to [2:18:11, 2:18:16]: Um it's also the the bottom one um connects to your art walk. [2:18:16, 2:18:20]: Um and so we we're bringing people in at the bottom too, which is [2:18:21, 2:18:27]: you know, probably the main corridor into the to the plaza area to the front to the front door. [2:18:31, 2:18:32]: Sir does that answer your question? [2:18:35, 2:18:43]: You muted. It does. It does. Um I was trying to get a better I was trying to pitch a view of the [2:18:43, 2:18:45]: The landscaping [2:18:45, 2:18:48]: Um directly coming in. [2:18:48, 2:18:50]: And with the potential of [2:18:51, 2:18:53]: Future development on Burke Street. [2:18:54, 2:18:58]: to make sure that um you know everything sort of gel. [2:18:59, 2:19:00]: But I can't picture [2:19:00, 2:19:03]: I can't picture the the landscaping [2:19:05, 2:19:07]: uh you know, of that entryway is it [2:19:07, 2:19:10]: Is it sort of just bland or [2:19:10, 2:19:15]: Uh will that be a high profile entryway into the um [2:19:15, 2:19:17]: Cultural art from from Berk Street. [2:19:18, 2:19:25]: I mean, we we'd like to make it very nice. I mean, this is still early stages with a diagram as we move forward. [2:19:25, 2:19:28]: We'd be getting more into the details, um, but [2:19:28, 2:19:31]: Definitely would like to make it very nice and attractive as you enter this. [2:19:31, 2:19:32]: This great building. [2:19:35, 2:19:35]: Okay. [2:19:36, 2:19:41]: Okay, and I and I guess I would reserve some questions later as we get to that point. I'll just a little [2:19:42, 2:19:45]: Um not concerned. I just didn't see. [2:19:45, 2:19:50]: uh the enhancement uh from the Berk Street side and [2:19:50, 2:19:53]: How would future development [2:19:53, 2:19:59]: um coincide with that with that entryway going into um the culture art from Burke Street. [2:20:01, 2:20:02]: Yeah. [2:20:02, 2:20:03]: What's I think? [2:20:03, 2:20:05]: No to that and and [2:20:05, 2:20:09]: The next time we come back we'll we'll make sure to emphasize that area. [2:20:10, 2:20:13]: Well well and if I may, just for a quick minute. [2:20:14, 2:20:17]: Um and I know we all understand that parking [2:20:17, 2:20:20]: is an issue in our downtown. [2:20:20, 2:20:24]: And one thing that we have been sort of highlighting was that [2:20:24, 2:20:26]: Uh if there [2:20:26, 2:20:30]: When there are events at the amphitheater. [2:20:30, 2:20:34]: That that parking there um at the cultural arts facility. [2:20:35, 2:20:37]: would be available [2:20:37, 2:20:41]: So that w that's the reason for my question. I was trying to picture [2:20:41, 2:20:44]: How accessible would that be? [2:20:44, 2:20:48]: uh parking for uh concert goes [2:20:48, 2:20:51]: uh in that particular line. [2:20:54, 2:21:01]: Right. I we'll probably need to zoom out and and and put a zibot together where you can see that that connectivity and the possibility of that. [2:21:02, 2:21:16]: Okay. Well, and I I'll ask questions as we go, um, even um after tonight, uh, Mrs. Tovel, uh if if need be. But I appreciate uh that information, but I just want to make sure that [2:21:16, 2:21:21]: Everything coincide with the overall plan. [2:21:21, 2:21:28]: for downtown uh you know redevelopment and I think you know we have to sort of take all that in consideration. [2:21:30, 2:21:31]: Sure. [2:21:32, 2:21:34]: I yield back, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. [2:21:35, 2:21:39]: Of course, just um a quick note on that. So we are going to improve the streetscape. [2:21:39, 2:21:42]: Along that edge, at least on the [2:21:42, 2:21:43]: Works uh [2:21:43, 2:21:46]: Birch Street side of the art center. [2:21:47, 2:21:48]: Um [2:21:48, 2:21:52]: So we will have a nice streetscape there. Um and [2:21:52, 2:21:54]: Earlier on we did have [2:21:55, 2:21:58]: a parcel on this uh property. [2:21:58, 2:22:04]: reserved for future development where you could do kind of strip retail. Um that was uh [2:22:05, 2:22:12]: you know, put to the side because of how it eliminated parking that could be uh that was needed for the art center. [2:22:12, 2:22:16]: Um but we're I'm glad to pull back up that plan if that's of interest. [2:22:19, 2:22:21]: Okay, um [2:22:21, 2:22:32]: And and and I reserve my other question for later. I won't uh tie tie up to me,'cause I know we've been sort of long already and we still have quite a bit to go tonight. But uh Mrs. Hubble, I may want to reach out to you. [2:22:33, 2:22:37]: uh at some point and and maybe discuss some other things up some I may have some other questions. [2:22:38, 2:22:39]: Sure thing. [2:22:39, 2:22:40]: All right. Thank you. [2:22:41, 2:22:43]: Is okay, go continue, please, Miss Hubble. [2:22:44, 2:23:00]: Sure, of course. So this is what the floor plan looked like in March. Obviously this was before engineers really got involved. The theater designers had been involved. That's why you see all of the uh good information on the theater itself. [2:23:00, 2:23:11]: Um but again, you know, we knew there were additional things that needed to be solved. So, you know, top on the list were acoustics and systems. So [2:23:11, 2:23:14]: uh our h or h vac, our plumbing [2:23:14, 2:23:16]: Um all the theater systems. [2:23:16, 2:23:17]: Um [2:23:18, 2:23:24]: structural system making sure that everything was going to work. So you know that was top on our list for this set. [2:23:24, 2:23:37]: Uh additionally, um you know we had received feedback to go ahead and try to increase seating capacity in the theater itself by eliminating um the individual uh private boxes. [2:23:37, 2:23:40]: Uh and then adding processional. [2:23:40, 2:23:43]: uh capability and functionality into the theater. [2:23:44, 2:23:45]: Um [2:23:45, 2:23:54]: You know, we also know knew that we need to address uh concessions, uh, due to the kind of squeezing of the theater building itself. [2:23:54, 2:24:14]: We originally started out with two concessions facilities, one on the main floor, the first floor, and one on the second floor. Uh the one on the main floor got eliminated. We only had a concession on the second floor, uh, and that created some functional issues, carrying drinks and popcorn and concessions up and down stairs for the theater uh really uh wasn't [2:24:14, 2:24:16]: doable so we need to solve that. [2:24:16, 2:24:29]: And then we need to look at re-incorporation of classrooms. So we wanted to solve where could we find space without increasing the building footprint to put back in classroom functions. [2:24:31, 2:24:33]: Uh so this is the updated floor plan. [2:24:34, 2:24:35]: Um [2:24:35, 2:24:48]: As you can see, we now have three floor plans. There was always intended to be a basement so that you know an orchestra and a pit could occur that hadn't been drawn, but now we have it drawn. You see it in the top left corner. [2:24:49, 2:24:54]: Um we have the main floor or the first floor and then we have the second floor. [2:24:55, 2:25:11]: Um so uh the uh blue components, the dark blue components again are the theater. Those are pretty much how you have seen them, uh except for some of the interior workings of the theater itself. I'm gonna talk about that increased capacity. [2:25:11, 2:25:29]: Um we have re-incorporated uh the classrooms. Those are the green components you see, the light green. Uh so we have three spaces now that can work for classrooms. Uh all of these can handle at least 25 uh people uh for a classroom setting. [2:25:30, 2:25:32]: Uh we have one that's on the first floor. [2:25:33, 2:25:46]: uh one that is on the second floor and then um a dual uh a dual flexible space that is both a theater practice space and could be a dance studio. So it's gonna have functionality for both. [2:25:46, 2:25:58]: Uh we still do have the gathering spaces which you see in red. Uh you have the main uh two-story lobby pre-function area. You still have the museum. [2:25:59, 2:26:05]: Uh and then we've taken concessions from the second story and we've moved it in. [2:26:06, 2:26:10]: Um to the first story and it is housed right here. Uh [2:26:10, 2:26:12]: due to feedback with staff. [2:26:12, 2:26:28]: Um, you know, we had a large archival space. Uh it actually appeared to be too large. So we minimized that, stretched out uh the museum space, which actually gives us more wall space for exhibits. [2:26:29, 2:26:32]: Um and incorporated the concessions down there. [2:26:33, 2:26:39]: What that did was free up a second story space uh that is a better gallery space. [2:26:39, 2:26:56]: uh than what we had previously, which was down here on the first floor. So this gallery space now is really part of this pre-function space on the second floor. And you'll actually be able to see art, have sculptures, and it will really enliven that pre-function space. [2:26:57, 2:26:59]: Ballroom remains the same. [2:27:00, 2:27:07]: Um and has not changed. Uh another thing that you'll notice is uh due to feedback and discussions uh with staff. [2:27:08, 2:27:12]: Um some of the two story spaces were really inefficient spaces. [2:27:12, 2:27:21]: So uh the museum, for instance, really didn't need the two the two-story space. So that allowed us to get some classroom space in. [2:27:21, 2:27:35]: Um the uh gallery space, which is nice at two stories, was really unusable as well. So we've used that to create uh a pre-function area to create sound isolation between um [2:27:35, 2:27:38]: you know, the entry and then that ballroom. [2:27:38, 2:27:46]: Uh so I really think you have a really robust plan here. Uh we've packed all we can in and been as efficient as we can. [2:27:46, 2:27:52]: uh so we can get some good pricing back uh and hopefully get all these com components that are uh [2:27:53, 2:27:54]: Requested and wanted. [2:27:57, 2:28:06]: Okay, Ms. Thomas, go ahead, please. Ms. Standby. Ms. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. I I I'll wait until she finished this particular presentation. All right, sure. Go ahead, Heather. [2:28:07, 2:28:08]: Sure. [2:28:08, 2:28:28]: Um so wanted to talk about some of those items that we need to solve for. So acoustics are huge for the theater. There's no question. You know, it needs to be a high higher level than you would receive when you go into, let's say, a high school presentation or gym. [2:28:28, 2:28:42]: needs to feel professional. Everyone needs to have a great uh presentation when they go in there. We need to be able to have movies and the spoken word, theater, um, and uh [2:28:43, 2:28:50]: quartets and orchestras as well. And you know, that experience is super important. So the acoustical [2:28:50, 2:28:57]: um engineer who's involved has been very highly active in making sure we're getting everything incorporated in. [2:28:57, 2:29:01]: What that means is sound isolation is super important. [2:29:01, 2:29:17]: um sound isolation from other spaces, sound isolation from the roof, things that might filter in, including uh you know mechanical influences on the roof, all this has to be very highly thought out uh and designed properly. [2:29:18, 2:29:23]: So what that means is we are going to end up with some specialty walls in this project. [2:29:23, 2:29:24]: Uh [2:29:25, 2:29:25]: Right. [2:29:26, 2:29:35]: And I've highlighted the main ones for you here on the screen. They're not all of them, but they are kind of the key ones. So [2:29:35, 2:29:40]: Key is um the theater box. So and you see that here in yellow. [2:29:41, 2:29:44]: Um so that is gonna absolutely be especially well. [2:29:44, 2:29:48]: Uh we have gone back and forth about what that wall is. [2:29:48, 2:29:54]: Um we still may have some debate on that. Right now it is called out as precast. [2:29:54, 2:29:58]: Um that will give us the best sign isolation. [2:29:59, 2:30:00]: Uh [2:30:01, 2:30:17]: But it is an expensive wall. So we're thinking through all that carefully. There's still more discussion to occur about that, but at this stage, that is what this boundary box is, and it really will give us the best possible sound isolation. [2:30:17, 2:30:24]: Um there are also sound isolations that are planned for around the rehearsal um classroom. [2:30:24, 2:30:37]: uh because there may be theater productions going on in there, uh dance classes going on in there, and the ballroom. In those cases, those walls will more be a double wall that we can do with light age. [2:30:41, 2:30:49]: Um another key thing that really goes with sound isolation, as I mentioned, was the sound that comes down from the ceiling. [2:30:49, 2:30:56]: So it it's key for us to get uh mechanical units that have compressors off the roof. [2:30:56, 2:31:10]: And uh to do that, really what we have to do is uh invest in a central plant. Um there have been a lot of discussions about the most economical way to do that. Uh in this case, we have a four-pipe system. [2:31:11, 2:31:15]: Um and a central plant called out and that is what is gonna be priced. [2:31:15, 2:31:26]: It is currently gonna be located over here to the left, as you see, and it will be in the back of house area, so you won't see it from the front or the side of the art center. [2:31:28, 2:31:48]: Uh and then I wanted to talk about the seating. So we um we were given uh the go-ahead to try to remove the private boxes and to up the seating. So we have done that. Uh this is the updated theater plan that you see. Um we are currently at uh 405 seats, that is an [2:31:48, 2:32:08]: Approximate that will move slightly down or slightly up, pending the final chair that we select. Chairs are all a little different, and so those selections are forthcoming. The seat that has been shown here is mid-range for theater seats, so it's not a really small one, it's not a huge [2:32:08, 2:32:10]: huge one, it's kind of medium size. [2:32:11, 2:32:28]: You can see that we have removed the private seating and then we have put in these side aisles. These side aisles will stay flat with the theater surface itself, so we can do that processional up and processional back. [2:32:28, 2:32:34]: uh that would be needed for graduation or award ceremony, et cetera, to have in this space. [2:32:34, 2:32:54]: Um, you can also see that we're starting to get some articulation. Um, there's a want for a contemporary look inside of this theater. Um, so these walls will help us, but they're also the acoustical influence that you see here. Some walls need to be absorbed by the some walls need to reflect, and so. [2:32:54, 2:32:58]: all of that information is starting to get programmed into the space. [2:32:59, 2:33:02]: Um in the balcony we have maintained two private boxes. [2:33:03, 2:33:03]: Um [2:33:04, 2:33:11]: one to the left and one to the right. So there is kind of a VIP option there where you could purchase one of those two boxes. [2:33:20, 2:33:25]: Um, and those are the four main bulletin points I wanted to cover tonight. [2:33:26, 2:33:27]: Questions? [2:33:29, 2:33:36]: Uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Yes, thank you. Uh Mrs. Hubble, as you know, before uh Mr. Knighton left. [2:33:37, 2:33:45]: I shared some concerns with him and and he reached out to you and and I spoke to you as well about. [2:33:45, 2:33:49]: Um security on the first floor, on the ground floor when [2:33:49, 2:33:55]: Um folks are coming in. Can you speak to some of that? Um [2:33:56, 2:34:07]: whether it's reception area or security, just so folks cannot just walk in at will and no one knows, you know, that they are in the building. [2:34:07, 2:34:09]: And also could you share? [2:34:09, 2:34:10]: Um [2:34:10, 2:34:12]: uh storage [2:34:12, 2:34:15]: And uh are there office spaces? [2:34:15, 2:34:16]: Uh on the first floor. [2:34:18, 2:34:20]: Sure. Um [2:34:20, 2:34:23]: Yes, so I did receive the that feedback. [2:34:23, 2:34:24]: Um we [2:34:25, 2:34:45]: uh intend to incorporate the security. It has not been completely flushed out. There still needs to be work done on this central space that is all forthcoming. Our intent is to enlarge uh this room and express that uh [2:34:45, 2:34:45]: Desk. [2:34:46, 2:34:49]: more to allow for that to be a security desk. [2:34:50, 2:35:01]: uh as well as a reception, um you will see it uh balloon more into this plan. Uh that's part of that interiors focus forthcoming. [2:35:01, 2:35:03]: Um as far as the offices. [2:35:03, 2:35:04]: Uh [2:35:05, 2:35:22]: those have been left on the second floor, something has to go on the second floor. So then the giveaway the I guess compromise is the best way to say is that that reception and security desk on the first floor and then the office space remains on the second floor. [2:35:22, 2:35:25]: If there's if there's still concerns about this layout. [2:35:25, 2:35:33]: uh in this uh method, glad to hear them and um adjust as properly. There's really not room for a [2:35:34, 2:35:34]: Yeah. [2:35:35, 2:35:44]: office we on the first floor unless we move a couple of pieces to the second floor and then that's a really big move for this whole floor plan. [2:35:45, 2:35:47]: Uh the other concern was [2:35:48, 2:35:53]: And looking at the green room at the amphitheater. [2:35:53, 2:35:59]: Um strategically looked like some of the outlets were not. [2:36:00, 2:36:03]: А конвентли плясть [2:36:03, 2:36:09]: Um did you take any of that in consideration uh in laying out [2:36:09, 2:36:15]: uh electrical outlet boxes um in the uh culture art center. [2:36:15, 2:36:21]: Sure. Um so we're not to the electrical layout per individual outlets. [2:36:21, 2:36:25]: Um but I have heard of that concern. I know we're uh [2:36:27, 2:36:29]: preparing to address it for that green room. [2:36:30, 2:36:34]: And we'll make sure that uh that adjustment is made here. [2:36:35, 2:36:35]: All right. [2:36:35, 2:36:38]: Thank you. I yield back, Maya. Thank you. [2:36:38, 2:36:40]: Any other questions for storage storage? [2:36:41, 2:36:42]: Mrs. Table. [2:36:43, 2:36:48]: Oh yes, I apologize. So storage is throughout uh this plan. [2:36:48, 2:36:52]: Um there are there's large storage rooms in the back. [2:36:52, 2:37:05]: That you can see here, there's also a large building services area here as well on as the second floor. And then we have classroom storage here on the second floor. [2:37:05, 2:37:14]: This is done throughout the plan. There are lots of different specific storage rooms. Here we have a ballroom storage. So [2:37:15, 2:37:21]: Glad to provide more kind of breakdown of how much storage we have, but we feel currently that we're adequate. [2:37:25, 2:37:25]: Good deal. [2:37:26, 2:37:28]: Any other question from Ms. Hobel? [2:37:30, 2:37:30]: Okay. [2:37:31, 2:37:32]: Anything else, Miss Hubble? [2:37:34, 2:37:35]: That's it. [2:37:35, 2:37:36]: Okay. [2:37:37, 2:37:39]: Thank you for your time. Appreciate it. [2:37:42, 2:37:43]: You're done. [2:37:44, 2:37:45]: I'm sorry, go ahead, Carl. [2:37:45, 2:37:46]: Sure. [2:37:46, 2:37:55]: Uh getting my share screen back up. Thank you, Heather. And hang on, Heather, because there might be some other questions about other projects that come up that that you'll be able to answer for me. [2:37:55, 2:38:06]: So looking at the cultural arts project sheet here, the as we just talked about, the schematic drawings are now complete. [2:38:06, 2:38:26]: The city has started the procurement process for the construction manager at risk. Um step one has been completed and there were uh three firms that submitted qualifications. Uh I believe that those are being reviewed uh by the procurement office and uh will determine [2:38:27, 2:38:33]: Uh which one of those are all those that may move into step two of the procurement process? [2:38:33, 2:38:45]: But we're looking at getting our construction manager at risk on board sometime in January. Now that's gonna be very important for us to have them on board as we tackle budget issues and [2:38:45, 2:38:55]: and look at um internally with the design team of cost of construction and and bantering ideas about different things. So the construction managers [2:38:56, 2:39:00]: dear to the ground will be very helpful for us moving forward. [2:39:00, 2:39:01]: Um [2:39:03, 2:39:07]: Just a couple of other things on the status. Uh probably don't need to get in too much detail, but [2:39:08, 2:39:11]: Uh Heather and her group are involving uh [2:39:11, 2:39:13]: uh Georgia D O T regarding [2:39:13, 2:39:17]: Solving some improvements that are required along North Henry Boulevard. [2:39:18, 2:39:22]: It looks like that might require some additional right of way. [2:39:22, 2:39:27]: uh as we probably are going to have to entertain uh introducing a deceleration lane. [2:39:28, 2:39:32]: Uh so there may be some some right of way issues to deal with at some point. [2:39:33, 2:39:53]: Um and then um we're also in into site due diligence. We're initiating the geotechnical studies, the seismic studies, uh looking at all the utility uh availability and relocations with Georgia Power. So those that's where we're basically that's what's going on on site is doing this uh [2:39:53, 2:39:54]: This new diligence. [2:39:56, 2:40:05]: Um financially, uh obviously, I guess it's my job, but you know, there's always a concern about what's the cost of this project. [2:40:05, 2:40:16]: Um and uh so we have um Heather's a costing consultant now has been given the schematic package set. Uh we went through a very good detailed [2:40:17, 2:40:26]: uh workshop with them. I think it was a Friday before um last week. And so now they are embarking on a very [2:40:27, 2:40:47]: um a detailed um costing exercise. So we're awaiting with bated breath um what those numbers are gonna be when they come back. But uh certainly, you know, I guess I guess my job is to be concerned about it. Uh the market is very volatile. Uh you know we're hitting an inflation site. [2:40:47, 2:40:47]: Michael. [2:40:47, 2:40:52]: Um so there's a lot of there's a lot of cost pressures on this project right now. [2:40:53, 2:41:13]: uh in addition to you know additional programming that that may creep into the project uh already or as we go along. So uh just wanted to to state that that uh you know we we really are going to be at a reconciliation point soon to see what what this project market value is versus uh the dollars available [2:41:12, 2:41:16]: available. And so that that time that's going to be coming up very shortly. [2:41:18, 2:41:29]: Um so just going through some key points on the timeline. Uh mentioned a few of those, but further down the line as we move through year 22. [2:41:29, 2:41:38]: Um there's gonna be uh several steps of design. Um the as we finish schematic design, we'll be into design development. [2:41:39, 2:41:40]: That package shouldn't be complete. [2:41:41, 2:41:47]: Around June, uh we will meet again to make a budget reconciliation at that point. Make sure we're in budget. [2:41:48, 2:41:52]: Uh the the construction documents will be complete in November. [2:41:52, 2:41:53]: Um [2:41:53, 2:41:55]: Those will be permit ready. [2:41:55, 2:41:58]: Um and also another opportunity to [2:41:58, 2:42:04]: Uh well that's gonna be our final opportunity to to cost check this project, uh making sure we're in budget. [2:42:04, 2:42:05]: Um so [2:42:06, 2:42:07]: You know, in addition to [2:42:08, 2:42:09]: The already known [2:42:10, 2:42:16]: inflationary factors that are in the market right now. We also have to understand that we're not letting this project [2:42:16, 2:42:17]: Um [2:42:17, 2:42:27]: to the contractor until the end of two thousand twenty two and there's a lot of unknowns of what's gonna happen market wise between now and then. So [2:42:28, 2:42:32]: You know, the the whole the whole year of twenty two as we finished this design. [2:42:33, 2:42:36]: Uh is going to be it's gonna require [2:42:36, 2:42:39]: Uh quite an effort to make sure we keep the project in budget. [2:42:40, 2:42:44]: Um, there's gonna be a lot of decisions that need to be made that um you know that that's [2:42:45, 2:42:47]: That'll be we'll deal with that as we go. [2:42:47, 2:42:50]: Uh but I just want you to be prepared for that. But um [2:42:50, 2:42:53]: That that's the reality of the market right now. [2:42:53, 2:42:58]: Um so we're keying on um being able to start construction. [2:42:58, 2:43:00]: January of twenty three. [2:43:01, 2:43:02]: I will tell you that's a [2:43:02, 2:43:05]: That's an awful time of the year to bring a project out of the ground. [2:43:06, 2:43:12]: Um generally we don't try to bring anything out of the ground in January, February. So we'll need to talk carefully about [2:43:12, 2:43:20]: uh when we want to uh to initiate the uh national construction of the project. But again, that's a discussion for another day. [2:43:22, 2:43:30]: Um, so that's the end of the project sheet for the Cultural Arts Center. I'll entertain any additional questions about what I've just gone through here, if there are any. [2:43:33, 2:43:35]: Mayor. Yeah, go right here, Mayor Proton. [2:43:35, 2:43:40]: Yeah, I'm just a bit dumbfounded. It's gonna take an entire year to put the plan together. [2:43:41, 2:43:42]: She's [2:43:45, 2:43:50]: I w I was I was certainly hoping for a very a much more ambitious timetable than that. Um [2:43:51, 2:43:56]: We have the fund funding in place and everything, and it's gonna take that long for us to move forward. Jeez. [2:44:01, 2:44:13]: Certainly that is that is a timeline that's that's been put together. There's a very detailed uh chart that outlines all the activities that have to be done between now and the start of construction. [2:44:13, 2:44:19]: You know, a lot of those are are well, all of those are are driven by the ability of the design team to [2:44:19, 2:44:36]: to move through uh what they need to do. So um I don't know, Heather, if you want to comment any additional uh have any additional comments on on your design timeline. Uh sure is the driver of the pro of the uh pre-development budget or the predevelopment schedule. [2:44:36, 2:44:38]: Sure, of course. Um [2:44:38, 2:44:43]: As you can as you can tell just from the presentation I just made. [2:44:43, 2:44:47]: that uh we have a schematic set that has 97 sheets. [2:44:48, 2:45:04]: That is a huge amount of sheets and we're just beginning to address all the nuts and bolts that need to be addressed for a fully functional art center. Um this is uh much more technical and uh complicated than [2:45:04, 2:45:06]: Uh the amphitheatre is [2:45:06, 2:45:10]: Um everything is in t is inside. [2:45:10, 2:45:17]: Uh everything has to be very controlled and precisely done, uh, or we get into construction and it's a mess. [2:45:18, 2:45:33]: So we really need to give the engineers and all the designers the time it takes to really do a great job of designing and detailing because we have a ton of specialty rooms, classrooms, ballroom, theater. [2:45:33, 2:45:40]: Um all of these things uh need to be done so that you're satisfied with the end product. [2:45:40, 2:45:45]: Uh and it it takes time to make sure we're coordinating and doing that properly. [2:45:47, 2:46:07]: I would just add that similar projects of this complexity of this size, um, in my experience, um, this is the this is in my mind the correct timeline for this. Um, I think rushing this uh gives us the opportunity to miss too many details. And I certainly don't want to be [2:46:07, 2:46:17]: standing before you as construction starts and you know trying to make excuses as to why a lot of details are missed. I I just think that haste makes waste. [2:46:18, 2:46:20]: I know that's placheus, but um [2:46:20, 2:46:23]: trying to fast track this this um [2:46:23, 2:46:26]: This timeline I think would be a detriment to the project. [2:46:30, 2:46:31]: Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [2:46:34, 2:46:42]: Yeah, I think um Mr. Trevathan and Ms. Hubble just explained. Um I have the same concerns as Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [2:46:42, 2:46:44]: Uh, I kind of was expecting [2:46:45, 2:46:47]: groundbreaking at the end of the year. [2:46:47, 2:46:48]: Um [2:46:48, 2:46:49]: So [2:46:50, 2:46:53]: I remember us approving this during the retreat. [2:46:54, 2:46:55]: So between now [2:46:56, 2:46:57]: Well, between [2:46:57, 2:46:59]: February up until now. [2:47:01, 2:47:02]: Has it just been the [2:47:03, 2:47:04]: Design or [2:47:07, 2:47:08]: What has been transpiring? [2:47:09, 2:47:11]: From February up until this point. [2:47:14, 2:47:15]: So [2:47:15, 2:47:18]: Fees for professional um [2:47:18, 2:47:21]: Design work with all the engineers didn't get approved. [2:47:22, 2:47:25]: Um until the end of [2:47:25, 2:47:26]: August. [2:47:27, 2:47:40]: So we didn't get started until September. And immediately within two weeks, we did the programming survey to get feedback from council on how to move forward appropriately. [2:47:40, 2:47:43]: And then we've only had six weeks or [2:47:43, 2:47:44]: Um [2:47:44, 2:47:51]: uh eight weeks to get to where we are now, which is schematic. So we did not get started till the end of August. [2:47:51, 2:47:53]: Awesome. Thank you. Thank you very much. [2:47:55, 2:47:57]: Yeah, questions. [2:47:59, 2:48:19]: All right, Carl, Heather, thank you for your presentation. All right. A few more projects just to give you an update on. I think we can move through these pretty quick. Ted Strickland renovation documents, uh construction documents are complete. Uh, and the uh the bidding phase for the general contractor should be occurring soon. [2:48:19, 2:48:24]: I don't have the exact date from the procurement offices or when those are happening, but it's [2:48:24, 2:48:26]: Um very eminent. [2:48:29, 2:48:31]: I'll move through these quick. So if you got a uh [2:48:31, 2:48:33]: Got a question, jump in. [2:48:33, 2:48:49]: Um the uh 114 uh Martin Luther King Senior tenant space renovation has been let for bid and uh bids have been received and the um city procurement office is in the in the negotiating phase with general contractors on that. [2:48:49, 2:48:55]: So as soon as the contractor is on board, uh that project can begin construction. [2:48:59, 2:49:01]: Uh let's see. [2:49:02, 2:49:06]: So the amphitheatre spa splash pad, um I I think it's [2:49:07, 2:49:13]: I think this one needs a little bit of attention. I know that CSW is awaiting approval of their task order for the concept drawing, so [2:49:14, 2:49:20]: Um I would just uh urge um whatever it takes to get [2:49:20, 2:49:22]: TSW turned loose to move forward. [2:49:23, 2:49:33]: Um I know that it was the intention of getting this flash pad project completed next year. I think attention needs to be given to the approval so that uh uh [2:49:34, 2:49:36]: Heather Steam can get started on that. [2:49:37, 2:49:39]: And you want to add anything to that, Heather? [2:49:44, 2:49:45]: Not at this time. [2:49:45, 2:49:46]: Okay. [2:49:47, 2:49:48]: Um [2:49:50, 2:49:56]: Mayor, if I may. Yeah, go ahead, Councilman Thomas. Carl, you you just made a statement about [2:49:57, 2:49:57]: Um [2:50:00, 2:50:05]: It was something about procurement and you said that you was waiting. [2:50:05, 2:50:07]: Can can you repeat that that statement? [2:50:08, 2:50:11]: Uh, I believe that was a project um [2:50:13, 2:50:15]: one fourteen M LK [2:50:15, 2:50:16]: Senior tenant. [2:50:16, 2:50:21]: Renovation is that the one that you want to about that or it might have been about the [2:50:22, 2:50:25]: I'm not sure if it was about to tell. I I got sort of distracted but [2:50:26, 2:50:28]: Right. [2:50:29, 2:50:33]: on something and I just want to ask the question. I was going to ask um [2:50:33, 2:50:34]: Mr. Wiggins [2:50:35, 2:50:38]: Uh a a question as it relates to [2:50:38, 2:50:48]: uh procurement and I was uh looking for a timeline, but uh I'll I'll let you go go go through uh it may come back to me, but I I sort of heard that [2:50:48, 2:50:52]: I was writing something and I heard you say something and I didn't fully understand. [2:50:53, 2:50:56]: But I wanted to get a better understanding on timelines. [2:50:56, 2:50:58]: Um from [2:50:59, 2:51:02]: you know, in in procurement, how [2:51:02, 2:51:07]: things are sort of moving forward, you know. And I guess my concern is [2:51:07, 2:51:08]: Waiting. [2:51:09, 2:51:12]: It see when I keep hearing waiting. [2:51:12, 2:51:15]: And with some presentation I've heard um [2:51:16, 2:51:19]: Uh someone say uh waiting on uh [2:51:19, 2:51:25]: further instruction. See things like that. I get a little upset when [2:51:26, 2:51:29]: When you have folks ready to move and they're waiting. [2:51:30, 2:51:32]: on further instructions or [2:51:32, 2:51:35]: We're waiting on something to to happen. [2:51:36, 2:51:41]: Um, but anyway, that that just sort of my concern and I just wanted to make sure that [2:51:42, 2:51:42]: Um [2:51:43, 2:52:03]: Everybody is just doing what they need to do. I was a little concerned about uh the schedule for the uh cultural arts, but I had already asked that question uh to Mrs. Hubble before, and she sort of told me what she told you all, and I was a little disappointed in that as well. So that's why I'm sort of speaking to. [2:52:03, 2:52:10]: To these processes, and we have to make sure that when the ball is handed off to the next entity. [2:52:10, 2:52:12]: That is continuously moving. [2:52:12, 2:52:14]: And if there's something within [2:52:15, 2:52:27]: in our uh ability, say our procurement or our city manager or whatever, we just need to make sure that these things are moving. And so you just sort of caught my ear when you said something about [2:52:27, 2:52:34]: um you were waiting on something and i i was a little concerned about that but i'll let you go forward though and finish [2:52:35, 2:52:37]: Okay, thank you for that. [2:52:38, 2:52:39]: Um [2:52:40, 2:52:56]: So the Merrill Manders conference refresh again is in the same uh spot um that and I hate to use the word awaiting after that, but um TSW is needing approval of their task order for that to do the concept drawings. [2:52:57, 2:52:59]: uh on on this project. [2:53:02, 2:53:04]: A few more left here. [2:53:05, 2:53:05]: Um [2:53:06, 2:53:10]: park system plan that TSW is working on. [2:53:13, 2:53:20]: Heather is working on a task order proposal that um I'm not sure exactly what your timeline is, Heather, to have that sent. [2:53:20, 2:53:24]: Uh, but I know you told me this uh past week that you were working on getting that. [2:53:25, 2:53:26]: Uh proposal ready. [2:53:26, 2:53:31]: Th this one is actually on uh the agenda tonight under old. [2:53:31, 2:53:32]: Old business. [2:53:33, 2:53:34]: Okay, that's true. Yes. [2:53:37, 2:53:37]: Thank you. [2:53:39, 2:53:54]: Uh the per public works storage facility concepts have been completed uh by TSW. Uh so uh I guess that Heather now needs to uh to work through the approvals of that with the city before uh [2:53:54, 2:53:57]: before that project moves forward. Have you got any other comments about that one? [2:53:58, 2:54:02]: Uh yes, you know, uh the awaiting is is not uh [2:54:03, 2:54:15]: Correct on this. Uh this task order was only four concepts. Um we have received feedback from the city uh and I actually owe them a new floor plan uh that has been [2:54:15, 2:54:18]: completed and will get sent to Dacious this week. [2:54:19, 2:54:31]: Right. And I'm going to going forward make sure I carefully choose whether I use the word awaiting on anything and give you a better definition of what we're really doing at that point. So I I do appreciate those comments and feedback. [2:54:31, 2:54:34]: And how we present these reports. [2:54:35, 2:54:43]: Um the last one I wanted to bring up is the police headquarters. I believe it's on the docket uh for TSW's task order to be approved tonight. [2:54:44, 2:54:47]: Uh we'll be moving very quickly with that. Um [2:54:47, 2:54:48]: My discussions [2:54:49, 2:54:50]: Earlier today. [2:54:50, 2:54:53]: Uh uh with uh Chief Tramor. [2:54:53, 2:55:10]: uh was that this does have a very quick timeline in order to get him uh up and running uh this summer according to his timeline. So uh this project is gonna have to to find a way to move very quickly to uh to accommodate that. And so we'll be uh [2:55:10, 2:55:15]: Working on a plan uh that accomplishes that time frame. [2:55:18, 2:55:25]: Uh so that's the end of my presentation. If there's not any more questions for me, I will give it back to you, Mayor. [2:55:25, 2:55:32]: All right, thank you, sir. Any any any final questions for uh Carl and Heather uh give up to podium. [2:55:33, 2:55:35]: I see none. Okay. [2:55:36, 2:55:45]: All right. On that note, uh Interdev projects update, status and timeline, Ashley Smith, Nathan Holder or Mr. Bonds. [2:55:53, 2:55:55]: Bear with me. [2:55:56, 2:56:00]: Well good evening, honorable mayor and council. I'm Nathan Holder with Interdev. [2:56:00, 2:56:09]: Uh, thank you for having us. Um, full disclosure, Ash Ashley Smith, our CIO or your CIO, was slated to give this presentation. We had a hard stop at [2:56:10, 2:56:17]: eight thirty so we're in a next man up situation. So me and uh me and Robert will get you guys through this. Uh [2:56:17, 2:56:32]: But uh the good news is uh our presentation I don't think will be as long as the previous ones. So um and and in fact I could probably run through these slides right quick and uh save questions to the end. But if you have any, ple please feel free to interject. [2:56:33, 2:56:34]: Right um [2:56:35, 2:56:49]: I like to start out with uh always ta uh mentioning the Interdev team because uh Robert Bonds is the person you see every day on site here. But uh Ashley Smith's your CIO. He has a team of engineers that also assist. [2:56:49, 2:56:53]: Robert on a weekly basis on various projects. Uh Jesse Kale are [2:56:54, 2:57:12]: Chief Information Security Officer. Uh his team he has a team of dedicated security professionals that have gotten more involved on the Stockbridge account just due to the increased importance of cybersecurity. So his team in our back office actually monitor actually monitors a lot of your uh infrastructure on a week on a weekly basis. [2:57:13, 2:57:20]: Then you have myself as your account manager and Britton Wilson, our service delivery manager, who monitors your service board and ensures we're adhering to our SLAs. [2:57:22, 2:57:24]: Um I'll run through these [2:57:24, 2:57:28]: Current projects this year, uh, and then we'll move forward to next year. Uh there's [2:57:29, 2:57:33]: Six in total. Um, and I'll go through each of them right quick. [2:57:34, 2:57:34]: Um [2:57:35, 2:57:38]: First one is we up uh we're upgrading your [2:57:39, 2:57:43]: Backup and disaster recovery platform. You're on a barracuda appliance now, but uh [2:57:44, 2:57:50]: We're uh beefing up your backup to Veeam, uh, which is a better solution for you and uh [2:57:50, 2:57:54]: We're replicating it between city hall and public works. [2:57:55, 2:57:57]: Uh that way if one goes down [2:57:57, 2:58:09]: we recover at another site and there's no loss in in data or connectivity. Uh we'll eventually expand that uh to City Hall public public works and the police department. Um [2:58:09, 2:58:12]: with also in the future a cloud replication. [2:58:13, 2:58:15]: Um as uh budget allows. [2:58:15, 2:58:22]: Um and that should be actually that's in progress and actually should be completed um the uh end or the middle of next month. [2:58:22, 2:58:26]: Um, we upgraded your firewall this year, as you'll see a trend. [2:58:27, 2:58:32]: Cybersecurity is more and more important. You know, our job is we want to keep [2:58:32, 2:58:34]: Our customers out of the news from [2:58:35, 2:58:40]: being hacked so and a f a firewall is one of the biggest ways you can prevent that. [2:58:40, 2:58:42]: Uh so we upgraded from your [2:58:42, 2:58:48]: Marocke system to uh forta fortigate, uh which is kind of our our standard and [2:58:49, 2:58:49]: Um [2:58:50, 2:58:52]: We have placed that in high availability and [2:58:53, 2:58:56]: In layman's terms, that means that if one appliance goes down. [2:58:57, 2:59:09]: the uh you don't lose any internet connectivity uh at your site'cause uh you have redundancy in place. Uh before you did not. So that would that was a big accomplishment on our end. And that was uh completed um [2:59:10, 2:59:11]: Back in um [2:59:11, 2:59:12]: Лейт Октоб. [2:59:13, 2:59:18]: Um our security team uh has implemented Sentinel One. [2:59:18, 2:59:21]: Antivirus, this is a big deal because a lot of cyber [2:59:22, 2:59:25]: Секюрін. [2:59:26, 2:59:32]: Uh you you can't even get cyber insurance unless you have in point detection a response, which you did not before. [2:59:32, 2:59:37]: You do na have that now with this new platform. And it so the importance of that is [2:59:38, 2:59:38]: If [2:59:39, 2:59:50]: Your uh the software sees a threat um hitting your system, our our secure it reports it to our back office security team immediately and they [2:59:50, 2:59:56]: immediately begin instant response and prevent a bad situation from happening. Um [2:59:56, 2:59:59]: And that's again a c cyber security standard. [3:00:00, 3:00:04]: moving forward, uh, that just had has to be in place. Um [3:00:05, 3:00:11]: The Robert, you could probably p uh pick uh piggyback on this one because you were involved with the city network. [3:00:11, 3:00:13]: Connectivity project. [3:00:15, 3:00:30]: Definitely. Um multiple uh buildings that we have were on uh different circuits, one of them bringing Airspring. So we wanted to uh give them a more robust connection with AT<unk>T fiber so that all the buildings are on the same network. [3:00:30, 3:00:47]: uh on one billing cycle that way it's easy for us as far as spending, but also just to make sure that um each building has an adequate internet connection, uh which before we did not. Some buildings had good connections, some buildings didn't, and we just combined those until ATT fiber. [3:00:50, 3:00:50]: Okay. [3:00:52, 3:00:58]: The amphitheater, that was obviously a big project this year. Uh we built out your network. Um [3:00:58, 3:01:06]: Gotta give kudos to our team because there's some last minute network equipment that had to be ordered. And we had a small army down there at the amphitheater helping Robert. Uh [3:01:06, 3:01:14]: meet the deadline so uh before that first concert. Uh and we're able to do it. Um and that is uh up and running. [3:01:16, 3:01:21]: Uh the public works building, your network down there, that's actually [3:01:22, 3:01:29]: uh slated to could uh be completed at the end of this week, but Robert, that might have been completed as early as this evening. [3:01:30, 3:01:30]: Correct. [3:01:31, 3:01:37]: Correct. The final connection for the JCI uh security cameras and car readers were [3:01:37, 3:01:41]: uh finally connected this this afternoon. So we are done. [3:01:41, 3:01:42]: Very good. [3:01:42, 3:01:48]: Yeah, we had one of our network engineers, Kai Parker, uh who so a lot of you guys know out there finishing that up today. [3:01:49, 3:01:51]: So moving forward into twenty twenty two. [3:01:52, 3:01:52]: Um [3:01:53, 3:01:57]: These are kind of some of our big initiatives, multi-factor authentication. [3:01:58, 3:02:06]: Again, a standard for insurance companies, you have to have it for you to get coverage. Um we'll be deploying that citywide. [3:02:06, 3:02:14]: And uh that'll what that'll entail is periodically when you try to log into your Microsoft account, you might get a uh push notification on your phone. [3:02:14, 3:02:16]: And sharing it's you. [3:02:16, 3:02:18]: uh just another layer of security. [3:02:18, 3:02:28]: And when that's in place, it's really um it really prevents uh attacks from happening. Uh dark web monitoring, um [3:02:28, 3:02:30]: Kind of a small project, but uh [3:02:31, 3:02:31]: It's [3:02:31, 3:02:35]: It's a platform we use to monitor to make sure that um [3:02:36, 3:02:41]: proprietary city information confidential stuff is not being posted on the dark web. [3:02:41, 3:02:44]: Uh and it alert and alerts us if it is. [3:02:44, 3:02:45]: Um [3:02:46, 3:02:47]: Email security [3:02:47, 3:02:56]: We're upgrading that platform to decrease the on as you guys have probably seen over the years. Spam becomes more and more of an issue. So [3:02:56, 3:03:05]: The the more we upgrade and beef that uh that email protection up, the less spam you should be receiving. And uh and this should go a long way in preventing that. Um [3:03:06, 3:03:09]: But perhaps the two biggest projects coming up that uh [3:03:09, 3:03:25]: We have not been we're not quoted yet, but to be determined as the new police department, which, you know, as Kekka would mention, there's going to be a fast timeline on that. So we'll be looking forward to working with Chief um and others on, you know, what all that's going to entail to get that network up and running. Um and all the [3:03:26, 3:03:30]: Technology and resources that a new police department r requires. [3:03:30, 3:03:31]: Um [3:03:32, 3:03:33]: And um [3:03:33, 3:03:40]: Yeah, we're we're anxious and that'll also require additional resources that we budget for next next year as well. [3:03:40, 3:03:48]: Um, and that likewise the Ted Strickland building will be needing to plan that out sooner than later on the network. So [3:03:48, 3:03:50]: That is [3:03:51, 3:03:59]: I know a very quick run through. Um, hope I didn't go too fast. I probably did, but we're Rob and I are happy to field any questions. [3:04:01, 3:04:03]: In questions council at all. [3:04:06, 3:04:07]: Um [3:04:07, 3:04:08]: Yeah, go ahead, Miss Barber. [3:04:08, 3:04:11]: So is Chief Tramer on the line? [3:04:12, 3:04:13]: T years. [3:04:16, 3:04:17]: Keep training up. [3:04:18, 3:04:19]: I just had a good. [3:04:19, 3:04:20]: Відрасті [3:04:21, 3:04:22]: Um the email [3:04:23, 3:04:28]: Regarding the cameras, um, I think Mayor Pro Tem Alexander were asking about [3:04:28, 3:04:33]: earlier today. What role would IT? [3:04:33, 3:04:35]: playing in those [3:04:35, 3:04:37]: Cameras or the install. [3:04:38, 3:04:41]: Yeah, they wouldn't play a role in the install, but they uh [3:04:41, 3:04:45]: cameras that would require uh network connectivity, I believe that [3:04:46, 3:04:51]: they would have to get involved in that, especially some of the cameras that we have that will be [3:04:51, 3:05:00]: place around the city. They're gonna have to feed into the cloud somehow. We'll have to be able to bring that back to the video management system. [3:05:00, 3:05:08]: And I'm not an IT person, so they might be able to speak more intelligently to that. I know they'll be involved, but they won't be involved directly with the installation. [3:05:09, 3:05:12]: Okay. Yes, I would uh I mean we would definitely ask that. [3:05:12, 3:05:13]: You know [3:05:13, 3:05:19]: Our team, especially Ashra, CEO CIO, I mean, he has so much familiarity with police systems. So [3:05:20, 3:05:24]: Even as those decisions of selecting those vendors is coming up, you know, we want to [3:05:24, 3:05:28]: make sure we're involved in that and consulting and even that in that selection. [3:05:31, 3:05:32]: Okay. [3:05:32, 3:05:43]: So Mr. Holder, do you do you anticipate an increase in manpower to accommodate um the rollout of our police department? [3:05:43, 3:05:58]: Yes, ma'am. And we put we uh I don't have that number in front of me, but Ashley Smith, he he has put it in the budget for next year, but it wouldn't go into effect until it until it is needed. But you you're looking at at le uh another full time person. [3:05:58, 3:06:00]: I would imagine. Um [3:06:01, 3:06:05]: to you know support support of police force tet the technology wise. [3:06:05, 3:06:14]: Okay. I certainly would want um once we get a new city manager on board, this is something I certainly would want us to consider. [3:06:14, 3:06:17]: Um perhaps bringing this in-house. [3:06:17, 3:06:18]: Um [3:06:20, 3:06:20]: Just a thought. [3:06:21, 3:06:22]: But that's all. [3:06:24, 3:06:25]: Any other questions, Council? [3:06:27, 3:06:33]: Uh yes, uh, real quick. Go ahead. Uh in terms of the overall, we had talked about uh having [3:06:33, 3:06:42]: Coverage for downtown as a whole. So, what is the range on what we have at the amphitheater now? So, if you're at the amphitheater, [3:06:42, 3:06:47]: and you wanna uh have that downtown connection, what is the range on that? [3:06:50, 3:06:55]: Are are you talking about like wireless? Wi Fi, yes. Okay. [3:06:55, 3:06:58]: Robert, would would you be able to answer that? [3:06:58, 3:07:17]: Yeah, right now we only have Wi-Fi for the actual seating and the parking lot of the amphitheater. We would need to expand, uh, get more devices or more services from uh ATT, our current provider. If we want to expand that, uh that's a pretty sizable uh fee, but it can be done. But right now. [3:07:17, 3:07:18]: Yeah. [3:07:18, 3:07:21]: only covers the amphitheater and his guests. [3:07:22, 3:07:28]: Well, we had had the previous discussions about the entire downtown being covered. We wanted to be an attraction point. [3:07:29, 3:07:32]: So when you do come downtown or walk on the trails or what have you. [3:07:32, 3:07:35]: That you have access to the to the Wi Fi. [3:07:36, 3:07:39]: So I guess that's something we need to put together and see. [3:07:39, 3:07:42]: uh what that looks like in terms of overall cost. [3:07:44, 3:08:00]: Definitely, we can definitely um work with Ashley to do that, get that uh cost. Um and also, I guess, uh get with uh the mayor about exactly what those bounds are, so that way we know we cover everything. [3:08:00, 3:08:10]: Uh, because we don't wanna misquote um if we leave somebody out. So if we get a clear definition of what needs to be covered, we definitely come back with that cost. [3:08:11, 3:08:23]: All right, we can work on that. Definitely. All right. And may approach him. That was a that did come up uh with Randy Knight and I believe the week before he left. So I think it kind of stalled after that. But yeah, we can follow up. [3:08:25, 3:08:29]: Okay. All right. Anything else, Council? [3:08:32, 3:08:39]: All right, I don't see anything else at this moment. Okay. Uh thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate that. Uh thank you. Okay. [3:08:39, 3:08:47]: On this at this is a time uh councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Uh I don't have any question for any of that. I I have a closing [3:08:47, 3:08:52]: statement I'd just like to make um and a request uh [3:08:52, 3:08:56]: at the end of this segment if if if that is the end. [3:08:57, 3:09:01]: It is the end. Actually, what it is, I was gonna ask for us to go into executive session. [3:09:01, 3:09:03]: Um real quick. [3:09:04, 3:09:11]: Well, go ahead. But it has to come after this section here. And if I may, just go ahead and get into that. I just wanted to um um [3:09:13, 3:09:26]: share with the council, you know, at our at our last meeting, uh, I made this request for these updates. And and I hope that mayor and council, I hope that we all see now and understand how important [3:09:27, 3:09:29]: Uh these updates were [3:09:29, 3:09:32]: Uh a lot of things that we didn't know. [3:09:33, 3:09:35]: Uh we injected a lot of things in. [3:09:36, 3:09:42]: And I won't really get too deep into that, but I think it was so important tonight and I think it was eye-opening for all of us. [3:09:43, 3:09:46]: So my my recommendation now is [3:09:46, 3:09:54]: And and and I'm gonna ask the city clerk to to weigh in on this, but I think that going forward, we need to require [3:09:54, 3:09:56]: Uh the city manager [3:09:56, 3:10:00]: to give us a m in his um monthly report. [3:10:01, 3:10:05]: uh a a an update a status update [3:10:05, 3:10:10]: on all project. I think this is a must for us to have going forward. For me. [3:10:11, 3:10:31]: I see clearly we we needed that because we were so in the blind of all of these projects. And even uh I think citizens now understand too that we are in a lot of the infrastructure for this city. It's not about all of the bells and the whistles, you know, the amphitheater and the culture art, but we are [3:10:31, 3:10:50]: Are paying attention to the infrastructure, you know, the guts and the framework of this city. And I think it was good information that came out tonight. But just to cut my little speech here short, I like to recommend, and I don't know if that is in the job description of the city manager, a monthly report. [3:10:50, 3:11:10]: Um that will give us a status update. And the mayor, if I may, you may know this, the city clerk, you may know, but I don't know if that is in the job description. And if it's not, I like to make sure that this is a requirement of the city manager coming in to give us uh a monthly update uh on all projects. [3:11:10, 3:11:11]: [11473.0, 11485.5]: We can easily add tag that to that city manager and to the interim until we get the city manager if that's the case. But yes, uh, we can do it. I can't recall if it's out outrightly outlined in this in the job description. I'm pretty sure there's something similar to that. [3:11:26, 3:11:27]: And but we can take care of that. [3:11:27, 3:11:34]: Okay. No problem. It is important for us to uh get these updates because we need to be in the know. [3:11:34, 3:11:54]: Thank you, sir. No problem, you're welcome. At this point, I'd like the motion to uh go into executive session uh and to deal with real estate issues and and that means that uh upon this approval, besides the council, but all our attorneys uh would need to get a connectivity to that uh separate um uh link along with Mr. Peterson. [3:11:54, 3:12:02]: And I don't think I think and everybody else will just have to be on standby till we get back to the regular session, I believe, at this point. [3:12:03, 3:12:05]: Okay. Gotta get a motion on that, please. [3:12:06, 3:12:12]: Yeah, so we're gonna move that we go into um executive session to discuss real estate matters. [3:12:12, 3:12:13]: Okay, so a second. [3:12:15, 3:12:18]: Uh Mr. Thomas seconds that okay, all in favor, please indicate. [3:12:20, 3:12:21]: Um [3:12:22, 3:12:25]: I agree, but are we not discussing personnel matters? [3:12:26, 3:12:32]: That's not that's we weren't going to discuss it. That was not part of uh the executive session for this evening. [3:12:33, 3:12:34]: Okay. [3:12:34, 3:12:35]: All right. [3:12:35, 3:12:45]: And so uh uh all in favor, uh make sure I got that right. All we got a consensus here, I think, uh that aspect. And um [3:12:45, 3:12:50]: What happened okay. Well, I don't even see um [3:12:51, 3:12:54]: Councilwoman Barb uh not Barber, but uh Dan. [3:12:55, 3:12:57]: Is she not in the meeting? [3:12:57, 3:13:04]: Anyway, all right. We got it we got a consensus. We're going with the exec session. Miss Holiday, you'll be able to give us a send everybody a link before the Zeckly session, please. [3:13:06, 3:13:07]: We'll do. [3:13:07, 3:13:11]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. I'll see you all within ten minutes. So hopefully we'll get it done ten minutes here. Thank you. [3:13:24, 3:13:25]: Okay. [3:13:29, 3:13:31]: Try to get this together here. [3:15:52, 3:15:56]: All right. Uh we have uh we actually have our quorum right now. We got uh [3:15:57, 3:16:08]: And Miss Barber, Alexander, myself, and Thomas. Um, okay, so uh we're gonna get start back started. Uh we may not have our attorneys, they [3:16:08, 3:16:16]: They had some other tasking, so they may not pop up back in. Um, so anyway, we're gonna move on with this and um [3:16:17, 3:16:18]: So we'll talk about old business. [3:16:19, 3:16:39]: And uh old business is council consideration to approve the test order number 21 with TSW Incorporated, City of Stockbridge Parks Master Plan in amount of$385,400. Uh funding sources spLOS. And uh this will be conducted or given by Mr. Aaron and Heather Heather Hubble. Please. [3:16:39, 3:16:39]: Please. [3:16:40, 3:16:46]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. Uh several months ago during a council meeting, uh staff presented a [3:16:47, 3:16:52]: A task order from TSW to develop a parts master plan and [3:16:52, 3:16:55]: Council wanted some other items addressed in that. [3:16:55, 3:16:57]: Master plan so [3:16:57, 3:17:06]: TSW has gone back and made some revisions to the plan, to the task order. Okay, Mr. Aaron, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Please forgive me. I forgot. [3:17:06, 3:17:07]: [11827.4, 11830.6]: I need a motion to enter to end the second session. I'm sorry. [3:17:11, 3:17:13]: Is there a second? [3:17:15, 3:17:17]: Miss Barber Seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [3:17:18, 3:17:26]: Okay, I need a motion to reconvene our our our council work session. So so moved. Ms. Gantt, I'll give a second. [3:17:27, 3:17:29]: Ms. Barber seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [3:17:30, 3:17:50]: Hi. Thank you. And we have nothing to report from the executive session at this time. Now, Mr. Aaron, I'm sorry about that. Go ahead, please. Yes, sir. Uh TSW has gone back and addressed the items that came up during the previous presentation. So I'll let Mr. Brian Baze present that along with Heather Hubb Hubble. [3:17:51, 3:17:52]: I thank you. [3:17:55, 3:17:57]: Thank you. Good evening, Mayor and Council. [3:17:57, 3:17:59]: Um [3:18:00, 3:18:13]: Uh I don't remember exactly when. Uh I don't remember exactly when we last talked about this, but just quick, quick uh background. Uh we originally brought a task order that was just focused on a few small. [3:18:13, 3:18:21]: Selected design projects within uh the three parks: Clark Park, Remote Park, and Gardner Park. [3:18:21, 3:18:24]: Um and during that discussion. [3:18:25, 3:18:37]: Uh I think I think the group kind of agreed that there needed to be a little bit broader look at some of the issues uh with regard to uh park programming, uh trail access and connectivity. [3:18:38, 3:18:40]: uh and potential um [3:18:41, 3:18:44]: Opportunities for new parks and a park system plan. [3:18:45, 3:18:48]: Which is a much more comprehensive look. [3:18:48, 3:18:57]: at your park system with public input and uh guided by uh park uh system plan steering committee so [3:18:58, 3:19:03]: Um and I think one of the kind of key things, uh one of the key takeaways from that. [3:19:03, 3:19:05]: As well was that uh [3:19:06, 3:19:15]: Everybody still wanted the the priorities uh or uh they wanted to acknowledge the priorities uh of the outcome of that system plan needed. [3:19:16, 3:19:24]: To to focus on specifically Memorial Park because there's some kind of significant issues there uh with regard to access through. [3:19:25, 3:19:26]: Anybody so [3:19:27, 3:19:38]: Uh we and I I I think it's a great idea. So we went back and uh took another pass at our task order to uh both include the park system plan. [3:19:38, 3:19:47]: Uh, information in there and everything else we thought we needed to get you uh through the park system plan and into. [3:19:48, 3:19:58]: uh or or to a point in design of those three parks like we originally had talked about where uh this group or the steering committee could assess [3:19:58, 3:20:10]: the plans, the cost of the plans and make good decisions about which pieces to move forward with and you know which pieces to to maybe save for later down the road. So [3:20:10, 3:20:14]: The task order that uh we have in front of you is a three part task order. [3:20:15, 3:20:32]: Uh the first part uh really focuses on providing uh getting topographic and uh land surveys for Mr. Bays, excuse me for a second. Is that something you're gonna show on your screen, sir? Oh yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, we we don't see it on your screen, sir. Uh let me s let me see here. [3:20:37, 3:20:39]: Let me zoom in too. [3:20:40, 3:20:41]: There we go. [3:20:46, 3:20:51]: We've been showing a lot of pretty documents on the screen, but this is not one of'em. A lot of a lot of words here. [3:20:52, 3:20:52]: Um [3:20:53, 3:20:56]: Okay, so let me let me just start from the top. [3:20:56, 3:21:16]: Uh so so to get this work done, we have a a team of a few different consultants. Uh of course, TSW leaded our planning and landscape architecture group. Architecture will have a role in assessing uh some of the existing structures uh and also helping with any programming of future programming needs. [3:21:16, 3:21:18]: Needs of future structures. [3:21:19, 3:21:35]: Um we are uh bringing a civil engineer uh to help with the planning work that we've worked with on this type of project uh a number of times, Park Master Planning, uh Volkert Engineering. Uh they're actually here in uh downtown Atlanta. [3:21:35, 3:21:36]: K D E [3:21:36, 3:21:45]: uh is a a company that does cost estimating. They did cost estimating on the amphitheater. They're working with uh Heather as well. [3:21:45, 3:21:49]: on the art center and other various projects in town. So they're very familiar with [3:21:50, 3:21:56]: Um uh the lay of the land from uh a construction cost standpoint in Stockbridge. [3:21:56, 3:21:59]: And then we've also included a company called RMPK funding. [3:22:00, 3:22:00]: Uh [3:22:01, 3:22:13]: uh on the team that uh can look at the proposed improvements and come up with a grant funding strategy uh for the for the park system plan. [3:22:13, 3:22:26]: That uh you know you can stack with some other funding that you might already have. Uh so a lot of times the grants require matching. Uh, you know, for instance, you might be able to use some SPLOSS funds to cover the matching and actually leverage that to [3:22:26, 3:22:30]: To use to have more funding to build a park uh [3:22:30, 3:22:32]: Park element. So [3:22:33, 3:22:33]: Um [3:22:35, 3:22:50]: So that's kind of how the team is stacking up right now. And as I mentioned, it's a three-part uh proposal. The first part really deals with uh getting topographic and site surveys for the three existing parks. [3:22:50, 3:22:53]: Uh Garner Park, uh Memorial Park and Clark. [3:22:53, 3:22:57]: And um and then also [3:22:58, 3:23:08]: Uh doing some as built drawings for some of the existing buildings and building assessments for some of the existing uh structures uh that we toured with uh. [3:23:08, 3:23:11]: With the public works uh folks uh [3:23:11, 3:23:15]: It's been a few months back now, but uh in and [3:23:15, 3:23:16]: And looked at those. So [3:23:17, 3:23:18]: Uh that's part A. [3:23:19, 3:23:27]: And I'm gonna just flip to the back. There's actually the I don't know if they put this in your packet, but there's actually a some cost summary at the back end. [3:23:28, 3:23:29]: of this task proposal. [3:23:30, 3:23:31]: Um [3:23:31, 3:23:32]: Uh [3:23:32, 3:23:38]: And it has a breakdown of the cost of each of these uh parts separately. [3:23:39, 3:23:39]: So [3:23:40, 3:23:42]: Part B is actually the park system plan. [3:23:43, 3:23:46]: Uh that's where we go out and assess all the parks. Uh [3:23:46, 3:23:51]: Uh we uh put together a public engagement strategy. [3:23:51, 3:23:55]: Uh uh, we look at opportunities, we do a lot of groundwork. Uh [3:23:56, 3:23:59]: Uh you know, just looking at the parks. Um [3:24:00, 3:24:02]: And um [3:24:02, 3:24:06]: And then uh we combine our findings with [3:24:06, 3:24:08]: The public engagement strategy. [3:24:09, 3:24:24]: to essentially generate a list of needs based on public input and also based on guidance from staff and uh the steering committee. And the steering committee, uh, you know, once we get into this, uh, one of the first things we're gonna do is obviously meet with [3:24:25, 3:24:33]: uh meet with the city and uh decide who needs to be on the steering committee. So they so so we have a group that's kind of helping us. [3:24:33, 3:24:36]: uh guide things along the way. There are a lot of different ways you can do that. [3:24:37, 3:24:42]: Um and we can talk about that more, I guess, uh once we get the the process started. [3:24:44, 3:24:47]: Um we talking about base mapping. [3:24:47, 3:24:52]: Uh, I'm not gonna flip through this uh in an extreme amount of detail. [3:24:52, 3:24:53]: Um [3:24:54, 3:25:04]: But I am gonna kind of fast forward to a piece of this. Uh so so you know, we'll talk to the public, we'll get input, we'll bring ideas to the public, uh [3:25:05, 3:25:16]: uh and get feedback on some planning ideas. So we've already discussed some ideas in the previous meeting, uh, you know, about potential new entrances, about location for access. [3:25:16, 3:25:20]: For new trails, we'll do a level of service analysis. [3:25:21, 3:25:22]: Uh for the parks. [3:25:22, 3:25:24]: Uh that uh [3:25:24, 3:25:29]: that actually compares what people has have expressed or what the community has expressed. [3:25:30, 3:25:35]: as needs uh and compare them to what you actually have in your park so we could see [3:25:35, 3:25:36]: Where there are deficits. [3:25:38, 3:25:40]: And then we'll actually um [3:25:41, 3:25:43]: Prepare park master plans for [3:25:43, 3:25:47]: Uh definitely each of the three parks we already know those are focus areas. [3:25:48, 3:25:57]: Uh we will uh study any trail connections, uh make recommendations for trail connectivity or extensions of existing trails. [3:25:57, 3:26:01]: That need to happen and then also um [3:26:01, 3:26:14]: Uh depending on what what we find in our level of service analysis, make recommendations for new parks if we feel like there uh is a deficit of parks or there are areas of the community that are underserved. [3:26:15, 3:26:34]: Um, it's a very comprehensive look. We're not just gonna look at your city parks, we're gonna look at just open space that's available for people to use. Uh it can be private open space, uh, it can be open space associated with schools, maybe athletic facilities. It really is uh a [3:26:34, 3:26:36]: Comprehensive look at [3:26:36, 3:26:49]: access to recreation uh and parks uh uh land in your community to make sure that that everybody has uh an equal or equitable level of service. [3:26:51, 3:26:56]: Um and then I guess the last piece, you know, once we go through the process, everybody agrees. Uh [3:26:56, 3:27:00]: on the the plans and the programming for the plans. [3:27:00, 3:27:20]: Is identifying priorities and identifying funding opportunities. I already talked a little bit about RPK funding and how they're gonna help us with that. I think once you know we have a list of you know we've got a 10-year uh horizon here that we're looking at and we can prioritize the entire plan. [3:27:20, 3:27:20]: And [3:27:20, 3:27:24]: In ten years we can prioritize whatever. [3:27:24, 3:27:25]: Uh [3:27:25, 3:27:35]: I guess whichever parts of the plan you want to focus on in ten years. And then RP R and PK will take those and put together a comprehensive funding plan to help you. [3:27:35, 3:27:38]: uh have a roadmap for um [3:27:38, 3:27:40]: pursuing grant opportunities for that. [3:27:42, 3:27:46]: Um and I I'll be glad to share an example of that. Uh if if anybody [3:27:46, 3:27:51]: Like to see that we've worked on that capacity for a number of years. So [3:27:52, 3:27:55]: So that's part B. That's the park system plan. [3:27:55, 3:28:05]: Um and you know, it's a complicated process. It takes a few months to get through, but it should yield a really detailed kind of roadmap of how [3:28:05, 3:28:06]: Uh [3:28:06, 3:28:12]: You know, we realize the park system that Stockbridge, uh both both the city and [3:28:12, 3:28:17]: um staff and the c citizens uh need and want for their community. [3:28:18, 3:28:19]: So the third part. [3:28:20, 3:28:26]: of this uh really uh is a is a adaptation of the original scope that we talked about. [3:28:27, 3:28:31]: Uh before we decided to add the park system plan and that is [3:28:31, 3:28:32]: Um [3:28:32, 3:28:39]: Schematic designs for the priority area park plans. And and what we're saying the priority areas are. [3:28:39, 3:28:42]: Ар Клак, Меморіал Ангарна паркс ен. [3:28:43, 3:28:44]: Uh [3:28:45, 3:28:49]: We will you guys have seen a ton of schematic designs. We're gonna take the site plans. [3:28:49, 3:29:00]: to a point where you know you can see what the parks would look like if we apply the programming, hardscape, shelters, uh other park elements, open space. [3:29:00, 3:29:02]: parking access roadways [3:29:02, 3:29:08]: trail heads, trail locations, that type of stuff within the park. And then we're gonna put um [3:29:09, 3:29:11]: We're gonna put real numbers with those. [3:29:11, 3:29:22]: Uh I think for schematic design, um maybe I I have the uh pricing plan listed as an option and I don't uh I'll have to look at the um [3:29:23, 3:29:28]: I'll have to look at at whether or not that's included in the cost, but we do definitely have budgetary pricing. [3:29:28, 3:29:33]: with the master plan, uh the the comprehensive master plan portion of it. [3:29:33, 3:29:41]: Um, so that it will help guide you guys uh or this group and making decisions, good financial decisions about. [3:29:41, 3:29:43]: uh park improvements um [3:29:46, 3:29:55]: I do have task three as an optional cost estimate and that should say task four uh for perspective running. So when we get there, if the if you want. [3:29:55, 3:29:57]: You know, if you want more kind of developed [3:29:58, 3:30:03]: uh imagery, uh we can do that and we can also um do a deep dive into costs. [3:30:04, 3:30:05]: costing if we want. [3:30:06, 3:30:12]: So a lot of a lot of talk about scheduling on these projects. Uh I did a quick uh breakdown of of what the schedule looks like. [3:30:12, 3:30:14]: The survey takes about six weeks. [3:30:15, 3:30:16]: Uh on a good day right now. [3:30:17, 3:30:23]: Uh all the surveyors are backed up. I think that uh last I checked with a survey and I talked with them probably every couple of weeks. [3:30:24, 3:30:27]: uh about about project work um [3:30:27, 3:30:30]: I think he said he's about six to eight weeks out. [3:30:30, 3:30:39]: Um that could run that so the survey work could run concurrent with uh the kickoff of part B. [3:30:39, 3:30:52]: Which is the park system plan. So while he's gathering his base mapping, we can do our field work and we can assess the buildings and do all the other things we need to do so that task A and B kind of come together. [3:30:53, 3:30:59]: down here um in task uh two, three, and four when we actually need that survey data. [3:31:00, 3:31:02]: Uh and you can see that uh [3:31:02, 3:31:05]: You know, if you look at the the breakdown of this. [3:31:05, 3:31:11]: Um the timing on this. It's it's not something that's gonna happen in a couple weeks. You know, perk system plan. [3:31:12, 3:31:14]: А і за процес да [3:31:14, 3:31:15]: Um [3:31:15, 3:31:25]: is somewhat cyclical. We go to the public, we get input, we go back, we do work, we come back to the public for input and to the steering committee for input. And we kind of [3:31:26, 3:31:30]: uh refine our ideas as we get that input. So [3:31:30, 3:31:35]: You know, all in, uh it's probably about six to nine months for the park system plan. [3:31:36, 3:31:40]: Uh, to get to the point where we can do schematic designs. [3:31:40, 3:31:45]: And then the schematic designs take about eighteen to twenty four weeks. So it's probably [3:31:46, 3:31:52]: A year, uh a year and three months before we get to the end of schematic design. [3:31:52, 3:31:54]: Uh for those three parks. [3:31:56, 3:31:58]: In round numbers. And then here [3:31:59, 3:32:01]: Here's the way the cost breaks down. [3:32:01, 3:32:06]: Part A is fifty-eight thousand dollars. That's the surveying survey and building assessment. [3:32:06, 3:32:08]: The park system plan. [3:32:08, 3:32:14]: Uh it's one hundred and forty seven thousand dollars. Uh that's that's just for the um [3:32:14, 3:32:16]: Асесмент [3:32:17, 3:32:18]: uh public input. [3:32:18, 3:32:21]: Uh, the park master plans and then the funding priorities. [3:32:22, 3:32:26]: And then the schematic design piece is$180,000. [3:32:27, 3:32:28]: Uh and again, that's for three. [3:32:29, 3:32:33]: That's for three complete parks. I think before we were looking at just areas within the park. [3:32:34, 3:32:35]: Uh, but we've expanded that. [3:32:36, 3:32:40]: uh to to the complete park area based on [3:32:41, 3:32:44]: The feedback that we get from [3:32:44, 3:32:45]: Uh [3:32:46, 3:32:50]: from the prioritization uh after the park system plan. [3:32:51, 3:32:54]: And then uh the optional tasks I mentioned before. [3:32:55, 3:33:01]: Uh schematic design cost estimates twenty-six thousand dollars. That's for that's for ADE to cost. [3:33:01, 3:33:03]: All three of the full park. [3:33:03, 3:33:06]: uh plant schematic park designs. [3:33:06, 3:33:10]: Um and then if you want renderings with that, um [3:33:10, 3:33:13]: You know, there's what that's gonna cost, twelve thousand five hundred dollars. [3:33:13, 3:33:17]: Um andisha's uh remind me. [3:33:17, 3:33:18]: Um [3:33:18, 3:33:22]: Because for some reason I don't have this all totaled up because we weren't really sure. [3:33:23, 3:33:24]: Um [3:33:24, 3:33:32]: how how this would get kind of parsed out. Does the does the number that you um have on the [3:33:32, 3:33:36]: Uh tonight include both of these optional tasks or not? Do you remember? [3:33:36, 3:33:38]: I can add them up real quick to you. [3:33:40, 3:33:46]: What's in the l what's in the actual agenda says three hundred and eighty five thousand four hundred dollars is what it says. [3:33:46, 3:33:50]: Which is part A, B, and C. Okay. So if I'm [3:33:51, 3:33:51]: Pose one A. [3:33:53, 3:33:53]: Yes. [3:33:54, 3:33:56]: So does not include those optional tasks, but I think [3:33:57, 3:33:59]: I don't even honestly [3:33:59, 3:34:07]: I don't even know if we need to even think about these optional tasks until we get done with part C and we can even understand. [3:34:08, 3:34:11]: the totality of what we're talking about, um [3:34:11, 3:34:17]: Because we don't really know what those the system plan is gonna yield at this point, because there's a lot of work to be done. [3:34:17, 3:34:18]: So [3:34:18, 3:34:25]: I kinda rushed I kind of rushed through that a little bit, um, but I I did want to open it up for questions now. [3:34:26, 3:34:32]: Well I appreciate your comprehensive briefing there, sir. Sure. Okay, so uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [3:34:33, 3:34:35]: Wanted to ask if you could please forward [3:34:36, 3:34:38]: that presentation to the mayor and council. [3:34:39, 3:34:40]: Absolutely, yeah. [3:34:40, 3:34:42]: Thank you. And my second question is. [3:34:42, 3:34:43]: We can [3:34:44, 3:34:45]: I think we still have a [3:34:46, 3:34:48]: Agreement with Paz Foundation. [3:34:48, 3:34:51]: Um that we entered into last year. [3:34:51, 3:34:55]: Have you all worked with Path Foundation at all? [3:34:56, 3:35:04]: We have, yes. Um uh we did some belt line work with them and I mean they do a lot of work all over town, so [3:35:04, 3:35:10]: Uh pretty much any any trail that that we're involved in, they're involved in some manner. [3:35:10, 3:35:16]: I've also done some work up in Gwinnett County and then we uh and uh over at the Gwinnette Place Mall. [3:35:16, 3:35:22]: Uh and we have an on-call contract with Gwennick County, so we've worked with them in that capacity as well. [3:35:23, 3:35:24]: Okay. Um [3:35:25, 3:35:26]: So [3:35:28, 3:35:31]: Would there be an issue to substitute um [3:35:32, 3:35:41]: I guess the entity that you're using for grant opportunities, is it the RB R R and P K? [3:35:41, 3:35:45]: Yes, are you able to substitute them with Pat Foundation? [3:35:45, 3:35:51]: Um, well the Path Foundation is really specifically focused on trail uh development and maintenance. [3:35:52, 3:35:55]: Okay. RPK will look at [3:35:56, 3:36:00]: All the elements of the park, uh including storm water. [3:36:00, 3:36:02]: uh stuff. [3:36:02, 3:36:07]: And so they have a much more kind a much broader kind of view of the grant possibilities. [3:36:07, 3:36:11]: I would think Path would be a stakeholder potentially for sure. [3:36:11, 3:36:18]: And this discussion because of their um because they develop uh paths or they develop trails. [3:36:18, 3:36:18]: Yeah. [3:36:19, 3:36:20]: Okay, thank you. [3:36:22, 3:36:38]: Yeah, questions for Mr. Bays. Mayor Mayor Pro Tem. Okay, I'm sorry. Uh let Councilman Thomas go. Council Thomas, go ahead, sir. Councilman Thomas. Oh, okay. Uh thank you. Um Mr. Bays, I appreciate the the presentation. I I read through it a couple of times. [3:36:38, 3:36:41]: And as I mentioned um in our last meeting. [3:36:42, 3:36:45]: I have a great concern for Memorial Park because I think [3:36:46, 3:36:51]: Memori out of out of the three park, I think memorial is going to be [3:36:51, 3:36:56]: Uh that part with the highest level of um difficulties. [3:36:57, 3:36:58]: And I sort of marked up. [3:36:59, 3:37:06]: uh the steering committees, uh the input from the community. And I'm real concerned and want to make sure that [3:37:07, 3:37:09]: Um that that is thorough. [3:37:09, 3:37:10]: As far as um [3:37:11, 3:37:15]: You know, actually getting that input uh from [3:37:15, 3:37:19]: The community that surrounds um Memorial Park. [3:37:19, 3:37:21]: And and you know [3:37:21, 3:37:24]: And I know you have it in this in the in the document, but [3:37:25, 3:37:27]: My concern for memory is the [3:37:28, 3:37:31]: parking and the access in. [3:37:31, 3:37:45]: Yeah. As I stated earlier, I I think Momurray is going to be that part with the highest degree of difficulty to to to accomplish. So I won't sort of bog you down with this now, but. [3:37:45, 3:37:46]: Um [3:37:47, 3:37:48]: Depart. [3:37:49, 3:37:51]: А пар Б. [3:37:51, 3:37:54]: Mm-hmm. The park system plan [3:37:54, 3:37:58]: Um, and I know you talked about identifying and documenting [3:37:58, 3:38:02]: Cedar leader city leadership goals and the [3:38:02, 3:38:04]: uh public engagement strategy. [3:38:05, 3:38:09]: So I just want to make sure and I'd like to be a part of that. [3:38:09, 3:38:14]: Uh if if not for all of the park, but uh for for for sure a memorial. [3:38:15, 3:38:26]: Uh because uh there are some some great needs there. It's a beautiful park, and everyone on this council know that uh it lacks uh uh accessibility and parking. [3:38:27, 3:38:41]: And so uh I'm looking forward to go through this process. I heard you mention the timelines and and I understand that and and even the financing, but I just wanted sort of just reiterate those because those are my concerns. [3:38:41, 3:39:01]: uh for memorial park. And so when we get to that point, uh and Mr. Arid knows as he and I have talked over years about uh you know these these very same issues. So I I'm I'm I'm um I'm excited about uh you know we moving forward with this and I think the citizens in that area [3:39:01, 3:39:07]: will be as well. So uh I will be patient enough to wait till we sort of get to that point. [3:39:07, 3:39:10]: But I look forward to uh engaging. [3:39:10, 3:39:16]: along with uh community folks um in all of the park but specifically memorial park. [3:39:18, 3:39:22]: And let me just add, and and it's not in this scope. [3:39:23, 3:39:32]: uh but during the my engagement with community folks, uh that is a concern for a park um [3:39:33, 3:39:44]: on the south side of the city. Again, it's not in this scope. And I know when we start talking about these things, I know you know we have to identify funding sources. [3:39:44, 3:39:54]: But I just want to sort of put that on everyone's radar that we have to at some point in time look at how can we provide uh some type of uh park. [3:39:55, 3:39:58]: uh on the south side uh of the city [3:39:58, 3:40:12]: And so Mayor, I'll yield back for now with that, but I look forward and how we go forward. And I hope that there is some movement ongoingly with this project. [3:40:14, 3:40:16]: No problem, sir. Thank you. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [3:40:16, 3:40:17]: Yeah, thank you. Um [3:40:18, 3:40:32]: I appreciate the thorough assessment and um you know you guys do fine work and I expect for you to uh be able to come up with something just bold for Memorial Park for the new entrance that we're looking for. [3:40:33, 3:40:35]: Uh that will add uh the connectivity. [3:40:36, 3:40:40]: Thank the thank the Lord. We got the T Sploss Pass. [3:40:40, 3:40:43]: And Rock Quarry Road is gonna have a ten foot path. [3:40:43, 3:40:45]: And a major road running right down through there. [3:40:46, 3:40:48]: Our objective is to connect to it. [3:40:48, 3:40:51]: That's the task right there is to connect to it. [3:40:51, 3:40:53]: And the connectivity. [3:40:53, 3:40:56]: Uh working with the PAF Foundation through this. [3:40:56, 3:40:59]: It's a perfect synergy because we got the two top notch. [3:41:00, 3:41:02]: Entities working on this plan for us. [3:41:03, 3:41:04]: When the funding just [3:41:04, 3:41:06]: hit us all at one time. So [3:41:06, 3:41:08]: We certainly do appreciate that. [3:41:09, 3:41:14]: And I think that was a component of this that was going to be forward thinking. Is that not? [3:41:15, 3:41:20]: Is that not correct in terms of possibly identifying uh other park future park areas? [3:41:20, 3:41:26]: Well yeah, I I was gonna respond to that. Um, so as part of the system plan portion. [3:41:27, 3:41:47]: Yes. Uh if there's a need for for more parkland, you know, there's a couple ways we'll identify it. We're gonna do an we'll do just an analysis like uh based on based on um some kind of standards, but I mean also based on community input. So kind of our final assessment is gonna be the intersection. [3:41:47, 3:41:56]: of both of those things, um, including input from the steering committee. So I'm already hearing it now. So I'm guessing that one of the [3:41:56, 3:42:00]: I'm guessing that probably one of the outcomes of the study. [3:42:00, 3:42:02]: Will be [3:42:02, 3:42:04]: You know, potentially a location for a new park. [3:42:05, 3:42:09]: And that will be prior, you know, the design or the further. [3:42:10, 3:42:15]: uh development of that will will be in one of the priorities uh somewhere. So [3:42:15, 3:42:17]: Yeah, it's definitely part of part B for sure. [3:42:18, 3:42:24]: And and and then now I want to take that next level. And the mayor's talked about it and we talked about it. [3:42:25, 3:42:26]: As part of the connectivity [3:42:27, 3:42:28]: In the parts. [3:42:28, 3:42:29]: In the trail system. [3:42:30, 3:42:33]: And now we're engaged with Norfolk Southern. We need a tunnel. [3:42:34, 3:42:38]: Up under uh the Norfolk Southern line connecting [3:42:38, 3:42:39]: Clark Park. [3:42:40, 3:42:41]: to Gardner Park. [3:42:42, 3:42:46]: Uh in that area and now's the time because we got Norfolk Southern's ear. [3:42:47, 3:42:47]: To kind of [3:42:48, 3:43:08]: Get some conversation going with you all in the Pair Foundation. You have been involved in these intricate processes, but that's the that's the one connection that would make pull everything together if you could connect Clark Park to Gardner Park via that tunnel. And I was over there just the other day. [3:43:08, 3:43:11]: Day there's a viaduct stormwater viaduct running through there. [3:43:12, 3:43:15]: under the tracks already. So there is some [3:43:15, 3:43:19]: Uh there there somebody did a storm water up underneath that area, so [3:43:19, 3:43:31]: they were uh conducive to debt at some point. So we just need to make sure that we get them at the table to be able to uh move this forward. But all of this is the connectivity. [3:43:31, 3:43:37]: to pull everything together that we're working for so somebody could come to downtown. [3:43:37, 3:43:49]: park their car, their electric vehicle, charge it, get on the trail and fru move throughout the city without ever uh getting on getting back in the vehicle again. [3:43:49, 3:43:54]: Those are the high level things that we're talking about. And I know that you guys will hit a home run on that. [3:43:58, 3:44:00]: Outstanding concept. [3:44:01, 3:44:06]: Need look need look at doing that. Exactly right. Any other comments from Mr. Bays? [3:44:08, 3:44:20]: All right, so on this motion, I I I guess we need a motion here to accept this proposal um for him to go forward with this. Is there a mo so move? So move. Okay, is there a second? [3:44:21, 3:44:25]: Miss Barber second Miss Barber saw her hand for a second. Any further discussion? [3:44:26, 3:44:27]: All in favor, please indicate. [3:44:28, 3:44:28]: Uh [3:44:28, 3:44:37]: Okay. All right. Seems like that's a unanimous decision. I appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Bays. We appreciate your presentation. Thank you very much. Thank you, everybody. I appreciate it. [3:44:38, 3:44:39]: Okay. [3:44:39, 3:44:48]: We now go into our public hearing. This is a budget hearing for our second reading. Um this is proposed FY 2022 operating budget. Mr. Wiggins, please. [3:44:54, 3:44:58]: Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council. I'm gonna share my screen real quick. [3:44:58, 3:44:59]: Okay. [3:45:08, 3:45:09]: Did everybody see that? [3:45:09, 3:45:10]: Oh, we can't, sir. [3:45:11, 3:45:18]: Make make a little lar there okay, that's that's probably good. That's good. Okay. Let's see how that [3:45:20, 3:45:30]: All right, this is a um City of Stockbridge proposed FY 2022 budget hearing, second reading for November 30th, 2022. [3:45:34, 3:45:49]: The budget has um in the general fund eighteen million two hundred and eighty one thousand three level. One one second, John. Could you make it just a little smaller? Because it's really off the screen now too. It's a little way too big. This if you make a little smaller, maybe just a little bit. [3:45:51, 3:45:55]: That's that's that's better. That's better. Okay, sorry about that. [3:45:57, 3:46:16]: Enterprise fund is at twenty-four million nine hundred eleven thousand seven hundred eighty-five dollars and thirty-nine cents. The total um for the FY22 budget is forty-three million one hundred and ninety-three thousand ninety-six dollars and fifty-nine cents. [3:46:18, 3:46:18]: Okay. [3:46:19, 3:46:25]: Changes from the first um budget reading on November eighth, twenty twenty one. [3:46:26, 3:46:27]: We have [3:46:28, 3:46:29]: General Fawn. [3:46:29, 3:46:36]: Changed from 17.4 million to 18.2 million. That was an eight hundred some thousand dollar increase. [3:46:37, 3:46:39]: Uh that was um [3:46:40, 3:46:41]: We change uh [3:46:42, 3:46:45]: New police department changed from two point six million. [3:46:46, 3:46:47]: So three point three million. [3:46:47, 3:46:50]: increased by seven hundred some thousand. [3:46:50, 3:46:53]: Public works department increased about a hundred thousand. [3:46:53, 3:46:55]: For the North Henry beautification project. [3:46:57, 3:47:01]: Enterprise funds state remained the same at twenty-four point nine million. [3:47:02, 3:47:08]: And this budget also includes all sixty-three new positions descriptions. [3:47:08, 3:47:09]: And organization chart. [3:47:11, 3:47:13]: Fifty eight police positions. [3:47:13, 3:47:15]: Three community development. [3:47:16, 3:47:19]: positions, one municipal court position and one HR position. [3:47:21, 3:47:21]: And that [3:47:23, 3:47:28]: includes a small summary of what's in the budget for the second reading. [3:47:30, 3:47:37]: So any in that note accounts or any questions or clarification from you at all in reference to this. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [3:47:38, 3:47:49]: So I wanted to know because I actually emailed a few suggestions and forgive me, I'm still learning this process. [3:47:50, 3:47:53]: Providing my feedback on things that I'd like to see. [3:47:54, 3:47:55]: Um [3:47:55, 3:47:57]: How do I go about doing that? Because um [3:47:58, 3:48:00]: I believe the last reading. [3:48:00, 3:48:05]: uh councilman thomas actually read off his suggestions for the record. [3:48:05, 3:48:06]: Should I do the same? [3:48:07, 3:48:08]: Yeah, sure, sure. Go ahead. [3:48:09, 3:48:10]: Yeah, yes, you can. [3:48:12, 3:48:32]: Okay, um and a few of these I already emailed to the mayor and council. Um one is for the org chart. I know that there is a grants um specialist position of some sort, but it's reporting to the finance or treasurer. I'd like to move that position. [3:48:32, 3:48:35]: to report under the city manager. [3:48:36, 3:48:38]: Also, I wanted to add [3:48:38, 3:48:42]: A new grants position under police services. [3:48:44, 3:48:48]: Um you're trying to form two positions here. I mean you're trying to [3:48:49, 3:48:55]: Yes, one reporting to the city manager and one reporting to police services. [3:48:56, 3:49:00]: And you can remove the grants position under the treasurer. [3:49:02, 3:49:04]: Well when you when you um [3:49:05, 3:49:07]: When you're looking for a grants writer. [3:49:07, 3:49:08]: You know. [3:49:08, 3:49:13]: Uh I I think it should be more of a grants manager or grants accountant. [3:49:14, 3:49:15]: Because it's gonna be a lot of accounting. [3:49:16, 3:49:20]: That's gonna have to go along with just uh with the grants. [3:49:20, 3:49:22]: You know, writing grants you [3:49:22, 3:49:26]: Somebody's gonna have to administer the grant and somebody's gonna have to account for the grant. [3:49:27, 3:49:31]: And that means when I mean accounting, you're gonna have to deal with the auditors. [3:49:32, 3:49:35]: Because you're gonna get audited for doing doing the grant. [3:49:35, 3:49:36]: You know, putting up the [3:49:37, 3:49:41]: The city manager m typically city manager doesn't really have [3:49:41, 3:49:43]: That particular position up on the [3:49:44, 3:49:47]: That department uses in um [3:49:48, 3:49:56]: It has its own grants, administration department, or it stays within the administration or finance. But [3:49:58, 3:50:06]: This is this is this is this is a um you know this is for the council. It's just my perspective on that particular position. [3:50:09, 3:50:09]: Well okay. What [3:50:10, 3:50:20]: I would think that the that uh if the grant writer is initially with the the treasurer, I don't see why it wouldn't need to move. We just need to be f maybe fulfill the requirement. [3:50:21, 3:50:27]: But I kinda wonder whether or not whether you move it or not, why would you need two? Because I think that individual will be fully occupied. [3:50:28, 3:50:38]: working for general grant information across the board under the treasure as well as for the police department. I I don't understand why we would need uh two individuals doing that across the board, tell you truth. [3:50:38, 3:50:43]: Well, because the the city has several, well, a lot of capital projects. [3:50:44, 3:50:45]: That we need [3:50:45, 3:50:48]: Individuals specifically dedicated [3:50:49, 3:50:50]: Four [3:50:50, 3:50:58]: City projects, and then an individual specifically dedicated for police service projects. [3:50:59, 3:51:11]: That was my thought process. Yeah. Make sure that we are capitalizing on these grant opportunities. Um, and I believe having one person designated to do that. [3:51:11, 3:51:14]: it won't be enough. It will be overwhelming. [3:51:14, 3:51:15]: For one person. [3:51:16, 3:51:18]: to be at the table. [3:51:19, 3:51:22]: trying to s look at all these opportun identify all these opportunities. [3:51:23, 3:51:25]: We really need to. [3:51:25, 3:51:29]: right now with the way um funding is coming from the federal and state level. [3:51:30, 3:51:37]: need to make sure that we're at the table and we're capitalizing on these opportunities. Again, these are just my suggestions. [3:51:38, 3:51:39]: That was number one. [3:51:40, 3:51:41]: Um number two. [3:51:41, 3:51:42]: Suggestion. [3:51:43, 3:51:56]: Um, I wanted to see us and I did consult with a couple of police departments. The municipal court or administration of courts are usually under police services. [3:51:56, 3:52:01]: I like to see us move that on the org chart under police services if we can. [3:52:03, 3:52:11]: What was that again? The um you said the municipal municipal court administration. Court administration. Yes. Mayor? Yes, ma'am. [3:52:12, 3:52:17]: Can I I have to object? Okay, let her go. I'm sorry. She wasn't finished. I'll wait. [3:52:18, 3:52:20]: Go ahead, uh Miss Barber. [3:52:21, 3:52:24]: Everyone except for the judge. [3:52:24, 3:52:29]: All the other employees of the courts would report to police services. [3:52:31, 3:52:32]: That's the second suggestion. [3:52:33, 3:52:34]: The third suggestion. [3:52:34, 3:52:36]: Із то мove конфорсне. [3:52:36, 3:52:38]: Under police services as well. [3:52:42, 3:52:49]: My fourth suggestion is to reduce and I'm trying to see for public works technicians. [3:52:49, 3:52:52]: Um Mr. Wiggins, was it eight? [3:52:53, 3:52:55]: Positions or is it eleven? [3:52:56, 3:53:01]: For public works. Yes. Public works already already had eight positions. [3:53:02, 3:53:03]: Um that [3:53:04, 3:53:06]: I think Dish has been trying to feel [3:53:06, 3:53:11]: um that they feel and then they might drop out, somebody might quit. [3:53:11, 3:53:12]: Um [3:53:12, 3:53:14]: These is our eight positions. [3:53:15, 3:53:18]: Okay, so it is already been in the been that's been in the budget. [3:53:18, 3:53:20]: Okay, I'd like to reduce that from eight to two. [3:53:21, 3:53:21]: Mm-hmm. [3:53:22, 3:53:22]: No. [3:53:22, 3:53:24]: Yes. Um [3:53:25, 3:53:26]: Okay. And number five. [3:53:28, 3:53:35]: Um the amphitheater operations, when I looked at the um budget. [3:53:36, 3:53:38]: Several of the line items are blank. [3:53:39, 3:53:40]: Such as lighting. [3:53:41, 3:53:43]: So nothing is no projected. [3:53:43, 3:53:47]: cost or expense is there. So I'd like to see all of [3:53:47, 3:53:51]: Um some type of projection in each of those line items. [3:53:52, 3:53:53]: Um [3:53:53, 3:53:54]: We can we can do that. [3:53:55, 3:53:57]: Okay. And number six. [3:53:58, 3:54:10]: Um, can you tell me if there are line items for the renovations for Ted Strickland, Merlmanders, and down uh downstairs of City Hall? I wasn't able to find that. [3:54:12, 3:54:14]: Is that in the budget for 2022? [3:54:14, 3:54:16]: Renovation for downstairs city hall. [3:54:17, 3:54:18]: Yes. Now what [3:54:20, 3:54:22]: That that that no, that's not in the budget. [3:54:23, 3:54:24]: We didn't put the [3:54:24, 3:54:29]: That wasn't put in the budget because um it was voted out last time. [3:54:30, 3:54:33]: So then didn't know if that needed to go back in there. [3:54:33, 3:54:45]: Yes, I'd like to include um the renovations to downtown downstairs of city halls. The renovation to the Ted Strickland, is that included in the 2022 budget? [3:54:46, 3:54:48]: It's in the capital CIP. [3:54:48, 3:54:49]: Okay. [3:54:50, 3:54:54]: And the Merr Manders Center that's in the budget as well. [3:54:55, 3:54:55]: Yeah. [3:54:58, 3:54:59]: Mm-hmm. [3:54:59, 3:55:00]: Far as um [3:55:01, 3:55:03]: construction. I don't I don't know how much that would be. [3:55:05, 3:55:06]: Do not have a total cost of [3:55:07, 3:55:09]: How much the renovation [3:55:09, 3:55:11]: is gonna be to be put into the budget. [3:55:11, 3:55:19]: Okay, so Mr. Aaron and I believe um Mr Canuel was supposed to bring back a quote. So [3:55:20, 3:55:21]: Please follow up with them. [3:55:22, 3:55:26]: So that's the sixth item. The seventh is um [3:55:27, 3:55:35]: I wanted us to take a closer look at the salaries that was submitted for the municipal court judge and the solicitor. [3:55:36, 3:55:49]: Um, I believe the salary for 2022 that was submitted for the judge was$65,000 a year. And for the solicitor, it was for$55,000 or might have been$50,000. [3:55:50, 3:55:52]: Um. [3:55:52, 3:55:53]: I'm sorry. [3:55:53, 3:55:54]: No, you're correct. [3:55:54, 3:55:56]: Okay. However [3:55:56, 3:55:56]: Um [3:55:57, 3:56:03]: There won't be an increase to their workload until the police department is up and running in July. [3:56:05, 3:56:06]: So to pay them a or [3:56:07, 3:56:10]: To have in the budget for a the full salary. [3:56:10, 3:56:12]: I don't think that would be [3:56:12, 3:56:13]: Accurate. [3:56:13, 3:56:16]: I emailed um my calculations. [3:56:17, 3:56:18]: for the first half of the year. [3:56:19, 3:56:20]: If we can [3:56:21, 3:56:29]: Project what they've been making in 2021 for the first half and then the second half, then divide that by. [3:56:29, 3:56:33]: I don't know. Um, six, seven months. [3:56:33, 3:56:34]: Mm-hmm. [3:56:35, 3:56:45]: divide salary of sixty five thousand dollars by seven months and that should get you a cost that you can put in for the budget for those two positions. [3:56:45, 3:56:48]: Yeah, before the judge the judge had a set cost on [3:56:49, 3:56:54]: Whenever he went to trial, he just had a set cost of what he got paid. It it wasn't our actual salary. [3:56:55, 3:56:57]: It was just a set set cost, but [3:56:57, 3:56:59]: Issue of salary was trying to be implemented. [3:57:00, 3:57:05]: Right, and we shouldn't include the full salary because they won't be fully functional. [3:57:06, 3:57:08]: Until July when the [3:57:08, 3:57:12]: police department is rolled out. That's correct. That's my bottle. [3:57:14, 3:57:22]: Okay, and include that's for the municipal court judge and the solicitor and the deputy court clerk. So those three positions. [3:57:23, 3:57:26]: might want to give an average. Um number eight. [3:57:27, 3:57:29]: Wait, you know the deputy clerk. [3:57:30, 3:57:32]: It's basically already there, I think. [3:57:33, 3:57:35]: Their position is already already there. [3:57:37, 3:57:38]: Is it [3:57:40, 3:57:41]: No, I don't think it's I don't think [3:57:42, 3:57:42]: No. [3:57:43, 3:57:44]: But the applicator, yeah, because [3:57:46, 3:57:49]: Not clear. Not I can okay. I have to take a look at it. [3:57:49, 3:57:54]: Well looking at this the original budget that I have, it shows it's vacant, but okay. [3:57:54, 3:58:14]: Number eight, I wanted us to take a closer look, perhaps and look the personnel policy to state that staff members must be employed for one full year before they are eligible for cost of living increases, bonuses, and merit increases. In fact, I'd like for us to freeze bonuses for 2022. [3:58:17, 3:58:18]: Your number [3:58:19, 3:58:20]: No. [3:58:21, 3:58:24]: Oh, these are just questions that I had. [3:58:24, 3:58:26]: That's all. That's all I had. [3:58:28, 3:58:48]: Okay, then these are recommendations. So otherwise these are your recommendations. Obviously, before we make movement on any of this or come to some type of change in or anything, there's have to be some type of consensus across the board in reference to these recommendations andor something that makes good logical sense, I would imagine. [3:58:48, 3:58:49]: Yeah. [3:58:50, 3:58:50]: Yes, sir. [3:58:51, 3:58:52]: Okay. [3:58:52, 3:58:57]: So what I so m excuse, I'm sorry, Mayor. I think what what needs to happen is um [3:58:59, 3:59:03]: In the mayor's correct, all the recommendations need to be [3:59:03, 3:59:07]: Uh um decided on because we only have one more budget hearing. [3:59:08, 3:59:10]: to uh vote on the budget and [3:59:11, 3:59:13]: I'm gonna need a list of what [3:59:13, 3:59:14]: Everybody [3:59:15, 3:59:18]: has discussed and what everybody has has agreed on. [3:59:19, 3:59:22]: to uh move forward and putting everything in the budget. [3:59:23, 3:59:35]: And I would say that the justification of of why uh why this all should happen in this aspect, real justification of this and clever and to some discussion about this. Cause you're talking about some some uh [3:59:35, 3:59:37]: Some um big moves here. [3:59:37, 3:59:57]: You you know, you're talking about the police department, which the chief is right here. I mean, you ever d talk of him further about some of these things about code enforcement and and about uh the actual court uh courthouse itself, things of that nature, the court operations. He needs to buy in on that and find out what what is uh what his opinion thoughts are. I don't know and I don't know if they [3:59:57, 3:59:58]: George. [3:59:58, 4:00:05]: I did speak with the chief and I spoke with the community development director and they both seemed to be okay with it. [4:00:06, 4:00:07]: Chief trailer. [4:00:07, 4:00:14]: Is he all wrong? Yeah, he is, but wait, stand by a second. Stand by a second. But see, all these things, these recommendations in reference to [4:00:14, 4:00:34]: uh well the amphitheater and and uh and recommendations for what uh guess the some uh recommendations to renovate Ted Strickland the Merrill Manner's conference I believe uh took down there. Um and then you're talking about uh the salaries and now the salaries you know I I think it's probably a session discussion when you talk about [4:00:34, 4:00:44]: salaries for for uh employees in this aspect. I think that's probably something that probably needs to go exactly session before we we actually have open discussion with the public on this, I would think. [4:00:44, 4:00:48]: And I know our attorneys aren't with us right now, but that's what I kind of assume. [4:00:48, 4:00:50]: Yeah. Yes, ma'am. [4:00:50, 4:00:56]: I whenever you finish, I I just have a couple of statements about what we're doing right now for this budget. [4:00:56, 4:01:16]: Right, I got it. And then uh then the personnel policy issues as as well. Uh you have to have some real thought in that and and reference that. And I know Ms. Muela is not online right now and in this aspect as well. But um I mean this is some real thought that with uh and discussion that has to occur uh with the council across the board and with [4:01:16, 4:01:21]: the staff primary staff interviews that affects these the particular recommendations here that you're mentioning. [4:01:22, 4:01:26]: Um on that note, um the go ahead, Miss Gantt. [4:01:27, 4:01:29]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [4:01:29, 4:01:30]: I was [4:01:30, 4:01:35]: Again, I ask if everybody, Ms. uh Councilman Thomas, Councilman Barber. [4:01:36, 4:01:44]: Miffer, Tim, Alexander, any of us, if we have some changes or concerns, if we can all put them on email so we can really actually do the research on it. [4:01:45, 4:01:51]: Um, I am in total objection to the police department b the the court being [4:01:52, 4:01:56]: direct response to the police department, I believe that is a conflict of interest. [4:01:57, 4:02:17]: Um, as a previous solicitor for the city of Stockbridge and looking at just an example, the city of Duluth, the city of Suwannee, looking at their organizational charts, not one, the courts and the police are separate entities, and they're separate entities for a reason. Um, in fact, most courts. [4:02:17, 4:02:37]: administrations are under the judge, even the clerks that are although they're full-time, they are under the judge. Um and let's let me give an example. Even mayor and council, although we are part-time, we um you know have the directors and everyone to report to us. Another concern I have is um [4:02:37, 4:02:43]: um possible charter uh overlooking the charter by [4:02:43, 4:02:47]: Of course, if we ask a director or anyone [4:02:47, 4:02:54]: Whether or not they're okay with us doing specific things instead of going through the city manager. [4:02:54, 4:02:56]: Ri right now, which is you, Mayor. [4:02:56, 4:03:05]: Um, I don't think that it is appropriate for any council member to discuss or to um [4:03:05, 4:03:08]: go one on one with any employee. [4:03:09, 4:03:29]: Directors included, asking if this is okay if I change your your job description or add these things under there. I think there should be some type of protocol in place. And I think that we should follow the charter in regards to that. I do have some concerns about that. Um, and I also think that [4:03:29, 4:03:30]: When it comes to [4:03:31, 4:03:32]: Police services. [4:03:33, 4:03:48]: our chief uh i understand i can understand code enforcement that makes sense i mean uh they're they're enforcing laws such as the our police officers but when you come when you're dealing with the co the court [4:03:48, 4:03:54]: Everyone is just um not gonna be just ready on day one. They have to have some prep time. [4:03:55, 4:03:58]: We had four hundred hearings a day. [4:03:58, 4:04:18]: in court you don't have court every single day and it was broken up into a m hours and p.m hours there were three clerks one clerk which was anita i um i forgot her last name gunno and then you had pam and you had another and i believe we had um there were two there were three clerks [4:04:19, 4:04:24]: uh two assistants and one main clerk. And then you had your detective. [4:04:24, 4:04:34]: And the police services that you read about in other organizational charts that deal with court services, they're talking about security and bailiffs. [4:04:34, 4:04:38]: I just pulled up the city of Duluth right now. None of them. [4:04:39, 4:04:51]: The courts, the judges report, they're the main person that reports over to the city manager in regards to the courts. Police services are in charge of the um [4:04:52, 4:04:54]: the the security [4:04:55, 4:05:02]: services of the court, but to file look let's say a police uh writes a ticket, speeding ticket. [4:05:02, 4:05:08]: When you when a solicitor calls them up for trial, you're telling me that the person running the courtroom. [4:05:09, 4:05:19]: The police is in char the chief is in charge of not only th in charge of the people who are running the courtroom as well as [4:05:20, 4:05:27]: Who also report to a judge as well as they have someone on the witness stand. [4:05:28, 4:05:41]: I mean it that's a big conflict there. And I would um ask everyone to go and look at all types of org charts and and and see that I think that's a line that we just really don't want to cross. [4:05:42, 4:05:51]: Um, and so I I want us to take into consideration all of the suggestions that are made. I have some myself. [4:05:51, 4:05:52]: Um including [4:05:53, 4:05:55]: Um from admin. [4:05:55, 4:06:12]: And and and also looking at and reviewing job descriptions. But I think that we would be here all night trying to go down those lists. So we need to do it. I guess I guess we need to send out emails to everybody on the changes that we wish to make and at some point have a discussion on it. [4:06:15, 4:06:29]: All right, thank you for that. Any other comments thus far in reference to uh the budget for the second reading convention? I'm gonna have to hear shortly, I'm gonna have to open up to the public. I don't know if we have any public comments or not, but I have to at least have to open it up. [4:06:29, 4:06:30]: Sure. [4:06:30, 4:06:32]: I have one could go ahead and [4:06:32, 4:06:52]: Yeah, go ahead, Ms. Darren. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I was just wondering what was the reasoning behind reducing the staffing for public works. We fought hard last year to get those positions because everything is increasing. And the only reason we didn't feel those positions, because now with COVID,$13 an hour, a lot of people got a lot more options now. [4:06:52, 4:06:54]: than they had before. [4:06:54, 4:07:03]: And if you reduce that number from eight to two, it's really gonna hurt the department because you already stretched thin in the areas that you're working in. [4:07:03, 4:07:08]: And that was that's my only concern because something is gonna go lacking because you won't have the resources. [4:07:13, 4:07:14]: Is that a question for me? [4:07:15, 4:07:19]: Yeah, I would say so since I am that was my concern. [4:07:19, 4:07:26]: Okay. So the reason being is and I know that thirteen dollars an hour is um a bit [4:07:27, 4:07:29]: Challenging to get someone. [4:07:29, 4:07:32]: To come on board with that. I was hoping that. [4:07:33, 4:07:34]: Perhaps Dan. [4:07:34, 4:07:38]: would look at other ways to increase the salary. [4:07:38, 4:07:40]: So would be more attractive. [4:07:41, 4:07:41]: To people. [4:07:42, 4:07:43]: Um [4:07:43, 4:07:46]: It didn't happen. Those positions went unfilled. [4:07:47, 4:07:49]: Not only that, we're contracting out. [4:07:49, 4:07:52]: A lot of services from public works. [4:07:53, 4:07:54]: Landscaping. [4:07:54, 4:07:55]: Free training. [4:07:56, 4:07:57]: Um right of way maintenance. [4:07:58, 4:08:03]: So I figured since we're already contracting out a lot of those services. [4:08:03, 4:08:04]: Um [4:08:05, 4:08:07]: We've been getting by. [4:08:07, 4:08:10]: Pretty good this year with the staff that we have. [4:08:10, 4:08:12]: Um but of course these are just [4:08:13, 4:08:14]: Сугінсь фмі. [4:08:15, 4:08:19]: Um I'm the only one who um is making this suggestion. [4:08:19, 4:08:25]: And I welcome my councilmates to offer other solutions, but those positions remain. [4:08:26, 4:08:27]: And field. [4:08:28, 4:08:28]: So I figure [4:08:30, 4:08:33]: You all aren't aggressively looking to recruit for them. [4:08:33, 4:08:36]: So we shouldn't include them in the twenty twenty two budget. [4:08:37, 4:08:40]: Because they weren't feel this year. [4:08:41, 4:08:46]: I think how many people did you uh were you able to hire this year? [4:08:46, 4:09:01]: We got one person, but we had that conversation the other day. They say uh council made a decision that a starting pay would be thirteen dollars an hour. When you compete with Yeah, we made that decision. We certainly did. That's what [4:09:02, 4:09:06]: That's what the starting salary was, you know, and rem Miss Wheeler and I [4:09:07, 4:09:15]: Had a conversation the other day with the mayor about the starting salary was so low. That's why we haven't been able to fill those positions. But [4:09:15, 4:09:26]: The the thing is we've been working diligently, but everybody is facing that shortage. Trying to find personnel, trying to recruit recruit staff is it's just been difficult. [4:09:27, 4:09:47]: Uh Mayor Pro Tem, I guess you have your hand up. The the final thing I say is when you bring somebody in above 13 and they're competing with someone that's been here for five to ten plus years, then that's difficult for the person that has been here and improving themselves to the city and you're gonna bring somebody in near the amount they're making or equal to what they're making. [4:09:47, 4:09:50]: And it just causes issues within the department. [4:09:53, 4:09:55]: Yeah, I understand that. Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [4:09:56, 4:09:57]: Very quickly. No [4:09:58, 4:09:59]: This is what we need to do. [4:10:00, 4:10:03]: In my estimation, which is one of the suggestions that I want. [4:10:03, 4:10:09]: I think first of all we should have a fifteen million fifteen dollar minimum wage across the board. [4:10:09, 4:10:29]: bringing everybody up to the competitive level of where we are right now. But that as Mr. Aaron said, it would be unfair so that measure requires an additional step to go out and then survey what uh other employees are making above$15 an hour because this is the budget time now. So [4:10:29, 4:10:31]: the people who have already been here. [4:10:31, 4:10:33]: Would have to get an increase also. [4:10:33, 4:10:37]: As I've gone around and I've talked to employee after employee. [4:10:37, 4:10:43]: After patting myself on the chest for getting a previous survey done, I was told [4:10:43, 4:10:50]: I didn't get I only got 10 cents. I only got five cents. It didn't reach us. So I think what she should we should do is test staff. [4:10:51, 4:10:52]: We're going out. [4:10:52, 4:10:55]: And doing another survey. [4:10:55, 4:10:58]: Inclusive of the entire metro Atlanta area. [4:10:59, 4:11:09]: to make sure the staff salaries are competitive. And we understand that corporations out there now,$15 is the minimum. And if you want to get [4:11:09, 4:11:29]: Decent employees,$15 needs to be the minimum because otherwise the positions are never going to be filled. That is what is going on out there. It's it's very competitive, but in the end, you get what you pay for. And again, this is just my recommendation. And Ms. Barber made her recommend. [4:11:29, 4:11:48]: Recommendations, we will all do that and discuss that. But this is how I would solve the problem bringing everybody up to a competitive wage because as leaders here, we have one task. That is when somebody clocks in to work for the city of Stockbridge, they should be able to take care of their family. [4:11:49, 4:11:52]: And when rents are seventeen to eighteen hundred dollars a month. [4:11:53, 4:11:54]: Out there. [4:11:54, 4:12:00]: making ten or eleven dollars an hour does not even get you a place to stay in our area. [4:12:00, 4:12:05]: So we need to deal with that and to make sure that our employees make a living wage. [4:12:07, 4:12:09]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [4:12:09, 4:12:10]: Uh [4:12:12, 4:12:18]: What what I I what I think we're all overlooking, and I know we've sort of been through [4:12:18, 4:12:19]: Um [4:12:19, 4:12:22]: Буджет цикл збифо. [4:12:23, 4:12:28]: But I I I think we saw the just missing, you know, the the the processes here. [4:12:28, 4:12:30]: Uh in the budget. [4:12:30, 4:12:34]: When we approve the budget, and I'm looking down at my notes. [4:12:34, 4:12:35]: Uh the [4:12:35, 4:12:38]: pay class schedule [4:12:38, 4:12:44]: Uh and and we're if we're looking at uh the position of a public works technician. [4:12:45, 4:12:47]: This is where we [4:12:47, 4:12:51]: If we want to ig if we want to increase that to fifteen dollars. [4:12:51, 4:12:53]: This is where we do that. [4:12:54, 4:12:56]: i in a motion form and and it's voted on. [4:12:57, 4:12:58]: Let me just say that number one. [4:12:59, 4:12:59]: Um [4:13:00, 4:13:06]: Uh it's been a long night. Now I've gone through the budget like I do every year and I have [4:13:07, 4:13:08]: Um [4:13:08, 4:13:15]: Sort of detected at least a uh one a million five in savings. [4:13:15, 4:13:16]: That I have seen. [4:13:17, 4:13:21]: I'm not gonna try to present that, but I will put that out to the full council. [4:13:21, 4:13:28]: uh in various uh line items. But what I'd like to do, Mayor, I'd like to set up a meeting with you. [4:13:29, 4:13:32]: And all of the uh department heads. [4:13:33, 4:13:34]: to discuss [4:13:35, 4:13:36]: Um [4:13:36, 4:13:39]: Well what I see as as saving for the city. [4:13:40, 4:13:45]: And I'd like to get a better understanding from department heads because they are the ones that have [4:13:46, 4:13:55]: Created these wish lists, and I want to I I just need a better explanation why uh some of the budget line items have have increased. [4:13:55, 4:13:58]: And but again for for everyone on the council. [4:13:59, 4:14:16]: It's a process that we have to go through and we have to go through the budget. We have to look at line items. And if we have recommendation or suggestion, this is where we make those uh recommendations. And things have to go into a motion. [4:14:16, 4:14:29]: uh for the council to approve. I understand we we're just talking and I think you know suggestions are rightfully so. But at this last um budget hearing, [4:14:29, 4:14:45]: All of these things will have to be put into a motion. We have to go into the budget. We have to look at the line items. We have to look at the departments and see where we want to make these changes. And I say that because the [4:14:45, 4:14:49]: Um managers well the department heads. [4:14:49, 4:14:51]: have presented [4:14:51, 4:14:52]: A budget. [4:14:53, 4:14:55]: It is up to this council. [4:14:55, 4:14:57]: Whether we approve [4:14:58, 4:15:00]: This budget the way it is now. [4:15:01, 4:15:02]: So now [4:15:02, 4:15:03]: The the [4:15:04, 4:15:06]: Directors have suggested [4:15:07, 4:15:07]: What [4:15:08, 4:15:09]: They desire. [4:15:09, 4:15:12]: It is up to us now to say [4:15:12, 4:15:20]: Well, yay or nay, or this is what we recommend, and we make those changes accordingly. [4:15:20, 4:15:37]: Uh but before I close just on that and and mayor, I will get with you again. I will put this out to you. I would like to meet with you, Mayor, and all of the um department heads and any other council members uh that wants to meet with me. And I was gonna ask the attorneys. [4:15:37, 4:15:41]: Um it would this be more of informational? [4:15:42, 4:15:47]: As opposed to any kind of legislation. And I think that we can meet [4:15:47, 4:15:50]: to discuss just for information because [4:15:51, 4:16:07]: What I need is is reasoning why uh some of these line items have increased. And this is what I need in order for me to be able to vote yay or nay on the proposed budget. And let's remember it is a proposed. [4:16:07, 4:16:08]: Betty. [4:16:08, 4:16:12]: And it is up to council, it is our responsibility. [4:16:12, 4:16:13]: To approve the [4:16:14, 4:16:27]: or to amend or to make changes based on what uh the directors have suggested that they won't. And this but it's uh it's uh up it is up to us again. But let me uh go back to Mr. Wiggins. [4:16:27, 4:16:37]: Uh and I know my name was referencing some things that I I mentioned at the last meeting, but Mr. Mr. Wigan, I want you to understand that a motion [4:16:37, 4:16:39]: was made. [4:16:39, 4:16:42]: It was second and it it was approved. [4:16:42, 4:16:46]: As far as a job description of a new [4:16:47, 4:16:51]: Let me underline the word it was a new position in HR. [4:16:51, 4:16:55]: So I'm saying this, uh Mr. Wigan, I want to make sure that that [4:16:55, 4:17:02]: Is coming forward and it should have been highlighted uh in this second reading. [4:17:02, 4:17:22]: Again, it was legislated properly. The motion was made and it was second and it was approved. So I'm not sure if it's there, Mr. Wigan, but um that was legally that HR position is still there. I'm Mr. Wigan, repeat the HR position is still there, it hasn't gone anywhere. [4:17:22, 4:17:26]: No, I didn't say the position. I I I mentioned the qualification. [4:17:26, 4:17:27]: For the position. [4:17:28, 4:17:36]: That that that change should be there. And I read that out. Uh it's in the minutes. You can refer back to the city clerk. [4:17:36, 4:17:39]: Not the position, but the qualifications. [4:17:40, 4:17:41]: For that position. [4:17:42, 4:17:45]: And so that should have come forward. [4:17:45, 4:17:49]: Uh with that and I think that was the only [4:17:50, 4:18:00]: That was the now I I know you you read some changes from the first reading to to this reading, but that should also be in the [4:18:00, 4:18:06]: Second reason because uh reading, because that was legislated. So that should be there, number one. [4:18:06, 4:18:11]: Uh but again if I remember right, uh I I think when I uh read [4:18:11, 4:18:14]: A description for that HR position. [4:18:15, 4:18:18]: That was sent out this last time. I thought I saw [4:18:19, 4:18:20]: Ten years on there. [4:18:22, 4:18:29]: that that was the that was the new job script uh madam clerk can you can you read that do you have that handy [4:18:30, 4:18:37]: The motion that was made and and were proved for the qualification. Oh, I understand the motion. I don't have a problem with the motion. [4:18:38, 4:18:41]: I'm saying I guess I guess what I don't know. [4:18:41, 4:18:46]: You didn't you didn't indicate and it and it may be there, but I'm just saying [4:18:46, 4:18:56]: that should be that should be in from the first reading because it had a a a qualification to the second reading. [4:18:56, 4:19:07]: And so that was approved. So that should continue to go forward all the way to the third reading. And it may be that I don't know. You didn't mention that. So I don't know if it was there or not. Oh, I understand. You you you want me to. [4:19:08, 4:19:13]: actually highlight I guess I'm asking you a question did that legislation move forward? [4:19:14, 4:19:20]: Yeah, I remember seeing the description that said 10 years on the HR position. [4:19:20, 4:19:37]: Am I am I right, Vanessa? You're correct. Um I think I just want to make I just want to make sure and I guess and I guess this is I guess I'm saying this to all my counselmates is that this is the way that these things have to come forward. I know we're just talking suggestions now. [4:19:38, 4:19:43]: But we have to put all of these things in some kind of a of of of a motion. [4:19:43, 4:19:44]: And it has to be [4:19:45, 4:19:54]: Uh second it has to be voted on. So what I would recommend to all of us with all of our suggestion, and I have more, trust me, I have more. [4:19:54, 4:19:56]: But we have to take the budget. [4:19:56, 4:20:02]: The way it is, and we have to inject in the budget format. [4:20:03, 4:20:04]: The changes [4:20:05, 4:20:07]: That we want to see. [4:20:07, 4:20:09]: And we have to sort of spell it out. [4:20:10, 4:20:15]: where motions are made. Now it could be it could be into it could be total. [4:20:16, 4:20:36]: That the motion is made to approve the budget the way it is, or we can go through the line items and make those recommendations and make those motions to be included. And so, but the final product is that we're voting on a total final product, not piece by piece by piece. [4:20:36, 4:20:46]: But you have to put those pieces in. So that's why I'm saying that I want the opportunity to meet with the mayor and the department head because. [4:20:46, 4:20:51]: What the uh directors have proposed. [4:20:51, 4:21:11]: I'm not totally uh in agreement with that because I need to know the reason why a director has proposed an increase in a line item. See, the line item could be it could be travel, it could be training, it could be uh hospitality, it could be anything, but I'm just saying. [4:21:11, 4:21:15]: You have to take these lines that way. [4:21:15, 4:21:16]: Two, two. [4:21:16, 4:21:21]: uh agree or disagree or to vote in favor not uh or if you going to [4:21:21, 4:21:28]: uh make some modifications along those line items. So am I I mean am I talking the same language, uh Mr. Wiggins? [4:21:30, 4:21:33]: No you you that's if if if uh [4:21:33, 4:21:41]: Individually, counselor, if you councilman, if you uh you know, you're making a suggestion, you're right. If you if something needs to be [4:21:42, 4:21:43]: Hard coded into the budget. [4:21:44, 4:21:46]: You have to uh make a motion and vote for it. [4:21:47, 4:21:48]: And using [4:21:48, 4:21:51]: Usually with the suggestion you go through and you [4:21:52, 4:21:55]: You compile I compile all the suggestions. [4:21:55, 4:21:57]: Put'em in the budget, see how it works. [4:21:57, 4:21:59]: And then once you take another look at it. [4:22:00, 4:22:05]: And then that's when you in totality, you have you know, the council votes for it. But [4:22:06, 4:22:07]: Like like now, um [4:22:09, 4:22:09]: Uh [4:22:09, 4:22:14]: Everything all the all of the uh suggestions and anything that you [4:22:14, 4:22:20]: you want to see or you want to discuss it all needs to go to the mayor who's who's a uh acting city manager. [4:22:20, 4:22:24]: And then he'll get what get what um myself and all of the um [4:22:25, 4:22:29]: directors and start seeing and making the change, you know. [4:22:30, 4:22:39]: Well Mayor Mr. Mr. Wiggins. Hand by a second. Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead and stop. Let me give you an example, and I'm just gonna use this. [4:22:39, 4:22:50]: Uh and I guess I'm I'm I'm speaking to I know uh Councilwoman Barber said she was new, but I guess I'm speaking to to everyone here. I'm just taking this as an example of one of the [4:22:50, 4:22:57]: uh department that I looked at uh under uh community development, uh planning and zoning. [4:22:57, 4:23:01]: Now say a a certain amount was proposed. [4:23:02, 4:23:04]: It was proposed. [4:23:04, 4:23:10]: I may disagree with what was proposed and I may have an alternative. [4:23:10, 4:23:11]: Uh proposal. [4:23:12, 4:23:19]: And so I will indicate that, but I go through the whole budget and I look at every department. [4:23:19, 4:23:25]: I look at every line item, but what's important is I look at what is being proposed. [4:23:26, 4:23:45]: And so if I agree with that, then everything is okay. But if I don't agree with it, then I'm gonna come with something that I know that that I can live with. And again, if we if we go back and look at all of the um project updates that we had tonight, and we're looking at [4:23:46, 4:23:50]: uh cost, cost, cost, cost, cost. Now a lot of these projects. [4:23:51, 4:23:56]: have a designated funding source, that is well and good. [4:23:56, 4:24:11]: But a lot of these projects do not. So are we gonna have to tap into uh uh uh fund balance to to to finance some of these things? And so I'm um I'm I'm talking sort of long-winded just to get us to understand is that. [4:24:11, 4:24:30]: We have to look at the total picture of operating this city, whether it's the police department, whether it's uh community development, whether it's in uh public works, uh code enforcement. We have to look at all of these line items, but we have to look at what is being proposed. [4:24:30, 4:24:36]: And I could go through, and I've gone through, and like I say, I see uh a million dollar saving. [4:24:37, 4:24:57]: Only because we just got to cut back some. See, I'm not one, I'm not, I'm not Santa Claus. I'm not willing to give folks um uh uh uh just a blind eye to a wish list. And I would recommend to the council that we have to tighten the belt up a little bit. I think we can survive and I think we [4:24:57, 4:25:00]: can still operate without um [4:25:00, 4:25:20]: increasing the budget in certain areas. Some areas of the budget, it does need that. But just because it's a wish list and but just because it is proposed, that doesn't mean that these department heads are going to get that. And I think we have to scrutinize the budget. And I think this is the way that we have to operate. And [4:25:20, 4:25:32]: But again, I understand the fact that we have funding sources that's going to uh alleviate some of the um you know finances coming out of fund balance, which is great, which is good. [4:25:32, 4:25:37]: But I just think we as a council, I think we need to do our due diligence. [4:25:38, 4:25:46]: Go through the budget, look at every department, look at every line item, and see what is being proposed. And you look at that versus. [4:25:47, 4:25:55]: What was proposed last year and the year before that, and the year before that. See, and I'll say this in a lot of in some of these line items. [4:25:55, 4:26:02]: There are monies that are being proposed that over the last three years, the money has never been used. [4:26:02, 4:26:05]: So why would you inflate the budget? [4:26:06, 4:26:15]: with with with with this proposal and the money is not being used, but you can redirect the those money to where it is needed. [4:26:15, 4:26:17]: You see what I'm saying? So [4:26:18, 4:26:19]: That that's who I am. [4:26:19, 4:26:23]: And that's how I look at the budget. And I'm just recommending that. [4:26:23, 4:26:32]: This is how we should look at the budget. So me, I'm I'm gonna cut short right there, but I will get with you, Mr. Mayor, and I will ask for a meeting with. [4:26:33, 4:26:44]: um directors and any council members that want to join. And I have a lot of questions to ask about line item. And and and and Mr. Aaron, just just for you. [4:26:44, 4:26:48]: Um I I one of my questions, I I want to know. [4:26:49, 4:26:49]: Um [4:26:50, 4:27:10]: The cutting zones uh for uh general maintenance. And I know we talked about this before. I want to know um the zones, how often do we cut, how many workers are in these zones, and and what if you want an additional eight folk? So, what are they going to do during the none? [4:27:10, 4:27:10]: And [4:27:11, 4:27:12]: Cut in season. [4:27:12, 4:27:32]: So these are just questions. I know you have answers for these, but I'm just saying I just need to ask the question and I just need to get your response to that. And then after that process, then it may still be okay. But these are questions that I want to ask, and hopefully that you can answer that for me. How many zones, how many uh right-of-way cutting zones do we have? [4:27:32, 4:27:40]: How many workers are in these zones, and how often during the grass cutting season, how often do we cut? [4:27:41, 4:27:45]: And then during the non-cutting season, what do they do? [4:27:46, 4:27:51]: And I think these are legitimate questions, but I have questions for every director. [4:27:52, 4:27:54]: Right. And because of Thanksgiving and [4:27:55, 4:28:13]: you know, campaigning. I just haven't had that opportunity to have this kind of dialogue with with all of the directors, but I do plan to do that before the thirteenth of December. Okay, we'll we'll set it up. We'll set everything up. Uh we'll work through the process, set it up, uh Councilman Thomas. Uh Ms. Gantt, go ahead. You have something to say. [4:28:13, 4:28:15]: I did. Um [4:28:15, 4:28:16]: Yeah. [4:28:16, 4:28:36]: I'm gonna be real short. I don't recall. I remember us having a discussion about the HR physician, and then 10 years' experience came, but I don't remember voting for that. I remember us discussing that. And then Ms. Wheeler made some statements about her concerns on that, based off the years of experience. And I don't [4:28:36, 4:28:45]: recall and I know that the position was already there listed. So I don't recall that. And I knew that was kind of slid in as an example, but for the record. [4:28:46, 4:28:54]: I don't recall us voting for a 10 years of experienced person based off of changing the job description to read as such. [4:28:55, 4:28:57]: Um and I'll go back and review the tape. [4:28:58, 4:29:18]: Um I I ask that other council members do the same. In regards to the budget and why the inflation, I do believe that we should look back at fair reasonable days pre-post, but not I mean post or pre-pandemic days. Right now, of course. [4:29:17, 4:29:21]: a lot of things the city hall wasn't open we just opened last week [4:29:22, 4:29:26]: for the public. So a lot of spending, a lot of things stopped. [4:29:26, 4:29:46]: um activities, you name it, for quite some time frame. So I think we need to really honestly take that into consideration. We also um lost our city manager. Uh you know, uh our city manager resigned during this time frame of the budget discussion. [4:29:46, 4:30:06]: And yes, we usually go line by line, but we also had a retreat and were able to do so. Um, so I think and Councilman Thomas, I I would love to sit in the meetings with you when you ask those questions because those are some very good questions. You make some very good points on some things. But I totally would like. [4:30:06, 4:30:26]: For us to consider some of the things that even Mayor Pro Tem Um Alexander made some great points in regards to a pay scale, which I hope that we were already there anyway. But I think that we really have to sit down. And again, all our suggestions should be through email. [4:30:26, 4:30:42]: email or however we're gonna do it and then iron out what should be the right way to go. When I speak, I don't speak saying that this is it. I speak saying, hey, we I know I need three votes to get something across. [4:30:42, 4:30:46]: sometimes it comes across as this is the way it's going to be done and that's that. [4:30:46, 4:31:06]: And I hope that we all make wise educated decisions and research and show, you know, we're not reinventing the wheel, but we also want to be considerate of what used to be, because hopefully the COVID numbers are going down and we can get back to normal and we're [4:31:06, 4:31:15]: Going to need to have things already in place and not be behind the curve ball, but be in front of it. [4:31:16, 4:31:25]: So that's my two cents. I just hope that we can move on from here. We've heard the budget hearing for tonight and it is 1134 and we got other items. [4:31:26, 4:31:28]: Thank you. It's eleven thirty. [4:31:28, 4:31:29]: Okay. [4:31:29, 4:31:34]: All right. Eleven thirty four PM. Okay. No problem. Mr. Thomas, you got something else, sir. [4:31:35, 4:31:47]: Finally, I I I just want to just say this and I'm gonna ask the city clerk if she would just um read that back into I'm not sure if everyone was present uh at that point in time. [4:31:47, 4:31:51]: Uh it did come forward. It was read, it was stated. [4:31:52, 4:31:56]: Um there were some conversation, but let me just say this though. [4:31:57, 4:31:57]: We had a vote. [4:31:58, 4:32:03]: We did. Let me just say this man. I'm gonna be real short with this. I know I spoke quite a while. [4:32:04, 4:32:05]: Um [4:32:06, 4:32:10]: When I was out and about doing this last campaign. [4:32:10, 4:32:16]: I heard a lot from citizens. And and I'll say this, and this has always been my position. [4:32:16, 4:32:17]: Um [4:32:19, 4:32:21]: Citizens demand [4:32:22, 4:32:24]: quite a bit from the elected body. [4:32:26, 4:32:29]: We cannot live on our past Laura, what we did and [4:32:30, 4:32:33]: Twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, and twenty seventeen. [4:32:33, 4:32:36]: The bar always goes up. [4:32:37, 4:32:43]: And it has to trickle down. The accountability has to trickle down from the setting. It comes to us. [4:32:43, 4:32:45]: We had to pass it down to staff. [4:32:46, 4:32:49]: And that's just the nature of this kind of business that we're in. [4:32:49, 4:32:50]: For me [4:32:51, 4:32:51]: Um [4:32:52, 4:32:54]: We as an elected body. [4:32:54, 4:32:57]: Um, we high staff. [4:32:57, 4:33:07]: to come in and to move our goals and objectives forward. That is their role. We are the legislators, we are the policymakers. [4:33:08, 4:33:09]: That's what we do. [4:33:09, 4:33:15]: We have folks to come in to move those things forward. It's not the other way around. [4:33:16, 4:33:26]: You know, we we put the policies out there, we put the goals and objectives out there, and we have staff that can come and move those goals forward. [4:33:26, 4:33:37]: That's the nature of this municipality. This is the nature of that business. But Mrs. Um uh sit Madam Kirk, would you read, if you will, that legislation that was passed at the last budget hearing? [4:33:40, 4:33:43]: Okay, I was just pulling up the action. [4:33:43, 4:33:44]: Minutes. [4:33:45, 4:33:51]: If you don't have it available, we won't we won't I won't hold the meeting up because we just we still have quite a bit, but I'm just saying. [4:33:52, 4:33:53]: Um [4:33:54, 4:34:07]: And council, council know me. I I've been on the council almost 10 years. I've been the same way every year. This is what I do every year. I go through this budget and I come forward with the same thing every year. [4:34:08, 4:34:17]: All right. I'll tell you what, let me let me open it. Mayor, if you will allow her Okay, go ahead. Go ahead, please. Go ahead and read it. [4:34:18, 4:34:36]: So um Councilman Thomas amend he amended there was an original uh motion, but the one that passed was when he amended his motion and made a motion to amend the HR coordinator position with a minimum of 10 years of [4:34:37, 4:34:39]: Ten years of public safety. [4:34:39, 4:34:40]: Experience. [4:34:41, 4:34:43]: And all associated funding. [4:34:44, 4:34:49]: Noted, noting as Miss Wheeler and Chief Tramer spoke. [4:34:49, 4:34:52]: to the public safety acknowledged that they would [4:34:53, 4:34:54]: That would be needed. [4:34:55, 4:34:58]: And it was seconded by Councilwoman Barber. [4:34:58, 4:35:00]: The motion passed three one one. [4:35:01, 4:35:02]: Thank you. [4:35:02, 4:35:03]: Okay. [4:35:03, 4:35:23]: Right at this moment I'd like to just uh stop this discussion with the council and just open us up for the a public hearing because this is actually supposed to be a public hearing, right? So I'm gonna open up a public hearing for any uh anybody that is uh in favor uh of uh the current discussion or favor of the budget as as we have discussed and they as they know it is this point. [4:35:23, 4:35:43]: And so I would let last the Ms. Holiday if she knows of any anybody out there said that's indicating that they want to be in favor of this or is online and my public relations uh uh officer is online if these if there's anything good evening, Mayor. Yep. As as of now, Mayor Ford, there is no comment or feedback. [4:35:43, 4:35:46]: regarding this discussion on social media. [4:35:46, 4:35:56]: So let me okay, so let me just ask this other half of you. No, you told me let me anybody against the public hearing uh or any comments uh uh against this budget, I mean this public hearing aspect. [4:35:57, 4:36:03]: I said for now against. Uh so I've say that there's no one against you see no one out there for any comments of against. Is that correct? [4:36:07, 4:36:23]: Ms. Ford, yes. Um the comments we do have um some feedback, um, but the stance doesn't seem to be definitively for or against it's referencing stations that are needed, funding um, and things needed for the future. [4:36:23, 4:36:24]: Um [4:36:24, 4:36:26]: Elements of the amphitheater. [4:36:27, 4:36:28]: Okay. [4:36:28, 4:36:32]: That's on social media. So that may just be taken as some feedback as well. [4:36:32, 4:36:33]: Okay. All right. [4:36:34, 4:36:54]: All right. On that note, uh, I will close this public hearing at this time. All right, now it's closed. Uh before we move on, council, any other questions or concerns or thoughts before we move on to the next subject on this uh in reference to uh the budget. Now we will set up we'll set up some time frames uh uh and here shortly uh to have [4:36:54, 4:37:03]: this discussion with the directors, my involvement and some council involvement as well to have to go through this more thoroughly so we can be proper properly ready to go on the 13th of December. [4:37:04, 4:37:11]: All right. No other comments will be but May Mayor. I'm sorry. Sorry if I if if uh if if I could I spoke to um [4:37:12, 4:37:13]: Um [4:37:13, 4:37:15]: I've sent some information to council um [4:37:16, 4:37:22]: yesterday or day before yesterday regarding the uh police budget. And I know that we had um changed that amount from [4:37:22, 4:37:32]: believe it was originally set at two point six million dollars. Uh we moved it up to three point three million dollars and that was to cover um essentially seven months worth of salaries. [4:37:33, 4:37:39]: be able to onboard new folks from June until the end of the year. Uh one of the things that was not factored in. [4:37:39, 4:37:46]: was police services or continuation of police services rather from Henry County from January until July. [4:37:46, 4:37:58]: So we would need to add two hundred and eighty eight thousand dollars to police services budget to continue with the same level of service that we're receiving from Henry County between now and July one. And I've got [4:37:58, 4:38:08]: Uh the data on that, if you would like to see that, I can pull up on my screen a breakdown of uh what those funds are exactly, but we would need to amend the budget. [4:38:08, 4:38:15]: To add two hundred and eighty eight thousand dollars to the police services budget for Henry County Police Services from January until July. [4:38:15, 4:38:18]: You said you already sent that to us though? Is that right? [4:38:18, 4:38:23]: I I sent out a presentation uh yesterday, uh summary presentation. [4:38:24, 4:38:29]: Okay. But that's the same presentation you just opted to show us right now. Is that correct? [4:38:30, 4:38:31]: Yeah, would you like me to pull that up? [4:38:32, 4:38:35]: Mm sure, why not? Why not? I mean. [4:38:35, 4:38:36]: Oh yeah. [4:38:36, 4:38:38]: Let me pull this up here for you. [4:38:38, 4:38:44]: Um just so you can see everybody hopefully can see my screen here and I'll pull that this up. [4:38:44, 4:38:48]: So basically seven months of uh police salaries is [4:38:49, 4:38:50]: Um [4:38:51, 4:38:58]: You can see here at the bottom three point three seven two. We've uh earmarked three point three million dollars. This is just for [4:38:58, 4:39:11]: Stockbridge police departments for seven months worth of operating expenses. This is just for Stockbridge PD. This does not include Henry County. Uh if we continue with Henry County Police Services, this is what that's gonna look like. So from January to July. [4:39:12, 4:39:21]: These are the things that we've been paying for. So we pay uh two to three officers seven days a week for a park and business patrol detail. It'd be a hundred and thirteen thousand. [4:39:21, 4:39:26]: Our city hall detail, an officer Monday through Friday from eight to five is fifty four thousand. The amphitheater. [4:39:27, 4:39:33]: Uh estimating between now and start date, six events of fifteen officers is thirty-two thousand. The court detail. [4:39:33, 4:39:38]: Three officers record two to three days per month, ten thousand dollars. Special events. [4:39:38, 4:39:43]: Is there anything that comes up um uh through the events department? [4:39:43, 4:39:49]: Uh twelve thousand dollars and then the council detail, one officer two days per month for council is about three. [4:39:50, 4:39:53]: thousand dollars puts us at two hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars. [4:39:54, 4:40:02]: Uh if you look at the PD budget, 3.3 plus the 227 puts us a total budget need of 3.6. [4:40:02, 4:40:09]: We've earmarked three point three one one two nine six according to the most recent, which would put us at a deficit. [4:40:09, 4:40:15]: of two hundred eighty eight thousand nine hundred and eighty eight dollars to continue to provide that same level of service. [4:40:17, 4:40:18]: All right, thank you, sir, for that. [4:40:19, 4:40:29]: Okay, so obviously w the bottom line is we're gonna have to make an adjustment uh to your budget uh for twenty twenty two to make this thing work properly. Is what I gather. Is that correct? [4:40:31, 4:40:33]: Yes, sir, that's correct. Assuming that's uh wishes of the council. [4:40:34, 4:40:38]: So that was from January to June or January to July. [4:40:38, 4:40:49]: January to July. From June to July we'll be training our officers on our policies and procedures and operating protocols. So we won't be in a position to be able to assume those services from June to July. [4:40:51, 4:40:51]: All right. [4:40:52, 4:41:00]: All right, we're gonna move on to new business. Council consideration approved downtown Stockbridge 2021 strategic work plan. [4:41:00, 4:41:01]: Mr. Peterson, please. [4:41:05, 4:41:08]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. In um [4:41:08, 4:41:11]: June of this year, June of twenty twenty one. [4:41:12, 4:41:17]: The downtown development authority and Main Street had a droid strategic planning session. [4:41:17, 4:41:19]: And from that session. [4:41:19, 4:41:24]: Came a joint strategic plan that Main Street needed for. [4:41:25, 4:41:28]: their uh certification uh that they need every year. [4:41:28, 4:41:30]: And uh also um [4:41:31, 4:41:36]: It provided an opportunity for the D DA and Main Street to collaborate from my understanding. [4:41:36, 4:41:38]: That was the first time that this happened. [4:41:38, 4:41:43]: In the city of Stockbridge. Um a lot of transformation strategies came from that. [4:41:43, 4:41:45]: uh vision and a lot of [4:41:45, 4:41:51]: Important and uh tangible goals came from that. Uh additionally, four committees were formed. [4:41:52, 4:41:57]: We have the Downtown Connectivity and Design Committee that's head by Kira and Lisa. [4:41:57, 4:42:00]: We have the downtown beautification and activation committee. [4:42:01, 4:42:04]: Also head by Kieran Lisa, our main street staff. [4:42:04, 4:42:09]: Our tourism product development committee headed by Roger Custon, who's our [4:42:09, 4:42:11]: Downtown Development Authority Director. [4:42:11, 4:42:23]: and the downtown business recruitment and retention committee, uh head by me, the economic development department. Um, we would like for the city council to um [4:42:23, 4:42:37]: formally uh approve this plan just so we'll have you all's backing uh moving forward. And I know that we had a lot of council members uh come to that session this summer and we really, really appreciated that. [4:42:37, 4:42:39]: And we just would like you all's backing. [4:42:41, 4:42:46]: All right. So you want a mo motion to accept this uh this particular strategic plan. Is that correct, sir? [4:42:46, 4:42:47]: Yes, sir, Mayor. [4:42:48, 4:42:51]: Okay, council. Any questions and or motion? [4:42:58, 4:43:01]: Is there a motion or any concerns or questions? [4:43:04, 4:43:07]: Okay. Looks like no one's willing to make a motion at this time. [4:43:09, 4:43:11]: Mayor, if I may. Yes, sir. [4:43:12, 4:43:12]: Um [4:43:13, 4:43:18]: Doctor Peterson, I I think what you're saying, I don't think this is a [4:43:18, 4:43:21]: A denial of this, I think. [4:43:21, 4:43:25]: I think the lateness of the night, I'm not sure if everybody have [4:43:26, 4:43:29]: actually read this document and was familiar with it. [4:43:30, 4:43:31]: Um [4:43:31, 4:43:34]: I I would suggest rather than [4:43:34, 4:43:35]: Um [4:43:36, 4:43:38]: uh a a novel [4:43:38, 4:43:41]: Um I I want to sort of suggest [4:43:42, 4:43:46]: uh tabling it. I I would hate for it to have a a record of a no vote. [4:43:47, 4:43:49]: I just think that if you give counsel [4:43:50, 4:43:54]: a little bit more time and I don't know if council wanna admit that they have not [4:43:54, 4:43:58]: fully uh read the document or [4:43:59, 4:44:01]: Uh, had the opportunity to give you a call. [4:44:02, 4:44:04]: Uh to ask some questions. [4:44:05, 4:44:08]: Um and I I sort of think that's that's sort of [4:44:08, 4:44:09]: Where we are. [4:44:09, 4:44:12]: Um I did participate in the section. [4:44:13, 4:44:14]: Session. [4:44:14, 4:44:18]: And I'm a little familiar with the document, but I'm sort of thinking this is um [4:44:19, 4:44:23]: without anyone saying it, but I think this is what's what's started happening. [4:44:23, 4:44:24]: Um [4:44:25, 4:44:26]: Would you consider [4:44:27, 4:44:46]: uh bringing this back again uh is it is is it not pressing for to for you to approval tonight i i'd i definitely would like to bring it back again and have roger custom the dda director and kira and lisa on uh it's um almost 1145 [4:44:46, 4:44:50]: Uh so I I think they've they've got an on got an off. [4:44:50, 4:44:58]: But um, you know, it it was it was a a joint, it's the it is a joint effort. Uh the plan is ongoing, it's a joint effort between Main Street. [4:44:59, 4:45:13]: and DDA and and economic developments it would be good if if they would would be on as well. Because this it is an important document. I would have no problem in making the motion. I'm not sure if I get a second, but but rather than a second. [4:45:14, 4:45:15]: Sorry. [4:45:16, 4:45:20]: Okay, well um well if if that is the case then uh mayor [4:45:21, 4:45:26]: I I I move that we move forward and uh to accept this. [4:45:26, 4:45:29]: Uh strategic work plan presented by um [4:45:29, 4:45:31]: Uh, Doctor Peterson. [4:45:31, 4:45:32]: Sir a second. [4:45:33, 4:45:33]: Yeah, yeah. [4:45:34, 4:45:38]: Okay I'm Ms. Mayor I'll give Mayor Pro Tam here. Okay. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:45:39, 4:45:39]: Uh. [4:45:40, 4:45:43]: Okay, it passes unanimously. Great stuff. You got it. [4:45:44, 4:45:45]: Thank you, Council. [4:45:46, 4:45:52]: Council consideration approved fleet and equipment replacement policy. Mr. Aaron, please. [4:45:53, 4:45:59]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. During the last budget reading, uh Councilman Thomas requested that we [4:46:00, 4:46:08]: Uh submit a vehicle and equipment replacement policy. We have done that and submitted the mayor and council for review. [4:46:08, 4:46:13]: It addresses how the city would go about replacing vehicles and equipment. [4:46:14, 4:46:27]: We all know that one size does not fit all. Certain vehicles will go beyond this life expectancy or rating system, such as like the vehicle I have is eight years old, it has 44,000 miles on it. [4:46:28, 4:46:30]: So it'll probably go ten to fifteen years. [4:46:31, 4:46:35]: before it's being replaced, but this addresses how vehicles will be replaced. [4:46:36, 4:46:38]: But it does not include the police department. [4:46:39, 4:46:51]: Because I'm sure Chief has um mechanisms in place for how he will replace his vehicles, but this is for all of the city's vehicles and equipment outside of the police department. [4:46:52, 4:46:54]: I'll take it. Yes. [4:46:54, 4:46:55]: No. [4:46:55, 4:46:57]: Councillor, any question for Mr. Aaron at all? [4:46:58, 4:47:09]: So how would we um approach the police vehicles? Uh Chief Tramer, will you be putting together a separate policy for police vehicles? [4:47:15, 4:47:15]: Yeah, so ours. [4:47:16, 4:47:21]: just because of the nature of the uh the usage of the vehicle is probably gonna be a little bit different. I had the opportunity to look at [4:47:22, 4:47:25]: Mr. Aaron put together and I think it's certainly suitable for standard [4:47:26, 4:47:34]: uh city vehicles that are used regularly just in the course of business. However, police vehicles obviously, with those being emergency vehicles, at least emergency vehicles, [4:47:34, 4:47:37]: Uh, the life cycle's probably gonna be um [4:47:37, 4:47:38]: Uh a little shorter. [4:47:39, 4:47:47]: We would have somebody when we when within the organizational proposed organizational chart, we have we have a position to actually be managing our fleet. [4:47:47, 4:47:51]: So that individual be responsible for uh keeping up with that data. [4:47:51, 4:47:59]: in providing us with the uh requisite information we would need to make the informed decision and project future replacements for vehicles. [4:48:02, 4:48:02]: All right. [4:48:03, 4:48:06]: Uh on that note, uh any further questions for Mr. Aaron? [4:48:06, 4:48:09]: And if not any motion for accept the policy. [4:48:11, 4:48:13]: Is there a motion to accept a policy? [4:48:14, 4:48:18]: Mayor Ford, I make a motion to approve the fleet and equipment replacement policy. [4:48:19, 4:48:22]: Okay, thank you, Ms. Barber. Mr. Thomas seconds that motion. [4:48:22, 4:48:24]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [4:48:24, 4:48:25]: I [4:48:25, 4:48:28]: Okay, fantastic passes. Good stuff. [4:48:29, 4:48:46]: Thank you, Mr. Aaron. And uh Council consideration approved purchase of police vehicle emergency equipment, graphics, and associated upfitting costs for 60 police vehicles, an amount of$754,615.40. Funding source, ARPA. [4:48:47, 4:48:50]: Mr. Well excuse me, Chief Trammer, please. [4:49:10, 4:49:10]: See? [4:49:13, 4:49:14]: I guess I was on mute. [4:49:14, 4:49:16]: You're right. Okay. [4:49:16, 4:49:30]: So um I sent to everybody you should have received a copy of the quotes. This is just a summary of those quotes, but the quotes specifically outline uh all the equipment associated costs affiliated with the different vehicles that we've ordered. [4:49:30, 4:49:48]: Uh the 39 patrol vehicles that we have, the costs on those are gonna be more expensive because you have um obviously uh prisoner transport area, cage, um uh vehicle graphics, um, light bars, whereas the administrative vehicles don't have as much emergency uh equipment on those. So [4:49:48, 4:49:55]: Um for those 39 vehicles, we're looking at about sixteen thousand dollars per vehicle, uh total cost of six hundred thirty-three thousand. [4:49:55, 4:50:05]: $254 for the uh interceptor and the rest of these are essentially administrative vehicles. You can see the associated cost price per vehicle and the total cost. [4:50:05, 4:50:12]: And for those 60 vehicles, um puts us at 754,615.39. [4:50:13, 4:50:16]: Um we're seeking to um [4:50:16, 4:50:35]: Fund this through ARPA. It would be associated emergency equipment. We did have this vetted through our city attorneys and procurement. This is a piggyback off of the state contract through the Georgia Department of Public Safety. This was competitively bid recently. [4:50:36, 4:50:52]: and uh pro logistics uh who is the vendor that we're seeking to acquire this equipment from was awarded the uh state contract the Georgia Department of Public Safety contract for federal signal products which you uh can see here at the bottom of uh this highlighted section here [4:50:53, 4:50:58]: And Dana Safety Supply was for wheel in products, but we are gonna be uh putting federal signal. [4:50:58, 4:51:04]: um emergency lights and the sirens on our vehicle. So we're seeking to piggyback again off that contract. [4:51:04, 4:51:12]: Uh with the state. As I said, this is embedded already through procurement and our attorneys. So I'm seeking uh council's approval. [4:51:12, 4:51:16]: For the funding of this so that we can equip our uh police fleet fleet. [4:51:17, 4:51:18]: with the necessary emergency equipment. [4:51:20, 4:51:21]: Any questions? [4:51:24, 4:51:26]: If no questions and need a motion to accept this proposal. [4:51:27, 4:51:30]: No move. Okay, Mr. Alexander, thank you. Is there a second? [4:51:32, 4:51:34]: Ms. Barber seconds that. Uh any further discussion? [4:51:36, 4:51:37]: And if not, all in favor, please indicate. [4:51:40, 4:51:40]: Yeah. [4:51:41, 4:51:45]: Okay, Miss Kent. Okay, you you abstain? [4:51:45, 4:51:52]: Okay. I do. Okay. So um and uh Mr. Thomas, I didn't see see. Did you vote? I'm okay. I'm in favor. [4:51:52, 4:51:57]: Okay, thank you. So that's three zero one. Okay, it passes. All right. Um [4:51:59, 4:51:59]: Excuse me. [4:52:00, 4:52:04]: All right, uh council consideration uh to approve uh [4:52:05, 4:52:19]: TSW task order for construction design of North Precinct Police Building, 4545 North Henry Boulevard, amount of 165,000,$165,175 funding sources through the bonding process. [4:52:19, 4:52:20]: Chief Trammer, please. [4:52:22, 4:52:29]: Yes, uh I'm not sure if everyone is familiar with or has seen the facility over there. It's uh quite dated and it is in need of upfitting. [4:52:30, 4:52:34]: Uh currently Henry County is operating a [4:52:34, 4:52:39]: Essentially a precinct out there. This is not a police headquarters. [4:52:39, 4:52:50]: Uh therefore there are uh necessary additions that will be required. Uh in addition to that, as I said before, the building is in need of some uh some cosmetic uh uh [4:52:51, 4:52:52]: repairs, renovations. [4:52:52, 4:52:57]: There's a complete second level of the building that's unfinished that we'd be seeking to finish out. [4:52:57, 4:53:01]: uh to allow us for uh future growth for the department. [4:53:01, 4:53:10]: Um, this is just a rendering. It's a very uh rudimentary, it's not anything uh that I'm sure Miss Hubble and her team will assemble, but I just wanted to provide. [4:53:10, 4:53:29]: uh council and uh uh you may are also with just a rendering so you have an idea of what we're looking to accomplish. This is the first level of the facility. In the upper right hand corner you can see there's a roll call room and what that room is, it's it's basically uh uh where the police officers meet prior to their shift and they receive their briefing orders. [4:53:30, 4:53:46]: We would like to expand that room, turn it into a community room slash multi-purpose room that we could use for various different community functions, public safety related functions. This would also be a training room where we could host outside training, invite other agencies in to be a part of training that we host. [4:53:46, 4:54:03]: And it would also serve as uh an emergency operations center in the event that uh we were required to set something up uh along those lines for the city. So we would want to move this space out, which would require us um moving uh this this uh this wall here, and I don't know if you all can see. [4:54:03, 4:54:12]: um my cursor, but we would have to extend this space back here, uh reconfigure a couple of offices. We would have to reconfigure this uh this center space here. [4:54:13, 4:54:32]: And um uh just add a few offices here. One of the big structural things we'd need to do is add a door to the back of the facility. This is all gated parking back here in the back. Um, and we would like the officers to be able to access the facility from the officer gated parking lot instead of uh having to [4:54:32, 4:54:33]: Um [4:54:34, 4:54:38]: walk around non-access controlled areas to gain access into the facility. [4:54:39, 4:54:49]: Uh the second level is completely uh open. We'd be looking to convert that into office space and we have consulted with TSW on this project. [4:54:49, 4:55:09]: And just wanted to give you a little bit of an overview. And Heather and Carl with Kekkenwood is also on the call with us. I believe I saw them here. And so they would be able to answer any specific questions that you might have. But the project overview basically updating the aesthetics of the building. [4:55:09, 4:55:18]: Um uh adding new doors as you can see here. The front doors are all wood. We would like to open this up, turn these into glass doors and add a door to the back of it. [4:55:18, 4:55:25]: Um the interior renovations is basically updating the floors, walls, doors, ceilings, lighting, furnishing, so on and so forth. [4:55:25, 4:55:30]: It would be reconfiguring that multi-purpose room that I spoke of. [4:55:30, 4:55:34]: We would have to incorporate a property and evidence uh slash crime lab. [4:55:34, 4:55:42]: into the building which currently does not exist. We would need to reconfigure the roll call room or patrol suite. We'd be looking to add a fitness center. [4:55:42, 4:55:46]: and then um do some office reconfiguration. [4:55:46, 4:55:58]: The unfinished space we would be converting into executive, administrative offices, conference room, kitchenette, and restrooms in that second level that I've mentioned here. So that's what we're looking to accomplish. [4:55:58, 4:56:15]: Um in going over the proposal that I sent to you all yesterday, it's broken down into several different phases. Uh the first phase obviously is the rough draft of schematic design where we sat down with our project manager, sat down with TSW and their architects. [4:56:15, 4:56:18]: And come up with uh the conceptual design. [4:56:18, 4:56:26]: Phase B would be design development where they would provide us with a rendering of that. We'd be able to make modifications if needed to if those need to be made at that time. [4:56:26, 4:56:37]: Phase C would be preparation to construction documents, and then phase D would be bidding and approval, getting all the permitting, bid preparation, evaluation, and the last part is construction administration. [4:56:37, 4:56:39]: Uh there are two [4:56:39, 4:56:41]: uh options that we are considering. [4:56:42, 4:57:00]: And in terms of uh renovation, this is just a uh timeline. So you can see if we go the traditional route in terms of following these different phases that was just uh mentioned, uh we would we would be looking um and there is some variance um [4:57:01, 4:57:21]: one way or the other on this, um, but conservatively, as I understand that Heather was estimating uh the end of August uh would be a realistic time frame if we went with the traditional uh bidding process. The other option that was proposed to us was the construction manager at risk option. And I will let Heather speak to that specifically for any questions. [4:57:21, 4:57:22]: Yeah. [4:57:22, 4:57:28]: But essentially with that we could cut down the uh construction time on the project. Um [4:57:29, 4:57:37]: by nearly a month, if we were to go this route. And there are pros and cons, uh, which again I will allow Heather to uh share with you. [4:57:37, 4:57:43]: Uh from a cost standpoint, uh we're seeking$165,175. [4:57:43, 4:57:46]: uh funding source would be at the police be out of the police bond. [4:57:46, 4:57:48]: uh to uh [4:57:48, 4:57:59]: consult with or or work with TSW to prepare the uh renderings, the design development, construction documents, and assist us with that process. [4:58:01, 4:58:02]: Any questions? [4:58:03, 4:58:04]: Yeah. [4:58:05, 4:58:14]: It let me ask you, is there a difference in the cost factor, whatever fate what if whiche the way we go with the the the timeline? Is there a difference in the cost at all? [4:58:15, 4:58:23]: No, I don't believe there is, Heather, and and I don't want to misspeak, but based on our conversations, I believe that those are essentially going to be the same. We may [4:58:23, 4:58:33]: um um be able to get some of that funding back if we go to construction manager at risk, but as it stands right now, uh it would be this price either way. [4:58:34, 4:58:35]: You want to speak to that, Helen? [4:58:36, 4:58:56]: That is that is correct. Um, so the if CM at risk was taken on, um the consultant that would be affected would be our cost consultant, ADE. Um, you should be familiar with them. They're doing the um art center, they're gonna be doing the park system plan. [4:58:56, 4:59:00]: Um but pending how [4:59:00, 4:59:02]: And if CM at risk comes on board. [4:59:03, 4:59:04]: Their [4:59:05, 4:59:08]: Work scope would change from creating [4:59:08, 4:59:09]: Um [4:59:10, 4:59:13]: cost estimates to just reviewing. [4:59:14, 4:59:25]: Um and if that's the route that is taken, um I have I have made Chief a promise that at that time we'll provide uh a deduct. [4:59:26, 4:59:32]: professional feedback for that to the city. Um and not knowing if that's the way the city's gonna take and when that [4:59:33, 4:59:34]: Uh, see him at risk. [4:59:34, 4:59:36]: Would become a board. I can't [4:59:37, 4:59:42]: give you a specific amount of money. Uh, but I am promising you all that um [4:59:43, 4:59:43]: Uh huh. [4:59:43, 4:59:45]: If at all possible [4:59:45, 4:59:49]: The sooner seam at risk gets on board will provide a deduct. [4:59:50, 4:59:51]: professional feedback to see. [4:59:52, 4:59:57]: Sounds good to me personally, but we'll see what everybody else is thinking. Uh was it that two men for ten you want to [4:59:58, 5:00:01]: Mayer, if you don't mind, I'd like to add on to the discussion. [5:00:02, 5:00:03]: Um [5:00:04, 5:00:05]: The only concern I have [5:00:05, 5:00:11]: And I think construction manager at risk would help us on the on the back end as far as uh [5:00:11, 5:00:13]: shortening up the time to [5:00:14, 5:00:14]: Um [5:00:15, 5:00:21]: Get them under contract to to do the project. I do I do have a concern that [5:00:22, 5:00:29]: uh on the front end, how long it would take us to go through a procurement step, the procurement process to bring a construction manager. [5:00:29, 5:00:35]: on board. I'm not saying I have a solution for that tonight. Uh I've just started the discussions with [5:00:36, 5:00:40]: А вот Чиф Траймер тоді. [5:00:40, 5:00:45]: And I wanna look at some maybe some other procurement options with the procurement department regarding [5:00:46, 5:00:52]: uh parts of this project. So before we land on how we're gonna deliver the construction, I I wouldn't [5:00:52, 5:00:54]: Рекоменда um [5:00:55, 5:00:58]: The Heather and Chief and I talk a little bit more about that. [5:00:58, 5:01:04]: And get with the the with the uh procurement department to come up with a a plan to actually deliver the construction. [5:01:05, 5:01:11]: Uh the the biggest problem is is this is a very short timeline to get a construction project designed. [5:01:11, 5:01:20]: and bid and then constructed. Um it's it feels very, very tight to me. And you can see that Heather's uh they're [5:01:20, 5:01:22]: schedule was was quite long. [5:01:23, 5:01:32]: I just wanna get sold on whether or not the construction manager at risk is gonna buy us the time we need or maybe there's some other procurement processes that we can explore. [5:01:33, 5:01:37]: uh to do that to get this project done as quickly as the chief needs it done. [5:01:38, 5:01:48]: Okay, thank you. Uh was that Mayor Pro Tem were you next, sir? You speaking? Yeah. Yes. The follow up question that I would have is Chief, is it absolutely necessary for [5:01:49, 5:01:52]: The building to be one hundred percent complete on July first. [5:01:52, 5:01:55]: Uh would that additional time be beneficial? [5:01:56, 5:01:58]: To making sure that the project was done. [5:01:58, 5:02:00]: A hundred percent correct. [5:02:02, 5:02:08]: Yeah, it it doesn't have to be completely finished. And that's what Carl and I were speaking of earlier today. Uh the city has [5:02:08, 5:02:12]: As I understand and Mr. Wiggins, you can probably speak to this the [5:02:12, 5:02:18]: Um a construction company that they were uh contracting with previously that was going to do the [5:02:18, 5:02:30]: um addition in the lower level of City Hall that you all were talking of earlier, uh, there may be a way that that we could potentially utilize them for the renovation portion of the first level. [5:02:30, 5:02:35]: And then we could uh work on building out that second level, that unfinished space. [5:02:36, 5:02:41]: Um as we're occupying the facility. So we could approach this as a phase route. It's our hope that [5:02:41, 5:03:00]: we can, you know, get most of it done, if not all of it, before we move in. But uh we were discussing that in in, you know, either way, uh we're gonna we're gonna make do and we're gonna get into that building one way or the other. But uh that there is the possibility that we can break this up into two separate projects. [5:03:01, 5:03:08]: Right. My my point being is that it might be beneficial in order to do that because as Carl was stating. [5:03:08, 5:03:14]: Uh there might be s you know, you never know with these construction projects. There might be some additional time that's [5:03:14, 5:03:21]: that we've seen uh from these projects due to what what you know it's inside, but it might be weather, whatever the case might be. [5:03:22, 5:03:24]: But um I just want to make sure that [5:03:24, 5:03:28]: We're delivering to these officers what they deserve. [5:03:28, 5:03:32]: in the time frame, even if it takes a few extra days in order to do that. [5:03:34, 5:03:40]: Yeah, we certainly don't want to circumvent or or cut any corners and uh sacrifice. [5:03:40, 5:03:45]: Um, you know, the the quality that certainly will not happen, but um [5:03:45, 5:03:57]: I think that being the first level, we're just looking at, you know, renovations that perhaps maybe we could get to work on that um sooner than later. I did speak with uh Chief Amberman of Henry County. They're prepared to move out. [5:03:57, 5:04:03]: Um as soon as February first. So February first I believe they'll be out of the building so we'll have it available. [5:04:03, 5:04:08]: uh to begin doing whatever we need to do. But uh Carl and I will have some additional discussions. [5:04:08, 5:04:11]: And uh actually he and Heather and I are looking at [5:04:11, 5:04:18]: sinking up next week to go over and look at the space again and and to put our hands together and see what solutions we can come up with. [5:04:18, 5:04:23]: So you need from us the ability to just approve this and then you all can work out. [5:04:23, 5:04:26]: The rest of the details amongst yourselves. [5:04:26, 5:04:27]: That's correct. [5:04:28, 5:04:35]: Right. Okay. All right. Thank you. Stand by for a second. Mr. Thomas, you had you're unmuted. Do you have something to say, sir? [5:04:35, 5:04:38]: No, I'm good. anybody else? Any other comments? [5:04:39, 5:04:42]: All right, Mayor Proton, go ahead. You I think you want to do something here. [5:04:42, 5:04:55]: Yeah, I want to make a motion to uh what what we suggested, which was building in the extra time to it to do it in phases and do it 100% correct uh delivering uh on the best possible project. [5:04:56, 5:04:57]: So [5:04:58, 5:05:05]: Okay. Uh I've heard Mr. Thomas's voice there. I heard Mr. Thomas' voice. Any further discussion? If not, all in favor, please indicate. [5:05:06, 5:05:07]: Is it [5:05:07, 5:05:21]: Is it okay unanimous decision? Okay, fantastic. All right, for what we have next was a council consideration for the speed bunts for Winslow Eagles Landing at Eagles Landing. And I'm gonna start this off with Mr. Aaron, please. [5:05:22, 5:05:34]: Yes, Ms. Mayor. Um the City of Stockbridge currently has a speed hump policy that requires a simple majority to install speed humps. It's 51%. It's not a [5:05:34, 5:05:44]: supermajority like a lot of other places that requires two thirds of the residents. We received a petition from the residents in uh Winslow's Eagles Landing. [5:05:44, 5:05:47]: And sixteen percent of the residents responded to [5:05:48, 5:05:51]: The petition, but the petition requires fifty one percent. [5:05:51, 5:05:53]: For it to be approved. [5:05:53, 5:05:55]: according to the city's bead harm policy. [5:05:57, 5:06:00]: Okay. Yes, sir. [5:06:00, 5:06:04]: Okay, it's been a long day already. I live in the community. [5:06:04, 5:06:09]: I can't drive through the community and talk to anybody without dealing with this particular process. [5:06:09, 5:06:13]: Uh and I think uh the requirement is very cumbersome. [5:06:14, 5:06:15]: You know, it requires [5:06:15, 5:06:19]: Uh, fifty percent of a neighborhood with three hundred and nine homes and [5:06:19, 5:06:39]: You know, maybe 35 or 40 percent of rentals. So it's a monumental task. It's absolutely necessary. So I think the city should move forward uh with the uh speed bumps on the western side of Winbrook Drive to make sure that these residents stay safe. There's trucks cutting through there, the school bus. [5:06:39, 5:06:59]: is cutting through there because we understand the city had nothing to do with this project, but we have the utmost responsibility to make sure it's safe. So I would like to go ahead and make a motion that we move forward with the speed bumps as recommended that these residents have requested on Winbrook Drive West. [5:07:00, 5:07:15]: All right. Well you realize that we're going against our own policy though. You realize that. I I I certainly do. But in the end, it's it's a rec the policy is a recommendation. It's not a uh it is the council's the will to do that. And that this point we need to move forward with it. [5:07:16, 5:07:21]: We'll be setting a new precedent, by the way. I just wanted to make make that known. Is there a second to the motion? [5:07:21, 5:07:30]: Mayor Ford, I want to ask Mayor Pro Tin Alexander. I'm very much aware of the situation in this subdivision. [5:07:30, 5:07:32]: I wanted to ask him if he would include. [5:07:33, 5:07:33]: Well. [5:07:33, 5:07:36]: First, let me ask Mr. H Aaron. [5:07:36, 5:07:40]: Is it appropriate to also add no cut through signs? [5:07:42, 5:07:44]: Those yes, yes ma'am, we [5:07:45, 5:07:57]: We had put some out earlier, but just like a lot of other things, people look at signs, they don't really pay attention to certain signs, just like the no-cut through at City Hall, you still have people. So [5:07:58, 5:08:02]: is the ones that gonna obey the law, gonna obey the law, those are that are not or not. [5:08:03, 5:08:13]: And then on July 1st, we'll have the chief have set up the car in there. Then they got the sign and they see the sign. But again, I want to go ahead and make a motion to move forward with this. [5:08:13, 5:08:14]: Waving the city. [5:08:15, 5:08:18]: uh policy at this time to move forward with this. [5:08:18, 5:08:22]: to do what's appropriate in this unique urgent circumstance. [5:08:22, 5:08:24]: Maybe ma'am. [5:08:25, 5:08:30]: Oh I'm sorry. I'll wait for the second first before I okay. Is there a second to your motion? [5:08:33, 5:08:51]: I was asking if you can amend your motion to include the no cut-through sign. Oh, certainly. Yes. Let's add that to the motion. Amend the motion based on what I just said and add the cut through signs. And then again, the chief, we need somebody in there to enforce this once we get it get up get it up under us. [5:08:53, 5:08:55]: Okay. Is there a second to the motion? [5:08:56, 5:09:00]: I second. Okay, Ms. Barber seconds that. Okay, Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [5:09:00, 5:09:05]: Okay, I have a question. So we don't have 51%. [5:09:05, 5:09:09]: Yeah. Is that what we is that what we're saying? Yes, right. We don't [5:09:10, 5:09:25]: And is there a reason that they attempt to get everyone in the neighborhood? Because I I totally understand that that campground road and the busyness of that, but I have a concern. I mean, I would think that everybody in that subdivision will want to sign this. [5:09:26, 5:09:27]: And if not [5:09:27, 5:09:30]: I don't believe in going against the policy. [5:09:31, 5:09:32]: That we presented. [5:09:33, 5:09:37]: Well we're getting ready. Have we heard some people that are against it? [5:09:37, 5:09:46]: I mean, I I just need to know, I think we need to abide by our our policies. I'm not against this at all. I agree. [5:09:46, 5:09:58]: But I can't I did what I didn't know is, and I actually put it in the email, let's just call for the vote. Everybody knows that this I thought the petition had over 51, I mean had 51%. [5:09:58, 5:10:02]: No, it doesn't. But if it doesn't, I don't want to go against our policy. [5:10:02, 5:10:16]: So is there a re did we cut it short? Is there someone here who can tell me who won who was the person that went out to get the position petitions and why isn't it more than 51%? What what's the problem? [5:10:16, 5:10:29]: The issue is it requires 50% of the entire subdivision, and the subdivision now has been cut in half. On my side of the subdivision, it doesn't affect us at all. [5:10:29, 5:10:49]: Because there's no traffic coming through my side of the subdivision. The side of the subdivision that they're on has fewer homes, but all the cars are coming through their side of the subdivision. What they did was they got the signatures on their side of the subdivision because it affected them, because Wembrook Drive is now cutting. [5:10:49, 5:10:53]: in half campground comes across comes through the subdivision. [5:10:53, 5:10:57]: uh on our side, but the majority of the homes that live on my side. [5:10:57, 5:11:17]: No, I don't even have to go out that way ever because I can take campgrounds and leave my side of the subdivision. So they were hamstrucked by the re other side of the residents, really didn't care because they don't have to deal with that because they don't have to have to go out that side. So those those people they tried to get signatures on the other side and they wouldn't. [5:11:17, 5:11:20]: wouldn't sign it? Is that what's going on? [5:11:20, 5:11:27]: They they attempted to go out to the rest of the subdivision to do what they do, but understanding what we're dealing with. [5:11:27, 5:11:47]: Most half of the 40% of the residents are renters. They don't care whether you do it or not. They don't own the property. They rent here as we're dealing with in the city. So they were facing that uphill challenge. But what I can say is that they got 50% of the residents on Winbrook Drive, the people that actually use it. [5:11:47, 5:11:57]: use the road and they use it every day on their side of the subdivision, they got over 50% of those residents who use the road who are in danger. [5:11:57, 5:12:06]: getting out into traffic on on a regular basis because trucks come whizzing through there, cars come whizzing through there on a regular basis. And those residents [5:12:07, 5:12:27]: Will tell you if we had to go until 1215 at night, a Benito Seabolt was going to be on here and Yvette Davis was going to be on here telling us about how the dangers that they face every day in the community. So here we are. So yes, I've asked for a waiver to waive the city policy in order to move this forward because of this extraneous. [5:12:27, 5:12:41]: Circumstances of again, more of the homes live on my side of the subdivision. They have very few homes, and they did garner the signature of most of the residents on the street itself. [5:12:42, 5:12:44]: Where is anybody? [5:12:44, 5:12:46]: Besides you, Councilman Alexander. [5:12:47, 5:13:04]: representing or speaking for this, I saw I I hear what you're saying. I don't want to go against the policy, but I agree with you. I think it's absolute I I don't go there often enough, but when I did go, I it was just unbelievable the split. [5:13:04, 5:13:06]: Uh of the subdivision. [5:13:07, 5:13:09]: Um I I don't like it. [5:13:10, 5:13:10]: Um [5:13:11, 5:13:15]: What I but my biggest concern is. [5:13:17, 5:13:18]: You know [5:13:19, 5:13:23]: When at what point and when do we make exceptions to the rules? [5:13:23, 5:13:30]: I'm asking for a waiver of the rules under an extra circumstance. I don't anticipate. [5:13:30, 5:13:36]: A road being cut through the middle of any other subdivision and stock bridge because we would have control over that. [5:13:36, 5:13:37]: And we would never do that. [5:13:38, 5:13:40]: These residents have suffered enough. [5:13:40, 5:13:44]: I know that because I live here and I see them every day. [5:13:44, 5:13:58]: And I understand when a child has to cross that road to get to the swimming pool, risking their safety, it matters. And then then cars zooming up and down this road. They were prepared to say exactly what I'm saying now. [5:13:58, 5:14:03]: If we hadn't went to twelve fifteen at night. So I'm calling for the vote. [5:14:05, 5:14:07]: Well they they're prepared. [5:14:08, 5:14:12]: They would have said it during public comments, right? At the beginning of the meeting. [5:14:12, 5:14:20]: Well, what I was prepared to do was not make the presentation, but to take my time and allow one of them to speak. And they had agreed to do that. [5:14:20, 5:14:22]: So I was gonna turn [5:14:22, 5:14:27]: Wait for say a few words and then I was gonna turn the complete thing over to them because like I said. [5:14:27, 5:14:31]: I don't live on that side of the neighborhood. It has zero effect on me. [5:14:32, 5:14:43]: Because I don't have to take that side. I can take campground and go anywhere I want to go. So I might see that once a month if I'm going to Eagles Landing Middle School or Flipping Middle School. My kids aren't in school now. [5:14:44, 5:14:47]: I think the uh a campground road. [5:14:47, 5:14:49]: The type of road it is. [5:14:49, 5:14:51]: going through a subdivision. [5:14:51, 5:14:58]: is absolutely hideous. And I do think this is an extrangit ex I think this is a special circumstance. [5:14:59, 5:14:59]: I do. [5:15:00, 5:15:02]: And it may be something new. [5:15:02, 5:15:04]: It may be a new policy set. [5:15:05, 5:15:13]: Um, you know, laws do change, policies could change, and this may be a very good example of it. [5:15:13, 5:15:23]: But I I you know, I wanna make sure that we abide by our policies and rules and regulations. However, I totally understand this situation. I really do. [5:15:23, 5:15:27]: Um, I wish I would know the actual percentage of the people. [5:15:27, 5:15:35]: on that side particular side. I know you said it was overwhelmingly overwhelmingly more than 50%. Um [5:15:36, 5:15:38]: From that particular side. [5:15:38, 5:15:42]: Uh because it does. It pretty much splits that subdivision into two. [5:15:42, 5:15:46]: Um and so with that I I will support it. [5:15:47, 5:15:48]: Any other comments? [5:15:49, 5:15:56]: Before the record, Mayor, sir. Cut through signs were installed on July 2nd in 2020. [5:15:57, 5:16:07]: I don't know. I ain't seen'em. Oh well, there there is one on the front side. It says no trucks. It does not say all traffic. It just says no trucks. But they do it anyway. Yeah. [5:16:09, 5:16:29]: Mr. Thomas, go ahead, sir. Yeah, I I would agree. Uh, under the circumstances, I know I know there's a policy in place, but sometimes we have to look past that. I think when it comes to the safety of our citizens, in particular the kids, and I didn't know this before, Mayor Pro Tem, about the kids. [5:16:29, 5:16:36]: Is having to cross the street to get to the swimming pool. I think with those kind of circumstances, I think we have to um [5:16:37, 5:16:38]: vote in favor of this. [5:16:38, 5:16:39]: All right. [5:16:40, 5:16:42]: All right, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [5:16:42, 5:16:43]: Uh [5:16:43, 5:16:59]: That's an unanimous decision. All right. So Mr. Mr. Aaron, uh, so I guess you got the mission now to go out there and um I don't know how how many how uh well I guess it's in the policy, how many feet of they're apart from one another, things of that nature. So you gotta go out there and analyze that and and get that installed. [5:17:00, 5:17:01]: All right. Yes, sir. All right. [5:17:01, 5:17:11]: Appreciate it. Okay. On that note, believe it or not, I have some comments, right? COVID 19 still among us. Matter of fact, they say this Omicron. Omicron variant is now out there. [5:17:12, 5:17:12]: I'll be done. [5:17:13, 5:17:14]: This doggone thing won't die. [5:17:15, 5:17:35]: All right. So anyway, so we still got COVID nineteen folks. We still gotta be careful. Still still gotta wear your mask, wash your hands, watch your distance, and get your vaccination. You gotta get a vaccination. Unfortunately, uh, we're right now in the state of Georgia, we are uh struggling about fifty-one percent across the state with uh people fully vaccinated. [5:17:35, 5:17:55]: And I think 58% what people um only with one doses of this vaccination. And CDC says, hey, get your booster shot as soon as possible. It's available. Supposedly it's good to go for anybody 18 or over to get a booster shot. And a little tad bit, take a flu shot too while you're at it. Get that out the way as well. [5:17:55, 5:18:00]: We are one end of the winner here shortly this aspect. Um [5:18:00, 5:18:07]: So I'll I'll just stop at that point, but uh we know we've been down this road. Uh one other thing, darn it. [5:18:07, 5:18:24]: We still got free COVID-19 testing in Red Hawk Field at uh on Henry Parkway, Monday to Friday, 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. And you want a vaccination course Department of Health uh at 135 uh Henry Parkway in Madonna, 800-847. Um [5:18:25, 5:18:40]: 4622, I believe that is. Okay. And then state of the state of department, uh the the State Department of Health, 888-7 uh 457-0186. And you call them and they'll tell you where you can get a vaccination taken care of. [5:18:40, 5:18:48]: On that note, let's go to the two uh announcements. Um planning commission meeting at 6:30 p.m. via Zoom, the revised meeting. [5:18:48, 5:18:50]: Date is going to be December second. [5:18:51, 5:18:57]: 6 30. U council meeting 5 30 by way of Zoom, second Wednesday of each month, uh December eighth. [5:19:00, 5:19:20]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting is second fire Friday of each month, 9 a.m. uh December 10th. It's by way of Zoom. The city council meeting and board hearing, budget hearing. I'm saying final adoption, 6 p.m. on the second day of the month, which is December 13th, which will be our first day where we have we're back in our chambers. [5:19:20, 5:19:40]: After a year plus year and a half, almost a year and three quarters. So December 13th in the chambers. And of course, just as we open up the buildings to the public last Monday, mass will be required, temperature checks will be required, and we'll separate people as best as possible, six feet or several seats apart from one. [5:19:40, 5:20:00]: another and the council along with the attorneys and the city and the city clerk will have uh uh plastic um or berries uh between us to keep us all safe in this aspect so december thirteenth in the chambers for the very first time in in a long time downtown author uh downtown development authority meeting six p.m by way of zoom third two [5:20:00, 5:20:20]: Tuesday of East Month on December 21st is that meeting. And youth council and violatory meeting, 630 by way of Zoom, second Tuesday, excuse me, third Tuesday of East Month, which is December 21st as well. And um it says in City Hall, but it's by way of Zoom. But anyway, youth council advisory meeting, but we'll say Zoom here. Planning Commission meeting, 630 by way of Zoom. [5:20:20, 5:20:26]: Zoom revised meeting schedule as on actually on the 16th of December for the Planning Commission meeting. [5:20:26, 5:20:31]: And please join uh Councilwoman Barber and Barbar Minus Conference Center for a free Zuma fitness. [5:20:32, 5:20:33]: Uh in the park. [5:20:33, 5:20:36]: Saturdays eight AM. Yes, ma'am. [5:20:36, 5:20:38]: That location has changed. [5:20:38, 5:20:47]: It's cold, so we've moved it to Eagles Landing Dance Center. That's at 627 Red Oak Road in Stockwell. [5:20:47, 5:20:56]: Okay, good deal. We'll make that appropriate change uh for the monthly updates uh uh in this aspect and annual holiday festival. [5:20:56, 5:20:58]: It's Thursday, December second. [5:20:58, 5:21:02]: Okay, five PM to nine p.m. at Meromana's Copper Center. [5:21:02, 5:21:20]: Outside in the out it'd be outside actually at 111 Davis Road and uh get a chance to see Santa and Mrs. Claus and Crystal Snow Princess and some live animals and reindeers and get into holiday festival uh spirit. On that note, I need motion to to uh adjourn our meeting. [5:21:22, 5:21:26]: So move. So move. Mr. Thomas, I guess you second that. [5:21:27, 5:21:31]: Well I I had a quick comment, but go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. [5:21:32, 5:21:45]: What's going on, sir? Well, I I just want to uh take this opportunity to thank all of the veterans that submitted that profile. Uh it was an honor for me to be able to uh recognize them and honor them. And because of [5:21:45, 5:22:05]: veterans are still asking can they submit profile. I just wanted to say that we will continue uh this on a monthly basis. So please uh submit your profile, your pictures, and and we will continue this process. Thanks to all of the veterans. And I appreciate that, sir. I appreciate it, sir. Since I'm a 30-year veteran, thank you very much. I appreciate your [5:22:05, 5:22:16]: your service to the veterans and to the city. Thank you for your service. All right, no problem. Okay. Mayor Pro 10, you made a motion. Councilman Thomas, you second that motion motion. All right. Good deal. [5:22:17, 5:22:18]: All in fair motion, please indicate. [5:22:19, 5:22:27]: Yes. All right. Good night. Good night. Good night. Sleep good. I'm out of you. Indeed.