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--- title: February 13 2017 City Council Meeting date: 2017-02-13 source: 2017-02-13_February_13_2017_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:13, 0:00:18]: Yeah. [0:00:30, 0:00:38]: And then [0:00:39, 0:00:40]: Oh wait no. [0:00:56, 0:01:02]: [ 81.0, 100.6]: Yeah. No. So it's not. [0:02:21, 0:02:28]: Okay. At this time we'll call the meeting of the Stockbridge City Council to order this evening. Um [0:02:30, 0:02:45]: I don't see Pastor Murel in the audience. Oh here he is back here in the back. He's hiding from me. Um if you would Pastor Murel come up, he is from the Stockbridge First Baptist Church and we appreciate him coming tonight to give us our invitation. Thank you. [0:02:48, 0:02:49]: Thank you so much. Let's pray. [0:02:50, 0:02:59]: Our Heavenly Father, we call on the name of the Lord our God tonight with thanksgiving for another day. For the wonderful gift of life, we thank the Lord. We bless you tonight. [0:03:00, 0:03:03]: For these who serve Lord, we thank you for the mayor, the council. [0:03:04, 0:03:21]: And for those who are citizens in this s uh very place, Lord, that we love called Stockbridge, we're thankful for each home and family. Thank you for those who work, Lord, as employees of the city. We pray your blessing upon them. Lord, we ask for wisdom and discernment in every deliberation tonight. [0:03:21, 0:03:41]: That you would be pleased to unite us as a people, Lord, and yet we could also celebrate our diversity, even in the meeting and in the business, but seek the mind and and the will of the Lord that would please you, Lord, in this place. We thank you for those who've come. We pray, Lord, that you will bless those who protect us and first responders and [0:03:41, 0:03:43]: Police and fire. [0:03:43, 0:03:45]: We're grateful for each one of them. [0:03:45, 0:03:51]: And Lord, we pray that we would be united as one nation truly under God. Even in this meeting tonight. [0:03:51, 0:03:58]: And then have a sense of the presence of the Lord leading and giving discernment and wisdom in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. [0:03:58, 0:03:59]: Thank you so much. [0:04:00, 0:04:19]: At this time, if you all would stand, we'll pledge the flag to the United States of America. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States and nation under God with liberty and justice. [0:04:24, 0:04:27]: At this time we'll ask our clerk for the roll call. [0:04:28, 0:04:29]: Councilman Alexander. [0:04:30, 0:04:32]: Present. Councilman Blind. [0:04:32, 0:04:41]: Present. Mayor Neal. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Councilwoman Robinson. Present. Mayor Neal, you have a quorum. [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: Thank you. [0:04:43, 0:04:47]: At this time uh I would like for a motion to adopt our evening agenda. [0:04:49, 0:04:50]: Man. [0:04:52, 0:04:54]: I move that we adopt the agenda. [0:04:55, 0:04:55]: Second. [0:04:56, 0:05:03]: We have a motion by Councilman Gantt with a second by Councilman Alexander. [0:05:03, 0:05:04]: All in favour? [0:05:06, 0:05:07]: All in favour? [0:05:08, 0:05:24]: the motion for the agenda. All right. Thank you so much. We'll move on. The next order of business real quick, um we're gonna uh adopt our minutes from pre several previous meetings. That would be from um december twelfth, twenty sixteen. [0:05:25, 0:05:37]: December fourteenth, twenty sixteen, december sixteenth, twenty sixteen, and twelve twenty seven, six twenty sixteen. Do I hear a motion to accept those minutes? So moved. [0:05:37, 0:05:38]: A second? [0:05:38, 0:05:39]: Second. [0:05:40, 0:05:48]: We have a motion by uh Pro Tem Ford and a second by Councilman Alexander. Uh all in favor? [0:05:50, 0:05:52]: Okay, thank you very much. [0:05:52, 0:05:59]: Uh at this point I'm gonna pause just for a minute and uh off our regular agenda to do two things. [0:05:59, 0:06:03]: One is that I want to ask uh Karina Patel [0:06:04, 0:06:06]: If she would stand in our audience [0:06:06, 0:06:25]: Uh co Karina, uh we made a lot of photographs before the um meeting started tonight. Co Karina has uh been awarded a scholarship to the US Naval Academy by her congressman and I want all of us to stand up and give her [0:06:36, 0:06:51]: Not only is Karina here herself, but her um adoring parents are here tonight also, and we want to thank the uh Patels for um what a beautiful family you have been living in America and our community. Thank you so much. [0:06:51, 0:07:11]: At this time I would also like to recognize the fact that this is Black History Month and uh before you all arrived we had um a Black History Um Month presentation and also a recognition of our county commissioner from the Fifth District, Bruce Holmes. We'd like to ask him to stand and all of you if [0:07:11, 0:07:13]: You would stand and give them a little bit. [0:07:22, 0:07:32]: If you've ever been to Fairview, you can see that big footprint of uh Commissioner Holmes up in Fairview. He's done a lot of wonderful things for our county and we thank you for that. [0:07:32, 0:07:48]: All right, at this time we're going to move along with our meeting. And the next thing on our uh agenda tonight is an organizational appointment. And that simply means that uh our pro tem who served last year, Anthony Ford, [0:07:48, 0:08:02]: uh is being reappointed by his peers to serve um that the pro tem uh fills in from the m for the mayor when the ma whenever the mayor is not here. So I would like a motion for that um [0:08:03, 0:08:05]: Uh appointment. [0:08:07, 0:08:13]: Okay. We have a motion by Councilman F um Alexander. Do I hear a second? Second. [0:08:13, 0:08:15]: Is there any discussion on that? [0:08:15, 0:08:17]: We all set? All right. All in favor. [0:08:19, 0:08:23]: Well it looks like unanimous you are. [0:08:28, 0:08:35]: All right, yes. All right, thank you. [0:08:36, 0:08:56]: At this time we will be uh listening to some public comments if we have those. If if every I wanna make a point to let everybody in the audience know if you ever come to City Council and you want to speak, you certainly have that opportunity to do so. We ask that you pick up a yellow sheet. [0:08:56, 0:09:12]: out in the um uh entryway and fill it out and turn it in to the clerk just before the meeting begins and that way you will assure that you get to come up to the podium and present remarks. Do we have any of those uh tonight? [0:09:14, 0:09:20]: We do. Mayor Neal, I need to uh do m I do need to make one note to Ms. Janet Buckler. [0:09:21, 0:09:31]: You have filled out a public comment form regarding an item on the agenda that's a public hearing item, you'll be able to speak at that point. Okay. [0:09:32, 0:09:32]: Okay. [0:09:32, 0:09:35]: The next one is Ms. Mildred Reid. [0:09:36, 0:09:36]: Okay. [0:09:37, 0:09:38]: We ask it myself. [0:09:39, 0:09:40]: Mildred Reed is a [0:09:40, 0:09:43]: Good volunteer in our community come forward. [0:09:45, 0:09:53]: Again, my name is Mildred Reed, five thirty Creek View Overlook. Before I get started, I wanna pass out to the council members. [0:09:59, 0:10:16]: This presentation is specifically addressed today to the mayor and city council members, but also I would ask the individuals in the audience to please take note because you will be involved. We're asking for you to. We're asking the council for financial support. [0:10:17, 0:10:25]: As you're probably aware, Henry County includes the city of Stockbridge and has a very large population of senior adults. [0:10:25, 0:10:44]: is a valued population and it is vital that we as a community work together to see that there our daily needs continue to be met. Many of our senior adults are homebound with little or no contact with others and many may suffer from poor nutritional health. [0:10:45, 0:11:02]: Henry County Senior Services, in conjunction with the Henry County Council on Aging, our director is here, Mildred Smeltz, the chair of the Council on Aging, is able to reach out and provide hot meals through the Meals on Wheels, as well as nutritional supplements and home health care. [0:11:03, 0:11:10]: Unfortunately, due to budgetary restraints, we sometimes have to place our seniors on a waiting list. [0:11:10, 0:11:19]: Uh we are asking for the city council if if you could become a sponsor of this annual miles for meal walk. [0:11:19, 0:11:36]: By I have a recommended amount that I would like to see you all look at on your chart, which is the silver sponsor. Hopefully you'll be able to do that. And this walk will be held on Saturday. It's an annual event every first Saturday in May. [0:11:36, 0:11:39]: This set this year it will be May sixth. [0:11:39, 0:11:59]: Uh and the sponsorship form is attached so that you all can decide and vote if we want to if the city of Stockwritch wants to do this. As far as the other members of the council, I mean citizens are concerned, we will ask the citizen support by walking for miles for meals, and also you will see information. [0:11:59, 0:12:05]: information coming out in the near future with applications and sponsorship. [0:12:05, 0:12:07]: That we would like for every citizen [0:12:07, 0:12:23]: and stock with with every citizen in Henry County to be involved. Thank you very much. Thank you. Uh I would assume that we will take this up in our work session meeting which comes up in a couple of weeks for discussion. So thank you so much, Mildred. [0:12:24, 0:12:28]: Are there others? There are no further comments. Okay. [0:12:28, 0:12:33]: All right, at this time um we have some presentations. One is [0:12:34, 0:12:54]: Uh twenty seventeen Paint Henry Blue and this is raising awareness for the prevention of child abuse. It's the kickoff month in Stockbridge on March thirtieth and they are requesting the use of the Merrill Manders Conference Center for that event and this will be presented by [0:12:54, 0:13:06]: Susan Crutchville to take the side. Mayor Neal. Due to illness I would ask the council to actually table this item to be heard on February twenty eighth at the work session. [0:13:06, 0:13:09]: Do I hear a motion to table until the work session? [0:13:09, 0:13:10]: So moved. [0:13:10, 0:13:12]: Um do I hear a second. [0:13:13, 0:13:16]: Okay, we have a motion by Councilwoman Gantt. [0:13:17, 0:13:19]: Well the second with by Pro Tem Ford. [0:13:20, 0:13:23]: And all in fav or do we have discussion on that? [0:13:24, 0:13:27]: No discussion? All in favor? [0:13:28, 0:13:30]: Okay, thank you so much. [0:13:32, 0:13:52]: Okay, now we have some old business and this is going to be a number of appointments to various um councils, committees, that kind of thing. Um and I would like to ask my colleagues here if you all would like for me to read all of these and make a motion to take them all in at one time. [0:13:52, 0:13:57]: time is or do you want to just do'em one by one? All at one time, after we read'em. [0:13:58, 0:14:05]: Okay? And if we accept'em all. Okay? All right, let me start. The first one is going to be um [0:14:06, 0:14:26]: one of our own uh on the dais. This is the council appointment of a council representative on our Main Street advisory board. And that is going to be Anthony Ford, our pro tem. He served last year. He's willing to do that again. That's going to be uh the first one. The second [0:14:26, 0:14:39]: Second one, this will be appointments to the Main Street Advisory Board and it will be for two citizen appointments and that would be for Willie E. Hopkins and for Greg Horton. [0:14:40, 0:14:58]: Okay, next appointments of Counsel on Aging Representative, and that is tonight Tyrone C. Anderson, and he's in our audience. I know I saw him. Um appointed to the zoning advisory board, Shirley Wallace. [0:14:58, 0:15:09]: And then appointments on our youth council. I want to hold those just one second. If your name has been called so far, would you please stand and let us recognize you? [0:15:12, 0:15:18]: All right, thank you so much. Now then the appointment of Youth Council Advisory Committee [0:15:18, 0:15:22]: And that's going to be um a number of names. Emma Lewis. [0:15:23, 0:15:24]: Kenneth McFarlane. [0:15:24, 0:15:26]: Diane Miller. [0:15:27, 0:15:42]: Jacqueline Carter, Xavier Ross, Pamela Warner, and Callie Robinson. Are any of those people in the audience tonight? Okay. Uh oh, we do could you identify your name? [0:15:42, 0:15:43]: Thank you. [0:15:45, 0:15:58]: Xavier, okay. I I couldn't quite hear. All right, thank you, Xavier. All right, let me okay. At this time do I hear a motion that we accept all of these names? [0:15:59, 0:16:19]: Do I hear a motion that we accept these names? Mayor Protem. I mean Mayor Neal, apologies. I accept the names of appointments for the Youth Council Advisory Committee. Second. All right. All right. We have a motion to accept all of these names by um our councilwoman. [0:16:19, 0:16:22]: Mannet Robinson with a second by um [0:16:23, 0:16:24]: Council [0:16:25, 0:16:27]: Alexander. [0:16:27, 0:16:28]: Alexander. [0:16:29, 0:16:37]: And I was distracted just for a moment in the back. Uh do I have any emotion and I have the motion. Do I have a second? [0:16:37, 0:16:39]: Got it? Any discussion? [0:16:41, 0:16:43]: No discussion. All in favor? [0:16:43, 0:16:44]: It's me. [0:16:45, 0:16:48]: We want to especially thank all of these people [0:16:48, 0:16:56]: It it's wonderful when citizens step step forward and agree to serve, so we thank you so much for that, all of you. [0:17:03, 0:17:22]: At this time we are going to pause and we're going to go into our public hearing and that will be to discuss a variance request and it will regard a well known company, Waffle House, and that will be presented by our city manager, Mike Michael Harris. [0:17:25, 0:17:29]: Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem and Council. Um this was heard [0:17:29, 0:17:31]: at the last work session meeting [0:17:31, 0:17:35]: And again as a reiteration, this is a variance request from Waffle House. [0:17:35, 0:17:40]: located in North Cross Georgia. The variance is for is from development regulations [0:17:40, 0:17:47]: and request is uh two f two requests. One is to increase the allowable size of one ground size one ground sign. [0:17:47, 0:18:07]: and to increase the allowable number of wall signs from two to three. At the um work session there was some conversation in regards to um the location and whether or not um that was top of conversation. In this case this isn't has nothing to do with the location. They are by right and by the current zoning they are [0:18:07, 0:18:17]: are allowed to be um to locate there and they have they're going through the the permitting process now with location itself. So what's being considered this evening is [0:18:17, 0:18:19]: And I'll bring up the pictures real quick. [0:18:21, 0:18:21]: Um [0:18:23, 0:18:25]: A couple of variances. One for [0:18:27, 0:18:28]: The ground sign. [0:18:29, 0:18:30]: As it stands. [0:18:32, 0:18:34]: Because of their [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: Because of the configuration of the building [0:18:41, 0:18:43]: Yeah, because of the configuration you have the [0:18:45, 0:19:05]: Yeah, please. Because of the configuration of the building, one side of the Waffle House is very narrow. It's a very long, narrow building. And per our ordinance, the they're allowed to have um their sign can it should match the up to up to sixty four square feet of the yeah, there it is. Um [0:19:04, 0:19:16]: Uh based on the um width the the frontage of the of the width of the building. So go back to the other one please. Um in this case the frontage is only like twenty four, twenty five square feet. [0:19:16, 0:19:18]: So that would take them to a twenty square foot [0:19:19, 0:19:21]: ground sign what you see here on your right. [0:19:22, 0:19:24]: What they're asking for is a [0:19:25, 0:19:27]: Um more conventional fifty square foot sign. [0:19:27, 0:19:30]: It should be eight foot, which meets our requirements. [0:19:30, 0:19:31]: By thirteen feet. [0:19:32, 0:19:50]: Um there are a few this is right near the corner near Parkside. There are a few other signs in this area. McDonald's is across the street, slightly bigger, CVS and the bottle shot, all those would be slightly bigger than what's being proposed here with the variants. But I think at the last meeting it was asked what would the other sign look like. [0:19:50, 0:19:51]: And this is it. So [0:19:52, 0:19:55]: This gives you an idea of what that's one of the [0:19:56, 0:19:56]: Request [0:19:57, 0:20:04]: Um there was request in regards to how would it compare based to the one that's McDonald's, it gives you comparison. [0:20:05, 0:20:06]: But those two signs. [0:20:07, 0:20:09]: And [0:20:10, 0:20:11]: If we can find the [0:20:12, 0:20:22]: The other one is for a comparison of the is to add a a uh a wall sign on the on the side of the building. [0:20:24, 0:20:25]: You can't pull that one up. [0:20:27, 0:20:33]: 'Cause right now they have uh they're currently showing two wall signs and this would be for a third wall sign. Third um [0:20:36, 0:20:38]: We pull that up. [0:20:52, 0:20:59]: So um yeah give me a minute I'll pull that one up. Any questions while I'm working on that? Working through that. [0:21:00, 0:21:04]: From council. Is it okay if I say one comment about this? [0:21:05, 0:21:11]: I want to make sure that everybody in the audience could hear uh the explanation about [0:21:11, 0:21:12]: This item [0:21:13, 0:21:19]: And also I want to ask if this is the item that you signed up to speak on. Okay. [0:21:19, 0:21:20]: All right. [0:21:20, 0:21:22]: We we will allow that once we get to [0:21:22, 0:21:23]: to this point. [0:21:24, 0:21:30]: I wanna make sure that everyone in the room understands what we're voting on tonight. [0:21:31, 0:21:34]: There have been a lot of rumors going around. [0:21:34, 0:21:36]: And um [0:21:36, 0:21:39]: And and I wanna make sure that everybody understands. [0:21:39, 0:21:41]: The Waffle House [0:21:44, 0:21:49]: meets the zoning requirements, just like the McDonalds did across the street. [0:21:51, 0:21:54]: So that's one thing I wanted to share. [0:21:55, 0:21:58]: What they're asking for on that third sign [0:21:59, 0:22:03]: is exactly what McDonalds has across the street. [0:22:03, 0:22:07]: They have a sign, a big sign on one side of their building. [0:22:07, 0:22:14]: and a big logo type sign on the other side of their building, which makes two. And then they have a sign on the front. [0:22:15, 0:22:19]: So I want you to understand that we're not doing [0:22:19, 0:22:21]: This presentation is about [0:22:22, 0:22:24]: what fits within the zoning code. [0:22:25, 0:22:27]: And I'm not pushing for. [0:22:27, 0:22:29]: Or against. [0:22:29, 0:22:37]: I'm just telling you, I want you to be sure that you understand before you leave here tonight what is being asked. [0:22:38, 0:22:45]: Um Michael? Yeah, and and here is to pull up the this is the view for the variants for the wall signs. [0:22:46, 0:22:49]: Again, as noted, typically it'd be two wall signs. [0:22:49, 0:22:51]: In this case because of the configuration in it. [0:22:51, 0:22:54]: fronts on also on park side and [0:22:54, 0:22:55]: Ego's landing. [0:22:56, 0:22:58]: They're asking for a third wall sign. [0:22:59, 0:22:59]: Um [0:23:00, 0:23:04]: showing up in the in the brick recess, this would be the channel letters. [0:23:04, 0:23:23]: That are being offered. So this is a request. That's the the nature of it. The applicant is here and I'm sure you'd like to give this presentation speaking a little bit on as well. But if you have any questions from staff, we'd love to be happy to address them. We'll let the applicant speak and then we will let anyone that signed up to address this issue come to the microphone after the applicant comes. [0:23:35, 0:23:41]: Good evening. My name is Sanford McAllister. I am an employee of the Waffle House Corporation located in Norcross, Georgia. [0:23:41, 0:23:42]: And [0:23:43, 0:23:46]: I can further expand on the two variances that [0:23:46, 0:23:49]: Mr. Harris has outlined that we are seeking tonight. [0:23:50, 0:23:50]: And [0:23:51, 0:23:53]: They're both related to the unique [0:23:54, 0:23:58]: Hardships are created by the lot the the configuration as he referred to. [0:23:58, 0:24:00]: is very um [0:24:00, 0:24:10]: at the end of the day it's as simple as we're sandwiched between the road on one side and a drainage swell on the other side. So the building has to be oriented that way. [0:24:10, 0:24:12]: And due to the code. [0:24:12, 0:24:12]: Which [0:24:13, 0:24:15]: obligates the applicants to [0:24:17, 0:24:20]: apply for a sign that is related to the building [0:24:21, 0:24:23]: facade that actually faces the uh [0:24:24, 0:24:32]: the right of way in this case, Eagles Lane Parkway, that's our narrow end of the building and there's no way to rotate it ninety degrees. If we did rotate it ninety degrees as I've shared [0:24:32, 0:24:34]: uh previously the work session. [0:24:35, 0:24:41]: we wouldn't have this conversation because we would actually be able to have more signage than we're asking for, which is only fifty square feet. [0:24:41, 0:24:50]: If I knew how to operate this I would take it back to but hopefully I know one of you on this side, I don't recall which wanted to see the perspectives and have you seen those in [0:24:51, 0:24:51]: Okay. [0:24:52, 0:24:54]: And so not only are [0:24:54, 0:24:56]: is our sign, our ground sign. [0:24:56, 0:25:02]: uh within the code as far as the height, the only variance we are requesting is for the area itself. [0:25:03, 0:25:04]: And [0:25:04, 0:25:16]: again that's a function of the orientation of the building and we wouldn't wouldn't need to do that. And an another thing that I think is worth worth mentioning on the wall signage that was uh illustrated just a moment ago [0:25:17, 0:25:28]: that that those facades by code you can have up to a hundred square feet of wall signage. We want to keep things as tasteful as you've seen presented there and those signs are only thirty square feet. [0:25:29, 0:25:32]: much, much smaller than what is allowable on on the wall sign. [0:25:32, 0:25:33]: And so [0:25:34, 0:25:35]: That's the um [0:25:36, 0:25:37]: the background on what brings me [0:25:38, 0:25:39]: to you tonight. [0:25:39, 0:25:43]: I did have the opportunity to speak with two of the board members of the neighbouring [0:25:43, 0:25:46]: uh home development and parkside and and they [0:25:46, 0:25:53]: uh we met today and and talked through and they seem to completely understand s and support what we're we're heading toward. [0:25:54, 0:25:55]: So [0:25:57, 0:26:05]: I think that is the extent of of of what I wanted to share with you and you want to ask me any questions now or wait until [0:26:05, 0:26:05]: Um [0:26:10, 0:26:12]: Let let's hear um [0:26:13, 0:26:19]: Could could you pause and let me bring up could you give me the name again of the person who would like to speak? [0:26:19, 0:26:23]: Okay, you can go ahead. And [0:26:26, 0:26:27]: With a motion. [0:26:27, 0:26:30]: Well you don't need a motion, just open the Okay. [0:26:31, 0:26:36]: Okay, we're gonna open this into a hearing format to allow this speaker to come forward. [0:26:37, 0:26:38]: Both in favour or opposed. [0:26:39, 0:26:40]: Thank you, Pardon. [0:26:40, 0:26:44]: Yeah. [0:26:46, 0:26:51]: Oh do to vote on the Waffle House first? If you want people to speak in favor? [0:26:51, 0:26:51]: First [0:26:52, 0:27:00]: We only have one person speaking. We don't know that. Okay. All right. Okay. At this point I stand corrected. [0:27:00, 0:27:05]: Um if we have people in the audience who want to speak in favor of [0:27:07, 0:27:11]: Okay, anybody who's speaking in favour, off the Waffle House. [0:27:12, 0:27:16]: And Madame Clerk, there's a someone in the back that's still holding her [0:27:17, 0:27:26]: um piece but I think she's an opposition voter, so let's bring that up first. All right. Anyone in uh wanting to be in favor of this, please come forward. [0:27:28, 0:27:28]: If not [0:27:29, 0:27:34]: The clerk will call the names and have the two or others if there are others in the audience. [0:27:34, 0:27:37]: Okay. Janet Buchler? [0:27:38, 0:27:39]: Point of order. [0:27:40, 0:27:43]: She's against. She's coming up to speak against. Point of order. [0:27:44, 0:27:50]: Yes. There's anybody can come up and speak at this point to see you. [0:27:50, 0:27:52]: Right. You don't have to sign in. [0:27:55, 0:28:02]: All right, the people who have signed in are coming up first, okay? And then anyone else will be able to come up after that. So [0:28:02, 0:28:05]: Please come up to the podium, just come right around and [0:28:09, 0:28:15]: My name is Janet Beekler. I live at Parkside at Eagles Landing. I just have a couple of questions mainly. [0:28:16, 0:28:19]: And I think they were basically answered. [0:28:19, 0:28:21]: The there is no high sign. [0:28:21, 0:28:22]: It's lit. [0:28:23, 0:28:24]: Michael. [0:28:24, 0:28:35]: Could you help her is there a high sign that's lit or is it just the ground sign and the light the lights around the building? It's just the ground sign. [0:28:35, 0:28:36]: I have no problem. [0:28:37, 0:28:38]: Thank you so much. [0:28:39, 0:28:40]: Next person please. [0:28:44, 0:28:48]: And when you come to speak always give your street address and your name. Thank you. [0:28:49, 0:28:52]: And in this is an opposition, perhaps. [0:28:52, 0:28:57]: Yes, I've missed being able to oppose the fact that other [0:28:57, 0:29:00]: I've missed it uh of being [0:29:01, 0:29:03]: i in favor of opposing. [0:29:03, 0:29:05]: Waffle House being there. But [0:29:06, 0:29:09]: It's not so much that I oppose. [0:29:09, 0:29:11]: A business going there. [0:29:11, 0:29:13]: It's a twenty four seven. [0:29:13, 0:29:15]: business going in there. [0:29:15, 0:29:18]: You talk about McDonald's across the street. [0:29:18, 0:29:22]: It's cross street. It's not quite beside [0:29:22, 0:29:25]: where my granddaughter plays on the playground. [0:29:25, 0:29:32]: where I take her to the swimming pool, t right beside it. Y'all have not even taken that into consideration. [0:29:33, 0:29:34]: Uh [0:29:34, 0:29:41]: And you're talking about giving more signage. Do they really need signage on the right side facing our menatees area? [0:29:42, 0:29:45]: It's bad enough that the board has approved [0:29:46, 0:29:49]: in a residential area of this type business. [0:29:49, 0:29:52]: Surely you could have approved some other business. [0:29:52, 0:29:55]: Than a Waffle House. I mean, I love Waffle House. I go there. [0:29:56, 0:30:01]: There are already three waffle houses on that one stretch. [0:30:01, 0:30:04]: Th you know, this is gonna be the fourth [0:30:05, 0:30:05]: You allowed [0:30:06, 0:30:09]: McDonald's to go in across the street. [0:30:09, 0:30:12]: We already have a fed problem. [0:30:13, 0:30:19]: We were promised the moon and given nothing for when the Eagles Landing was expanded. [0:30:19, 0:30:23]: There's gonna be deaths trying to get out of Parkside. [0:30:23, 0:30:25]: Tonight when I was coming here [0:30:26, 0:30:32]: I had to wait ten minutes to get all the way across to be able to turn left. [0:30:32, 0:30:34]: I could've went on town a mile. [0:30:35, 0:30:42]: But it's ridiculous. I can't go out of the backside of Parkside and turn left. I can't go anywhere out of Parkside and turn left. [0:30:43, 0:30:46]: Please give some consideration to us. [0:30:46, 0:30:50]: And don't make it look so business since it's already been approved. [0:30:51, 0:30:56]: And I wasn't able to oppose either this or McDonald's. [0:30:57, 0:31:03]: You know, I expected it to be a business. It was zoned. I just didn't want a twenty four seven [0:31:03, 0:31:07]: Where lights are gonna be shining in my neighbor's backyard. [0:31:07, 0:31:09]: I'm the fourth house on the right. [0:31:10, 0:31:17]: It's not gonna affect me that terribly much, but it is the person that's gonna be backed up to that. They're gonna have all kind of lights. [0:31:18, 0:31:19]: Uh you know. [0:31:19, 0:31:25]: Please take into consideration the residents. There's about two hundred people that live in Parkside. [0:31:25, 0:31:26]: And [0:31:26, 0:31:34]: Y'all haven't taken any of this into consideration by approving this. Again, I love to eat at Waffle House. I just don't want one as my neighbor. [0:31:35, 0:31:40]: Thank you. And we have your name and address on the form. Thank you so much. [0:31:40, 0:31:44]: All right. Is there anyone else in the audience that would like to speak? [0:31:46, 0:31:47]: Against [0:31:48, 0:31:48]: The project. [0:31:49, 0:31:49]: Please come up. [0:31:50, 0:31:51]: No, you're okay. [0:31:51, 0:31:56]: Anyone any anyone in the audience that wants to speak for the project? [0:31:56, 0:31:57]: All right, Ms. Uh. [0:31:58, 0:32:00]: Bishop Breyer, please come up. [0:32:00, 0:32:02]: Give your name and address. [0:32:08, 0:32:09]: Mm. [0:32:10, 0:32:15]: My name is uh Bishop Irving Breyer, I'm at 111 Barrington Parkway, Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:32:15, 0:32:16]: Okay. [0:32:19, 0:32:26]: I wanted to bring the I wasn't clear on Adidas or on ground for the ground side. [0:32:27, 0:32:29]: These are not coming out, so it's on facial. [0:32:30, 0:32:35]: These are mounted on the they're channel letters mounted on the building. So they're not on the ground? [0:32:35, 0:32:38]: No, no, no, these are not. There is another ground size. [0:32:41, 0:32:52]: Bishop Breyer, could you raise the question verbally so the audience can hear your questions? Where the signs are. There are two on the building and they wanted those enlarged. [0:32:54, 0:32:55]: No sir. The [0:32:56, 0:33:01]: One request is to for the size of the ground mount the ground ground sign. [0:33:02, 0:33:03]: And the other one is for the [0:33:04, 0:33:10]: on the building. I'm concerned about the ground side. That's the ground side. That's what he's asking. [0:33:10, 0:33:15]: Block any traffic ongoing for either park site or fire. [0:33:15, 0:33:24]: Ask a lot of questions, you just get to be for or against, okay? He's shown you what you asked to see. But the reason I have to ask that I can't tell from the drawings. [0:33:24, 0:33:26]: If it's in the way of traffic. [0:33:27, 0:33:30]: For instance, if I'm going over that old if I'm coming up the bridge now [0:33:31, 0:33:35]: I'm distracted by that big sign coming over that that bridge. [0:33:35, 0:33:37]: So if that ground side [0:33:37, 0:33:41]: interferes with traffic on Eagles Landing or Park side. [0:33:42, 0:33:43]: Then it's [0:33:44, 0:33:46]: I couldn't appro I couldn't be in favour of it. [0:33:46, 0:33:49]: As long as that sign does not impair vision. [0:33:50, 0:33:51]: Then it's fine with me. [0:33:52, 0:33:53]: Because the height is okay. [0:33:54, 0:34:02]: Okay. Let let's bring the Waffle House people back up and let him uh respond to this if you would. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. [0:34:03, 0:34:06]: Mayor, if I may, while he's coming, I I did want to clarify [0:34:06, 0:34:09]: Um something one of the residents did say. It it is [0:34:10, 0:34:18]: It wasn't for this council to approve or disapprove. It never came before this council for approval or disapproval because the property has been zoned. [0:34:18, 0:34:23]: Um so the property was zoned and in this case the use has been proposed. [0:34:23, 0:34:24]: [2064.3, 2080.0]: amenable to that to that zoning. So there wasn't anything to come before this or any other body to ask for permission because the zoning was currently in place. And I did also want to note that um it was heard by the zoning advisory board two weeks ago and it was approved by the zoning advisory board. So [0:34:41, 0:34:45]: And I apologize for not identifying my the Waffle House people, the other [0:34:45, 0:34:49]: thing that makes a plural is Richard Voigt. He's our in house counsel and he has made the journey down and [0:34:50, 0:34:52]: That is the rest of our people. I forgot to mention that. [0:34:52, 0:34:56]: Uh, could you pause for me? Bishop Ryer you can take your seat while he [0:34:56, 0:34:59]: It's his turn now. Thank you. And so the answer to [0:35:00, 0:35:01]: His question. [0:35:01, 0:35:10]: the actual edge of a pavement is the sign is forty two feet beyond there and traffic and engineering have um [0:35:10, 0:35:14]: rules and requirements that uh they call a site triangle to ensure that there's not a [0:35:14, 0:35:22]: a traffic hazard created in terms of visibility from the signage. So it is a full forty two feet back from the edge of pavement and [0:35:22, 0:35:24]: And even further from the right away. So [0:35:24, 0:35:26]: That is how it's situated on the site plan. [0:35:26, 0:35:27]: Okay. [0:35:27, 0:35:30]: Any other comments for or against? [0:35:32, 0:35:39]: At this time we will I will ask for a motion for this variance request. [0:35:40, 0:35:41]: Is there a motion? [0:35:41, 0:35:43]: Yeah, I asked you to close the public hearing. [0:35:43, 0:35:45]: Oh, thank you for reminding me. [0:35:46, 0:35:46]: All right. [0:35:47, 0:35:51]: We will close the public hearing at this point and move on to the vote. [0:35:56, 0:35:59]: At this time do I hear a request for [0:36:02, 0:36:02]: We make a comment? [0:36:03, 0:36:05]: Can we make a comment? [0:36:05, 0:36:05]: Alors. [0:36:07, 0:36:10]: Um, do you want to hold that until we get to the point of discussion? [0:36:11, 0:36:11]: Or [0:36:13, 0:36:15]: Mr Attorney, I need your [0:36:16, 0:36:20]: A as a presiding officer you have the discretion to allow. [0:36:20, 0:36:27]: All right. If anyone on the uh Dais has an uh uh comment, please make them now and we'll start with the Councilman Robinson. [0:36:27, 0:36:43]: Um I just wanna address everyone um because there has been a lot of concerns and um I just wanted to be clear that this council it did not come before this council. Um so there was some concerns as well. Um but at this point [0:36:43, 0:36:52]: Um there's nothing this council can do. So I just wanted to make that clear um to everyone, real clear. Thank you. Mayor. [0:36:54, 0:37:00]: I have a request uh from my seat net here from Councilman Blount. We'll go to him next. [0:37:01, 0:37:09]: Um yes, I've talked to many residents of the city of Stockbridge and one of my main concerns when it was first brought up is that [0:37:09, 0:37:29]: Um I would like to see any new development that's gonna be proposed for the city of Stockbridge in the future so that the public can be aware of what's going on, even if it's been permitted and if it's gonna come through the city of Stockbridge, because all the feedback that I'm getting is negative feedback. Uh that is a concern of mine because I remember on even on my campaign. [0:37:29, 0:37:49]: Trail, although I was one of my signs were in a distance from the street. It was still impairing vision coming uh all depending on which way you was coming from tracker, so I had to move that um move my sign back because of that. We we we're talking about something that's already been approved for as a building for his Waffle House, but [0:37:49, 0:38:09]: But um when it comes to my position as a city council member, my concerns are those that are not only in my community but all the citizens of Stockbridge and and the feedback I'm getting from them and which I brought also to um I'm assuming the the developer is that in the city in that area is so unique and so interesting that after ten o'clock [0:38:09, 0:38:11]: Mostly everything is closed there. [0:38:12, 0:38:20]: uh uh in in that area. So what we're attracting and then we can't w we as a council, since we had no idea [0:38:20, 0:38:27]: uh what was gonna be coming there and we had no choice of what was coming there. We couldn't get feedback from any citizens [0:38:27, 0:38:32]: like we're getting tonight, which I think we should in the future, so maybe we'll make those adjustments. [0:38:32, 0:38:36]: Um because those are some concerns when it comes to twenty four hour lights. [0:38:36, 0:38:42]: uh and traffic uh uh impedement for uh the citizens to get in and out of uh their driveways. [0:38:43, 0:38:45]: Any other comments? Councilman Alexander. [0:38:45, 0:39:05]: Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I want to echo uh what Councilman Blount said. Pretty much uh all the feedback that I've gotten has been negative as well. And um, you know, when it really comes to this, we do have three waffle houses already down uh this line or down this road. Um where it really comes [0:39:05, 0:39:06]: [2347.4, 2353.1]: this council and the city is challenged to do better. [0:39:13, 0:39:14]: As a group. [0:39:14, 0:39:20]: because we need to look at every parcel in the city [0:39:20, 0:39:27]: and identify situations like this so in the future you can have your input. [0:39:27, 0:39:38]: The only way that you're gonna have your input in the future is in that we undertake this task of identifying each individual parcel because this Waffle House [0:39:38, 0:39:58]: parcel was zoned previously so the Waffle House or anyone else would pretty much that fit that zoning requirement would not have to come to us. Uh I personally have spoken with the city manager about reviewing each parcel in Stockbridge. Uh we had a similar situation happening [0:39:58, 0:40:05]: happen in front of uh Monarch Village subdivision where a family dollar was going to go there. [0:40:05, 0:40:25]: And and we we still have not uh identified that as a group. So I I say today that uh we have to do better and we're going to do better. And as far as this is concerned, no personally uh the Waffle House is already there, but at the same time, can I vote for any any of this? No or can [0:40:25, 0:40:37]: not because personally uh the situation is it is what it is and uh is it i is it our purview to approve or deny, I can't support it. [0:40:38, 0:40:44]: Are there any other comments by council members? Yes, Madam Mayor. Um Councilman Yant. [0:40:44, 0:40:49]: Um, just so that everyone understands and I and I have a question as well. [0:40:50, 0:41:06]: Um in regards to the Waffle House or any store or any type of business that's coming here, we're not necessarily the first people to know what business is coming. Most of the time the business is already gonna be here, it's already been planned, they've done all their paperwork. [0:41:07, 0:41:27]: They come to us for zoning ordinance changes or signs such as these or something some type of variance that they need. So the McDonalds, they were already there. They came to us to get some type of variance. If it's a hotel and if it's zoned already in that property, they they're already there. They come to us [0:41:27, 0:41:47]: After the fact. A lot of times people keep real estate deals very hush hush, especially commercial. Um the community as a whole, we can ask for certain restaurants. [0:41:47, 0:42:05]: FYI so you're aware and you get a a clear picture of what's going on here, you know, we can't control what stores come here and ask us if we don't know in advance. Um it's just not something that we we have um the ability to do. [0:42:05, 0:42:23]: Um and my last my one of my questions, um one of the citizens did come up and make a comment and state that we could at least consider not putting a sign on one of the sides of the Waffle House that is facing their amenities. And so [0:42:24, 0:42:33]: I want to know what side that would be, if it's facing their side of their amenities, um and if it is, what side is that on? [0:42:36, 0:42:44]: On the west side. On the west side. So is that the right the extra the third sign would be? Okay. [0:42:45, 0:42:53]: And is there is there anything blocking that view so that this the neighborhood wouldn't see the sign if they didn't want to see it or [0:42:54, 0:42:56]: Is it's gonna I'm sorry. [0:43:01, 0:43:20]: And Mr. Harris, is there something that we can do about that? Is it on their property or the property in the neighborhood subdivision? Yeah, I'm not sure if there's a buffer currently located on I think there's some part of a buffer on the Waffle House property it stands right now. Wanna come back to the microphone? [0:43:22, 0:43:23]: See if the site plans up here. [0:43:27, 0:43:35]: Yes, there is a significant buffer along the entire stretch on the side, the west side. [0:43:35, 0:43:39]: Uh as a matter of fact, it's very significant. It it's wooded and it's also in a swale. [0:43:39, 0:43:41]: The diagram that you're seeing now, I don't [0:43:41, 0:43:43]: Guess I have do I have a way to point on this? [0:43:44, 0:43:46]: the mouse, all of those [0:43:50, 0:43:55]: lines right here are the slope and there's nothing but trees there. [0:43:55, 0:43:56]: Um [0:43:57, 0:44:06]: all the way through. As a matter of fact, you know, they actually asked me today, hey, I hope you'll clean up some of the brush underneath there when we was meeting with two board members,'cause it's a lot. [0:44:06, 0:44:11]: there and it's a all each of those lines represents a one footfall in topography. [0:44:11, 0:44:13]: in that swell that I described. [0:44:13, 0:44:14]: There it is. [0:44:14, 0:44:15]: Fully would it. [0:44:16, 0:44:20]: Okay. So will those that buffer remain to allow so the sand wouldn't [0:44:21, 0:44:25]: It would blot the view basically. Yeah, definitely. [0:44:25, 0:44:28]: From their amenities, yeah, um it it definitely is [0:44:28, 0:44:30]: Very well screened and [0:44:31, 0:44:32]: And the other thing. [0:44:32, 0:44:33]: the entire [0:44:34, 0:44:44]: part as plans that we've submitted indicate, nothing's being removed there. All of that intentionally is is intended to maintain a a very solid buffer. [0:44:46, 0:45:06]: All right. Do we have any other questions or comments by counsel? Yeah. Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate it. It's my understanding that the with the McDonald's, which is a c obviously across the street, that uh they asked for a variance as well, and that variance came that occurred back in October of twenty fourteen and that aspect so the president's uh has already been [0:45:05, 0:45:25]: And set per se in that aspect. But it's good to know that there's a good amount of buffer uh between on that west side and between that and the community, it seems like. So uh that should uh that should hopefully suffice. Uh but on that note, uh since it deals with various, I'd like to make a motion uh that the council considers the variances uh that [0:45:25, 0:45:31]: that the uh Waffle House is uh uh uh presenting and that uh be approved. [0:45:32, 0:45:38]: I hear a motion by Pro Tem Ford. Do I hear a second to that motion? [0:45:41, 0:45:43]: Do I hear a second to the motion? [0:45:47, 0:45:52]: There is no second, so I would assume that the motion fails. [0:45:52, 0:45:53]: Madam Mayor. [0:45:54, 0:46:05]: I m would like to make a motion to approve the variance for the the ground sign but not the sign the third sign on the building. Okay, but that motion he just made failed. [0:46:05, 0:46:06]: Without a second. [0:46:07, 0:46:08]: Okay. Has everybody got that? [0:46:09, 0:46:13]: Okay. Uh any discussion on that first motion? [0:46:15, 0:46:17]: Okay. Is there another motion? [0:46:19, 0:46:19]: Madam Mayor. [0:46:20, 0:46:33]: I I would like to move that we approve the variance for the ground signs but not the third wall sign on the west side towards the um subdivision of Parkside. [0:46:34, 0:46:36]: Do I hear a second to that motion? [0:46:41, 0:46:44]: No second to the motion. [0:46:48, 0:46:52]: Mr Attorney, any comments anybody over there want to make? No ma'am. Okay. [0:46:53, 0:46:55]: All right, no. [0:46:56, 0:47:00]: Okay. That appears that that motion has failed. [0:47:02, 0:47:04]: Any discussion? [0:47:06, 0:47:07]: Yes, ma'am. [0:47:08, 0:47:09]: Yeah. [0:47:09, 0:47:10]: Hold on just a minute. [0:47:13, 0:47:23]: All in favor? Okay. All right, everybody. We have a motion. Do we have a second? [0:47:24, 0:47:27]: I asked for a second but it I didn't get one. [0:47:28, 0:47:35]: No, it failed. There a second to that motion made by Councilwoman Gantt. Okay, I feel I'll second that. [0:47:36, 0:47:38]: Okay. Is there any discussion? [0:47:42, 0:47:44]: No discussion? Yeah, one second. [0:47:45, 0:47:55]: Yeah, I just got if if we um obviously if this doesn't pass and obviously this variance goes away and Waffle House is just back to what position here? [0:47:56, 0:48:16]: Well, there's nothing restricting them to building the site. It would restrict them to two wall signs and a ground sign not to exceed the twenty the other variation that you saw on there twenty square foot. So the wall sign and the sign the wall signs on the building and the sign that goes in front of the uh front of the building would be within the normal order. [0:48:16, 0:48:25]: ordinance or requirement, not the exceptional reverence that they the larger site that they want. That's correct, it'd be the smaller sign that we showed earlier, the twenty square foot sign. Okay, thank you. [0:48:27, 0:48:30]: Okay, we have a motion and a second. [0:48:32, 0:48:33]: Or the [0:48:33, 0:48:36]: You want to restate that motion again, Councilwoman? [0:48:37, 0:48:48]: Um yes, I move that we approve the ground sign, however we would not approve the wall sign on the west side of the um [0:48:48, 0:48:49]: Um building. [0:48:50, 0:48:50]: Okay. [0:48:51, 0:49:00]: Yeah, every basin the park side subdivision. So that motion would be they'd be limited to two ground signs or two two wall signs. [0:49:00, 0:49:05]: But this motion would be their ground sign that they're asking for, the fifty square foot [0:49:05, 0:49:07]: would be allowed in this case. [0:49:07, 0:49:08]: Those two separate scenarios. [0:49:10, 0:49:19]: For the ground sign and the two w two signs instead of three. That's correct. That sounds like what your motion is. Yes, that's correct. Okay. Does everybody understand the motion? [0:49:23, 0:49:26]: We've had discussion. All in favor of the motion. [0:49:31, 0:49:32]: All opposed? [0:49:38, 0:49:46]: Okay. We are in um still in our that unfortunately that motion has failed. [0:49:48, 0:49:50]: Nothing we can do at this point. [0:49:51, 0:49:51]: Um [0:49:52, 0:49:54]: We're still in public hearing. [0:49:57, 0:50:01]: And we have an annexation request being presented by Michael Harris. [0:50:04, 0:50:06]: Okay, thank you again. This is [0:50:07, 0:50:09]: Again, item that was discussed during [0:50:11, 0:50:12]: Get back to those. [0:50:12, 0:50:15]: uh during the work session recently [0:50:16, 0:50:17]: In which [0:50:17, 0:50:19]: And pull it up here. [0:50:19, 0:50:22]: This is property that is currently [0:50:22, 0:50:24]: Um owned by the city. [0:50:24, 0:50:31]: And the area designated in red outline is the Reeves Creek Trailhead off of Flippin' Road. [0:50:32, 0:50:35]: Um the city acquired this property some three years ago. [0:50:35, 0:50:44]: um four years ago actually for the purpose of building a trailhead which w which is part of the construction of the trail leading from Flippin Road to Memorial Park. [0:50:45, 0:51:05]: Um while the property is in fact owned by the city, as you can tell by the area shown in the light the lighter color, it is not currently physically within the city Stockbridge boundaries. Um for that an annexation needs to take place. So what the city did was we notified the county [0:51:05, 0:51:06]: County. [0:51:07, 0:51:15]: Um back in early part of January for the thirty day um notification requirement. Um that requirement has now been met. [0:51:16, 0:51:20]: and there was no opposition um voiced by the county. [0:51:21, 0:51:24]: Pro pro the item was also heard by the zone advisory board. [0:51:25, 0:51:38]: last month as well and they unanimously approved. Again, this is principally just a clean up item, just to bring our part within our boundaries. So that's the item that's being considered for you for the council's consideration this evening. [0:51:38, 0:51:40]: Yeah, do you have any questions? [0:51:41, 0:51:44]: Okay, does anyone have questions of the city manager at this point? [0:51:47, 0:51:53]: Yeah. [0:51:53, 0:52:07]: Yes. Uh public hearing. Um if nobody up here has comment, then we'll go into the public hearing portion. Anyone in the room want to come up and speak in favor? [0:52:07, 0:52:12]: of this annexation. Anyone in the room want to speak in favour? [0:52:15, 0:52:18]: Is there anyone in the room that would like to s oppose this [0:52:19, 0:52:20]: Motion. [0:52:23, 0:52:24]: Okay. [0:52:25, 0:52:27]: If that's the um no one is [0:52:28, 0:52:29]: Wants to come for either [0:52:30, 0:52:33]: Um for or against is there a motion? [0:52:34, 0:52:41]: Yes. Don't need a motion. Beg your pardon? Just need to close the hearing. Okay, at this point we'll close the hearing on that matter. [0:52:41, 0:52:46]: The next item is to update the city's official zoning map. [0:52:46, 0:52:51]: Mayor. No, we still we closed the public hearing but we still gotta have a motion to approve that says it. Okay. [0:52:53, 0:52:55]: Yes, I would like to make a motion to approve [0:52:55, 0:53:04]: Annexation request AX seventeen fifty one bringing this partial our trailhead into the city of Stockbridge. [0:53:05, 0:53:07]: Okay, any discussion? [0:53:10, 0:53:12]: Okay, if no discussion, all in favor? [0:53:14, 0:53:24]: Okay, thank you so much. Next item on the um public hearing is to update the city's officials zoning map that will be presented by [0:53:24, 0:53:27]: our city manager Michael Harris. [0:53:27, 0:53:37]: Yes, thank you again. Um once again this is something we're gonna be getting into the habit of doing on an annual basis. Um this is updating and adopting our official zoning map. [0:53:37, 0:53:38]: Um [0:53:38, 0:53:58]: We hadn't done this in a couple of years, so we wanted to make sure we're going through the exercise now on an annual basis to go back through to pick up any rezonings that may have occurred throughout the course of the year. Throughout the course of the year we'll always keep a running um an active working map which will show an up to date version of all any rezonings that take place throughout the course of the year and then [0:53:58, 0:54:09]: every year beginning of the year we'll go back through the process of um formally adopting a new map to reflect any and all change that may have occurred throughout that um previous year. The principal [0:54:10, 0:54:26]: Um area of note this year is the addition of a new zoning district which is shown it's difficult to see but my mouse up here is kinda showing it it just follows the railroad line for those areas where the railroad um touches city boundaries. [0:54:27, 0:54:47]: And we added a zoning classification of X1, and this is solely for the purpose of um establishing a zoning classification for that railroad right away area, which would give us the opportunity to put provisions in place. Um this is really a a issue that uh uh came up a couple years ago in which um some development [0:54:47, 0:54:59]: took place within the raw railroad right away because the area was not zoned, so we're assigning the zoning um designation to it so we can put some prohibitions on what can and cannot be allowed within those right away areas per our code. So [0:54:59, 0:55:05]: Um something our attorney um worked on a great deal. Uh Justin Kilgore did a great job putting the map together. [0:55:05, 0:55:11]: Um so again, this will be an annual practice that we'll be engaging in and bring it back to the council. [0:55:11, 0:55:13]: Every year at the beginning at the beginning of the year. [0:55:14, 0:55:22]: Right. Is there any discussion on the dais about this item number nine of uh to update the city zoning map? [0:55:23, 0:55:25]: [3325.7, 3326.4]: Okay. [0:55:26, 0:55:35]: Mr City Manager, uh in terms of what we just went through and just w what we just voted on in terms of the property on Eagles Landing Parkway. [0:55:35, 0:55:44]: i i will there be some effort in this uh or in the future to um identify these parcels as we do this process here? [0:55:45, 0:56:02]: uh by identify what what do you mean? Like in this case in that case, that property had been previously zoned um commercial. It's been zoned commercial for a number the majority of the property along that corridor is zone commercial and they just identified a a a piece where they felt that [0:56:02, 0:56:05]: Um again it met the zoning requirements for them to be able to build in that area. [0:56:06, 0:56:26]: Right. What I'm saying is as we look at the map and we see things like this that could potentially be issues and I know that's a hard process, but um it it can some effort be put forward so we can kinda inform the neighbors this is what's the possibility, you know, what their recourse is? Yeah, I I think so and and certainly, you know, just [0:56:26, 0:56:31]: letting everyone know. This will be posted on our website and letting people know'cause it's tough to [0:56:31, 0:56:51]: We're a city of thirteen point three square miles. So to identify i every every little caveat that may that may have an impact uh in the individual would be difficult. But certainly to encourage ri residents to go through, look at the zoning maps if they have questions, bring them back to our attention or as council certainly drives throughout the throughout the city boundaries, uh areas that be uh that are identified. [0:56:51, 0:57:11]: identified as we do on a regular basis, as areas come up there have been areas in the past where we have done city initiated rezonings where areas we th felt were appropriate, but you know, typically as those issues come up, difficult to recognize what someone may deem as a potential um uh source spot or an area that they may have some concern with. So [0:57:11, 0:57:15]: Um continue to I think you know part of the big push is continue to [0:57:15, 0:57:30]: um encourage our citizens to go on website, ask questions, review, look at the zoning map and look at their area in and question and find out, hey, what does red mean? It's right adjacent to my property. What can what can possibly be built there? We can be able to provide them with that information. [0:57:31, 0:57:31]: Yeah. [0:57:32, 0:57:52]: At this time are there other questions or comments? Yes, ma'am, um, is it possible since we're having community meetings, um, that this can be brought forth as an item if something is coming up that that way we can put it out there because we do have the flyers inviting everyone to come to the newly stated community. [0:57:52, 0:57:56]: community meetings is that something we can you can be presented at that time? [0:57:57, 0:58:13]: 'Cause I know we're saying the um web page again, a lot of our seniors are not on that, but by having these meetings in the different areas I think that would be able to help us out. But we just gotta be prepared to present that to them. [0:58:13, 0:58:33]: For community meetings, if council members are meeting outside of outside of City Hall here, we can put something put the map on a board if they want to you know take it with them and be able to have it on display. So it allow people to have a take a look at it and see, hey, I live here, it's blue or it's red. What does that mean? There's a legend that kind of dictates and from there if they have a c question or concern they can [0:58:33, 0:58:36]: We can answer any questions they may have. But [0:58:36, 0:58:38]: Certainly, we can certainly make that available for any council member. [0:58:39, 0:58:41]: Excellent. Okay. Any other comments? [0:58:42, 0:58:46]: Are there those in the audience that would like to speak to this matter? [0:58:47, 0:58:48]: If so. [0:58:49, 0:58:51]: Identify yourself. You can come to the [0:58:53, 0:58:54]: Microphone? [0:58:55, 0:59:00]: We have no one that appears to want to speak on this matter, so at this time, um [0:59:03, 0:59:07]: I would need a motion for [0:59:07, 0:59:18]: Need to close the public hearing and then take a motion. Take it up. Okay. At this point we'll close the public hearing on this one item and then we'll um have a entertain a motion. [0:59:19, 0:59:20]: Mayor, Madam Mayor. [0:59:21, 0:59:21]: Um [0:59:22, 0:59:25]: I would like to make a motion to update [0:59:25, 0:59:28]: To approve the updating of the city official zoning map. [0:59:30, 0:59:35]: All right, we have a motion by Councilwoman Gantt and a second by [0:59:35, 0:59:36]: Oh Councilman Blount. [0:59:38, 0:59:40]: I hear any discussion at this point. [0:59:41, 0:59:42]: No discussion. All in favor? [0:59:44, 0:59:46]: Okay, thank you very much. [0:59:48, 0:59:55]: We have one other public hearing matter to address and that will be a request for amendment of the city's zoning code. [0:59:55, 0:59:59]: And that will be presented by our attorney Michael Williams. [0:59:59, 1:00:10]: Good evening, Madam Mayor and the City Council. Uh as you will recall from our last uh work session, uh this matter involves uh an update to the uh commercial [1:00:10, 1:00:15]: uh zoning code which would require enhanced brick facade for [1:00:16, 1:00:22]: commercial buildings. Um as I indicated at the work session, the zoning advisory board would like to have additional time [1:00:23, 1:00:25]: to review this matter and bring forward uh [1:00:26, 1:00:27]: a recommendation. [1:00:28, 1:00:36]: Um so at this time I would recommend that you open the public hearing to receive comment and then recess the public hearing. [1:00:36, 1:00:52]: uh until the next uh regular meeting of council to allow the zoning advisory board to meet again and bring back a recommendation. We anticipate that that recommendation would come prior to your work session so you would have a chance to review it um t at least two more times. [1:00:52, 1:00:58]: Okay, you've heard the request of our city attorney that we um [1:00:59, 1:01:14]: push this forward for discussion. So we'll close the public hearing at this point. We need we need to open the public hearing and then recess it till the next Okay. We're opening and recessing. Do I hear a motion to do that? Yes. Don't have to do that. [1:01:15, 1:01:25]: That now if there are people here who would like to speak, it would be appropriate to hear them, but then we'd have another opportunity. [1:01:26, 1:01:28]: move this to our next meeting. [1:01:31, 1:01:33]: L one? Okay. [1:01:33, 1:01:34]: So then [1:01:35, 1:01:38]: No, come forward please and identify yourself. [1:01:45, 1:01:53]: I just want to ask a question. Um Greg Horton, I live at one two one Duval Drive. Um, what will the update do in regard to the brick facade? [1:01:56, 1:02:02]: Currently our ordinance uh for commercial and industrial buildings require [1:02:02, 1:02:03]: that sets forward limited [1:02:04, 1:02:08]: types of materials that you're allowed to use for the facade and for the sides. [1:02:09, 1:02:13]: And they're, you know, brick, party plank, things of that sort. [1:02:13, 1:02:18]: What the proposed ordinance would do would be that for the facade it would have an at least [1:02:19, 1:02:22]: uh have fifty percent brick on the facade. [1:02:23, 1:02:30]: Um the proposal that was before the council last week also had a requirement for brick on on at least three sides. [1:02:30, 1:02:37]: But those um have been requested by the zoning advisory board for additional time to review those. So [1:02:37, 1:02:38]: Um [1:02:39, 1:02:45]: my recommendation to you is if you want to follow this would be to go to the next zoning advisory board meeting. [1:02:45, 1:02:47]: And they'll discuss it in further detail and [1:02:47, 1:02:49]: We'll find out what their recommendation is. [1:02:51, 1:02:54]: Okay. Any other comments? Yes. [1:02:56, 1:03:16]: Elseman Alexander. I believe Mr. Horton owns uh the business downtown, is that correct? Uh uh potential business. Um is that your business downtown, Barn Beautiful? There is all that's already a requirement uh in downtown as far as I understand. So there's already uh pre-existing brick puss uh requirement there. [1:03:15, 1:03:16]: Yeah. [1:03:16, 1:03:20]: Yes, yes, sir. In fact what was presented to the council [1:03:20, 1:03:25]: was the adoption of what's currently on the downtown overlay [1:03:25, 1:03:26]: to the entire city. [1:03:27, 1:03:28]: Um so [1:03:29, 1:03:34]: i if you already have a a building under that overlay you're already subject to that but [1:03:34, 1:03:39]: whether or not those are appropriate for the entire city. And I think the zoning advisory board wanted to review that. [1:03:39, 1:03:40]: Further. [1:03:42, 1:04:01]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. I appreciate it. I was just wondering since this uh is it possible or is it appropriate to have this on the website so people can see this and they can be they can view it and then it might help them with any questions whether they have one way or the other. But uh I mean is that appropriate that'd probably be good to at least uh alert people then and so they can view it. [1:04:02, 1:04:04]: Yes, sir. Okay. Okay. Thank you. [1:04:05, 1:04:05]: Okay. [1:04:07, 1:04:11]: What are we adding to the book? Any other comments about this matter? [1:04:14, 1:04:21]: And we will move back to our regular meeting at this point. Okay. Close the public hearing. [1:04:21, 1:04:28]: Mayor Neal, I just wanted to state that that next meeting and we have already advertised it to be the March [1:04:29, 1:04:35]: Thirteenth meeting. Okay. Everyone in the audience you hear that. It will come up again on March thirteenth. [1:04:36, 1:04:40]: At this point we will move on to our new business. [1:04:40, 1:04:41]: At this time. [1:04:42, 1:05:02]: And the first order of business is for uh consideration to approve the twenty seventeen voting schedule for the city and that will be presented by our um city clerk, Vanessa Holliday. And in case those in the audience don't know, there will be a city election and she will our clerk will explain. [1:05:02, 1:05:04]: Explain that to you. That will be in November. [1:05:04, 1:05:12]: That's correct. We will have a municipal election in twenty seventeen for two council seats and the mayoral seat. [1:05:13, 1:05:33]: And we had at our last work session meeting there were seven um proposed schedules for the twenty seventeen uh voting calendar. I took back to um the Henry County elections office uh and made a request for proposal [1:05:33, 1:05:40]: to include Sunday in those um schedules. [1:05:40, 1:05:42]: We went back in option one. [1:05:43, 1:05:45]: has added a Sunday [1:05:45, 1:06:00]: voting from one PM to five PM with two Saturdays and with voting hours from on Saturday from eight AM to two PM and with one week of early voting at the Merrill Manders Conference Center from seven A.M. to seven PM [1:06:01, 1:06:04]: The other two weeks would be at the Henry County elections office. [1:06:04, 1:06:23]: and the runoff being held at the Merrill Manders Conference Center from seven a.m. to seven PM. The adjustment to the Saturday Sunday hours were offset by each other because we changed the Saturday hours and so the cost is uh remains estimated at twenty three thousand five hundred. [1:06:24, 1:06:40]: Option one A has added a Sunday voting from one PM to five PM with two Saturdays and with voting hours on Saturday from eight AM to two PM with one week of early voting at the Merrill Mandis Conference Center from seven AM to seven PM. [1:06:40, 1:06:57]: With the runoff being held at the Henry County elections office from seven AM to seven PM. The adjustment to the Saturday Sunday hours again offset the estimated change cost rema uh is zero and remains at nineteen thousand dollars. [1:06:58, 1:07:00]: Option number two. [1:07:00, 1:07:03]: has added Sunday voting from one PM [1:07:04, 1:07:06]: To five PM. [1:07:06, 1:07:07]: And one Saturday [1:07:08, 1:07:16]: And with voting hours on Saturday from eight A.M. to two PM, with one week of early voting at the Merrill Mandis Conference Center from seven AM to seven PM. [1:07:17, 1:07:31]: and the runoff being held at the Merrill Manders Conference Center from seven A.M. to seven PM. The adjustment to the Saturday Sunday hours increased by two hundred dollars and that new estimated cost is twenty one thousand seven hundred dollars. [1:07:32, 1:07:33]: Option two A. [1:07:34, 1:07:42]: has added a Sunday from one PM to five PM with one Saturday and with voting hours on Saturday from eight A. M. to two PM. [1:07:42, 1:07:47]: With one week of early voting at the Merrill Manders Conference Center from seven AM to seven PM [1:07:48, 1:07:53]: And the runoff being held at the Henry County elections office from seven A. M. to seven PM. [1:07:53, 1:08:01]: The adjusted cost for Saturday Sunday increased by two hundred dollars with a new estimated cost of seventeen thousand two hundred dollars. [1:08:04, 1:08:06]: Weekend voting on numbers. [1:08:07, 1:08:19]: that I received were a combination of voting at the Henry County Elections Office and Merrill Mandis Conference Center. The system was unable to break out what was the Merrill Mandis Conference Center and what was the Henry County Elections Office. [1:08:20, 1:08:36]: In twenty fourteen, countywide in general election for governor, there were one thousand two hundred and eighty nine weekend votes cast. There were no Sunday there was no Sunday voting in twenty fourteen. No Stockbridge el municipal election uh was held in twenty fourteen. [1:08:36, 1:08:43]: In twenty fifteen there was a municipal election, fifty six weekend votes cast, there was no Sunday voting. [1:08:43, 1:08:57]: In twenty sixteen municipal special election, county election and general election, there were three thousand nine hundred and three votes cast on Saturday and one thousand five hundred and twenty nine votes cast on Sunday. [1:09:01, 1:09:05]: There I'd be happy to an any questions that I can answer for you at this time. [1:09:09, 1:09:11]: Are there any um [1:09:12, 1:09:25]: comments about this. Uh I would like to ask the finance person uh in the room, Linda Neighbors, how much money was budgeted in our budget this year for this election? [1:09:27, 1:09:35]: Sixteen thousand. Okay, so if we were to go over that we have to identify some way to pay for that. [1:09:35, 1:09:36]: Is that correct? [1:09:37, 1:09:40]: have to come out of some other part of the budget. [1:09:40, 1:09:41]: All right. [1:09:42, 1:09:54]: All right. Any any comments before we have questions. Okay. Mm Mayor, if I may. Um when do we have to when is the debt absolute deadline to have to give you the of this [1:09:54, 1:10:14]: Well there's there is no app well the conference center events team is the one that needs to know because they would need to block off those dates in the event anyone wanted to rent the facility. Um so that's why we were trying to go ahead and get this knocked out so we know they know and when people call and make reservations they know that the dates are or are not available. [1:10:14, 1:10:15]: Okay. [1:10:15, 1:10:20]: Well, what it looks like to me is that we're gonna have to amend the budget regardless for this particular [1:10:21, 1:10:26]: item and I say that d to determine I understand what [1:10:26, 1:10:33]: They're gonna have to block it off a m mu from what I'm thinking, and this is just m me [1:10:35, 1:10:55]: I would be for us making sure that the runoff is held here at the Merrill Manders Conference Center. To me, it makes sense that it's local since it's a local election and it's in the the citizens are here. And so I do know that the I'm leaning more towards it being held at Merrill Manders Conference Center, period. [1:10:55, 1:11:12]: period. So the other two options for me are out in regards to that. But I think we are a little bit premature until we can I from my understanding we are gonna eventually amend our budget. We're waiting on a couple of things but we should be doing that soon hopefully. [1:11:12, 1:11:13]: So um um [1:11:14, 1:11:16]: Um maybe we could give them a heads up. [1:11:16, 1:11:19]: If everybody agrees to ha at least agree [1:11:19, 1:11:21]: that it will be held at Merrill Manders. [1:11:22, 1:11:25]: That would eliminate um one A. [1:11:28, 1:11:33]: It's option one and option two. And one A and two are eliminated. [1:11:35, 1:11:36]: Two A. [1:11:36, 1:11:37]: In two way. [1:11:39, 1:11:46]: So you're saying it would eliminate one A and two A. Is that correct? Is that what I heard you say? One A, two and two A. [1:11:46, 1:11:46]: Yeah. [1:11:46, 1:11:49]: No, one A and two A. Two has um [1:11:50, 1:11:52]: Is the Henry County Election Office for the um [1:11:54, 1:11:54]: Right now. [1:11:55, 1:11:58]: But I didn't consider that one because you all wanted to add a [1:11:59, 1:12:00]: Sunday. [1:12:00, 1:12:01]: So really. [1:12:02, 1:12:03]: Mayor Protein. I mean Mayor. [1:12:05, 1:12:05]: Yes. [1:12:06, 1:12:26]: I'm looking here, it says option one and two. Basically, um the only difference is is the Saturdays. Option one gives you two Saturdays and option two gives you one Saturday. So we've already um stated that at Merrill Manders, so those are the really the only two options, correct? That it's gonna be [1:12:26, 1:12:29]: [4350.1, 4362.8]: We will be eliminating one A because that's the um runoff elections at the Henry County elections office and you will be eliminating two A, which that's also has runoff at the Henry County Elections Office. Right. [1:12:43, 1:12:43]: Okay. [1:12:43, 1:13:00]: Question for Tim Ford. Actually what it is is that I'm I think option one is the best uh best option. It gives you two Saturdays that one Sunday and if there's a runoff it's locally in rural manners. So at this point, Mayor, if you don't mind, I'd like to make a motion that we adopt option one. I second. [1:13:01, 1:13:06]: Have a motion and a second discussion. Any discussion? Yes. [1:13:06, 1:13:08]: All right. Councilman Blount. [1:13:08, 1:13:13]: My c concern on here is that when we have these voting on the off [1:13:14, 1:13:26]: When they have the general election years versus special elec well, not special uh our city election uh terms, because you went from th over thirty nine hundred votes on the Saturdays. [1:13:27, 1:13:30]: to in twenty fifteen, even when I ran [1:13:31, 1:13:34]: You got fifty six votes that was voted on on the Saturday. [1:13:35, 1:13:39]: So we don't have anything showing that opening up on a Saturday and Sunday. [1:13:40, 1:13:41]: gonna increase the votes. [1:13:42, 1:13:43]: Or do we? [1:13:43, 1:13:44]: We do not. [1:13:45, 1:13:45]: [4426.0, 4438.0]: And there is a seven thousand five hundred dollar difference in the amount of money between what we have budgeted and what it would take for option number one, just so the public will know that. [1:13:58, 1:14:00]: Okay. Uh councilman. [1:14:01, 1:14:02]: This is a [1:14:02, 1:14:16]: central t to what we do uh as Americans. And I wanna do everything that I possibly can not to disenfranchise voters and to give voters every opportunity to vote. So I'm in favor. [1:14:17, 1:14:28]: Madam Mayor, if I may. Councilman Gantt. I'm all for either option one or two. That that doesn't matter to me. Um more so than [1:14:29, 1:14:49]: us voting today so long as they the we're doing it because you're saying that the people over in Merrmanders, our staff, needs to block off certain time period. I think we have a consensus that we all agree that we want the voting to take place at Merrmanders so it should be blocked off. [1:14:49, 1:14:53]: I think it would be premature for us to vote right now. We haven't amended our budget. [1:14:54, 1:14:55]: Um [1:14:55, 1:15:05]: I would ask that we hold off on we know that we're gonna pick one of those and we know it's gonna take place. I think we should hold off until we amend our budget. [1:15:07, 1:15:23]: Uh yes, part temperature. Appreciate it. This will be uh to the point. Uh agree with the fact that uh there's a motion has been seconded. The fact that if we if we approve tonight, the amendment can actually go through the next time we get together and vote on it. It's it's no adjustment. We can make an amendment at any time to do this. It's not gonna happen until [1:15:24, 1:15:38]: Uh what August November, excuse me. It happens in late October, I'm sorry, right? When when we o the elections of early voting starts in October. So I mean do it now and get it done. That's the way it's well there is a motion on the floor that's been seconded. But anyway. Uh [1:15:38, 1:15:46]: Okay, there's a motion on the floor for option one. Um we have one more comment before we vote. [1:15:46, 1:15:49]: Let me let me clarify something if it wasn't clear. [1:15:50, 1:16:10]: I'll just ask for stats. I'm not running for a reelection this year. So I I do yield to uh my two colleagues that will be running, uh will have those responsibilities and I do yield to the citizens to have the opportunity to vote and to get out as much as they can for the citizens that the representation [1:16:10, 1:16:21]: of their city is really uh the representation that they want and that they have the opportunity to do that. And so whatever's open for that, I'm not sitting here as a blocker, I'm sitting here to get understanding. [1:16:22, 1:16:32]: Okay, we have a motion on the floor to accept uh option number one, twenty three thousand five hundred dollars for uh voting at the Merlmander Center. [1:16:33, 1:16:38]: Have a second? We have a second. All right. All in favor? [1:16:40, 1:16:42]: Okay? [1:16:44, 1:16:49]: Okay? Um so be it. Thank you. [1:16:56, 1:17:01]: Okay, the next thing on our agenda will be um [1:17:01, 1:17:09]: to approve the use of the Merrill Manders Conference Centre for a nonprofit mixer and that will be presented by Councilwoman Gantt. [1:17:10, 1:17:30]: Um yes, very briefly. Um I've done this for two years now. It is a nonprofit mixer for all um nonprofits and uh to include church organizations as well as any organizations in our area. Um we target mainly Stockbridge in Henry County. It gives us nice [1:17:30, 1:17:50]: opportunity to mix and mingle. There have been relationships that have developed since then. Last year we had a grant a couple of grant writers to come in to talk to those nonprofits about how to get certain grants and what to look for and what red flags and what to what questions to ask. And this time we [1:17:50, 1:18:05]: We would of course ask the same thing um for the use of the Merrill Manders Conference Center to have that mix and mingle. Um we have refreshments, we'll include a little bit uh a different twist of it this year and also include the public. [1:18:06, 1:18:07]: Yeah, near. [1:18:07, 1:18:16]: Yes. Councilman Boyne. I move that we approve the uh use of the borough managed conference center for the nonprofit mixer to be held on April nineteenth, twenty seventeen. [1:18:17, 1:18:18]: I second. [1:18:19, 1:18:27]: Okay, we have a a motion by Councilman Blount and a second by Councilman Gantt. Do we have a uh any discussion at this point? [1:18:31, 1:18:34]: Could I just ask a question? How many people normally attend this? [1:18:35, 1:18:46]: Um last year I think the attendance was lower than the first year's attendance. And I can't re Vanessa, do you remember how many we had the years before? [1:18:50, 1:18:51]: So maybe half that. [1:18:52, 1:18:54]: Yeah. Okay, thank you. [1:18:55, 1:18:56]: Mayor Neal. [1:18:56, 1:18:59]: All right, we have a motion in a second. Any other comments? [1:19:00, 1:19:10]: I just want to make a comment. Um it's normally held at the lower end of the Merrill Mander Center and it it's normally uh it's r it's a real nice event. Yeah, yeah. [1:19:10, 1:19:23]: Well no, we had it uh upstairs and downstairs. But the l last normally it's upstairs. Last time we have the entire building and this year we're just gonna do upstairs. We're not doing downstairs at all. Okay. We're just gonna convert over. [1:19:24, 1:19:25]: Right, thank you. [1:19:26, 1:19:32]: We have a motion and we have a second and we've identified that this is going to be upstairs only, Mermander Center. [1:19:32, 1:19:37]: And um at this time no further discussion. All in favor? [1:19:39, 1:19:43]: Opposed. Don't think so. Thank you so much. We'll move on to [1:19:43, 1:19:45]: Item number thirteen. [1:19:45, 1:19:55]: Um Councilman Alexander would like to talk to us about the propo uh proposed budget amendment for fiber optic connection. [1:19:55, 1:20:00]: And I'm assuming he has a presentation about fiber optic, if you would, please. [1:20:02, 1:20:05]: Uh yes, ladies and gentlemen. I think that um [1:20:06, 1:20:12]: We're trying to be a progressive city to compete at the very highest level. [1:20:12, 1:20:19]: uh in Metro Atlanta. We adopted a vision statement that says that we wanted to be the best [1:20:19, 1:20:20]: In Metro Atlanta. [1:20:21, 1:20:25]: Uh right now it's g uh is a is a time [1:20:25, 1:20:28]: Where some cities are gonna move ahead. [1:20:29, 1:20:31]: And some cities are gonna be left behind. [1:20:32, 1:20:36]: The cities that invest in infrastructure and technology [1:20:36, 1:20:38]: Those cities are gonna move ahead. [1:20:38, 1:20:40]: Into the new economy. [1:20:40, 1:20:45]: Those cities that do not and drag their feet are going to be left behind. [1:20:46, 1:21:03]: You know, we've been working and talking with different industries. We were at the uh Henry Chamber uh the other night at the banquet and there was a discussion about incubator coming uh to Henry County and developing and pursuing professional and technology jobs here. [1:21:04, 1:21:24]: In order for the city of Startbridge to be prepared at its very best, we need to have fiber optic connectivity to all city buildings. We had it uh in the budget uh last year for twenty sixteen uh enable us to do so to be able to provide uh the very best [1:21:24, 1:21:39]: to business and industry and our city facilities in terms of let's say uh we're using Merrill Manders Conference Center and believe it, we're competing. Meryl Manders is not making money uh at this t at this time. [1:21:40, 1:22:00]: But at the same time we have fiber optic connectivity to it and we could deli do z deliver higher internet speeds, p potentially gigabit speeds to uh the business community. Instead of choosing the moral center, they might choose Merrill Manders. Instead of choosing [1:22:00, 1:22:03]: center in Hateville, they might choose the city of Stockbridge. [1:22:04, 1:22:06]: It is a win win for all of us. [1:22:06, 1:22:13]: Our students, uh, you know, at the library, at city facilities, all around us. They're there. [1:22:14, 1:22:26]: We had a uh what we have a a very good proposal last year, uh in terms of investing those facilities. The school board has actually uh been uh leading the way. [1:22:26, 1:22:37]: uh connecting every school uh in our community to uh high to fiber optics and high speed broadband with AT and T. [1:22:38, 1:22:44]: The city has not moved forward with that effort. We have identified funding. [1:22:44, 1:22:58]: coming with um you know potential sales of uh city assets and properties that could be very well put toward this. The city currently now has uh at our last um [1:22:58, 1:23:12]: uh audit we had uh nearly eight point seven million dollars in reserves. Uh my proposal were to have us advance the three hundred and fifty thousand dollar investment to um [1:23:12, 1:23:24]: Go ahead and move forward with fiber optic connectivity for all city facilities, including City Hall, meeting spaces, all of our facilities. [1:23:24, 1:23:25]: We could do that. [1:23:25, 1:23:36]: Once uh we were in a position where we moved forward with uh liquidating some of these assets that have been on the count that are on the city books through um [1:23:36, 1:23:56]: DDA acquisitions in the past and what have you, those funds will be available for us to use uh to replenish those assets. Again, it is very important to realize where the city of Stockbridge is. The Georgian Municipal Association recommends that we have twenty five percent in reserve funds [1:23:56, 1:23:59]: reserved for a rainy day for the city. [1:23:59, 1:24:16]: The county has a twenty five percent threshold that they maintain and they've been making aggressive investments in terms of improving uh infrastructure in the city and new development. That's how they're funding a lot of their new projects. If [1:24:16, 1:24:20]: we move ahead. Our fund balance right now [1:24:20, 1:24:24]: is nearly one full year at eighty seven percent. [1:24:24, 1:24:30]: The recommendation by the training agency says that we should be at twenty five percent. [1:24:30, 1:24:42]: Should we use the t three hundred and fifty thousand dollars to move ahead when investing in technology uh for our children and to improve um our competitiveness [1:24:42, 1:24:52]: That will simply take us down to probably about an eighty percent reserve or somewhere in a eighty to seventy five percent reserve. Not very much change at all. [1:24:53, 1:25:05]: But look at the upside in terms of competition. We already know that we have uh Google Fiverr uh being uh completed and Hateville and cities like as such. [1:25:05, 1:25:07]: If we want to compete [1:25:07, 1:25:09]: At the highest level. [1:25:09, 1:25:16]: We've got to start preparing ourselves and and for the technological world to come and this helps us get underway. [1:25:17, 1:25:34]: Um I would like to see maybe if the city manager might be able to say a few words maybe about the proposal that we had uh as we talked about it last year. That was one of the uh recommendations that we uh we originally had and but uh we chose not to take it out of reserve. [1:25:36, 1:25:56]: Yeah, the uh our IT consultant, Liberty Technology, did a presentation to the council um detailing what it would entail. Um now this considers uh kind of you know us running the line and and having ownership of the line. Um there are other options that certainly do exist out there, some that we [1:25:56, 1:26:16]: we have uh previously explored. Um there have been some questions that have been posed to me recently about um what the difference in in cost would be from going with the uh Comcash ATT chart any one of the other or Google or any one of the other ones um and what that would mean, what that would look like. This was the option that [1:26:16, 1:26:36]: we discuss I discussed with the um consultant probably a year, year plus ago on that they came back with as far as what they recommended recommended for and what they felt was the best option for the city at that point. But certainly in fact I was looking through I received an email today from GMA and they're actually hosting a webinar later next week [1:26:36, 1:26:56]: on what cities need to know about um on fiber connectivity. And it does give you a comparison of Google Fiber versus Comcast, ATT, Verizon, and the advantages and disadvantage of having your own line in in place as well. So that's some of the information I've been kind of asked to kind of look into and to have [1:26:56, 1:26:57]: [5217.4, 5221.3]: Um I again when we went through the budget this was certainly an item that was identified [1:27:01, 1:27:21]: by council, I certainly staff recommends, you know, at at some point that we do need to move in this direction as well as moving forward with our disaster recovery efforts, which is a separate item altogether. So um the thought being that if if and when the council is ready to make this step, then we do all that at one time. Just a matter of at the council's discretion as far as when we need to [1:27:21, 1:27:22]: move forward with it. [1:27:23, 1:27:24]: Yeah. [1:27:24, 1:27:26]: Yes. Do you have a comment? Yes. Okay. [1:27:27, 1:27:33]: Um, I would like for that to go forward with whatever uh those uh other options that [1:27:33, 1:27:37]: or on the table. But one of the things we also want to make clear is that there was uh [1:27:38, 1:27:39]: They're also identifiable. [1:27:40, 1:27:49]: uh amendments that are that are going to happen with the budget and uh what what you bring us uh as far as the information for as the uh [1:27:50, 1:27:55]: fiber optic information along with some other items that had uh already uh been identified. [1:27:56, 1:28:15]: I would like for this council to go ahead with your information and formulate the other ideas that we had talked about moving ahead with to not continue to come back amend, amend, amend, but we do what we have to do to go ahead and move these uh um what we had already re previously talked about, just go ahead and move it at one point. [1:28:15, 1:28:20]: we talked about to go ahead and move it forward with uh sitting down with our treasurer to uh [1:28:21, 1:28:41]: uh show us where we're gonna be at with the budget, what's gonna come out of the budget, and that whatever we had already previously talked about as a council, knowing that we was gonna have to first of all balance our budget, but we knew we were gonna have to further uh do further uh uh pulling for fund balance to uh to um uh move forward on [1:28:41, 1:28:46]: some things that we hear about already talked about, so I'm willing to wait on you to uh have that discussion. [1:28:47, 1:28:48]: Other comments? [1:28:48, 1:28:54]: Yes, thank you, Mayor. Appreciate it. No, Mike, what I'm really thinking Mike and Council, what I'm really thinking about is that these um [1:28:55, 1:29:15]: You we need like feasibility study. We need to have uh several different options so we need to get the best bang for our dollar here and what and what makes what's the best item or uh product we can have. I understand that Liberty gave us some input but there may be something better with ATT or Comcast and uh we need to look at all that. It may not cost three hundred fifty thousand dollars, it may cost less. [1:29:14, 1:29:25]: uh less than that and may give us more advantages here or there. I think we need to have those type of things before you actually make the decision. Without a doubt I'm for this, just want to make sure we get the best product [1:29:25, 1:29:29]: currently and we have a some c something to compare it to in a sense. [1:29:29, 1:29:49]: That's what I that's what I would appreciate. Yeah, and and I will reach back out with um you know, Liberty did it was kind of uh time was was was somewhat condensed at the retreat um last year, but so they had them come back in and they'd be happy to walk through the process again and why their recommendation is what their recommendation is. Um and and and give you some of the pros and [1:29:49, 1:30:06]: and cons uh as far as that's that's what that's what they're there for to kind of help guide us in the process. And like I said, I think everyone's fully sub supportive of us moving forward with this initiative. Just want to make sure we have again the comments that I've been receiving is want to make sure we have all the information, all the pertinent information [1:30:06, 1:30:10]: um to move forward with it. I'd like to make a comment too about this. Um [1:30:11, 1:30:21]: I don't think there's anyone up on the s dias that is opposed to this idea. It's just a matter of making sure that we go forward at the right time. Um [1:30:21, 1:30:33]: uh one one of the things I recall from a Council for quality growth meeting um m eighteen months ago or something like that, the uh president of um AT and T Georgia [1:30:34, 1:30:54]: who happened to be a graduate of Stockbridge High School. She's moved up the chain further up in AT and T, but at that time she made the statement that the technology is changing so fast that even a company with as deep pockets as ATT it changes so quickly before they can uh make a plan. [1:30:54, 1:31:14]: plan it's something else better has come out. So uh I think what we might do if if everybody um wants to think along this line is to get all of the players in, let's listen to them as a group, find out what's out in the marketplace, what we can do and [1:31:14, 1:31:26]: And keeping in mind that we would have to make a budget amendment and we somewhat have agreed in um previous meetings most recently that we would get in our [1:31:26, 1:31:27]: City. [1:31:27, 1:31:43]: town hall meetings, quarterly financial updates. So if the funds are coming in faster or more than we had anticipated, we know what kind of budget amendments we can make without dipping into city reserve funds. [1:31:43, 1:32:03]: So I would like to encourage the council to, yes, let's look into this and if we're going to get serious with it, let's get everybody in the fiber optic business to bring us up to date and then listen to our quarterly financials and see if we can move it forward as quickly as possible. [1:32:04, 1:32:05]: Mayor. [1:32:05, 1:32:25]: Uh have a question? Thank you. I just want to hopefully we can have a time frame because we talked about this last year and then when we're saying we want to you know to get on it, hopefully th it'll be this year. That you know I just don't wanna to keep delaying, delaying when we've already [1:32:25, 1:32:31]: already did this at our retreat and said that we wanted to move forward. So that's what I wanna say. [1:32:31, 1:32:43]: Any other comments? Mr. City Man yes, Mr City Manager, can we have a date if we do,'cause it seems like there's a will of the council, a date specific. [1:32:43, 1:32:51]: for you to bring this back to the council so it's not punted and we we move forward with it in a in the way. [1:32:52, 1:32:56]: Hickville already has Google Fiber. So does College Park. [1:32:56, 1:32:58]: We're behind already. [1:32:59, 1:33:11]: We're we're a decade behind North Metro. We have no time to lose, zero. So what date and time can we address this? Have those options on the table to vote? [1:33:11, 1:33:12]: Again it [1:33:13, 1:33:30]: Some of that may be dependent upon the availability of the council. If the council wants a overview from different companies, then that would a lot of we can we can begin setting those up as early as this week or next week. Um I I would likely recommend bringing our IT consultant in first [1:33:30, 1:33:48]: um to sit down with council and give an overview from their perspective. I think that would be the the wisest thing to do and then from there look at bringing in the other the other players. Because the process will take I you know even what we're proposing, it's about an eight, nine month process going through engineering the project and design and things that everything that goes into it. [1:33:49, 1:33:49]: Um [1:33:50, 1:33:54]: So certainly getting started this year is is is I think is absolutely feasible. [1:33:54, 1:34:14]: Um but again if that's the council's desire to get more information on this topic and speak with again I would recommend first starting with our consultant and then moving out to other private sector um entities and we can certainly begin scheduling those meetings as soon as possible. We talk about April, we talk about March, when we can come back and [1:34:14, 1:34:21]: actually make a decision because what you just said is when we make the decision we're still looking at eight or nine more months. [1:34:22, 1:34:23]: A process. [1:34:24, 1:34:27]: Louis, tick, tick, tick, tick, time. [1:34:28, 1:34:48]: Right. You know, and again that would take us to the end of the first quarter as well. Um and you know, if decision can be made sooner than that at the council's discretion, that's certainly a possibility, but we can begin we again I believe we could probably set up a meeting, arrange our consultant to meet with the council members beginning this week. Um and then from there um [1:34:48, 1:35:00]: Um the next step would be if you want to meet with some of the other um potential carriers to see what options that they may be able to afford and then as soon as that's done we can bring it back and make a final form formal decision regarding the budget amendment. [1:35:01, 1:35:01]: Oh. [1:35:01, 1:35:21]: Thank you, Mayor. Appreciate it. So otherwise if I understand it right, we can get Liberty Tech maybe in the next week or two or prior to our our next working session, set on sit down with individual council members to talk about procedures and costs and concepts, I guess you'd say. So if we get a concept between now and the work session and then after have that discussion and maybe after the work session look at [1:35:21, 1:35:41]: uh a time frame to get other companies in to potentially uh present some things uh for us to to think about. Um which maybe it could happen in a month, six weeks, something like that, with the time frame to get several companies in. Because if we even even if we approved this three hundred and fifty thousand dollars a night, we couldn't do anything with it because we don't know exactly [1:35:41, 1:35:50]: how we're gonna utilize and structure. Our fiber office yes, but we have to still pick a uh organization, a company to to lay it down which we haven't had any conversation with. Is that correct? [1:35:51, 1:35:52]: That that that's correct. [1:35:52, 1:35:54]: And again I I do want to note [1:35:55, 1:35:56]: The [1:35:56, 1:36:16]: The first time we we never had money, we've been talking about it for a while, you're right, but the first time we had money set aside specifically for this purpose or identified was at the end of last year's budget. Okay. And while it was identified, it wasn't included in the budget. I think the consensus was certainly because we've done such a good job with austerity measures and financial [1:36:16, 1:36:35]: constraints and been able to build our coffers up that you know we've set ourselves in a good position to be able to utilize some of those um fund balance savings for a project just like this, which I think this sets up ideally for. Um but again I i it it's just a matter of yeah talking to them and then flushing out the details with some of the other carriers. [1:36:35, 1:36:38]: And seeing what they would have to offer and making sure we have an apples to apples comparison. [1:36:38, 1:36:40]: [5800.6, 5801.8]: One last question. [1:36:42, 1:37:00]: I guess I wanna ask the question, so if we've already had the discussion on several of these items, does that mean if we change, you know, did the budget restraint, does that mean that it's just put on hold? We're not still trying to get all the key players together to try to bring something back to us? I mean does it just die? [1:37:01, 1:37:05]: Does everything just die b if it if we took it out of the budget last year? [1:37:06, 1:37:12]: So just say like with this. We st we started last year and we stated this is something that we wanted to do. [1:37:13, 1:37:18]: So did it just die or you still were you still working with key players? [1:37:18, 1:37:24]: To say this is what we're you know, a possibility that's still for the city. [1:37:25, 1:37:39]: formally moved forward by the council. I mean the council could have done a budget amendment last year had that been the council's desire to get it started with it last year. It just hadn't moved to that point. You know, last year when we had the retreat, they did the presentation, we were sitting down with them and going through a [1:37:40, 1:38:00]: uh a phased approach of you know a lot of that when they first came in they just they've been on board for one year now our our consultant and when they initially came on they were initially tasked with here are some of the things we want to work on. Um disaster recovery being one of the the first ones. We took a number of steps in that area already to start that process so that is up and going. We had money budgeted [1:37:59, 1:38:19]: we're able to set some money aside for that far less of an expense. Um the phase two, the big portion, is about one hundred and fifty thousand estimated. So that has also that's currently not in the budget. We anticipate use utilizing fund balance for that as well. So they came back in the I believe it was a retreat in August and did the formal presentation of this is how we [1:38:19, 1:38:30]: envisioned this is our recommendation of the best steps, the best method of being able to move forward with it and identifying that was the first time we actually had some hard, fast numbers associated with an estimate. [1:38:31, 1:38:32]: Thank you. [1:38:32, 1:38:35]: Okay. Is there any more discussion? [1:38:36, 1:38:45]: All right, you wanna make a motion? I'd like to make a motion to table this and bring it back in exactly sixty days. [1:38:45, 1:38:57]: to give uh the city manager uh a chance to work this work through this process. But sixty days from today we want it back at the council so we can vote. [1:38:58, 1:38:59]: I'll second that. [1:38:59, 1:39:06]: Okay, we have a motion and a second to table this item until the due diligence work can be done by the city manager. [1:39:06, 1:39:15]: And to bring it back in sixty days or as close to sixty days as our meeting occurs. Is that okay to add to your worship? Okay. [1:39:15, 1:39:17]: All right. And uh do you [1:39:17, 1:39:20]: I've heard a motion and I've heard a second. [1:39:20, 1:39:21]: Is there discussion? [1:39:22, 1:39:25]: Yes, really quick. Okay. Um [1:39:25, 1:39:26]: Councilman Blight. [1:39:27, 1:39:31]: In in uh this in the proposal here for sixty days [1:39:32, 1:39:40]: Will we also be able to come together prior to that to identify other areas that we talked about? I d I don't want to c us uh men [1:39:41, 1:40:01]: uh stagment a man sta when we have already identified some areas. Will we be able to come together as a council d before that sixty days because I want us to go ahead and move forward with the areas we've already identified uh that we need to start to move on and work on. Uh even some of the projects that we've talked about [1:40:01, 1:40:02]: Um [1:40:02, 1:40:12]: that I don't even want to get into that. But I would like in that sixty days those items that we have already identified to also kinda kinda come to the table where we could um [1:40:12, 1:40:13]: kind of take a look at [1:40:14, 1:40:15]: If that's possible. [1:40:16, 1:40:25]: And and and and and and and in in all deference to the to the council, I I do wanna we just came back from a uh retreat and we have a number of priority projects. [1:40:25, 1:40:36]: Um we have two vacant critical vacant staff positions that we're in the process of trying to fill now. Obviously once those are filled they would carry a lot of the load for this. [1:40:37, 1:40:57]: So part of the challenge from my perspective is being able to prioritize how projects are getting done and which ones are of top priority from the council's perspective. Um so that's some of the input I need back from the council because in reality I mean we can do but so much I think that's that was one of the challenges we had quite frankly last year, trying to do so [1:40:57, 1:41:17]: So many things and not being able to get things accomplished because we had just had too many things on the plate. So being able to identify exactly what the key priorities are and again we talked about the scorecarding process, that's what that process is for. Um to be able to make sure we're staying accountable on what these what what what are the top priorities. [1:41:17, 1:41:37]: If everything becomes a priority and then trying to whittle down and and make sure we're advancing those projects in a timely manner, that becomes part of the challenge certainly. [1:41:37, 1:41:38]: May not be [1:41:38, 1:41:40]: Where your expertise may even be in. [1:41:41, 1:41:46]: uh in the positions that we're hiring in. So just be mindful that we do have those two positions in common. [1:41:46, 1:41:48]: uh in this sixty day time frame. [1:41:51, 1:41:57]: Okay, we have a motion to table this item. We have a motion and a second. [1:41:58, 1:42:01]: No further discussion, all in favor to table? [1:42:03, 1:42:04]: [6126.5, 6128.3]: No opposed votes there. [1:42:08, 1:42:18]: Okay, the next thing we're gonna take up is a discussion for a community improvement district. We won't be voting on this, we'll just be discussing it. [1:42:18, 1:42:38]: And that will be brought to us by Councilwoman Robinson. Yes, thank you, Mayor Neal. I wanted to bring this back. Um this was another item that was on our list that we had for discussion. Um we had a town hall and we did a resolution on last year. I just wanted to bring forth to the council some more information that we [1:42:38, 1:42:58]: We have some more um key players that are involved and also um a little more information that our city manager is gonna um obtain for us once he brings it back. And the reason being is with the rebranding that we're doing um through our Main Street program, we've just had the uh [1:42:58, 1:43:18]: um express lanes to come um on I seventy five. So with our rebranding that goes to show that right there at our 138 corridor, um this is for our community improvement district. So when people are actually on 675 um in the 138 corridor, they'll be able to see the direction of [1:43:18, 1:43:38]: of coming to Stockbridge. So if we're rebranding and doing things for our downtown, our Main Street, this is something that is very important that we just need to look um heavily at. But in order to do that, um Clayton County is um they were at our town hall and they are also have a uh big key players in this [1:43:38, 1:43:58]: However, um Stockbridge is just gonna have to step out um and try to get with Nickelworks and do the study formation study um and but Michael is gonna get you know, get a little more details to uh bring back to us to see if there what type of funding it's gonna entail. But I did [1:43:58, 1:44:00]: [6241.5, 6259.1]: She's gonna come up, Miss Vivian is gonna come up and she's on the part of the steering committee with our with our one Henry um program initiative that we have now in Henry County. So she's gonna um advise the council their piece so that way you'll be fully informed on what the one Henry has. [1:44:20, 1:44:24]: Could you give us your full name and address and everything for the record? Yes. [1:44:24, 1:44:28]: My name is Vivian Angela Thomas. My address is one oh seven [1:44:28, 1:44:30]: Bayberry Hills, McDonough, Georgia. [1:44:31, 1:44:32]: three oh two five three. [1:44:33, 1:44:35]: And I hope I don't hit any of these keys here. [1:44:36, 1:44:37]: I'll hold it up here. [1:44:39, 1:44:49]: I want to uh thank the Mayor, Mayor Neal and the Council for allowing me to speak today and I really want to thank Councilwoman Anit Robertson for bringing this back to you all's attention. [1:44:50, 1:45:01]: Uh C that CIDs are very, very important structures that are used by many counties and cities to help with their economic structure, to help with their infrastructure and help with unification. [1:45:01, 1:45:21]: We do have interested parties that are willing to work with this CID that we're proposing. Henry County has one active CID, but it's going toward the south end of the county. Now we want to make sure that the northeast northern end of the county, which is the 138 quarter, and now we have people interested in the Hudson. [1:45:21, 1:45:41]: Some bridge areas will that want to participate in this CID. What we've done so far, and I have been working with the one Henry, and I have been charged with putting together information to determine how far we can go with this this time. And I think this was a very good time for me to come up because after hearing you talk about your uh fiber oxygen. [1:45:41, 1:45:48]: optics, something we desperately need and hopefully you will consider to attract more businesses here. [1:45:49, 1:46:09]: What we've done so far, I met with Neat Robinson, Councilman Neat Robinson and um Michael Harris in reference to work that was done prior to me. And there was a group working prior to me, and they were part of that group in this discussion, looking at the feasibility of it, trying to see what stakeholders are willing to participate, because we're looking for a proper [1:46:09, 1:46:29]: property owners, at least fifty percent plus in the impacted areas, to participate. When they participate, it's like a self imposed tax that they put upon themselves to add to the beautification of the area, to add to the infrastructure again, to add to the green space to attract more people to stop in the area, to [1:46:29, 1:46:42]: to spend more money in the area. So that's what a CID does. In the state of Georgia, we have several people who've already done this. You know about in the Cumberland area. We also know about in the downtown community improvement districts. [1:46:42, 1:47:02]: Uh Gwinnett has an active CID and Fulton County. We also know that College Park now is willing to look has the CID active, but Clay County wants to know who's interested on this part because they want to work with us from the one thirty eight corridor. So now we have two counties who complement each other, who could possibly put money into the [1:47:02, 1:47:22]: whole game to make this happen. Another positive on our behalf, we have now two progressive council persons. One would be Council mean Commissioner Bruce Holmes, and I said counsel, I meant commissioners, Commissioner Bruce Holmes and Commissioner D. Clements, who are part of the Stockbridge area. Now [1:47:22, 1:47:42]: Now they have not made a commitment, but I think we can talk to them at least about it, trying to help them commit some funding to this. As council person Neek Robinson has said, we need a lead partner. We need someone to say, Let's step up and make this happen. We need feasibility studies to take place. We need to talk to the Nichols group and talk about what can they do? [1:47:42, 1:48:02]: Do to help us move it forward. We don't want it to start the conversation, have it die again. We need to go through the whole process of entertaining and talking to the business owners, finding all the stakeholders, finding all the political people interested in it. Stock bridge should not be left in the coal again. [1:48:02, 1:48:05]: We should not be falling behind Hateville. [1:48:05, 1:48:10]: We should not be falling behind College Park. It just shouldn shouldn't happen. We're in Henry County. [1:48:11, 1:48:23]: We shouldn't be trying to determine when we're going to have the Googles come to us. We should have them fighting coming to us. We should not be sitting back trying to decide what communication piece needs to come next. We should know ahead of time. [1:48:24, 1:48:33]: That's planning. We should not be looking at other counties like Cobb County and Gwinnett County and saying, We want to be like that. We can be like that. [1:48:33, 1:48:53]: We have the dollars here in Henry County, we have the educational base here in Henry County, we have the capabilities here in Henry County, we have the land span here in Henry County. There is no excuse for us not to be competing with the Gunettes, with the apparatus, with the cob counties. We're just a little bit slow. [1:48:53, 1:48:55]: And we need to change there. [1:48:55, 1:49:15]: We can change that with uh doing our feasibility studies. We can change that by adjusting our budgets, we can change that by going ahead and making some type of commitment to make it happen. And that's what I wanted to talk to you about tonight, to make that commitment, to talk about what you can do to draw people to be more [1:49:16, 1:49:19]: committed to seeing this CID come to fluration. [1:49:20, 1:49:22]: And I'll be glad to answer any questions. [1:49:24, 1:49:30]: Yes. I just want to say thank you. Can I say Amen? Well thank you. [1:49:31, 1:49:51]: I appreciate what you brought forward and uh so w w we we we get some numbers that we can take a look at uh for nickel works. I'm on board so we can move forward. Well I want to say that uh your city manager's been so helpful. He helped us to identify what type of businesses are here, where they are, how [1:49:51, 1:49:52]: How to locate them? [1:49:52, 1:49:55]: how to address them. So we'll be moving forward with that. [1:49:55, 1:50:15]: We were very uh grateful to get the information from Councilwoman Nee Robertson and getting the maps that are proposed areas and the overlays and the possibilities. We also was able to get the contacts in Clayton County, knowing who to talk to and let in, to see what they're willing to commit to make it happen as well. So the process is taking place. [1:50:15, 1:50:23]: What I need is for you all to say it can happen, we can make it happen and make a commitment from Stockbridge to the CID process. [1:50:24, 1:50:27]: Ms. Thomas, if you when is the next one Henry meeting? [1:50:28, 1:50:38]: It's normally now the group that I am in, you know, they're different committees. Okay. Are you part of the C I D? Are you dealing with when d when do you think the first Thursday of every month? [1:50:39, 1:50:40]: Three o'clock. [1:50:41, 1:50:42]: at the heritage bank. [1:50:45, 1:50:48]: Now there is a steering committee that would be looking at the funding of this whole process. [1:50:49, 1:50:58]: And um Councilwoman Robinson is a part of that steering committee. So you have a voice there that can watch the process of learning how we would get additional funding to make it happen. [1:50:59, 1:51:19]: Yes. Councilman Blount. With that corridor and the in and out of the county city and so we've already started the process of the intergovernment agreements with them pertaining to the uh CID? The paperwork itself has not taken place. The process, the investigation, locating the stakeholders, [1:51:19, 1:51:33]: uh putting together the list of the companies that will be involved. That process has taken place. When we get to the point where different facets of the government can say we're in with this, then we can bring in those stakeholders and have some type of [1:51:33, 1:51:40]: uh one on one business to business breakfast or luncheon. Educate them on the whole process because this is a self imposed tax. [1:51:40, 1:51:42]: We need them to agree to that. [1:51:42, 1:51:59]: So when you said Clayton County, I'm saying what role right now in Clayton County have we talked to you about pertaining to that? Because we share that area uh, you know, off of seventy five, we want to make sure that both ends of seventy five are have the advantage of some type of beautification. [1:51:59, 1:52:19]: You understand what I'm saying? But I understand but I'm saying you when you said Clayton County has their you you almost like they're ready and on board. I'm just trying to figure out in what capacity because we still have to work on an intergovernmental agreement with them because of the absolute area. They've identified a point person, they've identified their just like us, we w they've identified the business owners. [1:52:20, 1:52:36]: they've identified the process of going through and completing everything. Uh I think the whole goal is before going to the next step, we want to give that same commitment over here. So one side of the seventy five corridor won't be pink and one side be purple, you know, that type of thing. [1:52:36, 1:52:39]: So they're they've not moved any farther than where we are right now. [1:52:39, 1:52:59]: Here, I I'm I'm I'm for it. Uh I I never came against it before. I just wanted to move the way we're supposed to move with it. Uh I think uh Councilwoman Robinson, whatever connection she's doing with you and whatever you all are doing, if we can get those identifiable areas with the intergovernment agreement to move the C I D forward. Well you know one advantage is that Clayton County doesn't [1:52:59, 1:53:07]: does have a C I D in College Park which they did with the airport, which is producing quite well. So they know the process [1:53:07, 1:53:12]: And in that perspective they know they're committed'cause they've done one already. [1:53:13, 1:53:14]: We just need to get our part. [1:53:15, 1:53:18]: Correct and then say we're ready and they're ready to talk with us. [1:53:18, 1:53:20]: Okay, thank you. [1:53:21, 1:53:41]: One other comment. They're actually working on one for the South Lake area too, isn't that correct? The one for the South Lake Mall area, so they've gotten one down which is the airport, I think, South C I D and they share one I think uh with Fulton. But at the same time, you know they're they're identifying these C I D's moving [1:53:40, 1:54:00]: Moving ahead with them so they have a headwind. We just like you said, we need to move, correct? We need to move. We have to understand where we're located. We're located right off of seventy five. And we have to understand that Here we County at one time was identified as like the sixth fastest growing county in the nation. We just have to identify who we are. And I think Here we County is not identified [1:54:00, 1:54:12]: about who we are and how much of a player we are when it comes down to economy. We we kinda stand back and let other people build their things and go, look at what they're doing and we can do the same thing. [1:54:13, 1:54:17]: And we need the largest city in Henry County to make that commitment for us and lead the way. [1:54:19, 1:54:33]: Okay, any other uh points of discussion on the city. Thank you, uh Ms. Thomas. Also wanted to give the city manager an opportunity to speak so that way he can um give his piece what he has so far. [1:54:37, 1:54:47]: as noted, uh met with Councilwoman Robinson and and um Miss Vivian um to kinda go through the process of what they're trying to do. Um [1:54:49, 1:55:00]: We'll be reaching out. We're notified that there is there was a draft uh document that was done uh previously um for some of these areas in questions, so we're gonna reach out to them and find out. [1:55:00, 1:55:01]: With the consultant that did that. [1:55:02, 1:55:05]: uh did that work and find out what's on what's stated on there. [1:55:05, 1:55:06]: Um [1:55:07, 1:55:11]: and seeing what opportunities'cause again at some point what Councilman Brom said asked about was [1:55:12, 1:55:14]: Um the city's willingness to fund [1:55:14, 1:55:16]: part of the study to move forward with this. [1:55:17, 1:55:20]: initiatives. That's something we'd have to discuss with the council members to see where they [1:55:20, 1:55:23]: how they'd want to proceed with uh taking that next step. [1:55:24, 1:55:24]: Um [1:55:25, 1:55:42]: at some point someone's gonna need to engage someone to get the process started. Um ultimately it does it falls to the um commercial community and the business community to take on this task, but um I think it it appears that what other jurisdictions have done in the past is [1:55:42, 1:55:46]: We brought a consultant on to kinda help galvanize the business community. [1:55:46, 1:55:48]: Um to get you know, seed money, if you will. [1:55:48, 1:55:51]: to get the process jump started and and and began. So [1:55:52, 1:56:12]: So we have, we put together some maps, we've identified who the businesses are within that corridor. Um we're going to go back through a review and take a look at uh what exists um on the previous draft uh feasibility study that was done and then see what next steps we can take and at some point should it be the council desire to move forward with bringing forward a request. [1:56:12, 1:56:32]: request for um helping to fund some of that um some of that that initial draft or the initial um um start up funds in connection with in this case likely the um Henry County and doing some kind of joint agreement with them since since again at one hundred thirty eight in particular it's in and out of the city's boundary so [1:56:31, 1:56:34]: So there needs to be some cohesiveness whatever is done. [1:56:35, 1:56:37]: Hi, any other comments? [1:56:38, 1:56:42]: You don't mind. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you a lot for your presentation. Appreciate it. And uh [1:56:42, 1:57:02]: And I'm without a doubt a supportive of whatever we can do to assist the process with our interchanges and to help beautify the area and bring help bring businesses to the area by beautifying and get those those actual businesses involved in and taxing themselves and aspects as well. So uh hopefully w things will move forward and we can do some good things. Thank you. [1:57:02, 1:57:09]: Okay. Um we will move on from that topic at this point. We appreciate you bringing that up for discussion. Um [1:57:10, 1:57:19]: Before we go any further, I saw our chamber president come in, Rod Meadows. I don't know if you are here on official business. Wanna come to the podium, say a few words? [1:57:20, 1:57:26]: Thank you, um Mayor and members of the council. Uh I'm uh very pleased uh [1:57:26, 1:57:32]: work with you as chair of the chamber, but I'm actually here tonight as representative of the uh development authority. [1:57:32, 1:57:35]: Uh at the request of the council, my understanding. [1:57:36, 1:57:39]: So I'm standing by for whenever you're ready for that agenda item. [1:57:43, 1:57:52]: All right. Well let's move on. We've gone through discussion. Uh at this point, do we have any um ending comments from our um city [1:57:53, 1:57:54]: Manager. [1:57:54, 1:58:04]: All right, no comments. Are there any um comments that anybody has not been able to make so far during the evening that you'd like to make? Yes. [1:58:04, 1:58:05]: Councilman Alexander. [1:58:05, 1:58:25]: I always like to thank citizens for taking their time to come out and inju and uh take part in the democratic process of bettering our city. Uh I see Miss Lewis is here now who joined our um youth advisory board here earlier and and thank you for volunteering. [1:58:25, 1:58:35]: volunteer and you weren't acknowledged earlier, but I'd like to acknowledge you now and thank you uh for coming out tonight and choosing to give your time to the city. [1:58:35, 1:58:38]: I just want to say uh to the citizens out there [1:58:39, 1:58:56]: Ladies and gentlemen, we have monumental tasks in front of us. And we have to avoid the pitfalls and the distractions. I'm committed to uh working with this team to move the city forward to be the best city in the twenty first century that we can possibly be. [1:58:56, 1:59:12]: But that we're that that we can't get distracted by uh you know, issues that come up along the way. We have to move forward and we have to put water under the bridge and move ourselves uh in a positive direction to be the best we can be. So thank you so much. [1:59:13, 1:59:16]: Okay, any comments, Councilman White? [1:59:16, 1:59:24]: Um I'd just like to say to everyone that um since I became a city council member, one of the things I've always done and tried to do [1:59:25, 1:59:29]: uh is to present to you all first of all my character and who I am. [1:59:29, 1:59:33]: Who I am in the community, with or without this position as city council member. [1:59:33, 1:59:35]: And someone told me right now. [1:59:35, 1:59:47]: Could you work in the community for free or be a city councilman and just get paid and and to do certain things that we demand from the city council member as a city council member? Give me the community every time. [1:59:47, 1:59:50]: But I'm able to work in the way that I am in the community. [1:59:51, 1:59:59]: representing the city council because of there's a respect factor that is there because I'm a part of government that's out there with the citizens. [1:59:59, 2:00:19]: And I've always been this the same person that you're going to see before you now. That's who I am in my church. That's who I am in my community. That's who I am every day you see me. I'm about community. I'm about serving the citizens of Stockbridge. And there's anything that anyone ever need, you need me to be hands on with you, give me a call and [2:00:19, 2:00:39]: any time. I'd also like to thank uh uh another m uh new member from uh actually it's Carris Lakes uh subdivision that was appointed to the uh Main Street uh uh s uh Main Street board, uh Mr Willie Hawkins if you don't mind standing just kinda wave your hand in the air like you just don't care. Uh we appreciate that. And uh [2:00:39, 2:00:42]: Uh just uh I'm looking forward to a great year in twenty seventeen. [2:00:44, 2:01:04]: All right. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Appreciate it. Uh citizens, it's always good to have you engaged and and and here present with us as well as if if anybody may be watching at home. Uh but uh keep the faith, uh we're gonna do good things in two thousand seventeen. I also want you to know that we recently had a council retreat uh which is publicly uh notify notified the public in all [2:01:04, 2:01:24]: this stuff the when we were where we're located. But uh what I want to tell you it was it was worthwhile, engaging, very spirited and we set some goals and objectives and uh for the future so we'll uh looking forward to accomplish those those uh items there. Um also what happened this past week is uh based on the fact of the our successful job fairs that we've had in the city uh [2:01:24, 2:01:37]: Uh we were actually awarded the City of Stockbridge is actually awarded the good uh good year uh goodwill ambassador for the year and then this was effort as period by Councilman Alexander, but it is an award for the entire city. So [2:01:37, 2:01:50]: And uh we'll have that and display that here in the city hall for you all to take a look at. It's a good recognition for us uh across the board, a good advertisement and I know we'll continue on with those job fairs in the future as well. Um [2:01:51, 2:02:11]: I also want you to know that I am not uh I'm a football fan, but I'm not a diehard Falcon fan, but I want you to know that I I hurt too. I I I hurt I still hurt, okay? So I just want you to know that uh that um I'm with you. And I don't know how they blew that lead either, okay? But regardless of that, uh member of the [2:02:10, 2:02:15]: I also want to tell you, happy Valentine's Day. [2:02:16, 2:02:26]: Alright, enjoy your your loved ones or the special significant others uh tomorrow evening and uh have a good time and continue to keep the faith. God bless you all. Thank you. [2:02:27, 2:02:28]: Councilwoman Gaint. [2:02:29, 2:02:32]: Well now that Councilman Ford opened up my wound. [2:02:33, 2:02:35]: Uh with the Falcons. [2:02:35, 2:02:52]: I um wanna just thank everyone for coming out. I ask that you continue to pray um for us. Um it's not easy being up here and making decisions for the city, but we all do it for the purpose of serving. And um I just um [2:02:52, 2:03:11]: You know, we've got a lot accomplished and we're headed in the gr uh right you know, the right direction. We had a wonderful retreat and we look forward to serving you in the future. Um, feel free to reach out to me by email or by uh phone. You can find all of our information on the City of Stockbridge website. Thank you. [2:03:12, 2:03:20]: That was woman Robinson. Yes, wanna thank everyone for coming out. Um thank you for the young lady that we acknowledge tonight. Um [2:03:20, 2:03:40]: who was um in re representing and for Congressman David Scott's office. Also wanna thank Ms. Vivian Thomas for definitely coming doing that presentation. Thank you so very much because that's something that we've been talking about and we just really need to move forward and um put the pen to the paper. Um so thank you again and again for those that were appointed to [2:03:40, 2:04:00]: Tonight, um especially to my youth council advisory. I'm excited for that. So I think coming soon our attorney will be in contact so that way you can have that up first up and coming meeting. Um so look forward for that. So again, thanks everyone for volunteering um for our city because that is something that we do. [2:04:00, 2:04:04]: desperately desperately need here in the city of Stockbridge. Thank you. [2:04:05, 2:04:12]: Uh at this time um I would like to tell you just a little bit about some upcoming meetings that are happening. [2:04:12, 2:04:32]: And I want to explain something. The council has had a lot of discussions about what to call different meetings, and uh this is what's going to happen in the future. The City of Stockbridge will host four town hall meetings a year. Those will be quarterly, they will [2:04:32, 2:04:43]: will be at the city hall and those will be we will be able to give you an update of whatever is going on. At at each town hall meeting you will get an update [2:04:44, 2:04:49]: always on the finances of the city as to how the revenues are coming in. [2:04:49, 2:05:09]: And then individual council members will be able to have what will be called and advertised as community meetings. Those will be held out in the community wherever they choose to do that. And so we want you to understand the difference of a town hall meeting will be at City Hall. [2:05:09, 2:05:28]: Community meetings will be out in neighborhoods. And we have one coming up on February sixteenth, and that will be with Councilman Alexander, and that one will be at the um Red Oak United Methodist Church on February sixteenth. [2:05:28, 2:05:32]: And you can pick up a copy of this information off our website. [2:05:33, 2:05:48]: Um or if you want to talk to Councilman Alexander about that, please do so before you leave. Another one will be um an ongoing um event that happens frequently and it will be a community meeting hosted by [2:05:48, 2:05:49]: Um [2:05:49, 2:05:56]: fr uh our pro tem, uh Anthony Ford and that w is called Coffee with the Cop. It'll still be a community meeting [2:05:57, 2:06:00]: But it the subtitle is Coffee with the Cop. [2:06:00, 2:06:03]: And that will be on February twenty fifth. [2:06:03, 2:06:05]: at the Bridgeville Country Cooking Restaurant. [2:06:06, 2:06:09]: And that's held usually between eight thirty and ten o'clock in the morning. [2:06:10, 2:06:19]: Also there will be three official city meetings coming up. One is the zoning advisory board meeting on February twenty third. [2:06:19, 2:06:23]: You can find all the details about that on our website. [2:06:23, 2:06:26]: downtown development authority known as the D DA. [2:06:27, 2:06:32]: That will be meeting on February twenty seventh at the city hall, six PM. [2:06:32, 2:06:36]: And then there will be a council work session [2:06:36, 2:06:40]: And that will be February twenty eighth at the city hall. [2:06:40, 2:06:43]: um in the council chamber here. [2:06:43, 2:06:56]: So those are our upcoming meetings. Uh I need to ask our uh attorney, do we have any executive session issues tonight? Yes ma'am, we'd like to have an executive session for real estate matters, personnel and litigation. [2:06:57, 2:07:12]: Okay, you've heard that. We cannot estimate exactly how long we'll be in executive session, but uh if you want to wait, you're welcome to do that. If you want to run get a cup of coffee for thirty minutes and come back, you're welcome to do that. [2:07:12, 2:07:15]: Uh we'll be back out as soon as we can. [2:07:15, 2:07:21]: Yeah. And we need a motion from one of the council members now at this point to go into executive session. [2:07:22, 2:07:25]: Mayor Neal, I make a motion that we go into executive session. [2:07:26, 2:07:30]: We have a motion from Councilwoman Robinson. Do I hear a second? [2:07:30, 2:07:33]: For real estate purposes, personnel. [2:07:33, 2:07:34]: And litigates. [2:07:36, 2:07:36]: Thank you. [2:07:36, 2:07:38]: Do I hear a second? A second. [2:07:39, 2:07:42]: Okay, we have a motion and a second. All in favor? [2:07:43, 2:07:46]: Okay, we're into executive session. Thank you. [2:07:48, 2:07:50]: Oh boy. [2:08:05, 2:08:05]: It's a [2:08:11, 2:08:13]: Question. [2:08:16, 2:08:18]: Button camp. [2:08:20, 2:08:31]: [7736.7, 7739.4]: [2:09:02, 2:09:03]: I wanted to know better. [2:09:09, 2:09:20]: [7765.0, 7780.0]: I would say [2:09:45, 2:09:50]: [7790.0, 7810.0]: But eating white D and um [2:10:14, 2:10:17]: All right. I just want to give you a heads up on [2:10:17, 2:10:22]: after we eventually have the meeting I'll give you an update so you'll know where it is. [2:10:24, 2:10:25]: All right, thank you. [2:10:37, 2:10:45]: Oh yeah, [2:10:50, 2:11:10]: And then we can see over everything. [2:11:10, 2:11:30]: Yeah, we'll have to do it. [2:11:29, 2:11:49]: No, look at an apple. [2:11:49, 2:12:09]: Oh these uh uh silicate or something. Oh Google, yeah. Um [2:12:09, 2:12:29]: [7949.7, 7969.7]: [2:12:49, 2:12:54]: [7976.0, 7996.0]: [2:13:16, 2:13:26]: I think how [2:13:27, 2:13:46]: I don't know. [2:13:49, 2:14:05]: Uh-uh. [2:14:06, 2:14:08]: Yeah, so [2:14:08, 2:14:11]: [8059.5, 8064.4]: Library is fine. [2:14:45, 2:14:49]: No no, no. Elton. [2:14:54, 2:15:06]: This considered. This is a c this is a quorum. This is a quorum. Okay, I got it. I got it. Okay, if I could have everyone's attention. [2:15:10, 2:15:14]: I need a motion to end the executive session. [2:15:14, 2:15:17]: [8118.5, 8121.3]: [2:15:29, 2:15:43]: Now that we have our clerk back with us, I need a motion to end the executive session. Mayor Neal, I'm make a motion to extend executive session, please. We have a motion, but I have a second. We have now a second by Pro Tem Ford. [2:15:43, 2:15:46]: And uh is there any discussion about that? [2:15:47, 2:15:48]: If not [2:15:49, 2:15:50]: All in favour? [2:15:51, 2:15:59]: Okay, we're reporting out there were no items to be voted on from executive session. Reacting the emotion open to meeting back up. [2:15:59, 2:16:06]: Okay, at this time um we need a motion to open this meeting back up [2:16:07, 2:16:08]: So moved. [2:16:08, 2:16:10]: Do I have a second? Second. [2:16:11, 2:16:20]: No items to be voted on at this point. Mayor. Yes. We need a um I just need to put in the record that Councilwoman Gantt has left the meeting. Okay. [2:16:21, 2:16:23]: Councilwoman Gann had to leave early. [2:16:23, 2:16:27]: At this time do I hear a motion to end the meeting? [2:16:28, 2:16:30]: So moved. Do I hear a second? Second. [2:16:30, 2:16:35]: All right, I'll and any discussion, let's discuss that. You all wanna discuss? [2:16:36, 2:16:38]: You sure you guys don't want to talk some more? [2:16:39, 2:16:41]: All right. In that case then. [2:16:42, 2:16:43]: All in favour? [2:16:44, 2:16:47]: All right. Thank you. Meeting adjourned. [2:16:53, 2:16:56]: That's what just what we did? [2:16:58, 2:17:00]: That was a motion to adjourn this meeting.