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--- title: November 29 2016 Work Session Meeting date: 2016-11-29 source: 2016-11-29_November_29_2016_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:20]: [ 28.7, 30.0]: Right. Uh [0:00:30, 0:00:31]: Madam Clerk, you're ready? [0:00:32, 0:00:33]: City Manager? [0:00:33, 0:00:35]: Senator, ready to go? [0:00:35, 0:00:40]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to call this uh meeting to order a council work session. I have roughly [0:00:40, 0:00:42]: I'm after five after [0:00:43, 0:00:44]: Sex. [0:00:45, 0:00:46]: Okay. [0:00:47, 0:00:48]: Um [0:00:49, 0:00:51]: Pastor Garrison, the case in please. [0:00:52, 0:00:53]: Do I please stand? [0:00:59, 0:01:01]: [ 62.7, 64.4]: Eternal Garby, thank you for uh [0:01:04, 0:01:07]: Allowing us to make it through another Thanksgiving season. [0:01:08, 0:01:13]: And for blessing us to enter into this new Christmas season. God, we thank you for life and health and strength. [0:01:13, 0:01:23]: We thank you for this council God in the city that we love called Stockbridge. We pray now that you would be with these council members and all of our city officers now as they conduct your business. [0:01:23, 0:01:26]: We thank you for the opportunity to serve. [0:01:26, 0:01:33]: And we love you for the opportunity to be here one with another. We love you, we honor you, and we thank you in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. [0:01:35, 0:01:47]: And the power of the United States of America to the republic of which is nation under the justice. [0:01:53, 0:02:05]: Madam Clerk, roll call please. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilman Blount. Mayor Pro Tem Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilwoman Robinson. Present. Mayor Pro Tem, you have a quorum. Thank you. [0:02:06, 0:02:10]: Council, I need a uh motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:02:12, 0:02:14]: Mayor Protein. Yes, ma'am. [0:02:14, 0:02:19]: I make a motion to adopt the ad to adopt the agenda. Second there you go. [0:02:19, 0:02:20]: Any discussion? [0:02:21, 0:02:22]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:02:23, 0:02:24]: Okay. [0:02:24, 0:02:29]: On pose? No, no. Okay. Okay. All right then. Good deal. [0:02:29, 0:02:32]: Okay. Uh please review the minutes. Um [0:02:33, 0:02:38]: October tenth, uh, twenty sixteen, October twenty fifth, two thousand sixteen, which is a special call meeting. [0:02:39, 0:02:45]: and um october twenty fifth, twenty sixteen. Review them and we will actually um [0:02:46, 0:02:52]: See if there's any changes to that and we'll actually vote on these uh at our next uh regular scheduled meeting. [0:02:53, 0:02:55]: Take a few minutes to take a look at that, please. [0:03:20, 0:03:21]: [214.1, 217.7]: Okay, so there are no uh comments and we'll move it on these [0:03:38, 0:03:42]: three uh amendments excuse me, these three agendas at our next meeting. [0:03:42, 0:03:47]: So on that note, uh Madam Clerk, we have any public comments at all? There are no public comments. Okay. [0:03:50, 0:03:56]: And then so the next n item is new business, which is a public hearing in reference to our second reading. [0:03:56, 0:03:59]: of the proposed uh twenty seventeen operating budget. [0:04:00, 0:04:03]: And uh what I like to do is um [0:04:04, 0:04:06]: Mentioned this. [0:04:07, 0:04:12]: We had a couple of adjustments uh that are in the book council uh that were that were made. [0:04:13, 0:04:15]: And um [0:04:17, 0:04:18]: That uh [0:04:19, 0:04:23]: So we had a seven thousand five hundred dollars for historical preservation committee. [0:04:24, 0:04:25]: Uh let's send you a book there. [0:04:26, 0:04:30]: Uh deals with membership dues, ca uh consulting and supplies, training and travel. [0:04:31, 0:04:38]: We added uh two thousand five hundred and seventy two thousand seven hundred and fifty dollars for the zoning advisory board. [0:04:40, 0:04:42]: That includes supplies, training and travel. [0:04:44, 0:04:51]: I also added uh a small amount of uh five hundred dollars to committee supplies as well involving ethics committee training and travel. [0:04:52, 0:04:54]: [295.3, 299.3]: Then we added uh thirty thousand dollars to the interchange landscaping. [0:05:00, 0:05:03]: I have here service route one hundred thirty eight to Hudson Bridge. I believe that is correct. [0:05:04, 0:05:08]: Those are the highlights that w that were of changes that were added [0:05:10, 0:05:20]: Um but what we didn't get a chance to really do last time on our first reading is that uh we didn't allow the public to give any comments before we had our discussion. [0:05:21, 0:05:39]: So what I'd like to do uh Mr. Attorney and Mr. Williams is uh is at least allow the public to give any initial comments now that they may know of before we go into any any type of additional discussion and then have comments afterwards as well. So I'd like to open it up for public comments on a budget for twenty seventeen [0:05:39, 0:05:41]: And um [0:05:42, 0:05:50]: And I I'll start from my far um it's my actually my left, my far left, there's any comments from anybody in this section at all. [0:05:51, 0:05:52]: Anybody in the middle? [0:05:53, 0:05:55]: [355.9, 357.9]: Anybody in the right size? So if not [0:05:58, 0:06:00]: And I'll close the public comments for now. [0:06:00, 0:06:04]: And and we'll go into the uh discussion of our second reading. [0:06:05, 0:06:06]: Uh for [0:06:06, 0:06:08]: Uh the two thousand seventeen budget. [0:06:09, 0:06:13]: And Mr Harris uh wanted to know if there was any any other [0:06:13, 0:06:18]: comments that we're received from the council that would help us go through this process here, sir. [0:06:19, 0:06:34]: Yes sir. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. There have been you you already hit the high points from the changes that are reflected in this current reversion ver version of the budget and it should be noted that this version has also been posted on the city's website for public viewing as well. [0:06:35, 0:06:46]: But one of the com a couple of comments that were received between the last budget and this budget, one was in regards to a reduction in the number of summer concerts on in our sounds of summer [0:06:46, 0:06:50]: concert series, there's been a proposal to reduce that from three concerts. [0:06:50, 0:06:51]: Down to two concerts. [0:06:52, 0:06:55]: Um and that's a topic for council consideration. [0:06:57, 0:06:58]: Okay. Um [0:07:01, 0:07:09]: Okay, in any any discussion on this uh particular issue, I mean uh two from two to three, the rationale for that or or rationale to keep it at three? [0:07:09, 0:07:14]: [434.8, 435.6]: Um [0:07:16, 0:07:19]: Well we had the uh three concerts along with the uh bridge past [0:07:21, 0:07:24]: We brought the bridge face down to uh one concert [0:07:25, 0:07:25]: Um [0:07:26, 0:07:27]: Which [0:07:27, 0:07:30]: It was a bridge fest slash Hispanic festival. [0:07:30, 0:07:32]: And I think it was very successful. [0:07:32, 0:07:46]: Um on the Sounds of Summer we budgeted uh I think it was forty thousand dollars last year for the three Sounds of Summer concerts. The twenty sixteen adopted budget was thirty seven five and what's being proposed for twenty seventeen is forty thousand. [0:07:47, 0:07:49]: Well his proposal is forty thousand. [0:07:49, 0:07:51]: Um I think that [0:07:51, 0:07:56]: Because the concerts were so close together with the t three sounds of summer. [0:07:56, 0:08:03]: And then the bridge fest that we could do two sounds of summer, one bridge fest like we did, we could save the city at least ten thousand dollars. [0:08:04, 0:08:08]: in that aspect because what's what's going on right now is that we're looking at [0:08:09, 0:08:10]: With this budget. [0:08:11, 0:08:19]: We're looking at what comes in with general funds and if we could have Miss Neighbors address that. What comes in and is general funds for the city. [0:08:19, 0:08:28]: uh those residual funds that will be coming in are less than uh nine nine million dollars. That's my understanding is uh around nine point eight. [0:08:29, 0:08:32]: And what we're budgeting is over ten million dollars. [0:08:33, 0:08:39]: But we're looking at the budget is is also including those residual funds that'll be coming in. So if we want to save [0:08:39, 0:08:42]: At least ten thousand dollars pertaining to [0:08:42, 0:08:47]: that Sounds of Summer, but it wasn't just that Sounds of Summer, it was also keeping the bridge press at one concert. [0:08:48, 0:08:52]: Um one day. One day. One day for the Bridge Fest. [0:08:52, 0:08:56]: which was Bridge Fest slash Hispanic uh festival and I think uh with those two [0:08:57, 0:09:01]: reductions on what was proposed in the budget, we can save the city twenty thousand dollars. [0:09:03, 0:09:23]: Okay. And it go ahead, sir. I um I I did um approve of the moving of BridgeFest from uh two days instead of uh to one day instead of two. I think it was much more efficient, it was more concentrated uh especially for all those involved and the vendors themselves. [0:09:22, 0:09:32]: So I I do approve of that move and I like to keep that. I did uh I must say that uh in terms of the Sounds of Summer concert [0:09:32, 0:09:35]: I I gotta commend the staff. [0:09:35, 0:09:36]: For what [0:09:36, 0:09:49]: a tremendous job that they did and I think I think Miss C C McGee raised a bar in terms of what we should expect and what we can deliver as far as the city is concerned. [0:09:50, 0:10:09]: Uh I think we've had some discussion and on my part, uh suggesting using that second concert maybe as a fourth of July event in order to be able to fill a window because we're absent anything going on almost in the entire South Metro area. [0:10:09, 0:10:29]: uh for for this particular our area in general. I would like to see those continue and I think we suggested moving that to have a Fourth of July event. But I would say that uh what we can do is we gotta hold ourselves accountable and and uh the day of just saying [0:10:29, 0:10:35]: we want to uh have an event and not have that event pay for itself [0:10:35, 0:10:55]: uh should be coming to a close. So should that second concert be moved to the fourth of July or that weekend, then I would suggest it'll be incumbent upon us as a council to deliver to bring some sponsors to the table and not uh use taxpayer funding all the time. And I think [0:10:55, 0:11:15]: Every single department uh in the city should be held accountable to uh bring sponsorships uh to the table and actually deliver upon that. So I'm in I'm I'm I'm for keeping the concert series uh at three right now because it really seemed almost appropriate that we had one each [0:11:14, 0:11:15]: Mark. [0:11:15, 0:11:18]: And each one seemed to get a little bit better than the next. [0:11:20, 0:11:21]: Okay, any other comments? [0:11:21, 0:11:22]: Yes. [0:11:23, 0:11:30]: Um I would like uh Linda Neighbors if she wouldn't mind coming forward because my coming is gonna be dealing with [0:11:30, 0:11:31]: The overall [0:11:31, 0:11:33]: m a budget in itself. [0:11:34, 0:11:36]: Because when we talk about taking [0:11:36, 0:11:38]: uh concerts to another level. [0:11:38, 0:11:42]: Got no lever includes entertainment and it also includes funding for entertainment. [0:11:43, 0:11:59]: We can't set a budget on the projection of what we may do. We have to set a budget on projection of what is and what is right now is that if we can get those funders then we look at the future for what we can do with funders for those that wanna come on board. I don't believe that it's it's uh [0:11:59, 0:12:13]: uh it's it's being good stewards of our finances to say let's keep the three concerts in projection of what could happen. I believe w we should reduce it to two concerts on what is and that's reducing this budget because it's uh [0:12:13, 0:12:17]: It's some residual funding that's going on right now. Uh Miss Neighbors, if you don't mind. [0:12:18, 0:12:24]: come and address in the council uh and and the citizens to let them know that where we are financially because [0:12:25, 0:12:39]: even with the eighty seven percent fund balance that we talked about uh previously, the eighty seven percent fund balance was off of uh twenty fifteen and not the twenty sixteen is also what what has come in or what's going to come in. So uh if you could just [0:12:39, 0:12:45]: give an overview of what what we're bringing in now as a general fund, what we're looking at now that we need to reduce [0:12:46, 0:12:50]: this budget in order that it balance itself out without use of unbalance to balance the budget. [0:12:51, 0:13:05]: As it stands now, we have projected that we would have revenues coming in uh to the general fund of eight point nine million dollars and this budget as it's presented tonight is um going into our fund balance [0:13:05, 0:13:09]: Uh one million five hundred and thirty seven thousand five hundred dollars. [0:13:11, 0:13:12]: And that's [0:13:13, 0:13:18]: I I know some of that is one time uh outpayments for land acquisitions or whatever we talked about. [0:13:19, 0:13:29]: But then even minus that we're still right at we're right at the uh up against the general funding for the city when it comes to balancing this budget. [0:13:29, 0:13:39]: And we can't sit here and be good stewards of the city money and expand that or put it so close where it could expand when we need to make sure we reduce it to a point. [0:13:39, 0:13:45]: where it's comfortable for the city to operate without even saying, Hey, we have to balance this back out with fund balance. [0:13:46, 0:14:06]: So I I appreciate your input, Mr. Harris. Yeah, I I I think that's fair. We firmly had that conversation amongst us um as well. The next item I was going to present was going to be a similar um recommendation, more of a staff recommendation in regards to the land acquisition uh land acquisition, proposed land acquisition. Rather than including that in the budget that [0:14:06, 0:14:23]: backing that back out of the budget, leaving it in and general fund for right now, and fund balance rather, and then utilize it as needed. Um and that would certainly have a a a large impact on balancing our budget s without the util utilizing dipping into our fund balance. [0:14:24, 0:14:29]: All right, on the on the note uh for the uh concerts. Any further comments from this side, ladies? [0:14:30, 0:14:31]: Okay. [0:14:31, 0:14:38]: I would tell you then uh uh here are my comments, I'm actually in favor of three concerts, one per month. I think it's a great thing to have that. [0:14:38, 0:14:51]: Um I've always been in favour of that. I think we can work it out. If we have sponsorships uh that should should equate and should equal itself out. Now if we decide to have something over the Fourth of July holiday weekend, so be it. [0:14:52, 0:15:12]: If that's the case, other st understanding that would cost more money, I'm pretty sure for the I think the conversation was and then correct me if I'm wrong, that we were gonna hold the number at thirty seven five from last year's. We added that a little additional extra and the prospect of maybe there being something extra for Fourth of July. I think that was the the the rationale from going from thirty seven [0:15:11, 0:15:19]: Exactly right, because I've dealt with a little bit of seed money per se for any fireworks if you actually have to uh have it on the fourth of July. [0:15:20, 0:15:21]: So absolutely. So [0:15:21, 0:15:24]: I'm personally I'm in favor of one per month and if we need to adjust it [0:15:25, 0:15:37]: uh for a holiday uh and whatnot and have fireworks and things of that nature, then we need to get sponsorships obviously, as already been stated, that an aspect to help uh make this work. But uh I'm personally in favor of three. [0:15:37, 0:15:42]: Actually, one per month for the summer month. I think the the the citizens will thoroughly enjoy that. [0:15:42, 0:16:02]: And and while um it is y'all's decision, uh back to Mr Blount that um you know, we already feel like we're stepping out on a plank going into fund balance, so just for that to be said, um anywhere we can make, you know, cuts or um uh [0:16:02, 0:16:13]: I'm not proposing to cut services at all, but um you know, we have to be cognizant of that money will not sustain us over any length of time. [0:16:15, 0:16:22]: Y okay. Yes sir. Go right here please. Uh Ms Neighbors, do you happen to have the document that we discussed about [0:16:23, 0:16:43]: the potential level at the different fund balances if we were to go to fifty percent fund balance, if we were to go to forty percent and what type of uh additional revenues that that would provide for the city. Do you happen to have that document? Because I mean, where we are right now, I understand that we're trying to be good [0:16:42, 0:16:47]: good stewards of the citizens' money. But at the same time we're trying to improve the city. [0:16:48, 0:16:49]: And I think that [0:16:49, 0:16:52]: Each and every person that sat at this table. [0:16:52, 0:17:06]: heard uh the same thing that I did, which was the GMA, which is the Georgia Municipal Association, said fund balance should be around twenty fifteen to twenty per twenty five percent. Twenty five percent would be ideal. [0:17:06, 0:17:26]: Uh knowing that uh we are where we are last year the lat latest latest numbers that we had was we were at eighty seven percent. And I challenge everybody up here and I said the same thing. One of the reasons the city looks like it does is because the fund balance is at eighty seven percent and we haven't spent enough money. [0:17:26, 0:17:36]: maintaining it. So no I don't want to uh you know, pour our money down at the down the drain, but I do want to main sir maintain services [0:17:36, 0:17:41]: at the current level and I want to fulfill the promises that I made to the citizens. [0:17:41, 0:17:51]: I will say that I'm not for taking the funds out of the budget that we had set forth for uh potential property acquisitions. [0:17:52, 0:18:01]: We have been talking to the citizens for years about downtown redevelopment. There is no downtown redevelopment without money. [0:18:01, 0:18:18]: You can run your mouth all day long. You can say, I want this, I want this building, I want that, I want to see this go up. But if you don't put any money behind that, you have nothing to talk about. And if you go to a property owner and you say, Mr. Property Owner, they're gonna say how much? [0:18:18, 0:18:23]: They're not gonna say, Well, I'll get back to you. These deals close very, very quickly. [0:18:23, 0:18:27]: I think that the council has been very, very aggressive. [0:18:27, 0:18:47]: Setting a budget with the terms that we're going to use one time acquisitions or one time funding items out of fund balance, which should leave us well in excess of fifty to sixty percent fund balance when all of the teachings and training [0:18:47, 0:18:54]: trainings that we have said have been taught said fifteen to twenty five percent. Henry County still has twenty five percent. [0:18:55, 0:18:58]: I can't lead in fear. I can't do it. [0:18:58, 0:19:18]: I can't lead in a situation where I'm trying to I'm not I'm I'm not trying to be regressive because of what happened in the past. We had the DDA situations, we had a lot of other situations. But we can't lead lead looking in the rear view mirror. We must lead in a forward direction, making the changes in a [0:19:18, 0:19:19]: A prudent way. [0:19:20, 0:19:22]: And again we're not putting [0:19:22, 0:19:31]: We say every time we we're sitting up here, every person at this council has said one one time or another, we don't want to do budget amendments. [0:19:32, 0:19:43]: If we have the money already setting aside for property acquisition, we don't have to do a budget amendment. And then at the same time, we don't have to use it. [0:19:43, 0:19:47]: But I want to put the pressure on this council to act. [0:19:48, 0:19:52]: Let's stop talking about doing downtown redevelopment and let's do it. [0:19:54, 0:20:01]: Yeah, on that note, I think the the one point five million, uh one point roughly five million coming out of fund balance, I think it gives it about seventy percent. [0:20:02, 0:20:07]: It's uh from eighty seven to seventy. It's nothing close to fifty or twenty five. I think it's about seventy percent. [0:20:07, 0:20:27]: Well and a lot of the GMA advising and um you know the teachings that they do and I'm not trying to be disrespectful, I'm just trying to um make a point that a lot of times that they're trying to save the smaller cities or the smaller counties who really step out on the front edge and get themselves in trouble and so [0:20:27, 0:20:29]: They're saying at the minimum [0:20:30, 0:20:36]: come in at twenty five percent. Yeah. So that's my personal opinion. It t I'm totally not [0:20:37, 0:20:43]: interjecting over your opinion. I don't and to your point, Councilman, I don't think that [0:20:44, 0:20:48]: You know, we understand. You know, ideally, from my standpoint [0:20:49, 0:21:09]: I would love to be able to have SPLOS funds available to utilize for those purchases. I think that in the perfect world that would be ideal if we had that much. We have some SPLOS, we've used the SPLOS land acquisition monies to acquire some property down in that in that downtown area. Um but it's not very much left. Obviously when we come to the next splots, that's something we can certainly at the council can certainly take into consideration. [0:21:09, 0:21:21]: certainly understand and I'm a proponent as well that if we're going to d move forward with the development of the downtown, we do have to actually control it in order to determine how it's going to develop. I think from our standpoint we're simply saying is [0:21:22, 0:21:42]: while I you know some may view a a budget amendment as a dirty word. I mean that's just a that's just a process of doing business. Um so that's certainly a a viable and I think in this case a uh perhaps more prudent option. We don't know this council doesn't know at this point what property at what price we're going to be acquiring. So as they come available [0:21:42, 0:21:51]: knowing that you have um fund balance available for that specific use and purpose, I think that's a that's a great thing. Certainly the council can make the determination in saying [0:21:52, 0:22:07]: We are going to pursue these things with the understanding that um should land become available then we will utilize fund balance for those acquisitions and still being mindful of of not getting too close to to a cap that the council doesn't feel comfortable with. So I I [0:22:07, 0:22:10]: rather than you know, the option is simply [0:22:11, 0:22:12]: Put it in now or [0:22:14, 0:22:15]: Pull it out later. [0:22:15, 0:22:34]: You know, and and I think just that the precedent that it sets by budgeting by balancing your budget, utilizing fund balance, I think it could be perceived as a as a dangerous precedent. That's that's part of our concern certainly. And not saying that we're not you know, we're not for uh land acquisition but balancing through the budget. [0:22:35, 0:22:37]: We would think that it was more prudent to [0:22:38, 0:22:50]: As you actually have a solid agreement or where you see one's coming, then at that point you're not like saying what purchase price you're gonna make on it. But it that's totally a personal perspective. [0:22:51, 0:23:11]: Mayor Pollet? Yes, Mayor. Go right ahead. Um a couple of things in regards to the Sounds of Summer concert, whether we had two or three or we combined something, one thing I do agree upon is possibly doing it for the Fourth of July. Um if we could save money and in the past we did do two. Um we also have [0:23:11, 0:23:27]: have a bridge fest that following month so we could consider on how we strategically when we start our sessions. Um and we also now have food truck t uh uh events coming so we need to take that into consideration. [0:23:27, 0:23:47]: I also would agree, I highly recommend that we take out the land acquisition out of our uh current budget, even though it's a one time thing. I think we all agree that we plan on acquiring properties and getting some things done. We want our downtown development everybody [0:23:47, 0:24:07]: up here has said it. I can agree on that. I think uh um the expertise from Miss Neighbors as our treasurer and Mr. Harris, I think they you guys have way more experience um on this end than we do in regards to what needs to take place with our budget to get that budget [0:24:07, 0:24:27]: budget balance and when it's time to pull that money out, I'm not afraid of amending the balance to pull that money out because we don't know what it's gonna be and we don't know how many properties we're gonna acquire this this upcoming year. It's kinda like we're showing our hand by putting money out there for it. And um you know I I would prefer that we [0:24:27, 0:24:47]: And it'll be something that allows us to um you know you know negotiate a little bit more um and strategically think about. And so I'm for taking that out currently and using [0:24:47, 0:24:50]: Using it when the time c when we're ready for it. [0:24:51, 0:25:04]: Okay, do you have any comments on that at all? And again trying to get sponsorships and I'd rather have it now than later. So if we don't use it it's still there. [0:25:05, 0:25:15]: Alright, so let's uh so two two things have popped up. So let's talk let's talk about the c first thing was the concert. So uh in a sense, um I I gathered now from uh councilwoman uh [0:25:15, 0:25:35]: Robinson's comments that at least three of us are are are set on the fact that we have three concerts. Is that is that correct? All right. So I would say that we're going to stay less we need to take a uh actual vote on this. Okay, all right. So three concerts that it is. Now uh the second point that came up dealt with the land acquisition and it's roughly five hundred thousand [0:25:35, 0:25:55]: dollars there. The public already knows because this is being this broadcast is a public hearing, public hearing. So the broad already knows. It's only it's like preference. What do you prefer? And personally I prefer to be up front and show transparency. This is what we're looking at. Whether we spend the money or not on land is another story. I don't know if we will or not, but I like to see [0:25:55, 0:25:58]: [1558.8, 1566.3]: uh versus uh uh you know saying later you could you have to come to the citizens and tell them anyway, so just do it up front. So I'm really in favor of keeping [0:26:06, 0:26:26]: uh since it initially came for me in this aspect with with conversation with uh Mr. Harris and Miss Neighbors that's one of the things that that I as I mentioned last time we talked about one of the things that I didn't particular they gave me their opinion. I said no I want to do it up front first. Uh so I'm in favor to leaving the money for land acquisition in there now and whether we use it or not [0:26:26, 0:26:27]: That's another story. [0:26:27, 0:26:47]: And when it comes to negotiation with with people, we just have to look at what's proper. We can use our attorney, use all the other a assets we have to to to negotiate properly in that aspect. So I'm in favor of that, is to remain. Uh she's in favor, Ms. Robinson's in favor, and okay, so I would say right now, we don't have to vote on that, right now we have a [0:26:47, 0:26:51]: general consensus that re that remains into the budget itself. [0:26:51, 0:26:52]: Okay. [0:26:52, 0:26:53]: Mayor Pro Tem. Yes, Mayor. [0:26:54, 0:27:00]: I um wanna make one last comment uh for the record. I'm in favor of balancing the budget. [0:27:00, 0:27:10]: More so than anything. I think that's a very important thing that we need to consider and that this past year we did not have [0:27:10, 0:27:11]: Um [0:27:11, 0:27:21]: you know, the courts in regards to uh quite a bit of things and and part of the revenues and different things that we've had in the past we haven't had. So [0:27:21, 0:27:24]: Um uh you know, as finance chair. [0:27:24, 0:27:28]: I'm just concerned personally about budgeting. [0:27:29, 0:27:35]: of balancing the budget. I'm also concerned that, you know, um [0:27:36, 0:27:47]: if we do this in this particular manner that the budget will not balance um based off of what is c being brought in and what we're [0:27:48, 0:28:08]: sending out. And that's one of my biggest um concerns. And I it's not about being tr not being transparent. Um when the time comes to acquire the property, I think that we would notify the public as we always would. It's there's no secret there um that we were going to purchase XY [0:28:08, 0:28:20]: Y and Z property, that's when we would amend the bounce the budget. But for the time being, I don't think it would do us any harm if we have experts here, the people who do this job every day. [0:28:20, 0:28:23]: telling us based off of their recommendations [0:28:24, 0:28:36]: This is their job and they're recommending to us to take that out right now so that we can get a closer to a balanced budget. I thought I think that that would be in the best interest of the citizens at this time. [0:28:37, 0:28:44]: The budget will be balanced, uh councilman and council and citizens to before most all said and done the the balance the budget's gonna be balanced. [0:28:45, 0:28:46]: It'll it'll make it it'll work. [0:28:46, 0:28:50]: It'll work, definitely. Anyway, any other comments on this issue? [0:28:50, 0:29:03]: All right, so on that note sir, what what was next? Any other uh things that came up for consideration? There have been a couple of comments that were made. Um I can run those those quickly, um see if that's something that the council wants to entertain. [0:29:03, 0:29:09]: Um one was in regards to billboards, getting some funding for billboards. Um [0:29:09, 0:29:21]: And then we've done some preliminary numbers, I think it was like four thousand a month. Yeah, four thousand a month ballpark if that's something you want to uh what should be noted is that we do currently have an agreement with our with the Chamber of Commerce. [0:29:21, 0:29:37]: where we can provide them with content and they will they have a couple of I think at least one billboard on seventy five and and they've done been great about if we give them content, they will post it on the billboard as well. I mean like the comment Commons was in regards to us acquiring a billboard of our own. Um [0:29:38, 0:29:58]: You know, one thing we certainly want to do this year is really maximize and leverage that relationship with the chamber. I mean there is a financial uh component that we we we help fund part of the chamber's operations and make sure we're maximizing the services that they provide to us. And I think that's one area that we certainly can tap into that first. [0:29:58, 0:30:01]: um you know far more far more efficiently. [0:30:02, 0:30:19]: Um that was one um there's also con um comes sir. Yes sir. Okay, you want to address that? Correct. [0:30:20, 0:30:22]: There's no exits in Stockbridge. [0:30:23, 0:30:36]: So, you know, one of the things that we could, you know, as a selling point is, you know, if we have that b billboard just south of Morrill somewhere or in that area if the chamber has one, is to make that known. [0:30:37, 0:30:48]: If you get in those express lanes for the next twelve miles, if you need gas, if you need d it's gonna be very limited access. So Stockbridge is basically uh the last stop. [0:30:48, 0:31:08]: before you would be able to do so. Uh we have a lot of exciting new uh partnerships that we should be able to take advantage of. It would be great if we could pair up the Holiday Inn and the new Fairfield Incoming as a Stay Stock Bridge kind of program. It would be the best two choices that you could have south of the [0:31:08, 0:31:10]: South of the city. [0:31:10, 0:31:30]: Um, you know, the digital billboards seem to work out best uh in in those aspects because you can change the messaging or the words going out. But make no mistake about it, um if if a majority of the citizens passing through here are travelers coming to Florida and they're using the synth uh [0:31:30, 0:31:46]: and they're using the Sun Pass or the Peach Pass, we're missing out on those economic dollars every single time. So I wanted to be um you know proactive and do something uh to let those travelers know Stockbridge is the last stop. [0:31:47, 0:32:07]: And uh we offer lodging, we offer hotels, we offer uh great places to eat and all of the above, you know, for uh those citizens. And that was my thinking behind that. I didn't um I didn't know uh, you know, uh whether we could kind of branch that out through the chamber and use existing funds. That would uh [0:32:06, 0:32:19]: uh probably ideal but I just really think at some point we need to have our own funds dictating something stop bridge specific and I haven't heard any feedback from them [0:32:19, 0:32:26]: on what we could do to make something stop bridge specific to the issue I just spoke to. [0:32:27, 0:32:40]: Yeah and to your point and and I again we we've got the request we do kinda do some research to find out what the pricing was, but I I I I I I could certainly see us at some point moving in that direction. Um [0:32:41, 0:33:01]: Council's amenable. I would like for us to really explore sitting down with the chamber and making sure we are maxing out everything that they have to offer. You know, if other if there are other partners that we have with the chamber are not using it, want to make sure we constantly have something, whether it's one month to stay in Stockbridge, next month it's a dine in Stockbridge or [0:33:01, 0:33:16]: Some along those lines at every month, you know, be rotating that through. If if they if they're offering us that service, I want to make sure we're maximizing. I think we can do that. [0:33:16, 0:33:25]: I'm amenable to that if we can put a date certain on that. We've had some talks about we were going to talk to the chamber, but [0:33:26, 0:33:46]: Months have passed by. I can you give me a date where we or by this date this is w where we could have a decision the information to make the decision. Well what I'd like to do is I I I certainly see that as a function of of the economic development director position that's in here. As that gets filled, that would be some of one of the early [0:33:46, 0:34:06]: test that they would be assigned to contact. You know, again, our Main Street Director, Ms. Kerry Harris Briggs, currently sits on the CPB board. So she's constantly in conversation with them as well. So we can begin those conversations now, certainly, let them know this is our intent, this is what we're looking for, to find out if there's any what what they would need from us so we can be prepared as we go into twenty seventeen. [0:34:06, 0:34:15]: seventeen to be able to do that. So that's something we can start now, but certainly I would envision that economic development person being the one to spearhead that effort going forward. [0:34:15, 0:34:25]: Thank you. Maximized, excuse me, maximized. [0:34:25, 0:34:27]: Yeah, uh the chambers uh [0:34:27, 0:34:33]: And and uh the chamber's assets and uh to help the city and whatnot here. Any comments from this end? [0:34:34, 0:34:35]: Oh okay. What was the next thing? [0:34:36, 0:34:39]: Right. Um there was another comment in regards to um [0:34:39, 0:34:40]: Um [0:34:41, 0:34:46]: Initial funding for C I D and a um the prospect for C I D within the um [0:34:46, 0:34:49]: one thirty eight at least the one thirty eight corridor is what you're referring to. [0:34:50, 0:34:52]: And specifically or that in general. [0:34:53, 0:34:53]: Um [0:34:54, 0:35:01]: And and and I do, and this is yeah, the reference was made, the county is currently working with the firm [0:35:01, 0:35:05]: And they have provided some seed money to to get started with the C I D. [0:35:06, 0:35:08]: up in an area south south of the city. [0:35:10, 0:35:23]: There's a number of steps that certainly need to take place. Um I think the enabling legislation still needs to happen. Um and I think having those initial conversations with the business owners in that area. I think the county situation was a little bit different than that. [0:35:23, 0:35:28]: that was you had a number of distribution centers and for them [0:35:28, 0:35:34]: Yeah, they needed some relief from the traffic because it was critical for their operation. So they've been something they've been clamoring for for [0:35:35, 0:35:55]: probably a decade. Um so, you know, in that case you had a again and ultimately at the end of the day, a CID is a responsibility of the business owners, of the private sector as business owners. So they were the ones that were really driving it in that case. Um and I think that the county's role was kind of help to bring them all together to help help help get to jumpstart [0:35:55, 0:35:56]: Yeah. [0:35:56, 0:35:59]: Um certainly I you know, I would love to see a C I D in the city. [0:36:00, 0:36:20]: Um I think we're well, well, well overdue here on the South Side. Um I think there's a number of steps that need to take place. Um I don't know what kind of seed money that would entail, um but I certainly would love to see us getting started with the enabling legislation this year, starting the conversations with those businesses [0:36:20, 0:36:32]: within that corridor that's being identified and then from there, you know, identify you know if there's something that's specific that comes up and it becomes time sensitive. And once again I would see that as certainly a um [0:36:32, 0:36:33]: A prudent [0:36:34, 0:36:54]: reason and rationale to go into fund balance for if there's something that was really pending that was going to be we have to drive economic development. But again that's another one of those economic development director duties that they would be assigned to of going through, interacting, meeting and and getting engaged with our business community to find out what because again ultimately we can push [0:36:54, 0:37:00]: all we want, but ultimately the businesses have to be the ones to sign on and agree to this [0:37:00, 0:37:02]: Um self imposed taxation. [0:37:02, 0:37:12]: Which you know, I think when you see'em, the ones that are all throughout Atlanta, they're certainly extremely successful. Um they've done very well. Um so I don't think there'd be a great deal of pushback. [0:37:13, 0:37:15]: But you know, but for [0:37:15, 0:37:18]: you know, just agreeing to attack yourself, so [0:37:18, 0:37:38]: I think it's a great idea. I'd love to see the advent of a CID come in place. I just think we're not quite at the point for budgeting as of this point yet. Yes, uh Mayor Plant. Um hopefully we can get in the com um conversation. Um one Henry is having this conversation in the same area. So hopefully we can have someone there. [0:37:38, 0:37:57]: um to listen to possibly get the input to bring back to us because they're having the conversation. Um we just need to be there present and involved in that. And I think that meeting is gonna be this Thursday again where they're gonna be discussing. And I think I did forward you that email um from them. So hopefully we can [0:37:57, 0:38:02]: um chime in on that so that way we'll know exactly you know [0:38:02, 0:38:22]: where we stand and when the economic development director does come on we'll have something, you know, tangible to be able to present to them. Um and also I guess timing is a thing for me because we've been speaking with the chamber. The chamber keeps saying they're ready to hear from us. So I just the delay is just my concern. [0:38:22, 0:38:42]: Um so hopefully we can if you know if Miss Braggs could you know speak with them so when the director does come on, again that's more information that we'll have to provide and it won't be like a starting over when we've already been having the conversation. [0:38:42, 0:38:56]: I think it's a good point. I think a vehicle like one Henry is a perfect vehicle to begin those conversations, engage in those conversations because typically that's made up of other business owners as well, so they can certainly speak from a business owner's perspective. [0:38:58, 0:38:59]: Any other comments? [0:38:59, 0:39:10]: Yes, just one more. I like to command council on uh Robinson for assembling not just the Henry County forces but the Clayton County forces and getting everybody at the table. [0:39:10, 0:39:30]: And understanding that the citizen partner I mean the the government from uh Clayton County is actually ahead of us. They have CIDs already in northern Henry County in the air I mean uh Clayton County in the airport area and from what I understand they already have the enabling legislation in hand in order to move [0:39:30, 0:39:35]: move forward with theirs. I just don't want us to be in a position where um [0:39:36, 0:39:56]: We're we're the we're the weak leaking the chain along Highway one hundred thirty eight and I think uh like you said like Councilwoman Robinson said during the time when the economic development director comes along, we wanna make sure that that t that uh is as tight as possible. Because it was great seeing everybody at the table and everybody wanting [0:39:56, 0:40:00]: the same things that we wanted. The Clayton partners really wanted what we wanted. [0:40:03, 0:40:05]: Any other comments? [0:40:06, 0:40:08]: Um I just want to commend this whole council. [0:40:09, 0:40:17]: Because these things that we're talking about, they've been s discussed by uh amongst us about what we want for this city. We want a cleaner city. [0:40:17, 0:40:19]: We want a better city. We want all of these things. [0:40:20, 0:40:21]: Um [0:40:24, 0:40:26]: This is a unique council. [0:40:26, 0:40:29]: And we got a unique situation and uh [0:40:31, 0:40:35]: When we ever insinuate or we make any kind of proclamations that [0:40:37, 0:40:43]: one council member up here may want something more than another. We all in this city benefit from all [0:40:43, 0:40:46]: decisions that are being made by every council member. [0:40:46, 0:40:49]: So I do. I commend m uh the passion [0:40:50, 0:40:56]: that Ms. Robinson has. I commend the passion that Ms. Gantt, Mr Ford, Mr Alexander and myself [0:40:56, 0:41:05]: Because whatever decisions we make that are good that's good for this city, we all have to come together and say yes because we all only have one vote. [0:41:06, 0:41:11]: So I thank each and every one of them for their compassion that we're all here to move this city forward. [0:41:12, 0:41:15]: All right. Thank you. Any other comments, questions? [0:41:15, 0:41:16]: Okay, so [0:41:17, 0:41:35]: On this issue and uh about the CID, we're gonna kinda put things on hold for a second until we get someone in place to work the issue. I also thought that we could not as a s as a as a municipal penalty here, we could not be raising money towards this. So this is uh so how's this gonna work with the economic director here? [0:41:35, 0:41:55]: Well, we wouldn't be raising money. I mean I think his role would be reaching out to the businesses within the identified corridor, sitting down with them and find and drumming up interests and finding out is there an interest something be something you'd be willing to do and and that being the initial step. Those conversations had been going on with Henry County and those [0:41:55, 0:42:03]: those companies for five, six years. Okay. So it does. It's it's it's a process that takes some time, certainly. [0:42:04, 0:42:19]: So we just this is uh on a back burner for just a brief moment for uh Yeah, I I think that the main thing is I don't what I don't hear is that there's there needs to be any any financial any any financing attributed to this, but there certainly are some human efforts that need to be put forth. [0:42:19, 0:42:22]: um as far as advancing this topic. [0:42:22, 0:42:23]: Okay. [0:42:23, 0:42:29]: So we can certainly take those steps and continue to work with one Henry and those groups. So All right. [0:42:30, 0:42:32]: All right. [0:42:32, 0:42:33]: What's the next subject? [0:42:33, 0:42:37]: Well, that was some of the main points that that [0:42:38, 0:42:58]: That I recall being brought up. I mean in in your packets also included the job descriptions, the org charts, um, the pay scales. Um we've had conversations about the positions already. I mean at the last meeting we've talked about the economic development position, we talked about the PIO position, obviously. Um so those are in there for your project. [0:42:58, 0:43:02]: purview that they've been on included with the um information that's on the website. [0:43:03, 0:43:03]: So [0:43:04, 0:43:05]: Um that that a [0:43:06, 0:43:23]: That's the totality of the comments that we've received in regards to um the current version of the budget at this point. If there's anything else that council members may have they wanna and other topics they wanna may want to discuss, uh Linda and I are certainly happy to address any questions that council may have, but [0:43:24, 0:43:25]: Anything else is there in the boat? [0:43:25, 0:43:26]: Okay. [0:43:26, 0:43:34]: I I just wanted to say one other thing. Real briefly. We did talk about the downtown master plan. [0:43:34, 0:43:49]: Yes. Is that correct? And then I think your reply was the funding was going to be split between twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. That's correct. Is there some reason that it's being split between the two? Because if there was something we were trying to move a forward with [0:43:50, 0:44:10]: Well I honestly because we anticipated taking at least a year, year plus. Okay, so it's an amount of time. Yeah, that's all it's a timing issue. We have by um by DCA regulations we have to update our comprehensive plan by October of twenty eighteen. So it's our intent to get started on that first quarter of this year to allow [0:44:10, 0:44:30]: For at least a year plus, because it is a long drawn-out process. Now, this is a deviation from what we've done previously, in which we've worked in in concert with the county with a joint county cities plan. I certainly think and recommend that we need to move forward with a city-specific plan. The comprehensive plan [0:44:30, 0:44:50]: The joint conference plan was a great tool, it's been a great document, certainly useful, but I think for the direction that this council has indicated they want to move in, I think having our own specific plan to address our specific city needs is is critical at this time. And I you know, you look at other other cities who have advanced um their vision in [0:44:49, 0:45:09]: their mission, they have that's a document they have in place. You know, that's a twenty year document that really dictates and guides how we're going to develop, how we're going to grow. You know, now that we've established how the council has established a vision, now putting a plan together that helps to implement that vision I think is critical on um on the city's standpoint. So that's something again that's a that's [0:45:09, 0:45:15]: That's a that's an endeavor that I'm really excited about. I think it's gonna really help um help advance [0:45:15, 0:45:33]: the initiatives of the city forward and that will have components in there like a down a master plan specific for the downtown, um comprehensive transportation plan. That component will be a part of that as well. So um but that's that's the rationale. The the fund set I think is a hundred thousand [0:45:33, 0:45:53]: that's been set aside for that ballpark. Um yeah, so we split it up fifty year and again, but it's not a uh deferring the project, it's getting the project started as quickly as possible. But it is going to take some time because again it involves a lot of um public uh input because what we're what this is will be the twenty year plan for the city. So it's you know [0:45:53, 0:46:00]: It's it's it's you we want to have input and buy in from the citizenry as well as um all those stakeholders, business owners. [0:46:01, 0:46:06]: um those that have any kind of a stake within the city of Stockbridge to be able to voice their their thoughts and opinions on it. [0:46:07, 0:46:08]: One one last thing. [0:46:09, 0:46:29]: Uh as far as to get as much information out to the citizens as possible. And I tell you you're doing a phenomenal job. And you uh uh sent us an email and I need to know I wanted to ask, is there any financial uh obligation that we need to put in place for the Rock Quarry Road Y [0:46:29, 0:46:31]: [2791.5, 2807.5]: I was inspired when I saw that and you s you talked about the plan and then actually making the widening happen. So financially, what is is there anything we need to do in the budget this year? That's a great point. No, not this year because there'll be [0:46:47, 0:47:07]: They're not looking for at least two to three years for construction anyways. We have some time and I think actually I think it will line up well with our next BLOS. Um but it's a great point to bring up. I think there will be it is a wholly a county project, um but I've been in conversation with the county representatives, with Rocky Romero, uh [0:47:07, 0:47:11]: Um there are components of the project that that that [0:47:12, 0:47:24]: From our standpoint I think we would like to see it would be benefit to see additional lighting, additional landscaping that's not currently included in the project. So those kind of um amenities and additions would be an add on. [0:47:25, 0:47:45]: And that would be something that the council for g would have to consider of you know set aside set it set it setting aside funds to add to that project, which again I think in this case be that is one of the gateways into our into our main downtown area, I think that's something that certainly something for the council to consider. But but that would mean that. But we it wouldn't have to be included in this budget. [0:47:45, 0:48:05]: because they're they're still doing design. There'll be I forget what the timeline was um but I don't I think they're starting they'll look at finalize the design by the end of next year, then they'll go into right away and that'll be about a year, um year plus. So I think eighteen nineteen is about to fall apart to talk about construction. So you know that's something we vote on the next [0:48:05, 0:48:25]: loss in twenty nineteen, I think it may very well line up well for an opportunity to be able to put some funding on that project for at that time. But it's not something that's immediately needed. But I certainly think making sure we keep the conversation fresh and make sure that they're clear on what our what it is we'd like to see and it's the fact that we would like to help contribute and not just a matter of [0:48:25, 0:48:30]: We want you to put it in but we're willing to come to the table with some funding to make sure to see these things um [0:48:30, 0:48:31]: Be at it. [0:48:32, 0:48:33]: Three point one. [0:48:33, 0:48:40]: Yes, go right here, sir. Really quick, since that widening project was brought up, uh we got uh a timeline, I think we got it from you. [0:48:40, 0:48:44]: Yes sir. [0:48:44, 0:48:49]: uh right away timeline. So it's gonna be during the final time of uh the the uh [0:48:49, 0:48:50]: For [0:48:50, 0:48:58]: when they're gonna be actually we we're gonna be in the last phase when we're gonna be able to have a meeting talking about where we're gonna put the [0:48:58, 0:49:18]: Track of lights, is that the last phase that we're going to be part of? Yeah, this was the initial concept meeting w as far as where the signals would be located. There will be a public outreach meeting and we're working with them on a location. We did one for the State Rock forty two widening some time back over at Ted Strickland. So we'd love to have it somewhere here as well, somewhere close by. [0:49:18, 0:49:38]: Our residents that are going to be impacted, they will have an opportunity to come out, look at the proposed plans, and then voice their opinion and say, hey, this is what we'd like to see. So right now we're making those comments. Again, the comments about the lighting and the landscaping, those are brought up there in that initial concept. So they they they note those those comments. What has not yet been determined? [0:49:38, 0:49:58]: As I shared with the council, the location of all the traffic segments are still in consideration. There's a couple different um intersections that are being considered at this point. So those are areas. And again, if the council has some specific um thoughts and feelings toward it, certainly, you know, you know, Miss Dana Lemon has been a uh advid. [0:49:58, 0:50:15]: um supporter of other cities and and that surely has helped in a number of number of areas so reaching out to her and letting those feelings be known if we have a uh a a feeling one way or the other I think that would be prude in our case. So if there are certain things that Council feels strongly about, you know feel free to let me know and I'll pass that on to G Dot. [0:50:17, 0:50:19]: Okay. Any questions on this side, ladies? [0:50:21, 0:50:21]: Okay. [0:50:22, 0:50:23]: Alright, so uh [0:50:24, 0:50:28]: So no more questions on the budget itself, then if that's the case. [0:50:29, 0:50:33]: If that's the c I need to open this up, I said earlier I need to open this up for public uh [0:50:34, 0:50:34]: Hearing [0:50:35, 0:50:38]: And for any comments uh from the audience if they have anything they need to [0:50:38, 0:50:40]: To mention to us all. [0:50:40, 0:50:42]: We'll start from my left side. [0:50:42, 0:50:44]: Okay, over here. Any comments over here from the public? [0:50:46, 0:50:46]: Saying none. [0:50:47, 0:50:48]: It comes right here in the middle. [0:50:50, 0:50:52]: Saying none and there's no one over to the right. So [0:50:52, 0:50:54]: On that note, I'll close the public. [0:50:54, 0:50:55]: Comments. [0:50:56, 0:51:16]: And uh if there's no other comments on reference to the budget hearing, I'll close that. Mayor Fortin. Yes, ma'am. One moment. Um under our budget our two job title, occupational to um community development director as well as the economic development director. Is that correct? That's correct. Okay. Um in regards to that basically. [0:51:16, 0:51:36]: Basically we are putting together a new position which is an economic development director and we're gonna keep the community development director but based off of staff recommendation and other I mean the the need and and again with the retreats that we've had in the past two or three years [0:51:35, 0:51:47]: we've also requested a PIO officer. Um I know there have been discussions on it in the past and we continue to discuss it and I'm gonna continue to express the need [0:51:47, 0:51:48]: For it. [0:51:49, 0:52:05]: Um whether it's someone from in house, out house, I it it doesn't matter. The concern to me is that we don't have an PIO officer um currently and the need has been expressed through our staff admin team. [0:52:06, 0:52:14]: And here we are adding the economic development director position to include when I look at the job description [0:52:14, 0:52:19]: um you know, marketing for the Merl Manders Conference Center. [0:52:19, 0:52:32]: under Economic Development Director, but yet on the Community Development Director, if you look on the OR chart, we have code enforcement officers, GIS planner, and occupational tax. [0:52:33, 0:52:53]: clerk. And I'm thinking these are two positions that we it sounds kind of confusing that we really probably need to discuss a little bit more detailed on one. And secondly, I still think that council should consider a PIO, a PR person for the city of Stockbridge. I think you uh [0:52:52, 0:53:12]: um are making we would be making a mistake by not hiring a PR officer um at this time. Um it is to promote the city. It does she he or she would do more than just advertise our events. This is something we need for the media. This is something that helps and promotes everything. [0:53:12, 0:53:18]: economic development. So I just ask that we again consider that. [0:53:19, 0:53:20]: Okay. Um [0:53:21, 0:53:25]: The E economic development director has some duties and responsibilities to uh [0:53:26, 0:53:28]: to deal with the public and to uh [0:53:28, 0:53:30]: handle those type of um [0:53:30, 0:53:50]: branding a website and all types of things that deal with a like a public administration officer would do. I would think that would be that would be suffice for the time being anyway. The community uh the community development director um it's a slight change in that job description and I'll have to wanna actually have [0:53:50, 0:54:10]: uh Michael Harris um explain a little a little bit more about that as well. Um but I personally think the PIO it can come i i maybe the next round or the next year. I understand we talked about it in retreats, but I think there's something that uh if we hire the economic development director, that individual can handle that for at least this year and and handle what we have what we need. [0:54:10, 0:54:13]: You gotta understand too that uh that the the uh [0:54:14, 0:54:34]: Main Street, along with uh Mr Harris's assistant and along with uh uh some things that our assistant does, they handle some of those public relations type things and of course it's uh Mr Harris has has is has involvement in that as well. So I I just personally think that that is not uh PIO for right now is [0:54:34, 0:54:40]: That's not needed. It's my personal thought on that. But obviously that's open to council discussion as well. Um [0:54:40, 0:54:48]: Community d uh development director, it this um this is slightly different than what has been what is occ what has been previously [0:54:48, 0:54:55]: designed on our on our diagram uh for the job description. Would you want to elaborate on that here, Mr. Harris, a little bit, please? [0:54:56, 0:55:08]: I'm sorry, which part? Uh the community uh development director and reference to the the the the per s the the individual and their duties and responsibilities is is changed from the uh previous [0:55:08, 0:55:11]: position uh that we've had [0:55:11, 0:55:31]: And you made some changes here, a recommendation for changes, I should say. Yeah, we scaled it back some. You know, previously there was a again this ad administration and community services position um under which fell a variety of of departments, code enforcement, um J is planning [0:55:31, 0:55:34]: [3335.7, 3336.6]: Um [0:55:37, 0:55:41]: and event coordinator and the thought now would be to [0:55:41, 0:55:44]: um segregate some of those duties. [0:55:45, 0:56:00]: and under the community development side, um just keep that to the code enforcement, GIS, and you notice a shift of the occupational tax clerk from under the clerks over to this to this section as well. [0:56:00, 0:56:03]: Now in so doing what we propose is um [0:56:04, 0:56:05]: Slightly downgrading [0:56:06, 0:56:14]: the position as far as the pay, obviously it's less duties, less responsibilities, so a downgrade in the um in the um [0:56:14, 0:56:16]: in the pay grade, but [0:56:16, 0:56:18]: We think this is a more realistic [0:56:19, 0:56:20]: Uh [0:56:20, 0:56:24]: scope of of of responsibilities for that position. [0:56:24, 0:56:44]: You know, certain something something I wanna look at exploring as we go forward, um what we're going to do. You know, now we have a zone advisory board. There is uh functions and associated with um administering and and and and assisting that board as well that that come into play here. Um so they'll [0:56:44, 0:57:04]: Those will be kind of the focus of those duties. The economic development side, a lot of that would be those so again, some of those very things we spoke about earlier this evening, working with while our Main Street um office is kind of confined to the ma the boundaries of the Main Street department and they work on generating retaining [0:57:04, 0:57:11]: training, bringing in businesses within that area, economic development would be throughout all of the the city. So [0:57:12, 0:57:21]: While Main Street has that segment, the economic development would have the remainder of of the r of the of the other cities helping again to attract, to retain businesses. [0:57:21, 0:57:36]: Also, they would serve as a principal liaison between the downtown development authority and then those functions and duties. And you know, there was some question as as far as, you know, should conference center manager be under economic development director [0:57:37, 0:57:42]: Um Renee and I met and discussed this um today and and last week as well. [0:57:43, 0:58:03]: You know, and there's there's a number of jurisdictions. She did a a great deal of research and looking at some other jurisdictions um to to determine, you know, how is it? Is there one thing, is there one way that it's typically is and it it varies. You know, in some cases, you know, you have those that that you know, those people are reporting and some cases are reporting to uh community development. [0:58:03, 0:58:06]: In some cases they're reporting to economic development. So [0:58:06, 0:58:13]: I think every municipality's gonna look at it look at their own unique situation to make determination of what's a better fit for us. [0:58:14, 0:58:26]: you know, in some cases the six of one, half a dozen of the other. I I I think it you know, it it's a great thing if we have some really some some very professional, very capable um department heads. [0:58:27, 0:58:37]: that surely makes any of these decisions easier. But I think overall looking at all those things that you know, I I remember talking to um the former [0:58:37, 0:58:57]: um development authority official at the county and you know one of his favorite lines was, you know, people would ask him, what is economic development? Everything is economic development. It's it's it's it's it's it's not just business attraction and business retention, but it's it's it's police services, what's offered. It's your sanitation and your public works are [0:58:57, 0:59:06]: services, it's the beautification of your city, it's all those things that combine. You know, it's in some cases the events, the um quality of life issues that play into a community. So [0:59:06, 0:59:26]: Um from that standpoint certainly see the correlation between the events in the Main Street um under the economic development. So that's we'll pass the rationale. One man's opinion. So right here please. So your recommendation is stated that we just [0:59:26, 0:59:46]: just have the economic development director. Is that what you're saying? Your recommendation? No, I still feel and I I I expressed at the last meeting that a PIO is is a necessary position. And I think the PIO is a necessary position for the things that are going on right now. Um I think when we did I think we did have some conversations at the at the last retreat in regards to [0:59:46, 1:00:06]: uh the need based on a number of events that we're doing right now and uh how much information we want to be able to get out to to folks. Um y you know, certainly having that component and having that that person uh dedicated toward that goal um with the and everything that goes along with the PIO I think it's something that [1:00:06, 1:00:19]: that for a jurisdiction our size and with the robust calendar that we're maintaining, I think it warrants it. And again I've said that before and I I'll continue to say that. Certainly we will adhere to the the council's wishes, but um [1:00:20, 1:00:20]: Um [1:00:21, 1:00:33]: You know, so and w and we have we've gone through we have um job descriptions, same thing. We've looked at other jurisdictions, uh some similar size, some smaller than ours that have that component in place. [1:00:33, 1:00:42]: And you know, and I think it it it certainly yields benefits and and pays for itself over time just by getting information out and again as it stands, right now we are doing things by committee. [1:00:43, 1:00:44]: And while [1:00:44, 1:00:48]: You know, sometimes you know, I I I I share with staff sometimes I said, you know, sometimes we're just [1:00:49, 1:00:54]: Staff is just too good at what they do, you know, because it doesn't it seem because it comes across looking so seamless. [1:00:55, 1:01:08]: You know, but certainly between the executive assistants, um, Miss Ide, Miss Robinson, Miss Holliday and her staff, you know, things continue to get cranked out but but not for a creating a a strain in other areas, certainly something [1:01:08, 1:01:13]: gets pushed back, you know, when those things are are are picked back up. Um and again it's [1:01:14, 1:01:34]: We are a council now that is doing if you go back two, three years ago, we weren't doing nearly the number of events that we're currently doing now. Um and and and again and and it's good. I mean, you know, again the food truck, we didn't anticipate it coming last year and I've said this before, but it was one of the f far far and away one of the most successful events that the city's [1:01:33, 1:01:34]: [3695.0, 3715.0]: You know, and I see where I see people are now. They continue to speak about oh, you know, it's great, it's great to be able to come out. I saw people I hadn't seen since high school. And those are the kind of things you really want. So again, that goes back to economic development, you know, feeling safe, feeling a sense of community within your community. Those are important aspects and and having somebody's able to really truly capture all those things and [1:01:55, 1:01:58]: put it out in the manner that that that really helps to to [1:01:59, 1:02:19]: to to to let the city shine and people know about the the attributes of the city, I think is certainly important in attracting businesses, you know, from an economic development standpoint as well. I think it plays a number of roles, but and it would be proposed that that PIO, not sure exactly where it would be stated, I think we proposed it previously as um being linked with economic development for that reason because again I think [1:02:19, 1:02:21]: I think it does play play into economic development. [1:02:22, 1:02:24]: Yeah, telling our story. [1:02:24, 1:02:32]: One second, are you you still have a comment? I won't. So you're saying we need a PIO, we need an economic develop development director and a community. [1:02:33, 1:02:36]: Well, uh when I you say and a community, that's that's a [1:02:36, 1:02:50]: We're filling that position. We've taken the existing position. So that's that's three positions. Well it's really two new positions. Right, but we ha we're refilling the community developer which was already there. Yes. Um [1:02:55, 1:03:04]: I'm just trying to understand, even with that, I mean every it plays a piece. I know you're saying we're doing a lot of different events but even with those events [1:03:05, 1:03:21]: I mean, we're saying concerts, I mean we have, you know, C C C the that are that staff that's over there who's doing a great job. So I'm just trying to understand where the strain is because like I know with my initiatives some of the events are not [1:03:22, 1:03:33]: you know, taken a lot away from someone having to do because it's done either through C C them over there or just something smaller that is being done. So, you know [1:03:34, 1:03:52]: I'm leaning toward like Mayor Pro Tem said. We just see what we have in twenty seventeen once we get the Economic Development Director in place and then in that way we'll know if we need to revisit that or to you know we'll we'll need that addition. But I do feel that we do have some of the staff that [1:03:53, 1:04:13]: you know, can pick up some some parts of the s you know, that's slack that's needed. Um'cause they're doing a great job, but I just don't see a lot of the strain. I guess I'm trying to see that. Um like I said, I was there basically every Tuesday but it's more [1:04:13, 1:04:13]: Or [1:04:14, 1:04:20]: Great events, but the longer it went, that was when the strain came in. So we've you know [1:04:20, 1:04:40]: brought that down some so I guess being able to look at it um once we get the economic development director we can go back and revisit. So you know and I'll and I'll say in in and and she's not here to speak and I'm not gonna try to speak for her but certainly the executive director to mayor and council I think she presented during the the retreat and kinda gave her take on um [1:04:40, 1:04:41]: Mm. [1:04:41, 1:04:44]: Things other th y you know, I don't know if it's it's just [1:04:44, 1:05:04]: how she's able to to to function on from a day to day and with those things that she may be able to to continue to enhance some of the services she's able to provide, if not for having to do some other things. And I again obviously I can speak with her directly on on her thoughts on it, but I I know that was some of the conversation that took place during the retreat. I know she and I had some [1:05:04, 1:05:10]: But didn't we give her an assistant? She she brought someone in. [1:05:11, 1:05:31]: She had an internship, but she's had a baby. Okay, so can we find someone that can possibly go a l long term, you know, that we can that possibly can fill in for that? We have a great internship program. Renee's been heading up. Um that's something we've been able to tap into and utilize, and we continue to utilize. We've got some great [1:05:31, 1:05:32]: Great interns that we've had, so [1:05:33, 1:05:50]: That that means that that's what I think. You know, was that intern. But you know, but if it's short term [1:05:50, 1:05:53]: it it's gonna be that way. So hopefully we can get someone in place [1:05:53, 1:05:55]: Until we can, you know [1:05:55, 1:06:00]: iron out and see what twenty seventeen is gonna bring with our economic development director. [1:06:00, 1:06:03]: Mayor Proton. Ms. Anna first. [1:06:04, 1:06:06]: Fir first of all, I I think [1:06:06, 1:06:07]: It's just like [1:06:08, 1:06:08]: This [1:06:08, 1:06:13]: And um I think we can all agree that the position [1:06:13, 1:06:19]: Uh we w we want to endeavor to get there. And that's why we talked about doing a two or a three year plan. [1:06:20, 1:06:24]: And this is the way that I break it down so everybody understands. [1:06:25, 1:06:29]: It's just like when you have splash dollars to build a fire station. [1:06:30, 1:06:35]: It pays for the fire station, but it does not pay for the employees. [1:06:36, 1:06:41]: This is a situation where we're bringing on an economic development director out. [1:06:41, 1:06:44]: position that we all agree will generate revenue. [1:06:45, 1:06:47]: and bolster the treasurer. [1:06:48, 1:06:52]: in such a way that we hope that it generates the dollars to create [1:06:52, 1:07:12]: the additional funding for the PIO. So I don't think any of us disagree that at some point we want to do that. But the bottom line is, you know, we just had heard the argument that we don't want to be outside the budget. There's a big difference between the items that we're talking about. The previous items that we talked about were one time items. [1:07:12, 1:07:13]: Yeah. [1:07:14, 1:07:22]: hiring an economic development director and and hiring a PIO, that position continues eternally. [1:07:23, 1:07:43]: So you have to fund it every single year from now on. So I challenge, as I said previously, this entire board to work toward that and have some agreement, maybe in twenty eighteen budget, that we could probably go ahead and add that position, but all of us up here need to take some accountability for the [1:07:42, 1:08:02]: events that we have now to bring some sponsorships to the table and and lower that burden so as is not to to be overwhelming. But the bottom line is these two positions we're making the choice for this year and then adding the PIO for the following year. I'm in agreement [1:08:02, 1:08:03]: [4084.7, 4085.0]: Okay. [1:08:05, 1:08:07]: Mayor Purton, thank you. [1:08:08, 1:08:14]: A PIO officer is a communications officer, so to speak, and it's a specialty there. [1:08:14, 1:08:18]: More so about branding, branding our community [1:08:19, 1:08:39]: along with working hand in hand with that economic development director. We've heard it from our staff. We've heard it from admin. We've heard it from people who've been working in the municipal government for years. Mr Harris worked in the county for years. We've heard that this is a need. We go to our retreats and it's number one or number two on our [1:08:39, 1:08:48]: list of top priorities and then we push it off to the side and put other things in its place instead of getting our foundation together. [1:08:48, 1:09:06]: for a PIO officer. I'm saying that we should have both. We made I don't want to say in the state, but what we did with our community development director, to me it was another name for an assistant city manager with a lot of jobs and responsibilities behind it. [1:09:07, 1:09:18]: And I don't wanna make that same mistake this time again. What I would like to see happen is if we're gonna go, we've already discussed that one of our main priorities is is branding the city. [1:09:19, 1:09:30]: Um, we're looking at we've went over our mission statement, we've done certain things, and then we say, Oh, we're gonna have an economic development director and then we give them job descriptions. [1:09:30, 1:09:45]: two, three pages long and then put under him the conference center, the main street, the program assistant, and you put different things and then you get community development director and you put the code enforcement, GI S GIS planner, an occupational tax. [1:09:46, 1:10:06]: Well, what happens then? What happens when you have um people out there writing stories about Stockbridge? Not just about their events, but about what's going on and they're not necessarily helping us. They're damaging us. We need damage control. We have other cities, we have smaller municipalities who [1:10:06, 1:10:16]: have those PR officers. And if a person who's an expert or who has their we we hired our staff, our team to give us these recommendations. [1:10:17, 1:10:22]: Each one of us n none of us have those expertise. I'm not a communication specialist. [1:10:22, 1:10:33]: So I say that if they're stating that that's one of the number one things and we agreed on it at the retreat then we need to go and this has been going on for two, three years now. [1:10:33, 1:10:46]: that we need to really strongly consider that. Whether we take off community development director or we add, you know, a that officer there, I just think that is extremely important and it's something that should not be overlooked. [1:10:48, 1:10:49]: Mr Blonde, go right here, please. [1:10:49, 1:10:54]: Yeah, I believe the quickest way to resolve a problem is to listen to the people that are closest to it. [1:10:55, 1:10:58]: If the staff is saying that we need a PIO, then I'm for it. [1:10:59, 1:11:02]: Because we can sit up here and make all the suggestions and make all the account. [1:11:02, 1:11:09]: You know, all the all the accusations about this and that, all we want to, but if the people that are closest to the problem say they that's what is needed [1:11:09, 1:11:11]: And even this council is uh [1:11:11, 1:11:20]: is openly said discontinuously. Uh we want the city branded, we want the city promoted. Uh even tonight we saying, hey, we're talking about promoting the city. [1:11:21, 1:11:33]: So if we put a person in a position that's what they're doing, promoting the city but if we don't have that position in place then we will have to say, Hey, that uh did this person do it, did that person do it, did this person do it? We have one person to go to to say, Hey [1:11:34, 1:11:38]: Are you branding the city? Are you showing what the city is all about? [1:11:38, 1:11:43]: And if this and if the if the staff's saying this is what they need then this this council should [1:11:43, 1:11:45]: step forward and say, let's give it to them because [1:11:46, 1:11:49]: If we don't put our own person out there we're gonna be listening to rhetoric [1:11:50, 1:12:00]: from now on that that may be false or or true, true or false, but uh w we're out there we're just out there on the limb. I was just down in McDonald uh a couple of weeks ago. [1:12:01, 1:12:08]: uh down in the square and they got plaques saying uh you know what uh whatever happens in stockbridge winds up on the new winds up on the news. [1:12:09, 1:12:16]: They're selling these plaques. I mean so we need to put our city in a position where it is a positive [1:12:16, 1:12:21]: There's a positive vibe about stock bridge and we don't do it by trying to [1:12:21, 1:12:27]: overload other people that are that are in these other positions. We put a person in position to make this city look like it's supposed to look. [1:12:29, 1:12:31]: [4351.8, 4365.1]: So right now, um seems though that uh at least this I I think in a way, that uh the PIO is is not gonna make this particular cut at this particular reading, i i in my interpretation anyway. [1:12:45, 1:12:47]: Uh so um let's go there. [1:12:48, 1:12:51]: Is that a consensus? [1:12:51, 1:12:55]: I think I'm in agreement with that that the PO is not uh uh doesn't make the cut. [1:12:56, 1:13:00]: I think Councilwoman Robinson is and and uh Councilman Alexander is. [1:13:02, 1:13:17]: Okay, what's next sir? There is one other one last item. I just briefly want to go through we've talked about the general fund budget and I think it's important j just to let and just kinda go through it quickly, just the special revenue fund and enterprise fund, that's our water sewer sanitation. [1:13:17, 1:13:22]: Just so I've got and that's also out there on the website, but just so for the um [1:13:23, 1:13:28]: Council on public certification. I'm just gonna go walk through it real quick. Uh first one's hotel motel. [1:13:29, 1:13:29]: Um [1:13:30, 1:13:46]: Proposed budget for twenty seventeen. For twenty sixteen there was one hundred and twenty thousand. Proposed budget for twenty seventeen is two hundred and twenty five thousand. And a lot of that is one we have new hotels coming online and we also uh the uh that also reflects the increase from five to eight percent. [1:13:46, 1:13:50]: Um capital projects, C D B G [1:13:50, 1:13:55]: Um funds. One hundred and fifty was budgeted in twenty sixteen, another hundred and fifty is budgeted for twenty seventeen. [1:13:56, 1:13:58]: We're working with them now on on a series of projects. [1:13:59, 1:14:04]: Um, involving s both sidewalks and more inclusive playground equipment. [1:14:05, 1:14:13]: Um urban redevelopment agency um it's stays consistent and this is the loan that repays the debt service on the city hall building. [1:14:13, 1:14:17]: And that's been consistent at one point two over the last number of years. [1:14:17, 1:14:19]: Downtown development authority. [1:14:20, 1:14:24]: Um forty five thousand as was discussed at the previous meeting. [1:14:24, 1:14:29]: Cemetery fund, three hundred and fifty dollars, which has been consistent over the last number of years. [1:14:29, 1:14:38]: Uh water and sewer uh budgeted in sixteen was three point zero million and for seventeen budgeted as three point two million. [1:14:39, 1:14:41]: Um stormwater. [1:14:41, 1:14:45]: uh adopted in twenty sixteen seven hundred and sixty six [1:14:45, 1:15:05]: Mil uh seven hundred six thousand and budgeted proposed in twenty seventeen, one point zero five seven. Some of that change is from the new personnel that was added that came from sanitation, which is the next line item, that went from one point six million in twenty sixteen down to one point three. A lot of that was the shift in personnel. [1:15:05, 1:15:10]: personnel from sanitation up into the uh stormwater department. So [1:15:10, 1:15:12]: That's why we're able to not [1:15:12, 1:15:16]: lose any positions when that when the privatization took place. [1:15:17, 1:15:25]: Uh Merrill Manders from three hundred and thirty nine thousand uh to uh two hundred and thirty one and that's one of the supplemented funds that we talked about at the last um [1:15:25, 1:15:26]: meeting as well. [1:15:27, 1:15:32]: And Ted Strickland, uh thirty four thousand last year, thirty four thousand two hundred and fifty this year. [1:15:32, 1:15:33]: So again this is a [1:15:34, 1:15:37]: These are the enterprise funds, which is in essence those funds that [1:15:37, 1:15:43]: pay for themselves, water, sewers, sanitation, stormwater and the like. Um just wanted to [1:15:45, 1:15:51]: speak on it, let you know and and say it for public record in case there's any question. But pretty much it stayed [1:15:53, 1:15:54]: You know, overall [1:15:55, 1:16:04]: budgeted in sixteen was seven point three, um in seventeen seven point five. I mean so minimal minimal change to our enterprise funds. [1:16:05, 1:16:06]: Yeah. [1:16:07, 1:16:10]: Yes sir. Do you have a comment or something? [1:16:10, 1:16:12]: I don't when I'm looking at this chart [1:16:12, 1:16:16]: What how much uh how many code enforcement [1:16:17, 1:16:20]: Citations have been issued and where is that on here? [1:16:21, 1:16:33]: The number of citations or the dollar amount that they generated. I don't see I see a negative I think it's a negative two thousand dollars. Are they s are they citing folks? Uh with these violations that were [1:16:33, 1:16:36]: Yeah, th they they they are. I mean it's not [1:16:37, 1:16:42]: Not a huge number, but I think it's gonna be captured in the fines and forfeitures on the [1:16:53, 1:16:55]: But there is not many soldiers. [1:16:57, 1:17:17]: And see see to me that that's the problem when we're talking about getting things done. Well when you see the minus ten thousand, that's in the revenue. So that means that's money that's that's revenue that's coming in, it's anticipated at ten thousand. So on those first two pages, page one of twenty one and two of twenty one, those are anticipated revenue. You see everything under there is [1:17:17, 1:17:21]: as a negative, but that's just simply those are revenues we anticipate coming in. [1:17:22, 1:17:25]: I don't want you to mean I don't want you to interpret that as meaning [1:17:25, 1:17:28]: Well we're losing ten thousand? No, that's [1:17:28, 1:17:36]: No I huge number. No, well I heard what Miss Labor said. Well we haven't recovered any money. So that [1:17:36, 1:17:43]: Right. Linda Linda come. [1:17:43, 1:18:02]: On North Emory Boulevard, why haven't we recovered uh any uh site at these owners for these transgressions and ten thousand that's shown for this year. Yeah, for twenty seventeen. We did budget for um code enforcement tickets as ten thousand dollars revenue. [1:18:02, 1:18:04]: Okay, what was it actually? [1:18:04, 1:18:07]: No we haven't. No, we haven't had any. [1:18:08, 1:18:23]: So we had ten thousand dollars both of the five. And less it's coming through on the funds, like what you said to begin with. Right. I think that's the only place it would be captured any of the funds. Okay. I I don't know we can go back and find that information, um but [1:18:24, 1:18:44]: You know, when they have fines, I know we've had some there's been I know of a couple uh issues with uh illegal dumping that was caught and some other ones and what those fines were. The challenge we have is sometimes those are um allowed for community service and that's been something that we've been working with the courts now to to [1:18:44, 1:19:04]: to help. If if it's going to go from a fine to allowance allowance for community service, and in those cases we had some of those conversations a couple weeks back, we wanna we're working with the courts now to make sure those community services ours are served here in the city of Stockbridge. That's we've met with the judge as well as the solicitor. [1:19:04, 1:19:19]: to put that in place. That was hopeful we'd have it in place last year but just didn't get the community service personnel. And then with the loss of the um the state violations and those being sent to state court, obviously that made a big had a big tremendous impact. [1:19:20, 1:19:40]: It it's kind of a either or situation as like you said, if it's not gonna v be defined and they are actually contributing to helping us clean up North Henry Boulevard, so we have a timetable at some at some point they are gonna be here in Stockbridge, the judge give us a timetable? Yeah, we we had the initial meeting month or two ago. [1:19:40, 1:19:41]: Yeah. [1:19:42, 1:19:50]: Yeah, and um we used to go back and revisit that and and and and had that in place. Uh it's just something else on the list. [1:19:50, 1:19:50]: Yeah, Proto. [1:19:51, 1:19:55]: Oh yeah. No. Once yeah, are you you done sir? Go right go right here. [1:19:56, 1:19:57]: Um [1:19:57, 1:20:00]: Speaking of code enforcement officers, uh I I would like [1:20:01, 1:20:03]: Because I want to put the perception out there with the citizens that [1:20:04, 1:20:08]: they are doing a really good job. Um, I think it was almost two weeks ago. [1:20:09, 1:20:11]: Um T. D. Johnson. [1:20:11, 1:20:14]: uh over off of uh Spear Road. [1:20:14, 1:20:19]: Um I saw him over there. Uh someone had did some illegal dumping. [1:20:19, 1:20:24]: on the side of the road, about two large dump truckloads. [1:20:24, 1:20:29]: And T D literally went through that trash to find some [1:20:30, 1:20:32]: um addresses that would match [1:20:33, 1:20:36]: um to the dumping. Um I was out there with them. [1:20:37, 1:20:44]: And he ac literally went to Atlanta, found a person, and that person now is going uh is being uh [1:20:44, 1:20:47]: So, [1:20:48, 1:20:56]: They're out there doing a great job. This was illegal dumping that he went the extra mile and I'm say to you, uh, Madam Clerk [1:20:57, 1:21:02]: For me, I would like to get him an accommodation for what he did going beyond the call of duty. [1:21:02, 1:21:08]: uh si outside the city limits and actually tracking down the people that were doing illegal dumping in the city of Stockbridge. [1:21:15, 1:21:16]: You know the comments? [1:21:18, 1:21:19]: Okay. [1:21:20, 1:21:21]: So we have [1:21:21, 1:21:24]: I have a republic hearing for the budget then. [1:21:25, 1:21:26]: Okay. [1:21:27, 1:21:29]: So council discussion. Mr. Harris. [1:21:30, 1:21:33]: deals with uh a bunch of annexations things to talk to us about. [1:21:39, 1:21:46]: These these are discussion items. Um these are items that we have talked about and in some cases we have already done them. Um [1:21:47, 1:22:07]: And I'm gonna kinda lump them to th it's really two items. The first being the annexation of Carriage Lake. We've had that conversation previously um with the council, with the residents. It was here I think at the last meeting we discussed it. And the second part of this is the rezoning that accompanies it. We talked about what we had [1:22:07, 1:22:15]: to go back and actually go through a rezoning process as well because the the uh the property was previously zoned as [1:22:15, 1:22:16]: Um [1:22:17, 1:22:20]: Uh PTD, Plantown Development. [1:22:20, 1:22:25]: And and we don't have that designation here in the city of Stockbridge, so [1:22:26, 1:22:28]: With that being said, we had to [1:22:30, 1:22:30]: Um [1:22:31, 1:22:33]: Yeah, here it is right here. It's pulled it up on the screen. [1:22:34, 1:22:52]: You can see this is the area of Carriage Lake. Um the adjacent areas are actually in the city. Carriage Lake is not in the city. Um so we've had we've been working with them for a number of years. Um we finally got to the point where they've met all the requirements. [1:22:52, 1:22:55]: Um by sixty percent method. [1:22:55, 1:22:59]: which requires sixty percent of the property owners as well as sixty percent of the registered voters. [1:22:59, 1:23:19]: Um that has taken place. We've gotten the paperwork. We have sent the notification, necessary notifications to the city, and the final step was going through the rezoning process. We're doing that now. We had a hearing yesterday with the Stockbridge Zoning Advisory Board. Um they heard the item and they recommended approval for both the annexation and the rezoning. [1:23:19, 1:23:39]: rezoning um that'll be drawn up and sent to the council prior to you you all hearing it on the sixteenth. So this is just a brief discussion more so kind of keep you up to date on the process, what's taking place and what's going to be coming forward. So everything is still moving along, everything is still moving forward. We are still tracking to be there on December 16th for the final for the final [1:23:39, 1:23:45]: [5026.1, 5033.2]: One simple question. Go right here, sir. Do they immediately come into the city upon our vote? Is there they're immediately in at that point? [1:23:55, 1:23:58]: Okay, that'd be great. Thank you. [1:24:00, 1:24:10]: So on that note then uh we do that on the sixteenth of December, so automatically seventeenth of December I guess that would be no, I'm sorry, twelfth December, I'm sorry. Twelve December. [1:24:11, 1:24:19]: It's when we may take their vote. Well, right now it's scheduled for the sixteenth and I know that's something you want to see if we can adjust that time frame or not, so we'll take a look at that. [1:24:19, 1:24:29]: Uh right now it's the sixteenth. Okay, so I was like the first time. Yeah. All right. And then so effectively the next day and basically or the next work day, uh official work day, I suppose. Okay. [1:24:30, 1:24:38]: All right. And this means we're taking care of the street lights, right? I had to ask I had to ask that question. All right. Yes sir. Thank you very much. [1:24:40, 1:24:50]: Okay. Okay. All right. The next one is and again I'm going to lump these all together as well. This is the annexation. You all have heard this. [1:24:50, 1:24:55]: Um some time back we thought we were completed with this, but um [1:24:55, 1:25:02]: Um we have had to go back and re s and and again re annex the property. [1:25:02, 1:25:05]: I pulled it up on the map, you can kinda see [1:25:05, 1:25:08]: What's taking place? It is it involves [1:25:08, 1:25:10]: Well, I can use the arrow for here. [1:25:11, 1:25:27]: Um this is the majority of the property, the hundred and fifty eight point six five plus minus acres. Um this is currently zone um P D as well plan development and so this parcel will require a both an annexation and a rezoning. [1:25:28, 1:25:31]: the front parcels here [1:25:32, 1:25:52]: are already zoned commercial, I believe, so they do not need to go through a rezoning only in annexation. Um and the new piece is located right here. You can see where the arrow is. And this is the piece that um commonly known as the Hardy's piece. The concern previously was [1:25:52, 1:25:53]: Um we annex [1:25:54, 1:25:56]: Which we still to this day feel rightfully [1:25:56, 1:25:57]: From this point [1:25:58, 1:26:00]: across to this adjacent point. [1:26:00, 1:26:07]: You know, as you can see the right of way has been blocked out, which is allowable and the green area is actually GDAP property, which is also not taken into account so [1:26:08, 1:26:09]: Um we [1:26:09, 1:26:12]: do then and do now, continue to believe that [1:26:12, 1:26:14]: This land is contiguous to this land. [1:26:15, 1:26:19]: Um however the judge ruled that he would like to see it more of a ninety degree angle. [1:26:20, 1:26:35]: Um we met with reached dog met with the property owner here. They were agreeable so that annexation request has gone forward. Um so this would give us a annexation directly from this large property across to that property. [1:26:36, 1:26:45]: Um so we feel that every every requirement has been met been met at this point. We have had conversations with the count with the county [1:26:46, 1:26:48]: And they've indicated that um [1:26:48, 1:26:52]: If that piece does come in, piece on the east side. [1:26:52, 1:26:59]: and they don't foresee any objections taking place. At this point we send a thirty day letter, notification letter to the county on November tenth. [1:27:00, 1:27:02]: So our thirty day time period would would um [1:27:03, 1:27:18]: come to a close on december tenth. At which point if there's been no object and raise, we'll pro we'll proceed with um whatever next steps need to take place, I guess. At that point it's annexed in and that's it and it's we just proceed forward. Alright. So [1:27:18, 1:27:31]: If you have any questions, happy to address them. Also a representative from for the um property owner and the applicant is here, Mr. Adam Price. If you have any questions, specific questions regarding the project or the process, I'd be happy to address them. All right. Any questions anybody? [1:27:31, 1:27:33]: But [1:27:34, 1:27:35]: The parcel [1:27:35, 1:27:36]: To the north. [1:27:37, 1:27:39]: on Joe Dakota was not it's uh [1:27:40, 1:27:40]: Right there. [1:27:41, 1:27:41]: Sure. [1:27:41, 1:27:43]: That small strip. [1:27:43, 1:27:46]: Yes. Okay. Was any adjustment made to that? [1:27:46, 1:27:51]: No. Um yeah. I'm due to address that piece. [1:27:56, 1:27:59]: Good to see you guys again. Finally. [1:27:59, 1:28:01]: Uh that little strip [1:28:02, 1:28:05]: is not on the annexation. [1:28:05, 1:28:06]: Following. [1:28:06, 1:28:14]: There are three pieces on the on this annexation filing. What I believe is gonna happen, the Chevron piece, which is actually wedged between [1:28:15, 1:28:19]: The Amin property, which is the corner here, which is a small piece. [1:28:20, 1:28:32]: And the chevron. The chevron is not included either because my client had to get them to redo their signatures and in time to get all this file back, we weren't required to have it yet. [1:28:32, 1:28:38]: Correct me if I'm wrong. So he's gonna do that later. You're gonna see that little small piece come in later. [1:28:38, 1:28:40]: For this exact same process. [1:28:42, 1:28:44]: But the small piece across the street [1:28:45, 1:28:49]: Which I guess the judge ruled was not large enough. [1:28:50, 1:28:51]: Uh [1:28:52, 1:28:56]: My client is getting that piece under control for May and Carter Oil. [1:28:57, 1:29:06]: And probably not official probably is going to donate it to the city. If you guys want to put welcome to Stockbridge signage on it, I'm sure. [1:29:07, 1:29:22]: There would be no adverse reaction to that. It might even be appropriate. But uh uh but I hope that answers your question about that small piece. [1:29:23, 1:29:24]: Yeah. [1:29:24, 1:29:26]: If I got any other questions there for [1:29:27, 1:29:30]: Alan, okay no? All right. Thank you, sir. [1:29:30, 1:29:31]: Thank you. [1:29:34, 1:29:43]: That was it. As noted, this will be back to the council for a vote on as it stands right now, December sixteenth, if that should change, we'll certainly make that public to everyone. [1:29:44, 1:29:44]: All right. [1:29:46, 1:29:47]: Okay, on that note then um [1:29:48, 1:29:51]: What we have next is actually the city manager's comments. [1:29:55, 1:29:57]: Okay. [1:29:59, 1:30:00]: Casman Alexander, you're coming, sir. [1:30:01, 1:30:21]: Uh yes, ladies and gentlemen, I want to thank you all for attending and for those who have tuned in and let you know that, you know, we uh as Councilman Blount said, you know, this council is very intense and we're about uh collectively making the best decisions uh for the city in order to move us forward. [1:30:21, 1:30:41]: And just understand we have gotten a tremendous amount done in twenty sixteen. Just look at the chart and the things that this city has, you know, many other items have been on the table for quite some time. Uh you know, I think about uh the Davis Road Sidewalk Project that [1:30:41, 1:30:47]: that we just had the community meeting with it. That's been on the table for s years. [1:30:47, 1:30:57]: And we're actually going to be able to move forward with that soon, maybe even providing multi use trails down there, connecting to the Highway forty two project. [1:30:58, 1:31:18]: Downtown development. It's actually in the budget where we're putting mutt money where our mouth is and we're actually going to create a master plan for downtown in order to do so. I've heard it from many citizens many times. Why don't we have a designated downtown area where this council has actually done [1:31:17, 1:31:37]: something about that. Um you know I'm I I actually I spoke with the city manager about another issue which was a safe internet transaction zone uh that will be installed at the North Precinct. So during this holiday season hopefully you will be able to go to the North Precinct [1:31:37, 1:31:57]: And have a safe location to be able to transact the Craigslist lo um transaction or online transaction at the North Precinct itself in a safe environment. That's something that we want to be able to uh do for our citizens and be able to help you out. And lastly, I just want to say this. [1:31:57, 1:32:17]: Uh our citizens are affected by fire station number eight. Fire station number eight uh is um located actually in the county, but it serves our citizens and that fire station was condemned. Um I just do not think that it was an appropriate thing to do to have [1:32:17, 1:32:36]: have uh those firefighters put in a temporary location without coming to some final resolution at how uh um having a new fire station there. Our citizens need this place at the top of the chart uh that live along Walt Stevens flipping that entire area. [1:32:36, 1:32:44]: that they have a permanent structure in place and our firefighters, our heroes, deserve our very best. [1:32:45, 1:33:02]: uh accommodations uh to the work that they do every day. They're true heroes and they deserve our best. And I'm calling on Henry County to make a decision to make a permanent solution to uh a new fire station for fire station number eight. [1:33:03, 1:33:05]: Thank you. Councilman Blount, please. [1:33:05, 1:33:08]: I just wanna thank everyone for coming out and everybody that uh [1:33:08, 1:33:10]: has for taken in this uh meeting. [1:33:11, 1:33:15]: Um the city of Stockbridge, as I've always said, is in a unique position to [1:33:16, 1:33:25]: take itself to another level. That n that next level looks like uh progress, progress in the city and I think this council is in a position to do that. [1:33:26, 1:33:27]: Um [1:33:27, 1:33:31]: And we just need the cities the citizens of the city to just come together and [1:33:32, 1:33:35]: not only support what's going on in the city, but to get involved. [1:33:36, 1:33:39]: And the first way I want you to get involved is that we have a [1:33:39, 1:33:44]: We have the voting uh that early voting is this week and I would like to see everyone uh [1:33:45, 1:33:46]: Just express your right to vote. [1:33:47, 1:33:49]: Um we definitely want to [1:33:50, 1:34:00]: see things happen in the city to stop bridge. We definitely want to see progression in the city to stop bridge. But we don't want to be the ones we want your ideas, we want your input and we want to see us all grow together. Thank you. [1:34:01, 1:34:02]: Councilwoman Gantt. [1:34:03, 1:34:09]: Happy holidays and thank you guys for coming out. Thank the staff and admin team as always. [1:34:09, 1:34:12]: Um it is a pleasure working with you all. [1:34:12, 1:34:20]: Um and thanks thank you citizens for coming out today. Um we really appreciate it and all of you that are tuning in. Uh also [1:34:20, 1:34:40]: Um would like to announce that on december tenth I partnered with um Workout Anytime for a Fit Camp. It's gonna be at Clark Park Saturday morning, december tenth at nine o'clock AM. Um it's free, open to the public, and it the camp b begins the b [1:34:40, 1:34:52]: at nine thirty. So all are welcome to attend. We'll have flyers and make more announcements uh soon. Again, thank you all for being here and thank you for participating. [1:34:52, 1:34:53]: Castlewan Robinson. [1:34:54, 1:35:00]: Yes, sir. I wanna um thank everyone for coming out, the citizens for being here tonight, staff. [1:35:00, 1:35:02]: Um also wanted to [1:35:02, 1:35:22]: do a special thank you to staff um for for um showing the love and stepping in for Winona's funeral funeral. Um you guys were great. Um it really touched the families but I'm sure um if you haven't already received a thank you from them but definitely thanking the staff for stepping in um and [1:35:22, 1:35:42]: participating in that. Um I do have an additional announcement, but I'll wait to after Mayor Pro Tem finish his announcements. All right, thank you then. Uh citizens, uh Thanksgiving kinda in a sense starts off our holiday season. So hopefully everybody had a very good Thanksgiving with family and friends and so I'll tell you happy holidays and [1:35:42, 1:36:01]: as we continue through this festive season. And since the council is very aggressive, council wants to move the city forward, so look forward to a very prosperous and successful year in two thousand seventeen. And uh of course here shortly we'll have someone else join the the council as we c swing around to the new year. [1:36:02, 1:36:06]: And always a thank you for being engaged with us as we continue to have dialogue. [1:36:06, 1:36:18]: and to uh do what the best we can to to listen to you all and then bring things forward and do the best thing for the city star bridge we possibly can. On that note, um I will tell you um [1:36:18, 1:36:20]: Uh let me read these announcements here. [1:36:21, 1:36:24]: Early voting for runoff uh county and municipal election. [1:36:25, 1:36:30]: Uh November twenty eighth through December second, eight A. M. to five P. M. at Merrill Manors Conference Center. [1:36:30, 1:36:33]: one eleven Davis Road Stockbridge. [1:36:33, 1:36:35]: Uh so get out and vote, folks. [1:36:36, 1:36:41]: The Christmas gala, Thursday, December first, five thirty PM to nine PM, Murray Manor's Conference Center. [1:36:42, 1:36:44]: Free shuttle service from City Hall. [1:36:44, 1:36:46]: from five PM to ten PM. [1:36:46, 1:36:49]: It gets you back and forth uh to the Merrill Manner's Conference Center there. [1:36:51, 1:37:01]: Uh of course and now the county and municipal runoff election days Tuesday, December sixth. So voting take place at your local precincts. At your local precincts. [1:37:01, 1:37:08]: And so no voting will take place in Merrill Manters Conference Center. That's Harvard that would have ended on Friday. So once again, get out and vote. [1:37:09, 1:37:13]: Voting committee meeting Tuesday, December sixth, six PM, City Hall, Patrick Henry [1:37:13, 1:37:16]: a meeting room and I'll I'm the committee chair for that. [1:37:17, 1:37:24]: Okay. Main Street Advisory Board Meeting Friday, December ninth, nine AM in City Hall in the Levi Stockbridge meeting room. [1:37:25, 1:37:30]: Our next council meeting is Monday, December twelfth, six PM, right here in City Hall Coun uh Council Chambers. [1:37:31, 1:37:48]: be our final reading of the two thousand seventeen public uh hearing public hearing and adoption of our budget. And I would imagine on that day that I will not be running a meeting. I'm assuming that the the uh the mayor elect or the mayor will be sworn in by that time and and she,'cause it'll be a female, she will run that meeting. [1:37:49, 1:37:50]: All right. [1:37:50, 1:37:54]: Uh the Public Works Committee uh meeting is Thursday, december fifteenth. [1:37:55, 1:37:57]: five PM in the Patrick Henry meeting room. [1:37:57, 1:38:01]: And Councilm Woman Robinson is the committee chair. [1:38:01, 1:38:07]: And then a town hall public safety committee meeting Thursday, December fifteenth, seven PM at Floyd Chapel Baptist Church. [1:38:08, 1:38:12]: one oh four First Street, Scott Bridge, and Councilman Alexander is that committee chair? [1:38:13, 1:38:24]: And we have right now scheduled a special call meeting on Friday, December sixteenth, six PM, right here at City Hall Council Chambers and and it's gonna be dealing with these annexations that were just presented earlier. [1:38:24, 1:38:29]: And on that note, uh, Councilwoman Robinson, you have an initial additional [1:38:29, 1:38:46]: announcement. Yes, sir. Um I want to thank Ms. Diane. I she also placed this on our Facebook page, but we want to say congratulations to Stockbridge High School Tigers who defeated Griffin last week and they'll go on to um the semifinals to play Rome this week. [1:38:46, 1:38:54]: Um which is Friday. Um they'll play in Rome. So um the city of Stockbridge is organizing a celebratory send off. [1:38:54, 1:39:07]: along with public safety, um which is the Henry County PD, Henry County Fire Department and the Sheriff Department for the team between twelve twenty and twelve fifty, and this is on Friday afternoon. [1:39:08, 1:39:28]: as they head down the w the route will be from old Conyers Road, leaving the high school. They'll pass um City Hall, um, then they'll proceed to North Henry and then from North Henry to Highway one thirty eight until they reach I seventy five and then they'll be off to Rome um for that semi semi. [1:39:28, 1:39:28]: Finals. [1:39:29, 1:39:49]: And the colors that we're asking all the staff to wear orange as possible to be in supportive of the Tigers and we'll be standing on the city hall steps and if you can arrive by twelve twenty five, twelve thirty, so that way we can um show our support. Um so we just want to say again congratulations. [1:39:49, 1:39:54]: to the Tigers and to know that the city of Stockbridge is rooting for them um for a win. [1:39:55, 1:40:04]: Outstanding. Go tigers, huh? And of course if they win that game in Rome, they get down to the Georgia Dome. Georgia Dome. Oh boy. And we'll be out of them. [1:40:04, 1:40:10]: Okay. Sounds good. On that note, uh m uh Mr Attorney, take a session, sir. [1:40:11, 1:40:15]: [6015.7, 6016.4]: Okay. [1:40:16, 1:40:20]: Okay, council, I need a motion to take us in a second of the session, please. [1:40:22, 1:40:30]: Someone give me a c m a motion? Somewhere. [1:40:32, 1:40:33]: [6034.6, 6037.0]: And real estate. Right. Good deal. So a second. [1:40:38, 1:40:41]: I second. Thank you very much. This has been s seconded. [1:40:41, 1:40:47]: Any further discussion? All in favor please indicate. All right. Folks will be back. We're gonna go to the second session here. [1:40:53, 1:40:55]: Oh. [1:41:08, 1:41:10]: I would have to get away again. [1:41:13, 1:41:21]: That paperwork, was I the only one to have it? [1:41:40, 1:42:00]: No I mean that's the operation, but I know that they were the end of the [1:42:00, 1:42:11]: [6131.8, 6137.2]: Yeah, yeah. [1:42:25, 1:42:45]: These we uh root people. [1:42:44, 1:42:47]: [6168.9, 6170.0]: [1:42:50, 1:43:00]: [6182.5, 6184.7]: [1:43:07, 1:43:25]: [6205.0, 6215.0]: [1:43:40, 1:44:00]: It's uh [1:44:00, 1:44:20]: I think that's probably [1:44:19, 1:44:39]: [6279.8, 6299.8]: I don't know what we've got to say. [1:44:59, 1:45:18]: Yeah, it's uh you do. [1:45:23, 1:45:25]: Thank you. [1:45:27, 1:45:30]: I don't know what you're doing. [1:45:31, 1:45:45]: And we'll try and take care of it. [1:46:10, 1:46:15]: [6440.9, 6457.6]: Yeah, problem is the ball and problem. Yeah, problems. And by any problem, I think we'll do that. [1:48:05, 1:48:06]: [6490.0, 6500.8]: Honestly, we we we think we're like eating. [1:48:22, 1:48:25]: Over the yeah. [1:48:27, 1:48:29]: Anyway, so we got a very good work in the list. [1:48:36, 1:48:41]: You have to tell this event and tell them. The papers just have a happy. [1:48:45, 1:48:51]: But you will have to say, um and he knows I painting with us. [1:48:54, 1:48:58]: I never originally played it from give me a step. [1:49:08, 1:49:14]: And you could hold them all as well. [1:49:15, 1:49:18]: Over it and we'll all read. [1:49:18, 1:49:27]: They got the screen wheel. [1:49:29, 1:49:32]: Okay, I was going to do that as well. Thank you. [1:49:52, 1:49:56]: But I mean that's what is that's the main [1:50:04, 1:50:06]: You know what I mean? [1:50:09, 1:50:23]: Well that is, you know, you you'll give him a lot of money, but if you train them all costs a lot of things and then open costs. [1:50:26, 1:50:27]: Well how just [1:50:42, 1:50:44]: Even if you were doing the the [1:50:49, 1:50:58]: If you ever come back and you say, I gotta help him get up there for this, but why would you choose this or this? [1:51:01, 1:51:05]: Yeah. [1:51:29, 1:51:34]: You have to have a change of fact. [1:51:50, 1:51:52]: Yeah, uh [1:52:10, 1:52:12]: There you go. [1:52:35, 1:52:48]: And you don't you don't have to you know three other different presents. That's that's almost very happening. And then the difference that he made in your mind for forever. [1:52:50, 1:52:51]: Somebody down the question. [1:52:55, 1:52:57]: Well that can be [1:53:04, 1:53:08]: Then I'll be oh my god. [1:53:23, 1:53:23]: This is that. [1:54:21, 1:54:24]: Mm-hmm. [1:54:26, 1:54:41]: It went to that you know it was like the homecoming. And that's that's a lot of pain. You know, and that's what you need, even if the this movement is you need to know that there's [1:54:43, 1:54:55]: All the channels, you know? And I'm like, and that's all in all the boys. [1:55:05, 1:55:06]: [6909.1, 6911.8]: And then you're there. [1:55:47, 1:55:50]: That's why you're young. Yeah, you know you are. [1:55:53, 1:55:55]: Oh yeah, no. [1:56:25, 1:56:38]: Well they'll they'll see the very difference. Army is saying it's always still in control. And no matter who they're back, yeah, it went back in our wrong is one of what was going to do. [1:56:55, 1:56:59]: [7021.8, 7030.2]: [1:57:20, 1:57:28]: That was part of the plan. So well, you can choose. [1:57:33, 1:57:35]: [7056.4, 7069.6]: You tell them that I said [1:57:52, 1:57:55]: Ah, yeah. [1:58:05, 1:58:06]: Yeah. [1:58:32, 1:58:41]: [7160.0, 7175.8]: [1:59:36, 1:59:40]: Don't do that at all quick. [2:00:32, 2:00:33]: Okay. [2:00:33, 2:00:36]: California had a motion to uh [2:00:36, 2:00:38]: End or executive session, please. [2:00:39, 2:00:42]: Yes, and I make a motion to end the executive session. [2:00:42, 2:00:46]: I second. Okay, any further discussion? All in favor, please indicate. [2:00:47, 2:00:51]: I need a motion to reconvene our council work session. [2:00:52, 2:00:52]: Triple Tim. [2:00:52, 2:00:56]: I move that we reconvene our um work session. [2:00:56, 2:00:57]: There a second? [2:00:58, 2:00:59]: Second. [2:00:59, 2:01:18]: Go and further discussion. All in favor please indicate. All right. Now I need a uh motion for anything that that came out of our second session that we have to identify. Mayor Proten. Yes, ma'am I move that we approve the intergovernmental development agreement between the City of Stockbridge and the Henry County Development Authority. Okay, is there a second? [2:01:19, 2:01:21]: Okay. Any further discussion? [2:01:21, 2:01:22]: All favor, please indicate. [2:01:23, 2:01:27]: I council, I need a motion to end our council meeting this evening. [2:01:27, 2:01:38]: I move that we adjourn our work session meeting this evening. Second. Second. Oh there we go. Any further discussion? All in favor please indicate. Council meetings is over. [2:01:39, 2:01:40]: [7303.7, 7304.1]: Yeah. [2:02:00, 2:02:02]: Panie Przewodniczący. [2:02:13, 2:02:20]: [7341.3, 7360.0]: And can you get out my back? [2:02:45, 2:02:55]: Oh that's fair. Oh yeah, I'm gonna move this out. [2:02:58, 2:03:08]: Thank you. [2:03:10, 2:03:12]: [7400.0, 7410.0]: [2:03:45, 2:03:45]: [7429.7, 7437.3]: Washington. Yeah. [2:03:59, 2:04:01]: But they're not. [2:04:01, 2:04:17]: Yeah, so so so you can jump a sudden or over anybody else? Wisconsin. Right. So so so so that's AT Wisconsin. [2:04:17, 2:04:22]: Do you have more vision for that? Wow. [2:04:25, 2:04:45]: Uh you know it it it it's tough to I mean I'm not uh see you still whether you just have a small time for really you scared I mean come on. I've heard the argument I mean who you I hate the argument today I take it still the four best scenes. I don't care if you win your division, if you look [2:04:44, 2:04:53]: Okay, so here's a thing. Let's say let's say um more things. [2:04:55, 2:05:15]: Florida. Oh yeah. So Florida's background? No. I said sound in the Bennett State. No. You don't put Florida and you know what you would you could uh what's gonna happen [2:05:15, 2:05:16]: Yeah.

--- title: November 14 2016 City Council Meeting date: 2016-11-14 source: 2016-11-14_November_14_2016_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:10]: [ 20.0, 22.6]: [0:00:43, 0:00:45]: Yeah, that's the [0:01:03, 0:01:04]: That is. [0:01:17, 0:01:20]: So we have a problem. [0:01:24, 0:01:25]: Thank you. [0:01:34, 0:01:40]: [104.9, 107.0]: How you doing? Good to see you. God bless you. [0:01:51, 0:01:54]: Oh, that'll never stop. That'll never stop. [0:02:21, 0:02:23]: [145.0, 147.4]: [0:02:28, 0:02:43]: [180.3, 183.6]: [0:03:04, 0:03:05]: Yeah. [0:03:10, 0:03:12]: Okay. [0:03:14, 0:03:19]: I don't know if you have a lot of people. [0:03:21, 0:03:24]: [210.7, 212.2]: [0:03:36, 0:03:50]: And so we have a little thing on the side. [0:04:00, 0:04:01]: What is this? [0:04:03, 0:04:03]: Mm. [0:04:07, 0:04:08]: Who's that for them? [0:04:09, 0:04:20]: [270.3, 275.1]: Apologize the issue. [0:04:35, 0:04:38]: Are you ready, Madam Clerk? Okay. [0:04:39, 0:04:42]: Hi, ladies and gentlemen, sorry about the delay. I have roughly [0:04:42, 0:04:45]: It looks like from here about seven minutes after an hour or six. [0:04:46, 0:04:50]: I want to open up the council meeting for the city of Stockbridge Monday, November 14th. [0:04:51, 0:04:51]: Out of order. [0:04:52, 0:04:55]: Invocation. Uh Ms. Mildred Reed, please. [0:04:58, 0:04:58]: Everybody please stand? [0:04:59, 0:05:00]: If we're able, that is. [0:05:11, 0:05:28]: Heavenly Father, as I stand before you this evening on behalf of the Council and the citizens, I want to thank you for your grace and mercy you have bestowed on each of us, even though we have not always been obedient to your word. [0:05:28, 0:05:35]: Let this council me uh meeting and let the members do your will for Stockbridge. [0:05:35, 0:05:38]: Uh at this time I want to take a moment. [0:05:38, 0:05:43]: Uh we have a moment of silence for the passing of Winona Williams. [0:05:43, 0:06:02]: the city utility clerk who passed this past Saturday last Saturday. And the funeral will be at Red Oak United Methodist Church next Saturday, November nineteenth, eleven A. M. If we can just have a few moments of silence for prayer for her and her family. [0:06:10, 0:06:23]: Amen. I do want to add and on behalf of the staff because a lot of staff members have really been affected by this, so we'll ask the citizens to please be mindful. Thank you. [0:06:24, 0:06:35]: I delegance on the [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Madam Clerk, roll call please. [0:06:46, 0:06:48]: Councilman Alexander. [0:06:48, 0:06:50]: Councilman Blount. [0:06:50, 0:06:50]: President. [0:06:51, 0:06:52]: Maybe [0:06:53, 0:06:56]: Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilwoman Robinson. Present. [0:06:57, 0:06:59]: Mayor Protein, May Abacorn. [0:06:59, 0:07:01]: Any emotion to adopt the agenda, please? [0:07:03, 0:07:06]: Mayor Potem? Yes, Mayor I move that we adopt the agenda. [0:07:07, 0:07:19]: Okay. Excuse me please. Mayor Pro Tem, I make a motion to table item number thirteen was the annexation number AX sixteen dash forty seven. [0:07:20, 0:07:27]: and a motion to move item number fifteen up on the agenda under new business following item number twelve. [0:07:27, 0:07:28]: Thank you, sir. Second. [0:07:29, 0:07:29]: I second. [0:07:30, 0:07:43]: Any further discussion? Yes, I would like uh the the representatives from thirteen are here. If we might be to give'em an explanation. I think I talked to Mr. Williams earlier'cause they were anxiously anticipating this going forward tonight. [0:07:44, 0:07:45]: Mr. Wales? [0:07:46, 0:07:47]: Or Ms. Harrison. [0:07:47, 0:07:54]: Yeah, I I'll start Mike can help chime in. Um as we're going through the annexation process, um [0:07:55, 0:08:08]: found out that th that Carrick Lake actually has a very unique um zoning classification currently under the counties um under the counties jurisdiction. It's it's a P D development [0:08:09, 0:08:29]: uh P D zoning, plan development zoning, we don't have that same zoning classification here within the city. So as you're going through it, as we're exploring it, we still need to make sure a again with any property that gets annexed into the city, it has to be it has to annex in with with a very similar type of of zoning. So in [0:08:29, 0:08:30]: In order to [0:08:31, 0:08:51]: do this annexation properly, we also are going to have to annex the property. I think we under the understated we thought again it was like a R two, R three, as it turns out again it was a P D it was a planned development from years back. Um so we'll be rezoning from a P D along with [0:08:51, 0:09:02]: with the annexation from a current P D to a R two and R three, which is the most similar rezoning that we would have that would meet ours. So certainly hate that it's it's [0:09:02, 0:09:22]: defers you know where we're going. It doesn't. N nothing is is hindering the annexation. But again, after having gone for so long in this case, and this has been going on for quite some time, we wanted to make sure that we had all the I's dotted and T's crossed and it was everything was done absolutely correctly. So um while we hate to have to defer it, we think it's a prudent step to make sure [0:09:22, 0:09:24]: Yeah. [0:09:24, 0:09:44]: Oh yeah and and and and and we mentioned the time frame. Um right now it has been advertised already to be heard by the z the the new stockwards um d um zoning advisory board at the latter end of this month on november twenty eighth. Correct, six o'clock. And then that'll be heard by the [0:09:44, 0:10:00]: the council here on december sixteenth in connection with some of the others uh coup uh with a few other annexations that we already have planned as well. So um so it is slightly deferred but again we just wanted to make sure that it was done everything was done in the proper order. [0:10:00, 0:10:09]: Mikey. Could we speak with them uh privately, I guess, and kind of uh maybe kind of they're in the audience and we're expecting something different. [0:10:09, 0:10:29]: If it well you know and I if if it's the councillors determination if we want to go through and get to that item and allow for a comment, that would certainly be reasonable. That's something the council wants to consider. And if there are any questions that the um uh residents may have, be happy to try and address as best we can. It would just we would not be presented for action at this time. [0:10:29, 0:10:30]: Time. [0:10:30, 0:10:45]: All right. We can table any action taking place, but we certainly can hear if c if residents want to speak and and and engage in conversation. Okay. So uh you would like to I'm imagine who wants to hear them speak on this issue? You do? You uh well, sir, do you have a comment? [0:10:45, 0:10:58]: So look like we're dealing with formalities right now just to make sure we're in line with the so they're they this will be done before the year is out also, is that correct? That's correct. Right now it's scheduled to be heard by this council on [0:10:59, 0:11:00]: December sixteenth. [0:11:00, 0:11:01]: But at this point. [0:11:02, 0:11:13]: The way we was gonna do the annexation was gonna be done before the year's out. This way we have to do it to make sure we're in line is gonna be done before the year's out, which we got roughly a month and a half left, so [0:11:13, 0:11:16]: Um I mean if there's any citizens here I think that [0:11:16, 0:11:21]: I think their satisfaction to me would be that it's gonna be done before the year's out. [0:11:21, 0:11:22]: Any comments on this side? [0:11:24, 0:11:28]: All right, so if we do that, then that means we have to rescind this particular motion because the motion [0:11:29, 0:11:38]: Or or you can allow a special comment period right after the public comment just for the Carriage Lake residents. All right. [0:11:39, 0:11:46]: We can do that. Do we have to amend the agenda for that as well? Okay. So we need to pass this one then then have another motion, I would imagine. All right. [0:11:46, 0:11:50]: So we have a any more discussion. Got a motion on the floor and uh [0:11:50, 0:11:51]: It's been seconded. [0:11:52, 0:11:53]: So all in favor of the motion? [0:11:55, 0:12:06]: All right. Now so we'll we'll take it off now for special comments. Now I need a motion for any special comments after the public uh comments that we have already is what you're referring to. So I need a motion for that. [0:12:07, 0:12:20]: Anybody? Mayor Purton? Yes, ma'am. I move that we um allow special comments in regards to the annexation um of Kerch Lakes um right after the public comment. Certainly. Okay, any further discussion? [0:12:20, 0:12:21]: All favored the motion? [0:12:22, 0:12:23]: Okay, there we have it. Now. [0:12:24, 0:12:25]: Uh [0:12:25, 0:12:27]: I need a motion to adopt [0:12:27, 0:12:29]: The minutes from September twelfth. [0:12:30, 0:12:32]: And also from uh September twenty seventh, please. [0:12:34, 0:12:40]: Mayor Pro Tem, I'm making a motion to adopt amendments from um the council meeting on September the twelfth. [0:12:42, 0:12:47]: Second. On the twenty second. Okay. Second. All right. Any further discussion? [0:12:47, 0:12:53]: All in favor, please? Indicate? All right, synonymous. All right. Now, public comments. [0:12:55, 0:13:05]: We have three public comments. One public comment is pertaining to the budget which um we have a public hearing [0:13:06, 0:13:15]: Okay. All right. So that's okay, so we'll do that at the time of the public hearing. Okay? Okay. Ms. Milford Reed? Okay. [0:13:28, 0:13:31]: Ms. Reid, your name and address please? Yeah, I'm sorry. Name and address, please. [0:13:32, 0:13:34]: Noted we five thirty creep view overlook. [0:13:36, 0:13:37]: Have you heard? [0:13:38, 0:13:47]: S uh Stockbridge was granted uh funds from the uh Henry County C D B grant money to use [0:13:47, 0:14:07]: We are now focusing on it's being focused on the Tha Street corridor area. Anyone living in that area where you are invited to attend our information seminar, which is free. It's gonna be the first one will be held November, Wednesday, November the 16th at 7 p.m. This will be a floor. [0:14:07, 0:14:13]: Chapel Baptist Church. The second one will be Saturday, November the nineteenth. [0:14:13, 0:14:33]: at 10 a.m. at Trinity United Methodist Church and the last one again will be December the 10th at 10 a.m. at Trinity. If anyone is interested in getting some more information in the Tastree Corridor Corridor area, you can see me after the meeting and we'll [0:14:33, 0:14:36]: We will get you uh some information. Thank you. [0:14:37, 0:14:37]: Thank you. [0:14:42, 0:14:44]: Ms. Carolyn Williams. [0:14:45, 0:14:48]: Ms. Williams, come forward please, your name and address. [0:14:56, 0:14:59]: Good afternoon, Mayor, members of the Council. My name is Carolyn Williams. [0:15:00, 0:15:01]: And I live in Stockwritch. [0:15:01, 0:15:04]: Yeah. [0:15:05, 0:15:06]: Um [0:15:07, 0:15:11]: I've done research as for is how many dogs are allowed in a neighborhood. [0:15:11, 0:15:14]: And my neighbors have eight. [0:15:15, 0:15:15]: in this city. [0:15:16, 0:15:19]: And the county, from what I've researched, is only four. [0:15:20, 0:15:23]: And there have been issues with the dogs as far as getting out. [0:15:23, 0:15:25]: uh sometimes roam in the neighborhoods. [0:15:25, 0:15:34]: Uh there have also been uh times I live right next door to the people that own the dog, but there have been times when they let the dogs out. [0:15:35, 0:15:36]: They're just um [0:15:36, 0:15:40]: There it's on Sanitari actually. Uh fecal smell in the air. [0:15:41, 0:15:41]: Things like that. [0:15:42, 0:15:44]: So my question is [0:15:48, 0:15:50]: In in my opinion, in the county [0:15:51, 0:15:52]: There is no limitation. [0:15:53, 0:16:03]: I don't understand why that's not reversed as far as being in the city, you should have a limited amount of dogs, but in the county there is no that you have a limit. So what can be done [0:16:04, 0:16:06]: to remedy this situation. [0:16:06, 0:16:12]: All right, I'm gonna plead maintenance for a second. Do we actually have a limit in in the city? An ordinance that covers that? Okay. [0:16:13, 0:16:14]: Um [0:16:14, 0:16:28]: I don't know if what I could um I could be happy to meet with Ms. Williams um offline and to hear about the specifics of her situation and look into it, research our ordinance and see what we have in place and uh follow back up with the council after that. So [0:16:28, 0:16:30]: All right. [0:16:31, 0:16:33]: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [0:16:35, 0:16:36]: There are no private comments. [0:16:38, 0:16:40]: I don't I don't know. I didn't ask her. [0:16:41, 0:16:50]: Uh that's all for public comments. Alright, so now we'll open up for uh any comments I guess specifically for the carriage like individuals that are here. Uh if you want to make any comments one one way or the other. [0:16:51, 0:16:55]: specifically about the annexation and the delay that we we're gonna have. [0:16:55, 0:16:58]: If you want to come forward, you come to the mic, give your name and address, please. [0:17:07, 0:17:22]: My name is Denise Lewis, I live at twenty seven Carriage Lake Drive. Okay, I've been on this process since two thousand and eight, trying to get us annexed on. We went through getting all the required signatures, packets getting lost. [0:17:22, 0:17:28]: took over a year before finally Councilwoman Gantt tracked down where the packages were. [0:17:28, 0:17:48]: By then it was too late. We had that the time had expired of how long you're given to require all of the signatures. So what I want to confirm tonight is this is just the formalities of you switching over to this new category for our subdivision, but that this is going to happen before the year is out of us getting annexed. [0:17:48, 0:17:56]: I think that's a good question. That's correct. [0:17:56, 0:18:16]: We want to make sure, because it's taken so long that we do do it absolutely correct. And that was one of the problems when it was tried attempted a couple of years back. There was a there was some confusion and not actually getting it was a number of property owners as well as number of registered voters. And so that was part of the problem. So we don't want to have to go through that again. So we've gone through and meticulated [0:18:16, 0:18:32]: looked at the um every aspect of the annexation to make sure this is the final thing that's required. We've been in we've conferred back and forth with the county as well. Okay. They're in they're in they're in agreement, so this is the last step. So right now it's certainly our intention to have this completed on december sixteenth. Okay. [0:18:32, 0:18:33]: All right, that's what I needed to hear. [0:18:34, 0:18:39]: Thank you. [0:18:39, 0:18:43]: No, no, no. You're you're fine. You're fine. Any other members on Care's Lake? [0:18:43, 0:18:45]: Anybody else who cares like want to say anything about this? [0:18:47, 0:18:48]: All right, this will go right here. [0:18:48, 0:18:49]: Castman, sir. [0:18:50, 0:18:52]: Ron is coming up to you. [0:19:00, 0:19:05]: My name's Ron Fassadag, I live at two thirty one Lakeview Place, Stockbridge. [0:19:05, 0:19:19]: I'd just like to say thank you for all your help and everything I know w it's a lot been a long process and and and it's been frustrating at times, but I'd just like to thank the council and the people been involved for all your help and everything you've done for us. [0:19:20, 0:19:40]: Okay. Thank you. Welcome. All right. Anybody else from Carriage Lake? Okay. Not Councilman Latin, go ahead. [0:19:39, 0:19:56]: I believe that the city manager and the city attorney are doing everything necessary to make sure that that happens. And believe me, sitting in this chair, we're gonna be sitting back here December sixteenth. If all possible, nothing else, we're gonna get this done for you all. We're gonna get it done. [0:19:57, 0:20:03]: All right. On that note, any other council members comment on this issue? Okay. We'll go on the ceremonial uh part of the programme. [0:20:18, 0:20:24]: Just so you know they can tell my time all the right here because I want to read this. Fair with me. [0:20:41, 0:20:42]: This first uh [0:20:43, 0:20:48]: part of the ceremony and deals with a letter of commendation. It's actually dated ten October two thousand sixteen. [0:20:49, 0:20:56]: And this involves the uh Stockbridge uh high school STEM program. Uh there's a Mr [0:20:57, 0:20:58]: Uh Moen Mohan? [0:21:00, 0:21:02]: Okay is anybody here from Stoppard High School? [0:21:04, 0:21:04]: Okay. [0:21:05, 0:21:07]: He's he's not the right guy. [0:21:08, 0:21:09]: Okay. [0:21:11, 0:21:12]: I okay. [0:21:13, 0:21:15]: Well we got okay, so be it. [0:21:16, 0:21:16]: Right. [0:21:16, 0:21:18]: What's what's next? [0:21:22, 0:21:42]: Stockbridge high school. Um yeah the the city of uh Stockbridge is in a partnership with several different high schools that are within the city and or students that actually attend those high schools obviously and the city is an as is uh in a partnership of five hundred dollars of to those high schools for athletic type of programs. And so the representatives from Stockbridge High School, the any of the [0:21:42, 0:21:45]: [1307.4, 1307.7]: Okay. [0:21:48, 0:22:03]: A football player. Well, I ra I appreciate that and I wish you and I wish you well in getting to the state championship. Then we'll all be jumping for joy. But I I I think we need to really issue this to officially to to a coach or athlete director or principal. [0:22:04, 0:22:04]: Okay. [0:22:05, 0:22:05]: What's next? [0:22:07, 0:22:09]: It's uh okay, Union Grove High School. [0:22:11, 0:22:12]: There we go. Okay. [0:22:13, 0:22:14]: Walmart, please. [0:22:15, 0:22:35]: And once again this is in reference to a partnership the city is as is uh get with the done with the Union Grove High School in reference to uh the athletic program. And uh we've also the city council is also in the past and and I will say in the future will be part of the discussion we have initially for our budget in reference to um uh partnership with the with the [0:22:35, 0:22:55]: Henry County uh school system itself as we go into schools and talk talk about career days and try to mentor kids as well. And and last year we also gave us a five thousand dollar uh uh partnership, uh identified partnership uh with the uh Cotton Indian elementary school as well. So those are the type of things that we do from time to time as a uh uh governing monitoring. [0:22:55, 0:23:11]: municipal government. Um while she's working on something uh you are? I'm Kelly Smith. I'm the athletic director at Union Grove High. Ryan Liggs, principal of Union Grove High. Outstanding. Glad to meet you both. I'm sorry I said this earlier. Okay. And um what it is is that uh [0:23:11, 0:23:25]: I guess I guess we'll pressure take a picture with all the entire council. All right. So could the council come on down now? Okay. Wanna be able to present this to you all. Okay. And actually I'll tell you what, why she's working on it. [0:23:25, 0:23:37]: We just certainly appreciate the partnership with the with the City Council of Stockbridge and and certainly appreciate the support of our our school and our athletic program and and sincere thank you to uh to all of you guys uh for your support. [0:23:37, 0:23:53]: Okay. We have um outstanding athletes who will be the recipients and benefiting from your sponsorship and we certainly do appreciate you thinking of us. Um we do have some fine kids coming out of those athletes that are in your [0:23:53, 0:24:00]: district, I guess city of Stockbridge. And um thank you for considering us and remembering us. No problem. Thank you. Okay. [0:24:03, 0:24:05]: Are you ready? We are ready. [0:24:12, 0:24:16]: [1461.2, 1474.4]: I guess shift down this way. This way a little bit, yeah. All right. Okay, perfect. All three. One, two, three. One more. One, two, three. [0:24:35, 0:24:41]: [1485.0, 1489.5]: And [0:24:49, 0:24:55]: So I have the original thing. [0:24:59, 0:25:04]: I do well, I mean I I'm gonna be up here for a little while for you. [0:25:06, 0:25:19]: Well the next proclamation is for uh on our small business Saturday. So any of the folks that are in here that are part of small business community, could you come up please? Small b any b uh any entrepreneurs, small business community? [0:25:19, 0:25:20]: Come on up. [0:25:21, 0:25:25]: Gonna read this proclamation with you all present. We should have a big crowd of folks, right? [0:25:32, 0:25:34]: Come on up, folks. [0:25:45, 0:25:47]: Down? [0:25:47, 0:26:07]: Okay. In honor of Small Business Saturday, whereas the City of Stadbridge celebrates our local small businesses and contributions they make to our local economy and community. According to the United States Small Business Administration, there are currently twenty eight point eight million small businesses in the United States. They represent ninety nine point seven percent of all businesses with employees in the United States. [0:26:07, 0:26:13]: States are responsible for sixty three percent of the new net jobs created over the past twenty years. [0:26:14, 0:26:21]: Whereas small businesses employ over twenty nine per excuse me, over forty nine percent of all businesses with employees in the United States. And whereas [0:26:21, 0:26:37]: Eighty-nine percent of consumers in the United States agree that small businesses uh contribute positively to the local uh community by supplying jobs and generating tax revenue. Eighty-seven percent of the consumers in the United States agree that small businesses are critical to the overall economic health of the United States. [0:26:37, 0:26:57]: Ninety three percent of consumers in the United States agree that it's important for people to support the small businesses that they value in their community. And whereas the City of Stopbury supports our local businesses that create jobs, boast our local economy, and preserve our neighborhoods, and whereas advocacy groups as well as public and private organizations across the country have endorsed this Saturday as a [0:26:57, 0:27:17]: Thanksgiving at Small Business Saturday. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority vested in me as a mayor pro tem of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of Councilmembers Elton Alexander, John Blount, Lakeisha Gantt and Neat Robinson do hereby proclaim Saturday, november twenty-sixth, twenty sixteen, as Small Business Saturday. We encourage all citizens to go shop local and shop small. [0:27:17, 0:27:17]: No. [0:27:17, 0:27:25]: And witness that whereof I have hereunto set my hand on the fourteenth day of November, the year of our Lord two thousand sixteen. Outstanding. [0:27:26, 0:27:27]: [1647.8, 1648.9]: [0:27:29, 0:27:31]: Is it is it necessary down here? [0:27:33, 0:27:45]: That's what's all me down there? Okay. No, no, no, no. Uh oh you want us up okay, you want us all up there? So we can take a picture. Okay. We'll go up. I'll leave you something. Okay. Everybody up front, move out the chair, we'll take this last time. [0:27:55, 0:28:01]: [1689.5, 1700.0]: [0:28:21, 0:28:38]: Okay. Are you tattoos all or do we need to make a test? I'm gonna need some yeah, see y'all on the back or on the front. [0:28:38, 0:28:50]: I have everybody. [0:28:50, 0:28:53]: Okay. On three. One, two, three. [0:28:54, 0:29:08]: Right on time. One, two, three. One more. One, two, three. Thank you. [0:29:15, 0:29:17]: [1758.3, 1760.1]: Yeah. [0:29:21, 0:29:26]: [1768.8, 1783.8]: Just wanna let you know for all you small businesses there's only one proclamation. Kira's gonna keep that and what she's gonna do, she's gonna make copies of that proclamation, send it to each one of you all that were here. So you get a copy of the proclamation, okay? And all of you will get that. All right? [0:29:48, 0:29:48]: All right. [0:29:50, 0:29:52]: Reverend Doctor Jacqueline D. Rose Tucker. [0:29:53, 0:29:56]: Red Oak, Adam Methodist Church, the man. [0:29:57, 0:29:58]: And your congregation. [0:30:01, 0:30:03]: Come on up. [0:30:04, 0:30:05]: Red Oak. [0:30:06, 0:30:09]: [1815.6, 1819.4]: Yeah, let's go come on, scoot on downside. Come on down. Come on down a little bit. [0:30:20, 0:30:30]: I just want to because you've got a lot of folks on that end, just want to get them a little bit more. [0:30:32, 0:30:43]: Yes sir. Why? Yeah, it's time one point. [0:30:44, 0:30:45]: Okay. [0:30:46, 0:31:06]: Let me see. I'm gonna if you don't mind, I'm gonna you're taller. I'm gonna sit right in here. I don't want to block the path. Okay, check that out. Okay. Celebrating Red Oak United Methodist Church hundred and fiftieth anniversary. Whereas in early in eighteen sixty six a small group of Christians band together in Henry County, Georgia to share mutual love for God and to worship our Redeemer like so many other black people. [0:31:06, 0:31:15]: searching for direction and meaning to freedom. And whereas in the spring of that same year those beloved Christians received two acres of land donated by Mr. Jim Lee [0:31:16, 0:31:36]: Among the founders of Red Oak Methodist Church were Joe Jordan Hensman and Simon Stewart. To conduct worship services, these Christians built a bush arbor, tent-like structure made from logs and free branches to shelter them while listening to the rousing sermon. And whereas led by Reverend W. H. Lovelace, the congregation first sat [0:31:35, 0:31:40]: that on the area of land where it was formerly a part of the Jim Walton plantation. [0:31:41, 0:31:54]: A congregation which consisted of only a few faithful saints purchased two additional acres of land from Lee estates. As the congregation grew, it became necessary to establish more permanent buildings for the worship services. Shortly thereafter, a wooden structure was built. [0:31:54, 0:32:04]: Whereas the Methodist Church became aware of a shortage of preachers, Red Oak became part of a four point charge. The churches in that charge are Red Oak, Andrews Chapel, Bentley Hill, and Trinity. [0:32:05, 0:32:13]: In nineteen thirty the charge was rearranged into a three-point circuit, discharged under the leadership of Reverend A. C. Cobb, consisting of Red Oak, Bentley Hill, and Trinity. [0:32:13, 0:32:20]: And whereas under the leadership of Reverend Simmons, a building committee was established and the dream of building a church, Persionist, became a reality. [0:32:21, 0:32:27]: In nineteen eighty four the Parson His was completed. Dedication services were held and the Parson His became a beautiful addition to the Red Oak family. [0:32:28, 0:32:42]: And whereas in nineteen eighty five, Red Oak was awarded a North Georgia Conference Evangelism Certificate. Under Reverend Owens' leadership, Red Oak embarked on a mission to construct a new s sanctuary. The building committee was formed in late eighteen uh nineteen eighty six and the planning and fundraising began. [0:32:43, 0:32:49]: Whereas in june nineteen eighty nine, Reverend Doctor John W. Pace began his service as Pastor of Red Um Oak. [0:32:49, 0:33:09]: He rekindled the fire under the building committee, which resulted in a renowned sense of urgency to build a new sanctuary. Church was built and completed under his leadership. On Palm Sunday, nineteen eighty nineteen four, excuse me, on Palm Sunday, nineteen ninety four, the old sanctuary burned to the ground. Many came to our aid and services were held each Sunday with our sister church, Jonesboro First United Methodist Church in Dallas. [0:33:09, 0:33:16]: downtown Jonesboro. After completing renovations, Reddock returned home by walking all the way from Jonesboro first and I left his church. [0:33:16, 0:33:19]: Whereas in May nineteen ninety five when a doctor pace [0:33:19, 0:33:25]: Middle began building a multipurse uh purpose building to extend our commitment to the God and to the community. [0:33:25, 0:33:27]: Thus birthing the Family Life Center. [0:33:27, 0:33:38]: And whereas one hundred and fifty years later Red Oak is still standing and under the outstanding leadership of Reverend Dr. Jacqueline D. Rose Tucker, the first African American female to serve on the cabinet of the North Georgia Conference. [0:33:38, 0:33:39]: Hallelujah. [0:33:39, 0:33:40]: Amen. [0:33:41, 0:34:01]: How therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority vesting to me, as mayor pro tem in the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of the council members out in Alexander John Blount, Lakisha Gantt and Neat Robinson do hereby congratulate Red Oak, United Methodist Church on the hundred and fiftieth anniversary. May God continue to bless this wonderful congregation for many years to come, and witness whereof I here unto set my hand the cause of the world. [0:34:01, 0:34:06]: the great seal of steady stop bridge to fix this says the tenth day of october twenty sixteen. [0:34:06, 0:34:08]: Dobra. [0:34:15, 0:34:15]: Yeah. [0:34:16, 0:34:22]: Uh just um proud of Red Oak United Methodist Church has always been a part of this community. [0:34:23, 0:34:30]: And we'll continue to be in partnership um with this community and I guess we could be considered a small business as well. [0:34:31, 0:34:32]: So [0:34:32, 0:34:42]: We thank you for this proclamation and we thank the members for showing up and I just thank God that I'm a part of this tremendous tradition. [0:34:43, 0:34:44]: Yeah, I'm not sure. [0:34:47, 0:34:56]: We're gonna go back to the back here if you don't mind, okay? And oh this is a good idea. [0:35:04, 0:35:11]: Yes, it is. [0:35:15, 0:35:18]: Uh we have to [0:35:25, 0:35:40]: I don't almost stand in the back, but we've got you took out about six five, I'll tell you that. [0:35:45, 0:36:05]: Yeah, they want to slide in the back. Tall in the back. More giants. Sure, absolutely. [0:36:05, 0:36:12]: Okay, is everybody ready? All right. [0:36:14, 0:36:19]: Everybody have their places? Okay, on three, give me a big smile. One, two, three. [0:36:20, 0:36:23]: One more, one, two, three. [0:36:23, 0:36:24]: Thank you. [0:36:30, 0:36:50]: [2210.0, 2213.0]: That's right. That's right. [0:37:08, 0:37:09]: Okay. [0:37:09, 0:37:20]: For the last one for this evening. But uh it's great it's great as well. This is with Trinity United Methodist Church celebrating a hundred and sixty years. So any everybody that's here from Trinity, please come forward. [0:37:21, 0:37:23]: [2252.4, 2254.3]: Everybody from Trinity, okay? [0:37:38, 0:37:41]: You don't, that's it. All right. Yeah. [0:37:42, 0:37:43]: Okay. [0:37:44, 0:37:45]: Okay. [0:37:45, 0:38:05]: Whereas Trinity Trinity Methodist Church was organized in eighteen fifty-six under the leadership of Reverend OglTree. At the foun uh founding, Trinity was part of the Methodist Episcopal Church, and for several years the first place of worship was located at Old Stockbridge, in an area that was settled in eighteen twenty-nine when the Concord Methodist Church uh pres present [0:38:05, 0:38:25]: Day Stockbridge First United Methodist Church was organized near Old Stockbridge Road. And whereas as time passed and the surrounding area grew, and Stockbridge was incorporated as a town in 1895, as a city in August 6, 1920, as the boundary lines of the city moved from old to the new Stockbridge, Trinity built a new church located on East Atlanta Road, not four. [0:38:25, 0:38:45]: Far from Stage Coast Road. Whereas in 1930, a three-point Methodist charge was established and Trinity was added to a circuit along with Bentley Hill and Red Oak Methodist churches. And whereas in 1950, Reverend G. P. Wilson was appointed senior pastor. Under Reverend Wilson's leadership, both he and the current membership recognized the need to relocate. [0:38:45, 0:38:59]: the church to a new location. As a result, Mr. J. W. Clark donated two acres of land located at the corners of 2nd Street and Wilson Avenue, located across the the railroad tracks northeast of the township near the old hamrick estate. [0:38:59, 0:39:17]: to which Trinity is still located there to this date. Because of his leadership it is a p petition that the street directly in front of the church be renamed in on his honor. Thur um Thusley, Wilson Avenue, was named after Reverend G. P. Wilson. And whereas Trinity served as a triage facility [0:39:17, 0:39:37]: As Henry County Health officials and members of the CDC set up booths inside the church to treat local citizens during the tuberculosis outbreaks in the late 1950s and early sixties. Whereas in 1965, Reverend Reverend Fernandad Hunter was appointed senior pastor of Trinity Methodist. Trinity experienced a large increase in membership while under [0:39:37, 0:39:39]: Yeah. [0:39:39, 0:39:59]: During Reverend Hunter's time, the newly associated United Methodist Church was created on April twenty third, nineteen sixty eight. Across the nation and abroad, many Methodist churches joined ranks with the newly formed United Methodist and Trinity Methodist. It was one of them. In May nineteen sixty eight, Trinity connected with the United Methodist Church, and its name changed from Trinity Methodist Church to Trinity Methodist. [0:39:59, 0:40:00]: United Methodist Church. [0:40:01, 0:40:12]: And Trinity United Methodist Church has stood at the current location for sixty three years now and was renamed uh the remained the hub of this community. On july first, two thousand nine, Reverend Jacqueline Johnson [0:40:12, 0:40:18]: appointed. Okay. As Trinity's first female pastor and is the current pastor to the state. [0:40:18, 0:40:19]: On her leadership. [0:40:21, 0:40:41]: Under her leadership, Trinity continues to witness and share gospel story to everyone, everywhere, as we believe the world is our parish. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, Mayor of Pro Tem and the St uh Stockbridge, by virtue of the authority of Vested to mean by the laws of Stockbridge, Georgia, along with Councilmembers Elton, Alexander John Blount, LakishiGantt, and Meet Robinson issue a proclamation [0:40:40, 0:41:00]: Of congratulations, honor Trinity United Methodist Church, the hundred sixtieth year anniversary celebration. May God continue to bless you and this wonderful congregation for many more years to come. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand the sixteenth day of October in the year of our Lord, two thousand sixteen, in the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. I assigned this along with Vanessa Holiday, our clerk. [0:41:00, 0:41:05]: [2468.0, 2473.1]: Wanna thank you and this uh council and Stockbridge for recognizing us. [0:41:13, 0:41:18]: One hundred and sixty years is a long time to stand on the faith of [0:41:18, 0:41:34]: uh all people who believe in a better world. And so we look forward to working with this leadership and all of the business and leaders in this community in the city of Starkbridge to make it a better place for all citizens. [0:41:35, 0:41:45]: [2521.0, 2525.5]: [0:42:12, 0:42:18]: [2550.8, 2554.3]: Okay, one three. One, two, three. [0:42:35, 0:42:38]: One more. One, two, three. [0:42:39, 0:42:39]: Panie Przewodniczący. [0:43:20, 0:43:21]: Okay. [0:43:22, 0:43:30]: That was outstanding. Um old business number seven says uh council consideration of ordinance for soliciting nonprofits. Mr. Williams, please. [0:43:31, 0:43:44]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor Pro Tem and Council. Um I had previously forwarded this revised draft of the uh nonprofit solicitation ordinance to you all. Um [0:43:44, 0:43:50]: following up on our last meeting where it was first introduced. [0:43:50, 0:43:55]: And there are a couple of comments related to the previous draft [0:43:55, 0:43:56]: That this draft [0:43:56, 0:43:58]: addresses. Um one of the [0:43:59, 0:44:02]: Comments was concern about the limitation. [0:44:02, 0:44:07]: on a number of uh individuals who could be part of any one [0:44:07, 0:44:10]: solicitation um effort [0:44:10, 0:44:12]: Um so this version [0:44:12, 0:44:14]: Uh does a couple of things. [0:44:14, 0:44:17]: The first thing it does is it it makes it clear that [0:44:18, 0:44:23]: persons under the age of eighteen are not required to have a [0:44:23, 0:44:24]: A uh [0:44:25, 0:44:27]: a permit in order to [0:44:27, 0:44:30]: participate in non profit activities, however [0:44:31, 0:44:34]: It does require that you have one person [0:44:34, 0:44:37]: uh above the age of eighteen who is permitted [0:44:38, 0:44:39]: for every four. [0:44:39, 0:44:43]: persons under eighteen. So you have some sort of uh adult supervision [0:44:44, 0:44:46]: uh at a ratio of one to four. [0:44:46, 0:44:52]: Um that ratio, um, as I previously communicated to the council was [0:44:52, 0:44:56]: somewhat arbitrary but it's kinda based on, particularly for younger kids [0:44:57, 0:45:02]: uh related activities, uh typically you'll see a recommended ratio of one to four. [0:45:03, 0:45:05]: Um um when you're dealing with [0:45:05, 0:45:06]: No. [0:45:06, 0:45:10]: elementary age kids, um, although this would apply all the way through high school. [0:45:11, 0:45:11]: Uh [0:45:12, 0:45:13]: So [0:45:13, 0:45:26]: That is the first change is that we've eliminated w we've eliminated the overall limitation on the number of persons. So you could have in theory y if you had a a Girl Scout cookie sale or a bake sale or [0:45:26, 0:45:28]: you know, car wash, you could have [0:45:28, 0:45:31]: An unlimited amount of kids um [0:45:31, 0:45:35]: participating as long as you have one adult for every four kids. [0:45:35, 0:45:36]: Um [0:45:37, 0:45:38]: The [0:45:38, 0:45:58]: The next change was related to that because we've eliminated the overall number of persons that could be part of a nonprofit solicitation uh in general, what we did do uh in the draft was maintain a limitation on the number of persons who could participate in a nonprofit [0:45:58, 0:46:00]: at activity near the right of way. [0:46:01, 0:46:04]: So if you're off the right of way there's no limitation. So if you're in the [0:46:04, 0:46:11]: Walmart parking lot or what have you. You can have as many people as you want provided there's adequate adult supervision. [0:46:11, 0:46:14]: If you're within fifteen feet of the right of way. [0:46:15, 0:46:33]: You cannot have any kids within fifteen feet of the right of way and there's there is still a limitation of five persons who can participate again and so you just don't talk about activity um near the right of way, but all of those five persons needs to be above eighteen. Um [0:46:35, 0:46:36]: Think that yeah. [0:46:37, 0:46:40]: that that for non profit activities [0:46:40, 0:46:43]: near the right of way, within fifteen feet [0:46:43, 0:46:49]: It's a limitation of five persons who can be permitted and they all have to be above eighteen. [0:46:50, 0:46:55]: Uh those are the the major changes. Other than that it it's still um [0:46:56, 0:47:04]: allows non profits or requires that they get a permit, but for nonprofit organizations there would be no fee. [0:47:04, 0:47:08]: uh under what's proposed here. It's just more of a registration [0:47:08, 0:47:15]: effort, they would still need to get background checks for just like we do for other s uh solicitors and peddlers. [0:47:15, 0:47:16]: Um [0:47:16, 0:47:30]: And they would still be issued Nile from the city. So any members of the community would you know recognize that they have been duly permitted by the city so that they'd have some level of comfort that [0:47:30, 0:47:33]: You know, they're participating and and contributing. [0:47:34, 0:47:39]: is to a you know, a an organization that has had some betting from the city. [0:47:39, 0:47:42]: So those are the major changes. Um [0:47:42, 0:47:46]: I haven't received any feedback, although I think what's presented [0:47:47, 0:47:52]: is in a form that can be adopted by the council, but if you want to make additional changes on [0:47:52, 0:47:54]: Happy to receive that input. [0:47:55, 0:47:57]: All right. Thank you, Mr Williams. [0:47:57, 0:47:58]: Uh comments. [0:47:58, 0:48:04]: Any comments? Yes, sir. Go right ahead, please. Yeah. The only changes I see in in uh exhibit A [0:48:05, 0:48:11]: 'Cause I would change the time from seven to seven. That's due to uh summer times. A lot of times um [0:48:12, 0:48:14]: Organizations do things for breakfast. [0:48:15, 0:48:21]: And if you started at ten it would just alleviate that totally. So I I would recommend we do seven to seven. [0:48:23, 0:48:28]: Okay. And that's in section nine point thirteen point oh one oh? Yes sir. Okay. [0:48:30, 0:48:37]: Well let me ask you this then. Uh you put ten for what particular reason? Is it deal because of uh s uh Completely arbitrary. Yes, you know [0:48:38, 0:48:40]: Just daylight hours. [0:48:40, 0:48:41]: Primarily. [0:48:42, 0:48:47]: Yes, because in the winter months or it has to be the fall and late winter it'd be still be dark kinda since the seven o'clock. [0:48:48, 0:49:08]: Actually seven o'clock in the evening as well, though. Yeah. Okay. All right. Any other comments? Mayor Plutton? Yes, ma'am. Go right ahead, please. I move that we approve this ordinance with the amendment on section in exhibit A section nine one nine point one three oh one zero to read seven A. M. to seven PM. [0:49:09, 0:49:10]: So a second. [0:49:10, 0:49:11]: Back in. [0:49:11, 0:49:12]: Okay. [0:49:12, 0:49:13]: Any further discussion? [0:49:14, 0:49:20]: All in favor of that change in an amendment, approving this amendment, please indicate? Okay, it's unanimous. There you go. [0:49:21, 0:49:33]: New business, uh council consideration a resolution to approve water sewer write offs in the amount of twenty one thousand oh excuse me, yeah, twenty one thousand one hundred and fourteen dollars and eighty two cents. Miss Neighbors. Thank you. [0:49:40, 0:49:43]: Good evening. Good night. [0:49:44, 0:49:52]: So today we have before you to write off twenty one thousand one hundred and fourteen dollars and eighty two cents. [0:49:53, 0:49:58]: And um this represents less than one percent of our sales. [0:49:58, 0:50:01]: And the auditors recommend us [0:50:01, 0:50:04]: Um doing this in steps. [0:50:04, 0:50:07]: So you don't take a huge write off in one year. [0:50:07, 0:50:10]: This does not um [0:50:11, 0:50:12]: This does not this write off [0:50:13, 0:50:14]: Does not let the customer [0:50:15, 0:50:19]: be out of collections. They still owe us the money. This is basically [0:50:19, 0:50:21]: an auditing uh [0:50:23, 0:50:27]: exercise for lack of better words, so we don't take the hit. [0:50:27, 0:50:30]: over in uh one year. [0:50:30, 0:50:38]: So um I would ask that we write that off and like I said it doesn't make the customer not still obligated to pay that. [0:50:40, 0:51:00]: All right, any questions? Go ahead, please. Yes, um thank you, Miss Neighbors. And uh I know this is required. It's uh administrative charge or accounting charge that we kinda deal with. So are you saying that there'll be more of these or you just this twenty one thousand is exactly what we're writing off today for this year. [0:51:00, 0:51:08]: [3069.0, 3089.0]: Uh maybe can answer the question is is how do we get to this point where we have to write off twenty one thousand dollars. I mean, uh I guess to the layman person it'd be like you didn't pay the bill, we turned the bill, turned the tap off or because you didn't pay. So kinda walk us through how we get to the point where we're have a twenty one [0:51:29, 0:51:32]: one thousand dollar s um write off. [0:51:32, 0:51:38]: An indust industry standard is anywhere from two to five percent, just so y'all are cognizant of that. [0:51:43, 0:52:03]: of someone moves um away from an area, you know, we we you know we continue to pursue again we use we'll go through every step we can take on our end um while they're present, but then after a while after a term we'll go back and actually employ a collection service to go back through and and seek after and then find services but but you know [0:52:03, 0:52:23]: Like it happens in any other jurisdiction. I mean it's just, you know, as people move away and and and and fail to adhere to their obligations, um, that's just a a challenge that we have. So we know there's gonna be some. I think we've done pretty well to kind of keep it regul regulated as best we can, but um you know, it's just one of those unfortunate instances of of of government. [0:52:23, 0:52:43]: You know, it it's you know, we do we maintain a record of those areas so if someone's coming back, you know, within those areas we're able to kind of maintain a record of saying if we have their name, so if they come back they'll still be due. Again, it doesn't come off the books from that standpoint, but from an accounting standpoint we do have to capture it once a year to be able to clean our books up. [0:52:43, 0:52:44]: Um [0:52:44, 0:53:01]: But we are taking provi we continue to take provisions to make sure that we have um safeguards in place as best we can. You know, we still require deposits to be done, you know, up front. But um unfortunately there are some cases where, you know, people can get away and just you know, we're just left trying to track'em down. [0:53:02, 0:53:16]: Yeah, Putin. Plus just won't be budgeted from the general fund and once collected this will be added to fund balance. Well this is actually in the water sewer fund so it doesn't [0:53:16, 0:53:19]: impact the general operation operating [0:53:20, 0:53:22]: It just would be in the water sewer. [0:53:22, 0:53:26]: And if they collect it will go back into just like a revenue. [0:53:26, 0:53:32]: Okay. And like I said, it doesn't alleviate the obligation. They still are obligated to pay this. [0:53:32, 0:53:32]: Thank you. [0:53:33, 0:53:35]: [3215.5, 3235.5]: I'm pleased that it's less than one percent when the average is between two and five. So I'm um when I first came into office I was like, Oh my god, why are we whitening this off? But um over time things happen and we understand that this especially at the end of the year, we get things like this. Having said that, I would like to move that the [0:53:55, 0:54:03]: The council approves the consideration of resolution to approve water and sewer write-offs in the amount of twenty one thousand one hundred and fourteen dollars and eighty-two cents. [0:54:03, 0:54:04]: Sir a second. [0:54:05, 0:54:08]: Second. Okay. Further discussion. Anybody else need to have any comments? [0:54:09, 0:54:09]: Okay. [0:54:10, 0:54:12]: No other comments? All in favor of the motion please indicate? [0:54:13, 0:54:16]: Panie Przewodniczący. [0:54:16, 0:54:19]: Actually the next one for you all is what is this? The uh [0:54:20, 0:54:25]: Yeah, council consideration for resolution to approve surplus auction list. It says you, Miss Neighbors. It is. Okay. [0:54:26, 0:54:33]: Um so uh I think you have the listing of what we have asked to surplus and these are things [0:54:33, 0:54:39]: Uh the first group is from the sanitation, which is also an enterprise fund. [0:54:39, 0:54:41]: That is uh where we have [0:54:41, 0:54:43]: Uh I actually had three [0:54:43, 0:54:44]: garbage trucks. [0:54:45, 0:54:49]: all who have a net book value of zero. So um [0:54:52, 0:54:55]: What what will happen is it would um [0:54:56, 0:55:01]: Your assets will be written down but it's also been fully d depreciated, so [0:55:02, 0:55:05]: In essence it's no impact, it just will change the position. [0:55:06, 0:55:07]: Um and [0:55:07, 0:55:15]: What we'll do with these surplus items is uh either see if other jurisdictions would like to buy the garbage trucks [0:55:15, 0:55:22]: We have several interests in'em uh or we'll sell'em on gov deals or other auction [0:55:23, 0:55:23]: Um [0:55:25, 0:55:26]: Procedures. [0:55:27, 0:55:29]: Govdales is online. [0:55:30, 0:55:33]: auction and then that you could have a physical auction too. [0:55:34, 0:55:39]: Here I asked you a question. We don't sell these outside the that these items do not go outside the continental United States, is that correct? [0:55:40, 0:55:43]: Well again on Gov deals, anyone is open to bid on'em. [0:55:43, 0:56:03]: Um they have to they have to physically come here and pick them up. So we're doing we're we're looking at we've done Gub deals in the past and it's been very successful. There's another auction house that um we're exploring, our procurement officer uh Mr. Riley's exploring, where they actually come in physically pick up the materials and take them to a site, almost kinda hold them on consignment and get them sold that way. So [0:56:03, 0:56:23]: So we're we're kind of weighing the the benefits on both, but we will be in the next couple of weeks we'll have a we'll be looking at moving these items. The other question must seem like my simple assumption is that even though these are surplus, that means we already have items in place that do the mission of these particular pieces of equipment. We have newer models already in place at this time. Yeah. Um i that's a great point. You know, in in some cases again [0:56:23, 0:56:43]: Like the like the the trash trucks, those um no longer become became necessary once we went to privatization of our sanitation services. However, we were we are going to retain one one of those trash trucks just in case of emergencies should we need it for a for a situation. Um also on the list are um like seventy [0:56:43, 0:57:03]: plus picnic tables. Um last year or over this past summer, our public work staff replaced all the picnic tables in all of our parks. So while the you know they the other ones were about twenty years old, they've gone through, they'd clean them, pressure washed them over and over and over, and it was time for them to be replaced. Structurally they're still in very good condition and [0:57:03, 0:57:18]: there I'm sure there's a jurisdiction out there that very well may have a use for'em, but it was time for us to upgrade ours. So those were on a list. So in that case, you're right, there was a case if we've replaced them with something else. In the case of the um sanitation vehicles, there's just no longer a need for them. [0:57:19, 0:57:21]: Okay, thank you. Any other questions? [0:57:21, 0:57:22]: Mayor Portan. [0:57:23, 0:57:26]: Um I move that we approve um for [0:57:27, 0:57:27]: Um [0:57:28, 0:57:33]: The I motion that we approve the resolution to approve the surplus auction list. [0:57:33, 0:57:40]: Um that includes the sanitation surplus list for twenty sixteen and the public work surplus list for twenty sixteen. [0:57:40, 0:57:44]: Second. [0:57:44, 0:57:46]: All in favour of motion please indicate? [0:57:46, 0:57:48]: Okay, it's unanimous. Okay. Good deal. [0:57:51, 0:57:51]: Okay. [0:57:52, 0:57:57]: Council consideration resolution to approve five percent water sewer increase. Mr Harris, please. [0:57:57, 0:58:17]: Thank you. And just one other quick aside in regards to the surplus, part of those items are items that were had previously been stored in the multiplex. So that was part of one of the steps toward moving forward with the demolition was getting those things moved, the surplus, and subsequently um sold so we can move forward with the uh demolition plans from the multiplex. So just wanted to add that caveat. Um [0:58:17, 0:58:37]: The resolution before you is to um increase our water and sewer rates for the calendar year twenty seventeen. Um this would be a five percent increase on the volumetric charges, not the base charges. Um it should be noted that currently the City of Stockbridge has one of, if not the actual [0:58:37, 0:58:41]: to a lowest base charge of any of any of any jurisdiction around. [0:58:42, 0:58:43]: Um [0:58:43, 0:58:45]: And even our volumetric [0:58:46, 0:59:06]: charges at currently at eight dollars and ten cents at between four thousand and nine thousand gallons. Most residential um sites use less than the four thousand gallons. Again it keeps them at that base level it's one of the lowest that we have that that that exists within the um you know in in the area. Once you get [0:59:06, 0:59:15]: beyond that four thousand for that next that next category um we're asking for an increase there of just five percent. Um [0:59:16, 0:59:16]: You know [0:59:17, 0:59:37]: A lot of this is in keeping with what the Henry County water sewer does. I think they increased theirs two percent this past year. But part of ours is, you know, one you just heard a minute ago in regards to having to write out certain losses that we're not able to recoup, but also just make sure that we are able to book our depreciation for all of our for all of the um capital [0:59:37, 0:59:57]: capital assets for our water department. Um you know certainly whenever you come back before come before a council asking for an increase in in a rate, you know, I think it's important to note that um what's going on within that department. You've seen even this year we move forward with the new water meters that we think will be far more efficient and ultimately save citizens a great deal of money as we [0:59:57, 1:00:17]: We'll be able to capture the potential any any water lakes that much earlier. But also we are upgrade making upgrades throughout the entire system with our adding water lines on a regular basis and upgrading our our our some of our electronic systems as well. So um Mr Lynn think this even with this uh minor increase we'll still be on the lower side of other local jurisdictions. [1:00:16, 1:00:20]: Um [1:00:21, 1:00:26]: 'Cause typically for those who charge volumetric charges, it's between um [1:00:26, 1:00:29]: four to six thousand, up to nine uh up to [1:00:30, 1:00:49]: um ten, twelve or even eighteen thousand, ours just goes to seven thousand. So the majority of the resins be captured within that in those smaller categories. Again with the lower base charge that we have um for zero to four thousand gallons and then again with this just a slight increase on the volumetric side for those that are um [1:00:50, 1:00:51]: four thousand to nine thousand gallons. [1:00:52, 1:00:57]: Okay. Thank you, sir. Any questions here at all? Anybody go right? Yes, sir. [1:00:59, 1:01:02]: Um [1:01:03, 1:01:11]: I understand, I get what you're saying, I understand that. And we're also moving toward um opening a you know, getting another way also we can [1:01:12, 1:01:16]: move toward a hundred percent uh of supplying water to [1:01:16, 1:01:18]: our citizens in Stockbridge. [1:01:19, 1:01:25]: But we have to make sure we get what you just told us in our understanding out to the public. [1:01:26, 1:01:29]: Because for me personally to make this decision in here with [1:01:30, 1:01:31]: Just a small amount of people in here. [1:01:33, 1:01:37]: People not having this information is only gonna look like this council well, this councilman [1:01:38, 1:01:39]: Increase their water. [1:01:40, 1:01:45]: I can't make that decision until I'm fully satisfied that the public understand the need here. [1:01:46, 1:01:50]: and understand what we're actually why why we need an increase. [1:01:50, 1:02:08]: So m me personally, I can't make that decision. So my my move is to table this until we get the information out to the public in the way we need to get that out to them, whether that's town hall or forum or whatever, so they understand that that this increase that's gonna be there, mm, that's not temporary, it's an increase. [1:02:08, 1:02:22]: that they have full understanding. Right. And and and I would like to add that in past years, the way our ordinance is written, uh either way there will be an increase in the water rates because our rates are tied directly to those of Henry County Water and Sewer Department. [1:02:22, 1:02:27]: They have they increased in the past years they've historically increased five percent. [1:02:28, 1:02:42]: every year. And so our pri per our ordinance it automatically increases at the same rate as Henry County Water and Sewer Authority. This year they're increasing by two percent. So what we're asking for is to go ahead and bridge that additional three percent to help [1:02:42, 1:02:48]: meet with our some of our depreciation costs which haven't been getting captured in past years. So [1:02:48, 1:03:08]: Either way there will be a a percentage increase on on stockbridge water per our ordinance, whether that's two percent or five percent is the the differential. Just a follow up. Yes sir. I get it. Mm-hmm. Yes sir. I just need to make sure the citizens get it. Mm-hmm. Because we was we was el I was elected so they understand [1:03:08, 1:03:22]: every move that's being made in the city hall and I don't think enough citizens understand this in my opinion, from my position, that they don't understand this increase. So for me to make a decision I can't make I can't make a decision on [1:03:22, 1:03:28]: Can any other comments decide? Sir you had a comment? Go right. [1:03:29, 1:03:32]: No, no, no, no. [1:03:32, 1:03:36]: He well I don't know if you no, I don't I didn't get that. I just I'm asking for comments. [1:03:37, 1:03:44]: I got I got a comment that I thought she had one I wanted to defer. So it's hers I honestly I have Henry County water. [1:03:45, 1:04:05]: I don't have stock breach water. So I know so break it down for me in terms of how does our water rate compare to uh what Henry County's uh is charging so the citizens can actually see. I mean this is probably the closest comparison that we can actually uh have. [1:04:05, 1:04:10]: Is it the new or the old? Uh well this is what [1:04:10, 1:04:24]: This does not include the new rate. Gotcha. Our our current base rate for residential water, and that's from zero to four thousand gallons, is six dollars. Mm-hmm. Henry County's is twelve dollars and thirty nine cents. [1:04:25, 1:04:28]: base rate and that's from zero to six thousand gallons. [1:04:28, 1:04:37]: So anything from zero to six thousand gallons, you're paying at twelve dollars and thirty nine cents as a base rate. For City Stockbridge, you're paying six dollars as a base rate. [1:04:37, 1:04:40]: their volumetric rate, rate per thousand [1:04:41, 1:04:46]: Um for city of Stockbridge between four thousand and nine thousand gallons. [1:04:47, 1:04:50]: It is eight dollars and fifty one cents. [1:04:51, 1:04:52]: And the [1:04:53, 1:04:56]: per thousand rate for Henry County. [1:04:57, 1:05:00]: for six thousand to ten thousand gallons. [1:05:00, 1:05:02]: It's six dollars and thirty seven cents. [1:05:02, 1:05:03]: per gallon. [1:05:03, 1:05:08]: So while it's a slight increase on the volumetric side above four thousand [1:05:08, 1:05:11]: It's substantially almost fifty percent. [1:05:11, 1:05:12]: Thanks. [1:05:13, 1:05:15]: Mm a hundred percent lower than [1:05:15, 1:05:16]: the base rate on the other side. [1:05:17, 1:05:20]: Okay. The second a follow up question. In terms of [1:05:20, 1:05:22]: Uh notification. [1:05:22, 1:05:41]: Uh if this rate were to be approved, w when would it go into effect and then what is the notification process for notifying the January one of the twenty seventeen and it will be noted on everybody's water bill that there would be an increase you also post the uh public notice in the paper. [1:05:42, 1:06:01]: Okay, so there'll be a public notice in the paper and it would go on their bill uh I guess December bill to let them know that uh that was w uh is that standard like thirty days or is there more time than that than normally? I yeah yeah, I think this is the standard time frame because this is typically we typically would gauge ours in the same manner that um [1:06:02, 1:06:06]: Henry County does theirs. So this is about the same time they do this every year, so we we [1:06:07, 1:06:08]: Respond accordingly. [1:06:08, 1:06:12]: Any clarification. Uh maybe it's just a small thing here. [1:06:12, 1:06:32]: When you mention this you s you mention say gallons uh uh price per gallon and I'm and when I way I'm reading this is actually a price per thousand gallons is zero thousand gallons. So so y so really zero to four thousand gallons is five what I had I'm just picking out a number here, five eighty two per thousand uh gallons. Not [1:06:32, 1:06:48]: per gallon. It's not a si like a six hour chocolate per every gallon of water. Thank you for the clarification. That's the rate per thousand gallons. Alright. I want to make sure I understand. Yes. Thank you very much for the case. Thank you for the clarification of the chance. So are you this is what I'm gathering. So you're saying [1:06:48, 1:06:50]: Regardless, there's an ordinance. [1:06:50, 1:06:52]: And it's and it's going to happen. [1:06:53, 1:07:03]: There will be an increase based on the increase by Henry County. Right. Um our ordinance is tied to their rates. So whatever their rate increase is, our rate follows accordingly. [1:07:04, 1:07:20]: They opted to rate raise the rates two percent. Now keep in mind Henry County also has a millage on your tax that they pull from as well. We don't have that. So and and and so that two percent is in addition to the millage that everyone pays for on their annual tax bill. [1:07:20, 1:07:36]: Um obviously we don't have property, we don't have that millage increase as well. So for us, you know, we do need to help supplement some again. Again for us again a lot of it is just our the appreciation costs that we've talked about that that it we need to make sure we're covering those appreciation costs from our aging system. [1:07:38, 1:07:58]: And this is the standard notifications that has been done in previous years I've been doing this. This is the sa this will be the second year that we've done this because Henry County has always gone up five percent every single year, and so ours has been going up that way. And what um happened over the last several years is uh [1:07:57, 1:08:17]: The general fund was bearing the cost of all the insurance, all the legal fees, any administrative that the general fund had been bearing those costs as opposed to the expenses being allocated to enterprise funds as it should have been. I mean they have like uh four [1:08:17, 1:08:37]: forty percent in water sewer of our inventory or assets that we paid insurance on that the general fund have been paid. So by us trying to, you know, level a playing field, I guess, for lack of better words, then um, you know, this is really what how we can align [1:08:37, 1:08:52]: And like I said, I really feel that they're um you know, they come off of user fees, which is the revenue that they generate and you know, likewise they ought to be paying the insurance that we you know, the general fund has historically been paying. [1:08:54, 1:08:57]: Mayor Protein? Yes sir. This is the last thing. [1:08:57, 1:08:58]: For me. [1:08:59, 1:09:02]: Is that the county's going two percent and we're going five percent? [1:09:03, 1:09:08]: The county supplies sixty percent of our water. We only supply forty percent of the citizens' stock rate. [1:09:08, 1:09:16]: So when we s we we're looking at an interesting situation here in Stockbridge when it comes to expenditures and services that are rendered to the citizens. [1:09:17, 1:09:20]: We we we got an interesting situation here, so I [1:09:20, 1:09:23]: Wish we could have ha at least had this in a newsletter or something. [1:09:23, 1:09:26]: before bringing it to the council tonight. [1:09:26, 1:09:40]: I wish we could have done this a different way, but needless to say that and you say the increase is gonna happen because of the county, then w I think we need to get that information out to uh to the citizens because then it's not a council decision. [1:09:40, 1:09:44]: It's a decision because of the interest uh because of the raising what's going on with the county. [1:09:44, 1:09:45]: He's not a calcedon. [1:09:46, 1:09:47]: The two percent [1:09:47, 1:09:54]: is based on your ordinance. The additional three percent on top of that would that's why we're coming to the coun otherwise there's no need to come to the council. [1:09:54, 1:10:14]: In all sincerity, you know,'cause it again it follows suit with the ordinance and we're just giving you notification it's gonna it's gonna increase by such and such amount per our ordinance. It's already in place. But because we're asking to go uh beyond the two percent, our ordinance is tied to whatever rate they increase at. So if they increase that two percent and we say we're we're gonna stay at two percent, then there'd be no need to come back to council. [1:10:14, 1:10:21]: Yes sir. I I understand. I just want to make sure for the public I want to make sure we just did uh [1:10:22, 1:10:27]: say that that was what their increase was going to be just probably at the annual [1:10:27, 1:10:30]: That's yeah, at the municipal dinner I had a conversation with the um [1:10:31, 1:10:32]: Um [1:10:32, 1:10:33]: But uh [1:10:33, 1:10:38]: water authority representative and they just recently published that information. So [1:10:38, 1:10:43]: Any more comments? Oh w well excuse me. Yes, go right ahead. [1:10:43, 1:10:49]: Um I I just want clarification again. I know you uh Mr Harris you had read off numbers of the county. [1:10:50, 1:10:51]: And just for clarification [1:10:52, 1:11:12]: then right now if someone is receiving county water instead of the city water, they're paying they're actually paying more than what the citizens in the that live in the city that have the city water is paying, is that correct? Yes. And what is that m what's the difference in the amount again? Well again the base rate for that initial four thousand gallons [1:11:12, 1:11:16]: And that rate per thousand gallons at the county is [1:11:17, 1:11:30]: twelve dollars and well yeah, well the the base rate residential rate per thousand is four dollars and sixty eight cents and the residential rate from the um from the city is five dollars and fifty four cents but their base rate [1:11:30, 1:11:37]: is for the county is twelve dollars and thirty nine cents. The base rate for the City Stockbridge is six dollars even. [1:11:37, 1:11:43]: And we have, again, part of the way the lowest base rate of any jurisdiction in the area. [1:11:43, 1:11:57]: Okay. So once we increase to the f if we were to increase to the five percent, would we be m right around the same ballpark figure or would still be a little bit below the county? My my c uh as a city still lower. [1:11:58, 1:12:15]: Yeah. Would still be below, correct? We would be. We'd be uh their monthly cost again, we had a breakdown of monthly costs for a typical household using four thousand gallons per month in the city in Henry County be about thirty one dollars, and the city stockbridge would be about twenty eight dollars. Okay so we're still about three dollars less. Thank you. [1:12:16, 1:12:20]: That answered my question. It still be less. [1:12:21, 1:12:23]: All right. [1:12:23, 1:12:29]: We have a resolution in front of us here, uh right, and uh so I need a motion to accept this uh increase. [1:12:31, 1:12:31]: Their motion. [1:12:34, 1:12:35]: No motion? [1:12:37, 1:12:37]: Okay. [1:12:42, 1:13:02]: All right, I tell you what. Mayor Pont. I was gonna say I'll make a motion then we'll go and then we'll put on record. But go right in. I I was about to say before I even make the motion. People don't like to give people increases, just so you know. I'm telling based off of the numbers and we're still under what the county, if you have county word and paying, I understand the need and I understand we have to [1:13:02, 1:13:11]: increase. Um it's just something we have to do. Mayor Pro Tem I make a motion to approve the resolution adopting water [1:13:11, 1:13:15]: and sewer rates for calendar year twenty seventeen. [1:13:15, 1:13:18]: Is there a second? All right, there we go. Any further discussion? [1:13:18, 1:13:18]: Yes. [1:13:19, 1:13:19]: Correct? [1:13:20, 1:13:21]: I say once again [1:13:22, 1:13:29]: I'm removing myself from this vote and I'm voting no because I want the citizens, not just this room. [1:13:29, 1:13:34]: Everyone to have an understanding of what we're doing before we m before I make that decision. [1:13:34, 1:13:36]: All right. Any further discussion? [1:13:36, 1:13:37]: All in favor of the motion please indicate? [1:13:39, 1:13:39]: Kenneth. [1:13:39, 1:13:40]: All opposed? [1:13:41, 1:14:01]: Before one it passes. Thank you. Thank you. And you know, the SAP will certainly work on making sure we get the all the notifications and much other information we get out via our website, Facebook page, and other mechanisms necessary to make sure the information is disseminated. Thank you. Thank you. Um so ba based on if I got this right, based on the uh adjustment to the agenda [1:14:01, 1:14:08]: Uh actually what's up next will be Mr. Stark to talk to us about the mission and vision. Mr. Riley, stand fast, we'll get you next. [1:14:09, 1:14:11]: So Mr Stark, come forward please. [1:14:12, 1:14:15]: He's gonna discuss our mission and vision statement that we've come up with. [1:14:17, 1:14:18]: All right. [1:14:20, 1:14:23]: Well, good evening. Nice to be with you all. [1:14:24, 1:14:26]: Uh I wanted to uh [1:14:28, 1:14:38]: The uh purpose of our of my being here this evening is to provide an update to you all for the work that we did at the last meeting. [1:14:39, 1:14:42]: with respect to establishing a vision [1:14:42, 1:14:54]: and a mission and a set of values for the city of Stockbridge. So this evening what I wanted to do is uh present to you what we developed. There'd be some been some modifications to it. [1:14:55, 1:15:00]: Um and share these updates with you and uh see if they meet with your approval [1:15:01, 1:15:02]: uh to move forward. [1:15:02, 1:15:02]: Okay. [1:15:03, 1:15:05]: Um so [1:15:06, 1:15:15]: The vision that we um developed for the city of Stockbridge, and this was after looking at a lot of other communities in the area. [1:15:15, 1:15:24]: But we felt like this would really represent the community well is to be the most progressive business and family oriented community in Metro Atlanta. [1:15:25, 1:15:28]: with a focus on enhanced quality of life initiatives. [1:15:28, 1:15:32]: which promote a sustainable live work play environment. [1:15:33, 1:15:36]: So that is that's what we're aiming for. [1:15:37, 1:15:39]: as a community. That's our [1:15:39, 1:15:42]: That's the light on the hill. That's where we're going. [1:15:43, 1:15:51]: And to the degree obviously that you all put forth programs and initiatives to be business friendly and to be family friendly, then we are [1:15:51, 1:15:53]: Living out our vision. [1:15:53, 1:15:54]: No. [1:15:54, 1:15:58]: This is what we developed last time vision, the mission. [1:15:58, 1:16:05]: The mission just as a reminder is really um the vision is where you're going in the future. The the mission [1:16:06, 1:16:07]: is what you do today. [1:16:08, 1:16:13]: So this mission reads to provide visionary leadership, superior municipal services, [1:16:14, 1:16:25]: that enhance the quality of life for citizens while creating a welcoming business atmosphere focused on sustainability and expansion of tourism and cultural events. [1:16:25, 1:16:34]: So a little bit of a mouthful, but if somebody asked us what what do we do, what's our mission, this is what we wake up in the morning and do. [1:16:35, 1:16:37]: The sist the stopbridge mission. [1:16:39, 1:16:42]: The value uh the values that we developed um [1:16:43, 1:16:47]: interestingly, um ended up spelling the word peace, P E A C E [1:16:48, 1:16:53]: professionalism, adaptability, excellence, communications and ethics. And as I mentioned last time we met [1:16:54, 1:17:08]: Uh values are like guardrails and if you're traversing a uh winding mountain road you don't want to fall off the mountain so you have guardrails. So these values [1:17:08, 1:17:13]: are like guardrails for us. They keep us on the road where we need to be. [1:17:14, 1:17:15]: Um [1:17:15, 1:17:20]: Professionalism, we basically said we will value those we encounter with respect. [1:17:20, 1:17:24]: fairness, compassion and we will listen and understand to their interests. [1:17:25, 1:17:30]: We will not allow for personal attacks, insults, defaming, or derogatory language. [1:17:32, 1:17:35]: Um that that demeans others. [1:17:36, 1:17:38]: So professionalism. [1:17:38, 1:17:44]: excellence we will perform our duties in a manner that exudes outstanding performance. [1:17:44, 1:17:46]: In every facet of our organization [1:17:46, 1:17:48]: We will not stand for mediocrity. [1:17:50, 1:17:52]: And if we see unacceptable performance [1:17:53, 1:17:57]: On our teams, we will speak out and discuss paths to excellence. [1:17:59, 1:18:05]: adaptability. We will remain flexible in meeting the changing needs and desires of our citizens. [1:18:06, 1:18:17]: There will be no excuses for not being flexible and available for citizens and other urgent priorities, but we will not let excessive adaptability hamper excellence. So we want to be excellent. [1:18:18, 1:18:20]: Yet we want to be adaptable at the same time. [1:18:21, 1:18:25]: C is communication. This is a big one for any city or any county. [1:18:26, 1:18:27]: uh staff [1:18:28, 1:18:33]: Council, we will be transparent in our actions and promote collaboration. [1:18:33, 1:18:43]: and unity at every level of our organization to ensure success in attaining our strategic uh objectives. We are not in favor of communication silos. [1:18:44, 1:18:47]: of unclear communication or [1:18:47, 1:18:51]: My idea is best thinking. We don't want that. [1:18:52, 1:19:03]: Lastly, uh ethics we will always operate in a manner that's honest, respectful, truthful, and transparent. If we see or hear of unethical behavior, we will aggressively speak and out [1:19:04, 1:19:06]: A and act out against it. [1:19:07, 1:19:22]: Um that that concludes the the the values part. The really only other question uh for you all to consider going forward is how you want to uh communicate this vision and mission and these values to the citizens. [1:19:23, 1:19:26]: um how you want to come into agreement [1:19:26, 1:19:30]: as a as a s as a city staff, as a as a council. [1:19:31, 1:19:31]: Um [1:19:32, 1:19:38]: And how you might want to demonstrate we talked about perhaps Una plaque or some sort of signed document. [1:19:38, 1:19:41]: uh that we would have here in City Hall. So we want to promote these values. [1:19:42, 1:19:44]: And let the citizens know this is the kind of city we want to be. [1:19:45, 1:19:47]: And want to promote our vision so the city [1:19:47, 1:19:56]: Um and the citizens see where it is we we intend to take the city. So that uh concludes um the thoughts. [1:19:56, 1:20:00]: And the work on the project. Any any questions? [1:20:00, 1:20:02]: Yeah, I'll go go right in there. [1:20:02, 1:20:09]: I'd I'd like to thank you for the great work that you have put in and that the team um contributed to. [1:20:10, 1:20:16]: I think the one thing personally that I wanna say to the citizens is that we wanna set the bar high. Mm-hmm. [1:20:17, 1:20:21]: And I think uh the mission and the vision sets the bar high. [1:20:21, 1:20:23]: I think too many times um [1:20:24, 1:20:34]: that word mediocrity has been associated with the city and no longer do we want that to be the charge. We want the charge to be when they talk about the best [1:20:35, 1:20:55]: of Metro Atlanta we want the city of Stockbridge mentioned in that breath every single time. And you know if you're gonna aim they always say shoot for the move you know because you wanna be the best at what what we do in every single capacity, starting with the basic government services, municipal services, deliver [1:20:54, 1:21:14]: those in a in a capacity that is uh on a superior level at uh at its best and I always talk to the team on my personal behalf about uh customer service. I think the first thing that we do is uh we serve the citizens in a in that capacity and [1:21:14, 1:21:26]: And from no matter whether someone's out on a route with public works, that person's is serving in a capacity of that. So I appreciate the work that you did and I'm in wholehearted support of aiming high. [1:21:28, 1:21:38]: Okay. Council? Go right in, please. Thank you again. Um, this is excellent. Um thank you for taking the time. [1:21:39, 1:21:59]: You know, even just with this council, I mean, I just love the you know, we just have to adapt. Um, each one of us are different. Um, when you become a part of a team, um we're all are different, but once we have this vision, a mission statement and we learn to um work together and look at each [1:21:59, 1:21:59]: [4920.2, 4922.1]: um person as a teen. [1:22:02, 1:22:04]: Mm. And on a team everybody's gonna be different. [1:22:05, 1:22:15]: So you have to look at that person and try to say, How can I adapt? How can I work with that person? So this is a s good start for us and for those that um [1:22:16, 1:22:21]: Um come on board. Hopefully you'll s see this as well because we'll have a new mayor soon. [1:22:21, 1:22:26]: And then that way with this council we've basically had um eleven months now. [1:22:27, 1:22:29]: So um and it's still growing. Um [1:22:29, 1:22:36]: And that's why we're coming up with this. So hopefully I think we we're learning each other. I mean it still takes gonna take time. [1:22:37, 1:22:45]: But that's what it takes. And in order for this to be broken down with the peace, and I thank our attorney for identifying that [1:22:46, 1:22:48]: Um this is a great start for us. [1:22:48, 1:23:01]: And I mean this is in in in order to get where we wanted to go to move, you have to start somewhere. So again, uh hopefully I'm just saying this strongly for, you know, others just to know that this is a start and [1:23:02, 1:23:03]: Number two, which is the A [1:23:04, 1:23:05]: Yeah, they're dare. [1:23:06, 1:23:07]: Thank you so very much. [1:23:08, 1:23:09]: In other comments. [1:23:09, 1:23:13]: Yeah, Mayor Pro Tem, I want all the citizens to know this is tangible. [1:23:13, 1:23:15]: So you all can access this. [1:23:15, 1:23:20]: So now you all can hold us accountable to every word that's written on this paperwork. Uhhuh. [1:23:21, 1:23:21]: So [1:23:22, 1:23:22]: Short. [1:23:25, 1:23:26]: [5007.4, 5009.5]: What w what it is is that um [1:23:30, 1:23:31]: You want something to say, sir, I'm sorry? I did. [1:23:32, 1:23:52]: Well what I was saying is I you know now that it's been presented, if this is something that the full council is in agreement to, I think it'd be appropriate to move towards an adoption of these as the new formalized vision and mission um and value statements. Actually that's what I was gonna say. [1:23:52, 1:24:05]: on this particular statement, this mission and vision. If we have n no other comments and we're all in agreement, we might as well go ahead and vote to accept this now and then make sure we make it publicly known uh and and start advertising or bringing that out in that's what I was gonna say. [1:24:05, 1:24:12]: [5052.8, 5072.8]: You know, to have it framed in place throughout all of our public facilities so anyone coming into the facility understands and knows this is a direction, this is what you know the current um um governing body has determined is the direction we're going in and this is how we're going to get there and these are the values we're going to espouse as we as we function in the day to day process. So we [1:24:32, 1:24:39]: We would like to go through and um once it's adopted go back, get things framed, get them placed throughout the city buildings. [1:24:40, 1:24:55]: Absolutely. Sounds great to me. But anyway, on that note though, is there uh is there a motion to accept all this if the council is in agreement? You want to make a motion, sir? Yes, I'll make a motion to accept the mission and vision statement as outlined to move forward to the next step. Is there a second? [1:24:55, 1:25:15]: There we go. Any further discussion? Yeah, just change this around where it says peace. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. It says pace. Oh. We we we're a little more shifted down. You you um the motion I believe was for vision admission. Did you want to also include the value? [1:25:15, 1:25:25]: Yes, it's vision vision, mission and values to move to the next step. Okay. That'll take another second to make sure we got that right. Is that another second down here? [1:25:26, 1:25:28]: Okay. Any further discussion? [1:25:28, 1:25:29]: All favor please indicate. [1:25:30, 1:25:33]: There we go. Unanimous. Thank you, Mr. Starr. Appreciate your time and effort on that. [1:25:33, 1:25:34]: No problem. [1:25:35, 1:25:44]: Mr. Riley, you're up next, sir. Council consideration resolution to approve the senior user single user version of GIS operating program. [1:25:56, 1:26:07]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor Pro Temp and members of the Council. Donald Riley of the Finance Department Purchasing Division here to present items numbers eleven and twelve. [1:26:09, 1:26:10]: I can [1:26:10, 1:26:14]: Uh present them together or separately? How do you want me to proceed? [1:26:15, 1:26:28]: Okay, good point. I'm I'm sorry about that. Um it uh do one at a time please. It's council consideration of resolution to approve bid award to Mays Row uh Mays Road Covert. I'm sorry about that. No problem. All right, yeah do one at a time please. Okay [1:26:29, 1:26:45]: Th the first item number eleven is for sixteen RFP O nine two eight one six F D C for Mays Road covert improvements. I had a total of seven bidders and it came in on November fourth, twenty sixteen. [1:26:46, 1:26:56]: The awarded vendor is McElroy out of Zebulon, Georgia, in the amount of seventy seven thousand two hundred and ninety two dollars and twenty cents. [1:26:57, 1:27:07]: Falcon design had helped vet this particular vendor and so I don't I see that we should go forward with the recommendation of awarding to [1:27:07, 1:27:08]: Mikhail Roy. [1:27:09, 1:27:12]: Okay. Um questions, Council. [1:27:12, 1:27:24]: Yeah, and what capacity did Falcon I'm sorry, Mr. Go go right in. What capacity did Falcon help them? They were the actual um consultant with the bid, with the construction of the bid. [1:27:25, 1:27:30]: And they also did the design for the um the design for the uh repair work as well. [1:27:33, 1:27:37]: [5257.4, 5261.3]: to the citizens this is something that's been out there for quite some time now. [1:27:41, 1:27:45]: And I'm good I'm glad to see that we're finally about to move forward. [1:27:46, 1:27:55]: uh with this project because this road pro has been closed off for quite some time now. And I think that we worked long and hard in understanding that [1:27:55, 1:28:06]: This was something that occurred. It was right between the city and the county line. There was a dispute between whether it was on county property or whether it was on city property. [1:28:07, 1:28:21]: And the city as a team decided that we wanted to move forward because the citizens come first when uh we did not get the support from Henry County that we had expected. So I appreciate that. Thank you. [1:28:21, 1:28:23]: Mayor Purton. [1:28:24, 1:28:38]: I move that we approve the um council consideration of resolution to approve the bid for Mays Road culvert, um bid number sixteen RFP zero nine two eight one six F D C. Your second. [1:28:40, 1:28:42]: [5322.6, 5327.5]: [1:28:48, 1:28:50]: Um excuse me. [1:28:51, 1:29:00]: Again, I wanna thank Michael, our city manager, for working um hard on this because we keep bringing up in our public works. Um [1:29:01, 1:29:02]: Committee meeting. [1:29:02, 1:29:08]: And I know he's been working very hard, so I thank you guys because it is definitely an eyesore. [1:29:08, 1:29:13]: to be driving out East Atlanta, um coming into the city limits and it's right there. [1:29:14, 1:29:20]: So thank you guys so much. Um so that way we can go ahead and get this done. But I did want the citizens to know that we were [1:29:20, 1:29:25]: discussing this continuously at our public works meeting, um so it didn't go unnoticed. [1:29:26, 1:29:32]: And I'm just glad we're here now that we're gonna be able to um go ahead and move forward with it. So again, thank you guys so much. [1:29:32, 1:29:33]: Any further discussion? [1:29:35, 1:29:39]: Okay, we've got a motion on the floor in a second to res uh to accept this bid for McCleroy. [1:29:40, 1:29:41]: Um [1:29:42, 1:29:43]: quit the company of lose coal. [1:29:45, 1:29:47]: So uh all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:29:48, 1:29:49]: Okay, so now this is thank you very much. [1:29:51, 1:29:53]: All right. Now uh Mr Riley. [1:29:53, 1:29:57]: Council consideration for a resolution to approve a single user version of GIS. [1:29:58, 1:30:01]: Yes. I have before me this uh [1:30:02, 1:30:12]: The user version of GIS Who's maintenance contract, this maintenance contract expired in twenty thirteen and we had several updates since then. [1:30:12, 1:30:32]: The single user actually cost us about eleven thousand seven hundred dollars. So we're trying to use a multi-user version in which it will allow seven users to actually access the software. And we have two particular vendors that we're wanting to use. ESR [1:30:32, 1:30:35]: R I as well as GIS Inc. [1:30:35, 1:30:37]: And the reason for that is because [1:30:38, 1:30:40]: They are these [1:30:40, 1:30:43]: It's a split award so that we can use [1:30:45, 1:30:52]: so that we can save money as well as get the services back to us within a timely reason. Because [1:30:54, 1:31:00]: ER ESRI is out of California and it's a sole source version of that. [1:31:00, 1:31:08]: is GIS is based out of Florida, so we want to actually split the services so that we can have [1:31:08, 1:31:12]: in the amount of fifty six thousand five hundred and seventy six dollars. [1:31:16, 1:31:17]: Okay. [1:31:19, 1:31:19]: Questions. [1:31:22, 1:31:27]: All right. Uh you may need to go okay, so otherwise let's let's think here. [1:31:28, 1:31:38]: Liberty Technology which does our IT services, you're involved in this as well. Correct. You said SoulSource comes out of California. This company comes out of California. But you also mentioned something about Miami. [1:31:38, 1:31:43]: I believe it. Out of Jacksonville, Florida. Jacksonville Florida. What's G I S Inc [1:31:44, 1:31:50]: Okay will provide us with the data migration setup the and the training. [1:31:51, 1:32:08]: For the particular software. Okay, so the training comes the training for the individual that will run the program comes out of Jacksonville, Florida. Yes. Not not the individuals out of California. Even though s even though since they're sole source uh sole source, they also know how to train if they're uh that but it is too far away, I would imagine. Yes, sir. Okay. [1:32:08, 1:32:13]: Okay. Um Mayor Partun if I may. Yes sir. Um and again [1:32:14, 1:32:34]: the the functionality of this software is for you know utilizing again it talks about some of the handheld device we'll be able to use out in the field to be able to um get more accurate up to date coordinates on of our our our utility structure, our water lines, our stormwater lines, our wastewater lines [1:32:34, 1:32:54]: lines, good conditions, be able to map all those things. So eventually we're moving towards and it's the process has been started, but we were looking to move towards being able to have a fully integrated, comprehensive map of our utility system, and that's what this will aid towards. And it should also be noted that the funding for this would be through our SPLOS, not through our general fund. Okay. Good. [1:32:54, 1:32:55]: Good to know that. [1:32:55, 1:32:57]: Uh any questions at all? [1:32:57, 1:32:58]: For me, but [1:32:58, 1:33:07]: Okay. Well, no c questions now. Is there a a motion to accept this these different contracts as we go forward on our GIS program? [1:33:09, 1:33:11]: The motion on the floor to accept this resolution. [1:33:12, 1:33:32]: Mayor Portem. Yes, ma'am. I have one question. Um it says that the training plan includes sixteen days of on-site training for staff. Right now we have a GIS um person, Mr. Um Justin Kilgore. Will he be the only one being trained or uh are we doing cross training? Will it be public works? [1:33:32, 1:33:41]: Who's gonna who's gonna receive this training? Yeah, I think we're gonna look at having multiple individuals trained certainly and depending on the time frame for hiring the um [1:33:42, 1:34:02]: economic development and community development position, we certainly want to have them involved in it as well. So it just depends on um how soon they can get it scheduled. It takes some time'cause we have to get everything ordered, everything has to be come in first before we can do it. So hopefully from a timing standpoint, it will likely be about the first part of the year as we're getting ready to get into the holidays. So hopefully by then we'll have all the staff um in place. [1:34:02, 1:34:06]: But it certainly would be intent to have multiple individuals trained on this. [1:34:06, 1:34:07]: on the software. [1:34:07, 1:34:13]: And so what the software and the equipment or whatever is being used to map out [1:34:13, 1:34:20]: Um, who's gonna use that? Is that gonna be the public works department or will it be a single individual? I'm trying to figure out [1:34:21, 1:34:27]: why uh I understand we have a single user now on the software and we're gonna upgrade [1:34:27, 1:34:47]: And I understand that, but uh do we have people in place to utilize this system? That's the direction we're moving towards, you know, to be able to have more people, you know, so people within our our water guys know where their water systems are far better than anyone else's. You know, so having a person designated, much like with our sewer person, they have a person they go out and do other sewer [1:34:47, 1:35:07]: repairs and what needs to be done, but if it's a they have individuals that are specifically trained for the camera use. Um and there is some cross training that's taking place with that now, but we usually have a couple people that can do that in the same manner. We'll have somebody with wastewater, somebody with stormwater, somebody with um code enforcement, yeah, that's another good point. Co enforcement [1:35:07, 1:35:16]: Um and planning as well. Those are some of the big ones um from a code enforcement. That's one of the components that they've been trying to tie together. So when they're out in the field they'll be able to be able to pull up [1:35:17, 1:35:18]: Um whether it's [1:35:19, 1:35:25]: Where the new the the nearest sewer is, but information like that that they need um have readily available as well. That's a good point. [1:35:25, 1:35:27]: Thank you. [1:35:27, 1:35:31]: Yes sir, go right ahead, please. Okay, ladies and gentlemen. Hopefully y'all are paying attention. [1:35:32, 1:35:40]: Did y'all hear our city manager say that we're adding a economic development director position which we're looking at doing for the city? [1:35:41, 1:35:45]: this uh particular uh measure put forth [1:35:45, 1:36:05]: That person will be able to use this along with uh the community service position. The city is growing and as part of the city growing, uh we're trying to put forth the best technology and the best equipment and uh technology for these very capable individuals to use coming to the city. [1:36:05, 1:36:08]: [5769.2, 5770.3]: This is it. [1:36:11, 1:36:16]: Okay. Any uh comments. I don't know. I think down here. Okay. [1:36:16, 1:36:33]: At this point we don't have a list. I'm sorry, where you go go ahead. At this point we don't have a list of who all is going to be trained once this is approved. Because it's not coming out of general funds anyway, it's gonna be coming out of squash. So the funds funding is there, so we don't actually know but who's gonna be trained on this right now. [1:36:34, 1:36:42]: We can give you the names, we can get people for you. I mean they obviously are co enforcing folks or there'd be a water person, a wastewater person, a stormwater person as well. [1:36:44, 1:36:52]: I I'm I'm not sure. No, no, it's fine because we we talked about GIS before here in the city and we talked about [1:36:53, 1:37:10]: getting trained people in place and making sure that we have the proper people in place. So when we bring in this training, we just want I personally just want to make sure that we ha we're training the proper people for the position so we don't have to worry about lack of training, try to train somebody that needs training. [1:37:11, 1:37:13]: [5834.5, 5845.1]: So when we bring people in to train, I wanna make sure the classroom is in there for people that are training to train those that are gonna be trained'cause it's gonna be facilitating the uh the system. [1:37:25, 1:37:28]: That that's what that's where I'm going with it. Okay. [1:37:29, 1:37:40]: Mayor Putin. Yes, ma'am, go right in. I move that we approve the GIS update and the amount of fifty six thousand five hundred and seventy six dollars that will come out of our bus funds. Okay. Any further discussion? [1:37:41, 1:37:44]: All in favor of the uh motion please indicate. [1:37:45, 1:37:46]: Casey Nellis, great. [1:37:46, 1:37:48]: Thank you, Mr. [1:37:49, 1:37:55]: What's next now would be the public hearing in reference to the first reading of the proposed two thousand seventeen operating budget. [1:37:56, 1:38:14]: And it says presented by me. But um what Michael Harris says, the city manager's gonna pass out to each one of the council members is this just in case you didn't have a copy, well some of the budget discussion items which we'll go through first. Uh we'll cover those items first and then if there are any additional items to cover be covered tonight we'll go around the horn to do that as well. [1:38:14, 1:38:20]: Uh what I wanna mention to you is that uh I presented this I worked with let me say this. I worked with uh [1:38:20, 1:38:24]: uh Mr. Harris uh and with uh Linda Neighbors our treasurer. [1:38:25, 1:38:45]: over this a couple of different uh meetings and um and obviously you as counselors you well know we have excellent staff and uh they gave me recomm and recommendations and thoughts on how this should go and what uh what how should this should be presented and what should go in these numbers. Some of those ideas and suggestions I listened to and some I did not. Okay? Some of those [1:38:45, 1:39:05]: things I I knew that it would be uh that are in the budget right now and that's what we're gonna talk about that may be consideration that the the council may not want to do certain things that I put in there. That's quite alright. That's why you have an a operating budget, you have a a hearing with the public and you discuss this. I'm perfectly fine with that. [1:39:04, 1:39:24]: Okay. What I also want to say to the council, help me uh help ourselves in this aspect. When we discuss these budget items, please try to keep the comments to at least two comments per item. Uh so we don't get too long winded and and and back and forth on these particular issues. What I also want to note and I wanna say congratulations to um the [1:39:24, 1:39:30]: the the two mayor of the candidates that are going to be in a runoff here on December sixth. They're in a chamber at this point. [1:39:30, 1:39:50]: Regina Lewis Ward and and Judy Neal. Both these individuals, uh one one of the both these individuals will be around for a little bit longer, and one of these two individuals will be uh be nominated excuse me, be elected as a mayor and will be the mayor most likely sworn in prior to the fact of the final budget being approved. So they're here as well in the audience too and and probably well intended. [1:39:50, 1:40:00]: tune to what's going on with this budget because it's something that one or the two of them will have to be dealing with in the two thousand seventeen year as well. And by the way, congratulations to you ladies for making it this far. [1:40:01, 1:40:21]: Um now. So on that note, once again I'd like for I'd like for us Michael asked the council to come together and come meet with him and with Linda and give some of your comments to the budget itself. So you have some things in front of you. I'd like for us to go through those things, dis discuss them, have have a debate if need be and whatever the case may be. Discuss it. [1:40:21, 1:40:23]: we need to vote on things or change things, we can do that. [1:40:24, 1:40:41]: Obviously. And then once we go through this list once again, if there are other things that uh council members need to say or didn't get a chance to sit down with Michael and or w with with Linda, we need to go through those tonight to finalize the first reading and the first adjustment, so be it, we can do that as well. Okay. [1:40:41, 1:40:42]: So [1:40:42, 1:40:57]: Um I want to turn it unless there's any uh initial comments by any council member, I'll turn it over to Mr. Harris to go down this list. Okay. And I didn't want to add for you know I thought I forgot about something. I gotta get public uh comments first, Ron, don't I not? What what comes first? I'm sorry. [1:40:57, 1:41:02]: You you can present sort of an overview of the budget and then invite public comment. [1:41:05, 1:41:07]: [6067.5, 6086.9]: Um and again just to to reiterate this is the first hearing, first public hearing of the budget. There will be another hearing on November twenty ninth and right now the adoption is scheduled for December twelfth. Um the budget has been online, it's been published, it's been online for a couple of weeks now for people to look at. [1:41:27, 1:41:28]: Um [1:41:29, 1:41:40]: J just you know, the kind of the highlight points and you can just d the brief overview and just running through the different departments and then from there I'll defer and go into um [1:41:41, 1:41:52]: the specific issue areas. Um governing body um proposed this year a slight increase from two hundred and forty six thousand to two hundred and eighty five thousand. Um [1:41:53, 1:41:56]: uh executive department. Um [1:41:56, 1:42:03]: increase from six hundred and fourteen thousand to seven hundred and thirty nine thousand. Again that does contemplate a few new positions. [1:42:03, 1:42:05]: Um administration [1:42:05, 1:42:12]: a slight increase from one point five eight million to one point seven and again that also contemplates some new positions. [1:42:13, 1:42:17]: IT support and services. Um [1:42:18, 1:42:34]: While it certainly on the surface, look at this is a a a tremendous increase from ninety three thousand to six hundred and ninety thousand, the vast majority of that is for um the phase three of our disaster recovery um system, computer system here at the city. [1:42:35, 1:42:55]: Um which would be about thirty about one hundred and fifty thousand and then another big portion of that increase is the contemplation for um fiber connectivity amongst all the city buildings, run the fire connectivity amongst all the city buildings, and that cost estimates about three hundred and fifty thousand. So when people see that that large [1:42:55, 1:42:57]: increase one to make sure they're clear that there is a [1:42:58, 1:43:00]: It's it it's comprised of those two primary elements. [1:43:01, 1:43:02]: Um [1:43:02, 1:43:09]: A slight decrease in our general government buildings from seven hundred and twenty two thousand to six hundred and seventy two thousand. [1:43:10, 1:43:23]: Uh municipal court again you also see another s dramatic decrease there from seven hundred and eighty two thousand to two hundred and sixty five thousand and this has been brought about by the um city the decision from the county to begin [1:43:23, 1:43:30]: sending all municipal tickets or tickets state on state violations to the state court rather than to our municipal our municipal court, so [1:43:31, 1:43:33]: It's severely reduced our [1:43:33, 1:43:43]: um revenues coming in and so it's subsequently we've had to make some additional changes there, reducing staff and reducing our expenses to to meet what the anticipated new revenues would be coming in. [1:43:45, 1:43:59]: Um police services. Subsequently that went down from what been what was budgeted last year seven fifty five to four hundred, which is um c continues to contemplate additional supplemental police services and there's some still some decisions that need to be made from the council standpoint. [1:43:59, 1:44:06]: Um public works, a state of about balance, about two point two million, state of about two point two million every year. [1:44:07, 1:44:14]: Um city events um increase on based on some of the events that are being proposed from one hundred and ten thousand to two hundred and thirteen thousand. [1:44:15, 1:44:17]: Um parks department [1:44:17, 1:44:32]: Um slight increase, fifty six thousand up to sixty thousand. And again it should also be noted that we are utilizing a lot of our SPLOS funds, SPLOSS park funds to do a lot of the new things that you're seeing in our parks right now will continue. So a lot of this funds that are in parks is primarily for maintenance. [1:44:34, 1:44:35]: Um code enforcement. [1:44:36, 1:44:49]: Um slight decrease from two hundred oh nine um adopted budget last year to one hundred two. A lot of this has to do with we had vehicles need to purchase, purchase those this year. Those aren't in the budget for this year because we had some one time expenditures last year. [1:44:50, 1:45:04]: Um slight increase in our Main Street department. Again we it was budget last year for a half person and now we are the realizing the full a full year of an additional person there in our Main Street program and you're already seeing a lot of the great benefits of what that program is doing. [1:45:04, 1:45:13]: Um and in planning development. Um a slighting well it's it it it again, it looks like a tremendous increase there, but again a lot of that is um [1:45:13, 1:45:16]: involves a number of different plans. Um [1:45:17, 1:45:20]: Opportunity zone plans, overlays, as well as [1:45:20, 1:45:21]: Um [1:45:21, 1:45:22]: I believe some land. [1:45:24, 1:45:38]: Planned acquisitions as well. So we felt that that was from a planning standpoint that was most appropriate to put it in. We can go into those specifics later on, but just wanted to make sure everyone was clear on what you know, when you see those large increases, what you know, what's actually behind them. [1:45:39, 1:45:42]: So that's kind of the just a general overview. [1:45:43, 1:45:50]: Um and that's based on the budget that was prepared by Mayor Pro Tem and submitted by Mayor Pro Tem a couple of weeks back. [1:45:50, 1:46:10]: And speaking with council members and there are going to be a question. Mr Williams, I I I I want to make sure to get the public involved in this. So I'm thinking that they I mean they can go first now and then we can have this minute detailed discussion or we can go to the minute discussion and then they have comments later. But I would like to get to comments initially before we [1:46:10, 1:46:18]: [6379.1, 6379.4]: Mm. [1:46:20, 1:46:22]: Yeah, well they have it's a public hearing. [1:46:23, 1:46:30]: So uh so either we get comments from them now before we go down this list, or we go down the list and then get comments. [1:46:31, 1:46:35]: Oh now they won't be any s once we're going through the budget they [1:46:36, 1:46:49]: All right, we we d I I just want to make that's fine. So you all fle have comments after we go down this list. Right, because so we can Okay, all right, so be it. We can do it that way. I'm flexible. Gotta be. All right, Mike, excuse me. [1:46:51, 1:46:52]: I I should have stopped you go right, sir. [1:46:52, 1:46:53]: Okay. [1:46:54, 1:46:57]: I understand that sir, absolutely. Me too. [1:46:58, 1:46:59]: Perfect. [1:46:59, 1:46:59]: Right. [1:47:00, 1:47:02]: Gonna live it out right now. [1:47:02, 1:47:05]: Okay, going through the list I had an opportunity to speak with um [1:47:06, 1:47:22]: several council members and again I go through the list. There have been some other things that were mentioned to me that we're not on the list now to hit those as well. Um but under some and again these are changes based on what was presented and what was shown on the [1:47:22, 1:47:26]: budget that was um included on the city's website [1:47:27, 1:47:35]: Under governing body um recommendation was made to reduce printing and binding by two thousand dollars. [1:47:36, 1:47:38]: In talking with staff members, we [1:47:38, 1:47:38]: We [1:47:39, 1:47:40]: We think that this could be [1:47:41, 1:47:45]: a a problem knowing I think a lot of the increase was based on the number of [1:47:46, 1:48:05]: um events we had and I'm not sure I think when we reviewed this, I think it's Councilman Robinson and p um G and I had this conversation. I don't think it was showing all of the expenses at the time, but we know we've had a number of additional out outstanding expenses under printing and binding and I'll defer to Madam Clark on where we stand. [1:48:10, 1:48:17]: Yeah, come on. I feel like if there is this abduction made you're gonna end up having a budget amendment along the year, which is something that you don't wanna do. [1:48:19, 1:48:20]: Okay. [1:48:21, 1:48:41]: That's you know again, my my thought here, I I I again I I certainly defer to the process that you know the Mayor Preteminity Council wants to go through. If I take'em one by one, I can go through all of them, you can go back and revisit them. We can address them one at a time and move on to the next. Well, what I what I like to do if we can is the things that you have here in front of us that the council members have come through, you had some discussion. [1:48:41, 1:48:53]: discussion. They go through those and then if this you mentioned and I knew there are a couple of other things that that were they're not on the list and then go through those other things that are not on the list and open it up to the council on the additional things. [1:48:53, 1:48:57]: And then discuss those as well. [1:48:57, 1:49:03]: And then we can go back and just hit'em one by one. Alright, correct answer. All right. Under governing body again, printing binding. [1:49:04, 1:49:10]: Um another item was the council initiatives. Um there was a recommendation to increase it by five thousand [1:49:11, 1:49:29]: Um back to the previous amount of twelve thousand five hundred which would contemplate um two thousand five hundred dollars per council member. Should be noted I noted in my notes that did that did not include uh a an allotment for the mayor that was only for council members, and that's the way it was originally set up I think some two years ago. And it stayed that way. So I want to make sure that was clear. [1:49:30, 1:49:35]: Um also in the governing body adding twenty five hundred dollars for ARC training. [1:49:37, 1:49:38]: Um and [1:49:40, 1:49:45]: A a reduction in the civic events. We were recently notified that the circus [1:49:45, 1:49:54]: that is sponsored by Gas South every year. Um again we were sadly informed recently that they will not they they would not be hosting that that event this year. So [1:49:54, 1:50:04]: Um them and the Mayor's Association of Metropolitan Atlanta. Um typically they've been coming together for the last X number of years to to coordinate that, yes sir. [1:50:05, 1:50:05]: Uh [1:50:05, 1:50:06]: One second, yes sir. [1:50:07, 1:50:12]: When we're using acronyms, could we explain to the public what those acronyms mean, please? [1:50:12, 1:50:16]: Um let me go back. ARC training, that's Atlanta Regional Commission training. [1:50:17, 1:50:17]: Um [1:50:18, 1:50:22]: Add the twenty five hundred dollars for and again the [1:50:23, 1:50:30]: The last one was reduced the civic events by eliminating the five thousand dollars that had been allocated for the circus. [1:50:32, 1:50:46]: Um moving on, administration. Um are we gonna be able to Yeah we're gonna comment after I'm gonna hit them all, then we'll come back and hit them one by one. So you get an opportunity. You y everybody will get a chance to talk, guaranteed. Along those same lines, um [1:50:47, 1:50:48]: contract services [1:50:49, 1:50:55]: is an area and we've had some discussion about this previously where we have um [1:50:56, 1:51:16]: Um partnership community partnerships have been typically listed in this area and so the recommendation was to add the five thousand dollars from the circus into the contract services and utilize of that five thousand utilize two thousand of that to go toward the booster clubs and much the same [1:51:16, 1:51:27]: same manner that we saw this evening and the remaining three thousand dollars would go towards other um community partners that provide charitable services and um here within for citizens within the city. [1:51:27, 1:51:38]: Um the addition to that when it's not on your list was in reference to the public information officer. Um that was a uh that was a position that had been previously discussed. [1:51:38, 1:51:47]: And the budget contemplated removing that position, so that was one that was asked the recommendation made that that position be added back on. [1:51:48, 1:51:54]: Um under courts um recommendation was made to increase the print and binding by four hundred dollars. [1:51:55, 1:51:56]: Um under police. [1:51:57, 1:51:59]: Uh there's recommendation to reduce the amount [1:52:00, 1:52:11]: uh fifty reduced that to re reduce the budget about fifty thousand to eliminate the those police officers that currently are used in our parks to patrol our parks. [1:52:12, 1:52:22]: Um ifin Public Works uh recommendation to reduce overtime by ten thousand dollars from twenty thousand now down to ten thousand dollars. [1:52:23, 1:52:32]: Also under public works at thirty thousand dollars for landscaping, for interchange, landscaping at State Route one hundred thirty eight and Hudson Bridge Road. [1:52:32, 1:52:49]: And under city events, um again pretty in pink, it's uh it was a new item that came up this year. Um it was to keep that, keep it at the five thousand but wanted to designate that half of those funds, twenty five hundred would go toward a luncheon, and another half twenty five hundred would go towards a walk. [1:52:50, 1:53:00]: Um food truck, there was recommendation to reduce that amount from this year it's twenty one thousand down to ten thousand. I think it was shown in the current budget as fifteen thousand. [1:53:00, 1:53:08]: And lastly, also in the city events, the Veterans Day Parade recommendation was made to reduce that to eight thousand [1:53:08, 1:53:12]: from ten thousand that we've had in the past years. [1:53:12, 1:53:20]: So with that, those are the items that again I was made aware of. Um and be happy to go back up to the top and walk'em down one by one. [1:53:21, 1:53:37]: All right. Um so if that's the case on this list here. So we'll go back to government body then and then what we're talking about here, the first thing was printing and binding to reduce by two thousand you said, was what the recommendation was based on uh comments from the council. [1:53:38, 1:53:39]: Um [1:53:39, 1:53:47]: And you mentioned earlier that comments came from the um staff about the amount of printing that we do all right now and a lot of that deals with [1:53:48, 1:53:51]: I'm assuming with events and all the events that we have, things of that nature. So [1:53:52, 1:53:56]: And and the original number uh original number was what what was the original number now? [1:53:56, 1:54:01]: I've not half a minute. I don't know it off the top of my head. Uh maybe five or four yeah. [1:54:03, 1:54:06]: It was four thousand for your proposed twenty seventeen. [1:54:08, 1:54:15]: It was four thousand? For proposed twenty seventeen? Right. Yes. Okay. So from four thousand to two thousand? [1:54:16, 1:54:17]: Uh [1:54:21, 1:54:29]: I'm I'm thinking that that came from the initial four thousand and all I just endorsed that that really came from the staff itself that deal deal with all the printing all the time. [1:54:29, 1:54:32]: [6872.8, 6892.3]: We looked at some historical costs and no and they I believe our cost I I don't think it was reflected at the time. I don't know if we had additional expenditures that had not yet been booked, but I know we had some high printing printing costs this year. Um and again a lot of that was based on number of flyers that were done. Um [1:54:53, 1:54:54]: For [1:54:54, 1:54:57]: various events and council initiatives. [1:54:59, 1:55:10]: Okay. Well I I like to keep it at four thousand personally, but uh w what what does the council have to say about this recommendation? So that can I thank Mayor Pro Tem. [1:55:10, 1:55:16]: The reason why that came up'cause when I spoke with them on page three [1:55:16, 1:55:18]: It shows that it was four thousand. [1:55:19, 1:55:24]: Then my question was I came again on page six for printing and binding. [1:55:24, 1:55:37]: Um that was a discussion. There's twenty five hundred there. So my question was there was two um printing and binding and my question was what was page six? [1:55:37, 1:55:47]: Okay, paid six is under administration cost not having anything to do with any elected official printing and binding. Okay. Seeing that was my question. Okay. [1:55:48, 1:55:48]: I [1:55:51, 1:55:52]: Any other comments on this, please? [1:55:53, 1:56:00]: So you said in the past it was four thousand? Right. And and your recommendation is four thousand? Yes. I agree with that. [1:56:01, 1:56:04]: I agree with that. I agree with that. Okay. I don't know. All right. [1:56:04, 1:56:07]: So I think we just saw the first one. We're gonna we're gonna keep it at four thousand dollars. [1:56:07, 1:56:09]: Do we need a formal formal vote on that, sir? [1:56:15, 1:56:33]: for amending the draft budget. Okay. And so presumably the final version of the draft budget that's presented to you in about a month will have these bonifications. Right. And and yeah, the attorney's correct what we'll do based on the comments we received back this evening, we'll go back to amend [1:56:33, 1:56:39]: the budget and represent that as the amended version and that'll be what will be discussed at the [1:56:39, 1:56:41]: meeting on the twenty ninth. [1:56:42, 1:57:02]: You had I thought on this one. I wanted to we're gonna move on. Okay. Mayor Temper real quick before just to get clarification, I know we're going through this list, but I'm also looking at things that were missed, um, such as there's nothing down for Downtown Development Authority, nor is there anything down for the Historic Preservation Committee. [1:57:02, 1:57:22]: committee that we're gonna have with Main Street this upcoming year and a couple of other questions. When do we address those? Are we gonna go down the list from where council members had some discussion already and then talk about those as well? Uh how are we gonna do this? Right. [1:57:22, 1:57:42]: Mr. Clark and I I believe I talked to the you all um staff about that. There's a reduction in what the DDA wanted in this case. That's correct. There was a reduction. And um it was based on my thought process along with some comments uh from uh Mr. Clark himself who was here and he just just left not too long ago, but uh but I did to get a initial document. [1:57:42, 1:57:47]: So we gotta locate that and and make sure we put that in here. [1:57:48, 1:57:49]: Mayor Porta. Yes, Mayor. [1:57:50, 1:58:05]: I was looking to see if Kira was here from the Main Street, but the council did approve um the Historic Preservation Committee a couple of ordinances back a couple of meetings ago. So that was uh something that you all have approved. [1:58:07, 1:58:07]: Of freeze. [1:58:08, 1:58:23]: Now I do see an increase in the Main Street budget. So is that perhaps captured in the increase in the Main Street budget? No went from like what you look at page nineteen, other financing uses [1:58:23, 1:58:26]: Um transfer to S D A. [1:58:26, 1:58:28]: Linda, I believe that's where you capture it. [1:58:28, 1:58:33]: And you'll see forty five thousand there for Stockbridge Downtown Development Authority. [1:58:33, 1:58:35]: And again it's page nineteen of twenty one. [1:58:37, 1:58:37]: No. [1:58:41, 1:58:51]: So that is a reduction from the original proposal, I think it was ninety four. I know there were some conversations in regards to their legal fees and th what their cost would be, so [1:58:52, 1:58:52]: Um [1:58:54, 1:58:56]: It was presented back at forty five thousand. [1:58:57, 1:59:17]: Mayor Plotin. Yes yes, Mayor. I would like to suggest that we um speak with Ms. Bragg's and try to get some type of itemization on w what an estimate would be to put that historic pres some money in for the historic preservation committee, especially since that's gonna be very important this year um part of Main Street. [1:59:17, 1:59:18]: Great. [1:59:20, 1:59:35]: Now during the during the internal budget process, I mean you y there was uh I thought all the the staff t sat down with you, Mr. Harrison and Linda, and gave their ideas and thoughts on that. So what we're talking about now is not added in there because it didn't come up in the conversation or [1:59:36, 1:59:37]: Or what? [1:59:38, 1:59:43]: recall uh specifically hor historic preservation [1:59:43, 1:59:44]: Take a look at C. [1:59:47, 1:59:56]: Well we can certainly go back and revisit that and and double check and find out'cause I know that came about after our initial conversations with the Main Street staff. [1:59:57, 2:00:03]: But we can certainly go back and revisit with them and speak with them on their estimated um [2:00:06, 2:00:08]: Estimated budget amounts. [2:00:10, 2:00:12]: [7220.0, 7226.2]: Okay. Next item is um consideration regarding council initiative funding. [2:00:26, 2:00:32]: Um what was proposed was reducing it down to seventy five hundred, which [2:00:32, 2:00:33]: Um [2:00:33, 2:00:34]: Contemplates. [2:00:35, 2:00:40]: fifteen hundred dollars per council member. And once again that does not include [2:00:41, 2:00:42]: The mayor's position? [2:00:43, 2:00:53]: Um and the recommendation was to increase that back up to the previous amount of twenty five hundred dollars per council member. So it'd be an increase total increase of [2:00:53, 2:01:13]: Five thousand dollars. Okay. I reason I but I did that is looking for ways to uh cut back on some things on the budget. Figured that uh if you go to fifteen hundred for each one of the council initiatives there'll be five thousand dollars. I said in my uh cover letter that I wanted to put that additional five thousand dollars into the youth council, as I stated in my cover letter there. That's where that thought process [2:01:13, 2:01:33]: that came from at the time that that was written and and and done the um city the circus was still on and now since then the circus has come off uh so in that aspect but uh I'm still of the mindset uh that uh some of those items that uh council initiatives or some of the things we do are probably more or less city events uh but obviously if the council [2:01:33, 2:01:42]: Council wants to go back to twenty five hundred, we can we can vote on that and come to that agreement. But I still think it should be fifteen hundred for each council member. So be it. Comments. [2:01:44, 2:01:44]: Um [2:01:45, 2:01:51]: I had a actual concern with that one. Um because if with if we [2:01:52, 2:02:03]: decrease the amount and just say with certain counsel um because the next item that is on here um like saying do an outside additional training [2:02:05, 2:02:08]: to improve um [2:02:08, 2:02:16]: the knowledge of what we're what we're trying to do for as the region, that that funding that can be used towards that. [2:02:17, 2:02:20]: as well, because that's the council initiative. [2:02:20, 2:02:21]: Um [2:02:22, 2:02:29]: I'm just kinda concerned with that because I know you did say in the newsletter for our youth but [2:02:29, 2:02:36]: to me funding that should be a priority of funding instead of pulling from one place to make that happen. [2:02:37, 2:02:42]: So it's like um we're decreasing in some areas to make that happen. [2:02:43, 2:02:50]: And we have civic events like we just did tonight stating to the schools that this is something we're doing, but then we're [2:02:51, 2:02:52]: Pull him back. [2:02:52, 2:02:53]: funding. [2:02:53, 2:02:56]: And and I just I'm just concerned and maybe I just [2:02:57, 2:03:01]: Somebody could tell me the difference in that. So I guess that's why we're here so we can discuss it. [2:03:01, 2:03:08]: Because I I I'm just looking at if we're saying w you know that we're gonna do s certain things but then we're gonna take out [2:03:08, 2:03:12]: things that we are already doing that are real positive. [2:03:12, 2:03:32]: um with the community. Well I'm I'm looking personally looking at the things that was sponsorships and things of that nature with the school system that we did tonight, things we did last year with um Cotton Indian, um a partnership with the Henry County Education or with the Board of Education, do things with them. I'm looking at more or less as a city type of of event or cost versus that initial council [2:03:32, 2:03:52]: initiative. Basically is why I did that. And once again I'll say again, when I originally did that and put that in the uh the cover letter is that I was thinking about the youth council and trying to make sure that we had enough startup fees because of the kind of conversation we had previously about the youth council give that five additional five thousand dollars to to the youth council to get that off and run it. That's where my thought problem [2:03:52, 2:04:12]: So I guess we can say then that we're gonna still remain with the schools doing what we just did tonight. I would think we would. Okay. I I would think we would. Well tonight that's that's that's also a council that's a council decision and aspect as we go d I think as we go down the road to do certain partner with them on certain things, certain schools within the city or where once [2:04:12, 2:04:21]: Once again, where children uh tend that are from the city of Stockbridge that may attend a school that may not be in the city limits of the of the city itself. So we're supporting those those educational programs. [2:04:22, 2:04:26]: Because I'cause I guess when I was going over the budget it says that we decreased [2:04:27, 2:04:32]: the the civic events w that would that budget that would that [2:04:32, 2:04:34]: That's where that mu that funding would come from. [2:04:35, 2:04:48]: So Michael, can you because that was something that we talked about forwards that funding it changed? Yeah, so we're we're we're talking about two different items now. So the training, the civic events [2:04:48, 2:04:53]: the recognition was to reduce that by five thousand and take that five thousand and move it into [2:04:54, 2:04:57]: contract services and add the five thousand two contract services [2:04:57, 2:05:05]: Um where two thousand of that five thousand would be designated to the booster clubs and three thousand would be toward other community partners. [2:05:05, 2:05:07]: um that provide charitable services. [2:05:08, 2:05:11]: So but that's so [2:05:11, 2:05:13]: Speaking to [2:05:13, 2:05:19]: the booster clubs and those that's addressed in here, but that doesn't address the council initiative directly. Right. [2:05:20, 2:05:40]: Yes, sir, go right ahead. Uh uh first of all I wanna say b thank you for the job that you did. These are tough decisions. I mean these is there's no uh you know what you what you do you you g take here, you go there, but I agree with your thought process that said the circus is not there. You can took [2:05:40, 2:05:58]: you can put those funds back possibly in the council initiative that thought process because like you said before those dollars weren't there. And at the same time if the council chose to do those things out of their initiative funds you would be able to do that. So I kind of follow that thought process. All right, so be it. [2:05:58, 2:06:00]: Uh Mayor Putin. Yes, sir. [2:06:00, 2:06:07]: Uh I'm in agreement with uh reducing if we n uh to reduce the uh council initiatives to fifteen hundred dollars'cause I think that [2:06:08, 2:06:15]: If we have any initiatives, the one of the important things about initiative and great thing about initiative is get uh community involvement. [2:06:15, 2:06:18]: Um when we start to say, look at the budget [2:06:19, 2:06:31]: and decrease expend general expenditure so that we don't have to balance it with fund balance, then I don't think with that we take money and shift it. I think we look at monies that we can just alleviate. [2:06:31, 2:06:40]: And if we're not gonna have a circus this year, then that five thousand dollars just be removed. It it doesn't have to be shifted in general funds, it just needs to be removed because [2:06:41, 2:06:53]: Looking at this budget, we're over general fund bal general funds anyway and we're gonna have to go into fund balance anyway. So I my mindset is we're not gonna be doing those services, it's just remove the money. [2:06:53, 2:06:58]: And if we're gonna have council initiatives, then we get the community involved to make it happen. [2:06:59, 2:07:01]: Not necessarily on the taxpayers' backs. [2:07:03, 2:07:03]: Okay. [2:07:04, 2:07:05]: Comments on this side? [2:07:06, 2:07:08]: Um Mayor. Yes, Mayor. [2:07:08, 2:07:26]: In in regards to well it's twofold. Um because we've already talked about m moving money over to the contract services for the events. And I think that's uh based off of the reading of this, uh that's what it stated was moved to, um, in regards to um [2:07:27, 2:07:28]: Because of the circus and all of that. [2:07:29, 2:07:29]: Um [2:07:30, 2:07:50]: I'm okay with reducing of the fifteen hundred to fifteen hundred dollars um for council initiatives. I've also stated um in the past we've increased tremendously on council initiatives and although it's a good thing I want to see some buildings going up. I wanna see some some room. [2:07:50, 2:08:10]: Real things that we've been planning on doing um get done. And with all the events and everything that we have going on and taking place, it takes time away from the staff. So I always say I want to see a bulldozer and I want to see some tractors and I want to see some cranes. [2:08:10, 2:08:30]: I'm okay with r reducing the initiative. Um also in regards to we since we've already spoken about the events um in in regards to the five thousand dollars moved to charities and boosters, um in our press past financial finance committee meeting, we discussed at a [2:08:30, 2:08:50]: agreed that we would just have some money set aside for nonprofits and for schools. I don't really want to label it boosters get a certain amount and charities get a certain amount. I think we have partnered with and we have already made a resolution to partner in education and that's just not for high schools. [2:08:50, 2:09:01]: That's for elementary, middle and high. So I don't want to, you know, separate and say a specific fund, just have some funds available for that nonprofit category. [2:09:03, 2:09:05]: Okay. Any other questi questions? [2:09:06, 2:09:15]: Yes. Um council initiatives to me, um, when I first came, is is set aside to be involved in the community. [2:09:15, 2:09:16]: Um [2:09:16, 2:09:36]: You're we're elected to be out in the community so they can see what they elected us to do. We're here to set policies, but they also look at us being in the community doing positive things. Um we have our job fairs, uh we have different things, coffee with a cop. These are activities that the community [2:09:36, 2:09:56]: community are looking that these are ideas that we come up with um to have them involved. And and to me that's how you involve yourself with the community. They want to see us. They want us to be transparent. You know, some may do more than others, some may just [2:09:56, 2:09:58]: want to you know not do them. [2:09:58, 2:10:00]: But to me [2:10:00, 2:10:07]: it should still be an opportunity so that way we can be involved with our citizens outside of [2:10:07, 2:10:19]: you know, just certain events during the year. This is something that they're showing creativity with small businesses, um, that we can bring out bring them out so that way they can say that, okay, [2:10:19, 2:10:31]: you hear our voice. We're in the community. It's an outlet for them so that way um non profits can come out and be a part to let the residents know that they're here in our community. [2:10:32, 2:10:52]: I just feel we can do more um with that because normally I know what what I do is a lot of times it's nothing outside of the work day unless it's you know a couple hours but at the but at the same time is giving our citizens and our small businesses an opportunity to be out [2:10:53, 2:10:55]: in the community with [2:10:56, 2:10:57]: their elected officials. [2:10:58, 2:11:06]: What I think I hear is that the council is is in favor what I hear is is is is in favor of go taking the council instances to fifteen hundred. [2:11:06, 2:11:09]: And the five thousand dollars that came from the circus [2:11:10, 2:11:16]: to put that five thousand dollars into those contract services. Is is that what I understood, the majority of the council? Is that agreeable? [2:11:17, 2:11:31]: Is that what I hear? No, that's not what you hear. That's not what uh I mean I'm majority. I'm I'm looking at a majority. Uh our three is a majority here. Is that is that what I hear? Okay, let's go back let's go back to council initiative. Am I hearing council initiatives sh could be reduced, stay at uh fifteen hundred? [2:11:31, 2:11:32]: Is that what [2:11:32, 2:11:42]: Uh that's my understanding. Right now it's proposed that being reduced to fifteen hundred. So I guess the r the recommendation is to increase it back up to twenty five hundred dollars per council member. I think that's the [2:11:42, 2:11:49]: question of consideration. Okay, I thought our I thought uh through the conversation I thought these three of us were in agreement that it can go to fifteen hundred. [2:11:50, 2:11:51]: Council Misters. [2:11:52, 2:11:53]: What I thought I heard. [2:11:54, 2:11:55]: Okay. [2:11:56, 2:12:05]: At fifteen hundred. Okay, so okay, excuse me. So it does not go excuse me, it does not go to twenty five. Fine. Okay. So the five thousand from the s from the uh from the um [2:12:06, 2:12:09]: circus that we we're not gonna use. Okay, that five thousand [2:12:09, 2:12:16]: Is scheduled to go where? Mr Blount says it needs that this go on never never land, not to use it, not to touch it, if I understand that correctly, right? [2:12:16, 2:12:19]: Yeah, my understanding if we are reducing [2:12:19, 2:12:22]: services and events that [2:12:22, 2:12:27]: gonna be extra for the for the citizens anyway and those those services are reduced. [2:12:27, 2:12:47]: then it reduced the general fund that we should be looking for for the year and it shouldn't be shift, it should be alleviate and just remove the five thousand dollars. Because I agree with Councilwoman Gantt and I think I talked to you about this, Michael. I don't agree I agree that if we want to have a partnership with the schools, let's do that. [2:12:47, 2:13:07]: I don't agree with saying, Hey, we're gonna get a booster club because now see we can't be the responsible parties in order to get community involved for us forcing ourselves on on these booster clubs to say, Hey, we're gonna give booster clubs money to do what you're supposed to be doing anyway. When I deal with booster clubs, we got out in communities and we we raised [2:13:07, 2:13:08]: Mm-hmm. [2:13:09, 2:13:15]: But when I got when we partner with schools, whatever the school does, that's up to the schools if we're gonna partner with the schools. [2:13:16, 2:13:21]: But the director would say we're gonna be connected to booster clubs. I don't think that's what the citizens [2:13:21, 2:13:40]: Citizens want and if they do, then let their voices be heard on that. That's not I'm not gonna put my name on that. So on council initiatives we're saying keep that at fifteen hundred. Yes. And we we kinda jumped around. So the other question in regards to the five thousand is simply [2:13:41, 2:13:49]: Is the council agreeable to eliminating that five thousand from civic events? It sounds like the consensus is yes. [2:13:49, 2:14:00]: The second part of that question is what to do with that five thousand, either leave it off or reallocate it. But the answer to the question of reducing the current budget by five thousand, it sounds like that is [2:14:01, 2:14:03]: Agreeable with the full council? [2:14:03, 2:14:03]: [8044.9, 8046.8]: I I can have a couple of years. [2:14:07, 2:14:10]: First of all, in this entire argument [2:14:11, 2:14:14]: I'm not in favor of doing anything to reduce funding to our youth. [2:14:15, 2:14:35]: And this five thousand dollars is dedicated toward a youth program. Just because the circus was eliminated does not mean we need to eliminate the youth funding. This money was dedicated to go toward youth programs. We just decided today, I mean we just decided and I applaud you for going up to ten thousand dollars in [2:14:35, 2:14:37]: the youth council. If we take [2:14:38, 2:14:50]: and eliminate five thousand dollars. What we just did was we fail we really did not increase funding to our youth. And we continuously talk about increasing funding to our youth. [2:14:50, 2:15:10]: This five thousand dollars is in the budget. We're not uh you know eliminating it, simply does that. We're right now with the ten thousand dollars in youth uh in the youth youth council, the five thousand dollars that's additional money. If we take it and we just put it back in the fund balance which we're [2:15:10, 2:15:20]: We're already at eighty seven percent fund balance as it as it is right now. We basically we're banking money that we could allocate toward our youth. [2:15:21, 2:15:24]: I'm not I'm not in a position to say today [2:15:25, 2:15:28]: I know that there's need in this community for that money. [2:15:28, 2:15:48]: So putting it back uh into the piggy bank, knowing that we will need it uh on some services is is is what I'm in favor of and I think the city manager has recommended that we transfer the money over. It keeps the money live versus having at some point I think we've already cut nonprofit funding [2:15:48, 2:16:08]: Too far. So in the middle of the year we can be honest with ourselves now and leave the money in the budget or come June or July have to do a budget amendment. We said that we were gonna be honest and handle the budget correctly this year. Putting that money away just simply d kicks the can down the road and puts us in a position. [2:16:08, 2:16:28]: clarification the five thousand dollars that I wanted to add or did add it into the youth uh council that was that was the five thousand dollars that came for council initiatives. That was the original five thousand that you know reducing council initiative twenty one five hundred to fifteen hundred took that five thousand put it in the youth the youth council. Okay that's where that goes from. This other five thousand was it came after [2:16:28, 2:16:48]: After the fact, after everything was published, we found out the circus, that's a different five thousand. You see. So uh my c my thought then is that that five thousand is what we're trying to figure out what to do with that five that five thousand. I think the youth is still good to go since we're good to go at the youth council there was no questions that were posed in regard to the youth council at ten thousand dollars. Exactly right. So [2:16:48, 2:17:03]: So th th it's the five thousand dollars for the circus that we found out about a week or so ago after this was published and wasn't even in the p uh the equation is what we're discussing on what to do with that particular five thousand dollars, come to some mutual mutual agreement. [2:17:03, 2:17:14]: Yes, sir. It's it's that line item. Right. That line item. The first question is, is everyone amenable to amending that line item under civic events and reducing that by five thousand? [2:17:15, 2:17:17]: for the elimination of the circus [2:17:18, 2:17:36]: Unless there's something else. Well, under civic events specifically we're talking about. Well I would think I would think I would hope that that we will say yes to that and then we've got to figure out the next piece is where do we put that five thousand? Where did it go? Okay. Okay. So yes to civic events. So civic events reduces by five thousand. Okay. Now the question is where does that five thousand go? [2:17:40, 2:17:40]: So [2:17:40, 2:17:46]: The recommendation in regards to the five thousand dollars was to add it into contract services. [2:17:47, 2:17:51]: Um which is currently at nine thousand. That includes [2:17:51, 2:17:52]: Um [2:17:55, 2:17:57]: uh funds that we have for [2:17:59, 2:18:04]: animal control software that we partner with the county on, as well as other [2:18:04, 2:18:05]: Um [2:18:05, 2:18:11]: partner community partnerships that in place, but they're not designated. Okay. They've been designated. So [2:18:11, 2:18:18]: I think of the nine thousand, about three thousand that went toward the software and the remainder would be determined by the council. [2:18:18, 2:18:18]: Um [2:18:19, 2:18:22]: You know, at the council's discretion. So the recommendation [2:18:23, 2:18:27]: that was presented to um Miss Neighbors and I was [2:18:27, 2:18:28]: So [2:18:28, 2:18:32]: add five thousand dollars to contract services [2:18:32, 2:18:36]: And that would be designated two thousand to go toward booster clubs. [2:18:37, 2:18:38]: And three thousand to go towards [2:18:39, 2:18:43]: um community partnerships that provide charitable services to citizens. [2:18:43, 2:18:54]: I would s I would say my thoughts are take the five thousand dollars, put it in the contract services, but don't designate booths and cubs or or charities. Just put it in the in the contract services period. I'm okay with that with that. [2:19:01, 2:19:04]: Is that acceptable by at least the majority of the council that we do that? [2:19:05, 2:19:07]: I'm in agree with that? Okay. So we'll do that. [2:19:07, 2:19:08]: All right. [2:19:09, 2:19:11]: Thank you. And if we can jump back up. [2:19:11, 2:19:20]: One of the other items um was the training to add in the twenty five hundred for eight for uh training through Atlanta Regional Commission ARC. [2:19:21, 2:19:35]: Okay, uh pretty much so ARC okay, so we got GMA training and we have a training line for that already. So this is something over and above the GMA training line that we have in governing bodies what we're referring to. Strictly for ARC type specific training. [2:19:35, 2:19:51]: Is that what I I maybe it's been too simplistic here, but uh guys Councilwoman Bob Yes because I brought it up. Um G um GMA does the municipal training. ARC does our region, um it di it entails [2:19:52, 2:20:12]: the entire region transportation, everything that we have. Um learning for as um the economic development, if something is what I'm learning, if you don't need a certain building or certain um complex or certain things in your community, what works for Kennesaw, what works for [2:20:11, 2:20:31]: for Smarter may not work for Stockbridge. So it's it's showing the demographics of we may want something, but entails that may not be what we want what we need. So um even like now there's malls, people are ordering online and malls are basically maybe coming obsolete. [2:20:31, 2:20:35]: And that's why you see different malls. But [2:20:35, 2:20:49]: the Atlanta region shows you a more broad what is the changes that are gonna be taking place and just like we're saying with Atl you know, south of Atlanta, what's going on at the airport, different things, what's going on um [2:20:50, 2:21:10]: And the northern end, this keeps us up on what's going to be coming down south and and and we can all come in together. Um and and it also builds um relationships, um, networking. I've met a lot of people, even s a lot of things that are coming up in the near future is by being networking. [2:21:10, 2:21:15]: being at these different events. So I put that there, even though I know some that you know [2:21:15, 2:21:35]: Don't go outside of Stockbridge, but I wanted to put that there just in case. And then I was talking with Michael um that if it doesn't pass there's other avenues. So he just said put it on here, but there's other avenues that we can utilize that um if we don't do it this year, I mentioned to him it could be, you know, next year or [2:21:35, 2:21:45]: the year after but he was just saying put it on there anyway. It's nothing that is definitely needed in twenty seventeen. If the council says no, you know, for now, then we can, you know, revisit it later. [2:21:46, 2:21:48]: [8509.4, 8529.4]: I say we take it off and the only reason I say we take it off is because um in the past in twenty fourteen, maybe twenty fifteen, I've been to ARC training through our training. We have um just money allowed it for training. It's not particular that it has to be for GMA or anything or any category. I took training through ARC. [2:22:09, 2:22:25]: R C through our training account. So there's no need to add any additional or anything. I think that we utilize the training funds that we already have for whatever training we go to. And so not to, you know [2:22:25, 2:22:37]: be Kurt or anything, just we have a a line for training and it's not just for GMA, it's for all training. And I I actually took the ARC trains. [2:22:39, 2:22:59]: Well I was my thoughts are simply this. If you do twenty five hundred this was coming out of something. It was not we're not reducing anything by twenty five hundred, you just adding this twenty five Okay. Well actually I'm in agreement with Ms. Gantt here that training is training and and we have a allotment for that. And um uh uh so and that in all actuality uh there's uh beside [2:22:59, 2:23:00]: Besides the [2:23:00, 2:23:08]: The mayor coming on ne for next fiscal year, everybody else is uh is is pretty well set in some of the training. So I think uh we what we have in training should be [2:23:08, 2:23:11]: For GM training should be fine. That's my thoughts on it. Gentlemen down here? [2:23:12, 2:23:13]: I'm in agreement. Uh we'll just [2:23:13, 2:23:16]: Whatever we have a lot of for training, we use it. Okay. [2:23:17, 2:23:18]: [8598.8, 8603.2]: So on that note it seems like twenty five hundred is not gonna happen on that. Okay. So take that off. [2:23:25, 2:23:38]: All right, the next item was the ad item and put this under administration and this would be the um public information officer that was mentioned. Um the current contract the current budget [2:23:39, 2:23:41]: Um has removed that position. [2:23:41, 2:23:48]: Um and again not working I think with the with the intent of looking at trying to combine some of the services with the [2:23:49, 2:23:49]: Uh [2:23:50, 2:23:52]: Economic development slash marketing position. [2:23:53, 2:23:55]: Um this is a position that had been discussed, you know. [2:23:56, 2:23:59]: for a while amongst the council. [2:24:00, 2:24:04]: that the council wanted to uh uh what I understand the council wanted to go forward on economic director. [2:24:04, 2:24:24]: And so my thought process was, you know, well a public information officer that's another full time employee it's gonna be very costly. Once again I'm looking at cutting costs, thinking that uh that maybe the public information officer can uh I mean excuse me, the economic director can have some public information officer type of duties and responsibilities built into that job description. I look at the fact that [2:24:24, 2:24:44]: The clerk does some uh uh public information things. Uh we have uh uh Mike has a assistant that does public information things. Uh our assistant does public information things as well. Understand we want to kind of we want to eventually uh get someone in full time to do all this as we expand and grow and that's probably necessary to do that. I just [2:24:44, 2:24:48]: necessary for this upcoming fiscal year based on the fact that we would want to [2:24:48, 2:24:49]: eventually higher [2:24:50, 2:24:52]: economic director. Those are my thoughts on that. So [2:24:53, 2:24:57]: understand there's open for debate and discussion, obviously. But anyway, go right ahead. [2:24:58, 2:25:18]: Well, I I actually I think I kinda fall in line with what you just said, which is the priority should be the economic development director and that position can kinda encompass some of this. And that not to say that we're not gonna need a public information officer but maybe in steps, maybe in the following year. But I I agree with that. [2:25:18, 2:25:18]: Yeah. [2:25:19, 2:25:36]: Yes, yes, ma'am. Um for the past two years at our retreats, one of the number one things on our agenda always and out of our summary has been that we need a PR person. And every single time we [2:25:37, 2:25:44]: push it aside and push it aside and push it aside. And then we realize we need a PR person. We need that person that [2:25:45, 2:25:52]: that, you know, produces those flyers, that writes those articles, that sends out those newsletters, that responds to the media. [2:25:53, 2:26:11]: that can be a and is a full time job. Otherwise it wouldn't be n one number one and two on our list for the past two or three years at our retreats. And I think that us putting and combining jobs have we've we've come to realize that when we do that, um [2:26:12, 2:26:32]: that we we're setting that staff member or admin person up for failure. We're setting them up not to be able to do their their main focus job. Um and so economic development is totally different from you having a PR person, someone who is there to communicate and and to be out there in the forefront for us as a [2:26:32, 2:26:39]: representatives speaking and writing um things that we need. I think that's really important. Um and [2:26:39, 2:26:44]: That's I I can't s stress it enough. I mean if we've put it on the retreat [2:26:44, 2:26:52]: over and over again and we come out with these summaries and we don't do what the summaries say, then why are we doing it? [2:26:53, 2:26:59]: It's I think it's time for us to move forward with that. And I I don't think that if we combine that position [2:26:59, 2:27:14]: That's just like having a community development director who has to do planning and zoning and direct and then you want'em to do twenty different things and they can only focus on one project. We we need more staff and we need that PR, we need that P O I. [2:27:16, 2:27:17]: Thank you. Uh any comments at all? [2:27:18, 2:27:24]: Any other comments? Is this [2:27:24, 2:27:27]: These positions are operating [2:27:28, 2:27:32]: funds out of the general fund. The operations have to be paid for. [2:27:33, 2:27:41]: the things that we're doing um on the other side, uh we're doing with the economic development director is actually to generate [2:27:42, 2:27:44]: additional revenue for the city. [2:27:44, 2:27:53]: I don't think that I'm saying or anybody up here is saying that we don't need a public information officer. I think the issue is whether or not we can afford it this year. [2:27:54, 2:28:02]: versus having next year. You know, sometimes in these budgets I think Mayor Pro Tem did a great job. You gotta make tough choices. And this is a tough choice. [2:28:02, 2:28:22]: The choice is this, you know, we're gonna get to both of'em, but in this year in twenty se in in in the upcoming budget, we need revenue. The revenues in the city are not where we need'em to be at. The person that um that can help us do that is the economic development director. I think that like [2:28:22, 2:28:42]: like I suggested that we do in the um in the uh finance committee meeting is that we stage these and say okay well will we do it in twenty eighteen or will we do it in twenty nineteen and just have a comprehensive plan on when we're gonna add it. I think all of us are in agreement with the fact that we need one. But I don't want to do any [2:28:42, 2:29:00]: Anything that's gonna put us in a position of jeopardizing the economic development director which is already adding nearly a hundred thousand dollars to the budget already. So we're trying to cut. I I applaud Mayor Pro Tem for making that tough choice. I want both of them too, but can we do that? [2:29:00, 2:29:20]: Mayor Portem. Yes, Mayor. I believe we can do it and the reason why I believe we can do it is again, um you have t we have to provide the staff and administration with the proper tools in order for the city to be successful and do what they need to do, in order for us to accomplish this great branding [2:29:20, 2:29:26]: and this new mission statement and this new vision. We have to have a person in place. [2:29:27, 2:29:30]: We have to have an economic development director too. [2:29:30, 2:29:50]: We can't say in one thing, oh, we have so much money in our general funds and we can go and pull and we need to be at a certain percentage for fund balance and we do these different things. We can't say that in one breath, but yet in another not give our staff and admin team the proper amount of people. [2:29:50, 2:30:08]: in order to make this city successful. And that includes all the way around. And that's just not for events. That's for getting those buildings done. Getting that youth building up and the the the big facilities that we want and things we want for the community. And so [2:30:09, 2:30:28]: We're taking away from the people with the executive assistants. They're writing our letters and they're doing different things for us. But what about the media? What about those people, a person that specializes, who may not know any of us? Someone from the outside coming in and, you know [2:30:30, 2:30:31]: Actually [2:30:31, 2:30:42]: showing that brand that we're trying to do. I mean that's been n number one and two in our goals for a while. So I say we need both. And I think it's important that we go there and get that. [2:30:43, 2:31:03]: All right. Um so on that note I'm thinking and this need to get a nod if we're not taking an official vote here, I'm thinking that uh the public information officer still remains out. We only go to economic director and the p economic director would have some of those that's my understanding. But I will uh I'm in favor of that obviously. Okay. I know you're and and if and if I could I okay. [2:31:03, 2:31:03]: I would say [2:31:04, 2:31:09]: You know, Ms. Gann and Mr. Alexander, uh you again both very compelling arguments. [2:31:10, 2:31:20]: I I I agree. I mean I I it was added in, I certainly think from a staff standpoint, um it is needed now, based on I think the creation and the [2:31:21, 2:31:29]: the the thought of the position was based on the events that we are currently doing, some of the things we're currently doing. Again, it's it's I've said it before and I I'll I'll I'll [2:31:30, 2:31:47]: continue to say it, you know, this is a very aggressive council that wants to do a number of things and a big part of that is is getting the word out, being able to disseminate information to folks. We talked about that tonight in regards to the um um water rates. Um so that's uh I I think again, I think the duties [2:31:48, 2:31:50]: are needed today. I would [2:31:50, 2:32:10]: to your point, recommend, you know, first getting the economic development person and then that person'cause again that w I think the way it's envisioned is that PIO would kind of serve under that um economic development slash marketing person. So I think from a sequencing s standpoint I think it would be first that person and then that person would have um [2:32:10, 2:32:16]: um a lot of a lot of in input and insight on the selection of the PIO person, but [2:32:17, 2:32:24]: I certainly again from a staff standpoint I'm gonna think the my recommendation is to budget it for this year. While I may uh while I don't think it would be [2:32:25, 2:32:39]: Because depending on when it gets filled, obviously maybe some cost savings there, but um certainly m my recommendation would be to the budget for it this year and then you know begin sequence it after the economic development positions fill. [2:32:40, 2:32:41]: All right. Yes, sir, go right ahead. [2:32:41, 2:32:48]: Um I'm in agreement with what we because we just approved to have uh um the Brandon uh [2:32:48, 2:32:56]: uh fixed for the city of Stockbridge. So when we started to take positions like economic development director [2:32:56, 2:32:59]: And we start to put cross duties on that person. [2:32:59, 2:33:07]: That's one of the problems we've had here in the cities, putting duties on people that couldn't be efficient in those duties because they had other duties to do. [2:33:08, 2:33:14]: Uh one of the things we probably need to make clear is where we're starting from with the general funds and where those money's gonna come from. [2:33:15, 2:33:17]: And because we I'm look we're looking at uh [2:33:17, 2:33:23]: over ten thousand dollars in the budget, but we don't have over ten thousand dollars when it comes to general funds. [2:33:25, 2:33:41]: Ten million? Oh I'm sorry, ten million dollars. I'm sorry. Okay, I'm looking for the other. We don't have over ten million dollars when it comes to general funds. So we have to educate the citizens of where we're starting from with these positions. So we're starting from a place where we gotta pull now anyway. Correct. [2:33:41, 2:33:45]: So we have to make sure that when we put these positions in place [2:33:45, 2:34:01]: that we don't have the residual of general fund that we have to pull from here then in order to make it work. We can't balance the budget with fund balance. That's just not economically sound. I I I wholeheartedly agree. And I think, you know, a lot of that is in [2:34:02, 2:34:10]: while it's not directly shown on here, a lot of that is contemplated based on um land acquisitions. Um rather than [2:34:11, 2:34:17]: listed in on the budget and designating it up front, an option that the for the council to consider would be to [2:34:18, 2:34:26]: pull it off, however, with the understanding that if the council has continued to pursue acquiring parcels as needed based on [2:34:26, 2:34:27]: or um downtown development. [2:34:28, 2:34:46]: when it's time to make those purchases then you know that you have fund balance available to do just that. But uh I I agree to your point. This becomes misleading to the public because we're looking at general funds. And when we talk about land acquisitions well which we can bring from fund balance one time expenditures [2:34:47, 2:34:57]: Uh it's it's it's not in it's not educating the public well to show over ten million dollars in general fund when we show those land acquisitions. [2:34:57, 2:35:17]: We show those money is not going to be for land acquisition and so all the the public see is that we got over ten million dollars and we're not getting that through the general fund. So where the money is gonna come from when they don't understand that we can have one time expenditures out of fund balance for what we wanna do for the citizens, but we have to be cautious in areas of [2:35:17, 2:35:32]: residual funding, uh yearly funding for pri uh for positions uh like a PTO or economic development director that would come from the general fund in itself. So we have to make sure that we [2:35:33, 2:35:34]: are able to [2:35:35, 2:35:41]: this like I said, decrease where there's areas to decrease because we do have something for the youth coming up. We do have a [2:35:42, 2:35:58]: uh building over here that uh we're gonna tear down and and and build it up that it's gonna be viable to the communities. We have a lot of projects that we have spLos funds for that's gonna be via for the viable for the youth that we can bring to fruition if we stay focused on what we need to [2:35:59, 2:36:01]: Be doing and qu and and reduce the [2:36:02, 2:36:08]: reduce some of the spending that we're doing in the fund balance. I'm saying the general fund. Right. We have to reduce our spending. [2:36:09, 2:36:12]: in some areas and and and make sure that we [2:36:13, 2:36:16]: uh taking care of projects and getting people in place [2:36:16, 2:36:24]: But we have to be mindful that we have a treasurer that's telling us one thing and we have a council that's ready to focus on others. So we have to be careful in those areas. [2:36:26, 2:36:27]: Uh another comment on this thing. [2:36:28, 2:36:48]: So right now I I don't know if there's a convincing argument to change that. Right now the public information officer is still not in and uh I don't think there is a okay, she's not in, no. And okay, so I I think it remains the same. Public information officer is not in at this time and um and that economic director's gonna get some other taskings when they get in here. [2:36:49, 2:36:49]: All right. [2:36:50, 2:36:57]: All right, moving forward, printed and binding, recommendation to increase that by four hundred dollars. Um [2:36:58, 2:36:59]: Yeah we [2:36:59, 2:37:06]: We can do that. It's probably needed. I mean [2:37:06, 2:37:08]: Uh is this I'm sorry, go ahead. Okay. [2:37:09, 2:37:10]: I'll desk. [2:37:11, 2:37:19]: Last year they had twelve twelve hundred dollars and so this year they dropped it down to one hundred. [2:37:20, 2:37:39]: I mean for twenty seventeen but so far this year twenty sixteen they've used five hundred and eighty one dollars. So that's why I said that it we should just increase it back up to a thousand dollars. Well, to increase it um four hundred dollars so that way they can have that instead of a hundred dollars. [2:37:41, 2:37:46]: Okay, I know they've they've they've gotten they don't have as quite as much business going on, uh, but um [2:37:49, 2:37:50]: Nine. [2:37:51, 2:38:01]: Yeah, and and and I'll say, you know, when we again when we met with the court staff, this is their recommendations based on, you know, what they were anticipating, but um [2:38:02, 2:38:05]: That's sort of the council's discretion. [2:38:05, 2:38:21]: Okay. It makes a difference to me because we shouldn't increase any monies to the courts right now. We we're losing over a million dollars because of uh pertaining to the courts right now, so why would we increase and we're even reducing staff to the courts? The courts are [2:38:21, 2:38:27]: Th the the l what we are doing with the courts is decreasing, so why will we increase [2:38:27, 2:38:28]: any monies to the court. [2:38:32, 2:38:32]: Okay. [2:38:34, 2:38:35]: Any thoughts on this air? [2:38:36, 2:38:39]: Has the courts asked for any increase? [2:38:39, 2:38:45]: No, the one hundred was there based on their recommendations. Okay, well I'll go with whatever the court asked for. [2:38:49, 2:38:50]: Okay. [2:38:50, 2:38:53]: You say this was re re requested? [2:38:55, 2:38:56]: What have you requested? [2:39:00, 2:39:04]: Um I haven't looked at it. I I tell you what. [2:39:04, 2:39:10]: Because John asked y last year their budget was twelve hundred dollars. [2:39:11, 2:39:15]: Now they've saying that they just need a hundred dollars. [2:39:15, 2:39:34]: for twenty seventeen. So far Michael said they've used five hundred and eighty one dollars. So when stating that so that way we wouldn't they wouldn't have to come back again to us then to go ahead and just increase it by four hundred dollars to where it'll be five hundred dollars in there for them. Okay. [2:39:34, 2:39:41]: Because they've already used five hundred and eighty one dollars so far this year. And that was the conversation. [2:39:42, 2:39:45]: And they've been operating a reduction all year long anyway, right? [2:39:45, 2:39:57]: Basic they've been operating a and r uh reduced staff and and and'cause that that took a the county took took that extra c revenue from us at the end of last year. Yeah, the staff will be reduced beginning next year. [2:39:58, 2:40:01]: That's already so the budget contemplates a reduction in the staff. [2:40:01, 2:40:03]: So this year to date [2:40:04, 2:40:05]: Um [2:40:06, 2:40:11]: Yeah, I think right now they are at binding, six hundred and eighteen dollars spent so far today. [2:40:13, 2:40:13]: Okay. [2:40:14, 2:40:17]: Okay, so you're saying there is reduction in staff? [2:40:19, 2:40:24]: Yes. Okay, that wasn't stated, so I mean I would go with the hundred dollars. [2:40:24, 2:40:34]: Yeah well the the the current budget contemplates a reduction in the staff and that's I think we shared that conversation with the um council that we're gonna reduce the staff by one person. [2:40:35, 2:40:36]: Okay, one person. [2:40:38, 2:40:47]: All right. But you're still in favor th they suggested one hundred dollars, you're in favor. Okay, and you well okay, so it doesn't get increased then. It sta it's it remains the same. It doesn't get increased. [2:40:48, 2:40:48]: Take it up. [2:40:51, 2:40:51]: All right. [2:40:54, 2:40:55]: Park police. [2:40:57, 2:40:59]: recommendation to reduce [2:41:00, 2:41:08]: Well, police in general recommendation to reduce that by fifty thousand and that would be for the elimination of the [2:41:08, 2:41:10]: Park patrols. [2:41:10, 2:41:30]: Yeah go ahead. I got some book waiting. I'm just gonna say this and I think I've registered but I don't wanna do that. I what I wanna do is if we do anything, I don't want to increase as public safety chair, I don't want to do anything to decrease uh public safety funding. What I would like to do is possibly look at uh reassigning those of [2:41:30, 2:41:40]: offices so they're not just stuck to park duty that they monitor the parks as well as the rest of the city. I I just think right at this point that [2:41:40, 2:41:51]: that is an area that we just n not don't do not need to dwell in at all with uh some of the incidents that we've seen here lately with things going on and [2:41:51, 2:42:05]: break ins and windows getting smashed at different locations. Um I just I just wanna s I uh if I take five cents out of there, I don't want to take nothing out of that line item. Well the thought was [2:42:05, 2:42:11]: And i i i was that, you know, to use utilize again park rangers or another [2:42:11, 2:42:15]: another agency in lieu of [2:42:15, 2:42:18]: Um the thought being that there could be some dish some some [2:42:19, 2:42:21]: cost savings from there. So that was the [2:42:21, 2:42:41]: nature of the conversation I believe. Well I would think this that um first of all park rangers and security force is totally out based on the feedback from the community several months or so ago when we look talked about a security force. I think that's totally out. The other thing is is that we need to uh also we'll also eventually get the here shortly maybe next month [2:42:41, 2:43:01]: or two months max probably the report from Carl Instant uh uh Carl Vincent Institute in reference to the police force and then we'll have to uh d start going down those particular measures and have that debate and get things ready for our own city of police department. So uh reduction, reducing anything, I'm not in favor of that at all. And and we just mean have maybe have clarity about [2:43:01, 2:43:12]: about the Henry County police and the time being of how they patrol uh the streets and make sure that they whatever we gotta do extra to get them into the parks as he's indicated and things of this nature. [2:43:12, 2:43:16]: I mean and uh whether it's at the trailheads our parks or whatever. [2:43:16, 2:43:36]: And and then of course we'll we'll revamp all this once we get once again the report back from Carl Ins of Carl Vincent Institute about the uh police force and my hope is you know I've been outspoken about this, is you know the the Board of Commissioners are about to change. Fi half of the board is about to change. Um so certainly at the beginning of the year [2:43:36, 2:43:56]: I think it it merits having a conversation with them in regards to what we feel is in the best interest of both sides. Um i i if even on an interim basis until such time, depending on what the council's desire is regarding the fully staffed police force, how that would look, you know, but certainly that can involve some coordination with with Henry County PD. [2:43:56, 2:44:09]: So I I think certainly beginning of the first first part of the year I think it'd be prudent to sit down with with um the folks there at the county and look at other options to help supplement what we currently have in place. [2:44:10, 2:44:20]: All right. I I th yeah, yeah, I I think we're Mrs. Right. All right. I'm sorry. Yeah, you got something, sir. [2:44:21, 2:44:22]: I mean uh [2:44:22, 2:44:26]: I d I don't I'm not uh in favor of using Float Rangers, but if we [2:44:26, 2:44:32]: hire another code enforcement officer that's gonna be out on the street, this covers uh salary plus benefits. [2:44:34, 2:44:35]: Maybe a thought to look at. [2:44:36, 2:44:41]: Uh that'd be with benefits that'd be tough to get it under that number. [2:44:42, 2:44:45]: Well if you're looking at uh the base salary for colon fourth is offers a [2:44:46, 2:44:46]: Well [2:44:46, 2:44:51]: Plus about uh seventeen uh fourteen to seventeen thousand dollars of benefits which each employee gets. [2:44:52, 2:44:53]: You're looking at this amount anyway. [2:44:54, 2:44:55]: Pretty close to [2:44:56, 2:45:00]: It it's something that's you know, we can that's a consideration the council wants to make, we certainly can. [2:45:01, 2:45:03]: Mayor Pretin. [2:45:04, 2:45:06]: Is this the city's recommendation? [2:45:07, 2:45:13]: that we do this or is it a council members recommendation that we reduce the entire amount of the fifty thousand and lose? [2:45:14, 2:45:17]: Everything on this list were recommendations from council members. [2:45:17, 2:45:18]: Okay. [2:45:18, 2:45:38]: From a council member. Don't say council member. From a council member. From various council members. There we go. Okay. I'm confused. I didn't know if council member made that recommendation. Made that recommendation. You did, I'm sorry. She said she didn't read it so you all know because we were saying we thousands and [2:45:38, 2:45:50]: And a lot of times if you're saying parts and we get parts. Parks. A lot of times these officers are not getting out walking the parts. [2:45:50, 2:46:01]: or you just park there. So just like other local cities they have park rangers. They're on bicycles or whatever those things you can sit. [2:46:02, 2:46:15]: Segways. Segways. Segways. But they're in the parks. They're won't move it throughout the parks. With these officers we're paying them and if you look at it, it's park police. [2:46:15, 2:46:20]: So that's why I said when we're doing it, the wording has to be differently. [2:46:20, 2:46:40]: But there are park rangers in other cities, numerous cities, um, and they're actually getting out. Our officers are just being parking, sitting in their car. They're not getting out walking. Yes. That's that's the reason why. Right. So we need to have the discussion. Okay. Well that that that's very um thank you for [2:46:40, 2:47:00]: I did not know that. But the the bottom line is what I I I said to the city manager is that to change the designation of these officers because they're per post certified. We've already went down that line of I think Mayor Pro Tem alluded to the public has completely rejected that. So I don't think we want to revisit [2:46:59, 2:47:19]: that but at the same time reassigning these officers to patrol the streets, not just having them designated as park because like you said, they're probably not doing as efficient job. But if they're patrolling North Henry Boulevard and they stop somebody's window from being smashed uh at a shopping center, that would be a plus. [2:47:19, 2:47:20]: Yeah. [2:47:23, 2:47:35]: All right. Well I think we got a consensus we're taking this item off. So moving on to public works, it was a recommendation to reduce overtime by fifty percent from twenty thousand to ten thousand. [2:47:35, 2:47:43]: Um again I think the emphasis of a lot of this was because you know, and again I think it's it should be noted that [2:47:44, 2:48:04]: i th the the sometimes people have a misconception that just because someone has an amount in their budget that they're gonna go scurry about and just try to spend whatever they have. And that has not been the case. I mean y you know our our our staff has really done a tremendous job. You know, we started implementing austerity cuts that we had to two years ago because of the dire stress that we were in [2:48:03, 2:48:04]: [10084.7, 10094.8]: you know, th the the staff members, public works in particular, was very amenable to it and they I mean they did what they could to make sure that we they weren't that they that they were [2:48:15, 2:48:28]: being mindful of the austerity cuts that we're trying to put in place. Just because there was a budget in the month didn't mean they were going out there and just willy nilly going out and assigning people the overtime. And they haven't they've been very mindful, they've been very good about it. It certainly um while we haven't [2:48:29, 2:48:49]: gotten to that point of um utilizing twenty thousand over the last few years. They've done very good about it. I I I would certainly say a a re a a a reduction I think um fifty percent reduction is a is a bit much because you know there are inevitabilities that occur that can come up that we you know sometimes you just cannot plan for you know [2:48:49, 2:48:51]: quite frankly. So I think certainly having [2:48:51, 2:48:56]: uh conservative amount in there I think is important as well. [2:48:56, 2:48:58]: I'm sorry. And um [2:48:59, 2:49:03]: So m these are suggestions from council members. [2:49:03, 2:49:11]: I didn't make any of these suggestions. I'm just gonna let it be known. But one of my biggest concerns is [2:49:11, 2:49:31]: the things that we're discussing here are not big ticket items. I mean we you're over here talking about four hundred dollars for printing and binding and increasing and decreasing, these are things that we can have discussions on and we've had a finite we have two finance committee meetings. We've had different things and I respect for everyone's time in council [2:49:31, 2:49:37]: Well uh no offense and I know we can we we're still gonna go through these line items, but [2:49:38, 2:49:58]: you know, there's a reason why the history showed what is shown in the past. We have here since twenty thirteen and you can look at each line item and see what was used and what was not used and you're supposed to have cushions there. You don't want to go over budget. Um so I recommend that we leave things the same and [2:49:58, 2:50:10]: And I think we should look at some of the big ticket items. And and that's why the POI and the the you know, D DA and the historic preservation and those things are things I brought up. Um [2:50:11, 2:50:29]: are things that are items that help us to function for the city. And we really need to consider those. These things we've taken almost an hour to discuss are small line items compared to the big bill items that we really have to deal with in order to make the city function. Mayor Pro Tem Yes ma'am, go ahead. Um [2:50:30, 2:50:30]: Mm. [2:50:31, 2:50:37]: I wanna say this, that we all had the opportunity to come in and discuss each line item. [2:50:38, 2:50:56]: um outside of the finance committee because they're at during that time, if you're not on the committee, you didn't get the opportunity to actually discuss. So this was an opportunity to discuss. Um I actually asked um our foun finance [2:50:56, 2:51:04]: um Linda neighbors and Michael to pull a detailed report so that way I'll have a understanding of the revenue. [2:51:05, 2:51:09]: um and also um the ex revenue and expenses. [2:51:10, 2:51:12]: And which no one actually asked for that. [2:51:13, 2:51:22]: So some of these items that are on there it will clearly show and I'll give this to um for public record that some things [2:51:23, 2:51:27]: we're still not being good stewards over over the spending. [2:51:27, 2:51:47]: 'Cause even with the overtime, just like other cities, and please I want our public works and anyone that is working to understand, they're doing a great job. But at the same time we as council and we can actually be better stewards because if they come in on a weekend, they can be all [2:51:47, 2:52:07]: during the week. That is what other cities are doing. That is what basically the reason why I brought this. So I want everybody to be clear, it's nothing to nitpick, it's basically because I'm looking at the itemized detail on different spending. And once we get to the others, this will be for public records as well. [2:52:07, 2:52:27]: So that's why I ask and you know for it to be on there and we can have the discussion. If council says we don't need to change it, we don't need to change it. But this is the opportunity for me to be able to speak on what I learned and sat down for two hours because that's what each one of us had the opportunity. [2:52:27, 2:52:35]: [10355.4, 10375.4]: This is once again, this is um uh the opportun opportunity for any council member collectively to sit down with Mr Harrison, Alinda Neighbors to talk out the particular concerns of this budget that was submitted by me. Okay? Now so I mentioned earlier that we'll go down this list in honor or respect of those council members that came forward with that data and then we will go down [2:52:55, 2:53:15]: Yes, Mayor Portem McClane. Um in regards to the Finance Committee meeting, everyone, including yourself, on every single issue in my item had an opportunity to do that. [2:53:15, 2:53:16]: Yeah. [2:53:16, 2:53:36]: on everything. Um the committee members spoke first and then I went around the entire room to include citizens and ask their input as well as yourself and Mr. and Councilman Alexander. However, what I'm saying here is and and I I respect that we I know we are almost done with this. [2:53:36, 2:53:39]: So we can continue on but [2:53:39, 2:53:59]: I thought these were some I I kept looking at the numbers compared to the the big ticket items that we're doing and we're spending an hour and we're we're discussing four hundred dollars here and there and where the circus is gonna be moved to or what's gonna happen with this. And so those were my concerns because those the [2:53:59, 2:54:19]: the staff, the the main key ticket items and uh are things that I thought we should really be concerned on. And I I totally respect your opinion, Councilman Robinson. I was just asking once I found out that these are all the opinions or suggestions from council members, I was asking [2:54:19, 2:54:25]: P you know, we're going line item by line item on some very specific um [2:54:26, 2:54:46]: topics and that's that's just all. But I I get your point. I would think it needs to remain at twenty thousand and and then uh hopefully we'll be good stewards of that and we won't even get close to it. Yeah yeah and I do want to say y you know and and again [2:54:47, 2:54:52]: Councilman Robinson and I we we did have this conversation. Um you know, and just for the public's edification, there [2:54:53, 2:55:01]: This past year they've spent about five thousand in overtime, which is not a big number, so there is some of that. [2:55:01, 2:55:02]: Um [2:55:02, 2:55:22]: shifting of time as much as possible but and again I've said this before we we do operate a very lean staff. So based on especially during the summer months there's not a lot of leeway to be able to have people out because everyone that we have quite frankly is critical. I mean every everyone everyone works. You know, our foreman work, our superintendents they work, they're all working folks so [2:55:22, 2:55:41]: So um so it becomes a challenge if we have a lot of overtime to have a lot of people out. It's right during the summer people are on vacation, so you can't it's tough to to stagger that, but they have. I think they've done an exceptional job in keeping those overtime hours down. Um with a budget of over two million dollars, two point two million dollars, they [2:55:41, 2:55:43]: Again, they they're [2:55:44, 2:55:53]: their overtime costs were just right just slightly over five thousand dollars, which is a s a small, small, minuscule percentage overall of the of the budget. So [2:55:53, 2:55:54]: Um [2:55:54, 2:55:56]: So again it's not a case where [2:55:57, 2:56:01]: I again i inevitabilities, emergency situations that may occur. [2:56:01, 2:56:05]: You know, we do you know, we're we're not talking about today, we're talking about solely um [2:56:06, 2:56:25]: um general fund, but in our enterprise funds and our water and our wastewater, again there's overtime in there as well and those guys use it. I mean I I I you know just the other night we had the a water line break over on Rockway Road. They're there at the they're there at by eight, nine o'clock that night. I mean so those are just some of the inevitabilities that occur throughout the course of a year. [2:56:26, 2:56:28]: Mayor Protein. Yes, Mayor. [2:56:30, 2:56:42]: Okay, I wanna go back because I wanna make sure that when we're saying overtime that was more so just not with the water and all of that. Right, just that was city events that I was talking about. [2:56:42, 2:56:44]: Because that's where I [2:56:45, 2:56:48]: calculated the four thousand is it doesn't include [2:56:49, 2:56:55]: the wastewater and all of that. I'm saying that's this city events. [2:56:55, 2:57:11]: So please let so we understand I'm not saying wastewater to let them come in another day. I'm this was particularly for city events. Okay. No. But there were some under city events as [2:57:12, 2:57:17]: y you know, and and and how we structure and how we do city events going forward certainly [2:57:17, 2:57:20]: Uh you know, food truck is a perfect example. [2:57:20, 2:57:25]: Great event. It was an outstand you know, but that was something that was not budgeted. [2:57:25, 2:57:44]: And those first couple of weeks we needed a lot of boots on the ground. We needed to have a lot of people. So the vast majority, I think I did some calculations at one point, I think eighty percent of all the overtime that was that was logged towards events was in the first few weeks. Just as'cause we're just trying to figure out what to do. In the last [2:57:44, 2:57:46]: Month and a half, two months, I don't think there was any. [2:57:47, 2:57:50]: Right. Because they c you know, at that point we'd headed down to a science. [2:57:50, 2:57:59]: Right. So and that's why even like you're saying with the city events, I have here eight thousand six hundred and seventy four dollars and fifty cents. [2:57:59, 2:58:19]: So with the changes that we're decreasing the time frame that sh that will change. But I'm just saying that's what we did this year. So when we go in in twenty seventeen we can be mindful of okay, do we need to have all this every you know, every week or whatever? That'll give us a better outlook on what we did [2:58:19, 2:58:21]: prior year not to do the next year. [2:58:22, 2:58:25]: Yeah, and I think it's mindful that, you know, for the events in particular of [2:58:26, 2:58:45]: You know, the more advanced notes we have, the better we're able to plan for them and so we should be able to do just that, eliminate a lot of those expenses again, because the vast majority of those just in those first few weeks. Um but for the line item as related to public works, again they've done they've done a a really exceptional job of keeping it low. So it sounds like at this point [2:58:45, 2:58:48]: We've got a whole pad at where it is. If if that's [2:58:48, 2:59:04]: Uh moving on, next item under public works. Um it was a request to add thirty thousand dollars towards um landscaping enhancements at our interchange, at two of our interchanges, one at State Route 138, [2:59:04, 2:59:07]: Um and also at Hudson Bridge Road. [2:59:09, 2:59:12]: Yeah. [2:59:13, 2:59:15]: Leave it, I think. [2:59:15, 2:59:16]: No. [2:59:16, 2:59:18]: Not to reduce it. Not to reduce it. [2:59:19, 2:59:20]: Right. Correct. Correct. [2:59:21, 2:59:31]: You're welcome. You want to talk about the last game, sir? Yes, this was something that I uh suggested. Uh we have a a new public works um director that we'll be starting. [2:59:32, 2:59:40]: The gentleman has had extensive experience uh working with GDOT and maintaining um the expressway exits. [2:59:40, 2:59:49]: There's nothing that quite drives uh sales tax revenue uh uh i uh in our city like those interchanges. [2:59:50, 3:00:10]: Uh the one things that w the things that we could do is to have our exits be the exits or the stopping points in South Metro Atlanta. You know, you go up to Ginnett County, you go up to Carr County, you see these beautifully manicured, um attractive looking exits, it makes you want to stop. [3:00:09, 3:00:10]: [10811.1, 10831.1]: Versus you come to our our exit sometimes they have trash along them, the grass is not cut and maintained. We want to be again just like that vision statement says, superior in everything that we do. We know that uh as as um travelers come down the I seventy five corridor. [3:00:31, 3:00:51]: They're paying attention to how your expressway excess looks or your interchanges look. And we want to be the very best at that. We have the new Fairfield Inn coming at Highway 138. We have a new bet uh new hotel coming there, another office space. We want to change. [3:00:51, 3:01:11]: Change around that 138 interchange to uh because of the stigma that is associated with it, and have it be best in class. We're financing a guidelines and overlay study for that particular area. Also, on the Eagles Landing interchange, the Eagle Eagles [3:01:10, 3:01:30]: Landing Community Association does a outstanding job of maintaining their side of Exit two twenty four. We owe it to those citizens who are come who go in their own pockets to take care of their area to make sure that that Hudson Bridge interchange is maintained in a superior fashion as well. [3:01:30, 3:01:50]: Not just having a grass cut, but a actually maybe adding some beautification there and then in a step phase, maybe twenty seventeen add something, twenty eighteen add something, to just make that exit stand out. I mean adding lighting some points, there'll be lighting grants available. But we have to put skin in the game to show the [3:01:50, 3:02:10]: State and the county that we're interested in improving uh those interchanges so they are very attractive. We know that we don't have a city tax here and the only way that we can increase revenue is to increase sales tax revenue. The Fairfield Inn, which is probably now the best will be when it's open. [3:02:10, 3:02:30]: in January the best hotel probably south of I twenty. It would that's what it will be. And if we want people to stay there, they can't pull off that intersection and see trash all along it and the grass unkept and unmaintained. So we gotta step to the plate and make sure that we do the right thing there. And that's what that is for. [3:02:30, 3:02:38]: or in addition to adding maybe some tre uh small shrubbery and trees in the Hudson Bridge exit and some planting there as well. [3:02:40, 3:02:41]: Got a question for you though. [3:02:42, 3:03:01]: And this is one of those things that will be a one time cost that we discuss as pulling this money um, you know, from an area because it's a one time um cost and then it will be maintained by the city staff as we get it to how we want it to be. [3:03:01, 3:03:21]: Yeah, I'm sorry. I thought the one thirty eight that would be a C I D issue that Well the C I D issue is pretty much uh it's gonna be a a little bit longer term, long term, because at this point we we would have to introduce that legislation, get it to the state legislature, have them pass it and then for us to act upon it. But at this [3:03:21, 3:03:41]: point we haven't even engaged the business owners in order to even do that, so not much very much has been done on that. Ideally it would be great once we got everything established to have a CID in a cooperation with Henry County and Clayton County to uh actually maintain it. That would be the best case scenario. But [3:03:41, 3:03:55]: In the meantime, uh we have to do something in order to do that. I've heard that from citizens so many times that uh you know they want to see something done about Highway one hundred thirty eight. We we we're we're putting funding there here. [3:03:56, 3:04:03]: How do you propose that's a one time charge if you once you establish the landscape it would have to be maintained weekly or bi weekly at the minimum? [3:04:04, 3:04:24]: Well when I say a one time charge I mean the cost for adding the beautification items. Of course we'll have to maintain those items and sort of right now we already have a contractor that maintains the median uh on the Hudson Bridge and uh we would obviously have to partner with the county in order to maintain the highway. [3:04:24, 3:04:44]: We're cutting that. Okay, we're cutting the middle. Mayor Purton. Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. Um Councilman Alexander, I agree that we need some type of beautification on one hundred thirty eight and then our gateways. I think that is important. [3:04:44, 3:04:45]: Um [3:04:45, 3:05:05]: I also think that once our new public works director is on board he can tell us a little bit more about what we should get, you know, whether it's l something low maintenance and you know, g when you do plants and shrubberies you have to replant and I mean I see it in my neighborhood in Monarch Village. I know [3:05:05, 3:05:25]: they're doing things all the time. So it's not just a one time cost. But then I also want us to look at other revenues um other avenues in getting that beautification done as well. Are we gonna do the um some kind of monument thing or some some name? I mean just allocating thirty thousand [3:05:25, 3:05:30]: thousand dollars and not knowing what we're gonna do, um, you know [3:05:31, 3:05:51]: I would prefer to get the opinion of our new public works director, number one. And number two, you know, d can we use community development block grant? Can we use some other type of funds? Can what can we do at this point in time? I'm not against it. I'm just saying and I and I understand you putting it out there [3:05:51, 3:06:02]: I don't know if I can just say yay or nay tonight. I w want more information on what the actual cost will look like and what ideas do we have to make that look look even better. I mean [3:06:03, 3:06:11]: Yeah, it won't take much to make it look better. But to t what ideas are there out there basically in a price range point? Well I I w I think we [3:06:12, 3:06:13]: Um [3:06:13, 3:06:26]: drawn upon some expertise. And m m Mr City Manager, could you talk about that a little bit and our what we talked about um in our meeting about uh exact and I and then at the same time we [3:06:26, 3:06:28]: When that new [3:06:28, 3:06:48]: public works director comes on board if there's no money set aside to do these things he can't do them. I'm not saying I don't want to draw out the plan that says plant A is gonna be here, plant B is going to be here, even if the funding is not used in um in in twenty seventeen. [3:06:48, 3:07:08]: I want to have that money allocated on the table and then have the stakeholders, the businesses, as well as our new public works director engage in the process of deciding exactly what to do. Like I said, the reason that I voted for this individual was that he had previous experience in doing [3:07:08, 3:07:13]: [11234.1, 11239.5]: Yeah, and in in in based on the conversation with um Councilman Alexander and I, I mean it was [3:07:20, 3:07:32]: Um it was broad. It wasn't anything specific as far as I want this in particular but we kinda went back and forth on the numbers and um the the thought being, you know, bring it down some from what was initially discussed. [3:07:32, 3:07:42]: to start something, to start somewhere, do we something something at you know, the the the big media net and Hudson Bridge. There's really nothing there, it's more dirt than anything else. So actually [3:07:43, 3:08:03]: you know, get some plannings in there and look at what the cost would be, put something uh even if we're starting relatively small, but have something started. Again it wasn't e it wasn't it wasn't planned out and detailed out as far as what it would be, but said let's allocate some funding if the council's agreeable and then from there as long as we knew what the we have an amount and then we can kinda plan to the [3:08:03, 3:08:04]: [11285.0, 11296.8]: We're looking at putting out our landscape bid later on, try to get it out before the end of the year, and say, Hey, l here's how much we have, what can you do and get proposals based on a set amount. So I think that was the kind of the mindset. [3:08:17, 3:08:19]: What's that current landscaping them out? [3:08:20, 3:08:24]: Uh I think we're right at ninety thousand. [3:08:25, 3:08:29]: Is that right? I'm getting a thumbs up, Bob Park hundred thousand. [3:08:30, 3:08:31]: Yeah. [3:08:31, 3:08:51]: So otherwise, uh say we approve this. I was gonna say where's where's the money coming from or or otherwise if we approve this you said it can't put potentially go into the landscape contract bid. Is that what you're getting at? Yeah, I think you know when you when you designate your as we go through the bid process we would you know, this is an area we could designate [3:08:51, 3:09:11]: Um we have X amount. We need proposals on what it would take to what could you do for this amount of money. This is what we had set aside. Um we've done a few others that way. But right now we do we have about again a hundred about a hundred thousand for landscaping in general and that's for Yangan City Hall, the courts, Merrill Manders. Um [3:09:11, 3:09:15]: Some of our main street areas as well, some of the designated areas. [3:09:15, 3:09:16]: How much have we spent? [3:09:16, 3:09:17]: Thus far. [3:09:19, 3:09:21]: Um I think we're gonna get about every bit of that. [3:09:21, 3:09:26]: 'Cause we actually added some to it this year, so I think we're gonna be every bit of spending a hundred thousand. [3:09:27, 3:09:37]: And then we added like a forty thousand dollar budget amendment earlier this year too, correct? Right. I'm I'm saying with the amended amount, that's about where we are right now, about ninety um [3:09:40, 3:09:40]: And [3:09:49, 3:10:01]: And you did say we are still gonna be looking to um change so that way we can get more um bang for our buck. So that's certainly our hope. Yeah for you. Yes, sir. [3:10:02, 3:10:22]: Well if if if this is gonna be one a one time pool and we don't actually know how that's gonna look because we have a the uh new uh public works director's hasn't gotten in place and uh sat down with us to tell us how is how that's gonna look and what he's gonna need to staff it and how that residual is gonna look per year pulling from the general fund. [3:10:22, 3:10:28]: Then I my suggestion is we wait on wait on him to come in and show us what we need to do since it won't be pulled from [3:10:28, 3:10:31]: general funds anyway, we're looking at pulling it from uh [3:10:31, 3:10:34]: From balance one time for the planning, but we need to know what we're [3:10:35, 3:10:39]: putting his money up for for his uh residual work that needs to be done in the area. [3:10:40, 3:10:41]: We uh I just don't like [3:10:42, 3:10:45]: I'm I just don't like going the blind or something like that. [3:10:46, 3:10:48]: If it could be forty thousand. [3:10:48, 3:10:56]: Who said th who you know, who's the said third? Why don't we let the the person in the position that we just put in a position to tell us what we need to do? What he what does he recommend? [3:10:57, 3:11:04]: I don't want to start the council to start stepping over boundaries and making decisions for people with paying money to do that this do that for us. [3:11:04, 3:11:08]: The only challenge with that, Councilman, is he starts on the fifth of December. [3:11:08, 3:11:24]: And the budget vote would be a week later. The money's gonna be coming from fund balance anyway if if if you talk about a one time one time expenditure. So that's gonna be on the fifth and that's gonna be here next year if we're talking about one time amongst it. You can do it as a budget amendment for that for that particular for that specific item. [3:11:24, 3:11:30]: That's certainly an option. So then why don't we wait on the person we're paying the duties, make that decision, make the decision what we need to do? [3:11:33, 3:11:36]: We have to be careful to continue to put stuff on here. [3:11:36, 3:11:44]: that we're gonna be pulling from fund balance on one time expenditures when we're showing the public that we're in c i it continue to show that we're increasing [3:11:45, 3:11:50]: something or that's gonna be residual, that's not really gonna be residual, but we don't know until the person we've hired [3:11:51, 3:11:58]: to put in a position that let us know what it's gonna cost to maintain. We haven't made any agreements with Clayton County, we haven't made any agreements with Henry County. [3:11:59, 3:12:00]: On who who's going to help? [3:12:01, 3:12:06]: give us money to maintain it'cause we're gonna hear from the citizens once we s starting to go ac I agree. We need to [3:12:07, 3:12:10]: Fix one thirty eight, but as soon as we go across those lines we're gonna start hearing it. [3:12:11, 3:12:15]: Why are we maintaining Clayton County? Why are we maintaining Henry County? [3:12:16, 3:12:36]: You you see what I'm saying? It's because it it's just like when I came to my recommendations. It's just like when I came to you and talked to you about why are we going all the way down Rock Quarry Road and you told me that the county and the city are kinda working together on that. Then let's see pus let's put agreement in place when it comes to one thirty eight. Because it's not j the wealthest parts of one thirty eight to me is those [3:12:36, 3:12:39]: Mm. [3:12:40, 3:12:54]: Okay. You and I, Michael, have even spoke I guess with the intergovernment agreements. Um I mentioned it earlier this year that district five commissioners saying that we can work something out. [3:12:54, 3:13:04]: Have you reached out to him? Because this is now is coming back because it could have been something that we you know, probably could have had in place. So how long does it take to actually [3:13:04, 3:13:09]: work uh in a government agreement. [3:13:10, 3:13:13]: Okay. Okay. So is there something we can [3:13:14, 3:13:18]: we can do because I mean I because I I remember mentioning that [3:13:18, 3:13:27]: Um,'cause I I was approached to say, you know, can stop ridge, you know, maintain that and then, you know, you stayed in a intergovernmental agreement. [3:13:27, 3:13:28]: So [3:13:28, 3:13:39]: you know, hopefully that's something that we can do'cause I understand what Councilman Blount's saying. I mean, we don't have that agreement there but I mean they're reaching out to us. So I guess if we can go ahead and [3:13:39, 3:13:48]: go ahead and initiate that then we can move forward. [3:13:48, 3:13:50]: With doing a intergovernmental agreement. [3:13:51, 3:13:58]: to maintain again for for the maintenance of this area. I mean it's it's it's a cost, main survey and that's something we need to take into consideration. [3:13:59, 3:13:59]: So [3:14:00, 3:14:20]: But the the the thing that I want to say is first of all, we're not going into Clayton County. I think honestly that the worst areas along there belong to us. That's undeniable. If you drive down Highway one hundred eight, that area by Kroger and uh Chase Bank, they're doing a tremendous [3:14:20, 3:14:36]: this job, we're failing. And that's what it really comes down to. We need to step it up, not them. And uh, you know, when it when it comes to um uh laying these programs out, I've had personal conversations with the commissioner and he tells me [3:14:36, 3:14:56]: When are y'all gonna do something? Wha what are y what's taking so long? When are y'all gonna step to the plate? I'm not hearing st hold on, I'm hearing come on man, what y'all doing? So I think we just really need to step to the plate and do this uh uh for our citizens, not doing anything extravaGantt and [3:14:56, 3:14:58]: And I think like the city manager said [3:14:59, 3:15:04]: Uh the gentleman starts on the fifth. And this is what really confuses me about this council. [3:15:04, 3:15:08]: I'll sit at these tables on a regular basis and I hear us say [3:15:09, 3:15:12]: We don't want to do all these budget amendments yet. [3:15:12, 3:15:28]: Here we are talking about doing a budget amendment. We're here to make tough choices and do the right thing. I suggest we move forward. Okay, uh let me ask you this, uh, Mr. Harris. You mentioned about our contract with our landscape contract w that we have. When is that do you have any idea when that's due? [3:15:29, 3:15:49]: Is it is it uh like at the beginning of the year or something like that or it's it's just ongoing right now. Yeah, we can we'd s we'd have to get the new one drafted and I think it's just a thirty, sixty day notice. So if we increase that contract, the the funding for that con that increase, an increase in that contract, where does it come from? Does it come from [3:15:48, 3:16:05]: It comes out of fund balance. Yes. It would. Yes. Okay. All right. That's all I said. All right. So be it. Alright, so what did we have here? Uh thirty thousand dollars we're looking at interchange landscaping for one thirty eight and Hudson Bridge. I know we're not taking a formal vote, but uh what's the consensus here? That we do that? [3:16:05, 3:16:12]: I know you say yes, you say yes. I I say no. I don't know we don't know how that's gonna look. We don't know how that looks. [3:16:13, 3:16:14]: Do you have an idea? [3:16:14, 3:16:20]: I don't know. I'm leaning towards increasing it even more than that and I don't know. I don't I don't I'm not ready to make a decision. [3:16:21, 3:16:21]: Hi. [3:16:21, 3:16:30]: So I say yes, so we'll start with thirty thousand dollars and that'll come out of fund balance and that's something that we'll probably have to look under contract itself, yeah as well. [3:16:31, 3:16:37]: Alright, moving on to city events. Um, the first one's pretty simple. It was uh pretty in pink and the comment was [3:16:38, 3:16:58]: No changes. I mean what was proposed in the current budget was five thousand dollars for the pretty in pink, um but simply to break that out into two pieces, one being um half of that for the luncheon and half designated towards a walk. I'm wanna make sure I'm saying that correctly. Well when we had the conversation and I should have got that with you before you [3:16:58, 3:17:11]: printed this. So I did speak with C C um and that's something that she said couldn we can work, but I guess we don't need to itemize it. Okay. Um just leave it at the five thousand and she she can take it from there. [3:17:11, 3:17:17]: That was just a conversation and um I should have got back with you but we did speak and she [3:17:17, 3:17:37]: And she can handle that. So it sounds like nothing's needed. Nothing's needed. All right. Moving on to the next one. Okay. Current budget list for the blue truck is for fifteen thousand. That's reduction from last year's twenty one thousand. And it was a recommendation to further reduce that by another five thousand down to ten thousand dollars. Here's here's my initial thoughts why I said uh [3:17:37, 3:17:39]: Yeah. [3:17:40, 3:18:00]: Wait, I know we're gonna have to somehow renegotiate the contract. And and and in the process of renegotiating the contract I think we're gonna have to come to agreement what a start point, an end point, it won't be as long and won't be as new possibly not as numerous of of a weekly basis based on um uh what we did last year, like every week maybe we'll go to every other week. [3:17:59, 3:18:09]: definitely it'll be a shorter period of time. And also looking at the fact that when when we renegotiate the contract we have to look at how the city can get a little more [3:18:09, 3:18:29]: revenue out of this versus putting out more. I mean and and and look at more sponsorship. So that's why I took the initial thought to reduce it and that aspect because we have to be smarter I say or more efficient in the contract initiation and execution of the contract wherever how we do that. For bidding process or whatever. Now [3:18:29, 3:18:49]: Uh that was that was going to fifteen thousand. Now reducing the additional five uh five thousand that came as a recommendation from elsewhere. But uh so I ob so I start that way is why I initially took the f took the initial reduction. Go right ahead. Yes, sir. That was me. Um and the reason why uh back to the detailed report that I asked them to pull. Um [3:18:49, 3:18:51]: I just had questions. Um [3:18:53, 3:19:01]: on the revenue because looking at the itemized is showing um different amounts uh people paying for a booth. [3:19:01, 3:19:05]: um to come in and it was up and down, up and down. [3:19:05, 3:19:08]: Um one I noticed we had one of our um [3:19:09, 3:19:10]: I guess uh [3:19:11, 3:19:12]: One of our candidates. [3:19:13, 3:19:18]: they paid a certain amount and then when I look further we had another candidate um [3:19:18, 3:19:38]: who was there multiple times but they actually paid the same amount. So looking at this and which is on the detail report it shows different prices and and for as the revenue it just wasn't there and I guess the consistency [3:19:38, 3:19:43]: that's something that we should look at um moving forward. So it like again [3:19:44, 3:19:52]: knowing what we did the prior year, what changes we can do again before that. So again this detailed re um itemized report [3:19:54, 3:20:14]: was pulled and it's you know, everyone c have access to it but that's the reason why I brought that up because if anything, like you said, we're looking to m try to make money, uh reaching out to someone that you know, the changing so that way we can do things differently. But with this report, that's why I brought it up so we can have the conversation. Um [3:20:13, 3:20:18]: Um because it does show where different vendors had different amounts. [3:20:19, 3:20:21]: um for their booths. [3:20:21, 3:20:22]: Mayor Purden. Yes, Mayor. [3:20:23, 3:20:43]: Um if you there are certain packages for different vendors, whether they're a nonprofit organization, whether they're for profit, whether they are campaigning, um there are several different packages. Some vendors um they get a discount if they um like a [3:20:42, 3:21:02]: uh let's say work out any time fitness if they are gonna go throughout the entire fifteen well at that time the entire um thirty weeks or whatever the the thick case may be. So you'll see there that each item or whatever that um we would have to speak to [3:21:02, 3:21:22]: you know, um Cece or Conywell on that. We don't handle that part. The thing is is that it's a city event. It's not here to make money. We don't want to spend out a lot of money on a city event, but it's one of the most, if not the most, popular event that we've had. Um it's something [3:21:22, 3:21:27]: that the northern side of town has and it's been brought here. [3:21:27, 3:21:47]: Um for the first year it was really successful. We have had discussions about reducing it, but you still have to take into consideration DJs. If you want to step up something or step up a theme or do different things, there were times where I even paid money out of my pocket, like I bought a snow machine and different things for Christmas. [3:21:47, 3:22:05]: Christmas. That didn't come from the city. I actually paid for it out of my own pocket and donated. Those things are things that we don't consider but they turned out to be great a great contribution because we had snow in July. So these if you want nice things and events, I recommend that we keep [3:22:06, 3:22:26]: The um amount where it is and I think we probably should have a cushion there. I really was hoping we would just keep even though we would reduce the event amount, we never know what sponsorships we're gonna get. Some might drop off, some might come up, it may be popular, we might get it uh when we do an RFP or whatever the case may be. [3:22:25, 3:22:45]: Maybe hopefully that person or that third party, you know, will have other contributions. But we are in a in a territory on the to of the unknown and I don't want us to mess up such a great event that's been in newspapers and magazines and billboards and that's been advertised for [3:22:45, 3:22:48]: City of Scott Bridge actually has [3:22:48, 3:23:08]: A food truck cart. Okay, clarification for me. I reduce it to fifteen thousand, this says take the ten thousand. You say keep it at the same amount, you're referring to keep it at twenty thousand, twenty one thousand? Is that what you refer to? I was saying keep it at the cushion amount of the twenty one thousand and if it's not spent it's just not spent. I don't think we would spend that type of money. [3:23:08, 3:23:28]: People were throwing out rumors stating that we spent money to have the food trucks come here. That is so not true. The money that we spend are on generators and lights and different well we are if we're gonna get the lights then we can take that out. But generators and lights and entertainment and what [3:23:28, 3:23:48]: little whatnots, whether it's the um tablecloths or whether it's um the overtime a lot of it, a lot of the money was spent on overtime. So that could reduce. So fifteen thousand could work, especially since we're reducing it. I'm not saying it wouldn't. I'm saying it's still good to have a cushion [3:23:48, 3:24:07]: and we have such a popular event now. It's one of our signature thing. It overnight, I mean it became a a success on day one. Um and I I um yeah, I I'm an advocate for it. Yes, I brought it to Stockbridge, but it has nothing to do with the [3:24:07, 3:24:27]: the the public and w how they feel about this event. And so those sponsorships, we can't the numbers there, we can't look at that. We don't know what it'll be next year. And you know, things fluctuate. But what we do know is is that a successful event we might we definitely have agreed that we probably will reduce the weeks um [3:24:27, 3:24:47]: that we have it. Uh but but I'm saying we still need that cushion and it I it would be a disappointment to not be able to fulfill um the things that we have had in the past or to enhance it by reducing the budget to such a small amount. Again Mayor Protein? Yes Mayor I [3:24:47, 3:24:59]: I also wanna say and and thank you for saying, you know, like you're saying with overtime, that's why I brought that up earlier, because even with the finances, you know, just like you said, that's probably the bulk of it as or [3:24:59, 3:25:01]: portions of it there. [3:25:01, 3:25:21]: But also looked at the detail report where we did our um Bridge Fest, Hispanic Fest, which was one day, okay, with that event. And looking at that event, we brought in ten thousand dollars because um like Councilman Blount said earlier, we need to reach out to the community and hopefully if we were able to raise the [3:25:21, 3:25:30]: that amount for the revenue for one day with Bridge Fest, then maybe we can look at doing the same manner when we doing the food trucks. [3:25:30, 3:25:35]: Because they were consistent on what they were what they were bringing in. [3:25:35, 3:25:52]: And it brought in a lot of revenue. So even with that, like you're saying, we were spending out. We just need to look at trying to see if we can do it differently. We already stated if it's not gonna be every week, um, that that will be a big help. But all I'm saying is I'm [3:25:53, 3:25:58]: I'm bringing it to Say again. It'll be every week, just not as many months. [3:25:58, 3:26:03]: Okay. However we decide, but at the same time I'm just looking at [3:26:04, 3:26:17]: what we have here on the detailed report on what we've did and what we can do differently to bring in the revenue because that's something that we need to look at. And and I'm just asking [3:26:18, 3:26:19]: You know, is here [3:26:20, 3:26:27]: In black and white. May I pretend the Bridge Fest for one day actually costs what is the budget for Bridge Fest? Like twenty thousand? [3:26:27, 3:26:28]: Hammert. [3:26:29, 3:26:31]: Twenty five thousand for one day. [3:26:32, 3:26:36]: N yeah, but it's twenty five thousand for one day. This is a thirty [3:26:37, 3:26:38]: Weak. [3:26:38, 3:26:39]: Event [3:26:39, 3:26:59]: once a week. And again, we had to bill sponsors kind of trickled in at first and you know, not knowing what the crowd would look like. And then we started having kind of a waiting list and then it kinda died off. So you just you don't know. And I'm saying that it's to me it's safer to have a cushion for [3:26:59, 3:27:02]: for such a successful event. [3:27:02, 3:27:04]: Um [3:27:05, 3:27:08]: We got to be careful when we start to compare [3:27:09, 3:27:17]: one event to another because one would bring this value, the other one brings another value. I don't think it's one council member up here that don't want to bring value to the city. [3:27:18, 3:27:20]: That being said, I think that we should [3:27:20, 3:27:27]: put a budget on this food trucks I I think it was a very successful event. Could it be uh modified in some areas that it's uh [3:27:28, 3:27:34]: Uh to make it better, of course it can be. But I don't think what is we should come out with a ten thousand dollar budget [3:27:34, 3:27:45]: uh and and say, hey, we're gonna start out by not being successful, by not being uh uh this way or that way. We should uh okay, fifteen thousand dollars. [3:27:45, 3:28:01]: We start right there, you know, and and then we shorten the weeks and we m uh make uh uh uh do whatever we have to do with the vendors. But we can't look at problems in a system that we just implemented. We fix the problems and then we make it better. [3:28:02, 3:28:06]: But we can't reduce it because we know we are able to because we plan on reducing the weeks. [3:28:07, 3:28:12]: that is gonna be operating. So I think fifteen dollars fifteen thousand dollars is a good starting point. [3:28:13, 3:28:30]: All right, thank you for that. And listen Al Center? Yeah, I uh actually I concur with that that uh fifteen thousand would be a a good starting point. And I wanna commend Councilwoman Gantt for this great event. It is a great event. But we have to understand that this event is a asset. [3:28:31, 3:28:43]: we should be making that we should be generating revenue off the event. And by setting the budget at fifteen thousand it puts pressure on us. Because I do recall the dis original discussion [3:28:43, 3:29:00]: surrounded upon sponsorship. We have a tremendous asset where we have one thousand people here during the peak times in the middle of the summer where we should be having it every week when school is out that we need to reap the benefits of. [3:29:00, 3:29:20]: We need to have those food trucks or that vendor provide parking fees to us to be here. We need to charge these vendors individually. We need a policy to set forth, look, you can't show up for free. I don't care who you are, there is benefit in being on this property for this amount of time. [3:29:20, 3:29:40]: Everybody has to be charged. I'm sorry, there is no w more waiving of the fees. This is how it is. But the bottom line is we need to treat this event as a asset and it's a privilege for you to be here and it should generate revenue uh versus anything else. Because that's what it's all about, generating revenue for the city. [3:29:39, 3:29:43]: And I was kinda disappointed I did not [3:29:43, 3:30:01]: We did not attract a new business which was I thought which which what we really need to do here uh with this particular event. But the fifteen thousand is a good start and I think all of us should challenge ourselves to uh contribute to it and bring some sponsorships. [3:30:01, 3:30:06]: All right. So on on that note it seems like fifteen thousand is is fine and we'll stay with that. [3:30:06, 3:30:15]: All right. Last item on the list is Veterans Day Parade. There's a recommendation to reduce that from current amount of ten thousand down to eight thousand dollars. [3:30:16, 3:30:36]: That was an error? Okay, fine. I mean if that was an error, fine. I think it stays at ten thousand. I think we had a great activity. So ten thousand is lest someone has any change? Okay, see none? Okay, we'll leave it at ten thousand. What was the majority cost for? It's historically it runs about anywhere from seven to eight, eight, five, nine for the last couple of years. Ten gives that b but [3:30:36, 3:30:45]: Buffer to that. Yes sir. Okay, we'll remain that. Michael Williams. Sir, this is what I was afraid of. You know you know it's a public hearing. [3:30:45, 3:31:05]: All right. And I can go around and ask for comments. But I will get comments from what? The staff. I need comments from the public. This is as counsel this is kinda why I was wondering whether or not we should get comments up front. But I uh but guarantee next time we do this we'll get comments before we get in discussion. But I'm I'm gonna go through the routine because it is a public hearing. I'm gonna go through [3:31:05, 3:31:11]: the routine. Okay, I'm gonna open up the public hearing. Alright. So I do any comments from my left side. [3:31:11, 3:31:19]: No comments from the left side. Any comments from the middle? None from the any comments from the right side. Public hearing is now closed. No comments, sir. [3:31:19, 3:31:19]: Yeah. [3:31:20, 3:31:27]: Oh d I'm sorry, d oh cool, I don't do oh well I'm sorry, do I have any comments? Do I have any comments? I mean I'm I'm s [3:31:28, 3:31:30]: Do I have any comments? I'm sorry. [3:31:32, 3:31:34]: Well do I have I mean. [3:31:34, 3:31:47]: If you have any comments, come forward. Excuse me. So sorry. And then they see this tape. All right. Please state your name and your address, please. [3:31:52, 3:32:08]: I have I I realize I have to make this comment. I wanna make sure excuse me, Mildred Reed, five thirty Creek View Overlook. Thank you, go ahead, please. And listening to the discussion. Okay. My initial reaction and I know this was a public hearing. I know you posted the budget [3:32:09, 3:32:12]: on the website for us to review and look at. [3:32:13, 3:32:16]: I think for some reason I'm not quite sure why. I'm a little disappointed. [3:32:16, 3:32:21]: within the council because some of the questions and discussions that's being asked now [3:32:21, 3:32:33]: I felt that you all should have known the answer. Why why was it such a long discussion about the budget? And then I also want to correct um publicly correct um [3:32:34, 3:32:46]: Elfin Alexander on a comment that he made, and maybe I misinterpreted it so we can get it straight. Uh you mentioned about Eagles Landing, Hudson Bridge, keeping the area looking beautiful. [3:32:47, 3:32:48]: Yeah it's a good one. [3:32:48, 3:32:53]: And you said they come out of their own pocket. They have a masters homeowners association. [3:32:54, 3:32:56]: that the DDA has contributed [3:32:57, 3:33:02]: Uh oh, one thousand dollars plus towards see so Stockbridge is paying into that. [3:33:03, 3:33:11]: It's things like that. I just again you can correct me if I'm wrong, but it's things like that that we need to be more in tune to all of us. [3:33:11, 3:33:14]: Me too is I'm listening. I understood. [3:33:14, 3:33:30]: Particularly John Blount, uh Councilman Blount, you know, the things that we need to talk about and the budget. You lost the audience because we were going too long with discussions. We really should not have lost this audience here because other people. [3:33:30, 3:33:40]: Now I stuck it out because I wanted to and I'm trying to learn and understand. But some of this discussion with with the council should have been held. [3:33:41, 3:34:00]: during the work session, during the finance meeting, because I'm I said to myself, where were they? I wasn't at the finance meeting, had other commitments, but I felt the council members, knowing this budget was serious, everyone should have been at the finance meeting to talk about some of these issues so that when it comes to us [3:34:00, 3:34:11]: My brains will be spinning trying to figure out what direction you're heading in. That's all I have to say. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Mill. Can I say something? Okay. Um are any other comments from the audience? [3:34:12, 3:34:12]: All right. [3:34:13, 3:34:33]: Did I say so? From the aud from an audience. Yeah, you can say something in a second. From the audience. That's why I'll make sure I close the public hearing from the audience. Okay. Yes. Counsel, do you have a respond? I I just want to respond to Ms. Mildred and thank you so much for being supportive to all of us. But it was um requested [3:34:33, 3:34:46]: that we have a special meeting so that way some concerns that were on here that we could discuss it that never happened. So sometimes I mean uh I've requested with the city manager [3:34:46, 3:35:00]: Um and we just didn't it didn't happen. So I'll p w ap apologize along with everybody, but I did request that so that way I can have a understanding because some and I was in the finance meeting but certain things that [3:35:01, 3:35:21]: you know, were asked and I even had a concern there that I wanted to know so that way I get a understanding because this detailed report is what I was asking and that wasn't available. So when I had the opportunity to sit down with the city manager, I received that information and I asked for us to be able to have a meeting just with council, but that [3:35:20, 3:35:22]: That never happened. [3:35:22, 3:35:25]: So I just wanted to let you know that the request did go forth. [3:35:25, 3:35:26]: Okay. [3:35:26, 3:35:26]: Thank you. [3:35:27, 3:35:28]: Yes, yes sir. Go ahead, please. [3:35:29, 3:35:29]: Um [3:35:31, 3:35:34]: Thank you, Ms. Sareb, for your comments. [3:35:34, 3:35:38]: One of the things that that's not happening here tonight that I thought was gonna happen [3:35:39, 3:35:46]: is some of the things that we did discuss as a council in the in the uh finance committee meeting. We discussed about having [3:35:47, 3:35:57]: two songs of summers instead of three. We discussed about having one bridge fest instead of two. That wasn't discussed here tonight. That'll save us twenty thousand dollars. If we if we take [3:35:58, 3:36:07]: If we take the forty thousand dollars and have two Sounds of Summers and make it thirty thousand, we're saving ten thousand dollars. If we take two bridge fests and make it one at uh [3:36:07, 3:36:21]: At uh fifteen thousand that'll save us another ten thousand dollars. That's twenty thousand dollars that we didn't discuss, that I thought we all had discussed as a council. I didn't think we had to do a individual meeting to bring these issues back up and saving money. [3:36:22, 3:36:37]: I thought we was gonna be dis I didn't know I I think saving twenty thousand dollars is more d better dispute than th whether we're gonna pay uh the you know, do I'm talking about to me that's solid. I thought we were gonna discuss that tonight, but we didn't. [3:36:37, 3:36:41]: If if I m if I may, uh y you know, again the [3:36:43, 3:36:47]: This is the council's budget and the council is free to discuss anything they'd like to discuss. [3:36:48, 3:37:08]: Yeah, the invitation I put forward was to get specific ideas from each council member as far as what were areas of concern in order so when we came in here for the meeting today we have some kind of a guide to follow on. I'm happy to discuss anything. Those who who who who opted to meet and provided me with items, that's what I brought forward. [3:37:08, 3:37:13]: other items certainly it's at the council's discretion to bring those up. But I I you know I I [3:37:14, 3:37:16]: So I'm not I'm not sure if if if you're not sure if you're [3:37:16, 3:37:36]: You the anticipation was that I was going to bring those up. I mean I was simpl that that's why I extended the invitation to council members to find out specifically what every item is that they wanted to discuss. This is my I'm I'm newly elected, so this is my first budget hearing. [3:37:36, 3:37:53]: So what I expect if it doesn't happen, I'm gonna question that and so if there's a remedy for it then we'll remedy it right now. Because I'd like for us to talk about having one uh two sounds of summons instead of three because we come right back with a bridge fest and have one bridge fest instead of two. [3:37:54, 3:37:57]: Uh you know, that's three concerts. [3:37:58, 3:38:02]: and that we can have in sequence that can save us twenty thousand dollars. [3:38:04, 3:38:13]: I one one s hold on a second. Are you are you done with that commentary? Okay, go ahead please. I I wanna say this and I think hopefully this is not the last meeting. [3:38:14, 3:38:23]: There's there's three budget hearings. So this is just the first one. So there's two more after this one. Well is that's two I th this two or three. [3:38:24, 3:38:44]: And you take public we do take public a comment uh at that when we approve it we do take so there's total of three times that you will get to express your opinion. So if you did not get heard tonight, there's a sub there's uh subsequent opportunities in in [3:38:44, 3:38:46]: in order to in order to do that. [3:38:47, 3:39:07]: I I just want to say uh to the public, thank you, Miss Reed, for your for your input and just know one thing. I think we're all on the same team here and we wanna see things get done. And my mentioning the Eagles landing committee does not raise that community above anything else. It just states the fact that they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars [3:39:07, 3:39:07]: Yeah. [3:39:08, 3:39:28]: maintaining their own right of way so the city does not have to do that. So I pointed to that because that is something that they do. Each homeowner uh actually contributes in the m to the Master Association. So my my pointing is not to say that they're better than anybody else. It just simply says that that that [3:39:28, 3:39:29]: That's what they do. [3:39:29, 3:39:44]: in order to maintain their side uh of the bridge. So I thought that we should probably do something as well. It was not to elevate them above uh anybody else. If I did that was that was not uh my intent to do that. Thank you. [3:39:45, 3:40:05]: All right. There was a c another comment down here? Well, um just you know, a concern and I may just call a finance committee meeting, but that's one of the reasons why I suggested us having another sit down at the table when we uh once the like in the past, last year, if the mayor proposed to [3:40:05, 3:40:21]: a budget change then we had another meeting to discuss those those line items so that when we get here to the public meeting that the public knows that des even though the finance committee meeting's public, that city council meeting th like the meeting tonight [3:40:21, 3:40:41]: we can eliminate some of the small things and hand out I would like for the public to be able to see it online or whatever wherever it is, hand out the actual budget and not go over these small line item discussions. To me that's why I personally thought that we should have had [3:40:41, 3:40:57]: had another finance committee meeting in in regards to that and we may still do that so that we can iron out some of the other details. Um especially when we have other questions in regards to some of the items. I've seen several items here that are just missing numbers, period. [3:40:58, 3:41:18]: So we we need to, you know, know what we're gonna do with those and come to some final resolution. Um I I apologize to the public that is still here and those of you that are watching, hopefully, you know, next time we'll have, you know, some more concrete numbers, but we have to work through this. I think that Mayor [3:41:17, 3:41:32]: Pro Tem did an excellent job at doing what he had to do to get it to where it is at this point. Um, I just think that some of these discussions can be done at a work session setting and the best place to do that is in our finance committee meeting. [3:41:32, 3:41:52]: I would just simply say this. Uh and I think the the city manager and Mayor Pro Tem really did an outstanding job under tough circumstances. I think what really happened is I took advantage of that individual meeting. Ms. Robinson did too. [3:41:52, 3:42:11]: And I think our stuff our items are off the table. I just really think that, you know, maybe m Councilwoman Gantt you and Councilman Gantt Blount should subsequently have those same individual meetings so at the next council meeting we can discuss the items that you want to bring to the table. Huh? [3:42:13, 3:42:33]: Well th we well we we w I s I I received information that each council person was supposed to come in uh to have an individual meeting with the city manager and the finance direct finance uh department so we could discuss w the items under the budget that were brought to our attention. That's what I that's [3:42:33, 3:42:53]: That's what I received. I don't know whether you received it. All right, let me let me interject here. That's absolutely correct. Now what's happening folks, I I presented the I present but because of the responsibility that I have and functioning comp and as an interim mayor, I submitted this budget proposal and I appreciate the other comments in reference to uh myself and the city manager along with the treasurer did a good job [3:42:53, 3:43:13]: this and I appreciate all that. But what it amounts to after f further conversation and and and taking a taking an initial um request from uh uh Councilwoman Robinson about having a special call meeting after initial convers uh additional conversation opted and I'll take the responsibility opting not to do that but opted opted to have any comments that [3:43:13, 3:43:33]: uh the council may have to direct those comments to have a meeting with Mr. Harris and the treasurer, collect those data, that data, and then we go through this first hearing together in that aspect. And versus having a a another public type of meeting in that aspect. So that's the decision and the direction we went down. And and Mr. Harris did say [3:43:33, 3:43:53]: sent out an email in reference to all the for you council members to come forward and and to sit down and and hash through that uh with that because I actually I did not want to have individual meetings or I d I didn't think it was necessary to have a finance meeting and I've already mentioned that in an email and also uh to uh Councilwoman Gantt on the phone thinking that this is now the [3:43:53, 3:44:13]: the the the this is now the uh budget. Uh to me the financial meeting is is off the table because it's a budget for us to discuss and I personally not want to discuss uh the budget in totally unless I had the entire council. That's a position I I I took on that uh to be in a public setting like this to have this conversation because I submitted this. [3:44:13, 3:44:33]: Um and so I think that when I have deep conversation about it I need to have an entire council uh present to do that if I'm going to be involved anyway. And I think that's proper for me in this position to do that. Uh and I understand it what what my what the budget is and it it may it may not certain things the budget uh may not pass. That's fine. I'm fine with that. [3:44:33, 3:44:53]: I'm I'm probably fine'cause it's all about debating, it's all about doing the best for the citizens and and coming together and making a decision. So um I so I'm fine. But I didn't want to do that and gonna be conversation unless I had the tired council present. So um so there's still an opportunity obviously and and I said earlier and if if we need to go [3:44:53, 3:45:02]: down through all those things about the concert and and British Fest right now, so be it. I mean I mentioned that earlier three or four times already, if we need to do that. Yes ma'am. [3:45:03, 3:45:04]: Thank you. [3:45:04, 3:45:24]: Thank you so much. Um for everything that you've done and even stating that, you know, we did have conversation. Same way with Michael. Um you guys s set the platform. Um we took it some took advantage of it because that what was there. And all I'm saying is it the opportunity was there. We all have [3:45:24, 3:45:25]: Yeah. [3:45:25, 3:45:45]: Um a lot of things probably go our way. A lot of things may not go out go our way. But having the conversation, um, that's the way it was played tonight. So I appreciate you. Um however it didn't, you know, may not turn out the way you want it to, but at the end of the day we had the conversation and each council had [3:45:45, 3:45:50]: a voice and again like our vision statement we have to respect that [3:45:50, 3:45:58]: Either way it goes because that was laid out by our city manager and our mayor pro tem and that's the way it played out. So I appreciate you. [3:45:59, 3:46:19]: All right. Now, I mean if you know the comments now I mentioned it's up to now uh once again, it's up up to the council. It it's it's a simple majority. Three. So do we need to continue on with all those particular issues that people have concerns about that we didn't cover tonight. Do you want to keep going? I mean, yeah it's late, but hey, if you want to do this we can go. [3:46:19, 3:46:21]: I'm this I'm this I'm the same. [3:46:22, 3:46:25]: I mean do what else do we need to cover to see? Yes sir. [3:46:25, 3:46:45]: In the future, why don't we be more specific then I guess. Okay. To say we'll discuss what we haven't already discussed. Bring any issues that we haven't already discussed. Because when we sit in a finance committee meeting and we discuss this and everybody shaking their head, and where I'm coming where I come from that still mean yes or I I'm in agreement. [3:46:45, 3:46:50]: And so we in agreement with something and then we come here to knight [3:46:50, 3:46:58]: And we got everything else on the table. These things I agree with Miss uh Miss Reed. These things should have been paying out long before coming in here. [3:46:58, 3:47:07]: You know, we should still have the public sitting here i interjecting. You know, uh we got staff here tired, been here all day yawning. [3:47:08, 3:47:12]: You know, I'm just saying if we're gonna if we're gonna discuss the budget [3:47:12, 3:47:20]: Then we need to call meetings in between. If there's not an understanding between us, we should be understanding something when we come and sit in this chamber. [3:47:21, 3:47:31]: And right now we're just not it this shouldn't happen again. May Okay. May I pro tip? Yes ma'am. Thank you again for acknowledging that you were [3:47:31, 3:47:51]: requested to do another meeting. It didn't happen. But it happened. So we can just move forward. Okay. Okay. So anything else? Do we need to do we I do I I just look because I mean there's other things that's still covered on the agenda. I just wanna know if we need to continue on with this further. I just need to uh I mean hey I mean I don't do this by myself. [3:47:51, 3:47:51]: Oh. [3:47:52, 3:47:53]: Removal. [3:47:54, 3:47:55]: May pretend. [3:47:55, 3:47:56]: I um [3:47:57, 3:48:17]: I think and and this is just a suggestion for me. We have other hearings and so in the meantime we can look over the budget and maybe discuss um you know, send a email or we have a another call work session or something in a in a relaxed environment where we can discuss these items at another time when we you know, go through the budget. [3:48:17, 3:48:21]: budget a little bit more but as of tonight we have those items up. [3:48:21, 3:48:41]: Um if unless someone has something um y'all want to discuss right now, we can always still we're still it's still a working budget in coming together. So we can bring up those other things at the next meeting. Well my suggestion is if that's the case if if and uh that those other items, additional items, once again filter those items too [3:48:41, 3:48:52]: Mr Harris, or sit on top with Mr Harris and Linda neighbors who collect those items, he'll bring he'll collect those items, give uh send them back out to everybody and we'll have the discussion at the next budget hearing. Yes ma'am. [3:48:53, 3:49:03]: I'm confused because I thought w it was just stated we just had finance meetings and we've no and we've already went through the budget. So while we asking the questions [3:49:04, 3:49:24]: Am I looking at this? Well the what I understand there are additional questions about the budget that have not been addressed thus far. Okay. They didn't attend the meeting. If someone has something that has not yet been addressed, uh we can stay here and address them tonight. But if that's not the decision, they can they can have a meeting. We'll set it down on time, as Michael Harris said this [3:49:24, 3:49:37]: City Manager mentioned and sent an email to everybody, along with Linda set up a time and and sit down and talk about those issues that we haven't already addressed and then pres present those back to the entire council for our next budget hearing to go through them. [3:49:37, 3:49:57]: Mayor for Tim. Mayor It's not about who attended a meeting. Um I think we had we we went to a finance committee meeting, we looked at the um items and then you made changes. I did. And and I know. Right. And and so you brought those back to us. I'm looking at the budget tonight. [3:49:57, 3:50:17]: night and there are numbers missing like there's um Main Street, there's no number there. We talked about historic um preservation committee. We talked about there's nothing on DDA right now. So those things are things that we're gonna address and just send over. Has nothing to do when I last I knew the f we had all the [3:50:17, 3:50:37]: already set the budget of the fifteen thousand, let's say for example food truck. We already agreed so if someone brought it to us, you know, maybe we should just get it in advance, say these are the issues and and what try to work those out before coming to our public meeting that's scheduled for the so that the public can see what that concrete [3:50:37, 3:50:57]: document looks like. I'm just saying it it has nothing to do I think the point is being missed has nothing to do with who met with who. It's about the actual it's it's about the actual budget and items that are actually missing at this point. Okay. How about how about this? We we let's move on to uh we'll we'll we'll we got another budget here in [3:50:56, 3:51:00]: We'll move on to city manager's comments, sir. You got any comments? [3:51:01, 3:51:08]: No, just uh again it was mentioned earlier, but please continue to keep the Williams family and thoughts and prayers. Okay, thank you. Councilman Alexander. [3:51:08, 3:51:28]: Yes, I would like to thank everybody who was uh very patient with us. I'm not in a hurry, ladies and gentlemen. The bottom line is we're here to be s good good stewards of the citizens' money. Uh when documentation was brought forward by Miss Robinson, I applaud that because she brought documentation with facts. [3:51:28, 3:51:35]: And I listened. And you know what? I will do that every single time. These meetings are supposed to be public meetings. [3:51:36, 3:51:56]: Where we entertain. I didn't think the process was to bring a finished budget to the public because we gotta hear from the public and then we might actually make more changes based on what the public says. So I'm okay with this process and the state set this process out that there would be these successive hearings. [3:51:56, 3:52:04]: hearings. So let's take advantage of those and do what is proper. But uh on my actual comments themselves, I would say that [3:52:05, 3:52:25]: I'm appreciative that we're actually moving forward with the Economic Development Director position because that is something that we need somebody working on that every single day, one hundred percent of the time. We're working on the one hundred thirty eight overlay uh with design guidelines to be put in place to protect the value of those business owners [3:52:25, 3:52:30]: and homeowners in that area. And the last thing that uh I would like to say is [3:52:30, 3:52:34]: Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to have the discussion on transit. [3:52:35, 3:52:55]: in Stockbridge. We need to have we need to start that discussion today because our citizens are suffocating in traffic and we have to do something about that issue. Whether that's rail, whether that's bus service, whatever that is, we need to address these issues uh head on in the upcoming years and have a plan. Thank you. [3:52:56, 3:52:56]: Cut from a blank. [3:52:58, 3:53:01]: Yeah, I'd like to thank everybody that's still tuning in. Um [3:53:02, 3:53:07]: This city has a lot of work to do and I believe we do have the people in place to make things happen. [3:53:08, 3:53:11]: Uh Mr. Stark came by and he talked about our vision statement. [3:53:13, 3:53:16]: And it's not so much the what we say, it's so much about what we do. [3:53:17, 3:53:20]: And so if we're gonna be a teen [3:53:21, 3:53:25]: Then that representation representation of a team has to be shown to the public. [3:53:26, 3:53:30]: And when we're sitting in public and we don't look like a team [3:53:30, 3:53:33]: Then it doesn't matter about what we say, it's about what we do. [3:53:34, 3:53:37]: So I believe this council is aggressive and want to move the city forward. [3:53:38, 3:53:39]: But we have to do it as a team. [3:53:40, 3:53:41]: We have to look like a team. [3:53:42, 3:53:45]: We have to make things happen as a team because we can't move individually. [3:53:46, 3:53:55]: So how does that team look? That team looks like everybody being transparent about what they want to do, how we wanna do it, and let's move forward in doing it. So thank you everybody for being it. [3:53:56, 3:53:57]: Got some one gap. [3:53:58, 3:54:18]: I just wanna thank everyone for being here. Thank you for your continued support. Um, you know, um Stockbridge is headed in a great direction and plu uh please enjoy your holiday season. This is one of my favorite times of the year and just th thank our team for staking it out with us. Um [3:54:18, 3:54:20]: through these late hours. And stop small. [3:54:23, 3:54:24]: Castlewoman, Robinson. [3:54:25, 3:54:28]: Yes. Um thanks to the staff. [3:54:29, 3:54:35]: Um, I know it's kinda hard to to do what you do, but thank you. Um [3:54:36, 3:54:56]: again to the city manager, thank you for the outline that you had. Um so that way we can go through the budget tonight. Um the opportunity was there and I just want to say, you know, to you and Mayor Pro Tem it was a lot of hard work and we definitely appreciate you both for that. Um a lot of the citizens that were here [3:54:56, 3:55:16]: They didn't get to stay for the ending. Um, but we do have some that Miss Mildred she got to speak out and I'm glad she did, so that way she would get the full understanding that the request did go forth. Um Mayor Pro Tem made the decision for for it not to happen. Um so we're here, but we make the best of it. Um [3:55:16, 3:55:21]: And when we're talking um and I agree with Councilman Blount, when we're talking team [3:55:21, 3:55:23]: Everyone has a voice. [3:55:24, 3:55:25]: And [3:55:25, 3:55:31]: I may not like what one may say, but guess what? That's their voice and I must listen. [3:55:32, 3:55:34]: There's nothing to be jokeful with. [3:55:34, 3:55:36]: [14136.6, 14147.0]: Your voice is no louder than theirs. Because if you're a part of a team, if they have a question, just like you tell kids, no question is a stupid question. [3:55:47, 3:55:53]: Ask the question so that way you'll know. And then the person that's on on the team [3:55:54, 3:55:56]: If anything, just listen. [3:55:57, 3:56:17]: Because in order for us to move forward we have to work together. Not one person is different than the other. We're all one and we're a team. And until we get there, I mean we just got to listen and let that person or persons have their voice. And again, um I want to be in prayer with um Winona's. [3:56:17, 3:56:28]: family been knowing her t all my life and it it really hit hard so definitely keep the family in their pr in your prayers and um [3:56:29, 3:56:44]: And if we can do anything for the family, um I know the staff is here and we'll be definitely there for them. And just say ha everyone have a good evening. Um and again thank you for those citizens that are here and staff for your patience. [3:56:45, 3:57:02]: Appreciate it. Thank you. And um I also want uh s mention about Winona Williams and the fact that uh condolences to the family of prayers to the family in in this most difficult time. Saspian I believe she's a uh at least a ten plus year employee of of the city. Uh so and I I'm pretty sure that uh [3:57:02, 3:57:05]: that uh plenty of us will attend a funeral here next Saturday. [3:57:05, 3:57:08]: To give due respect to her and her family in this aspect. [3:57:08, 3:57:16]: It's uh past uh Friday we had an outstanding Aventors Day uh activity uh parade and luncheon. It's the biggest parade we've had thus far and the luncheon went very well. [3:57:17, 3:57:24]: and uh appreciate uh the support from the staff and from the community and and the council here for supporting our veterans in the area. [3:57:24, 3:57:26]: Had a great time. Look forward to next year as well. [3:57:27, 3:57:47]: Um and also uh appreciate the the the amount of folks the citizens are out here uh tonight earlier for all the proclamations and and readings that we did but also uh to be engaged as we go through this budget the initial budget process and uh the reading here and we'll make sure that we'll get the public hearing and public comments maybe up front this time. [3:57:47, 3:57:51]: [14272.4, 14279.3]: Um and I I don't think we actually meet uh uh before we have Thanksgiving. So happy Thanksgiving everybody. [3:57:59, 3:58:07]: Uh have a good time with your family and friends and loved ones uh for the Thanksgiving Thanksgiving holiday and continue to be safe during that particular holiday. [3:58:07, 3:58:13]: On that note I'll read the announcements here. Uh I got a community housing forum Thursday, november seventeenth. [3:58:13, 3:58:14]: Six PM [3:58:14, 3:58:18]: It right here at City Hall and the Chin Council Chamber, spearheaded by Councilwoman Robinson. [3:58:19, 3:58:24]: Noel in November, Friday, November eighteenth, six PM to six uh to eight thirty PM [3:58:24, 3:58:26]: At Merrill Manor's Conference Center. [3:58:26, 3:58:27]: And [3:58:28, 3:58:29]: And the mission [3:58:29, 3:58:32]: For that mission you have to have one or more unwrapped toy to bring. [3:58:33, 3:58:43]: Coffee with a cops, Saturday, November nineteenth, eight thirty at Epson's uh Delhi, eight thirty ten actually Epson's Delhi, fourteen forty five Rock Quarry Road, spearheaded by myself. [3:58:43, 3:58:50]: down to the development authority meeting Monday, november twenty first, six PM, right here in City Hall at the Levi meeting room. [3:58:53, 3:58:53]: That's careful. [3:58:54, 3:59:01]: Mm-hmm. Okay. [3:59:01, 3:59:07]: Council Worksteps session uh meeting is Tuesday, November twenty ninth, six PM right here in City Hall in the council chambers. [3:59:08, 3:59:11]: Uh Christmas Gala, Thursday, December first. [3:59:11, 3:59:21]: five thirty to nine PM at Merrill Manors Conference Center, which is uh and they actually we have a free shuttle service from City Hall from five until ten PM to get you down to Merrill Manors. [3:59:21, 3:59:27]: Uh building committee meeting Tuesday, December sixth, um six PM right here at City Hall in the Patrick Henry meeting room. [3:59:28, 3:59:30]: And I will uh I'm the committee chair for that. [3:59:30, 3:59:32]: Council meeting Monday, December twelfth. [3:59:33, 3:59:40]: Uh that's the six PM right here in City Hall Council Chambers and that is uh the actual f uh final public budget hearing and adoption, December twelfth. [3:59:41, 3:59:45]: Uh I forgot to mention that work session on the twenty ninth is our second budget reading. [3:59:45, 3:59:48]: On the nineteenth on the twenty ninth, I'm sorry. [3:59:48, 3:59:49]: That's the second budget ring, correct? [3:59:50, 4:00:03]: Yes, yes, that's correct. And I believe right now we auto tentatively have a zoning advisory board meeting on that Monday the twenty eighth. Okay. Monday twenty zoning advisory board meeting, okay,'cause it's not on this list here. Okay. [4:00:04, 4:00:07]: Okay. [4:00:08, 4:00:14]: But uh duly note it and we'll put that on the on the website and um and uh to let everybody know that as well. [4:00:15, 4:00:18]: uh public works committee meeting dis uh Thursday, december fifteenth. [4:00:19, 4:00:24]: It's five o'clock uh PM in Patrick Henry meeting room and Councilman Robinson's a committee chair for that. [4:00:25, 4:00:29]: In a town hall meeting, public safety committee, Thursday, december fifteenth, seven PM [4:00:29, 4:00:33]: Location is Floyd Chapel Baptist Church one oh four First Street. [4:00:33, 4:00:37]: Right here in Stockbridge, of course, and Councilman Alexander is the chairperson for that. [4:00:38, 4:00:41]: And then uh okay. [4:00:41, 4:00:44]: It has here a special call meeting Friday, December sixteenth. [4:00:45, 4:00:48]: At six PM at City Hall in the Council Chambers. [4:00:48, 4:01:08]: Sir. And that goes back to the conversation regarding the annexation. Um that would involve the Carriage Lake property as well as the Jodico property. Okay. And the sixteenth is that is that date and that's because of the time frame that is needed to from the For advertising purposes. We have to make sure we meet certain advertising requirements. [4:01:08, 4:01:09]: Are you ready? [4:01:10, 4:01:11]: Well we don't [4:01:11, 4:01:13]: Relish having [4:01:13, 4:01:25]: council meetings on Friday evening but we think it will be a relatively quick one and and I think it certainly it it it bears getting done as soon as possible. I mean but business is business, huh? All right. All right. [4:01:25, 4:01:35]: On that note, are there any other uh announcements or meetings that uh not published here I need to mention? And if not, I would assume that we have an executive session still. Is that correct or not? [4:01:35, 4:01:38]: Staff does not have the atoms for execution. [4:01:38, 4:01:42]: Well, let me ask the council, do we have any items for a second session? [4:01:42, 4:01:43]: Anybody. [4:01:44, 4:01:44]: Okay. [4:01:45, 4:01:51]: I g uh say no to that. All right. So I guess what I need then is a is a motion to adjourn. [4:01:55, 4:01:58]: All right, the second. My second. Anything further discussion? [4:01:59, 4:02:01]: Well let's let's end this meeting. Meeting's over. [4:02:35, 4:02:55]: [14574.9, 14590.1]: Oh yeah, I'm not sure. [4:03:12, 4:03:15]:

--- title: October 25 2016 Work Session Meeting date: 2016-10-25 source: 2016-10-25_October_25_2016_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:20, 0:00:27]: [ 29.0, 29.8]: Hey. [0:00:30, 0:00:31]: Freddie and thanks for the [0:00:32, 0:00:36]: Yeah, meeting it. [0:00:36, 0:00:44]: [ 45.4, 50.9]: Hey, how are you doing? [0:01:02, 0:01:06]: [101.1, 103.6]: Thank you. How you been? [0:01:45, 0:01:51]: You laugh at me. [0:01:52, 0:01:55]: That's stupid. Yeah. [0:01:57, 0:01:59]: Yeah, yeah. [0:02:00, 0:02:02]: Absolutely. [0:02:24, 0:02:26]: Stand by folks. Uh we'll be get started shortly. [0:04:42, 0:04:46]: Okay. I'd like to call the uh council work session to order. [0:04:47, 0:04:49]: Tuesday, October twenty fifth. [0:04:50, 0:04:51]: Two thousand sixteen. [0:04:52, 0:04:53]: Invocation? [0:04:54, 0:04:55]: Mr. Bott? [0:04:59, 0:05:04]: Dear Heavenly Gracious Father, we thank you, Lord, first of all for your power and might. We thank you for this session. [0:05:05, 0:05:10]: We thank you, Heavenly Father, that you would empower our minds and our abilities, Heavenly Father, to help move the city forward. [0:05:10, 0:05:14]: We thank you for all you do and we just say thank you, Father, for [0:05:14, 0:05:25]: Just empowering each and every one of us here, Lord. We thank you for this great city. We thank you for the great vision. We thank you for the movement that you're about to do. It's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. [0:05:26, 0:05:38]: It seems to be a prayer. [0:05:45, 0:05:46]: Roll call, please. [0:05:48, 0:05:58]: Councilman Alexander, Councilman Blount, Present. Mayor Pro Tem Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt, present. Councilwoman Robinson. Present. Mayor Pro Tem, you have a quorum. Thank you very much. [0:05:59, 0:06:01]: I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:06:02, 0:06:10]: Mayor Pro Tem. Yes, ma'am I move that we amend the agent agenda to add on item number ten under new business. Um [0:06:11, 0:06:14]: Lamig Paving Projects. [0:06:15, 0:06:16]: Items from Splost. [0:06:17, 0:06:20]: And I also and to remove [0:06:20, 0:06:22]: Item number eight. [0:06:22, 0:06:24]: Until after executive session. [0:06:26, 0:06:26]: Okay. [0:06:27, 0:06:37]: And number item on the on the number of New Business. Appointment to fill in ethics board vacancy to place that at the in after executive session. Thank you. Zero second. [0:06:38, 0:06:39]: Okay, any further discussion? [0:06:40, 0:06:42]: All in favor, please end indicate. [0:06:42, 0:06:43]: Okay, so there we go. [0:06:44, 0:06:45]: Um [0:06:45, 0:06:47]: Review of the minutes uh for uh [0:06:49, 0:06:50]: September twelfth. [0:06:51, 0:06:53]: And uh September twenty seventh. [0:06:54, 0:06:55]: Of twenty sixteen. [0:06:55, 0:06:56]: They are under edit and review. [0:06:57, 0:06:57]: Okay. [0:06:57, 0:06:58]: All right. [0:07:00, 0:07:00]: We'll move on. [0:07:01, 0:07:02]: Public comments. Do we have any? [0:07:05, 0:07:07]: There were none submitted to the clerk. Okay. [0:07:08, 0:07:15]: And actually the next thing we do is ceremonial and that deals with the certificates for completion to the Citizens Academy, two thousand sixteen. [0:07:31, 0:07:39]: I don't know what you want to see. Great day, right? Citizens Academy practice. And um [0:07:43, 0:07:55]: Uh well I tell you what, all the folks that are here that are graduates, why don't you come on up and I'll issue those uh individuals to you when you get all the graduates and I'll have to call a few names uh [0:07:55, 0:07:57]: Yeah, this could have a good system in hand. [0:08:12, 0:08:18]: Congratulations, Lower. Okay, now you have a better understanding of how city government stopped works. [0:08:20, 0:08:25]: uh help keep us straight, right? Ah no they need to be doing this. [0:08:30, 0:08:30]: Um [0:08:32, 0:08:37]: Looks like you're being your office who out of the way. [0:08:42, 0:08:49]: Okay. Um well okay. [0:08:53, 0:08:58]: I I'm not very good at selling colours and I really can't overcoat so I can't say. [0:09:05, 0:09:10]: The first person is Yvonne Ibrahim. [0:09:22, 0:09:26]: Yvonne Abraham, if she's not here. All right. [0:09:31, 0:09:34]: Ozina Bailey? [0:09:34, 0:09:41]: Rosina Bailey. Well, here you are, Ms. Bailey, and congratulations to you. Okay. [0:09:45, 0:09:48]: I don't know. I I'll take some time. Do you want any comments? Do you want to say anything? [0:09:49, 0:10:01]: Actually I just moved here in uh January and so when I saw the opportunity to to participate in this program, I was very pleased. I I do have a governmental background. I am a certified public manager. So it was actually a very, very good program. [0:10:01, 0:10:08]: uh getting to understand how the city of Stockbridge works and functions. So I very well enjoyed the uh process. [0:10:09, 0:10:10]: Harry Bailey. [0:10:12, 0:10:18]: Oh, you want you want you wanna take her for her? Okay. Do you want any comment for her? No, oh no, okay. All right. [0:10:26, 0:10:30]: The barber. Okay. There you go. Congratulations, by the way. [0:10:35, 0:10:39]: Yeah, okay. You want no comments? Okay. [0:10:40, 0:10:40]: Thank you very much. [0:10:42, 0:10:48]: Phyllis Burlet? Is that how you pronounce it? Okay, great. Congratulations to you as well. [0:10:50, 0:11:03]: Wanna make good comments? Um just wanna say I've been uh uh resident of Stockbridge for about fourteen years now and as a single parent raising a child I just wanted to know more about my community, how things work, and how I can participate in making things better. [0:11:07, 0:11:12]: Ocio Camacho? Aye, I got it right. [0:11:14, 0:11:15]: For you? [0:11:16, 0:11:29]: Yes, we just wanna I personally wanna thank each and every one of the people that got involved in being there. Um all the instructors, Mr Michael and you, thank you so much. You guys were there. Thank you for everything. It was really a wonderful experience. [0:11:31, 0:11:32]: Miss Katie Dunn. [0:11:33, 0:11:34]: All right. [0:11:35, 0:11:37]: Yeah. Okay. [0:11:37, 0:11:48]: Yeah. And um make a comment? That's fine. Um [0:11:49, 0:11:53]: Doctor Renita Hannah, a good doctor down here. [0:11:58, 0:12:00]: No, no, you're not so much more than that. [0:12:00, 0:12:18]: This has been an excellent uh opportunity and I will let more people know about it, uh, to do this because I learned a lot. Met everybody in the um whole Stockbridge um uh employees and um and department heads and the chief of the police and everything. It was just awesome. [0:12:18, 0:12:28]: And I feel like a Stockbridge employee. I'm out of tip for so much stuff. People think I'm part of the board or something. I am one of'em, but thank you. [0:12:30, 0:12:31]: Yeah. [0:12:31, 0:12:33]: Is okay. [0:12:35, 0:12:36]: Okay. [0:12:37, 0:12:38]: And [0:12:38, 0:12:43]: And this is Cobberts. Clobberitz? I I probably didn't pronounce it right and she's not here. Okay. [0:12:44, 0:12:45]: And [0:12:48, 0:12:49]: Oxabla Martin. [0:12:51, 0:12:52]: Okay. [0:12:53, 0:12:58]: Okay, and Nicholas Mercer. Neither. [0:12:58, 0:13:01]: Ah. [0:13:02, 0:13:09]: [794.3, 796.2]: Yeah you're not short on words either, though. [0:13:18, 0:13:25]: Everybody, I just wanted to say I am an employee of the city of Stockbridge and I love it here. It's a great culture. [0:13:26, 0:13:33]: But I didn't know what I didn't know until I went through the Citizens Academy. And that's why I think it's so important for everyone to [0:13:34, 0:13:43]: take the opportunity to go through. You learn so much about how everything works together and I'm actually very proud of our municipality. We have great water. [0:13:45, 0:13:50]: And I'm very impressed with everyone's presentation. So thank you and I hope you all give it a shot. [0:13:54, 0:13:56]: And I have here Judy Neal. [0:14:03, 0:14:17]: I just like to say always knowledge is power and we learned a lot and we really enjoyed meeting all the staff people. So it was a great opportunity and I too would be advocating for everyone to do it, to participate. [0:14:20, 0:14:27]: Now I I don't know you I have to ask you what is your name? [0:14:36, 0:14:40]: Your last but you're not the least, okay? Okay. For Victoria King here. [0:14:45, 0:15:03]: Um I just wanna say thank you for this opportunity to be able to learn about my city, my community and um all the things that we can do and to help this city get better. So thank you so much. [0:15:08, 0:15:15]: So if you don't mind going back here, please. [0:15:30, 0:15:36]: Uh [0:15:39, 0:15:45]: Yeah, well, uh [0:15:48, 0:16:08]: Well what about those five twice? [0:16:08, 0:16:28]: Is it a one if I think okay? [0:16:28, 0:16:29]: [991.3, 996.0]: Okay, if everyone can have their certificates open facing this way, of course. [0:16:40, 0:16:46]: Um I need kinda got you way out here. I need for y'all kinda bunch in. Yeah. [0:16:50, 0:16:53]: It was upside down, yeah. Okay. [0:16:53, 0:16:59]: All right, one three, one, two, three. One more, one, two, three. [0:17:01, 0:17:05]: That's good to me. Congratulations. [0:17:32, 0:17:38]: Ceremonial? Thank you very much. [0:17:39, 0:17:41]: That's the exact one. [0:17:45, 0:17:46]: Thank you. [0:17:51, 0:17:51]: Mm. [0:17:54, 0:17:58]: Next on item is uh old business. It says uh public hearing. [0:17:59, 0:18:08]: Resolution to approve the short term work program and capital improvement element annual update and adoption and amendment to the Henry County Comprehensive Plan. [0:18:09, 0:18:13]: This public hearing was actually held on the uh eighth of august two thousand sixteen. [0:18:14, 0:18:18]: Tonight's uh agenda item will be presented by Mr Michael Harris, the city manager. [0:18:18, 0:18:19]: Thank you, sir. [0:18:20, 0:18:30]: Evening Mayor, COTEM, Council members. Um as you recall, we've discussed this a couple of times and we've submitted we made our submittal, our initial submittal to ARC and DCA. [0:18:31, 0:18:42]: about a little over a month ago. I've been waiting back to get their comments back. Um they submitted comments back. We've made some revisions to the plan. And I can share with you the only revisions that were made were in regards to items [0:18:43, 0:19:03]: Seven, eight, and nine and it was nothing changed with the exception of the funding source. Um we were going to use impact fees for our GIS. However, after speaking with them, they had some some reservations about that. So we'll be utilizing our impact fee funds for the new water treatment facility and the new water main construction and utilize [0:19:03, 0:19:06]: PLOS four funds for some of the GIS mapping that we um [0:19:07, 0:19:16]: we've already identified so that was the only revision that took place. Once we submitted that back to the DCA, they approved our plan. [0:19:17, 0:19:37]: And as noted previously, you know, we need to have the plan approved and in place prior to October thirty first. So as soon as if if again if the council approves this plan tonight, we will move forward with the adoption resolution. That'll be sent to the ARC, Lana Regional Commission, who will in turn send it over to DCA and they'll have full record of our of our meeting compliance [0:19:37, 0:19:45]: for this re for this for this particular item um which will help us to make sure we retain our qualified local government status. [0:19:45, 0:19:59]: Um just as a note, there were no external comments received from any of the jurisdictions or agencies. So again we're pleased to have once again made our deadline as it relates to the submittal of our short term work program and capital improvement element. [0:19:59, 0:20:01]: I'd be happy to address any questions the Council may have. [0:20:03, 0:20:06]: Council, any questions at all in reference to his presentation? [0:20:10, 0:20:12]: Okay. Well I see none. [0:20:12, 0:20:13]: Okay. [0:20:14, 0:20:20]: So it says here public hearing, we have to have have to have another public hearing on this. Okay. Open them up for them. All right. [0:20:20, 0:20:22]: I'd like to open that up. [0:20:22, 0:20:23]: Um [0:20:23, 0:20:26]: Public hearing. Uh all four. [0:20:27, 0:20:40]: Anybody wants to make any comments in reference for this particular short term work program, the capital improvement annual update? And anybody for that wants to speak, I'll start on my very my left. Okay. Anyone over here at all? [0:20:41, 0:20:42]: But in the middle. [0:20:43, 0:20:48]: Only one individual on the very right. Okay, so if there are no commissaire, anybody against [0:20:48, 0:20:53]: um this capital work short term work program. Once again I'll start on my left. [0:20:55, 0:20:56]: In the middle. [0:20:58, 0:21:01]: Alright. Okay. So no comments one one way or the other? [0:21:02, 0:21:03]: That closes the public hearing? [0:21:04, 0:21:04]: Aspects, sir. [0:21:05, 0:21:07]: We're good, Mr. Attorney? [0:21:08, 0:21:10]: Yes, Mayor. [0:21:10, 0:21:23]: I have one question. On the short term work p program item number two, the swimming pool splash pat feasibility study, that uh the fifty thousand dollars comes from the general funds or is it coming out of splash funds? [0:21:26, 0:21:39]: I think we we had the f feasibility study identified from SPLOS funds. We can surely make that adjustment prior to sending it in. We weren't sure what that cost was gonna run over. It would likely be SPLOSS plus general fund. [0:21:39, 0:21:42]: We can add Splos as a funding source as well. [0:21:42, 0:21:49]: So do we need to change it here as plus last time? As as noted, okay. [0:21:49, 0:21:59]: All right, Mayor Pro Temp up go ahead. Any other questions? No, I'd just like to make a motion. Okay, go back. I'd like to make a motion to move forward to approve the resolution for the short term rote program. [0:22:00, 0:22:03]: Work program and capital improvement elements annual update. [0:22:04, 0:22:04]: Is there a second? [0:22:05, 0:22:05]: A second. [0:22:06, 0:22:07]: Okay, any further discussion? [0:22:08, 0:22:09]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:22:10, 0:22:12]: Thank you. [0:22:15, 0:22:20]: Uh next item is a resolution to amend the city code's code of conduct policy. [0:22:21, 0:22:21]: My clients, please. [0:22:22, 0:22:28]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor Pro Tem. Council, uh you have in your packet uh the revised uh code of conduct [0:22:28, 0:22:32]: Um as discussed from the last council meeting. [0:22:32, 0:22:39]: There were two virtually identical changes made. Uh the first is on the second page under four. [0:22:39, 0:22:41]: Um forty. [0:22:41, 0:22:44]: What was added was the clause. [0:22:44, 0:22:51]: And be clear stating that you are not speaking for the entire council if you have not been authorized by the entire council to do so. [0:22:51, 0:22:53]: So that's on the second page and then [0:22:54, 0:22:58]: on the second to the last page in that uh second paragraph [0:22:59, 0:23:00]: virtually the same. [0:23:00, 0:23:04]: language was added is the last sentence of that paragraph [0:23:05, 0:23:07]: Two titled Speak with One Voice. [0:23:08, 0:23:20]: And it states, in addition, when speaking on matters of public concern that do not involve actions of the uh council, if you offer your own opinion, be clear in stating that you are not speaking for the entire council if you have not been authorized to do so. [0:23:20, 0:23:26]: Those were the only changes. So it's ready for that problem. [0:23:26, 0:23:28]: Mayor Purchas. Yes, ma'am. Go right ahead. [0:23:28, 0:23:33]: I move that we approve the City of Stockbridge conduct as it's been revised. [0:23:34, 0:23:38]: Is there a second? Second. Okay, and for the discussion? Yes. Go right ahead, please. [0:23:38, 0:23:58]: Okay, I think we got some clarification uh for the public if you were at the last meeting pretty much. And I think what we really got some clarification on was that this uh does not infringe upon uh your First Amendment rights. It would guarantee any council member up here to be able to speak freely as the [0:23:58, 0:24:05]: they wish to do so. And uh in my in my particular case before joining the zoning advisory board [0:24:06, 0:24:23]: There was a statement that was put forward that I worked out with you uh and the city as well to state uh even on social media or any pages where you added a statement. Is that what we're moving forward with as well? Because that statement just generally says any statements that we post um [0:24:24, 0:24:39]: uh genuinely reflect our own opinions and I think that would probably be required of everybody at this point. Very similar. All you all this does is require that you preface comments [0:24:39, 0:24:44]: with a disclaimer saying you're speaking on your your own behalf and not necessarily on behalf of the city. [0:24:45, 0:25:05]: Right. So what I'm saying is that what we dr what we drilled down on at that point when we had this discussion previously was that each person was to put or I was at that time, which was to put a small statement saying uh on their communications that uh that this statement like [0:25:04, 0:25:20]: for your Facebook or whatever, just put a statement in that section. Um I in my case it was the about section to say what you uh these statements represent um what I'm about to say. So I would think that each person would be required to do that at this point. [0:25:21, 0:25:31]: D that yeah, that's what what's spelled out of this code of confidence. We'll have to go and put a statement on their on their on their pages then pretty much. Okay. Thank you. Though I'm uh I've been in compliance with that too. [0:25:31, 0:25:32]: [1532.5, 1533.8]: Yes, Mayor. [0:25:34, 0:25:43]: I'm a little concerned about that because on the Facebook pages, I don't know if people just go and read your about section. I'm thinking more so that [0:25:44, 0:25:47]: upon a statement, let's say um [0:25:47, 0:26:07]: you may voice your opinion. My my take on this is what I I thought the council's intent was. If a council member uh made a statement um and was very vocal about their opinion of other politics or or other people running for candidate positions or whatever, that they would put a disclaimer [0:26:07, 0:26:27]: stating that this is solely their own opinion within that statement. If they don't do that, then I mean you putting it in the about section, d no one's gonna read that but it's not just always up there, basically. So if you're writing something to that extent um and you're talking about the city of Stockbridge or talking [0:26:27, 0:26:30]: [1590.2, 1596.1]: You know, there should be something saying, This is my opinion, this is not the opinion of the city of Stockbridge. [0:26:37, 0:26:57]: So this would apply to any public statements if you're in the community speaking, um, you know presumably online. Every time you express your [0:26:57, 0:26:58]: Your own opinion. [0:26:58, 0:27:03]: on something you make it clear that you're not speaking on behalf of the whole council. Right. [0:27:05, 0:27:07]: Okay, any further comments? [0:27:07, 0:27:12]: We have a motion on the floor to accept the advised code of conduct. [0:27:12, 0:27:13]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:27:14, 0:27:16]: Okay it's unanimous. Thank you very much, sir. [0:27:17, 0:27:29]: Okay, item number four deals with a resolution to request approval of recommended approval of the Water Treatment Department RFP twenty one six oh seven-twenty two. [0:27:30, 0:27:43]: Automated water metering infrastructure project for an amount of one million seven hundred and eighteen uh sev one million seven seven hundred eighteen thousand two hundred and twenty eight dollars with the Ferguson Ener Enterprises incorporated. [0:27:43, 0:27:50]: DBA Ferguson Wild Waterworks, College Park, Georgia to provide implementation of the automated metering infrastructure. [0:27:51, 0:27:56]: AMI system upon execution of contract commencing november twenty sixteen at three. [0:27:57, 0:27:58]: Renewable options. [0:27:58, 0:28:02]: Presented by uh Mr. Harris and Don Riley. [0:28:03, 0:28:23]: Good evening again. Um this was an item that we previously discussed, um project that we've been excited about. We've been working on for over a year to to actually bring to fruition. Um a lot of lay work has gone into getting to this point. Um again as discussed in the previous in the previous meeting, um we've gone through and done [0:28:23, 0:28:40]: an exhaustive amount of research in other jurisdictions to see how their how their when they've made the transition from their standard meters that have to involve being actually physically manually read to going to make the transition to automated um automatically read meters. [0:28:41, 0:28:44]: sent out the RFP, we received [0:28:45, 0:29:05]: I'm three proposals back. Those all three of those firms were um proposals were analyzed, reviewed by a committee, all the firms were interviewed, and the recommendation from the um staff in the group that actually did the review was to come back with as stated Ferguson Waterworks in the amount of one point six [0:29:04, 0:29:05]: Yeah. [0:29:06, 0:29:21]: Um I I know there's been some comments that have been raised, especially in light of some of the other municipalities and jurisdictions out there in regards to the the the reliability of these meters, but you know that's something we really took into into a f into account as we were um researching this issue. [0:29:22, 0:29:35]: Um a couple of key points to note. Um you know any unusual usage pattern will be flagged in the system with an automatic alert to the system administrator and that's monitored on a twenty-four hour basis. [0:29:35, 0:29:55]: Um there's four systems of coverage and they will be available twenty four hours a day, field technician, system administrator, customer service, and the vendor themselves. So we think there are a number of layers of of oversight to help prevent issues that have happened in some other jurisdictions. And again, just to tout some of the advantages of this, certainly from a manpower standpoint [0:29:55, 0:30:15]: it's uh uh it's it's evident you know not having to have someone physically go out there and walk the site um and walk each each residence, but certainly from a um a water usage standpoint as well, this will give us the ability to be able to capture and identify leaks andor potential leaks, you know, far in advance of whether or having to wait till the bill comes out. [0:30:14, 0:30:34]: and see there's uh there's uh excessive usage. So you know we certainly feel comfortable and feel excited about the fact that you know the the revenues that'll be gained um and the losses that won't occur because of this new technology. And again these step in the right direction of an enhancing and goes follows back into suit with what's been stated by the council of being more [0:30:34, 0:30:42]: more proactive in our approach and being more efficient in how we operate, how we run into government. So myself, Mr. Riley, you want to add? [0:30:43, 0:30:48]: So any questions you may have, we're here to ask answer about the product or about the proce process. [0:30:48, 0:30:50]: Mayor Putin. Yes, Mayor. We'll write ahead, please. [0:30:50, 0:30:56]: I move that we requ um approve the water treatment department R F number two oh one six oh seven. [0:30:57, 0:31:04]: Well, with Ferguson Enterprises in the amount of one million seven hundred and eighteen thousand two hundred and twenty eight dollars. [0:31:05, 0:31:06]: For a second. [0:31:06, 0:31:07]: Okay. [0:31:07, 0:31:27]: Okay. Discussion. Yes. Correct, please. I just many of you were not here last time during the discussion. So as the residents understand, there were some there's been a lot of media talking, especially up in the DeKav County area where residents were getting thousand dollar bills and stuff like that. We wanted to make sure that we assure you that the [0:31:27, 0:31:30]: city is gonna be on your side. And we wanna make sure that [0:31:31, 0:31:51]: whatever we do that uh in my my opinion as well to be able to uh put forth that we will not be in a position where we're shedding people's water off falsely when the bill was not correct. So we're gonna uh it is my endeavor to us to go the extra step so that we can make sure that these bills are accurate and I think that uh [0:31:51, 0:32:11]: the city manager relayed to us last time that this system is very effective and that imagine this when you receive a call uh from uh the city uh water works department saying you probably have a leak because they they're they're is that sensitive that they know that your water usage has increased that much so that before [0:32:11, 0:32:21]: before the bill gets to two three hundred dollars they're calling you, being proactive, saying you probably need to check your usage is way up or you might even be able to get a notification [0:32:21, 0:32:41]: If you set the amount at seventy five dollars or forty five dollars or forty dollars, you can actually these systems now can actually get to the point where they might be able to give you a text message that say, You've reached your threshold now to kinda give you a warning. That's where we're trying to go to be best in class. This is a really a great system. [0:32:42, 0:32:43]: Okay. Any further comments? [0:32:44, 0:32:49]: Okay. We have a motion on the floor and uh second seconded. So all in favor of the motion please indicate. [0:32:50, 0:32:52]: Okay, Zunanus. Thank you very much. [0:32:54, 0:32:56]: New business, item number five. [0:32:57, 0:33:02]: Council consideration for resolution two statewide contract sewer treatment department. [0:33:03, 0:33:17]: SWC dash nine nine nine and SPD dash zero zero zero zero one oh zero one oh two excuse me dash zero zero one zero an amount of seventy two seventy two thousand four hundred fifty eight dollars with environmental products Atlanta, Georgia. [0:33:18, 0:33:19]: For the purchase of a one [0:33:20, 0:33:21]: Raptor Ramjet [0:33:22, 0:33:23]: Trailer Jetter. [0:33:23, 0:33:28]: This is a one time purchase. Mr. Harris, please. And Mr. Riley. [0:33:28, 0:33:41]: Thank you again. Um again this is another one what we discussed previously. Um this is a sewer jetter piece of equipment that'll be used by our wastewater um department to help clear lines, clean lines. Um [0:33:42, 0:34:00]: piece that's gone through a quite a bit of analysis and and Mr. Riley and Mr. Holtzinger are here as well to kinda speak on any specifics in regards to the um the system. But it should be noted that this we were able to utilize state contract um for the bid on this and there was actually I think a three percent discount that Donald was able to also um [0:34:00, 0:34:12]: uh utilize in this case. So again, piece of equipment has certainly will uh aid our wastewater department in addressing blockages, which is one of their primary issues that they have to deal with on a regular basis. [0:34:13, 0:34:14]: Um so again. [0:34:15, 0:34:29]: We're be able to utilize fund balance from our wastewater treatment uh wastewater department, utilize funds from that source. And I did, I was I was errant in not mentioning that the previous the water meters, that's gonna be from SPLOSS funds. I did want to make sure that was made publicly. [0:34:29, 0:34:36]: Um but again piece of equipment that we've gone through, we've um analyzed and um felt that this would be a [0:34:36, 0:34:48]: a tremendous aid in assisting our wastewater department in operating in a more efficient manner. So everything that we're bringing down and kinda keeping in the same vein as the water meters, you know, we are striving to [0:34:48, 0:34:54]: operate in as in in as effective and efficient manner as possible. And this is another piece of equipment that will do that. [0:34:54, 0:35:03]: Appreciate it. Any specific questions you have, I will certainly have to defer to Mr. Holds and your own. Come on up, Brad. Just in case. Yeah, take your time. [0:35:04, 0:35:06]: Help for any questions at all. [0:35:07, 0:35:10]: Okay. Well did you have anything you want to add to Brad at all? [0:35:12, 0:35:13]: Come on up, come to the mic, please. [0:35:16, 0:35:36]: This is a piece of equipment that we currently have, but the one we have is ten plus years old. Uh it help us be it helps us be proactive rather than reactive. Uh the piece of equipment we currently have now, we use it to clear like m Harris said, to clear lines, to clean lines, but right now we [0:35:36, 0:35:45]: we won't use it to clean lines because it's kinda at the end of its life and we're scared to use it for that, that it might go down, then we won't have it to [0:35:46, 0:35:48]: to clear a blockage if one comes up. [0:35:49, 0:35:52]: So this new piece of equipment is something that is needed. [0:35:52, 0:35:52]: And [0:35:53, 0:35:57]: Well probably good for ten plus years just like the one we have. All right. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. [0:35:58, 0:35:58]: [2159.2, 2163.8]: Questions and concerns. Okay, we've got a motion on the floor and a seconded. All in favor of the motion please indicate. [0:36:04, 0:36:07]: Okay. Is it now there? Thank you, gentlemen, I appreciate it. [0:36:08, 0:36:10]: Uh next item [0:36:12, 0:36:13]: I'm sorry, did we not make a motion? [0:36:14, 0:36:34]: Okay, I'm sorry. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, okay. Excuse me, excuse me. Give me straight. Um I'm on automatic pilot here. Okay. I need a motion. I'm sorry. I need a motion. Mayor Portel. Yes, ma'am I move that we approve the uh resolution for the statewide contract sewer treatment number SWC 999 SPG, um and the amount of [0:36:34, 0:36:38]: All right, so [0:36:38, 0:36:44]: Now is there any further discussion? All right. Okay, now we have motion and second. So all in favor, please indicate. All right. [0:36:44, 0:36:47]: All right, good. We now pass it in absolute. All right. [0:36:48, 0:36:49]: Yes, so keep me straight. [0:36:50, 0:36:55]: I'm surprised our attorney didn't catch Mr Williams. You didn't catch that, sir. [0:36:55, 0:36:55]: Yeah. [0:36:56, 0:37:07]: Number six, council consideration for a resolution to proclaim the week of november seventh, twenty sixteen through november thirteenth, two thousand sixteenth as kindness works passing on week. Mr Harris, please. [0:37:08, 0:37:10]: Once again that's I think that [0:37:10, 0:37:25]: Timing is is is wonderful in that you pass an amendment to our code of conduct in the same time we're doing a kindness resolution. So it's amazing how things all tie together. Okay. Um this is something that we've celebrated over the years. Um it's uh [0:37:25, 0:37:28]: Again, it's proclaiming the week of November seventh. [0:37:28, 0:37:31]: through November thirteenth as kindness works, pass it on. [0:37:31, 0:37:32]: And um [0:37:33, 0:37:53]: Again, this is something that's been started, has been going on long a a long tradition here in the city. Um it's typically um showcased by blue ribbons you'll see and pinwheels that will display out um as well as some signage along City Hall and City property. So something we certainly believe and um it's been fostered over the years, not just in city [0:37:53, 0:38:13]: Stockbridge, but throughout the um Henry County. I know um former attorney Buddy Welch and his family have been have been strong proponents of this, been strong advocates for this um proclamation as well. So we ask that the council um again, once again, make the declaration and proclaiming that week as Kindness Works Pass It On week. All right. I do need a [0:38:13, 0:38:14]: May I put it. [0:38:15, 0:38:17]: Go ahead, please. [0:38:20, 0:38:26]: Mayor Purto. I move that we approve the um kindness works, pass it on we on and [0:38:26, 0:38:30]: from November seventh, twenty sixteen through November thirteenth, twenty sixteen. [0:38:31, 0:38:31]: Second. [0:38:32, 0:38:33]: Okay, good deal. Any further discussion? [0:38:34, 0:38:35]: Okay, all favor please indicate. [0:38:36, 0:38:38]: All right, ladies. Great. [0:38:40, 0:38:45]: Item number seven, council consideration for approval of ordinance two thousand seventeen meeting schedule. [0:38:46, 0:39:06]: Vanessa Holliday, our city clerk, will present this. Before you is the proposed meeting schedule for 2017, both the regular council meeting and also the work session meetings. The change to the work session meetings uh is for two days. [0:39:06, 0:39:10]: Uh one because in October where you'll see at asterisk [0:39:11, 0:39:22]: is for um Halloween. If we if we had it on that day it would be Halloween. So it was moved up a week. And then for December it was moved up a week. [0:39:23, 0:39:25]: not to clash with the Christmas holiday. [0:39:25, 0:39:25]: Okay. [0:39:26, 0:39:30]: All right. Is there a motion to accept these proposed [0:39:32, 0:39:32]: Well [0:39:33, 0:39:39]: We we can have discussion now, we can have it after m a motion is made. We so is there a motion to accept uh [0:39:39, 0:39:45]: This particular proposed dates, please. Mayor Putin. Yes, ma'am. I move that we accept the um [0:39:46, 0:39:47]: Proposed uh [0:39:48, 0:39:52]: Ca meeting twenty seventeen meeting schedule presented by m [0:39:52, 0:39:54]: Vanessa Hillary. [0:39:54, 0:39:55]: But [0:39:55, 0:39:55]: Oh. [0:39:56, 0:39:56]: Okay. [0:39:57, 0:39:58]: Which second do you take? [0:39:58, 0:40:03]: Excuse me. Which second do you take? Okay. Now discussion. [0:40:04, 0:40:04]: Yes. [0:40:05, 0:40:25]: Go ahead. Go right ahead, please. I'm sorry. Yes, I mean I just I think we've had this discussion before, just like today, we have an awesome event going on outside here today. And instead of being outside being able to enjoy this time with the citizens, fellowship and the community community and getting to know the people out there, uh we we have this [0:40:25, 0:40:45]: is what the planning process is for. So we do plan on bringing back Tasty Tuesday. I believe there's a consensus on that. So basically we're going to have these conflicts reemerge. So maybe uh maybe we should look at that to see what other conflicts there are coming up throughout the year. [0:40:45, 0:40:51]: [2451.6, 2456.5]: You know, at eight o'clock we have this great event going on outside and we're we're [0:40:57, 0:41:17]: Uh we could have changed the meeting to a different date. Uh are there any other potential conflicts out there that exist like this and is there a possibility that we might be able to move the meeting to Monday or once we find out um what we're gonna do uh on the tas on the on the Tuesday or with any other events that mean. [0:41:16, 0:41:17]: [2478.6, 2488.5]: Councilman Alexander, I did take a look at the schedule but it was my understanding from what has been discussed regarding the food truck Tuesday was that it would not be every Tuesday. [0:41:29, 0:41:30]: In twenty seventeen [0:41:31, 0:41:42]: So the work session is one Tuesday out of the month. So I did take that into consideration. Okay. Thank you. Go right in, uh Mr. Blott. Um my take on that. [0:41:42, 0:41:43]: Is that uh [0:41:45, 0:41:54]: Because we can't adjust our schedule with a progressive council with events. I don't believe in doing that because what happens if we come up with another great idea [0:41:54, 0:41:56]: Do we adjust the schedule then? [0:41:56, 0:41:59]: Whether that in. We was elected to serve the people and I think [0:41:59, 0:42:01]: For me personally. [0:42:01, 0:42:03]: Sitting here serving the people. [0:42:03, 0:42:07]: of Stockbridge and and that's my take on it as a whole. [0:42:07, 0:42:10]: uh taste we we're here on Tuesday once a month. [0:42:12, 0:42:13]: And [0:42:14, 0:42:18]: I think we should I I believe that we should be able to take once a month out of the [0:42:18, 0:42:23]: our off our calendar still continue to serve the people regardless of what event we have going on. [0:42:23, 0:42:26]: Can you comment on this member? [0:42:26, 0:42:26]: Um [0:42:27, 0:42:27]: Um [0:42:28, 0:42:48]: Myself and Madame Clerk has this had this conversation as we learned in GMA, um you can always um change the schedule, just provide the public with a twenty four hour notice. Um I think it's twenty four or forty eight hour notice, and then that way we can make the changes as it comes. So I mean [0:42:48, 0:43:08]: We're definitely here to serve everyone, but we definitely want to make sure if we do make the change, if we change it from a Monday or or Tuesday to a Wednesday, then we can just let the public know um with well enough notice. But we were taught that in GMA that that can happen because it's up to the council. We just need to make the public aware in advance [0:43:08, 0:43:11]: So that way preparation can be made. So that to me [0:43:11, 0:43:23]: I would just say go go you know, play it as it comes up. You know, we know when it comes up, you know, that first of the month, then we can make the changes and that's what I just suggest. Okay. Any further discussion? [0:43:23, 0:43:30]: Can we have a motion on the floor to accept the proposed twenty seventeen meeting dates as they are published in front of you? [0:43:30, 0:43:33]: It's been uh seconded as well. All in favor of motion, please indicate? [0:43:35, 0:43:42]: Okay, I'll so I'll oppose. No one opposes was unanimous, right? May I have a may I have the vote again, please? [0:43:42, 0:43:47]: Excuse me. May I have the boat again, please? All all but may I approach and make sure we can adjust that. [0:43:48, 0:43:59]: We uh w I wanna make the make sure that we're talking about what's here. And this has nothing to do with T C Tuesdays. It was stated that as it's presented. That's what I said. As it's presented. [0:43:59, 0:44:00]: So [0:44:00, 0:44:07]: All in favor of the motion as as has been stated and as is what you see in front of you. Please indicate if you're in favor of this proposed meeting date. [0:44:08, 0:44:08]: Okay. [0:44:09, 0:44:12]: I see nanascists. Thank you. Thank you. [0:44:14, 0:44:27]: All right, uh what's next here? Okay, we'll d yeah, council consideration resolution informative ethics board we're gonna move we're gonna do that after the uh executive session. So what's next would be the council consideration for resolution [0:44:27, 0:44:31]: of soliciting for non profits, Mr Williams, please. [0:44:31, 0:44:38]: Yes, sir. You have in front of you a proposed ordinance that would provide a permitting process for nonprofits [0:44:39, 0:44:51]: This arose um from a situation a few weeks ago. We had a uh group uh soliciting in the right of way. Um they were asked to come get a permit, but [0:44:52, 0:44:59]: under our current ordinance, non profits are exempt from uh having to apply for a license. [0:45:00, 0:45:00]: Um [0:45:00, 0:45:09]: The reason for this is is twofold. One to have a mechanism so we know where people are out soliciting and two there's a safety component. [0:45:09, 0:45:13]: that I'll uh describe once I walk through the the ordinance. [0:45:13, 0:45:18]: Um but if if I may I'd like to just kinda highlight them the salient points. [0:45:18, 0:45:30]: Um the first thing is we require everybody who's soliciting in the city to get a permit, but for non profits it's proposed that the permit be issued without charge. [0:45:30, 0:45:31]: Um [0:45:31, 0:45:36]: then of course they go through the normal permitting process. [0:45:36, 0:45:41]: Um we provide in this um a couple of safety oriented features. One [0:45:41, 0:45:42]: Um [0:45:42, 0:45:43]: In the case of [0:45:44, 0:45:46]: persons under eighteen years of age. [0:45:47, 0:45:56]: No permit would be issued for a person under eighteen years of age if the non profit activities will occur within fifteen feet of a right of way. [0:45:57, 0:46:01]: The the reason for that is we don't want children in the middle of the road. [0:46:01, 0:46:03]: uh soliciting for funds. [0:46:04, 0:46:04]: Um [0:46:06, 0:46:12]: The the second piece is we have a and this is on the last page and on that subsection five. [0:46:12, 0:46:15]: We have a provision in here that says [0:46:15, 0:46:26]: if you are conducting uh non profit activities within fifteen feet of a public right of way, you're not allowed to do it in any way that would impede traffic. [0:46:26, 0:46:45]: uh nor are you allowed to be um in the travel lanes. You are allowed to walk up and down the side of the travel lane as as you see and and what comes to mind are are the the annual um boot drives that you see the fire department out there for or you you may see the [0:46:45, 0:46:52]: the uh the shriners out there, that sort of thing. That that would be acceptable as long as they are not impeding the flow of traffic. [0:46:53, 0:46:54]: Um but then [0:46:54, 0:46:59]: As it relates to that, you're not allowed to exchange or sell anything. [0:46:59, 0:47:02]: Um if you're in the right of way. So [0:47:03, 0:47:06]: Um no sales or gifts to vehicle occupants would be permitted. [0:47:07, 0:47:12]: All this is to prevent any delaying or slowing of traffic or impeding of traffic. [0:47:15, 0:47:16]: The [0:47:17, 0:47:20]: permit would allow solicitations between [0:47:21, 0:47:23]: Ten AM and seven PM. [0:47:23, 0:47:24]: And only [0:47:25, 0:47:26]: Uh and for any single [0:47:27, 0:47:27]: non profit. [0:47:28, 0:47:33]: not more than ten permits would be available for any given time. [0:47:33, 0:47:43]: Um so you couldn't have more than ten people out soliciting in one location. Again, the point of that is is sort of a safety type feature. Um [0:47:44, 0:47:47]: And then the last piece of that is [0:47:47, 0:48:07]: uh you would not allow more than five opportunities to solicit in the right of way or within the right of way in any given year. So the idea being you don't want this to be sort of a regular thing for any one organization to be out in in the right of way soliciting [0:48:08, 0:48:13]: Um and that's more of it's it's uh both a safety and an administrative type feature. [0:48:13, 0:48:22]: You know, all this is designed to kind of give the s the city some ability to make sure that we're not clogging the uh the roadways or [0:48:22, 0:48:26]: or the intersections with with non profit activities. [0:48:27, 0:48:34]: So that that is basically it. This is sort of a similar ordinance that you you see in a number of jurisdictions around the state. [0:48:35, 0:48:35]: Um [0:48:36, 0:48:46]: And again it comes up in the mind primarily for safety, making sure the kids aren't out there. And then aga again to make sure we don't have any major traffic issues. [0:48:47, 0:48:47]: Uh [0:48:49, 0:49:09]: Any questions from the council at this point? I think uh well I think this is probably a good idea because it's uh in response to what we've seen uh in our right of ways with uh kids literally in the middle of the road diving cars. I've seen it and I think I've registered this numerous times at uh [0:49:09, 0:49:10]: This will be [0:49:10, 0:49:13]: um an issue in terms of the safety. [0:49:13, 0:49:33]: And I think we're ver being very proactive here in doing that. And I I think what you just said was pretty much a lot of municipalities uh around us uh kinda do the same thing'cause I've seen kids out uh on Mount Zion Parkway and one hundred thirty eight or even North Henry Boulevard out in the middle of the traffic. I j I just would [0:49:33, 0:49:53]: wouldn't imagine how a a parent could d would do that, but I see it happen all the time. So I I'm I'm in support of this and I just want to hear you say you said that uh pretty much that this is something that's pretty standard. But at the same time just one other question that I might have about that as far as uh churches and uh organizations as far as [0:49:53, 0:50:13]: that um uh as far as their fundraising or anything like that, are they excluded or are they included in this too as well? They're any non profit organization, so we kinda treat'em all the same, whether it's a church or a school or or you know, sort of the traditional charities that you see, we treat them all the same. [0:50:13, 0:50:14]: Okay. Thank you. [0:50:16, 0:50:20]: Mm, Madam Clerk, you had a question? I I do. As far as um [0:50:21, 0:50:24]: If some of these groups don't if they don't come in and get a permit. [0:50:25, 0:50:27]: And they are out soliciting. [0:50:28, 0:50:30]: Code enforcement then, I guess would be the agent or [0:50:31, 0:50:32]: The speaker. [0:50:33, 0:50:38]: And that that's what happened the in the the instance I described before, code enforcement went out. [0:50:39, 0:50:45]: and issued a warning said they had to come in and apply for a permit, but there was no process for that. [0:50:45, 0:50:47]: Because they were non profit. [0:50:47, 0:50:49]: Labour attorney. [0:50:49, 0:50:50]: Yes ma'am, go line it. [0:50:50, 0:50:53]: Uh I have a c couple of questions. The first one [0:50:53, 0:50:54]: Is this for [0:50:55, 0:51:05]: nonprofits trying to sell in the right away or is it just nonprofits soliciting period? It it applies everywhere. There are specific provisions for [0:51:05, 0:51:14]: Within the right of way. So but still if if people wanted to go door to door or whatever, they would still have to get a permit. So I guess my concern is you have Girl Scout? [0:51:14, 0:51:34]: Because the number's ten. And you have Girl Scouts, Boy Scouts that might have these groups that may be at a store frontage that we need to take into consideration. You have band uh groups, cheerleading groups that might have more than ten or twelve that we need to take into consideration. And I think we just need to kind of look at that a little bit. [0:51:34, 0:51:54]: little bit more. Um even limiting them to selling on the street in the right of ways, I'm okay for telling them they can't be in the right of ways, period. Um, you know, because that means that you have twenty different or you can have twenty different organizations, they can come five times. That's a lot of times for different organizations to come out of there. That's a hundred times. [0:51:54, 0:52:05]: we've seen these organizations in the middle of our streets. So I'm okay me personally, um, for safety purposes. Um [0:52:06, 0:52:26]: to enhance safety and the quality of living, um, that we you know, we can eliminate them being in the right of ways altogether. But when I look at my children who are brownies and Girl Scouts and they have troops and they might have twelve or thirteen girls and they're doing a fundraiser in Walmart parking lot. [0:52:27, 0:52:30]: And even though they're spread out, they're at that one location. [0:52:30, 0:52:42]: then that they would be violating this rule. And so, you know, and then the Girl Scouts have their own system where they have to do certain things. So I think maybe we should look into that a little bit. Just a little bit. [0:52:43, 0:52:44]: Mayor Protein. [0:52:44, 0:52:48]: Sir, go write it, please. My understanding when reading this, this was for [0:52:48, 0:53:02]: Uh private property is private property is excluded from this right in one. [0:53:02, 0:53:05]: Um and we require [0:53:05, 0:53:08]: Some of the things I didn't go through but um are [0:53:09, 0:53:17]: very similar to what you have in our traditional solicitation ordinances. If you're gonna be on private property you have to have the permission of the property owner [0:53:17, 0:53:25]: and and you know, if if you're going door to door, if they say no solicitations you gotta leave, that kind of thing. That is in here and that's kind of straightforward stuff. [0:53:26, 0:53:27]: Um [0:53:27, 0:53:36]: So so the answer to your question, this would apply sort of city wide. It just has some specific carve outs for if you're gonna be in the right of way. These are the rules. [0:53:36, 0:53:41]: Um but but to answer the councilwoman's question, I mean we we can go back and look at [0:53:42, 0:53:45]: It a number limitation because it's you know ten is [0:53:45, 0:53:48]: admittedly just arbitrary, just [0:53:49, 0:54:00]: Um we can change that. We can do a carp out of you know, ten adults with some number of children would not have to be permitted, that kind of thing. We can adjust it accordingly. [0:54:02, 0:54:22]: Well let me can I ask this question then? What would be what would you like to see? I mean for ten's not but what number are you looking at? Well actually my concern isn't um a non profit soliciting more so than they are um you know if they got a permit, that's great. My concern is them soliciting in the [0:54:22, 0:54:29]: right aways at the street corners, at the street lights. Um if we could eliminate that and say no soliciting at the right of ways [0:54:29, 0:54:39]: then uh you know, a non profit organization soliciting and have a permit to s to to um solicit, I I don't have a per particular number. [0:54:39, 0:54:50]: Sure. Well I just in response to that, you know, as your attorney I would certainly support no solicitation in the right of way as well because of liability and all those sorts of things. [0:54:51, 0:54:54]: Um I'm just sort of acknowledging [0:54:55, 0:54:56]: what you sort of the [0:54:57, 0:55:01]: kind of history where you'll have organizations that will come to you and ask for this. [0:55:02, 0:55:09]: Um and when the fire department's allowed to do it but we don't allow right you know, someone else to do it then do you have an issue. So [0:55:10, 0:55:16]: this was meant to be kind of a compromise to allow for that for certain safety purposes. [0:55:17, 0:55:19]: Okay. Any further comments? [0:55:19, 0:55:23]: Yes. Go right here please. And and then under the initial reading [0:55:24, 0:55:44]: I'm I'm I think maybe if we're talking about doing this everywhere, it might be a little bit of government overreach versus the right of ways themselves. Because when you're talking about infringing upon private property rights and that sort of thing, that might be a little different. I think my issue that I brought forth dealt [0:55:44, 0:56:04]: with kids being in the right of way and and what have you. So I mean if it if the uh you know I the churches are out there they got signs out, you know, trying to attract somebody to the bake sale, you know what I mean? That kind of thing. Is that is that's their property. But the right of way might be a little different. So I might ask for [0:56:04, 0:56:19]: Well I'm happy to bring it back and get your input offline. All right. So otherwise on that note it seems like it might no need to make a motion here because we're not going to accept it at this point. Okay. Any more comments? All right. [0:56:19, 0:56:21]: Thank you sir. Thank you. Okay. [0:56:23, 0:56:27]: Okay, Adam number ten, El Mig Pavine. Mr. Harris, please. [0:56:30, 0:56:34]: Thank you again. Um again appreciate the council considering this on [0:56:35, 0:56:42]: relatively short notice and and the reason we asked is because again this is re somewhat time sensitive and wanted to make sure we try to get [0:56:42, 0:57:02]: these contracts, establish an up and going while we have decent weather. So that's the that's the principal goal before we want to bring it um at this time. Um similar what we've done in the past years, every year we've tried to make it a point to increase the amount of paving that we're doing. We're paving just under three miles this year. Um and we [0:57:02, 0:57:07]: We use our El Mig local maintenance improvement. [0:57:08, 0:57:28]: program, grant funds and as noted previously we've actually we our our our our allotment increased this past year from one hundred eighty two thousand to two hundred and thirty nine thousand. So we use those funds to leverage how much we can how much pavement we can do and we supplement that with our SPLOS funds. [0:57:28, 0:57:33]: uh money from Splas Four to utilize to be able to pay that much more so [0:57:34, 0:57:52]: One thing I did want to stress and and in discussing this was um people often ask how are the streets selected. If you recall back two years ago we went through and did a full assessment of all the streets in the city of Stockbridge, did a full grading assessment, had a firm come in, assessed all the condition of all of our streets, and we utilize that [0:57:52, 0:58:00]: document to determine which streets are selected for resurfacing. So we're going from the worst to the best. So we're taking the top [0:58:01, 0:58:01]: [3482.5, 3490.9]: The lowest graded roads are the ones that are selected. So that's what we did last year. Would be very successful. We're doing the exact same process this year. We do make some [0:58:11, 0:58:25]: um exceptions as relates to certain roads if they didn't quite if they're not quite at that that same within that tier that we're we're we're trying to reach in in in one particular year, if there's just a few roads b um below there. [0:58:25, 0:58:45]: we'll we'll take that into consideration if we're working if we're doing like two or three roads in a subdivision and there's another road in the subdivision that hadn't been done but need to be done about another year, we'll take that into account so we're not going through and doing a full mobilization this year and then having to go back and do another a whole full new mobilization for that one street the next year. So we went through and you know kind of [0:58:45, 0:58:47]: comprehensively looked at the plan to make sure we're [0:58:47, 0:59:01]: trying to be as efficient in the process as possible. So I just want to make sure for the for the general public's benefit that they understood that's what the process was. But in this case we we um w put the bids out and this and this was uh not a proposal but an invitation to bid. [0:59:02, 0:59:22]: um based on unit prices. That was prepared by our engineering consultant. We received five proposals. One was deemed to be non responsive and of those four um you'll see the lowest bid was from Blanc construction. And I want to note that no con no relation to Councilman Blanc. But yeah so Blanc construction [0:59:22, 0:59:35]: construction was the was the low bidder in this case and we've also our staff, um Mr. Riley and our engineering consultant reviewed all the bids that were received. We've also gone through and done um solicited [0:59:36, 0:59:50]: Um check references for blank section and the references we've received have all been very positive. I personally have worked with them in in in in a past life and have nothing but good experiences with them. So feel confident with their ability to be able to come in and do the work in a timely basis. So [0:59:50, 1:00:02]: Um asking for consideration from the council to allow us to move forward approving the bid for the seven hundred and four thousand three hundred and eighty dollars to Blanc construction to begin work on our resurfacing. [1:00:03, 1:00:04]: Annual resurfacing. [1:00:05, 1:00:17]: Okay, counsel. Now I yes, sir. Now going o over this process you did a good job of explaining to the citizens how we did grade the roads and everybody got a chance to see that. [1:00:18, 1:00:20]: But I didn't hear the part about [1:00:20, 1:00:36]: citizen involvement, which is if I'm uh wan if I'm sitting out here in the audience and I think my road probably should be on there, is there a list or is there some way that I can give feedback to say, okay, well I think my my my road should be on the list. [1:00:37, 1:00:57]: Yeah, you know, on occasion we will get requests from from residents and and the nice thing about the document is it's it's in it's empirically done. I mean so it's based on simply on numbers on a formula that they use, that GDOT also uses. Um so typically we can ask them, if they'll say, Hey, can you give me an idea of when our road will be done? Now we can go back and [1:00:57, 1:01:17]: can say, well, you know, we're averaging about three miles per year. So based on that, it looks like you may be um be able to resurfaced in two years or in three years. Well why is that? Well because we have search and such um roads that are in much worse condition. And usually when we start naming those roads like, yeah, yeah, that one is pretty bad. Yeah, that one is pretty bad. So [1:01:17, 1:01:37]: Now there are some roads um and Councilwoman Robinson and I have had this conversation that based on our service delivery strategy agreement, while some of it portions of it is are in the city of Stockbridge, portions are in Henry County as well, but based on our service delivery strategy and our that agreement, the the county is responsible for the maintenance of the road, East Atlanta Road being [1:01:37, 1:01:57]: that one that that segment that's in in the city. So we've been working with the county on those roads that that there is a great desire for us to move forward with. So we're asking them, they're kind of working with them to move it up on their list as well. So we've been having some of those conversations. But again those are roads that are um per our agreement are maintained by the county and they they have the same they've gone through the same [1:01:57, 1:02:17]: They've done assessments on their roads as well, and so they'll come back and say, Well, yeah, here's kind of where it sits. Like, yeah, we get that. However, we need it moved up, and this is the reason why. Yes, ma'am, go right ahead, please. I move that we approve Blount Construction Company Inc. in the amount of seven hundred and four thousand three hundred and eighty dollars and ninety cents for the resurfacing of the road. [1:02:17, 1:02:18]: There's a second. [1:02:19, 1:02:20]: There you go. [1:02:20, 1:02:21]: Mr. Blount. [1:02:21, 1:02:25]: Seconds that or the plu construction, no relationship. [1:02:25, 1:02:28]: Had to had to say that, right. Any further discussion? [1:02:29, 1:02:33]: All in favor please indicate. Okay, it's unanimous. Thank you. [1:02:36, 1:02:41]: Stockbridge business of excellent program, Councilman Blount, sir. [1:02:42, 1:02:45]: Yeah, I'm um I'm pretty excited about uh [1:02:45, 1:02:48]: Bringing this uh program to Stockbridge and [1:02:49, 1:03:03]: It's called the Stockbridge uh Business of Excellence program and what it's gonna do it's gonna it's a program that's gonna will di is designed to have businesses partner with uh with the city of Startbridge in a collaborative airport to elevate their awareness of the standard of uh [1:03:04, 1:03:08]: a business and how we want our business to operate in the city limits. [1:03:09, 1:03:29]: Um this is in the early stages. I talked to uh Miss Kira Braggs uh and'cause I want to collaborate with her pertaining to this and what she has in place for uh uh Main Street and I've talked to uh city uh manager uh on uh a couple of occasions, Mr. uh Harris. And we're gonna come together with a program [1:03:28, 1:03:48]: that we can and assistant that we can uh op uh offer to these businesses, whether it's in advertising, uh uh signage or something, we just want these businesses to collaborate with the city to say, hey, I'm willing to be a business of excellence with the city to stop bridging up my standards and raise the standards of how we operate. Many times I went up through the city and I went to businesses [1:03:48, 1:04:01]: And you know, you can tell if you you know, you're you're in a Q T versus in a sictoe. You can tell if you're in church's chicken versus uh uh a uh um [1:04:02, 1:04:03]: Chick fil A. [1:04:03, 1:04:23]: And we just want the business to collaborate with the city and say, Hey, I'm re ready to partner with the city and raise our standards of how we operate in the city. It's nothing forced upon the businesses, is if you want to be a part of it or not, but in that because who who d who wouldn't want free advertisement? Who wouldn't want to say, Hey, I'm a part of something that's that's uh that's moving the city forward? So [1:04:23, 1:04:34]: So this is a program that I'm excited about and I'm uh working uh with the uh w with the main street like I said and we're putting the components together to make this uh make this work for the city of Stockbridge. [1:04:35, 1:04:38]: Thank you. Anybody have any questions or concerns? [1:04:39, 1:04:49]: Okay I'm I'm I'm a little confused. Uh we um obviously this sounds like a great idea, but I guess I don't have anything in my book. [1:04:49, 1:04:51]: on it or is there [1:04:51, 1:04:57]: Some more to come that we should expect there,'cause I I don't know, was there supposed to be something in here on that? [1:04:57, 1:05:02]: No, no, you you don't Mr. Alexander, you don't have anything in your book because [1:05:02, 1:05:06]: uh many times in in on this council which has been unique [1:05:06, 1:05:26]: is that we have to let our ideas come forward and then come to fruition. Uh and so that's that's what I'm trying to do now is bring this idea forward so everyone will know what I'm doing and I and I'm and I want to see it come to fruition. That's why you don't see it in the uh book at this time because as I just told you it it is. It is in a stage and I I think I [1:05:26, 1:05:41]: I spoken with you one time before that, you know, when we are putting something together, w if I can't bring you the whole package I'm not gonna bring you something partially because I think every plan to success is to h have a whole plan together and that's what I'm gonna bring together for the city to see. [1:05:43, 1:05:49]: Okay, any further comments or questions? Well I have a I I have a question, I guess. Um [1:05:49, 1:05:51]: Michael, uh I guess [1:05:51, 1:06:11]: Since I don't know all of it, I just wanna know when you're saying business of excellence because that tied in with our beautification, how we you know we were talking about putting signs with the business with the you know, that's up to par. So I don't know if yours is just business involvement or'cause I don't want it to be clashing what, something that we're already [1:06:11, 1:06:20]: already'cause that's what we're doing for signs in there, you know, for the beautification to g award them for being up to par. [1:06:20, 1:06:38]: This this this works in collaboration with anything we're gonna be doing. It it it's not just the outside beautifications, it's the way you handle your customers. It's the way you produce your business to the customers, it's the way you operate as a business. Take it up to another level because trust me with the with the h uh uh [1:06:39, 1:06:47]: What what we're doing in this city, you're gonna have to up your game in the city of Stockbridge if you wanna be operating the city of Stockbridge because competition is coming. [1:06:49, 1:06:50]: [4011.5, 4031.5]: One second. Go right here, sir. So so I understand, is there gonna be like a this is like a a reward and recognition program? Is that w where we're going toward or is that what we're trying to go toward? Recognition and reward for them, like a business of excellence, a month sign or something like that out above their business, or it to give you well where we're at right now, uh [1:07:11, 1:07:20]: uh Councilman Alexander, if you're gonna be a part of the citiz uh it it's like when you go buy an a used car. This used car can look just like that used car. [1:07:21, 1:07:28]: But on this used car they say it's a certified used car. So what makes it different? And what makes it different is that people have paid attention to detail. [1:07:28, 1:07:48]: And they've made it and they and they put that sign on it to say, Hey, this car is worth buying although they're identical. You can have businesses here in Stockbridge that say, Hey, I wanna be a part of that program. But what does that entail? That entail what we're putting together to say, hey, if you're gonna be a part of the business of excellence in Stockbridge, those components that we're putting together is gonna be an agreement and a collaborative effort to bring [1:07:48, 1:08:07]: bringing those businesses together to say, hey, this is how we're gonna operate. How that's gonna look, that's what I'm gonna bring forward. Those are the things that we're working on right now to say to stand up a stock bridge or working a business. Too many times I've I've went in through the throughout the city, whether it's fast food or whether it's a city uh whether it's uh uh dying in [1:08:08, 1:08:15]: And some of the times we just see that that that we're are we those business are taking the citizens for granted. [1:08:15, 1:08:34]: So we have to say we we're watching you and w and if you wanna be a part of this, then up your standard of how you operate. Become a part of it. We're not forcing any business to be a part of it, but it means something if you are to that business and to that advertising to say, Hey, I see the vision of Stockbridge, I see where the city's going. I wanna be a part of that. [1:08:35, 1:08:36]: And that's what it's all about. [1:08:36, 1:08:39]: Council Councilwoman uh Gantt. [1:08:39, 1:08:59]: Uh Councilman Blount, I just want you to know that I think that's an excellent idea um to hold the businesses accountable to the type of the quality of life and living that we want here in Stockbridge. And that doesn't include that includes although I I get what you're saying, it includes facades and the way the bill [1:08:59, 1:09:18]: what the business looks on the outside. But it also looks what the way it's presented in the inside as well. And whether that's updating and and the customer service and the experience in general. So whatever you do, I look forward to reading that policy and if there's anything I can do to help I would love to participate. [1:09:19, 1:09:24]: Mayor Potiam? Yes, Mayor Burrelly, please. That is a wonderful idea. Thank you, Councilwoman Gantt. [1:09:24, 1:09:31]: It would be awesome if we can collaborate so that way we can put this together as one. That that would be awesome. [1:09:32, 1:09:34]: Panie Przewodniczący. [1:09:34, 1:09:49]: Okay. So this is actually for discussion, some more to come on this particular topic and subject as you get some data and information together for the council. Okay. Good deal. On that note, item number eleven is Stockbridge Youth Advisory Council. This also says you, Councilman Blount. [1:09:49, 1:09:52]: Um we're s seeking um [1:09:52, 1:09:55]: Uh spearheaded by Council uh woman uh [1:09:56, 1:09:59]: Councilwoman Robertson and we're we're seeking uh [1:09:59, 1:10:04]: I think uh Councilman uh Councilman Alexander and Councilwoman Robinson we're seeking to [1:10:05, 1:10:08]: start a youth council here in uh [1:10:09, 1:10:11]: in the city of Stockbridge. [1:10:11, 1:10:12]: And uh [1:10:13, 1:10:21]: One of the things that I wanted to bring forward is about a youth council, uh about the uh youth advisory is that we're seeking a youth advisory for that uh [1:10:22, 1:10:27]: um board and uh councilwoman Robertson and I went to uh [1:10:27, 1:10:30]: a uh c youth conference down in Macon, Georgia. [1:10:31, 1:10:32]: And I [1:10:33, 1:10:37]: my recommendations as the uh community relations committee uh chair [1:10:38, 1:10:55]: If that's the where everyone agreed for it to go through is before we move on it, first thing I would like to see is uh uh a package that's showing who's gonna manage the program uh here at the city, who's gonna actually manage it at the city uh level here in in the city of Startbridge with the uh [1:10:55, 1:10:59]: Um and what is our actual focus because we have different [1:11:00, 1:11:20]: Uh different organizations have started youth programs in different ways, whether it's G Caps or Youth Council or Youth Advisories. Uh uh when we talk about Dorothy County, uh they started youth advisory but they was dealing with middle schools. Uh some youth advisory boards they deal with uh ninth of uh tenth. [1:11:19, 1:11:24]: through uh twelfth grade. So it's different components and different ways of starting it. So [1:11:24, 1:11:44]: I would like for that to come forward and I and and how uh realistic how can we facilitate this uh this with uh this program, how can we facilitate it? Uh I think that we need to get with our city manager and see what city employees are gonna be are gonna buy into the that that's gonna buy you have to be bought into the program. [1:11:44, 1:11:54]: Meaning that when you started this U programme one thing that Councilwoman Robinson and I learned is that it's gonna take a lot of time and efforts. So what part of the city [1:11:54, 1:12:02]: uh um employees uh that we're gonna be able to have to uh help facilitate this and uh are we willing to uh [1:12:02, 1:12:04]: uh move uh [1:12:05, 1:12:09]: Uh we're willing to move in a way that we're we have a plan in place. Um [1:12:10, 1:12:15]: There's nothing tangible that we have to say how we're going to [1:12:16, 1:12:21]: do our youth advisory board. And that's what I want to see [1:12:21, 1:12:41]: Give me something to show on how we're gonna do it. I know how they they can be started, I know how they could be operated, I know different facets of it because we learnt that. But I know that they want to put our signature on our youth council, uh slash youth advisor blower slash youth council. So I like to know how we're gonna do it because if you don't have those plans and [1:12:41, 1:12:43]: in place what's gonna happen is [1:12:44, 1:13:04]: is that if you don't have the curriculum in place for the year for that, then you're gonna forever have a program that you do not know how you're gonna fund this and fund that without having a plan in place. I'm for doing whatever we can do for the youth, but for its funding and for us having a plan, you don't bring youth in [1:13:04, 1:13:18]: and then get a program. You have a program and then you bring the youth. And so that's and this is not a belittlement of them, trust me, I know that they're working hard on it. It's just right now I'm saying that this is what I'm seeing on a youth commit uh uh public relations committee uh [1:13:18, 1:13:20]: uh Chairman. Um [1:13:21, 1:13:23]: Everything we do have to be budgeted. [1:13:24, 1:13:44]: It has to be budgeted and I don't want to see us going throughout the year amending budgets for any program, whether it's a youth program or any program that we're doing. I don't want us to go out through the year amending budgets for something we haven't planned for. And that's all I'm bringing it f that's why I'm bringing this forward now to say we need to have make sure we have a plan. [1:13:44, 1:13:46]: Yeah. [1:13:48, 1:13:49]: I thank you. [1:13:50, 1:13:51]: Well may Commissar go right here, please. [1:13:52, 1:14:12]: Well, I think uh ladies and gentlemen, I think that um one of the priorities in the city for forever and a day has to bring it bring bring quality services to our youth. Um I believe one hundred percent in the direction of the Georgia Municipal Association and the amount of [1:14:12, 1:14:32]: work that my colleague uh councilwoman Neat Robinson has put into this program. Uh she and I uh talked about it on numerous occasions about exactly what we wanted to do for our youth. Uh Councilman Councilman Blount and uh Councilwoman Robinson attended GMA training so we will understand that. Um [1:14:31, 1:14:51]: I'm calling on the council to fund this program at the level that we were supposed to fund it at at ten thousand dollars originally as we go through this budget process because we can do a lot of things. We can talk about what we want to do for our youth or we can put our money where our mouth is and we can develop a great perspective. [1:14:51, 1:15:07]: program which Miss Robinson is fully uh in support of. Uh the time is far past due for us to move forward. We're doing something great for our youth. And I'll turn it over to my colleague Miss Robinson to fill in all of the details because they're very detailed. [1:15:07, 1:15:15]: Thank you for that. Ms. Robs, go right ahead. Um yes, it's it's it's a lot of work. [1:15:15, 1:15:17]: But you have to [1:15:18, 1:15:27]: You have to plan and you have to reach out to people, you have to get out in the community and you have to talk with them to see who is ready to help. [1:15:28, 1:15:48]: so we can establish our youth council. I have provided each council um and Mayor Pro Tem showing with the Stockbridge High School PTO president. He has outlined um if if he's stating that he's willing and able to take the lead. If so, um he's familiar with a lot of the other programs that are held [1:15:48, 1:15:50]: [4550.6, 4555.7]: And again he has a lot of parents, um some parents that are part of the C D C. [1:15:55, 1:16:15]: Um he has outlined stating how he can start being a part of the youth advisory board by developing um develop a draft charter um which includes the bylaws that I think our myself, um our executive assistant and our attorney have already started working on. It's probably been over a month or so now that we [1:16:15, 1:16:35]: do have a a layout and also um created plan create planned events, mentoring, volunteering, leadership, providing um shadowing and shadowing and when I was saying that here at City Hall we have staff that I kinda reached out to and just said, you know, if we need you, can you [1:16:35, 1:16:55]: help you know not saying fully eight hour shift but something just your expertise to assist a young person I received positive feedback from that um so I'm you know thank you for that as well for the staff. Also he stated on here to set projected first year membership number to outline how many schools [1:16:55, 1:17:15]: scholars that we want to have. I mentioned earlier to uh my colleagues that we wanted to do fifteen um and then start the application process. However, we wanted to start the application process first for the advisory board because we want to set that up in place so that way they can establish again the bylaws, get with the attorney [1:17:15, 1:17:17]: [4637.5, 4644.8]: So that way we can sit down and say what we're gonna do based on the documents or bylaws that we've already started with. [1:17:25, 1:17:45]: um the partnerships with the schools we've already started that. So a lot I've reached out to the Dutchtown principal, the Eagles Landing principal, Stockbridge High School principal. I've reached out, um I have someone at Union Grove. These are our four schools. Um we have a coach at Union Grove who is um [1:17:45, 1:17:53]: um uh speaker for the youth. He's willing to participate and assist us. I also um handed counsel [1:17:53, 1:18:13]: a letter from a community leader who um in their church they're willing to um come in and assist. They have a computer lab there at their church, so they're willing to open that up. They're just waiting. So I did provide that. And also we have a business leader who is out in the community [1:18:13, 1:18:33]: community that I've also provided to counsel stating that with music he's willing to assist our young people if they want to get into music. Um so we have others we have other bus restaurants owners that I've spoken with. So it's just a matter of us sitting down um with our attorney, go ahead and establishing [1:18:33, 1:18:53]: a letter so that way we can get it out to those who are willing and ready to be a part of the advisory team so that way we can move forward. And when we started this early on this year, we said we were going to have it done by April. We're almost into November. So a lot of the legwork has been done. We just have to sit down and [1:18:53, 1:18:55]: And just so people will know [1:18:55, 1:19:15]: I have been the liaison for Stockbridge High School and a youth program for numerous years. So being a liaison means it's not a eight hour shift. It's just a matter of being that middle person to be the contact to counsel or and the school. So it it doesn't entail a lot of work and I can stand here [1:19:15, 1:19:35]: here and sit here and tell you I'm not overwhelmed. It's it's something that you need someone to be that liaison so that when counsel, as we learned in the um GMA training, we have to remove ourselves so it won't be political. Because once you start something with the young people, it cannot be political. [1:19:35, 1:19:47]: They have to continue on and once they start they're ready. And we also learn that it goes from what we discussed would be tenth, eleventh, and twelfth grade um that we're willing to do. [1:19:47, 1:20:07]: And we also have some that are sitting here know that we have leaf um youth leadership, Henry. A lot of the kids that once they complete that program, they don't have anything to do. So they're coming up to us now and a lot of parents are saying what what is Stockbridge gonna offer so that way my child will be able to be out in their own community and that's what we're [1:20:07, 1:20:27]: trying to do is bring our kids back to their own community and then outside of that once we establish that because so many of the students go to school with each other but they don't live in the city limits. So some kids may go to Woodland but they went to middle school together and when they went to Woodland they [1:20:27, 1:20:47]: don't live in our city limits, so now they'll be a part of McDonough, part of their youth council. So what I stated was in McDonough, Hampton and Locus Grove, we're gonna collaborate to come together as one once we get everything established so that way our kids could be together, do different things together. And when we're [1:20:47, 1:20:52]: we're talking about our budget, my main concern is we have food trucks [1:20:52, 1:21:12]: We have concerts. We can allow our students to take one of those events and call it their own. We already have it in our budget, so that way we're not spending additional funds. We have other leadership programs, even just say we went to Make and B um Make and Bib for the Youth Council. We can still do that. [1:21:12, 1:21:32]: that with our kids, but it has to be in the budget. And we have to understand we have to have chaperones which are gonna be the advisory team. Plus they'll need parent volunteers. So when we're stating we're gonna put everything in for our youth, to me that should be our focus going in and not like Councilman Blount said [1:21:32, 1:21:51]: changing, amending the budget when we're giving one opportunity for one group twenty, twenty five thousand dollars, but then we're limiting our youth with just a small amount of five thousand dollars when we can do better. Because that's basically what we're talking about is our youth and that's why I stand on that. [1:21:51, 1:21:52]: May approach you. [1:21:53, 1:21:56]: One second, please. Councilmember McGann. [1:21:56, 1:22:02]: Um thank you, Mayor Pratim. I think that the entire council agrees [1:22:02, 1:22:22]: on the majority of all issues that we want great quality of living, we want um certain things to start getting done and we also want to do things for our youth. And I think that's across the board. Um I think I don't know based off of what's been said tonight where we're [1:22:22, 1:22:40]: going with our youth council. I'm not against the youth council. I think that um if we you know do the ten thousand dollar budget or whatever the budget may be, um once we sit down and discuss it, but right now I'm getting a whole broad range of topics and [1:22:40, 1:23:00]: I it sounds like we need to do some discussion with amongst ourselves on what this youth council's gonna look like, whether it's fifteen, whether it's ten, and what they'll be doing and what's the objective of the youth youth council in general. Because I heard music group, I heard um computer [1:23:00, 1:23:12]: lab someone offers, there's certain different components and I I guess my concern is is us getting a little bit more organized with it and then bringing it back and saying this is how we're gonna do it. [1:23:14, 1:23:20]: Mayor Pro Tem this this is exactly what I'm trying to present right now. [1:23:20, 1:23:23]: You have all these different components. [1:23:24, 1:23:30]: You have all these different components within themselves they are good ideas. I'm not knocking that. [1:23:31, 1:23:35]: But what is the plan for the city of Stockbridge with all of these ideas? [1:23:36, 1:23:50]: With all of these ideas, you can com you can compare this to okay, food trucks, you can compare it to whatever. I'm not sitting here trying to put our ch kids last. I'm sitting here saying I want a plan that's put in place to succeed. [1:23:50, 1:23:54]: And when we talk about all these different components, what does that look like? [1:23:55, 1:24:05]: Because you can't sit here and continue to talk we can say all these components, but what does it look like for the city of Stockbridge? What is that we can contangibly hold up and say [1:24:05, 1:24:20]: Because we was told that when we talk about GMA which students for Georgia Municipal Association, these are trainings that we go by. And that training, first of all, two things that told us that it's gonna take a lot of work and one of the things that really should resonate with us is that you gotta have a plan. [1:24:21, 1:24:28]: You gotta have a plan for these kids. You gotta have a curriculum. You gotta say from this month to that month what you're doing. [1:24:29, 1:24:49]: Now you can do that once you get the advisory board on board, but prior to that, we as a council have to look at this, look at what plan you have in place and say, Okay, we we agree with this. Go ahead and get your advisory board, tweak it how you have to tweak it, do what you have to do. But we can't sit here and say all of these different components and say now because [1:24:49, 1:24:55]: we d want a plan in place that I I'm on board with having a youth advisory board. [1:24:55, 1:24:56]: But what does it look like? [1:24:57, 1:25:02]: What does that look like? What does that look like? [1:25:04, 1:25:05]: I think [1:25:05, 1:25:07]: You want to go this way? Okay. No problem. [1:25:08, 1:25:15]: See, ladies and gentlemen, we can talk about this for a long time, but this is what it really comes down to. [1:25:16, 1:25:19]: If you have twenty five thousand dollars for your food trucks [1:25:19, 1:25:23]: And the budget for the youth council was ten thousand and it was slashed to five. [1:25:24, 1:25:27]: You can say that you're putting the kids first all that you want to. [1:25:28, 1:25:30]: But that's not where you're putting your money at. [1:25:30, 1:25:32]: And that's what it really comes down to. [1:25:33, 1:25:34]: I just heard [1:25:34, 1:25:50]: Um it said up here on this dais that we're gonna bring everything together on the business of excellent program. We didn't have very many details on that as well. But this program here, the details are already laid out. We don't have to reinvent the wheel. [1:25:50, 1:25:57]: Councilman Blount and Miss Robinson went to GMA training. That GMA training, they written a book on it. [1:25:57, 1:26:07]: And you know what, whatever we do for our students, we can tailor it, but tonight our endeavor is to move forward with the youth advisory board. [1:26:07, 1:26:20]: Just like you said earlier, Mr Blount, we're not trying to do all of this ourselves. We are professionals in our community, at the different high schools, the counselors who are willing to help us. We're gonna let them [1:26:20, 1:26:40]: put the program together. But first of all, right now what we what you're proposing that we do is that we uh we put the we we we uh don't put the board out there yet and we put the program together. I want the professionals to put the program together. And I think that's what Miss Robinson has endeavored to do is that she's reached out to all of the schools and you [1:26:40, 1:26:48]: youths around here and got experts at the table who have buy in in the community. Is that what you meant, Miss Rose? [1:26:49, 1:27:08]: Well you say. What what we got here? We're only supposed to talk twice on these on this note and I haven't said anything yet, so allow me to get my my two cents in for whatever it may be worth. First of all, ladies and gentlemen, when it comes to the budget amount, we're gonna talk about these specific budget issues here shortly. Uh as um [1:27:09, 1:27:29]: Our uh city manager informed me as in our current position I have to present you all uh a balanced budget, if I understand it's right by the first of November. So this this ordeal about how much money what what who's getting what, I gotta sit down and I gotta present that to you and we'll have more discussion about that across the board for everything. [1:27:28, 1:27:48]: of course we'll have it with the public as well. Number two wanna mention is that the resolution that's before you actually talks about uh is is for the people to adults to be part of the youth council advisory board, those individuals. But what it doesn't say how many are we looking for, it doesn't say that, but it does say that's what is before you for a vote tonight. [1:27:48, 1:27:52]: Okay. And the funding issue will come later, very quickly, within the next week. [1:27:53, 1:27:57]: Okay, on the funding issue and all those things to deal with the budget for two thousand seventeen. [1:27:58, 1:28:12]: But if what I understand though is that uh if if we approve the youth council advisory board, those members, wh however how many members we can get,'cause it doesn't say a specific number, those individuals will be tagged with the development of the program. [1:28:12, 1:28:16]: All right, that's what I understand. Okay, and that aspect. [1:28:16, 1:28:36]: And then somehow there may be some oversight or liaison from the council excuse me, not necessarily a council member, but from the city staff is what I'm thinking is supposed to happen. A liaison per se to work with that youth council. And as we go down this road, once this passes, if that's the case, then we'll have obviously further conversation and discussion about [1:28:36, 1:28:37]: about this issue. [1:28:37, 1:28:38]: Now [1:28:38, 1:28:47]: Really it should be two two two times unless we we alter that. Is anything and I think you gentlemen have gone twice already. Anyone else need to say anything down here? [1:28:47, 1:28:50]: [5330.2, 5331.5]: Okay. [1:28:51, 1:28:58]: When we do an advisory council or any kind of council board we would have more a little bit more detailed information on how we would handle [1:28:58, 1:29:01]: our application process in in this sense [1:29:01, 1:29:02]: We're dealing with youth. [1:29:03, 1:29:11]: So uh you know, you're you're dealing with some liability, you're dealing with outside people and you are also dealing with um [1:29:13, 1:29:16]: People who did not go to the training. The [1:29:16, 1:29:18]: our colleagues went too. [1:29:19, 1:29:35]: And so there was a reason why they invited those count the municipalities to that training is because they started up like in McDonough Cam, she started up the youth program and then thereafter, you know, you have other people helping. [1:29:35, 1:29:36]: But [1:29:37, 1:29:50]: they they've organized this, they got a curriculum together and then the advisory council maybe tweaked or helped with the events and and different things. So my concern is looking a little bit more into the process [1:29:51, 1:29:59]: and what that entails and what we're who we're looking for because there uh uh um Councilman Robinson did hand us out [1:30:00, 1:30:15]: um a couple of pages here but you know uh we don't know that particular person's qualifications. Not saying that is not a good person. You just you don't know different things. And right now I'm saying that the information that we have [1:30:15, 1:30:21]: is is broad and we probably need to get a little bit more information, a little be a little bit more detailed. [1:30:21, 1:30:37]: Um Mr. Williams. It's only my simple assumption that um any adults that will be part of this would have to go through or a background check or something like that. Do we have to do that? [1:30:38, 1:30:42]: Okay. And that's typically something that the clerk would conduct, is that correct? [1:30:43, 1:30:44]: I submit it to the court. [1:30:44, 1:30:45]: Okay. [1:30:46, 1:30:56]: Um all right. So that would have to be done. So even if we selected anybody, before they can they before they do anything with any children, we'll have to submit their names to the court and and make sure that comes back [1:30:56, 1:31:00]: positive per se. Yes, sir. In that aspect. Okay. [1:31:00, 1:31:03]: All right, thank you. Yes ma'am. I do. [1:31:04, 1:31:07]: Again, some may say that this hasn't been uh [1:31:08, 1:31:21]: a conversation. As I stated, we're very organized because for months now I've spoken with the attorney. Um we're very well aware of what it's gonna take. Um councilwoman Gantt you've been out [1:31:22, 1:31:22]: Um so [1:31:23, 1:31:24]: No [1:31:24, 1:31:33]: you know, thing to you but we've already had these conversations. So the thing is what I want us to do is we need to communicate better. [1:31:34, 1:31:54]: because the information is out there. Um we're stating that we're just now receiving this information, but the previous time we had a conversation we continue to say we don't have anything. So then when I bring information to show that people are willing and ready to work this [1:31:54, 1:32:10]: Then we say we don't know anything about these people but the work has been done to show you that that we do have people out there that are ready to be involved in our community but we just can't continue to say we need to wait. [1:32:10, 1:32:12]: We've been waiting since April. [1:32:13, 1:32:25]: And we sat down as a council at our retreat and we stated that well excuse me, in January that we were gonna do this, have this done by April. And it didn't happen. So here we are again [1:32:26, 1:32:27]: We're in October. [1:32:28, 1:32:48]: So I don't understand what else you all want when I'm trying to show you that we have people that are ready to fill out the application so that way we can begin the process. We learned in GMA, um Councilman Blount, he was there the first day, the second day he was [1:32:47, 1:32:54]: wasn't there, but it showed the students interacting, showed them doing the classes. [1:32:54, 1:32:59]: All of that was shown to show you exactly what it entails. [1:33:00, 1:33:02]: So th the event was for two days. [1:33:04, 1:33:07]: So I don't know w uh uh we just have to communicate better. [1:33:07, 1:33:16]: Because we have to move forward for the young people. Ladies and gentlemen, hold on a second. Okay, everybody spoke at least twice, all right. [1:33:16, 1:33:33]: The resolution before you deals with uh directing the staff to advertise and receive application for persons to serve on the as the uh youth council advisory board, these are adults that you're seeking out. Okay? That is the actual document before you. I'm gonna ask the council for a motion to um [1:33:34, 1:33:37]: I'll do that. To accept this resolution. [1:33:37, 1:33:40]: I'll make a motion to approve [1:33:41, 1:33:52]: The resolution directing staff to advertise and receive applications for persons to serve on the Youth Advisory Council board which is before us tonight. Sir Second. [1:33:52, 1:34:02]: Now and I don't actually out I'm supposed to ask for discussion. We already really discussed this. All right. We can dis I'll I'll I tell you what. We'll go one more round. [1:34:02, 1:34:05]: One more round if need be. All right, go ahead, Mr. Blount. [1:34:05, 1:34:08]: I want to discuss because I want to make it clear to everyone here [1:34:08, 1:34:10]: And everyone that is watching. [1:34:11, 1:34:14]: The GMA had two days of training. [1:34:15, 1:34:18]: The first day gave us all the details we needed to know. [1:34:19, 1:34:24]: as peop as whoever was gonna start the program gave us all the details. [1:34:25, 1:34:28]: The second day gave us it was for the students. [1:34:29, 1:34:36]: And commit uh uh Councilwoman Gantt I'm say Councilwoman Robinson elected to stay for the second day. [1:34:37, 1:34:39]: When we was active GMAs [1:34:41, 1:34:44]: The information that we were we was given [1:34:45, 1:34:47]: I brought it to [1:34:47, 1:34:58]: My councilwoman uh councilman Alexander, I brought it to Councilwoman Neat Robinson on what I w uh what I would advise us to do per hour training at GMAs. [1:34:59, 1:35:04]: And if we're not gonna operate per our training at GMA and bring that together [1:35:05, 1:35:07]: Council Malay Alexander wasn't there. [1:35:08, 1:35:26]: And when you talk about comparing comparing uh uh a stopbridge this uh uh stop bridge uh business of excellence program with what they're trying to do, you gotta adm you gotta understand something. I'm not asking anyone to vote on anything tonight. I only brought the to your attention that this is gonna be happening. [1:35:27, 1:35:47]: When I sit here be before my colleagues and we gotta sit here and go back and forth to put a perception that there's some here that that are less knowledgeable, there's some here that don't that don't wanna do what the GMA says. We can use those things when it pertains to what we want to do, but the actuality and honest truth to what's going on is that I got the training. [1:35:47, 1:35:48]: Yeah. [1:35:49, 1:35:55]: And I made my recommendations for how we need to start this. And if an if I don't have anything tangible in front of me [1:35:56, 1:35:58]: To tell me how this pro program's supposed to be ran? [1:35:59, 1:36:00]: Everybody got ideas. [1:36:01, 1:36:02]: But only plans work. [1:36:04, 1:36:05]: Right. [1:36:05, 1:36:06]: Anybody else? [1:36:07, 1:36:26]: There's a motion on the floor. Yes. All right, it's been seconded. All in favor of the resolution before you direct the staff to advertise and receive application of a person to serve on youth council and please end the game. Do I get to say? Excuse me. Do I get to say something? Oh I'm sorry. I thought you were done. Oh no. I'm so sorry. Go right ahead. Yes, because you said we get one by one. Yes you did. I said it. Go right ahead, please. [1:36:27, 1:36:34]: Councilman Blount, if I said anything to make it seem or appear that you didn't get [1:36:35, 1:36:36]: The knowledge. [1:36:38, 1:36:58]: What we had for the second day that reason why I stayed is because Madam Clerk made a request to the organizers if we can sit in. So we had a special pass so that way we can sit in with the interactions with the students and speak with them. [1:36:58, 1:37:00]: Getting their feedback. [1:37:00, 1:37:06]: on w how they've interacted with their youth council. [1:37:06, 1:37:17]: So we actually had the opportunity to speak directly with the young people. That was for the second day. We're the only one with Stockbridge, we're given that opportunity. [1:37:17, 1:37:30]: So that's why I stay. So I just want to make that clear. Um again, we have people in the schools. I just said it's a PTO president who [1:37:30, 1:37:42]: is leading the parents, knowing what is going on in the schools, they're willing to come out and provide assistance with our young people in our community. [1:37:43, 1:37:50]: All we have to do is invite them in. And I think the only way we can invite them in is to begin the process. [1:37:50, 1:37:59]: We can't continue to go back and forth, but I just wanna say is once we put it out, we just need to begin the process. [1:38:00, 1:38:00]: Thank you. [1:38:02, 1:38:03]: All right. [1:38:04, 1:38:04]: On that note. [1:38:05, 1:38:21]: There is a resolution before us council directing the staff to advertise and receive applications for persons who serve, which need to be adults, on a youth council advisory board. And if this passes, those individuals that come forward will automatically have to agree to a background check because they'll be dealing with children. [1:38:22, 1:38:24]: Okay, that's an automatic thing that has to happen. [1:38:24, 1:38:29]: So it's been uh motion's been made, it's been seconded. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:38:30, 1:38:31]: Opposed. [1:38:32, 1:38:34]: Okay, three two it passes. Thank you. [1:38:34, 1:38:35]: Now. [1:38:35, 1:38:37]: City Manager, your comments please. [1:38:39, 1:38:46]: Uh just wanted to make the council aware that you know a lot of the efforts um [1:38:47, 1:39:05]: here in Stockbridge the increased efficiency and beautification have not gone without notice and I think those efforts are starting to pay dividends in that. We've gotten some inquiries, a number of inquiries as of recent from filming companies but want to do some filming here in the city. So over the course of the next couple of days and weeks will be [1:39:05, 1:39:14]: There's a couple they need to talk um with the council in regards to, but um we're excited about the prospect that it holds over the next couple of weeks and months. [1:39:15, 1:39:16]: Okay, thank you. [1:39:17, 1:39:18]: Customer center. [1:39:19, 1:39:22]: Well thank you, city manager. That was that's outstanding. [1:39:22, 1:39:42]: We want to be Hollywood South too. So I I just want to thank everybody for coming out and let you know that every day that this council takes this job uh extremely serious and we're about moving the city of Stockbridge forward in every way possible. We had a great finance meeting last week chaired by Councilwoman Gay. [1:39:42, 1:40:02]: Gantt where we got down to business and we were talking about what we needed to do uh in terms of the city budget and financing. I always like I said want to make sure that we uh put our youth first and I think Mayor Pro Ten will do a great job reviewing that with uh the city manager uh as well to make sure we do. That was some great discussion. [1:40:02, 1:40:22]: Discussions. Uh there's been some talk about you know moving things forward uh uh during this season. I want to let you know things are moving forward. You know, design is about to begin or RP possibly going out for uh the design of the amphitheater here uh in the city hall area, possibly a master plan for uh the entire [1:40:22, 1:40:42]: So we can uh beautify the area. And Miss Robinson is always doing a great job of making sure that we stay on top of the things that we want to do. Uh Mr. Harris Bragg has just announced that there's a new business uh coming down downtown Brown uh Barn Beautiful and the things are happening here in [1:40:42, 1:41:00]: the city and are coming along. Things are moving in the right direction, ladies and gentlemen, and the budget is sound because we do have money in the bank. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for all of your support with everything we do and this youth council program is going to be very successful for this city. Thank you so much. [1:41:00, 1:41:01]: Half from the blood. [1:41:02, 1:41:04]: Yeah, I'd like to thank everybody for coming and um [1:41:06, 1:41:18]: This council is is really is an aggressive and progressive council and we're are moving a lot of things forward. We may not agree on on some issues but that doesn't mean we're not gonna see progress in this city. [1:41:18, 1:41:25]: Um we're gonna see it e each and every day. And this council is putting ourselves in position to be successful. [1:41:26, 1:41:26]: Um [1:41:27, 1:41:47]: We have some amazing things coming up and I just would uh like the citizens to just take notice around the city because in the even within the next few weeks we got a lot of a lot of things going on. We're gonna tear down the uh Carrie May Hammer building and I'm excited to see what uh what the design looked to put uh rebuilding uh for that uh facility and spot right there. I think [1:41:47, 1:41:51]: Thank each and every council member up here for uh they have a heart for the city. [1:41:51, 1:42:05]: We may not have uh collaborate on everything uh and when we speak but I believe everyone up here has a heart for the city and I think they was we all was elected to uh serve the citizens and I think that's that's our first mindset. [1:42:05, 1:42:13]: And I just appreciate everyone for coming out and just uh look forward to uh look forward to what the future's gonna bring for the city of Stanford. [1:42:13, 1:42:14]: Castlewoman can't. [1:42:15, 1:42:25]: I just wanna thank everyone for coming out tonight. Um and especially thank the staff and admin team. You guys have done a great job. Um [1:42:26, 1:42:41]: We couldn't do what we do without you. Our job is to vote on the issues and your job is to give us that advice and tell us which way how to get where we want to go. And I thank you guys for everything you do. Um [1:42:42, 1:42:55]: Especially um Mr Harris who has had to deal with a lot, a lot, and with changes going up and down and he's just been a phenomenal leader here and I just wanna say thanks to that. [1:42:59, 1:43:19]: We we um and and also to our clerk um who has done an excellent job at keeping us on track and keeping us together. That it's a totally different department and if you don't have um if you don't know a lot about government, you know that the clerk's office is off on their own pretty much and she holds it down. [1:43:19, 1:43:25]: And I can just say I just really appreciate Vanessa Holiday as well. Thank you. [1:43:26, 1:43:46]: We we don't do that a enough. We don't do that enough because it takes a village to run this city. It takes the employer employees to run this city. And so I just wanna thank everybody for coming out, um, for your continued support and prayers. This is our last food truck Tuesdays of the year. It's been a [1:43:46, 1:44:06]: a very successful year for that as well. Um and grits and jelly butter is outside, so if you get a chance to go out there for your one last time this year, I I recommend that you you know you give it a shot. And and we have other events coming up and we have other things coming up. But our big although we have events [1:44:06, 1:44:26]: I hope that this council, you know, we all agree and we've all agreed that our bigger goals is to get some buildings up. You know, it's not just all about events. It's about getting some things done that you want to see in the community. So I thank you for your continued prayers and support and I love the city of Stockbridge. Thank you. [1:44:27, 1:44:34]: Councilwoman Robinson. Yes, sir. Thanks to everyone for coming out and to staff as they already stated. Thank you, thank you. [1:44:35, 1:44:55]: Um but I'm just so excited we're gonna move forward for our youth council. So for everybody if you own a business, if you do not own a business, you live in our community, um please get involved, fill out a application because our youth need you. Um we need to be able to move forward to let them know that um when we start with our economic development [1:44:54, 1:45:14]: They need to stay at home. They don't need to go anywhere else. They need to stay here. So please, please, if you're retired, uh military, anything, please fill out the application, um, go through that process because we definitely need to get this going um so that way twenty seventeen will be well equipped and moving forward. But again, thank everybody. [1:45:14, 1:45:17]: Everyone for coming out and have a good evening. [1:45:20, 1:45:22]: Mayor Procamp. One second please. [1:45:28, 1:45:48]: And my comments are gonna be very simple in this case to the point. Uh thank you citizens for coming out, continue to keep us engaged as we work hard to uh move the city forward as one unit. So you can be proud of your city, proud of your council, and be proud of the fact that you live in the side of City Limits and Stockbridge and uh the largest city in Henry County. We're gonna make this the best city in the Atlanta metro area. [1:45:48, 1:45:48]: Yeah. [1:45:49, 1:46:02]: Okay. All right. There's a little sidebar thing there for you all. And uh first of all I want to also tell you I'm sorry, the citizens uh course be safe during the Halloween. Be safe out there with your families and the kids and if you're participating, uh [1:46:03, 1:46:08]: And give us some good little gifts for those those kids coming through. Sometimes those adults as well come through, all right? [1:46:08, 1:46:10]: So I'd be safe out there. [1:46:10, 1:46:14]: Oh, the announcements uh might be a pro town. Before you go into your announcements. [1:46:15, 1:46:23]: Uh you've um you've just voted to tax staff with putting out the application for the youth advisory board. I need to know the number. [1:46:23, 1:46:25]: And I need to know the term. [1:46:26, 1:46:31]: A number and terms, such as uh if it's gonna be a year, two years, thing something like that. [1:46:31, 1:46:33]: Okay. Yeah, go go right here, sir. [1:46:37, 1:46:51]: Those will be uh determined at a later date. This is just to receive applications and then the council can come back and establish those terms um because you're not appointing anyone at this point, you're just receiving applications. [1:46:51, 1:46:52]: Okay. [1:46:53, 1:46:55]: That suffice for you, Madam Clerk? [1:46:56, 1:47:00]: I'll include that in the announcement that the terms and the number of [1:47:01, 1:47:03]: members will be determined at a later later date. [1:47:04, 1:47:05]: All right. [1:47:05, 1:47:21]: Early voting at Merrill Manor's Conference Center lower level from October twenty fourth through November fourth. Please visit the city website for dates and hours of the voting. Okay. Zoning Advisory Board meeting Thursday, October twenty seventh, two thousand sixteen, six PM right here in the city hall. [1:47:21, 1:47:23]: In the council chambers. [1:47:23, 1:47:27]: community relations committee meeting. It's actually gonna be uh November third. [1:47:27, 1:47:28]: Six thirty. [1:47:29, 1:47:30]: In Levi. [1:47:30, 1:47:33]: uh meeting room and Councilman Blount is a chairperson for that. [1:47:34, 1:47:54]: Tuesday, November eighth, election day, ladies and gentlemen, citizens, go vote. Election day, November eighth. It's a local uh voting precinct. No voting will take place at Merrill Manors Conference Center. I already gave those dates earlier. Veterans Day Parade and Luncheon, Friday, November eleventh, two thousand sixteen, ten A. M. Contact the Stockbridge Event Department. [1:47:54, 1:48:01]: to register and participate. And they have a number here, seven seven zero three eight nine five nine eight two. [1:48:01, 1:48:04]: Our next council meeting is Monday, November fourteenth. [1:48:05, 1:48:12]: Six PM right here in the city hall chambers and that will be a public hearing for our budget for two thousand sixteen. Excuse me, two thousand seventeen. [1:48:13, 1:48:24]: The community housing forum, Thursday, November seventeenth, two thousand sixteen, six p.m. at Carrie May Hammerick Cultural Arts Center, one hundred forty six Burke Street, spearheaded by Councilwoman Robinson. [1:48:24, 1:48:28]: The downtown development authority meeting is Monday, November twenty first. [1:48:28, 1:48:30]: At six PM it's right here in City Hall. [1:48:31, 1:48:33]: at the Levi Stockbridge meeting room. [1:48:34, 1:48:45]: Our next work session is actually november twenty ninth, twenty sixteen, uh in City Hall Council Chambers, and we have a holiday festival, Thursday, December first. [1:48:45, 1:48:47]: five thirty PM to nine PM. [1:48:47, 1:48:51]: and Merrill Manor's Conference Center. Free shuttle service from the city hall. [1:48:52, 1:48:57]: uh parking lot uh from five until ten to transport people back and forth uh to that area. [1:48:58, 1:49:01]: On that note that's all the announcements. [1:49:01, 1:49:03]: And we do have an executive session. [1:49:03, 1:49:06]: Uh yes sir and uh need to emotion we need uh [1:49:10, 1:49:12]: All right, personnel litigation or real estate. [1:49:12, 1:49:14]: Ladies and gentlemen, I need a motion for that, please. [1:49:14, 1:49:19]: Yes ma'am I move that we go into executive session for personnel, litigation and real estate. [1:49:20, 1:49:20]: Is there a second? [1:49:21, 1:49:22]: Any discussion? [1:49:22, 1:49:25]: All favor please indicate. Okay. [1:49:25, 1:49:28]: Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back after the second session. [1:50:13, 1:50:14]: Oh. [1:50:36, 1:50:37]: All right, counsel, I need a um [1:50:38, 1:50:40]: Motion to uh [1:50:40, 1:50:42]: Take us uh to end our second session, please. [1:50:44, 1:50:45]: Mayor for Tan. Mayor. [1:50:45, 1:50:47]: I move that we end our [1:50:48, 1:50:48]: Um [1:50:48, 1:50:52]: Executive session? Okay, is there a second? Second. Okay, isn't further discussion? [1:50:52, 1:50:54]: All favor, please indicate. [1:50:55, 1:51:00]: I need a motion council to reconvene our work session, please. [1:51:00, 1:51:05]: Mayor Plotem? Yes, ma'am. I move that we reconvene our work session. Is there a second? [1:51:06, 1:51:09]: Second. There you go. In discussion. All in favor, please indicate. [1:51:10, 1:51:12]: All right. Uh [1:51:12, 1:51:13]: Me do uh [1:51:15, 1:51:23]: entertain any type of decisions that we may have made and a motion for those decisions? Mayor for Temperament. Yes, Mayor. I move that we um [1:51:24, 1:51:30]: approve that we appoint Sharon L. Booker um to the ethics board. [1:51:30, 1:51:31]: Is there a second? [1:51:31, 1:51:31]: Okay. [1:51:32, 1:51:33]: Is there any further discussion? [1:51:34, 1:51:35]: All favor, please indicate. [1:51:36, 1:51:37]: Okay, good. [1:51:38, 1:51:43]: Uh it's my assumption then that the i the clerk, will you you're the one that's gonna notify her of this, okay? [1:51:44, 1:51:48]: And council I'd like to also make a motion to confirm [1:51:48, 1:51:50]: Uh the recommendation [1:51:50, 1:51:55]: that our city manager, Mr. Michael Harris, made for our new public works director. [1:51:55, 1:51:58]: This they al Aaron, they s T Aaron. [1:51:59, 1:52:05]: I second. Okay, second down here. Okay. Any further discussion? All favor, please indicate. [1:52:05, 1:52:12]: All right, great. Uh council I'd like to make a motion that we adjourn I need a motion that we adjourn the meeting. [1:52:12, 1:52:15]: Mayor Patem, I move that we adjourn the meeting. Is there a second? [1:52:15, 1:52:17]: Second. Is there any further discussion? [1:52:17, 1:52:22]: All favor please indicate the meeting of the journal. Nine thirty five. [1:52:22, 1:52:23]: Night y'all. [1:52:39, 1:52:40]: Uh [1:52:50, 1:52:50]: Yeah. [1:53:00, 1:53:04]: Oh no, I have my heart. [1:53:05, 1:53:12]: Well what do I have to get? Oh do you have an equity? Oh yeah, but [1:53:21, 1:53:24]: Oh yeah,