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    --- title: February 8 2021 City Council Meeting Via Zoom date: 2021-02-08 source: 2021-02-08_February_8_2021_City_Council_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:05]: to me I I look mine looks clear but I don't know what's going on. Yeah, yours looks clear. Mine looks fuzzy. [0:00:09, 0:00:12]: Let me go get a um alcohol white. [0:00:12, 0:00:13]: Okay. [0:00:41, 0:00:42]: [ 72.4, 73.4]: Vanessa, that looks better. [0:01:14, 0:01:16]: Okay, yeah, that worked. [0:01:17, 0:01:17]: Okay. [0:01:18, 0:01:18]: Good deal. [0:01:20, 0:01:22]: Figure if it works on glasses, it should work on that. [0:01:27, 0:01:28]: Hey John, how are you? [0:01:31, 0:01:33]: Hey Vanessa, how you doing? [0:01:34, 0:01:37]: I'm well. How are you doing today? How you doing? [0:01:43, 0:01:45]: I'll see you at the Florida State up there. [0:01:48, 0:01:55]: My husband played for Florida State. Okay. This used to be my son's bedroom. Not anymore. [0:01:57, 0:01:59]: Because he moved out. So [0:02:01, 0:02:04]: Th that's only one thing. It's all around my house. [0:02:07, 0:02:11]: And they hit you can imagine how bad the season was the last two or three years. [0:02:12, 0:02:13]: Hey, well, you know. [0:02:14, 0:02:16]: They had nothing to brag about. [0:02:17, 0:02:21]: So take their needle, George take their needle, so. [0:02:26, 0:02:28]: They didn't have anything. I think they beat Florida State. [0:02:29, 0:02:31]: Well, you know. [0:02:33, 0:02:34]: Yeah, yeah, it's true. [0:02:36, 0:02:41]: I didn't see it, but I think they did. Yeah, I forgot about that. Oh yes, last minute. [0:02:42, 0:02:44]: Yeah. Mm-hmm. [0:02:47, 0:02:49]: Technician went crazy then. [0:02:51, 0:02:52]: Yeah, they did. [0:02:54, 0:02:57]: That's their rank, Florida State's rank. So yeah, that was a big win. [0:02:57, 0:02:58]: Mm-hmm. [0:03:01, 0:03:02]: Alrighty. [0:03:04, 0:03:05]: Good evening, everybody. [0:03:07, 0:03:10]: Councilman. Hi, how are you, Councilman Barber? How you doing? [0:03:58, 0:04:00]: I want to. [0:04:05, 0:04:05]: Yeah. [0:04:17, 0:04:19]: All right, cute girls. [0:07:27, 0:07:28]: Hello, hello, can you hear me? [0:07:32, 0:07:34]: Yes, we hear you. Hello, good evening. [0:07:35, 0:07:38]: It was so quiet I could hear a pen drop. [0:07:39, 0:07:44]: Like wait a minute, is something wrong? Can I nobody was making any noise? [0:07:46, 0:07:48]: No problem. We'll be all right. [0:07:48, 0:07:49]: Well [0:07:52, 0:07:54]: Oh, see Mr. Knighton. [0:07:56, 0:08:00]: Yeah, I remember back in the day I was watching this sponge ball with my son. [0:08:01, 0:08:02]: And he said it was three quiet. [0:08:03, 0:08:04]: Yeah, slightly. [0:08:05, 0:08:05]: Yeah. [0:08:06, 0:08:10]: It's not two quiet, it's three quiet. Oh my god. [0:08:25, 0:08:29]: I don't see Mr. Knighton. [0:08:36, 0:08:37]: There he is, he's connecting. [0:08:39, 0:08:40]: There he is. [0:08:42, 0:08:43]: Okay. [0:08:49, 0:08:50]: Good evening, everyone. [0:08:51, 0:08:51]: Even. [0:08:52, 0:08:53]: Yeah. [0:08:54, 0:08:55]: Hope you're feeling better. [0:08:56, 0:08:56]: Yeah. [0:08:59, 0:09:02]: Uh yeah, uh a little bit. [0:09:07, 0:09:07]: Oh. [0:09:13, 0:09:13]: Mm-hmm. [0:09:16, 0:09:20]: All right. A couple more minutes here. [0:09:49, 0:09:50]: Right. [0:10:08, 0:10:14]: We are now live on Facebook apparently, uh Mayor Ford, but uh just wanted to just wanted to inform everybody. [0:10:14, 0:10:15]: Appreciate that. [0:10:21, 0:10:35]: I tell you what, uh, let's go ahead and we have a quorum here, so let's go ahead and get started. I think it's about uh 559, but what's one minute, right? So on that note, I'd like to call this council meeting of February eighth, uh, two thousand twenty-one. [0:10:35, 0:10:36]: To order [0:10:37, 0:10:42]: And I'd like to ask the mayor pro tem uh uh Alexander to give the invocation. [0:10:43, 0:10:46]: Uh thank you, Mayor Ford. Would everyone bow your head, please? [0:10:47, 0:10:48]: Oh God. [0:10:48, 0:10:50]: Пліз, гев вас та віздом. [0:10:51, 0:10:52]: And guidance to make [0:10:53, 0:10:55]: Appropriate decisions for the vision. [0:10:56, 0:10:57]: Of the city of Stockbridge. [0:10:58, 0:11:00]: As each one of these leaders [0:11:00, 0:11:01]: Contemplate. [0:11:01, 0:11:02]: And sit at the table. [0:11:03, 0:11:05]: Given the charge by the public. [0:11:06, 0:11:07]: To put their interests first. [0:11:08, 0:11:10]: Let us always put that top of mind. [0:11:11, 0:11:13]: We know that you are the light. [0:11:13, 0:11:14]: And the way. [0:11:15, 0:11:16]: And we look to you. [0:11:16, 0:11:18]: And all the glory to you, Lord. [0:11:18, 0:11:19]: Because we know. [0:11:20, 0:11:21]: Every breath that we take. [0:11:22, 0:11:23]: Every meal that we ate. [0:11:24, 0:11:26]: And all the substance you provide for us. [0:11:26, 0:11:27]: Is all you? [0:11:28, 0:11:29]: During this time of covet [0:11:30, 0:11:33]: Please put your protecting, covering arms. [0:11:33, 0:11:35]: Over this community. [0:11:35, 0:11:36]: Than the world. [0:11:37, 0:11:38]: And let us all know. [0:11:39, 0:11:42]: No matter how dark or how bleak it may ever get. [0:11:42, 0:11:43]: That you sit on the throne. [0:11:44, 0:11:47]: And all the glory to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. [0:11:48, 0:11:49]: For all that you do. [0:11:49, 0:11:51]: All the glory to our God. [0:11:51, 0:11:52]: Amen. [0:11:52, 0:11:53]: Amen. [0:11:53, 0:11:54]: Amen. [0:11:55, 0:11:57]: Stand for the uh Pledge of Allegiance, please. [0:11:58, 0:11:59]: [720.9, 725.3]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of United States of America. [0:12:05, 0:12:10]: And so the republic or witness to one nation. [0:12:10, 0:12:12]: Nation on divide. [0:12:12, 0:12:16]: Individual individual with liberty and justice for all. [0:12:16, 0:12:17]: Yeah. [0:12:19, 0:12:21]: Thank you. Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:12:22, 0:12:24]: You're Ford. [0:12:25, 0:12:26]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:12:27, 0:12:27]: Present. [0:12:28, 0:12:29]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:12:33, 0:12:34]: That's in [0:12:37, 0:12:38]: Councilman Blount. [0:12:38, 0:12:39]: Present. [0:12:40, 0:12:41]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:12:41, 0:12:42]: Present. [0:12:43, 0:12:44]: Councilman. [0:12:44, 0:12:45]: Thomas. [0:12:46, 0:12:46]: President. [0:12:48, 0:12:49]: Mayor Ford, we have a quorum. [0:12:50, 0:12:54]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Uh Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:12:54, 0:12:55]: Wherefore [0:12:55, 0:12:56]: Sir. [0:12:56, 0:12:58]: I'd like to amend the agenda. [0:13:00, 0:13:00]: Okay. [0:13:01, 0:13:05]: I'd like to add an item uh concerning the bonding of [0:13:06, 0:13:09]: Public safety and Stockbridge Police Department. [0:13:09, 0:13:15]: I would like that item to be placed uh immediately after uh the address from [0:13:15, 0:13:22]: Uh new Henry County Sheriff Scandrick. Sheriff Skandrick will be speaking on overall public safety. [0:13:22, 0:13:27]: For Henry County, he will not be speaking on the Stockbridge Police Department. [0:13:27, 0:13:29]: Uh, this council will have that discussion. [0:13:29, 0:13:31]: Uh over this bond issue. [0:13:32, 0:13:33]: Is there a second for the motion? [0:13:36, 0:13:39]: Is there a second for the motion? [0:13:39, 0:13:40]: Okay. [0:13:41, 0:13:44]: Councilman Barber, second that motion. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:13:47, 0:13:49]: Okay, all pose. [0:13:52, 0:13:54]: Anybody opposes? Sustain. [0:13:57, 0:14:02]: I've I only got her four eye I believe a four four eyes. Is there there's someone missing, I believe. [0:14:03, 0:14:05]: Mayor, my volume is acting up. You said [0:14:06, 0:14:14]: The motion is to do what what is the motion for? In reference to uh having talking having some discussion about bonding for a a police department. [0:14:15, 0:14:20]: And have that after the presentation from uh chair, Reginald Skandrick. [0:14:21, 0:14:26]: Okay. That's fine. Okay. So that's it's a unanimous decision. Okay. Fantastic. [0:14:27, 0:14:30]: Five zero, um, Miss Holiday. [0:14:30, 0:14:36]: Adoption I have it. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. Adoption of the minutes. December 14th council meeting. [0:14:37, 0:14:49]: the December 22nd council work session and then we had a special call meeting on the 29th of uh December. So no changes if to any of that, then I need a motion to adopt those uh those actual minutes of those meetings. [0:14:50, 0:14:55]: So move. Okay. Mayor Mayor Pro Tem so moved to sec is there a second? [0:14:58, 0:14:58]: Is there a second? [0:14:59, 0:15:00]: I second. [0:15:01, 0:15:05]: Half from uh Gantt, uh all flavor, please indicate. [0:15:08, 0:15:10]: Okay for some okay. [0:15:10, 0:15:13]: I'm assuming that was in the house. Let me do something here. [0:15:14, 0:15:16]: Common Blood, I did not see your vote. [0:15:16, 0:15:17]: Thank you. [0:15:18, 0:15:19]: Right, so it's unanimous, okay. [0:15:21, 0:15:23]: Madam Furt, do we have any public comments at all? [0:15:25, 0:15:26]: There are no public comments. [0:15:26, 0:15:31]: Okay, on that note, then I will go into the ceremonial portion of our meeting. [0:15:32, 0:15:35]: And I have two proclamations to read. [0:15:36, 0:15:38]: If I can get these here. [0:15:38, 0:15:44]: All right. The first proclamation is reference to Zeta Fad Beta Sawardi Incorporated. [0:15:45, 0:16:03]: Whereas on January 16, 2021, Z5 Beta Swordy Incorporated celebrated 100 years, one excuse me, 101 years of service to communities around the globe, having been founded on the campus of Howard University on January 16, 1920, in Washington, DC. [0:16:03, 0:16:08]: With the principles of scholarship, service, sisterhood, and finer womanhood. [0:16:08, 0:16:17]: And whereas Sigma Omega Zeta chapter was charted in Clayton County on March 14, 2003, by Brandy Blackman, Tiffany Caldwell. [0:16:18, 0:16:19]: Sherry Canon. [0:16:19, 0:16:22]: Jalina Cannon, the computers. [0:16:22, 0:16:23]: Kornisia Harbor. [0:16:24, 0:16:44]: Kathy Hayes, Latasha James, Tiana Manuel Matthews, Lisa Matthews, Natasha Reynolds, Mishesha O'Web, and Zeta Fi Beta Sawarty is a community conscious action-oriented organization and calls all Zetas to action, social action at the local, state, [0:16:44, 0:16:45]: [1006.5, 1013.4]: Zeta Fibeta Sawadi conducts its programs and services under an umbrella of Zeta's helping other people excel. [0:16:53, 0:16:55]: That are known as Z Hope. [0:16:55, 0:17:06]: A holistic multidimensional outreach program designed to cultivate and empower participants to develop healthy lifestyles, choices, and components of mind, body, and spirit. [0:17:07, 0:17:11]: And it's specific to women, youth, seniors, men, and international women of color. [0:17:11, 0:17:14]: And Zeta Fly Beta Swordy volunteers their time. [0:17:15, 0:17:21]: and service and encourages people to do good deeds for others without asking for anything in return. [0:17:21, 0:17:26]: Zeta Five Beta Sword Incorporated Sigma Omega Zeta chapter of Clayton County. [0:17:26, 0:17:29]: Georgia has demonstrated and leads by example. [0:17:29, 0:17:32]: And z where a Zeta Five Beta Sword Incorporated. [0:17:32, 0:17:36]: The Sigma Omega Zeta chapter of Clayton County, Georgia serves Henry County. [0:17:37, 0:17:51]: And truly exemplifies their founding principles of scholarship, service, sisterhood, and final womanhood, including educational surrounding the importance of community outreach, the promotion of healthy lifestyles, and engaging in voter advocacy. [0:17:51, 0:18:11]: And whereas Zeta 5 Beta SWARTY has had a significant and consistent impact on the city of Stockbridge in Henry County for the past 18 years, with the ladies of the Sigma Omega Zeta chaptering with partnering with various nonprofit organizations to donate clothing, empowering our youth, serve our elder population and donor. [0:18:11, 0:18:14]: Donate school supplies to local schools. [0:18:14, 0:18:20]: Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtual authority, vested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:18:20, 0:18:25]: And on behalf of city council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gantt. [0:18:25, 0:18:45]: And Afonso Thomas to hereby recognize the 101st anniversary of Zeta Fibe Sawardi Incorporated and honor and commend 18 years of the reply service of their proven community partnership, dedication for positive change, and continuing to remain steadfast in the commitment to empower, uplift, and serve. [0:18:45, 0:19:05]: the residents of the city of Stockbridge. In witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on this eighth day of February in the year of our Lord 2021. And I signed the proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holliday. Congratulations, Adafine Beta Swordy. [0:19:07, 0:19:14]: And my second proclamation uh comes from excerpts from the 2021 statement from President Joseph R. Biden. [0:19:15, 0:19:18]: Black History Month, know the past, shape the future. [0:19:19, 0:19:30]: President City Stockbridge is guided by principles of inclusiveness in its commitment to help improve the lives of all individuals in the diverse community we serve. [0:19:30, 0:19:40]: Whereas the founding of what is known as Association for the Study of African-American Life and History, a Harvard-trained historian. [0:19:40, 0:19:49]: Carter G. Woodson helped establish Negro History Week, which later became nationally recognized as Black History Month by every president since 1976. [0:19:50, 0:19:56]: Whereas Black History Month is an opportunity to reflect on the struggle for freedom and equality in the US. [0:19:57, 0:20:06]: And whereas Black History Month allows our community to unite and celebrate the many achievements by Black Americans and other people of African descent. [0:20:06, 0:20:20]: And whereas a knee on the neck of justice opened the eyes of millions of Americans that launched a summer of protests and stirred a nation's conscience, and whereas a pandemic has further ripped a path of destruction through every community in America. [0:20:21, 0:20:36]: What we see is acute devastation among Black Americans who are dying, losing jobs, and closing businesses at a disapportionate rate in the dual pandemic and economic crisis. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, vested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:20:37, 0:20:45]: And on behalf of city council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Nikisha Gann, and Afonso Thomas do hereby proclaim February 2021. [0:20:46, 0:20:53]: It's Black History Month and invite the staff and the community to help uh uh help further efforts of equality through education and [0:20:53, 0:21:07]: I have hereunto set my hand, the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of February in the year of our Lord 2021, and I signed this proclamation along with our clip Vanessa Holiday. Outstanding. [0:21:09, 0:21:14]: On that note, uh Elsta absolutely else standing. On that note, uh [0:21:15, 0:21:30]: Uh we have a presentation by our Henry County Sheriff, which uh is Mr. Reginald Skandrick, which in sense of uh African American history is the first African American to be Henry County Sheriff, so he's made history himself. [0:21:31, 0:21:38]: So I'm happy to have you with us today during this proper time of African American Black History Month to give us a presentation, sir. Really appreciate you being here. [0:21:39, 0:21:42]: It's an honor certainly to be here with you guys today. [0:21:42, 0:21:52]: Um I sort of don't take this opportunity or any opportunity given some of these challenges that we're going through today, uh, in this country and globally for granted, uh this time. [0:21:52, 0:21:52]: Yeah. [0:21:53, 0:21:55]: Uh do I just dump jump right in the mirror? [0:21:55, 0:21:57]: Yes, sir. You have the floor. [0:21:58, 0:22:18]: All right, well, it it's it's an honor to be um and and people are calling me and and and during this season saying they congratulations on being the first African American sheriff. And that is a complete honor for me, but it's certainly an honor to be qualified uh to be in this position as well. And so that's certainly an honor for me, and it's particularly during this season. And during this season, we have tremendous change. [0:22:18, 0:22:21]: Challenges relative to law enforcement and the community. [0:22:22, 0:22:27]: And that was one of the platforms that we wanted to try to jump into and to try to take care of immediately. [0:22:27, 0:22:32]: on the relationship between law enforcement and the community. [0:22:32, 0:22:44]: And one of the ways that we attacked that initially was to create a division that specialized just and focused in on just on the concerns of law enforcement in the community. [0:22:44, 0:22:49]: And what I wanted to do more specifically is look at some of the challenges that we had. [0:22:50, 0:22:51]: From a real lifting perspective. [0:22:52, 0:22:56]: And to be able to sit down with those things, dissect those things. [0:22:57, 0:23:03]: sit down in various communities and go back to the twenty first century ways of policing. [0:23:04, 0:23:13]: Or the old school ways of policing, let me say that, and be able to sit down with people eye to eye and and with at at their residence and say, How can we help you suffer less? [0:23:14, 0:23:17]: What are some of the concerns that you see that we have not seen? [0:23:18, 0:23:26]: And what's some of the things that we can do collectively moving forward to order to one, to heal, and then two, to address them appropriately. [0:23:26, 0:23:35]: We're gonna go back to an old school way of of policing, an old school way of of that the sheriff should be or used to be years ago in getting involved, um [0:23:36, 0:23:56]: intimately with the communities and the concerns that they may have. We have a lot of them on the table relative to excessive force and use of force issues and the way that it is deemed that police officers overall or deputy sheriffs overall have dealt with communities at large, which overall is not [0:23:56, 0:23:56]: That's true. [0:23:57, 0:24:04]: And I said that to say because we have tremendous men and women that done the blue and brown uniform each and every day. [0:24:04, 0:24:06]: But it's often times that we get [0:24:07, 0:24:09]: Looked at and summarized by the actions of a few. [0:24:10, 0:24:14]: And that's going to be incumbent upon us in leadership to make sure that we look at those actions. [0:24:15, 0:24:35]: Uh if one person goes wrong, that's one too many. If one person goes over with respect to use of force issues or treat people inhumanely, that's one too many. And it's incumbent upon us in leadership to make sure that we see those issues, deal with those issues, and be transparent with respect to those issues and make sure that as we move forward. [0:24:35, 0:24:38]: Да ви мвфор і на гіл на холістик аспект. [0:24:39, 0:24:45]: And make sure that we hear from those progressively and we move forward. We can only do that as we sit down with each community. [0:24:45, 0:24:56]: create a very robust strategic plan in terms of what our needs are, what our goals are, what our missions are. And we want to make sure we start off with what's called SMART goals. [0:24:56, 0:25:01]: And the SMART goals are specific, measurable, attainable, realistic, and timely goals. [0:25:02, 0:25:12]: that we know that we can touch tangibly and collectively with the community and make sure we walk those things out collectively. Uh people quite frankly are tired of talking. [0:25:13, 0:25:15]: Uh people are [0:25:16, 0:25:19]: And it's important to press those open. [0:25:19, 0:25:20]: Number. [0:25:20, 0:25:23]: Yeah, yeah. [0:25:23, 0:25:26]: We do that, I think we'll start we'll start the [0:25:26, 0:25:26]: Yeah. [0:25:27, 0:25:29]: Uh next uh name. [0:25:29, 0:25:32]: That's your area, and here and here area, and here and here we come. [0:25:33, 0:25:34]: I certainly want to make sure [0:25:34, 0:25:37]: Yeah, struggle to make sure. [0:25:37, 0:25:43]: Is a uh that the uh that the other county become other [0:25:44, 0:25:45]: Reference. [0:25:45, 0:26:02]: And in addition to that, if we do that, I think we can also be an example for the states. And I said the word states because we have 50 of them, but we've we've lost the w the the word united. Um and if we if we put that word united back together, that's gonna take a considerable amount of work. [0:26:03, 0:26:12]: that we sit down and put that back together break by break in order to build this bridge that's been imploding uh has been imploded between law enforcement and the community. [0:26:12, 0:26:17]: That is our my laser focus. Uh we I've put together a tremendous team relative to that. [0:26:18, 0:26:22]: Um there's some concerns that we found, but there's nothing that we cannot [0:26:22, 0:26:24]: Deal with and address appropriately. [0:26:25, 0:26:28]: As we try to uh heal this land of ball starting with Henry County. [0:26:29, 0:26:30]: And that's pretty much where we are. [0:26:30, 0:26:32]: Questions, comments, concerns? [0:26:33, 0:26:36]: ideas relative to the community and law enforcement collectively. [0:26:38, 0:26:38]: But [0:26:41, 0:26:43]: Thank you, Mir. First of all. [0:26:43, 0:26:55]: And now I'm unmuted. Okay. I will say first of all that I I appreciate you and look forward to uh many, many years of success for you in the county as you continue to lead the charge in your department. [0:26:55, 0:27:02]: And without a doubt, I think you're the right man for the job. And uh so did a whole lot of other people in this aspect. And I know you're gonna do great for us all. [0:27:02, 0:27:11]: And that's just my initial comment, but I look forward to further dialogue with you over the course of many years. Comments, Council, for uh questions. Uh Councilman Blount, go right in, please. [0:27:16, 0:27:17]: You're muted, sir. [0:27:20, 0:27:21]: Can you hear me now? [0:27:21, 0:27:22]: Go right here, yes, we can. [0:27:23, 0:27:27]: Yeah, first of all I want to say thank you, uh Cheryl Scandret for coming today. Um [0:27:27, 0:27:45]: You you've definitely shown us a beacon of light when it comes to uh law enforcement in Henry County. I've seen you reach across the aisle uh and reached across races, and I've seen you reach across different uh ethnic and and just different groups, and I've seen the support uh there and I've seen your commitment. [0:27:45, 0:28:00]: to bringing this community together. And uh we're looking for great things from uh you and the the uh the sheriff department with Henry County. And I just want to say uh um God bless you and I wish you uh all the success that uh comes along with uh with the vision that you have for the county. [0:28:01, 0:28:04]: Thank you, sir. Humbled by that. Thank you so much. [0:28:05, 0:28:09]: Any other questions or comments for there? Uh Councilwoman Barber, please. Go ahead. [0:28:11, 0:28:21]: I asked Sheriff Scandron, I know that there is a difference between the police department and the responsibilities of the Sheriff's Department. [0:28:21, 0:28:33]: Can you tell me what the plans or goals are to work together with the police department and sheriff's department and what impact the community should see? [0:28:33, 0:28:34]: Come of that. [0:28:35, 0:28:53]: Yes, well well, we want to make sure that there that the the various police departments that we have here, that we work together as one. It's important that we do that, that we on the same page of music playing the same song. But in order to do that, we got to make sure we understand what the agenda is, what the mission is, and then begin to dissect it from there. [0:28:54, 0:29:06]: Oftentimes people don't know the difference between the sheriff and police departments. And I will put that in fundamental terms, uh, that basically the police department deals with the crime, the sheriff deals with the person. [0:29:06, 0:29:20]: Um uh we're not full service here in terms of the sheriff's office taking care of all the uh the police functions. It's only about eleven counties in out of 159 that has that, Henry County is one. [0:29:20, 0:29:40]: But the fact of the matter is that when a person is dealt with by the police department, that person is brought to the jail. That's the sheriff's office function. Uh that person is typically brought a take uh took to the courts after that. That's the sheriff's office function. Um, and also we deal with the warrants and the rips and things of that nature as well. So the person [0:29:40, 0:29:43]: From a holistic perspective, that's is the sheriff's function. [0:29:44, 0:29:46]: From a constitutional perspective. [0:29:46, 0:29:48]: Uh it is important that we work together. [0:29:49, 0:30:02]: In terms of what we're doing, there's not one person that I have met around this county that does not want to be safe. And that's one of the things we're gonna be doing with my mission as well, is putting together various task force that deal with crime in real time. [0:30:02, 0:30:19]: Uh we have the power to do that. We're certainly going to support the police department and what they do, but if there's some issues relative to stock bridge, we're going to attack stockbridge and make sure that we are looking at that community, what the issues are that are plaguing it and make sure we deal with that specifically in post-haste. [0:30:20, 0:30:37]: relative to that. So that's the fundamental difference between the police and law enforc I mean I and the sheriff's office. Uh yes we're gonna work together. Uh I don't believe anything that's short of uh uh of one vision is division. Uh and we certainly don't want that we would not tolerate that in Henry County. That if that existed before that day has changed. [0:30:37, 0:30:39]: Uh and we're gonna certainly move together as one. [0:30:40, 0:30:42]: Miraportam Alexander, go ahead, please. [0:30:44, 0:30:45]: You move to Sir. [0:30:46, 0:30:51]: Sor sorry about that. Uh thank you, Sheriff Scandard. I appreciate you accepting the invite to come. [0:30:52, 0:30:58]: And address us uh as well. So thank you. Talk about uh if you would [0:30:58, 0:31:00]: Uh your overall uh vision [0:31:01, 0:31:03]: uh for public safety [0:31:03, 0:31:05]: And in terms of the growth. [0:31:06, 0:31:08]: And uh secondarily to that. [0:31:09, 0:31:11]: Uh in your assessment of [0:31:11, 0:31:12]: You're [0:31:13, 0:31:21]: department right now in terms of manpower and what you actually need to get to where you're going to. [0:31:22, 0:31:25]: Well in my previous job that there is [0:31:26, 0:31:35]: levels of thinking relative to law enforcement depending on where you reside and where your county is. And uh Henry County is one of the fastest growing counties in the nation. [0:31:35, 0:31:51]: Uh, and it's important that we have a small town feel with the big town thoughts and and thinking process. In order to do that, we have to have twenty-first century ways of thinking about what we do, in particular to respect the public safety. [0:31:51, 0:32:02]: Uh I don't think we're there yet, uh quite frankly. But uh we have the potential to get there. Uh, but we're gonna have to answer the tough questions to do that. We're gonna have to make sure we have the support to do that. [0:32:02, 0:32:04]: Uh, quite frankly, I have heard. [0:32:05, 0:32:10]: that uh people are saying and and very strong positions that they support public safety. [0:32:10, 0:32:24]: Uh across the board, I have not seen that across the board. I've heard words across the board, quite frankly, but I have not seen that. Uh the public safety here, I think, uh are in strong needs of funding. Uh they're in strong needs of of bagging. [0:32:24, 0:32:30]: Uh then strong needs of people, the right type of people, and then the strong need of equipment. [0:32:31, 0:32:48]: Um uh for an example, you see some of the the the police department and the sheriff's office driving around in Crown Vicks with three hundred and four hundred thousand miles on them. They don't make Crown VIX anymore. Um so if there's a supportive measure afloat relative to supporting public safety, we need that to happen from [0:32:50, 0:33:04]: quite quick I'm very quickly uh from a leadership perspective across the county in positions that can do just that so that we can move forward and get into the 21st century way of policing right here in Henry County, particularly since we're growing so fast. [0:33:04, 0:33:07]: uh in in this county and in the state of Georgia. [0:33:08, 0:33:15]: Thank thank you. Just let if you need anything from us, please know that we're we're here for you. So please uh let us know how we can support you. [0:33:16, 0:33:20]: Yes, sir. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Casmant Tom, please, sir. [0:33:20, 0:33:24]: Thank you. Uh Mr Skandrick, Sheriff Skandrick, thank you again for coming. [0:33:25, 0:33:28]: Um, I wanted to take this opportunity, as many of you know. [0:33:28, 0:33:34]: Uh, we just celebrated our tenth annual African American Heritage Celebration. [0:33:34, 0:33:38]: Um and the committee, as you know, um [0:33:39, 0:33:43]: Um, selected you uh to receive [0:33:43, 0:33:46]: Um the visionary [0:33:46, 0:33:50]: Award from the heritage um committee. [0:33:50, 0:33:52]: Um we we did not [0:33:53, 0:33:55]: Focus on you being African American. [0:33:56, 0:34:00]: Um I followed your platform during your campaign. [0:34:00, 0:34:03]: And one of the things that that uh [0:34:03, 0:34:05]: Stood out for me and I think [0:34:05, 0:34:08]: Uh Mayor Pro Tem Alexander just hit on about [0:34:09, 0:34:10]: Uh your vision. [0:34:10, 0:34:13]: Uh your new innovative [0:34:13, 0:34:14]: Approach [0:34:14, 0:34:15]: uh to police and [0:34:16, 0:34:17]: Uh here in Henry County. [0:34:17, 0:34:20]: And that was one of the things that drove us to [0:34:21, 0:34:21]: Um [0:34:22, 0:34:23]: To to [0:34:23, 0:34:26]: I guess recognize you uh in that vein. [0:34:27, 0:34:32]: Um and I'm familiar with your platform and I I just want to just congratulate you. [0:34:32, 0:34:36]: I own that vision and on uh expressing that vision. [0:34:36, 0:34:39]: And so uh as you know, uh later this month. [0:34:40, 0:34:42]: Uh we will be um [0:34:42, 0:34:56]: awarding you with a visionary uh award um for your vision as as you have uh laid it out uh in henry county. So again, I just want to thank you for that. And let me also say that [0:34:57, 0:34:59]: Uh this award is not [0:34:59, 0:35:01]: Always a necessary [0:35:01, 0:35:06]: uh for your vision, but it also stands as [0:35:06, 0:35:09]: Um an encouragement e motivation. [0:35:10, 0:35:13]: Uh when we present and when we pat folks on the back. [0:35:13, 0:35:16]: Uh, we're also uh encouraging and motivated. [0:35:16, 0:35:19]: And I think that's what we need a little bit more of. [0:35:19, 0:35:23]: Uh especially folks in um elected office. [0:35:23, 0:35:43]: uh to stay focused and to stay motivated and to uh be encouraged uh to to move forward. And so I just again I just want to thank you uh for that uh focus that you have laid out as for a division for the sheriff department here in Henry County and um the committee will be in touch. [0:35:43, 0:35:45]: So again, I just want to thank you. [0:35:46, 0:35:59]: Thank you, sir. I'm certainly humble by that. And um I I c I cannot be more grateful than thankful uh with respect to that. And I and there's an old cliche that says uh to much is given, much is required. Uh and I certainly take that um uh [0:35:59, 0:36:08]: Take that seriously in terms of what we've been sworn to do, what we've been elected to do. Uh, and there are people here to the tune of 240,000. [0:36:08, 0:36:11]: Plus here in Henry County that is that have been waiting on [0:36:12, 0:36:16]: Us to take our rightful positions in these seats and make sure that they [0:36:16, 0:36:29]: do not have to go through progressive changes and issues because we sit in these seats and we represent them the right way. And if that and if an award comes from that, then so be it. Thank you so much for that. But it should be a calling that's ordained. [0:36:30, 0:36:37]: uh even before we were uh we were born, quite frankly, in terms of what we do. So people have been waiting for that for quite some time. And I'm just honored to be a point. [0:36:38, 0:36:39]: Uh that'll be conserved. [0:36:40, 0:36:41]: Thank you. [0:36:41, 0:36:43]: Any other comments from the council at all? [0:36:44, 0:36:46]: And if not, Sheriff Scandri. [0:36:47, 0:36:48]: I'm sorry, Ms. Kent. Is that you? [0:36:49, 0:36:54]: Yes. So Sheriff, I just want to thank you and welcome you to um [0:36:54, 0:37:03]: Henry County. I know you've been here, but in the position as sheriff. And um, we look forward to working with you. So I just wanted to say thank you so much. [0:37:04, 0:37:06]: Thank you so much. I certainly appreciate that. That means the world. [0:37:06, 0:37:07]: Thank you. [0:37:07, 0:37:20]: Okay, if there are no more uh no more comments, fantastic. Um Sheriff Scandard, really appreciate you being with us today in the presentation that you've given, your insight and your vision. Look forward to a great work and relationship for many, many years to come. [0:37:20, 0:37:26]: And God bless you, sir. And uh on that note, you're welcome to stay as long as you like, but we're gonna move on to our next topic. All right. [0:37:27, 0:37:29]: Thank you so much. Appreciate it. [0:37:30, 0:37:30]: Too long. [0:37:31, 0:37:51]: All right, so first thing up on agenda deals with the added uh item uh dealing with uh bonding in reference to uh future police department. Uh Mayor Pro Tem, you brought this issue up and um I'm pretty sure it's going to involve uh conversation not with the council but with the city manager and Mr. Ed Wall in that aspect. But go ahead, sir, Mayor Pro. [0:37:51, 0:37:53]: Protengo you start the conversation off and then we'll [0:37:54, 0:37:55]: We'll uh have other folks chime in. [0:37:56, 0:37:56]: Point. [0:37:59, 0:38:02]: Uh thank you so much, Mayor Ford. I certainly appreciate it. [0:38:02, 0:38:05]: And uh it was so fitting that Sheriff Scandrick [0:38:06, 0:38:15]: was able to present tonight. Uh I have so much confidence in uh where we're trying to go in the direction that uh he represents uh in this county. [0:38:16, 0:38:19]: I I just want to pick up on the words that he said. [0:38:19, 0:38:22]: А твані ф центри апроч. [0:38:23, 0:38:24]: to what we're doing. [0:38:24, 0:38:33]: I I I wish it was the first time that I had heard that we had officers riding around in cars with 300 and 400,000 miles. [0:38:34, 0:38:35]: But it's not. [0:38:35, 0:38:40]: In 2014, I went to a the to the Henry County Commissioners meeting. [0:38:40, 0:38:41]: Reformer Chief Nichols. [0:38:42, 0:38:43]: Who was literally begging? [0:38:44, 0:38:44]: Фор [0:38:45, 0:38:49]: Replacements where officers would go out and they would be dispatched. [0:38:49, 0:38:50]: uh in the community. [0:38:51, 0:38:57]: And they would be going at high rates of speed and uh and on a hope and a prayer that that car would stop. [0:38:58, 0:39:00]: Биказ ощусі з дис. [0:39:01, 0:39:06]: Subsequent to that, there were some monies raised and there was a splice brought forward that purchased [0:39:07, 0:39:09]: Uh some police cars for the police department. [0:39:10, 0:39:13]: But as we know, uh during that time in twenty fourteen. [0:39:14, 0:39:15]: We probably had about [0:39:15, 0:39:18]: Two hundred and eight, two hundred and nine thousand people in the county. [0:39:19, 0:39:22]: We have two nearly two hundred and forty thousand. [0:39:23, 0:39:26]: And seven to eight thousand people are moving to Henry County. [0:39:26, 0:39:28]: Every single year. [0:39:29, 0:39:33]: As we know, Stockbridge is the largest city. [0:39:33, 0:39:34]: In Henry County. [0:39:35, 0:39:38]: Yeah, we're the only ones without a police department. [0:39:39, 0:39:40]: Too often. [0:39:40, 0:39:43]: As I said, just over the weekend and I don't know if you I shared it. [0:39:44, 0:39:45]: With some of you. [0:39:45, 0:39:47]: That uh just in my neighborhood. [0:39:48, 0:39:52]: uh over the weekend there was a ring video that went viral. [0:39:52, 0:40:04]: It uh is all over next door and or social media where there were young men literally roaming the neighborhood, going into cars, taking items out of those cars, stealing. [0:40:05, 0:40:08]: That has is been pervasive in the k in the community. [0:40:08, 0:40:11]: And I saw it in my very own community. [0:40:11, 0:40:12]: Thankfully. [0:40:12, 0:40:13]: I was not a victim. [0:40:14, 0:40:15]: But there were several victims. [0:40:16, 0:40:17]: Uh no. [0:40:17, 0:40:19]: One victim had a gun. [0:40:19, 0:40:20]: That was stolen from them. [0:40:21, 0:40:23]: Those are the kind of things [0:40:23, 0:40:26]: That a local police department could surely impact. [0:40:27, 0:40:29]: I understand that the city [0:40:29, 0:40:31]: Of Hampton has a police department. [0:40:32, 0:40:34]: I understand the city of Locust Grove. [0:40:34, 0:40:36]: has a police department. [0:40:36, 0:40:40]: I understand the city of McDonough has a police department. [0:40:41, 0:40:45]: Surely the city of Stockbridge, the great city that we are. [0:40:45, 0:40:50]: And the reason that I wanted this item put first at the top of the agenda. [0:40:50, 0:40:53]: We're getting ready to vote on some historic items. [0:40:53, 0:40:55]: It involved bunding. [0:40:55, 0:40:57]: But make no mistake about it. [0:40:58, 0:40:59]: No item. [0:40:59, 0:41:00]: Not one of them. [0:41:01, 0:41:02]: Is more important. [0:41:02, 0:41:03]: than public safety. [0:41:04, 0:41:09]: We want vi I personally want this item to be first. [0:41:09, 0:41:16]: the first bond in the series as we attempt tonight to move in a historic ways. [0:41:16, 0:41:18]: Moving the city of Stark Ridge ahead. [0:41:19, 0:41:22]: To a solid foundation for generations to come. [0:41:24, 0:41:25]: I understand. [0:41:25, 0:41:28]: That the federal government is about to inject. [0:41:28, 0:41:33]: One point nine trillion dollars into our economy. [0:41:34, 0:41:36]: When they do that, the congressional budget office. [0:41:37, 0:41:39]: has estimated that it was [0:41:39, 0:41:40]: Take it like [0:41:41, 0:41:43]: An accelerant is going to [0:41:44, 0:41:49]: Get put the uh economy in overdrive, growing at nearly five percent. [0:41:50, 0:41:52]: What will happen based on [0:41:52, 0:41:55]: that infusion of cash into the community. [0:41:56, 0:41:58]: Interest rates will increase. [0:42:00, 0:42:03]: Even more impor even more imposing than that. [0:42:04, 0:42:06]: then interest rates is inflation. [0:42:07, 0:42:12]: Once that money hits the economy and the spending levels go up. [0:42:12, 0:42:13]: Is skyrocket. [0:42:14, 0:42:16]: What's gonna happen? Prices are gonna go up. [0:42:18, 0:42:20]: The prices of the police cars would go up. [0:42:20, 0:42:22]: The prices of any type of [0:42:22, 0:42:25]: building that we would need to do any type of material. [0:42:25, 0:42:28]: Everything is gonna go up because of [0:42:28, 0:42:30]: Inflationary pressures. [0:42:30, 0:42:32]: With the economy in overdrive. [0:42:33, 0:42:39]: We understand what's gonna happen. When that money hits the account, people are going to spend it. [0:42:39, 0:42:42]: And we we focus on interest rates a lot of times. [0:42:43, 0:42:44]: And the interest rates will increase. [0:42:45, 0:42:48]: I will simply say I was listening to the president speak. [0:42:48, 0:42:55]: Uh, over the weekend. No matter what your party affiliation is, I watched all the presidents. President Trump, when he spoke, I watched that too. [0:42:55, 0:42:58]: But something pretty much struck me. [0:42:58, 0:43:02]: When президент Байден ся ви нетюко біг, ви нетюкол. [0:43:02, 0:43:04]: And there's no time to wait. [0:43:04, 0:43:06]: Because if we do wait. [0:43:06, 0:43:09]: With interest rates being at historic lows. [0:43:09, 0:43:11]: They will increase. [0:43:11, 0:43:15]: Іскуна косте федерал гавермент більш долар. [0:43:15, 0:43:21]: But surely it will cost us hundreds of thousands, not just in uh interest rate increases, but [0:43:21, 0:43:25]: And inflationary pressures and increases as well. [0:43:25, 0:43:34]: Cause as we know, with seven to eight thousand people moving to Henry County each and every year, okay, as a realtor, I'll tell you, it's hard to find a house out there. [0:43:34, 0:43:36]: Housing prices have skyrocketed. [0:43:38, 0:43:40]: Everything is moving up. [0:43:41, 0:43:44]: As I saw the financial numbers and I think the treasure [0:43:44, 0:43:47]: Uh, Mr. Wiggins for providing them for us. [0:43:47, 0:43:49]: Even in extraordinary [0:43:50, 0:43:52]: Economic times. [0:43:52, 0:43:56]: His projection, which of course is not is an unaudited projection. [0:43:57, 0:44:00]: Calls for nearly one point three million dollars surplus. [0:44:01, 0:44:06]: being generated by the city of Stockbridge because of stewardship of of city finances. [0:44:07, 0:44:10]: And making sure that we spend these dollars wisely. [0:44:10, 0:44:14]: But I say that there's a nice calling out in the community. [0:44:15, 0:44:20]: From the moment that I ran for office, I heard we need a stopbridge police department. [0:44:21, 0:44:27]: From the moment I turn on social media to any group, I hear we need a stop ridge police department. [0:44:27, 0:44:30]: From the moment I went to the twenty fourteen. [0:44:31, 0:44:32]: Henry County. [0:44:33, 0:44:35]: Commissioners meeting to beg for [0:44:35, 0:44:38]: Реінфорсменсь и моніфової департамен. [0:44:39, 0:44:43]: The first thing they said to me was, Sir, you live in Stockbridge. I wasn't certain on the city council then. [0:44:43, 0:44:48]: They said, you live in Stockbridge. Why why isn't Stockbridge have a police department to be able to help us out? [0:44:50, 0:44:54]: And I said, you know, I didn't know the answer to that at twenty fourteen. I didn't know why. [0:44:54, 0:45:02]: And I said, you know what, I will seek that. But in the t in the meantime, these officers can't be out here risking their life because of inadequate equipment. [0:45:03, 0:45:04]: And outdated. [0:45:05, 0:45:05]: Um [0:45:07, 0:45:09]: outdated materials and uh [0:45:10, 0:45:13]: You know, when you get in your car, you expect your s your computer to work. [0:45:13, 0:45:22]: But we had people at that time that were using old dot matrix systems, if you know what that is, which is 90s technology. [0:45:22, 0:45:28]: And I I will bet it in some a we got so many outdated technologies uh in our area. [0:45:29, 0:45:32]: But I I would just uh close by saying a few items, which is [0:45:33, 0:45:35]: We talked about the Startbridge Police Department. [0:45:36, 0:45:37]: During the city retreat. [0:45:38, 0:45:43]: We talked about the Stockbridge City Police Department at many city council meetings. [0:45:44, 0:45:48]: We got an earful about the Stockbridge Police Department. [0:45:49, 0:45:49]: Uh uh. [0:45:50, 0:45:50]: Candidate [0:45:51, 0:45:52]: Forum. [0:45:52, 0:45:58]: Many of the candidates, many of the s several of us sitting here right now were reelected. [0:45:59, 0:46:00]: Initially we [0:46:01, 0:46:03]: Kinda what some of us I know I was for. [0:46:04, 0:46:07]: We're weren't quite so passionate about the Stockbridge Police Department. [0:46:08, 0:46:10]: But what we did was we listened. [0:46:11, 0:46:15]: We listened and we paid attention to what the people want. [0:46:16, 0:46:17]: The people elected us. [0:46:17, 0:46:20]: And said we want a police department. [0:46:20, 0:46:22]: We had a town hall. [0:46:22, 0:46:27]: Just last month, overwhelmingly, you know not not one person spoke out against it. [0:46:28, 0:46:31]: Everybody wanted to see the Startbridge Police Department. [0:46:32, 0:46:33]: But more so than that. [0:46:33, 0:46:36]: I would recommend that the town halls continue. [0:46:36, 0:46:38]: А вам доунгалс то коню. [0:46:38, 0:46:40]: Under the guise that they will [0:46:40, 0:46:43]: Give us the feedback on the appropriate. [0:46:45, 0:46:48]: Policing force that our citizens want to see. [0:46:48, 0:46:50]: That can work in coordination with [0:46:51, 0:46:52]: Sheriff Scandri. [0:46:52, 0:46:53]: Chief Aimerman. [0:46:54, 0:46:58]: And all of the public safety officials that we have. [0:46:58, 0:46:59]: Uh here in Henry County. [0:47:01, 0:47:03]: I just want to make sure. [0:47:03, 0:47:05]: What we do is do the right thing. [0:47:05, 0:47:07]: And to tell you. [0:47:07, 0:47:07]: But [0:47:08, 0:47:09]: We are committed. [0:47:09, 0:47:11]: Not just to talk about [0:47:11, 0:47:12]: A police department. [0:47:13, 0:47:15]: Ви комітета біга поліс департ. [0:47:16, 0:47:17]: And moving forward. [0:47:17, 0:47:18]: I will. [0:47:19, 0:47:19]: Make sure [0:47:20, 0:47:23]: That I do everything possible and based on [0:47:23, 0:47:25]: That I would like to make a motion. [0:47:26, 0:47:27]: To move forward. [0:47:27, 0:47:29]: With bonding three milyen dollars. [0:47:30, 0:47:33]: For the start-up costs for the Stockbridge Police Department. [0:47:34, 0:47:35]: Startup cost. [0:47:36, 0:47:37]: Mayor Pointwater. [0:47:37, 0:47:38]: Yes, sir. [0:47:39, 0:47:41]: I thought we was uh it was on there for discussion. [0:47:42, 0:47:54]: Well, we need to discuss it, whether there's a second or not, regardless, we need to discuss it. Which like I said, it's gonna involve Mr. Wall that's online right now, our uh city manager as well, and the rest of the council. If you got any comments on this one way or the other. [0:47:54, 0:47:58]: Yeah, but I'm saying if we put it on the agenda for discussion. [0:47:59, 0:48:08]: Um, and it's brought forward, I respect Councilman Alexander for his uh bringing it forward, but if he's bringing it forward for discussion. [0:48:08, 0:48:11]: then uh it's a discussion item. [0:48:11, 0:48:15]: Uh it has to be uh to your discretion. [0:48:15, 0:48:20]: for the other council members at least have a discussion about it and then a motion not to be presented. [0:48:21, 0:48:27]: uh as a discussion item and talked about by the one that's presenting it. And then now he's making a motion without discussion put in place. [0:48:28, 0:48:30]: Then it's not a discussion item, it's a it's a it's a motion item. [0:48:32, 0:48:32]: All right. [0:48:32, 0:48:33]: Wasn't on the agenda. [0:48:34, 0:48:51]: Okay, understand. Well, it's not been a second right now and and it and we don't necessarily need a second. We can have discussion. A motion can always come back later if that's the case. Absolutely. It can always come back. So in reference that you were talking, Councilman, what are your what are your concerns and questions and that you have on in reference to this? [0:48:51, 0:48:58]: Well first of all, let me say that that that it is a priority, that the city of Stockbridge needs to start working toward [0:48:59, 0:49:10]: uh our own police department. And for those citizens that are watching that didn't know, that at one time the city of Stockbridge did have its own police department as well as uh in line with all the other three cities. [0:49:11, 0:49:31]: Uh that had everyone had a own police department. There was some uh mishap that happened in the city of Stockbridge. They can go back and look at the history of that. And now the city of Stockbridge is now stuck with uh dependency on the county, which the taxpayers are paying a tax for uh those services. Um, I think the police services and all that is about three uh three. [0:49:30, 0:49:37]: three point six mil out of uh the uh mill's rate that they're paying right now uh for the taxes for the county. [0:49:38, 0:49:43]: Um my concern right now is I don't know if the city manager knew. [0:49:43, 0:49:57]: um that this motion would happen tonight. Uh we have a financial advisor on here. I don't know if that financial advisor knew that this motion would come tonight. One of the things that I want to see guess because uh in there was a LCI for the city of Stockbridge. [0:49:58, 0:50:00]: Uh in the plans when we playing for the amphitheater. [0:50:01, 0:50:06]: And one of the things for the amphitheater, which we have people online right now that we're gonna talk about later on. [0:50:06, 0:50:16]: is that we have gone about this amphitheater in ways that are unprecedented in other areas. And I just don't wanna see us falling in that because [0:50:16, 0:50:20]: Because we have the right to do something and make a vote, that don't mean it's the right thing to do. [0:50:21, 0:50:29]: As far as voting for it right now without having discussions, without consulting with our city manager and our financial advisor, and make sure that when we do it, [0:50:29, 0:50:40]: there aren't continual add-on costs that we understand what the cost is and that we don't that that when we move forward with our police department that it's gonna come to fruition. [0:50:40, 0:51:00]: Because we have the ins and out and we know everything about it. Not that a council sat down and say, hey, this is what we want, and let's take it, let's throw a number outside of our head and just go ahead and start moving on it. We gotta look at what the what are the numbers for sustainability? What are the what needs to happen in order for sustainability? We have a lot to talk about, ready to say we have the right to vote for a bunding right now for the [0:51:00, 0:51:03]: the police department. I'm for police department one hundred percent. [0:51:04, 0:51:08]: But I want to make sure that we're all clear on what we're voting for. [0:51:09, 0:51:15]: And what the future holds from the decision we're making and what the cost is gonna be and what has to happen. [0:51:15, 0:51:19]: We talked about sustainability could come in the form of a uh a tax. [0:51:20, 0:51:26]: Uh, because we uh we would definitely seek a rollback from the county. We have all types of avenues we have to seek first. [0:51:27, 0:51:31]: That this come to fruition and it becomes a benefit rather than [0:51:31, 0:51:42]: a burden on the taxpayer uh uh on the uh city of stockbridge because we have to make sure we're doing it right. We can't sit here as council member because we have the right to vote tonight. [0:51:43, 0:51:46]: And I think n that there's not one single council member on here that doesn't want [0:51:47, 0:51:50]: a police. We all are in favor of our own police department. [0:51:52, 0:52:00]: But we're right now is the expenditures that we're putting out right now and still don't have accurate numbers for projects that we still have on board right now. [0:52:01, 0:52:03]: While we go into another department. [0:52:04, 0:52:13]: And still don't have those numbers. And so we're writing blank checks that we don't know if we have to write another check to cover that check. I'm not for that. [0:52:13, 0:52:14]: I'm for doing it the right way. [0:52:16, 0:52:21]: All right, thank you, sir. Um, city manager, Mr. Knighton, what are your initial comments and thoughts, sir? [0:52:25, 0:52:29]: Um obviously this is a significant consideration. [0:52:30, 0:52:36]: uh by the mayor and council. Um if we need to have discussion or detailed discussion. [0:52:37, 0:52:40]: uh after the council, which I assume would have further comment or direction. [0:52:41, 0:52:44]: We can do that with our financial advisor and our bond council. [0:52:45, 0:52:48]: Um the uh we are prepared. [0:52:49, 0:52:53]: Um, as best we can to be able to provide you. [0:52:53, 0:52:56]: with an overall scenario if you want to go forward. [0:52:57, 0:53:00]: Um obviously this item uh is something that um [0:53:01, 0:53:03]: came forward in in in [0:53:03, 0:53:07]: Large part in the last several days, obviously it's been discussed before. [0:53:07, 0:53:17]: Um and in conjunction with the other bonding items that are on the agenda, we began to take a look at um what what it would look like. [0:53:18, 0:53:21]: А тад іні монетарі фігур то. [0:53:21, 0:53:23]: That bonding scenario. [0:53:23, 0:53:27]: I would mention of course that uh the last several years. [0:53:27, 0:53:31]: Uh the city has had the University of Georgia Carl Vinson Institute. [0:53:32, 0:53:48]: assess um the costs associated with a police department. It was an initial study done some years ago, and then it was refreshed last year with respect to the overall cost, annual costs, startup costs, and so forth. [0:53:48, 0:53:51]: uh staffing levels of a police department. [0:53:51, 0:53:54]: So that information uh is contained. [0:53:54, 0:54:02]: Uh, in those studies. Uh, I would probably uh defer this point to the council if the council has any further comment. [0:54:03, 0:54:06]: uh and then uh determine uh [0:54:06, 0:54:07]: Our [0:54:07, 0:54:10]: Uh tr determine how Mr Mr. Selby and Mr. [0:54:10, 0:54:13]: A wall can provide further guidance. [0:54:13, 0:54:16]: I have a question there. Go right in, Mr. Mr. Blount. [0:54:16, 0:54:21]: Uh Mr. Knight, uh, you spoke about uh Mr. Wallet, our financial advisor. To what extent? [0:54:22, 0:54:26]: Are we prepared to give information pertaining to this? [0:54:26, 0:54:36]: uh motion. What what extent are you prepared and Mr. Wall prepared to give us this counsel tonight in the direction we're going uh to add millions upon a bond. [0:54:37, 0:54:37]: Uh [0:54:38, 0:54:49]: right now, uh Mr. Knighton and Mr. Walls as our financial advisor, what information do you have to give us tonight? Tonight, right now, prior to making this vote, pertaining to this motion. [0:54:50, 0:54:53]: Well, we can we can go into a level of detail if we need to. [0:54:54, 0:54:59]: Um, you know, my my job part of my job of course as city manager is to try to be as prepared as possible. [0:55:00, 0:55:02]: And there was some d some a notion. [0:55:02, 0:55:16]: That perhaps a discussion involving this would take place. I spoke with Mr. Selby and Mr. Wall of the last several days and their team to determine what would be the best mechanism. [0:55:16, 0:55:19]: To move forward with this, if that is the council's desire. [0:55:20, 0:55:22]: Of course, we had been already preparing for [0:55:22, 0:55:28]: the uh other items that are on the agenda related to the amphitheater cultural arts center and uh trio. [0:55:28, 0:55:29]: uh system. [0:55:30, 0:55:36]: Um but um we can go as as detailed and deep as we as as you need us to. [0:55:36, 0:55:39]: If that is the c the the desire of the council this evening. [0:55:39, 0:55:42]: Well just a follow up, Mr. Knighton, if you will, uh Mayor. [0:55:42, 0:56:01]: When we talk about the bonding that we already have on table, when we talk about the the culture arts and alone and Mr. Walls, you can jump in at any time. We're talking about uh around nine hundred and eighty, about nine hundred and sixty-five thousand dollars that's gonna be hitting our budget. And I know we got splot funds coming in. [0:56:01, 0:56:03]: What is the overall impact? [0:56:04, 0:56:07]: About general fund going this route with bunding. [0:56:07, 0:56:10]: So uh prior to [0:56:10, 0:56:14]: uh moving forward with projects like we're doing right now so [0:56:14, 0:56:19]: We we're talking about interest rate, but what what about the impact that we're gonna be putting on our uh [0:56:20, 0:56:21]: o of the sp expenditures [0:56:22, 0:56:30]: Uh, to bring these projects to fruition, but the expenditures that are being put out that are gonna be taking over a year more. [0:56:31, 0:56:35]: Uh but yet we're gonna be uh obligated for the interest [0:56:35, 0:56:38]: Uh obligated to pay the interest rate on these bonds. [0:56:39, 0:56:41]: So w we we'll stop filing bonds. [0:56:42, 0:56:50]: But they're not this not free money. We're still gonna be obligated for interest rate on these bonds until these projects, until movement comes forward. [0:56:50, 0:56:54]: So we can say we're stockpiling bonds for future use. [0:56:55, 0:56:55]: But [0:56:55, 0:57:07]: Until then we still have interest rates that are gonna happen to that. And I like Mr. Walls, if you don't mind speaking to that respect on uh interest rate pertaining to the bonding that we're doing now and what kind of hit that [0:57:07, 0:57:13]: that bringing in uh extra millions, what type of hit that that that the city would take on on top of that bundle. [0:57:14, 0:57:34]: If I may, before Mr. Wall, Ms. uh Mayor Ford, can I just real quick and before Mr. Wall. Go ahead. Go ahead, please. Um, yes, Councilman Bloom is correct. I mean, obviously bonds, if they are extended, it is going to be an expense out of the general fund uh with a period of 15 years. If the council desires something different with the policing uh matter that may be a [0:57:34, 0:57:35]: a little bit different. [0:57:35, 0:57:39]: But it will be an impact to the general fund, as I've said that before. [0:57:40, 0:57:43]: And that is obviously something that has to be considered. [0:57:44, 0:57:47]: When um issuing bonds every year. [0:57:47, 0:57:53]: Um potentially starting next year, half of next year, if it's approved the way it's set up currently. [0:57:53, 0:57:56]: there will be an impact to the general fund. [0:57:57, 0:58:01]: And um and so everyone we all need to understand that. [0:58:01, 0:58:02]: And we all [0:58:02, 0:58:06]: Would need to prepare staff, would need to prepare ourselves accordingly. [0:58:06, 0:58:10]: Or to budget accordingly, understanding that impact will take place. [0:58:11, 0:58:14]: Mr. Knight, could you also speak to the decrease [0:58:14, 0:58:23]: And w when we talked about monies that was coming in, we had talked about overtages that was coming into the city, that those numbers have decreased. [0:58:24, 0:58:26]: For the city of Stockbridge. That's what I've been informed by you. [0:58:27, 0:58:34]: No. No, I I I I think we're talking about let's let's talk about a couple of things. One is fund balance. I think the fund balance issue. [0:58:34, 0:58:36]: If that's what you're referring to, Councilman Blount. [0:58:36, 0:58:37]: Well we'll come. [0:58:37, 0:58:49]: Mm-hmm. Go ahead. Yeah, a couple of couple of years ago, um, we had a very large fund balance that came in. I think it was two point six or so million dollars. The following year, if I remember right, it was about one point [0:58:49, 0:59:00]: Uh I'm sorry, it was about$117,000. In that year, of course, we had a number of expenses that the council is fully aware of in terms of property acquisition. [0:59:01, 0:59:06]: And also um a major uh legal batter matter that uh we we had to undertake. [0:59:06, 0:59:11]: And then last year I believe it was just over five hundred thousand dollars, some of which though [0:59:11, 0:59:17]: Um, I think we did with some capital. And so I think I see Ed nodding his head. I think I've got that correct. [0:59:17, 0:59:20]: In terms of fund balance um increase. [0:59:20, 0:59:26]: I will say, and we have to always take these things in context. Um, you know, obviously our financial advisors. [0:59:27, 0:59:32]: And staff try to project as best we can. We're coming out of a covet situation that is unique. [0:59:32, 0:59:37]: uh to all of us however however we did see loss numbers increase [0:59:37, 0:59:41]: Will that continue next year and the following year as we come out of COVID? [0:59:41, 0:59:45]: We don't know. That could be a new normal. It may not be. We don't know. [0:59:45, 0:59:50]: And so we have to look at the revenues that are uh coming in currently. [0:59:51, 0:59:56]: Try as best we can project um what will come in uh after that. [0:59:56, 1:00:00]: And determine uh the best financial scenario, but again. [1:00:00, 1:00:03]: Of course there will be an impact to the general fund. [1:00:04, 1:00:05]: Every year ago. [1:00:05, 1:00:06]: For Bondi projects. [1:00:07, 1:00:14]: I'd like to get a hear Mr. Wall's take on that, if he would uh just talk about what we just spoke on. [1:00:15, 1:00:16]: Small, the floor is yours, sir. [1:00:17, 1:00:18]: Thank you, sir. So um [1:00:20, 1:00:23]: The splost four and splosed five. [1:00:23, 1:00:26]: Are funding the amphitheater and the trails. [1:00:27, 1:00:31]: We've got a change order on the amphitheater we gotta talk about tonight. [1:00:31, 1:00:32]: Um [1:00:32, 1:00:34]: Is what how you want to fund that. [1:00:35, 1:00:41]: But Splos four and SPLOS five hand on the amphitheatum trails. The Cultural Arts Center at 14 million. [1:00:41, 1:00:43]: is going to be carried largely by the general fund. [1:00:44, 1:00:48]: That's about nine hundred and seventy thousand dollars a year increase in the general fund. [1:00:49, 1:00:50]: I have [1:00:50, 1:00:56]: capitalize the interest in the bond issue so that your first payment doesn't occur until August of twenty two. [1:00:57, 1:01:00]: And the first full freight would be your fiscal year twenty three. [1:01:01, 1:01:05]: Um, Mr. Knight asked me to run numbers for adding three million. [1:01:05, 1:01:07]: for police equipment. [1:01:07, 1:01:12]: Police equipment or vehicles, cameras, furnishings for the new precinct. [1:01:12, 1:01:13]: You have to [1:01:14, 1:01:15]: Borough [1:01:15, 1:01:18]: term equal to the useful life of the equipment. [1:01:19, 1:01:24]: So I figured seven years would be the useful life of the cars and the cameras and the equipment. [1:01:25, 1:01:28]: And so a seven year three million dollar bond issue. [1:01:28, 1:01:31]: Would add another five hundred and thirty five thousand to the general fund. [1:01:32, 1:01:34]: until you could find another source of revenue. [1:01:37, 1:01:43]: And that would be just for clarification, Mary, if I may, that would be for a seven year period on that component. Is that correct, Ed? [1:01:44, 1:01:45]: Yes, sir. [1:01:45, 1:01:45]: Okay. [1:01:46, 1:01:48]: The other items he mentioned is on a fifteen year. [1:01:51, 1:01:51]: Okay. [1:01:53, 1:01:55]: All right, uh Mari Pro Tem I was going to go ahead. [1:01:56, 1:02:16]: Uh yeah yeah, just uh for clarification, um and honestly, uh I started this conversation uh with Mr. Knighton several uh days ago. I just I thought I would step out because I I just hear it from so many citizens to step out on faith and to know. And please understand. [1:02:16, 1:02:20]: Uh Mr. Wall and Mrs. Knighton have every number that you want. [1:02:20, 1:02:23]: To compare it to just like on the rest of the bonds. [1:02:23, 1:02:25]: Uh, that we're going through tonight. [1:02:25, 1:02:30]: Are they taking the same approach with this one right here? Should we decide to go forward with it? [1:02:30, 1:02:31]: And I just think [1:02:32, 1:02:34]: You know, it's just like uh [1:02:35, 1:02:38]: Uh sh just like our previous speaker Sarah Scandis said. [1:02:38, 1:02:40]: The people have been waiting long enough. [1:02:40, 1:02:42]: How much longer should they have to wait? [1:02:43, 1:02:45]: І цапта ус то так лідерши. [1:02:46, 1:02:48]: And to take it by courage. [1:02:48, 1:02:51]: To vote for what the people have told us. [1:02:51, 1:02:52]: that they want. [1:02:53, 1:02:58]: We know that uh again we have eight thousand people moving to this county each and every year. [1:02:59, 1:03:00]: We understand that um [1:03:01, 1:03:03]: There will be increases in our revenue. [1:03:03, 1:03:05]: And we did understand [1:03:05, 1:03:06]: Yeah, the trajectory. [1:03:07, 1:03:11]: Those fund balance increases come in every single year. [1:03:12, 1:03:27]: I've seen it since I've been here. It was two million, two million, two million, then one hundred, then a million dollars. The year that it went down, we actually did something as a council. We spent some of the money on projects here in the city that needed to be done. [1:03:28, 1:03:32]: I will assure you again, the reason that I wanted this one to be first. [1:03:32, 1:03:34]: Is that we wanted to make sure [1:03:34, 1:03:39]: That no citizen left tonight saying, What about public safety? [1:03:39, 1:03:41]: Because what would happen would be [1:03:41, 1:03:45]: Uh everything would be lined up in order to make sure [1:03:45, 1:03:52]: That the public safety announcement and everything is first. That money will be spent first. And let me make no mistake about it. [1:03:53, 1:03:53]: Nope. [1:03:53, 1:03:55]: A my intention. [1:03:55, 1:04:00]: is not to borrow the money and sit on it, it is to actually start a police department. [1:04:00, 1:04:01]: Moving it forward. [1:04:02, 1:04:03]: Hiring a police chief. [1:04:04, 1:04:10]: Doing what's necessary. That would be my intent. My intent would not be to sit on the money and do nothing with it. [1:04:11, 1:04:13]: The the pip the citizens have told us what they wanted to do. [1:04:14, 1:04:19]: It's up to us to do it. My decision is not to sit to finish the amphitheater. [1:04:19, 1:04:33]: to talk to actually complete the cultural art center. So nobody's taking out a bond to sit on the money to stack them up. The idea is to j demonstrate that we can just do more than talk. [1:04:35, 1:04:43]: More than talk. Y'all talked about a police department for a long time. When are y'all gonna stop talking and actually do something? [1:04:43, 1:04:44]: Tonight [1:04:44, 1:04:47]: We can clearly demonstrate to our citizens. [1:04:48, 1:04:50]: Да ви комітет то публі сфі. [1:04:51, 1:04:52]: By bonding this money [1:04:53, 1:04:55]: Moving forward now. [1:04:57, 1:04:57]: Right. [1:04:58, 1:04:58]: Um [1:04:59, 1:05:02]: Councilman uh Thomas, do you have any comments, sir? [1:05:02, 1:05:04]: I do. Um [1:05:05, 1:05:08]: I've had this discussion for a while. [1:05:08, 1:05:09]: Um [1:05:10, 1:05:12]: Someone made reference to the [1:05:12, 1:05:18]: Police department that we have years ago. Um, I remember that. I live with that. [1:05:18, 1:05:20]: I'm familiar with the reason why the state [1:05:21, 1:05:22]: Uh discontinued that. [1:05:23, 1:05:27]: Um I've had discussions uh with Mr. Nine here recently about this. [1:05:28, 1:05:29]: And [1:05:31, 1:05:33]: Two questions ought to come to mind for me. [1:05:34, 1:05:36]: And I I do agree um that [1:05:37, 1:05:40]: If we move forward with the three million. [1:05:40, 1:05:55]: I would not be in favor of sitting on it, you know, paying interest on money, just sitting. And I think uh Mayor Pro Tem Alexander sort of hit on it, because I even asked the question, you know, how do we go forward? And that was my other question, was the the how to. [1:05:56, 1:05:57]: Um [1:05:57, 1:05:59]: And then I asked myself [1:05:59, 1:06:00]: Um [1:06:00, 1:06:02]: What would be the reason? [1:06:03, 1:06:05]: What would be the reason why I [1:06:06, 1:06:08]: I would say wait. [1:06:10, 1:06:12]: And I have not heard that reason. [1:06:13, 1:06:14]: Why to wait? [1:06:15, 1:06:16]: Um [1:06:18, 1:06:19]: I'm a faithful person. [1:06:20, 1:06:23]: I'm a logical person. I'm a sensible person. [1:06:24, 1:06:27]: Um I I think that we have to [1:06:28, 1:06:29]: Uh go forward. [1:06:30, 1:06:33]: Um, there's been a lot of talk about the police department, and I would say [1:06:34, 1:06:37]: If we decide tonight to to bind the three [1:06:38, 1:06:45]: Uh I'm I feel pretty confident that we are going to create some level of going forward. [1:06:45, 1:06:59]: um to utilize the three million. That doesn't mean that you have to have a 100% uh fully equipped, organized police department. But I think when we say start up. [1:06:59, 1:07:02]: I I think we can have some level of [1:07:03, 1:07:07]: uh a startup or a entry type of a force [1:07:07, 1:07:08]: But whereas now [1:07:09, 1:07:14]: Uh, we don't have anything now, you know. I I have public safety issues myself. [1:07:14, 1:07:15]: Um [1:07:15, 1:07:17]: Everyday issues. [1:07:17, 1:07:19]: That I do not see being addressed. [1:07:20, 1:07:21]: And I've been waiting. [1:07:22, 1:07:24]: Uh for ten years or more. [1:07:24, 1:07:32]: Um on the Stockbridge Police Department. And the issues and my concerns, my public safety issues and concern. [1:07:32, 1:07:34]: A groin. [1:07:34, 1:07:36]: more and more every day. [1:07:37, 1:07:39]: But again, um [1:07:39, 1:07:42]: I have not heard the reason why we should wait. [1:07:42, 1:07:45]: I I have not heard the reason why we should not. [1:07:46, 1:07:49]: Uh, I've heard many reasons why we should go forward. [1:07:49, 1:07:56]: But I have not heard any reason why we should not. And and and that just, you know, my take on it. Um [1:07:57, 1:07:59]: I like to be able to see [1:08:00, 1:08:01]: And understand [1:08:01, 1:08:02]: The vision. [1:08:03, 1:08:05]: And the path forward. [1:08:06, 1:08:07]: I do not see [1:08:08, 1:08:09]: Um [1:08:09, 1:08:12]: being stagnant. I I don't see that. Um [1:08:12, 1:08:14]: So that's that's sort of [1:08:14, 1:08:17]: My issue and that's the way I approach things. [1:08:17, 1:08:19]: If if there's a reason why I'm [1:08:20, 1:08:23]: Um, you know, as God say, you know, peace be still. [1:08:23, 1:08:28]: If there was a reason for me to to be still, then I would say, okay, let's be still. [1:08:29, 1:08:30]: But I don't see that. [1:08:31, 1:08:36]: Uh I do see and understand a path of going forward. And I would be um [1:08:37, 1:08:54]: help pushing you know the engine to go forward if we burn the money. It would not be um just somewhere you know in the storehouse and we just paying taxes on it. I'll be about trying to move this forward, especially if we go down this road. And I think it would be incumbent upon all of us. [1:08:55, 1:08:56]: Um to make it happen. [1:08:56, 1:08:57]: Um [1:08:58, 1:08:59]: If the three millions are there. [1:09:00, 1:09:03]: How is the best way to utilize? [1:09:04, 1:09:05]: The three milyen. [1:09:05, 1:09:07]: In going forward. [1:09:07, 1:09:17]: to create the Stockbridge Police Department. And I think that we could do that. I think we can get that startup. Uh it like again, it does not have to be [1:09:18, 1:09:19]: A one hundred percent [1:09:20, 1:09:22]: fully equipped department. [1:09:23, 1:09:24]: Um [1:09:25, 1:09:27]: We need public safety now. [1:09:28, 1:09:30]: We need some level. [1:09:30, 1:09:33]: a public safety nine and and then we all know that [1:09:33, 1:09:36]: Um, you know, in our discussion with Henry County. [1:09:37, 1:09:41]: Uh what we had ten years ago for is the service from the county. [1:09:42, 1:09:43]: We don't have that now. [1:09:44, 1:09:50]: And we're not going to get that level of uh cooperation or service from the county now. So again. [1:09:51, 1:09:55]: Why are we waiting? I'm I'm still listening for [1:09:55, 1:10:02]: That reason and I I have not heard that. I've heard reason why we should go forward. So just in closing, Mayor, um [1:10:02, 1:10:06]: I'm still waiting to hear why we should not go forward. [1:10:07, 1:10:08]: What are we waiting for? [1:10:08, 1:10:12]: All right, stand by please. Councilwoman Barber, you would had your hand up earlier. [1:10:15, 1:10:19]: I did. Um, so I do support um [1:10:19, 1:10:24]: The bonding of the three million dollars to establish a police department. [1:10:26, 1:10:29]: During the whole cityhood fight. [1:10:29, 1:10:30]: Uh [1:10:30, 1:10:34]: That was one of the things that we heard the most when we knocked on doors. [1:10:35, 1:10:36]: People wanted it. [1:10:36, 1:10:38]: They asked us about it. [1:10:38, 1:10:40]: Um I know then that [1:10:40, 1:10:41]: The council [1:10:41, 1:10:45]: was having discussions about establishing a police department. [1:10:47, 1:10:50]: I don't want to continue talking about it. I want to take [1:10:50, 1:10:53]: Um collapse steps to bring this to fruition. [1:10:55, 1:10:57]: Um so [1:10:58, 1:11:00]: I don't know why. [1:11:01, 1:11:02]: Nevertheless. [1:11:02, 1:11:03]: Um so [1:11:04, 1:11:06]: I do support um [1:11:06, 1:11:08]: This motion. That's all. [1:11:18, 1:11:19]: You're on mute. [1:11:22, 1:11:25]: Thank you very thank you very much. I didn't realize it. Go ahead, Ms. Gantt. [1:11:26, 1:11:29]: Thank you. Um I I have one question. [1:11:29, 1:11:33]: Again, I think we all want police depart the police department. Um [1:11:35, 1:11:40]: I know that in the past our feasibility study basically uh mentioned [1:11:41, 1:11:41]: Um [1:11:42, 1:11:44]: If we were to get a police department [1:11:45, 1:11:48]: We possibly if we don't tax. [1:11:49, 1:11:54]: or have some type of tax in the future, we would be in the red. [1:11:55, 1:11:56]: And so [1:11:57, 1:12:17]: Bonding three million dollars, if that is the actual amount, I would like to know the actual actual amount that's suggested to start up a police department that was mentioned and go based off of numbers. I don't want us to throw out some random number number out there and I don't think this is a random number, but I think that [1:12:17, 1:12:19]: We we need accurate numbers. [1:12:20, 1:12:25]: Um so if if this and I remember three million for some reason. [1:12:25, 1:12:27]: Um and maybe someone can help me out on that. [1:12:28, 1:12:28]: But [1:12:29, 1:12:35]: I also am concerned, yes, that's startup, but we haven't laid out [1:12:36, 1:12:41]: Um again we were you know we're to have the town halls. We haven't laid out any [1:12:41, 1:12:50]: Other information about a police department after the startup cost. And so I would love for us to. [1:12:50, 1:12:55]: discuss that, uh make sure that our all the citizens are aware. [1:12:55, 1:12:56]: And [1:12:57, 1:12:58]: We need to be very [1:12:59, 1:13:15]: conscious of that part. Um I'm not against bunding out for a startup of the police department again. But that's just part one. Are we gonna do part one and not have a long term plan in place? I think that we [1:13:16, 1:13:19]: Need to have the whole plan laid out. [1:13:20, 1:13:21]: I I just think we do. [1:13:22, 1:13:23]: Um [1:13:23, 1:13:31]: Again, I'm for bunding. I'm asking mayor and counsel maybe if we now that we know we're all for bonding the startup cost. [1:13:31, 1:13:41]: if we're okay with maybe our next meeting, making sure that staff will have a plan in place for not just startup, but for the actual operation. [1:13:43, 1:13:44]: That's all I have. [1:13:45, 1:14:00]: Okay, thank you. Now so I haven't spoken on this yet. So I just want you all to know my initial thoughts about this is is simply this. Police department is a great thing. We need to do that. Obviously in the last several years, we've not had a very adequate SDS agreement to county. And so [1:14:00, 1:14:03]: Having a police department, yes, we need to do so. [1:14:03, 1:14:12]: Now my basic concern is is allowing to have the dialogue with the citizens and let them realize and know, and it's from my thought process that [1:14:12, 1:14:14]: You we have no city property tax now. [1:14:15, 1:14:35]: to have a startup police department, whether it's three million, whatever the million would be, there will probably be some type of city tax involved. And I and I'd rather or would like to know or at least let the citizens know that there will be a tax. And I honestly think there will be. Now obviously that maybe come through some additional research and and justify whether or not that is really a case. But it's just my simple [1:14:35, 1:14:39]: simple assumption that there will be some type of tax involved and people just need to know that. [1:14:40, 1:14:56]: And um and and and maybe a lot of folks may say, well that's no problem. This is what I w I want a police department, I I'm I'm I'm all right with the tax. Well that's fine. But they just need to know that. We just need to make sure we're up front and we have a better idea of the cost factor and what they would be taxed for, because right now there are no city property taxes. [1:14:56, 1:15:02]: in this aspect. So that's that's a concern of mine. But to have a police department is something I think we need to do anyway. [1:15:02, 1:15:04]: And to to help um [1:15:04, 1:15:15]: be self-sufficient. We we're self-contained. We can handle things and do things what we need to do to cover our ordinances and and police our own people in this aspect as well. So it makes us a better city, I think, in the long run. [1:15:15, 1:15:20]: Oh, those are those are my initial comments. Councilman Barber, you had your hand up earlier again. [1:15:22, 1:15:33]: Yes, um Mayor Pro Tem Alexander actually spoke about a police chief or maybe even a consulting firm that we could actually bring on board now. [1:15:33, 1:15:37]: To do all of the legwork that Mr. Nighton has been doing. [1:15:38, 1:15:39]: Um and [1:15:39, 1:15:41]: Um possibly [1:15:41, 1:15:42]: Um [1:15:42, 1:15:46]: Facilitate the town halls that Mr. Knightman has been doing. [1:15:46, 1:15:49]: I want us not only to just be talking about this. [1:15:50, 1:15:52]: I want us to make things happen. [1:15:53, 1:16:01]: Yes, we need information that we can share to the community about you know the taxes, the possible increase or [1:16:02, 1:16:04]: Implementation of a city tax. [1:16:05, 1:16:08]: That's information that we could hire a consulting firm. [1:16:08, 1:16:10]: Or an individual [1:16:10, 1:16:17]: for then to work directly with Mr. Knighton and to do all of that research and bring it back to the council. [1:16:17, 1:16:18]: So that's all. [1:16:21, 1:16:23]: Good thought. Uh Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:16:24, 1:16:31]: Uh Mr. Knighton, uh one I'm saying not Mr. N uh Mayor, thank you. Uh one of the things we have to realize is on this Zoom call even tonight. [1:16:32, 1:16:33]: We have what we call a financial advisor. [1:16:35, 1:16:47]: A financial advisor takes all information. He he he he he formulates and shows us the impact it would be to the city of Stockbridge in any direction we go in. That's what a financial he's on the card. We've already hired one. [1:16:47, 1:16:57]: He's on the call tonight. There's no such thing as a start up police department. You either have one or you don't. It's a get started amount that we can get get going with a police department. That's what we can get. [1:16:57, 1:16:59]: But if you don't understand uh [1:17:00, 1:17:00]: Uh [1:17:01, 1:17:11]: What we're looking at, three million dollars is not gonna be enough. And I think that came out of the Carl Vincent Institute uh study that we had. Uh there's uh there's no backup. [1:17:12, 1:17:13]: Um [1:17:14, 1:17:16]: Show there's no packet showing [1:17:17, 1:17:23]: what this would what this would all cost what it would take. We're all for it. Then let's get all the information together. [1:17:24, 1:17:35]: Let's let's not let's not take this and piece it, piece it, piece it, piece it. Let's get an overall plan on what it's gonna cost, what it's gonna take, and that's what we move forward with. [1:17:35, 1:17:50]: To sit here and say, hey, we're throwing$3 million in it right now. And so, hey, this this is startup. What is it gonna be? What is the impact gonna be to the taxpayers, uh uh, to the citizens of Stockbridge? What is it gonna cost? We don't have this information. [1:17:50, 1:18:09]: This is why I said we should wait and I agree with Councilwoman uh Gantt. Let's sit down and let's get everybody together and let's say, hey, this is what it's gonna cost. All the professionals, not elected officials. See, when it comes to me, when it comes to my faith, I use faith in my personal life. [1:18:10, 1:18:12]: I use facts when it comes to the taxpayers' money. [1:18:13, 1:18:19]: Okay, it's not my dollars, it's the taxpayers' dollars. So I use facts, and right now the facts are not there. [1:18:20, 1:18:23]: To show what the impact would be on the taxpayers. [1:18:24, 1:18:30]: My faith is that once it gets going, once we get a police department, it's gonna flourish and be awesome. That's my faith. [1:18:31, 1:18:43]: But I need some facts to back up the decision we need to make with the taxpayers' dollars. And we don't have that. We don't have it. If any council member on here have those facts, have the overall numbers, bring it forward now. [1:18:44, 1:18:52]: Because I we need to we need information brought forward other than just a vote to say move this three hundred three million dollars. It makes no sense. [1:18:54, 1:19:01]: All right, uh Marepotem um Alexander, let's make this a last comment, Alexander, so we can move on with this discussion. [1:19:01, 1:19:02]: Let me see. [1:19:02, 1:19:10]: Uh sir, I I simply wanna call the question. You well, I think we've gone on. Everybody's got to speak twice and it's time to call the vote. [1:19:13, 1:19:15]: Yeah, what's your motion, sir? [1:19:15, 1:19:18]: My motion is to move forward with [1:19:18, 1:19:21]: Bonding three million dollars for the initial startup cost. [1:19:21, 1:19:23]: For the Stockbridge Police Department. [1:19:23, 1:19:26]: Something that was long overdue and our citizens won. [1:19:29, 1:19:31]: Councilman Barber, did you just second that? [1:19:32, 1:19:34]: Okay. Any further discussion? [1:19:36, 1:19:36]: Okay. [1:19:37, 1:19:39]: Council Plant, one last thing. [1:19:39, 1:19:42]: My Casman Block, one last time. Go ahead, please. [1:19:42, 1:19:46]: My vote on this issue is not that we don't need a police department. [1:19:47, 1:19:51]: My vote on this issue is that we need to do it the right way. [1:19:51, 1:19:55]: And that's what I'm petitioning this council to do it the right way. [1:19:55, 1:19:58]: Instead of sitting back because we have the power to vote. [1:19:59, 1:20:04]: And do it like now. We haven't consulted our uh financial uh advisor. [1:20:04, 1:20:24]: We haven't consulted with our um city manager to talk talk to financial body and uh and even even discuss extra services or whatever. We haven't talked to anybody because we're not going to be able to make provision for all the services here in Stockbridge. We still got to have some intergovernment agreements in place with the county. Nothing has been discussed. What will those services cost us? [1:20:24, 1:20:40]: What would be the impact that if we have to implement a tax? We may not have to. We don't know. We don't know. It's so many unknowns, but yet still, because we feel good about ourselves to be able to say, let's put$3,000,$3 million toward a police department. [1:20:40, 1:20:42]: It makes no sense. [1:20:42, 1:20:43]: This makes no sense. [1:20:44, 1:20:47]: Councilwoman Gantt, go ahead, please. One last time. [1:20:47, 1:20:51]: Thank you, Mayor. Um, I was just asking my colleagues, um [1:20:51, 1:20:52]: To [1:20:52, 1:20:57]: Again, I'm not against the bonding. I want to go ahead and bond for the starter. [1:20:57, 1:21:13]: But I also want us to have everything organized. So I was asking, I had asked earlier and I'm asking them to please consider tabling and actually voting on bonding on our work session and having everything in order. That's all. I feel like [1:21:13, 1:21:16]: This was thrown up tonight. [1:21:16, 1:21:33]: unexpectedly and it's three million dollars but I want to I want some type of presentation where we have all the details laid out. Okay, this is our startup cost, but how are we going to maintain it? Insurance, everything. It's a go. [1:21:33, 1:21:39]: I'm for it 100%. I'm just asking that we have our plan and our layout in place. [1:21:39, 1:21:40]: That's all. [1:21:41, 1:21:51]: All right. All right. Motion's been made, been seconded. Mayor question. Yeah. Yes, council. Can we ask the city manager? [1:21:51, 1:22:04]: What would be the impact? Because you I remember uh two or three years ago, this the county's insurance went up four million dollars. Can can can we talk to uh have the city manager speak toward the insurance, the increase in insurance on projects like this? [1:22:05, 1:22:13]: All right, stand by. Mr. Knight, uh, can you answer that question, please? Well, I think in the study, the Carl Vinson study, operational costs were taken into account. [1:22:14, 1:22:16]: Operational cost of four point six million. [1:22:16, 1:22:20]: Startup capital costs eight eight hundred and fifty four thousand a year. [1:22:21, 1:22:25]: Um some facility costs a hundred and seventy one thousand for a total of five point six eight. [1:22:26, 1:22:29]: мільн долар он анілка [1:22:29, 1:22:32]: per year to operate a police department. [1:22:32, 1:22:36]: Remember one of the Carvis and Institute went through a number of different [1:22:36, 1:22:37]: Um [1:22:38, 1:22:41]: Police departments throughout the state of Georgia. One was most notably [1:22:42, 1:22:45]: The city of Dunwoody, because that had been the most recent at the time. [1:22:45, 1:22:47]: that had been uh developed. [1:22:48, 1:22:52]: Uh and those numbers that they utilized in terms of startup costs. [1:22:52, 1:22:54]: Операціонал кос [1:22:54, 1:22:57]: uh to maintain it over a period of time. [1:22:57, 1:22:58]: were presented in their study. [1:23:01, 1:23:01]: All right. [1:23:03, 1:23:11]: Okay, hopefully hopefully there's no other comments. We can make the vote and then we can go through another analysis on this aspect. Motion has been made, been second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:23:14, 1:23:15]: All pose. [1:23:17, 1:23:18]: Abstain. [1:23:18, 1:23:27]: Only b only because I think we need a little I need we we need a better layout, but I'm for it. I just need a better layout. That's all. [1:23:27, 1:23:29]: Adam Perkus three one one. [1:23:29, 1:23:44]: Um Mr. Wall and Randy, Mr. Knighton. You Mr. Knight, you mentioned earlier in your conversation that now the the council has now voted for this 311. You said you had additional information or data and status. Is that what you want to discuss now? Is this for another occasion? [1:23:44, 1:23:52]: I think we probably would be best served to discuss that with the other bonding items when they come forward to the council. And we will [1:23:53, 1:23:56]: be prepared to wrap all of this in uh during that discussion. [1:23:56, 1:24:09]: All right. Well then we'll move on to the next item, which would be Amphitheater Project Update, which is actually presented by you, Mr. Knighton and Kurt Vogel and Carl or Carl, what it Tread of how do you pronounce your last name, Carl? I'm sorry. [1:24:10, 1:24:19]: Trebatin. Travathan, Trebathan. Okay. Excuse me for messing that up. All right. And Carl's with Kak and Wood and of course uh Kirk is with HJ Russell. [1:24:20, 1:24:32]: Mr. Nine, go ahead and start this conversation, please. Yes, thank you, Mayor. Um, it does give us pleasure tonight to update uh the council and uh of course the viewing audience, the citizens on the status of the amphitheater project. [1:24:32, 1:24:38]: Course anybody who has gone by City Hall has seen how the amphitheater has continued to grow and build and be constructed. [1:24:39, 1:24:42]: Um a a project of this size and magnitude. [1:24:43, 1:24:47]: Um has a number of different intricacies and a number of different people who are involved. [1:24:48, 1:24:51]: Um certainly the construction team and subcontractors. [1:24:52, 1:24:55]: Архітекс проєкт менеджер. [1:24:56, 1:25:03]: And then working with all of the different entities that have to be involved in something like this, like Georgia Power, ATT, and all of these other entities. [1:25:03, 1:25:07]: It takes a great deal of coordination, uh, great deal of time. [1:25:07, 1:25:11]: Uh, to build uh the project, but it has gone forward. [1:25:11, 1:25:13]: That is moving uh well. [1:25:14, 1:25:16]: And um I will [1:25:16, 1:25:20]: Without further delay, I will turn this over to Kurt Vocal. [1:25:20, 1:25:25]: with HJ Russell to provide an update uh on the amphitheater project. [1:25:26, 1:25:27]: Welcome, Kurt. [1:25:27, 1:25:28]: All right, answer. [1:25:28, 1:25:33]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. Thank you, Randy, and thank you, all you uh council members. [1:25:33, 1:25:35]: Could I share my screen? [1:25:37, 1:25:43]: Yes, I believe our IT person, Robert, if you would allow Mr. Vocal to be able to share his screen so he can provide his presentation. [1:25:50, 1:25:51]: Thank you. [1:25:53, 1:25:58]: I'm gonna uh give you guys a about a two minute video of where we are. [1:25:59, 1:26:02]: And this was as of uh earlier this afternoon. [1:26:06, 1:26:08]: So this is where we were exactly a year ago. [1:26:10, 1:26:12]: And this is where we are as of today. [1:26:16, 1:26:18]: That's a view down into the plaza. [1:26:20, 1:26:25]: You're looking at the uh uh roofs of the outer plaza buildings, the pavers are in. [1:26:26, 1:26:29]: The uh VIP canopy booths are in. [1:26:31, 1:26:39]: That's what these white uh fabric structures are. The soding going in at the uh terrace lawn seating area here. [1:26:41, 1:26:45]: Is actually in place. It's a little brown right now because it's out of season. [1:26:48, 1:26:50]: You can see that the fixed seating is in. [1:26:55, 1:27:01]: Sidewalks going down the through road along with Georgia Power site lighting. Tree planning started today for our landscaping. [1:27:04, 1:27:07]: There's a view to the three different detention ponds. [1:27:10, 1:27:13]: This would be the view that you would have from the um [1:27:15, 1:27:16]: Believe this is the terrace level. [1:27:17, 1:27:20]: Right above the uh fixed seating looking down at the stage. [1:27:21, 1:27:28]: Have a really nice view on across the amphitheater, a very strong architectural uh element there for the uh front of the stage. [1:27:30, 1:27:35]: It really casts a really nice glow in the in the uh late hours of the afternoon. [1:27:44, 1:27:48]: This is a little higher up in the amphitheater, actually up underneath uh the um [1:27:49, 1:27:50]: VIP seating. [1:27:51, 1:27:53]: Right out in front of the East Concessions. [1:27:54, 1:28:00]: What you're looking at are the affixed uh BIP seating area, uh the um drink rails. [1:28:01, 1:28:05]: That people will be able to set their drinks and their food on as they're watching the show. [1:28:15, 1:28:20]: Now this is the uh concessions we'll call in restroom building, starting with the West Concessions. [1:28:20, 1:28:22]: This would be the view from the uh through road. [1:28:23, 1:28:31]: So you're seeing the roofing, the masonry, the cast stone, the uh landscape paver walls and walkways. [1:28:36, 1:28:47]: That's the front entrance to the uh ticketing area. The actual glass is in and we're working on the uh canopies that'll go over that area. The area out in front is set for the uh pavers. [1:28:56, 1:29:10]: This would be one of the main um on-grade accesses into the uh plaza. So this would be basically where food trucks would uh come on in and set up through the uh plaza area. They would be able to drive through. [1:29:10, 1:29:11]: This area here. [1:29:15, 1:29:17]: That's the main restroom building. [1:29:22, 1:29:26]: And this is the entry area uh adjacent the East Concessions. [1:29:29, 1:29:31]: basically comes out of city hall parking. [1:29:37, 1:29:40]: We're gonna swing the uh camera view on around here. [1:29:41, 1:29:45]: There's the catwalk that'll lead you up to the uh terrace level. [1:29:59, 1:30:11]: There's a lot of handrail work and guardrail work that's been ongoing. In front of the uh East Concessions, obviously the masonry is is uh well in place, the steel is there. [1:30:11, 1:30:22]: Uh the uh aluminum canopy has actually started and the uh overhead coiling doors are in. So that space is uh fully closed off. Um the um [1:30:23, 1:30:26]: The stone countertops are actually in place as well. [1:30:28, 1:30:30]: The interior of the uh [1:30:31, 1:30:35]: Concessions areas have the uh epoxy floors. [1:30:36, 1:30:43]: They're underway now. Interior finishes are are well underway throughout all the buildings and nearing completion. [1:30:48, 1:31:01]: That uh that gets us all the way over to the East Concession, starting our our outriggers there for the canopies, stone uh stone countertops are also in, as well as the uh concession overhead coiling doors. [1:31:03, 1:31:05]: Got a little bit of work left on the fascia. [1:31:06, 1:31:11]: That's the main catering area. That's where the artists will be gathering prior to their performances. [1:31:12, 1:31:13]: It's very [1:31:13, 1:31:15]: Interesting ceiling. [1:31:15, 1:31:17]: Very colorful, very dynamic. [1:31:20, 1:31:25]: Very nice lighting inside of that area, cabinetry and stone countertops. [1:31:28, 1:31:30]: And these are the makeup areas. [1:31:31, 1:31:33]: Tile walls and lighted mirrors. [1:31:36, 1:31:43]: This is the interior of the uh terrace level restrooms, wall tile, uh toilet compartments, hand dryers. [1:31:44, 1:31:47]: And this is a interior shot of the concessions area. [1:31:52, 1:32:03]: And that is basically just an overall view. We have the uh asphalt uh binder in for the uh front parking area uh coming on up uh with the uh plaza roadway. [1:32:05, 1:32:16]: We have a little bit of a binder left to do all the way on out to um East Atlanta. Our lower parking lot is ready for its topping. Have some work to do over at the um [1:32:16, 1:32:20]: through roadway, um entrance on to uh North Lee Street. [1:32:23, 1:32:25]: So things are moving along quite well. [1:32:26, 1:32:28]: Been very busy these last two months. [1:32:36, 1:32:39]: Hey Kurt, can I ask the question now? You're done with the presentation, sir? [1:32:39, 1:32:40]: Yes, sir, I am. [1:32:40, 1:32:50]: Okay, in the uh the permanent seating up front, there's an open space. Is that still gonna be uh some tables of permanent tables of schedule to go there, tables and chairs? Or is that where was that again? [1:32:51, 1:32:58]: In the very front of the permanent seats. The permanent seats. Right right in front of the stage. Yes. Down in front there. Yes. [1:32:58, 1:33:03]: Are are there tables and chairs or split permit seating for there as well? [1:33:03, 1:33:23]: Uh there's not permanent seating, but there would be um tables that would be set up for the actual shows, I believe. Okay. All right. Right. Yes. Yes. Okay, no problem. And the other last time you gave a presentation, sir, I wanted to find out uh when we might have a grand opening, and you gave me the time frame of possibility. [1:33:23, 1:33:28]: possibly May, late May, right around Memorial Day weekend. Is that still your estimate in that aspect? [1:33:29, 1:33:39]: Uh I definitely believe the buildings are well in advance of the um rest of the site work over here uh for the additional parking areas. Um [1:33:40, 1:33:45]: So yes, I would say that would be a uh a uh safe. [1:33:45, 1:33:46]: Opening day. [1:33:48, 1:33:48]: All right. [1:33:49, 1:33:51]: Depending upon the overall um [1:33:52, 1:33:58]: approval on the uh phase two work and getting released to move that forward. [1:33:59, 1:34:03]: Whether depending, I believe everything could be wrapped up by the middle of June, I believe. [1:34:05, 1:34:19]: All right. But this pandemic is still among us, so that'd be Yes sir, it is. Thank you, sir. Uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. Thank you. Uh Mr. Vaughn, thank you uh for this presentation. [1:34:20, 1:34:22]: Can you pan to the [1:34:23, 1:34:27]: out of perimeter of the data over by the um [1:34:27, 1:34:28]: Pons [1:34:29, 1:34:30]: Um [1:34:31, 1:34:34]: And the way I'm looking at it would be to the far left. [1:34:40, 1:34:40]: Am I quite? [1:34:41, 1:34:48]: My question and I tried to go back and look. Yes, I tried to go back and see. [1:34:48, 1:34:52]: There is a temporary uh fence. [1:34:52, 1:34:53]: There [1:34:53, 1:34:58]: Uh and Mr. Night, you may be able to answer this. I I tried to go back to some of the earlier renderings. [1:34:58, 1:35:00]: I I could recall [1:35:01, 1:35:02]: What permanent [1:35:03, 1:35:07]: security um and I'm not talking about cameras or lighting. [1:35:07, 1:35:09]: Uh some type of fencing. [1:35:10, 1:35:13]: Some type of barrier that will separate [1:35:13, 1:35:16]: Um the the homeowner's property. [1:35:16, 1:35:20]: And the actual uh campus of the amphitheater. [1:35:24, 1:35:31]: Right. Is that as I remember and maybe Kirk or Carl can speak to this as well, but as I remember there would be a buffer. [1:35:32, 1:35:34]: Some type of vegetated buffer along [1:35:35, 1:35:41]: That back property line, those prop those properties that back are off of Bryant Street, I believe you're referring to. [1:35:42, 1:35:46]: A um natural buffer and I can't remember, was there a fence? [1:35:46, 1:35:47]: Um as well. [1:35:48, 1:35:50]: Along that back property line. [1:35:51, 1:35:52]: I do not believe so. [1:35:53, 1:35:53]: Okay. [1:35:54, 1:36:00]: Well, I I would highly recommend and I guess we can sort of discuss this as we go, but [1:36:00, 1:36:05]: Um I I really think it's going to take um I think there's a need. [1:36:06, 1:36:09]: For um some type of um [1:36:10, 1:36:13]: Secure defense uh along that line. [1:36:13, 1:36:17]: But you know, we we can talk about it later, but um Yeah. [1:36:17, 1:36:18]: Yeah, right. [1:36:18, 1:36:19]: I'm sorry. [1:36:20, 1:36:22]: Now I'm just gonna say I I just think it's needed. [1:36:22, 1:36:25]: Mm, okay. Yeah. I know you mentioned that before and [1:36:25, 1:36:29]: The issue of security and people navigating onto the [1:36:29, 1:36:32]: property uh at off hours or off times. [1:36:33, 1:36:35]: Um, I think is the main thing, but we do have [1:36:35, 1:36:41]: Uh also the the ponds and the and the park like setting that we will have on the amphitheater as well. [1:36:41, 1:36:42]: But I I [1:36:42, 1:36:43]: Yes. [1:36:43, 1:36:45]: We'll seek to address that. [1:36:45, 1:36:46]: Okay. [1:36:48, 1:36:49]: Thank you. [1:36:49, 1:36:50]: Other questions. [1:36:50, 1:36:51]: Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:36:53, 1:37:05]: Let me unmute here. Uh Mr. Knight, I'm trying to remember on the on the park like setting, would this be a pedestrian area also? Would they be able to walk this park or would there be walkways for the park? [1:37:06, 1:37:14]: Right. The intent of all of this and we're gonna talk a bit a little bit more about that and show some graphics in the um uh when we talk about the next item on the on the change order item. [1:37:15, 1:37:21]: But the intent was to take these detention ponds and have them as amenities to allow people to be able [1:37:21, 1:37:27]: To come and sit with certain benches benches and and walking areas in and around the pond so that they could enjoy. [1:37:28, 1:37:34]: the um atmosphere of what would be an additional park, if you will, for the city of Stockbridge, even [1:37:34, 1:37:38]: uh on on off hours. We wanted to really create something that [1:37:39, 1:37:41]: Um was estetically pleasing. [1:37:42, 1:37:43]: And um [1:37:44, 1:37:47]: You know, since we have an opportunity with this particular project, we can create [1:37:48, 1:37:51]: A park type setting in and around the detention ponds. [1:37:51, 1:37:54]: Uh, have them uh very well maintained and manicured. [1:37:55, 1:37:59]: um to be something that uh citizens can uh citizens can enjoy. [1:38:00, 1:38:06]: even on uh amphitheater event nights, but perhaps even different points in time um during the week. [1:38:06, 1:38:10]: Well, uh a follow up to that then I agree with uh Councilman Thomas. [1:38:11, 1:38:14]: What would keep anybody from coming through the vegetation? [1:38:14, 1:38:18]: uh to the park and then walking into the amphitheater doing the shows. [1:38:19, 1:38:22]: If I could answer that, sir, the um amphitheater itself. [1:38:23, 1:38:30]: Around the uh rear parking lot and the main amphitheater walls is contained by a fence. [1:38:30, 1:38:38]: in between each one of those plaza buildings through the openings, it is it's it's not shown yet. [1:38:40, 1:38:53]: But these areas all have uh lockable gates in between each one of these plaza buildings. So nobody should be able to just come after hours and walk into the amphitheater or to that lower parking lot behind it. [1:38:55, 1:38:56]: Then the follow up to that then [1:38:56, 1:38:59]: Because I'm still agreeing with councilman Thomas. [1:39:00, 1:39:03]: someone that's enjoying the part prior to the show. [1:39:04, 1:39:09]: What would keep them from dealing with outsiders that haven't paid to come in to come through? [1:39:10, 1:39:21]: come through the vegetated area into the park to deal to when they think they're coming to a show that's enclosed safe and they've got the park where the show's gonna be, how do we we have to have some type of um [1:39:21, 1:39:29]: enclosure other than vegetation because we have to make sure that we're maintaining a level of comfort and security because all it takes is one. [1:39:35, 1:39:39]: Well, I think when Kirk mentioned some of the other barriers there. [1:39:40, 1:39:45]: Obviously people who are coming into the amphitheater are gonna have to have some type of tiffit ticket. [1:39:45, 1:39:48]: save free events. We're gonna also have to have security there. [1:39:48, 1:39:52]: Um as well. And just just like any other amphitheater. [1:39:52, 1:39:56]: uh project and venue. You're gonna have to have necessary security. [1:39:56, 1:40:02]: uh to be able to keep those who desire to be in in and those who desire who should not be in [1:40:03, 1:40:04]: Um out. [1:40:04, 1:40:13]: Uh so you know, I think the combination of some of the natural and man-made barriers that are there in com in combination with security on site. [1:40:14, 1:40:16]: uh will uh address that problem. [1:40:17, 1:40:19]: Uh and of course with any venue. [1:40:20, 1:40:28]: Uh once you have a couple of events, uh you have data and and information that you can use to address any problems that occur. [1:40:29, 1:40:30]: In the future. [1:40:38, 1:40:47]: Mayor. Yes, sir. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Councilman Thomas. I'm sorry. Go ahead, sir. Yeah. Um Mr. Nine, I I would recommend um [1:40:47, 1:40:51]: To for you and your staff or courage someone to do some research. [1:40:52, 1:40:55]: Um, I'm just a little concerned about that. [1:40:55, 1:40:58]: From the corner of East Atlanta Road. [1:40:59, 1:41:02]: All the way down to Berk Street and around [1:41:03, 1:41:09]: Um I'm not really sure what what all that entails as far as fencing and security, but [1:41:10, 1:41:14]: I would think that there would need to be some type of fencing. [1:41:15, 1:41:18]: From that corner of East Atlanta Road. [1:41:19, 1:41:23]: All the way around around the perimeter, really, all around in the back. [1:41:24, 1:41:26]: All the way up until the um [1:41:27, 1:41:31]: into the to into the the driveway through the gate through [1:41:31, 1:41:32]: Um [1:41:34, 1:41:41]: I'll I'll just leave it at that. If if you could research that and bring some numbers back, but I I just think we're gonna need more than [1:41:41, 1:41:43]: Vegetation and [1:41:43, 1:41:46]: Um security guards, you know. [1:41:46, 1:41:47]: It's [1:41:48, 1:41:54]: Well, right. I I understand and concern and the ones that I've looked at. I looked at one in L Lagrange, visited that one. [1:41:55, 1:41:59]: They had fencing just like Kirk talked about. I think the one in Peace Tree City we went to. [1:41:59, 1:42:03]: had uh similar type fencing between between buildings. [1:42:04, 1:42:10]: Um during off hours. The one thing, and and we'll certainly go back and take a further look at it as the council desire. [1:42:11, 1:42:14]: But the one thing that we we want to balance is [1:42:14, 1:42:16]: uh having an inviting venue. [1:42:17, 1:42:21]: Верси гавни афос. [1:42:22, 1:42:24]: You know, we don't want to create this fortress look. [1:42:25, 1:42:28]: Ін араунди амфітер і Сіті Гал кампас. [1:42:28, 1:42:33]: So it's a balance there, but um given the council comments, we'll go back and take another look at uh the best. [1:42:34, 1:42:37]: Mechanism to use to uh balance security. [1:42:37, 1:42:40]: And also uh ensure it's an inviting venue. [1:42:43, 1:42:45]: Councilwoman Barber, do you have any comments at all, please? [1:42:50, 1:42:54]: Um no, I don't have any comments relative to the прогрес. [1:42:55, 1:42:56]: Or the project. No. [1:42:57, 1:42:59]: Mirable Tim Alexander. I think though. [1:43:00, 1:43:00]: Okay. [1:43:01, 1:43:02]: Um, let me see. [1:43:03, 1:43:05]: Can you hear me? Yeah, go ahead. Yes, we can. [1:43:05, 1:43:15]: Yeah, I just wanna talk about the uh the project um uh overall in terms of uh I l I see uh Kirk indicated that the pavers are down. [1:43:16, 1:43:22]: Is there just a a strip of pavers? I was believing that the entire area was supposed to be pavers. [1:43:22, 1:43:27]: Uh, so that uh residents could actually purchase a brick or something I thought we had discussed. [1:43:33, 1:43:36]: Councilman Alexander, if you can see [1:43:37, 1:43:41]: Over here to the left in front of the West Concessions that [1:43:42, 1:43:45]: Bold gray line that is a paper strip. [1:43:45, 1:43:52]: Here in between the Will Call and the main restrooms, this whole entire area is bordered by gray pavers. [1:43:52, 1:43:55]: And then this center area is also. [1:43:57, 1:43:58]: Favors. [1:43:59, 1:44:02]: Oh okay, okay. Just ca it look it does not okay. [1:44:02, 1:44:18]: And then those paver areas, if you see over here in between the east concessions and the uh main restrooms, that gray paver band is at the top of the steps. And then this lower area here as you enter in out of the city hall parking lot. [1:44:19, 1:44:35]: That area has pavers. Pavers will run all the way out to the street through the on-grade access. And also over here in between the West Concessions and the Will Call, that area also has uh pavers and um [1:44:36, 1:44:37]: concrete walking surfaces in it. [1:44:38, 1:44:38]: So [1:44:39, 1:44:43]: What you're seeing here is probably about fifty percent of the overall paper. [1:44:44, 1:44:50]: So uh the the uh rendering that we saw, there were uh like reddish color. Is there gonna be painting to them or how does that work? [1:44:51, 1:44:56]: Uh we have two different colors, the uh slate gray, and then this um [1:44:57, 1:45:04]: Oh, I forget the actual name of that, but that is a cream color paper there. Um I [1:45:05, 1:45:07]: There weren't any red ones actually specified. [1:45:10, 1:45:21]: Okay. Um okay, and then the um the overall progress and uh completion of the this physical structure here, not inclusive of the part. [1:45:23, 1:45:24]: Uh [1:45:25, 1:45:28]: We're looking um for this section. [1:45:29, 1:45:31]: Early March, I believe. [1:45:34, 1:45:34]: Okay. [1:45:35, 1:45:40]: Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. Uh Councilwoman Gantt, do you have any questions at all? [1:45:42, 1:45:43]: Um, no, I don't. [1:45:45, 1:45:45]: Okay. [1:45:46, 1:45:48]: Kurt, is there anything else you need to present to us today, sir? [1:45:49, 1:45:49]: No, sir. [1:45:51, 1:46:00]: Okay, I believe if there are no more questions, uh thank you, Kurt, uh, for your presentation. Uh yeah, thank you for having me, and I'll turn the screen back over. [1:46:00, 1:46:04]: Okay. And Carl, did you have anything to add during this time frame, sir? [1:46:07, 1:46:09]: Yeah, yes, um [1:46:11, 1:46:31]: Getting close to the end of the project, um, I just would like to um commend the uh uh the contactor and the designers um in pulling together what now uh it's come together as a very uh high quality facility, high quality install installations, constructions and methods. [1:46:31, 1:46:51]: uh and and really great design um and i commend uh uh heather is here with the team and um hj russell re kirk is heading team he's got several of his members here uh just how they've worked together uh community very well [1:46:51, 1:46:55]: well during the project, uh shared ideas, worked through [1:46:56, 1:47:01]: uh difficulties and and challenges and [1:47:01, 1:47:04]: Very good job. Um [1:47:04, 1:47:13]: I've been in blenders of projects over my career and you can really tell when you got working together, has a common talk, uh common goal. [1:47:14, 1:47:21]: uh and they performed very, very well. So I mean all of the team that that's put the effort into bringing this together. [1:47:23, 1:47:25]: Appreciate it. Thank you very much. [1:47:26, 1:47:30]: Didn't know Heather, I know you're online. Didn't know if you had any comments on this particular issue for right now at all. [1:47:34, 1:47:35]: Um [1:47:35, 1:47:36]: Good evening. [1:47:36, 1:47:44]: Um yeah, I would just like to echo uh Carl's sentiments. Um, you know, I think the team has worked very well, very hard. [1:47:44, 1:47:51]: uh together to get to where we are. Uh and I look forward to celebrating with you on opening day. [1:47:51, 1:47:59]: Outstanding. Appreciate that. Follow up, sir. Yeah, go right here, Mary Putin. Uh yeah, the heather who chose the color of this of the papers? [1:48:00, 1:48:02]: Sure, yes, glad to talk about this. [1:48:02, 1:48:05]: Uh, we did talk about it a couple of times through the process. [1:48:05, 1:48:07]: Um there was a want uh [1:48:07, 1:48:10]: for from the council to have red papers [1:48:10, 1:48:11]: Um [1:48:11, 1:48:12]: To [1:48:12, 1:48:15]: We cannot match a vehicle related paver. [1:48:16, 1:48:20]: To the vertical pavers on both the city hall and amphitheater buildings. [1:48:20, 1:48:21]: Um the only [1:48:22, 1:48:31]: vehicle related paver turns out to be a pink paver over time, uh and not wanting your amphitheater to have a clash between kind of the beautiful brick that we're [1:48:31, 1:48:33]: replicating on the city hall. [1:48:34, 1:48:36]: And uh a pink paver. [1:48:36, 1:48:41]: Um the decision was made to do gray and tan, uh, which will allow you to [1:48:42, 1:48:45]: Have food trucks coming into uh [1:48:45, 1:48:48]: the actual uh amphitheater proper. [1:48:48, 1:48:50]: So kind of in front of those boundary buildings. [1:48:50, 1:48:51]: Um [1:48:51, 1:48:52]: So [1:48:52, 1:48:56]: That is why we have the both tan and the gray pavers. [1:48:56, 1:48:59]: It was the best look we could achieve over time. [1:49:00, 1:49:01]: Uh and kind of avoid. [1:49:01, 1:49:02]: Uh a a pink. [1:49:03, 1:49:07]: paper, which would be what we could get out of a vehicle related paper. [1:49:08, 1:49:09]: Okay, thank you. [1:49:09, 1:49:10]: Чу? [1:49:11, 1:49:22]: All right, we'll move on to the next item, council consideration to approve amphitheater change order in amount in an amount of two million three hundred and seventy-one uh thousand nine hundred and twenty-two dollars and seventy-seven cents. [1:49:23, 1:49:26]: financing or funding source with bond and splots five. [1:49:27, 1:49:29]: Mr. Knighton, Kirk, and Carl, please. [1:49:31, 1:49:39]: All right, yes, it would be uh meet, myself, and Carl on this one, uh, mayor and council. Okay, uh, to discuss this item with you. We have provided you with. [1:49:40, 1:49:44]: uh the detailed documents related to uh this proposed change order. [1:49:45, 1:49:49]: This change order uh has arisen as a result of the main parking. [1:49:49, 1:49:51]: And the enhanced landscape. [1:49:52, 1:49:57]: Excuse me, land enhanced landscape design around the detention ponds. As you remember. [1:49:58, 1:50:05]: Uh the soils uh had issues there uh previously, and there's quite a bit of work that had to be done to address unsuitable soils previously. [1:50:05, 1:50:09]: And the increase from I believe it was one detention pond initially. [1:50:09, 1:50:13]: To now three uh detention ponds. And again, as I mentioned earlier. [1:50:13, 1:50:17]: There was a necessity t or there was a thought to go ahead and utilize. [1:50:18, 1:50:21]: those detention ponds as an amenity and create the [1:50:21, 1:50:23]: Environment around them. [1:50:24, 1:50:25]: That would be um [1:50:26, 1:50:28]: Pristine that would be [1:50:28, 1:50:28]: Um [1:50:29, 1:50:30]: Bucalic. [1:50:30, 1:50:34]: А то бил то критик філ. [1:50:34, 1:50:39]: around those detention ponds. And so that is what uh this change order. [1:50:39, 1:50:40]: relates to. [1:50:41, 1:50:45]: Um, I will just go over something very briefly here and then Carl can speak. [1:50:45, 1:50:47]: Uh, to the details of a change order. [1:50:48, 1:50:50]: Um i as as necessary. [1:50:51, 1:50:55]: Um you may recall that uh over a month ago, late December. [1:50:55, 1:50:59]: uh signaled that this is something that was going to come. [1:50:59, 1:51:02]: Uh at that time uh we were working through it. [1:51:02, 1:51:05]: But I knew this would this would item would come. [1:51:05, 1:51:08]: In order for us uh and the c and for the project. [1:51:09, 1:51:11]: To be completed at the level. [1:51:11, 1:51:14]: uh that the uh council uh would like to see. [1:51:15, 1:51:18]: So if I can share screen, I'll attempt to share screen here. [1:51:19, 1:51:20]: Just a moment. [1:51:33, 1:51:35]: What happened here? Let me see. [1:51:36, 1:51:37]: All right, let me see if I can [1:51:38, 1:51:40]: Pull this up. Okay, here we go. [1:51:41, 1:51:43]: All right, can everybody [1:51:45, 1:51:45]: Everybody see that? [1:51:47, 1:51:48]: Just yet. Okay, there we go. [1:51:48, 1:51:50]: Okay, he's got it. Okay. [1:51:50, 1:51:52]: All right, I'll try to um [1:51:54, 1:51:55]: We go. All right. [1:51:57, 1:52:06]: To go through this uh uh very briefly here. Um, what you have here, if you can follow my cursor, of course, here's the amphitheater toward the bottom of the screen. [1:52:07, 1:52:11]: And then you're looking at the park. Here's East Atlanta Road here on the far left corner. [1:52:12, 1:52:13]: And you see all of the parking. [1:52:14, 1:52:20]: It goes back to uh the property line back there at Bryant or the Bryant Street properties that we talked about. [1:52:20, 1:52:22]: So all of this in and around this area. [1:52:23, 1:52:27]: Is proposed to be parking. A part of the parking scenario. [1:52:28, 1:52:30]: Um it once it's constructed. [1:52:30, 1:52:35]: Is to demolish uh this old house uh as you can see right there on my cursor. [1:52:35, 1:52:40]: Um and throughout the um detention ponds, of course, in blue. [1:52:41, 1:52:45]: Um there is um a schematic. [1:52:45, 1:52:48]: That will have uh terraced bioswales. [1:52:48, 1:52:50]: Um wetland walkways. [1:52:51, 1:52:59]: Um, you know, open park space, um, cypress groves, um, and you'll have all of these different things that create. [1:53:00, 1:53:03]: um that park-like atmosphere as well as as you can see [1:53:03, 1:53:06]: trees that line the internal roadway. [1:53:09, 1:53:12]: Go down Mr. Ball. And I'll I'll of course let Heather in [1:53:12, 1:53:17]: Her team speak to this as well as as needed. Here are just some examples. [1:53:17, 1:53:24]: of different types of venues that have uh this one has water features, water features again, and how some of these [1:53:24, 1:53:30]: Um items can uh be uh carefully constructed around water features to create the environment. [1:53:31, 1:53:43]: uh that we want uh and that's something that can be uh really nice uh enhancement for the amphitheater project. You'll see the one on the upper left there and then some of the other examples um through here. [1:53:45, 1:53:52]: At this point I'll turn it over to um uh I guess Carl f or maybe Heather first, since Heather can speak to [1:53:52, 1:53:58]: Uh the He Heather and her team can speak to the enhanced landscaping in and around the amphitheater area. [1:54:01, 1:54:02]: Sure, uh thank you. [1:54:03, 1:54:05]: Um I am going to call on um [1:54:06, 1:54:11]: Peyton Peterson, um, who is our landscape architect, on the phone tonight to talk about the landscape. [1:54:13, 1:54:16]: Sure. Thank you, Heather. Good evening, everyone. Can everyone hear me okay? [1:54:17, 1:54:18]: Yes. Yes. Great. [1:54:19, 1:54:39]: Okay, so Mr. Knighton touched on I think some of the big key elements here, um, just echoing his um conversations. So the the ponds grew in a response to the additional impervious area um that is the parking lot now. So the the pond sizing is now um sized. [1:54:39, 1:54:59]: To handle the impervious runoff that will be coming from the parking lot areas. Some of the key features that were mentioned were the three tiered pond systems. The one that is labeled J, that is more in the center of the screen, right where Mr. Knighton is highlighting, is a continuous wet pond. [1:54:58, 1:55:05]: So in perpetuity, it will always contain water. Um, and it has we are proposing a um [1:55:05, 1:55:12]: Fountain spray in the middle of it that will spray water up in the air. I know you all have seen um are familiar with Sugar Hill. [1:55:12, 1:55:17]: uh amphitheater their wet pond behind their amphitheater. So it'd be a similar look to that. [1:55:18, 1:55:19]: Ponds in [1:55:19, 1:55:23]: Um that are the middle in the lower tier pond next to the existing creek. [1:55:24, 1:55:25]: Or um [1:55:25, 1:55:38]: what we call detention ponds in the sense that they could have water uh in them during a heavy rain event, storm event, um, but they could also during a dry spell have no water contained in the bottom of them. [1:55:38, 1:55:58]: Um there is a network of sidewalk paths that go around the upper and middle pond. Um so there is a loop trail system that is paved that goes around this um this park-like setting. Um and there's the large promenade walk that is up. [1:55:58, 1:56:02]: Up at the very closer to the left hand side of the screen. [1:56:02, 1:56:03]: Um [1:56:03, 1:56:06]: That runs parallel with the [1:56:06, 1:56:08]: Um parking. [1:56:09, 1:56:09]: Up there. [1:56:11, 1:56:31]: is it's a wide pedestrian walkway that will gather the mass amounts of people that are coming to the amphitheater for an event. Um and we also have an overlook um sort of it's number D right there that overlooks the ponds and the uh terrace landscape because this does it does sit on a um pretty dramatic hillside there. So [1:56:31, 1:56:37]: If Mr. Knight flips back to the example images real quick. [1:56:38, 1:56:58]: Thank you. So the the overlook system would be something like you're seeing in this top centered image. We're visioning benches up there, a nice setting where you you can overlook the ponds. Again, uh that first pond that's closest to the overlook in the in the preliminary plane does have water in perpetuity. [1:56:58, 1:57:01]: [7021.7, 7031.1]: And then we're also proposing a um some open lawn space where people could put down a um picnic blanket um if they want to have a lunch out there or whatnot. [1:57:11, 1:57:12]: Um [1:57:12, 1:57:23]: Promenade walk would be wide, similar to what you're seeing in the top left-hand corner. And um these are just some of the main features that we have uh programmed into this space. [1:57:27, 1:57:28]: Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. [1:57:30, 1:57:31]: I don't know. [1:57:33, 1:57:35]: All right. Anything else? Re uh [1:57:37, 1:57:37]: Well [1:57:38, 1:57:44]: Well, Carl could kind of speak to briefly the the change order aspects of things and [1:57:44, 1:57:50]: Um the manner in which um the team went through and scrubbed the numbers. [1:57:50, 1:57:52]: Uh to come to the overall figure. [1:57:53, 1:57:55]: Okay. Um [1:57:56, 1:58:10]: Thank you again, Mayor and Council of Persons. Just real briefly, we have received the pricing that you've uh had presented to you for this. [1:58:10, 1:58:30]: Uh two project uh from Russell. You can see in your package that we received uh quite an extensive breakdown of all the costs of this phase of the project, uh which allowed um designers uh to um [1:58:30, 1:58:39]: Um to uh to really di uh take a deep dive into the the cost of the product to be able to uh as Randy said, rub this. Um [1:58:39, 1:58:41]: Describe the numbers to make sure that we were getting [1:58:42, 1:59:02]: uh a uh competitive number, uh an accurate number for this uh this phase of the project. Um the team has spent quite a bit of time as rubbing these um and just to give you an idea the number uh Kirk provided them to us for this for the project was a little over two [1:59:02, 1:59:03]: point six million [1:59:04, 1:59:24]: uh but through uh verification of quantities, little unit prices, uh perk allowing uh myself and the team to have direct access to the subcontract uh uh we will to um uh to refine the numbers [1:59:24, 1:59:40]: uh to um uh get the scope correct, uh make sure that the subcontractors under scope correctly, uh and that the price of the very work um were uh competitive and met um what uh [1:59:41, 2:00:01]: I and the designers thought uh they should be based on uh our knowledge of the industry through historic cost data. Um so we're uh very pleased with where we've landed on this number. Um I I believe it to be a very competitive number uh and uh and recommending [2:00:01, 2:00:20]: that uh uh the council approved this number so that uh we can get started on this way. Um if you do approve this, I believe Kirk is chomping at the bet to start uh pulling the permits and and get the team over over on the other side of the road, as we say, and uh get started on this second phase. [2:00:20, 2:00:24]: Uh so I'll I'll entertain any additional questions you have about pricing. [2:00:24, 2:00:28]: Thank you, Carl. Appreciate that. Uh Mayor Pro Tem Alexander, go ahead, please, sir. [2:00:29, 2:00:34]: Yes, thank you, sir. Uh real quick on the trails uh in the park. [2:00:34, 2:00:41]: um park area. Are those uh ten foot wide trails, eight foot wide? Tell me what what are those? [2:00:43, 2:00:45]: Inside the park area. [2:00:46, 2:00:49]: Oh sure. Carl, I can take that if you'd like. [2:00:49, 2:00:54]: Yeah, I can think Falcon will be able to design uh answer that and they're not on the call tonight, so uh go ahead. [2:00:55, 2:01:00]: Sure, so the l outer loop uh sidewalk. [2:01:00, 2:01:16]: is a 12 foot wide sidewalk. The promenade that is at the um top of the pond system running adjacent to the parking is wider than that. It's about 15 feet wide uh just because of the sheer number of volume of people that will be accessing it from [2:01:16, 2:01:20]: that promenade ac accessing the amphitheater from that promenade walk. [2:01:20, 2:01:24]: I should also say that that promenade walk is an ADA accessible route. [2:01:25, 2:01:27]: Okay, so the the the the [2:01:28, 2:01:31]: The basically the the box around the park is [2:01:31, 2:01:33]: You said that was uh twelve feet. [2:01:34, 2:01:35]: Yes. [2:01:35, 2:01:37]: Okay, and then the uh [2:01:37, 2:01:39]: Uh bordering the parking lot. That's fourteen. [2:01:40, 2:01:45]: uh feet. Now I see a D marked overlook. Tell me about the overlook. What's [2:01:46, 2:01:48]: Sure, so this um [2:01:49, 2:02:09]: I don't know how familiar if you've seen the site to date, but it's on a big hillside essentially. And the D marker right now is the high point of the pond system. And um we have created an area where it's a wider plaza that would have benches and would serve as an [2:02:09, 2:02:16]: overlook similar to this image that's right this image at the top of the screen. Right here. That's what it would generally look like. [2:02:17, 2:02:17]: Yes. [2:02:18, 2:02:24]: Okay, that would be generally look like. Is there is like the bottom part where that fence switch back to that photo. [2:02:25, 2:02:25]: Yeah. [2:02:26, 2:02:29]: So is that is that No fencing, no fencing. [2:02:29, 2:02:36]: Okay, is there access right there at the p at the at the walk to walk so the w the walking trail would actually border [2:02:36, 2:02:43]: The uh water feature uh right. If I go back here, you see where my cursor is? This is the walking trail. [2:02:44, 2:02:46]: Around [2:02:48, 2:02:51]: And this is the pond in question, but this is the walking trail around the pond. [2:02:52, 2:03:02]: So how in in real how far is that observation deck from the pond? So it's so is there no real sto I guess you'd stop along the trail if you wanted to overlook the water? [2:03:03, 2:03:04]: There's no like real [2:03:04, 2:03:07]: I guess observation deck right over the top of the water. [2:03:08, 2:03:12]: Um, I believe and I don't know off the top of my head. [2:03:13, 2:03:14]: But um I would [2:03:15, 2:03:16]: Just from [2:03:17, 2:03:25]: my my knowledge of the space. I believe it's about sixty feet um from maybe eighty feet from the [2:03:25, 2:03:28]: what's labeled D to that first wet pond. [2:03:28, 2:03:37]: Um it's not quite as far as you think. And the elevation game is actually what is a lot is pretty drastic. So the views you would have. [2:03:38, 2:03:42]: Plenty of ample views not only to this l wet jay pond here in the middle. [2:03:43, 2:03:46]: But all the way down the the park promenade. [2:03:47, 2:03:53]: Okay. E and it's connected to the main roadway there, correct? [2:03:54, 2:03:55]: That's correct. [2:03:57, 2:04:05]: Taken, can I follow up what you were talking about about the distance between D, the observation, and J, the pond? [2:04:05, 2:04:15]: Um that dimension across there is I don't think it's any more than forty feet. I think that's it's a lot closer than than probably what you said, uh Hayton. It's a little bit closer. [2:04:18, 2:04:20]: Thank you for that follow up. [2:04:20, 2:04:21]: Okay. [2:04:21, 2:04:23]: All right, okay, thank you. [2:04:24, 2:04:25]: Any other questions from the council? [2:04:26, 2:04:27]: Mayor. [2:04:27, 2:04:29]: Yeah, yes. Um go ahead, counselor. [2:04:30, 2:04:50]: I just wanted Kirk and and the rest of the team to know that it I'm amazed it's an absolutely beautiful project. And I thank them for trying to get some, you know, some move pretty fast for us considering the weather last year and other things that came in the way. Um I think it's absolutely beautiful. [2:04:49, 2:05:05]: Um I do want mayor and council to you know think and consider, you know, and I remember councilwoman Barber at one point had stated, you know, we need to make sure that we have everything. [2:05:05, 2:05:20]: in order all the numbers together. And so in the future, I just hope that we, you know, we're learning from this project what we need to do to make sure we have everything accounted for. And so I just want to say thanks to everyone who's working so diligently on it. [2:05:22, 2:05:24]: Great job. Council Men Blount, go ahead, please. [2:05:26, 2:05:29]: Uh yeah, I I the um [2:05:30, 2:05:33]: the buffering through from the from um [2:05:34, 2:05:38]: that we're gonna have up, that's gonna help control the noise on uh [2:05:38, 2:05:46]: throughout the uh surrounding communities. And and our second question to that, Mr. Knighton, uh, when we have these events or when we have this [2:05:47, 2:05:51]: So we will have uh sick we would have officers or security [2:05:51, 2:05:55]: That will monitor uh Brian and Lee Street, is that correct? [2:05:56, 2:05:58]: Yes, I absolutely would envision that. [2:05:58, 2:06:05]: Uh, even though of course we have plans to enhance Lee Street and East Atlanta Road to help facilitate traffic flow. [2:06:06, 2:06:11]: uh in and around the area. I think it would be absolutely imperative on event nights to have. [2:06:11, 2:06:31]: uh police officers uh there at key intersections to make sure traffic flows in and out. Of course, one of the things that we learned was which is important is customer experience. And we want to be able for customers to access the venue 3000 plus, to be able to get in and out safely as well as to exit in an expeditious fashion and do it safely. [2:06:31, 2:06:34]: So absolutely yes. [2:06:34, 2:06:44]: Yeah, I'm I'm and I'm looking more more uh at a at a combination of traffic control and and security. Right. [2:06:44, 2:06:47]: uh provision or security for the communities'cause uh [2:06:47, 2:06:50]: You know, you just want that to be put in place. Thanks. [2:06:50, 2:06:51]: Okay. [2:06:51, 2:06:53]: Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [2:06:55, 2:07:01]: Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Um, considering this was a project that was already approved prior to me. [2:07:01, 2:07:03]: Um I just want to make sure that we finish it. [2:07:04, 2:07:07]: Um I do have some questions, but I know that [2:07:07, 2:07:09]: Mr. Carl [2:07:09, 2:07:11]: Um, Trevithan, I'm sorry. [2:07:12, 2:07:14]: I don't know his name. Is he still on? [2:07:14, 2:07:23]: Yes, Carl is on. Yes. Okay. Um, so he has taken a look at this change order, this$2.3 million change order. [2:07:23, 2:07:28]: Yes, absolutely. And several times and several times and several times. [2:07:28, 2:07:34]: And members of uh the team as well. And I I can I'll certainly let him speak to that, but uh to make sure [2:07:34, 2:07:40]: This number was scrubbed over and over again. I think he alluded to the fact that originally it started out over two point six million and now it's down to [2:07:41, 2:07:46]: two point three in chain. So it's probably two hundred and fifty thousand to three hundred thousand dollars saving over the last [2:07:47, 2:07:48]: I guess month or so. [2:07:48, 2:07:54]: month and a half or so as we were looking at the numbers over and over again. But I certainly would would defer to him to to confirm that. [2:07:55, 2:08:15]: Council Barber, um, as I mentioned when I first started that the package we were used for the change order uh has several sever lots of paid numbers of costs and quantities that uh were provided to us by the contractor and and and his subcontractors uh for the purpose, exact purpose that you're talking about. [2:08:15, 2:08:16]: Well [2:08:16, 2:08:24]: I and the designers could really take a deep dive into the costs, uh, not taking them at all for face value. [2:08:24, 2:08:40]: but rather given us um as much cost and quantity data as we could get so that we could compare that to what we believe cost should be based on historical cost data or just our general knowledge of the industry. [2:08:40, 2:09:00]: Um I can't speak for the other people of the team, but I have thorough years of experience from anywhere as a general contractor and as a development man that have been exposed to it have accumulated uh years and years and years of cost data and have used that knowledge and the and that uh cost data. [2:09:00, 2:09:20]: that I have uh to uh compare these numbers and scrub them. And I know the the designers have done the same thing just to make sure that um we understand the cost. We've made numerous adjustments to it from the original cost. And again I'll I'll commend Kirk and his team [2:09:20, 2:09:40]: for allowing uh us direct access to the subcontractors. And we met with some of them and went through uh all in detail what Chris is concerned about today and made the investments so that we could bring uh the cost in line with what we think it should be, so that the quantities uh are [2:09:40, 2:10:00]: correct that the subcontractor understood the scope of the work correctly. Uh it took us uh I don't know Kirk you might be able to speak I think it was six to seven weeks of back and forth to get these numbers to where they're at. And so it was a real team effort and and and I'm presenting my [2:10:00, 2:10:10]: recommendation to you because I have myself and have seen the team really take the deep dive necessary to make sure we've scrubbed this number back down to where it's a very competitive [2:10:11, 2:10:14]: number and and um should be considered by council. [2:10:14, 2:10:31]: Okay, so I do have um a couple of follow-up questions. So I was looking at some of the line items on here and one in particular was the last line item, line 31 that mentions a fee of 4%, that's$91,000. [2:10:32, 2:10:36]: It doesn't give a description of what that covers. Sure. [2:10:36, 2:10:39]: That is contractors profit. [2:10:39, 2:10:55]: Um so everything except the ninety-one thousand is cost that contract has that he's going to expend uh to do the project. So the ninety-one thousand is his profit to uh to do the project. And and I'll say this, four cents. [2:10:55, 2:11:00]: Razor thin for a contractor to be working on as far as margins go. So um [2:11:00, 2:11:02]: That's what that number's for. [2:11:02, 2:11:05]: Okay, so the 700 and [2:11:07, 2:11:11]: Sixty thousand dollar change order that was submitted or did Mr. Knight and leave. [2:11:12, 2:11:21]: I just had a question about a change order for unsuitable soil that was submitted earlier this year. Right. That is separate from this change order, correct? [2:11:21, 2:11:23]: That is correct, yes. That is correct. [2:11:23, 2:11:31]: So this$2.3 million change order, um, I know this only covers just a portion. [2:11:31, 2:11:46]: Uh this is phase two, only covering the parking and landscaping design. How much more do you think you will need to complete the construction of the entire amphitheater, including the parking lot? [2:11:46, 2:11:50]: The ponds, the landscaping, how much more? [2:11:50, 2:12:07]: Right. That that includes all of this. And I'll let Carl speak more definitively because believe me, I have some questions. Is this going to be enough to do all of this? Okay. In in there, there is a couple of contingencies. I'll let Carl speak to a couple of contingencies if we were to run into something. [2:12:07, 2:12:12]: But he called I asked him a direct question and Carl is here. He can he can confirm that. [2:12:12, 2:12:18]: Is this enough and will this take care of it? Are you comfortable telling the council that this will take care of these items? [2:12:19, 2:12:39]: Well, I think we need to uh I think we're totally talking about two separate things that I discussed with Randy. Um, because I have done and Randy didn't tell me if we are prepared to share these tonight, but I've done a kind of a deeper dive into the project. Um you know, all phases of the project and where we're at with [2:12:39, 2:12:45]: With with other change orders and other other cost issues that we've run into and have come up with a separate number. [2:12:46, 2:12:54]: uh that I believe and feel comfortable with that uh the the total project can be completed with and that number has contingencies in it. [2:12:54, 2:13:02]: This number that I'm asking for you to approve or that we're proposing to prove to approve tonight at 2.3 million. [2:13:02, 2:13:22]: the initial change order to the contractor to do uh the phase two part of the project so it's a it's a portion of the bigger pie that you're that you're alluding to um there i i think you've got to look at that the other set of numbers that i have have worked up for uh for you uh to look [2:13:22, 2:13:37]: look for the contingencies that would uh would be there in case we run into things that are unforeseen. Um sort of the additional costs that would be above and beyond this 2.3 million. So and Randy I'll I'll let you lead how much [2:13:37, 2:13:43]: You know, we we would want to uh get into this discussion on my overall projection for the project. [2:13:45, 2:13:47]: I was trying to pull that. I was trying to pull that. [2:13:49, 2:13:51]: Because I know that um so [2:13:52, 2:13:57]: Covering this change order, this this one specifically, the 2.3. [2:13:57, 2:14:12]: We're using um SPLOS and bonds to cover the threat. Okay. So I know that we um agreed to allocate the seven million dollars to complete the amphitheater. I'm just trying to see. [2:14:13, 2:14:22]: Right. I think right. I think I understand your question. I'm sorry, uh, Councilman Barber. Okay. So this change order two point three, then we allocated or what is proposed. [2:14:22, 2:14:25]: is seven million dollars to bond, okay. [2:14:25, 2:14:32]: So we've got that seven million dollars. And then remember there's three million dollars out there, just about three million dollars. [2:14:32, 2:14:33]: Or [2:14:33, 2:14:38]: the roads, the enhancement of the roads. Okay. And so when you put [2:14:38, 2:14:40]: Those funds together. [2:14:40, 2:14:56]: Um, is where we're we're we're trying to get to in terms of the overall number to bond. And I and Ed'll talk a little bit more about that piece of it when he gets when he gets there. Um, if there are any issues with respect to, for instance, the roads coming in. [2:14:56, 2:15:03]: at more than might be projected or or um allocated, if you will, because we don't know until we put it out. [2:15:03, 2:15:05]: To beard of what [2:15:05, 2:15:07]: Funds we would propose to use. [2:15:08, 2:15:09]: For that type of overage. [2:15:11, 2:15:12]: Which would be splashed fire. [2:15:14, 2:15:14]: Okay. [2:15:15, 2:15:27]: Okay, one last question. So um as it pertains to the equipment such as the sound systems, any other equipment that we're gonna need. [2:15:27, 2:15:35]: Will we be using money from fund balance for that, or will we be using the money from the bonds that we're requiring? [2:15:36, 2:15:41]: Okay, let me um and I'll let Heather mention this as well. Let me uh'cause we actually had this conversation. [2:15:42, 2:15:45]: А со не ампітетер і цел. [2:15:45, 2:15:48]: The vertical construction part, everything that you've approved. [2:15:49, 2:15:55]: Uh includes um the general speaker systems, the house lighting systems. [2:15:55, 2:15:56]: Um [2:15:57, 2:16:08]: uh includes the kitchen equipment that you saw um in the um uh green room um it includes let me see here uh [2:16:10, 2:16:15]: Things like the the really it and includes of course the seating that you saw, the fixed seating and all of that. [2:16:15, 2:16:18]: throughout the lower portion as well as the um [2:16:18, 2:16:19]: The uh [2:16:20, 2:16:22]: VIP section toward the back. [2:16:23, 2:16:27]: What really the equipment cost would be would be if [2:16:27, 2:16:31]: Uh uh what would be the furniture, for instance, for the green room. [2:16:31, 2:16:33]: Movable furnicer. [2:16:33, 2:16:36]: would be a cost that would have to be incurred. [2:16:36, 2:16:46]: if we were going to uh uh that would be a cost that'd have to be incurred movable type furniture not the fixed furniture that you're seeing the base the house lighting and a speaker system are included. [2:16:47, 2:16:49]: For some thрі театрика продукції, for instance. [2:16:50, 2:16:51]: Um [2:16:51, 2:16:52]: V [2:16:53, 2:16:56]: particular band or particular [2:16:56, 2:17:03]: um theater company, they may bring in some enhanced lighting or enhanced speaker system. [2:17:03, 2:17:10]: And that's fair, as I understand it, that's fairly common in the industry if they wanted to have something in addition to that. And I would ask Heather to [2:17:10, 2:17:12]: To speak to that as well. [2:17:14, 2:17:14]: [8236.5, 8238.5]: Oh, I'm sorry. [2:17:18, 2:17:19]: Yes. [2:17:19, 2:17:22]: Uh uh Mr. Knightness is correct. So [2:17:22, 2:17:23]: Um [2:17:24, 2:17:26]: Fixed equipment, uh [2:17:26, 2:17:27]: Fixed, you know. [2:17:27, 2:17:29]: Your dishwasher uh [2:17:30, 2:17:32]: You sinks, um [2:17:32, 2:17:34]: Equipment in the kitchens. [2:17:35, 2:17:35]: Um [2:17:36, 2:17:40]: Are all fixed items are all provided, so it's really movable furniture. [2:17:41, 2:17:44]: desk and chairs, uh folding chairs. [2:17:44, 2:17:46]: Things of that sort that have not been included. [2:17:47, 2:17:48]: Um the amphitheater. [2:17:48, 2:17:51]: is coming with a basic speaker system. [2:17:52, 2:17:55]: uh as well as the ability to do [2:17:55, 2:17:58]: uh kind of talking head productions so [2:17:58, 2:17:58]: Uh [2:17:58, 2:18:03]: you know, very easily you can hook in a mic and you know have a city function. [2:18:04, 2:18:04]: Um [2:18:05, 2:18:05]: For [2:18:06, 2:18:08]: Things that might be community theater. [2:18:08, 2:18:15]: uh that you might do with partners in the community, you may want to supplement what is already in place. Uh there is [2:18:15, 2:18:17]: ways that this can be kind of [2:18:17, 2:18:18]: A beefed up. [2:18:19, 2:18:19]: Um [2:18:19, 2:18:26]: So but that would be, you know, discussions between community partners and the city as far as other pieces you want to supplement. [2:18:26, 2:18:31]: Uh but there is basic lighting in place as well as uh audio uh and sound. [2:18:33, 2:18:34]: Okay. [2:18:35, 2:18:35]: Thank you. [2:18:36, 2:18:38]: Castleman Blount, go ahead, please. [2:18:39, 2:18:41]: Uh yeah, just real quick, um [2:18:42, 2:18:52]: This is one of the you know, the questions that are being asked are good uh uh excellent questions to get information. Uh one of the things that we s we don't know, we don't know what the cost of uh [2:18:52, 2:18:58]: the movable equipment's gonna be and we don't know what the cost for the demolition and the building of the uh ticketing office. [2:18:59, 2:19:07]: And this is one thing that I have continued to petition this council to do, that we all get the information we need to make sound decisions when it comes to this amphitheater. [2:19:08, 2:19:11]: Uh when we're talking about binding that we're gonna have on the [2:19:11, 2:19:31]: agenda uh shortly when we talk about bunding, get all the information to make sound decisions because then we get into the project and next thing you know, we're getting change orders or we're getting other information that should have been understood prior to the project going forward. What what is it going to truly cost us and sustainability for uh the Cultural Arts Center? We don't know that. [2:19:32, 2:19:35]: What is truly gonna be the cost of sustainability for the police department? [2:19:36, 2:19:37]: We don't know that. [2:19:38, 2:19:50]: But then we come on here and we we look at change orders, we look at this. Now is not the time to get information. We need that information prior to these projects. So hopefully moving forward, we'll get all the information we need. [2:19:51, 2:19:53]: And the in in in the in the uh [2:19:53, 2:20:02]: If even if there's potentially uh other costs that are unforeseen, like uh unsuitable soils, uh situations and and whatever. [2:20:02, 2:20:06]: That those things that be presented to us, that those potentials [2:20:06, 2:20:07]: can happen. [2:20:07, 2:20:11]: uh prior to moving projects forward. [2:20:12, 2:20:15]: And so right now we're at a point now where we need to know. [2:20:16, 2:20:30]: information pertaining to millions that are being spent on projects so we can feel comfortable about this decisions. Well at least me, I can feel comfortable about the decision I'm making when it comes to uh the taxpayers' money. [2:20:30, 2:20:35]: Uh and and so this is why I wanna have us to get all the information. [2:20:36, 2:20:37]: That we need. [2:20:38, 2:20:44]: Rather than sit on this phone and we'll spend all night asking questions, these are the type of questions should we should have had answers to. [2:20:45, 2:20:46]: Before now. [2:20:46, 2:20:48]: To have a clear understanding of what [2:20:48, 2:20:51]: I don't think there's one council member on here that ever built the amphitheater. [2:20:52, 2:20:53]: Not one. [2:20:53, 2:21:07]: So we rely on the professionals, we rely on our city manager, we rely on those people we've hired. All of you all, we rely on you all to give us the information and come uh and culminate the information together, give it to the city manager, he disseminated to us. Now we got understanding. [2:21:08, 2:21:12]: We're asking questions right now in an amphitheater that's supposed to be completed in June. [2:21:12, 2:21:15]: And we still have question, why this? Why is that? [2:21:15, 2:21:19]: Why is this? And these are knowledgeable things that was already for [2:21:19, 2:21:22]: i in everybody mind could be potentially could happen. [2:21:22, 2:21:26]: And those are the things that I'm talking about, even moving forward with other projects. [2:21:27, 2:21:31]: The direction of the city, the the council needs to have information to make sound decisions. [2:21:32, 2:21:38]: on future projects instead of us just throwing millions and millions out there and then say, hey, we're in it now. Let's keep going. [2:21:38, 2:21:43]: That's what I'm saying. Let's let's go ahead and get all the information needed and then we move forward. [2:21:43, 2:21:46]: Not get millions together and then say, Hey, let's figure it out later. [2:21:48, 2:21:53]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander stand by for a second stand by for a second. Councilman Thomas, do you have any comments, sir? [2:21:59, 2:22:08]: You're you're still doing let me get off of mute. Uh no, I I I do not. Um, you know, I I I could say a couple of things about the process and [2:22:09, 2:22:12]: how we all got started, but you know. [2:22:12, 2:22:15]: I I I I just hold my [2:22:16, 2:22:19]: understanding of how we sort of got where we are. [2:22:20, 2:22:22]: Uh, even with the amphitheater, you know. [2:22:24, 2:22:27]: I'm okay. I I I just hold on to that. [2:22:27, 2:22:47]: I appreciate it. And I appreciate everybody's work on this, all the contractors and and the project managers and of course H.J. Russell and company and Kurt. And this is this is definitely a game changer for us here in Stockbridge. It's the catalyst for our redevelopment of a downtown area. Obviously, this is the first amphitheater in Henry County, the largest one in the South Metro area. [2:22:47, 2:23:01]: So this is just great, it's a great thing. And um and I really appreciate everybody's effort and appreciate the council's effort to continue to move things forward in this aspect. And uh we'll all be proud of this project. And it's all done. We're proud of it right now as well. [2:23:02, 2:23:04]: Remember Tim Alexander, sir. What's on your mind? [2:23:04, 2:23:07]: Uh thank you, Mayor. And you you kind of hit it right there on the head. [2:23:08, 2:23:21]: This project is gonna make all of us proud and literally this will be the best park probably on the south side of Atlanta, period. And because it'll be so beautiful and it it is a best in class project. [2:23:22, 2:23:24]: Uh as Councilwoman Gantt indicated, this [2:23:24, 2:23:27]: This right here is something that really will [2:23:27, 2:23:28]: Uh make us all proud. [2:23:29, 2:23:33]: But let's clarify one thing, you know, as a realtor as a realtor. [2:23:33, 2:23:37]: I do understand, you know, there are certain things and you have to maybe have to go [2:23:38, 2:23:41]: through the process and understand and let me break it down to you like this. [2:23:42, 2:23:45]: When you buy your house, it does not have any furniture in it. [2:23:46, 2:23:46]: Okay. [2:23:47, 2:23:48]: It has light fixtures in it. [2:23:49, 2:23:52]: That's the term that we use in real estate. It's called fixtures. [2:23:52, 2:23:55]: If it's permanent, you cannot take it out of the house. [2:23:56, 2:24:08]: Generally, that's considered to be a fixture. Construction, when you're doing a project, that's the estimate you're getting. You're getting estimate on just like when you're buying a house, you're moving into it empty. [2:24:09, 2:24:27]: If you decide to do any changes to it, or you decide to change the ceiling fan, or you decide to do a better speaker system, or you decide to do a skylight and all of that, all of that, you know, those are considered that again, that would be a fixture. But in terms of um [2:24:28, 2:24:46]: your your furniture, your dining room table, your bedroom, or anything that you put in the house, just imagine the day that you walked into your new house and you were getting ready to close. That's what we're gonna be able to do on the amphitheater and the cost that will be captured will be just like walking into a brand new new construction home. [2:24:47, 2:24:51]: And I and I certainly understand, I appreciate Kekin Wood. [2:24:51, 2:25:06]: I mean, this is what we brought them on board for was to scrub the numbers and to go down line by line. And if our professional tells us that, you know, really he just told us that really they were working on very slim margins and a slim profit. [2:25:07, 2:25:09]: In order to move this project forward, so [2:25:09, 2:25:12]: Without further ado, I make a motion to accept the staff's [2:25:13, 2:25:15]: Recommendation to move forward. [2:25:15, 2:25:20]: uh with this project as described after due diligence completed by the staff. [2:25:21, 2:25:22]: I think it [2:25:22, 2:25:24]: Okay, Council Woman Gantt second that. [2:25:25, 2:25:31]: It's my assumption that there's no more further comment on this. I do want to make a a statement really quick. [2:25:31, 2:25:34]: Go right in. Yes. I just just for the public. [2:25:34, 2:25:38]: The amphitheater was a project that was approved prior to me being elected. [2:25:39, 2:25:43]: Actually it was one of the very first things that I asked for when I came on board. [2:25:43, 2:25:45]: I wanted to look at the contract. [2:25:46, 2:25:47]: What I learned from that was [2:25:48, 2:25:58]: The fifteen point six million dollars only covered the structure of the building. Right. I began asking questions about that then. I believe Councilman Blount was the one who told me I need to read. [2:25:59, 2:26:01]: When I explained to him, I read. [2:26:01, 2:26:04]: I read, that's how I knew it only covered the structure of the building. [2:26:05, 2:26:08]: So ever since then I've been asking questions. [2:26:09, 2:26:13]: I don't over rely on staff to provide me with information. [2:26:13, 2:26:16]: I want to do my own research and due diligence. [2:26:16, 2:26:19]: It was me. [2:26:20, 2:26:23]: um carl um well second [2:26:24, 2:26:27]: Um if we can get everybody to mute. [2:26:27, 2:26:33]: their microphones so that I'm clear when I'm speaking. I see Councilman Blount has his mic off. [2:26:34, 2:26:37]: Hearing some shuffling in the background, I just want the public. [2:26:37, 2:26:39]: To be aware of where we are. [2:26:40, 2:26:43]: In being transparent about the cost of this amphitheater. [2:26:44, 2:26:47]: I'm asking these questions because I I want to know. [2:26:48, 2:26:50]: How much more is it going to take to complete it? [2:26:51, 2:26:55]: Yes, this is um the project that we can learn from. [2:26:55, 2:26:57]: The amphitheater, we've been [2:26:58, 2:27:07]: Um, I've been seeing change orders after change orders for this project, and I just want to see or know where the end is in sight. [2:27:07, 2:27:08]: That's all. [2:27:10, 2:27:13]: Okay, thank you. Uh Councilwoman Gantt uh go ahead, please. [2:27:14, 2:27:25]: Thank you, Mayor. I actually earlier when I made a statement in regards to crisis, it was to basically state that there are certain things that we are not aware of. [2:27:25, 2:27:26]: Um [2:27:26, 2:27:35]: After thinking about it, I spoke with the city manager and our city attorney when we first talked about um having to do a new change order. [2:27:36, 2:27:50]: We've already talked about incidental things that pop up during construction, right? So these things have happened before where you don't know if something has unsuitable soils or a junkyard or some trash buried. You just won't know. [2:27:50, 2:27:55]: Um but this particular item, now that it's been brought up. [2:27:56, 2:28:05]: We actually changed this after the bids, after we had a a whole plan. We had one plan to have one lake, one pond. [2:28:06, 2:28:11]: Right. And once we started began the project, they realized that they needed two additional. [2:28:12, 2:28:25]: And then they said, well, let's make it really nice and make it like a park, a pathway and a walking. So all this was done not before our plan has always been the same plan. We just enhanced it after the bid. [2:28:25, 2:28:38]: So just so you know, there's no um mishaps or mistake being made in regards to the plans of the project. This happened after the project had been completed. [2:28:38, 2:28:41]: The plans that we made. Just so you know. [2:28:41, 2:28:42]: Okay. [2:28:42, 2:28:45]: Just one block. Go ahead, please. [2:28:45, 2:28:47]: I I just want to say this, you know. [2:28:47, 2:28:53]: All the work everybody's doing on this project is is totally 100% appreciated. [2:28:53, 2:28:58]: Uh I think that the amphitheater looks top of the line. It's a beautiful edifice and uh [2:28:58, 2:29:01]: Uh it's beautiful, and I thank everybody for doing this. [2:29:02, 2:29:07]: I would only say that when you call my name out and it's in a negative tone, I'm not gonna get into that foolishness. [2:29:07, 2:29:10]: So I'll let Councilwoman Barber have that to herself. [2:29:11, 2:29:15]: But I would say on a professional level, thank you all for the work that you all are doing. [2:29:15, 2:29:23]: And uh, you know, we definitely, definitely appreciated the attention and the to detail that you all are putting in this project. And uh we will enjoy it. [2:29:24, 2:29:29]: All right, so we have uh we have a motion on floors is been seconded. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:29:30, 2:29:33]: One, two, three, four. So now it's decision. Fantastic. [2:29:34, 2:29:54]: Fantastic, Carl. Way to go. All right. Okay, now Council consideration to approve the Stockbridge Public Facilities Authority Taxable Revenue Bond Public Amphitheater Project to be issued in the amount of$7 million and the use of SPLOS 5 and revenues to pay all the or portion of the board debt. [2:29:54, 2:29:57]: debt service. Ms. Knight and Ms. Wall, please. [2:29:59, 2:30:03]: Yes, thank you, Mayor. As we've been talking about these items throughout the course of the evening. [2:30:04, 2:30:05]: Uh it all uh [2:30:05, 2:30:09]: culminates in uh the bond issuance proposal. [2:30:09, 2:30:17]: uh for the mayor and council to consider. And uh I'll let uh Mr. Wall and of course Mr. Shelby is on as Selby, excuse me, is on as well. [2:30:18, 2:30:20]: uh to walk through um the [2:30:21, 2:30:21]: Um [2:30:22, 2:30:23]: Framework. [2:30:23, 2:30:28]: of the bond issuance which you are being asked to consider and potentially approve. [2:30:29, 2:30:34]: In conjunction with the earlier item related to the p the police department startup costs. [2:30:34, 2:30:37]: Uh they'll fold that into uh their discussion as well. [2:30:39, 2:30:44]: Thank you. Um Mr. Knighton, could I share my screen? Is that okay? I'm gonna share the memo that uh you had sent. [2:30:47, 2:30:48]: Is that okay? [2:30:48, 2:30:50]: Yes. Yes, sir. Go right ahead. That'd be fine. [2:30:54, 2:30:56]: If uh I T oh there we go. [2:31:02, 2:31:02]: Can you see that? [2:31:03, 2:31:04]: Yes. [2:31:05, 2:31:08]: So tonight, Mayor and Council, we have before you um [2:31:09, 2:31:10]: Three bond issues um [2:31:11, 2:31:12]: The amphitheater. [2:31:12, 2:31:13]: Um [2:31:14, 2:31:16]: The cultural arts center and the trails. [2:31:16, 2:31:20]: And we have uh added to the cultural arts art center. [2:31:20, 2:31:21]: Um [2:31:21, 2:31:22]: Um [2:31:27, 2:31:28]: Plus [2:31:29, 2:31:30]: Three million. [2:31:30, 2:31:32]: For police equipment. [2:31:35, 2:31:37]: Wanted to go down the page if I could. Um [2:31:38, 2:31:40]: The amphitheater. [2:31:40, 2:31:46]: Just to bring everybody's memory back, we had five million allocated from the general fund fund balance. [2:31:47, 2:31:48]: We had six million three. [2:31:49, 2:31:49]: From um [2:31:50, 2:31:54]: The uh Splosh four regions bank account, if we all remember that. [2:31:55, 2:31:56]: And so we had um [2:31:57, 2:31:58]: Eleven million three for that. [2:32:00, 2:32:02]: Keg and Wood had sent us um [2:32:03, 2:32:04]: A line item. [2:32:04, 2:32:05]: For the [2:32:05, 2:32:09]: Construction of the amphitheatre saying that we would need a total of nineteen million. [2:32:10, 2:32:12]: eight hundred and seventy five thousand three hundred to finish that. [2:32:13, 2:32:14]: Um [2:32:14, 2:32:15]: I would like to [2:32:15, 2:32:17]: Uh go to that real quick. [2:32:17, 2:32:18]: We can see it. [2:32:20, 2:32:22]: This was the fifteen million eight. [2:32:23, 2:32:26]: That uh Councilman Barber, Councilwoman Barber had talked about. [2:32:27, 2:32:28]: Here were the change orders. [2:32:30, 2:32:30]: Um [2:32:30, 2:32:32]: The one that you approved tonight. [2:32:33, 2:32:36]: And so it's nineteen million eight seventy five total. [2:32:36, 2:32:39]: He had put a two hundred thousand dollar contingency in there. [2:32:41, 2:32:44]: So we have to fund nineteen miljon eight seven five. [2:32:46, 2:32:47]: I'll go back to page one. [2:32:48, 2:32:50]: We had the five million. [2:32:50, 2:32:52]: Uh coming from um [2:32:53, 2:32:54]: The general fund. [2:32:54, 2:32:58]: The six million three from the Splos Four Regions bank account. [2:32:58, 2:33:03]: And this seven million dollar bond issue will produce six million eight hundred and twenty five thousand for construction fund. [2:33:04, 2:33:06]: So I have eighteen million one twenty five. [2:33:07, 2:33:11]: Take that from Kekinwood's estimate of what we need to finish the amphitheater. [2:33:12, 2:33:14]: We're a million seven fifty short. [2:33:15, 2:33:17]: We have that three million dollars. [2:33:17, 2:33:20]: In the splost four money that's in the Sun Trust bank account. [2:33:21, 2:33:24]: We're gonna use some of that for roads. [2:33:24, 2:33:25]: So [2:33:25, 2:33:27]: If we use that three million [2:33:28, 2:33:33]: finish funding this million seven fifty, it'll leave a million two forty nine for roads. [2:33:33, 2:33:41]: To the extent you need more money for roads, you have four million five hundred and ninety thousand in the SPLOS five project list. [2:33:42, 2:33:43]: I'll take you to that real quick. [2:33:50, 2:33:53]: This was intergovernmental contract we had with Henry County. [2:33:53, 2:34:03]: Y'all remember we had 20,525,000 available from Splosh 4 that we would collect in a four-year time period starting April one of this year. [2:34:04, 2:34:12]: We had nine million eight thirty-six for civic buildings, civic projects and buildings. We're gonna take all of that for the amphitheater and the cultural arts center. [2:34:13, 2:34:16]: And so while the cultural arts center is fourteen million. [2:34:16, 2:34:25]: We're gonna take two million eight thirty-six of this number and fund it with spLOS so that the bond issue that's gonna be paid for from the general funds as small as possible. [2:34:25, 2:34:28]: Then you have road projects here that could help you. [2:34:29, 2:34:30]: Uh if you need it. [2:34:30, 2:34:33]: And then we have water to sewer projects, we have park improvements. [2:34:35, 2:34:36]: Go back. [2:34:40, 2:34:41]: The annual payments. [2:34:41, 2:34:42]: Um [2:34:42, 2:34:45]: For bond debt service is gonna be made from Sploss. [2:34:45, 2:34:46]: Five. [2:34:53, 2:35:01]: The general fund's only gonna the general fund's only gonna be responsible for operations and maintenance costs if a private management company doesn't provide that. [2:35:02, 2:35:17]: So as we talk about what the general fund's gotta pay tonight, I'm I'm assuming zero for the amphitheater, assuming that it'll that it will be funded by itself from a private management company. If that's not the case, then we'll have to add money from the general fund to carry the operation and maintenance cost. [2:35:18, 2:35:27]: The amphitheater though, the capital costs are going to be fully funded by all these other revenue sources, of which we've limited the amount from the general fund to the five million dollars that y'all know about. [2:35:31, 2:35:33]: So let's look at splash five. [2:35:33, 2:35:35]: Here were the various projects [2:35:35, 2:35:36]: Categories that we had. [2:35:38, 2:35:42]: We took five hundred thousand from roads. [2:35:43, 2:35:44]: For the trails. [2:35:44, 2:35:46]: And five hundred thousand from parks. [2:35:47, 2:35:53]: So we're barring a million dollars to start the trail work now that'll come from those two categories. [2:35:56, 2:35:57]: The Cultural Art Center. [2:35:57, 2:35:59]: Was fourteen milyen dollars. [2:36:02, 2:36:09]: S staff directed TSW to bring you back a building that fit that budget. [2:36:09, 2:36:10]: And nothing more. [2:36:12, 2:36:19]: Staff assumed seven million dollars for the amphitheater will come from splash five. That'll leave the two million eight thirty six. [2:36:20, 2:36:23]: From splash five to go toward the cultural arts center. [2:36:24, 2:36:27]: So we've got to do a bond issue for eleven million one sixty three. [2:36:28, 2:36:30]: It'll be paid for from the general fund. [2:36:30, 2:36:32]: So the bond issue [2:36:32, 2:36:37]: for the amphitheater and the trails is just a four year bond payable from the four year splost. [2:36:38, 2:36:40]: This eleven million one sixty three. [2:36:40, 2:36:42]: Would be a fifteen year bond issue. [2:36:43, 2:36:50]: And so a 15 year bond issue, I had it at 2.3%. We've been in negotiations with Sun Trust. [2:36:50, 2:37:03]: They came in at 2.25. It's five basis points lower than what you all would have gotten if you had gotten a double-A credit rating and sold bonds in the credit markets. So I'm going to recommend to you tonight that we do a private placement with the Truest Bank. [2:37:04, 2:37:05]: The rate there is two point two five. [2:37:06, 2:37:13]: And annual payments instead of being nine hundred and eighty thousand and nine hundred and seventy-two thousand because of that lower interest rate. [2:37:14, 2:37:20]: And then I figured that the O and M cost for the Cultural Arts Center would be about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [2:37:20, 2:37:28]: I just picked that number. I don't know whether it'd be a hundred thousand or three hundred thousand, but the general fund would have to pay the OM cost on the cultural arts center. [2:37:28, 2:37:38]: So the general fund's gotta be at a million one hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars. Um, and it's of course it's eight thousand dollars less, so it'd be a million one hundred and seventy. [2:37:38, 2:37:44]: And then we talked earlier tonight about the three million for the public safety, for the police equipment. [2:37:44, 2:37:53]: We're gonna amortize it over seven years and just add it to this$11 million bond issue, but instead of a 15-year maturity, it'll be a seven-year maturity. [2:37:53, 2:37:58]: And that'll add five hundred and thirty-five thousand dollars to that number to come from the general fund. [2:37:58, 2:38:03]: Splosh five didn't include um public safety, so we can't use Splosh five for that. [2:38:05, 2:38:06]: Exhibit D. [2:38:08, 2:38:08]: Um [2:38:09, 2:38:26]: contains a revenue and expense report from the general fund where you had had uh extra amount for five hundred and three thousand. I heard Councilman Alexander tonight say that Mr. Wiggins initial uh uh indications for your fiscal year twenty twenty, the year ended December thirty-first, twenty twenty. [2:38:27, 2:38:28]: We provide a million three. [2:38:29, 2:38:30]: So that's [2:38:31, 2:38:32]: You all [2:38:32, 2:38:33]: don't have a property tax. [2:38:34, 2:38:39]: And you're trying to avoid leaving a property tax, but it would appear that that we might have to have one in the future. [2:38:40, 2:38:40]: Um [2:38:41, 2:38:45]: I noticed that each one mill raises nine hundred and fifty-six thousand dollars. [2:38:46, 2:38:52]: I heard somebody tonight say that three point six mils is what we have in the SDS with Henry County. [2:38:53, 2:38:59]: for the for for police. So three point six mils on that is three point four million dollars. [2:38:59, 2:39:03]: That you would have available if you started your own police force. [2:39:04, 2:39:04]: Um [2:39:05, 2:39:08]: And not have a any kind of property tax increase on the citizens. [2:39:10, 2:39:13]: And I haven't read the UGA report. I don't know if that's enough to cover it or not. [2:39:14, 2:39:15]: And then [2:39:16, 2:39:17]: The conclusion. [2:39:17, 2:39:19]: Tonight before Mayor and Council. [2:39:19, 2:39:21]: Would be a motion second. [2:39:21, 2:39:25]: To issue twenty twenty one A bonds for full year maturity. [2:39:25, 2:39:27]: One point three two percent. [2:39:28, 2:39:29]: For nine million nine ten. [2:39:30, 2:39:31]: That's the amphitheater. [2:39:32, 2:39:35]: And it is the um one million dollars in trails. [2:39:35, 2:39:38]: two million eight thirty six for the cultural arts center. [2:39:39, 2:39:41]: And then it would be um [2:39:41, 2:39:44]: I'm sorry, just the cultural arts center and the amphitheater. [2:39:44, 2:39:46]: Just a cultural arts center right here. [2:39:46, 2:39:47]: And the amphitheater. [2:39:48, 2:39:52]: Twenty twenty one B bond issue is a four year maturity at one point oh four. [2:39:53, 2:39:55]: The difference in this is these are taxable. [2:39:56, 2:40:01]: So the IRS doesn't give you a lot of squirrely regulations and how you conduct business there. [2:40:02, 2:40:04]: But the uh trails are tax exempt. [2:40:05, 2:40:08]: So the rate's a little bit lower for the tax exempt bonds. [2:40:08, 2:40:12]: And then twenty twenty one C is a fifteen year maturity. [2:40:12, 2:40:15]: At two point three four percent, the fund of cultural arts center. [2:40:15, 2:40:17]: We're gonna add to it the police. [2:40:19, 2:40:20]: With a seven year maturity. [2:40:24, 2:40:24]: And um [2:40:25, 2:40:27]: Again it's two point two five percent. [2:40:30, 2:40:31]: Any questions? [2:40:32, 2:40:34]: Yeah, Councilman Blount. [2:40:34, 2:40:38]: And has a question. I think this is a great presentation by the way, Mr. Wall, but [2:40:38, 2:40:39]: Councilman Bon, go ahead, please. [2:40:39, 2:40:47]: Thank you for your presentation, Ms. Wild. First of all, that 3.6 million with the county right now, it wouldn't be a total rollback because [2:40:47, 2:41:01]: Uh there still would be uh services be some services being provided if that would be the case uh for for as any tax taxes that would if if it would fall upon the citizens, it wouldn't be a full 3.6. [2:41:01, 2:41:05]: uh roll it wouldn't be a full three point six rollback on that. [2:41:05, 2:41:07]: Uh when you look at [2:41:07, 2:41:08]: The bonding that we're doing. [2:41:09, 2:41:11]: The decision that are being made tonight. [2:41:12, 2:41:14]: The monies that would hit the general funds. [2:41:15, 2:41:18]: Uh obviously our budget is going to be expanded. [2:41:19, 2:41:29]: And when you talk about um the monies that we're that we're not using tonight toward the amphitheater, when you talk about the binding of millions to the uh cultural art center. [2:41:29, 2:41:34]: And now toward the the three million toward the police department, I think we're talking about twenty five million. [2:41:34, 2:41:36]: How does the city [2:41:36, 2:41:44]: sus uh sustain itself through the interest rates that need to be paid through the bond payment, uh uh through the b through the uh [2:41:45, 2:41:46]: through the bond payments. [2:41:46, 2:41:53]: with the budget that we have right now, with the lost revenue that we're getting, how do we sustain ourselves through this right here? [2:41:56, 2:41:58]: Um each year when you do your budget. [2:41:59, 2:42:00]: You [2:42:00, 2:42:02]: You don't have a property tax. [2:42:02, 2:42:03]: But [2:42:03, 2:42:06]: For you to bite all this off, you're likely to have a property tax. [2:42:07, 2:42:08]: So so right now. [2:42:09, 2:42:26]: There's no clear path on how the city could sustain itself without a property tax through what we're headed down to right now with twenty trying to bond twenty five million dollars tonight, getting the information we're getting from you. So what in the world are we doing tonight? [2:42:27, 2:42:28]: That's my question. [2:42:29, 2:42:31]: As our financial advisor [2:42:32, 2:42:34]: You don't even see a clear path for us. [2:42:35, 2:42:42]: financially without a property tax, yet we're getting ready to agree to twenty five million dollars in bonds. [2:42:42, 2:42:53]: that now we sustainability now has to be put in place afterwards instead of having a a forethought of sustainability before we make the decision. This is what I'm talking about. [2:42:54, 2:43:05]: It makes no sense. I'm a citizen before I'm a before I'm an elected official. I became an elected official because I'm a citizen. And when I see that these types of decisions are getting ready to be made. [2:43:05, 2:43:21]: It is gonna harm the city, put us in an emergency situation that we now gotta tell the people, hey, we gotta hurry up and tax you because we don't know how to sus uh sustain ourselves, because we got millions that we're putting in the bank for project that we're not even ready to do on right now, but it's gonna be a startup for them. [2:43:21, 2:43:23]: What kind of stuff is that? [2:43:24, 2:43:25]: I'm not for that. [2:43:25, 2:43:31]: I'm not for putting the city in that that type of predicament from you as a professional and our in our uh uh [2:43:31, 2:43:37]: to be our uh uh financial advisor and you cannot even give us a clear path on how we would fund that. [2:43:43, 2:43:43]: At um [2:43:44, 2:43:48]: Airport Tim Alexander, you you're lit up there. Are you ready to say something there, sir? [2:43:48, 2:43:50]: You take this off the screen, please. [2:43:51, 2:43:52]: Yes, sir. [2:44:03, 2:44:05]: You know, the citizens elected us to lead. [2:44:05, 2:44:06]: That's what we're doing. [2:44:07, 2:44:11]: We're moving forward with what we need to do in order to set the path straight. [2:44:11, 2:44:12]: For the city of Startbridge. [2:44:13, 2:44:15]: Each and every year we generate [2:44:15, 2:44:18]: About a million dollar overage every single year. [2:44:19, 2:44:21]: It's in it it it is. [2:44:21, 2:44:27]: In in in our best interest to move forward with these projects with the lowest possible interest rate now. [2:44:28, 2:44:29]: You know, honestly. [2:44:29, 2:44:31]: I I I I don't I [2:44:31, 2:44:33]: Mr. Wall made that a session. [2:44:33, 2:44:43]: I'm s I'm still not there yet. I don't think Mr. Wall can tell us that we're gonna need to have a property tax. I see the city of Hampton has a police department. They don't. [2:44:43, 2:44:47]: I see the city of Locust Grove have a police department. They don't. [2:44:47, 2:44:54]: In the end, there may be a certain there may be one. But you know what? I'm not ready to stay there yet. I'm not ready to go there. [2:44:55, 2:45:06]: Because in the end, when I can see a million dollars being generated every single year and seven to eight thousand people are moving to my county, that number keeps moving up each year. [2:45:06, 2:45:11]: Since I when I started on this council, our budget was eight point six million. [2:45:12, 2:45:19]: What in in and today is born in almost it's tw it's twelve, right? So close to twelve. So or actually over twelve. But we [2:45:20, 2:45:38]: Those numbers grow. The path is right there already now, right? It continues to move north, starting at 8.6, went up a million, went up another million, went up another million. And as we go along, we do have substantial projects. [2:45:39, 2:45:45]: in budget, in place, to understand that commercial growth is growing right and left. [2:45:46, 2:45:49]: And they can't build the houses fast enough. [2:45:49, 2:45:52]: for people to move to Henry County. [2:45:52, 2:45:57]: We understand that what is going on even in the midst of the pandemic. [2:45:57, 2:46:01]: We had record tax collection, not just tax collection. [2:46:02, 2:46:03]: Record. [2:46:04, 2:46:04]: Loss [2:46:05, 2:46:09]: collections and they continue to do that and they continue to search. [2:46:10, 2:46:14]: The one you know what you know what those record loss numbers tell us? [2:46:15, 2:46:34]: They tell us that the splot is going to be over. It's going to be over collected. That's what's going to happen. So when the loss tax is up and it's showing us that the spLOS numbers are up, so those splots categories that we have set aside for roads and civics projects, those numbers are going to be up also. [2:46:35, 2:46:41]: Because they collect a tax on sale. Those are sales tax base as the loss of sales tax base. [2:46:41, 2:46:45]: So in the end, what we're gonna continue to do is [2:46:45, 2:46:46]: Mark the payer. [2:46:46, 2:46:50]: You know, with all due respect to my colleague, Mr. Blount. [2:46:50, 2:46:59]: He's been serving with us now for the last five and a half years. He's voted against every last one of the projects that we move all one almost all of them. [2:47:00, 2:47:02]: I I I you know if if [2:47:03, 2:47:06]: We continue to go down this path. [2:47:07, 2:47:14]: Of punting every time. Let's wait, let's wait, let's wait, let's wait. How long are we going to keep waiting? [2:47:15, 2:47:28]: The reason that we have all these excess funds is the council bef the councils before us did not roll out a lot of projects, okay? Because there was a lot of confusion going on in the city, a lot of different [2:47:29, 2:47:37]: Curves and switches, but guess what? This council is focused on walking and chewing gum at the same time. [2:47:38, 2:47:41]: What does that mean? We can do more than one project. [2:47:42, 2:47:43]: Out of time. [2:47:43, 2:47:45]: That's what we're attempting to do tonight. [2:47:46, 2:47:51]: And understanding, I believe a tea splass is going on the b on the ballot. [2:47:52, 2:47:52]: In November. [2:47:53, 2:47:56]: So if the T splass goes on the ballot in November. [2:47:56, 2:47:58]: And the T-SPLOST actually passes. [2:47:58, 2:48:01]: That's an additional twenty million dollars that [2:48:01, 2:48:03]: We can expand. We can't count it yet. [2:48:03, 2:48:06]: But we already know that that's going on the b on on on the books. [2:48:07, 2:48:09]: And the revenue continues to increase. [2:48:10, 2:48:13]: For us to move forward with these particular projects. [2:48:13, 2:48:14]: Let us not [2:48:14, 2:48:16]: Live in fear. [2:48:17, 2:48:21]: How long are we gonna keep scaring the citizens and saying instead of leading? [2:48:22, 2:48:24]: We can lead with courage. [2:48:25, 2:48:28]: God told me to step out on faith and lead the city. [2:48:28, 2:48:33]: Not wallow in pity and worry about what elder the skies falling. [2:48:34, 2:48:36]: I'm not gonna worry about the sky falling. [2:48:37, 2:48:39]: We're gonna lead the city forward with vision. [2:48:39, 2:48:45]: And be one of the greatest counsels to ever serve in the city of Stockbridge. That's our charge. [2:48:47, 2:48:48]: Catherine Blount, please go ahead. [2:48:50, 2:48:50]: Yeah. [2:48:51, 2:48:52]: The city of Ham you know. [2:48:52, 2:49:00]: Well you know, when when when Councilman Arizona and Councilwoman Barber wanted to throw John Blount name in there, that's fine. I'm just not gonna get caught up in that mess. I'm gonna [2:49:00, 2:49:03]: I've grown over the last four years. I don't get caught in that mess. [2:49:04, 2:49:19]: But one of the things about the city of Hampton, they sell utilities. We don't. One of the things about Locust Grove, they have a big, big area called Tanger Outlet. So their lost incomes is definitely coming in. Their loss uh local options sale tax money is definitely coming in. [2:49:20, 2:49:24]: We can't compare ourselves to other cities when it comes to decision making. [2:49:24, 2:49:27]: A decision should be made when facts are present. [2:49:28, 2:49:33]: This is why we're asking so many questions and stayed on the phone over an hour, almost an hour and a half or more. [2:49:33, 2:49:36]: talking about the amphitheater because we didn't have enough facts. [2:49:37, 2:49:41]: And that's what we're doing right now. We're making decisions without facts. [2:49:41, 2:49:48]: All I want is facts. And if that makes me an out if that makes me an a a outside person, then so be it. [2:49:49, 2:50:03]: But I cannot vote without facts. And when we have a paper, a person that we paid on this line, our financial advisor, financial advisor, not another council member. He's our financial advisor. [2:50:04, 2:50:09]: And we say, well, I'm not gonna go with what he says. We are not fine, that's not our expertise. [2:50:11, 2:50:12]: If that's not a path. [2:50:12, 2:50:17]: To how we fund projects through our financial advisor, if that's not a path. [2:50:18, 2:50:26]: Through how we have sustainability with our projects, then why would we listen to one another that's elected rather than the professionals that we're hiring? [2:50:28, 2:50:36]: That's what we elected to do. Hire the right people in place to tell us the best path and things to do that we're not expert in. [2:50:38, 2:50:48]: And s but we're not even gonna listen to them because we think that we're leading. No, no, we're finding out putting ourselves in a position where we're playing we're playing Russian roulette with the taxpayers' money. [2:50:48, 2:50:52]: In the city of Stockbridge because we have no facts. [2:50:54, 2:50:56]: Councilman Thomas, do you have any comments at all, sir? [2:51:02, 2:51:03]: Let me get off mute. [2:51:04, 2:51:05]: Um, you know [2:51:07, 2:51:08]: One thing I I don't do. [2:51:09, 2:51:10]: Um [2:51:11, 2:51:16]: I don't go around and round in public like this. I I don't do that. I can have opinions. [2:51:16, 2:51:18]: But I I don't do that. Um [2:51:20, 2:51:24]: You know, I'm I'm ready to to to vote. You know, folks already know. [2:51:24, 2:51:28]: um you know where they want to go with this. [2:51:28, 2:51:31]: Um I I I just don't I just [2:51:32, 2:51:35]: I I believe in a healthy discussion. [2:51:35, 2:51:40]: But I don't believe in throwing folks under the bus. I don't believe in calling folks' names. Um [2:51:41, 2:51:49]: We knew that these issues were coming. Uh, we could have had discussions at any time. I don't know why we always want to wait. [2:51:49, 2:51:59]: until we had come to the council meeting to do this. Uh we all knew that these issues on the agenda. We all all had our agenda booked. We knew it was going to happen. So [2:52:00, 2:52:05]: I'm saying is, you know, we vote or we don't vote, but I'm not gonna sit here and and and [2:52:05, 2:52:09]: you know, just go around and around like this. Uh it just [2:52:09, 2:52:11]: It it just not healthy in my book and so [2:52:12, 2:52:13]: Um [2:52:13, 2:52:15]: You know, I'm I'm ready for the vote. [2:52:16, 2:52:20]: Um, I agree one thing I do agree with, and I've said this before too. [2:52:20, 2:52:22]: When it comes to staff [2:52:23, 2:52:27]: When it comes to people that we have to give us advice. [2:52:27, 2:52:29]: А дедуай. [2:52:30, 2:52:31]: In providing [2:52:32, 2:52:35]: information and doing the research. [2:52:35, 2:52:36]: And bring us numbers. [2:52:37, 2:52:40]: Uh, we have to make decisions, and we make decisions. [2:52:41, 2:52:45]: And I understand about you know uh a tax or no tax. [2:52:45, 2:52:46]: Um [2:52:47, 2:52:50]: There was a tax in Star Grid before. [2:52:50, 2:52:52]: Uh, it's not the end of the world. [2:52:53, 2:52:55]: Um, but again, um [2:52:56, 2:52:58]: I'm ready to go forward. Um [2:53:00, 2:53:03]: You know, I'm just I'm just you know I'm just disappointed. [2:53:04, 2:53:10]: Uh somewhat in this. I and I I say this all the time, and I don't like to say it in public like this, but [2:53:10, 2:53:12]: I I just don't believe in this kind of [2:53:13, 2:53:13]: Um [2:53:14, 2:53:31]: discussion with counsel. Uh we all knew this was coming. So if you want to have these discussion, um, you know, call each other, you know, say what you want to say on the phone, uh, on your own time and and and and bring these kind of things out. But to come here. [2:53:31, 2:53:34]: And see who can get the last word. [2:53:34, 2:53:36]: Uh who can now get [2:53:37, 2:53:40]: It it just rubs me the wrong way. Um [2:53:40, 2:53:43]: So mayor, if you would, you're the presiding officer. [2:53:43, 2:53:44]: Um [2:53:44, 2:53:51]: And if Mr. Walls and Mr. Knight wanna just have a closing statement on this, let let just go ahead and um [2:53:52, 2:53:59]: You know, someone want a table, you know, you you do that. But but for us to keep going around and around and around and around. [2:54:00, 2:54:20]: I I I don't believe in that. So Mr. Fair, I I think just just go ahead and let's let's make some decision. Stand by stand by stand by one second, please. Hold on. I want to make sure that uh wanna make sure I get the ladies in here. Wanna make sure to be equal here. If they if you have any you already heard what uh councilman Thomas mentioned, everybody else's comments. So uh uh Ms. Scant, do you have a comment? [2:54:19, 2:54:22]: comment do you want to make for the betterment of uh good of the discussion? [2:54:23, 2:54:35]: Thank you, Mayor. Um, I have heard the comments. My own again, my statement stands. Um I look but I think we all look forward to [2:54:36, 2:54:38]: Getting all these projects up and running. [2:54:38, 2:54:39]: We do. [2:54:39, 2:54:40]: Um [2:54:40, 2:54:44]: I think that, you know, interest rates are low with bonds. [2:54:45, 2:54:46]: Right. [2:54:46, 2:55:03]: I I don't think they in government bonds, the municipal construction bonds, they don't really go high. Right. There was a spike last March for like two point seven percent, but they don't go high. They're between one point zero and two point seven or or whatever the case may be. [2:55:03, 2:55:05]: I my biggest concern right now. [2:55:06, 2:55:07]: Is [2:55:08, 2:55:10]: Let's say for instance the art center. [2:55:11, 2:55:20]: I'm excited about the art center, just as excited about what we did with the amphitheater and and for that matter, our senior and youth center, what I consider a community center for everyone. [2:55:22, 2:55:30]: My only concern is where are the numbers? We just this$14 million for the art center, particularly. [2:55:30, 2:55:44]: Um, kind of just like the police department in 2014, 2015, the police department, there was a study done by the Smith Welch and White firm that said the estimated startup for the police would be five between four to five million dollars. [2:55:45, 2:55:48]: Now Reed just voted on three million dollars. [2:55:48, 2:55:53]: Um now in in regards to this, we have 14 million dollars for a [2:55:53, 2:55:54]: Art Center. [2:55:56, 2:55:56]: And [2:55:57, 2:56:01]: You know, w the last numbers I saw at one point were like twenty seven million. [2:56:02, 2:56:06]: So are we just throwing numbers out and then say [2:56:06, 2:56:17]: Are we going to be hypocritical about it and say, oh, we need to get all the costs. We need to know what we're bidding, what we're bonding out, such as the amount that we bonded for the amphitheater. [2:56:17, 2:56:20]: Um, even though that was a different scenario. [2:56:21, 2:56:27]: Are we going are we gonna try to get those costs? Now normally some states. [2:56:27, 2:56:31]: And s even some places in Georgia get a [2:56:31, 2:56:35]: Upfront preemptive cost analysis done. [2:56:36, 2:56:38]: on how much it would take for a project to be complete. [2:56:40, 2:56:46]: I'm not against bonding anything. I don't want to push back any more projects. I don't want to hold up anything. [2:56:46, 2:56:48]: But I feel like [2:56:50, 2:56:55]: I represent Marnart Village. I feel like I represent the city of Stockbridge. I feel like I represent [2:56:56, 2:57:07]: The people when making an educated decision on just throwing some money out there and bonding and not knowing how much something really is going to cost. So when that bond starts. [2:57:08, 2:57:12]: To start when we start making payments, we're accruing interest. [2:57:12, 2:57:20]: I'd rather know the cost up front, regardless if it was 27 million dollars to bond or 30 million, than to piecemeal this. [2:57:21, 2:57:24]: Um, I think it's a poor choice for us. [2:57:25, 2:57:34]: I am not against the projects. I believe in progress. I believe in being progressive, but I also believe in being a professional and doing things in the right manner. [2:57:34, 2:57:45]: Right now, not one of us can tell you that it's gonna cost us$14 million or close to that to build an art center, not with all the amenities and bells and whistles that we would like. [2:57:46, 2:57:54]: And so I ask that we we make we um I would personally want to make a motion to table this until we got some concrete numbers. [2:57:55, 2:58:05]: Well actually we I won't have to just stand by a second. Councilman Barber, uh you have you have any comments? Uh one last comment or so here. Anything, nothing, you're good? All right. So what's on the [2:58:06, 2:58:25]: Gentlemen, I mean, uh, I don't know how far we're gonna go with this. We have a potential pro situation here where we need to have a motion one way or the other. But what I understand is that seven million dollars when what Mr. Uh Mr. Wall outlined some additional things there. So obviously we need to make sure we have the motion right, whatever we we plan to do. [2:58:26, 2:58:35]: Yeah, Mayor I'm sorry, Mayor, and I'll I'll yield to um perhaps Mr. Seldy or Mr. Wall. I think if you want to consider [2:58:36, 2:58:39]: All of these bonding items, if that is the pleasure of the council. [2:58:40, 2:58:45]: It can be done, I believe, in one vote. Is that right, gentlemen? In one resolution. [2:58:45, 2:58:47]: That would capture all of this. [2:58:48, 2:59:00]: As the amphitheater, cultural arts center, and the trails, all encompassed into one vote and one resolution that would address all of the bonding matters as Mr. Wall outlined. [2:59:02, 2:59:02]: Okay. [2:59:03, 2:59:04]: Is that correct, gentlemen? [2:59:05, 2:59:07]: It it is sir. Did you want to add the [2:59:08, 2:59:11]: The police stuff to the same resolution. [2:59:12, 2:59:12]: Mayor. [2:59:12, 2:59:15]: That would be the that would be the one item that would need to be formally added. [2:59:16, 2:59:21]: Mayor, I would like to do it separately because I'm gonna vote for one bonding item, which is the amphitheater. [2:59:21, 2:59:24]: But I'm not going to vote for things that are unknown. [2:59:26, 2:59:26]: Okay. [2:59:28, 2:59:30]: All right. It could be done that way as well, I suppose. [2:59:31, 2:59:32]: Yes, sir. [2:59:32, 2:59:33]: Okay. [2:59:34, 2:59:46]: Okay, so um all right, so we need a couple different uh uh motions here if we're gonna do it that way. So can I share my screen? Yes, go ahead. Mayor go ahead, please. [2:59:59, 3:00:05]: Mayor I'm sorry. Do we make a decision to take them all uh separately? I believe we should vote for them all together. [3:00:07, 3:00:14]: Well just go ahead, stand by, please. Uh Members, go ahead, Ed, while you you show the screen, so you want to explain something to us here. [3:00:15, 3:00:22]: So we could it like Councilman Alexander, you could take it all at once or you could take them individually. What you're approving [3:00:22, 3:00:24]: Are these three things here? [3:00:25, 3:00:26]: And um [3:00:26, 3:00:29]: You'll you'll need to decide if you want to add [3:00:29, 3:00:30]: Police [3:00:30, 3:00:31]: to um [3:00:31, 3:00:32]: T to number three. [3:00:33, 3:00:34]: Plus police. [3:00:36, 3:00:36]: And [3:00:36, 3:00:38]: It's two point two five percent. [3:00:40, 3:00:40]: So I've got [3:00:41, 3:00:42]: one point three two [3:00:43, 3:00:44]: For the amphitheater. [3:00:44, 3:00:46]: And a small portion of the cultural arts center. [3:00:47, 3:00:48]: We've got uh [3:00:50, 3:00:55]: A 21B, which is a four-year maturity at 1.04% for the trails. [3:00:55, 3:01:02]: And then we got a C issue, which is a 15-year maturity for the Cultural Arts Center and police at a seven-year maturity. [3:01:05, 3:01:25]: Okay, and I I would think that the suggestion would be that uh and I've that's my p personal opinion here, that we take three separate uh motions here for three separate issues and make sure we we track the the total number, what what whatever the council has to say on that, and then we'll do it three different ways. And that way maybe that that'll help s some simplify things, I would think. Is my thought. [3:01:25, 3:01:30]: process anyway. Yes, okay okay, no problem. Yes, Ms. Clerk. Yes. [3:01:30, 3:01:41]: Mayor, um Miss Gantt um mentioned in her comments a motion to table. I need to know was that just a suggestion or was that an actual motion that she wants to put on the table? [3:01:42, 3:01:55]: I don't know if she can hear you. I don't know what the what she wanted to do with it. No, we we have to vote on certain issues. So I I only wanted to table those like the Cultural Arts Center that we don't have any information on the cost. [3:01:56, 3:01:58]: That's all. We're bonding for [3:01:59, 3:02:01]: But so I'll I'll hold off on tabling. [3:02:02, 3:02:06]: Thank you. So so what I think would probably be helpful with [3:02:07, 3:02:20]: We got three different issues, three different different motions I think we can make, approve or disapprove, and uh with the numbers that are that are on the screen, and then that will probably help solve. [3:02:20, 3:02:22]: Yes, yes, sir. Alrighty, please. [3:02:23, 3:02:26]: Are you you talking to me, Mayor? I thought you didn't you just call my name? [3:02:27, 3:02:31]: Yeah, I I wanna make a motion to go ahead and the money is for the amphitheater that we need to complete. [3:02:32, 3:02:36]: complete this project. I think what was it the seven million, Mr. Knighton? [3:02:36, 3:02:38]: That we will be approving for that. [3:02:41, 3:02:50]: Yeah, yes, that's correct. Well, I'd like to make a motion to go ahead right ahead and we'll deal with the other to go ahead and approve the seven million for the uh completion of the amphitheater. [3:02:51, 3:02:51]: A second. [3:02:53, 3:02:55]: All right. Now [3:02:55, 3:03:11]: If that okay it's been made motion been made in a second, but if we if we approve that, how does that affect these other things with with uh series twenty-one A, B, and C, 2021 A, B, and C. Mayor, this all this came in, Mayor. Uh this is this is uh stuff that was added on and discussed. [3:03:12, 3:03:16]: The the amphitheatre is an ongoing project. And so my thing is because [3:03:16, 3:03:21]: The the other issues are in litig uh it is kind of being litigated between us. [3:03:21, 3:03:26]: But what one thing we I think we all agree with we need to f bring the money forward and finish this amphitheater. [3:03:27, 3:03:27]: Okay. [3:03:28, 3:03:32]: All right. All right. I'll tell you what. So we got a we have a uh uh [3:03:32, 3:03:39]: A motion on the floor for seven million for an amphitheater completed been seconded. All in favor of that uh motion, please indicate. [3:03:41, 3:03:47]: One, two, and wait is a setup uh is that the unanimous unanimous? [3:03:47, 3:03:48]: Uh [3:03:49, 3:03:53]: But but you're you you're you agree with that? [3:03:55, 3:04:02]: Well, what it amounts to, we're gonna have to put it back up in just a second though. We can take it up now, but you have to come put it back to to go through the rest of these things. Well [3:04:04, 3:04:10]: All right, so the reference is seven million dollars. Most of the made in second. So all in favor of that for the amphitheater, seven million. [3:04:12, 3:04:12]: Yeah. [3:04:12, 3:04:14]: Maybe and Miss Barber. [3:04:18, 3:04:24]: I have five oh mayor. Okay, five of because I couldn't for somehow I couldn't see everybody. All right. Uh stand by. [3:04:33, 3:04:52]: All right. Anyway, so um, all right, now, well, that's the amphitheater. So that passed five oh in reference to seven million to fund the amphitheater. Now those the the the issue deals with everything else in reference to um what Mr. Walls has presented based on uh conversation we had. Yes, Mr. Blount. [3:04:53, 3:04:56]: Mayor I like the motion that we uh table. [3:04:57, 3:05:12]: other two items to get more information. We I I think we all want this to happen. I just want the council to get more information before making this decision. So I would like for us to table this to get more information and we all make the decision to do what we need to do. [3:05:13, 3:05:16]: All right. Is yes the motion is there b is there a second? [3:05:17, 3:05:18]: High second. [3:05:18, 3:05:19]: Mm-hmm. [3:05:20, 3:05:40]: Any more discussion? I would imagine we had enough discussion. So all in favor of mayor, I just wanted to ask Mr. Knighton, do we even have a final design on the art center or a a final cost or any kind of cost or or anything before we vote on something that we don't do we have a final of anything? Do we have any type of idea of what this is gonna cost us? [3:05:40, 3:05:41]: Right now. [3:05:42, 3:05:45]: As of right now, yes we do. However [3:05:46, 3:05:52]: Council dictated fourteen million dollars. So that's what we're gonna give you. And we're working with T we're working with TSW. [3:05:53, 3:05:55]: To winnow that down. [3:05:55, 3:06:00]: to 14 million dollars. Well can you give me the actual cost right now that what you have? [3:06:01, 3:06:03]: On one second. [3:06:03, 3:06:04]: Mm-hmm. [3:06:06, 3:06:10]: Again, that that is based on a different scenario. [3:06:11, 3:06:12]: Let's see. [3:06:16, 3:06:23]: Uh like it was twelve million change for a building and two million change for furnishings, wasn't it? [3:06:24, 3:06:25]: Well that was the [3:06:26, 3:06:32]: Stand stand by, uh uh Mayor Protestant. Stand by. Let let these gentlemen finish out this com piece of this conversation here. [3:06:32, 3:06:38]: The the latest iteration that I have as of last week when we're trying to work with TSW. [3:06:39, 3:06:41]: To bring the cost down was a major [3:06:42, 3:06:43]: Um [3:06:43, 3:06:46]: uh cost of fourteen point three seven eight [3:06:47, 3:06:48]: However [3:06:48, 3:06:53]: With bond insurances, fees, escalation, design contingency. [3:06:53, 3:06:58]: Um and all of that, that number is eighteen point four nine one on that building. [3:06:59, 3:07:01]: Again, I want to emphasize. [3:07:02, 3:07:05]: Council said a building of 14 million dollars. [3:07:05, 3:07:10]: So that is what I'm working with TSW to do is a$14 million building. [3:07:10, 3:07:30]: Exactly. All the Does that include that so that includes the ballroom and all the other things that we wanted at the time, minus the museum. I know that might be one of the things taken out, but these the indefinites, does it include the main things that we wanted? Because remember, we got rid of the Ted Strickland Community Center, you know, where people are [3:07:30, 3:07:31]: able to congregate. [3:07:32, 3:07:44]: So my question is, does it include a place for to meet the ballroom and everything else? Yes. Because we okay, it does. Let me let me make sure and Heather is on here. Yes, it includes the ballroom and the um [3:07:45, 3:07:46]: The um [3:07:48, 3:07:49]: The theater, of course. [3:07:49, 3:07:53]: So so if I can just interject, if you don't mind, Mr. Knightman. [3:07:54, 3:07:55]: Sure. Um [3:07:55, 3:08:02]: So TSW early on did a rough order of magnitude cost, which showed a large swing. [3:08:02, 3:08:04]: uh guesstimate. [3:08:04, 3:08:06]: Between two numbers. [3:08:06, 3:08:07]: Um [3:08:08, 3:08:10]: We've since then just in the last month. [3:08:11, 3:08:15]: uh worked with an outside consultant, um A D E [3:08:15, 3:08:16]: Uh [3:08:17, 3:08:18]: uh consulting. [3:08:18, 3:08:22]: that specializes in construction cost estimating. [3:08:22, 3:08:24]: Uh and they just in the last week. [3:08:25, 3:08:27]: Have come back with an estimate which [3:08:27, 3:08:29]: Mr. Knighton is referring to. [3:08:29, 3:08:29]: So [3:08:30, 3:08:36]: Um that estimate is based on the concept that you have seen, which includes a museum. [3:08:36, 3:08:37]: Um [3:08:37, 3:08:39]: The art gallery, the ballroom. [3:08:40, 3:08:41]: Uh the the um [3:08:42, 3:08:48]: theater uh and all of the the kind of bells and whistles that have been requested to make that a full functioning theater. [3:08:49, 3:08:50]: What about land? [3:08:50, 3:08:58]: Uh that includes site development as well. So um and those hard costs are what uh Mr. Knighton is referring to. [3:08:58, 3:09:03]: Those are the um eighteen point five million dollars. So [3:09:03, 3:09:06]: Uh to get down to a fourteen [3:09:06, 3:09:09]: million dollar project, we will have to cut from that. [3:09:09, 3:09:10]: Um [3:09:10, 3:09:14]: program. Uh we have to pull out uh fourteen million. [3:09:14, 3:09:17]: Um so that can be uh in [3:09:18, 3:09:21]: site uh that can be in program in the building. [3:09:21, 3:09:23]: Uh, but we will need to cut to get down. [3:09:23, 3:09:27]: to a a project that can be built under fourteen million. [3:09:28, 3:09:29]: And you say [3:09:30, 3:09:31]: Right now we're at eighteen. [3:09:32, 3:09:35]: Yeah, eighteen point five in in round numbers. [3:09:35, 3:09:39]: Um and Mr. Knighton, of course that didn't have time to get in your packets. Uh [3:09:39, 3:09:41]: Uh for this evening. [3:09:41, 3:09:45]: Um, I'm sure he'll share that detailed cost estimate with you. Uh [3:09:45, 3:09:46]: Uh soon. [3:09:47, 3:09:51]: Including parking, including the features from the application and everything. [3:09:52, 3:09:52]: Correct. [3:09:53, 3:09:55]: Uh it includes demolition. [3:09:56, 3:09:58]: Паркін вегетація. [3:09:58, 3:10:02]: Outside as well as um you know all the fixed furnishings inside. [3:10:03, 3:10:04]: Of course, again. [3:10:04, 3:10:06]: Movable furniture is not included. [3:10:07, 3:10:07]: Okay. [3:10:10, 3:10:11]: Airport Tim, go ahead, please. [3:10:12, 3:10:17]: Yeah, I guess yeah, okay. Um this is what I'm saying here, okay. [3:10:17, 3:10:21]: Mayor, you yourself stood in front of this building. [3:10:21, 3:10:24]: In twenty sixteen or twenty seven with a sledgehammer. [3:10:24, 3:10:37]: That's right. Knocked it down. We promised the citizens that this building was coming back up. It's 2021 and the lot is still empty. Yet we're saying wait. [3:10:39, 3:10:56]: That's why the citizens lose confidence in us when we tell them we're gonna execute a project. We told them in 2016 and 17, we got a new art center coming. What happened? It's 2021. They don't believe us because we don't follow through. This is exactly it. [3:10:57, 3:11:02]: The Carrie Mae Hambrick Cultural Art Center needs to go up. [3:11:02, 3:11:16]: And people need to have confidence. We're not sitting on this money. The amphitheater is going to be finished and the cultural arts center is going to start right away. Not next year, this year. And it's going to be done. [3:11:18, 3:11:21]: And guess what? We're not gonna sacrifice anything. [3:11:22, 3:11:31]: The$14 million fund, okay, yeah, that's$14 million. If we need to maneuver, we have other options. [3:11:32, 3:11:48]: Okay, we certainly do. We keep acting like we keep trying to penny pinch. I'm not gonna sacrifice the project and make it unworthy of the money. We're gonna put the money with it to make the amphitheater best in class. [3:11:49, 3:11:54]: We're gonna make the Culture Arts Center best in class. That's what we're gonna do. [3:11:55, 3:12:00]: Uh if nobody else will do it, I certainly will make the motion to move forward. [3:12:01, 3:12:21]: Well, well, first of all, we the seven hundred seven hundred thousand dollars, I mean seven million dollars for empathy is done. That's good, that passed unanimously, which is great. Now we're talking about these are different additional uh items that was on Mr. Wall's conclusion. And I think that's what we need to go back to to do do these motions properly, one way. [3:12:21, 3:12:34]: the other, whether it failed, pass, or fail. That's my assumption. Is that the proper way to do this? I'll make a motion to move forward with this uh with uh as recommended for the Cultural Art Center. That's what we were talking about, Cultural Arts Center. [3:12:34, 3:12:38]: I want to move forward with it. I don't want any delay. Carrie may go. [3:12:38, 3:12:44]: I think a motion on the table to you have a motion on the floor to table and on second. Call for the vote. [3:12:44, 3:12:45]: Mayor. [3:12:45, 3:12:46]: Yes, ma'am. [3:12:46, 3:12:47]: Thank you. [3:12:48, 3:12:50]: Listen, um Castlema Alexander [3:12:50, 3:12:54]: I think everybody agrees with you. No one wants to hold up a project. [3:12:55, 3:13:15]: And I think we all are entitled to make sure that whatever we do, we're spending the taxpayers' money that we have it accounted for. Not one time did you ask one of these questions in regards to how much is it gonna cost? What's the estimate right now, and where we are? Now you could have known that already, but I didn't. So I want to [3:13:14, 3:13:34]: the citizens to know that right now it's an estimate of 18.4 million or whatever the case may be, and we need to reduce it down to the 14 million. So, you know, that state-of-the-art building you were talking about is going to be reduced down and we're going to lose and change some things because we cannot get it to the 14 [3:13:34, 3:13:51]: million right now where we are. At one point it was up in the 20s. And that's where I was. I wanted to know where we are now. We also have some additional issues that we have to take top discuss in regards to this building that our executive session. So [3:13:51, 3:14:00]: I don't want any problems. I don't want us coming back when they say, oh, it's five million, it's ten million, oh, we didn't know these costs. We're doing it right now. [3:14:01, 3:14:11]: And I have no problem with it. I love I can't wait until we get started. I've always said I want to see bulldozers bulldozers pushing over the building. [3:14:11, 3:14:15]: But that is not in in this particular case. [3:14:15, 3:14:24]: Let's be real about it. The speeches and the you know the the theatrics, that's not gonna fly when it comes to being accountable for our citizens' money. [3:14:25, 3:14:31]: Time out for the Obama speeches. It's time if we're gonna do it, fine. But let's be educated on it. [3:14:32, 3:14:35]: Okay. Um Mr. Williams, you had your hand up, sir. [3:14:35, 3:14:35]: Mm-hmm. [3:14:36, 3:14:51]: Mr. Wiggins. No? Well, okay. The motion been made myself to table. That's what we motion been made to table the set made most made to uh table this and it's been seconded. All right. So let's vote on that. [3:14:51, 3:14:53]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:14:54, 3:14:54]: Yeah. [3:14:56, 3:14:58]: Okay, two all pose. [3:15:01, 3:15:04]: Three. Okay. So the motion now fails. Now let's go back to how we what [3:15:05, 3:15:11]: Yes. Yes, Mr. I have my hand up. No, no, he he Blount was first. Go ahead. He he beats by a little bit. Go ahead. Go ahead, Blount. [3:15:11, 3:15:18]: Mayor, uh Mayor, I just want to say that w we're we're not tabling progress in the city of Stockbridge. [3:15:19, 3:15:23]: We're table and getting facts about moving projects in the city of Stockbridge. [3:15:24, 3:15:30]: We're tabling because we wanted to table because we we're sitting here. [3:15:30, 3:15:34]: And about to bond twenty five million dollars with projects on hand. [3:15:34, 3:15:40]: And then now with now at the end of all of this money, now we're talking about public safety. [3:15:40, 3:15:46]: To me, public safety is is was more important to me than where we're at with it now. [3:15:47, 3:15:53]: You see what I'm saying? Now we put we put it at the end on uh on the top of tens of millions of dollars, then we put public safety there. [3:15:54, 3:15:55]: This city has been [3:15:56, 3:15:58]: This city I've been told by a financial advisor. [3:16:00, 3:16:02]: That the way we're operating is backwards. [3:16:03, 3:16:04]: I'm just gonna put it out there. [3:16:05, 3:16:13]: And if we think this because we have the power to do something, go right ahead. But I want every each and every council member on here to see the citizens are watching this. [3:16:14, 3:16:27]: And we're accountable for the actions we make. When we just open the purses, open up our purses, the city's purse to every every option and whim that we have with our professional decisions being made by those that we hired to help give it to us. [3:16:28, 3:16:31]: Go right ahead, the citizens are looking. [3:16:31, 3:16:32]: Бо во ми сиди. [3:16:32, 3:16:39]: And we can say, hey, it doesn't matter if we get all the facts, it doesn't matter we get all the information. We doesn't matter what what impact it is on the city. [3:16:40, 3:16:43]: Go ahead and vote and move it. Make the put the money there and we'll figure it out later. [3:16:44, 3:16:46]: We'll figure it out later. And that's what we're doing. [3:16:47, 3:16:48]: All right. We'll figure it out later. [3:16:48, 3:16:57]: All right. It's been table uh k not could be tabled, but go ahead. Mayor Pro Tem uh Alexander, what's your next comment? Thank you. I wanna make a motion to move forward. [3:16:57, 3:17:00]: With the Carrie May Hambrick Cultura Art Center. [3:17:01, 3:17:04]: Ескрай фортем мільйон долар. [3:17:04, 3:17:08]: And trust and believe we're not gonna cut corners on it. We're gonna make it the best. [3:17:09, 3:17:10]: A second. [3:17:11, 3:17:13]: All right. Now [3:17:13, 3:17:33]: I got a question properly made and seconded. Now when we say 14 million dollars, now that is I I know bonds, but anyway, that was mixed in with a couple of those options that uh Mr. Wall gave us, right? You had you had uh A, B, and C. So I just wanted to make sure that we are we're supposed to follow one of those. You're talking about 14 million, so we got to [3:17:33, 3:17:38]: follow one of those those options to make this happen if it's going to be approved. Is that correct? [3:17:42, 3:17:44]: I tell you, Ms. Wall, can you share your your your screen again, please? [3:17:45, 3:17:53]: Yes, that's a legal question. I need Mike Williams or Doug Selby to talk about it. Okay. All right. Then someone legally answer that, please. [3:17:55, 3:18:01]: So the the motion for fourteen million is different from what was presented on the screen. [3:18:01, 3:18:02]: And so my my [3:18:03, 3:18:06]: What I believe uh Mayor Pro Tem meant. [3:18:06, 3:18:10]: was the the Carrie May Hambrick uh [3:18:10, 3:18:13]: option with the police that was the that [3:18:14, 3:18:16]: A third option. I think that's where he was going. [3:18:18, 3:18:19]: Yes, uh the [3:18:20, 3:18:22]: What uh the uh that op [3:18:22, 3:18:23]: Um [3:18:23, 3:18:28]: As I would like to restate the motion as stated by the city attorney. [3:18:30, 3:18:49]: Okay, so all right, but which one uh stand by Miss Holliday? So I I think we need to go back once again, Mr. Wall, I think we need to go back to your screen and what you showed for our conclusion, make sure we got the right verbiage and uh right before we go for any further. Miss Holliday, I I'm not sure what you needed, man, but what what's on your mind? [3:18:50, 3:18:51]: There's also um [3:18:53, 3:19:04]: There's also mention of the trails in this um item. I just didn't know if it needed to be included in the motion. Mr. Wall. It does, yes. It does, yes, ma'am. Go back to Ms. Wall. [3:19:05, 3:19:05]: You got it. [3:19:08, 3:19:11]: I thought they were all separate. I guess they're not. So [3:19:12, 3:19:13]: Why? [3:19:17, 3:19:17]: So um [3:19:19, 3:19:22]: Just just tell me which one it is so I can read it. [3:19:23, 3:19:24]: So [3:19:24, 3:19:25]: Um [3:19:26, 3:19:29]: You've already approved the amphitheater. [3:19:29, 3:19:33]: But because we're paying for the am a part of the cultural arts center. [3:19:34, 3:19:37]: out of splost in addition to the amphitheater, we have one bond issue. [3:19:38, 3:19:40]: The twenty twenty one A. And so if you'll just read [3:19:41, 3:19:44]: One, two, and three and just make motions like that. [3:19:44, 3:19:45]: That's what um [3:19:46, 3:19:49]: Mike Williams and Doug Selby need for the bond documents. [3:19:51, 3:19:52]: Okay. [3:19:52, 3:19:55]: So we're talking about we're talking about three different [3:19:55, 3:20:01]: Three different uh motions and seconds and approval or disapproval is what we're talking about here. Is that correct? Yes, sir. [3:20:01, 3:20:01]: Right. [3:20:03, 3:20:03]: Right. [3:20:03, 3:20:04]: Okay. [3:20:05, 3:20:05]: Um [3:20:06, 3:20:11]: Uh, I'd like to make a motion for series twenty twenty one a bond issue. [3:20:11, 3:20:15]: with a four year maturity at an interest rate of one point three two [3:20:15, 3:20:19]: To fund the amphitheater and small portion of the culture art center. [3:20:20, 3:20:24]: in the amount of nine million nine hundred and ten thousand [3:20:25, 3:20:26]: There are second. [3:20:27, 3:20:28]: A certain [3:20:29, 3:20:31]: Mr Mr Mr. Thomas Seconds that [3:20:32, 3:20:35]: Okay, motion is made in a second. All in favor of that, please indicate. [3:20:36, 3:20:43]: One two I need to hear a um a verbal because I can't see can't see everybody. [3:20:44, 3:20:44]: That's right. [3:20:45, 3:21:05]: Verbally, uh Councilman Blanc, you're the first one I see. You have to ask that there Okay, I can see everyone now if we could call for the vote again, please. But that was a motion in a second without a discussion. We need to Well I can, but but but you want discussion, go right ahead, sir. Go ahead. What's your comment? Well, what we're getting ready to vote on for the amount of money. [3:21:06, 3:21:11]: How with the city with this with the profile that you have for the city, how will we pay for this? [3:21:14, 3:21:18]: I apologize. Is that a c question for me, Councilman Blount? Yes, sir. [3:21:19, 3:21:23]: Well what you have to city, how will we pay for this? [3:21:23, 3:21:27]: The motion on the table the motion on the table for twenty twenty one A [3:21:27, 3:21:29]: is to be paid from Splost Five. [3:21:30, 3:21:30]: Okay. [3:21:31, 3:21:31]: In in total. [3:21:33, 3:21:35]: So four year bond paid by Splost. [3:21:36, 3:21:36]: Um [3:21:36, 3:21:39]: For the entire amphitheater for seven million. [3:21:39, 3:21:42]: And two million eight thirty six for a portion of the cultural arts center. [3:21:43, 3:21:53]: Okay, but we're we're talking about a a a grand total of twenty-five million with Right. So series the series B coming up is for the trails. That's all from Splosh Five. [3:21:54, 3:21:56]: In the series C bond issue. [3:21:56, 3:22:00]: is the rest of the cultural arts center, eleven million and change. [3:22:00, 3:22:02]: And three mayjen for police. [3:22:02, 3:22:08]: And that has to be paid out of the general fund. And that total payment is a million five hundred and thirty five thousand annually. [3:22:08, 3:22:09]: For seven years. [3:22:10, 3:22:13]: And then dropping to nine hundred and seventy two thousand for years eight through fifteen. [3:22:14, 3:22:15]: Okay. [3:22:15, 3:22:15]: Thank you. [3:22:16, 3:22:18]: Um Mr. Wall, please go back to your screen. [3:22:19, 3:22:19]: Yes, sir. [3:22:26, 3:22:28]: Pretty cool. Right. [3:22:35, 3:22:44]: Okay, the motion's been made in a second for number one. All right. Now what we're gonna have to do since we since this screen is up, we can't see everybody. So we need you to verbally uh approve or disapprove. [3:22:45, 3:22:53]: Okay, so all in favor of motion of of the uh number one. Um uh Mr. Blount, I I see you first. Are you in favor? Yeah or nay? [3:22:56, 3:23:01]: Mayor, only thing I'm approving tonight was the amphitheater. Everything else. [3:23:01, 3:23:04]: I I I'm not approved. Okay, so that's a nay. Uh Mayor Pro Tem. [3:23:05, 3:23:06]: Yes. [3:23:06, 3:23:08]: Of um Councilman Thomas. [3:23:09, 3:23:10]: Yes. [3:23:10, 3:23:11]: Councilman Barber. [3:23:11, 3:23:12]: Yes. [3:23:12, 3:23:14]: Okay, Councilwoman Gan. [3:23:14, 3:23:18]: Yes. Okay, so that's uh four one on that particular motion. [3:23:19, 3:23:19]: All right. [3:23:20, 3:23:21]: I need a motion for number two. [3:23:21, 3:23:25]: Ser series two series twenty twenty one. [3:23:25, 3:23:27]: B bond issue. [3:23:27, 3:23:32]: with a four year maturity and interest rate of one point zero four percent. [3:23:33, 3:23:34]: To fund a portion [3:23:34, 3:23:38]: of the mult of the trails. This is our city multi use trail. [3:23:38, 3:23:41]: To copy a segment of the trail. [3:23:41, 3:23:42]: To get things started. [3:23:43, 3:23:45]: Exclusive of Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [3:23:46, 3:23:48]: East Atlanta and downtown areas. [3:23:49, 3:23:55]: So and that's for you gotta say the number here. That's for one one million one million thirty thirty thousand dollars. [3:23:56, 3:23:59]: Can hardly read that, but that's what it is. Okay. [3:23:59, 3:24:00]: Mayor. [3:24:00, 3:24:00]: Yes, ma'am. [3:24:01, 3:24:07]: I I just need to know I I know it's for the trails, but how much of a trail can we get for that amount? [3:24:09, 3:24:10]: Not much of a trail. [3:24:10, 3:24:15]: Yeah, what do we get? What are we paying? What are we getting with the one million? I'm I'm all [3:24:15, 3:24:16]: What are we getting with it? [3:24:17, 3:24:18]: You want me to answer that? [3:24:21, 3:24:41]: I don't know the actual length of the mail of the trails and the actual I know we have a schematic of trails uh for that we have uh had approved uh or had a a a feasibility study done on may on on the trails and the and my understanding the trails initially will start through the downtown area to connect everything on downtown and it's spread out from that point. [3:24:41, 3:24:41]: Point. [3:24:42, 3:24:48]: Right. Mr. Knighton, do we have money already set aside for trails and splaster or no? [3:24:49, 3:24:51]: There is some um [3:24:52, 3:24:55]: Road or park money can be used for trails. [3:24:55, 3:25:03]: How much of that some of that is envisioned probably four trails. It depends on what the council wants to spend, because in parks, I believe it was. [3:25:03, 3:25:14]: Four million in roads, I bel or I'm sorry. It's one million five oh one million five oh eight for parks and four million five ninety for roads. That's right. In roads in Splas five. That is correct. [3:25:15, 3:25:22]: So it depends on how ambitious the count the council wants to be with respect to trails. The other issue related to how much of a trail you can get. [3:25:23, 3:25:29]: depends on the section you choose because it could be right-of-way costs in some areas, could not be right-of-way costs in other areas. [3:25:29, 3:25:43]: And there could be other factors in certain areas and not other factors in other areas. So it depends on the the type of trail system you want. I would I would encourage the council in terms of looking at a full-scale trail network that it as this T-SPLOST. [3:25:44, 3:25:49]: Comes before voters in November, although we cannot uh officially advocate. [3:25:49, 3:25:52]: But that we take a very serious look. [3:25:52, 3:25:57]: Correct. Supplementing and supporting a full scale trail pro program is a part of the T S Plus. [3:25:57, 3:26:01]: Okay. How much interest are we paying, Mr. Wall, on that one million for [3:26:01, 3:26:07]: just to throw an allocate out there for a trail that we might have money already set aside for. [3:26:07, 3:26:09]: It's uh the interest rate uh [3:26:10, 3:26:13]: Councilman Ganttz um mit is one point zero four percent. [3:26:13, 3:26:17]: And the dollar amount for four years is thirty thousand. [3:26:17, 3:26:19]: Eight hundred and seventy one dollars. [3:26:20, 3:26:21]: Okay. [3:26:23, 3:26:24]: Yeah, pro ten. [3:26:24, 3:26:27]: Uh generally, according to the Path Foundation. [3:26:28, 3:26:30]: Uh for that particular amount, uh one [3:26:31, 3:26:37]: Uh between eight hundred thousand and nine hundred thousand dollars you can get one mile of twelve foot [3:26:37, 3:26:38]: Pair. [3:26:38, 3:26:53]: uh as they are constructed. But please understand, this$1 million is the seed money. Miss Harris Bragg came before us to ask what we need what she what we needed in terms of the$3 million in grants. [3:26:53, 3:26:56]: Would come in. So this one milyen dollars is the seed money. [3:26:56, 3:26:58]: uh that would uh in turn [3:26:58, 3:27:06]: uh possibly bring back up to three million dollars in grants. Uh that's all I need to know. Thank you. [3:27:07, 3:27:09]: Okay. Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [3:27:09, 3:27:15]: Uh Mr. Knighton, uh the the monies that we're moving in sparse [3:27:15, 3:27:17]: uh for the roads [3:27:18, 3:27:24]: Uh, because I know we have a L Make list for last year, twenty twenty. We have one for twenty twenty one. [3:27:24, 3:27:37]: Uh-huh. Wouldn't these monies could couldn't these m would wouldn't those monies alloc would be allocated for improvements in different c areas that we would use for road improvements or right of way improvements or whatever? [3:27:37, 3:27:42]: Wasn't that wasn't that the purpose of that splost? I'm just c trying to understand. I I mean that that [3:27:43, 3:27:44]: I'm sorry, go ahead. [3:27:44, 3:27:48]: Yeah, well if we would start rem if we remove the four point five million. [3:27:48, 3:27:49]: Then then [3:27:50, 3:27:51]: Yeah, we're not [3:27:52, 3:27:57]: Yeah, we're not talking about the whole four point not not talking about removing all of the four point five million. [3:27:58, 3:28:18]: Uh the the spot category for roads is fairly flexible in terms of what you can use those monies for, be it a true road, a street, be it trails, things of that nature. So there's flexibility there with respect to using uh road money. Um the item we talked about related to East Atlanta and Lee Street. [3:28:18, 3:28:20]: Earlier, that's plus four money. [3:28:21, 3:28:22]: Uh, that we were talking about using. [3:28:23, 3:28:27]: Um, we're talking about uh anything related to this trail item. [3:28:27, 3:28:29]: Uh coming out of splast five. [3:28:29, 3:28:49]: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm speaking of the overall 25 million when we talked about the different scenarios on how to come to that for that to come to fruition. I think Mr. Walls mentioned Splos five removing four million. Uh correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Walls. I think you mentioned SPLOS five uh uh funds coming off the roads. [3:28:49, 3:28:50]: For [3:28:50, 3:28:56]: uh putting it in uh putting it in this uh implementing it in this uh whole scenario. Was that correct? [3:28:56, 3:29:00]: So the change order we approved tonight on the amphitheater. [3:29:01, 3:29:05]: Um the funding that we've identified for the amphitheater was a million seven short. [3:29:06, 3:29:11]: We were gonna take that million seven shortfall from the three million of splos four. [3:29:12, 3:29:16]: And it left a million three of splosh four for the roads around the amphitheater. [3:29:17, 3:29:24]: To the extent those roads cost more than that 1.3 million, I suggested it come from this four and a half million for roads and splost five. [3:29:25, 3:29:29]: And that's and that's what I'm talking about, Mr. Knight. We're we're depleting [3:29:29, 3:29:33]: Uh for for this project we're depleting spots. [3:29:33, 3:29:37]: Lost money for roles that the intent of it I thought was to [3:29:37, 3:29:40]: for for other areas of the city that needs uh [3:29:40, 3:29:41]: Uh I wouldn't. [3:29:42, 3:29:49]: I would I would say that staff of the financial advisor are presenting presenting you with scenarios. It is left up to the council to make a decision. [3:29:50, 3:29:51]: Of what you want to use monies for. [3:29:52, 3:29:53]: I would also mention again [3:29:54, 3:29:58]: I'm I'm emphasizing this because a T splot is a unique item. [3:29:58, 3:30:01]: We don't know if it'll pass in November, but certainly. [3:30:01, 3:30:10]: We need to have an eye on what benefits those monies could yield for the city. When we talk about all of these different networks, road improvements. [3:30:10, 3:30:15]: Trails, etcetera. That would be a tremendous boost if it were to pass. [3:30:15, 3:30:17]: And I think we always need to have that in our [3:30:18, 3:30:19]: In our sites. [3:30:19, 3:30:26]: But to answer your point again, um, that again is the council's choice uh to make decision on what money is to be used. We don't know. [3:30:26, 3:30:29]: What the roads of East East Atlanta and Lee Street. [3:30:29, 3:30:32]: will entail. We don't know where that's going to come in until we bid it out. [3:30:32, 3:30:35]: And so that's what Mr. Wall was alluding to. [3:30:35, 3:30:43]: comes in more than that, that that would be the primary recommended avenue to fund uh East Atlanta and Lee Street. [3:30:44, 3:30:46]: Mr. Wall, please go back to your screen. [3:31:02, 3:31:10]: All right. So we uh number two. And I believe uh Mayor Potem already read that for uh a motion and it was seconded, is that correct? [3:31:11, 3:31:26]: I don't have a second. I second. Okay. Miss Gantt second that. So all in favor. Well, we got to do this verbally as well, so we can see every get a verbal count. So all in favor of motion. And believe Mr. Blount, you said you're not going to vote for you vote negative on this. Is that correct? [3:31:30, 3:31:33]: Is this just is this just for the trail portion? [3:31:35, 3:31:36]: It says [3:31:37, 3:31:37]: Yes, sir. [3:31:38, 3:31:38]: All right. [3:31:38, 3:31:39]: I'm fine with that. [3:31:40, 3:31:42]: Oh, you're fine with that one. Okay, fantastic. [3:31:42, 3:31:44]: Um uh Councilman Thomas. [3:31:45, 3:31:45]: Yes. [3:31:46, 3:31:48]: Uh uh Mayor Potem Al Zander. [3:31:49, 3:31:49]: Yes. [3:31:50, 3:31:50]: Ms. Gantt. [3:31:54, 3:31:54]: Yes. [3:31:55, 3:31:56]: Councilwoman Barber. [3:31:56, 3:31:57]: Yes. [3:31:57, 3:31:59]: Okay, it's unanimous. Okay. Fantastic. Now. [3:32:00, 3:32:02]: Uh for the third motion, number three here. [3:32:02, 3:32:05]: Someone pro tem go ahead, please. [3:32:05, 3:32:08]: uh series twenty twenty one C Bun. [3:32:09, 3:32:11]: issue with a fifteen year maturity. [3:32:12, 3:32:13]: At an interest rate [3:32:14, 3:32:16]: Of two point two five percent. [3:32:16, 3:32:18]: To find portions. [3:32:18, 3:32:20]: Of the Culture Art Center. [3:32:20, 3:32:21]: Plus [3:32:21, 3:32:22]: Police equipment. [3:32:23, 3:32:24]: Um [3:32:25, 3:32:26]: For four. [3:32:26, 3:32:28]: Fourteen million, is that fourteen million? [3:32:29, 3:32:31]: Fourteen million eight hundred and fifty thousand. [3:32:31, 3:32:34]: Fourteen million eight hundred and fifty thousand. [3:32:34, 3:32:39]: To craft a best in class Carrie May Hambrick Culture Art Center. [3:32:40, 3:32:47]: and to do what's necessary to start the Stockbridge Police Department, which is long overdue. [3:32:48, 3:32:49]: Is there a second to the motion? [3:32:50, 3:32:52]: Uh Mr. Mayor. Yes, sir. [3:32:53, 3:32:57]: Um I I will make the motion, but let me be clear on [3:32:57, 3:33:02]: police equipment. Uh my question should that be [3:33:02, 3:33:07]: police startup or police equipment since it's been specified. [3:33:08, 3:33:16]: I I think maybe and thank you, um, Councilman Thomas for that question. Uh perhaps uh the term police capital equipment. [3:33:16, 3:33:19]: Maybe better. Is that Doug or Ed? [3:33:22, 3:33:23]: Yes, but that's fine. [3:33:23, 3:33:30]: Okay. I'll amend the motion to state police capital equipment. Thank you, uh, Councilman Thomas for the kick. [3:33:30, 3:33:36]: And and also cut Councilman Alexander, could you do fourteen million eight thirty? I put my glasses on, I'd read the number wrong. [3:33:36, 3:33:42]: Okay, and a correction uh amount of fourteen million eight hundred and thirty thousand. [3:33:43, 3:33:44]: A second. [3:33:44, 3:33:46]: Okay, there you go. [3:33:46, 3:33:51]: All right, let's do this verbally. All in favor of this motion, please indicate Mr. Blount. [3:33:54, 3:33:56]: Mayor. Yeah, what Mr. Knighton, do you have something, sir? [3:33:58, 3:34:04]: Oh, please go ahead. I would I would like to make a a comment after the motion is made. It'll be fine. Mr. Mr. Blount, yay or nay? [3:34:05, 3:34:05]: No. [3:34:06, 3:34:08]: Um uh Miss Gantt, yeah or nay. [3:34:09, 3:34:21]: I abstain because the police department is listed in there as well. And I've already told you my concerns about that with no actual startup cost that there's a difference from what I've read in some of the reports. Ms. Barber, what should [3:34:24, 3:34:28]: Yes. Uh mayor uh coun uh uh councilman Thomas. [3:34:29, 3:34:30]: Yes. [3:34:30, 3:34:31]: And Alexander. [3:34:32, 3:34:39]: Yes. Remember. Okay. So what's what is that? That is uh three one one. Three one one. Okay. Three one one. [3:34:39, 3:34:42]: All right. Uh Mr. Knighton, your uh your comments, please. [3:34:43, 3:34:48]: Just uh just real quick on the on the clarification on the cultural arts center. [3:34:48, 3:35:00]: Um, that was based on conversation that Heather and I had some time ago about a$14 million number. I got those numbers I read to you all this afternoon, or I'm sorry, I just read to you. I got those on Friday. [3:35:00, 3:35:02]: And haven't even had a chance to talk to Heather about [3:35:03, 3:35:09]: On how we reduce that number. We talked briefly today, but not a full conversation on how we reduce that number. And nobody has seen that. [3:35:09, 3:35:11]: Um, except Heather and myself. [3:35:12, 3:35:18]: Um and I've got to have further conversations of how we reduce that number to meet that 14 million dollars. [3:35:19, 3:35:32]: Okay, going on our next thing. Council consideration to approve stop bridge, public facilities authority, reven uh revenue bond, cultural arts center, and trail project to be issued an amount of three million nine four nine hundred forty thousand. [3:35:32, 3:35:52]: On a tax exempt basis and the use of SPLOS 5 revenues to pay all or portion of the on debt service and the Stockbridge Public Facilities Authority Revenue Bond Cultural Arts Center project to be issued an amount of$11,640,000 on a tax exempt bond, uh tax exempt. [3:35:52, 3:35:55]: Mr. Knight and Mr. Wall, what is [3:35:56, 3:36:00]: We we've got all that, Mayor. You can keep it. Yeah, that's that's what they just did. [3:36:00, 3:36:06]: You got all that. But I wanted to read this because it was on the agenda. Oh Lord. [3:36:07, 3:36:11]: It's on the gender. I'm trying to go through the agenda. Okay. That's done. All right. [3:36:11, 3:36:13]: Now now we got now we publicly know that. All right. [3:36:14, 3:36:20]: Uh so we move on council uh consideration to appoint a member uh to the main street advisory board. [3:36:20, 3:36:23]: Ms. Harris, please. Yes, sir. [3:36:23, 3:36:26]: Uh may I make a comment before we go to the next agenda item? [3:36:27, 3:36:28]: Go right in, sir. [3:36:28, 3:36:35]: And and I and I hope this is not a big d discussion or debate, but I just want to remind the council. [3:36:35, 3:36:39]: That m Mr. Knight and I a few months ago. [3:36:39, 3:36:42]: Um, research [3:36:42, 3:36:46]: And brought before the council a scenario where [3:36:47, 3:36:50]: Four hundred to five hundred thousand dollars. [3:36:50, 3:37:10]: Will be a surplus for bringing permitted in-house. Now I've heard all of this discussion about monies and this and that, but$400,000 to$500,000 was looking at us red in our eyes, and now here we are sort of scratching about where these funds is gonna come from. [3:37:10, 3:37:17]: I don't, you know, uh hopefully there's no no discussion or even comments about that, but I just want to put that out on the table. [3:37:18, 3:37:21]: That's a half a million dollars annually. [3:37:21, 3:37:41]: That could have been into this scenario and Mr. Night and I, and the reason I throw Mr. Night in there because it authenticates the research, a half a million dollars that we could have had and still could have uh in all of our financing. So, Mr. Mayor, you you can go ahead with the next agenda item. I just wanted to [3:37:41, 3:37:42]: Mentioned that. [3:37:42, 3:37:49]: Thank you, sir. Council consideration appoint a member of the Main Street Advisory Board, uh Miss Harris Braggs, please. [3:37:50, 3:38:10]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council members. I come before you tonight for approval for appointing another member to the Main Street Advisory Board. This person would fulfill the obligation of the position for a business owner or operator outside of the Main. [3:38:10, 3:38:11]: Street district. [3:38:11, 3:38:31]: And our candidate for appointment is Ms. Rocio Camacho. She is a principal at RCC Associates. And that is a business that is located within the city limits of Stockbridge. Her particular business handles insurance, bookkeeping, accounting, and [3:38:31, 3:38:47]: and provides tax services. Ms. Camacho has been very active with Main Street and citywide activities, including Brett Bridgefest, where she was a key contributor to our Hispanifest celebration. [3:38:47, 3:39:05]: She has also been instrumental in assisting the Main Street Advisory Board with making inroads into the Hispanic, Latino, and Spanish communities here in Stockbridge, especially for participation when we were working on our focus groups for the RSVP project. [3:39:05, 3:39:12]: Um, I would like to recommend that Ms. Camacho be appointed to the Main Street Advisory Board for a two-year term. [3:39:13, 3:39:22]: Uh Mr. Mayor Pro Tem, you had your hand up earlier. I'm gonna defer to Councilman Thomas as the um the main street representative. Councilman Thomas, sir. [3:39:23, 3:39:25]: Uh I'll I move. [3:39:26, 3:39:29]: That we accept мізи Camacho's [3:39:29, 3:39:34]: uh application to fill the vacancy on the Main Street board. [3:39:34, 3:39:35]: Second. [3:39:36, 3:39:37]: No matter we told me. [3:39:37, 3:39:41]: I think with the mayor pro tem Alexander on the second there. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:39:43, 3:40:03]: Okay, see Namas. Yeah, well, four, four, uh, Mr. Blount's not there. So four zero zero. He's not in his screen right there. Okay, now that was the five. All right. This is a Namus decision. On that note. Hold on, Mayor, real quick. Can I say one one little comment? Yeah, go ahead, sir. Miss Harris Bragg, let's [3:40:03, 3:40:05]: Let's bring back a spanifist. [3:40:07, 3:40:15]: They're interesting. Let's talk. I think you may have to talk with uh Miss CC McGee about that one, Miss uh Mayor Pro Tem. Okay, thank you. [3:40:16, 3:40:22]: All right. On that on that note, I have a few comments to make. As you well know, we're still in the midst of a a pandemic. [3:40:23, 3:40:43]: And so a couple things here. One is that you still can get tested free of charge. Uh if you at the Heritage Senior Center, located at 1050 Florence McGardy Boulevard, Monday to Thursday is uh 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. Saturday, 9 a.m. to noon. You have to call this number, 800-847-442-780. [3:40:43, 3:40:51]: Once again, 800-847-4262. Or go to the Public Health Department District 4 website to make your appointment. [3:40:51, 3:40:57]: Now the uh appointments are still necessary for that, but what's even more important is the actual vaccination process. [3:40:58, 3:41:07]: All right, and we're phase one expanded. And you make an appointment, uh, you have to uh make the appointment, you have to call this number, 762-222-272-272- [3:41:07, 3:41:15]: eight eight eight eight one eight zero. Once again seven six two eight eight eight eight one eight zero. [3:41:15, 3:41:35]: Right now, to uh tomorrow, one second, Councilman Thomas. Tomorrow, uh the second shots are given to people who have already go to actually complete the series. The second shots only tomorrow are scheduled uh from it starts at 8:30 at Atlanta Motor Speedway. Okay. Now, next Tuesday, uh first [3:41:35, 3:41:43]: First shots will be given. And now we start at 8:30 on next Tuesday, and that's going to be at JP Moseley Park Recreational Center. [3:41:44, 3:42:04]: Once again, next Tuesday, first shots will be given. Starts uh at 8:30, schedule JPR JR Mosley Park Recreational Center. It's 1048 Miller's Mill Road, right in Stockbridge. Now, you have to qualify for that, which means you have to be a health care provider at a long-term care facility, EMS, first research. [3:42:04, 3:42:12]: Responders, police firefighters, or somehow correctional facilities, such as individuals that work at jails, individuals that are 65 or older. [3:42:13, 3:42:27]: and your health and people that have their their health care providers can also get vaccinated. This is gonna be ongoing for several months to get through all these phases. Okay. And there is information on on the Stockbridge website uh for for this. [3:42:27, 3:42:33]: Uh Councilman Thomas, you had your hand raised. I just wanted to share with uh the council and staff. [3:42:33, 3:42:40]: I guess um a week or two ago I uh actually um received my shot. [3:42:40, 3:42:45]: I uh I videotaped it and uh I will be sharing that uh with the council. [3:42:46, 3:42:47]: Fantastic. I appreciate that. [3:42:48, 3:42:50]: Yeah, yeah. Yes, Councilman Blount. [3:42:50, 3:42:58]: Mayor, could you uh also uh mention about Eugene Edwards, please? I got it, sir. I got it. It's coming up, it's coming up shortly. I will do that. [3:42:58, 3:43:05]: And uh since uh Councilman Thomas spoke up, I want to thank him for an outstanding African-American history program that went on virtually just the other day. [3:43:05, 3:43:20]: Uh fantastic. Look for even a better program next year. You got to improve each and every year. So it's it's fantastic. So I appreciate that as being a especially being a historical home, ancestral home of the King family, without a doubt. That's something to be proud of. [3:43:21, 3:43:32]: And and Mr. Blount, you're absolutely right. I have it right here. And um it is um uh unfortunate and with condolences uh sadness from myself, the council. [3:43:32, 3:43:52]: For Annette Edwards and her family for the passing of her husband, Eugene Edwards, which is longtime president of the Henry County NAACP. And may God continue to bless the family, the Edwards families that go through this most difficult time and this aspect. So please keep the family your prayers. Unfortunate to hear that. [3:43:52, 3:43:53]: And news. [3:43:55, 3:44:15]: That is all my comments for tonight. I'll go on to other announcements. Uh city offices are closed due to COVID-19 precautions until further notice. So if you have any city business, of course, contact us, uh find information, go to Web City's website and uh with the city of Stockbridge.com and uh be able to contact each department. [3:44:14, 3:44:17]: for your services or information. [3:44:17, 3:44:29]: Upcoming meetings and arranged and announcements and city council meetings, 6 p.m., second Monday of each month, which is what we're doing tonight. Main Street Advisory Board meetings at 9 a.m. second Friday of each month. [3:44:29, 3:44:49]: The Downtown Development Authority meeting is 6 p.m., third Tuesday of each month. Youth Council Advisory meeting, 6.30 p.m., third Tuesday of each month. Youth Council meeting 6.30 p.m. third Wednesday of each month. Planning Commission meeting 6.30 p.m. fourth Thursday of each month. [3:44:49, 3:44:57]: And our next city council work session is 6 p.m., which was also the last Thursday of each month. And of course, all these particular meetings are virtually. [3:44:57, 3:45:17]: And uh the upcoming public hearing we have for March 8th of 2021, uh 6 p.m. rezoning case of RZ 2020-02. An upcoming council initiative, Mayor Pro Tem Alexander is going to have his fifth annual women's uh history month celebration, of course virtually, uh, which is March 7th. [3:45:17, 3:45:25]: And any further information, you contact Zovia, Zobia, Zenovia, excuse me, excuse me, person. [3:45:25, 3:45:35]: At uh four oh four five six five five one zero nine. That's all those announcements. And outside uh I would imagine we have no executive session this evening. [3:45:35, 3:45:38]: And so outside of that, I need a motion to adjourn the meeting. [3:45:39, 3:45:40]: So move. [3:45:40, 3:45:41]: There are a second. [3:45:42, 3:45:43]: Hi second. [3:45:43, 3:45:45]: Just can second it. All in favor, please indicate. [3:45:46, 3:45:49]: We are now standing here. God bless you all. Have a good evening. [3:45:49, 3:45:50]: Thank you.
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    --- title: January 26 2021 Work Session Meeting Via Zoom date: 2021-01-26 source: 2021-01-26_January_26_2021_Work_Session_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:04]: So I like to we have a quorum, so I'd like to get the m uh meeting started. [0:00:04, 0:00:10]: And uh on that note, this is our council work session, Tuesday, um July 26th. [0:00:11, 0:00:13]: I'd like to call the meeting to order. [0:00:13, 0:00:16]: And um councilman uh [0:00:17, 0:00:19]: Alfonso Thomas, could you please give an invocation, sir? [0:00:20, 0:00:21]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:00:22, 0:00:23]: Let us pray. [0:00:25, 0:00:29]: Oh Heavenly Father, we thank you once again. [0:00:30, 0:00:31]: For this day. [0:00:32, 0:00:36]: And the many blessings you bestow upon us each and every day. [0:00:38, 0:00:42]: We ask you to lift up all those [0:00:42, 0:00:45]: who are facing various illnesses. [0:00:46, 0:00:47]: Give them the hope. [0:00:49, 0:00:50]: Encourage [0:00:51, 0:00:52]: They need today. [0:00:52, 0:00:53]: And every day. [0:00:56, 0:00:57]: Comfort their pain. [0:00:58, 0:01:00]: Calm their fears. [0:01:01, 0:01:03]: And surround them with your peace. [0:01:05, 0:01:08]: Father, may the Holy Spirit guide. [0:01:08, 0:01:10]: and strengthen this council. [0:01:11, 0:01:13]: To make sound decisions. [0:01:14, 0:01:17]: That affect all citizens of Stockbridge. [0:01:19, 0:01:23]: Provide this council with all the the tools and resources. [0:01:23, 0:01:25]: To move this great city forward. [0:01:26, 0:01:28]: To be the best. [0:01:29, 0:01:29]: It can be. [0:01:30, 0:01:32]: Фадови с [0:01:32, 0:01:33]: For these blessings. [0:01:34, 0:01:35]: In Jesus' name. [0:01:35, 0:01:37]: Amen. Amen. [0:01:38, 0:01:40]: We please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:01:43, 0:01:55]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for what it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:01:57, 0:01:59]: Madam Clark, roll call, please. [0:02:09, 0:02:10]: Mayor Ford. [0:02:10, 0:02:11]: Present. [0:02:13, 0:02:13]: May approach. [0:02:14, 0:02:16]: Protem Alexander. [0:02:16, 0:02:17]: President. [0:02:21, 0:02:22]: Cancel. [0:02:22, 0:02:23]: So one and barber. [0:02:24, 0:02:25]: Present. [0:02:29, 0:02:30]: Councilman Blount. [0:02:38, 0:02:41]: Council Member Blount, are you able to respond? [0:02:44, 0:02:45]: Present. [0:02:47, 0:02:49]: Yes. Um councilwoman Gantt. [0:02:53, 0:02:55]: All right, let the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. [0:02:56, 0:02:58]: And Councilman Thomas. [0:02:59, 0:02:59]: Rose it. [0:03:01, 0:03:03]: Thank you, Mayor Ford. You have a quorum. [0:03:04, 0:03:05]: Thank you. Appreciate it. [0:03:06, 0:03:08]: Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:03:09, 0:03:10]: Uh Mayor. [0:03:10, 0:03:11]: Yes, sir. [0:03:11, 0:03:16]: Okay, I'd like to amend the agenda, uh like to add um [0:03:16, 0:03:18]: A ceremonial piece up front. [0:03:19, 0:03:23]: uh in order to uh bestow the human trafficking [0:03:24, 0:03:26]: Awareness proclamation to [0:03:26, 0:03:27]: Uh [0:03:27, 0:03:31]: Uh Deborah Abernathy uh Delta Sigma Theta. I'd like that to be the first item. [0:03:31, 0:03:33]: On the agenda. [0:03:33, 0:03:36]: And the last item on the agenda. [0:03:36, 0:03:41]: Would like it to be a memorandum uh or a uh moratorium. [0:03:41, 0:03:44]: on the the leasing that's going on at the Pine View. [0:03:44, 0:03:47]: uh subdivision will attempt to tackle that. [0:03:47, 0:03:49]: uh city wide where a [0:03:49, 0:03:50]: Subdivision. [0:03:50, 0:03:52]: was actually bought out by a [0:03:53, 0:03:55]: investor and now has turned into [0:03:55, 0:03:56]: A rental. [0:03:56, 0:03:57]: Depart a rental. [0:03:57, 0:03:59]: subdivision which is just [0:03:59, 0:04:01]: Outlandish. So I'd like to add those two items. [0:04:02, 0:04:03]: Uh to the agenda. [0:04:04, 0:04:05]: So second to the motion. [0:04:05, 0:04:06]: A second. [0:04:07, 0:04:08]: Okay, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:04:10, 0:04:21]: Okay. Four or five. All right. Good deal. Uh on that note, uh you need to review your minutes for the following meetings. December twelfth. Yeah for it. Yes, ma'am. [0:04:24, 0:04:25]: Awesome. [0:04:27, 0:04:31]: I just wanted for the record to note that Councilwoman Gantt has joined the meeting. [0:04:31, 0:04:33]: Welcome, Councilwoman Gantt. [0:04:34, 0:04:34]: Okay. [0:04:35, 0:04:51]: uh review the minutes for the following meetings december twelfth excuse me uh december 14th which is a council meeting december 22nd which is a council work session and we had a special call meeting uh on the 29th of December so those are for you reviewed at our next uh [0:04:51, 0:04:54]: Council meeting will go ahead and approve those particular meetings. [0:04:55, 0:04:59]: And on this note, uh read a proclamation. Now I have to admit the proclamation. [0:04:59, 0:05:02]: typically is is uh differ different than we normally do this in a [0:05:02, 0:05:07]: in a council work session. Our policy has this at our regular council meeting, but we're gonna do this tonight. [0:05:08, 0:05:13]: So council, if we're gonna make this a plan to do this on a continued basis, we need to change the policy. [0:05:13, 0:05:16]: to reflect that. Typically I do this during my remarks at the end. [0:05:17, 0:05:18]: But regardless of that. [0:05:18, 0:05:20]: I'll read this tonight. Okay. [0:05:21, 0:05:26]: And uh Ms. Avermathy Abernathy, uh welcome uh to our council meeting. [0:05:27, 0:05:30]: Proclamation National Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month. [0:05:31, 0:05:39]: Whereas in 2010, by presidential proclamation, January was declared National Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month. [0:05:40, 0:05:49]: Whereas these proclamations not only rise to the profile of the issue, they also are also snapshots of global trends and challenges. [0:05:49, 0:05:52]: a significant US anti trafficking policy and achievements. [0:05:53, 0:05:58]: Whereas by some estimates, as many as twenty four point nine million people, adults and children. [0:05:58, 0:06:08]: are trapped in a form of human trafficking around the world, including the United States. Instability caused by natural disasters, conflict, or pandemic [0:06:08, 0:06:28]: Can increase opportunities for traffickers to exploit others. During the COVID-19 pandemic, traffickers are continuing to harm people, finding ways to innovate and even capitalize on the chaos. Whereas the Department of State rises awareness to human trafficking domestically and abroad through U.S. embassies. [0:06:28, 0:06:29]: And consulates. [0:06:30, 0:06:40]: We also celebrate the efforts of anti-trafficking organizations, communities of faith, state and local law enforcement, survivor advocates, businesses, and private citizens all around the world. [0:06:40, 0:06:46]: Do promote this important cause. Everyone can play an a part in ending human trafficking. [0:06:46, 0:07:00]: And whereas every year in January, the city of Stockbridge dedicates the month of January to rising awareness about the different forms of human trafficking, also known as modern slavery, and educating people about this crime and how to spot it. [0:07:00, 0:07:06]: And now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, vested in me as mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:07:06, 0:07:15]: And on behalf of city council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Lakeisha Gann, and Fonzo Thomas, to hereby proclaim January twenty twenty-one. [0:07:16, 0:07:35]: To be the National Slavery Human Trafficking Prevention Month in the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on its 26th day of January in the year of our Lord 2021, and I signed his proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holliday. [0:07:35, 0:07:36]: How standing. [0:07:36, 0:07:38]: Thank you, Miss Abernathie, for being present. [0:07:39, 0:07:43]: Uh by the way, Miss Iron Matthew, you have any comments at all at this time, ma'am. The floor is yours. [0:07:44, 0:08:01]: Yes, good evening, Mayor Ford and Stockbridge Council and staff, everyone who's assembled here. Thank you so much on behalf of the ladies of the Henry County Alumni Chapter Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Incorporated under our grand chapter, Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Incorporated. [0:08:02, 0:08:06]: On behalf of first vice president Daniels, our second vice president. [0:08:06, 0:08:07]: Um, Tow. [0:08:08, 0:08:18]: And the ladies, we thank you so much for recognizing the service and the work that we provide here in the Henry County area, Stockridge area as well. [0:08:19, 0:08:39]: We are an organization of sisterhood scholarship and service, and this piece is the service part. We have held forums on sex trafficking. We have given donations. We've supported other organizations in their efforts in sex trafficking. And we've also put um documents in different areas where young ladies [0:08:39, 0:08:59]: ladies um girls are vulnerable to um this issue that is going on. So that information that had been put in different bathrooms in the airport, bus stations, truck stops, those types of areas where there is a hotline number where they can get help. So we thank you so much. [0:08:59, 0:09:05]: Ford and Council for this recognition of our service that we provide. Thank you so much. [0:09:05, 0:09:17]: You're welcome. You're welcome. And by the way, I've got I have this in my home, so I'm gonna have to work out a process to get this to you. Okay. So so we'll within the next week, several days a week, we'll get somehow get this to you, okay? [0:09:17, 0:09:24]: Yes, thank you so much. We appreciate it. All right, Mayor Pro Tem uh Alexander, since you brought this forward, so you have any remarks at this time? [0:09:27, 0:09:32]: Uh yes, sir. Sorry about that. I was on mute. I'd like to thank uh Henry County Delta Sigma Theta. [0:09:33, 0:09:37]: And president Avernath, they they do such a great job in servicing the community. [0:09:38, 0:09:42]: And yes, I too uh tuned into a lot of the information that they had. [0:09:42, 0:09:48]: uh provided on sex trafficking. They've been in this uh since uh the information came about. [0:09:48, 0:09:55]: And they've actually led and been in the forefront. So everything that we can do in particular into recognizing. [0:09:56, 0:09:58]: Uh sex trafficking, human trafficking. [0:09:58, 0:10:02]: Just accused of k kids not being able to look you into the eye or [0:10:02, 0:10:04]: You know, someone paying too much. [0:10:04, 0:10:05]: You know, watching over a child. [0:10:06, 0:10:10]: Or or some uh or some strange occurred or something just didn't feel right about that. [0:10:11, 0:10:15]: particular instance or that interaction between uh the two individuals. [0:10:16, 0:10:21]: Those things are key because everybody has to have uh a set of eyes. It's all of us. [0:10:21, 0:10:26]: uh in this battle together. So I certainly appreciate Henry County Delta Sigma Theta. [0:10:26, 0:10:28]: And understanding that stop ridge led the way. [0:10:29, 0:10:30]: In twenty sixteen bringing [0:10:30, 0:10:32]: The first human trafficking. [0:10:32, 0:10:35]: Awareness uh proclamation to Henry County. [0:10:35, 0:10:39]: And today it is needed more than ever. So thank you, President Evernet. [0:10:40, 0:10:40]: Thank you much. [0:10:41, 0:10:42]: Right. [0:10:42, 0:10:45]: On that note, we'll move on. Public comments. Um [0:10:46, 0:10:48]: Vanessa, we have any public comments at all. [0:10:48, 0:10:51]: Yes, Mayor, we do have a public comment. [0:10:51, 0:10:53]: Uh the um [0:10:55, 0:11:00]: The individual signed this a concerned resident in the Glen Addy subdivision. [0:11:00, 0:11:20]: Okay, to whom it may concern, in light of the proposed improvements and additions that have been promoted at various points since the cityhood fight, I was wondering where we stood on one of the most pressing issues coming out of the struggle: shoring up the city's boundaries so that the attempts to de-annex [0:11:20, 0:11:22]: Would be a non starter. [0:11:22, 0:11:29]: Another year has passed. We work too hard as citizens to see our efforts go by the wayside. [0:11:30, 0:11:40]: This item should be of utmost importance to you as referenced by our state senator. What progress has been made toward this effort? [0:11:41, 0:11:45]: We have also seen social media posts on the progress of the amphitheater. [0:11:45, 0:11:47]: Typically these types of project [0:11:47, 0:11:50]: projects will have a budgetary concern. [0:11:51, 0:12:02]: And at some point, updates are given as whether the project is on budget, under budget, or over budget because of unforeseen cost. Where do we stand? Citizens want to know. [0:12:03, 0:12:09]: Earlier there was a vote on a mask mandate, which was defeated by a three two vote of the council. [0:12:09, 0:12:23]: What are the protocols that are in place for businesses and parks? On sunny days, Memorial Park's basketball court is full of maskless individuals. As you know, the virus is raging in Henry County. [0:12:23, 0:12:26]: In McDonough, the golds have been removed. [0:12:26, 0:12:35]: In most public parks, do we not care about the health of our citizens in Stockbridge? And again, it is signed that concerned citizens. [0:12:35, 0:12:37]: From the Glen Addy subdivision. [0:12:37, 0:12:39]: There are no further comments, Mayor. [0:12:39, 0:12:42]: Okay. I remember that. I actually responded to that email to that uh [0:12:43, 0:12:44]: That concerns citizen. [0:12:45, 0:12:53]: And I believe someone else also responded to him as well in this aspect. But um okay. Um [0:12:54, 0:13:04]: Well, all those items have been at least with that individual. I I don't know if we need to go in a whole lot of detail on this now uh in reference to this, but um uh [0:13:04, 0:13:14]: Well all those items have been addressed over the past uh months in reference to uh what we do and how we do and we're trying to be very transparent in in all our messages here. [0:13:14, 0:13:18]: That's the last one. I'll I'll stop right there at that point. [0:13:18, 0:13:24]: uh old business, but the old business deals with a council consideration for establishing voting precincts. [0:13:25, 0:13:27]: Uh is it yes, ma'am. [0:13:28, 0:13:35]: Mayor, and unless Mr. Knighton objects, we were going to ask that this item be tabled because the Henry County Elections Director [0:13:36, 0:13:44]: And the polling coordinator were unable to attend tonight. They um had a conflict that came about. So we were going to ask that this item be tabled. [0:13:45, 0:13:51]: All right. So we here do we have any idea when they may very well want to come back and be available to give us a briefing. [0:13:52, 0:13:54]: We would have to coordinate those schedules again. [0:13:55, 0:14:03]: Um, we had it all set for them to attend tonight, but there was something that came up yesterday. We got the email, so we wanna exit that item be tabled. [0:14:04, 0:14:08]: Ms. Kent, Ms. Kent, go ahead, please. Mayor, I move that we m table this item. [0:14:08, 0:14:09]: All right, is there a second? [0:14:10, 0:14:11]: Second. [0:14:11, 0:14:12]: Right. [0:14:12, 0:14:13]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:14:15, 0:14:17]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [0:14:18, 0:14:30]: What was next was a public hearing. Um, council consideration to approve the 2020, 2020 to 2025 work term, excuse me, short term work program and capital improvements element. [0:14:31, 0:14:32]: Mr. Knighton, please. [0:14:34, 0:14:39]: Yes, Mayor Ford and Council. This is as you mentioned a public hearing item. [0:14:39, 0:14:51]: uh for the short-term work program and CIE update uh for the city of Stockbridge. This item uh identifies a number of different projects and let me just briefly explain for the viewing audience. [0:14:51, 0:15:00]: Um, comprehensive plans are usually established about every 10 years. Um, the city went through a comprehensive plan, full comprehensive plan process just a few years ago. [0:15:01, 0:15:14]: And in the interim, the state requires that there are certain updates that are provided annually on a regular basis. Um, and this is a part of that the short-term work program CIE update is a part of. [0:15:14, 0:15:18]: that interim update which is required by DCA. [0:15:19, 0:15:22]: If you approve this tonight, it'll be transmitted to the Atlanta Regional Commission. [0:15:22, 0:15:27]: And they will then review and transmit to the Department of Community Affairs at the state level. [0:15:27, 0:15:32]: What this essentially calls for is the identification of various projects. [0:15:33, 0:15:35]: The funding sources that are associated with them. [0:15:36, 0:15:39]: And then the status um of the project. [0:15:39, 0:15:41]: Or of the projects. [0:15:41, 0:15:48]: Um, this you've seen on the last couple of years. And again, as an annual update, it's being brought forward to you. [0:15:49, 0:15:52]: Uh, now for uh your review and approval. [0:15:52, 0:15:54]: It's part of the trans transmission. [0:15:55, 0:15:57]: to ARC and DCA. [0:15:57, 0:16:02]: Um, they will review it. If they sign off on it, they will send it back to us for. [0:16:02, 0:16:04]: An actual adoption. [0:16:05, 0:16:10]: You'll notice a couple of uh items there. And if I can share my screen for just a moment. [0:16:12, 0:16:15]: Mr. Bonds, if you would let me share my screen. [0:16:17, 0:16:19]: Or Mayor Ford, I think you may be the host as well. [0:16:21, 0:16:22]: I just go and hit share screen. [0:16:25, 0:16:26]: Alright, there we go. [0:16:31, 0:16:35]: All right, I'll just uh briefly go over this item. As you can see, you all have this in your packet. [0:16:36, 0:16:51]: But for instance, there are a number of items on here that deal with uh def certain projects that we've been dealing with over the past couple of years. In particular, I'd mentioned the amphitheater, as you can see, in progress under construction, as well as the cultural arts center. [0:16:51, 0:16:53]: Uh there number seven item number seven. [0:16:54, 0:16:59]: Um at 14 million dollars. You'll see that was uh reflective of the previous approval. [0:16:59, 0:17:02]: Uh last month of the city council. [0:17:02, 0:17:07]: about a funding uh mechanism uh by which the uh cultural arts center would be funded. [0:17:08, 0:17:11]: Um and the actual dollar amount uh that was on there. [0:17:12, 0:17:15]: You'll see a number of other items uh that have been [0:17:15, 0:17:17]: In progress over the last [0:17:17, 0:17:20]: couple of years. Again, this is an update. [0:17:20, 0:17:23]: Of those items and um [0:17:23, 0:17:26]: Uh it's something that again is required by DCA. [0:17:26, 0:17:31]: Um we'll transmit this to um the Atlanta Regional Commission if you should approve it. [0:17:32, 0:17:35]: I would mention also that a number of these items are goals. [0:17:36, 0:17:40]: And things that the city hopes to accomplish over a period of time over the life of the comprehensive plan. [0:17:41, 0:17:42]: Um itself. [0:17:43, 0:17:46]: Um and again they are shown as updates. [0:17:46, 0:17:48]: Um every year to be [0:17:49, 0:17:51]: Um Atlanta Regional Commission and DCA. [0:17:54, 0:17:56]: Also, any questions for Mr. Knight at all? [0:17:57, 0:17:59]: Mr Member Protein, go ahead, please. [0:18:00, 0:18:18]: Thank you, sir. Uh Mr. Knight, I always like to take this opportunity to kind of review some of the projects that we're working on so the citizens kind of understand. Of course, we're informing uh the Atlanta Regional Commission because uh the city has a comprehensive plan now and we [0:18:18, 0:18:21]: План десь проєкті сау стратегічли. [0:18:21, 0:18:23]: Could you sort of talk about [0:18:23, 0:18:25]: А номер проєкта. [0:18:25, 0:18:27]: The amphitheater [0:18:27, 0:18:30]: The culture art center, the public works building. [0:18:30, 0:18:34]: All those projects that are key. [0:18:34, 0:18:42]: uh to where we're trying to go to the city. So the city addict actually know that they're coming, including, I guess if you would, uh also the um [0:18:42, 0:18:53]: the uh recreation center that we have uh under design uh as well is in design but it's still a project that we look forward to executing uh uh [0:18:54, 0:19:01]: Sure, I'll briefly go over those. Uh of course I'll start with the amphitheater since it is fully under construction right now, and then anybody who passes by City Hall can see. [0:19:02, 0:19:03]: The great progress that is made. [0:19:04, 0:19:09]: Um and also I would mention that we'll have some updates on the amphitheater at the next meeting. [0:19:09, 0:19:14]: Uh, related to the progress, uh, related to the cost, as someone mentioned earlier in public comment. [0:19:14, 0:19:22]: And related to the overall uh development of the amphitheater itself. Of course, the amphitheater was a part of an LCI Liverpool City's initiative. [0:19:22, 0:19:40]: Uh that was done uh several years ago in the city of Stockbridge. And due to the leadership of our current city council, we've been able to move that project forward and go vertical. It of course will serve as a catalyst to bring people downtown that will assist in revitalizing the downtown, which is part of the city's overall vision. [0:19:40, 0:19:41]: Uh for um [0:19:42, 0:19:43]: The uh the uh [0:19:44, 0:19:44]: B. [0:19:45, 0:19:48]: Development of our downtown core area. [0:19:48, 0:19:55]: And um the cultural arts center is also consistent with that. The cultural arts center location, of course, has been identified. [0:19:56, 0:19:59]: The conceptual plans that are in final stages include [0:19:59, 0:20:01]: A three hundred plus uh seat ballroom. [0:20:02, 0:20:05]: As well as uh over about a three hundred and fifteen seat. [0:20:06, 0:20:16]: theater, as well as other uh meeting rooms and uh museum, uh meeting rooms that would be conducive for ballet, culinary arts, uh, et cetera. [0:20:17, 0:20:23]: Also, uh the city is parking on uh working on its trail plan as well, of course, uh previously the last month. [0:20:24, 0:20:29]: City identified funds uh via Splost Five and and the bonding mechanism. [0:20:29, 0:20:31]: To be able to fund [0:20:31, 0:20:35]: Um all of these projects. And then lastly I would mention the uh [0:20:35, 0:20:36]: The senior and youth center. [0:20:37, 0:20:41]: Uh, that we have in concept stage right now, still working through concept stage. [0:20:42, 0:20:44]: That you the council have seen. [0:20:44, 0:20:58]: Um that calls for um uh a full uh gymnasium, uh basketball court, meeting rooms, uh swimming pool, indoor track, and other amenities that would go along with that, of course. [0:20:58, 0:21:03]: Uh that uh is an item that we'll continue to uh can keep in our [0:21:04, 0:21:11]: our view as we uh complete these other uh projects. And so all of these projects conjoined are intended to [0:21:11, 0:21:17]: Enhance the quality of life of uh Stockbridge uh citizens, residents, and those who visit the city. [0:21:17, 0:21:20]: To assist in economic development opportunities. [0:21:21, 0:21:23]: And to ensure that the city's vision [0:21:23, 0:21:28]: Of being the most progressive and business friendly city in Metro Atlanta. [0:21:28, 0:21:29]: is ultimately meant. [0:21:30, 0:21:33]: Well, if I could follow up with a follow up question, Mayor. [0:21:34, 0:21:34]: Right. [0:21:35, 0:21:38]: In terms of those projects and the planning process. [0:21:38, 0:21:41]: And the city having a overall comprehensive plan. [0:21:42, 0:21:46]: Uh, these things are d they don't just pop up. We have a solid plan. [0:21:46, 0:21:50]: That we're working on that uh we have charted out and that we submit. [0:21:50, 0:21:53]: to the Atlanta regional commission that everybody could take a look at. [0:21:54, 0:21:56]: And the citizens are always concerned about [0:21:57, 0:22:03]: the finances and and how does that look. And it the the the city's in a strong financial position. Is that correct? [0:22:06, 0:22:17]: I'll respond. Yes, the the city is in a very strong financial position. Um, obviously, a fund balance is very strong. As we continue to consider these projects and construct these projects. [0:22:17, 0:22:37]: Of course, there will be always the review by the relevant financial advisors for the council, for the citizens to be able to view, to ensure that we continue to be fiscally sound and how monies are expended, of course, leveraging other sources of revenue such as grant opportunities. [0:22:37, 0:22:39]: But as well as plus five. [0:22:39, 0:22:47]: Um, which was approved by the voters and uh accounts for an estimated twenty point twenty point five million dollars. [0:22:47, 0:22:50]: For the siti of Stockbridge and of course later this year. [0:22:50, 0:22:54]: I santicipated that there will be a T Splost, a transportation splast. [0:22:54, 0:22:57]: It will be on the ballot in November for voters to consider. [0:22:58, 0:22:58]: Thank you, sir. [0:23:00, 0:23:02]: Council, any other questions for Mr. Knight and all? [0:23:03, 0:23:03]: Anybody? [0:23:05, 0:23:08]: All right, seeing none. In that case, this is um [0:23:08, 0:23:09]: Public hearing. [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: So I need to open it up for any public comment. So [0:23:12, 0:23:25]: I like to do that and are the uh anybody that has any any public out there has any comments uh in favor of this work plan, this short term work plan that we're going to send to the DCA. [0:23:26, 0:23:33]: I don't know if whether Vanessa or anybody else can tell me if there's anybody out there that would be four. I have not seen any. [0:23:33, 0:23:38]: Okay, anybody against? Uh I would imagine you probably don't see anybody there either, I'm assuming. [0:23:40, 0:23:49]: Nothing. No, sir. All right. So uh Mr. Williams opened for and against, no comments, so I will close it. [0:23:49, 0:23:50]: Okay. [0:23:50, 0:23:57]: Public hearing is now closed. All right. On that note, council, I need a motion to accept the work plan, please. [0:23:57, 0:24:04]: Okay Councilwoman Grant, thank you. Well you have a comment I move to accept the work plan. [0:24:04, 0:24:05]: Okay, good. Is there a second? [0:24:06, 0:24:07]: That's the point. [0:24:07, 0:24:08]: Also. [0:24:09, 0:24:10]: Mr. Thomas seconds that. [0:24:10, 0:24:11]: Yes. [0:24:11, 0:24:13]: All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:24:15, 0:24:17]: All right, unanimous. Outstanding. Appreciate that. [0:24:18, 0:24:19]: New business. [0:24:19, 0:24:23]: Council consideration to approve a participation in the gray bar. [0:24:24, 0:24:25]: Was it Omni? [0:24:25, 0:24:27]: uh partners program. [0:24:28, 0:24:32]: Uh was O M I O M N N I A contract. [0:24:32, 0:24:39]: EV two twenty three seventy for installation of a new phone system via spectrum VOIP and amount of uh [0:24:39, 0:24:40]: Two thousand [0:24:41, 0:24:44]: Two hundred seven dollars and thirty seven cents per month. [0:24:44, 0:24:46]: Funding source information technology. [0:24:47, 0:24:49]: And it's presented by Mr. Knighton. [0:24:49, 0:24:51]: And Jonathan Van Horn. [0:24:51, 0:24:55]: In a lower Matwig, Madwig, I guess it is. All right. [0:24:56, 0:25:16]: All right, uh please go ahead. Yes, uh yeah, Mayor, thank you. Um this um item is something we're we're attempting to modernize and and progress in terms of technology or overall phone system for um our various uh staff members and offices, uh a voice operated uh internet system. [0:25:16, 0:25:27]: um that we are bringing forward. Ms. Holliday, myself, um, Mr. Wiggins have kind of worked on this um um item and uh tried to get it to a point where we could bring it to you. [0:25:27, 0:25:30]: Again, it's a matter of modernization and and attempting to [0:25:31, 0:25:34]: Enhanced our overall phone system. [0:25:34, 0:25:39]: Um I will defer to uh Mr. Uh Van Horn and Miss Mathwid. [0:25:39, 0:25:45]: I believe are on here uh to speak to the technical aspects of the overall. [0:25:45, 0:25:49]: uh proposal and how they would um enhance our systems. [0:25:50, 0:26:10]: Thank you very much. We appreciate your time. Um, again, I know you guys got a lot of things on your plate, but thanks for taking the time to hear us out. Um, we would propose a hosted system for the entire city, uh the five buildings that you have there, including the amphitheater. And basically, since it's hosted, everything's on our side. Only thing you guys are going to need are the IP phones. Uh, we'll come in and install everything. [0:26:10, 0:26:28]: course the system support, everything that's necessary will be handled on our end. And then of course, with it being a voice over IP solution, you guys do have the ability to leverage the cloud. And of course allow you guys transfer calls and every functionality you could want from a modern phone system. [0:26:28, 0:26:39]: So I know that uh Randy and Vanessa and and uh the rest of your team, we've been kind of conversing for the last few months and seemed like it's a good fit, but we went to bring it to the board and see what questions you had and see what we can do to. [0:26:40, 0:26:41]: Get our system into your city there. [0:26:43, 0:26:43]: Okay. [0:26:44, 0:26:45]: Um [0:26:45, 0:27:02]: Great. You said five you said five buildings. I'm assuming that obviously if if we want to expand with more buildings, it can easily be accessible to expand to these buildings in the uh in the future. Absolutely, sir. We'd love to hear that. Yes, sir. As you guys grow, we'll grow with you as well. [0:27:02, 0:27:02]: Okay. [0:27:03, 0:27:09]: All right. Let me make make sure. I'm sorry. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead, Mr. Knight. I'm sorry, Mary. Yeah, I don't I want to make sure though when we talk about [0:27:10, 0:27:17]: The monthly cost, there's also an an overall cost in terms of equipment. So we need to make sure that council understands what that overall cost is going to be. [0:27:18, 0:27:19]: Yeah. [0:27:20, 0:27:21]: I apologize, didn't mean to cut you off there, Mayor. [0:27:21, 0:27:37]: I was saying but then what is that overall uh overall cost? Great question. Uh that$2,000 on a monthly basis includes all of your expenses. Uh that is for the system support installation, unlimited training, all of the equipment itself. Uh it's all embodied into that monthly recurring charge. [0:27:39, 0:27:39]: Okay. [0:27:40, 0:27:40]: All right. [0:27:41, 0:27:43]: Counsel, any questions you may have? [0:27:43, 0:27:44]: For Mr. Van Horn. [0:27:44, 0:27:46]: Uh Map Pro Tem, go ahead, please. [0:27:46, 0:27:55]: Uh yes, sir. Uh talk about uh the system that you're installing and the advancements versus uh the the system that you're replacing. [0:27:56, 0:28:16]: Great question. Um, so with us, it is fully hosted. So again, nothing's on your side but the phones. But every functionality comes at no additional cost. I'm sure you guys have probably seen many phone systems, and as they may give you a standard setup as your needs change, the price changes. With us, it's all included. Um, so you know, of course, the ability to transfer costs. [0:28:16, 0:28:29]: calls, monitor calls, record conversations. Everyone has their own voicemail. Everyone has their own two to six digit extension for transferring throughout the city there. Of course we have mobile [0:28:30, 0:28:40]: So everyone can download the app, calls from the app, it'll mask your cell phone number. It looks like you're calling right from the office, send and receive text messages. You can have a soft phone right on your desktop or your laptop. They're about [0:28:40, 0:28:48]: About a hundred different features that come at no additional cost. And not to say you'll use them all, but as your needs change, we'll change with you without that price changing as well. [0:28:49, 0:28:51]: Okay, so when Steph is working off site. [0:28:52, 0:28:55]: Or what have you, those phone calls will we will be able to roll over. [0:28:56, 0:29:00]: uh to them and they will be able to operate, especially in this covet environment. [0:29:00, 0:29:01]: As if they're in the office. [0:29:02, 0:29:22]: Yes, sir. You need to join our team because that's exactly what we sell on. Um, the fact that right now no one can be in the office, obviously, you guys have an important job to do and you're all meeting here. You guys have the ability to take our phones anywhere. Take it to your house, plug it into your home internet, I call it your office, it'll ring your house. Just like you're in now in the building, transfer calls from one place to the next. Uh Laura and I, we're on the exact same system. [0:29:22, 0:29:30]: She's in Texas. She could hit my extension, my poner ring, just like I'm sitting right next to her. Every one of these functionalities are things you guys can take advantage of as well. [0:29:31, 0:29:38]: Okay. And uh Mr. Knight, maybe you can answer this question. So uh in terms of us moving forward with the amphitheater. [0:29:39, 0:29:43]: And the YMAX and uh uh being available and that type of thing. [0:29:43, 0:29:45]: Does this involve that or no? [0:29:45, 0:29:52]: No, I don't think this involves that. We've had conversations with our internet or our IT provider, Interdev, I'm sorry. [0:29:52, 0:29:56]: About those aspects of the amphitheater. [0:29:57, 0:30:02]: This would this would essentially strictly be dealing with the phone systems, if I understand your correct question correctly. [0:30:03, 0:30:04]: Yes, that's it. Uh huh. [0:30:05, 0:30:05]: Thank you. [0:30:06, 0:30:07]: Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [0:30:08, 0:30:09]: Thank you. [0:30:09, 0:30:17]: Um, Mr. Knighton, have we had some issues with our phone system? I'm trying to figure out is this a uh is this cost efficient? [0:30:17, 0:30:18]: What [0:30:18, 0:30:32]: Why today? What what's going on? I haven't received any notice about it. So I just want to know get a heads up on Sure. Sure. Our phone system has been in the current phone system and some one of the other staff members can help me, but certainly since I've been there and I believe beyond that. [0:30:33, 0:30:39]: Uh before that. So it's been in several years, the current system that we have or phone apparatus that we have. [0:30:40, 0:30:46]: And this would allow us to move to a more modernized system with the additional features that Mr. Van Horn. [0:30:46, 0:30:47]: had mentioned before. [0:30:48, 0:30:52]: Um, we do think it will be uh cost efficient. I mean, obviously we we [0:30:52, 0:30:57]: Account for that in our current budget. And John, if John may be able to speak to it more specifically. [0:30:58, 0:31:01]: in terms of the overall cost as related to our our current budget. [0:31:02, 0:31:04]: But we would see this as um a [0:31:06, 0:31:20]: uh enhancement to what we're doing now and a modernization of our our um existing phone system and allow us to grow as Mr. Van Horn said, we'll be able to grow the system as the staff needs grow and also [0:31:20, 0:31:23]: with the amphitheater at well as well in that system. [0:31:24, 0:31:31]: And so um this we think is a more cost efficient way to go than continuing with the current systems that we currently have. [0:31:33, 0:31:40]: All right. And Mr. Wiggins, then can you give us the budget? Is it within our budget that we already have set or what's the difference? [0:31:41, 0:31:43]: It is within our budget right now. [0:31:44, 0:31:49]: We pay we pay three vendors. We pay Airspring about fifty seven thousand dollars. [0:31:50, 0:32:02]: a year. Uh that is for our long distance calling. We pay Milner our support service maintenance for about 5,000, about 5200 [0:32:02, 0:32:03]: A year. [0:32:04, 0:32:07]: And then the last thing we pay ATT. [0:32:07, 0:32:14]: Club service for all the lines. I think back in two thousand thirteen, two thousand twelve, two thousand thirteen. [0:32:15, 0:32:21]: We paid for the phones that we have on our desk right now. They're basic right now obsolete. [0:32:22, 0:32:42]: Uh I think with this system here, by going to the cloud, we will be getting new phones. We will be able to uh got a lot of amenities that comes with it. Um I think Mr. Horn, you know, he can probably explain more about uh we'll be able to have meetings like this on a regular basis. [0:32:42, 0:32:42]: Yeah. [0:32:43, 0:32:45]: You know, it enhances um [0:32:45, 0:32:50]: uh Zoom meeting capability. We also it would help with that facts because we pay [0:32:51, 0:32:54]: We pay about hundred seventy two dollars. [0:32:54, 0:32:58]: monthly for fast and that this right here will take care of that. [0:32:58, 0:33:11]: So um we have a number of things that once this system is in place, everything's going into the cloud, we will get with our IT department and see how we can uh reduce some of the other costs that we are. [0:33:11, 0:33:24]: occurring uh you know occurring um uh monthly because thirty one thousand plus fifty seven thousand plus fifty two hundred, you know, we you know we get this system and we can save us some money. [0:33:25, 0:33:25]: So [0:33:27, 0:33:28]: Thank you so much. [0:33:28, 0:33:29]: Mm-hmm. [0:33:30, 0:33:32]: All right, council. Any other questions? Uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [0:33:35, 0:33:38]: Wanted to ask. Um so [0:33:39, 0:33:43]: This requires us to enter into an agreement. [0:33:44, 0:33:45]: With this company? [0:33:47, 0:33:49]: Do you have to sign a contract with them? [0:33:51, 0:34:11]: Mr. Mayor, uh yes, it's the this proposal came unsolicited, um, but but it's proposed that the we use a uh cooperative agreement uh uh through their uh partner organization, Gray Bar. Um they have a cooperative agreement that originated out of Kansas City. [0:34:11, 0:34:19]: And so it's proposed that that be the a the vehicle uh through which we procure these phones. [0:34:19, 0:34:21]: Okay, I understand that. [0:34:21, 0:34:23]: Um so with the [0:34:23, 0:34:27]: Other phones that are net will will be obsolete. [0:34:28, 0:34:33]: Are we able to get credit for those? I mean, what's gonna happen to those phones? [0:34:36, 0:34:39]: I'm not sure about getting credit, but I know what what we [0:34:39, 0:34:39]: Mm. [0:34:40, 0:34:55]: We'll um inventory them and then they'll probably be added to the Gov Deal uh list and see if we can put it out there and see if we can get something back on um uh through Gov Deal. But as far as getting a credit um for those phones. [0:34:55, 0:35:01]: Uh I think Mr Horn then we'll probably have to take a look at him. I I don't I I I'm I'm not sure about it as far as the credit. [0:35:02, 0:35:22]: Well, great question. Um, so I know we don't have any kind of platform to take your your your older equipment, but a part of our services would bring in the brand new phones at no additional cost. Now again, I know you maybe have a few different avenues that maybe you could uh do something with those phones there. We wouldn't have a market for them, um, but it would still reduce your monthly cost and increase your [0:35:22, 0:35:26]: functionalities, brand new phones for everyone that we come in and install. [0:35:26, 0:35:27]: Pre charge. [0:35:27, 0:35:29]: Okay, thank you. [0:35:30, 0:35:32]: Anybody else? [0:35:32, 0:35:33]: And Miss Scant, go ahead, please. [0:35:34, 0:35:37]: Mayor, I would just like to make a motion that we approve this. [0:35:38, 0:35:41]: Um, it's been stated that it's cost efficient. It'll bring us up to date. [0:35:42, 0:35:49]: Um, that our phones are now obsolete and that we are actually within budget. Sounds like a plan. [0:35:50, 0:35:52]: All right. Is there that's a motion, is there a second? [0:35:54, 0:35:57]: Miss Barber seconds that motion. Any further discussion? [0:35:58, 0:36:00]: If not all in favor, please indicate. [0:36:01, 0:36:15]: Unanimous decision. Um, I just want to ask uh Laura, did you have anything you wanted to add? We've all we just voted at, but I didn't you didn't say anything. I didn't know if you needed I was just here to support Jay in this whole conversation in case there was any questions that I needed to answer, but [0:36:15, 0:36:21]: Everything everything and we provide all documentation for you guys earlier and had a call, so I think we're good to go. [0:36:22, 0:36:27]: Appreciate it. You're in Texas. So out of curiosity, Jay, where are you located? I am in Lilburn, Georgia. [0:36:28, 0:36:37]: Okay. Good deal. All right. Fantastic. Well, you're welcome to stay as long as you like. We're gonna move on to our next thing. Okay. Next thank you for having us. Thank you. Thank you so much, guys. Okay. [0:36:38, 0:36:48]: Uh council consideration to approve Falcon Design Consultants Task Order Number 2021.01 to review the amphitheater master plan. [0:36:49, 0:36:52]: For rye sharing area in amount of uh fifteen hundred dollars. [0:36:53, 0:36:56]: A funding source amphitheater project. Mr. Knighton, please. [0:36:57, 0:37:03]: Uh yes, Mr. Ford. I I simply mentioned uh we had some mode of a discussion about this at a previous meeting. [0:37:04, 0:37:07]: Related to a ride sharing location for [0:37:07, 0:37:12]: The amphitheater project and as well. [0:37:12, 0:37:16]: And the task order, um, while it is within my authority to approve. [0:37:17, 0:37:27]: Wanted to bring it back uh to you just as a matter of information and discussion of the overall empathy of the project. What we're attempting to do here um and I think [0:37:27, 0:37:28]: Um [0:37:28, 0:37:29]: Uh [0:37:30, 0:37:40]: Uh Councilman Tom Thomas had also uh mentioned this uh previously as well. And that's what generated, I believe, the discussion. And so had further discussions with Falcon Design. [0:37:40, 0:37:47]: And um uh discussed uh the prospect of them reviewing all of the amphitheater plans, the [0:37:48, 0:38:07]: Amphitheater proper itself, the vertical construction area, the parking areas, the road improvement areas for Lee Street and also East Atlanta. Look at the entire campus to determine the most appropriate location for a ride-sharing location for the amphitheater. Obviously, for the 3200 plus seat amphitheater project. [0:38:08, 0:38:12]: Um, there will be a number of people who will be visiting the location on a regular basis. [0:38:13, 0:38:17]: And so uh in this day and age, as you know, uh people [0:38:17, 0:38:21]: I tend to use ride sharing via via various forms. [0:38:21, 0:38:24]: To be able to access their entertainment venues. [0:38:25, 0:38:33]: And so in order to reduce the amount of parking, reduce the congestion, all of those things, we wanted to and for the customer service experience. [0:38:33, 0:38:38]: Wanted to be able to uh provide a rideshare location that's appropriate on the amphitheater. [0:38:38, 0:38:46]: uh campus itself. This would allow faculty design. They would go through the all of the plans, as I said, the parking areas, the the the roadway. [0:38:46, 0:38:51]: uh improvements as well, determine the uh best location for uh the ride share. [0:38:51, 0:38:52]: Um [0:38:52, 0:38:52]: Uh [0:38:52, 0:38:54]: venue to take place. [0:38:55, 0:38:58]: Okay. Um uh Thomas, can I say? [0:38:58, 0:38:59]: Thank you. [0:39:00, 0:39:07]: Mr. Nine, I'd like to just thank you for honoring my request to bring this back um for the council. [0:39:07, 0:39:12]: um to add the ride sharing to the uh amphitheater master plan. [0:39:13, 0:39:16]: Uh as you mentioned earlier, you know, this amenity [0:39:16, 0:39:19]: uh to the landscape is is forward thinking. [0:39:20, 0:39:24]: Um, we know that parking and traffic is going to be an issue. [0:39:24, 0:39:26]: And um [0:39:26, 0:39:33]: I I think this give patrons uh an alternate uh means of um enjoying. [0:39:33, 0:39:35]: What we have to offer. [0:39:35, 0:39:39]: Um and I would just say that citizens that that may live one [0:39:40, 0:39:41]: То три майз авиа. [0:39:42, 0:39:45]: uh may not just want to drive anyway. [0:39:46, 0:39:55]: And so um Uber, Lyft, and other means of transportation will probably be, you know, their means of of traveling. [0:39:55, 0:39:58]: And let me just add, um [0:39:59, 0:40:04]: I've gotten into the new uh federal administration. [0:40:05, 0:40:06]: uh climate [0:40:07, 0:40:08]: Um [0:40:09, 0:40:10]: Environmental issue. [0:40:11, 0:40:13]: And something that they are proposing. [0:40:14, 0:40:17]: Ізлиминет [0:40:17, 0:40:19]: Uh combustion [0:40:20, 0:40:22]: Вігаколс а [0:40:22, 0:40:25]: And you know, going toward uh twenty thirty. [0:40:26, 0:40:29]: Um GM Ford [0:40:29, 0:40:31]: Um, all of the labor unions. [0:40:32, 0:40:33]: Everyone is involved. [0:40:34, 0:40:36]: I I don't know um [0:40:36, 0:40:39]: If it's going to be fulfilled, but i if it does [0:40:40, 0:40:47]: Um, you know, I'm I'm a little concerned about the environment, you know, the the greenhouse gases and all that kind of thing. So [0:40:47, 0:41:06]: You know, this whole thing of getting cars um, you know, off the street, I think this plays into it. And I just want to just add that caveat to it. Um, you know, we just need to be a little conscious of um, you know, getting some of these cars off the road. And I think this is going to just in the immediate future. [0:41:06, 0:41:09]: I I think this is going to lend itself to that. [0:41:09, 0:41:11]: We know that traffic. [0:41:12, 0:41:12]: Parking. [0:41:13, 0:41:18]: it's gonna be a problem. So if we can add this amenity to this, I think it's gonna help that. [0:41:18, 0:41:23]: So again, Mr. Knight, I just want to thank you for for bringing that. And I know it probably other discussion. [0:41:23, 0:41:26]: But I will go forward in uh motion. [0:41:27, 0:41:38]: uh to for council to direct the city manager to to move forward with this under his authority, under his financial authority uh to move forward with this. [0:41:39, 0:41:40]: Second. [0:41:40, 0:41:41]: Hi. [0:41:41, 0:41:45]: Mr. Alexander, mayor pretend Alexander second that. Any further discussion? [0:41:46, 0:41:46]: Yeah, uh I do. [0:41:47, 0:41:48]: Okay, we're right here, please. [0:41:48, 0:41:51]: I I'd just like to compliment uh councilman Thomas. [0:41:51, 0:41:54]: You know, this is what makes a great team. [0:41:54, 0:41:57]: When you have people that bring something to the table. [0:41:58, 0:42:00]: You know, since I've been serving with him. [0:42:01, 0:42:11]: I have such a such a great respect for him because he he brings something valuable to the table in almost every conversation that we have. [0:42:11, 0:42:21]: And it's so important that when you're occupying this seat, that you bring something forward and that you bring something meaningful to the city that you represent. [0:42:21, 0:42:26]: So when when when when when project big projects like this take place [0:42:26, 0:42:33]: You need everybody thinking about what's going on. And as Mr. Knighton said, this is a forward thinking project. [0:42:33, 0:42:49]: What a missed opportunity this would have been had we not included Rod Sharon. So I I I salute him for bringing this to the table. And this is the kind of leadership that you need where people bring a lunch pail to the um [0:42:50, 0:42:51]: to the table every time. [0:42:52, 0:42:54]: And that they bring something concrete. [0:42:54, 0:42:58]: that our citizens can look forward to in the future. So thank you, sir. [0:42:59, 0:43:01]: All right, thank you. Mr. Bellot, please go ahead. [0:43:02, 0:43:05]: Yeah, I guess my question for Mr. Knight, Mr. Knight, do we have an update [0:43:06, 0:43:11]: As of yet are the expenses of the amphitheater and what the what would be the additional cost for the rap share. [0:43:13, 0:43:25]: Sure. I'd I answer the second question first. Um obviously we need to identify the location of rides here, so I couldn't tell you what that would be. I would not think that that would be an exorbitant cost because it would be a part of the existing footprint. [0:43:25, 0:43:30]: maybe even part of the parking area existing asphalt there. So I wouldn't think that would be a major cost. [0:43:30, 0:43:36]: To to your first question, major question with respect to updated amphitheater next week, or I'm sorry, next meeting. [0:43:37, 0:43:43]: On February eighth, as I've I've mentioned previously, we will have a full update on the amphitheater, including [0:43:43, 0:43:47]: uh some additional costs uh that we've identified to ensure the project stays on [0:43:48, 0:43:48]: Trek. [0:43:49, 0:43:54]: And the project meets the expectations of the council. We will have our financial advisor here. [0:43:54, 0:43:58]: We'll also have members of the construction team here to speak specifically. [0:43:59, 0:44:01]: Uh, to where we are with the amphitheater project. [0:44:01, 0:44:02]: and related costs. [0:44:03, 0:44:05]: Ажіно, мантрсо аго. [0:44:06, 0:44:08]: The council approved a a [0:44:08, 0:44:10]: bonding scenario. [0:44:11, 0:44:12]: Financial advisor. [0:44:12, 0:44:16]: Uh we'll come back and we will lay out specifically and ask you to approve. [0:44:17, 0:44:19]: Um them to go out to market. [0:44:19, 0:44:22]: And to actually put that out. [0:44:22, 0:44:27]: to i to issue the bonds for the project. So you have a full scale update uh the next meeting. [0:44:28, 0:44:31]: regarding the entire amphitheater project and financial costs associated with it. [0:44:34, 0:44:45]: Any other questions or discussion for uh well for Mr. I say Mr. anybody for Mr. Thomas, Mr. Knighton. Okay, the motion is made and seconded. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:44:46, 0:44:52]: Fantastic, unanimous decision. Outstanding. What we had next uh was the add-on and deals with the moratorium. [0:44:53, 0:45:02]: And reference to a development dealing with pines if I got it right. And um, I would think uh Mr. Williams, how about you starting this off? [0:45:06, 0:45:07]: Mister Mayor um [0:45:07, 0:45:15]: It has been proposed that the city adopt a moratorium on the acceptance of any applications of any kind. [0:45:15, 0:45:35]: for uh any uh developments involving residential rental properties. So that would include uh building permits, land land disturbance permits, anything of that type. And this is in response to the uh issue raised at the beginning of the meeting by [0:45:35, 0:45:38]: the mayor Pro Tem, um there there's been a [0:45:39, 0:45:48]: uh a development in the city uh that has been acquired or most of the remaining lots of if if not all the remaining lots have been [0:45:48, 0:46:02]: acquired um for the purpose of all the those houses, single family homes to be uh built and uh made available for rent as opposed to purchase and um for owner occupation. [0:46:03, 0:46:08]: Um and so the the resolution before you does essentially that for a period [0:46:08, 0:46:14]: Of a hundred and eighty days to allow staff um to review the matter and to [0:46:14, 0:46:18]: Address uh how to uh ensure that [0:46:18, 0:46:25]: Um th this isn't uh doesn't become you know prevalent throughout the entire city and and and [0:46:25, 0:46:32]: you know, come to terms with, you know, a way of addressing it. And so, um I see Mayor Pro Tem would like to speak. [0:46:33, 0:46:38]: Well yeah, I'm gonna I'll send it to Mayor Pro Tem. I'm gonna get you in a second, Ms. Cant. Mayor Protam, go ahead, please. [0:46:38, 0:46:42]: Yes, uh you know, this came to my attention as I was [0:46:42, 0:46:43]: Uh, perus in the city. [0:46:44, 0:46:49]: And I know that this council uh approved the Pine View neighborhood for approval. [0:46:50, 0:46:58]: Uh a part of what it what I want what I always do is to go back and see what the result are results are of the decisions that we made. [0:46:59, 0:47:00]: Let let me make this clear. [0:47:01, 0:47:05]: The majority of this neighborhood still remains empty. [0:47:06, 0:47:12]: And not only did this developer, it seems, seek to uh deceive us. [0:47:12, 0:47:19]: They originally had a sign out there for Pine View Subdivision that said two hundred thousand dollars and above. [0:47:20, 0:47:22]: That sign was changed. [0:47:22, 0:47:23]: It says now. [0:47:24, 0:47:26]: Rick new homes. [0:47:26, 0:47:29]: Sixteen hundred dollars a month. [0:47:29, 0:47:35]: There are at least thirty to thirty five lots that haven't even been touched. [0:47:35, 0:47:38]: So they bought all of the remaining lats. [0:47:38, 0:47:52]: Most of the homes in the neighborhood are unoccupied and there's no for sale signs anywhere. All of the homes in this whole subdivision, it appears, would be rentals. [0:47:53, 0:47:54]: This is [0:47:55, 0:48:00]: Outrageous in every single way. No one on this council. [0:48:01, 0:48:17]: Would have put an apartment complex out there on Stagecoach Road next to Pine Grove Subdivision. None of us would have voted for that. I know every person on this council and all of us voted for a single family residential community. [0:48:18, 0:48:20]: I ask all the citizens out there to understand. [0:48:21, 0:48:25]: If you woke up tomorrow and every one of your neighbors was a renter. [0:48:26, 0:48:29]: That's what if anybody bought into this neighborhood. [0:48:30, 0:48:38]: Which some people did buy their homes at the at the initial front of this neighborhood. If you bought a home at the front of the neighborhood, maybe the first 10. [0:48:38, 0:48:42]: And the rest of the homes are now rentals. [0:48:43, 0:49:03]: How would you feel about your decision? You would feel deceived moving into that neighborhood, thinking that you were gonna be moving into a neighborhood. So basically, what they did was they put a single-family, detached apartment complex out on Stagecoach Road to usurp the rules. [0:49:03, 0:49:09]: which which this council would have never approved any rental subdivision out there. [0:49:09, 0:49:17]: And we want to do something about it and send this clear message and to wake up all of the uh because if it's happened here. [0:49:18, 0:49:26]: It could happen all around Henry County and all around Georgia or anywhere. And people need to wake up. I never even dreamed. [0:49:27, 0:49:36]: That any investor would buy out an entire new construction subdivision when most of the homes were still being. [0:49:36, 0:49:36]: Uh [0:49:37, 0:49:37]: Market it. [0:49:38, 0:49:43]: They bought all the homes and they're gonna rent them all out if we don't stop them. Thank you. [0:49:44, 0:49:46]: Um, Councilwoman Gantt, go ahead, please. [0:49:47, 0:49:48]: Thank you. [0:49:48, 0:49:49]: Um [0:49:49, 0:49:53]: I concur with um Mayor Pro Tem. I think that [0:49:54, 0:49:56]: Um, you know, it was a slap in the face. [0:49:57, 0:50:00]: Uh, they came to us on several occasions. [0:50:00, 0:50:10]: I do know for a fact and I hope that Henry County is alert. Um the state of Georgia is alert. There are neighborhoods all over that are being bought up. [0:50:10, 0:50:25]: for rental property homes only because there are moratoriums on apartment complexes. That's happening. It's not a what if is happening. It's actually happening. And so we do have to put some measurements in place. Um I know this is a temporary [0:50:26, 0:50:42]: fix on that. I just don't want I want to make sure that we are clear that that does not affect our residential homes from being built with subdivisions. We've got to find a you know we don't want to give a bad message out there to our builders, our developers. [0:50:43, 0:50:46]: But this is going on and it was wrong. [0:50:46, 0:50:48]: And for that builder, they're wrong. [0:50:49, 0:50:59]: And so I have a problem with that. I have a a big problem with the way that would affect our community in general for an entire neighborhood to be rented out. [0:50:59, 0:51:06]: Um and w it wasn't disclosed. And so we really need to sit down and see what we can do about that. [0:51:08, 0:51:10]: Councilwoman uh Councilman Thomas, I'm sorry. Go ahead, please. [0:51:11, 0:51:12]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:51:12, 0:51:18]: Um I I think we need to address this in our developing uh UDC. [0:51:18, 0:51:22]: So Mr. Williams and Mr. Knight and [0:51:22, 0:51:23]: Uh [0:51:23, 0:51:27]: Could you add some light to how we can address this in the um [0:51:28, 0:51:31]: And our unified development code that we're working on presently. [0:51:34, 0:51:40]: Yes, uh Council Councilman Thomas, I think that um that is a mechanism by which we can address this issue and other issues. [0:51:40, 0:51:54]: uh that council, some of which the council has attempted to address before with respect to small box retail, those types of things. And I just mentioned that the a UDC is a mechanism by which you can address some of these development issues and development standards. [0:51:54, 0:51:57]: Obviously we're going through that process now and we'll be engaging [0:51:57, 0:52:06]: uh the public very, very soon. In fact, we have a tentative date with uh the consultant working on that project, which we'll publicize here. I need to obviously communicate that to [0:52:07, 0:52:25]: uh the council as well and the on the uh opportunity for the public to be uh able to provide input into the unified development code process as we go through it. But that is a mechanism of course that will deal with development standards, deal with um uh zoning code issues, obviously deal with signage, but also deal with [0:52:26, 0:52:29]: The types of development um that you envision. [0:52:30, 0:52:34]: For the city in terms of the actual development standards. [0:52:34, 0:52:39]: And I think we need to look very, very carefully at as this UDC is crafted. [0:52:39, 0:52:48]: Of what measures need to be in place to ensure that development occurs in the manner and in the vision that the council would like to see. [0:52:50, 0:52:50]: Thank you. [0:52:52, 0:52:53]: Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [0:52:59, 0:53:02]: Mr. Williams, or maybe Mr. Knighton, you can answer this too. [0:53:03, 0:53:07]: So this development was approved as a single family detached homes. [0:53:08, 0:53:10]: Um I'm still kind of [0:53:10, 0:53:12]: baffled as to [0:53:13, 0:53:14]: How? [0:53:14, 0:53:15]: This developer [0:53:16, 0:53:17]: was able to circumvent. [0:53:18, 0:53:18]: Um [0:53:19, 0:53:20]: The agreement. [0:53:21, 0:53:21]: Um [0:53:22, 0:53:23]: With the city. [0:53:23, 0:53:27]: What we approved was single family detached homes. [0:53:28, 0:53:28]: To be so [0:53:30, 0:53:30]: Owners. Right. [0:53:31, 0:53:40]: Right. And I'll I'll let Mike uh weigh in on this too. With when when the zoning approval was done and typically in many cases when the zoning approvals are done [0:53:40, 0:53:45]: and approved, they're approved on development standards itself. For instance, just as you mentioned, [0:53:46, 0:53:47]: single family homes. [0:53:48, 0:53:51]: Вчар бин бил, вчар фамилий хомс. [0:53:52, 0:53:55]: Issue is that there was not a mechanism in place. [0:53:56, 0:54:00]: Um, seemingly to deal with whether it was owner occupied. [0:54:00, 0:54:03]: versus rental renter occupied. [0:54:03, 0:54:06]: And now what we're seeing now is this this [0:54:06, 0:54:07]: This proposed [0:54:08, 0:54:21]: renter occupied situation versus owner occupied situation. And I think that's what part of this moratorium is to address or to hold still until we address it in a more formal manner through some type of regulatory mechanism. [0:54:22, 0:54:26]: Um one another follow-up question. So um [0:54:26, 0:54:32]: This well, whoever this builder is, he still has to come to the city for [0:54:32, 0:54:34]: Um his permits. [0:54:34, 0:54:36]: Or building, correct? [0:54:37, 0:54:38]: Or will he not? [0:54:38, 0:54:40]: You well yeah, for [0:54:40, 0:54:40]: You know [0:54:41, 0:54:41]: So [0:54:42, 0:54:56]: Any future progress in the development, they would require, you know, we would require additional permitting for, you know, every step in the process. And this moratorium puts a halt to that until we can get a handle on this. [0:54:56, 0:54:57]: Okay. [0:54:57, 0:54:58]: Thank you. [0:55:00, 0:55:05]: I would ask uh councilman Blount, everybody spoke but you, sir. You have anything you need to add or questions or uh concerns you may have. [0:55:06, 0:55:12]: I think everybody's kinda hitting on it, you know, we're all hitting on the same gears, uh, with this situation. [0:55:13, 0:55:17]: Uh I would I would concur that it is something that we was kind of blindsided with. [0:55:18, 0:55:19]: Uh when you when you [0:55:20, 0:55:37]: don't think that you have to have specifics in a development agreement that's coming in as as as uh when you're building new homes, specifics like sp homes for sale versus home for for rent. Then the assumption that was in the contract was they were going to be for sale. [0:55:37, 0:55:40]: But uh I think that that's where we was um [0:55:40, 0:55:45]: kind of caught off guard that we didn't have those specific mechanism uh mechanism in the uh [0:55:46, 0:55:57]: in the agreement for uh showing uh prior to uh approving. And I think that that's where this council and this city itself uh found ourselves being um [0:55:58, 0:56:00]: Um, Duke, if you will. [0:56:01, 0:56:02]: Right. [0:56:02, 0:56:07]: Is there a motion uh to accept uh or to approve this moratorium? [0:56:07, 0:56:10]: Uh may I have can I ask you. [0:56:11, 0:56:17]: How much development as far as that they want to develop, what stage are they at and how much more development is needed though? [0:56:19, 0:56:20]: Does anyone know that? [0:56:20, 0:56:28]: Uh I sorry, excuse me. I could answer that. I went over there today. They still have maybe about thirty to thirty-five lots that they've not even touched. [0:56:28, 0:56:31]: And then the houses that they finished they got about [0:56:31, 0:56:35]: Maybe twenty five or thirty houses standing that nobody's living in. [0:56:36, 0:56:36]: So [0:56:36, 0:56:41]: But there's a lot left to be done. So I would hope that we withhold withhold [0:56:42, 0:56:47]: uh what what we what what we could about sub um uh letting them have any more new [0:56:48, 0:56:50]: building permits are actually allowing them to build. [0:56:51, 0:56:54]: Without some type of uh resolution to this. [0:56:54, 0:57:00]: Well then my question is uh for the overall development, how many homes was it total to any does anyone know that? [0:57:01, 0:57:03]: We thought it was about seventy five. [0:57:04, 0:57:05]: That's what I thought. [0:57:05, 0:57:10]: But so they're basically uh I think it was about seven right about round halfway finished. [0:57:11, 0:57:13]: But the amount of homes if it's seventy five is [0:57:14, 0:57:19]: Um and I'm yeah, I'm trying to do that from memory. So I yeah, I think it was about seventy five. [0:57:19, 0:57:39]: Yeah, and then they changed the sign in the neighborhood uh uh some time ago, I guess, to say that they were doing all rentals. So many of those homes had not even been started when they started, when they put changed the sign to 1600. I'm just uh outdone by a new subdivision having a sign that says sixteen hundred rental. [0:57:39, 0:57:43]: a new home that ain't even been built yet for sixteen hundred dollars. [0:57:45, 0:57:47]: All right. Uh Councilwoman Gann, go ahead, please. [0:57:48, 0:57:50]: Thank you. Um, before we vote on this and [0:57:50, 0:57:53]: And again, Mayor Pretenta uh Alexander. [0:57:54, 0:57:57]: That's a new trend that's going on. [0:57:57, 0:57:58]: I know that for a fact. [0:57:59, 0:58:02]: There have been, I know, at least four subdivisions like that. [0:58:02, 0:58:05]: And not in Stockbridge. [0:58:05, 0:58:13]: But throughout Georgia. And so it's something that we need to go ahead and put a stop to, whichever way we can do it. And my question to [0:58:13, 0:58:14]: Attorney Williams is [0:58:15, 0:58:17]: Based off of this resolution that you have here. [0:58:18, 0:58:26]: Will that prevent other home builders, other developers from being able to come and get permits to build that are being [0:58:26, 0:58:30]: w that are acting in good faith because clearly this developer [0:58:30, 0:58:31]: did not act in good faith. [0:58:32, 0:58:42]: Oh the the moratorium applies citywide and and it refers to buildings intended for residential rental purposes. [0:58:43, 0:58:44]: So [0:58:44, 0:59:04]: Um, you know, that it's it's a a bit of an interpretation if if a builder in a different part of the city comes in for a permit to finish their house or or whatever, um, you know, we we would have to uh they would have to make an affirmative statement that this is intended for sale to owner for. [0:59:04, 0:59:08]: or owner occupation and then we could process that. [0:59:11, 0:59:11]: Okay. [0:59:12, 0:59:14]: Mira Pro Tem Alexander. [0:59:14, 0:59:21]: Yes, sir. I want to go ahead and uh make a motion to move forward uh with this uh moratorium as recommended. [0:59:22, 0:59:24]: To uh cease this issue in the city. [0:59:24, 0:59:24]: Fantastic. [0:59:25, 0:59:26]: Ms. Gan second then. [0:59:27, 0:59:28]: All favor, please indicate. [0:59:30, 0:59:32]: Okay, unanimous decision. Fantastic. Thank you. [0:59:33, 0:59:34]: Mayor, if you will. [0:59:34, 0:59:35]: Yes, sir. [0:59:35, 0:59:38]: Mr. Williams, if you uh this [0:59:38, 0:59:50]: So we will have to have specific language now that we didn't have with this developer, with with developers going forward. They will have to specifically say. [0:59:50, 1:00:08]: for for sale ownership occupancy or something in that reference. Is that what you're saying? So f yeah, for any other um developer coming in with seeking permits, uh they we would have to prepare essentially an affidavit that they would submit along with their [1:00:09, 1:00:13]: application saying this is being built for owner occupation. [1:00:14, 1:00:14]: Yeah. [1:00:16, 1:00:18]: For all new residential, new residential. [1:00:19, 1:00:20]: Yeah. [1:00:21, 1:00:22]: Ms. Barber, please. Go ahead. [1:00:25, 1:00:26]: Really quick. [1:00:26, 1:00:32]: Mr. Williams, can you tell me or can you explain fee simple? [1:00:33, 1:00:36]: Or fee simple absolute. I'm not in real estate, but [1:00:36, 1:00:37]: That was a term. [1:00:38, 1:00:39]: that I know [1:00:39, 1:00:40]: Um [1:00:40, 1:00:45]: we may need to include that sort of language or remove that kind of language. [1:00:46, 1:01:06]: Oh, I mean that that's just kind of an old school legal term which we still use in real estate, basically saying you own everything, that if the the the property simply you own the whole thing. Um whereas you know if if you rent then you you you have a property interest but it's only a rental interest. [1:01:06, 1:01:21]: interests um uh the estate for years or a useful product, but it you don't own it fee simple. That that's that's the distinction. Um having said that, the landlord always has a fee simple ownership interest. [1:01:21, 1:01:28]: Um so long as they own the property. Um, but if it's owner occup but but they're that's where you split the [1:01:28, 1:01:31]: ownership between the the landlord and the tenant. [1:01:32, 1:01:32]: Um [1:01:33, 1:01:37]: But when it's owner occupied, it's just one fee fee simple owner. [1:01:38, 1:01:39]: Yes. Thank you. [1:01:41, 1:01:47]: All right. So we've already um made a motion, second the motion, and uh we did vote on that. Is that correct? [1:01:48, 1:01:49]: Okay. You now just [1:01:50, 1:01:51]: Go right here, sir. [1:01:51, 1:01:52]: May I I I um [1:01:53, 1:01:57]: I just want to make sure we're protecting that we're protecting the [1:01:58, 1:01:59]: The homeowners were [1:02:00, 1:02:11]: uh that versus looking out for developers. Don't want developers to get into this mode and to say the stock bridge. But homeowners, single homeowners, [1:02:12, 1:02:17]: I wanna just wanna make sure we're not saying that if you've been in your house for 20 years. [1:02:17, 1:02:29]: Because most subdivisions, uh HOAs and this and that, um don't allow so many percentage of renting rental properties in the subdivisions. So I just want to make sure we we're not [1:02:30, 1:02:31]: Telling a homeowner. [1:02:32, 1:02:35]: That if you decide to redo your house. [1:02:35, 1:02:36]: And rent it out. [1:02:37, 1:02:41]: that you're not protect that that this doesn't protect their right to do that. [1:02:42, 1:02:45]: That's what I'm trying to make sure that we're we're we're looking at this at [1:02:46, 1:02:49]: toward developers and development com developers coming in and [1:02:49, 1:02:53]: and and and and saturating versus a single home owner. [1:02:54, 1:02:57]: I just want to make sure they're protected with what we're getting ready to do. [1:02:59, 1:03:07]: Okay. I well go ahead. Go ahead, Mr. Knight. I was gonna defer to Mike, but I assuming this of de this refers only to new home construction. [1:03:08, 1:03:13]: The the moratorium would apply to any new developments going forward. [1:03:14, 1:03:19]: But the ultimate resolution that we bring back as part of the UDC. [1:03:19, 1:03:21]: could apply [1:03:21, 1:03:25]: uh to existing developments as well, but that's to be determined. [1:03:26, 1:03:28]: The reason for that is. [1:03:28, 1:03:32]: You know, it's it's hard to make a distinction between [1:03:32, 1:03:38]: You know, a home that's existing that a homeowner say they, you know, they take a job in another state they want to rent that. [1:03:39, 1:03:39]: Um [1:03:39, 1:03:40]: I can't [1:03:41, 1:03:45]: It's hard to make a distinguish between that individual owner and then a [1:03:45, 1:03:48]: uh another owner, whether they're a corporate entity or not. [1:03:49, 1:03:53]: doing the same thing. It it's y at the end of the day it's still a lease of a [1:03:53, 1:04:09]: residential structure. And so that's what we're gonna have to work through when when we're preparing uh language to address this problem going forward is how we make those distinctions and and what's a fair basis uh upon doing that. [1:04:10, 1:04:14]: Well, I I would like to see that uh prior to submitting it for me. [1:04:14, 1:04:17]: Because I I don't want um [1:04:17, 1:04:22]: You know, people buy homes and then if they find a new home, single, you know. [1:04:22, 1:04:30]: That can become an investment property for them singly. I understand when we want to stop the development. I just don't want us crossing over to. [1:04:31, 1:04:35]: something else that it that really shouldn't be the intent of what we're doing. [1:04:35, 1:04:41]: So I would like to see that before we go forward because I I I'm not I'm not voting to stop. [1:04:42, 1:04:45]: someone that's been living in their home on a single property. [1:04:45, 1:04:51]: and decide that that they want their home because they're moving to a new home to be an investment property versus selling it. [1:04:51, 1:04:53]: I don't want that to be our cause. [1:04:55, 1:05:01]: Yes, sir. Mayor Potem, go ahead, please. Yeah. Uh well let's be very clear. This does not [1:05:01, 1:05:05]: Mr. Blount, what you just said, what we just passed does not affect that. [1:05:05, 1:05:11]: It only refers to new home construction. If we decide to do something as you mentioned. [1:05:11, 1:05:13]: Uh with the ULDC. [1:05:13, 1:05:16]: Then that's still to come, but what we passed tonight. [1:05:17, 1:05:18]: До зна [1:05:18, 1:05:22]: Inhibit homeowners from doing that, from renting their properties. [1:05:24, 1:05:27]: All right. On that note, I think we're done with that particular subject right now. [1:05:27, 1:05:33]: My particular comments. This uh with deep heart and and uh and condolences to two outstanding [1:05:33, 1:05:53]: pastors in our community that have uh left us and that's uh pastor spencer t o' neill of global impact christian ministries and also uh pastor uh philip coombs of the the bridge first christian church so may prayers and the good lord and uh be continue to be with the immediate families [1:05:53, 1:06:13]: As well as the church families. And I know recently we spent some time in for the celebration life for Pastor Spence. And so continued strength for that church as well as they go through um re-redivining some things that they have to do here. So also condolences and prayers out to him. [1:06:13, 1:06:15]: Cameron Hank Aaron. [1:06:15, 1:06:16]: An icon. [1:06:16, 1:06:18]: Uh obviously uh [1:06:18, 1:06:38]: besides having a very successful baseball career and being a home run king per se, I mean he was also very active in the community dealing with civil rights and equal rights and philanthropy in a sense here in the Atlanta metro area. So um I think he's been a great great great man. So um I'm I'm glad [1:06:38, 1:06:48]: Glad everybody's at least given him his his honors as now as well. And they really think it was a class, class act, gentlemen. Really appreciate the fact that uh he was well respected. [1:06:50, 1:07:10]: Well, folks, the pandemic is still here. It hasn't gone anywhere. We got to uh got to defeat this. And one of the ways we can defeat this is to make sure that uh if you have any symptoms of of the coronavirus or if you think you need to get checked out for testing, do so. You can call the public health department at 800-800-200-800-800 [1:07:10, 1:07:28]: 847-4262. Once again, 800-847-4262. And for the for Wednesday and Thursday of this uh week, uh there's still going to be the Henry County along with the public health department is still having a mobile. [1:07:28, 1:07:31]: a testing site. So Wednesday, which would be tomorrow. [1:07:32, 1:07:39]: That'd be the North Carmel, uh Mount North Mount Carmel Park, 307 North Mount Carmel Road. It's in Hampton. [1:07:39, 1:07:45]: And um that that actually is from uh 10 a.m. to three p.m. And this Friday. [1:07:46, 1:07:53]: We'll be at the uh Warren Holder Park at 301 Club Drive in Locus Grove. Once again, it's 10 a.m. to three p.m. to get tested. [1:07:54, 1:07:58]: Now what's probably what's most likely gonna happen that these mobile test sites were gonna cease. [1:07:59, 1:08:04]: And then where you want to get tested, you'll have to make an appointment and make it and go to the [1:08:04, 1:08:06]: here to senior center [1:08:06, 1:08:10]: Uh which is at uh ten fifty Florence McGardy Boulevard in McDonough. [1:08:11, 1:08:16]: And uh that is Monday to Thursday and nine a.m. to three PM. [1:08:16, 1:08:18]: In Saturday, nine AM to twelve noon. [1:08:19, 1:08:21]: And part of the process why this reduction [1:08:21, 1:08:29]: And testing is the emphasis is going to go to the vaccination, the staffing for vaccination is aspect. And right now, [1:08:29, 1:08:35]: The vaccinations in Henry County with the public health department and along with our county uh headquarters. [1:08:35, 1:08:38]: For last several weeks has been at the Atlanta Motor Speedway. [1:08:39, 1:08:43]: And you have to make a reservation there to to get your vaccination as aspect as well. [1:08:44, 1:08:48]: So Tuesday, February second and Tuesday, February ninth. [1:08:48, 1:08:49]: From nine to noon. [1:08:50, 1:08:59]: Individuals will be authorized once you make a reservation. Now you have to have a reservation and receive the first shot. So this would be a second shot. So folks that have already had a first shot. [1:08:59, 1:09:19]: And next Tuesday, February 2nd and February 9th, the Motor Atlanta Motor Speedway, you'll be able to go back. You should have a registration card already, an appointment to get your second shot. Mind you, the pharmacies at places like Publix and Ingalls and Walgreens, you can check with them as well to potentially get your vaccination. [1:09:19, 1:09:39]: Uh if you can't get into the public health department and and get in a rotation for that. There are other uh agencies that uh will be giving out the vaccination shot as well. So you have to call them and uh do that. Once again, if you're a health care we're in phase one A still, so you have to be a health care partner, long term care for [1:09:39, 1:09:58]: facility, EMS, the first responder, policemen, fire department, individual at 65 years or older and your health and your health care providers or individuals that take care of you. And of course those those 65 older individuals with higher risk categories. [1:09:59, 1:10:18]: Okay. And so if you happen to take the Moderma um vaccination, uh you have to be 18 years older. Obviously it's two shots and they're you're supposed to take the there are 28 days between each shot. So after you take your first one, they'll set you up for appointment for your second one. The Pfizer shot. [1:10:18, 1:10:22]: Is uh you had to be sixteen years older for that particular shot. [1:10:22, 1:10:23]: Two shots as well. [1:10:24, 1:10:32]: And uh they're 21 days apart. So once you take your first shot, your second shot will be 21 days later and they'll give you an appointment for that until you come back once that happens. So [1:10:33, 1:10:33]: Um [1:10:34, 1:10:52]: So we'll continue to go through this process. And obviously there's some logistics issues and staffing issues when it comes to this, but you got to keep the faith and keep trying to get the shot so we can be so you can beat the spread. So when you're out in the public domain, make sure you stay six feet away, continue to wear your mask, wash your hands and use hand sanitizer. [1:10:53, 1:10:58]: if you're uh if you're not able to uh wash hands right away and um [1:10:59, 1:11:13]: And stay away from big crowds, big, big, big gatherings per se in this aspect, but you got to keep the faith. And I'm hoping that as we go through this process, we talked about an amphitheater earlier. So when we have a grand opening for an amphitheater, I'd like to have it for everybody to come out and join us. [1:11:13, 1:11:33]: But we have to make sure we got a handle on this and on this uh pandemic and people get tested. And we're we have to herd immunity, as they call it. 80, 90 percent, I think it is, something along those lines, and getting people vaccinated. And what I understand, uh, there are several other companies that are producing uh the vaccine, vaccine that for this, so they haven't. [1:11:33, 1:11:41]: been approved by the FDA yet, just yet, but that's coming out. On that note, I will read some additional announcements. [1:11:42, 1:12:02]: Uh of course city offices are closed due to COVID-19 precautions currently. City Council meeting, the next one is 6 p.m. via Zoom, the second Monday of each month. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting is 9 a.m. uh second Friday of each month. The downtown Development Authority meeting is uh 6 p.m. by way of Zoom. [1:12:02, 1:12:04]: Zoom uh the third Tuesday of each month. [1:12:06, 1:12:13]: U Council advisory meeting at 6:30 via Zoom, and that would be uh third Tuesday of each month. [1:12:14, 1:12:18]: The youth council meeting is six thirty on the third Wednesday of each month. [1:12:18, 1:12:38]: Also by way of Zoom, of course, planning commission meeting 6 30 at uh four Thursday of each month. And our next council work session, of course, is the last Tuesday of each month in this aspect. And uh council initiatives, uh Councilman Afonso Thomas will have its 11th annual African-American heritage celebration taking place. [1:12:38, 1:12:58]: Virtually on February 6th. Of course, and uh contact uh Mrs. Znobia Peterson at 404-565-5109. Once again, 404-565-5109 for additional information. And I'm pretty sure there'll be information on a website and a social media aspect on how you can check in. [1:12:58, 1:12:59]: Yeah. [1:12:59, 1:13:06]: virtually and and be able to participate and observe and be a part of the annual African American Heritage Celebration. [1:13:06, 1:13:10]: On that note, uh do we have any executive session issues that we need to discuss? [1:13:12, 1:13:17]: Are we going to zagular session? Okay. Yeah, Ms. M Mareputan. Yes, sir. [1:13:19, 1:13:21]: Mayor Tam, you you got your hand raised? [1:13:22, 1:13:26]: I'm so sorry about that. I make a motion that we don't have an executive session tonight. [1:13:27, 1:13:30]: All right. All right. Uh one set w Mr. Knighton, sir. [1:13:31, 1:13:38]: Oh, I'm sorry. Let me, I'm sorry. I I I wanted to present Mr. Peterson's new economic development manager, please. I'm sorry. [1:13:38, 1:13:40]: Yeah. I'm finished. [1:13:40, 1:13:42]: Finish that portion of business, I'm sorry. [1:13:43, 1:13:47]: Uh we can come back to that. Go ahead, Miss Knight. Well he he's it we'll we'll come back to that. Go ahead, sir. [1:13:49, 1:13:56]: I just wanted to to for the viewing audience in particular to mention Alan Peterson since he's joining us tonight. I believe this is the first meeting he's been able to join us. [1:13:56, 1:14:00]: Um and he started in the first of January on January fourth. [1:14:00, 1:14:03]: He comes to dus comes to us um [1:14:04, 1:14:23]: uh with um a good solid resume and we look forward to uh everything that he'll bring as an asset to the city of stockbridge. He has been he's hit the ground running I I can tell you. Um he had a list of a three-page list for me that we spent about two and a half hours going over. Obviously met with other members of the staff. [1:14:23, 1:14:31]: um and save been able to attend I believe a DDA meeting as well uh thus far. Um but we look forward to um everything that he [1:14:32, 1:14:35]: Will bring to us in terms of knowledge, understanding. [1:14:35, 1:14:40]: And vision uh for the city of Stockbridge, and just wanted to acknowledge his presence. [1:14:40, 1:14:47]: And uh if he would be allowed to just say hello to everyone. Absolutely, Mr. Peterson, Florida. [1:14:47, 1:14:47]: The director. [1:14:49, 1:14:54]: Uh good evening everyone. I'm happy to be here. I wanna let all of you know that I certainly look [1:14:54, 1:15:10]: forward to working with you all so that we can advance the city of Stockbridge as far as economic development is concerned. I I look forward to meeting with each and every one of you. I won't have a three page meeting agenda like I did with Mr. Knighton, but I certainly look forward to meeting with you all. [1:15:11, 1:15:17]: Good deal. Appreciate it. Okay. Back to Mayor Pro Tem. You made a motion, sir, to uh not go to the second session. Is that right? [1:15:18, 1:15:18]: That's correct. [1:15:19, 1:15:20]: Is there a second? [1:15:22, 1:15:23]: Ms. Ms. Mayor. [1:15:24, 1:15:26]: I don't have a second, I have a comment. [1:15:27, 1:15:27]: Go ahead. [1:15:28, 1:15:45]: Okay. Um for over a month now we have an HR independent third party study. And I feel that it's been negligent and being done on purpose that we are not attending executive sessions. I want that on the record, just like I said it, Miss Holliday. [1:15:46, 1:15:56]: I feel that we are being negligent and irresponsible and that we are not providing a good example or the respect of our staff. [1:15:57, 1:16:06]: administrative and staff by not discussing this report and not going into executive session to avoid the report. [1:16:08, 1:16:14]: That's all I have to say. And I think that is important that we go ahead and get that out of the way regardless of the results. [1:16:15, 1:16:17]: Okay. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:16:20, 1:16:25]: Well, certainly um it is not my intent to avoid discussing any [1:16:26, 1:16:27]: Survey um [1:16:28, 1:16:31]: Our retreat is coming up in a few weeks. [1:16:32, 1:16:35]: Um so I assume that we would discuss that as we [1:16:35, 1:16:47]: have other issues we need to discuss as well, such as the purchasing policy. So many other issues. That is another item that we need to add to the retreat agenda. [1:16:48, 1:16:54]: Um so no, it is not my intent of uh skirting my duties or responsibilities at all. [1:16:54, 1:16:55]: That's all. [1:16:56, 1:17:02]: Okay, stand by. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. Thank you. Mayor, we did some things last meeting that were [1:17:03, 1:17:07]: N I mean, we have some urgent things in that report that everyone has read. [1:17:08, 1:17:17]: And it is urgent that we discuss those things and at least out of respect of mayor and council, based off of the emails that we've had already, we were willing to discuss them. [1:17:18, 1:17:30]: Um, Councilwoman Barber, you had mentioned on the email yourself that you were willing to discuss it with all the council members at the executive session. And so we have already had, it's been over a month. [1:17:30, 1:17:39]: and a half of this going back and forth. We have other issues that we need to discuss, including um legal matters and different things. [1:17:40, 1:17:50]: that I think that is imperative that we discuss in the executive session. And for some reason we are avoiding it. And I say to this point that so be it. [1:17:51, 1:17:56]: We will be negligent and not be lied and will be liable for anything and any other circumstance. [1:17:56, 1:17:58]: Uh stand by. Mr. Blount, please. [1:17:58, 1:18:03]: I just want to say when it comes to the HR um survey that was done. [1:18:04, 1:18:07]: One of the things about having a uh retreat. [1:18:08, 1:18:27]: Uh it's that all staff members and and and the elected bodies are all on one page and we discuss uh at that retreat. This HR survey is not for all staff. It was given to the elected body to discuss and get an update on that behind closed doors because it becomes a personnel matter. [1:18:28, 1:18:35]: Uh so it was it was designed to go into executive session, not at a retreat. Let me go ahead and put that out front. [1:18:35, 1:18:40]: Uh second, I I think that we do have some uh litigation updates that we need. [1:18:41, 1:18:44]: That we need to be informed on. We have to also remember that, you know. [1:18:45, 1:18:48]: Um this uh the majority of this council has [1:18:48, 1:19:06]: um um voted to not continue with our city attorney. And right now today would be a good time to ask whatever questions, because I don't know what the future will hold with this. A good question and question our city attorney on some issues when it comes to litigation that needs to be discussed. [1:19:06, 1:19:07]: Um [1:19:07, 1:19:11]: And so I I think that executive session is warranted and needed. [1:19:11, 1:19:18]: So let's not hide the find hide in the facade that it this thing with the HR is is for the retreat because it's not for the retreat. [1:19:19, 1:19:22]: is an is it's it's it's pertaining to employees. [1:19:23, 1:19:32]: Uh, and this should be done in the executive session by because if you do it at the retreat, it would only have to be us anyway. So why wait to retreat when we can do it now? [1:19:33, 1:19:38]: Uh so that's I d I think we need an executive session. We have some litigation to discuss. [1:19:38, 1:19:40]: Uh mayor in that litigation. [1:19:41, 1:19:44]: Uh, portion of that litigation has to do with uh [1:19:44, 1:19:45]: The elected body. [1:19:46, 1:19:55]: uh without going into uh any other discussions that we need an update because I'm I don't want to hear this and that. I wanna know what's the update pertaining to that. [1:19:56, 1:19:57]: Mm. [1:19:57, 1:20:01]: pertaining to elected body and when I would uh and and I'm trying uh [1:20:02, 1:20:07]: Not to go there with it, but but when we talk about going to executive session pertaining elected body. [1:20:08, 1:20:10]: Ви кантха ділекта бади. [1:20:11, 1:20:14]: that it's pertaining to voting not to go into executive session. [1:20:15, 1:20:17]: All right. Ms. Barber, you had your hand up. [1:20:20, 1:20:34]: Yes, thank you. I wanted to respond to Councilwoman Gantt. Yes, my initial response to the email when I said that I wanted to discuss the survey with the full council. [1:20:34, 1:20:38]: Your response was we were all going to hear. [1:20:38, 1:20:41]: from the individual who conducted the survey. [1:20:41, 1:20:42]: Individually. [1:20:43, 1:20:49]: So you heard from her individually. Councilman Blount heard from her individually. [1:20:50, 1:20:58]: So did Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. So did I and Councilman Thomas. We all heard from her individually. [1:20:58, 1:21:00]: So I'm not sure at this point. [1:21:00, 1:21:01]: What more? [1:21:02, 1:21:08]: Do we need to discuss that is urgent right now that can't wait until the retreat? [1:21:08, 1:21:09]: At the retreat. [1:21:10, 1:21:14]: We can have time alone with just a council. [1:21:14, 1:21:23]: We don't have to necessarily have staff involved in. I don't see it being an urgent matter that needs to be discussed. [1:21:23, 1:21:25]: Tonight, as a matter of fact. [1:21:25, 1:21:29]: I think it was two meetings ago, I wanted to go into executive session. [1:21:30, 1:21:30]: You voted no. [1:21:31, 1:21:33]: So now it's urgent. [1:21:33, 1:21:35]: I don't want to play these games. [1:21:36, 1:21:38]: I don't want to play these kinds of games. [1:21:39, 1:21:39]: Mm. [1:21:40, 1:21:48]: I always think I voted no to anything. Stand by, stand by Mr. Mr. Night. Mr. Night, sir. [1:21:48, 1:22:03]: Uh have we uh suggest suggested a date just yet or have a date for our retreat that we do now? Stand by folks. I need to ask a question. You'll get your turn. It's nice. We do not have a definitive date um for the retreat. [1:22:03, 1:22:09]: It would likely be the first or middle of March. We had the last one in September. Six months later would be about [1:22:09, 1:22:14]: that time. And so that's what I would propose in terms of a potential dates for [1:22:14, 1:22:17]: The retreat. Obviously we have to check with the council schedule, you all. [1:22:18, 1:22:21]: Um, to determine definitively, but that is the time frame that I'm looking at. [1:22:22, 1:22:23]: Okay, Mirapal Tim Alexander. [1:22:24, 1:22:28]: Yes, sir. Thank you so much. But let let's be quite clear here, okay? [1:22:28, 1:22:32]: Each and every member of this council [1:22:32, 1:22:37]: can talk to the city manager and city attorney any time they want to. [1:22:38, 1:22:40]: If you have recommendations that you want to make [1:22:41, 1:22:46]: You could you could open that door to open his door, the city manager's door is open. [1:22:47, 1:22:49]: The city attorney's doors open. [1:22:49, 1:22:53]: All of those individual conversations can be had any time. [1:22:54, 1:22:56]: D after this meeting? [1:22:56, 1:23:04]: Tomorrow morning, the day after that, anything that you want on your mind. I have been communicating with the city manager. [1:23:04, 1:23:09]: about my thoughts behind it behind the survey and many things. [1:23:10, 1:23:13]: And each and every one of you can do the same thing. [1:23:14, 1:23:15]: We don't have to agree. [1:23:16, 1:23:33]: on everything, on on the rec recommendations or anything. All we have to do is pick up the phone, call the city manager, city attorney, or any official that you want to talk to. I've been through many a retreat and this is the refrain that I've heard over and over again. [1:23:34, 1:23:54]: Save it for the retreat where we could have an ex yes, you can have executive sessions at retreats. This is a comprehensive report. This report is hundreds of pages, okay, that needs to be reviewed. It can't be reviewed in such a short period of time. And the review that we will be able to conduct at the [1:23:53, 1:24:09]: retreat we get a sufficient amount of time to uh uh to analyze and to get as much input about the validity of the report or about any particular topic that we want. Why would we rush to have a discussion [1:24:10, 1:24:30]: Uh in uh for in an executive session that will go way into the night when we don't have time to review all of these documents with the appropriate officials. The retreat is the appropriate time to do that, where we get all of the information, everybody will be able to chime in, review the report. [1:24:29, 1:24:31]: You have any questions about it until [1:24:32, 1:24:48]: the time uh that the uh retreat comes up, the city manager can answer that. So can the attorney or whomever you want to talk to. Let's not make any mistake of of understanding that we gotta go in executive session to talk about anything. We don't. [1:24:49, 1:24:51]: We can talk about anything we want. [1:24:52, 1:25:06]: privately with the city manager anytime on the phone or on uh with the city attorney. It's not necessary to discuss it amongst all of us. We all can read and we all can interpret. I might have a different interpretation. [1:25:07, 1:25:12]: I made some of my recommendations already and you all can do the same thing if you like. [1:25:14, 1:25:33]: I would I would say that there are things that we would have to discuss, no whether the personnel litigation type issues, property acquisition type issues that would have to discuss in a second session. That's what it's designed for. But I would eventually think that we would have to do that. And I want to stop for a minute and be quiet. Councilman Thomas, you have yet to speak. So you have something you need to add? [1:25:33, 1:25:36]: Well, what what I want to say was [1:25:36, 1:25:39]: I attempted to call a special call meeting. [1:25:40, 1:25:43]: Surely the strictly for executive session. [1:25:44, 1:25:45]: Well we would have had [1:25:46, 1:25:47]: The time [1:25:48, 1:25:52]: to discuss and mayor and I don't know why you wanted a unanimous decision. [1:25:53, 1:25:57]: I don't I don't think it was proper, you know. I don't you never asked for that. [1:25:57, 1:25:59]: in any other um [1:25:59, 1:26:00]: Executive sessions. [1:26:01, 1:26:06]: And you may want to speak to that, but uh my intentions. [1:26:06, 1:26:09]: Even though we was talking about the condemnation issue. [1:26:10, 1:26:14]: Uh, but still that session could have lent loaned herself to [1:26:14, 1:26:16]: uh other discussion. [1:26:16, 1:26:19]: So I'm just saying I I attempted to do that and [1:26:19, 1:26:22]: We didn't get the response from everyone. So I don't know. [1:26:24, 1:26:28]: I mean, you know, every day it's just something different. So I I just don't know how to [1:26:28, 1:26:32]: You know, you you you try to do you you hear what other council members are saying. [1:26:33, 1:26:35]: Then when you try to accommodate that [1:26:36, 1:26:38]: And then that doesn't work, so [1:26:38, 1:26:42]: I'm just baffled on, you know, how do we go forward to [1:26:42, 1:26:50]: make sure that what we're doing, you know, all council members have an opportunity to, you know, have input. So I'm just a little baffled. [1:26:51, 1:27:11]: Well to answer your question, the reason why I want a unanimous decision is so we can all be together, all five of us, along with with the city manager and and attorney for those issues, so we can all discuss this uh in a second session privately and share each other's thoughts and ideas on this idea, and everybody at least try to get on the same sheet of p uh music, piece of paper or whatever, for the things that we have to deal with. [1:27:11, 1:27:13]: I mean the decisions that we have to make. [1:27:13, 1:27:18]: uh that to take us all to be involved in that and I and I I prefer [1:27:18, 1:27:30]: I prefer that we're all together doing that and and that way we all have the same information at the same time and can make some type have dialogue and make some type of decision and move forward. On that note, I'll be quiet. Ms. Gantt, you're next. [1:27:31, 1:27:41]: Thank you, Mayor. Um uh Councilwoman Barber, in reference to stating that we want that we all want an individual, that's not true. I have an email here dated. [1:27:41, 1:27:44]: for um, I believe January fourth. [1:27:45, 1:27:47]: Where it was briefly stated. [1:27:47, 1:27:49]: And uh there was a response back. [1:27:49, 1:27:50]: In regards to [1:27:51, 1:27:51]: Um [1:27:52, 1:28:00]: Councilman Alexander at the time stating that he wanted to hear the whole thing alone. That was on his email, not mine. [1:28:01, 1:28:21]: But however, we agreed, however, we agreed that at that point in time, so it wasn't me stating that we all were to meet and discuss individually. Even when we met and discussed individually, we've had the opportunity to go over this interview session, go over the session with the HR independent independent. [1:28:21, 1:28:22]: Person. [1:28:23, 1:28:27]: who has spoken to, from my understanding, I guess now, each and every single one of us. [1:28:28, 1:28:41]: So my issue is one, I'm not trying to avoid um, you know, uh uh Councilman Thomas a special call meeting in that regard. This particular report seemed to be [1:28:41, 1:28:46]: just completely overlooked. And after reading the report [1:28:47, 1:29:04]: We've had several occasions and several opportunities to address it and we didn't. Not one time on here did it say, let's wait for a retreat. I think it's just the lack, I think it's irresponsible of us to do that. And I and you know, we can go on today. [1:29:08, 1:29:10]: Seems like she's frozen there. [1:29:10, 1:29:20]: 'cause it's a real estate personnel or litigation issue. If you want, I can spill the beans right. I can talk about it right here. If that's what you prefer to do, because that's not illegal. [1:29:21, 1:29:34]: So we're either going what I'm saying to you is is that we have we have had these opportunities over and over again to discuss these issues and we have chosen not to do so. [1:29:34, 1:29:40]: So we are avoiding. We are avoiding the topic of personnel matters. And I think that that is important. [1:29:41, 1:29:52]: Other than that, you know, so be it. If we're going to, we still need information on litigation. Yes, we can talk to Mr. Knighton and Attorney Williams one-on-one. [1:29:53, 1:30:02]: But it's better to talk about those issues and discuss them as a whole because some i something I might have a question about or wasn't thinking about. [1:30:03, 1:30:15]: So one of you may have, Councilwoman Barber, you might have a question on something totally different that I didn't think of. So us being in that room discussing certain matters and issues and making decisions, that's important. [1:30:16, 1:30:25]: That's all I have to say about that, Mayor. Councilman Blount, go ahead. Thank you. Blount, please. Yeah, I just want to say that you know, I when when my name is thrown in the mix. [1:30:25, 1:30:30]: Uh I didn't have an individual meeting with uh the HR surveyor. [1:30:30, 1:30:37]: Uh Councilwoman uh Gantt and Mayor Ford, we all had the meeting because we didn't call an executive session for everyone to hear the meeting. [1:30:38, 1:30:41]: Uh we could have elected to call an executive session for everyone to hear. [1:30:42, 1:30:47]: But uh when Mr. Alexander said that he won the individual meeting, that still left [1:30:47, 1:30:53]: Two other council members that could have been heard it in executive session. So I just want to get that clear. But it here's the bottom line. [1:30:54, 1:31:14]: You know, we're sitting here and I'm not going to go into all these little back and forth uh with grown people here. And as you saw tonight, that we move whatever need to be moved forward got moved forward tonight. Um so that because I didn't have time for a special call meeting, but we see that nothing came out by our city manager that something [1:31:14, 1:31:15]: was pressing. [1:31:15, 1:31:20]: Was anything pressing that couldn't have waited till tonight to approve or to do tonight? [1:31:20, 1:31:26]: No, it wasn't because everything tonight was handled and then the special call meeting would not have changed that. [1:31:27, 1:31:33]: Everything that needed to be handled tonight was handled. And is there something else that needed to be discussed? Then then discuss it in executive session. [1:31:33, 1:31:35]: So that I wasn't I wasn't [1:31:36, 1:31:56]: I wasn't for a special call meeting. First of all, I didn't have the time. And there was nothing sent to us that it was a pressing issue to have one. When that special call meeting was set up, it was set up with specifics. Specifics mean that when we go back there and discuss in executive session what was to be discussed, three council members can get up and walk. [1:31:56, 1:32:00]: out because they don't want to hear anything else. I didn't have time to play those kind of games. [1:32:01, 1:32:06]: Just like right now, three council members can say, Hey, let's not have an executive session, even though. [1:32:07, 1:32:10]: It's been stated that we need to have an executive session. [1:32:10, 1:32:17]: So the games that are being played here are foolish. And who's going to take the bad end of the stick is the citizens of Stockbridge. [1:32:19, 1:32:23]: Mirror Tim, Alexander, go ahead now. Let's just say this right now. Okay. [1:32:23, 1:32:28]: The council members can have an executive session if they choose, or they could choose not to. [1:32:28, 1:32:33]: The first thing I did today was to call the city manager and have a conversation with him. [1:32:33, 1:32:37]: about were there any pressing issues that need that had to be discussed tonight. [1:32:38, 1:32:39]: Peace it. [1:32:39, 1:32:48]: Nope, we didn't have any pressing issues that had to be discussed in executive session, but he always defenses to the council if we wanted to do so. [1:32:48, 1:32:53]: I don't think that we do need to do so. And I think Councilman Thomas hit it right on the head. [1:32:54, 1:33:14]: He tried, as I said, he always brings something to the table. Last week, he said, you know what? Why don't we call a special call meeting? So the meeting will only be about executive session issues. I voted for that. I did because [1:33:14, 1:33:33]: I don't want to be here all night talking about a subject that I don't several subjects that I don't have time to look and invest the time necessary to solve or to delve into that information. But if we had voted for that executive session, which I did and he did. [1:33:33, 1:33:44]: And Councilwoman Barber did, we would be having that meeting. We would have had that meeting with a sufficient enough time, with nothing else going on but that. [1:33:44, 1:33:48]: But again, I referred to the city manager who said. [1:33:48, 1:33:52]: If we so choose, we could have individual updates. [1:33:52, 1:33:58]: If we w we like to do that. There was nothing so pressing that we had to have an executive session tonight. [1:33:58, 1:34:18]: But again, he's always going to defer to us if that's what we so choose. But I commend Councilman Thomas for taking the lead and saying, okay, if this is what you want to do, let us have this meeting specifically just for that. Now, the next occasion to do that is the retreat. [1:34:18, 1:34:18]: Three. [1:34:19, 1:34:21]: I got the information that I needed. [1:34:21, 1:34:41]: And I'm acting upon it in the way in the manner that I think fitting. So I'm okay with what with what needs to be done. And I'm okay with the fact that I raised my hand and I consented to have a special call meeting last week to discuss any topic. Does anybody wanted to discuss? [1:34:41, 1:34:43]: Yeah. [1:34:43, 1:34:53]: And I couldn't get that done. I and I've heard you, Merrick, you say this all the time. To get anything in StockBridge done, it takes three votes. [1:34:54, 1:34:56]: I've seen your position move. [1:34:57, 1:35:16]: Where it now it certainly takes a unanimous decision to do something where we've had three to two votes many a time in order to do that. I don't like that marker because the city charter does not set anything at unanimous in order to have a meeting. It says it at three council members and the mayor. [1:35:16, 1:35:32]: Cause so with the three council members that signed up, Mayor, you could have presided over that meeting. Yeah, I know that. Let me ask me a let me ask you a question. Uh what it amounts to, I said earlier in the conversation, I was looking for unanimous decisions so we could all be together and talk about [1:35:33, 1:35:53]: multiple issues. The special call meeting was only for one topic only. There's several different things we need to talk about. And and waiting, if we didn't if we don't get the executive session until or we have the retreat in in in the March, there's plenty of things, whether it deals illegal or let or or or property issues that we need to decide on. And we need to decide that collectively as a group. [1:35:53, 1:36:05]: I prefer I said that before, I prefer to have everybody together. So we all hear the same thing or have other questions and we bounce things off one another and make a decision, move the foot forward. That's my point. I said that earlier. And I've actually said it in my emails as well. [1:36:06, 1:36:15]: now in that aspect. So but uh uh anyway, I'm gonna stop right there. Then I'm gonna go to Miss Barber. Okay, folks, we now now we are gonna get long on this. We keep going. Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [1:36:15, 1:36:17]: No, I wanted to um [1:36:17, 1:36:23]: um address the email that Councilwoman Gantt is referring to. [1:36:23, 1:36:27]: When the consultant sent the email to the entire council [1:36:27, 1:36:32]: She had Council Mayor Pro Tem Alexander's email address incorrect. [1:36:33, 1:36:36]: All I did was reforward it to the entire mayor and council. [1:36:36, 1:36:38]: When I did that, the consultant [1:36:39, 1:36:45]: sent me a individual email and asked me when was I available to meet with her to go over this survey. [1:36:46, 1:36:50]: I responded back to her and I included the entire mayor council. [1:36:51, 1:36:52]: My response was [1:36:53, 1:36:55]: My schedule is flexible. [1:36:56, 1:36:58]: I would like to review this with the full council. [1:36:59, 1:37:02]: Councilwoman Gent responded. [1:37:02, 1:37:05]: back to the entire council to my email. [1:37:05, 1:37:15]: Speaking for Mayor Pro Tem Alexander, in which she said he wanted to hear from the consultant directly on his own. [1:37:16, 1:37:22]: So when I initially said that I wanted to um hear the survey with the entire council. [1:37:23, 1:37:25]: She had already responded back that [1:37:25, 1:37:38]: He was hearing from her on his own. I assume that she and Councilman Blount, which he also responded and said he had already heard from her, he had already reviewed it with her. [1:37:39, 1:37:40]: So I [1:37:40, 1:37:41]: Took it upon myself. [1:37:42, 1:37:44]: to coordinate with Councilman Thomas. [1:37:45, 1:37:47]: for us to do a conference call with her. [1:37:48, 1:37:50]: I've reviewed the survey on my own. [1:37:51, 1:37:53]: I have some concerns about it. [1:37:53, 1:38:00]: Some concerns about it. Um, and it's not necessarily um concerns that would [1:38:00, 1:38:01]: Um [1:38:04, 1:38:07]: Align with what is said in the survey. [1:38:08, 1:38:13]: It is not. Um, I have some concerns about the survey and how it was conducted. [1:38:14, 1:38:19]: So no, I'm not avoiding having any conversations. Two meetings ago. [1:38:19, 1:38:30]: I wanted to have executive session. I mean everybody else voted against it. I thought that would be a good opportunity for us to talk about it. We did not. So why not discuss this? [1:38:30, 1:38:31]: situation. [1:38:31, 1:38:34]: А та ретрит, верво тайм. [1:38:34, 1:38:42]: That we can do our own dis investigations, have our conversations with Mr. Knighton individually. [1:38:43, 1:38:45]: and we'll be done with it. [1:38:46, 1:38:51]: I don't understand why there is such a pressing need to do it tonight. [1:38:52, 1:39:02]: And this is a blown up litigation matter that we need to take urgent um pay urgent attention to it right now. That is what I don't understand. [1:39:04, 1:39:04]: Exactly. [1:39:05, 1:39:09]: We've we've had a lot of comments, folks. And I and I I'm we probably just need to end this. [1:39:09, 1:39:17]: Well Mayor, I I need uh because I was mayor, I had my hand up, Mayor. Okay, ho stand. Ms. Mr. Blount, stand by. [1:39:17, 1:39:19]: Go ahead, Councilman Thomas, please. Go ahead. [1:39:19, 1:39:25]: I I I I my comment, I I really want to end this and I think this is where you're trying to go too. [1:39:25, 1:39:27]: And and I just want to say that um [1:39:28, 1:39:30]: You know, I've been on the council for a while. [1:39:30, 1:39:33]: And and you know, it's been a lot of [1:39:34, 1:39:34]: Um [1:39:35, 1:39:37]: You know, this type of discussion. [1:39:38, 1:39:41]: And I just want to say to all of us, um [1:39:42, 1:39:44]: There are no winners. [1:39:44, 1:39:48]: When we have these kind of discussions like we're having tonight. [1:39:49, 1:39:52]: You know, it it appears that everybody wanna [1:39:52, 1:39:56]: try to get that point in and they think that they'll win because [1:39:56, 1:39:59]: You know, they make a point here, they make a point there. [1:40:00, 1:40:03]: There are no winners here tonight. There are no winners. [1:40:03, 1:40:05]: We're all losers. [1:40:05, 1:40:09]: We got to figure out a better way to have these kind of discussions. [1:40:09, 1:40:13]: And I agree that they should happen in executive session. [1:40:13, 1:40:14]: Good up. [1:40:14, 1:40:16]: What I'm just saying tonight, this [1:40:16, 1:40:17]: This year [1:40:18, 1:40:23]: has to stop. I don't have an issue with anyone having a different of opinion than mine. [1:40:24, 1:40:26]: Um, I've learned [1:40:26, 1:40:28]: How to [1:40:28, 1:40:29]: Respect. [1:40:30, 1:40:33]: Other opinions, whether I agree or not. [1:40:34, 1:40:37]: But I'm not gonna sit here and try to [1:40:38, 1:40:39]: Dog out. [1:40:40, 1:40:43]: Talk bad about any process of any one. [1:40:43, 1:40:45]: In a forum like this. [1:40:46, 1:40:47]: Uh this just has to stop. [1:40:48, 1:40:53]: There are no winners here tonight, uh, men, ladies. There are no winners here. [1:40:54, 1:40:57]: So we got to learn how to to do this in a better way. [1:40:58, 1:41:00]: Yes, you know. [1:41:00, 1:41:05]: I can agree if the survey needed to be discussed. I'm not denying denying that. [1:41:05, 1:41:10]: Any pending litigation need to be discussed. I'm not denying that. [1:41:11, 1:41:13]: But what I am saying is this. [1:41:14, 1:41:16]: kind of back and forth. [1:41:16, 1:41:19]: And everyone trying to make that point, trying to get a point in and [1:41:19, 1:41:22]: And think that, you know, somebody's winning. [1:41:23, 1:41:24]: We're all on the losing team. [1:41:25, 1:41:26]: With this tonight. [1:41:27, 1:41:30]: So I recommend that we just stop this. [1:41:30, 1:41:34]: Let's put something back out for for another kind of meeting. It could be at the retreat. [1:41:34, 1:41:36]: It could be a call meeting or whatever. [1:41:37, 1:41:38]: But this [1:41:39, 1:41:41]: has to stop because [1:41:41, 1:41:43]: There are no winners. [1:41:43, 1:41:46]: No one is is gaining any points with this. [1:41:47, 1:41:50]: And we just c continue to go back and forth. So Mayor if you would [1:41:51, 1:41:54]: Let's just let this be the last comment and let's close this out. [1:41:54, 1:41:55]: And if so anybody [1:41:56, 1:41:58]: Anyone it takes [1:41:58, 1:42:05]: Three council members and the mayor, it takes four council members to convene an executive session or any special call meeting. [1:42:06, 1:42:08]: That's the way we need to do it. [1:42:08, 1:42:13]: This this here, I I'm getting ready to sign off in a few minutes myself because [1:42:13, 1:42:16]: Uh I I don't like being on the winning team. [1:42:16, 1:42:23]: And this is a winning team, right? This is a losing team. I don't like being on a losing team. This is a losing team when we do this. [1:42:23, 1:42:26]: We're all a losers here tonight with this. [1:42:26, 1:42:28]: We had a great meeting. [1:42:28, 1:42:32]: We ran the agenda. Someone alluded to the fact that we moved things forward. [1:42:33, 1:42:34]: That was winning. [1:42:34, 1:42:36]: But this right here, this is losing. [1:42:36, 1:42:39]: No one is winning here tonight. No one. [1:42:40, 1:42:41]: So mere [1:42:41, 1:42:42]: Let's let's end this. [1:42:43, 1:42:45]: And let's try to figure out how. [1:42:45, 1:42:54]: We can resolve our differences rather than being here. And everyone here knows that citizen has said this about us before. [1:42:55, 1:42:58]: Іно ви ж не то ста, ви ні то лисин. [1:42:58, 1:43:02]: to the citizen others. The city manager have said this before. [1:43:03, 1:43:05]: That's why you don't see me. [1:43:05, 1:43:11]: bashing anyone. I mean if someone come at me it's my nature to re retaliate back. [1:43:11, 1:43:13]: But I try not to. [1:43:14, 1:43:16]: So I'm uh that's not me. [1:43:16, 1:43:21]: I'm not trying to get any kind of points with anyone in in a statement that I make. [1:43:22, 1:43:28]: We need to stop this and figure out a better way to resolve our issues. [1:43:29, 1:43:38]: Appreciate it. Now, simultaneously, when your hand was up, uh Councilman Blount's hand was up. So we'll make Councilman Blount the last one, and then we'll t we'll go on and make continue on the meeting. [1:43:38, 1:43:40]: Okay. Let me just make this statement. [1:43:41, 1:43:46]: We can go back and forth with what was in emails. And when we're talking about we're losers here, that's not true. [1:43:46, 1:43:54]: I've said on many occasions, every elected official here, including you, Mayor, was elected by the citizens of Stockbridge. [1:43:54, 1:44:00]: And the respect to one another saying if any council member saying, hey, I would like to go to an executive session. [1:44:00, 1:44:01]: Then that's respect. [1:44:02, 1:44:03]: That's respect. [1:44:03, 1:44:16]: Because if you either want to go or don't want to go, and I'm glad to see Councilman Tom uh uh mayor uh count councilman Thomas sign off because that's what you have a uh uh that's what you have is a leave button on the Zoom call. [1:44:16, 1:44:24]: Because the truth is, at the end of any discussion, whether we like the discussion or not, you you have discussions to get to the truth. [1:44:25, 1:44:30]: You either gonna discuss it out here or you go behind closed doors to get the truth. [1:44:31, 1:44:42]: And when we talk about a city manager, I'm gonna let you know, when we talk about a city manager that has the right to do certain moves with the city and he comes to council, yes, we can say, I agree with you. [1:44:43, 1:44:45]: We can have a consensus. I agree with you. [1:44:45, 1:45:04]: But when you have a council where everyone here on this call is elected officials or elected to serve the citizens of Stockbridge, yet things are being done off a consensus, which was an argument arguing point at one time that we're doing consensus to move the city forward on emails. [1:45:04, 1:45:10]: That's the exact same thing that's going on right now. We want to talk about respect to one another. That's respect to one another. [1:45:11, 1:45:17]: When you when when the citizens take right now and look at the call, how they talk to each other and everybody jumping off. [1:45:17, 1:45:18]: Is that respect? [1:45:19, 1:45:25]: Is that respect? So I hopefully, hopefully in this election year, the citizens see. [1:45:25, 1:45:33]: Who's on this call that gonna respect one another and move the city forward rather than be with this consensus that has jumped off the phone. [1:45:33, 1:45:36]: Mayor, I know there's an absence of a quorum. [1:45:37, 1:45:40]: I so that means what? The m meeting automatically ends, I suppose. [1:45:41, 1:45:42]: Sure. [1:45:42, 1:45:47]: All right. All right. So be it. Good night, folks. See you soon. God bless you.
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[0:14:41, 0:14:43]: Thanks for having our [0:14:44, 0:14:45]: Got it. [0:14:46, 0:14:50]: Participants. So this is the panelist. We should have a panelist link. [0:14:53, 0:14:56]: Um let me add hold on, let me put you on speaker. [0:14:59, 0:15:02]: I'm gonna add your do you want me to use a different account? [0:15:04, 0:15:09]: No, it should go to B holiday at City of Did you hit say? [0:15:10, 0:15:18]: Um well maybe let me let me try that. Maybe I didn't save. I'll have to hit resend and then save. [0:15:21, 0:15:24]: So it it says edit panelist success, but that's [0:15:30, 0:15:36]: And let me check the email. V holiday at city of Stockbridge A.gov. [0:15:37, 0:15:38]: Yes. Okay. [0:15:41, 0:15:44]: Some equals joining. Let me take Sailor R. [0:15:44, 0:15:47]: Hold on, let me switch my screens. [0:15:48, 0:15:49]: Mm-hmm. [0:15:51, 0:15:56]: Okay, if it doesn't come through I'll just I'll just have to go in as a it didn't it come through. [0:15:57, 0:15:58]: Hi Sarah Equa. [0:15:58, 0:16:00]: Hey, how are you? Doing well. [0:16:00, 0:16:04]: We're trying to get the others joined, so give us a few minutes, we'll get started. [0:16:05, 0:16:05]: Um [0:16:07, 0:16:15]: Yeah, if you uh another way, Vanessa, if you come in as an attendee, and if I can if I know it's you, I can I think I can pull you in as a panelist that way. [0:16:15, 0:16:19]: Right. Okay. So let me do that. We go get them all going that way. [0:16:19, 0:16:20]: Okay. [0:16:21, 0:16:22]: Okay. Thanks, Roger. [0:16:23, 0:16:23]: Okay. [0:16:33, 0:16:34]: Okay, great. [0:16:37, 0:16:40]: How is my audio? Can you hear me well? [0:16:40, 0:16:44]: Yes. Oh great. Yeah, I can hear you fine too, see you clearly. [0:17:00, 0:17:05]: I think I mentioned to you that we're gonna do like uh introductions once we get the meeting kicked off. [0:17:06, 0:17:09]: So I'll ask you to tell us a little bit about yourself and [0:17:10, 0:17:12]: What your connection to Stockbridge is and uh [0:17:13, 0:17:16]: Why you serve on the why you've chosen to serve on the DEA. [0:17:16, 0:17:17]: Okay. [0:17:17, 0:17:19]: Maybe be thinking about that. Okay. [0:17:23, 0:17:27]: Is everybody gonna do that or you just sing, let me out? [0:17:27, 0:17:33]: No, every we're gonna go around the table because I we're relatively new. I think m um [0:17:34, 0:17:40]: Most everybody's been there less than a year and a few just a couple of months. When just a couple of months ago. Uh so [0:17:42, 0:17:46]: Let's see, I don't see her coming in as an attendee yet. [0:17:47, 0:17:53]: Vanessa Holliday is our city clerk and she's gonna be serving as uh recording secretary for our meetings. [0:17:53, 0:17:56]: Sorry. I'm trouble getting it on this one. [0:17:56, 0:17:59]: Well, make sure she can get in so she can take help take our minutes. [0:17:59, 0:18:00]: Okay. [0:18:52, 0:18:53]: There she is. All right. [0:18:54, 0:18:55]: Oh [0:18:55, 0:18:56]: Hey Vanessa. [0:18:56, 0:18:58]: Hey, how are you? [0:18:58, 0:18:59]: Hi Smeekle, how are you? [0:19:01, 0:19:02]: Okay. [0:19:04, 0:19:05]: Awesome. [0:19:22, 0:19:23]: Okay. [0:19:27, 0:19:27]: Excuse me. [0:19:30, 0:19:31]: Yeah. [0:19:37, 0:19:52]: Uh Vanessa, we made a minor change to the agenda. We'll we'll probably need to vote on it, but there was an error in the actually at the top of the attendees list. I still had Renee's name in there and stuff, but I fixed that. I'm gonna forward you that copy now. I I think I left you off. [0:19:53, 0:19:55]: When I sent it earlier to the group. [0:20:00, 0:20:01]: should be on its way to your email. [0:20:48, 0:20:49]: Yep. [0:21:31, 0:21:33]: [1293.6, 1293.9]: [0:22:21, 0:22:30]: Okay, just resent the meeting invites to see if uh they can join now. I I heard Barber was gonna be a bit late, but uh the others [0:22:30, 0:22:32]: I just got a response from Bob but [0:22:33, 0:22:34]: See if we uh [0:22:34, 0:22:36]: We'll need a quorum to start the meeting. [0:22:37, 0:22:39]: The attorney's not going to be joining us tonight, by the way. [0:22:41, 0:22:42]: And um [0:22:43, 0:22:46]: Sameek, we're not we're not yet in um [0:22:46, 0:22:48]: Published view. [0:22:49, 0:22:50]: For the meeting. [0:22:50, 0:22:57]: So once we have everyone together, then I'll open up I'll broadcast the meeting to make it open to the public. [0:23:26, 0:23:27]: Mm-hmm. [0:23:33, 0:23:35]: Hello. Hi Barber. [0:23:36, 0:23:37]: Made it. [0:23:38, 0:23:38]: Yeah. [0:23:39, 0:23:43]: I'm still waiting for others to join, so give us a moment. Let's see if this is one of the board members. [0:24:17, 0:24:17]: Uh oh. [0:24:21, 0:24:22]: Yeah, very [0:25:00, 0:25:00]: Yeah. [0:25:13, 0:25:14]: Hi Alan, how are you doing? [0:25:15, 0:25:23]: I'm Will. How are you doing today? Doing well, thanks. We're uh waiting for a few others to join so we can start the meeting. So if you'll just stand by. [0:25:25, 0:25:25]: So there. [0:25:26, 0:25:29]: Hello, how are you doing today? I'm doing well. How are you? [0:25:29, 0:25:31]: I'm well. Good. [0:25:44, 0:25:45]: [1600.8, 1601.3]: Okay. [0:27:00, 0:27:05]: meaner after he's been talked out of using his parking power for his family for [0:27:07, 0:27:08]: All right, how are you? [0:27:09, 0:27:11]: Great, how about yourself? Good evening, everyone. Well, thank you. [0:27:15, 0:27:16]: Good evening. [0:27:35, 0:27:36]: Yeah. [0:27:45, 0:27:52]: Everybody, um I'm helping um some one of the other board members join, so just stand by. We're about ready to get started. [0:28:32, 0:28:33]: I okay. [0:30:31, 0:30:45]: All right, Bob is uh gonna be joining us shortly and Mr. Sears is joining as well. And uh but I think we have enough here to get started with a quorum. So in the interest of everyone's time, Bob [0:30:46, 0:30:47]: Bob is hopping on. [0:30:48, 0:30:58]: See what else we have. See if I have anything else? And and Councilman Gantt, I've not heard from her either, but uh we'll go ahead and get started. So um let me um [0:30:59, 0:31:07]: Let me first uh thank you everybody for joining. And um I will m start the official webinar to make the public portion. [0:31:07, 0:31:13]: uh open. Uh Mr. Sears. Yeah. Welcome to the good evening, everybody. All right, very good. [0:31:14, 0:31:20]: No worries. And Art, I didn't get a chance to see you uh say hello before, but uh welcome. Thanks for joining the meeting. [0:31:22, 0:31:24]: Bob, I see you there as well. Sorry for the [0:31:25, 0:31:28]: Great. Okay. I'm gonna go ahead and open up the meeting in Zoom. [0:31:28, 0:31:31]: So the meeting is now um live. [0:31:32, 0:31:43]: Uh welcome everybody to the January uh Downtown Development Authority meeting. Um I'd like to uh welcome everyone and um start off with a roll call. Um [0:31:44, 0:31:46]: Bob, I know you had some trouble getting on with do you uh [0:31:47, 0:31:51]: Are you able to uh call the roll for everyone? Uh I I'll I'll try. Uh Arthur Christian. [0:31:52, 0:31:52]: Present. [0:31:54, 0:31:55]: Uh Roger Custom. [0:31:57, 0:31:58]: Present. [0:31:58, 0:31:59]: Letisha Gantt. [0:32:01, 0:32:02]: Keysha Gantt? [0:32:04, 0:32:06]: I don't see her on the webinar. [0:32:06, 0:32:08]: Uh Samiqua King [0:32:09, 0:32:10]: Present. [0:32:11, 0:32:12]: Barber Richardson. [0:32:14, 0:32:15]: Barber Richardson. [0:32:17, 0:32:20]: Maxwell Sears. Present, sorry, I was on mute. [0:32:20, 0:32:25]: Okay. All right. Okay. Barber Richardson is present. Maxwell Sears is present. [0:32:25, 0:32:27]: And Bob Swaggard is present. [0:32:28, 0:32:30]: That's one, two, three, four, five, six. [0:32:30, 0:32:31]: Uh six presents. [0:32:32, 0:32:38]: Indeed. And so with uh at least four here, then we do have a uh quorum. So [0:32:38, 0:32:51]: Um, first I want to thank everybody for your service to the DDA. I'm really excited about um and honored to serve as chair for this organization. And I will do my best to um hold these meetings in an [0:32:52, 0:33:00]: Uh orderly, informative, and efficient manner. Um, but this is a volunteer organization, and uh I for one do not pretend to know. [0:33:01, 0:33:07]: everything so I welcome your feedback if you have a uh another opinion [0:33:07, 0:33:10]: Um, about how we run the business of the DDA. [0:33:11, 0:33:18]: By all means, please let me know and let's support each other so we can um help bring positive change to uh Stockbridge. [0:33:18, 0:33:25]: Um so with that in mind, um we have a new uh uh board member, Samiqua King. [0:33:25, 0:33:45]: And uh we also have a new uh economic development director for the city of Stockbridge. And they are both here with us tonight. And uh so in the interest of getting to know each other a little bit, I'd like to briefly go around um and ask each board member to introduce themselves, just tell us a little bit about yourself and your connection to Stockbridge. [0:33:45, 0:33:46]: And [0:33:46, 0:33:48]: I think most importantly [0:33:48, 0:33:50]: Why do you choose to serve? [0:33:50, 0:33:54]: Um so with that in mind, I'll um I'll start. [0:33:54, 0:33:59]: Um I have uh owned a home here in Stockbridge since uh two thousand [0:33:59, 0:34:09]: uh nine and I also am co-owner and managing partner of a business called Burn Beautiful in the historic district of Stockbridge on MLK Senior Heritage Trail. [0:34:10, 0:34:19]: Um, my day job, I work for the state and um as in information technology. Um, I've been with them for 14 years. [0:34:19, 0:34:23]: I serve primarily because I want to see my city thrive. [0:34:24, 0:34:29]: Um I uh sure I want foot traffic in our our store in uh downtown. [0:34:29, 0:34:44]: Um, but I also want a place to enjoy as a homeowner, a nice place to enjoy good restaurants, unique shopping, arts, recreation, and so forth. So with that in mind, I want to do what's possible to um make that possible in our city. [0:34:45, 0:34:50]: So um I'll go around the room and I'll start next with um Mr. Christian. [0:34:51, 0:34:53]: Would you tell us about it yourself, please? Uh [0:34:53, 0:34:55]: Sure, sure. [0:34:55, 0:35:00]: I've uh been in Georgia since nineteen eighty seven, came down here from college and made it home. [0:35:01, 0:35:03]: Live in Stockbridge. [0:35:03, 0:35:04]: Um [0:35:04, 0:35:05]: A wife, when we've got one daughter. [0:35:06, 0:35:06]: Uh [0:35:07, 0:35:07]: For [0:35:09, 0:35:10]: All about uh [0:35:11, 0:35:13]: Seventeen years now, I believe, maybe a little more. [0:35:14, 0:35:15]: And [0:35:16, 0:35:18]: Uh, my day job I work for Fulton County government. I run [0:35:19, 0:35:19]: Their [0:35:19, 0:35:23]: First time home buyers uh down payment assistance program. [0:35:23, 0:35:24]: Which I love to do. [0:35:24, 0:35:27]: And the reason I serve is to [0:35:28, 0:35:29]: Um help out. [0:35:29, 0:35:30]: Two [0:35:30, 0:35:33]: shape uh policy and direction [0:35:33, 0:35:34]: Of the board. [0:35:35, 0:35:39]: In terms of bringing great economic development to the downtown area. [0:35:39, 0:35:40]: to help. [0:35:40, 0:35:42]: um augment the [0:35:43, 0:35:44]: Uh uh [0:35:44, 0:35:45]: The policies of the [0:35:46, 0:35:54]: City Council to make sure that you know we have a thriving downtown where it's truly a live, work, play environment. And uh that's where I serve. [0:35:55, 0:35:55]: Great. [0:35:56, 0:36:01]: Thank you for that. And thank you for keeping it brief. And I'd ask the rest of you to uh do the same if you could. [0:36:01, 0:36:02]: Um [0:36:02, 0:36:06]: Let's see, uh Simequa King, tell us about your best self and welcome. [0:36:06, 0:36:17]: Thank you. Again, my name is Samikle King. I my day job, I work for Delta Airlines. I'm a project coordinator, been there almost 12 years. [0:36:17, 0:36:23]: I've been a homeowner, homeowner here in Stockbridge for [0:36:23, 0:36:43]: um going on seven years and what made me want to get involved is I took the um citizens academy class in 2019 and once I saw how receptive the city was for wanting volunteers um that kind of made me want to get involved and seeing what's better [0:36:43, 0:36:44]: Yes, for my city. [0:36:46, 0:36:51]: Thank you. I've heard good things about the Citizens Academy program. Yeah. Check that out myself. [0:36:52, 0:36:53]: Um Barber? [0:36:54, 0:37:05]: Yes. Hi, I'm Barber Richardson and I am um a homeowner and business owner in the Stockbridge City. Well, unincorporated Stockbridge, but I've lived in Stockbridge for 17 years and [0:37:05, 0:37:07]: My business I uh opened up. [0:37:08, 0:37:13]: Mm, twelve years ago, and it's located right there in the heart of downtown, not too far from you, Roger. [0:37:14, 0:37:19]: So what made me want to serve is I've like I said, I've been here seventeen years and in that time [0:37:20, 0:37:22]: I have not seen uh I guess the type of [0:37:23, 0:37:25]: growth I would have liked to. [0:37:25, 0:37:41]: uh experience as far as I echo art sentiment with live work play. And so I was like, well, instead of, you know, kind of sitting back and complaining about it, find a way to get involved to be a part of the action that will move it forward. So that's why I uh volunteered to serve. [0:37:42, 0:37:43]: That's great. [0:37:43, 0:37:46]: Thank you. Uh all right, Mr. Sears, we'll go to you next. [0:37:49, 0:37:52]: Hello, hello, good evening. My name is Max Bazoous. [0:37:53, 0:37:57]: And I have a business in the heart of Stockbridge called Kire Counseling Service. [0:37:58, 0:38:01]: Uh, breaking the stigma of mental health in our community. [0:38:01, 0:38:07]: Uh, what draw me to submit is the vision and some of the things that I've seen. [0:38:07, 0:38:08]: Uh I [0:38:09, 0:38:13]: And I feel proud in terms of not just a volunteer, like Miss King said. [0:38:13, 0:38:15]: But the ability to make change. [0:38:15, 0:38:17]: Асоковина пописав стрі. [0:38:17, 0:38:19]: And there's so much to be done. [0:38:20, 0:38:24]: And I hope that as a board we can at least collectively get some of those things done. [0:38:25, 0:38:29]: Uh I think Sarkwich uh you know has so much to offer because it's right in the heart. [0:38:29, 0:38:32]: McDonald and all the other places, but we're doing something different. [0:38:32, 0:38:35]: So that's why, you know, like as volunteer, I don't like to waste my time. [0:38:36, 0:38:38]: Uh, cause I can do a lot other things. [0:38:39, 0:38:41]: I had to take people off the schedule to do this still. [0:38:42, 0:38:45]: So I hope as a board we can use the time wisely. [0:38:45, 0:38:47]: To make some changes for Stockwish. [0:38:48, 0:38:53]: Very good, thank you. And uh Mr. Swiger, Bob will s we'll we'll [0:38:53, 0:38:54]: We'll go to you next. [0:38:56, 0:39:00]: А майнез Боб Свайр. А в lived і Stockbridge for twenty years. [0:39:01, 0:39:02]: Um retired [0:39:02, 0:39:04]: uh this past uh july [0:39:05, 0:39:08]: retired as a uh compliance officer at Sun Trust Investment. [0:39:09, 0:39:09]: Services. [0:39:10, 0:39:10]: Uh [0:39:10, 0:39:13]: I describe that as stockbroker police. [0:39:13, 0:39:16]: Um, probably the easiest way to describe what I did. [0:39:17, 0:39:17]: Um [0:39:18, 0:39:23]: And prior to that I had a number of different uh different uh jobs and uh careers and so forth. [0:39:23, 0:39:24]: Um [0:39:25, 0:39:25]: I [0:39:26, 0:39:28]: Like I said, I've lived in Stockbridge for twenty years. [0:39:28, 0:39:34]: Uh I I got really kind of involved in what was going on in Stockbridge uh a couple of years ago. [0:39:34, 0:39:39]: Uh working with the Art Christian and also with uh Stockford City Council Member. [0:39:39, 0:39:43]: uh Yolanda Barber during the uh the move to uh [0:39:44, 0:39:46]: split the city of Stockbridge in half and create a new city out of it. [0:39:47, 0:39:49]: And so that was kind of my first uh [0:39:50, 0:39:51]: venture into [0:39:52, 0:39:52]: Um [0:39:53, 0:39:54]: You know. [0:39:54, 0:39:57]: Stockbridge politics or Stockbridge government or whatever. [0:39:57, 0:40:01]: And uh I've tried to try to to to stay involved. [0:40:01, 0:40:04]: А I think Stockbridge has a lot of potential. [0:40:04, 0:40:07]: Uh, really truly do think it has. [0:40:07, 0:40:09]: That there's a lot of things that could be done. [0:40:09, 0:40:11]: Uh and I enjoy living here. [0:40:12, 0:40:13]: And uh just wanna [0:40:13, 0:40:16]: My my goal is to do what I can to help um [0:40:17, 0:40:21]: you know, uh bring the the some of the master plan, some of the plans [0:40:21, 0:40:24]: Um for downtown development to um [0:40:25, 0:40:25]: Fruition. [0:40:28, 0:40:45]: Thank thank you, Bob. And so that's the DDA board. I'd like to turn it over to Mr. Peterson. Alan, would you uh would you mind telling us a little bit about yourself and uh maybe your background as far as uh how you came to the city of Stockbridge? [0:40:48, 0:40:51]: Sure, sure. Um good evening everyone. I [0:40:52, 0:40:59]: Happy to be here. Um, I'm Alan Peterson. I'm new to the city of Stockbridge. I'm the new economic development director. I started uh two weeks ago. [0:41:00, 0:41:14]: Uh so still somewhat getting settled in. I've been in economic development for uh well over 10 years now, uh starting in Houston, Texas, and uh the surrounding areas around Houston. I um moved to moved back to Georgia and [0:41:15, 0:41:20]: in 2015 and I became the uh downtown development authority director. [0:41:20, 0:41:25]: uh for the city of Stone Mountain. So I'm very familiar with um the DDA and [0:41:26, 0:41:45]: and how the DDA works. I was the DDA director before I came here for Stockbridge, but uh my role here will just be um a liaison between the DDA and the city. And um it's it's it's my role to just uh make sure you all have everything that you need from us, the city. And I look forward to [0:41:45, 0:41:54]: uh learning about you all and and what you all's uh mission and and goals are and what you all plan to do so that we can all work to bet work together. [0:41:54, 0:41:57]: To advance the city as far as economic development is concerned. [0:41:57, 0:42:01]: And uh Roger and I spoke last week. We had a great conversation and um [0:42:01, 0:42:04]: I'm excited to to be here for this first meeting. [0:42:05, 0:42:10]: Awesome. Thank you. We're really uh really uh excited to have you and I think we're on a strong footing for the year. [0:42:11, 0:42:27]: I also neglected to mention uh Ms. Vanessa Holliday. She is the uh city clerk for the city of Stockbridge, and she has very graciously um offered to uh help with the recording secretary um for this meeting. Uh Vanessa, you wanna tell us a little bit about your background? [0:42:28, 0:42:33]: Um Vanessa Holliday. I am serving ca serving in the capacity of city clerk. [0:42:34, 0:42:37]: I have been with the city. I came on board in two thousand nine. [0:42:38, 0:42:39]: I had a short break. [0:42:40, 0:42:42]: Um for two years, returned to the city. [0:42:42, 0:42:44]: In two thousand and fourteen. [0:42:45, 0:42:47]: And have been in uh the role of city clerk since then. [0:42:48, 0:42:53]: I enjoy um working with the boards uh specifically. [0:42:53, 0:42:54]: I [0:42:54, 0:42:58]: And one of those who wants to see everything gel and see something. [0:42:59, 0:43:03]: uh mushroom from the ground up. So I am, you know, I look anything that you all need. [0:43:04, 0:43:20]: from the city, reach out to me. I am open to if I can't find it, I will try to find out who can assist you. But I am definitely an advocate for the boards of the city because I recognize that you all are volunteers. [0:43:20, 0:43:23]: And that you are taking your time. [0:43:23, 0:43:25]: Um to help the city. [0:43:25, 0:43:29]: So any way I can be of assistance to you, please just reach out to me. I'm happy to help. [0:43:30, 0:43:32]: Thank you. And I can [0:43:33, 0:43:50]: personally attest to that's a sincere offer and you've helped me out in many, many ways, Vanessa. So thank you for all the support you've given us and for being here with us tonight. So all right, we will move on to our agenda. So the uh first order of business is to approve today's meeting agenda. [0:43:50, 0:44:03]: Um the first thing I'll mention is that there was an error in the uh listing of the uh board members and and the titles. We have corrected that in the version that I sent out to the board. [0:44:03, 0:44:04]: uh earlier today [0:44:05, 0:44:11]: Are there um any other um edits needed to today's meeting? [0:44:12, 0:44:13]: agenda. [0:44:14, 0:44:16]: Assuming everybody's had a chance to look at it. [0:44:20, 0:44:29]: I am hearing none. Um there is one item I will ask that we hold for a later meeting, which is the legal review. [0:44:29, 0:44:35]: Um well we'll partially go over this. We'll leave it on the agenda, but uh our attorney McCray [0:44:35, 0:44:53]: is not going to be join cannot join us this evening, but we will touch on that topic uh a little bit. But if we need to get into uh more detail, we may have to uh push that out for uh another meeting. But um uh so I'll um I'll hear a motion uh I'd like to hear a motion for [0:44:53, 0:44:59]: Accept uh uh uh accepting today's uh agenda as sent out earlier today from my email. [0:45:01, 0:45:01]: Yeah. [0:45:03, 0:45:04]: Remember. [0:45:07, 0:45:11]: I move that we accept today's gender as uh as amended. [0:45:13, 0:45:13]: All right. [0:45:14, 0:45:15]: A second. [0:45:15, 0:45:20]: Thank you, Art. Um, all right, we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? [0:45:23, 0:45:36]: I'm not hearing any. So um I will ask Mr. Schweiger to call out the um do a roll call for the vote to accept today's uh meeting agenda as sent today. Okay. [0:45:36, 0:45:39]: Uh w would you please signify uh other [0:45:39, 0:45:41]: Yes or no, I guess. [0:45:41, 0:45:41]: Um [0:45:42, 0:45:44]: Uh Roger Custon. [0:45:44, 0:45:45]: Yes. [0:45:46, 0:45:48]: Uh Arthur Christian. [0:45:49, 0:45:49]: Yes. [0:45:51, 0:45:52]: Barber Richardson. [0:45:52, 0:45:53]: Yes. [0:45:53, 0:45:54]: Next we'll see her. [0:45:56, 0:45:57]: Actual Seers. [0:45:58, 0:45:58]: Yeah, mute. [0:46:00, 0:46:01]: Yes. [0:46:01, 0:46:02]: Thank you. [0:46:02, 0:46:04]: Uh Bob Swagert, yes. [0:46:05, 0:46:06]: Send me quaquine. [0:46:06, 0:46:06]: Yes. [0:46:07, 0:46:07]: Mm. [0:46:08, 0:46:08]: Um [0:46:09, 0:46:29]: Thank you. And that sounds like it's unanimous from those who are present. Thank you, Bob. Um, I'm also checking the attendees. I don't see Councilwoman Gantt as of yet, but I'll keep an eye on that. Uh we'll move on to the next item on the agenda, which is to approve the December 15th uh meeting minutes. That was also sent via email. I [0:46:29, 0:46:38]: I uh hope that you all have had a chance to review it. Um, Ms. King, I don't know if you got a copy of that, so you may wanna abstain from this because you really. [0:46:39, 0:46:40]: weren't part of that meeting. [0:46:41, 0:46:44]: Um so um any um [0:46:45, 0:46:50]: So I'll I'll hear a motion to accept the uh December fifteenth meeting minutes as sent via email about a week later. [0:46:52, 0:46:55]: I move I move that we accept December fifteenth. [0:46:55, 0:46:56]: Go ahead, Bob. [0:46:57, 0:46:58]: Uh I second. [0:46:58, 0:46:59]: Very good. [0:47:00, 0:47:03]: And let's call a roll to uh accept the meeting minutes. [0:47:03, 0:47:06]: Okay, uh Roger Christ Roger Custom. [0:47:07, 0:47:08]: I'll say yes. [0:47:08, 0:47:08]: Okay. [0:47:09, 0:47:10]: Uh Arthur Christian. [0:47:11, 0:47:12]: Yes. [0:47:13, 0:47:14]: Barber Richardson? [0:47:14, 0:47:14]: Yes. [0:47:15, 0:47:16]: Actual Seers. [0:47:16, 0:47:17]: Yes. [0:47:17, 0:47:19]: Up swagger, yes. [0:47:19, 0:47:20]: So Nicole King. [0:47:20, 0:47:21]: Blabstain. [0:47:22, 0:47:23]: You abstain, okay? [0:47:28, 0:47:29]: And [0:47:30, 0:47:37]: We called on everyone, right? So I think that's uh that's also unanimous. So okay, we can move on to uh the um [0:47:38, 0:47:46]: The next item on our agenda, we've done the introduction. So next item is the uh treasure update. Um Barber, we'll turn the floor over to you. [0:47:47, 0:47:50]: Okay, um I am meeting with [0:47:50, 0:47:52]: Former chair um [0:47:52, 0:47:58]: This Friday to get everything officially transferred over. So right now it's more of an informal report. [0:47:59, 0:48:12]: I do have bank balances for the last time, which is still consistent because we haven't had any um expenses. And our operating account right now, there's uh$97,404 and 61 cents. [0:48:13, 0:48:33]: In our facade grant account, there's$44,972.05. There is a note that I've received from the former treasurer that we need to transfer$50,000 of the operating funds over to the facade grant. But as I've stated, I will meet with her on Friday to get [0:48:33, 0:48:39]: get everything officially transferred over and I will be able to speak to that a little bit more. Um [0:48:40, 0:48:41]: During our next meeting. [0:48:43, 0:48:45]: Also, uh any questions about the bank? [0:48:45, 0:48:46]: Balances. [0:48:47, 0:48:48]: It's been okay. [0:48:48, 0:48:49]: Vanessa? [0:48:50, 0:48:57]: Did you say fifty one five one cents or sixty one six one cents? For the operating account, sixty-one cents. [0:48:59, 0:48:59]: Yeah. [0:49:00, 0:49:01]: Yeah. [0:49:01, 0:49:02]: Fix. [0:49:03, 0:49:05]: Sixty one. Six one. Okay. [0:49:05, 0:49:06]: Thank you. [0:49:06, 0:49:09]: No problem. I have a I have a quick question. [0:49:09, 0:49:09]: Yes. [0:49:10, 0:49:13]: And the facade grant, what is that? Uh I know I'cause I wasn't [0:49:13, 0:49:20]: I mean, I'm new at this again. Uh the facade gun. How's that used? That used to help business in Stockbridge or how's that how's that used? [0:49:21, 0:49:31]: Yes, I think Miss I think uh Mr. Christian's gonna speak to that a little later, but but yes, the facade grant is is basically a a grant that business owners in the downtown development area can apply for. [0:49:32, 0:49:37]: And uh currently as it stands right now, reimbursement is up to five thousand dollars. [0:49:37, 0:49:42]: So for example, if a business owner spent ten thousand to improve the facade. [0:49:42, 0:49:53]: the aesthetics of the outside of their business and it meets, you know, the facade grant criteria, then the city will DDA will reimburse the business up to$5,000. [0:49:54, 0:49:55]: Uh. [0:49:55, 0:49:56]: Much is gracious. [0:49:57, 0:49:58]: Yes, okay. [0:49:59, 0:50:09]: Um and so along with that, um as as the new treasurer, I would like to present propose to the board that uh basically I would like to um to make my job. [0:50:10, 0:50:27]: a lot more efficient to use an online accounting system uh to keep track of all of our income and expenses, to you know generate nice, beautiful reports and all the things. And right now it's a system that I use in my current practice as a CPA and it's uh called Zero X-E-R-O. [0:50:27, 0:50:28]: Um [0:50:29, 0:50:32]: So right now the cost of that is I think about thirty dollars a month. [0:50:32, 0:50:34]: Bill directly to the city. [0:50:34, 0:50:41]: Um, to the extent that we need more functionality, like if we want to take advantage of being able to do uh [0:50:41, 0:50:45]: expense claims because right now I believe that the the way the rules are written. [0:50:46, 0:50:47]: Із вині ту. [0:50:48, 0:50:51]: Uh, the treasurer and the chairman to approve invoices. [0:50:51, 0:50:59]: So um there is the ability to upgrade to a package that's about sixty dollars a month that would allow you to have that feature electronically. [0:50:59, 0:51:05]: Um I don't know that we need to do that initially because we don't really have that many invoices coming through. [0:51:06, 0:51:12]: Um that will, in my opinion, substantiate the additional cost. But at the minimum, we do need this, I think. [0:51:13, 0:51:21]: uh the system would be very helpful um for accountability, transparency, efficiency in terms of maintaining the financial records of the DDA. [0:51:25, 0:51:32]: So I'm taking that as a motion to um allocate some of our um funds to [0:51:33, 0:51:36]: To purchase the uh zero accounting software. [0:51:36, 0:51:48]: Yes. And this ongoing monthly subscription. So you can cancel any time with a one month uh basically with a one month notice. But I guess if that needs to be put to the floor as a motion to vote on, then yeah. [0:51:48, 0:51:49]: Then um [0:51:49, 0:51:51]: That's that's what I would like. [0:51:51, 0:51:52]: All right. [0:51:52, 0:52:02]: So um I Barber and I have talked about this a little bit. So I l let me um I I'll go ahead and second the motion, but I do have some uh discussion I'd like to go over. [0:52:03, 0:52:15]: Um so I'll go ahead and pose my question. So I think first of all, the entry level is probably I would I would suggest we start with the entry level subscription. And if we feel like we need to upgrade, we can bring it back to the board for a decision. [0:52:15, 0:52:16]: And um [0:52:17, 0:52:19]: That was basically it. [0:52:19, 0:52:30]: So I mean if you could if you could say what amount you think we would, you know, say maybe a not to exceed amount as far as what we would be approving today. So we're clear on what we're voting on. [0:52:30, 0:52:33]: Not to see thirty one dollars a month. [0:52:33, 0:52:34]: Per month. [0:52:34, 0:52:35]: Okay. [0:52:36, 0:52:41]: And that's the good thing. Like you know you can always upgrade and downgrade at any point in time. You're never locked in. [0:52:41, 0:52:45]: Um, you know, you there's that flexibility is always there. [0:52:45, 0:52:46]: All right. [0:52:47, 0:52:55]: So we have a motion and a second for um accounting software at$31 a month to help manage the books. Um any other discussion? [0:52:56, 0:53:02]: Uh one uh could it be just paid the whole twelve months instead of every month looking for a bill? Well it'll be easy that way. [0:53:03, 0:53:13]: Well, it doesn't quite s I don't think it works that way. I can double check and every comp every company take every company take the money in advance. Well like I said, it's a month it's a month. [0:53:14, 0:53:20]: block them on subscription and I don't uh mm I can double check but for the sake of moving the vote forward. [0:53:20, 0:53:26]: Is there a way I can modify that so that we don't I don't have to, you know, wait on a decision to [0:53:26, 0:53:37]: to do that, but promise to bring an update about how if we can pay an annual fee. Right. Yeah. You don't have the model. Yeah. Okay. That's just not another waste that every month you get something. I mean it just, you know. [0:53:37, 0:53:38]: Yeah. [0:53:40, 0:53:54]: 'Cause who'll the bill come to? Will it come to you and then we pay you every month thirty one dollars? Uh oh, good question. Actually, no, the the way that it works is it's it's actually drafted. It's actually uh either built to a card or a bank account. So it's like the auto pay. [0:53:54, 0:53:55]: But [0:53:57, 0:54:04]: So what what it comes straight from the treasury account or still person? The operating account. [0:54:04, 0:54:06]: Okay. So the vo the vote here kind of [0:54:07, 0:54:13]: functions as that approval that we would need if we were gonna be getting a monthly invoice in hand. [0:54:13, 0:54:21]: So it just it's either if there's a card associated with the account or if it's just right out of the account, the bank account itself, it's just an auto pay each month. [0:54:24, 0:54:35]: And and Barber, do you know if that would serve both accounts that we manage, both the operating account and to serve that and the facade grant account? All right. Any other discussion or questions? [0:54:38, 0:54:45]: I am not seeing anyone. So um uh Mr. Schwigert, if you'll uh be ready to cut a roll call for the vote on whether [0:54:46, 0:54:49]: uh to allow um up to thirty one dollars a month [0:54:50, 0:54:54]: Expense for accounting software called zero. [0:54:54, 0:54:57]: Uh subscribed annually if it allows it. [0:54:58, 0:55:00]: And uh so we'll go down to roll call. [0:55:01, 0:55:01]: Okay. [0:55:02, 0:55:03]: Oh [0:55:04, 0:55:06]: Roger Custon. I'll vote yes. [0:55:07, 0:55:08]: Uh Arthur Christian. [0:55:09, 0:55:10]: Yes. [0:55:11, 0:55:12]: Barber Richardson. [0:55:12, 0:55:13]: Yes. [0:55:13, 0:55:15]: Actual Sears. [0:55:15, 0:55:16]: Yes. [0:55:17, 0:55:20]: Uh Bob Swagger Well, yes. Uh Senequa King. [0:55:20, 0:55:21]: Yes. [0:55:22, 0:55:23]: All right. [0:55:23, 0:55:24]: Thank you. Thank you. [0:55:25, 0:55:25]: Thank you. [0:55:25, 0:55:27]: Excuse me. Um [0:55:28, 0:55:32]: And and um any other updates for the group, uh Barber? [0:55:33, 0:55:34]: As far as treasure [0:55:35, 0:55:36]: No. [0:55:37, 0:55:43]: All right, we'll move on to the next item of the agenda. That's uh for you, Bob. Um uh updates from the treasure. [0:55:44, 0:55:46]: I mean the secretary, excuse me. [0:55:46, 0:55:49]: Okay. Um I met with um Roger [0:55:50, 0:55:58]: uh last week and he um transferred the uh the the the paper files of the um D DA records and also the um [0:55:59, 0:56:00]: Uh that's not drive. [0:56:01, 0:56:03]: And so I um I have that. [0:56:05, 0:56:06]: Great. [0:56:07, 0:56:09]: Any other updates you want to mention while you have the floor? [0:56:11, 0:56:18]: All right. Um I'll mention a couple more things. I also gave a copy of those records to uh Vanessa, the city clerk. [0:56:18, 0:56:34]: And there's a little bit more work to do as far as the transitioning as um there is some paper files that are at City Hall right now that uh I need to go through and probably do that with Bob at some point and get I might ideally we'd like to get that. [0:56:34, 0:56:47]: um copied and digitized and um and then so we'll keep you updated on that. Uh Mr. Sears, I see you your hand up. Also as uh as the new chair, I would like a copy of that too, so that if you know it available. [0:56:48, 0:56:51]: I can know what you give him because you know nobody C C me or [0:56:51, 0:56:52]: No, me on it. [0:56:53, 0:56:59]: So I'm of that to be included. So you can make it in whatever is there, then I'll leave I'll know what's going on also. [0:57:00, 0:57:05]: I will take that as an action item to send you a copy of the files that I shared with both Bob and Vanessa. [0:57:06, 0:57:07]: Thank you. [0:57:07, 0:57:08]: All right, very good. Thank you for that. [0:57:09, 0:57:16]: All right, we'll move on to the next item on the agenda, which is the uh facade grant. So uh Art, you've got the floor. [0:57:17, 0:57:23]: Uh yes. And actually I don't have much of an update. I just um but I'm glad uh Mr. Peterson is on. Uh [0:57:24, 0:57:27]: Uh welcome aboard. Uh you and Miss King, both of you. [0:57:27, 0:57:29]: And I do Mr. Peace, I do have a question regarding [0:57:30, 0:57:36]: The facade grant, um, specifically there's one business owner who has performed some work. [0:57:37, 0:57:51]: in which both the Main Street and Downtown Development Authority had been involved at one point in time under um some different with different a different board member in terms of monitoring [0:57:51, 0:57:54]: The progress and the payout reimbursement of that grant. [0:57:55, 0:57:57]: And um my question is um [0:57:58, 0:58:00]: In previous meetings I had mentioned that I didn't want to [0:58:01, 0:58:05]: Duplicate my efforts, but wanted to uh do it in concert with. [0:58:05, 0:58:07]: Um Main street. [0:58:07, 0:58:08]: Um [0:58:08, 0:58:10]: But but unfortunately we haven't. [0:58:11, 0:58:18]: had a Main Street representative on a board meeting probably in about three or four meetings now. So my question is, um [0:58:18, 0:58:19]: Does Main Street re [0:58:20, 0:58:22]: port under you or is that a separate [0:58:23, 0:58:25]: Entity and even if it is separate. [0:58:25, 0:58:33]: Um, is there a way that we can coordinate so that um I can meet with them and we can talk about how to move forward? [0:58:34, 0:58:41]: Um, with the reimbursement. I know there were some particular things that were needed to be ironed out, and I just want to make sure that I'm not going behind something that's already been done. [0:58:42, 0:58:46]: Right. Um I actually had my my hand raised earlier. [0:58:46, 0:58:57]: And I dropped it when I realized the facade grant was on the agenda later on. I did have a question about the facade grant, but uh to answer your question, yes, Main Street is uh under the [0:58:57, 0:58:59]: Um economic development. [0:58:59, 0:59:00]: Department. [0:59:00, 0:59:01]: And um [0:59:02, 0:59:05]: We'll we we need to talk about the facade grant. Um [0:59:05, 0:59:07]: So we can, you know. [0:59:07, 0:59:08]: Figure that out. [0:59:08, 0:59:12]: Um and I have questions about the facade grant as well. Um [0:59:13, 0:59:18]: So I I I know we're on the um January one through December thirty one budget cycle. [0:59:19, 0:59:21]: Is the facade grant on that same budget cycle? [0:59:23, 0:59:27]: That's my understanding, yes. Okay, okay. So um [0:59:28, 0:59:30]: So um I I take it that we [0:59:31, 0:59:36]: Since it's it's only January, we haven't received any facade grant applications for twenty twenty one yet. Is that correct? [0:59:38, 0:59:40]: That's correct. Okay. Um [0:59:40, 0:59:42]: So do we have any [0:59:42, 0:59:53]: uh applications that have requested to carry over to 2021 that didn't finish the work in 2020 because of COVID or any other issue that might have might have come up. [0:59:55, 0:59:58]: I don't know. I have not received any requests for carry over. [0:59:59, 1:00:04]: However, it has been my understanding that there have been some expenses that have not been reimbursed. [1:00:04, 1:00:07]: Okay. And and so one of the things that I um [1:00:08, 1:00:11]: discussed with the board previously and we did receive a [1:00:12, 1:00:14]: copy of um [1:00:14, 1:00:18]: Some D VA policies uh from our board attorney. [1:00:19, 1:00:19]: Um [1:00:19, 1:00:31]: that I'd love to share with you um or have shared with you so that um even with you know your experience you may have something that you know could add some some depth to that and some some definition to it. [1:00:31, 1:00:33]: Okay, so it it it sounds like [1:00:33, 1:00:34]: Um [1:00:35, 1:00:39]: Well let me it it sounds like the process just needs some iron out and some [1:00:40, 1:00:41]: Some concrete. [1:00:42, 1:00:44]: methods of getting these reimbursements out. [1:00:44, 1:00:45]: Correct. [1:00:45, 1:00:47]: Okay. Um [1:00:48, 1:00:53]: So has how many people, how many applicants from 2020 have not received their funding? [1:00:54, 1:00:54]: Do you know? [1:00:56, 1:01:01]: I I believe it's one, but Barber you can go ahead and and speak to that. [1:01:01, 1:01:13]: I did speak with uh Mr. Peterson. I do uh we have a newly created function as a liaison on the Main Street board and I serve as as the liaison. So I did speak to um [1:01:14, 1:01:16]: Miss Braggs about that briefly. [1:01:16, 1:01:17]: Um [1:01:18, 1:01:35]: There was one business owner, I'm not really sure when his work began, if it was twenty nineteen or twenty twenty. Um, the issue with him being reimbursed is that I guess there's been some turnover on this board. He the business owner is stating that he had given the receipts already to a board member who [1:01:35, 1:01:40]: no longer on the board. So I don't even know how we move forward from that. But [1:01:40, 1:01:42]: To answer your question specifically. [1:01:43, 1:01:45]: I don't know if his project [1:01:46, 1:01:50]: is carrying on from twenty twenty or if this project was actually in twenty nineteen. [1:01:50, 1:01:53]: Oh, okay. So it could be from twenty nine two years ago. [1:01:55, 1:01:56]: Oh okay. Um [1:01:57, 1:02:01]: Yeah. Because COVID was COVID had it what March twenty twenty. [1:02:01, 1:02:14]: March of twenty twenty is is when everything schools and everything. Well, unless he got it all done, unless he did everything the first two months of twenty twenty, this very well could be a carryover from even a prior year. [1:02:15, 1:02:16]: Okay. Um [1:02:18, 1:02:19]: All right. Uh well [1:02:20, 1:02:24]: I have experience running a facade grant program. So um it's [1:02:25, 1:02:26]: Uh my opinion that [1:02:27, 1:02:28]: Um [1:02:28, 1:02:29]: The board would have to vote. [1:02:29, 1:02:30]: On whether to [1:02:31, 1:02:32]: You know, move that. [1:02:32, 1:02:35]: That application over to twenty twenty one. [1:02:36, 1:02:38]: But that's that's up that's up to you all. [1:02:38, 1:02:39]: Uh but [1:02:39, 1:02:44]: From listening now, I w I I think that we just need to make sure that [1:02:45, 1:02:45]: The [1:02:46, 1:02:52]: Well, I I first want to ask what's what's the process, you know, after the after the application is turned in. [1:02:52, 1:02:54]: Uh, what's the process? [1:02:55, 1:03:05]: Um, so that the applicant does get the funding. What's what's that process? I think that was Mr. Christian's point that we needed some oh okay. [1:03:06, 1:03:07]: Yes. Yeah. [1:03:08, 1:03:08]: Okay. [1:03:10, 1:03:14]: There was nothing that I saw that was concrete in writing. [1:03:15, 1:03:23]: Okay, so that's when I request from our T Yes. Okay, we need to put that put that in in um in writing and have the vo have the board vote on it. [1:03:23, 1:03:26]: And put something online so that applicants know exactly. [1:03:27, 1:03:31]: uh what to do. Also what is the um in twenty twenty [1:03:32, 1:03:36]: Does anyone know how many applications were received? [1:03:38, 1:03:42]: None that I know. None. Oh, so no applications were received in twenty twenty. [1:03:42, 1:03:44]: So we need to improve the marketing. [1:03:44, 1:03:46]: Mm-hmm. [1:03:47, 1:03:48]: Definitely. Okay. [1:03:48, 1:03:50]: All right. Um [1:03:50, 1:03:52]: Got you. Okay, so [1:03:52, 1:03:55]: Um just marketing in a concrete [1:03:55, 1:03:59]: Process. Yes. Okay. Correct. What is the [1:04:01, 1:04:02]: What is the budget? [1:04:04, 1:04:04]: For the grant. [1:04:08, 1:04:10]: Is it forty five thousand? [1:04:11, 1:04:14]: That that sounds about right. We'd have to look at our records, yes. [1:04:14, 1:04:15]: Right now we have [1:04:16, 1:04:19]: Unspent funds, but I believe the annual. [1:04:20, 1:04:21]: Forty five or [1:04:21, 1:04:22]: Forty five or fifty thousand. Oh [1:04:24, 1:04:24]: Somewhere in there. [1:04:25, 1:04:29]: Think the annual is fifty thousand. Is fifty up currently as [1:04:30, 1:04:31]: Currently there's um [1:04:32, 1:04:33]: Miss Richardson mentioned. [1:04:33, 1:04:37]: You have you have almost forty five thousand in the account now. [1:04:37, 1:04:41]: And um former director mentioned that fifty thousand [1:04:41, 1:04:45]: needed chairm chairperson needs to be moved from operating [1:04:45, 1:04:46]: To [1:04:47, 1:04:50]: The uh facade grant. So basically it would be a little less than [1:04:50, 1:04:52]: A hundred thousand. A hundred thousand. [1:04:52, 1:04:53]: Right. [1:04:53, 1:04:55]: Ninety four thousand dollars. Um [1:04:56, 1:04:59]: So there there will be ninety four thousand in twenty twenty one. [1:05:00, 1:05:02]: Correct. Is that what you're saying? [1:05:03, 1:05:03]: Okay. [1:05:04, 1:05:06]: But keeping in mind that we still have to reimburse. [1:05:08, 1:05:08]: The uh [1:05:09, 1:05:10]: Just that one owner. [1:05:10, 1:05:13]: But he probably a max of five thousand. And how much uh [1:05:15, 1:05:16]: Max of five thousand. [1:05:16, 1:05:20]: That's my understanding is that the facade grant maxed out at five thousand. [1:05:20, 1:05:21]: Um [1:05:24, 1:05:25]: Yeah. [1:05:26, 1:05:30]: So a business owner would have had to incur ten thousand dollars. [1:05:31, 1:05:37]: Right. If they incurred at least ten thousand dollars in expenses, then we reimburse fifty percent up to five thousand. [1:05:43, 1:05:50]: And my just my understanding with that is that the that's within the DDA's discretion that if we wanted to revisit that. [1:05:50, 1:05:55]: and and kind of, you know, modify that criteria and and expense threshold that we could. [1:05:57, 1:06:00]: Okay. Okay. Okay. [1:06:02, 1:06:03]: Miss Halliday. [1:06:03, 1:06:04]: Chair Custom. [1:06:05, 1:06:13]: I just wanted to clarify these numbers to record them properly. I know that going back to the operating budget. [1:06:14, 1:06:15]: Um [1:06:17, 1:06:19]: It was mentioned. [1:06:22, 1:06:25]: That there was ninety seven thousand four oh four. [1:06:25, 1:06:26]: Sixty one [1:06:26, 1:06:33]: And that there was an additional forty four thousand nine seventy two oh five in the facade grant account. [1:06:34, 1:06:34]: But [1:06:35, 1:06:40]: What I just heard someone say something about there will be ninety thousand in facade. [1:06:41, 1:06:43]: Which means for fifty thousand. [1:06:44, 1:06:48]: I have a note that we need to transfer fifty thousand out of operating. [1:06:48, 1:06:50]: Into the facade. [1:06:51, 1:06:56]: So fifty out of the ninety-seven thousand that's currently in operating. [1:06:57, 1:07:00]: It's going to go to the facade grant account. [1:07:14, 1:07:15]: Okay, thank you. [1:07:18, 1:07:21]: Any other discussion, Art or Barber on that? [1:07:24, 1:07:28]: No, just that I I welcome us to get together as as soon as possible, you know, to get started on this. [1:07:29, 1:07:31]: Yeah, yeah. I'm I'm going to [1:07:32, 1:07:33]: Um [1:07:33, 1:07:35]: Shoot you all, shoot you an email. [1:07:36, 1:07:39]: So we can get the conversation rolling. It's my goal. [1:07:40, 1:07:40]: Um [1:07:41, 1:07:42]: To have [1:07:42, 1:07:45]: The the process voted on approved for next meeting. [1:07:46, 1:07:47]: Um so that [1:07:48, 1:07:53]: We can start getting applications in about February, March. [1:07:53, 1:07:57]: And I'll email you uh marketing suggestions and [1:07:57, 1:08:00]: Um just process suggestions as well. [1:08:01, 1:08:21]: Thank you. Thank you. And and and Mr. Peterson, I'll I'll add a couple of points on that discussion. Um, my business was the first um beneficiary of the facade grant. So I was familiar with being on the receiving end of that. Um it was it, you know, we were first, so I know it was a little bit of a convoluted process then and it does need some smoothing out. [1:08:21, 1:08:41]: One of the a couple of points on the open application. One of the nuances there is that this individual's facade involves a, I believe, a painted sign on the side of the building, and that sort of overlaps. Our facade grant does not cover the expense for a sign. [1:08:41, 1:08:45]: But since the sign is part of the building exterior and part of the painting. [1:08:45, 1:08:50]: They're kind of meshed in this particular case, as I understand it. So I [1:08:50, 1:08:56]: Part of it is um the hold up of the payment of the signed fee for the city. [1:08:57, 1:09:01]: And I would be, you know, I would I would welcome if the board would consider [1:09:01, 1:09:02]: Um [1:09:03, 1:09:07]: funding that portion of the fee in this particular case because it's a bit of a [1:09:07, 1:09:12]: you know it's a bit of an unusual circumstance where the sign is part of the facade. [1:09:12, 1:09:17]: Um and maybe we consider modifying the rules to include that. [1:09:17, 1:09:27]: uh maybe any fees associated with the facade as part of the scope that we would consider as part of the grant. So that's that's one item to kind of put in there. [1:09:27, 1:09:40]: The other um is the I believe the the paperwork that was received by me as secret I was serving as secretary before, you know, then in the previous year the with the others that were working on this particular um application. [1:09:41, 1:10:01]: We did not, I did not see any actual receipts. The paperwork I did receive were um proposals and bids, but not actual receipts of the work done. So the expectation would be that we, you know, the business owner would show, I paid these vendors, it's offering clear. [1:10:01, 1:10:03]: [4204.4, 4206.2]: Uh wanting to get reimbursed for. [1:10:06, 1:10:13]: And I don't believe I have not seen evidence as secretary or in my service to the board yet that that has happened. [1:10:13, 1:10:17]: Um, but I just wanted to clear those two items that we may want to consider. [1:10:17, 1:10:26]: the signed fee to the city as part of the reimbursement, maybe as a special case for this application, and what we've received thus far. [1:10:28, 1:10:32]: And uh Kira Harris Bra Braggs has been really [1:10:32, 1:10:34]: helping us with [1:10:34, 1:10:37]: both mainstream program marketing the um [1:10:37, 1:10:41]: the facade grant and working with this particular individual. [1:10:46, 1:10:50]: All right, any other I'll move on to the next item on the agenda if there's no other discussion on that. [1:10:52, 1:10:53]: Um [1:10:53, 1:11:08]: And I'll add uh Mr. Peterson, we would I would I would if if the if if the board's okay with it, I would add as a standing item to the agenda city staff updates to which you know I would name you as the um presenter for that portion of our meeting. [1:11:09, 1:11:10]: Going forward. [1:11:12, 1:11:27]: Um and then the last item is the uh we don't I don't see that uh councilwoman Gantt has joined us for this meeting, just double checking. So I'll move out we'll skip the uh city council updates and um we'll move to the main street advisory updo updates. Uh [1:11:28, 1:11:31]: Barber, you're serving as liaison. Would you like any updates for the group? [1:11:32, 1:11:33]: Yeah, mute. [1:11:33, 1:11:40]: Okay, yeah, there we go. All right, so no major updates, but one thing that I did want to bring to the board, um, and this is on [1:11:40, 1:11:43]: Perfect timing on the heels of the facade for that discussion. [1:11:43, 1:11:51]: Um, one of the things that I I believe that Main Street was very interested in doing is is getting some sort of design standards for the downtown area. [1:11:52, 1:11:56]: And as such, um, would be very happy to have [1:11:56, 1:11:57]: To form a steering committee. [1:11:58, 1:12:04]: that consists of both, you know, Main Street board members as well as DDA board members. So I [1:12:05, 1:12:17]: I personally think that's a great idea and I wanted to bring that to the board to get you, you know, everyone's buy-in on um agreeing to be a part of that process because uh apparently we don't really have any [1:12:17, 1:12:18]: Uh [1:12:18, 1:12:23]: standard or you know any type of design standards for our area. [1:12:23, 1:12:40]: Um, so I think as we continue to move forward this year with the facade grant and really pushing that out and marketing it and hoping to get business owners to get excited about that, um, that we can also think about how we want our downtown to look. [1:12:40, 1:12:44]: Um and as such create some sort of standards. [1:12:44, 1:12:45]: Um [1:12:46, 1:12:49]: You know, to to maintain that or to get that. [1:12:49, 1:12:50]: So [1:12:50, 1:12:54]: I don't know if that needs to be a vote or if this is just a point of discussion. [1:12:55, 1:13:00]: Um, that I could take back to Cure and the rest of the board said, Hey, DDA's on board, you know. [1:13:01, 1:13:05]: We would love to be part of the steering committee. Um, here are the two or three representatives from the board. [1:13:06, 1:13:08]: Uh who wanna do that. [1:13:08, 1:13:09]: How do we move forward? [1:13:11, 1:13:13]: All right, any discussion on that? [1:13:17, 1:13:25]: I for one will be happy to serve on a steering committee for the design standards if it if you know if we decide to take that approach. [1:13:25, 1:13:28]: And welcome others to participate as well. [1:13:29, 1:13:41]: And that's actually an item on the uh agenda for the uh goals discussion, which we're coming up to next, uh DDA priority. So we can talk a little bit more about that as a potential priority. [1:13:43, 1:13:47]: Yeah, I think it's a great idea'cause, you know, Roger, even in your building, you know, we you know [1:13:48, 1:13:53]: Everyone could it it it already looks like that, you know, to some extent, right? Everyone kinda has their own. [1:13:54, 1:13:54]: Yeah. [1:13:55, 1:13:56]: Look. Right. [1:13:57, 1:14:04]: So you know, we we we you know, we have the amphitheater coming, we have a lot of great things going on and so I think this is a good time. [1:14:05, 1:14:06]: I agree. [1:14:07, 1:14:10]: Any other updates? I I agree. That sounds like a great idea. [1:14:10, 1:14:13]: Oh sure. I was just saying I that sounds like a great idea to uh [1:14:13, 1:14:15]: Have something a more uniform look. [1:14:16, 1:14:16]: And um [1:14:17, 1:14:17]: Input from [1:14:18, 1:14:20]: You know, Main Street D DA and of course [1:14:20, 1:14:23]: You know, the public and business owners. For sure. Yeah. [1:14:24, 1:14:24]: Yeah. [1:14:25, 1:14:27]: All right, anything else from the main street? [1:14:29, 1:14:30]: Father. [1:14:30, 1:14:32]: Um no, I'm sorry, that's that's uh [1:14:33, 1:14:34]: That's that for now. [1:14:34, 1:14:35]: Okay. [1:14:35, 1:14:49]: Which uh is a great segue for the um discussion on the uh goals for the DDA. So let me uh set up my window and I'm gonna uh share my screen for a moment here. Give me a second. [1:14:52, 1:14:55]: All right. [1:14:56, 1:14:56]: Yeah. [1:14:58, 1:14:59]: Yeah. [1:15:00, 1:15:01]: This one [1:15:04, 1:15:10]: All right, let me know if you can see the um draft DDA priorities. [1:15:16, 1:15:19]: Doing a screen share check. Can y'all see this? [1:15:22, 1:15:26]: Okay. Yes, I'm not going to be able to do you're all on mute, but I think you're saying yes. [1:15:27, 1:15:28]: Okay, I'll take it as a yes. [1:15:29, 1:15:32]: Um so um [1:15:32, 1:15:33]: This is um [1:15:34, 1:15:41]: This is a sort of a presentation I've I've shared with the board now for uh since I joined about uh two years ago. [1:15:42, 1:15:55]: Um and before I get into too specifics, I want to elaborate a little bit more about um on my background and and and and to give context to to what I see here and what I'd like to offer as a priority for the DDA. [1:15:55, 1:15:56]: Um [1:15:56, 1:16:04]: I grew up in Miami and moved to uh Midtown Atlanta for my first job out of college in uh the late 80s. [1:16:04, 1:16:07]: Um and it may be hard to um [1:16:07, 1:16:09]: Imagine this for some people, but [1:16:10, 1:16:13]: In the nineteen seventies, uh, South Beach was [1:16:14, 1:16:16]: Extremely run down. [1:16:16, 1:16:21]: It was boarded up. The shopping had moved to malls in that era. [1:16:21, 1:16:27]: Uh midtown was the same way we moved here in the in the in the late eighties. It was a rough place to be. [1:16:28, 1:16:47]: Um, for those who are unfamiliar with that time and those places, um, you now know them as a very desirable place, it's upscale living, it's uh you know a global destination, uh especially when you think about South Beach. Um that's the I've watched those neighborhoods grow from. [1:16:48, 1:16:57]: Boarded up, you know, empty storefronts to what it is today. And I've seen the conditions that led to that transformation. [1:16:58, 1:17:05]: And these are the items that I've identified living here in Stockbridge, owning a business on Main Street as [1:17:05, 1:17:10]: the factors that will lead to can contribute to that type of growth for our city. [1:17:11, 1:17:12]: Um [1:17:12, 1:17:23]: I'll start off with some of these items specifically. So what I'd like to do is go over these. Um there's two pages. The first page is what um I would propose be the top priorities for. [1:17:23, 1:17:32]: Uh the DDA and the second page is other considerations. And we can move some into the first page if we think that is appropriate. [1:17:33, 1:17:53]: The first item is related to the master plan or an overall walking path for the downtown area. So the city has made an excellent investment with the amphitheater. I think we're all excited to see that come to fruition. There is very serious work and planning involved with the Arts Center. [1:17:52, 1:17:55]: Center on the other side of Burke Street. [1:17:55, 1:18:11]: And I believe we very strongly that we need a walking path to connect both of these investments to the downtown because you don't build these things just to build them. You build them to bring life and vitality and economic development to the city. [1:18:11, 1:18:16]: And there's gotta be a walking path from the amphitheater to Main Street. Right now there is none. [1:18:17, 1:18:24]: Um, there's just not you if you if you want to walk from the proposed site of the amphitheater to M OK Senior Heritage Trail. [1:18:24, 1:18:36]: You're either climbing over a railroad ditch, you're walking over a roadway, or you're walking over the pedestrian with, you know, 45 mile an hour traffic two feet away from you. It's not safe. [1:18:36, 1:18:40]: Um, so that's in my opinion a top priority. [1:18:41, 1:18:53]: Um we did initiate a master plan to help answer some of these questions, but the city, um there was a lack of support from the city at the time, or you kind of grew to that. [1:18:53, 1:18:57]: And um and there was a need for the city to [1:18:57, 1:19:00]: Um fund as promised a um [1:19:01, 1:19:08]: uh an uh an economic forecast that would give inform what the master plan would uh support [1:19:08, 1:19:17]: And I'm in favor of all that, although I do recognize that there are some either in the city staff or in the council who may feel that. [1:19:17, 1:19:18]: Um [1:19:18, 1:19:22]: We've got too much planning and not enough doing, maybe, is might be the sentiment. [1:19:23, 1:19:31]: Um, with or without a master plan, I think we've got to define the pedestrian path from the amphitheater to the downtown. That's my first point. [1:19:32, 1:19:52]: Um, the next one is the Alleyway project. And my understanding from the Main Street program, they've they've led the charge with uh this particular uh item, and that is already in the engineering phase. The idea is to uh resolve some of the drainage issues, resurface the lot, and make that an attractive place for people to come and possibly have events. [1:19:52, 1:20:03]: in the uh in the back alley between the two and we kind of become like this uh neat little um alcove in this height in the heart of our downtown. And I think that can bring uh some development in and of itself. [1:20:04, 1:20:06]: Um the quiet crossing [1:20:06, 1:20:25]: Um it's in my opinion essential for uh outdoor dining, which is in itself essential in a post-COVID world. It's also essential for a radius of residential from the from the railroad. Um it it may not [1:20:26, 1:20:26]: Prevent [1:20:27, 1:20:31]: economic development within a proximity of the railroad, but it does severely limit it. [1:20:32, 1:20:41]: And lastly, uh just the general approach to establish a destination for our downtown. And that can take the shape of many things. Um, it could be a welcome center, artwork. [1:20:42, 1:20:57]: a park trailhead sculptures. Um some of the work that uh the down uh the city is doing is to transform uh my understanding is that uh one of the buildings will be transformed into a welcome center and I think that will [1:20:58, 1:20:59]: Um [1:20:59, 1:21:03]: Offer an opp opportunity to meet that particular goal. [1:21:04, 1:21:12]: So let me pause here and kind of open it up for questions, discussion on the items listed on this first page that I've reviewed. [1:21:18, 1:21:21]: I I think they're all great ideas. [1:21:22, 1:21:22]: Let's do it. [1:21:23, 1:21:24]: All right. [1:21:24, 1:21:25]: Thank you, Bob. [1:21:26, 1:21:28]: Any other thoughts, uh feedback? [1:21:28, 1:21:29]: On any of them? [1:21:30, 1:21:33]: I co sign on all of that um for all the reasons mentioned. Um [1:21:34, 1:21:35]: 'Cause definitely [1:21:36, 1:21:39]: A pathway is definitely needed. It's it's not safe uh at all. [1:21:40, 1:21:41]: And um [1:21:41, 1:21:43]: It'll be great to have [1:21:43, 1:21:44]: Something that [1:21:45, 1:21:46]: Helps to link. [1:21:46, 1:21:47]: Ти [1:21:48, 1:21:50]: Amphitheater and [1:21:50, 1:21:51]: City Hall to [1:21:52, 1:21:55]: The business is right across the street in in a way that's appealing. [1:21:56, 1:21:57]: And uh it's uh [1:21:58, 1:21:59]: A good compliment. [1:22:00, 1:22:01]: Thank you. [1:22:02, 1:22:04]: Any other thoughts or feedback, anyone? [1:22:05, 1:22:08]: I echo um Mr. Swagger and Mr. Christian. [1:22:10, 1:22:11]: I do have a question. [1:22:11, 1:22:13]: In terms of the quiet railroad [1:22:14, 1:22:19]: Yes. Um have we heard have you heard anything from the city in terms of their discussions? [1:22:20, 1:22:20]: Uh with [1:22:21, 1:22:22]: Uh the railroad. [1:22:22, 1:22:30]: Uh good. Thank you for asking that because actually there's a few points with that that I failed to mention that I think are worth mentioning. Um [1:22:30, 1:22:38]: Obviously the the railroad owns the property. It's it's their right of way and not n that's not gonna change. [1:22:38, 1:22:39]: Um [1:22:40, 1:22:44]: Railroads in general, I think, are trying to. [1:22:44, 1:22:45]: Um [1:22:46, 1:23:02]: uh close down as many crossings as possible. I guess just there's probably a cost factor and safety and other reasons why they wanna and especially where there are two crossings very close to each other, the railroad is uh in you know interested in maybe uh limiting one or the other. [1:23:02, 1:23:02]: You know. [1:23:03, 1:23:06]: That does present a concern. [1:23:06, 1:23:15]: Um, if we were to consider, say for example, I think the the the s south of one thirty eight, I think the crossing is on a street. If I'm gonna s if I'm saying this right, is I think it's Nolan Street. [1:23:16, 1:23:25]: Um right there behind the food depot and where the uh where the school is is where it crosses. Um if that rail crossing were to be closed down [1:23:26, 1:23:34]: It would severely limit the residents in that historic neighborhood on the south side of the food depot. And um [1:23:34, 1:23:54]: You know, you know, the city could work with Norfolk Southern to sort of do a bit of a trade-off type of thing where, you know, maybe we close down this crossing, but we uh quiet the other one, you know, silence the other one. Um, but we still need to address uh the needs of the of the of the residents and owners of that neighborhood. [1:23:54, 1:23:55]: Okay. [1:23:55, 1:24:02]: And just one idea to throw out here is um for all of you who are familiar with the RSVP visioning. [1:24:02, 1:24:09]: Um there is an an um there is one concept of a pedestrian crossover. [1:24:10, 1:24:11]: It's been envisioned to be. [1:24:12, 1:24:14]: On the north side of one thirty eight. [1:24:16, 1:24:19]: Um, but if we're going to um [1:24:20, 1:24:21]: I guess I'll just throw out there. [1:24:22, 1:24:22]: Mm. [1:24:22, 1:24:32]: One consideration could be to consider moving that pedestrian path. So in other words, close down the vehicular crossing on the railroad on the Nolan Street side. [1:24:32, 1:24:37]: but build a pedestrian pathway on the south side of 138. [1:24:37, 1:24:45]: Um and there's some other considerations on that uh with that concept. It's just an idea. I'm not I'm not speaking on behalf of the railroad or anybody. [1:24:46, 1:24:51]: It's just a way that might um serve the needs of the folks in that neighborhood. [1:24:51, 1:24:56]: And at the same time, you know, manage the silencing of the railroad. [1:25:00, 1:25:00]: Other [1:25:01, 1:25:03]: Thoughts, questions, comments on this one? [1:25:04, 1:25:05]: Or this page. [1:25:06, 1:25:07]: I have a question. [1:25:07, 1:25:08]: Sure. [1:25:08, 1:25:12]: You said the city was not interested in the pedestrian path. [1:25:13, 1:25:15]: Well, it was [1:25:16, 1:25:22]: Let me say this that we're talking about the first item when uh the the the yeah. Um [1:25:22, 1:25:24]: It was more the master planning. [1:25:25, 1:25:26]: Um [1:25:27, 1:25:43]: effort in and of itself. So we the DDA did hire, approved, and funded a master planning to be done by the design firm that has done some of the other planning activities for the city. I think I think the same firm is involved with the uh with the art center concept. [1:25:43, 1:25:47]: And um it in it involved some [1:25:47, 1:25:53]: Answers that needed to be answered by by by the city. Space one of them is like, where do you want the crossing? [1:25:54, 1:25:58]: Cause there was one concept that actually changed the crossing to be somewhere else other than Love Street. [1:25:59, 1:26:14]: And um that um it just it wasn't getting the response that it needed and eventually COVID happened and everything sort of shut down. So that that master planning activity got suspended. [1:26:15, 1:26:16]: We could pursue it. [1:26:17, 1:26:20]: And you know, restart it, but in my opinion. [1:26:20, 1:26:22]: You know, it has to have the support of the city. [1:26:22, 1:26:30]: And so m you know, Mr. Peterson, uh, if you're still with us, maybe uh yeah, yeah, you are. Um, you know, that that's that you know how we go about [1:26:31, 1:26:39]: designing that pedestrian path, whether we just do it through an engineering plan or we do it through a larger master plan. [1:26:40, 1:26:40]: Um [1:26:40, 1:26:48]: I'm open to any approach, but um that's where we left off that master plan. So it's suspended. We could pick it up if we wanted to. [1:26:51, 1:26:56]: Yes, and I'll I'll need to get uh the details leading up to the suspension. [1:26:56, 1:26:57]: of that plan. [1:26:58, 1:27:02]: Um so that's a that's that's another conversation. But it it sounds great and [1:27:02, 1:27:05]: You know, we discussed this when we spoke last week. [1:27:06, 1:27:22]: Very good. I'll move on to the next page here. And these are just other considerations. Now, some of these I I'm I'm I'm I'm feeling like we might move one or more of these to what we would consider our top priority. And the first one is one that Barber spoke to, which is the architectural standards for the city. [1:27:23, 1:27:39]: Um another one is there is there is a building in um in in one of the old storefronts that is uh owned by the city now. And there's some consideration for you know what we call a white box development, which is where you know the building gets [1:27:39, 1:27:41]: Um sort of just uh you know. [1:27:42, 1:27:46]: re renovated to the point where it would be ready for a a tenant. [1:27:47, 1:27:57]: Um the DDA would very likely, depending on the concept and and what type of um development we end up with there, the DDA would very likely be involved with that, maybe as a [1:27:58, 1:28:00]: uh maybe as a a lessor. [1:28:00, 1:28:02]: Is that the right term? Um or [1:28:02, 1:28:07]: some other way. But um I just wanted to mention that to this group that that could come up. [1:28:08, 1:28:25]: There's also a building in front of the Merrmander Center. It's an old stone cottage. Uh, there's some consideration for, you know, that being a smaller event space or maybe like a bridal suite type of concept for the the Merrmanders. Um [1:28:25, 1:28:31]: Not a lot of details to these. These are just uh things that have come up that have been um that may have DDA involvement. [1:28:33, 1:28:39]: I'm sorry, Rachel. Go ahead. Question. The stone cottage, is that the building where there's currently [1:28:39, 1:28:40]: Uh staff in? [1:28:41, 1:28:42]: Or is that a different one? [1:28:42, 1:28:50]: Maybe. I don't know. I'm not exactly sure. I I want to say there's actually two buildings out there. I don't know if they're both owned by the city or if it's the one you're you're speaking of. [1:28:52, 1:28:55]: Question which building exactly is one hundred fourteen M L K? [1:28:56, 1:28:58]: It's um [1:28:58, 1:29:07]: One of the storefronts between Barn Beautiful and the the Ted. So it's one of those old storefronts. It's it it's currently vacant. [1:29:08, 1:29:08]: Okay. [1:29:13, 1:29:25]: All right. Um the trail plan was adopted by the city probably uh many years ago, three, four years ago, I want to say. Um and I'd like to see, you know, it didn't have a lot of specifics, but I what I what [1:29:26, 1:29:33]: Reflecting back on my background from you know where I grew up in Miami and seeing some of these uh neighborhoods transform. [1:29:34, 1:29:39]: Part of the reason that these cities transformed is because there was a solid [1:29:40, 1:29:41]: destination. [1:29:42, 1:29:45]: And now in a post ковід world. [1:29:46, 1:29:50]: We've we've all come to appreciate open air space. [1:29:50, 1:30:00]: And a multi-use trail can really transform. I've seen it happen in Midtown with the, you know, I I can remember attending meetings when the belt line was a concept. [1:30:00, 1:30:01]: And um [1:30:02, 1:30:10]: Indeed, we um have a potential here to connect our downtown as a linear park. [1:30:10, 1:30:12]: to some of these other um [1:30:12, 1:30:17]: uh parks that are already operated by the city and kind of superimpose a [1:30:18, 1:30:21]: A linear park in the center of our downtown. [1:30:22, 1:30:24]: And that alone, I think. [1:30:24, 1:30:25]: can bring [1:30:26, 1:30:34]: many other forms of development because people want to live near a place where they can enjoy the outdoors, walk their dogs, enjoy times with their family and so on safely. [1:30:35, 1:30:35]: Um [1:30:36, 1:30:39]: There's other the Berk Street Plaza and Infill that is a [1:30:39, 1:30:51]: potential idea for the and this is this is on the backside of MLK Senior, if you will, the Burke Street side. There's some uh underutilized uh developments there. [1:30:51, 1:30:56]: um sidewalks throughout and then of course there's the art center and theater as concepts. [1:30:57, 1:31:03]: Not all of these are to-do for DDA, but they can represent things that we may get involved with. [1:31:04, 1:31:08]: So I'll open it up for discussion on any of these. [1:31:14, 1:31:17]: So if you had to uh [1:31:18, 1:31:22]: Go ahead. Yes, please. [1:31:22, 1:31:23]: Wanted to [1:31:23, 1:31:26]: Focus in on one or two of these things as [1:31:26, 1:31:28]: priority items, things that [1:31:28, 1:31:31]: You know, we want to be proactive. [1:31:31, 1:31:33]: in you know, kinda. [1:31:34, 1:31:35]: working on a [1:31:36, 1:31:37]: What would you [1:31:38, 1:31:39]: Choose out of this list. [1:31:40, 1:31:45]: Out of the second page, I would probably prioritize this first one because I know this is foundational work. [1:31:46, 1:31:56]: that needs to happen before other develop before we can comfortably invite a lot of development into the city. Otherwise you end up with a half hazard mix of um buildings that don't really [1:31:57, 1:31:58]: You know. [1:31:59, 1:32:00]: Speak to a sense of place. [1:32:02, 1:32:03]: Okay. [1:32:05, 1:32:08]: Other thoughts, questions, comments? Anyone? [1:32:09, 1:32:12]: I I agree. I think the architectural standards is probably [1:32:13, 1:32:15]: would probably be buying number of [1:32:15, 1:32:17]: Number one on the second page there. [1:32:17, 1:32:17]: Yeah. [1:32:19, 1:32:20]: Okay. [1:32:24, 1:32:25]: Any other thoughts? [1:32:28, 1:32:38]: All right. Um so what I'm hearing is maybe even move this uh architectural standards to the to the to this being our if this is gonna be our top priority. I think there was kind of a general consensus with that. [1:32:39, 1:32:42]: And then we add to that the architectural standard. So we would have kind [1:32:43, 1:32:47]: I would say the way I would I view this is sort of have five foundational [1:32:48, 1:32:50]: elements that that guide [1:32:50, 1:32:53]: The work that we do as a DDA. [1:32:56, 1:33:00]: Any other thoughts before I close this part of the discussion? [1:33:01, 1:33:03]: I agree with moving that to a top priority. [1:33:04, 1:33:04]: All right. [1:33:06, 1:33:11]: All right, I will um stop sharing and we'll move on to the next item. Give me a moment here. [1:33:12, 1:33:32]: Um, I think the only thing that remains for today's agenda is uh just a a a brief update on the um the pending um sale that was, you know, it was made notice in a in a public meeting. Um as as you remember, there's there's two elements to the transaction. The first is an intergovernmental agreement between the DDA. [1:33:32, 1:33:39]: the city. And the second part is of course the purchase and sale agreement between the DDA and the buyer. [1:33:40, 1:33:55]: There's been some good work done on both of those. In fact, the intergovernmental agreement or the IGA I signed uh this morning. The concerns that I mentioned to you in an email to the group last week were all addressed. And we're just waiting for the formal [1:33:55, 1:34:07]: you know, wet signature copy to get routed to the appropriate parties, but they do have uh a digital copy of my signature uh representing the DDA. And I've shared that with with all of you. [1:34:07, 1:34:20]: Um the purchase and sale agreement has we are uh we are waiting for the I guess the copy, if you will, from the uh the city's attorney also to be routed. So those those both of those are in motion. [1:34:21, 1:34:30]: Any thoughts or questions about any of that that we can speak in a public setting and or does anyone need to go into a closed session to discuss the real estate transaction? [1:34:31, 1:34:35]: Guess we could go into closed session if if we have to, uh we could uh have it [1:34:36, 1:34:40]: My only concern is that I know we are in motion. [1:34:41, 1:34:44]: Uh, I guess we can discuss that in a close session so we can uh either vote. [1:34:46, 1:34:48]: On it since everything is already finalized. [1:34:49, 1:34:50]: Just uh [1:34:50, 1:34:52]: Take it to the next level and vote on it. [1:34:52, 1:34:54]: And those things to be uh [1:34:54, 1:34:56]: Brought up to us later on a update. [1:35:00, 1:35:20]: I I'm not aware of anything that is requiring a vote. So we voted in our last meeting to authorize the chair to serve on behalf of the DDA, and that part's been done. Now it I think it's just a matter of waiting for the final signatures and the earnest money that would accompany the payment. [1:35:20, 1:35:23]: So it's, you know, if you will, my part of it is done at this stage. [1:35:24, 1:35:26]: All right. So just a little clarification because we've been uh [1:35:27, 1:35:27]: You know. [1:35:28, 1:35:29]: Oh while now so [1:35:29, 1:35:30]: Right now. [1:35:31, 1:35:33]: You sign that uh that um [1:35:34, 1:35:36]: The IGA. [1:35:36, 1:35:37]: The IGA will go as [1:35:38, 1:35:39]: To the city. [1:35:39, 1:35:43]: And those two things that you were concerned of that you were satisfied with. [1:35:43, 1:35:45]: Mm-hmm. Yes, both of them, indeed. [1:35:46, 1:35:48]: Yeah, they were addressed uh directly. [1:35:49, 1:35:54]: So the only thing is we hold them back, you say, for the city attorney to get back to to us or get back to the city? [1:35:55, 1:36:00]: uh t to t for the for the final routing of the signatures for the purchase and sale agreement. [1:36:01, 1:36:10]: So I've I've given my authorization and we're just waiting for the final copy to be routed for signature. And as soon as I get it, I'll sign it because I didn't have any. [1:36:11, 1:36:31]: There were no issues or concerns. I mean, I had a few questions on the and I sent that thread to you all. Um, but there there was n nothing on the purchase and sale agreement that would have prevented me from signing it. So we're we're ready to move forward with that. We just need the uh uh up they needed to update the date and just have the final copy. [1:36:31, 1:36:40]: and for me to sign them. As soon as I get that, I'll turn it around the same day. And when when was this sign and and so that we can get an update from the city why they're taking so long to respond back to you? [1:36:41, 1:36:55]: Well, um, it hasn't been on the city side the whole time. Um the the response was slow, frankly, on both sides from uh I I think our attorney in some cases, as well as from the city's attorney. Um, so I I mean I can't speak to [1:36:55, 1:37:06]: what exactly, but it you know, when I when I received it on behalf of the D D A, I turned I either responded with questions or with my, you know, uh signature same day. So [1:37:06, 1:37:08]: Um there's there's no real [1:37:08, 1:37:12]: I've not I'm not aware of anything that is held up on the DDA side. [1:37:14, 1:37:17]: All right. Well well, I mean if that's the case, then we just like an update. [1:37:17, 1:37:23]: Uh not by the next meeting, but an update in terms when they do correspond to you and everything is transferred over. [1:37:24, 1:37:29]: Uh, because that was one of the issues that I was concerned over this was dragging on too long because we had this almost three months now. [1:37:30, 1:37:34]: That's right. Uh and you know, and for us just to go through another question was [1:37:34, 1:37:35]: Address like you said. [1:37:36, 1:37:39]: Service on the city side and let that be known that we did our job. [1:37:40, 1:37:41]: Uh, you already signed it. [1:37:42, 1:37:43]: And you're just waiting for them. [1:37:43, 1:37:46]: Just for clarification for everybody here, just waiting for the dam to [1:37:47, 1:37:48]: To accept it or [1:37:49, 1:37:50]: To get back to you. [1:37:50, 1:37:52]: to route the final copy for signature. [1:37:53, 1:37:57]: I I think the negotiation, all the terms have been agreed to. There's no [1:37:58, 1:38:04]: There's no I'm not aware of any pending items where we're waiting for them to agree to something that we're asking for. There's none of that on the [1:38:05, 1:38:08]: Uh PSA, uh we're just waiting for the final copy to sign off. [1:38:09, 1:38:09]: That's it. [1:38:10, 1:38:17]: All right, that's what I said. Just give us an update, you know, I mean w you know, when that is done so we don't have to wait for the next month to bring this back to the table. [1:38:17, 1:38:24]: Uh'cause I was if if it wasn't do it, I was gonna bring a motion forward to be uh, you know, adjudicated today. [1:38:24, 1:38:27]: So that we will, you know, make a decision one time and over. [1:38:28, 1:38:32]: Uh,'cause we've got to get old business and that's really old business. [1:38:32, 1:38:36]: And we say we want to do new things and uh um you know make the city [1:38:36, 1:38:39]: Go forward and be uh responsible, so let's not. [1:38:39, 1:38:40]: Uh you know. [1:38:40, 1:38:41]: Delay things that [1:38:42, 1:38:43]: We'll take that block. [1:38:43, 1:39:01]: Right. Understood. Yeah. And I agree. I I will certainly uh I hadn't been giving you any regular updates because uh in the intervals in between there wasn't really much to update. So but indeed uh the next step's going to be a signature. So I'll leave it at this. Um if I don't get a feedback within um [1:39:01, 1:39:17]: Uh, I'll say by the end of next week, you know, I expect this will be a matter of a day or two that that we would get the routed copies and for me to sign. And if that happens, I'll inform everyone. Um, if not, I'll at least send in a uh send you all an update with the latest status by next Friday. [1:39:17, 1:39:24]: Yeah, and I just wanted to be and I just wanna be on record that if it's not done then I I'll call emergency meeting for us to have a [1:39:24, 1:39:26]: uh vote on it and to get rid of it. [1:39:26, 1:39:27]: All right. [1:39:27, 1:39:28]: Noted. [1:39:29, 1:39:30]: Any other discussion? [1:39:31, 1:39:35]: Uh one thing I would say is I would recommend that whether it's um [1:39:36, 1:39:40]: on our side with our attorney or the city attorney that [1:39:41, 1:39:48]: not just emails be sent, but that somebody pick up the phone call, pick up the phone and actually contact that other person to make sh to let them know, hey. [1:39:48, 1:39:51]: I just send it over, you know, it's a waiting, you know. [1:39:52, 1:39:53]: Action on your part. [1:39:53, 1:39:55]: 'Cause I think that was part of the issue. [1:39:56, 1:39:56]: Um [1:39:57, 1:39:58]: Emails were being sent. [1:39:59, 1:40:00]: But no one was picking up the phone. [1:40:01, 1:40:11]: And and I agree I agree with you, uh, Christian. That's a very good point because that was happened when we were bringing back with uh ninth street and uh the debate between whether this person was doing something and the email was stuck. [1:40:12, 1:40:19]: And nobody called and said, I sent you that two weeks ago and it's a month now. Did you get it? Did you receive it? Could you give me a feedback? [1:40:20, 1:40:23]: And that's more responsible because now you're keeping that person accountable. [1:40:23, 1:40:25]: Because once you make a record off it [1:40:26, 1:40:29]: There's no excuse for them, because choice limits excuse. [1:40:29, 1:40:34]: And we just got to start giving people choice so that they can be responsible so that we can know what to do next. [1:40:34, 1:40:45]: And uh and also I want an update of all the board's phone numbers, uh, because I had time, you know, just phone numbers and update and uh titles and positions so people can know who to who. [1:40:46, 1:40:47]: Who is in the D DA? [1:40:48, 1:40:52]: So I I don't know if the secretary does that or the ch uh the chair. [1:40:52, 1:40:58]: Um, I can help lead that, but um I did pose the question. Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Sears. Um [1:40:59, 1:41:01]: I'll just ask it, you know, publicly and don't [1:41:01, 1:41:05]: Give me your phone numbers here now, but is does anyone object? [1:41:05, 1:41:21]: to uh some of you have already responded and I've noted those, but if anyone has an objection to sharing your phone numbers with the other members of the board, um please let me know tonight after this meeting because otherwise I will send a complete list of everyone's phone numbers. [1:41:21, 1:41:23]: to everyone on this board. [1:41:23, 1:41:34]: Um and so you know I just think it's like like you both have mentioned, um it's good to pick up the phone and just make sure that next step is being realized and not just assume [1:41:34, 1:41:37]: that an email has been sent that it's being received. [1:41:37, 1:41:40]: So especially with a legal matter like this. So uh [1:41:40, 1:41:43]: Good point. Thank you for calling that out. Any other discussion? [1:41:44, 1:41:51]: I have a question. Um, can I get the details for the purchase and sale agreement or does it even matter because it's [1:41:51, 1:42:04]: Pretty much almost done. No, it's a good point. And I want to bring you in on it. So th thank you. Um what I'll do is schedule maybe a separate meeting with you, Samequa, to brief you on [1:42:05, 1:42:08]: You know, where we are and what transpired prior to that, just to bring you up to speed on it. [1:42:12, 1:42:14]: Any other discussion or questions? [1:42:18, 1:42:30]: All right. Um that I believe was the last item on our agenda. Is there anything else, uh general comments before we uh move to adjourn the meeting? [1:42:32, 1:42:34]: Uh we don't have to go in the executive session, right? So that's [1:42:35, 1:42:42]: Not unless we first I would like to thank you. This is the first time we've had an hour and a half meeting, and I would like but to keep on going down and down. [1:42:43, 1:42:56]: Well so we're starting up we're starting up the new year very well. So I hope we can keep that uh, you know, just keep our conversation, you know. I mean I I don't know wanna have a timer. [1:42:56, 1:42:57]: And have a [1:42:57, 1:43:00]: parliamentarian and we have a hourglass. [1:43:01, 1:43:15]: Right. Uh if we go over the time. So again, happy new year to everybody. We didn't mention that. So uh new year. Right, right. Hey, look, and I tell people I don't make resolution. I always say, what is your hope for 2021? [1:43:16, 1:43:18]: 'Cause hope without a plan will leave you hopeless. [1:43:19, 1:43:19]: So [1:43:21, 1:43:22]: Indeed. [1:43:22, 1:43:25]: All right. Um so I'll [1:43:25, 1:43:27]: Uh anyone want to make a motion to adjourn? [1:43:29, 1:43:31]: I move that we adjourn tonight's meeting. [1:43:32, 1:43:32]: Right. [1:43:33, 1:43:40]: And Ms. Richardson has seconded. And Mr. Schweigert, if you would mind calling the roll, we'll make sure we close in an orderly fashion. [1:43:43, 1:43:45]: Okay, uh Roger Custon. [1:43:45, 1:43:47]: I'll say yes to adjourn. [1:43:47, 1:43:48]: Okay, just to jerk. [1:43:49, 1:43:51]: Uh Arthur Christian. Yes. [1:43:51, 1:43:52]: Over Richardson. [1:43:52, 1:43:53]: Yes. [1:43:53, 1:43:54]: Actual Sears? [1:43:55, 1:43:56]: Yes. [1:43:56, 1:43:59]: Bob Swagert, yes. Sunni Kwa King? [1:43:59, 1:44:00]: Yes. [1:44:01, 1:44:02]: Realness. [1:44:02, 1:44:17]: All right, very good. I won't keep you any further with any boring remarks. I've made my remarks, so I want to thank you all. I'm very excited about this. Thank you, Madame. Thank you, Madame Mr. Christian. I wish you all well. I mean thank you, Mr. Rasta. Bye bye. [1:44:18, 1:44:19]: Good night. [1:44:19, 1:44:20]: Good night.
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    --- title: January 15 2021 Special Called Meeting date: 2021-01-15 source: 2021-01-15_January_15_2021_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:01]: Called a meeting to order. [0:00:02, 0:00:05]: I suppose it's called January twenty twenty one. [0:00:05, 0:00:20]: And uh and I'll do the invocation at this time. You don't mind bowing your heads. Lord, uh, thank you for bringing us together once again for another wonderful meeting, a special call meeting in which we're going to discuss and interview and select a key individual to our staff. [0:00:21, 0:00:37]: Be us always Lord we kind of look through the interview process and have a an outstanding um process in which uh we select uh someone to be a member of our team. Be us always Lord in your name. Amen. All right, so let's uh let's uh do the Pledge Allegiance. [0:00:41, 0:00:51]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which stands, one nation of God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:00:52, 0:00:54]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:01:00, 0:01:01]: Madam Clerk, roll call please. [0:01:05, 0:01:08]: Yes, I just got a message from um [0:01:08, 0:01:13]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander, who's has went to the other meeting as well and is trying to join. [0:01:14, 0:01:16]: Uh Mayor Ford. Present. [0:01:20, 0:01:24]: Again, I just mentioned Mary um Pro Tem Alexander, Councilwoman Barber. [0:01:25, 0:01:26]: Present. [0:01:30, 0:01:31]: Councilman Blount. [0:01:31, 0:01:32]: President. [0:01:37, 0:01:39]: Council Woman Gantt. [0:01:40, 0:01:41]: President. [0:01:45, 0:01:46]: And [0:01:47, 0:01:48]: Councilman Thomas. [0:01:49, 0:01:49]: Project. [0:01:52, 0:01:53]: Okay. [0:01:53, 0:01:54]: Therefore, do you have a quorum? [0:01:55, 0:02:00]: All right. Thank you. Appreciate that, uh, Ms. Holliday. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:02:03, 0:02:03]: Come on. [0:02:04, 0:02:04]: Sorry second. [0:02:06, 0:02:07]: Second. [0:02:07, 0:02:09]: No, thank you. All in favor, please indicate. [0:02:12, 0:02:25]: Uh oh thank you very much. Okay, we got it. I four four oh and uh I need a motion to go to executive session on um in reference to uh interviewing a candidate for executive to assistant uh [0:02:25, 0:02:26]: To the mayor of council. [0:02:27, 0:02:28]: Mayor Ford. [0:02:28, 0:02:31]: Yes, ma'am. I move that we go into executive session for personnel matters. [0:02:32, 0:02:33]: All right. So a second. [0:02:35, 0:02:35]: Second. [0:02:35, 0:02:37]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:02:40, 0:02:49]: All right. Okay. So we got four zero. Um now so in this aspect we're gonna go to second session and that's the other particular Pacific [0:02:49, 0:02:53]: um link that you sent us, right, Miss Holiday, do we need to get into now? [0:02:55, 0:02:56]: Is that correct? [0:02:56, 0:03:12]: That's correct. All right. So I'm going to say goodbye. I'm going to say goodbye to you all for right now for a brief moment. We have to go to another link to get in Zeke session. Okay. I want to ask one question before we go to the other link. Go ahead. Yeah. I sent an email out asking you all how you all are going to um [0:03:12, 0:03:18]: Handle the questions, or each one of you gonna ask a question of the candidate and do a round robin. [0:03:19, 0:03:21]: Until all the questions are answered. [0:03:23, 0:03:34]: We can we can attempt that. Yeah, I we can do that. Okay. I just wanted to make sure so everybody's on the same page. Okay. Good deal. All right. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. Well, I'll see y'all in a bit. We're gonna go into the second session now. [0:03:35, 0:03:36]: Okay. [0:03:50, 0:03:52]: [315.3, 318.4]: Webinars now we're now live again. [0:05:23, 0:05:26]: Okay, so we're waiting for Alexander and and uh Gantt. [0:05:27, 0:05:28]: Well we do have a quorum. [0:05:29, 0:05:30]: At this point. [0:05:32, 0:05:36]: Mayor, can I recommend we move forward? There's no action coming out of executive session. [0:05:37, 0:05:37]: All right. [0:05:38, 0:05:41]: I'll tell you what uh counter [0:05:41, 0:05:48]: You councilman okay he agrees. All right. All right. So council, we we need a motion to end executive session, please. [0:05:48, 0:05:55]: I'll move. Is there a second? Okay, second. Mr. Thomas seconds is okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:05:56, 0:06:02]: We're indicating okay. I need a motion to reconvene a special call meeting, please. So move. [0:06:02, 0:06:05]: So move Alexander. Who's the second? [0:06:05, 0:06:15]: Second, Mr. Okay, Mr. Blounts, a second. Okay, we're back in our special call meeting. There's no results or information to give to the public at this time. So I make I'd like to have a motion to adjourn our meeting, please. [0:06:16, 0:06:17]: Some [0:06:18, 0:06:21]: Uh uh again, does that go to Blount here for [0:06:22, 0:06:24]: Okay, Blount second. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:06:26, 0:06:32]: All right. Good deal. Have a good weekend, ladies and gentlemen. Watch a lot of football. See you soon. All right. Good night. Good night.
  • 2021-01-11 · City Council · Transcript · City Council Meeting Via Zoom

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    --- title: January 11 2021 City Council Meeting Via Zoom date: 2021-01-11 source: 2021-01-11_January_11_2021_City_Council_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:02]: I'll and I'll try to find out what the problem is. [0:00:05, 0:00:05]: All right. [0:00:06, 0:00:12]: Mayor Ford, Mayor Ford, this is Randy Knights and I've been uh com IT just communicated with me. [0:00:13, 0:00:20]: to see if we could pause for just a second until he addresses these issues. Apparently there there's some issues he's trying to address. [0:00:20, 0:00:25]: to make sure that um uh citizens who are trying to get in can get in. So if it's the [0:00:25, 0:00:27]: Pleasure of the council, if we could just hold for a moment. [0:00:28, 0:00:30]: He can I think he can address these issues. [0:00:30, 0:00:32]: All right. So bit, we'll hold. [0:00:35, 0:00:36]: All right. [0:00:36, 0:00:37]: Okay. [0:00:39, 0:00:45]: Mayor Ford? Yes, sir. Okay. I just had him on the phone. He said he [0:00:46, 0:00:48]: I told him to let the clerk know that he is in. [0:00:50, 0:00:51]: Okay. [0:00:52, 0:00:54]: Um I'll thank you for that. [0:00:55, 0:01:01]: I just received something from the PIO that that things seem to be working from that end now as well. So [0:01:01, 0:01:03]: Let me um [0:01:03, 0:01:05]: I'll communicate with the IT person. [0:01:06, 0:01:06]: All right. [0:01:17, 0:01:18]: Mm-hmm. [0:01:21, 0:01:25]: What could one of the I'm going to [0:01:44, 0:01:48]: It's not every day that it's not every day that I get to be in Councilman Alexander's kitchen. [0:01:48, 0:01:52]: Yeah, how about that, man? Okay, thanks. [0:01:53, 0:01:56]: Okay, Mr. Nighting, what's IT got to say here? We're good? [0:01:56, 0:02:06]: He's actually trying to get he said he was trying to get in touch with hold on Okay. Hold hold on one second. I think he needed to get in touch with Vanessa. Can you hear me, Vanessa? [0:02:08, 0:02:11]: He said two he said two minutes or less. Yes, I'm here. [0:02:11, 0:02:18]: Okay. All right. Thank Kyle was trying to communicate with you. He just sent me a message, said two minutes or less to get the Facebook part streaming live. [0:02:19, 0:02:31]: Zoom is fine. We're in this platform, we're fine. Just trying to make sure the Facebook Live is is in place. Okay. Mayor Ford. Yes, sir. I I have past advance uh on my phone. [0:02:32, 0:02:34]: Um he said that he can [0:02:34, 0:02:36]: He can see us. [0:02:37, 0:02:38]: Um [0:02:38, 0:02:42]: He is not on what what what's the problem you you having pastor? [0:02:43, 0:02:45]: Well the link that you guys sent me that allows [0:02:50, 0:02:51]: I actually everyone just on there. [0:02:53, 0:02:54]: [175.0, 175.4]: Okay. [0:02:56, 0:03:00]: Pastor Van says that he's able to see each and every one of us. [0:03:00, 0:03:05]: That we cannot see him and he's not allowed to um respond. [0:03:06, 0:03:11]: I don't see him as a panelist. I think that may be what the problem is. He's not as listed as a panelist. [0:03:12, 0:03:16]: Well, I think Mrs. Holliday can answer that. I think she sent him the invitation. [0:03:18, 0:03:20]: Yeah, that's the invitation he received. He [0:03:22, 0:03:28]: Unless he logged in on the Yeah, he said he was signed in, but uh I I'm looking at the uh panelists, I don't see his name. [0:03:31, 0:03:34]: He may have come in through the public site instead of the panelist email. [0:03:35, 0:03:38]: Uh uh past advance. [0:03:38, 0:03:41]: I I'm going I'm going back to mute so I can communicate with him. [0:03:41, 0:03:42]: Okay. [0:03:56, 0:03:59]: I just have a a slow connection, so I apologize. [0:04:00, 0:04:01]: Yeah. [0:04:01, 0:04:02]: Alrighty. [0:04:03, 0:04:07]: By the way, Judge, this is the internet sweet spot. [0:04:09, 0:04:10]: You see [0:04:10, 0:04:24]: This is the internet sweet spot where you know we don't have any interruptions and everything is good. This is the sweet spot in the house. I've locked my children upstairs so that they're not interrupting us. [0:04:24, 0:04:25]: They will still annoy me. [0:04:32, 0:04:34]: Yeah, very happy. [0:04:35, 0:04:37]: And I'm gonna put that. [0:04:38, 0:04:40]: How does that mean? [0:04:40, 0:04:44]: I mean what we do. [0:04:46, 0:04:49]: So I don't think we could be live on Facebook and the website. [0:04:52, 0:04:53]: Live enough. [0:04:57, 0:04:59]: So how are we gonna bootmark a meeting? [0:05:00, 0:05:02]: Okay. [0:05:10, 0:05:10]: That's the same. [0:05:12, 0:05:15]: So [0:05:18, 0:05:20]: I still have a loading screen. [0:05:33, 0:05:34]: All right, um [0:05:36, 0:05:44]: Well obviously it looks like we're not going to be on the on uh Facebook Live, I expose. We're recording, but not on Facebook Live. Is that where we stand now? [0:05:45, 0:05:47]: No, that's what he's doing now. [0:05:54, 0:05:55]: What's your what's your name? [0:05:59, 0:05:59]: Yeah, that's uh [0:06:00, 0:06:02]: It doesn't I don't see city of starvings. [0:06:02, 0:06:03]: Oh, here it is. [0:06:07, 0:06:08]: How are you doing pass the man? [0:06:09, 0:06:12]: Alrighty, you guys can see me now? We can see you, sir. [0:06:13, 0:06:16]: Looking sharp, brother. [0:06:16, 0:06:18]: Looking sharp. [0:06:21, 0:06:22]: Good to see you everyone. [0:06:23, 0:06:23]: So right. [0:06:31, 0:06:32]: All right. [0:06:41, 0:06:45]: Well ladies and gentlemen, I'll tell you what, we're recording, we're on a Facebook Live. [0:06:46, 0:07:05]: And um I would hope that we get this going soon. Uh but it's roughly six fifteen. And if you don't mind, I'd like to at least let us get going on the meeting and in this aspect. So anyway, well we're we took the roll call. Everybody's present. We got ca uh Pastor Vance on. Good to see you, sir. Happy New Year to you. [0:07:06, 0:07:07]: Thank you, thank you. [0:07:07, 0:07:10]: So what I need now is a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:07:11, 0:07:11]: Mayor. [0:07:12, 0:07:12]: Yes, sir. [0:07:13, 0:07:15]: I'd like to make a motion to move [0:07:16, 0:07:19]: The appointment of the city attorney to the last item [0:07:19, 0:07:20]: Uh on the list. [0:07:24, 0:07:26]: A circuit. Okay. [0:07:32, 0:07:40]: So um all right. You wanna do that? It's been my motion made in seconds. Uh thank you. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:07:42, 0:07:44]: All in favor of the motion. All opposed. [0:07:47, 0:07:48]: I'll sustain. [0:07:51, 0:07:55]: Okay, so Hold on Mayor, I can't hold on a second here. [0:08:01, 0:08:01]: Mayor. [0:08:02, 0:08:03]: Sir, yes, ma'am. [0:08:03, 0:08:10]: I oppose because I don't know why we're moving the city attorney to the last appointment. That's the only reason I oppose. No one's spoken to me about it. [0:08:11, 0:08:13]: Okay. Well uh all right. [0:08:14, 0:08:16]: Can you hear me, Mayor? I hear you. Yes, go ahead. [0:08:17, 0:08:21]: I'm okay with m moving it. I mean uh that's fine with me. [0:08:21, 0:08:21]: All right. [0:08:22, 0:08:31]: Now now is there a recommendation to move the the executive session to be before we get to the appointments or or uh keep the executive session at the end of the meeting? [0:08:31, 0:08:32]: Mary, I would [0:08:33, 0:08:36]: But we'll we'll we'll leave uh [0:08:36, 0:08:37]: We'll leave that uh [0:08:38, 0:08:40]: Uh, before the executive session. [0:08:41, 0:08:46]: What do you what I don't understand? What do you mean say again, please? We're gonna make it the last item. We're gonna make it the last item. [0:08:46, 0:08:47]: They [0:08:47, 0:08:53]: Okay. I I I got the question you asked and I'm motioning that we that we do all executive uh do all appointments after executive session. [0:08:54, 0:08:56]: After a zago session. Yes. [0:08:56, 0:08:57]: All right, so we get [0:08:58, 0:09:06]: Oh so we have two motions. First motion is to reverse item number five and six. Was there a second on that motion? [0:09:07, 0:09:10]: That's a good point. Thank you for that. Was there a second? [0:09:10, 0:09:15]: Yeah. Okay, I'm second. Okay, there you go. Second. All in favor to motion, please indicate. [0:09:18, 0:09:19]: For okay, all post. [0:09:20, 0:09:22]: Four one. All right now. [0:09:22, 0:09:23]: Mr. Blount, you made another motion, sir. [0:09:24, 0:09:28]: Yeah, I motion that we move all appointments uh to uh after executive session. [0:09:29, 0:09:31]: All right. Is there a second on that motion? [0:09:33, 0:09:34]: A second. [0:09:34, 0:09:37]: Okay. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:09:40, 0:09:41]: Opposed? [0:09:44, 0:09:50]: Motion fails. Two, three. Okay. So now what we have is the ceremonial uh [0:09:51, 0:10:01]: part of our meeting this evening. And I have a couple of different proclamations here, all surrounding our ancestral home, the whole King family and the School of Star Brisbane ancestral home. [0:10:02, 0:10:06]: Proclamation Martin Luther King Senior, affectionately known as Daddy King. [0:10:07, 0:10:13]: Whereas Martin Luther King Sr. was born Michael King on December nineteenth, eighteen ninety-nine. [0:10:13, 0:10:15]: In Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:10:15, 0:10:18]: And he's the eldest son of James and Delil Delilah King. [0:10:19, 0:10:21]: And whereas Martin Luther King Senior, affectionately known as Daddy King, [0:10:22, 0:10:25]: is the father and namesake of civil rights leader Martin Luther King Junior. [0:10:26, 0:10:28]: And whereas Martin Luther King Senior [0:10:29, 0:10:32]: Was a member of Floyd Chapel Baptist Church in Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:10:32, 0:10:35]: Where he preached his first sermon at age sixteen. [0:10:36, 0:10:37]: And whereas Martin Luther King Senior [0:10:38, 0:10:41]: gradually developed an interest in teaching and grew to respect. [0:10:42, 0:10:53]: the few black preachers who are willing to speak out against racial injustices despite the risk of violent white retaliation and after being inspired by these ministers decide to become a preacher. [0:10:54, 0:11:07]: And whereas in 1926, King Sr. started his ministerial degree at Morehouse School of Religion on Thanksgiving Day in 1926. After eight years of courtship, he married Alberta and Ebenezer Church. [0:11:08, 0:11:25]: The couple had three children, two children, daughter Willie Christine King, Martin Luther King Jr., born originally as Michael King Jr., and second son Alfred Daniel Williams King. And whereas King Sr. became leader of the Ebenezer Baptist Church in March 1931. [0:11:26, 0:11:31]: will remain the pastor for four decades while becoming a widely respected leader in a local church. [0:11:32, 0:11:45]: and wielding great influence in the black community and earning some degree of respect with the white community. And whereas in 1934, King Senior changed his name and that of his eldest son from Michael King to Martin Luther King. [0:11:45, 0:11:48]: After a period of gradual transition on his own part. [0:11:48, 0:11:50]: He was inspired during the trip to Germany. [0:11:51, 0:11:59]: for that year's meeting of the Baptist World Alliance and BWA by visiting sites associated with Reformation leader Martin Luther. [0:11:59, 0:12:02]: And whereas King Senior became a leader of the civil rights movement. [0:12:02, 0:12:22]: As a head of the NAACP chapter in Atlanta and the civic and political league, King Singer encouraged his son to become active in the movement and the rest of his history. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, mayor of the uh Stockbridge, Georgia, along with Council members Ellen Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Nikisha Gantt and Afonso Thomas, do hereby proclaim. [0:12:22, 0:12:31]: December 19, 2020 is Martin Luther King Senior Day in the great city of Stomp Ridge, Jordan, signed on the 19th of uh December, 2020. [0:12:33, 0:12:39]: Outstanding. Next proclamation in honor uh the honorable Stobur City Council. [0:12:39, 0:12:41]: Whereas Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Junior [0:12:42, 0:12:44]: Was born January fifteenth, nineteen twenty nine. [0:12:45, 0:12:50]: at his family home in Atlanta, Georgia, to Martin Luther King Senior and Alberta Williams King. [0:12:50, 0:12:52]: native of our great city of Stockbridge. [0:12:53, 0:12:58]: And whereas Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. devoted his life to the advancement of civil rights and public service. [0:12:58, 0:13:01]: Believing in a nation of freedom and justice for all. [0:13:01, 0:13:04]: And challenge all citizens to build a more perfect union. [0:13:05, 0:13:07]: And to live up to the purpose of pat and the potential of America. [0:13:08, 0:13:14]: Whereas legislation creating a federal holiday marking the birthday of Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. [0:13:14, 0:13:17]: was signed into law in nineteen six excuse me nineteen eighty three. [0:13:18, 0:13:23]: And whereas the state of Georgia honors Dr. King legacy each year on the third Monday in January. [0:13:24, 0:13:33]: Whereas in nineteen ninety-four, Congress initiated the King Day of Service, a nationwide effort to transform the federal holiday honoring honoring Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. [0:13:33, 0:13:35]: Into a day of community service. [0:13:35, 0:13:42]: And whereas Dr. King accomplished accomplishments as a clergyman, Noble Peace Prize Lotorate. [0:13:42, 0:13:47]: Author and advocate for securing the enact enactment of the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act. [0:13:48, 0:13:49]: Nighting sixty five. [0:13:49, 0:13:53]: excuse me, nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act and the nineteen sixty five voting rights act. [0:13:54, 0:13:57]: And the nineteen sixty eight Fair Housing Act emphasized the principles of equality. [0:13:57, 0:14:00]: А the cornerstone of our democracy. [0:14:00, 0:14:05]: And whereas Dr. King recognized that everybody can be great because everybody can serve. [0:14:06, 0:14:11]: And during his lifetime, encouraged all Americans to serve their neighbors and their communities. [0:14:11, 0:14:20]: And whereas thousands of Americans use Martin Luther King uh day as a day on, not a day off by spending it performing community service. [0:14:20, 0:14:25]: And whereas the the King Day of Service falls, which falls on January eighteenth this year. [0:14:26, 0:14:46]: Uh is an opportune time for the people of Stockbridge to recognize Dr. King's teachings on advancing quality and opportunity for all uh contributing their own time and talents in a day of service. And now now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, vested in me as a mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of Councilmembers Elton Alexander. [0:14:46, 0:14:47]: [888.3, 893.2]: Nikesi Gantt and the Fonzo Thomas do hereby recognize, excuse me, do hereby encourage [0:14:53, 0:15:04]: each citizen to take part in in service that will benefit the Stockbridge and neighborhoods and provide a a a fitting memorial to the life of Martin Luther King Jr. and witness uh [0:15:04, 0:15:20]: Whereof I have here unto set my hand on the 11th day of January 2021 and have caused the fiscal seal of the Great Seal um stop bridge and fixed two hereof, and I signed this along with with Vanessa Holiday as well. [0:15:20, 0:15:24]: Congratulations, outstanding. And uh yes, Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [0:15:25, 0:15:30]: Uh thank you, Mayor. Um I wanna also uh thank you, Mayor, for honoring [0:15:31, 0:15:35]: Uh the request to bring both of these uh proclamations [0:15:35, 0:15:37]: To the council meeting, um [0:15:37, 0:15:41]: We know that annually we always recognize. [0:15:41, 0:15:44]: Uh Dr. King Junior's birthday. [0:15:45, 0:15:48]: But uh the request was to also retroactively [0:15:48, 0:15:53]: uh recognized daddy king which his birthday was december the nineteenth. [0:15:53, 0:15:54]: Um [0:15:55, 0:15:57]: And and and and we know that [0:15:57, 0:16:01]: Uh the reason I want to emphasize King Senior. [0:16:01, 0:16:05]: Because we know uh without senior that wouldn't be a junior. But let me just mention [0:16:06, 0:16:14]: That not only was Daddy King, and I know this is where Flora Chapel comes in, uh, Pastor Vance, and then thank you for being here as well. [0:16:14, 0:16:17]: But where King Senior comes into play here is that [0:16:18, 0:16:30]: He was not only um educated and mentored by the elders there at Floyd Chapel, but before Daddy King, uh James Weldon Johnson. [0:16:30, 0:16:33]: Who wrote uh lift their voice and sing. [0:16:33, 0:16:36]: uh was here in Stockbridge as well. [0:16:36, 0:16:39]: Ен хі лай а фаунда. [0:16:39, 0:16:59]: um at the churches and in the community uh of his advocacy for civil rights. And no doubt this is where the elders and Daddy King sort of got that from. And I'm sure Daddy King sort of passed that on to Junior. [0:16:59, 0:17:08]: And as they say, uh the rest is history. But I do want to thank uh Pastor Vance. You know, he is newly appointed here at Florida Chapel. [0:17:08, 0:17:10]: But we just want to thank him and Flora Chapel. [0:17:11, 0:17:13]: For the impact that they've had. [0:17:13, 0:17:26]: uh here in the city of stockbridge. And we sort of just appreciate uh Flora Chapel for being here in the city of Stockbridge and Pastor Vance and I we're working together on many projects and and in closing let me just say that [0:17:27, 0:17:40]: Um Pastor Vance has agreed to keynote the 10th annual African American Heritage Celebration Celebration, which is uh February the 6th. [0:17:40, 0:17:46]: And I just want to take this opportunity to thank him as well as uh members of uh Floyd Chapel. [0:17:46, 0:17:50]: It's my understanding that that they are viewing this meeting tonight. [0:17:50, 0:17:52]: So uh again, uh thank you, Pastor Vance. [0:17:53, 0:17:54]: No problem. [0:17:55, 0:18:00]: No, pass advance. Go ahead, please. I was gonna say go comments without a doubt. I'm sorry, go ahead. [0:18:00, 0:18:20]: Uh first and foremost, I'd just like to say thank you all just for the support uh here in the city of the city of Stockbridge, just uh the moral support and just I'm excited just for the future, you know, the innovation and the the the city growing at a rapid rate and just to be planted in a in a historic [0:18:20, 0:18:40]: Church, such as uh Floyd Chapel Baptist Church, with myself being a Morehouse School of Religion uh alumni as well, who ironically won the Martin Luther King Senior Award. And uh by the providence of God, I'm I'm leading this historic church. But I'm not just called to the church, I'm called to make the [0:18:40, 0:18:51]: the city of Stockbridge better as well. And I look forward to working with each and every one of you all to just serve the community as Daddy King would have and just like Martin Luther King uh Junior. [0:18:52, 0:19:03]: Outstanding, appreciate it. Outstanding. We welcome you, sir. And what I know we'll we'll be great together. The entire council will make will make this work. Outstanding. Appreciate it. And please stay as long, stay as long as you like tonight. Okay. [0:19:04, 0:19:15]: No problem. Okay, great. Uh what's next? Uh downtown development authority service awards. And uh I want to recognize uh one, two, three, four, five members of the DDA. [0:19:15, 0:19:18]: And it's presented to Calvin Gleason. [0:19:18, 0:19:22]: And appreciation of your service uh services and dedication as a board member. [0:19:23, 0:19:25]: and chairman of the downtown November Authority. [0:19:25, 0:19:27]: Two thousand eighteen to two thousand twenty. [0:19:28, 0:19:30]: Also I need a uh Anita Lee. [0:19:30, 0:19:37]: And appreciation of your services and dedication as a board member of the downtown November Authority 2016 to 2020. [0:19:38, 0:19:42]: Mr. Rodney Horns in appreciation of your services and dedication as a board member. [0:19:42, 0:19:47]: The downtown authority two thousand sixteen two to two thousand twenty as well. [0:19:47, 0:19:49]: And uh [0:19:49, 0:19:56]: And also uh Ms. Renee Shaw may not be present right now and appreciate appreciation of your services and dedication as a board member. [0:19:56, 0:20:00]: And chairwoman of downtown Delema Authority two thousand fifteen to two thousand twenty. [0:20:01, 0:20:10]: All right. So if there are several uh if these individuals are present, I don't know if you any of Rodney or uh Miss Lee, if you want any comments before uh before I move on in the meeting at all. [0:20:12, 0:20:16]: Absolutely. Um Miss Lee, go ahead. [0:20:17, 0:20:19]: Uh for appointing me during that [0:20:19, 0:20:24]: Uh, during that time I appreci I learned so, so much about [0:20:24, 0:20:43]: uh our wonderful city of stockbridge and um the wonderful things that uh the dda is able to do. I do uh hope and appreciate that the new DDA or the new members um will hopefully learn as much as I did and help to move [0:20:43, 0:20:45]: uh the city of Stockridge forward. [0:20:46, 0:20:57]: Um, I do intend to continue to lend my services to the city at any time. I do have ideas um that I do intend to share with the DDA. [0:20:57, 0:21:08]: And uh I hopefully um the council uh and the city will find another space for me to serve and I will continue to put my name in the hat. [0:21:09, 0:21:14]: So thank you so much and happy New Year to all of you. It was great seeing all of you. [0:21:14, 0:21:17]: Thank you. Great to see you too. Mr. Horns, please. [0:21:17, 0:21:18]: For New Year. [0:21:18, 0:21:20]: Yes, how are y'all doing? [0:21:20, 0:21:28]: Mayor and Council, I want to say thank you guys for appointing me to the board. I learned a lot. I enjoyed it, my four years on the board. [0:21:28, 0:21:29]: Uh [0:21:30, 0:21:36]: Thinking about maybe trying to come back for some other positions later, other performance. I'm not sure, not currently, but [0:21:36, 0:21:37]: In the near future. [0:21:37, 0:21:40]: And I just say happy new year to everybody and thank you guys again. [0:21:41, 0:21:42]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. [0:21:43, 0:21:57]: Once again, the two of you can stay as long as you like. All right. Move on. Okay. Adoption of the minutes for the following meetings, November 9th, a council meeting and the November 24th council work session. I need a motion to approve those minutes, please. [0:22:01, 0:22:03]: A motion to approve. Okay, is there a second? [0:22:05, 0:22:08]: Okay. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:22:10, 0:22:12]: Okay, so now thank you very much. [0:22:13, 0:22:15]: Madam Madam Clerk. [0:22:15, 0:22:16]: Yes, ma'am. [0:22:17, 0:22:19]: I was gonna ask you about any public comments. [0:22:25, 0:22:27]: Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? [0:22:29, 0:22:34]: There are no I was not able to hear who made the motion. I'm sorry. [0:22:34, 0:22:39]: I was not able to hear. I think that was animated motion. Miss Barber second the motion. [0:22:40, 0:22:40]: It was unanimous. [0:22:41, 0:22:52]: Councilman Alexander. Yes, and then Councilman Barber. Thank you. And Mayor, no, there are no public comments. Okay. Then we're going to new business. And the new business is an appointment of our municipal [0:22:53, 0:22:55]: Judge, Mr. Matt McCord. [0:22:56, 0:23:08]: Uh oh before I read the oath of office, I guess I need to make sure we have a motion to set Matt McCord as our judge, I suppose. I need a motion to uh for Matt McCord, Judge McCord to be yes, sir. Go ahead, Mr. Blount. [0:23:08, 0:23:10]: No, so move. So move, is there a second? [0:23:11, 0:23:13]: I second. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:23:15, 0:23:17]: Fantastic. Miss McCord. [0:23:17, 0:23:31]: Okay, I have it. I have the the the actual oath of office here. So if you can raise your right hand and I'll raise mine as well. And I'll tell you do this in small chunks here. So I and state your name, please. I'm Matthew McCord. [0:23:31, 0:23:33]: Solemnly swear and affirm. [0:23:33, 0:23:35]: The oblig and a fern. [0:23:35, 0:23:37]: That I will faithfully perform. [0:23:37, 0:23:47]: I will faithfully perform. The duties of municipal court judge. The duties of municipal court judge. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will. [0:23:48, 0:24:01]: And that I will to the best of my ability. The best of my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend. The theater there the excuse me, the charter thereof. The charter thereof. As well as the constitution. [0:24:01, 0:24:05]: As well as the constitution and the laws of the state of Georgia. [0:24:05, 0:24:15]: the laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America and the United States of America. I further affirm. I further affirm upon assumption of this office. [0:24:15, 0:24:17]: Upon assumption of this office. [0:24:18, 0:24:21]: Okay, one second, it got small on me. There we go. [0:24:22, 0:24:24]: Uh I do not hold. [0:24:25, 0:24:41]: I do not hold. Any unaccounted for public money? Any unaccounted for public money. Due and payable to the state? Due and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state? Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. City of Stockbridge. [0:24:41, 0:24:44]: Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. [0:24:45, 0:24:46]: Nor do I hold [0:24:46, 0:24:51]: Nor do I hold any other office of trust? Any other office of trust. [0:24:52, 0:25:03]: Of the government of the United States, of the government of the United States, of this state, of this state, or any foreign state, or any foreign state, as prescribed by [0:25:04, 0:25:08]: The laws of the state of Georgia. As prescribed by the laws of the state of Georgia. [0:25:08, 0:25:19]: I am I solemnly affirm I solemnly affirm that I am fully qualified I am fully qualified under the constitution and the laws under the constitution and the laws [0:25:19, 0:25:20]: Okay, others. [0:25:21, 0:25:22]: One second of the state. [0:25:22, 0:25:42]: Of the state. To hold the office of municipal court judge. To hold the office of municipal court judge. I will perform the duties. I will perform the duties. Of my office. Of my office. In the best interest. In the best interest. Of the city of Stockbridge. City of Stockbridge. To the best of my ability. Best of my ability. [0:25:42, 0:25:53]: Without fear, without fear, favor, favor, affection, affection, reward or expectation thereof, reward or expectation thereof. [0:25:53, 0:25:55]: On the eleventh day of January twenty twenty one. [0:25:56, 0:25:59]: This is the eleventh day of January, twenty twenty one, so help me God. [0:25:59, 0:26:01]: Congratulations, sir. Appreciate it. [0:26:01, 0:26:03]: Thank you, Mr. Meyer. Outstanding. [0:26:03, 0:26:04]: Outstanding. [0:26:05, 0:26:08]: Okay. And uh where are we? [0:26:12, 0:26:15]: And for um for our solicitor. [0:26:15, 0:26:21]: Ms. Judy Kurt. Okay. Uh I need a motion to accept Miss Kurt and her solicitor's position, please. [0:26:22, 0:26:23]: Don't move. [0:26:24, 0:26:27]: Okay. All favor please indicate. [0:26:28, 0:26:34]: Fantastic. All right, Miss Curt. I'm gonna do the same thing. I'll try to take the small chunks and I'm looking at a small screen. Okay, so bear with me. [0:26:35, 0:26:36]: I state your name. [0:26:36, 0:26:37]: Hi Julie Kurt. [0:26:38, 0:26:40]: Solemnly swear and affirm. [0:26:40, 0:26:44]: Solemnly swear and affirm. And I will faithfully perform the duties. [0:26:44, 0:26:48]: That I will faithfully perform the duties. [0:26:48, 0:26:52]: Of the municipal court solicitor. [0:26:52, 0:26:55]: For the city of Stockbridge. And that I will. [0:26:55, 0:27:01]: And that I will To the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Report and defend the charter thereof. [0:27:02, 0:27:05]: Support and defend the charter thereof. As well as the constitution. [0:27:05, 0:27:08]: As well as the constitution на лоза дет джорджа. [0:27:08, 0:27:11]: And the laws of the state of Georgia? And the United States of America. [0:27:12, 0:27:15]: In the United States of America, I further affirm that. [0:27:15, 0:27:17]: I further affirm that. [0:27:17, 0:27:19]: Upon assumption of this office. [0:27:19, 0:27:23]: Upon assumption of this office. I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. [0:27:23, 0:27:26]: I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. [0:27:27, 0:27:28]: due and payable to the state. [0:27:29, 0:27:33]: Doing payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. [0:27:33, 0:27:42]: any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. City of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold [0:27:43, 0:27:46]: Nor do I hold any other office of trust? [0:27:46, 0:27:50]: Any other office of trust? Of the government of government of the United States? [0:27:50, 0:27:53]: Of the government of the United States? Of this state? [0:27:54, 0:27:56]: Of this state. [0:27:56, 0:28:00]: Or any foreign state. As prescribed by the laws of the state of Georgia. [0:28:00, 0:28:03]: It's described by the laws of the state of Georgia. [0:28:03, 0:28:04]: I solemnly affirm. [0:28:05, 0:28:08]: I solemnly affirm that I'm fully qualified. [0:28:08, 0:28:19]: That I'm fully qualified. Under the constitution and the laws? Under the constitution and the laws. Of this state. Of this state. To hold the office of municipal court solicitor. [0:28:19, 0:28:36]: To hold the office of municipal court solicitor. I will perform the duties. I will perform the duties of my off of my office. Of my office. In the best interest of the city of Stockbridge. In the best interest of the city of Stockbridge. To the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. [0:28:36, 0:28:38]: Without fear? Favor. [0:28:39, 0:28:40]: Favor. Affection. [0:28:41, 0:28:43]: Affection thereof. [0:28:44, 0:28:48]: Order expectation thereof? Yes, on the eleventh day of January twenty twenty one. [0:28:48, 0:29:07]: This on the 11th day of January 2021. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Fantastic. Great. Now, uh, Ms. Kurtz, since you're still unmuted, I'd like to give you an opportunity to address uh the council, the audience, anybody listening, just if you have any words of wisdom, if you want to say anything at all. [0:29:07, 0:29:25]: Uh just briefly, just nice to see all of you all. I don't believe I've had an opportunity to meet you before. Um, I'm always available by email if you wish to reach out to me with any questions. I know the clerk can forward my contact information for anybody. If you have any questions about any of our prosecutorial [0:29:25, 0:29:30]: uh policies or any matter pending before the court. Uh especially in these days I [0:29:31, 0:29:36]: Especially try to be available to help us avoid people having to come into the courthouse during this time. [0:29:36, 0:29:39]: Look forward to meeting you all when in person when this is over. [0:29:39, 0:29:41]: Outstanding. Appreciate it. Great. [0:29:42, 0:29:45]: Judge McCord, sir. Any c uh comments you'd like to have at this time? [0:29:46, 0:30:03]: I welcome uh uh anybody that wants to come to the court to see how we do things to please come, please be a part of what we're doing. Uh obviously we're right now under a judicial emergency order from the Chief Justice and then I've [0:30:04, 0:30:23]: drafted an order that mirrors that so the courthouse is closed until things get better and safer. But when we get there, you are absolutely welcome to come be a part of what we do and to see how courts run. And please don't ever hesitate to get in touch with me. If you have a question or you need anything, uh I make myself available to to all of you and to the citizens of Stockbridge uh twenty four hours a day. [0:30:24, 0:30:26]: Okay. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. Outstanding. [0:30:26, 0:30:34]: And more, of course, you're welcome to stay as long as you like as well. Okay, congratulating. Thanks. I happy new year to you. Look forward to seeing you in person again someday, soon. [0:30:34, 0:30:35]: Okay, very soon. [0:30:36, 0:30:45]: All right, on that note, uh we're gonna move down to the appointment of the Mayor Pro Tem. Um I guess uh in sense Mr. Alexander, do you have something I believe you s you wanted to say, sir? [0:30:47, 0:30:50]: I do, Mayor. I wanna I want to thank you so much. Uh [0:30:51, 0:30:52]: For turning to me for this particular [0:30:53, 0:30:54]: uh nomination. [0:30:55, 0:30:57]: Well uh the first thing I wanna say is [0:30:57, 0:31:04]: You know, there we've had outstanding Mayor Pro Times for the city of Stockbridge, uh us including yourself, Mayor. [0:31:04, 0:31:09]: Well thank you. You did a really outstanding job. Uh you had to wear two hats. [0:31:09, 0:31:22]: You at one point were probably the most powerful mayor in the city's uh history of the city of Stockbridge because you wore the same hat. You were a mayor pro tem, acting as mayor in in a in a great capacity. [0:31:22, 0:31:23]: Leading the city through [0:31:24, 0:31:25]: A troubling time. [0:31:25, 0:31:29]: So uh with dis with distinguished honor you serve the city. [0:31:30, 0:31:44]: So that that that is magnificent. That's marvelous. So thank you for your service. Even before stepping into that chair, you had already prepared yourself to honor uh the citizens of this community uh from the council. [0:31:44, 0:31:47]: And uh I'd like to point to Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:31:48, 0:31:55]: Uh Mayor Tim Thomas has done an amazing job. He served in this role. He is a role model for this particular [0:31:56, 0:31:57]: Um position. [0:31:58, 0:32:07]: uh he leads and what he does is I I admire so much what he does when he talks about uh history in the city of Stockbridge. [0:32:07, 0:32:10]: History should have his name on it in this citary because [0:32:10, 0:32:15]: He led the charge to get uh Daddy King honored in the city. [0:32:15, 0:32:15]: So the [0:32:15, 0:32:17]: It would never be forgotten. [0:32:17, 0:32:20]: His name will go down in the history books. [0:32:20, 0:32:21]: For doing so. [0:32:21, 0:32:22]: And by doing so [0:32:23, 0:32:27]: He modeled the ro the role model of this particular position for the city. [0:32:27, 0:32:28]: And making sure [0:32:29, 0:32:30]: That um the entire that [0:32:30, 0:32:31]: The council [0:32:32, 0:32:35]: Uh represent it the citizens out there, he's always out there. [0:32:35, 0:32:37]: Um making himself available. [0:32:38, 0:32:39]: Through Don't Trash Stock Fridge. [0:32:40, 0:32:41]: And through [0:32:41, 0:32:43]: M m many programs that he works on. [0:32:44, 0:32:47]: The outstanding African American history month. [0:32:47, 0:32:49]: celebration that he [0:32:49, 0:32:52]: uh holds to the city. It's probably the biggest event that we hold. [0:32:52, 0:33:06]: uh here in the city because it's standing room only uh at Merrill Mandas Conference Center uh pre COVID and hopefully post COVID uh we'll continue that uh tradition. Um we we've had every member of this council [0:33:06, 0:33:09]: I serve uh as mayor Pro Tem. [0:33:10, 0:33:23]: uh as well. Uh Councilwoman Gantt served uh as Mayor Pro Tem. She did an outstanding job uh in that role in doing and fulfilling her duties uh during that time. Uh she uh has her [0:33:23, 0:33:42]: uh small business uh uh meet up and uh with the with the community, engaging the community, uh doing what's necessary to make sure that uh she stays connected. Uh Councilman Blount uh served in the role uh as mayor pro tem for the city. He did an outstanding job. [0:33:43, 0:34:03]: He really did uh during that time. Uh and he took the back to school event uh to the next level. He truly did because uh, you know, um Mayor Pro Tem Thomas had got it started and then they kind of collaborated together showing what you can do, and now it's a city event, but it would never go down because at the [0:34:03, 0:34:12]: same time you did what was necessary to make it one of the biggest events uh in the city. And we know we're gonna get back to that uh post-COVID. I remember [0:34:13, 0:34:19]: You and I know you probably won't l you running around City Hall collecting uh book bags. [0:34:20, 0:34:31]: and making it just uh, you know, do it and running all over the city trying to grab book bags like we do for all particular events that we do. And that's what uh Amer Pro Tem should do. [0:34:32, 0:34:34]: Uh in the city to make sure. [0:34:34, 0:34:37]: That everything uh in the community is taken care of. [0:34:38, 0:34:40]: Every person sitting up here [0:34:40, 0:34:45]: Uh, you know, uh some point she gets to serve as the mayor pro temp. [0:34:45, 0:34:51]: Oh no, Councilwoman Barber just joined uh the group at this particular so but her time will come. [0:34:51, 0:34:56]: as well. You know, as I talk to you about this particular event and I'm gonna conclude very soon. [0:34:57, 0:35:00]: So I won't take up too much time. Is it just simply say [0:35:00, 0:35:02]: Everybody deserves a chance to um [0:35:03, 0:35:05]: Serving this particular position. [0:35:05, 0:35:06]: And I would think that um [0:35:07, 0:35:09]: You know, going forward, even post tonight. [0:35:10, 0:35:11]: Uh what we would do is that we would [0:35:12, 0:35:14]: This is pretty uh pretty much a ceremonial position. [0:35:15, 0:35:17]: And what we would do is examine the policy. [0:35:18, 0:35:20]: To make sure that we rotate the position. [0:35:20, 0:35:23]: around so everybody, every member of the council [0:35:23, 0:35:26]: We get to serve uh as mayor pro tem. [0:35:26, 0:35:28]: Because this is a ceremonial position. [0:35:28, 0:35:30]: It should be politics free. [0:35:30, 0:35:33]: And every person should just it should matriculate down the line. [0:35:34, 0:35:35]: The person who served [0:35:35, 0:35:39]: Uh the last they should go back in line and then the person [0:35:39, 0:35:51]: uh next to them should step up and be allowed to serve. And I certainly will uh be proposing that uh as we move forward uh through this. I would ask that every member of this council [0:35:51, 0:35:54]: Щось да вивер колективний токе. [0:35:54, 0:35:56]: Uh, doing what we do to take the city to [0:35:57, 0:36:00]: the next level. I mean last year was an historic year. [0:36:00, 0:36:03]: Uh, in the city of Stockbridge in the mayor. [0:36:03, 0:36:06]: And the mayor pro ten will get a tremendous amount of credit. [0:36:06, 0:36:08]: for what was done enabling us to [0:36:09, 0:36:12]: uh provide the financing and for the amphitheater that will be opening. [0:36:13, 0:36:13]: D. [0:36:13, 0:36:16]: The Kerry Mahamberg Cultural Arts Center. [0:36:16, 0:36:18]: Now has financing in place it's [0:36:18, 0:36:20]: It's gonna work, it's gonna move forward. [0:36:20, 0:36:36]: my multi-use trails are in place, the things that we did will go down and it will stand the test of time. I ask and I say to each and every one of you that um you know the time comes and I think uh tonight it's my turn. [0:36:36, 0:36:46]: And I think that uh, you know, we s we honestly want to make sure that everybody's represented. I don't hold anything against anybody on this council to make to see [0:36:46, 0:36:51]: That uh what we're doing is appropriate and that we serve every single citizen in the community. [0:36:52, 0:36:54]: We might agree or we might disagree. [0:36:54, 0:37:02]: But in the meantime, what we do is we serve every citizen in the city of Stockbridge, and we know that we represent the council. [0:37:02, 0:37:22]: I pledge to each and every last one of you on this particular board, I will do my level best if uh nominated for this position to be able to move forward and to make sure that it is uh done appropriately and that we shine nothing but positive light on the city uh for the next uh 12 months. [0:37:22, 0:37:35]: And based on that recommendation, I would I'm going to nominate myself for the particular award of Mayor Pro 10 for the city of Stockbridge this year. And then I would conduct a policy. [0:37:35, 0:37:55]: request a policy change following that so that each person sitting on this council will get an opportunity to serve and it will not be a situation where anybody is skipped over or a situation where no one gets to serve. It'll be a ceremonial position that will be honored and held in high esteem in in the city. So I make the most [0:37:55, 0:38:03]: motion that uh for myself, Elton Alexander, to become mayor pro tip for the year of 2021. [0:38:04, 0:38:07]: First, I guess I I I guess in the sense of uh Mr. What [0:38:07, 0:38:10]: Okay, Miss Barber, you're second in that motion. Is that what you're waiver? [0:38:10, 0:38:18]: I I ma I just gotta ask the the attorney, can you can you self nominate yourself? I mean, can you do that? If you can do that, so be it. I just didn't no, I just gotta ask the question. [0:38:19, 0:38:21]: There there's no rule that prohibits it. [0:38:21, 0:38:41]: Okay. All right. And on that note, uh, Councilman Alison, I wanna let you know that it to me is is as a current mayor, it is not a strictly ceremonial thing. Something happens to me, you know what I mean? God forbid something happens to me and I can't function as a capacity, that Mayor Po Tem comes and and and functions as that mayor. As you indicated that I had both those responsibilities for eleven months in two thousand sixteen. But [0:38:41, 0:38:57]: But uh I look at it as more than just ceremonial. I just want to let you know that publicly. I think it's in that aspect. Okay. I certainly certainly understand, sir, and I stand to correct it. And yes, that that that certainly is. I just wanted to make sure that the trans the transformation [0:38:57, 0:39:15]: was ceremonial. Let me clarify. The position itself, but the transformation on a year to year basis was rotated around. And that's how we would do it. Let me correct myself and say that the position is of of high esteem, but we will want it to be rotated on on a yearly basis ceremonially. [0:39:16, 0:39:22]: All right. No problem. A motion was made and been seconded. So uh all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:39:24, 0:39:25]: Opposed? [0:39:27, 0:39:27]: Sustain. [0:39:27, 0:39:30]: I abstain only for legal purposes. [0:39:31, 0:39:32]: All right. [0:39:32, 0:39:39]: All right. Um well the motion passed. One of station, Mr. Blount, you you've got to in one way or the other? [0:39:40, 0:39:41]: I can't hear you, sir. [0:39:41, 0:39:42]: I abstain. [0:39:42, 0:39:50]: Okay, so s uh three zero two. Okay, well congratulations, Councilman Alexander. You're now the mayor pro tem for twenty twenty one. [0:39:50, 0:39:56]: Thank you, sir. All right. Um, okay, so what's next? Oh, my comments. [0:39:56, 0:39:59]: Boy, do I have some comments? I'll tell you what. [0:39:59, 0:40:02]: First of all, I wanna say congratulations. [0:40:02, 0:40:04]: To John Osoff. [0:40:04, 0:40:06]: And Raphael Warnock. [0:40:06, 0:40:08]: For becoming our Georgia's new senators. [0:40:09, 0:40:10]: Fantastic. Okay, no. [0:40:11, 0:40:22]: join the rest of the Senate and uh here shortly and do their business. Now Raphael Warnock uh is only gonna be on for two more years before he has to run again and John Ossoff has uh six years. [0:40:22, 0:40:35]: Excuse me, in the Senate. And then of course, congratulations to Lauren Bubba McDon uh McDonnell Jr. for uh winning his re-election as the uh Public Service Commission District Four. Congratulations to him as well. [0:40:35, 0:40:48]: Um, I will tell you, ladies and gentlemen, um I've I've uh talked several several months, several months. You know, we've been going through this pandemic since March. And so and we're still fighting through this. And so [0:40:48, 0:40:55]: I want you to know that you can still get a test, get tested for COVID-19, a free test. [0:40:55, 0:40:56]: at the Heritage Senior Center. [0:40:57, 0:41:04]: And they're still doing that. It's it's actually run by a contractor. The public health department is funding a contractor to do that. [0:41:04, 0:41:23]: Um and so those times are still from uh nine to be some excuse me 10 to 3 um five days a week. Okay. And once again to to actually get a test, uh you need to call the number of 800-847-4262. Once again, 800-847-4262. [0:41:23, 0:41:24]: Um [0:41:25, 0:41:43]: Outside of that, uh I want to let you know that the um the county also has three mobile testing sites um in the in the county here. Mondays there'll be at Hidden Valley Park, which is 100 Spregens Spragan's Memorial Parkway. [0:41:43, 0:41:53]: And then that's on Mondays. And uh on uh Tuesdays, excuse me, on Wednesdays there'll be the North Mount Mount North Mount Carmel Park. [0:41:54, 0:41:57]: Was three oh seven North Mount Carmel Park Road in Hampton. [0:41:57, 0:42:00]: And then on Fridays at the Warren Holder Park. [0:42:00, 0:42:03]: And three oh one club drive. Now that's for testing. [0:42:04, 0:42:05]: Now I will tell you that [0:42:05, 0:42:08]: Testing was continue to go on to the end of this month. [0:42:08, 0:42:13]: And on to the next several months. Things will some things will change, but the more now the benefit [0:42:13, 0:42:19]: Is the limited assets, public health assets that we have are going to rotate more to vaccinations? [0:42:19, 0:42:22]: We want people to get vaccin uh get their vaccinations. [0:42:22, 0:42:24]: And it's by phases. [0:42:25, 0:42:25]: Okay. [0:42:25, 0:42:27]: So right now, actually tomorrow. [0:42:27, 0:42:28]: Tomorrow [0:42:28, 0:42:30]: Tomorrow from eight thirty to four. [0:42:31, 0:42:33]: There are going to be vaccinations at the Atlanta Motor Speedway. [0:42:34, 0:42:37]: But you have to have a reservation and they're already booked. [0:42:37, 0:42:38]: of this so [0:42:39, 0:42:49]: to get a reservation for a vaccination. Uh and I will tell you it once again it's by phases. So I'm gonna tell you what what at the phase 1A, who's qualified to do that. [0:42:49, 0:42:51]: If you're a healthcare worker. [0:42:51, 0:43:00]: In a clinical setting, nurses, physicians, EMS, and uh and uh EMS individuals are qualified to to be part of this phase one and get. [0:43:00, 0:43:03]: The vaccination technicians, environmental services. [0:43:04, 0:43:15]: staff and residents at long-term facilities. So if you're an individual, know someone at long-term facility, uh resident there, or someone that works at the long-term facility, senior home, things of that nature. [0:43:15, 0:43:21]: You're you're in that uh that road uh phase to to get vaccinated, right? All law enforcement. [0:43:22, 0:43:24]: All law enforcement and uh [0:43:25, 0:43:27]: And fire personnel are also available to do that. [0:43:30, 0:43:50]: Um then we have uh and any adults of 65 and older uh that are caregivers uh or caregivers of those individuals are um are also qualified to get vaccinated. Now I will tell you that the um the public health department because of the holiday coming up. [0:43:50, 0:43:54]: The next rotation, the next time for someone to get vaccinated won't be until [0:43:54, 0:43:56]: The uh twenty six [0:43:56, 0:43:57]: of this month. [0:43:58, 0:44:01]: And so you could have to go to the public health website. [0:44:01, 0:44:06]: and or to get a reservation and or call eight hundred-eight four seven four two six six six six six two. [0:44:06, 0:44:15]: Once again, 800-847-4262. And you have to stay on top of that because the line gets kind of full, but we'll go to the public health department website and make a reservation. [0:44:15, 0:44:32]: uh for that. And I am uh let me stop my comments for a second. I jumped the gun here and I just obviously I need uh I need folks to remind me'cause I will say the gray hair makes me forget. All right. That's my that's my story and I'm gonna stick to it. Actually it's supposed to be a joke. No one's laughing. [0:44:32, 0:44:33]: Anyway. [0:44:34, 0:44:40]: What it amounts to, I s slip my mind. I've I ski I've skipped over about the um back to the new business. We've skipped over about the [0:44:40, 0:44:41]: City Attorney. [0:44:41, 0:44:44]: And uh slip my mind on my note here. So [0:44:45, 0:44:48]: I'm sorry about that. We need to talk about the city attorney in reference to the appointment. [0:44:48, 0:44:49]: on this aspect. [0:44:50, 0:44:53]: Uh so uh yes, Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [0:44:53, 0:45:03]: Okay. In regards to the city attorney, um, you know, uh talking to colleagues uh individually, there's no of course we don't have any group meetings here. [0:45:03, 0:45:07]: Is that we have um made the decision not to extend the contract. [0:45:07, 0:45:11]: uh of the city attorney, but to issue a thirty day notice. [0:45:12, 0:45:13]: Uh as we seek to [0:45:13, 0:45:15]: Acquire new [0:45:15, 0:45:18]: An attorney for the city or decide to go. [0:45:18, 0:45:21]: uh with a in house uh attorney [0:45:21, 0:45:23]: For the city of Stockbridge. [0:45:24, 0:45:26]: We thank Mr. Williams for his service. [0:45:26, 0:45:27]: Uh to the city. [0:45:28, 0:45:32]: Uh during a troubling time, especially during the City of Eagles Landing battle. [0:45:32, 0:45:33]: And um [0:45:34, 0:45:37]: Uh several other issues that have presented themselves to the city. [0:45:38, 0:45:40]: We chip simply choosing to. [0:45:40, 0:45:42]: Uh go into a different direction. [0:45:42, 0:45:43]: At this point [0:45:43, 0:45:45]: The city менеджер [0:45:45, 0:45:48]: Містер найден ви проводити деталь. [0:45:48, 0:45:50]: uh to Mr Williams uh on what [0:45:51, 0:45:53]: Uh and how this will transpire. [0:45:53, 0:46:06]: On this point, uh, we will consult with Mr. Williams for the next 30 days, during at which time uh we will be seeking uh new representation for the city. But we certainly do thank him for his service. Thank you. [0:46:07, 0:46:11]: Um Ms. Gand, go ahead. You were up your hands first. Thank you, Mayor. Um [0:46:12, 0:46:17]: For the record, no one consulted with me. I didn't get a phone call. [0:46:17, 0:46:21]: And in fact, it's been going like that for the past year. [0:46:22, 0:46:24]: Um and [0:46:25, 0:46:27]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:46:29, 0:46:34]: You of all people would know that regardless of [0:46:34, 0:46:35]: What [0:46:35, 0:46:41]: side or what vision or what where this mayor and council's going. [0:46:41, 0:46:45]: Especially during appointments or anything of that nature. [0:46:45, 0:46:46]: That we would talk [0:46:47, 0:46:49]: No matter who it was. [0:46:49, 0:47:02]: Whether it was Councilman Alexander or Councilwoman Robinson at the time or whomever the case may be, this mayor and council has completely decided some very important decisions. [0:47:03, 0:47:05]: with a three two vote. [0:47:05, 0:47:12]: What some some of these decisions are completely just, I don't know if it's been thoroughly thought through. [0:47:12, 0:47:15]: and can be a a major liability. [0:47:15, 0:47:16]: to our city. [0:47:17, 0:47:28]: And so I just want everyone to know, including the public, how disappointed I am that my colleagues don't respect us enough to even discuss these very important issues. [0:47:29, 0:47:32]: Because I definitely wouldn't do it to you, Councilwoman Barber. [0:47:33, 0:47:39]: You, Mayor Pro Tem uh Alexander, or you, Councilman? [0:47:39, 0:47:41]: Uh Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:47:42, 0:47:44]: And you Catholman Blount. [0:47:44, 0:48:01]: Not one. And it's and you either, Mayor Ford. So I feel like there's a problem with that. I feel there's a total lack of respect when it comes to those issues, regardless of how you vote. Um, the planning and scheming has got to stop. [0:48:01, 0:48:06]: But this right here, doing this in public the way it's been done tonight, is totally unprofessional. [0:48:08, 0:48:10]: All right. Mayor Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:48:11, 0:48:12]: Yeah, I want to um [0:48:13, 0:48:19]: resonate some of the things that was said. Uh and uh the uh I want the clerk to document that [0:48:20, 0:48:22]: A statement was made that you spoke to colleagues. [0:48:23, 0:48:31]: That statement needs to be made that you didn't speak to John Blount. Councilman Blount did not get a phone call or anything from uh Mr. Elton Alexander. [0:48:32, 0:48:34]: When we sit here on this Zoom call tonight. [0:48:35, 0:48:38]: We sit here and we're straight faced about what we're doing. [0:48:39, 0:48:44]: Because there are predetermined decisions that have been made by three council members. [0:48:45, 0:48:50]: When I said before, we all are elected the elected body by the city of Stockbridge. [0:48:50, 0:48:58]: And go ahead and do your power moves and whatever moves you're going to be making. But I guarantee the city, the citizen's going to see what's going on. [0:48:58, 0:49:05]: When we come in here and get newly elected and we talk about how much we want to be fair, transparent and open, you can throw that on out the window. [0:49:06, 0:49:07]: І це баб пова. [0:49:08, 0:49:10]: And that's all it's been about power. [0:49:11, 0:49:18]: It's not about transparency. It's not about being open. It's not about discussing the city business. It's been about power. [0:49:20, 0:49:22]: And I agree with Councilwoman Gantt. [0:49:23, 0:49:35]: This is not the way that you deal with a personnel uh situation or personnel business out front like this without any discussions behind closed doors. [0:49:36, 0:49:40]: No discussions behind closed doors. The opportunities have been there. [0:49:42, 0:49:50]: But these three, when it comes to Councilwoman Barber, Councilman um uh uh Thomas and Councilman Alexander, there's no discussions. [0:49:50, 0:49:56]: It's about power. It's about having three votes to do whatever they want to do. And that's what's being done. [0:49:57, 0:50:03]: I I this I I do not like what what was done tonight and how it was done. We have never done it this way. [0:50:04, 0:50:08]: It we have never done it this way. So when they come to you all as citizens. [0:50:09, 0:50:16]: And say they talk about transparency and moving the city together and everybody, and we're better together, we're working together, and all this. I have fight for this city. [0:50:16, 0:50:21]: They called me the bail man. I was all over the city fighting for the city of Stockbridge. [0:50:22, 0:50:37]: But I fought to say we are better together. But what you've seen on this council so far is just power moves from three council members when we always elected to do the duties in the business of the city of Stockbridge. This is not how business is done. [0:50:37, 0:50:42]: Every I can't tell you how many times we've got on a Zoom call. [0:50:43, 0:50:51]: And you talked about things of the city manager that he doesn't know, nor the mayor. There's no respect for anyone other than the power to do. [0:50:52, 0:50:57]: And that's what you all are doing. You have the power to do, and that's all you're doing. [0:50:58, 0:50:59]: And shame on you for it. [0:51:01, 0:51:01]: All right. [0:51:02, 0:51:03]: Casman Alzheimer, go ahead, please. [0:51:04, 0:51:05]: Oh, the question, please. [0:51:05, 0:51:25]: Yeah, what it is uh the the I guess since then you made a statement. So there the the the motion I would imagine would be made in somewhat uh to uh to adopt you well your presentation, I would imagine that's what it would be in this aspect. And uh but it was not uh I didn't sit here a second at this point. I didn't ask for a second. So is there a second to [0:51:25, 0:51:28]: your statement here in a form of emotion. [0:51:29, 0:51:44]: Okay. Ms. Barber, second that. Okay. I would imagine I'll ask the question. Are there any other uh discussions on this? If not, I'll okay. Discussion? Uh comments. Go ahead, sir. [0:51:45, 0:51:47]: Well let me say this. Um [0:51:48, 0:51:50]: I've been on this council for a while. [0:51:51, 0:51:53]: I've had a relationship with [0:51:53, 0:51:55]: Everyone on this council. [0:51:56, 0:51:59]: Uh Mrs. Barber's been here since January. [0:52:00, 0:52:03]: Uh I'm going to take some issues with [0:52:03, 0:52:07]: The way things transpire on this council. [0:52:08, 0:52:09]: Over years. [0:52:09, 0:52:11]: Uh I'm not gonna call anyone out. [0:52:12, 0:52:14]: Um about [0:52:15, 0:52:21]: discussions and I think everyone knows that um I've been involved with discussions. [0:52:21, 0:52:25]: on all of the business. Now the only thing that I will agree upon [0:52:25, 0:52:27]: Um this tonight. [0:52:28, 0:52:29]: Um [0:52:30, 0:52:32]: It may be a little different. Um [0:52:33, 0:52:34]: But one thing I can say. [0:52:35, 0:52:39]: Everyone has an opportunity to to voice their opinion. [0:52:39, 0:52:43]: Everyone has an opportunity to raise their hand and vote. [0:52:43, 0:52:46]: Whether you do it in executive session. [0:52:46, 0:52:50]: or whether you do it on the diet. Now is my understanding [0:52:50, 0:52:53]: That you can make this decision. [0:52:53, 0:52:55]: Uh from the diet. [0:52:55, 0:52:57]: But the point I'm trying to make is [0:52:58, 0:53:01]: Uh and and and individuals know this too. [0:53:01, 0:53:04]: That I've been involved in some conversations. [0:53:04, 0:53:06]: With everyone on this council. [0:53:07, 0:53:09]: And and things has not always [0:53:10, 0:53:11]: Gone. [0:53:11, 0:53:15]: In the direction that some members are trying to say that they have gone. [0:53:16, 0:53:17]: Um [0:53:17, 0:53:19]: Three two votes. [0:53:19, 0:53:20]: Are not new. [0:53:21, 0:53:23]: Uh, you can go back. [0:53:23, 0:53:28]: And you could watch any meetings going back the last four, five, six, seven years. [0:53:29, 0:53:31]: And and and for the most part. [0:53:31, 0:53:33]: You're gonna see a three-two vote. [0:53:34, 0:53:37]: So I I I take issues with [0:53:37, 0:53:40]: The three two vote concept. [0:53:40, 0:53:43]: Because I know that there has been [0:53:43, 0:53:45]: Uh discussions. [0:53:46, 0:53:46]: Um [0:53:48, 0:53:49]: Offline. [0:53:50, 0:53:52]: And I know decisions have been made. [0:53:52, 0:53:53]: Offline. [0:53:54, 0:53:55]: So um [0:53:56, 0:54:00]: I don't agree with that totally. The the only thing that I I saw to feel is that [0:54:00, 0:54:01]: Tonight [0:54:02, 0:54:04]: Tonight this one and only time. [0:54:05, 0:54:08]: This decision tonight about the city attorney. [0:54:08, 0:54:21]: It may have been different, but it's my understanding that these decisions can be made uh from the dais. But again, I I take exception to the three, two. [0:54:21, 0:54:24]: Uh vote because I know better. [0:54:25, 0:54:26]: Thank you. [0:54:26, 0:54:46]: All right, I'll tell you what, thank you, Mayor. Well, actually, Councilman uh Thomas now, so I gotta get used to that, I guess, in a sense. All right, I'll tell you what, uh, we don't want to make this long drawn out. Everybody's spoken at least once. Uh so I would imagine the motion has been made and it's been seconded. Now I would ask Councilman Barber if you everybody spoke but you. I don't know if you want to say something now or not. [0:54:46, 0:54:48]: not and if you don't we'll we'll move on. [0:54:51, 0:54:52]: Very brief. [0:54:52, 0:54:54]: Um for me. [0:54:55, 0:54:59]: My decisions are based on [0:54:59, 0:55:00]: Thanks. [0:55:01, 0:55:02]: And [0:55:02, 0:55:05]: The information as I know them to be. [0:55:05, 0:55:09]: I always want to stick with. [0:55:09, 0:55:11]: The issues on the agenda. [0:55:12, 0:55:13]: Um [0:55:13, 0:55:15]: This is nothing personal. [0:55:15, 0:55:16]: For mi. [0:55:17, 0:55:19]: This three two vote концепт. [0:55:19, 0:55:20]: I've watched it. [0:55:21, 0:55:24]: For a number of years prior to me coming on council. [0:55:25, 0:55:26]: It's not about a power move. [0:55:27, 0:55:28]: It's about doing what? [0:55:28, 0:55:31]: I feel is the best thing to do. [0:55:31, 0:55:32]: Um [0:55:32, 0:55:38]: regardless of what the issue or the item is. So that's all. I'll leave it at that. [0:55:38, 0:55:38]: Right. [0:55:39, 0:55:45]: Everybody's spoken. So let's let's move on. Motion is made to miss seconds. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:55:46, 0:55:49]: One, two, three, all pose. [0:55:50, 0:55:51]: Sustain. [0:55:53, 0:56:07]: Okay, so it's three one one. And what I understand from the motion, Mr. Uh Knighton, uh that that involves you in having further discussion with Mr. Williams in reference to what was uh presented. It's my understanding. Is that correct? [0:56:09, 0:56:18]: Mr. Knighton? Is that c is that do I under that's that's under that's what I understand per councilman or being approached in Al Alexander's uh comment. [0:56:19, 0:56:20]: Okay. [0:56:21, 0:56:30]: Um all right. I don't know if I uh I guess I should uh ask. I don't know if uh Mr. Williams, do you have anything you need to say, sir? [0:56:30, 0:56:41]: Uh yes, sir. Um very brief. Um it's been my honor to serve the city for seven years. Um, I believe I've served diligently and faithfully. [0:56:42, 0:56:48]: Um, I believe Stockbridge is a wonderful place. I believe Stockbridge has a an amazing feature and [0:56:49, 0:56:55]: While I would certainly wish this decision to be reconsidered, I understand that, you know, you have your right and [0:56:56, 0:56:58]: You know, my preference has always been [0:56:58, 0:57:00]: to be appointed five zero. [0:57:00, 0:57:03]: Not three, two, or any other and uh [0:57:03, 0:57:06]: I know things have changed and there's a you know [0:57:06, 0:57:08]: You want to go in a new direction and [0:57:08, 0:57:13]: And I respect that and uh you know I certainly wish Doc Rich the best. I will work [0:57:14, 0:57:17]: faithfully with the city manager for a smooth transition. [0:57:17, 0:57:20]: Um, but I'm always here, should you change your mind? [0:57:20, 0:57:23]: And thank you very much for this opportunity to serve. [0:57:24, 0:57:26]: All right. Thank you, sir, for your comments. We appreciate it. [0:57:27, 0:57:40]: Okay. Thank you very much. On that note, uh I'll um uh um move on with the upcoming announcements. First of all, obviously the city uh offices are all closed due to COVID-19 precautions and um [0:57:41, 0:58:01]: City Council meeting is always of course 6 p.m. like we have tonight, second Monday of each month. The uh Main Street Advisory Board meeting is 9 a.m. by Zoom on the second Friday of each month. The downtown November Authority is 6 p.m. by Zoom on third Tuesday of each month. The youth uh council advisory meeting is [0:58:01, 0:58:07]: Is uh the third Tuesday of East Month. Uh council meeting is 630 by Zoom at third Tuesday of each month. [0:58:07, 0:58:27]: Planning commission meeting is 6:30 by Zoom, a fourth Thursday of each month. And our council work session and public hearing uh is always the last Tuesday each month, unless otherwise noted. And uh we have a public hearing on uh January 26th, 6 p.m. Council consideration to approve. [0:58:27, 0:58:33]: The adoption of the 2020 to 2025 short-term work program capital improvement element. [0:58:34, 0:58:37]: And uh council initiatives that are upcoming. [0:58:37, 0:58:41]: Is Council Councilman Alexander? Well excuse me, Mayor Pro Tem Alexander now. [0:58:41, 0:58:46]: For the annual King Holiday Service Day project taking place January sixteenth. [0:58:46, 0:58:47]: Twenty twenty one. [0:58:48, 0:58:52]: A day of service on a Saturday prior to Martin Luther King Junior's holiday at ten AM to noon. [0:58:53, 0:59:02]: And plan to meet the city hall and c and uh c or contact says Zenovia Peterson, which is well, she has a phone number here, four oh four five six five fifty one oh nine. [0:59:02, 0:59:13]: And uh of course we're closed uh city hall and all the buildings are closed on holiday. Uh there is one other thing I I don't know why I forgot to mention this early. Once again, I'll blame it on my gray hair, right? [0:59:14, 0:59:16]: last Wednesday. [0:59:17, 0:59:22]: We had an assault on our Capitol building in DC, as you well know. [0:59:23, 0:59:41]: And uh pretty appalling in this aspect. And um it's a it's a shame that you would think that even even us as we are citizens, all citizens here of the of not only the city of Stockbridge in a sense, or citizens of the state, let's say that'cause some of us don't live in Stockbridge outside the council, that is, but [0:59:42, 0:59:46]: Um the assault, of course, as you well know, wasn't from a foreign terrorist. [0:59:47, 0:59:50]: These are domestic by US citizens themselves. [0:59:50, 0:59:53]: And so it's unfortunate that it happened. [0:59:53, 0:59:58]: And obviously assault on our capital like this hasn't happened since the [0:59:58, 1:00:01]: War of eighteen twelve, well over two hundred years ago. [1:00:02, 1:00:07]: Now and I surely hope and pray that between now, today's date and the [1:00:08, 1:00:24]: and the actual uh inauguration of uh President Joe Biden and his Vice President Kamala Harris, that we don't have any more assaults like this. If there's any type of protest, hopefully it's being peaceful protest and not any violent protests. [1:00:24, 1:00:37]: And actually, if we if we look to the good Lord uh and we think about Martin Luther King Jr. in reference to nonviolence uh in this aspect, that's what we should do. So hopefully that will occur that if there are any protests or uh [1:00:37, 1:00:40]: In this aspect that it'd be peaceful and not violent. [1:00:40, 1:00:42]: But I also heard on CNN. [1:00:42, 1:00:44]: Earlier tonight before this meeting. [1:00:44, 1:01:01]: that the FBI has been notified or notified all the state capitals and across the entire country, all 50 states, that there are pretty much threats against some type of violent action happening in each one of our capitals, in each one of the states here, sometime between now and the inauguration. [1:01:01, 1:01:17]: Which is a shame. And I heard it hope that doesn't happen. And I'm pretty sure that the rest of the council and and you all that are listening hope that something like this doesn't happen either. Um it's it's not good. It's not good for our democracy, but we're gonna survive this, just like we're gonna survive this pandemic. [1:01:17, 1:01:37]: So I I just uh I thought about that and I just want to mention that this aspect that uh keep everybody in prayer, be safe, and hope for God that uh things don't get out of hand and be extremely careful when moving about when you're outside in the community and uh this you know. [1:01:37, 1:01:42]: Well be careful. We don't need to have an internal civil war in our country. [1:01:43, 1:01:45]: We just it's not needed. [1:01:45, 1:01:52]: So I don't know what else to say, but uh keep the faith and pray about this and be vigilant. [1:01:53, 1:02:07]: On that note, I I I got an indication earlier that we don't have an executive session that is planned. Uh the I if the council wants to, I believe uh if there's probably some litigation or some things that we probably uh well wait a minute. Uh [1:02:07, 1:02:10]: Did we yeah, Mr. Allison? Go ahead, please. I'm sorry. [1:02:11, 1:02:12]: Have you unmuted, sir? [1:02:13, 1:02:18]: I make a motion that uh we do not have an executive session tonight and that we end the meeting. [1:02:19, 1:02:21]: Or is there a second to that motion? [1:02:22, 1:02:23]: I see okay. [1:02:23, 1:02:26]: Is there okay? All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:02:28, 1:02:30]: Okay, all poles. [1:02:32, 1:02:40]: Okay, it's three two the motion passed. On that note, I need a motion to adjourn our meeting. So moved. Is there a second? [1:02:41, 1:02:44]: Mayor Portem seconds that all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:02:47, 1:02:54]: It's a unanimous decision. God bless y'all. Be safe. All right. Now see y'all later. Take care of yourself. [1:02:55, 1:02:56]: Good night.
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[0:01:46, 0:01:48]: Hit any of my [0:01:48, 0:01:52]: computer or cable lines while they're out there digging around. [0:01:52, 0:01:54]: Right, right, okay. [0:01:55, 0:01:58]: Well, I'm gonna go back to mute, so I'm I'm here. [0:01:58, 0:01:59]: Okay. [0:02:05, 0:02:06]: Let's see. [0:02:12, 0:02:16]: Nine oh five. Miss Kira, are we awaiting waiting on anyone else? [0:02:17, 0:02:20]: Um let's see how many people do we have? [0:02:20, 0:02:23]: We have everyone except Linda and Barber Richardson. [0:02:24, 0:02:33]: Well we have six people, so we have a quorum so we can get started whenever you are um ready to get started. [0:02:33, 0:02:34]: Okay, sounds great. [0:02:40, 0:02:41]: Good morning, Greg. [0:02:43, 0:02:45]: Good morning. [0:02:46, 0:02:47]: Everyone. [0:02:49, 0:03:09]: I think that's a perfect, let's get started. Okay. Good morning, everyone who's present and those that are on their way. Um, it is 9.05 and we like to call our first uh meeting of the 2021 calendar year to order uh for the Main Street Advisory Board. Um happy to see all your faces. [0:03:09, 0:03:29]: And know that you're present even if I can't. Um and with that, um, we want to uh first before we even really get into our meeting, just wanted to say um we are so excited to welcome back um Miss Mildred Reed and Mr. Shamari Firch. They were installed just a day ago, uh two days ago. Um [0:03:29, 0:03:36]: And we're so happy that you've decided to continue your commitment to the Main Street Advisory Board and to the City of Stockbridge. [0:03:37, 0:03:47]: Yes, thank you. Welcome. Alrighty, ladies and gentlemen. So let's go ahead and get started with our uh roll call for attendance. That's the first thing on our Jenna. Yes, woot woot. [0:03:49, 0:04:01]: Um so we'll go through the attendance roll call relatively quickly. Um first up is Mr. Shamari Firch. We know you're present. We just thank you, sir. But you know what, for the record, let's make sure it's official. If you need to put in the chat, that's fine too. [0:04:02, 0:04:03]: Yep, I'm present in here. [0:04:04, 0:04:07]: Thank you, sir. Um Mr. Willie Horton. [0:04:09, 0:04:11]: I mean I put names together. Lord Mr. Willie. [0:04:12, 0:04:22]: Hopkins. Because I'm looking at his screen. I know you stepped away. We'll give him a moment. Um looks like he had to step away for just a sec. Um, Mr. Greg Horton. [0:04:22, 0:04:26]: Present. Thank you, sir. Uh Miss Linda Jones. [0:04:27, 0:04:28]: Miss Linda Jones. [0:04:29, 0:04:29]: Okay. [0:04:30, 0:04:33]: Uh Anika Pods, I am she, I am present. [0:04:33, 0:04:35]: Uh Miss Mildred Reed. [0:04:35, 0:04:36]: Yeah, present. [0:04:36, 0:04:37]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:04:37, 0:04:40]: Um, Miss Barber Richardson. [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: Miss Barber Richardson? [0:04:44, 0:04:44]: Mm. [0:04:44, 0:04:46]: Miss Pamela Sanders. [0:04:47, 0:04:48]: I'm here. [0:04:48, 0:04:49]: Thank you, man. [0:04:50, 0:04:52]: Um and may approach him. [0:04:52, 0:04:54]: Alfonso Thomas Thomas. [0:04:54, 0:04:56]: President. [0:04:56, 0:05:03]: All right, we uh do have a quorum. We'll d circle back and see if Mr. Willie Hopkins. [0:05:05, 0:05:06]: Is present. [0:05:07, 0:05:18]: We'll give him a moment. Again, it looks like he may have um needed to take a uh a step away, but he is showing on the screen. Uh so we'll just um give him an opportunity to return, circle back to um the meeting in just a moment. [0:05:19, 0:05:25]: All right, with the roll call done, uh again we will say that he is present. [0:05:25, 0:05:35]: uh and say we have a quorum. We will now move on to uh the reading of the mission statement. Um I would love to read it today if that's at all uh okay with the board. [0:05:36, 0:05:46]: That's fine. Yes, please. Thank you. So the mission of the stock is for our board. Uh the Stockbridge Main Street. [0:05:46, 0:05:51]: program's mission is to design and support an identifiable downtown [0:05:52, 0:05:58]: Um that has hi that's a historic district that promotes economic vitality. [0:05:58, 0:06:05]: cultivates artistic expression, encourages cultural enrichment, and nurtures our community spirit. [0:06:05, 0:06:10]: That is our mission. That is what we will continue to stay focused on doing. [0:06:10, 0:06:13]: Uh thank you for allowing me to read that this morning. [0:06:13, 0:06:17]: Next on our agenda is the review and approval of the agenda. [0:06:18, 0:06:22]: Excuse me, ma madam chair, just a correction, maybe it's too soon to make it. [0:06:22, 0:06:29]: On the agenda, the date is Jan you have January 20, 2020. That's just a minor correction I just saw. [0:06:29, 0:06:33]: Thank you. That is that forty and slope that most of us have this time. [0:06:34, 0:06:54]: So um uh we will make sure that that is corrected. Uh there has been a corrected agenda that has been provided. Um I don't believe it made it to everyone just yet, but I'm actually looking at a corrected version. I'm sure our program manager will um uh ensure this version makes it into the minutes. Um [0:06:53, 0:07:00]: Um and that um into the record and that each of you have a copy of it. So it has been corrected, but thank you for for noticing that. [0:07:01, 0:07:06]: Yes, I actually hit send on the document and tried to recall [0:07:06, 0:07:25]: the um email that I sent out. So I think some of you did get the corrected one. But I've also sent out an another corrected one this morning just to make sure that everyone has the corrected document. And I apologize for that. That was just one of those things, like Anika said at the beginning of the year. [0:07:26, 0:07:28]: You're typing so fast you don't even think about it. [0:07:29, 0:07:34]: But yes, um I will make sure that the corrected version with the correct year date [0:07:34, 0:07:36]: Is in our records. [0:07:37, 0:07:38]: Thank you. [0:07:38, 0:07:51]: Let us also let the record reflect before we um uh move to accept the agenda with the corrections that Miss Barber Richardson has joined the meeting. Good morning and happy new year, Miss Richardson. Good morning. [0:07:54, 0:07:55]: She's on mute. [0:07:56, 0:07:56]: Okay. [0:07:57, 0:08:02]: Good morning. I didn't realise I was on mute. Happy New Year, everyone. Happy New Year to you too. [0:08:03, 0:08:10]: Alrighty. So with the noted corrections, is there a need for um any discussion regarding the agenda for our meeting? [0:08:14, 0:08:14]: Okay. [0:08:14, 0:08:20]: Hearing none, can we please get a motion to um accept it as uh with the corrections noted? [0:08:23, 0:08:24]: You mute it, Miss Miss Reed. [0:08:27, 0:08:30]: I move that we accept the agenda with the note of correction. [0:08:31, 0:08:31]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:08:31, 0:08:32]: Second anywhere? [0:08:33, 0:08:33]: Anyone? [0:08:34, 0:08:34]: A second. [0:08:35, 0:08:36]: Thank you, Mr. Firch. [0:08:37, 0:08:44]: Uh in order to ensure that the record is reflected properly, we will go through each name to ensure that we have a yay or nay to um accept. [0:08:45, 0:08:48]: the motion as as presented, which is [0:08:48, 0:08:57]: That we um accept the agenda as written with the noted need to correct the year date. Um, Mr. Furch, your vote? [0:09:01, 0:09:02]: And you are muted, sir. [0:09:06, 0:09:07]: Yes. [0:09:07, 0:09:08]: Thank you. [0:09:09, 0:09:13]: Mr. Hopkins is still not available, so we will move on to Mr Thornton. [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: Morton, yes. [0:09:17, 0:09:20]: Yes, Mr. Horton. I apologize. I know your name. [0:09:21, 0:09:27]: Thank you. Um, Miss Uh Potts, I say yes. Miss Reed [0:09:27, 0:09:28]: Yes. [0:09:29, 0:09:35]: Thank you. Miss Richardson? Yes. Thank you. Miss Sanders? Yes. Thank you. [0:09:35, 0:09:37]: Mr. Tom Thomas. [0:09:37, 0:09:43]: Yes. Thank you. Uh the motion has carried and we will move on with the agenda as presented. [0:09:43, 0:09:54]: Uh thank you all for that. We will now review um and go through the approval process of our uh meeting minutes from our December twenty twenty virtual meeting. [0:09:54, 0:09:55]: Um [0:09:56, 0:10:07]: Again, this information has been sent to you previously prior to the meeting to ensure that we would be able to move quickly through this portion. Uh does anyone have any need to uh bring up [0:10:07, 0:10:10]: something that needs to be reviewed, edited, or revised. [0:10:11, 0:10:12]: Or add it. [0:10:14, 0:10:14]: Rice. [0:10:24, 0:10:25]: All right. [0:10:27, 0:10:34]: Hearing none, uh can we please have uh a motion to accept the December uh [0:10:35, 0:10:39]: twenty twenty meeting agenda for the Main Street Advisory Board as presented. [0:10:39, 0:10:40]: Minutes. [0:10:41, 0:10:42]: Minutes, thank you. [0:10:47, 0:10:48]: Madam Chair. [0:10:48, 0:10:49]: Yes, you sweet. [0:10:50, 0:10:53]: Uh I've uh move that we accept the minutes as presented. [0:10:53, 0:10:54]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:10:55, 0:10:56]: Do you have a second? [0:11:00, 0:11:00]: A second. [0:11:01, 0:11:09]: Thank you, Mr. Furge. We will uh go through the voting the same as we did with the agenda. Uh Mr. Furge, in favor or not? [0:11:10, 0:11:12]: I've accepted thank you. [0:11:12, 0:11:17]: Uh we will move beyond Mr. Hopkins, Mr. Horton. [0:11:18, 0:11:18]: Yes. [0:11:19, 0:11:21]: Thank you. Um [0:11:23, 0:11:24]: Does someone speak? [0:11:27, 0:11:33]: Okay. All right. Just guess there's a little feedback. Myself, uh Anika Potts, yes. Miss Reed. [0:11:34, 0:11:41]: Yes. Thank you. Um Miss Richardson? Yes. Thank you. Miss Sanders? [0:11:42, 0:11:45]: Yes. Thank you. And Mr. Thomas. [0:11:46, 0:11:47]: Yes. [0:11:47, 0:11:49]: Thank you. Uh so moved. [0:11:50, 0:12:10]: Uh at this point we will um uh allow the meeting minutes to be uh added to the record for future uh reference. And then finally on reviewing and approval approving, we have our financial statement for December 2020 that we need to review and approve. Um [0:12:10, 0:12:13]: Any need for discussion questions or concerns? [0:12:15, 0:12:16]: Madam Chairwoman. [0:12:16, 0:12:18]: Yes, list rhymes. [0:12:19, 0:12:21]: Um yes, I just wanted to um [0:12:22, 0:12:22]: Um [0:12:23, 0:12:38]: point out on the um account summary income statement that we still have under the line item of copy of rental, that number has not moved since we first noted it in July to um$50 and 65 cents. [0:12:38, 0:12:46]: Um that is um the only thing that we had not planned for, as I mentioned before in our budget, and that's why it has [0:12:46, 0:12:48]: Um a negative balance there. [0:12:49, 0:12:51]: Um that will be rectified. Um [0:12:52, 0:12:54]: Once um the financial team [0:12:54, 0:12:58]: Does the final um cleaning up of the books for the end of the year? [0:12:58, 0:13:02]: And that will probably be um remedied by taking [0:13:02, 0:13:03]: Um fifty [0:13:04, 0:13:10]: dollars and sixty five cents from the supplies and materials. Um that's something that they will do. [0:13:10, 0:13:12]: Um internali with regard to [0:13:13, 0:13:13]: Um [0:13:14, 0:13:21]: closing out the books for the end of the year. So um everything else is in balance and um [0:13:21, 0:13:22]: Аж you can see. [0:13:22, 0:13:26]: Uh we ended the year because we did not have um [0:13:26, 0:13:28]: as much programming or we're not able to [0:13:29, 0:13:31]: provide as much programming um [0:13:31, 0:13:34]: At least at the level that we are used to during the year. [0:13:34, 0:13:36]: We did um in the year with [0:13:36, 0:13:44]: Um, a pretty high balance one that we've never seen before. And of course, that's just due to the COVID restrictions and our inability. [0:13:44, 0:13:51]: to um do the programming that we um have come to expect. So I did just want to point that out. [0:13:51, 0:13:56]: And um let everyone know that um, you know, for the most part uh we're in good standing. [0:13:59, 0:14:02]: Yes. I was looking at that and saying, Wow, that's a nice [0:14:03, 0:14:09]: You'll never see that again, exactly. But you totally understand why. [0:14:10, 0:14:10]: Okay. [0:14:11, 0:14:14]: Any additional discussion, concerns, questions? [0:14:18, 0:14:26]: Okay, hearing and seeing none, um we now um ask for a motion to um accept the uh [0:14:27, 0:14:37]: December twenty twenty financial statement for the Main Street Advisory Board as presented with the noted understanding of why there is a uh [0:14:37, 0:14:39]: uh credit. [0:14:39, 0:14:40]: on one of the line items. [0:14:40, 0:14:44]: A a negative balance. Negative negative balance. [0:14:45, 0:14:48]: And um the copier rental line item. [0:14:49, 0:14:53]: And they copy a renter renter rental line item. [0:15:04, 0:15:15]: Mr. Hopkins, you are muted. Yes, sir. Yes. I I move that we accept the December 2020 financial report with the necessary adjustments in place in the archives for future auditing purposes. [0:15:15, 0:15:16]: Okay, thank you, sir. [0:15:18, 0:15:19]: Can we get a second, please? [0:15:22, 0:15:38]: Ms. Mr. Reed. I'll s I'll second. Thank you, ma'am. Um and we will go and through the name uh names to ensure we are getting a proper uh vote uh to see if we are in favor against this motion. Uh so Mr. Firch. [0:15:41, 0:15:42]: And we are all muted at this time. [0:15:46, 0:15:49]: He might not be able to be present. [0:15:49, 0:15:50]: Mr. Furch. [0:15:52, 0:15:54]: Okay. Mr. Hopkins. [0:15:56, 0:15:57]: Yes, sir. [0:15:58, 0:15:59]: Thank you. [0:16:01, 0:16:02]: Uh, Mr. Horton. [0:16:03, 0:16:04]: Yes. [0:16:04, 0:16:05]: Thank you. [0:16:07, 0:16:11]: I Anika Potts are in favor, yes. Uh Miss Reed? [0:16:12, 0:16:13]: Yes. Thank you. [0:16:15, 0:16:20]: I uh got a message that Mr. Firch is in favor. Miss Richardson. [0:16:20, 0:16:21]: Yes. [0:16:21, 0:16:22]: Thank you. [0:16:22, 0:16:24]: Uh Miss Sanders? [0:16:24, 0:16:27]: Yes. Thank you. And Mr. Thomas. [0:16:27, 0:16:36]: Yes. Thank you. Unanimously move. Um thank you so much for allowing us to go through that portion of the meeting. Um we will now uh [0:16:37, 0:16:43]: Turn our meeting over to our Main Street Advisory Board who will give us our report. [0:16:44, 0:16:48]: Good morning everyone and um happy new year. [0:16:48, 0:16:56]: It's great to see everyone and see that we are all safe and sound and have uh made it through twenty twenty. [0:16:57, 0:17:00]: It's been a challenge for everyone and I'm kinda happy to [0:17:01, 0:17:04]: See that one move on and us to move forward. [0:17:05, 0:17:19]: Okay. Um with regard to um old business on the agenda, um basically I just had two housekeeping items um that I need to have everyone um to pay attention to. [0:17:19, 0:17:25]: If you did not turn in your um bio sheet, I sent those out last month. [0:17:25, 0:17:28]: Um, I have only received I think three. [0:17:28, 0:17:41]: I need an updated bio bio sheet from everyone. So if you could please send those in. Those who um had were required to send in their board intent, they don't have to do one because it's basically the same information. [0:17:42, 0:17:45]: Um so please get that in to me as soon as you can. [0:17:46, 0:17:52]: And then also um we have um our board positions. I wanted to remind everyone. [0:17:52, 0:18:12]: That we have some board positions that are available, and we need you all to reach into your networks and try to encourage someone who you feel would be a fit with our board to fill the vacant positions. The first position is that of an [0:18:12, 0:18:15]: arts organization representative. [0:18:16, 0:18:19]: And it has to be a stock bridge based um [0:18:19, 0:18:27]: Arts organization. We did receive an um application from an arts organization that is [0:18:28, 0:18:31]: Um technically has a stock bridge address. [0:18:32, 0:18:39]: But um because of where they are located, they are an unincorporated stock bridge. So [0:18:39, 0:18:40]: That has um [0:18:41, 0:18:44]: posed a challenge um because there aren't [0:18:44, 0:18:45]: That many [0:18:45, 0:18:53]: arts organizations that are located in within the city of Stockbridge's boundaries as far as their location. [0:18:54, 0:19:03]: site or at least their um post office postal address. And so that is something that we might want to look at as a board. [0:19:03, 0:19:05]: With regard to um [0:19:06, 0:19:08]: The arts organization um [0:19:09, 0:19:10]: Like our [0:19:10, 0:19:12]: Um position for the [0:19:12, 0:19:15]: um architect slash um [0:19:15, 0:19:18]: Landscape design slash interior decorator position. [0:19:19, 0:19:22]: That particular position per or by laws [0:19:22, 0:19:25]: Із алобафової Henry County. [0:19:26, 0:19:27]: uh resident because that [0:19:28, 0:19:37]: particular position is so narrow in its focus. Um and because Stockbridge might not [0:19:37, 0:19:41]: Um have the ability to um being within the city limits might not. [0:19:42, 0:19:42]: Um [0:19:42, 0:19:47]: be able to appropriately fill that position and we've had trouble trying to keep that position filled. [0:19:48, 0:19:50]: Um it was open to [0:19:50, 0:19:54]: Um a Henry K Stockbridge um Henry County resident. [0:19:54, 0:20:00]: So that's something that um you all might want to entertain for the arts organization. [0:20:01, 0:20:02]: as well because [0:20:02, 0:20:05]: Um several of the arts organizations that [0:20:06, 0:20:08]: I even know of are outside of the city limits. [0:20:09, 0:20:15]: So if that is something that you all would like to um entertain, let me know. That would require [0:20:16, 0:20:21]: Um a bylaws change and vote from the board in order for us. [0:20:21, 0:20:24]: to implement that particular change. [0:20:24, 0:20:26]: Um the other position [0:20:26, 0:20:34]: Is a business owner outside of the Main Street district. That position has just come open as um [0:20:35, 0:20:40]: Miss Um Anita Johnson will be rolling off the board. She is closing her business. [0:20:41, 0:20:42]: And um [0:20:42, 0:20:56]: will um is retiring, closing your business and retiring. So we will need another business owner outside of the Main Street district to fill that particular um space on the board. [0:20:56, 0:21:10]: So we've got the arts organization representative, we have the architect landscape or interior designer position, and then we have the one position for business outside of the Main Street District. [0:21:10, 0:21:11]: And um [0:21:12, 0:21:24]: There have been a couple of people who have expressed an interest in the business owner, but they have not yet submitted their application. In the event we get more than one application, we of course will [0:21:24, 0:21:42]: um share those applications with the board members so that we can make a recommendation to the city council members um for appointment. So just kind of think about it. Think about your networks, your um did other boards that you serve on. [0:21:43, 0:21:56]: you know, friends, family members, anyone that you feel would be um interested in our mission and would like to serve on the Main Street Advisory Board. Those two those three positions all have um [0:21:56, 0:21:57]: A [0:21:57, 0:21:58]: Two year term. [0:21:59, 0:22:05]: So um just wanted to bring that out. Is there any opinion or discussion with regard to [0:22:05, 0:22:06]: Um [0:22:06, 0:22:11]: the arts organization position and um my recommendation for [0:22:12, 0:22:12]: Um [0:22:13, 0:22:21]: Changing the bylaw so that we can um cast that net a little bit wider or do you all feel we need to give it a little bit more time? [0:22:21, 0:22:23]: To see if we can um try to [0:22:24, 0:22:26]: Um uncover some stock bridge base. [0:22:27, 0:22:27]: Um [0:22:28, 0:22:29]: Arts organizations. [0:22:30, 0:22:32]: Uh Miss Richardson, I think I saw your hand raised. [0:22:33, 0:22:41]: I'm well, I didn't have a question about that. I just wanted to get the three positions again. Okay. It is um the first one is a business. [0:22:42, 0:22:49]: um representative outside of the Main Street district. So that'll be outside of the downtown area, but within the city limits. [0:22:49, 0:22:51]: The second one is [0:22:51, 0:22:54]: Um kind of a hybrid position. It can be a [0:22:55, 0:22:55]: Architect. [0:22:56, 0:22:57]: An interior designer [0:22:58, 0:23:01]: or a landscape architect. [0:23:02, 0:23:02]: Okay. [0:23:03, 0:23:04]: And then the um [0:23:05, 0:23:09]: Third position is an arts organization representative. [0:23:09, 0:23:14]: Okay. Thank you. And it can be any type of arts organization. And right now [0:23:14, 0:23:19]: It has to be located within the Stockbridge city limits. Okay. [0:23:20, 0:23:21]: Okay. [0:23:21, 0:23:23]: Miss Reed, you had a question? [0:23:23, 0:23:26]: Uh comment to what Kira was discussing with the art. [0:23:26, 0:23:27]: organization. [0:23:28, 0:23:32]: I think we should go ahead and consider outside of the city of Stockbridge. [0:23:32, 0:23:35]: Because that uh it seems to be kind of a limited [0:23:36, 0:23:39]: Um connection as far as the city is concerned. [0:23:39, 0:23:40]: Yeah, sorry. [0:23:41, 0:23:46]: So I don't know that we need to delay that, but should make a decision now to continue looking. [0:23:46, 0:23:51]: To add it does not eliminate if we find someone for the city of Stockbridge. [0:23:52, 0:23:59]: Okay. Thank you. Mr. Thomas But within Henry County, would you say? Uh yes, yes, I'm sorry, within Henry County. [0:24:01, 0:24:04]: Okay. Mr. Hopkins oh Annika. [0:24:04, 0:24:05]: Wait. [0:24:05, 0:24:10]: Um, madam chair, thank you. Uh Madam Chair, I move that we [0:24:11, 0:24:13]: Um consider [0:24:13, 0:24:22]: bylaws legislation to uh extend the arts category into um [0:24:23, 0:24:26]: From the k from the city out to the county. [0:24:26, 0:24:30]: uh for inclusion into um the main street program. [0:24:32, 0:24:32]: Okay. [0:24:32, 0:24:35]: Thank you, sir. Mr. Hopkins? [0:24:35, 0:24:37]: Madam Chair, I second that motion. [0:24:38, 0:24:40]: Thank you. Any discussion? [0:24:42, 0:24:42]: From the board. [0:24:45, 0:25:02]: And uh just for point of clarification, Mr. Thomas, um, are we asking for this to be for all three of the open positions for the arts, landscape or design? Um, well two actually, um for the arts and landscape and design positions? [0:25:03, 0:25:04]: Uh I would say yes. [0:25:06, 0:25:06]: Okay. [0:25:07, 0:25:14]: Well arts and landscape is already um within Henry County. Stockbridge, but within Henry County. [0:25:14, 0:25:16]: And then um the [0:25:16, 0:25:18]: Business outside of the [0:25:19, 0:25:26]: City um limits. Is that what you're adding to that? You're adding the city one uh I mean the business position to. [0:25:28, 0:25:41]: So we're asking to add the third, which is a business owner outside of the Main Street district to extend for the entire county of Henry, opposed to just the city of Stockbridge. Is that correct? [0:25:44, 0:25:51]: I I I have I have a question in reference to that i i before we go forward. Yes. That's outside the city, correct? [0:25:52, 0:26:02]: Correct. So that's what we're trying to confirm. Are we living outside the city? Or are we extending just beyond the city? Are we now extending to the entire county for the third position? [0:26:02, 0:26:11]: Because um Miss Braggs just stated that the arts and landscape and design positions are already the entire county. Is that correct? [0:26:12, 0:26:17]: That is correct. Now the business owner outside of the um city limits [0:26:17, 0:26:23]: has not been I mean the business owner position has not been um difficult to feel. [0:26:23, 0:26:25]: Um being with it [0:26:25, 0:26:30]: Because we have so many businesses that are within the city limits. So that one is not so narrow. [0:26:31, 0:26:34]: So that one doesn't necessarily need to be changed. [0:26:34, 0:26:36]: It is just the [0:26:36, 0:26:40]: Two very narrow um positions. [0:26:40, 0:26:50]: um that need that extra that um I guess additional allowance and that would be the landscape which already the architect which already has that. [0:26:51, 0:26:52]: Um expansión [0:26:53, 0:26:57]: The only one that I feel needs to have that additional expansion. [0:26:57, 0:27:02]: would be the arts organization and that is because it is so narrow. [0:27:02, 0:27:03]: The business of [0:27:03, 0:27:08]: owner um outside of the Main Street district. That one is not [0:27:08, 0:27:11]: so much of a challenge because that one is more broad. [0:27:11, 0:27:20]: So it's only for the arts representative that we're asking that the bylaws be amended to extend to in to the entire county of Henry. [0:27:20, 0:27:29]: Yes, that would be um my recommendation with the you know, preference with a s stock bridge within here unincorporated stock bridge. [0:27:29, 0:27:30]: Um [0:27:31, 0:27:33]: So that would mean Henry County. [0:27:33, 0:27:41]: Okay, so we yield back to you, um, Mr. Thomas, to see if you would like to um amend your motion. [0:27:42, 0:27:44]: Yes, for for clarification. [0:27:44, 0:27:48]: Um I will restate the motion and [0:27:48, 0:27:51]: Uh I move that we [0:27:53, 0:27:54]: uh legislate [0:27:55, 0:27:57]: The bylaws [0:27:57, 0:28:12]: to allow the Main Street program to extend membership to uh an arts organization outside of the the city limits. And if if I may just for clarity, um [0:28:13, 0:28:14]: Uh [0:28:14, 0:28:15]: The [0:28:15, 0:28:16]: Business. [0:28:17, 0:28:28]: that's inside the city is is not in involved in that. And I think Mrs. Bragg clarified about the landscape and so yes, only for the arts organization. [0:28:29, 0:28:31]: Thank you, sir. Do we have a second? [0:28:33, 0:28:34]: And yeah. [0:28:35, 0:28:36]: Second of Movie Manager. [0:28:37, 0:28:41]: Thank you. There is a uh a point of yes, Mr. Horton. [0:28:41, 0:28:45]: May I may I also ask that we clarify the uh [0:28:45, 0:28:50]: The motion to state that the position is restricted to be within Henry County. [0:28:51, 0:28:52]: It's outside the city limits, but [0:28:53, 0:28:54]: has to be inside Henry County. [0:28:56, 0:28:57]: Yes, sir. [0:28:57, 0:29:04]: And I will I will amend to clarify, um, outside of the city but within Henry County. [0:29:05, 0:29:05]: Thank you. [0:29:08, 0:29:08]: Okay. [0:29:10, 0:29:11]: Any additional discussion? [0:29:13, 0:29:25]: Okay, great. We will uh move on to voting. So if all can be um unmuted if avail if able. Um if not, you can please use the chat function to um [0:29:25, 0:29:27]: Submit your vote. [0:29:27, 0:29:29]: Mr. Firch? [0:29:31, 0:29:32]: Yes. [0:29:32, 0:29:33]: Thank you, sir. [0:29:33, 0:29:35]: Mr. Hopkins? [0:29:35, 0:29:35]: Yes. [0:29:36, 0:29:38]: Thank you, sir. Mr. Horton. [0:29:38, 0:29:40]: Yes. Thank you, sir. [0:29:40, 0:29:43]: I also agree, yes, Miss Reed. [0:29:43, 0:29:52]: Yes. Thank you, ma'am. Miss Richardson? Yes. Thank you, ma'am. Miss Sanders? Yes. Thank you, ma'am. And Mr. Thomas. [0:29:53, 0:29:56]: Yes. Thank you. The motion has carried. Thank you all. [0:29:57, 0:29:59]: Miss Braggs, we um return back to you. [0:30:00, 0:30:03]: Okay, so um with that being said [0:30:03, 0:30:05]: Again, please um [0:30:06, 0:30:09]: explore your networks and um [0:30:10, 0:30:16]: Think about some organizations, arts organizations that um may have someone who would fit. [0:30:17, 0:30:20]: With our um Main Street mission and that [0:30:20, 0:30:26]: you know, again goes the same for the other two positions that are available as well. [0:30:27, 0:30:30]: Okay, as far as new business is a concern. [0:30:30, 0:30:33]: It's interesting that it's the new year. Oh [0:30:33, 0:30:35]: Anika, Mr Yeah, Mr. Thomas. [0:30:36, 0:30:40]: Uh for clarification, um, Mrs. Braggs. [0:30:40, 0:30:41]: Um [0:30:41, 0:30:44]: Would you need to bring this [0:30:45, 0:30:46]: Uh new level [0:30:48, 0:30:54]: Uh oh, he froze. Legislation back to the city council number. I'm sorry, you froze a little bit. What did you say? [0:30:56, 0:30:57]: Um [0:30:58, 0:31:00]: Would you come before the council? [0:31:01, 0:31:17]: to um bring forward this legislation to extend those boundaries, number one. And number two, uh, would you extend the uh invitation back to uh the Eagles Land and Dance Center, uh, Mrs. Gibson. [0:31:18, 0:31:33]: Um yes, sir. I will be bringing this before council. I'll try to have it on the next agenda um for final approval by the city council. And then I will have to um I guess recontact um [0:31:33, 0:31:38]: the uh representative from um the candidate that submitted their paperwork before. [0:31:39, 0:31:41]: and have them reapply. [0:31:41, 0:31:44]: Um under the n once the um if the new [0:31:45, 0:31:47]: Um expansion is approved by Mayor and Council. [0:31:49, 0:31:50]: Also now [0:31:51, 0:31:53]: The meeting on the eleventh [0:31:53, 0:31:57]: It's more of an organizational meeting [0:31:57, 0:31:58]: Um [0:32:00, 0:32:05]: I I probably could amend the agenda to add this. It seemed to be a real [0:32:06, 0:32:08]: short um [0:32:09, 0:32:16]: discussion uh I believe from the council, but it's the desire of the board, if they would like for me to amend the January eleventh. [0:32:17, 0:32:19]: uh agenda to uh include this item. [0:32:20, 0:32:22]: Or would you rather to um [0:32:23, 0:32:26]: carried to the uh work session at the latter part of January. [0:32:28, 0:32:37]: Mr. Thomas, if it's at all possible, we would love for it to be um added to your next possible meeting so that we can open up our um [0:32:37, 0:32:38]: Cool. [0:32:38, 0:32:46]: And hopefully be able to fill these positions as quickly as possible so we can get continue to get our business done. That would be my thought. Anyone else? [0:32:50, 0:32:51]: Um [0:32:53, 0:33:02]: That would be um my request if that is at all possible. I don't know if um what needs to be coordinated with um the city clerk. [0:33:02, 0:33:06]: Or would you do this in the actual meeting as for the amendment? [0:33:07, 0:33:19]: Yeah, I will have to do it. I'll have to do it at the actual meeting. Uh the fact that the um this agenda has been posted already. I will confer with uh a couple of council members and if I have the [0:33:19, 0:33:33]: approval uh to amend the agenda then we'll go forward and I'll communicate that with you but that's all it would take would be um three council members to approve the uh amendment to the agenda and we can go forward. [0:33:33, 0:33:34]: Okay. [0:33:34, 0:33:43]: Um and if it is not um an option, I'm fine with going with the next regularly scheduled meeting. [0:33:43, 0:33:49]: Um because you know, we can get that particular item approved. [0:33:49, 0:33:53]: um before our next meeting. So w whatever is um [0:33:53, 0:33:57]: most workable for you, Mayor Pro Tem, just let me know. [0:33:57, 0:33:59]: Sure will. Thank you. [0:33:59, 0:34:00]: Thank you, sir. [0:34:03, 0:34:15]: Okay, as far as um new business is concerned, um we're at the new year but don't really have um a lot of new business to handle. Um so I'll just move to the updates um [0:34:15, 0:34:16]: Section. [0:34:16, 0:34:21]: of our agenda. Um we have received an update from [0:34:21, 0:34:23]: The city manager with regard to [0:34:24, 0:34:25]: The um [0:34:25, 0:34:32]: amphitheater. So I wanted to um share that with you all. I'm gonna try to share my screen so I can pull [0:34:33, 0:34:36]: um that particular report up. So just give me a moment. [0:34:39, 0:34:48]: While Miss Briars is doing that, just want uh you all to know the record has been re uh amended to reflect that Mr. Willie Hopkins is present. [0:34:49, 0:34:57]: Uh madam chair, I appreciate that. I apologize. I had to take a call from one of my judges. That's the reason why I wasn't present. So I apologize for that. [0:34:57, 0:34:59]: Absolutely not a problem. Thank you. [0:35:03, 0:35:08]: Okay, hold on just a second. It's not doing what I want it to do here. [0:35:17, 0:35:18]: Okay, let's see. [0:35:19, 0:35:22]: Are you all able to see an amphitheater update photo? [0:35:22, 0:35:25]: Yes. Okay, fabulous. [0:35:25, 0:35:28]: Okay, um this is [0:35:29, 0:35:36]: Um an aerial photo of the um amphitheater that was provided to me. [0:35:36, 0:35:38]: by um the um [0:35:39, 0:35:53]: City Manager Mr. Randy Knighton, as you can see, they have um made um quite a few um advances. They have um almost completed the stage. They're um the seating has been [0:35:53, 0:35:54]: Add it to [0:35:55, 0:35:56]: The um [0:35:57, 0:35:57]: site [0:35:58, 0:36:01]: I'm gonna see if I can um move it down a little bit. [0:36:01, 0:36:06]: Um they're moving on schedule and they are set to be completed in May. [0:36:07, 0:36:15]: Um, we expect that the bidding on the improvements to East Atlanta Road and Lee Street um should be um [0:36:16, 0:36:23]: put out within the next 30 days. And so they're moving right along with that. And if you will recall, [0:36:23, 0:36:33]: The um improvements on East Atlanta Road are RSVP recommended improvements. That is adding the um right turn lane. [0:36:34, 0:36:35]: to um [0:36:35, 0:36:36]: They [0:36:36, 0:36:41]: East Atlanta Road and North Henry Boulevard um intersection. [0:36:42, 0:36:49]: That way there'll be two turn lanes on one to go right and then one to go left and then the lane to go straight. [0:36:49, 0:36:49]: Um [0:36:50, 0:36:51]: Is what was [0:36:51, 0:36:51]: Um [0:36:51, 0:36:53]: Recommended in the RSVP. [0:36:54, 0:36:57]: And that is what I think that they are moving forward with and um [0:36:59, 0:37:01]: Mayor Pro Temp Thomas, can you confirm that? [0:37:05, 0:37:07]: Yes, that that is correct. [0:37:07, 0:37:08]: Okay. [0:37:09, 0:37:09]: Um [0:37:10, 0:37:17]: And then here is another um photo that was provided to me where they have actually installed the seating. [0:37:17, 0:37:19]: For the amphitheater. [0:37:19, 0:37:26]: So um as you can see, all of this is um kind of wood grain. Um it's a very beautiful stage and [0:37:26, 0:37:31]: Then they've um in started installing the seating and they have the [0:37:31, 0:37:35]: Um shelters that are here in the upper level. [0:37:35, 0:37:42]: Um so it's moving right along and it it's amazing to go out to the city hall, um [0:37:42, 0:37:47]: parking lot, the rear parking lot, and see this literally coming up out of the ground. [0:37:47, 0:37:48]: Um [0:37:48, 0:37:56]: Mayor Pro Temp Thomas, you have been actively involved in the discussions regarding this particular project. Is there anything that you wanted to add? [0:37:57, 0:38:02]: Uh yes, I'd like to just inform the board that um I have [0:38:03, 0:38:06]: um add it and legislated um [0:38:07, 0:38:09]: A Uber Lyft [0:38:10, 0:38:11]: uh component [0:38:12, 0:38:25]: uh to the campus uh that would allow you know for that transportation mode uh to be added to the landscape. So and of course, you know, we understand that [0:38:25, 0:38:30]: uh if if a participant to the concert do not want to [0:38:31, 0:38:35]: drive themselves because we do realize that it's gonna be a lot of traffic. [0:38:35, 0:38:37]: Park and his premium [0:38:37, 0:38:43]: And so and we all understand that that's a means of transportation that we're all accustomed to. So [0:38:43, 0:39:03]: Um the city manager is going to add that to the task order to Falcon Design to make sure that that is uh located uh within the landscape of the amphitheater to um you know to include that opportunity for those that uh [0:39:03, 0:39:06]: wish not to drive but will be able to um [0:39:07, 0:39:12]: come in or, you know, come or leave, you know, by those um transportation means. [0:39:14, 0:39:20]: Um, I think that that's gonna be a really worthwhile addition because I think that um [0:39:21, 0:39:28]: In light of um some of the concerns that um Main Street has had with regard to parking. [0:39:28, 0:39:33]: The addition of a designated Uber lift ride share area. [0:39:34, 0:39:37]: is going to um help mitigate [0:39:37, 0:39:44]: um some of that um parking concern. So um thank you for proposing that and [0:39:44, 0:39:47]: Um, making that um something that [0:39:47, 0:39:53]: the mayor and council paid attention to because I don't think that that's something that was necessarily comp contemplated. [0:39:54, 0:40:00]: um in the original design and um that I think is gonna be a very welcomed addition. [0:40:01, 0:40:02]: to the overall um [0:40:03, 0:40:06]: project. So thank you for doing that. [0:40:06, 0:40:08]: And if I and if I may add [0:40:10, 0:40:13]: Yeah. And if I may add [0:40:13, 0:40:19]: Uh, even though uh the downtown development may be long range. [0:40:19, 0:40:35]: But just imagine um if you had restaurants and other type of uh businesses uh on Burke Street or uh ML King. So, you know, we we're talking about more of a a walking campus per se. So [0:40:36, 0:40:42]: After the amphitheater show, someone may just want to [0:40:42, 0:41:02]: walk over and and partake in in a restaurant or in other form of entertainment. So that whole ability to be able to get in and out of downtown, I I think that is a very key as you sort of alluded to, Mrs. Brax. I just want to share that uh because this is what we're, you know, looking for is a walkable [0:41:02, 0:41:06]: uh entertainment um you know downtown. [0:41:06, 0:41:07]: Right. [0:41:09, 0:41:11]: Mr. Hopkins, did you still have a comment? [0:41:11, 0:41:18]: I do. Uh Kira, can you can you share your screen back to the first photo? I just have a question, just clarity. [0:41:19, 0:41:21]: Hold on just a second. [0:41:30, 0:41:31]: Okay. Yes. [0:41:31, 0:41:40]: The area just wanna make sure I'm I'm just clear on how the layout is gonna be from where the retention pond is. I I I wanna say a real retention here. [0:41:41, 0:41:48]: Would that be just is that just gonna be parking or just gonna be drive-through? Or what is that gonna be in that section? I just wanna make sure I'm clear on that. [0:41:49, 0:41:56]: Um, I think that that is going to be um more of a um kind of trail and natural [0:41:56, 0:42:16]: landscaped area. But Mayor Pro Tem, if you could um speak to that again, you have been more involved with those discussions on a regular basis and might be able to explain that area further. But I'm thinking that this is the area that I show [0:42:16, 0:42:20]: [2541.0, 2545.9]: Um that there would be a walking trail, water feature, and some other um [0:42:26, 0:42:30]: like landscape terraced and that sort of thing. But um Mayor Pro Tem, if you would. [0:42:31, 0:42:33]: That that is correct. Um [0:42:34, 0:42:37]: Right now it's a design for three ponds. [0:42:37, 0:42:40]: Uh and I guess if you were standing in the [0:42:41, 0:42:47]: old parking lot, it will and looking down it would so somewhat be to your [0:42:47, 0:42:49]: Left um [0:42:50, 0:42:58]: But that that is correct. So those things that you just described, Mrs. Braggs, uh, those are features that will be uh included in this. [0:42:59, 0:43:02]: Um, I did receive a um [0:43:03, 0:43:06]: Note from Mr. Knighton [0:43:06, 0:43:08]: Who is um [0:43:08, 0:43:11]: I guess observing the meeting, um [0:43:12, 0:43:18]: remotely as well. He says that um there's going to be mostly parking in that area as well. [0:43:19, 0:43:19]: Okay. [0:43:20, 0:43:20]: Yes. [0:43:21, 0:43:27]: That is where uh the parking is scheduled on that on the on the back end somewhat of the of the amphitheater. [0:43:28, 0:43:30]: On the um Lee Street. [0:43:32, 0:43:33]: Okay. [0:43:34, 0:43:35]: Wait, let me go back to [0:43:40, 0:43:40]: Mm-hmm. [0:43:40, 0:43:41]: Yeah. [0:43:41, 0:43:42]: Okay. [0:43:51, 0:43:54]: Okay. Were there any other questions with regard to that? [0:43:57, 0:43:58]: Mm-hmm. [0:43:58, 0:44:18]: Can I just make a comment? Thank you, Mr. Thomas, for ensuring that this part of the population that is definitely now thinking is was incorporated. I'm excited to hear that there would be a designated area because most concert goers are going to be utilizing those features. [0:44:18, 0:44:26]: And like you said, to make it walkable and to go from a restaurant and if they're unable to drive, know that they can still get home. So [0:44:26, 0:44:28]: Excellent. Thank you. [0:44:28, 0:44:29]: Yes, thank you. [0:44:32, 0:44:32]: Okay. [0:44:33, 0:44:34]: Um [0:44:34, 0:44:39]: If there are no other questions with regard to that, um I'll move on to our um [0:44:40, 0:45:00]: Alleyway project or downtown projects, the Alleyway Project, 114 MLK and the Ted Strickland Building. Um when I left you all at the last meeting, I had um told you all that we had um met with the designers um with regard to 114 and um [0:45:00, 0:45:00]: Um [0:45:00, 0:45:02]: The Ted Strickland building. [0:45:02, 0:45:03]: Um [0:45:04, 0:45:12]: Because of the holiday and that sort of thing, we haven't had um much more progress on those two particular projects other than the um [0:45:12, 0:45:23]: prices um we're getting numbers on uh what that construction cost is going to be so that that can be um submitted to the city manager and um [0:45:24, 0:45:33]: um the proper approvals can be obtained with regard to those two projects so that we can move those forward and I will let you know as soon as uh we have [0:45:34, 0:45:36]: received approvals for the pricing on that. [0:45:37, 0:45:37]: Um [0:45:38, 0:45:46]: Um some budgets have been established um by mayor and council and by the city manager with regard to those two projects individually. [0:45:46, 0:45:52]: So um we'll try to make sure that um the number we're tr we are trying to make sure. [0:45:52, 0:45:55]: that the numbers fall within those um [0:45:55, 0:45:59]: those parameters and um kind of going back and forth with [0:45:59, 0:46:00]: They um [0:46:01, 0:46:04]: with regard to the Ted Strickland going back and forth a little bit with [0:46:05, 0:46:06]: Our um [0:46:06, 0:46:10]: space designer to try to make sure that we're staying within that budget. [0:46:11, 0:46:17]: And then also um with one fourteen MLK, that particular item is going to have to go out to bid. [0:46:17, 0:46:20]: We have found um as I shared with you. [0:46:20, 0:46:21]: Um [0:46:21, 0:46:24]: A meeting ago at our last meeting, we have found [0:46:25, 0:46:30]: Um several companies, um general contracting companies that will be able to [0:46:30, 0:46:31]: Do this work. [0:46:32, 0:46:34]: And as I showed you in one of our um [0:46:35, 0:46:36]: Updates. [0:46:36, 0:46:42]: The the real problem issue is the roof and the roof is going to be very expensive to [0:46:42, 0:46:46]: Replace, repair, well, actually repair and then replace. [0:46:46, 0:46:50]: So we're kind of going back and forth trying to make sure that [0:46:51, 0:46:53]: А ви мост. [0:46:54, 0:46:56]: А кес кост ефективно присінь. [0:46:56, 0:47:01]: for that particular part of the project and then um move on to the interiors. [0:47:02, 0:47:13]: The alleyway project is still in the engineering phase. Um, as I told you at our last meeting, they had just started that engineering phase, which it from what I've been told. [0:47:13, 0:47:15]: Із амтел фаз. [0:47:16, 0:47:20]: And um I have not received an update with regard to where we stand. [0:47:21, 0:47:27]: on that particular project other than it's in the engineering phase. So I'm hoping to with the new year. [0:47:27, 0:47:38]: and all the vacations and everything being completed over the holidays, I should be able to get um some more updated information on that and be able to share that with you at our next meeting. [0:47:38, 0:47:41]: Um with regard to our downtown mural. [0:47:42, 0:47:46]: I have a meeting with our artist John Christian today at two o'clock. So [0:47:47, 0:47:47]: Um [0:47:47, 0:47:49]: І газ um [0:47:49, 0:47:56]: Hopefully been working on the some design concepts that I'll be able to share with you all. He's gonna give me an update. [0:47:56, 0:48:03]: Um, as we have discussed in prior meetings, um due to COVID, his schedule has been backed up. [0:48:03, 0:48:04]: Um [0:48:04, 0:48:15]: with some other projects that were um in the um queue before us. So we're just he's just starting to normalize his particular schedule and [0:48:15, 0:48:22]: We're looking forward to having this mural installed as soon as possible. So I'll give you more update after I've spoken with him. [0:48:23, 0:48:24]: This afternoon [0:48:24, 0:48:36]: And then also you all may be um interested in what's going on with the um Department of Natural Resources grants that we recently applied for with regard to [0:48:37, 0:48:46]: Um the trail system, um, improving the trail system that leads from the Reeves Creek Trailhead into the downtown area. [0:48:46, 0:48:49]: А в кріатина тру гейтвей, вакін гейтвей. [0:48:49, 0:48:52]: From Rock Quarry Road into the downtown area. [0:48:53, 0:48:57]: Um both of those grants we should be hearing whether we have made um [0:48:57, 0:49:08]: the um cut to move forward with um submitting a more detailed grant. The if you will recall when I discussed these grants, I think it was in October. [0:49:08, 0:49:22]: there is a process where you submit kind of a pre-application to see if your project is um one that will be considered to move forward. So it's almost like a finalist and semifinalist type situation. [0:49:22, 0:49:23]: So um [0:49:24, 0:49:30]: This is the month that they have said that we would be hearing back. I think the date is January fifteenth or something like that. [0:49:31, 0:49:35]: They're supposed to be notif by January fifteenth, they're supposed to be notifying [0:49:35, 0:49:42]: all of the um candidates that are going to be invited to move forward. So keep your fingers crossed. [0:49:43, 0:49:48]: Um that we will be one of the um cities that has been selected to move forward. [0:49:48, 0:49:55]: uh with that particular grant process because that is over three million dollars in grant funds that we are trying to obtain. [0:49:55, 0:49:58]: Um for improvement of our trail system. So [0:49:58, 0:50:00]: Let's keep our fingers crossed on that one. [0:50:01, 0:50:01]: Um [0:50:03, 0:50:20]: And then also I just wanted to um make mention of um the its accreditation time for all main streets across the state of Georgia. So that is what I am diligently working on, making sure that all of our reports and um [0:50:20, 0:50:28]: the um information that I'm supposed to submit to the state to the State Department of Community Affairs is um [0:50:28, 0:50:32]: all in um accordance with their guidelines. So that's what I'm [0:50:33, 0:50:37]: working on now and is occupying the most of my time and [0:50:37, 0:50:44]: You know, since our um establishment we have made um top scores on that. So again [0:50:44, 0:50:48]: Let's keep our fingers crossed and um hope that we again. [0:50:48, 0:50:54]: um our approved for accreditation get a high score on what we have submitted. I'm a little nervous because our programming [0:50:55, 0:50:58]: hasn't been what it has been in the past, but I think that [0:50:59, 0:51:00]: The state um [0:51:01, 0:51:03]: Um office will be [0:51:03, 0:51:05]: Giving some people some grace. [0:51:05, 0:51:13]: with regard to um meeting all of the guidelines that have been put in place because of the COVID situation and the restrictions. [0:51:13, 0:51:20]: that have been placed upon all programs with regard to how they can um deliver programming and require programming. [0:51:20, 0:51:23]: to um their constituents so [0:51:24, 0:51:26]: Um, just keep your fingers crossed on that. [0:51:26, 0:51:30]: And that's all that I had with regard to um updates. [0:51:31, 0:51:37]: Um so I can hand it back over to you, um, Miss Potts, if there are no questions for me. [0:51:39, 0:51:42]: Are there any questions for our program director? [0:51:48, 0:51:58]: Right. Um thank you so much, Miss Brax, for your information. Uh at this time, um, is there a DDA report? [0:52:02, 0:52:03]: Well, um [0:52:04, 0:52:05]: Yes. [0:52:06, 0:52:14]: Um we uh have a new chairman. Our chairman Renee resigned, and so we have a new chairman now and um [0:52:15, 0:52:17]: Very excited about that. Um [0:52:19, 0:52:20]: Who is it? [0:52:21, 0:52:24]: L I am literally drawing a blank. I have a playing part. [0:52:24, 0:52:26]: It's Greg's partner. Greg. [0:52:26, 0:52:28]: I'm sorry, I'm so embarrassed. I don't [0:52:29, 0:52:38]: It's not me, it's Roger. Yes, I said it's your partner. I was like, wait a minute, I have like literally drawn a blank'cause about two thoughts ahead of myself. Yes, it's Roger. Oh my gosh. [0:52:39, 0:52:43]: So Roger Custon. Roger Custon, yes. Oh Jesus. Yes. He [0:52:44, 0:52:46]: He's our new chairman and um [0:52:47, 0:52:54]: So we're excited about that. Congratulations to him. Yeah. And we had an opening on the board, uh [0:52:55, 0:52:57]: I haven't heard a we field it yet. I uh [0:52:57, 0:53:07]: You all did um there's a um you all did fill that position at the last um city council meeting. Um the person is um [0:53:07, 0:53:09]: Shamiqua King [0:53:09, 0:53:11]: Does that sound familiar to you? [0:53:11, 0:53:12]: That is correct. [0:53:13, 0:53:18]: Okay, awesome, awesome, awesome. So we have a new boardman. So now we, you know, have a fully staffed board. [0:53:19, 0:53:21]: Um and she's been sworn in. [0:53:22, 0:53:26]: Nice. I missed that. I think a painting. Okay, anyway, so that's nice. [0:53:27, 0:53:29]: Yeah, I've been on vacation, I'm sorry. [0:53:29, 0:53:40]: Um and then also um we did I believe we're that we're done with that real estate deal. I'm not really sure all the the last administrative [0:53:40, 0:53:42]: parts that has to take place but um [0:53:42, 0:53:45]: As far as I know it is a done deal and just uh [0:53:46, 0:53:47]: technicalities on the back end, but [0:53:50, 0:54:00]: So I think that's it. And our next meeting, we meet on the third Tuesday, 6 PM. Um, I will make sure that everyone has that public link as well. I think that's the 19th. [0:54:00, 0:54:01]: Um [0:54:01, 0:54:04]: So I make sure that public link goes out in case anyone wants to join. [0:54:05, 0:54:07]: It's the eighteenth, I think. [0:54:07, 0:54:08]: Is it eighteen? [0:54:08, 0:54:09]: Yes, I think so. [0:54:11, 0:54:18]: Right. Okay. Whatever that Tuesday is. Oh no, Tuesday's the nineteenth. You're right. I'm sorry. Okay. [0:54:20, 0:54:23]: We're getting back. I'm not officially back to work until Monday, but [0:54:23, 0:54:24]: Yeah. [0:54:24, 0:54:27]: Okay, I understand. [0:54:27, 0:54:33]: I'm a little rusty today. We all understand. Thank you so much for your report. [0:54:34, 0:54:36]: Are there any questions for Miss Richardson? [0:54:39, 0:54:46]: All right. Thank you again. Um hearing now. We will move on. Um I do believe that um [0:54:46, 0:55:06]: uh the next area of our meeting are announcements and concerns. Um I do believe that we have on our line, um I'm sorry, in our meeting, um a Mr. Alan Peterson. Um I would love to just let you guys know that [0:55:06, 0:55:26]: Mr. Peterson is our new economic development director for the city of Stockbridge. That's a position that we've been needing to fill as far as I have been told. We're very excited that he is on uh participating in our meeting today. I'm not sure if he's able to just [0:55:26, 0:55:40]: say hello or tell us a little bit about himself. If not, we totally respect it, but we did want the board to know that that position has been filled. And I'm sure if not today, we'll have an opportunity to meet Mr. Peterson. [0:55:41, 0:55:45]: Um and I apologize. I thought that um [0:55:46, 0:55:52]: Both um Mr Knighton, our city manager, and Mr. Peterson had um received uh um [0:55:53, 0:56:00]: a panelist invitation like you all did so that they would be able to be seen on this particular meeting. [0:56:00, 0:56:01]: But um for [0:56:02, 0:56:06]: Whatever reason it didn't go through. I tried to send it um [0:56:06, 0:56:11]: twice. So I do apologize to you all and apologize to them. [0:56:11, 0:56:16]: as well for not being able to be as actively um presented with this meeting. [0:56:17, 0:56:19]: Um but we will make sure. [0:56:19, 0:56:22]: That Mr. Peterson um and Mr. Knighton [0:56:22, 0:56:26]: Um, if it is their pleasure to be a part of our next meeting. [0:56:26, 0:56:30]: I'll send them those make sure that they get those invitations um [0:56:30, 0:56:35]: And confirm that they have been received and that they are able to log in to our meeting. [0:56:36, 0:56:37]: But I do um [0:56:38, 0:56:42]: Welcome, Mr. Пітерсон. I have had the opportunity to meet with him. [0:56:43, 0:56:44]: And I think that um [0:56:45, 0:56:47]: He is going to definitely be [0:56:47, 0:56:50]: Um o wonderful resource for. [0:56:51, 0:56:51]: The um [0:56:52, 0:57:06]: Stockbridge Main Street program for our advisory board and for the city of Stockbridge as a whole. So I'm very excited for you all to get a chance to meet to meet him face to face. So hopefully we'll be able to do that at our next meeting. [0:57:07, 0:57:07]: Um [0:57:08, 0:57:15]: And if I may, Miss Potts, I'd like to go on and um give an another announcement that I'm very excited about. [0:57:15, 0:57:16]: Um [0:57:16, 0:57:28]: We are going to be celebrating an anniversary with the Main Street program. Um, our program received its accreditation on January twenty-sixth, twenty sixteen. [0:57:28, 0:57:37]: So uh we're going to be um celebrating our five year birthday. We're five years old, kindergartners, yay. [0:57:37, 0:57:40]: So I'm very excited. Um [0:57:41, 0:57:51]: to announce that to everyone and uh remind everyone um where we started and where we've come. It's it's been a wonderful, wonderful [0:57:51, 0:57:56]: journey, it's had its challenges, but I just think all of you [0:57:56, 0:58:02]: Especially those of you who have been here since day one. Um, you have really, really been um [0:58:03, 0:58:16]: true warriors with regard to um helping us to get this program established. And for everyone who has um joined us along the journey, thank you for your dedication and your [0:58:16, 0:58:16]: Um [0:58:17, 0:58:19]: True belief in our mission and [0:58:20, 0:58:26]: making not just the downtown better, but the city of Stockbridge a better place to live, work. [0:58:26, 0:58:27]: And play. [0:58:27, 0:58:34]: So thank you so much. I really appreciate all of you. And um say happy birthday to yourselves. [0:58:34, 0:58:35]: Um [0:58:36, 0:58:52]: Anika mentioned that um both um Shamari Um Firch and Mildred Reed were re reinstated um to the advisory board. I just wanted to again thank them for recommitting themselves to the Main Street Advisory Board. They were sworn in. [0:58:52, 0:58:55]: On um where was it the sixth, Anika? [0:58:56, 0:59:04]: Um yes. So um thank you both for um continuing your service with the Main Street Advisory Board. [0:59:05, 0:59:15]: And um you all may have noted that um Lisa's not here. She had to take a personal day. Um she um her mother had to have some um surgery, so [0:59:15, 0:59:25]: Well, I guess I hope she doesn't mind me saying that. But um I just wanted everyone to have their thoughts and prayers with her. Um, I don't think it was anything serious, but um [0:59:25, 0:59:31]: I'm just thinking about her and I hope you all are will be thinking about her as well and her family. [0:59:31, 0:59:38]: And um that's all that I had as far as announcements. Um I don't know if anyone else has anything that they would like to share. [0:59:40, 0:59:42]: Madam President, may I? [0:59:43, 0:59:44]: Yes, Mr Hopkins. [0:59:44, 0:59:50]: All right. Uh first I'd like to say as the doors continue to open to twenty twenty one for us. [0:59:50, 0:59:53]: I just want to recommit myself to this board. [0:59:54, 0:59:56]: And recommit myself to the council. [0:59:56, 1:00:02]: And to the city, the visionaries of this city to let you guys know that there's anything that I can do. [1:00:02, 1:00:16]: Um please don't hesitate, reach out to me. And I look forward to a prosperous year for us this year. Hard work. We got loads to lift, and I know we can do it. And I want to thank Councilman Thomas for his endeavors in 20 [1:00:16, 1:00:17]: What is it [1:00:17, 1:00:19]: As he impart us with the wisdom. [1:00:20, 1:00:23]: Uh, through the council, being net liaison through the council, I thank him. [1:00:24, 1:00:30]: For guiding us, leading us, and uh continue to put us on the right tracks to continue to do the things that we need to do. [1:00:30, 1:00:38]: To support the city, support the council, the city manager, and all the powers to be in this city. And Kira and Lisa, I just wanna say to you guys. [1:00:39, 1:00:40]: Uh outstanding leadership. [1:00:41, 1:00:44]: The city's blessed to have two individuals such as you guys on board. [1:00:44, 1:00:51]: And uh if there's anything we can do to support you in our endeavors, I'm sure I echo this to the board and we're here for you. [1:00:51, 1:00:52]: And we're gonna make [1:00:52, 1:00:56]: the city of Stockbridge, the best on this side of heaven. So thank you again. [1:00:56, 1:00:58]: Thank you. Thank you so much. [1:01:01, 1:01:18]: Mr. Hopkins, I actually had the same thoughts in my mind. Renewal was what I wrote on the renewal. It was a big word. But I have no need to add because I echo everything you said with with with uh loud claps behind it. So thank you for speaking for us. [1:01:18, 1:01:19]: Thank you, thank you. [1:01:22, 1:01:42]: Okay. All right. Well, hearing uh no additional needs for uh announcements or uh concerns, um I would love for us to uh close out our meeting uh at the time uh exactly an hour. Awesome, uh 10 oh five. Uh can I please have someone present a [1:01:42, 1:01:43]: A motion to do so. [1:01:45, 1:01:47]: Madam Chair, I move that we adjourn the meaning that [1:01:48, 1:01:52]: Ten oh, what'd you say? Ten oh nine? Ten oh five. [1:01:52, 1:01:55]: Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. So we have a second. [1:01:57, 1:01:57]: A circle [1:01:58, 1:02:09]: Thank you, Mr. Thomas. Uh we will at this time just use our hands to acknowledge that we are in favor of adjourning the meeting. Please raise your hand or type in the chat if necessary. [1:02:09, 1:02:13]: I see all hands. Um Miss Sanders. [1:02:16, 1:02:26]: has said she would like to adjourn as well. With that said, we wish you all a wonderful weekend. Please stay well, stay happy, and we will see you in about a month. [1:02:27, 1:02:30]: Take care, everyone. Bye, everyone. Thank you so much. [1:02:42, 1:02:43]:
  • 2020-12-29 · City Council · Transcript · Special Called Meeting

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    --- title: Special Called Meeting date: 2020-12-29 source: 2020-12-29_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:04]: a special call meeting uh for december twenty ninth of twenty twenty. [0:00:05, 0:00:08]: And uh on that note, Mr Knighton. [0:00:09, 0:00:11]: Could you please get an invocation? [0:00:13, 0:00:16]: Sure. Uh thank you, Mayor and Council. Good evening to everyone. [0:00:17, 0:00:17]: Let us pray. [0:00:18, 0:00:23]: Most gracious God, we are indeed thankful to be in your presence this evening. [0:00:23, 0:00:28]: We're thankful for the many blessings that we enjoy during this season. [0:00:28, 0:00:32]: And it reminds us, God, of your presence with us. We thank you for [0:00:33, 0:00:36]: Celebrating this time of a savior being born. [0:00:37, 0:00:39]: And the opportunity God that [0:00:40, 0:00:43]: Presents itself to us as we stand on the threshold. [0:00:44, 0:00:46]: Of twenty twenty one. [0:00:46, 0:00:49]: We thank you for your blessings of twenty twenty. [0:00:49, 0:00:52]: Even though it has been unprecedented and challenging. [0:00:52, 0:00:55]: We know that you have been with us. We pray for those. [0:00:55, 0:00:58]: who have been impacted and affected by COVID nineteen. [0:00:59, 0:01:01]: We pray health, healing, and comfort. [0:01:02, 0:01:03]: And we pray, God, as we [0:01:04, 0:01:09]: move toward twenty twenty one that we will have a renewed spirit of service. [0:01:09, 0:01:13]: We pray your blessing upon this council who have extended themselves. [0:01:14, 0:01:15]: And public service. [0:01:16, 0:01:17]: Bless their homes. [0:01:18, 0:01:21]: uh bless them individually and collectively. [0:01:22, 0:01:23]: We pray for your wisdom. [0:01:23, 0:01:26]: Your blessing upon this meeting this evening. [0:01:26, 0:01:28]: and all who are present. [0:01:28, 0:01:31]: In the name of your Son, Jesus Christ, our Savior. [0:01:32, 0:01:32]: Amen. [0:01:33, 0:01:34]: Amen. [0:01:35, 0:01:38]: Okay, please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:01:38, 0:01:40]: Well [0:01:42, 0:01:58]: Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. Which is stands one nation, one nation, under God, indivisible, liberty and justice. Liberty and Justice Pro. [0:02:00, 0:02:00]: Alrighty. [0:02:02, 0:02:04]: Madam Clerk, I need a um [0:02:05, 0:02:06]: Roll call. [0:02:08, 0:02:09]: Mayor Ford. [0:02:12, 0:02:13]: Mir Pro Tem Thomas. [0:02:14, 0:02:14]: Project. [0:02:16, 0:02:18]: Councilman Alexander. [0:02:18, 0:02:18]: President [0:02:19, 0:02:20]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:02:21, 0:02:21]: Present. [0:02:22, 0:02:23]: Councilman Blount. [0:02:30, 0:02:34]: Let the record reflect Councilman Councilman Blount is not in attendance. [0:02:35, 0:02:36]: And Catholic Gantt. [0:02:39, 0:02:40]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:02:40, 0:02:48]: Thank you, appreciate that. Council, I want you to recognize remember that this is a special call meeting. Uh, so I need the adoption to the agenda, please. [0:02:52, 0:02:55]: Yes ma'am. Okay, is there a second? [0:02:55, 0:02:59]: A second. Thank you very much. Hall in flavor, please indicate. [0:03:01, 0:03:02]: Thank you, appreciate it. [0:03:03, 0:03:03]: Appreciate that. [0:03:04, 0:03:16]: Okay, on that note, we have an executive session and we have to go to the executive session. And uh I just made note that uh Mr. Wilson uh is going to be with us in the executive session. I kind of wonder whether or not he has the right contact. [0:03:17, 0:03:37]: or be able to join us in a Zeke session to talk about the SDS agreement. She is included on the uh invitation. Okay, so otherwise when we go in a Zegl session, there'll be another email to receive uh that you need to click on and uh so we can be in a Zegula session. I'll we'll give it a few minutes. Uh I would hope that we can probably do this within a five minute period [0:03:37, 0:03:39]: period or so it will be in a Zegl session. [0:03:40, 0:03:44]: So we need a motion. Okay. We need a motion, Mr. Williams. Uh right, correct? [0:03:45, 0:03:47]: They're going to second session. I need a motion, please. Yes, sir. [0:03:49, 0:03:53]: Is there a motion to go to Zegl session? For for litigation, personnel, real estate. [0:03:53, 0:03:53]: Right. [0:03:55, 0:03:58]: Um executive session for litigation personnel or real estate. [0:03:59, 0:04:00]: Is there a second? [0:04:01, 0:04:02]: Is there a second? [0:04:04, 0:04:08]: I second. Thank you very much. All in favor, please indicate. [0:04:09, 0:04:16]: All right, we'll we'll go into Zagle session, folks. I'll see you in the zagless session. Thank you. This Vanessa send us that additional information, please. [0:04:18, 0:04:19]: I don't know why. [0:04:25, 0:04:25]: [293.3, 293.8]: Right. [0:04:54, 0:04:58]: Please close your current z current Zoom session. Mr. Knighton and Councilman Alzenda. [0:04:59, 0:05:01]: You just should be able to join via email. [0:05:27, 0:05:30]: Okay. All in favor, please indicate. [0:05:32, 0:05:36]: Okay. It's approved. Okay. I need a motion to reconvene a special call meeting, please. [0:05:37, 0:05:38]: Some more. [0:05:38, 0:05:39]: So there's it. [0:05:40, 0:05:43]: All right. Gantt and Alexander, all favor, please indicate. [0:05:45, 0:05:53]: Okay, thank you. Fantastic announcements. All right. We have a couple of different issues that we need to bring forward to the public. And I'll start with Mr. Williams, please. [0:05:55, 0:06:02]: Mr. Mayor, based on the discussion in executive session, a motion would be in order to approve the form of the purchase and sale agreement. [0:06:03, 0:06:08]: uh for the sale of certain property by the downtown development authority. [0:06:09, 0:06:18]: Okay, is there's who who was there someone can some move is there second? Mr Mr. Blount seconds that uh all in favor please indicate. [0:06:19, 0:06:27]: Okay. Oh everything it's unanimous. Okay. Thank you very much, Council. Uh Mayor Potem Thomas, you have uh a motion, right, sir. [0:06:27, 0:06:42]: Yes, uh thank you, Mayor and Council. Uh with the vacancy on the downtown development authority board, uh it has been voted that we replace that uh position with Mrs. [0:06:42, 0:06:46]: Uh Samika Saquita King. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: I like to all [0:06:50, 0:07:10]: Also state from her application that uh she is a taxpayer, she's a homeowner and a taxpayer, and she feels that she is she has a vested interest in the uh development of the city of Stockbridge. She is a mother of four. Um she will love to see the uh downtown Stark Bridge flourish. And with that, I move. [0:07:10, 0:07:15]: that we accept uh Mrs. Sequika Sir [0:07:15, 0:07:16]: We do. [0:07:16, 0:07:19]: Sir Sir Quitter King. [0:07:19, 0:07:24]: as the replacement uh on the downtown development authority. I said [0:07:24, 0:07:27]: Ms. Gantt seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [0:07:28, 0:07:38]: Okay. Okay. We got four. Four. Okay. Four four zero one. We got it passed. Okay. And uh Miss Holiday, please. [0:07:40, 0:07:46]: Yes, Mayor. A motion would be in order to approve the SDS settlement agreement and agreements. [0:07:47, 0:07:57]: and the forms as presented by the city to the county, subject to final review and approval by the city manager and city attorney. [0:07:57, 0:07:58]: So move. [0:07:59, 0:08:05]: Ms. Alexander, so moved. There's a second. I second. There you go. Ms. Gantt seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [0:08:06, 0:08:11]: Fantastic. Four zero. It passes. Okay. Now I need a motion to end our special call meeting. [0:08:12, 0:08:13]: Sol. [0:08:13, 0:08:16]: Oh okay, I'll give it to Ms. Alexander and Ms. Gantt you want to second that? [0:08:16, 0:08:19]: I second that. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:08:21, 0:08:29]: All right. We're we're adjourned. Happy holidays, everybody. Be safe. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Good night.
  • 2020-12-22 · City Council · Transcript · Work Session Meeting Via Zoom

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    --- title: December 22 2020 Work Session Meeting Via Zoom date: 2020-12-22 source: 2020-12-22_December_22_2020_Work_Session_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:00:02, 0:00:06]: So if we can, okay, I says we I see the recording there. All right. [0:00:15, 0:00:17]: And I'm assuming that'd be on Facebook Live as well. [0:00:20, 0:00:25]: Uh let me double check. So I was told to stream from the from the website, but you're saying do it on Facebook Live now? [0:00:26, 0:00:28]: Um we're streaming through [0:00:29, 0:00:31]: No, we're streaming through the civic. [0:00:31, 0:00:35]: Which is on our website, but you're able to go to Zoom. [0:00:35, 0:00:36]: On Facebook. [0:00:37, 0:00:37]: To do that. [0:00:38, 0:00:39]: Okay. [0:00:47, 0:00:49]: Okay, so I actually have six o'clock. [0:00:49, 0:00:54]: So um on that note, I'd like to call this uh council work session. [0:00:55, 0:00:59]: Which is December twenty second of uh twenty twenty, which is our last one for the calendar year. [0:01:00, 0:01:02]: And happy holidays, everybody. [0:01:02, 0:01:04]: And uh like to call the meeting to order. [0:01:05, 0:01:10]: And um Miss Holiday, could you um do a roll call, please? [0:01:13, 0:01:15]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:01:16, 0:01:17]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:01:19, 0:01:20]: President. [0:01:21, 0:01:22]: Present. Council. [0:01:23, 0:01:24]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:01:28, 0:01:33]: Let the record reflect Councilwoman Gantt is not in attendance. Councilman Alexander. [0:01:34, 0:01:34]: President. [0:01:36, 0:01:37]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:01:38, 0:01:38]: It's it [0:01:39, 0:01:40]: And Councilman Blind. [0:01:41, 0:01:41]: President. [0:01:42, 0:01:44]: Therefore, do you have a quorum? [0:01:44, 0:01:45]: Thank you, man. [0:01:45, 0:01:47]: Councilman Alexander, invocation, please. [0:01:48, 0:01:49]: Uh thank you, Mayor. [0:01:50, 0:01:52]: Will everyone bow your heads, please? [0:01:53, 0:01:55]: Lord who thought in heaven. [0:01:55, 0:01:57]: All the glory to you. [0:01:57, 0:02:00]: As you guide us to these challenging [0:02:00, 0:02:01]: Times in life. [0:02:02, 0:02:03]: Please. [0:02:03, 0:02:04]: Have your covering hand. [0:02:04, 0:02:05]: Over America. [0:02:06, 0:02:07]: And the rest of the world. [0:02:07, 0:02:10]: Топ ус дел від пандемік. [0:02:11, 0:02:13]: It is ravishing this world, Lord. [0:02:14, 0:02:16]: Only you know and you have the answer. [0:02:16, 0:02:18]: To what is the solution? [0:02:18, 0:02:20]: To survo to solve. [0:02:20, 0:02:22]: What is covet nineteen? [0:02:22, 0:02:24]: Protect the citizens of Stockbridge. [0:02:25, 0:02:27]: Protect our elected leaders. [0:02:27, 0:02:30]: And all involved to make wise decisions tonight. [0:02:31, 0:02:32]: As it involves the citizens. [0:02:33, 0:02:36]: It is about what is in the best interest of the city. [0:02:36, 0:02:38]: In everything that we do. [0:02:39, 0:02:41]: Let us put that as top of mind. [0:02:41, 0:02:42]: Always. [0:02:42, 0:02:43]: And never forget. [0:02:44, 0:02:45]: That it is you. [0:02:45, 0:02:48]: That guides us with the steady hand. [0:02:48, 0:02:49]: In Jesus' name. [0:02:50, 0:02:50]: Amen. [0:02:51, 0:02:51]: Amen. [0:02:52, 0:02:52]: Amen. [0:02:53, 0:02:55]: All right, folks, let's do the Pledge of Allegiance, please. Stand. [0:02:56, 0:02:58]: Mm, yeah. [0:02:59, 0:03:14]: I pledge allegiance to the flags of America and to the Republic which liberty and justice for all. [0:03:15, 0:03:15]: Yeah. [0:03:16, 0:03:18]: Thank you for that. [0:03:19, 0:03:23]: Councilman Alexander, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:03:23, 0:03:26]: Uh Mayor, I would like to amend the agenda. [0:03:27, 0:03:31]: Okay. [0:03:33, 0:03:34]: I'm sorry. [0:03:34, 0:03:36]: I'd like to add the uh crown at [0:03:38, 0:03:38]: Okay. [0:03:38, 0:03:40]: Which is uh the [0:03:41, 0:03:45]: Uh to the agenda is the natural hair protection. [0:03:45, 0:03:46]: Uh in the workplace. [0:03:47, 0:03:48]: Is there a second? [0:03:49, 0:03:50]: A second. Okay. [0:03:51, 0:03:52]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:03:55, 0:04:01]: Okay, approved. And what we'll do or add that at the end of uh new business. Um [0:04:03, 0:04:09]: It's uh add it added in the new business before we get into our public hearing dealing with SDS. All right. Okay. [0:04:14, 0:04:34]: All right, on that note, we have uh review of the minutes, the the uh November 9th council meeting minutes and the November 24th council work session. Those minutes would be approved at our next uh council meeting, which would be next year on January 11th. So uh please review those and if you have any comments or um changes, uh get [0:04:34, 0:04:35]: [276.4, 279.2]: On that note, uh Ms. Holliday, do we have any public comments? [0:04:39, 0:04:43]: There were no public comments. Okay, thank you very much. Okay, thank you very much. [0:04:44, 0:04:49]: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we have a presentation from the Henry County Development Authority update on all activities. [0:04:49, 0:04:59]: And uh that chairman or I will say C as well say CEO or just chairman, huh? Uh uh executive director. I I don't know if I want the chairman's role. [0:04:59, 0:05:19]: Mr. Josh Spinn. We got a great we got a great chair and board, but uh I'll take the executive director. Josh Spinn, go ahead, please, sir. Thank you. Council. Uh thank you for the invitation uh to update um you and the citizens of Stockbridge on what's going on with the Henry King Development Authority. Uh I do have a presentation. Um [0:05:19, 0:05:22]: Um so I'll go to share screen here and get that fired up. [0:05:22, 0:05:24]: Uh bear with me one second. [0:05:26, 0:05:46]: Go over some highlights and notes and what's going on, um, kind of update everybody on what we do as well too. And then uh once I conclude, um you know be happy to answer any questions you or the council may have. Um again, my name is Josh Finn, I'm the executive director of Henry County Development Authority. Uh we are the economic development agent. [0:05:46, 0:05:48]: agency for Henry County. [0:05:49, 0:05:55]: Um quick little overview about our mission. Um won't really bore you with the details. [0:05:55, 0:06:06]: But as the development authority, we are the economic development agency for the county. And our primary job is to attract new investment jobs, retention, expansion of our established industries. [0:06:07, 0:06:12]: I really like to jump over to this slide. Um, you know, mission, vision statements can get [0:06:12, 0:06:16]: very long. I do want to leave time for uh questions and discussion as well. [0:06:17, 0:06:22]: But really what we do is we recruit new businesses to Henry County. We retain, we grow them. [0:06:22, 0:06:38]: Um, we do have a policy that we want it to stay within the boundaries of Henry County. It's to everybody's benefit. Uh, whenever we get a win in Henry County, every part of the county wins. And we'll dive into that a little bit uh with some numbers as well too and examples. [0:06:39, 0:06:59]: So we are a constitutional authority formed by the state constitution for a development authority. There's not many economic development authorities that are formed by a constitution, state constitutional act. So we're lucky to be one of the few because it does give us some additional powers to help make projects happen within our community. [0:06:59, 0:07:01]: We do have a five member board. [0:07:01, 0:07:21]: uh who you see there. Uh I do know we share uh one of our board members, uh our newest one, Irv Culpepper, who uh serves on uh one of your boards as well too. Uh we're very excited to have him on board as our newest board member, uh Pierre Clemens is our chairman uh and our staff as well too, uh which uh this is the first time in a while we've been out of full staff. [0:07:21, 0:07:26]: We're very excited about some of the new additions that we brought onto our team over the last 12 months. [0:07:28, 0:07:41]: Now, why commercial industrial development? Um, I get this question a lot and always like to kind of go over this. Um, you know, on average, what the the University of Georgia, Georgia Power Economic Development, continues to confirm. [0:07:41, 0:07:47]: Uh throughout Georgia for every dollar in property taxes collected on a commercial industrial property. [0:07:48, 0:08:05]: those governments combined are really putting out about 60 cents in services. So they're profit centers versus residential, which you have a dollar and forty of services per dollar. That's factoring in everything. County, city, schools, in our case, Warter Authority as well too. [0:08:06, 0:08:08]: Uh, that's out there. So [0:08:08, 0:08:21]: We really are trying to help keep balance within our property tax digest and bring in those profit centers, if you will, for our government entities to provide the services at the lowest tax rate that they can. [0:08:21, 0:08:23]: Uh going um [0:08:23, 0:08:27]: And there's a lot to be done uh in that end and a lot of needs that are out there. [0:08:28, 0:08:42]: Um, our commercial industrial makeup right now in Henry County, and this is overall according to our board of assessors, uh, based on the 2020 digest, is about 35.42%, while residential makes up about 60.87% of our tax base. [0:08:45, 0:08:54]: So to kind of highlight this a little bit more in some uh studies that we've done uh in consultation uh with the assessors uh and some other entities as well too. [0:08:55, 0:09:02]: On average, right now, in what an industrial building. Um, and this is a manufacturing facility, supply chain facility. [0:09:03, 0:09:11]: Um fully functioning. Um, the average is about fifty million in tax value in Henry County. It would take [0:09:11, 0:09:17]: Three hundred and fifty houses at average value two hundred and fifty produce the same amount of taxes per year. [0:09:17, 0:09:37]: uh it's out there that is significant. Um so these are great uh profit centers that we are bringing into the county um and various things it's not just industrial it's commercial as well too and that's just that's a bigger example as you scale down to the commercial uh businesses whether it be retail um office various other things that do [0:09:37, 0:09:52]: have a little bit lower value, they still profit more. It takes a lot of houses to make up the tax impact that those businesses bring into the county. Less service demands on those commercial properties as well too, if you factor everything in. [0:09:52, 0:10:11]: Um and with our population growth uh that we are having, keeping a balanced uh tax digest will be key for everybody, the county, the cities, the school board, the water authority, uh to keep that balance, to keep their services at a good lower cost and good value uh going forward. [0:10:13, 0:10:27]: So one of the things I just want to share, this is uh something I share with my board every year. Um, and we uh work with the tax assessor and tax commissioner's office, uh looking at digest breakdown and what type it is. As you see in 2019, 58% residential. [0:10:27, 0:10:28]: Um [0:10:28, 0:10:38]: All the other sectors making up uh the remainder forty two percent. Um and it is rounded. So they're uh I know I've got a zero on there, but it's not zero, it's point [0:10:38, 0:10:58]: uh zero point something um below zero point five percent so we do uh still have some agriculture in the county as well uh but utilities others um industrial commercial a pretty good balance from what most of the experts tell us for a suburban county is a 60 40 balance uh that's out there so we're hanging in [0:10:58, 0:10:59]: In that area. [0:11:00, 0:11:11]: One thing that is a little bit concerning to us right now, um as we have additional residential growth, as you see the jump from year to year, again rounded up to 61%. [0:11:12, 0:11:18]: Um, we are starting to get a little bit outside of that balanced area uh that's there. So we want to continue to bring in good. [0:11:19, 0:11:34]: Quality businesses of all kinds into Henry County, um, no matter where they go, to keep that balance going forward to help our governments be able to provide those services and try to keep tax rates down or even the opportunity to roll back in the future. [0:11:36, 0:11:40]: So some are largest employers. This is one thing we're really trying to [0:11:41, 0:12:00]: Really highlight going forward. You'll see some new programs from us going forward as well in 2021. But we have a lot of great names, a lot of large employers in our area as well. But if you see there's a good balance manufacturing, got some good government employees, employers as well too. [0:12:00, 0:12:10]: Some good professional services as well. A lot of people forget we're the home of the Georgia Powers Customer Care Center, right off Patrick Henry Boulevard. That's a Fortune 500 company. [0:12:10, 0:12:30]: um with over 500 employees there, uh conduit, uh a lot of people don't realize that. Another professional solution uh operation off of 138. Um I think just outside the boundaries of Stockbridge, uh forgive me. Um I'm still learning my boundaries of cities and counties. To me it's all in Henry County, it's all a team. [0:12:30, 0:12:46]: in our mind. And you know, great manufacturers as well too. Lazotica, we're known for, Ken's Foods who recently expanded. We'll talk about that in just a minute. But just a lot of great opportunities here in our community and various different industry sectors. [0:12:50, 0:13:10]: I always like to show this slide. Um, and I always when we go out, uh myself, Jamal, our team, we go out and market um to site selection consultants, uh, to our partners at the Georgia Department of Economic Development, Utilities, et cetera. You know, these are companies who have invested with us, not just invested with us, they've grown with us as well too. [0:13:10, 0:13:20]: We can make six or seven of these slides. But as you see, there's a lot of great names and points of pride to be um excited about in Henry County, a lot of brand names that are out there. [0:13:21, 0:13:26]: Um so we always like to show the slide for one to take pride in, but two. [0:13:26, 0:13:28]: Especially now, you know, we're um [0:13:29, 0:13:41]: If you're like me, you still got some holiday shopping to do. Um, you know, there's some chances to support Henry County employees and jobs when you're purchasing products and using uh retail services as well too. [0:13:45, 0:14:05]: Getting a little slow there. So growing our key industries. Um, you know, our three keys, uh, three key sectors, and uh there's a fourth as well, too, but uh the three primary ones, advanced manufacturing, um, you know, great examples like Lazotica, Appla, Sansine Brake, uh, our supply chain e-commerce, uh as well too. [0:14:05, 0:14:25]: Wayfair, U.S. Coal Storage, Home Depot, and our professional solutions and three of our good power centers in Georgia Power, TSIS, and Conduit. Really have seen a lot of growth in the advanced manufacturing sector over the last year and a half in attraction to that. And a lot of that has to do with our existing. [0:14:25, 0:14:45]: Assets within the supply chain and logistics that are there. As supply chains have had global supply chains have gone through shock, whether it be trade disputes, COVID, who knows what's next, a lot of companies are repositioning. But one of the other things that we have found in some of our recent successes as well. [0:14:44, 0:15:04]: Is that manufacturers are looking to get closer to those supply chain networks as we, the consumer, we click, we want it at our door within 48 hours or less. Um, so that is becoming more and more attractive in our location, advanced manufacturer, uh, which we've had a lot of success in this year. We're going to [0:15:04, 0:15:14]: continue to see success if the trends continue going forward uh in that end. So uh we are trying to leverage some of our strengths that have been historical. [0:15:14, 0:15:19]: um and pivot those uh to get some of the other sectors that we're looking for. [0:15:22, 0:15:42]: So last year we uh located or uh expanded 10 companies, uh able to attract over a thousand jobs,$109.5 million in new capital investment uh into the tax digest, um, various things that are there, TSUS with their expansion, Helga, great project uh that we worked on. [0:15:42, 0:15:57]: with the city uh to locate. We're looking forward to their opening here very shortly. And Compass Health, which just broke ground a few months ago, is gonna be a great compliment to the Piedmont Henry campus. I'll mention Dole Foods as well too. [0:15:58, 0:16:10]: they are uh locating into the US coal storage facility uh expansion that's there and they're gonna be uh producing the smoothies uh that you can buy at your local grocery store. Uh they will be having I will give a um [0:16:10, 0:16:30]: Quick plug, if anybody is looking for an opportunity with Dole, they will be having a career fair in partnership with the Department of Labor and Worksource Atlanta uh early in January. And um stay tuned to our social media and we'll afford that to Mr. Knight and y'all's communications team as well as our other partners if y'all do have citizens who are interested uh in those opportunities. [0:16:33, 0:16:37]: So twenty twenty um has been a um [0:16:37, 0:16:57]: fast and furious year for us uh in henry county. A lot of great wins, a lot of great names uh that are there. So far, and I say so far, we're not done yet. We still got a week and a half to go. Um don't, you know, until it's uh midnight on the 31st, we keep going. Um but so far nine new industries or expens [0:16:57, 0:17:12]: expansions uh into Henry County, 2,640 jobs. We'll announce this public and it'll be more formal about it in January, but that is an all-time high for Henry County in a single year. Our capital investments into the tax digest. [0:17:13, 0:17:13]: Um [0:17:14, 0:17:19]: We'll we'll cross the four hundred and fifty million line. Uh or a hundred thousand short. We'll get there. [0:17:19, 0:17:20]: Um [0:17:20, 0:17:40]: But that also 449.9 million, that is also a single year record for the Henry County Development Authority, which we have been in existence since the late 60s as a development authority. These are both all-time highs from the best records that we can track and find. We're very encouraged. We're very excited. [0:17:40, 0:17:58]: Um Xenus, we think is a fantastic uh win for us. 810 jobs, over$100 million in investment. What we really love about they're taking the old Toys R Us distribution center, converting that into a state-of-the-art advanced manufacturing facility. This will be their only manufacturing facility in North America. [0:17:59, 0:18:02]: Um, I was actually on the construction site today, touring it with the company. [0:18:03, 0:18:23]: Uh they've got 200 people on the uh job site now working to get that thing online by first quarter. Uh Purple Mattress, another great uh company, one of the hottest names uh out there in e-commerce, a manufacturing and e-commerce uh facility, uh makes great products that are out there. The Home Depot continues to [0:18:23, 0:18:33]: reinvest with us. We're very excited about that. I know that's uh they're in the process of hiring and staffing that right now. I think uh Councilman Alexander, someone said you [0:18:33, 0:18:37]: posted uh about those job openings and I appreciate you doing that. [0:18:37, 0:18:42]: Um and another one we're really excited about too, all of them we're really excited about, but Ken's foods as well too. [0:18:42, 0:18:51]: Uh and their expansion. That expansion project is actually gonna take 40 truck moves a day off of Georgia one um fifty-five. [0:18:51, 0:19:11]: So not only are we expanding, not only are we having these companies grow and invest, but we're trying to help find solutions to help the infrastructure as well and take advantage of those opportunities. So uh it was a great opportunity that we were glad to get engaged in. And one last plug for Maiden Henry and supporting Henry Giles Ferraro as you're getting those stocks. [0:19:11, 0:19:15]: [1156.2, 1158.2]: Um Ferrar Rochelle chocolates. [0:19:18, 0:19:22]: They are up in an operation right now. Uh we'll have a uh ribbon cutting. [0:19:22, 0:19:28]: uh for them uh as when conditions improve that we can gather and give it the proper [0:19:28, 0:19:35]: um event that it needs, uh, but that facility is up and running. Uh, and it is a very sweet deal for Henry County. [0:19:38, 0:19:58]: So going into new jobs for Henry County over the five year period, um 6,560 new jobs. Um, and why am I showing Piedmont Henry Hospital? I do want to highlight this, and I think this is uh a bonus uh for Stockbridge in the city as well, too, as Piedmont Henry is one of your [0:19:58, 0:20:07]: uh power centers and drives a lot of the medical um profession uh to the Eagles Land and other corridors around Stockbridge and the campus at Piedmont Henry. [0:20:08, 0:20:28]: That's 6,560 jobs with benefits. This is a big stat. This is a continuous stat that Dr. Henson, the leadership team at Piedmont Henry continue to ask us for updates on as they continue to make the case to Piedmont Corporate to get the capital investments to continue to expand. As we get calls from retailers. [0:20:28, 0:20:34]: but also medical professionals, they ask for this number. Why? Because they're looking for the private insured. [0:20:34, 0:20:36]: That's where we're looking to pay. [0:20:36, 0:20:53]: uh the paying customers, the market share. We're continuing to grow that market share in Henry County to continue to attract medical companies and businesses liking encompass health. But others that are smaller, not so heavily engaged in, but we're providing them those data points to help make the case to locate here. [0:20:55, 0:21:04]: Capital investments as well too. Uh over the last five years, the Henry County Development Authority has helped put$1.156 billion. [0:21:05, 0:21:20]: billion uh into the tax digest in Henry County once all these things come to full, uh come in, complete construction and get into operations. That's a significant impact, but that also is a great stat to help us attract other businesses. [0:21:21, 0:21:41]: That are looking. They may not be major employers, they may be retailers, they may be medical groups, professional uh services, various other businesses, but they're looking for where the economic growth is, where they're making their next decision to invest. Um, they want to know that. This is a stat that we commonly get asked for uh as we're working with. [0:21:41, 0:21:59]: site selection consultants, real estate brokers, et cetera, they are looking for these numbers. This is what we are providing to them and it impresses, it shows it gets Henry County overall in the game to get those looks. So we're very excited to continue that growth and positivity for our community. [0:22:01, 0:22:21]: So, in perspective, what does that look like? This is a stat we like to show. So we asked the assessors to kind of give us the digest fair market value of all four of our cities, just to show the impact. So the last five years, what the development authority has been able to do, we've been able to attract basically the fair market value of two Hampton. [0:22:21, 0:22:23]: One locust grove. [0:22:23, 0:22:26]: Um almost the half of stock bridge. [0:22:26, 0:22:29]: uh and about a third of a McDonough in a five year period. [0:22:29, 0:22:33]: uh in investments and going back to what we're talking about. [0:22:33, 0:22:37]: With the commercial and the industrial properties being profit centers for our government. [0:22:38, 0:22:55]: uh that is critical to keep the balance uh going forward and uh be able to provide services at a good uh cost and uh property tax rate. So uh we're very proud of this. Um we're looking forward to doing more and we're very excited. Um but we'd really like to show this stat just to kind of help. [0:22:56, 0:23:01]: put something visual in there uh to show what that impact into the tax digest looks like. [0:23:04, 0:23:19]: Working together, we all win. This is a great moment between our two agencies uh not too long ago. We're ready for the vaccine so we can get to do this again and get some rivet cuttings going and uh various other things. Like I said, Helga's a great story, but working together, we all win. [0:23:20, 0:23:25]: And we want to continue to emphasize to everyone in Henry County and our municipal partners as well. [0:23:25, 0:23:29]: Uh we are the Henry Kane Development Authority, but we are here to help. [0:23:29, 0:23:40]: in any way that we can uh with our municipal partners. We have done that before with Stockbridge and various transactions and powers that we do have the authority to help make some things happen. [0:23:41, 0:23:41]: Um [0:23:42, 0:23:45]: And tools that we have in our toolkit, we're one call away. [0:23:45, 0:23:48]: Um so we're always happy to help however we can. [0:23:48, 0:23:50]: Uh and we want to be there. [0:23:51, 0:24:00]: So um a few things I'll highlight real quick and I'll wrap up and maybe be happy to answer any questions that the council has. Um coming up in 2021. [0:24:01, 0:24:07]: Uh we were looking forward to doing this this year, but unfortunately COVID uh we decided to push back until twenty twenty one. [0:24:07, 0:24:11]: Uh, we are going to do a county wide economic development strategic plan. [0:24:12, 0:24:29]: Um we are uh and I've talked with the city managers of all four cities in partnership with our county manager. We want full participation um with all the cities and the county involved in this uh so that we're all at the table, we're having those discussions uh and we're unified in economic development. [0:24:30, 0:24:37]: uh that going forward. Uh we gotta have coordination uh unified will be successful. Uh that's what we're looking for on that. [0:24:37, 0:24:57]: Uh a lot of our information, if any of your citizens are interested, www.cheesehenry.com. Um we are currently right now going through a website refresh. So it's in some beta stages uh that are there, but some of the new tools that we'll have is additional demographic information. So if you're a real estate agent um trying to sell the community and uh [0:24:57, 0:25:11]: uh sell a house and some questions are being asked by your client, you can go on our site, you can pull up uh what some of the average incomes are, uh, what the uh graduation rates are, various stats that we do have. So we'll have some new tools into [0:25:11, 0:25:21]: toolbox available to everybody and some of the data points that we use as well too and be looking for more information about that coming in January on that end. [0:25:21, 0:25:30]: And uh I do want to be respectful of time. I know y'all got a a large agenda this evening. Um, but again, thank you for your time. I'll be happy to answer any questions you have, Mayor. [0:25:30, 0:25:46]: County. Josh, I listen, I appreciate your briefing, very informative. And uh look forward to that strategic plan that we're all getting on the same sheet of music countywide. And obviously the county is continuing to grow. And so we all want to be part of this, uh part of this process as we continue to have a bright future together. [0:25:46, 0:25:54]: Obviously, COVID 19 has not hindered the development of things that you've done because obviously we set records this year. So that's a fantastic thing. [0:25:55, 0:26:03]: Yeah, thank you. That's great stuff. Anyway, I will be I'll be quiet for a minute here and um I'm pretty sure there's some questions for you, specific questions. Yep. anybody? [0:26:04, 0:26:15]: You may have got a question for Mr. Finn. Councilman Alexander, go ahead, please. Uh yes, sir. Thank you for the excellent presentation. Uh the one thing that I want you to talk about is the [0:26:16, 0:26:19]: Text digest the two point nine uh in [0:26:19, 0:26:25]: McDonough and then the two point five and stockbridge. Explain that number uh to the council. [0:26:26, 0:26:36]: Yes, uh so what we did, we asked the tax assessors to give us the fair market value of what was in the incorporated uh limits within those cities. [0:26:37, 0:26:40]: Um that's where those numbers were generated. [0:26:40, 0:26:44]: Okay, so even though Stockbridge is a little bit l uh a larger city. [0:26:44, 0:26:46]: McDonough actually has a larger [0:26:47, 0:26:51]: tax base and that's but like you said sixty percent, sixty one percent. [0:26:51, 0:26:53]: of that is residential. Is that correct? [0:26:54, 0:27:02]: Uh sixty one that's countywide. So uh within the cities I do not have that breakdown uh in front of me right now, but I'll be happy to see if I can [0:27:02, 0:27:05]: But again, county wide there would be about sixty one [0:27:05, 0:27:08]: percent residential. So residential is driving. [0:27:09, 0:27:17]: The tax digest. So I I said that to the council because I need you to understand how this is keying in. And that number is a bit too high. [0:27:17, 0:27:22]: But to understand the what we've been discussing about tax digest. [0:27:22, 0:27:24]: And McDonna has uh in itself. [0:27:25, 0:27:27]: uh been very expansive in the number of new [0:27:28, 0:27:29]: Communities. [0:27:29, 0:27:33]: That McDonough has been rolling out. I think they've had in excess of maybe [0:27:33, 0:27:35]: Six or seven hundred per mit. [0:27:36, 0:27:39]: For new housing in a yearly basis in the city. [0:27:39, 0:27:42]: Has not been keeping up with their pace and McDonald has closed. [0:27:43, 0:27:46]: The gap in terms of that and they're actually ahead of us. [0:27:46, 0:27:47]: In terms of total roll. [0:27:48, 0:27:59]: uh uh revenue. We as a city need to work with you in order to bring uh some of that economic development uh toward Stockbridge. And one of the things that I'll say [0:28:00, 0:28:09]: Uh, for myself generally. I've never been one of the people to beat up on the warehouses. Okay. I know you've heard a little bit of that. We we call'em supply chain centers. [0:28:10, 0:28:30]: Supply chain centers. I I I've never been one of the people to beat up on the supply chain centers because I understand, see, as a politician, that's I that it would be scapegoating, because in the end, it is not the responsibility of these logistics centers to repair the road and the infrastructure, it is the elected bodies. [0:28:29, 0:28:31]: Of Henry County and uh [0:28:32, 0:28:51]: uh the cities in order to to repair that. It's not that we have too much too many logistics. The balance is all of whack where we don't have uh the other industries. And as you said, you're uh pursuing those industries. Do you have an update? Uh uh did y'all work on the Costco deal at all? Were you all involved in that? [0:28:52, 0:28:54]: Oh no, I [0:28:56, 0:29:16]: I probably know so I mean I think Yeah. I um I I probab I probably need to answer it this way. Just uh we do have agreements um that we do have with real estate consultants and those relationships um that are there. So I would say that we are constantly um [0:29:15, 0:29:35]: Working with not only larger industries and their consultants, but the retail consultants are calling us as well to not, we may not be as deeply involved from that end uh with a retail project. We're more for technical support. [0:29:35, 0:29:55]: that's out there. Sometimes they do have executives that come through that we will host and you know drive them through community, show them some of the other uh retail power centers, some the employment growth, some of the housing, uh new housing developments uh that they're looking for as well too. They're looking uh as they look at their number [0:29:55, 0:30:15]: To center in and find that sweet spot where they want to locate as we're making the case overall in Henry County. And we let the real estate make, you know, make that decision. Our job is to keep it within Henry County over there because we do see that it all benefits. We're very bullish. I will say we're very bullish. [0:30:15, 0:30:27]: On the Jotico Road area uh and future development there. And we think that there's a about to be a really good spark uh that will get some good synergy going there. And I think that's gonna be beneficial on a uh [0:30:28, 0:30:39]: Uh part of that uh interchange is in the uh city, part of it's in unincorporated. I think everyone's gonna benefit uh once that first real good anchor uh gets up and going and gets vertical. [0:30:39, 0:30:46]: Um and the last thing that I want to ask is I saw the number for P Mont Henry, right? [0:30:46, 0:30:50]: Okay. Now that's just Piedmont Henry itself, the hospital, correct? [0:30:51, 0:31:11]: No, I was just showing that to show an example of the benefit of the jobs that we're bringing in, because these jobs, uh, anything that we do work with uh or incentivize, we do have requirement minimal requirements and standards. One of those is benefits uh that are out there, including health insurance. Uh so that is an attractive number uh to the folks at P. [0:31:11, 0:31:22]: Piedmont Henry, which I think in turn is a benefit to the city of Stockbridge and some of its commercial corridors and attraction as Piedmont Henry continues to grow. [0:31:23, 0:31:27]: Right. And what my point being in that the discussion is that [0:31:27, 0:31:32]: The eighteen hundred jobs represent what's going on at Piedmont Henry, but that does not reflect [0:31:32, 0:31:43]: Oh job jobs of Party. I apologize. I got confused. Yeah. Or the uh you know, children's health care Hudson Bridge, um regenerative, orthopedic, and surgical. [0:31:43, 0:31:45]: інститут емрі [0:31:46, 0:31:59]: at uh Eagles Landing, uh Wellstar, Northside, all of those components are there. I think what really helps us sell in those other industries right here in the city of Stockbridge is that the daytime population is being driven [0:32:00, 0:32:16]: by the medical complex, not just Pete Monthry, but all of the surrounding areas, that surely does aid in the pursuit of some of these um uh retailers and other businesses as well, because they look at daytime population. Is that correct? [0:32:16, 0:32:19]: It is. It's um you look at [0:32:20, 0:32:37]: you know, your AM traffic, um, you know, your lunchtime traffic and your PM traffic if you're looking at the restaurant side. But um other, you know, with retailers as well too, the daytime traffic is very critical um because a lot of folks they're gonna do their shopping right after work. [0:32:37, 0:32:39]: At lunchtime. [0:32:39, 0:32:40]: Um [0:32:40, 0:32:57]: Yeah, I'll I'll go back to my uh I started out as a downtown developer. Um in my career and one of the biggest projects that we did when I was in Way Cross, Georgia, uh was bringing in a office project with over a hundred jobs. Uh and the big reason we put a lot into it because we knew we had a hundred [0:32:58, 0:33:15]: uh white collar positions uh within walking distance to our downtown retailers. Uh so we knew the restaurants we win, we knew the boutiques we win, uh the retail shops, the office supply store, um, various other things, whether they're just looking, you know, to get a mill, get an errand done. [0:33:15, 0:33:20]: Or even just go and buy a gift, uh, during their lunch break or right after work or right before work. [0:33:20, 0:33:27]: us out there. So the more synergy that you do have uh during the daytime, the more attractive you are. There's uh the no doubt on that. [0:33:28, 0:33:33]: A last thing I'll close by saying is thank you for your involvement uh in Hegler Corporation. [0:33:34, 0:33:36]: You know, uh pre pre your term [0:33:37, 0:33:40]: There was some isw uh questions about whether or not. [0:33:40, 0:33:44]: the the development authority was working in the best interest of the city. [0:33:44, 0:33:47]: And I think Hegler went a long way toward [0:33:47, 0:33:48]: Воркін токе. [0:33:49, 0:33:54]: that these entities could work in locating a headquarters inside the city. So thank you. [0:33:54, 0:34:02]: Yeah, and uh our our my predecessor and the uh team, um, you know, very proud of that project and um we we're looking forward to [0:34:03, 0:34:05]: uh building on that success with you guys. [0:34:05, 0:34:06]: Thank you. [0:34:06, 0:34:09]: Thank you. Council Councilman uh Blount, go ahead, please. [0:34:09, 0:34:29]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Uh Josh, thank you so much for coming and we thank you for that presentation. Uh it's good information. Um, just for some clarity before you leave, uh when you talked about cities maintaining that balance and you saw a little out of the balance when it came to the county's uh uh areas of 61%. Uh when you talked about maintaining balance, you [0:34:29, 0:34:41]: You talked about the commercial um impact to uh boosting the digest, that you wanna maintain balance, but the true boosting to the digest is commercial instead of residential. Is that correct? [0:34:42, 0:34:56]: Commercial and industrial are your profit centers uh that are out there. Um and I I don't have the the city breakdowns. Um I I'll probably do some digging in that uh during the holiday break, um as a I hopefully get a little bit of uh slow time. [0:34:57, 0:35:02]: uh that's out there, but it's very critical. I've worked in a suburban county previous Bryan County. [0:35:02, 0:35:07]: I'll give an example uh down on the coast. Uh when I've gotten there in two thousand nine. [0:35:08, 0:35:10]: Uh suburban county to Savannah. [0:35:10, 0:35:17]: uh the middle third of the county was completely occupied by Fort Stewart. So that's federal non-taxable land. [0:35:17, 0:35:31]: Uh the eastern 10% of the county was all marshlands uh and coastal areas, so protected uh by the state, can't tax that either. Um, and being completely divided, we had to have two of everything. We were ninety percent residential. [0:35:32, 0:35:36]: Um and it was uh it was um [0:35:36, 0:35:56]: I'll put it to you this way: every GMA conference or ACCG conference uh that staff was invited to, we were told to make sure to grab a few uh extra pens uh at the booths to make the budget. Uh so it's um a little funny story there, but yeah, it is very important to keep, you know, you're gonna grow. We're all gonna grow. We realize that, but it's also [0:35:56, 0:36:15]: also important that we keep good quality balance uh in commercial and industrial because that's gonna help the city, the county, the school board uh keep the taxes where they're at or be in a position to roll them back and still provide the uh quality of service or even better. [0:36:15, 0:36:25]: uh service that's out there. So commercial industrial is very key to our future growth or we will get out of whack and we're gonna have some problems financially coming uh coming down the road. [0:36:26, 0:36:31]: You just follow up because when I looked at the numbers when you talked about um [0:36:31, 0:36:51]: The the ratio numbers when it comes to I think it's just 250 employee uh business make the 250,000 dollars or or employees versus how many homes you would need to cover those costs if you didn't keep the balance. And it was like about 350 homes, I think you have had on the uh yeah, and and and the typical what we call industrial. [0:36:51, 0:36:54]: building some people call it warehouses, but this is your [0:36:54, 0:37:14]: You know, five hundred, you know, five hundred thousand square feet plus tilt wall, thirty-six foot high um type of building. Uh those have a those are very those have a high value base and they um produce a lot of taxes. So it does take a lot of homes. But the other thing with residential too, you have a lot more exemptions in residential. [0:37:14, 0:37:23]: residential uh under uh Georgia law, uh as they're assessed. Um your homestead exemptions, et cetera, where the industrial properties don't have that. [0:37:24, 0:37:28]: advantage. So it does take a lot more to make up that gap. [0:37:28, 0:37:29]: All right, thank you. [0:37:30, 0:37:49]: Josh Josh, maybe I missed it, but what I gotta ask, what is the the right mixture, residential and commercial? Is it dependent on the the population base? I mean, what's the right mixture of that percentage-wise? I think overall, even as your population base grows, you know, remember uh it's the commercial versus you know the residential where those exemptions [0:37:49, 0:38:02]: um, you know, on the residential side say most of most of the people that I listen to um you know tell me it's you know sixty forty um is a pretty good number to be at. Um [0:38:02, 0:38:11]: You know, I mean, you can get a little bit off here and there. You know, in some places as well, too, you may have um I've worked in the county that's had a power plant. [0:38:11, 0:38:19]: um that's out there that's you know, that tax bill is you know pretty massive uh out there. Um so [0:38:19, 0:38:39]: It it just varies as out there, but usually the the general rule of thumb that I continue to hear the people I listen to um tell me is 6040 uh over there. And I you know, I'm definitely going to research the cities and see what those balances are. Um I definitely encourage you know everybody to look at that because it is something as [0:38:39, 0:38:43]: As we continue to grow, we need to factor in our long term planning, keep that balance. [0:38:43, 0:38:56]: Appreciate it. Thank you very much. Uh Council, any other question for Mr. Finn? Mayor, I just have a comment from Mr. Finn. Go right in, please. Uh Mr. Finn, thank you so much for your presentation. Um, thank you for giving us that update. [0:38:57, 0:39:17]: Um thank you for Hegla. Thank you to the Development Authority and all that you guys do. I know it takes a team effort. We're all on the same team. And I look forward to working with the development authority in the future. So I just, you know, I think that it's important that the City of Stockbridge works with the development authority. [0:39:17, 0:39:29]: um economic development is thriving here um currently, although you know, of course we always have our our scares. Um but I in regards to the pandemic. [0:39:29, 0:39:30]: However [0:39:30, 0:39:34]: Um, you guys are doing a phenomenal job. And I just want to say thank you. [0:39:35, 0:39:45]: Well, we appreciate y'all and uh appreciate and looking forward to continued partnership and uh you know, Randy's always great. And I know uh y'all bringing Alan on board. I know Alan, uh great guy and looking forward to [0:39:45, 0:40:05]: uh working with him and um you know any way that we can help and any way that I can help as well too being an ex-downtown developer. That's always kind of my passion side project. Um, you know, help advise or just, you know, walk around and brainstorm, you know, please give us a call. We're here, our expertise is here, you know, we're here to help, even just bounce ideas off the wall. [0:40:05, 0:40:06]: To find solutions. [0:40:07, 0:40:10]: Outstanding. Council, once again, any other questions for Mr. Finn? [0:40:10, 0:40:12]: Questions, concerns. [0:40:12, 0:40:32]: Uh seeing that. Okay. Mr. Finn, thanks a lot. Appreciate the presentation and we look forward to a bright future together. And I'm glad to know that you you know our incoming economic director. I didn't realize that, but I should know. That's great. It's great stuff. So it's gonna work. We make it a point to network very heavily in our state. So uh fantastic. Merry Council, Merry Christmas, happy holidays, and have a great new year and stay safe. [0:40:32, 0:40:36]: And we'll see y'all soon. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Happy holidays to you. Bye bye. [0:40:37, 0:40:39]: Okay, we're gonna talk about some old business here. [0:40:40, 0:40:45]: Uh council consideration to approve the purchase of the twenty twenty-one Kinword Vancot. [0:40:46, 0:40:47]: Back cock truck. [0:40:48, 0:40:51]: From H uh M H C Kenworth of Atlanta. [0:40:51, 0:41:08]: The Georgia Department of Administration Services awarded a statewide contract to MHC Kenworth of Atlanta. Contract numbers nine nine nine nine-001-SPD00000155 for truck chassis. [0:41:08, 0:41:12]: In truck bodies in the amount of four hundred six thousand nine hundred and twenty two dollars. [0:41:13, 0:41:17]: Funding source water and sewer fund balance presented by Mr. Aaron, please. [0:41:18, 0:41:33]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. Thanks for allowing us to bring this back. I have Donnie Mullis, our water superintendent, and Brad Holtzinger, our sewer superintendent. They're on to answer any questions about how this piece of equipment will be used. I know that is a necessary [0:41:34, 0:41:50]: item that would help not only water sewer but stormwater as well with preventive maintenance and cleaning out and maintaining catch basin so that we don't have flooding and things like that on our streets. But I have Mr. Mullis and Mr. Holt Singer if there are any questions as to how this [0:41:50, 0:41:52]: piece of equipment will be used. [0:41:53, 0:41:56]: Oh Mr Blount, Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:41:57, 0:42:08]: Yeah, my first question, uh I have a couple of questions. My first qu question is uh how are we maintaining them now that we need that we would need this uh piece of equipment? And I wanna do a follow up on that, please. [0:42:09, 0:42:11]: Well currently [0:42:11, 0:42:12]: We don't have any [0:42:13, 0:42:23]: equipment available to clean out a storm drain our catch basin that debris accumulate in over the years. So we're trying to do that with the sewer jetter. [0:42:23, 0:42:27]: But that doesn't work for this because you gotta actually get the debris out of [0:42:28, 0:42:29]: That catch basin. [0:42:30, 0:42:36]: So you so you're saying that out of all these years we never had to purchase one of those machines and we maintain, is that what you're saying? [0:42:37, 0:42:40]: Well, we're just allowing things to go [0:42:40, 0:42:41]: as they're going. [0:42:42, 0:42:51]: We don't ha we didn't have that equipment and we like I say we've been using a sewer jetter to try to help us out, but that's not the right type of equipment for these type of operations. [0:42:53, 0:42:54]: How often would you need this truck? [0:42:56, 0:42:57]: Well I know and [0:42:57, 0:43:17]: And the stormwater, they'll use it in conjunction with their annual inspections they do. The stormwater department has over 10,000 structures they have to maintain. So they'll put their catch basins on the same schedule as the inspections for these basins. And also, I know water, a lot of times when we have leaks, [0:43:17, 0:43:29]: They're used they call in the contractor to come in and excavate those services for us to make repairs. Sure will use them as well to clean out their lift lift stations from grease, clean out uh [0:43:29, 0:43:40]: manholes and things of that sort. And also when we have heavy rains like over the Smith Barnes basin, we can pump around that so that we don't have the sewer spills we've experienced over the years. [0:43:41, 0:43:47]: Well, Mr. Daisy, I'm mayor if you don't mind. What I'm saying is now you just say you you got about ten thousand locations. [0:43:48, 0:43:59]: And we've been doing this for years. So how often would we need this truck if everything's else has been maintained this far for so many years? I'm just trying to I'm just trying to figure out where would this [0:43:59, 0:44:01]: Where's the need for this truck? [0:44:02, 0:44:04]: Versus what you've been doing all along. [0:44:05, 0:44:09]: For all these years and you're saying now that they're looking at ten thousand structures. [0:44:10, 0:44:15]: Without this truck for years, where's the need and how often would you need this truck? [0:44:15, 0:44:17]: Why why do we need this truck? [0:44:17, 0:44:20]: Mr. Eric, can I speak with as far as the sewer goes? [0:44:21, 0:44:23]: Yeah, go red. Go ahead, Brad. Go ahead. [0:44:23, 0:44:25]: Oh well as far as the sewer goes. [0:44:26, 0:44:31]: There's times in the middle of the night. We we currently have one [0:44:31, 0:44:32]: Um [0:44:33, 0:44:37]: I guess you'd call outside source that would come in in the middle of the night. [0:44:38, 0:44:39]: And [0:44:40, 0:44:55]: He he's failed me a couple of times, but you know, he's pretty good about it, but he's a one man show and not every one of those VAC trucks will come in two o'clock in the morning on a Saturday night to to work. They just [0:44:56, 0:44:59]: They there's so much work they don't have to do that. [0:44:59, 0:45:04]: And when you got sewer backing up into a creek or into a house. [0:45:04, 0:45:08]: And our current jetters just doesn't have the [0:45:08, 0:45:14]: I guess you say the the muscle to do it, this vac truck would,'cause it has a jetter on it. [0:45:15, 0:45:16]: Um [0:45:16, 0:45:31]: That's that's one place it would it would benefit the city. You know, you wouldn't have those situations in the middle of the night where someone's house is getting flooded with sewer. Well let me let me uh Brad, I'm sorry to tell you, let me ask you this question. [0:45:31, 0:45:46]: So with that scenario, how often would you all need this truck? I still have fighting out how often would you need this truck? I I can't predict that, you know. I mean I can't have you how often have you needed a truck? I I could say uh let's see. [0:45:47, 0:45:54]: Three weeks ago I could have used it in this very situation I'm talking about. Now let's take twenty nineteen. How often would you have needed this truck? [0:45:55, 0:45:56]: Uh the jetter. [0:45:57, 0:45:59]: Problem. No, this is just the jetter end of it. [0:45:59, 0:46:00]: Um [0:46:02, 0:46:02]: Ten times. [0:46:04, 0:46:06]: You know, to keep sour. [0:46:07, 0:46:09]: Out of the creek is basically what I'm saying. [0:46:10, 0:46:30]: Uh we could have used it digging where, you know when you're digging with a backhoe around all these utilities now that are along the side of the road where you got gas, power, you have to be very careful with the backhoe. I mean, it's just tedious and sometimes you hit it with a VAC truck, there's no issue. [0:46:30, 0:46:36]: There, you just suck the dirt up and you can go about your business. It's safer than using a backhoe. [0:46:37, 0:46:43]: There's and I and I'm just talking on the sewer end. I'm not talking on the stormwater end or the water end. [0:46:43, 0:46:44]: Uh [0:46:47, 0:46:48]: What about the water end, Donnie? [0:46:49, 0:46:51]: Well, for the water end, I mean [0:46:51, 0:47:10]: Really, it it would be more beneficial for water sewer and stormwater to be more proactive, set up a maintenance program. And as far as using the truck, the truck could be isolated anywhere from three to four times a week if we could set up a proactive. [0:47:10, 0:47:18]: maintenance program as far as water, sewer, and storm. That would mean going out cleaning out bow boxes, uh [0:47:19, 0:47:25]: Cleaning out ditches, cleaning out cross pipes, uh maintenance on manholes. [0:47:26, 0:47:33]: You know, as far as such stuff like that. And then as far as the water side, you could also use it as far as rehabbing. [0:47:34, 0:47:43]: Which I've got a uh project coming up in Willow Springs as far as renewing all the water services out there, Miss Holiday. [0:47:43, 0:47:51]: But uh it would be more beneficial for that because a lot of the services in Willow Springs, where the meters are. [0:47:52, 0:48:10]: You have all the utilities that's congested in the same area. Now, if you go in there, we have been using backhoe and the the excavator to go in there, but the impact to the yards, the sidewalk is it's it's it's getting to where it's too expensive to be proactive. [0:48:11, 0:48:17]: As far as a vacuum, when I call a vacuum in there to renew a service or fix a leak, I don't have damaged. [0:48:18, 0:48:21]: to the road. I don't have damage to the sidewalk. [0:48:22, 0:48:22]: And [0:48:24, 0:48:26]: damage to the yards is a is a bare minimum. [0:48:29, 0:48:35]: Councilman Blount, back to you. Got any other questions, sir? Well I I'm I'm looking at it's almost like there's a [0:48:35, 0:48:43]: There's a dire detriment to have this right now. We're in dire straits to have this right now. I've been on this council for five years now. [0:48:43, 0:49:03]: And I'm just trying to figure out why now and how often we would need this. And this I have asked this information actually out of our city manager to get with Mr. Aaron about it because you know we're talking about over$400,000 for a piece of equipment that it sounds like we've we need it like right now. So I'm just trying to still grasp how we've gotten by. [0:49:03, 0:49:06]: [2947.6, 2949.0]: That I mean, that's [0:49:10, 0:49:13]: You know, to to to invest over four hundred thousand dollars in this truck. [0:49:14, 0:49:17]: I I need to make sure that when we talk about being proactive. [0:49:18, 0:49:21]: How do that plan, how does that plan look to be proactive? [0:49:21, 0:49:25]: You know, how how does that look to say you're gonna be proactive with this machinery? [0:49:26, 0:49:27]: Well I don't understand that. [0:49:27, 0:49:31]: Well to me it's proactive, you know, it's better than being reactive. [0:49:32, 0:49:37]: It's better than waiting on a problem to happen where you can go out and do maintenance on lines. [0:49:37, 0:49:44]: Well uh with the jetter we with the current jetter we have now when we clean sewer lines to be proactive. [0:49:44, 0:49:50]: All we're really doing is pushing the debris down the line somewhere else. [0:49:50, 0:50:10]: No, I appreciate that, Brad. But what I'm saying is if you're gonna be proactive with a$400 plus thousand dollar piece of equipment, how does that look? Is there a log or something you all keep to show that you've been proactive? How how do you I I'm just saying that that we've done so much without it. How does proactive look? How do we where are the checks and balances if we're proactive with it? [0:50:10, 0:50:14]: And how how do we know that that we're investing in a four hundred [0:50:14, 0:50:17]: thousand thousand plus piece equipment. [0:50:17, 0:50:19]: that we're going to be proactive with it. [0:50:19, 0:50:21]: How how do we know that? [0:50:21, 0:50:41]: My answer to you, Councilmember Blount, is now we've got the expertise and knowledge to start implementing some things that we didn't have prior. Mr. Mullis has over 30 years of utility maintenance experience. He's worked for private contractors, he's worked for the Make and Water Authority, and he's come in to implement a program that's more proactive than we've [0:50:41, 0:50:52]: had in the past. He's has has experience with this equipment. It's not like it's gonna be sitting around not being used. He can use that machine from 10 to 15 times a week. [0:50:52, 0:50:56]: And one of the main places is Willow Springs subdivision. We put out a bid. [0:50:57, 0:50:58]: Two years ago. [0:50:58, 0:51:04]: 'Cause we need to replace all those services because of substandard material that was used. We're constantly having leaks over there. [0:51:05, 0:51:25]: And it was$1.00 million to replace all those services. But if we got the equipment, we've got the knowledge and the expertise. If we had the equipment, we can go in and replace all of those services for a minimal cost compared to bringing in an outside contractor and having renew all of those services for us, we're gonna be saving that equipment. [0:51:24, 0:51:26]: It will be used. [0:51:26, 0:51:28]: constantly to do our [0:51:28, 0:51:48]: Maintenance and preventive maintenance. We'll keep a law. They'll track it. Mr. Mulliser will track it. And Mr. Holt Singer and Randy Willis as well. We want to be more proactive. We don't want to be reactive because one of the things I know, water leaks happen at the end on opportune time. It's going to be the middle of the night, and we're going to need ex excavation. [0:51:48, 0:52:00]: a water man have the equipment to do it. So now we sitting there, we might run out of water or we might have some other issue. But if we got this equipment on board that we can use [0:52:01, 0:52:05]: At any given time, then I think we're in a better situation. I've been in [0:52:05, 0:52:09]: cities where we run out of water because we didn't have the equipment. [0:52:09, 0:52:14]: to reach a line and we had to let the entire city run out of water so that we can go in and repair it. [0:52:15, 0:52:26]: We just want to be proactive. I know it's an an exorbitant cost, but this equipment is something that's needed. It's gonna be used and it's gonna benefit the city when we be more proactive in maintaining. [0:52:27, 0:52:29]: Our storm drains and things of that sort. [0:52:30, 0:52:30]: Sure. [0:52:31, 0:52:33]: All right. Councilman I Alexander, please. [0:52:33, 0:52:38]: Yes, sir. Uh thank you, gentlemen. You you really hit on some key points there. [0:52:38, 0:52:40]: Talk about uh [0:52:40, 0:52:43]: From a system standpoint. [0:52:43, 0:52:44]: When you have [0:52:44, 0:52:49]: uh this piece of equipment in use in terms of [0:52:49, 0:52:55]: uh best practices is this piece of equipment that you're uh proposing that we bring to the city [0:52:56, 0:52:58]: Is it a best practice? Is that a best practice? [0:53:00, 0:53:00]: Absolutely. [0:53:01, 0:53:08]: Talk about it in terms of how uh uh what makes it a best practice and then the surrounding jurisdictions. [0:53:09, 0:53:12]: Uh I know, for example, Henry County Water Authority and several others. [0:53:12, 0:53:20]: Uh they probably have this piece of equipment uh as well. Uh talk about the other jurisdictions and how they benefit from it. [0:53:21, 0:53:27]: I I can take that. Okay. It's it's as far as the vac units or vac trucks. [0:53:27, 0:53:32]: As as far as them, you know, other places that I have worked, we have set up [0:53:32, 0:53:41]: proactive programs as far as where you go out as far as the water, the sewer, the storm, and you're you're proactive to your infrastructure. [0:53:42, 0:53:47]: What what we're starting to experience in Stockbridge is [0:53:48, 0:53:53]: The proactive part of it has not been there. So when we wind up with [0:53:53, 0:54:04]: issues with sewer, with water or storm, it winds up creating more cost because we wasn't pro we weren't proactive with it in the first place. [0:54:05, 0:54:07]: As as far as the uh [0:54:07, 0:54:09]: The beneficial part of it. [0:54:09, 0:54:14]: All right, say for instance if if I go out in the middle of the night and I'm working on a broke main. [0:54:15, 0:54:17]: All right, I have to call emergency locate. [0:54:18, 0:54:20]: All right, if this road main is on the side of the road. [0:54:21, 0:54:25]: I got an issue with the road, I got an issue with yard, all that, plus the outage. [0:54:26, 0:54:28]: All right, if we have that vacu unit. [0:54:29, 0:54:33]: I don't have to wait on emergency locates. I can go in with that VAC unit. [0:54:34, 0:54:37]: And I can create I can solve the problem real quick. [0:54:39, 0:54:44]: One thing I would like to do with that vac unit as far as being proactive. [0:54:45, 0:54:52]: is set up a valve program to where I can go clean out, locate all of the valves in our system. [0:54:53, 0:54:57]: An issue we're having right now is when I locate a valve. [0:54:58, 0:55:00]: Is cleaning the valve out. [0:55:00, 0:55:06]: And especially on North Henry, we have got some valves that are around 14 foot deep. [0:55:08, 0:55:10]: Which is kind of hard to uh clean out. [0:55:11, 0:55:12]: So um [0:55:13, 0:55:15]: In in essence, talk about um [0:55:15, 0:55:18]: You know, we've experienced [0:55:19, 0:55:20]: Uh, some sewer spills. [0:55:21, 0:55:28]: Lately. I mean, we've had to report. Uh whereas what happens is uh what I see over time. [0:55:29, 0:55:32]: As you say, uh with without the maintenance. [0:55:32, 0:55:39]: it helps contribute to these sewer spills uh uh uh over time. Uh event you know initially [0:55:39, 0:55:52]: uh as maintenance goes and you lack maintenance, it builds up over time and it gets to the point where it cr it actually contributes to the spills. And what you're telling me is that if we had uh this proactive program in place. [0:55:52, 0:55:55]: And that we cleaned out these drains with this piece of equipment. [0:55:56, 0:55:59]: We might be able to lessen the risk of these spills. [0:55:59, 0:56:01]: That that's one hundred percent true. [0:56:02, 0:56:09]: If if you if you create a proactive program to where you go in as far as cleaning sewer lines. [0:56:10, 0:56:15]: cleaning out manholes and stuff like that. If you have an emergency manhole overflow. [0:56:16, 0:56:22]: All right, you could take that back unit out there and you could take that manhole and you could suck out the manhole. [0:56:22, 0:56:30]: And use the jetter part of it to clean the blockage, and that cuts out as far as your collateral damage in the area. [0:56:30, 0:56:36]: All right, as far as storm drain, if you have a backup in a cross pipe that's flooding the road. [0:56:36, 0:56:38]: You could go out there. [0:56:38, 0:56:42]: Use that vac truck and use that jetter to clear that blockage. [0:56:43, 0:56:44]: And your problem is solved. [0:56:45, 0:56:47]: If you're proactive about it. [0:56:47, 0:56:50]: then you don't have to worry about the issues coming up. [0:56:50, 0:57:10]: Absolutely. Based on that particular assessment and that this is a best practice and we're trying to move in that direction of improving uh overall services, just the fact that uh we could actually lessen the amount of those spills. I've often talked about, you know, with what we have in the ground being decades old. [0:57:10, 0:57:13]: Uh, we don't know what the potential risk is and if we can [0:57:13, 0:57:16]: minimize some of that that certainly would [0:57:16, 0:57:19]: be appropriate. Based on that, let's make a motion to move forward. [0:57:20, 0:57:40]: Uh with the purchase. Hold on to the hold. Hold on. Hold on. There's several other council members that w want to speak on this issue before we go there. Well, you can make a motion at any time. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, go ahead, please. Thank you. Uh I definitely want to thank you, gentlemen, for bringing this information forward. [0:57:40, 0:57:43]: I really took some extra time to [0:57:43, 0:58:03]: uh look at the um purpose uh for this uh piece of equipment and i'm going to agree with uh a lot of the comments uh as far as being proactive. Um and I think it also we have to look at this in terms of uh growth. You know, we you know we talked about annexation [0:58:03, 0:58:13]: and and just a whole business of of of growth and growing uh the city of Stockbridge. And I I'm gonna agree with the proaction part of this. [0:58:14, 0:58:17]: What really caught my attention, you know, I um [0:58:17, 0:58:25]: Have the uh don't trash stockbridge initiative. And in that research, I I I detected the [0:58:26, 0:58:37]: The storm drains, uh when the rain water washes uh litter and debris into the drain and and the catch basins, I understand how [0:58:38, 0:58:40]: Uh, if that is not called that. [0:58:41, 0:58:44]: And all of that goes into your uh water system. [0:58:45, 0:58:50]: Um you know, a certain percentage of that actually comes back into [0:58:50, 0:58:57]: uh the water that you uh uses uh you know into your home. So um could could any of y'all sort of speak to [0:58:58, 0:59:06]: That part of as far as the uh the catch basin, because that was one thing that I detected in my research with the uh with the storm drains and how. [0:59:07, 0:59:23]: uh the rain water washes all of that into that system. And I think that's important because when you start talking about your waterways and trash and sewer that goes into your waterways, uh that's that's very important. [0:59:23, 0:59:25]: So can you just sort of speak to that a little bit? [0:59:27, 0:59:28]: Yes, sir. That that's [0:59:28, 0:59:32]: Basically as far as the lines as as far as the proactive side of it. [0:59:33, 0:59:34]: You know [0:59:34, 0:59:37]: We c we can set up a a program. [0:59:37, 0:59:42]: To be more proactive as far as the water, the sewer, the storm, as far as what you're [0:59:43, 0:59:45]: You're elaborating on as far as the storm. [0:59:46, 0:59:55]: You know, it you could go out there, you could be proactive, you could take your catch basins and vacuum them out, clean them out. That way [0:59:55, 0:59:58]: That's that'll create more flow. [0:59:58, 0:59:59]: And a cleaner system. [1:00:01, 1:00:03]: What what I have seen. [1:00:04, 1:00:18]: Now on the storm side, I have seen some drains when it rains hard or when I have a broke main or something like that. You know, I have seen some drains struggling because of blockage, because not being cleaned out. [1:00:19, 1:00:24]: It it would it would eliminate so many problems with the city's infrastructure. [1:00:26, 1:00:28]: Uh last follow up. Um [1:00:29, 1:00:31]: Mr Aaron, can you sort of speak to the [1:00:31, 1:00:33]: to the to the funding and I think that [1:00:34, 1:00:44]: was sort of clear up uh a lot of the, you know, the the the funded source. And I know and I and I read that, but I just want you to share that with um some of the viewing citizens. [1:00:44, 1:00:55]: Yes, Mayor Pro Tam Thomas. Currently the city has$8.8 million three hundred and three thousand seven hundred and forty-one dollars and fourteen cents in the water and sewer fund balance. [1:00:55, 1:01:09]: Once we remove this$406,922, that leaves us with$7,896,$896,819 to continue to do improvements to our water sewer. [1:01:09, 1:01:18]: Infrastructure. And uh and as I said, this piece of equipment, we have the expertise now, someone that's used this equipment for the last [1:01:19, 1:01:22]: Twenty plus years. That's a utility contractor by trade. [1:01:23, 1:01:26]: So he's very capable of establishing. [1:01:26, 1:01:36]: a preventive maintenance program for this piece of equipment. And it's gonna be beneficial to the city because when it rains, everything's float down the road. You see paper and cups and all of that. [1:01:36, 1:01:56]: And the storm drain along with dirt and other things. And over the years, that dirt builds up in that catch basin and water is no longer able to filter through it. Or it takes an extended period of time before the water can filter through it. And we just want to be proactive so we don't have streets flooding and people hydroplaning and things of that nature. [1:01:56, 1:01:56]: Mm. [1:01:57, 1:01:59]: And this piece of equipment will have [1:01:59, 1:02:03]: help eliminate a lot of problems and issues that we currently experience. [1:02:03, 1:02:07]: One one last follow up. I I know Ms. Aaron, you and I have talked about [1:02:08, 1:02:08]: Um [1:02:09, 1:02:12]: curb and gutters in in various neighborhoods. [1:02:12, 1:02:15]: Uh being proactive, how does this play into [1:02:16, 1:02:17]: The фьючер [1:02:17, 1:02:20]: Of Stark Bridge as far as our curbing gutters. [1:02:21, 1:02:35]: Well, Mayor Protein Thomas, as you start installing curb and gutter, now you'll have s a piece of equipment that can clean out those catch basins that are a part of the curb and gutter and it also reduces flooding because you won't have blockages in your infrastructure. [1:02:36, 1:02:37]: Thank you. [1:02:37, 1:02:39]: I yield back, Mr. Mayor. [1:02:39, 1:02:41]: Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [1:02:42, 1:02:43]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:02:44, 1:02:48]: My question is in terms of the maintenance of this piece of equipment. [1:02:49, 1:02:53]: Is the maintenance able to be performed internally? [1:02:53, 1:02:56]: Or will be will we need to um [1:02:57, 1:03:00]: enter into an agreement with someone of some sort. [1:03:03, 1:03:06]: Eighty percent of the maintenance can be performed by me. [1:03:07, 1:03:10]: The other twenty percent would have to be through [1:03:11, 1:03:12]: Someone else. [1:03:13, 1:03:21]: But as far as the routine maintenance, yes, we would we would do the routine maintenance on it as far as cleaning the filters, changing the oils, and cleaning the vac. [1:03:22, 1:03:22]: Okay. [1:03:23, 1:03:23]: Gotcha. [1:03:24, 1:03:26]: Council Councilwoman Gantt, please. [1:03:28, 1:03:38]: Thank you. Um, I just want to thank Public Works for being proactive on this. I think that's something that the council has spoken of on several occasions that we want [1:03:38, 1:03:39]: Um [1:03:39, 1:03:59]: You know, we don't want to wait until something happens where we have to scramble and find a solution. So I'm agreeing with my colleagues here that I think this is an excellent thing. Um, I think I'm the last one to speak right now. Um, all the questions have been asked, including show me the money, that was most important. Um, to me, to me. [1:03:59, 1:04:03]: Make sure that we have the financial ability to do this. [1:04:03, 1:04:11]: Um and so with that mayor, I would like to make a motion that we approve commitment. Council Councilwoman Gantt, stand by please. [1:04:11, 1:04:13]: Uh Councilman uh Blount, you have another comment? [1:04:14, 1:04:17]: Yeah, just a quick question, uh and and and [1:04:17, 1:04:18]: Don't get me wrong, I'm [1:04:19, 1:04:25]: If I get an understanding about something, then I can see the importance of it. So you guys are making this pretty clear, clear, uh [1:04:26, 1:04:28]: But got a question on it. With that equipment. [1:04:28, 1:04:36]: Uh one of the things that I've seen yearly over by the Meramander, just I just wanna know if this equipment is does that. [1:04:37, 1:04:39]: We always smell the sewer over there. [1:04:40, 1:04:43]: Is that something that this truck this truck would [1:04:44, 1:04:49]: uh do something about or what is that? It it's always a sewer smell over. [1:04:49, 1:05:05]: As far as the sewer smell over there, it could be because of that Burke Street line. We're fixing to replace all that. Um that's in the works right now. I think we're waiting on the engineering to finish up the uh plans. [1:05:05, 1:05:06]: But uh [1:05:07, 1:05:10]: I'm not I've hadn't been told of a sewer smell. [1:05:10, 1:05:30]: Yeah, so pretty painting and you'll smell it. Yeah, you go yeah, you can't paint on that corner. You you definitely want to hold that sign a little, you know. All right. Yeah, that's okay. Miss Vanessa Holiday, go ahead, please. Bray, if I could get you to repeat, what was the line that you just named? [1:05:31, 1:05:33]: Over there by the moral that would be in the play. [1:05:33, 1:05:34]: Burke Street. [1:05:35, 1:05:36]: Mm-hmm. Okay. Thank you. [1:05:37, 1:05:46]: Council's got a project on in design for the replacement of the Berk Street sewer main. So that should eliminate a lot of issues we're currently having with that sewer main. [1:05:48, 1:05:55]: Councilwoman Gantt, please excuse me. I'm going back, I'm going back to Councilman Alexander since he originally wanted to make the motion. [1:05:55, 1:06:01]: I'll make the motion to approve what has been suggested by staff adding this piece of equipment. [1:06:01, 1:06:05]: Is there a second. No. My second. Oh, there we go. All right. [1:06:06, 1:06:08]: May the second, and all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:06:09, 1:06:14]: Okay. Unanimous. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Thanks, gentlemen. Thank you for the presentation. [1:06:15, 1:06:19]: All right, uh council consideration to approve task order number 2020. [1:06:20, 1:06:26]: Uh point ten Falcon Design Consultants of East for East Atlanta, North and South Lee Street Roadway. [1:06:26, 1:06:33]: And intersection modifications in the amount of seventy thousand dollars, funding source splots four presented by Mr. Knighton, sir, please. [1:06:34, 1:06:40]: Yes, Mayor and Council, thank you. Um this particular task order is to have Falcon design. [1:06:41, 1:06:45]: Support the efforts of the city and procurement department with respect to [1:06:46, 1:06:48]: uh outlining uh some guidelines [1:06:49, 1:06:51]: And specifications for [1:06:51, 1:06:54]: this roadway project. Uh they have been working on [1:06:55, 1:06:58]: Um the uh roadway project in terms of [1:06:58, 1:07:02]: The overall planning for it. Uh in fact it's uh at I believe G dot [1:07:03, 1:07:07]: uh uh review um right now for the plans for the project. [1:07:07, 1:07:10]: This is to provide the necessary support. [1:07:10, 1:07:16]: uh for uh the bidding process which would need to take place in order for qualified bidders [1:07:16, 1:07:21]: To competitively bid on the actual construction improvements. [1:07:22, 1:07:26]: to East uh Atlanta and also uh to Lee Street. [1:07:27, 1:07:30]: Uh John Palmer is here from Falcon Design if there should be any questions. [1:07:31, 1:07:33]: Mr. Palmer, anything you want to add at this time, sir? [1:07:36, 1:07:39]: You're you muted. You're muted. There you go. [1:07:39, 1:07:59]: Merry Christmas to everybody. Happy holidays to you too, sir. Yeah. Uh we're looking forward to uh we're looking forward to getting these two great projects uh handled uh in coordination with the city's uh staff. Uh you guys have a fantastic procurement staff, by the way. And uh we like to work with them, they're great to work with. So uh looking forward. [1:07:59, 1:08:06]: forward to helping with that and also helping with all the construction management oversight and basically hand you a nice pretty road with intersections when we're done. [1:08:07, 1:08:13]: Outstanding. Councilman Alexander, go ahead, please. Yeah, I want to see hear a little bit more excitement. [1:08:15, 1:08:21]: Y'all not excited enough. You know, I you never even been in that traffic on East Atlanta Road trying to turn right. [1:08:21, 1:08:38]: So I think these citizens will be very excited about it. I know Mr. Knight, he he gives his presentation. He's so professional. But let me tell you, we need to be very excited about the fact that this is super progress in uh adding um. [1:08:38, 1:08:43]: uh connecting that serious bottleneck and east atlanta road and then also [1:08:44, 1:09:04]: Uh added to us as a part of the amphitheater, just uh improving our downtown access in all ways. So I'm excited about it. So I think uh we just want to do a a good job of just letting the citizens know. This is adding the turning lane on East Atlanta Road that y'all have been waiting on for years. [1:09:04, 1:09:07]: years now. So guess what? This is progress. [1:09:07, 1:09:08]: That's all I want to say. [1:09:08, 1:09:09]: It is and if I [1:09:10, 1:09:16]: I'm sorry. Good morning. I was going to say and and to those sentiments of Councilman Alexander, this is a significant project. [1:09:16, 1:09:22]: Obviously that we are seeking to uh facilitate uh via Falcon Design's uh support. [1:09:22, 1:09:26]: It would provide a full turn lane all the way back to uh Love Street. [1:09:26, 1:09:34]: That would allow for the movement, the significant movement of traffic on East Atlanta Road and then also on Lee Street. [1:09:34, 1:09:42]: Northley and South Lee Street, as everyone knows who travels in that area, are not connected. They do not intersect or connected. [1:09:43, 1:09:48]: Uh this would allow for that intersection improvement which would [1:09:48, 1:09:56]: Um significantly improve the facilitation of the traffic network in that area, even absent the amphitheater project. [1:09:56, 1:09:58]: But obviously with the ampathiat of the project. [1:09:58, 1:10:04]: uh thirty two hundred plus seat amphitheater project which which we will uh obviously open next year [1:10:05, 1:10:10]: And the number of people who will come and visit the amphitheater and enjoy the events there and enjoy the downtown. [1:10:11, 1:10:13]: This particular project absolutely is needed. [1:10:14, 1:10:19]: And uh would be a significant component to everything that um I believe the council has as a vision. [1:10:20, 1:10:21]: For downtown improvement. [1:10:22, 1:10:23]: Councilwoman Barber, please. [1:10:27, 1:10:31]: Yes, thank you, Mayor. Um, so this task order I see. [1:10:32, 1:10:36]: Most of the information is pertaining to the scope of work. [1:10:36, 1:10:41]: It's the same as the other task order that was originally submitted. [1:10:41, 1:10:43]: I noticed that on this one. [1:10:44, 1:10:44]: Um [1:10:45, 1:10:48]: The date is December sixteenth. The other one was October. [1:10:48, 1:10:49]: Twenty second. [1:10:49, 1:10:52]: Is there something um significantly different? [1:10:53, 1:10:53]: Um [1:10:54, 1:10:57]: with this one than it was with the other one. I see that verbage. [1:10:57, 1:10:59]: has kind of been changed a little bit. [1:11:00, 1:11:02]: Mr. Knighton, are you able to answer that? [1:11:05, 1:11:07]: You muted, sir. You muted. [1:11:10, 1:11:21]: I'm sorry about that. Um, there are some some changes, but not a major significant change. I think the major issue was we wanted to make sure that we had conversations, further conversations. [1:11:21, 1:11:24]: with procurement staff and with Falcon Design. [1:11:24, 1:11:28]: About the um the oversight of this particular project. [1:11:29, 1:11:38]: Uh everyone fully understands that the procurement division city is overseeing this project, and Falcon is operating in a support role. [1:11:38, 1:11:42]: given their expertise, given their knowledge, and given the fact that they have designed the plans. [1:11:43, 1:11:58]: for the roadways, they obviously uh understand uh the specifications uh uh better than anyone else. And so as this project uh evolves or the bidding process evolves, they would be in the background as a support role. [1:11:58, 1:12:01]: To make sure that um the [1:12:01, 1:12:05]: Questions are properly answered via a technical standpoint, an engineering standpoint. [1:12:06, 1:12:07]: As well as providing [1:12:08, 1:12:15]: Uh, the necessary support for ensuring that any prospective bidders have been properly vetted as well, again, from an engineering and technical standpoint. [1:12:16, 1:12:18]: And so that's the role that they would play. [1:12:18, 1:12:19]: Okay. [1:12:19, 1:12:26]: Or the subject matter expert role is what they're saying. Okay. Thank you for that. I do have um [1:12:27, 1:12:33]: follow up question. So I know that Falcon Design does uh participate in a lot of [1:12:33, 1:12:33]: Um [1:12:35, 1:12:37]: the projects that we have here in the city. [1:12:37, 1:12:38]: Um [1:12:39, 1:12:45]: Is their level of involvement the same as what we're seeing here with this task order? [1:12:46, 1:12:48]: Is there a level of involvement? [1:12:48, 1:12:53]: pertaining to procurement, the same as we're seeing here with this task order. [1:12:54, 1:13:07]: I would I would say that they are they play when when necessary, they may play a role similar similar to this on other projects. And when I say that is again, as you mentioned, that the um [1:13:07, 1:13:08]: The uh [1:13:08, 1:13:14]: uh experts when it comes to their technical expertise. But that would be the role that they would be playing. [1:13:14, 1:13:16]: Um I you know, the [1:13:17, 1:13:17]: B. [1:13:17, 1:13:21]: This particular project is there are some other projects that we deal with [1:13:21, 1:13:26]: Because again they have a a full staff of engineers and technical people. [1:13:27, 1:13:33]: Um, they have the wherewithal and the bandwidth to be able to support to support us in that way. [1:13:33, 1:13:37]: from a technical standpoint. And again, because they have designed [1:13:37, 1:13:46]: the uh roadways on this or roadways and intersection improvements on this particular project. They had intimate knowledge about the project itself. [1:13:46, 1:13:49]: technical specifications that can help support us. [1:13:49, 1:13:54]: um hopefully get a very good and sound uh bidders on this project. [1:13:54, 1:14:01]: Okay, one more question. Um now will any of Falcon Design's employees serve [1:14:02, 1:14:03]: maybe on the evaluation. [1:14:04, 1:14:05]: The selection committee. [1:14:07, 1:14:09]: for this particular solicitation. [1:14:10, 1:14:15]: I would actually uh from my stand from my purely from my standpoint. [1:14:15, 1:14:19]: Um, I would not necessarily mind them being on [1:14:19, 1:14:22]: A review committee because they have the technical expertise. [1:14:23, 1:14:27]: primarily be the staff, and we haven't obviously made that determination. [1:14:27, 1:14:37]: But because they have a certain amount of knowledge uh base uh with respect to the actual um specifications, the bid itself. [1:14:37, 1:14:42]: Um, they would be able to be in a role of where they're betting some of these bidders. [1:14:42, 1:14:44]: provide information back to us. [1:14:44, 1:14:47]: I'm certainly not a expert engineer. [1:14:47, 1:14:57]: They could be in a role where they provide um support to us in making sure that anything that is that the the bidders provide is properly vetted. [1:14:58, 1:15:03]: Um, from a specificity and and technical standpoint. That doesn't necessarily mean they have to be on the review committee. [1:15:04, 1:15:10]: But if there's a question that we may have or a re a review committee may have, I won't be on it, but a review committee member may have [1:15:11, 1:15:17]: they can turn to the um expertise of of Falcon Design engineers to answer that technical question. [1:15:17, 1:15:18]: Rightfully so. [1:15:19, 1:15:21]: Rightfully so. Thank you. I appreciate it. [1:15:21, 1:15:23]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:15:23, 1:15:24]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:15:25, 1:15:29]: Um uh Councilman Alexander, I am uh excited as well. [1:15:29, 1:15:34]: I I I think uh and everyone should understand that you know this order [1:15:34, 1:15:36]: would enhance the [1:15:36, 1:15:40]: Uh, traffic flow in and around City Hall and the amphitheater. [1:15:40, 1:15:42]: I've had a discussion with Mr. Knight and [1:15:43, 1:15:44]: I don't want to [1:15:45, 1:15:50]: Uh what I'm about to talk about is is an additional task order, but I don't want to [1:15:51, 1:16:05]: slow down this one, Mayor. And I know it's a it's a separate issue. I am in favor and I don't know uh Mr. Knighton if you know we could talk about this after this vote. But I just want to bring this up. I had talked to Mr. Knighton about [1:16:05, 1:16:08]: Um add into this task order beforehand. [1:16:09, 1:16:12]: I w I think uh it was not enough time for [1:16:12, 1:16:19]: uh the engineers to to develop uh the scope of work for this, but I spoke to Mr. Knight about [1:16:20, 1:16:21]: Uh a leaf [1:16:21, 1:16:23]: On Uber Uber [1:16:23, 1:16:24]: Um [1:16:25, 1:16:31]: Stationed somewhere in the area of the amphitheater for those participants. [1:16:31, 1:16:35]: that would actually uh take some form of transportation. [1:16:35, 1:16:37]: А ту кам. [1:16:37, 1:16:46]: Uh to the amphitheater. Uh Mr. Knight, could you share that conversation we had with the council and and if that's [1:16:46, 1:17:06]: if if it's need a a new order, I guess if you will, because we don't want to slow this one down. I know we're going to approve this tonight, I hope, but I I do want to sort of um discuss this with the council. So if it's appropriate, you know, the council can um give you some ideal if if they wanted you [1:17:06, 1:17:09]: to to go forward with this uh additional task order. [1:17:10, 1:17:14]: Right. Yeah. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. Yeah, we did have a conversation about that specifically. [1:17:14, 1:17:17]: as it relates to an Uber or Lyft um [1:17:18, 1:17:18]: Um [1:17:18, 1:17:19]: uh area. [1:17:20, 1:17:25]: or designated area that would be on either one of the roadways in particular. [1:17:25, 1:17:28]: uh to allow for um the facilitation of [1:17:29, 1:17:32]: That type of traffic which had become extremely popular. [1:17:32, 1:17:52]: One of the things that we're also looking at is having electric charging stations. That's another conversation too, ensuring that we have some of the new age technology in the amphitheater itself. But I think if if appropriate, we could um address this uh in this particular [1:17:52, 1:17:58]: vote if it is the council's uh desire that uh we also review [1:17:58, 1:18:02]: Um uh any lift or or uh Uber. [1:18:02, 1:18:08]: or any uh other mobility uh apparatus that would access an amphitheater. [1:18:08, 1:18:23]: uh like ours, uh to make sure that there is a designated area for that type of pickup and drop-off, because quite frankly, as you all know, it's becoming extremely popular. And that's the way many people access large-scale venues. [1:18:23, 1:18:43]: Um, although we've got to deal with our parking issue, obviously we have to have on-site parking, but a number of people access via Uber and Lyft. And so if it is the council's desire and you want to include the review of an Uber and Lyft station as a part of this overall review and project, I think that would be appropriate and we could take the necessary steps. [1:18:43, 1:18:44]: Steps to do so. [1:18:44, 1:18:53]: Well stand by one place. Mr. Stand by one place, Mr. Mare Protein. Mr. Williams, as our attorney, is that legally we can do all that? [1:18:54, 1:19:02]: Yes, sir. You could amend the scope of of this particular task order to include that as as a portion of the concept. [1:19:03, 1:19:05]: Mirable Tim Thomas, go ahead, please. [1:19:05, 1:19:08]: Well, Mr. Knight, what I wanna ensure is that [1:19:09, 1:19:13]: This addition scope of work is not going to slow down. [1:19:13, 1:19:20]: Uh this work for East Atlanta Road and Lee Street. I just want to make sure by adding this scope. [1:19:20, 1:19:23]: Uh it's not going to slow down. [1:19:23, 1:19:27]: um the work that we are going to um approve tonight. [1:19:27, 1:19:31]: I would not think so. I would not think it would it would slow it down. I think [1:19:32, 1:19:40]: The the s the magnitude of this project is so great, um uh that uh it would not uh slow down our progress on this project that I could see. [1:19:40, 1:19:47]: Um, I I might refer to uh defer to John, but I would not see it will slow down what we're trying to do with the actual roadway project. [1:19:48, 1:19:54]: Well, I would like to hear from other council members if this is something that we want to uh add to um [1:19:54, 1:20:01]: a scope of work to uh to include uh this type of uh station uh in conjunction with the amphitheater. [1:20:01, 1:20:04]: Stand by please. Mr. Palmer, anything you need to add, sir, at this time? [1:20:05, 1:20:10]: No, I just wanted to make sure we're not gonna change the design of the roadways. Um [1:20:11, 1:20:21]: just but uh because they're designed to meet uh GDOT standard and and the city of Stopridge standards. Um, but I do think it's worthwhile to look at what Mayor Potem is discussing. [1:20:21, 1:20:35]: about a designated area for and it it would primarily be for events only. It wouldn't be for regular daily use, although it could, but it would primarily be for event use. But I would recommend we go ahead and [1:20:35, 1:20:36]: Get this project. [1:20:36, 1:20:38]: At least bid so we can get. [1:20:38, 1:20:44]: the the timeline started for getting construction of the intersections and the improvements. [1:20:45, 1:20:47]: Councilman Blanc, go ahead, please. [1:20:48, 1:20:55]: Um I you know, I I don't know how that would look, uh but I I I look at the model that they have at the uh airport and [1:20:55, 1:20:59]: Uh, I look at the model they have at the hotels, I look at the model they have at the um [1:21:00, 1:21:04]: over at the uh uh Phillips Arena. I guess they changed the name to something else arena now, but [1:21:05, 1:21:10]: When you talk about Ubers and Lyfts, the benefit of Uber and Lyft is to drop you up at the front door. [1:21:11, 1:21:17]: Uh and keep it moving. It's not then they're not stage like taxi cabs used to be. That'll that's old school. [1:21:17, 1:21:34]: Uh when you call an Uber, if you look at your phone, they're nearby and when they get there, you just jump in the car and you keep keep going. That's what the that's what the benefits of driving uh uh getting an Uber or a lip is not to stage them. It's just to when they pull up, you check the tag and you jump in the car and you get going. I mean, I don't want us to [1:21:34, 1:21:37]: uh sit here and and look at how because we're we're we're in a [1:21:38, 1:21:47]: uh kind of a uh s slight conundrum if you will, uh dealing with parking and all that as it is. And I just don't wanna uh since it won't be on the street because we gotta go by uh [1:21:48, 1:21:54]: uh DOT guidelines, uh, where would you put something like that? Now if we're able to [1:21:54, 1:22:00]: go out by the parking uh lots and put in uh like you said something about the uh um [1:22:00, 1:22:04]: charging stations, well that's gonna be in front of a parking space anyway. [1:22:04, 1:22:13]: Um, so that to implement that would be okay. But oop for me, Ubers and Lyfts are so you can get a drop off in front in the front door and you don't have to deal with driving yourself. I mean [1:22:15, 1:22:22]: Mirable Tim Thomas, go ahead, please. Well one thing I discussed with Mr. Knight, we do not want to add to the [1:22:23, 1:22:26]: uh congestion and the traffic um [1:22:26, 1:22:28]: In front of the venue. [1:22:28, 1:22:32]: And I think that's one thing we have to be a little concerned about is the [1:22:32, 1:22:38]: uh traffic congestion if this is in the front of the building. I was somewhat thinking of [1:22:38, 1:22:40]: Uh in the area um [1:22:41, 1:22:52]: on East Atlanta Road near uh Kathy's or near the um the house that we purchased, you know, somewhere in that particular area. But Mr. Knight, I think you can speak to that a little better. [1:22:52, 1:22:59]: Well yeah, I think if again if the council's uh desire with respect to looking at Uber and Lyft sites [1:22:59, 1:23:16]: If you'd go ahead and if you were were inclined to approve this and ask us along with this to review the feasibility of an Uber and Lyft station, I think that would be fine. And therefore we could uh obviously we'd have to have get with the engineers to determine the best or most appropriate uh space for that. [1:23:18, 1:23:20]: Councilman uh Councilwoman Barber, please, go ahead. [1:23:23, 1:23:36]: Catch one bark, there you go. Actually just addressed the question that I had. Is there a cost associated with that, Mr. Knight? With you all just assessing um the feasibility and locations for this? [1:23:37, 1:23:45]: Right. I think if if along with the task order, I think the task order total is seventy seventy thousand. Okay. Seventy thousand. [1:23:45, 1:23:52]: 70,000 total. If you would allow us as a part of this to increase that by say 10%. [1:23:53, 1:23:54]: Or within my authority. [1:23:54, 1:23:59]: Um, it it would be less than that, obviously. But if you allow us to increase that by ten percent. [1:24:00, 1:24:05]: Uh, then I think that we would be able to review that. And I see John nodding his head. I think that would be okay. [1:24:05, 1:24:08]: Um that we will be able to review that as a part of his scope. [1:24:09, 1:24:14]: We could even come up with some concepts, make sure everybody's on the same page where we put it. [1:24:15, 1:24:30]: Okay. Mirable Tim Thomas, go ahead, please. Mr. Night, what kind of motion would be needed tonight to make sure that this additional scope is added to the task order that that we that that we have already reviewed in our booklets? [1:24:30, 1:24:45]: Yes, if you want to approve the task order, including the review of an Uber Lyft uh transportation uh area along with that, or along with this task order. [1:24:45, 1:24:50]: uh with the increase of no more than ten percent, then I think that would be appropriate. [1:24:51, 1:24:54]: Mr. Williams, that sounds good to you legally. [1:24:55, 1:24:57]: Yeah, that all we need is a motion, so move. [1:24:58, 1:24:58]: All right. [1:24:59, 1:25:00]: Don't move, Mayor. [1:25:02, 1:25:13]: Okay. Motion's been made and been seconded. Uh any other comments before we take the vote? Any other uh comments? Mr. Mayor, I I don't believe I heard a second. [1:25:14, 1:25:15]: You did not. [1:25:16, 1:25:17]: Who's second? [1:25:17, 1:25:18]: No one second as of yet. [1:25:20, 1:25:21]: Okay. [1:25:22, 1:25:22]: Sir Second. [1:25:25, 1:25:26]: Yeah. [1:25:26, 1:25:30]: Councilwom uh Councilwoman Barber seconds that I believe. Is that what you're saying? [1:25:30, 1:25:38]: Okay. There's a second. Uh Ms. Barber second that. Okay. Not any other questions or concerns. If not, all in favor motion, please indicate. [1:25:40, 1:25:41]: All polls. [1:25:42, 1:25:49]: No, you I was trying to let you know you you opened it for uh for for me, uh just like any other venue. [1:25:50, 1:25:59]: Uber drops you off in front. And you know, I we have to I just think we have to be careful and cautious on the design of this because we have to maximize the area. So [1:26:00, 1:26:01]: On that but on that note. [1:26:01, 1:26:06]: Once again, let's make sure uh motion was made. It's been seconded. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:26:07, 1:26:08]: One, two. [1:26:10, 1:26:12]: Okay, all opposed the motion. [1:26:15, 1:26:19]: Okay. So motion does not pass. [1:26:20, 1:26:21]: That's correct. [1:26:22, 1:26:22]: Okay. [1:26:23, 1:26:33]: So now that was to add that was in reference to adding things. We go back to I would imagine we go back to the original comment or the the uh the [1:26:33, 1:26:43]: The original motion would have been in reference to the seventy thousand dollars in reference to this tax order. So maybe. Okay. [1:26:44, 1:26:45]: Second is there a second? [1:26:46, 1:26:46]: Second. [1:26:47, 1:26:55]: Uh Councilman Blount seconds. Second. Blount. Okay. Council Blount second that. Okay. Now, all in favor of that motion, please indicate. [1:26:57, 1:26:59]: Two, three, opposed. [1:27:01, 1:27:04]: Okay, Alexander, you're you're a sustaining. [1:27:04, 1:27:05]: Abstaining, I mean. [1:27:06, 1:27:07]: I can't hear you. [1:27:08, 1:27:12]: Uh yes, I abstained from the last vote as well out of abundance of caution. [1:27:13, 1:27:18]: Okay. So this motion uh that passes originally written it was excited about this book. [1:27:19, 1:27:20]: Can you use me? [1:27:21, 1:27:26]: Motion passed. Three three uh zero one. Yes. [1:27:27, 1:27:44]: Is this the same motion that but this the motion the motion the motion I believe Miss Barber made the motion is that right uh Vanessa was it back councilman blind right yeah but what what I'm saying is is that uh I wanna make sure every the whole council knows this the motion that they talked about. [1:27:44, 1:27:46]: With with the uh East Alarm. [1:27:47, 1:27:56]: Yes, he says. Yes, the original task order. Original task order is what we're talking about. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, okay. [1:27:56, 1:28:03]: So that's a three zero one. I don't see Councilwoman Gantt online. Right. It passes three zero one. That's correct. [1:28:03, 1:28:12]: Mirable Tim Thomas, go ahead. Yeah, I I it was a little confusion. I was gonna go back to the addition of motion and ask for a roll call vote. [1:28:12, 1:28:16]: Uh because of the confusion, but uh Mr. William may speak to that, but [1:28:17, 1:28:31]: um just to clear up the confusion. Well the if if you voted for this last motion, sir yourself, Blount and Barber voted. I wanted to go back to the actual the the first motion. I think um I know Mr. Blount asked the question was this [1:28:32, 1:28:32]: The same [1:28:33, 1:28:35]: motion or well just an additional motion. [1:28:36, 1:28:37]: So [1:28:37, 1:28:44]: So the first motion, it appeared to be, and I stand to be corrected by the council members, but it appeared to be two zero two. [1:28:45, 1:28:49]: Two in favor, uh no oppose and and two abstentions. [1:28:51, 1:28:52]: Yeah. [1:28:53, 1:28:53]: Okay. [1:28:54, 1:29:11]: So it didn't pass. So we went back to the very what's on the agenda deals with the taser for the$70,000 for the intersections. And the motion was made by I believe Councilwoman Barber, second by Councilwoman Blount. The motion was uh the we asked I asked for a vote and it went uh three zero one. [1:29:12, 1:29:19]: Mayor Botem Thomas, you, Blount, and Barber all approved that. And Councilman Alexander sustained, abstained. [1:29:20, 1:29:31]: Okay. Yes. All right. That's that's it. 301. We'll move on. That should be clear. New business. Uh thank you by the way, Mr. Palmer. I appreciate your participation, sir. [1:29:31, 1:29:32]: New business. [1:29:33, 1:29:44]: Council consideration to approve the health and wellness agreement in with corporate health partners in the amount of thirty-five thousand two hundred dollars, funding source general front fund presented by Ms. Wheeler, please. [1:29:45, 1:29:50]: Um yes, this is a renewal of our current health and wellness agreement. [1:29:50, 1:29:53]: that we have with corporate uh health partners. [1:29:53, 1:29:57]: Um they provide a full service wellness program for our employees. [1:29:58, 1:30:08]: with monthly coaching sessions one-on-ones. We have uh meal plans, newsletters, challenges, incentive plans, and risk management. [1:30:09, 1:30:11]: uh reports that are given to [1:30:11, 1:30:12]: Um [1:30:12, 1:30:14]: Given to us based on [1:30:15, 1:30:16]: The employees um [1:30:17, 1:30:20]: ongoing development in the pr in the plan. [1:30:20, 1:30:23]: So what I'm asking is council's approval to [1:30:23, 1:30:28]: Um approve this agreement for twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. [1:30:29, 1:30:31]: Thank you. Any questions for Miss Wheeler, Council? [1:30:33, 1:30:36]: If not, I need a motion to accept this proposal. [1:30:36, 1:30:37]: No. [1:30:37, 1:30:38]: Is there a second? [1:30:40, 1:30:41]: Circuit. Yeah. [1:30:42, 1:30:48]: Okay, councilman is out of second debt all right Councilwoman Barber made the motion further discussion. [1:30:50, 1:30:52]: If not all in favor motion, please indicate. [1:30:54, 1:31:04]: Okay, four four zero. Okay. Thank you. Uh council consideration to approve workmen's comp rem uh renewal. Ms. Wheeler, please. [1:31:05, 1:31:10]: We have um a new renewal coming up for twenty twenty one for our workers compensation. [1:31:10, 1:31:11]: program. [1:31:12, 1:31:17]: Um J Smith Lanier is our uh broker in this uh [1:31:18, 1:31:27]: with this insurance company. They have uh given us a different carrier, which has reduced our premium by almost$40,000. [1:31:28, 1:31:34]: Uh, we will receive the same level of service for our employees as it relates to workplace injuries. [1:31:35, 1:31:41]: And so I'm asking the council to approve the amount of eighty-five thousand five hundred and sixty-eight dollars. [1:31:41, 1:31:42]: uh for our workers' comp program. [1:31:43, 1:31:46]: Any council, any question for Miss Wheeler, please? [1:31:47, 1:31:50]: If not, I need a motion to accept this proposal. [1:31:52, 1:32:05]: Your bl your question, Mayor, please. Go. Okay, what's your question, sir? Miss Wheeler, what is different from this than what was already uh established for the work work Ms. Comp? Is there anything different from this or just an increase in in the amount? [1:32:05, 1:32:09]: No, the difference is the amount has the premium has been reduced. [1:32:10, 1:32:15]: By almost forty thousand dollars by them marketing it to a different insurance company. [1:32:16, 1:32:18]: Who will handle all of our workers' uh comp claims? [1:32:19, 1:32:21]: So they have found another company that can do it. [1:32:22, 1:32:22]: Um [1:32:23, 1:32:25]: Атолес кошти на ситі. [1:32:26, 1:32:29]: But provide the same level of service as far as [1:32:29, 1:32:33]: uh making sure our employees get the medical uh [1:32:33, 1:32:34]: Their medical [1:32:34, 1:32:35]: Um [1:32:35, 1:32:37]: Claims approved and [1:32:38, 1:32:44]: And get and get the call you know, whatever we need to bring the employee back to work uh much sooner than later. [1:32:44, 1:32:58]: With the reduced premium is what was the cost last year? It was about a hundred and twenty two thousand dollars. Gotcha. So we're paying sus significantly m less less this year. Okay. Uh so move for me. I mean, is anybody already uh [1:32:59, 1:33:06]: I I got this. I got no problem. So uh the uh any other comments from anybody? If not, I need a motion to accept this proposal. [1:33:06, 1:33:10]: Councilman still moved. Okay, uh Councilwoman Barber, you second that? [1:33:11, 1:33:15]: Yes. Okay, fine. Any further discussion? And if not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:33:16, 1:33:18]: Okay, thank you. Four zero. [1:33:21, 1:33:25]: Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Wheeler. Appreciate your time. [1:33:25, 1:33:39]: Council consideration to approve RFP number 2020-0025P. Johnson controls fire protection facility security equipment, systems and services with related equipment and supplies, the amount of [1:33:39, 1:33:45]: It says funding source here, uh miss uh Mr. Aaron. It doesn't give an actual amount number. [1:33:45, 1:33:48]: So that I have anyway in front of me. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:33:48, 1:33:56]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. We're coming before you tonight uh to ask you to approve this week the uh city's fire panels. [1:33:57, 1:34:01]: and monitoring system it needs to be updated. Technology changes and [1:34:02, 1:34:06]: And in doing so, we need to come into compliance with the current technology. [1:34:06, 1:34:08]: We also have Mr. John Sawyer here. [1:34:09, 1:34:12]: With uh Johnson control any questions? [1:34:13, 1:34:32]: Yeah, I have a f the question, my initial question would be what would be the amount of money? It says funding source dollar. It's no uh what's the number here? Yeah, mayor, I don't know if that uh you may be looking at the actual agenda itself, but on the agenda request form and the booklet, it's it speaks to the m amount, which is$109, okay, four hundred sixty-six dollars and ninety cents. [1:34:33, 1:34:33]: All right. [1:34:34, 1:34:40]: And this uh I'll I'll well I'll let Mr. Sarya speak to this, but I'll I'll I may make comment afterwards. [1:34:40, 1:34:40]: Right. [1:34:41, 1:34:42]: Uh Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [1:34:43, 1:34:52]: Yeah, I have a question. Uh when we looking at this, so what is the scope of the work that's actually gonna be done when you talk about firing um [1:34:53, 1:34:54]: Fire and um [1:34:55, 1:34:58]: Security. What what is the astral scope of work gonna be? [1:35:00, 1:35:07]: Mr. Sar, you want to speak on that? I'd be glad to. I uh thank y'all for having me. The uh so um [1:35:08, 1:35:12]: I've been working with uh facilities manager Gary Smith over the last couple of months. [1:35:13, 1:35:28]: Um y'all have we have on the table with him a proposal for fire alarm systems for six buildings. Um the city has four buildings which currently do not have a fire alarm system at all. Uh the Water Treatment Admin Building, the Ted Strickland Community Center. [1:35:29, 1:35:29]: Um [1:35:30, 1:35:32]: The um the municipal court building. [1:35:33, 1:35:34]: The um [1:35:35, 1:35:40]: on the uh the Henry County Tag Office currently have no system, fire alarm system. [1:35:40, 1:36:00]: The Henry County PD building, which is near the municipal court, and the uh Manders Convention Center, they both have systems which are impaired. The panels there are obsolete uh and they need to be updated. So we've given uh the city proposals to uh install fire alarm. [1:36:00, 1:36:16]: systems in the buildings that do not have fire alarm systems, which would give them that that protection. Of course, you protect the building and you call in the fire department if you have a problem. We put dialers in there, uh a cellular dialer to call the fire department. Um the um [1:36:16, 1:36:36]: The other building, the two that have a current system in them now, we replace the control panel and some other components in the building to make them operational again and also provide a cellular communicator so they can call the fire department and the city if you have a problem. Of course, if it's anything other than an alarm, it's gonna call the facilities department and notify them they got a problem. [1:36:36, 1:36:42]: problem in the building. And then also on the table are some repairs. Um [1:36:42, 1:36:49]: the um the the Manders Convention Center and the um and the um [1:36:49, 1:37:09]: Let's see. And the municipal court building both have sprinkler systems which need repairs. They have deficiencies that need to be corrected. And then there's also some service agreements on the table, which would provide the annual inspections which are required by code to take care of the facilities. That's just just as a brief summary. [1:37:09, 1:37:12]: of of all the the the the work. [1:37:12, 1:37:13]: If you would. [1:37:14, 1:37:24]: I think in your question a couple more questions if you don't mind, Mr. Knight. Go right here, sir. But what are the two buildings you're saying that you need to that you need to uh replace the control panels? [1:37:25, 1:37:29]: Or whatever panels you say you what are the two buildings that you gotta replace panels with? [1:37:29, 1:37:31]: The the Manders Convention Center? [1:37:32, 1:37:41]: Okay. It currently has a panel that's uh that's impaired and cannot be it's not no longer the that panel is obsolete, it's no longer available for replacement. [1:37:41, 1:37:43]: And then the um [1:37:44, 1:37:46]: The um other one is the [1:37:47, 1:37:54]: Henry County PD office. It has it that system is completely gone operational. It's the panel's dead over there. [1:37:56, 1:37:57]: Okay. What [1:37:58, 1:38:06]: With this system, because I was uh I've been uh at a facility before, and I guess it's a question from Mr. Knighton. Uh [1:38:06, 1:38:08]: Is that I was there for a fire alarm. [1:38:10, 1:38:14]: So when the fire department comes, who does a report on what's needed? [1:38:15, 1:38:19]: I'm saying I've been on this council for five years and I had no idea none of these buildings had uh [1:38:20, 1:38:21]: These buildings didn't have uh [1:38:23, 1:38:25]: Uh, you know, they wasn't equipped with firearms. [1:38:25, 1:38:26]: Well I think [1:38:27, 1:38:47]: That um some of them are are obviously impaired, severely impaired, and don't have the current technology. This goes back to the previous discussion we had earlier in the agenda of making sure we're proactive, making sure we get the right equipment in and we come up to um current technology standards. And that's an attempt to do this. I would have I would also [1:38:47, 1:38:50]: Also mention that in your package you should have a detailed [1:38:50, 1:38:53]: listing of all of the items that would actually be [1:38:53, 1:38:58]: implemented in each one of the buildings uh that uh mister sorry mentioned earlier. [1:38:59, 1:39:02]: with specificity about um what would actually be implemented. [1:39:02, 1:39:05]: Um again, you know. [1:39:05, 1:39:07]: Obviously, safety is an important issue. [1:39:07, 1:39:11]: We want to make sure that uh we are safe in all of our buildings and make sure we have [1:39:12, 1:39:17]: uh the most contemporary technology to ensure the safety of staff and visitors alike. [1:39:18, 1:39:23]: Now what about City Hall? Is that is that equipped with fire uh is uh fire alarms? [1:39:23, 1:39:25]: Or we I think that is it up to code? [1:39:29, 1:39:31]: Yes, is my understanding that that is, yes. [1:39:31, 1:39:32]: 'Cause that's not on this list. [1:39:33, 1:39:35]: Yeah, I haven't been asked to look at C often. [1:39:40, 1:39:42]: Any other questions for Mr. Sawyer or Mr. Aaron? [1:39:44, 1:39:44]: I do. [1:39:45, 1:39:46]: Go ahead, Councilwoman Barber. [1:39:46, 1:39:50]: I'd like for him to take a look at City Hall. [1:39:50, 1:39:55]: I'd be glad to. See I I think I think City Hall is fine, but we'll have'em take a look at City Hall. [1:39:57, 1:39:59]: It uh let me let me just say [1:39:59, 1:40:19]: By the way, as a as a side comment, I I commend Stockbridge for do for taking this initiative. Uh I've been in this business for thirty-three years and it's it's rare that I've had the opportunity for a city to come forward and say, we want to proactively look at our fire detection and fire per fire protection systems in buildings. It's [1:40:19, 1:40:24]: It's I can count on one hand the number of times it's happened. So thank you for that. [1:40:25, 1:40:25]: Appreciate it. [1:40:26, 1:40:27]: Any other questions to Doll Council? [1:40:28, 1:40:32]: Just just one last question. I'm I'm sorry. Go right in, sir. Councilwoman Barber, will you sp finish? [1:40:33, 1:40:41]: No, I have one more question. My question was to Mr. Knighton. So um considering the amount of this, um [1:40:41, 1:40:48]: We're not going to competitively bid this? Or is Johnson control already under a contract of some sort? [1:40:51, 1:40:54]: You muted. You muted, sir. You muted. [1:40:55, 1:41:00]: I'm sorry. Yes, Johnson Control has done work for us before and actually I believe we're piggybacking on [1:41:01, 1:41:03]: A national cooperative contract on this one. [1:41:04, 1:41:05]: Thank you. [1:41:05, 1:41:06]: Answers my question. [1:41:07, 1:41:09]: Councilman Blanc, go ahead, please. [1:41:10, 1:41:13]: Now does the county Mr. Knighton, does the county [1:41:14, 1:41:21]: Does the county or I guess we got a fire marshal now? Does the county does an annual inspection of our fire alarms and fire extinguishers? [1:41:21, 1:41:24]: Our our um fire marshal [1:41:25, 1:41:28]: who does um inspections obviously of commercial businesses as well. [1:41:29, 1:41:31]: Also make sure that our buildings are inspected. [1:41:32, 1:41:35]: Part of this conversation, of course, is generated by staff. [1:41:35, 1:41:41]: Various staff members led us to uh this point where we needed to make sure that we addressed this issue. [1:41:41, 1:41:43]: And that's why we're bringing it before you. [1:41:43, 1:41:47]: But our fire marshal would check our buildings, yes. I'm saying prior to [1:41:47, 1:41:50]: Uh our fire marshal was a couple of [1:41:51, 1:41:53]: It should have been Henry County, right? Mm-hmm. [1:41:54, 1:42:07]: Do we have any logs or anything? Because I had no idea that that that that Merle Manders and Ted Strickland and all these places didn't have fire alarms. I'm saying that we didn't get a log from them that we didn't have that in here, those fire alarms. [1:42:07, 1:42:14]: I I honestly can't speak to that issue right now because I don't know. I we could certainly search and find out, but I I don't know that. [1:42:17, 1:42:21]: Is there any way we could find that out? Because um Well we will attempt to find out. Yes. [1:42:23, 1:42:25]: Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [1:42:27, 1:42:40]: Mr. Knighton, I do have a follow-up question though. I'm looking at the agenda and also on the staff recommendation form, if you can make reference to what contract or state contract your Pigadac can offer. [1:42:43, 1:42:44]: Sorry. [1:42:44, 1:42:46]: It's a source well contract. [1:42:46, 1:42:48]: that we're picking backing off of. [1:42:50, 1:43:08]: That's correct. It's it's uh we have uh several source well contracts. We have them for fire, we have them for security, uh, and and HPAC services as well for that part of our business. This is source well contract is uh 031517. [1:43:09, 1:43:13]: Space S G L. That's the that's the source well contract number. [1:43:13, 1:43:15]: Zero three one five one seven [1:43:15, 1:43:16]: S G [1:43:17, 1:43:25]: A space SGL. Space S G L. Oh space. Yeah, yes, ma'am. [1:43:26, 1:43:46]: Council Councilwoman Barber, um the what they since we have three parts of our company, they the the contract number is the same, but they have that space in the SGL that does that that designates my part of the company, which is the fire protection part. And then they have another one for the security part of the company and another one for the HBAC and uh and [1:43:46, 1:43:47]: and building control is part of the company. [1:43:48, 1:43:51]: Okay, but my question was to Mr. Nightingale. [1:43:51, 1:43:55]: Um this doesn't look to be a state. [1:43:55, 1:43:56]: Contract. [1:43:56, 1:44:00]: Or is it am I missing not a s you said a state contract? [1:44:00, 1:44:03]: Yes, you said we were piggybacking. [1:44:03, 1:44:04]: On [1:44:05, 1:44:07]: It's my understanding, this is a national co-op. [1:44:07, 1:44:08]: Cooperative. [1:44:12, 1:44:12]: Thank you. [1:44:16, 1:44:18]: Yeah, the question is for Mr. Sawyer. [1:44:20, 1:44:21]: Worried Mr. Aaron. [1:44:22, 1:44:27]: Okay, if not, can also I need a motion to accept this proposal. Is there a motion? [1:44:31, 1:44:34]: Well the uh Mr. Blount, you're gonna go ahead. [1:44:35, 1:44:42]: Uh what I'm I'm sorry may I was looking at my notes here. Um uh we need the equipment. We need the we need the we need the repairs, uh so moot. [1:44:43, 1:44:44]: Okay, sir a second. [1:44:47, 1:44:48]: Just a second to the motion. [1:44:50, 1:44:57]: I will second this because I know the um need for it. Yes. Councilman Barber second is that any further discussion? [1:44:58, 1:44:59]: If not all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:45:01, 1:45:09]: Okay, thank you. Four zero. Thank you. Mr. Soy, appreciate your time and effort, sir. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you. Thank you. Holidays to you as well. [1:45:11, 1:45:17]: Council consideration to approve RFP number two uh two zero one nine dash zero zero seven p [1:45:18, 1:45:34]: Statewide contract number 99999-001-SPD uh 00000155 for truck chassis, chassis, chassis, and truck bodies. [1:45:35, 1:45:44]: To purchase a landscaping truck in the amount of forty-eight thousand nine hundred ninety-five dollars, funding source public works department budget presented by Mr. Aaron, please. [1:45:45, 1:45:50]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. We're coming before you tonight that to formalize the purchase of [1:45:51, 1:45:59]: The uh landscaping truck, it was a part of the FY 2020 budget. So we're coming for approval to go ahead and purchase the landscaping truck. [1:45:59, 1:46:03]: that will be used to transport personnel and equipment as well. [1:46:04, 1:46:04]: Okay. [1:46:05, 1:46:06]: Question for Mr. Aaron, please. [1:46:08, 1:46:09]: Anybody? [1:46:10, 1:46:13]: If no questions on the emotion to accept the proposal. [1:46:16, 1:46:17]: Is there a motion? [1:46:19, 1:46:22]: Councilwoman Barber, is that a motion? You say so moved? [1:46:22, 1:46:23]: So [1:46:23, 1:46:24]: Okay, is there a second? [1:46:24, 1:46:25]: Thank you. [1:46:25, 1:46:28]: Councilman has that second any further discussion. [1:46:28, 1:46:30]: If not all favor motion, please indicate. [1:46:34, 1:46:35]: I got two, three. [1:46:36, 1:46:39]: Abstain. Okay. Three zero one. [1:46:42, 1:46:43]: Okay. [1:46:43, 1:46:46]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. Thank you, uh Mr. Ern. Appreciate it. [1:46:47, 1:46:47]: Yeah. [1:46:48, 1:46:55]: Council consideration to appoint members of the Main Street Advisory Board presented by Miss Harris Braggs. Um [1:46:56, 1:47:03]: Typically don't we normally have a Zeke session discuss this further and come back out afterwards? Uh at all. [1:47:04, 1:47:10]: I think that we did Mr. Mayor, that that that has been your practice in the past. You're not required [1:47:12, 1:47:16]: Okay. Do that has been your practice in the past? [1:47:17, 1:47:18]: All right. [1:47:20, 1:47:21]: Um [1:47:21, 1:47:23]: Go ahead, Miss Brags, with your presentation, please. [1:47:24, 1:47:44]: Um, good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council members. Um, I come to you to request the reappointment of um two Main Street advisor, current Main Street Advisory Board members, Mr. Shamari Firch, who has who is seeking um the continuance of a two-year appointment. [1:47:44, 1:47:55]: Um, he has served the board for two terms. Um, one that he took over from someone who vacated the position as the financial institution and banking representative on our board. [1:47:55, 1:48:01]: And then he completed his second term or it will be completed on December thirty first of this year. [1:48:02, 1:48:18]: He has been an instrumental part of our work plan development and many of our Main Street projects. He's brought many volunteers from his home bank to assist with Main Street programs, activities, and initiatives. [1:48:18, 1:48:25]: Um, by reappointment, he will be able to see projects like the Aloway Project finished to completion. [1:48:25, 1:48:37]: And he will also be able to see some other programs that were identified in our RSVP planning for downtown also come to fruition as well. [1:48:38, 1:48:51]: Um, he has attended all um requisite Main Street advisory board trainings and would be a great candidate to continue as a representative on the board in the financial institution and banking representative position. [1:48:52, 1:49:00]: The second position that is up for reappointment or has been requested for reappointment is that of Mildred, Miss Mildred Reed. [1:49:00, 1:49:05]: She has served the board first as the DDA representative to our board. [1:49:05, 1:49:06]: I'm gonna write real quick. [1:49:07, 1:49:13]: Can can we go ahead and just uh as you tell one, just go ahead and point so it won't get convoluted together. [1:49:13, 1:49:17]: Can we appoint one and then you give us the other and then we'll appoint the other one? That way we'll have uh [1:49:18, 1:49:35]: Well, what I was gonna ask about since you said that, I was gonna ask the council, do you wanna do this this way or do you wanna do it in a second session? That's that's No, I'm fine with this. Uh but I just wanna if for for the first one, I'm just saying so move for that one. And then you can bring Miss Reed up if you don't mind, Miss Bragg. Is that okay? [1:49:35, 1:49:42]: It's totally whatever your pleasure is, sir. Well yes, move for the first candidate. And the first candidate again, I'm sorry. [1:49:43, 1:49:53]: The first candidate is Mr. Shamari Firch and he will be occupying the financial institution and banking representative position on the Main Street Advisory Board. [1:49:53, 1:49:54]: There you can. [1:49:55, 1:50:01]: Okay. All in favor of accepting Miss First as the as the appointe, please and Mr. Mr. [1:50:03, 1:50:09]: Okay, it's unanimous. Okay, fine. Congratulations to Mr. Firch. Thank you, Mayor and Council. [1:50:09, 1:50:29]: The next position that is up for reappointment is that of Ms. Mildred Reed. She has served the board first as a DDA representative and then as a citizen representative, one of the three citizen representative positions that are available on the Main Street Advisory Board. She also currently serves. [1:50:29, 1:50:38]: As the secretary for the Main Street Advisory Board and has attended all requisite Main Street program trainings. [1:50:38, 1:50:42]: She's seeking reappointment as one of the three citizen positions. [1:50:42, 1:50:46]: Um and she has been in this particular position since two twenty eighteen. [1:50:48, 1:50:57]: All right, um Mayor Pro Tem Thomas Quay, please. Uh Mayor, I move to accept Mrs. Reid as the citizens representative to the Main Street Board. [1:50:57, 1:51:02]: Mr. Blount seconds that any further discussion? And if not, all in favor, please indicate. [1:51:05, 1:51:06]: Okay as unanimous. Go ahead, please. [1:51:07, 1:51:23]: Okay, thank you. And then we also had one additional position that we were seeking to fill. However, I would like to ask that mayor and council table this particular appointment. [1:51:24, 1:51:44]: Though the person is more than qualified to fill the position, there is a question as to whether or not the organization that she represents is within the city limits. There's a question as to whether or not it is within the boundaries of the city or if it actually [1:51:44, 1:51:47]: actually sits an unincorporated stock bridge. [1:51:47, 1:51:50]: It looks like it might be right on the line. [1:51:50, 1:52:02]: between the city and the unincorporated um border. So I would like to get some additional time to vet this further and then come back to you for consideration of this particular position. [1:52:03, 1:52:11]: All right. So be it. Uh I I imagine we don't need a motion for that, uh, Mr. Williams. It's just that that's our desire, so be it. Is that correct? [1:52:12, 1:52:15]: That's correct. No no action is necessary. [1:52:16, 1:52:16]: Okay. [1:52:17, 1:52:23]: All right, thank you, Miss Braggs. I believe uh you have two of the two members uh reinstated, so that's fantastic. Anything else? [1:52:23, 1:52:29]: Yes, sir. Um no I have nothing further. Thank you so much and happy holidays to everyone. [1:52:29, 1:52:30]: We all this you two as well. [1:52:31, 1:52:35]: Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. I'm sorry. Can I ask Ms. Bragg a question? [1:52:36, 1:52:37]: Oh yes, sir. [1:52:38, 1:52:45]: Okay. Talk about those uh a really quick mouth talk about those grants we talked about. How what w how are they moving forward? [1:52:46, 1:52:47]: Um which grant of [1:52:48, 1:53:08]: Over the past couple of months, I've done about four grants. So which one trail grants, yeah. Trail grants. Okay. Um those two particular grants through the Department of Natural Resources, they were submitted in October, and they will not be, we will not hear anything until January on those particular grants. But they have [1:53:08, 1:53:09]: been submitted in due course. [1:53:10, 1:53:10]: Thank you. [1:53:11, 1:53:13]: Thank you, Miss Bryce. Appreciate it. [1:53:13, 1:53:20]: Council Yeah, take care of Council consideration to field a vacancy on the downtown development authority board. Mr. Williams, please. [1:53:23, 1:53:34]: Mr. Mayor, there there's one vacancy on on the board that we're aware of. Um I do not have the list of of candidates. Uh we we would expect that to be discussed in executive session. [1:53:36, 1:53:36]: All right. [1:53:37, 1:53:39]: Okay, we will do that in a second of the session then. [1:53:40, 1:53:59]: Let's okay. And that note. On that note, then uh we'll re we'll take care of that in second session. The next issue dealt with the additional item for discussion, new business, deal with the um the Crown Act that uh Mr. Uh Alexander wanted to have discussion about in reference to um [1:54:00, 1:54:01]: This particular ordinance, I believe it is. [1:54:02, 1:54:15]: Yes, uh just uh a couple of weeks ago, uh Mr. Williams did forward over the Crown Act. Basically what it does is it offers protections uh in the workplace for natural hair. [1:54:16, 1:54:24]: Uh too long and too often uh minorities have been discriminated against in the workplace because of their choice of hairstyles. [1:54:25, 1:54:26]: Especially black women. [1:54:27, 1:54:29]: And uh we want to issue those protections. [1:54:29, 1:54:35]: Uh in the city of Stockbridge, because uh black women should not be forced to relax their hair. [1:54:35, 1:54:50]: If they decide to wear a natural hairdo in in a professional style, that should be sufficient. They should not be uh forced to conform to uh what is considered a European standard uh of beauty. [1:54:50, 1:55:06]: they should be able to embrace their own heritage uh and their own beauty. And those protections are are are offered under the Crown Act. Uh Mr. Williams, could you kind of uh from a legal aspect, could you kind of uh summarize uh the uh [1:55:06, 1:55:09]: The high the points in the Crown Act. [1:55:10, 1:55:18]: Yes, sir. Um the Crown Act stands for the the acronym Crown stands for create a respect for an open world for natural [1:55:19, 1:55:21]: Hair. Um this is a nationwide [1:55:21, 1:55:24]: initiative um that as uh [1:55:24, 1:55:26]: gained momentum. [1:55:27, 1:55:31]: Um again across the nation, and there's even legislation in the United States. [1:55:31, 1:55:32]: Congress [1:55:33, 1:55:35]: To that effect, um basically. [1:55:36, 1:55:39]: The definition um set forth. [1:55:39, 1:55:43]: What is protected in terms of uh hair? [1:55:43, 1:55:46]: Um, cultural hair textures and hairstyles. [1:55:46, 1:55:52]: And if I can read it, um and it but before I read it, I would say while it's based [1:55:52, 1:55:56]: in part on the African American experience, the definition [1:55:56, 1:56:02]: Is not limited to the African American experience, um, but it provides protection to all based on [1:56:03, 1:56:07]: uh cultural hair textures and hairstyles. And so the definition of what would be protected or [1:56:08, 1:56:12]: Hairstyles and hair textures most commonly associated with race or ethnicity, including [1:56:13, 1:56:17]: But not limited to braids, cornrows, locks, bantu knots, afros and twists. [1:56:18, 1:56:22]: Whether or not hair extensions or treatments are used to create or maintain any such style. [1:56:23, 1:56:27]: And whether or not hair is adorned by hair adornments, beads, or head wraps. [1:56:28, 1:56:31]: So that that would be what was is protected. [1:56:31, 1:56:34]: In terms of uh the definition. [1:56:34, 1:56:36]: And uh the [1:56:36, 1:56:43]: The ordinance w would would uh provide f uh as an unlawful business practice any discrimination [1:56:43, 1:56:45]: uh in employment uh based on [1:56:46, 1:56:47]: Uh [1:56:47, 1:56:50]: Uh, protected cultural hair textures and hairstyles. [1:56:51, 1:56:56]: Um, this ordinance also f uh mirrors the ordinance that was adopted recently. [1:56:57, 1:57:02]: by the city of South Fulton, which includes uh protection for unlawful housing. [1:57:02, 1:57:07]: Discrimination um as well as unlawful public accommodation practices. [1:57:07, 1:57:13]: Um so basically, uh any you know, you could not have discrimination. [1:57:13, 1:57:17]: um in housing or in in any sort of public accommodation based on [1:57:18, 1:57:19]: Hairstyle. So [1:57:19, 1:57:22]: That's it in a nutshell. And again, this is um [1:57:22, 1:57:23]: You know, it is a [1:57:23, 1:57:26]: An initiative that's gaining nationwide. [1:57:26, 1:57:33]: momentum and uh Councilman Alexander has requested that we prepare this ordinance for the city of Stockbridge as well. [1:57:34, 1:57:50]: I got my initial question is that say we pass this, whether soup this is a good this supersede anything that any bus private business, whether it would be a nationwide business or any other local business and what they're they're requiring their employees to wear and how they wear their hair. I mean it's gonna supersede that. [1:57:50, 1:57:58]: Can we do that? Yeah, it would st it would establish that as a as a prohibited uh practice in the city of Stockbridge. [1:57:59, 1:58:05]: Do we know of any such instances where this actually's occurred and got legal attention, been in the court, anything like that at all? [1:58:06, 1:58:06]: Uh [1:58:06, 1:58:13]: I'm not familiar with any in the city of Stockbridge, but but anecdotally we've heard of that, you know, across the nation. [1:58:14, 1:58:16]: All right, Mr. Blount, please. [1:58:16, 1:58:36]: I you know, for me, I mean if the if this council w wanted a resolution, that's fine. I wouldn't want to create an ordinance for this. If the state wants to create an ordinance for this to be actually uh something that could be protected and enforced, that's fine. This council is continually uh talked about ordinances that won't be enforced and can't be [1:58:36, 1:58:56]: enforceable so why create it? If the resolution is set forward, set the resolution forward. This is the this the desire of the council. Um I don't think that we right now uh I don't I personally don't know a lot about uh the ins and out when it pertains to the rights of those businesses like you just mentioned mayor uh when it comes to [1:58:56, 1:59:05]: To uh what's allowed or not allowed. Uh we have uh unique people even work for the city that have been uh uh questioned. [1:59:05, 1:59:25]: And so um, you know, I just wanna I I just wanna say if a resolution wanna be prepared, then the this council wants to move forward. But to say an ordinance that can't be enforced, how would you enforce that ordinance? And what uh uh and when you when you talk about litigation, it it why attach the city in an ordinance to something that that that has [1:59:25, 1:59:27]: hasn't been an issue and and can't be enforced. [1:59:29, 1:59:33]: Okay. Any other questions? Thank you, sir. Any other questions, concerns? [1:59:33, 1:59:35]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, Mr. Alzheimer. [1:59:35, 1:59:46]: Yeah, to be honest with you, uh, the business community, yes, we would be tasked with it, but legal-wise, it offers protections for this employee to seek legal remedies of their own. [1:59:47, 2:00:01]: because it is illegal in the city of Stockbridge. So these employees would seek legal re legal relief from the city and through the court system because now we have a law in place that actually prevents it. [2:00:01, 2:00:05]: Putting a resolution in place does not codify it into the law. [2:00:05, 2:00:25]: It's been long enough that we stand with our sisters. Okay. Yes, this uh ordinance does represent absolutely everybody, but we need to understand our sisters in the workplace need protections. Okay. This is a no-brainer for all of us. Okay. It's legal, it's what people are doing. [2:00:25, 2:00:27]: All across the nation to stand. [2:00:27, 2:00:30]: With black women and women of ethnicity. [2:00:30, 2:00:32]: Who work in a corporate workplace [2:00:32, 2:00:35]: Who were told you can't come in here with a nappy head. [2:00:36, 2:00:47]: Okay, we can't have our women be told that. And in the city of Stockbridge, we can stop that and we can stop that right now because we can pass a law, just like the city of South Fulton did. [2:00:48, 2:01:07]: All you need to do is spend a little time online to anecdotally check out the ramifications of what's going on with women losing their jobs, being passed over for promotion, and any such activities going on in corporate America where these women have re sought relief from the court system. [2:01:07, 2:01:25]: uh when they sought relief from the court system and then they had the added protection of a local ordinance, it actually bolstered their case. I'm calling on this counsel to stand with black women and women m of minority today to be able to offer those protections with them. [2:01:26, 2:01:28]: Because the last thing I would want is for a mother. [2:01:29, 2:01:45]: a sister, a daughter, or anybody to lose a promotion or to lose their job or to be passed over for being hired because they chose to wear their hair in a natural hairstyle in 2020 in America. [2:01:45, 2:01:48]: This is a African American council, one hundred percent. [2:01:48, 2:02:08]: Go home and ask your wife. If you don't understand the importance of this, turn over to just turn over in the bed and ask your wife. Ask your girlfriend, ask your sister, ask your daughter. That's all you need to do. They will tell you that these this issue exists. All you need to do is take five minutes to have that conversation. [2:02:08, 2:02:15]: conversation with any woman in your life, okay, a minority, who has faced this in the workplace. [2:02:16, 2:02:34]: where women hear comments like, don't come in here with a nappy head, you need to relax your hair. They've been forced to use all types of relaxers and dyes and everything to form to a Eurocentric type of look where they have to have straight hair. That's not so in many cases, that's not natural. [2:02:34, 2:02:39]: No man has ever had to face that type of scrutiny about our haircut. [2:02:40, 2:02:41]: In terms of [2:02:41, 2:02:45]: Uh men in the workplace of a man wanted to wear dreads in the workplace. [2:02:45, 2:02:49]: And uh did so in a professional manner, it would be okay, it would be legal. [2:02:50, 2:03:05]: those protections are or or offer and remove uh these barriers from minorities all all all over our city and all over the country. Let's for once in our lifetime be a leader in this particular measure. [2:03:05, 2:03:10]: And offer those protections and stand with our most importantly our black women. [2:03:11, 2:03:13]: Mayor. Councilman Mulan go away, please. [2:03:14, 2:03:27]: This by far is not about for me, about whether I stand with black women or not. I support black women all across this city, across this state, and across this nation. I think black women are some of the strongest people in this country. [2:03:28, 2:03:31]: uh the thing that they have whips whip stood over over time [2:03:32, 2:03:42]: My mother was a black woman, believe it or not, is a black woman, and uh I I married a black woman as a wife. So it's not about for me, about whether you support black women or not. [2:03:42, 2:03:52]: For me, it's a I support also businesses. I have not seen this if if state one case where someone uh uh won a case. [2:03:52, 2:04:00]: I mean, go ahead and Google now, but state one case. This is not an issue in the city of Stockbridge. And when we talk about ordinances, [2:04:01, 2:04:04]: I don't think there should even be an ordinance in the city of Stockbridge. [2:04:05, 2:04:11]: I mean if you want to do a resolution in support of of of of of black women with hair, I'll stand with that. [2:04:11, 2:04:15]: But why make an ordinance that now we we we've said over over time. [2:04:16, 2:04:17]: Then no one's enforcing our ordinances. [2:04:18, 2:04:24]: So then why will we put we create another one that won't be enforced once again? It's not about whether we support black women. [2:04:25, 2:04:25]: Course we do. [2:04:26, 2:04:28]: Of course we support black women. [2:04:28, 2:04:33]: We've seen black women rise in this country, even when as a s as a uh uh vice president. [2:04:33, 2:04:44]: elect that will be inducted in in January the twentieth. So it's not about that. I just want to play politics anywhere in this and make a statement when that's not an issue. [2:04:45, 2:04:50]: That's all with with me. It's not about who presenting it. It's just not an issue to make an ordinance. [2:04:51, 2:04:53]: All right, into the comments. [2:04:53, 2:04:53]: Yes, sir. [2:04:54, 2:04:55]: Go ahead. [2:04:55, 2:04:58]: Like I said, it only takes a moment, okay? [2:04:58, 2:05:00]: All you need to do is uh talk turnover. [2:05:01, 2:05:10]: Ask Mary ask your wife, Mr. Blount. Ask your wife. Uh anybody who out here considers, ask your girlfriend or ask anybody. Ask any of the women in your life. [2:05:11, 2:05:14]: Who work in a corporate environment, what it's like. [2:05:15, 2:05:17]: Okay, you can offer those protections. [2:05:17, 2:05:21]: You know, it only takes five minutes to say Brittany Noble Jones. [2:05:21, 2:05:22]: Was told [2:05:22, 2:05:25]: Her natural hair was unprofessional and fired. [2:05:26, 2:05:28]: Fired from her job as a news anchor. [2:05:29, 2:05:34]: Okay. That you you it doesn't take very long in order to do that. In order to do that, okay. [2:05:35, 2:05:40]: And and many a times what you will find out in these situations is the women don't talk about this. [2:05:40, 2:05:41]: Openly. [2:05:42, 2:05:46]: They accept that because they don't want their careers to be sidetracked. [2:05:47, 2:05:49]: Because who wants to be [2:05:49, 2:05:52]: Uh you wanna be a team play. They wanna be a team player. [2:05:52, 2:05:54]: They want to advance their career. [2:05:54, 2:05:58]: They don't want to be seen as the angry black woman in the workplace. [2:05:58, 2:05:59]: So what do they do? [2:06:00, 2:06:08]: What they do is they comply, they continue to straighten their hair and damage it, okay, because that's what the norm is. [2:06:08, 2:06:21]: This is an opportunity to be able to move forward with this resolution and to be able to stick up for our sisters today, like they've been sticking up for us and other minorities. And based on that, I like to make a motion to move forward. [2:06:21, 2:06:24]: We're passing the Crown Act as an ordinance in the city of Stockbridge. [2:06:26, 2:06:27]: Is there a second? [2:06:27, 2:06:29]: There's a second. Any further discussion? [2:06:30, 2:06:36]: Now I'm I'm gonna mention this to you. We've been down this road with ordinances here recently. [2:06:36, 2:06:43]: And you know my actions on those ordinance. And the last time we dealt with this, I mentioned to you the entire audience, the citizens. [2:06:43, 2:06:48]: that I refer not to veto ordinances. I'd rather ordinances pass four or five. [2:06:49, 2:06:50]: Council members. [2:06:51, 2:07:01]: And I've been well stand by a second. Let me finish, please. And I've been informed that I need to be consistent. I've been told that you need to be consistent, Mayor, in what you're doing. [2:07:02, 2:07:04]: So I'm going to be consistent. [2:07:05, 2:07:11]: So please we'll we'll see how this goes. But I've been forced to say, hey, you're gonna be consistent? Yes. [2:07:11, 2:07:12]: And I've mentioned this before. [2:07:13, 2:07:17]: So on that note, I I wanna we'll see what happens here. Miss again, go ahead, please. [2:07:17, 2:07:24]: Thank you. Councilman Alexander, will you consider a resolution instead of an ordinance? My concern is the [2:07:25, 2:07:27]: We're taking on constitutional issues. [2:07:28, 2:07:34]: Um, I support black women or any woman uh of any culture in their hair. [2:07:35, 2:07:36]: One hundred percent. [2:07:36, 2:07:38]: Um I just think that [2:07:38, 2:07:39]: You know, um [2:07:40, 2:07:41]: Although [2:07:41, 2:07:45]: I love and I commend what you're trying to do, the point you're trying to get across. [2:07:46, 2:07:53]: I think that we can do it in a manner where it's not an ordinance, but yet more so a resolution, if you don't mind. [2:07:53, 2:07:57]: Um, I think that, you know, we just had a [2:07:57, 2:07:58]: Um [2:07:58, 2:07:59]: Great. [2:08:00, 2:08:00]: Um [2:08:01, 2:08:03]: Synopsis from Mr. Fan. [2:08:03, 2:08:06]: Um, in regards to economic development. [2:08:07, 2:08:08]: I'm not saying [2:08:08, 2:08:19]: you know, let's hold let's be clear here. I don't really appreciate certain big box stores that that may have certain rights that they are able to do. [2:08:20, 2:08:24]: But I'm telling you that I I think that this is really [2:08:24, 2:08:35]: not the way to go. I think that we should do it based off of if we're gonna be in support maybe of a resolution, but not a law, not an ordinance here in Stockbridge. Um [2:08:35, 2:08:42]: This is something for the Supreme Court to act upon and we can show our support by stating where we stand on it. [2:08:42, 2:08:44]: That's one of my biggest concerns. [2:08:45, 2:08:48]: Let me say let me say this. [2:08:49, 2:08:51]: I don't know necessarily if it's an issue. [2:08:51, 2:08:52]: Here. [2:08:53, 2:08:53]: But [2:08:53, 2:08:54]: If it is. [2:08:55, 2:08:57]: Um I I really don't think it's an issue here. [2:08:58, 2:09:10]: But if it is an issue here and I've heard I've read articles and and about kids going to school and, you know, they weren't allowed to go to school because of their hair was dreaded or whatever the case may be or play ball. [2:09:10, 2:09:15]: And certain people have certain rules for certain reasons, including the NFL. [2:09:15, 2:09:25]: um and everyone else right you get pulled down and it's not a penalty so there are it this is a really big topic and issue [2:09:26, 2:09:26]: Um [2:09:27, 2:09:34]: I support what you're saying and as far as discriminating against someone, but I can't really support [2:09:35, 2:09:35]: Um [2:09:36, 2:09:39]: something that I think the Supreme Court of the United States [2:09:39, 2:09:41]: We'll need to just deal with. [2:09:43, 2:09:48]: Well, what what I will say to that is generally this. This African American Council. [2:09:48, 2:09:52]: If who if we don't do it, who's gonna do it? We uh need to offer protection. [2:09:52, 2:09:56]: Uh to our women, we have an also opportunity to pass a law. [2:09:56, 2:09:59]: Not a resolution, we have opportunity to pass a law. [2:10:00, 2:10:20]: I'm gonna move forward with this motion and then if you decide to uh go against it, then you'll have to explain to the women of this community why you chose not to uh why you chose to uh not support an ordinance protecting black women. I mean you will have to explain that. I'm not going to explain that. [2:10:20, 2:10:40]: That I'm gonna let you explain it. But yes, the law is very important. Black women need protections from these discriminations in the workplace. I don't understand. I thought this would be a no-brainer. We're working. What about a Brown versus Board of Education had a word? We worried about what the Supreme Court was going. [2:10:39, 2:10:46]: To do before it got there. That's not the what that's not the role of the city council. Our job is to offer protections. [2:10:46, 2:10:48]: For citizens who are needing it. [2:10:48, 2:10:51]: Okay, well we got people working. [2:10:51, 2:10:52]: In [2:10:52, 2:10:54]: Industry right here, okay. [2:10:55, 2:10:56]: In different systems. [2:10:56, 2:10:59]: Maybe you should talk to some of the teachers working in in Henry County. [2:11:00, 2:11:10]: Maybe you should talk to some of the uh female lawyers working in Henry County in addition to yourself. Okay, maybe your firm is very tolerant. Some of the firms aren't very tolerant. [2:11:10, 2:11:11]: Okay. [2:11:11, 2:11:18]: So let let let's just let's just say I will give you an opportunity to vote. If you choose to vote against it. [2:11:19, 2:11:23]: Hey, it I d I'll live with it because I be able to say to [2:11:23, 2:11:27]: The black women in this community, I went to bat for you for a law. [2:11:28, 2:11:34]: to protect you because a resolution doesn't really do anything. A resolution can affect city policy. [2:11:34, 2:11:39]: But a resolution is not tangible and you can't affect any change because you cannot [2:11:40, 2:11:44]: Pass a resolution or require a business to do anything, nothing. [2:11:45, 2:11:51]: The resolution is useless against the private industry. It's just a statement of what the city would do. [2:11:52, 2:12:03]: That's why the city of Forth South Fulton passed a ordinance, not a resolution, because the resolution does not offer any protections. [2:12:03, 2:12:07]: That employer could simply say, Well, that's the opinion of the city. [2:12:07, 2:12:09]: That I don't make you straighten your hair. [2:12:10, 2:12:13]: Uh that uh w comments are made by other women in the [2:12:13, 2:12:31]: a office that you'll have nappy. We don't like that in here. I'm sorry. I don't think that's okay. I think that should be illegal and I'll stand by it today and any other day. And no matter how the vote goes, I understand I did my part. I stand by my motion. I'm looking for a second. [2:12:33, 2:12:35]: Motion is already second and bleed by Councilwoman Barber. [2:12:35, 2:12:41]: Yes, um and Mayor, if if you don't mind, and let me if I can rebut that real quick. [2:12:41, 2:12:55]: Councilman Alexander, I again I commend what you're trying to do and what you're trying to make a statement on. But as an attorney and looking into the other businesses here in Stockbridge and anywhere else. [2:12:56, 2:13:09]: There is a way of doing this. You're not I understand you say take a vote and maybe I'm not going to handle, you know, um you're speaking for the black women and I just happen to be a black woman. [2:13:09, 2:13:19]: But all different people of all nationalities, women of all colors, whether they wear dreads or their hair purple, blue, yellow, or green. [2:13:19, 2:13:25]: You're t what you're trying to do is basically state that you're gonna infringe on the businesses rights. [2:13:25, 2:13:43]: and discuss and and to me this is beyond the scope of what Scotbridge is to do. Now I don't have a problem with it. Understand, I respect all African American women. My daughters are African American. I'm an African American and I get it. I get your passion and what you're saying. [2:13:44, 2:13:45]: But this is not the place. [2:13:47, 2:13:48]: I'm going to And that's all I have to say. [2:13:48, 2:13:51]: I'm gonna say I'm trying to protect my daughter. [2:13:51, 2:13:56]: I don't want my daughter fired from her job as her father. You might not have that. [2:13:56, 2:14:05]: Uh feeling uh upon yourself, but I'm trying to protect my daughter to make sure that she don't lose her job. I'm trying to protect my granddaughter with a law. [2:14:05, 2:14:14]: Not with a resolution because when she complains after she got fired from her job and points to the resolution, it ain't gonna help her at all. [2:14:15, 2:14:24]: But if I pass a law and she comes and complains, she has uh the law on her side. That business has violated the law. I call for the vote. [2:14:25, 2:14:27]: Okay, Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [2:14:28, 2:14:29]: I'm good, Mayor. I'm just ready to vote. [2:14:30, 2:14:32]: All right. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:14:34, 2:14:35]: G' oppose. [2:14:36, 2:14:56]: Motion passes three, two. I've already made my comments earlier and uh I'll take the appropriate amount of time and I'll make an adjustment on on what I'm gonna be consistent in what I have been on these last two ordinances. The chances are I'm gonna be consistent. And if I'm gonna tell you it has nothing to do in the sense of being an African American woman since I have a wife and a daughter that are both African Americans. [2:14:56, 2:15:08]: Yeah, ask them. That's what I asked. Hold up, hold up. I didn't interrupt you. I didn't interrupt you. It it passed it passed it passed three two. But since it's an ordinance, I have a I have an optional job. [2:15:09, 2:15:15]: Okay, I was gonna ask what your vote was. Okay, thank you. You abstain, uh Ms. Bunt Bent? [2:15:15, 2:15:17]: Okay. So what is it? [2:15:18, 2:15:19]: Three one one. [2:15:22, 2:15:23]: I see a three one. Okay. [2:15:24, 2:15:25]: All right. [2:15:25, 2:15:26]: So um [2:15:26, 2:15:28]: I I have a pr a probable amount of time. [2:15:29, 2:15:31]: And I'll take the probe of my time I'll think about this. [2:15:31, 2:15:34]: But what I'm gonna tell you, yeah, I've been told you need to be consistent. [2:15:35, 2:15:50]: And if I'm going to be consistent, since I've been told that by the council members, be consistent on this, then I've already stated what I'm chances or what I'm going to do. And I will talk to my wife and my That's all I ask. That's it. I will do that. I will do that. Okay. [2:15:50, 2:15:54]: All right. It passes three zero three one one. [2:15:54, 2:15:56]: Okay, what's next is a public hearing. [2:15:56, 2:16:04]: A public hearing on council's consideration to approve the SDS agreement between the city of Stockbridge and Henry County. Mr. Knighton, please. [2:16:08, 2:16:13]: All right, thank you, Mayor and Council. Um, I'll ask to be able to [2:16:14, 2:16:16]: Share my screen here. [2:16:25, 2:16:29]: Why do they put these things at the top? Thank you. [2:16:36, 2:16:47]: All right, Mayor Council, I assume everybody can see the screen. I will go through this very briefly for the purposes of our viewing audience as it respects to service delivery strategy. [2:16:48, 2:17:01]: Um uh the Service Deliveries Act, uh, as you can see, uh, is provided by uh the state. Uh it was established several years ago to ensure that there was a non-duplication of services. [2:17:01, 2:17:07]: And providing a mechanism to resolve disputes for government service delivery, funding, equity, and land use. [2:17:10, 2:17:16]: Um also as you can see as noted by OCGA 367023. [2:17:16, 2:17:24]: It is to identify all local government services provided within the entire county and the cities, assign responsibility providing those services. [2:17:24, 2:17:29]: Describe funding sources used for paying for those services and create a p plan to implement the assigned [2:17:29, 2:17:32]: Responsibility for future services. [2:17:33, 2:17:38]: Again, to avoid duplication of services, to ensure that infrastructure, for instance, [2:17:39, 2:17:52]: uh is not duplicated. You don't have a water line from Henry County running along the same street for the city of Stockbridge. Obviously that is an issue for taxpayers. And so you this is designed to occur every 10 years or so. [2:17:52, 2:18:01]: To discuss, uh contemplate, and then determine how services are going to be provided and the financing arrangements accordingly. [2:18:01, 2:18:07]: Um re resolve arbitrarily high water and tour differentials of achieve funding equity. [2:18:08, 2:18:11]: and compatible and non-conflicting land use plans, provisions, et cetera. [2:18:14, 2:18:31]: Um it also uh provides um the provides primarily for the benefit of unincorporated uh areas in the counties and shall be borne by the unincorporated area residents. In other words, those services that are solely provided to unincorporated areas. [2:18:31, 2:18:35]: Are born by unincorporated residents for services that are provided by [2:18:36, 2:18:39]: cities, those city residents are to pay those services. [2:18:40, 2:18:51]: Um, in the case that uh the county provides services inside the city, like animal control, for instance, then obviously those city residents would pay for that countywide service. [2:18:53, 2:19:05]: Um, here are funding options consistent with the statute. You can see on the far left uh that's a county service provided to unincorporated area only. County service funded exclusively by the unincorporated area. [2:19:05, 2:19:07]: Through a special service district. [2:19:07, 2:19:13]: Um, there are specific things that are provided only for the county residents, period. [2:19:13, 2:19:17]: Those would be paid for only by the county residents. [2:19:17, 2:19:23]: Then you have certain partial services, some services provided by the county, some provided in certain cities. [2:19:24, 2:19:28]: And so forth. Um, and for those city uh residents. [2:19:28, 2:19:31]: Who are being provided a city service? [2:19:31, 2:19:37]: from the city, they are only to pay for. There's a funding mechanism by which you're only paying for [2:19:37, 2:19:41]: those particular services that you're being uh that you're provided. [2:19:44, 2:19:44]: Yeah. [2:19:47, 2:20:07]: Come back to the main screen here. I would mention simply that uh this has been an ongoing process for the better part of a year and a half, or actually longer than that, where the cities and the county have attempted to work through the various uh areas of provision uh for services uh that are provided. Those uh services [2:20:07, 2:20:13]: Services are numerous as you can see in the packet that you have. They range from everything from [2:20:14, 2:20:21]: Court services to jail services to emergency management to planning and zoning to building permitting. [2:20:21, 2:20:25]: to animal control, uh, to police services. [2:20:26, 2:20:27]: Higher services. [2:20:27, 2:20:30]: numerous services that are all provided. [2:20:30, 2:20:32]: Now via the county. [2:20:32, 2:20:34]: uh and the cities [2:20:34, 2:20:41]: Um one of the major issues that we were trying to work through had to do specifically with how roads would be [2:20:41, 2:20:42]: uh provided for. [2:20:43, 2:20:49]: And the most recent iteration of that would constitute a payment that would be made to the cities. [2:20:49, 2:20:53]: Stock registre would be about three hundred and thirty thousand dollars for one year next year. [2:20:54, 2:20:57]: And then a special service district being set up. [2:20:58, 2:21:05]: Four roads where for all of the county funds that they utilize for county roads that we've set up in that special service district. [2:21:05, 2:21:17]: And the city cities would not pay in to that particular service district. The cities would be responsible for the city roads. [2:21:17, 2:21:19]: Not um the county roads. [2:21:20, 2:21:22]: There's been a question in the past of [2:21:22, 2:21:26]: City residents paying into Henry County for roads. [2:21:27, 2:21:31]: Um and this would provide uh more transparency. [2:21:31, 2:21:34]: I think a clearer path of how roads would be [2:21:35, 2:21:36]: Um paid for. [2:21:36, 2:21:40]: There would be special service districts set up in various areas. [2:21:40, 2:21:42]: including police, fire, etcetera. [2:21:43, 2:21:44]: So for a Stockbridge resident. [2:21:45, 2:21:47]: Stockbridge resident would pay a certain amount. [2:21:47, 2:21:49]: Or in this case, police services. [2:21:50, 2:21:55]: Uh as you know, because Stockbridge does not have a police department, would pay a certain amount, a certain millage. [2:21:55, 2:22:11]: uh for police services. That would be the same as the unincorporated residents. And so the overall unincorporated residents, let me see if I I maybe need to share another screen here, if you would allow me. [2:22:14, 2:22:18]: So if you can see this information here. [2:22:19, 2:22:21]: Gotta move y'all around. [2:22:24, 2:22:27]: If you can see the screen there as I go from [2:22:27, 2:22:29]: Gotta move you all around again, I'm sorry. [2:22:30, 2:22:37]: Um, as you can go from the top general fund, fire, police, um, recreation, and so forth. [2:22:37, 2:22:40]: unincorporated shares and then you can see [2:22:41, 2:22:44]: The total, I'm sorry, let me bring that back. [2:22:45, 2:22:49]: You can see the total county levy or total tax levy. [2:22:49, 2:22:50]: Here. [2:22:50, 2:22:56]: The total county lev levy is here at the bottom, twelve point seven three three. That's what an unincorporated resident would pay. [2:22:57, 2:23:02]: twelve point four oh two is actually what a city of stockbridge resident would pay. [2:23:02, 2:23:09]: For b because of the fact that we have a planning and zoning and permitting departments, we would not pay that particular differential. [2:23:09, 2:23:20]: And so for the services that are provided for the city of Stockbridge, there would be that differential that's paid. The reason why McDonough or Hampton and Locust Grove. [2:23:20, 2:23:22]: Pay a smaller share. [2:23:23, 2:23:32]: is because of course they have um uh respective uh police departments um which they um are accounted for. [2:23:36, 2:23:43]: We've, as I mentioned, had several conversations about this. Um, we think we're in a pretty good place with respect to the cities. [2:23:43, 2:23:50]: Um and their um understanding and relative agreement on the overall service delivery. [2:23:51, 2:23:55]: strategy, how um these different services are provided. [2:23:55, 2:23:57]: And how they would ultimately be funded. [2:23:57, 2:23:59]: uh and ultimately um [2:24:00, 2:24:04]: uh play out over the next several years. I would rema would bind everybody. [2:24:05, 2:24:09]: That of course uh we have been in the better part of a year or so. [2:24:10, 2:24:12]: Um been in a place of [2:24:13, 2:24:16]: Essentially alternative dispute resolution. [2:24:16, 2:24:21]: Um with uh the county, and of course the other cities have been involved as well. [2:24:21, 2:24:24]: And we're essentially coming to the end of that, quite frankly. [2:24:24, 2:24:27]: We're at a position now where um we are [2:24:28, 2:24:29]: Uh um [2:24:30, 2:24:33]: At the point where if a decision is not made soon. [2:24:34, 2:24:37]: Um, then we could be in a place where [2:24:37, 2:24:39]: Um, there could be sanctions levied. [2:24:39, 2:24:42]: For jurisdictions, the county and the cities. [2:24:42, 2:24:45]: Whereby sanctions would be imposed. [2:24:46, 2:25:06]: And certain restrictions would be made on how grants are received or monies are received from the state. The state places these impositions in in order to strongly encourage cities and counties to come together and try to reach certain agreements. And obviously, we've been operating via the [2:25:06, 2:25:07]: Last year or so. [2:25:08, 2:25:10]: In a place where we've been trying to work through [2:25:11, 2:25:15]: Um, all of these uh outstanding issues and come to some place of agreement. [2:25:16, 2:25:19]: I think from the city's perspective, um, we're [2:25:19, 2:25:23]: Uh pretty much there where we want to be in terms of what we think. [2:25:23, 2:25:36]: is an appropriate and fair resolution. Um I believe Locust Grove passed uh theirs uh yesterday, uh yesterday evening, that's their service delivery strategy and then um [2:25:36, 2:25:38]: It's my understanding. [2:25:38, 2:25:44]: that the county may um have a special call meeting. I believe they are gonna have a special call meeting, I believe next week. [2:25:44, 2:25:49]: uh to consider service delivery strategy. I cannot tell you absolutely. [2:25:49, 2:25:54]: That they will pass what we are attempting to pass or the cities. [2:25:55, 2:25:57]: Um have uh in large part [2:25:57, 2:25:59]: uh agreed to in terms of what we think. [2:26:00, 2:26:06]: is an appropriate um service delivery strategy. Not sure what the um counties county will do. [2:26:07, 2:26:09]: I think the vast majority of issues. [2:26:09, 2:26:11]: Uh they are in agreement. [2:26:12, 2:26:18]: But obviously I can't speak to um their particular issues until they uh take some type of vote. [2:26:18, 2:26:22]: and determine what they're going to do uh with it. I think there was some [2:26:22, 2:26:24]: Still some question going back and forth about [2:26:26, 2:26:26]: Um [2:26:27, 2:26:29]: the uh road situation. [2:26:29, 2:26:31]: Uh in particular. [2:26:31, 2:26:38]: Uh so with that, um I would uh allow uh Mr. Williams, our city attorney, to address any matter that perhaps [2:26:38, 2:26:41]: Uh I omitted or anything that uh he would like to add. [2:26:45, 2:26:49]: I really don't have anything to add. I think the city manager [2:26:49, 2:26:53]: covered all the uh basic points. We're we're at a position [2:26:54, 2:26:54]: Um [2:26:54, 2:26:55]: Where [2:26:55, 2:26:57]: As as he indicated. [2:26:58, 2:27:00]: Uh w we're at the end of the line and [2:27:02, 2:27:07]: If we don't get an agreement, then sanctions will go into effect at some point. [2:27:07, 2:27:10]: uh after the new year um [2:27:10, 2:27:11]: For [2:27:11, 2:27:15]: Ninety nine percent of all the issues I think we've resolved. [2:27:15, 2:27:20]: And we're at this last piece about the the transportation uh [2:27:20, 2:27:21]: portion. So [2:27:21, 2:27:22]: Uh [2:27:23, 2:27:26]: You know, you're you're at a situation where if you make a decision [2:27:27, 2:27:32]: Um prior to the the county acting, uh we we have no idea whether they will [2:27:32, 2:27:34]: accept our position or take another [2:27:34, 2:27:36]: uh position and so [2:27:36, 2:27:37]: We really don't know. [2:27:38, 2:27:42]: What to expect because it it's been, you know, the the goalposts have [2:27:42, 2:27:44]: I've moved multiple times with the county. [2:27:44, 2:27:45]: Um [2:27:46, 2:27:46]: You know [2:27:48, 2:27:51]: We have to make a decision and and and and start somewhere. [2:27:53, 2:28:13]: All right, I'll tell you what, um in reference to the three hundred and thirty thousand dollars uh you were mentioned, Mr. Knighton. Now that is maybe I missed this. So I got I wrote down three hundred and thirty thousand dollars. That's for next year, or is that for when is when is what is what's dealing with that number? I slipped my back. Right. That would that would be for one year um until the service. [2:28:13, 2:28:16]: Uh the the special service district is set up. [2:28:16, 2:28:17]: I mean those have to [2:28:18, 2:28:19]: Well, sir. [2:28:19, 2:28:22]: Yes, and those have to be set up in conjunction with [2:28:22, 2:28:25]: Um your tax bill essentially the the tax schedule. [2:28:26, 2:28:30]: um later in the year toward the what August or so when all of that has to be [2:28:30, 2:28:33]: Finalized. I think it has to be finalized by July, I believe. [2:28:34, 2:28:40]: Um that all has to be special service districts have to be set up in conjunction with a tax with your tax billing cycle. [2:28:41, 2:28:49]: So three hundred and thirty thousand for uh for twenty twenty-one is what we're talking about until especially wouldn't be worked out until twenty twenty-two. [2:28:50, 2:28:55]: Correct. Okay. Yes. And that that money comes out of what fund? [2:28:55, 2:29:01]: That would be from the county to us. The county to us. Okay. That's why I was missing county to us. [2:29:01, 2:29:09]: All right. I believe their meeting is on the tw Monday the twenty ninth, I think, at two o'clock tomorrow. I think that's right. Yes. Monday or Tuesday. Okay. And um [2:29:10, 2:29:23]: Now you said they may have a concern about the roads and the transportation aspect where roads were coming in and out of the city to the county. And that would be a concern also, I would think, for all of us in reference to how that's maintained. [2:29:23, 2:29:25]: And in reference maybe [2:29:25, 2:29:34]: Right. I yeah, and and that was a question for me that I I, you know, went back and forth even as late as today. And and Jack Wilson who's been with us, who couldn't be with us tonight. [2:29:34, 2:29:36]: Obviously have been working with this as well. [2:29:37, 2:29:39]: Um, he and I had some further conversations today. [2:29:40, 2:29:42]: The issue for me was you know. [2:29:43, 2:29:45]: County tried to float this idea of [2:29:46, 2:29:52]: You know, uh for certain roadways that are that are in the city limits on both sides, for instance. [2:29:52, 2:29:55]: That that becomes the city's responsibility. [2:29:55, 2:30:01]: And in many cases, you understand because it is in the city that would be the city responsibility, but there's also [2:30:01, 2:30:05]: Um a Henry County Roadmap of twenty nineteen that is also referenced. [2:30:06, 2:30:19]: that designates county roads. My concern initially was, and I think we've got the language in a good place now. My concern initially was Eagles Landing Parkway and Hudson Bridge Road, quite frankly, that have some repairs that need to be done today. [2:30:19, 2:30:23]: That if they became the city of Stockbridge's responsibility next month. [2:30:23, 2:30:30]: then we would be responsible for those roads and making certain repairs on those roads, which we've been asking about for quite some time. [2:30:31, 2:30:33]: It also goes to Patrick Henry Parkway. [2:30:34, 2:30:36]: I'm just I'm I'm just [2:30:36, 2:30:41]: being very direct about this, um Patrick Henry Parkway that may have some [2:30:41, 2:30:44]: repairs that need to be done would fall into that parti that [2:30:45, 2:30:46]: particular category. [2:30:46, 2:30:52]: My concern was that certain roadways then would become stock raisers' responsibility. [2:30:52, 2:30:54]: Та хартерн нецо. [2:30:55, 2:30:57]: That perhaps have not been addressed. [2:30:57, 2:31:00]: And then it would be ours and we would need to address it. [2:31:00, 2:31:03]: By virtue of the language that we worked out through [2:31:04, 2:31:06]: The most recent iterations of [2:31:07, 2:31:08]: The um [2:31:08, 2:31:10]: That particular section. [2:31:11, 2:31:15]: Um and also by virtue of the map, I think we've gotten to a comfort level that um [2:31:16, 2:31:17]: Our particular uh [2:31:18, 2:31:22]: items would be properly addressed as it respects to respect to roads. [2:31:24, 2:31:27]: All right, uh Councilman Blount, I believe you had your hand up next, sir. [2:31:29, 2:31:30]: You you meet it, sir. [2:31:31, 2:31:32]: There you go. [2:31:33, 2:31:44]: Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Uh Mr. Knighton, uh, one of the things about this um SDS paperwork is about 128 pages. So it's kind of hard to go through all that and dissect it at one time, but [2:31:44, 2:31:47]: My my my uh three concerns are [2:31:47, 2:31:52]: Dealing with the roads. We're dealing with the roads because too many times the county has l allowed [2:31:53, 2:31:59]: uh roads and areas that would uh that are within the cities to not be attended to. [2:31:59, 2:32:11]: But now to put it on the cities to now reconstruct areas because it has been lack of uh attention by the county, uh, I I think that that's a in a vital part of this SDS agreement that we need to get cleared out. [2:32:12, 2:32:15]: Uh, when we talk about police services, we are paying more. [2:32:16, 2:32:22]: Uh because we we don't have our own police department, but we have to remember also City of Stockbridge has uh [2:32:22, 2:32:32]: uh a great reduction of services from the police uh when it comes to public safety and the and the and the vital importance of public safety in this in the city of Stockbridge. When we talk about no ordinance enforcement [2:32:33, 2:32:39]: We talk about ticketing that that are removed from the city of Stockbury. When we talk about different other things, I can go on and on. [2:32:40, 2:32:45]: Those services uh need to be associated back to the county until we get our own police department. [2:32:46, 2:32:53]: Uh the third area is when you talk about those areas that are in and out of the city that are that uh the counties, the city and the county to city. [2:32:53, 2:32:56]: I think a IGA needs to be established. [2:32:56, 2:33:09]: uh with the county in order that with an understanding that the city of Stockbridge doesn't just budget to do it all, that is a uh a a shared uh venture, if you will, because the city, one of the things about Henry County, [2:33:09, 2:33:12]: Henry County has one of the highest taxes in the state of Georgia. [2:33:13, 2:33:28]: And when we talk about the city of Stockbridge continu uh with an IGA that we will start taking a rut of uh uh of of uh responsibility as Pundley County because they haven't uh upheld what they their their responsibility to the cities. I'm not for that 100%. [2:33:28, 2:33:30]: So that's all I have to see on there. [2:33:31, 2:33:32]: All right, you know the comments? [2:33:35, 2:33:41]: Ms. McCain. Go right here, please. I don't have any I don't have any comments on this, but when we're done with this topic. [2:33:41, 2:33:43]: I I wanna make a comment if you don't mind. [2:33:44, 2:33:45]: Sure. [2:33:46, 2:33:49]: They know they know the comments at all. All right. So [2:33:49, 2:33:52]: Actually, go right here, please. I'm sorry. [2:33:52, 2:33:54]: Que [2:33:54, 2:34:00]: I got a couple of things. First of all, this is not on Facebook. Okay. We we I'm not sure why. [2:34:00, 2:34:03]: It's not on Facebook, but it's not on the city Facebook page. [2:34:03, 2:34:08]: And I'm not sure what needs to happen in order to make that happen. [2:34:08, 2:34:13]: But you know, as we're talking about the budget and we're talking about this, whatever needs to happen. [2:34:14, 2:34:19]: To get this on Facebook and Zoom and all of the above. [2:34:19, 2:34:27]: I think we want to do that. I I but for some reason it hasn't been there. I'm getting messages from citizens. They got comfortable watching it. [2:34:27, 2:34:29]: On Facebook it's not there. [2:34:30, 2:34:30]: So [2:34:30, 2:34:34]: Yeah, in other words, whatever we need to do in order to do that. And the second question [2:34:35, 2:34:36]: uh із [2:34:36, 2:34:37]: parking enforcement [2:34:37, 2:34:42]: How is that incorporated into this and uh what's the status of it? [2:34:43, 2:34:50]: Parking enforcement would not be included in this. It would be included through another agreement with the Henry County Police Department. [2:34:51, 2:34:54]: Um for their officers to provide that enforcement. [2:34:54, 2:34:57]: My most recent conversations with Captain Blackbridge has been a while. [2:34:58, 2:35:03]: They are ready to to move forward if we need to um uh have them in force parking. [2:35:03, 2:35:04]: They're ready to move forward. [2:35:05, 2:35:10]: Well let's what what what is what do you need in order for us to do that? I thought we had already authorized it. [2:35:12, 2:35:19]: Right. My uh the last latest correspondence I had with the council was this. There was this there was this there was this question. [2:35:19, 2:35:22]: Back in the spring, I believe, about some major rollout. [2:35:23, 2:35:29]: about um information provided to subdivision citizens and so forth about parking enforcement. [2:35:30, 2:35:35]: My latest correspondence, which I believe was about a month ago, if I recall to the mayor and council, was this. [2:35:36, 2:35:36]: I think. [2:35:37, 2:35:41]: I'll just be honest here since we're discussing it. That's probably a little bit too complicated. [2:35:41, 2:35:46]: If the thought and the desire of the mayor of council is to have parking enforcement. [2:35:47, 2:35:49]: And let's put up signs and enforce parking. [2:35:50, 2:35:51]: via the Henry County Police Department. [2:35:52, 2:36:04]: It it to me, it is as simple as that. If that's the desire of the council, obviously there will be information provided via our websites and through our social media platforms to let people know that parking enforcement will take place. [2:36:04, 2:36:08]: That is desired the council to and to include to enforce. [2:36:08, 2:36:09]: So a forced parking. [2:36:10, 2:36:13]: There have been all these conversations before about [2:36:13, 2:36:22]: Uh, how many times a person, for instance, could get a permit to have additional parking in their particular neighborhood or their in front of their particular house? [2:36:22, 2:36:25]: To me, they can do that through some type of online portal. [2:36:25, 2:36:28]: Have perhaps three times per year that they can do that. [2:36:28, 2:36:31]: It can be tracked that way electronically and that's it. [2:36:32, 2:36:35]: Beyond that, to me, I think this probably [2:36:35, 2:36:39]: this discussion, obviously I'll do whatever the mayor and council directs. [2:36:39, 2:36:43]: But if it's something that won that needs to be or the b the council has a desire to do. [2:36:44, 2:36:46]: Relatively quickly, that's the easiest way to do it. [2:36:47, 2:36:54]: Uh in i I thought we had done that. I get an a email from a neighbor at least twice a week about [2:36:54, 2:37:05]: What is going on? You told me. I thought we'd done it. I mean, Miss Clerk, I thought we is there can you shed some light on the fact I thought we had authorized this? [2:37:07, 2:37:23]: Well, actually, Ms. the clerk had her hand up for something totally I was coming to you next. You had your hand up for something else. I'm not sure what it was. I did. I wanted to address uh Councilman Alexander's um question regarding Facebook. We are not Facebook Live. We have not been since the November twenty-fourth meeting. [2:37:24, 2:37:35]: We are using our live streaming service on the city's website. We do have on the Facebook page the link that takes you directly there. [2:37:35, 2:37:40]: or the uh individual can go directly to the city's website and pull it up. [2:37:40, 2:37:47]: It is not uh going to enable us to do both, have it on the website and Facebook Live. [2:37:47, 2:37:50]: But what we did was we posted on Facebook. [2:37:51, 2:37:54]: The link that takes you directly to the live meeting. [2:37:54, 2:37:57]: And I have the live meeting pulled up. [2:37:58, 2:38:01]: on the city's web page. It's showing live. [2:38:01, 2:38:12]: Yeah, the the issue is this. You gotta click on that. Right. You gotta click on the link. Facebook offers engagement. The citizens were engaging, they got used to using it. [2:38:12, 2:38:20]: I don't know. I would like to see it returned to Facebook full time. I don't know what technology is necessary in order to do both. [2:38:20, 2:38:23]: I think we should have both. I don't think it should be one or the other. [2:38:23, 2:38:25]: But I certainly like to [2:38:25, 2:38:35]: do both, maybe the rest of the council members could chime in because folks were actually getting engaged and it's taking our meetings where the people actually are. [2:38:35, 2:38:39]: When people come on the line and they see a link, they may or may not click on it. [2:38:39, 2:38:44]: But if I can take that link and share it live and they can click on it and they can see it right then. [2:38:45, 2:38:52]: Right then and there, they don't have to go through a lot of iterations. They were participating. How many comments we got tonight? Or probably none. [2:38:52, 2:38:58]: I mean, because there's no way to comment during this or to interact. Citizens miss that. [2:38:58, 2:39:18]: I certainly like to return into it, but I would like to follow up on the uh question about the police uh parking enforcement. Stand by the rest of the council thing. Hold on, hold on, stand by one second. First of all, I I think uh well, getting a little off subject seems like in a to a certain degree. Number number two is that I believe what m Miss Holliday mentioned is that you with this new [2:39:18, 2:39:38]: streaming service you can't do the Facebook and a live streaming service on uh simultaneously that's why the connection on the website or on the city website can take you or on web i'm screaming on on on Facebook will take you to this where you can you can listen and see and hear. I don't know about the responding back and forth but but we stream seem like we streamline something here. [2:39:38, 2:39:58]: If we haven't been doing this for uh Facebook for almost a month now in that aspect. Um now I don't know whether those council's got comments on that or not, but uh um okay, Councilman Blount. I'm sorry, Miss Barber, he he had his hand up earlier. I recognize that. Go ahead, Ms. Blount, Ms. Blount. I agree with Councilman Alexander because I I I'm even getting comments tonight. [2:39:58, 2:39:58]: Okay. [2:39:59, 2:40:02]: Uh about people not being able to watch the uh [2:40:02, 2:40:09]: on uh with Facebook. Uh we do have a large uh participating crowd on Facebook. Uh [2:40:09, 2:40:24]: I think we had a place with the city that, you know, if we had to do two, you know, more than one channel of of how we can make it happen, that's the creativity that needs to happen. If we can stream it at on on our website, stream it. But we also should [2:40:25, 2:40:29]: Search out. We got a public information office that can probably tell you how to do it or we got IT. [2:40:30, 2:40:35]: We should be able to do them both. We should be at this point in time during this pandemic. Y'all remember y'all remember that. [2:40:36, 2:40:41]: People are set in and they want to get involved. This is the greatest time to get citizens involved right now while they set in. [2:40:42, 2:40:50]: So uh I I agree. We we need to make it sufficient enough for the citizens to see on Facebook book as well as the uh [2:40:50, 2:40:52]: Uh, the the uh city page. [2:40:53, 2:40:54]: Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:40:57, 2:41:04]: I don't want to sound redundant and repeat what has already been said, but I do support um having this on Facebook. [2:41:05, 2:41:06]: And the city's website. [2:41:06, 2:41:09]: I too have gotten messages from people. [2:41:09, 2:41:13]: Who have gotten used to watching these meetings via Facebook so [2:41:15, 2:41:19]: All right. Any other council comments about this particular subject? [2:41:20, 2:41:23]: Okay, if not, uh two weeks, mayor. [2:41:23, 2:41:43]: Yeah, go ahead. Going back. I certainly would like to see us move forward with that. I can't speak with everybody else. I thought we had voted to do that with the signs and the warnings and everything uh going out. I thought we had wholehearted agreement on that. Am I wrong? Uh I'd like to rehear the rest of the council. I thought we had agreed. [2:41:43, 2:41:44]: [9705.7, 9706.9]: Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:41:48, 2:41:55]: Yeah, I thought we um voted on it earlier this year as well. I support it, of course. [2:41:56, 2:41:58]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [2:42:00, 2:42:03]: May as I recall and one of my concerns was is that [2:42:04, 2:42:05]: I didn't want to see uh [2:42:06, 2:42:06]: A company [2:42:07, 2:42:09]: A toying company having um [2:42:09, 2:42:12]: That that much authority in our city. [2:42:12, 2:42:17]: uh being able to do ride through neighborhoods. I think uh I I don't think all the kinks was knocked out of it. [2:42:17, 2:42:21]: And I think it uh and m Mr. Knight, correct me if I'm wrong at this point. [2:42:22, 2:42:23]: We don't even have a uh [2:42:24, 2:42:27]: Front runner right now for the uh towing company, is that right? [2:42:28, 2:42:34]: I'd have to I selected a full company. Elected one. You know, uh for mine is Mr. Knighton. [2:42:36, 2:42:39]: Oh Ms. Hol uh Miss Holliday? Ms. Holliday, go ahead, please. [2:42:39, 2:42:43]: You selected Swanson back in February. Yeah, so I thought. [2:42:44, 2:42:51]: But but but what I'm saying is it pertaining to that, we never finished the parameter that Swanson would be able to operate. [2:42:53, 2:43:05]: Because when we talked about we we throw so much stuff out on how you, you know, if you if you're able to park on the street, not able to park on the street, how do you establish the left side of the street? None of those things was was was clear. [2:43:05, 2:43:06]: Nothing was clear. [2:43:07, 2:43:08]: No, that's [2:43:10, 2:43:23]: Go ahead, Mr. Knighton. I think he's done. No, I I I'll follow the council's direction, but that was my point before. I think there were too many things from my in my opinion, there were too many things in in and too many ingredients in this. [2:43:23, 2:43:30]: Where it's made things extremely complicated. Parking on one side versus another side. The left side. How many times you can do it and so forth. [2:43:30, 2:43:34]: I mean, I think it it needs to be completely simplified. [2:43:35, 2:43:36]: In order to enforce. [2:43:37, 2:43:41]: And Henry County could write tickets to it as well. Remember that. [2:43:42, 2:43:44]: Uh I like I'd like to hear from Mayor Pro Tem. [2:43:49, 2:43:52]: Membro Tim, do you want to make a comment about this at all? [2:43:56, 2:43:57]: Let me get unmuted. [2:43:58, 2:44:03]: Well, I I expressed some issues before in my particular neighborhood about parking on the street. [2:44:06, 2:44:09]: What I would like to see happen, I'm I'm sort of agreement with Mr. Knighton. [2:44:10, 2:44:12]: We we need to just [2:44:12, 2:44:15]: Okay, we did approve Swanson. I do recall that. [2:44:16, 2:44:17]: But we just need to just [2:44:18, 2:44:20]: Identify exactly what [2:44:20, 2:44:22]: This is [2:44:22, 2:44:27]: Um I don't know what we can say tonight to to go forward. [2:44:27, 2:44:31]: Um, but I'm in agreement with streamlining. [2:44:32, 2:44:35]: Exactly what this policy entails. [2:44:36, 2:44:39]: It it's been, you know, it's been so many opinions. [2:44:39, 2:44:43]: Uh we need to go back into the minutes and really just see what we said, but [2:44:43, 2:44:53]: Um we just need to identify exactly what this policy is and and move it forward. But I do recall we did approve of uh Swanson Toyne, but [2:44:53, 2:44:55]: What were the parameters that [2:44:55, 2:45:03]: you know, how they can come into your neighborhood and talk. Uh and again, I I think that's where it was um it was just too many opinions and we just need to streamline it. [2:45:04, 2:45:07]: Mayor. Uh go ahead, Mr. Blount. [2:45:07, 2:45:18]: Um I'm I'm just trying to say uh is it this is a hearing, right? Public hearing? But this this is a public we got a subject. This is a public hearing reference to S T S. We got on public market. Uh [2:45:18, 2:45:22]: Yeah, really. So uh Mr. Williams, you popped in, sir. You have something you need to say, I believe. [2:45:23, 2:45:25]: Yes, sir. Uh Councilman Blount. [2:45:25, 2:45:30]: hit the nail on the head w uh in terms of getting back to the topic at at hand. [2:45:30, 2:45:31]: Right. [2:45:31, 2:45:36]: You have before you a decision to make on your SDS agreement. [2:45:36, 2:45:36]: Mm-hmm. [2:45:37, 2:45:42]: The city of Locust Grove approved uh a set of documents that called for [2:45:42, 2:45:52]: Uh for transportation tax districts to be established for unincorporated Henry County with a one time payment for twenty twenty one. [2:45:53, 2:45:58]: Um, we don't know what Henry County is going to do. And so you have a decision. You can either [2:45:58, 2:45:59]: False. [2:46:00, 2:46:01]: With locust growth. [2:46:01, 2:46:05]: And and approve a proposal to send to Henry County. [2:46:07, 2:46:13]: Or option two, you wait and see what Henry County does and make a decision accordingly. [2:46:14, 2:46:17]: And so you're you in and this is a decision only you can make. [2:46:17, 2:46:18]: Um it [2:46:18, 2:46:20]: It is he it has been stated [2:46:21, 2:46:27]: Um not in this meeting, but it has been suggested that if you follow suit with locust grove. [2:46:27, 2:46:31]: then you'll be signalling to Henry County, may be sending a a [2:46:32, 2:46:33]: Somewhat strong. [2:46:35, 2:46:37]: signal to encourage them to settle. [2:46:38, 2:46:41]: Along those lines and to accept that proposal. I don't know if they will or not. [2:46:41, 2:46:45]: But that is one line of thinking. So that's a decision you all have to make after this public hearing. [2:46:45, 2:46:48]: Okay, stand by one second, please. Uh Mike, in reference to that. [2:46:49, 2:46:55]: You said locus grove. So what about Hampton and and McDonald's anybody? What have they done thus far? Does anybody know? [2:46:56, 2:46:59]: We we only received the um [2:46:59, 2:47:02]: Document from Locust Grove today at around three o'clock. [2:47:03, 2:47:06]: Okay. Hampton and and uh [2:47:06, 2:47:07]: And McDonough have not. [2:47:08, 2:47:11]: acted yet, but we have been in consultation with them. [2:47:11, 2:47:13]: And they are considering [2:47:14, 2:47:16]: following suit with Locust Grove, but they haven't yet. [2:47:17, 2:47:17]: Right. [2:47:18, 2:47:19]: Mr. Blood, please go ahead. [2:47:19, 2:47:24]: If we're gonna follow suit with Loc Locus Grove, I'd like that for that to also include [2:47:24, 2:47:30]: what we propose a a proposal from us because I want those concerns we just discussed tonight. [2:47:30, 2:47:41]: uh addressed. Uh and let and because I don't want the assumption that the the county's gonna say, oh wow, this you know, we need to do this for the city of Stockbridge. This hasn't happened since [2:47:41, 2:47:43]: Vocês sabem o Calso? [2:47:43, 2:47:58]: But we got we got uh we just discussed discussed some of the our concerns right here tonight. I think that those concerns need to resonate in their decision making when it comes to the city of Stockbridge, not what they're doing with Locust Grove. That that shouldn't be our major stick. [2:47:58, 2:48:00]: We're totally two different types of cities. [2:48:02, 2:48:03]: Councilwoman Kent, go ahead, please. [2:48:05, 2:48:08]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [2:48:09, 2:48:10]: And counsel. [2:48:11, 2:48:14]: The SES agreement has been going on for way too long. [2:48:15, 2:48:17]: It's been going on for years. [2:48:18, 2:48:22]: um more than one year. It's been going on for a while. [2:48:22, 2:48:26]: And at there comes a point where we have to get some type of resolution. [2:48:27, 2:48:32]: resolved in regards to this SDS agreement. Um [2:48:33, 2:48:42]: I know this is a public hearing, but some of the things that triggered me was why are we not talking about some of these things in the executive session? [2:48:42, 2:48:43]: Um, you know. [2:48:44, 2:48:45]: I'm not certain. [2:48:45, 2:48:47]: Especially when it comes to [2:48:47, 2:48:53]: where locust grove is and can someone tell me who's the attorney for locust grove with the STS agreement? [2:48:53, 2:48:55]: It's a Larin Laren Wiggins. [2:48:55, 2:48:56]: Okay. [2:48:57, 2:48:59]: And so [2:49:00, 2:49:10]: Andy Welch is negotiating for it. McDonough and McDonough and Lopez Grove. He's representing McDonough and Lopez Grove. Okay. And where is McDonough on this? [2:49:10, 2:49:11]: And they're [2:49:12, 2:49:13]: I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. [2:49:14, 2:49:20]: I was gonna say the the cities are are together on this particular service delivery strategy. [2:49:20, 2:49:24]: Thank you. So the cities aren't together. That's correct. Yes, the cities are together. [2:49:25, 2:49:31]: And the of course the the the document the service delivery strategy [2:49:31, 2:49:34]: Document has to be agreed upon. [2:49:35, 2:49:40]: by virtually all parties. There's some nuances in the in the language, but basically all parties. [2:49:40, 2:49:43]: have to agree on the service delivery strategy agreement. [2:49:44, 2:49:46]: And so the cities are are. [2:49:46, 2:49:51]: standing together in our agreement with agreement on uh where we are right now. [2:49:52, 2:49:55]: So the cities are in agreement. Everyone heard that, right? [2:49:55, 2:50:06]: The cities are in agreement with where we are right now. And so Locust Grove sent this proposal over. We have one two attorneys, I think, dealing with the SDS agreement. [2:50:07, 2:50:08]: And the cities are on board. [2:50:09, 2:50:18]: Um I for I do understand that we are to protect and serve for the city for our citizens of Stockbridge. And that's exactly what I plan on doing. [2:50:18, 2:50:32]: By all means, this has been going on long enough. And I feel as no offense to the county, but I feel as if they will continue this will continue to string along if we don't do something about this. [2:50:33, 2:50:34]: Okay. [2:50:34, 2:50:36]: That's what I have to say. All right. Good deal. [2:50:37, 2:50:37]: Oh. [2:50:37, 2:50:57]: All right, so this is uh a public hearing. So in this case, uh I need to open up the public hearing for any comments some type of way. Okay. And uh for anybody out then that's listening that has any comments for uh this particular particular SDS agreement. So open that up then. [2:50:57, 2:51:15]: And unless there's someone can tell me if they have any any somehow someone can speak on the com out there that wants to speak for these comments positively, I'd like to hear that or we like to hear that. I can't uh I can't determine that from my location. But Ms. Holiday, you un you unmuted yourself. [2:51:15, 2:51:20]: They can, but there is no one in the QA at this time, Mayor. [2:51:20, 2:51:35]: All right. So if no one there for the comments for, I open it up to comments against. And I guess it's the same answer you just gave me a second ago. There's no one in the QA period for even against. Is this case that's correct? All right. [2:51:35, 2:51:39]: So on that aspect, the um the um [2:51:40, 2:51:43]: after public hearing has been opened and now it's closed. [2:51:43, 2:52:03]: So council, uh in this aspect for what Mr. Knighton has brought forward, uh uh his presentation. Uh uh, if there are no other comments, we need a motion to accept what Mr. Knighton's presented and and so it'll be in in line, I guess, with local scroll and what we think the rest of the cities would be having as well. [2:52:03, 2:52:05]: Yeah, yeah. [2:52:05, 2:52:07]: But this erst müsste ein [2:52:08, 2:52:13]: What's that? What's the question? Yeah, I just I just i is is that the recommendation of the staff? [2:52:13, 2:52:14]: Is that just [2:52:15, 2:52:18]: He kind of presented is that his recommendation? [2:52:19, 2:52:23]: Yes, that's our recommendation and and if if the [2:52:23, 2:52:29]: Council is inclined. I think we've uh Mr. Williams and I, Mr. Wilson and I, city managers and [2:52:30, 2:52:36]: The other attorneys have had several conversations over the last several days in particular, and obviously a number of them before then, and I think that [2:52:37, 2:52:43]: We have come to the conclusion that this probably is the uh best situation at the moment. [2:52:43, 2:52:48]: If you are inclined to approve this, I would ask that you render this language [2:52:49, 2:52:56]: A motion to approve the SDS settlement proposed jointly by the cities and to authorize the mayor to sign the settlement documents and agreements. [2:52:57, 2:53:00]: Subject to final review and approval of the city manager and city attorney. [2:53:01, 2:53:07]: This motion and approval is contingent upon the county approving the settlement documents by December thirty-first, twenty twenty. [2:53:07, 2:53:09]: in the forms proposed by the cities. [2:53:10, 2:53:15]: Um, I would ask if you do are inclined to approve it that you use that language that I just recited. [2:53:17, 2:53:19]: All right, so on that note, uh [2:53:19, 2:53:20]: Mr. Blount. [2:53:21, 2:53:25]: So what what happens to those concerns about the roads? [2:53:25, 2:53:31]: If this as if this goes through because in the SDS agreements for like 10, 15 years, something like that. [2:53:31, 2:53:36]: Ten years, that is correct. I think we've addressed the items that I mentioned to you earlier. [2:53:36, 2:53:39]: Think we've have been addressed by the um [2:53:39, 2:53:41]: Latest iteration of the [2:53:41, 2:53:45]: road section, um, even as late as today. [2:53:45, 2:53:50]: We had several discussions about that. I think we have got that settled in terms of the items. [2:53:51, 2:53:53]: That I addressed earlier and my concerns earlier. [2:53:54, 2:53:57]: those would be addressed via the language that we placed in the um [2:53:58, 2:54:00]: in the uh latest iteration of the documents. [2:54:00, 2:54:02]: Do we have anything in writing? [2:54:03, 2:54:13]: about those issues to say that. Because when we say yes and we come into council and say yes to push it through now, I don't know, I agree with Councilwoman Gann after all these years. [2:54:14, 2:54:17]: And we're going to sit here and say yes. [2:54:17, 2:54:22]: Come January the first, they don't have to do anything if we don't have anything in writing. [2:54:24, 2:54:26]: But those documents are in writing. [2:54:27, 2:54:30]: Not nothing that we're proposing is in writing. [2:54:30, 2:54:46]: Our concerns are not in writing that that that they're gonna f uh address those. What specific concerns are you addressing, sir? We talked about several things. That's correct. That's correct. And what I was stating was those were my concerns. [2:54:47, 2:54:51]: Now I think through the last several days of conversation [2:54:51, 2:54:57]: with the city attorneys, with the city managers, that we were able to successfully address those issues. [2:54:59, 2:55:05]: But what's the outcome of what I'm saying? That's all the SD that's all y'all been doing is talking about the issues. [2:55:05, 2:55:16]: And all we're gonna do is continue to talk about them. And then now we all agree to go ahead and move forward. What resolution gonna be put in place to address those issues? That would be a part of the documents that would be approved. [2:55:17, 2:55:27]: And and the the bottom line is that the county will be responsible for maintaining county roads and and establishing a [2:55:27, 2:55:30]: Special tax district out of which unincorporated [2:55:30, 2:55:33]: County residents will pay those, and then the city. [2:55:34, 2:55:38]: The cities will be responsible for maintaining city roads and to the extent that [2:55:39, 2:55:44]: Uh it's a county road or a portion thereof, the county pays for that and maintains it. [2:55:44, 2:55:52]: What w we will need to have um and and we have discussed language in terms of cooperation where it runs in and out. [2:55:52, 2:55:53]: But ultimately [2:55:54, 2:55:54]: When you [2:55:55, 2:56:00]: If if this were to be litigated and to go the full length of litigation. [2:56:00, 2:56:06]: The end result would be that the county would be responsible for county roads and the city would be responsible for city roads. [2:56:07, 2:56:20]: But but but right now, the responsibility right now is for the dilapidated for for me, Eagles Landing Parkway. So what you're saying, it becomes our problem and it becomes our the taxpayers to to fix it. [2:56:21, 2:56:22]: How are you not saying that, Mr. Wheel? [2:56:23, 2:56:30]: No, the the count the the any portion of Eagles Landing Parkway that's a county road, the county would be responsible for maintaining. [2:56:31, 2:56:36]: There's let me let me'cause I appreciate Councilman Blount's concern as I raised earlier. [2:56:37, 2:56:43]: And I was uncomfortable, very uncomfortable, um, about that whole situation with respects to roads. [2:56:43, 2:56:46]: And I've gotten comfortable uh as late as today. [2:56:46, 2:56:52]: about certain map the maps that we were able to obtain that the Henry County uh maps via the G G DOT. [2:56:53, 2:56:55]: Which has certain designations on them. [2:56:55, 2:56:57]: А звеллес [2:56:57, 2:57:03]: um the language that is um in the uh um road agreements. [2:57:03, 2:57:07]: Now if there is um um [2:57:07, 2:57:09]: Some concern lingering concern. [2:57:10, 2:57:14]: with uh the council about that road issue. [2:57:15, 2:57:16]: We can further. [2:57:17, 2:57:21]: Um, strengthen that in terms of language. We kind of kicked that around earlier today. [2:57:21, 2:57:25]: We think we've got everything covered. We can further strengthen that language. [2:57:26, 2:57:28]: Um to um [2:57:30, 2:57:33]: uh to um without ambiguity [2:57:34, 2:57:34]: Um [2:57:36, 2:57:42]: articulate the city's position as it relates to uh those particular roadways. [2:57:42, 2:57:47]: Mr. Knighton, I would I would I would agree with what Councilwoman Gantt said about [2:57:48, 2:57:56]: Some discussion need to be behind behind closed doors because that's some input I want to put on this, but I don't want to sit here and discuss it now. [2:57:56, 2:57:57]: Because [2:57:57, 2:58:15]: I'm looking at responsibility and I'm looking at what the taxpayers of the city of Stockbridge is supposed to be. It's just quite a few things that that we need to make sure before we all agree to this to this agreement because now, oh, it's a rush now because our back against the wall. But w these issues have been out there since I've been on council. [2:58:15, 2:58:18]: Okay, here's what I'm gonna offer then. [2:58:19, 2:58:21]: Need to discuss it in executive session. [2:58:22, 2:58:23]: Or [2:58:23, 2:58:31]: You can have uh we can have, and this is not for me to determine. I'm just offering this or recommending this. [2:58:31, 2:58:36]: having a special call meeting where we discuss only this service d service delivery issue. [2:58:36, 2:58:40]: Sometime early next week, either Monday or Tuesday of next week. And I mentioned that. [2:58:40, 2:58:41]: Only because [2:58:42, 2:58:45]: That is prior to what the county would be um addressing. [2:58:45, 2:58:47]: Again, I'm just offering that. [2:58:48, 2:58:52]: And understanding that there are certain implications of all of this. [2:58:52, 2:58:56]: Um that um would uh would likely occur. [2:58:56, 2:59:00]: Um if some type of agreement isn't reached uh relatively soon. [2:59:01, 2:59:05]: That doesn't mean that the city should um in any way compromise its position. [2:59:06, 2:59:10]: Uh we haven't done that at all. In fact, the cities believe that this is the best. [2:59:10, 2:59:11]: Probably the best position to take. [2:59:12, 2:59:16]: But if it's a matter of this council not feeling completely comfortable. [2:59:16, 2:59:26]: with everything and needing to ask more questions or needing to obtain more information or to delve into things in a more detail, I want the council to be comfortable with something as significant as this. [2:59:28, 2:59:48]: Member Brothem Thomas Goya, please. Thank you, Mayor. I I would recommend um an executive session um next week. It just appear to be too many questions. And you know, and the only reason I'm sorry to choir, because I'm I'm asking myself a question: why are we just now discussing? [2:59:48, 2:59:56]: Discussing this, knowing that you know the deadline is near. I can't recall the last time we even had this had a discussion. [2:59:56, 3:00:01]: So I I'm just sort of troubled by, you know, this last minute. [3:00:02, 3:00:04]: You know, maneuvering. I I'm just [3:00:05, 3:00:09]: You know, I'm I'm not a last minute kind of person, you know, so but I would recommend [3:00:09, 3:00:13]: sometime next week then we can just sort of just get into it and then we can [3:00:13, 3:00:19]: Finally, just you know, be all in agreement because I don't know if we can be satisfied tonight. I just don't think so. [3:00:20, 3:00:40]: Well, I will tell you that uh the county is meeting on Monday, and I believe it's Monday at morning at 10 o'clock, I believe it is. You see, so uh we can meet next week in a special call meeting. Um, and I don't know what time you want to pick, whether you want to be Monday afternoon, Tuesday, but I believe the deadline is the thirty-first, and so if you want to wait till after [3:00:39, 3:00:48]: today have their meeting, you can we can easily do that as well. Um and have just a uh this this subject, this topic only for us to discuss. [3:00:50, 3:00:56]: You know, so um personally I'm flexible, but uh I don't know what the rest of the desires of the council would be. [3:00:57, 3:01:04]: And and Mr. Mayor, i i if I could just answer at least in part uh the mayor for Tim's question about why. [3:01:05, 3:01:10]: We are where we are and and the the cities have attempted to engage with the county. [3:01:10, 3:01:12]: For months and months and months and months. [3:01:13, 3:01:18]: And so і in in in large part it it's a situation where the county [3:01:18, 3:01:23]: Um, at least through through its staff. I'm not gonna speak to the county commissioners, just has not [3:01:23, 3:01:24]: Engaged. [3:01:24, 3:01:29]: In a way that has been productive, and I'll just leave it at that. [3:01:30, 3:01:33]: So I I guess you're saying it was all intentional. [3:01:34, 3:01:46]: to run up toward the deadline. I'm I'm assuming that can be well I I I we have a special call meeting, we have executive session. I'll see a lot more in in within that context. [3:01:46, 3:01:57]: I'm I'm for Tuesday after uh five or after uh if there's anybody else that got another suggestion, I prefer evening meetings. I'm okay with Tuesday evening. [3:02:00, 3:02:00]: Anybody else? [3:02:01, 3:02:03]: I need to stay. [3:02:04, 3:02:04]: Okay. [3:02:05, 3:02:05]: That's three. [3:02:07, 3:02:15]: So it looks like we'll be meeting um Tuesday evening to deal with this in a special call meeting and go into executive session to discuss this issue. [3:02:15, 3:02:23]: All right. On that note, uh if there aren't any other comments, Mayor. Yes, yes, ma'am. I'm sorry. Mayor, is that a six o'clock meeting? [3:02:25, 3:02:31]: Is that set for six o'clock, please? We can set we can say six o'clock. I think six o'clock would be fine. It's a Tuesday evening. Six o'clock sounds fine to me. [3:02:32, 3:02:35]: Six o'clock, thank you. Six clocks is good. [3:02:36, 3:02:42]: Uh okay. What's left is uh my particular comments. [3:02:44, 3:02:51]: And uh as you well know, s council citizens, we are in the midst of a runoff election. [3:02:51, 3:03:11]: And um this is our last meeting, uh well last public meeting, I guess you may say, other than a special call meeting we'll have. But um so early voting has begun, begun. It began on the 14th of December and ends on 30 December. So uh hopefully the sit all the citizens that are registered to [3:03:11, 3:03:27]: vote you can utilize the constitutional right and go vote in this aspect and uh take care of that business. And as you well know, you have um two Senate elections and a public service commission um election. [3:03:29, 3:03:46]: So we have David Perdue, the incumbent and Republican with his opposition, the Democrat John Ossoff, and of course the uh and the uh incumbent Kelly Leffler, a Republican and her opposition, Democrat Raphael Warnott. [3:03:47, 3:03:50]: It's a constitutional right, folks. Please utilize it. [3:03:50, 3:04:02]: Public Service Commission District 4, incumbent is Lauren McDonald Jr. And he's a Republican and his Democrat opponent is Daniel Blackman. Chairman Fifth is election day. [3:04:03, 3:04:09]: Now in reference to the election, and um I did this last week to probably be the last time I'll be able to do this publicly. [3:04:09, 3:04:23]: You have several different uh locations to go vote for, vote, voting booths to go vote during the um the actual early voting process. The first one, Merle Manor's Conference Center. [3:04:24, 3:04:27]: one eleven Davis Road, Ryan Stockbridge. [3:04:28, 3:04:33]: Fairview Recreational Center, 35 Austin Road, also has a stopridge address. [3:04:34, 3:04:40]: JP Moseley Recreational Center, 1041 Miller's Mill Road, stoppers address. [3:04:42, 3:04:44]: Elections of voter registration main office. [3:04:45, 3:04:48]: Forder forty Atlanta Street in McDonough. [3:04:50, 3:04:52]: You got the local scroll library. [3:04:52, 3:05:00]: 115 ML King Junior Boulevard and Locust Grove. And then a fores and Forsome Hampton Library. [3:05:01, 3:05:14]: 61 McDonald's McDonald Street in Hampton. Now mind you, today is the 22nd. So you can you vote tomorrow and uh from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. [3:05:15, 3:05:25]: And it all in these locations. And uh the twenty eighth to the thirtieth, you can vote for Monday and Wednesday, next week, seven AM to seven PM. [3:05:26, 3:05:37]: And that closes it out for early voting. And then of course you go to your regular polling place on January 5th. If you yet to uh vote early, you must do that. So once again, it's your constitutional right to do so. [3:05:40, 3:05:43]: The other thing we I want to mention to you, of course, is that um [3:05:45, 3:05:46]: COVID nineteen is real. [3:05:48, 3:05:52]: And we're in the r the city, not necessarily city, I would say the county. [3:05:53, 3:05:54]: And um [3:05:55, 3:05:55]: The state. [3:05:56, 3:05:58]: We're in red. Things aren't getting any better. [3:05:58, 3:06:01]: So you have the senior citizen center. [3:06:02, 3:06:03]: Located at um [3:06:04, 3:06:06]: 1050 Florence Lugarity Boulevard. [3:06:07, 3:06:09]: Anyway from Monday to Thursday. [3:06:09, 3:06:13]: Nine AM to three PM. You can go take test it free of charge for COVID nineteen. [3:06:14, 3:06:15]: And [3:06:15, 3:06:19]: Saturdays and actually the Saturdays they're they're now open on Saturdays. [3:06:20, 3:06:24]: nine AM to twelve noon. So the Saturday after Christmas and a Saturday after [3:06:24, 3:06:28]: New Year's, their schedule will be open. You can get yourself a test. [3:06:29, 3:06:37]: 1-800-847-4262. Once again, 1-800-847-4262. [3:06:41, 3:06:55]: Now the county has also established three different mobile training sites, Monday, Wednesdays, and Fridays. And of course, there's only uh Mondays and Wednesdays this week and next week due to due to the holidays. [3:06:56, 3:07:12]: And so on uh Monday you got Hidden Valley Park and 100 Spregnans Memorial Parkway and Stockbridge and to get that particular test. And that's uh nine to three that to be open there. And on Wednesdays. [3:07:14, 3:07:15]: It'll be at the north mount. [3:07:16, 3:07:20]: Carmel Park, 307 North Mount Carmel Road in Hampton. [3:07:20, 3:07:32]: The Friday locations once because once again, because of the holidays, this uh is now gonna be operating. Uh but then again you can still go to the Heritage Park Senior Center, Heritage Senior Center on Saturdays to get tested. [3:07:33, 3:07:42]: Now you well know that the vaccination vaccinations are now um out. They've been approved. The FDA has approved two. [3:07:43, 3:07:45]: major vaccinations currently. [3:07:46, 3:08:06]: And uh yeah, Pfizer Pfizer, and which means that um if once you get well matter of fact, if you decide to get your vaccination and whenever you're you're qualified to do so, the um one second please, the first phase of this deals with healthcare workers and [3:08:06, 3:08:26]: the healthcare community and those partners, long-term care facilities, EMS, and fire first responders, police will be a part of the first iteration of folks to get tested, excuse me, to get the vaccination, provided you want it. I will hope that you would and um then eventually uh we'll look at um [3:08:26, 3:08:46]: um you know educational institutions and and people in the correctional facilities, individuals that are 75 and older, uh, individuals obviously that have underlying health uh problems. And then last uh and and that's the higher risk folks of individuals adults um that the higher risk folks [3:08:46, 3:08:56]: So individuals that are adults below age 65 that have some type of underlying conditions. And then for myself and most likely probably for the council, we'll probably be one of the last group if we decide to take it. [3:08:57, 3:09:17]: And that would uh we recommend that you would, uh, but uh that probably won't occur for us till April sometime. So in the meantime, you still need to wear a a mask when you're out in the public domain, wash your hands, use hand sanitizer when you can't wash your hands and keep your distance as best as possible, six feet from one another when you're in this particular domain. [3:09:17, 3:09:37]: Back to the vaccinations, by the way. Um derma, um, you know, they have to be kept very cold, uh 20 minus 20 degrees to be stored before they're issued to someone. And then if you get the vaccination moderma, you get one vaccination, you get one shot, and then you get [3:09:37, 3:09:40]: have to wait uh twenty eight days later to get the second shot. [3:09:41, 3:09:44]: And so uh Nas for eighteen years or older. [3:09:44, 3:09:57]: uh for this moderma. The Pfizer company shot, it has to be kept at minus seventy degrees. And that's part of what the public health and the medical folks have to keep a minus seven degrees to keep this cold before they give it you the shot. [3:09:57, 3:10:01]: And you get the first shot and then of course twenty one days later you have to go get your other shot. [3:10:02, 3:10:08]: So whoever gives you the shot and whatever shot from whatever company you take, you the second shot has to be from the same company. [3:10:09, 3:10:29]: All right. Uh so this is uh what uh needed to happen. And you probably realize that the uh government and I believe the president hopefully president will sign this, the Congress reached a nine hundred billion dollar uh cobras release package funding in an aspect here. [3:10:29, 3:10:49]: Well, such as you're getting 600 additional$600 direct uh payments to the American public, enhanced employment benefits and assistance for businesses. And I was hopeful that that some of that money obviously go to the uh the public health department and help with our constant, this will help us with a constant battle to deal with. [3:10:49, 3:10:52]: this uh covet nineteen and with the vaccination process and [3:10:53, 3:10:56]: And supporting all these efforts and it's Congress passed it. [3:10:57, 3:11:03]: I obviously been on the call with everybody here, so I don't know if the president signed it yet or not, but he's scheduled. Hopefully he'll sign this with no problem. [3:11:04, 3:11:08]: And it helped relief to put the relief the country needs to get well and get through this pandemic. [3:11:09, 3:11:10]: Uh let's see here. [3:11:13, 3:11:27]: I believe that is all at this time, uh, other than the fact uh that uh in reference my comment, happy holidays, everybody. And you got to keep the faith that 2021 is gonna be a lot better and healthier than 2020. [3:11:27, 3:11:36]: And uh I truly look forward to it to maybe use next year to have our one year delayed centennial celebration. We'll we'll see how that goes as well. [3:11:37, 3:11:42]: Um that's all for my comments at this point. I have an executive session now. [3:11:43, 3:11:49]: We had a council consideration to whack up a council consideration to fill vacancy to down to the Venma Authority. [3:11:49, 3:11:53]: That's the only thing I can think of at this time. If we're gonna do that in the second session, we'll do so. [3:11:53, 3:11:59]: Um in that aspect. Is that desire of the council to go in and talk about this or not? [3:12:01, 3:12:02]: I'm gonna ask him the question actually. [3:12:05, 3:12:22]: We need to go to the zeker session and talk about this. And if that's the case, I need a motion to go to executing session to deal with uh the appointment of individual for the downtown uh uh development authority. Or we don't have to go in a zeker session, we can move on. So what is your desire as counsel? [3:12:23, 3:12:25]: We'll move to the executive session. [3:12:25, 3:12:28]: Okay. Yeah, I need a motion to go to Segold session then. [3:12:31, 3:12:34]: Is there a motion? You make a motion, please. [3:12:35, 3:12:37]: I'm making it for executive session. [3:12:37, 3:12:42]: For litigation personnel actions. Or real estate. And real estate. [3:12:43, 3:12:46]: Uh m Mr. Blount, you so moved that? Is that what you're telling me? [3:12:46, 3:12:47]: Yes. [3:12:47, 3:12:48]: Is there a second? [3:12:48, 3:12:49]: I second. [3:12:50, 3:12:51]: All right, all in favor, please indicate. [3:12:53, 3:12:55]: All favor, please indicate. [3:12:55, 3:12:58]: Mr. Wood Is that anything we need to discuss in executive session, sir? [3:12:59, 3:13:00]: Right. [3:13:00, 3:13:02]: That would be the only issue for tonight. [3:13:03, 3:13:03]: Mm. [3:13:05, 3:13:06]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [3:13:08, 3:13:09]: One [3:13:09, 3:13:11]: Mayor. Yes, sir. [3:13:11, 3:13:14]: Yeah, if if if the other uh I I [3:13:15, 3:13:16]: I want to uh [3:13:17, 3:13:21]: I thought Mr. Williams may have had something he wanted to discuss tonight. Uh but but [3:13:22, 3:13:24]: He's gonna fail anyway, so that's fine. Nice too. [3:13:24, 3:13:26]: Okay, all all opposed. [3:13:28, 3:13:29]: All post. [3:13:31, 3:13:33]: Uh Mr. Alzheimer, are you voting, sir? [3:13:34, 3:13:35]: You for or against. [3:13:37, 3:13:43]: I'm against the second session. Okay, so Zeke session does that does uh fail two to three. [3:13:43, 3:13:52]: Okay, so on that note I have announcements, upcoming uh events. The downtown development authority meeting is at six o'clock. Um [3:13:52, 3:13:53]: Yes, sir. [3:13:53, 3:13:56]: I I hate to buddy in. Um [3:13:56, 3:13:58]: I was trying to unmute myself. [3:13:59, 3:14:01]: I'm okay with [3:14:02, 3:14:05]: Adding that one quick item. [3:14:06, 3:14:08]: to the executive session on Tuesday. [3:14:10, 3:14:25]: I think when we have a special call meeting when special call meeting is supposed to be deal I thought it was supposed to deal with only one topic. I don't know, Mr. Mr. Williams, is that the proper way to do that? I thought it was only one specific topic. You could you could do multiple topics if that was the the will of council. [3:14:25, 3:14:28]: Okay. You had to state why. [3:14:29, 3:14:29]: Okay. [3:14:31, 3:14:40]: All right. So otherwise I guess we can do that in in that uh process uh when we put out a the notice uh of this council if they you know. [3:14:41, 3:14:42]: Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. [3:14:44, 3:14:46]: All right. Um [3:14:46, 3:15:06]: I hear another no other opposition, so I would imagine that will work fine. Anyway, downtown development authority meetings at 6 p.m. the third Tuesday of each month. Youth Council advisory meeting is six thirty by Zoom, uh third Tuesday each month as well. Youth Council meetings at six thirty um also by Zoom at [3:15:06, 3:15:26]: Um third Tuesday of each month. Planning Commission meeting is the 6:30 by Zoom, fourth Thursday of each month. City Council work session meeting, of course, uh the last Tuesday of each month, uh, unless otherwise noted. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting at nine at 9 a.m. second Friday of each month, and City Council meeting. [3:15:26, 3:15:30]: is six PM uh second Monday of each month and that'll be on January eleventh. [3:15:30, 3:15:33]: Which also happens to be the um [3:15:33, 3:15:39]: uh national championship game for football division one. So we'll see how that shakes out for all football fans. [3:15:40, 3:15:47]: And join Stockbridge Councilwoman Yolanda Barber on Saturday, January 9th from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. at Test Strickland Community Center. [3:15:48, 3:15:55]: For her blood drive, community blood drive. And if you had further comments or con any comments or instructions or information. [3:15:56, 3:15:59]: You need to know, call Zovia Peterson at four four [3:16:00, 3:16:03]: Uh five six five five one oh nine. [3:16:03, 3:16:21]: All city offices will be closed Thursday, the twenty December 24th and Friday, the twenty December 25th, observing the Christmas observance of Christmas. And then all city offices will also be closed on Friday, January 1st, observance of New Year's Day. On that note, happy holidays, everybody. [3:16:21, 3:16:23]: Sir I need I need a motion to adjourn. [3:16:24, 3:16:24]: Sure. [3:16:25, 3:16:25]: Yes. [3:16:26, 3:16:29]: Okay, well I do I do intend on having the uh [3:16:29, 3:16:33]: Uh the um service day project on Martin Luther King's [3:16:34, 3:16:36]: Junior uh weekend. [3:16:36, 3:16:38]: Uh on the sixteenth. [3:16:39, 3:16:59]: All right. Well, I'm pretty sure if you get that into the clerk, we'll be able to have that one on meeting on January 11th. Yeah, yeah. It's outside. Uh it should be uh, you know, in social distancing and outside event, it should be okay. So I I will I certainly will get that to it. And President Trump just said he's not gonna sign the veto pack. [3:16:59, 3:17:04]: it but oh really I did not know that until you said because I we've been in this meeting so I don't know. Wow. Okay. [3:17:05, 3:17:06]: Yes, Miss Holiday. [3:17:06, 3:17:07]: Um [3:17:07, 3:17:18]: M I didn't know Mr. Knighton if you wanted to speak to the Planning Commission's um actions where there won't be a um public hearing for the rezoning item on the 11th. [3:17:19, 3:17:20]: Of January. [3:17:22, 3:17:29]: Right. Uh well, yeah, we need to we'll need to probably address that with the council and the public. I think some things were still [3:17:30, 3:17:32]: Uh in flux, but likely that would not I'm sorry. [3:17:33, 3:17:37]: That's right. That will not be on January 11th, that particular public hearing item. [3:17:37, 3:17:40]: Related to Brandon Road and also uh Walt Stevens. [3:17:41, 3:17:45]: Uh, there were two items a rezoning proposed on Brandon Road, and then one. [3:17:45, 3:17:51]: zoning modification proposed on uh off of Walt Stevens uh parkway fairly significant area. [3:17:52, 3:17:56]: uh near Walt Steven Spear Road and so forth. So those items were actually [3:17:56, 3:17:57]: Um [3:17:58, 3:17:59]: Tabled. [3:17:59, 3:18:11]: At the planning commission meeting on the seventeenth and so we'll they will not occur on January the eleventh and we'll provide more information to the public uh when those will be scheduled with the planning commission and subsequently with the city council. [3:18:11, 3:18:15]: All right. On that note, I need a motion to adjourn adjourn our meeting. [3:18:16, 3:18:16]: So moved. [3:18:17, 3:18:18]: Is there a second? [3:18:18, 3:18:18]: There you go. [3:18:19, 3:18:20]: All in favor, please indicate. [3:18:22, 3:18:25]: Happy holidays, everybody. Good night. Happy holidays. Happy holidays. [3:18:26, 3:18:32]: Who was the second? Me. Second one. Okay, thank you. [3:18:35, 3:18:35]: Right.
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    --- title: Planning Commission Meeting Via Zoom date: 2020-12-17 source: 2020-12-17_Planning_Commission_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:00:05, 0:00:10]: And order our lives as we prepare to do the people's business of the city of Stockbridge. [0:00:12, 0:00:14]: And just help us to adopt. [0:00:14, 0:00:16]: A servant attitude. [0:00:17, 0:00:24]: So that whatever we say and whatever we do will be in the best interests of the citizens of the city of Stockbridge. [0:00:24, 0:00:26]: This we pray in Jesus' name. [0:00:26, 0:00:27]: Amen. [0:00:27, 0:00:29]: Amen. [0:00:30, 0:00:31]: Pledge of allegiance. [0:00:37, 0:00:49]: All right, a pledge allegiance to the United States of America, to the Republic, which is fan, one nation, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty with liberties, that's his fault. [0:00:51, 0:00:54]: All right. Linda, would you call a rope? [0:00:54, 0:00:57]: Yes. [0:00:57, 0:00:58]: Present. [0:00:58, 0:00:59]: Maybe we do us. [0:00:59, 0:01:00]: Present [0:01:01, 0:01:02]: Kathleen Nelson? [0:01:02, 0:01:03]: Is it? [0:01:03, 0:01:04]: Jeroughly Wallace. [0:01:05, 0:01:05]: Present. [0:01:06, 0:01:07]: Uh, the buttons. [0:01:08, 0:01:08]: Present. [0:01:09, 0:01:10]: David Planton. [0:01:10, 0:01:11]: Present [0:01:11, 0:01:13]: Mr. Chairman, we have a quorum. [0:01:14, 0:01:15]: Thank you. [0:01:19, 0:01:20]: I have a motion to uh [0:01:22, 0:01:23]: To adopt the agenda. [0:01:25, 0:01:32]: I will motion to adjust adopt the agenda for December the seventeenth, twenty twenty at six thirty. [0:01:33, 0:01:34]: I will second that. [0:01:35, 0:01:38]: All in favor that you know by sign of I [0:01:38, 0:01:41]: Uh those opposed? [0:01:44, 0:01:46]: Hearing non um [0:01:47, 0:01:48]: The motion is carried, uh [0:01:49, 0:01:51]: Sorry, who made a motion and who seconded? [0:01:52, 0:01:53]: Um [0:01:54, 0:01:55]: I'm not sure. [0:01:56, 0:01:56]: Surely. [0:01:57, 0:01:59]: And I think Clinton, you didn't use second? [0:02:00, 0:02:01]: Mr. [0:02:01, 0:02:02]: Yeah. [0:02:02, 0:02:07]: Mr. Planton. Plant has been moved and second. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of I. [0:02:07, 0:02:10]: Aye aye. Those opposed. The ayes have the motion is carried. [0:02:12, 0:02:16]: Uh I'm gonna review the minutes from the November nineteenth uh meeting. [0:02:26, 0:02:29]: Are there any noted changes or amendments? [0:02:31, 0:02:38]: Unless anybody would like to hear the minutes, I would like to make a motion that we accept them as written. [0:02:39, 0:02:41]: I'll second that motion. [0:02:42, 0:02:49]: It's been moved and seconded that the uh minutes be approved from the November nineteenth meeting. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:02:49, 0:02:51]: Uh I propose. [0:02:53, 0:02:54]: It's been moved in second. [0:02:54, 0:02:56]: The motion is carried. [0:02:57, 0:02:58]: Ну бізнес. [0:03:02, 0:03:07]: Number one is recombination case RC twenty twenty oh three. [0:03:08, 0:03:09]: Ms. Logan? [0:03:10, 0:03:14]: Yes, I'll read for the record the uh description of the case. [0:03:14, 0:03:34]: Neil Colbull requests a recombination of five contiguous parcels, as are listed below, into one parcel, creating a new plat. The parcels are located within landlot 29 of District 7 within the city of Stockbridge, within the Stockbridge city limits, along Brandon Road and North Salem Drive. All five parcels. [0:03:34, 0:03:40]: Currently have the same zoning classification, RA, which is residential agricultural. [0:03:40, 0:03:44]: This allows a proposed recombination to be considered. [0:03:44, 0:03:48]: So these are the five parcels. Seven thirty two Brandon Road. [0:03:49, 0:03:53]: Parcel number O eight eight O two O four nine thousand. [0:03:53, 0:03:54]: Um [0:03:55, 0:04:02]: Parcel at six six four Brandon Road, parcel number O eight eight O two O five zero zero zero zero. [0:04:03, 0:04:10]: And six one eight Brandon Road, parcel number zero eight eight zero two zero five one thousand. [0:04:11, 0:04:29]: Then a large parcel on Brandon Road with no address, parcel number 088-0204-9005. And finally a small parcel on North Salem Drive with no address, parcel number zero eight eight zero two zero four five thousand. [0:04:33, 0:04:34]: Okay. [0:04:36, 0:04:45]: Anything else on that did uh what staffing say about this recomment? I have a presentation and I am trying to share my screen. [0:04:45, 0:04:45]: Okay. [0:04:46, 0:04:48]: Click on the screen, uh [0:04:48, 0:04:51]: Share screen button but it says host disabled. [0:04:51, 0:04:53]: Participant screen sharing, Robert. [0:04:54, 0:04:55]: I'm sorry. [0:04:57, 0:04:57]: Can we just [0:05:05, 0:05:07]: Okay, here we go. Let's see. [0:05:11, 0:05:12]: All right. [0:05:13, 0:05:15]: All right, here we go. Can everyone see my screen? [0:05:17, 0:05:19]: Yes. Yeah. Oh I heard. [0:05:19, 0:05:22]: So here is the the the cover page. [0:05:23, 0:05:23]: Um [0:05:24, 0:05:26]: Just describing uh what this case is about. [0:05:29, 0:05:41]: All right, so the next slide, this is a city's zoning map. The purpose of showing you this is just to show the location of the property. Um, it's very tiny, but uh this yellow area here. [0:05:42, 0:05:50]: Is at the very eastern edge of the city and ha has some enlargements, but this just gives you a general orientation of where it is. [0:05:50, 0:05:57]: Okay, my next slide. This is a close up again. It's this yellow parcel here, yellow tracked here. [0:05:59, 0:05:59]: Um [0:06:01, 0:06:02]: Okay. [0:06:02, 0:06:19]: Then we have an aerial photo of the vicinity and you see Brandon Road going here, north to south, North Salem Drive here. And this is one address of 732 Brandon Road. The rest of the property is in this area. It's mostly vacant. [0:06:20, 0:06:22]: Uh there are a few houses there. [0:06:23, 0:06:27]: Uh this is actu that's another enlargement of the track. [0:06:28, 0:06:34]: And then we have um this shows the surrounding neighborhood, another aerial photo. [0:06:36, 0:06:45]: And this shows more where the five parcels are located. You have the largest one in the center. This one here is 732 Brandon Road. [0:06:45, 0:06:46]: And uh [0:06:47, 0:06:50]: Six six four and six one eight. [0:06:50, 0:06:52]: Down here and then up here is a one on [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: North Salem Drive. [0:06:58, 0:06:59]: And yet another [0:06:59, 0:07:05]: Just these are these are aerial photographs from the Henry County Tax Assessor's Office. [0:07:06, 0:07:08]: All right. This is a um [0:07:08, 0:07:11]: The site survey that the applicant provided. [0:07:11, 0:07:15]: shows you a little more clearly the boundaries of the five parcels. [0:07:17, 0:07:35]: All right, project information. So the request is to combine five existing parcels into one parcel to allow for the creation of development site for proposed subdivision. I've listed again here the five parcels that I just ran into the record. Again, the applicant is Neil Coble. [0:07:35, 0:07:40]: Properties on the east side of Brannon Road and south side of North Salem Drive. [0:07:40, 0:07:49]: Existing uses are rural residential, minor minor agriculture uses, a cell tower at 732 Brandon Road, and some vacant land. [0:07:50, 0:07:55]: The current zoning is RA, which is residential agricultural for all five parcels. [0:07:56, 0:08:01]: And the proposed project is development of a subdivision with 147 lots and 147 homes. [0:08:04, 0:08:08]: The applicant has submitted a proposed site plan. [0:08:09, 0:08:23]: I'm not going to go into detail on that right now. Uh when we get to our next case for the actual rezoning, that's when we can discuss that in detail. This this right now is just giving you a general idea of what it's going to look like. We have Brandon Road here on the left. [0:08:23, 0:08:26]: And uh North Salem Drive actually goes [0:08:26, 0:08:27]: Up through here. [0:08:28, 0:08:34]: So the entrance would be here off north off of Brant Brannon Road. It's directly across from um [0:08:35, 0:08:46]: the Clark Meadows subdivision entrance. So this just gives you a general idea. There is a pond down here in this corner corner and some open space floodplain areas in the center. [0:08:48, 0:08:49]: Okay. [0:08:50, 0:09:00]: So we have a few conclusions. The existing five parcels currently all have the same RA zone and classification, thereby allowing the proposed recombination to proceed. [0:09:01, 0:09:04]: Conclusion number two, the property will need to be rezoned. [0:09:04, 0:09:05]: Uh [0:09:06, 0:09:07]: after recombination is approved. [0:09:08, 0:09:15]: Uh conclusion number three, applicant will need to take several steps after proposed recombination is approved as follows. [0:09:15, 0:09:17]: If if he wants to proceed with [0:09:18, 0:09:21]: Is uh pro developing his proposed subdivision. [0:09:21, 0:09:23]: rezone the property from existing RA [0:09:24, 0:09:28]: to R three if the current site plan is to be used. [0:09:28, 0:09:34]: Obtain approval of technical merits of proposed subdivision from city staff. That's number two. [0:09:34, 0:09:37]: Number three, submit a subdivision application. [0:09:37, 0:09:42]: to the planning commission for approval after the property is rezoned. Of course that will come later. [0:09:43, 0:09:43]: Um [0:09:44, 0:09:50]: Officially record number four, the new subdivision plaque with Henry County Superior Court Real Estate Division. [0:09:50, 0:09:57]: And number five, apply for land disturbance permits and building permits with the city. Recommendation is approval. [0:09:58, 0:10:02]: If the applicant wishes this approval this approval can be made contingent. [0:10:02, 0:10:09]: upon the companion rezoning case RZE twenty twenty oh two which is on next on our agenda. [0:10:09, 0:10:12]: being approved by the mayor and city council. [0:10:12, 0:10:14]: That's all I have for this case. [0:10:18, 0:10:19]: Any questions? [0:10:27, 0:10:28]: Any questions on recombination? [0:10:30, 0:10:33]: Is the uh applicant present? [0:10:34, 0:10:35]: I'm here, Mr. Chairman. [0:10:36, 0:10:36]: Yeah. [0:10:37, 0:10:44]: Uh I I've looked at this recombination and uh and while this my question I have may not apply right now. [0:10:45, 0:10:47]: But it most certainly has an impact on this. [0:10:47, 0:10:52]: I'm concerned about the infrastructure, the sewer, the water availability, et cetera. [0:10:52, 0:10:58]: Um that's not uh uh that's not available right now. In fact, it's just that um [0:10:59, 0:11:04]: Uh the current infrastructure system will not support that. How do you plan to address that? [0:11:06, 0:11:16]: I would like to uh ask that Steve Moore, the engineer that I've hired to uh work on these utilities, if you could unmute him, he'd he can address that. [0:11:18, 0:11:20]: Great. [0:11:20, 0:11:21]: Pardon me? [0:11:21, 0:11:23]: Excellent to stop sharing her screen. [0:11:24, 0:11:25]: Linda. [0:11:25, 0:11:28]: Oh yes. Uh made a stop sharing my screen. [0:11:28, 0:11:33]: Yeah. Okay. Let's see. I'm not sure how to do that. [0:11:33, 0:11:35]: Uh two okay. [0:11:36, 0:11:39]: Oh, he did it for me. Yeah, Linda did that. Yeah. [0:11:41, 0:11:46]: Good evening. My name is Steve Moore. I'm with Moor Bass Consulting. We're at thirteen fifty Keys Ferry Court in McDonough, Georgia. [0:11:46, 0:11:49]: Uh we're a civil engineering and surveying company. Um [0:11:50, 0:11:52]: Our role in this project is [0:11:52, 0:11:53]: Uh [0:11:53, 0:11:55]: I guess based on this current agenda item. [0:11:55, 0:11:57]: Is prepare the survey to combine [0:11:58, 0:12:04]: the five parcels into one, which is a prerequisite requirement to the actual zoning application, since they all have to be [0:12:04, 0:12:05]: One parcel. [0:12:06, 0:12:10]: Um and I I know that you have questions about the subsequent item on the agenda. [0:12:10, 0:12:13]: And we do have a presentation we're prepared to uh [0:12:13, 0:12:17]: display that describes uh those items uh [0:12:17, 0:12:19]: As it relates though. [0:12:19, 0:12:20]: Just quickly to water and sewer. [0:12:21, 0:12:24]: Um there is a water or sewer extension. [0:12:24, 0:12:28]: That is uh proposed along with this project that extends. [0:12:29, 0:12:31]: Северо тазен фіт осерфі. [0:12:32, 0:12:33]: uh to the property. [0:12:33, 0:12:36]: That provides uh public sewer. [0:12:36, 0:12:43]: Uh we have uh confirmation from the water authority, the Henry County Water Authority that with that extension there will be adequate uh [0:12:43, 0:12:46]: uh utilities available to the site. [0:12:46, 0:12:47]: Um but again that is [0:12:47, 0:12:48]: really part of the. [0:12:49, 0:12:51]: Next item on the agenda, which is the rezoning request. [0:12:52, 0:12:52]: Um [0:12:53, 0:13:00]: related to this current item, uh again, the purpose is to just to combine these tracks into one track that will be subject to [0:13:00, 0:13:03]: This subsequent rezoning uh item that's on your agenda. [0:13:04, 0:13:04]: Um [0:13:05, 0:13:06]: We've surveyed [0:13:06, 0:13:10]: The entire property uh all of the uh five tracks. [0:13:10, 0:13:14]: And have supplied the city with a a plat that shows. [0:13:14, 0:13:17]: how those tracks would be combined into one. [0:13:17, 0:13:19]: Once uh if you choose to approve it. [0:13:20, 0:13:20]: Uh we will [0:13:21, 0:13:28]: Process that and submit to the Henry County Tax Assessors Office for reassignment of tax parcel ID numbers, which will be then [0:13:29, 0:13:32]: applied to the rezoning as it makes it to the city council. [0:13:32, 0:13:33]: Um but [0:13:33, 0:13:35]: Again, related to this specific [0:13:35, 0:13:37]: uh agenda item that's our proposal. [0:13:38, 0:13:41]: I'm happy to answer any questions you have related to that item. [0:13:41, 0:13:42]: At this time. [0:13:43, 0:13:47]: My my reason for asking that question now is that um [0:13:48, 0:13:49]: Um [0:13:50, 0:13:58]: You're talking about bringing in first of all, the recombination would wouldn't wouldn't work if you didn't have the uh zoning, correct? [0:14:00, 0:14:03]: They wouldn't be required unless we were asking for zoning. [0:14:04, 0:14:06]: Right. Um and so yes, sir. [0:14:06, 0:14:07]: My interest is this. [0:14:07, 0:14:10]: Is that there's an issue with the infrastructure? [0:14:10, 0:14:12]: There's an issue with uh traffic. [0:14:14, 0:14:22]: And uh the density uh that's going to be increasing that area and uh. [0:14:27, 0:14:34]: The fact that you gotta requ you you got to acquire easements to do all this, et cetera. My thing is this. [0:14:34, 0:14:38]: Is that I'm I'm I'm thinking about the adjacent property owners. [0:14:38, 0:14:41]: who um have opposed this [0:14:41, 0:14:46]: You know, I mean they got legitimate concerns with it. Some of'em have been there thirty years plus. [0:14:47, 0:14:48]: Um [0:14:48, 0:14:53]: This is going to increase the traffic. They brought the issue about that uh Hickory Flat school. [0:14:54, 0:14:56]: uh the traffic conditions, et cetera. [0:14:56, 0:15:05]: And I would think that I would want to address all of those issues before I even got to the recombination because that would make the recombination and the rezoning easy. [0:15:08, 0:15:11]: If those are have have have been addressed already. [0:15:11, 0:15:19]: And uh that's my concern for asking it right now. Not I'm positioned one way or the other. I just wanted to get an answer for that now. [0:15:20, 0:15:40]: Yeah, so the answer, sir, is that we have addressed those. Um and I think what we're just following the city's process, which is they uh city has requested us to uh re uh to combine these parcels. Um so if you would like to hear the um [0:15:40, 0:15:47]: I saw Linda made this um subject uh to the possible rezoning case that you're about to hear next. [0:15:47, 0:15:52]: Which is where we've prepared uh with the full diligence. [0:15:52, 0:15:55]: The utilities and traffic and [0:15:55, 0:16:05]: We've had uh community meetings. Um so this uh agenda item that you're hearing now is just part of the city's [0:16:06, 0:16:12]: um the scre d direction. I understand that's the initial step and I and I I'm I'm not opposed to that. [0:16:12, 0:16:17]: I just wanted to get that out of the way before we even got to the zone. That was an interest that I had personally. [0:16:18, 0:16:21]: Not just had anything that I was just interested in some questions that I needed answered. [0:16:22, 0:16:23]: Uh [0:16:25, 0:16:26]: Any other questions? [0:16:27, 0:16:29]: Yes, this is Dave Planchon. [0:16:30, 0:16:35]: I see there are five five parcels in this area that's proposed development. [0:16:36, 0:16:39]: Are they currently owned by five separate property owners? [0:16:41, 0:16:48]: And if so, do we have an agreement that all those property owners are actually a part of this development? [0:16:50, 0:16:59]: It's uh it's one family uh that owns this farm. Uh so it's owned in as a family farm uh investment. [0:16:59, 0:17:01]: So it's all all under one property. [0:17:03, 0:17:05]: Okay, so it's currently really under one ownership. [0:17:06, 0:17:09]: All the properties. Yes, yes. Okay. Thank you. [0:17:13, 0:17:14]: Any other questions? [0:17:15, 0:17:33]: I I do. I I have uh a a concern uh about combining them, uh being that there's been so much interest in this property, especially from Councilman Elton Alexander, um, reaching out to board members on separate occasions in support of this project. Um [0:17:33, 0:17:34]: In um [0:17:35, 0:17:37]: To be fair. [0:17:37, 0:17:38]: You know [0:17:38, 0:17:45]: I feel and other board members feel that it was inappropriate that Elton Alexander has been um [0:17:45, 0:17:46]: Pretty much. [0:17:47, 0:17:50]: presenting himself as though he's working for [0:17:50, 0:17:52]: The applicant and not the city. [0:17:53, 0:17:57]: And that leaves a bad stain for me, especially for me. [0:17:58, 0:18:03]: Um, in conversations that I personally have had with uh Councilman Alexander. [0:18:03, 0:18:04]: So [0:18:04, 0:18:07]: In in saying so, um [0:18:07, 0:18:16]: His his opinions does not weigh in on any opinion that I would give or thought that I would have toward this property. I want I want to make that clear. [0:18:16, 0:18:20]: And that's a matter that has to be taken up in another form, but [0:18:20, 0:18:33]: With these properties, um, have you all even reached out to the community at all to try to gauge the community to see how receptive they would be of having? [0:18:34, 0:18:36]: Such a large um [0:18:36, 0:18:43]: A n a new residential area so close and such a tight space as it is already. [0:18:46, 0:19:06]: My name is Michelle Battle with Battle Law, and I'm the legal counsel for the applicant. Because we were only dealing with the preliminary, well, sorry, with the lot combination, I didn't chime in, but I wanted to make a couple of clarifying statements. Number one, with regards to the plat um lock combination. [0:19:06, 0:19:07]: combo. Um [0:19:09, 0:19:29]: Any property owner certainly that owns multiple parcels that are contiguous to each other have the right to seek a uh combination of those parcels into one tax parcel in order to spare them from having multiple tax bills. Um in this instance, this um particular lot combo. [0:19:28, 0:19:48]: Was being precipitated by the desire to rezone the property. So I think that it is absolutely um appropriate for um whether or not this combo goes through to be uh connected into the proposed rezoning. Um we are more than happy to move into the discussion with regards to. [0:19:48, 0:20:08]: The rezoning. That seems to be the crux of the issue here. And so if you would like for us to do our presentation with regards to that, we can certainly start that now. We don't want to be duplicitous in our presentation, which is why I had not entered into this at this point. [0:20:08, 0:20:28]: Seems like that's really what you guys want to talk about in conjunction with this lot combo. So if you would like, um I'd be happy to move forward with our presentation. But I believe that Ms. Logan has the presentation materials um that she would have to display and go through her presentation so that we can then [0:20:28, 0:20:36]: um follow up with the things that we wanted to point out with regards to the proposed rezoning and the lock combo. [0:20:36, 0:20:56]: No, we're gonna follow the process that we have already in place and we're not gonna jump ahead. The questions are there. We're gonna follow the procedures that this board normally follows, especially in hearing that you know, more than likely there's other questions that this board, but the board members are gonna have. [0:20:56, 0:21:02]: And there's gonna be a lot of concerns here, especially from the board and also from the citizens as well. [0:21:03, 0:21:04]: So um [0:21:04, 0:21:24]: So the lot, the lot, the lot combo itself again is being requested from two perspective perspectives. Number one, there is one property owner that owns all of this land. And as a property owner that owns property that is contiguous to each other, um, they have a right to seek to combine all [0:21:24, 0:21:44]: all of that into one lot. The intent here is simply to create one large lot as opposed to having the five individual lots. With that said, I don't know that there's really too much more for us to contribute other than we have addressed the issue. [0:21:44, 0:22:04]: We will be bringing sewer into this project. And so the sewer utilities will be addressed in a part of the proposed rezoning. And we do have access to the other utilities that we will be providing as well on site. So I know that was one of the questions. [0:22:04, 0:22:13]: questions that had been previously raised. I'm not sure what else we can contribute that doesn't bleed over into the zoning component of this. [0:22:13, 0:22:23]: Well one statement you made is that the right uh the lot only has a right to uh combine these lots that are contagious. To seek to find to seek to combine them. [0:22:23, 0:22:25]: Uh does Mr. Cobel own those lots? [0:22:27, 0:22:37]: Um he is acting on behalf of the owner and the owner gave him the authority to um proceed to seek the combination. So he is in that sense representing the owner. Okay. [0:22:38, 0:22:42]: Mr. Chairman. And and this is Dave again. They could they could have requested [0:22:43, 0:22:48]: the common uh combining these lots even before there were plans to develop it. [0:22:49, 0:22:57]: Correct. I don't think that would have the development part of it wouldn't even enter into this question about combining those lots. They they could have done that years ago. [0:22:58, 0:23:04]: You know, until somebody was ready to develop it and then come to us with the development proposal. So [0:23:04, 0:23:07]: I think we gotta they're probably two separate issues. [0:23:11, 0:23:12]: Mr. Chairman. [0:23:12, 0:23:13]: Все [0:23:13, 0:23:18]: Uh Stan Doom is here and I apologize for my camera not working tonight. [0:23:20, 0:23:40]: But if I may uh suggest that we because what I've heard just heard is correct, the property owner is common to all five parcels and the zoning is common to all five parcels at this point. [0:23:40, 0:23:44]: So I would recommend that we take a vote on the recombination. [0:23:45, 0:23:58]: uh and then move to the next item on the agenda and where we can adjust at that point address the concerns that people may have regarding whatever issues they may have. [0:23:58, 0:24:03]: with respect to developing a subdivision. But as far as combining the parcels, [0:24:03, 0:24:08]: On this particular item, I think we need to vote on it and then move forward. [0:24:08, 0:24:12]: Are you making a motion, Mr. Dumas? I certainly am. I move approval. [0:24:13, 0:24:16]: I will second the approval to combine the parcels. [0:24:16, 0:24:20]: It's been moved and second. All those in favors, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:24:21, 0:24:23]: Aye. Aye. Those opposed? [0:24:24, 0:24:30]: It's been moved and seconded. I asked have the motion carries. The uh recombination uh is approved. [0:24:34, 0:24:34]: Linda? [0:24:35, 0:24:36]: Okay. [0:24:44, 0:24:47]: Okay, so the next next item on the agenda [0:24:48, 0:25:08]: Number two, rezoning case number R Z 2020. This was deferred from the November 19, 2020 meeting. Neil Coble requests the rezoning of certain property from RA Residential Agricultural District to R three single family residential district to allow for the development of a single family residential district. [0:25:07, 0:25:09]: [1509.6, 1524.6]: The property is located in landlot 29 of District 7 within the Stockbridge city limits along the southeast corner of Brandon Road and North Salem Drive. It contains 73.71 total acres within five parcels as follows. [0:25:25, 0:25:30]: Again, seven thirty-two Brandon Road, parcel number O eight, eight, O two, O four, nine thousand. [0:25:31, 0:25:36]: Six six four Brandon Road, parcel number O eight, eight, O two, O five, zero zero zero zero. [0:25:37, 0:25:38]: Six one eight Brandon Road. [0:25:39, 0:25:42]: Parcel number O eight eight O two O five one thousand. [0:25:43, 0:25:55]: A large parcel on Brannon Road, parcel number 088-0204-9005, and a small parcel on North Salem Drive, parcel number 088-0204-5000. [0:25:56, 0:26:04]: So I have a presentation for that as well, this case. And if I could let's see. [0:26:05, 0:26:07]: Share my screen again. [0:26:12, 0:26:13]: Trying to bring it up. [0:26:14, 0:26:16]: Okay, share. [0:26:18, 0:26:19]: That's not the right one. [0:26:23, 0:26:25]: Let's see. [0:26:25, 0:26:29]: Don't see it now. Robert, I need your assistance. [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: Robert, are you there? [0:26:34, 0:26:40]: Yes, ma'am. Do you see the share button at the bottom? Share screen button? I did and I clicked on it, but I don't know what happened. [0:26:41, 0:26:42]: It's not even there anymore. [0:26:43, 0:26:44]: Went away. [0:26:44, 0:26:47]: It says I'm now screen screen sharing. [0:26:47, 0:26:49]: But yeah, your entire screen. [0:26:50, 0:26:52]: But my presentation is not shown. [0:26:54, 0:26:55]: Hit the share screen button at the bottom. [0:26:56, 0:26:57]: Okay, here it here it came back. [0:26:58, 0:26:59]: Got [0:26:59, 0:27:01]: Okay. I'm tired again. [0:27:01, 0:27:03]: I don't see my presentation though. [0:27:07, 0:27:12]: Or just pull it up from the bottom. It's here at the bottom. That's it right there. Can anyone see that? [0:27:13, 0:27:16]: Uh you still have to share it. So click the share screen button again. [0:27:17, 0:27:18]: Okay. [0:27:20, 0:27:22]: I clicked it, but then the presentation went away. [0:27:25, 0:27:28]: Yep, so you're showing your desktop. So when you open share screen. [0:27:29, 0:27:32]: It defaults to your desktop, we need to um change that. [0:27:34, 0:27:40]: But since we see your desktop, do you see that at the bottom, can you just open up the PowerPoint presentation that you wanted to share? [0:27:41, 0:27:42]: It's right here. [0:27:42, 0:27:43]: Okay. [0:27:43, 0:27:46]: You can see that. Is that with the green is that with the green titles? [0:27:46, 0:27:50]: With the green titles, that's correct. Everyone can see that everyone can see that? [0:27:51, 0:27:58]: Yes. Yes. Okay. Very good. So this is the cover page again describing the case. Um [0:27:59, 0:28:05]: I have this the same map. Some of these slides in here are the same as what I had for the recombination case. [0:28:05, 0:28:13]: So I'll just quickly uh click through them. You can see them again. And uh I have a lot more slides though. [0:28:23, 0:28:43]: Okay, the applicant Neil Koble is from Liberty Communities LLC. The agent is Moorbass Consulting. Uh the request is to rezone five parcels of land from RA Residential Agricultural to R3 single family residential after they've been combined via the approval of RC two oh two oh three, which we just did. [0:28:43, 0:28:46]: To allow for the creation of a development site for proposed subdivision. [0:28:46, 0:28:48]: I've listed the parcels again. [0:28:49, 0:29:09]: I have information here about the sign postings, uh uh legal requirement to post signs on the property. We actually have posted signs in in three locations. We have one on uh North Salem Drive, North Salem Drive, and two on Brann Road. They were first posted on October twenty-sixth. [0:29:09, 0:29:10]: That was at a time when [0:29:10, 0:29:12]: We were going to have [0:29:12, 0:29:16]: this case heard at the November nineteenth meeting, then when we change when the [0:29:17, 0:29:18]: case was deferred to tonight. [0:29:19, 0:29:29]: Then we had some overlay strips. We went back out there and um posted the strips. We had to order some more on on those these two dates, November 16 and 23. [0:29:30, 0:29:32]: I'm just providing this information for the record. [0:29:34, 0:29:45]: Okay, properties at the east side of Brandon Road, south side of North Salem Drive, its surrounding land uses include rural residential, minor minor agricultural, several subdivisions, and vacant land. [0:29:45, 0:29:55]: Um two subdivisions are located across from the subject property on the west side of Brandon Road, Clark Meadows Subdivision and Mount Moss Point subdivision. [0:29:56, 0:30:07]: Surrounding zoning, uh, we have Clark Meadows, a zone PD that includes parts of it are R2 and R3. Plan development, that's um previous. [0:30:07, 0:30:11]: zoning classification that was used some years ago. [0:30:11, 0:30:29]: Moss Point Zone R2. Um, I will point out that we looked at the um subdivision plats for both of those subdivisions to actually see what size of lots they had and uh discovered that the lots which have frontage on Brandon Road. [0:30:29, 0:30:33]: were around fif at least fifteen thousand uh square feet. [0:30:34, 0:30:44]: The future land use designation is low density residential. This allows a density of 1.25 to two dwelling units per acre. [0:30:45, 0:30:46]: Soning history. [0:30:46, 0:30:59]: We did not find any previous rezoning cases. Uh the property at 732 Brandon Road was annexed into the city in 2004 and it had existing cell tower. It was there at that time. [0:31:00, 0:31:20]: The R3 district, which is what the applicant proposes, its purpose and requirements, it allows smaller lots as part of a planned development on sewer. Minimum lot requirements must have at least 12,000 square feet and be 75 feet wide. The minimum house size is 1,050. [0:31:20, 0:31:25]: uh square feet. Uh the applicant though plans to build, I believe, a minimum of [0:31:26, 0:31:26]: Houses of [0:31:27, 0:31:28]: Two thousand square feet. [0:31:29, 0:31:32]: The property characteristics, um [0:31:32, 0:31:38]: Again, it has 73.71 tot total acres, features a floodplain area near the center. [0:31:39, 0:31:40]: And a small pond. [0:31:41, 0:31:45]: Adjacent North Sound Drive is very narrow and curvy street. [0:31:46, 0:31:51]: Existing uses are res rural residential, minor agriculture, again the cell tower and a vacant land. [0:31:51, 0:31:57]: The cell tower is built in two thousand by Sprintcom and ATT colac co co locates. [0:31:57, 0:31:59]: It's equipment on the tower. [0:31:59, 0:32:10]: Uh I have some pictures. Here's uh one of the signs that was posted we posted on on North Salem Drive, uh next to the parcel, one of the five parcels. [0:32:11, 0:32:16]: Uh there's a sign that's uh near seven thirty two Brandon Road. [0:32:17, 0:32:22]: Uh, this is just a picture of a side the silo that's there, just to orient everyone. [0:32:23, 0:32:30]: Um, this is our third sign further down, closer to six one eight and near the most point across the street. [0:32:33, 0:32:37]: Here's a table of surrounding land uses. That's information that I already [0:32:37, 0:32:54]: covered. Um some other we do have some other uh since this property is uh it's surrounded on three sides. Uh the the Stockford city limits surrounds the property on three sides. And then of course on outside is um in the county. [0:32:55, 0:32:57]: These are some other surrounding um [0:32:57, 0:32:59]: subdivisions and land uses. [0:33:02, 0:33:12]: Okay, here's an aerial photo. Actually the applicant supplied this aerial photo. Um I was not able to enlarge it, but here's here's the subject property here. [0:33:13, 0:33:30]: And then we have uh Clark Meadow subdivision here, uh Moss Point subdivision, and some others. This one says the summon at Eagles Landing and Highlands at Eagles Landing. And there's some other subdivisions in in these areas that are in the county. [0:33:35, 0:33:37]: Those are the same maps that we've seen before. [0:33:39, 0:33:40]: Okay. [0:33:41, 0:33:45]: All right, so here's some facts about the proposed subdivision. [0:33:46, 0:33:50]: So um the applicant states are due to some to um [0:33:51, 0:33:56]: uh unbuildable areas in the center of the property that only forty seven point four nine acres will be developed. [0:33:57, 0:33:58]: Um [0:33:58, 0:34:01]: And the rest of the acreage is because of the [0:34:01, 0:34:04]: pond, a floodplain, and other open space areas. [0:34:04, 0:34:06]: Um and the cell tower. [0:34:07, 0:34:15]: So the site will be accessed from a boulevard style street off of Brandon Road across from Sperry Spraybray Drive, which serves [0:34:15, 0:34:20]: The Clark Meadows subdivision, there would be no secondary access provided. [0:34:20, 0:34:21]: So and then um [0:34:22, 0:34:28]: Uh the developer would provide an acceleration, deceleration lane and sidewalks at the entrance. [0:34:29, 0:34:36]: So these are some n numbers on the project size. There would be 147 homes, lots, and 147 homes. [0:34:37, 0:34:40]: The overall density one point nine nine dwelling units per acre. [0:34:41, 0:34:49]: Net density that is to account for the uh unbuildable areas, 3.08 acres, units per acre. [0:34:50, 0:34:53]: So the home size is applicant that's proposing to build [0:34:53, 0:35:08]: 2,000 square foot homes, uh, even though the R3 district allow allows homes that are about half of that size, 1,050 square feet. So these homes would be um almost double the size of what is allowed. [0:35:08, 0:35:15]: Uh the lot sizes, average lot size, n fourteen thousand one ninety-five square feet. [0:35:15, 0:35:22]: Some lots would have the minimum requirement of twelve thousand. They those would be in the center and in the back. [0:35:23, 0:35:30]: About half of the lots would have about between fifteen thousand and twenty thousand square feet. I determined this from looking at the [0:35:31, 0:35:33]: uh list actually on the site plan of [0:35:34, 0:35:36]: The size of every every lot. [0:35:37, 0:35:46]: Um eleven lots adjacent to Brandon Road would have at least fifteen thousand square feet, as I mentioned before. This would mirror the lot sizes of the lots within Clark Meadows. [0:35:47, 0:35:49]: subdivision that are adjacent to Brandon Road. [0:35:50, 0:35:53]: All lots would be at least seventy five feet wide. [0:35:53, 0:36:00]: And would have the filing yard set setbacks fifty feet in the front, ten feet at the side, forty feet at the rear. [0:36:01, 0:36:02]: Okay, let's move down. [0:36:04, 0:36:10]: Uh the s site design, subdivision would have a traditional design, cell tower and pond would remain. [0:36:11, 0:36:15]: Large open space area with walking trails would be located near the center. [0:36:16, 0:36:21]: An amenity area would be provided at the southwest corner uh near the pond. [0:36:21, 0:36:30]: And it would include a playground, picnic tables, fire print, fire pit grills, and a mail kiosk. Walking trail will be provided around the pond. [0:36:31, 0:36:37]: A fifty foot wide buffer would surround the property and a fence would be installed at the northern property line. [0:36:37, 0:36:45]: For utilities, Henry County water services available, but the developer will be required to extend a sewer line to serve the site. [0:36:45, 0:36:53]: Uh Mitch might also require easements. Uh applicant provided a letter from water and sewage authority saying that um [0:36:53, 0:36:58]: uh the sewer line needed to be extended, which a developer would have to pay for. [0:36:59, 0:37:04]: Here is the proposed site plan that that you saw before. Uh [0:37:08, 0:37:10]: Okay, let's see if I have uh I have some [0:37:11, 0:37:12]: And then here is [0:37:13, 0:37:15]: The same site plan in color. [0:37:16, 0:37:17]: And just got today actually. [0:37:18, 0:37:38]: Shows where all the lots are. So here we see this is the entrance across the Sprayberry Lane. It's a bullet boulevard divided right here. And then these lot this is lot lot number one here. And then these lots down here, 10 lots. So it's 11 lots here would all have sizes of at least 15,000 square feet fronting on. [0:37:38, 0:37:39]: Brandon wrote. [0:37:39, 0:37:45]: Um here's your pond and amenity area. Amenity areas would be around here. [0:37:45, 0:37:49]: In the center you'd have open space areas with some walking trails. [0:37:50, 0:37:51]: And um [0:37:51, 0:37:53]: And of course, I'm cold to sex. [0:37:54, 0:37:59]: So I made an enlargement of uh on a on the top of the site plan. [0:38:00, 0:38:01]: Uh up here. [0:38:02, 0:38:04]: Let me go to let me go to this other. [0:38:04, 0:38:05]: Up here. [0:38:06, 0:38:10]: See in these areas a but bunch of numbers. So I enlarge I enlarge that. [0:38:10, 0:38:11]: And [0:38:11, 0:38:12]: It's here. [0:38:12, 0:38:19]: So if you want these are some of the numbers that I already mentioned, number of units, lot width. [0:38:20, 0:38:21]: minimum lot area. [0:38:22, 0:38:29]: average lot area here the setbacks and then uh the the dense density and open space areas [0:38:30, 0:38:35]: Um the applicant provided a sample of what a house might look like. [0:38:36, 0:38:44]: Um, I guess this was from an another community that developer has has built. Some other photographs that I received. [0:38:45, 0:38:50]: I d I guess that's a fire pit. I don't have any information about'em, just receive'em. [0:38:50, 0:38:54]: Uh play proposed playground might look like this. [0:38:56, 0:39:01]: I guess this is a wall at the surrounding the property or near the entrance. [0:39:03, 0:39:15]: Staff analysis, so suitability of the proposed subdivision. Um, it's unlikely that the property would develop into additional rural residential agricultural uses due to its location. [0:39:15, 0:39:24]: Subdivision would be a reasonable use of the property due to the proximity of several other subdivisions adjacent to and surrounding the property. [0:39:24, 0:39:29]: The subdivision would meet the density requirements of the property's future land use designation. [0:39:30, 0:39:32]: suitability of the requested R three district. [0:39:33, 0:39:34]: Applicant would be able to develop. [0:39:35, 0:39:40]: Proposed subdivision R three if he extends a sewer line to the property in accordance with [0:39:40, 0:39:43]: Requirements of Henry County Water and Sewer Authority. [0:39:43, 0:39:49]: The R three district would allow proposed subdivision to have lot sizes that are that are um comparable. [0:39:50, 0:39:56]: Two lot sizes in Kark Meadows and Moss Point subdivisions, which ha do have sewer lines. [0:39:57, 0:39:58]: Okay. [0:39:59, 0:40:00]: Um [0:40:00, 0:40:06]: Cont suitability of the pro site plan subdivision would have traditional s design. [0:40:07, 0:40:17]: No secondary access would be provided at North Salem Drive, thereby eliminating possible safety hazards due to the narrow and curvy characteristics of the road. [0:40:18, 0:40:24]: Existing pond would be preserved and would be used as a focal point for several amenities. [0:40:24, 0:40:33]: The applicant is proposing to build many larger, many larger lots and larger homes than are required by the R3 district. [0:40:34, 0:40:50]: About half as I said, about half of the lots would have minimum size of twelve thousand square feet. Eleven lots in the front would have at least fifteen thousand square feet. And all of the all of the homes would have at least two thousand square feet. That's about double of what is required. [0:40:51, 0:40:52]: Uh uh [0:40:52, 0:40:55]: Fence would be installed along the northern side of the property. [0:40:56, 0:40:56]: Uh huh. [0:40:57, 0:41:01]: against the um rural residential and agricultural uses in that area. [0:41:05, 0:41:07]: Impacts on public schools. [0:41:07, 0:41:10]: So applicant submitted a letter from Henry County um [0:41:11, 0:41:19]: Uh, I guess it's Board of Education actually, that projections for additional classroom space would be based on two new students per residence. [0:41:19, 0:41:25]: And with a hundred forty seven homes, there would need twelve new classrooms to to serve. [0:41:25, 0:41:33]: 290 for four new students. However, the cost of new classrooms would likely be offset by the additional school tax. [0:41:33, 0:41:36]: that the subdivision residents would pay. [0:41:37, 0:41:46]: So impacts on adjacent streets. Um, applicant is not submitted to traffic study, thus traffic impacts on the surrounding area are unknown. [0:41:47, 0:41:52]: Uh number two, since one of the entrances will be located directly across from Sprayberry Drive. [0:41:52, 0:41:54]: Serving the Clark Meadows television. [0:41:55, 0:42:02]: it's possible that traffic light might be needed in the future at this intersection and the Henry County DOT would determine that. [0:42:03, 0:42:15]: To facilitate pedestrian movements, sidewalks should be installed on at least one side of the street. The applicant has provo proposed to provide them at at the entrance for sure. [0:42:15, 0:42:20]: To prevent traffic backups on Brandon Road and to facilitate turning movements. [0:42:20, 0:42:25]: An e acceleration and deceleration lane would be provided at the entrance. [0:42:25, 0:42:26]: Um [0:42:27, 0:42:31]: And those are also present at the two subdivisions across the street. [0:42:33, 0:42:48]: Um planning staff recommendations. I have a list of them. We recommend approval subject to the following conditions regarding the site plan. This is a long paragraph, but this identifies this specific site plan that was provided. [0:42:49, 0:42:56]: Uh subdivision sh shall be developed in accordance with site received submitted site plan revised site plan that received. [0:42:56, 0:43:01]: by City of Stockbridge Department of Community Development entitled Conceptual Site Plan. [0:43:01, 0:43:03]: Brandon Road track comprising [0:43:03, 0:43:05]: Sheet number one point one [0:43:06, 0:43:10]: As was prepared by Moorbass Consulting on December fourth, twenty twenty. [0:43:10, 0:43:14]: Said said plan is conceptual only and must meet [0:43:14, 0:43:21]: or exceed the requirements of the zoning resolution and these conditions prior to the approval of a land disturbance permit. [0:43:22, 0:43:27]: In the event that the recommended conditions of zoning cause the approved site plan to be substantially different. [0:43:27, 0:43:31]: The applicant shall be required to complete the concept review procedure. [0:43:32, 0:43:35]: prior to application for a land disturbance permit. [0:43:35, 0:43:37]: Unless otherwise noted herein is [0:43:37, 0:43:43]: Compliance with all conditions shall be in place prior to the issuance of the first certificate of occupancy. [0:43:44, 0:44:03]: So uh regarding subdivision uh design, again, these are this is our list of uh recommended zoning conditions. So A developer shall construct off-site sanitary sewer line extension into the property at developer's expense in cooperation with Henry County Water and Sewage Authority. [0:44:04, 0:44:07]: And this may require the um uh [0:44:08, 0:44:11]: may require the acquisition of any eas any easements. [0:44:11, 0:44:26]: The subdivision entrance off Brandon Road shall be boulevard style with a monument sign located uh uh outside of the public right of way. Such signage shall incorporate a water feature design. That this was the applicant's proposal. [0:44:27, 0:44:32]: The developers shall construct acceleration deceleration lanes at the entrance. [0:44:32, 0:44:35]: uh in compliance with Henry County DOT. [0:44:35, 0:44:40]: And the developer shall comply with the requirements of the city's subdivision ordinance. [0:44:42, 0:44:55]: Continuation, uh minimum of fourteen hundred forty seven lots and hundred and forty seven single family detached homes shall be constructed on the property. All lots that are adjacent to Brandon Road shall have at least fifteen thousand square feet. [0:44:56, 0:44:59]: A homeowners association shall be established. [0:44:59, 0:45:03]: Or a property management company shall be as secured [0:45:03, 0:45:06]: for the purpose of maintaining all common areas of the site. [0:45:07, 0:45:15]: Uh number three, regarding landscape design. A fence wooden or vinyl coated chain link, this was the applicant's proposal. [0:45:16, 0:45:19]: shall be constructed along the northern boundary of the property. [0:45:20, 0:45:34]: A minimum of 20% of the site shall be preserved as open space. Existing floodplain area, pond, and other open space areas shall be preserved and they shall include walking paths that are constructed of pervious materials. [0:45:34, 0:45:45]: Uh see the open space area near the existing pond shall include a minimum of the following amenities. And again, these is this is what the applicant proposed, a children's playground. [0:45:45, 0:45:51]: Central mail kiosk with a vehicle pull off area, two grills, or one fire pit and two picnic tables. [0:45:53, 0:45:53]: And the [0:45:54, 0:45:57]: The proposed amenities shall be constall installed [0:45:57, 0:46:01]: or constructed after fifty percent of the dwelling units have been constructed. [0:46:01, 0:46:06]: and before any land disturbance permits are issued for the development of additional lots. [0:46:09, 0:46:27]: Developers shall provide a minimum fifty-foot-wide buffer around the perimeter of the property with the exception of areas that are required for access or utility connections. F. Developers shall provide a landscaping plan which shall comply with the requirements of the city's landscaping buffers and tree protection ordinance. [0:46:27, 0:46:34]: G, sidewalks that are at least four feet wide shall be installed along at least one side of each internal subdivision street. [0:46:35, 0:46:40]: Now regarding architectural design, all homes shall have a two car garage at a minimum. [0:46:41, 0:46:46]: All homes shall have a minimum two thousand square feet of heated space, which the applicant proposes. [0:46:47, 0:47:05]: All homes shall have have exteriors which comply with the architectural standards of city ordinance number OR18452. This is an ordinance that has a lot that we've used for other subdivisions in the city and it lists types of approved construction materials. [0:47:06, 0:47:08]: And the percentage that needs to be used. [0:47:08, 0:47:09]: On the homes. [0:47:11, 0:47:29]: If possible is desi now these uh if possible, it's desirable for each side of every street within the subdivision to utilize two or more types of materials and two or more colors on the facades of the homes. This is this is to uh you know, to create some variety in a vi visual interest along the street. [0:47:29, 0:47:42]: And again, if possible, is desirable for each side of every street within the celldivision to portray a noticeable difference in materials and the colors of adjacent homes as well as architectural styles. [0:47:42, 0:47:47]: So th those last two are not mandatory. We're just saying those are those are desirable. [0:47:48, 0:47:59]: An official subdivision plat shall be approved by the city and recorded with Henry County Superior Court before any land disturbance or billing permits may be issued by the city to develop the subdivision. [0:48:00, 0:48:01]: And um [0:48:01, 0:48:10]: In compliance with section 12.12.003A of the city's zoning code, which is entitled Expiration of Approvals. [0:48:10, 0:48:30]: The zoning classification of the property may revert back to RA or to some other zoning classification after a period of 18 months if the mayor and city council chooses, and that is if substantial progress has not been achieved in the construction of the subdivision. [0:48:30, 0:48:35]: Uh substantial means progress means when the first inspection is carried out. [0:48:36, 0:48:39]: So those are the staff recommendations. [0:48:39, 0:48:40]: That that's all. [0:48:45, 0:48:48]: Uh Linda, you you mentioned the uh [0:48:49, 0:48:51]: Uh, what is it do? [0:48:51, 0:48:52]: The metals [0:48:52, 0:48:54]: Flock metals development. [0:48:54, 0:48:55]: Yes. [0:48:55, 0:48:58]: And uh the most point development. [0:48:59, 0:49:05]: Uh how many units are on those on that uh within that particular those particular subdivisions? [0:49:05, 0:49:06]: You know? [0:49:07, 0:49:08]: I I do not know. [0:49:10, 0:49:11]: Yeah. [0:49:11, 0:49:12]: Considerable size. [0:49:13, 0:49:14]: Yeah. [0:49:14, 0:49:17]: And they um the the plats show that they they have [0:49:18, 0:49:25]: um larger size locks in the front and smaller in the back. And in fact, so the locks in the back um [0:49:25, 0:49:35]: Actually the plates show that they have only only sixty five hundred uh sixty five hundred and seventy five hundred square feet at the at the rear. [0:49:35, 0:49:43]: Um that's what the plats show. We drove through there and and we didn't notice any difference uh just visually looking at the houses, but [0:49:43, 0:49:53]: But um those those lots in the rear are are mu much smaller than the ones in the front. This proposed um subdivision would would not have [0:49:54, 0:50:01]: such small lots. As I said, they must must have at least twelve thousand and and in fact at least half of them are going to have fifteen thousand. [0:50:02, 0:50:02]: Square feet. [0:50:03, 0:50:06]: Then can you go back to the um [0:50:06, 0:50:11]: the map where you the proposal the the land where it showed um [0:50:12, 0:50:13]: All the plats. [0:50:14, 0:50:16]: I think it's about twenty parcels. [0:50:17, 0:50:21]: Yeah, not not that one. Come down. Okay. Come down. [0:50:21, 0:50:24]: You move in too fast for me. Yeah. [0:50:24, 0:50:25]: This one. [0:50:26, 0:50:31]: Uh no, that was one that you had that actually outlined each lot. [0:50:31, 0:50:35]: It had the lots already uh mapped out. [0:50:38, 0:50:39]: That was the um [0:50:39, 0:50:40]: I have this one. [0:50:41, 0:50:47]: No, that was the proposed one where you had all of the lots laid out how the the the uh conceptual design of the subdivision. [0:50:48, 0:50:51]: With the various plus. Oh, the s the site plan. [0:50:51, 0:50:53]: Right. Yeah. Oh, the site plan. Okay. [0:50:55, 0:50:56]: Here we are. [0:50:59, 0:51:03]: That's the one I was talking about. Yeah, there you go. [0:51:06, 0:51:12]: So you're you're pretty much saying the lots in the I'm looking at the lots on the very the very last row. [0:51:13, 0:51:14]: in in in in this property. [0:51:15, 0:51:22]: You're saying that those lots are pretty much the same size as the one over in the meadows um subdivision? [0:51:24, 0:51:29]: I'm saying the lot lot these eleven lots here at the front on Brandon Road all have it. [0:51:30, 0:51:34]: Fifteen thousand, those are the s just like Clark Meadows across the street. [0:51:34, 0:51:48]: I was like, there is a list here which I I cannot I cannot enlarge, but I studied this. This this here on the right is actually a list of every lot and how and what its size would be. [0:51:49, 0:51:55]: And I from looking at that list, I saw that yes, there are some lots that have [0:51:55, 0:51:59]: Just a minimum twelve thousand square feet. I think there are some of these in here. [0:52:00, 0:52:07]: But at least half of them, I looked at Dola numbers, at least half of them had fifteen thousand or more square feet. [0:52:08, 0:52:11]: And there were some bigger ones like here on in the corners that had maybe [0:52:12, 0:52:17]: maybe twenty thousand at on the corner of a cul-de-sac. This I think this is the biggest slot here. [0:52:17, 0:52:20]: some bigger ones at the end of the cul-de-sac. [0:52:22, 0:52:27]: Okay, so Clark Meadows is a much smaller community than this one in particular. [0:52:28, 0:52:30]: The one this the one that that is being proposed. [0:52:31, 0:52:33]: Would more than double the size. [0:52:33, 0:52:36]: Uh I I'm not [0:52:36, 0:52:38]: I'm not sure. It was it was a [0:52:39, 0:52:42]: A good size, that one and and most point. [0:52:43, 0:52:45]: had several streets through there that we drove through. [0:52:47, 0:52:58]: What I'm looking at is the possibility of the size of Clark Meadows with the traffic that's gonna be coming pr that's gonna yield from this community being twice the size of [0:52:59, 0:53:00]: Of uh Clark Meadows. [0:53:01, 0:53:03]: Then that's gonna be a um [0:53:04, 0:53:09]: Th that's gonna be a situation that's really gonna have to be dealt with swiftly. [0:53:10, 0:53:15]: Right. I did mention that there might be a possibility of a need for a a traffic light. [0:53:16, 0:53:32]: in the future because we're gonna have the two streets um coming together, uh this boulevard of the subdivision and then Sprayberry Drive across the street. So they would line up exactly. And so I mean that was something that the Henry County DOT would have to determine. [0:53:33, 0:53:38]: Okay, so d the DOT could not determine that prior to uh [0:53:38, 0:53:58]: Could they couldn't determine this as a part of this plan because that street, I've actually driven that street, I've gone into those neighborhoods, I wanted to go to visually see what I was looking at, and that street does not have enough space to accommodate the additional traffic. [0:53:58, 0:54:00]: that you're proposing on putting into this area. [0:54:03, 0:54:07]: Right. So we do not have a traffic impact study from the applicant. [0:54:07, 0:54:09]: Uh nor do we have [0:54:09, 0:54:11]: comments from other agencies. [0:54:12, 0:54:13]: I would like to see one. [0:54:16, 0:54:27]: Mr. Chairman, um see what go ahead, Mr. Dumas. Uh yes. Uh and again I apologize for my camera. I have a question for staff. Um [0:54:28, 0:54:30]: Given the [0:54:31, 0:54:33]: Parcel in question is [0:54:34, 0:54:36]: Almost surrounded by [0:54:37, 0:54:41]: Unincorporated Henry County. It's a peninsula, if you will. [0:54:42, 0:54:44]: Oh I I wonder [0:54:45, 0:54:48]: If you all deemed it appropriate or did you [0:54:49, 0:54:52]: Reach out to the planning commission for Henry County. [0:54:53, 0:54:59]: in dialogue with regards to what what's being anticipated putting in in this track. [0:55:03, 0:55:05]: Um, only insofar as [0:55:05, 0:55:09]: inquiring about other surrounding subdivisions, but as far as [0:55:10, 0:55:10]: They're [0:55:11, 0:55:12]: Future plans, no. [0:55:12, 0:55:14]: That did not occur. [0:55:14, 0:55:15]: Okay. [0:55:15, 0:55:20]: You know, this the the thing about this project, this project is more than double the size of uh [0:55:21, 0:55:22]: metals and uh [0:55:22, 0:55:23]: Well it's most important. [0:55:26, 0:55:29]: Yes. Well fun, I'm saying they have sixty seven homes there. [0:55:30, 0:55:32]: And we talk about a hundred and forty seven here. [0:55:33, 0:55:34]: Um [0:55:34, 0:55:37]: That's that's that's uh that that's uh [0:55:37, 0:55:41]: that density is is going to be traumatic. [0:55:42, 0:55:45]: I agree. You know, I mean it it's it's it's um [0:55:47, 0:55:47]: You know. [0:55:48, 0:55:53]: I mean to double a density like that in the area and you already have traffic problems there now [0:55:54, 0:55:55]: Um [0:55:57, 0:56:00]: Uh I I don't I I don't see it, you know. [0:56:00, 0:56:09]: Uh, one of the things I think that we need to do with situations like this is that we really need to go out and have a community, meeting in the community and have those who live there. [0:56:10, 0:56:14]: provide their input, you know, and I know we can't do it now because of COVID. [0:56:15, 0:56:15]: But [0:56:16, 0:56:21]: most certainly this is gonna have a tremendous impact on those adjoining community subdivision. [0:56:21, 0:56:25]: If if if if if Meadows only has sixty seven homes, we bring in a hundred and [0:56:25, 0:56:26]: Forty seven. [0:56:27, 0:56:31]: Uh Maw's point, I don't know how many here, but it it's again it's another small subdivision. [0:56:32, 0:56:33]: Um [0:56:34, 0:56:37]: You know, how how how how you gonna accommodate the the traffic? [0:56:38, 0:56:40]: How you accommodate the um [0:56:40, 0:56:41]: The infrastructure? [0:56:43, 0:56:46]: uh, et cetera. You know, I mean this is is i i [0:56:47, 0:56:52]: And not to mention a storm, uh there I haven't seen a storm drape. Yeah. [0:57:01, 0:57:01]: Okay. [0:57:06, 0:57:14]: And it's gonna be a great impact with the school being right there. And that's pretty much gonna be the main exit. [0:57:14, 0:57:18]: for people going to work, people trying to get to school. [0:57:19, 0:57:22]: early in the morning you have school buses, you have uh [0:57:23, 0:57:43]: just regular traffic coming through daily, it's going to be a mess. It's yes, to put it n that's the best that you really can put it. Uh the quality of education for the children, it has to it has to be considered because with um what you're bringing in that many homes, you know, yeah you may see [0:57:43, 0:57:48]: say some households, the average household has two children, but that's not always the case. [0:57:49, 0:57:54]: And then you have to worry about the impact that's gonna have on classroom sizes as well. [0:57:54, 0:57:57]: So these things to me are very important. [0:57:58, 0:58:18]: Go ahead. No, I'm sorry. These things to me are very important because when you have an a community that has established itself and they're already strained and dealing with the current situation, and then you compile additional items on top and bring it in another subdivision. [0:58:17, 0:58:22]: which is gonna create more um a bigger issue than what they have now. [0:58:22, 0:58:42]: We really need to we really need to consider the the values of of the homes in that area. How are these homes going to impact the values of the homes that are over there? And I haven't heard anyone mention that whatsoever, but all of these things need to be considered. Um and I'm wanna yield to the rest of the board to [0:58:42, 0:58:46]: uh to um voice what opinions you may have on this. [0:58:48, 0:58:50]: on this pro proposed project. [0:58:50, 0:58:57]: You know, the traffic, you know, uh the assumption is that you got two cars to a household you're saying you got two car garages. [0:58:57, 0:58:59]: That's not necessarily true. [0:58:59, 0:59:01]: You may have four cars then. [0:59:01, 0:59:03]: And just uh imagine the model of that traffic. [0:59:04, 0:59:10]: Say for instance, you got a mother and father in the house, they each have a car. Maybe you got a couple of kids, they each got a car. There's four cars. [0:59:12, 0:59:14]: And uh that's gonna have a tremendous impact. [0:59:15, 0:59:16]: On traffic. [0:59:16, 0:59:18]: uh ingress and egress. [0:59:18, 0:59:22]: And my other concern is that there's only one exit out of this place. [0:59:23, 0:59:25]: Only one X. What if there's an emergency? [0:59:26, 0:59:27]: How do you get through? [0:59:27, 0:59:28]: How do you exit? [0:59:29, 0:59:34]: So originally the applicant had proposed the secondary access on North Salem Drive, but then [0:59:35, 0:59:40]: remove that due to concerns about the the road itself being very narrow, being very [0:59:40, 0:59:43]: very curvy and uh and and unsafe. [0:59:43, 0:59:46]: To accommodate the additional traffic. [0:59:47, 0:59:53]: Uh Mr. President. What if you have an emergency and you got five vehicles coming in, you only have one ingress? [0:59:54, 0:59:58]: We had our fire marshal look at this and he uh was okay with it. [1:00:00, 1:00:01]: Mr. Chairman. [1:00:02, 1:00:05]: Sure. Go ahead, Mr. [1:00:05, 1:00:07]: The attorney for the applicant. [1:00:08, 1:00:11]: mentioned in her earlier statement that she [1:00:12, 1:00:15]: was prepared to make a presentation to the board. [1:00:16, 1:00:16]: Yeah. [1:00:17, 1:00:17]: And [1:00:18, 1:00:20]: I think it would be appropriate. [1:00:21, 1:00:22]: For us too. [1:00:22, 1:00:23]: Here [1:00:24, 1:00:25]: What she has to present. [1:00:28, 1:00:29]: I think that was Miss Battle. [1:00:30, 1:00:31]: Yes. [1:00:32, 1:00:33]: Miss Bell, are you there? [1:00:34, 1:00:34]: I am. [1:00:35, 1:00:55]: You wanna do your presentation? I mean, I'm sure you heard all the questions and interesting that we have. And I'm sure you're prepared to address them. So absolutely. Um I um Michelle Battle with Battle Law, one West Court Square, Decatur, Georgia, 30030. [1:00:55, 1:01:15]: The things that Linda went over. I think that she did a very thorough job on what the project is. Um, but I would like to address uh many of the issues that you all have raised. First and foremost, we actually had a community meeting that was very well attended. We had over 35 people, I believe, at that meeting uh last Thursday. Um, we held that meeting in [1:01:15, 1:01:35]: order to give the community an opportunity to speak out with regards to the questions and concerns that they had raised regarding the project. We did hear a number of comments, many of which surrounded uh traffic related issues. There certainly are issues um with um uh North Salem Road. [1:01:35, 1:01:55]: That was one of the main uh concerns that they had. Um, they seemed appreciative of the fact that at least we cut off that entrance, but that did not resolve the safety and other concerns that they had that traffic would come off of Brandon Road and eventually make its way onto North Salem Road. Um we cannot resolve the issues of North Salem Road. [1:01:55, 1:02:15]: We certainly have no issue with trying to contribute towards resolutions of issues with regards to North Salem Road. I don't know if the city had ever even considered just cutting that street off from access from Brandon Road in order to eliminate cut-through traffic. And with it being such a narrow. [1:02:15, 1:02:35]: Windy Road, but we are not contributing direct access onto North Salem Road. With regards to Brandon Road, we have amended our site plan to show the XL D cell lane in the front that mirrors what is across the street in Clark Meadows so that we have the XL. [1:02:35, 1:02:55]: Cell, D cell, and the sidewalk in front. Um, there's been much talk about um what is the size of Clark Meadow. Um I actually just sent over to um Linda a copy of the cover page from uh the recorded plat for Clark Meadows. Clark Meadows has 142 lots. [1:02:55, 1:03:15]: That were platted for that community, 142 lots that were platted. And I've sent her the cover sheet to that and would be happy to as well. I can either share my screen to show the layout matches exactly what you will see on the ground and in the overhead pictures. [1:03:14, 1:03:34]: That we have provided to you all. With regards to the density, therefore, we are very consistent. In fact, we have over 73 acres on our project. Clark Meadows only has, I believe, 56 acres. And so [1:03:34, 1:03:54]: Um with 147 lots, we are certainly consistent with what else is already in the area. When you also look at our lot sizes, our lot sizes are very consistent. Um, in fact, larger um than some of the lots within uh Clark Meadows. Our average lot size is over 14,000 square feet. We've got 15. [1:03:54, 1:04:14]: 15,000 square feet lots lining um Brandon Road. Um, and our minimum lot size is 12,000 square feet. In terms of our responsiveness to some of the issues raised by the community, um, there were a number of individuals because originally we had a 30-foot buffer around the perimeter. [1:04:14, 1:04:34]: Of the project. As a result of comments and concerns raised by those abutting property owners, we actually increased the buffer to 50 feet as opposed to 30 feet, and we applied that even in areas where we were not requested. So that buffer now is around the entire perimeter at 50. [1:04:34, 1:04:54]: feet. With regards to the interior layout and the access points, again, we closed off that access point at the request of the community with regards to not having access onto North Salem Road, even though we have frontage on North Salem Road. [1:04:54, 1:05:14]: The one access point that we have, however, is consistent with the one access point that is at Clark Meadows. They only have one access point as well. On our site, we will be providing for extensive amenity areas. We've got the interior. [1:05:14, 1:05:34]: with the lake um and the dock and the um uh amenities around the the totlot and the other amenities around uh the lake as well as um a walking trail area um for exercise for those that live within the community um we have sidewalks on one side of the street as um is required [1:05:34, 1:05:54]: um by the uh by the city. Um and in terms of price points with these lots, um we will be in the high uh 200s um to low threes by the time um this project gets built out. Um we certainly understand uh the concern about traffic and safety uh in this area. [1:05:54, 1:06:14]: We're concerned about traffic and safety in this area as well and want to do our fair share to make sure that um the residents that live in this community as well as in the surrounding area are not overly burdened by this project. But at the same time, um there's a lot of land in this area. Um we are bringing [1:06:14, 1:06:34]: Sewer down into this area, which may benefit others that have existing homes in the area or those who may choose to build as well here in the future. That we now are bringing that sewer, which is extremely expensive, but we are doing in order to facilitate the development of this project. [1:06:34, 1:06:54]: So we would be happy we've got our engineer here, Steve Moore, and Alex McCart to answer any other questions that you all may have. We recognize and have no problem going back and having a follow-up meeting with the community between now and the city council meeting if there's a final uh decision by this. [1:06:54, 1:07:14]: Board. If not, we certainly again are prepared to continue those conversations. We had not had a chance to go back to them with the modifications that we have made since our last call, a Zoom call that we had on last Thursday. But again, we are prepared to continue that dialogue with [1:07:14, 1:07:34]: them and to try and continue to address the issues. But we we unfortunately cannot fix all of the traffic issues around in that area. But again, our project is certainly consistent with other projects that have been approved in the area, including again Clark Meadows. So we will respectfully request a recommendation [1:07:34, 1:07:42]: Recommendation of approval based on the conditions provided by staff. And we are here to continue to answer questions that you may have. [1:07:42, 1:08:02]: Ms. Ballard, you said you had a community meeting out there, correct? Yes, sir. We did. And where did you locate that meeting yet? This is you know, we got COVID out here now. Um we had we had our meeting virtually. Um as a zoning attorney, I have those all the time now and um we are pretty efficient at doing them. Um and that's pretty much what I'm gonna stay with actually because they've been [1:08:02, 1:08:09]: better attended by those meetings than actually having physical meetings. Approximately how many people did you have at that meeting? [1:08:09, 1:08:24]: I believe we had roughly thirty five. I have to check the list, but I believe it was a little over thirty five people that attended that meeting. You know, my concern is that we posted notices um in the entrances to the subdivisions. My concern is that that's uh [1:08:24, 1:08:31]: That's a low number. That that's you know, that that's a low number. I'm saying I'm thinking about the density, the the increased density in the area. [1:08:31, 1:08:40]: If there was some way that we could cause, you know, you know what I consider when when I when I look at something like this, would I want that next to me? Would I want that to come in on me? [1:08:41, 1:08:47]: Uh and so I have to look at it from that perspective, trying to be objective. I had would I want something like that next to me? [1:08:47, 1:08:54]: And so what if we could, if we could have another Zoom meeting with the community to get their direct input. [1:08:55, 1:08:57]: I think that would be better. I I mean my [1:08:58, 1:09:02]: My conscience would be clear if they participate and I could hear their exact concerns. [1:09:03, 1:09:09]: I can hear their concerns. Absolutely. I I have no problem with that. You know, and we could all join in. [1:09:10, 1:09:13]: And we can make an informed decision based on that. [1:09:13, 1:09:16]: I would not want to just dump this on anyone. [1:09:16, 1:09:17]: Or any community. [1:09:18, 1:09:18]: Okay. [1:09:19, 1:09:39]: Well, again, we attempted to um have a meeting. Um, quite honestly, in in my um uh practice, uh I can tell you that um it normally if we had a face-to-face meeting, 35 would have been a great number uh to have at a meeting. Um, but uh I understand that there are a lot of people that are concerned about the project. [1:09:39, 1:09:59]: that are directly impacted by it. We have no problem continuing that dialogue and you know hosting another meeting. We are around uh the holiday time, so we'll have to figure out a date and time that makes sense. But um we certainly have no problem with um continuing and making sure that people are well informed. [1:09:59, 1:10:01]: informed about what we are proposing. [1:10:01, 1:10:07]: What I would like to see, Ms. Battle, is is to send out notices to the residents, particularly those in uh [1:10:07, 1:10:10]: uh moss porn and and clock metals. [1:10:11, 1:10:14]: 'Cause they're going to be direct they're going to be directly impacted by this. [1:10:15, 1:10:16]: Uh [1:10:16, 1:10:19]: I'd say it's somewhere. Sixty seven home we could get. [1:10:21, 1:10:27]: half of each one of those communities to participate, at least have some input from the community, how this is going to impact them. [1:10:28, 1:10:29]: We can make an informed decision. [1:10:30, 1:10:31]: You know, um [1:10:33, 1:10:37]: Uh but the dump community next to them that's twice their size. [1:10:39, 1:10:43]: I wouldn't want that dumped on me. And I can imagine the traffic hazard that they're talking about. [1:10:44, 1:10:52]: Uh I think one I read something where there's a curve of mailbox where people speed down there, knocking the mail down mailbox down. [1:10:52, 1:10:55]: four or five times a year accidents and whatnot. [1:10:56, 1:11:01]: then there's impact on the school. But I just think uh so some some community input on this. [1:11:01, 1:11:07]: before we make a decision would be in all of our best interests, both for the city as well as the community. [1:11:08, 1:11:28]: Uh and and can I say one thing with regards to the traffic? Um there's no question that the city of Stockbridge, as well as many communities around here, are growing. And there has to be a cooperative effort amongst all to address um traffic. Traffic is an issue in every last single community um that I do in. [1:11:27, 1:11:47]: Practicing. Everyone has exactly the same issue. And it's understandable because the Metropolitan Atlanta traffic is horrible. And I can't say that I don't want to blame anything on any particular like GDOT or something like that, but clearly there was not enough preparation. [1:11:47, 1:12:07]: For um the boom in population that we have had. And so with that, um, I say again, we can't fix all the issues, but what is clear is that there is a lot of vacant land in this area. And um, as individuals decide that they want to move on or um they [1:12:07, 1:12:27]: have um relatives who are of advanced years and now they're willing to sell property. Um you're gonna have more and more folks coming through, whether it's at the density we're proposing or even slightly less, it's still the same issue, which is more people coming into the area. And so I'm not sure whether or not the cities um got any type of transportation plan. [1:12:27, 1:12:47]: With regards to improving traffic conditions and addressing those types of issues. But we certainly want to work cooperatively with the city and to the extent the county to address whatever issue we can with regards to our project. But we believe that we've done what we have been asked of up to this point. [1:12:47, 1:13:07]: And I think we were going to try and get some uh traffic count uh numbers for you all. Um but we will certainly talk with the staff, with um Linda and um uh Mr. Knighton to find out what else um might be asked of us to do. I'm looking at the third paragraph on it states that that that no traffic impact study was submitted. [1:13:07, 1:13:12]: I'm not concerned about that. And I realize that we I realize that we're going to grow. [1:13:13, 1:13:15]: The populations are shifting, et cetera. [1:13:15, 1:13:28]: But I think that we should address the growth and the shifting consciously to take everything. Many we're not gonna be able to cure all ills. We're not gonna be able to address every concern, but I think we can reach a happy medium. [1:13:28, 1:13:48]: Uh by taking some additional steps here and there. And that's the only thing I'm suggesting. I'm suggesting that we, if we can have another Zoom meeting with the community so we can find out exactly what they're interested and concerned are. Not that we're going to stop growing because you got you don't want this or you don't want that, but at least have some community input so that we as a board act normally [1:13:48, 1:13:53]: on behalf of the city of Startbridge and the community can make an informed decision in this regard. [1:13:53, 1:13:54]: Yes, sir. [1:13:54, 1:14:02]: And I would actually like to know what steps are being um taken. How is this gonna impact that area floods? [1:14:02, 1:14:03]: Um quite a bit. [1:14:04, 1:14:07]: when it rains, how what type of impact? [1:14:07, 1:14:11]: is your project gonna have on the current flooding situation? [1:14:12, 1:14:26]: You said you had your engineers online on board already. So if they could please just address that for me and and give me a just briefly tell me how how is this flooding that's currently occurring in that area? How how [1:14:26, 1:14:28]: How is it gonna be impacted? [1:14:31, 1:14:34]: Yes, ma'am. Uh this is Steve Morgan. Um [1:14:34, 1:14:40]: We have an obligation as engineers to uh protect the health, safety and welfare [1:14:40, 1:14:41]: of the general public. [1:14:41, 1:14:42]: And [1:14:43, 1:14:49]: the state and the county and the city has stormwater ordinances that ensure that we do that. Um so [1:14:50, 1:14:52]: Uh we will construct uh [1:14:52, 1:14:55]: Detention facilities on the property. [1:14:55, 1:14:58]: uh that will not only slow the stormwater down [1:14:59, 1:15:02]: But also clean that storm water. [1:15:02, 1:15:05]: before it's released into the existing [1:15:05, 1:15:08]: uh conveyance system which is the creek and the floodplain to the [1:15:09, 1:15:09]: Uh on the [1:15:10, 1:15:11]: I guess it's the [1:15:11, 1:15:13]: Eastern edge of the property. [1:15:13, 1:15:14]: Um [1:15:14, 1:15:18]: But there is in during the community meeting we had uh one [1:15:18, 1:15:20]: resident who did have some [1:15:20, 1:15:22]: Some drainage issues from [1:15:22, 1:15:24]: uh runoff coming from this property. [1:15:24, 1:15:25]: We insured her. [1:15:26, 1:15:27]: as well that we would [1:15:28, 1:15:39]: uh that her condition will be better after the subdivision is developed than it is today because we will capture those stormwaters in those areas where the flow is concentrated and capture it in a pond, slow it down, treat it. [1:15:39, 1:15:41]: And it will be released at a rate [1:15:42, 1:15:42]: It is [1:15:42, 1:15:45]: Likely slower than it's coming to her now. [1:15:45, 1:15:50]: Uh but uh yes, all those issues will be resolved. We won't be allowed [1:15:50, 1:15:51]: To construct [1:15:51, 1:15:53]: A a subdivision that [1:15:53, 1:15:55]: Worsens a drainage condition. They're [1:15:55, 1:15:58]: Have been rules put in place for many years that ensures [1:15:59, 1:16:00]: that that that that can't happen. [1:16:03, 1:16:04]: Mr. Chairman. [1:16:04, 1:16:05]: Yes. [1:16:05, 1:16:06]: I have. [1:16:06, 1:16:08]: uh questions for [1:16:09, 1:16:11]: Miss Battle, please. Uh [1:16:11, 1:16:13]: Actually, I have four questions. [1:16:13, 1:16:18]: And I can ask'em all at once or I can take'em one at a time. How how would you prefer? [1:16:19, 1:16:28]: Um if you could do one at a time so that way I can remember whether Okay, that's fair or not. But you asked that's fine. And I'll try to be brief in my response. [1:16:29, 1:16:33]: Y you probably already answered one of'em already, but [1:16:33, 1:16:35]: I'm gonna ask it again anyway, but [1:16:35, 1:16:39]: My first question would it be a fair assessment to [1:16:39, 1:16:41]: refer to [1:16:41, 1:16:43]: Your proposed development as [1:16:43, 1:16:44]: Starter homes. [1:16:46, 1:16:48]: No, I would not say that that is a fair assessment. No. [1:16:51, 1:17:11]: Um the these homes will be at uh price points in the high uh two hundreds and uh to the low three hundreds. Um I don't consider that to be a starter home. Uh I know when I got my home, it was like a hundred thousand dollars. I was a starter home. I think starter homes these days are um around maybe a hundred and fifty to two [1:17:11, 1:17:16]: two hundred thousand, but I wouldn't consider a two hundred seventy five to three hundred [1:17:16, 1:17:17]: Yeah. [1:17:17, 1:17:19]: Yeah, I got that. [1:17:20, 1:17:27]: Um the my next question. You gotta have a lot of money to have a$300,000 home. Uh that in my opinion. You gotta make a decent fame. [1:17:27, 1:17:36]: I understand. The uh increase the buffer from thirty feet to fifty feet. Uh isn't that gonna reduce the lot sizes? [1:17:36, 1:17:56]: Um no, actually our s um lots around the perimeter were actually fairly deep. We already had a 30 foot um buffer along the um rear of the site. Um I don't know if we can put back up the site plan, but the the next twenty feet of that um will be in the rear yard of those homeowners. Um we did discuss [1:17:56, 1:18:16]: whether or not um well what we would do on the on the plat and this is done in in other communities where um the rear will be undeveloped um and so that will be an undisturbed i believe an undisturbed buffer so there will be full tree coverage whatever coverage is there along that perimeter um and that will be on [1:18:16, 1:18:36]: on the plat. And if any neighbor or um homeowner interferes with that, the community um or any abutting property owner would have the right to get them sited for removing trees out of a undisturbed buffer. So that buffer will be a part of part of it, the first 20 feet of it will be a part of the lot and then the other 30 feet [1:18:36, 1:18:39]: will be owned by the um HOA. [1:18:41, 1:18:44]: Okay, my final question. [1:18:46, 1:18:49]: What did your anticipated build out period for this subdivision? [1:18:51, 1:19:11]: Um, if this project were approved, um, we anticipate that it would take um by the time we get through the uh land development permitting process, um, that it would take anywhere from um a year to 18 months to do all of the infrastructure installation. Um, and then we would be looking at uh probably another [1:19:11, 1:19:26]: uh couple of years um for complete build-out. So um I don't believe that you would see any homes go on the lots until uh probably sometime in 2022. Um and probably build out would take maybe to 2022. [1:19:26, 1:19:33]: twenty twenty four or something like that. So depends upon how fast the houses go. Four four to five years. [1:19:35, 1:19:40]: I don't know that it would take well, four you mean to complete the entire project? To finish, yeah. [1:19:41, 1:19:41]: Yeah, yeah. [1:19:42, 1:19:45]: Ten years. About three to five years. [1:19:46, 1:19:48]: Not not ten years for a hundred and forty two lots. [1:19:49, 1:20:01]: Well, I mean the the the other piece of that, uh and and I'm sure this is something that all developers deal with is the economy. Uh I mean, w we can do our best guess estimation, but if the economy tanks [1:20:02, 1:20:04]: It could be ten years. [1:20:04, 1:20:12]: And you you could it could be a PVC form for three or four years before some some construction resumes. [1:20:14, 1:20:18]: Th there is always that possibility. We don't know what the market will bear from that perspective. [1:20:19, 1:20:22]: Okay This is Dave Planton. I'm sorry I was unmuted. [1:20:23, 1:20:28]: Um, I have a question to ask and then a couple of statements to make for consideration if we have time. [1:20:30, 1:20:30]: Go ahead. [1:20:31, 1:20:33]: Uh my first question is with the [1:20:33, 1:20:36]: traffic impact study, why was one not done? [1:20:37, 1:20:39]: Knowing what we know about Brandon Road. [1:20:39, 1:20:44]: And specifically the Clark Meadow subdivision not even half built out yet. [1:20:45, 1:20:46]: I know they have a lot more lots. [1:20:46, 1:20:50]: available to build out than they currently have built out. [1:20:51, 1:20:53]: Plus the fact that Brandon Road is now [1:20:54, 1:20:58]: A major cut through from forty two highway over to Campground Road. [1:20:58, 1:21:02]: not just the people that live there that that utilize that corridor. [1:21:03, 1:21:06]: It's a now major cut through when forty two backs up. [1:21:07, 1:21:09]: Like it does going into McDonough. [1:21:09, 1:21:12]: Knowing the the the traffic situation in that area [1:21:13, 1:21:16]: compounded by the school, why wasn't a study done? [1:21:18, 1:21:35]: Um, I can only to say for myself that um with regards to many of the traffic issues, um I don't know that we were fully aware of some of those, particularly the ones along um North Salem Road, but um there has certainly been some discussion on our part about providing one. We were [1:21:39, 1:21:39]: Not [1:21:41, 1:21:51]: asked to provide one that I that I know of. Um that is a part of the applications, but um we were not provided with that information. So um obviously that's something that we're gonna have to reflect on and address. [1:21:59, 1:22:00]: Mr. Chairman. [1:22:00, 1:22:10]: Yes. Are are we gonna have a public comment uh component tonight or are we relying strictly on the Q and A's and the chats? [1:22:11, 1:22:12]: Um [1:22:15, 1:22:21]: We were supposed to. I don't know whether Lo uh Linda had the technology or had the people set up to do that. [1:22:22, 1:22:25]: But what I'm thinking well what I'm thinking, what I'm thinking, what I'm thinking. [1:22:26, 1:22:29]: Is that I think we've addressed most of the points here and [1:22:30, 1:22:31]: Um [1:22:31, 1:22:35]: My estimation is that we're not prepared to make a decision at this point. [1:22:36, 1:22:41]: Uh Miss Babel says she's going to have another community meeting and we're going to be invited there. [1:22:41, 1:22:46]: So that we can have an opportunity to hear both sides simultaneously before we make a decision. [1:22:47, 1:22:52]: Um so that being the case, I'm not saying that's it, but I will make a motion to that effect. [1:22:52, 1:22:58]: Uh uh that we address this at a later date before we bring in the rest of the camera. [1:22:58, 1:22:59]: I don't think [1:22:59, 1:23:04]: This the magnitude of this development, I don't think we can make a decision without hearing from the community. [1:23:06, 1:23:12]: I agree and I'd like to request that a traffic impact study be completed before we [1:23:14, 1:23:15]: take up this issue again. [1:23:18, 1:23:21]: Mister Chairman, I I agree with that. Also [1:23:22, 1:23:23]: Miss Logan. [1:23:24, 1:23:24]: Yes. [1:23:24, 1:23:29]: Are you reading the attachments on the email that you're sending to us? [1:23:30, 1:23:30]: Mm-hmm. [1:23:31, 1:23:32]: Which attachments? [1:23:33, 1:23:35]: Well the first original attachment [1:23:35, 1:23:36]: Attachment that you sent to us. [1:23:37, 1:23:40]: was kind of misleading and it was addressing [1:23:41, 1:23:41]: Uh [1:23:42, 1:23:44]: other counties or why things should be [1:23:45, 1:23:45]: Uh [1:23:45, 1:23:46]: Approved. [1:23:47, 1:23:50]: I thought that was unfair because of the fact that [1:23:50, 1:23:54]: We never had all the information pertaining to the property. [1:23:55, 1:23:58]: But we get this documentation stating [1:23:59, 1:24:01]: While we should approve. [1:24:01, 1:24:03]: this rezoning. I I was kind of [1:24:04, 1:24:06]: a little bit set back by that. [1:24:07, 1:24:12]: I'm not sure I know what you're referring to as far as attachment. I mean [1:24:13, 1:24:18]: No well I I would suggest there was a ruling made in uh Fulton County and uh [1:24:19, 1:24:21]: That was presented to us first. [1:24:22, 1:24:24]: When we should have had all the documentation. [1:24:25, 1:24:27]: pertaining to what these people were gonna do with this property. [1:24:28, 1:24:41]: is what I'm referring to you about on these attachments. Fulton County? I don't remember seeing anything about Fulton County. Well you you do. I can print it out and and make sure you get a copy of it or or either I'll take a snapshot of it and send it to you. [1:24:41, 1:24:45]: To give you some understanding. I I was a little bit set back because I thought [1:24:45, 1:24:46]: It was [1:24:46, 1:24:51]: a a bit of intimidation to approve this property. [1:24:51, 1:24:57]: uh zoning request. I I was a little disturbed by it because uh I didn't have actual information. [1:24:58, 1:25:00]: Relating to all [1:25:00, 1:25:01]: The uh [1:25:01, 1:25:04]: property designs and everything else, but I get this [1:25:05, 1:25:10]: first attachment that you sent and uh when I started reading it, I was like, whoa. [1:25:10, 1:25:14]: Why am I getting this when I don't even know enough about the problem? [1:25:14, 1:25:20]: I I'm sorry, I I don't know what detachment you're talking about. Uh who was detachment from actually. [1:25:21, 1:25:23]: Mr. Tibodore, can I interrupt for a second? [1:25:23, 1:25:24]: Yes. [1:25:25, 1:25:30]: Why don't you address that with Linda privately and uh we can finish this up today? [1:25:30, 1:25:38]: Uh I don't think well, I'd like to make a motion on this project. I'd like to make a motion that we table this matter until we have that community. [1:25:39, 1:25:40]: uh meeting. [1:25:40, 1:25:44]: And that we get input from the community before we make a decision on this. [1:25:45, 1:25:46]: I second that motion. [1:25:47, 1:25:51]: Because we definitely need more input input from the public. [1:25:52, 1:25:54]: prior to making such a important decision. [1:25:56, 1:26:16]: All right, it's been moved and seconded. All those in favor let it be known by the sign of I Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman, before we vote, would it be appropriate to attach a date certain relative to the body? Well we got to get the date up in the air. Okay. I understand that. We have to get the date from this battle. [1:26:16, 1:26:19]: Battle is going to have another public Zoom meeting. [1:26:20, 1:26:21]: And so we're gonna [1:26:22, 1:26:23]: Depend on her for the date. [1:26:24, 1:26:25]: Before we can all get together. [1:26:26, 1:26:26]: Miss Ballum. [1:26:28, 1:26:28]: Ви зберу. [1:26:29, 1:26:29]: Yes, sir. [1:26:30, 1:26:32]: Yeah, are you gonna you have any idea when you're gonna set that up? [1:26:35, 1:26:53]: Um I'm going to assume with the holidays that it will not make sense to have the meeting uh this month. Okay. So um what when is your next um planning commission meeting? Linda. I would assume the third the third Thursday in January. January January twenty eighth. [1:26:53, 1:26:55]: Twenty eighth or the twenty first? [1:26:56, 1:26:56]: Me eight. [1:26:57, 1:27:16]: The twenty eighth. Okay. So um I'm gonna assume that it will be probably around the eighteenth, somewhere the week of the eighteenth. Of January. Um yes, sir. Okay. Then let's do it. It'll be that either the week of the eleventh or the week of the eighteenth, somewhere the Linda has all of our [1:27:16, 1:27:33]: Linda has all of our email addresses, so she we would like to be notified. I I mean disappointed that we weren't notified of your previous meeting, but you know bygones be bygones. If you would notify us of of this future meeting, it would be really appreciated. [1:27:33, 1:27:50]: I I I have no problem doing that. I I will say this. I typically do not ask planning commissioners to these meetings because you all sit, depending upon how you look at it, in a quasi judicial position. So I don't typically ask planning commissioners because I'm usually told they don't attend those types of meetings, but [1:27:53, 1:28:00]: I understand what your protocol is. This is the first time I've been in in Stockbridge. So I apologize for that. And we'll make sure in the future that you get those kind of notices. [1:28:00, 1:28:02]: Well, the I mean this is [1:28:02, 1:28:05]: Just something I'm suggest. That's not part of our [1:28:05, 1:28:07]: uh protocol. [1:28:07, 1:28:10]: However, because of the magnitude of this project. [1:28:10, 1:28:27]: And the uh query that we're getting from neighbors and whatnot, uh, I think it's incumbent upon us to hear from the community before we make this decision. You saying Jad between January the eleventh and January 18th, you'll have this meeting set up, we can hear from the community. [1:28:28, 1:28:30]: And uh at the next meeting we can make a decision. [1:28:32, 1:28:37]: So Mr. Chair Mr Chairman, if I may ask a qu a question, you know [1:28:37, 1:28:38]: If [1:28:38, 1:28:40]: If she conducts a community meeting [1:28:41, 1:28:46]: And a quorum of the planning commission is there. Are are you all intending [1:28:47, 1:28:53]: to participate in the in that discussion or simply listen. Um, because if you participate [1:28:54, 1:29:03]: Uh it becomes an official meeting of the planning commission, subject to the Open Meetings Act and all that sort of stuff. And and we're just in an observation. We're just observers. [1:29:04, 1:29:11]: We just listening to find out what could I could I what what the issues are. Could I suggest go ahead. [1:29:11, 1:29:14]: Uh I'm sorry, can I suggest that we record [1:29:15, 1:29:19]: Hoard the meeting and provide you all with the recording. [1:29:19, 1:29:39]: I would hate to put you all in a position as as that's why that's why I didn't invite you all to the meeting. Um, but we we can record the meeting, um, the Zoom meeting, um, and provide you all with that. If I guess if you want to attend, you can talk that with the with your legal counsel there. But we will definitely record it and can provide you with that recording. Okay. Mr. Williams. [1:29:39, 1:29:43]: What I would think would be in order for us to make a an informed decision [1:29:44, 1:29:50]: Not participating, just listening to what the community is saying, because there's been a lot of response to this project. [1:29:50, 1:29:57]: And I would hate to think that the community think that we're overriding them and that there are other people in the community [1:29:58, 1:30:03]: Trying to influence us one way or the other, and we're accepting that. I'd rather hear from the community. I'm not participating in it. [1:30:04, 1:30:18]: Just hearing from the community what their concerns are and can they be addressed. I understand we're not trying to cure all interest and concern, but we're trying to make an informed decision and make sure that we are addressing some of the concerns of the community without killing the project. [1:30:19, 1:30:39]: And I believe that this board, members of this board should be able to attend this meeting as pure observers. No, no opinions, no, no feedback from us at all. We're just there to listen and and hear the community um concerns. Or if you know, if they don't have concerns, let's hear those as well. [1:30:39, 1:30:58]: well, but I think that it would be best for not for a recording, but for us to be there to hear for ourselves, which I understand that, you know, we don't want to cross any uh legal lines, but I think it would be better that we were actually there. [1:30:58, 1:31:18]: In observation of this, and this would work out better. It would actually show our community that we are definitely working for them. And as I stated earlier in this meeting, um Count Councilman Alexander approached me with his personal opinions about this project. [1:31:18, 1:31:38]: project without without us even receiving any information of of what was proposed. So we want the community to know that we are working for them and the city of Stockbridge and that then the interest of our citizens comes before anything. So if if the council would, you know, if the uh city [1:31:38, 1:31:58]: manager and um attorney will allow us to just be observers then um that would sit well and if there's a limited amount of the board members that you actually want to be in attendance then let us work that out as well because we don't want to say there's a quorum and and we made an opinion there at at this particular community. [1:31:58, 1:31:59]: [5519.8, 5522.7]: So we're just we're just asking for permission. [1:32:03, 1:32:11]: Well, I I hear you loud and clear. I guess where I was going on that is uh, you know, the public hearing requirement is really meant to be. [1:32:11, 1:32:14]: your opportunity to hear from the public. [1:32:14, 1:32:15]: And [1:32:15, 1:32:18]: If you wanted to have a special date for that. [1:32:19, 1:32:24]: Um that community meeting could in fact end up being your public hearing. [1:32:25, 1:32:29]: And so you could advertise it as such and still continue the hearing over to your actual [1:32:30, 1:32:31]: Decision date. [1:32:31, 1:32:36]: Um on the uh on the twenty eighth. And so that that was my point. So you wouldn't [1:32:36, 1:32:39]: have a community meeting and then have another [1:32:40, 1:32:41]: During where you would hear [1:32:41, 1:32:44]: much of the same thing that you would have already heard in the community meeting. [1:32:45, 1:32:46]: What would be your recommendation? [1:32:47, 1:33:00]: Well, uh you know, my thought process is that go ahead and and you know, utilize that date for the public meeting, the community meeting as your public hearing. And that would be my recommendation so you don't [1:33:00, 1:33:04]: have essentially you know two long meetings um [1:33:05, 1:33:07]: You could just condense that to one. [1:33:08, 1:33:12]: And so what you're suggesting is that we table this, have a community meet, and then make our decision. [1:33:13, 1:33:20]: Yes, sir. I mean that again that's I mean otherwise, but for the COVID, we'd have all these people in in in council chambers anyway. [1:33:21, 1:33:35]: So what I'm going to move again is that we table this matter, have the community meeting, and we'll make our decision following the net. We'll just that'll just be our public hearing as uh a component of the meeting. [1:33:36, 1:33:56]: May I say one thing is that w we may have other cases on January twenty eighth that the for the planning commission to hear at at their regular meeting. So we can't just make this one case be the meeting when when we may have other cases to be heard as well. Nobody's on that. Nobody's suggesting that at all. [1:33:57, 1:34:02]: Okay, let me let me that's not what I understand the suggestion to be made is being made. [1:34:03, 1:34:14]: I think Mr. Knighton has a question on the Mr. Knighton. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to make clarification. I believe the planning commission meeting in January is actually on the twenty first. [1:34:15, 1:34:18]: twenty first. [1:34:19, 1:34:22]: Okay. I wanna just make sure that the third that third [1:34:22, 1:34:26]: Thursday the twenty first. Be that as it may, we want to make sure that's clarified and clear. [1:34:26, 1:34:30]: The fourth Thursday, January twenty eighth. The fourth Thursday. [1:34:31, 1:34:31]: Okay. [1:34:34, 1:34:54]: Um the only thing I would have to um comment with regards to the public meeting. Um I I would want to make sure that at the meeting all of the um residents not only have an opportunity to talk, but that we as the developer have an opportunity to respond um to the questions. [1:34:54, 1:35:10]: and that there's kind of a free flow of information back and forth. And my only concern would be in a formal public hearing setting, we wouldn't really have that ability to have that um free flow. Um I I am certainly comfortable [1:35:11, 1:35:31]: with the idea of having two meetings. Um, I understand that you all want to participate in that meeting. Um, and it sounded like maybe a couple of you all could come. I mean, that that's for you all to work out. I'm not your legal counsel, so it doesn't matter in a sense to me from that perspective if your legal counsel [1:35:31, 1:35:34]: Council says that you all can all attend and just not say anything. [1:35:34, 1:35:54]: You know, that that's up to how you all deal with that. Um, but we would like um to be able to um hold a meeting so that, you know, in our at least when I hold my community meetings, I do try to let the community a ask as many questions. We can make it a one and a half hour meeting, uh two hour meeting, and then that way everybody can [1:35:54, 1:36:06]: definitely um you know have their questions and raise their issues and we try and address them. But that I obviously this is a decision you all need to make. Well that is that would be our preference. [1:36:06, 1:36:17]: That is the whole purpose of having that community meeting so that you can answer and address their concerns and uh we can make an informed decision. That's is and in fact what that's going to be [1:36:18, 1:36:20]: Is a continuation of this meeting. [1:36:20, 1:36:30]: only the public aspect of it. Ordinarily we would have the case that the the staff would present their case, the applicant would would present his case, and then the public comment. [1:36:30, 1:36:33]: We're not able to have comments today because of COVID. [1:36:34, 1:36:38]: And so what I'm suggesting because of the magnitude of this, let's have this meeting. [1:36:38, 1:36:39]: Let's [1:36:40, 1:37:00]: have the comments from the community. You can dress them as best you can and we can resolve as many as we possibly can and get on with this. It's not that we're trying to hold up the project, but we want to make it a decision that's going to be beneficial to both the community, the city and the citizens. Period. Okay. Well I'm not w I'm not afraid of having any kind of meaning. I [1:37:00, 1:37:20]: I see in the chat. I'm not afraid to hear what comments are and try and address the comments. Um, I just want to make sure that we all have an opportunity to to to speak and make sure that we have a opportunity to answer any questions that may come up. So however you all choose to do the meeting, I will show up with my team. [1:37:20, 1:37:31]: Well, it's gonna be up to you to set the meeting date. So from that point on, we'll uh it notifies we'll it will be in attendance. That'll be our public comment aspect and we can go from there. [1:37:32, 1:37:45]: Okay. So you want me to set up the meeting. Yes. Notify you all of the meeting date and then you all will act accordingly. Exactly. Okay. That's fine. That would be our p public uh comment uh portion of the meeting. Okay. [1:37:47, 1:37:48]: Any other questions? [1:37:53, 1:37:54]: Linda, do you have any additional comments? [1:37:55, 1:37:56]: Not at this time. [1:37:58, 1:38:00]: I believe Miss Nelson, um [1:38:01, 1:38:03]: Ms. Ms Nelson, did you have a comment? [1:38:05, 1:38:06]: Oh man. [1:38:09, 1:38:12]: Hearing none, I move that we table this matter until uh [1:38:13, 1:38:18]: Miss Battle notifies us of the uh meeting in which we can have public comment. [1:38:20, 1:38:22]: I will second that motion to [1:38:23, 1:38:26]: Hold off on this partic on the findings of this meeting until [1:38:27, 1:38:30]: The public notice had public meeting has been held. [1:38:31, 1:38:37]: Well the board can have a full jest. [1:38:37, 1:38:46]: Aye. Aye. Those opposed, the ayes have it. The motion is carried. The matter is tabled until the uh public comment meeting uh to be established by Miss Battle. [1:38:48, 1:38:49]: Linda? [1:38:50, 1:38:51]: Yes. [1:38:53, 1:38:54]: Next item. [1:38:56, 1:38:56]: Okay. [1:39:00, 1:39:01]: Let's see. [1:39:01, 1:39:09]: Number three, zoning modification zoning modification case. Number ZM 2020. [1:39:10, 1:39:14]: Rick Martin of Poulty Group and Poulty Georgia Holmes Division. [1:39:14, 1:39:19]: Request a zoning modification for the purpose of modifying the previously approved [1:39:20, 1:39:28]: 1996 development agreement and master plan for the former Aberdeen Village slash Brentwood subdivision. [1:39:28, 1:39:36]: To allow for the construction of a residential development containing single family detached and single family attached units. [1:39:36, 1:39:42]: Properties located in land lots twenty five, forty, and forty one of District Twelve within the Stockbridge. [1:39:42, 1:39:43]: City limits. [1:39:44, 1:39:45]: With frontage on the north side. [1:39:46, 1:39:50]: Of Walt Stevens Road between Spear Road and Brentwood Parkway. [1:39:50, 1:40:00]: It contains 155.2 plus or minus acres and is identified as parcel number 013 hyphen 01019000. [1:40:04, 1:40:05]: Mr Chair. [1:40:08, 1:40:09]: This is Randy Knighton, Mr. Chairman. [1:40:16, 1:40:19]: Yes, sir. Yes, thank you, ma'am. Um [1:40:20, 1:40:22]: I think you were finished, is that right, Linda? Were you complete? [1:40:25, 1:40:26]: Yes, Mr Chair. [1:40:26, 1:40:27]: Yeah. [1:40:27, 1:40:28]: Linda. [1:40:28, 1:40:29]: Yes. [1:40:29, 1:40:30]: Were you finished? [1:40:30, 1:40:31]: Yes. [1:40:31, 1:40:32]: Okay. [1:40:33, 1:40:34]: Mr. Knighton. [1:40:34, 1:40:37]: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. I wanted to mention to you [1:40:38, 1:40:42]: And and some of this is probably borne out in some of the correspondence you received. [1:40:42, 1:40:44]: W s with respect to this proposal. [1:40:45, 1:40:48]: Uh seemingly that there it's a fairly complicated [1:40:48, 1:40:55]: matter going back uh even to the mid nineteen nineties on this this particular proposal. And there are a number of things that [1:40:55, 1:41:01]: seemingly were revealed even in the last couple of days, that gave me some pause with respect to [1:41:02, 1:41:06]: Um, in fairness to uh the planning комісі, to the applicant, to citizens, to staff. [1:41:07, 1:41:09]: Be able to look at some of these things more closely. [1:41:10, 1:41:14]: I did uh contact and Linda has been in contact with uh Mr. Martin. [1:41:15, 1:41:19]: Uh over the past c uh several weeks. And I I did reach out to Mr. Martin. [1:41:19, 1:41:22]: um earlier today and race, you know, those concerns. [1:41:23, 1:41:25]: uh to him with respect to this proposal. [1:41:26, 1:41:27]: And [1:41:27, 1:41:29]: Asked about uh consideration [1:41:30, 1:41:34]: Of tabling this particular item for the items that I just enumerated. [1:41:35, 1:41:37]: I believe Mr. Martin is [1:41:37, 1:41:38]: Um [1:41:38, 1:41:42]: The applicant is I think I saw where he was raising his hand. I believe he's in [1:41:43, 1:41:44]: The forum somewhere. [1:41:45, 1:41:46]: Um to [1:41:47, 1:41:51]: To speak to the matter about perhaps um a request to table. [1:41:52, 1:41:54]: I wanted to provide that information to you, sir. [1:41:55, 1:41:56]: If I [1:41:57, 1:41:57]: I'm sorry. [1:41:58, 1:42:04]: No, no. Uh I'm just saying I I've read those correspondence that uh that you've issued uh and the um [1:42:06, 1:42:10]: complications of this matter we're dating back uh ninety five ninety six. [1:42:11, 1:42:15]: And so I understand that. That's the only thing I was saying. [1:42:15, 1:42:23]: Okay, thank you, sir. I don't know if the IT support can identify Mr. I believe it was Mr. Martin. I believe I saw where he had his Rick Martin. Hand his hand raised. [1:42:23, 1:42:25]: Oh there I see it now. I see it. [1:42:26, 1:42:46]: I'm a suggestion, Mr. Mark. Uh Mr. Chairman, I am here uh and and agree with Mr. Knighton. It would probably in the interest of uh clarity and understanding the scope of what we're trying to accomplish, I think it's a good idea to table this for the time being. We'll meet with staff and Mr. Knighton as they see fit and try to um [1:42:46, 1:42:51]: work through all the issues and and reschedule another another night. [1:42:53, 1:43:02]: Okay. Um I get a motion to table uh item number 2020 ZM 2020 oh one. [1:43:02, 1:43:04]: Does we have a time frame? [1:43:04, 1:43:05]: Pardon me? [1:43:07, 1:43:09]: Do they have a time frame they'd like us to table it for? [1:43:11, 1:43:16]: Mr. Knighton? Yes, sir. I would assume it would be the next planning commission meeting in January. [1:43:17, 1:43:18]: Okay. [1:43:19, 1:43:21]: So that would be the twenty eighth of January twenty eighth. [1:43:23, 1:43:26]: Well, I motion to table this one until January twenty eighth. [1:43:27, 1:43:28]: Document. And last second. [1:43:29, 1:43:31]: Who's second who who who's the second? Harold. [1:43:32, 1:43:33]: Harold Sibado. [1:43:33, 1:43:39]: All right, it's been moved and second. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of I. I agree. [1:43:39, 1:43:40]: Those opposed. [1:43:41, 1:43:48]: The as have the motion is carried the matters table to the next planning commission meeting, which is January twenty eighth, two thousand twenty one. [1:43:51, 1:43:52]: Uh [1:43:55, 1:43:56]: Any board comments? [1:43:59, 1:44:01]: Any board comment, further comments. [1:44:03, 1:44:05]: Hearing none, now I have a motion to adjourn the meeting. [1:44:07, 1:44:10]: Mr. Chairman, I move that this meeting be adjoined. [1:44:11, 1:44:13]: I'll second the meeting enjoyment. [1:44:14, 1:44:17]: All right, it's been moved and seconded. All those in favor let it be known by the sign of a [1:44:18, 1:44:26]: I agree. Those opposed? Aye serve. The motion is carried. The meeting is adjourned. We'll meet again January 28, 2021. [1:44:27, 1:44:28]: With all of you good health. [1:44:29, 1:44:38]: Thank you. And thank you, Planning Commissioners, for the service you provide to the city of Stockburn. Thank you. And Merry Christmas to Happy Holidays to all. [1:44:39, 1:44:41]: Thank you. Good night. Good night.
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    --- title: December 14 2020 City Council Meeting Via Zoom date: 2020-12-14 source: 2020-12-14_December_14_2020_City_Council_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:00:07, 0:00:09]: We are now recording everybody. [0:00:41, 0:00:46]: And I see that we are streaming uh live now as well. [0:00:56, 0:00:57]: Madam Clerk, are you there? [0:01:04, 0:01:08]: Yes. Okay. Appreciate it. [0:01:10, 0:01:13]: Good evening, everyone. [0:01:14, 0:01:14]: Okay. [0:01:16, 0:01:18]: Vanessa, was that you giving that feedback? [0:01:19, 0:01:21]: That is um [0:01:22, 0:01:24]: Vanessa and Robert. [0:01:25, 0:01:25]: Okay. [0:01:32, 0:01:34]: Well, ladies and gentlemen, I have six o'clock. [0:01:35, 0:01:36]: And we have a quorum. [0:01:36, 0:01:37]: So let's get going. [0:01:38, 0:01:43]: Like to call the meeting to order. This is our council meeting uh December 14th, 2020. [0:01:45, 0:01:47]: Miss Holiday, please roll call. [0:01:52, 0:01:52]: Mayor Ford. [0:01:53, 0:01:53]: How is it? [0:01:55, 0:01:56]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. [0:01:56, 0:01:57]: President. [0:01:58, 0:02:00]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:02:00, 0:02:01]: Present. [0:02:02, 0:02:03]: Councilman Alexander. [0:02:04, 0:02:04]: President. [0:02:06, 0:02:08]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:02:10, 0:02:11]: Present or [0:02:11, 0:02:13]: And Councilman Blount. [0:02:15, 0:02:15]: Present. [0:02:17, 0:02:22]: You're muted, sir. I s thank you. Uh Mayor Ford, do you have a quorum? [0:02:22, 0:02:23]: Thank you. Um [0:02:24, 0:02:24]: Miss Holiday. [0:02:25, 0:02:27]: Could please bow your heads for the invocation. [0:02:28, 0:02:48]: Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again as we do the city's business. Let us have a lot a good logical dialogue, make proper decisions for our citizens, and elected us to do the job for them. Allow us to be able to make sure we communicate properly, we're able to do the right things, and be able to set the city up for success and for a bright future. We just always [0:02:48, 0:02:50]: Lord in your name. Amen. [0:02:50, 0:02:55]: Amen. Okay, let's stand for the present lead. [0:02:58, 0:03:00]: Regular flag. [0:03:01, 0:03:06]: Of the United States of America. Okay. And to the republic for which it stands. [0:03:06, 0:03:12]: One one nation under God individual liberty and justice for all. [0:03:16, 0:03:17]: Thank you, folks. [0:03:18, 0:03:22]: And I need an adoption of the agenda and I'll call on Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, please. [0:03:22, 0:03:25]: Thank you, Mayor. Uh Mayor and Council. [0:03:25, 0:03:27]: A motion to [0:03:28, 0:03:29]: Table [0:03:29, 0:03:31]: Agenda items. [0:03:32, 0:03:32]: Thanks. [0:03:34, 0:03:35]: And thirteen. [0:03:37, 0:03:40]: To remove agenda item fourteen. [0:03:41, 0:03:42]: And to add [0:03:43, 0:03:44]: Confirmation [0:03:44, 0:03:46]: Uh Mr. Peterson [0:03:46, 0:03:49]: As economic development director. [0:03:51, 0:03:52]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:03:52, 0:03:53]: Second. [0:03:54, 0:03:56]: Okay. All in favor, motion, please indicate. [0:03:58, 0:04:01]: All in favor, unanimous. I appreciate that. Thank you very much. [0:04:02, 0:04:14]: I have now the adoption of the minutes. And these are the minutes from July 13th council meeting, minutes of July 28th council work session. [0:04:14, 0:04:17]: minutes for September twenty ninth council work session. [0:04:18, 0:04:26]: Minutes from October 12th of council meeting and a minute from October 27th, council work session. Need a motion to accept those, those minutes, please. [0:04:31, 0:04:31]: Yeah. [0:04:32, 0:04:34]: A motion to accept all those minutes, please. So move. [0:04:35, 0:04:36]: Thank you, sir. Second. [0:04:39, 0:04:40]: Is there a seven? [0:04:40, 0:04:41]: Second. [0:04:41, 0:04:43]: Yeah, Councilman Alexander, okay. [0:04:43, 0:04:53]: I would imagine if there's any further discussion, I would imagine probably not, but if there is, so be it. If so, if not, excuse me, if not, then uh please send it indicate the approval of the minutes, please. [0:04:55, 0:04:56]: Abstain. [0:04:57, 0:04:58]: Okay, who established? [0:04:59, 0:05:01]: I missed one of the meetings, so I abstained. [0:05:02, 0:05:04]: Okay. All right. So all approval limits. [0:05:04, 0:05:06]: Yeah, indicate the proof of the minutes, please. [0:05:07, 0:05:09]: Okay, four zero one. Thank you very much. [0:05:11, 0:05:13]: Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? [0:05:13, 0:05:16]: There are no public comments submitted. [0:05:16, 0:05:17]: Thank you. [0:05:20, 0:05:27]: All right, council, citizens, I have here a a um ceremonial type of um ordeal here, a proclamation actually. [0:05:27, 0:05:32]: Proclamation is for uh Henry County Schools. [0:05:32, 0:05:36]: School Heroes Day in Henry County Schools. [0:05:36, 0:05:38]: A proclamation honoring the Henry Carey School. [0:05:38, 0:05:39]: Educators. [0:05:40, 0:05:44]: Following the resolution declaring a state of emergency by Henry County Board of Education. [0:05:45, 0:05:45]: Henry County. [0:05:46, 0:05:46]: Georgia. [0:05:47, 0:05:50]: As a result of the global ver uh virtual pandemic. [0:05:50, 0:05:51]: No nascovid nainetin. [0:05:52, 0:05:56]: Рекомізing School Heroes Day and Henry County Schools. [0:05:56, 0:05:57]: And for other purposes. [0:05:58, 0:05:59]: Whereas on March twelfth [0:06:00, 0:06:16]: 2020, the Henry Cannes School District announced to families its intention to continue student learning away from school buildings and facilities through remote learning and other technological means, given the advice and consultation of state and local government. [0:06:17, 0:06:37]: And public health officials. Whereas on March 16, 2020, the district embarked on a student learning and remote work environment away from school buildings and facilities. With such student learning environment initially anticipated for a period of approximately two weeks, yet extended through the remainder of the school year. [0:06:37, 0:06:38]: Two thousand nineteen, two thousand twenty. [0:06:39, 0:06:58]: Whereas the board declared on April 2nd, 2020, a local state of emergency existed within the district and continues until certain conditions are abated. And whereas teachers, school-based staff, and district employees across Henry County schools adjusted their usual work environments to meet the needs of the students. [0:06:59, 0:07:16]: Whereas school leaders and district employees were separated from building work sites until the summer months. And whereas teachers, school-based staff, district employees worked an unusual three weeks into delayed start of the typical school year to promote a remote learning. [0:07:17, 0:07:21]: Whereas the board of education approved the gradual return to our campuses. [0:07:21, 0:07:26]: learning plan to allow students to choose to return to campus for instruction. [0:07:26, 0:07:28]: remain in remote environment. [0:07:29, 0:07:35]: Whereas school and district employees continue to deliver and support learning and operations through the unique worldwide pandemic. [0:07:36, 0:07:47]: Whereas the Board of Education realizes that the employees of the schools and districts of Henry County schools have overcome extraordinary obstacles to provide a hybrid learning method model. [0:07:48, 0:07:54]: of on-campus instruction concurrent with remote learning while continuing to adjust to new challenges each and every day. [0:07:55, 0:08:05]: Therefore, this proclamation, the city of Stockbridge recognizes these exceptional effort efforts and accomplishments of the Henry County employees. And the city recognizes [0:08:05, 0:08:21]: That employees all across the district have provided a heroic lift to support students, families, and fellow colleagues. Congress recognizes that through this pandemic, the rallying point of four families and communities is a local public school. [0:08:21, 0:08:36]: and dedicated staff. The City of Starbury recognizes the burdens shouldered by all staff members to provide a high quality education by using an approach and methods beyond those traditionally acquired in collegiate studies and or educational credentials or training. [0:08:37, 0:08:42]: The city of Stockbridge recognizes that the Henry County School educators have been uh stabilizing in force. [0:08:43, 0:09:03]: and positive ex positive inspiration through their their can-do attitude, unwavering commitment to the youth of our commun uh community, and uplifting spirit. Now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority, vested in me as a mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of city council members, uh council members [0:09:03, 0:09:07]: Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Nakeisha Gantt and Afonso Thomas. [0:09:07, 0:09:14]: Hereby declare Monday, December 14, 2020, to be recognized as School Heroes Day in Henry County Schools. [0:09:14, 0:09:26]: In witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand on the great seal of the city of Starbury, Georgia, in the 14th day of December, our year of our Lord 2020. And I sign this along with our clip Vanessa holiday. [0:09:27, 0:09:27]: I'll stand. [0:09:29, 0:09:30]: Outstanding. [0:09:30, 0:09:32]: On that note, we'll go to old business. [0:09:32, 0:09:43]: And um the first item of business deals with council consideration to approve the revised council initiatives counter for 2021, presented by Ms. Pearson, please. [0:09:43, 0:09:51]: Yes, good after good evening, Council. I'm presenting for your approval the revised council initiatives calendar for 2021. [0:09:51, 0:09:54]: The following revisions were made um [0:09:54, 0:10:00]: Juneteenth is removed from the calendar as it was approved by council as a city event. [0:10:00, 0:10:06]: And the addition of the event by Councilwoman Gantt in September. And those are the two revisions. [0:10:08, 0:10:08]: Okay. [0:10:09, 0:10:12]: Council, I need a motion to accept uh this particular proposal. [0:10:14, 0:10:15]: Some moved. [0:10:15, 0:10:16]: There a second. [0:10:18, 0:10:18]: Okay. [0:10:19, 0:10:22]: Okay, Councilman Blount second that any further discussion? [0:10:23, 0:10:26]: If not all all signified approval of this motion, please. [0:10:29, 0:10:32]: Okay. Okay, as you now so I appreciate it. Thank you very much. [0:10:32, 0:10:33]: Thank you. [0:10:33, 0:10:45]: Appreciate it, Miss Ms. Pearson. You're more than welcome to join us unless you you if you like, you're welcome. I don't think you have another presentation tonight, do you? No, I don't. So it's up to you whether or not you want to stay. Okay. Thank you. [0:10:45, 0:10:51]: We have a public hearing, but um dealing with our third reading and adoption of the FY twenty twenty-one operating budget. [0:10:52, 0:10:56]: Presented by Mr. Knighton and John Wiggins, please. Gentlemen. [0:11:00, 0:11:01]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. [0:11:02, 0:11:07]: Um I will attempt to share screen if IT will give me that privilege of sharing screen. [0:11:18, 0:11:22]: While they are in me that uh ability to share the screen [0:11:22, 0:11:24]: I would mention [0:11:25, 0:11:26]: That that's [0:11:29, 0:11:32]: This is the reading option. [0:11:40, 0:11:41]: Uh [0:11:42, 0:11:43]: Got a echo. [0:11:44, 0:11:47]: Yeah, you're the trends. [0:12:07, 0:12:08]: Yeah. [0:12:12, 0:12:15]: Okay. [0:12:19, 0:12:20]: All right. [0:12:21, 0:12:26]: Everyone see it okay? Okay. Yes, sir. We're good. Thank you. All right, all right. [0:12:28, 0:12:30]: I am still hearing those um [0:12:35, 0:12:35]: All right. [0:12:36, 0:12:37]: I'll proceed. [0:12:38, 0:12:39]: All right, Mary. [0:12:40, 0:12:41]: As you know, this is [0:12:41, 0:12:42]: Third. [0:12:43, 0:12:44]: Hearing reaction. [0:12:46, 0:12:47]: Of the point. [0:12:47, 0:12:48]: Only one buttons [0:12:51, 0:12:54]: I'm still getting some bad. [0:12:55, 0:12:56]: I can hear you. [0:12:57, 0:12:58]: Okay. Okay. [0:12:59, 0:13:03]: Uh this is the third hearing and adoption of the [0:13:03, 0:13:05]: Twenty, twenty, twenty one. [0:13:05, 0:13:15]: Absolutely. Do you have two volumes on two items ru uh up? Do you have two items that you're two uh [0:13:15, 0:13:19]: Two devices. Two devices that you're looking at? Nope, I'm done. Nope. [0:13:20, 0:13:21]: Isn't yeah the [0:13:21, 0:13:24]: Uh on on my end the feedback is too bad to even understand what you're saying. [0:13:25, 0:13:25]: Okay. [0:13:26, 0:13:28]: Is that better? That's perfect there. [0:13:29, 0:13:29]: Is that good? [0:13:30, 0:13:30]: Yeah. [0:13:31, 0:13:31]: Yeah, yeah. [0:13:32, 0:13:32]: All right, thank you. [0:13:33, 0:13:47]: All right, um yes, this is the uh third hearing and adoption of the twenty twenty-one budget. Obviously this has been discussed previously at two prior um budget hearings, and between uh the first and now the third, there have been some changes. [0:13:48, 0:13:51]: That have been made, uh, some reductions in certain areas. [0:13:52, 0:13:54]: Uh, which I provided you a list of previously. [0:13:55, 0:13:57]: With respect to uh the overall [0:13:57, 0:13:58]: Um budget. [0:14:00, 0:14:02]: Obviously for the viewing public. [0:14:02, 0:14:07]: Uh this budget uh is intended to coincide with the city's vision and mission statements. [0:14:07, 0:14:11]: Um to be the most progressive business and family oriented [0:14:12, 0:14:15]: Uh community in Metro Atlanta with a focus on enhanced quality of life. [0:14:16, 0:14:20]: uh and initiatives and promote a sustainable live work and play environment [0:14:22, 0:14:30]: Obviously also it coincides with our uh values of peace, professionalism, excellence, adaptability, communication, and ethics. [0:14:32, 0:14:38]: Couple of items that we would mention here. Um as we had had mentioned previously. [0:14:38, 0:14:49]: Um there were key aspects of the budget in including revenue, local option sales tax. We've seen some local option sales tax numbers actually increase even during COVID-19, but there is some uncertainty. [0:14:49, 0:14:50]: Uh regarding that. [0:14:51, 0:14:58]: Uh, still some uncertainty regarding that issue. However, we've seen our local option sales tax and spLOS numbers actually increase over the past [0:14:58, 0:15:01]: uh six months or so. One other consideration. [0:15:01, 0:15:05]: Uh, as we contemplated the twenty twenty one budget had to do with [0:15:06, 0:15:09]: Any bonding scenarios that might impact the budget. [0:15:09, 0:15:12]: Uh that was uh determined at the previous meeting. [0:15:12, 0:15:15]: Um and uh obviously the city has decided to [0:15:16, 0:15:19]: I move forward, at least with bonding certain projects. [0:15:19, 0:15:23]: The overall general fund budget is proposed to be twelve point seven three. [0:15:24, 0:15:39]: uh million dollars. Um uh proposed positions include a code enforcement officer and then several positions uh for public works technicians which would be specific to maintaining uh uh certain [0:15:40, 0:15:53]: um maintenance of the city uh and beautification. Uh that's proposed at six from general fund and two from stormwater. And then also there are placeholder positions for building inspection, building permit clerk, and civil engineer. [0:15:54, 0:15:58]: If the city decides to develop an in-house scenario. [0:15:58, 0:16:01]: For uh permitting services. [0:16:04, 0:16:15]: Again, uh six public works technicians uh specifically to ensure uh little removal, mowing of corridors, streets, public spaces, additional code enforcement officer proposed. [0:16:16, 0:16:21]: Provide support for overall maintenance of uh mainly private properties in this sense. [0:16:21, 0:16:27]: And then the uh positions that I've listed earlier are placeholder positions in this uh iteration of the budget. [0:16:28, 0:16:33]: uh if uh ultimately there is an in-house model for permitting which is determined. [0:16:35, 0:16:40]: Couple of things that we've discussed over uh the course of the um budget was [0:16:41, 0:16:45]: А а дінт холидай себраш. [0:16:45, 0:16:53]: And I'd make one note that that actually needs to be placed in the events section of the budget. I believe it was misplaced. [0:16:53, 0:17:00]: um uh in a council section, but that actually it would be a city uh h or city of um holiday event. [0:17:00, 0:17:02]: And that needs to be placed in the events section. [0:17:03, 0:17:19]: And then uh one item uh that I didn't make a note uh to uh you in the last uh week or so is a potential July fourth uh celebration. Uh certainly we expect the amphitheater to be completed by then, which would [0:17:19, 0:17:21]: potentially provide an excellent venue for [0:17:22, 0:17:26]: Uh perhaps a firework show or some other type of July Fourth. [0:17:26, 0:17:28]: Uh, celebration and as a placeholder. [0:17:29, 0:17:32]: Uh we'd recommend uh ten thousand dollars uh at this point. [0:17:33, 0:17:36]: Uh for that type of celebration uh for July Fourth. [0:17:37, 0:17:38]: uh celebration. [0:17:38, 0:17:47]: Obviously, uh capital projects are generally handled in at various aspects of the budget other than your normal general fund, which mainly deals with [0:17:48, 0:17:50]: Operational aspects of the budget. [0:17:50, 0:17:52]: And then since last [0:17:52, 0:17:55]: Uh, meaning there were additional modifications and reductions that are uh [0:17:56, 0:17:57]: Provided to you. [0:17:57, 0:18:01]: Um which uh totaled uh just about eighty thousand dollars. [0:18:02, 0:18:05]: Obviously, uh, given the covet uh pandemic. [0:18:05, 0:18:08]: Uh, we thought it would be prudent in uh [0:18:08, 0:18:11]: possible to reduce certain areas of travel. [0:18:11, 0:18:14]: Uh yeah, and um [0:18:14, 0:18:16]: Other aspects of the budget. [0:18:16, 0:18:22]: uh given travel would be uh fairly limited, we expect for the first quarter or so of uh next year. [0:18:23, 0:18:28]: And uh various other uh modifications were made. Of course, there were three budget hearings, this being the third. [0:18:29, 0:18:30]: Questing adoption. [0:18:30, 0:18:31]: Mm. [0:18:31, 0:18:32]: By the council. [0:18:32, 0:18:33]: Uh for those. [0:18:34, 0:18:39]: And uh I will stop share of this item for the moment. [0:18:39, 0:18:42]: And what asked to then uh share. [0:18:43, 0:18:46]: Uh one other item back to it here. [0:19:08, 0:19:11]: Let's see here. Hold on, let me move that. [0:19:27, 0:19:29]: Not being able to find that. [0:19:30, 0:19:36]: What are you trying to share, sir? I'm trying to share one other quick item. John may be able to share it for me. [0:19:37, 0:19:38]: Mr. Williams? [0:19:40, 0:19:45]: I think if he's having problems, he says you might be able to share it, uh share the item, whatever that is. [0:19:45, 0:19:46]: Okay, let me um [0:19:47, 0:19:48]: Let me try to pull it up. [0:19:48, 0:19:53]: I think I know what you're talking about, the German phone summary. That's correct, yes. All right. [0:19:54, 0:19:54]: Or they're not. [0:20:04, 0:20:07]: You have to give me um access to share. [0:20:24, 0:20:26]: Mr. Knight, you're currently the host. You can give it to John. [0:20:27, 0:20:27]: Yeah. [0:20:27, 0:20:30]: Give me just a moment. Sorry about that. No problem. [0:20:46, 0:20:48]: Well, let's see here. [0:21:07, 0:21:09]: Well, it's not allowing me to do that. [0:21:13, 0:21:18]: If you still have um if you still can share the screen, Ms. Knight, look at your email. [0:21:20, 0:21:21]: You can pull it up that way. [0:21:22, 0:21:25]: All right, there we go. All right, hold on. [0:21:26, 0:21:30]: Okay. All right. This is what I wanted to show. Sorry about that, Mayor and Council. [0:21:31, 0:21:33]: Uh I'll just go down here. [0:21:36, 0:21:37]: This is the overall [0:21:39, 0:21:42]: Uh general fund budget, as you can see here. [0:21:43, 0:21:49]: Um at twelve point seven three or so millim dollars after those minor modifications. [0:21:49, 0:21:50]: uh were made. [0:21:51, 0:21:59]: You can see all of the departments there. Many of the departments have actually gone down a little bit, a few departments going up, including public works, as you know, for the increase in. [0:21:59, 0:22:01]: A number of positions. [0:22:01, 0:22:05]: Um but then um uh you can see the overall [0:22:06, 0:22:09]: uh budget there summary at twelve point uh seven three. [0:22:14, 0:22:20]: Um this concludes Mayor Ford. Uh my presentation certainly would entertain any questions as it relates to [0:22:20, 0:22:24]: The overall budget um for uh fiscal year. [0:22:24, 0:22:27]: Uh twenty twenty one. Uh we have taken a painstaking [0:22:28, 0:22:37]: approach to the budget. And as you know, coming out of the budget retreat, uh, it was probably well over about fifteen million, fourteen and a half to fifteen million dollars. And so obviously we had to [0:22:37, 0:22:40]: Bring that down to a budget that um [0:22:40, 0:22:47]: had uh realistic revenue projections uh based on what we expect to happen in twenty twenty one. [0:22:47, 0:22:53]: And also include the proposed um increases to staff in certain areas in particular. [0:22:53, 0:22:56]: uh the public work staff to address certain needs. [0:22:56, 0:23:00]: Um uh we expect this budget. Uh it's a balanced budget. We expect the budget [0:23:01, 0:23:04]: To be solid throughout the course of twenty twenty-one. [0:23:06, 0:23:07]: We'll be glad to answer any questions. [0:23:08, 0:23:13]: Council. Okay. Mayor Pro Tem Thomas. Go ahead, please. First let me ask uh is this a public hearing? [0:23:14, 0:23:16]: Not yet. I haven't opened it up for the public hearing just yet. [0:23:17, 0:23:18]: Окей, текю. [0:23:19, 0:23:22]: Uh Mayor and Councillor, I'd like to uh motion. [0:23:22, 0:23:24]: To amend the third [0:23:24, 0:23:26]: Code enforcement position. [0:23:27, 0:23:29]: As a supervisory position [0:23:29, 0:23:32]: With an increase in funding. [0:23:33, 0:23:34]: And to a man [0:23:35, 0:23:37]: The organization a chart to reflect [0:23:38, 0:23:42]: The paid and class uh supervisory position. [0:23:44, 0:23:50]: Is there a second to that motion? I said. Councilman Barber seconds that further discussion, council. [0:23:52, 0:23:54]: Um Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [0:23:55, 0:24:00]: Uh Mayor, I just think um I I I haven't vetted that motion. [0:24:01, 0:24:03]: Um, my first time hearing about it, so [0:24:04, 0:24:05]: It it would be [0:24:06, 0:24:08]: wise for me to vector motion and look at [0:24:09, 0:24:12]: What's the increase in salary that we're getting ready to try to approve and [0:24:13, 0:24:19]: I don't know anything other than the motion. I have no idea what what how much funding we're talking about for that position uh and [0:24:19, 0:24:21]: Everything but anything pertaining to this motion. [0:24:23, 0:24:26]: Okay, thank you. Uh Council uh Member Burton Thomas Gway, please. [0:24:26, 0:24:34]: Uh uh Councilman Blount, that is a valid point about the salary. Now at the very last meeting. [0:24:34, 0:24:40]: Uh we did discuss that third position as a supervisory position. [0:24:41, 0:24:50]: Uh and the reason why I'm bringing it back tonight as a motion because uh we did not uh put it in the um proper [0:24:50, 0:24:53]: um format, you know, for the motion. [0:24:53, 0:24:57]: Um I would lean toward Mr. Knighton to [0:24:57, 0:25:01]: Um discussed that I don't know, Mr. Nighton. [0:25:01, 0:25:09]: It being a supervisory position, I know in the organization, in the in the pay and class document. [0:25:09, 0:25:12]: There is a pay category for [0:25:13, 0:25:16]: the regular um code enforcement position. [0:25:17, 0:25:35]: Uh I'm not sure, Mr. Knighton, what how this position would elevate as a supervisor. Right. I would if if the if the council is inclined to approve this position, I would also ask that you would allow myself and uh Ms. Holliday, the HR manager, to take the appropriate and necessary steps to include that position. [0:25:36, 0:25:40]: Um in uh any paying class and or in with any job description. [0:25:41, 0:25:53]: uh as necessary. I would imagine only that that position in the supervisory role would probably be 10 to 15,000 more than what we are currently paying our code enforcement officers. [0:25:53, 0:26:01]: Uh so if the position, the code enforcement position is improved, I would uh only think that it would be about about a ten to fifteen thousand dollar. [0:26:02, 0:26:13]: um increase over that standard. However, of course, that would be dependent upon experience and things of that nature for a particular person that would be hired for that position. [0:26:14, 0:26:15]: Yeah. [0:26:15, 0:26:16]: Council block. [0:26:17, 0:26:19]: Were were you finished, Mayor Putin? [0:26:19, 0:26:24]: No, I just I just wanted to thank um Mr. Nightingis for um adding that information. [0:26:25, 0:26:27]: Uh in and that brings another point. [0:26:28, 0:26:29]: Uh with with that position. [0:26:30, 0:26:38]: Um, we have no idea what that what a supervisor position would do. Have you guys developed a uh job description for a supervisor position? [0:26:39, 0:26:47]: Uh I would like to see if it's outside the guidelines, how much outside the guide outside the guidelines it would be of a regular code enforcement officer that will want. [0:26:47, 0:26:50]: that increase and what the increases be. We just approved the [0:26:51, 0:26:53]: Well we we we're just presenting a balanced budget. [0:26:54, 0:27:02]: And to uh having a uh to amend the agenda to bring us something now that will put us outside of the boundaries of what you just done. I would like for us to go ahead and vet that first. [0:27:03, 0:27:07]: for me before I approve something like that, because I would like to see. [0:27:08, 0:27:14]: what the job description for a supervisor code enforcement officer would look like with only three code enforcement officers. [0:27:14, 0:27:18]: So you'll only be supervising two other people. So I would like to see what [0:27:19, 0:27:23]: what that would look like uh versus uh department head oversight. [0:27:26, 0:27:35]: Uh Vanessa Holiday, ma'am ma'am, you were asking for the you want to I just wanted to clarify the record that that would be a conversation with Mr. Knighton and Miss Wheeler, the HR manager. [0:27:35, 0:27:47]: Right. Okay. Gotcha. Mirapal Tim Thomas, you had something, sir. Well, I I I just want to say that at the retreat in in September, uh, we did discuss that. I I can't remember maybe um [0:27:48, 0:27:53]: Um the the clerk can maybe speak to a little of that. I can't remember if we talked about [0:27:54, 0:27:54]: Um [0:27:55, 0:27:57]: you know, this job description and um [0:27:58, 0:28:00]: You know, p pay and class, I'm um [0:28:01, 0:28:03]: I'm not sure um [0:28:03, 0:28:06]: Madam Clerk and Mr. Knight maybe could [0:28:06, 0:28:09]: refresh all of our memory if we discuss I know we discussed it. [0:28:10, 0:28:12]: at the retreatment to that level. [0:28:12, 0:28:15]: Uh to Mr. Blood's concern, I I'm not sure. [0:28:15, 0:28:16]: Yeah. [0:28:16, 0:28:18]: Uh you know, I would I would [0:28:19, 0:28:19]: Yes, ma'am. [0:28:20, 0:28:22]: Oh no, go uh go ahead, Mr. Knighton. [0:28:22, 0:28:31]: Well Ms. Lynn's will explain. I'll come to you, Councilman Alison. I was gonna mention that for supervisory positions we have uh some of those [0:28:32, 0:28:36]: in various areas of um city uh organization. [0:28:37, 0:28:41]: That would provide general leadership and oversight of the subordinate staff. [0:28:42, 0:28:47]: And um so I don't think that we would be creating anything that would be [0:28:47, 0:28:49]: Out of bounds of what [0:28:49, 0:28:51]: In essence, we are generally doing [0:28:52, 0:28:56]: uh right now with respect to our overall uh організаціation [0:28:56, 0:29:04]: Uh, this position, if approved by the council, again would provide that leadership oversight uh and general supervision. [0:29:05, 0:29:08]: Um of uh of the code enforcement staff. [0:29:10, 0:29:11]: Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. [0:29:13, 0:29:21]: Uh yes, sir. Uh Mayor Pro Tem, I recall the discussion and uh what you kind of framed it uh in a nice package which you said. [0:29:21, 0:29:25]: Іно the two call enforcement officers we have now. [0:29:25, 0:29:28]: Uh who's out there in the field? [0:29:29, 0:29:43]: writing and uh supervising behind them. I think we have it broken down. One goes to one side of the city, one goes to the other side of the city. This new supervisory position would be an extra set of eyes. [0:29:44, 0:29:53]: That would be on both sides because you know we want to make sure that we're not missing uh items as we go through the city and an extra set of eyes. [0:29:53, 0:30:02]: to be able to help out and to be able to cover more territory as the city grows. And I think uh you has you had really explained well where you had uh some concerns about [0:30:03, 0:30:06]: Whether or not um there was a extra set of eyes going out there. [0:30:07, 0:30:12]: uh patrolling in those areas and I kinda really thought that that was uh that was appropriate. [0:30:14, 0:30:15]: Thank you. [0:30:16, 0:30:18]: Councilman Barber, did you have anything you need to add to this? [0:30:21, 0:30:25]: Well, Calsen and Alexander already stated my points, but [0:30:26, 0:30:28]: If we're done with this motion. [0:30:28, 0:30:32]: and vote for the supervisor of enforcement. [0:30:32, 0:30:34]: I'd like to make another motion. [0:30:34, 0:30:38]: Okay, stand by one second, please. Councilman uh woman Gantt, do you have any comments at all? [0:30:39, 0:30:42]: No more. Go ahead, please. [0:30:42, 0:30:43]: Um [0:30:45, 0:30:49]: I'm not saying that we don't need I I'm I'm in favor of a third code enforcement officer. [0:30:50, 0:31:00]: But at this time during the midst of this pandemic where there's not a whole lot of uh business entry by code enforcement right now. Is that by understanding, Mr. Knighton, there's not a whole lot of [0:31:00, 0:31:05]: uh building entry uh because of the provisions set by these different businesses and the different areas. [0:31:05, 0:31:08]: my code informants officer, so why would we [0:31:08, 0:31:11]: Go ahead and approve that salary now versus [0:31:12, 0:31:17]: Six months from now when when the money be well spent, when hopefully this [0:31:18, 0:31:21]: You know, things would lighten up where they can actually go inside these businesses. [0:31:22, 0:31:35]: Well, I would I would and to address your um question, Councilman Blount. Um we have obviously encouraged our staff to uh maintain proper precautions. However, code enforcement officers [0:31:36, 0:31:38]: Certainly can and do go out. [0:31:39, 0:31:43]: um throughout the community and can ride through the community and even [0:31:43, 0:31:56]: uh provide some level of interaction with uh business owners. That may not mean the traditional going into businesses, but certainly contacting businesses, uh riding throughout the city, identifying properties that have issues. [0:31:56, 0:32:00]: Uh, with respect to uh code violations, contacting those business owners. [0:32:01, 0:32:07]: et cetera. Um and so that level of of interaction, while it may not be traditional in the traditional sense. [0:32:08, 0:32:13]: of the physical contact going into businesses as frequently as has been done in the past. [0:32:13, 0:32:20]: But it still certainly would involve um being eyes and ears out in the community, assessing uh um [0:32:20, 0:32:28]: properties and um uh making notes, uh making contacts and even citations with respect to properties that are not in compliance. [0:32:31, 0:32:39]: Okay, Miracle Tim Thomas, go ahead, please. Yeah, I I just want to reemphasize that the code enforcement not only [0:32:39, 0:32:40]: Um [0:32:41, 0:32:50]: into the community as far as businesses, they're also, as Mr. Night stated, they're out in the community for as uh personal properties. [0:32:50, 0:32:51]: Um [0:32:52, 0:32:56]: When you look at the ordinances and and all of the guidelines for [0:32:56, 0:32:58]: Code enforcement. [0:32:58, 0:32:59]: Um [0:32:59, 0:33:01]: The pandemic really [0:33:01, 0:33:03]: have nothing to do with [0:33:04, 0:33:16]: um you know making sure that uh property owners and businesses are in compliance. And I also would add that uh and Mr. Night, you you knows this, uh even though we're discussing this. [0:33:16, 0:33:19]: But actually uh approving this position. [0:33:19, 0:33:22]: Uh and hiring it is in the uh city manager's purview. [0:33:23, 0:33:25]: Uh, even though my motion is to [0:33:27, 0:33:28]: Just to add [0:33:29, 0:33:32]: Third position as a supervisor position, but [0:33:32, 0:33:35]: Uh the hiring is in the um [0:33:35, 0:33:36]: The city manager's purview. [0:33:39, 0:33:39]: Okay. [0:33:40, 0:33:43]: Any comments from the council? Anything else? [0:33:44, 0:33:48]: If not the motion was made, it was seconded. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:33:49, 0:33:52]: One, two, three, our poles. [0:33:53, 0:33:56]: Okay, Miss Scann, are you approving or opposing? I'm sorry. [0:33:57, 0:33:58]: You're opposing? [0:33:59, 0:34:03]: Approving. Approving. Okay. So it's 4-1. Thank you. [0:34:03, 0:34:06]: Miss Barber, you had something else to add. [0:34:07, 0:34:09]: Yes, thank you. Um [0:34:09, 0:34:13]: I want to make a motion to approve a new position. [0:34:13, 0:34:16]: As procurement director to our twenty twenty one budget. [0:34:17, 0:34:19]: Um I will also [0:34:19, 0:34:21]: add to the motion to test. [0:34:22, 0:34:31]: HR and the city manager with creating the job description, the paying class, and to revise the org chart to include this new position. [0:34:32, 0:34:32]: Um [0:34:33, 0:34:35]: And I'd ask that this position be posted immediately. [0:34:37, 0:34:38]: Is there a second to that motion? [0:34:42, 0:34:44]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:34:46, 0:34:51]: Sorry, second. I I I was on mute. Second. Let's discuss it in the explan and uh she'll explain it as well. [0:34:52, 0:34:55]: Yeah, right. Uh one second. We'll say a second by uh Mr. Alexander. [0:34:55, 0:34:57]: All right, further discussion. [0:34:59, 0:35:02]: Uh Councilman Blanc, go ahead, please. [0:35:02, 0:35:05]: Um this to the city manager. I'm ch I'm trying to [0:35:06, 0:35:10]: I'm trying to follow these uh motions that are coming forth to us. [0:35:11, 0:35:13]: Uh is this in line with the current [0:35:13, 0:35:22]: procurement uh person we have, or is this an addition, or what is this? I mean, I have no idea. Um what was I [0:35:22, 0:35:27]: Once again, it's a motion that are you aware of the motion that just came forward, Mr. Knight? [0:35:28, 0:35:33]: I was aware of the code enforcement supervisor since that had been discussed previously. [0:35:33, 0:35:35]: This motion I'm not aware of, no. [0:35:36, 0:35:38]: Well that goes back to my point. [0:35:39, 0:35:41]: When you have council members that sit back [0:35:41, 0:35:43]: And all they gotta do is conjure up [0:35:43, 0:35:44]: Promotion to put out. [0:35:45, 0:35:46]: Імене сиді менеджер. [0:35:47, 0:35:48]: It's not even aware. [0:35:49, 0:35:52]: Of opposition. I'm sure the mayor's not aware. [0:35:52, 0:35:58]: No other council members aware of but of the people that council member wants to put the motion out to. [0:35:58, 0:36:10]: The process that is going on right here in the city of Stockbridge with with this council right now is so unorthodox and unfair to the citizens because you elected five council members and a mayor. [0:36:10, 0:36:12]: To represent this city. [0:36:13, 0:36:23]: And when you have information as as as as something as as as hirings and and budget changes and all this, and it's not being discussed among every elected official. [0:36:24, 0:36:27]: Not even the city manager and the mayor is not aware of it. [0:36:28, 0:36:48]: It's it's it's it's a it's a it's a ridiculous process that has been put into this council that this is not what the this is not what the citizens of Stockbridge has has has elected us to do is to go rogue anytime we want to to put something out here and not let the whole council be aware of what's going on, nor the city manager. [0:36:48, 0:36:56]: Nor even the mayor, and not even have a discussion on it. But all it's gonna take right now is three counts, three votes to say yes, let's do it. [0:36:56, 0:37:11]: And those three have been discussed, probably discussed this situation, and it moves forward. This is not the way we're supposed to do things in the city of Stockbridge. And I oppose, I oppose this process, and I hope the citizens see what's going on. It makes no sense to me. [0:37:12, 0:37:18]: I just give clarification, I have to admit this is the first time I heard this as well. And you're absolutely right, it is. [0:37:18, 0:37:20]: Mirapro Tim Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:37:20, 0:37:24]: Uh just based on that comment, I just wanted to make sure. [0:37:25, 0:37:27]: Uh that the [0:37:27, 0:37:33]: Code enforcement position, uh, I did not want that to be lumped into [0:37:34, 0:37:35]: That [0:37:36, 0:37:37]: Discussion. [0:37:37, 0:37:41]: Uh again, you know, that we're discussed at the uh retreat. [0:37:41, 0:37:42]: Um [0:37:43, 0:37:55]: I've had several conversations with uh Mr. Knight about this and he just indicated that he was aware of it. Um I spoke to the mayor about it. So I just want to make sure that. [0:37:55, 0:37:58]: Um that position and I think um [0:37:59, 0:38:15]: Everyone agreed uh that um the third code everyone agreed for the third code enforcement position, and I think everyone agreed on it being a supervisory position. I just want to make that clear and to separate. [0:38:16, 0:38:19]: That position from this discussion. [0:38:19, 0:38:24]: Mayor Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, just to re just to reply to you, I agree with you on that. [0:38:24, 0:38:41]: that the third code enforcement has been discussed. Whether we're gonna what hasn't been discussed yet with that is is monies nor j nor job duties. That's the only thing with that that hasn't been discussed. But this other this other motion just came out, this is out of the blue for everybody right now. So we'll see where it goes. [0:38:42, 0:38:44]: Councilman Barber, you had your hand up, please. Go ahead. [0:38:45, 0:38:47]: Now I'll yield to Councilwoman Gantt. [0:38:48, 0:38:50]: All right, Councilwoman Gantt please go ahead. [0:38:50, 0:38:54]: Mayor I I agree with Councilman Blount on this issue. [0:38:54, 0:38:54]: Um [0:38:55, 0:38:59]: In light of some of the most recent activities with procurement. [0:38:59, 0:39:01]: With some of the things that have um taken place. [0:39:01, 0:39:04]: I think um if not this meeting tonight. [0:39:05, 0:39:09]: um maybe another meeting we really need to have an executive session. [0:39:09, 0:39:13]: and discuss some of the events that's already taken place, but this is brand new to all of us. [0:39:13, 0:39:25]: And I ask that all of our council members respect each other and start speaking and talking to each other regardless of our views and differences. That has not been happening. [0:39:25, 0:39:28]: Um, neither has it been happening on emails. [0:39:28, 0:39:30]: Nor has it been happening by phone calls. [0:39:30, 0:39:35]: So I would appreciate if we start doing that so that we won't be surprised by [0:39:35, 0:39:38]: These motions in the middle of a budget hearing. [0:39:38, 0:39:39]: Um [0:39:39, 0:39:43]: I think that we should go based off of the budget recommendation of our city manager. [0:39:44, 0:39:44]: Um [0:39:45, 0:39:48]: We have had these hearings in past and prior. [0:39:48, 0:39:50]: And again. [0:39:50, 0:39:52]: Um on the record I [0:39:52, 0:39:53]: Well already voted. [0:39:53, 0:39:56]: In regards to the code enforcement, because that was discussed. [0:39:56, 0:40:01]: But this has not been discussed, and I think we need to hold off on that right now. [0:40:02, 0:40:04]: Councilman, go ahead, please. [0:40:05, 0:40:05]: I was under song. [0:40:06, 0:40:10]: Yeah, I I think the idea here is to have a discussion. [0:40:10, 0:40:25]: on a particular issue is not to actually just we're that's what we're doing now is is to have a discuss it. That's why I second it. Okay. It does not necessarily have to move forward tonight. We just need to discuss it. And I think um [0:40:25, 0:40:29]: When I spoke with uh Councilwoman Barber earlier, she made [0:40:30, 0:40:31]: А саференщи. [0:40:32, 0:40:41]: the fact that uh the city needs to be protected. You know, when you're in a position uh each p each position or each uh particular [0:40:41, 0:40:46]: uh department needs to have folks in the in that particular department. [0:40:47, 0:40:52]: that uh can assist. I think uh along with Miss Miller, her team, I think when she came [0:40:53, 0:40:57]: And I asked her when she first got here, I said that so what do you need? [0:40:57, 0:41:17]: This is an attempt to fill and to put some more people in that position because she asked for two positions. We've only given her one. So originally, when she came to us and she asked, I asked her, and you guys remember, how many? What do you need? She was very honest with us, and she said she needed two positions. So this is an [0:41:17, 0:41:37]: An opportunity. We only get we got one, she'll be a second one, and that is the idea because originally the procurement manager did ask for two positions. We only gave her one. Here's a second budget window to be able to give her a second one. It does not have to be decided tonight, it's just the opportunity to build a [0:41:37, 0:41:42]: [2502.6, 2507.0]: procurement manager as well because she asked for two positions. We've only given the one. [0:41:48, 0:41:49]: Thank you. [0:41:49, 0:41:53]: Well stand by please. Councilwoman again, I believe your hand was up first. I'm trying to keep track here, but go ahead. [0:41:54, 0:41:57]: Thank you. I I think it was I think council. [0:41:58, 0:42:02]: I think Councilwom Councilwoman Barber actually yield. [0:42:02, 0:42:05]: And for me to speak. So go I'll yield to her. [0:42:05, 0:42:05]: All right. [0:42:06, 0:42:08]: Go ahead, all right. [0:42:08, 0:42:09]: LA. [0:42:11, 0:42:12]: Okay. Um [0:42:12, 0:42:13]: Barber, go ahead. [0:42:14, 0:42:22]: Okay. Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate if you would acknowledge me um going forward. You tend to I have several times. Go ahead now. [0:42:22, 0:42:35]: Thank you. So I brought this motion forward because I thought it was important. There are key positions that we need to make sure that they are filled as the city moves progressively forward. [0:42:35, 0:42:41]: Procurement is just one of those areas that I want to ensure that we have adequate staff. [0:42:42, 0:42:45]: Not just procurement, but although that is a role. [0:42:45, 0:42:58]: Um, the procurement director is a role that I feel as though we desperately need right now. Um there are some specialized skills, um, the skill set, the experience that we need. [0:42:58, 0:43:11]: There's actually a task order that we'll be discussing during this meeting. And it will be one of the points that I'll make in justifying why we need a procurement director position. [0:43:11, 0:43:12]: Now [0:43:12, 0:43:13]: I know that [0:43:14, 0:43:17]: We currently have a procurement manager. [0:43:19, 0:43:22]: When I came on board in January and was warned in. [0:43:22, 0:43:25]: Um my very first motion. [0:43:25, 0:43:31]: was to promote her to procurement manager from procurement supervisor. [0:43:32, 0:43:42]: At that time, she only had a I think a temporary staff worker um working with her as just a procurement clerk. [0:43:42, 0:43:45]: Um I know that the council approved. [0:43:45, 0:43:49]: А перманет прокурмент спецілист рол. [0:43:49, 0:44:03]: under procurement. Now I don't know when that position was approved. Mr. Knighton, can you tell me when the procurement specialist position was approved by the council? Because that happened prior to me. [0:44:04, 0:44:10]: I believe it was approved as a part of last year's budget. So it would have if in effect, I guess, been [0:44:10, 0:44:13]: Taking place in January was when it was approved. [0:44:14, 0:44:16]: Okay. January of this year. [0:44:16, 0:44:22]: Thank you. That procurement specialist role still has not been filled. [0:44:22, 0:44:28]: Um and because of that, I have noticed that there have been several tasks. [0:44:28, 0:44:29]: We've given. [0:44:30, 0:44:36]: Um to Mr. Knighton and staff to complete. And they either have not been completed or not. [0:44:37, 0:44:38]: moved forward. [0:44:39, 0:44:49]: So to ensure that I don't have to continue to follow up and ask where are we with this? You know, what's going on with this, we will have a director. [0:44:49, 0:44:53]: Who will be able to God help facilitate [0:44:54, 0:45:03]: Offers some expert knowledge in certain areas. Um, this is no slight to anyone. I just want to make sure that there is um [0:45:03, 0:45:16]: Adequate staff, just in case we have an individual from any department that may go out on leave for whatever reason, we will have someone with the expertise. [0:45:16, 0:45:20]: in that particular department who's able to keep things moving. [0:45:21, 0:45:26]: Um, I believe procurement is one department that doesn't have a backup. [0:45:26, 0:45:31]: Um, with experience, I believe HR is another department that does not have [0:45:32, 0:45:34]: A backup uh with experience. [0:45:35, 0:45:38]: We need to make sure that these projects stay on task. [0:45:38, 0:45:40]: as his council approves them. [0:45:40, 0:45:45]: So I believe having adding a procurement director will help with that. [0:45:45, 0:45:48]: Um in addition to the procurement manager. [0:45:48, 0:45:51]: And also the procurement clerk. [0:45:52, 0:45:53]: The city's still [0:45:53, 0:45:56]: They still have not filled a role as [0:45:56, 0:45:59]: Of the procurement specialist. [0:45:59, 0:46:02]: That position has still gone unfilled this year. [0:46:02, 0:46:09]: Um so I figure instead of the procurement specialists, we will have a procurement director. [0:46:10, 0:46:12]: Um, so that is what my thoughts were. [0:46:13, 0:46:15]: Okay. Councilwoman Gantt, back to you now. [0:46:16, 0:46:23]: Thank you, Mayor. Um and I hear the concerns. I know that right now we were supposed to be having a budget hearing. [0:46:24, 0:46:26]: Um, so in the middle of that. [0:46:26, 0:46:29]: I just ask that because of some of the events that have taken place. [0:46:30, 0:46:32]: Um I have some concerns. [0:46:32, 0:46:34]: On you know [0:46:34, 0:46:36]: Us you know. [0:46:37, 0:46:44]: maybe necessarily being on the legislative side and I would like to discuss anything with procurement right now. [0:46:44, 0:46:47]: in executive session if we're gonna have one, if we don't have one. [0:46:47, 0:46:49]: Then we'll have one at the next meeting. [0:46:49, 0:46:51]: But I don't I think this is premature. [0:46:52, 0:46:56]: Um I understand the concerns that we had something in the budget. We've also had COVID. [0:46:56, 0:47:01]: And because of that, we haven't had as much activity as we would have, I think. [0:47:02, 0:47:04]: Um, I just asked that we [0:47:04, 0:47:06]: Um continue on with the budget hearing. [0:47:06, 0:47:14]: And anything that we need to amend for future purposes or anything dealing with procurement based off of some of the circumstances and personnel concerns that I have. [0:47:14, 0:47:17]: that we discuss those any behind closed doors in the executive session. [0:47:18, 0:47:18]: Thank you. [0:47:19, 0:47:20]: Councilman Blount, please. [0:47:21, 0:47:28]: Um once again I'll say because uh the motion came out with a directive attached to it. [0:47:29, 0:47:40]: It came with a directive attached to it. When anytime you want to do a discussion, it doesn't have a directive to if it was for the discussion, it would be for discussion. It had a directive to attach to it for HR. [0:47:41, 0:47:44]: And one of the things I can say that we have a city manager sitting here. [0:47:45, 0:47:48]: And we have a a we have a procurement department. [0:47:50, 0:48:09]: If any council member would like to see improvement in any department, then you go to the the processes to go to the city manager and say, can we get procurement together and find out what process we can put together and what and what they need that we can do right now to move to move things further and faster and better, if those improvements can be made. [0:48:10, 0:48:21]: It's not for any council member on here. We have to continue to be the elected body. We're not the city manager. We're not here to run the city. That's why we hired the city manager. [0:48:21, 0:48:28]: When we got council members come on here and they're and they're talking about how they want to run the city in detail. [0:48:29, 0:48:40]: That's just not the way it's supposed to be with the elected body. We're elected city councilmen with the legislative branch. We go to the city manager that's full-time and works every day. [0:48:40, 0:48:50]: to make sure things in the city goes the way we want it to go. We're not the ones that sit in the seats and act like we're city managers. It shouldn't work like that. [0:48:51, 0:49:11]: Councilman Alexander, go ahead, please. Yeah, this is what I want to say so everybody understand. During this time, during these meetings, we have discussions about what we're doing. We're talking about the budget. The budget has come forward. Even if we don't move forward with this particular item, we wanna discuss it, blanch it out. [0:49:11, 0:49:18]: Is an opportunity. This is an opportunity where we're not talking about things behind closed doors. The public is seeing the discussion. [0:49:19, 0:49:36]: Which I think is a good thing, that they actually get to see how we brainstorm and bring these things together in in terms of moving this policy out. I think the one thing that we need clarification on is that normally when we talk about a director, that is the head of the department. [0:49:36, 0:49:52]: This person is not going to be the head of the department. They will be a subordinate to uh Miss uh Miss Miller. They will be an assistant to her. They would not be someone coming in. So when we refer to directors uh in our city, how we how we operate. [0:49:52, 0:49:55]: The director is actually the person over the entire [0:49:55, 0:49:59]: uh department that is not the intent i don't believe so here [0:49:59, 0:50:01]: in that apartment is to bring somebody in. [0:50:01, 0:50:03]: That can back up Miss Miller. [0:50:03, 0:50:06]: And to be able to aid her, helping her get the work done. So that [0:50:07, 0:50:09]: Is the discussion here, not bringing somebody in [0:50:10, 0:50:29]: uh to uh over the top of her or to supervise her because in the end uh as we put all of our heads together this is the first in a discussion of every city department should have someone in that role ready to step in and take a place take place uh [0:50:29, 0:50:42]: Everybody should have somebody to be able to step in. We don't want to find ourselves in these positions where when uh somebody's we got we're dealing with covet right now, right? So if somebody's out and they have to leave. [0:50:42, 0:50:56]: When what do we do if that person becomes sick? Right now, it just like in the HR department, if Ms. Wheeler becomes sick, we hopefully not. Let's pray that that's not the case. Who would step in? [0:50:56, 0:51:16]: And be able to feel parole. We don't know that. So these are the type of discussions that we need to have because, see, in January, I've been around this five times now. The budget's already finished. The budget's already finished. That's what I'm gonna hear. We need to do a budget amendment now. We can't change it now. So in the end. [0:51:16, 0:51:20]: when we start having these discussions, we will be able to say we had this discussion. [0:51:21, 0:51:41]: And we agreed to continue the discussion. And if at some point there was agreement that we move forward with supplementing the procurement department, it wasn't well, you've never heard it before. We are having an opportunity to discuss it right now before the budget closed. We're not gonna do it, but we're gonna leave that opportunity open. [0:51:41, 0:51:57]: open should we come to an agreement that we did discuss it and that that is a possibility that we might actually do that uh going forward once all the uh pertinent information is obtained. And let me say something and I want to say this very, very clearly. [0:51:58, 0:51:59]: The city council [0:52:00, 0:52:01]: Is elected. [0:52:01, 0:52:10]: To put toget to run, to make sure that we pass the policies and to set up the city for success. [0:52:10, 0:52:30]: Yes, the city manager is the administrator of the city. But this council has every right, just like we decided we wanted the economic development director position to come back. We decided that. Okay. The previous administration didn't decide that. We did, okay, because it was [0:52:30, 0:52:44]: absolutely needed. So when we want to step forward and we see something lacking, all of us can do that. The people voted for us. They knew what they were voting for. And yes, okay, let me let me come correct. [0:52:45, 0:52:47]: Okay. I've been on this council. [0:52:47, 0:52:49]: For five years now, okay. [0:52:50, 0:52:52]: Three of those years, I didn't get any emails either. [0:52:54, 0:53:03]: I didn't get any emails. I wasn't informed. This is how this elected body works. The city works three votes. That's all you need. Three votes. [0:53:03, 0:53:06]: And then and again, okay, with all due respect, okay. [0:53:07, 0:53:09]: Uh you know, we these three. [0:53:09, 0:53:18]: Uh we we've been voting, we've been moving things along as we go along throughout the city, okay? The three votes, no matter which three of us is, right? [0:53:19, 0:53:38]: But when three votes come together, those three votes make the decision. Whether or not the mayor might veto it, three votes makes the decision. Okay? Now if if if it had been the way that you want it to be, Mr. Blount, then that we wouldn't have that power. We have the power to create any position that we want to. [0:53:39, 0:53:59]: Right, the city manager will be tasked with bringing back the results or the information that we need. Miss Barber has tasked the city wants to task the city manager with adding a different, another layer of support in this particular department. Now his job is to go back and to tell us how much it's gonna cost. [0:53:59, 0:54:12]: what it would look like and what the supervisory what the structure looked like. That's his job. Our job is higher level to tell them what we wanted to be done. Their job is to execute it. I don't ever forget that. [0:54:13, 0:54:15]: All right. Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [0:54:19, 0:54:29]: You're muted. Okay, go ahead. Just for clarity, I did say procurement director. Um, procurement director, I wanted to add a new position. [0:54:29, 0:54:31]: Um and I wanted to task. [0:54:32, 0:54:38]: I'm motioning to task the HR manager and the city manager with um [0:54:39, 0:54:42]: Preparing a new job description. [0:54:42, 0:54:44]: Also in [0:54:45, 0:54:52]: review the paying class or determine the paying class and to revise the org chart. [0:54:52, 0:54:53]: Um [0:54:53, 0:55:05]: I've already given an explanation. That's one explanation as to why I believe that we need to include a procurement director to make sure that we have. [0:55:06, 0:55:09]: Expertise and point of order. [0:55:10, 0:55:11]: To ensure [0:55:12, 0:55:13]: Bad. [0:55:13, 0:55:19]: All of the decisions that are made by the council move forward just as the council. [0:55:19, 0:55:21]: Has ordered them to. [0:55:21, 0:55:24]: Um then there's another level of [0:55:24, 0:55:41]: knowledge and expertise that I'm hoping that we'll be able to find. As we move along with more construction projects, that just requires another degree of expertise from another procurement professional. [0:55:41, 0:55:52]: But a procurement director is what I'm asking that we add to our twenty twenty one budget. Now you all approved a procurement specialist position. [0:55:53, 0:55:55]: Yet that position has not been filled. [0:55:56, 0:56:03]: If it's not necessary to fill the procurement specialist position, then we can do away with that in the budget. [0:56:03, 0:56:06]: And then just include a procurement director position. [0:56:07, 0:56:10]: But I like to move forward with that motion. [0:56:10, 0:56:14]: to add a procurement director position to our twenty twenty one budget. [0:56:15, 0:56:20]: I believe that motion was already made and seconded by Councilman I Alexander, I believe. [0:56:21, 0:56:23]: Uh Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, you're next, sir. [0:56:23, 0:56:25]: Thank you. Um [0:56:25, 0:56:27]: Let me just say that. [0:56:28, 0:56:31]: I I try to serve [0:56:32, 0:56:34]: as an elected official to [0:56:35, 0:56:39]: to to to do my due diligence in moving the city forward. [0:56:39, 0:56:45]: I have spoke to Mr. Knight and I've been in uh a meeting with Mr. Knight and Mrs. Miller. [0:56:46, 0:56:51]: And and my overall question has been and it still is today. [0:56:52, 0:56:56]: А да іні шоткомінс? [0:56:56, 0:56:59]: In the procurement процес. [0:57:00, 0:57:03]: And if that answer is yes. [0:57:03, 0:57:07]: We need to identify those shortcomings. [0:57:08, 0:57:10]: Make those modifications. [0:57:11, 0:57:12]: And move forward. [0:57:13, 0:57:17]: I have stated that several times to Mr. Knight and he would vouch to that. [0:57:18, 0:57:21]: And and I'm saying this here now tonight. [0:57:21, 0:57:26]: That is still it doesn't matter what um um department. [0:57:26, 0:57:40]: We have identified some issues in public works and we tried to address those. We have addressed one concern even in code enforcement, and I think we still need to talk about code enforcement a little bit more. [0:57:40, 0:57:43]: But that is our duty. [0:57:43, 0:57:46]: To look at all departments. [0:57:46, 0:57:48]: And to see [0:57:49, 0:58:02]: And to identify if there are shortcomings in any and all department. And if and if again, if the answer is yes, then we need to identify those, make those modifications. [0:58:02, 0:58:07]: and and and move the city forward with those modifications. [0:58:08, 0:58:21]: Um, I still believe that that is the way to go. Now I do believe in communication, you know, amongst all council members. I I think that's that's I believe in that as well. [0:58:21, 0:58:41]: But I I think still the question is, and I've asked Mr. Knight this question, and uh he has sort of said, yes, uh, there are some things that we can modify in the whole uh process of of procurement. And I I just hope that we could come together and identify those, uh, Mrs. Miller. [0:58:41, 0:58:43]: Um Mr. Knight and whomever. [0:58:43, 0:58:50]: We'll identify those and let's try to make the corrections. And that's the only way that we move the city forward. [0:58:51, 0:58:52]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:58:52, 0:58:55]: Am I okay. Now we've been talking about quite a bit. [0:58:55, 0:58:57]: Okay, I'm I see two hands left. [0:58:57, 0:59:02]: Councilman Gantt and then Barber I'm being Blount and then we'll end it and go to the vote so we can move on. Okay. [0:59:02, 0:59:03]: Thank you. [0:59:04, 0:59:05]: Thank you. And uh [0:59:06, 0:59:14]: I will decline. I will um remove the point of order issue because we were really on our budget. And one of the first things I heard. [0:59:15, 0:59:17]: You know, Casma Alexander had stated. [0:59:17, 0:59:21]: Um was in regards to this was all we were doing tonight was talking. [0:59:21, 0:59:23]: And that is not the case. [0:59:23, 0:59:26]: Um councilman barber has made a motion. [0:59:26, 0:59:27]: To [0:59:27, 0:59:31]: Direct staff to open up a position with a job prescription. [0:59:31, 0:59:32]: Immediately. [0:59:33, 0:59:35]: on something we haven't discussed before. [0:59:35, 0:59:39]: And that we do need to literally sit down, talk about. [0:59:39, 0:59:42]: and structure and find out what is the best [0:59:42, 0:59:43]: thing that we need to do. [0:59:44, 0:59:45]: If we haven't [0:59:45, 0:59:47]: Build a specialized [0:59:47, 0:59:49]: position in procurement. [0:59:49, 0:59:52]: Then there has to be a reason why we haven't done so. [0:59:52, 0:59:55]: Mr. Knighton is the city manager. [0:59:55, 0:59:56]: That is his job. [0:59:56, 0:59:58]: Him and Ms. Willers job. [0:59:59, 1:00:06]: to do those things. If they thought that we needed one at that time, then that's what they would do. And that's what I hold them accountable to do. [1:00:07, 1:00:18]: Now we can't sit here and say in one sentence that we're just here to do a discussion and then Councilwoman Barber gets up and makes a motion to go ahead and move forward with the position. [1:00:19, 1:00:21]: I think is unfair, I think is wrong. [1:00:21, 1:00:25]: Um, I think that but none of us have had a discussion on it. [1:00:25, 1:00:28]: Um some of us may have. I I don't know, but [1:00:28, 1:00:30]: As far as I'm concerned, I've never heard of it. [1:00:30, 1:00:32]: Um until tonight. [1:00:32, 1:00:40]: Um, and I think that that not necessarily unethical, but you're talking about putting a position in place. [1:00:40, 1:00:41]: Um [1:00:41, 1:00:49]: where all the council members haven't discussed what that position and what that should entail and what it should look like or whether or not we need it. [1:00:50, 1:00:55]: In this instance. And I'm going by your word, Councilman Alexandra. This is just up for discussion tonight. [1:00:56, 1:00:59]: We have Miss Miller. Miss I mean Miss Miller. [1:00:59, 1:01:00]: Um [1:01:00, 1:01:04]: Whether or not we have other things that we need to discuss. [1:01:04, 1:01:18]: Um in regards to some of the comments that you had made before about think taking things all out in the open, you're correct. Things such as this about the positions are to be discussed in the open. But when it comes to personnel and people crossing the line. [1:01:19, 1:01:23]: that could possibly violate charters, those things need to be talked about in executive session. [1:01:23, 1:01:25]: And so I say that to say [1:01:26, 1:01:31]: That there are rules for that. We usually go into executive session for real estate personnel litigation. [1:01:31, 1:01:34]: issues because they can all turn around to become [1:01:35, 1:01:36]: litigation issues. [1:01:37, 1:01:38]: And having said that [1:01:39, 1:01:41]: I just think that we should table this. [1:01:41, 1:01:45]: Until we're all on one accord and make sure that's the position that we need. [1:01:45, 1:01:48]: Now I don't know what that definition, a term of director would be. [1:01:49, 1:01:50]: Usually a director's over. [1:01:51, 1:01:52]: That department. [1:01:53, 1:01:53]: Yeah. [1:01:53, 1:01:55]: That wasn't the intent. [1:01:55, 1:01:57]: of what Councilman Alexander just stated. [1:01:57, 1:01:59]: That's not the intent of what I would want. [1:02:00, 1:02:01]: And I can't speak for anyone else. [1:02:02, 1:02:05]: But I think we need to sit down and literally talk about this. [1:02:06, 1:02:26]: Councilman Blount, uh he's gonna be the last one so we can move on, folks. Uh Councilman Alexander, if you don't mind, please, sir. Uh I just want to say, since uh our procurement department has changed from when I first got here, there's a we have a procurement manual. We have a lot of things. [1:02:26, 1:02:46]: That we're operating in this city on the same level, even better than the state of Atlanta right now. We've got so much going on. And Mr. Knighton, if there was any deficiencies, as as Mayor Pro Tem Thomas has uh alluded to, uh, I hope that we would those deficiencies would be discussed rather than we get right out here in public and [1:02:46, 1:02:49]: start to talk about one particular department. [1:02:49, 1:02:54]: on any department, whether it's procurement or any department, those things need to be discussed. [1:02:55, 1:03:15]: They need to be discussed. Those are personnel positions and things. And when we talk about positions and stuff, those things need to be discussed behind closed doors. So we don't come out here and look so uh discombobulated that we we're all over the place. You got one council member motioning with directives, another council member saying it's a is just only up for discussion, and we just got too much. [1:03:14, 1:03:18]: going on right here. This shows that we're not together on this stuff. [1:03:19, 1:03:27]: We're not together. And Mr. Knight, if if if allegations are being made that you know deficiency is in the department out front, I would hope that you would defend that out front. [1:03:27, 1:03:32]: Because uh because I think that uh Miss Miller, since I've been here. [1:03:33, 1:03:36]: I've seen her do an excellent job and been nothing but a professional at it. [1:03:38, 1:03:41]: All right. Um Mr. Knight, you need to respond to that, sir. [1:03:42, 1:03:48]: I'm I'm gonna if you're gonna leave the conversation there, Mayor, I will leave it there. But I think these certain things [1:03:48, 1:04:08]: need to be discussed in a different form when it comes to personnel matters because those uh obviously have a different sensitivity to it. But I will I will yield to you. I appreciate that. That's what I was gonna ask Mr. Williams. I think that we might be treading into some executive session issues versus uh things that we need to discuss in public. So I just will look into you, Mr. Williams, a legality of what we're doing right [1:04:08, 1:04:10]: Right now before we move on. [1:04:10, 1:04:15]: Uh Mr. Mayor, I wanna uh this what I wanna do. I'm gonna uh I'm gonna withdraw the second. [1:04:15, 1:04:22]: And then I'm going to um uh make a motion to table this for sixty days so the staff can bring back. [1:04:22, 1:04:24]: uh the data that we need [1:04:25, 1:04:28]: In order to uh possibly move forward with this. [1:04:28, 1:04:30]: So that would be uh [1:04:30, 1:04:35]: the new motion uh on the floor that this is something that's that's warranted. [1:04:35, 1:04:39]: But we're gonna br give the city manager the chance to come back. [1:04:39, 1:04:44]: And bring us some information to uh make a f final decision. So [1:04:44, 1:04:50]: Uh what I would do is withdraw the second and offer it a a a a a second amendment. [1:04:50, 1:04:53]: to table for sixty days and then bring it back to us. [1:04:54, 1:04:57]: Where we can have a full discussion. [1:04:57, 1:05:02]: on all of the items and then um including every all the pertinent parties involved. [1:05:02, 1:05:12]: I appreciate your effort there, Councilman Alexander, but it you you withdraw on a second doesn't withdraw the motion because you didn't make the motion in the first place. Councilman Barber did and I believe that is proper, Mr. Williams. Is that correct? [1:05:13, 1:05:17]: No, then we don't have a second. If we don't have a second, then you hop you can't have a vote. [1:05:18, 1:05:25]: Well, it's true. That's true. But typically if you want to make another motion, I think I thought that the individual first individual made the motion would have to withdraw there. Is that correct? [1:05:26, 1:05:32]: Mr. Well i if there if there's no second then that motion would die and then [1:05:32, 1:05:33]: Okay. [1:05:34, 1:05:43]: All right, so be it. Motion dies then, if that's the case. And so you're making an another motion as the act that you did. So is there a second to Mr. Alexander's motion? [1:05:45, 1:05:47]: Is there a second to Mr. Alexander's motion? [1:05:50, 1:05:51]: No second. [1:05:53, 1:05:58]: Okay. So we'll move on. Yeah. Uh mayor Thomas, please. [1:05:59, 1:06:00]: Yes, sir. You're muted, sir. [1:06:06, 1:06:10]: I was trying to get off mute. You know, uh [1:06:10, 1:06:14]: I I think it's it's a valid point. I I would hate for this [1:06:14, 1:06:15]: Not [1:06:16, 1:06:23]: to go without uh further discussion. So I I think Mr. Alexander's motion is is valid. So [1:06:23, 1:06:32]: Um what I would suggest, and I I'm going to second uh Mr. Alexander's motion, but what I'd like to see happen though is Mr. Knighton. [1:06:32, 1:06:38]: If Mr. Knight and and um Mrs. Miller, um if Mr. Nine would take the lead on this. [1:06:39, 1:06:40]: And let's discuss [1:06:41, 1:06:44]: Uh the whole procurement processes. [1:06:45, 1:06:51]: And as I stated before, let's see what changes need to be made. Let's see what positions. [1:06:51, 1:06:55]: need to be added. I I don't want this just to drop. [1:06:55, 1:06:56]: Uh [1:06:56, 1:06:58]: If if there are issues [1:06:58, 1:07:03]: And I don't know if they are, but if there are issues, uh, we need to move forward. So [1:07:04, 1:07:14]: Um, you know, I I would like to I would like for us to continue the discussion and I'd like for Mr. Knight to take the lead on this and make sure that um [1:07:14, 1:07:19]: you know, we have all the proper discussion. We look at what position needed. [1:07:19, 1:07:21]: Uh what um [1:07:21, 1:07:25]: You know, what modifications are needed in the process. [1:07:25, 1:07:28]: Uh because you know, we have been sort of going around and around [1:07:29, 1:07:46]: uh with procurement for a while. And so that to me tells me that there are some issues in the whole process of procurement. And um let's let's get it right. Let's make it right so we can move the city forward. So uh Mr. Knight, so [1:07:46, 1:07:48]: If you would like to [1:07:48, 1:07:51]: uh get with Mr. Williams or and whomever the um [1:07:52, 1:08:01]: uh the staff person that's in procurement, let's put this in some kind of format so we can discuss it and um try to make the necessary modifications. [1:08:02, 1:08:11]: I I definitely would not want it to drop, so I do second Mr. Alexander's uh motion. All right, the motion was made's been seconded by Mr. Alexander. Councilman Barber, you have your hand up, please. [1:08:12, 1:08:24]: Yes, so if you would have allowed it to come back to me, I would have rescinded my motion and made the second the secondary motion. But Councilman Alexander already did that. Fantastic. [1:08:24, 1:08:30]: What I don't um agree with is the 60 days. I'd like for us to bring this back in. [1:08:30, 1:08:39]: 30 days. And my reason being is because we already have task staff with some projects that have not moved. [1:08:40, 1:08:42]: And we don't want to wait. [1:08:42, 1:08:43]: Too long. [1:08:44, 1:08:44]: Um [1:08:44, 1:08:45]: To [1:08:46, 1:08:49]: Advertise if it is the will of the council. [1:08:49, 1:08:51]: to approve that position. [1:08:51, 1:08:52]: There are some things that [1:08:53, 1:08:54]: Have not happened. [1:08:54, 1:08:55]: And [1:08:55, 1:08:58]: We don't need to wait too much longer. So [1:08:59, 1:09:02]: Um councilman Alexander, are you okay with [1:09:02, 1:09:07]: Um Mr. Knighton bringing this back in thirty days as opposed to sixty days. [1:09:08, 1:09:14]: Look let's do this. Let's ask Mr. Knighton how much time he's gonna need. Is thirty days sufficient, Mr. Knighton? [1:09:15, 1:09:16]: Thirty days is fine. [1:09:17, 1:09:25]: Well thirty days is fine. If that that is the uh will of the city manager that he only needs thirty days to do it, we'll make it thirty days. [1:09:25, 1:09:31]: All right, so otherwise we rest miss uh we gotta restate this motion then. I would table this item to be revisited. [1:09:32, 1:09:34]: Uh in thirty days um [1:09:34, 1:09:37]: uh to uh reconsider uh this motion. [1:09:38, 1:09:39]: That's the second. [1:09:39, 1:09:43]: Okay, Miss Mary Potem second that. Uh Vanessa Holiday, ma'am. [1:09:43, 1:09:44]: You had a question. [1:09:46, 1:09:53]: Just asking if there's a specific meeting that it's coming back to because the thirty days would fall in between. [1:09:53, 1:09:58]: So I'm just asking if there's a specific meeting that you want to bring this back to. [1:09:59, 1:10:05]: Well, do we we don't normally conduct any business at the first meeting? Is that that's what I've learned. We're not gonna is that how's that work? [1:10:06, 1:10:13]: I mean the things on the agenda we'd we could discuss. I mean it's it's not uh Okay, well the very the the that would be the January um [1:10:14, 1:10:16]: Uh council meeting then thirty days. [1:10:17, 1:10:27]: Okay, so that's that's that that council meeting is on January That would be January eleventh. Okay, that that council meeting is on January eleventh. Understand that we have an agenda timeline and all of that. [1:10:27, 1:10:30]: So now if if you want to [1:10:30, 1:10:36]: Respect the full thirty days. January eleventh is fine, but I do want to just make that put that caveat there. [1:10:36, 1:10:45]: Once you start backing up from a January eleventh um agenda deadline and things of that nature, now you're talking about something that's well ahead of that. [1:10:45, 1:10:53]: Um, but we will we will seek to m Ms. Wheeler and I will get together and we will seek to address the uh item that as was motioned by the uh council. [1:10:55, 1:11:02]: Okay, so uh a standby please. Finesse Alde, you have do you have an understanding of the motion right now? Who made the motion in the second? [1:11:02, 1:11:04]: I have the um [1:11:05, 1:11:06]: The understanding that [1:11:06, 1:11:07]: Um [1:11:09, 1:11:15]: This is to look at the procurement position to find out how many positions you may need, what that salary may look like. [1:11:16, 1:11:21]: How it would fit in the department and the motion was made by Councilman Alexander, second and by [1:11:21, 1:11:29]: Thomas, I guess the clarification I need is are you speaking the January the 11th meeting or the work session in January? January 11th. [1:11:29, 1:11:30]: All right, thank you. [1:11:31, 1:11:31]: Right. [1:11:32, 1:11:34]: Councilwoman Gantt, you have your hand up. [1:11:35, 1:11:41]: I did. There's a couple I have I just want clarif clarity and also heard from Mayor Pro Tan Thomas. [1:11:41, 1:11:45]: Um, that we've had some issues in regards to [1:11:45, 1:11:46]: Um procurement. [1:11:47, 1:11:49]: And madam clerk for the record. [1:11:50, 1:11:56]: I want you to know that I haven't heard of any issues in regards to procurement until last year. [1:11:57, 1:12:17]: Um there were no issues and we had the same counsel except for Councilwoman Barber. So I want that to be on the record that we've never had, I've never heard anyone address or have any issues with procurement. I also want for clarification, what exactly is Mr. Knighton and Mr. Wheeler going to be researching? [1:12:17, 1:12:24]: Um, not whether or not they're putting up a job description, but what is what exactly [1:12:24, 1:12:32]: Are they going to do? Are they looking to see whether or not it's feasible, is reasonable, or is it needed? What will this look like? [1:12:33, 1:12:42]: I'm sorry, you want me to answer that? No, I I want I want Mr. Knighton, if he has the clarity of what is supposed to go on, I want to know what he [1:12:42, 1:12:46]: Is it what is he gonna do? Or does he know what he's supposed to be doing right now? [1:12:46, 1:12:49]: Well, Mr. Mayor, let me let me say this first, Mayor. [1:12:49, 1:12:59]: Go right in, Mayor Proton. No, I just want to make uh clarification to Mrs. Gantt. No, I didn't say there were issues in procurement. [1:12:59, 1:13:01]: I say if [1:13:01, 1:13:02]: There are [1:13:03, 1:13:05]: Let's make those modifications. [1:13:06, 1:13:07]: I just want to make that clear. [1:13:08, 1:13:17]: Right. And and Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, I I apologize if that was what she said, but for clarity, there haven't been any issues up until this last year. [1:13:17, 1:13:20]: And before that we haven't had any problems. [1:13:20, 1:13:23]: And so I just want to make sure that's on the record. [1:13:23, 1:13:35]: Stand by, stand by. Mr. Knighton, sir. You have clarity for you understanding what your mission is here. Yes, my understanding is to bring back before to the council by the January eleventh, twenty twenty one meeting. [1:13:36, 1:13:38]: Um an assessment of [1:13:38, 1:13:40]: Uh, the procurement division. [1:13:40, 1:13:47]: Obviously uh Miss Wheeler and I would get together, we would look at other comparable size cities, take a look at their procurement department, also [1:13:47, 1:13:49]: Would develop a job description. [1:13:49, 1:13:52]: Um for a uh procurement director. [1:13:52, 1:13:56]: Um and and or any other positions that may be [1:13:56, 1:14:00]: needed in a position or in a department of that size. [1:14:01, 1:14:05]: That is what I intend to do based on what I've heard in this conversation this evening. [1:14:06, 1:14:12]: All right. All right. Now listen, we've had plenty of discussion about this. So motion's been made. It's been second. So all in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:14:13, 1:14:16]: All favorite most, please indicate. All opposed. [1:14:16, 1:14:17]: Hi. [1:14:18, 1:14:21]: Mr. Blount, what's your decision, sir? [1:14:21, 1:14:22]: I can't hear you. [1:14:24, 1:14:24]: Uh uh. [1:14:24, 1:14:32]: I I oppose the uh thirty days and I oppose the uh until we bet the position and whether it's needed, uh we can't allow council members to [1:14:33, 1:14:53]: Okay. Motion motion pass three two. All right. Now this is actually a public hearing. So um what I need to do is open the public hearing up to the public in reference to the FY21 budget. So I'm opening up for any anybody that may have any comments out in the public uh that would approve uh this particular [1:14:53, 1:14:56]: approve of or comments positive, I guess, for this uh [1:14:57, 1:15:08]: 2021 budget. So on that note, I'm not sure, uh, Madam Clerk, if uh who is out there and if there's anybody out there at all that wants to make any comments. [1:15:08, 1:15:14]: For this. We have four individuals that are participants, but we have no QA at this time. [1:15:15, 1:15:34]: All right, okay. And if I if that's the case, then I'm going to go to any negative comments that the um in reference to anybody may have to say in reference to the FY 2021 budget. If there's any comments um in reference to that on the negative side and still no Q<unk>A, I would suppose. [1:15:38, 1:15:50]: All right, Mr. Mr. Williams, if I'll respond. Thank thank you. So Mr. Williams on that note, it's nothing positive, no nothing negative. So on that note, I am going to close the public hearing this point. Correct, sir? [1:15:50, 1:15:56]: Yeah. Thank you very much. All right. So uh on that note then um [1:15:56, 1:16:13]: We the council uh would say that uh need to make a motion as being made motion needs to be made to approve the FY twenty twenty one operating budget as it is stated thus far with any other adjustments we we just uh discussed. Is there a motion to accept that, please? [1:16:17, 1:16:21]: Is there a motion to set the FY twenty twenty one budget? Okay. [1:16:22, 1:16:24]: We played it. [1:16:25, 1:16:26]: Okay. [1:16:26, 1:16:28]: Mayor question. Well, yes, sir. [1:16:29, 1:16:30]: Mr. Knighton. [1:16:31, 1:16:33]: Uh it's for Mr. Knight. Mr. Knight. [1:16:34, 1:16:37]: Without any other adjustment, this budget is balanced. Is that correct? [1:16:42, 1:16:43]: That would be correct, yes. [1:16:43, 1:16:46]: Uh I I I motion to approve the budget. [1:16:47, 1:16:48]: Uh, is there a second? [1:16:48, 1:16:49]: A second. [1:16:49, 1:16:50]: Okay, great. [1:16:51, 1:17:00]: All in favor of the budget, please uh indicate the FY 2021, please indicate your approval. One, two, three, four. All opposed. [1:17:01, 1:17:02]: Sustain. [1:17:04, 1:17:10]: Okay, so it's uh four zero one budget pass. Okay, now the new business. [1:17:10, 1:17:14]: Council consideration to approve FY twenty twenty utility building right off. [1:17:15, 1:17:20]: in the amount of sixteen thousand six hundred three dollars and eighty eight cents. Mr. Wiggins, please. [1:17:21, 1:17:35]: Yes, this is an agenda item that comes up at the end of every year. This is um asking council consideration to approve the FY 2020 utility building write-off in the amount of sixteen thousand six zero three eighty-eight. [1:17:37, 1:17:38]: Um [1:17:39, 1:17:43]: I'm open for questions. Okay. Any questions from Mr. Wiggins? [1:17:44, 1:17:53]: Any questions off council for Mr. Wiggins? Uh mayor Pro Tem Thomas Guay, please. Uh Mr. Wiggins, how are you, sir? Just fine. Um [1:17:55, 1:18:00]: Ever since I've been on the council, every year there's it's always a write-off. [1:18:00, 1:18:03]: Uh and I've always asked [1:18:03, 1:18:09]: What about a track record of retrieving some of these funds? Number one, then number two. [1:18:09, 1:18:11]: Well any of these um [1:18:12, 1:18:14]: Repeat offenders. [1:18:17, 1:18:25]: No, because after once we once you approve this write-off, these these particular accounts have been closed. [1:18:26, 1:18:29]: So they were closed in the beginning of 2020. [1:18:30, 1:18:34]: Actually ending two thousand nineteen. So once you give the approval. [1:18:35, 1:18:45]: uh why we wait to the end of the year to do the write-off for the previous year is because we try to allow our um [1:18:47, 1:18:58]: our um outside collection company to collect as much as they as possible. But basically all these accounts have been closed. So uh it gives staffs a little bit more room to go ahead and try to [1:18:59, 1:19:00]: Get some money. [1:19:00, 1:19:01]: This [1:19:01, 1:19:03]: uh from'em. But [1:19:03, 1:19:05]: On average, we [1:19:06, 1:19:08]: Monthly average [1:19:08, 1:19:11]: When when it comes time to um [1:19:11, 1:19:17]: Look at all the bills, it's about a hundred it's about a hundred to a hundred and fifteen thousand dollars. [1:19:17, 1:19:26]: Each month staff goes through and they send out the notices of everything. And then once that happens, we always um [1:19:26, 1:19:33]: get a positive response as far as everybody coming in to pay their bill. So the bill drops tremendously. Uh [1:19:33, 1:19:38]: Uh goes back down to about twenty or thirty and the and then the next month. [1:19:39, 1:19:42]: you know, it goes back up. That's because it a lot of the commercial [1:19:43, 1:19:43]: Um [1:19:44, 1:19:46]: Utility bills are on there, but they [1:19:46, 1:19:49]: But but mainly everybody usually pays. [1:19:49, 1:19:52]: And this is a pretty low amount uh far as a write off. [1:19:53, 1:19:57]: Last question, Mr. Mayor. So how has [1:19:57, 1:20:00]: The pandemic affected um [1:20:01, 1:20:03]: Folk being able to to pay their bills. [1:20:04, 1:20:06]: Well, for twenty twenty. [1:20:06, 1:20:11]: Going into 2021, once we ask for another write-off property in 2021. [1:20:11, 1:20:14]: The pandemic has has affected [1:20:14, 1:20:16]: This year tremendously. [1:20:16, 1:20:17]: Um [1:20:18, 1:20:19]: We're probably gonna [1:20:20, 1:20:20]: Si [1:20:21, 1:20:23]: Your write off is probably gonna be a little more. [1:20:23, 1:20:25]: Next year because [1:20:25, 1:20:26]: Um [1:20:27, 1:20:28]: Because of the pandemic. [1:20:29, 1:20:33]: You know, you have a lot of people that have not paid matter of fact, we have not cut [1:20:34, 1:20:40]: We have not uh did any cutoffs for this um this year starting back in um I wanna say March. [1:20:41, 1:20:42]: April. [1:20:42, 1:20:45]: So we haven't cut anybody's water or [1:20:45, 1:20:46]: Um [1:20:46, 1:20:47]: Account. [1:20:48, 1:20:50]: Uh but we're coming up from the end of the year. [1:20:51, 1:20:54]: I know we got some things that's out there. Um [1:20:55, 1:20:56]: With CARES Act. [1:20:56, 1:20:57]: But [1:20:57, 1:20:59]: We're coming up at the end of the year. [1:20:59, 1:21:01]: And we haven't cut off anybody and [1:21:02, 1:21:03]: You know, um [1:21:05, 1:21:08]: It's gonna be affected. You we and we'll see the effects next year. [1:21:10, 1:21:18]: I would say hopefully through the CARES Act process that we're we're working with nonprofits, we'll be able to catch some of those and save some of those individuals in the process. That's what it's used for. So [1:21:18, 1:21:23]: We have to keep an eye on it. What I understand though, John, if you don't mind, is that I think [1:21:23, 1:21:41]: The amount that we're running right off now is is a lower amount comparably to the previous years. Is that correct? That you're well look, we'll this this particular amount here is two thousand more than last year. Last year was about fourteen thousand. Okay, all right. So we're about two thousand dollars over. But I have I do have to say. [1:21:41, 1:21:42]: Month to month. [1:21:42, 1:21:46]: Even though we've been going through the pandemic, people have been paying. [1:21:46, 1:21:49]: Okay, uh okay. Good doctor. Okay, we have [1:21:50, 1:21:52]: Okay, good deal. Thank you. Any other question from Mr. Wiggins, please? [1:21:54, 1:21:59]: Another question for Mr. Wiggins and I need a motion to accept uh his proposal. Is there a motion, please? [1:22:01, 1:22:03]: I'm moved. Is there a second? [1:22:03, 1:22:04]: That's second. [1:22:05, 1:22:06]: Yeah, Councilman Barbosecond. [1:22:06, 1:22:08]: Any further discussion? [1:22:08, 1:22:11]: And if not, all in favor motion, please indicate. [1:22:12, 1:22:16]: Hi. Okay, so now thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Wiggins. Appreciate it. [1:22:16, 1:22:16]: Thank you. [1:22:17, 1:22:23]: Council consideration to approve RFP number twenty twenty dash zero zero two seven P. [1:22:24, 1:22:28]: to Piggy Bank and award a contract to a seventy-two-hour LLC. [1:22:28, 1:22:33]: DBA National Auto Fleet Group under the National Joint Powers Alliance. [1:22:34, 1:22:44]: That's the NJPA, now known as a source well as of June 6, 2018, contract number 120716. [1:22:44, 1:22:50]: AF to purchase four vehicles in the amount of$138,429.36. [1:22:51, 1:23:08]: One for public works, one for government uh building maintenance, one for sewer, one for the events funding source, government building department,$34,452,030, public works department,$34,996.98. [1:23:09, 1:23:11]: Sewer department thirty three dollars. [1:23:11, 1:23:20]: uh excuse me, thirty three thousand uh nine hundred and eighty three dollars and ten cents in the events department thirty four thousand nine hundred and ninety six dollars and ninety eight cents presented by [1:23:21, 1:23:24]: Well, it says Miss Miller here and Dessis Aaron and C C McGee. [1:23:25, 1:23:25]: So please. [1:23:27, 1:23:28]: Uh yes, Mr. Mayor. [1:23:28, 1:23:29]: Uh [1:23:30, 1:23:36]: Staff would like to formalize the purchase of vehicles that was approved in the FY 2020 budget. [1:23:37, 1:23:40]: And the sewer truck that's being replaced is a [1:23:41, 1:23:54]: 19, it was a 2005 with 180,625 miles. And the public works truck is a vehicle that was loaned to uh event staff. [1:23:54, 1:23:57]: And that vehicle is beyond as useful life. [1:23:58, 1:24:00]: And the one for the government build is [1:24:00, 1:24:05]: that position was never filled and that position needs a vehicle to go with it. The current [1:24:06, 1:24:09]: Supervisor's driving his own personal vehicle. [1:24:09, 1:24:15]: And event staff need a a vehicle so they can transport items to and from events. [1:24:16, 1:24:25]: Okay. We're we're budgeted in the FY twenty twenty budget. Okay. CC McGee, you're online. You anything you need to add, ma'am, at all. [1:24:29, 1:24:43]: Hi everybody. Maybe everyone is doing well. No, I don't need to add anything. Desha's pretty much laid it out in my department. We need a truck. We don't have one. The one that we have has gone beyond repair in our division. [1:24:43, 1:24:48]: Okay, thank you. Council, any questions for these two individuals at all? [1:24:50, 1:24:52]: Okay. Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:24:53, 1:24:57]: Mr. Aaron, you said the supervisor is driving his own vehicle. Supervisor of what department? [1:24:58, 1:25:00]: Uh government buildings. [1:25:04, 1:25:06]: Oh, supervisor in what position? [1:25:07, 1:25:09]: He's the supervisor for government buildings. [1:25:10, 1:25:18]: There was never uh that position was vacant for an extended period of time. And then when we filled it, there was no vehicle to go with that position. So [1:25:19, 1:25:24]: We're requesting it was put placed in a twenty twenty budget to buy a vehicle for that position. [1:25:25, 1:25:30]: How many SUVs do y'all currently have over now over there for for um [1:25:31, 1:25:32]: Public works. [1:25:32, 1:25:36]: Only SUB is the one that I have and the one that Jeff Greenway has. [1:25:37, 1:25:38]: Those are only two. [1:25:39, 1:25:43]: Why would you need two between you and Mr. Greenway during the day, course of the day? [1:25:43, 1:25:46]: Well,'cause he's out doing things and I'm out doing things as well. [1:25:48, 1:25:49]: Okay. [1:25:51, 1:25:55]: You know questions for Mr. Aaron or Miss McGee, Council? [1:25:56, 1:26:00]: Seeing none. Anybody need I need a motion then to accept this proposal, please. [1:26:01, 1:26:02]: So moo. [1:26:03, 1:26:05]: Okay, Ms. Alexander, is there a second? [1:26:05, 1:26:06]: I'll take it. [1:26:06, 1:26:08]: Okay, Councilman Gantt, any further discussion? [1:26:10, 1:26:12]: If not, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:26:12, 1:26:13]: Hi. [1:26:13, 1:26:16]: Okay, you now so appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Aaron and [1:26:17, 1:26:18]: And C C appreciate that. [1:26:18, 1:26:20]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. Okay. [1:26:21, 1:26:23]: Council consideration to approve um [1:26:24, 1:26:25]: RFP. [1:26:26, 1:26:43]: 2092-00022P, state contract nine nine nine nine nine dash zero zero one dash SPD 0000154-001. Right away maintenance in the amount of [1:26:43, 1:26:50]: 150,000 uh funding source public uh public works uh budget. [1:26:50, 1:26:51]: Mr. Aaron, please. [1:26:51, 1:27:00]: Yes, Mr. Mayor, we're coming before council to ask them to renew the contract we currently have with uh CGL that maintains certain portions of the city's right-of-ways. [1:27:01, 1:27:04]: Okay. Any questions, Council, Mr. Aaron? [1:27:05, 1:27:05]: Yes. [1:27:06, 1:27:08]: Yeah, yeah. Uh Mr. Blount, go ahead. [1:27:09, 1:27:12]: Mr. Aaron, when we talked about extra employees. [1:27:13, 1:27:15]: And setting the budget to do that. [1:27:16, 1:27:17]: Um [1:27:19, 1:27:25]: Well I'm just I'm trying to figure out that when we talk about extra employees that you say you need. [1:27:26, 1:27:28]: Do we need this contract to be renewed? [1:27:28, 1:27:29]: Yeah. [1:27:30, 1:27:40]: Yes, sir, we do because even though we have excuse me. Mayor Forbes. Yes, sir. Ask all council members to mute their phones, please, while one council member is speaking. [1:27:40, 1:27:46]: Well, if you could mute your phones, that'd be great. Appreciate it, Council. Go ahead, uh please do that. Council Moblung, go ahead with your uh with your comments, please. [1:27:46, 1:27:50]: Uh no, I just wanna hear from Mr. Aaron. That's all. [1:27:50, 1:27:53]: I need twenty different things before I vote on it. That's all I need. [1:27:53, 1:28:13]: Yes, sir. Uh I think Councilman Alexander and some other council have requested that's in there, but also come January 1st, even though we have those new positions, it's not like we're gonna start January the first and have those new employees on hand. We're still gonna have to do some things that we don't have the resources to do. This as we move. [1:28:13, 1:28:23]: move forward into the year, there could be a contract, even though it's approved for 150, we might not need that contract, but we need something to get us to the point until we're fully up the staff. [1:28:24, 1:28:29]: Because come January first, we're not if the budget's approved, those eight people are not gonna start January the first. [1:28:31, 1:28:32]: Okay. [1:28:32, 1:28:36]: Any other questions for Mr. Aaron, Council? Councilman Alzheimer, go ahead, please. [1:28:36, 1:28:40]: Uh this is what I wanna say as clear as possible to everybody tuning in. [1:28:41, 1:28:44]: And everybody's watching. There's a new standard in Stockbridge. [1:28:45, 1:28:50]: There's a new standard in Stockbridge. Okay, what we've been doing. [1:28:50, 1:28:52]: Funding it inadequately. [1:28:53, 1:29:08]: You know, what I what I hear from citizens to this day is things that keep, you know, they love how Rock Quarry Road looked. The contractors cutting it. These are the contractors. They love how Hudson Bridge looked. They love how Highway 138 now actually has an acceptable appearance. [1:29:09, 1:29:17]: All of these are done through a contractor who are making these things happen, improving the overall appearance of the city. [1:29:18, 1:29:18]: Okay. [1:29:19, 1:29:33]: Now, we certainly have additional complaints about litter and other things. We have people in position that are gonna attack that and they're gonna improve, keep raising the level of the appearance of the city. [1:29:33, 1:29:39]: with adequate funding to make sure that we get to where we're trying to go. [1:29:39, 1:29:42]: Okay. What we were doing in the past hasn't worked. [1:29:43, 1:29:53]: I'm sorry, you know, this it this is occasion where it took three votes again, okay? The three votes or the four votes approved the contractor for Rock Quarry Road. [1:29:53, 1:29:56]: They approved the contractor for Hudson Bridge. [1:29:56, 1:29:58]: They approved the the contract. [1:29:58, 1:30:00]: For Highway one thirty eight. [1:30:00, 1:30:04]: Those are things that the citizens love and want. [1:30:04, 1:30:13]: We have to make that progress. And it would be great if we could get a unanimous vote on these things because citizens love it. [1:30:13, 1:30:20]: They love the fact that they can be proud of the city that they live in and things keep escalating. [1:30:20, 1:30:23]: But also just remind yourself just today. [1:30:23, 1:30:25]: We got an email from a business owner. [1:30:26, 1:30:28]: Complaining about a homeless encampment. [1:30:29, 1:30:30]: Okay. [1:30:30, 1:30:32]: In a particular area of the city. [1:30:32, 1:30:36]: Okay, those are the kind of things that we have to deal with. [1:30:36, 1:30:47]: the maintenance and the uh cleanup for. It is what it is. It's unsanitary, but we don't have the resources to take care of that. But we have the responsibility to clean it up. [1:30:48, 1:30:51]: So those are the type things that we have to take care of. [1:30:51, 1:31:09]: You know, I do what I can every day to try to supply food for those in need. But in this time of COVID right now, we got things going on that are out of control. But in the end, the one thing that we have 100% control of of this council is the appearance of this city. [1:31:09, 1:31:16]: And I support this wholeheartedly and I make a motion to move forward with approving this contract. [1:31:16, 1:31:17]: as requested by staff. [1:31:18, 1:31:20]: Is there a second for the motion? [1:31:22, 1:31:26]: Is there a second? I second. I second. Councilman Gantt, second that. Any further discussion? [1:31:28, 1:31:29]: Saying none. [1:31:29, 1:31:31]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:31:32, 1:31:34]: Fantastic unanimous. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. [1:31:35, 1:31:47]: Council consideration to approve ITB invitation to bid number 171 TB082817 dash DDR, excuse me, DRR. [1:31:47, 1:31:55]: American Tank Maintenance LLC full serv full service tank maintenance program in the amount of sixty thousand four hundred nineteen dollars. [1:31:56, 1:32:02]: Funding source FY twenty twenty-one water department budget presented by Mr. Aaron. Again, please. [1:32:02, 1:32:22]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. The city's drinking water permit requires that our uh water storage tanks be maintained and inspected annually. And this is just asking Mayor and Council to renew the contract with American Tank. They're they've been on board for about a year. They're current currently servicing the city's water tanks. They also paint them when they're in in in need of painting. [1:32:22, 1:32:27]: But the main thing is we have to have the annual inspections and cleanups of the tanks. [1:32:27, 1:32:31]: Thank you, sir. Any questions? Um uh Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:32:31, 1:32:35]: Mayor, our motion that we move forward with this. Uh I thank you. Thank you. Zero second. [1:32:36, 1:32:38]: I second. Any further discussion? [1:32:39, 1:32:41]: If not all in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:32:43, 1:32:43]: Okay. [1:32:44, 1:32:44]: Aye. [1:32:44, 1:32:46]: Okay, see you now, so appreciate that. [1:32:47, 1:32:49]: Okay, uh what's next is the um [1:32:49, 1:32:59]: Actually confirmation for to for to um for the economic director, uh development director, uh gentleman by the name of Mr. Peterson. I would think uh Mr. Knighton, this is on you, sir. [1:33:02, 1:33:04]: Uh yes, Mayor, I believe. [1:33:06, 1:33:11]: Okay, that'll be fine. We won't address this now. That'll be fine. Uh yes, um uh mayor and counsel. [1:33:12, 1:33:16]: Ажіно, барчу в чатер. [1:33:16, 1:33:22]: Uh, for the position of director, uh as it's brought forth by the city manager, must be confirmed. [1:33:23, 1:33:25]: by the city mayor and city council. [1:33:26, 1:33:30]: I'm requesting uh that the mayor and council uh confirm [1:33:31, 1:33:31]: Um [1:33:32, 1:33:32]: Um [1:33:33, 1:33:35]: Alan C. Peterson the second. [1:33:35, 1:33:39]: um as economic development director for the city of Stockbridge. [1:33:41, 1:33:41]: So moved. [1:33:42, 1:33:44]: Okay, this cancel move to the second. [1:33:45, 1:33:45]: Okay. [1:33:46, 1:33:50]: Okay, Miss Mayor Pro Tem, sir. Mayor Pro Tem Tom a second. Any further discussion? [1:33:51, 1:33:52]: Uh sir, if I could [1:33:53, 1:34:02]: I I would like for folks to understand what this position does, and I'd like a little bit more explanation for Mr. Knight. So, what do we hope to accomplish? [1:34:02, 1:34:08]: By bringing this gentleman in so the public clearly understands that this person is working in their best interest every day. [1:34:08, 1:34:08]: Uh-huh. [1:34:09, 1:34:10]: I missed it. [1:34:10, 1:34:15]: I'm sorry. Yes, Mayor Council, of course, um economic development is a vital component of any city. [1:34:15, 1:34:21]: And it undergirds uh much of what a city hopes to accomplish in terms of its overall vision. [1:34:21, 1:34:27]: The economic development director uh in this case would work along with staff and of course with the council in setting [1:34:28, 1:34:40]: uh certain uh uh directives, um uh developing uh certain items such as market studies uh and those types of things to chart the course for an overall strategic plan for the city to move forward. Most importantly. [1:34:41, 1:34:44]: Um this position uh would um [1:34:44, 1:35:00]: uh place itself uh in the realm within Metro Atlanta and also of course throughout the nation uh to be uh in place and in a position uh to attract new businesses, new companies uh to the city of Stockbridge. [1:35:00, 1:35:07]: But take a look at the overall landscape of the city, opportunities that we have, would work uh collaboratively with um [1:35:07, 1:35:11]: The state chamber of commerce uh with the local Henry County. [1:35:11, 1:35:22]: uh development authority and the other development authorities, the DDAs and those entities, to bring in new business and new companies to the city of Stockbridge and to ensure the Stockbridge is properly positioned. [1:35:23, 1:35:41]: to be at the table um when uh new businesses uh seek a new home or seek to relocate. In addition, uh would work with existing businesses to ensure that they are strong uh and maintain business retention uh for the city. So it's a very key position, an important position. [1:35:42, 1:35:47]: I believe we've got an excellent candidate to help move the city forward and to be a part of the overall vision. [1:35:48, 1:35:58]: T talk about how, or if I could follow up, how uh this department was able to help out with bringing Hegler. The department was able to help out with bringing Hegler. [1:36:00, 1:36:04]: Sure, the Hegler company, uh, which is located right off of Rock Hory Road. [1:36:04, 1:36:05]: Rum Creek. [1:36:06, 1:36:10]: Um is an international um uh company. [1:36:10, 1:36:16]: First international company here in the city of Stockbridge. And obviously the economic development department had several discussions not only with [1:36:16, 1:36:19]: Dem Hengler Corporation, but also [1:36:19, 1:36:32]: uh uh various other entities, uh state and local levels, to uh work with uh the Hegler Corporation to relocate here. And they decided to relocate in the city of Stockbridge and are very, very close, very close. [1:36:32, 1:36:35]: То в резів'я ультимат сертифікат в окупації. [1:36:35, 1:36:37]: uh for opening uh that facility. [1:36:38, 1:36:51]: Um, so it was a great investment uh for uh the city of Stockbridge, great investment they're making in the city of Stockbridge. And uh it's great to uh have them uh on board in the city and it's it's first of uh hope. [1:36:51, 1:36:55]: We hope uh many to come of new businesses in the city of Stockbridge. [1:36:56, 1:37:04]: Any other comments? Any other comments? And if not, motions have been made in the second. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:37:05, 1:37:06]: Ah [1:37:06, 1:37:10]: Okay, fantastic. And you now, congratulations to Mr. Peterson. [1:37:10, 1:37:12]: And I know Miss Nine, you'll [1:37:12, 1:37:16]: Extend that hand to him, said welcome, sir. You're now part of the city of Stockbridge. [1:37:17, 1:37:17]: Okay. [1:37:18, 1:37:25]: All right, the presentation we have, and it's a presentation, City App Demonstration presented by IT Simple. [1:37:25, 1:37:29]: Um okay. So who is that exactly? [1:37:31, 1:37:36]: Yes, Mayor Ford, we have uh Stacy Lavelle and we have Ron, I thought Ron Freeman. [1:37:37, 1:37:38]: Was with us for a moment. [1:37:39, 1:37:42]: There with IT Simple, uh, an app firm. [1:37:42, 1:37:49]: Uh they were selected to provide a new city app for the city of Stockbridge. And this is one additional means by which we [1:37:49, 1:38:00]: want to get as much information out to the public as we can. As you know, there are many way, many different ways that technology has allowed us to convey information to the public. [1:38:00, 1:38:07]: Uh this is yet another way and we're very excited about this opportunity to um have uh a city app. [1:38:07, 1:38:26]: We've um basically had a very, very, very soft opening so far, uh, but we'll um certainly after uh tonight's demonstration, uh we'll make sure that um we blanket the public with information so that everybody can um access uh our new uh city app. [1:38:27, 1:38:31]: And with that, I believe I'll turn it over to Miss Uh Lavelle. [1:38:32, 1:38:38]: Hi, yes. Thank you, Mr. Knighton. I appreciate the invitation from uh you and Miss Thornton to [1:38:38, 1:38:42]: Uh demonstrate the app and the mayor and the council for um [1:38:43, 1:38:47]: Uh accepting and attending. So I'm really excited to share with you. [1:38:47, 1:38:55]: Uh, it's my town, which is the official app of the city of Stockbridge. I am going to share my screen. [1:39:13, 1:39:14]: All right. [1:39:16, 1:39:22]: Hopefully everyone can see my screen. Not yet, yes. Not yet. [1:39:31, 1:39:33]: Alrighty, just give me a moment. [1:39:45, 1:39:46]: Well, and there we go. [1:39:48, 1:39:53]: All right, I think I'm hearing some affirmative. Yes. All right. Terrific. [1:40:00, 1:40:03]: All right, let me go ahead and pull up the app. [1:40:08, 1:40:10]: It'll take just a moment to load. [1:40:13, 1:40:20]: All right, and this is one of the first things that the citizens will see when they access uh the It's My Town app. [1:40:20, 1:40:21]: Um [1:40:22, 1:40:41]: We it's privacy first. Uh your citizens will be able to download this app from the Apple or Google App Stores for free. It does not cost them anything. Um, we do not ask for registration at all, so there should not be any privacy concerns expressed by your city. [1:40:42, 1:40:46]: А нор дой ті симпол гар орна інформація. [1:40:47, 1:40:48]: Oh. [1:40:48, 1:40:52]: Uh and this screen allows um alerts. Let me go back. [1:40:55, 1:40:57]: All right, and here it is. [1:40:58, 1:41:18]: Um, the app consists of five main buttons, which you'll see at the bottom of the screen: news, local, places, events, and dime. The top of the screen consists of uh a menu. Uh there's a button for services directory and officials. We'll take a quick peek at all of those. Um, and in the middle is [1:41:18, 1:41:33]: A uh what we call a slider that presents some of the more recent news items and events, um, as well as uh a link to about, which if the uh user touches that goes in and and there's a [1:41:34, 1:41:36]: Uh verbiage about the city of Stockbridge. [1:41:37, 1:41:57]: And at the bottom, you will see an area that is used for real-time alerts that can be pushed out for the city. So for example, if a street is closed or if there's a weather type event that the city wants citizens to prepare for, the city can send out notices to people that have this app. [1:41:57, 1:41:58]: installed on their phone. [1:42:00, 1:42:09]: So we'll jump right into uh some of the main features of It's My Town, and I'll start out with events. It has probably the most [1:42:10, 1:42:12]: uh functionality in it. [1:42:12, 1:42:20]: So when I hit the button, uh you can see here uh actually tonight's event was published out on It's My Town. [1:42:20, 1:42:26]: Um and I'll scroll down. You can see some of the other like you've got your planning commission coming up later this week. [1:42:26, 1:42:30]: Uh and then I actually already have the council meeting out on. [1:42:30, 1:42:33]: Uh, the app as well for January. [1:42:34, 1:42:40]: So scrolling back, some things that your citizens will be able to do when using It's My Town. [1:42:40, 1:42:52]: is in the upper uh right right to the right hand side of the date is the link. This is the link that would take the user to the zoom meeting so that they can watch the meeting on their device. [1:42:53, 1:42:55]: There is a letter icon. [1:42:56, 1:42:58]: Allowing citizens to [1:42:59, 1:43:09]: um send an email. Uh in this particular case it goes to uh Ms. Holliday, who is the clerk, but that can be linked to anyone at City Hall. [1:43:10, 1:43:19]: The next item is um a pinpoint, and I'm gonna demonstrate this. I'm gonna touch the little balloon or the little location icon. [1:43:19, 1:43:26]: And what this does is allow your citizens to if they are once the city hall opens and begins having [1:43:27, 1:43:32]: Uh their council meetings live, they will be able to map their way. [1:43:32, 1:43:41]: Uh using Apple Maps, Google Maps, or Waze, and they can even get a car service to the meeting or what other ever what. [1:43:41, 1:43:46]: Um ev whatever other event there is that the city is putting on. [1:43:48, 1:43:55]: Um and then below that is the phone, uh, and that allows citizens to touch that and uh [1:43:56, 1:44:03]: place a call, all they have to do is touch the screen and call the city hall or whoever the appropriate person is. [1:44:05, 1:44:09]: Down at the bottom of the events, there's an RSVP button. [1:44:09, 1:44:15]: This allows uh your citizens to respond if they plan to attend in person. [1:44:17, 1:44:20]: The next one over is share. [1:44:20, 1:44:25]: When citizens press this, it allows them to share the [1:44:25, 1:44:40]: event, whether it's a meeting or I I know earlier in the meeting you were talking about potentially having uh a July 4th celebration, they can share that via text, via Skype, there's uh email, there's a number of ways that they can share it. [1:44:40, 1:44:42]: With friends and family. [1:44:42, 1:44:51]: And then the last is save, which allows the citizen, the user to actually save the event to the calendar. [1:44:51, 1:45:00]: So quite a bit that they can do all on the app without ever, ever leaving the app or having to visit the city website necessarily. [1:45:03, 1:45:08]: Also on the app is the news uh module. I'll go ahead and press that now. [1:45:11, 1:45:16]: And this shows the news items that are published by the city. It includes the graphic. [1:45:17, 1:45:21]: uh you know pertinent information citizens can then choose more [1:45:22, 1:45:24]: Uh when they touched the little icon there. [1:45:25, 1:45:31]: Uh it opens up and ha it has more text in this particular case. Again, it's the council meeting for this evening. [1:45:31, 1:45:39]: Uh the citizen can just uh tap the links. They've got all the call information if they don't want to do it via Zoom. [1:45:40, 1:45:42]: If they only wanted to do it via telephone, etcetera. [1:45:44, 1:45:47]: And you can see here we published um [1:45:48, 1:46:04]: Ms. Thornton published the paving project that started today. There was a holiday songs event, a virtual event over the weekend, also on here. So all of the all of the news events that have been posted. [1:46:05, 1:46:14]: And the upper right is, I'm sorry, in the lower left is places. And these are all the uh public places within the city. [1:46:14, 1:46:16]: Currently is populated. [1:46:16, 1:46:31]: with the various parks and community centers in the city. If the city wishes, they can add uh police substations, fire stations, libraries, whatever information they would like the citizens to have. [1:46:33, 1:46:47]: Uh and the upper uh right area of the the main buttons is local. Uh this is particularly helpful for when uh citizens are trying to find uh local businesses. [1:46:47, 1:46:55]: Um, what's interesting about uh these particular uh modules, and I'm just gonna tap grocery as an example. [1:46:56, 1:46:59]: Um it actually scrapes the web. [1:46:59, 1:47:18]: for businesses local to where the person actually is located. So you'll notice here that none of these are gonna look familiar to you. I don't live in Stockbridge, but it the my the app knows where I'm located and searched for groceries or grocery stores in and around where I physically am located. [1:47:23, 1:47:29]: And then there's also a dyne feature that functions very much the same way when your citizens press dine. [1:47:30, 1:47:37]: Um it will uh search the web based on the person's physical location and um [1:47:39, 1:47:49]: uh brings back the restaurants. There is a filter capability. So in the upper right hand corner to the uh next to the word dine, there is a funnel. [1:47:49, 1:47:52]: Um this is allows your user to [1:47:52, 1:47:55]: Uh pare down or uh [1:47:55, 1:48:00]: uh put specific criteria in for them to [1:48:02, 1:48:08]: Look for a restaurant in this particular scenario. I chose Chinese and all the Chinese restaurants came back. [1:48:08, 1:48:13]: Um citizens can also choose to search if they wanted to look for a specific restaurant. [1:48:18, 1:48:21]: And just like the functionality with events. [1:48:22, 1:48:28]: The user can either press the telephone or the um location icon. [1:48:28, 1:48:30]: to either call the establishment [1:48:30, 1:48:33]: Or uh get the lo the um [1:48:34, 1:48:36]: mapping to the establishment. [1:48:39, 1:48:40]: Moving back. [1:48:41, 1:48:43]: Uh and I'm gonna move now to the top of the app. [1:48:44, 1:48:46]: Um and this is uh [1:48:46, 1:48:56]: where your citizens can have access directly to the city. And I'm going to start with services, which is the icon there with the gear. [1:49:00, 1:49:06]: And you can see listed uh the services with the city. This is uh um [1:49:07, 1:49:14]: A relatively full list. So here you can see all your COVID resources, for example, from the city. [1:49:15, 1:49:20]: your city requests, code enforcement, reserving a pavilion, et cetera. [1:49:23, 1:49:37]: Um, and then the uh citizen can also type to search. So if they know specifically what it is they're looking for, they can type in, for example, permits, and it would go to that particular entry in the local government services section. [1:49:40, 1:49:47]: Also, as part of the um upper directory or upper um area of the app is directory. [1:49:47, 1:49:53]: citizens can touch that button and is an there's a listing of [1:49:55, 1:50:02]: your employees. It has a their um title as well as their department. [1:50:03, 1:50:06]: Uh citizens can and I'm just gonna [1:50:06, 1:50:09]: Pick on email here, uh Mr. Aaron. [1:50:09, 1:50:13]: When they touch the little envelope, it automatically opens up their email. [1:50:13, 1:50:16]: Uh to the person listed. [1:50:16, 1:50:21]: They can fill out the information and send an email directly to the city from their phone. [1:50:24, 1:50:29]: Uh they could also call directly from their phone just by pressing the little telephone icon. [1:50:30, 1:50:30]: Um [1:50:31, 1:50:38]: The citizen can use the funnel again if they want, if they know what department, for example, it is that they want to. [1:50:39, 1:50:39]: Uh [1:50:40, 1:50:42]: Reach, they can just select that department. [1:50:42, 1:50:47]: They also have the ability, just like I had showed before, where they can type in the person's name. [1:50:47, 1:50:48]: Uh and [1:50:49, 1:50:53]: Find that person's telephone number and email address. [1:50:54, 1:50:57]: And then last uh [1:50:57, 1:50:59]: The last button is the officials button. [1:51:00, 1:51:06]: When I touch that, here we can see uh Mayor Ford and the council listed here. [1:51:06, 1:51:15]: Uh this particular app also allows for uh messaging from the leadership of the city. [1:51:15, 1:51:17]: Um and all of that can be [1:51:18, 1:51:22]: Published through uh your communications department with Miss Thornton. [1:51:23, 1:51:32]: Um and and everyone is listed here. Uh, and for each of the council, there is their bio. [1:51:35, 1:51:40]: that your citizens can have access to and read about each of the council people and the mayor. [1:51:42, 1:51:50]: So I didn't want to talk too too long. I want to be able to open it up for questions from the folks on the phone. [1:51:51, 1:52:01]: I think it's a fantastic. This is fantastic. This is just game changer for us here in Stockbridge. I tell you, this is this is great. Um I can't wait to download it on my phone. [1:52:02, 1:52:08]: So anyway, something this is. Any questions, Council? I'm I'm pretty sure some of you have some here. [1:52:11, 1:52:12]: Uh Mr. Alexander, go ahead, sir. [1:52:12, 1:52:27]: Yes, I I just wanna say this is like as you said, Mary, this is a truly a great day. Uh it is uh an advancement in technology. You know, in this day where there's people are bombarded with information. [1:52:27, 1:52:29]: We have an opportunity to put the city. [1:52:30, 1:52:31]: Well, folks hang. [1:52:31, 1:52:37]: So, you know, when we post an event just like we had over the weekend, uh like we had our last event. [1:52:38, 1:52:40]: And uh with the police. [1:52:40, 1:52:41]: uh town hall [1:52:42, 1:52:42]: You know [1:52:43, 1:52:45]: Some people got it, some people did it. [1:52:45, 1:52:47]: Everybody that gets the app. [1:52:48, 1:52:56]: Will be able to get a notification on their phone that this is going on. We can move forward. We can actually communicate with them. [1:52:57, 1:53:07]: And if I'm not correct, I believe they can actually watch the events uh on the app if they choose to do so, if the Zoom is in there, sir, or ma'am. [1:53:08, 1:53:16]: Yes, sir. That's absolutely correct. In fact, I am presenting this to you via Zoom. I opened Zoom in my phone. [1:53:16, 1:53:23]: uh from the meeting event uh and then went into the presentation mode. So yes, absolutely. [1:53:23, 1:53:28]: Uh citizens can do it from any device, mo uh Apple or Android. [1:53:29, 1:53:34]: So if let's say like the the uh notifications, tell us how that works. Let's I like [1:53:34, 1:53:39]: in a situation where there's a s an event or something going on to the city, how does that work? [1:53:41, 1:53:43]: So for an event in the city. [1:53:44, 1:53:51]: Uh let me say this. Let's say a a an emergency situation or something going on. Obviously, folks, how does that notification work? [1:53:51, 1:54:11]: Excellent question. So for real what we we call those real-time alerts, and someone within the city would access the portal. Uh and that's what uh Ms. Thornton will use to communicate uh and push information to all the buttons there that you saw there, as well as [1:54:11, 1:54:31]: The alerts function. And literally is just logging in. It can be done from anywhere. The portal, the administrative portal that it will be used by Ms. Thornton and/or other designees. All they need is an internet access. They go in, they log into the portal, they type in whatever. [1:54:31, 1:54:45]: Whatever the issue is, like a street has been closed, or uh, you know, like I said, there's some sort of weather event, they just type that in and literally it's a click of a button. Not only will it go to the app. [1:54:45, 1:54:53]: Uh but that oh yep, no, it will go to the app. I'm sorry, I'm thinking of something else. Actually gets pushed to Facebook and Twitter, but for real-time alerts, it goes just to the app. [1:54:54, 1:54:58]: And it shows up on their phone just like a regular notification if you have those set up. [1:55:00, 1:55:02]: Well, uh Mr. Knighton. [1:55:02, 1:55:02]: All right. [1:55:03, 1:55:08]: We'll talk about the uh the management of the app. I certainly would like uh [1:55:09, 1:55:12]: The clerk to as the official arm of the city. [1:55:12, 1:55:14]: To make sure that she has [1:55:14, 1:55:18]: Everything necessary to be able to manage the platform. [1:55:19, 1:55:22]: Uh as well, since she's the official communication arm. [1:55:22, 1:55:26]: And to be able to when she sends out information, to be able to send it out to everybody. [1:55:27, 1:55:35]: As well. So tell us how that would work in terms of the management of the process. Sure. Uh you know, obviously the public information officer would be the primary contact. [1:55:36, 1:55:45]: Uh for the app, uh, since it fall you know falls within uh that realm. However, of course, there will be collaboration and coordination with all departments. [1:55:45, 1:55:48]: With respect to information or or timely [1:55:48, 1:55:54]: uh uh items that need to be placed on the app. Obviously the city clerk being the uh official keeper of records. [1:55:55, 1:55:58]: Of the city would have a role, a very important role. [1:55:59, 1:56:04]: Ensuring that um all of the necessary uh items pertaining to [1:56:04, 1:56:15]: city functions and or um items pertaining to upcoming events as it relates to city council meetings, work sessions, those types of things uh would certainly be involved uh in all of that. So [1:56:16, 1:56:26]: Um it's it's it's great that uh we have uh uh taken this step to have a city app again. It is one more medium by which people can gather information. [1:56:26, 1:56:32]: receive information and even view information for the city of Stockbridge and so [1:56:32, 1:56:36]: Um with that we'll all as as uh staff members be working [1:56:37, 1:56:42]: uh very diligently to ensure that there's updated information on the app so that our citizens [1:56:42, 1:56:46]: uh can be apprised of uh the important information and events happening in our city. [1:56:48, 1:56:49]: Outstanding. [1:56:49, 1:56:53]: Council, any other comments at all on this app, new app? Anybody else? [1:56:53, 1:56:55]: Mayor Pro Tem Thomas, you look like you're [1:56:56, 1:56:57]: You're unmuted, sir. Do you need something to say, sir? [1:56:58, 1:57:01]: Well, I I'm gonna agree with Councilman Alexander. Um [1:57:02, 1:57:06]: It it appears to be very, very great. Um [1:57:06, 1:57:19]: Technology, you know, puts us ahead of the game, it moves us forward. You know, and that's sort of some of the theme that we've been talking about here tonight. How do we move the City of Stockbridge forward? And I think this. [1:57:19, 1:57:22]: Is is one of those kind of items that's gonna [1:57:22, 1:57:25]: uh technically move us forward so [1:57:25, 1:57:26]: I'm I'm excited. [1:57:27, 1:57:27]: Good deal. [1:57:28, 1:57:29]: Anybody else? [1:57:30, 1:57:33]: If I may add something, sir. Go right here, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:57:34, 1:57:43]: First, uh let me introduce myself to the console. I wanna thank uh my name is Ron Freeman. I'm founder and uh CEO for IT Simple and thank you for Stacey on my team. [1:57:44, 1:58:04]: For running this demonstration. I just wanted to say thank you all. I'm honored, uh, Mr. Knighton and the entire elected body uh for partnering with uh the city of Stockbridge to uh uh you know bring your uh information and uh also consume services. Uh I wanted to wish you all uh I know it's been a [1:58:04, 1:58:11]: Challenging year for all of us. But you guys, I mean, we're not forgetting you guys are uh celebrating your centennial year. [1:58:11, 1:58:31]: And it was quite a challenging year, but I think uh you know uh uh coming onto mobile now would basically bring together businesses, visitors, obviously your constituents, your residents, uh not just with the information, because you guys have a lot of things going, we're following uh, you know, uh a lot of development going on. [1:58:31, 1:58:35]: city of Stockbridge, so we're honored we're honored and humbled. [1:58:35, 1:58:38]: uh to serve you all today and thank you very much for the opportunity. [1:58:39, 1:58:43]: Thank thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Absolutely. Appreciate it. Appreciate you being part of our city. [1:58:44, 1:58:47]: And help us get become even brighter and greater and better. [1:58:47, 1:58:48]: Thank you. [1:58:48, 1:58:50]: The other commerce council at all. [1:58:52, 1:58:53]: All the comments? Okay. [1:58:54, 1:59:01]: Well, Mr. Freeman, thanks a lot, sir. Stacy. I'm sorry, Mel. Let me ask one more question here, real quick. Now, just like uh if I could. [1:59:02, 1:59:06]: Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Uh just like tonight, okay, going forward. [1:59:06, 1:59:09]: Who's going I want to make sure that we got the structure in play. [1:59:09, 1:59:12]: I wanna make sure people can actually use this app to the fullest. [1:59:13, 1:59:14]: Like this council meeting. [1:59:14, 1:59:16]: People can watch it. [1:59:16, 1:59:17]: On the air. [1:59:18, 1:59:21]: So who's going to put that information in there with the Zoom? [1:59:21, 1:59:23]: Before the meeting, cause as we saw. [1:59:24, 1:59:27]: On the app. It was there, but there was no Zoom information. [1:59:30, 1:59:35]: I if I unless I can be corrected, I thought that I did see a Zoom link on there. [1:59:35, 1:59:35]: Yep. [1:59:36, 1:59:37]: Is that correct? [1:59:38, 1:59:46]: There was a Zoom link, but there wasn't a actual link to it. There was the link wasn't in there. It was available for a Zoom link to be put there, but it wasn't there. [1:59:47, 1:59:47]: Okay. [1:59:48, 1:59:53]: Obviously that's one of the tools that we want to ensure is available and will be available. [1:59:53, 1:59:56]: Um for citizens to access. [1:59:57, 2:00:17]: Right. And by definition, mobile, if I may add, uh the beautiful thing on mobile is it mobile interacts with all those third party apps that are already running on the phone. So once uh, you know, a Zoom link will be added, it will automatically open the Zoom app if that person has the Zoom app installed. Uh and he will have the best user experience to watch. [2:00:17, 2:00:23]: of you know the meetings either the meeting live or a recording of the meetings uh you know uh further on. [2:00:25, 2:00:33]: Awesome. Awesome. Good stuff. Great. Anyone else? Any other council members? Any other comments? [2:00:35, 2:00:47]: Okay. I don't see any so if that's the case. Um Mr. Freeman, appreciate you all being here. Miss Stacy. Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much. Uh we'll make a great partnership. This will work very well. [2:00:47, 2:01:03]: Thank you very much to you all. I really appreciate your partnership. I really appreciate the opportunity. And I wish that uh uh you know, the his funny story is every time when I'm thinking about uh next year and I I say I hope that all of us will have a better year, uh well it's a very low bar to beat. [2:01:03, 2:01:04]: He [2:01:05, 2:01:07]: Right. Thank you all. [2:01:07, 2:01:08]: Take care now. Bye bye. [2:01:12, 2:01:32]: All right, folks. Um I'm now into the uh my section for my comments. And uh one of the things that uh we gotta continue to keep in the forefront is the fact that we're still in the middle of a pandemic. And uh the the state is red, the uh the country is in a red state here and and numbers are going up. Matter of fact. [2:01:32, 2:01:52]: Yeah, briefing today with the um with the CEO of Piedmont Henry, there are 88 people in Piedmont Henry that hope co have COVID-19. Various amount of ages and diversity. 88. Okay. So this is very real. Some people out here think it's not real. [2:01:51, 2:01:55]: think that this is a hoax. This is very real. All right. [2:01:55, 2:02:15]: So what we have here, several other things want to mention to you. Of course, we still have the free COVID testing at the Heritage Media Center. You got to make an appointment. So that's 800-847-4262. Once again, 800-847-4262, 1050 Florence McGarrity Parkway. Uh every day. Well, Monday to Friday, it was 10 a.m. [2:02:15, 2:02:16]: Three PM. [2:02:17, 2:02:21]: Now a good news story came out today. Matter of fact, it out of this meeting. [2:02:21, 2:02:41]: And uh imagine that uh the PIO will be getting this information uh that uh the public health department through a contractor will now be will shortly be testing people on Saturdays as well. Okay, Saturdays as well is coming. And I believe it starts this Saturday, but have to reconfirm that, but that once we get that message confirmed, it'll [2:02:41, 2:02:42]: It'd be sitting out there. [2:02:42, 2:03:02]: And come out publicly through the but through our uh PAO. But uh wanna give you a heads up on that. That that is coming. So it'll be available free of charge, of course, and available to citizens uh six days a week is what we're looking for. Now, what is happening uh in the Henry County for the rest of the month, and then we'll have to see how funding goes for. [2:03:02, 2:03:04]: as we're swinging around in 2021. [2:03:05, 2:03:06]: Starting today. [2:03:06, 2:03:10]: Uh the county had a a a mobile testing site. [2:03:10, 2:03:22]: Uh every Monday for the rest of the month. Once again, eventually we'll look and see if we can swing this around to the next calendar year at Hidden Valley Park. Hidden Valley Park on Mondays. Uh that is um [2:03:23, 2:03:36]: nine to three is of understanding hours to be and as 100 spragens memorial parkway and star bridge that's on mondays then a mobile the mobile uh testing site goes on wednesdays to mount carmel uh park [2:03:37, 2:03:42]: uh North Mount Carmel Park, which is three oh seven North uh Mount Carmel Road in Hampton. [2:03:42, 2:03:48]: And then on Wednesdays, the mobile testing site goes on to uh the Warren Holder Park. [2:03:48, 2:04:05]: And that's a 301 Club Drive in Locust Grove. I'm sorry, the times, I'm sorry, the times of 10 minutes, 10 a.m. to 3 p.m., 10 a.m., 3 p.m., each one of those locations. And shortly we'll get to Saturday uh testing at the Heritage Senior Center. [2:04:06, 2:04:26]: And so and the test results were provided through the public health department, no cost, of course, the Henry County, no parcel, no cost to the citizens. And um, and this is a cooperative left effort between the board of commissioners along with the Henry County Board of Health. And there's there's more to follow in reference to different locations potentially as we swing around to the new into the new. [2:04:25, 2:04:45]: year to make it accessible and available for uh citizens to get the test. Now, what's also uh going to be publicized here shortly as well would be the vaccination locations so individuals can get their vaccine. And so that is starting to happen with the deployment of vaccinations. [2:04:45, 2:05:05]: and the vaccines, excuse me, the vaccine to come into our state. And of course there's a priority list to that. And the priority list primarily starts with uh the the the healthcare workers, the nurses, first responders, and of course people uh that are in the senior citizen homes and things of this nature. And so individuals like uh like us that I'm looking at right now. [2:05:05, 2:05:25]: directly that are fairly healthy, right? We may have to wait till at least April before we get a shot, provided that you want to take a shot. And I would assume that you probably would. But uh we'll we'll continue to work through that process as uh as uh things go on. And so uh more to follow on on those locations logistically and getting this taken care of and getting [2:05:25, 2:05:45]: the citizens that want to take a vaccination will be able to do so. So that's that is going to start happening. And it'll be but we'll put out info more information through the through our social media about that for the citizens of Star Operation. Of course you'll be hearing a lot of things in the news, national news as well as local news for the state. Today started [2:05:45, 2:06:03]: early voting. Early voting started today. All right. So hopefully everybody's registered to vote and you need to uh uh follow your constitutional right and go uh and go vote and in henry county there are six polling places that you can go to to early vote six all right let's talk about that [2:06:03, 2:06:08]: uh Merle Manor's Conference Center, 111 Davis right here stop bridge. [2:06:08, 2:06:19]: You have the Fairview Recreational Center at 35 Austin Road and Stockbridge, JP Mosley Recreational Center, 1041 Miller's Mill Road and Stockbridge. [2:06:20, 2:06:26]: Then you have the election and voters registration main office, 40 Atlanta Street, McDonough, Georgia. [2:06:26, 2:06:38]: Then you're gonna you have it you can go to Locust Grove Library, 115 MLK Junior Boulevard in Locust Grove there. And then the Forest and Hampton Library, 61 Madonna Street in Hampton. [2:06:38, 2:06:39]: Now [2:06:39, 2:06:43]: For the actual early voting, here are the hours this week. [2:06:44, 2:06:48]: Monday to Friday for all six locations this week, Monday to Friday. [2:06:48, 2:06:50]: It will be eight AM to five PM. [2:06:51, 2:06:55]: Saturday this Saturday the nineteenth, nine a.m. to four p.m. [2:06:56, 2:06:57]: Sunday the twentieth. [2:06:58, 2:07:18]: 1 p.m. to 5 p.m. Then the following week, which will be the 21st to 23rd, Monday through Wednesday, 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. And then also the 28th through the 30th of December. And 30 of December will be the last day for early voting on any one of these six locations, 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. [2:07:18, 2:07:33]: And of course the election itself is on January 5th. Now, what's up for the election? Of course you got the two Senate runoffs, which will get national attention, international type of attention. Georgia's in limelight here. [2:07:34, 2:07:52]: So you have the um incumbent, uh David Purdue as opponent, John Ossoff as a Democrat. You have the independent, uh excuse me, the Republican or incumbent, I'm sorry, Republican Kelly Leffler and her opposition or opposer at Raphael Warnott. All right, you need to use your constitutional right to go vote. [2:07:52, 2:08:12]: And then for if you didn't know, there's also a public service commission district four, public service commission district four. And you have the incumbent there, a guy named Lauren Buddy uh Bubba McDonald Jr., that's the incumbent. He's a Republican, and Daniel Blackman, who is his opp his opponent, um, is also running as uh there as well. So those three. [2:08:12, 2:08:19]: three races or on the on the actual ballot for you to go and um vote. [2:08:20, 2:08:30]: And I wanna if you haven't heard, you may have heard this, but we found out also today the Electoral College has confirmed the fact that Joe Biden is the next president. [2:08:30, 2:08:35]: And the next vice president is Kamala Harris. All right. Congratulations to our new leadership on the national level. [2:08:36, 2:08:38]: The the electoral college did their job. [2:08:38, 2:08:40]: All right. So [2:08:40, 2:08:43]: And that is great stuff in that aspect. [2:08:44, 2:08:45]: Meetings. [2:08:46, 2:09:06]: The Downtown Development Authority meeting is uh Tuesday, December 15th, 6 p.m. via Zoom. And they have their meetings on third Tuesday each month. Youth Council Advisory meeting is Tuesday, December, uh, well, it's actually uh December 15th, which is tomorrow, right? 630. It's also third Tuesday of each month. [2:09:06, 2:09:26]: Council meeting is Wednesday, December 16th, 630, third Tuesday of each month. I says third Tuesday, but the 16th is a Wednesday. But anyway, it would let me back up. Youth Council meeting, Wednesday, December 16th, 6:30. Period. Planning Commission meeting, Thursday, December 17th, 6:30. City Council works. [2:09:26, 2:09:27]: Session. [2:09:27, 2:09:30]: We're gonna have one December twenty second at six p.m. [2:09:30, 2:09:41]: Uh the Main Street Advisory Board meeting is Friday, January 8th. And uh the our next city council meeting for the new year, fiscal year is Monday, January 11th, 6 p.m. [2:09:42, 2:09:52]: Uh, Councilwoman Yolanda Barber, this on Saturday, January 9th is going to have a um blood drive, community blood drive, community blood drive at 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. at Test Strickland Community Center. [2:09:53, 2:09:59]: And uh if you need any more information, you can call Zenovia Peterson at four oh four. [2:09:59, 2:10:09]: Five six five five one zero nine. We have upcoming public hearing, rezoning case number RZ two zero two zero-two. [2:10:09, 2:10:21]: And a public hearing for a zoning modification case number ZM-2020-01 that will be heard for the council before the council on January 11th at 6 p.m. [2:10:22, 2:10:34]: All the city offices will be closed Thursday, December 24th, and Friday, December 25th, of course, observance of Christmas holiday. And the city offices will also be closed on January 1st and observance of uh the new year. [2:10:35, 2:10:43]: So on that note, happy, happy holidays, everybody, and happy new year uh to you. But we'll probably see you on the 26th. Yes, uh Miss Holiday. [2:10:44, 2:10:44]: It's holiday. [2:10:47, 2:11:03]: Mayor Ford, I just wanted to clarify on the elections on the Saturday and Sunday, the 19th and the 20th. Yes. The only locations will be the Henry County Elections Office and the Merrill Manders Conference Center. [2:11:03, 2:11:06]: The other locations don't have Saturday and Sunday voting. [2:11:06, 2:11:17]: Well, okay. I I'll take you for you face value, but I have a s some information here. It was sent to me in the mail that says they do, but okay. I I I I'm reading off of some uh information that was sent to my home. [2:11:17, 2:11:20]: But okay, I got you. Thank you for the clarification. [2:11:21, 2:11:27]: Okay. And that and yeah, actually Merlmann is great for Merlmann's. Good people and stoppers can come to Merlmann's no problem. But thank you very much. [2:11:28, 2:11:32]: All right. All right. On that note, folks, I need a motion to adjourn our meeting. [2:11:33, 2:11:34]: Mayor. So move. [2:11:35, 2:11:40]: Yeah yes, okay, you made a slow move. Is it a second Mr Mayor Botan? [2:11:40, 2:11:49]: No, I I before the so move I had my hand up. I wanted to recognize sir. What sign my well I I just want to take this opportunity to um [2:11:49, 2:11:51]: Mr. Knight and his staff. [2:11:51, 2:11:54]: The event staff, Mrs. Thomas. [2:11:55, 2:11:58]: Uh for putting together the great, great [2:11:58, 2:12:01]: Christmas program the other night. I thought it was fantastic. [2:12:02, 2:12:05]: And I just wanted to just say uh kudos, uh a job well done. [2:12:06, 2:12:19]: Okay, fantastic. That's fine. Do that myself. Start singing along as well. All right. Um a motion to adjourn. And I believe uh Councilman Ganttz says so moved. That Councilman Blount second that. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:12:20, 2:12:22]: Um discussion. [2:12:22, 2:12:28]: Are we not? No, there's no zygote session tonight. No, there's no exaggeration tonight. Awesome. Okay. [2:12:28, 2:12:30]: Okay, all favor motion please indicate. [2:12:30, 2:12:31]: All right. [2:12:32, 2:12:33]: Mr. Blood. [2:12:33, 2:12:37]: You voting, sir? Yeah. Okay, affirmative. Okay, we're we are now adjourned. [2:12:38, 2:12:42]: Yes, everybody, it's your nails. Good night, everybody. Thank you. Good night.