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--- title: Council Retreat Day 3 date: 2021-03-19 source: 2021-03-19_Council_Retreat_Day_3.wav --- [0:00:10, 0:00:13]: So our webinar is now live at this point in recording. [0:00:16, 0:00:18]: Said no Facebook now. [0:01:24, 0:01:27]: And we're now streaming live on Facebook, ladies and gentlemen. [0:02:21, 0:02:27]: And morning Jeremy and uh Mercury. Morning to you. Morning. [0:02:29, 0:02:31]: I'll be on video in a little bit. [0:02:31, 0:02:32]: Good morning. [0:02:32, 0:02:33]: All right. [0:02:37, 0:02:38]: Morning Quinn. How you doing, sir? [0:02:40, 0:02:43]: Doing well. How are you? All right. [0:02:44, 0:02:45]: Okay. [0:02:57, 0:02:59]: Okay, remember he switched? [0:03:24, 0:03:25]: Oh, Miss Holiday. [0:03:30, 0:03:36]: There's a updated there's an updated resolution that I was going to there's an updated res an amended. [0:03:36, 0:03:39]: Or some we made some typographical changes to [0:03:39, 0:03:44]: the um an amended resolution for the mayor to sign. So I was gonna send that to you this morning. [0:03:44, 0:03:49]: And then I know I've got to sign some documents with Michael as well. And so we're going to coordinate that. So [0:03:49, 0:03:54]: Just letting you all know if you if I pop off it's'cause we got documents we've got to get out today. [0:03:55, 0:04:08]: All right, now that you said that, I guess I need to go to City Hall today and sign some documents that makes me think. Possibly, but you may need to go on Monday because that was one of the things that Mr. Nine was gonna talk about. You may have to have [0:04:08, 0:04:10]: Council meet as the URA. [0:04:10, 0:04:18]: to and then do a special call on that one to transfer uh track the property for the amphitheater. [0:04:18, 0:04:23]: Okay. Well you we're live right now too, sir, by the way. So you know we're being recorded so you know that. Yeah. [0:04:24, 0:04:27]: All right. So be it. We'll make sure we put out the appropriate notice for that. [0:04:27, 0:04:28]: All right, sure. [0:04:29, 0:04:36]: Okay, okay, I think we have a quorum now because Councilman Thomas, I see him, and Councilwoman Barber. [0:04:37, 0:04:38]: Okay. [0:04:38, 0:04:40]: So we're all online. [0:04:40, 0:04:44]: On that note I have a nine oh two. [0:04:45, 0:04:51]: So I'm gonna call our meeting to order 902. This is our council retreat day three in March 19th. [0:04:51, 0:04:57]: And uh I'd like to ask uh Councilman Blount if he'd give the invocation, please. [0:04:58, 0:04:59]: Yes, sir, ma'am. [0:05:00, 0:05:06]: Dear Heavenly Gracious Father, we come to you this morning. Thank you, Lord, first of all, for your grace and we thank you for your mercy. [0:05:07, 0:05:13]: We ask that you would be a part of this meeting today, Heavenly Father. Meet us at the point of our needs for the city of Stockbridge, Heavenly Father. [0:05:14, 0:05:20]: And continue to guide us, continue to order our steps that we would move and be about the citizens' business. [0:05:20, 0:05:24]: We thank you for staff and those have that have participated in this retreat. [0:05:25, 0:05:29]: That our minds are clear and our hearts are are clear that we're moving this city forward. [0:05:30, 0:05:35]: We thank you, Heavenly Father, for the citizens that you will continue to keep them safe during the midst of this pandemic. [0:05:35, 0:05:38]: That you fulfill and meet them at the point of their needs. [0:05:38, 0:05:41]: We thank you for all that you're doing. We thank you for everyone that are [0:05:42, 0:05:44]: That are on this call right now today. [0:05:44, 0:05:49]: That we are all doing everything that would glorify you. It's in Jesus' name that we pray. Amen. [0:05:50, 0:05:51]: They matter. [0:05:52, 0:05:55]: All right, uh stand if we can for the pledge. [0:05:57, 0:06:06]: I pledge allegiance to the flag, the United States of America, or Heslas, wrong. [0:06:11, 0:06:12]: Amen. [0:06:18, 0:06:20]: Excuse me. Uh roll call, please. [0:06:24, 0:06:25]: You muted Vanessa. [0:06:29, 0:06:30]: Romeo Ford. [0:06:30, 0:06:31]: Present. [0:06:31, 0:06:33]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:06:33, 0:06:34]: Present. [0:06:34, 0:06:36]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:06:36, 0:06:36]: I see. [0:06:44, 0:06:45]: Pracy. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: Councilman Blount. [0:06:48, 0:06:48]: Present. [0:06:49, 0:06:50]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:06:51, 0:06:51]: Where is it? [0:06:52, 0:06:53]: Councilman Thomas. [0:06:54, 0:06:54]: President. [0:06:55, 0:06:56]: Mayor Ford, do you have a quorum? [0:06:56, 0:06:58]: Thank you, appreciate that. Um [0:06:59, 0:07:06]: For the day three agenda, um uh city manager, will you give a recap of day two before we go into day three, please? [0:07:21, 0:07:30]: All right. There we go. Yes, sir, Mayor Ford. We will provide the recap as necessary for [0:07:31, 0:07:32]: The [0:07:33, 0:07:34]: Second day. [0:07:34, 0:07:37]: Obviously, yesterday was uh I think very productive. [0:07:38, 0:07:42]: For all of us and certainly appreciate all of the council. [0:07:42, 0:07:44]: input which helped to direct [0:07:45, 0:07:48]: Uh some thoughts and some items forward. [0:07:48, 0:07:50]: Um briefly I would recap. [0:07:50, 0:07:51]: Um [0:07:52, 0:07:53]: Day two is this. [0:07:54, 0:07:56]: Um the [0:07:57, 0:07:59]: H. A. Russell, Kurt Vocal. [0:07:59, 0:08:07]: And Shirag uh Verksen came and provided an update on the amphitheater project, as uh many of you know and have been able to. [0:08:07, 0:08:13]: Um have been able to tour the amphitheater pro property. You know that it's been progressing well. [0:08:14, 0:08:19]: Um there was uh a conversation with respect to a couple of things. One [0:08:20, 0:08:25]: Um with respect to an additional sidewalk on the main internal road of the amphitheater. [0:08:25, 0:08:28]: Um, secondly about the type of [0:08:28, 0:08:33]: uh buffer and or barrier or fencing that would be along the back property line. [0:08:33, 0:08:37]: along uh the the properties that back up from Bryant Street. [0:08:38, 0:08:40]: uh to the amphitheatre property. [0:08:41, 0:08:54]: Um, they also, of course, uh discussed uh the ponds that are in play, the walking trails, the promenade area, um, and uh additional items as it relates to the amphitheater. [0:08:54, 0:09:14]: uh progress and of course showed videos and photos of the various components of the amphitheater. Next we had a discussion with uh Chief Grogan, a City of Dunwoody police chief, who gave us his experience, excuse me, his experience on starting a police department and developing one in the city of Dunwoody. [0:09:15, 0:09:22]: Back in the 2009 uh period, there were a number of things that he mentioned as recommendations and things that we should uh be [0:09:23, 0:09:28]: aware and conscious of as we move forward with the development of police department including [0:09:28, 0:09:32]: Um hiring command staff, uh, training, policy development. [0:09:32, 0:09:38]: Um vehicle acquisition was something that he emphasized doing that as soon as possible. [0:09:38, 0:09:43]: He also mentioned uh things such as um [0:09:44, 0:09:50]: Things that we could do to attract good quality uh talent, police officers, hiring bonuses, take home cars. [0:09:50, 0:09:54]: housing stipends things of that n those natures. And he also talked about [0:09:54, 0:10:01]: The military in the city of Dunwoody that was believed developed in uh enabling legislation when the city became [0:10:01, 0:10:02]: uh incorporated. [0:10:03, 0:10:10]: Uh other things that were mentioned was hiring matrix, mental health testing, camera readers. [0:10:10, 0:10:12]: Uh in those items as well. [0:10:12, 0:10:26]: Um we mentioned and then had discussion surrounding annexation, uh, showed a couple of different options potentially for annexed areas in and around the city. I think there was general consensus about [0:10:26, 0:10:27]: Uh [0:10:28, 0:10:30]: The annexing the whole areas option one. [0:10:31, 0:10:35]: And but also wanting to have c necessary conversation. [0:10:35, 0:10:39]: With citizens, property owners in those uh areas. [0:10:39, 0:10:44]: And also perhaps uh being able to develop some type of analysis. [0:10:44, 0:10:51]: um of the amount of commercial versus residential properties uh in those that section. [0:10:52, 0:10:59]: In addition, then we had a conversation with Falcon Design, uh discussed the amphitheater parking um [0:10:59, 0:11:01]: Сценариось і [0:11:01, 0:11:04]: Um we discussed the rides here. [0:11:04, 0:11:04]: Um [0:11:05, 0:11:07]: Locations and a couple of options were [0:11:08, 0:11:12]: Discussed and then it was uh determined that uh the municipal court. [0:11:13, 0:11:14]: parking area. [0:11:15, 0:11:17]: Що би экспідвли южфорши. [0:11:18, 0:11:21]: Um we also discussed um the [0:11:22, 0:11:30]: um Lee Street and East Atlanta Road uh projects and those are moving along uh at a very good clip. [0:11:30, 0:11:35]: We should be should receive all of the documents that would be needed for. [0:11:35, 0:11:37]: Um, placing it out on bid next week. [0:11:38, 0:11:44]: Um we also uh discussed again um the sidewalk on the main internal road. [0:11:46, 0:11:54]: And we discussed the um black mast arms for the um traffic signals on East Atlanta. [0:11:55, 0:11:56]: MD Street. [0:11:56, 0:12:01]: Uh, there were a couple of additional things that were mentioned with respect to [0:12:01, 0:12:03]: Um Falcon's discussion. [0:12:04, 0:12:14]: In particular, an area of about three acres on Lee Street that could be potentially used for additional parking spaces, which they're going to provide me with their concept plan that they've developed. [0:12:14, 0:12:17]: Also looking at the extension from [0:12:18, 0:12:23]: That point where the internal road comes into Lee Street, that point forward up to Bryant Street. [0:12:24, 0:12:29]: um for uh additional uh landscaping under sidewalks up to Bryant Street. [0:12:30, 0:12:33]: We also briefly discussed their wayfinding signage. [0:12:33, 0:12:39]: Um that they are completing design and and we'll be able to work off for cost estimates. [0:12:39, 0:12:45]: Um the alleyway item should be ready in about four weeks to be put out or in a position to be put out. [0:12:45, 0:12:46]: Um forbid. [0:12:47, 0:12:54]: Um and uh I think that uh pretty well captured uh Falcon Design's presentation to us. [0:12:54, 0:12:57]: Then we had a discussion the latter part of the day. [0:12:57, 0:13:03]: Regarding uh procurement um policies and items. Um Mr. Burr led that discussion. [0:13:03, 0:13:10]: Um and um presented that item and I think the general consensus of the [0:13:11, 0:13:12]: Um council was to [0:13:13, 0:13:15]: uh ensure that um [0:13:15, 0:13:21]: Um we continue to evaluate and continue to make improvements, efficiencies wherever. [0:13:21, 0:13:22]: Is needed. [0:13:22, 0:13:33]: Um the vendor database numbers were requested. We're working on getting um the count for those numbers for those businesses that were grandfathered interplaced into the system initially. [0:13:33, 0:13:36]: Um versus those who have joined since then. [0:13:36, 0:13:38]: with the NIGB code. [0:13:39, 0:13:47]: And I think uh mayor, I think that that uh pretty well captures uh the essence of our discussions for yesterday. [0:13:47, 0:13:49]: All right, sir. I appreciate that. Thank you. [0:13:50, 0:13:55]: On that note, then we'll move on in our on our agenda for architectural projects update. Um [0:13:55, 0:13:59]: from uh tunnels banger and welch and this Heather Hubble. [0:13:59, 0:14:15]: and uh her assistant or co-partners and on to give us a briefing today. Mr. Knight, do you need to say anything before she gives her briefing? Yes, yes I would. And I I would look forward to uh this discussion today. I think um there are a number of things that will be revealed that'll be very helpful. [0:14:15, 0:14:21]: And um uh very enlightening uh for other projects that we're working on. [0:14:21, 0:14:27]: As you know, TSW is our our architect, uh city architect, and we've been working on a number of projects for us. [0:14:28, 0:14:29]: In particular today. [0:14:30, 0:14:33]: We want to focus on um two things. One [0:14:33, 0:14:38]: Is the amphitheatre uh project itself and uh their involvement there. [0:14:39, 0:14:43]: And in particular, we're going to discuss an option for a splash pad. [0:14:44, 0:14:45]: Um at the empathy. [0:14:46, 0:14:50]: This is something that has been discussed before and has been mentioned before in different contexts. [0:14:51, 0:14:53]: Then also with uh the amphitheater. [0:14:54, 0:15:01]: If if in fact the council wants to earnestly consider a splash pad at the amphitheater, we've got to have this discussion now. [0:15:01, 0:15:05]: And um look at the options that may avail themselves. [0:15:06, 0:15:07]: Not to you. [0:15:07, 0:15:08]: Of of [0:15:09, 0:15:12]: Creating more opportunity for citizen. [0:15:13, 0:15:16]: Рекрещен і лежі аттіамфіатр. [0:15:17, 0:15:18]: property. [0:15:18, 0:15:21]: And so Miss Hubble will lead us in the discussion of uh [0:15:22, 0:15:25]: Of options that could exist for a splash pad again. [0:15:26, 0:15:30]: I think it's it's our responsible job to bring this to you now. [0:15:31, 0:15:36]: Um, in terms of where we are with the amphitheater, because if it's something that is going to be considered, we do need to have [0:15:37, 0:15:40]: some level of of direction with respect to it. [0:15:40, 0:15:43]: Second thing is primarily the cultural arts center. [0:15:44, 0:15:45]: Of course the council uh [0:15:46, 0:15:49]: A couple months ago committed to um [0:15:50, 0:15:52]: Fourteen milyen dollars for the Cultural Arts Center. [0:15:53, 0:15:58]: And based on previous iterations of the Cultural Arts Center, we had some cost estimates associated. [0:15:58, 0:15:59]: Um with it. [0:16:00, 0:16:08]: And in order to make sure that we are compliant with the council's desire of a fourteen million dollar facility. [0:16:08, 0:16:10]: fourteen million dollar turnkey. [0:16:11, 0:16:12]: Facility. [0:16:12, 0:16:15]: We want to make sure that we have conversation about. [0:16:16, 0:16:20]: What uh may need to be uh reduced or minimized or modified. [0:16:21, 0:16:25]: from some of the previous iterations that we had for the cultural arts. [0:16:25, 0:16:31]: And so uh Ms. Hubble is going to lead uh that discussion with several different options or items. [0:16:32, 0:16:37]: for you all to consider as it relates uh overall to um cultural arts center. [0:16:38, 0:16:45]: And um and and again we just want to make sure that um at this point uh we have some direction. [0:16:46, 0:16:47]: To go on these projects. [0:16:48, 0:16:51]: I would mention again uh from the outset that you know [0:16:52, 0:16:56]: The city obviously, as you know, um we are [0:16:56, 0:17:00]: Um, on the verge of really uh being able to [0:17:02, 0:17:08]: make some moves forward that have really been unprecedented in the city in terms of the civic projects that are on the horizon. [0:17:08, 0:17:12]: The police department and so forth. So as we continue to. [0:17:13, 0:17:23]: um make sure that we're functioning at the highest level and that we are addressing these matters in the most um efficient and cost um efficient manner. [0:17:24, 0:17:29]: That we have these conversations and that we're able to come to some level of understanding. [0:17:29, 0:17:40]: uh and determination. All right. Um so with that I will turn it over uh to Ms. Hubble and um we she will lead our discussion. [0:17:42, 0:17:43]: Good morning. [0:17:43, 0:17:44]: Morning. [0:17:44, 0:17:46]: Thank you for having us this morning. [0:17:46, 0:17:50]: Um, I do have Brian Bays with me. He's the other Heather Hubble on the phone. [0:17:50, 0:17:55]: Um and I think uh the last one is that Peyton Brian. Peyton, are you on the phone too? [0:17:57, 0:17:58]: Hey Heather, I'm on. [0:17:59, 0:17:59]: Great. [0:18:01, 0:18:03]: All right, I'm gonna share my screen. [0:18:15, 0:18:26]: Um so you know, I know we've worked together for a couple of years and I just want to iterate our gratefulness uh for being able to work with you and the pleasure it's been. Um I do understand that [0:18:27, 0:18:34]: Um you toured the amphitheater, I think, last Friday. Um I hope that went well. I hope you liked what you saw. [0:18:34, 0:18:38]: Um are there items specifically besides the splash pad that uh [0:18:39, 0:18:43]: need time for discussion or questions before we move on to the splash pad. [0:18:45, 0:18:51]: I I don't know of any at this point, I know I don't have any. I don't know if there's anybody from the council had any additional thoughts right now after their [0:18:52, 0:18:53]: Actual uh [0:18:53, 0:18:59]: concerns after actual in uh walkthrough. Um anybody at all uh right now [0:19:02, 0:19:08]: I I guess not this time. I guess you can go forward. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I didn't see you. Go ahead, Mayor Pro Tem. [0:19:09, 0:19:14]: I just want to thank uh Heather and T SW. They you know they are a preeminent firm. [0:19:14, 0:19:33]: uh in in in metro atlanta and the world because what they put together for us in terms of this amphitheater is is earth shattering it's magnificent it is the edifice of our dreams uh for our city and it will truly they're truly helping us to create [0:19:34, 0:19:41]: the vision that this council had uh to move the city forward and the community, you will be spellbound by. [0:19:41, 0:19:43]: The presentation today of the amphitheater. [0:19:44, 0:19:46]: The Kieran Mayhem Recultural Arts Center. [0:19:46, 0:19:47]: And the [0:19:47, 0:19:49]: future coming of the [0:19:50, 0:19:58]: Uh, Youth and Senior Recreational Center. There's been much talk in the community about well, what's what's going on with the Rec Center? Today you will see. [0:19:58, 0:20:18]: uh the renderings uh of uh our potential design uh for that facility. We've cleared the board of many other projects and hopefully we'll be able to move forward with this project uh with some exciting conversations uh next week between some organizations interested in to the city. So thank you all to TSW [0:20:18, 0:20:19]: Love you for [0:20:19, 0:20:23]: Doing what you do and bringing your magic to stop bridge. [0:20:24, 0:20:27]: Sure, our pleasure. Uh and I [0:20:27, 0:20:38]: Um, I'm glad that y'all walked through. I think there's uh a unique feel as you're walking through that facility and it's gonna create just a wonderful atmosphere for these outside events. [0:20:38, 0:20:49]: Um, I'm going to uh turn it over to Brian Bays, and he's gonna walk you through a couple of options for how a splash pad can be incorporated uh into the amphitheater. [0:20:49, 0:20:51]: the areas around the amphitheater. [0:20:52, 0:20:52]: Good morning. [0:20:54, 0:20:54]: Morning to you. [0:20:55, 0:21:00]: Um I just wanted uh just just really quickly talk a little bit about [0:21:01, 0:21:08]: about uh the two kind of locations that we looked at for the amphitheater or for the uh splash pad, which really is just uh [0:21:09, 0:21:29]: It's just another piece of this entire complex that uh that that you all are are putting together. And um we looked at an option that's uh north uh by the by the new parking lot that's being built, kind of overlooking that new park and pond complex. [0:21:29, 0:21:35]: And then we looked at also the option in that kind of central green area just in front of the amphitheater. [0:21:36, 0:21:38]: And I want to stress that uh [0:21:39, 0:21:48]: You know, we're in the early stages of ideas. We throw some ideas out there, but really the critical path item right now. [0:21:48, 0:22:06]: is picking a location. We can work through the design issues if y'all want decide you want to build uh this interactive water feature. Um so don't get too hung up on what it looks like. Uh the critical path is the location because that impacts potentially [0:22:06, 0:22:22]: um uh the construction that's currently ongoing. And we need uh if you decide to do it, especially in option one, uh, because that work is literally underway right now and they're getting ready to do some wall footings. Um [0:22:22, 0:22:40]: uh we'll need to get some things in place before they do that to avoid having to go back and tear things up that that y'all just spent money on. So just a just a little kind of just a little kind of intro that and I can I can uh answer any questions about that specifically, but why don't we flip to the next uh page. So [0:22:42, 0:22:49]: Option one, and this is that area that's adjacent to the the new parking lot that's being built. [0:22:50, 0:23:10]: Uh is really kind of uh stepped into the hillside. There's a hillside, the parking lot's on a hillside, it steps down and looks over the new kind of pond with the water fountain and then the the rest of the ponds uh as they chain down the hillside. And um there are already some walls there, uh or there are gonna be some walls. [0:23:10, 0:23:30]: Walls that are there as part of the current design. And what we're trying to do is really take advantage of those walls and integrate, you know, some spilling water features and also some kind of spray heads into those, and then maybe some boulders for kids to climb around on. It's a really subtle water feature, but I do think. [0:23:30, 0:23:50]: I think one of the things that that we hope to achieve with this location is this kind of layering of use from the road. As you look over the pond, you see at the top of the hill this kind of the active nature of this water feature and you know water kind of cascading down that uh upper wall. [0:23:50, 0:24:06]: into the lower area. It's very convenient. It's accessible. You can see to the left hand side. There's accessible parking right there. There's actually a plaza just to the right of that too that people could hang out and watch the activity at the fountain. [0:24:08, 0:24:22]: Um and uh I think that uh I think this is a a good location. So one of the one of the major constraints and just kind of backing up a little bit, um there are a couple different kinds of uh these [0:24:22, 0:24:28]: these uh interactive water features you can do but uh the the the key thing is [0:24:28, 0:24:48]: It's essentially like a pool. It's people in water, and you you can do one type that recirculates the water, and you can do one type where you just actually put the water into the storm or the uh sanitary sewer and don't recycle it. Obviously, the first option uh is more complicated as far [0:24:48, 0:25:08]: as the uh interworking and mechanicals go and you have to sanitize the water to reuse it it's a lot more like a pool the second option you bypass all that but you're spending a lot more money on water uh and other things like that and i can i can talk a little bit more about that but i wanted to just kind of just prime that because this local [0:25:08, 0:25:16]: Location in particular really only has the option to do the second one, which is a flow through, and that would not recirculate the water. [0:25:16, 0:25:21]: Um and and I think the key aspect of that is that. [0:25:21, 0:25:38]: The recirculating water, uh, interactive water feature has to have a restroom associated with it. And there's not a location out here to do a restroom that and and it's too far uh from the proposed ticket building and other restrooms for it to be viable. I think it's gotta be within 150 feet. [0:25:39, 0:25:40]: Of a restroom. [0:25:40, 0:25:42]: Um so [0:25:43, 0:25:56]: So let's click option two now because this op this option two does have a restroom. Um you can see down there, it's actually got a restroom and a little vending area. And we've we've actually closed off that. [0:25:56, 0:26:16]: uh road right adjacent to city hall to create a kind of plaza area where you can do food trucks or or other things uh to kind of help activate this space and have a launching point for people going into the space. The the concept here that um that we came up with is this kind of mini landing [0:26:16, 0:26:36]: Landscape that replicates some of the features, some of the local features in the county and near the city. Like I said, you know, this is one idea. There could be multiple, there could be multiple ideas if we uh if y'all decide to choose this location, but there's like a a kind of stream. [0:26:36, 0:26:42]: You can see the kind of topographic Alexander Lake. [0:26:42, 0:26:52]: uh piece there that uh could also have spray heads in it as well. And I think um one unique aspect of this because it's closer to the um [0:26:52, 0:27:12]: Because it's closer to City Hall and kind of the center of gravity of the amphitheater is the opportunity to do a pedestrian market there. You could do a small farmers market or art markets or just about anything uh that was outdoor uh up in that little kind of road that that we've closed off. And that can spill up. [0:27:12, 0:27:14]: Over into the larger [0:27:14, 0:27:34]: um amphitheater complex. So in this location, just because we have really good access to sewer uh and uh storm water and water, um you know it really lends itself to adding a small restroom and vending uh building. Uh you could also do the flow through uh version [0:27:34, 0:27:46]: of the water feature here as well uh and and uh forego building that that building uh you just have to deal with uh you know the trade-offs of doing that um [0:27:48, 0:28:08]: Uh and I didn't really talk about it on the last one, but I guess uh one of the one of the really great things about this location is that um this this splash pad and interactive water feature can be active during a concert and you can actually see into uh the venue, which is you know one of the kind of key uh one of the kind of key drivers of [0:28:08, 0:28:28]: That venue is just kind of having these perforated edges that help activate everything around it and create this kind of festive atmosphere. You're giving away free peeks of the show. Um, but I think uh it also kind of helps create a sense of community and gathering for folks to kind of be part of the action, even if they're not uh [0:28:27, 0:28:47]: uh you know uh inside the inside the gate. So I think this is really this location especially is really connected best to that venue. But the other the other location does have these as well. They're just kind of different. Um let's just flip the last slide. I already talked about this a little bit but just just so you [0:28:47, 0:28:50]: you know the recirculating system [0:28:51, 0:28:54]: Uses a municipal municipal water source. [0:28:55, 0:29:15]: The water comes to the splash pad, uh, goes to through a treatment system and a holding tank and then recirculates back around. I mentioned it's a lot like a pool. You don't have to have a fence around it uh because there's no actual standing water. Uh, but it does have all the things that a pool does. You have to have chemical storage. [0:29:15, 0:29:35]: Uh somebody has to come by, you know, on a regular basis and check the pH of the water uh to make sure that there's safe operating systems. Uh and then obviously more mechanicals means more maintenance and uh more stuff that that you have to keep up with and a little bit higher level of expertise for whoever [0:29:35, 0:29:39]: is charged with kind of maintaining that system. [0:29:39, 0:29:59]: the flow through system uh uses human the municipal water source the water goes directly to the splash pad and then um uh one thing that we that we really recommend is that we try and capture a good bit of that water in a cistern and use it for irrigation so we're at least getting two uses out of it. [0:29:59, 0:30:00]: Mm. [0:30:00, 0:30:20]: Um, and then that water will actually go, uh the water you used for irrigation will actually go back into the water table. Any excess or overflow wastewater beyond what's needed for irrigation uh would then just go into the sanitary sewer. Um I guess the other benefit of using the water for irrigation is we're not. [0:30:20, 0:30:23]: uh overloading your sanitary serum because uh these [0:30:24, 0:30:35]: Yeah, these uh these interactive water features can generate, you know, anywhere between 150 to 350 gallons of water uh per hour. [0:30:35, 0:30:37]: Um of uh of [0:30:38, 0:30:55]: of water so it's it can be really large volume of water because we have all kinds of strategies for minimizing that creating zones that are activated so the water's not running all the time but um you know if if y'all move forward this we can work through kind of strategies to mitigate some of those [0:30:55, 0:30:58]: uh in max. So that's kind of the quick primer. [0:30:58, 0:31:18]: Um I guess uh does anybody have any questions or comments about the locations? Yeah, I actually I'll start this. Yeah, I do. I just want clarification about the uh uh the two systems, the recirculation system and flow through system. Now the the option that is right next to City Hall, that was option two. [0:31:19, 0:31:28]: That's right. Okay. And so that option would be like a a pool. And most of us live in in a community that has a pool. Right. And um [0:31:29, 0:31:46]: Of course, you have to have a uh um a maintenance or a pool maintenance type of company that would you know keep it at the right levels, like I think the pH levels or things of that nature for that pool. Now and I'm thinking that you're telling me in reference or telling us in reference to the water itself, um [0:31:46, 0:31:53]: Now for the recirculation that is more economical than the flow through. Is is that correct in a sense? [0:31:54, 0:32:14]: Um well there's so for recirculation. So just for quantity of water use, the answer is yes. Um you will not use as much water for the recirculation, but there's a there's a much higher upfront capital cost and as you know, as you mentioned, there's more maintenance cost, I think. [0:32:14, 0:32:18]: more regular maintenance costs because you have to have someone service it very regularly. [0:32:19, 0:32:39]: All right. And then but the flow through process cannot be used at the the actual option two, which is next to City Hall. That that is it can't we can use flow through at either of these locations. Okay. Option two just has a better we we feel like it's a more reasonable area to use a recirculation because we [0:32:39, 0:32:42]: We have better access for restrooms. That's kind of the key driver there. [0:32:44, 0:32:49]: All right. Thank you. Appreciate it. That's all I have for right now. And Mayor Pro Tem, I think you had your hand up there. [0:32:50, 0:32:51]: Go ahead, sir. [0:32:52, 0:32:55]: Yes. Oh my shit, I got yo, can you hear me? [0:32:55, 0:32:56]: Yeah, we got to go ahead. [0:32:56, 0:32:59]: Yeah, I just want to make sure my computer's been acting up a little bit. [0:32:59, 0:33:06]: Uh I certainly uh like the idea of recirculating the water. It's conservation. [0:33:06, 0:33:11]: And that's one of the things that we certainly want to lean to and I would think, in my opinion, if you ask me. [0:33:12, 0:33:14]: Is the conserving water? А you know we've had uh [0:33:15, 0:33:19]: droughts here in the past and that kind of thing. And the last thing we want to do is to be [0:33:19, 0:33:20]: contributing to [0:33:21, 0:33:25]: uh you know, extra water usage. So recirculation certainly sounds like [0:33:26, 0:33:27]: Uh the way [0:33:27, 0:33:29]: Uh, in terms of conservation for water. [0:33:30, 0:33:33]: And l less water usage over time, obviously. [0:33:33, 0:33:36]: The cost saving would be dramatic in terms of [0:33:36, 0:33:38]: Рециркувати вода. [0:33:39, 0:33:42]: It wouldn't just be minimal because if you're talking about that volume of water. [0:33:43, 0:33:47]: uh on an hourly basis, those that's gonna be a tremendous amount of money. [0:33:47, 0:33:49]: Uh three hundred gallons an hour, I think you said. [0:33:50, 0:33:52]: Uh in some cases so [0:33:52, 0:33:58]: versus versus recyc recycling at three hundred gallons every hour. I mean in a in a twenty in a [0:33:58, 0:34:05]: twenty-four hour period, just multiply that three hundred gallons or or however long you eight hour period if you ran it for that long. [0:34:06, 0:34:10]: Just multiply that times three hundred gallons and you just understand the cost savings. [0:34:10, 0:34:13]: Uh let me make one thing perfectly clear. [0:34:13, 0:34:23]: Alexander Lake is not lake named after me. It is uh this is if you look at if you go up to Panola Mountain State Park. [0:34:24, 0:34:27]: Uh, there is a Alexander Lake feature, and I think they took this. [0:34:28, 0:34:30]: From uh the Alexander Lake. [0:34:30, 0:34:32]: Feature at Panola Mountain State Park. [0:34:33, 0:34:36]: If you go up the panola mountain, they have the South River. [0:34:37, 0:34:43]: Uh and then you would have the the actual Panola mountain itself. So it really kind of brings all of that right. [0:34:44, 0:34:47]: Into the city, and I hope at some point. [0:34:47, 0:34:49]: Is to extend our trail. [0:34:49, 0:34:51]: Uh, to the point where we can tap in. [0:34:51, 0:34:56]: and actually have wouldn't wouldn't think about that idea that folks could actually park here. [0:34:57, 0:35:02]: uh at the Panola Mountain display and then actually walk to Panola Mountain. [0:35:02, 0:35:05]: Uh from Stockbridge as a tourist attraction. [0:35:05, 0:35:11]: 'Cause right now when you go out there you gotta park at Panola Mountain and you have to actually pay a five dollar fee. [0:35:11, 0:35:13]: Whereas if you were able to park here. [0:35:14, 0:35:16]: You'd have a great walk up the village park. [0:35:18, 0:35:23]: Uh Panola Mountain State Park. I just wanted to make that clear. No, this is not related to me. [0:35:23, 0:35:24]: But in the end [0:35:24, 0:35:28]: I think I love this option and man the creativity. [0:35:29, 0:35:31]: That you guys put into this. [0:35:31, 0:35:33]: Option is amazing. [0:35:33, 0:35:34]: And just to think about [0:35:35, 0:35:36]: The idea of [0:35:36, 0:35:39]: This is the main entrance to the amphitheater, right? [0:35:41, 0:35:44]: So if if if you're coming through this side. [0:35:45, 0:35:49]: Imagine this and and the one thing about this flash pad. [0:35:49, 0:35:52]: It actually fits into the city's overall v uh [0:35:53, 0:35:55]: Project plan because we've had a splash pad [0:35:56, 0:35:58]: I I I wrote a a fountain splash pad. [0:35:59, 0:36:06]: uh on our plate for now since twenty sixteen, trying to decide where it's gonna go, what we're gonna do. [0:36:06, 0:36:08]: And to be able to add it here. [0:36:09, 0:36:21]: And the added feature is the amphitheater will only be able to be used for a couple of maybe three or four events a year. This can be used every single day. Talk about a tourist attraction. [0:36:21, 0:36:25]: And to be able to produce in the end, it's not about the water. [0:36:26, 0:36:30]: It's not about the amphitheater. It's about economic development. [0:36:30, 0:36:35]: So though that foot traffic in downtown will draw the coffee the coffee shop. [0:36:36, 0:36:40]: Uh withdrawal the restaurants that we're looking for because they need [0:36:40, 0:36:42]: foot traffic and they need people downtown. [0:36:43, 0:36:47]: So I actually l this particular version because it actually [0:36:47, 0:36:49]: Greets the Greeks. [0:36:49, 0:36:50]: Um [0:36:50, 0:36:53]: Visitors just like when you go to Centennial Park. [0:36:53, 0:37:03]: Uh so could you show a few pictures of the actual fountains themselves? Uh uh could you show a few pictures? I think you know the t the this the um [0:37:03, 0:37:08]: The presentation was very good and technical, but let's see some renderings of the actual fountains. [0:37:11, 0:37:12]: Options, yeah. [0:37:15, 0:37:35]: Yeah, I think that would definitely be next next steps would definitely be going would be going to that level of design for sure. Um, but thank you. And I want to give Peyton credit. This is his idea. And and you keyed in on his uh on Peyton's thinking, and that was the trails coming right by here. Let's connect these two things. Um [0:37:35, 0:37:45]: uh you know, physically connect these two things and drive uh activity, you know, from town. To the to the park. So that's that's good. You picked up on that. [0:37:47, 0:37:59]: Let me ask another question here. Um, say for instance we go up this option and we recirculate the water and this is right there in front of the amphitheater. Is there some type of security or or fence that we would have to have that [0:37:59, 0:38:05]: in this aspect is it's some decorative activity or wall or something along those lines that'll go around this as well. [0:38:07, 0:38:08]: Was it very simple open? [0:38:08, 0:38:28]: You these you know we do these we do these things all the time. They're open. Um, you know, you we now we do you can see we've got some stuff up by the road, uh some barrier plantings and the like. Uh we want to keep views open into it so people can see it. It's important because that will, you know, that will draw people into it. [0:38:28, 0:38:43]: Um, but there's there's no requirement to have fencing around it, uh, because that that is how it is, a little different from a pool because technically there's not standing water. Um and [0:38:43, 0:38:53]: I'm not really aware of any security issue on any of these that we've done elsewhere. We integrate them a lot into town centers. [0:38:54, 0:38:55]: Uh [0:38:55, 0:39:06]: projects and and even just regular park projects. And um, you know, once you turn the water off, there's nothing there for people to do. So uh you can kind of control activity that way. [0:39:07, 0:39:11]: All right, thank you. Uh council, any other questions at all uh about this uh [0:39:12, 0:39:15]: Uh about this. Uh Council Camp, go right ahead, please, Ms. Camp. [0:39:15, 0:39:26]: Oh thanks. Um actually this falls right online with the LCI. It does. So I'm really excited about that. It spalls right in the and we've been trying to get it for a while. [0:39:26, 0:39:27]: So [0:39:28, 0:39:39]: We've been trying to get it for a while. So I really appreciate this and I'm excited about it. I hope that we can, you know, that it fits within our budget and financials and everything works out perfect. [0:39:39, 0:39:43]: Um but it's it moves right on along with the LCI. [0:39:44, 0:39:45]: And I love it. [0:39:45, 0:39:46]: Good deal. [0:39:46, 0:39:48]: Awesome, you're right. It certainly does. [0:39:49, 0:39:53]: Okay, um any other comments from the council? Anyone else? [0:39:54, 0:39:56]: About this at all. Thoughts? [0:39:57, 0:39:59]: Go ahead, please. [0:39:59, 0:40:08]: So I like the uh idea and vision of this. Um just uh the look of this from the streets. [0:40:09, 0:40:12]: It is going to attract people um to the amphitheater. [0:40:13, 0:40:18]: I just I'm excited about all the new changes that are coming to the city. [0:40:18, 0:40:20]: This thing, um [0:40:20, 0:40:32]: one of the another area where kids can come and play free to be kids. Are you gonna also have the rock climbing displays as well? [0:40:33, 0:40:53]: Yeah, I mean I so one of the great things about this space is it's pretty big. So um, you know, we've got a number of other things like playworms, uh this um climbing boulder, the Penural Mountain climbing boulder. So all that is meant to be uh interactive, kind of naturally uh a natural focused kind of play area. [0:40:53, 0:41:00]: Yeah, and also some open space too. So it's really a park, it's really a a little parklet with uh an interactive water feature in a [0:41:02, 0:41:03]: Very very flexible. [0:41:04, 0:41:08]: I don't know. Um so will there be? [0:41:09, 0:41:13]: Sidewalk well, I guess there is sidewalks around this. [0:41:14, 0:41:18]: um if you wanted to come through downtown and ride a bike. [0:41:18, 0:41:19]: Was your game? [0:41:20, 0:41:40]: Definitely. Yeah, we have really good access uh to this. Um, you know, we upgraded a lot of the access with the amphitheater project as well, um, but there's a sidewalk all along East Atlanta Road. Um uh that that links to the railroad tracks, so [0:41:42, 0:41:43]: Um [0:41:45, 0:41:50]: I know there'll be sidewalks on East Atlanta Road. I mean um anywhere around the [0:41:51, 0:41:53]: vicinity of the splash pad. [0:41:54, 0:42:05]: Oh you mean in inside the yeah, um we haven't gotten to that level of detail, but the entire part will be accessible. So sorry, I didn't understand your question. [0:42:05, 0:42:14]: Okay. Brian, why don't you flip to the overall view really quick that shows the promenade, the amphitheater in this location with City Hall behind it. [0:42:17, 0:42:37]: So that's kind of external circulation and then and then internally everything. I mean, we're required to make everything accessible, but really one of our one of our design drivers just kind of as a firm is universal accessibility for exterior spaces. So that's something you can see that theme actually in the amphitheater. [0:42:37, 0:42:48]: as well. There are a lot of curveless areas. You know, we want as many people to be able to use these spaces, you know, with as many different modes of of uh modality as possible. So [0:42:52, 0:42:53]: Thank you. [0:42:53, 0:42:53]: Mm-hmm. [0:42:54, 0:42:57]: Anybody else, any other council members, any other comments about uh [0:42:58, 0:42:59]: The options one or two. [0:43:00, 0:43:02]: And your thoughts about Councilman Thomas, you're unmuted, sir. [0:43:03, 0:43:16]: Yes, um I I I'm going to concur with everyone else. I think this is a great feature. As uh Mrs. Gantt mentioned, you know, we have talked about this for a while going back um many years. [0:43:17, 0:43:20]: uh you know before twenty sixteen [0:43:20, 0:43:23]: Uh we also Charlot talked about a [0:43:23, 0:43:25]: seasonal skating rate. [0:43:26, 0:43:30]: Uh so you know these type of conversation have been going on for a while. [0:43:30, 0:43:33]: My only concern is and I know um [0:43:34, 0:43:37]: You know, we can operate this at at our will. [0:43:37, 0:43:40]: I I I just don't know um [0:43:41, 0:43:53]: if this should be operational doing concerts because as uh councilwoman barber mentioned you have to allow kids to be kids. Um it will be allowed. Uh I'm visioning um [0:43:54, 0:43:59]: The one in Savannah and I usually uh walk to that area and um [0:43:59, 0:44:02]: You know, kids and even adults too. [0:44:02, 0:44:09]: You know, they're out splashing, having a great time and it and it is very loud. So, but I know we do have that option. [0:44:09, 0:44:14]: uh to to operate at will but I think just on a everyday basis. [0:44:14, 0:44:18]: Uh when there are no concerts going on, I I think this would be great. [0:44:19, 0:44:22]: Uh originally I I did have some concerns about [0:44:22, 0:44:25]: Uh, option two as far as the location. [0:44:25, 0:44:37]: and uh obstruction to the amphitheater. But as we got into the discussion, I see where option two location is is is probably uh beneficial. [0:44:38, 0:44:41]: uh to to the whole overall scheme. [0:44:41, 0:44:46]: And the landscape of um you know City Hall and the amphitheater. So [0:44:46, 0:44:50]: Uh, I guess at some point in time we will get into [0:44:50, 0:44:51]: Cost. [0:44:51, 0:44:55]: And and I think that's what's going to uh drive [0:44:55, 0:44:59]: Um, you know, everything that um we want to accomplish today. [0:45:00, 0:45:01]: Thank you. [0:45:01, 0:45:05]: Thank you, sir. Anybody else? Any other council members and comments? [0:45:06, 0:45:09]: Mayor Mayor, can you hear me? Yeah, go ahead, Councilman Blount. Go ahead, sir. [0:45:10, 0:45:16]: Yes, we gotcha. Yeah, mayor, I just wanna say that, you know, when I came in uh first came into office in twenty sixteen, um [0:45:17, 0:45:23]: You know, there was a lot of talks about different projects and some of'em are now coming to fruition and they're we're moving things forward. [0:45:24, 0:45:39]: And you know, I I saw a drive such a and and I think you Councilwoman Gantt because I know that you was really harboring on, hey, let's get this splash, splash, splash, pan, you kinda even wanted some kind of combination. I think at one time uh during the uh holiday. [0:45:39, 0:45:41]: Um that year. [0:45:42, 0:45:50]: But this council is is is aggressively moving forward and I think it's a great thing that we're sitting here planning not only to see what we want and how we want it. [0:45:51, 0:45:53]: But to also come up with a um [0:45:53, 0:46:04]: a financial plan in order to not only sustain it, have sustainability, but but to actually make sure that when we lay these foundations that it that it's gonna be something that's [0:46:04, 0:46:11]: just great for the citizens and uh and it's just uh uh it's it's it's a it's it's a great day in city to stop bread and I just uh [0:46:11, 0:46:24]: Thank you all uh with TSW for uh the work and efforts that you all are doing, sta and and the work the staff is doing. And uh commend my council members, uh colleagues, if you will, for the work that uh that we're doing. [0:46:25, 0:46:28]: Good to appreciate that. Um [0:46:28, 0:46:30]: In the comments. Anybody else? [0:46:32, 0:46:40]: How about a Ms. Knight and sir? You have some comments at all uh as well. I think Councilwoman uh Barber is is has her hand raised. I'll defer I'll I'll [0:46:41, 0:46:41]: All right. [0:46:42, 0:46:43]: Councilman Barber, go ahead. [0:46:43, 0:46:49]: I wanted to ask and I don't know. So um from the East Atlanta Roadway. [0:46:49, 0:46:56]: Is there any kind of I know we're getting way fine, way fine signage, um, but is there [0:46:57, 0:47:01]: And I don't even know how to explain it, but um something [0:47:01, 0:47:02]: Uh [0:47:02, 0:47:06]: a call display or anything that's going to have [0:47:06, 0:47:07]: Um [0:47:07, 0:47:09]: the wording amphitheater. [0:47:10, 0:47:10]: Um [0:47:11, 0:47:14]: Any sign wall [0:47:15, 0:47:20]: Yep. I don't know if that's something that was included in the original plans or [0:47:21, 0:47:26]: Yeah, I I believe I believe what's happening that we had another um um [0:47:26, 0:47:37]: Falcon Design, I believe, is working out the wayfinding signs to give direction to the downtown area to aver to to s direct people to our area. I'm talking about something more of a um [0:47:38, 0:47:44]: monumental a monument or a wall uh [0:47:44, 0:47:46]: I don't know. [0:47:47, 0:47:58]: Councilwoman Councilwoman Barber, yes, there there's always been um and it's been delayed because of the roadwinding project primarily, but there's always been a plan for a large [0:47:58, 0:48:05]: essentially a video board uh sign um near the corner of East Atlanta near the fountain. Right. [0:48:06, 0:48:08]: And that and and part of the [0:48:09, 0:48:19]: Delay of putting that up was because of the roadway project, having that right turn lane uh constructed and making sure that the dimensions were right and so forth. And and actually TSW was working on [0:48:19, 0:48:23]: have been working on that for us. So there would be a sign there that would [0:48:23, 0:48:28]: um advertise uh obviously events at the amphitheater but but general [0:48:29, 0:48:42]: um general meetings uh that the city council is holding or city is holding as well as uh pointing people to um hopefully our our our amphitheater entrance splash pad so forth. [0:48:45, 0:48:46]: Okay, thank you. [0:48:46, 0:48:47]: Mm-hmm. [0:48:48, 0:48:49]: All right. [0:48:49, 0:49:03]: Um any other comments or questions? Oh Mr. Knight, did you I'm sorry, back to you, sir. You have some additional you anything you needed to add or talk about. I just want to make sure that uh council had had uh uh finished uh any any questions or comments they had and [0:49:03, 0:49:11]: I assume that uh this option number two, it I guess it is, is what the council would like to see is option two. Is that what I'm hearing? [0:49:11, 0:49:20]: I would say so. Yes. Okay. So we're planning then to move forward with option two as the location for this interactive water feature. [0:49:23, 0:49:23]: Right. [0:49:24, 0:49:28]: Okay. So mayor Yes, sir. Councilman Blaunt, go ahead. [0:49:29, 0:49:38]: Yeah, um I I totally one hundred percent concur with what uh councilwoman barber is saying. Um, because we s I still talk to citizens that don't [0:49:39, 0:49:43]: Creaking that area stop bridge and and they have no idea. [0:49:44, 0:49:53]: uh how beautiful things are happening with this amphitheater or even Pat being able to go in that area and look at it. So I I think that [0:49:54, 0:50:02]: the wayfinder signage to the amphitheater, I think that should be up now. Uh what's inevitable is that the amphitheater is going to be there. [0:50:03, 0:50:03]: Uh [0:50:04, 0:50:10]: And I think that when you come out the interstate, if if just like when you go to i other places, when you come up the interstate, it's important. [0:50:10, 0:50:13]: Which way to go get your driver's license? I think that we should have [0:50:14, 0:50:17]: Sign is already pointing showing which way the amphitheater is and that's [0:50:17, 0:50:19]: That's beside the uh [0:50:20, 0:50:40]: the uh electronic board that we're talking about by uh city hall, that should already be right now. I mean it's inevitable. So why don't we already have a sign and so people say, oh amphitheater, let me drive over there. Even though it's closed and they know that at least people can have an opportunity to know that something's going on over there and they can drive by and see it and see [0:50:40, 0:50:41]: Say, wow, I can't wait on that. [0:50:42, 0:50:44]: You know, w we got we gotta do things that just [0:50:45, 0:51:00]: tweet the citizen and give them excitement just like we are. And I think wayfinder signage uh for the amphitheater should should be right like right now. Uh even if it's something we say, hey, we want this unified signing throughout the city, but something should be out, I believe, right now. [0:51:01, 0:51:12]: Okay, sir. Thank you. We'll have to follow up on that with with Falcon Design as well. Uh okay, Councilman Thomas. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I wanted to know from Mrs. Hubble. [0:51:13, 0:51:14]: Um [0:51:14, 0:51:27]: When will we get into cost analysis? Um, and Mr. Night, I defer to you. Is this something that we would discuss today or we would discuss discuss finance at a later time? [0:51:28, 0:51:34]: I think probably when they design it, but I can give you a scale of magnitude. I can give you a broad estimate right now. [0:51:34, 0:51:36]: Okay, that'd be great. [0:51:36, 0:51:37]: Okay. [0:51:37, 0:51:41]: And I'll I'll also defer to TSW, but in my conversations with them. [0:51:41, 0:51:45]: You would probably be looking at and I can't remember which option. [0:51:45, 0:51:47]: Uh may have been [0:51:47, 0:51:51]: Between the two, but I believe you're looking at about five hundred thousand dollars. [0:51:52, 0:51:53]: So [0:51:53, 0:52:13]: So there so the that's the option one, of course. The option everybody likes is the right now is uh I I'm thinking and this is a ballpark number, so there's a lot of work that has to go into this uh into figuring this out for real. This is about [0:52:13, 0:52:18]: What we're looking at on the sheet right now, we're thinking is maybe about 1.7 million. [0:52:18, 0:52:21]: One point what? About seven point seven million. [0:52:22, 0:52:27]: Okay, option one. I'm waiting. Let me go back. Option one was about 500. [0:52:27, 0:52:35]: Option option one is about is about a half a million dollars. And here's why. Option one really is just [0:52:36, 0:52:48]: Just I mean really it's just the splash pad there are already walls in place and some of that. A lot of the infrastructure over there already exists. And if you're just talking about the the interactive water feature component. [0:52:50, 0:53:00]: void of everything else that you're looking at on this sheet, which really is a park. Um, you know, the the actual water feature part it's probably about a half million dollars. [0:53:00, 0:53:01]: Um but [0:53:02, 0:53:11]: But with the ri you know, with the researchation uh comes a restroom and then all the other modifications we'd have to make to make this a park. [0:53:11, 0:53:31]: Um, you know, there's a lot there. So I mean, we can at the next level design, we can work through all that and break it down so that everybody can understand where the money's going. We can also change design. I mean, you know, uh I think I think one key aspect, you know, the the the really important aspect. [0:53:31, 0:53:51]: is if you're gonna do it deciding where you're gonna do it right now, that impacts construction. The other side especially uh impacts construction potentially. So um so the good news is the size that you like most actually has the least impact on the current construction, which buys us a little bit of time. [0:53:51, 0:53:56]: to kind of work through some of the um design program issues and budget [0:54:00, 0:54:10]: Well you well then no, I mean that's it's it's good to know'cause, you know, um for planning purposes and for the council to understand in terms of the scale of magnitude. [0:54:11, 0:54:15]: I I want to mention one other thing, but I see Mayor Proteum Alexander's hand. [0:54:16, 0:54:24]: All right, sir. I mean, do you want to uh finish your comment, Ms. Knight, or you uh defer I'll I'll I'll after after Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. Mayor Pro Tem Alexander, go ahead, please. [0:54:25, 0:54:35]: Yeah, the first thing that I would say is is I think you're looking at that building structure, which is the restroom and the vending area, how expensive how how expensive is that? [0:54:36, 0:54:38]: And that i is that even necessary? [0:54:38, 0:54:42]: That I would start right there when you talk about paring down the cost'cause you have [0:54:42, 0:54:46]: uh restrooms right there in the amphitheater building right behind it. [0:54:46, 0:54:49]: So that building in itself probably is. [0:54:50, 0:54:53]: Maybe five or six hundred thousand dollars it by itself so [0:54:54, 0:54:57]: That that we can start right. I think maybe we want to start right there. [0:54:58, 0:54:59]: Yeah. [0:54:59, 0:55:19]: And and one of the things I mean I totally agree. And one of the things that was really attractive about this location uh for the design team originally was the fact that y'all just made a major investment in restrooms not too far away and and figuring out there are some uh there are some uh issues or I guess [0:55:19, 0:55:39]: guess barriers to getting access there right now because of the way the the gates are and and the like and there's limited access to interior that. Um and I think we just would have to study how that might happen. But I agree um both both access to that and I'm not even really sure what's what's in City Hall. [0:55:39, 0:55:59]: uh on that side too there might be an opportunity there we just haven't studied it in detail but i think that's the lowest hanging fruit uh from a budgetary standpoint because you're right that's a half million dollar building uh you know we build those you know we build those all the time and that's about how much that building's gonna cost so right so we we can take a half a million dollars out of the [0:55:58, 0:56:02]: project, I think. Let's start right there. Yeah. [0:56:02, 0:56:20]: Well, I will tell you, um I'll tell you in this case, I have to disagree with that. I think if you're gonna have a park, you need to have a restroom on there because you're dealing with young kids. And you're talking about if you have young kids that need to use a restroom, you'd rather them go to a facility close by versus going fifty or almost a hundred yards away to [0:56:20, 0:56:22]: get to something at the amphitheater. [0:56:22, 0:56:27]: And uh being familiar with a a a pool, a large pool in my community. [0:56:27, 0:56:33]: having access to a restroom close by is is I think is a needed uh n necessity. [0:56:33, 0:56:34]: Yeah, I'll grab it. [0:56:34, 0:56:45]: I mean, that's my opinion, you know, in this aspect. But I think we would need to have uh some active restrooms close by. Because if you don't, if young folks, unfortunately, it could even be adults. [0:56:45, 0:56:52]: you know, would would do something in the water and then you have to shock it and then you have to analyze it and and cleanse it and then that means it shuts everything down. [0:56:53, 0:56:54]: So um [0:56:54, 0:56:56]: I I recommend keeping uh restrooms on site. [0:56:57, 0:56:59]: Yes, I really agree. [0:56:59, 0:57:19]: with your assessment, how far is the West Building? I mean, how many literal literally, how many feet is it? It's just right across the sidewalk. Yeah, but the the one concern, if I may, uh mayor, the one concern one concern with that is the the restroom buildings that are part of the amphitheater are going to be basically closed off. [0:57:20, 0:57:20]: Uh [0:57:21, 0:57:21]: You know. [0:57:21, 0:57:26]: Okay. Ninety percent of the time because they're they're internal to the amphitheater. [0:57:26, 0:57:33]: And if we're looking at uh this water feature splash pad, that's gonna be something that people will utilize basically on a daily basis. [0:57:34, 0:57:42]: And so you don't want, I don't think we would want people traversing thr or trying to get through the amphitheater, because I don't I think we wanna keep the amphitheater secured when it's not being used. [0:57:43, 0:57:45]: People coming back and forth that way. So [0:57:46, 0:57:47]: Yep, then five things. [0:57:49, 0:57:54]: Okay. Let me ask you one other question then. Do we have we have park money in Splas Five? [0:57:55, 0:57:56]: We do, yes. [0:57:57, 0:58:02]: Okay. So we do have some we've got a little bit of spots by that is correct. Yes, we do. Okay. All right. Thank you. [0:58:03, 0:58:09]: Uh councilman Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. Um in in this estimated cost. [0:58:09, 0:58:12]: Is the uh design cost built into [0:58:13, 0:58:19]: um the quotes that we've heard thus far as costs uh for the past. [0:58:21, 0:58:25]: Well, I I first want to just reiterate that is a [0:58:25, 0:58:43]: back and napkin number that I gave you. Um and we also haven't really done a detailed design on this. So so the answer is no. Those that's an estimate of what I think the hard cost is based on our experience uh building things like this. Um so their design costs would be on top of that. [0:58:44, 0:58:47]: Wow. Okay. Thank you. [0:58:48, 0:58:50]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am, go right here, please. [0:58:51, 0:58:57]: I would like to um remind council also [0:58:58, 0:59:08]: Um myself and Michael Harris at one time when he was the city manager, we looked at other options to help fund as far as grants were concerned to cons including the C D BG. [0:59:09, 0:59:16]: Um, I don't know if there will be eligible at this point, but at that time there was some uh possibility of being eligible for that. [0:59:16, 0:59:30]: um to help fund some things and I also um uh what councilman thomas was stating I also we also talked to people about a converted water feature which converted to an ice rink in the winter and a um [0:59:30, 0:59:31]: uh [0:59:31, 0:59:33]: Splash pad in the summer. [0:59:33, 0:59:37]: So those are things that we've looked at and there should be some records of it somewhere. [0:59:41, 0:59:41]: Okay. [0:59:42, 0:59:48]: Uh any further comments from the council before we go back to Mr. Knighton at all? [0:59:49, 0:59:56]: I would just say that this thing, I mean, it's it's a dream come true if you could actually put it together and we could find the financing. [0:59:56, 1:00:01]: uh for in splash five or as uh councilwoman Gantt suggested. [1:00:01, 1:00:04]: Now you wedded our appetite. It's like [1:00:04, 1:00:07]: We went on a shopping spree on uh [1:00:07, 1:00:27]: uh choose this on HGTV and we seen the the uh Maybox we can't go back to the Pinto after we seen the Maybach. You know what I mean? So this is the Maybach. So let's let's kind of take a look at it. And now my appetite's with it now just like wow [1:00:27, 1:00:31]: Wouldn't this be amazing? Now we just gotta figure out how to do it. [1:00:32, 1:00:35]: But good deal. Mr. Knighton, sir, you have some final comments? [1:00:36, 1:00:53]: Yeah, thank you. I I I do think uh the water feature there, the interactive water feature would be a tremendous complement to the um to the amphitheater property itself. I really do um obviously the cost uh matter is something to be considered, which we'll need to dive down on a little bit more. [1:00:54, 1:00:55]: Um but but [1:00:56, 1:00:59]: Will will continue to move forward in terms of [1:01:00, 1:01:05]: uh trying to get uh more detailed numbers on this location as mentioned by the council. [1:01:06, 1:01:13]: Um, the one other thing I wanted to mention before we left the amphitheater property was something I began to think about a little bit more last night. [1:01:14, 1:01:15]: Um and looking at these. [1:01:16, 1:01:19]: Locations and designs, one thing that had been considered [1:01:20, 1:01:22]: Was some type of [1:01:23, 1:01:24]: facility or building [1:01:25, 1:01:26]: for management company. [1:01:28, 1:01:28]: When we [1:01:29, 1:01:34]: When I started thinking about this, um, and then had a further conversation with Heather actually this morning. [1:01:35, 1:01:37]: The will call building itself. [1:01:38, 1:01:44]: has um the window that faces city hall. I'm talking about one of the four buildings that are currently [1:01:44, 1:01:46]: uh been constructed there. [1:01:46, 1:01:48]: And it has um [1:01:48, 1:01:50]: We have two offices in it. [1:01:51, 1:01:53]: That one right there that Heather's showing you. [1:01:53, 1:01:53]: Mm-hmm. [1:01:54, 1:02:00]: It has two offices in it, one uh a general office, then it has another kind of a slash security office in it. [1:02:01, 1:02:05]: Вич, квайт Онесли, домой бабат і проблікин суфіс фор. [1:02:06, 1:02:07]: A management company. [1:02:08, 1:02:13]: uh personnel to operate out out of. It also has a very large storage area, has two storage areas. It has one [1:02:14, 1:02:18]: It's right there near the ticketing window and has a much larger storage area. [1:02:18, 1:02:21]: Um in the building itself and so [1:02:21, 1:02:23]: As I think about this more. [1:02:24, 1:02:26]: I'm not sure that we really need another building. [1:02:26, 1:02:29]: That the management company could operate. [1:02:29, 1:02:33]: out of that building um as it's currently designed and constructed. [1:02:34, 1:02:35]: And so [1:02:36, 1:02:36]: Um [1:02:37, 1:02:38]: I wanted to mention that. [1:02:39, 1:02:41]: Um, because [1:02:42, 1:02:45]: Again, when we look at functionality and we look at [1:02:45, 1:02:51]: overall cost, I think we may have our answer there already with respect to any [1:02:51, 1:02:52]: Um [1:02:52, 1:02:56]: management company function out of that particular or uh on the location. [1:02:58, 1:02:59]: So that's good, mayor. [1:03:00, 1:03:01]: Yeah, go write it, sir. [1:03:01, 1:03:06]: So that that building was actually uh factored into the amphitheater costs. [1:03:07, 1:03:18]: It's already built. Yeah, it's one of the ones that's already built. I'm saying uh a the the secondary proposed building for oh oh it was it was not originally. No okay, okay. [1:03:20, 1:03:40]: All right. Well, that's a that's a good thought, uh Mr. Night. That's that that maybe that'll that'll really work for us in that aspect as well. If that's a case of saving us from saving us from spending a certain amount of money and maybe you analyze or utilize that money for somewhere something else. Okay. Um before we move on, uh any other comments in reference to the splash pad? And [1:03:40, 1:03:42]: uh thoughts or comments before we move on. [1:03:43, 1:03:44]: No one else. [1:03:46, 1:03:51]: All right. Well let's uh move on to the next uh project that you want to highlight for us. [1:03:51, 1:03:52]: But uh Heather? [1:03:53, 1:03:55]: That would be the cultural arts center. [1:03:55, 1:03:55]: Sure thing. [1:03:56, 1:03:58]: Um so let's get into this discussion. [1:03:59, 1:04:03]: Um so this is the perspective we've y'all seen before. [1:04:03, 1:04:04]: Of kind of [1:04:04, 1:04:06]: what the cultural arts center could look like. [1:04:07, 1:04:15]: Um, and I just wanted to talk quickly about kind of the iterations we've gone through uh in the past years. So we started with kind of a rough concept. [1:04:16, 1:04:26]: um in 2018, then we went to what I'm calling the wish list concept, which you know greatly increased kind of from that original concept what the square footage could be. [1:04:26, 1:04:28]: Had classrooms. [1:04:28, 1:04:29]: Um [1:04:29, 1:04:32]: A full blown kind of uh black box theater. [1:04:33, 1:04:39]: I had a lot of bells and whistles. So we went from that plan because that obviously increased the price of this project. [1:04:39, 1:04:40]: Uh [1:04:40, 1:04:50]: and you know, based on council feedback to a reduced program, which was really about highlighting or maintaining the functionality inside of the theater, which are the um [1:04:50, 1:04:55]: blue component so that it could be community theater or it could be a traveling show. [1:04:55, 1:04:58]: That that um theater really could handle. [1:04:58, 1:05:00]: А лов different performance types. [1:05:00, 1:05:05]: And then also keeping a focus on kind of the um assembly spaces. [1:05:05, 1:05:10]: So uh the museum, the gallery, as well as the ballroom. [1:05:10, 1:05:18]: uh which are rendered uh in red. These are just the first floor plans, but I kind of wanted to recapture kind of where we've been with this project. [1:05:20, 1:05:31]: Um, so last time we um did a council workshop that I presented on this, there was just a a couple of pieces of feedback. One was to make sure that we could get over [1:05:31, 1:05:36]: three hundred seats inside of this theater. So we do have uh currently now [1:05:37, 1:05:37]: Um [1:05:37, 1:05:47]: three hundred and twenty-one seats. So those are selling seats and that includes the floor seating, the box seating, the balcony seating, and the balcony box seating. So all of that. [1:05:49, 1:05:57]: Uh and then there was also feedback that we want to make sure that the ballroom itself could handle over or at least 300 folks. [1:05:57, 1:06:08]: So that is the one change you see in these plans is that we've extended the ballroom out over the gallery space so that we can actually get now about three hundred and twenty folks. [1:06:08, 1:06:20]: um sitting at round tables for a sit-down dinner. This is tight at uh 320. I think a 300 will feel much better uh you know taking a few of those seats out. [1:06:20, 1:06:21]: Um so [1:06:21, 1:06:27]: You know, these are these are the program components that were asked for in the feedback. So I wanna make sure that um [1:06:27, 1:06:28]: I talked about that. [1:06:30, 1:06:30]: Um [1:06:31, 1:06:31]: So [1:06:31, 1:06:41]: You know, when this budget was presented or when this project was presented uh in March twenty twenty, um we gave you a order of magnitude cost from thirteen million [1:06:42, 1:06:43]: Um to [1:06:44, 1:06:45]: uh twenty six milyen. [1:06:46, 1:06:51]: And council has approved uh what I understand is the fourteen million project uh construction. [1:06:52, 1:06:54]: So all in budget. [1:06:55, 1:06:56]: So [1:06:56, 1:06:58]: Randy, of course, reached out to me about [1:06:58, 1:07:02]: the approved budget and wanting to move forward. Um [1:07:02, 1:07:08]: He and I both thought together that uh before we head down and start spending professional fees, uh [1:07:09, 1:07:14]: manipulating this building and kind of moving it forward that we should have a detailed cost estimate done. [1:07:14, 1:07:17]: Um so we brought in ADE uh [1:07:17, 1:07:20]: cost consultings who are part of our on call [1:07:20, 1:07:21]: Um group. [1:07:21, 1:07:26]: ADE all they do is construction cost estimates, uh detailed estimates. So [1:07:27, 1:07:35]: They provided a very detailed estimate. Um, and I'm not sure if everyone uh on the council has seen it. Rand uh Mr. Knighton does have it. [1:07:35, 1:07:37]: Um so you can achieve it. But I wanted to kind of [1:07:38, 1:07:40]: Capture what that is. So [1:07:40, 1:07:43]: We had a rough order of magnitude anywhere from thirteen million to um [1:07:43, 1:07:45]: uh twenty six milyen [1:07:45, 1:07:47]: Council approved fourteen. [1:07:47, 1:07:52]: We've had this uh detailed cost estimate to make sure that we were capturing all the cost. [1:07:52, 1:07:59]: Um and what AD um what ADE has turned around to us is a hard cost of this current design. [1:07:59, 1:08:06]: Um at eighteen point four million with an additional soft cost of uh two million. [1:08:07, 1:08:14]: Then kind of furnishing it an owner contingency, those are wrapping about three million with a total project budget of [1:08:15, 1:08:19]: uh twenty three million, twenty three point five million. So it falls into the [1:08:19, 1:08:25]: order of magnitude cost range that I gave, but it's more than what's been approved by council. [1:08:26, 1:08:27]: Um so [1:08:27, 1:08:36]: What we need to do is go into a VE stage of kind of pulling this these project costs, these uh cost of construction in. [1:08:36, 1:08:39]: So your soft cost, your contingency, your furnishing. [1:08:40, 1:08:45]: Um all of those are multipliers on the hard cost, the cost of construction. [1:08:45, 1:08:46]: So we can pull down [1:08:47, 1:08:51]: The hard cost of construction, um, which is sitting at eighteen million. [1:08:51, 1:08:53]: Uh, and get it down below two million. [1:08:54, 1:08:56]: I'm sorry, uh twelve million, excuse me. [1:08:56, 1:09:00]: Um, then you know, everything else will reduce as well. [1:09:00, 1:09:08]: So what I'm gonna talk to you about now is we need to basically pull about six point four million dollars out of the [1:09:08, 1:09:14]: construction cost to get the other numbers to shrink down within the budget. [1:09:16, 1:09:17]: Questions about that? [1:09:18, 1:09:20]: That's a humdinger. [1:09:20, 1:09:24]: Yeah. Okay. Councilman Thomas, go ahead. I saw your hands. [1:09:27, 1:09:32]: I don't know, Mrs. Hubble, have you actually completed that, but I I wanted to get into [1:09:32, 1:09:42]: A discussion how we could reduce um to try to reach that 14. Uh, I wanted to ask questions uh centered around some of the landscaping. [1:09:43, 1:09:48]: Uh I know we need all the parking that we could get, but uh at some point in time in the discussion. [1:09:48, 1:09:58]: You know, we we want to try to talk about how we can get down. Uh Mr. Knight, let me ask if uh Mrs. Johnson and Mr. Peterson, are they available? [1:09:58, 1:10:00]: Are they here this morning? [1:10:02, 1:10:03]: You muted Mr. Knight. [1:10:07, 1:10:10]: You muted, sir. Miss Knighton, you're muted. [1:10:11, 1:10:13]: Sorry about that. They are not on the call. [1:10:13, 1:10:19]: Right now, council. At some point I I wanted to emphasize [1:10:20, 1:10:23]: The the significance and the importance of [1:10:24, 1:10:25]: Cultural arts. [1:10:25, 1:10:29]: Um, you know, here in the city of Stockbridge and and how [1:10:30, 1:10:31]: Um, you know [1:10:32, 1:10:34]: The whole entity of of the arts. [1:10:35, 1:10:39]: And economic development, how it meshes, how it go hand in hand. [1:10:39, 1:10:42]: Uh but even with that discussion. [1:10:42, 1:10:44]: I think realistically, um [1:10:45, 1:10:48]: We'll have to talk about how we get down to to the fourteen. [1:10:49, 1:10:51]: And so we need some options. [1:10:51, 1:10:55]: uh, you know, cutting options. But I will say too that the [1:10:56, 1:11:01]: Um, you know, this facility is also a revenue. [1:11:02, 1:11:05]: generating facility, you know, which we hadn't talked about. [1:11:05, 1:11:07]: Um much. [1:11:07, 1:11:09]: Uh the um [1:11:10, 1:11:11]: The barroom. [1:11:13, 1:11:14]: Um [1:11:14, 1:11:16]: And the theater. [1:11:16, 1:11:17]: In particularly [1:11:18, 1:11:20]: Uh those um [1:11:20, 1:11:21]: Components. [1:11:22, 1:11:24]: uh that are revenue generating. [1:11:25, 1:11:27]: Uh, we talked about being able to compete. [1:11:28, 1:11:34]: Uh not with our own Mermandus uh in in this case, but there are other venues. [1:11:34, 1:11:37]: uh within Henry County and neighboring counties. [1:11:38, 1:11:41]: That we want to be able to uh compete with as far as [1:11:41, 1:11:42]: Um [1:11:43, 1:11:45]: This facility being available. [1:11:45, 1:11:51]: Um and we know that you know with this three hundred and twenty some art numbers. [1:11:51, 1:11:55]: uh for the uh ballroom and we know how [1:11:55, 1:12:01]: Uh with some activities at the Mural Maners Conference and we know how that sort of packs out, but [1:12:01, 1:12:03]: I I just don't want us to lose sight of [1:12:04, 1:12:07]: potentially, you know, the revenue. [1:12:07, 1:12:14]: generating aspect uh of this, uh even though uh you know we will be offering cultural arts. [1:12:14, 1:12:15]: Um [1:12:15, 1:12:23]: type of uh society um amenity but uh I just want to get into that and and realistically as I stated earlier. [1:12:23, 1:12:26]: We do have to look at how we can get down to that fourteen. [1:12:28, 1:12:29]: Correct. [1:12:29, 1:12:43]: Uh I'd just like to add in, Councilman Thomas, uh I and maybe we haven't thoroughly discussed this, but as we look at the this uh building, this art center, um I was thinking that we probably have to have some type of full-time staff dedicated to [1:12:43, 1:13:03]: managing this as well. So even though we'll reduce it down and could reduce it down, we have that discussion obviously, and that we would um look at uh gener generating revenue from uh from the banquets or from the theater, there was also going to be a cost involving personnel and this thing to the [1:13:03, 1:13:06]: have to run this, I would say, uh on a daily basis per se. [1:13:07, 1:13:08]: Who forgot? [1:13:08, 1:13:17]: Let me mention one other thing real quick, Mayor, in reference to Councilman Thomas' question. Actually, Mr. Peterson has been listening on Facebook Live. He's listening to the conversation. [1:13:17, 1:13:20]: We'll get him a panelist link uh to be uh here. [1:13:21, 1:13:23]: on the panelist uh forum. [1:13:23, 1:13:31]: Uh as well. But yes, we were planning to as part of Miss Ms. Hubble has not gone through her complete convers or the presentation. [1:13:31, 1:13:36]: But there are things here that we want to discuss in terms of any cost reduction reductions. [1:13:37, 1:13:38]: Associated with the cultural arts. [1:13:41, 1:13:45]: So um so time to roll up our sleeves. Um [1:13:46, 1:13:51]: So here is just a snapshot of kind of the cover page of this cost estimate. [1:13:52, 1:13:54]: Uh so you can see the kind of different [1:13:54, 1:13:56]: Хард кост [1:13:57, 1:13:58]: divisions of construction. [1:13:59, 1:14:00]: Um so [1:14:00, 1:14:01]: Just to point out a few. [1:14:02, 1:14:07]: Um, you know, there's over two million dollars in demolition and site work. Uh there's obviously [1:14:08, 1:14:08]: Uh [1:14:09, 1:14:10]: Okay. [1:14:10, 1:14:14]: структур'зов [1:14:14, 1:14:23]: uh kind of in-place retaining walls, all of those things need to be kind of taken out and cleaned up to you know even start kind of the start the project. [1:14:24, 1:14:26]: So that's you know, there's a lot of [1:14:26, 1:14:33]: money in the site. And the site is quite huge. Uh there you know, there's big parking expanses. There's kind of a park in the front. [1:14:33, 1:14:38]: Um there's also a water feature. So there's a lot of co uh monies. [1:14:38, 1:14:40]: or pieces to that side. [1:14:40, 1:14:49]: Um there's also a lot of masonry shown in our design, uh both in the horizontal surface and in the vertical surface. So that's coming in around two million dollars. [1:14:49, 1:14:53]: Uh you know, your metal is primarily the structure of the building. [1:14:53, 1:14:57]: Um all of those pieces that are holding it up, the floors, the roof, the walls. [1:14:57, 1:15:01]: Um so you know there's there's a cost associated with that. [1:15:01, 1:15:03]: Um and then you know [1:15:03, 1:15:04]: Um [1:15:04, 1:15:06]: kind of the waterproofing of the building. [1:15:06, 1:15:10]: How we keep it safe from water coming inside. [1:15:10, 1:15:14]: Uh and then there's a big cost to the windows. We're showing a lot of windows, so [1:15:14, 1:15:20]: We can pick we can pick on we can start to pick on some of these components and reduce them, in other words. [1:15:21, 1:15:22]: To start bringing cost down. [1:15:23, 1:15:32]: So masonry is one place that we can do it. Windows is another place. Uh finishes are really all the things on the interior. So that's coming in at about uh, you know [1:15:33, 1:15:37]: one point four million. So we can pick on that number as well and kind of reduce it out. [1:15:38, 1:15:58]: Uh but this is where you see the cost. Um this large electrical cost at the bottom, um about half of that is just kind of the theater special features. So the rigging and the lights and the catwalks and all of those kind of things that uh are kind of what you have to have to have a functioning theater. Uh so that's the [1:15:58, 1:16:01]: reason for that kind of big number there. [1:16:02, 1:16:08]: Uh so all of that kind of har uh you know actual construction cost is about fourteen point nine. [1:16:08, 1:16:18]: And then you have uh the general conditions, the bonding, there's an escalation number in here because it's at least uh, you know, we're probably talking end of the year construction starting. [1:16:19, 1:16:19]: Um [1:16:20, 1:16:28]: So there's an escalation cost here, the you know, the contractor's fee, and then there is a design contingency. So we're just a concept. [1:16:28, 1:16:33]: Um and monies are gonna fluctuate or up and down budget. [1:16:34, 1:16:51]: as far as you know as things start to design, there might be some unforeseen costs. So this is a design contingency that as you move forward in the design will go away as we as unknowns are no longer existing. But there is a hold in number here uh for that kind of uh [1:16:52, 1:16:52]: Work. [1:16:53, 1:16:58]: Uh,'cause you don't wanna all of a sudden be over your budget again just because of that we're doing this cost at the beginning. [1:17:01, 1:17:14]: So uh we need to VE about six point four out of the project and that will start to reduce um the kind of back end cost as well, since those are percentages on top of the hard cost. [1:17:15, 1:17:16]: So [1:17:16, 1:17:34]: Uh item number one, there's two breakouts here. Um so this is kind of picking on some of the things that we can lose from the design and still have functionality. So one thing we can kind of either reduce or take take off is this front hood structure. So there's obviously a cost to that. It's beautiful. [1:17:34, 1:17:42]: Um, but we can, you know, take that out of the project. So that would be what you see here uh as one thing that we can lose from the building. [1:17:42, 1:17:45]: Um another thing we can start to lose is the masonry. [1:17:45, 1:17:47]: А со іт сюди. [1:17:47, 1:17:56]: I know it's wanted, but the first place we can pick on that is take it off the back of the building. Instead of doing brick on the back of the building, we can do uh a stucco. [1:17:56, 1:18:02]: uh or an EFIS, uh folks aren't gonna see the back of the building. So that's the first place we can kind of start to cut costs. [1:18:02, 1:18:13]: Uh the the next iteration of that is kind of to take all the brick off of the building uh and just do an ephus or a stucco instead of brick. So there's cost savings there. [1:18:13, 1:18:19]: Um a another one is to kind of start to take off some of the precast that you see wrapping around the bottom. [1:18:20, 1:18:22]: Uh that's another place you can save money. [1:18:22, 1:18:23]: Um [1:18:24, 1:18:41]: The item four here is there's, you know, this kind of beautiful double height space above uh the gallery in the museum. It is beautiful, uh, it makes it eight plus, but we can get rid of that space and save construction cost. Uh so that's another place we can start to save money. [1:18:41, 1:18:48]: Um and then it starts to get a little more drastic. We do start to lose start to lose some programming. Uh, but these are thoughts I want to put in front of you. [1:18:49, 1:18:52]: Um we can remove the gallery in the museum. [1:18:52, 1:19:11]: So right now in the plan, there's kind of sectioned off spaces for those. And then there is an open kind of gathering space. So we can basically combine those two spaces. So instead of having kind of an enclosed gallery, a museum, those kind of displays could happen in the kind of gathering waiting area. [1:19:11, 1:19:12]: for going into theater. [1:19:13, 1:19:15]: Uh, you can't section them off and secure them separately. [1:19:16, 1:19:19]: Um but you could still have display space and we can save some money. [1:19:20, 1:19:24]: quite a bit money of money by kind of removing that from the building. [1:19:25, 1:19:39]: Um so and Heather screw before you go on to next slide, could could you go back please? Yeah. I know it's a small uh cost here or you take away. Could you repeat what the water table seal, what what is that? What once what is that once again? [1:19:39, 1:19:57]: So yes, that is the kind of precast element around the bottom of the building. Uh you can't see it very well right now because we've vegetated it, but there's a basically a gray strip, uh if you can see in the background that goes around and it's a masonry piece. So we're talking about losing that from the building uh to kind of start to bring cost down. [1:19:57, 1:20:07]: Okay, now is that typically there to keep from water coming into the building or moisture? Is that what that does? Uh in the same no, it's really just an aesthetic uh preference. Um [1:20:07, 1:20:18]: the water resistance will happen behind uh those masonry pieces. So this would be removing some masonry and doing again uh more like a stucco finish. [1:20:19, 1:20:28]: Okay. And number four here, remove the double heights. Otherwise uh you would have a ceiling. Instead of double height, you how you the first floor would be sealed off and then you just have the second floor. Is that what you mean there? [1:20:29, 1:20:35]: It means we w the building would start to look different. So right now you have kind of a straight wall in front. [1:20:35, 1:20:38]: Uh that's creating a double height space above the gallery. [1:20:38, 1:20:46]: Uh so instead of a double height space above the gallery, we'd just have a single height space. So we basically lose wall wall construction. [1:20:46, 1:20:55]: uh that's making that grander and we'd bring it down. You'd still have a gallery, still have a museum, but it would just be a single story space instead of a two story space. [1:20:55, 1:21:01]: And when you talk about removing the gallery, that's the open space the open space when you come in gets smaller. Is that what you mean by that? [1:21:03, 1:21:11]: Yes. So these uh this is the gallery over here and this is the museum. So what I'm talking about here is that we actually [1:21:12, 1:21:20]: Take this space out. Uh, and the white space behind, as well as the main red space here, the entry space. [1:21:20, 1:21:32]: you would start to do displays and art in those areas to display the same things, but we're actually losing square footage from the building um to kind of reduce cost. That's what that one item is saying. [1:21:34, 1:21:35]: Okay, thank you. [1:21:36, 1:21:36]: Mm-hmm. [1:21:36, 1:21:38]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:21:38, 1:21:39]: Let's see. [1:21:39, 1:21:44]: I I I understand this is a certainly is a worthwhile exercise, but I think [1:21:44, 1:21:46]: Uh more in tune than anything else. [1:21:46, 1:21:58]: Um, I'm not I mean, if you take I I was certainly wouldn't even consider taking all the brick off the building and those kind of things. I mean, can we just kinda cut to the chase and just say, Well, maybe we'll [1:21:58, 1:22:00]: Reduce the size of the building. [1:22:00, 1:22:04]: But if we're gonna take away all of this, we're losing the whole building. [1:22:06, 1:22:22]: Well, okay. Uh the museum removing the museum were possible of course, uh we're do reducing the square footage, but I mean to produce the same product that we see and then reducing uh the actual size of the building would probably be something [1:22:22, 1:22:25]: Uh maybe you don't get three hundred seats. Maybe you get [1:22:25, 1:22:30]: two hundred seats uh you know, instead. But I would so much rather do that. [1:22:31, 1:22:34]: Then talk about uh changing the building in totality. [1:22:35, 1:22:37]: removing this uh you know the brick. [1:22:37, 1:22:40]: The design uh that we all love so much, so [1:22:40, 1:22:44]: Uh it that those that's my initial thoughts. But I certainly wouldn't want to [1:22:44, 1:22:47]: remove the brick and that kind of thing. [1:22:48, 1:22:49]: Oh mayor. [1:22:49, 1:22:50]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [1:22:51, 1:23:01]: Uh those are my sentiments exactly. I have to agree with Ms. Alexander. It's uh when when you when you look at uh and I don't know if the you're talking about stucco on the top of wood base. [1:23:02, 1:23:05]: Oh, you're talking about stucco plastering on top of concrete. [1:23:05, 1:23:08]: Um, but I know that when you start to [1:23:08, 1:23:18]: make the drastic changes that are being said here. It just changes the whole um vision of what what we wanted to see in a cultural art center. So [1:23:19, 1:23:26]: Um and I and I agree. We we just need to cut through the chase and say, Hey, do if we need to go back to the drawing board and and and [1:23:26, 1:23:41]: see how we can identify funding or however that needs to happen. But what's being described right now is is way off base on what we wanted to see in our city. We bringing up this beautiful amphitheater and we are looking at so many other things and to [1:23:42, 1:23:45]: have so much t and and here's and and here's something else to think about. [1:23:46, 1:23:56]: w uh we're we're not that far from a rock quarry. So who's to say that elevated costs are still gonna happen because you can hit rock. There's different type of equipment [1:23:56, 1:24:00]: Needed for digging for rocks. Who to say we're not gonna hit and we've all learned. [1:24:00, 1:24:03]: Uh, the hard way about unsuitable souls. [1:24:03, 1:24:07]: Uh, there's so many un unforeseen costs that could be [1:24:07, 1:24:08]: Interjected on top. [1:24:09, 1:24:10]: Oh what? [1:24:10, 1:24:12]: We're reducing two. [1:24:13, 1:24:14]: But when we [1:24:15, 1:24:16]: Those unforeseen costs. [1:24:17, 1:24:27]: elevate the cost that we're reducing too, we're still gonna be paying quite a bit of money if that happens. And we're still not getting what we really want to see. So I think that we need to um [1:24:28, 1:24:32]: We need to kind of you know, pump out breaks and say, Hey, how you know, how do we make [1:24:33, 1:24:36]: uh something happen that we really want to see in the city of Stockbridge. [1:24:37, 1:24:40]: Okay. Well my recommendation. [1:24:40, 1:24:51]: My recommendation and thoughts is allow Heather to at least go through the entire uh briefing as and and see what she's talking about and and have further discussion as we go through this briefing itself. [1:24:51, 1:24:53]: In this aspect. Mr. Nine, go ahead, sir. [1:24:53, 1:24:57]: No, I uh that's fine. I'll I'll reserve my comments until she finishes. [1:24:58, 1:24:59]: Sure. [1:24:59, 1:25:01]: Um so y you know. [1:25:01, 1:25:02]: I think um [1:25:03, 1:25:15]: I mean like council make all the decisions. Uh me as a a designer, it's just my job to kind of bring you these options so that you know we can get in the fourteen million uh if possible. [1:25:15, 1:25:28]: So um then it then things start to become a little bit more drastic. Um, you know, we can remove the balcony, uh, which deletes the elevator. Um, we do lose some seats in the theater, but there's cost savings with that. [1:25:28, 1:25:30]: Um, we can also remove the ballroom. [1:25:30, 1:25:35]: Um and there's you know some substantial cost savings there as well. [1:25:35, 1:25:49]: Uh another thing we can do on the site is delete the the the water feature out front. Uh there's a thought now that you are gonna have a splash pad potentially um near the amphitheater. So maybe that's not needed and that's a way we can cut out some cost. [1:25:50, 1:25:53]: Uh we could also change any kind of pavers on the site. [1:25:53, 1:25:55]: uh from paving to concrete. [1:25:55, 1:26:03]: Um and there's you know good savings there as well. Uh and then a couple of other thoughts about how to reduce costs. [1:26:03, 1:26:19]: Um we can there are a lot of windows. We're showing um some some very beautiful big windows. Those can, you know, as I mentioned, they're 1.5 million. So we can reduce a portion of those uh and save some money. And then also the last thing we can do. [1:26:20, 1:26:27]: is uh look at the finishes on the interior. So we have planned for some beautiful large pieces of tile on the floor. [1:26:27, 1:26:34]: um and you know things of that sort so we can you know pull some cost out of those finishes and say [1:26:34, 1:26:37]: But with all of these VE [1:26:37, 1:26:42]: We're gonna be about around three million. Now these are you know, um kind of uh [1:26:44, 1:26:51]: uh estimated numbers, but you know, we can pull about doing all of these about three million dollars out of the project. [1:26:56, 1:26:57]: What is that your last slide? [1:26:58, 1:27:01]: Uh yes, for the Cultural Arts Center. [1:27:01, 1:27:10]: Okay. All right. So additional c uh councilman Thomas, go ahead, sir. I see you're unmuted. Yeah, I I'm I'm just sort of having a problem with reducing [1:27:11, 1:27:15]: the ability for revenue um [1:27:16, 1:27:31]: gaining um having a little problem with that. But Mrs. Hubble, would you go back to the um you don't have to go back to the slide, but let's let's talk about the the demolition that you talked about. I know um that is I guess a [1:27:32, 1:27:35]: concrete slab on the ground. [1:27:36, 1:27:39]: Is that the demolition that you're talking about? [1:27:39, 1:27:48]: Um, so there are some structures on the front, uh, half of the site. And let me I think I believe I do have a site, uh yes. [1:27:49, 1:27:57]: Um so there are some uh structures down here and road components as well as um walls that all will have to be. [1:27:57, 1:28:00]: demolish, but there is also in that number [1:28:01, 1:28:05]: All of this site construction, and there's a lot of site construction here. [1:28:05, 1:28:19]: Um so you know, I do think that two point three-ish number is accurate for what it's gonna take on the site. We also have to get some utilities uh to this building. Uh so all of that's wrapped inside of that cost. [1:28:20, 1:28:20]: Yeah. [1:28:20, 1:28:21]: All right, thank you. [1:28:22, 1:28:23]: Okay. Here. [1:28:24, 1:28:31]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. I mean, yeah, real quick. And obviously, and you hear the sentiments of the council members with respect to some of the things being presented here. [1:28:32, 1:28:37]: One thing I'd mention is of course the the council approved fourteen million dollars for the cultural arts center. [1:28:38, 1:28:41]: And in order to meet that figure. [1:28:41, 1:28:45]: Um, this is the kind of exercise that needs to be undertaken. [1:28:45, 1:28:49]: Of course, if council is expressed, does not want to. [1:28:49, 1:29:00]: um make these drastic changes and may look at reducing the overall building itself and keeping all of the features or the balance of all of the features, then obviously that's something that can be [1:29:01, 1:29:07]: can be done, it would of course require some reductions in certain areas in terms of in square footage I'm talking about, the overall building. [1:29:08, 1:29:13]: in some of the meeting rooms and and maybe even theater and and ballroom and so forth. And so [1:29:14, 1:29:15]: Again this this [1:29:16, 1:29:22]: This discussion is necessary in order to get us to that place. Now, one thing that Heather did mention, of course, was [1:29:22, 1:29:29]: In the overall construction cost, there we placed in certain contingencies, soft cost furnishings. [1:29:29, 1:29:33]: Um, you know, an all in we're looking to try to get an all-in figure here. [1:29:34, 1:29:39]: For what it would take to actually um build, construct, furnish. [1:29:39, 1:29:43]: uh everything for the cultural arts center and again [1:29:43, 1:29:48]: You know, if the charge is to to make it fourteen million dollars, it's either [1:29:48, 1:29:56]: uh taking out some of the components or reducing uh the square footages overall for the building that would need to be done. [1:29:59, 1:30:13]: Okay, Mr. Knight, I just want to make note be known, you probably already know this along with the council that Mr. Peterson now is joined us. So if there are any questions or thoughts, I guess concerns uh for him and his his input of thoughts, uh he's online now. Um [1:30:14, 1:30:19]: Anybody any other council member? I thought I saw Councilman Gan. I thought I saw you unmuted earlier. [1:30:20, 1:30:22]: Uh so [1:30:22, 1:30:26]: Well no my I got booted out and I came back in. [1:30:26, 1:30:28]: Okay, all right. [1:30:28, 1:30:29]: No problem. [1:30:30, 1:30:32]: Anybody else? Any other thoughts, uh council members? [1:30:33, 1:30:34]: Lots of concerns. [1:30:35, 1:30:38]: So Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. One of the questions. [1:30:38, 1:30:39]: It's [1:30:39, 1:30:40]: Classrooms. [1:30:42, 1:30:44]: What were those supposed to be for? [1:30:45, 1:30:47]: I know it's been mentioned a few times. [1:30:48, 1:30:49]: What was the purpose of those classrooms? [1:30:51, 1:30:54]: So yes, uh there were and I can flip back to that slide. [1:30:54, 1:30:55]: Uh there were [1:30:55, 1:30:59]: Back in two thousand nineteen, uh, there were classrooms. [1:30:59, 1:31:08]: Um there were two art classrooms, one digital media classroom, and then there was a dance kind of uh [1:31:08, 1:31:10]: dance movement yoga kind of classroom. [1:31:11, 1:31:12]: Um in [1:31:12, 1:31:18]: Those were all taken out. Uh they're in green here. And then you can see that in the current program. [1:31:18, 1:31:30]: um the twenty twenty program, there are no classrooms. So uh those were deemed as being a less priority by the council. Um so the focus was really to be kept on [1:31:30, 1:31:31]: The фітер [1:31:32, 1:31:32]: Um [1:31:32, 1:31:34]: The museum [1:31:34, 1:31:40]: um the gallery and the ballroom. There is a kind of a practice flex room. [1:31:40, 1:31:48]: um in the program and it's this square room over here that is really needed uh for the functionality of the theater. [1:31:48, 1:31:49]: Um [1:31:50, 1:31:57]: And so it has been kept in the program, but that is the only kind of flex space that could be potentially used as a classroom. [1:31:57, 1:31:58]: Okay. [1:31:59, 1:32:00]: Um [1:32:01, 1:32:04]: So I I do support [1:32:05, 1:32:06]: Reducing. [1:32:06, 1:32:07]: Um [1:32:07, 1:32:08]: The square footage. [1:32:09, 1:32:10]: Of this entire project. [1:32:11, 1:32:12]: Um [1:32:13, 1:32:17]: Also, the water feature, I can support removing that as well. [1:32:18, 1:32:19]: Um [1:32:23, 1:32:25]: So but that's all I have. [1:32:26, 1:32:29]: Okay. Anybody else? [1:32:30, 1:32:31]: Thoughts or concerns. [1:32:34, 1:32:35]: Well, Mayor. [1:32:35, 1:32:37]: Yeah, go right in this guy. Thomas was [1:32:37, 1:32:41]: I would just want um councilwoman barber to know the reason why [1:32:42, 1:32:42]: Um [1:32:43, 1:32:55]: I don't know about the additional um the square footage was to make sure that we have professional shows that we're able to bring in shows that you can actually sell tickets for. [1:32:56, 1:32:58]: Some professional shows. [1:32:58, 1:33:00]: And we needed more seating for that. [1:33:00, 1:33:04]: We also because we no longer have the Ted Strickland. [1:33:05, 1:33:08]: Um needed another place for community gathering. [1:33:09, 1:33:12]: And so we we asked for a ballroom. [1:33:12, 1:33:14]: And some of those classrooms [1:33:14, 1:33:16]: The reason why we reduce that [1:33:17, 1:33:19]: Is because we are also [1:33:20, 1:33:22]: Planning on getting a community center. [1:33:23, 1:33:23]: So [1:33:24, 1:33:26]: You know, there can be classrooms in that. [1:33:27, 1:33:29]: But um I just wanted to kind of [1:33:29, 1:33:31]: You know, let me know what the thoughts were. [1:33:32, 1:33:37]: Um and why we why we are where we are right now. Now, me personally. [1:33:38, 1:33:39]: If we are spending [1:33:39, 1:33:40]: Um [1:33:40, 1:33:42]: Money on something. [1:33:42, 1:33:47]: I don't want us to just reduce things just to make it fit. I feel like [1:33:48, 1:33:52]: We we have this amphitheater that to me is best in show in Georgia. [1:33:53, 1:33:55]: And we would shortchange ourselves. [1:33:56, 1:34:04]: By you know, doing certain things. I think we need to think about, you know, go back not necessarily to the drawing board. [1:34:04, 1:34:16]: But look at our financials, look at our finances, look at other funding opportunities, um, and see what can be done to make sure that we have a a a nice theater. [1:34:19, 1:34:22]: Okay. Thank you. Councilman uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, sir. [1:34:23, 1:34:30]: Yeah, uh I I'm going to uh concur with those sentiments, Mrs. Gantt. I wanted to ask Mrs. Hubble uh incrementally. [1:34:31, 1:34:32]: If we reduced [1:34:33, 1:34:37]: uh say the theater and the ballroom [1:34:37, 1:34:42]: So it you know, if you start at uh fifty increments. [1:34:42, 1:34:44]: How how [1:34:45, 1:34:48]: How does that reduction calculate uh financially? [1:34:49, 1:34:53]: Um we we all know with with demural, I think it's [1:34:53, 1:34:54]: Mr. Nine is about [1:34:54, 1:34:55]: To aid it. [1:34:56, 1:35:04]: Uh we we get 300 in there uh all the time. And it you know, y'all know that the African American Heritage Celebration. [1:35:04, 1:35:06]: No, we were always um [1:35:06, 1:35:11]: You know, just I mean, folk just coming out of the workwork with that and that just one activity. [1:35:12, 1:35:15]: So when we're looking at revenues. [1:35:15, 1:35:17]: Um I'm I'm foreseeing [1:35:18, 1:35:20]: The uh the ballroom [1:35:20, 1:35:24]: in a a hot potato where you're gonna have [1:35:25, 1:35:30]: folks coming out of the woodwork trying to um rent that space. [1:35:30, 1:35:32]: Um so I see [1:35:33, 1:35:38]: you know, revenue coming back in and as Mrs. Gantt alluded to for the theater. [1:35:39, 1:35:42]: You know, there is no cultural. [1:35:42, 1:35:47]: type of activities that I know of. I I haven't heard anyone talk about [1:35:47, 1:35:51]: Going over to uh Clayton County or De Cab County. [1:35:52, 1:35:53]: Фо театр. [1:35:53, 1:35:54]: Um [1:35:55, 1:36:02]: I know we had the uh Academy Theater that was up in Hayville and I attended some of those and and uh it it [1:36:02, 1:36:08]: It it sold out pretty well. It w it was a small venue, but we're talking about [1:36:08, 1:36:10]: Bring in um [1:36:11, 1:36:13]: A total total new [1:36:14, 1:36:17]: um entity here uh in Stockbridge for us [1:36:18, 1:36:24]: uh the enrichments, you know, the the cultural activities and and and remember now. [1:36:24, 1:36:28]: Um when we start talking about youth development. [1:36:28, 1:36:44]: You know, we schools, uh, churches, nonprofits, um, all of those community uh engagement would just would just gather, would you know, this would just be a a magnet for all of those kind of activities. So [1:36:44, 1:36:47]: Um going back to Mrs. Gantt as far as let's [1:36:47, 1:36:50]: Trying to identify other funding sources. [1:36:51, 1:37:02]: Uh I I I I think that's where we probably need to try to go. I know it's hard. I know we have pretty much exhausted all of that already, but I just don't want us to lose sight of what this [1:37:02, 1:37:05]: А фасиліті рилі оферс. [1:37:05, 1:37:12]: not only did the Stockbridge community, but surrounding uh communities and cities. [1:37:12, 1:37:15]: Because we know at one point how the mirror manders [1:37:16, 1:37:18]: Always that that that [1:37:18, 1:37:21]: a facility that folks just wanted to rent it. [1:37:21, 1:37:26]: But now we you know, we it it it it lost some of its um glamour, if you will. [1:37:26, 1:37:30]: But this being a new facility, I just foresee folk would [1:37:30, 1:37:34]: We'll just be, you know, breaking our doors now to be able to rent this facility. [1:37:35, 1:37:38]: Especially the uh the the ballroom and [1:37:38, 1:37:41]: I can really see folks attending uh theater productions. [1:37:43, 1:37:46]: Right, sir. Anybody else? [1:37:46, 1:37:54]: Well, uh Mayor, i i if I may, I I wanted the reason I asked about Mr. Peterson is when I met with him uh recently. [1:37:54, 1:37:58]: We talked about um economic engines. [1:37:59, 1:38:02]: and uh cultural arts and if any of you are familiar with [1:38:03, 1:38:05]: The trend is this um [1:38:05, 1:38:19]: It's going nationwide, you know, that is a correlation between the arts and economic development. And I wanted um uh Mr. Peterson sort of to to speak on that because that sort of was a conversation that he and I had. [1:38:21, 1:38:22]: Uh Mr. Peterson, sir. There you go. [1:38:23, 1:38:42]: Can y'all see me and hear me now? Yes, sir. Go right in. All right. Great. I was I was listening on on Facebook Live. Thanks. Thank you, Councilmember, Councilman Thomas. Yeah, we spoke about this uh a few weeks ago. This uh we're using arts as economic development, as an economic development tool is something we can capitalize on. Um more specifically. [1:38:43, 1:38:44]: Uh Main Street. [1:38:44, 1:39:00]: as well and this falls in line right in line with the amphitheater. We can have um people rent this facility out. We can also have companies come in to to put on plays and this is just another tourism tool. So um I think it's a great project. [1:39:00, 1:39:07]: Um but I'll I'll sidetrack for a minute once we get the amphitheater up and and this and this going up. [1:39:07, 1:39:09]: Oh, we need some connectivity. [1:39:09, 1:39:19]: Um with these coming up, we're trying to attract restaurants to the Main Street area, our our downtown area. What we want is uh we want people. [1:39:20, 1:39:26]: to come to Stockbridge before a concert or before an event at the Cultural Arts Center. We want them to stay. [1:39:27, 1:39:28]: Uh go to that event. [1:39:28, 1:39:46]: um get something to eat after the event if they have it before the event. So we we want that downtown area to be an all-day attraction. Uh I love what I heard about the splash the splash pad uh with the amphitheater, but um arts as an economic development uh tool is [1:39:46, 1:39:55]: Is um something council member Thomas and I spoke about a few weeks ago and it and we're we're going in the right direction with this project and all of them because they're [1:39:55, 1:40:00]: They they all follow that that theme. We just need to work on the the connectivity aspect of it. [1:40:00, 1:40:01]: Um [1:40:01, 1:40:03]: And um I I think we are. [1:40:06, 1:40:26]: And thank you, thank you, Mr. Peterson. If I may just continue that train of thought, you know, we're looking at two anchors here, you know, the amphitheater on one end, the cultural arts on the other end, and all of this is in is is in in in walking distance. So we're talking about uh magnets that's going to spur. [1:40:25, 1:40:40]: development um on ML King, on uh Burke Street, uh across the street from the um Culture Arts on North Henry. So you're talking about something that's gonna spur [1:40:40, 1:40:48]: Growth, if you will. So we definitely need to be able to uh look at the cultural arts with a wide lens. [1:40:49, 1:40:51]: To see how this is going to spur. [1:40:52, 1:41:12]: uh our development because if we know when we talked about the aquatic center uh being located in that particular area, we we already know uh that that the aquatic center is going to be a magnet for all types of development. So and this is how we have to look at uh these these uh facilities. [1:41:12, 1:41:12]: Yeah. [1:41:13, 1:41:18]: Thank you, Mayor. Yield back to other uh councils comments. Okay, appreciate it. Thank you. [1:41:18, 1:41:20]: Uh Mayor Potem, Alexander, go ahead, sir. [1:41:20, 1:41:27]: Yes, sir. I think uh all of us are saying pretty much the same thing. We want quality. We don't want to sacrifice on the quality. [1:41:27, 1:41:28]: So I think um [1:41:29, 1:41:30]: I would make a suggestion that [1:41:31, 1:41:34]: uh TSW would go would uh bring us back. [1:41:34, 1:41:37]: Uh some renderings of a building. [1:41:37, 1:41:42]: Uh very similar to what we see uh with reduced [1:41:42, 1:41:55]: uh cost based on the square footage uh of the building, but not sacrificing the key elements that we see uh in this rendering and reduce the costs as much as they can. [1:41:55, 1:42:04]: It might not make it all the way down to 14 million, but at the same time, bring us back something similar to what we see uh in the renderings with some of the components. [1:42:05, 1:42:08]: Бунафиси [1:42:09, 1:42:12]: vision of what has been presented here. [1:42:13, 1:42:33]: May I suggest then that if that's the case, uh do we need to go back to all the things that she mentioned and get a consensus on all those items that you yeah, this I right. These two yeah, two slides like this that you you want certain things gone, certain things you don't want gone. So that help her in redesigning this and how small, how much short uh I guess if you're reducing the [1:42:33, 1:42:43]: the the the actual square footage, how how um how how much is that you need to take off? You still want to keep a theater, but how do you how do you uh do that and what do you cut back? So [1:42:44, 1:42:50]: I was just wondering whether or not we need to get it somewhat of consensus with these uh these items in front of us, if we were yay or nay with that or not. [1:42:51, 1:42:55]: I think it would be I think it would be helpful if we could just that's what I'm saying, if they [1:42:55, 1:42:57]: came back and showed us some pictures of what [1:42:57, 1:43:05]: removing these items look like, then that would be very helpful. But again, you know, we gotta make some of the tough choices. [1:43:05, 1:43:20]: Right, but I think all these items, I don't think there's a consensus for all these items to be gone. That's what I'm getting at as well. I mean uh just to make sure that she's she we lead her around the right direction. I think some items on here that you all as a collective group will want to keep still. [1:43:20, 1:43:22]: That's what I thought. Right. [1:43:23, 1:43:24]: So [1:43:24, 1:43:34]: So in in reference to uh well, uh Heather, if you don't mind, um so we got uh you got uh A one and A two, so [1:43:34, 1:43:37]: Um mayor, if you don't mind. Yeah, go ahead, sir. [1:43:38, 1:43:44]: Well well, Mayor, she's she's already given us a list of everything it would be to reduce. [1:43:45, 1:43:45]: The cause. [1:43:46, 1:43:48]: Um, and just my opinion. [1:43:49, 1:43:54]: Then give us a s uh give us something showing all those reductions that get us down to fourteen. [1:43:54, 1:43:55]: Million. [1:43:56, 1:44:02]: And then I think it'd be more advantageous for the the council to say what we want to add back because it also gives us a chance. [1:44:03, 1:44:05]: to sit back and try to figure out how we can [1:44:05, 1:44:14]: Funding on it by the time she brings it back, and we'll say, Hey, we've we've identified this funding, that funding, and now we can add this back and add that back. [1:44:15, 1:44:15]: But [1:44:16, 1:44:20]: The reducing the reducing the cost at this point hasn't changed. It won't change. [1:44:21, 1:44:41]: Well, I got it, but I guess what I'm getting at is that I've well, I think there's some items on here and maybe you know, that say like remove the gallery and museum. I uh do we have a consensus that that you want those items? It says three hundred thousand dollars, but I'm not sure if everybody's in agreement with removing the gallery and the museum itself. I wasn't sure if you're gonna go. Yeah, but mayor, but but but mayor, what I'm saying [1:44:40, 1:44:42]: What I'm saying is that the same thing is that I'm [1:44:43, 1:44:47]: At this point if we start to say, No, don't remove that, don't remove that. [1:44:47, 1:44:53]: Then before they get off this phone today, we may be past 14 million. We budgeted 14 million. [1:44:54, 1:45:00]: So let them bring us I just think it's if they could bring us something down on a reduction to fourteen million, let us then [1:45:00, 1:45:02]: Identify funding. [1:45:02, 1:45:08]: If we start to itemize what's not moving [1:45:09, 1:45:13]: gonna find ourselves on this phone going beyond the fourteen million. [1:45:15, 1:45:16]: Okay. [1:45:16, 1:45:17]: All right. [1:45:18, 1:45:30]: And if that's the case and all the things, I'm uh my my assumption is all the all the things that you see on these pages, just take all those things off and get get down to fourteen less than fourteen million or less and then bring back a product. [1:45:30, 1:45:37]: I mean that okay, Councilman Thomas, go ahead, you had your hand. I wanna ask Mrs. Hubble, w we didn't really talk about [1:45:38, 1:45:43]: Um landscaping, I don't believe, especially uh in the back. [1:45:44, 1:45:45]: Um [1:45:46, 1:45:48]: Shrubberies, plantains, greeneries. [1:45:49, 1:45:55]: Um and and those uh are any of those figures uh included in in in these numbers? [1:45:57, 1:46:06]: We've looked at hardscape, so a couple of hardscape reductions, but we can um go back and see kind of what we can reasonably pull out of the landscape. Yes. [1:46:06, 1:46:11]: Okay. And uh question for Mr. Knight. And um I know Mr. Wiggins was [1:46:11, 1:46:14]: Um going into the splash funding. [1:46:15, 1:46:19]: Um, so uh are there anything available where we can sort of [1:46:20, 1:46:21]: Um [1:46:21, 1:46:25]: subsidize uh uh any of this this cost. [1:46:25, 1:46:27]: Yeah, well, well. [1:46:27, 1:46:31]: Right. Uh you know, there may be a little bit, but r well, let me take that back. [1:46:32, 1:46:35]: Much of the splash funding was tied up in [1:46:35, 1:46:45]: the bonding that we were doing, which includes the fourteen million dollars for the Cultural Arts Center for civic projects. I think it was nine point [1:46:45, 1:46:50]: seven million dollars in splost five total for civic projects. [1:46:51, 1:46:53]: And much of that um [1:46:54, 1:46:56]: much of that, if not nearly all of it. [1:46:57, 1:47:01]: was designed I think we left a little bit, but was designed for the [1:47:02, 1:47:04]: pay back bonds on the um [1:47:04, 1:47:07]: Amphitheater and and the other items. [1:47:07, 1:47:08]: And so [1:47:08, 1:47:13]: You know, Splash five, you know, has pretty well been committed in the civic project area. [1:47:14, 1:47:21]: Um, you know, there could be some couple of other options if there's an in increase that we may anticipate in terms of [1:47:22, 1:47:27]: Uh fund balance for this year, uh, as we talked about on Monday, or I'm sorry, Wednesday. [1:47:28, 1:47:41]: and you know using some of those funds for capital projects. There probably may be a little bit of an opportunity as well in SWAST5 in terms of parks, parks and recreation. There may be a couple of things we can do there. [1:47:41, 1:47:51]: and supplementing um in those areas. Um, but you know, of course the ultimate determination is, you know, what the council wants to see. [1:47:52, 1:47:56]: Um with respect to the overall vision for the Cultural Arts Center. And I and I hear clearly that [1:47:57, 1:48:00]: You wanna make sure that this is a top notch building. [1:48:00, 1:48:01]: Meet your vision. [1:48:02, 1:48:06]: Um and you know, we're charged with bringing something back that may [1:48:06, 1:48:07]: Be a smaller footprint. [1:48:08, 1:48:13]: but still incorporates the vast majority of the components that have already been determined. [1:48:13, 1:48:17]: as being appropriate and needed in the cultural arts center. That's what I'm hearing. [1:48:18, 1:48:22]: Let me ask a hypothetical if I may, Mayor. Um [1:48:24, 1:48:26]: In our um [1:48:27, 1:48:29]: Твоті твенті чу. [1:48:29, 1:48:30]: Budget. [1:48:32, 1:48:32]: If [1:48:33, 1:48:37]: If that was a reduction or if that was a cut. [1:48:38, 1:48:41]: А на серпс осей один мільй. [1:48:41, 1:48:42]: Um [1:48:42, 1:48:44]: In that budget. [1:48:44, 1:48:46]: How would that [1:48:46, 1:48:49]: Fall into the calculation of [1:48:49, 1:48:51]: Everything that we're talking about here today. [1:48:53, 1:48:56]: And and as it relates to um [1:48:57, 1:48:57]: Uh [1:48:57, 1:49:05]: meeting the um binding payment, but just because you know what Mrs. Gantt sort of talked about other sources. [1:49:05, 1:49:09]: And I know, you know, last year when we talked about the budget. [1:49:09, 1:49:11]: You know, there were some [1:49:12, 1:49:23]: uh areas that we could reduce. And I personally I saw at least a million dollars myself. Now we didn't act on it, but uh I saw that uh myself. [1:49:23, 1:49:26]: And and things that I consider were just sort of just uh [1:49:26, 1:49:28]: uh waste but um [1:49:29, 1:49:37]: So I'm just sort of sort of trying to look, I'm trying to turn over some rocks here to try to see where uh some other fund is may may be able to come from. [1:49:40, 1:49:41]: All right. [1:49:42, 1:49:47]: Councilwoman uh Barber, I believe you had you you had a comment did you want to make earlier? [1:49:52, 1:49:54]: Yes, okay. So um [1:49:55, 1:50:00]: If we are to go through this list, um starting with number one A or number [1:50:01, 1:50:02]: Uh one B. [1:50:02, 1:50:05]: I don't want to completely remove the entry hood. [1:50:05, 1:50:06]: No. [1:50:08, 1:50:11]: I'd say reduce the depth of the entry hood. [1:50:11, 1:50:15]: Um and as far as number two A or two B. [1:50:17, 1:50:17]: Uh [1:50:19, 1:50:22]: I would say change the exterior skin. [1:50:22, 1:50:24]: of the building from brick to stucco. [1:50:25, 1:50:26]: But not the complete. [1:50:27, 1:50:27]: Building. [1:50:29, 1:50:29]: Um [1:50:30, 1:50:31]: Number three. [1:50:31, 1:50:32]: Um [1:50:34, 1:50:38]: I guess I I don't know exactly what a water table seal is. [1:50:38, 1:50:40]: If I could see a picture of it, then [1:50:41, 1:50:42]: Um maybe. [1:50:43, 1:50:49]: That's something we might want to keep, but I don't know what that is and what the purpose is. [1:50:49, 1:50:55]: Number four, remove the double height space at the galler gallery and museum. [1:50:56, 1:50:56]: Um [1:50:59, 1:51:01]: I kind of like that. [1:51:02, 1:51:03]: Pacher. [1:51:03, 1:51:04]: Um [1:51:04, 1:51:08]: But I want to keep the gallery and museum. [1:51:08, 1:51:10]: Even if we have to reduce [1:51:10, 1:51:12]: Um the size of it. [1:51:15, 1:51:17]: Um, I just don't want us to go. [1:51:18, 1:51:20]: over budgeted with this. [1:51:21, 1:51:23]: As we saw with the amphitheater. [1:51:23, 1:51:24]: Yes. [1:51:24, 1:51:25]: As much as we can. [1:51:26, 1:51:27]: Keep costs at a minimum. [1:51:28, 1:51:29]: I'm fine with it. [1:51:30, 1:51:30]: Yeah. [1:51:32, 1:51:52]: All right, but that's uh one council's thought process. Wasn't sure what the rest of the council thinks about those ideas on in reference to this reduction piece. That's what I was trying to get at before, whether or not uh we need to kind of go down that and get a consensus so we get an idea but uh of how to direct uh Hut Heather on doing this besides making a smaller uh smaller building. [1:51:52, 1:51:55]: and come back with smaller building there as well. But anyway. [1:51:56, 1:52:11]: Is there another page to this? Yes, there is a there's a second page. Well if I if I could respond to this page before you move, uh yes sir, go ahead, please. I think that's the question that you was asking. I was sir. Go ahead. [1:52:11, 1:52:26]: I think Mrs. Hubbard did indicate what the uh table seal was and I can sort of see it now on this rendering. So I'm in agreement with uh removing that. Uh but let me just say the the the gallery and the museum. [1:52:26, 1:52:31]: Uh, when you talking about uh what's going to drive folks [1:52:31, 1:52:33]: Ту десь фесиліті. [1:52:34, 1:52:37]: Those are two entities that there's definitely [1:52:37, 1:52:41]: It's going to drive and when we start talking tourism [1:52:41, 1:52:43]: When we start, you know. [1:52:43, 1:52:47]: uh propping up, you know, uh ML King Sr. [1:52:47, 1:53:07]: Um, you know, the these are going to be driving forces right here. So I just want to just throw that out. Uh, but I'm going to agree with some of the things that um uh councilwoman barber uh sort of mentioned. Uh and the table seal is one, the water feature would be one. Uh I do like the fact of the [1:53:07, 1:53:27]: uh the entryhood, I think that actually that attraction that actually makes makes this building. Um councilman Councilman uh Thomas, uh when you say entryhood you're talking about you want to reduce half of it or of course No no no I I would like it if that if that is the structure that I'm seeing right now that's on the front or the exterior [1:53:27, 1:53:28]: of this building. [1:53:29, 1:53:30]: Is that correct, Mr. Tuppel? [1:53:31, 1:53:32]: That's correct. [1:53:32, 1:53:35]: Okay. I mean that's that's the attraction that sort of [1:53:36, 1:53:38]: Just rhyme by looking at that. I mean, you know. [1:53:38, 1:53:43]: We are we are visionary and and and the public are visionary, so we sort of go on what we see. [1:53:44, 1:53:48]: Uh but I think that we could on the exterior, even though [1:53:49, 1:53:56]: Coming in, entering this facility from the Berk Street side, which is considered the back side. [1:53:57, 1:54:00]: Um, I I do think that we may can [1:54:00, 1:54:02]: uh reduce um [1:54:03, 1:54:04]: The look [1:54:04, 1:54:14]: on the back side, I think we probably can reduce some of the uh the landscaping and some of the shrubbery. We do have a public works department that actually could [1:54:14, 1:54:18]: could actually do some of this. You know, we do have um [1:54:18, 1:54:21]: uh a landscaping company that that could sort of [1:54:22, 1:54:28]: fill in in in some of these areas. And and some of this could be done even at a at a later time as far as uh planning. [1:54:29, 1:54:30]: And landscaping. [1:54:30, 1:54:34]: But I just think the uh the hardcore of the building itself. [1:54:35, 1:54:38]: Um and we can try to keep as much as we can, but [1:54:39, 1:54:55]: I you know, I do have an issue with uh diminishing the capacity of the theater and the ballroom, but if you know, if we have to do that, we just have to do that. But I just think that, you know, when we cut those, we also cut in revenue. I I just want to sort of throw that out. But [1:54:55, 1:54:58]: Um that's out of my my my two cents for for now. [1:54:59, 1:55:05]: Any uh uh comments about this slide, counsel. Any further comments at all before we move on? Yeah, go right in, sir. [1:55:05, 1:55:13]: I I agree with those assessments. Uh if you take away the hood on the building, you take away the building. We we can't do that. [1:55:13, 1:55:16]: And then again as was stated the [1:55:16, 1:55:21]: The uh back of the building may be stucco, but that still gives us the same look. [1:55:21, 1:55:23]: Uh which is up front. [1:55:24, 1:55:25]: And then uh [1:55:25, 1:55:28]: The double height, I certainly like that. [1:55:28, 1:55:30]: Uh and then again just to [1:55:30, 1:55:38]: uh the reduced size. I think again we would look for some additional fund. I would rather spend more money than to sacrifice the project. I just [1:55:38, 1:55:40]: In i in in cutting. [1:55:40, 1:55:44]: Maybe we don't get all like I said, I don't think we might be able to get all the way down. [1:55:44, 1:55:49]: to fourteen. So we may have to increase the budget uh somewhat, but I would rather do that. [1:55:49, 1:55:53]: Than to sacrifice the key elements on the build. [1:55:55, 1:55:58]: Okay, thank you. Any other comments about this particular slide? [1:55:59, 1:56:02]: And if not, go go could you go to the next slide, please, Heather? [1:56:04, 1:56:16]: Okay, what about this one? Thoughts about this slide and and what do you think you can you'd be live you'd like to reduce, follow follow those guidelines. What what uh you think you can uh help out and reduce the price. [1:56:18, 1:56:22]: Mayor. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Um Councilman Gantt, go ahead, please. Did I heard you? [1:56:22, 1:56:28]: That was not me. Well that was me. And that's what I was going to ask Mayor. Is if I if if um [1:56:28, 1:56:30]: Councilwoman Gantt or Blount. [1:56:31, 1:56:35]: We're going to chime in on the keeps and the removes from page one. [1:56:36, 1:56:42]: All right. I think they already did, I thought, but maybe not. Go ahead if you need to add something about this this particular page. [1:56:43, 1:56:43]: No. [1:56:45, 1:56:46]: Okay. [1:56:47, 1:56:52]: Okay, let's go. No, uh look for me, uh like I said before Mary's it's premature to act [1:56:52, 1:56:57]: to add uh what we want to keep or want because we've already said a budget. [1:56:57, 1:57:01]: And it makes to me it makes no sense to say what we want to keep. [1:57:02, 1:57:07]: Because we know the reductions that already been laid forth is what's gonna bring it below fourteen million. [1:57:08, 1:57:09]: So I mean [1:57:09, 1:57:10]: What's the purpose of saying, Hey? [1:57:11, 1:57:19]: Go ahead and give me go ahead and give me uh a few more thousand dollars back, uh a few hundred thousand dollars back on it right now, whatever. I think that's premature to say that now. [1:57:19, 1:57:20]: Right. [1:57:21, 1:57:24]: All right, I understand. Next next slide, please. Okay. [1:57:25, 1:57:30]: Thoughts and concerns here. Mayor. Yes, go right here, Mr. Thomas. I'm a castle. [1:57:31, 1:57:35]: I I I'm in favor of of moving the the elevator for sure. [1:57:36, 1:57:44]: Um, you know, we we we can walk up some some some stairs if if we have to. Uh I'm not sure about the the the balcony. [1:57:44, 1:57:45]: Um [1:57:46, 1:57:48]: I think we can uh delete the water feature. [1:57:50, 1:57:50]: Um [1:57:51, 1:57:55]: I know uh Mayor Pro Tem Alexander love uh [1:57:55, 1:57:56]: Pavers [1:57:56, 1:58:01]: Um I don't know how the concrete sidewalk will look. Um [1:58:02, 1:58:06]: Um, you know, maybe even you know, reducing some of the windows even [1:58:07, 1:58:08]: Um [1:58:08, 1:58:15]: I don't I'm not sure what reduced finishes, I'm not sure what that is. I know it's 250,000 on the right end. [1:58:16, 1:58:17]: Um [1:58:17, 1:58:31]: But you know, that's that's that's some of my take. But I I I'm in agreement with with Mayor Pro Tem. We're talking about getting this down uh to to fourteen. I know I think uh Mrs. Hubble said that we had to trim [1:58:32, 1:58:35]: Was it six million or three million that we needed to trim? [1:58:36, 1:58:37]: We need to trim about six million. [1:58:38, 1:58:52]: Okay. Um so these are imprecise calculations. So based on this feedback, we'll take the building and reduce it and then we're gonna reprice it. Uh and see it's it's an exercise of getting it to within that. [1:58:52, 1:58:53]: Legend. [1:58:53, 1:58:57]: So ev even if we uh concretely sort of [1:58:57, 1:59:07]: software we could actually, you know, reduce three million and then look for some other sources. Uh I I'm all in favor of that. Um [1:59:07, 1:59:23]: I I I I think we're gonna have to, you know, continue to work, but uh I I just think there are some fundings uh out there, funding sources is out there. I think we just gonna have to work a little harder to to try to make this happen because I think in the long run. [1:59:23, 1:59:28]: Uh I think we'll be able to realize the benefits of [1:59:29, 1:59:41]: uh this entity being in the city of Starkman when when all of the attractions start coming toward this this building uh as a magnet, I think we're going to realize [1:59:41, 1:59:43]: Uh is worth [1:59:43, 1:59:44]: Um [1:59:44, 1:59:47]: financially and and and otherwise so [1:59:48, 1:59:51]: Um, you know, we we have our work cut out for us, but [1:59:51, 2:00:04]: Uh I just say let's keep let's keep digging and look for some funding source, see where we can um, you know, find some other funding. But I think legitimately we may be able to trim two to three million off that six for sure. [2:00:05, 2:00:22]: Councilman Thomas, I want to mention this. You talk about getting rid of the uh the elevator. I guess my concern is we need to probably have the building somewhat handicapped accessible. So if if if if we take out an elevator, how do you get people Well that's I I didn't I didn't think of that, but you're correct. You're correct. [2:00:22, 2:00:26]: If if I can respond to that, um let me show you that piece. [2:00:27, 2:00:27]: So [2:00:28, 2:00:28]: Um [2:00:30, 2:00:33]: Uh we do have a commercial elevator. [2:00:34, 2:00:35]: Okay. [2:00:36, 2:00:36]: Um [2:00:37, 2:00:44]: It is right here in the in the project. Uh so that is your kind of ADA accessibility to the second floor. [2:00:44, 2:00:45]: Um [2:00:45, 2:00:47]: For the balcony itself. [2:00:48, 2:00:55]: Um, you actually have to have ADA access to that balcony. So there is a small, you'll see the small blue elevator right here. [2:00:55, 2:01:08]: Uh it's a lighter grade elevator. Uh those have been acceptable for kind of ADA access just to this balcony. So those two things go together, the balcony and that elevator uh in that one item. [2:01:09, 2:01:11]: So it'd be removing both of those. [2:01:11, 2:01:15]: Well let me ask what what's what's the seating numbers uh in the balcony? [2:01:16, 2:01:22]: Sure, there's eighty seats currently in the balcony. So you'd be reducing the theater down to um [2:01:23, 2:01:24]: Two hundred and forty one. [2:01:25, 2:01:27]: All right. Yeah. All right. Thank you. [2:01:28, 2:01:38]: Okay, so make sure I understand if we if we take out the if we take out this elevator, you're talking about those two elevat I thought you said okay, surface elevator r would remain, correct? [2:01:39, 2:01:42]: And then this other elevator that's off the balcony. [2:01:42, 2:01:57]: Would also remain or not? Make sure I understand. So the in that line item, what is being removed is this balcony and this elevator that serves the balcony. So the the commercial elevator that is for the rest of the building would stay. [2:01:57, 2:02:00]: Okay, got it now. Okay, understand. Appreciate it. Thank you. [2:02:01, 2:02:03]: Yeah, could you go back to the previous slide, please? [2:02:03, 2:02:03]: Mm. [2:02:05, 2:02:08]: There we there we go. Okay. Any other comments on this slide, Council? [2:02:09, 2:02:11]: Uh Ms uh Mr Mayor. Yeah, go ahead, sir. [2:02:11, 2:02:20]: Mr. Knight currently Henry County is looking at C D B G right now. So I had a presentation. What what is what is um [2:02:20, 2:02:23]: The city is entitled to for this present cycle. [2:02:24, 2:02:29]: Uh well, I think it's a couple of hundred thousand dollars, maybe a little bit more. [2:02:29, 2:02:32]: That we're entitled to in this ki cycle. I I I [2:02:35, 2:02:36]: I think honestly that [2:02:37, 2:02:37]: Um [2:02:39, 2:02:43]: We can bring back a reduced square footage of the [2:02:43, 2:02:45]: Of the building itself. [2:02:45, 2:02:48]: And let the council know what that looks like. [2:02:48, 2:02:50]: And um and being determined. [2:02:51, 2:02:53]: You know what you want to uh [2:02:53, 2:02:57]: maintain or keep and then look at any additions that need to be made. [2:02:58, 2:03:01]: Um, I think that that probably is the most prudent thing to do. [2:03:02, 2:03:07]: Um in in the meantime, of course, look at uh other available funding sources, of course. [2:03:07, 2:03:08]: Um [2:03:08, 2:03:12]: You know, I think what again what I'm hearing is trying to maintain [2:03:13, 2:03:18]: the vision that you that you as council members want and and want to see for the cultural arts center. [2:03:19, 2:03:25]: And making sure that it creates the environment for economic development opportunities for people to be able to come here. [2:03:26, 2:03:30]: And the residual impacts, it's always the residual impacts. [2:03:30, 2:03:35]: of the type of building that you that you that you um ultimately construct. Residual impacts meaning. [2:03:36, 2:03:37]: The additional um [2:03:38, 2:03:41]: Investments that private sector entities will take a look at. [2:03:41, 2:03:43]: Афо, Ситті о Stockbridge. [2:03:44, 2:03:48]: What businesses that will emerge as a result of a cultural arts center being [2:03:49, 2:03:51]: And those benefits that come along. [2:03:51, 2:03:52]: Um to the city. [2:03:53, 2:03:57]: Um and then of course the the quality of life um [2:03:57, 2:04:02]: offerings that would be in the cultural arts center is as some have have mentioned that are currently not [2:04:02, 2:04:08]: provided here and and there's no there's no cost that you can affix to that in terms of how it enhances [2:04:09, 2:04:10]: A community. [2:04:10, 2:04:14]: Um obviously we're looking at these hard costs, but um you know there are other [2:04:14, 2:04:15]: Спілвер [2:04:15, 2:04:19]: Residual impacts that that can be ver very, very positive for [2:04:20, 2:04:22]: A venue suchazis and so. [2:04:22, 2:04:23]: You know, uh [2:04:24, 2:04:28]: Trying to make some reductions in terms of overall square footage and maintaining all of the [2:04:29, 2:04:33]: Um different components, I think, is what I'm hearing the council. [2:04:33, 2:04:34]: Wants to do. [2:04:35, 2:04:38]: And and so we'll we'll take a look at it take a look at doing that. [2:04:40, 2:04:44]: May Mayor, if I may, and go ahead, please. Mr. Knight can check on this. [2:04:44, 2:04:48]: I'm not sure if uh block grant funds [2:04:48, 2:04:53]: will be eligible for this bill or this location. [2:04:53, 2:04:57]: Uh, you know, as we know those funds are sort of geared for [2:04:57, 2:05:14]: uh low income uh communities but mr nine you can check on that yeah and and and a lot of infrastructure some infrastructure items that we've we've done as well but we'll we'll take a look at some available or other options funding options that might be applicable to the to this uh project [2:05:16, 2:05:22]: Okay. Uh Mayor Potem, you're unmuted. I don't know if did you need something else you need to say or No, no, I'm sorry. [2:05:22, 2:05:32]: That's quite right, quite alright. Uh anybody else? Uh any other council member comments about this? Okay, Councilman Barber, go ahead. Councilman Councilwoman Barber. I'm sorry, go ahead, please. [2:05:32, 2:05:35]: Yes, um Miss Hubber. [2:05:35, 2:05:37]: Okay, so I'm gonna try to explain this. [2:05:38, 2:05:41]: So you know, in in lieu of an elevator. [2:05:41, 2:05:44]: You know how there may be a slope. [2:05:44, 2:05:47]: That will take you to the next level. [2:05:48, 2:05:50]: Would that be more costly if it [2:05:51, 2:05:53]: Would that be more cost efficient than an elevator? [2:05:55, 2:06:07]: Um unfortunately, no. Uh it it would be a very, very, very long ramp. Um, it would take a lot of space. So elevator is the way to go. Um now one thing that we [2:06:07, 2:06:08]: Could do. [2:06:08, 2:06:11]: Is look at a scheme that is all one level. [2:06:12, 2:06:19]: Um, it would start to look like the Southwestern Arts Center that I think um a couple of the council members toured. [2:06:19, 2:06:20]: uh a while back. [2:06:21, 2:06:25]: uh where you would see actually the benefit of a two story building. [2:06:27, 2:06:30]: Uh a couple of benefits is that it's compact. [2:06:30, 2:06:33]: on the site so we can get them out of parking we need. [2:06:34, 2:06:42]: Um but it's also it hides the large space of the theater. Uh so when you go to a single story building. [2:06:42, 2:06:52]: you'll see kind of like a wrapped ribbon building and then you'll see this pop up in the background that's actually the theater itself. So if you're familiar with the with the southwestern [2:06:52, 2:06:53]: Um [2:06:53, 2:06:54]: Art Center. [2:06:54, 2:06:57]: Not. Not. Where is it? [2:06:58, 2:06:58]: No. [2:07:00, 2:07:16]: So it's uh it's southwest of Atlanta proper. Um if you Google it you can see it. Um they they basically um have kind of these strip gallery spaces around the bottom and then you see the large theater space in the background and I think they've [2:07:16, 2:07:23]: They put a stucco on it and they've done some decorating to it, but um it it's not rightly attractive. [2:07:25, 2:07:30]: But it is uh, you know, value engineered, right?'Cause you don't need that elevator. [2:07:31, 2:07:32]: Okay. [2:07:32, 2:07:33]: Thank you for that. [2:07:34, 2:07:40]: I would generally say is, you know, but uh that's not gonna make or break the project. And then I would wanna do [2:07:41, 2:07:49]: Uh do it right. I mean, this$118,000, ADA compliant. I would rather keep the elevator than go in that other direction. So [2:07:50, 2:07:55]: I I just think that's kind of where we are right now. The em if you ask me, I just would not want to do that. [2:07:57, 2:08:06]: Okay, anybody else? Councilman Thomas, you're unmuted, sir. Did you have I just want to ask Mr. Knighton, uh is there any wiggle room? Let me under underline wiggle. [2:08:07, 2:08:10]: uh room to bar against [2:08:10, 2:08:13]: uh in the uh the the sparse. [2:08:16, 2:08:28]: Um there is a component in the SPOS to bring items forward to bond projects, part of which which is part of what we're doing. Um in terms of SPLOST five. Um, you know, the [2:08:29, 2:08:39]: There there may be some room. There probably is some room, some room in splot five. I think we were, if I remember right, I think we were we were leaving a little bit. [2:08:39, 2:08:43]: Um for the civic for civic projects, but the bulk of it. [2:08:43, 2:08:51]: Um is coming out for the bond issuance. There may be, I have to remember, I have to look back, maybe a million dollars or so. [2:08:51, 2:08:55]: Something like that, um, in civic civic buildings that we kept out. [2:08:56, 2:08:57]: But um [2:08:57, 2:09:00]: You know, uh we'll we'll continue to look at [2:09:00, 2:09:04]: current um the funding sources that we have uh to be able to [2:09:05, 2:09:11]: Determine what needs to be done. I think the main thing is to try to make the reductions that council has mentioned. [2:09:11, 2:09:19]: And bring that back to you, see what that cost is. And then if there is something that um meets your consensus. [2:09:19, 2:09:25]: And you know, it may be a little bit more than fourteen million, for instance. We'll know how we need to address it at that point. [2:09:26, 2:09:31]: If it's if it's, you know, within 14 million, then we know, but if it's more than that, we'll see how much more. [2:09:31, 2:09:35]: Um, and then be able to address it from a financial standpoint. [2:09:38, 2:09:40]: Okay. Any other comments, Council? [2:09:43, 2:09:45]: Anybody else? [2:09:45, 2:10:00]: All right, Heather, I guess that is it or comments. I guess you have a good idea how to adjust this smaller building, some of those reductions and come back and uh see what we have and further discussion on this um in this aspect. [2:10:01, 2:10:04]: Anything else with your briefing, ma'am, that you need to talk about? [2:10:04, 2:10:10]: Sure. Um I do have an update to the Youth and Senior Center if you'd like to see that. Absolutely. Go ahead, please. [2:10:15, 2:10:24]: Um so in two thousand, um was asked to do a kind of quick concept of what a youth and senior center might be. Um it [2:10:24, 2:10:30]: contained a gymnasium, locker room, small office, a couple of classrooms and a community room. [2:10:31, 2:10:38]: Um I presented to uh the council and um there was a quest to add to that program uh indoor pool. [2:10:39, 2:10:40]: Aerobics. [2:10:40, 2:10:42]: uh fitness, um [2:10:42, 2:10:44]: You know, items of that sort. So [2:10:44, 2:10:46]: And we went back to the drawing room. [2:10:46, 2:10:47]: Or drawing board. [2:10:48, 2:10:53]: Oh well let me talk about this real first. So this concept that was done, we gave uh [2:10:53, 2:10:57]: Rough order of magnitude between about ten million and twenty million. [2:10:58, 2:11:01]: So I wanted to give that a small piece of [2:11:02, 2:11:05]: um information. So we did go back to the drawing board. [2:11:06, 2:11:09]: uh to kind of come up with a building that had um all of the [2:11:10, 2:11:17]: program request from the council. So in um the building increased uh in square footage and it also went two stories. So [2:11:17, 2:11:23]: just to walk you through uh what this looks like. Uh we do have a full size gymnasium still in the program. [2:11:24, 2:11:28]: We also added a swim center. Um the swimming pool is um [2:11:28, 2:11:35]: College length. I think it actually meets um Olympic standard length for short swims. [2:11:36, 2:11:44]: Um, it also has uh locker rooms that are associated to support that swim center. So the big two kind of double height uh [2:11:45, 2:11:51]: pieces of program or kind of bookended on each side of the plan. And there's a kind of a central [2:11:51, 2:12:00]: um commons area or access line um that connects these two large pieces of program and then everything starts to function around them. [2:12:01, 2:12:09]: Um so on the right side is kind of the back of the site and then the the left side of the plan um is the f the front street. [2:12:09, 2:12:10]: Access. [2:12:11, 2:12:15]: Uh so parking is around the back of the building. Um so [2:12:15, 2:12:16]: Uh [2:12:16, 2:12:20]: Folks who are uh driving will more likely come in this back set of doors. [2:12:21, 2:12:28]: There is a cafe space and lounge over to the right side, as well as kind of the office space here in purple. [2:12:28, 2:12:35]: Um there, you know, there is a cafe bar um where uh snacks and health drinks could be served. [2:12:35, 2:12:40]: Um there's also one elevator here uh kind of right after the entry. [2:12:41, 2:12:46]: Um and the front of the plan is a community room. [2:12:47, 2:12:51]: Um that can be rented out or have activities in it. [2:12:51, 2:12:55]: Um and from there you can um go up a set of stairs. [2:12:55, 2:12:57]: А то секід флор. [2:12:57, 2:12:59]: Um which does have uh your fitness room. [2:13:00, 2:13:08]: Um, over here, and there would be windows to the outside. So people on treadmills or ellipticals could see out. There's also space for weight. [2:13:09, 2:13:22]: um and other um kind of uh training devices or equipment. There are two studio spaces. Uh there's one here at the top of the plan and then one here at the bottom that could overlook uh the pool space below. [2:13:22, 2:13:24]: There's a smaller set of bathrooms. [2:13:25, 2:13:28]: Up here, as well as two classrooms that were. [2:13:28, 2:13:29]: Asked for. [2:13:29, 2:13:33]: Um there is an outside terrace space as well in this plan. [2:13:33, 2:13:40]: The thought is this is that those classrooms can open out to the space. So if you want to do some sort of outdoor yoga. [2:13:40, 2:13:51]: or class of that sort or even a meditation sort of class that could be done on kind of in one of these classrooms and then outside on the terrace as kind of functionality. And that terrace is covered. [2:13:52, 2:13:57]: Um there's also a suspended walking track that was talked about. You can see it here in yellow. [2:13:58, 2:14:10]: It is connected to this white common space so that there could be even an extended walking path that came not only around inside, but it could come out and around the stair and back. [2:14:11, 2:14:23]: Um, so square footage increased, this is sitting at um uh 58,000 square feet in total. You can see that list out here uh to the right of the page and how that all works out. [2:14:24, 2:14:25]: Um [2:14:25, 2:14:33]: I I did produce kind of three different renderings of this. Um, this plan is a little bit different from um [2:14:33, 2:14:37]: A lot of buildings, a lot of buildings hold the corners tightly. [2:14:37, 2:14:49]: this building sitting across from some single family home. So we've chosen to kind of pull the corner back away from the intersection and create, you know, kind of a a nice plaza in front. We could have [2:14:50, 2:14:57]: um community art here. It also could be functional art. Some of the training equipment looks very sculptural and beautiful. [2:14:57, 2:15:06]: Um, I'm thinking of there's a four-sided kind of seesaw component that both adults and kids like, that could be something that could be pos positioned here. [2:15:07, 2:15:12]: Um, so you see this kind of community room has been given prominence up front. Um, there can be signage. [2:15:13, 2:15:14]: uh placed on that volume. [2:15:15, 2:15:24]: Up above you see the kind of outdoor terrace that could be outdoor uh yoga and stretching and things like that uh attached to those classrooms. [2:15:25, 2:15:31]: Um there here's that kind of spine space that's accentuated on the outside and how that kind of will welcome you in. [2:15:32, 2:15:39]: And then the two large volumes of uh both the gym on the left side and the pool on the right side. [2:15:40, 2:15:44]: Um this is kind of a cont a very contemporary expression. [2:15:44, 2:15:45]: Um [2:15:45, 2:15:46]: The second [2:15:46, 2:15:51]: uh rendering softens it by kind of showing you that structure that's holding it up. [2:15:51, 2:16:01]: And then the last one kind of takes it back to a little bit more traditional aesthetic with very structure and kind of reducing that hood element. [2:16:01, 2:16:05]: Um so these are the three aesthetics uh that were um [2:16:06, 2:16:07]: Produced [2:16:08, 2:16:13]: Uh and then cost. So we have come up in square footage, square footage equals coming up in cost. [2:16:14, 2:16:21]: Uh so redoing all that cost, this now comes between about 27 million and 35 million. [2:16:22, 2:16:28]: Um there is escalation. Uh you know, if I believe this would be at least four years out in the future. [2:16:29, 2:16:29]: Uh [2:16:30, 2:16:38]: Potentially, so there is escalation built into that number, and you're kind of seeing that about two percent escalation per year for construction. [2:16:41, 2:16:41]: Okay. [2:16:43, 2:16:44]: Well, thank you very much. Um [2:16:46, 2:16:55]: And maybe I missed something here and I guess uh to Mr. Nighting or the Council, uh the budgeted amount that we agreed to for this was what? [2:16:55, 2:17:02]: We did not agree to a budgeted amount for this uh facility. This is something that the council charged us to take a look at. [2:17:03, 2:17:08]: This is just the next iteration of that. I think that this is something um that um [2:17:09, 2:17:10]: We hold [2:17:10, 2:17:16]: Um and know that uh it's out there, it's been discussed and something that we can [2:17:16, 2:17:18]: Address more definitively. [2:17:19, 2:17:23]: Um as the other civic projects uh unfold and uh are completed. [2:17:24, 2:17:28]: Um that's my thought. Obviously we follow the council's direction. [2:17:28, 2:17:45]: But when we were charged to take a look at this, this is what was first developed and then the second iteration of it. And now we're looking at what would be, I guess, the third iteration or understanding of what that could look like in the future. [2:17:46, 2:17:50]: Okay. Food with thought I guess to the council would be uh [2:17:50, 2:18:10]: Youth and senior center, do we still want a pool here, even though we know that there is going to be a pool that's going to be at the more southern part of Stockbridge? I mean some distance obviously from this immediate location. That's just kind of curiosity question, actually. It's always good to be self-contained, but uh just wondering what your thoughts may be. Anyone on [2:18:10, 2:18:11]: Yeah. [2:18:14, 2:18:17]: Anybody else? Any thoughts at all about the project this particular project? [2:18:21, 2:18:28]: Yes, sir. Uh all right, please. And turn uh obviously this was the wish list of everything that we wanted. [2:18:29, 2:18:37]: Uh to see in these in this element. Uh the community is deserving of a project like this. I'm not sure whether or not uh [2:18:37, 2:18:43]: Again, that budgetary number is i is ri wow. It's uh near thirty million dollars. [2:18:43, 2:18:45]: For the facility. [2:18:45, 2:18:49]: You know, maybe uh there's some uh partners out there who might be willing to. [2:18:50, 2:18:52]: uh come to the county or enter the county. [2:18:53, 2:18:55]: And those are the discussions that we might be able to have. [2:18:56, 2:18:57]: Uh down the line. [2:18:57, 2:19:05]: But I I do think it's worthwhile to have two pools uh in certain in the city, not just depending upon one. [2:19:05, 2:19:08]: But uh the size and scope of the project uh [2:19:08, 2:19:13]: Obviously this is again a dream wish list of what we were like in the project. [2:19:13, 2:19:15]: But in the end uh we [2:19:15, 2:19:17]: Have to uh know what we can actually afford. [2:19:18, 2:19:20]: budgetary wise. So [2:19:20, 2:19:27]: Uh maybe that's again, maybe around around fourteen to twenty instead of thir uh instead of thirty million. [2:19:27, 2:19:29]: Because when we do the project. [2:19:29, 2:19:32]: Uh, we want to do it right, and we do understand. [2:19:32, 2:19:35]: Uh, this is going to be a little ways out, so it might be [2:19:36, 2:19:37]: Uh possibly. [2:19:37, 2:19:40]: uh financed on the next flocks so [2:19:40, 2:19:41]: If you have um [2:19:42, 2:19:44]: Unable to do that on the next flask. [2:19:45, 2:19:53]: Uh it uh fifteen or twenty million dollars is certainly not out of the question, but the financing would be the be the key element. But in the end, [2:19:54, 2:19:59]: the community is deserving of this project. It's just whether or not uh how we would be able to pay for it. [2:20:02, 2:20:06]: Councilman Thomas Gray, please. I I I do just want to add that [2:20:07, 2:20:10]: This facility and this neighborhood. [2:20:10, 2:20:15]: uh would be no doubt eligible for those block grant fund. [2:20:16, 2:20:19]: So Mr. Nine, I I think we probably need to [2:20:19, 2:20:23]: uh start now looking into that and I don't know what um [2:20:24, 2:20:25]: Intervals [2:20:25, 2:20:37]: uh or you know yearly uh or you know that we can actually apply for those funds. But uh without a doubt, this this community will be eligible for those block grant funds. [2:20:40, 2:20:42]: Any other council members comments? [2:20:43, 2:20:44]: Questions, concerns at all. [2:20:46, 2:20:48]: Council Councilwoman Barber, go ahead, please. [2:20:49, 2:20:53]: So yeah, I do support a youth and senior center. [2:20:53, 2:20:54]: Um [2:20:54, 2:21:00]: And Mayor Pro Tem did mention about partnerships. I think that will be important for us. [2:21:00, 2:21:01]: Um [2:21:01, 2:21:07]: And I'm glad Councilman Thomas mentioned about the CDBG eligibility. [2:21:08, 2:21:10]: to help fund this. So [2:21:12, 2:21:14]: Yeah. Thank you. All right. [2:21:15, 2:21:16]: Anybody else? [2:21:17, 2:21:19]: Yeah, Mayor. We've got right here, Catherine Blood. [2:21:20, 2:21:40]: Yeah, I I think that um and I, you know, I I definitely concur with quite a bit that's been said. I think that once we get this amphitheater up and going and we really bring some recognition to the city of Stockbridge and people come and start to visit and see the put so much potential and so much uh vibrancy in in in the community that they w wanna [2:21:40, 2:21:55]: to come and invest. And I think the anchor to all of this would be the uh well once we get this amp amphitheater up, uh for those people come in and invest, then it would definitely make our uh economic development director job a lot easier. Um but I think that those would [2:21:56, 2:21:59]: That would bring investors into the city. So I think that [2:21:59, 2:22:01]: You know, um [2:22:02, 2:22:03]: Time [2:22:03, 2:22:12]: Time for the city is gonna tell the tale on uh future growth when it comes to funding and all of these things. And I and I commend the council for [2:22:12, 2:22:31]: uh looking at how we would go about doing these things because if we could do them right now I'm pretty sure we all would uh go ahead and jump on those uh opportunities and and just make uh Stockbridge a more livable and fun place to live for our citizens. But I think that we we we all recognize that we have to identify [2:22:31, 2:22:38]: uh the fund is to make all of this stuff uh that we want for the city and the city needs and that would enhance the city come to fruition. So [2:22:39, 2:22:40]: Um, that's my two cents. [2:22:42, 2:22:44]: Appreciate it. Good. Anybody else? [2:22:45, 2:22:55]: Alrighty. See nothing else. Okay. Well Heather, thank you for the brief. Um anything else you need to add? Okay, that's the anything else you need to add. [2:22:56, 2:22:59]: Thank uh just thank you for your time this morning. [2:22:59, 2:23:02]: Um and I look forward to continue to working with you. [2:23:02, 2:23:07]: Good deal. Appreciate it. [2:23:08, 2:23:09]: Uh to Hitler while we're looking. [2:23:10, 2:23:12]: This is this modern look. [2:23:12, 2:23:17]: With the with the short setback is exactly what we implemented on the highway one thirty eight. [2:23:18, 2:23:20]: uh overlay. And that was something that we wanted to [2:23:21, 2:23:23]: To move forward uh with is making sure that [2:23:24, 2:23:27]: Uh, this is something that we gave it a more modern and [2:23:27, 2:23:28]: City Field with the setbacks. [2:23:29, 2:23:31]: Well, the parking was in the rear. [2:23:31, 2:23:33]: uh of the building. So this is in line with [2:23:34, 2:23:37]: uh what we want to do with uh most projects coming forward. [2:23:40, 2:23:41]: All right. Sounds good. [2:23:41, 2:23:42]: Right. [2:23:42, 2:23:47]: All right, thank you, Heather, for your time. Appreciate it. And I know we'll continue to work together to get these things done. [2:23:47, 2:23:50]: Thank you. Take care of yourself now. Bye bye. [2:23:51, 2:24:08]: Mr. Knighton, uh we're behind schedule, but I know you have a T C Plus uh discussion. Well, let me let me do this and I may offer this to the council. I think the information on T S Plus I could probably send to the Council uh via email. I know that um there are a couple of things that uh probably need some attention. [2:24:08, 2:24:13]: um in executive uh session. There's actually one other item I need to let the council know about. [2:24:14, 2:24:16]: It should only take a few minutes in executive session, but [2:24:17, 2:24:17]: Um [2:24:18, 2:24:23]: Um I'm I'm willing to forego that given the time and I believe some time constraints that may be present. [2:24:23, 2:24:27]: Um so uh I can I could probably communicate that via [2:24:27, 2:24:34]: um via email. There is a a joint meeting of the cities and counties on April 6th, I believe it is. April, no, I'm sorry, April 15th. [2:24:35, 2:24:37]: April fifteenth. That's the standard [2:24:38, 2:24:38]: Call. [2:24:39, 2:24:45]: In other words, that uh in order for a T spas to go forward or spas to go forward, the county has to make that call or have this joint meeting. [2:24:46, 2:24:52]: Uh and then subsequent to that, there'll be conversations with the cities and counties about an ultimate project list. [2:24:53, 2:24:57]: And so I think uh given given the timing of all of that, we've got a little bit of time. [2:24:57, 2:25:01]: uh with with that and I can probably communicate by email on that item. [2:25:01, 2:25:05]: uh given where we are uh right now in the uh retreat sessions. [2:25:06, 2:25:12]: All right. Any any any questions right now w or concerns about what Mr. Nighting uh just mentioned. [2:25:13, 2:25:14]: Uh our first sir. [2:25:15, 2:25:16]: Go ahead, sir. Go ahead. [2:25:16, 2:25:21]: Well, personally, I don't mind going over on the time. I think it's a worthwhile discussion because [2:25:21, 2:25:24]: Transportation is all we ever hear about. [2:25:24, 2:25:28]: Out in the community every single day is traffic, traffic, traffic. So [2:25:28, 2:25:32]: I I I I don't mind going over on on the time. [2:25:32, 2:25:37]: To have this discussion because uh T-SPLOST is something that Henry County certainly needs. [2:25:37, 2:25:42]: And we need as a city and the citizens need to hear that we're talking about traffic. So [2:25:43, 2:25:47]: I I certainly w think it's a worthwhile discussion and I don't mind staying over on the time. [2:25:48, 2:25:49]: Okay, no problem. No problem with me. [2:25:51, 2:25:55]: All right, any other comments from the council. And if not, Mr. Knight, go ahead, please. [2:25:55, 2:25:58]: All right, give me just one moment. [2:25:58, 2:26:00]: Mayor, I want to bring something up. [2:26:01, 2:26:03]: Let's see here. [2:26:05, 2:26:06]: Mm. [2:26:11, 2:26:12]: Right. [2:26:13, 2:26:15]: All right, let me share screen. [2:26:21, 2:26:22]: Test the one. [2:26:25, 2:26:27]: Alrighty. [2:26:37, 2:26:39]: All right. Can everybody see that? [2:26:39, 2:26:41]: Yes, we can. Okay. All right. [2:26:42, 2:26:48]: Couple things I wanted to mention here is um Splash five, first of all. [2:26:48, 2:27:01]: Civic projects course is forty-eight percent and then twenty-three percent for sewer and road projects, park improvements, and total of hundred percent. That's spLOS five. That's going really what we have splots five, which we should be collecting here fairly soon, uh, in April, May. [2:27:02, 2:27:03]: Same. [2:27:04, 2:27:09]: Again, SWAST five, I'm talking about uh civic projects at nine point eight million dollars. [2:27:09, 2:27:15]: And I did confirm that um the that was used as a part of our bond issuance, that total amount. [2:27:16, 2:27:20]: um for civic projects. And we have road projects of four point seven. [2:27:20, 2:27:23]: Sewer water stormboard infrastructure at four point seven. [2:27:24, 2:27:31]: And then park improvements at one point uh two three one for a total of twenty point five in splost five. [2:27:33, 2:27:38]: All right, uh the city county joint meeting, as I mentioned, April fifteenth, twenty twenty-one. [2:27:38, 2:27:40]: At six o'clock PM. [2:27:40, 2:27:46]: Um the total for Splost or T Splost would generate about two hundred and forty million dollars. [2:27:46, 2:27:48]: For that project. Now obviously there has to be [2:27:48, 2:28:04]: conversation with uh the cities and the counties uh to determine allotments. But more importantly, when it comes to transportation, it is necessary to make sure you have the right projects. And by what I what I mean by right projects is you really have to [2:28:04, 2:28:05]: Of it. [2:28:05, 2:28:08]: forego much of the thinking about jurisdictional boundaries. [2:28:09, 2:28:11]: And the reason is of course roads don't [2:28:11, 2:28:12]: Um [2:28:12, 2:28:14]: Roads are concerned. [2:28:14, 2:28:16]: with jurisdictional boundaries. [2:28:16, 2:28:21]: Roads a new road projects are intended to relieve traffic congestion. [2:28:22, 2:28:23]: And to allow for [2:28:23, 2:28:28]: Citizens to move about and provide the necessary mobility. [2:28:28, 2:28:38]: involved in track transportation projects. So although there will be uh should be allotments for each one of the cities respective jurisdictions, a certain amount. [2:28:38, 2:28:42]: Uh, we have to look globally, and I'm talking county and cities. We have to look go globally. [2:28:42, 2:28:45]: What are the best projects and to move people around? [2:28:46, 2:28:48]: Um to relieve congestion. [2:28:48, 2:29:03]: And also to some degree provide economic development opportunities because companies and businesses that look to move to Henry County, Stockbridge, et cetera. Of course, one of the things that they have on their list is how do you get people to and fro? How do you provide opportunities? [2:29:03, 2:29:06]: for goods and services to be able to move. [2:29:06, 2:29:10]: Throughout that jurisdiction. And so I just point that out because [2:29:11, 2:29:13]: All of us involved, county and cities. [2:29:13, 2:29:14]: Have to be very [2:29:15, 2:29:16]: Aware of [2:29:16, 2:29:19]: The types of projects that should be on a list. [2:29:19, 2:29:22]: That provides that type of mobility. [2:29:22, 2:29:24]: Um, throughout the entirety of the county. [2:29:25, 2:29:26]: All right. [2:29:27, 2:29:28]: We'll move this one over. [2:29:31, 2:29:33]: I'm sorry, I'm trying to move this out of the way. [2:29:34, 2:29:40]: All right, back in February February, last fall, when there was or actually actually last summer, when there was some conversation. [2:29:41, 2:29:44]: About T Splost that point in time, as you recoл. [2:29:45, 2:29:49]: The county was contemplating moving forward with a T Splost in November. [2:29:50, 2:30:00]: And we were on a rapid um ascent to try to get all of these items together, have some conversations with our respective jurisdictions. I'm talking about the cities now. [2:30:00, 2:30:03]: And begin to talk about those things that would be important for. [2:30:04, 2:30:19]: um projects that would be on a T Splos list for a potential vote in November. Off obviously that was that did not happen. And um now the vote will be in November for a transportation spLOS, that additional one cent [2:30:19, 2:30:21]: Uh people would pay. [2:30:21, 2:30:23]: Um to fund [2:30:23, 2:30:31]: All of these civic projects based on different formulas. Right now we're receiving about$20.5 million on the traditional SPLAST 5. [2:30:32, 2:30:37]: If that were to increase some to about 30%, that would be about$25 million. [2:30:37, 2:30:42]: The list you see here is uh right at twenty nine, just over twenty nine. [2:30:42, 2:30:44]: million dollars and again [2:30:45, 2:30:51]: City of Stockbridge, as well as McDonough, Hampton, Locust Grove, and County would need to really put these projects. [2:30:51, 2:30:54]: In a pot to determine which projects [2:30:54, 2:31:00]: Um, should be funded. Much of this has to do with what I think we would receive. [2:31:01, 2:31:05]: uh in terms of an allotment, uh in terms of overall [2:31:06, 2:31:07]: Uh yeah, an overall a lotment. [2:31:08, 2:31:10]: Which now this list is more than that, obviously. [2:31:11, 2:31:15]: But um for discussion purposes and for pup purposes [2:31:15, 2:31:22]: Of moving uh these items forward for consideration, I think we need to have a very strong and robust list on here. [2:31:23, 2:31:30]: As you'll see, starting with the top, there are some items here with respect to curb and gutter sidewalks and widening, Wilson Nolan. [2:31:30, 2:31:31]: Charles, um [2:31:32, 2:31:40]: Walker Street, et cetera. Those items have been discussed before. I went to public works list at 4.5. [2:31:40, 2:31:47]: Davison Parkway resurfacing in sidewalks 3.6, Old Atlanta Road resurfacing resurfacing in sidewalks 2.5. [2:31:48, 2:31:50]: Past street sidewalks two point two [2:31:50, 2:31:55]: Davis Road Curb and Gutter sidewalks from Shields to Clark Park 4.35. [2:31:56, 2:31:57]: Рез Крик Трайл. [2:31:58, 2:32:03]: Um two point eight, Brush Creek, two point four, MLK Senior Heritage Trail. [2:32:03, 2:32:07]: A Spurs four twenty five, uh, and then another section. [2:32:07, 2:32:09]: Greenfront Cafe 355. [2:32:10, 2:32:16]: Continuation of MAK MLK Senior Heritage Trail 625, Trailhead Location at Reeves Creek Trail 500,000. [2:32:17, 2:32:21]: And I would mention that all of those virtually all of those projects that I just mentioned in that section. [2:32:22, 2:32:24]: came from the um [2:32:24, 2:32:28]: Bicycle pedestrian trail plan that the city adopted. [2:32:28, 2:32:31]: In twenty seventeen. So those were extracted directly. [2:32:31, 2:32:33]: From that trail plan. [2:32:34, 2:32:35]: Part of implementing the trail plan. [2:32:36, 2:32:38]: Um country club drive. [2:32:38, 2:32:39]: Country club. [2:32:40, 2:32:41]: Uh drive. [2:32:41, 2:32:47]: As you all recall, um we have placed up some speed signs on Country Club Drive. [2:32:47, 2:32:49]: That particular stretch. [2:32:50, 2:32:52]: Has a number of ingress and egress points. [2:32:53, 2:32:56]: And you'll remember we we had some level of discussion before. [2:32:56, 2:33:02]: about what could be done and we're approached by some some uh businesses there about what could be done about [2:33:03, 2:33:08]: Um the traffic conflicts, if you will, on Country Club Drive. That's why there's one one million dollars. [2:33:09, 2:33:11]: was placed there as potential. [2:33:12, 2:33:12]: Um [2:33:13, 2:33:15]: Opportunities for improvement on country club drive. [2:33:16, 2:33:22]: Burke Street sidewalks, pedestrian improvements, five hundred thousand. Love Street Sidewalks, pedestrian improvements at five hundred thousand. [2:33:23, 2:33:30]: Those items in particular I suggested be put in in order to provide more connectivity in the downtown area. [2:33:30, 2:33:34]: With the advent of the amphitheater, just talked about the amphitheater, talked about [2:33:34, 2:33:35]: Cultural Arts Center. [2:33:36, 2:33:39]: Триати вокабилі. [2:33:39, 2:33:45]: in the downtown area to connect these civic projects and also s to provide opportunities. [2:33:45, 2:33:48]: For what we would like to see in terms of business development. [2:33:48, 2:33:50]: uh in our traditional downtown area. [2:33:50, 2:33:56]: And then Walt Stevens Road Trail, another item at three million dollars. And that total adds up to just over 29. [2:33:57, 2:33:58]: million dollars. [2:33:58, 2:34:00]: As we begin to approach plus five. [2:34:02, 2:34:07]: Excuse me, is we or T Splash, the T S PLOS and in developing a T S PLOS list, which I would imagine [2:34:08, 2:34:11]: Would need to be done by mid summer, July or so. [2:34:11, 2:34:18]: Um to have a I would think that uh the county and cities would want to have a pretty solid list at that point to be able to [2:34:18, 2:34:20]: Провад то. [2:34:20, 2:34:23]: А форд і надерні. [2:34:23, 2:34:25]: as we approach a November election. [2:34:26, 2:34:46]: Um and so as we as we look at this list, um, one of the things that we need to consider is is this list solid? Is this a list that um uh the council would uh endorse uh for consideration as a part of the uh overall T Splost? And if there are any other [2:34:46, 2:34:50]: Um items that uh should be included. [2:34:50, 2:34:51]: Um on this list. [2:34:52, 2:35:06]: and um or or anything that uh there's a question about or anything that needs to be added or included. So with that, um I would I would yield uh Mr. Mayor and uh see if there are any comments from uh council members. [2:35:06, 2:35:12]: All right. Uh I see the MariPort Tim is unmuted, so so you must have something that you need to say at this time. [2:35:12, 2:35:22]: Yes, I do, Mayor. Thank you. I think this is a very worthwhile discussion and to understand. Our citizens talk about traffic every single day. Why? Because we're stuck in it. [2:35:23, 2:35:27]: And in order for us to move forward with appropriate funding. [2:35:27, 2:35:31]: The big l the big number here is two hundred and forty million dollars. [2:35:32, 2:35:35]: And again, uh I talked to all my property owners. [2:35:36, 2:35:36]: You know [2:35:37, 2:35:40]: Because we don't have a lot of industry in the city and in the county. [2:35:41, 2:35:43]: You're you're over taxed as it is now. [2:35:44, 2:35:45]: Uh with Henry County. [2:35:46, 2:35:49]: Uh being what it is and as we drive economic development. [2:35:50, 2:35:53]: We hope to drive those uh county wide tax numbers. [2:35:53, 2:35:54]: Down for you. [2:35:54, 2:36:01]: But in we need uh two billion dollars to close the transportation gap in Henry County. [2:36:02, 2:36:06]: Now there's three hundred and thirty eight million dollars in projects. [2:36:06, 2:36:09]: coming to our coming to our doorstep [2:36:09, 2:36:29]: uh through GDOT and we thank uh our representative uh Dana Lemon uh for doing an excellent job in bringing a number of projects uh to our area. Those projects uh include the widening of Highway 42 from from Stockbridge all the way to McDonough. Highway 42 is very [2:36:29, 2:36:30]: hot w hot travel. [2:36:30, 2:36:32]: uh projects uh [2:36:32, 2:36:34]: Funding for Rock Quarry Road. [2:36:35, 2:36:37]: uh uh widening wa funding [2:36:37, 2:36:40]: uh for various areas like there's a new [2:36:40, 2:36:43]: Highway that's coming from Hudson Bridge Road. [2:36:44, 2:36:52]: Uh it will start at Hudson Bridge Road where the McDonald's is, and it will proceed south uh all the way to Jonesboro Road. [2:36:52, 2:36:54]: And it will bisect the Jodico. [2:36:54, 2:36:58]: uh development, the new mixed use development, whether where the um [2:36:59, 2:37:00]: aquatic center will be located. [2:37:01, 2:37:16]: as well. So citizens should understand that we're doing everything that we can uh to bring road projects uh to the city, to get rid of a lot of these bottlenecks, understand how way 20, highway 81 is being widened uh as well. [2:37:16, 2:37:20]: uh down in McDonough. Uh then G Dot's bringing [2:37:20, 2:37:22]: uh a billion dollar project [2:37:22, 2:37:25]: That will uh help with the truck truck traffic. [2:37:25, 2:37:28]: Uh, from Savannah all the way to [2:37:28, 2:37:31]: Uh, Henry County where there will be truck only lanes. [2:37:31, 2:37:35]: uh from that uh from that corridor relieving the pressure [2:37:35, 2:37:36]: Uh awful. [2:37:36, 2:37:41]: The network, but we have to do our part and we have to be able to provide. [2:37:41, 2:37:45]: А дан сайтак аз а матч. [2:37:45, 2:37:47]: I'm very, very hopeful. [2:37:48, 2:37:51]: That in the Henry County version of this blossom list. [2:37:51, 2:37:56]: that they will be inclusive of Walt Stevens Road and Flippin' Road. [2:37:56, 2:37:57]: We deserve that. [2:37:58, 2:38:00]: Бікас Евробаді і не с каунті. [2:38:01, 2:38:09]: When traffic gets backed up on I seventy five, every person in this county has got off at highway one hundred thirty eight. [2:38:09, 2:38:10]: Took Spear Road. [2:38:11, 2:38:31]: To Walt Stevens Road to Flipland Road. So everybody in the county needs to be supportive of improve improving these corridors. And with this T Sploss, I'm very hopeful that no T Splos on the county level will go forward without significant funding for Walt Stevens Road. [2:38:31, 2:38:34]: Widening, uh spear roll and flipping roll. [2:38:35, 2:38:55]: To be inclusive in all of these projects to make sure that we work on overall traffic uh improvements for the city. Uh, this one this is a one-cent sales tax, ladies and gentlemen. It's one cent that you will pay uh in addition to what you're paying now, uh, to bring 240 million dollars. And the best thing about the T-Splot. [2:38:55, 2:39:15]: Us is it has to be spent on traffic improvement. It has to be. It's traffic related. And that's all we hear from you all every single day. What are we going to do about traffic? If you look at the cities list here, it's uh based on connectivity uh and improvement, the way to get around. Because so many times in [2:39:15, 2:39:23]: In various neighborhoods. We don't have sidewalks. In this plan here, I know many of you all uh right now because the Reeves Creek. [2:39:24, 2:39:33]: Uh trail has been closed, venture over to Clayton International. That's a beautiful park over there with pedestrian access. [2:39:33, 2:39:36]: If you look at the two projects that we have here. [2:39:37, 2:39:40]: Uh on this list the flipping rope the the um [2:39:41, 2:39:47]: the trail extension, the Reed Street Trail extension for two miles, and then the Walt Stevens Trail. [2:39:47, 2:39:50]: We hope in this vision to be able to connect. [2:39:51, 2:39:56]: the Reese Creek Trail in Stockbridge to the Clayton International Lake Spoy Trail. [2:39:57, 2:39:59]: Imagine how wonderful that would be. [2:39:59, 2:40:02]: For you to be able to take uh park at Flippin' Road. [2:40:02, 2:40:05]: and venture all the way out to Clayton International if they're new. [2:40:06, 2:40:08]: Uh, Red Center and Park area. [2:40:08, 2:40:11]: To be able to go all the way to our stop ridge amphitheater. [2:40:11, 2:40:13]: Amazing connectivity. [2:40:14, 2:40:16]: would be inclusive in all of these projects here. [2:40:17, 2:40:19]: But again, this is a county wide. [2:40:20, 2:40:26]: effort in addition to the city. So it is incumbent upon us to work very closely [2:40:26, 2:40:40]: With Henry County to make sure that there are projects that affect the area of Stockbridge, primarily Walt Stevens and Flippin, uh to be able to prove those and to make sure that we get some additional funding to actually uh [2:40:41, 2:40:42]: A fund of widening. [2:40:42, 2:40:44]: uh of rock core rope. [2:40:44, 2:40:49]: Those projects which citizens have been calling for for extended period of time. [2:40:49, 2:41:02]: can be accomplished right here if we can get support uh for this T splot vote. It's very critical, ladies and gentlemen. The state wants to see us put up some skin in the game. We can't go to D dot [2:41:02, 2:41:07]: And say we want all of this funding and then we're not doing our part on the local level. [2:41:07, 2:41:12]: But if we can go to G Dot with cash in hand, it's two hundred and forty million dollars. [2:41:12, 2:41:15]: I I trust and believe that our representative will [2:41:15, 2:41:18]: Ворі гарфос та секьюри. [2:41:19, 2:41:26]: uh one point five billion dollars that we need to correct the transportation infrastructure here in her county. [2:41:27, 2:41:34]: All right. More to follow obviously on on all this in this aspect. Mr. Knighton, um, I mean it may be uh [2:41:35, 2:41:53]: too premature, but uh it the meeting with the county and other cities on the fifteenth, do you realize uh if that's going to be virtual or is that going to be in yes, I understand it's virtual, virtual meeting. It is a virtual meeting. Good meeting. Okay, good deal. Uh any further comments, uh counsel on this uh T S Plus piece here at all? Anyone else? [2:41:54, 2:42:02]: Anybody else? Okay. Anything I don't see any other uh anything else. Okay. Anything else, Mr. Knight, you need to add before we [2:42:02, 2:42:10]: You and portion no, but no, no, sir, but but as we as we continue to progress, as I mentioned in the next couple of months. I'm in a meeting. [2:42:11, 2:42:14]: In the next couple of months. [2:42:15, 2:42:25]: Um in the next couple of months as we continue to progress, um, we'll need to finalize or refine this list uh for consideration uh with the other [2:42:25, 2:42:29]: um items with the county and other cities and we'll keep you apprised of that. [2:42:29, 2:42:30]: Okay. [2:42:31, 2:42:33]: All right. Good job. [2:42:33, 2:42:49]: So on on that note, then uh what we have, sir, is a Zegler session that we need to go into and to talk about a few things, whether it's personal litigation or real estate matters with the entire council, and then we'll come out of that, do the recap and then adjourn. [2:42:49, 2:42:50]: Okay. [2:42:50, 2:42:53]: So on that note, uh [2:42:53, 2:43:01]: On that note, oh yes, Vanessa Halda. Yes, I just want to apologize for my open mic. I'm not touching it. It's doing that. And I it's unfortunate that. [2:43:03, 2:43:08]: There was two times when I was speaking. I apologize for that. No, no problem. Okay. Apology accepted. [2:43:09, 2:43:20]: Appreciate it. Uh so but we need to go to exactly session. So uh Vanessa, could you send everybody a connectivity to do that? And um [2:43:20, 2:43:28]: in this aspect and I would imagine uh we can be in executive session uh probably within the next what ten minutes five minutes, ten minutes? How how long do you think you need? [2:43:30, 2:43:35]: Just a couple of minutes, certainly not that long. Five minutes, I'll see ya you all as everyone. Yes. [2:43:36, 2:43:41]: I sent you an email about someone else who's joining the executive session. Just want to make sure you saw that as well, please. [2:43:44, 2:43:44]: Thank you. [2:43:47, 2:43:48]: Okay, we'll do. Thank you. [2:43:49, 2:44:06]: And uh I would think we don't we don't necessarily need a motion to go to Zagos session anyway. Uh I mean normally we do, but this is uh this is a retreat, so I think we just go just like we've just been adjourning the meeting. So I'll just uh if that's the case and uh we'll just we'll see you right in Zego session here in a few minutes. All right. [2:44:08, 2:44:10]: All right. Thank you. [2:44:11, 2:44:17]: I guess we need to leave this particular venue and and then open up a new one and then come back. I would suggest leaving and especially [2:44:17, 2:44:19]: I would suggest leaving. [2:44:19, 2:44:24]: You would you suggest what, ma'am? Just leaving I would suggest leaving. Altogether. Okay. Good deal. Thank you. [2:44:25, 2:44:25]: I'll see you on a bit. [2:47:06, 2:47:09]: And this link should have really been the same link we had earlier today is what it amounts to. [2:47:40, 2:47:40]: Yeah. [2:52:28, 2:52:29]: Mayor, I came on in here. [2:52:38, 2:52:39]: You're muted, Mr. Mayor. [2:52:42, 2:52:47]: Yeah, that does happen to me from time to time. Yes. I'm I'm I'm looking for uh Mr. Knight to join back in. [2:52:49, 2:52:49]: As well. [2:52:50, 2:52:56]: As well as b as well as uh oh there we go. Now we okay. And [2:53:01, 2:53:03]: Hi, Miss Knighton. I'll see you back in. [2:53:05, 2:53:06]: Yes, yes, Mayor. [2:53:06, 2:53:10]: Okay, let's go through a recap from the day day three. [2:53:10, 2:53:12]: Okay. All right. [2:53:13, 2:53:27]: Okay. Um we started out uh in the morning with respect to um oh Vanessa. I was just asking, is Miss Gantt not coming back? She's coming back. She's c she'll be back. Okay. I'm just making sure for the record. Yeah, I called her. She she she'll be back here shortly. [2:53:27, 2:53:28]: Okay. [2:53:28, 2:53:35]: Excuse me. All right. Uh we began the day um with a recap of um yesterday and the items discussed there. [2:53:35, 2:53:41]: And began the day with uh Heather Hubble from uh TSWR architect going over the [2:53:42, 2:53:50]: Uh amphitheater initially the amphitheater items first, primarily the issue related to splash pad or interactive water features. [2:53:50, 2:53:51]: There were two options shown. [2:53:52, 2:53:58]: Uh the council decided that preferred would be option number two, which was uh the property here or or [2:53:58, 2:53:59]: First. [2:53:59, 2:54:03]: Proximity right here uh um uh against City Hall. [2:54:03, 2:54:12]: And we went through uh that item discussed the various uh features of the um interactive feature and it seemed that all council members were supportive of that. [2:54:13, 2:54:16]: However, uh there was a cost estimate that was mentioned. [2:54:17, 2:54:28]: Uh that was well over uh one million dollars. And there were some things discussed there with respect to the restrooms um and any other cost saving measures that could be given. Again, that was a very, very broad estimate. [2:54:28, 2:54:39]: uh one point seven million I believe it was. But the thought is that the uh location is what was important at the moment and CSW would go back and um [2:54:40, 2:54:41]: Have a more specific cost. [2:54:42, 2:54:43]: Assessment. [2:54:43, 2:54:49]: Um and look at uh obviously cost reductions for um that particular item. [2:54:49, 2:54:52]: But overall it seemed to resonate with the council. [2:54:53, 2:54:54]: The second [2:54:54, 2:54:59]: uh item that uh uh we spent extensive time on was a cultural arts center. [2:54:59, 2:55:01]: uh item specifically. [2:55:01, 2:55:12]: And uh Ms. Hubble presented a presentation and went through various iterations that have taken place since 2019, 2020, and now where we sit in terms of the overall cultural arts center. [2:55:12, 2:55:17]: And discussed um the current estimated costs. [2:55:17, 2:55:22]: Of the cultural arts center, which range as I remember from thirteen to twenty six million dollars or so. [2:55:23, 2:55:27]: For the current configuration. She then showed a list of items. [2:55:27, 2:55:35]: That could um perhaps allow this the city to realize cost reductions uh throughout um. [2:55:36, 2:55:38]: uh the current configuration. [2:55:39, 2:55:46]: uh of the cultural arts center. Um and the council members expressed some various thoughts about those different items. [2:55:46, 2:55:54]: Um, and concern about losing the overall vision of the Cultural Arts Center, um, as has been previously discussed. [2:55:55, 2:55:57]: with a ballroom with the [2:55:58, 2:55:59]: Theatre. [2:55:59, 2:56:02]: With the various other rooms in particular. [2:56:02, 2:56:03]: Uh, the museum. [2:56:04, 2:56:09]: um as well. And so those were of of great concern to council members. [2:56:10, 2:56:11]: And the [2:56:11, 2:56:13]: overall discussion. [2:56:14, 2:56:16]: did um further [2:56:16, 2:56:21]: some perhaps some other cost saving measures that could be employed, but overall [2:56:21, 2:56:30]: Um, council um stated that uh you wanted to look at some reductions and reducing the footprint, the overall square footage. Keep the main features. [2:56:31, 2:56:33]: There but look at square footage reductions. [2:56:34, 2:56:39]: or the amphitheater itself and s or I'm sorry, the cultural arts center, proposed cultural art center. [2:56:39, 2:56:46]: And so um uh with that, uh Ms. Hubble and and of course myself are charged with going back. [2:56:46, 2:56:48]: And looking at a different [2:56:49, 2:56:52]: Press smaller reduced configuration. [2:56:52, 2:56:55]: Of the um cultural arts center. [2:56:56, 2:57:08]: um and bringing back that back to the council to ensure that it meets with your desires for the all of the appropriate features and needed features with some level of cost reduction there. [2:57:08, 2:57:13]: Also there was discussion about SPLOSS funds and other funding sources that perhaps could be leveraged. [2:57:14, 2:57:17]: to um meet the cost of the uh [2:57:17, 2:57:18]: Cultural Arts Center. [2:57:18, 2:57:21]: As it relates to what's already been approved in terms of [2:57:22, 2:57:24]: uh financing through b bonding issuance. [2:57:25, 2:57:28]: And so um that uh pretty much uh [2:57:29, 2:57:30]: Summarizes [2:57:30, 2:57:33]: І оворал культур арт центра ідом і цел. [2:57:34, 2:57:38]: With respect to uh that discussion, which was very involved and and good comments from [2:57:39, 2:57:40]: Uh the council. [2:57:40, 2:57:45]: The net the the the last item that was discussed by Ms. Hubble was related to the senior and youth center. [2:57:46, 2:57:56]: Obviously this is something that uh has been viewed a couple of times. There was an initial one-story facility, then uh proposed two-story facility with an indoor track, pool, et cetera. [2:57:56, 2:57:59]: And um that has been refined. [2:57:59, 2:58:06]: Uh with Miss Hubble, she showed uh some renderings of the exterior layout of the interior. [2:58:07, 2:58:09]: That incorporated all of these different features. [2:58:10, 2:58:14]: And then um provided a very broad cost estimate that was in the [2:58:15, 2:58:21]: 27 to 35 million dollar range, understanding that that is a wish list as it was mentioned. [2:58:21, 2:58:24]: Of all of the things that could be incorporated into a [2:58:25, 2:58:26]: Senior and youth center. [2:58:27, 2:58:36]: And understanding that that may be something that is for future years. There were discussions again about looking at different options for funding sources. [2:58:36, 2:58:48]: Um and partnerships with other entities that may be maybe interested, or it'd be proper to have those partnerships that would help to leverage some of the costs. [2:58:48, 2:58:51]: that might be associated with um a facility. [2:58:52, 2:58:53]: Uh such as that type. [2:58:55, 2:59:00]: Um then we had a further discussion about T Splost. [2:59:00, 2:59:07]: transportation splash which is expected in uh to be voted on in November uh by voters here in Henry County and the cities. [2:59:08, 2:59:18]: Um I went over a presentation of uh not only our SPLOST five numbers, but then what's projected for T SPLOST overall, two hundred and forty or so million dollars. [2:59:18, 2:59:23]: And then looking at pr potential allocations for the city of Stockbridge. [2:59:23, 2:59:32]: Uh I did provide you with a list of several projects. Many of them had been identified before as being needed and also identified in our. [2:59:32, 2:59:33]: Um [2:59:33, 2:59:35]: bike trail and pedestrian plan. [2:59:36, 2:59:43]: that has already been approved to further implementation of that plan with those potential [2:59:43, 2:59:46]: uh funding from uh the transportation splots in addition [2:59:47, 2:59:50]: There were other road projects that had been identified. [2:59:51, 2:59:53]: Uh country club draft, for instance. [2:59:54, 3:00:03]: Um, Berk Street, Love Street, this area to provide support, funding support for connectivity in our downtown area. Understanding the amphitheater is nearing completion. [3:00:03, 3:00:09]: as well as cultural arts center and to facilitate movement among pedestrians uh downtown. [3:00:09, 3:00:15]: And so that totaled just over$29 million. There will be a joint meeting of the city and counties. [3:00:16, 3:00:23]: or the the county and cities on April 15th at 6 o'clock PM uh virtually. That is something that has to be formally done. [3:00:24, 3:00:37]: And then subsequent to that, there will be further discussions with the county and city about projects, road projects overall, and then uh allocations for the cities where we would need to uh provide uh project lists. [3:00:37, 3:00:42]: Um for the projects that the mayor and council deem to be appropriate from the city of Stockbridge's perspective. [3:00:43, 3:00:45]: Excuse me. [3:00:45, 3:00:49]: Um and then we uh mentioned um [3:00:51, 3:00:53]: I think we wrapped up there with a T Splased. [3:00:54, 3:00:59]: Um and mentioned um or obviously went went into executive session at that point. [3:01:00, 3:01:01]: Come out of the executive session. [3:01:02, 3:01:06]: And we are nearing uh completion of what I think has been [3:01:06, 3:01:09]: Productive two and a half days with respect to [3:01:10, 3:01:13]: uh the projects that we've discussed, the other items that we've discussed. [3:01:14, 3:01:16]: Try to move the city forward, including the [3:01:16, 3:01:18]: The advent of a police department. [3:01:19, 3:01:22]: uh for the city and so I think it's been a fairly productive [3:01:23, 3:01:28]: uh period of time, uh thank the council for their extensive input, direction. [3:01:28, 3:01:32]: uh in many areas and the conversations that's been had and hopefully [3:01:32, 3:01:39]: Uh many citizens have been benefited and uh informed about uh the city's plans. [3:01:39, 3:01:41]: Um uh for the future. [3:01:42, 3:01:48]: I appreciate the recap the Mr. Knight and I will say ditto to the the comments you just made in reference to the two and a half day [3:01:48, 3:02:00]: process of uh winning retreat, I think has been very productive as well, spirited conversations as well as a uh uh uh continuing our path forward to to improve our great city and make it even greater in this aspect as well. [3:02:00, 3:02:01]: So I think that's great. [3:02:01, 3:02:03]: Uh Mr. Thomas, you're unmuted, sir. [3:02:04, 3:02:13]: Yes, I just wanted to ask Mr. Mr. Night if he would give me another copy of a hard copy of his uh T sp splash. [3:02:13, 3:02:17]: I'll send that to everybody here shortly. Yes. Thank you. Uh [3:02:18, 3:02:19]: Great retreat. Great. [3:02:20, 3:02:20]: Right. [3:02:20, 3:02:24]: So on that note, if there lets no other comments at this time, uh [3:02:24, 3:02:28]: Uh you may pretend you're on okay, you're you're mute. Do you want me to say? [3:02:28, 3:02:31]: I just wanna say echo the same words and just say [3:02:31, 3:02:34]: Хистори прогресс мет і Стокбид і не пас. [3:02:35, 3:02:38]: year to two. We we we really done some things that [3:02:38, 3:02:42]: Set the city, it will history will be very kind. [3:02:42, 3:02:46]: Uh to this council for the progress that has been made, Mary Council. [3:02:46, 3:02:50]: For this progress that has been made. It is monumental. [3:02:50, 3:02:54]: And we're setting the standard extremely high. So thank everybody for participating. [3:02:55, 3:03:02]: Absolutely. Absolutely. On that note, uh if there's nothing else, I would tell you we'll be adjourned. I'll tell you have a great weekend. Miss the mayor, real quick. [3:03:04, 3:03:05]: Yeah, okay, you got [3:03:05, 3:03:22]: Yeah, if you don't uh get marked. Uh Mr. Knight, uh if you're still on, uh I know we have the uh El Meg list for twenty twenty one and they said that we're gonna finish up the one for twenty twenty. I think you said something about country club drive. Uh we talked about a um [3:03:22, 3:03:25]: When we did the road um [3:03:25, 3:03:28]: study for what roles need to be done. We also did the sidewalks. [3:03:29, 3:03:35]: Do you have a list uh showing what sidewalks was on that list or or is that even in existence? [3:03:35, 3:03:39]: Okay, I'll I'll get that from Deshus and provide it to you, what we have. [3:03:41, 3:03:43]: Okay, to the council. Right to the council. Yes. [3:03:44, 3:03:45]: Mm is solid. [3:03:46, 3:03:50]: No problem. Thank you, sir. Miss Holliday, you had something on your mind then. Okay, good. All right. [3:03:50, 3:03:51]: On that note. [3:03:51, 3:03:54]: It's been a long two and a half days, but very productive. [3:03:54, 3:03:56]: Have a great weekend, folks. God bless y'all. [3:03:57, 3:03:57]: Bye bye now. [3:03:59, 3:04:00]: Thank you.

--- title: Council Retreat Day 1 date: 2021-03-17 source: 2021-03-17_Council_Retreat_Day_1.wav --- [0:00:29, 0:00:32]: And Vanessa said this is going to be on Facebook Live. Is that correct? [0:00:36, 0:00:41]: I'm sorry, I was muted. Yes, the answer is yes. Okay, sounds good. I said that then. Thank you. Appreciate it. [0:00:50, 0:00:51]: Good morning. [0:00:51, 0:00:52]: Yeah, morning, Vanessa. How you doing? [0:00:53, 0:00:59]: Well, how are you today? I I guess we got uh Councilwoman Barber and Councilman Blount online as well. Good morning to you all. [0:01:24, 0:01:27]: Councilman Blount, sir. [0:01:30, 0:01:31]: Good morning. How are you? [0:01:31, 0:01:32]: I'm sorry, about yourself. [0:01:33, 0:01:38]: I uh yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna be joining, but I'm gonna be mostly um without video, so [0:01:39, 0:01:50]: Okay. I will tell you that uh I I uh listened to the meeting last night. It kinda went in and out a few times on me. Um, but uh seems as though that uh [0:01:50, 0:01:53]: Uh we didn't get our particular wish there. [0:01:54, 0:01:55]: And reference. Yeah, yeah. [0:01:57, 0:01:58]: So um [0:01:58, 0:02:07]: So I don't know what I'm not sure exactly what's going to be happening next, but this aspect. We are recording, sir. Oh, I'm sorry. Sco okay. It just happened. [0:02:07, 0:02:15]: All right. I'll I'll be quiet. Morning, everyone. Morning. Thank you. Good morning. Okay. Thank you for that, Vanessa. Appreciate it. Let me be quiet. [0:02:15, 0:02:24]: I m do something wrong. Um yes, sir. Yeah. I'm gonna go on mute you guys, but I I am here uh listening and I'll be able to interject whenever I need to. Um [0:02:25, 0:02:27]: Um, you got that Vanessa? [0:02:28, 0:02:31]: Ms. Holiday, I'm sorry. Okay, thanks. Appreciate you. Thanks. [0:02:56, 0:02:58]: Morning, Councilman Thomas. How you doing, sir? [0:02:59, 0:03:02]: Ms. Gantt, how you doing? Good morning. Morning to you. Morning. [0:03:02, 0:03:10]: Are we we're not Facebook Live, are we? Are we going live? We are. We are, yes. We are? Yes. [0:03:10, 0:03:11]: Oh God. [0:03:12, 0:03:13]: Okay. [0:03:14, 0:03:16]: Yeah. Uh [0:03:17, 0:03:20]: All right, I'll be in and out. I'm helping my daughter virtually. [0:03:21, 0:03:25]: But I'll I'll be the phone will be on, good Lord. [0:03:25, 0:03:27]: I didn't know we were going live. [0:03:27, 0:03:28]: Uh yes ma'am. [0:03:30, 0:03:45]: Who's the bright idea with that? Well, I mean, this is what we we well typically I have we have these retreats we're off site, but uh um I guess in a sense it was I was just asked about that and of course the answer is yes, that we're going live. It's reporting. We're we're we're live now. [0:03:45, 0:03:49]: Yes, sir. We are live now. That's correct. We are live now. That's correct. [0:03:49, 0:03:51]: That is correct. Okay. [0:03:52, 0:03:52]: Thank you. [0:03:52, 0:03:53]: You're welcome. [0:03:56, 0:04:05]: Let me know if I need to stop again. No, no, you're good. You're good, sir. You're good. We're this is fine. We're uh it's all part of process of uh [0:04:05, 0:04:12]: Being an elected body and showing transparency and and doing the good work of the citizens. That's what we're elected to do. [0:04:12, 0:04:13]: Sound good. [0:04:13, 0:04:14]: Yeah, so [0:04:16, 0:04:17]: Mr. Knighton, and morning to you, sir. [0:04:19, 0:04:21]: Good morning, hello to all. [0:04:21, 0:04:22]: Okay, so I actually [0:04:23, 0:04:27]: Oh geez, let me think. I'm still missing uh [0:04:30, 0:04:31]: Okay, Ness. [0:04:38, 0:04:41]: Good morning. Good morning. Good morning to you. [0:04:43, 0:04:47]: All right. So in our actuality then we actually have [0:04:48, 0:04:50]: A corn and we have everybody. [0:04:51, 0:04:52]: All right. [0:04:53, 0:04:55]: So I have [0:04:55, 0:04:57]: And I have nine o'clock. [0:04:58, 0:05:05]: Hi ladies and gentlemen, we're uh we are live recording and on Facebook Live and we might as well get started with our council retreat. [0:05:05, 0:05:18]: March 17th, uh, 2021. It is nine o'clock. And uh Miss Holiday, could you please um well I like to call meeting order, obviously, this aspect, but uh uh could you do a roll call, please? [0:05:21, 0:05:21]: Mayor Ford. [0:05:22, 0:05:22]: Present. [0:05:23, 0:05:25]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:05:26, 0:05:27]: President. [0:05:27, 0:05:28]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:05:29, 0:05:30]: President. [0:05:31, 0:05:32]: Councilman Blount. [0:05:35, 0:05:35]: Present. [0:05:36, 0:05:38]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:05:38, 0:05:39]: Present. [0:05:40, 0:05:41]: And Councilman Thomas. [0:05:42, 0:05:43]: Present. [0:05:43, 0:05:44]: Mayor Ford, do you have a quorum? [0:05:45, 0:05:46]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. [0:05:46, 0:05:48]: And I'll give the invocation for for today. [0:05:48, 0:05:49]: Please bow your hand. [0:05:50, 0:06:10]: Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again as we start our three-day retreat, as we continue to have conversations and make logical decisions in reference to our city as we move it forward. A lot of presentations be worthwhile and and and the fact that we have good conversations and discussions and spirited ideas and thoughts. And be as always, Lord, as we continue. [0:06:10, 0:06:16]: To do the best we can for our citizens and move the city forward and make the city of Stockbridge even greater than it is today. [0:06:16, 0:06:21]: We need you in all time, Lord, to guide us the right path. Your name. Amen. [0:06:22, 0:06:24]: Okay, uh Stanford of Pledge Allegiance. [0:06:27, 0:06:30]: Pledge allegiance to the flag. [0:06:30, 0:06:32]: Of the United States of America. [0:06:32, 0:06:35]: To the republic for which it stands. [0:06:35, 0:06:36]: One nation. [0:06:37, 0:06:38]: I don't know if that's [0:06:38, 0:06:42]: Indivisible with liberty and just as well. [0:06:45, 0:06:52]: And I realize Vanessa that I kind of probably did that a little bit out of order in a sense, but um, but we all got it, we got it done. [0:06:52, 0:07:11]: We got it done, sir. Yeah, got it done. Absolutely. Uh what it amounts to, ladies and gentlemen, uh with us besides the council being present, of course the clerk is present. Uh Mr. Peterson is online. Good to see you, sir. This aspect, our um economic director and Mr. Washington and Mr. Berry, our attorneys are online as well today. [0:07:11, 0:07:31]: Of course, we can't make this happen without our IT support. So this is great in this aspect. Look forward to uh a great uh retreat as we once again discuss the issues and concerns of the city and make a path forward for success uh for us all in this aspect. On that note, oh and also uh as you well know we have plenty of presentations. [0:07:31, 0:07:41]: And so those individuals will be introduced as they come up on the agenda within the next couple of days. On that note, Mr. Knightong, I hand it to you, sir, for your retreat overview. [0:07:41, 0:07:45]: Yes, thank you, uh Mayor Ford and to the mayor and council. [0:07:45, 0:07:47]: Uh good to see you this morning. [0:07:47, 0:07:52]: Um we do have uh fairly stocked uh uh sessions and retreats over the next [0:07:53, 0:08:13]: Uh several days, and we want to make sure that we are able to address all of the items that are on the retreat. We'll do our very best to stay on task and on time. I'm sure that uh Ms. Holiday will keep us uh in a good place in terms of time, making sure we transition one to another, but we certainly want to be able to provide ample. [0:08:13, 0:08:13]: time. [0:08:14, 0:08:22]: To discuss the matters that are before us because they are significant and important for the vision of the city as we progress forward. [0:08:23, 0:08:38]: A couple things I would uh as a matter of course, of course, uh Mayor Ford um being the presiding officer will essentially facilitate uh much of the retreat in terms of transitions from one to another. One of the things that um I know that is [0:08:38, 0:08:39]: Um [0:08:39, 0:08:57]: Paramount is the fact that um uh everybody brings something new um and different to the table in terms of skills, experience, and knowledge. And I think forums like this allow us to be able to share those knowledges and experiences and help. [0:08:57, 0:08:58]: Uh cultivate. [0:08:59, 0:09:03]: good decisions that can be made uh when those are uh those [0:09:03, 0:09:05]: uh opinions and thoughts. [0:09:05, 0:09:08]: are shared with one another and respected by everybody. [0:09:09, 0:09:25]: And we have a great chance of ultimately coming to uh some good decisions, some good thoughts as it relates to the city. So we look forward to the sharing of ideas today, um, mayor and council along with uh the staff members and the speakers that we'll have present. [0:09:25, 0:09:26]: Uh, for today. [0:09:27, 0:09:31]: Uh we will have a financial update, uh brief financial update from [0:09:31, 0:09:34]: The treasurer John Wiggins um in addition to that. [0:09:35, 0:09:41]: Uh once he completes his financial update, I would like to just briefly go over the American Rescue Plan. [0:09:41, 0:10:01]: Uh the direct aid to cities of about$130 billion. That's something that has come about just last week, and more information has been flowing to us related to that. In fact, we've got some information just as late as yesterday, more information about that. There's still some things that are unclear, but there are uh some very significant ideas. [0:10:01, 0:10:03]: Items in that uh uh plan. [0:10:04, 0:10:10]: that uh certainly can benefit and uh impact local government. So I want to be able to try to go through that. [0:10:10, 0:10:16]: Um just based on some information um we received as late as yesterday afternoon or yesterday, I should say. [0:10:17, 0:10:23]: Uh secondly, um, we're gonna go through uh we got Mr. Uh uh Judge McCord, excuse me. [0:10:23, 0:10:28]: A municipal court. One of the decisions, of course, that was made by the council recently relates to [0:10:28, 0:10:40]: The beginnings of a police department. We have gone ahead and looped forward with a job description, which I shared with you all related to a police chief position. [0:10:40, 0:10:45]: But there are other implications for um the beginning of a police department. [0:10:45, 0:10:53]: That we want to make sure that we understand now as we plan for ultimate implementation. One of those is the impact to municipal court. [0:10:54, 0:11:09]: um and how uh the prospect of a police department uh and the associated um uh connection between uh police department and the courts uh could impact the courts. So we want to hear directly from [0:11:09, 0:11:12]: Uh Judge McCord um about that. [0:11:13, 0:11:16]: Uh then um later in the morning we have Bill Stark. [0:11:16, 0:11:19]: Um leader Dove who is a facilitator. [0:11:19, 0:11:39]: And uh an organizational consultant. He'll lead us uh in a component of a strategic planning process. This is a a one part of a uh longer process to complete a strategic plan, but a very important one, which is a SWOT analysis, uh strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats. And then um [0:11:39, 0:11:44]: In the early part of the afternoon, we'll have uh consultants um [0:11:44, 0:11:47]: Um who are working on the unified development code. [0:11:47, 0:11:56]: Give you an update on where they are in that process. And then also get some additional thoughts from you as council members related to. [0:11:56, 0:12:01]: uh unified development code, uh zoning ordinances, uh things of that nature. [0:12:01, 0:12:04]: And then um the latter part of this afternoon we will [0:12:05, 0:12:15]: Go into the aquatic center uh discussion. Um uh myself and Mr. Berry and Mr. Washington did meet with [0:12:15, 0:12:22]: Um Miss Matthews, the county manager, and um uh their attorney, Patrick Jock Stetter on Friday. [0:12:23, 0:12:24]: Had a conversation with them. [0:12:25, 0:12:28]: We also have of course the resolution that was passed by. [0:12:28, 0:12:30]: Henry County last week. [0:12:30, 0:12:33]: Авич, ви воді говорю with you. [0:12:33, 0:12:38]: uh in terms of your feedback and comments as it relates to um the aquatic center. [0:12:38, 0:12:40]: Um and that completes um [0:12:41, 0:12:42]: The balance of day one. [0:12:43, 0:12:48]: Uh day two, uh we're going to get into uh some other items as well, including having [0:12:49, 0:12:54]: guest speaker chief grogan from the city of Dunwitty police chief there who started a police department several years ago. [0:12:54, 0:13:00]: from the ground up. So he'll uh be very important for our conversation as it relates to police. [0:13:01, 0:13:04]: We'll have an update uh on the amphitheater from Kurt Russell. [0:13:05, 0:13:08]: Kirk Russell. Kirk Vocal with HJ Russell. [0:13:08, 0:13:10]: Um, we'll also discuss annexation. [0:13:11, 0:13:25]: Um and then have project uh updates from uh Falcon Design, as well as discuss um um some overarching thoughts on procurement policies, primarily led by Jeremy Berry, who has some extensive knowledge. [0:13:25, 0:13:26]: Uh in that area. [0:13:27, 0:13:29]: And then on Friday we'll have um [0:13:30, 0:13:35]: TSW here with us. Primarily the discussion will center around the Cultural Arts Center. [0:13:36, 0:13:39]: We need to have some discussions there. [0:13:40, 0:13:42]: en en hopfully finalize [0:13:43, 0:13:48]: concept or or or go a long way into finalizing the concept for the final concept for [0:13:48, 0:13:50]: The cultural arts center. [0:13:50, 0:13:56]: uh within the parameters of the financial budget that's established or has been established by the council. [0:13:57, 0:13:59]: Then we're gonna have a brief discussion about T Splost. [0:13:59, 0:14:05]: Um, because there will be a call, um, a formal meeting, joint meeting of all of the county and the cities. [0:14:06, 0:14:11]: Uh I believe for April fifteenth. I believe it's proposed for April fifteenth at six o'clock is our call. [0:14:12, 0:14:32]: For T Splost. And then we want to talk about work off of the project list that we discussed last fall or last summer, I guess it was, when uh T S PLOST initially was discussed. And um we do have a section on for executive session on Friday, late Friday morning as well for any matters. [0:14:31, 0:14:35]: that uh uh need executives disc session discussion. [0:14:36, 0:14:40]: So um we got a number of things that we uh want to discuss. [0:14:40, 0:14:42]: Or need to discuss with the council. [0:14:42, 0:14:45]: Um as we move forward to um [0:14:46, 0:14:51]: uh completing uh several of these capital projects, formation of police department, et cetera. [0:14:51, 0:15:02]: So we look forward to discussion um uh for today and uh the next couple of days, and um uh I'm sure that we will have very substantive [0:15:03, 0:15:04]: And productive. [0:15:04, 0:15:08]: uh feedback. So with that I'll I'll turn it back to to Mayor Ford. [0:15:09, 0:15:15]: Well, actually, thank you, sir. I appreciate it. But uh I would tell you go right to Mr. Wiggins for a financial update. Mr. Wiggins, please. [0:15:16, 0:15:23]: Yes. Good morning, Mayor and Council and um fellow staff members. Uh I wanna start out [0:15:24, 0:15:25]: Uh let me [0:15:25, 0:15:27]: I need to um share the screen. [0:15:28, 0:15:29]: So give me a moment, please. [0:15:45, 0:15:46]: Okay. There we go. [0:15:49, 0:15:51]: This is financial update for the council retreat. [0:15:54, 0:15:57]: Start out talking about this the mission. [0:15:57, 0:16:00]: For finance. The finance department provides professional oversight. [0:16:01, 0:16:05]: Consultation to the CD programs and services regarding financial accounting. [0:16:05, 0:16:10]: And budgetary practices. Our focus is to ensure compliance to all relevant [0:16:11, 0:16:12]: Why not show in budgetary relations? [0:16:13, 0:16:15]: regulations, including Georgia budget law. [0:16:16, 0:16:19]: And state statutes governing financial information. [0:16:20, 0:16:23]: Brief description of the department, what we do. [0:16:23, 0:16:28]: Prime finance department provides financial management services to the city departments. [0:16:29, 0:16:30]: And the city council. [0:16:31, 0:16:31]: Parliament. [0:16:32, 0:16:36]: Oversees the preparation and monitoring of the city's annual budget, revenue collection. [0:16:37, 0:16:38]: And coordinates. [0:16:38, 0:16:40]: The annual audit. [0:16:43, 0:16:44]: Next slide. [0:16:45, 0:16:46]: This one I hear. [0:16:47, 0:16:53]: It's the 2020 general fund unaudited statement of revenues, expenditures, and net changes. [0:16:54, 0:16:55]: It uh [0:16:55, 0:16:57]: Starts out with the revenues. [0:16:57, 0:16:59]: uh the budget to actual [0:17:00, 0:17:00]: Actually we [0:17:02, 0:17:02]: Twenty twenty. [0:17:03, 0:17:03]: We [0:17:05, 0:17:05]: We see [0:17:06, 0:17:06]: Twelve [0:17:07, 0:17:10]: Twelve million seven hundred and forty four thousand six forty seven. [0:17:12, 0:17:13]: Expenditures. [0:17:15, 0:17:16]: We s we expend it. [0:17:19, 0:17:23]: Eight milyen nine hundred seventy nine thousand nine seventy nine. [0:17:23, 0:17:25]: It gave us a difference between [0:17:25, 0:17:27]: Revenue and expenditures or three [0:17:28, 0:17:29]: Point eight million. [0:17:30, 0:17:31]: With that. [0:17:33, 0:17:35]: We had a few sales of assets. [0:17:35, 0:17:36]: Think it was [0:17:37, 0:17:38]: Two or three trucks, I think. [0:17:39, 0:17:41]: From uh Public Works. It was um [0:17:42, 0:17:43]: Six thousand three hundred eighty. [0:17:45, 0:17:46]: A transfer is out. [0:17:46, 0:17:50]: Which this is for um our loan that we pay on the building. [0:17:51, 0:17:52]: to one point two milyen [0:17:53, 0:17:55]: It gave us a difference of [0:17:56, 0:17:58]: One point two million. [0:17:59, 0:18:00]: And then it gave us a net change. [0:18:01, 0:18:04]: An excess of revenue over expenditure is two point [0:18:05, 0:18:05]: Six million. [0:18:09, 0:18:09]: Next slide. [0:18:12, 0:18:13]: It talks about I guess those [0:18:14, 0:18:16]: A snapshot of the FY twenty. [0:18:16, 0:18:20]: General Fund Revenues comparison to FY nineteen. [0:18:21, 0:18:21]: Um [0:18:22, 0:18:24]: Like I say in the previous slide, our revenues [0:18:25, 0:18:26]: Ві [0:18:27, 0:18:28]: Right in twelve point [0:18:28, 0:18:29]: Seven million. [0:18:29, 0:18:31]: Last year was nine point eight. [0:18:32, 0:18:34]: They gave us a difference of about um [0:18:35, 0:18:35]: Three million. [0:18:37, 0:18:39]: Only thing about that we only had um [0:18:40, 0:18:43]: Or as uh our investment income was probably the biggest uh [0:18:44, 0:18:44]: Change in that. [0:18:46, 0:18:49]: That basically was due to some um [0:18:50, 0:18:50]: Oh [0:18:53, 0:18:57]: It it wasn't that significant. It's just it's you you can tell by the amount. [0:18:57, 0:18:59]: Of investment that we receive. [0:19:00, 0:19:00]: For his income. [0:19:03, 0:19:04]: Next slide. [0:19:05, 0:19:06]: This is the um [0:19:07, 0:19:09]: FY twenty general fund expenditures. [0:19:11, 0:19:12]: This year we was uh [0:19:13, 0:19:13]: Eight. [0:19:14, 0:19:15]: Eight point nine million. [0:19:16, 0:19:18]: Last year was eight point seven. [0:19:19, 0:19:21]: Give us a difference of uh [0:19:21, 0:19:24]: Two hundred and ninety nine thousand six twenty. So we've pretty much on [0:19:25, 0:19:28]: We spent a pretty much the same as we did last year. [0:19:33, 0:19:40]: This is a um next slide is 2020 enterprise funds on our statement of revenues and expenditures. [0:19:40, 0:19:45]: This shows the water and sewer fund, solid waste fund, and stormwater farm. [0:19:46, 0:19:47]: Uh revenues. [0:19:48, 0:19:50]: Warner Sewer came out to be [0:19:51, 0:19:52]: Four point eight. [0:19:53, 0:19:55]: Thought the waste was one point two. [0:19:56, 0:20:01]: Stormwater was uh one million. It was a total of about seven point one million. [0:20:02, 0:20:03]: Expenditures. [0:20:06, 0:20:07]: We had um [0:20:08, 0:20:09]: For Warren Soul. [0:20:09, 0:20:12]: Came out to be about four point four point three. [0:20:13, 0:20:16]: Solid waste was about one point six. [0:20:16, 0:20:17]: And that's stone water. [0:20:20, 0:20:21]: Expenditures was five hundred [0:20:22, 0:20:23]: And fifty eight thousand three oh seven. [0:20:24, 0:20:26]: Give us a total of expenditures for enterprise. [0:20:27, 0:20:28]: That's six [0:20:29, 0:20:31]: Million three hundred eighty eight thousand eight fifty two. [0:20:32, 0:20:33]: So [0:20:33, 0:20:36]: With their operating income loss. [0:20:36, 0:20:37]: Yeah, um [0:20:40, 0:20:41]: Five hundred. [0:20:42, 0:20:45]: Fifty four thousand seventy three for Warner Seur. [0:20:46, 0:20:47]: A lot of ways. [0:20:49, 0:20:51]: The spinach is a little more than uh [0:20:52, 0:20:56]: Uh revenue was a negative three hundred and thirty seven. [0:20:56, 0:20:57]: Two thirty five. [0:20:58, 0:21:01]: A stormwater was four hundred and sixty six thousand five seventy. [0:21:02, 0:21:04]: Give us a a total of six hundred and eighty three. [0:21:05, 0:21:07]: eighty three thousand four nine. [0:21:14, 0:21:15]: Graph shows um [0:21:18, 0:21:19]: The vision of um [0:21:20, 0:21:26]: The slide before it just shows the water and sewed, solid waste and storm storm water just gives you a visual look of. [0:21:27, 0:21:28]: Of um [0:21:29, 0:21:31]: of of of this um [0:21:32, 0:21:34]: Water sure in a solid waste and [0:21:35, 0:21:36]: Stonewall. [0:21:37, 0:21:38]: Just a comparison. [0:21:39, 0:21:41]: From FY twenty to FY nineteen. [0:21:44, 0:21:45]: Twenty twenty nine major [0:21:46, 0:21:48]: Enterprise funds unaudit statement. [0:21:48, 0:21:50]: of revenues and expenditures. [0:21:50, 0:21:56]: This shows our community center, which is the Ted Ted Strickland, and then our conference center, which is the Murr Manners. [0:21:57, 0:21:58]: Uh, because of the covet. [0:22:01, 0:22:02]: Uh community center. [0:22:02, 0:22:05]: Revenue was negative. [0:22:06, 0:22:07]: Four point nine. [0:22:08, 0:22:08]: uh [0:22:08, 0:22:10]: Four thousand eight hundred and ninety two dollars. [0:22:11, 0:22:14]: And then a conference center was just twenty two thousand. [0:22:14, 0:22:15]: Mm thirty eight. [0:22:16, 0:22:19]: Gave us a total revenue for [0:22:21, 0:22:23]: At seventeen thousand one forty seven. [0:22:24, 0:22:26]: Expenditures for the community center was [0:22:28, 0:22:29]: Forty four thousand. [0:22:30, 0:22:31]: One fifteen. [0:22:32, 0:22:35]: And the conference center was six hundred forty seven thousand four hundred fifty two. [0:22:37, 0:22:41]: So that gives us a uh operating income loss of in total. [0:22:43, 0:22:46]: A negative six hundred and seventy four thousand four twenty one. [0:22:50, 0:22:52]: Twenty twenty splash four update. [0:22:55, 0:22:56]: Capitator. [0:22:57, 0:22:57]: Row [0:22:59, 0:23:00]: We actually spent a hundred and thirty four [0:23:02, 0:23:04]: Thousand seven hundred seven dollars. [0:23:05, 0:23:07]: A bounce left on that to complete that. [0:23:07, 0:23:10]: That particular project is two point eight million. [0:23:11, 0:23:13]: A public works facility, we spent about [0:23:14, 0:23:18]: One point six million. We have about nine hundred eighty three thousand seven sixty three left. [0:23:19, 0:23:21]: To complete our public works facility. [0:23:23, 0:23:25]: A new parts equipment for Rees Creek Bridge. [0:23:26, 0:23:30]: We in twenty twenty we actually spent four hundred and forty six. [0:23:30, 0:23:32]: Thousand six fifty eight. [0:23:32, 0:23:36]: We have a balance left to complete that project, seven hundred. [0:23:36, 0:23:38]: Ninety five thousand four thirty seven. [0:23:40, 0:23:42]: Rest of our splash for expenses [0:23:44, 0:23:45]: On various projects. [0:23:46, 0:23:48]: We actually spent eight hundred thirty seven. [0:23:48, 0:23:50]: Thousand four twenty five. [0:23:50, 0:23:52]: We have one point [0:23:52, 0:23:53]: Три мільян лев. [0:23:53, 0:23:54]: To spin for just [0:23:55, 0:24:03]: Other splash expenses. A lot of that is some of the um amphitheater expenses. [0:24:07, 0:24:09]: So it gives us a total of actually twenty, twenty [0:24:10, 0:24:11]: We spent three three million. [0:24:12, 0:24:13]: And we have a balance left. [0:24:14, 0:24:15]: That's five point six million. [0:24:16, 0:24:17]: I mean I'm sorry, five point nine million. [0:24:22, 0:24:27]: Looking at this year, we're only looking at um two months up to February of this year. [0:24:31, 0:24:32]: We have um [0:24:35, 0:24:40]: Not ha we have not spent that much, but we've looking at the general fund, the revenue. [0:24:41, 0:24:42]: versus expenses. We had [0:24:44, 0:24:45]: Uh budget remaining. [0:24:47, 0:24:49]: We have a difference of eight hundred, seven thousand. [0:24:50, 0:24:51]: Fifty eight. [0:24:52, 0:24:52]: A sour. [0:24:53, 0:24:54]: Is it eighty eight thousand? [0:24:55, 0:24:56]: Eight sixty four. [0:24:57, 0:24:58]: Water revenue. [0:25:00, 0:25:01]: Difference of one thirty eight. [0:25:02, 0:25:02]: Four eight. [0:25:03, 0:25:05]: Stormwater revenues forty five. [0:25:07, 0:25:08]: Thousand one thirty eight. [0:25:09, 0:25:10]: Saw the ways. [0:25:11, 0:25:12]: Two hundred thirteen thousand [0:25:13, 0:25:14]: Eight sixty eight. [0:25:16, 0:25:17]: Conference center revenue. [0:25:18, 0:25:19]: Yeah, the difference. [0:25:19, 0:25:21]: eighty four thousand two fifty five. [0:25:23, 0:25:27]: Community centers at two thousand six oh f six o five. [0:25:28, 0:25:30]: Нітеатр комплекс. [0:25:31, 0:25:31]: Um [0:25:33, 0:25:35]: Uh fine which is new. [0:25:36, 0:25:38]: Is still at um zero. [0:25:38, 0:25:43]: Uh we have not spent anything because we have not completed that project. Uh this would be the fund. [0:25:43, 0:25:44]: There will be [0:25:45, 0:25:45]: Oh [0:25:45, 0:25:52]: doing some of the uh doing a lot of the expenses. Everything far as dealing with the amphitheater after the project's completed would be [0:25:53, 0:25:56]: Our revenue and expenditures will be coming from this particular fund. [0:26:00, 0:26:03]: And that concludes the financial update. [0:26:05, 0:26:07]: Hey, hey John, uh Mayor Ford here. Um [0:26:08, 0:26:12]: As I look at the uh the general fund expense expenditures. [0:26:12, 0:26:26]: In twenty twenty seems as though that the there we spended more money in twenty twenty than we did in uh two thousand nineteen on several different categories. And I'm I guess I'm just trying to figure out how how did that how did that come about if we had [0:26:26, 0:26:30]: our facilities closed down for most well mostly year. [0:26:31, 0:26:40]: This is I think that what the show what it shows is, and I'll let John answer the question, but what it shows is a surplus. [0:26:40, 0:26:50]: It shows a surplus in fund balance overall. That number, that last number, that 2.5. Now these are unaudited. I wanna just say that. Okay. It shows a surplus in fund balance. [0:26:51, 0:26:58]: Yeah, that yeah, you you're you're right. That that two point five, I I I stopped it, you know, when looking at the statement. [0:26:59, 0:27:00]: Um [0:27:01, 0:27:03]: John Farn statement of revenue and expenditures. [0:27:04, 0:27:11]: I stopped it at net changes. I didn't take it all the way to uh to what actually the fund balance would be because that would be the difference between. [0:27:12, 0:27:13]: Last year and this year. [0:27:14, 0:27:17]: plus whatever this um the amount of the net change would be. [0:27:18, 0:27:19]: Uh I know uh [0:27:20, 0:27:20]: With [0:27:21, 0:27:22]: And that change. [0:27:23, 0:27:27]: I stopped it there so it can stay on audited until we can finish the audit in June. [0:27:28, 0:27:33]: Because I know some of that two point five, two point six million, we're gonna have to take care of uh [0:27:33, 0:27:35]: A conference center in a um [0:27:36, 0:27:37]: In a um [0:27:38, 0:27:39]: The community center. [0:27:41, 0:27:42]: They are tied to the um [0:27:43, 0:27:44]: to the general phone. [0:27:44, 0:27:47]: And we need Jennifer helps out that that that [0:27:47, 0:27:49]: those non major enterprise funds. [0:27:50, 0:27:56]: Let me make sure I want to make sure I answer Mayor Foy's question. If we look at the expenditure lines or the expenditure bucket there. [0:27:57, 0:27:59]: General government shows [0:27:59, 0:28:01]: А бюджет три по. [0:28:02, 0:28:05]: But it's but actual expenditures at three point three. [0:28:05, 0:28:17]: Yes. Okay. So that that shows that we budgeted a certain amount but spent less than that. Is that correct, John? That's that's correct. And that's that's that's and that's due to the um [0:28:18, 0:28:20]: to to covert that's due to [0:28:21, 0:28:21]: Uh [0:28:23, 0:28:26]: not spending normally what we would have spent um [0:28:26, 0:28:29]: Certain probably buying certain items or um [0:28:30, 0:28:30]: Oh. [0:28:31, 0:28:31]: Oh no. [0:28:31, 0:28:33]: But for buildings and stuff. So um [0:28:34, 0:28:36]: That's why it was a look it's it's on the budget. [0:28:38, 0:28:45]: So the total budget, the total budget shows a surplus in terms of more revenue. [0:28:45, 0:28:47]: than expenditures. [0:28:47, 0:28:51]: Again, this is unaudited. The pro the auditors are going through their process right now. [0:28:52, 0:28:53]: That's good. [0:28:53, 0:28:57]: And that and and and and that's due to when you look at the revenues. Um [0:28:58, 0:29:00]: We had about [0:29:01, 0:29:04]: I'd say about five five million for uh the loss. [0:29:05, 0:29:09]: So it's about a f that's about four hundred and thirty some thousand um monthly for the loss. [0:29:10, 0:29:12]: Um we got um [0:29:13, 0:29:15]: George Powell [0:29:15, 0:29:17]: uh electric franchise check in. [0:29:17, 0:29:25]: That was uh a little over, um not as much as we anticipated, but it was it was over the amount that was budgeted. So that was good. [0:29:26, 0:29:26]: Yeah. [0:29:27, 0:29:32]: We had a little uptick on some of the occupational tax um revenue. [0:29:33, 0:29:33]: Which is [0:29:34, 0:29:36]: Which we anticipate it. [0:29:36, 0:29:40]: But uh we didn't hit the mark that we we thought that's because of the covert. [0:29:41, 0:29:42]: But overall [0:29:43, 0:29:46]: twelve point twelve point seven revenue. [0:29:46, 0:29:49]: Over what was budget eleven, eleven, six? [0:29:51, 0:29:59]: Okay. I got something else. Maybe I missed this. The CARES funding that we received, how is that identified in here or is it identified? [0:29:59, 0:30:00]: That's the in and out. [0:30:01, 0:30:02]: 'Cause you have to remember we um [0:30:03, 0:30:05]: We brought in one point three. [0:30:05, 0:30:07]: We paid about [0:30:09, 0:30:09]: Well, it's a little bit. [0:30:10, 0:30:11]: More than one point three. [0:30:12, 0:30:13]: Uh [0:30:13, 0:30:15]: We paid about two hundred. [0:30:16, 0:30:18]: Two hundred and fifty thousand for um [0:30:19, 0:30:22]: covert related IT um [0:30:23, 0:30:27]: related items and then we we move one point three out. [0:30:28, 0:30:31]: to the um Henry County uh Chamber of Commerce. [0:30:31, 0:30:33]: For them to take care of um [0:30:34, 0:30:34]: Oh. [0:30:36, 0:30:38]: I'm trying to remember the the committee um [0:30:39, 0:30:46]: Well we had we had a whisper right it was a third party entity that we had to use the Henry Chanty Chamber of Commerce in order to [0:30:47, 0:30:50]: facilitate the funds for small business support. [0:30:50, 0:30:55]: And then also uh some funds for individual support via. [0:30:55, 0:30:57]: адишно нон профит [0:30:58, 0:31:04]: Um in in in the CARES Act funds, there were about a hundred and eight small businesses. [0:31:05, 0:31:11]: That received funds from the city of Stockbridge at a maximum of ten thousand dollars. [0:31:11, 0:31:15]: Resulting in about one point one million dollars. That was actually [0:31:15, 0:31:16]: uh provided. [0:31:17, 0:31:20]: to local business support from the CARES Act funds. [0:31:20, 0:31:21]: That's correct. [0:31:21, 0:31:25]: And when that came in, it came in, we we had created a uh [0:31:25, 0:31:29]: The Karees that he tr the Care Z has his own funds. It was like a [0:31:29, 0:31:31]: Passed through. So we use that. [0:31:31, 0:31:33]: particular fund to pass the money through. [0:31:35, 0:31:37]: I think Councilman Alexander, I'm I'm seeing, I'm sorry. [0:31:38, 0:31:44]: Yeah, I can't s I can't see him. Is is he he has a thing Councilman Alexander had a question or a a comment. [0:31:44, 0:31:45]: All right. [0:31:46, 0:31:59]: Uh thank you. Uh uh Mayor Pro Tem. I'm sorry, Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. Thank you, um Mayor and uh Mr. Knight and thank you for recognizing me. I think uh Mr. Wiggins, I thank you for your report. [0:31:59, 0:32:02]: And your confirmation that the city is growing. [0:32:02, 0:32:05]: Uh which indicated that we received [0:32:05, 0:32:09]: Over a мільйон долар ревеню. [0:32:09, 0:32:12]: growth over what our projection was. That says [0:32:13, 0:32:16]: Definitively that the city is growing, revenue is growing. [0:32:17, 0:32:18]: Uh you also stated [0:32:18, 0:32:20]: That um you know we [0:32:20, 0:32:23]: are moving in the right direction in accomplishing [0:32:24, 0:32:41]: uh certain task uh for the city. And it was great as the mayor indicated that we were able to act as a pass-through for the$1.3 million, which helped out 108 uh businesses uh in the city, as well as nonprofits, because our citizens [0:32:41, 0:32:43]: or or hurting in the community. So [0:32:44, 0:32:46]: We we overall we executed. [0:32:46, 0:32:48]: Uh, those programs at a very [0:32:49, 0:32:50]: Hi, right. Hi, uh [0:32:51, 0:32:52]: Rate and we were able to move. [0:32:53, 0:32:56]: through uh some of the things that we needed to move through. [0:32:56, 0:32:59]: What I would like to know is uh [0:33:00, 0:33:01]: The actual balances. [0:33:02, 0:33:05]: Uh in the splaster counts. Do you have those? [0:33:09, 0:33:11]: Um I would have to [0:33:17, 0:33:18]: Mm-hmm. [0:33:20, 0:33:20]: Yeah. [0:33:23, 0:33:43]: So you want to know the balance of each of uh the the county? Right. Starting with splot three, just maybe you can get it back to us, splash three, splash four, splash five. Yeah, uh, you know, even of what we've collected through uh this period now that the county has started collecting. And at this point, Mr. Knight, the year has already passed. So what the city should be [0:33:43, 0:33:50]: collecting at this point is that correct in well the probably in April or so April and April I believe April [0:33:50, 0:33:58]: Okay, so we're about to start. We're at the precipice of about to start splash, correct. Right, splash five. So additional. [0:33:58, 0:34:00]: uh revenue will be coming in toward the city. [0:34:00, 0:34:02]: Найшн ає. [0:34:02, 0:34:06]: And I'm gonna point this out because I say it every single year. [0:34:06, 0:34:07]: Ви [0:34:07, 0:34:10]: Again, these numbers are very much unaudited. [0:34:10, 0:34:14]: But we're looking at yet another two million dollar surplus. [0:34:15, 0:34:18]: After the numbers are audited, I'm sure that could go down a bit. [0:34:18, 0:34:21]: Never know, it might actually go up a bit. [0:34:21, 0:34:31]: But it indicates once again sound financial management. And uh based on uh Mr. Knight's comments, which are three point eight to [0:34:31, 0:34:33]: Uh was actually um [0:34:33, 0:34:34]: The difference between the actual [0:34:35, 0:34:36]: Expenditures and then [0:34:36, 0:34:38]: Uh, what we actually [0:34:38, 0:34:43]: um you know the actual expenses then you know we're looking [0:34:43, 0:34:43]: Straight [0:34:44, 0:34:45]: Yeah. [0:34:45, 0:34:46]: in in things that we're doing. [0:34:46, 0:34:49]: And we are able to move forward executing. [0:34:50, 0:34:55]: additional projects that we have uh online, such as the Bringing the Culture Art System. [0:34:56, 0:35:01]: uh uh a center here the carry mehamery cultural arts center here next is our going project [0:35:02, 0:35:02]: And also [0:35:03, 0:35:05]: This is the perfect time. [0:35:05, 0:35:07]: To start the Start Bridge Police Department. [0:35:08, 0:35:10]: Now we've been talking about well, what would we do? [0:35:11, 0:35:12]: But how would it work? [0:35:12, 0:35:13]: And [0:35:13, 0:35:17]: I'm not one of the people that's gonna uh you know have the skies falling. [0:35:17, 0:35:37]: We have to do this or we have to do that to impact the citizens because I see this every single year that we have uh a two million dollar surplus. Mr. Wiggins, again, that was 2.6 million uh unaudited at this point that uh you had seen properly uh in your um an [0:35:37, 0:35:46]: Analysis. Give us the top number again, which is the actual revenue, and then the bottom number, which is the expenses, so folks can understand the spread. [0:35:46, 0:35:47]: But uh clearly. [0:35:48, 0:35:49]: Yes, the um [0:35:50, 0:35:51]: The revenue [0:35:51, 0:35:52]: Stands at twelve. [0:35:53, 0:35:56]: Twelve twelve million seven hundred and forty four thousand six forty seven. [0:35:57, 0:35:57]: Mm-hmm. [0:35:58, 0:35:59]: And then you have your expenses coming in. [0:36:00, 0:36:00]: Yeah. [0:36:01, 0:36:04]: Eight million nine hundred seventy nine. [0:36:04, 0:36:09]: Nine seventy nine. And then they gave us a difference there of about three point eight million. [0:36:09, 0:36:11]: And with that. [0:36:11, 0:36:13]: difference between the revenue and expenditures. [0:36:14, 0:36:15]: Uh [0:36:15, 0:36:19]: We put in, we we always, you know, take out, you know, you transfer out. [0:36:19, 0:36:20]: At this point, which is [0:36:21, 0:36:23]: The one point two, which is for our loan for the um [0:36:23, 0:36:25]: Payment of the city hall. [0:36:26, 0:36:26]: Mm-hmm. [0:36:26, 0:36:27]: And [0:36:28, 0:36:30]: You also have your proceeds from the sale of assets. [0:36:30, 0:36:32]: It's not much, but [0:36:32, 0:36:33]: Um [0:36:33, 0:36:34]: You have to put that in there. [0:36:35, 0:36:37]: That gives us about two uh two point six million. [0:36:38, 0:36:42]: Absolutely. And Mr. Knighton, what was the actual city budget this year? [0:36:45, 0:36:53]: The bot the the top line the re the uh for twenty twenty? Twenty for twenty twenty for the the projection for this year. [0:36:54, 0:37:01]: Uh twenty twenty one budget was twelve was it twelve point six? Yes, twelve twelve point twelve, twelve. [0:37:01, 0:37:05]: Twelve million seven hundred and fifty nine thousand thirty seven. That's for job. [0:37:06, 0:37:08]: For twenty fiscal year twenty one. [0:37:08, 0:37:28]: Yes. Right. So in actuality, uh uh the it shows the work that was put into the budget was very sound because we are, you know, we didn't uh uh we didn't aggressively put an aggressive number out there to pursue the new projects and new developments. This is a actual number that came [0:37:28, 0:37:33]: in that we know that twelve point seven million actually came in. [0:37:33, 0:37:34]: So this year's budget. [0:37:35, 0:37:40]: even though it shows an increase from the previous year is perfectly in line. [0:37:40, 0:37:44]: uh with what uh our city budget is this year. [0:37:44, 0:38:01]: And as growth continues to arrive in the community, these numbers continue to reflect aggressive growth in the city. So this council being very aggressive in terms of the police department, the Kerry Mayhemric Cultural Arts Center, the Amphitheater Project are all [0:38:02, 0:38:06]: backed by solid financials. So tell us again what the uh [0:38:06, 0:38:09]: W do you have a ending number for the fund balance for the year? [0:38:12, 0:38:13]: For for twenty twenty. [0:38:13, 0:38:18]: Yeah the the the the g the the the uh the fund balance [0:38:18, 0:38:22]: for the city uh in our accounts at the end of the year. [0:38:24, 0:38:26]: Where's it staying now as far as being [0:38:27, 0:38:31]: Of course I would stay on either is it's two point six. [0:38:31, 0:38:34]: Yeah. [0:38:35, 0:38:38]: He's talking about the total. He's talking about the total fund balance. [0:38:39, 0:38:43]: from uh what what would have been last year's number. Oh, okay. [0:38:44, 0:38:47]: plus what would be this year's number, presumably. [0:38:48, 0:38:49]: Right. [0:38:52, 0:38:53]: No [0:38:54, 0:38:58]: I have to try to look it up, but I fun bats from last year, I mean it's about [0:38:59, 0:39:02]: stands at it was standing at about nineteen nineteen million. [0:39:03, 0:39:07]: So with this, this'll take you up to about twenty one million if if you [0:39:08, 0:39:10]: If this was the actual number. [0:39:11, 0:39:12]: А не чан. [0:39:12, 0:39:17]: You would you would add that to the fund balance from last year, which is about nineteen million. [0:39:17, 0:39:18]: Yeah, about twenty one million. [0:39:19, 0:39:25]: Well, I think again, uh, this council has made uh it needs to have a discussion as we talked about. [0:39:26, 0:39:28]: To actually not put the money. [0:39:28, 0:39:48]: uh in fund balance, but we're actually pursuing projects uh in the city. And that's something that the council would have to decide. So instead of putting this extra money into fund balance, taking the fund balance actually uh up, we had talked about uh putting start putting this money uh in capital in a [0:39:48, 0:39:50]: Capital improvements budget. [0:39:50, 0:39:56]: uh for the city. So you know, the question is always we're gonna deplete our fund balance. Well [0:39:56, 0:40:02]: It it's pretty clear that we have excess funds in the fund balance. [0:40:03, 0:40:10]: And those funds could be used uh ru wisely because if we have a twelve million dollar city budget. [0:40:10, 0:40:12]: We got one year in the bank. [0:40:12, 0:40:13]: So even if we took [0:40:14, 0:40:15]: Um [0:40:15, 0:40:21]: Our eighty nine million dollars out of the fund balance, we would still have a yearly budget. [0:40:21, 0:40:31]: in the bank. Most cities would be happy with three to six, three months to six months, having 12 months. That is unheard of in some instances. And for us to do that. [0:40:31, 0:40:36]: We have to start planning to move these projects out like we've been able to do. [0:40:36, 0:40:56]: And then again, moving this money to the capital improvements budget allows us to more effectively use these dollars as the improvements uh for the city continue. So I certainly would like for this council to go ahead and act and move forward with instead of just throwing money in the fund balance, being proactive, putting [0:40:56, 0:41:09]: the money in the capital improvements budget so that we can actually execute these projects without uh it being said, oh, they're taking it out of fund balance. They're taking it out of fund balance, which is has excess money in it. [0:41:10, 0:41:18]: Let me mention let me mention also though that um of course there was commitment of yes, yes out of the for the amphitheater, the five million. [0:41:18, 0:41:26]: The amphitheater from fund balance. So that's we we have to calculate that in as well. Um and then of course, you know, as we go forward. [0:41:27, 0:41:31]: Um with bonds, those items are going to be coming out of starting in August or so. [0:41:32, 0:41:35]: Um we have to budget for that uh in um [0:41:36, 0:41:37]: Uh August of twenty [0:41:38, 0:41:38]: One. [0:41:40, 0:41:44]: Obviously twenty two, excuse me. [0:41:44, 0:41:49]: So in this coming budget as we go through that, we'll have to plan for that as well. But the [0:41:49, 0:41:53]: The amphitheater commitment was out of fund balance and so that needs to be calculated as well. [0:41:54, 0:42:10]: And the thing is is as well is that uh obviously in the next couple of days we'll be talking about these particular projects, getting briefings from our professionals on that, and then further discussion of of how we want to finance things and what we wanna do as a collective group. So there'll be more discussion about it in the next couple of days as well. [0:42:10, 0:42:16]: Well, I just I just want to finally say, but I just want to thank the staff and everybody for guiding us through. [0:42:16, 0:42:20]: Uh Mr. Knight for doing an excellent job guiding the city through [0:42:20, 0:42:22]: This pass uh through the pandemic. [0:42:23, 0:42:27]: And just doing such an excellent job on the financials. We are strong as ever. [0:42:27, 0:42:30]: And that's because of the work of the staff. So thank you. [0:42:32, 0:42:37]: Mayor, I like that. If if anybody hasn't raised a hand, I like that. [0:42:37, 0:42:40]: We'll go right there. I I'll go right here, sir. [0:42:41, 0:42:47]: Uh yeah, I would I would hope that uh when we give when we're giving a um presentation by [0:42:48, 0:42:52]: our finance is that we're giving accurate numbers and not what [0:42:53, 0:42:55]: Not ball part figures. [0:42:55, 0:43:00]: Because we didn't take into account the five million dollars that has been a uh [0:43:00, 0:43:04]: has been allotted to for the amphitheater. [0:43:04, 0:43:20]: And when we talk about a budget that was set for twelve point uh whatever million it was, and then we got about it wasn't a two point something million dollar gain. I wish our finance person, because when I look when I'm hearing the numbers and looking at what we're what we have there. [0:43:20, 0:43:23]: I'm trying to figure out in and [0:43:23, 0:43:32]: Where is the two million dollars that Mr. Alexander had just just alluded to? Um, so I I would like for those figures to be. [0:43:33, 0:43:36]: point on figures that we get from our finance because [0:43:37, 0:43:55]: roundabouts and almost and could be's and all of that. That's not how I would like for us to operate. I would like for us to operate on specifics. Now I do agree that we do do need to start moving monies over to capital improvement uh project uh uh um [0:43:55, 0:43:56]: Um [0:43:57, 0:43:59]: A category for that versus [0:44:00, 0:44:13]: continue to move in money from fund balance itself, that those that any any funds that over over expenditures that come into the city um any funds that come into the city that we do move those over. And I think we all had a discussion on that. [0:44:14, 0:44:21]: But for me, when it comes to understanding where we stand, those to to to accurately project. [0:44:22, 0:44:27]: Where we need to go because we just came out of twenty twenty, which was an interesting year as it was. [0:44:27, 0:44:28]: And [0:44:29, 0:44:36]: Those numbers aren't as great as I thought they would be, but I still would like accurate numbers, specific numbers. [0:44:36, 0:44:44]: Uh not around nineteen thousand or nineteen million of this and that accurate numbers in order that we as a council can see. [0:44:44, 0:44:51]: And understand what we project out and where we move with capital improvement projects and all this, that we're dealing with sound numbers. [0:44:52, 0:44:59]: not approximates. So and that's that's my take on it that we can get some sound numbers uh in order to make uh [0:45:00, 0:45:03]: uh sound decisions on how we how we move forward with our budget. [0:45:04, 0:45:05]: Thank you. [0:45:05, 0:45:06]: Right. [0:45:06, 0:45:08]: Um uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [0:45:08, 0:45:09]: Uh thank you, Mayor. [0:45:10, 0:45:16]: Uh Mr. Wiggins, uh I wanna commend you as well as um other council members. [0:45:16, 0:45:20]: Uh I do have a question for you and Mr. Nine as far as [0:45:20, 0:45:24]: uh timeline for the audit and and I think what [0:45:24, 0:45:28]: Uh, mayor pro tem Alexander and Councilman Blount indicated. [0:45:29, 0:45:30]: I think a really true. [0:45:31, 0:45:32]: Uh comment. [0:45:32, 0:45:44]: But I I would imagine that uh as far as the movement of uh fund balance funds to capital improvement project, I would imagine this would not happen until [0:45:45, 0:45:55]: uh until the audit until we know uh real numbers. So Mr. Knight, can you respond to the process as far as if you know a date for the audit and and and speak to [0:45:56, 0:45:58]: That process as to [0:45:58, 0:46:02]: when we probably would be able to to do that. [0:46:03, 0:46:11]: Yeah, the the audit is is under underway right now typically and and they go through extensive process, probably [0:46:11, 0:46:15]: We probably would know by probably May, you think, John? [0:46:16, 0:46:27]: June June 30th is June 30th is a deadline, but yeah, we we did receive we did receive an extension, but um we're pretty much on target, yeah, to uh uh [0:46:28, 0:46:32]: Turn up I audited in on June thirtieth. Uh by May [0:46:32, 0:46:34]: We should know um [0:46:35, 0:46:37]: We should know a better uh account. [0:46:38, 0:46:41]: Oh, where the archer archer is going with the numbers. [0:46:41, 0:46:51]: And and and to that extent, you know, and and of course, you know, typically we have the whole presentation and we'll you know, once the audit is completed, of course we'll provide information to you. We receive the report from [0:46:52, 0:46:53]: Maldon and Jenkins. [0:46:53, 0:46:59]: As we go through these numbers here, these are numbers based on uh the accounting principles. [0:47:00, 0:47:05]: And and basically expenditures and revenues is what we're looking at right here. The auditor will go through. [0:47:06, 0:47:07]: We'll verify everything. [0:47:07, 0:47:12]: But generally these numbers are fairly close, but I would caution and wait until the audit is completed. [0:47:12, 0:47:14]: Because that is the official document. [0:47:14, 0:47:20]: to make some determination about um what amount should be shifted into a capital improvement. [0:47:20, 0:47:22]: Um bucket, if you will. [0:47:23, 0:47:31]: Uh Mayor, I I just wanted to thank um Mr Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Knight for that comment. I I would not want us to get hung up today. [0:47:32, 0:47:34]: Um when and how much [0:47:34, 0:47:37]: Uh you know, we we move from one [0:47:38, 0:47:44]: uh financial to the other, but I think it's a good conversation and I think these are great answers. But [0:47:44, 0:47:47]: Uh let's not get caught up on that just yet. [0:47:47, 0:47:49]: I think uh today. [0:47:49, 0:47:51]: Uh receiving information is good. [0:47:51, 0:47:52]: And um [0:47:53, 0:48:06]: So I I would just recommend, you know, we wait until the audit. I think the council then will come back and have those kind of discussions as far as um, you know, cap and improvement projects. Um, Mayor, I yield back. [0:48:06, 0:48:11]: Oh thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Any other comments from Mr. Wiggins here before we move on to the next topic? [0:48:11, 0:48:13]: Anybody else? [0:48:14, 0:48:20]: Okay. Yes, Mayor, if I would to understand I I concur with uh Councilman Thomas. My [0:48:21, 0:48:25]: My indication early was not to actually move any funds at this point. [0:48:25, 0:48:31]: It was just to indicate that that was the thinking and uh the direction that we needed to go in. [0:48:31, 0:48:36]: once uh the numbers are confirmed. So yes, that's the case. I I agree with that. [0:48:36, 0:48:41]: Appreciate it. Okay, good deal. Another comments, Mr. Wiggins, thanks a lot for your presentation. We appreciate it. [0:48:41, 0:48:43]: And we'll move on to uh [0:48:43, 0:48:47]: Our judge, Judge Matt McCord, sir. Uh are you online? [0:48:50, 0:48:53]: I do not see uh oh there he is. Okay, there he is. [0:48:53, 0:48:53]: Okay. [0:48:55, 0:48:58]: There you go for outstanding. Sure is good to be with y'all. [0:49:00, 0:49:01]: Outstanding. Appreciate it. Good to see you. [0:49:02, 0:49:11]: Good to see you. Thank you, Judge McCor. Thank you for joining us this morning. Um, obviously uh we wanted to certainly have a conversation with you and you share your thoughts. [0:49:12, 0:49:14]: With respect to um [0:49:14, 0:49:15]: The municipal court. [0:49:16, 0:49:21]: Um, obviously you all have have been able to to operate in this covet environment as we all have in a different way. [0:49:22, 0:49:25]: Uh, but with the advent of a police department. [0:49:26, 0:49:28]: Uh which is on the horizon now. [0:49:28, 0:49:33]: We wanted to make sure that at this point, um, in terms of our overall planning. [0:49:34, 0:49:39]: for the city and the beginning of a police department that we had a conversation with you and you were able to [0:49:39, 0:49:45]: um uh directly share your thoughts based on previous experience. [0:49:45, 0:49:54]: Um and also uh any thoughts you have with respect to establishing the peace police department and then overall for the city and then all on obviously [0:49:54, 0:49:57]: How you see that impacting municipal court? [0:49:58, 0:49:59]: Um [0:49:59, 0:50:19]: Sure, thank you for letting me come. And and I didn't get to say this the night that I was sworn in. I I'm uh I I'm I didn't want to waste anybody's time that night, but I'm so grateful to be a part of uh what you do and and to be affiliated with you and to be a part of of serving the the people in Stockbridge. Uh I I I think very highly of each of you uh and I want you to know. [0:50:19, 0:50:25]: know that you have in me one of your biggest cheerleaders uh in this county uh everywhere I go. So [0:50:25, 0:50:33]: Uh I'll start there. I um and and also it's good to see my old friend Quentin Washington uh from Governor's Honors in nineteen ninety when he and I were [0:50:34, 0:50:36]: uh in high school uh [0:50:36, 0:50:43]: back back in the same place and and working together. So uh having said that, let let me let me first [0:50:43, 0:50:50]: uh say this. I'm so excited that that we're talking about having a police department uh department. It's something that I I think we've needed. It's something that I have wanted [0:50:51, 0:50:54]: to happen and have been been kind of quietly waiting. [0:50:54, 0:50:56]: Um I what I [0:50:56, 0:51:16]: propose to do is to sort of give you my thoughts and then answer any questions you may have for me. The first one is this. I think if we're going to do it, we need to do it well and we need to make sure that we do it at full force. I think halfway doing the job is dangerous because we we frankly we don't know what kind of cooperation we're going to have from the county going forward. And so we need to be able to do this and do it well and do it full [0:51:16, 0:51:22]: full capacity uh because once we start down this road there really isn't any uh doing it halfway. [0:51:23, 0:51:32]: Uh with that said, I have done some research and reached out to some other agencies that have handled similar uh issues, you know. [0:51:33, 0:51:35]: And and and um [0:51:36, 0:51:40]: In two tausend fourteen, when our court was at full capacity. [0:51:41, 0:51:46]: Uh, that year we we the county had issued six thousand twenty-seven tickets. [0:51:47, 0:51:49]: Uh by the end of that year the [0:51:50, 0:51:51]: Total fees paid. [0:51:52, 0:51:56]: uh based out of those tickets was one miljon one hundred seventy seven thousand dollars [0:51:56, 0:52:02]: I had in the courthouse at that time four clerks uh at full capacity. [0:52:03, 0:52:06]: Uh, and we had one part-time solicitor. [0:52:07, 0:52:08]: And we had a [0:52:09, 0:52:11]: An investigator that was working with our solicitor. [0:52:12, 0:52:12]: Um [0:52:13, 0:52:27]: So that gives you some perspective. Today we have narrowed that down to uh one and a half clerks basically. Uh our probation department is basically gone, uh, and we're still relying on the county for an investigator. So [0:52:28, 0:52:38]: For some perspective, the city of Lawrenceville has its own police department. They are similar to us in size. And last year they were writing uh over ten thousand tickets per year. [0:52:38, 0:52:43]: So if we assume that we have our own police department and that they're going to do something similar to that. [0:52:44, 0:53:04]: Uh I anticipate as far as municipal court expansion goes, we to to handle that volume, uh necessarily we're going to need to go back to four full time clerks to manage that volume of tickets and the processing of all of those. Uh I anticipate going forward, there may be a day, I don't know that we need it now, but [0:53:03, 0:53:14]: We may need more than one payment window. That's that's a fairly simple solution of renovating one of the rooms in the building to have two payment windows with bulletproof glass to to protect our folks. Um [0:53:15, 0:53:21]: We we were doing it with one when I w when we started in two thousand fourteen and I think we may be able to keep doing that at least for a little while. [0:53:21, 0:53:30]: Uh, we won't need an investigator anymore because we'll have one from our own police department. So I think we can we can have somebody there on court days from our own PD. [0:53:30, 0:53:30]: Um [0:53:31, 0:53:36]: One of the things I had not thought about that Dana reminded me of this morning is that be [0:53:36, 0:53:47]: Before I became judge, the the two guys that were judges before me had restructured the pay scale for the judge so that instead of it being an annual salary, we were paid by the court session, which has made me [0:53:48, 0:54:05]: uh an incredibly cheap purchase over the last couple of years because I reduced the number of court sessions, which means that I'm not being paid what I was before. If we ramp that back up, then necessarily the judge's salary becomes something to consider as well. And and I I'm not going to get into that. I I I will leave that to you. But [0:54:05, 0:54:08]: Right now it's at$400 a session. Um [0:54:08, 0:54:09]: I I move [0:54:09, 0:54:14]: calendars very quickly so I don't sit around worrying that that's gonna be some huge expense for you. [0:54:14, 0:54:23]: Um, when I took the bench we had four and five hundred people on a calendar at nine in the morning and then the same number again at one thirty in the afternoon and I would get it done because I'm not we don't waste time. [0:54:24, 0:54:30]: Um, so I can I think I can keep the number of sessions right about where they were before, which was four or five per month. [0:54:31, 0:54:31]: Um [0:54:33, 0:54:42]: One of the issues we have is that we have planning and zoning people upstairs now in the courthouse. If you if you if you've ever been over there, uh if you haven't come see me or [0:54:42, 0:54:48]: Give me a call and we'll make a time when we can go together. But the upstairs used to be where the judge's office was. I don't know that I ever really [0:54:49, 0:54:53]: need that space because I I would rather somebody else be able to use that space. [0:54:53, 0:55:03]: But uh the personnel were up there, our clerks were up there and all the ticket payments were up there. And then I came down a back hallway, a back stairway to get on the bench. [0:55:03, 0:55:07]: Um as it is now, we're completely downstairs. So if we go back to full capacity. [0:55:08, 0:55:22]: We're going to either need to move the court across the street to the police department, which I I I will tell you I think is probably expensive because you've got to do a massive renovation to get a court over there. If we stay where we are, which I think is probably the more feasible option. [0:55:22, 0:55:31]: Uh, we need to move we we're gonna need to move back upstairs at some point, which then creates a problem with the planning and zoning personnel and where are we gonna put them? [0:55:31, 0:55:32]: Uh so [0:55:34, 0:55:37]: One last thing that I will tell you is that by way of [0:55:40, 0:55:46]: Just looking at best practices going forward, one of the changes that's happened in the last few years is that marijuana. [0:55:46, 0:55:54]: Posi possession of marijuana prosecution has changed in Georgia. And now most cities are prosecuting that under a city ordinance. [0:55:55, 0:56:00]: uh violation and treating it differently than we used to. We used to treat it as a state code violation. [0:56:00, 0:56:01]: Um [0:56:01, 0:56:15]: Stockbridge does not have a viable city ordinance right now under which we can prosecute marijuana possession. And so if we're going to go back to full capacity, we need to have a new ordinance that we can do under which we can prosecute those cases in the city. [0:56:16, 0:56:16]: Um [0:56:17, 0:56:21]: Along those lines, the city of Hampton uh [0:56:21, 0:56:36]: Almost everything prosecuted in Hampton is under a city code violation. Anything they can make fit within the city code, they do. That's significant because the any monies that are paid under a city code violation, my understanding, I'll have to go to the research again. [0:56:36, 0:56:40]: Is that that money is not shared with the state, that money stays with the city. [0:56:41, 0:56:42]: Um and so [0:56:43, 0:56:43]: Uh [0:56:43, 0:57:03]: If we expand our our code right now is not one that we can really use for criminal prosecutions very effectively. Uh if we revise that code, that makes it much easier to keep those things in-house rather than binding them over to state court or prosecuting them as state code violations. Uh so I think that's one significant change we may need to look into. [0:57:03, 0:57:06]: [3426.3, 3426.8]: Uh [0:57:07, 0:57:09]: The criminal part of the municipal code. [0:57:10, 0:57:13]: Uh so that we can use that more effectively. [0:57:13, 0:57:13]: Um [0:57:14, 0:57:34]: One of the great things that I see happening here that I don't know that anybody's thought about is that when this court goes back to full capacity, uh, we can do so many good things in the community rather than just putting people in jail or making people pay fines. Now we have the opportunity to do restorative justice, rehabilitative justice. [0:57:34, 0:57:53]: One of my great friends from South Georgia just got a grant for his court where he's using the court to improve the community and he's getting federal and state funding to do that. So, so very many good programs that can be put in place when we have a court running at its at its fullest capacity. So [0:57:54, 0:58:00]: I I I I don't know how to tell ya how much it excites me to be able to get my hands on something like that and to be able to [0:58:00, 0:58:01]: To do [0:58:01, 0:58:02]: Uh so much good. [0:58:03, 0:58:07]: uh with a court running uh in in the way that it could be so [0:58:07, 0:58:11]: Having said that, I will leave that there and and answer any questions you may have from me. [0:58:12, 0:58:13]: If I made Mayor Four I'm sorry. [0:58:13, 0:58:20]: Go ahead, sir. Go ahead. I I was gonna make just one comment uh before uh counsel uh uh asked questions of judgment court. [0:58:21, 0:58:26]: Judge McCord and myself, uh, and uh Dana Biles' clerk and my assistant uh [0:58:27, 0:58:27]: Chris M. [0:58:28, 0:58:32]: Went over to the police department uh on Monday of this week. [0:58:32, 0:58:39]: Met with ch uh Captain Maddox and uh Deputy Chief Ireland happened to be there because we wanted to look, really view the facility. [0:58:40, 0:58:52]: um from a space allocation standpoint. And it is um uh much larger than it probably looks uh from the exterior there there are [0:58:52, 0:58:57]: Not only do I believe that it certainly can handle the police department of the size that we project. [0:58:59, 0:59:10]: of the size that we project, but um also there are two fairly large unfinished rooms in uh the police department building. [0:59:10, 0:59:15]: Now, as we will continue to have conversations about space allocation and what that looks like for municipal court. [0:59:15, 0:59:19]: Given the volume that's anticipated for the court building. [0:59:20, 0:59:22]: Um, I've got some thoughts about that. [0:59:22, 0:59:28]: But I just wanted to mention that the building there does have quite a bit of space. Now some of it will need to be [0:59:29, 0:59:43]: finished out. It's almost like having an unfinished basement. It needs to be finished out. And that's just, you know, some some renovation costs. But it's a very large building with ample space for uh other offices if needed. [0:59:45, 1:00:05]: All right, uh okay. Thank you, Mr. Knight. Appreciate it. Uh stand by one, please. Um Judge McCourt, thank you for your briefing. I appreciate it. You gave us a lot to think about. I'm glad you're very excited about the the future here, this aspect. So you can be compliment and do your your full capacity for for the city of Starburden's citizens. Uh you gave us a lot to think about, obviously. And and [1:00:05, 1:00:25]: to to really kind of work with to make sure that uh we do the right thing instead of things properly so and as glad i'm glad that you're our judge because uh that's fantastic i want to remind everybody as well that uh we are recording and we are on facebook live so just so you know that and uh just uh make sure that you [1:00:25, 1:00:39]: you understand that uh this is being recorded as well and it's live. Um on that note, McCord uh Judge McCord, thank you very much. Mirapal Tim Alexander, go ahead, please. Yeah, Judge, thank you. I appreciate uh your update for us and uh [1:00:39, 1:00:59]: You know, I think I concur with a lot of the remarks that you made, especially in in the new way that um marijuana cases are being prosecuted here in Georgia. Uh some municipalities have gone to a seventy-five dollar ticket versus an arrest uh in that case. Uh that's a [1:00:59, 1:01:06]: A discussion that the council uh would need to have that I'm fully in support of. I think they call that decriminalizing, but it still is. [1:01:07, 1:01:07]: A ticket. [1:01:08, 1:01:09]: War versus [1:01:09, 1:01:20]: an arrest in terms of the way that's going to just to stop the courts from being clogged up uh with cases uh below one ounce. So I think um [1:01:20, 1:01:25]: Uh that is what you were referring to and the and there are different ways to actually [1:01:25, 1:01:26]: Uh look at [1:01:27, 1:01:29]: uh the marijuana process and I think [1:01:29, 1:01:31]: Uh in the inn [1:01:31, 1:01:33]: We wind up with a lot of people who [1:01:34, 1:01:39]: uh are are caught into the system and they are into the system in the perpetual will of it. [1:01:39, 1:01:41]: causing uh [1:01:41, 1:01:46]: filling up the the jails and prison terms for non violent offenses. So [1:01:47, 1:01:49]: I think uh this city. [1:01:49, 1:01:53]: It's something that I I personally would advocate. Obviously that's up to the will. [1:01:53, 1:01:55]: Uh, the council, but I certainly would [1:01:56, 1:01:58]: Супорт докриміналізацій. [1:01:58, 1:02:00]: And uh the ticketing. [1:02:00, 1:02:02]: of this offense versus an arrest. [1:02:04, 1:02:09]: Any other qu thank you? Any other questions for uh judge McCord? Comments, concerns, recommendations? [1:02:12, 1:02:15]: Uh yeah, I'm sorry, uh Ms. Kent, go here please. [1:02:15, 1:02:21]: Thank you. Um I want to thank Judge McCord for that presentation. Also [1:02:21, 1:02:27]: Um, I agree. Um, I've spoken uh several times on decriminalizing marijuana. [1:02:28, 1:02:31]: And you know, it's showing all over the state of Georgia. [1:02:32, 1:02:47]: Um, and I'm hoping that it it too is done here in Henry County. I've seen some changes even with the uh Henry County solicitor's office. Um, you know, Pam Bevis has done some things to make sure that that takes place as well. [1:02:49, 1:02:49]: Um [1:02:49, 1:03:09]: I am looking forward to our courts. I remember being the solicitor and I can tell you, Judge McCord, that and well you already know um you were there too. Um we would have 200 cases in the day in the morning and 200 cases after lunch. So this um, you know, in general. [1:03:09, 1:03:22]: uh those type of you know speeding tickets and uh shoplifting cases and things like that would pop up and you know tag expiration dates every single day. [1:03:23, 1:03:26]: And we just had a really packed schedule. [1:03:26, 1:03:27]: Um [1:03:27, 1:03:47]: Judge McCourt, what are your plans on making sure that our court runs smoothly when that happens? Would you have one court kind of like we did back then when I when I was a solicitor? Will you do um court twice a month, you know, in AM and PM hours? Um, you know, there of course there's new [1:03:47, 1:03:49]: Updated software. [1:03:49, 1:04:03]: At the time, again when I was solicitor, there were times where I would use the code because I didn't want um our citizens to have a record for some of these offenses. Um and it's a it's a way of doing things. [1:04:04, 1:04:06]: to say yes you're wrong, but it doesn't [1:04:07, 1:04:07]: Um [1:04:07, 1:04:09]: I you know. [1:04:10, 1:04:18]: It it doesn't go to the extent or level where it needs to be on a person's record. So what are your plans on making that smooth a smooth transition? [1:04:18, 1:04:19]: Well, so [1:04:20, 1:04:26]: Ms. Gantt, I I don't know if you remember this, but when you got elected and I I took the bench the next year. [1:04:26, 1:04:27]: Uh there was a [1:04:28, 1:04:34]: I think because of some issues with the court, there was somewhat of a backlog. And so we actually there were days when I would have [1:04:34, 1:04:38]: four hundred or more cases on a nine AM calendar and that would repeat itself at one thirty. [1:04:39, 1:04:52]: Uh and so I without meaning to had jumped into a situation where I had to learn how on the spl on the fly how to be very efficient. And so we figured that out. I think at the time we were doing court four days a month. [1:04:52, 1:05:04]: Um, and I I structure those calendars, especially with the pandemic, we're gonna have to be cognizant of this, but we layer the calendars so that we're not packing the courtroom like we used to. Uh and [1:05:05, 1:05:09]: We we we do arraignments two days a month and then two days a month we handle uh [1:05:10, 1:05:22]: probation, revocations, and trials. Um, with now so so that's the the efficiency piece of the of of what of the question that you just asked. Um with regard to what you were talking about using the code and [1:05:22, 1:05:25]: sort of expanding how do we treat people. [1:05:25, 1:05:43]: uh so that they don't have criminal histories. I expanded the use of the pretrial intervention program when I took the bench so that we could take people who had committed minor violations, it was their first offense, and we could rehabilitate those folks or get them into some kind of good program without them having a criminal record. And we made use of that on a much broader [1:05:44, 1:05:55]: really broader basis than we had before. Uh and so what I do from the bench is weed out those cases early on that I think need to meet with the solicitor or investigator so that we can put them on side. Um [1:05:57, 1:06:00]: Those are decisions that we make in court, but uh [1:06:00, 1:06:19]: You know, I I I understand that we are a court. I understand these people have violated the law, but I also understand that we are a city court and a lot of these people, this is their first time ever in court. And we have the opportunity to change their lives for the better and to keep them out of the system rather than making them a permanent part of it. And so we we already have in place those mechanisms to make sure those things happen. [1:06:21, 1:06:25]: Fantastic. Council. Thank you so much. Excellent. [1:06:25, 1:06:26]: Uh Mr. Washington. [1:06:27, 1:06:42]: Hi Judge McCourt, good to see you again. Uh just a quick question. If we're going to be expanding with the police department, how much additional judicial capacity do you think would be necessary if they're going to be if the city's going to be issuing warrants on a 24 hour basis? Or do you think that there would need to be a 24 hour basis to issue? [1:06:42, 1:06:55]: You know what, if they need me, they they they can have my cell phone number. I think we'll be fine. And and and here's the deal, Quentin, if I get overwhelmed and I see that it's gonna be a whole lot more than I thought, then I think we can have that discussion then. But at this point, I don't think that's gonna be an issue. [1:06:56, 1:06:59]: On Judge McCord, hi, this is Jeremy Berry. Uh [1:06:59, 1:07:07]: Outside city attorney with with Quentin as well. What about s I assume same with failures to appear? I assume those will probably start increasing as well. Yep. [1:07:10, 1:07:18]: All righty. Um anybody else? Mayor Pool Tim, go ahead, please. Yes, uh I a question that has often come up is the community service work. [1:07:19, 1:07:23]: I've often wanted that uh I know it's a burden on the [1:07:24, 1:07:31]: defender, but when you commit a crime in Stockbridge, that the community service should be should take place in the city. [1:07:32, 1:07:36]: We have a little problem in the city. We have several other things that need to be done. [1:07:36, 1:07:40]: So I I I want to encourage the court to [1:07:40, 1:07:53]: move forward with making sure that uh those of those offenders actually perform the community service here uh for the benefit uh of the entire county. So I certainly would like to encourage the court [1:07:53, 1:07:54]: Uh to move. [1:07:54, 1:07:56]: Uh in that direction. [1:07:56, 1:07:58]: uh exped as expeditiously [1:07:58, 1:08:01]: uh as possible for the benefit [1:08:02, 1:08:04]: of of of the entire community. [1:08:04, 1:08:05]: Um [1:08:06, 1:08:09]: Council, if I may real quickly, I don't mean to interrupt you, I want to respond to that. [1:08:09, 1:08:20]: I that's something I agree with you on. Uh, but one of the things we've got to make sure that we have is that we've got somebody who can effectively supervise those folks because I it doesn't work for me to send somebody [1:08:21, 1:08:38]: just o down to the to the city and say, hey, you're gonna go do community service with the city today, because that's imposing a burden on our city folks who then have to deal with somebody who may not want to be there. Uh and I the best example I have of that, I'm not gonna call the young man's name, but there was a young man that I put on probation, sent him down to do community service work. [1:08:39, 1:08:41]: He was really difficult to deal with. [1:08:41, 1:08:43]: They sent him back to me. [1:08:43, 1:08:50]: Uh, and I ended up revoking his probation, but he ultimately, this young man ultimately, while on probation with us, ended up being charged with murder. [1:08:51, 1:09:01]: uh in a really awful case. Uh and that's the kind of every now and then that's the kind of case you get. So I wanna make sure if I'm gonna send somebody to our city folks to do [1:09:01, 1:09:03]: community service work that that [1:09:04, 1:09:08]: the folks that we're sending them to can manage that and that we've got the proper people in place to to handle that. [1:09:09, 1:09:21]: Well, I'm certainly sensitive to that. And to make sure that we're done right and there's always gonna be the exception to the rule. I just try to operate by the rule most of the time, but again, there's gonna be exceptions. [1:09:21, 1:09:23]: And this statement is for the public. [1:09:24, 1:09:40]: Okay, there's been a lot of talk about ticketing, a lot of talk about revenue. That is not the purpose of our stopridge police department. That is uh something that actually uh prop obviously uh ticketing revenue, but the idea is not to over police. [1:09:40, 1:10:00]: It is to do what's necessary to keep the community safe. So, you know, 10,000 tickets in Largeville sounds like a lot. I'm not aiming for that. I'm aiming to just keep the community safe and to do what's necessary to do so. And as the town halls continue, the public will tell us what uh type of policing that they want. So it'll be a [1:10:00, 1:10:14]: partnership and us determining the level of enforcement in the community. So thank you. And I will tell you that I refuse to let our court be that. I have protected our court from becoming that since I became the judge. I I give you those numbers just so that we can have some understanding of what the [1:10:14, 1:10:19]: volume and and the quantity of work could be uh for a port of our size. [1:10:19, 1:10:20]: Thank you, Jeff. [1:10:20, 1:10:38]: Hey Judge McCord, you mentioned about a supervisor, someone that would be over overseeing individuals that would do some type of community support. Would that individual be someone that we would hire on a part on a on a uh part-time or full-time basis that would be assigned to the court that would have that specific duty? How how would that work? [1:10:38, 1:10:54]: Mayor, we need to have a conversation about that and kind of look into it. It it isn't something that I've had since I became a judge. So I need to look at other jurisdictions where they do have that uh and see what works best and talk to some of my friends in the judiciary who have really good uh community work programs. [1:10:55, 1:10:55]: Uh [1:10:56, 1:11:01]: So that we can make sure we do it right. I let's look into that together. I don't have a good answer for you right now. [1:11:01, 1:11:07]: I appreciate it. Typically right. And I I appreciate that judgment court. Typically it may be a po post certified [1:11:07, 1:11:12]: Um either officer or former officer or someone like that who has that type of [1:11:12, 1:11:19]: of skill set to be able to supervise. Um it's something obviously that other communities do and can be done. And I think we great benefit [1:11:20, 1:11:22]: Or outcome as Judge McCord alluded to for [1:11:23, 1:11:25]: Coro says the police department is established in uh [1:11:26, 1:11:26]: court. [1:11:26, 1:11:28]: As a result, it is is expanded. [1:11:30, 1:11:32]: Council, any other question for uh Judge McCord? [1:11:33, 1:11:34]: Anybody? [1:11:35, 1:11:37]: Councilman Thomas, you got anything, sir, at all? [1:11:42, 1:12:02]: Had to get myself off of mute. Uh I no, I do not um specifically. Uh I just want to uh thank the judge for those comments. Uh I think we are moving in the right direction um and creating our police department. And I think all of the uh components and everything that will be affiliated, you know, with with the project. [1:12:02, 1:12:18]: process, I think eventually will happen. I do appreciate that, uh judge, and and I'm surely there will be many conversations uh offline, off script, uh, that we will need your expertise in. And but I'm so happy and glad that we are moving forward. [1:12:20, 1:12:22]: Councilwoman Barber, do you have any comments at all? [1:12:24, 1:12:29]: Okay. Co councilman Blount, sir. You have anything from Miss McCord, Judge McCord, excuse me. [1:12:33, 1:12:39]: Okay, I guess not. All right. I sort of [1:12:40, 1:12:40]: American. [1:12:41, 1:12:43]: Okay, thank you. Mr. Knight. [1:12:44, 1:12:45]: Okay, good deal. [1:12:45, 1:12:53]: Mr. Knights. Yeah, I'm sorry if I missed this judgment cord, but what what do you anticipate the volume to be for the number of sessions you'll have? [1:12:54, 1:12:56]: Based on expect based on expected volume. [1:12:57, 1:12:59]: Ah per month, for instance, per month. [1:12:59, 1:13:14]: I talked to Dana uh today and it I think we can get it done with four to five days of court. You know, we define a session as a half a day. So that would be eight to ten sessions, uh, but that comes out to four or five days per month. Um that's what we were doing before. [1:13:15, 1:13:19]: Uh I I think we can probably I think we can still get it done with that many. [1:13:22, 1:13:26]: Lor you know, I I say that. Y'all y'all, I let me be really clear. I [1:13:27, 1:13:32]: I don't know how other courts run. I know how mine ran. I know how I was doing it and and I know that we work to be [1:13:33, 1:13:38]: extremely efficient and we move very fast while at the same time trying to protect people's rights and do the right thing. [1:13:38, 1:13:45]: I there are some courts that are our size that run, you know, sixteen sessions. They they are they they go half a month. [1:13:46, 1:13:51]: uh in court days. I I have never been somebody that thought I needed to do that. Yeah, so I I'm [1:13:51, 1:13:57]: I'm a little bit guarded when I say we can do it in four or five days, but I feel like we can. That's what we did before, and I don't know why that would change. [1:13:58, 1:14:07]: One one other question, if I may, in terms of of jail transport with that many sessions, I assume jail transport would increase. [1:14:08, 1:14:10]: Accordingly. Do you see any challenge with that at all? [1:14:10, 1:14:12]: No, you know it [1:14:12, 1:14:32]: The obviously the worst days for that are going to be your probation revocation days. Uh those are the days when people are more likely to have committed a new offense or something along those lines. But uh I can go back and look at what we were doing in 2013, 2014 and probably give you a good answer. But I mean, will jail transport increase over where it is now? Yes, because right now there's almost none. [1:14:32, 1:14:35]: Uh, but it'll be back to what it was in two thousand fourteen. [1:14:37, 1:14:37]: Okay. [1:14:41, 1:14:41]: Okay. [1:14:42, 1:15:02]: Any other questions? I know I I don't have any other questions. I look forward to a bright future as we go down this road and for development of police department as well, uh Judge McCord of you being a full up uh court in this aspect and uh doing your thing along with your staff. And uh sounds good. That's it's very promising. We're making forward to it and I I [1:15:02, 1:15:10]: I welcome your phone calls. You all of you, I think, have my cell phone number. If you need it, uh, ask ask anybody for it. Call me when you have questions. I'd be happy to answer those. [1:15:11, 1:15:15]: Uh Mr. Mayor, yes sir. If I may it just [1:15:15, 1:15:18]: Uh just a curiosity. Uh the judgment court when [1:15:20, 1:15:24]: And I think I know the answer, but I'm gonna ask this question. Uh when the city of Stockbridge [1:15:24, 1:15:28]: had their own uh police department um [1:15:29, 1:15:32]: I don't want you to reveal your age, but um [1:15:33, 1:15:33]: Mm. [1:15:34, 1:15:40]: Um I because I think I know the answer. Uh I'll I'll I'll stop there and see if you want to respond to that. [1:15:41, 1:15:55]: I think the last time the city of Stockbridge had its own police department, I was at at Morrow Senior High School. Uh and to give you some to give you some time frame reference, we called it Morrow Senior High School back then. Today it's Morrow High School. So [1:15:55, 1:15:58]: Uh I you know, I I'm I'm far, far disconnected from that. [1:15:59, 1:16:09]: Yeah, I I I sort of figured that I figured you were sort of a youngster, but I I I remember those days. But I I just wanted to put a laugh in there during that time. But uh thank you, sir. I appreciate it. [1:16:09, 1:16:10]: Yes, sir. [1:16:10, 1:16:30]: Good deal. Well, I will tell you, uh, Councilman Thomas, uh I wasn't I was a senior in high school myself back in that time frame when when it was disbanded. So it and I got us gray hair. So you know that's a few years ago. Right. All right, thank you, sir. Good deal. Good deal. If there's another question for Miss McCord, excuse me, once again, Judge McCord, excuse me, Judge. [1:16:30, 1:16:42]: does McCord, uh then I would guess say sir, appreciate your briefing your time and and we look for a bright future. And uh we'll move on to our next topic, sir. Okay. Yes sir. Thank you. Y'all have a good day. Too sir. Bye bye. [1:16:44, 1:16:46]: Well, actually we're ahead of schedule at this point. [1:16:47, 1:17:03]: So the uh yes sir, go right ahead, please. Please go ahead, Mayor. I was gonna say well, I was gonna say we could we can if if the if the next Bill Spark is available, I guess we can move on and have his frequent if he's available. If yeah he can be he can be available a little bit earlier, but if if the council [1:17:03, 1:17:15]: Um is amenable. I wanted to go over the American Rescue Plan. Just a little bit more information about American Rescue Plan. I didn't get a chance uh uh right after uh Mr. Wiggins' presentation due to Judge McCord's [1:17:16, 1:17:23]: Schedule, but if that's okay with the council, I think that may be a worthy discussion. Oh, absolutely. Please do. Please do. I'm pretty sure everybody wants to hear this. [1:17:24, 1:17:30]: All right, let me see if I can share my screen from IT. Let's see here. [1:17:33, 1:17:38]: All right, can everybody everybody see that? Let me let me briefly explain. Um yesterday [1:17:38, 1:17:40]: GMA had a session. [1:17:41, 1:18:01]: And the American Rescue Plan Act was discussed. They had a representative from the National League of Cities. And as I think I mentioned in some correspondence, similar to the CARES Act previously, now that this legislation has come forward, everybody now is trying to figure out exactly what it means and how funds can be spent. [1:18:01, 1:18:04]: And typical uh as through the CARES Act, there was some [1:18:04, 1:18:08]: uh information that became more clear. [1:18:09, 1:18:18]: As the weeks progressed. Uh, this information uh that I have on the screen here was provided yesterday, and given the timing of it, I wanted to make sure I shared this with [1:18:20, 1:18:24]: the council because I do think that based on the information that we have at the moment. [1:18:24, 1:18:35]: That there seems to be more latitude with respect to the uh American Rescue Plan Act as it what as uh more latitude than the CARES Act previously. [1:18:35, 1:18:41]: The CARES Act primarily was a look back of expenses that you had already expended. [1:18:41, 1:18:52]: to deal with the pandemic. And then you had a fairish fairly short window, basically from August to the end of December, to spend those funds, which, as I mentioned earlier, [1:18:52, 1:18:56]: We did primary primarily in the areas of small business support. [1:18:56, 1:19:04]: And then also some nonprofit support as well. It seems to be more latitude here with the American Rescue Plan Act. [1:19:04, 1:19:06]: And um [1:19:07, 1:19:10]: Will probably uh will be, I think, a tremendous benefit. [1:19:10, 1:19:13]: uh to local government. So I'll try to go through this. [1:19:13, 1:19:16]: As best I can explain what I understand at the moment. [1:19:16, 1:19:36]: With re with respect to this plan and how it uh impacts us specifically. And also the estimated amount for Stockbridge based on the distribution is about$9.4 million. That's the estimated amount. And I say estimated amount because there is somewhat of a caveat about [1:19:36, 1:19:37]: Uh [1:19:37, 1:19:47]: not allowing more than 75% of your previous annual budget, something to that effect. So [1:19:48, 1:19:59]: There's kind of that caveat in there, but basically we're looking at that$9.4 million as the allocation as it's been listed for the city of Stockbridge. [1:20:00, 1:20:01]: Excuse me. [1:20:03, 1:20:05]: All right, let me see if I can do this here. [1:20:08, 1:20:09]: All right, let's do it that way. [1:20:11, 1:20:21]: All right. Um sixty-five billion for funding for all cities, towns, et cetera. That was that was some of the CARES Act information. [1:20:21, 1:20:30]: Uh the CARES Act relief fund went directly to cities with populations greater than fifty five hundred thousand and so forth. I'll skip down here just a moment. [1:20:32, 1:20:43]: Course, our CARES Act allocation was about uh one point five in the range of one point uh five million dollars. This is a r that's this right here is a review of the uh overall CARES Act. [1:20:45, 1:20:47]: Let me go down here. [1:20:48, 1:20:52]: Okay, for state and local government emergency relief funds. [1:20:52, 1:20:54]: You see the total of three hundred and fifty billion. [1:20:55, 1:21:02]: States um 195 and then localities 130.2 billion. That is the pot that we fall into. [1:21:03, 1:21:10]: There's$130.2 billion, which our allocation uh would be about$9.4 billion. [1:21:14, 1:21:15]: This is a little bit [1:21:15, 1:21:18]: difficult to maneuver here, so forgive me for that. [1:21:28, 1:21:41]: Okay, the use of the funds are essentially this. Um obviously to provide for emergency and emergency and address economic impacts of COVID to households, small businesses, nonprofits. They're different portions of this pot of money. [1:21:42, 1:21:43]: For different entities [1:21:44, 1:21:48]: Um and paying essential employees, um [1:21:48, 1:21:50]: A certain amount as well. [1:21:50, 1:21:53]: State and local governments cannot use the funds toward pensions. [1:21:54, 1:21:55]: Or [1:21:55, 1:21:56]: to offset [1:21:57, 1:22:02]: Revenue resulting from a tax cut enacted since March third, twenty twenty one. [1:22:03, 1:22:06]: State and local governments can transfer funds to private nonprofit groups. [1:22:07, 1:22:13]: Public benefit corporations involved in passenger or cargo transportation and special purpose units of state and local government. [1:22:13, 1:22:21]: So the funds could be used in a similar fashion that we did before with respect to business support, nonprofits, et cetera. [1:22:25, 1:22:35]: We expect to receive the funds in two what's two tranches or two different pots, if you will. Um one we should receive fairly soon. [1:22:36, 1:22:44]: And then we'll receive another one about a year later. Funds can be used through December 31st, 2024. [1:22:45, 1:22:50]: The funds distributed by Treasury within 60 days to metropolitan cities, generally those 50 uh [1:22:51, 1:22:52]: thousand and above. [1:22:53, 1:22:59]: And then the others should receive those funds shortly thereafter. So the funds should be coming up to us. [1:23:00, 1:23:05]: basically when about I would venture to say within about sixty to ninety days from what we understand. [1:23:10, 1:23:14]: I'm sorry, that's this is a little bit difficult to maneuver. [1:23:16, 1:23:20]: Let me go back because there's one piece in here I want to make sure we we look at. [1:23:26, 1:23:38]: These funds are to um again respond to the coronavirus emergency pandemic, anything that we needed to do to address those different things that we need to retrofit buildings, all of those different things. [1:23:39, 1:23:44]: Also, it allows a municipality to provide up to thirteen dollars per hour above regular wages. [1:23:45, 1:23:49]: Um and then it provides for um [1:23:53, 1:24:03]: support that received that we received prior to the emergency or things that we had to account for prior to the emergency. There's one thing I want you to show here in item D. [1:24:05, 1:24:09]: To make necessary investments in water, sewer or broadband infrastructure. [1:24:10, 1:24:13]: Is a means by which these funds can be used. [1:24:14, 1:24:15]: Same. [1:24:15, 1:24:17]: Those are some capital items. [1:24:17, 1:24:23]: The other thing that I wanted to mention was because we talked about the Merrill Manders Conference Center and we talked about Ted Strickland. [1:24:24, 1:24:28]: Obviously, those were revenue losses this past year due to the COVID vaccine. [1:24:29, 1:24:31]: Based on the information provided yesterday. [1:24:31, 1:24:33]: We can identify. [1:24:34, 1:24:37]: The expected revenues that we would have received. [1:24:37, 1:24:40]: From Ted Strickland and Merrill Manders. Um [1:24:41, 1:24:46]: Rent for rental of those facilities and I assume any other facilities we have, pavilions, things of that nature. [1:24:47, 1:24:49]: Those revenues that were lost. [1:24:50, 1:24:54]: Based on our budget, we can recoup those revenues. [1:24:56, 1:24:59]: From last year, based on what was discussed yesterday. [1:25:07, 1:25:27]: This again is an overall view of the bill, direct payments,$1,400 per person at a certain amount of eligibility, tax credits, employee retention credits, pay leave credits, unemployment benefits extension. [1:25:27, 1:25:40]: PPP funding increases. There's there's a lot in here for local businesses or for businesses, restaurant revitalization funds. That I'm talking about this is the entire bill now, not just uh affecting the local government issues. [1:25:41, 1:25:52]: And then health and human services, there are a number of things related to other vaccinate vaccine testing grants, uh childcare block grants, those types of things that are beneficial to the uh community overall. [1:25:55, 1:25:57]: Obviously, there's a lot with respect to education. [1:25:58, 1:26:00]: Um in educational support. [1:26:03, 1:26:06]: universities uh the lost funding [1:26:12, 1:26:20]: Uh recipient governments can transfer funds to private nonprofit organizations, et cetera, as we mentioned before. Can't be used for pension funds. [1:26:21, 1:26:21]: Um [1:26:22, 1:26:26]: And that's that phrase I've mentioned before. Non-entitlement cities may not receive more than seventy five percent. [1:26:28, 1:26:29]: Of these cities most recent. [1:26:31, 1:26:32]: Budget. [1:26:33, 1:26:35]: And again, here's a summation of [1:26:35, 1:26:39]: The um amount of funds per different categories. [1:26:41, 1:26:45]: I know that was was somewhat hasty, but I did want to at least go over it. [1:26:46, 1:26:48]: There's a lot in here. [1:26:48, 1:26:51]: Um there's a lot to uh consider. [1:26:52, 1:27:01]: Um and I think as we gain more information over the next several days um with respect to how these funds can specifically be used. [1:27:02, 1:27:03]: Um [1:27:03, 1:27:16]: staff and I were probably making some uh recommendations to the council with respect to these funds. I think the bottom line is there is a number of uh different funding opportunities here that have been provided via the local government. [1:27:17, 1:27:20]: And it's something that obviously can help to benefit cities. [1:27:20, 1:27:24]: In the future, and um obviously the city of Stockbridge. [1:27:27, 1:27:29]: Um this night. [1:27:29, 1:27:49]: Uh I would venture to say that this briefing is outstanding. I would like for uh you if you can send that to the entire council so you can have that on hand. We can go through that. I'd uh uh I would imagine that uh something like this possibly uh leave it to your discretion, sir, of course, whether or not the shows on a website to educate the the public as well, if that's make makes sure, sure. That's fine. [1:27:49, 1:27:51]: Not a problem. Not a problem. [1:27:51, 1:28:11]: I noticed that you said 130.2 billion for cities that is in this bill. And there's roughly about 19,000 cities across the country that will be getting these direct payments to help them out. And I think there's well over 3,000 counties that also will have direct payment to help them out as well. [1:28:11, 1:28:22]: Um fantastic. This is this is very promising. Okay, that's that's all I have to say. I just wanted to say that, sir. Appreciate it. Anyone else? Any other council member? Uh Mayor Pro Tem uh Alexander, go away, please. [1:28:22, 1:28:30]: Yeah, uh sir, I I just want you to say that one more time for people that really tuned in. How much funding is the city expecting? [1:28:30, 1:28:33]: Uh, we expect to receive nine point four miles. [1:28:34, 1:28:46]: Nine point four million dollars. What is the city's the city annual budget this year is$12 million. Now 12.7, yes. Right. So in essence, uh there are winners and losers. I mean. [1:28:46, 1:28:49]: Because of how the pandemic worked out. [1:28:50, 1:28:53]: Our revenue has actually increased uh for the city. [1:28:53, 1:29:08]: So, you know, if you're a center hub like the city of Atlanta, you probably suffer this money or go right in. But at the same time, we need to understand the the advantages of this. Now, the First CARES Act uh allowed for reimbursement of public. [1:29:09, 1:29:12]: Um uh public safety. Does this one allow the same thing? [1:29:12, 1:29:16]: That that is correct, uh Mayor Pro Tem Alexander, it did. [1:29:17, 1:29:25]: I believe that this one will as well, and and I understand where you're going with that as well, which I've kind of thought about and want to make sure we get clarification on. [1:29:25, 1:29:26]: For instance [1:29:27, 1:29:32]: If this is a look ahead, so to speak, and there are funds here available that can help support. [1:29:33, 1:29:34]: uh public safety. [1:29:35, 1:29:55]: Obviously, we'll be starting the police department. These funds have to be expended by 2024. And obviously, we would have uh certainly well before then uh begun a police department. And so the question is um what if any funds can be utilized to help support public safety? I believe there is [1:29:55, 1:29:59]: uh would be an opportunity uh for that support. I would only [1:30:01, 1:30:07]: Place one caveat is, as I mentioned, you know, some of the some of the details of this still are unfolding. [1:30:07, 1:30:12]: But it seems that we'll have some opportunities perhaps to provide some level of support. [1:30:12, 1:30:14]: With respect to [1:30:14, 1:30:19]: The necessary items for public safety in the CARES Act, public safety in fact in the CARES Act. [1:30:20, 1:30:24]: Налив safety um departments able to [1:30:25, 1:30:29]: uh realized funds for the um [1:30:29, 1:30:42]: uh different forms of protection that they needed during the pandemic, the normal things of sanitizer, um, gloves, masks, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, they actually were able to pay salaries with the CARES Act funding. [1:30:42, 1:30:44]: Actual salaries from the CARES Act. [1:30:45, 1:30:48]: Funding were were able to be realized. [1:30:48, 1:30:51]: by those governments that had those public safety. [1:30:52, 1:30:53]: Um entities. [1:30:53, 1:30:55]: I'm not sure that that it goes that far. [1:30:56, 1:31:02]: Um, but certainly um is something that I have certainly been thinking about over the last couple of days to [1:31:02, 1:31:08]: see how this um would impact the advent of a police department for the city of Stockholm. [1:31:08, 1:31:16]: Absolutely. So thank you for that. And to understand, you know, this is a great time. It is really a great time. And sometimes [1:31:17, 1:31:22]: Things are just meant to be. When this falls in your lap, you gotta take advantage of it if a if allowed [1:31:22, 1:31:33]: And uh to be able to start the police infrastructure with these additional fundings will certainly bless our city. So I'm I'm fully in support of that. Hopefully the rest of the council is too. Thank you. [1:31:34, 1:31:36]: Councilman Thomas, sir, you are unmuted. [1:31:37, 1:31:43]: Yes, um I I did have a public safety question, but I think Mr. Nighting uh answered that. [1:31:43, 1:31:46]: My other questions uh relates to [1:31:47, 1:31:49]: Um outfitting [1:31:49, 1:31:54]: uh the various uh buildings that we have here in the city. [1:31:55, 1:32:03]: the the city chamber. I know there are some plexiglass there. I think I think it's it's it's a little bit more that that needs to be done there. [1:32:03, 1:32:05]: Uh you know, the the the courts [1:32:06, 1:32:07]: Uh all of [1:32:07, 1:32:11]: feeling I I hope there is a plan and I I I guess [1:32:11, 1:32:14]: can respond to that you know you don't have to get into [1:32:14, 1:32:15]: Yeah, but. [1:32:15, 1:32:19]: I I would hope that uh there is a plan being worked out where we will [1:32:20, 1:32:24]: Uh even retrofit all of our building to make sure that [1:32:24, 1:32:27]: We are safe when uh all of us. [1:32:27, 1:32:30]: As well as all of the employees uh come back to work. [1:32:31, 1:32:39]: Right. No, yes, uh Councilman Thomas, thank you for that. Yes, we've done some things already so far with respect to plex glass and separations. [1:32:39, 1:32:42]: And in certain areas open more open areas. [1:32:43, 1:32:48]: um of our buildings um and we'll continue to look at ways to [1:32:48, 1:32:51]: Safeguard staff um going forward. [1:32:51, 1:32:54]: And and to that end, obviously if the [1:32:54, 1:32:59]: Police department building obviously at some point will be utilized for Stockbridge Police Department. [1:33:00, 1:33:03]: As we go in to renovate areas of that building. [1:33:03, 1:33:05]: We will have that in mind. [1:33:06, 1:33:09]: Of how we make separations. [1:33:09, 1:33:14]: uh even though hopefully we'll we'll be hopefully in a much better place in terms of pandemic. [1:33:14, 1:33:19]: But we have to keep those things in mind um as we go into retrofit a new building. [1:33:19, 1:33:20]: A new building, so to speak. [1:33:21, 1:33:23]: And how we provide the necessary separation to protect. [1:33:24, 1:33:24]: Um [1:33:25, 1:33:25]: Protect the state. [1:33:27, 1:33:29]: Uh thank you. Uh I yield back, uh Mayor. [1:33:29, 1:33:30]: Okay. [1:33:30, 1:33:36]: Council, any other questions, concerns uh from this briefing that Mr. Knighton just gave? Anyone else? [1:33:39, 1:33:52]: Okay, I see none. All right, sir. I appreciate that. Uh appreciate the briefing. And then I know you'll send the information to the entire council so we can review it and take notes. And I'm pretty sure we'll have questions as time goes on as as well. [1:33:53, 1:34:07]: Okay. I'll send that to you shortly. All right, sir. Appreciate that. Uh on that note, uh, we're still ahead of schedule, it seems like. Uh Mr. Ms. Holliday, we're we're almost what, 20 minutes or so ahead, seems like. Um [1:34:08, 1:34:16]: So I will tell you, uh, I don't know if we need to get uh Mr. Stark online now, if he's available, or you want to take any type of break. Uh we seem to be moving right along. [1:34:17, 1:34:24]: Um if if I can make a suggestion uh to the council, if we can um get Mr. Stark on at eleven o'clock. [1:34:25, 1:34:27]: And we start at eleven. If we take a break. [1:34:28, 1:34:29]: Let's see here. [1:34:30, 1:34:30]: That works. [1:34:31, 1:34:33]: Take a break now and then have him come on at eleven. [1:34:34, 1:34:38]: Is that okay? And and a break we're taking is uh right now it's it would be a half an hour. [1:34:40, 1:34:41]: Class I thirty. [1:34:43, 1:34:47]: Close, yeah, it would be a half an hour. I I think actually he can come out a little bit sooner. [1:34:48, 1:35:06]: That's what you want to do. If you all want to do I don't I don't know if we need a half, I don't know if we need a half hour break, sir. Uh in this aspect. I think I can get them on at 1045 if you all want to do 1045, 1050. 1045. Get them on then. 1045, hopefully it would work for the council. That way we might want to take a little slightly longer, maybe uh [1:35:06, 1:35:11]: Well, lunch is already scheduled for an hour as well, anyway. But okay. How about 1045, Council? Will that work for you? [1:35:12, 1:35:13]: Okay. [1:35:13, 1:35:16]: Good. Any comments? Yes. Yes. [1:35:16, 1:35:22]: All right, so we'll look at ten forty five, we'll take a break, and then uh Mr. Stark, if you can get on to that point and we'll start with the strategic plan. [1:35:23, 1:35:24]: And SWAT analysis, all right. [1:35:25, 1:35:32]: Yeah, that that uh yeah, that um does lend itself to to having some time to work through. So that that should work out fine. [1:35:32, 1:35:38]: Good deal. All right, I'll see folks at ten four. Could ask everyone to mute their systems and stop their video. [1:35:51, 1:35:51]: Miss Holiday? [1:35:56, 1:35:56]: Yes. [1:35:56, 1:35:58]: I'm just gonna leave and come back. [1:35:59, 1:36:00]: Okay. [1:36:00, 1:36:01]: Is that gonna be all right? [1:36:02, 1:36:03]: Yes, okay. [1:36:03, 1:36:04]: Are you on? [1:40:08, 1:40:20]: I actually have 1045. Okay. And I see the Mr. Dark is online. Okay. Okay, everybody, the council. [1:40:20, 1:40:22]: Yeah let's see here. [1:40:25, 1:40:37]: I don't see Ms. Ganttz, Ms. Barber's here, Mr. Potem, okay. Well, all right. Give it another minute here, I guess in a sense uh Thomas comes back into the screen. [1:40:39, 1:40:40]: Excuse me. [1:40:44, 1:40:47]: Good morning, Mr. Stark. We're gonna get started just a second with your presentation, sir. [1:40:48, 1:40:50]: Good morning. Nice to be with you. [1:40:50, 1:40:51]: Absolutely. [1:40:52, 1:40:53]: Absolutely. [1:40:54, 1:40:59]: All right. Yeah, okay. Premier Potem is back and Thomas is coming back. Okay, good deal. All right. So [1:41:00, 1:41:17]: Mr. Knighton, I'll leave it up to you, sir. All right. We we the Ms. uh Councilman Thomas is online. He hears everything. And um I know that uh Councilwoman Gantt was going to sign back in. And so she'll be joining us shortly. Uh so we have a consensus here. So let's move out. [1:41:18, 1:41:19]: Ms. Nine, please. [1:41:20, 1:41:26]: Yes, uh thank you, Mayor and Council. Um this is Bill Stark. Uh he'll introduce himself more uh formally in just a moment. [1:41:27, 1:41:30]: He's an organizational consultant and uh has worked with [1:41:30, 1:41:32]: uh several jurisdictions, including our own. [1:41:33, 1:41:37]: As we worked through uh some uh staff matters to help strengthen. [1:41:37, 1:41:40]: And enhance um our staff and ability [1:41:41, 1:41:49]: Uh, to uh further our vision, uh, work on efficiency and interaction and things of those natures. And so we appreciate him joining us today. [1:41:50, 1:41:54]: And uh obviously a strategic plan is something that is vital to [1:41:55, 1:41:58]: Any organization certainly to a local government like ours. [1:41:58, 1:42:01]: Uh this is a a step or a component. [1:42:01, 1:42:05]: Of that strategic planning process, which Mr. Stark will kind of give an overview. [1:42:05, 1:42:11]: of strategic planning uh and uh then facilitate the discussion that uh we'll have [1:42:11, 1:42:31]: Uh for a SWOT analysis, strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats. That is very important, especially coming from the mayor and council, to identify those things that you believe fit into those categories so that we can utilize that as a foundation to springboard forward in uh working on the other components of this. [1:42:31, 1:42:32]: strategic plan. [1:42:32, 1:42:35]: And ultimately uh completing that process. So [1:42:36, 1:42:42]: Uh Mr. Stark, um I will leave it to you to go ahead and um [1:42:42, 1:42:46]: uh go forward with uh this session. [1:42:47, 1:42:51]: Very good. Absolutely. Thank you very much. It's uh great to be with everyone. Good to s [1:42:51, 1:43:03]: Good to see you all again. Um, and uh thank you for that uh that uh setup, uh Mr. Knighton. Yes, our company Intercom, we work with a number of local governments in Georgia and outside gov Georgia. [1:43:04, 1:43:14]: uh in this area of strategic planning um as well as professional development. So we're happy to be here and and have an initial discussion about strategic planning for the city of Stockbridge. [1:43:14, 1:43:27]: Uh in terms of just broad broad strokes, you know, most cities that um that we work with either have a plan, have part of a plan, or need to refresh a strategic plan. And of course the strategic plan [1:43:28, 1:43:30]: Gives the citizens of Stockbridge. [1:43:31, 1:43:33]: Gives the elected officials, gives the staff. [1:43:34, 1:43:35]: Direction. [1:43:35, 1:43:38]: It gives them a sense of focus and purpose. [1:43:38, 1:43:41]: In terms of where the city is going. [1:43:41, 1:43:46]: uh in the future and um there's some components to a strategic plan that [1:43:46, 1:43:54]: You all are going to want to consider and spend a lot of time on in the next few months. One of them is your vision and mission, which you already have. You may want to relook your vision. [1:43:55, 1:43:59]: Vision is a long term twenty year view. Where do you want to go in the next twenty years? [1:44:00, 1:44:02]: From a aspirational perspective. [1:44:03, 1:44:09]: Um, we often encourage and most cities and counties do engage the public in this process. So you get public input. [1:44:10, 1:44:14]: terms of where where they see challenges with the city, what opportunities citizens [1:44:14, 1:44:20]: think uh should be developed within the city. So that's an important part of the strategic planning process. [1:44:21, 1:44:31]: Another big part is what we call an environmental scan. And that's kind of what we're doing today. We're gonna talk about the strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats within the county, what within the city. [1:44:32, 1:44:39]: And so we need your input on that today. We may not finish this process today, but we're definitely gonna get it started. [1:44:39, 1:44:44]: Uh, because we need to get your feedback. You all are obviously very close to the citizenry. [1:44:44, 1:44:57]: And so you're going to be able to represent what you hear out in the city. And we want to hear that today. So a SWOT process, a a pestle analysis, all those sort of environmental scans are an important part of the strategic. [1:44:57, 1:44:59]: Планів процес. [1:44:59, 1:45:14]: So yeah, so today we we want to focus on a SWOT analysis. And uh normally this is something that might take two or three hours to do, uh, where we can flesh things out, uh have a little more time time for debate. [1:45:14, 1:45:16]: Uh so we're on a little bit more of a [1:45:17, 1:45:23]: uh uh time constrained process today, but we we can we can make some progress today on this. [1:45:23, 1:45:31]: Uh Mr. Knighton sent out earlier, I think, Monday or maybe yesterday a SWAT document. It was a two page document. [1:45:31, 1:45:37]: uh to allow you to begin to think about what are the strengths that you see within the city. [1:45:37, 1:45:42]: What are the internal strengths? What are the internal weaknesses within the city? [1:45:43, 1:46:01]: What are the external opportunities and what are the external threats? And I don't know if you all had a chance to to think about this uh before today. I know you've had a lot on your schedule the last few days. You may not have had a chance to uh to actually uh give consideration to [1:46:01, 1:46:04]: This SWAT document that was sent to you. [1:46:04, 1:46:12]: So what I'd like to do is just quickly review what the SWOT is, and then I would love for you all just to take [1:46:12, 1:46:14]: Maybe five minutes. [1:46:14, 1:46:15]: Um [1:46:15, 1:46:20]: uh in independently by yourself and make some notes [1:46:20, 1:46:23]: In each of these areas, S W O T. [1:46:24, 1:46:25]: So if you have a [1:46:25, 1:46:27]: piece of paper and a pen handy. [1:46:28, 1:46:34]: Uh I would love for you to to help track along with this and make notes as I'm kind of going over this overview. [1:46:34, 1:46:48]: And kind of gather your thoughts, begin to think about what are our strengths, what are some weaknesses in the city? What are some opportunities in the city of Stockbridge? And what are some threats? What are some things we need to pay attention to and be careful of? [1:46:49, 1:46:55]: So here's here's what we're here's what we're after. We'd like to start with the S. So if you would as as council members. [1:46:56, 1:47:07]: Um, so let's let's think about strengths for a minute. And when we say strengths, we're talking about internal to the city of Stockbridge. It could be that we have engaged citizens, that could be a strength. [1:47:08, 1:47:11]: It could be that we have a good balance sheet, a good uh [1:47:11, 1:47:14]: Um, you know, uh rainy day account financially. [1:47:14, 1:47:16]: Could be that we have engaged staff. [1:47:17, 1:47:19]: Uh it could be that we're on [1:47:19, 1:47:25]: a major transportation corridor. That that's a strength for the city of Stockbridge. It could be that we have [1:47:25, 1:47:27]: Some historical relevance to our city. [1:47:27, 1:47:35]: uh the Martin Luther King heritage, his family that's a part of Stockbridge. That could be a street of the city of Stockbridge. [1:47:36, 1:47:36]: And so [1:47:37, 1:47:40]: These are these are strengths or things that you can leverage. [1:47:41, 1:47:43]: to take you where you want to go in the future. [1:47:44, 1:47:45]: And so um [1:47:46, 1:47:52]: Uh I would just ask that that that you would as again, as I'm kinda going over this S W O T, if you all would [1:47:53, 1:47:56]: begin to make notes and thoughts yourself. [1:47:57, 1:47:59]: What do you think the strengths are? [1:47:59, 1:48:00]: Of the city. [1:48:01, 1:48:04]: of stop bridge. What are your what are your thoughts? So I'm gonna [1:48:04, 1:48:12]: I'm going to keep talking here to give you all time to kind of process some of this, make some notes. What do you see as the strengths? [1:48:13, 1:48:19]: So next is uh weaknesses. And we're gonna I'm gonna go through all four of these. [1:48:19, 1:48:27]: And then what I'd like to do is circle back and get all of you to actually share what you're writing down. I wanna I would love to hear from you today and have you voice. [1:48:27, 1:48:32]: what you're what's on your mind in terms of this area. So at strengths is s [1:48:33, 1:48:34]: W is weakness. [1:48:35, 1:48:38]: Now these are internal weaknesses. So you may say, um [1:48:39, 1:48:42]: One of the weaknesses we have is that we don't communicate very well. [1:48:43, 1:48:49]: Uh another weakness might be is that we don't um have a good system to listen to our citizens. We don't have a good [1:48:50, 1:48:55]: structure or process to get citizen feedback. That could be a weakness of the city of Stockbridge. [1:48:56, 1:49:00]: Uh it could be that there's a disconnect between the council and the staff in terms of priorities. [1:49:01, 1:49:04]: Uh, you could have a weakness that says um [1:49:04, 1:49:08]: You know, financially, uh, we're not as strong as we need to be. We need [1:49:09, 1:49:10]: X number of months of [1:49:11, 1:49:15]: reserves and we only have Y reserves. So that would be a weakness. [1:49:15, 1:49:18]: Um so these are internal [1:49:18, 1:49:22]: Weaknesses, these are deficiencies that we have as a city. [1:49:23, 1:49:26]: That could hurt us, that we need to work on, that we need to [1:49:27, 1:49:31]: spend time and and think about and and work on. So you've we got to have strengths. [1:49:31, 1:49:33]: We got our weaknesses. [1:49:33, 1:49:34]: Um [1:49:36, 1:49:41]: Uh it it could be a weakness that we don't have enough industry in Stockbridge. [1:49:41, 1:49:43]: Or we're too reliant on [1:49:44, 1:49:47]: property tax or we're too reliant on [1:49:47, 1:49:49]: Um lost revenue. [1:49:50, 1:49:55]: Uh we don't have enough retail venues. A weakness could be that our downtown is not vibrant. [1:49:56, 1:50:02]: Um a a number of things could be it in your estimation, and we want your thoughts on this. What do you see? [1:50:03, 1:50:07]: As areas where the city has weaknesses or deficiencies. [1:50:07, 1:50:09]: That we need to work on. [1:50:11, 1:50:12]: So that's [1:50:12, 1:50:13]: Yes for strength. [1:50:14, 1:50:15]: W for weakness. [1:50:16, 1:50:26]: So now what we want to do is kind of shift over and talk about opportunities. And when we think of opportunities, we really want to think of external opportunities. [1:50:27, 1:50:28]: External. [1:50:28, 1:50:33]: So these would be opportunities for you all to reach out into other [1:50:33, 1:50:39]: uh other areas outside of stock bridge, this might be an external opportunity might be [1:50:39, 1:50:40]: Um [1:50:40, 1:50:45]: Спіквит work with Universтіa Georgia system. [1:50:45, 1:50:53]: to to put a uh a remote campus, a learning campus in Stockbridge. That would be an external opportunity. [1:50:53, 1:51:00]: In other words, it's an opportunity to work with a party outside of Stockbridge to bring something into Stockbridge. [1:51:01, 1:51:10]: It could be that you want to develop better partnerships with state officials, or maybe you want to develop better partnerships with [1:51:10, 1:51:16]: business entities outside of Stockbridge. So they can bring something to Stockbridge. [1:51:16, 1:51:17]: So [1:51:17, 1:51:21]: Opportunities are things that you see [1:51:21, 1:51:25]: Uh, it could be tourism. It could be, you know what, we really need to [1:51:25, 1:51:26]: Um [1:51:26, 1:51:28]: uh leverage some of our [1:51:28, 1:51:32]: Um Martin Luther King hсhistorial presence. [1:51:32, 1:51:37]: And and that's an opportunity to bring in resources from outside of Stockbridge. [1:51:38, 1:51:41]: to benefit our city, to create more of a tourism. [1:51:41, 1:51:42]: So when we think about [1:51:43, 1:51:48]: opportunities we're thinking about who can we partner with, what can we do externally. [1:51:49, 1:51:50]: With external stakeholders [1:51:51, 1:51:52]: To benefit [1:51:52, 1:51:54]: The city of Stockbridge. [1:51:55, 1:52:02]: So we wanna be creative here. We we we don't wanna uh be constrained. Let's pretend for a minute like we've got unlimited funds. [1:52:03, 1:52:07]: Uh we don't have unlimited funds, of course, so we're gonna have to have that conversation later. [1:52:07, 1:52:11]: But let's let's think creatively. Who can we partner with externally? [1:52:12, 1:52:15]: Who can we team up with? Who can we talk to, work with? [1:52:15, 1:52:17]: To bring opportunities. [1:52:18, 1:52:21]: to the city of Stockbridge. And and it could be economic development. [1:52:22, 1:52:27]: could be any number of uh could be tourism as I mentioned earlier. So those are opportunities. [1:52:27, 1:52:29]: And those are external. [1:52:29, 1:52:33]: The last section is threats. [1:52:34, 1:52:40]: So threats are things that can spoil your plans, right? Threats are [1:52:40, 1:52:45]: Things like well, covet is a threat, uh a health crisis is a threat. [1:52:45, 1:52:46]: Um [1:52:47, 1:52:48]: The economy. [1:52:48, 1:52:55]: turns south this summer, this fall. That would be a threat to the city of Stockbridge because it would affect [1:52:56, 1:52:58]: Your tax revenues, if um [1:52:58, 1:53:04]: if if the economy were to to uh to uh not perform well, the national economy, the local economy. [1:53:05, 1:53:08]: So threats are things that can come along. [1:53:08, 1:53:12]: And hurt your plans and take away from your plans. [1:53:12, 1:53:16]: Um it it could be really anything, as I say, from a from a health [1:53:17, 1:53:19]: crisis to a financial crisis. [1:53:20, 1:53:24]: Uh could be a technology crisis. It could be that um [1:53:24, 1:53:27]: The city is із хелд хстач ба. [1:53:27, 1:53:31]: you know, uh hackers and and these that that's an external threat. [1:53:31, 1:53:33]: to the city of Stockbridge. [1:53:33, 1:53:37]: Uh, that's happened to a lot of communities in Georgia, as you all know. And [1:53:37, 1:53:42]: And that's an external threat that the city's vulnerable potentially. [1:53:42, 1:53:47]: And once we know what the threat is, then we need to have a discussion about how to minimize that threat. [1:53:48, 1:53:56]: So that's that's kind of the overview. That's what we're trying to to do today. Strengths, internal strengths. [1:53:57, 1:53:59]: Internal weaknesses. [1:54:00, 1:54:02]: Екстена опонтії. [1:54:02, 1:54:04]: Ан екстерно треть. [1:54:05, 1:54:09]: Those are the four areas. Um, if you would like [1:54:09, 1:54:09]: Um [1:54:10, 1:54:11]: This is a question for [1:54:12, 1:54:14]: Elected officials. If you need a few minutes. [1:54:15, 1:54:15]: I've just [1:54:16, 1:54:19]: being silent and thinking about this. [1:54:20, 1:54:25]: If you need a few more minutes to process on this and think about it and make some notes, that's fine. Let's take a few minutes of [1:54:26, 1:54:27]: Quiet and do that. [1:54:28, 1:54:31]: Or if you've got some notes and fonts prepared now. [1:54:32, 1:54:45]: Um we can we can move forward because I would like to go through this and actually hear each of you contribute in these four areas. What what would you all like to do? Mr Mr. Mayor, you have any a sense? Should we spend a few more minutes on this? [1:54:45, 1:55:00]: Well, we probably could spend a few more minutes, but I I I went through while you were talking, I went down and wrote down um uh some bullet comments and each of the four categories as you were talking. So I'm ready to go now, but rest of the council may not be. Uh, but uh I've got something for each category. [1:55:00, 1:55:02]: To share what outcomes personally. [1:55:03, 1:55:09]: Okay, well let me just ask uh uh Councilman Thomas, uh Barber, Alexander, Gantt, others [1:55:09, 1:55:10]: А блон [1:55:10, 1:55:14]: Uh could should we go ahead and go now or do y'all need a few minutes to to process on this? [1:55:15, 1:55:19]: Well I I this is Councilman Thomas. I I think we could go forward. [1:55:20, 1:55:21]: As one [1:55:21, 1:55:30]: elected person speak, the other probably could finish up their writing and probably could come in. I think all of us that wishes to speak. [1:55:30, 1:55:37]: Uh we'll probably have an opportunity to write and then actually come back and comment. I'm okay with the mayor starting it out. [1:55:38, 1:55:38]: Okay. [1:55:39, 1:55:40]: My [1:55:40, 1:55:41]: Anybody else? [1:55:42, 1:56:02]: All right, well, I can start it out. I have no problem. My yes, sir. We want to start with strengths, right? Since it's first yes, sir. Okay. We've uh as we discussed already earlier, we a strength would be to me would be great financial stability. We're financially stable in a sense. Uh we talked about that earlier. I have I I would say we have a great professional staff uh that executes uh our [1:56:02, 1:56:13]: our legislative decisions. Uh and and uh I I really think we got compliment them and and and we selected some great people to to do the heavy lifting uh daily. [1:56:14, 1:56:26]: Uh you mentioned about the historical aspect of the King family. That is a that is a strength definitely because no other city in the country can claim that other than Atlanta where the King family settled, but it's all started right here in Stockbridge. So we're connected. [1:56:26, 1:56:31]: It internally, uh, to Atlanta, of course, and then to the King family and that legacy there. [1:56:31, 1:56:37]: And I'll say the future future uh potential future developments of the strength. I mean our downtown area. [1:56:37, 1:56:39]: It has a potential. [1:56:39, 1:56:59]: uh to grow and with the with the uh the the actual amphitheater being an anchor the redevelopment process and starts everything going and uh i think that that's excellent uh and then then of course we have our bridges of johtico mixed use development at uh on the small southern part of starbridge at uh highway 75 and jodico [1:56:59, 1:57:19]: road and uh we've got a very bright future there and uh i mean even here recently i know we'll talk about this uh here a little later on in uh normal retreat but the movement that's going on that and of course the decision to uh put the the the aquatic center there um is a great uh great thing and uh we have nothing but potential to [1:57:19, 1:57:24]: to grow, to be prosperous. So I think those are all strengths. And that's why I wrote down those comments. [1:57:24, 1:57:35]: Very good. Very good. I've I think let's let's do this one at a time. We'll do the S's first and let everybody go around the horn and share their strengths and then we'll do weaknesses next. Uh Councilman Thomas, looks like you might be ready. [1:57:36, 1:57:37]: Well yeah. [1:57:38, 1:57:43]: Damit saltar I I think what you're gonna find here, uh many of us are probably going to [1:57:44, 1:57:51]: Indicate some of the very same thing, but I'm going to sort of just talk about one of the things that the mayor did not for the strength. [1:57:51, 1:57:55]: I I think one of our biggest assets is our um [1:57:55, 1:58:09]: community engagement. You know, we have a number of um historic churches. Uh we have a lot of uh nonprofits, a lot of uh civic organizations, and and I think, you know, for me, [1:58:09, 1:58:13]: uh the value of your citiz of your city is in your citizenry. [1:58:14, 1:58:20]: And I I think that and I think all of the council probably will agree that we do have great citizens, we have great organization. [1:58:20, 1:58:23]: Uh we partner quite a bit with um [1:58:23, 1:58:41]: many of the the businesses uh the fraternities and sororities but um i i just really want to sort of harp on the churches we have a number of uh historic churches that was established back in the 1860s and um you know they're a great part and i know the mayor has a [1:58:42, 1:58:59]: um round table, clergy round table where they feed into uh the city expect. So I think that's one of the great strengths that we have in the city of Stockbridge is our ability to engage in our citizens and they sort of feed back into [1:58:59, 1:59:08]: um you know some of their community concerns. So I think that is a great strength of ours. Nice. Yeah, that's good. Thank you. I I appreciate that. I figured [1:59:08, 1:59:13]: Y'all may have a lot of duplicates. So anything you wanna add? Yes, ma'am, Councilwoman Barber. [1:59:17, 1:59:19]: Um for the streams. Um [1:59:20, 1:59:24]: I think our close proximity to I seven five. [1:59:24, 1:59:27]: downtown Atlanta and the airport. [1:59:27, 1:59:31]: Um is a great strength of ours. Just wanted to add that. [1:59:31, 1:59:33]: Um, I think the mayor already [1:59:33, 1:59:36]: Um spoke about our good financial position. [1:59:36, 1:59:39]: Um DML K senior heritage. [1:59:39, 1:59:40]: Um [1:59:40, 1:59:42]: And those were a couple of things I could come up with. [1:59:43, 1:59:46]: Excellent. Yes, thank you very much. I appreciate that. I think you're right. You're [1:59:46, 1:59:48]: Geographical location. [1:59:49, 1:59:52]: Definitely can play to your advantage as a strength. Absolutely. Thank you. [1:59:59, 2:00:03]: Anyone else uh wanna add to that? Maybe something that wasn't covered, uh [2:00:04, 2:00:05]: Yes, ma'am, Ms. Gantt. [2:00:06, 2:00:08]: I think that the um [2:00:08, 2:00:26]: Uh I agree with all of those statements. And I also think that the mayor and council are pretty much when it comes to different projects on the same page. Everyone's forward thinking in regards to wanting to do more for the citizens. Um, and I think we we all have agreed. [2:00:26, 2:00:31]: on those things, on the capital projects and and come up with a plan in the way that we want to do them. [2:00:32, 2:00:32]: Mm-hmm. [2:00:33, 2:00:35]: Absolutely. Yes. Thank you. [2:00:38, 2:00:43]: Anyone else, uh Councilman Blount, Alexander, any any final thoughts or or you they pretty much covered everything. [2:00:44, 2:00:51]: Well, I just simply concur with everybody. You know, we we can go down the line of many strengths and I think that uh [2:00:51, 2:00:57]: Um just coming together as a council and realizing and uh recognizing how to [2:00:57, 2:00:58]: Um [2:00:59, 2:01:03]: how to you know exploit those strengths and and benefit the citizens. [2:01:03, 2:01:10]: Um is what we, you know, need to stay in in line and continue to do. So I just concur with everything everybody's saying. [2:01:11, 2:01:11]: Good. [2:01:12, 2:01:13]: Thank you, and I uh uh [2:01:13, 2:01:14]: Well [2:01:15, 2:01:18]: Mayor Pro Tem, Alexander, I saw your thumbs up, so you're you're good. You're good on this. [2:01:19, 2:01:20]: I think uh [2:01:20, 2:01:27]: You know, the idea of us all getting behind and coalescing behind these strengths is very important for morale. [2:01:28, 2:01:32]: Um that's for the staff, citizens, council. So I think [2:01:33, 2:01:35]: uh as we write this these [2:01:35, 2:01:37]: things up in the next few days. [2:01:37, 2:01:42]: Uh th these things these streets can really act as a as a way for us to coalesce around [2:01:42, 2:01:43]: The good. [2:01:44, 2:01:47]: Uh all right. So let's talk about weaknesses, internal weaknesses. [2:01:48, 2:01:50]: Um uh Mayor Ford, would you like to start us off? [2:01:50, 2:02:10]: Sure. What I have a couple of bullet comments. And one is uh not having a con not have a consistent or controlled message uh out to the public or the citizenry. Obviously we're all citizens, we all have a freedom to speak, but when it comes to decisions that are made by the council as a body, we can need to have a controlled central message that we all buy into. And so [2:02:10, 2:02:30]: So I think that that's a must. We speak with one voice once we have our debates and discussions, and then we move out with a consistent message. And the other thing I had is that as we grow and as we get larger with our citizenry, as we as we large get larger to serve our community, we need to make sure we have a proper amount of space for our professionals. [2:02:30, 2:02:41]: professional staff that they feel comfortable, they feel uh uh needed, wanted, and they and they have a good office space and able to communicate properly. And we kind of touched base on that earlier in our conversation when it came to the [2:02:42, 2:02:49]: Uh police discussion in reference to the allocation of planning and zoning folks potentially moving them to another location. So we got to make sure we have enough space. [2:02:50, 2:02:55]: for professional staff so they'd be comfortable daily on doing their jobs. I just had two bullet comments on that. [2:02:55, 2:02:56]: Okay. [2:02:57, 2:02:57]: Very good. [2:03:03, 2:03:04]: Yes, sir, Mr Thomas. [2:03:05, 2:03:06]: Um [2:03:07, 2:03:08]: W one of the [2:03:08, 2:03:11]: glaring weaknesses I think in [2:03:12, 2:03:15]: Really sort of disturbs me. Um [2:03:15, 2:03:19]: Has to do with um organizational distractions. [2:03:20, 2:03:21]: Um [2:03:23, 2:03:33]: I've you know, I've been an e elected official for a while. I've been involved in a number of uh organizations, um, civic organizations. [2:03:33, 2:03:35]: uh church organization [2:03:36, 2:03:39]: uh college organizations and I do understand [2:03:39, 2:03:42]: uh the process of of voting [2:03:43, 2:03:46]: I I think something that we miss here as an elected body. [2:03:47, 2:03:51]: Um the process of of agreeing and not agreeing. [2:03:52, 2:03:52]: Um [2:03:53, 2:03:59]: You know, we we are tasked with um, you know, legislation. Oftentimes, you know, some of us [2:03:59, 2:04:03]: agree with the legislation, sometimes we oppose [2:04:03, 2:04:05]: But what what my orientation is [2:04:06, 2:04:07]: Well, I may [2:04:08, 2:04:15]: disagree or I may oppose uh the consensus of whatever that vote is. [2:04:15, 2:04:17]: But I do understand that [2:04:17, 2:04:20]: You know, there's there's a level of respect. [2:04:21, 2:04:21]: Um [2:04:22, 2:04:22]: To the vote. [2:04:23, 2:04:29]: Now, even though again, you know, you can be on the opposing side and I've been on the opposing side many times. [2:04:29, 2:04:30]: Мені там. [2:04:31, 2:04:33]: But I I think we have to learn how to [2:04:34, 2:04:35]: Респект [2:04:35, 2:04:40]: uh the vote. And I I I think that's sort of a distraction. [2:04:40, 2:04:43]: That that takes us away from [2:04:43, 2:04:45]: Our true potential. [2:04:45, 2:04:48]: Uh in and moving forward because [2:04:48, 2:04:50]: It it takes on a [2:04:51, 2:04:52]: Um a [2:04:53, 2:04:54]: Personal [2:04:54, 2:04:58]: uh persona, which I don't think is good for [2:04:58, 2:05:00]: Um, you know, morale. [2:05:00, 2:05:11]: uh as well as you know the morale of staff even even the the morale of a citizen because um i i I read the comments and and I hear the feedback [2:05:11, 2:05:15]: And and our citizens are really just disturbed with [2:05:16, 2:05:17]: That [2:05:17, 2:05:21]: Uh, disagreement that we have on legislation. [2:05:21, 2:05:25]: Yeah. [2:05:25, 2:05:26]: I I have [2:05:26, 2:05:28]: Лерн хаути. [2:05:29, 2:05:32]: Um the decision, whether I'm in favor or against. [2:05:32, 2:05:37]: Um and and that that's the nature of organization. It's always gonna be a vote. [2:05:38, 2:05:42]: There's always gonna be a time when you're in favor, there's gonna be a time when you're against. [2:05:42, 2:05:44]: But we have to not poison. [2:05:45, 2:05:51]: uh you know the the the drinking water of the citizens and and staff we have to just learn how to move forward. [2:05:52, 2:05:52]: Yes, sir. [2:05:53, 2:05:59]: Yes, sir. Well well said. And I I you know, I I I see that as a challenge in a lot of cities and counties. [2:05:59, 2:06:06]: Um, but it is something that that obviously we we want to improve on. It it's just um it's pretty basic. So [2:06:07, 2:06:11]: Yes, sir. Very good. Uh who wants to go next? Uh Ms. Barber? [2:06:16, 2:06:25]: Um okay, so I actually asked Mr. Knighton about a SWOT analysis because I wanted to understand um the city's [2:06:25, 2:06:28]: Short term and long term plans. [2:06:28, 2:06:29]: Um [2:06:29, 2:06:31]: So I'm glad we're doing this exercise. [2:06:32, 2:06:32]: Um [2:06:33, 2:06:35]: One of the areas of improvement. [2:06:35, 2:06:38]: Written policies of procedures. [2:06:38, 2:06:41]: uh from a staff perspective, the staff level. [2:06:42, 2:06:42]: Um [2:06:44, 2:06:51]: Communications, um, not just as um the elected body, but also with staff. [2:06:51, 2:06:52]: There's a lot of [2:06:53, 2:06:53]: Follow up. [2:06:54, 2:06:57]: That I know just for me, I'm constantly having to do [2:06:58, 2:07:01]: Um just to find out where we are with certain things. [2:07:01, 2:07:02]: Um [2:07:02, 2:07:08]: Community engagement is actually something I think we need to work to improve. [2:07:08, 2:07:09]: Um [2:07:10, 2:07:18]: I know all of us is sharing information cr across social media, but actually getting the public involved. [2:07:18, 2:07:23]: actively involved and engaged in the discussions is something I'd like to see us improve. [2:07:24, 2:07:33]: Um, our marketing strategies is something that we definitely need to improve upon. We have an amphitheater that's gonna be coming live in just a couple of months. [2:07:34, 2:07:35]: Um [2:07:35, 2:07:40]: yet we are not doing any advertisement for it, um, just to kind of get the word out. [2:07:40, 2:07:42]: That this amphitheater will be coming on board in the future. [2:07:44, 2:07:44]: Um [2:07:45, 2:07:54]: Oh, lack of human service programs. Through the pandemic, we know that there were a lot of people who were financially affected. [2:07:55, 2:08:01]: Um by the pandemic. The homeless. There was an increased homeless population. [2:08:01, 2:08:01]: And [2:08:02, 2:08:03]: The city doesn't have [2:08:03, 2:08:11]: human service programs. So that's something I'd like for us to improve upon or try to implement in some way. [2:08:11, 2:08:12]: Yes. [2:08:13, 2:08:14]: Okay, and that's it. [2:08:15, 2:08:18]: Yeah, that's great. That's a great list. Thank you. [2:08:18, 2:08:22]: Uh th this this list normally is pretty long, you know, so uh [2:08:23, 2:08:26]: Yeah, uh we we may spend the next twenty minutes finishing up this list, which is fine. [2:08:27, 2:08:30]: We'll take it as it comes. But thank you. Those are great those are great thoughts. [2:08:38, 2:08:40]: Whoever else would like to go next. [2:08:44, 2:08:51]: Well, I'll go next. Um I have um of lack of planning. Basically. [2:08:52, 2:08:53]: You know, we will [2:08:54, 2:08:57]: Uh jump to the gun, a person wants to [2:08:57, 2:08:57]: Um [2:08:58, 2:09:00]: do something without planning it out. [2:09:01, 2:09:06]: first and then have you know eras in between. So I think that we can improve on that. [2:09:07, 2:09:07]: Um [2:09:08, 2:09:09]: You know. [2:09:09, 2:09:12]: Less lawsuits. I'm glad that we no longer [2:09:12, 2:09:26]: um that we're pretty much settling um all the lawsuits. But as much as we can reduce in regards to lawsuits, I think that would help the city out a lot. They're very costly. [2:09:27, 2:09:27]: Um [2:09:28, 2:09:31]: negative media attention. [2:09:31, 2:09:33]: Um or immediate. [2:09:33, 2:09:35]: Unwanted media attention. [2:09:35, 2:09:52]: I think that oftentimes, if you notice, stop bridge is always in the media, whether the news is small or or large. At some point, I I understand that's a great way of getting communication out to citizens, but we need to be mindful. [2:09:52, 2:09:53]: Um [2:09:53, 2:10:04]: of that we have a house which leads me into our PIO officer. We have someone as our PIO officer and therefore we need to [2:10:04, 2:10:05]: Um [2:10:07, 2:10:15]: Utilize our staff, utilize our PIO officer, and allow them to speak on behalf of Stockbridge in one voice. [2:10:16, 2:10:23]: Um and I think we always reiterate that pretty much every single retreat or all the time in regards to that. Um [2:10:24, 2:10:27]: I also have here [2:10:27, 2:10:44]: Um racing to be first. Oftentimes I think and that this is not just Stockbridge, but I I see it throughout the all government entities a lot here in Henry County. Instead of getting it right or working and acting as a team. [2:10:45, 2:10:46]: Um, you know [2:10:46, 2:10:50]: I see a lot of people or see incidents where people [2:10:51, 2:11:01]: hurry up, want to get it out first. And then you have to come back and reverse and and make it right. Um so racing to be first to me. Um [2:11:01, 2:11:06]: can be a weakness of ours instead of acting as a team. Um [2:11:06, 2:11:11]: The lack of communication between all mayor and council. [2:11:11, 2:11:12]: Um [2:11:12, 2:11:28]: And I'm guilty of that myself, even in the past. There's been some incidents where I would send an email to one particular person or not want to send to all. That can be a problem and arise out of a problem. And I agree with [2:11:28, 2:11:36]: Everything Councilman Thomas stated in regards to, you know, respect the vote once we vote on an issue or topic. [2:11:37, 2:11:42]: Um the other council members who voted against or if things didn't go your way. [2:11:43, 2:11:49]: No one should be ridiculed about it. That's the democra uh democrat democracy. [2:11:49, 2:11:50]: Um uh [2:11:51, 2:11:54]: our government. You appreciate the vote. [2:11:54, 2:12:01]: and you move on, but to mislead or misguide the citizens um is at issue. [2:12:02, 2:12:03]: And that's pretty much it. [2:12:04, 2:12:05]: Yeah. [2:12:05, 2:12:06]: Very good. [2:12:06, 2:12:07]: Thank you. [2:12:07, 2:12:08]: Thank you very much. [2:12:08, 2:12:11]: Uh those are those are very good comments. [2:12:13, 2:12:17]: All right. Who sh uh uh Councilman Blount, uh Alexander? [2:12:31, 2:12:34]: Gentlemen, anybody have any comments at all? Additional comments? [2:12:36, 2:12:40]: No, I'm fine. Uh I I'm concerned with everything everybody's saying on that. [2:12:41, 2:12:46]: Uh in my in my estimation, uh what we have a weakness on is zoning. [2:12:46, 2:12:51]: Uh it's killing us because uh we have one residential subdivision. [2:12:52, 2:12:54]: Under construction in the city. [2:12:54, 2:12:58]: And the council is inexperienced on zonings, which cause [2:12:58, 2:13:01]: chaos in terms of zoning cases. What we need to be able to do [2:13:02, 2:13:05]: Is then we need to familiarize ourselves, take some classes. [2:13:06, 2:13:07]: Or actually take notes. [2:13:08, 2:13:09]: uh in terms of what we're doing. [2:13:10, 2:13:15]: Uh, as far as zoning cases come and understand what the customary practices are. [2:13:15, 2:13:17]: Uh in terms of zoning. [2:13:17, 2:13:18]: And to also [2:13:18, 2:13:20]: Understand the law. [2:13:20, 2:13:22]: And you know, in in [2:13:23, 2:13:28]: And one thing we have to be able to do, we have to have the courage to tell this the courage. [2:13:28, 2:13:33]: To vote for the law, right or wrong versus when you're under political pressure. [2:13:33, 2:13:37]: Uh, there's gonna be a lot of that coming because our city is very [2:13:37, 2:13:42]: Uh we've built out the city's built out. There's not a lot of available land in there. [2:13:42, 2:13:45]: And we preach that we want growth. [2:13:45, 2:13:49]: And we say that over and over and over again, but when it comes to having growth. [2:13:49, 2:13:51]: It requires density. [2:13:51, 2:13:53]: And it requires [2:13:53, 2:13:55]: Uh new development. [2:13:55, 2:13:58]: Sometimes there's going to be controversy when it comes to [2:13:58, 2:14:04]: a particular zoning case or or that being established. So we might have make sure that we [2:14:04, 2:14:16]: uh uh uh uh familiarize ourselves with zoning process uh and procedures. We gotta know the rules before the game starts and then when those rules are being enforced we need to move forward with that. [2:14:17, 2:14:18]: Uh in terms of um [2:14:19, 2:14:34]: uh you know the appearance of our city is a weakness. We have a lot of second and third generation buildings that need to be replaced. And that requires uh an active economic development presence in Mr. Peterson. [2:14:34, 2:14:40]: And it also requires that we move forward with the citywide development authority, which has been on the board. [2:14:40, 2:14:45]: For as long as I can remember, but the members still haven't been appointed yet. [2:14:45, 2:14:48]: So those are the kind of things where [2:14:48, 2:14:51]: Great cities move nimbly. [2:14:51, 2:14:54]: You make quick decisions because [2:14:55, 2:14:57]: Time is money and we have to be nimble. [2:14:58, 2:14:59]: And what we do. [2:14:59, 2:15:00]: Uh as a community. [2:15:01, 2:15:02]: Sometimes you can [2:15:02, 2:15:05]: uh pontificate things to death. [2:15:06, 2:15:07]: And not [2:15:07, 2:15:10]: Uh miss out on the opportunity that is right before you. [2:15:11, 2:15:11]: So [2:15:12, 2:15:12]: Іно [2:15:12, 2:15:14]: Quick, efficient. [2:15:14, 2:15:17]: Uh operations mean making decisions. [2:15:17, 2:15:18]: And [2:15:18, 2:15:19]: In my estimation. [2:15:20, 2:15:25]: And I'm gonna say this to this council is that you you if you were elected by the citizens. [2:15:26, 2:15:32]: If you have to poll the citizens for every time something comes up. [2:15:33, 2:15:34]: You failed at this job. [2:15:35, 2:15:45]: because you can't do if you don't are if you're not connected to them, you already kind of know and you have that conversation. Because I talk with people every day and all of us do. [2:15:45, 2:15:47]: And then when I hear somebody say at a meeting [2:15:47, 2:15:55]: That I don't want I I we need to go talk to the citizens. Why aren't you talking to the citizens already? [2:15:55, 2:16:06]: Five that come to the podium are not gonna move me because I already talk to the citizens every single day, as we all should, and we allow that political pressure. [2:16:06, 2:16:08]: Uh to keep the city from growing. [2:16:09, 2:16:12]: uh efficiently in making wise decisions. [2:16:15, 2:16:15]: Excellent. [2:16:16, 2:16:23]: Thank you. Thank you very much. One of the things I'm gonna do as a result of this with Mr. Knight and just to let you all know, all this will be written up, typed up, documented. [2:16:24, 2:16:28]: What we're not doing today, what we don't have time to do today is to debate [2:16:29, 2:16:40]: which of these is the most important, right? We've got a nice long list of weaknesses. These are all legitimate issues that need to be talked about, debated, uh um discussed. [2:16:40, 2:16:48]: We need some healthy conflict around these issues to to try to get to the three or four that are the most pressing, most urgent. [2:16:49, 2:16:53]: That's a discussion we can't have today just because we don't have the time, but we wanna have that discussion. [2:16:54, 2:17:01]: uh down the road with you all to get some priorities from all of these. But thank you very much. This is a great, great list. All right. [2:17:01, 2:17:05]: We're gonna start back up with the mayor, uh opportunities, external. [2:17:05, 2:17:07]: Opportunities. [2:17:07, 2:17:27]: Well, my my first note that deals with establishing uh a better cooperative relationship with our county leadership. There are three uh, which is twofold, which it comes from them as well as us. We have three of the commissioners touch base on the city of Stockbridge itself. And so there's they have a uh and and so the same citizens that they that they [2:17:27, 2:17:45]: that they serve or the citizens we serve as well. So just establish a better relationship with them. And like I said, that's twofold. It it it means that uh we need to work with them and vice versa, need to work with us as well. So that's that's an opportunity, I think. And and if we can work do that, we can work better together and for the betterment of all our citizens in our immediate area. [2:17:46, 2:18:06]: uh public-private partnerships is an opportunity once again to to help build our downtown area and help make it thrive, make opportunities for those business leaders and entrepreneurs to help build up the downtown area, as well as working with our developer and and and the mixed-use development of Jodeco South. And those those are opportunities for the growth of the city. [2:18:06, 2:18:26]: And it make the city a really star, a really bright star in Henry County in the particular region itself. Um we talked about M.L. King Sr. So otherwise just establishing a better relationship uh with the King Center itself, and uh since we're we're connected to them uh because of the [2:18:26, 2:18:46]: ancestry and heritage that we we jointly serve and just kind of work with them on on establishing a a better relationship and establishing more of a historical and a tourism type of uh relationship and uh and growth and growth potential there. And my last bullet comment actually deals with the uh working with uh Northworth Southern [2:18:46, 2:19:06]: uh for because that's very key for us to work with Northwest Southern and work on a quiet zone for the future development of downtown area. And uh that would help make it make things thrive in this aspect. So uh and we we had some things going on, but the pandemic knocked us off track here. So it was something that we need to get back on. And I think [2:19:06, 2:19:26]: I think that is um very key uh for future and growth of our downtown area to kind of work with them and work through the process of a quiet zone and um allow the the the which help attract the the uh private uh uh businesses or partnerships and entrepreneurs into an area if we were able to solve that as well. [2:19:26, 2:19:29]: Thank you. Absolutely. Yeah. Thank you. That's awesome. [2:19:30, 2:19:30]: Um [2:19:31, 2:19:31]: Very good. [2:19:31, 2:19:33]: All right, who who would like to go next? [2:19:34, 2:19:34]: Um [2:19:35, 2:19:39]: I I'd just like to speak briefly about opportunities. [2:19:39, 2:19:40]: And as we um [2:19:42, 2:19:46]: Notice in our financial report by uh Mr. Wiggins. [2:19:46, 2:19:47]: Um [2:19:48, 2:19:51]: I don't think there are many cities. [2:19:51, 2:19:52]: Um [2:19:53, 2:19:55]: that are in financial [2:19:55, 2:19:56]: Um [2:19:57, 2:20:03]: stability shape that that we are in here in the city of Stockbridge, would give which gives us [2:20:03, 2:20:07]: uh um a low uh latitude [2:20:08, 2:20:09]: An improving [2:20:10, 2:20:11]: Um [2:20:12, 2:20:13]: Our infrastructure. [2:20:14, 2:20:17]: uh being able to um [2:20:17, 2:20:20]: create uh capital and and city projects. [2:20:21, 2:20:27]: And and and and and all of the things that we do, I I think one of the mandates of our municipalities. [2:20:27, 2:20:28]: Is to create [2:20:29, 2:20:30]: A better [2:20:31, 2:20:34]: um environment a better [2:20:34, 2:20:36]: uh life or living [2:20:37, 2:20:51]: um environment for all citizens that wishes to move to the city of Star Grid. So I think because of this opportunity that we have, I I think we are in a better position to be able to [2:20:51, 2:20:57]: uh you know, make these kind of improvements. And if you notice this is why one of the reasons why [2:20:57, 2:21:05]: Uh, we have an influx of folks actually moving to the city of Startbridge because they also recognize the opportunities. [2:21:05, 2:21:11]: that are here uh in the in this region. So I just think because of our financial uh outlook. [2:21:12, 2:21:19]: that you know, we we do have these opportunity to be able to uh to make these certain improvements here in the city of Stockbridge. [2:21:21, 2:21:29]: Yeah, uh the I I hear what you're saying. And um again, we don't have time today to unpack that fully. I think at another date it would be worth [2:21:30, 2:21:31]: Asking the question [2:21:31, 2:21:36]: What are those improvements specifically? Are they sidewalks? Are they trails? Are they [2:21:36, 2:21:40]: uh uh sewer sewer uh upgrading sewer system [2:21:41, 2:21:48]: You know, street lighting. What are those quality is it is it is enhancing our parks? I mean, there is any number of things, right, that could [2:21:48, 2:22:00]: improve quality of life. We don't have time to dig into that today, but you bring up a really good point. You could also say that what you're talking about, sir, are also weaknesses, right? These are areas where we're deficient. [2:22:00, 2:22:02]: But because we have financial strength. [2:22:03, 2:22:11]: We we can overcome some of these weaknesses because we do have some financial stability. So that's that's really great. I I love what you're saying there. Thank you. Thank you very much. [2:22:15, 2:22:16]: Who's next? There we go. [2:22:18, 2:22:23]: The uh I'll speak up next. The uh opportunities are limitless. [2:22:23, 2:22:26]: Because of our location and proximity. [2:22:26, 2:22:28]: Uh to the city of Atlanta. [2:22:28, 2:22:31]: Uh you know that connection really uh [2:22:31, 2:22:36]: Is an economic boom for us as was stated earlier, the I seventy five. [2:22:36, 2:22:36]: Um [2:22:37, 2:22:41]: uh running right through the middle of our city is such a blessing that some people just [2:22:42, 2:22:45]: Some cities just don't have that and we take it for granted. [2:22:45, 2:22:48]: You know, just like last night when the East Floss passed. [2:22:49, 2:22:54]: You know, uh those travelers moving through here generate three hundred and fifty million dollars a year. [2:22:55, 2:22:57]: For education, and uh we certainly need [2:22:58, 2:22:59]: Those improvements. [2:22:59, 2:23:00]: Uh right here. [2:23:01, 2:23:02]: uh in our community. [2:23:02, 2:23:05]: And another I mentioned that um [2:23:06, 2:23:11]: A wit uh one of the weaknesses was the second and third generation built businesses. [2:23:11, 2:23:17]: uh buildings that we have in the city along North Emory Boulevard and certain appearances in the city. [2:23:17, 2:23:20]: But there's also an opportunity at the same time. [2:23:20, 2:23:24]: Because if we move forward with the city wide development authority, [2:23:24, 2:23:29]: Mr. Peterson is successful and our community development director comes in and put in [2:23:29, 2:23:32]: solid uh we do do the ULDC correctly. [2:23:32, 2:23:43]: Uh we have a slate that of some of these buildings because the market is surging with uh that those whole dilapidated structures could be demolished. [2:23:44, 2:23:53]: creating a new slate to build modern buildings along this corridor and the traffic counts and the access to I-75 dictates. [2:23:53, 2:23:55]: That is exactly what's gonna happen. [2:23:55, 2:23:58]: So those second and third generation buildings. [2:23:58, 2:24:01]: That we consider eyesores right now. [2:24:01, 2:24:05]: will actually be disappearing as new development comes to the city. [2:24:05, 2:24:09]: They knocked them down and they put in new development. [2:24:09, 2:24:12]: But in order to take advantage of that. [2:24:12, 2:24:14]: You have to be willing. [2:24:14, 2:24:18]: to rezone the property and you have to be willing to embrace [2:24:19, 2:24:26]: Density because along those commercial corridors, you're going to have to have multifamily if you want to. [2:24:27, 2:24:38]: uh advance those properties. If you want an investor to come in and invest in those, you gotta do that because the multifamily is a a component that helps fuel it. [2:24:39, 2:24:41]: Because when you do a mixed use development. [2:24:42, 2:24:47]: They want the res they want concentrated residential to be able to pay for the commercial portion. [2:24:48, 2:24:50]: They can't build a mixed use development. [2:24:51, 2:24:54]: With only single family homes and actually turn a profit. [2:24:54, 2:24:56]: So there must be some town homes. [2:24:56, 2:24:58]: And some rentals in order to go with it. [2:24:59, 2:25:01]: You just have to make sure that they're zoned right. [2:25:01, 2:25:04]: And that the apartments are at appropriate price point. [2:25:04, 2:25:06]: That people coming in. [2:25:06, 2:25:07]: Uh are brought going to be. [2:25:08, 2:25:08]: Um [2:25:09, 2:25:10]: uh sustaining them [2:25:10, 2:25:14]: And that they're going to not detract from the appearance of your city going forward. [2:25:14, 2:25:16]: But the same weakness. [2:25:16, 2:25:19]: uh in those second and third generation buildings. [2:25:19, 2:25:20]: But actually [2:25:20, 2:25:22]: An opportunity for the city. [2:25:22, 2:25:26]: To move forward with the city wide development authority. [2:25:26, 2:25:29]: And also with uh Mr. Peterson. [2:25:29, 2:25:33]: Let me say that again. The citywide development authority. [2:25:33, 2:25:33]: Thank you. [2:25:35, 2:25:43]: Yeah, thank you. Uh there's an analysis called a toes and we're doing SWAT today, SWOT. There's another analysis called TOES, TOWS. [2:25:43, 2:25:46]: Where you you try to overcome weaknesses. [2:25:46, 2:25:50]: to take advantage of an opportunity. And that's exactly what you were just talking about. How do we [2:25:51, 2:25:52]: How do we overcome a weakness? [2:25:52, 2:25:57]: the dilapidated buildings to take advantage of an opportunity, potential growth. [2:25:57, 2:26:02]: So very, very good comments. Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. Who who would like to go next? [2:26:13, 2:26:14]: Yes, ma'am, Miss Miss Barber. [2:26:16, 2:26:17]: Um [2:26:17, 2:26:18]: So [2:26:19, 2:26:22]: few of the things that I've written down have already mentioned. [2:26:22, 2:26:24]: Partners is important. [2:26:25, 2:26:25]: Um with [2:26:26, 2:26:28]: County and state legislatures. [2:26:29, 2:26:32]: um partnerships with Fortune 500 companies. [2:26:32, 2:26:33]: Also [2:26:33, 2:26:34]: Um [2:26:34, 2:26:37]: Find ways to increase our tourism. [2:26:37, 2:26:38]: Um [2:26:38, 2:26:42]: Annexations is also a great opportunity for us to help grow. [2:26:42, 2:26:43]: Our community. [2:26:44, 2:26:45]: Grow our economic [2:26:45, 2:26:47]: Um based. [2:26:47, 2:26:50]: Um and prioritize public safety. [2:26:50, 2:26:51]: Um [2:26:52, 2:26:54]: Also uh YMCA. [2:26:55, 2:26:57]: That is an opportunity as well. [2:26:58, 2:27:00]: Is there a YMCA currently in in the city? [2:27:01, 2:27:02]: No, there isn't. [2:27:02, 2:27:03]: Okay. [2:27:04, 2:27:04]: Okay. [2:27:05, 2:27:12]: Uh tourism, Fortune. Yes. Okay. Very good. So so partnerships, county and state, Fortune five hundred tourism annexation. [2:27:13, 2:27:14]: And YMCA. [2:27:14, 2:27:15]: Yeah. [2:27:15, 2:27:16]: And very nice. [2:27:16, 2:27:17]: Oh, excellent. [2:27:18, 2:27:21]: Pu oh sorry, public safety. Yes, yes, yes. [2:27:24, 2:27:26]: Yes. Very good. [2:27:26, 2:27:27]: Thank you. [2:27:27, 2:27:28]: Appreciate that. [2:27:31, 2:27:32]: Anybody else? [2:27:32, 2:27:33]: Ms. Gantt. [2:27:33, 2:27:33]: Blount. [2:27:37, 2:27:39]: Well, we have the opportunity to [2:27:40, 2:27:40]: Um [2:27:41, 2:27:45]: gain new small businesses. We have a lot of growth here in Henry County in general. [2:27:46, 2:27:49]: Um and we have the opportunity to [2:27:50, 2:27:53]: Develop better relationships with our small businesses. [2:27:53, 2:27:54]: Um that are in the area. [2:27:55, 2:27:55]: Um [2:27:56, 2:27:56]: are the [2:27:58, 2:27:59]: Business that [2:28:00, 2:28:01]: Owner [2:28:02, 2:28:03]: B. [2:28:04, 2:28:05]: Buildings. [2:28:06, 2:28:08]: Uh the locate [2:28:09, 2:28:23]: the opportunity to work with Henry Canada and brought the first German manufacturing company here in Stockbridge. So we have great opportunities to continue on those type of relationships and build off of those. [2:28:23, 2:28:26]: Um, I I wanna go back to small business. I think that's really [2:28:28, 2:28:30]: important our support. [2:28:30, 2:28:32]: Um as council um [2:28:32, 2:28:34]: Whether it's policing services uh [2:28:35, 2:28:37]: Making sure that we let [2:28:37, 2:28:39]: Hear their concerns. [2:28:39, 2:28:41]: Um, you know [2:28:41, 2:28:44]: They may have some neighbors or different things of that nature that [2:28:45, 2:28:45]: Um [2:28:45, 2:28:47]: They're requesting help with. [2:28:48, 2:28:50]: And we have those opportunities so that our [2:28:51, 2:28:53]: businesses that we do have that [2:28:54, 2:28:55]: Or the backbone of our community. [2:28:56, 2:28:56]: Stay. [2:28:57, 2:28:57]: And then [2:28:57, 2:28:58]: To grow and show that [2:29:00, 2:29:02]: We're open for business for others to come. [2:29:02, 2:29:08]: Um, there's a lot of development, a lot of developers that are interested. We have the opportunity to work with them. [2:29:08, 2:29:10]: And to provide. [2:29:10, 2:29:11]: Affordable housing. [2:29:11, 2:29:12]: Um [2:29:12, 2:29:13]: Mm and [2:29:14, 2:29:16]: Nice housing, right? [2:29:16, 2:29:18]: To accommodate the community in general. [2:29:19, 2:29:19]: Um [2:29:20, 2:29:22]: We had the opportunity. [2:29:22, 2:29:26]: to work again, I agree with our our state legislators. [2:29:27, 2:29:27]: Um [2:29:28, 2:29:28]: Our [2:29:29, 2:29:30]: And Henry County. [2:29:30, 2:29:31]: Which we're doing. [2:29:32, 2:29:34]: In regards to this aquatic center, which is the great news. [2:29:35, 2:29:35]: Um [2:29:35, 2:29:36]: And so [2:29:36, 2:29:40]: I think those are some of the pluses in what we have. And it's all [2:29:41, 2:29:45]: Not all of it, but the majority of it's based off of our location. [2:29:45, 2:29:46]: Um so [2:29:47, 2:29:51]: We have those we have the opportunity. We've had plans before also. [2:29:51, 2:29:55]: Um, there was a one hen raid that we discussed in the past. [2:29:55, 2:30:01]: Where Stockbridge was targeted as a technology hub, a place for white call workers. [2:30:02, 2:30:04]: We still have that opportunity. We had the opportunity be [2:30:04, 2:30:06]: Because we have the hospital. [2:30:06, 2:30:09]: Located here in Henry County, right in our [2:30:09, 2:30:09]: Um [2:30:10, 2:30:12]: In Scott Bridge, in the vicinity here. [2:30:12, 2:30:13]: And so [2:30:13, 2:30:13]: [9014.5, 9016.0]: We th there's some [2:30:16, 2:30:17]: I mean there's just [2:30:17, 2:30:18]: It's unlimited. [2:30:18, 2:30:19]: Basically. [2:30:19, 2:30:20]: Yeah. [2:30:20, 2:30:21]: Absolutely. Thank you. [2:30:22, 2:30:26]: I I I like I like where you're going there. Let's leverage leverage what's here. [2:30:27, 2:30:28]: uh as an opportunity. [2:30:30, 2:30:36]: Very good. Uh not sure if we heard from Councilman Blount. Would you like to share anything or we kinda covered everything? [2:30:42, 2:30:42]: All right. [2:30:42, 2:30:44]: Well, this last section [2:30:45, 2:30:45]: Uh [2:30:45, 2:30:47]: Just m may [2:30:47, 2:30:48]: Make go [2:30:49, 2:30:49]: Yes. [2:30:51, 2:30:52]: Mr Stark. [2:30:52, 2:30:53]: Yes, ma'am. [2:30:53, 2:31:07]: I do have one other one to add to my and that's just improving the quality of life initiatives. I'm a huge um supporter of walking trails, so I'd like to see us use that as an opportunity to improve. [2:31:07, 2:31:08]: The quality of life here. [2:31:08, 2:31:13]: Absolutely. Yes. Completely, completely get that. And I think uh [2:31:14, 2:31:19]: Next time we connect on this, we're gonna have to go a little deeper on that one because um [2:31:19, 2:31:25]: There's so many aspects, things that that we could say quality of life, uh and like trails. [2:31:25, 2:31:29]: But yes, thank you. I'll I'll definitely make a note of that. I appreciate that. [2:31:30, 2:31:39]: Uh Mr Mayor, how about how about threats? What are some threats that are out there looming that if we don't pay attention to them they could really derail our efforts? [2:31:40, 2:32:00]: Well, I'll tell you this way it says threats to the organization, external threats to the organization. And let me explain it this way. First of all, the council and the staff, and I would say the public knows that a lot of times in my Pacific correspondence, I talk about team, teammates, and team players. All right. We're together as a team. Now, you may not always uh get along with your teammates, but you're still a team. [2:32:00, 2:32:11]: team and you still got to work together as a team. You work together as a team, you can be more successful together. It's not about me. It's not about the council. It's about us collectively and about what we can do for the citizens as a collective team. [2:32:11, 2:32:31]: So I'll use this example. In college, I pledge a fraternity, not going to name a fraternity right now. I pledge a fraternity. We're online with my brothers and we're interlocked, interlocked, uh walking together in step, locked step together. And our big brothers and/or other people try to break the line and try to get through and bust us up. Well, here's what we need: external. [2:32:31, 2:32:51]: threats if if we're together as a team and and we we we offer and and support the consensus and move out together. So you would have if we we got a strong bond in this aspect, whether you agree with the the answer or not, or on the descending side, you respect that and you will move out for the do the betterment of the greater good. [2:32:51, 2:33:11]: For the citizens, you're locked in lockstep, all right. So any external threat, such as whether it's a county or whether it's a legislator, or whether it's a bad bad press, whatever we're lockstep. To me, that's what's key to a successful uh team, and and and we and we have to work that way as a team because you are not. [2:33:11, 2:33:25]: not going to be successful as an individual. It's not going to happen. It doesn't work that way. You see, so all successful teams, whether the business or or competitiveness with sports teams, they work together. Everybody has a little piece and a work in conjunction. That's my first comment. [2:33:25, 2:33:34]: Outside outside external type two organization, is that currently the city of Stockbridge citizens do not have a city property tax. [2:33:34, 2:33:54]: Well, the potential threat would be we we will eventually have to have a city's property tax for all the things that we're doing. So what it amounts to is that my phone was acting up. What it amounts to is that uh we need to make sure that as we go down this road, we thoroughly explain to the citizens why there is a need for what reason. [2:33:54, 2:34:14]: Reason why we would have to have a property tax to really thoroughly understand that. To to accomplish certain things, this may have to be done. And this so that that to me is considered a potential threat because they're so used to not having a property tax. Now that and then once you explain it thoroughly, people may very well say, okay, fine, I understand it. Or some people will say, [2:34:14, 2:34:33]: no no i don't I don't want this I don't care for this but but you have to go down that road and explain it and do help the process of of where we're going and the fact that we would need to do this if that is the case. So I look at that as as a potential outside threat education aspect and come to consensus and an agreement and whether or not that needs to be done. [2:34:33, 2:34:35]: That's only two comments I actually had. Thank you. [2:34:35, 2:34:38]: Yeah, that's good. Thank you. Very good. Appreciate that. [2:34:38, 2:34:39]: All right, anybody else? [2:34:40, 2:34:41]: Uh yes, um [2:34:42, 2:34:45]: Historically, there have been a number of [2:34:46, 2:34:50]: uh internal threats and as you mentioned in the description. [2:34:50, 2:34:53]: Uh there are some threats that [2:34:53, 2:34:55]: That's out of your control. [2:34:55, 2:34:57]: Uh, some that you do control. [2:34:58, 2:35:01]: But historically, one of the problems with this municipality is that [2:35:02, 2:35:05]: We have had a turnover in [2:35:05, 2:35:06]: Um [2:35:06, 2:35:10]: Elected officials and staffing. [2:35:10, 2:35:12]: Thereby not [2:35:12, 2:35:17]: The continuity of of um projects and programs. [2:35:18, 2:35:21]: Seem to always take a a different shift. [2:35:21, 2:35:24]: So I don't know if that's documentation. [2:35:24, 2:35:31]: Whereas if if a new staff or a new elected body comes in, they continue on with the goals and objective. [2:35:31, 2:35:33]: That was sort of laid before [2:35:34, 2:35:36]: Um historically that has been a problem. [2:35:37, 2:35:38]: Um [2:35:39, 2:35:48]: And I'm sort of glad that we're sort of going through this process today. Uh, I know that uh strategic planning. [2:35:48, 2:35:50]: Uh, it's very important. [2:35:51, 2:35:55]: But you know, historically, you know, we have not really. [2:35:56, 2:36:06]: uh got that deep into it. And I I I I I commend Mr. Knight a lot and I encourage him a lot. You know, I'm I'm sort of a cheerleader to him. [2:36:06, 2:36:09]: Uh, to let him know that with the staff. [2:36:10, 2:36:26]: that he is creating I look forward uh for for great things and and I think that we're only as good as you know um especially elected body we're only as good as the staff that actually comes in [2:36:26, 2:36:28]: to carry out. [2:36:28, 2:36:33]: the legislation that we pass. And so I'm sort of excited about that. [2:36:33, 2:36:34]: Um [2:36:35, 2:36:42]: And I'm just gonna sort of mention a couple of things I just sort of jotted down, you know, again, threats that we control and and threats that we don't. [2:36:43, 2:36:49]: But we have a problem here in Henry County as well as other cities, I believe, in transportation gridlock. [2:36:50, 2:36:51]: Um [2:36:51, 2:36:58]: You know, we just had a public hearing about a development that that that's potentially was coming in and [2:36:58, 2:37:01]: Two things that the citizen was concerned about. [2:37:01, 2:37:04]: And that was the overcrowding of schools. [2:37:04, 2:37:06]: And traffic gridlock. [2:37:06, 2:37:14]: Now those are heavy because we know we have to sort of interface with our federal government and then our state government. [2:37:14, 2:37:16]: But I'm just saying sometimes [2:37:16, 2:37:25]: Um, you know, these present uh a certain kind of threat as far as smart growth uh for cities. And I think all cities. [2:37:26, 2:37:35]: Um and we just have to sort of do the best we can, but I think we need to focus a little bit more on federal and state when it comes to. [2:37:35, 2:37:40]: uh overcrowding of schools and and and and gridlock traffic gridlock. [2:37:41, 2:37:41]: Thank you. [2:37:42, 2:37:43]: Yes, very good. [2:37:43, 2:37:44]: Thank you very much. [2:37:45, 2:37:46]: Appreciate that. [2:37:46, 2:37:47]: Mm. [2:37:47, 2:37:48]: I'll go next. [2:37:49, 2:37:49]: Іно. [2:37:50, 2:37:52]: It is this is I think my for [2:37:53, 2:37:54]: Hello? [2:37:55, 2:38:03]: Okay, this is my f this is uh where I come from on this particular uh subject is that uh you know uh [2:38:03, 2:38:04]: The threat. [2:38:05, 2:38:09]: I i is i is is is us in terms of [2:38:10, 2:38:14]: There's nothing to fear but fear itself. [2:38:17, 2:38:19]: Висорід обо микені містей. [2:38:19, 2:38:23]: That we miss out on numerous opportunities. [2:38:24, 2:38:26]: In the past twelve months. [2:38:27, 2:38:29]: This cancel took some chances. [2:38:29, 2:38:32]: We moved out on sound financial data. [2:38:33, 2:38:34]: We [2:38:34, 2:38:36]: In the past twelve months. [2:38:37, 2:38:39]: Гавмей хисторик прогрес. [2:38:40, 2:38:44]: Twenty four months. The amphitheater, the culture art center is coming. [2:38:44, 2:38:47]: We work with the county, improve that relationship and [2:38:48, 2:38:50]: The aquatic center is coming to Johako Road. [2:38:51, 2:38:53]: We're moving forward with a police department. [2:38:54, 2:38:57]: We can walk and chew gum at the same time. [2:38:58, 2:39:02]: If you act and you lead with courage, the people will follow you. [2:39:03, 2:39:04]: Okay, they will. [2:39:04, 2:39:06]: And they will support you. [2:39:06, 2:39:09]: I don't fear a property tax. I don't. [2:39:10, 2:39:14]: My taxes go up in Henry County every year because we're in a growing community. [2:39:14, 2:39:16]: So in essence what will happen is [2:39:16, 2:39:18]: If we did have to have a property tax. [2:39:19, 2:39:21]: Might be a hundred dollars. [2:39:21, 2:39:24]: Might be seventy five dollars, might be a hundred and twenty five dollars. [2:39:24, 2:39:44]: The bill goes up more than that every year now. So it would be the same as a tax increase in terms of Henry County having that tax assessment every single year. It was another bill that you have to pay and understanding there are some restrictions. And maybe even at some point we might freeze the senior citizens' tax. [2:39:44, 2:39:45]: [9585.2, 9591.0]: taxes at the current level. So they are not priced out of their home and they're not impacted by it. [2:39:51, 2:39:51]: So [2:39:52, 2:39:54]: In essence what we would be doing [2:39:54, 2:39:57]: And moving forward with the things that we're doing now is [2:39:58, 2:40:02]: I'm afraid that we're paralyzed by fi we've been paralyzed in by fear. [2:40:02, 2:40:06]: in the past and I don't want us to return to that. [2:40:06, 2:40:07]: There were many years. [2:40:08, 2:40:13]: Almost a decade where nothing no m major capital projects. [2:40:13, 2:40:14]: Were completed in the city. [2:40:15, 2:40:18]: But we finally shed the fear. [2:40:19, 2:40:20]: And once we shed the fear. [2:40:21, 2:40:23]: Historic accomplishments were made. [2:40:24, 2:40:26]: You cannot let fear rule the day. [2:40:27, 2:40:28]: Факт. [2:40:28, 2:40:29]: Must rule the day. [2:40:30, 2:40:30]: The biggest [2:40:31, 2:40:32]: The biggest threat to me. [2:40:32, 2:40:33]: Is the fear? [2:40:34, 2:40:36]: And fear itself. [2:40:39, 2:40:40]: Thank you. [2:40:40, 2:40:45]: Thank you very much. Uh I believe Councilwoman Gantt, were you gonna say something there earlier? [2:40:47, 2:40:52]: Um well, one of the biggest threats we've had in the past, and g you know [2:40:52, 2:40:54]: hoping that it won't be in the future. [2:40:56, 2:40:57]: Is the [2:40:58, 2:41:02]: trying to remove part of our city or DNX. [2:41:03, 2:41:16]: Um, as you know and recall. Um and to me, you know, we must continue to push um our state legislators to make sure that that doesn't ever have happen again. So to me, that's still a threat. [2:41:16, 2:41:17]: To our city. [2:41:19, 2:41:20]: Um yeah. [2:41:20, 2:41:23]: Yeah, thank you. That's a good one. Yes, go go ahead. [2:41:27, 2:41:34]: Yeah, I was gonna ask about that earlier in terms of a weakness. And we we again we don't have time to get into this today, uh, but [2:41:35, 2:41:45]: Uh I would I would like for us to explore that a bit more sometimes in terms of unity uh and being um together as one entity, one city. [2:41:45, 2:41:51]: Um, and that would fall under weakness perhaps. Uh, but we can talk about that another day. [2:41:51, 2:41:55]: Uh for time's sake. Uh but thank you, Miss Skant. I appreciate that. [2:41:56, 2:41:57]: comment about D um the um [2:41:58, 2:41:59]: uh annexation part. [2:42:00, 2:42:02]: Anyone else, Miss Barber, uh Mr. Blount? [2:42:07, 2:42:17]: Um no, the deannexation was actually one of the things that I had on my list. Um the other one is all of the unforeseen um as a result of this pandemic. [2:42:18, 2:42:18]: Um [2:42:20, 2:42:20]: That's all. [2:42:21, 2:42:22]: Yes. [2:42:23, 2:42:24]: Yeah. [2:42:26, 2:42:30]: Uh Mabel, anything from you, sir? [2:42:37, 2:42:38]: Okay. [2:42:38, 2:42:39]: All right. [2:42:39, 2:42:41]: Well uh that [2:42:41, 2:42:48]: Pretty much wraps up what we were trying to do today. We've we've been on about an hour and two minutes, I see. So the timing worked out pretty well. [2:42:49, 2:42:53]: Um the the today what we did was sort of the easy part. [2:42:53, 2:42:56]: as you as you may imagine um [2:42:56, 2:43:06]: Uh we can't solve all the weaknesses, we can't we can't leverage all the opportunities, we can't overcome all the threats. It's just physically impossible. We don't have enough money time or people. [2:43:07, 2:43:08]: But we can do some of it. [2:43:08, 2:43:09]: We can do some of it. [2:43:10, 2:43:15]: And what that means is we have to make choices, right? We have to decide. [2:43:15, 2:43:24]: What are our top three or four priorities on the opportunities? What are our top three or four weaknesses that we want to attack viciously and overcome those weaknesses? [2:43:24, 2:43:29]: What are the top two or three w threats that we want to actively push against? [2:43:29, 2:43:32]: And those are decisions that require compromise. [2:43:33, 2:43:36]: That require discussion, honest debate. [2:43:37, 2:43:38]: Healthy conflict. [2:43:38, 2:43:39]: Where we debate things. [2:43:40, 2:43:42]: But having this list [2:43:42, 2:43:45]: And creating a plan based on a list is not a strategic plan. [2:43:47, 2:43:49]: The strategic part comes in saying, Okay. [2:43:49, 2:43:53]: Which has the highest priority and what benefit will it give the city? [2:43:53, 2:44:00]: How can we leverage these things strategically to push the city further down the road? [2:44:00, 2:44:01]: Mm. [2:44:02, 2:44:02]: Oh. [2:44:03, 2:44:05]: We need to do next [2:44:05, 2:44:08]: And this will be maybe at a work session, however you would like to do it. [2:44:09, 2:44:15]: is begin to prioritize some of these topics you all have discussed today. Great topics, great participation. Thank you for [2:44:16, 2:44:19]: For your insights. Thank you for uh being honest. [2:44:19, 2:44:21]: And uh this is the first step. [2:44:21, 2:44:24]: uh is is putting it all out there on a piece of paper. [2:44:25, 2:44:30]: And the next step is to begin to narrow it down and prioritize. And that's gonna involve [2:44:30, 2:44:37]: you know, compromise and discussion and some good healthy debate. And I look forward to having that with you all in the next few months. [2:44:41, 2:44:46]: Okay, thank you, Mr. Stark. I appreciate that. Uh Mr. Knighton, do you have any other uh remarks or [2:44:47, 2:45:04]: I don't uh I don't at this point uh uh appreciate Mr. uh Stark uh facilitating this session. Obviously uh when we go through uh SWAT analysis, uh there are things that um are mentioned that uh hopefully with uh within the total context of everything is meant to benefit us. [2:45:04, 2:45:08]: uh to be able to begin uh some priority in identifying those things. [2:45:08, 2:45:13]: That our strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats so that we can readily identify them. [2:45:14, 2:45:20]: uh determine uh what they are in terms of uh uh priority and significance. [2:45:21, 2:45:25]: And then been begin to work off of that toward the ultimate goal of completing [2:45:26, 2:45:28]: A strategic plan for the city that will provide [2:45:28, 2:45:38]: uh that uh that uh guideline for us from which we can we can operate uh in the future. So I appreciate that and appreciate uh councils [2:45:39, 2:45:44]: input and uh willing uh willingness to uh participate uh in this effort. [2:45:45, 2:46:05]: So on that note, I guess the next thing is actually lunch. And uh so we're a little early, we're still a little bit ahead of time. So uh if that's the case, I would imagine we'll go to lunch and get back here at roughly at one o'clock for the Unified Development Code update uh with uh collaborative firm. Um so if that sounds [2:46:05, 2:46:09]: Sounds good. If the council thinks that's a good idea, let's uh [2:46:10, 2:46:13]: Let's go to lunch and get back here about an hour from now and uh [2:46:14, 2:46:16]: And then uh we'll continue on the rest of our day. [2:46:16, 2:46:21]: Miss Clerk, Vanessa Holiday, ma'am. Any any last minute guides before we step out for lunch here? [2:46:22, 2:46:28]: If you would if you would like to leave the meeting, you can otherwise please um mute and turn off your video. [2:46:29, 2:46:33]: Yeah, council, any other questions before we go to lunch? Any other concerns? [2:46:34, 2:46:54]: if not i see none if not i i just want to make sure i i think we already confirmed it so uh is everything in uh in order for us to for this to arrive shortly we get with that yes yes counselor thank you yeah thank you thank you so we'll go right folks i'll see you a little before one o'clock for the next briefing all right [2:46:54, 2:46:55]: Great. Thank you. [2:46:57, 2:46:58]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Knight. [2:46:58, 2:47:00]: You're welcome, sir. Take care. Yes, sir. [2:47:05, 2:47:07]: Good afternoon, Casey. How you doing? [2:47:08, 2:47:12]: Good afternoon, sir. How are you today? Happy Saint Patrick's Day. [2:47:13, 2:47:20]: That's right. It is, isn't it? Fantastic. Yeah. Happy St. Patrick's Day to you too as well. Thank you. I think you have your green on, right? Actually, I actually do have green on. [2:47:21, 2:47:28]: But I have to admit I'm not Irish though. Oh, neither am I, but it's still fun to have a little spirit, right? Right, right. [2:47:30, 2:47:31]: Mm. [2:47:35, 2:47:37]: We'll get started just a little bit. [2:47:38, 2:47:39]: No problem.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority Meeting date: 2021-03-16 source: 2021-03-16_Downtown_Development_Authority_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:00]: Okay. [0:00:01, 0:00:14]: Hello, welcome everybody. We are in the March meeting for the regular uh downtown development authority for Stockbridge. And uh we wanna we'll go ahead and start off with a uh roll call. Uh [0:00:14, 0:00:16]: Mr. Swiver, if you want to call roll, please. [0:00:16, 0:00:17]: Okay. [0:00:17, 0:00:18]: Uh [0:00:18, 0:00:19]: Art Christian? [0:00:19, 0:00:20]: Present. [0:00:22, 0:00:23]: Roger Custon. [0:00:23, 0:00:24]: Present. [0:00:25, 0:00:26]: І ще ке. [0:00:27, 0:00:27]: Present. [0:00:29, 0:00:30]: To me, coaquine. [0:00:32, 0:00:33]: The microquin. [0:00:34, 0:00:35]: Barber Richardson. [0:00:40, 0:00:40]: Thanks for [0:00:41, 0:00:42]: Uh Maxwell Sears. [0:00:46, 0:00:48]: And Bob Swigert presence. [0:00:49, 0:00:50]: One, two, three. [0:00:50, 0:00:51]: We have four. [0:00:52, 0:00:54]: Uh for present. [0:00:55, 0:01:15]: Okay, so four out of seven members, so that does constitute a quorum. So I think we can go ahead and uh start the meeting. And also for the record, um we have also with us the uh participants, um Lisa Fareed with the Main Street Advisory Board, and uh Mr. Alan Peterson, who is the economic developer. [0:01:15, 0:01:18]: public director and Vanessa Holiday. [0:01:18, 0:01:20]: Сити клеркої сервінка [0:01:21, 0:01:26]: our recording uh secretary. So thank you everybody. Thanks for being here. [0:01:26, 0:01:46]: Um we'll go ahead and start off with the top of the agenda, which is to approve today's uh meeting agenda. Uh Bob sent these first to the group on March sixth email, but uh then it was uh sent again without any further changes on March 11th. So I'll uh take a motion to approve today's meeting agenda. [0:01:49, 0:01:51]: I I move that we approve the uh the the meeting agenda. [0:01:52, 0:01:52]: Right? [0:01:54, 0:01:54]: A second. [0:01:57, 0:01:57]: Thank you, Art. [0:02:00, 0:02:04]: And uh we'll go ahead and call uh any discussion on today's agenda. [0:02:08, 0:02:09]: Yeah. [0:02:10, 0:02:20]: And uh Samiqua and Barber, I see you just joined. We just did roll call but right now we're we're approving today's meeting agenda. Um did you have any um comments? [0:02:22, 0:02:22]: I'm sorry. [0:02:23, 0:02:26]: Oh, I I will I will add them as as being present. I'm sorry. [0:02:27, 0:02:28]: Okay, great, thank you. [0:02:29, 0:02:29]: Um [0:02:31, 0:02:32]: Any discussion about the agenda? [0:02:35, 0:02:44]: Not seeing any, so we will uh we'll do a hand vote if that's all right with everyone. So everyone in favor of approving today's agenda, show your hand. [0:02:47, 0:02:47]: All right. [0:02:51, 0:02:52]: Any opposed? [0:02:54, 0:02:56]: All right, so it looks like that's unanimous. [0:02:57, 0:03:12]: Thank you. And uh we'll move on to the next item, which is the approval of the February meeting minutes, February 16th. Uh Bob sent those on February twenty-third. Vanessa, thank you for taking the minutes for us. Um any um [0:03:13, 0:03:15]: Any discussion about the meeting minutes from February? [0:03:19, 0:03:28]: I'm not seeing or hearing any. Uh so we'll move on to a vote and same uh same drill. So all the uh well actually I'll take a motion to approve. [0:03:29, 0:03:31]: The meeting minutes for February sixteenth. [0:03:33, 0:03:36]: Uh s I I I move that we approve the meeting minutes for February sixteenth. [0:03:37, 0:03:38]: Second. [0:03:39, 0:03:40]: Well, what? [0:03:41, 0:03:41]: Yeah. [0:03:42, 0:03:44]: That was Council McGantt who seconded. [0:03:44, 0:03:45]: Uh no. [0:03:46, 0:03:47]: Barber, which [0:03:47, 0:03:48]: Oh, thank you, Barber. [0:03:51, 0:03:52]: All right. [0:03:53, 0:03:55]: Any further discussion? [0:03:56, 0:04:02]: All right, by show of hands, uh we'll raise our hands if you approve February's meeting minutes. Um [0:04:05, 0:04:08]: All right, I think that's unanimous. Thank you everybody. [0:04:09, 0:04:12]: All right, we'll proceed with the meeting. So um [0:04:13, 0:04:21]: So the first on the top of the agenda, I'm gonna go ahead and share my screen. I've I've shared with you all some information on the um [0:04:23, 0:04:33]: Uh directors and officers insurance. Um let me bring up the uh I I have it on a summary slide to show with you. Uh bear with me just a moment, let me get that ready. [0:04:33, 0:04:34]: Yeah. [0:04:35, 0:04:36]: I think it helps. [0:04:37, 0:04:38]: Uh score. [0:04:42, 0:04:44]: Okay, this one. [0:04:47, 0:04:48]: Sorry, I don't have it ready. [0:04:50, 0:04:50]: Here it is. [0:05:03, 0:05:03]: Right. [0:05:05, 0:05:14]: So if someone can confirm you can see the uh slide. So this was the agenda, but this is really the slide I want to get to, which is the directors and officers insurance. [0:05:14, 0:05:25]: So there's a um just to clarify where we are, this is an annual renewal for our directors and officers insurance. The current premium is uh about fifteen hundred dollars. [0:05:25, 0:05:32]: We were presented with some options. Um, I looked through it, I've shared some information with the the board. [0:05:33, 0:05:36]: I also got some feedback from attorney McCrae. [0:05:37, 0:05:41]: Um and I'm trying to make this a little bit bigger. I can see someone you're trying to [0:05:41, 0:05:42]: have trouble saying it. Um [0:05:45, 0:05:57]: Employment practices, even though in an earlier message I said that you know we should consider adding this, it's really just based on discrimination or sexual harassment uh for employment practices. We we don't [0:05:58, 0:06:10]: Of course, we're volunteer board and we don't hire anyone, although those events could occur either through ourselves or vendors that we represent. So it's it's worth considering. [0:06:10, 0:06:26]: The prices I had provided I will make clear that they are estimates based on a previous quote that was given to the DDA a few years ago. So these are these may go up or down, these may change once we get an actual quote. [0:06:26, 0:06:30]: Uh so that's on the table for consideration, this one item. [0:06:31, 0:06:43]: Fiduciary sounds like it's more necessary than it is, but it's really specific to employment benefit plans, which we do not administer in any way. So my recommendation is to decline that coverage. [0:06:44, 0:06:46]: Um cyber [0:06:46, 0:06:55]: This one, Mr. McCray did suggest that we consider the previous estimate was for eight hundred and fifty nine dollars. I'm not sure what the cost would be now. [0:06:56, 0:07:03]: And then lastly, there's the option of crime coverage, which covers things like theft, embezzlement, and those types of things. [0:07:04, 0:07:15]: Um I am interested in that because you know of course we do have a fund balance that the DDA manages. So, you know, there is often you know, where there's assets, there's opportunity for those assets to be misused. [0:07:15, 0:07:16]: And um [0:07:17, 0:07:23]: That was previously quoted at eight hundred and fifty nine dollars. These are all annual uh prices, by the way. [0:07:24, 0:07:36]: And uh but it was for a lower amount. And I'm not quite sure I couldn't tell from the information that I was given whether that amount was uh the coverage was at the ten thousand dollar level or the twenty five thousand dollar level. [0:07:36, 0:07:54]: Um we roughly manage assets around the hundred thousand dollars as far as our bank accounts and and for transactions it could represent an even higher amount. So um I'm suggesting maybe we at least get an estimate at the hundred thousand dollar amount and consider the uh you know the crime coverage. [0:07:55, 0:08:01]: So let me pause here for any thoughts or discussion on the um on the insurance renewal. [0:08:06, 0:08:10]: Any questions, any thoughts on any of those items, which way we go? [0:08:11, 0:08:13]: Yes, these options that we have here. [0:08:14, 0:08:25]: Are these this would be the new premium, for example, if we went with the three suggestions here, those three costs would be the total cost of the new premium or in addition to the current premium rate? [0:08:26, 0:08:32]: I'm interpreting this these are add-ons that these these are add on coverages that we do not currently have. [0:08:32, 0:08:33]: Um [0:08:33, 0:08:38]: I'm assuming that it would be in addition to the fifteen hundred that we're already paying. [0:08:45, 0:08:47]: Other thoughts or questions? [0:08:48, 0:09:02]: Yeah, I I'm I I guess I I'm just not sure and I it's of course it's the smallest figure there, but I'm just not sure that we would need since we don't have employees, that we would need discrimination or sexual harassment uh liability. I mean [0:09:03, 0:09:06]: I I I could I I could argue that both ways, but [0:09:06, 0:09:07]: Right. [0:09:09, 0:09:20]: Yep, I I agree as as well. I I I'm I'm on the fence on that one. At first I dismissed it and then later on I thought, Okay, well there's there's there's potential exposure there, but it's it's probably [0:09:21, 0:09:26]: Of the ones on here, I mean, you know, y you know, it's probably a low risk. [0:09:26, 0:09:37]: You could argue that with some of these, but all of them, but uh, you know, it's just a matter of it's just like that's how insurance works. You really don't know the risk or exposure. But you know, we again we don't we don't [0:09:38, 0:09:38]: Mm-hmm. [0:09:39, 0:09:41]: It's a volunteer board, we don't interact. [0:09:41, 0:09:52]: individually with each other all that much. I mean, uh so it's not like a workplace where you're eight hours every day, five days a week, where there's more opportunity for those things to occur. [0:09:54, 0:09:56]: Is it possible for any [0:09:56, 0:09:58]: Board member to [0:10:00, 0:10:01]: I guess um [0:10:02, 0:10:06]: That someone could claim discrimination or sexual harassment by a board member. [0:10:06, 0:10:08]: Acting on behalf of the board out. [0:10:08, 0:10:09]: And out in the public. [0:10:11, 0:10:19]: I suppose that's possible. You mean just you m you mean a in as far as in our duties of carrying out the duties of the D DA [0:10:20, 0:10:31]: Could there be a claim of harassment or discrimination in and in that in that effort and in in our in service to the D I suppose I suppose that's true and I think that's what this would cover. [0:10:33, 0:10:39]: Um, did attorney McRae give any more guidance regarding his suggestion for the cyber coverage? [0:10:41, 0:10:42]: What's the exposure there? [0:10:42, 0:10:44]: Yeah, I can I [0:10:45, 0:10:52]: Not sure if I sent that email or not. It came a little bit later after I sent this to the board. So I can send you his comments, but it he didn't really give [0:10:53, 0:10:55]: A lot more clarity other than he's [0:10:55, 0:10:57]: generally concerned about [0:10:57, 0:10:58]: Cyber [0:10:59, 0:11:00]: Um but that's [0:11:00, 0:11:01]: You know, I mean [0:11:02, 0:11:09]: You know, I m my thoughts on that as well, you know, we if we what's the worst case scenario here? We get hacked. [0:11:10, 0:11:15]: All of our records are my my n my initial inclination to that was to decline it because [0:11:15, 0:11:35]: The large majority of the work that we do is already public record. You know, our our meetings are open to the public, our records are open to the public, with little exception, you know, we do have closed meetings when under certain, you know, rules under the Open Records Act. But outside of that there I I didn't see the high probability of exposure now, you know. [0:11:35, 0:11:37]: Maybe we could get hacked and [0:11:38, 0:11:41]: I I don't know what the scenarios are where that would [0:11:42, 0:11:45]: di you know uh service so [0:11:46, 0:11:46]: Oh [0:11:47, 0:11:50]: Good good observation there because I I kinda had the same thinking. [0:11:52, 0:11:54]: And then the crime coverage that [0:11:55, 0:12:03]: The suggestion is to at least get covered up to the amount of assets that we normally have custody over, i.e., the bank account. [0:12:05, 0:12:05]: Is that [0:12:06, 0:12:08]: Kinda where we're going there. [0:12:08, 0:12:17]: Yeah, and that was my thinking and pardon me, I have an error here. This is this was previously quoted at two hundred, not eight fifty nine. That was a copy paste error. [0:12:17, 0:12:24]: So but it it's likely gonna be higher if we cover it at a hundred thousand or you know, at a higher amount. [0:12:26, 0:12:33]: Any thoughts on that hundred thousand dollar whether that you know, if we were to consider crime coverage, whether that's [0:12:33, 0:12:35]: Enough or too much? [0:12:41, 0:12:42]: I probably [0:12:42, 0:12:44]: I probably should have done this earlier, but I I'm [0:12:44, 0:12:46]: I probably want to. [0:12:47, 0:12:51]: be more clear about exactly what that coverage entails. Um [0:12:52, 0:12:56]: So I'll I'll go back and read that information, but um [0:12:57, 0:12:59]: I'm not just on the surface, I'm not really sure. [0:13:00, 0:13:01]: What we're covering. [0:13:02, 0:13:03]: Right, right. [0:13:03, 0:13:15]: There is some information on what I did send you previously. I think I sent you our current policy and then some information on the application for a renewal, which includes some, you know, basic amounts and stuff. [0:13:16, 0:13:36]: As far as you know, even if we ask for a quote on the renewal for all of these, we don't have to take them all. Right. So I I would kind of recommend we um go ahead and ask for um you know a a quote. It'd be good to have that information. There's no reason not to. And [0:13:36, 0:13:43]: Uh but in order to do that, Barber, we're gonna need the you know, the balance sheet and income statement. And I know you're just kind of [0:13:44, 0:14:04]: Getting getting uh for for twenty twenty'cause that's part of what they ask for when we submit our request for renewal. So I'll need to work with you on that and then we can submit the r application for renewal. And then I'll I'll I'll send this information via email once we get the quotes from the insurance company, but we have to make a decision by April twenty third. So we're gonna have to [0:14:03, 0:14:05]: But um [0:14:06, 0:14:26]: Um I I'm Yeah. Probably gonna have to do this via email as far as um you know deciding what if we change our coverage or just renew. I I don't I don't know that this will require a board decision per se as far as in a public meeting because we're already covered. It's just a matter of renewing it and which you know whether we add or remove it. [0:14:26, 0:14:33]: of any particular elements. Um uh so I guess I'll I'll note two things, which is [0:14:33, 0:14:36]: to um send the information that mister McCrae [0:14:37, 0:14:40]: had uh his comments and feedback'cause I don't think I shared that with you all. [0:14:41, 0:14:44]: And um of course supply for the renewal. [0:14:45, 0:14:51]: And then I'll find out from Mr. McCrae if we have to have a meeting in order to make a decision on whether we change the premium or not. [0:14:56, 0:14:58]: Okay, any other questions or discussion? [0:15:01, 0:15:02]: All right. [0:15:02, 0:15:07]: We'll move on to the next item, which is the uh joint planning for the Main Street board. [0:15:08, 0:15:08]: Um [0:15:09, 0:15:23]: I sent out a survey, uh let me bring this back down, uh, just to see we're coordinating between the two groups, the Main Street Advisory Board and the DDA, and of course we all have other uh responsibilities, so it's all it's our hard to nail down a date. [0:15:23, 0:15:26]: Um so we did get twelve responses on the survey. [0:15:27, 0:15:33]: Um there's no one date that is open for everyone. So I'll I'll say that uh up top. [0:15:33, 0:15:37]: But it does appear and I know it's hard to see, but th these the this is the uh [0:15:37, 0:15:57]: Uh May 15th date, the May 22nd, and June 12th. The green lines mean that the people who responded are available. The blue lines indicate the people who responded are not available. So those are the three dates where there's the most availability and the least conflict. [0:15:57, 0:16:13]: Um I'll share this with uh Kira and Lisa and then we'll get we'll you know we'll find out from Main Street um you know what date's gonna fit the best. We're kind of looking at an all-day Saturday. It would be a um facilitated [0:16:13, 0:16:33]: uh meeting uh where we would come prepared with the ideas that we would have for um priorities for collectively between uh Main Street and the DDA and how we can support each other to meet our you know respective goals um and you know revitalize the downtown of course. [0:16:33, 0:16:45]: Any thoughts on the dates? Just I just wanted to share where we were on the responses we'd received so far and any questions about what this meeting is intended to be for. [0:16:46, 0:16:49]: Or any thoughts about the availability of dates, I'll just open it up for discussion. [0:16:51, 0:16:54]: I'm open to any of the dates, any of the Saturdays, so [0:16:54, 0:16:55]: Great. [0:16:55, 0:16:57]: Thank you, Art. So am I. [0:16:58, 0:16:58]: Thank you. [0:17:00, 0:17:04]: I'm good for everything but May fifteenth that's uh Mother's Day weekend, so I'll be out of time. [0:17:06, 0:17:06]: Do you know uh [0:17:08, 0:17:14]: All right, yeah, I do s is that may I thought we I thought we stayed away from that from other state. I could be wrong. Let me check. [0:17:15, 0:17:21]: It looks close. Maybe it's not. If it's not then I'm It's May ninth. Yeah. We purposely stayed away from Mother's Day. [0:17:21, 0:17:22]: And I'm good for all of them. [0:17:22, 0:17:23]: All right, great. Thank you. [0:17:25, 0:17:26]: All right, any other discussion? [0:17:28, 0:17:36]: All right, then I think that moves us to the next item on the agenda, which is uh treasure updates. I'll leave it there. I'll stop sharing my screen. [0:17:37, 0:17:38]: Oh okay. [0:17:39, 0:17:45]: So far it's still pretty um nothing new with the exception of um well let me just start with the account balances. [0:17:46, 0:17:47]: А форки. [0:17:48, 0:17:55]: We have um for the facade grant ninety-four thousand nine hundred seventy-two dollars and five cents. [0:17:55, 0:18:02]: We did go ahead and transfer the fifty thousand dollars out of operating into the facade grant account uh last month. [0:18:03, 0:18:10]: Did that left the operating account with forty-seven thousand four hundred four dollars and sixty-one cents. [0:18:10, 0:18:12]: So between the two accounts, the total [0:18:13, 0:18:20]: Checking balances that we have here is$142,376 and 66 cents. [0:18:20, 0:18:30]: In the month of February, there were no transactions other than the transfer of the$50,000 facade grant from operating to that particular account. [0:18:30, 0:18:35]: Um, we had total liabilities that were brought over from 2020. [0:18:36, 0:18:41]: That totaled one thousand eight hundred twenty six dollars and two cents. [0:18:42, 0:18:46]: Of that balance, 830 belonged to TS, well was due to TSW. [0:18:47, 0:18:57]: for work they done for the master plan. And then the remaining amount was due to the city of Stockbridge for Georgia Downtown Conference, DDA training. [0:18:57, 0:19:07]: And reimbursements for some victory trophies invoices for um name badges and and various supplies like that that they ordered on our behalf. [0:19:08, 0:19:17]: Uh as of today, you won't see it reflected here, but as of today, all of those outstanding invoices have been paid, but you'll see that on next month's financial reports. [0:19:18, 0:19:18]: So [0:19:19, 0:19:26]: I will entertain anyone's questions regarding that, but so far very minimal activity. [0:19:28, 0:19:30]: Nothing exciting right now. [0:19:32, 0:19:37]: Miss Richardson? Yes. What what was the total uh balance that we have now? [0:19:37, 0:19:45]: Infund balance for both accounts or per account? Yes. Both account. Well, I think it was ninety thousand for the [0:19:45, 0:19:47]: What was it? Ninety two for the [0:19:48, 0:19:49]: Okay, there we go. [0:19:50, 0:19:54]: I apologize. Barber sent this to me prior to the meeting and I forgot I had it. [0:19:55, 0:19:55]: That's okay. [0:19:56, 0:20:00]: You got it? Okay. Okay. So the total what's the total? [0:20:01, 0:20:05]: in our account total I'm sorry, the total balance remaining. [0:20:06, 0:20:11]: One hundred forty two thousand three hundred seventy six dollars and sixty six cents. [0:20:11, 0:20:13]: That's the total between both bank accounts. [0:20:14, 0:20:14]: Thank you. [0:20:15, 0:20:16]: Yes, no problem. [0:20:21, 0:20:22]: Um [0:20:23, 0:20:28]: Yeah, as far as I know, the only outstanding liability, well, we it's not a liability yet, but uh [0:20:28, 0:20:31]: Obviously the insurance premium, the insurance renewal. [0:20:31, 0:20:36]: It's the only other anticipated expense that um that I'm aware of at this time, but [0:20:37, 0:20:37]: Um [0:20:38, 0:20:39]: Other than that. [0:20:39, 0:20:40]: Nothing. [0:20:42, 0:21:00]: I'll I'll mention to that point, um, you know, we have been utilizing the services of uh attorney McCrae, and while a larger portion of that is related to the um transaction, the Silvain transaction, there are some portions where he did services for the DDA itself. So I expect that there'll be some cost. [0:21:00, 0:21:02]: that we'll be encouraging with that. [0:21:03, 0:21:06]: Okay. Do we know when we'll when he'll start billing us? [0:21:07, 0:21:10]: I do not. I will try to find that out as well. [0:21:11, 0:21:12]: Mr. Custon. [0:21:12, 0:21:20]: Yes. Do you know the amount of the bill from the D D uh that he has built to the city of Stockbridge? [0:21:20, 0:21:31]: I do not have that amount yet. And but the you know, it's not done yet as far as, you know, we haven't closed yet. So his serv his services have not c been concluded for that particular transaction. [0:21:32, 0:21:33]: But he builds it. [0:21:33, 0:21:35]: What is it, four hundred an hour? [0:21:37, 0:21:45]: Um I'll have to find that. Um I that's a prox that's it's in the ballpark of what I recall, yes. [0:21:46, 0:21:46]: Okay. [0:21:48, 0:21:49]: Thank you. [0:21:51, 0:21:58]: I just had a question about the victory trophies. These are something the city's ordered, uh, on our behalf. Victory for [0:21:59, 0:22:03]: Yeah, for like our name tags and um [0:22:05, 0:22:15]: What a Vanessa, can you help me out here with in terms of I don't have the invoice directly in front of me with with the various but it's it's all the things that we get like our name badges and [0:22:15, 0:22:22]: That's all. That's the only thing from them. Okay. So so I guess the victory trophy is a good thing. That's the only thing that it's ordered from them. [0:22:24, 0:22:30]: Yeah. Yeah. I think I think there were some recognition plaques for the phone board members. [0:22:30, 0:22:39]: At the end of the year. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, the city pays good just goes ahead and and takes care of that bill and then we reimburse the city for our portion. [0:22:39, 0:22:42]: Okay. All right. Great. Thank you. [0:22:44, 0:22:45]: Mm-hmm. [0:22:46, 0:22:48]: Any other questions for Barber? [0:22:52, 0:23:07]: Not seeing or hearing any, so uh we will move on to the next agenda item. Bar I first of all let me just say I cannot thank you enough, Barber, for the service you've given to the DEA. You've done a tremendous amount of work just getting the account set up. [0:23:08, 0:23:28]: with uh the zero accounting and and and with the online banking and getting us caught up with all the invoices and payments that were uh pending from the previous um treasurer. So thank you for your work. I really appreciate your service. And with that we'll move on to um Secretary Updates. Mr. [0:23:28, 0:23:29]: Mr. Schweiber, do you have anything for the group? [0:23:30, 0:23:35]: Uh no, I I've I've I I've archived the the [0:23:35, 0:23:38]: various invoices and the completed um [0:23:38, 0:23:42]: uh Reggie Sylvain uh restaurant uh [0:23:42, 0:23:45]: The the ICA and the um um [0:23:46, 0:23:49]: the the contract away that that's been completely signed and so [0:23:49, 0:23:51]: That is uh stored in our archives. [0:23:52, 0:23:53]: Great. [0:23:55, 0:23:56]: Any questions for Bob? [0:24:01, 0:24:17]: All right, we will move on uh to the Main Street Advisory Board updates. Um so that is uh both the joint um uh both uh uh Lisa is here from Main Street, representing Main Street, as well as uh Barber who's the liaison. So Lisa, I'll turn it over to you first. [0:24:18, 0:24:20]: Good evening, everyone. [0:24:20, 0:24:21]: [1462.2, 1463.4]: Good to see you all. [0:24:23, 0:24:31]: Um I I spoke to Kira earlier today and asked her if there were any things she wanted me to uh inform you all of or [0:24:32, 0:24:36]: Make you abreast of and actually she says no, you know, um [0:24:37, 0:24:39]: Whatever projects we spoke to you about. [0:24:40, 0:24:51]: recently are still going on. And of course everything is a little bit slower these days. So we actually do not have any worthy updates to give for the Main Street program at this time. [0:24:56, 0:25:01]: All right, thank you, uh Lisa and um Barber, anything to add to that? [0:25:03, 0:25:03]: Nope. [0:25:05, 0:25:06]: Nothing to add. [0:25:07, 0:25:13]: Okay. And just uh Mr. Sears, he's you he's with us, Mr. Sears. Are you able to hear us now again? [0:25:21, 0:25:22]: Good. [0:25:22, 0:25:25]: He was he had chatted that he was having trouble with the audio. [0:25:29, 0:25:30]: Right. Um [0:25:31, 0:25:33]: Vanessa, did you have a question? [0:25:34, 0:25:35]: I say Henry's. [0:25:37, 0:25:45]: I was just going to note for the record that Mr. Sears had actually joined the meeting while you were giving your chairman's comments. [0:25:45, 0:25:46]: Thank you. [0:25:47, 0:25:47]: That's how. [0:25:48, 0:25:49]: Oh yeah. [0:25:49, 0:25:50]: All right, very good. [0:25:51, 0:25:58]: All right. Uh then we'll move on from the main street advisor board updates to the uh facade grant updates. So [0:25:58, 0:26:00]: I'm sorry, go ahead, Mr Sears. [0:26:08, 0:26:17]: He had put in the chat that he did we lose the sound. So he can't hear us. I mean, I I don't know if he can hear us or we can't hear him. I'm not sure. [0:26:18, 0:26:27]: Yes, I did reply to him um that uh we have audios and to check the settings and alternately um he could uh dial in the phone number. You have it now? [0:26:28, 0:26:34]: Yes, we hear you. Yeah, yeah, I j I checked the audio, I had to do a a test on it, so it finally came true. [0:26:35, 0:26:39]: All right. Ver very good. Thank thank you. Appreciate you being here. [0:26:41, 0:26:43]: Did you have anything you wanted to say, Mr. Sears? [0:26:44, 0:26:51]: No, the dates were uh I was I was good with the dates, I was just listening, but I you know and uh after Barber spoke, then uh my audio went quiet. [0:26:52, 0:27:01]: All right. Very good. Yeah, after if you said anything after that I can't agree on it, so don't hold me accountable. All right. [0:27:01, 0:27:09]: Noted. Okay, very good. All right, we'll move on to the uh facade grant update. Uh uh Mr. Christian, the floor is yours. [0:27:10, 0:27:10]: Certainly. [0:27:11, 0:27:15]: So I did speak with uh Toshina at Fletcher and Sons, who's uh [0:27:15, 0:27:16]: Fletcher's daughter. [0:27:17, 0:27:18]: Regarding [0:27:18, 0:27:19]: The results of our votes. [0:27:20, 0:27:20]: Um [0:27:22, 0:27:24]: Two things that we voted that [0:27:24, 0:27:25]: To wave the [0:27:26, 0:27:27]: Sign permit fee. [0:27:28, 0:27:33]: But that uh and that we also voted that no reimbursement occur until all work had [0:27:33, 0:27:34]: Um [0:27:34, 0:27:35]: been completed. [0:27:35, 0:27:38]: You know and approved you know by us. [0:27:39, 0:27:45]: And and she was fine with that. She said uh you know, she expected her father to be really happy about the waving of the um [0:27:45, 0:27:46]: The permit fee. [0:27:46, 0:27:47]: And [0:27:47, 0:27:50]: And I also let her know that that that included [0:27:51, 0:27:54]: The work that needs to be done, of course, was the signage on the side of the building. [0:27:55, 0:27:56]: And and she understood that. [0:27:57, 0:28:01]: And so it's just gonna be a matter of time for them to [0:28:01, 0:28:03]: uh proceed with that. [0:28:04, 0:28:05]: And uh that's all I have. [0:28:06, 0:28:06]: Great. [0:28:07, 0:28:11]: Thank you. Go ahead. Councilman McGann, I think it was. [0:28:13, 0:28:16]: Or was it Barber? I'm sorry, your voices sound similar. [0:28:18, 0:28:25]: Do you know if we're gonna have to pay the permit fees before he's able to finish the project or we're gonna pay that on the back end? [0:28:27, 0:28:33]: Uh I can't recall from the last meeting what we said if it was reimbursement or paying up front, but if it's waived. [0:28:35, 0:28:35]: Well [0:28:35, 0:28:40]: Maybe we can ask the city of Stockbridge if they're willing to waive it on our behalf or if they [0:28:40, 0:28:44]: require some type of payment, whether even if it comes from us. I don't think we actually [0:28:45, 0:28:46]: Talked about that. [0:28:46, 0:29:00]: Okay. Yeah. Uh we it was it was clear that the the it would be a reimbursement. So he yeah, they would have to incur the expense and we and and the D D A would include that expense among the things that we would reimburse them for. Okay. [0:29:01, 0:29:02]: Oh, okay. [0:29:02, 0:29:03]: Yeah. [0:29:03, 0:29:07]: I'll have to go up go back and um clarify that then. [0:29:07, 0:29:09]: Yeah, but now that we're talking through it. [0:29:11, 0:29:17]: I don't know that we clarified whether we would reimburse it because normally the the whole facade grant is at a fifty percent reimbursement. [0:29:19, 0:29:26]: Um and and I think the the spirit of you know, maybe we need to vote on it again for to clarify, but um [0:29:26, 0:29:31]: I think we understood that the signed fee was approximately ten to twenty five dollars, I believe. [0:29:32, 0:29:43]: You know, would we would the DDA include that as an expense that would be reimbursed at a hundred percent, or would it be at the normal facade grant reimbursement at fifty percent? So [0:29:44, 0:29:47]: Maybe we ought to talk through that point and b be clear. [0:29:48, 0:29:50]: I will say I thought it was my understanding that that entire [0:29:51, 0:29:53]: Permit fee would be waived. [0:29:55, 0:29:57]: I'll open it up for others to speak. [0:29:59, 0:30:04]: Can you give me clarity on what permit fee? We're talking about the sign on the side of the building. [0:30:04, 0:30:07]: Correct. From CDS Five I mean for the [0:30:08, 0:30:09]: The mural [0:30:09, 0:30:10]: So speaking. [0:30:11, 0:30:13]: Will that include his advertisement? [0:30:14, 0:30:19]: As well, it will say Fletcher's and Son, the one I saw it like an example. [0:30:19, 0:30:20]: Correct. Right. [0:30:22, 0:30:23]: Did anyone [0:30:23, 0:30:26]: I don't think Stockbridge voted to waive that. [0:30:26, 0:30:27]: I don't [0:30:27, 0:30:33]: I think that the and and not that I wouldn't waive it. I'm saying I don't think we've discussed that. [0:30:34, 0:30:35]: Um I know that [0:30:36, 0:30:36]: Um [0:30:38, 0:30:42]: Yeah, I don't know, but I do agree with uh Mr. with Roger that [0:30:44, 0:30:45]: Um [0:30:46, 0:30:48]: In regards to reimbursements. [0:30:48, 0:30:49]: That they do the [0:30:49, 0:30:53]: You know, that the facade is completely finished and then we reimburse. [0:30:53, 0:30:54]: Um [0:30:55, 0:30:58]: It would make sense if they're doing it because we asked for it. [0:30:59, 0:31:08]: Um, if Main Street asked them to, you know, allow a mural, to me it would make sense that that fee is waived, but I don't recall the city approving that. [0:31:10, 0:31:11]: Yeah. No, I'm sorry. [0:31:12, 0:31:25]: Um, I think that the DDA by waving it, it correct me if I'm good, my understanding was we were saying the DDA would take care of it. So it's the way for him in an essence that he doesn't have to pay for it. The DDA will pay for it. [0:31:25, 0:31:30]: outside of the reimbursable portions of his grant. [0:31:31, 0:31:32]: That was my takeaway. My [0:31:33, 0:31:40]: The only thing I would if Main Street's that's a Main Street project. I wouldn't object to Main Street paying for it. [0:31:40, 0:31:45]: But the facade grant, I don't know. Oh Vanessa's talking. I'm sorry. Vanessa. I'm sorry. [0:31:46, 0:31:51]: Go ahead, Vanessa. I think you're she may have something. We it looks like you you were looking at the record on this. [0:31:52, 0:32:00]: Yeah, I was just going to uh reference your last meeting where you voted on this particular item. [0:32:01, 0:32:14]: And it's uh board member Christian motion to reimburse permit signed fees where the signs included in the facade of the business and will be based on the scope of the project. [0:32:15, 0:32:16]: Thank you. [0:32:16, 0:32:17]: Okay. [0:32:17, 0:32:35]: Right. And and and just to clarify what makes this one unique is that in in this case that the the there's a a sign permit is is required for any sign, and that's a city requirement. And the DDA does not have the authority to waive a city, you know, sign fee. [0:32:36, 0:32:41]: Um what we were doing was saying, well, with the facade grant, then we would reimburse [0:32:41, 0:32:42]: The signed fee. [0:32:43, 0:32:47]: If it is part of the facade. Because we you know, if there's a separate [0:32:47, 0:32:48]: sign pole. [0:32:49, 0:33:09]: That has nothing to do with the facade grant, that's out of scope for the facade grant, and we wouldn't entertain that at all. But because he had this sort of uh retro mural on the side of the building that was the name of the business itself, it was actually a sign for the business, that's where the two blended together and we made the decision to reimburse it. [0:33:09, 0:33:27]: But now, you know, we didn't specify whether it'd be reimbursed at the fifty percent or the hundred percent. So I I I I think it would be helpful to just clarify that. Um I'm not sure what everyone had in mind or if we even thought through that. So maybe we ought to clarify that in this meeting so that, you know, uh Mr. Christian can have a clear [0:33:27, 0:33:29]: You know, point of reference when he speaks with the customer. [0:33:33, 0:33:36]: Well I I guess I have I guess it would [0:33:37, 0:33:40]: It's a little it's interesting because I know it's [0:33:41, 0:33:43]: I think Main Street asked for it. [0:33:44, 0:33:52]: I'm not against it, but at the same time, I I'm concerned about us not following our normal protocol. [0:33:52, 0:33:55]: In regards to facade grants. [0:33:55, 0:34:00]: If our applicate if our normal is to reimburse fifty percent up to a certain dollar amount. [0:34:00, 0:34:01]: Then [0:34:02, 0:34:08]: I think we need to keep that or we could, I don't know how we could do it. Um, because if someone else, but [0:34:09, 0:34:12]: If they're doing us a favor, then by all means. [0:34:13, 0:34:19]: I I mean I I understand, I get it. I think they should be I don't know well how to do handle it, to be honest with you. Um [0:34:20, 0:34:24]: My only concern is making sure that we're consistent when we do. [0:34:24, 0:34:27]: Because other people will put a sign out. [0:34:28, 0:34:30]: And we're not gonna give them [0:34:31, 0:34:33]: Full price, you know, we're not gonna pay for their sign. [0:34:33, 0:34:35]: Um, we're paying for a facade. [0:34:36, 0:34:39]: So we we really have to be careful and mindful of that. [0:34:40, 0:34:41]: I would think. [0:34:41, 0:34:43]: Other than that, I I understand. [0:34:45, 0:34:46]: I would say that um [0:34:48, 0:34:51]: Since w one one thing we could do since we've only had two [0:34:52, 0:34:54]: Um recipients of the facade grant. [0:34:55, 0:34:57]: And one one has already been completed. [0:34:58, 0:35:00]: Perhaps we can put it into the [0:35:00, 0:35:03]: uh policies and procedures to allow [0:35:03, 0:35:05]: Um, one hundred percent of [0:35:06, 0:35:10]: signs that have to perhaps that have to do with murals are on the side of a building. [0:35:11, 0:35:13]: to be waived. I would hate to have to go back now. [0:35:13, 0:35:15]: After saying, you know [0:35:15, 0:35:18]: One hundred percent and say, Oh, I'm sorry, it's only fifty. [0:35:19, 0:35:20]: Um [0:35:21, 0:35:24]: But like I said, it it could still be consistent since [0:35:26, 0:35:26]: Um [0:35:27, 0:35:31]: We could do this for now going f moving forward and put it uh as part of the policy. [0:35:33, 0:35:36]: I would be okay with that, but the policy w [0:35:37, 0:35:38]: Май концерн і. [0:35:39, 0:35:47]: Then we're allowing people to put murals. So of course they would put a mural instead of putting a a business side. I mean, there's just a lot of [0:35:47, 0:35:48]: Um [0:35:49, 0:35:55]: little holes through that, I think, because you would allow a business if I had a business there. [0:35:56, 0:36:02]: If I knew that I could do a mural with my business name on it, then that's what I'm gonna do because that's what you're gonna pay for. [0:36:04, 0:36:05]: Um, I just think that [0:36:08, 0:36:11]: Ooh, I don't know how we get around it. Um [0:36:12, 0:36:16]: For this particular project, it's for the city of Stockbridge. [0:36:16, 0:36:21]: Um, it's the part of the plan of our downtown RSVP, right? [0:36:22, 0:36:22]: So [0:36:25, 0:36:29]: I don't know. I don't know how we can do it, but I w we should [0:36:30, 0:36:33]: If if it's based off of Main Street's request. [0:36:34, 0:36:39]: We need to figure out a way of doing it. But I do want us to remain consistent on what we said in our application. [0:36:40, 0:36:42]: Okay. Uh Lisa, do you want to speak to that? [0:36:44, 0:36:45]: Yes, thank you. Um [0:36:46, 0:36:50]: First, I don't have all the answers because uh Kira [0:36:50, 0:36:54]: Із актуально спокійно містерфлече. [0:36:54, 0:36:56]: To make these arrangements. Um [0:36:57, 0:36:57]: But I will [0:36:58, 0:36:59]: Just add a few. [0:37:00, 0:37:01]: Things as food for thought. [0:37:02, 0:37:02]: Um [0:37:03, 0:37:05]: We will not be asking. [0:37:05, 0:37:08]: Every business in the downtown to [0:37:08, 0:37:10]: Allow us to create a mural. [0:37:10, 0:37:13]: This is a special situation. [0:37:13, 0:37:14]: Um [0:37:14, 0:37:15]: And so [0:37:16, 0:37:19]: I think if I understood uh Mr. Christian correctly. [0:37:20, 0:37:25]: Or someone made the point that if someone if some business was planning to make [0:37:25, 0:37:27]: A mural that [0:37:27, 0:37:28]: You all would [0:37:29, 0:37:31]: Мейк акмодаються. [0:37:32, 0:37:38]: I think that would be a lot. Um, especially because it won't be a main street um [0:37:38, 0:37:40]: activity or coordinated project. [0:37:41, 0:37:44]: This is a special situation. It's kind of the [0:37:44, 0:37:46]: Exception to the rule. [0:37:46, 0:37:51]: Um there may be another exception to the rule somewhere down the line where we ask another someone. [0:37:52, 0:37:52]: Um [0:37:53, 0:37:57]: But I don't think that you should set your standard based on this particular project. [0:37:57, 0:37:58]: So um [0:37:59, 0:38:03]: That is one thing. And the other thing is that the D D A um [0:38:03, 0:38:07]: Boundaries are not exactly the same as the Main Street boundaries. [0:38:07, 0:38:10]: So if you create um [0:38:10, 0:38:13]: Some kind of stipulation like what you're describing. [0:38:14, 0:38:16]: You're making your entire district um [0:38:17, 0:38:18]: susceptible to that. [0:38:19, 0:38:20]: Policy. [0:38:20, 0:38:23]: So those are just some of the things I wanted to add in there. [0:38:23, 0:38:27]: I think when this began, um, mister Fletcher was planning to. [0:38:28, 0:38:32]: uh paint his building anyway and he was going to put up a sign anyway. [0:38:33, 0:38:38]: And because we were working on the RSVP, uh, we approached him with the possibility. [0:38:40, 0:38:46]: Um, so initially he was just going to pay out of his pocket and then he found out about the facade grant. [0:38:46, 0:38:49]: And he was glad to try to work with the program. [0:38:49, 0:38:52]: Um, but then in addition to that. [0:38:52, 0:38:57]: There was this special uh situation that relates to the RSVP. [0:38:57, 0:39:03]: So I do think this one should be handled as an individual case where that's related. [0:39:05, 0:39:11]: Thank thank you, Lisa. Um and so is that possible for this to be dealt with as an individual case and [0:39:12, 0:39:13]: And not violate [0:39:15, 0:39:16]: Policy. [0:39:17, 0:39:37]: Well, I I I I'll I'll take that'cause I I spoke to Mr. McRae about this when we were first considering the idea of um, you know, waiving the uh sign fee and and and you know, I was concerned about, you know, can we do this? And it kind of mirrored the concern that Councilwoman Gantt just raised, which is, you know, we have to be consistent, which is true. And he he pointed out the same [0:39:37, 0:39:38]: Same thing. [0:39:38, 0:39:58]: And and you know, I pointed out that as you pointed out, Art, that you know, there's only been one prior recipient for the a facade grant. So um, you know, the he he just wanted to make sure that retroactively, if anyone would have benefited from that same change in standard, then we need to address that in some way, which is kind of a [0:39:58, 0:40:16]: non-issue at this point. I think we can um sort of f frame it specific enough to where it doesn't um leave open the um you know as far as how we word the the standard that we would reimburse, you know [0:40:16, 0:40:21]: the sign fee specific to if it is part of the facade grant. [0:40:22, 0:40:25]: I would also point out to your concern, Councilwoman Gantt, that [0:40:26, 0:40:35]: all facade grant applications are reviewed by the D DA before they're even approved. So if the idea that, you know, there's some sense of like, oh, I'll just [0:40:36, 0:40:38]: splash my sign on the side of the building. [0:40:39, 0:40:54]: that's not something that I would say that the DDA would be prepared to approve from the beginning, you know, if it's not something that for whatever reason, as Lisa suggested, is, you know, part of a larger effort for a mu you know, mural or some sort of redevelopment. [0:40:54, 0:41:03]: Then we would potentially take that under consideration. But I you know, we have the control within this group to approve or disapprove any application in the future. [0:41:06, 0:41:12]: Yes, I agree, Mr. Custin. I just my concern with that is although we can approve or disapprove [0:41:13, 0:41:19]: We still can be challenged and people can make claims. Um and so [0:41:20, 0:41:27]: That's one of my biggest concerns. I agree. I just I don't know which what how we get around it right now. [0:41:27, 0:41:28]: Maybe [0:41:29, 0:41:29]: Mm. [0:41:30, 0:41:32]: If we put in some language in regards to [0:41:33, 0:41:40]: Certain circumstances such as this, when Main Street request um, or this it is um, you know, the city's desire. [0:41:41, 0:41:41]: For [0:41:42, 0:41:45]: A certain look and someone agrees to participate. [0:41:45, 0:41:49]: then we would consider reimbursing for that particular thing a hundred percent. [0:41:50, 0:41:54]: I don't know, but I I do know it would have to go across the board. [0:41:54, 0:41:55]: And [0:41:56, 0:41:56]: Um [0:41:57, 0:42:04]: it would have to be approved. You're correct. It would have to be approved through the D D DA, but it would have to be in line with [0:42:05, 0:42:06]: Our RSBP. [0:42:07, 0:42:08]: For that purpose. So [0:42:09, 0:42:11]: Maybe we should ask Mr. McCrae when [0:42:11, 0:42:12]: We get a moment. [0:42:13, 0:42:14]: In regards to that. [0:42:15, 0:42:24]: Okay. Like maybe we can just craft the language to where it'll allow for this what we're intending the spirit of what we're intending here in this particular case, but [0:42:25, 0:42:27]: frame it so that it can't be [0:42:28, 0:42:29]: Misused. [0:42:30, 0:42:31]: In the future. [0:42:32, 0:42:42]: I I I'll I'll have that conversation with him and and and or if you'd like we can have that conversation together so we can explain, you know, what we're trying to get at and make sure that we're consistent. [0:42:42, 0:42:43]: Sure, that's great. [0:42:44, 0:42:44]: All right. [0:42:46, 0:42:50]: Um other thoughts on um the facade grant? Any other updates? Um [0:42:51, 0:42:51]: Art. [0:42:52, 0:42:52]: Yep. [0:42:53, 0:43:02]: Um I I do want to add a couple points to that. I think we've we've found through reviewing the program that uh there's some work to be done, both in terms of [0:43:03, 0:43:23]: The overall process of the application, consistent verbiage. Mr. McRae has reviewed some of the materials just to make sure that it's in line with the state statute, but also marketing the program so that you know we've you know we've got these funds and we want to make sure. [0:43:23, 0:43:30]: That they're taken advantage of for the businesses that are within the district. So I'd like to [0:43:31, 0:43:46]: look at the program itself um and and and would welcome maybe a uh maybe a a small subcommittee of maybe two or three of the board members that might be interested in sort of looking at it. [0:43:46, 0:44:02]: looking at the program holistically, fig figuring out what documents need to be updated and then figuring out how we can market the program. And and Mr. Peterson, if you want to add anything to this as well, because I know you and if I you and I have had some conversations about [0:44:02, 0:44:05]: how we can improve the program. [0:44:05, 0:44:06]: Any additional thoughts? [0:44:07, 0:44:10]: Yeah, I think um it doesn't need to be [0:44:10, 0:44:28]: totally revamped but the application on online needs to be updated and i i sent everybody my recommendations and a sample the applic the application online needs to be up updated uh there also needs to be money put into marketing the application and because [0:44:29, 0:44:49]: um of the amount of work that needs to be done. Roger and I just discussed actually yesterday and I agree with Roger with having a committee do it instead of just one person. And I think after um this the current application is completed, then we can get into our revamping the application, everything [0:44:49, 0:44:50]: From um [0:44:50, 0:44:51]: From the process. [0:44:51, 0:44:55]: to how it appears on the website to um to marketing. [0:44:57, 0:44:57]: Yeah. [0:44:58, 0:45:18]: But we're in a better place now than we were last month. So yeah. Right. Yeah. I mean the the doc thank you, uh Vanessa, for fixing the the website documents. But but even, you know, and art you brought this up early on when you were involved with the facade grant as far as the procedures for managing an application, both the approval and the review of the input. [0:45:17, 0:45:23]: voices and those types of things. And I I think we should at least have some guidelines as to what we think how that should be done. [0:45:24, 0:45:31]: So I'll uh it I'll ask for, you know, is anyone interested in, you know, art I'm gonna make the assumption that you'd like to continue. [0:45:31, 0:45:34]: sort of, you know, looking looking at the program [0:45:35, 0:45:46]: as we're just discussing, you know, and being involved with uh, you know, what needs to be updated. Yes. Would anyone else on the board be interested in uh working with art on this? [0:45:47, 0:45:48]: I would. [0:45:49, 0:45:49]: I'll be glad to help. [0:45:50, 0:45:51]: Okay. [0:45:51, 0:45:52]: Thank you. [0:45:52, 0:45:53]: Thanks, Bob. [0:45:55, 0:45:59]: All right. Anyone else? Any other thoughts on the facade grant in general? [0:46:01, 0:46:15]: And and uh you can put me down as well. I'm I'm happy to help in any way I can. I can at least lend my experience on the receiving end of a business owner who got the first facade grant, uh, you know, at least what my thoughts are for that. [0:46:16, 0:46:24]: All right. Um we'll move on to the next uh item on the agenda, which is the city staff update. So Mr. Peterson, uh you have the floor. [0:46:25, 0:46:45]: All right. Thanks a lot, Roger. Um, this no no large updates for the city. We do have a have a retreat coming up this week. Also, I'm going to meet with Mr. Knight and later on this month. Uh Roger and I met yet met yesterday and we discussed the TSW master plan. Um, Roger updated me on everything. [0:46:45, 0:46:56]: So um when I meet with Mr. Knight and later on this month, I'm going to uh have an in-depth conversation with him about that master plan. We're going to figure out [0:46:56, 0:47:07]: if we can continue it. Uh if so, how are we going to um edit the scope of work and things of that nature? Um and uh I'll keep you all updated on that. [0:47:08, 0:47:12]: And also, Roger, dealing with the um the facade grant. [0:47:12, 0:47:17]: This wasn't in the template that I sent you all, but I think that um [0:47:17, 0:47:23]: We need a point of contact for business owners to contact and also just someone who inspects. [0:47:23, 0:47:25]: The grant throughout the process. [0:47:25, 0:47:32]: Uh but we will we we we can talk about that later. But um are there any questions regarding the uh city staff update? [0:47:39, 0:47:45]: All right. Hearing none, seeing none, we'll move on. Uh Council McGantt, any updates from the city council? [0:47:46, 0:47:47]: Well [0:47:47, 0:47:54]: Um, I think we already know about the mural. There was a an additional mural that was discussed at the council meeting over [0:47:54, 0:47:57]: Um across the bridgeway to the right near the school. [0:47:58, 0:48:03]: Um that is they've hired an artist to the Main Street. [0:48:03, 0:48:12]: Has hired an artist to um come up with a rendering. And upon once they come up with that rendering, they will bring it back to mayor and council for approval. [0:48:12, 0:48:13]: Um [0:48:13, 0:48:19]: And that's pretty exciting. Uh we had a long meeting, but the meeting pretty much was about [0:48:19, 0:48:24]: Um, in general, a property that's not in our downtown [0:48:24, 0:48:27]: Stockbridge um area. It's actually [0:48:27, 0:48:32]: Over in the Eagles Landing portion off of forty two area. [0:48:33, 0:48:35]: Which is off of Brennan Road and Campground Road. [0:48:36, 0:48:36]: Um [0:48:37, 0:48:39]: And so there was a public hearing in that and [0:48:40, 0:48:50]: Most of the council, I think, well myself, a few council members have toured the amphitheater. And right now it's on track to um [0:48:51, 0:48:59]: the the actual amphitheater, not the roads, is on track to be completed at the end of May. It is a [0:48:59, 0:49:01]: It's an absolutely [0:49:01, 0:49:04]: Phenomenal. It's absolutely beauty. [0:49:04, 0:49:06]: I'm excited about it. Um [0:49:07, 0:49:27]: They're working on the parking on the left hand side um of the amphitheater. There's a couple of water features, which are really retention ponds that are now brought as water features. Um and it is a I mean, it's gonna I think everyone will be very pleased. I'm excited because I'm hoping [0:49:27, 0:49:28]: That [0:49:28, 0:49:32]: That uh years ago I started a food truck. [0:49:32, 0:49:32]: Park. [0:49:33, 0:49:37]: It and I'm pretty sure all of you know of that on Tasty T Tasty T and I missed that, but [0:49:38, 0:49:40]: Um I started it because [0:49:40, 0:49:49]: And it was right next to City Hall. I started it because we were trying to draw draw business and show people that our downtown has the potential. [0:49:50, 0:49:52]: For some great things. Um [0:49:53, 0:50:09]: and some great people, great business owners to come down and and do business here and and create business here in Stockbridge. So I'm excited about what's to come now that we have this amphitheater. I'm hoping that um as it being our anchor building [0:50:09, 0:50:10]: That [0:50:10, 0:50:11]: Um [0:50:11, 0:50:15]: We will have other developers and entrepreneurs. [0:50:16, 0:50:18]: and investors who are interested in [0:50:19, 0:50:35]: putting restaurants and different nice things here in our downtown area and helping our downtown Main Street area right now get more business or or more attention and attraction. So it's it's a really it's a it's unique and we're excited about that. [0:50:36, 0:50:38]: There wasn't really any more. [0:50:38, 0:50:46]: I don't think of anything else. We talked there is a retreat that we're gonna we're about to partake in um this week. And I think that's about it. [0:50:50, 0:51:10]: Barber, looks like you have a question and Art, I see your hand up as well. Go ahead, Barber. Yeah, I drove by uh City Hall last week and I was like, whoa, amphitheater just seemed like it just came out of nowhere. So my question is, will there be an opportunity for the DDA or maybe the public to have a tour at some point as well? [0:51:10, 0:51:14]: There will be, I'm sure, of that, but right now [0:51:14, 0:51:34]: Because of liability, we have to wear hard hats. We have to we have to make appointments ourselves to get and we have to wear our you know the yellow vest. And so right now it's just limited to mayor and council. But it was exciting to see. Listen, I hope people see it. I want, I think that once it's done, they [0:51:34, 0:51:54]: Maybe that's something the DDA can ask the city, is allow us to get other businesses or b places or restaurants or things that people that we know who may be interested in putting a business somewhere. Maybe we can take them on a tour, we can have a reception somewhere and then take them on a tour of our amphitheater and show them the [0:51:54, 0:52:07]: plans of what we want in our downtown. We have an art, we we're doing gonna build an art center. It's already been bonded, right? We voted to bond. And we're building a community center. They call it a senior, I call it a community center. [0:52:08, 0:52:26]: At first it was initially Senior and Youth Center. That's what most people say, but I say community because I want, you know, everyone. But it's exciting and I can't wait till y'all see it. I mean, especially the DDA. I'm excited. I I'm sure we can make some arrangements at some point, but right now it's just for me. I mean it's because of the liability. [0:52:27, 0:52:29]: I almost tripped and failed myself, so. [0:52:30, 0:52:35]: But it's beautiful, y'all. It's absolutely gorgeous one. I'll tell you what, the green room alone. [0:52:36, 0:52:40]: isn't a an event is a venue within itself. [0:52:40, 0:52:53]: There's a green room. It's the it's called a catwalk. And you literally walk across this bridge to this room. And it's really for the entertainers. There's a space in the back where the buses are to be parked for the entertainers. It is. [0:52:54, 0:52:57]: They thought of everything and it's the best [0:52:57, 0:53:00]: I'm tr I'm I hope I'm not being biased, but it's the best in Georgia. [0:53:00, 0:53:08]: It really is. It is the best in Georgia. I can't wait for y'all to see it. And I hope businesses hear us and we can market. [0:53:09, 0:53:10]: For the you know, in that manner. [0:53:11, 0:53:21]: I'm telling you, just driving by, I I was like, wow. Like yeah, I got excited just for what I could see from the road. So anyway, thank you. Um You're welcome. Yeah. [0:53:21, 0:53:23]: Art, I think you had your hand up. [0:53:24, 0:53:25]: And you're on mute. [0:53:29, 0:53:30]: Thank you. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:53:31, 0:53:33]: Has there been any further discussion regarding [0:53:33, 0:53:37]: Like parking in the park and ride lot um by council? [0:53:38, 0:53:40]: But to have to care, you know. [0:53:40, 0:53:41]: Parking right lot. [0:53:42, 0:53:45]: There hasn't. We we just we really we agree to [0:53:46, 0:53:47]: I remember um [0:53:48, 0:53:54]: Councilman Thomas bringing up a drop-off point for you know driving by. [0:53:54, 0:53:56]: We agreed with that. [0:53:56, 0:54:16]: the parking on the left hand side. There was a study or or something done that is part of the requirement of building such a large venue. And so the parking is being we bought seven acres next door to city right next to city hall to help with parking and there's a road. [0:54:16, 0:54:27]: There's Atlanta East Atlanta Road right there is gonna be widened. There's a turning lane that's gonna be put in place. And there's also a road coming from the back of the amphitheater. [0:54:27, 0:54:36]: like a a an another road for access in and out access for the public. And then there's parking on the left hand side. [0:54:36, 0:54:36]: Um [0:54:37, 0:54:44]: And parking like Jasmine or anywhere else, parking around the downtown area, but there will be uh a lot of parking and that's all [0:54:45, 0:54:50]: The public, the citizens and our council are always concerned about that. [0:54:51, 0:54:52]: Yeah. [0:54:52, 0:54:57]: But you gotta see it as soon as I promise y'all y'all gonna love it. I can't wait to everybody see it. [0:54:57, 0:54:59]: It's it's a beauty. [0:54:59, 0:55:00]: It really is. [0:55:02, 0:55:10]: And I um it was an aha moment. It's been going on for so long. Um, and Mr. Allen, this maybe that's something that you [0:55:10, 0:55:30]: I know I remember TSW coming and one of my concerns was uh probably well eight years ago, I wanted to model after 20 at one point. And we did an LCI. There was an LCI study already done. All we did was vote for option B, which all of them included an amphitheater. That [0:55:30, 0:55:35]: LCI is eligible for an update. [0:55:35, 0:55:47]: with that master plan. It's eligible for an update and we also could probably get that paid for through the Georgia Economic Development and some other downtown development authority grant that's available. [0:55:52, 0:55:56]: Councilman again, I'll uh I'll take that down and um [0:55:56, 0:55:58]: And we're we're going to discuss this again. [0:55:58, 0:56:03]: too. Okay. And um yeah. Yeah, that's uh that's great. Um great information. [0:56:03, 0:56:07]: Anything doing with I can get it get it paid for is is great. [0:56:07, 0:56:21]: Yeah, just give me a call or or we can and I can kind of look it up, but there's a grant available and we're able to update that LCI, which is which would be awesome because I think right now it's it's uh over 10 years old. [0:56:23, 0:56:23]: Yeah. [0:56:23, 0:56:25]: Hard anything else? [0:56:26, 0:56:28]: All right. Uh Simeikle, I think you had your hand up. [0:56:28, 0:56:31]: I was just gonna ask when was it scheduled to open? [0:56:33, 0:56:35]: So the we [0:56:38, 0:56:45]: They're supposed to be finished in May. We haven't made we'll probably make plans at we'll talk a little bit more about it at the retreat. [0:56:45, 0:56:55]: There's been some talk about some other possible additions, um, not additions to the amphitheater, but things that we could do to enhance the area in general. [0:56:55, 0:56:58]: to bring more traffic to the air to the downtown area. [0:56:59, 0:56:59]: Um [0:57:00, 0:57:05]: And so I don't know a particular date, but it will be a ribbon cutting. [0:57:05, 0:57:11]: And there's been talk of an event that probably wouldn't be to full capacity due to COVID. [0:57:11, 0:57:16]: And then hopefully we could have our first concert later this summer. [0:57:18, 0:57:19]: Yeah. [0:57:20, 0:57:24]: So we're uh just it's nice. [0:57:25, 0:57:45]: It's listen, it makes me smile. I've been begging for some type of movement. Miss Holiday can tell you, I used to always say, I need to see a bulldozer or something. Let's get it rooting, rocking and rolling. And it was just an aha moment. And I hope that the DDA, we can, you know, whether we do our own white boxes or we're able to purchase some property. [0:57:45, 0:57:52]: and do some things kind of like Madison or whatever. I hope that we're able to do the same. It is awesome. It's an awesome experience. It really is. [0:57:53, 0:57:54]: So Mikla, anything else? [0:57:55, 0:58:09]: All right, great. I do have a question. What are the plans for the East Atlanta Road widening? When is that to be when's that scheduled to begin? And and thoughts on that, please? I'll have to get back with you on that. I don't know when they're doing it. Um [0:58:10, 0:58:20]: I don't know the actual date or answer. So I'll send you an email. I'll speak to Mr. Knighton on those plans and actual schedule deadline. Right now I know they're working. [0:58:20, 0:58:33]: They're they're tidy up little bitty things. Um they even have they're tiding up little bitty things in the amphitheater and they're working to the left of us with the parking and the road, the the roads there. Um [0:58:34, 0:58:45]: But so I'm I'm not certain yet. And I'll get that date over to you. They'll probably be able to give me a little bit more. I know that um Falcon Design was possibly looking into and working on some things as well. [0:58:46, 0:58:46]: Um [0:58:47, 0:58:48]: So I don't know. [0:58:49, 0:58:52]: All right, anything else uh for Councilwoman Gantt? [0:58:53, 0:58:54]: Council updates? [0:58:57, 0:59:07]: Not hearing any or seeing any, so I'll move on to the next agenda item. Um I'm going to uh share my screen again and get that ready. [0:59:07, 0:59:08]: Uh [0:59:15, 0:59:16]: Bring this. [0:59:20, 0:59:20]: Yeah. [0:59:21, 0:59:40]: All right. So the uh I had um in our last meeting we talked about the um update to the uh DDA bylaws. I as we were transferring the records, um I found that there was actually another version of the D D A bylaws that I wasn't [0:59:40, 1:00:00]: I guess I for some reason I didn't have it, so I I've seen two versions. But this actually came about when we did our elections in December and we found that our bylaws actually call for a recording secretary that has to be appointed and it doesn't allow for the recording secretary to be to be served by this actual secretary. So we knew we needed to improve some [1:00:00, 1:00:07]: language in there. Mr. McCrae has reviewed our bylaws and came back with a few points, uh thoughts, recommendations. [1:00:08, 1:00:11]: The bylaws also call for an executive director. [1:00:11, 1:00:23]: And he said, and for either of these, we should the bylaws themselves or resolution should provide for any powers and duties if it's not already defined in the state statute. [1:00:23, 1:00:35]: So I'm just sharing some some comments, but um uh another and there are and you also noticed that there was a couple of area areas that overstep the state statute specifically um [1:00:35, 1:00:37]: It says that the executive committee [1:00:37, 1:00:46]: Could have the power to act between meetings, and that's not quite uh aligned with the uh Open Records Act and state statute. [1:00:46, 1:01:05]: Um the and also that it calls for the that the city would have the authority to purchase insurance and to authorize indemnification, but it does not. So those are some few things that Mr. McCrae pointed out. Um I'd also like to see, you know, kind of in line with um [1:01:05, 1:01:19]: indicating the powers and duties. This is something I believe um Mr. Sears brought up early on when we were doing our elections. Um like, you know, what does it mean to be, you know, chair or vice chair or treasurer? And so maybe we [1:01:19, 1:01:26]: Not sure whether we would consider putting that in the bylaws or through a resolution, but I do believe that, you know, we should at least consider some [1:01:26, 1:01:29]: expectations on what those roles mean. [1:01:30, 1:01:34]: Um so with that in mind, um this is another area where [1:01:35, 1:01:36]: Um [1:01:36, 1:01:56]: Uh and one before I move on to the call for action here, there's also the intergovernmental agreement, which we did discuss in our last meeting. Um, just in theory, you know, that we should we do not currently have a standing IGA with between the DDA and the city. And uh I think there was a general agreement that that would be a good idea. [1:01:56, 1:01:56]: Yeah. [1:01:57, 1:02:17]: Um, Mr. McCray, of course, can help us uh you know draft one, but we need we need some input as to what should be in the IGA. I mean, I have some thoughts as to you know just outlining a few points that should be addressed, but I'd like to ask for some help with both of these, um, just kind of going through the deep the [1:02:17, 1:02:37]: the bylaws and and and so I'm I'm asking for one or two, if you will, committee members to kind of help make recommendations for both updates to the bylaws as well as some points to consider with the IGA. And what that would mean is that we would meet uh once or twice. [1:02:37, 1:02:46]: maybe gather some ideas, maybe bring in Mr. McCrae for a meeting, get his thoughts, have him draft the document, and hopefully we can bring this back to this board. [1:02:47, 1:02:50]: possibly by the next meeting for uh review and approval. [1:02:51, 1:02:56]: So um a pause here for any uh questions or comments and then I'm happy to [1:02:56, 1:03:04]: here if anyone would like to uh help with uh either or really I'd like to do both kind of in parallel so [1:03:05, 1:03:08]: Um if if if anyone would be willing to help with both of these efforts. [1:03:16, 1:03:16]: I will. [1:03:17, 1:03:20]: And is that is that Bob? Yeah. [1:03:20, 1:03:22]: Yes, I will. Hey, thank you. I appreciate that. [1:03:24, 1:03:27]: Any any w any other comments or questions or [1:03:28, 1:03:32]: Anyone would be willing to serve on the on this committee to kind of review this? [1:03:32, 1:03:33]: I help out. [1:03:34, 1:03:35]: I'm sorry, Simiqua. [1:03:36, 1:03:37]: I'll help out. [1:03:38, 1:03:44]: Excellent. Yes. Okay. I think uh that's great and um I appreciate that. [1:03:44, 1:03:53]: Um and I'll I'll send a separate note following the meeting where we can maybe have a committee meeting to kind of discuss this in a little bit more detail. [1:03:53, 1:04:13]: All right, um that covers the two new business items. Uh unless there's any questions, I'll move on to the old business. And there's uh really just the first item under old business is the purchase and sale agreement. I have not received any updates on the closing date. We are not yet at the 60-day mark for the due diligence period. [1:04:13, 1:04:22]: Um I'll actually uh Council McGantt, did you have you heard anything about the purchase and sale agreement? Any any update? I I have not received any. [1:04:22, 1:04:27]: So I heard about the purchase and sell agreement today. The um [1:04:27, 1:04:32]: purchasers attorney has um reached out [1:04:32, 1:04:35]: for some additional information they needed from [1:04:35, 1:04:41]: the city and they're in the process of doing that. So they are in communication and working together to get it close. [1:04:42, 1:04:44]: Good. All right. Good to hear. [1:04:45, 1:04:51]: Um and with that I'll just move on to the last item on the agenda, which is the legal review. [1:04:51, 1:04:52]: Um [1:04:53, 1:05:12]: The uh earlier ch Chair Shaw uh had asked Mr. McCrae, our attorney, to review the two open contracts that we have with two vendors. And uh Mr. McRae completed his review and he came back with uh these comments and I'll I'll kind of uh review the highlights with you here. [1:05:12, 1:05:32]: So the JLL contract, this was engaged a couple of years ago. It's a real estate brokerage service, and what they do is to help um broker the assemblage of parcels. So what they'll do is like, you know, help assemble uh you know a section of land that could be redeveloped into a big something. [1:05:32, 1:05:34]: Yeah. [1:05:35, 1:05:35]: It [1:05:36, 1:05:52]: Does have some confusing language in there. It kind of um toggles between referencing the city versus the DDA, but it was the DDA who signed the agreement. So the assumption is that this is all referring to the DDA, but that's the language is a little bit um [1:05:53, 1:05:56]: problematic in that sense'cause it's not clear. [1:05:56, 1:06:00]: Um із thankfully terminatable. [1:06:00, 1:06:01]: Terminable. [1:06:01, 1:06:17]: uh at will by the DDA. It does specify that payments would be addressed to uh the former economic development director, Mr. Touchton. Um if we do decide to keep this agreement, it should um I I think it should go to the DDA. [1:06:18, 1:06:18]: Um [1:06:19, 1:06:25]: There is a four percent commission indication there that it would be intended that the seller [1:06:25, 1:06:29]: whoever that might be would pay and if it were to be the um [1:06:30, 1:06:44]: situation like the purchase and sale agreement we just mentioned, um, you know, that would in at least in in that scenario, that would be property that would at least for the moment be deeded over to the DDA. And that means that commission would be incurred by the DDA. [1:06:45, 1:06:55]: So something to keep in mind. And uh but fortunately the DDA must approve all of the JLL services before it has uh a commission obligation. So [1:06:56, 1:06:57]: It's [1:06:57, 1:07:02]: Um I think the general the way I would kind of characterize this is that there's some [1:07:03, 1:07:04]: Kind of [1:07:05, 1:07:25]: sloppy language if you will, but I I don't see that this poses a high risk. Um but I'll open it up for any questions or comments. And um I think I've shared this with the DDA before, but if you want I can um following the meeting I can share uh both of these agreements with the board. [1:07:24, 1:07:40]: so you can look at it in a little bit more detail. There's they're not huge agreements. I think each one's like three to four pages. So you know that way you have time to digest it given Mr. McCrae's comments. But any questions at this point on uh I on the JLO contract? [1:07:43, 1:07:46]: I don't have a question about J L. Hold on one moment. I'm sorry. [1:07:47, 1:07:53]: I I don't have a question. I have a comment. The reason why the JLL contract was um [1:07:53, 1:07:58]: postponed at the time from my understanding or I don't think the DDA postponed. [1:07:58, 1:08:02]: But the city has their own broker. [1:08:02, 1:08:04]: They have that [1:08:04, 1:08:10]: is to acquire properties and it didn't we just wanted to make sure there wasn't a conflict there. [1:08:10, 1:08:15]: And at the time I had spoken with Mr. Tushton, he agreed. [1:08:15, 1:08:16]: But [1:08:17, 1:08:21]: He's not here, so I don't know what what happened to that. [1:08:23, 1:08:23]: Okay. [1:08:26, 1:08:46]: Thank you. I'm I'm not sure what to say about that. I mean, other than um I would, you know, being that you serve on the DDA, uh, you know, you would have, you know, a voice to um, you know, consider any services before they're obligated, you know, if it if if if it did come from JLO. We've had no [1:08:46, 1:08:49]: contact with JL for probably a couple of years now. So [1:08:49, 1:08:52]: Um I I don't know that. [1:08:52, 1:08:56]: you know, anything is expected to materialize, but you know, it could come out of the woodwork. [1:08:57, 1:08:59]: Hey, I've got this great deal. [1:08:59, 1:09:00]: So [1:09:02, 1:09:05]: So any other comments or questions? Go ahead, Barber. [1:09:05, 1:09:08]: So their role here pretty much is to [1:09:08, 1:09:12]: you know, possibly bring land deals to the D DA? Is that [1:09:13, 1:09:15]: ultimately what the agreement is for. [1:09:16, 1:09:21]: I don't know if it's specific to land, but yeah, uh development deals. Yeah. Development deals. [1:09:22, 1:09:22]: Okay. [1:09:25, 1:09:26]: All right. [1:09:27, 1:09:34]: Um I'll move on to the next side. Roger I'm sorry I did have a question, Roger about the um the IGA and the well [1:09:35, 1:09:38]: The purchase and sale agreement, what is that sixty day deadline? [1:09:39, 1:09:55]: Do we know what that is for the due diligence? So sixty days from that, end of March. Or probably dips a little bit into April because uh February was only twenty eight days. So probably probably April's first or second is by counting. [1:09:58, 1:10:00]: Thank you. Um anything else? [1:10:02, 1:10:22]: Right, and the last item is TSW. This is the uh master planning services. We've mentioned it a few times in this meeting. They were engaged uh December of twenty nineteen. Um we started off at a quick pace. They did some drawings for us and did quite a bit of work. We did a tour and a walkthrough. [1:10:22, 1:10:31]: uh early in 2020. Um but it the the the contract was ultimately suspended. [1:10:31, 1:10:37]: uh due to COVID and and other reasons. Um but looking at the contract itself. [1:10:37, 1:10:46]: Um, it does refer to a map which, even though uh Mr. McCrae did not see the map, it had subsequently been provided uh by the firm. [1:10:46, 1:11:06]: It does recommend engaging in a market study from a partner organization called Bleakly. And that was that had been agreed to that the city would fund that portion for$8,500. And the uh it's an hourly fee schedule for the total. [1:11:06, 1:11:08]: contract which was twenty nine thousand [1:11:08, 1:11:15]: And the duration of the contract is not specified, which is good because it's been suspended and we hope that maybe we can um [1:11:16, 1:11:28]: resume this um master planning in some form. So overall, um no real concerns with the way that particular contract is written. Any thoughts or questions? [1:11:33, 1:11:38]: You said the the contract was suspended because of covet and other reasons can can you know. [1:11:39, 1:11:42]: Uh that that piques my curiosity. Any [1:11:42, 1:11:43]: Yeah. [1:11:43, 1:11:46]: Yeah, um there were an area. [1:11:46, 1:12:04]: There were a number of things that were needed um as feedback from the city, namely um uh a decision on the railroad crossing, uh uh information about what properties were owned by the city and future development um [1:12:05, 1:12:25]: uh intentions for any properties owned by the city so that you know the master plan could you know align to the city's uh expectations for those properties. Um there's a couple other points, the um uh parking and uh pedestrian um plans. [1:12:25, 1:12:45]: So and and parking and traffic plans. So that those are just you know broad uh categories of things that um were being requested as far as feedback from the city. And um and you know, I'll add this was you know in the February 2020. [1:12:45, 1:12:54]: twenty twenty timeframe, right when COVID was ramping up and everything was shutting down. So it ultimately got uh suspended for the time being. [1:12:56, 1:12:59]: I've shared this information, I'll say with Mr. Peterson. [1:12:59, 1:13:19]: And that was what um he referred to. Uh he's planning on having a meeting with uh Mr. Knighton, the city manager, uh later, I believe later this week. So um I'm grateful that he's taken up this um effort to see if you know, if and how we can move forward with uh a master plan for the downtown district. [1:13:19, 1:13:19]: Yeah. [1:13:23, 1:13:24]: Thank you. [1:13:24, 1:13:25]: Sure. [1:13:27, 1:13:40]: And that uh concludes the remarks I have for the JLL uh and TSW. Um and that is, I believe, the last item on our agenda. So [1:13:40, 1:13:45]: Um I'll open up the floor if there's any general comments that we want to uh cover. [1:13:47, 1:13:48]: Any anyone? [1:13:51, 1:13:53]: Finding my controls here. [1:13:53, 1:13:54]: There we go. [1:13:55, 1:13:56]: All right. [1:14:01, 1:14:01]: All right. [1:14:02, 1:14:22]: Not seeing or hearing any. Um, but before we close, I just want to thank everybody. I mean, you know, service on the board like this, it's a volunteer board. Um you're taking your personal time and energy and and even even those uh city staff members, Lisa and Vanessa and Councilwoman Gantt, um you're [1:14:22, 1:14:23]: Your jobs. [1:14:24, 1:14:36]: don't necessarily call for being in a meeting at six or seven o'clock or sometimes late uh later on in the evening. So I I really appreciate uh your service to the board and to the city. So thank you all. [1:14:38, 1:14:44]: Uh with that in mind, um I'll entertain a motion to adjourn unless somebody has anything to uh speak to. [1:14:49, 1:14:51]: I I move it with adjourn. [1:14:51, 1:14:53]: All right, Bob, thank you. [1:14:53, 1:14:54]: A second. [1:14:55, 1:14:56]: Thank you, Art. [1:14:57, 1:14:58]: Any discussion? [1:15:00, 1:15:05]: All right, very good. With by show of hands in favor of adjourning the meeting, let's uh vote. [1:15:06, 1:15:06]: There we go. [1:15:07, 1:15:17]: Oh very good. That looks unanimous. All right, everybody. Thank you very much. Uh our meeting is adjourned. Have a great evening. Good night, everybody. Good night. Good night. Thank you.

--- title: Main Street Advisory Board Meeting date: 2021-03-12 source: 2021-03-12_Main_Street_Advisory_Board_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:10, 0:00:10]: Yeah. [0:00:25, 0:00:30]: All of those things um and uh will be uh completed. [0:00:30, 0:00:33]: Uh as I mentioned, I anticipate being completed in that time frame. [0:00:37, 0:00:40]: Looks like it looks like Anika has a question also. [0:00:41, 0:00:46]: Thank you. Um, Mr. Knighton, I have a really quick question that may be a little premature. [0:00:46, 0:00:53]: But I'm thinking of the downtown Main Street area when I'm asking this to get a feel of what kind of [0:00:53, 0:00:54]: Um [0:00:55, 0:01:05]: Um let's see, individual in terms of their aesthetics and interests will be coming into our area in the beginning aspects of the stadium. I'm sorry, amphitheater. [0:01:06, 0:01:14]: Does the city have any particular talent already lined up or considering performing here? So we can [0:01:14, 0:01:16]: uh kind of entertain again. [0:01:17, 0:01:24]: what age, what demographic, what interests might be in um coming into our city um late summer or uh early fall. [0:01:25, 0:01:37]: One of the things and let me turn that off. One of the things that I think we want to do and has always been I think the vision of the council is to provide a diverse offering. [0:01:38, 0:01:42]: of um genres that will perform at the amphitheater. [0:01:42, 0:01:51]: Because what we want to do is create something for everyone, everyone in Stockbridge, Henry County, and the region to be able to come into our downtown area. [0:01:52, 0:01:54]: And in order to do that, in order to expand um [0:01:55, 0:01:58]: We want in order to expand uh our our [0:01:58, 0:02:01]: Have a broad base from which to draw on. [0:02:02, 0:02:04]: Uh we'll have a uh we intend to have [0:02:05, 0:02:07]: different offerings of uh [0:02:07, 0:02:09]: Styles of music, entertainment, et cetera. [0:02:10, 0:02:11]: Um [0:02:13, 0:02:14]: One of the things that's been a challenge. [0:02:15, 0:02:17]: uh related to [0:02:17, 0:02:20]: Anything right now is the pandemic. [0:02:20, 0:02:23]: And how things will unfold after the pandemic. [0:02:24, 0:02:29]: Um, you know, we're we're starting to trend downward in terms of COVID cases, everybody knows. [0:02:29, 0:02:31]: One of the issues though is [0:02:31, 0:02:35]: When we're ready to open the amphitheater at what capacity will we be able to open? [0:02:36, 0:02:39]: I honestly doubt that we'll be able to open [0:02:39, 0:02:41]: Initially um [0:02:41, 0:02:43]: At full capacity. I'm I'm just [0:02:44, 0:02:49]: just projecting where we are and what I what I would intend based on some other conversations. [0:02:50, 0:02:57]: with other people who are looking at different venues and so forth. So I don't know if we'll open at full capacity, be able to open at full capacity. [0:02:57, 0:03:01]: Um we'll have to phase it in at you know forty percent, fifty percent, so forth. [0:03:02, 0:03:04]: Or capacity in the amphitheater. [0:03:04, 0:03:06]: But yes, we we plan to certainly have. [0:03:07, 0:03:09]: various opportunities for [0:03:09, 0:03:14]: different types of uh entertainment at the amphitheater. And hope I hope it answers your question. [0:03:16, 0:03:18]: Thank you. Yes. Sure. Okay. Thank you. [0:03:19, 0:03:29]: Okay, Mr. Knighton, if you can return back to our um All right. Okay, one one other thing real quick. I'm sorry. Oh okay. No, that's okay. [0:03:29, 0:03:33]: Now one of the main ponds over here, we will have walking trails. [0:03:33, 0:03:40]: I think it's twelve foot, I believe, walking trails around um ponds here and there'll be an elevated view. [0:03:40, 0:03:44]: Somewhere in this area where you can look down into the pond. [0:03:44, 0:03:48]: Um i as a water feature. And once these are all done, of course they'll be [0:03:48, 0:03:56]: Essentially amenities for the amphitheater project. But as people are able to walk from the parking area, there'll be an elevated area here. [0:03:56, 0:03:59]: Um it'll provide an extremely nice view. [0:04:00, 0:04:05]: um into the the uh one of the ponds and then of course there'll be walking trails in and around the areas. [0:04:06, 0:04:07]: Thank you for allowing me to share that. [0:04:08, 0:04:17]: And Mr. Knighton, I just have a special request that you make sure there are enough receptacles for people who are walking on that trail who walk with dogs. [0:04:17, 0:04:18]: Mm-hmm. [0:04:20, 0:04:21]: All right. [0:04:21, 0:04:22]: Duly, duly noted. [0:04:22, 0:04:23]: Thank you. [0:04:24, 0:04:26]: Thank you all for allowing me to to share that with you. [0:04:27, 0:04:32]: And uh Mr. Knighton, before you um totally go away, I wanted to um [0:04:33, 0:04:46]: Also um ask if you could give just a quick update on the alleyway project. I know that we've submitted several task orders. Have you received any um additional update from um Falcon Design? [0:04:50, 0:04:52]: You're on mute, Mr. Knighton. [0:04:54, 0:05:00]: I'm sorry, apologize for that, that they're working on the construction documents that are associated with the project. [0:05:00, 0:05:03]: Um obviously those have to be in put in place in order to [0:05:04, 0:05:05]: Execute. [0:05:05, 0:05:07]: Um construction [0:05:07, 0:05:14]: Um they will be providing me with a more substantial update uh next week on uh their progress. They understand the [0:05:15, 0:05:20]: important nature of of the project, Falcon Design I'm talking about, who's working on it. [0:05:21, 0:05:25]: And so they're moving, they've got uh members of their staff moving and working on that project as well. [0:05:26, 0:05:31]: And if I can prov I'll provide I'll be able to provide uh to you, Kira, a more substantial update next week. [0:05:31, 0:05:35]: Okay, thank you. And I'll be sure to share that with the board. Okay. [0:05:35, 0:05:41]: All right. Thank you, sir. I appreciate your um willingness to to share with us. Thank you. Thank you. [0:05:43, 0:05:52]: Okay, um the next um update that I had um w is with regard to our um public art initiative, our mural update. [0:05:52, 0:06:06]: And if you all recall at our last meeting we did um pinpoint the location and we talked a lot about the um theme and what our uh mural would [0:06:06, 0:06:11]: Um look, we kind of came to um a design, a preliminary design. [0:06:11, 0:06:22]: Um and then we tasked a committee to meet to further discuss the mural, um, the concept and um the content. [0:06:23, 0:06:38]: Uh well the committee has met. Um they've actually met um two times, and um we've got a little bit of um a change going on that we wanted to um share with you all. Um we've made some decisions that um [0:06:39, 0:06:53]: We wanted to share with you all because we feel like we need to revisit the the mural and the concept that we had initially started working on. So I'm going to share my screen. [0:06:54, 0:06:57]: Um, so that you all can um [0:06:58, 0:07:03]: s kind of get an idea of what the committee has been working on. [0:07:09, 0:07:10]: Okay. [0:07:14, 0:07:14]: Okay. [0:07:19, 0:07:22]: Okay, Lisa, i are you all able to see my screen? [0:07:23, 0:07:24]: Okay, fabulous. Okay. [0:07:25, 0:07:29]: Stockbridge mural project. When we um came to you all [0:07:29, 0:07:33]: Um last month um we had [0:07:33, 0:07:34]: Um [0:07:34, 0:07:40]: Three things happened. We um selected where we were going to place the design and we talked about um [0:07:41, 0:07:44]: The design theme, and we also shared. [0:07:44, 0:07:47]: kind of a concept that the um [0:07:47, 0:07:55]: artist had come up with, and that was the whimsical train idea for that particular mural, which will be our first mural. [0:07:56, 0:08:01]: Well, as the committee um began working on this and further developing it. [0:08:01, 0:08:07]: We found that most people uh were just kind of ambiguous and I'll say [0:08:07, 0:08:10]: Дефені а вас абigіус. [0:08:10, 0:08:11]: about [0:08:11, 0:08:13]: The concept and [0:08:13, 0:08:20]: Um Willie Hopkins, who um is also serving on the committee. [0:08:20, 0:08:28]: He asked us a bit the big question. And the big question was: what are we trying to accomplish with this first mural? [0:08:28, 0:08:32]: And um, you know, everyone thought about this and we were um [0:08:32, 0:08:34]: Asked to think about this and [0:08:35, 0:08:39]: Um, Willy came up with the fact that we must tell Stockbridge story. [0:08:40, 0:08:41]: And [0:08:41, 0:08:50]: Definitely that is something that we kind of took to heart as a committee and said, let's rewind, let's rework this because. [0:08:51, 0:08:54]: This particular mural with the train um [0:08:54, 0:08:58]: Theme was not really telling Stockbridge's story. [0:08:59, 0:09:02]: So we kind of went back to the drawing board. [0:09:02, 0:09:03]: Um [0:09:03, 0:09:08]: And we came up with some inspirational words that [0:09:08, 0:09:11]: Um, we wanted to [0:09:12, 0:09:12]: Um [0:09:13, 0:09:16]: draw from with regard to the mural design and [0:09:17, 0:09:25]: Um, what it was that we wanted to say, what story we wanted to tell. And so these are the words that the committee came up with. [0:09:25, 0:09:27]: that describe [0:09:28, 0:09:31]: The feeling or the impact or the [0:09:32, 0:09:38]: the overall um theme that we wanted to um convey through the mural. [0:09:42, 0:09:55]: Then we looked at different examples of murals. These are some murals that I j just kind of call the word-word-word murals. These are murals that just basically [0:09:56, 0:10:02]: let you know that you are coming into a particular town or a particular space, a particular district. [0:10:02, 0:10:10]: Um the one on the left is one that I picked up from um Tallahassee. I see that every time I go. [0:10:10, 0:10:15]: to that city when I'm taking my daughter back to college. The other one is from Philadelphia. [0:10:15, 0:10:16]: Um [0:10:16, 0:10:28]: And the committee was just tasked to find murals from all over that spoke to them in some kind of way. This is um one in Atlanta, one in park, but again, I call these um. [0:10:29, 0:10:32]: Informally word murals. [0:10:32, 0:10:34]: Where the words are what [0:10:34, 0:10:41]: really grab you more so than the pic the picture is secondary to the words and that the message is trying to convey. [0:10:42, 0:10:48]: Then we also looked at what I call postcard murals. Um, you know, here's one from Orlando, here's one [0:10:48, 0:10:50]: Um from El Paso. [0:10:50, 0:11:01]: that just basically are welcome, welcome meant, something that you would just basically see as a kind of a gateway sign into a community. [0:11:03, 0:11:18]: And we actually um had something very similar proposed to us by the artist. Our number two concept was kind of a welcome to Stockbridge postcard type mural. Um you see one at the top that's in Atlanta on the west end and [0:11:18, 0:11:23]: Um then again our um second concept that we kind of considered. [0:11:24, 0:11:37]: Then we also have the single subject murals that we looked at. This is the one on the left is one in Seattle, and the one on the right is the sixth concept that the artist provided for us. [0:11:38, 0:11:46]: And um, you know, you see that there is um one predominant iconic figure or um person. [0:11:46, 0:11:46]: Um [0:11:47, 0:11:50]: event building that is taking um up [0:11:51, 0:11:57]: the um primary real estate on that particular mural. So this is another design that was considered. [0:11:57, 0:12:00]: Um here are some other single subject murals. Um [0:12:01, 0:12:03]: Downtown Atlanta on the right, um [0:12:04, 0:12:07]: Конгресмен Лус, а не о курс. [0:12:09, 0:12:17]: You know, this the one on the left is in Philadelphia. I I'm assuming this is a person that's in their community that they hold in high esteem. [0:12:19, 0:12:39]: Um, and then we have collage type murals. And out of all of them, I think that these were the mural, these this style of mural is the one that spoke to the community. Um, the community, to the committee most. Um, it evoked um feelings of excitement and engagement. And so I think that. [0:12:39, 0:12:39]: Uh [0:12:39, 0:12:40]: Um [0:12:41, 0:12:45]: This was the one that people just kind of focused on and just kept coming back to. [0:12:45, 0:12:53]: So we're interested in doing the same type of collage mural here in the downtown area. So that is departing from [0:12:53, 0:12:54]: That [0:12:54, 0:13:04]: um style the whimsical train um concept that we were looking at before. Of course this means that it's going back to the drawing board. [0:13:04, 0:13:13]: And realizing um a concept and a design, we spoke with the artist. Um, he is on board for going back and [0:13:13, 0:13:19]: redoing some of the work and coming up with some different concepts. I actually have a another meeting. [0:13:19, 0:13:24]: a telephone conversation with him, but I wanted to point to this Knoxville mural. [0:13:25, 0:13:28]: If s you look at the knocks via mural. [0:13:29, 0:13:35]: You can see that there is a lot of things going on and it's very engaging. It almost just pulls you in. [0:13:37, 0:13:39]: Um, why we like this mural? [0:13:40, 0:13:53]: We like it because it's vibrant, it has bright color, it has movement, it packs a big punch. You can see what there is to do when you come to Knoxville. You get a pretty good idea. [0:13:53, 0:13:57]: of what Knoxville has to offer just by looking at this image. [0:13:57, 0:14:08]: Um it blends old with new. You see the trolley car, you see the river boat, and then you see the iconic um aquarium building and the sphere. [0:14:09, 0:14:15]: Um, it also includes people doing a lot of things. And that is one of the things um that [0:14:16, 0:14:20]: Through the surveys that Lisa and I conducted, um [0:14:20, 0:14:24]: during the RSVP and other community engagement activities. [0:14:24, 0:14:25]: Um [0:14:25, 0:14:27]: community and visitors [0:14:27, 0:14:35]: our events and activities and parks and active items in our that our community have to offer is what engages people. [0:14:36, 0:14:42]: And so this mural spoke to us because it shows people doing lots of different things. [0:14:42, 0:14:50]: You immediately feel the spirit and culture with this particular mural. You see that they have a music culture, you see that they have [0:14:50, 0:14:53]: An outdoor culture that they have. [0:14:53, 0:14:57]: Um, a creative culture. And so those are things that [0:14:58, 0:14:58]: You know. [0:14:59, 0:15:01]: We want to be able to [0:15:02, 0:15:03]: Um evoke as well. [0:15:04, 0:15:12]: It gives a shout-out to the arts and it acknowledges community icons. You know, you have the guy, there's an artist there, there's a guy playing the [0:15:12, 0:15:18]: Um, saxophone. We're thinking that maybe he's someone from Knoxville that the community [0:15:18, 0:15:24]: um holds in high esteem. We don't have the entire mural. So there might have been a caption or something there. [0:15:24, 0:15:28]: Um and but most importantly and going back to [0:15:28, 0:15:40]: Um, the slide that I showed before, when we asked the big question, it tells a story. And so this is the type of mural that we would like to start working on as a committee. [0:15:41, 0:15:44]: And um kind of get you all's um [0:15:44, 0:15:46]: endorsement as the [0:15:47, 0:15:49]: Main street advisory board. [0:15:49, 0:15:57]: to move forward with because we feel that though the whimsical train was cute and um we felt that it was going to [0:15:57, 0:16:01]: Really have a connection or at least provide a connection to [0:16:01, 0:16:05]: The school yard and um being near the school. [0:16:05, 0:16:06]: Uh we felt that [0:16:07, 0:16:21]: This is our big chance. This is our first chance and our biggest chance to really make an impact with a mural. We've got a very talented mural artist and we've got a great space. We think that we can do just so much more with that. [0:16:22, 0:16:30]: So um I'm gonna just open it up to any comments. Um some of the mural design committee members are here on the call. [0:16:31, 0:16:35]: And um if there's anyone else that has some comment that they would like to offer. [0:16:39, 0:16:59]: Yeah, I just wanted to add comments to support kind of what you presented there. Um, I liked the new idea of where it's going. Um, I didn't get a chance to attend the last meeting or give feedback, but I did get to look at some of the other options. And I do like where it's going because of the color, um, because of including the story that it's telling. [0:16:59, 0:17:19]: instead of um it just being one particular story of trains or you know daddy king it was like you had to kind of like pick um between and there's much more to it as well to Stockbridge so I totally agree I love the idea of telling the story with the collage look and the vibrant colors. [0:17:18, 0:17:22]: So I think that was something that was missing out of the other ones as well too. So um [0:17:23, 0:17:25]: That's my two cents. I think I think that was good though. [0:17:25, 0:17:29]: Okay, fabulous. Anyone else want to comment? [0:17:32, 0:17:33]: At the murder. Anika. [0:17:34, 0:17:54]: Yes, um, thank you. I just wanted to echo everything you said, uh, but also speak to I don't know if I heard you mention that in our mural, we want to make sure that the story of the past and the future are also incorporated. So there will be we would love to see nods to our rich heritage as well as. [0:17:54, 0:18:14]: nods to what we will continue to grow to be. And again, as a member of that committee, we really want to make sure that this first effort is is is a good representation, as I say, a brand of what the city is aspiring to be. So um thank you guys for your feedback and we're super excited about this. [0:18:14, 0:18:16]: Yes, thank you. Anyone else? [0:18:20, 0:18:21]: Okay. [0:18:22, 0:18:36]: All right. Well I did want to add that um we uh I've had a meeting with the um principal at Stockbridge Elementary School, Mr. Jermaine Os Armore, and he is very excited about the project as well. [0:18:36, 0:18:43]: Um he is actually interested in um serving on the design um mural design committee. [0:18:44, 0:18:54]: And um I invited I invited him to be a part of that since it is going to be um essentially a part of his campus. Um I thought it would be a good idea for him to [0:18:54, 0:18:59]: you know, see what we're doing and um have some input if you know if necessary to [0:19:00, 0:19:03]: Help us come up with something that is gonna just be iconic. [0:19:04, 0:19:06]: And um he was very um [0:19:06, 0:19:07]: Glad and [0:19:07, 0:19:11]: to be invited and very interested in helping us with that. [0:19:11, 0:19:13]: Um any other comments? [0:19:15, 0:19:23]: Okay, I'm gonna move on from the mural and I'm gonna ask Greg to just give us a very quick update about the um [0:19:23, 0:19:38]: Henry County Arts Consortium project that we're partnering with them on. We mentioned it a few months back, but I just wanted to bring it back up because it's actually being initiated now and um [0:19:38, 0:19:39]: Greg, I'll let you take it. [0:19:42, 0:20:02]: Okay, um, so uh I'm serving as co-chair on the artist consortium on the Henry County Artist Consortium, um, which is a group of art-minded people who want to bring together the art community, uh Henry businesses and uh Henry local governments um through public art and and become [0:20:02, 0:20:22]: Group that those local municipalities come to to help uh establish public art across the county. Our first project is the squirrel table, what we call the squirrel table project. What we're doing is taking squirrel tables, and if you're not, everyone's not familiar with what that is, it's actually a little picnic table. [0:20:22, 0:20:42]: Scale down to the size of a squirrel, which has become actually an Instagram phenomenon over the past year. People taking pictures of squirrels and chipmunks on their squirrel tables in their backyard. The artist consortium saw a way for the community to become engaged with public art through. [0:20:42, 0:21:02]: using squirrel tables and we've we've pushed the project forward as kira mentioned uh um the uh main street program managers have uh engaged with us and decided to partner with us um and help us with the rollout of this project in uh installing squirrel tables in the [0:21:02, 0:21:10]: The different municipalities and across uh the county and the parks. And Greg, these are Main Street managers at all of the cities, correct? [0:21:11, 0:21:31]: Um uh we haven't been able to engage with McDonough Main Street. Um because the artist consortium in its present state is is uh supported and funded by Visit Henry County, which is you know the rebranding of the of the Henry County CVB, um and McDonough has their own. [0:21:31, 0:21:51]: owned. So they they kind of excluded themselves a little bit, though we are working with the county parks and recs to try to get squirrel tables in the McDonough area through the county um aspect instead of the city aspect. But Hampton has fully engaged with us Kira as as as you and and the Stockbridge Main Street [0:21:51, 0:22:11]: Street has, and we're still working through things with Locust Grove, but we think all three of those are going to engage with us fully. So the project has begun and the first 10 tables are now being installed. We've actually installed a few and Kira and I are meeting to install the first one for Stockbridge Main Street. [0:22:11, 0:22:18]: Next week. We have selected a location at JP Moseley Park to install. [0:22:19, 0:22:25]: And and so we're excited about that. The tables are artistically decorated. Um they're not just plain tables. [0:22:25, 0:22:25]: Uh [0:22:26, 0:22:46]: tied to a tree. We actually select artists from the immediate area. So the stockbridge tables are decorated by a stockbridge artist or someone at least as as close to the area as as possible, and so on with Hampton and Locust Grove. And we hope to have the first 10 tables phase one [0:22:46, 0:22:52]: uh completed by March 17th. So 10 tables uh will be installed and there'll be a scavenger hunt. [0:22:53, 0:22:53]: Uh [0:22:54, 0:23:07]: for for the community to help the community engage by uh asking people to go discover the tables, find out where they are. We'll give little hints, but we're not telling people exactly where they are or exactly what each table looks like. [0:23:07, 0:23:23]: So the scavenger hunt will involve the public going and finding them, taking pictures of themselves or selfies and hopefully with squirrels there as well and posting those and and they can win prizes uh for discovering uh a certain amount of tables or all of the tables and and then we'll [0:23:24, 0:23:40]: release a map showing where they are to help engage with tourism. And the idea is to be able to promote local businesses and municipalities and art through this project. So that's where we are so far. [0:23:41, 0:23:51]: Hey, thank you, Greg. I think it's a really, really cute project and um I'm hoping that all of the cities will come on board, but Stockbridge is definitely behind it. [0:23:53, 0:24:13]: Okay, um Barber, um as you all saw in the chat, she did say that she had to leave the meeting. Um, and she told us prior to the meeting that that would probably happen. Um, so I wanted to just give you all um a quick um just the meeting date for the DDA will be March. [0:24:13, 0:24:32]: the 16th if you all are interested in attending. Um I will not be able to attend that particular meeting. I have another commitment outside of um work, but Lisa will be attending in my place to that meeting. So if anyone else is interested I'd encourage you. [0:24:32, 0:24:35]: to um attend the DDA meeting via Zoom. [0:24:36, 0:24:37]: On march the sixent. [0:24:38, 0:24:41]: And they start at um, is it six o'clock? [0:24:41, 0:24:43]: I think they start at six o'clock. [0:24:44, 0:24:44]: Okay. [0:24:45, 0:24:54]: Um any announcements? Um I see that um Anika had to leave, so I'm gonna just move on through the agenda. Any announcements? [0:24:57, 0:24:59]: Okay, seeing that there are none. [0:24:59, 0:25:01]: Um, I am going to [0:25:02, 0:25:03]: Um [0:25:03, 0:25:08]: go on and move that we adjourn because I don't have anything else to report. [0:25:09, 0:25:09]: [1510.0, 1515.6]: So I'd like to entertain a motion for um adjourning the meeting of the March twelfth. [0:25:15, 0:25:18]: Twenty twenty one Main Street Advisory Board meeting. [0:25:19, 0:25:20]: I motion to adjourn. [0:25:21, 0:25:22]: Okay, Shamarine. [0:25:23, 0:25:24]: Is there a second? [0:25:28, 0:25:31]: Second. Okay, great. [0:25:32, 0:25:37]: Okay, we stand adjourned. Our next meeting will be on April 9th. [0:25:38, 0:25:40]: At nine o'clock via Zoom. [0:25:41, 0:26:01]: Thank you, everybody. I really appreciate you all being available today. It's been a busy week, at least for the Main Street staff. And it seems like it's a really busy time for everyone else. Um, so enjoy your remainder of the day and the rest of your uh week. And we'll see you all again. [0:26:01, 0:26:02]: Again. Um [0:26:04, 0:26:05]: Next month [0:26:06, 0:26:09]: Enjoy the weather. Right. Yes. Enjoy the weather. [0:26:12, 0:26:13]: Mr. Thomas? [0:26:14, 0:26:15]: Mr. Thomas? [0:26:19, 0:26:23]: Yes, yes. Hey, how are you doing? I haven't seen you in forever. [0:26:25, 0:26:26]: Are you are you? [0:26:27, 0:26:28]: Calling on me. [0:26:28, 0:26:32]: Yes, I'm talking to you. I said I haven't seen you in forever. [0:26:32, 0:26:35]: I I'm I'm puzzled by that. [0:26:37, 0:26:38]: I've been here. [0:26:38, 0:26:46]: I know I'm just saying we haven't talked in a while. Oh, well, that that's that's true also. Are we are we adjoined? [0:26:46, 0:26:49]: Yeah, we're adjourned. Everybody's gone. We're not required.

--- title: March 8 2021 City Council Meeting Via Zoom date: 2021-03-08 source: 2021-03-08_March_8_2021_City_Council_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:00:16, 0:00:19]: I'm sorry. Webinar is now live. [0:01:01, 0:01:03]: You're muted, Mr. Mayor. [0:01:07, 0:01:11]: Vanessa, I'm sorry, I was muted myself. I need your help, Vanessa. [0:01:11, 0:01:13]: The sixteenth of March. [0:01:14, 0:01:22]: Which is actually the voting day. Is that only at uh the elections office or is that at several locations around the the county? [0:01:29, 0:01:32]: Okay. She must not be able to hear me. [0:01:35, 0:01:35]: Vanessa? [0:01:36, 0:01:37]: Maybe she can't hear me. [0:01:49, 0:01:52]: Councilman Thomas, how you doing, sir? Alrighty. [0:01:53, 0:01:57]: Ms. Gance on Vanessa, can you hear me? [0:02:13, 0:02:17]: She can't hear at the moment. I'm working with her now to fix that. Okay. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. [0:02:18, 0:02:19]: How you doing, Mr. Blount? [0:02:22, 0:02:24]: Hello, sir. Good evening, everyone. [0:03:04, 0:03:04]: Yeah. [0:03:18, 0:03:20]: And ladies and gentlemen, we are now live on Facebook as well. [0:03:40, 0:03:44]: Mr. Bond, is Vanessa's volume straightened out yet? [0:03:48, 0:03:51]: Not yet. I'm just not remote and search machine. Okay, thank you. [0:04:05, 0:04:25]: Okay, are you able to hear me now? Let me see if I can hear you, Mayor Ford. Absolutely, I can hear you. Okay, thank you. I hear you as well. Well, good deal. Uh I was trying to ask you earlier. Um on the 16th of March for the that's election day. Is that is that election only held at the registration office? [0:04:25, 0:04:27]: office of Madonna or do we have multiple sites around the county? [0:04:28, 0:04:36]: On election day, you go to your normal polling place. Okay. On election day. That that answers the question then. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Okay. [0:04:36, 0:04:40]: And on that note, I have uh six o'clock and [0:04:40, 0:04:44]: We have a quorum. Everybody is present. [0:04:44, 0:04:52]: Okay. So we just start I'm like to call this uh March eighth council meeting to order. I have six o'clock. [0:04:52, 0:04:57]: And uh invocation. Uh Councilwoman Gantt could you please give the invocation? [0:04:58, 0:05:00]: Yes, thank you. [0:05:00, 0:05:01]: Maybe bar heads. [0:05:04, 0:05:07]: Father God, we please give us strength and wisdom. [0:05:07, 0:05:09]: To guide our decisions. [0:05:10, 0:05:10]: And put [0:05:11, 0:05:13]: Our love for our city first. [0:05:14, 0:05:18]: Surround us with people from all walks of life and many backgrounds. [0:05:20, 0:05:25]: We ask that you be with us and allow us to make the right decisions. [0:05:25, 0:05:28]: not for ourselves, but for [0:05:28, 0:05:30]: The city of Stockbridge. [0:05:31, 0:05:32]: We pray for integrity. [0:05:33, 0:05:39]: that we have the best interest of the city of Stockbridge, our citizens, our country, and our nation. [0:05:40, 0:05:47]: Father God, we also ask that you pray for those families that have lost loved ones during this awful pandemic. [0:05:48, 0:05:50]: We pray that you grant us wisdom. [0:05:51, 0:05:52]: And keep us. [0:05:52, 0:05:54]: safe during these times. [0:05:55, 0:05:56]: In your name we pray. Amen. [0:05:57, 0:05:58]: Amen. [0:05:59, 0:06:00]: Amen. [0:06:00, 0:06:04]: Okay, pledge of allegiance. Uh please stand for pledge of allegiance, ladies and gentlemen. [0:06:07, 0:06:20]: Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic where it stands, nation, under God, undervisable, with liberty and justice for all. [0:06:23, 0:06:25]: Roll call, Madam Kirk, please. [0:06:29, 0:06:31]: Mayor Ford. Was it [0:06:32, 0:06:33]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:06:34, 0:06:34]: Where is it? [0:06:35, 0:06:36]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:06:37, 0:06:38]: Present. [0:06:38, 0:06:39]: Councilman Blount. [0:06:40, 0:06:40]: Present. [0:06:41, 0:06:42]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:06:43, 0:06:43]: Present. [0:06:43, 0:06:45]: Councilman Thomas. [0:06:45, 0:06:46]: Present. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: Mayor Ford, do you have a quorum? [0:06:48, 0:06:53]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:06:54, 0:06:56]: So moved. Is there a second? [0:06:58, 0:07:02]: Castleman Blount, second Zette, got his hand there. All in favor, please indicate. [0:07:03, 0:07:05]: Yeah, see you announced decision. Thank you very much. [0:07:06, 0:07:10]: What we have before you council, we have several different uh meeting minutes uh for approval. [0:07:11, 0:07:14]: The January eleventh uh meeting council work, excuse me, council uh [0:07:15, 0:07:17]: uh meeting on on January eleventh. [0:07:18, 0:07:23]: uh the actual um special call meeting on january fifteenth. [0:07:24, 0:07:35]: And then the council work session, which was on uh January twenty-sixth. If there are no changes to this, but these any of these agendas, or excuse me, any of these minutes, then I need a motion to approve them, please. [0:07:37, 0:07:41]: Oh move. Okay, Mayor Pro Tem second made that motion is a second. [0:07:41, 0:07:46]: Mr. Blount, do I see your hand second? Mr. Blount, second that again. All right, appreciate it. All in favor, please indicate. [0:07:47, 0:07:49]: All right, fantastic. All right. [0:07:50, 0:07:55]: What I have next, ladies and gentlemen, is a proclamation honoring Women's History Month, the month of March. [0:07:56, 0:08:02]: From the first settlers who came to our shores, from the first American Indian families who befriended them. [0:08:03, 0:08:06]: Men and women have worked together to build this nation. [0:08:06, 0:08:11]: Too often the women were unsung and sometimes the contributions were unnoticed. [0:08:11, 0:08:21]: But the achievements, leadership, courage, strength, and love of the women who built America was vital as that much of the men whose names we know so well. [0:08:22, 0:08:34]: This was President Jimmy Carter's message uh designating March second to March eighth, uh, nineteen eighty as National Women's History Week. This is a quote from him. I'll continue on to proclamation. [0:08:34, 0:08:39]: Whereas every year March is designated Women's History Month by presidential proclamation. [0:08:40, 0:09:00]: The month is set aside to honor women's contributions in American history. And whereas Women's History Month began as a local celebration in Santa Rosa, California, the Education Task Force of Sonoma County, California Commission on the Status of Women planned and executed a Women's History Week celebration of 1915. [0:09:00, 0:09:01]: Yeah. [0:09:01, 0:09:14]: The organizers selected the week of March 8th to correspond with International Women's Day. The movement spread across the country as other communities initiated their own Women's History Week celebrations the following year. [0:09:14, 0:09:25]: And whereas in February nineteen eighty, President Jimmy Carter issued the first presidential proclamation declaring the week of March eighth, nineteen eighty, as National Women's History Week. [0:09:26, 0:09:30]: And where subsequently presidents continue to proclaim in National H women's History Week. [0:09:31, 0:09:33]: In March until nineteen eighty seven. [0:09:33, 0:09:36]: When Congress passed public law one hundred dash nine. [0:09:36, 0:09:39]: Designating March as a women's history month. [0:09:39, 0:09:57]: And whereas the women's excuse me, whereas the National Women's History Alliance selects and publishes the yearly theme, the theme of Women's History Month for 2021 captures the spirit of these challenging times. Since many of the women's suffrage centennial celebrations originally scheduled for 2020 were curtailed. [0:09:57, 0:10:00]: The National Women's History Alliance is extending the annual theme. [0:10:01, 0:10:11]: For 2021, vigilant women of the vote, refusing to be silenced. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority invested in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:10:12, 0:10:17]: And on behalf of city council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda Barber, John Blount, Lakeesa Gantt and Afonso Thomas. [0:10:17, 0:10:36]: to hereby proclaim March twenty twenty one as Women's History Month in the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia. A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand on the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eighth day of March of our year of our Lord, two thousand twenty one. I signed this along with our clerk for Nessa Holliday. [0:10:36, 0:10:41]: Congratulations, lady. We what we wish you well and honor you this month. [0:10:41, 0:10:46]: Actually we should men we should honor them every day of every year, but they have their own special month as well. [0:10:46, 0:10:52]: On that note, um what we have next would be any type of public comments. [0:10:52, 0:10:56]: Uh Ms. Holliday, do we have any public comments at all? There are no public comments, sir. [0:10:56, 0:10:57]: Okay. [0:10:57, 0:11:00]: Uh so we have a public hearing. [0:11:00, 0:11:20]: And the public hearing deals the first one deals with council consideration to approve the final adoption of 2020 to 2025 short-term work program and capital improvement element SCWP slash CIE presented by Mr. Knight. Go ahead, sir, please. Yes, Mayor and Council. Uh thank you this evening. Uh this is the [0:11:20, 0:11:24]: um short term work program capital improvement element. [0:11:24, 0:11:30]: This document you've seen before, uh, you transmitted this uh back, I believe, in uh January. [0:11:30, 0:11:35]: to the Atlanta Regional Commission and then the Department of Community Affairs. [0:11:35, 0:11:38]: Uh the process is once you transmit it. [0:11:38, 0:11:43]: Uh they review it for completeness and they provide their approval. [0:11:44, 0:11:48]: Which they have. Uh nothing has changed. There was one item [0:11:48, 0:11:51]: on there where something got transposed and [0:11:51, 0:11:57]: It did not get uh the actual project name was not in there, but all of the funds were in there. That was a very minor change. [0:11:58, 0:12:00]: Which they asked us to make, I think it was more of a [0:12:00, 0:12:02]: Either a scriveners or typo error. [0:12:03, 0:12:08]: We've made that change uh and now the process is that you we request that you adopt it. [0:12:08, 0:12:11]: And it becomes a part. [0:12:11, 0:12:16]: of our updated uh annual short-term work program in CIE. [0:12:17, 0:12:37]: Uh thank you, sir. And this states is a public hearing. So obviously this is something that I need to open up, open and potentially close for any comments from the public if that's the case. So uh Mr. Uh Quentin, I believe that is what I need to do at this point, since it's a public hearing. And if that is the case, I'd like to open up this public hearing and reference. [0:12:37, 0:12:38]: two this um [0:12:38, 0:12:51]: the final adoption of the 2020 to 2025 short-term work program. So are there any comments from the citizens uh that may have a comment for any positive comments uh that you would want to say at this time. [0:12:52, 0:12:53]: Any anybody at all? [0:12:55, 0:12:56]: Yeah. [0:12:56, 0:12:58]: Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. Who's we spoke? [0:12:58, 0:13:14]: It might be helpful. We just, you know, we use a lot of jargon sometimes. The public might not actually know what this is. So it would be helpful maybe if the staff could give a brief summary of what's going on. Because I mean we say short-term work program, they might not know what this is. [0:13:15, 0:13:28]: All right. Well, thank you very much. I'm gonna go back to you, Mr. Mr. Knighton, for further explanation. Okay, sure. Thank you. Okay. Sure. The short-term work program and capital improvement element are essentially a part of an overall comprehensive plan. [0:13:28, 0:13:32]: which the uh city uh adopted a couple of years ago. [0:13:33, 0:13:41]: And basically, every year you provide an annual update to that comprehensive plan, short-term work program, and capital improvement element. All of the projects. [0:13:42, 0:13:46]: Infrastructure projects, public works projects, civic um projects. [0:13:46, 0:13:51]: uh should be a part of that overall uh short term work program and in CIE. [0:13:52, 0:14:04]: And basically it's a five-year window and it provides an estimated funding amount and funding source of how those projects are going to be planned and how those projects are going to be paid for. [0:14:04, 0:14:08]: Something that's done annually. It's required by ARC Atlanta Regional Commission. [0:14:09, 0:14:12]: And then the Department of Community Affairs, DCA, will review it. [0:14:13, 0:14:16]: Uh, which they've done. Uh they've provided their approval. [0:14:16, 0:14:19]: And now the process is that it comes back for actual adoption. [0:14:20, 0:14:28]: Um, it is a guide for us as we go forward uh with the capital projects, infrastructure projects, how they're going to be funded. [0:14:28, 0:14:30]: Via splast, via general fund. [0:14:30, 0:14:33]: Um, beer other mechanisms, bonding, grants, etcetera. [0:14:36, 0:14:36]: Thank you, sir. [0:14:37, 0:14:57]: Um okay. I'd like to go back to the phone to open up the public hearing. If there are any questions for any um citizens that or concerns they may have, or I'll say open it up and any comments for uh this particular uh program, yeah, for this for us to approve this night. Any any comments for any citizens? And uh I [0:14:58, 0:15:18]: I don't see anything at this point. Okay. If there are any comments against this particular program for the next five years, the projects that we have. Any any comments against? Once again, I don't see any. So since I don't see any for or against, then um I will close the public hearing and I'll take this to the council for. [0:15:18, 0:15:23]: or any type of concerns they may have and or a motion to accept the this process. [0:15:24, 0:15:25]: Yes, Mayor Pro Tem. [0:15:27, 0:15:29]: You're you're muted, may I protect? [0:15:29, 0:15:49]: Thank you. Sorry about that now. I just want to say briefly to the public so you understand thoroughly what we're talking about here. Uh projects like uh the amphitheater, the culture arts center, uh, the youth senior recreation center. This city has endeavored and we have put together a comprehensive plan to spell out. [0:15:49, 0:16:06]: uh all of the projects uh in intense in in intense form so that we can uh have a plan for the city. Um uh miss maybe Mr. Knight might better add a little bit more to that. We uh actually passed our first uh independent uh [0:16:06, 0:16:26]: uh comprehensive plan in the history of the city. We previously did this uh in coordination with Henry County, but uh we wanted to have a detailed plan and we put that together uh for the city to make sure that we charted the course. So you know the public wants to understand that sometimes they say, well we don't we don't understand where this coming from. [0:16:26, 0:16:27]: What that comes? [0:16:28, 0:16:31]: Take a look at what it is that we have on our comprehensive plan. [0:16:32, 0:16:35]: And you can see where the vision is for the city. [0:16:36, 0:16:39]: Thank you, appreciate that. Any any other comments from yes uh [0:16:39, 0:16:45]: Councilman Gantt go ahead. Councilman Gantt clear, please. Well, before I make a motion, I want to um [0:16:45, 0:16:58]: But Miss Braggs is trying to get on. I need IT to know she's trying to get on. She's on the outside comp trying to get in. Um, I would like to make a motion to approve this for the on this item on the agenda tonight. [0:16:59, 0:17:00]: Okay, is there a second? [0:17:01, 0:17:05]: Sorry, uh miss I got Miss Barber, uh Council one barber, I saw her hand. [0:17:06, 0:17:09]: Okay. Any further she seconds that any further conversation? [0:17:10, 0:17:12]: Yes. Yes, uh Councilman Blanc, go ahead, please. [0:17:12, 0:17:18]: Mayor, I also want the um the public to to be aware that when we talk about [0:17:18, 0:17:23]: A comprehensive plan for the city and the direction we would like the city the city to go. [0:17:23, 0:17:39]: Uh besides that, in that direction, we're also gonna be uh taxed with having a plan in place versus funding and how we move about doing these projects and bringing this to fruition uh pertaining to the comprehensive plan. [0:17:40, 0:17:53]: This doesn't say that. This is just showing the vision of what we want to do with the city. Uh by no means this is in agreement to anything we've done for as funding for these projects or any of this plan. I just want to make that clear. [0:17:55, 0:17:57]: All right, sir. Appreciate that. Any other comments from the council at all? [0:17:58, 0:18:04]: Okay, seeing none. So okay, we have a motion on the floor. It's been a motion is made by Ms. Gantt, second by um [0:18:04, 0:18:11]: Uh uh Councilman Barber. Uh Councilman Barber, second that. As so if no further discussion, all favor motion, please indicate. [0:18:12, 0:18:14]: Okay, you now see thank you very much. Okay. [0:18:15, 0:18:17]: We'll move on. Once again, this is a public hearing. [0:18:17, 0:18:33]: Next topic, council consideration to prove uh rezoning case RZ 2020-02. Applicant Neil Cobell uh requests the rezoning of certain property from RA residential architectural articultural. [0:18:33, 0:18:36]: district to our three single family residential district. [0:18:37, 0:18:40]: To allow for the development of a single family residential subdivision. [0:18:41, 0:18:44]: The property is located in land lot twenty nine of district seven. [0:18:44, 0:18:47]: Within the Starbury city limits along the southeast corner. [0:18:48, 0:19:07]: of Brandon Road and North Selman uh uh uh Salem Road Drive. It contains 73.71 total acres, which previously consisted of five parcels. The Planning Commission approved the recombination of the five parcels to form just one parcel at its last meeting on December 17, 2020. [0:19:07, 0:19:13]: This occurred via recombination plant case RC dash 2020-03. [0:19:13, 0:19:33]: Which had the same applicant as the rezoning the rezoning case. For the record, the parcels were as follows: 732 Brandon Road, parcel uh 088-02049000, 664 Brandon Road, parcel 00, excuse me, 088. [0:19:33, 0:19:37]: Zero two zero five zero zero zero zero. [0:19:37, 0:19:57]: Um 618 Brandon Road parcel 088 Dash 02051000 Large parcel on Brandon Road Um parcel 00 excuse me zero eight eight zero two zero four nine zero zero five a small parcel on North Salem Drive parcel [0:19:57, 0:20:00]: zero eight eight that's zero two zero. [0:20:00, 0:20:02]: Flour four five zero zero zero. [0:20:02, 0:20:06]: And this is going to be presented tonight by Mr. Knighton, please. [0:20:09, 0:20:21]: Yes, Mayor Ford, thank you. Um Linda Logan, the senior planner, is on. I will allow her to go through a presentation that will speak to uh the proposal in more detail, including. [0:20:21, 0:20:40]: Some aerial photographs, location maps, and also uh relevant items in the staff report, including the staff recommendation. So I'll turn it over to Linda and I believe she will be sharing her screen to provide a presentation to the panel here and to the viewing audience as well. [0:20:49, 0:20:51]: Linda, you may need to unmute Linda. [0:20:51, 0:20:52]: Thank you, muted. [0:21:03, 0:21:05]: Linda, I believe you're muted. [0:21:07, 0:21:09]: Here we go. Is that better? Right. Yes, thank you. [0:21:10, 0:21:30]: Okay, everyone can see this now. So this is the cover page here. Um proposal to to rezone a property from RA Residential Agricultural to R3 Single Family Uh Residential. And this was presented to the Planning Commission on February 25 recently, and then here we are tonight on March. [0:21:30, 0:21:30]: March eight. [0:21:31, 0:21:33]: So first to show uh [0:21:34, 0:21:37]: where the property is located. This is a city zoning map. [0:21:37, 0:21:57]: And the property is down here in the southeast corner. This uh yellow parcel here. I have a couple of enlargements. I'm sure everyone's probably familiar with the area. I'll just go through this quickly. It's this um parcel here and even further here, and it shows the it how it was used to be the five parcels as you can see. [0:21:57, 0:22:01]: see here. This will this here is an existing cell tower that is to remain. [0:22:02, 0:22:13]: Here's an aerial photograph of the area. We have Brandon Road straight up and down and North Salem Drive here. And that's where the cell tower is. And then the property is in this area. [0:22:16, 0:22:20]: We have uh some enlargements in this aerial photo here. [0:22:20, 0:22:25]: Uh I'll just go through these quickly. It shows all the surrounding parcels. [0:22:25, 0:22:27]: Okay, this was um [0:22:28, 0:22:33]: discussed more during the recombination. The applicant submitted this survey of the property. [0:22:34, 0:22:52]: Uh here is an aerial photo of the surrounding area. Brandon Road is is here in the center. Here's the part subject parcel. We have Clark Meadows subdivision across the street, Moss Point subdivision, Summit at Eagles Landing here, Highlands at Eagles Landing. [0:22:52, 0:22:53]: Um [0:22:53, 0:22:55]: Is a summit uh [0:22:55, 0:23:04]: Uh Westminster subdivision over in this area, these are in the in the county outside of city limits. Crown Walk, Mount Most Point. [0:23:05, 0:23:25]: Uh let's see. So again, rezoning request um is by Neil Koble, uh Developers Liberty Communities. We have a traffic engineer, uh Mark Akampora, attorney's battle law. Um, so the request is rezone the uh the property is said from RA to R3. The proposed name is [0:23:24, 0:23:37]: the reserve at Hickory Hills. Those are the five parcels that were listed. Signs were posted last year. This case was deferred a couple of times by the Planning Commission. [0:23:37, 0:23:43]: Um and two private community meetings were held on January twenty-first and February eighteenth. [0:23:46, 0:24:06]: Okay, we've covered some of this already. So surrounding zoning, um Clark Meadows subdivision across the street, zone PD plan development. That's an old category. The city no longer has that, but at that time included R3 and R3. So Clark Meadows is a combination of those two zoning districts. [0:24:06, 0:24:21]: Moss Point adjacent to it, zone R2, and we have some RA districts around it. The future land use map shows low density residential for this site. It allows 1.5 to two units per acre. [0:24:22, 0:24:30]: Um, there were no previous rezoning cases that were found. Um, where the cell tower is located was annexed in the city in 2004. [0:24:31, 0:24:44]: The R3 district and purpose it allows smaller lots as plant part of a planned development as long as it has public sewer. There is not public sewer there now, but the developer plans to extend it to the site. [0:24:44, 0:24:51]: Minimum lot requirements at least 12,000 square feet and um overall size is 75 feet wide. [0:24:52, 0:24:57]: And for each uh lot, minimum house size is 1050 square feet. [0:24:58, 0:25:02]: Uh the property has a floodplain near the center of the property. [0:25:03, 0:25:12]: Um, there are rural and agricultural uses surrounding it. Here's a few of the signs that we posted on property. This one's at North Salem Drive. [0:25:13, 0:25:17]: Um this one's near near the cell tower. [0:25:18, 0:25:24]: There's a silo on the property just as a reference. The further down the street, this one's across from Moss Point subdivision. [0:25:25, 0:25:27]: Here is the latest site plan that the [0:25:28, 0:25:42]: uh developer the applicant has submitted to us this is br Brandon road here up and down uh for reference spray berry drive comes comes in here north salem drive up here at the top um [0:25:42, 0:25:55]: There is uh floodplain areas here in the center. So the main access point or the only access point would be here. Now this is uh south of Spray Ray Drive, so around the center of the property. [0:25:55, 0:25:59]: Okay, I'll go be going into some more detail about that. [0:25:59, 0:26:16]: Um this is just a general um view of how it might look from the air with the two two um amenate areas proposed. One have an existing pond in the southwest corner, there'd be amenities here, and then some other amenities here in the center. [0:26:19, 0:26:35]: All right, here's an enlargement of the entrance area, Brandon Road. It would be a boulevard style divided and there would be turn lanes here provided on on Brandon Road. There would be some plantings and the monument sign. [0:26:35, 0:26:36]: Um [0:26:36, 0:26:38]: Here at the corner. [0:26:38, 0:26:39]: Oh. [0:26:40, 0:26:52]: All right. One other thing I want to mention back here on the site plan, very important. These 11 lots here fronting on Brandon Road, starting here from this corner lot, from here. [0:26:53, 0:26:58]: Down here into the corner, these eleven lots, they would all have at least fifteen thousand square feet. [0:26:59, 0:27:05]: a front of John to Brandon Road, the same as what is in the most point subdivision across the street. [0:27:07, 0:27:27]: Okay, so as I said, acceleration decelerations, the lanes would be provided at the entrance. Um, I mentioned about the 11 lots. A homeowners association would maintain the common areas, amenities, and landscaping along Brandon Road. There would be 50-foot-wide buffer surrounding the property and a fence at the northern property line. Um [0:27:27, 0:27:39]: Henry County Water Authority said water service is available, but the developer would be required to extend a sewer line to the site and that easements might need to be obtained. [0:27:40, 0:28:00]: All right, this is an enlargement of um some information on a site plan. There would be 139 unit lots and 139 uh units of houses, minimum lot width 75 feet, minimum lot area 12,000 square feet. The average lot area 14,086. So this is more. [0:28:00, 0:28:08]: More than the minimum lot size of 12,000, there would be some lots, 12,000, but there would also be some that would be much larger. [0:28:09, 0:28:17]: Uh 20,000 or so uh square feet. Minimum front setback 50 feet, side yard setback 10 feet, rear 40 feet. [0:28:19, 0:28:30]: Uh the density, gross density, 1.89 units per acre. Uh net density. Now this is accounting for the floodplain areas where they cannot build on 3.09. [0:28:30, 0:28:33]: Опан спас almost twenty acres. [0:28:33, 0:28:37]: Um okay, total site area about 73 acres. [0:28:37, 0:28:42]: And net developable area net developable area about 45 acres. [0:28:44, 0:28:53]: Some of this I've covered already. Let's see. So 139 lots. Yeah, the home sizes applicant proposes to build 2,000 square foot homes. [0:28:54, 0:29:02]: Even though um district allows homes that are about half of that size, uh 1050 remember is the minimum um [0:29:02, 0:29:03]: Requirement. [0:29:04, 0:29:21]: Average lot size 14,086. Some lots would have 12,000. About half would have be be between 15 and 20,000. I mentioned about the 11 lots and also the uh sizes of all the lots, the uh width, width and and so forth. [0:29:22, 0:29:42]: Here's a diagram that the applicant provided to show a comparison of the lot sizes of this proposed subdivision, Hickory Hills, versus what exists at the Clark Meadows across the street. This first diagram shows Hickory Hills, and they would have proposed lot size, the minimum 12,000. [0:29:41, 0:30:01]: Square feet. Remember, some would be bigger, and there would be 20 feet in between the homes. Over here we have existing in Clark Meadows subdivision, a minimum size, lot size, only 7,500 square feet, and only 10 feet between homes. So we superimpose. [0:30:01, 0:30:02]: [1802.9, 1809.7]: the Hickory Hill subdivision on top of Clark Meadows. You see the difference here. I don't know what just happened. [0:30:10, 0:30:11]: Uh the green is the [0:30:12, 0:30:16]: Proposed subdivision and then the pink is is Clark Meadows. [0:30:19, 0:30:30]: All right, the amenities again community center will be located in the center. We would have a swimming pool with a shade structure, pavilion, open lawn area, walking trail, playground, a fire pit. [0:30:31, 0:30:34]: Plus a parking lot with forty seven parking spaces. [0:30:34, 0:30:38]: Um I'll show that in a moment and a pond area, pond amenity area. [0:30:39, 0:30:40]: At the southwest corner. [0:30:40, 0:30:41]: Um would have [0:30:42, 0:30:45]: Walking trail, pavilion, boachy ball courts, a fire print. [0:30:45, 0:30:47]: Pit and a male kiosk. [0:30:48, 0:30:51]: Okay, all homes would have brick on all four sides. [0:30:53, 0:30:54]: Okay. [0:30:54, 0:31:00]: This is an enlargement of the community center amenities near the center of the property. [0:31:00, 0:31:04]: Again, it would have open lawn, pavilion, fire playground. [0:31:04, 0:31:05]: Cool. [0:31:05, 0:31:09]: Uh a two thousand square feet and shade structure and in the parking area. [0:31:10, 0:31:10]: Here. [0:31:13, 0:31:24]: This is an enlargement of the pond area amenities. Um it would have a walking trail uh from here toward the pond, which has a [0:31:24, 0:31:25]: Has a dock on it. [0:31:27, 0:31:28]: Uh existing wetlands. [0:31:29, 0:31:33]: Uh would have a pavilion, fire print, the boche ball courts and a male kiosk. [0:31:34, 0:31:36]: Here's a photograph showing um [0:31:37, 0:31:42]: An idea of what everything would look like, the proposed sign called the reserve at Hickory Hills. [0:31:43, 0:31:44]: And um [0:31:44, 0:31:57]: The community center here, these are plantings along the street on Brandon Road and some sample types of trees, bald cypress, cypress, cherry largo, laurel, cherry laurel, cryptomeria, and [0:31:58, 0:31:58]: It's um [0:31:59, 0:32:00]: Cedar and Magnolia. [0:32:01, 0:32:04]: This is what uh playground might look like. [0:32:06, 0:32:09]: And what the fire pits might look like. [0:32:10, 0:32:13]: And this is a picture of a boat boche ball court. [0:32:15, 0:32:18]: Okay, now a traffic impact study was prepared. [0:32:18, 0:32:27]: uh recently by Mark Ankopura, um uh PE traffic engineer on January twenty. That's just uh [0:32:27, 0:32:28]: Cover page. [0:32:29, 0:32:35]: Some of the findings of the study. Now this was based on the originally proposed 147 new homes. [0:32:36, 0:32:48]: Um, traffic counts were taken on January 7 at the proposed subdivision entrance during morning and afternoon peak hours, and two intersection analyses were made at Brandon Road and North Salem Drive. [0:32:49, 0:32:51]: And also Brandon Rhoda Spray Ray Drive. [0:32:52, 0:32:55]: Adjustment factors were made to account for [0:32:55, 0:32:58]: The pandemic and school not being open right now. [0:32:58, 0:33:11]: And also taking into consideration county and state requirements, planned transportation improvements. Um, that includes uh widening of highway 42 from downtown Mc McDonald uh through this area. [0:33:12, 0:33:15]: And uh travel pattern changes in the foreseeable future. [0:33:16, 0:33:17]: Due to the pandemic. [0:33:17, 0:33:30]: So the study said that existing traffic operations of vicinity were excellent, including intersection turning movements. Traffic volume growth has been minimal and is this is expected to continue. [0:33:30, 0:33:44]: Um, the subdivision was expected to generate 109 new morning peak hour trips and 147 afternoon peak hour trips, total of 1482. Now remember this was based on the 147 homes originally. [0:33:45, 0:33:50]: Only minor traffic increases intersection delays are expected due to subdivision. [0:33:51, 0:33:59]: Um Henry County and Georgia DOT would require that acceleration decelerations would be installed, and a site plan is already showing that. [0:33:59, 0:34:05]: And no other improvement traffic improvements are needed now or in the near future after subdivision is built. [0:34:06, 0:34:21]: This is a staff analysis, suitability of proposed subdivision. So we said that it's unlikely, and this information is in our staff report, it's unlikely that the property would develop into additional rural, residential, or agricultural uses due to its location. [0:34:22, 0:34:29]: Subdivision would be a reasonable use of the property due to the proximity of several other subdivisions adjacent to and surrounding the property. [0:34:30, 0:34:34]: Subdivision would meet the density requirements of the property's future land use plan. [0:34:34, 0:34:37]: Now so far as the suitability of the requested R three district. [0:34:38, 0:34:50]: So applicant would be able to develop the subdivision under R3 by if a sewer line is extended to the property according to the Henry County Water Authority's requirements. [0:34:50, 0:35:00]: And R three would allow the subdivision to have lots that are similar and comparable to lot sizes in Clark Meadows and Moss Point subdivisions, which already have a sewer lines. [0:35:01, 0:35:12]: uh propos suitability of proposed site plan. It would have a traditional design. There'd be no secondary access on North Salem Road, which um has very curvy, narrow, narrow road. [0:35:12, 0:35:17]: Uh the pond would be preserved and be a focal point for some amenities. [0:35:18, 0:35:23]: And the applicants proposing build many larger lots and larger homes than are required by R three. [0:35:24, 0:35:28]: About half the lots would have the minimum required size of twelve thousand square feet. [0:35:28, 0:35:36]: 11 lots along Brandon Road would have at least 15,000 square feet, and this would be compatible with the lots in Clark Meadows across the street. [0:35:37, 0:35:40]: All of the homes would have at least two thousand square feet. [0:35:40, 0:35:45]: making them almost double the of what the R three district requires, which is a thousand fifty. [0:35:45, 0:35:52]: Uh as far as impacts on pre adjacent properties, we're recommending a fence be installed along the northern property line. [0:35:54, 0:36:02]: Impacts on public schools. Um, the applicant did obtain a letter from Henry County Schools, McDonald District on October the 5th. [0:36:02, 0:36:10]: And uh they based uh their calculations on two students per residence and 25 students per classroom. [0:36:10, 0:36:23]: If there was 139 homes, 11 classrooms would be needed to serve an estimated 278 new students. However, cost of new classrooms would likely be offset by additional school taxes that subdivision residents would pay. [0:36:24, 0:36:31]: uh impacts on adjacent street. So the applicants, the trafficking study projects excellent traffic conditions, as I mentioned. [0:36:32, 0:36:40]: Uh turn lanes would be required, and the site plan is showing that. We recommend sidewalks be installed on at least one side of each street, internal street. [0:36:41, 0:36:43]: And as I said, uh waters is [0:36:44, 0:36:47]: sufficient of the site, but the sewer line needs to be extended. [0:36:48, 0:37:08]: Uh staff recommendations. I'm not gonna read all this, but it's here if you want to refer to it later. I'll just briefly mention a few things. We're recommending approval of request R3 zoning based on the following conditions. The site plan that the last latest site plan that was submitted, we're calling it a site plan number four that I showed showed before. [0:37:08, 0:37:08]: Four. [0:37:09, 0:37:12]: Um have some conditions here regarding the subdivision design. [0:37:13, 0:37:16]: The landscape design, these are all things that I already mentioned. [0:37:17, 0:37:18]: And um [0:37:18, 0:37:23]: Architectural design. I'll just stress that all homes should have a two-car garage at a minimum. [0:37:24, 0:37:28]: They should have be at least 2,000 square feet, have brick on all four sides. [0:37:29, 0:37:34]: and and have Xteries which further comply with the architectural standards in the zoning code. [0:37:35, 0:37:40]: And uh finally the res guarding procedural manners manners, the applicant will [0:37:41, 0:37:45]: Need to submit a subdivision application after this if this rezoning is approved. [0:37:46, 0:37:51]: And um then it will have plat will have to be recorded with the with the um county. [0:37:51, 0:37:58]: before any land disturbance or building permits may be issued. And there is a 18 period 18 month time limit. [0:37:59, 0:38:02]: uh uh for this project to um [0:38:02, 0:38:08]: uh to be built uh in order to retain this zoning classification if if the council chooses. [0:38:09, 0:38:10]: Are there any questions? [0:38:15, 0:38:21]: Thank you, Linda, for the presentation. Councilman, any questions? Yeah, Councilman Barber, you have a question for her. [0:38:21, 0:38:22]: Yes. [0:38:22, 0:38:23]: [2304.8, 2318.6]: A quick question. All the points you mentioned was the suggestion for sidewalks installed only on one side of the street. Is that based on the city's current um standards? [0:38:40, 0:38:46]: Well, we're saying that that's the minimum. I mean, we'd like to see it on both sides. Right. [0:38:46, 0:38:47]: Okay. [0:38:47, 0:38:48]: So [0:38:49, 0:38:53]: Do you know if this proposal will include sidewalks on both sides? [0:38:56, 0:39:00]: Uh, maybe the applicant would like to address that. I'm not [0:39:01, 0:39:03]: Is the applicant on? Of course. [0:39:06, 0:39:26]: Yes, this is a Michelle Battle with Battle Law, one West Court Square, Decatur, Georgia, 30030. Currently the site plan does show um sidewalks on only one side of the street because it was our understanding that that was what the requirement was. Um to the extent that um the city council would require. [0:39:25, 0:39:37]: uh sidewalks on both sides of the street. I'm sure that we will have to absorb that request, but um we had laid this out sidewalks only on one side based on the um current requirements of the city. [0:39:39, 0:39:44]: I certainly would would like to see sidewalks on both sides of the streets. That's just my opinion. [0:39:45, 0:39:46]: Yes, ma'am. [0:39:46, 0:39:47]: That's all I had. [0:39:48, 0:39:53]: Sure. And Michelle, also if you'd like to point out the sidewalks that we agreed to along the frontage. [0:39:54, 0:40:05]: Yes, we will also have um sidewalks along Brandon Road, um where we will be installing sidewalks um at the the width required by the city. [0:40:05, 0:40:08]: And the width is what what is what width do you rec recall that being? [0:40:09, 0:40:17]: Um I know that we had proposed and had been discussed to have a ten foot, I think it was a um to eight to ten foot width. [0:40:17, 0:40:21]: um sidewalks it would be more of a uh uh multi trail. [0:40:21, 0:40:22]: Yes, yeah. [0:40:23, 0:40:26]: And that's only along the Brandon Road as you're referring to? [0:40:26, 0:40:29]: Yes. And then we would have the internal sidewalk as well. [0:40:30, 0:40:32]: And internal sidewalks will be how wide? [0:40:33, 0:40:34]: Um [0:40:35, 0:40:39]: I think we have our whatever I believe they're fo I believe they're four feet wide. [0:40:41, 0:40:41]: C [0:40:43, 0:40:46]: Ms. Barber, you were done with your questions, Ms. Barber, at this point? [0:40:46, 0:40:58]: Actually I have um several questions to ask. Um but keeping with the sidewalks, um not really um supporting of the four feet sidewalk, if we can [0:40:58, 0:41:01]: Increase that that would be great. And to install [0:41:01, 0:41:05]: Two sidewalks per street on both sides. [0:41:05, 0:41:05]: Um [0:41:06, 0:41:11]: One other question I have and I don't know if the applicant was gonna do a presentation or not. [0:41:13, 0:41:14]: They should. [0:41:15, 0:41:15]: Yes. [0:41:15, 0:41:18]: Okay, well I'll hold questions until after. [0:41:19, 0:41:28]: Mayor Pro Tem uh Alexandra, go ahead, please. Yeah, this time should be reserved uh for staff questioning. I hope the applicant will begin and the uh those opposed. [0:41:29, 0:41:31]: will be given time to actually [0:41:31, 0:41:43]: I'll I'll I'll open up I'll open up the public meeting and and a uh public hearing in in a bit. They'll get the opportunity to speak. But go ahead with you. So what we need to do in this, uh Ms. Barber, is that we need to add that condition. [0:41:44, 0:41:47]: That uh both sides of the street have sidewalks, so certainly [0:41:47, 0:41:57]: uh I would support that. So that need to be an additional additional condition uh that we would add uh to this development to make sure that there are sidewalks [0:41:57, 0:42:01]: uh on both sides of the street. That is uh what the recommendation is. [0:42:01, 0:42:03]: And uh Miss Logan, a couple of questions. [0:42:03, 0:42:10]: Uh, so the public understands it is mandated now that they have a mail kiosk right by the post office. [0:42:13, 0:42:22]: And not check into those requirements. They've just shown a a kiosk uh male kiosk there. Of course they'd have to meet the city sign regulations. [0:42:23, 0:42:30]: Right. I thought there was a federal regulation that that the post office now was not issuing individual mailboxes any longer. [0:42:30, 0:42:33]: That they were issuing kiosks. That's a mandate, I believe. [0:42:34, 0:42:36]: I don't know. That's true. That that is true. [0:42:38, 0:42:48]: Okay. Uh so so that is not a decision that uh anybody would make'cause certainly I would make that a condition if they could get individual mailboxes, I certainly would request that. [0:42:48, 0:42:54]: But uh through the code now, the post office now is mandating that to make it easier on the mail delivery. [0:42:54, 0:42:58]: Uh whether w if you don't like that, we probably need to take that up with uh [0:42:59, 0:43:12]: with uh your congressman is or someone uh in Washington to see if we can get that change back because I know some of the residents are gonna be disappointed by that, but that is uh what the ruling is uh at this particular time. [0:43:13, 0:43:15]: Uh in terms of um [0:43:15, 0:43:23]: The total overall the staff is recommending approval of this at this point. And how did it was initial was the initial recommendation approval? [0:43:25, 0:43:38]: Um in the beginning we um suggested maybe R2 because of a smaller because it would um require larger LUTs, but the applicant has changed the site plan to [0:43:38, 0:43:50]: to uh make the those 11 lots along Brandon Road larger in order to make them compatible with the Clark Meadows subdivision across the street and also some other larger other lots. [0:43:50, 0:43:53]: on the property to be larger as well. So [0:43:53, 0:43:55]: So therefore we [0:43:55, 0:43:57]: feel more comfortable with that. [0:43:58, 0:44:07]: Okay. Even though the even though they're requesting R three to allow some lots to have the minimum twelve thousand, that there are at least half the lots would be larger than that. [0:44:08, 0:44:09]: Okay. [0:44:09, 0:44:15]: Now I did notice that, you know, in the R two we were I would think that we would want to have a requirement in there. [0:44:15, 0:44:18]: On the actual lot size in terms of uh [0:44:19, 0:44:20]: The larger home size. [0:44:20, 0:44:23]: I know what the uh Arthur will pr will permit. [0:44:24, 0:44:26]: But I think we probably need to go to [0:44:26, 0:44:30]: uh a home size maybe uh about twenty five hundred square feet [0:44:30, 0:44:32]: So I m there may be a condition. [0:44:33, 0:44:36]: that would uh come up. Uh that would that we would have to add that as a condition. [0:44:38, 0:44:39]: Um [0:44:40, 0:44:56]: Let me see as far as the sizes of the houses. So here it says all homes shall have a minimum of 2,000 square feet. Remember that that the requirements are only 1,050 square feet, but we're saying they should have be at least 2,000 square feet. [0:44:57, 0:45:01]: Right. I just think we need to make that a little larger to maybe twenty five hundred. [0:45:01, 0:45:02]: So that um [0:45:02, 0:45:05]: You know, the homes are equivalent. I've heard a lot of that from [0:45:05, 0:45:08]: Uh, the surrounding community and we want to be very sensitive. [0:45:09, 0:45:13]: You know, we've been listening to a lot of what's been coming back from the community. [0:45:13, 0:45:17]: And uh, you know, uh this builder has been willing to [0:45:17, 0:45:19]: uh make some adjustment so [0:45:19, 0:45:23]: I think we just need to bump that number up a little bit more uh to be inclusive, but [0:45:24, 0:45:26]: Uh w that would be another condition that uh [0:45:27, 0:45:28]: We may have to add so. [0:45:28, 0:45:31]: Uh that may be a part of what's coming up, so we'll see. [0:45:34, 0:45:38]: Councillor, you you any more uh Mareportem? No, no. [0:45:46, 0:45:48]: Yeah, muteful mu [0:45:50, 0:45:56]: I'll tell you what, okay, thank you. The snake would probably bit me, right? Anyway, thank you very much for that. Uh Councilwoman Gantt [0:45:56, 0:45:59]: Uh go ahead, please. Thank you. Um [0:45:59, 0:46:02]: You mentioned that prior you recommended R2. [0:46:05, 0:46:11]: Um yes because Councilwoman Councilwoman Gantt, you're muted now. Thank you, sorry. You mentioned um [0:46:12, 0:46:16]: that initially the city recommended R two. [0:46:17, 0:46:21]: Can't you let the citizens and l the difference between R two and R three? [0:46:21, 0:46:37]: So R2 requires thirty thousand square foot lots, much larger. And it was our understanding that there was no way developer could meet that. So I guess as a compromise, like I said a few minutes ago, they agreed to to [0:46:37, 0:46:38]: Um [0:46:38, 0:46:48]: have stay with the R three but have lot quite a few lots be larger than the minimum of twelve thousand. So we felt more comfortable that there would be [0:46:49, 0:46:54]: um larger lots than not not just twelve thousand all the way around, but other larger lots. [0:46:55, 0:46:58]: And why couldn't the R three, R two be met? [0:46:59, 0:47:08]: Um, I I get the applicant would I need to answer that. They g as I said it's thirty thousand square foot lots, much larger. My understanding that would not have been financially feasible. [0:47:09, 0:47:29]: Um actually the reason um council member for the um smaller lot size is that the 30,000 square foot lot um was designed for lots that were on septic. Um we are not on septic, that is one of the conditions, um, and therefore the larger lot size was not um needed. Um we asked [0:47:29, 0:47:42]: for the R3 because we are actually bringing sewer into this community. So it's only the communities that did not have sewer that required that 30,000 square foot lot. [0:47:43, 0:47:46]: Oh thank you, um attorney battle. [0:47:46, 0:47:47]: Ms. Logan [0:47:48, 0:47:53]: What are the what are the carp meadows across the street? What is it zoned for? [0:47:54, 0:47:54]: Yeah. [0:47:54, 0:48:13]: So it has um a combination uh it was PD zone PD plan development. That's a um category that city doesn't use anymore. It was uh it was deleted for some reason, but but under the umbrella of PD, uh Clark Meadows had two um [0:48:14, 0:48:19]: zoning classifications had R2 and R three and um so [0:48:20, 0:48:24]: Um larger lots in the R two, smaller in R three. So it has both of them. [0:48:25, 0:48:25]: Okay. [0:48:27, 0:48:27]: And [0:48:30, 0:48:38]: You mentioned that the Planning Commission postponed this several times. Can you give me your let me know why this was postponed several times? [0:48:39, 0:48:44]: Originally it went to the planning commission uh in November and [0:48:45, 0:48:48]: I think the planning commission needed more more information. [0:48:49, 0:48:51]: Um it w we then presented it. [0:48:51, 0:48:53]: In December. [0:48:53, 0:48:55]: Um but then in December. [0:48:56, 0:48:56]: Um [0:48:57, 0:48:59]: They decided that um [0:49:00, 0:49:12]: The applicant decided to do two things. Number one, get a traffic study prepared, uh, which they did. And secondly, to hold two uh private uh community meetings with the citizens, which they did. [0:49:13, 0:49:18]: Does that traffic study reflect um weekend traffic? [0:49:20, 0:49:22]: I don't believe so. Uh maybe the um [0:49:23, 0:49:25]: Traffic engineer can go into more detail about that. [0:49:26, 0:49:30]: Doesn't matter. I think traffic is more heavier during the week than it is on the weekend probably, but [0:49:31, 0:49:34]: I think it's a that's just me. Um [0:49:35, 0:49:36]: And [0:49:38, 0:49:42]: You said there are eleven lights fronting Brennan Road. [0:49:42, 0:49:44]: That will have the fifteen thousand square feet. [0:49:46, 0:49:47]: Um [0:49:47, 0:49:51]: What other lots will have 15,000 square feet? [0:49:52, 0:49:53]: If any. [0:49:54, 0:50:02]: Wow, some of these lots in the back, you can see by looking at them the some of the larger lots here in the cul-de-sac at the back. [0:50:02, 0:50:04]: And some of these in here. [0:50:05, 0:50:07]: Um do we have a number? [0:50:08, 0:50:10]: A number, let's see. This [0:50:12, 0:50:13]: Um [0:50:16, 0:50:20]: So the our average lot size would be fourteen thousand eighty six. [0:50:21, 0:50:22]: Um [0:50:23, 0:50:26]: Let me see if I had those numbers in here. [0:50:32, 0:50:33]: Don't have a number. [0:50:34, 0:50:37]: But it was there was about half. I remember I remember counting. [0:50:38, 0:50:43]: I remember counting on the site plan and there was about half of them were bigger than twelve thousand. [0:50:44, 0:50:44]: Okay. [0:50:45, 0:50:51]: I don't have any further questions for right now, but I'm sure I'll have more on once the presentation's complete. [0:50:51, 0:50:55]: I'd like to see example of the homes and everything. Exactly. [0:50:56, 0:51:01]: Um just I want to ask uh Councilman Thomas, do you have any comments for uh Linda at all, sir? [0:51:03, 0:51:08]: No, I I have some notes. See, I do have some questions for the um developer. [0:51:09, 0:51:13]: Okay. How about you, Councilman Blount? Any questions you have for Linda at all? [0:51:14, 0:51:25]: Well, Mayor, not at this time. I'm still looking over information and still gathering uh thoughts on different things uh pertaining to the uh this development. So not none of them yet, but some will be coming. [0:51:26, 0:51:38]: All right. So on that note, if there are no more questions in reference to what we see thus far from Linda, uh the quest is for the developer to uh do the developer you have a presentation or some comments that you'd like to make at this time? [0:51:41, 0:52:01]: Yes, um again, my name is Michelle Battle with Battle Law. I do have representatives from um uh Liberty Communities here um with me this evening, um, along with our uh Mark Akapura to and Steve Moore um with Moore Bass to be able to uh answer questions um that may be presented. [0:52:00, 0:52:20]: First, we are extremely excited about this particular project. We have had the opportunity to have multiple meetings with the community to go over the project. As indicated, we are looking at a total of 139 lots. We started this. [0:52:20, 0:52:40]: project out with 147 lots. Since that time and meeting with the community, we were able to address a number of issues. First and foremost, we were able to reduce the number of units to 139. We were able to increase the amount of amenity space [0:52:40, 0:53:00]: Space and the types of amenities, including adding a swimming pool and a community space within the building. We actually are now doing the community space versus the meeting space versus the pavilion. We added in the outdoor playground area. [0:53:00, 0:53:20]: Area as well. It sounds uh as if we're going to be adding sidewalks now on both sides of the street. Um, additionally, we had um extensive landscaping that we were planning along uh the perimeter of the project. As you can see here, um we were uh looking to have uh perimeter uh [0:53:20, 0:53:40]: landscaping along with the uh streetscaping and the uh sidewalk that will be located along Brandon Road. Um additionally, um we also looked at the house style and the house uh type. And after um much discussion, um we agreed to do [0:53:40, 0:54:00]: Four-sided brick homes. These are the elevations that we presented of the types of homes that would be built. These are just two of the design types, but these would be four-sided brick homes. What we wanted to do was to really address many of the questions and concerns that had been. [0:54:00, 0:54:20]: raised by the community, particularly those within the Clark Meadows community. We believe that our project is most closely aligned with Clark Meadows. When you look at the product within the boundaries of the city of Stockbridge, you will see that we are adjacent or across from [0:54:20, 0:54:40]: Clark Meadows, which is an R2, R3 development that was developed at that time under planned development. Even the recorded plat references the number of R2 lots at 15 and the balance of the 142 lots are zoned at R3, or in accordance with [0:54:40, 0:55:00]: With R3 criteria. It's also interesting to note that the developer at that time was able to get variants to allow for smaller unit sizes and for smaller setbacks between the lots. And so in the Clark Meadows community, you actually see lots that are below. [0:55:00, 0:55:20]: The current R three requirements at 7, uh 500 square feet in terms of their um R three lots. Um so their R three lots are actually smaller than ours. Over 50% of our lots are 15,000 square feet or larger. Um and that is evidenced on the [0:55:20, 0:55:24]: um site plan information um sheet here. [0:55:25, 0:55:45]: Um you can see the number of lots that we have here that are 15,000 square feet or larger. And we have lots that are as large as uh 21,000 square feet. Um we've got a number of lots that are at 20,000 square feet, 18, 19,000. [0:55:45, 0:56:05]: We even have a lot, lot 120 at 22,000 square feet and lot 102 at 24,000 square feet. So we have a range of lots that are being provided on this site. When we really look at the subdivision, it fits squarely within the development pattern. [0:56:05, 0:56:25]: And the land use requirements in the city of Stockbridge. We are at 1.89 units per acre, whereas Clark Meadows is actually at a density of 2.74 units per acre. The Moss Point community is at 1.99 units per acre. [0:56:25, 0:56:45]: Per acre. So we are right in that sweet spot here where we are providing lots that are actually larger in size than Clark Meadows, slightly smaller than the lots in Moss Point. But from a density perspective, well in line with what is already developed and in fact less than the line. [0:56:45, 0:57:05]: Less density than both Clark Meadows and Moss Point. With regards to many of the comments that we have received from the community for those who are in an opposition, we took a couple of things that we did. One, there had been complaints about our access onto North Salem Road. We were moved [0:57:05, 0:57:06]: that access point. [0:57:07, 0:57:27]: Um there have been uh questions about um the lot sizes. Again, we uh removed some lots, we uh moved some things around and we were able to increase the lot sizes um to again more than 50 uh percent of the lots are in excess of fifteen thousand square feet, and our average lot size is [0:57:27, 0:57:47]: Over 14,000 square feet. We added the left turn lane into the property as well as a deceleration lane in when we obtained the traffic study. There's much to be said about the traffic study, and we do have our engineer here to respond to any questions, but we believe that the [0:57:47, 0:58:07]: Traffic study is accurate. Um, and he can um go into more detail with regards to that to the extent that you all have questions. Um, but the truth of the matter is um there's no question that um as the city grows, uh traffic will continue to increase. We had conversations um with the Department of [0:58:07, 0:58:27]: Department, Henry County Department of Transportation. And certainly I believe that if the city in conjunction with the county look to make road improvements along both Brandon Road and the County fully responsible for all improvements to North Salem Drive, that things could get [0:58:27, 0:58:47]: better um in the area as the area continues to grow and expand. But that is a decision that Henry County transportation has to make. And zonings by the Georgia Supreme Court cannot be denied solely based on traffic related issues. But we have done everything that we can [0:58:46, 0:58:54]: to make sure that we are handling properly the traffic that is coming in and out of this community. [0:58:54, 0:59:14]: Um, we also by changing the house style, um, we were able to increase the price point um for this community. And that was extremely important to the community as well, that they wanted price points that were higher. Um, we initially were in the high 200s because of the change to the [0:59:14, 0:59:34]: Four-sided brick home. We are now squarely in that mid 300, 330 to 350 as the opening uh list price on these homes. Um, there was discussion about the unit size. Um, we are at um an asked for a minimum of 2,000 square feet. Um, we believe that. [0:59:34, 0:59:54]: That our average unit size will be somewhere around 2,400 square feet. And so as we are talking about unit size, what we wanted was to make sure that some of the individuals who may buy in this community may want a slightly smaller home with more upgrades on their interiors. [0:59:54, 1:00:14]: And we want to be able to provide that, while others may simply want a larger home. And to the extent that they want homes even larger than 2,500 square feet, we are more than happy to accommodate them based on the lot that they obtain. And so we would ask not to put a minimum of 2,500. [1:00:14, 1:00:34]: 500, but maybe an average so that we do have the opportunity to offer that smaller home size to residents with a minimum of 2,000 or even 2,200 square feet would be acceptable to make sure that we allow those residents who want to have that diversity. [1:00:34, 1:00:54]: um to be able to do that. With that being said, we would respectfully request uh approval of this application. Again, we believe that we are squarely in line with what has already been provided for and approved within uh the city limits of Stockbridge. We are definitely in line [1:00:54, 1:01:14]: with the land use. And we believe that the product that we are bringing is aligned with the vision of the city of Stockbridge. And we are here to answer any questions. We've tried to be as flexible as possible while prioritizing making certain that we have a product that will meet market [1:01:14, 1:01:34]: Market demands and that will not end up simply being a pipe farm at the end of the day. We do have individuals here in support of this application. We would ask that you would allow them to speak at the appropriate time. And some of them actually have the name Josh Mahoney and uh on here a couple of times. Those are the individuals who are not going to be able to do that. [1:01:34, 1:01:54]: Individuals who we asked to sign up to speak in support of the project. You have received some letters and emails, including from the Clark Meadows community. You all received an email from them today, I believe, indicating their support from the board for their support of the project, as well. [1:01:54, 1:02:11]: as some individuals who also sent in um uh um notices of support. Um and we can read those if you would prefer. Um but with that um we was again respectfully request uh uh approval of the application and we're here to answer any further questions that you may have. [1:02:12, 1:02:32]: Thank you, Ms. Battle, for your presentation. I'll tell you what, I have something I'd like to ask you. I mean, already you've there have been several different uh additional conditions that have been asked to uh of you all and done this aspect, but uh want to know that maybe this is for something for the staff to know, and I probably should know the answer to this. So if those for those conditions [1:02:32, 1:02:43]: to be solidified in the present uh in in the contract or or in the in the guidelines. I would imagine there's a process we need to go to add them and make sure that what we're asking for is acceptable. [1:02:43, 1:03:03]: uh by the builder and it's it's locked the stock and s in some written document because right now what we mentioned thus far from additional conditions has only been of speak. Those conditions um from our our perspective um if the staff conditions are approved then those would be added as additional conditions. [1:03:03, 1:03:23]: onto the staff conditions to be written into the record. And with regards to the sidewalks, I believe that, you know, that if that's a requirement, that's the requirement. We would ask with regards to the home size that we could have an average as opposed to the minimum that was proposed. [1:03:23, 1:03:25]: Um [1:03:25, 1:03:30]: Councilmember Alexander, but I know that there is still additional discussion to be had. [1:03:31, 1:03:51]: All right. And then another question I'd like to ask you right now deals with the transportation or traffic study. I'm sorry, traffic study. And what I believe I understood previously from the Planning Zoning meeting that the traffic study primarily was was done during the course of the week of a couple hours, maybe in the morning and afternoon. No Fridays, no Saturdays. [1:03:51, 1:04:05]: no weekend type of uh uh analysis per se. And of course we are in the middle of a pandemic. So um so I would just like uh the individual if you can uh maybe respond to that or or to give some clarification on how that came about. [1:04:05, 1:04:25]: Absolutely. And I'm uh Mark Akampora is on the line with us. I can say as he's coming on that um typically a traffic study is done um looking at um traffic counts during um peak hours uh during the weekday, because that is typically when you have the most uh traffic. [1:04:25, 1:04:43]: And so during those peak hours is where we did our review. But I know that Mark is prepared to respond to the questions that were raised about that. And I believe has done some additional work. So, Mark, if you could come on to answer those questions, I'd appreciate it. [1:04:47, 1:04:47]: Welcome, Mark. [1:04:48, 1:04:50]: Hi, is my voice being heard? [1:04:50, 1:04:51]: You are now, sir. [1:04:52, 1:05:00]: Great, thank you very much. Um, my name is Mark Akampora. I live at eight fifty eight Myrtle Street in Atlanta, Georgia. [1:05:00, 1:05:03]: I've been practicing traffic engineering in Georgia. [1:05:03, 1:05:05]: For thirty years. [1:05:05, 1:05:12]: Um, and I am a registered professional engineer in the state of Georgia. My expertise is in traffic studies like the one I did for this project. [1:05:13, 1:05:17]: Um to address the question about the time periods analyzed. [1:05:18, 1:05:22]: The tripical traffic study for a residential project looks at [1:05:22, 1:05:30]: the weekday morning and evening peaks. So the traffic counts that we did, we actually do traffic counts out in the field at the intersections. [1:05:30, 1:05:33]: In the morning from seven o'clock to nine o'clock in the morning. [1:05:33, 1:05:47]: And from four o'clock to six o'clock in the evening. Those are typically the peak times. If we were doing a different land use, like a say a shopping center, we would typically do a Saturday afternoon. If we were doing a church, we might do a Sunday morning. [1:05:47, 1:05:48]: Um [1:05:48, 1:06:06]: We count, we do those two hour counts and then from those two hour counts, we come we break them down into fifteen minute intervals and we compile the four highest fifteen minute intervals. So the p morning peak time might be from seven fifteen to eight fifteen or the afternoon might be from four thirty to five thirty. [1:06:07, 1:06:10]: So those typically represent the highest one hour time period. [1:06:11, 1:06:16]: um in both the morning and evening and those are typically the highest time periods during the day. [1:06:16, 1:06:19]: I will add this in the in the planning commission [1:06:19, 1:06:23]: Hearing several of the neighbors asked about the time periods. [1:06:23, 1:06:30]: And they questioned about the school and they questioned about Friday evening being a high time peak time. [1:06:30, 1:06:33]: So last week, well first I want to add um [1:06:34, 1:06:54]: For my actual traffic study, I did obtain historic Georgia DOT counts on Brandon Road and I adjusted the traffic count stuff that I did for this study to those counts with the anticipated growth that would have occurred without the pandemic. So basically the counts that were done in my study were increased by [1:06:54, 1:06:57]: twenty five percent to account for the pandemic. [1:06:58, 1:06:59]: Um additionally, last week. [1:07:00, 1:07:05]: I I had made site visits during the course of the original study, but last week I also went out [1:07:06, 1:07:06]: Um [1:07:07, 1:07:10]: in the morning period last Wednesday from [1:07:10, 1:07:18]: Uh seven thirty about s seven o'clock to eight o'clock, which included the seven forty five beginning. [1:07:18, 1:07:20]: of the Hickory Flat elementary school. [1:07:20, 1:07:21]: Time period. [1:07:21, 1:07:32]: I observed the entirety of Brandon Road from highway forty two at the signal at the north end of Brandon Road all the way through past the site, pat past North Salem Drive. [1:07:32, 1:07:38]: Um down through the signal at campground and down to the unsignalized intersection at the south and then [1:07:39, 1:07:43]: Brandon Road at Highway forty two. Those were raised by the [1:07:43, 1:07:44]: by the neighborhood as well. [1:07:45, 1:07:45]: Um [1:07:46, 1:07:48]: And then I also went out on Friday evening. [1:07:48, 1:08:00]: and I observed this past Friday evening from four thirty to five thirty in the evening. And the observations that I made were consistent with the observations that I had made originally in the traffic study. [1:08:00, 1:08:00]: And [1:08:01, 1:08:15]: I can I'd I'd be happy to answer any details about what I observed and my analysis and what I did. I don't want to necessarily go through the entire report unless somebody specifically wants me to go through as mu I'll go through as much detail as you'd like me to. [1:08:16, 1:08:25]: Well since I asked the question, I just maybe I might have missed it. So you didn't do any a thorough analysis on the weekend. It's not necessarily needed. Is that what is that what I'm I'm hearing here? Or did I miss something? [1:08:26, 1:08:46]: That's correct. The the peak time periods are the weekday morning from seven o'clock to nine o'clock. So we analyzed that highest one hour and four o'clock to six o'clock in the evening. Basically the normal rush hour. And I did make an observation also on this Friday evening, during the Friday evening rush hour. But that's correct. I did not do any analysis. [1:08:46, 1:08:48]: [4129.7, 4130.3]: Okay. [1:08:51, 1:09:00]: All right, thank you. Uh Council, questions for uh Mark or e or general questions for the project itself that Ms. Battle had briefed. [1:09:00, 1:09:03]: Um, Mary Potem, your Hannah C first. Go ahead. [1:09:04, 1:09:10]: Yes, sir. Uh uh, you know, everybody's uh looking at the studies. Looks like you've done a lot of them. [1:09:10, 1:09:15]: Are there any other studies that exist? Did anybody else do a study besides you all? [1:09:15, 1:09:19]: Well, you know, they might say, Well, this is an independent arbiter. Who else did the study? [1:09:21, 1:09:26]: As far as a traffic study? In in the last in the last several years, who else has done a study? [1:09:28, 1:09:33]: I don't know who else has done a traffic impact study on Brandon Road. [1:09:33, 1:09:38]: I do a lot of traffic studies throughout Henry County. I do about a dozen of them a year. [1:09:39, 1:09:42]: Mm-hmm. Um, but on Brandon Road, I don't know if anybody else has. [1:09:42, 1:09:47]: I would think that it's possible that the other subdivisions that have been built out there [1:09:47, 1:09:49]: may have been required to do [1:09:49, 1:09:53]: study is when they would develop, but I don't know that for certain. [1:09:53, 1:09:59]: Council member, are you referring to the um traffic count information with GDOT? [1:09:59, 1:10:02]: Z D Out of Henry County, anybody else do a survey out there? [1:10:03, 1:10:17]: Yeah, there there is a permanent Georgia DOT count station on Brandon Road. Um, I believe it's south of Radcliffe, so it's just a bit north of the elementary school. It's a permanent count station. [1:10:17, 1:10:30]: And I actually obtained that data and I use that in my study to uh chart historic growth trends and also to calibrate my data to the pre-pandemic data. I basically looked at [1:10:31, 1:10:40]: their data, the Georgia ZoT data, compared to my data and extrapolated their data to twenty twenty one and adjusted my numbers. So the numbers [1:10:40, 1:10:42]: That my study is based on are [1:10:42, 1:10:48]: actual counts then adjusted to what would be expected if the pandemic had not hit. [1:10:48, 1:10:51]: Okay, so what did the G Dot study show? [1:10:53, 1:10:54]: Okay. [1:10:54, 1:10:55]: Um [1:11:00, 1:11:02]: I have I'm pulling up the information right now. [1:11:03, 1:11:03]: The [1:11:04, 1:11:07]: The count the Georgia DOT count. [1:11:07, 1:11:09]: At their count station. [1:11:10, 1:11:16]: Um in twenty nineteen that was the last year that their data was for was three thousand six hundred vehicle. [1:11:17, 1:11:28]: And the the counts for my study was two thousand six hundred and seventy vehicles. That's a tube count that's put across Brandon Road. And so I adjusted my [1:11:28, 1:11:33]: counts upward, including the turning movement counts. I also did AM and PM turning movement counts. [1:11:34, 1:11:37]: At those intersections at North Salem Drive. [1:11:37, 1:11:38]: And at um [1:11:39, 1:11:40]: Sprayberry lane. [1:11:40, 1:11:45]: And I adjusted those counts upward to to match the Georgia DOT count. [1:11:46, 1:11:48]: Okay, now with the Georgia DOT counts. [1:11:48, 1:11:54]: What is the capacity of the road? Is it is does does it make it high, medium, low? What what does it show? [1:11:56, 1:12:00]: Um that's a it's a tough question to answer what the capacity is. [1:12:01, 1:12:02]: capacity [1:12:02, 1:12:12]: Typically on an unconstrained section of roadway, a l in other words, a lane with no control, is about eighteen hundred vehicles per hour. [1:12:12, 1:12:13]: Um [1:12:13, 1:12:22]: But intersections, once you put a traffic signal or a stop sign, that then limits the capacity of the intersection. So it just depends on the location. [1:12:22, 1:12:23]: Um [1:12:23, 1:12:33]: For example, there's a lot higher capacity at the northern intersection at Brandon Road at Highway forty two because there's a signal there. But it's hard for me to just give you a [1:12:34, 1:12:35]: Lane capacity. [1:12:36, 1:12:38]: Well, I would I would say just as a [1:12:38, 1:12:55]: as a subjective number. Thirty six hundred is is very low and twenty six to seventy is very low. Um there are other two lane roads in Henry County that have volumes that are triple that, that are in the that are over ten, ten, twelve thousand vehicles per day. [1:12:56, 1:12:58]: Okay, so what you're stating is thirty six hundred [1:12:59, 1:13:03]: That's of what I'm trying to get at. I I don't know, I'm not an expert. So thirty six hundred [1:13:04, 1:13:05]: Is considered low. [1:13:06, 1:13:11]: Uh uh for a two lane road that would be I would say I would use the word low to moderate. [1:13:11, 1:13:13]: There's a lot of extra capacity out there. [1:13:14, 1:13:15]: Okay. [1:13:15, 1:13:18]: Okay, that that's what I'm getting at. Where where are we currently? [1:13:18, 1:13:22]: So currently your estimation is that it's low to moderate. [1:13:23, 1:13:25]: Yes, and and remember that the [1:13:26, 1:13:29]: The the analysis is based on the highest hours of that. [1:13:30, 1:13:34]: So through most of the rest of the day you have you have a twenty four hour count. [1:13:34, 1:13:35]: And then you have PCAL accounts. [1:13:36, 1:13:40]: So my analysis is actually at the two highest of those twenty four hours. [1:13:40, 1:13:53]: So that you take the thirty six hundred cars and you spread them evenly throughout the day, it's actually that's not really what occurs. It's actually peaking in the morning and evening, and that's the time period that I actually did the analysis. [1:13:53, 1:13:54]: So if you go out there [1:13:54, 1:13:56]: say ten o'clock in the morning. [1:13:56, 1:14:11]: there's not that much traffic out there and the road's kind of empty. But if you go out there at five thirty in the evening or when or when the kids are being dropped off to school in the morning at seven forty five, you're gonna get higher peaks then. And so my operational analysis [1:14:11, 1:14:17]: which is also detailed in my report is actually based on those two highest hours of the day. [1:14:18, 1:14:25]: Okay, so okay. So let me clarify what um like again, I'm a layman and I'm sure maybe the rest of the counselors, I don't know. [1:14:26, 1:14:29]: But in terms of what you're saying, so I understand it. [1:14:29, 1:14:30]: Is that [1:14:30, 1:14:30]: Yeah. [1:14:31, 1:14:32]: ворс [1:14:32, 1:14:36]: during the rush hour in the morning and at the evening. [1:14:37, 1:14:40]: The traffic is low to moderate. That's what you is that what you're saying? [1:14:41, 1:14:41]: Yeah. [1:14:42, 1:14:45]: And in fact, in my traffic study, I have [1:14:45, 1:14:48]: tables that show the existing traffic operations. [1:14:48, 1:14:52]: And we assign the operations levels of service, which are [1:14:52, 1:14:56]: comparable to letter grades in school. They go through from A through F. [1:14:56, 1:14:59]: And they're basically exactly what you would think. [1:14:59, 1:15:10]: of a letter graded school. So level of service A means it's excellent and everything works really well. F means it's failing and you gotta do something. You gotta widen the road or put a signal or something like that. [1:15:10, 1:15:12]: So for the existing analysis [1:15:13, 1:15:17]: At the intersections of Brandon Road at Sprayberry Lane and at North Salem Drive. [1:15:17, 1:15:30]: All of the movements, all of the control movements and the overall intersection were all level of service A in the morning peak and that highest hour in the morning and they range between A and B in the PM peak. [1:15:31, 1:15:36]: So that would be considered excellent operations and no mitigation recommended. [1:15:36, 1:15:43]: And then in the future, when we add the pri add the growth factor to account for other growth and development, and then we add the traffic. [1:15:44, 1:15:47]: The project's traffic from this proposed development. [1:15:47, 1:15:49]: And I re ran that analysis. [1:15:49, 1:16:09]: And the operations are still five years into the future, level uh was it five? I think it was five years into the future, still level of service, all levels of service A in the morning and levels of service A and B in the evening. And that's that those are the morning and evening peak hours that I described a few minutes ago. So at the worst times of day, at those [1:16:09, 1:16:10]: [4570.7, 4572.2]: It's all A's and B. [1:16:12, 1:16:14]: No C's, no D's, no E's. [1:16:14, 1:16:15]: No lap. [1:16:16, 1:16:18]: Well, okay, thank you. [1:16:18, 1:16:20]: Councilman Thomas, do you have some questions, sir? [1:16:21, 1:16:24]: Yes. Um I have two questions. [1:16:25, 1:16:31]: Uh my first question considering um sidewalks on both sides of the street. [1:16:32, 1:16:36]: How would that affect uh lot size? Number one. [1:16:36, 1:16:45]: Uh I'm I'm gonna ask go ahead and ask both of my questions. Uh my second question. Presently we we have problems and issues with parking in the streets. [1:16:45, 1:16:51]: What is the width size of the streets within the this proposed cell division? [1:16:52, 1:17:12]: I'm gonna ask Steve Moore um with our group to respond to that um question. I believe that the streets would uh the sidewalks would still be within uh the right of way um that we had already proposed. And Steve, if you can talk about the width of the right-of-way. [1:17:12, 1:17:15]: It would not affect the uh lot sizes. [1:17:15, 1:17:17]: Or even with [1:17:17, 1:17:25]: That's correct. It won't won't affect the lot size with the city uh standard sidewalks on both sides of the road. [1:17:26, 1:17:34]: And can um Steve, can you respond? And I think there was also a question about the width of the sidewalks. Of the streets. The sidewalks and and the streets. [1:17:35, 1:17:38]: So definitely we have problems in subdivision. [1:17:38, 1:17:41]: with uh parking on the street. Yes, sir. [1:17:41, 1:18:00]: Okay, um my name is Steve Moore. I'm with Moore Bass Consulting. We're civil engineers surveyors uh here in Henry County, uh 1350 Keys Ferry Court, McDonald, Georgia. Um the typical section of the roads uh would be 26 feet from the back of curb to the back of curb. So it's a two-foot curb and gutter. [1:18:01, 1:18:11]: Um so but that that's that's a a section that's been adopted by Henry County and used in the city of Stockbridge, McDonough, Locust Grove, all across the county. Um [1:18:11, 1:18:21]: So twenty-six back to back, the current uh road section also requires uh a four foot concrete sidewalk on both sides of the street within the right-of-way. [1:18:21, 1:18:41]: Um we've recently had some challenges with uh requests on zoning uh having a wider sidewalk uh than that. And we are learning very recently on some other projects that that is creating conflicts with the Henry County Water Authority and their placement of water services where the electric department [1:18:41, 1:18:54]: places their services where cable TV, uh, telecommunications, all those things. So four foot sidewalks uh in a 26-foot back of curb to back a curb section is the standard adopted section. [1:18:54, 1:18:58]: In this zoning, uh, the front setback. [1:18:59, 1:19:00]: It's fifty feet. [1:19:00, 1:19:03]: And that fifty feet is measured from the right of way line. [1:19:03, 1:19:19]: The right-of-way line is approximately 12 feet off of the back of curb. So for concerns about parking in the streets, which I completely understand and I deal with that question a lot, uh this above a majority of the other zonings that we represent. [1:19:19, 1:19:27]: provides more than enough room to park cars probably three deep in the driveway. [1:19:27, 1:19:29]: before it would even [1:19:29, 1:19:36]: uh encroach in the sidewalk, much less the street. Uh but so you have approximately sixty three feet [1:19:36, 1:19:42]: of distance from the edge of pavements or the back of the curb to the front door of the house. [1:19:43, 1:19:47]: So shouldn't have any concerns with parking in the street when you have a driveway that's that long. [1:19:50, 1:19:52]: I I yield back, Mayor. [1:19:52, 1:19:56]: Okay, thank you. Um uh councilwoman uh Gantt, please. [1:19:58, 1:20:03]: Yes. Um my question probably will be to Linda. I don't know who it's gonna be to. [1:20:04, 1:20:08]: You s mentioned that Clark Meadows has R two and R three. [1:20:09, 1:20:15]: Um a mixture. Yes. What will prevent this subdivision from having the same? [1:20:15, 1:20:28]: Well they they uh were able to do that under the PD uh zoning uh plan development and that is not uh that the PD was deleted uh with this current edition of the of the zoning uh code. [1:20:29, 1:20:49]: The the I don't I'll I'd look to respond to that, which is um we basically are um doing exactly the same thing because our lots along um and this and the lots in Clark Meadows along the frontage of Brandon Road are fifteen thousand square feet. And that's what was required uh [1:20:49, 1:21:09]: Um and the R2 lots that they have in Clark Meadows are 15,000 uh minimum square foot lots. And that's what we have are 15,000 square foot minimum lots uh along the frontage of Brandon Road. And then the balance of the lots are technically R three um along with the R three um that matches uh [1:21:09, 1:21:16]: um uh Clark Meadows, except our lots are actually larger than the Clark Meadow um R3 lots. [1:21:16, 1:21:17]: Okay. [1:21:17, 1:21:20]: Thank you. Um also [1:21:21, 1:21:22]: My [1:21:23, 1:21:24]: Other question. [1:21:26, 1:21:26]: Um [1:21:27, 1:21:30]: Gosh, and I lost it. Let me think about it real quick. [1:21:30, 1:21:34]: My other question um had very much so to do with [1:21:34, 1:21:42]: The entrance. I saw one way in and one way out. Um, I I like the look and concept of that. [1:21:42, 1:21:47]: It was there another option to have two different entrances and [1:21:47, 1:21:53]: That's one question. The second question, there was a qu request for twenty five hundred square feet. [1:21:53, 1:21:55]: Homes. Um [1:21:56, 1:22:01]: I thank you for reconsidering and having all brick homes. I I didn't [1:22:01, 1:22:04]: Sorry I haven't had the opportunity to speak in regards to that, but [1:22:04, 1:22:13]: The 2,500 square foot home request, would that even be possible? I I saw an email where it was stated that we were actually having that. [1:22:13, 1:22:25]: Okay. Um Mayor Pro Tem, I know you had mentioned that they were doing twenty five hundred square feet homes. Is it possible? And you guys said two thousand square feet homes. So is that possible at all or or [1:22:26, 1:22:28]: What's what are we gonna do with that? [1:22:28, 1:22:48]: So we had asked um uh and indicated on the lot size that the minimum lot size would be 2,000 square feet. Um we actually were willing to do a minimum of two of 2200 square feet. We had been asked by um Mayor Pro Tem uh to increase the [1:22:48, 1:23:08]: Lot size, we indicated our comfort with doing an average lot size of 2500 was what we had asked for. I mean, obviously, you all can recommend, and I'm sure that council member Alexander will recommend what he wants, but we were trying to see whether or not average [1:23:08, 1:23:28]: Average lot size of 2,500 square feet would be acceptable. Now, that doesn't mean that we wouldn't be larger than that. It just means that that would be the minimum in terms of the average lot size because it is very possible that people will come into this community and want something much larger than that, and we will be happy to accommodate them. [1:23:28, 1:23:30]: them as long as they can pay for that. [1:23:31, 1:23:33]: Uh about I'm sorry, by way of click [1:23:34, 1:23:50]: By way of clarification, I think you said lot size 25. You were talking about. I mean, sorry, I'm not the lot size, the house size. Thank you so much, Mr. Knighton. The house size minimum would be 2,500 square foot average, not the lot size. Sorry about that. [1:23:52, 1:23:57]: Thank you. Um and then you had one other question though about um [1:23:58, 1:23:59]: Uh [1:24:01, 1:24:14]: I think I answered the question. The secondary access. Yes, the secondary access. We had a secondary access onto North Salem Road, and we were asked to remove that secondary entrance. [1:24:15, 1:24:23]: And I'd like to add that we had a s um city fire marshal to look at that and he said it was fine to just have the one entrance. He was okay with that. [1:24:25, 1:24:27]: Well who who said to remove it? [1:24:28, 1:24:29]: Citizens. [1:24:31, 1:24:40]: citizens were unhappy with uh North Salem uh drive being uh very narrow and curvy and unsafe conditions, so they didn't want a secondary access there. [1:24:42, 1:24:44]: Okay. I'm getting [1:24:44, 1:24:48]: My my s I don't know if everyone can hear me, but I'm seeing nothing but [1:24:48, 1:24:50]: Screen freezes right now. [1:24:51, 1:24:52]: We can hear you. Hello. [1:24:52, 1:24:54]: We can hear you. Okay. [1:24:54, 1:24:57]: I can all see the screen freeze. So in regards [1:24:58, 1:24:59]: In regards to that [1:25:00, 1:25:07]: the the community didn't want a second entrance. They so everyone wanted one in and one out entrance. Is that correct? [1:25:08, 1:25:24]: Um, correct, because they didn't want the access point on Salem and we don't have enough frontage to have the two points um along uh Brandon Road without one of them lining up directly across from Clark Meadow. And they were vehemently opposed to that as well. [1:25:25, 1:25:26]: Okay. [1:25:27, 1:25:31]: And so it is not a line directly across from Clark Clark Meadow at this time, correct? [1:25:31, 1:25:49]: Uh no ma'am. The um entrance point is um off uh further south of um their entrance point. So their entrance point is here and our entrance point is down here now and we are north of the entrance point to Moss Point, which is down here. [1:25:49, 1:26:01]: Okay. Can you give me, and this is just a request, uh the amount of lots per size, like if there's fifteen hundred square foot lots, if there's twelve fifty of them. [1:26:02, 1:26:11]: I I just kinda wanted to know a number calculated here. I see the different lot sizes. I just well Lynn I think Linda had twelve thousand is the minimum. [1:26:12, 1:26:14]: And I so I kinda wanted to know [1:26:14, 1:26:20]: how many at least tell me how many twelve how many twelve thousand square feet homes there are. [1:26:20, 1:26:25]: I kind of wanted to see the variety of the lot sizes and I think I've got that up here. [1:26:26, 1:26:28]: Right. But I don't know. I see them. [1:26:29, 1:26:37]: But I I would like a total, like there are 20 12,000 square foot homes. I mean square foot lots. [1:26:37, 1:26:38]: There are [1:26:39, 1:26:40]: Baby [1:26:40, 1:27:00]: 15,000 square. I just want to see the actual amount told. So so we know that Linda did out of the hundred and thirty-nine lots that we have, um, Linda did a count and indicated that at least sixty-nine of those homes are fifteen thousand square. [1:27:00, 1:27:20]: square feet or larger. And she put that actually that's in her staff report between 15 and uh to 20. It's actually a little larger than 20, but 15,000 square feet and higher that 50%. So that's roughly 69, 70 lots um that are 15,000 square feet or larger. If you want to know exactly how many units are [1:27:20, 1:27:29]: are uh 12,000 square feet. Um we can make a quick uh count um while we're on the call here. [1:27:29, 1:27:31]: Okay. That's it. [1:27:31, 1:27:32]: Thank you. [1:27:32, 1:27:35]: Okay, thank you. Councilman Blount, please. Go ahead, sir. [1:27:37, 1:27:37]: Mm. [1:27:38, 1:27:45]: And whoever needs to answer this, when was what what was the actual date? I guess I missed it. What was the actual date the trappist study was done? [1:27:46, 1:27:48]: I'm just trying to gauge the impact. [1:27:48, 1:27:50]: uh of the community [1:27:51, 1:27:53]: with this development. When was the traffic study done? [1:27:54, 1:27:58]: The the date of the traffic study is January twentieth. [1:27:58, 1:27:59]: Twenty twenty one. [1:28:00, 1:28:03]: January twentieth. And the reason I ask [1:28:04, 1:28:08]: And the reason I'm asking that is that you all did no weekends. [1:28:09, 1:28:15]: Uh and and if you had done weekends, it would help us gauge whether the because if the traffic is [1:28:15, 1:28:18]: Traffic is more during the week and the time that you did it. [1:28:18, 1:28:22]: You find that that traffic study was more on the weekends. [1:28:22, 1:28:29]: Then that would account for so many people at home working, and it would account for schools and not being filled, and it would account for us being in a pandemic. [1:28:29, 1:28:32]: So then we would have to say on the weekends. [1:28:32, 1:28:40]: It should have came up lower than the number you have now, but we don't have that to even compare against when it comes to the impact in the community. [1:28:40, 1:28:41]: So [1:28:41, 1:28:50]: Doing a uh uh trapping stud on the weekend would definitely would have been help uh helpful in this case when it comes to trapping because [1:28:51, 1:28:54]: If those numbers are still lower than what you all have. [1:28:55, 1:28:57]: Then you cannot have a accurate number. [1:28:57, 1:29:17]: Because of those elements I just mentioned. So it is not and I I'll speak here as well with Mark, but it is not customary for counts to be taken on the weekend. I have as long as I've been doing zoning for twenty years and having to deal with traffic studies, I've never um had a weekend count. [1:29:17, 1:29:29]: on a residential subdivision. I know that we're in a different we're in a different world right now. Ms. Ballard, let me ask a question. Have you ever done a trapping study during the pandemic? [1:29:30, 1:29:50]: Well, I just said we're in under different you you didn't let me finish my statement. So we're we are under different circumstances right now. Um and so you know, to the extent that um Mark can respond to that, but this is the first, quite honestly, in my 20 years of being asked on a residential subdivision to do counts on a weekend. But Mark [1:29:50, 1:29:50]: Mark, go ahead. [1:29:51, 1:30:03]: Yeah, I mean I I do traffic studies for um shopping centers and and churches and we do those counts on the weekends because that's the time where they have the greatest impact. [1:30:04, 1:30:07]: Residential subdivisions tend to have the greatest impact. [1:30:07, 1:30:10]: impact during the morning and evening weekday peaks. [1:30:11, 1:30:13]: Those also tend to be [1:30:13, 1:30:16]: The t the days that have the highest traffic volumes [1:30:16, 1:30:20]: in residential areas. If you're next to a large mall or something like that. [1:30:21, 1:30:22]: That would be a different situation. [1:30:23, 1:30:24]: As far as [1:30:24, 1:30:29]: Um, studies during a pandemic. I've done a bunch of studies since the beginning of the pandemic. [1:30:29, 1:30:35]: including a lot of studies for um the Georgia Regional Transportation Authority and and [1:30:35, 1:30:41]: Greta, Georgia Regional Transportation Authority, and many of the jurisdictions, including Henry County. [1:30:41, 1:30:42]: have [1:30:42, 1:30:46]: А воркт відмітило фактор стандарт. [1:30:47, 1:30:54]: that have been accepted by Henry County and Georgia Regional Transportation Authority and Georgia Department of Transportation. [1:30:54, 1:30:55]: So [1:30:55, 1:30:58]: I would say I've done about fifty traffic studies. [1:30:58, 1:31:04]: since the beginning of the pandemic and all of them required pol procedures [1:31:04, 1:31:11]: to adjust the counts to account for the pandemic. And I did that in this traffic study. So the answer to that is yes. [1:31:12, 1:31:12]: Um [1:31:13, 1:31:15]: And I I would add this, I would be surprised [1:31:15, 1:31:18]: Even with the pandemic, if traffic volumes [1:31:18, 1:31:19]: Or [1:31:19, 1:31:26]: notably higher or different on the weekend. And my guess is they're probably lower on the weekend, even with the pandemic. [1:31:26, 1:31:27]: Um [1:31:27, 1:31:34]: If you know, that that would be just my guess, but adjustment factors were made for the pandemic to increase the counted volumes. [1:31:35, 1:31:39]: Well for me, I'm just trying to gaze specifics because [1:31:39, 1:31:43]: I mean we all can guess that they could be could be better, but we don't know. [1:31:43, 1:31:50]: We can make adjustments to it, but we just don't know. Uh, the question on the amenities, when we talk about the amenities. [1:31:50, 1:31:59]: Um, you can say pool, but what does that mean? Because I've seen one development before here uh within the last four years that said amenities. [1:32:00, 1:32:03]: And they put something there that's supposed to be in a swimming pool, but it really [1:32:03, 1:32:23]: It meant the name swimming pool, but it didn't uh it wasn't a pool. So is it something that's gonna come to the council at some point in time that that really can get let us gauge, size, positioning, uh, and just just just more about the development, uh, because it's uh this is one of the few that I've seen that's so much. [1:32:23, 1:32:27]: [5548.2, 5550.7]: that this council make is in line with [1:32:31, 1:32:35]: Uh welcoming development and also uh [1:32:35, 1:32:45]: looking at the concerns of the citizens. So that's that's why I'm asking these questions and that's what I want to see more specifics when it comes to uh those type of things. [1:32:45, 1:33:05]: So we have um provided um information concerning the pool itself. Um and I'll ask Neil or Jean to chime in with regards to this. But I believe this pool, um we've got an indication of two thousand uh square feet. Um I believe that this pool is in alignment with the same [1:33:05, 1:33:25]: type and size of pool that you see over in Clark Meadows. And additionally we have the playground area and the fire pit pit in pavilion area and bathrooms that will be on the site as well. And so [1:33:25, 1:33:45]: Um, I have seen in some instances where there's a specific reference to either the size or the type of swimming pool, but it is not intended to be like a wading pool. It is intended to be a true swimming pool, um, very similar to if I mean identical, if not the same size or larger than what's across the um in the Clark Meadow community. [1:33:46, 1:33:47]: All right, thank you. [1:33:48, 1:33:49]: I'm I'm finished, Mayor. [1:33:49, 1:33:52]: Okay, thank you, sir. Uh Mayor Pro Tem, you had your hand up again? [1:33:53, 1:33:54]: Uh yeah, so [1:33:55, 1:34:08]: I guess uh what I want to get at is there was some uh renderings. I want to respond to Ms. Gantt as well. Yes, I did uh I've had spoken with the uh developer about this to see whether or not some of the [1:34:08, 1:34:12]: uh communities uh concerns could be addressed. [1:34:13, 1:34:14]: And uh they wanted to do that. [1:34:15, 1:34:17]: Uh twenty five hundred was one of the suggestions. [1:34:18, 1:34:21]: uh that was made and let me make it perfectly clear, okay? [1:34:22, 1:34:23]: We dictate this development. [1:34:24, 1:34:27]: Yeah, we want to require twenty five hundred square feet. [1:34:27, 1:34:30]: That's what we're required. Now if they don't wanna build that, it's up to them. [1:34:30, 1:34:32]: But in the end we determine [1:34:33, 1:34:35]: what the size of the houses are going to be. [1:34:35, 1:34:40]: If it's gonna be twenty five hundred, gonna be twenty five hundred. That's what we dictate. Now if they decide not to do that. [1:34:40, 1:34:42]: Then that'll be up to them. [1:34:42, 1:34:47]: But that's the that's the way that we need to operate. We need to operate in the fact that [1:34:47, 1:34:57]: We will determine the size. They will make suggestions, but in the end we will make the size, the decisions on what was being made. Now, Miss Battle, you sent me a rendering. [1:34:57, 1:34:59]: Of the amenities uh [1:34:59, 1:35:01]: Uh for example, you don't have those. [1:35:02, 1:35:03]: Um I do. [1:35:03, 1:35:05]: Okay, can you show the Zoda? [1:35:07, 1:35:20]: Um sorry, I'm trying to get my thing to get out of the way so I can actually get to the plan. I apologize. Hold on, let me see if I can figure out how to get over here. [1:35:22, 1:35:30]: Ugh sorry. Uh let me I'm calling up my screen. I apologize. Hold on. There we go. Okay. [1:35:35, 1:35:55]: Okay, so um this was the amenity area and we also had a breakout of exactly what we were proposing in those amenity areas and we're happy to condition um based on uh the site plan is presented um and these amenity uh area enlargements along with the landscape. [1:35:55, 1:35:55]: [5756.3, 5761.6]: Right. The picture over to the right is it is that is an example of what you all build in another subdivision? [1:36:04, 1:36:08]: Uh yeah, those are examples of things that we've Well let's click on that. Okay. [1:36:08, 1:36:09]: Okay. [1:36:09, 1:36:16]: Um those are the pool. Uh the pool is in the background on that one, but the pool here. [1:36:17, 1:36:17]: Oops. [1:36:22, 1:36:25]: So we can specify a pool similar to this one. [1:36:27, 1:36:28]: That's what we should expect. [1:36:29, 1:36:33]: Uh yes, I would um I don't see any reason why you couldn't. [1:36:34, 1:36:54]: Okay, that that's what I'm saying. I mean you this is what that is fine. That is fine. Yes. Right. This is a neighborhood that you actually built, correct? Yes. Yes. Okay, so that and that's the structure and that's the example of the structure. We didn't expect anything less than what you have presented here. You got the fire pit out there. These look like excellent uh amenities. So we [1:36:54, 1:36:56]: certainly would want to h withhold. [1:36:56, 1:37:02]: uh to that standard uh of that beautiful pool that you have there. You built it there. We would certainly like for [1:37:02, 1:37:04]: uh you to build it uh here. [1:37:05, 1:37:06]: Uh for us as well. [1:37:07, 1:37:18]: And and we have no problems you conditioned it on this um presentation um which Linda has in hers, um, that we will build in alignment um with what what you're seeing here. That's fine. [1:37:18, 1:37:20]: Okay. All right. Thank you. [1:37:22, 1:37:25]: Uh Councilwoman Barber, do you have any further questions at all? [1:37:28, 1:37:32]: I do actually. Um the clubhouse. [1:37:32, 1:37:36]: Um, I know Miss Battle mentioned about a pavilion. [1:37:37, 1:37:41]: Can you tell me a little bit more about what you're doing with that pavilion? [1:37:41, 1:37:56]: I'm gonna ask um Neil Cobble. I think um we have now agreed to go to the clubhouse versus the pavilion, which was requested. Um Neil, can you just confirm that? I just wanna make sure I don't wanna misspeak. [1:37:56, 1:38:16]: Yeah, sure. So we're you know, our main focus is um with the pandemic is uh making sure that we have plenty of outdoor space, meeting space, um in our other developments that you guys mentioned that we just built there, uh some other swimming pools and outdoor facilities, is that is the big push right now. The pandemic's gonna go away. [1:38:16, 1:38:36]: At some some point, but the trend is outdoor um social distancing is has become much more relevant. People are much more aware of that. Um, and uh so our focus is outdoor gatherings. Um, and then uh we had a conversation uh with one of the council people uh earlier. [1:38:36, 1:38:56]: earlier this week about uh uh a place to meet and we've agreed that we'll enclose a section of the pavilion for a small meeting area. Um that uh um but again our focus is uh outdoor um uh for pavilions, uh for birthday parties. [1:38:56, 1:39:02]: and um things that connect to the playground um and things that are sustainable. [1:39:07, 1:39:07]: Mm. [1:39:07, 1:39:12]: Um this clubhouse is going to be built as a meeting space. [1:39:13, 1:39:14]: How many people at home? [1:39:18, 1:39:26]: Um it'll hold it'll hold it well, I don't know what the code is there and Steve may be able to speak on that, but you know, it'll hold somewhere around twenty five people. [1:39:36, 1:39:56]: Well I'll tell you what, while she's thinking, I I got a thought. I mean, twenty five people uh for a community of this size, it's not a whole lot of space for the for those folks in this aspect. And and I know where I live, we have a pretty decent sized uh clubhouse and it's gonna have meetings and and and actually citizens uh in that community can rent it for [1:39:56, 1:40:16]: particular activities. Um but uh I I would think that twenty five or max capacity of twenty five probably wouldn't cut the mustard. Uh in my my initial thoughts on that. But uh it's something that I would I would think that I hope that you look at maybe having some larger space. I don't know if that's where Ms. Barber was going with and she was maybe contemplating there. You know [1:40:15, 1:40:35]: But uh I I think that twenty twenty five for the size of that community, it it probably would not cut the mustard there. Well, and that that's our focus is the larger pavilion area, which would um handle to seventy five to a hundred people, which is uh more in line with what uh people are asked. [1:40:35, 1:40:48]: asking for in our communities um these days. They're asking for room to spread out and to be able to social distance. And uh so that's that's been the the reality of what people are asking for. [1:40:49, 1:40:53]: Sir. Stand by one second, please. I'm Ms. Barber, you're unmuted. I think you have something else. [1:40:54, 1:40:55]: Okay. [1:40:55, 1:40:57]: Outpaws for near protein. [1:40:57, 1:41:05]: Okay, Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Okay. In our discussions uh that we had uh earlier about the improvements, we were talking about fifty. [1:41:05, 1:41:09]: But no, we were not talking about twenty five. That's not gonna be acceptable. [1:41:09, 1:41:12]: So let's let's just stop with that right now, okay? [1:41:12, 1:41:14]: It's gonna be fifty or l fifty or more. [1:41:15, 1:41:16]: That's gonna be a condition. [1:41:16, 1:41:20]: So all of the things that we're telling you gonna be a condition. Fifty gonna be a condition. [1:41:21, 1:41:24]: So as we get there, if we get to that point, it it would be fifty. [1:41:27, 1:41:31]: All right. Coun uh Councilwoman Barber, you have another comment, please. [1:41:32, 1:41:35]: No. Ms. Gantt, did you have something else, ma'am? [1:41:37, 1:41:47]: Um, well, as Mayor and Council knows and some of the city, the public knows, we've had issues with parking on our streets and the streets not being wide enough. [1:41:48, 1:41:51]: Are the in this subdivision will the streets be wide? [1:41:51, 1:41:53]: What what's the length there? [1:41:56, 1:42:15]: The the width of the streets. Mm-hmm. They're twenty-six foot wide from the back of the curb to the back of the curb. And the houses will set approximately sixty-three feet off of the curb. So there'll be like I said, there should be room for three cars on each side of the driveway to park. [1:42:15, 1:42:20]: tail to front, uh three deep without encroaching in the sidewalk or the street. [1:42:21, 1:42:27]: But that's bases in the parking lot plus two in the garage. So eight. [1:42:29, 1:42:39]: Well, let me just say that there's not one, it's gonna it's a collective group of us to make decisions. Not one council member can make a decision on their own. [1:42:40, 1:42:50]: Um and I appreciate you guys giving us uh I know we've been going back and forth right now and asking a bunch of questions. We have a lot of concerned citizens that have flooded our emails. [1:42:51, 1:43:00]: um and have brought attention to this matter. And so it is our duty and our job to make sure that we're doing the best for the city of Stockbridge as a whole. [1:43:01, 1:43:03]: Um and we want to be fair to our [1:43:04, 1:43:20]: our developers as well. We are open for business. We are open for business. Um I don't want you to think that we are trying to scrutinize every single little thing, but it is important that when we're open for business, that we make sure that we bring quality. [1:43:21, 1:43:22]: Yes, ma'am, I understand. [1:43:24, 1:43:36]: I I would like to So I I just want to make sure of that. And so um having said that, I I'm still, you know, there are gonna be questions from the public and um I you know, I just want to reserve some time. [1:43:36, 1:43:47]: So that once they make their concerns, they discuss their concerns, I can come back and ask additional questions if need be. But we've been going at this for a while now. [1:43:47, 1:43:53]: I think it you know, we would add those conditions that we've required already. [1:43:53, 1:44:06]: to be met. But I also think that right now we need to speak, we need to hear from our citizens at some point so that we can come back and ask those questions if need be. [1:44:06, 1:44:07]: Yes, ma'am. [1:44:07, 1:44:12]: Well we'll do that in just a bit, uh, Ms. Gantt. Councilman Blount, go ahead, please. [1:44:13, 1:44:15]: Yeah, I think that uh councilwoman um [1:44:16, 1:44:21]: Gantt kinda t stole a little my thunder and I want to s my sentiments is exactly that. [1:44:21, 1:44:26]: You know, we welcome development. We welcome you all to choose Stockbridge to develop. [1:44:26, 1:44:29]: And uh I re will reiterate that. [1:44:29, 1:44:36]: Uh it it takes a collective effort from this whole council, not one council member on here, not one. [1:44:36, 1:44:40]: can stand alone and tell you what you're going to do and what you're not going to do. [1:44:41, 1:44:43]: And when that happens, they're speaking for me. [1:44:43, 1:44:46]: Because it has to be a collect it's it's collectively done here. [1:44:47, 1:44:53]: So I want to say thank you all for choosing Stockbridge, but we have to sit down as a council all together. [1:44:53, 1:44:59]: And decide what is acceptable for the citizens of Stockbridge as an elect as a full elected body. [1:45:00, 1:45:05]: Yes, sir. So when we I don't ever want you to feel that [1:45:05, 1:45:08]: One council member is telling you do this or else. [1:45:10, 1:45:19]: Yes, sir. We as a council as a whole will sit down, go over what we have from you all, we will listen to the citizens, and our decisions will be made accordingly. [1:45:20, 1:45:21]: Okay. [1:45:21, 1:45:32]: Okay, Councilman Thomas, you unmuted, sir. Your thoughts. Yeah, I I just want to uh echo those sentiments and and basically I wanted to sort of speak to the citizens before they really respond. [1:45:32, 1:45:33]: Um [1:45:34, 1:45:37]: You know, it is incumbent upon us to [1:45:38, 1:45:40]: Look at how we grow this city. [1:45:41, 1:45:43]: uh smartly and responsibly. [1:45:44, 1:45:50]: And and that's why we're sort of asking these questions. But I we need citizens to understand that. [1:45:50, 1:45:51]: Um [1:45:52, 1:45:54]: Future when we talk about future. [1:45:55, 1:45:59]: uh this is the the the mode that that we're in [1:46:00, 1:46:04]: Um and then we just want citizens to understand as well as developers. [1:46:05, 1:46:22]: that you know we are going to ask questions and we are going to listen to you because we do represent you. And uh I'm just so thankful that all of the emails that I received from all of the citizens, I I read them all. I may not have responded back to everyone. [1:46:22, 1:46:29]: But I just want citizens to know that we are listening, we we hear, but citizens still have to understand [1:46:29, 1:46:49]: That uh, you know, these are tough decisions and these decisions have to be made. Uh, when we start talking about traffic, um, you know, I've I've said this many times that uh transportation and roads improvement cannot keep up with development. So it's incumbent upon all of us to go. [1:46:49, 1:47:02]: Go to our state legislators and our federal and let our voices be heard about roads, about schools and things like that. [1:47:02, 1:47:04]: The city municipality [1:47:04, 1:47:10]: You know, we ought to have a voice, we ought to have an opinion when it comes to roads and schools. [1:47:10, 1:47:30]: But we all collectively have to come together to make our voice. And I'm saying this to say that we have to be proactive. We can't be reactionary. We can't wait till these developments start coming. And then all of a sudden everybody wanna just an outpour. Um, so we have to just come together and be proactive as [1:47:30, 1:47:34]: As far as uh roles and schools and those kind of things, but [1:47:34, 1:47:36]: Just be assured that [1:47:36, 1:47:37]: You know [1:47:38, 1:47:39]: The future is coming. [1:47:40, 1:48:00]: Whether we are here or not, whether we are living or dead, the future is coming. So we just have to try to do this as smartly as we can. And citizens need to understand that you know we we hear you, and we're trying to do the best that we can to make sure because we understand that your property value and [1:47:59, 1:48:02]: And you know, purchasing a home. [1:48:02, 1:48:17]: And and educating your kid, those are the two largest investments that families have. So we're not taking this lightly. And I just want to make sure that citizens understand that as well as uh developers coming to our great city of Stockbridge. [1:48:17, 1:48:18]: Thank you, Mick. [1:48:18, 1:48:21]: No problem, you're welcome. And on that note, we'll open up the public hearing. [1:48:22, 1:48:42]: So I'll open a public hearing and how this would go is that uh I'm I'm looking for folks that are for the actual development, and then we'll go we'll listen to those folks and then we'll go to four people that are against uh for that. So for four uh this, four comments for the development, and I saw a hand raised and it looks as Joss Mahoney, but it looks like [1:48:42, 1:48:45]: It's yeah, there you go. Yes, please. Go ahead and speak, ma'am. [1:48:47, 1:49:06]: Yes, you yes, you. I it says Josh. Okay, thank you. Okay. I'm I don't I'm sorry, I don't know why it says that. Um my name is Amber. I recently bought a Liberty Community home here in Henry County. I don't know, I have a few concerns because you know I'm looking to purchase another home from Liberty Count uh Co communities in Stockbridge, but I have a few concerns. Um [1:49:06, 1:49:17]: You know, excuse me as a part of the committee the what I'm saying, as this I'm asking for people that have that are for the b development. Yes, I am for it. Okay, okay, good deal. Yes, I am for it. Okay, go ahead. I mean the [1:49:18, 1:49:22]: So we have to understand that, you know, bringing the building in new communities brings a lot of [1:49:23, 1:49:32]: It's not just about the houses, it's about the jobs that it brings, and it's about bringing in newer generations to maintain those those same things. So [1:49:32, 1:49:34]: Uh, I'm completely bored with [1:49:34, 1:49:41]: The brick siding with you know sewers bringing in a sewer. I mean, I'm not sure how they don't how already have one, but you know, those are [1:49:42, 1:49:46]: put in to help, you know, with airborne diseases. You know, waste needs to be [1:49:46, 1:50:00]: distributed you know cleanly that's you need to ensure that we're not you know harboring diseases in the community um another thing is um i am for the development of the community however it's it's um [1:50:00, 1:50:20]: There's a lot of a lot of pullback that kind of it's kind of deterring me at from Stockbridge, not from Liberty Communities, because I I hear them, they're giving, they're giving, they're giving, but I don't hear from a lot of council members that they're willing to negotiate. It's over the citizens are saying. Well, we have to keep in mind that these citizens already live there and we [1:50:20, 1:50:29]: want to welcome change about. So we want to welcome new people to that city, but we can't only hear it one-sided. [1:50:30, 1:50:34]: So and so I'm for Liberty Communities and I applaud them for, you know, making [1:50:35, 1:50:49]: trying to make all these changes, but at what point are is it enough? I'm I'm I'm I'm all I'm hearing is this, this, this, no, no, no, no. But Liberty Communities are bringing about beautiful homes, affordable homes. [1:50:49, 1:51:00]: to all time all all kinds, different minorities, you know, they're they're trying to meet and these homes are very sturdy. They're they're reliable, you know, they're they are, I love this home. [1:51:01, 1:51:04]: I couldn't some of these things that I'm here, I mean it is disheartening. [1:51:05, 1:51:15]: It is disheartening. I would like to expand to Stockbridge and buy another home as a service connected veteran. I mean, but some of the things I'm hearing from the Stock Bridge community, we have to understand these are people that already there. [1:51:16, 1:51:21]: Those people won't be there forever. So we need to be able to still welcome in some some new. [1:51:21, 1:51:33]: And I I think Liberty Community, I I'm for it. I fully support it. I mean, I I hope that the community and the developers and the council members that are not for it give it a chance because what is done in Henry County is beautiful. [1:51:33, 1:51:47]: And we we need to keep that in mind. The amenities that they're bringing, let's not forget that we can't accommodate everyone in one building, and that's now. And everybody won't choose to come into one area at one time. 25 people. [1:51:47, 1:51:55]: I it's doable because we're in the middle of a pandemic. Fifty people I don't even think can be in a building six feet apart all at one time. Just just [1:51:55, 1:52:15]: You know, just just give a little. I'm for it. I support them. All right. Now let me let me say this for you, ma'am, and everybody else. I forgot two things. One is that it's a public hearing, so both for and against if individuals will be able to speak. I forgot to say to you that you need to give your name and your address, please. I'm sorry. So my name is Amber. Uh recently it changed to [1:52:15, 1:52:20]: Whitaker. I stay in Henry County Um Dickens Garden Lane, Park Place of Avalon. [1:52:21, 1:52:21]: Mm-hmm. [1:52:21, 1:52:41]: Okay. And the other thing is is that I I I don't that we need to keep a time limit on this so we don't go very long. So typically time typically our time limit is three minutes. So anybody else that has comments for and against, uh keep your time limit to three minutes, please, if you can. Mayor Pro Tem, I'm I just open session. I need to hear from the citizen. You'll get a chance to speak in a little bit. Let me get to the [1:52:41, 1:52:44]: That's the rule. [1:52:45, 1:52:54]: Well, what w I don't understand what I don't recall a rule that rule particularly. But in this act sir. That's the rule. Ten twelve minutes. [1:52:55, 1:52:59]: I don't I don't recall that off the top of my head. Mr ask Mr. Nine, please. [1:53:01, 1:53:06]: Ms. Knighton, can you clarify that? And I'm and actually our attorneys should be able to clarify that as well. [1:53:06, 1:53:13]: This aspect. I I don't recall a ten minute for or ten minute against. I think the council can determine [1:53:13, 1:53:18]: how much time that you want to allot to those who are proponents and opponents. Right. [1:53:18, 1:53:24]: So what so typically what we have when someone speaks for public comments is three minutes. So ma'am, um [1:53:24, 1:53:31]: Amber, you've already spoken. That's fine. I just I forgot to mention up front. Okay. Uh anybody else for? Uh an another. [1:53:31, 1:53:49]: Yeah, just another lady says Josh Mahoney. That's your hands up, ma'am. I uh so go ahead. I'm I'm looking at you, but I okay, your name and and address please. Yes, my name is Angela Stitt. I live at 809 McBin Court and uh I do have a McDonna address, but I do not live very far from where this development will go in. [1:53:49, 1:53:53]: And I want to state up front that I am for. [1:53:53, 1:53:56]: this development. I feel like the um [1:53:56, 1:54:08]: The spaciousness of the design overall is amazing because it allows for flexibility in what people will see when they come in. It won't be a cookie cutter. [1:54:08, 1:54:09]: type. [1:54:09, 1:54:13]: Um atmosfere, but the actual four sided brick. [1:54:13, 1:54:13]: Um [1:54:14, 1:54:34]: Structure is um wonderful because it's obviously less upkeep, but it does add to the property values. I feel like the the variety of lot sizes that they have presented will also assist in keeping the variety but yet quality neighborhood homes so that everybody [1:54:34, 1:54:38]: Nobody's house doesn't have to be or yard doesn't have to be exactly the same. [1:54:39, 1:54:48]: But yet it's still quality and we recognize that the home values will remain um in good standing. They've offered us a lot of [1:54:48, 1:55:08]: flexibleness, uh flexibility in the green spaces with trying to maintain some of the things that were already there with the pond, things like that. So I feel like in that case, not too many developers are willing to develop that much space for just a community type thing setting with um keeping in mind [1:55:08, 1:55:17]: The green spaces that are available. I also wanted to point out that, um, as my other person before me did, that what [1:55:17, 1:55:37]: One of the best things that this would do would also bring people to our area. Um, people who may not have uh thought of that area before, but being able to have the different size homes the way they are would also allow for whatever is needed for their home and their family. So I do feel like that that's [1:55:37, 1:55:39]: A benefit the good design. [1:55:39, 1:55:51]: um would assist them. So I just think it would be awesome for our community and keeping with that quality that Henry County is noted for and just inviting those families in. [1:55:51, 1:55:57]: economically, they're going to support our local businesses and we're going to benefit all the way around. [1:55:57, 1:56:09]: That's all. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Uh and madam clerk, thank you. I appreciate that. Uh your your godsend. I appreciate all the things you do. Uh anybody else, uh citizens for? [1:56:09, 1:56:13]: Any other citizen for I see um a Randy Stitt, that's if that's how you pronounce your name. [1:56:14, 1:56:17]: Yes, sir, that's correct. Ready to go ahead. Okay, go ahead, sir. [1:56:18, 1:56:23]: Thank you, sir. I live eight oh nine McVean Court in McDonald, Georgia. Henry County resident. [1:56:23, 1:56:39]: And I am for the development. Um just the simple word development is um something that I think we should focus on because it is as as was stated earlier in the council's discussions, that that is something that is considered progress moving forward. [1:56:39, 1:56:42]: And I'm all for progress and for adding and for [1:56:42, 1:56:46]: bringing in a development that would be of this quality um [1:56:46, 1:56:48]: As a homeowner and um [1:56:49, 1:56:50]: uh an investor in a home [1:56:51, 1:56:54]: I think it is important to focus on the quality of these homes. [1:56:55, 1:56:58]: Um, as was mentioned in their development, it's gonna be four sided brick. [1:56:59, 1:57:16]: And that is something that a lot of homeowners will look for, something that is um something that will be longstanding and will take a lot less homeowner maintenance and will be more aesthetically pleasing to the eye. So I think that's important for this subdivision to [1:57:17, 1:57:21]: to promote that and to show that and to be willing to do that in in the [1:57:21, 1:57:24]: home building there and also to give [1:57:24, 1:57:27]: The space for each of those lots um [1:57:27, 1:57:31]: I think that's also important to not try to put in more homes. [1:57:31, 1:57:33]: That would be suitable for that. [1:57:33, 1:57:35]: um development to go in there. [1:57:36, 1:57:39]: And for everyone to be willing to give and and to [1:57:39, 1:57:44]: make the changes and to accommodate. I think that has been a a positive aspect. [1:57:44, 1:57:57]: of this presentation this evening and to hear that they're willing to give and and to do what is is necessary to bring progress and development to that area and to make something that would be available for [1:57:57, 1:58:02]: homeowners and home buyers to to be able to move into the area and to grow. [1:58:02, 1:58:04]: And develop Henry County even more. [1:58:04, 1:58:07]: That's all I have. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Stanley. Appreciate that. [1:58:08, 1:58:12]: I see home. I see a Jane hamcock, hammock, I guess it is, hammock. [1:58:14, 1:58:14]: Quay, please. [1:58:17, 1:58:18]: You have to unmute? [1:58:20, 1:58:23]: Jane Hammock, your hand is raised risen. [1:58:27, 1:58:37]: Can you hear me now? No, I can hear you, ma'am. Go right here, please. Okay, I'm sorry. I lived on this property for forty five Could you give your address, please? I'm sorry, ma'am. Please name and address, please. [1:58:38, 1:58:44]: I grew up on the property that you're discussing, seven thirty two Brandon Road. Okay. [1:58:44, 1:58:47]: And I live about a mile from there now. [1:58:48, 1:58:59]: Um I but I I lived there for 45 plus years and now I'm just a short distance away in a much smaller subdivision with much smaller lots. [1:58:59, 1:59:04]: And we as a family have no problem with the property being developed. [1:59:04, 1:59:11]: As it is more than comparable to the other developments in our neighborhood, and I think it rises above all of them. [1:59:12, 1:59:17]: And that's what I have to say. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. I really appreciate your comments. [1:59:18, 1:59:18]: Okay. [1:59:19, 1:59:22]: I have a um a chapman, is that a Cali? [1:59:22, 1:59:23]: Uh Chapman. [1:59:24, 1:59:25]: I see with a hand risen. [1:59:25, 1:59:33]: Uh yes, sir. It is uh Chapman on here, but it's recently changed to Pike. It is Kaylee Pike at four fifteen Jana Lane, McDonough, Georgia. [1:59:34, 1:59:35]: Okay. Go ahead, please. [1:59:36, 1:59:45]: Um, my name is Kayleigh Pike. Um, I am a school teacher. I'm also a long-term resident of Henry County, and I actually just bought a new home there. [1:59:45, 1:59:55]: I have several friends and coworkers who are interested in moving to Henry County. From what I understand, this community will have walking trails and other amenities that make it a great addition. [1:59:55, 2:00:00]: Um, I have been in the area all of my life and it's wonderful to see this growth coming about. [2:00:00, 2:00:08]: Um, all of the new restaurants, the new shops that are going to be added. Um, it is also very exciting to see these new homes coming to the area. [2:00:09, 2:00:17]: I am in support of this project because I believe it's a great community for my friends to have the options to purchase a new home and to enjoy with their families. [2:00:19, 2:00:20]: Thank you very much. I appreciate your comment. [2:00:21, 2:00:29]: Yes, sir. Thank you. Okay. I s I have another individual. Someone's has their mic on. Hot mic there. [2:00:29, 2:00:32]: So Josh Mahoney, an individual in a red sweater. [2:00:32, 2:00:33]: Um [2:00:33, 2:00:36]: A a website there atop. [2:00:37, 2:00:38]: Uh I think that's me. [2:00:39, 2:00:41]: Okay, we're in here, sir. Yes. What's your name and address, please? [2:00:42, 2:00:44]: Name is Frank Flucas. Um at seven zero one two [2:00:45, 2:00:46]: Becca Lane in Locust Grove, Georgia. [2:00:47, 2:00:51]: Um I'm actually a realtor. I'm actually a business owner in Henry County. [2:00:52, 2:00:52]: And [2:00:53, 2:00:56]: I feel like this is a much needed thing for the county. Uh [2:00:57, 2:00:58]: Basically right now we've got [2:00:59, 2:01:02]: A shortage of inventory, we've got we've got more buyers in inventory. [2:01:03, 2:01:05]: Liberty Bills a quality product. [2:01:05, 2:01:19]: And I feel like them bringing the product to the area is only a win-win for everybody, especially realtors for for businesses and and also for uh the the county development term of taxes and things of that nature. So I really think this is a good positive thing. [2:01:20, 2:01:22]: I think it should be approved and you know, I'm all for it. [2:01:23, 2:01:25]: Thank you, sir. I appreciate your comments. [2:01:25, 2:01:27]: Yes, um Vanessa Holiday, yes ma'am. [2:01:30, 2:01:32]: I need the gentleman to repeat his name, please. [2:01:33, 2:01:35]: My name is Frank Flukas. [2:01:35, 2:01:36]: Frank Lucas. [2:01:37, 2:01:37]: Locus. [2:01:39, 2:01:42]: Thank you. Fluc Flucas, you said flucas, right? [2:01:42, 2:01:43]: Yes. [2:01:43, 2:01:47]: Frank Frukless. Yes. Would you spell it for me, please, your last name? [2:01:48, 2:01:51]: It's F is in Frank, L-U-C-A-S. [2:01:51, 2:01:52]: Thank you. [2:01:53, 2:01:59]: Okay. Any other any other uh citizens uh four? Uh I see uh Tariska, Tarica? [2:02:00, 2:02:02]: Sorry if I mispronounced your name, ma'am. [2:02:02, 2:02:10]: Turkesa Taylor. Turkesa Turkisa Taylor. Go ahead. Yes. Name a name and address, please. Uh 175 Country Club Drive. [2:02:10, 2:02:11]: Okay, go ahead, please. [2:02:11, 2:02:12]: So [2:02:12, 2:02:17]: Um, as a resident and I'm also a realtor. [2:02:17, 2:02:26]: Um, I've been selling new homes for seventeen years and worked for all types of builders. Never have I seen a development that's proposed [2:02:27, 2:02:41]: um in this manner for you know pavilions, heating and cooling, um, bocce ball, fire pits, um, these type of amenities, um, foresight brick, and then at the starting prices that [2:02:41, 2:02:44]: that um is proposed is [2:02:45, 2:02:47]: I I wouldn't say unheard of, I just haven't [2:02:47, 2:02:56]: You know, it's unbelievable. And I feel like it's actually gonna like everyone else is saying, you know, uh providing opportunities for those people who want some [2:02:57, 2:03:17]: Uh quality built homes and in the Henry County area. I am definitely all for it and I'm excited to see what happens. I'm excited to see this development comes about. And I think that future homeowners and [2:03:17, 2:03:26]: And residents of of Stockbridge and Henry County are gonna be pleasantly supp they're gonna be very excited as well. [2:03:27, 2:03:29]: Okay. Thank you, Ma'am. Mayor Mayor Ford. [2:03:30, 2:03:30]: Yes, sir. [2:03:30, 2:03:33]: This is Randy Knights and I wanna make one correction. [2:03:33, 2:03:34]: What's that? [2:03:34, 2:03:39]: There is a section in the code that talks about public hearings before the zoning advisory board of planning commission. [2:03:40, 2:03:44]: And the mayor and council related to rezoning items twelve twelve oh oh five. [2:03:45, 2:03:47]: It does talk about ten minutes for [2:03:48, 2:03:51]: uh proponents and ten minutes for opposition. [2:03:52, 2:03:54]: There's also a section that does state. [2:03:54, 2:03:59]: That the mayor or chair of the zoning advisory board or planning commission [2:03:59, 2:04:02]: can extend the time per their discretion. [2:04:03, 2:04:23]: All right. Well, since we're already started down this road of three minutes per individual, I want to continue along that line uh to allow the people that may still have comments for and then anybody against in that aspect to be fair to both sides as best as possible. I appreciate that, uh Mr. Knight and any other research that if that was done with you or our attorneys, I appreciate that thought. [2:04:23, 2:04:31]: Sorry, Mayor Pro Tem, we're gonna go along this other line. We've already started. Uh Miss Uh Davis, uh Larae Davis, I believe you're four. [2:04:33, 2:04:53]: Unmute yourself, please. Unmute yourself. I'm sorry about that. Yep. My my name is Larae Davis and I'm actually the president of sales for Liberty um professionals on one seventy five Country Cliff Drive. I've been a realtor um in Georgia for over twenty years. I actually opened up a community um over there called the Southern Eagles Landing. Um twenty [2:04:53, 2:05:01]: Years ago, so long. But um, I do want to say I am definitely for the project because, as real estate agents, if you're watching what's happening in the market, there's not [2:05:02, 2:05:05]: enough properties in the area, good quality property. [2:05:05, 2:05:10]: projects and and I know what will we'll bring to the area. [2:05:10, 2:05:17]: Other one thing I wanted to address, I think Councilman Gingett, you were concerned about the size of the clubhouse and how many people hold. I think um [2:05:18, 2:05:38]: I live in a community that's actually 1200 homes. So you'll know our our clubhouse holds 35 people, but we do have the pavilion, which we're able to have gatherings, which we do all the time in the community for over probably about 50 to 75 people because the as long as we open the doors to extend it, we're able to extend it all the way out. So it's it's really nice. [2:05:38, 2:05:40]: really nice and it it would definitely work. [2:05:40, 2:05:48]: So I don't want y'all to think just because it's a number 25, you can't still host your events. That's one of the great things about having cover, having the um the uh [2:05:48, 2:05:55]: The fire pit area is is very nice. And I would love for y'all to come take a tour if you ever want to. So you can actually see how it looks, but it's really nice. [2:05:56, 2:06:16]: I'm definitely for the project. Okay. Thank you, Ms. Davis, for your comments. Um, I uh is there any more four before we go to any anybody against? Any more four? I don't see any others. So if that is the case, we will uh identify people that uh have uh comments against this particular project for one reason or another. Anyone that is against [2:06:16, 2:06:22]: Against uh any comments, any hands? I still don't see anybody. [2:06:24, 2:06:30]: Okay. I don't see anybody that is against the right now, Mayor uh Mayor, give me just a second. [2:06:31, 2:06:31]: Okay. [2:06:42, 2:06:43]: Uh Susan Cannon. [2:06:44, 2:06:45]: Yeah, so [2:06:46, 2:06:47]: Please unmute yourself. [2:06:50, 2:06:54]: Hi, can you hear me now? Go right, go right ahead, Miss Cannon. [2:06:54, 2:06:59]: Okay, my name is Susan Cannon. I live at six oh four Page Court in Moss Court. [2:06:59, 2:07:08]: uh Moss Point and we are a to our community. Uh there's been a lot of talk about the traffic, but I think the focus is not where it needs to be on the traffic and [2:07:08, 2:07:13]: Two thousand nineteen they say there were thirty six hundred cars traveling this road. [2:07:13, 2:07:17]: Um thirty six hundred tr uh cards, there's probably more than that now. [2:07:18, 2:07:18]: But [2:07:19, 2:07:25]: We're looking at thirty six hundred traveling Brennan Road from one end of Brennan to the other. [2:07:25, 2:07:36]: That may not be a very high area if you look at that total area. But I think where we need to focus is in this very short distance uh between Moss Point [2:07:36, 2:07:38]: And Clark Meadows. [2:07:38, 2:07:40]: This is just several hundred yards. [2:07:41, 2:07:47]: There's going to be approximately nine hundred cars in these three neighborhoods. If each house has [2:07:47, 2:07:52]: three uh two cars and about twenty five percent of them are gonna have three. What goes out must come in. [2:07:53, 2:08:05]: We're looking at about eighteen hundred cars possibly just from these three neighborhoods that are going to be jumping into the road and just several hundred yards. And then from that point down to the school. [2:08:05, 2:08:18]: We're looking at less than an eighth of a mile from where the first dense subdivision will start having traffic coming out until you get to the crosswalk at an elementary school. [2:08:18, 2:08:26]: So I think that looking at that number of cars in that short space with three subdivisions dumping into it. [2:08:26, 2:08:28]: And a school there. [2:08:28, 2:08:31]: is a little different from looking at a long wide open road. [2:08:32, 2:08:37]: The other thing is sub uh Stockbridge is a small peninsula of land. [2:08:38, 2:08:39]: on Brandon Road. [2:08:39, 2:08:44]: It's surrounded by urban, I mean by um rural property. [2:08:45, 2:08:47]: And we already have two [2:08:47, 2:08:51]: Of the most dense subdivisions on Brandon Road. [2:08:51, 2:08:55]: Right here in this little piece of land called the city of Stockbridge. [2:08:56, 2:08:58]: If we put the subdivision in [2:08:58, 2:09:07]: We will be outlining the city of Stockbridge. We won't need welcome to the city of Stockbridge. It's gonna be that little spot of land. [2:09:08, 2:09:09]: In this role area. [2:09:09, 2:09:10]: They're useful. [2:09:11, 2:09:14]: It has three subdivisions in it that are high density. [2:09:15, 2:09:17]: I think that this is an opportunity to make our mark. [2:09:18, 2:09:23]: We are not looking at trying to keep the uh Clark family from selling. [2:09:23, 2:09:24]: This is [2:09:24, 2:09:25]: Oh [2:09:25, 2:09:26]: Specified mail. [2:09:26, 2:09:30]: Or a they can sell this land in one acre lots. [2:09:30, 2:09:38]: If you look right behind them on Salem Road, those lots are an acre to an acre and a half and the homes are sold before they ever start breaking the land. [2:09:38, 2:09:41]: You look at the freestanding homes. [2:09:41, 2:09:46]: on Brandon Road heading south, the large brick homes. [2:09:46, 2:09:50]: Homes north and south of Campground Road. [2:09:50, 2:10:08]: Uh there has been some remarks about minorities or ethnics. I'm sorry, you're three minutes are now up, ma'am. Okay. There is diversity in these large homes. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Uh Ms. Perryman, uh your uh have comments against this project. [2:10:08, 2:10:09]: Is that correct? [2:10:10, 2:10:13]: And so please unmute yourself and and let us know what your concerns are. [2:10:14, 2:10:15]: Ms. Perryman. [2:10:15, 2:10:16]: Anna Perriman. [2:10:21, 2:10:23]: Ms. Perryman, can you unmute yourself, please? [2:10:32, 2:10:33]: Okay, there you go. [2:10:33, 2:10:36]: Oh name name and address please, Ms. Perryman. [2:10:37, 2:10:49]: Okay. I don't know how I came under I couldn't get in it the other way. My name is Barber Fleischman. I live at 10 26 Brandon Road, McDonough, Georgia. And I've lived here 30 years. I have nine acres and um [2:10:50, 2:10:51]: I would just say [2:10:52, 2:11:03]: I have one comment about what Linda Logan said because I was in on the planning and zoning committee and every member of it voted against this project. So there wasn't anybody on that committee that voted for this. [2:11:03, 2:11:07]: So I was kind of um shocked at her comment that they were sort of for it. [2:11:08, 2:11:09]: But anyway, um [2:11:09, 2:11:11]: The traffic study is flawed. [2:11:11, 2:11:15]: Um, the traffic on Brandon Road is very heavy as it is now. [2:11:16, 2:11:17]: Um [2:11:18, 2:11:21]: We we're not opposed to having [2:11:22, 2:11:25]: more here, but we would like to have larger lots. [2:11:25, 2:11:29]: That is a tremendous amount of number of houses to put in there. [2:11:30, 2:11:31]: And wild wood. [2:11:31, 2:11:41]: is right in between my house and the proposed development. They have large lots in there. So the larger lots are selling. This is still a rural area and we'd like to keep it that m way. [2:11:41, 2:11:49]: as much as possible. Like I said, we're not against having houses built in there, but we would prefer uh, you know. [2:11:49, 2:11:50]: At least [2:11:50, 2:11:53]: twenty five hundred square feet be the minimum and [2:11:54, 2:12:00]: in larger lots, you know, half acre and up,'cause those are just that's just the density is just too much for the area. [2:12:00, 2:12:20]: And the school, they have I don't know how much room they would have to spread out to allow new students. That land was taken, I understand, by eminent domain. So they could either there's houses on either side. So I guess they'd have to take somebody's house if they want to expand the school. And I don't think people would be for that. So I'm totally against this development as [2:12:20, 2:12:22]: Going forward as it is. Thank you. [2:12:22, 2:12:32]: Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate your comments. Um, I see a uh Miss uh uh Bonda Allen. Are you speaking uh against this project, ma'am? Miss Allen. [2:12:34, 2:12:41]: You're saying Yolanda Allen. That's me. Yes, ma'am. Go right ahead. You're you comment. Hi, good evening, everybody. Name and address, please. [2:12:42, 2:12:46]: Uh Yolanda Allen, four six five at Story Away. I live in the Clark Meadows subdivision. [2:12:48, 2:12:49]: Go ahead, please. [2:12:49, 2:13:07]: Um, I kind of like to echo a little bit on what Ms. Fleischman Fleischmann had mentioned in regards to the minimum lot size uh or the square footage on the homes and the um the density of the homes. You know, would the uh builder consider maybe decreasing [2:13:07, 2:13:09]: Uh the density. [2:13:09, 2:13:17]: Of the homes. I think as it stands now, it's 139 homes. Maybe consider going down to maybe about 125. [2:13:17, 2:13:19]: And increasing the square footage. [2:13:20, 2:13:36]: on the lots and the home sizes as well. As far as all the other designs, adding the pool and the four-sided brick. I mean those all sound good and well and it sounds beautiful. And I think it would complement what we have here in my subdivision. [2:13:37, 2:13:44]: Um, I just also think that we don't have in in the the city of Stockbridge and McDonough. [2:13:45, 2:13:51]: Enough of amenities outside of what's being built, such as um [2:13:51, 2:14:00]: Family style restaurants, uh shopping as compared to other high-end uh counties such as Cog County. [2:14:01, 2:14:03]: We don't have all of those things to kind of [2:14:04, 2:14:05]: Um [2:14:06, 2:14:15]: uh go with uh what what we're having built here in the city of stockbridge. We don't have those amenities. And I just feel like it's it's it's [2:14:16, 2:14:22]: In the end, we're still gonna have people leaving our county, going to other counties and putting money, investing money in their counties. [2:14:23, 2:14:27]: uh as opposed to investing in our county since we don't have those same type of amenities. [2:14:28, 2:14:32]: So I think about that as well, you know, um as far as, you know. [2:14:32, 2:14:33]: You know. [2:14:33, 2:14:35]: Building homes here. [2:14:35, 2:14:36]: Um [2:14:37, 2:14:41]: I'm against it um b for those reasons and um [2:14:42, 2:14:47]: I think that's all I have to say. I mean, but I would really would like for the builder to consider. [2:14:48, 2:14:54]: uh decreasing the amount of homes and maybe increasing the uh the lot size and the [2:14:54, 2:14:58]: The square footage on the homes. I think that would be a lot nicer. [2:14:58, 2:15:02]: um for this area if they do decide, you know, to make those changes. [2:15:04, 2:15:06]: Thank you, Ms. Allen. I appreciate your comments. [2:15:06, 2:15:07]: All right, thank you. [2:15:07, 2:15:08]: Okay. [2:15:08, 2:15:13]: Uh I have a Wendy Kirkpatrick. I saw your hand was raised. You had a hand raised. [2:15:13, 2:15:19]: Wendy Kirkpatrick. Yes, sir. Thank you. Um thank you. Name and address, please. [2:15:20, 2:15:24]: Um my name is Wendy Kilpatrick. I live at three three four Brandon Road, McDonough, Georgia. [2:15:25, 2:15:25]: Um [2:15:25, 2:15:30]: I would like to echo uh the sentiments of for oko opposition. [2:15:30, 2:15:41]: Uh just as everyone else has stated, uh with the traffic concerns, the education infrastructure, um, I would like the board to consider or council to consider. [2:15:41, 2:15:42]: Um they [2:15:43, 2:15:43]: Uh [2:15:43, 2:15:52]: impact that it's going to have on our education system. We do not want to be a Clayton County where it does it's dysfunct because everybody's moving to Henry County. [2:15:52, 2:15:53]: And we just can't um [2:15:53, 2:15:55]: Hold everyone in the schools. [2:15:55, 2:16:06]: Um, we would really like for you guys to uh consider the traffic study because it was done during COVID um and it was not um dur during routine times. [2:16:07, 2:16:07]: Um [2:16:08, 2:16:12]: We would like for you to consider the planning and zoning board uh decision. [2:16:13, 2:16:15]: Uh they were all opposed to it. [2:16:15, 2:16:20]: Um and you guys uh employ those individuals to seek counsel to you. [2:16:20, 2:16:28]: Uh, they actually listen to our concerns and um and I'm hoping that uh as counsel here that you guys will also. [2:16:29, 2:16:31]: Uh listen to your planning and zoning. Um [2:16:32, 2:16:33]: Decision [2:16:33, 2:16:35]: It was a very careful decision. [2:16:36, 2:16:36]: Um [2:16:37, 2:16:42]: like to make sure that everyone understands that this might have conflict of interest. [2:16:42, 2:16:47]: Um, I see a lot of people that are are for this, but I can see that if you're in real estate. [2:16:47, 2:16:52]: Uh you would probably be for this because it would be for more money for the area. [2:16:52, 2:16:58]: My consideration would also to be to consider the zoning uh to just be R one or R two. [2:16:58, 2:17:00]: Um which is commensurate for this area. [2:17:01, 2:17:02]: Uh we uh [2:17:02, 2:17:04]: We are not opposed to growth. [2:17:04, 2:17:08]: А ви аппи да Форсайд Брикс. [2:17:08, 2:17:11]: Um and we are not opposed to [2:17:11, 2:17:15]: Um having another development here. But as we have stated before. [2:17:15, 2:17:32]: Um, there are some concerns about this proposal. We're also concerned about our rights after the fact that if this does get passed, um if they would be allowed to change the zoning again ha has it been in the other uh like Clark Meadows was R two to R three. [2:17:32, 2:17:34]: So uh that is my opposition. [2:17:35, 2:17:37]: Thank you, Mr. Pro Pratt. Appreciate it. [2:17:37, 2:17:45]: Um I see a a Gene Strickland. Are you uh against this project, sir? You need to make comments to this for this. [2:17:48, 2:18:05]: Gene is with uh Liberty Community. I'm on the Liberty Community thing. Okay, screw me. Okay, I got you. No problem. Thank you. Okay, anybody else? Uh a uh is there a I see a uh Veneera Vern Verna, I guess Ferg uh Ferry? [2:18:07, 2:18:08]: Yes, can you hear me? [2:18:08, 2:18:11]: Yes, I can hear you. Your name and address, please, ma'am. [2:18:11, 2:18:31]: Martin and Verna Ferry, 406 North Salem Drive and McDonough. We want to thank the Mayor Ford and Council for listening to us and giving us this opportunity. We're not opposed to the uh development, to a development. We're just opposed RA to R3. [2:18:31, 2:18:51]: That is not contingent with the rest of our area. If you take a look at the maps that have shown, uh this parcel is like the big toe on the end of the foot. It is surrounded by RA and R1 and R2 properties. We are unincorporated Henry County, not City and [2:18:51, 2:18:59]: Don, this is the only parcel or city of Stockbridge. I'm sorry, this is the only parcel that is City of Stockbridge, and we're asking you to. [2:19:00, 2:19:20]: try to conform along with our community and at what we're looking at. We would like for the zoning to complement our area, not to, not to congest it and uh to enhance it instead. We we appreciate you listening to us. We'd also like to leave a little bit of our time, if we can, to go [2:19:19, 2:19:34]: towards Mark Jones. He has a uh a uh PowerPoint presentation that the community got together that we would like you to to look at because this covers all the points we were we're thinking about. Thank you very much. [2:19:34, 2:19:43]: Thank you, Ms. Uh Ferry. Okay, so you mentioned a Mr. Mark Jones. Uh and Mr. Jones, uh [2:19:44, 2:19:50]: I have to admit I don't see you. Uh my eyes may be deceiving me here. Um [2:19:52, 2:19:53]: I don't see him either. [2:19:53, 2:20:05]: Okay. Besides Mr. Jones, if he pops up, uh anybody else uh that has comments uh that's uh uh not for this particular development. Anybody? [2:20:07, 2:20:08]: Anybody else? [2:20:10, 2:20:27]: Sir, um Mark Jones has uh stated that he cannot get into the link that he was provided. He has been our elected spokesperson. Um I had to leave early to uh attend a an accident. Um and so I didn't know that he hadn't spoken for the behalf of our community. We he has a [2:20:27, 2:20:31]: lengthy presentation to for the board he did for [2:20:31, 2:20:38]: the planning and zoning committee as well. So um I didn't know he was not afforded the opportunity to speak. Um can we try to get him a link? [2:20:40, 2:20:42]: Well, okay. How uh hm. [2:20:43, 2:20:48]: Mayor Yes, who who yeah Attorney Gantt, I mean Councilwoman Gantt. Yes. [2:20:48, 2:20:49]: All right. [2:20:49, 2:20:50]: Um [2:20:51, 2:21:01]: I did see where Mark Jones did put in a QA that he was trying how do he how how does he have the opportunity to share his screen? [2:21:02, 2:21:03]: However, that was at six twenty. [2:21:05, 2:21:12]: PM. I don't know if he's still on here or not. Um, so he he was here and he asked, How can I share my screen? [2:21:13, 2:21:14]: That's it. [2:21:14, 2:21:34]: Okay, well I don't see him now and I would imagine if we were going to uh see us show a screen, uh I would imagine that the IT would be able to allow him in to do that. Um now granted we've been having these conversations for only three minutes, so I don't know if you can do this in three minutes if he's back on um in this aspect. So [2:21:35, 2:21:43]: Let's see here. Besides Mr. Jones, is anybody else that uh has any comments against this uh project that's available right now? [2:21:44, 2:21:45]: Joanne Young? [2:21:46, 2:21:47]: Excuse me. [2:21:47, 2:21:55]: Hello? Oh you hear me? Yes, Joanne Young. Okay, my name Joanne Young. Um I live six one six Vindela Circle. [2:21:56, 2:21:59]: I lived here for at least uh almost eight years. [2:21:59, 2:22:01]: It's a wonderful place to live. [2:22:01, 2:22:04]: But I have a problem. If if you all [2:22:04, 2:22:08]: Uh commissioner uh politicians can promise to [2:22:09, 2:22:11]: Build uh the school. [2:22:11, 2:22:12]: And um [2:22:13, 2:22:17]: And the roads need to be uh developed better. [2:22:17, 2:22:21]: 'Cause it's so narrow, it's dangerous, no lights, no sidewalks. [2:22:22, 2:22:23]: Does I I have [2:22:23, 2:22:28]: been to different areas in um Stockbridge or McDonald. [2:22:28, 2:22:37]: And they have sidewalks. You don't see too many houses because they into subdivision, but they have sidewalks all the way up the hill, all the way down the hill. [2:22:37, 2:22:40]: But here I see people they break down. [2:22:41, 2:22:45]: And and and then the roads is narrow when you go down Brennan and Road. [2:22:45, 2:22:47]: And you almost have getting to accident. [2:22:48, 2:22:49]: because it's no shoulder. [2:22:50, 2:22:52]: And sell and roll. [2:22:52, 2:22:52]: That's [2:22:53, 2:22:56]: Dangerous. That road, no lights, no [2:22:56, 2:22:57]: uh as narrow [2:22:58, 2:22:59]: Now think about the Russia out. [2:23:00, 2:23:02]: People trying to get on the other side to get on East Lake. [2:23:03, 2:23:03]: Okay. [2:23:04, 2:23:05]: So somebody break down there. [2:23:06, 2:23:08]: Was it's only just one light. [2:23:08, 2:23:12]: So a lot of people going to be late for work or [2:23:12, 2:23:15]: It it's just gonna be gridlocked. That's what I see. [2:23:16, 2:23:16]: But [2:23:16, 2:23:18]: If you all can promise to [2:23:18, 2:23:22]: uh develop more on that elementary school [2:23:22, 2:23:27]: Bring more teachers, more classes, like more buildings for the [2:23:27, 2:23:28]: Kids. [2:23:29, 2:23:33]: That would be great. You can build houses, but if you're gonna build all these houses. [2:23:34, 2:23:38]: 'Cause I think it's another uh lot down there. I think forty two, forty three acres. [2:23:39, 2:23:40]: They wanna build too. [2:23:41, 2:23:42]: So you build all the houses. [2:23:43, 2:23:45]: But the school is not developed. [2:23:45, 2:23:49]: That mean per house probably gonna be two to three kids. [2:23:49, 2:23:53]: Then they're gonna wind up at that elementary school, Hickory Flat. [2:23:54, 2:23:57]: And then that gonna be chaos. You're gonna have like maybe [2:23:57, 2:23:58]: Uh uh [2:23:58, 2:24:00]: Maybe twenty or thirty kids. [2:24:00, 2:24:01]: One teacher [2:24:02, 2:24:03]: And they're gonna be a problem. [2:24:03, 2:24:06]: For our kids to develop and learn. [2:24:06, 2:24:07]: And be educated. [2:24:08, 2:24:09]: So [2:24:09, 2:24:11]: That's the that's what I'm thinking about. [2:24:11, 2:24:13]: I'll oppose it, but [2:24:13, 2:24:14]: It's okay to build. [2:24:14, 2:24:16]: But to put all the houses [2:24:16, 2:24:18]: And don't do nothing to the schools. [2:24:18, 2:24:21]: Don't do none to the roads, don't do nothing to the lights. [2:24:22, 2:24:24]: That's when it's gonna be a failure. That's it. [2:24:25, 2:24:45]: Thank you, Ms. Uh Ms. Young. Um, I got another message about Mr. Jones here. I don't know how we can get him a link to get in to for this briefing presentation. If we're able to do that, fantastic. But I've also been told or seen that there's a couple other individuals that are currently on uh that want to make comments uh against so uh raise hand. So [2:24:45, 2:24:49]: So uh let me see where are these individuals? Who are they here? [2:24:50, 2:24:52]: Elisa Lyons. Elise Alliance. [2:24:53, 2:24:58]: Okay, we're okay. Miss Lions, go ahead and your name and address, please. [2:24:58, 2:25:03]: Good evening, sir. Uh my name is Eliza Lyons. We're on six fifteen North Salem Drive. [2:25:04, 2:25:06]: Uh, we've been here. [2:25:06, 2:25:17]: for a while now, along with uh some of our friends uh met the Ferry family right down the street. We've been friends with them for a long time. And as we talked in most of the community meetings previously, [2:25:18, 2:25:19]: Our [2:25:19, 2:25:28]: Primary issue is not with development. We are fine with it. We understand that growth is going to come. Henry County is a very quickly building place. [2:25:28, 2:25:33]: Uh, but we also want that to be controlled growth and planned growth. [2:25:33, 2:25:41]: This sub subdivision is going to bring too many people at once into a very compact area of the street. [2:25:41, 2:25:45]: We have other subdivisions there as long as also as well as uh [2:25:46, 2:25:48]: R Street that comes out into a very small area. [2:25:49, 2:25:56]: Which would cause congestion. There's no plans for stop signs, traffic lights, anything that would help with that issue. [2:25:57, 2:25:58]: Окурс [2:25:58, 2:26:00]: Several people have also brought up uh [2:26:00, 2:26:03]: Issues with the schools, there's no planned growth there. [2:26:04, 2:26:05]: There's no budget for it yet. [2:26:05, 2:26:06]: There's gonna be [2:26:07, 2:26:08]: Large influx of children. [2:26:09, 2:26:13]: People, cars, all these things that have not been prepped for yet. [2:26:14, 2:26:18]: with the southern uh community of this size coming into the area. [2:26:18, 2:26:19]: So again if [2:26:20, 2:26:28]: It was a smaller community coming in where it the growth would be a bit more gradual, that would be something we would be less opposed to. [2:26:30, 2:26:50]: All right, thank you, ma'am. I appreciate your comments. And I believe I saw that their Mark Jones is now online. And if he is, then uh he has a briefing. If he can do that briefing quickly and get the information out, would appreciate it. Um Mr. Jones, are you there? Yes, can you hear me? I can hear you, sir. So [2:26:50, 2:26:54]: Um is okay, there we go. Uh screen sharing. Oops. [2:26:55, 2:26:57]: Uh let me get my presentation up. I'm sorry. [2:26:57, 2:27:03]: I had a hard time getting in and I have no reason why. Why they were so hard. [2:27:04, 2:27:04]: Um [2:27:06, 2:27:09]: We go into slideshow view. [2:27:14, 2:27:15]: Get out of here. [2:27:17, 2:27:24]: Um let me just just do this. I know uh time is is is is is limited. Well time will start when you start your briefing, sir. Okay. [2:27:24, 2:27:25]: Um [2:27:25, 2:27:27]: So you can see my screen, I'll just go full screen from here. [2:27:28, 2:27:28]: Um [2:27:30, 2:27:32]: Mark my name's Mark Jones. I live at uh [2:27:32, 2:27:34]: Uh in the Westminster subdivision. [2:27:35, 2:27:37]: And I'm just gonna kinda make this brief. [2:27:38, 2:27:40]: Um as you can see here the [2:27:41, 2:27:44]: Area that's being rezoned. [2:27:44, 2:27:48]: is among m all this area which is unincorporated mc McDonna. [2:27:49, 2:27:52]: This part right here is stock bridge. So the surrounding area. [2:27:53, 2:27:58]: Most of this area is unincorporated McDonough and what's being rezoned is right here. [2:27:59, 2:28:05]: And our proposal is that this no three sides of it is RA and it's really not [2:28:05, 2:28:05]: Uh [2:28:07, 2:28:09]: ready for the that type of development. [2:28:10, 2:28:13]: Like I said, the surrounding the stock rayside. [2:28:13, 2:28:16]: You know, you have Crown Walkers is R one, Moss Point is R two. [2:28:17, 2:28:20]: Clark Metal, which on the front part of it is R two. [2:28:20, 2:28:23]: But the back part of it phase other phases are [2:28:24, 2:28:25]: It's R three. [2:28:25, 2:28:27]: And when they talk about density. [2:28:27, 2:28:33]: No, they're talking about you know battle and um the developer talks about gross density, but the zoning [2:28:34, 2:28:37]: Your zoning laws talk about net density. I'll talk about that in a minute. [2:28:39, 2:28:41]: Uh let me just kind of [2:28:41, 2:28:46]: And I appreciate the the the initial proposal obviously was a hundred and forty seven homes. [2:28:46, 2:28:51]: And um I appreciate the um developer, you know, adding some things to it, you know. [2:28:51, 2:28:52]: dropping the homes down. [2:28:53, 2:28:57]: From one thirty seven to one thirty nine. That's only a five to a five percent decrease. [2:28:58, 2:29:00]: Um, the home buys went up, which is good. [2:29:01, 2:29:04]: But you know, I said there's no standard clubhouse size. [2:29:04, 2:29:07]: Um and stuff like that. So the other [2:29:08, 2:29:14]: Thing is that, you know, value in their market analysis, they stress, you know, so many people are signing them to move to Henry County, which is true. [2:29:15, 2:29:18]: There is a strong market for people who want large high end homes. [2:29:19, 2:29:20]: But that's not a but [2:29:21, 2:29:25]: But people don't want large yards that don't want to be maintained. But there is another market as well. [2:29:26, 2:29:28]: And if you look at the imagine Henry uh [2:29:29, 2:29:30]: uh vision publication [2:29:30, 2:29:36]: There is a large market for people who have who want larger homes. [2:29:37, 2:29:44]: I mean you know, just having the small homes, uh I mean large lots on on uh large homes on small lots, there's there's more [2:29:45, 2:29:45]: In that. [2:29:46, 2:29:47]: So basically [2:29:48, 2:29:51]: We just go to go to this one right here. [2:29:53, 2:29:58]: So for Clark Mells, everything was was basically, you know, compared to that. [2:29:58, 2:30:03]: We gotta remember that took basically, you know, six years to build out that that subdivision. [2:30:03, 2:30:04]: Um [2:30:05, 2:30:09]: There's fifteen homes along Brennan Road that's developed under phase one, which is R two. [2:30:10, 2:30:11]: А сам понят і вас хейт. [2:30:11, 2:30:15]: And but the other remaining 127 homes were built. [2:30:15, 2:30:20]: under R three zoning and those houses are spaced ten to twenty feet apart. [2:30:21, 2:30:28]: And so there again, we have a R2 would give you a density, a gross density of 1.6 and a net density of 2.1. [2:30:29, 2:30:32]: But a R three gives you a gross density of three. [2:30:32, 2:30:36]: And uh and the net density of three point five. So why is that important? [2:30:39, 2:30:41]: That's because of your own zoning laws. [2:30:42, 2:30:43]: Now when you [2:30:44, 2:30:45]: For this development [2:30:47, 2:30:55]: The new development should demonstrate attention to the existing jacent neighborhoods and seek compatibility with the surrounding lot size. [2:30:55, 2:30:58]: So if you look at the medium density residential. [2:30:58, 2:31:03]: is up to six net dwelling units per area. This is net, not gross. [2:31:03, 2:31:08]: This should be low residential low density residential, which is up to two net. [2:31:08, 2:31:10]: Yeah, within per acre. [2:31:11, 2:31:20]: Mayor, I want to approve additional time. Okay. So and then again, so if you go to R2, you have three thousand square feet. [2:31:20, 2:31:25]: versus R three, which is eighteen thousand square feet, and what's not being met [2:31:25, 2:31:28]: Із ідеона до. [2:31:28, 2:31:30]: So we've got s suggested [2:31:31, 2:31:32]: as an alternative development. [2:31:32, 2:31:43]: You know, to do a upscale sync uh fifty five plus you know housing units. Cause I'm sorry, can you go back to the first that slide you just went to slide twenty real quick? One second. [2:31:48, 2:31:53]: It should be noted that these are Henry County and this is not the Stockbridge um requirements. [2:31:55, 2:32:00]: Yes, ma'am. Thank you. I just wanna I wanna see what they're talking about. That's fine. Go ahead. Okay. [2:32:04, 2:32:09]: Okay, so you know, the main thing is to remove the the purpose of this of the stock bridge zoning code. [2:32:10, 2:32:16]: is to promote the health, safety, aesthetics and convenience and order and prosperity for the general weather of the present and future. [2:32:16, 2:32:23]: And to minimize congestion and to prevent overcrowding of land, avoiding uh undue concentration of urban sprawl. [2:32:24, 2:32:26]: In closing, you know. [2:32:26, 2:32:33]: Um the Stockbridge uh PNZ members have involved with every aspect of the proposal and their recommendation was no. [2:32:34, 2:32:41]: Um you have to consider also is that the R two zoning would be an ex acceptable alternative. [2:32:41, 2:32:47]: No, that would match Clark Meadows phase one net density of two point one units per acre. [2:32:47, 2:32:52]: Which is around ninety five homes on forty eight acres.'Cause you gotta look at the math on this. [2:32:52, 2:32:55]: If you're talking about a hundred and thirty nine homes. [2:32:55, 2:33:01]: On only you know forty five or forty eight uh develop uh uh acres. [2:33:01, 2:33:03]: You know, you're talking about three units per acre. [2:33:04, 2:33:05]: And [2:33:05, 2:33:08]: That's around fourteen thousand square feet. [2:33:08, 2:33:24]: Now some of those homes on the front part of it are going to be larger, like they said. And that means the rest of them in the back are going to be smaller, closer towards the quarter quarter acre size or around a third of an acre. [2:33:24, 2:33:30]: And that's the problem that we're having because if you look at the you know the all the area around it. [2:33:30, 2:33:35]: And also, you know, they are considering the other traffic that McDonough [2:33:35, 2:33:38]: is going to be having as well because there's going to be [2:33:39, 2:33:41]: Like I saw on the picture I show before. [2:33:42, 2:33:48]: You know, they got development that's going on um Eagles Landing Parkway at the stone at um [2:33:49, 2:33:49]: Um [2:33:50, 2:33:52]: The road that runs into Brandon Road. [2:33:53, 2:33:57]: So th if they're building a large development there, there's gonna be a lot of in uh traffic. [2:33:58, 2:34:08]: not only from the Stockbridge side, but also from the McDonough side. And so anything that's really large like this is going to make the traffic even worse. And that's not being considered. [2:34:09, 2:34:19]: Because what you're seeing is everything from the stock produced uh perspective, but nothing from the other three sides of it, which is the unincorporated McDonald McDonough. [2:34:20, 2:34:37]: All right, sir. Appreciate it, Mr. Jones. Appreciate your presentation. Thank you, sir, very much. Um are there any other uh any other comments uh against? And if not, and then we'll I would end the uh this uh particular public hearing. Um [2:34:38, 2:34:58]: I don't see any others. Okay. If I have no others, then I would end this public hearing. I would end this public hearing in reference to the public comments. And now that that is ended, we did for and against. And on that note, we'll go back to the council for your final comments. And Mayor Pro Tem Alexander actually had his hand up at first. [2:34:58, 2:35:00]: Because uh I want uh [2:35:01, 2:35:05]: the applicant to come back and and respond to [2:35:06, 2:35:09]: Uh some of the assertions that were made uh by the [2:35:09, 2:35:13]: by the public. For example, Mister Jones said. [2:35:13, 2:35:15]: Uh a lot of the homes in the rear. [2:35:16, 2:35:19]: Would be smaller homes. Is that true or no? [2:35:20, 2:35:22]: Um that is not true. [2:35:22, 2:35:42]: And when we look at the um the site plan, I apologize, that's a letter I got up there. Hold on one second. Um we have um provided to you all the overall um requirements with regards to the um [2:35:42, 2:36:02]: site and I do actually have the information with regards to the unit sizes um that were that was requested and I apologize it looks like I closed my stuff accidentally um so I'm pulling it back up but I do have the actual um uh [2:36:02, 2:36:11]: lot size information um that had been requested and on the site plan, which I'm pulling up now. [2:36:18, 2:36:20]: Right here. All right. [2:36:21, 2:36:41]: So um when we look at the lots, for example, um we had increased the buffer um from 30 feet to 50 feet along this perimeter, which was cor um requested by um the community members. Um additionally, if we look at the lot sizes starting at lot. [2:36:41, 2:36:42]: eighty eight. [2:36:43, 2:37:03]: And if I go up to the screen, we do have um on the rear side of the property, um, the lots start at uh lot 68 and 69, and we are at roughly 17,000 uh square feet on lots 68 and 69. [2:37:03, 2:37:18]: Um the lots that go down uh the back side are the 12,000 square foot lots uh down a good portion um of the back of the project until we get to around 87. [2:37:19, 2:37:23]: The I'm sorry, the total amount of lots of four feet lots. [2:37:23, 2:37:42]: Okay, so I've got that information for us. Um, we've got 41 lots that are at 12,000 square feet. We've got 20 lots between 12,000 and 13,000 square feet. We've got roughly 28 lots between 13 and 15, and 50 lots between uh at 15 or up. [2:37:44, 2:37:45]: Okay, and um [2:37:45, 2:37:47]: There was a reference made to [2:37:47, 2:37:50]: There was no sidewalks on Brennan uh road. [2:37:51, 2:37:54]: Uh, does this proposal include some sidewalks with Brandon Road? [2:37:55, 2:38:15]: Absolutely. Um, we are doing 10-foot sidewalks along the frontage um of Brandon Road. And so where currently there are no sidewalks, when you look at the um community at Clark Meadows, they only did sidewalks right at the entrance. Um, we are doing sidewalks the entire length of the frontage. Um [2:38:15, 2:38:27]: um on Brandon Road and then this little slice of area here um going up towards North Salem Road. So we have um uh well over I don't know what the length of that um [2:38:28, 2:38:32]: area is here, but I'm sure it's more than a a thousand lineal feet. [2:38:32, 2:38:46]: I'm sorry, attorney battle. I'm sorry, Mayor Pro Tem, but can you repeat those numbers for me a little bit slower? I'm trying to write them down and and get it off. I got 41 homes. There you go. There you go. It's a hundred and [2:38:47, 2:38:48]: Thank you. [2:38:48, 2:39:08]: There you go. And I can talk while I'm doing that. So there's um uh we do have sidewalks along the entire frontage again. Um I don't have the exact uh lineal uh footage along there, but um it is a pretty good distance because we're almost at the entrance to Moss uh Point and all the way past the entrance. [2:39:08, 2:39:11]: entrance um at uh at Clark Meadows. [2:39:15, 2:39:20]: And those will be ten foot wide sidewalks. Will there be will there be side entry garages in this community? [2:39:21, 2:39:31]: Yes, there will be side entry garages on the larger lots. Um, we're expecting probably about uh 15% of those lots, 10 to 15 percent on the lots to have side entry garages. [2:39:32, 2:39:33]: Okay. All right. Thank you. [2:39:35, 2:39:35]: Okay. [2:39:36, 2:39:36]: Yeah. [2:39:37, 2:39:57]: Go right ahead, ma'am. Go ahead. Um one of the things I would um like to point out um was that the um individual, uh Mr. Uh Jones, who was talking about um the uh Clark Meadows community and the surrounding area, um again, we are um uh obliged to governor. [2:39:57, 2:40:17]: ourselves in accordance with the Stock Bridge land use comprehensive plan, in addition to the Stock Bridge Zoning Ordinance. And when we look at the Stock Bridge Zoning Ordinance and the Land Development Plan, we are squarely in line with the development that has already occurred in this area. [2:40:17, 2:40:37]: For the city of Stockbridge. Provides for different requirements with regards to square footage. For example, in the county, the square footage for R3 is 18,000 square foot, whereas in the city, the minimum [2:40:37, 2:40:57]: lot size is 12,000 square feet for R3. And so we are exceeding, we are quite honestly, in my opinion, really in the middle because we've got uh 12,000 square foot lots, but our average lot size is over 14,000 square foot lots, and we have lots that go as high as [2:40:57, 2:41:17]: Is 22,000 square feet. So we are trying to provide a range of lots. And we believe that if you look at the Clark Meadows community, which again was zoned PD, it was zoned PD, but in terms of um how [2:41:17, 2:41:37]: How they made that distinction, and I'm showing you the plat, final plat information from there. They note that while they rezoned it to PD, which was allowed, the specs kind of that they use for it was around R2 and R3. And so that's where that distinction. [2:41:37, 2:41:57]: Distinction comes. It's not that somebody flipped the script and did something different. They were simply showing how they calculated for that plan development, which used both the R2 and the R3 requirements at that time. And um when we look at those R three requirements. [2:41:56, 2:42:14]: You can see here that the minimum lot size for R2 was 15, or at least how they put it on here was 15,750. And for R3, for whatever reason, they've got 7,472.74. I'm not sure if that was truly the minimum back in 2012. [2:42:14, 2:42:34]: five or six when this was done. Um but clearly the minimum lot size now is 12,000 square feet. And so we are in line with that. And with regards to the R2, the minimum size um that well the minimum size now was actually 30,000 square feet. But that was not what it was apparently. [2:42:34, 2:42:54]: Back when this project was developed. But at that time, we also know that they were bringing sewer into this area. So those larger lots were sewer lots. I mean, sorry, were septic tank lots, and we have a sewer lot. And that is why we don't need the 30,000 square foot lot size. [2:42:54, 2:42:55]: Yeah. [2:42:55, 2:43:03]: So tell me again, how the size of the actual home that you're gonna build, the minimum size and the largest home. [2:43:05, 2:43:25]: The largest home may it exceed 3,000 square feet. I mean, it depends on what the homeowner wants because we will have different floor um layouts that will allow them to increase based on what their spending power is. Understand that any builder wants you to buy the most expensive, biggest house that you can buy. [2:43:25, 2:43:45]: built so in this case what we were suggesting was a average lot size of 2500 square feet which means we're going to have homes that are going to be bigger homes that be smaller but if it comes down to it and you want a 2500 square foot minimum I think that my client is willing to go along with that 2500 square foot minimum. [2:43:45, 2:44:03]: But understand what we were saying is that we would have a range, but it's always in the best interest of the builder to build the biggest house that they can build for that client that wants to buy it. I mean, they're not here to try and squeeze you in a small house when you run a big house. They want you to spend all your money on as much house as you can get. [2:44:04, 2:44:04]: Thank you. [2:44:06, 2:44:13]: Council, any other questions at all before we uh look at the yeah, Miss Councilwoman Gantt go ahead, please. Thank you. I have a couple more. [2:44:14, 2:44:15]: Um and [2:44:16, 2:44:18]: I actually have a suggestion. Uh [2:44:19, 2:44:19]: Um [2:44:21, 2:44:26]: Is there anyone on planning and zoning board that's here tonight? [2:44:27, 2:44:45]: We don't have any planning and zoning members that are present in this meeting tonight. No, I don't think they're pre I don't I don't recall the scene anybody's uh from the planning zoning board. No. I'm just curious as to why they unanimously voted no, but I also [2:44:45, 2:44:45]: Um [2:44:47, 2:44:52]: would like in the future that we have at least the chair here when we're listening to these type of [2:44:53, 2:44:55]: Hearing so that we can get [2:44:55, 2:44:57]: To take from the planning and zoning board. [2:44:57, 2:44:59]: All at once, not [2:44:59, 2:45:03]: one on one but with everyone present so we can have them here so we can hear from them. [2:45:04, 2:45:04]: Um [2:45:05, 2:45:07]: Personally. And then [2:45:09, 2:45:11]: I wrote I took a note here. [2:45:13, 2:45:20]: That one of the arguments that I heard from the citizens was that the other communities are zoned. [2:45:20, 2:45:25]: R one and R2 that are surrounding this subdivision. [2:45:26, 2:45:27]: Yeah. [2:45:27, 2:45:32]: I wanted to ask m probably this is probably for Linda. [2:45:33, 2:45:35]: Ведена да із кейс. [2:45:35, 2:45:39]: Um I I do understand that some of those are in Henry County. [2:45:40, 2:45:51]: Um, but I wanted to make sure I wanted to see whether or not that was the case. I do know that the the neighborhood directly across Clark Meadows is R2 and R three, as you mentioned earlier. [2:45:52, 2:45:53]: I would like to [2:45:53, 2:45:56]: No, if that's the case with the surrounding neighborhoods. [2:45:57, 2:46:00]: directly neighboring this subdivision. [2:46:01, 2:46:03]: And um [2:46:03, 2:46:07]: I also would like to suggest that maybe we consider our two. [2:46:08, 2:46:08]: Um [2:46:09, 2:46:13]: based off of some of the conditions that we're requiring as of now. [2:46:14, 2:46:15]: Um [2:46:15, 2:46:18]: And based off of the numbers and and what I'm saying. [2:46:18, 2:46:21]: With the description of the homes, we got forty one. [2:46:21, 2:46:23]: Between twelve thousand [2:46:24, 2:46:26]: Yeah, forty one hundred to twelve thousand square feet now. [2:46:27, 2:46:30]: You're talking to someone who comes from a neighborhood. [2:46:31, 2:46:32]: Of eleven hundred [2:46:33, 2:46:52]: Homes, is that not right, Mayor? No, almost not. Just under 900, I'm sorry. Okay, I'm sorry. We're we're we're in a um I live in a neighborhood of 900 homes and a and our roads aren't as small, as large as the road or wide as Brennan Road is at all. Um, and that's one subdivision. [2:46:52, 2:46:55]: Um we have several on our street. [2:46:56, 2:47:00]: I'm all for smart growth. I'm all for making sure. [2:47:01, 2:47:16]: that we do the right thing. Um I appreciate the developers working with us, willing to change with us. They've made every change that we've asked for so far in regards to the conditions being met. [2:47:17, 2:47:23]: Um, Clark Meadows has the majority of their homes at R two. I would like to see R two. [2:47:24, 2:47:27]: Um more of the R two residential look. [2:47:27, 2:47:35]: I do want the community to know that I'm an advocate for as a divorcee and as a single mother. [2:47:36, 2:47:37]: Um a single parent. [2:47:38, 2:47:46]: I'm an advocate for affordable housing, quality affordable housing for all. If we don't, we'll miss those. [2:47:47, 2:47:54]: Teachers will miss those law enforcement officers, um, each subdivision, even Eagles Landing. [2:47:54, 2:47:56]: Country Club has an enclave. [2:47:57, 2:48:05]: So we need to take that into consideration every time we look into developments. And just because we don't have a development agreement in place. [2:48:06, 2:48:09]: We need to consider we still that doesn't mean we can't mimic it. [2:48:11, 2:48:16]: So let's be smart about it. Um, I hear our citizens loud and clear. [2:48:16, 2:48:25]: Um you know, we are a growing county. I appreciate the fact that you do accept the fact that we are growing county. We are not rural. [2:48:26, 2:48:43]: But we do want to make sure that and we can't please everyone, but we want to make sense. And so I need to know if that surrounding area, I'm gonna go back to that question, whether or not a surrounding area, those are those neighborhoods are zoned R1, R2, R3. What are the majority of those neighborhoods on? [2:48:45, 2:49:05]: Um yes, my information from the count county is that uh yes, uh some of those areas are zone R A and R one and R two. Um uh would like to point out though that part of the reason that uh I believe that this um developer asked for R3 is because the presence of the floodplain. [2:49:05, 2:49:20]: plane in the in the middle of the property and in a big part of the properties floodplain unbuildable areas and so therefore needed to uh request R three in order to um that in order to that that is not true. [2:49:20, 2:49:21]: Okay. [2:49:21, 2:49:41]: We we don't have floodplain throughout um this project. There's some floodplain on uh the um exterior, near the exterior lines. We asked for R three again because under your R two regulations, you're required to have a 30,000 square foot lot, which is intended primarily in our opinion. [2:49:41, 2:50:01]: For lots that are on septic. And if you look again at Clark Meadows, I think there was a misunderstanding. The top portion here is are the R2 lots. There are a total of 15 of those at 15,000 square feet, which is actually larger than what is required under the R2. [2:50:01, 2:50:21]: R3 requirement now. And then under R3, they were showing all of these lots, which are at roughly 7,500 square feet. And that's throughout the mass majority. There are over a hundred um lots, a hundred and I think it's 130, 120-something lots. [2:50:21, 2:50:41]: Within the Clark Meadows community, all of which are at this R3 standard that they placed for that. And so from our perspective, we are consistent with the R three that is in the Clark Meadows community. We are consistent with [2:50:41, 2:51:01]: the uh the lot size um for uh clark meadows um with regards to um uh moss point yes they do have um larger lots that is an older community um we are trying to make sure that we have lots that are uh marketable um we are [2:51:01, 2:51:21]: not in unincorporated Henry County. I certainly appreciate that their lots are at RA, but they are not within the city limits. We don't know what those lots ultimately will be rezoned to and the city of Stockbridge will not uh have the final say with regards to what those lots [2:51:21, 2:51:41]: May ultimately be. But there's no question that you all have the ultimate decision on what these lots will be. And we believe that we are consistent with what's already in the city. And at um, you know, it's almost as if one is saying that there's something wrong with Clark Meadows. Clark Meadows is a [2:51:41, 2:52:01]: beautiful community. And what um our conversations with those um at least on the board of uh directors for them was that you know they wanted something that was better um than what they have um by lot size um the the um building width um is [2:52:00, 2:52:20]: actually and there was a variance obtained back when the Clark Meadows community was developed that allowed for only a 10 foot distance between the houses. We have 20 feet of distance between our homes and their minimum lot size is 7,500 square feet. And [2:52:20, 2:52:40]: And our minimum lot size is 12,000 square feet. So we are bigger than what you already have approved in this city on the other side of the street. In terms of that being the most recent community developed, our density is lower than them, and our density is lower than Moss Point. [2:52:40, 2:53:00]: So we are squarely in line with what is in the city and what's in the city's purview, in the city's limits, and within the city's voting power. The RA that surrounds will not remain RA. It will not remain RA forever. It's too much land and there's too much development coming into this area. [2:53:00, 2:53:20]: And the Board of Commissioners for Henry County will make a decision about how they want to rezone that and whether or not they want to allow for added density, because I don't see any developer coming in at RA, which is an agricultural zoning, to come in and develop under the current zoning regulations. [2:53:22, 2:53:27]: Okay. Thank you for that. Councilman uh Gantt it was still on you. You have any further questions? [2:53:29, 2:53:30]: No, um [2:53:32, 2:53:39]: I was like, no, your honor. No, I don't have any other questions. I don't um at this time, no. I I just I don't. [2:53:40, 2:53:45]: Okay. All right. Anybody else? Any questions, concerns? [2:53:46, 2:53:50]: And if not, okay, I'm sorry, Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [2:53:52, 2:53:54]: Thank you, Mayor. Um [2:53:55, 2:54:01]: Is Mr. Berry and Mr. Washington still on with us? Yeah, I'm going to get [2:54:01, 2:54:02]: They're online. [2:54:04, 2:54:05]: Go ahead. [2:54:05, 2:54:06]: Yeah. Yes, we have. [2:54:07, 2:54:08]: Hi. Okay. Um [2:54:09, 2:54:20]: I have a question in regards to the legal aspect of this. Um, I'm new at this and this would be the first development that I am. [2:54:20, 2:54:21]: Reviewing. [2:54:21, 2:54:22]: Um [2:54:22, 2:54:26]: and ultimately will decide whether to approve or oppose this. [2:54:27, 2:54:35]: Can you give me um what the legal language is pertaining to um the approval or [2:54:35, 2:54:38]: Rejection of a development. [2:54:38, 2:54:39]: I'd heard, you know. [2:54:40, 2:54:41]: People say that we can't [2:54:41, 2:54:43]: deny this development. [2:54:43, 2:54:44]: Due to [2:54:44, 2:54:48]: Overcrowding of classrooms. I've heard we can't deny this. [2:54:48, 2:54:49]: Um [2:54:49, 2:54:50]: Based on traffic. [2:54:51, 2:54:52]: Infrastructure. [2:54:53, 2:54:55]: Can you give me a little bit of legal? [2:54:55, 2:54:57]: um counsel as to how I should [2:54:58, 2:54:59]: Do this. [2:55:01, 2:55:02]: Well [2:55:04, 2:55:07]: That's not a easy question to be able to answer. [2:55:07, 2:55:09]: Because part of what we've got to do [2:55:10, 2:55:10]: Is [2:55:11, 2:55:30]: The zoning codes that you all have in place do allow for feedback and for you all to make a decision. But whether or not those zoning codes that you would use if you would deny could come in conflict with state law, which would mean they would be able to appeal and possibly get the zoning ordinance possibly overturned. [2:55:31, 2:55:32]: And so that's why it's not a [2:55:33, 2:55:35]: A clear answer like that unless it's something [2:55:35, 2:55:38]: It has to be very specific for what the denial purpose would be. [2:55:39, 2:55:41]: And I'll ask Mr. Berry with his thoughts on. [2:55:44, 2:55:48]: Yeah, I mean I I I think that's generally correct. I I think it's a broader [2:55:48, 2:55:50]: You know, sort of it's a it's the police power. [2:55:51, 2:55:52]: So you have to figure out if this [2:55:53, 2:55:54]: Yep, the [2:55:55, 2:56:00]: still would comply with the public health, safety, welfare of the the residents of the city of Stockbridge. [2:56:01, 2:56:10]: I mean i if you're looking for sort of any specific criteria, I don't know, you know, that there's a factor or a list of one through ten or any criteria, anything like that to be considered. [2:56:11, 2:56:15]: Um, and right, this is a a rezoning as well. [2:56:19, 2:56:21]: All right, thank you. Ms. Barber, anything else? [2:56:21, 2:56:29]: Yes, okay. So I understand that there will be some who won't agree to this development, no matter what adjustments are made. [2:56:29, 2:56:34]: The fact is this land will not remain undeveloped forever. [2:56:34, 2:56:38]: Um the owner has the right to to develop the property. [2:56:38, 2:56:42]: In accordance with our standards and state laws. [2:56:42, 2:56:54]: Um, I appreciate the developer for hearing the concerns of the community members and making a good faith effort to bring about a quality development that will be consistent. [2:56:54, 2:56:56]: with all the other developments in the area. [2:56:57, 2:56:57]: Um [2:56:59, 2:57:02]: I don't believe a couple of questions were answered. [2:57:03, 2:57:07]: When uh pertaining to the um distance. [2:57:07, 2:57:08]: Um [2:57:09, 2:57:16]: The width gutter to gutter in the streets. Um, is that gentleman still on the line with us? [2:57:17, 2:57:17]: Yes, ma'am. [2:57:18, 2:57:20]: Can you tell me what the distance is from [2:57:20, 2:57:26]: Gutter to gutter. It's twenty six feet from the back of the curb to the back of the curb. [2:57:26, 2:57:28]: So the curve is two feet wide on each side. [2:57:30, 2:57:34]: And so the but the total distance across is is uh is twenty six feet. [2:57:34, 2:57:38]: And that's a Henry County standard, like I said, that's been used for the last [2:57:39, 2:57:43]: twenty five years, at least as long as I've been practicing in Henry County, it's that's been the standard. [2:57:44, 2:57:45]: Okay. [2:57:45, 2:57:46]: Um [2:57:46, 2:57:51]: My next question was the sidewalks on both sides of the street. [2:57:51, 2:57:52]: Um is [2:57:53, 2:57:56]: Is now the time for us to talk about those um [2:57:57, 2:57:59]: Additional conditions. [2:57:59, 2:58:00]: Um [2:58:00, 2:58:08]: Or is it another time that we'll talk about it? Because I mentioned I'd like to see sidewalks on both sides of the street. [2:58:09, 2:58:14]: We we can agree to the sidewalks on both sides of the street. [2:58:14, 2:58:16]: Um as a condition. [2:58:16, 2:58:22]: Awesome. Thank you. Um what about um you all already addressed the clubhouse? [2:58:24, 2:58:30]: Okay. Um so I've heard several times about the density of this development. [2:58:30, 2:58:34]: Is there a opportunity for you all to [2:58:34, 2:58:39]: decrease the density and increase the lot sizes. I know that um [2:58:41, 2:58:50]: What you provided us with the breakdown of the homes in the square footage. But I know when buyers come there, they're gonna. [2:58:50, 2:58:51]: Request. [2:58:51, 2:58:54]: whatever lot sizes they want. Um [2:58:55, 2:58:55]: You have [2:58:56, 2:58:58]: uh allocated forty one. [2:58:58, 2:59:02]: um lots with 12,000 square feet. [2:59:02, 2:59:07]: Suppose you have more people who want larger lots that come in. [2:59:07, 2:59:07]: Um [2:59:08, 2:59:13]: You're not just tied into just that forty-one lots of twelve. [2:59:14, 2:59:16]: Twelve thousand fi square feet are you? [2:59:16, 2:59:17]: Yes. [2:59:18, 2:59:38]: Yes, because we would have already put in the infrastructure and had our land development permit and final plat. Um so when um homeowners uh come in to view, um most of them are not looking at necessarily the lot size because our lot size is actually in comparison, if you look at other municipalities. [2:59:38, 2:59:58]: And other counties. I mean, the lot size that we are proposing is actually larger than most of the lot sizes. I can tell you, this is the only developer I've had that are doing 12,000 square foot lots or higher. Most of the lots that I'm looking at and developers looking at are in. [2:59:58, 3:00:18]: Anywhere between 5,500 square feet to 7,500 square feet, much closer to the lot size that you've got in Clark Meadows. So I will tell you now that we personally cannot drop lower in terms of the number of units that we have. We did drop the units initially from the 47 to the [3:00:18, 3:00:38]: the hundred and thirty nine um lots. And you know, based on the infrastructure costs, the home costs by doing the four-sided brick homes along with all the infrastructure costs that we have, we would be, you know, the fewer homes you have, definitely the higher the price point. [3:00:37, 3:00:57]: Point, number one, um, the less homes there are to share in all of the amenities that we're putting in. Because remember, there are going to be HOA dues that these homeowners have to share in order to maintain and upkeep all of the two uh amenity areas that we. [3:00:57, 3:01:17]: have which is actually larger than the other subdivisions around. For example, Clark Meadows only has one uh primary um amenity area we will have two um some of the places on uh some of the other subdivisions around here don't have as much amenity area in green space we also have walking trails within this [3:01:17, 3:01:37]: community as well. So when you lessen the number of units, you are increasing the burden on those residents who will be living in that community in terms of splitting up that cost once the developer is gone for those HOA responsibilities. So we are trying to keep the price point [3:01:37, 3:01:51]: Points between that 330 to 350 as an entry point. We believe that's a good entry point for new families coming in. It doesn't completely block out. [3:01:51, 3:02:11]: um uh firefighters and and and teachers and the like if they are quite honestly if they are married or have a partner that um can help um get to that um house size because at a hundred about three hundred and fifty thousand dollars you're you've got to be making uh a nice little chunk of change in order uh to be able to afford those [3:02:11, 3:02:31]: those homes in this market. So we we believe that the 139 units is is our bottom line number for the project. If if I'm incorrect, Neil, you can correct me on that point, but I believe that we've kind of hit our bottom for the number of units and the and the size that we are proposing. [3:02:31, 3:02:51]: Did kind of adjust that when we moved around and lost some of the lots, and then also added in this additional amenity area because we started out with basically one amenity area with uh the walking trail. And then we added in the swimming pool and the additional amenities because we understood that that was what [3:02:51, 3:02:58]: what the community wanted, that they wanted those additional amenities, but that comes at a price for the people who ultimately will live there. [3:02:59, 3:03:19]: Yeah, that's correct, Michelle. I mean, and we look you know, with everything that we've added to this development, the reduction of lots, the increase in amenities, um, we've committed to doing a a great entrance. We've hired a landscape architect, um, I think he's out of Alpharetta to design our amenities and [3:03:19, 3:03:39]: And the infrastructure costs that we're facing. I mean, this is not gonna be an inexpensive development by any means. These lots are gonna be in the upper 60s, 70s, maybe even 75,000 by the time we're done with them all. I was looking up some records the other day on Brandon Road. [3:03:39, 3:03:51]: These will be almost double the cost of what the the lots at Clark Meadows sold for. Um almost double the cost of the subdivision up the street at the time. So [3:03:52, 3:04:05]: You know, we're not cutting corners. Um, we are in this to make a profit, and that's why we're we're trying to invest in the city of Stockbridge. Um, and there's a there's a place where X equals Y, where we can only have [3:04:06, 3:04:11]: Um so many lots and then uh at the same time provide great amenities. [3:04:12, 3:04:28]: We've also provided uh 20 acres or so of green space, which we're setting aside for a community feel. And um then we've been asked, you know, to add add additional sidewalks, which is fine, then a clubhouse. And so the things that we're talking about here are [3:04:29, 3:04:49]: features that you find in large multi hundred lot subdivisions. And I know that you know you may not take my word for that, but that's that's what that's where when we develop, that's what we see. Um not in subdivisions that are 139 lots. And we are, you know, committed to do that because we've [3:04:49, 3:05:08]: We've heard the city of Stockbridge say they want quality, they want uh to attract uh certain features in these developments. And so we're quite frankly taking a big risk in what we've rolled out here, and um we need a certain number of lots to be able to afford um the features that we're talking about. [3:05:11, 3:05:12]: That's true. [3:05:13, 3:05:16]: Okay, Miss Uh Gantt, I believe you had a question still. [3:05:17, 3:05:21]: Yeah, I and I didn't address one thing. There was a citizen that mentioned [3:05:22, 3:05:37]: Um, that they wanted more amenities. They were against the project, but they wanted more restaurants, more activities here in our community. And I just wanted to let everyone know, just because it what it what it sounds like to me. [3:05:38, 3:05:42]: Uh is it's totally opposite. I want the citizens to know. [3:05:42, 3:06:01]: that rural areas are rule because without the stores and without the restaurants, because they have a small population, the higher our population, the more amenities, restaurants, activities, businesses we have. So it's actually totally opposite. [3:06:02, 3:06:05]: You'll hear that a lot. Um, the more we have [3:06:06, 3:06:09]: But let's say I hear all the time people want a trader Joe's, for instance. [3:06:09, 3:06:13]: Trader Joe's go only comes to highly populated areas. [3:06:14, 3:06:20]: They're not gonna go to a rural area and they're not gonna go to a a neighbor an area that only with neighborhoods of [3:06:20, 3:06:21]: A hundred [3:06:21, 3:06:31]: here and a hundred there, a hundred there, unless it's some highly condensed density place. Um I wanted to let people know that and I meant to say that earlier on. [3:06:31, 3:06:36]: Um but I really don't have a question in this regard. Um [3:06:36, 3:06:40]: I just kind of really hope that we mimic [3:06:40, 3:06:47]: The R three, R two call meadows. That's my biggest concern. R two, R three, very limited R three. [3:06:48, 3:06:48]: Um [3:06:49, 3:07:01]: And that's my only hope. I also want to mention there has been concerns. We had issues with a subdivision Pine View. I want to make sure from our attorneys as well as from Ms. Logan. [3:07:02, 3:07:05]: that we have everything completed. [3:07:05, 3:07:22]: That we, you know, there are street lights, there are lights for the stockwalks. There are whatever we need, all the conditions that we need to amend and change need to be changed. That's my biggest concern. And I don't know what the time frame of that is, if we can approve tonight or whether or not we can wait. [3:07:23, 3:07:25]: And come back in two weeks and approve it. [3:07:25, 3:07:28]: Um, but I I want those written out and spelled out. [3:07:29, 3:07:37]: We want to make sure that the project is complete and that developers don't walk away. And I'm sorry, developers, we don't we we've been burned before. That's all. [3:07:38, 3:07:39]: That's one again, if I may. [3:07:39, 3:07:41]: Where do you want us to get these conditions from? [3:07:44, 3:07:59]: Well, I think but that's what we talked about all along through during the conversation, these additional conditions that were being brought up and I believe the uh developer has agreed to them. I Okay, I have about the sidewalks and all that. I didn't know that it was another development that she wanted us to take in this. [3:08:00, 3:08:03]: No, no, there isn't another there isn't another uh [3:08:04, 3:08:10]: development. What we're saying is that the can the new conditions that we're adding in be met. [3:08:11, 3:08:13]: Including the amount. [3:08:13, 3:08:14]: A people that can [3:08:15, 3:08:18]: uh of capacity for the clubhouse in general. [3:08:18, 3:08:20]: But you know, there to me. [3:08:21, 3:08:22]: There needs to be something. [3:08:23, 3:08:28]: Right now we don't have any of those things in writing. We did get the proposal tonight. [3:08:28, 3:08:31]: We need to have a list of those conditions. [3:08:31, 3:08:33]: And then vote on those conditions. [3:08:34, 3:08:35]: That's a mob. [3:08:36, 3:08:40]: Okay, Miss Battle, we're fine with working with you to get those conditions. [3:08:41, 3:08:44]: And then those will be the ones that we attach to [3:08:44, 3:08:48]: The ordinance or the resolution that we file. [3:08:48, 3:08:53]: That that's fine. I'm I'm I'm fine with that. Um w when is your next meeting? [3:08:53, 3:08:54]: Let's [3:08:54, 3:09:01]: Hold on. Hold on. So so st stand by. Let her she asked a question. Okay. Miss Hollett. Ms. Hollett, when's our next meeting? [3:09:02, 3:09:08]: What it it's going to be our work session. The thirtieth work session. Thirtieth of the end of the month. [3:09:09, 3:09:11]: Mars thirtieth Miss Bell. [3:09:12, 3:09:13]: Thank you. [3:09:15, 3:09:23]: Mr. Candy, are you are you uh complete with all your questions and concerns right now? That's it. I just want to make sure we have everything taken care of, making sure that [3:09:24, 3:09:25]: All conditions are met. [3:09:25, 3:09:27]: All right, good deal. Miraport Tim. [3:09:28, 3:09:32]: Go ahead. See, this is where we're kinda out of practice. [3:09:32, 3:09:34]: on zoning cases because [3:09:34, 3:09:38]: If if you watch Henry County and you watch the commissioners do it. [3:09:38, 3:09:41]: The staff can simply take the notes right now. [3:09:42, 3:09:44]: As we list out what the conditions are. [3:09:44, 3:09:47]: And they can actually write them down, put them into the record. [3:09:47, 3:09:50]: And the attorney can create the document with them. [3:09:51, 3:09:51]: On there. [3:09:52, 3:09:54]: That's how it works. They do that all the time. [3:09:54, 3:09:57]: You don't have to come back. You can actually write them out right now. [3:09:58, 3:10:00]: All you got all we need to do is [3:10:00, 3:10:02]: You put those conditions. [3:10:02, 3:10:03]: In the motion. [3:10:03, 3:10:05]: And then when we put the conditions into motion. [3:10:06, 3:10:08]: Then the attorney jots them down. [3:10:08, 3:10:11]: And creates the document. Is that correct, sir? Mr Wash? [3:10:12, 3:10:18]: We can yes once you what we have to know what you approved to be to put it into the motion. Right, right. I I plan on putting that into the motion. [3:10:19, 3:10:25]: Okay. Yes, we have pre-drafted we have pre-drafted an an ordinance on this, which we did send to Madam Clerk. [3:10:25, 3:10:27]: And so we could amend that right now, yes. [3:10:27, 3:10:31]: Okay, in that case what I would like to do to make a motion for approval. [3:10:31, 3:10:34]: I would like to uh add certain conditions. [3:10:35, 3:10:36]: Uh the first condition [3:10:36, 3:10:40]: uh would be that we have sidewalks on both sides of the street. [3:10:43, 3:10:45]: А the second condition. [3:10:45, 3:10:48]: Would be the builder has already agreed that we have [3:10:48, 3:10:51]: A minimum house size of twenty five hundred square feet. [3:10:57, 3:10:59]: Uh the third condition would be [3:11:00, 3:11:06]: Uh the clubhouse that we would wish to see. And I'm gonna give on this a little bit. I heard from the citizens. [3:11:06, 3:11:08]: So instead of making it fifty. [3:11:08, 3:11:10]: That you would make it uh [3:11:10, 3:11:12]: A capacity of forty instead of fifty. [3:11:14, 3:11:32]: Councilman Alexander, Mayor Proteam Alexander, these are your conditions. This is not the mayor's council. You get the vote on it. You get the vote. Yeah, but don't you think we should do that and discuss it and have everything this this this is a vote. Well can I finish my motion, please? [3:11:33, 3:11:38]: Let hold on a second. Let him go finish his motion. Go ahead. Let me give my point of order for his mayor. [3:11:38, 3:11:40]: Okay, what's your point or Miss Blount? [3:11:40, 3:11:44]: My point of order is we as elected body. [3:11:45, 3:11:48]: We don't imprompt to sit up here and set standards. [3:11:49, 3:11:54]: Without this I've said it before, the without the elected body coming together as a whole. [3:11:55, 3:12:12]: We need to come together as a whole, not Mr. Alexander sitting here impromptu deciding what he wants for this project, and then sit here and we vote on this project when we have staff to give us in writing what we've already talked about, what adjustment needs to be made. [3:12:13, 3:12:19]: He's sitting here like he's making the sole decision what's going on. Not not excuse me, sir. [3:12:21, 3:12:28]: Sitting here saying what he's gonna adjust, what he's gonna do, these are what we do. See, we cannot negotiate. [3:12:28, 3:12:30]: Or operate this way. [3:12:32, 3:12:40]: That he's gonna prompt to make a motion to decide what he's gonna give the people and we can either vote for it or not. It doesn't work that way. [3:12:40, 3:12:55]: Well what it amounts to if he makes the motion, then you either it pr motion gets approved or not, there'll be further discussion on the issue. And then that those were those uh those issues and thoughts will come out. You've already made some comments and on that aspect as well. Um but anyway, so it um [3:12:56, 3:13:00]: And and when when he's finished with the motion, it's gotta get a second and we'll have further discussion and we'll go down that road. [3:13:01, 3:13:13]: The reason that I say that is that everybody has to vote on this. If you don't like it, don't vote for it. And then we could uh offer up another one. But in the end, this developer has bent over backwards for us. [3:13:14, 3:13:18]: Аз the folks who said it in the very beginning. [3:13:18, 3:13:22]: I've never seen I would like for us to return to the motion now. [3:13:22, 3:13:24]: All right. Comment section. [3:13:24, 3:13:33]: I'm doing exactly that. I'm making a motion. And that motion includes the the the explanation. You can do I you can't stop me from speaking on on that. [3:13:34, 3:13:39]: Uh finish out the motion, please. All the things you want to add for your corrections, uh please finish that. [3:13:39, 3:13:40]: Okay. [3:13:40, 3:13:41]: Oh [3:13:41, 3:13:44]: I would uh dictate that a rendering [3:13:44, 3:13:45]: That they pull. [3:13:46, 3:13:49]: Would be uh the rendering as display tonight. [3:13:50, 3:13:52]: uh in the community that we actually [3:13:52, 3:13:55]: Observe in the rendering that was showed to us tonight. [3:13:55, 3:13:58]: We want a pool very similar to that. [3:13:58, 3:13:59]: uh rendering. [3:14:00, 3:14:02]: That we actually saw. [3:14:02, 3:14:03]: Uh on tonight. [3:14:04, 3:14:11]: And in the end, we want to make sure uh Linda it the street lights are included in in in the zoning already, correct, Linda? [3:14:13, 3:14:19]: I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. Uh street lights are already in the in the development agreement, street lights required. [3:14:20, 3:14:32]: I d we haven't d talked about streetlights. Uh if I may, that is that is in your ordinance. Street lights and underground utilities are already in the City of Stockbridge ordinance for your development. [3:14:33, 3:14:34]: Okay. Well that's what [3:14:34, 3:14:37]: Okay, so street lights are already required. [3:14:37, 3:14:39]: Uh so we do not have to uh [3:14:39, 3:14:41]: Make those particular ones happen. [3:14:42, 3:14:47]: Now if the in the end, if you don't want to mandate what how many people in the clubhouse [3:14:47, 3:14:50]: You don't have to mandate the number of people in the clubhouse. [3:14:50, 3:14:54]: But then again, we're trying to show these developers that we're business friendly. [3:14:54, 3:14:59]: The point where we just go ahead with the motion. Somebody has already made [3:15:00, 3:15:13]: the decision already in order to do what we need to do. So uh Mr. Washington, do you have uh written down the exact language for the changes that need to be made? [3:15:13, 3:15:14]: To get the community [3:15:15, 3:15:18]: uh that has been described tonight by the builder. [3:15:18, 3:15:20]: And by the community for the most part. [3:15:20, 3:15:23]: I have sidewalks on both sides of the street. [3:15:23, 3:15:25]: Minimum house size twenty five hundred square feet. [3:15:26, 3:15:28]: Clubhouse capacity of forty people. [3:15:28, 3:15:31]: pool rendering as displayed tonight are very similar. [3:15:31, 3:15:35]: Street lights and underground is already a part, the ordin is already a part of [3:15:36, 3:15:38]: The ordinances that we have. [3:15:38, 3:15:45]: And then I guess the other thing would be we we would if we're going to pass this, we would it would be advisable to get [3:15:45, 3:15:54]: a determination about the moratorium that we currently have in place about the rental about the rental. We want to make that's that's that's the next one. We want to make sure that there's a clause [3:15:55, 3:15:57]: Uh that indicates owner occupied. [3:15:58, 3:16:02]: versus rental. We wanna owner want owner occupied. [3:16:02, 3:16:03]: In this agreement. [3:16:09, 3:16:14]: Can can we state uh that it would be a fifteen percent rental cap? [3:16:16, 3:16:21]: Uh that's that yes, that's reasonable. In the end you could have some rentals in the community. [3:16:21, 3:16:24]: But in the end, uh what we want to do is we want it to be [3:16:24, 3:16:26]: a owner occupied community. So [3:16:26, 3:16:29]: There is some flexibility to have some real in there, so [3:16:29, 3:16:35]: Uh that that's that's not un that's not unreasonable to have I mean, have a cap. It'd be a fifteen percent cap. [3:16:36, 3:16:36]: Right. [3:16:38, 3:16:40]: Okay, so tha that's not unreasonable. [3:16:41, 3:16:41]: Okay. [3:16:42, 3:16:48]: So I just have the I just have those six is the ones you're proposing. With the six from being owner occupied with the fifteen percent rental panel. [3:16:50, 3:16:50]: Right. [3:16:51, 3:16:51]: Mm-hmm. [3:16:52, 3:17:03]: Now I have a question. Well, actually, uh the question, what whatever happened to the the 10 foot sidewalks on the front part of Brandon Road in front of the community? Was that already in the agreement or is that something that needs to be added? [3:17:04, 3:17:04]: Yeah. [3:17:04, 3:17:06]: It's already in the agreement. [3:17:07, 3:17:10]: Okay. All right. Is there a second to that motion? [3:17:13, 3:17:15]: I'm sorry, Ms. Holliday, go ahead, please. [3:17:15, 3:17:20]: I just wanna make sure there are there are conditions I believe that we're already [3:17:20, 3:17:36]: laid out correct Linda and I just want to make sure though these that you just stated um Mayor Pro Tem are in addition to the though the ones that I just stated are in addition to yes the ones that Linda recommended that staff recommended. That's correct. Thank you. Thank you. [3:17:39, 3:17:41]: It's yes uh yes Miss Grant. [3:17:42, 3:17:46]: Yeah, yeah. I I'm um I have some concerns. [3:17:47, 3:17:51]: I speak for Councilwoman Gantt. I can't speak for Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [3:17:52, 3:17:58]: I can't speak for Councilman Blount. I can't speak for Councilman Barber. I can't speak for Councilman Thomas. I speak for me. [3:17:59, 3:18:00]: So [3:18:00, 3:18:01]: I have a concern. [3:18:02, 3:18:04]: In regards to us [3:18:04, 3:18:06]: Taking this all down. [3:18:07, 3:18:10]: Making sure it's right. We just ask questions like [3:18:10, 3:18:15]: Is streetlights already a part of the conditions? [3:18:16, 3:18:17]: Ви ніч, мек шо. [3:18:18, 3:18:19]: I mean we spent [3:18:20, 3:18:21]: Two hours on this topic. [3:18:22, 3:18:24]: Or more, we need to make sure. [3:18:25, 3:18:26]: For our citizens. [3:18:29, 3:18:49]: For the developers, for everyone, for our attorneys, that we have every single thing we need in place, the conditions. I could roll out these now, but I think it would be best served for our attorneys to be able to think, write it out, listen to our our counsel, speak to the developer and his and their attorneys. [3:18:49, 3:18:58]: attorney is battle and then comeback in two weeks. I just what's we waited this long, two weeks is not going to kill us. [3:18:59, 3:19:05]: We're telling him what we're saying is we're open for business. We want this to work. We heard from our community. [3:19:06, 3:19:11]: We're trying to find a medium and somewhere in between, but we want to get it right. [3:19:12, 3:19:18]: Because we want to make sure that the amenities that said they're going to be built, built, we want to make sure that everything is done. [3:19:19, 3:19:29]: based off the conditions that we are requesting. Yes, we rolled off some just then, but we want to make sure even with the 15% rental cap. [3:19:30, 3:19:37]: You know, we need to take a look at all of that and make sure that we're asking for the the right proper things. [3:19:38, 3:19:39]: For the conditions to be met. [3:19:39, 3:19:41]: I don't see why two weeks would [3:19:42, 3:19:53]: would hinder that. I really don't. Um, I think we would be doing the city of Stockbridge a disservice, a disjustice if we rushed off. Everything doesn't have to be I don't want to move slow. [3:19:54, 3:19:58]: But I we we're getting all this at once. It's a lot of information. [3:19:59, 3:20:05]: We asked a lot of questions. We made a lot of amendments. We did not have anybody from planning and zoning board here. [3:20:05, 3:20:11]: Um chair and I'm not all I'm saying is let's put those conditions in writing. [3:20:12, 3:20:18]: And come back and vote to approve everything. I'm not against it. I'm not against this project. [3:20:20, 3:20:25]: I mean saying I'm I'm trying I want us to move forward, but I want us to do it in a smart way. [3:20:25, 3:20:28]: I don't want us to vote on something and say, oh, oh, I forgot. [3:20:31, 3:20:41]: And Mayor Ford, if I may, I know that one of the things that Mr. Knight had talked about was that we had to consider a zoning appeal, possibly at the retreat that we're going to have. [3:20:42, 3:20:43]: And so [3:20:43, 3:20:51]: I don't know whether he thinks that or whether you all think that this would be fitting since we're going to be considering a zoning thing to do this at that retreat if you will like. [3:20:53, 3:20:58]: That's a thought too Mr. Knight. That's a thought. Mr. Knighton, uh did you have any comments on that since you brought brought it up? [3:21:00, 3:21:11]: Yeah, I think I mean, obviously, I mean the council has to consider whether you're not you want to approve this tonight or to table it to another meeting. I'd probably feel more comfortable if you table it to another regularly scheduled meeting. [3:21:12, 3:21:15]: i.e. a work session if you were inclined to do that. [3:21:16, 3:21:16]: Um [3:21:17, 3:21:20]: You know, but again, that's that's your call to make. [3:21:20, 3:21:21]: Um, I think [3:21:22, 3:21:24]: A retreat setting would not be [3:21:24, 3:21:30]: the best setting for this type of zoning item and it needs to go to a regularly scheduled meeting of council. [3:21:30, 3:21:30]: Right. [3:21:31, 3:21:34]: Yeah, standby. Miss Battle. Yes, I know you have Miss Battle. Go ahead, please. [3:21:35, 3:21:55]: Um council members, I've been doing zonings for 20 years. And what I can tell you from my experience is that um council member Alexander um has accurately reflected how it is done in many um municipalities and counties, which is we've [3:21:54, 3:22:14]: Bring the zoning conditions to the floor that the planning department has brought. Any additional conditions can be added from the floor, added into the minutes and added as additional conditions. And we are comfortable with what Mr. Washington read out today. [3:22:14, 3:22:15]: Okay. [3:22:15, 3:22:35]: That being said, um we are not opposed to the idea of waiting. Of course, we would prefer not to. I'll just say that. I know my client is probably saying, What you talking about, Michelle? But we would prefer we would prefer not to have to wait, but I also understand [3:22:35, 3:22:55]: understand the desire to make sure that we have accurately reflected the conditions um that are being requested um by um the board and so you know we will do and we will acquiesce in what you all choose to do um this evening um we have been working hard [3:22:55, 3:23:15]: hard and and vigorously to try and get support and to address the issues that have been raised. I can say that the one place where we cannot compromise is on going to an R2 standard at 30,000 square foot lots. That simply will kill the deal for us. The R2 [3:23:15, 3:23:35]: R2 and R three that was referenced by uh the councilwoman. Um, I think you need to look at the plat for Clark Meadows so that you are accurately reflecting because Clark Meadows has R2 and R3, yes, but the R2 are 50. [3:23:35, 3:23:55]: 15,000 square foot lots, and it's only 15 of those. And the balance of the 142 lots are under the R3 standard at um seven, theirs was 7,500 square foot lots. And I know you're not asking us to go to a 7,500 square foot lot. So um [3:23:55, 3:24:15]: We believe that we are very consistent with what's already there. And if you all need two weeks, then that's fine. But I would agree with Mr. Knighton. I don't believe that you can do that at a um retreat work session. It has to be a regular called meeting with [3:24:15, 3:24:35]: but um in order for it to be uh sustainable because it is a um you don't have to have the public hearing but you are making a decision um and i would think that that would have to be at a regularly scheduled meeting but i will defer to mr knighton and mr washington and mr berry um in regards to that yeah regularly scheduled meeting you can send me your email i'll send you a draft on this [3:24:35, 3:24:35]: Yeah. [3:24:36, 3:24:40]: A regularly scheduled meeting like our council work session on the thirtieth, would it be appropriate? [3:24:41, 3:24:50]: Also, we need to um we would need to advertise if we're gonna have a public hearing. There's a 15-day notice. Um Madam Clerk reminded me, of course. [3:24:50, 3:24:53]: Fifteen day notice to be provided for [3:24:53, 3:25:01]: um a public hearing item as well. And so you'd need to calculate that into um into any consideration. [3:25:03, 3:25:04]: Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [3:25:04, 3:25:09]: Thank you, Mayor. Um I concur with the uh in two weeks. [3:25:10, 3:25:15]: One of the things I'm I'm gonna always recognize is that we've hired staff. We have a city manager. [3:25:15, 3:25:19]: On here, we have our attorneys on here. We have a clerk that are taking minutes. [3:25:20, 3:25:24]: And everybody on this everybody in this meeting have heard the conditions and I've heard the [3:25:25, 3:25:27]: Uh uh what we want and what we need to do. [3:25:28, 3:25:31]: And I think in two weeks that'll be in paper in writing in front of us. [3:25:32, 3:25:37]: I would not let one single I would not make a decision from one single council member. [3:25:37, 3:25:45]: Dictating what we do. It's a collective effort that everyone on this on this call was elected by the citizens of Stockbridge. [3:25:45, 3:25:47]: And I think that everyone on this call [3:25:48, 3:25:49]: Has the right. [3:25:50, 3:25:51]: Has the right. [3:25:51, 3:25:57]: To allow those that we hire to do what they do. And so I'm willing to wait the two weeks. I I [3:25:58, 3:26:00]: Did a I'm s I'm hearing some [3:26:00, 3:26:09]: good stuff about this development. Uh and I just want it to be right and not be rushing to make a decision on this tonight. [3:26:12, 3:26:14]: Okay. Mayor Tim, go ahead, please. [3:26:14, 3:26:18]: Uh l let me let me collect something f correct something for the record, okay? [3:26:18, 3:26:21]: I'm not making anything up. [3:26:21, 3:26:25]: We've been listening to the community for the last [3:26:26, 3:26:29]: F four or five months long before [3:26:29, 3:26:32]: It got to us. This is not quick. [3:26:32, 3:26:37]: This has been out there a long time. They came back to the zoning uh advisory board. [3:26:38, 3:26:39]: Two or three times. [3:26:39, 3:26:42]: Cancelled meeting after cancelled meeting. [3:26:42, 3:26:45]: Who wants to do that? Nobody wants to do that. [3:26:45, 3:26:49]: We're telling people we're not want to be business friendly. This is not rushed. [3:26:50, 3:26:52]: They've been trying to get disapproved for months. [3:26:53, 3:26:54]: I mean months. [3:26:54, 3:27:00]: So why is it it's not rushed? The co the the community asked for larger homes. [3:27:00, 3:27:16]: 2500 square feet. That's what they they asked for larger homes. That is what folks were putting out there. They wanted larger homes. We're increasing the lot size by we we asked they asked for larger lots. We got that. [3:27:16, 3:27:26]: Right. They asked for larger homes. The minimum was 2,000. Now it's 2500. They got there. They wanted sidewalks. We got the sidewalks. Right. [3:27:27, 3:27:29]: We understand that there was a concern. [3:27:30, 3:27:32]: about parking in the street. [3:27:32, 3:27:43]: We need a clubhouse. Mayor, I listened to you just say what size clubhouse Monarch Village had. My community has a clubhouse that has about 40 people in it. [3:27:43, 3:27:53]: So this could di with the situation that we have, as they said, you can park three deep and then you can park two in the garage. So you got eight people parking. [3:27:53, 3:28:06]: in the street, the street being uh what it is, we ought to make sure that these people when they have a party or they have some type of function, that they don't try that don't they're not forced to have the party at their house. [3:28:07, 3:28:12]: parking in the street where thirty cars or twenty cars gotta park in the street. [3:28:12, 3:28:30]: This is practical sense because we don't have any enforcement on parking at this point. I didn't make these things up. I've been listening to the community. I've been listening to the developer. If you you if you've been paying attention for the past five months. [3:28:30, 3:28:50]: Where we started getting emails, where we started getting requests over and over and over again, all of these things that they said they wanted. I think the people that came on the call, that called us and emailed us and got involved, because what they did, what did they do? They helped us get a better developer. [3:28:50, 3:28:51]: [12531.8, 12534.9]: This is much better than the first plan that was put out there. [3:28:55, 3:29:01]: and the insinuation that i'm making stuff up that this the that that the community didn't want [3:29:01, 3:29:09]: All you need to do is go back through your city email. You will see every last one of these items were asked for by the community. [3:29:10, 3:29:12]: And as stated earlier. [3:29:12, 3:29:31]: Some we just need to watch the Henry County Commissioners or any other city operate. This is how they operate. They want it fresh, top of mind on the items that they want. On the items that they want, they list them. The staff takes the notes, write the information out, the attorney records it. [3:29:32, 3:29:33]: And the uh [3:29:33, 3:29:36]: developer is locked into what we have here. [3:29:36, 3:29:40]: So the insinuation that I'm making this up, no, I met with the public. [3:29:41, 3:29:45]: I've talked with the public on the phone. I've exchanged emails with the public. [3:29:45, 3:29:52]: I've talked to the builder, talked to him on the phone, had Zoom meeting with them, trying to put together something. [3:29:53, 3:29:57]: And all of this information was shared. I shared it with the council. [3:29:57, 3:30:08]: I didn't share it with Mr. Blount because I didn't think he would ever vote for it anyway, because he never votes for anything that we vote for. Okay. Uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [3:30:09, 3:30:10]: Thank you, Mayor. [3:30:11, 3:30:13]: A and you all know [3:30:13, 3:30:16]: From when we go into the gutter into the weeds like this. [3:30:17, 3:30:19]: Th this is where this council loses me. [3:30:20, 3:30:20]: Um [3:30:21, 3:30:23]: And and I I I really just don't like [3:30:24, 3:30:26]: what I'm hearing. I I I understand it. [3:30:27, 3:30:28]: But listen, listen. [3:30:30, 3:30:36]: I think there are a number of council members that will approve this project. [3:30:37, 3:30:41]: I think we have to learn to get away from our personal [3:30:41, 3:30:44]: feelings about [3:30:45, 3:30:51]: Who's saying what? Who's doing this? Who's doing that? And let's just state uh uh to the bin. [3:30:51, 3:30:56]: That's why I'm silent because I I do have opinions. I could say a lot. [3:30:57, 3:31:01]: But I'm grown enough to to just to hold my tongue. [3:31:01, 3:31:02]: Listen. [3:31:03, 3:31:04]: I think [3:31:05, 3:31:08]: That the things have been put on the table. [3:31:08, 3:31:12]: The amenity, the the the modification, the changes. [3:31:13, 3:31:15]: I I'm in agreement with those things. [3:31:16, 3:31:34]: So I don't have a problem in two weeks because even in two weeks, I do believe that the consensus of this council will approve or not approve that that's not an issue with me. I think I think the minds are made up, but it is important. [3:31:36, 3:31:39]: That this document includes [3:31:40, 3:31:42]: All of the modifications. [3:31:42, 3:31:46]: all of the modification because once we vote on a document [3:31:48, 3:31:55]: What's inside of that document? That's what you voted on. If you by some reason leave something out, then [3:31:56, 3:32:07]: Legally and technically, you can't come back and and put that in unless the developer agrees to do that. So I don't have a problem in waiting. [3:32:08, 3:32:12]: You know, I I'm just saying it you know, this kind of discussion has just really disturbed me. [3:32:12, 3:32:32]: I think we've had a great meeting. I appreciate the citizens that came in that spoke in favor and against. I think that as well. I think the council members, all of our comments have been on point tonight. But now here at the very end, you know, we started getting in the bushes. Now I will say this: it is clear. [3:32:32, 3:32:33]: Correct. [3:32:34, 3:32:37]: When anyone is making a motion [3:32:38, 3:32:39]: It is correct. [3:32:40, 3:32:51]: To include those kind of things that were being made into the motion, and it is nothing wrong with another council person saying, okay, include this in your motion. [3:32:51, 3:32:57]: So I'm just saying both sides here are right, but what I'm hearing is personal. [3:32:58, 3:33:09]: you know, issues with with each other and I get it's just no place for that. Um again, I don't have a problem in waiting two weeks because I think that the consensus of this council [3:33:09, 3:33:11]: is going to just make the decision. [3:33:12, 3:33:13]: It is important. [3:33:13, 3:33:15]: That for these citizens. [3:33:16, 3:33:19]: That all of the modifications and the changes [3:33:19, 3:33:22]: are included in this document. [3:33:22, 3:33:24]: And then and this is the document. [3:33:24, 3:33:26]: That we should vote on. [3:33:26, 3:33:27]: So [3:33:27, 3:33:32]: You know, I I don't have a problem in waiting. I just have a problem with this kind of [3:33:33, 3:33:36]: back and forth that we do when it's just really not necessary. So [3:33:37, 3:33:40]: I I just had to get my two point my two points in, but [3:33:43, 3:33:53]: Okay, I give it back, maybe. I just all right, thank you. And yeah, uh Mayor Pro Tem, you had a motion on the floor and it it never was seconded, so I don't know if you want to amend it a little bit or not. Uh but um [3:33:54, 3:33:55]: Uh we need to go forward. [3:33:56, 3:33:57]: Mayor I like to make a motion. [3:33:58, 3:34:12]: Well the motion is still on the floor. It hasn't been seconded though. It hasn't been seconded. So uh based on what um Ms. uh mayor uh what councilman Thomas said, uh we'll revisit it uh in two weeks. [3:34:13, 3:34:21]: Okay, so do okay. Let's let's um let's make sure we got this motion set and straight and see if there's a second. Ms. Holiday. [3:34:22, 3:34:28]: You had your hand. I was just wanna make sure that um Mayor Pro Tem Alexander, you are rescinding your motion and asking for a motion. [3:34:29, 3:34:29]: to table. [3:34:30, 3:34:34]: I'm asking for this to be continued in two weeks. [3:34:36, 3:34:40]: Repeat that sir. I'm asking for it to be continued into continued. Okay. [3:34:42, 3:34:53]: This discussion to be continued in two weeks, easy. Yeah, the the and just item clarification, if I may, Mayor. Go right ahead, sir. Matter of clarification, the way the calendar falls. [3:34:54, 3:35:00]: It'll be three weeks from now, just over three weeks from now on March thirtieth for the council work session. [3:35:01, 3:35:11]: It's a council work session then. All right now, uh, but it's not you said it's not a public hearing now, right? It's not so we don't have to advertise for a public hearing. [3:35:11, 3:35:12]: A yes up. [3:35:13, 3:35:15]: I just want to make sure us we got this right. [3:35:16, 3:35:19]: Mr. Washington or Ms. Berry. [3:35:21, 3:35:27]: My understanding is that and correct meat or wrong, my understanding is it would be negative it we it would need to be noticed as a public [3:35:27, 3:35:29]: Okay. You still have to be most of the public hearing. [3:35:30, 3:35:31]: Okay. [3:35:32, 3:35:33]: Okay, doesn't miss Bell. [3:35:35, 3:35:55]: Are there gonna be public comments at this? That's that's up to you all if you want to do it for two weeks or three weeks for decision only. Um you can do that to my knowledge, but I'll defer back to Randy um and and you, but uh under the zoning ordinance, you don't have to have another public hearing because you've just had the public hearing. [3:35:55, 3:36:00]: you're deferring your vote. So you can do that. Right, we're deferring that we can do that. Right. Right. [3:36:01, 3:36:20]: All right. So def my councilman Thomas, you had your hand up. I don't know if it just saw the what you asked. Okay. Um, so I don't think there's a need for an additional hearing. Okay. All right. I think it's I think we're just coming back just to get the language, the modifications. [3:36:20, 3:36:24]: uh to be included. Now that's just my interpretation. Okay. [3:36:25, 3:36:29]: All right. I think okay. So so the motion is to [3:36:30, 3:36:36]: come back at a work session uh to finalize everything and to vote on this issue. [3:36:36, 3:36:43]: Is that is that is that correct? Something along those lines? How does Oh but but the thing is if if if you're voting as a council, that's a public meeting. [3:36:45, 3:36:50]: We have to vote as a council, sir. Right. No, no, that's what I'm saying. So that's why I was talking about the public part of it. [3:36:50, 3:36:53]: It's a public meeting but not a public hearing. [3:36:53, 3:36:58]: Right. It will it will be included on the March 30th agenda. Okay. [3:36:59, 3:36:59]: All right. [3:36:59, 3:37:07]: Excuse me, does this mean that uh we have to uh signs uh on the property have to put a new date on the signs? [3:37:08, 3:37:08]: No. [3:37:09, 3:37:17]: Linda, we'll we'll discuss that with our attorneys. I think we'll be fine in that regard because the public hearing, if the council desired, the public hearing was held tonight. [3:37:18, 3:37:20]: Right. So then the decision [3:37:20, 3:37:23]: is being deferred until March thirtieth. [3:37:24, 3:37:24]: Mm-hmm. [3:37:25, 3:37:25]: That's [3:37:26, 3:37:28]: I think that's correct. [3:37:28, 3:37:28]: Okay. [3:37:31, 3:37:34]: All right. So just get a proper motion in a second and vote on this. [3:37:35, 3:37:39]: So I need a proper motion to make sure we all understand we're on the same sheet of music. [3:37:39, 3:37:46]: Yeah, we wanna uh the motion is we want to revisit this item as a decision only uh at our work session. [3:37:47, 3:37:50]: Which is the thirtieth of of of uh I second that. [3:37:51, 3:37:57]: Um I think we'll stand by. Miss Barber, did you have your hand up for a second to that? Or did you just have your hand up for a comment? [3:37:58, 3:37:58]: Which one was it? [3:38:00, 3:38:07]: Seconding the motion. Okay, I'm sorry, Ms. Gannon. I saw her hand first. Okay. That's my okay, good. There pro ten-minute motion seconded by Councilman Barber. [3:38:08, 3:38:09]: Hold on. [3:38:09, 3:38:10]: Yes, sir. [3:38:10, 3:38:16]: In discussion phase, we we probably need to include with the completed document of all the adjustments. [3:38:16, 3:38:19]: to uh to bring with your document. [3:38:20, 3:38:23]: Uh, with all the adjustments to what we uh just discussed. [3:38:24, 3:38:28]: Not just and vote, but with the documents to whatever we just [3:38:28, 3:38:37]: I think that the the intent would be to bring all of those conditions that were discussed tonight and provide that to the council well ahead of the meeting. [3:38:38, 3:38:43]: So that you will have those parameters as you enter into that uh meeting on the thirtieth. [3:38:46, 3:38:49]: Thank you. All right. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:38:51, 3:38:54]: Okay, so NAMS decision. Fantastic. All right. [3:38:55, 3:39:15]: And citizens, if there are any citizens that are out there in reference to the public hearing, uh you're more than welcome to stay since you're online. You don't have to. And if you heard the uh heard the message that we will uh make a final decision on this on the thirtieth of uh March at a uh council work session, uh which you can uh easily [3:39:15, 3:39:35]: Listen in on. It's a public meeting. On that note, we'll move on to the new business, and that is council consideration to approve the Main Street Program Mural Project presented by Ms. Braggs, the Main Street Program Manager. And it has here Ms. Potts, the Main Street Advisory Board Chair, and Ms. [3:39:35, 3:39:40]: Mr. Christian, Christian, I guess mural artist or mural artist. [3:39:41, 3:39:42]: Here, it's on you. [3:39:43, 3:39:54]: Hello. Um good afternoon, or I guess good evening now. Um I'm glad to be here with um our Main Street Advisory Board Chair, Miss Anika Potts. [3:39:54, 3:39:57]: And um I'm hoping that we were [3:39:58, 3:40:08]: able to hang on to our artist John. Yes, he's here, John Christian as well, the mural artist that we will be working with on this particular project. Ms. Potts, if you will. [3:40:10, 3:40:11]: Alrighty. [3:40:12, 3:40:24]: Uh good evening, Mayor Ford, uh City Council members, and fellow Stockbridge citizens and guests. Um I'm Anika Potts. I'm the chairperson for the Stockbridge Main Street Advisory Board. [3:40:24, 3:40:32]: Uh, the Main Street program's mission is to design and support an identifiable downtown historic district. [3:40:33, 3:40:35]: That promotes economic vitality. [3:40:35, 3:40:37]: That cultivates artistic expression. [3:40:38, 3:40:42]: encourages cultural enrichment and nurtures community spirit. [3:40:43, 3:41:02]: During the Main Street Program Advisory Board's 2019 strategic planning session, members decided that initiating a downtown public arts agenda would be a major step towards realizing our vision for a vibrant downtown. [3:41:03, 3:41:14]: With the new Stockbridge Ampu Theater and the proposed Cultural Arts Center, we believe Main Street is definitely in alignment with the city's goals here. [3:41:15, 3:41:22]: The proposed mirror project that we are here to discuss tonight will be one. [3:41:23, 3:41:30]: Of our first steps towards making Stockbridge outstanding with the downtown district. [3:41:31, 3:41:35]: And it'll happen because this project will have great character. [3:41:36, 3:41:38]: Um it will exude vibrancy. [3:41:38, 3:41:40]: And it will embrace the arts. [3:41:41, 3:41:58]: So it's my pleasure to have Ms. Kira Harris Braggs, our Main Street program manager, come forward to talk to you about the mural and introduce the very talented mural artists that we have in place to work with us. Ms. Braggs, thank you. [3:42:00, 3:42:11]: Good afternoon. Good evening again. If I could please share my screen, I do have a little bit of a presentation that I would like to be able to provide to you all. [3:42:20, 3:42:22]: Um, do I have sharing privileges yet? [3:42:36, 3:42:38]: Okay, are you all able to see my screen? [3:42:40, 3:42:41]: Yes. [3:42:41, 3:42:42]: Okay. [3:42:43, 3:43:03]: All right. As um Ms. Potts stated, the Main Street Advisory Board did meet and host its strategic planning meeting. And at that annual strategic planning meeting, amongst many of our plans and priorities that we set, we did think about the initiation of a [3:43:03, 3:43:04]: Public arts program. [3:43:05, 3:43:09]: And um the first step with regard to that public arts program. [3:43:09, 3:43:11]: was to [3:43:12, 3:43:14]: Involve a mural program. [3:43:15, 3:43:27]: Um this was taken straight out of our RSVP downtown strategic plan. And we took this into consideration because it was a recommendation. [3:43:27, 3:43:31]: of that particular strategic planning process. [3:43:33, 3:43:53]: I'd like to take the time to introduce mural artist John Christian, who is the artist that we will be working with to realize our first steps toward this vision. You should have received his bio and several samples of his work already. But just to give you a few bullet points, [3:43:53, 3:44:13]: John is an avid supporter of the arts. He believes that we all can create, but sometimes you need a little help to push it in the right direction. And his goal is to create great art that will last for generations. As a muralist, John is creating and installing murals and [3:44:12, 3:44:32]: Small towns and cities across the southeast, mostly in Georgia, and then also Alabama. He's affiliated with his studio, of course, John W. Christian Studio Studios in Mural and Fine Arts in Hapeville, Georgia, as well as the Georgia Mural Trail and the American. [3:44:32, 3:44:35]: American mural trail dot com [3:44:35, 3:44:47]: He is also on the Georgia Council for the Arts Mural Artist listing. And so I would like to just introduce Mr. John Christian and give you all an opportunity. [3:44:47, 3:45:07]: um to see him and then also he will be available at the end of our presentation um for any questions um that you might have. So let me stop sharing my screen and just let John um say hello to you all and um just give you a few words about the Georgia mural project. [3:45:09, 3:45:10]: How's everybody doing? [3:45:11, 3:45:16]: Um basically uh the Georgia Mural trailer kind of started off as a um [3:45:16, 3:45:36]: uh concept for, you know, like when you think in terms of murals, you think in terms of big cities, uh Atlanta and so forth. But if you think about all the dollars spent on the arts, for the most part, 90% of it's spent on the big cities. And the smaller communities don't get do not get as near there the recognition of the [3:45:36, 3:45:41]: So I I came up with the concept of creating uh [3:45:41, 3:45:44]: Fifty murals and fifty cities in five years. [3:45:44, 3:46:04]: So right now I'm at uh 43 murals and uh but uh taken me seven years to do that many. So it's taken a little bit longer. But I've also realized too is um it's a great way to market your community. And what you do is like explore georgia.org, which is the main is kind of like one of the uh main advertising tools. [3:46:04, 3:46:06]: For the stake economic development. [3:46:06, 3:46:14]: They advertise all our murals. There's also the uh the the Georgia um mural tr excuse me, the Georgia Public Art Finder. [3:46:15, 3:46:27]: You click on it, you'll see tons of art projects uh uh uh listed where they are and you guys can let's say if there's one in Stockbridge, it'll basically you click on uh the city of Stockbridge and it'll show what artwork you have. [3:46:27, 3:46:29]: So it's another way to um [3:46:29, 3:46:35]: get the word out about your community and also sh things that you're proud of. [3:46:35, 3:46:54]: Typically with uh the murals that I do is it pretty much a showcase murals of a little bit of the history, economic development for the future, and some community heritage and what what makes your community great. And so that's the kind of things that we try and do and focus on with the projects that we do. [3:46:55, 3:47:01]: Uh I've been uh like I said, I've been doing all kinds of different art projects over the years. So it's not all murals. [3:47:01, 3:47:04]: But uh if anyone's got any questions, I'd be happy to answer. [3:47:06, 3:47:09]: Yeah, um Cataman Blount, go ahead, please. [3:47:12, 3:47:21]: Yeah, I'm uh I'm excited about artwork. You uh you're working over Hateville, uh friend of mine and my well my daughters, uh Chloe Alexander, I'm pretty sure you're familiar with her. [3:47:21, 3:47:23]: Is she a city council member? [3:47:23, 3:47:31]: Yes, and she does a lot of a art and stuff over there and in Hateville and uh and I think it's uh I think it's pretty exciting. [3:47:31, 3:47:33]: You know, to see what uh we can do. [3:47:33, 3:47:38]: Uh to enhance areas around Stockbridge Woodard. So I'm glad to have you on board. [3:47:38, 3:47:39]: Thank you. [3:47:40, 3:47:53]: Well, if you all will allow me to share my screen again, I have a little bit more of a presentation and um we'll div um show you what we're trying to develop and then um we'll also open it again for even more questions. [3:47:54, 3:47:56]: So let me see if I can share this. [3:47:57, 3:48:00]: Okay, are you all able to see my screen? [3:48:00, 3:48:00]: Yes. [3:48:01, 3:48:02]: Okay. [3:48:02, 3:48:08]: Um with regard to this particular project, let's see if I can get it on the slide presentation. [3:48:11, 3:48:31]: Okay. With regard to this project, the proposed mur mural site is the corner of Horrell Street and North Henry Boulevard. This would be located by Stockbridge Elementary School and directly across from City Hall. This particular wall you are able to see. [3:48:31, 3:48:40]: From three different vantage points, and it would be right at the busiest intersection in our downtown area. [3:48:40, 3:49:00]: We are planning to increase the height of this particular site by painting, having the murals painted on panels. So Mr. Christian would be able to affix panels to this particular wall, and then we would continue that mural. [3:49:00, 3:49:07]: um around the corner and through the backside of that wall that isn't quite pictured on this particular picture. [3:49:08, 3:49:15]: But um as time goes on, the mural can actually grow with the community. So we're really excited about that aspect of it. [3:49:18, 3:49:20]: Um some other um [3:49:21, 3:49:41]: Ways that we are looking at increasing murals in the downtown area and expanding this particular public art project is looking at other sites that are possible for downtown as recommended in the RSVP plan. We would love to have a mural in the Breezeway area that's going to create the [3:49:41, 3:50:01]: the connectivity between Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail and Burke Street. We would love to have the space that is available on the side of what is now known as the Ted Strickland Community Center. We have some wall space there that would we would like to enhance that breeze. [3:50:01, 3:50:03]: Sway project that'll be coming online. [3:50:03, 3:50:19]: Also, um there are some prospects on buildings that are in our downtown where we have some sidewalls that are available. We've talked with Fletchers and Sons Automotive, and they are amenable to this project and their site being a possible site. [3:50:19, 3:50:36]: In addition, we are looking at the Oglesby building, which is right there on John Clark Drive. And then also as was depicted in the RSVP, we're even thinking about being innovative and thinking outside of the box and placing a mural. [3:50:36, 3:50:42]: In the intersection of um Love Street and Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [3:50:42, 3:50:56]: Um, however, that would probably be our last mural that we put in place because um we know that there is going to be some work done with regard to that railroad crossing and the connectivity between the amphitheater. [3:50:56, 3:50:58]: And the um [3:50:58, 3:51:05]: Cultural Arts Center. So we'll probably leave that space to be the last one that we tackle in our um [3:51:05, 3:51:07]: Project timeline. [3:51:08, 3:51:20]: Um, just a few notes on the mural timeline in case you're wondering how long this project will take. Um, we're looking at um March 30th for the design process to be completed. [3:51:21, 3:51:29]: And then um April 2nd, the meet around that time, the um mural will start to be painted on the panels. [3:51:29, 3:51:31]: In Mr. Christian's studio. [3:51:31, 3:51:40]: And then by June 30th, we would like to have the mural completed and have an unveiling of that particular site. [3:51:42, 3:52:02]: Um, the mural cost is a total of$11,500. Um, we have received a grant from the Georgia Council on the Arts for a 50-50 match. So they will be paying half of that cost for us through the grant, and we would be responsible for. [3:52:02, 3:52:04]: For the remainder of the cost. [3:52:06, 3:52:19]: The Georgia Council of the Arts, again, I mentioned before in Mr. Christian's bio, he is on their, he is listed as one of their mural artists or on their Georgia Council for the Arts artist listing. [3:52:21, 3:52:33]: Um, as far as the um process is concerned with regard to design, the Main Street program has um through its advisory board created a design, mural design committee. [3:52:33, 3:52:51]: And we are looking at different concepts from across the country to get inspiration for what we would like to do here in Stockbridge. We want something that is going to be engaging, something that is going to um evoke attention. [3:52:51, 3:52:56]: and interest and also be very colorful and [3:52:56, 3:53:00]: Um, something that our community can be very proud of. [3:53:00, 3:53:07]: So we're trying to think outside of the box with regard to what we're going to place in that busy intersection. [3:53:07, 3:53:21]: And that's all I have with regard to the presentation. I would like to open it now for any questions you may have. And ultimately, we are coming to you to get the permission to place the mural at the Herel Street site. [3:53:22, 3:53:24]: Are there any questions at this time? [3:53:25, 3:53:44]: Well let me let me ask say this. Uh uh the uh initial the grant g uh gives us one half of the eleven thousand five hundred, which is roughly five thousand seven hundred and fifty dollars. And of course the other half is by the city. Uh so um and so that uh and maybe I missed it. Where's when is that money initially due? When is it actually due? [3:53:45, 3:53:55]: Um we um have a um schedule basically we would want to um start with um the payment schedule by March the fifteenth. [3:53:55, 3:53:58]: Um, we have already paid a deposit um for [3:53:58, 3:54:05]: Um commissioning the artist design, and that was$1,500 of the total cost. [3:54:05, 3:54:11]: And then at March by March fifteenth or around that time we would like to make a second payment. [3:54:11, 3:54:18]: And then um nothing would the final payment would be due once the mural has been completed and that [3:54:18, 3:54:23]: is um an estimated date of June the thirtieth, the end of June. [3:54:23, 3:54:37]: Okay, so on fifteenth March, yeah it's for the city, it's five thousand seven hundred and twenty dollars, fifty dollars less than fifteen hundred. Is that what we're talking about? Um no we would be looking at I think three thousand three hundred dollars at that point. [3:54:39, 3:54:40]: All right. [3:54:40, 3:54:55]: All right. Good deal. Got it now. Thank you. And then we are reimbursed for the um fit. We pay the total price of the mural and then the Georgia Council on the Arts would reimburse us. Okay. There we go. Thank you. Appreciate it. Council, any other questions? [3:54:57, 3:54:57]: At all. [3:54:58, 3:55:00]: Um Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please, sir. [3:55:01, 3:55:05]: If there are no questions, I like to move. [3:55:05, 3:55:10]: That we accept the Main Street Muir Project. [3:55:11, 3:55:12]: Second. [3:55:12, 3:55:18]: Okay, there we go. Motion be made in a second. Any further discussion? I got a quick question. Well right here, sir. [3:55:18, 3:55:24]: Here, I don't want to jump the gun. Uh is that s uh and I may have to talk since you're gonna have to unveil it. [3:55:25, 3:55:29]: Is there gonna be a certain theme that we're looking for or is that something you kinda [3:55:31, 3:55:51]: Well, we're going with the um we're going to use the um city's tagline where community connects, and that will be the theme of the piece. So we are looking at different designs that will um embody those words. So the committee has um met twice, and we'll have another meeting scheduled um for this. [3:55:51, 3:56:01]: week and we'll be coming together around that concept and we will be um bringing a design concept to you all for final approval. All right thank you. [3:56:02, 3:56:02]: Mm-hmm. [3:56:03, 3:56:08]: Okay, motion's been made, been seconded. There's no further discussion. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:56:09, 3:56:17]: And it is unanimous. Okay, fantastic. Thank you very much. Thank you, Kira. Okay, thank you very much. And good night, everyone. Bye. [3:56:18, 3:56:19]: Council Cassidy. [3:56:21, 3:56:30]: Council consideration to approve Georgia Power Lightning Lighting Agreement for the Amphitheater Project, Funding Source General Fund and Fund Balance. Mr. Knight, please. [3:56:31, 3:56:37]: Yes, Mayor and Council. This item is related to uh the Georgia Power potential installation. [3:56:38, 3:56:56]: of uh lighting poles, lamps, decorative poles, and aluminum poles in the amphitheater project. There'll be 34 uh decorative poles and then another 19 uh aluminum poles and LED area fixtures throughout the amphitheater campus. [3:56:57, 3:56:59]: Georgia Power will install. [3:56:59, 3:57:02]: Um all of these uh poles. [3:57:04, 3:57:06]: It's a month to month agreement that's renewed. [3:57:06, 3:57:13]: Um or it's a month to month agreement that's automatically renewed month to month. They take care of all of the materials, the labor, energy. [3:57:14, 3:57:22]: and maintenance cost to operate the system uh throughout the amphitheater campus. And so it's kind of a standard agreement. They did give a few options. [3:57:23, 3:57:26]: But I would recommend that um we um [3:57:27, 3:57:29]: Pay the lease amount or the operating amount. [3:57:29, 3:57:33]: Of five thousand one hundred and twenty nine dollars and eighty seven cents. [3:57:34, 3:57:36]: А пермонт форди. [3:57:37, 3:57:41]: of the uh lighting throughout the uh amphitheater campus. [3:57:41, 3:57:46]: Um and typically as we have a street lighted program. [3:57:46, 3:57:48]: On all of our city streets. [3:57:48, 3:57:55]: Um and this would be somewhat similar to that. Uh street lights upon the the roadway that'll run uh through the amphitheater. [3:57:56, 3:57:59]: Also in the parking areas and throughout the amphitheater campus. [3:58:00, 3:58:01]: Um uh [3:58:02, 3:58:13]: Georgia Power is been a good partner for us. They're looking to go ahead and do this. Uh, we need your approval to move this project forward. It's part of obviously the overall amphitheater scheme. [3:58:14, 3:58:18]: And um this would be included in our overall inventory. [3:58:19, 3:58:26]: of streetlights throughout the um uh the city. I think our overall street light budget is about four hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars throughout the entire [3:58:27, 3:58:33]: Um, city, this would be a five thousand per month or roughly a little over sixty thousand dollars per year. [3:58:34, 3:58:39]: to provide for the uh decorative poles and LED lighting throughout the amphitheater campus. [3:58:39, 3:58:41]: request your approval. [3:58:42, 3:58:42]: Thank you, sir. [3:58:43, 3:58:45]: Any questions for Mr. Knighton? [3:58:46, 3:58:46]: Mm-hmm. [3:58:47, 3:58:49]: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. [3:58:49, 3:58:53]: Mm Mr. Knighton, uh, would would these include the lights that we talked about? [3:58:54, 3:58:55]: Uh [3:58:55, 3:58:58]: The same type of lights that are gonna be installed throughout the neighborhood. [3:58:59, 3:59:02]: That we talked about the beautification going up uh Lee Street and [3:59:03, 3:59:08]: These would be similar. These likely would be very similar to that. The the law if you [3:59:08, 3:59:17]: The large decorative poles, the black poles with the block black posts and the large decorative um lights. You there's an example of it, uh should be in your package of what that light. [3:59:18, 3:59:21]: would look like. Um and uh [3:59:21, 3:59:22]: I think it's [3:59:23, 3:59:29]: It's consistent with what you would find in a more refined area in terms of uh the lighting poles. [3:59:29, 3:59:34]: and uh the lighting post tops. So that would be uh generally similar to that. [3:59:35, 3:59:42]: You spoke about the four hundred twenty five thousand dollars. Now, this sixty thousand dollars a year, that's in addition to that. [3:59:43, 3:59:44]: That would be correct, yes. [3:59:45, 3:59:48]: Is that through the for the duration or just to completion? [3:59:49, 3:59:53]: That could be good. That would that would be ongoing. That would be ongoing every year. [3:59:53, 3:59:57]: Oh sixty thousand dollars would be added to our budget for lighting. [3:59:57, 4:00:01]: Uh that's properly yes. We've got a certain amount budgeted [4:00:02, 4:00:09]: Um that four hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars that is generally close to about what we spend. I think we may have been a little bit less last year. [4:00:09, 4:00:13]: But that would be included on an annual basis, yes. [4:00:13, 4:00:24]: So we we're looking at an increase of uh it's gonna be like four hundred and seventy five thousand roughly versus the four twenty five that's been previously pre approved with the system. That's about right, yes. Mm-hmm. [4:00:25, 4:00:26]: Okay. [4:00:28, 4:00:30]: Councillor, any other questions for Mr. Knighton? [4:00:31, 4:00:33]: Yes, ma Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [4:00:34, 4:00:40]: Mr. Knighton. Um I remember around February or March time frame. [4:00:41, 4:00:47]: There was a SCAF recommendation that came before us um for a million dollars. [4:00:48, 4:00:49]: For Georgia Power Lighting. [4:00:50, 4:00:55]: What was that for? Was it just the installation of power poles? [4:00:55, 4:01:00]: Um, for the amphitheater because this million dollars was for the amphitheater. [4:01:00, 4:01:03]: I'm just trying to figure out what is the difference between [4:01:03, 4:01:06]: what we paid for then and what you're asking for now. [4:01:10, 4:01:20]: I seem to recall, I'm trying to remember exactly what that was if Deshis is on here might be able to help me. I'm trying to remember exactly what that would would have been for. [4:01:26, 4:01:27]: That was [4:01:28, 4:01:32]: Mr. A R I I I can't recall right offhand what that would have been for. [4:01:37, 4:01:38]: Mr. Aaron? [4:01:40, 4:01:40]: It's your [4:01:41, 4:01:51]: Well there you go. Yes. I'm I'm thinking that it might have had to do with those transformers they installed. Okay. I think those two transformers that were installed. [4:01:52, 4:01:54]: But it wasn't a million dollars, was it wasn't [4:01:56, 4:01:57]: It wasn't um [4:01:57, 4:02:02]: I don't recall it being that much. That I mean not that much is a million dollars. [4:02:02, 4:02:04]: I thought it was closer to [4:02:05, 4:02:12]: Little over a hundred thousand dollars. I'm trying to do this from memory on the track I'll have to go back and look at my notes, but I can submit that information tomorrow. [4:02:16, 4:02:23]: Councilwoman, I think you're right. I do recall that we did um provide uh an item, but I don't think it was nearly um [4:02:23, 4:02:25]: That large of amount. [4:02:27, 4:02:34]: My memory serves me frankly. I abstained from that vote. Um I was relatively new on the council on a million. Thank you. [4:02:34, 4:02:40]: Right. I think you're right. It was during that time frame, like twenty nineteen, going into twenty twenty, if I recall. [4:02:40, 4:02:41]: Uh it was in twenty twenty. [4:02:41, 4:02:42]: Twenty twenty. Okay. [4:02:43, 4:02:43]: Mm-hmm. [4:02:43, 4:02:54]: Um that worked in the rock time frame. But I wanted to know what I'm doing, maybe so you can ask for now. [4:02:56, 4:02:58]: Okay, any other questions for Mr. Knighton? [4:03:00, 4:03:08]: I would imagine Miss Knight, you'll you'll uh between you and Mr. Aaron, you'll figure this thing out and g let us know what the what this issue is and s and solve this particular mystery, I guess you may say. [4:03:09, 4:03:17]: Absolutely. All right. Thank you. All right. No other questions. Uh, Council, I need a motion to accept uh this uh proposal from Georgia Power. [4:03:20, 4:03:21]: I need a motion. [4:03:23, 4:03:24]: So move. [4:03:24, 4:03:25]: Is there a second? [4:03:27, 4:03:28]: And his second [4:03:29, 4:03:30]: I said [4:03:31, 4:03:37]: Okay, Ms. Gantt I believe that's you second that okay. Uh no further discussion. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:03:39, 4:03:41]: Okay. All polls? [4:03:43, 4:03:43]: Abstain. [4:03:44, 4:03:47]: I abstain. Okay, so four zero one. [4:03:47, 4:03:55]: All right, thank you. Uh what's next? Council consideration to approve uh bond interest interest rates, fees, and distribution. [4:03:56, 4:03:59]: Presented by Mr. Knighton, Ed Wall, Doug Selby. [4:03:59, 4:04:00]: And Mr. Washington. [4:04:02, 4:04:02]: Gentlemen. [4:04:03, 4:04:03]: Please have at it. [4:04:04, 4:04:11]: Yes, Mayor and Council. Um this was an item related to um the bond financing that was approved uh several weeks ago. [4:04:12, 4:04:16]: It was one of the items, a uh series C bomb. [4:04:16, 4:04:23]: Um, that slightly changed in terms of the interest rate, just the series C bond. So we needed to, as a matter of [4:04:23, 4:04:30]: information transparency. Wanted to make sure we brought that item back to you for your review and approval. [4:04:30, 4:04:32]: Mr. Wall is here to discuss that item. [4:04:33, 4:04:33]: as well. [4:04:35, 4:04:40]: Thank you, um, Mr. Knighton. Um, can everybody hear me, Mayor? Can you hear me? Hear you, sir. Go right in, please. [4:04:41, 4:04:46]: So uh y'all know we approved three series of bonds, the first series, the A series. [4:04:46, 4:04:52]: Um was uh seven million for the amphitheater and two point eight million for cultural arts. [4:04:52, 4:04:55]: It was nine million nine hundred and ten thousand. [4:04:55, 4:04:58]: I had hoped the interest rate would be one point three two percent. [4:04:59, 4:05:00]: And um [4:05:01, 4:05:06]: We were able to get truest bank, Suntrust Bank to agree to it. It wanted one point three six [4:05:06, 4:05:08]: Rates have uh trended up. [4:05:08, 4:05:11]: Since uh February the first, pretty dramatically. [4:05:12, 4:05:21]: But they agreed to the one point three two percent for the series A that I told y'all about three weeks ago. So that's good to go. Series B was one million and ten thousand. [4:05:22, 4:05:24]: It was a a one million and thirty thousand. [4:05:25, 4:05:28]: It was for uh a portion of the trail network. [4:05:28, 4:05:31]: Again, A and B were a four year bond. [4:05:31, 4:05:34]: They were gonna be paid for with the swast. [4:05:35, 4:05:36]: And um [4:05:36, 4:05:43]: The interest rate for it was one point oh four percent tax exempt. That's what we I told you three weeks ago. [4:05:43, 4:05:47]: We were able to get Sun Trust to agree to that one point oh four percent. [4:05:48, 4:05:49]: Series C [4:05:49, 4:05:50]: Was um [4:05:51, 4:05:51]: Um [4:05:52, 4:05:59]: Eleven million in change for the remainder of the cultural arts center and three million for public safety equipment. [4:05:59, 4:06:01]: It was a fifteen year bond issue. [4:06:02, 4:06:03]: It was secured by the general fund. [4:06:04, 4:06:07]: I quoted you two point two five percent. [4:06:08, 4:06:09]: Three weeks ago. [4:06:10, 4:06:13]: Suntrust came back with two point three five percent. [4:06:14, 4:06:19]: But I asked'em for an option that I could repay it without any prepayment penalty. [4:06:19, 4:06:22]: After five years, um [4:06:22, 4:06:30]: That when we voted a new splost, if you decide to choose to add projects to the newsplot to pay these bonds off early. [4:06:30, 4:06:32]: We could do it with no prepayment penalty. [4:06:32, 4:06:34]: And the rate for that option. [4:06:34, 4:06:36]: is two point five three percent. [4:06:36, 4:06:39]: And that's the option that I want to recommend to all. [4:06:39, 4:06:44]: was a two point five three percent. So that's different than what I told you three weeks ago. [4:06:46, 4:06:46]: Okay. [4:06:47, 4:06:52]: Any questions from Mr. Ed Wall? Um Mr. Blount, your hand was up first. Go ahead. [4:06:53, 4:06:57]: Mr. Walls, uh on the uh fourteen million that's gonna be bonded. [4:06:59, 4:07:00]: Um [4:07:01, 4:07:07]: You saying that's the one that you're looking at at two point five three, but you're trying to do a five year option on. Is that the one you're saying? [4:07:07, 4:07:08]: Yes, sir. [4:07:08, 4:07:09]: Yes, sir. [4:07:09, 4:07:13]: Uh within those five years, if that if that stands [4:07:14, 4:07:26]: What would be the payment, annual payment on that from uh general funds and then what would be the annual uh estimated annual payment after that? I I don't know if you can do the after, but I know you can do the five years before. [4:07:26, 4:07:27]: Yes, sir. So um [4:07:28, 4:07:32]: It's a fifteen year fixed rate at two point five three. [4:07:33, 4:07:38]: You just have the option after five years to prepay it early with no prepayment penalty? [4:07:38, 4:07:42]: And if I could, um, if the moderator will let me share my screen. [4:07:43, 4:07:50]: You did, so I'm good to go. If you'll hang on just a minute, Councilman Blount, I'll show you what the payments are on that bond issue. [4:08:09, 4:08:10]: [14904.3, 14905.1]: Can you see that? [4:08:25, 4:08:26]: Screen kills my butt. [4:08:27, 4:08:28]: Yes, sir. [4:08:29, 4:08:32]: So the payments that you have here for the um [4:08:32, 4:08:33]: The option that we have. [4:08:34, 4:08:35]: Is um [4:08:35, 4:08:37]: Fourteen million eight hundred sixty five thousand. [4:08:38, 4:08:40]: You see the payments coming from the um [4:08:41, 4:08:41]: Um [4:08:42, 4:08:43]: General Fund. [4:08:44, 4:08:45]: Um [4:08:45, 4:08:49]: The f we've capitalized interest in this bond issue, so the first payment that you'll make. [4:08:50, 4:08:53]: is august first of twenty twenty two. [4:08:54, 4:09:00]: And um it'll be about half of this three hundred and seventy six thousand dollars you see. [4:09:00, 4:09:03]: So your twenty two budget will in will [4:09:03, 4:09:04]: require you to put [4:09:05, 4:09:09]: About a hundred and eighty thousand dollars is a payment for that year. [4:09:10, 4:09:14]: Then the remaining in twenty-three would be a million five from the general fund. [4:09:15, 4:09:18]: And then you see it drops to nine hundred and ninety-one thousand and twenty-nine. [4:09:19, 4:09:28]: The reason that it's bigger in those years is we're we're doing we're doing an an a nine year term for the public safety equipment for three million. [4:09:28, 4:09:31]: But a fifteen year term on cultural arts. [4:09:31, 4:09:36]: 'cause the useful life of the public safety equipment won't won't all be fifteen years. [4:09:37, 4:09:49]: So the the interest payment for the remainder of this year would be the is that the 139,987? Yes, sir, but it's capitalizing the bond issue in this fourteen million eight hundred and sixty-five thousand dollars. [4:09:50, 4:09:52]: I've included enough money in here. [4:09:53, 4:09:55]: Pay all of this and half of that. [4:09:57, 4:10:02]: So the first payment is that it actually gotta come out of the general fund is half of this three hundred and seventy six thousand dollar number. [4:10:05, 4:10:08]: So we're one, two, three, four, five, six. [4:10:09, 4:10:12]: Okay, so we're looking at a about six years. [4:10:13, 4:10:19]: Of a million, uh million and a little over a million and a half each year. Is that correct? [4:10:19, 4:10:20]: Yes, sir. [4:10:21, 4:10:24]: And that's out of fu uh that's gonna be out of the general fund. [4:10:25, 4:10:25]: Yes, sir. [4:10:26, 4:10:27]: A million and a half. [4:10:28, 4:10:29]: Yes, sir. [4:10:30, 4:10:31]: Um [4:10:34, 4:10:34]: Okay. [4:10:37, 4:10:42]: When when you was doing the calculations and on this [4:10:42, 4:10:44]: One of the things that you did recommend. [4:10:45, 4:10:52]: Is that we wait and we didn't we and we had we moved forward with with this. Now we're talking about a million and a half. [4:10:53, 4:10:56]: Uh one point five million dollars plus hit. [4:10:56, 4:11:02]: put it for the next six years on there and then can uh continual after that is about a million, close to a million dollar hit. [4:11:02, 4:11:03]: After that. [4:11:03, 4:11:06]: Um, if we do some type of finagling. [4:11:07, 4:11:17]: Um, I just wanted to reaffirm with you because like I've said before, um, I guess I was one of the council members that didn't vote for it. So what you're sell telling us, and one of the things that you said. [4:11:18, 4:11:22]: But looking at our finances and how we are operating now as our uh uh [4:11:23, 4:11:24]: Financial advisor. [4:11:25, 4:11:29]: How are we supposed to pay this without decreasing our fund balance? [4:11:29, 4:11:30]: Uh every year. [4:11:32, 4:11:34]: You'll have to cut expenses or levy a property tax. [4:11:36, 4:11:36]: Okay. [4:11:40, 4:11:41]: Okay, thank you, sir. [4:11:43, 4:11:49]: Mayor Pro Tem, go ahead, please. Yeah, thank you so much, Mayor. Uh listen, okay, either you're gonna lead or you're gonna get out of the way. [4:11:49, 4:11:50]: Okay. [4:11:50, 4:11:55]: See already delay has already caused the interest rates to go up. [4:11:56, 4:11:56]: So [4:11:57, 4:12:00]: The reason you don't wait is because the interest rates have gone up. [4:12:02, 4:12:04]: When the stimulus money hits the economy. [4:12:05, 4:12:06]: They're gonna continue to go up. [4:12:07, 4:12:16]: It's reckless to continue to talk about waiting. This delay has already cost us money by waiting, by taking so long to get to the bond issue. [4:12:19, 4:12:24]: I wonder about that sometimes because it takes us a long time to get around to things. [4:12:25, 4:12:27]: And in twenty twenty one. [4:12:27, 4:12:28]: Right. [4:12:28, 4:12:35]: Every time we delay and that interest rate tick up a little bit, that's hundreds of thousands of dollars. [4:12:37, 4:12:40]: See, we got one rate earlier. [4:12:40, 4:12:43]: And we got a higher rate this time because they changed. [4:12:44, 4:12:45]: Because it took so long. [4:12:47, 4:12:49]: Delay costs money. [4:12:49, 4:12:57]: See, just like with the developers and the builders, when the wood cost has doubled within the last two to three months. [4:12:57, 4:12:58]: Добуд. [4:12:59, 4:13:05]: Because of the forest fires in California, it costs developers more money when you slow their project down. [4:13:06, 4:13:10]: Because of a developer could have got their project in the ground in November and December. [4:13:11, 4:13:13]: Their cost would have been half. [4:13:14, 4:13:15]: Of what they are now. [4:13:16, 4:13:16]: So [4:13:17, 4:13:21]: Yeah, when they're where when they're pinching pennies to try to get to where they're going. [4:13:21, 4:13:25]: They're pinching pennies because it's taking too long to get around to things. [4:13:25, 4:13:34]: Delay costs money. And in 2021, it's gonna cost a lot of money to a lot of folks because every time you delay, [4:13:34, 4:13:43]: And the Fed is talking about inflation and the Fed is talking about the economy coming back. And when two trillion dollars hits this economy. [4:13:44, 4:13:45]: Okay. [4:13:45, 4:13:49]: This fourteen million dollars that we're bonding now, okay. [4:13:49, 4:13:51]: That payment goes up. [4:13:53, 4:13:53]: So [4:13:54, 4:13:55]: We can talk about delay. [4:13:56, 4:14:07]: But we need to get on a streamlined process and move the process forward. Because if we don't move the process forward now, the next time the bond and the next time we get a quote. [4:14:07, 4:14:09]: The interest rate is going to go up. [4:14:10, 4:14:12]: Okay, the interest rate is going to go up. [4:14:13, 4:14:15]: As we know there is another splash coming. [4:14:16, 4:14:17]: Right. [4:14:17, 4:14:18]: There's another splash coming. [4:14:19, 4:14:24]: We hope to have a tea splice on the budget uh later on on this year. [4:14:24, 4:14:31]: So there's nothing against the rule that says you can't take the next floss and pay this off. Nothing. [4:14:33, 4:14:36]: Ви гивни до сидис войн. [4:14:36, 4:14:41]: After years and years and years of no projects in the city getting done. [4:14:42, 4:14:44]: We're actually getting things done. [4:14:45, 4:14:48]: This bond issuance helps us to pay for the amphitheater. [4:14:48, 4:14:50]: The Culture Arts Center. [4:14:50, 4:14:51]: The police. [4:14:51, 4:14:54]: Uh startup costs all of the above. [4:14:55, 4:14:59]: We've had these discussions over and over again, yet we continue to go down the same road. [4:15:00, 4:15:03]: We gotta lead, ladies and gentlemen. It takes courage to lead. [4:15:04, 4:15:06]: And be in that mode to mo to move forward. [4:15:07, 4:15:09]: So what are we gonna do? Are we gonna sit here and talk about this? [4:15:10, 4:15:11]: We're gonna go ahead and pass it. [4:15:11, 4:15:14]: Because in the end, if we don't pass it today. [4:15:15, 4:15:17]: The next time it's gonna be a little bit higher. [4:15:18, 4:15:19]: So [4:15:20, 4:15:22]: That's my fault. That's my that's my my spiel. [4:15:23, 4:15:24]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [4:15:24, 4:15:28]: Um Mr. Mayor, thank you. I I just want to remind the council. [4:15:29, 4:15:32]: That Mr. Knight and I showed [4:15:32, 4:15:36]: A surplus of five hundred thousand dollars. [4:15:36, 4:15:38]: Annually [4:15:38, 4:15:41]: uh just by bringing permit in in house. [4:15:41, 4:15:46]: And and that was just based on twenty twenty, which was a was a lean year. [4:15:47, 4:15:47]: Um [4:15:47, 4:15:51]: But after the discussions, uh, I will make the motion. [4:15:51, 4:15:53]: I will yield now to [4:15:53, 4:15:57]: uh allow for other comments, but I just want to remind council. [4:15:58, 4:15:58]: That [4:15:59, 4:16:00]: Three hundred [4:16:00, 4:16:03]: To five hundred thousand dollars annually. [4:16:04, 4:16:08]: That we are not realizing simple because. [4:16:08, 4:16:10]: We are not bringing [4:16:11, 4:16:13]: those services. [4:16:14, 4:16:15]: In-house. [4:16:17, 4:16:17]: Right. [4:16:18, 4:16:26]: Um mayor Tim, go ahead. Yeah, really quick. Now think about this. There's five hundred thousand dollars. We get ready to start our police force. [4:16:27, 4:16:40]: We already know there's an additional five hundred thousand dollars out of there in revenue that's being collected in our city and sent to the state yearly, right? Because the trap this the the citations are not coming to the court. [4:16:40, 4:16:42]: The citations wanna increase. [4:16:42, 4:16:47]: they'll just be transferred into the city. So we already know that. So in addition to what uh [4:16:48, 4:16:49]: Councilman Thomas just stated. [4:16:49, 4:16:52]: By developing by bringing the police department [4:16:53, 4:16:57]: uh to fruition as we said, we'll be able to bring that back. [4:16:57, 4:16:59]: А те до ситі муніципол корт. [4:17:00, 4:17:10]: All right. Uh I saw a hand up earlier. Uh Ms. Gantt, was that your hand I saw earlier? Nope. Okay. Anyone? Oh, I'll put it uh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [4:17:13, 4:17:14]: Okay, so [4:17:14, 4:17:15]: Um [4:17:16, 4:17:19]: Not really a question, it's more of a statement. [4:17:19, 4:17:20]: And [4:17:21, 4:17:22]: I know. [4:17:22, 4:17:24]: With these bonds. [4:17:24, 4:17:27]: um the issuance of these bonds, we need legal counsel. [4:17:28, 4:17:30]: Have a real problem. [4:17:31, 4:17:33]: When we're paying these attorneys. [4:17:33, 4:17:35]: On the front end, a salary. [4:17:37, 4:17:39]: but yet they're also getting paid. [4:17:39, 4:17:40]: On the back end. [4:17:41, 4:17:41]: With these boxes. [4:17:43, 4:17:44]: This was [4:17:45, 4:17:46]: The very topic. [4:17:47, 4:17:50]: That I spoke with the former city attorney about. [4:17:51, 4:17:53]: I think my second or third month on the council. [4:17:54, 4:17:58]: In which he agreed to remove the language. [4:17:58, 4:17:59]: From his contract. [4:18:01, 4:18:03]: So that he would not be compensated. [4:18:03, 4:18:05]: From these bonds. [4:18:08, 4:18:11]: Mr. Knighton, I spoke with him last week or the week before. [4:18:11, 4:18:13]: Along with Mr. Walls. [4:18:13, 4:18:15]: In regards to my concerns. [4:18:16, 4:18:21]: With the attorneys being paid on the back end of these bonds. [4:18:21, 4:18:24]: They're being hired to provide legal counsel. [4:18:25, 4:18:31]: I understand that there are um processes and paperwork that needs to go through the court systems. [4:18:32, 4:18:33]: But they are attorneys. [4:18:34, 4:18:36]: That's what we hire them for. [4:18:36, 4:18:38]: We're paying them on the front end. [4:18:38, 4:18:39]: To provide us. [4:18:40, 4:18:41]: With legal advice. [4:18:42, 4:18:47]: Why is it now necessary for us to also pay them one percent? [4:18:47, 4:18:51]: of this twenty five million dollars. I got a problem with that. [4:18:52, 4:18:54]: Is the very reason why? [4:18:54, 4:18:59]: I asked Mr. Williams to change or remove that language from his contract. [4:19:01, 4:19:02]: So while he was here. [4:19:03, 4:19:04]: With the city. [4:19:05, 4:19:07]: He was not going to be paid. [4:19:07, 4:19:09]: Or be compensated from these bonds. [4:19:10, 4:19:13]: Now that he's aligned himself with the PFA board. [4:19:14, 4:19:15]: He now has an opportunity. [4:19:15, 4:19:16]: to be paid. [4:19:17, 4:19:20]: Or compensated from these volumes. [4:19:21, 4:19:24]: Mr. Berry and Mr. Washington are just coming on board. [4:19:25, 4:19:31]: I know that they're gonna be splitting this uh one percent of the bonds. I just have a real problem. [4:19:31, 4:19:33]: with them being paid on the back end. [4:19:34, 4:19:36]: That's all. I just wanted to make that comment. [4:19:38, 4:19:40]: Councilman Blanc, go ahead, please. [4:19:42, 4:19:48]: Mayor, one of the things that I truly understand is that when any city and you can look across this country [4:19:49, 4:19:51]: Anytime there's bonding being done. [4:19:52, 4:19:58]: Your city attorney is gonna get paid and the financial advisor's gonna get paid off those bonds. That's just the way the system is set up. [4:19:59, 4:20:00]: Nothing is done for free. [4:20:01, 4:20:02]: Um [4:20:02, 4:20:06]: One of the things that c concerns me more than that. [4:20:07, 4:20:11]: Is that this city has put ourselves in a position with these bonds? [4:20:12, 4:20:19]: That we're speaking on terms of paying how we can pay this, like it's not more taxpayers' money, rather, it's PLOS. [4:20:20, 4:20:24]: Or whether it's extra revenue coming in is still taxpayers' money. [4:20:25, 4:20:29]: And when we talk about taking a five hundred uh a one point five million plus hit. [4:20:30, 4:20:36]: for six years and then uh uh over six m uh about a million dollar hit after that. But we sit here and we'll talk like [4:20:37, 4:20:41]: It's not taxpayers' money, even if it's extra revenue. [4:20:43, 4:20:45]: We're talking about taxpayers' money, we're talking about [4:20:46, 4:20:53]: What it takes to make sound decision. When we make this decision to bond and we're gonna hold 14 million dollars in the bank. [4:20:54, 4:20:57]: to pay revenue to pay interest on. [4:20:57, 4:21:03]: Which came against the standard that was that that that our financial advisor has said that we [4:21:03, 4:21:05]: He wouldn't advise that. [4:21:06, 4:21:08]: A paid financial advisor. [4:21:09, 4:21:15]: We've got our city manager that Steve B uh Bundy added that he knows that [4:21:15, 4:21:17]: This shouldn't go this way. [4:21:18, 4:21:27]: But we got elected officials that have approved 14, we we know we gotta finish the amphitheater, but we got 14 million dollars in bonds we're getting ready to pay, y'all. [4:21:28, 4:21:31]: One over one point five miljon dollars a year on for six years. [4:21:32, 4:21:33]: But it's okay. [4:21:34, 4:21:36]: Because we got extra revenue coming in. [4:21:36, 4:21:38]: All of it is taxpayers' money. [4:21:39, 4:21:53]: All of it is taxpayer money. And for us to sit money in the bank and bonds to pay interest on before we do a project, instead of looking at how we're gonna do this and move about and then take the advice of the people we've hired to give us the advice. [4:21:54, 4:21:55]: А е за ситисон. [4:21:56, 4:21:59]: Didn't want to see this city go down that road, but we have. [4:22:00, 4:22:00]: And now [4:22:01, 4:22:04]: Дефвита фенечі тленус. [4:22:05, 4:22:07]: A financial advisor telling us. [4:22:07, 4:22:15]: That we may have to implement a tax to pay this because our budget is only about 12 million, and we're talking about now. [4:22:15, 4:22:23]: We're talking 1.5 million and other costs that we're going to accumulate because we have capital improvement projects already going, major project. [4:22:25, 4:22:27]: So, but it's okay. [4:22:28, 4:22:29]: Because we got [4:22:29, 4:22:30]: Other funds coming in. [4:22:32, 4:22:33]: Councilman Thomas, go ahead, please. [4:22:34, 4:22:38]: Mr. Mayor, I I move that we approve the um [4:22:39, 4:22:43]: Bond interest rate for fees and distributions. [4:22:43, 4:22:50]: All right, is that a second? Second. Second. Okay, mayor pro tem second that. Okay, unless there's other further discussion. [4:22:50, 4:22:52]: If it's not all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [4:22:53, 4:22:54]: Okay. [4:22:55, 4:22:57]: Oh all right. Miss Barber, you had your [4:22:59, 4:23:03]: I'm I'm so are you are you voting for it and against it or just abstain? [4:23:05, 4:23:06]: Ms. Barber, are you voting for it or? [4:23:08, 4:23:10]: Did you call for the vote? [4:23:10, 4:23:19]: I know I we already voted. Oh, I thought we vo voted. I was just wondering where you vote. I I got four comf uh affirmatives. I wouldn't sure are you forward to vote? It's unanimous decision then. Okay. [4:23:19, 4:23:20]: All right, thank you. [4:23:20, 4:23:25]: Appreciate that. Um what's next what's next or my comments? [4:23:25, 4:23:35]: Oh Mayor Ford, Mayor Ford, I think Councilman Blount Councilman Blount didn't Councilman Blount did not was not included on that vote. I didn't vote. I'm sorry in affirmative. [4:23:36, 4:23:37]: So you are okay, so it's [4:23:37, 4:23:40]: So you you're a so what is one? [4:23:40, 4:23:45]: Four oh four to one. All right, excuse me. I'm sorry. Excuse me. Thank you for getting it straight. Appreciate that. [4:23:45, 4:23:46]: All right. Um [4:23:47, 4:23:51]: Couple of notes, a couple uh things I need to mention. First of all, it's your constitutional right to [4:23:52, 4:24:04]: to vote. So the Henry County clause number six is is up for a referendum right now. And um so that's proposed investments of$325 million with the Henry County school system. [4:24:04, 4:24:24]: And the project list, you can check that out at uh henryesbloss.com. So we're looking at creating a STEM opportunities, addressing uh constant growth uh which which the county is having. School system upgrades, technology upgrades, transportation upgrades. Uh early voting is going on right now at the Merle Manders Conference Center. [4:24:24, 4:24:44]: and all the and even at the Fairview to Austin Roads and uh then as I and I know I asked the clerk earlier today this before the meeting started that actually on the sixteenth of uh March, actual election day, you go to your normal poll, uh your election poll to uh to actually vote on that particular day itself. [4:24:44, 4:25:04]: So it's constitutional rights, so please get out there and vote, folks. And also the 90th district, the state representative has a runoff if you actually happen to be a citizen in the area that is represented by the 90th district. And that is actually being conducted at Merrill Man. [4:25:04, 4:25:05]: Conference center as well. [4:25:06, 4:25:17]: Yeah. Um let's talk about the vaccination and which is uh ongoing as we as we is now in reference to this COVID nineteen. Um [4:25:18, 4:25:38]: The March 16th next Tuesday. Uh it'll be the second doses for JP Mosley. And then March 23rd and the 30th on Tuesday. It'll be a second doses for people uh that have to go to uh to um locust grove. All right, and uh that's from 8:30 to 3 p.m. now second. [4:25:38, 4:25:40]: [15941.1, 15947.2]: And I said Mark 16th and JP Mosley, that's really the individuals that that had their first doses at the Merrill Miners Conference Center. [4:25:47, 4:25:52]: Several weeks ago, actually three weeks ago, the second doses will be at JP Mosley. [4:25:52, 4:25:55]: Okay. Now and of course to make a reservation. [4:25:56, 4:26:02]: for any of the vaccination shots and the public uh health department number to do this would be seven six two [4:26:03, 4:26:06]: eight eight eight eight one eight zero. Once again seven six two [4:26:07, 4:26:09]: eight eight eight eight one eight zero. [4:26:10, 4:26:15]: Now starting on March twenty fifth, the county has worked it out with the Atlanta Motor Speedway. [4:26:16, 4:26:17]: Yeah, starting March twenty fifth. [4:26:18, 4:26:21]: The uh vaccinations will be conducted at [4:26:21, 4:26:23]: Atlanta Motor Speedway. [4:26:23, 4:26:27]: And uh that's Tarson eight eight thirty to two forty five. [4:26:27, 4:26:44]: And it's like a max uh vaccination site. They're looking at roughly a thousand to fifteen hundred people uh to handle through that uh drive-thru um max uh vaccination site. So uh so actually vaccinations always open up on Wednesday at um [4:26:45, 4:26:45]: Eight o'clock. [4:26:46, 4:26:48]: And go from Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. [4:26:48, 4:26:58]: you know, to make your appointment. And um it is eight to five every day. And then once again that's 762-888-8180. [4:26:59, 4:27:00]: All right. [4:27:00, 4:27:16]: Now, the Henry County Schools, this general information for folks, and if there's school teachers out here, it's been notified that the the uh governor wants to get the school teachers and the school personnel vaccinated. Well, the Henry County County schools now have their own pod. [4:27:17, 4:27:21]: And uh they have the Johnson and Johnson. [4:27:21, 4:27:26]: One shot, Johnson and Johnson for all school teachers and and folks within the school system. [4:27:27, 4:27:47]: And that'll be conducted on Wednesdays. And this Wednesday for sure, there are roughly gonna be 300 people that they want to vaccinate with the Johnson and Johnson. And that's gonna be at the old Henry County Middle School location. The old Henry County School Mid uh uh middle school location is where I'll be done. That's open, that'll be available for school teachers and school personnel. [4:27:47, 4:27:49]: Nine A. M. to three PM. [4:27:49, 4:28:05]: And then the following Wednesdays, they're looking to get uh five hundred or six hundred people in the school system vaccinated. And uh they roughly have uh thirty four hundred doses scheduled of Johnson and Johnson, which is one shot. [4:28:05, 4:28:11]: Uh for the Henry County School System, some general information for you. And I forgot to mention this earlier. When you go to Atlanta Motor Speedway, [4:28:12, 4:28:32]: That'd be the Pfizer vaccination, by the way. Pfizer, when we go to the Atlanta Motor Speedway, and it's based on the uh the availability of the doses. So uh and that's so so you so you need to know that. Now, also vaccinations have the priority, but if you still need to be [4:28:32, 4:28:52]: be tested. All right. And the Heritage Senior Center at 1050 Florence McGardy Boulevard in McDonough will still test you. You have to set an appointment for that though. Once again that's 800-847-4262. 800-847-4262 for a testing. The priority [4:28:52, 4:28:58]: of course is on vaccinations, but some people still need to get tested so that that you can do that. That's Monday to Thursday. [4:28:59, 4:29:00]: Nine AM to three PM. [4:29:01, 4:29:03]: Or Saturdays nine AM to twelve moon. [4:29:03, 4:29:05]: Twelve noon, excuse me. [4:29:05, 4:29:06]: at the Heritage Senior Center. [4:29:07, 4:29:08]: All right. [4:29:08, 4:29:11]: Now a bit of information that you need to know. [4:29:11, 4:29:12]: Found out this today. [4:29:13, 4:29:18]: You know, you've heard about in the media and the news there's different variations of this covet nineteen. [4:29:19, 4:29:21]: Well, unfortunately s uh Henry County. [4:29:22, 4:29:23]: And stop breed specifically. [4:29:24, 4:29:25]: Have hit the radar screen. [4:29:26, 4:29:29]: І South African virus of ковід найти. [4:29:29, 4:29:32]: What's it called? B one five one three one. [4:29:32, 4:29:34]: has one case [4:29:34, 4:29:36]: And where it happened to be the first case. [4:29:36, 4:29:37]: In Georgia. [4:29:38, 4:29:39]: Someone [4:29:39, 4:29:40]: Unfortunately. [4:29:41, 4:29:44]: In Henry County, even more so, I've been told in Stockbridge. [4:29:45, 4:30:05]: Came up with the South African virus. All right. Now they're gonna the public health department's gonna research this further in reference to other cases with the that may be in Georgia. But supposedly we unfortunately have the very first one of this virus. They also acknowledge the fact that the European virus or the UK virus, basically what they call it, that's a B117. [4:30:05, 4:30:11]: is in the state. I didn't they I didn't give me a total of number of people, but somehow this virus is in the state as well. [4:30:12, 4:30:15]: So my point to everybody, of course, is this this is real. [4:30:15, 4:30:32]: This is not fake. This is real and it's serious. So mask up, wash your hands, use hand sanitizer, stay away from big crowds, and uh just be careful and get your vaccination when the time comes up, when you're qualified for that. And if you want to get tested, go please go get tested. [4:30:33, 4:30:37]: And in this aspect, extremely important and it's extremely dare a dangerous virus. [4:30:38, 4:30:58]: Um, I believe that is all my comments at this time, other than the fact that uh I'd like for you all to keep your uh keep prayers and keep the um Gary Barnum and his family in your prayers and um and just keep yourself safe in the process because um the COVID [4:30:58, 4:31:02]: We'll take you out if you're not ready, if you're not right for this. So just be safe. [4:31:04, 4:31:10]: Um on that note, I'll move on to other comments. Uh city offices are closed due to COVID 19 precautions. [4:31:11, 4:31:31]: City offices are closed until further notice. And if you have to go to the city website, which is citystoppers.com and to get any additional information on things that are going on with the city or any service information whatsoever. And of course, uh you go to Facebook page or contact city hall offices at 770-389-7900. [4:31:31, 4:31:33]: [16294.3, 16314.3]: City Council meeting is uh the 30th, the second Monday of each month, which should our next one will be the 12th of April. Main Street Advisory Board meeting is 9 a.m. And by way of Zoom. Matter of fact, all these meetings by way of Zoom. Second Friday of each month, which should be 12 March. Downtown Development Authority meeting is 6 p.m. by way of Zoom. [4:31:54, 4:31:58]: third Tuesday of each month at uh which will be sixteenth March. [4:31:59, 4:32:19]: The U Council Advisory meeting is 6 30 by way of Zoom, 30 the third third excuse me, the third Tuesday of each month, which is also 16 uh March. And the Planning Commission meeting is uh 6:30 by way of Zoom, the fourth Thursday of each month, and that'll be the 25th of March. And our next council work session is 6 p.m. by Zoom. And of course. [4:32:19, 4:32:32]: course it's the last Tuesday of each month and that'd be the 30 March. And uh council, I need a motion to go in as a for specific uh legal litigation issues. Okay. [4:32:32, 4:32:33]: Come. [4:32:33, 4:32:38]: No move. Ms. Plus, so move. Second Gantt, second dad. All in favor, please indicate. [4:32:40, 4:32:43]: All right. Thank you very much. Um [4:32:43, 4:32:57]: I will say, Miss Holliday, we need separate uh email links to get in. I have ten twenty eight. So uh we need ten minutes or so. We need ten minutes to before we get this and get back in the exact session. That'll work. [4:32:58, 4:32:59]: I can't hear you, Miss Holliday. [4:33:01, 4:33:08]: Yeah. Only about five. It won't take that long. All right. So I'll see ladies and gentlemen about five minutes or so. Thank you. [4:33:11, 4:33:13]: Please exit this meeting. [4:33:23, 4:33:24]: Okay. [4:39:03, 4:39:09]: Right, so we got uh we are missing the clerk is not present. [4:39:10, 4:39:13]: And uh Barber's not present. [4:39:16, 4:39:17]: Can't you hear me? [4:39:28, 4:39:30]: Okay, where's the clerk? [4:39:35, 4:39:35]: Just trying to get in there. [4:39:36, 4:39:37]: Okay. Thank you, sir. [4:39:59, 4:40:01]: Okay, so we [4:40:02, 4:40:05]: Everybody. Well well wait a minute. [4:40:06, 4:40:09]: Uh Miss Can, are you online? [4:40:11, 4:40:14]: It's cancer, okay. [4:40:16, 4:40:17]: Please. [4:40:18, 4:40:19]: I don't believe my [4:40:20, 4:40:22]: Or Miss and Miss Barber. [4:40:23, 4:40:24]: There she comes. [4:40:28, 4:40:34]: All right. So we have everybody now. So council, I need a motion to end executive session, please. [4:40:37, 4:40:38]: Estamos. [4:40:38, 4:40:45]: Okay. Okay. So Miss Ms. Gantt? Mr. Thomas. All right. Thank you. All favor, please indicate. [4:40:47, 4:40:52]: Okay, thank you very much. Now I need a motion to convene our council meeting, please. [4:40:52, 4:40:53]: Come move. [4:40:53, 4:41:08]: Okay, is there a second? Okay, Ms. Thomas seconds that one as well. Thank you. Um before you do that, we have nothing to report uh uh from the executive session for the general public. So on that note, folks, I need a motion to end our council meeting. So moved. [4:41:08, 4:41:09]: There's like [4:41:10, 4:41:13]: Ms. uh Mr. Thomas again Thomas again, all in favor, please indicate. [4:41:14, 4:41:19]: Okay. Snaps to s good night everybody. Have a good evening. Good night.

--- title: Planning Commission Meeting Via Zoom date: 2021-02-25 source: 2021-02-25_Planning_Commission_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:03]: I think having some trouble or we're looking for an invitation. [0:00:03, 0:00:06]: He's on his way. He's connecting now. Okay. [0:01:24, 0:01:27]: Mm. [0:02:11, 0:02:13]: Linda, do you hear me? [0:02:13, 0:02:14]: Yes. [0:02:14, 0:02:15]: Okay, thank you. [0:06:30, 0:06:31]: Ms. Wallace, can you hear me? [0:06:32, 0:06:33]: Can you hear me? [0:06:36, 0:06:40]: I can hear you. Okay, good. I don't know what's from I had to use a headphone. [0:06:40, 0:06:40]: Okay. [0:06:41, 0:06:42]: All right, good evening everyone. [0:06:42, 0:06:44]: Good evening. [0:06:44, 0:06:45]: Screaming. [0:06:45, 0:06:47]: Okay, it's we're a little delayed here. [0:06:48, 0:06:49]: Sorry about that. [0:06:52, 0:06:54]: Uh I wanna call the meeting to order. [0:06:59, 0:07:00]: Call to order. [0:07:03, 0:07:06]: Uh this is Miss Nelson. I'll make a motion to call the meeting to order. [0:07:07, 0:07:09]: Uh all in favor, let it be known by Sandovae. [0:07:11, 0:07:11]: I [0:07:11, 0:07:12]: No the poles. [0:07:13, 0:07:16]: I said, uh the meeting is open. [0:07:16, 0:07:17]: Uh [0:07:18, 0:07:22]: Is Mr. Doom is present? Mr. Doom is how about an invocation invo invocation from you? [0:07:24, 0:07:25]: Mr. Doomis. [0:07:27, 0:07:29]: Hello, Mr. Doomis. [0:07:31, 0:07:32]: Mr. Doomis. [0:07:33, 0:07:35]: Does not have audio capability. [0:07:35, 0:07:36]: Uh [0:07:38, 0:07:38]: Okay. [0:07:39, 0:07:41]: Miss Wallace, you wanna give us an invocation? [0:07:45, 0:07:46]: Let's all bow heads. [0:07:48, 0:07:51]: Thank you, Lord, for bringing us together on this night. [0:07:51, 0:07:57]: to do the bidding for our cities and I ask you to bless all of us and our families and friends. [0:07:57, 0:07:59]: In the name of Jesus, amen. [0:07:59, 0:08:00]: Amen. [0:08:02, 0:08:04]: Pledge of allegiance. I'll lead that. [0:08:05, 0:08:08]: I fled the legions to the flag of the United States of America. [0:08:08, 0:08:14]: To the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:08:17, 0:08:19]: Uh l uh l Miss Logan. [0:08:20, 0:08:20]: Yes. [0:08:21, 0:08:23]: What about a uh roll call? [0:08:23, 0:08:26]: Okay, ask Kid Abdullah. [0:08:26, 0:08:27]: Present. [0:08:27, 0:08:29]: Shirley Wallace? [0:08:30, 0:08:31]: Present. [0:08:32, 0:08:33]: Stanley Dumas? [0:08:36, 0:08:37]: Okay, he's raising his hand. [0:08:38, 0:08:39]: Harold Dibno? [0:08:39, 0:08:40]: Thibodeau. [0:08:43, 0:08:43]: Yeah. [0:08:45, 0:08:48]: I saw his name a few minutes ago. [0:08:50, 0:08:53]: We count him as present. I'll see if he rejoins us later. [0:08:54, 0:08:57]: Okay, what about Miss Nelson? Kathleen Nelson. [0:08:57, 0:08:58]: Present. [0:08:58, 0:09:00]: Okay, and David Planchin. [0:09:00, 0:09:02]: Present. Okay. [0:09:07, 0:09:09]: I believe we have a quorum. [0:09:11, 0:09:12]: Ms. Logan? [0:09:12, 0:09:15]: Yes, we have uh five of the six who responded. [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: Members. [0:09:19, 0:09:22]: Um I have a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:09:26, 0:09:30]: Linda, did you make the changes on the agenda? Um I had sent you [0:09:31, 0:09:37]: concerns about about the agenda, did you make those corrections and send it back out? If you did, I did not see it. [0:09:38, 0:09:41]: I added public hearing to it. [0:09:41, 0:09:50]: Uh what what other corrections did you have? It was the corrections about my statement about um Oh, those are the meeting minutes. Yes. Yes, it did. [0:09:51, 0:09:53]: Right now we're adopting the agenda. [0:09:56, 0:09:58]: I'll motion to adopt the agenda. [0:09:59, 0:10:00]: I'll second it. [0:10:01, 0:10:04]: Uh, this has been moved by Miss Wallace, second by Mr. Platchard. [0:10:04, 0:10:07]: All those in favor let it be known by a sign of I. [0:10:07, 0:10:09]: I those opposed. [0:10:10, 0:10:14]: The eyes have it, the motion to the adopting of the agenda is accepted. [0:10:15, 0:10:18]: The uh approval of the amendments from December seventeenth. [0:10:19, 0:10:24]: Have you all had an opportunity to read those? And if so, are there any corrections or amendments to it? [0:10:25, 0:10:32]: There was a correction that had my concern about my statement about Councilman Alexander's um approaching me. [0:10:32, 0:10:36]: to vote in favor of this particular um action item. [0:10:36, 0:10:41]: But um Linda said she was gonna remove it from the [0:10:41, 0:10:45]: From the um meeting, I mean the notes for the from the previous meeting. [0:10:45, 0:10:47]: But I had not received an update. [0:10:48, 0:10:49]: I re I removed it. [0:10:50, 0:10:54]: Okay. We'll accept that statement. That's correct. Any other amendments? [0:10:56, 0:11:01]: Hearing none, have a motion to uh adopt the previous minutes from December seventeenth. [0:11:02, 0:11:04]: I'm busy of that. [0:11:04, 0:11:07]: With the with the amend amendment from uh Miss Wallace. [0:11:07, 0:11:09]: I move to adopt the amended minutes. [0:11:10, 0:11:11]: Can I get a second? [0:11:12, 0:11:14]: This is Kathleen Nelson. I'll second it. [0:11:14, 0:11:20]: All right, it's been moved by Miss Wallace, second by Miss Uh Miss Nelson. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [0:11:21, 0:11:27]: Aye. Those opposed, ayes have it. The amendments from December seventeenth are approved. [0:11:27, 0:11:30]: I did uh excuse me, I did um resend the [0:11:30, 0:11:31]: Minutes out. [0:11:31, 0:11:34]: Yesterday, along with the the staff report and the agenda. [0:11:36, 0:11:36]: Okay. [0:11:37, 0:11:38]: We accept that. [0:11:41, 0:11:42]: New business. [0:11:47, 0:11:48]: You don't have any new business? [0:11:50, 0:11:51]: O business. [0:11:56, 0:11:57]: Ms. Logan. [0:11:58, 0:12:01]: Yes, we're gonna open Ms. Chairman, you gonna open the public hearing? [0:12:02, 0:12:05]: Or do you want me want me first read this? I think you should first read it. [0:12:06, 0:12:07]: Okay. [0:12:07, 0:12:27]: Old business rezoning case number RZ20202 deferred from the December 17, 2020 meeting. Neil Koble requests the rezoning of certain property from RA Residential Agricultural District to R3 Single Family Residential District to allow for the development of a single [0:12:27, 0:12:47]: Family residential subdivision. The property is located in land lot 29 of District 7 within the Stockbridge city limits along the southeast corner of Brandon Road and North Salem Drive. It contains 73.71 total acres, which previously consisted of five parcels. The planning commission approved the recombination. [0:12:47, 0:13:04]: of the five parcels to form just one parcel at its last meeting on December 17, 2020. This occurred via recombination plat case number RC202003, which had the same applicant as this rezoning case. [0:13:04, 0:13:22]: For the record, the parcels were as follows seven thirty two Brandon Road, that's parcel number O eight eight, O two O four, nine O. Six six six six six six six four Brandon Road, that's parcel number O eight eight hyphen O two O five O [0:13:23, 0:13:26]: And parcel at six one eight, Brandon Road. [0:13:27, 0:13:31]: That's parcel number O eight eight hyphen O two O five one O [0:13:32, 0:13:46]: A large parcel on Brandon Road with parcel number 088, hyphen 0204-9005, and a small parcel on North Salem Drive, uh parcel number 088-0204-5000. [0:13:48, 0:13:49]: Alright. [0:13:50, 0:13:53]: Uh Miss uh Logan, were there any staff comments on this? [0:13:55, 0:14:02]: I have a PowerPoint presentation. Were you gonna open a public hearing? Oh no, you I'm sorry, you're gonna open that after make a presentation. [0:14:02, 0:14:09]: I think we should hear this the the the uh staff comment first what the what they what they're recommending. [0:14:09, 0:14:10]: Okay. [0:14:11, 0:14:12]: So you ready for my presentation? [0:14:13, 0:14:13]: Yes. [0:14:13, 0:14:14]: Okay. [0:14:14, 0:14:16]: So I need to share my screen. [0:14:17, 0:14:18]: Yes. [0:14:18, 0:14:19]: Okay, um [0:14:20, 0:14:22]: I don't know whether you can see that now. [0:14:23, 0:14:23]: Pardon me? [0:14:24, 0:14:27]: I have my I have my presentation open. [0:14:28, 0:14:28]: C [0:14:31, 0:14:31]: Oh [0:14:35, 0:14:37]: Click that share button that screen button at the bottom, Linda. [0:14:38, 0:14:41]: I don't not see a share button because [0:14:42, 0:14:43]: You don't see her. [0:14:44, 0:14:46]: Do not see any share button. [0:14:46, 0:14:49]: Move your mouse down close to the bottom and it'll pop up the bottom bar. [0:14:58, 0:15:02]: You see that arrow at the bottom, um Ms. Logan? Pardon me? [0:15:02, 0:15:03]: Yes, okay. [0:15:04, 0:15:08]: All right, let's see if this works. All right. Can everyone see this? [0:15:10, 0:15:11]: Not visible yet. [0:15:12, 0:15:15]: Well I clicked on the oh oh here's one more step. Here we go. [0:15:15, 0:15:16]: There we go. All right. [0:15:18, 0:15:20]: All right, how about now? Can everyone see that? [0:15:20, 0:15:21]: Yes. [0:15:21, 0:15:37]: All right, I have to move this out of the way. All right, so this is the cover uh sheet that um has a RZ202002 rezoning case from RA to R3 for proposed subdivision Brandon Road at North Salem Drive. [0:15:38, 0:15:43]: Uh some of you have seen this at the last meeting, but I've made some changes and added some new slides. [0:15:43, 0:16:00]: Here is the city's 2020 zoning map. I'm bringing this up to show the location of this property, which is here in yellow. It is at the eastern, southeastern edge of the Stockbridge city limits. [0:16:01, 0:16:11]: And here is an enlargement. This is the property right here. This is this is Brandon Road north and south. And uh North Salem Drive is here. [0:16:11, 0:16:17]: Uh we have some other subdivisions, a Clark Meadows subdivision here, Moss Point subdivision here. [0:16:18, 0:16:21]: Um this is an enlargement of the property. [0:16:21, 0:16:22]: It shows the [0:16:23, 0:16:26]: Five parcels that recently were combined. [0:16:27, 0:16:27]: No. [0:16:28, 0:16:33]: Okay, there's an aerial photo here, uh showing how it looks from above. [0:16:37, 0:16:43]: And uh some more aerial photos. These were shows the property with the previous parcels. [0:16:43, 0:16:44]: And um [0:16:45, 0:16:46]: These are all the land the [0:16:47, 0:16:50]: Tax IDs if anyone needs to look up [0:16:51, 0:16:54]: particular property that shows up on the tax assessor website. [0:16:54, 0:16:57]: And another enlargement of the site. [0:16:57, 0:17:03]: This is what the applicant submitted, the um this is the survey of a property from the the surveyor. [0:17:04, 0:17:19]: This is another aerial photo. Actually, the applicant's attorney provided this to us and that the site is here. And I know that it's tiny, but it shows all the um surrounding subdivisions. Again, Clark Meadows here across the street from the site. [0:17:19, 0:17:20]: Most point. [0:17:21, 0:17:22]: Subdivision here. [0:17:22, 0:17:26]: There's a few others. The summit at Eagles Landing here. [0:17:26, 0:17:27]: Um [0:17:28, 0:17:30]: Highlands at Eagles Landing. [0:17:30, 0:17:31]: Here. [0:17:31, 0:17:32]: Um [0:17:32, 0:17:33]: Crown walk. [0:17:34, 0:17:36]: And a couple others. [0:17:37, 0:17:38]: Can't can't read that. [0:17:40, 0:17:41]: Okay, let's move on. [0:17:42, 0:17:42]: Um [0:17:43, 0:17:48]: Surrounding land uses, we have scattered single family homes. Um [0:17:49, 0:17:54]: Country acre subdivision to the southeast, more single family homes, some vacant land. [0:17:55, 0:17:55]: Um [0:17:57, 0:17:59]: You're probably all familiar with the area. [0:18:00, 0:18:01]: Okay. [0:18:02, 0:18:18]: So the rezoning quest, again, the applicant is Neil Koble. Attorney is Battle Law representing him. Agent is More Bas Consulting, the traffic engineer who is with us, Mark Akampora. He prepared a traffic impact study. Developers Liberty Communities LLC. [0:18:19, 0:18:31]: The request is to rezone the subject property, include the five previous parcels from R A to R3 to allow for development subdivision. The proposed name is the reserve at Hickory Hills. [0:18:32, 0:18:48]: Okay, I just read the uh five parcels to you. Uh uh we have posted the rezoning signs. We first posted on October twenty-sixth last year. Um case was deferred a couple of times. We have posted some new signs uh recently. [0:18:50, 0:18:55]: Actually may come down here. These these are the signs. Here's the one on North Salem uh Drive. [0:18:56, 0:19:02]: And this is a one at um seven thirty two Brandon Road um near the [0:19:02, 0:19:05]: Near the uh silo. It's front of it. [0:19:06, 0:19:10]: And then uh the one further down near near Mo across from Moss Point subdivision. [0:19:12, 0:19:13]: Okay. [0:19:13, 0:19:14]: Let's see. [0:19:15, 0:19:24]: Some of this I've covered already. So again, surrounding land uses rural residential, minor agricultural, several subdivisions, some vacant land. Um [0:19:24, 0:19:33]: The surrounding zoning, we have PD in Clark Meadow Meadows. That's split between R2 and R3. Moss Point is zone R2. [0:19:33, 0:19:39]: Um we have R three around the subject property. The future landing's designation is low density residential. [0:19:40, 0:19:44]: That allows a density of one point two five to two dwelling units per acre. [0:19:45, 0:20:00]: So uh zoning history, there were no previous rezoning cases. Uh the property, the the parcel 732 Brandon Road was annexed into the city in 2004. The existing cell tower was present at that time. [0:20:01, 0:20:16]: So the applicant has proposed to rezone the property to R three, uh the single family residential. The R three allows smaller lots as part of a planned development on public sewer. Minimum lot requirements in R three are twelve thousand square feet. [0:20:16, 0:20:23]: And seventy feet uh seventy five feet wide. Minimum house size one thousand fifty square feet. [0:20:24, 0:20:29]: So this property has seventy three point seven one acres according to tax assessor record. [0:20:29, 0:20:45]: There is a floodplain near the center and a small pond which exists. North Salem Drive to the north is narrow and curvy. Let's see. So the cell tower is present. There are some rural residential, small agricultural uses. [0:20:45, 0:20:53]: The tower was built, you know, by Sprintcom and ATT ATT Colocus' equipment at the present time. [0:20:54, 0:20:56]: All right, let's move down here. [0:20:56, 0:20:57]: So [0:20:58, 0:21:18]: This latest site plan that's submitted to us, uh, this is what it looks like. There had there were a few changes. Um currently the uh proposal is to have the access to the subdivision off Brandon Road be here um toward the southwest corner of the site. [0:21:18, 0:21:23]: Uh south Sprayberry Road is right here, just for your reference. So this is south of that. [0:21:25, 0:21:27]: Um okay and [0:21:27, 0:21:40]: Let me just mention there will be a proposal to to have two amenity areas uh inside the site. One is a main central uh amenity area here and the other one will be around existing fund. [0:21:41, 0:21:44]: Here's a this is from the applicant just a [0:21:44, 0:21:49]: a general idea uh what it would look what it would look like. I have some other pictures coming up. [0:21:51, 0:21:55]: Now that this is an enlargement of the site plan. This is the entrance area. [0:21:56, 0:22:16]: And uh there will be uh tree plantings along the road and a bullet boulevard style entrance here in the front, a a monument sign, um uh acceleration and deceleration lanes or are for to be installed to facilitate left and right turns. [0:22:16, 0:22:17]: Yeah. [0:22:17, 0:22:18]: Um [0:22:19, 0:22:20]: Okay. [0:22:21, 0:22:28]: This is an enlargement of the uh this site plan data is is an enlargement of what was on the site plan. [0:22:29, 0:22:40]: up here this these boxes up here just give boxes give all the the statistics of the lot sizes and the the unit sizes um [0:22:41, 0:22:44]: So I have that summarized actually in here. [0:22:45, 0:23:05]: Uh so number of lots and homes. The current proposal is to build 139 lots and 139 homes. Um, if you recall at the last meeting, it was 147 lots and 147 homes. That has been reduced in order to allow for a large centralized uh amenity. [0:23:05, 0:23:08]: area near the center of the property. [0:23:08, 0:23:21]: Uh overall density is 1.89 dwelling units per acre. Now that compares with the the future land use designation of the property, which allows up to two units per acre. So this is within [0:23:21, 0:23:35]: uh that requirement. Now net density means um 3.09. This means after after you subtract the or to account for several uh floodplain areas that are on the property where homes cannot be built. [0:23:36, 0:23:54]: So the home size is applicants proposing to build uh 2,000 square foot homes, even though our three district allows homes that are about half that size, 1,050 square feet. So so these homes will be almost double of that of the minimum size that is required. [0:23:55, 0:24:15]: Average lot size 14,0086. And this is this is a little bit larger than the minimum requirement of 12,000 uh square feet. There are some lots that are the minimum size, however, there are about half of the lots um that would [0:24:15, 0:24:27]: would be between 15,000 and 20,000 square feet, so much larger. Now in particular, the 11 lots, there are 11 lots adjacent to Brandon Road. Let me go back here to the site plan. [0:24:28, 0:24:31]: So you can see here Brand this is Brandon Road here on the left. [0:24:31, 0:24:34]: So these lots from from here. [0:24:34, 0:24:50]: all the way up to here is ele 11 lots. So these lots here gonna be um at least 15,000 square feet. The ones here in the corner is gonna be a little bit larger. Uh let's see back back here. [0:24:51, 0:25:02]: Ah, so eleven lots and all lots will be at least seventy five feet wide and would have the following yard setbacks fifty feet in the front, ten feet at the side and forty feet in the rear. [0:25:02, 0:25:10]: Here is a new slide that I just received today. This is a diag these are diagrams comparing the lot sizes. [0:25:10, 0:25:27]: comparisons made between the proposed subdivision on Brandon Road versus what is shown um across the street in Clark Meadows. So this first diagram, I know it's small, it's hard to see, but these are [0:25:27, 0:25:28]: They um [0:25:28, 0:25:34]: Proposed a lot sizes for this subdivision and this is um [0:25:34, 0:25:42]: This is Clark Meadows across the street. And then these is this these have been superimposed on top of each other. The Clark Meadows in the [0:25:42, 0:25:45]: uh pink shaded area and the green is the [0:25:46, 0:25:48]: Uh Brandon Road subdivision. [0:25:51, 0:25:54]: Okay, so back on the uh amenities. So [0:25:55, 0:25:56]: Wow. [0:25:56, 0:26:00]: The community center, I can let me go back to [0:26:01, 0:26:02]: Yeah, there's [0:26:02, 0:26:11]: So again, these are going to be located in here, the central community center here, uh community center, amenity area, and then the pond area here. [0:26:12, 0:26:23]: Okay, so as far as the actual facilities in them, the community center minute the area would be located near the center of the site, would include a swimming pool with a shade structure. [0:26:23, 0:26:30]: pavilion an open lawn open lawn area, a walking trail, a playground, and a fire print fire pit. [0:26:31, 0:26:34]: Plus a parking lot with forty-seven parking spaces. [0:26:35, 0:26:35]: Um [0:26:37, 0:26:38]: Let me see. I thought I had [0:26:41, 0:26:41]: Oh. [0:26:42, 0:26:45]: Okay, here, in a l in enlargement of that. [0:26:45, 0:26:46]: Right here. [0:26:46, 0:26:49]: This is an enlargement and this is what what it would look like. [0:26:50, 0:26:56]: open space is it would be a grass lawn area and then these these facilities pavil pavilion [0:26:56, 0:27:00]: Fire pit fire pit, playgrounds, a pool with two thousand square feet. [0:27:00, 0:27:02]: A shade structure. [0:27:02, 0:27:06]: And it will be a parking lot here for forty-seven uh cars. [0:27:07, 0:27:13]: Okay, and then uh the pond amenity area at the southwest corner. [0:27:13, 0:27:23]: uh would include a walking trail go to toward the pond, a pavilion, and something called boche ball courts, a fire pit, and a male kiosk. [0:27:24, 0:27:25]: All right, so [0:27:26, 0:27:27]: This is what that would look like. [0:27:28, 0:27:28]: Um [0:27:29, 0:27:35]: So wetlands area, the pond, uh the oh there is a dock in the pond that would remain. [0:27:35, 0:27:41]: Uh again a pavilion fire pit pit, bochi ball courts, and a male kiosk. [0:27:41, 0:27:44]: Uh I have uh see some [0:27:44, 0:27:50]: pictures here from the applicant. Uh again, this is the central amenity cent center. Um [0:27:52, 0:27:57]: Uh these are enlargers. Buffer area buffer area at the entrance showing the planted trees. [0:27:57, 0:28:02]: These are examples of types of trees, bald cypress, cherry laurel, um [0:28:03, 0:28:09]: Cryptomeria, uh Eastern Red Cedar, and Magnolia. [0:28:10, 0:28:14]: Um and this shows the reserve at Hickory Hills, a monument sign. [0:28:16, 0:28:20]: Here's an example of what a playground would look like in the in the center of the property. [0:28:21, 0:28:25]: Uh it's an example of what a fire pit would look like. [0:28:25, 0:28:29]: And this is a bochi ball court. I was not familiar with that, but this is a [0:28:30, 0:28:33]: um, photograph that was provided to me. [0:28:33, 0:28:36]: Bocce ball, it's lawn bowling for us old timers. [0:28:36, 0:28:38]: Oh, lawn bowling? [0:28:38, 0:28:40]: Yes, or bocce ball. [0:28:41, 0:28:43]: What is the objective in this game, briefly? [0:28:45, 0:28:48]: Um, kinda like shovel board, only with round balls. [0:28:49, 0:28:49]: Okay. [0:28:50, 0:28:53]: You try to knock your other opponent out of the goal zone. [0:28:54, 0:28:55]: Okay. [0:28:56, 0:29:12]: All right. Um, so again, we received uh or not I'm sorry, I received a copy of the traffic impact study. I understand that it was presented to the community on um there's a community meeting held on on January twenty-first. [0:29:12, 0:29:19]: Uh the day after this study was completed. This is the cover page or or the the title page. [0:29:19, 0:29:23]: Uh Mark and Kampura, traffic engineer, was a [0:29:23, 0:29:25]: author, he's here with us tonight. [0:29:26, 0:29:46]: So um I I have correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Akinpora, but I I have uh summarized what I saw in the report. Um so this the study was based on the originally proposed 147 new homes. Traffic counts were taken on January 27 at this proposed subdivision entrance during morning and afternoon. [0:29:46, 0:29:55]: Afternoon peak hours. Intersection analysis were made, two intersections at Brandon Road and North Salem Drive, and Brandon Road and Sprayberry Drive. [0:29:55, 0:30:02]: There were some adjustment factors used to account for the um coronavirus pandemic and school not being open. [0:30:03, 0:30:23]: And uh consideration was made of county and state requirements, planned transportation improvements of the city and travel pattern changes in the foreseeable future due to the pandemic. Uh there was a uh noted that um funding, there was funding already approved for widening of US Highway um 23 or highway four. [0:30:23, 0:30:25]: forty two in the area. [0:30:26, 0:30:37]: Uh let's see the key findings. Existing traffic operation vicinity, the term excellent was used, uh service levels A. [0:30:37, 0:30:39]: For the I A [0:30:39, 0:30:44]: for Brandon Road and A and B for the intersection turning movements. [0:30:45, 0:30:46]: Із вот аса. [0:30:46, 0:30:52]: Traffic volume growth vicinity has been minimal in recent years. This is expected to continue. [0:30:52, 0:31:12]: Um again now this is based on 147 units in the subdivision. It would generate 109 new morning peak hour trips, 147 afternoon peak hour trips, and 1482 total daily trips. Only minor traffic increases and intersection delays are expected due to the subdivision. [0:31:12, 0:31:27]: Um now Henry County and Georgia TOT would require that acceleration decelerations lay deceleration lanes be installed at the entrance. And of course, the site plan does show that those uh would be provided provided. [0:31:28, 0:31:28]: Um [0:31:28, 0:31:36]: The study said that no other traffic improvements are needed now or in the near future after the subdivision is built, if the subdivision is built. [0:31:38, 0:31:39]: Uh let's see. [0:31:39, 0:31:45]: All right, so now we come to our staff analysis, suitability of proposed subdivision. [0:31:45, 0:31:59]: Uh it's unlikely property would develop into additional rural residential or agricultural uses due to its location. A subdivision would be a reasonable use of the property due to proximity of several other subdivisions. [0:32:00, 0:32:02]: adjacent to and surrounding the property. [0:32:02, 0:32:07]: A subdivision would meet the density requirements of the property's future land use plan. [0:32:07, 0:32:11]: Now what about the suitability of the requested R three district? [0:32:12, 0:32:30]: Um the applicant will be able to develop a uh proposed subdivision on under R three if extend if extends a public sewer line to the subject property. And in fact there was a letter from Henry County uh water, uh which um water authority which uh requires that that extension of public sewer. [0:32:31, 0:32:40]: Your R three district would allow the subdivision to have lot sizes that are comparable to Clark Meadows and Moss Point subdivisions, which do have so sewer lines. [0:32:41, 0:32:52]: Okay, let's see. Suitability of site plan. It would have a s traditional design. No secondary access would be provided. This was initially considered, but um [0:32:52, 0:33:01]: due to safety hazards and the narrow curry characteristics of the road, that was eliminated. Um we did contact our um cities [0:33:01, 0:33:05]: A fire marshal who said he was fine with just one access into the property. [0:33:06, 0:33:11]: Existing pond would be preserved and used as a focal point for several amenities. [0:33:11, 0:33:25]: Applicant is proposing to build many larger lots and homes than are required in our three district. In fact, about half of the lots would have more than the minimum required required size of 12,000 square feet. [0:33:25, 0:33:31]: And eleven lots uh fronting Brand Road would have at least fifteen thousand square feet to mirror. [0:33:31, 0:33:35]: what the Clark Meadows Cell Division has across the street. [0:33:35, 0:33:42]: All of the homes would meet the minimum requirement of two thousand square feet, making them almost double the size of the R three district requirement of [0:33:42, 0:33:44]: thousand fifty square feet. [0:33:44, 0:33:54]: Impacts on adjacent properties, a fence should be installed along the northern side of the property as a protection against the adjacent rural residential and agriculture uses. [0:33:56, 0:34:16]: Impacts on public schools. So the applicant obtained a letter from Henry County Schools McDonald District Office on October 5, 2020. And it stated that uh projections for additional classroom space would be would be based on two new students per resident. This was an average. [0:34:16, 0:34:18]: And twenty five students per classroom. [0:34:18, 0:34:25]: So um uh if for the proposed 139 homes, eleven new classrooms would be needed. [0:34:25, 0:34:37]: to serve an estimated 278 new students. However, the cost of the classrooms would likely be offset by the additional school taxes that the subdivision residents would be required to pay. [0:34:38, 0:34:49]: Impacts on adjacent streets. Um again the traffic study projected excellent operations in the vicinity. Um and that turn turn lanes of course are required. [0:34:49, 0:34:55]: And uh sidewalks sh side sidewalks should be installed on at least one side of each internal street. [0:34:56, 0:35:02]: Um utilities again, the uh w water would be sufficient, but a sewer line extension is required. [0:35:04, 0:35:17]: Okay. So um staff recommendations. Um planning and zoning staff recommends approval of requests that are three district subject to the following uh conditions. Do you want me to read all these, Mr. Abdullah? [0:35:18, 0:35:18]: Um [0:35:19, 0:35:22]: So number one regarding the site plan. [0:35:22, 0:35:28]: Subdivision shall be developed in accordance with the submitted revised site plan received by City of Stockbridge. [0:35:28, 0:35:33]: Department of Community Development entitled Conceptual Site Plan Slash Brandon Road Track. [0:35:34, 0:35:46]: comprising sheet number one point one, which was prepared by Morebast Consulting on December fourth, twenty twenty, which uh comprises the second revision on February 17th. [0:35:47, 0:35:53]: twenty twenty one after the first res revision was repaired on January fifteenth, twenty twenty one. [0:35:53, 0:35:58]: Said plan is conceptual only and must meet or exceed the requirements of the zoning resolution. [0:35:59, 0:36:01]: And these conditions prior to the approval of a land. [0:36:02, 0:36:03]: A disturbance permit. [0:36:04, 0:36:09]: In the event that the recommended conditions of zoning cause the approved site plan to be substantially different. [0:36:10, 0:36:13]: The applicant shall be required to complete the concept review procedure. [0:36:14, 0:36:16]: prior to application for a land disturbance permit. [0:36:17, 0:36:19]: Unless otherwise noted herein [0:36:20, 0:36:25]: Compliance with all conditions shall be in place prior to the issuance of the first certificate of occupancy. [0:36:26, 0:36:39]: So uh number two, second condition, uh number two regarding the subdivision design, a the developer shall construct an off-site sanitary sewer line extension to the property at the developer's expense. [0:36:39, 0:36:42]: In cooperation with the Hindu County Water and Suit Authority. [0:36:42, 0:36:47]: This may require that the developer acquire any needed easements, also at the developer's expense. [0:36:48, 0:36:53]: B the subdivision entrance from Brandon Road Road shall be located south of Spray Brake Drive. [0:36:54, 0:37:02]: It shall be boulevard style with monument signage located outside of the public right away. Such signage shall incorporate a water feature in its design. [0:37:02, 0:37:13]: C, the developer shall construct acceleration and deceleration lanes and sidewalks at the entrance to the subdivision in compliance with Henry County and Georgia DOT specifications. [0:37:15, 0:37:21]: Next slide D, the developer shall comply with all requirements of the city's subdivision ordinance. [0:37:21, 0:37:26]: E a maximum of one hundred thirty nine lots and a hundred thirty nine single family detached homes. [0:37:27, 0:37:28]: shall be constructed on the property. [0:37:29, 0:37:34]: F all lots that are located adjacent to Brandon Road shall have at least fifteen thousand square feet. [0:37:35, 0:37:41]: G, a homeowners association shall be established or a property management company shall be secured. [0:37:41, 0:37:44]: For the purpose of maintaining all common areas of the site. [0:37:45, 0:37:49]: So uh the third condition regarding landscape design [0:37:49, 0:37:53]: A a fence which is wooden or vinyl coated chain link. [0:37:53, 0:37:57]: shall be constructed along the northern boundary of the property. [0:37:57, 0:38:02]: B a minimum of twenty percent of the site shall be preserved as open space. [0:38:02, 0:38:07]: The existing floodplain area, pond, and other open space areas shall be preserved. [0:38:07, 0:38:12]: And they shall include walking paths that are constructed of pervious materials. [0:38:12, 0:38:22]: C, the subdivision shall contain both a community center amenity area near the center of the site and a pond amenity center which encompasses the existing pond. [0:38:23, 0:38:38]: D, the proposed community center amenity area shall include a minimum of the filing amenities, a two thousand square foot swimming pool with a shade structure, a pavilion, an open lawn, a walking trail, a playground, and a fire pit fire pit. [0:38:38, 0:38:41]: Plus a parking lot with forty seven parking spaces. [0:38:42, 0:38:51]: E. The proposed pond amenity area shall include a minimum of the following amenities, a walking trail, a pavilion, boche ball courts, [0:38:51, 0:38:56]: parentheses or a similar type of act active recre aggregational facility. [0:38:57, 0:39:02]: A fire pit and a central mail kiosk with a vehic vehicle pull off area. [0:39:03, 0:39:08]: Next slide F the proposed amenities shall be installed or constructed. [0:39:08, 0:39:10]: After fifty percent of the [0:39:11, 0:39:17]: Dwelling units have been constructed and before any land disturbance permits are issued for the development of additional lots. [0:39:17, 0:39:30]: G, the developer shall provide a minimum fifty-foot-wide buffer around the perimeter of the property boundary, with the exception of areas that are required for access or utility connections. [0:39:30, 0:39:33]: H the developer shall provide a landscaping plan. [0:39:33, 0:39:39]: Which shall comply with the requirements of the city city's landscaping buffers and tree protection ordinance. [0:39:40, 0:39:47]: I sidewalks that are at least four feet wide shall be installed along at least one side of each internal subdivision street. [0:39:48, 0:39:51]: J all disturbed areas of the residential lot shall be sodded. [0:39:52, 0:39:55]: Except for areas where landscaping is present or installed. [0:39:55, 0:40:03]: And and condition number four regarding architectural design: A, all homes shall have a two-car garage at a minimum. [0:40:04, 0:40:13]: All homes shall have a minimum of 2,000 square feet of heated space. C. All homes shall have brick exteriors on all four sides. [0:40:13, 0:40:22]: D, all homes shall have exteriors which further comply with the architectural standards of city ordinance number OR one eight hyphen four five two. [0:40:25, 0:40:40]: Okay, and condition number five regarding procedural matters. A the applicant or developer shall submit a subdivision application for review and approval by the Planning Commission after the rezoning of the property is approved. [0:40:41, 0:40:53]: B, an official subdivision plaque shall be approved by the city and recorded with the Henry County Superior Court before any land disturbance or billing permits may be issued by the city to develop the subdivision. [0:40:53, 0:40:54]: And see, he [0:40:54, 0:41:14]: In compliance with section 12.12.003A of the city's zoning code, expirate which is known as expiration of approvals, the zoning classification of the property may revert back to RA or to some other zoning classification after a period of 18 months. [0:41:14, 0:41:27]: If the mayor and city council chooses, if substantial progress has not been achieved in the construction of the subdivision whereby the first inspection is carried out. And that was my last slide. [0:41:32, 0:41:33]: Any questions? [0:41:39, 0:41:40]: This is Dave Planchon. [0:41:42, 0:41:47]: There are a couple of questions I have that I didn't see answered in here. The first one is regarding utilities. [0:41:48, 0:41:53]: Is it going to be an all electric subdivision or are they going to also bring in natural gas? [0:41:55, 0:42:00]: Also, are the utilities going to be underground or like power lines gonna be overhead? [0:42:01, 0:42:06]: I have not heard about that. Maybe the applicant or Miss Bell can answer that. [0:42:09, 0:42:29]: Good evening, Michelle Battle with Battle Law, One West Court Square, Decatur, Georgia, 30030. To my knowledge, the um utilities will be um underground. Um, if that is uh different, um Steve Moore um is on the line and can correct me on that. Um with regards to I think you're you're [0:42:29, 0:42:36]: Your first question was the utilities being underground. And I I must confess I don't remember the second one. [0:42:37, 0:42:41]: If it will be an all electric community or electric and natural gas. [0:42:41, 0:42:42]: Um [0:42:43, 0:42:57]: I will have to add let Steve answer that. I was gonna assume that it would be um electric, but um Steve Michelle, Michelle, this is Jane Strickland, yeah. It's uh all utilities will be underground and it it will be in all electric uh development. [0:42:58, 0:42:59]: Right. Thank you, Jane. [0:42:59, 0:43:04]: Yes, ma'am. Okay. The next question I have is regarding the pond. [0:43:05, 0:43:12]: Um re um and how the water is fed into the pond and what is used, what's the method of retaining the water in the pond? [0:43:15, 0:43:18]: Um my name is Steve Moore with Moor Bass Consulting. Uh [0:43:19, 0:43:26]: The pond right now is uh based on the topography and our review is spring fed currently. [0:43:26, 0:43:28]: Um so we would [0:43:28, 0:43:48]: Basically, our plan is to not touch the pond with any construction other than what's associated with the amenity. We've like the dock that was shown on the exhibit that Ms. Logan showed. Um, but short of that, we don't plan on any development around the lake and we'll apply all appropriate road control measures to protect the lake to [0:43:48, 0:43:58]: keep it clean during construction and after construction. But the plan is to leave the lake in its natural state, both in the way it receives water and releases water. [0:43:59, 0:44:19]: And we're not going to add water to it. Did you say it was spring fed? It based on the topography, that's what it appears. There's not a live stream that feeds because if it if it's flow fed um off of the surrounding elevated land, changing the the land with uh you know asphalt driveway pavement is going to change the flow into it. I just [0:44:19, 0:44:28]: Just don't want it to flood I E dry up because the the supply goes away. Understood. No, uh we would there there is uh [0:44:29, 0:44:40]: There uh we'll have all of our stormwater, any stormwater that's generated from our development will be collected in the streets, in a piping system and moved away from that lake to another to another uh area. [0:44:40, 0:44:40]: Okay. [0:44:42, 0:44:43]: Very good. [0:44:44, 0:44:46]: Uh, I have a question on your traffic study. [0:44:47, 0:44:47]: Um [0:44:48, 0:44:48]: Uh [0:44:48, 0:44:58]: We'd be happy to answer any questions. I did have a presentation or at least some statements I wanted to make, but are we doing just answering questions now and then I'll do my presentation later? [0:44:58, 0:45:00]: I just want to make sure I'm understanding. [0:45:00, 0:45:01]: How we're gonna proceed. [0:45:02, 0:45:02]: Mm. [0:45:03, 0:45:04]: That would be up to the chairman. [0:45:07, 0:45:07]: Okay. [0:45:07, 0:45:07]: Go ahead. [0:45:09, 0:45:13]: Sorry. Uh the the traffic study, uh the guy was supposed to be standing by for that. [0:45:14, 0:45:18]: I I would like for him to talk about the traffic study. [0:45:19, 0:45:19]: And [0:45:20, 0:45:24]: What did encompass and what actually did he do for a traffic study? [0:45:24, 0:45:26]: And how many days? [0:45:26, 0:45:27]: At least study for that. [0:45:31, 0:45:31]: Can you hear me? [0:45:32, 0:45:34]: This is Mark Akampora. Yeah, I can hear you. [0:45:35, 0:45:38]: Okay. Yes, I'm the traffic engineer who did the traffic study. [0:45:39, 0:45:40]: Um [0:45:40, 0:45:44]: This the procedure I followed is a pretty standard procedure. [0:45:44, 0:45:51]: Um to do traffic impact studies just to give you a little bit of background of me f first of all. I've been practicing traffic engineering. [0:45:51, 0:46:09]: in Georgia for a little over thirty years. I've done about 1,700 of these type of traffic studies in Georgia. I am a professional engineer in the state of Georgia and this is what my business is. I've been in business on my own uh for a little over nineteen years. [0:46:09, 0:46:12]: Um and I'm located in midtown Atlanta, Georgia. [0:46:13, 0:46:16]: The the traffic study is done according to um [0:46:17, 0:46:22]: traffic engineering standards, both internationally and nationally accepted standards and also those accepted [0:46:23, 0:46:36]: uh by Georgia DOT and by Henry County. I didn't find any separate or different City of Stockbridge traffic engineering study requirements that were different than Henry County. So I followed those standards. [0:46:36, 0:46:37]: Um [0:46:37, 0:46:39]: The traffic study included doing [0:46:39, 0:46:42]: intersection turning movement counts. [0:46:42, 0:46:45]: during the morning and evening peak time periods. [0:46:45, 0:46:50]: The counts in the morning were done from seven o'clock in the morning till nine o'clock in the morning. [0:46:51, 0:46:56]: in the aft or in the evening they were done from four o'clock PM to six o'clock PM. [0:46:56, 0:47:00]: Um and then from those two hour count p each [0:47:00, 0:47:02]: count two hour count period. [0:47:02, 0:47:06]: I compiled the four highest fifteen minute intervals. [0:47:06, 0:47:08]: in each time period to identify [0:47:08, 0:47:12]: the peak hour, which is the single highest out one hour. [0:47:12, 0:47:15]: In the morning in the single highest one hour. [0:47:15, 0:47:17]: in the evening period. [0:47:17, 0:47:21]: I also did a twenty four hour bi directional traffic count. [0:47:21, 0:47:23]: On Brandon Road. [0:47:23, 0:47:25]: There is a Georgia D O T [0:47:25, 0:47:29]: Um traffic count station on Brandon Road, not far from here. [0:47:29, 0:47:31]: Uh I I [0:47:31, 0:47:35]: Obtain the Georgia DOT historic ta traffic count data. [0:47:35, 0:47:37]: At that traffic count station. [0:47:38, 0:47:43]: from twenty fifteen through twenty nineteen, which is the last year that that data's available. [0:47:44, 0:47:47]: All of the DOT traffic count data obviously then is [0:47:47, 0:47:49]: pre pandemic. [0:47:49, 0:47:50]: I compared [0:47:50, 0:47:54]: the twenty four hour count that I did for this study [0:47:54, 0:47:57]: With the twenty nineteen traffic count. [0:47:57, 0:48:01]: uh Georgia DOT traffic count and the counts before that. [0:48:01, 0:48:03]: And comparing the two. [0:48:03, 0:48:05]: I identified [0:48:05, 0:48:09]: And applied a twenty five percent adjustment increase. [0:48:09, 0:48:12]: adjustment to the tra turning movement traffic counts. [0:48:12, 0:48:18]: that I had counted for the study, which would offset any drop in traffic volumes. [0:48:18, 0:48:19]: that was seen [0:48:20, 0:48:24]: Um between the traffic counts and the historic Georgia DOT traffic counts. [0:48:25, 0:48:26]: I took those counts. [0:48:27, 0:48:30]: Um and I ran an operational analysis. [0:48:30, 0:48:38]: I I and again I could go into as much detail as you want. I'll just kind of keep it as an overview, but I'll get as technical as you'd like me to. [0:48:38, 0:48:41]: I did an operational analysis using synchro software. [0:48:42, 0:48:46]: the high r high rate capacity manual methodology, which are the standard procedures. [0:48:47, 0:48:50]: that are recognized by Georgia D O T and Henry County. [0:48:51, 0:48:54]: Um again that I did not identify any separate or different [0:48:55, 0:48:57]: standards to be used by the city of Stockbridge. [0:48:57, 0:48:59]: The analysis at [0:48:59, 0:49:05]: the intersections. I y I I evaluated Brandon Road at North Salem and at Sprayberry. [0:49:06, 0:49:10]: and the levels of service, the intersection. Each intersection gets a level of service. [0:49:11, 0:49:15]: for each approach or controlled movement and the overall intersection. [0:49:15, 0:49:20]: In the morning peak hour, all of the levels of service were level of service A. [0:49:20, 0:49:26]: And a level of service to to take a step back as like a letter grade comparable to the letter grades in school. [0:49:26, 0:49:34]: So a level of service A is excellent, but very low delay. And then there's a B, C, D, E, and F. And typically E and F. [0:49:35, 0:49:38]: are considered unacceptable A, B, C, and D. [0:49:38, 0:49:40]: are considered in the acceptable range. [0:49:41, 0:49:42]: At these intersections. [0:49:42, 0:49:46]: All of the levels of service were level of service A in the morning. [0:49:47, 0:49:49]: And in the afternoon it was a mix of A's and B's. [0:49:50, 0:49:52]: So the operations were considered. [0:49:52, 0:49:53]: Exac excellent. [0:49:54, 0:49:54]: Um [0:49:55, 0:50:04]: And then I I then added the traffic that's generated by that will be generated by this project. And I did use the one hundred and forty seven homes. [0:50:04, 0:50:05]: Um [0:50:06, 0:50:10]: And I in order to determine how much traffic the project will generate, I used [0:50:11, 0:50:15]: standard Institute of Transportation Engineers trip generation. [0:50:15, 0:50:21]: Um those are rates and and equations that are developed by counting comparable subdivisions. [0:50:21, 0:50:23]: Throughout the United States. [0:50:23, 0:50:27]: I took that data, I applied it to the hundred and forty seven. [0:50:27, 0:50:30]: originally proposed homes which [0:50:30, 0:50:32]: From that I identified [0:50:32, 0:50:33]: The morning highest [0:50:34, 0:50:36]: Entering and exiting traffic volumes. [0:50:36, 0:50:40]: the after the evening highest entering exiting traffic volumes. [0:50:40, 0:50:43]: and the twenty four hour entering entering and exiting traffic vibe. [0:50:44, 0:50:45]: I assign those trips. [0:50:46, 0:50:48]: to the project access. [0:50:48, 0:50:50]: And to [0:50:50, 0:50:52]: The um the two counted intersections. [0:50:53, 0:50:53]: Um [0:50:54, 0:50:57]: add I added those then to the original count. [0:50:57, 0:50:59]: And then re ran the analysis. [0:51:00, 0:51:03]: And the analysis showed and and let me just interject one other piece. [0:51:03, 0:51:07]: Typically there's also a no build analysis. [0:51:07, 0:51:11]: What I would typically do is apply a growth factor. [0:51:11, 0:51:13]: to the counted volumes. [0:51:13, 0:51:19]: for certain years, typically for a subdivision like this, I would extrapolate out about five years into the future. [0:51:19, 0:51:23]: And then and then do an analysis without the subdivision. [0:51:23, 0:51:25]: And then add the subdivision trips. [0:51:25, 0:51:27]: In this particular case. [0:51:27, 0:51:31]: In my traffic study I identified that the historic [0:51:31, 0:51:41]: growth trend on Brandon Road was between twenty fifteen and twenty nineteen was negative six point eight percent. And that's all pre-pandemic. That is not [0:51:42, 0:51:45]: including the adjustment factor that I applied for the pandemic. [0:51:46, 0:51:48]: So there was a negative six point eight percent. [0:51:48, 0:51:52]: uh decreasing volume and the last year of growth [0:51:52, 0:51:58]: from the Georgia DOT counts from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen was a flat zero point zero percent. [0:51:58, 0:52:09]: And so considering that the historic trend was negative and the last year was zero, I did not apply a background growth factor to count for other growth and development in the area. [0:52:09, 0:52:11]: Um based on that historic trend. [0:52:12, 0:52:12]: Um [0:52:13, 0:52:21]: And I will add this, there is a lot of ample remaining capacity on these roads. So even if there are other small projects that are being developed. [0:52:21, 0:52:22]: in the area. [0:52:23, 0:52:24]: D these roads are [0:52:25, 0:52:28]: uh currently operating very well under capacity. [0:52:29, 0:52:30]: So in any case, I [0:52:31, 0:52:34]: Um added the project's traffic to the counted intersections. [0:52:34, 0:52:36]: And also to the [0:52:36, 0:52:37]: Um [0:52:37, 0:52:39]: Entrance to the project. [0:52:39, 0:52:43]: And then I re ran that operational analysis. [0:52:43, 0:52:46]: And as with the existing condition. [0:52:46, 0:52:59]: Um all of the levels of steps service were excellent. They were all there remained all level of service A's in the morning and in the afternoon or evening there were all a mix of levels of service A and level of service B. [0:52:59, 0:53:02]: I did one other additional analysis. [0:53:03, 0:53:04]: And that is to determine the [0:53:05, 0:53:09]: Requirements for left and right turn lanes on Brandon Road. [0:53:09, 0:53:11]: to serve the project access. [0:53:11, 0:53:22]: Henry County Code. I I again I did not see a specific section. I did research the City of Stockbridge ordinances. Um the Sto Stockbridge ordinances referred to [0:53:22, 0:53:27]: Um Georgia DOT and Henry County regulations as best as I could find. [0:53:27, 0:53:30]: Therefore I use the Henry County [0:53:30, 0:53:33]: Unified land development code. [0:53:33, 0:53:35]: То ран май аналізис. [0:53:35, 0:53:43]: The unit the Henry County Code requires for a subdivision given these circumstances, type of road, type of project, size of project. [0:53:43, 0:53:46]: There the the county code requires [0:53:46, 0:53:51]: A northbound deceleration lane on Brandon Road. [0:53:51, 0:53:58]: The Henry County Code then requ refers to the Georgia DOT regulations for driveway and encroachment control. [0:53:58, 0:54:01]: to identify if left turn lanes are required. [0:54:01, 0:54:06]: So I then use the Georgia DOT left turn lane standards as set forth. [0:54:07, 0:54:09]: And their regulations for drive land control. [0:54:09, 0:54:21]: Encroachment control, which we typically refer to as the driveway manual, latest version, um revision five point zero. I did that analysis and identified that a southbound left turn lane. [0:54:21, 0:54:25]: was or is will be required for this project. [0:54:25, 0:54:29]: Um and therefore my traffic study recommended based on that analysis. [0:54:29, 0:54:32]: that a northbound right turn lane and a southbound left turn lane. [0:54:33, 0:54:36]: be added on Brandon Road to serve the project. [0:54:36, 0:54:38]: I also recommend that the project have [0:54:38, 0:54:44]: one outbound lane and one inbound lane and that the outbound lane beside street stops are controlled. [0:54:45, 0:54:51]: Um, and that's the extent of my recommendations. I'd be happy to answer any specific technical questions besides that. [0:54:52, 0:54:56]: I ha I have a a couple of questions and I'm gonna keep it plain. [0:54:56, 0:54:58]: And simple. Now we both are engineers. I'm a [0:54:59, 0:55:02]: Licensed third class power engineer for the state of Georgia. [0:55:03, 0:55:05]: Uh my expertise is not in your field. [0:55:06, 0:55:08]: Minds is in facility. [0:55:09, 0:55:14]: And I I listen to everything you say, but but I wanna keep it plain where other people can understand. [0:55:15, 0:55:18]: what you're saying and I'm gonna put these two questions to you. [0:55:19, 0:55:22]: How many days did you do the study? That's number one. [0:55:24, 0:55:26]: Excuse me. And did you do any studies? [0:55:27, 0:55:29]: On the weekends and Fridays. [0:55:31, 0:55:36]: Um, so to answer the second question first, no. I did not do weekends or Fridays. [0:55:36, 0:55:41]: Standards for traffic impact studies are to do weekdays. [0:55:41, 0:55:56]: And we typically count on a Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday. I did the counts on one day and then like I said, I did the twenty-four hour count for twenty-four hour period and I compared those with the Georgia DOT traffic counts. [0:55:56, 0:55:58]: That were also on Brandon Road. [0:55:58, 0:56:12]: So I could see how my counts compared to those typical conditions in the Georgia DOT counts. And I did apply an adjustment factor, an increase of twenty-five percent from the counts to adjust my counts. [0:56:12, 0:56:15]: to the Georgia DOT counts, which would [0:56:15, 0:56:16]: somewhat offset. [0:56:17, 0:56:26]: any pandemic or anything like that. We did we typically don't do a Friday or weekend counts because typically the AM and PM weekdays [0:56:26, 0:56:29]: are the time periods of the highest impact. [0:56:29, 0:56:31]: We will do different time periods. [0:56:31, 0:56:40]: For different types of development. For example, if I'm doing a shopping center, I'll I'll typically do a Saturday afternoon peak. If I'm doing a church, [0:56:40, 0:56:48]: I'll do a Sunday morning. So it depends on the type of development, but for residential subdivisions, the time that they generate and have the highest impact. [0:56:49, 0:56:51]: typically consistent with the time of the roads. [0:56:52, 0:56:59]: peaking, which is typically that seven to nine o'clock in the morning on a weekday and four o'clock to six o'clock on a weekday. [0:56:59, 0:57:03]: Did we did we compensate for the school being out? [0:57:05, 0:57:09]: traveling that road. Well and and the traffic on Friday is totally different. [0:57:10, 0:57:12]: From the weekday traffic. [0:57:12, 0:57:13]: Are you aware of that? [0:57:14, 0:57:20]: Well th yes. That fr traffic generally on Friday afternoons is [0:57:20, 0:57:27]: a little bit different. Um and depending on the location, that sometimes is the single worst time of day. [0:57:27, 0:57:31]: Uh I'm not sure if that's true on necessarily on Brandon Road. Um [0:57:32, 0:57:37]: And if it is, I could uh you know, if there's some unusual thing that's happening on Brandon Road on a [0:57:38, 0:57:43]: on a Friday or some other time period, I'd be happy to listen to what that might be. But [0:57:43, 0:57:46]: Like I said, typically the morning. [0:57:46, 0:57:54]: Two hours captured from seven to nine captures the worst time period of a morning a weekday morning and and [0:57:55, 0:57:57]: The other thing is you don't necessarily wanna [0:57:58, 0:58:03]: Analyze and design the absolute worst to give a general non technical answer, but [0:58:03, 0:58:18]: You d we don't design shopping mall parking lots for and pandemic changed all this anyway, but for the day after Thanksgiving, because that would mean that three hundred and sixty days of the year, there'd be a lot of extra asphalt that would just remain empty. [0:58:19, 0:58:19]: And so [0:58:20, 0:58:23]: The standard is not to look at the absolute worst. [0:58:23, 0:58:24]: In this case. [0:58:25, 0:58:28]: We generally are capturing the absolute worst. [0:58:28, 0:58:32]: Now if there's an atypical condition on a Friday that I'm unaware of. [0:58:32, 0:58:36]: I'd be happy to hear that and and address that if that's appropriate. [0:58:36, 0:58:44]: But typically and and from my understanding of of how here, those morning and a evening, weekday time periods. [0:58:44, 0:58:45]: should capture [0:58:45, 0:58:47]: And and let me and let me add one other thing. [0:58:47, 0:58:51]: We're operating here at level of service A and level of service B. [0:58:52, 0:58:52]: Which is [0:58:53, 0:58:55]: B it's excellent. [0:58:55, 0:58:56]: Yeah, so [0:58:56, 0:59:00]: E even honestly, and I'm gonna throw out a number that just [0:59:00, 0:59:01]: If if the traffic [0:59:01, 0:59:06]: doubled out there, I still think you'd be an acceptable traffic operations. [0:59:06, 0:59:08]: So I would be very surprised. [0:59:08, 0:59:14]: Mm, maybe you'll surprise me if traffic volumes on other time periods were more [0:59:14, 0:59:17]: than double the peak time periods that I counted. [0:59:18, 0:59:18]: But [0:59:18, 0:59:21]: You you really have enough capacity to double those volumes. [0:59:22, 0:59:27]: [3567.3, 3572.4]: an additional new lane being added on Brandon Road at the access. [0:59:32, 0:59:36]: to serve the left turning and right turning traffic turning into the project. [0:59:37, 0:59:42]: Now I understand some of the basics of what you're talking about, but what you're gonna have to do is keep it [0:59:42, 0:59:44]: On a level that to communicate. [0:59:44, 0:59:47]: The community can understand what you're talking about. [0:59:48, 0:59:51]: And the problem I'm gonna say again on Friday. [0:59:52, 0:59:54]: in the weekends it's questionable. [0:59:54, 0:59:56]: But I would like for the community [0:59:57, 0:59:59]: To let them tell you. [0:59:59, 1:00:01]: what the traffic is like. [1:00:01, 1:00:03]: I don't live out there. I've been out there. [1:00:04, 1:00:05]: And I know [1:00:05, 1:00:07]: The traffic is terrible. [1:00:07, 1:00:09]: on Fridays in the weekend. [1:00:10, 1:00:14]: So when you talking about getting a accurate account of what's going on. [1:00:15, 1:00:17]: I wouldn't agree with you because [1:00:18, 1:00:22]: If I was living over there and I'm trying to get to my house on Fridays and and the weekends. [1:00:24, 1:00:26]: That's a whole different story from [1:00:26, 1:00:30]: The times and the dates that you expressing to me. [1:00:30, 1:00:32]: What you do as far as [1:00:32, 1:00:34]: Traffic evaluation. [1:00:35, 1:00:45]: Can I ask you this? Is the traffic bad on Friday on Brandon Road? Or are you just talking about in general on [1:00:45, 1:00:51]: On the busy thoroughly. The traffic is bad. Everybody's trying to get home. It's bumper to bumper. [1:00:51, 1:00:54]: Uh, that's why I asked you those questions, because [1:00:55, 1:01:00]: you're dealing with a uh area that's nice at the time that you're doing your evaluation. [1:01:01, 1:01:03]: But I would like for you to hear from the community. [1:01:04, 1:01:07]: In terms of what I'm saying to you right now. [1:01:07, 1:01:11]: they may be expressing the same concern as what I'm speaking about. [1:01:13, 1:01:20]: Sure. Well I I would I welcome any feedback on that. And if there's if there's some other condition or time period. [1:01:20, 1:01:24]: Where there is a problem, remember, my study is on Brandon Road, so [1:01:25, 1:01:37]: I understand that roads might get congested, you know, you know, down near the interchanges at I seventy five or something like that. But I if the question is if is there's an a problem [1:01:37, 1:01:50]: at another time period on Brandon Road that I might be missing, some other period of congestion or some unusual activity. Typically I look to see what's around there that might cause some other type of [1:01:50, 1:01:51]: problem that [1:01:52, 1:01:56]: should be addressed, but I I welcome any feedback from the neighborhood. [1:01:56, 1:01:59]: Um if if there's some other time period that [1:02:00, 1:02:01]: should be should be looked at. [1:02:02, 1:02:05]: I think they'll be on they'll be on it uh on with us. [1:02:06, 1:02:08]: So I think that's the time to hear from them. [1:02:09, 1:02:11]: Well okay. Well well first of all [1:02:11, 1:02:18]: Let's let's let's uh I believe Miss Logan has uh already presented what the staff uh opinion is. [1:02:19, 1:02:24]: And we might as well open it up to uh the community to the community to see hear what they had to say. [1:02:25, 1:02:28]: uh with reference to this uh zoning matter. [1:02:30, 1:02:43]: Uh Mr. Abdullah, is it will the applicant be able to make their statement? Because we haven't been able to make our our presentation. It's been in and out. So why don't we do this? Let's stop right here, let the applicant make their presentation and then we'll pick up with the community. [1:02:43, 1:02:46]: Thank you. I appreciate that. All right, go ahead. [1:02:46, 1:03:06]: Yes. Again, Michelle Battle with Battle Law, One West Court Square, Decatur, Georgia, 30030. At the last meeting that we had, there were quite a few people with a quite a few issues and challenges that we had with regards to this project. And we took those issues very seriously. We went back and had two [1:03:06, 1:03:26]: community meetings um in order uh to um work towards addressing the issues that have been raised. Um what you saw from the revisions to the site plan, and I would um I I wanna ask Linda right now, well actually I will. Linda, if you wouldn't mind putting your PowerPoint back up, there are a couple of slides that I would like to emphasize. [1:03:26, 1:03:46]: With regards to the things that we modified since the last we spoke to you all, we went back, we revisited the site plan. There were some issues with regards to amenity areas. We also addressed issues with regards to product type. [1:03:46, 1:04:06]: And we also addressed the issues with regards to traffic. With regards to the number of units, we went from 147 units to 139 lots. And we did that in part to allow us to expand the amenity package for the project, but also [1:04:06, 1:04:26]: Also, we wanted to make it clear that we were willing to make compromise with regards to this development. We also wanted to make sure that we were in line with the two communities that are within the city limits of Stockbridge that have frontage on Brandon. [1:04:26, 1:04:46]: And Road, which would be Moss Point, and the Clark Meadows community. Clark Meadows is the closest in alignment with what we are proposing for development on this site. And we thought that it was imperative that we look and at the [1:04:46, 1:05:06]: The development of the Clark Meadows community, particularly in light of the fact that 14 of those homes were developed at an R2 standard, but the balance of the 142 homes located within that community were developed under R three standards, although [1:05:06, 1:05:26]: The entirety of the project at that time was zoned plan development, which is a discontinued land use designation or zoning designation in the city. So in fact, the majority of the Clark Meadows community is actually zoned R3. [1:05:26, 1:05:41]: When we looked at and did the comparison to uh the Clark Metals project, there were some um differences that we wanted to point out. And Linda, can you please put your if if you can't put your screen back up, I can at least put I I have it up right now. Um [1:05:43, 1:05:44]: Let me see. [1:05:44, 1:05:50]: Arrow at the bottom of the page. Uh put put your mouse in. I didn't know that it got disconnected. Can you see that now? [1:05:51, 1:05:52]: Um it's coming up. [1:05:53, 1:05:58]: Okay. Um so if we can go to [1:05:59, 1:06:02]: your slide ten. Let's start there. [1:06:02, 1:06:05]: Slide ten. Okay, let's go back up here. [1:06:10, 1:06:11]: This one. [1:06:12, 1:06:12]: Dan. [1:06:13, 1:06:14]: That's ten. [1:06:14, 1:06:21]: It's coming, I guess. Just click on it one more time. There you go. There you go, right there. Ten. Uh all right. Um [1:06:22, 1:06:25]: Gotcha. Linda, right at the top of your screen it says slideshow. [1:06:27, 1:06:31]: Um if you see that at the top there, can you go to s where it says slideshow? [1:06:31, 1:06:32]: Oh [1:06:33, 1:06:35]: I don't see that. In the banner. [1:06:35, 1:06:36]: The banner at the top. [1:06:37, 1:06:40]: I see the banner at the top, but it doesn't say slideshow. [1:06:41, 1:06:55]: Um okay, I'll I'll live with what we've got. It's it's you can yeah, you can enlarge it so that it would be larger if you click on if you click on slideshow right after out on beneath the brown banner at the top. [1:06:56, 1:06:58]: It says home. [1:06:58, 1:07:01]: Insert design transitions and then slideshow. [1:07:01, 1:07:06]: No, I think Miss Battle wants to uh enlarge that photo for clarity's sake. [1:07:06, 1:07:08]: I understand, but I I don't see any of those [1:07:09, 1:07:10]: On your actual power point. [1:07:11, 1:07:13]: On the PowerPoint, okay. [1:07:13, 1:07:15]: Up top. Very top. [1:07:15, 1:07:16]: Oh, okay on the [1:07:16, 1:07:17]: Orange bar. [1:07:18, 1:07:19]: Just below the orange bar. [1:07:20, 1:07:23]: Right. There's a a you can click on it where it says slideshow. [1:07:27, 1:07:30]: Hmm. Oh, okay. All right here. [1:07:31, 1:07:36]: Okay. Click on slideshow. And from the beginning. From beginning. [1:07:36, 1:07:41]: From beginning. And and you actually hit where it says from current slide. Yeah. From current slide. [1:07:42, 1:07:42]: Right. [1:07:42, 1:07:44]: From crunch. Oops. Yeah, the second one. [1:07:45, 1:07:46]: Wait, it went on. [1:07:46, 1:07:47]: I don't know what happened. [1:07:48, 1:07:49]: You're still there. [1:07:49, 1:08:04]: Yeah, but this is too big. Okay. Okay. Nope. That's fine. Just keep just keep going. Just slide down to the next slide. There's a little thing at the bottom where you can click and it'll move it to the next slide. Oh, I'm just no, I'm just scrolling my map. There you there you go. Keep scrolling. All right. Is this the one you want? [1:08:05, 1:08:09]: Uh n next one. Keep going. The next one. Keep going. Keep going. [1:08:10, 1:08:11]: I'll tell you when to stop. Just keep going. [1:08:15, 1:08:18]: That one. There you go. Okay. Okay. [1:08:18, 1:08:19]: No, go back. [1:08:19, 1:08:20]: Mm-hmm. [1:08:21, 1:08:24]: What what what kind of slide are you looking for? [1:08:24, 1:08:35]: Yeah, I wanted the slide that showed the aerial with the wording on it, which was slide ten. You you've moved well past slide ten now. Yeah, this one right here. [1:08:36, 1:08:37]: This is slide ten. [1:08:38, 1:08:38]: Mm. [1:08:39, 1:08:47]: No, that's uh that one. That one right there is what I've seen. That's what I thought. Aerial photo aerial photo of surrounding subdivisions. [1:08:48, 1:09:08]: That's it. There you go. It it just popped on my screen late. Okay. So when we look at um the aerial, what you'll see here is the Clark Meadows subdivision um has a minimum lot width of 60 feet on its lots. The minimum lot area is 7,260 square feet. Um [1:09:08, 1:09:28]: The lot frontage, the ones that have frontage that are actually at the R2 designation are 15,000 square foot lots with a minimum of 75 foot wide. And you know what's interesting about Clark Meadows is that [1:09:28, 1:09:48]: That in comparison to what we are proposing, and I think that you know there's been uh clearly a desire by this community um to up the ante. It's not to simply re-umestablish what has already been done, but to actually move up a level. Um, we believe that we have done that. Um, we have duplicated some of the things that [1:09:48, 1:10:02]: they um have within their community, but we have also um in um improved in our opinion some of the things that they have in their community. And Linda, I I hate to ask you, but it may be easier. Would it be possible for me to just share my screen? [1:10:04, 1:10:06]: Would that be is that allowable? [1:10:06, 1:10:08]: You want to, certainly. [1:10:08, 1:10:09]: Okay. [1:10:12, 1:10:15]: 'Cause I wanna move to the screen where we had the comparison of the two. [1:10:16, 1:10:19]: And I've got that pulled up. Um Oh, your diagrams? [1:10:19, 1:10:24]: I got that. So if if everybody can see that, one of the things that we wanted to point out [1:10:24, 1:10:44]: um is the difference between the lots in the two communities. When we look at the lots that we are proposing, our minimum lot size is our minimum lot size is 12,000 square feet. We do have 15,000 square feet square foot units along Brandon. [1:10:44, 1:11:04]: Road, but we have increased and you can see the difference in the sizing of the lots. Our lots will all be 75 foot wide. All of our lots will be a minimum of 75 foot wide. And the majority of our lots are at least 100. In order to achieve that, it has to be a minimum of 75 foot wide. [1:11:04, 1:11:12]: And 160 feet deep. So that creates a 12,000 square foot lot. [1:11:13, 1:11:33]: Additionally, we have a 10-foot side yard setback on our lots. So there will actually be a 20-foot um space between the homes, between the buildable envelopes on the home. So there's actually 20 feet between the homes here. [1:11:33, 1:11:49]: based on a 10-foot side yard setback on each side. Additionally, we are holding to a 40-foot rear side, rear setback on the homes. When we then move over to Clark Meadows, you can see a drastic difference in our opinion. [1:11:50, 1:12:10]: In Clark Meadows, um, they have a 60-foot wide lot minimum, and I'm going to show you their plat, which also shows um how many of those homes um abide by that configuration. But they are basically 60 by 125 feet, and they actually obtained a variance at the time. [1:12:10, 1:12:30]: That this community was developed, that only provides for a 10-foot separation between the homes. So, in fact, their side yard setback is five feet on each side. That's why they have so little room that one of their residents who sent me an email talked about, you know, um [1:12:29, 1:12:49]: There's so little room between their communities. Well, that's because their side yard setback is only five feet on each side. So they've got 10 feet behind between their homes. We'll have 20 feet behind between our homes. Um, and then when you just look at the size of our lots, when we're just talking about the minimum lots, and remember, Linda indicated. [1:12:49, 1:12:56]: In her presentation, that over 50% of our lots are in that. [1:12:56, 1:13:16]: are larger than 14,000 square feet. And so you can see that um when we superimpose the Clark Meadow lots into our lots, our lots are significantly larger um in size um than the lots that you are seeing with um the Clark Meadow subdivision. And we actually went and pulled um [1:13:16, 1:13:36]: The approved plat for the Clark Meadows subdivision. And you can see here where it talks about the setbacks. Under R3, it says 10 feet between houses here. We can also look at the dimensional requirements for that community. And the gross [1:13:36, 1:13:56]: Density for Clark Meadows is 2.74 units per acre. 2.74 units per acre. Our gross density is under two units per acre. When we look at the overall density [1:13:56, 1:14:16]: And that was for the 142 lots at 51.76 acres, looking at the overall project here based on the information provided on the front page of their requirements. Their gross density for the R2 was at 1.6, but for the R3 portion, for the 120 [1:14:16, 1:14:36]: They're at three units per acre, which gave them a gross of 2.74 and a net density of 3.25 on their project. Should also be noted that they obtained a number of variances, which allowed them to reduce their lot width. [1:14:36, 1:14:56]: To 60 feet on the smaller lots. They stayed at 75 feet on the bigger lots. And then there were also variances obtained to their rear setbacks as well. So and then one final point, when we look at [1:14:56, 1:15:16]: At their house size requirements, their house sizes were minimum of 16,000 square feet, 18,000 square feet, a fourth of them, no less than 1900 square feet for a fourth of them, and then 2,000 square feet for a fourth of them. But when you look at their overall layout, you can see [1:15:16, 1:15:36]: See that all of the lots are basically 60 feet by 125 feet. And that's consistent throughout their community. Some of the lots may be slightly bigger, slightly smaller, but the mass majority of them are that 60 by 125 feet. So we believe that with [1:15:36, 1:15:56]: With the modifications that we've made to our site plan, we have clearly provided a lot that is larger in size, that has more width between the lots, more space between the lots. The market certainly drove what those houses would look like, even though they're [1:15:56, 1:16:16]: Their minimum lot requirements, sorry, house requirements, they exceeded. We believe that the market will also push what is demanded on this site as well. We agreed to four-sided brick homes, which was not in play when we first came to you all, but we have agreed to a four-sided brick home. [1:16:16, 1:16:36]: Additionally, we added two amenity areas. Clark Meadows has one. We now have two amenity areas, including a swimming pool that was added as one of the amenities, along with two fire pits. We also have the open field space and I don't know if [1:16:36, 1:16:56]: Linda, um, I won't ask you to go back to the site pan, but we had an open field space along with the walking trails, um a pavilion, a shade area for the area around the pool. We have the dock. So we have two rather significant um amenity areas that we have also included. We then also included additional landscape. [1:16:56, 1:17:16]: Along the front of the property, that landscaping will be maintained by the Homeowners Association. We have no problem placing a condition that that will be maintained by the Homeowners Association for the improvements along Brandon Road that were added. We also added sidewalks along. [1:17:16, 1:17:31]: the entire frontage um on Brandon Road. That was also a request that was made. And so we added those sidewalks along the front along Brandon Road. We initially had access off of North Salem. [1:17:31, 1:17:51]: Um even though that um portion is not in the city limits uh along North Salem Road, we did hear uh the cries of that um community to um not have that open. So um we removed that access point um which we had shown you on the last um set of plans. Um there were issues um [1:17:51, 1:18:11]: With the buffers. So we expanded the buffers from 30 feet around the perimeter to 50 feet around the perimeter, and we added a fence along the north side to protect those with larger home sizes on that side that expressed some concerns. We believe that, you know. [1:18:11, 1:18:12]: When you look at [1:18:13, 1:18:33]: this project. I know that change is not um often welcome. You know, uh people feel that you know the traffic is already um um uh difficult for them at times. Um we believe that the traffic study um indicates that there is room for growth and development along that corridor. Um we certainly [1:18:33, 1:18:53]: Hear what the comments are. We talked, and I think that the traffic engineer also indicated that even if we doubled the amount of traffic, we still would be performing at an acceptable level. That being said, to the extent that additional information may be gathered, I'm sure that we can work with that. [1:18:53, 1:18:54]: But meanwhile [1:18:55, 1:19:15]: What we do know is that we have made every provision to ensure that this project is comparable with the other subdivisions, both Clark Meadows and certainly Moss Point, to allow for a product that will be comparable if not above the levels [1:19:15, 1:19:35]: Of when you're looking at the lot sizes of the Clark Meadows community. We also would like to indicate that at the end of the day, we know that there are some who, no matter what we do, we will simply not be able to satisfy. They would prefer that everything stay in the RA standard. [1:19:34, 1:19:54]: Standard. We are bringing sewer to this property, so there is really no need to have the extended larger lots that you see in the surrounding area. There's a mixture, and there has to be a mixture of lots and unit sizes. The lots that are in the jurisdictional boundaries of Stockbridge. [1:19:54, 1:20:14]: We are consistent with. And so we would ask and respectfully request for a recommendation of approval on our application. We know that the price points on these homes will be higher than what we initially started at because we now have a four-sided brick project. So we are in that 300 and [1:20:14, 1:20:34]: um$50,000 range$325 to$350 with the homes as a starting price point. We know that we have room for people to ask for additional improvements to their home, to ask for larger sizes on their homes, to ask for additional amenity features that would go with their homes. [1:20:34, 1:20:45]: which will allow for um the upsell um with regards to the lots, which will also allow for higher price points. But we also had a um [1:20:45, 1:21:05]: An appraiser that was in in attendance at our meeting, at the last meeting, in order to answer questions with regards to price points in the area. We believe that we are in a reasonable price point based on what the market is bearing at this time. But we did by agreeing to the four-sided brick homes allow for that. [1:21:05, 1:21:25]: Price point to be pushed up. And for the community, we believe at the end of the day we have a fabulous community that we want to develop that is actually improved because of the comments that we receive and the modifications that we have made. So with that, we are here to answer any questions. [1:21:25, 1:21:37]: questions. We do have our engineer, Steve Moore, with Moore Bass here. Um you've already spoken with our um uh traffic engineer and um again we are here to answer any further questions that you may have. Thank you. [1:21:44, 1:21:54]: Well I think at at at this point we wanna open it up to public comment because I see that we have uh some members of the community that have joined us. [1:21:54, 1:22:07]: Mr. Mr. Abdullah, if I may, this is Randy Knighton. Yes. I just wanted to make one comment, sir, if if I could. Apparently my IT uh the IT folks told us that there was a problem there for a moment. [1:22:07, 1:22:13]: But I see people, I see about ten attendees on our call now. They're able to connect via [1:22:13, 1:22:15]: Zoom apparently for a moment [1:22:15, 1:22:19]: They were unable to connect through the main Zoom [1:22:19, 1:22:26]: link. We are streaming on Facebook Live and apparently a lot number of people are on there. But I do see a number of attendees now who have been able to connect. [1:22:27, 1:22:29]: Um, to the main Zoom feed. [1:22:29, 1:22:31]: I just wanted to make that announcement, sir. [1:22:31, 1:22:32]: That's fine, that's fine. I appreciate that. [1:22:34, 1:22:38]: So those persons who are in attendance who have a question from the community [1:22:38, 1:22:44]: Uh please provide us with your name, your address, and uh your comment. [1:22:45, 1:22:46]: No question. [1:22:51, 1:22:52]: Hello? [1:22:57, 1:23:00]: Are there any members of the community in attendance? [1:23:03, 1:23:12]: Would you like them to raise their hands if they had a comment or question? Yeah, I mean raise a hand or uh acknowledge that someone Lions family just came on. [1:23:12, 1:23:18]: We have two attendants. I'm not no let me say I'm not seeing any hands raised. I see thirty two participants. [1:23:18, 1:23:21]: Wait, let me get finished. I see thirty two participants. [1:23:21, 1:23:27]: But I don't see any hands raised. But uh Miss Lyons, uh Mr Lyons, go ahead with your question or comment. [1:23:29, 1:23:32]: All right, I'm unmute him for I'm uh uh unmute him, sorry. [1:23:34, 1:23:41]: Thank you. And I know there are a lot of people that are still trying to get in that since we expected to be able to log in at six thirty, but I I appreciate you. [1:23:42, 1:23:45]: letting us in at this point and having a a chance to speak. [1:23:45, 1:23:49]: Um I I live on North Salem with my husband and I know [1:23:50, 1:23:52]: Most of the folks around me. [1:23:52, 1:23:52]: Um [1:23:54, 1:23:55]: We like that they've [1:23:55, 1:23:57]: The builder has offered [1:23:57, 1:23:59]: A lot of the improvements that he's made. [1:24:00, 1:24:05]: But we're s we've still more or less discussed in all of the previous meetings that [1:24:06, 1:24:07]: Henry County. [1:24:07, 1:24:14]: The in the infrastructure that is set up is not prepared for another community of this size on Brennan Road right now. [1:24:15, 1:24:21]: There there's no improvements to plant to im improve it at any time soon either. So [1:24:21, 1:24:24]: You have the concerns about increased traffic. [1:24:25, 1:24:26]: Uh the fact that there's [1:24:27, 1:24:28]: Low [1:24:30, 1:24:32]: I'm I'm trying to think of the proper word. There's a [1:24:32, 1:24:35]: The loc local police are not travelling the [1:24:35, 1:24:39]: Nor Salem much at all because of the type of the road that is. [1:24:39, 1:24:42]: So we're not getting the the visibility from [1:24:43, 1:24:45]: uh the local police as far as [1:24:45, 1:24:48]: No, inc increased density will will bring more crime. [1:24:49, 1:24:51]: Uh no matter how nice the houses are and [1:24:52, 1:24:54]: Whoever lives in them. [1:24:54, 1:24:55]: uh [1:24:55, 1:24:57]: have the concerns with [1:24:57, 1:25:01]: More children being a a large neighborhood, it's gonna be full of families. [1:25:02, 1:25:03]: Got one school there. [1:25:04, 1:25:10]: The school isn't prepared to add on immediately either, so you might have to worry about overcrowding the [1:25:10, 1:25:13]: COVID isn't gonna be around forever and [1:25:14, 1:25:14]: Yeah. [1:25:14, 1:25:20]: classrooms are gonna be more than full once the kids all get back in into their classrooms again. [1:25:20, 1:25:23]: Uh you also that's still also a two lane road. [1:25:24, 1:25:26]: Yeah, there's an egress for [1:25:26, 1:25:32]: If the new community would be built for them to turn in and turn out, that's still a two lane road. That's [1:25:32, 1:25:33]: gonna be [1:25:33, 1:25:38]: An increase of at least three hundred cars a day passing back and forth in front of that school. [1:25:39, 1:25:39]: And [1:25:40, 1:25:46]: the area where the other two subdivisions are as well as North Salem Drive, that's gonna make it [1:25:46, 1:25:48]: very difficult for anyone. [1:25:49, 1:25:50]: Coming and going. [1:25:50, 1:25:52]: On a daily basis. [1:25:52, 1:25:53]: Uh [1:25:54, 1:25:54]: Yeah. [1:25:55, 1:25:57]: It's just all all around. It's [1:25:58, 1:26:00]: It's a bad idea. [1:26:00, 1:26:04]: The that area is not ready for that jump in growth. [1:26:04, 1:26:05]: And [1:26:05, 1:26:08]: Overall the comparisons in [1:26:08, 1:26:09]: This [1:26:09, 1:26:13]: offering have been comparing the area to Stockbridge. [1:26:14, 1:26:14]: Are [1:26:15, 1:26:16]: Our main [1:26:18, 1:26:18]: Oh. [1:26:18, 1:26:21]: Our community is really more rural. [1:26:21, 1:26:21]: Bed. [1:26:21, 1:26:24]: city and that's the way we like it. [1:26:24, 1:26:26]: Со іфрот із гана кам. [1:26:27, 1:26:35]: Let it come either at a little smaller pace or let the houses be spaced farther apart so we can keep that rural feel that we have. [1:26:36, 1:26:40]: That we've had for the last twenty plus years in that area. [1:26:41, 1:26:41]: And [1:26:42, 1:26:46]: That's that's what we wanna keep. We wanna keep that type of community and that type of feel. [1:26:47, 1:26:49]: 'cause that's what we moved there for. [1:26:49, 1:26:49]: And [1:26:50, 1:26:52]: That's why a lot of the people that live there have [1:26:52, 1:26:54]: been there for decades plus. [1:26:55, 1:27:00]: 'Cause they like the way the community feels as it is. They don't want it to turn into stock bridge. [1:27:06, 1:27:08]: That it mislined. [1:27:08, 1:27:09]: Yes, sir. Thank you. [1:27:10, 1:27:10]: Okay. [1:27:12, 1:27:17]: Are there any other uh participants out there vapor? I don't see a hand. I don't see any hands. Would you kindly [1:27:18, 1:27:20]: Karen Robinson has her hand up. [1:27:20, 1:27:21]: Who? [1:27:21, 1:27:22]: Karen Robinson. [1:27:23, 1:27:25]: Okay, Miss Robinson, go ahead. [1:27:26, 1:27:27]: Karen Robbins, thank you. [1:27:28, 1:27:28]: Um [1:27:30, 1:27:36]: I understand there's gonna be a development at the intersection of East Lake Parkway. [1:27:36, 1:27:37]: And Springdale Road. [1:27:38, 1:27:40]: Springdale Road comes into Brennan Road. [1:27:41, 1:27:46]: So when that um that's supposed to be a quite a large complex when it's finished. [1:27:46, 1:27:48]: And I um [1:27:49, 1:27:59]: You know, I think that needs to be taken into consideration'cause there will be traffic coming off. Yeah, I mean, raise a hand or uh acknowledge that someone Lions family just came on. [1:27:59, 1:28:06]: Hello. Ms. Robbins. Can you hear me? Yes. Can you hear me? All right. Yeah, are you yeah, go ahead. [1:28:06, 1:28:08]: Okay, other people are talking. [1:28:08, 1:28:12]: Um and also I would like to know when [1:28:12, 1:28:15]: This piece of land was uh [1:28:17, 1:28:21]: Incorporated into the city of Stockbridge. I never recall a [1:28:22, 1:28:24]: Sign saying that was happening. [1:28:25, 1:28:26]: О [1:28:26, 1:28:29]: Anything. I would like to know what year that was that [1:28:30, 1:28:35]: That land became city of Stockbridge. I can answer that. It was annexed of the city in two thousand four. [1:28:36, 1:28:38]: All right, thank you. [1:28:38, 1:28:45]: And um I will still think that there should be an environmental study done about water runoff. [1:28:46, 1:28:51]: The water tables have changed in this county due to a lot of construction. [1:28:51, 1:28:56]: And it's been a problem in the past and even when it rains heavily. [1:28:57, 1:29:06]: The pavement on North Salem fills up with water very easily and it's can it's treacherous at times during a heavy rain just to drive down the street. [1:29:07, 1:29:08]: So our [1:29:08, 1:29:09]: Um [1:29:10, 1:29:15]: I really think, you know, some kind of study needs to be done about the water runoff. Thank you. [1:29:17, 1:29:19]: I thank you, Miss Robbins. [1:29:20, 1:29:22]: Are there any other hands up out there? [1:29:22, 1:29:23]: We have Mark Jones. [1:29:27, 1:29:27]: Jones? [1:29:29, 1:29:32]: Mr. Jones, Mr. or Mrs. Jones, would you speak up? [1:29:39, 1:29:49]: Mr. or Mrs. Jones. They are allowed to talk, but they're not they're still on mute, Mark Jones. Mr. Jones, would you kindly unmute yourself so that we can hear you? [1:29:54, 1:29:57]: Jones family, would you unmute yourself so that we can hear you? [1:29:58, 1:30:05]: I would just like to say the format is different on our screen, or at least on my screen. I don't see the participants on here at all. [1:30:05, 1:30:08]: So I don't see them I don't see them either. So [1:30:08, 1:30:09]: Uh [1:30:09, 1:30:11]: format is we have another um [1:30:12, 1:30:14]: Marty Vern and Greg Ferry. [1:30:15, 1:30:17]: They have their hand raised as well. [1:30:18, 1:30:19]: Yes, there's three of us here. [1:30:20, 1:30:31]: Um yeah, so matter of fact, Mark Jones, I don't know what's happening there, but he has a presentation that the community got together and uh we would like for him to do that. Anyway, I would like to say that uh [1:30:32, 1:30:40]: One of our main concerns is uh that this a subdivision of this size going in on this piece of property. [1:30:40, 1:30:45]: Um is not uh comparable to those in our community. [1:30:45, 1:30:52]: The extensive uh report that they were talking about that the man gave at the uh last community meeting. [1:30:53, 1:30:53]: Uh [1:30:54, 1:30:55]: That was [1:30:56, 1:30:59]: Тринав мер радис анво. [1:31:00, 1:31:07]: West on west of Brenner Road. Nothing to the east, nothing to the south, nothing to the north. [1:31:07, 1:31:11]: And our community is all in that direction. [1:31:11, 1:31:15]: from from this piece of property. This piece of property is on the very [1:31:16, 1:31:19]: uh western edge of our little community. [1:31:19, 1:31:39]: And this is the only piece of property that is annexed in the city of Stockbridge. We are rural. We're rural in the Henry County, and all of our properties are larger properties. The subdivision slammed up right next to the ones that they're comparing to is larger lots. Further south. [1:31:39, 1:31:41]: [5501.7, 5521.7]: As larger lots. There's uh about at least six subdivisions in our community that all have lots that are larger lots, and that's the way our community has been. This is not comparable with our community. It's comparable with the city of Stockbridge, three miles and three and a half miles out to the to the west, but it's not. [1:32:01, 1:32:18]: not in with our community. And I think that's what you're what's really getting everybody the most. Uh it's just too many houses, too many cars, too many people for the schools, the roads, the infrastructure. It it's too much to bring into this area. [1:32:18, 1:32:29]: And uh seeing it all the time with the ones that have come in uh over the years. And we've got this big one that Karen Robinson just talking about that's gonna be bringing traffic to us as well. [1:32:31, 1:32:33]: Which community do you reside in? [1:32:33, 1:32:38]: Um why not make a presentation uh for from the behalf of the community? [1:32:39, 1:32:42]: We'd like more hold on for a minute. [1:32:43, 1:32:49]: We're Marty Verner and which community do you reside in? We live on North Stalin Drive. [1:32:50, 1:32:52]: Which community do you reside in? [1:32:52, 1:33:12]: I live in Westminster. Our little community is not a name to it. We've been here since we've lived here for thirty three years. [1:33:12, 1:33:28]: years and it's been like this and the new subdivisions that have come in have also been larger lots. Okay. Am I able to make a presentation? I think that will kind of clarify clarify some things. We'll let it let Mark speak. Mark has our presentation along with the rest of our community. [1:33:28, 1:33:37]: Yes. Yes, uh yes. That would be best to for you to listen to him because we all kind of got our thoughts together and he's got the presentation. [1:33:38, 1:33:42]: All right, go ahead, sir. Can I share my screen? Go ahead, share your screen. [1:33:45, 1:33:45]: Sir. [1:33:46, 1:33:47]: Yes, I'm sharing up. [1:33:48, 1:33:50]: Okay, can all see my screen? [1:33:50, 1:33:52]: Yes. Can you hear me okay? [1:33:52, 1:33:54]: Yes. Okay. [1:33:54, 1:33:56]: Hello, my name is Mark Jones. [1:33:57, 1:34:06]: And um this is um reference to the presentation to the Stock Bridge uh Planning and Zoning members. Uh this is by the local community members and today is the 25th. [1:34:11, 1:34:12]: Page. [1:34:13, 1:34:15]: Okay, the community requests that the [1:34:15, 1:34:19]: Stockbridge planning and zoning board members would vote no to the rezoning. [1:34:20, 1:34:24]: Reasons uh the R three zoning is out of character with the surrounding area. [1:34:25, 1:34:28]: You know, Clark Metal is only parcel with less than [1:34:28, 1:34:30]: A half acre of land. [1:34:30, 1:34:37]: The thirty nine new hundred and thirty nine new homes on seventy three acres is just too dense of a development for that parcel. [1:34:38, 1:34:42]: Additional homes will require will overpopulate the mostly rural area. [1:34:43, 1:34:45]: The home values would be decreased. [1:34:46, 1:34:53]: The concerns we have with Battle's Law proposal, the initial community meeting with Battle Law said that they stated that there were thirty-five members. [1:34:54, 1:34:55]: We're in favor of the development. [1:34:55, 1:34:56]: However [1:34:56, 1:35:00]: The members who actually attended the meeting said the majority was against the proposal. [1:35:01, 1:35:04]: No, the traffic study was conducted was not beneficial. [1:35:04, 1:35:07]: It was completed during time when school was out. [1:35:08, 1:35:11]: And like the gentleman had said, there's only one data point that was taken. [1:35:12, 1:35:15]: And the weekend Friday and weekend was not even considered. [1:35:16, 1:35:19]: Initial proposal was for a home to be a non brick. [1:35:20, 1:35:21]: Front entry garages. [1:35:22, 1:35:24]: You know, three point one net density per acre. [1:35:26, 1:35:28]: Of the seventy three acres platform. [1:35:29, 1:35:32]: They have listed only forty seven acres actually can be developed. [1:35:33, 1:35:40]: Which leads to the very low small lot size, which also leads to twenty feet per you know, between the houses. [1:35:41, 1:35:47]: The last community meeting was held with the two days notice and without any signs on the road. This is really not acceptable. [1:35:48, 1:35:54]: And the comp comparisons were within a three mile radius, but that only included the stock bridge side. [1:35:55, 1:35:57]: The community concerns is excess of traffic. [1:35:57, 1:35:58]: On North Salem Road. [1:35:59, 1:36:02]: You know, battle laws suggest that the community should [1:36:02, 1:36:04]: Contract the city of Madonna. [1:36:04, 1:36:05]: To address the issue. [1:36:06, 1:36:08]: They got built in and stock a stock page. [1:36:09, 1:36:10]: But McGonna [1:36:11, 1:36:13]: Needs to address the issues with the road. [1:36:14, 1:36:17]: There's excessive traffic on Brandon Road as it is. [1:36:18, 1:36:24]: Uh uh entry deceleration lane and a possible future traffic light was the so-called proposed solution. [1:36:26, 1:36:29]: You know, drainage is also an issue that affects North Salem Road. [1:36:30, 1:36:34]: And it will increase with the uh defense with the uh with the dense development. [1:36:35, 1:36:39]: You know, portion of the parcel is in the in the floodplain. [1:36:40, 1:36:43]: No, the engineering study is supposed to address the issue. [1:36:44, 1:36:47]: You know, but obviously there's no guarantee to fix it. [1:36:48, 1:36:54]: And they're also you know overcrowding the school system, you know, to build more classrooms with trailers to accommodate. [1:36:54, 1:36:55]: Increase students. [1:36:58, 1:37:02]: The characteristics of the area, most of the areas have one or more acre lot. [1:37:03, 1:37:04]: Lost point. [1:37:05, 1:37:06]: Which is on Brandon Road. [1:37:06, 1:37:08]: Brandon in States. [1:37:08, 1:37:09]: Which is on Brandon Road. [1:37:10, 1:37:12]: Westminster, which is on North Salem. [1:37:13, 1:37:14]: Wildwood Street [1:37:14, 1:37:17]: No, intersecting the intersects brain of road. [1:37:17, 1:37:22]: White oak, you know, has its entry on campground, but the land is east of Brandon Estates. [1:37:23, 1:37:28]: as well as country acres. Now all these are surrounding areas have one or more acre lots. [1:37:29, 1:37:33]: And you can kind of see this is a pro proposed uh new development. [1:37:34, 1:37:36]: And the area that's around it. [1:37:37, 1:37:38]: No, mostly you have [1:37:38, 1:37:39]: Large a lot. [1:37:40, 1:37:46]: Now the characteristics according to Noted by Battle, the proposed subdivision, the reserve of Hickory Hills. [1:37:47, 1:37:51]: Needs the R3 zoning. The lot width is seventy-five feet. [1:37:52, 1:37:56]: You know, um, but the other surrounding subdivisions, Clark Meadows. [1:37:57, 1:38:04]: Which I'm not sure um the last I checked it was P D, but that that um is is not valid now, but [1:38:05, 1:38:07]: Crown Walk, which is next to it, is R two. [1:38:08, 1:38:10]: has a lot width of 125 feet. [1:38:12, 1:38:13]: They have thirty lots and they're on septic. [1:38:14, 1:38:15]: Moss point. [1:38:15, 1:38:16]: It's R two. [1:38:17, 1:38:19]: Their lot width is 100 feet. [1:38:20, 1:38:24]: And has this type of of of density and they're hundred and uh twenty five lots. [1:38:25, 1:38:28]: And then she also had shown that the summits in the highlands. [1:38:29, 1:38:30]: But [1:38:30, 1:38:35]: That entry is on highway forty two and that shouldn't even be considered in the discussion. [1:38:37, 1:38:42]: So Clark Meadows is right here and you can see how small the locks are there. [1:38:43, 1:38:50]: This this these entries on here is on 42, so that shouldn't be considered. You can see that the larger, you know, crown walk. [1:38:51, 1:38:53]: And Ma's point, they're on larger [1:38:54, 1:38:54]: Lot. [1:38:55, 1:38:56]: This is the new proposed area. [1:38:58, 1:39:00]: So if you look at the overall density [1:39:01, 1:39:03]: This is the part they're talking about. [1:39:03, 1:39:04]: Going to R three. [1:39:05, 1:39:06]: This is our two. [1:39:08, 1:39:13]: This is I'm not sure exactly what this new Clark McMells, but you can see all this is Stockbridge. [1:39:14, 1:39:16]: But this is the surrounding area. [1:39:18, 1:39:19]: So this is not. [1:39:21, 1:39:22]: Compatible with R three. [1:39:25, 1:39:27]: No, the person they say should be system. [1:39:28, 1:39:32]: With a zoning in the area. There's no current R three zoning. [1:39:32, 1:39:38]: If unless the Clark Meadows has has been changed. East of Brandon Road, you know, should be acre lot. [1:39:39, 1:39:42]: The parcel of land was grandfathered in as being stockridge, however [1:39:43, 1:39:44]: You know, it should be [1:39:45, 1:39:46]: А за с аджасен зон. [1:39:47, 1:39:48]: As like I said before. [1:39:48, 1:39:50]: All this around the area. [1:39:51, 1:39:52]: A large lot. [1:39:54, 1:39:56]: So the housing density has its place. [1:39:57, 1:40:01]: No, the dense housing should be on property that has adequate road infrastructure. [1:40:02, 1:40:04]: That supports the amount of traffic. [1:40:05, 1:40:07]: And rural housing should be on property. [1:40:07, 1:40:09]: That handles a certain amount of local traffic. [1:40:12, 1:40:14]: Community Delft Development Request [1:40:15, 1:40:18]: At least three quarters acre to a to a acre lot size. [1:40:19, 1:40:21]: Which is not R three, but R one or R two. [1:40:23, 1:40:26]: Now I do appreciate they uh did up the [1:40:26, 1:40:28]: Um the the criteria [1:40:28, 1:40:30]: To make all four side brick. [1:40:31, 1:40:33]: You know, a stone on the main level. [1:40:34, 1:40:39]: But their concession was only some of them would have side entry garages. [1:40:40, 1:40:46]: Uh but we prefer that you know all of them because most of the areas in our in the area do have side entry garages. [1:40:46, 1:40:48]: No, they're custom built, no houses. [1:40:49, 1:40:53]: You're on septic sanitation, no sewer lines to be installed. [1:40:54, 1:40:58]: Uh, because by installing sewer, you know, you are going to disrupt [1:40:58, 1:41:01]: Um the area even as it is now. [1:41:02, 1:41:06]: And we would like to to have the optional basements as the train permits. [1:41:06, 1:41:08]: This is what the community development [1:41:08, 1:41:09]: Request. [1:41:10, 1:41:15]: You know, we would prevent uh proposal would be homes with larger still. [1:41:15, 1:41:16]: A still deserve. [1:41:17, 1:41:21]: You know, homes with large lots are selling over asking price. [1:41:22, 1:41:29]: You know, homes with large lots, you know, priced in a three hundred to five hundred price range would be ex would be ac acceptable. [1:41:30, 1:41:37]: And remember, there's only forty-seven acres of developable land that is suited for custom built homes, not large subdivisions. [1:41:39, 1:41:44]: And we would prefer a builder with a niche to build homes within the characteristics of the area. [1:41:45, 1:41:47]: На но Либері ком'юнтиз. [1:41:48, 1:41:50]: When they'd restart to them, you know. [1:41:50, 1:41:53]: They do not have any. [1:41:53, 1:41:54]: Fully brick. [1:41:54, 1:42:00]: homes. The if you look at if you look at research, you know, the Liberty properties, what they have done [1:42:01, 1:42:04]: Um they would not fulfill any of these new proposals. [1:42:05, 1:42:09]: So my other question is what guarantees once the zoning has has passed. [1:42:10, 1:42:12]: And hopefully it does not go to to [1:42:12, 1:42:12]: R three. [1:42:13, 1:42:17]: How can the developer be held accountable for the proposal by the community? [1:42:18, 1:42:20]: Can the builder be vetted before they start? [1:42:21, 1:42:25]: You know, how can we prevent the builder from switching to a rental property later? [1:42:26, 1:42:29]: You know, how can we avoid a subdivision that's being started? [1:42:29, 1:42:33]: And several years later completed by another builder with different priorities. [1:42:34, 1:42:40]: And if it is gonna be built, something is gonna be built there, is a senior property development possible? [1:42:40, 1:42:42]: You know, that would lessen amount of cars. [1:42:43, 1:42:46]: And also would have no no effect on the schools. [1:42:48, 1:42:53]: Well, in conclusion, the community surrounding the parcel would like to kindly re uh request [1:42:53, 1:42:56]: Let the planning zone member board members to vote no. [1:42:57, 1:42:58]: to the RA [1:42:58, 1:43:00]: to R three zoning requests. [1:43:01, 1:43:07]: We understand the development will happen sooner than later, but the type of development needs to be harmonious with the area. [1:43:08, 1:43:09]: And to enhance the area. [1:43:10, 1:43:11]: And not to degrade the area. [1:43:13, 1:43:17]: I want to thank you to Linda Logan for listening and replying to promptly to my request. [1:43:18, 1:43:25]: Thank you, Mr. Abdullah, for requesting that community have input uh before the board members voted. I appreciate that. [1:43:26, 1:43:30]: Thank you, Mr. Dumas and Mrs. Wallace uh for your support as well. [1:43:31, 1:43:36]: And uh thank you for the community members, you know, that helped me uh put all this together. [1:43:40, 1:43:44]: And again, I think for the on the behalf of the you know community. [1:43:44, 1:43:45]: Um [1:43:46, 1:43:47]: We [1:43:47, 1:43:51]: The then the lot sizes with the houses being twenty feet apart. [1:43:53, 1:43:53]: Um [1:43:54, 1:43:56]: That is not the type of development [1:43:57, 1:43:58]: Да, ви а за комніти [1:43:59, 1:44:00]: want in this area. [1:44:01, 1:44:05]: And would be and that would not be beneficial to this area at all at all. [1:44:05, 1:44:07]: As you can see going back to here. [1:44:09, 1:44:11]: The whole area around here [1:44:12, 1:44:15]: It's R A, maybe even R one or R two. [1:44:15, 1:44:19]: But R three for this part is just really totally encroachment. [1:44:19, 1:44:20]: And is not [1:44:21, 1:44:21]: Something [1:44:22, 1:44:23]: That this area [1:44:24, 1:44:25]: Would benefit [1:44:25, 1:44:26]: This area. [1:44:26, 1:44:30]: Now all the development as far as stock bridge is concerned. [1:44:30, 1:44:35]: You know, you need to have the road structure in place to handle that type of dense development. [1:44:36, 1:44:38]: And what you're having here. [1:44:39, 1:44:41]: With a traffic study that was not. [1:44:41, 1:44:43]: very um [1:44:44, 1:44:51]: No, I was thorough, but it was it was not at the right time because as two no two or three years later down the road. [1:44:52, 1:44:57]: That traffic study, even at a twenty five percent increase, as the d the gentleman had said. [1:44:58, 1:45:00]: Um with just one data point. [1:45:00, 1:45:01]: Із на [1:45:01, 1:45:03]: Very good practice study at this time. [1:45:04, 1:45:07]: And the traffic is going to be very much impacted. [1:45:08, 1:45:08]: Bye. [1:45:08, 1:45:10]: this type of development. [1:45:10, 1:45:12]: So I would suggest that [1:45:13, 1:45:14]: You find a a builder. [1:45:15, 1:45:17]: That would be able to [1:45:17, 1:45:19]: Make things [1:45:19, 1:45:20]: Request [1:45:22, 1:45:26]: And be able to, you know, in that way we be harmonious. [1:45:27, 1:45:30]: with the area, but uh but like I said. [1:45:30, 1:45:31]: In conclusion. [1:45:31, 1:45:33]: Please vote no. [1:45:33, 1:45:38]: to the R A to R three. That's a big jump, going from R A to R three. [1:45:38, 1:45:39]: We kindly [1:45:39, 1:45:41]: And respectfully request. [1:45:41, 1:45:43]: That the board members would vote. [1:45:44, 1:45:45]: No for this proposal. [1:45:46, 1:45:47]: And I would stop sharing my screen. [1:45:50, 1:45:52]: All right, thank you very much for your presentation. [1:45:54, 1:45:55]: I can p. [1:46:00, 1:46:04]: Uh is there anyone else with that uh the total community? [1:46:05, 1:46:06]: We have a Linda Kerr. [1:46:07, 1:46:09]: But her hand raised. [1:46:15, 1:46:17]: Please unmute yourself, Linda. [1:46:20, 1:46:21]: What any words? [1:46:24, 1:46:25]: Is it on now? [1:46:27, 1:46:29]: Yeah, sure, Linda. [1:46:30, 1:46:38]: Um I'm uh I live in St. Andrews at Rockport, lived here for twenty three years. And this has [1:46:40, 1:46:49]: This has been an excellent place to live and I would like my property value to remain high. [1:46:49, 1:46:51]: Um this could be one there. [1:46:53, 1:47:11]: This has been an extra safe letter time and I would like my property value to the main high. So I'm asking that you vote no on R3 zoning. Thank you. This could be an extra safe letter time. All right, thank you, Ms. Kerr. [1:47:15, 1:47:16]: Is there anyone else out there? [1:47:18, 1:47:19]: Anyone else? [1:47:21, 1:47:22]: Uh, Miss Battle. [1:47:23, 1:47:27]: Mr. Abdullah, thank you. Would I be giving you a big Barber Fleshman has her hand raised. [1:47:28, 1:47:32]: Who is this now? Barber Fleshman has her hand raised. [1:47:32, 1:47:33]: All right, Miss Flexman, go ahead. [1:47:35, 1:47:36]: Miss Battle, just bear with us for it. [1:47:39, 1:47:39]: Go ahead. [1:47:42, 1:47:42]: Okay. [1:47:43, 1:47:45]: Who has a hand raised? [1:47:45, 1:47:48]: No, you need to speak a little louder so I can hear you. I can't hear you. [1:47:48, 1:47:49]: You can't hear me? [1:47:50, 1:47:53]: I can hear you now. What's your name? Name and address. [1:47:53, 1:48:02]: Far okay, I live at ten twenty-six Brandon Road. I have nine acres. We moved here in nineteen eighty nine, so thirty years ago. [1:48:02, 1:48:03]: And [1:48:04, 1:48:24]: What the traffic study is really inadequate. They built that school down there. I never objected to anything being built on Brandon Road, but it got so bad with the school that I can't hardly get out of my driveway during school hours. And my neighbor on the other side of me, she's been here about as long as I have. She had eight acres. [1:48:24, 1:48:42]: Oh, has eight acres. And then she moved the other side of me. She got six acres. But um so she was trying to turn in her driveway and people were trying to run over her, blow the horn. She couldn't even turn in her driveway. Same thing with me. We almost get rear-ended. The traffic is ridiculous without this other subdivision. [1:48:42, 1:49:02]: And the the traffic study, he said it would be uh fourteen hundred and eighty-two trips, extra trips a day. And he also said an additional lane would be required. Whose property is that gonna take if they have to put additional lane in there? Because Brandon Road is a two-lane road and there's uh Clark Meadows one side and the new proposed subdivision on the other. So where is an extra [1:49:02, 1:49:06]: extra lane gonna go then I don't even know where the ingress and egress lanes would be. [1:49:07, 1:49:07]: Um [1:49:09, 1:49:13]: The houses, you know, we would prefer they were at least uh [1:49:13, 1:49:20]: Twenty five hundred, three thousand square feet. And we had told Miss Battle that the two thousand uh square feet was not big enough. [1:49:20, 1:49:29]: Um, the Ms. Logan said that the school said they would need eleven more classrooms. Um, everybody's school taxes will go up to take care of that. [1:49:30, 1:49:31]: And uh [1:49:31, 1:49:45]: Like I said, we first moved out here, there weren't any subdivisions on Brown Road, to my knowledge. And that St. Andrews at Rockport got started a long time ago. And then I think the builder built like three houses in there and never finished them. They set just [1:49:46, 1:49:53]: uh you know, empty for years, uncompleted. And then years later somebody finally went in there and finished the subdivision. [1:49:53, 1:50:12]: and and built it out. And then on the other side of me on Brandon Road, I can't remember the subdivision. I think there are five hundred thousand dollar homes in there. But that land was sold, the infrastructure was put in, and then the builder went belly up and the that that land sat there empty for years and it turned into a trash dump. [1:50:13, 1:50:24]: So um I've been I put the uh meeting information with the zoning so people would know it. I put it on uh Wildwood next door or something like that. [1:50:24, 1:50:30]: And I got contacted by Elton Alexander. He told me that I wasn't woke. [1:50:30, 1:50:33]: And that I didn't like diversity. [1:50:33, 1:50:39]: And uh he he would be the deciding factor or whether or not this subdivision gets approved. [1:50:39, 1:50:46]: And so I don't like his comments and all of us around here are not trying to you know [1:50:46, 1:50:49]: Uh stop any diversity. Um we [1:50:50, 1:51:10]: Don't object to the right improvements being for this area. But I think you sir were the one that said she wouldn't want this subdivision being built down the road from you. Or was one of the members that said that initially. And that's how we feel about it. If you want to put something in there, we don't want the status quo. We want something better. And let's let's you know let's have some higher [1:51:11, 1:51:12]: Value houses come in. [1:51:13, 1:51:14]: High end houses, yeah. [1:51:15, 1:51:16]: High end houses. [1:51:16, 1:51:18]: So that's my comment. So thank you for listening. [1:51:19, 1:51:21]: All right, thank you, Ms. Fleshman. [1:51:21, 1:51:22]: Yes, thank you. [1:51:23, 1:51:25]: There's a Mr Richard Gill. [1:51:26, 1:51:28]: I hope I pronounced that name correctly. [1:51:28, 1:51:32]: It was a great opportun great uh [1:51:32, 1:51:33]: Uh [1:51:33, 1:51:34]: Well great job. [1:51:35, 1:51:38]: I'm sorry. Yeah, it was a good chance. Let me uh can you hear me? [1:51:39, 1:51:40]: Yes. [1:51:40, 1:51:50]: Okay. So I live in the Westminster subdivision. I've been here for fifteen years. My attraction to this area was the fact that there was um a larger [1:51:51, 1:51:54]: building structures that were in this area and I knew that my [1:51:54, 1:51:58]: My resident that I was building on an acre plus lot was going to [1:51:58, 1:52:02]: Increase in value because all of the other opportunities in this area. [1:52:03, 1:52:04]: We're at that level or [1:52:04, 1:52:05]: Or even greater [1:52:06, 1:52:08]: From the standpoint of purchasing land. [1:52:08, 1:52:09]: Um [1:52:09, 1:52:23]: I've got to tell you that um I was shocked when the uh neighborhood went in across the street from where North Salem meets Brennan Road. Uh all of the uh the the the [1:52:25, 1:52:29]: High density, I guess, neighborhood that was put there. [1:52:29, 1:52:36]: put a lot of cars and struct and uh additional trips up and down Brandon Road, which [1:52:40, 1:52:41]: You know, back in the day. [1:52:41, 1:52:45]: It's okay to travel up Brown to Brandon Road either way. [1:52:45, 1:52:50]: without having a whole lot of complication, but now that you've got that neighborhood in [1:52:50, 1:52:54]: You go to the one in of Brandon Road, where it meets on the on the south side. [1:52:55, 1:52:56]: Of uh forty two. [1:52:57, 1:52:58]: You have cars backed up. [1:52:59, 1:53:01]: for eight or nine deep. [1:53:01, 1:53:03]: trying to get on that uh [1:53:05, 1:53:08]: angled uh stop sign there to get back on forty two. [1:53:09, 1:53:15]: And a constant basis. People are not they're afraid to get back on 42. There's you've got the two lanes. [1:53:15, 1:53:19]: Uh starting up for forty two heading into uh [1:53:20, 1:53:25]: uh heading into Stockbridge on the northbound lanes, and you've got the single lane going south. [1:53:26, 1:53:28]: And then you've got the l stop light at the other end. [1:53:29, 1:53:31]: And you've constantly got traffic backed up there. [1:53:32, 1:53:34]: Eight or nine or ten deep cars. [1:53:34, 1:53:40]: The roads are just not manageable for the increase of cars and trips that you're talking about. [1:53:40, 1:53:42]: fulfilling in this this development. [1:53:43, 1:53:44]: And then you've got [1:53:44, 1:53:46]: Brennan, you've got North Salem Road. [1:53:46, 1:53:48]: Now let me tell you about North Salem Road. [1:53:48, 1:53:52]: I've been here fifteen years and that that road is washed out twice. [1:53:53, 1:53:56]: With just the number of cars that are coming from [1:53:56, 1:53:58]: Uh the east side. [1:53:58, 1:54:01]: Or the west side going to the east side to Union Grove High School. [1:54:02, 1:54:05]: Let me tell you, it's washed out twice and it's going to wash out again. [1:54:06, 1:54:09]: The roads are already deteriorating to the point to where they got potholes. [1:54:10, 1:54:17]: developing and you go and put this subdivision in with another three four hundred and fifty cars potentially traveling up. [1:54:17, 1:54:18]: North Salem Road. [1:54:19, 1:54:21]: And you're gonna increase the the uh [1:54:21, 1:54:24]: The resurfacing requirements for that road. [1:54:24, 1:54:27]: And the fact that that road is so narrow. [1:54:27, 1:54:28]: That you can't get. [1:54:29, 1:54:34]: But wonder sometimes you have to stop to let them the other lane pass. [1:54:34, 1:54:36]: So that you can continue down the road. [1:54:36, 1:54:37]: Because the uh [1:54:38, 1:54:39]: Resident trash cans. [1:54:40, 1:54:41]: That are being dumped. [1:54:41, 1:54:44]: on their day of being emptied. [1:54:44, 1:54:47]: Are next to the road and that you don't have any room to get by. [1:54:48, 1:54:52]: So any kind of traffic up and down that road that's larger than a normal sedan. [1:54:53, 1:54:55]: Is gonna have to work its way in slow motion. [1:54:56, 1:54:57]: to to pass each other. [1:54:58, 1:54:58]: And [1:54:58, 1:55:00]: I'll tell you right now, last year [1:55:01, 1:55:04]: I drive a suburban, so I carry up a lot of that that roadway. [1:55:05, 1:55:08]: I got accosted by somebody coming out of that big neighborhood. [1:55:08, 1:55:10]: That you approved across the street from [1:55:11, 1:55:12]: Where Brian wrote. [1:55:12, 1:55:16]: Or where North Salem meets Brandon Road because they wanted to go around me. [1:55:16, 1:55:20]: And they couldn't go around me. I wasn't going fast enough, but I was doing speed limit. [1:55:21, 1:55:22]: Because it's a dangerous road. [1:55:23, 1:55:24]: If you get going too fast. [1:55:25, 1:55:26]: And the gentleman [1:55:26, 1:55:33]: Ended up running off the road to go around me, stopped in front of me, jumped out of his car, and acted like he had a gun in his pocket. [1:55:34, 1:55:35]: Now you tell me [1:55:35, 1:55:36]: How that's safe. [1:55:39, 1:55:44]: When people buy the right kind of structured homes and they have to live in the right kind of economy to [1:55:44, 1:55:47]: That's the that's that we've we've got in this area. [1:55:48, 1:55:50]: That's the kind of living that we wanted. [1:55:51, 1:55:55]: And for that to be in our our neighborhood now is a disgrace. [1:55:56, 1:55:58]: should not be part of our lifestyle. [1:55:59, 1:56:01]: And so the other thing I want to bring about. [1:56:03, 1:56:14]: that I feel like is something that you need to be able to use is the resurfacing structure of all of the Henry County Roads. If you're scared about lawsuits and other things being put in here because of the [1:56:15, 1:56:17]: You know, failing to approve. [1:56:17, 1:56:21]: Take'em up and let them pay for the resurfacing of the roads, they're continue to be [1:56:22, 1:56:26]: used by all of this traffic that's coming in from these high density neighborhoods. [1:56:27, 1:56:32]: And let them be a part of paying up our solution and uh driving [1:56:32, 1:56:37]: uh dollars to the bottom line to help pay to pay for all of that. So [1:56:37, 1:56:42]: That's what I've got to say. I appreciate your time. I appreciate you giving us the opportunity to [1:56:43, 1:56:46]: To speak our minds and give you an opportunity to understand. [1:56:46, 1:56:47]: Why we're here? [1:56:47, 1:56:49]: Why I came here. [1:56:49, 1:56:50]: And what we're looking for. [1:56:51, 1:56:54]: I know it's gotta be developed. I don't have a problem with development. [1:56:54, 1:57:00]: What I have a problem with is the development that increases or reduces the safety of my family. [1:57:01, 1:57:08]: my family's kids, the families around me, and their families, and the the the the the fact that [1:57:08, 1:57:10]: You don't see the standard. [1:57:11, 1:57:15]: right now because of the pandemic of the r of the traffic report [1:57:16, 1:57:19]: Вот усі із апандемік реляти аналізи. [1:57:20, 1:57:24]: And it's not anywhere close to what it what was true before. [1:57:24, 1:57:25]: The pandemic. [1:57:26, 1:57:27]: Thank you for your time. [1:57:28, 1:57:29]: I thank you, Mr. Gill. [1:57:30, 1:57:32]: Anyone else out there? [1:57:32, 1:57:34]: There was a Danny Kilpatrick. [1:57:34, 1:57:37]: That had their hand raised. Kilpatrick. [1:57:38, 1:57:40]: Mr. Kilpatrick, would you proceed? [1:57:40, 1:57:45]: Hi. Um I'm speaking on the behalf of the Kilpatrix. I'm under Martin Jones's um [1:57:46, 1:57:50]: log in because it was extremely difficult to get in. Um I don't know if you guys are taking [1:57:50, 1:57:56]: uh records of that. But please understand that has not been very user friendly for the community to [1:57:56, 1:57:58]: uh voice or opinion [1:57:58, 1:58:05]: Um, like we would normally do if we had a board commissioner meeting where we would be present and you could see the numbers in in person. [1:58:05, 1:58:07]: Um everyone else is actually. [1:58:07, 1:58:14]: Uh, stated all the facts that uh we are deeply opposed to this project, and it's not because we're opposed to growth, but [1:58:14, 1:58:16]: It is a reckless [1:58:16, 1:58:17]: Uh [1:58:17, 1:58:21]: impact that uh this developer has proposed [1:58:21, 1:58:26]: Uh, we've done lots of research on this develop developer, and they have also put [1:58:27, 1:58:28]: Ларджер лот. [1:58:28, 1:58:30]: larger homes in other communities. [1:58:30, 1:58:35]: What is being proposed in this community is not commensurate with what we have here. [1:58:35, 1:58:38]: And so and it has also been brought up that [1:58:38, 1:58:40]: The city of Stockbridge. [1:58:40, 1:58:41]: And McDonna [1:58:41, 1:58:48]: Um, are intersecting with each other. And so the impact of what your decision is going to affect many in the community. [1:58:49, 1:58:53]: And you do not have the right data to make that decision today. [1:58:53, 1:58:54]: If you [1:58:54, 1:58:58]: push forward with this decision without that data, that is gonna be a poor decision. [1:58:59, 1:59:04]: We would recommend if you do not have the data to push this off till you get the right am amount of data. [1:59:04, 1:59:08]: Uh we have also contacted the uh superintendent of the schools. [1:59:09, 1:59:10]: Um and they have um [1:59:11, 1:59:12]: spoken to us about [1:59:12, 1:59:14]: The growth and development of this area. [1:59:15, 1:59:20]: That this infrastructure for the educational system will not be commensurate with this particular property. [1:59:20, 1:59:23]: So what we're trying to explain is that [1:59:23, 1:59:31]: Again, we're not opposed to growth, but if putting that amount a hundred and plus hundred and fifty plus homes in that area. [1:59:31, 1:59:33]: It's just going to um [1:59:33, 1:59:35]: Reaped disaster for our area and [1:59:36, 1:59:39]: The individuals that are proposing this, you don't have to live here. [1:59:39, 1:59:45]: So you don't have to to understand that we're gonna have to be here with that and that makes people move. [1:59:45, 1:59:47]: And that makes people want to go to other areas. [1:59:48, 1:59:56]: We don't want to move because we have really built our house to to live here for forever. So um [1:59:57, 2:00:03]: I just wanted to voice our concerns. Um, it has been extremely difficult to get our opposition to you guys. [2:00:04, 2:00:05]: А the emails have been coming back. [2:00:06, 2:00:13]: Just wanted to put that on record. And we were not aware that this was gonna be a Facebook live presentation. We were prepared for Zoom, so we were [2:00:13, 2:00:17]: Uh waiting for that, not uh and we weren't able to to join. [2:00:17, 2:00:18]: And um [2:00:19, 2:00:21]: You know, now I'm under Mark Jones's [2:00:21, 2:00:22]: presentation. So [2:00:23, 2:00:27]: Um, thank you for hearing us out. Um, and we hope that you vote no. [2:00:28, 2:00:30]: Thank you, Ms. Patrick. Kill Patrick, is that? [2:00:31, 2:00:31]: Thank you. [2:00:33, 2:00:35]: Uh anyone else out there? [2:00:39, 2:00:41]: Anyone else? Miss Wallace, you see anyone else? [2:00:42, 2:00:47]: Um Mark Jones has his hand up again and so does Mr. Um Gill. [2:00:48, 2:00:50]: Mr. Gill I think he just finished. [2:00:51, 2:00:52]: Yeah. But [2:00:52, 2:00:54]: Okay, all hands are down now. [2:00:54, 2:00:55]: All hands are down. [2:00:57, 2:01:00]: That being the case, we're gonna close the uh public um [2:01:01, 2:01:02]: Response, pardon me. [2:01:03, 2:01:23]: I'm sorry, Mr. Doell, do I get a any opportunity? This is Michelle Battle. Do I get any opportunity? All right. Well go I'll make it. I'll make it brief. No, no, go ahead. Okay. Um I I wanted to um respond to a couple of things. Um, number one, um, this property is um the last uh property at the end of uh the [2:01:23, 2:01:43]: City of Stockbridge off of Brandon Road on this portion of Brandon Road. Um we are uh in terms of uh the surrounding uh property owners, um particularly those who have um raised opposition tonight, um with no disrespect, they are um in unincorporated um [2:01:43, 2:02:03]: Henry County, um, which obviously has a board of commissioners and a planning commission that directs um their zoning and planning decisions. With regards to this piece of property, um, the land use designation um indicates um up to two units per acre. And I think there's a misnomer that when [2:02:03, 2:02:23]: people think two units per acre that means that each lot has to be uh you know 2700 square feet or some uh 27,000 square feet or something of that nature. Um that is in fact not the case. Um the two units um we are slightly over we know we're actually under two units per acre now um for this site that is based [2:02:23, 2:02:43]: On the gross density. We are consistent with the subdivisions that are located within the jurisdictional boundaries of the city of Stockbridge. The Clark Meadows subdivision has been the latest development. It was developed in 2007, and they are a [2:02:43, 2:03:03]: combination of R2 and R three that's in their plat. You can see that very clearly. The Moss Point community does have lots that are at a designation without looking any further. They are at a designation [2:03:03, 2:03:23]: of the R2. They are minimum lot area, yes, of 18,000 square feet. Their density is 1.99 units per acre, and we are now at 1.89 units per acre. So we are actually less in density than the Moss Point community. We have [2:03:23, 2:03:43]: To look at those communities that are located within the jurisdictional boundaries of the city. And so therefore we are consistent with those that are under your guidance and command. The 2007 Clark Meadows community, we have tried to improve upon what was built there. [2:03:42, 2:04:02]: Um we again have lots that are larger than their lots. Um we have uh four-sided brick homes, which are comparable to what they have in their communities. Um we have a wider breadth between the homes, as we've already pointed out. Um our price points will be consistent with what is in their community, and we know that the city. [2:04:02, 2:04:22]: Of Stockbridge is seeking to grow. They want to grow in a manner that is responsive to its citizenry. We know that the people who live in the Clark Meadows community are very pleased with their community, with how it functions and operates and how it [2:04:22, 2:04:42]: It looks and we heard from them very clearly that they wanted something that was no less comparable to what they have in their community, which is why we went back and we improved upon the amenity areas. We improved some of the things that they did indicate were um problematic to the terms of the closeness of the homes. And so instead [2:04:42, 2:05:02]: Instead of being 10 feet apart, our units are 20 feet apart. Our lots are wider than their lots. Our lots are bigger than their lots. So we believe that we have done everything that is consistent and desirable by the city of Stockbridge for its residents and citizens. That doesn't mean that those [2:05:02, 2:05:22]: Who are surrounding have no voice. But I think it is important to note that the vast majority of those, if not almost all, of those who commented tonight live within unincorporated um uh Henry County. And we have had uh two meetings um with regards to this project, they were all very well attended. [2:05:22, 2:05:42]: We did provide a copy of that information and the Zoom calls to the staff, and I believe that they have had an opportunity to review them. With regards to the traffic study, yes, we provided that traffic study, but it should be noted that zonings cannot be denied solely based on traffic-related issues. [2:05:42, 2:06:02]: traffic issues there we have spoken with um the city uh sorry um henry county um that is responsible for the mass majority of Brandon Road and also for um uh North Salem Road North Salem Road is not a city street um the county has its responsibilities we have raised those issues [2:06:02, 2:06:22]: um with them that the community has had about North Salem Road. A lot of the drainage issues that they have are because there are no detention features along there. There's no stormwater features along there. We will have all of that within our community. We are entitled to be able to bring sewer into this community. So this will [2:06:22, 2:06:42]: Be a sewered community similar to uh Clark Meadows, which comes at great expense to us to bring sewer into this project. So, with all due respect, we are asking again for a recommendation of approval based on the conditions provided by staff. Again, we are consistent with the land use plan um that has been promulgated. [2:06:42, 2:06:56]: by the city. And we are certainly consistent in less than the density that is already existing within the city of Stockbridge for the both Moss Point and Clark Meadows. Thank you. [2:06:56, 2:07:04]: Let me ask you this. Um, what kind of response did you get from Clark Meadows and uh Moss Point, I guess? Those those are the adjoining communities, correct? [2:07:05, 2:07:25]: Yes, sir. Um, when the the last meeting, and I've never said that we had 35 people in support, I'm not sure where that statement came from, but um on those um meetings, um we did have individuals that were on the call from there. Um we didn't take a poll of who was supportive or who was not. Um there was a lot of discussion about not being [2:07:25, 2:07:45]: Being less than Park Meadows in terms of the house style. There was someone who made a comment about the width between the homes. And so that was one of the things we wanted to make sure that we pointed out because we had to examine why their homes were so close together. We now know that they that there was. [2:07:44, 2:08:04]: Of variance that was obtained at the time that those homes were built that allowed them to be no more than 10 feet apart. And so that was one of the issues. We did receive some comments about the amenity areas. And so that's why we included the pool because there were comments. Well, you know, we have a pool, we have this, we have that. So we went back. We lost some lots. [2:08:04, 2:08:24]: Lots to drop the lot density and to beef up our amenity area such that we actually have two large amenity areas versus um Clark Meadows that only has one. And well, I didn't really hear anybody from Moss Point that I can recall. I don't mean to discount anyone, but I don't recall on that those. [2:08:24, 2:08:44]: Those calls, anyone directly from Moss Point speaking out. But I have driven through the communities. I know that in Moss Point, for example, they have homes that have some brick fronts, hardy plank sides on a number of their homes. So these homes will be, again, all four-sided brick, which is what was consistent with the Clark Meadows community. [2:08:44, 2:08:55]: community and what had been requested. And so we tried to honor the request that came um to make sure that we were no less than um the Clark Meadows and and the Moss Point communities. [2:08:55, 2:08:56]: Yeah. [2:08:58, 2:08:59]: Miss Nelson. [2:09:01, 2:09:03]: Mr Nelson, are you making a comment? [2:09:03, 2:09:06]: Yes, sir. I would like to um can you hear me? [2:09:07, 2:09:08]: Sure, yes I can. Okay. [2:09:09, 2:09:09]: Um [2:09:10, 2:09:10]: I [2:09:11, 2:09:12]: Want to say that I am uh [2:09:13, 2:09:24]: Definitely not an architect, um, but I really appreciate the comments that Mr. Dumas made. Um, the questions he asked broke it down so that someone who's not an architect could kind of understand what was going on. [2:09:24, 2:09:25]: Uh-oh. [2:09:25, 2:09:27]: So I've heard I've listened to all the comments tonight. [2:09:28, 2:09:38]: Um, I've read um a lot of the emails. I know someone was saying that um some of the emails may not have been sent, but uh Miss Linda did send out a lot of emails and I read over all the emails that were sent out. [2:09:39, 2:09:39]: Mm. [2:09:40, 2:09:54]: And I have to say, um, I'm I I'm just not convinced um that that that the issues about um congestion and um the issues that congestion would bring, any environmental issues, I I'm just not [2:09:54, 2:10:01]: I'm convinced that you know enough has been done to make sure that all the communities concerns are taken care of. [2:10:01, 2:10:09]: Um, so you know, I I we can discuss how we're gonna move further, but at this point I'm just not convinced that this is the best thing. [2:10:09, 2:10:16]: Um, to bring into stop bridge because of you know some of the things that haven't been done. And that's based on some of the questions that Mr. Doom has asked. [2:10:17, 2:10:37]: And a lot of the concerns that the community is bringing in, um, you know, the the the people got these homes and they were thinking it was going to be a certain way. And it just seems like some of the changes that that is gonna come is gonna be completely different than what they hadn't had envisioned when they had moved into the community. And you know, I'm all for growth and progress, um, but you [2:10:36, 2:10:41]: you know, you you I I just haven't been convinced that this is the best thing to bring into this area. [2:10:42, 2:10:50]: How do you feel about the fact that most of the people who made negative comments about the development are in unincorporated Henry County and not in Stockbridge? [2:10:51, 2:11:08]: And I and I saw that and I know that's a challenge for Henry County because, well, particular specifically for Stockbridge, because the way that it is, you know, you have places that are right next to Stockbridge that are uncomfortable. But that goes back to a um, you know, there's some comments that some people haven't been. [2:11:08, 2:11:14]: heard like they wanted to, you know, they thought it was going to be one meeting and it wasn't, and they've sent stuff and [2:11:14, 2:11:22]: Um it that we what weren't able to be heard. So I I'm I'm just not convinced that everybody was heard and that this is the best thing for the city. [2:11:23, 2:11:23]: All right. [2:11:25, 2:11:26]: Uh Miss Wallace? [2:11:28, 2:11:31]: Yeah, I I first I wanna say to Miss uh Miss Fleischmann. [2:11:32, 2:11:36]: The comment that you made about Elted Alexander um [2:11:36, 2:11:40]: Місте Александра газ е престол сам. [2:11:41, 2:11:44]: That same sentiment to me, and it was very much unappreciated. [2:11:45, 2:11:46]: Um [2:11:46, 2:11:51]: It has t to me that that was very inappropriate to say [2:11:51, 2:11:53]: You weren't uh [2:11:53, 2:11:55]: Pretty much he was calling you a racist without saying it. [2:11:56, 2:11:57]: Um [2:11:58, 2:12:00]: As far as this community goes. [2:12:00, 2:12:07]: This meeting, there would probably be at least forty additional people on this meeting. [2:12:07, 2:12:12]: If the technical side had been um properly addressed. [2:12:12, 2:12:13]: Um [2:12:13, 2:12:17]: There's probably many people, and I've heard from people who have. [2:12:18, 2:12:22]: phone me. Um don't know how to get my phone number, but they have [2:12:22, 2:12:24]: And they've sent me emails. [2:12:24, 2:12:30]: And they've tried to reach out to me um in different means who actually do live in that area. [2:12:30, 2:12:35]: And although some of the people on this call uh in unincorporated [2:12:36, 2:12:39]: Those people who have tried to reach out to me. [2:12:40, 2:12:46]: more or less are within the Stockbridge city limits and their sentiments are exactly the same. [2:12:46, 2:12:47]: Um [2:12:47, 2:12:54]: Ms. Nelson is is dead on for me. Um, I agree with her and in her statement. [2:12:55, 2:12:56]: And um [2:12:56, 2:13:03]: We're really here to support our city, but the our priority is to make sure our citizens are comfortable. [2:13:04, 2:13:06]: And that their rights are not being stepped on. [2:13:06, 2:13:07]: And they're protected. [2:13:08, 2:13:10]: And and at this point. [2:13:10, 2:13:12]: I agree with Miss Nelson. [2:13:12, 2:13:14]: I am not конst. [2:13:15, 2:13:16]: that um [2:13:16, 2:13:20]: That traffic study, and I don't try to discredit anyone. [2:13:21, 2:13:21]: Because [2:13:22, 2:13:23]: I have [2:13:23, 2:13:25]: Since this project has started [2:13:26, 2:13:30]: have rolled out there in the mornings when the schools are are open. [2:13:31, 2:13:32]: The buses are running. [2:13:33, 2:13:34]: It's not at full capacity. [2:13:35, 2:13:38]: But I've also spoken with people in the community. [2:13:39, 2:13:42]: And their description of the traffic. [2:13:43, 2:13:46]: До знак компетик стаді стається. [2:13:49, 2:13:51]: So um at this point [2:13:53, 2:13:57]: Аж кантсі м'яс бин конвіст да десь. [2:13:57, 2:14:00]: exact for this particular area. [2:14:01, 2:14:04]: And I know we will vote on it later, but [2:14:04, 2:14:09]: I'm willing to listen to any comments from the board members and and [2:14:09, 2:14:11]: Taking consideration what [2:14:11, 2:14:13]: But the other members [2:14:13, 2:14:14]: Who are [2:14:15, 2:14:18]: Some are engineers, some have expertise in law. [2:14:19, 2:14:22]: Uh, some have expertise in real estate have to say. [2:14:23, 2:14:24]: And we can talk this out, uh [2:14:26, 2:14:35]: tonight and try to find some type of solution or resolution for this community because this community is really stressed out and they're hurting because of [2:14:36, 2:14:38]: the potential or the probability of [2:14:38, 2:14:43]: Грот із конаком. А хав ареанек сто май. [2:14:43, 2:14:45]: That's under Henry County and [2:14:46, 2:14:48]: They're pretty much doing the same thing. [2:14:49, 2:14:49]: And [2:14:50, 2:14:55]: I had no voice in it because I live in Stockbridge and not unincorporated. [2:14:55, 2:14:59]: So it it makes um it's it's disheartening. [2:14:59, 2:15:05]: when you're the actual people who live in those areas and you actually are feeling the impact. [2:15:06, 2:15:08]: of what's being done around you. [2:15:09, 2:15:11]: So I'll yield back to Miss Abdullah. [2:15:11, 2:15:12]: Mr. Platchard. [2:15:14, 2:15:15]: Mr. Platchard. [2:15:17, 2:15:18]: Yeah. [2:15:19, 2:15:19]: Mr Platchard. [2:15:20, 2:15:21]: Can you [2:15:24, 2:15:27]: What about is Dumas is d Mr. Dumas? [2:15:28, 2:15:32]: Yeah, sorry, it wasn't unmuting. I was trying to [2:15:32, 2:15:35]: You have any comments? Do you have any comments? [2:15:35, 2:15:38]: Um I'm just a big sponge right now. [2:15:38, 2:15:43]: soaking everybody's opinions in. Um, I would I kind of wanted to know from the [2:15:43, 2:15:47]: neighborhood if anybody was not against this development. [2:15:50, 2:15:54]: Because it it's easy to be against something when it's gonna interrupt your [2:15:55, 2:15:58]: ten acres you've been on for thirty years and and [2:15:58, 2:16:03]: You wanna keep it that way, well, it ain't gonna stay that way. You just have to get used to it. [2:16:04, 2:16:06]: But I just wonder if there was anybody around [2:16:06, 2:16:10]: who lives in one of the adjacent neighborhoods who actually was not [2:16:10, 2:16:12]: Afraid of this development. [2:16:16, 2:16:18]: Mr. Dumas, are you available? [2:16:19, 2:16:20]: I am, but I'm [2:16:20, 2:16:22]: I don't think you can hear me. [2:16:23, 2:16:26]: I can hear you. I can't see you. You do hear me. [2:16:26, 2:16:31]: Okay. Yes, I do. All right. Let me start by [2:16:32, 2:16:45]: Well first of all, let me just uh give Mr. Thibodeau his credits. Uh Miss Nelson had indicated that I made some comments. Uh it was actually Mr. Thibodeau and I think he deserves the credit for that, not me. [2:16:46, 2:16:48]: Oh I apologize. No problem. [2:16:48, 2:16:51]: Let me start by saying thank you. [2:16:52, 2:16:54]: to the citizens. [2:16:55, 2:16:56]: Who have [2:16:58, 2:17:05]: spoken out, they have made their voices heard. Um I've sat on this commission. [2:17:06, 2:17:13]: since its inception. And Mr. Chairman, you y I think you and I are the longest two uh members on this commission. [2:17:13, 2:17:14]: That's correct. [2:17:14, 2:17:20]: And it's very rare that when we have matters before us. [2:17:21, 2:17:25]: that we get this much public input. [2:17:25, 2:17:43]: Most of the times when we have matters before the board, it's only the applicant and the staff. And we have to make decisions in that vacuum with very little input in most cases. Not all, but most cases, with very little input from the community. [2:17:44, 2:17:56]: And I just want to thank you, all of you. I've I sat in on one of these Zoom meetings that was held by Battle Law. I've I've gotten your emails. I've read them. [2:17:57, 2:18:10]: And I just want you to know that when I first received my initial notification of this project, this proposed project, um I took the opportunity to ride out. [2:18:10, 2:18:23]: And and take a look for myself, which is what I do anyway. And Mr. Abdullah, you may recall that I made a phone call to you and you were doing work from home and we couldn't talk. But I had a lot of the same concerns. [2:18:24, 2:18:36]: that the community has uh that I've listened to and some of the same concerns that that I have, I had from day one, even before I heard from you all. [2:18:36, 2:18:40]: Um, but I do want you to know one thing. [2:18:42, 2:18:47]: The planning commission's vote, however it goes, is not the final vote. [2:18:48, 2:18:50]: The uh [2:18:50, 2:18:53]: Governing authority, the City Council of Stockbridge. [2:18:53, 2:18:58]: Mm-hmm. Will make the final decision up or down on this project. [2:19:04, 2:19:06]: I hope they listen to us. [2:19:07, 2:19:10]: They often do, sometimes they don't. [2:19:11, 2:19:13]: But I I just felt it important. [2:19:13, 2:19:22]: To let you know that your fight is not over, because our decision is not the final decision. It's only a recommendation to the council. [2:19:23, 2:19:24]: That's correct. [2:19:24, 2:19:32]: Then I'd like to say thank you to Mr. Cabelli, the developer and his staff and his [2:19:33, 2:19:37]: professional people that he's employed to work with him. Um [2:19:40, 2:19:44]: It it means something that someone wants to do business. [2:19:46, 2:19:50]: in and with the city of Stockbridge. I don't take that lightly. [2:19:52, 2:20:07]: And I appreciate what you all are doing. I I recognize and I've observed the flexibility that I've seen in making some adjustments and trying to address the concerns that you're hearing from people. Um [2:20:09, 2:20:13]: And I don't take that lightly as well. I appreciate [2:20:14, 2:20:16]: What you've done thus far. [2:20:19, 2:20:38]: And I sense that from the conversations that that you would like for for us to narrow our focus strictly on jurisdictional principles and focus on the communities that that lie to the west of this parcel in question. [2:20:42, 2:20:44]: But my concept of community [2:20:45, 2:21:01]: transcends imaginary jurisdiction alliance. I have to consider the whole community, uh those people to the west, those people to the north, those people to the south, and those people to the east. [2:21:03, 2:21:04]: They are all neighbors. [2:21:05, 2:21:08]: We all neighbors and to me it [2:21:09, 2:21:11]: It's like Brandon Road. [2:21:12, 2:21:15]: Could very well be the modern day Jericho Road. [2:21:16, 2:21:20]: And for us, I think we have to decide. [2:21:21, 2:21:23]: Do we want to function like the priest? [2:21:24, 2:21:27]: Do we want to function like the Levite? [2:21:28, 2:21:30]: Or do we want to function like the Samaritan? [2:21:33, 2:21:35]: And with that, I'm prepared to vote. [2:21:36, 2:21:40]: Thank you. Well thank you, Mr. Domus. I got a few comments. Um [2:21:41, 2:21:42]: Initially [2:21:43, 2:21:47]: I thought this would be easy. Why? Because they wanted to go from a um [2:21:48, 2:21:50]: uh RA to um [2:21:51, 2:21:53]: I believe it's a R four or R three. [2:21:54, 2:21:59]: It was had to be an R four because uh they uh ha have increased the lot size. [2:22:00, 2:22:06]: Uh to go from an R A to uh to a R four. That's horrible. That's spot zoning. [2:22:07, 2:22:17]: That would be spot zoning. In other words, you have a particular parcel of land that is uh uh not in compatibility with the adjoining piece of property and you just dropped [2:22:17, 2:22:21]: a rocket ship down in the neighborhood. That's what it would be Tanamount too. [2:22:22, 2:22:26]: And so they've adjusted that and they've gone from from R four to an R three. [2:22:26, 2:22:30]: Which makes it a little more palatable because uh uh [2:22:31, 2:22:34]: the c the uh subdivision across is R two and R three. [2:22:35, 2:22:37]: And so that's a doable concept. [2:22:37, 2:22:38]: In terms of zoning. [2:22:40, 2:22:50]: However, when you look at the uh the uh comprehensive zoning, one of the first things they point out in one point zero four zero zero purpose and intent. The purpose and intent of the zoning code is one [2:22:51, 2:22:55]: To promote health, safety, aesthetics, convenience, order, prosperity, and the general welfare. [2:22:55, 2:22:59]: Of the present and future residents of the city of Stockrid. [2:23:01, 2:23:02]: Remember that. [2:23:03, 2:23:08]: To promote the health, safety, aesthetics, convenience, order, prosperity, and general welfare [2:23:08, 2:23:11]: of the present and future residents of the city of Stockbridge. [2:23:11, 2:23:13]: B minimize congestion. [2:23:14, 2:23:15]: On the public streets. [2:23:17, 2:23:19]: Minimize congestion on the public streets. [2:23:20, 2:23:26]: Uh prevent overcrowding of land, avoiding both undue concentration of population and urban sprawl. [2:23:30, 2:23:31]: They got me. [2:23:32, 2:23:33]: They got me. [2:23:35, 2:23:38]: And so with those uh provisions in mind. [2:23:40, 2:23:42]: Well the project is a nice project. [2:23:42, 2:23:45]: Uh it creates a bit of hostility. [2:23:46, 2:23:51]: Because the things that I just cited to you, they're not being met. And they they they they probably can be met. [2:23:52, 2:23:53]: They probably can't be met. [2:23:54, 2:23:55]: Um [2:23:55, 2:23:57]: One of the things I thought the you know, uh [2:23:58, 2:24:03]: uh unincorporated stock breed, but unincorporated stock breeds is adjacent to uh [2:24:03, 2:24:08]: Uh uh unembra uh unicovery Hen County is adjacent to Stockbridge. [2:24:09, 2:24:15]: And I would think that if they were engaged in some kind of development that they would consider the residents of Stock Ridge proper. [2:24:18, 2:24:19]: And so uh [2:24:21, 2:24:22]: I would be [2:24:23, 2:24:32]: r I'd be reluctant to support something like this. So I mean the people have made I've got a stack of emails that I've printed out and read. [2:24:33, 2:24:36]: Almost a bookful of emails. [2:24:36, 2:24:43]: on a regular basis, that doesn't account the telephone calls that I received. And how they got my telephone number and email is beyond me. [2:24:43, 2:24:47]: But I've gotten emails every day from different people about this project. [2:24:48, 2:24:50]: And you have to take that in consideration. [2:24:50, 2:24:59]: These people are being adversely impacted. At least that's their concept. I don't know if it whether it's actual or not, but they believe they're being adversely impacted by this development. [2:25:00, 2:25:04]: And as uh members of the planning commission, I think we have to take [2:25:04, 2:25:05]: Um [2:25:05, 2:25:08]: their position and consideration. It just not [2:25:10, 2:25:12]: Completely disregard their position. [2:25:12, 2:25:19]: You know, uh as Mr. Doom has pointed out, ours is only a recommendation. It's not found, it's the city council that will make the found decision on this. [2:25:21, 2:25:22]: And so with that in mind. [2:25:23, 2:25:24]: Um [2:25:27, 2:25:35]: I'd like to entertain a motion. This is Dave Planchin. Let me just add one thing. Sure. The property owner itself. [2:25:35, 2:25:40]: Will always have the option to request it to be de annexed from the city of Stockbridge. [2:25:42, 2:25:44]: Correct. They have they have that option. [2:25:46, 2:25:49]: Correct. I mean, like I say, it's not over. [2:25:49, 2:25:50]: It's not over. [2:25:51, 2:25:52]: So [2:25:53, 2:25:55]: With that in mind, I entertain emotion. [2:25:55, 2:26:00]: I motion to deny this proposal at this particular time. [2:26:00, 2:26:02]: I don't feel like it's fitting for. [2:26:02, 2:26:03]: Our community. [2:26:04, 2:26:05]: And I second it. [2:26:07, 2:26:18]: All right, it's been moved by Miss Wallace and second by Mr. Thibodeau that the application be denied for uh the uh zoning of uh of uh what is the number? [2:26:27, 2:26:35]: What is it? RZ 2020 O two, Brandon Road redesign re-rezoning application uh then to deny. [2:26:37, 2:26:40]: Um all those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [2:26:41, 2:26:41]: Right. [2:26:42, 2:26:43]: Those opposed? [2:26:44, 2:26:48]: Hearing none, the eyes have the motion is carried, the application is denied. [2:26:51, 2:26:53]: Any other business? [2:26:57, 2:27:03]: Uh Mr. Abdula, uh this is Randy Knighton, city manager, if I may, make one announcement. Sure. [2:27:03, 2:27:13]: Thank you, sir. And all all as always, thank you to the Planning Commission for your great service. And of course, we appreciate the citizens and their input tonight. [2:27:14, 2:27:17]: I would like to uh mention to the Planning Commission and to those listening. [2:27:18, 2:27:21]: That on uh Tuesday evening the city council did confirm. [2:27:21, 2:27:25]: Uh my recommendation for a new community development director. [2:27:26, 2:27:28]: By the name of Breca Johnson. [2:27:28, 2:27:33]: She has extensive experience. Uh began much of her career in Henry County. [2:27:33, 2:27:36]: І за плана ОН і плана Тут Henry County was also. [2:27:37, 2:27:39]: Uh planning director at the city of Morrow. [2:27:39, 2:27:41]: And uh her most recent [2:27:42, 2:27:43]: Now position. [2:27:43, 2:27:46]: А з асистент коммуніти девелмент директор for [2:27:47, 2:27:48]: Clayton County. [2:27:48, 2:28:00]: Uh she has tremendous experience, um highly recommended, and I'm sure you will enjoy working with her. I look forward to her uh starting soon, uh probably sometime in mid-March. [2:28:00, 2:28:10]: And uh we look forward to uh the experience and knowledge, expertise that she will bring to the city of Stockbridge. And we look forward to you having an opportunity to meet her soon. [2:28:11, 2:28:13]: Thank you. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. [2:28:13, 2:28:14]: I think. [2:28:15, 2:28:18]: Having no other business, may I have a motion to adjourn? [2:28:21, 2:28:22]: Motion to adjourn. [2:28:23, 2:28:24]: And I second it. [2:28:25, 2:28:31]: Uh Ms. Wallace moves to adjourn the meeting. Mr. Thibodeau seconds. All those in favor, let it be known by the sign of aye. [2:28:32, 2:28:34]: Aye. Aye. Those opposed. [2:28:35, 2:28:37]: The eyes have it, the the motion is carried. [2:28:37, 2:28:46]: Thank you all. And um really appreciate everyone's input in this regard because this has been a really, really interesting piece. [2:28:46, 2:28:48]: They come before us. [2:28:48, 2:28:53]: Uh never have we had this much uh uh community input. [2:28:53, 2:28:59]: uh on a matter like this and i'm sure if we were meeting physically uh it would be jam packed out there. [2:29:00, 2:29:05]: And so uh for that reason I think we've been kind of blessed. But I can assure you that I have [2:29:07, 2:29:10]: ton of emails every day. [2:29:11, 2:29:15]: opposing this and how they got my email address and telephone number telephone number. [2:29:16, 2:29:18]: They've called less several times. I just don't [2:29:18, 2:29:20]: Respond. They just leave messages. [2:29:20, 2:29:38]: But uh I didn't think that was a good idea. Who so whoever gave them our per personal emails and telephone number, uh, you know, that that was really uh a a poor decision. But be that as it may, the people made themselves heard. And um I think our obligations with the people and I think we serve them. [2:29:39, 2:29:40]: And with that said. [2:29:40, 2:29:50]: I actually had a lot of concerns about the phone calls as well, and I actually reached out to uh Mr. Knight and asked him about the appropriateness of me responding. [2:29:50, 2:29:56]: And um definitely received guidance from him and the city attorney, which is much appreciated because [2:29:57, 2:30:06]: With the planning board, one thing that we are always fixed on is staying above board. And something that we definitely want to keep mindful. [2:30:07, 2:30:15]: Um like I was advised, citizens can talk to us about whatever they want to, but we have to be very careful and stay within the [2:30:15, 2:30:21]: Our our uh lanes when we're speaking to citizens because we don't want a preconcession that [2:30:22, 2:30:26]: Um decisions were made prior to the meeting and we actually [2:30:27, 2:30:40]: are able to hear the petitioner out and listen to both sides and clearly understand what's being put in front of us. But I definitely hope and pray that if there's another matter that comes in front of us that [2:30:40, 2:30:45]: Whomever may be involved at the citizen reach out as the Brandon Road residents did. [2:30:45, 2:30:56]: And let us get their true opinions. And and that way when it's all said and done, they know they've done their work and they know they were able to put their their story out there where we can hear it. [2:30:56, 2:31:02]: Stuckbridge is a great place to be and we want to keep it that way. And we certainly appreciate all the citizens. [2:31:02, 2:31:06]: Well one of the things, uh someone uh I don't know if Mr. Planchard [2:31:07, 2:31:10]: Brought up a ex parte uh encounter. [2:31:10, 2:31:24]: An ex parte encounter is when one side meets with a judge or other side without the benefit of having the opposition present. That is an ex parte meeting. Generally they're illegal, especially in the judicial arena. [2:31:24, 2:31:29]: But uh um again, I mean this was a good exercise all around. [2:31:30, 2:31:33]: All around. And like I said, I got [2:31:34, 2:31:42]: A book of emails. I mean, every day. Uh in fact the guy who said he wanna thank me, I have no idea who he is, but he did send me an email. [2:31:43, 2:31:49]: He had sent me an email, you know. So you know. Brilliant. He thanked us all. [2:31:50, 2:31:58]: Uh but uh beat it as it may. Emails are fine because you don't have to respond to them. I don't respond to'em. I don't confirm one with [2:31:58, 2:32:06]: Yep. A telephone call or somebody wants to have conversation with you about an issue is off the record. That's a no no. No that's a no no. [2:32:07, 2:32:11]: That is I remind them of that too. Yeah. Yeah. Well [2:32:12, 2:32:23]: I uh my policy is that uh I don't wanna respond to anything like that because you can probably say something that you didn't mean to say or they get the impression that you supporting them when you're not. [2:32:23, 2:32:35]: Uh, etcetera. So I don't respond to the telephone calls, I don't respond to the emails. But I do ex I I don't have any choice but to accept'em because they're there. Yeah. But uh [2:32:35, 2:32:38]: Miss Abdullah and you know. [2:32:39, 2:32:48]: You guys are very open. You have that open door approach to where if we have questions that we can come to you and and receive the clarification that we need. [2:32:48, 2:32:50]: And I definitely did. [2:32:50, 2:32:56]: depend on you all to get that clarification. So much appreciation is is a both out of the [2:32:58, 2:33:01]: Mr. Knight, may I ask you a question, please? [2:33:03, 2:33:04]: Mr. Knight. Yes, sir. [2:33:05, 2:33:09]: Um the issue about Councilman Alexander. [2:33:11, 2:33:21]: Uh that that that behavior is inappropriate for a councilman, you know. I mean I I um we're um I I've I've heard the comments uh that were rendered tonight. [2:33:22, 2:33:27]: Um and I will have the appropriate conversations. Obviously I don't want to get into anything [2:33:27, 2:33:33]: uh here with respect No, no, I'm just saying I'm just I just wanted to bring it out that that was [2:33:34, 2:33:36]: I inappropriate. In fact, that's him calling me right now. [2:33:37, 2:33:37]: And I've [2:33:38, 2:33:42]: I've heard the c I've heard I've heard the conversations this evening and uh the appropriate [2:33:42, 2:33:45]: Discussions and conversations uh will be had. [2:33:46, 2:33:46]: Okay. [2:33:47, 2:33:52]: Hey, all right. We had a good round. I think it was a good exercise. I mean, I think we did the citizens good, so [2:33:53, 2:33:54]: Good night. [2:33:55, 2:33:57]: Thank you. Bye bye.

--- title: Public Facilities Authority Meeting date: 2021-02-25 source: 2021-02-25_Public_Facilities_Authority_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:01, 0:00:03]: Okay, so [0:00:13, 0:00:15]: Okay, so we are now live. [0:00:17, 0:00:18]: All right. [0:00:19, 0:00:21]: And Jeremy should be jumping on in just a second as well. [0:00:21, 0:00:23]: Okay, sure, appreciate it. [0:01:06, 0:01:07]: Robert. [0:01:12, 0:01:14]: Mr. Copec, good morning to you, sir. [0:01:15, 0:01:16]: Good morning, Mayor Ford. [0:01:17, 0:01:32]: Hey, I want you to know, sir, that uh I've had conversations with uh Mr. Culpepper briefly this morning and he will not be on the meeting. So you are, sir, by our last meeting notes, uh, you which we have to prove today, you are the vice chair. [0:01:33, 0:01:37]: So I'll work with you to facilitate the meeting as best as possible, okay? [0:01:38, 0:01:39]: Yes, sir. [0:01:39, 0:01:40]: Right. Good deal. Thank you. [0:01:45, 0:01:46]: And actually uh [0:01:47, 0:01:56]: Actually, we actually now it's actually now nine o'clock. Actually, and we have a quorum, is my understanding, quorum is uh four. [0:01:57, 0:02:02]: And we have four members of the PFA online. [0:02:03, 0:02:10]: And since we are live, how you doing, Miss U Rainey? So since we have a quorum, we'll uh go ahead and get started. [0:02:10, 0:02:11]: Um [0:02:12, 0:02:18]: So Mr. Kopeck, if you don't mind, I will call the meeting in order at this point if that's good with you. Well since we have a quorum, is that good, sir? [0:02:18, 0:02:38]: Yes, sir. Okay. On that note, also I'll do a quick uh invocation as well. Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again for a wonderful meeting. Allow us to make good logical decisions for the betterment of our citizens and our city. Allow us to have straight, good dialogue if we continue to do the the best things for our community and going forward and helping. [0:02:38, 0:02:43]: help it grow and become a greater city than it is today. Be us always Lord in your name. Amen. [0:02:44, 0:02:45]: Yeah. [0:02:45, 0:03:05]: And we also have a pledge. So typically typically when we have our council meeting, we stand up, but I know Mr. Kopek is in his car. I don't want I know he can't stand up. So if you don't mind, we'll just go ahead and we'll say the um the actual pledge by sitting at this point, okay? I pledge allegiance to the United States of the United States. [0:03:05, 0:03:10]: America. And to the republic is staying legal staying. [0:03:10, 0:03:13]: One nation. Under nation under God. [0:03:14, 0:03:18]: Indivisible. Indivisible. Liberty. Liberty and justice for all. For all. [0:03:19, 0:03:35]: All right. Obviously it wasn't well coordinated. I didn't sit up and give hand signals and everything, but we got it done. Okay. Um I need a roll call. Uh roll call will be next. And uh Ms. Rainey, you're gonna do that for us? [0:03:37, 0:03:38]: Can't hear you. [0:03:44, 0:03:47]: Can I still can't hear Miss Rainey? Okay. [0:04:02, 0:04:05]: What about now? Can you hear me? Got you now. Good deal. Yes, ma'am. [0:04:06, 0:04:07]: Can you guys hear me? [0:04:07, 0:04:09]: Yes we can. Yes ma'am we can hear you. No. [0:04:10, 0:04:11]: No, we can hear you. [0:04:11, 0:04:14]: Okay, okay, she can okay. [0:04:15, 0:04:16]: I can't hear you though. [0:04:18, 0:04:18]: How about now? [0:04:19, 0:04:21]: Okay, well let me do the roll call. [0:04:21, 0:04:22]: Okay. [0:04:25, 0:04:27]: Um part of the agenda. [0:04:28, 0:04:30]: Mr. Abdullah. [0:04:35, 0:04:37]: Mr. Abdullah, is he here? [0:04:38, 0:04:41]: Mr. Abdullah on our planning commission. [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: Yeah, it is I can't hear. [0:04:43, 0:04:48]: Yes. Okay. Okay. I'll tell you what. She can't hear. So let let me let me let May Mayor Ford. I'll I'll do this. I'll do this. All right. [0:04:49, 0:04:51]: Uh therefore, obviously I'm present, okay? [0:04:51, 0:04:56]: So uh or or call pepper is not present. [0:04:56, 0:05:05]: Uh Miss Aldula is uh not online. Uh T Edwards Collins is not online. Uh Miss George is present. [0:05:06, 0:05:09]: And uh Miss Jones is present. [0:05:09, 0:05:18]: And a vice chair, which is Mr. Kopek, is also present. So it's four members of the PFA that are present. My understanding that a quorum is four. [0:05:19, 0:05:20]: Uh [0:05:20, 0:05:23]: So we can have a actual meeting in this case. [0:05:24, 0:05:25]: Okay. [0:05:25, 0:05:27]: Um now. [0:05:28, 0:05:46]: I would think that uh Rainey heard me, even though we couldn't uh I hope that she heard me. If not, uh I've got this written down of of who's present for this aspect. And uh Ms. Kopeck, uh please make note of who was present as well. Um the next thing would be to uh approve today's agenda. [0:05:47, 0:05:55]: Uh now what I like to do is make a motion to amend the agenda because what we have to do, folks, is we have to decide. [0:05:55, 0:05:59]: uh on our actual attorney that we want for uh the PFA. [0:05:59, 0:06:04]: So I'd like to make a motion to amend the agenda and have and if once that's approved, that that's approved. [0:06:05, 0:06:08]: Have that after we uh ha put that right after we have the [0:06:08, 0:06:11]: A reading of the approval of the minutes from our last meeting. [0:06:12, 0:06:13]: Is there a second? [0:06:14, 0:06:14]: Second. [0:06:15, 0:06:20]: Okay, uh mess I saw Mr. Kopek's hands. You know, he'll uh he's second that motion. Um [0:06:22, 0:06:42]: And then so what all in favor the mo all in favor of this motion, please indicate, raise your hand or speak. Okay, so I got a unanimous decision on that. Okay, fine. So what we'll do is we'll put that at the uh right after uh the um approval of the minutes from December 10th. Um but uh and then before we [0:06:42, 0:06:54]: talk about new business. Okay. And so what is next? And Miss Rainey, can you can you still speak or hear? Can you hear us? I can hear you, but I don't know if you guys can hear me. Yes, we can hear you. [0:06:54, 0:07:02]: Okay, the Okay, all right. So so uh now that you can hear it to so did you take copious notes of of the attendance and who was Yes. [0:07:02, 0:07:04]: You got everybody who's here, right? [0:07:04, 0:07:04]: Yeah. [0:07:05, 0:07:08]: We have four okay, good deal. So what's next would be the [0:07:08, 0:07:09]: approval [0:07:09, 0:07:21]: of the December 10th uh meeting minutes December 10th of 2019 was the last time uh that we met and unfortunately due to the pandemic and things of that nature. Uh so on that note [0:07:22, 0:07:37]: Uh I I I've m hope that you all already received all those minutes and that you read through them and are good with you. So I if that's the case, I need a motion to uh accept uh the uh minutes of December 10th, uh, 2019. [0:07:39, 0:07:39]: Yeah. [0:07:40, 0:07:42]: Okay, Ms. Kopeck, you making a motion on that, sir? [0:07:42, 0:07:46]: Yes, yes. Okay to accept the minutes. Okay. Is there is there a second? [0:07:49, 0:07:57]: Uh Miss Jones second then. Okay, fantastic. Okay. If there's no further discussion, all in favor of approving the minutes from December 10th, 2019, please indicate. [0:07:57, 0:08:17]: Yay, yay. Okay, it's unanimous decision. Fantastic. Okay. Now we'll now we'll talk in in reference the added uh thing here, item here would be in reference to the PFA attorney. Um now in the pre previously, as you had Cineminutes indicated, our attorney was our city attorney for the PFA was the actual city attorney. [0:08:17, 0:08:37]: Mike Williams. And um now what is what has occurred, Mike Williams is no longer the city attorney for the city of Stockbridge. Uh we've hired the city of Stockbridge, it's gone a different direction to hire a different law firm, Bail and Washington, um, in this aspect. Um, but it's up to the PFA if you wanted, even though must Mr. Williams has been familiar with the case and and and [0:08:37, 0:08:54]: and and and working with us, uh, it's up to the PFA whether or not you wanna retain uh Mr. Williams as an independent contractor attorney for the PFA or whether or not you wanna go with the city's attorneys, which is Bell and Washington, which we actually hired as the city attorneys two days ago. [0:08:55, 0:09:15]: And a recommendation for continuity purposes of this of the same process when we had our original city attorney with the PFA would be to go with Bell and Washington as the recommended choice at this time. But it is still up to the PFA to uh make that decision. Uh so I want there are four of us here as a quorum. [0:09:14, 0:09:30]: So I just want to get your ideas and thoughts on whether or not you want to go with the recommended recommended attorneys for the PFA as as for this as the city attorneys, or you want to remain as an independent attorney with Mr. Mike Williams. Any thoughts from yes, yes, Mike, go ahead, sir. [0:09:30, 0:09:44]: Um I just wanted to speak just briefly about that. Um normally normally I would I would suggest that for continuity, as you indicated, there's no reason to have a separate city attorney from the PFA attorney. [0:09:44, 0:09:49]: Um however in this case, you know, I've helped the team advance the ball down to the five yard line and [0:09:50, 0:09:53]: My uh request is that you allow me to uh [0:09:54, 0:09:58]: You know, run the ball over the goal line and and finish this project. [0:09:58, 0:10:11]: There's been a lot that's occurred to this point and there's still some things that need to be get done and I can assist the authority as well as the new city attorneys in finishing this out very smoothly. And so that's my request. [0:10:18, 0:10:38]: You your your own meeting mayor. Yeah, I just I just got it. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. I appreciate it. Um well well uh members of the PFA, I mean what what are your desires? What is your conversation? How how what did you wanna um do with this in this aspect? How do you wanna handle this? Do you wanna stay with Mike Williams or would you wanna go and actually our new attorneys are online right now if [0:10:38, 0:10:47]: if if they're selected, they'll remain online and and Mike would get off or vice versa. But I just wanted to ask you what what are your thoughts? There is a recommendation, but what are your individual thoughts? [0:10:50, 0:10:52]: Mr. Kopeck, is the vice chair, sir? What are your thoughts, sir? [0:10:53, 0:11:11]: My thoughts is uh Mr. Williams has had it, um, has done well with it. And I know his contract didn't get renewed with the city. Um, and then I also go with the recommendation. If the recommendation is to switch to law firms as long as there's you know, continuity, that would be the best uh idea is to follow the recommendation. [0:11:12, 0:11:18]: Okay, so you've you're saying you re follow recommendations, is what your your thoughts are there. Yes. Okay. All right. Ms. Jones, do you have any ideas and thoughts? [0:11:20, 0:11:22]: Um my idea is that um [0:11:23, 0:11:23]: Okay. [0:11:24, 0:11:27]: I I I can't can't can't hear can you turn up your volume, please? [0:11:28, 0:11:28]: Any down? [0:11:29, 0:11:31]: Uh uh could you turn up your volume, please? Okay. [0:11:39, 0:11:42]: Can you hear me now? Okay, so but that's better. Go ahead. [0:11:43, 0:11:47]: Um because of the wheels have problems with me with it. [0:11:49, 0:11:50]: Hello. [0:11:50, 0:11:51]: Okay. [0:11:51, 0:11:56]: Um I have a powerful I think possibly perfectly. [0:11:56, 0:11:57]: Okay. [0:11:57, 0:12:03]: I'm sorry, Ms. Jones. Somehow you you're coming in and out. I I've I've it's hard to hard to hard to hear you, hard to hear what you're saying. [0:12:03, 0:12:04]: Mr. Elson. [0:12:04, 0:12:05]: Is this better? [0:12:06, 0:12:10]: It's a little it's a little better now. I don't know if you're too far back initially or not, but [0:12:10, 0:12:12]: Now now I can't hear you. [0:12:13, 0:12:13]: Yeah. [0:12:13, 0:12:16]: Now now we can. If you stay yes. [0:12:16, 0:12:24]: All right, I was saying that because Mr. Williams has started with us and we are a uh a board, I I would like to continue to work with Mr. Williams. [0:12:25, 0:12:27]: We project in the [0:12:27, 0:12:31]: Now we can say uh he talked about that. [0:12:31, 0:12:32]: What? [0:12:33, 0:12:40]: Okay. So if I understand you right, Miss Jones, you would rather remain with Mr. Williams since he's had the project thus far. Okay. Miss George. [0:12:43, 0:12:44]: Excuse me, you are [0:12:44, 0:13:04]: Yes, sir. Mr. Ebbs. Uh Mr. I've been here the whole time, but for some reason I couldn't talk or anything. But I I was here even before you did the role. Uh but nonetheless, I just want to let you know I am present. I I had to keep logging off to finally get in. Thank you, Mr. Collins. I appreciate that. Uh Miss Rainey, uh could you note it's nine eleven and Mr. Collins has officially [0:13:04, 0:13:17]: join the meeting. Um and uh we're discussing our attorneys right now, uh Mr. Collins. So okay. I I've I've heard it all. I've heard the whole conversation. Since you since you are talking then sir, what are your what are your concerns? What do you what would you like to do? [0:13:18, 0:13:20]: Well uh what what would be [0:13:21, 0:13:25]: any alternative other and and understand that uh of course Mr. Williams is as [0:13:26, 0:13:30]: He's carried the ball as you said to the down to the five yard line, but uh [0:13:31, 0:13:32]: What would be [0:13:33, 0:13:37]: Is there any alternative there? And and that's a question. Is there is there uh [0:13:38, 0:13:42]: uh someone already capable of doing the work or some I mean [0:13:43, 0:14:03]: Well what it amounts to is that the the incoming let me answer this if I can. The inc our incoming law firm uh would be briefed up, has been briefed up and and willing to carry the ball if need be. If that's the decision of the of the public uh facilities authority, they can handle that. They'll be all right. But the point of it is is it's your decision as a group here, there's five of us here, and and whether what you will [0:14:03, 0:14:23]: want to do. I just wanted to uh make sure you understand it and you have you make the decision because it is your decision and and uh in this aspect so it's it's uh and I'm pretty sure all of all the attorneys that are here are very professional individuals so whatever the whatever the the PFA decides we'll move out and move forward and we'll keep and getting this job done. [0:14:23, 0:14:26]: So uh since we are talking, what what are your concerns, sir? [0:14:27, 0:14:35]: Well, no no real concerns other than uh if if if Mr. Williams has been has been paid for the job. [0:14:35, 0:14:39]: Then of course I think he should carry it across the good finish line, if not. [0:14:39, 0:14:41]: And if there is going to be a need to pay. [0:14:41, 0:14:46]: An additional attorney uh to come back and take over pick up where he left off. [0:14:46, 0:14:48]: And of course, I don't like that idea. [0:14:49, 0:15:06]: Okay. Well I I I don't I can't I can't really answer about the payment aspect of th uh thus far that I know off the top of my head, but I mean he Williams has been currently been working that, but the point of it is is whether or not the the the P PFA wants to change this or not or or change what the in if I I I I [0:15:07, 0:15:14]: Okay, then I I then vote to I keep Mr. Williams. Okay. All right. Uh okay. Uh Miss George, your thoughts, please. [0:15:15, 0:15:19]: Um good morning. Morning. Um I too uh had [0:15:20, 0:15:38]: uh questions about um I know that the new attorneys have been briefed up um by uh regarding the the work of the PFA, but um with regard to where we are in the process, I think it would probably be better for continuity to continue with Mr. Williams. [0:15:39, 0:15:40]: Okay. [0:15:40, 0:15:57]: So be it, if that's if that is the case. So uh we've had this discussion. Uh so let's uh let uh Mr. Copet, if if you don't mind, uh we'll put this to an official vote since everybody has spoken in this aspect on whether to retain uh Mr. Williams or go another way. Is that all right with you, sir? [0:15:58, 0:15:58]: Yes, sir. [0:15:59, 0:16:00]: Okay, so um [0:16:01, 0:16:02]: Um [0:16:02, 0:16:21]: I'll I'll tell you what, I'll I'll I'll make the motion this base. Uh I'll make a motion that uh that the PFA would uh retain Mr. Williams uh at this time to finish out this process uh for uh the bond issues that we're dealing with now and versus changing the attorneys. Is there a second to that motion? [0:16:23, 0:16:24]: Can Miss Jones seconds that motion? [0:16:24, 0:16:26]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:16:28, 0:16:48]: One, two, three. Okay. Uh Mr. Mr. LK4. All right. So so miss so in this case, Mr. Williams, based on the PFA making own independent decision, uh, you will retain be retained as an independent contractor to work with the PFA to work through the process of these bonds. And in the process of that, Mr. Washington and Jen. [0:16:48, 0:17:08]: Jeremy, uh Mr. Berry, um uh the PFA as you were listening, uh made this particular decision to move forward, Mr. Williams. Obviously, you you you will still have involvement. You're still our attorney for the city, and assassin will continue to be so for hopefully many, many years. Um so on that note, um I would I would think that um [0:17:08, 0:17:19]: I don't know if it's really necessary for you. I mean, I don't know if it's necessary for you gentlemen to be online. If you want to continue to be online, I imagine to be fine, but uh in this aspect, if you want to remain, because it deals with the city in this aspect as well. [0:17:20, 0:17:40]: Okay. Um on that note, Mr. Nighton, uh I uh I'd like for you to, if you can, sir, uh before we get a new business, if you can at least introduce uh our uh uh our uh Ed Wall and uh explain his position and things of this nature. And I see Mr. Doug Selby, I don't see him on unless he's on the telephone. [0:17:39, 0:17:55]: I don't see them online here. Um, but uh if you can uh introduce these gentlemen, please, if you can. Or the individual. Sure. Um Doug Selby, his uh bond counsel is not on currently on the line, but Ed Wall is Ed Wall is [0:17:55, 0:17:57]: Our financial advisor. [0:17:57, 0:18:02]: Um and uh he and Mr. Selby and their groups have uh structured everything as it relates to [0:18:03, 0:18:05]: uh the amphitheatre [0:18:05, 0:18:06]: Cultural Arts Center. [0:18:07, 0:18:08]: uh trail [0:18:08, 0:18:11]: програм and also uh the [0:18:11, 0:18:12]: At the [0:18:12, 0:18:14]: uh development of police department. [0:18:14, 0:18:16]: Bond financing. [0:18:16, 0:18:20]: The council has approved uh twenty five milyen dollars. [0:18:20, 0:18:23]: Um for uh the completion of the amphitheater. [0:18:24, 0:18:26]: Um for a cultural arts center. [0:18:26, 0:18:30]: Um and uh a trail uh program. [0:18:30, 0:18:33]: uh as well as the beginning of a police department. [0:18:33, 0:18:37]: Севен мільйон формтеатр комплечь. [0:18:37, 0:18:39]: Fourteen miljon for cultural art center. [0:18:40, 0:18:42]: One million for trail program. [0:18:42, 0:18:47]: And three million for the start of a police department, a city police department. [0:18:48, 0:18:49]: Which was approved by the council. [0:18:50, 0:18:56]: By virtue of that, the financial advisor and again the bond council have structured how those bonds [0:18:56, 0:18:59]: Three series of bonds a series A, B, and C. [0:18:59, 0:19:03]: Um, how that would be structured and how uh they could move forward. [0:19:03, 0:19:06]: based on interest rates and financing. [0:19:06, 0:19:10]: uh over the next uh several years, including about fifteen years total. [0:19:10, 0:19:15]: Mister Wall is here. Uh, he certainly can uh provide you with uh details. [0:19:16, 0:19:20]: Of what is being requested of you as a public facilities authority. [0:19:21, 0:19:23]: as it relates to uh bond financing. [0:19:24, 0:19:25]: Mr. Wall. [0:19:25, 0:19:30]: Thank you very much, Mr. Knight. And I see down at the bottom there's a 404-888 number. [0:19:30, 0:19:35]: That's uh hunt and curse number. Is that you, Ben, or is it Doug? [0:19:36, 0:19:37]: Whoever it is is on mute. [0:19:41, 0:19:43]: The eight eight eight four oh one seven. [0:19:47, 0:19:48]: How? [0:19:49, 0:19:58]: whoever it is they ain't showing themselves. But I think that's Hunt and Curse number. But anyhow, Doug Selby is a bond lawyer. He's drafted up the paperwork that you all are um [0:19:58, 0:20:15]: um to consider this morning. Uh I'm Ed Wall. I'm your financial advisor. Uh I handle uh crunching all the numbers and um finding the buyer for the bonds. Uh you have before you a bond resolution this morning to approve the issuance of three series of bonds. And um [0:20:16, 0:20:18]: We've uh sold them to Truist Bank. [0:20:18, 0:20:22]: And um the series A bonds are four year maturity. [0:20:23, 0:20:29]: Um it funds the amphitheater for seven million and two point eight million of the cultural arts center. [0:20:30, 0:20:33]: It's four year maturity because it's gonna be paid from splash to five. [0:20:34, 0:20:35]: And um [0:20:35, 0:20:38]: The interest rate on it is one point three two percent. [0:20:38, 0:20:42]: You have before you a series B bond issue for one million. [0:20:43, 0:20:47]: That bond issue is for the portion of the trail network. [0:20:47, 0:20:52]: It's four years payable from splos five. The interest rate's one point oh four percent. [0:20:54, 0:20:56]: And then you have a series C bond issue. [0:20:57, 0:21:00]: This the rest of the cultural arts center, eleven million in change. [0:21:01, 0:21:03]: It is three million for police equipment. [0:21:04, 0:21:08]: It is a fifteen year bond issue payable from the general fund. [0:21:09, 0:21:12]: It has an interest rate of two point five three percent. [0:21:13, 0:21:17]: And you have the right after five years to prepay it without any penalty. [0:21:17, 0:21:24]: And the reason we did it that way is when you vote splot six, you may want to include this project in splot six and pay it off early. [0:21:24, 0:21:27]: And we fixed it up so you would do it without any prepayment penalty. [0:21:28, 0:21:33]: And uh with that I'd turn it over to Mike who can talk about any specifics y'all might have. [0:21:34, 0:21:40]: Yeah, I'm it I'm Mr. Mayor Doug Selby is on the line now, too. How you doing, Mr. Selby? [0:21:40, 0:21:51]: I'm fine. I'm sorry. I was on the line, but you couldn't hear me for some reason. I was speaking and it just couldn't the audio didn't come through. So I joined another way. Thank you. Great. I thought it was you, Doug. [0:21:52, 0:21:57]: Yeah, I think Ben is on as well, but I think he may be in the same situation, can't speak for some reason. [0:21:58, 0:21:58]: Okay. [0:21:59, 0:21:59]: All right. [0:22:00, 0:22:12]: Is anything that right now? Mr. Mayor, I Okay, good. Doug is probably in a position to answer some of the questions that you may have. I would just observe that when we put the agenda together, we have the [0:22:12, 0:22:18]: uh individual series of bonds listed individually, but the bond resolution as drafted [0:22:19, 0:22:25]: Um covers all three series of bonds as well as the uh forms of the intergovernmental agreements with the city. [0:22:25, 0:22:26]: Um and and [0:22:27, 0:22:30]: the the it's structured as a lease agreement. So the [0:22:31, 0:22:34]: Title to the facilities will be in the name of [0:22:34, 0:22:45]: the public facilities authority, um, pursuant to a lease with the city and the and the lease payment obligations are sufficient to pay debt service on the bonds. And so [0:22:45, 0:22:52]: Um, all you will need is one vote on the bond resolution uh for this morning. [0:22:53, 0:22:53]: Okay. [0:22:54, 0:22:55]: All right, thank you for [0:22:55, 0:23:02]: What okay, so that'd be one vote for all okay, make sure I understand one vote for all three. Is that what you're getting? All right, Mr. Selby. [0:23:03, 0:23:13]: Did you add anything else, sir? Go ahead. No no, not nothing else to add other than uh, you know, the the resolution as as Mr. Williams has indicated would cover and approve. [0:23:13, 0:23:29]: uh the issuance of the bonds and the execution and delivery of intergovernmental agreements, each of which is attached to the bond resolution with the one vote. In terms of the process from this point forward, [0:23:29, 0:23:46]: Once this resolution is adopted, uh we would ask uh that we be able to work with the PFA attorney in commencing validation proceedings in the superior court. That will take approximately three weeks, after which time we'll be in a position to close. [0:23:47, 0:23:58]: Uh there'll be a series of closing documents and certificates that will have to be delivered. Um we'll need legal opinions, one from the city, one from DDA's council, and one from my firm. [0:23:58, 0:24:01]: А вели від респект то entire transaction. [0:24:01, 0:24:09]: There one series of these bonds is tax exempt. So there'll be a tax certificate that we'll also need to have executed and delivered. [0:24:09, 0:24:14]: But with that, um I you know I think this this resolution approves. [0:24:14, 0:24:22]: Final rates. So the rates that are set forth in the agreement are the ones that are going to be approved, and I'm available to answer answer any questions. [0:24:23, 0:24:29]: Absolutely. Uh thank you, Mr. Shelby and Mr. Wall, uh and and Mike here. Okay. So [0:24:30, 0:24:38]: Commission. I mean, do what kind of questions, Mr. Colpick, anybody questions you have for these gentlemen questions that you may have before we take this uh of official vote? [0:24:39, 0:24:42]: And questions of concerns, things that you may be unc uncertain about. [0:24:44, 0:24:52]: Yeah, on on bond C, the uh interest rates uh a little bit higher than the others. Is that because of the 15 year mark with the five year kick out? [0:24:52, 0:24:53]: Yes, sir. [0:24:53, 0:24:54]: That's it exactly. [0:24:57, 0:24:58]: Anybody else? [0:24:58, 0:25:13]: And the last thing step at the yield curve was flat throughout 2019, 2020. Starting in January, the yield curve started to rise. And so the long term is now a little bit higher than the short term. And you can see that's the difference between four years and 15 years. [0:25:18, 0:25:19]: Any other questions from the commission? [0:25:20, 0:25:23]: Before Ms. Jones, any questions or concerns that you have? [0:25:26, 0:25:28]: Ms. George, Mr. Collins, anything at all? [0:25:31, 0:25:32]: Okay. [0:25:32, 0:25:34]: Mr. Walls, Doug, anything else you need to add? [0:25:36, 0:25:37]: No [0:25:37, 0:25:38]: Nope no no mayor. [0:25:39, 0:25:41]: I think Mr. Robert had one more question. [0:25:42, 0:25:43]: Yeah, Cope. Go ahead, sir. [0:25:43, 0:25:47]: Yeah, reading through the trails, it said basically that um [0:25:48, 0:26:01]: entered in any agreement to make sure they're completed, but that we still would be able to make the pick the best person or get bids out on those. We're just not locked in the uh open checkbook on that, right? [0:26:02, 0:26:05]: Mike seems to be shaking his head, yes. Okay. [0:26:06, 0:26:06]: Okay. [0:26:07, 0:26:08]: I'm good then. [0:26:09, 0:26:09]: All right. [0:26:10, 0:26:25]: All right. So if there are no questions, no other questions, concerns, um, then we need a motion on the floor. And and Mike, could you draft that idea for that motion so we can get this accurate for everybody a clear complete understanding that Miss Rainey has it written down properly? [0:26:26, 0:26:36]: So Mayor, um a motion would be in order to adopt the bond resolution authorizing the issuance of the twenty twenty-one A, twenty twenty-one B, twenty-one. [0:26:37, 0:26:41]: Twenty twenty one C bond issues as presented to the PFA board this morning. [0:26:42, 0:26:43]: Okay. [0:26:44, 0:26:51]: So um I'll tell you what, since you made it, I'll say so moved. Okay. And then I need a second. [0:26:53, 0:27:03]: Uh okay. Ms. Mr. Copeck's hand was up quicker than yours, Mr. Collins. That's all there. Mr. Copec second that. Okay. Any further discussion at all on this on this at all? [0:27:04, 0:27:07]: No further discussion. All in favor of the of the uh motion, please indicate. [0:27:08, 0:27:12]: Okay, everybody's good? She now she says outstanding. All right. [0:27:12, 0:27:13]: Good deal. [0:27:13, 0:27:22]: Um that should make everybody pleased and happy as we move continue to move forward. Um, are there any other issues or concerns or things we need to do this morning? [0:27:22, 0:27:32]: Yes, Mr. Mr. Mayor, um I was remiss in uh offering uh my uh gratitude to the board for your continued uh confidence and I look forward to finishing this project. [0:27:33, 0:27:36]: Good deal. They hear you and they they um they acknowledge that, sir. Good deal. [0:27:37, 0:27:50]: Any other any other closing comments for anybody else before we adjourn the meeting? Because no need to go in the executive session. Uh Doug or Ed, anything else that we need to go before we we close out? No, sir. Very quick meeting. Uh okay. [0:27:50, 0:27:59]: Well, thank you, folks. I appreciate it. Uh like to adjourn the meetings. No other questions, we'll adjourn the meeting. It's roughly what uh uh I have nine twenty six. So outstanding. [0:27:59, 0:28:04]: God bless y'all. We're gonna continue forward. All right, thank you. I mean bye brother. Goodbye. [0:28:04, 0:28:05]: Thank you.

--- title: February 23 2021 Work Session Meeting Via Zoom date: 2021-02-23 source: 2021-02-23_February_23_2021_Work_Session_Meeting_Via_Zoom.wav --- [0:00:28, 0:00:30]: Mr. Washington. [0:00:31, 0:00:34]: Doing well, so how are you? Good, good, good, good. [0:00:34, 0:00:36]: Okay, no. [0:00:36, 0:00:38]: We gotta get [0:00:41, 0:00:42]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [0:00:42, 0:00:44]: I'm gonna go back to it. [0:00:45, 0:00:46]: Uh let me let me [0:00:47, 0:00:49]: See if I [0:01:32, 0:01:32]: [132.3, 134.4]: Uh Mr. Blount's online. [0:02:15, 0:02:15]: Good evening. [0:02:16, 0:02:17]: Yes. [0:02:37, 0:02:42]: All right, just so everybody knows we are at this point streaming live on Facebook. [0:02:43, 0:02:47]: And before we formally before we formally start the meeting, we are live now. [0:02:47, 0:02:48]: Okay. Thank you, sir. [0:03:04, 0:03:07]: Remember Timma's online and Mr. Aaron's present. [0:03:10, 0:03:15]: Now I am I to assume that uh Mr. Williams needs to be present for this meeting to start? [0:03:17, 0:03:18]: Is that my assumption? [0:03:19, 0:03:24]: Uh I don't think so, Mayor. Um we've had that discussion and um [0:03:26, 0:03:30]: Mr. Washington and Mr. Berry will will carry forward with the uh [0:03:31, 0:03:32]: uh council's approval. [0:03:35, 0:03:35]: All right. [0:03:36, 0:03:53]: Well, if that's a note, then uh I have six o'clock and we actually have a quorum. Uh so I'd like to call this uh council meeting, council work session actually, uh February twenty-third uh to order. And on that note, uh invocation. Mr. Blount, please. [0:03:54, 0:03:54]: Yes. [0:03:56, 0:04:00]: Dear Heavenly Gracious Father, we come to you thanking you first of all for your grace and we thank you for your mercy. [0:04:01, 0:04:05]: We ask that you would meet us right here, right now, Heavenly Father, that you would be [0:04:05, 0:04:09]: The footstep that would guide our choices today. Let us do those things that are [0:04:09, 0:04:12]: Pleasing in your sight that are beneficial to our city. [0:04:12, 0:04:16]: Let us heavenly father continue to work for the citizens, heavenly father have elected us. [0:04:17, 0:04:20]: To be a part of this great city called Stockbridge. [0:04:20, 0:04:25]: We thank you, Heavenly Father, for each and every one, Lord. And we will ask you right now in the name of Jesus, Heavenly Father, [0:04:26, 0:04:27]: In the midst of all the [0:04:27, 0:04:33]: Things that we have discussed and will discuss and then we'll talk about God, that you will look upon this world, Heavenly Father, and heal it. [0:04:33, 0:04:36]: That you will heal the sickness, that you will heal the pain. [0:04:36, 0:04:40]: Continue to be with us and continue, continue to keep us, Lord. And it's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen. [0:04:41, 0:04:44]: Amen. Uh please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:04:45, 0:04:46]: Mm-hmm. [0:04:47, 0:05:01]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, one God, individual, with liberty and justice for all. [0:05:03, 0:05:05]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:05:11, 0:05:13]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:05:13, 0:05:15]: Mayor Pro Tem Alexander. [0:05:15, 0:05:16]: Present. [0:05:17, 0:05:18]: Councilwoman Barber. [0:05:18, 0:05:19]: I think [0:05:20, 0:05:21]: Councilman Blount. [0:05:22, 0:05:22]: Present. [0:05:23, 0:05:24]: Councilwoman Gantt. [0:05:26, 0:05:26]: Present. [0:05:27, 0:05:28]: Councilman Thomas. [0:05:29, 0:05:29]: President. [0:05:30, 0:05:31]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [0:05:32, 0:05:34]: Thank you, appreciate that, Madam Clerk. [0:05:34, 0:05:37]: Council, I need a motion to to adopt the agenda. [0:05:37, 0:05:39]: Uh Councilman Blount, please. [0:05:40, 0:05:42]: Uh Mayor, I'd like to amend agenda. [0:05:43, 0:05:48]: Uh to include uh Zeker's session at the end of the final [0:05:49, 0:05:50]: Um [0:05:51, 0:06:02]: uh at the end of the uh final piece on the agenda to include litigation and personnel and litigation matters uh to include those matters pertaining to uh barbecue masters. [0:06:02, 0:06:03]: Okay, is there a second? [0:06:04, 0:06:05]: I second. [0:06:05, 0:06:13]: Okay. Obviously this is something very important we need to discuss and we have some new attorneys with us at this point as well. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:06:16, 0:06:17]: All posed. [0:06:19, 0:06:28]: Okay. We'll go into second session to talk about these particular issues and that would be uh after our discussion. So it'll be point number six. Okay. [0:06:30, 0:06:31]: On that note [0:06:33, 0:06:38]: Yeah, come before my c comments, uh my comments at the end there. On that note. [0:06:39, 0:06:49]: We have to review the minutes for the following meetings. That would be the uh January eleventh council meeting, the uh January 15th special call meeting. [0:06:49, 0:06:59]: And then the January 26th council work session. Please review those minutes and the next time we meet officially as a council meeting, we'll go ahead and improve those. [0:06:59, 0:07:00]: All right. [0:07:00, 0:07:03]: Uh Madam Clerk, any public comments at all? [0:07:04, 0:07:14]: There were no public comments submitted. Okay. Uh new business. Council consideration to approve FY2022 LMEG list. [0:07:14, 0:07:16]: Mr. Aaron, please. [0:07:16, 0:07:17]: Mayor Ford, if I may. [0:07:17, 0:07:18]: Yes, sir. [0:07:18, 0:07:24]: I think it might be appropriate for the council uh uh to um officially [0:07:25, 0:07:26]: Um approved. [0:07:27, 0:07:32]: Of the firm of Bell in Washington to provide uh legal services for the city. [0:07:32, 0:07:38]: As okay before we begin. Oh sorry for missing missing that. I'm just moving right along. You're absolutely right. I'm gonna blame it on the gray hair. [0:07:39, 0:07:40]: I'm getting too old to remember these things, right? [0:07:41, 0:07:42]: Anyway, inside joke, right? [0:07:43, 0:07:59]: All right, council. I'm sorry about that. We need a motion to adopt uh bell in Washington and uh as our legal counsel. Is there a motion for that? So move. I second Alexander. Ms. Gantt second that. Uh all in favor, please indicate. [0:08:01, 0:08:15]: Nancy says okay. Um thank you, Mr. Knight. On that note, gentlemen, uh just take a moment to before we get into the agenda. Mr. Aaron, stand by. Mr. Washington, how about any any c initial opening comments for us or the listening audience at this time, sir? [0:08:18, 0:08:20]: You're you muted, sir. You you muted. [0:08:21, 0:08:39]: Thank you all for having us. My name is Quentin Washington and I look forward to meeting with each one of you all to advance the agenda for the city of Stockbridge. I'm a former judge in Fulton County where I sat in Majesty Court for the last three years and I have a private firm, Bell in Washington, which is, I guess, over here. [0:08:40, 0:08:43]: And we're coming up on fifteen years as being a minority owned firm. [0:08:44, 0:08:48]: And Jeremy Berry is one of my classmates who's a former city attorney for the city of Atlanta. [0:08:48, 0:08:51]: was agreed to help out on this project. [0:08:51, 0:09:02]: And we look forward to being able to work with you all. And anytime you need anything, I'll be scheduling meetings with each one of you all to just talk, say hello, give you a bit of my background, but at four [0:09:02, 0:09:07]: Uh brevity's sake, I am a native Georgian from the city of Wanna Robbins, Georgia, south of here. [0:09:08, 0:09:28]: I am an undergraduate of Florida AM University. I did my master's at the Kennedy School of Government and Public Policy. And I went to law school at Emory University. And I have spent all of my legal career here. And I've advised cities from the Georgia Municipal Association as a member of the African-American or the Black Mayors Association. [0:09:28, 0:09:38]: and the Georgia County elected the Georgia County black officials. And I look forward to using my experience to help work for the city of Stockbridge. So thank you all so much. [0:09:38, 0:09:42]: Thank you, sir. Jeremy, how about you, sir? Any opening comments? Thank you, sir. [0:09:42, 0:09:50]: Thank you, Mayor and members of council. Uh I'm a delighted and honored to be here tonight and to be part of the team with Bell in Washington. So thank you very much. [0:09:51, 0:10:00]: Uh just a brief background. I went like Quentin to Emory University School of Law, graduated in 2003, so been practicing about 17 and a half years. [0:10:00, 0:10:03]: I've been you know, I was with McKenna long an Aldridge. [0:10:03, 0:10:07]: Uh which became Denton's the largest law firm in the world. [0:10:07, 0:10:13]: City of Atlanta, uh then with a smaller firm, Hilliard Starkey, and now with another firm, Chilovis Grubman. [0:10:13, 0:10:20]: Dalby and Warner. My my practice is extensive, a lot of experience in government and government contracts, procurement. [0:10:20, 0:10:21]: uh local government issues. [0:10:22, 0:10:29]: And I I look forward to working with each of you and and when we can safely uh look forward to meeting each one of you in in person. [0:10:29, 0:10:36]: And I again appreciate the opportunity to work with y'all and uh look forward to a a long and productive relationship. [0:10:36, 0:10:53]: Thank you, gentlemen, both. And uh congratulations and uh we'll make it long and prosperous for us all as you uh have our legal counsel. Okay. Um now back to you, Mr. Aaron. Uh approval of the FY twenty two of FY twenty twenty two L Meg, please list. [0:10:54, 0:11:02]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. We come before you tonight asking for mayor and council's approval of the FY twenty twenty twenty twenty-two LMIG list. [0:11:02, 0:11:08]: This is the first list from the revised role evaluation that we had done in 2018. [0:11:08, 0:11:09]: And it also [0:11:10, 0:11:27]: uh includes two major roads, Davison Parkway and Old Atlanta Road. We'll also be the first time that we ref resurface streets in carriage lakes. You know, we annexed that I think in 2017. So we'll get two roads in carriage lakes. We'll have two roads in [0:11:27, 0:11:33]: Willow Springs, uh Willow Springs Lane and Sage Court, which are both definitely in need of resurfacing. [0:11:34, 0:11:37]: We'll also have two roles in Monarch Village and we'll also [0:11:38, 0:11:43]: include the legends and I think this is every street in the legends will be [0:11:43, 0:11:46]: resurfaced under the twenty twenty two L me. [0:11:47, 0:11:48]: Okay, fantastic. [0:11:49, 0:11:53]: Council, any questions for Mr. Aaron and or uh Mr. Knighton? I'm sorry, sir. [0:11:54, 0:12:12]: No, I I I was just going to add is as you all know, this is done through an independent grading system, if you will, to determine which roads uh would be on the resurfacing list. So it's not something that's arbitrary, it's something that goes through an analysis to determine uh which roads would be resurfaced. [0:12:12, 0:12:15]: All right, fantastic. Mr. Blount, go ahead, please. [0:12:17, 0:12:28]: Mr. Aaron, you said that the uh list been revised. Is when was the last time the revisions happened and do we have are we able to get a copy of the revisions that was put on the uh the uh list? [0:12:29, 0:12:35]: Mayor and council should have a copy, but I resend that list. This was done in two thousand and I think eighteen. [0:12:36, 0:12:41]: When uh it was requested we do a streets and sidewalk assessment and both of those were done. [0:12:42, 0:12:50]: So there's no new revision since 2018 approval, what you're saying? No, sir. Okay. No, I'm fine, and I got I have that. Thanks. [0:12:52, 0:12:53]: Any other questions from Mr. Aaron? [0:12:53, 0:12:57]: But if anyone needs a copy, I'll send it to the city manager. [0:12:58, 0:12:58]: The same. [0:13:00, 0:13:06]: Thank you. Another question from Mr. Aaron. Then I uh council need a motion to accept this particular list, project list. [0:13:06, 0:13:07]: Tamo. [0:13:07, 0:13:08]: Is there a second [0:13:09, 0:13:10]: Okay. [0:13:10, 0:13:11]: Okay. [0:13:12, 0:13:24]: Ms. Gantt had her hand up. She wasn't speaking and mayor potem. So Blount again. Okay. All right. Good deal. All in favor the I imagine there's no more discussion. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:13:25, 0:13:34]: Okay, it's unanimous decision. Outstanding. Okay. Uh discussion purposes here. Propose aquatic center. Mr. Knighton, please. Why don't you start this off? [0:13:36, 0:13:44]: Sure. Uh Mayor and Council, as you know, um there's been some recent discussion about the location of aquatic center, which was approved. [0:13:44, 0:13:53]: Via SPLOST 5. Again, uh citizens' voters approved a SPLOSS list, which included an aquatic center, approximately$25 million. [0:13:53, 0:13:56]: Uh the uh discussion has centered upon [0:13:57, 0:14:01]: right now with the county, uh a potential location for the aquatic center. [0:14:02, 0:14:05]: I provided you with a list of an assessment from a consultant. [0:14:06, 0:14:09]: That was hired to assess various locations. [0:14:09, 0:14:12]: The preferred location, uh, as you can see from the consultant. [0:14:13, 0:14:16]: was for the Jodico Bridges at Jodico site. [0:14:17, 0:14:19]: Um the uh [0:14:19, 0:14:20]: Developer of the site. [0:14:21, 0:14:24]: uh essentially has consented to donating [0:14:24, 0:14:27]: the land for uh the aquatic center. [0:14:28, 0:14:30]: uh to be developed and constructed. [0:14:30, 0:14:31]: on said site. [0:14:32, 0:14:39]: Uh a few weeks ago, uh the uh mayor provided a letter with support, of course, from the rest of the members of the council. [0:14:40, 0:14:43]: Uh to uh Chair Harrell to Henry County. [0:14:44, 0:14:45]: Uh, providing support. [0:14:45, 0:14:50]: for the aquatic center to be located at the Bridges of Jodeco site. [0:14:50, 0:14:53]: Since that time there have been some discussions uh by the county. [0:14:54, 0:14:55]: And at a previous meeting it was [0:14:56, 0:14:59]: plan to be discussed however that county meeting was [0:14:59, 0:15:03]: cancelled. It is my understanding that uh the next meeting on March the ninth [0:15:04, 0:15:07]: uh for the county commission will entail a discussion. [0:15:08, 0:15:09]: Аботві локація. [0:15:10, 0:15:13]: uh the decision about the location [0:15:13, 0:15:15]: of the proposed aquatic center. [0:15:16, 0:15:22]: Again, the city's position uh via conversation and via letter from Mayor Ford. [0:15:22, 0:15:24]: Is that the location should be? [0:15:24, 0:15:26]: At the bridges of Jodeco site. [0:15:26, 0:15:28]: Located in the city limits. [0:15:28, 0:15:32]: Of Stockbridge and maintained in the city limits of Stockbridge. [0:15:33, 0:15:36]: Um at this point in time there is not a [0:15:36, 0:15:40]: Schematic or concept that I'm aware of of the aquatic center. [0:15:40, 0:15:43]: Um once a location is determined. [0:15:44, 0:15:48]: then a more definitive uh concept plan andor [0:15:48, 0:15:51]: depiction of what the co the aquatic center would entail. [0:15:52, 0:15:56]: uh would be determined again based on uh size of property, location, etcetera. [0:15:57, 0:15:58]: Um [0:15:58, 0:16:02]: Obviously uh the aquatic center is located in the city limits of Stockbridge. [0:16:02, 0:16:05]: And stock which would by virtue of that [0:16:05, 0:16:07]: Have certain responsibilities. [0:16:07, 0:16:10]: With respect to uh the aquatic center. [0:16:10, 0:16:16]: Of course, discussions um as you know, uh may center around what that looks like uh for a [0:16:17, 0:16:20]: Aquatic center to be located in the city of Stockbridge. [0:16:20, 0:16:23]: Then ultimately constructed by Henry County. [0:16:23, 0:16:26]: I have indicated to the county manager. [0:16:26, 0:16:33]: Um in that uh the city by virtue of Mayor Ford's letter supportive again of the location. [0:16:33, 0:16:37]: And certainly would be willing to uh have open discussions and dialogue. [0:16:37, 0:16:41]: uh with respect to uh the location of the aquatic center. [0:16:42, 0:16:43]: And working with the county to ultimately [0:16:44, 0:16:46]: Place the aquatic center. [0:16:46, 0:16:48]: On the Joteco site. [0:16:49, 0:16:50]: Um [0:16:51, 0:16:56]: That's all I would mention at this point in time, Mayor Ford. I'm sure that uh council members may want to discuss this matter. [0:16:57, 0:17:00]: Um and uh have some form of dialogue. [0:17:00, 0:17:02]: With respect to [0:17:02, 0:17:05]: uh the status of the aquatic proposed aquatic center. [0:17:06, 0:17:08]: Reverable Tim Alezana, go ahead, please, sir. [0:17:09, 0:17:12]: Uh thank you so much, Mr. Knighton, for your presentation and [0:17:13, 0:17:33]: Uh wholeheartedly I support the the Jodeco location. Uh I did see a schematic uh of what the aquatic center would look like uh presented at a previous uh meeting. I think it may have been uh for another location, but in terms of what it was supposed to look like, there is a schematic that actually exists. [0:17:33, 0:17:34]: For what it looks like. [0:17:35, 0:17:39]: Uh moreover than that, what I want to speak to is [0:17:39, 0:17:40]: Uh [0:17:40, 0:17:41]: What I'm hearing from the public. [0:17:42, 0:17:43]: Again and again. [0:17:44, 0:17:46]: Is that they want to see us work together. [0:17:47, 0:17:53]: Uh too often in the past the county and the city cities have uh had issues or they've been at odds. [0:17:53, 0:17:56]: But the public just wants us to roll up our sleeves. [0:17:56, 0:18:00]: and work together collaboratively for the benefit [0:18:01, 0:18:01]: Of everyone. [0:18:02, 0:18:03]: To me. [0:18:03, 0:18:07]: The Johtaco Aquatic Center represents just that. [0:18:07, 0:18:08]: A grand opportunity. [0:18:09, 0:18:16]: where all of us, county and city, can once and for all show the public that we're putting them first. [0:18:16, 0:18:19]: Not the city first, not the county first. [0:18:19, 0:18:20]: Them first. [0:18:20, 0:18:23]: The recommendation was very strong from the consultant. [0:18:24, 0:18:26]: Uh on the uh on the information that I read. [0:18:27, 0:18:34]: The Jodico was a shovel ready project, ready to go right now. The infrastructure was already in, the grounds have been cleared. [0:18:35, 0:18:36]: It was the clear cut favorite. [0:18:37, 0:18:39]: In my conversations with [0:18:39, 0:18:40]: Uh, commissioners. [0:18:40, 0:18:43]: I've been told that they support this particular site. [0:18:43, 0:18:45]: Uh wholeheartedly. [0:18:45, 0:18:47]: And uh that they want to work with the city. [0:18:47, 0:18:51]: Now the proof is in the pudding where we all sit down. [0:18:51, 0:18:52]: Work together. [0:18:52, 0:18:58]: I understand for them this is a very important project. It's an important project for all. [0:18:58, 0:19:04]: Not only am I a city council member in the city of Stockbridge, I'm a Henry County resident as well. [0:19:04, 0:19:06]: I cast the ballot for commissioner. [0:19:06, 0:19:08]: I cast a ballot for city. [0:19:08, 0:19:13]: And I and I want everybody to sit down and to be able to work together. [0:19:13, 0:19:14]: uh in harmony. [0:19:14, 0:19:17]: Because this one right here is a no brainer. [0:19:17, 0:19:23]: where all of us should be able to work together, provide this location that is centrally located. [0:19:23, 0:19:30]: along I seventy five, spurring economic development where we want to drive it along I seventy five. [0:19:31, 0:19:31]: I would hope. [0:19:32, 0:19:36]: Again, that all of us could sit down at the table and we understand that [0:19:36, 0:19:39]: This is a a twenty milyen dollar plus project. [0:19:40, 0:19:41]: And uh mi personally. [0:19:42, 0:19:50]: I don't have any problem with uh Henry County uh controlling the project because they're the major investor, as we would do. [0:19:50, 0:19:55]: with any entity coming into the city to be able to control their project. [0:19:56, 0:19:57]: They bring in a city. [0:19:57, 0:20:00]: A project inside our city limits. [0:20:00, 0:20:02]: So as the property owner [0:20:02, 0:20:05]: Which the land would be donated to them by the developer, I understand. [0:20:06, 0:20:08]: They would have control over the project. [0:20:08, 0:20:11]: And it would be it would behoove us to work with them. [0:20:11, 0:20:14]: uh in every instance to allow them to build [0:20:14, 0:20:21]: the best facility possible. So I certainly wholeheartedly support that and whatever we need to do, in my opinion. [0:20:22, 0:20:27]: We should do that to work together to bring this aquatic center to the city of Stockbridge. Thank you. [0:20:28, 0:20:40]: In the thank you, sir, in the actual letter that uh you all um allowed me to write and sign off and get your approval, it talked about the fact that uh that we had a a joint agreement uh at the sense that this would be a great site. [0:20:41, 0:20:44]: And also the fact that uh we look forward to developing [0:20:44, 0:20:46]: in a governmental type of agreement. [0:20:47, 0:20:48]: That we will review. [0:20:49, 0:20:54]: And uh that uh eventually myself along with Chair Hurrel will sign off on, but obviously [0:20:54, 0:21:02]: I personally won't sign off on until you all look at it and you approve that we got a consensus to approve all the outlines or details of that agreement. So I look forward to that. [0:21:02, 0:21:15]: that agreement and sharing that obviously with the rest of the council and staff and and continuing uh uh the coordination uh with Chair Harell and all the commissioners on this particular particular project uh for uh the citizens of Henry County. [0:21:15, 0:21:21]: Uh so I I would say we're all in, but uh any other comments uh that anybody may want to have on this particular issue? [0:21:22, 0:21:25]: Discussion. Uh Councilman Thomas, go ahead, sir. [0:21:25, 0:21:29]: I just want to echo the sentiment of uh Mayor Pro Tem and yourself. [0:21:30, 0:21:32]: Uh I am фейvr ін фейвер. [0:21:32, 0:21:44]: Um, as Mr. Knighton alluded to, the uh IGA, I just think we just need to sit down and and and you know, hash out, you know, all of the details, but uh I am totally in favor of this location. [0:21:45, 0:21:47]: Thank you, sir. Anybody else? [0:21:49, 0:21:50]: Okay. [0:21:50, 0:21:52]: Yeah, yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [0:21:53, 0:22:00]: Well, I was I was wanting to wait to hear from uh some of the other council members and see whether or not they had anything to say, but it looks like we have um [0:22:01, 0:22:03]: uh unanimous consent on this. [0:22:03, 0:22:04]: Синь ассет. [0:22:05, 0:22:07]: What I'd like for us to do is to consider [0:22:07, 0:22:22]: just uh indicating to the council uh in a resolution that we certainly would like to support uh the Jodico location uh via an IGA with an official vote of the council. [0:22:22, 0:22:27]: The letter uh came through you, Mary. It was a great job, it was a great s a great initial step. [0:22:27, 0:22:40]: But for us to take the next step and actually vote uh on a resolution where the council can clearly state and go on the record that we s we uh are basically codifying everything that you put. [0:22:40, 0:22:42]: Uh in your letter with the city council vote. [0:22:43, 0:22:50]: I s suggest that we do that. So I'd like to make a motion for us to have uh a city resolution. [0:22:50, 0:22:52]: That states that we [0:22:52, 0:22:54]: The city of Startbridge fully support. [0:22:55, 0:22:57]: The bridges are Jodico location. [0:22:57, 0:22:59]: For the Henry County Aquatic Center. [0:22:59, 0:23:01]: And we would like to accomplish that through that. [0:23:02, 0:23:05]: to an intergovernmental agreement that will be put forth. [0:23:05, 0:23:07]: uh by Henry County and negotiated. [0:23:07, 0:23:13]: uh uh with the city. I just want to make that official through a vote. So I certainly like to make a motion for that. [0:23:14, 0:23:21]: I second you'll give you second. Well, Miss Barber, I think, had her hand up to second that. That's what I have here. Is that right, Miss Barber? Is that what you do? [0:23:22, 0:23:26]: Okay. You unmuted. Were you you have something you needed to add, Miss Barber? Something else you want to say? [0:23:26, 0:23:28]: No? You good? [0:23:28, 0:23:32]: Okay, all right, good deal. Ms. Gan. [0:23:33, 0:23:52]: Anything else? No, I think it's excellent. I'm excited. Um, I think that the community is waiting on this. There's been a lot of talk on the product center. I think it's an excellent location. I'd like to thank um Jeff Grant, along with anyone else who and and um our Madam Chair. [0:23:52, 0:23:54]: Uh Carlotta Harel? [0:23:55, 0:24:01]: for meeting and collaborating and coming to Mayor and Council with this great idea. And so [0:24:01, 0:24:08]: um and all of the rest of the county commissioners, I would like to thank them and hope in advance for their support as well. So [0:24:08, 0:24:09]: That's it. [0:24:09, 0:24:13]: Okay, good deal. If there's no the cop I'm sorry, Ms. Bla uh Mr Blount, go ahead, please. [0:24:15, 0:24:21]: Yeah, I I wanted uh to um just piggyback on those sentiments uh myself and um [0:24:21, 0:24:25]: And thank you, Ms. Collada Morrell, uh Council uh Chairman. [0:24:25, 0:24:27]: Colonerail. Uh she's um [0:24:27, 0:24:35]: She's definitely been an asset to this county uh since she's taken office. And I've seen her um just reach across. [0:24:36, 0:24:46]: reach across every line that I've seen since she's been in office and uh I'm I'm I'm proud to see her making a difference in the uh in in Henry County. And I just wanna say uh [0:24:46, 0:24:49]: Uh I I thank her for what she's doing with the county. [0:24:50, 0:24:50]: Okay. [0:24:51, 0:24:55]: If there's no other comments, I'll call for the vote. So all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:24:56, 0:25:16]: Okay, so nanos decision. Thank you very much. Okay, now we're going to go into executive session. So, Ms. Holliday, I would imagine you need to send all of us, the uh the attorneys and uh the council members um in this aspect uh connectivity to uh the for the executive session to uh talk over some legal matters. [0:25:16, 0:25:17]: Okay. [0:25:18, 0:25:20]: And uh in this aspect. [0:25:22, 0:25:25]: You're able to do that? Yes, I just need the vote to enter. [0:25:27, 0:25:33]: Excuse me. Yes, yeah, hold on a second. You need a vote to enter. I don't I'm sorry, I'm lo I might I must be lost. [0:25:33, 0:25:36]: Oh, the vote was un on this last vote was unanimous. [0:25:37, 0:25:43]: I I'm I move I I move the motion that we go to the second session. I'm sorry. Excuse me. Is there a second? [0:25:45, 0:25:48]: I said Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:25:50, 0:25:57]: Thank you. Appreciate it. Um, thank you, Vanessa. I'm sorry. Like I said, it's a gray hair acting up for today, I suppose. Okay. [0:25:57, 0:26:01]: So we'll we'll we'll go into second session. Uh [0:26:02, 0:26:03]: Excuse me. [0:26:04, 0:26:05]: All right. [0:26:06, 0:26:07]: No, it'll just be about three minutes. [0:26:07, 0:26:27]: Okay. Okay. I appreciate that. It'll take about three minutes. Thank you. Okay. All right, folks. I'll see you. And Vanessa Vanessa, we'll we'll we'll go out of this one and then come back into the new one. Is that correct? Just for all right, just for the uh Mr. Washington and Mr. Berry. So yeah, so you you've got to understand Mr. Washington, Mr. Barrett, the council. And uh in this case I I will have to [0:26:27, 0:26:30]: We'll be missing one council member in this aspect. [0:26:30, 0:26:33]: Okay. But we'll be sent another link for Ms. Hollis. Okay. [0:26:34, 0:26:37]: I'll I'll be sending a link. Yes. Okay. [0:26:37, 0:26:39]: Okay. I'll see you on a few minutes. [0:26:40, 0:26:41]: Okay. [0:26:41, 0:26:41]: Yeah. [0:27:17, 0:27:18]: Yeah. [0:27:48, 0:27:50]: Remating on Mayor Ford. [0:27:52, 0:27:53]: Yeah, and uh [0:27:55, 0:27:58]: Councilman Alexander would also need to be brought back, correct? [0:27:58, 0:28:01]: I sent a message. [0:28:01, 0:28:02]: Okay. Okay. [0:28:02, 0:28:04]: Yeah, he he needs to come back. [0:28:32, 0:28:32]: No. [0:28:33, 0:28:36]: So everybody's here except for him at this point. [0:28:38, 0:28:43]: I've sent him a message. I don't I've sent him a message. I don't uh [0:28:52, 0:28:52]: Yeah. [0:28:54, 0:28:56]: How long ago did you do that, uh, Miss Holliday? [0:28:58, 0:29:02]: I I've said it twice. I've seen it since we've been back since we've been there. Since we've been there. [0:29:04, 0:29:08]: Are we back? Are we back live? Yeah, we are back live soon. Yes, we are with Forty. [0:29:10, 0:29:12]: Okay. Um [0:29:14, 0:29:21]: All right. Here's what we're going to do. We have a quorum. Um, we're gonna go forward. I need a motion to end this exit session, please. [0:29:22, 0:29:24]: I'm moved. No second. [0:29:25, 0:29:29]: And Councilman Barber seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [0:29:31, 0:29:37]: All right, thank you very much. Uh now I need a motion to reconvene our uh council work session. [0:29:38, 0:29:39]: So moved. [0:29:39, 0:29:45]: Okay, is there a second? Second. Okay. Councilman Thomas. Okay, appreciate it. [0:29:46, 0:29:47]: All favor, please indicate. [0:29:48, 0:30:02]: All right. Thank you very much. All right, now there are a couple of things that came out of the actual um our executive session. So I need uh those items bring forward. And first thing, uh uh Councilman Belunt, I believe you have a motion. [0:30:03, 0:30:05]: Yeah, so maybe maybe [0:30:06, 0:30:26]: um i don't i'd like to make a motion to approve um acquiring um mr williams services for three months contractual for seven thousand dollars pertaining to uh the city's uh litigation uh matters with uh by the [0:30:26, 0:30:26]: Mm. [0:30:27, 0:30:27]: There's a second. [0:30:28, 0:30:29]: A second. [0:30:29, 0:30:32]: Okay. All flavored emotion, please indicate. [0:30:34, 0:30:35]: Apples. [0:30:37, 0:30:43]: Okay. It it passes uh three zero Miss Barber, you you abstain abstaining? [0:30:45, 0:30:46]: I'm sorry, I can't hear you. [0:30:47, 0:30:48]: Okay. [0:30:49, 0:30:50]: Alex Dane. [0:30:50, 0:31:03]: Okay, so it's please zero one. Okay. Um it passes. All right, Miss Kant. I actually have Mr. Alexander raise his hand on that vote and I just need to ask the attorney do I accept that vote or not? [0:31:04, 0:31:09]: Three's uh well the attorneys can answer. I I know it passed, but I just need to ask for the record. [0:31:12, 0:31:14]: I would think that it should not be counted [0:31:15, 0:31:16]: Given the interest in the litigation. [0:31:17, 0:31:17]: Okay. [0:31:18, 0:31:25]: Thank you. I just want to clarify. Thank you. Okay. Um, Miss Gantt, do you have a another motion for us? [0:31:26, 0:31:30]: Yes. Yes, I I move that we [0:31:30, 0:31:31]: Um [0:31:32, 0:31:39]: approve and welcome um Mrs. Breca Johnson as our community development director. [0:31:40, 0:31:45]: Okay, Mr. Thomas seconds that all in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:31:47, 0:31:55]: Okay, she now decision. Fantastic. Congratulations to her. Look forward to meeting her in person and talking with her. And now you're welcome, sir. [0:31:55, 0:32:15]: And re in reference to my my comments. Uh recently, as you well know, ladies and gentlemen, that the uh state of Texas has been hit with uh a tragic inc incident where they lost a lot of power and uh the folks in Texas uh uh have a rough, rough time. It just so happens that here in the city, excuse me, in the county, in the h in Henry County. [0:32:15, 0:32:23]: The American Legion post five uh five sixteen along with the Henry Gow County government and participating cities to include Stockbridge. [0:32:24, 0:32:35]: have um gathered up a pallet of water to send down to Te uh Texas to support those individuals down there. And that uh that truckload of water is headed out uh tomorrow morning. [0:32:35, 0:32:55]: Uh so hopefully individuals I know individuals from the county itself from different parts of cities and other cities, include Stockbridge, has um uh went on and d delivered or uh or donated water to help those citizens of of Texas and and hopefully if we ever come in a situation here in Henry County and Georgia, the Texas do the same for us if we have any type of [0:32:55, 0:32:59]: natural disaster or some incident that'll cause havoc for us as well. [0:32:59, 0:33:19]: Um on this note I probably need Ms. uh Holiday to help me out on this. It's your constitutional right to vote. So right now, folks, the East PLOS number six is up for a vote. We can't advocate yes or no here in this venue, uh, but it's your constitutional right to vote. And of course that it's a referendum that that's going on right now. Early voting is going [0:33:19, 0:33:24]: one of Merrill Manor's uh conference center on the sixteenth of March is actual um [0:33:24, 0:33:44]: election date and I believe that'd be held only held at um in Madonna, I believe that is. Is that correct, uh Miss Holliday? That's correct. Okay. So that deals with uh roughly three hundred twenty-five million dollars of of uh cash uh for the school system itself Henry's Henry County school system capital school projects technology technology [0:33:44, 0:33:56]: technology improvements and transportation and fine arts uh improvements. So uh once again it's your constitution and right to uh voice your opinion on that. As you well know, we're still in a pandemic. [0:33:57, 0:34:08]: And so when y'all in the public domain, wear your mask, wash your hands when you can, use hand side and tanner when you can't wash your hands, stay six feet of distance away, don't go to large gatherings. [0:34:08, 0:34:19]: The big thing now these days is a vaccination. Okay. And so uh and I know a lot of you having problems uh getting getting a vaccination at this point, but you gotta keep trying and calling that number. [0:34:19, 0:34:27]: Uh so here in Henry County, uh they're now rotating the vaccination site to several different locations in Henry County for the month of March. [0:34:27, 0:34:47]: Just so happens a week ago last Tuesday, and we were at Merrill Manor's Conference Center, and well over 600 plus citizens, uh senior citizens typically received the first doses of the vaccination, Moderna, Moderna vaccination. Just earlier today, uh roughly 600 plus more citizens were given a vaccination the first. [0:34:47, 0:34:51]: first doses of Moderna, Moderna at um JP Mosley. [0:34:51, 0:34:59]: Recreational Center. Um, and the following week, uh next Tuesday, it'll be a Locust Grove Senior Center. [0:34:59, 0:35:10]: It's two eighty Moss uh Berman Road. Screw me Mouse uh Moss Brown Drive, I'm sorry, two eighty Mouse uh Moss Brown Drive in Locus Grove next Tuesday. [0:35:10, 0:35:12]: It starts at eight thirty in the morning. [0:35:12, 0:35:14]: So starting tomorrow morning. [0:35:14, 0:35:20]: Tomorrow morning at eight thirty, you can start calling to make your reservations and appointments for that particular [0:35:20, 0:35:23]: uh location to get your vaccination next next Tuesday. [0:35:24, 0:35:25]: So Wednesday to Friday. [0:35:25, 0:35:30]: They'll be septing your uh your actual reservations. Do you have to call this number? [0:35:30, 0:35:31]: Seven six two. [0:35:32, 0:35:36]: eight eight eight eight one eight zero. Once again seven six two [0:35:36, 0:35:38]: eight eight eight eight one eight zero. [0:35:39, 0:35:43]: open those lines are open from uh Wednesday to Friday, eight AM to five PM. [0:35:43, 0:35:47]: And they'll they'll stop accepting those reservations when they're maxed out with their appointments. [0:35:48, 0:35:53]: Now you have to keep trying,'cause obviously you have to you have to keep trying to get through, but it can be done. So be patient with that. [0:35:53, 0:36:13]: Now obviously, uh like I said, next Tuesday at Locust Grove Senior Center, and then the uh following week on the 23rd uh of uh uh of March. Excuse me, so I'm sorry, on the 9th of March, actually for the two weeks, on March 2nd and March 9th, March 2nd and March 9th, both at Locust Grove, both Tuesdays. [0:36:13, 0:36:17]: That starts at 8 30 in the morning until all the vaccinations are done. [0:36:17, 0:36:31]: So the second and ninth at Locust Grove on the 16th, they'll be back at Merrill Manor's Conference Center. Uh now on that uh aspect that those will be for the individuals to get their second dosage, people that got their dosage at Merrill Manor last Tuesday. [0:36:32, 0:36:42]: One month later, they'll come back to Merrill Manager for the second shot. Okay, to Mederma. And as this is the same type of process that goes on the uh the twenty-third at JP Mosley. [0:36:42, 0:36:47]: And so those are those would be the individuals that got their shot today primarily to get the second shot. [0:36:47, 0:36:50]: And then on the March thirtieth to be back at Locus Grove Senior Center. [0:36:50, 0:36:54]: Okay. Now even though we have the vaccinations, they're still [0:36:54, 0:37:01]: some people still need to get uh tested and testing goes on daily at the heritage centers at Heritage Senior Center. [0:37:01, 0:37:04]: In uh on my on uh in Madonna. [0:37:04, 0:37:14]: Okay. Uh so um that happens Monday to Thursday, nine AM to three PM. Nine AM to three PM, Monday to Thursday, Saturday, nine AM to twelve noon. [0:37:15, 0:37:17]: And you need to make a reservation for that as well. [0:37:17, 0:37:21]: Uh it's eight hundred eight four seven four two six two. Once again, eight hundred [0:37:22, 0:37:23]: eight four seven four two six two. [0:37:24, 0:37:27]: Uh so if you need to get tested, please do that. [0:37:27, 0:37:43]: And but more or less we're before and you gotta be patient with the vaccination piece. Now obviously you have uh places like uh CVS and Publix or Walgreens that are also private of uh uh private individuals that also are given out the vaccination. You have to call them directly to do that. [0:37:43, 0:37:45]: All right, so hopefully you [0:37:45, 0:38:05]: You'll be get your vaccination as soon as possible. When you're qualified to do so, you need to eradicate and stomp out this uh this particular virus. So just keep the faith with that as well. And right now we're still in phase one, a expanded, so it deals with healthcare individuals, police officers, firefighters, individuals over 65 years of age. [0:38:05, 0:38:09]: And the h and the care, the first care uh givers that are actually part of the process here. [0:38:10, 0:38:14]: Okay, city offices are closed due to COVID nineteen precautions, of course, until this point. [0:38:14, 0:38:34]: And uh please contact the city's website, uh citystopridge.com, and you get a hold of each department and get additional information and get services here in in the city. Uh upcoming meetings and announcements. Uh there's um going to be a city council meeting course at 6 p.m. by Zoom. [0:38:34, 0:38:54]: Second Monday of each month. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting is 9 o'clock a.m. Uh by Zoom, the second Friday of each month. The downtown authority meeting, downtown development authority meeting is 6 p.m. by way of Zoom, the third Tuesday of each month. The youth council advisory meeting is 6:30 p.m. by [0:38:54, 0:38:57]: As a way of Zoom, the third Tuesday of each month. [0:38:58, 0:39:02]: The planning commission meeting is six thirty PM by way of Zoom, the fourth Thursday of each month. [0:39:03, 0:39:11]: And our next city council meeting will be six p.m. by way of Zoom, the last Tuesday of each month. And then we have an upcoming public hearing. [0:39:12, 0:39:25]: February 25th at 630 PM. Um and also on March 8th of 2021 at 6 p.m., it deals with a rezoning case of RZ-2020-02. [0:39:26, 0:39:33]: Upcoming council initiatives. You have uh you have to join Councilman Thomas this Saturday, February twenty-seventh at four PM. [0:39:33, 0:39:49]: for the African American History Celebration virtual war ceremony. Virtual war ceremony. And uh please visit the city's uh Facebook page and the website for the ver a virtual link, which will be uh four PM on this Saturday, a few days from now. [0:39:50, 0:39:55]: Uh joined uh Councilwoman Barber for a community blood drive Saturday, March sixth. [0:39:55, 0:39:58]: From ten a.m. to four PM at Test Strickland Community Center. [0:39:59, 0:40:04]: And for more information, please contact Ms. Zenovia Peterson at four oh four. [0:40:04, 0:40:07]: Five six five five one zero nine [0:40:07, 0:40:09]: And join American. [0:40:10, 0:40:15]: Elton Alexander for the fifth annual Women's History Month celebration taking place virtually. [0:40:15, 0:40:16]: March seventh. [0:40:16, 0:40:24]: twenty twenty one, of course, at three p.m. And for more information about that, contact once again Zenovia Peterson at four oh four. [0:40:24, 0:40:27]: Five six five five one zero nine [0:40:27, 0:40:31]: On that note, uh council, I need a motion to adjourn the meeting. [0:40:31, 0:40:31]: Here. [0:40:32, 0:40:32]: Yes, sir. [0:40:33, 0:40:42]: Can we can we ask that we uh keep uh Commissioner Gary Bonham in our prayers as he battled uh COVID nineteen? You you just did it, sir. If you can elaborate any further if you need to do that. [0:40:43, 0:40:48]: Well the family is continue to ask for prayers and uh we just want to continue to pray for him. Uh he's in uh [0:40:49, 0:40:58]: He's in uh really, really bad shape. Uh he's in grave condition right now. But we uh continue to lift his family and keep him in prayer. Uh Gary Bottom, Commissioner, Henry County. [0:40:58, 0:41:04]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. I slipped my mind, but thank you. Good point. Okay. I need a motion to adjourn the meeting, please. [0:41:06, 0:41:07]: Some moved. Is there a second? [0:41:08, 0:41:08]: Okay. [0:41:09, 0:41:10]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:41:12, 0:41:12]: Mm. [0:41:12, 0:41:17]: Absolutely. Good night, everybody. Enjoy yourself. God bless you. Good night. Good night. [0:41:17, 0:41:17]: Thank you.

--- title: Downtown Development Authority Meeting date: 2021-02-16 source: 2021-02-16_Downtown_Development_Authority_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:14, 0:00:14]: That's [0:04:09, 0:04:09]: Did you? [0:06:01, 0:06:02]: I don't know. [0:06:12, 0:06:14]: Speak and pause. Do you hear a replay? [0:06:45, 0:06:45]: Okay. [0:06:59, 0:07:00]: Yeah. [0:07:05, 0:07:05]: Okay. [0:09:53, 0:09:54]: [606.0, 607.2]: Let's see what should I think. [0:11:05, 0:11:05]: Okay. [0:11:06, 0:11:07]: Okay. [0:11:14, 0:11:15]: Yeah. [0:12:50, 0:12:51]: Thank you. [0:12:52, 0:12:53]: [874.0, 874.4]: Okay. [0:14:40, 0:14:41]: Hello. [0:14:43, 0:14:44]: Hey Roger, how are you? [0:14:45, 0:14:46]: Oh well. How are you doing today? [0:14:47, 0:14:50]: I'm doing well. Did you did you get everything I emailed you? [0:14:51, 0:14:52]: I did, thank you. [0:14:53, 0:14:54]: Okay, one [0:14:55, 0:14:55]: Wonderful. [0:14:56, 0:15:09]: Well, I let me let me clarify. I I did get an email from you, so I'm not sure if it's everything. It was the uh facade grant uh sample documents that you sent Thursday. [0:15:10, 0:15:17]: Yeah, it was the facade grant sample documents. It was uh sample letter to [0:15:18, 0:15:19]: Um [0:15:20, 0:15:23]: the um businesses who have been awarded the facade grant. [0:15:24, 0:15:26]: And including some next steps. [0:15:26, 0:15:27]: Things like that. [0:15:29, 0:15:31]: Okay, yeah, I did get that email. [0:15:31, 0:15:33]: Okay. Good, good, good. [0:15:35, 0:15:49]: Great. So yeah. I feel like we've made great progress just in the last couple of weeks with this, more so than in the last couple of years. Oh yeah, yeah. Well well, you know, we we're you know, and and that's what it's about. Um [0:15:49, 0:15:53]: And we have we have the the template. So if everyone once everyone looks at it. [0:15:54, 0:15:58]: And um we can, you know, make changes soon, hopefully. [0:16:10, 0:16:11]: I so make a [0:16:12, 0:16:19]: I'm well, not good morning. Lord have mercy. Good afternoon. How y'all doing? Good. How are you doing? I'm good. [0:16:28, 0:16:33]: So make it before we get started, uh I know I've been trying to connect so I can briefly on the [0:16:33, 0:16:35]: on the uh purchased steel. [0:16:36, 0:16:45]: Um, so let me know. Um I'm generally good most weekday evenings between say five and six, six thirty, something like that. [0:16:45, 0:16:52]: Okay. Um or weekends. I prefer m morning like before like around nine or ten or something like that. [0:16:52, 0:16:58]: So just let me know what works for you in the next week or so and uh I'll be glad to send up some time with you. [0:16:58, 0:16:58]: Okay. [0:17:04, 0:17:06]: Hello, Barber's joining via phone. [0:17:06, 0:17:08]: Hi Barber, thanks for joining. [0:17:10, 0:17:11]: Yes, thank you. [0:17:13, 0:17:14]: And we hear you fine. [0:17:14, 0:17:17]: We don't see you, we just see a little telephone icon. [0:17:18, 0:17:21]: Yeah, still don't have internet service, so [0:17:22, 0:17:22]: Right. [0:17:23, 0:17:25]: What we do is. [0:17:26, 0:17:27]: Well, at least you have power. [0:17:30, 0:17:31]: Yeah, what is that? [0:17:33, 0:17:33]: [1054.8, 1058.2]: You do sound a little far away, but that that that's fine, we can make it out. [0:17:44, 0:17:45]: Right. [0:17:54, 0:18:02]: Um, let me ask Alan and or Samiqua, did y'all get a reminder from Zoom today about this meeting? Cause I set it up to automatically go out. [0:18:04, 0:18:07]: I don't think I did. Okay. Uh [0:18:07, 0:18:10]: then um let me um [0:18:10, 0:18:11]: Let me just go ahead and do that. [0:18:14, 0:18:17]: Send reminders. Um send [0:18:19, 0:18:21]: Please show us [0:18:30, 0:18:33]: Equals here. [0:18:36, 0:18:36]: There we go. [0:18:47, 0:18:48]: Yeah, make sure we have a quorum. [0:19:23, 0:19:26]: Good evening. Hi Art. Hello Vanessa. [0:19:26, 0:19:27]: Hey. [0:19:33, 0:19:34]: Um [0:19:35, 0:19:44]: Art and Vanessa, Barber is dialed in. She um her internet is down, so the phone number you see here is is Barber. [0:19:44, 0:19:45]: Okay. [0:19:57, 0:20:00]: So we'll give it a minute for I know um [0:20:01, 0:20:04]: I know Max was on his way in and uh [0:20:05, 0:20:06]: There I see Bob's joining now. [0:20:07, 0:20:08]: All right. [0:20:08, 0:20:10]: We should be able to get started. [0:20:12, 0:20:16]: Hello Bob. Hey, how are you? Doing well. [0:20:17, 0:20:18]: So we can [0:20:23, 0:20:23]: Yeah. [0:20:25, 0:20:26]: Yeah. [0:20:27, 0:20:35]: Um I think we have enough of a quorum to get started. So if it's okay with everyone, I'd like to uh try to start on time or as close to it as possible. [0:20:35, 0:20:43]: Um if everyone's okay, I'm gonna go ahead and uh start the webinar, which will allow the uh public um attendees to join. [0:20:43, 0:20:44]: Uh [0:20:44, 0:20:45]: Everyone ready? [0:20:46, 0:20:47]: Yes. [0:20:47, 0:20:55]: Okay, great. So the webinar is now live. So welcome everybody to the uh February 16th. [0:20:55, 0:20:58]: Stockbridge Downtown Development Authority meeting, regular meeting. [0:20:59, 0:21:05]: Uh we'll start off with a roll call. So Bob, if you would please uh call roll and then we'll check to see we are quorum. [0:21:06, 0:21:06]: Okay. [0:21:07, 0:21:08]: So [0:21:08, 0:21:10]: Arthur Christian. Present. [0:21:11, 0:21:13]: Uh, Roger Custom. [0:21:13, 0:21:14]: Present. [0:21:15, 0:21:16]: Lakeisha Gantt. [0:21:18, 0:21:18]: Lakeisha Gantt [0:21:19, 0:21:20]: Самі кокейн. [0:21:21, 0:21:21]: Is it? [0:21:23, 0:21:24]: Barber Richardson [0:21:25, 0:21:26]: Present. [0:21:26, 0:21:27]: Thank you. [0:21:27, 0:21:28]: Maxwell Sears. [0:21:31, 0:21:32]: Actual Seers. [0:21:33, 0:21:35]: Okay, uh Bob Swagert, I'm here. [0:21:36, 0:21:37]: Well. [0:21:37, 0:21:38]: Pretty important. [0:21:38, 0:21:39]: Six um [0:21:39, 0:21:40]: Members to present. [0:21:41, 0:21:45]: One, two, three, fourth. I count [0:21:46, 0:21:47]: Five? [0:21:49, 0:21:51]: But either way that makes a quorum. [0:21:52, 0:21:53]: Uh okay. [0:21:53, 0:22:00]: All right, great. So we'll go ahead and get the meeting started. Thank you, Bob. So the first item on the agenda is to approve [0:22:00, 0:22:03]: Today's meeting agenda, uh Bob sent a um [0:22:04, 0:22:15]: uh a version February sixteenth. Um I'll check, I'll pause to see if everyone present has had a chance to review that and if there's any questions and then I'll take a motion to go ahead and approve today's agenda. [0:22:17, 0:22:20]: I move that we accept today's gender agenda as printed. [0:22:22, 0:22:23]: Uh second. [0:22:25, 0:22:26]: Okay. [0:22:27, 0:22:29]: Any other discussion? [0:22:30, 0:22:37]: So we have a motion to approve today's meeting agenda as uh printed and Bob uh Mr. Christian has moved to um [0:22:38, 0:22:44]: Approved the agenda and Bob has moved and seconded the motion. Um no further discussion. Um [0:22:45, 0:22:47]: I think we can do this by a uh [0:22:48, 0:23:08]: Bob, I I'm gonna defer to you. How would you prefer to record or you and Vanessa, would you prefer we do a roll call for each of the votes? I know it's easier when we're doing Zoom calls, but now that I've transferred this to either of you, I'll let you speak your preference, whether we just do a yay or nay or a show of hands or do a roll call. Any any comment on that as far [0:23:08, 0:23:09]: RS procedure. [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: I don't have any preference. Do you do you Vanessa or? [0:23:12, 0:23:19]: For me it's a show a show of hands unless there is technical difficulties where we'll need to hear a verbal. [0:23:20, 0:23:34]: Okay, great. And I should note that Barber is voice only today. So we'll we'll at least let's uh let's hear from Barber first and then we can say a show of hands as far as all who approved today's agenda. [0:23:36, 0:23:36]: Uh yay. [0:23:37, 0:23:38]: All right. [0:23:42, 0:23:42]: Right. [0:23:43, 0:23:55]: And for the record, uh Mr. Sears has joined the meeting. He was last I uh yeah I I I can't vote on something I didn't hear, but I guess I guess I'll get it we I was having a problem getting on. [0:23:55, 0:23:56]: Okay. [0:23:57, 0:24:00]: Well, we see you welcome and we hear you loud and clear. Thank you, Mr. Sears. [0:24:01, 0:24:04]: But you wanna give me a list of snap or I'll abstain. So if you wanna give me a little [0:24:05, 0:24:07]: Quick insight on what you [0:24:07, 0:24:16]: raising your hand about Oh thank you. It was to approve today's agenda as president. Okay. I can do that part. [0:24:17, 0:24:20]: Right. Um do you all see the note from [0:24:20, 0:24:27]: Councilwoman again, it needs to be um Roger, if you would. Yeah, I can bring her in. All right. Right. [0:24:30, 0:24:31]: All right, uh [0:24:32, 0:24:35]: Council McGantt, can you hear me? [0:24:35, 0:24:37]: Very good. Thank you. [0:24:39, 0:24:40]: All right. [0:24:41, 0:25:01]: We just voted on approving today's uh meeting agenda and it was approved. Uh next item on the agenda is to approve January 19th, 2021 meeting minutes. These were sent um February 14th. Um actually that's the one that Bob sent. Um I misspoke in the earlier version. [0:25:01, 0:25:06]: Um so I'll take a motion to approve the meeting minutes for January. [0:25:08, 0:25:11]: I move that we approve the meeting minutes from January as printed. [0:25:13, 0:25:13]: Second. [0:25:15, 0:25:17]: Hot second, okay. [0:25:17, 0:25:29]: And we'll do a show of hands. Um Barber, you'll need to say yes or no on this one if you want to approve January's meeting minutes and the rest of us will do a show of hands to approve. [0:25:30, 0:25:30]: Yes. [0:25:31, 0:25:32]: Very good. [0:25:34, 0:25:35]: Is to be unanimous. [0:25:36, 0:25:38]: I abstained, I wasn't there present. [0:25:39, 0:25:41]: Okay, ex except for Miss Gan. [0:25:44, 0:25:52]: Thank you. We'll move on to the next item. Next item is a correction to the December 15th meeting minutes. [0:25:53, 0:26:02]: They were approved in the January meeting, but um in further review, as we were putting them away, I found that there was a typographical error. [0:26:02, 0:26:22]: Um I sent that in an email on February 8th with the corrected version of the minutes to reflect the um vote actually for the chair. I also sent the meeting recording for that segment of the December meeting. If anybody wanted to review that section of the meeting, so I'd like to take a moment. [0:26:22, 0:26:27]: motion to or I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve the correction that was [0:26:27, 0:26:37]: The correction to the December 15th, 2020 DDA meeting minutes that was sent to the board February 8th of this year. [0:26:43, 0:26:44]: A second. But [0:26:45, 0:26:46]: Thank you, Art. [0:26:48, 0:26:54]: And we'll is there any discussion on the um correction to the December meeting minutes? [0:26:58, 0:27:09]: I'm not seeing any or to hear, so we'll go ahead and move to a vote to approve the correction to the December 15th meeting minutes. Uh all those in favor, show your hand and Barber Fields say yes or no. [0:27:11, 0:27:11]: Yes. [0:27:12, 0:27:13]: I have stayed. [0:27:13, 0:27:15]: Thank you, Sumikua. [0:27:20, 0:27:20]: All right. [0:27:21, 0:27:36]: Vanessa, you have the votes? Very good. All right. Very good. We'll move on to the main part of the agenda then. Um, just some opening remarks. I met with Mr. McCrae, our uh legal attorney earlier this uh actually what lot last week. [0:27:36, 0:27:50]: To just go over now that we've kind of are wrapping up the purchase and sale agreement with the Sell Vane um transaction. Um I was just checking in on where we were in terms of uh [0:27:50, 0:27:59]: current billing so far and what work we would engage um Mr. McRae with going forward on behalf of the DDA. [0:28:01, 0:28:07]: Mr. Custin, I'm sorry, real quick. Miss Bragg was trying to get on. Oh, thank you. She's on the other side as well. [0:28:08, 0:28:16]: All right. I see a person labeled as Galaxy Note. [0:28:17, 0:28:18]: So I'm gonna let [0:28:18, 0:28:20]: That person speak. [0:28:23, 0:28:24]: Hello. [0:28:25, 0:28:27]: Um Kira, is that you? [0:28:27, 0:28:36]: Oh very good, she's saying in the chat. Let me bring it respond, that's her. Okay, then let me um let me uh bring you in as a panelist. [0:28:40, 0:28:42]: Thank you, Councilwoman. [0:28:43, 0:28:49]: Uh Kira, can you hear us? And are you able to speak? I just want to touch that before we move on. [0:28:52, 0:28:53]: And your mute is on, by the way. [0:28:56, 0:28:57]: Yeah. [0:28:57, 0:29:09]: Okay, can you hear me now? I can hear you, Kira. Thanks for joining. Okay, thank you. Sorry about that. No worries. All right. So uh I was uh just reviewing the conversation I had with Mr. McRae. [0:29:09, 0:29:10]: Um [0:29:11, 0:29:29]: uh last week. So um other than the uh Sylvain transaction, which of course he's he's working to its conclusion, um the uh some items that we had that had been pending, we kind of talked about this in prior meetings, but I just wanted to clarify with the board what [0:29:29, 0:29:48]: We've agreed to as far as uh uh work for the DDA. Uh from this point forward, I I suggested he doesn't necessarily need to attend this meeting. Um, he charges the hourly rate and for him to unless unless there is a reason in advance where we feel like he may need. [0:29:48, 0:30:08]: We made his representation for a given topic on the agenda. I didn't think that was a good use of his time or the city's funds or the DDA's funds to just have him listening in on our meetings. So I just kind of wanted to check that with the board to make sure that there was no disagreement with that approach. But as far as his work. [0:30:08, 0:30:21]: work. There's a couple things that I want to have him take a look at. One is to review current open contracts that the DDA has engaged in. There are two. [0:30:21, 0:30:22]: There is the uh [0:30:23, 0:30:30]: uh master planning uh contract with a firm called TSW. I've mentioned this a few times in this meeting. [0:30:32, 0:30:34]: Uh sorry, Kira, did you have something to say? [0:30:35, 0:30:37]: Okay. I'm sorry, I'm trying to mute. [0:30:37, 0:30:38]: That's fine. [0:30:38, 0:30:58]: Um, so there's the TSW master planning agreement, and we just want him want him to review that just to make sure that there are no um unusual risks with um that contract, and especially given that it's been in that it's currently in a suspended state. The other one was from a couple of years prior. It's a contract that we have with. [0:30:58, 0:31:18]: The firm called JLL. And I think they're like a developer broker, and they were supposed there was no monies exchanged or anything like that. This was a contract where they would get paid if they brought us a developer that was interested in doing business here in the city within the district. So Mr. McCrae is looking at those two contracts just to see if there's any unusual risk. [0:31:18, 0:31:20]: risks that we need to be aware of. [0:31:21, 0:31:24]: I'll pause for any comments or questions on that point. [0:31:27, 0:31:31]: Not seeing or hearing anything. I'm sorry. This is horrible. Um [0:31:31, 0:31:35]: Is the T S W contract suspended due to COVID or for other reasons? [0:31:36, 0:31:45]: I would say yes to both. Um, it was it was suspended for other reasons, but it was further impacted by COVID. But yeah, it all happened around the same time. [0:31:47, 0:31:48]: Okay. [0:31:49, 0:32:09]: Okay. Um the other items I asked Mr. McCrae to help us with is to uh review the facade grant and the program. Um I'll let um Mr. Christian speak to that uh when we get to that point of the agenda. But uh Art, if you're just aware that you know, whatever materials we have that we would like to send over. [0:32:09, 0:32:29]: over to Mr. McCrae for his review. Really, his review is just going to be from a legal perspective, just to say, yeah, you need to have this language in here or no, that language is not appropriate. As far as the operation of the program, I think we're, we're, we're, we're, we're in good shape with uh working with Mr. Peterson on that piece. But just want to let you know that door [0:32:29, 0:32:33]: Doors open if you need his review for anything related to the facade grant. [0:32:33, 0:32:34]: Thank you. [0:32:35, 0:32:35]: Um [0:32:36, 0:32:43]: The the next is an item that I I really need to have a discussion. We need to have a discussion with the city. There's long been a [0:32:43, 0:33:03]: Kind of off on and off, there's been an interest in having uh kind of a formalized intergovernmental agreement between the DDA and the city. Um the city, you know, provides funds to the DDA and it's the sole source of funds for this organization, but there is no formal standing IGA between the two. [0:33:03, 0:33:23]: Two organizations. We purposely limited the IGA that was signed for the purchase and sale agreement to that one transaction because we wanted to, you know, move quickly on that particular transaction and not let it get bogged down with, you know, sort of this larger standing IGA. But I know [0:33:23, 0:33:27]: that at least I have an interest in seeing that sort of um [0:33:29, 0:33:49]: you know, uh established in a written form as far as what the expectations are between the two. So I'll pause on this one also for comment. Um uh council McGann, I I I'd like to hear your thoughts on whether there would be an interest you think from the city's perspective in having an IGA between the DDA and the city. Do you have any any comments on that? [0:33:50, 0:33:51]: Um [0:33:51, 0:33:52]: I don't think that [0:33:53, 0:33:54]: That is unreasonable. [0:33:54, 0:33:57]: I don't think that's an unreasonable request. [0:33:57, 0:33:57]: Um [0:33:58, 0:34:00]: We can see where it goes, but I I think that [0:34:01, 0:34:02]: Um but [0:34:02, 0:34:07]: based off of the Georgia laws with the DDA and the way it's established. [0:34:08, 0:34:20]: Um, you know, whether or not the city and there may be some discussion on whether or not, you know, we need an agreement at this time, you know, based off of the appointments or what even though we're a separate entity. [0:34:20, 0:34:24]: The D DA is a separate entity. But I don't think that it would be an issue. [0:34:25, 0:34:27]: All right, thank you me personally. [0:34:27, 0:34:47]: Thank you. I appreciate that. Um yeah, I I Mr. McCrae advised us low, well, before we get into you know developing one, let's see if the city even, you know, if you think there even is an appetite for that. So that that that's really the purpose of me bringing it up in in this forum. Um Mr. Peterson, I know I will notify them there in council about that. [0:34:47, 0:35:00]: Sure, great. Uh and then I guess let us know if there's any uh you know feedback one way or the other. Um, you know, of course we'll work out the details of what it should or should not include and so forth, but you know, at a minimum I think there should be some expectation of [0:35:01, 0:35:16]: You know, a lot of things that come to mind is, you know, we rely on the city for a lot of the staff services, uh, things like, you know, the website, um, you know, office space, things like that. And and you know, maybe there should be mention of those types of things that that we rely on the city for. [0:35:17, 0:35:20]: Um and there of course there are other things. I'm just speaking top of mind at this point. [0:35:21, 0:35:32]: Um Mr. Peterson, I know you're relatively new to the organization, but I I guess I'll open it up uh for you as as the city liaison to this DEA organization. [0:35:32, 0:35:41]: Any uh if any any comments at this point, or if you could also take that back to your team and and see if there's any interest in an IGA between the city and DDA. [0:35:42, 0:35:48]: Yes, I'll um I'll ask um the city about that. I'm for an IGA because um [0:35:49, 0:35:55]: lets everyone know what their roles are, what expectations are. So um I I'll definitely ask about that. [0:35:55, 0:35:57]: I'll I'll ask I'll send Mr. Knight an email about it. [0:35:58, 0:36:06]: Very good. And and I'm not, you know, I wanted to bring it up to this group first before, you know, reaching out to Mr. Knighton or others in the city. So thank you. [0:36:06, 0:36:11]: Um I'll open it up for any other comments, discussion, anything on the intergovernmental agreement. [0:36:16, 0:36:18]: Or potential, I should say. [0:36:19, 0:36:19]: All right. [0:36:20, 0:36:25]: Not hearing any. The uh the last item I spoke with Mr. McCrae about was uh this actually came up. [0:36:26, 0:36:30]: When we were doing the officer votes and I think it was the November meeting. [0:36:31, 0:36:31]: Um [0:36:32, 0:36:47]: That there is a bylaw in our in the DDA bylaws, there is a um officer position for a recording secretary. And we chose at that time not to fill that position because there was kind of a [0:36:47, 0:36:47]: General [0:36:48, 0:36:49]: Філлинг [0:36:49, 0:36:53]: That it was a bit redundant with the actual secretary. [0:36:54, 0:37:00]: And uh, but in order for us to you know codify that, we'd have to uh update the bylaws. [0:37:00, 0:37:10]: Um interesting update. Um when I was transitioning our uh secretary records from myself over to Mr. Schweigert uh about a month ago. [0:37:10, 0:37:21]: Um, I discovered there's actually a new version of the DDA bylaws that I was not aware of previously. So um there was a version that was updated in April 2015. [0:37:21, 0:37:23]: And also [0:37:23, 0:37:25]: References a recording секретарі. [0:37:26, 0:37:30]: Um so there's two points with this. One is I think we need to [0:37:31, 0:37:45]: Clarify and perhaps revise the DDA's bylaws to make sure that we are all in agreement as to what the current version is. Um, but specifically, I think we'd like to address the issue of [0:37:46, 0:38:06]: Perhaps removing the need or the, you know, the naming of a recording secretary in our bylaws. And there may be other things that we want to consider updating in the bylaws as we're going through it. But I just wanted to bring that up for really for discussion at this point. And I handed the both versions of the bylaws over to Mr. McCray for. [0:38:06, 0:38:12]: for him to begin his review. So I'll just open it up to anyone who wants to uh speak to that. Any comments? [0:38:18, 0:38:22]: Is there any way that we can eliminate or combine the [0:38:23, 0:38:23]: Position of [0:38:24, 0:38:25]: Uh [0:38:26, 0:38:35]: Secretary and recording secretary. I mean m miss Miss Holliday is very graciously uh essentially acting as our recording secretary. I don't know that she wants that to be [0:38:36, 0:38:37]: Formally um [0:38:37, 0:38:38]: Um [0:38:39, 0:38:40]: Codified. [0:38:40, 0:38:41]: But [0:38:43, 0:38:53]: Uh yeah, to answer your question, yes. It's just a matter of updating, you know, we'd have to uh formally approve the updates to the D D A bylaws and then it would either [0:38:53, 0:39:05]: eliminate naming having to name the a recording secretary or we could write it such that it's assumed that the secretary position would serve as that [0:39:05, 0:39:14]: in that role. I mean there's a number of ways which we can go about addressing that, but yeah, it would it would in in in any way we go about it, we'd have to update the bylaws to address it. [0:39:17, 0:39:24]: Did that answer your question, uh? Yeah, I I I I guess I guess my preference would be just to to eliminate the position of recording secretary. [0:39:24, 0:39:26]: Uh just eliminate that title, I guess. [0:39:27, 0:39:27]: Right. [0:39:28, 0:39:37]: Yeah, I I don't know the ins and outs legally as to whether there's a preference one way or the other, but you know, that's what I would defer to Mr. McCray and of course the board on their preference. [0:39:37, 0:39:46]: Any other discussion on those points? Yeah, what are the the differences between the two? Like what what does one do that the other one [0:39:48, 0:40:03]: Doesn't it? It's a good question. I think essentially they both serve a secretary role and I I am not an expert on this, but the recording secretary, as I understand it, can be um someone who is not a voting member of the DDA. [0:40:03, 0:40:14]: So you know we could hire someone or assign that to someone in the city staff like like we're doing. Um but but whereas the secretary actually is a [0:40:14, 0:40:29]: The secretary is a named position. It's it as per the, as far as I understand it, per the statute. So the state law says you have to have a secretary, chair, vice chair, and treasurer. The recording secretary is optional depending on how the bylaws are written. [0:40:30, 0:40:37]: So I see the secretary as kind of kind of a custodian in a in a way. Yeah. A an archival custodian uh to [0:40:38, 0:40:40]: To come up with a title, but uh [0:40:42, 0:40:50]: But that's probably the difference. Whereas the the recording secretary, my understanding, basically doing what Miss Holiday is doing, which is actually [0:40:50, 0:40:51]: Um [0:40:51, 0:40:53]: Oh taking the minute. [0:40:56, 0:40:56]: All right. [0:40:57, 0:40:58]: Any other thoughts or questions? [0:41:01, 0:41:13]: All right, we'll move on. Let's see the next item on the agenda. Those that's all the updates I had. So uh thank you for indulging me on that. And I'll turn it over to uh Barber uh Richardson for the treasurer's update. [0:41:17, 0:41:18]: Okay, so [0:41:19, 0:41:22]: Nothing has changed as of well [0:41:22, 0:41:30]: Couple of things. We were able to get everything, the signature cards and everything switched over from the prior treasurer to myself and Roger. [0:41:30, 0:41:32]: Um so we are now um [0:41:33, 0:41:34]: Have custody of the bank account, if you will. [0:41:35, 0:41:37]: As of January thirty first. [0:41:37, 0:41:42]: The bank balances have remained the same. There was no activity in the month of January. [0:41:43, 0:41:45]: So just for reference, that operating account. [0:41:46, 0:41:50]: Is ninety seven thousand four hundred four dollars and sixty one cents. [0:41:51, 0:41:55]: And the facade grant is forty four thousand. [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: Nine hundred seventy two dollars and five cents. [0:41:58, 0:42:02]: This FYI going forward, I will have actual financial reports to um [0:42:03, 0:42:09]: to provide us is that at the time and when we got all this switched over, um, hadn't had enough time to get that done yet. [0:42:09, 0:42:10]: But um [0:42:10, 0:42:11]: Also [0:42:12, 0:42:18]: As we stated last month, fifty thousand dollars of the operating grant needs to be transferred over to the facade grant. [0:42:18, 0:42:19]: You will see that [0:42:19, 0:42:22]: happened in February. In fact it already has happened. [0:42:22, 0:42:27]: Just not in January. Um, so the January balances that I gave you are as of the statement. [0:42:28, 0:42:29]: January thirty first. [0:42:30, 0:42:30]: Um [0:42:31, 0:42:34]: Other than that, there's nothing let me look at my list. [0:42:35, 0:42:44]: A few outstanding invoices that will get caught up this month. Um, there's one$830 invoice due to TSW. [0:42:45, 0:42:52]: as well as a few uh invoices that we owe to the city for uh CDA training and plaques. [0:42:52, 0:42:54]: Main badge is just like that, but [0:42:55, 0:42:58]: Um, as I stated, all those things will be paid out this month. [0:42:58, 0:42:59]: And um [0:43:01, 0:43:02]: We will begin having [0:43:03, 0:43:07]: real financial reporting, uh, for our next meeting. [0:43:07, 0:43:08]: But [0:43:08, 0:43:10]: There are any questions? [0:43:10, 0:43:12]: I will entertain them. [0:43:17, 0:43:19]: Okay, then that concludes my report. [0:43:21, 0:43:30]: Thank you, Barber. Uh great work. I really should appreciate you stepping up for the treasurer role. And uh I think we've got a good support foundation. So thank you for your work on that. [0:43:30, 0:43:35]: Uh next up, uh Bob, uh any secretary updates for the for the board? [0:43:35, 0:43:39]: Uh I I met with um Mr Um [0:43:39, 0:43:43]: The city attorney, I can't I his name escapes me right now, but um [0:43:44, 0:43:51]: Uh I met with him last week. He came came by the house'cause he needed my signature on uh one of the PSA documents. [0:43:51, 0:43:53]: And so I I did that. [0:43:53, 0:43:53]: Uh [0:43:54, 0:44:03]: signed multiple copies and uh it's my understanding that the I'm talking about the the the restaurant PSA. Um that that that is um [0:44:03, 0:44:04]: being finalized. [0:44:06, 0:44:09]: And hopefully at this point it should be pretty pretty wrapped up. [0:44:12, 0:44:14]: А до нем [0:44:15, 0:44:15]: That's [0:44:16, 0:44:17]: That's all I have. [0:44:18, 0:44:19]: Great. Any questions for Bob? [0:44:23, 0:44:28]: All right, we'll move on to the next item. So Mr. Christian, uh facade brand update. [0:44:31, 0:44:32]: Yes, good evening, everyone. [0:44:33, 0:44:38]: So a few of us basically had a committee meeting regarding the facade grant on February tenth. [0:44:39, 0:44:40]: And it was very productive, included um [0:44:42, 0:44:45]: Mr. Peterson, the chair, myself, Barber Richardson, the treasurer. [0:44:46, 0:44:48]: Uh Kira Bragg's uh Main Street. [0:44:48, 0:44:49]: Yeah. [0:44:49, 0:44:50]: I miss anybody. [0:44:50, 0:44:50]: Sure. [0:44:51, 0:44:55]: And we were discussing basically where things are with the current uh reimbursement. [0:44:56, 0:44:57]: Or Fletcher and Suns. [0:44:57, 0:44:58]: And [0:44:59, 0:45:01]: Had some good conversation about that. I'll be [0:45:02, 0:45:08]: uh getting back in touch with Mr. Fletcher because I did meet with him in person and, you know, discuss the facade grant. [0:45:08, 0:45:12]: To make sure that the receipts that I get from him, you know, are covered. [0:45:13, 0:45:15]: uh according to the contract. [0:45:16, 0:45:20]: Uh, one thing that we did mention uh during that committee meeting was [0:45:21, 0:45:23]: The idea of [0:45:23, 0:45:25]: Акчели коверні [0:45:26, 0:45:27]: Sign permitting fees. [0:45:27, 0:45:29]: That may be charged to [0:45:29, 0:45:30]: Any [0:45:30, 0:45:31]: Um [0:45:31, 0:45:32]: facade grant. [0:45:32, 0:45:33]: Grantees. [0:45:34, 0:45:36]: And um that's something that [0:45:36, 0:45:37]: Um [0:45:37, 0:45:41]: I'd definitely be making a motion for so we can have some discussion just to see where things are with that. [0:45:42, 0:45:43]: Um [0:45:43, 0:45:43]: Yeah. [0:45:44, 0:45:47]: We discussed uh of course finishing out that project. [0:45:48, 0:45:52]: Um, shoring up our policies and procedures for future. [0:45:52, 0:45:57]: uh facade grant and the application process, the reimbursement process, et cetera. [0:45:58, 0:45:59]: Uh [0:46:00, 0:46:01]: Roger had brought up yeah. [0:46:02, 0:46:03]: The need for [0:46:03, 0:46:07]: The website being updated with links that are current and active. [0:46:07, 0:46:08]: To [0:46:08, 0:46:09]: Current information. [0:46:10, 0:46:14]: But uh Mr. Peterson also brought up that well, we definitely need to fix that website first. [0:46:15, 0:46:16]: Um [0:46:16, 0:46:21]: But we'll need those, you know, the updated materials in order to put or link to the website. [0:46:22, 0:46:23]: And uh [0:46:23, 0:46:24]: Let's see, let's see. [0:46:26, 0:46:28]: Talked about the need for marketing the program. [0:46:28, 0:46:30]: We've got a good piece uh [0:46:30, 0:46:33]: Good amount of money funds in that program that uh [0:46:34, 0:46:43]: And according to Ms. Richardson, we'll be increasing by 50,000 as you know have we known for a few months now, at least since I've been on the board. [0:46:43, 0:46:45]: And [0:46:45, 0:46:48]: Also I brought up the idea of whether [0:46:49, 0:46:51]: I'd love to know get you all's input on whether [0:46:52, 0:46:53]: The board members thinks that [0:46:54, 0:46:55]: Uh business cards. [0:46:55, 0:46:58]: uh for the board members would be something that we might want. [0:46:58, 0:46:59]: Um [0:46:59, 0:47:02]: As we market program, as we speak to business owners. [0:47:03, 0:47:06]: You know, to try to promote economic development and, you know, movement in the downtown area. [0:47:07, 0:47:08]: And um [0:47:09, 0:47:11]: That's my report so far. [0:47:11, 0:47:13]: Did anyone have any questions or comments? [0:47:19, 0:47:39]: I'm not hearing any, but I will make uh one update. Um Vanessa helped us correct the broken links that were on the website for the facade grants. So that that's that's now been those links have been restored. So we have the original documents uh shown there. Uh and I'll just say um Art, thank you for you know taking the lead on this project. Uh I know [0:47:39, 0:47:53]: It's uh taking a lot of your time and it's uh you've done some great work and making some progress. Uh you and Mr. Peterson and Kira and all involved. Uh it's been um we've made more progress in the last few weeks than we have in the last couple of years. [0:47:54, 0:48:00]: Roger. Yes. Roger, hi. If um I might um also add [0:48:00, 0:48:07]: Um in that committee meeting there was also some discussion with regard to um the amount [0:48:07, 0:48:13]: um being looked at as far as the facade grant program maybe having um [0:48:13, 0:48:17]: Um a another aspect of the program. [0:48:17, 0:48:21]: Where um a larger grant might be available to [0:48:21, 0:48:23]: А проспектив бізнес. [0:48:23, 0:48:25]: That has a larger project. [0:48:25, 0:48:29]: So I think um scope of project was something that [0:48:29, 0:48:30]: You we [0:48:30, 0:48:35]: also talked about. So that's something that you all might want to look at in the future as well. [0:48:38, 0:48:40]: Thank you, appreciate that, Kira. [0:48:46, 0:48:52]: All right, any other comments uh for um art on the facade grant? [0:48:54, 0:48:55]: Um [0:48:55, 0:48:56]: Art, did you want to go ahead and [0:48:57, 0:49:00]: Consider the motion at this stage for [0:49:00, 0:49:03]: Yes, I move that the [0:49:03, 0:49:05]: DA board covers [0:49:05, 0:49:07]: Permitting signed fees. [0:49:08, 0:49:10]: Including retroactively for [0:49:10, 0:49:11]: our current um [0:49:13, 0:49:16]: application that is still out there that hasn't been fully re reimbursed. [0:49:19, 0:49:21]: And FYI, the current [0:49:21, 0:49:26]: Signed permit sign permitting fee is two hundred and twenty five dollars charged by the city of Stockholm. [0:49:29, 0:49:49]: I'd like to second the motion, but I I want to offer an amendment to it, uh, under the condition that the sign is part of the facade. So we we want to clarify that we wouldn't pay for the sign fee if it's a separate sign, but if it is and and just to kind of bring everyone up to speed, the the current applicants um [0:49:49, 0:50:02]: um has um a kind of a a a retro looking um I'll call it a mural that is the sign for the business, but it's painted onto the building. And and that's a that's a bit of the um [0:50:03, 0:50:17]: um where the sign fee overlaps with the actual facade. So I I think um art to the point we're bringing to the board today, it's uh approval to pay the to cover the reimburse the cost of the sign fee. [0:50:17, 0:50:22]: if it if the sign is part of the uh facade for the uh facade grant application. [0:50:23, 0:50:32]: I accept that amendment. All right, great. Is this a um reimbursable fee or is it something that we would pay on the front end? [0:50:36, 0:50:37]: Mark, did you want to take that? [0:50:38, 0:50:40]: Well, it can be either or. [0:50:40, 0:50:41]: Um [0:50:41, 0:50:43]: What do you all what do you all think? [0:50:44, 0:50:47]: Um, I would recommend that it be reimbursable. [0:50:48, 0:50:49]: Yeah, of course. [0:50:50, 0:50:50]: A lot. [0:50:52, 0:50:53]: Okay. [0:50:55, 0:50:59]: But then I can I'll amend the motion to say that it would be reimbursable. [0:50:59, 0:51:00]: All right. [0:51:00, 0:51:00]: Correct. [0:51:01, 0:51:21]: So we have a motion for the uh DDA to consider um reimbursing the sign fee, the city's signed fee of two hundred twenty-five dollars. Um, if the sign is part of the facade. Um and it's been uh the motion's been made and it has been seconded. Uh any other discussion? I'm sorry, one thing, Roger. I don't want to put the [0:51:21, 0:51:26]: The amount in there just in case that changes. Oh sure. That was just for F FY. [0:51:26, 0:51:28]: Good point. Thank you. I agree. [0:51:29, 0:51:35]: Um any other discussion? Who was the second the purpose of this meeting? Uh I was okay. [0:51:36, 0:51:39]: We love it because we have started down that path already. [0:51:40, 0:51:41]: Any other discussion? [0:51:43, 0:51:46]: Not seeing or hearing any, so let's go ahead. I'm sorry. [0:51:48, 0:51:50]: Thought I heard something. All right. [0:51:51, 0:52:04]: Well, let's go ahead and um and um and call for a vote. So uh yes in favor of reimbursing the signed feat as part of the facade grant. So Barber, you'll need to speak to that, and then the rest of us will show our hand if we're in favor of it. [0:52:05, 0:52:06]: Yes. [0:52:07, 0:52:13]: Great. Um all right, so I think the motion passes. It looks unanimous. Thank you, everyone. [0:52:15, 0:52:18]: Uh Art, anything else uh to share with the board? [0:52:18, 0:52:19]: Uh no, that's it. [0:52:20, 0:52:20]: Very good. [0:52:20, 0:52:27]: Thanks again. All right, next item on the agenda is uh city staff updates. So Mr. Peterson, if you want you have the floor. [0:52:32, 0:52:32]: Okay. [0:52:34, 0:52:38]: All right. Thanks a lot, Roger. I don't have an update uh for now. I sent [0:52:38, 0:52:44]: You all uh templates for the facade grant and uh some other documents relating to that. [0:52:45, 0:52:59]: And um help you all receive those. If you didn't, please let me know. Uh Roger, I had a quick question for you regarding the IGA. Has there ever been an IGA between the DDA and the city? Or will this be possibly the first one? [0:53:00, 0:53:01]: Um [0:53:02, 0:53:21]: Maybe um uh councilman Gadd, I might defer that to you because I think you have a longer history. There may have been an IGA with the earlier incarnation of the DDA, but I'm not aware of one that has been in place since the DDA was reconstituted, which I think was around 2014, 2015, something. [0:53:21, 0:53:30]: Uh 2015, I think we started back up. Um Miss Holiday, didn't we have an IGA? We hadn't or was that just an agreement with the chair? [0:53:31, 0:53:39]: With uh with uh Mr. W JT Williams. It was just an IGA for his position, or did we have an IGA? [0:53:39, 0:53:41]: Originally. That was before [0:53:41, 0:53:42]: I think I we started [0:53:44, 0:53:48]: We had a new g uh D DA established in twenty fifteen. That's when I came on. [0:53:49, 0:53:51]: In twenty fourteen, I was working on. [0:53:53, 0:54:06]: taking care of that old DDA um issue that we had. Do you recall that that there was an IGA at that time? The the agreement with him was as executive director, but not with the board. [0:54:07, 0:54:09]: As a whole. Okay. [0:54:09, 0:54:12]: So we I don't believe we've had an IGA. [0:54:12, 0:54:14]: And you know [0:54:15, 0:54:16]: Um [0:54:16, 0:54:18]: I don't believe we've had one in the past, no. [0:54:19, 0:54:19]: Okay. [0:54:20, 0:54:23]: And if it if it stipulates to certain things, um [0:54:23, 0:54:26]: I don't know how mayor and council will feel about it. [0:54:27, 0:54:28]: But you know [0:54:28, 0:54:30]: I'm definitely open to it. [0:54:31, 0:54:32]: Okay. [0:54:33, 0:54:38]: And I've already sent an email asking them about the IGA. What what are thoughts on, you know? [0:54:38, 0:54:44]: So we can just lay out things so the DDA can, you know, be assured that these are [0:54:45, 0:54:50]: things that we will continue to do as a city. Okay. Now uh council member again I have a question for you. [0:54:50, 0:54:55]: Does uh would it be best if the DDA would provide you with a template first? [0:54:56, 0:55:10]: So you can show it to council to see what what their views are on that on that template or on that example. Well, exactly. Okay so I just threw out that we discussed possibly in IDA, but the DDA would definitely have to draft. [0:55:10, 0:55:24]: Um immersion first prior to I wouldn't just yeah, absolutely okay. All right, just checking so like a quick little summary of okay. Okay, so Roger, I'll I'll send you uh an example. [0:55:25, 0:55:25]: Um [0:55:27, 0:55:29]: And then we can get it to to Councilwoman Gantt. [0:55:29, 0:55:30]: Excellent. [0:55:30, 0:55:31]: Thank you. [0:55:31, 0:55:34]: Mm-hmm. Anything else for the groups, Regison? [0:55:34, 0:55:35]: That's it. [0:55:35, 0:55:36]: All right, thank you. [0:55:36, 0:55:39]: I d I never got anything, Mr. Peterson. If you sent it to [0:55:41, 0:55:43]: I never got anything from you. [0:55:43, 0:55:57]: I can forward it to you, Samiqua. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I'll send it to the whole board. Okay. Thank you. It was just sent to those of us that were working on the uh facade grant um work. [0:55:57, 0:56:00]: But it'll it'll I'll I'll send it out to everybody now. [0:56:01, 0:56:02]: Thank you. [0:56:03, 0:56:12]: All right, next up is the um Main Street Advisory Board updates. Uh so Barber, I'll start with you and then we can turn it over to Kira unless you want to reverse that. [0:56:14, 0:56:18]: Yes, please go to Kira. Um I unfortunately had to miss the last meeting. [0:56:19, 0:56:21]: Okay. All right, Kira, you have the floor. [0:56:22, 0:56:38]: Okay, um good evening everyone. Um I just have a a very quick update with the um Main Street program. Um because of COVID, we haven't been as public with our programs and community activities, but we have been [0:56:38, 0:56:41]: Um working behind the scenes on several projects. [0:56:42, 0:56:43]: Uh we are um [0:56:44, 0:56:51]: Moving forward with the alleyway uh revitalization project that is um the area that is located. [0:56:51, 0:56:54]: between Martin Luther King Singer Heritage Trail [0:56:54, 0:56:55]: And Burke Street. [0:56:56, 0:57:04]: Um that particular program project rather is in the um design phase as far as the engineering is concerned. [0:57:05, 0:57:12]: So we're just waiting to um get those drawing back drawings back from um Falcon Design who is um the [0:57:12, 0:57:16]: design um engineering company that is working with us on that. [0:57:16, 0:57:17]: particular project. [0:57:17, 0:57:21]: Um we are also moving forward with. [0:57:21, 0:57:27]: Um the revitalization of um one fourteen Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. [0:57:27, 0:57:29]: Which is a um [0:57:30, 0:57:31]: City owned. [0:57:31, 0:57:37]: Building in the downtown area that had been um without a tenant for [0:57:37, 0:57:42]: Um several years and was um pretty much an eyesore in the downtown area. [0:57:42, 0:57:54]: So we are working to revitalize that particular site so that it we can attract a business, preferably retailer restaurant, to that particular location. [0:57:54, 0:58:01]: Uh we are also working on the transitioning of the Ted Strickland Community Center. [0:58:01, 0:58:02]: to um [0:58:02, 0:58:05]: Беку майт. [0:58:05, 0:58:14]: Program office, or rather the downtown program office, which would house the Main Street program, economic development. [0:58:14, 0:58:28]: and also serve as a welcome center for the downtown area in the city of Stockbridge. So we're got three construction projects that are in the works at this point. [0:58:29, 0:58:37]: And we are also preparing for our um annual planning. Um one of the requirements for the Main Street program is to [0:58:37, 0:58:39]: do an annual um [0:58:40, 0:58:42]: Working ri and planning retreat. [0:58:42, 0:58:48]: And our board at our last meeting, which was held on um February twelfth. [0:58:49, 0:58:57]: has made the request that I come to the Downtown Development Authority Board to ask that this year's retreat [0:58:57, 0:59:17]: Um be a joint retreat, a joint planning retreat with the Downtown Development Authority and the Main Street Advisory Board. We are excited about the new leadership and the direction that the DDA is going at this time, and we feel that it's definitely opportune, would be opportune. [0:59:17, 0:59:22]: For us to come together, the two groups come together to start. [0:59:22, 0:59:24]: Um with our planning for um [0:59:25, 0:59:26]: Long range. [0:59:26, 0:59:33]: So I would just put that out there to you all and um if that is something that you all would desire as well. [0:59:34, 0:59:38]: I will um work with you all so that we can um put that. [0:59:38, 0:59:40]: um planning session together. [0:59:41, 0:59:42]: And um [0:59:42, 0:59:50]: That should be happening within the next few months. So if that's something that you all would like to do, we'll definitely start that planning. [0:59:52, 0:59:54]: And um that is all that I have right now. [0:59:56, 0:59:58]: Thank you, Kira. Um [0:59:58, 1:00:12]: Any any discussion on Cira's updates specifically? I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on uh you know that what I guess what I'd maybe call a strategic planning session, a joint planning session between the two groups, the DDA and the Main Street Advisory Board. [1:00:13, 1:00:17]: Sure. I think that is an awesome idea. I think it'll be great for um [1:00:18, 1:00:20]: Us to be on the same page and be moving in the same direction. [1:00:21, 1:00:22]: Right. [1:00:22, 1:00:23]: Uh Ditto. [1:00:25, 1:00:26]: I agree. I agree. [1:00:27, 1:00:29]: Awesome. Okay. [1:00:29, 1:00:31]: This is fabulous. [1:00:31, 1:00:35]: Um so I will um get in contact um [1:00:35, 1:00:37]: with um Roger. [1:00:37, 1:00:45]: And we will um look at the calendar and um we'll start uh working on [1:00:45, 1:00:48]: Um calendaring this particular session. [1:00:48, 1:00:55]: And um then we'll move forward from there and make sure that we give you all updates on um the plans for that particular session. [1:00:56, 1:01:02]: Uh Kira, I have a question that what I'm sorry. Um someone's starting to speak. [1:01:03, 1:01:06]: Well, I had a question as well, but go ahead. Um [1:01:07, 1:01:10]: All right. So my question was uh what [1:01:10, 1:01:18]: Uh what amount of time are we kind of considering? Um I know that that has sometimes ranged from a half a day, full day. [1:01:18, 1:01:23]: overnight type thing or whatever. So what what do you have in mind, Kira, as far as the duration? [1:01:24, 1:01:27]: Right. As part of our um accreditation process. [1:01:27, 1:01:34]: We have to dedicate at least four hours to um annual planning with regard to the Main Street program. [1:01:34, 1:01:38]: So um we have in the past had um [1:01:39, 1:01:45]: Um session, you know, half day sessions that we have conducted on the weekend to ensure [1:01:46, 1:01:49]: that um everyone was um able to attend. [1:01:50, 1:01:53]: Um so we would like to have um at least reserve [1:01:53, 1:01:56]: Like to reserve at least four hours for that. [1:01:56, 1:01:57]: Um [1:01:57, 1:01:58]: Мірень [1:01:58, 1:02:05]: Now, as far as the itinerary is concerned, there may be I don't know if there are things that D DA would want to [1:02:06, 1:02:13]: um work on um you know that wouldn't require that much time but we are required to have a four hour session. [1:02:14, 1:02:15]: Thank you. [1:02:16, 1:02:16]: Council McGain. [1:02:19, 1:02:21]: Thank you. Um [1:02:21, 1:02:25]: Cura Cura's I mean, Main Street's um [1:02:25, 1:02:29]: retreats are very enlightening. The ones that I have attended. [1:02:29, 1:02:31]: I'm I haven't p attended any lately. [1:02:31, 1:02:33]: But I think that it would be a [1:02:33, 1:02:34]: Tremendous. [1:02:35, 1:02:42]: of us it would be outstanding if we could join in with Main Street um being that they are in the downtown [1:02:43, 1:02:45]: The D DA's map errors. [1:02:45, 1:02:53]: Um I also uh Ms. Braggs, I wanted to ask you about the building. You mentioned one fourteen Main Street, I believe. [1:02:53, 1:02:55]: That's the one. [1:02:55, 1:03:04]: Councilwoman Gantt, um, you froze on my um screen for a few minutes. So I didn't hear the first part of your question. Would you mind uh re [1:03:04, 1:03:05]: Um [1:03:05, 1:03:13]: Asking again, please. Sure. Well, first I was commending Main Street's retreats actually and was stating that I think it's a great idea if [1:03:13, 1:03:17]: Main Street and DDA join forces to have that retreat. I I think that would be awesome. [1:03:17, 1:03:25]: Um, the ones that I did go to early on, I thought were really, really good. Um, but my question really was about 114 Main Street. [1:03:26, 1:03:30]: Um yes. Where are you at renovating that? [1:03:30, 1:03:35]: Um I will I'm glad it's being done right now, but I was actually gonna ask the DDA. [1:03:36, 1:03:43]: um the development authority to I saw something recently in another city in Henry County where the DDA [1:03:43, 1:03:48]: took a building and white boxed it and then but they held on to it for a couple of years, but they sold it. [1:03:49, 1:03:51]: Um, I was doing a title thing for it. [1:03:52, 1:03:52]: And so [1:03:53, 1:03:53]: Um [1:03:54, 1:03:55]: Where are we right now? [1:03:56, 1:03:59]: Where is Main Street right now with the one fourteen building? [1:04:00, 1:04:04]: Okay, um we have actually um just recently hosted [1:04:04, 1:04:13]: A meeting with um the city manager, our economic development director, Mr. Peterson, and our facilities manager to [1:04:13, 1:04:15]: Um, look at the um [1:04:15, 1:04:19]: Initial quotes that we've received from different um general contractors. [1:04:20, 1:04:22]: Um, we have another meeting scheduled this week. [1:04:23, 1:04:24]: Um to [1:04:24, 1:04:29]: Um, finalize the procurement process that we need to go through in order to [1:04:29, 1:04:30]: Um select [1:04:30, 1:04:32]: Um a general contractor for that work. [1:04:33, 1:04:36]: But we did just some initial estimates to just kind of see. [1:04:36, 1:04:38]: Um, how much [1:04:38, 1:04:41]: Um, we were looking at with regard to costs for the interior. [1:04:42, 1:04:48]: our work and then the roof work as well. The roof is the the main concern for this particular [1:04:48, 1:04:51]: Um project because it is in such bad shape. [1:04:51, 1:04:56]: Um so we're right now at the pricing stage and then um [1:04:56, 1:04:59]: hopefully we'll be moving to actually trying to [1:04:59, 1:05:03]: Hire a general contractor within the next two months or so. [1:05:04, 1:05:05]: Okay. [1:05:05, 1:05:09]: And in regards to that, are you just white boxing it? [1:05:09, 1:05:23]: Is that yes, it's gonna be just a white box situation. Um we want the grease trap attached to that. I know we at one point we thought it was a grease trap there, but it is not for the other building. Can it attach? Is it attached? What's the story there? [1:05:23, 1:05:28]: Um there is a grease trap at the rear of that building and it can be attached. [1:05:28, 1:05:30]: Um, to that building. [1:05:30, 1:05:34]: Um the you know the plumbing infrastructure would have to be put in because right now [1:05:35, 1:05:37]: Ідезна, імен до з позиціон бин. [1:05:38, 1:05:41]: One fourteen, it is not attached to one fourteen. [1:05:41, 1:05:44]: So um it would have to, you know, be plumbed. [1:05:45, 1:05:46]: to um [1:05:46, 1:05:51]: To service that particular address, um, which you know is an option. [1:05:52, 1:05:53]: So um [1:05:54, 1:06:01]: depend on what you know that's excellent. Listen, I I'm I'm glad it's being done. I know we looked at it earlier on. Um and you I think you were there. [1:06:02, 1:06:05]: When it was raining we had to get the lock changed in order to get in, but [1:06:05, 1:06:08]: That's really good. Um [1:06:09, 1:06:19]: I was gonna bring that up tonight with the DDA. I didn't know you guys had started had gotten gotten that far in the process because uh what again, one of the cities in um Henry County. [1:06:19, 1:06:21]: The downtown develop Main Street is [1:06:22, 1:06:24]: The downtown development authority. [1:06:25, 1:06:25]: Had [1:06:26, 1:06:27]: Done the same exact thing. [1:06:28, 1:06:29]: But they also did it. [1:06:30, 1:06:32]: With the thought of [1:06:32, 1:06:36]: Um, sell in the building. They didn't sell it until about [1:06:36, 1:06:37]: Um [1:06:39, 1:06:42]: for two years later, but they sold it at a profit. [1:06:42, 1:06:43]: Um [1:06:45, 1:06:55]: which then went to that DDA. So I'm hoping that the DDA will come up with, you know, future projects that they can do the same on real estate projects. Right. Kind of like what Madison did. [1:06:56, 1:06:57]: Right. [1:06:57, 1:07:02]: And um, you know, that is what we're looking forward to in Stockbridge as well. [1:07:03, 1:07:04]: Um, you know. [1:07:04, 1:07:08]: holding on to the building in in some way so that we can [1:07:08, 1:07:13]: kind of control type of business goes into that particular location. [1:07:13, 1:07:19]: you know, we don't want to s sell it and see another office building placed in the downtown. [1:07:19, 1:07:21]: We're looking for restaurant or retail. [1:07:22, 1:07:23]: So um [1:07:23, 1:07:28]: I think that that building is going to be we would like to see that building be a partnership between [1:07:29, 1:07:34]: the main street program and the D DA and you know, iron out all of those details. And that's something [1:07:34, 1:07:37]: That would be the one of the number one um [1:07:38, 1:07:40]: Topics for our joint retreat. [1:07:42, 1:07:45]: Okay. So there is there an after repair value? [1:07:46, 1:07:51]: For the one fourteen y you Main Street is thinking we will lease it, not sell it. [1:07:51, 1:07:54]: That's the ultimate goal right now. Do you know? [1:07:55, 1:08:00]: That that would be my recommendation. Again, that's something that, you know, we can tackle at the retreat. [1:08:00, 1:08:09]: and be able to, you know, d discuss it full scale. But it would be my recommendation to lease the building um and see um [1:08:09, 1:08:14]: what long term tenant we might be able to find, whether it's a restaurant or retail. [1:08:14, 1:08:18]: And then maybe go into discussions about, you know, the cell of the building. But [1:08:18, 1:08:21]: I would prefer to see it a leased space. [1:08:21, 1:08:27]: So that we can make sure that we get the the proper mix of retail and restaurant in the downtown area. [1:08:30, 1:08:31]: Okay, thank you. [1:08:33, 1:08:36]: Mm-hmm. Now did you ask me about cost or [1:08:36, 1:08:38]: Did I hear you incorrectly? [1:08:39, 1:08:45]: You did ask about cost. Well, I did ask about cost. Well in fact, uh well there was a question about cost. [1:08:45, 1:08:53]: Actually, the question was, is there an um after repair value for one fourteen where they're gonna lease and sell it? But I the cost in regards to that. [1:08:54, 1:09:07]: Is it come what budget is it coming from? Is it coming from Main Street or is it something that the DDA can help with? I'm just just curious that where the funds are coming, which listen, I think it's an excellent idea. I want it. [1:09:07, 1:09:17]: I think we should have done it a lot a while ago. Um right. Um and I I really, you know, I met about this last year. Well, yeah, it was in 2020. [1:09:18, 1:09:18]: Um [1:09:19, 1:09:23]: But I'm glad to see something happening. I'm I'm really excited about that. And I think we can get [1:09:24, 1:09:30]: some pretty good tenants in there considering we have the amphitheater. So is it something that we need to ask for in a budget? [1:09:31, 1:09:33]: Or is it already budgeted for? [1:09:34, 1:09:40]: Um this is something that uh that we'll be talking about at a meeting that we have scheduled on Thursday. [1:09:40, 1:09:45]: Um I uh and uh Mr. Peterson might want to also um [1:09:45, 1:09:46]: Chime in on this, but [1:09:47, 1:09:51]: We're going to probably be going coming forward to the city council. [1:09:52, 1:09:54]: Um once the actual um [1:09:55, 1:09:58]: funding source has been um pinpointed. There are [1:09:58, 1:09:58]: Um [1:09:59, 1:10:11]: two funding sources and one of those being um a splash funded project. So uh we'll be coming to the city council um pretty soon with um a recommendation [1:10:11, 1:10:15]: or rather a proposal with regard to funding this particular um project. [1:10:17, 1:10:18]: Thank you. [1:10:19, 1:10:20]: Okay. [1:10:25, 1:10:27]: Mr. Peterson, anything to add to that? [1:10:29, 1:10:34]: All right. And Mr. Sears, it looks like you were trying to come on. Did you have a comment or question? [1:10:40, 1:10:46]: Yeah, I'm not hearing you and you're still on mute. Um anyone else? Any um comments or questions for um [1:10:47, 1:10:48]: The uh May Street update. [1:10:51, 1:10:57]: Uh there is a comment from the chat. We don't usually monitor this, but I have it over here so uh the [1:10:57, 1:11:00]: Question is asked, is the city looking to purchase [1:11:00, 1:11:04]: Raw land to develop for housing or commercial buildings. [1:11:05, 1:11:09]: I think that's a little out of scope for the the topic we were just covering. [1:11:09, 1:11:15]: Um I uh ki uh Council McGann is did do you wanna take that question? [1:11:17, 1:11:28]: Well, anything dealing with personnel, litigation, and real estate is personal and confidential, and we discussed that in executive session. Um [1:11:28, 1:11:33]: But and that [1:11:34, 1:11:44]: my answer to that. I can't really discuss it and we haven't really been talking of that nature right now. So I I wish I could, but I can't. [1:11:45, 1:11:45]: Right. [1:11:46, 1:11:47]: Thank you. [1:11:48, 1:12:05]: All right, uh we'll move on to the next item on the agenda. So there's no it it I I will say there's um not much more we well let me just move on to the uh new business. There was no new business, although there is an item I wanna bring to the board that came up today. Um [1:12:06, 1:12:26]: Under old business, it's really just the purchase, uh, the pending and purchases sale agreement. It was signed uh January 31st. I think it's still being circulated for signature. Uh, I have confirmed with um city manager Mr. Knighton that we are still working with Mr. Mike Williams. Um uh Mr. Williams also gave [1:12:26, 1:12:39]: gave us the name of the attorney that would be representing the buyer. So that's as far as we know, it's still in motion, but we do not yet have a closing date for the transaction. [1:12:39, 1:12:50]: Um and as far as the second item on the agenda, the review of JLL and TSW, that's the I those are the items that I mentioned earlier in my meeting with Mr. McRae that he will be reviewing those two contracts. [1:12:51, 1:12:51]: Any [1:12:52, 1:12:54]: Questions or comments on those two updates? [1:12:56, 1:12:56]: Sure if [1:12:57, 1:13:01]: You s um Roger, you said that it was still being routed for signature. Is this signature [1:13:03, 1:13:04]: By city officials. [1:13:05, 1:13:10]: Um I've signed it, Mr. Schweigert signed it, so I think the DDA has [1:13:10, 1:13:27]: satisfied, you know, the signatures as far as the uh purchase and sale agreement. I I wasn't even aware that there was anything else pending but um till Mr till Bob mentioned it to uh today. But I I actually do recall there was a a mention of that in some of the earlier email threads about the [1:13:27, 1:13:28]: uh transaction. But [1:13:29, 1:13:35]: The the part I'm not the part that's pending now and and and and and Ms. McCray has mentioned this. So at this stage it's it's um [1:13:36, 1:13:41]: The buyer has the option for a due diligence. So if they want to inspect the building or do anything, you know, to [1:13:41, 1:13:42]: Mm-hmm. [1:13:43, 1:13:55]: you know, check, do their due diligence before they're ready to close. This is the period in which they have that option. And I think there is a 60-day period from the time it is signed, which I mark as January 31st. [1:13:55, 1:14:14]: Um, I don't know if that got delayed because you know Bob's signature may have been a little bit later. Uh, but in any case, it's six I it's at the earliest would be 60 days from January 31st to 2023. We have to complete the transaction. Now, of course, the parties can agree to delay that if needed, but right now that's the [1:14:15, 1:14:16]: That's the going assumption. [1:14:18, 1:14:20]: So um can anyone [1:14:21, 1:14:23]: Mr. Peterson or uh Councilwoman Gantt. [1:14:23, 1:14:24]: Can you all [1:14:24, 1:14:35]: add some wisdom in terms of where things are right now. Has it been completely signed? I are we within the due diligence period? And is it and is that as of January thirty first or some date after that? [1:14:40, 1:14:49]: I can consider that. I'm not certain I would have to get an update on that. And I what I'll go ahead and make note and ask Mr. Nine to give me an update so I can forward it to you all. [1:14:50, 1:14:51]: Okay. Thank you. [1:14:51, 1:14:54]: I see Miss Holiday was trying to be recognized. [1:14:55, 1:15:05]: Uh the clerk's office does have a fully executed copy. I believe it is as was stated, Mr. Sylvain is in the sixty day. [1:15:05, 1:15:11]: area where he will determine and then I think a date will be set after that expires. [1:15:13, 1:15:14]: Or before then. [1:15:15, 1:15:18]: Right. Thank you. Yeah, so yeah, Roger, so I just wanted some clarification'cause it [1:15:18, 1:15:26]: It was my understanding that everything had been signed and that, you know, nothing else was being routed per se, but that it was the sixty day [1:15:26, 1:15:28]: Uh due diligence period. [1:15:28, 1:15:31]: Thank you. Sorry if I caused any confusion with that. No, that's right. [1:15:32, 1:15:36]: All right, any other comments um regarding any of the updates? [1:15:39, 1:15:45]: Right. Um I'll open it up for general discussion. I do have an item, but uh does anyone else have anything they want to bring to the board? [1:15:49, 1:15:51]: Yes, I motion that we [1:15:52, 1:15:54]: have business cards created for [1:15:54, 1:15:55]: The DDA members. [1:15:56, 1:15:57]: Mm-hmm. [1:15:58, 1:16:02]: So we have a motion on the table for business cards uh printed for the DDA. [1:16:02, 1:16:03]: I second. [1:16:04, 1:16:06]: That was Councilwoman Gantt. [1:16:06, 1:16:08]: Yes, we've had some in the past. [1:16:08, 1:16:10]: Thank you. [1:16:11, 1:16:13]: All right, any further discussion? [1:16:14, 1:16:15]: Uh yeah, I just um [1:16:17, 1:16:18]: Uh go ahead, Barber. [1:16:19, 1:16:22]: Okay. Um just as far as contact information. [1:16:23, 1:16:24]: What would be listed? [1:16:28, 1:16:33]: I would say definitely um DA email address. [1:16:35, 1:16:36]: Okay. So not our personal phones. [1:16:39, 1:16:42]: No. I I w well I wouldn't recommend that. What do you all think? [1:16:43, 1:16:46]: No, yeah, that was gonna be my concern. I'm on board with that. [1:16:48, 1:16:49]: Probably just your email. [1:16:51, 1:16:51]: Sounds good. [1:16:52, 1:16:52]: I agree. [1:16:55, 1:16:56]: All right. [1:16:57, 1:17:17]: I I I would I guess just to add to that point, I would be fine with, you know, I'm using my personal self or DDA business. I'd be fine with listing my phone number for that purpose. If I'm handing someone my business card, I'd want them or you know, I'd want them to be able to reach me by phone. But I would say if anything, maybe we could leave that up to each individual. [1:17:17, 1:17:20]: to decide what they want on there, you know. [1:17:21, 1:17:25]: Uh but uh I'm in favor of it as far as uh business cards in general. [1:17:28, 1:17:30]: Now definitely we have a question in terms of [1:17:32, 1:17:34]: Is it going to be that logo that for the D DA? [1:17:34, 1:17:36]: Would this go through the sea? [1:17:36, 1:17:40]: Or something that we would do outside of the city. How was it done b previously? [1:17:41, 1:17:42]: Anyone know? [1:17:45, 1:17:49]: Well, you you bring up an interesting point and maybe want to speak to this [1:17:49, 1:17:50]: I'll try to do that. [1:17:51, 1:18:11]: Rap, thank you. Go ahead, can go ahead, Council McKay. All right, thank you. The DDA in the past had a website. Well, I don't know if it was a website, but they definitely had a Facebook page that we never took control over. I believe we reached out to that individual and we have to go back and look at the minutes for that. Um, we also [1:18:11, 1:18:12]: Also have a logo. [1:18:13, 1:18:15]: Um and [1:18:15, 1:18:15]: Um [1:18:16, 1:18:21]: You know, I think that we could still use that logo unless you wanted to change it. Um [1:18:22, 1:18:22]: But [1:18:23, 1:18:40]: That's as much as we have with that. We really didn't get back in contact with those particular people. I believe that the old the first DDA established that. Um and Mr. JC Williams knew the person who set everything up. [1:18:40, 1:18:41]: So [1:18:42, 1:18:50]: That's where we are. And and we can go back and try to reach back out to that individual so that we can take control over our social media as well as. [1:18:51, 1:18:58]: determine whether or not we want to keep that logo. But the logo belongs to the city. I mean to this to the DDA as well as any other [1:18:59, 1:19:03]: because it was paid with DDA funds. So it all belongs to the DDA. [1:19:03, 1:19:06]: It's just we we haven't had the access of it. [1:19:09, 1:19:14]: Well, thank you. Uh the point I was gonna add about the logo is um, you know, and I've been [1:19:14, 1:19:15]: Kind of [1:19:15, 1:19:22]: holding on some things that are not as high a priority for these meetings just in the interest of time, but [1:19:22, 1:19:35]: I'm I'm not a big fan of the logo. It doesn't really represent Stockbridge or you know the type of uh city that we are. It's just uh weird sort of corporate logo. It looks like it got for something from you know clipart. [1:19:35, 1:19:43]: Um, so I'd be more interested in having a logo or an image that aligns with the city's logo. [1:19:43, 1:19:51]: Um, you know, where community connects and maybe some version of that that incorporates the DDA to show the partnership between the city and the DDA. [1:19:51, 1:20:11]: And so that could be a stalling, not to stall it, but that could be a point to consider before we go and have prison business cards printed is maybe then we need to accelerate the idea of maybe updating the DDA logo so that you know it's more unified. That's that's my point on that. But as far as business cards in general, I'm I'm I think it's a good idea. [1:20:14, 1:20:14]: Sure. [1:20:15, 1:20:16]: Other discussion? [1:20:17, 1:20:19]: That sound uh that sounds I understand, but [1:20:19, 1:20:21]: How you why you would say that. Um I'm open to [1:20:21, 1:20:23]: Looking at a a new logo. [1:20:23, 1:20:24]: Um, you know, that [1:20:25, 1:20:27]: Incorporates all those things that you mentioned. [1:20:27, 1:20:29]: Absolutely correct part of this process. [1:20:29, 1:20:37]: Any other discussion? We have a we have a motion for uh business cards for the DDA and it was seconded. Um any other discussion? [1:20:39, 1:20:45]: All right, we'll go ahead and uh move to a vote. So all those in favor, show your hands or Barber if you'll say yes. [1:20:46, 1:20:47]: Yes. [1:20:47, 1:20:48]: All right. [1:20:49, 1:20:52]: And it looks to be unanimous. All right, great. Thank you, everyone. [1:20:53, 1:20:55]: Um any other general discussion or anything for the board? [1:20:56, 1:20:57]: and there's connectivity. [1:20:59, 1:21:19]: Um the item I wanted to bring up was I would just send it via email today and it's just the directors and officers insurance uh is come coming due in April. I would just like the board's review of the policy just to uh see if there's any interest in changing the terms of the policy. [1:21:19, 1:21:28]: I would say that to move forward with renewing the policy as it was last year, but I wanted to give you all the opportunity to uh chime in on that if you felt that we needed to. [1:21:28, 1:21:48]: um add any coverage or possibly remove any coverage compared to what we had last year. So please take a look at your email and see if there's any interest in making any edits. But we do we do need to move on that fairly quickly. So if you can let me know say by next week. If I don't hear from anyone, then we will move forward with renewing the policy [1:21:48, 1:22:01]: policy as it was last year. Touched on a little bit of my uh question. Yes. Hey, do you know um when we got the policy kind of was it just something we went online and and [1:22:01, 1:22:10]: in order or was there like an insurance broker or someone who walked us through'cause I'm not I can read it, but I don't know that I have the knowledge yet to determine if [1:22:11, 1:22:13]: the language really [1:22:13, 1:22:13]: Covers [1:22:14, 1:22:16]: Adequately, you know what I mean? [1:22:16, 1:22:17]: Right. [1:22:17, 1:22:32]: I I don't know. Uh I know that since I have joined the DDA, which was uh probably it's been this will be my third or fourth year that I've been involved in renewing the policy. It was just a renewal of the previous year's policy. So I'm not sure. [1:22:32, 1:22:34]: when it was ever um [1:22:35, 1:22:53]: You know, like whether we went through a broker, if we had a consultant that kind of helped us, well, you need to have this or you don't need to have that. I d that I don't know. If you would like them and if so you think maybe it might be a good opportunity to re revisit that? I mean, kinda like those homeowners who have insurance policy and don't realize that they don't have flood insurance, you know? [1:22:54, 1:22:55]: I just [1:22:55, 1:23:02]: Um well you I don't know. Just the point of discussion, if if it hasn't been reviewed, um [1:23:03, 1:23:09]: by anyone who really has the the you know, the bandwidth to really know what what needs to be in that policy. [1:23:10, 1:23:10]: Right. [1:23:10, 1:23:11]: Um [1:23:11, 1:23:31]: I'm I'm I'm open to that and and I think it's it's it's it's never a bad idea to especially with insurance, it can be a high ticket item, although this one I think it's somewhere in the fifteen hundred dollar uh amount for the for for all the for the entire policy for all for the entire board. What is it about? Um so it it's it's not a huge cost compared to other insurance. [1:23:31, 1:23:39]: terms. So I'm I'm open to that. I'm just not sure who to go to who would provide expertise on something like that. [1:23:40, 1:23:40]: Yeah. [1:23:42, 1:24:02]: Uh let me ask uh Mr. Peterson. I know we lean on you a lot. Do you have any uh experience with um who might be able to review the insurance policy or whether the because I'm sure the city has a similar policy for you know other maybe some of the other boards that are operated by the city. [1:24:02, 1:24:04]: I would I would consult the city. [1:24:04, 1:24:05]: Yeah. Um [1:24:06, 1:24:09]: first and uh see what they have to say about it. [1:24:09, 1:24:13]: And if not, then we can go outside, but this we could lean on the city for that. [1:24:14, 1:24:15]: And um [1:24:15, 1:24:18]: Check with um Tony McCray as well. [1:24:18, 1:24:20]: Oh, first chip with the city. [1:24:20, 1:24:40]: All right, then I'll forward to you, Mr. Peterson, what I sent to the board today. And I'll also forward it to Mr. McRae and just ask his opinion as to you know what are the key elements that we should consider or you know policy. Thank thanks a lot, Roger. Thank you. So that was really the last item I wanted to bring to the board. Um any other uh items uh for the board before [1:24:40, 1:24:41]: before we adjourn. [1:24:44, 1:24:47]: Oh, Roger, one thing that I want to say, I know you mentioned something about um [1:24:48, 1:24:48]: I guess. [1:24:49, 1:24:51]: deals that we may have received from council. [1:24:52, 1:24:52]: Um [1:24:54, 1:24:59]: I don't know if that's something we can that can be given in this meeting or if that's considered personnel. I'm not sure. [1:25:00, 1:25:01]: Um [1:25:01, 1:25:04]: But I think that would be great for members to have that information in terms of [1:25:05, 1:25:05]: Um [1:25:06, 1:25:11]: What's been paid out, if we have any outstanding invoices, you know, what we think the total is going to be. [1:25:12, 1:25:13]: You know. [1:25:15, 1:25:35]: Um, I think Barber will have a good uh accounting of that probably by our next meeting once she gets uh fully set up with uh the bank statements and the software that she's um that we've approved in our January meeting. Um as far as the outstanding invoices that are there, they're they're all um [1:25:35, 1:25:55]: There's nothing out of the ordinary. So there's some commemorative plaques that were the outgoing DDA members. There was uh DDA training, I believe for Sumiqua. There was the conference that we all attended for the downtown conference. And then the only one that's to like an outside vendor is the [1:25:55, 1:26:06]: there there's still an outstanding invoice for the master planning from TSW. They sent they sent us a late invoice back in, I don't know, it was like October for work that they did in July. [1:26:07, 1:26:27]: after we had suspended our work with them, but they had put in a few more hours and they're you know they're needing that. So that that's the only thing that's outstanding. But I've been in regular communication with them to let them know we're we're transitioning to a new treasury. It's just it's fine. We're just gonna be around before we we're done. That those expenses are all kind of regular and part of our budget. [1:26:27, 1:26:30]: So it's it I didn't I didn't think it was anything that needed like [1:26:31, 1:26:41]: you know, the board's approval or discussion unless it's something that's artificial. Understand. Yeah, and specifically I was asking about any invoices paying for uh [1:26:41, 1:26:43]: Represent council representation. [1:26:43, 1:26:47]: Oh by council. I got you. No, we haven't received any yet. [1:26:47, 1:26:48]: Okay. [1:26:48, 1:27:00]: Yeah, he just gave me a general number and um and of where they are to date. And he just said that the majority of the hours are were marked for as it relates to the uh purchase and sale agreement. [1:27:02, 1:27:02]: Thank you. Thank you. [1:27:05, 1:27:15]: I mean he did offer to send me an invoice as of where they are now, but we're so I mean, the the closing is within line of sight and I didn't I I didn't think it was really [1:27:15, 1:27:23]: This will be our second round of bulls. Any added value to have an invoice now and then another invoice in a in a month. [1:27:23, 1:27:25]: All right, any other items for discussion? [1:27:26, 1:27:27]: Right. [1:27:28, 1:27:34]: Seeing none or hearing none, so uh take a motion to adjourn if anyone wants to do so. [1:27:36, 1:27:37]: Some moved. [1:27:37, 1:27:39]: All right. Second. [1:27:40, 1:27:40]: Thank you. [1:27:41, 1:27:45]: All right, we have a motion to adjourn in a second. Any other discussion? [1:27:47, 1:27:50]: All right. All those in favor, either say yes or show your hand. [1:27:50, 1:27:51]: Ah. [1:27:51, 1:27:53]: All right. Very good. [1:27:53, 1:28:02]: Thank you everyone. I really appreciate your time and service to the board. Have a good evening. Good night. Thank you.

--- title: Main Street Advisory Board Meeting date: 2021-02-12 source: 2021-02-12_Main_Street_Advisory_Board_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:13, 0:00:14]: Hello. [0:00:17, 0:00:17]: Right. [0:00:21, 0:00:23]: Hello there. How are you? [0:00:24, 0:00:25]: I'm doing fine. [0:00:27, 0:00:27]: Um [0:00:27, 0:00:29]: This morning. [0:00:33, 0:00:37]: So um you got a Jackie Robinson picture in the background. Is that Jackie Robinson? [0:00:38, 0:00:41]: It is actually um a Negro league, um [0:00:42, 0:00:43]: Oh, Southern League. [0:00:44, 0:00:44]: No soy money. [0:00:45, 0:00:49]: All of them, um, there's somebody picture from each one of the team. [0:00:50, 0:00:52]: Okay. Yeah. Mm-hmm. [0:00:58, 0:00:59]: So how was your trip? [0:01:00, 0:01:01]: My trip. [0:01:02, 0:01:02]: Yeah. [0:01:04, 0:01:04]: Where was I going? [0:01:05, 0:01:07]: Oh, I thought you went out of town this past weekend. [0:01:08, 0:01:11]: Oh no, no, no. I I was recovering from COVID. [0:01:12, 0:01:15]: So I got out I got out of quarantine Saturday. [0:01:15, 0:01:16]: So [0:01:16, 0:01:23]: I remember there was a birthday party that they were wanting you to go to. Right, right. Well I had to I couldn't go to that'cause um [0:01:24, 0:01:25]: I couldn't risk it. [0:01:25, 0:01:27]: My so I missed my grandson's birthday. [0:01:28, 0:01:30]: There was like almost thirty people there, so [0:01:31, 0:01:36]: It was like that was the day that I was coming out of quarantine. Mm-hmm. So [0:01:36, 0:01:37]: You know. [0:01:37, 0:01:41]: So we're gonna I'm gonna celebrate with him and my son's uh [0:01:41, 0:01:43]: Mm-hmm. [0:01:44, 0:01:47]: Well, you'll be able to celebrate at a later time. [0:01:47, 0:01:50]: We say we're saying later and greater. [0:01:50, 0:01:52]: Later and greater. [0:01:52, 0:01:57]: Mm-hmm. Kids um you know, one or two days or a week is eternity, you know. [0:01:57, 0:01:58]: Yeah. [0:01:58, 0:01:59]: Um [0:02:00, 0:02:03]: So, you know, his school is not even [0:02:03, 0:02:04]: Mm. [0:02:05, 0:02:12]: partial that they keep changing it, so there's no consistency, you know. Yeah. But same thing with my um daughter school. [0:02:13, 0:02:15]: But it's seeming that they're um [0:02:16, 0:02:17]: Go into [0:02:18, 0:02:21]: Um, stay vir well, my daughter is staying virtual. [0:02:21, 0:02:23]: Um th for the rest of the year. [0:02:24, 0:02:25]: Is she old enough to [0:02:26, 0:02:26]: By herself. [0:02:27, 0:02:31]: Or you I mean, is she old enough to be by herself or uh Yeah, she's in high school. [0:02:32, 0:02:32]: Oh, okay. [0:02:32, 0:02:33]: Yeah. [0:02:34, 0:02:38]: Um my sister has a kindergartner though and it's wearing her out. [0:02:40, 0:02:40]: Yeah. [0:02:40, 0:02:42]: Wearing her out totally. [0:02:44, 0:02:46]: Yeah, I don't know, it's tough. [0:02:47, 0:02:49]: Hello, how are you? Good morning. [0:02:50, 0:02:51]: More than [0:02:51, 0:02:55]: I um I'm just gonna close my screen while I [0:02:55, 0:03:00]: continue to get my materials ready and join everybody when the meeting starts. [0:03:00, 0:03:02]: Okay, that's fine. Thanks. [0:03:08, 0:03:09]: Okay. [0:03:10, 0:03:11]: Can you hear me? [0:03:11, 0:03:13]: Yes, I can hear you, Mildred. Good morning. [0:03:14, 0:03:17]: I wonder why I'm not being seen. I wonder why you're not seeing the video. [0:03:18, 0:03:22]: Um, it looks like your camera might be closed. [0:03:22, 0:03:23]: No but [0:03:25, 0:03:26]: Thank you, thank you, thank you. [0:03:27, 0:03:28]: It was. [0:03:28, 0:03:30]: I wasn't he paying attention to that. [0:03:30, 0:03:32]: I forget about it because it's sorta new. [0:03:33, 0:03:37]: Yeah. Good morning, good morning, everyone else. Good morning. [0:03:37, 0:03:39]: Here comes Willie, I think. [0:03:40, 0:03:41]: Yeah. [0:03:43, 0:03:50]: Good morning, Willie. Good morning. Good morning. How's everybody doing? I'm okay. Good, good. Good morning, Mr. Knighton. [0:03:51, 0:03:55]: Hello everyone, how are you? Good. [0:04:07, 0:04:08]: I know that um [0:04:10, 0:04:13]: Barber said she might be running a little bit late. [0:04:24, 0:04:26]: Here comes Anika. [0:04:28, 0:04:29]: Hey Annika! [0:04:30, 0:04:33]: Good morning. Good morning. How are you? [0:04:33, 0:04:37]: Great, how are you guys? We're doing great. [0:04:39, 0:04:39]: Yeah. [0:04:47, 0:04:49]: Doing great. [0:05:00, 0:05:04]: We need just two more people so that we can have a quorum here. [0:05:12, 0:05:14]: And we'll be ready to go. [0:05:18, 0:05:21]: It's so cloudy and gray today. Ugh. [0:05:22, 0:05:23]: Um [0:05:23, 0:05:25]: My husband is in [0:05:26, 0:05:27]: Tallahassee. [0:05:28, 0:05:31]: Right now, and he said that it's seventy eight degrees there. [0:05:32, 0:05:33]: Oh wow. [0:05:34, 0:05:40]: But we need guys like this too. I know they're not the best, but they're just funny ones. [0:05:40, 0:05:42]: Always need the rain. [0:05:59, 0:06:08]: Anika Barber said that she um had an emergency this morning at work, but she will try to log on, but she said she'd be late. [0:06:09, 0:06:10]: Okay. [0:06:11, 0:06:12]: We will note that. [0:06:12, 0:06:17]: Okay. And I'm at work as well. I'm trying to pull it up on my computer so I can see better. [0:06:17, 0:06:22]: Um, but I'm on my phone so I apologize for if the sound isn't great. [0:06:22, 0:06:24]: No, that's okay. I can hear you fine. [0:06:25, 0:06:25]: Yeah. [0:06:29, 0:06:37]: Um, I guess we can give it to nine oh five and then we'll begin. Is that fair? Um Mr. Thomas just came on, so we just need one more person. [0:06:37, 0:06:38]: Okay. [0:06:39, 0:06:40]: Good morning. [0:06:40, 0:06:42]: Good morning, how are you? [0:06:43, 0:06:45]: Doing well, a little tired, but you know. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: As always. [0:06:49, 0:06:52]: Do you have a big day yesterday or a big week? [0:06:52, 0:06:56]: Uh a it's it's it's always something in the trenches, so [0:06:56, 0:07:01]: Yeah, always. Sometimes you had to come out of the trenches and try to get some rest. [0:07:02, 0:07:10]: That's true. You had we were talking about self-care um with an organization that I belonged to, Jack and Jill. [0:07:10, 0:07:13]: We had a whole session on self care. [0:07:14, 0:07:18]: Yeah, you can't take yourself out. Uh especially especially uh [0:07:18, 0:07:20]: During these times. Yeah. [0:07:24, 0:07:25]: Every single [0:07:26, 0:07:30]: Oh, I'm sorry. What were you saying, Mr. Tony? I'm just gonna say I I I um [0:07:30, 0:07:33]: Took my uh my shot, so [0:07:33, 0:07:35]: I'm glad of that. So I'm trying to [0:07:36, 0:07:38]: Trying to protect myself as much as possible. [0:07:38, 0:07:45]: Well that's good. Um my father, um, who's a veteran, he was able to get his shot [0:07:45, 0:07:53]: But my mother is on a waiting list. She's actually on three different waiting lists. She's a retired teacher, so [0:07:53, 0:08:03]: They have one list for um they're in Maryland and she does substitute teaching. So the teachers are getting vaccinated there. So they have the substitutes on a [0:08:03, 0:08:04]: waiting list they're gonna [0:08:05, 0:08:08]: Um, vaccinate all of the full time teachers, then substitutes. [0:08:09, 0:08:10]: And um [0:08:11, 0:08:14]: So she's on that waiting list and a couple other ones. [0:08:15, 0:08:18]: So I'm just hoping that she'll get um taken off soon. [0:08:19, 0:08:22]: Yeah. Here I um I'm sorry. [0:08:22, 0:08:25]: Now I'm just gonna say I I hope it did hope this is the answer. [0:08:27, 0:08:28]: I do too. [0:08:29, 0:08:32]: Okay, Linda is saying that her [0:08:36, 0:08:38]: Shut mail. Let me see if I can. [0:08:39, 0:08:50]: try to i just want to share while you're doing that that um cvs and walgreens nationally have just um made available the vaccine to um [0:08:50, 0:08:52]: older adults and um [0:08:53, 0:08:59]: The rollout was literally yesterday. So availability is a little easier. I don't know if you want to share that with your family. [0:08:59, 0:09:02]: Yeah, okay. That's Walgreens everywhere. [0:09:03, 0:09:03]: Yes. [0:09:04, 0:09:05]: No C V S. [0:09:06, 0:09:06]: For sure. [0:09:07, 0:09:09]: All right, I will um [0:09:10, 0:09:14]: Tell my mom that. Let me see if I can send this to Linda. [0:09:15, 0:09:15]: Oh. [0:09:23, 0:09:24]: Mm. [0:09:42, 0:09:45]: Check spam. [0:09:46, 0:09:47]: And [0:09:48, 0:09:50]: Telling her to check her spam and junk. [0:09:58, 0:09:59]: Mm-hmm. [0:10:00, 0:10:03]: Hopefully she'll be able to come in. [0:10:04, 0:10:09]: Okay. Okay. And would Linda then make a quorum or we still wouldn't need additional [0:10:10, 0:10:16]: Members need to be able to do it. So she would make a quorum or um Greg or if some um Barber or Pam comes in. [0:10:17, 0:10:21]: then we have a quorum, but I mean we can go on and get started if you want. [0:10:21, 0:10:25]: And it'll just be, you know, for information purposes until [0:10:25, 0:10:30]: Um we get a quorum to actually vote on everything. [0:10:30, 0:10:33]: Okay. Hi Alan. How are you? [0:10:36, 0:10:38]: Well, how's everyone doing this morning? [0:10:38, 0:10:40]: Morning. Good. [0:10:45, 0:10:56]: All right. Well with that, everyone, I think we should go ahead and begin our um February Main Street Advisory Board meeting um on today, February the twelfth. [0:10:57, 0:11:08]: Um calling the meetings order at 906. Firstly, happy Friday, happy last weekday before weekend of love. So make sure you love on all of your [0:11:08, 0:11:27]: family and um friends from the little bitty ones to medium ones all the way on up make sure that you short you short you share your love with them um so with that welcome um to our guests and um i see mr nighton is on the call as well welcome to the call sir um and to mr uh [0:11:28, 0:11:28]: Alan? [0:11:29, 0:11:49]: Welcome as well. All right. So we're going to uh begin with a quick roll call to see who is present. Um if you are on mute when your name is called, if you can please come off mute and just acknowledge if you are present. If you're unable to come off mute, please indicate in the chat that you are present. Um I do see that's uh Ms. [0:11:49, 0:11:55]: Horton has noted that he is present in the chat. So um when we get to his name, we will acknowledge his presence. [0:11:55, 0:12:00]: Um so we will go um and do our roll call for today. Um [0:12:00, 0:12:01]: Mr. Shamari Firch. [0:12:05, 0:12:06]: Shimari Firch. [0:12:09, 0:12:11]: Willie Hopkins. [0:12:11, 0:12:12]: President. [0:12:13, 0:12:14]: Thank you, sir. [0:12:14, 0:12:18]: Mr. Greg Horton has acknowledged his presence via the Zoom chat. [0:12:20, 0:12:22]: Miss Linda Jones. [0:12:23, 0:12:24]: Is it [0:12:24, 0:12:30]: She's there, she's on a um see where my name is um showing down at the bottom of the screen. [0:12:32, 0:12:37]: I did hear her voice say present. Yeah, that's actually Linda. She's on an um [0:12:37, 0:12:40]: A different um login. But that's her. [0:12:41, 0:12:42]: All right. [0:12:42, 0:12:44]: Thank you, Mr. [0:12:46, 0:12:51]: Anika Potts, I am she, I am present. Miss Mildred Reed? Here, present. [0:12:51, 0:12:52]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:12:53, 0:12:54]: Uh Barber Richardson. [0:12:56, 0:12:57]: Barber Richardson. [0:12:57, 0:13:09]: It was brought to our attention that she is planning to attend but is uh perhaps running late, so we we may be able to circle back to her as the meeting progresses. Ms. Pamela Sanders. [0:13:12, 0:13:13]: Pamela Sanders. [0:13:16, 0:13:19]: And Councilman Alfonso Thomas. [0:13:20, 0:13:20]: President. [0:13:21, 0:13:21]: Thank you, sir. [0:13:22, 0:13:35]: All right, we do have a quorum and we can continue with our meeting. And if we need to make decisions, we are able to. So thank you all. Um, can we please get a volunteer to read our mission statement this morning? [0:13:38, 0:13:40]: Madam Chair, I'll read the mission statement. [0:13:41, 0:13:43]: Thank you, Mr. Hopkins. [0:13:43, 0:13:45]: The Stockbridge Main Street program's mission. [0:13:46, 0:13:48]: Is to design and support. [0:13:48, 0:13:50]: An identifiable downtown historical district. [0:13:51, 0:13:53]: That promotes economic vitality. [0:13:53, 0:13:59]: cultivates artistic expressions, encourages culture enrichment, and nurtures community spirit. [0:14:00, 0:14:05]: Thank you so very much. That is who we are and that's our mission. We're gonna stay on mission. Uh [0:14:05, 0:14:06]: Long term. [0:14:07, 0:14:17]: Uh we're gonna move on with our agenda to our second item, which is to review and approve the agenda for today, February uh 2021. [0:14:17, 0:14:37]: Um, you all should have received our meeting information, agenda, uh, last meeting, as well as financials uh via email prior to this meeting. Uh so if you could take a moment and review that and let us know if you have any questions, concerns, or there's a need uh for discussion. If not. [0:14:37, 0:14:45]: Uh we would love to have a motion to approve the agenda as presented. Yes, Ms. Reed? Sure. Uh I move that we uh [0:14:46, 0:14:48]: Accepted agenda as written. [0:14:50, 0:14:51]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:14:52, 0:14:53]: There are a second. [0:14:53, 0:14:54]: A second. [0:14:56, 0:14:57]: Thank you, sir. [0:14:59, 0:15:15]: All right. We will function with um voting on motions the same as we did attendance. So we will move through uh with those that we know are present to see if they are in favor or opposing the motion to accept the agenda as written. Um Mr. Hopkins. [0:15:16, 0:15:17]: Crew. [0:15:17, 0:15:19]: Thank you. Mr. Hortson. [0:15:22, 0:15:25]: He has stated yes in the chat. Um, Miss Jones. [0:15:31, 0:15:32]: Miss Jones? [0:15:35, 0:15:40]: Okay, we will move on to Ms. Potts. I uh approve. [0:15:40, 0:15:41]: Miss Reed. [0:15:42, 0:15:43]: Approved. [0:15:43, 0:15:46]: Thank you. Yes, Miss Wendell says yes. [0:15:46, 0:15:47]: Thank you. [0:15:48, 0:15:50]: Miss Linda. No, you're fine. [0:15:50, 0:15:52]: And Mr. Thom Thomas. [0:15:52, 0:15:53]: Approved. [0:15:53, 0:16:06]: Thank you, sir. Um the agenda will stand as written, um unanimous by all members. Um I did want to acknowledge that I see that there is a uh a guess. [0:16:06, 0:16:13]: that we did not um acknowledge when we were doing the roll call mr john christian so hello mr christian [0:16:13, 0:16:14]: Hi. [0:16:14, 0:16:17]: Thank you, sir, for joining us today. [0:16:17, 0:16:37]: Um so we will now move on to our third agenda item, which is to review and approve our meeting minutes from our January 2021 meeting. Again, this information was sent prior to the meeting. So if we need to discuss anything regarding it, let's do so. If not, [0:16:37, 0:16:46]: Um we'll give just a moment to look at it. Um, and we would love for a motion to approve it if all is in order. [0:16:52, 0:16:54]: I do have a question. [0:16:54, 0:17:01]: For Miss Glax and for um Miss Lisa. Were you present at our January meeting, Lisa? [0:17:04, 0:17:05]: You're muted. [0:17:08, 0:17:09]: Good morning, everybody. [0:17:10, 0:17:19]: Um no, you guys probably missed me last week. I was out. I had a scheduled appointment out of the office that day, so I was not present. [0:17:20, 0:17:22]: Okay, that's what I thought. Um [0:17:23, 0:17:38]: Ms. Reed, can we um have the um minutes to reflect that Miss Lisa Harad Mohammed was um not present for our January meeting? Presently it shows she was in attendance. Yes. Yes. [0:17:39, 0:17:40]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:17:48, 0:17:55]: Okay. Any other discussion concerns or um needs for revision note observed? [0:17:58, 0:18:00]: Okay, hearing none. [0:18:01, 0:18:05]: Can we have a motion to accept the um [0:18:05, 0:18:06]: Agenda. [0:18:06, 0:18:08]: Minutes. With the noted question. [0:18:08, 0:18:10]: Minutes, I'm sorry, with the note of correction. [0:18:13, 0:18:13]: Mm. Madam Chair. [0:18:15, 0:18:15]: Yes, sir. [0:18:16, 0:18:27]: I rise to uh move that we accept the January eighth, two thousand twenty-one meetings with the necessary corrections in place in the archives of the board meeting for the history of this board. [0:18:28, 0:18:28]: Thank you, sir. [0:18:30, 0:18:31]: We have a second. [0:18:31, 0:18:32]: Happens. [0:18:34, 0:18:35]: A second [0:18:36, 0:18:38]: Thank you, Mr. Thomas. [0:18:38, 0:18:47]: All right, we will now see if we are in favor or opposing this um same as we have previously. Um, Mr. Hopkins. [0:18:48, 0:18:49]: Approve. [0:18:49, 0:18:54]: Thank you, sir. Mr. Horton has stated yes, he approves the minutes. [0:18:55, 0:18:56]: Miss Jones. [0:18:56, 0:18:57]: Approved. [0:18:58, 0:19:02]: Thank you, ma'am. Miss Potts, yes. Miss Reed? Yes. [0:19:03, 0:19:04]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:19:06, 0:19:07]: Mr. Thomas. [0:19:07, 0:19:08]: Yes. [0:19:09, 0:19:10]: Thank you, sir. [0:19:10, 0:19:30]: Uh the uh minutes will um stand as noted with the correction for our archives and records. Um final area or um agenda item that requires our review and final approval is our financial statement from January 2021. [0:19:30, 0:19:34]: Um let's bring our attention to that quickly and um [0:19:34, 0:19:40]: See if there's any discussion and if not, uh we would love for a motion to accept them as written. [0:19:42, 0:19:44]: That's there. [0:19:44, 0:19:45]: Yes, ma'am. [0:19:45, 0:19:52]: Um, I was just going to um bring everyone's attention to the um original total budget column. [0:19:52, 0:19:55]: Um on this income statement. [0:19:55, 0:20:02]: I just wanted to note for everyone that that is the budget that has been approved for. [0:20:02, 0:20:07]: the Main Street program for the um FY twenty twenty one. [0:20:07, 0:20:09]: Um calendar year. [0:20:10, 0:20:11]: Or fiscal year rather. [0:20:12, 0:20:14]: So that is the um [0:20:14, 0:20:19]: column that lists the funds that we will be working with for the remainder of the year. [0:20:22, 0:20:23]: Right. [0:20:26, 0:20:31]: Any questions, concerns, discussion regarding this um new budget? [0:20:39, 0:20:42]: Very little usage, yay. [0:20:43, 0:20:50]: All right. Uh if we do not have any discussion concerns regarding it, can we please have a motion to approve it as presented? [0:20:51, 0:20:51]: Madam Chair. [0:20:52, 0:20:53]: Yes, this support. [0:20:53, 0:20:54]: Mr. Hopkins. [0:20:55, 0:21:02]: Uh that's okay. Me and Grid look alike, so that's my brother from the brother. I know I do this. I don't know why. [0:21:03, 0:21:13]: Uh madam chair, I move that we accept the financial statement ending in January 31st, 2021 and placed in the uh archives for future auditing purposes. [0:21:14, 0:21:17]: Thank you, sir. Do we have a second? [0:21:19, 0:21:21]: I'll second the motion. [0:21:22, 0:21:23]: Thank you, Miss Jones. [0:21:24, 0:21:28]: Okay, we will now take it to a vote. Mr. Ho Mr. Hopkins. [0:21:28, 0:21:28]: Great. [0:21:29, 0:21:33]: Thank you, sir. Mr. Horton approves the financial statement per Zoom. [0:21:34, 0:21:35]: Miss Jones. [0:21:37, 0:21:40]: Thank you, ma'am. Miss Pottshi approved. [0:21:40, 0:21:41]: Miss Reed. [0:21:42, 0:21:42]: Because [0:21:43, 0:21:44]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:21:44, 0:21:45]: And Mr. Thomas. [0:21:46, 0:21:46]: Approved. [0:21:47, 0:21:47]: Thank you. [0:21:48, 0:21:51]: For uh purposes this moves and the uh [0:21:51, 0:21:54]: Budget is approved and ready to go. [0:21:54, 0:22:06]: Before we move on to our next agenda item, I did want to circle back to the attendance really quick to see if there's been any change in the remaining members who were originally marked absent. Is Mr. Shamari Firch on the call? [0:22:08, 0:22:10]: The meeting rather, Mr. Birch. [0:22:11, 0:22:12]: Miss Barber Richardson. [0:22:15, 0:22:16]: Barber Richardson. [0:22:17, 0:22:19]: And Pamela Sanders. [0:22:20, 0:22:22]: Pamela Sanders. [0:22:22, 0:22:23]: Okay, thank you. [0:22:23, 0:22:28]: Um we now turn the meeting over to our Main Street manager for her report, Miss Briggs. [0:22:29, 0:22:32]: Thank you, Madam Chair, and good morning to everyone. [0:22:33, 0:22:43]: on this gray day. Hopefully everyone is doing well and staying safe out there. It's great to see everyone in attendance. [0:22:43, 0:22:48]: Um with regard to my report, we just have a a few um [0:22:49, 0:22:54]: pieces of old business and then uh we will move into um [0:22:54, 0:22:58]: our mural project presentation under old business as well. [0:22:59, 0:22:59]: Um [0:23:00, 0:23:16]: First, um, I just wanted to remind everyone that um we have some board member positions available. Um we still need an arts organization representative, and as you all know, uh we now can cast that web out. [0:23:16, 0:23:21]: that net out a little farther into Henry County. So if you know of [0:23:21, 0:23:24]: an an arts organization um [0:23:25, 0:23:31]: representative who would be interested in serving on the Main Street advisory board. [0:23:31, 0:23:35]: Please ask them to apply. The application is available. [0:23:36, 0:23:42]: on the website, the city's website, and it's a fillable form on the website. It has to be done. [0:23:42, 0:23:43]: Um online. [0:23:44, 0:23:57]: We also need a to fill the position for a landscape architect or interior designer. It can be someone in either one of those professions to serve on the board as well. [0:23:58, 0:24:01]: I would like to also announce that we have a new board member. [0:24:01, 0:24:08]: Um, she will be joining us at our next meeting. Her name is Rocio Camacho. [0:24:08, 0:24:14]: And um some of you may be familiar with um Rocio, she was very active. [0:24:14, 0:24:21]: Um a few years ago with the Main Street program and city events when we were staging the [0:24:22, 0:24:27]: Hispanifest celebration here in the city of Stockbridge in conjunction with Bridge Fest. [0:24:28, 0:24:32]: So she was very active and um in the planning of that event. [0:24:33, 0:24:43]: And she also um has been very helpful to the Main Street program with regard to reaching our Hispanic, Latino and um [0:24:44, 0:24:44]: Um [0:24:44, 0:24:50]: Spanish communities here in the Stockbridge area. She um [0:24:50, 0:24:53]: Helped us when we were working on the RSVP program. [0:24:54, 0:25:04]: um in helping us to bring together um a cultural diverse culturally diverse focus group for the RSVP so she has um [0:25:05, 0:25:15]: Thankfully agreed to be a part of our board and she will be um sitting in the position of a main a business outside of the Main Street district. [0:25:15, 0:25:20]: So um I look forward to welcoming her to our next meeting. [0:25:20, 0:25:26]: in March and um hopefully you all will be able to um [0:25:26, 0:25:35]: get an opportunity to talk with her a little bit offline. If you know Rocio, um be sure to congratulate her and welcome her to the board. [0:25:37, 0:25:44]: Okay, and at this point I would like to um introduce to you all again um Mr. John Christian. [0:25:45, 0:25:50]: He is um a mural artist. Um out of he is based out of Hapeville, Georgia. [0:25:51, 0:25:54]: Um, as you know, we received a um [0:25:54, 0:25:58]: Grant from his organization and I'll let him um [0:25:59, 0:26:04]: tell you a little bit about give you just a um recap of his organization. [0:26:04, 0:26:22]: And then we're going to talk a little bit about the mural concepts that I sent to you all. Again, these are concepts. This is not the final work project. This is just something to kind of get our um minds um moving in the same direction and [0:26:22, 0:26:29]: Uh we will be taking your feedback during the presentation. So um, John, I'd like to hand it over to you. [0:26:29, 0:26:31]: Hello, how's everybody doing? [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: Right. [0:26:33, 0:26:53]: Um our organization basically what we do is um we focus on murals and public art um consulting. And uh we we've started off as a mandate as painting 50 murals in 50 cities in five years. Um I'm up to 31 cities, but I've got 43 murals that we've completed uh just in that time frame. [0:26:53, 0:26:58]: Prior to that, you know, I've had art centers and I've had other organizations throughout the years. [0:26:58, 0:27:01]: Uh this particular project um [0:27:02, 0:27:05]: Me and uh Kier has been working on for over a year now. [0:27:05, 0:27:07]: Uh and um [0:27:07, 0:27:13]: Basically, I'm really looking forward to uh doing this and it's something uniquely different and it's saluting [0:27:14, 0:27:24]: So not only the city, but also uh Daddy King is a possibility and and I think that's uh you know, a great opportunity uh an opportunity for myself as well. [0:27:25, 0:27:26]: So um [0:27:26, 0:27:31]: Anyway, um did you want to talk about the designs uh now or [0:27:31, 0:27:51]: Yes, I'm going to just um refresh everyone's memory as to uh where the murals are targeted um to be placed and then um I will share my screen and we can um just quickly look at each design and then um discuss each one. Everyone should have a copy. [0:27:51, 0:27:54]: of the designs in your meeting materials packet. [0:27:55, 0:27:56]: Um [0:27:56, 0:28:05]: And you will be able to kind of make notes on your document, and we will be able to um discuss. [0:28:05, 0:28:18]: The concepts, whether you like them, whether you don't like them, anything that you'd like to add to the concepts, and we'll discuss those possibilities with John. So let me try to share my screen really quick. [0:28:19, 0:28:20]: Please here. [0:28:22, 0:28:22]: Okay. [0:28:27, 0:28:28]: Okay. [0:28:35, 0:28:36]: Okay. [0:28:36, 0:28:41]: This is um concept that we're gonna call concept number one. [0:28:42, 0:28:54]: Um, this is just a general um stock bridge um welcome sign. It does pay some homage to um Dr. Martin Luther King Senior, Daddy King. [0:28:54, 0:28:58]: Um and just welcoming people to Stockbridge. [0:28:58, 0:29:00]: And then the next one. [0:29:00, 0:29:08]: Is another version of that particular um welcome to Stock Bridge sign. We're calling that number design number two. [0:29:09, 0:29:10]: And [0:29:12, 0:29:14]: This is design number three. [0:29:14, 0:29:27]: Another welcome to Stockbridge um sign, but this kind of um has an homage to trains and we were thinking that this one is more of a a childlike whimsical type design. [0:29:28, 0:29:31]: Um that we could use um [0:29:33, 0:29:34]: And uh oh. [0:29:34, 0:29:36]: Okay, there it is. [0:29:36, 0:29:52]: And then there is no number four. Sorry about that. We misnumbered those. But then we have five and six. These are pictorial designs that give homage to Reverend Martin Luther King Sr. [0:29:53, 0:30:07]: um also looks at his early life. And then the second one is one that looks at his um older life and some of the things that he's accomplished. And again, these are concept designs. They uh [0:30:08, 0:30:09]: What happened here? [0:30:11, 0:30:19]: Um, okay, these are concept designs just to kind of get us thinking in terms of what we would like to see with regard to the mural. [0:30:20, 0:30:25]: Um you all have the documents there so you can take them out and and make your um [0:30:26, 0:30:32]: Notes. Now the locations for these murals, the welcome mural, um we have [0:30:32, 0:30:42]: two locations. The first location is the um sidewall that is right off of Herrell Street by the [0:30:42, 0:30:44]: Um elementary school. [0:30:45, 0:30:49]: That is a six foot tall wall that um [0:30:49, 0:30:58]: is on a down slope. So it starts at six feet and then it goes all the way down to um two feet in height. So that one has a decline in it. [0:30:59, 0:30:59]: The [0:31:00, 0:31:01]: Second location [0:31:02, 0:31:04]: Um for the welcome sign. [0:31:05, 0:31:07]: And this is kind of a pie in the sky. [0:31:08, 0:31:11]: type location. It is on the side of [0:31:12, 0:31:14]: Um Oglesby's Realty. [0:31:14, 0:31:19]: That is in the downtown area. You see that building right when you come over the bridge. [0:31:19, 0:31:26]: Um, so far Mr. Oglesby has not been as amenable as we would like for him to. [0:31:27, 0:31:43]: to um allow us to put the welcome sign on the side of his building, but we're still trying to work on him to see if he will um do so. I think that once we have a design to actually show him and he's able to visualize what that can look like. [0:31:43, 0:31:51]: He might be a little bit more um interested in allowing us to um place the mural on the side of his building. [0:31:51, 0:31:53]: And of course, this would require. [0:31:53, 0:31:57]: Um an agreement between the um city. [0:31:57, 0:31:59]: And um Mr. Oglesby. [0:32:00, 0:32:02]: So if that does come to fruition, we will [0:32:03, 0:32:05]: Нічю м окурс. [0:32:05, 0:32:07]: Engage um [0:32:07, 0:32:11]: The um city manager, the um [0:32:11, 0:32:18]: Community development director and the city council to make sure that that um agreement is created and [0:32:18, 0:32:20]: is in um [0:32:20, 0:32:21]: Is [0:32:23, 0:32:25]: is agreeable to all parties. [0:32:25, 0:32:28]: And then uh we had the [0:32:28, 0:32:41]: five and six those murals five and six concepts those are what we are calling our panel murals these are murals that will be placed on panels and be um [0:32:41, 0:32:42]: Yes. [0:32:42, 0:32:45]: Excuse me, Clear, if there's some feedback. [0:32:45, 0:32:47]: Oh, they just present it. [0:32:48, 0:32:53]: I think it might be Greg. He's just coming on and he might have his speaker on as well. [0:32:53, 0:32:55]: Yes. Thar that [0:32:55, 0:32:56]: Okay. [0:32:56, 0:32:57]: That's okay. [0:32:58, 0:32:59]: Can you all hear me now? [0:33:01, 0:33:15]: Okay. Um and then the five and six, those are murals that we are planning for the Breezeway area that would be on panels on the side of the what is now called the Ted Strickland. [0:33:15, 0:33:19]: Community center, which will be the welcome center and Main Street program office. [0:33:19, 0:33:26]: These will be on panels and can be removed. So they will not be painted directly onto the bricks. [0:33:26, 0:33:31]: They will be m be able to be moved if we need to. [0:33:32, 0:33:37]: move them to another location or um no longer want them on the side of the building. [0:33:37, 0:33:38]: They [0:33:39, 0:33:46]: Um here recently um that has been kind of a trend. Um Lisa and I um were just talking about this where [0:33:46, 0:33:52]: Um, they have had some murals that are kind of traveling um to different cities, different main street cities. [0:33:52, 0:33:55]: Have been sharing their murals with communities. [0:33:55, 0:33:58]: That do not have them in their cities. [0:33:58, 0:33:59]: Um [0:33:59, 0:34:07]: They let them borrow them for certain periods of time for special art presentations, especially during this um COVID environment. [0:34:07, 0:34:11]: Just to give people something to come to their downtowns. [0:34:11, 0:34:14]: and view. So that's something that might be [0:34:14, 0:34:24]: um available to us as well. So I think first what we have to do is allow Mr. Christian to talk to us a little bit about each design. [0:34:25, 0:34:30]: And uh what he was thinking and then uh we'll get some feedback from you all as well. [0:34:31, 0:34:38]: Okay. Um first uh the whole idea of sharing murals, that's the first I've heard of that and I don't know anyone doing that. So [0:34:38, 0:34:49]: That was a great opportunity for these types of panels, you know, if we want to, you know, do that as well. Uh well basically um if we start off with uh talking about the wall at the school. [0:34:49, 0:34:55]: Uh that would be like the it's the one that's six and a half feet tall and it goes down, but it's it's very long wall. [0:34:55, 0:35:01]: Uh the um challenges with that wall is the fact that it's not high. [0:35:01, 0:35:19]: Uh now we could also whatever we put there could be also be on panels to make it taller. So uh usually uh when you paint a mural, you start it let's say knee high or two feet from the ground and then go up let's say eight or ten feet or however. We could actually um [0:35:19, 0:35:26]: do let's say a 30 or 40 foot section of that wall and install poles to put it on like a billboard. [0:35:26, 0:35:28]: Up against that wall. [0:35:28, 0:35:35]: to give it a better uh exposure. Uh now obviously that's just an idea. It's not to say that we can't do something [0:35:36, 0:35:38]: Just six feet high, but I just thought I'd throw that out. [0:35:39, 0:35:46]: So there's an option to do that. And then uh now the whole idea with the train concept with that wall. [0:35:46, 0:35:58]: was the fact that it would make sense because it's slower f lower and not so high that we could do something that might be really long and then have if you look inside, I guess that's drawn design number three. [0:35:59, 0:36:01]: Um yeah. [0:36:01, 0:36:02]: One with the train. [0:36:03, 0:36:08]: The the idea with the train concept was to basically make it more kid friendly. [0:36:09, 0:36:12]: And inside the windows of the train. [0:36:12, 0:36:32]: we could have different people in the train doing different things. Uh it could be all kids. It could be some famous people maybe in the windows. Uh maybe um it could be an educational type thing where we have uh um kids doing different things. Uh so um [0:36:32, 0:36:34]: Anyway, that's um [0:36:35, 0:36:46]: Uh that's my idea, our ideas for that. Uh and John, if I could just um jump in real quick, you see a little depiction of a little um cartoon lion. [0:36:46, 0:37:01]: on the end of that particular um train right their little mascot at Stockbridge Elementary is the um tiger. I said lion, it's a tiger. So maybe we can incorporate the tiger into the um train as well. [0:37:01, 0:37:13]: So just think of the little windows filled with um diverse people doing diverse things and just um a whimsical look to that particular train. [0:37:13, 0:37:19]: Um also a part of our grant from the um [0:37:19, 0:37:21]: Georgia um arts council. [0:37:22, 0:37:30]: Is um part of our grant when we wrote that request was to allow children to participate in an art day. [0:37:31, 0:37:36]: where they would actually be able to assist with painting the mural. [0:37:37, 0:37:38]: So [0:37:38, 0:37:41]: Um, we thought that this would also be a concept that [0:37:42, 0:37:56]: the kids could get involved with and be excited about because they would be able to assist with the painting. Now, COVID has happened, school has been kind of sketchy as far as being in-person and being um [0:37:57, 0:38:11]: virtual so we would of course have to see what is available to us with regard to that. We might have to also um look at assistance from our Stockbridge Youth Council. [0:38:12, 0:38:15]: Um, if we cannot get the assistance from the school. [0:38:15, 0:38:16]: Um [0:38:16, 0:38:22]: But this is a concept that we thought would be kid friendly and community friendly. [0:38:22, 0:38:25]: And would allow for some interaction. [0:38:25, 0:38:30]: um with the community as being a part of the actual creation of the mural. [0:38:31, 0:38:32]: Okay. [0:38:33, 0:38:40]: An another thought too, um, with that wall being very long, uh if I'm not mistaken, it's over a hundred feet long, but it gets narrower and narrower. [0:38:40, 0:38:43]: We can just extend the length of the train. [0:38:43, 0:38:59]: where the kids can actually we'll just move move, let's say the caboose of the of the train would be painted on panels that would actually attach to the brick wall. And then we can just move the caboose down as we add train cars. Uh we could also um [0:38:59, 0:39:09]: have the windows blank or let's say we paint some of the windows with certain people in them doing different things and then leave the insides of the windows blank. [0:39:09, 0:39:15]: For the art teacher to have other kids add different things to inside the windows, they can actually [0:39:15, 0:39:18]: Paint the kids in the windows. That's an idea. [0:39:19, 0:39:31]: We could also maybe make the train uh a circus train, maybe that's an idea. Cause seeing how we have the tiger uh is their mascot, he could potentially be I can envision him being kind of like the uh [0:39:31, 0:39:39]: uh the ring masker maybe with the top hat and all uh so there's cool things we can do associated [0:39:39, 0:39:41]: with the school and also the mascot. [0:39:42, 0:39:46]: So um can I get any input or questions for that design? [0:39:52, 0:40:00]: This is a Nika Pods. I absolutely love Hi, the uh train idea and making it something where [0:40:00, 0:40:07]: One is sustainable and um interactive for the community, for the kids, educational. [0:40:07, 0:40:20]: um it can um uh convert, it can evolve, it wouldn't be stagnant um if we can kind of incorporate a a number of the things that you are stating and what Ms. Braggs has stated. [0:40:20, 0:40:40]: Um, I really like the concept and because it's uh the city, I'm assuming, we wouldn't have to hope that the owner allows us to utilize the space. We can probably super quickly. So the city actually owns that wall, so we don't have to worry about that. Yeah. So I I think it's wonderful. I love it. [0:40:40, 0:40:47]: Well that that's great. Um actually to that point, um a li a living mural, if that's you know,'cause it's so long. [0:40:47, 0:40:49]: Each year they can add something to it. [0:40:49, 0:40:51]: Or we can make um [0:40:51, 0:40:52]: Think of it this way. [0:40:53, 0:41:03]: If you are an art teacher and you have the windows and the windows are all the same size or whatever of the train, she can actually have those done up on little panels that she can actually have the kids draw'em out. [0:41:03, 0:41:04]: In the classroom. [0:41:05, 0:41:09]: And then we can make them to where you just put them inside, like it can hook on. [0:41:09, 0:41:10]: Uh the mural. [0:41:11, 0:41:18]: Like uh, and then they can remove it for each year and then have a different group of kids um put their designs, and then what happens is. [0:41:19, 0:41:23]: at at the end of each year the um the kids get to take their [0:41:23, 0:41:24]: their picture home. [0:41:25, 0:41:26]: To go with the new group of kids. [0:41:26, 0:41:29]: So that mirror will always evolve. [0:41:29, 0:41:36]: The things that would not evolve would be the actual train mural part, and then it's just they just they just fill in what's inside the windows. [0:41:37, 0:41:38]: If that makes sense. [0:41:38, 0:41:41]: Uh and then we just we paint the the caboose. [0:41:42, 0:41:50]: on a piece of plywood that's you know marine plywood and just have it attached to the mural currently and then as we as we [0:41:50, 0:41:52]: Add cars to it, we'll just pick it up. [0:41:53, 0:41:57]: and attach it down down the road there to make it a much longer train. [0:41:57, 0:42:00]: But the first part of the mural, which would be let's say the first thirty feet or so. [0:42:01, 0:42:03]: Wouldn't change. It would just be the rest of it. [0:42:04, 0:42:05]: That's my thoughts. [0:42:07, 0:42:11]: Okay. Is there anyone else who'd like to comment on this particular [0:42:12, 0:42:13]: Um option. [0:42:17, 0:42:25]: Mrs. Bryg. Do you all like it? Do you hate it? Do you see something that needs to change? Like, for example, where community connects. [0:42:25, 0:42:37]: Um that's something that we um it's in green. Of course it's gonna have to be a different color so that you can see it better. Um do we want where community connects on that is the city of Stockbridge's tagline. [0:42:38, 0:42:42]: Um is it too many words on it? Do we want to have that? [0:42:43, 0:42:44]: Like the tree. [0:42:44, 0:42:45]: I like the train idea. Um [0:42:46, 0:42:47]: Children love the train. [0:42:48, 0:42:49]: That is it's like a [0:42:49, 0:42:51]: Exciting for them. [0:42:51, 0:42:54]: So he was talking about um [0:42:54, 0:42:57]: putting different pictures in [0:42:57, 0:43:04]: The windows, I I really like that because as they graduate and move on, other kids are able to join. [0:43:05, 0:43:07]: It's just like a ongoing excitement. [0:43:08, 0:43:10]: I so I like that. So yes, I like it. [0:43:12, 0:43:13]: I like that yeah. [0:43:14, 0:43:18]: Can I ask uh another question? What do y'all think of the idea of the possibility of [0:43:18, 0:43:24]: The first part of the mural on that wall would be on panels that'll be taller to make it more of a an impression. [0:43:25, 0:43:27]: Or do you are you okay with it just being six feet tall? [0:43:29, 0:43:30]: That's that was just the last thing. [0:43:31, 0:43:36]: Mrs. Bragg, this is Councilman Thomas. Uh I do like the ideal of it being a little taller. [0:43:37, 0:43:43]: My concern though is a lot of walking traffic there in that area and I raised this issue before. [0:43:43, 0:43:46]: about the uh possibility of graffiti. [0:43:46, 0:43:48]: Um so [0:43:50, 0:43:51]: How would you [0:43:52, 0:44:00]: come back to do touch ups if if necessary? That's a good good question. Uh this is what I do with uh with that concept. [0:44:00, 0:44:11]: I have been very fortunate that virtually none of my murals have had graffiti on them. I've had occasional put people putting mustaches and beards on uh images, but this is how we combat it. [0:44:12, 0:44:17]: Uh we put a top coat on the wall. It's like Thompson Water Seal Brick and Mortar. [0:44:17, 0:44:25]: And it's not the best top seal, but it's the best for this particular purpose. So what happens is if someone was to graffiti. [0:44:25, 0:44:30]: The mural it's on the actual top coat and all we do is pressure wash it off. [0:44:31, 0:44:33]: touch up we have to touch up and put another fresh coat on it. [0:44:34, 0:44:40]: If the f if the top coat was a much stronger top coat that's you can't ever get it off. [0:44:40, 0:45:00]: Then we wouldn't be able to do that and we'd have issues with removing the graffiti off the walls. So I found the Thompson brick and mortar water seal is the best choice to do that certain thing. And then every year or so, if there's an issue, we can, or if the femural starts to uh need be cleaned or whatever, you can [0:45:00, 0:45:06]: uh clean it, pressure wash it, and then put a fresh coat of top coat on it every few years. [0:45:06, 0:45:15]: And that helps maintain the wall. An another thing too, with the wall being so close, the mural being so far to the ground, usually I start at like two feet high. [0:45:15, 0:45:24]: There's always gonna be uh raindrop dust or dirt on the bottom two or three feet of the mural because of its there's grass there. [0:45:25, 0:45:41]: So i it'll splash up, you know what I mean? So it's gonna be an issue of keeping it clean. That's another reason I think painting the first part of it on panels uh to make it higher and also it would help give it better visibility and also potentially um protect it more. [0:45:41, 0:45:45]: And then course uh the the custodian at the school can [0:45:45, 0:45:49]: you know, clean it if it needs to be clean, you know, with the water hose and such. [0:45:50, 0:45:54]: Well and I was gonna comment on the panels. I I do like the the the higher virgin. [0:45:55, 0:46:00]: Uh, because I was gonna ask the question, did did anyone do a test drive over the bridge? [0:46:00, 0:46:02]: to to [0:46:02, 0:46:03]: Gauge. [0:46:03, 0:46:06]: The visibility uh coming over the bridge. [0:46:06, 0:46:07]: That's a good quote. [0:46:07, 0:46:16]: I have done a test drive and you can see it when you're coming down on the down slope when you're passing by the um [0:46:16, 0:46:17]: Barber shop. [0:46:18, 0:46:20]: Um but [0:46:20, 0:46:35]: You get the best, I guess, view of it when you are um s sitting there at the stoplight and you can see it from um three directions at the stoplight. If it was taller, you could probably see it, you know, for [0:46:35, 0:46:37]: Um earlier. [0:46:37, 0:46:37]: Um [0:46:37, 0:46:44]: for lack of a better way to describe it, you could probably see it a little earlier when you're coming down off of the bridge. [0:46:44, 0:46:45]: But um [0:46:46, 0:46:54]: Yeah, the the best view is when you are sitting at the stoplight in that four-way intersection where you can see it in three directions. [0:46:56, 0:47:01]: Also, uh, if I may say um there's a fence that stands on top of the brick wall, correct? [0:47:01, 0:47:03]: Yes. So [0:47:04, 0:47:07]: I'm guessing that's like a four foot high fence. I don't really know. [0:47:07, 0:47:09]: So what we potentially could do is make [0:47:10, 0:47:14]: extend the mural if we do it on panels the exact height at the top of the fence. [0:47:15, 0:47:20]: And we could paint the back of the um the mural the same color as the fence so it won't be um [0:47:20, 0:47:23]: Uh anything that would be real noticeable. [0:47:23, 0:47:26]: And so that could be a possibility as well. [0:47:27, 0:47:30]: I like that concept'cause it will give a little height to it. [0:47:32, 0:47:47]: So reality is if it let's say um it's uh uh four foot by eight foot panels and the the the panels won't start until two feet from the ground. So reality is it's gonna be about ten feet tall. And that's probably how tall the uh that fence is anyway. [0:47:47, 0:47:49]: And by doing it that way, um [0:47:50, 0:48:01]: The higher it goes, the more the larger the words stockbridge can be. Um versus and then you won't block too much of the train with the wording. If you look at the well, the design has the letters. [0:48:01, 0:48:04]: locking a lot of the uh images of the train. [0:48:04, 0:48:07]: Uh so that could also help with that part of it. [0:48:07, 0:48:10]: Then we uh uh we could also this just another idea. [0:48:10, 0:48:13]: We can also cut out the letters. [0:48:13, 0:48:14]: Um [0:48:14, 0:48:15]: Instead of it being [0:48:16, 0:48:16]: You know [0:48:17, 0:48:24]: straight pieces at the top, you know, like a flat piece. We can curve the letters, curve the cut the plywood to match the [0:48:25, 0:48:30]: letters. So it's like the letters are standing out. That's a another option, but of course that's a little more work, but [0:48:31, 0:48:32]: That's throwing that out. [0:48:33, 0:48:35]: Okay. I actually like that idea. [0:48:37, 0:48:39]: Well how about how how about this? [0:48:40, 0:48:41]: Just suggested for this design. [0:48:42, 0:48:44]: How about now that I've got some input? [0:48:44, 0:48:46]: And I'll do a design. [0:48:47, 0:48:49]: As if how it would look on panels. [0:48:49, 0:48:55]: as well as with the wall and then we can show individual pieces of how the train can potentially [0:48:55, 0:48:59]: The caboose can move to the other side of the wall and then we can have [0:48:59, 0:49:07]: how the the dimensions of the little windows and the kids can actually paint whatever they want inside the windows, it would be obviously [0:49:08, 0:49:11]: kids having fun or e maybe themselves a portrait of themselves. [0:49:12, 0:49:15]: And then every year they can uh take it home with them. [0:49:15, 0:49:17]: And then um [0:49:17, 0:49:24]: uh a new group of kids can put their pictures in the train. And I think that's a really cool idea. And I don't know anyone doing that uh that I'm aware of. [0:49:25, 0:49:31]: Um so uh would you like me to do that? Uh or is there other suggestions for this product? [0:49:32, 0:49:36]: Now I did want to mention that, you know, this is one option. [0:49:36, 0:49:49]: Um there's also one of the there the other two options of just the stock bridge, the word stock bridge. That was image uh one, if you all will look at that. [0:49:50, 0:49:57]: Um that would just be the word Stockbridge. Welcome to Stockbridge with um Martin Luther King Senior. [0:49:58, 0:50:02]: Um and inside the letters there would be um [0:50:03, 0:50:07]: different scenes around Stockbridge, like there might be [0:50:07, 0:50:08]: Um the [0:50:09, 0:50:13]: um water tower or there might be um [0:50:14, 0:50:19]: A picture of City Hall inside the letter. So as you can see, the letters kind of have [0:50:19, 0:50:22]: Pi pictures inside the letters. [0:50:22, 0:50:23]: Um [0:50:24, 0:50:34]: Would you all prefer to have something that looks more like this? Or is the train something that we want to go with in that particular spot? [0:50:35, 0:50:37]: Does anybody have an opinion about that? [0:50:38, 0:50:43]: Mrs. Brack, let me ask these questions if I may be before uh the the board chime in. [0:50:44, 0:50:45]: Um [0:50:45, 0:50:49]: Would location I know we talked about two locations. [0:50:49, 0:50:52]: Вот локація диктат. [0:50:53, 0:50:54]: Which mural [0:50:55, 0:50:59]: We would choose, meaning would one look better, say [0:50:59, 0:51:03]: Uh along the building or will one look better uh on the wall? [0:51:05, 0:51:05]: Um [0:51:06, 0:51:15]: To to to be quite frank, I think yes. Um, I would prefer to see the welcome to Stockbridge, the image number um one. [0:51:15, 0:51:26]: on the side of the building coming across the bridge where um Mr. Ogle Oglesby's building is because I think that that would have a more dramatic [0:51:27, 0:51:33]: um effect coming across the bridge and think about the fact that we will have people [0:51:33, 0:51:35]: Um, at some point [0:51:35, 0:51:39]: Um increased trafic during once the amphitheatre is created. [0:51:40, 0:51:48]: People will be um moving along that bridge um in greater numbers, so it will be more visible. And then also. [0:51:49, 0:51:51]: It's more visible to that traffic. [0:51:51, 0:51:53]: um on North Henry Boulevard. [0:51:54, 0:51:55]: Um the [0:51:56, 0:52:00]: site that is right there by the school of course is not as [0:52:01, 0:52:05]: dramatic a location for the one with the big stock bridge letters and [0:52:06, 0:52:14]: The pictorals. So I guess we need to first decide whether we want to go with the train or if we want to go with the more historic. [0:52:15, 0:52:15]: Um [0:52:16, 0:52:19]: Design for that wall. [0:52:21, 0:52:22]: Now the [0:52:22, 0:52:27]: Five and six designs that are um for the downtown area. [0:52:27, 0:52:28]: I think that [0:52:29, 0:52:35]: If we kind of keep our historic designs in that downtown area right there on um [0:52:36, 0:52:39]: Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail and [0:52:39, 0:52:55]: That would mean the side of the Oglesby's building and the Ted Strickland. We keep our historic murals in the downtown area. That is kind of what I would like to see, but I need to make sure that um [0:52:55, 0:53:01]: The board is in agreement and see what your opinion is. Would you all prefer a historic mural? [0:53:01, 0:53:02]: On her real. [0:53:03, 0:53:08]: Or would you prefer the whimsical mural on her rail? Can I can I make a comment before they chime in? [0:53:08, 0:53:22]: Yes. The reason why she wants to do that is the murals would be an attraction for people to go to that downtown area versus driving by and seeing it. I think that's what you pointed out to me the last time we talked. [0:53:22, 0:53:29]: Yes. Um, thank you for bringing that part up. The historic mur murals, we're looking at those to be a draw. [0:53:30, 0:53:36]: And we would want people to be able to get out of their cars, take photos, um [0:53:36, 0:53:39]: really, really delve into the murals. [0:53:39, 0:53:42]: Whereas the Horel street location [0:53:42, 0:53:49]: is a little busier, that's a busy intersection. And we were thinking that that mural would be a more passive mural. [0:53:50, 0:54:01]: location, but I still want to see how you all feel. Would you rather see a historic mural at that site, at that intersection, or the more whimsical passive mural? [0:54:01, 0:54:04]: And Mildred, I think you had your hand up. [0:54:04, 0:54:09]: You thank you. I uh personally I would like to see the uh more whimsical one. [0:54:09, 0:54:12]: On that wall because it's at the school area. [0:54:12, 0:54:14]: And it would also involve [0:54:15, 0:54:20]: the children uh getting involved and because it's in that area of the school. [0:54:21, 0:54:24]: Personally, I think it should be that way. The um [0:54:25, 0:54:27]: As far as the historical area. [0:54:28, 0:54:31]: And I believe you said planning on doing it in the breeze way. [0:54:31, 0:54:33]: A live man. [0:54:33, 0:54:37]: I like that concept in the Breezeway area. [0:54:38, 0:54:40]: So it uh the bridge? [0:54:40, 0:54:41]: Is that what you mean? [0:54:41, 0:54:42]: No, the bridge. [0:54:43, 0:54:49]: Uh the bridges well, excuse me, I was really referring to the area where Lindis [0:54:50, 0:55:02]: Um spidey is is that what you all were talking about? Yes, that's the breeze way. That's where the five and six are definitely gonna go. Okay if um if you all decide to go with the whimsical mural. [0:55:02, 0:55:14]: at Harrell Street by the school, then we would put try to get a historical mural on the side of Mr. Oglesby's building. Right. Okay. We don't want to have two [0:55:15, 0:55:23]: welcome the stockbridge historical murals and to you you understand what I'm saying? I understand what you're saying, but uh the welcome [0:55:24, 0:55:27]: I don't know that the welcome should be on the um [0:55:28, 0:55:34]: side of the build side of the wall, the wall itself. I don't think it's the word welcome to. [0:55:35, 0:55:39]: No, we can put Stockbridge in there, but I don't think welcome two should be okay. [0:55:39, 0:55:49]: on that we can take on which the whimsical one the whimsical one okay yeah just take well just take welcome to i mean if you want and where community connects [0:55:50, 0:55:55]: Maybe instead of saying Stockbridge, you can just move where community connects at the top. [0:55:56, 0:55:57]: In place of stock wage. [0:55:58, 0:55:58]: Okay. [0:55:58, 0:56:03]: Because that's very supposed to be very laid back, right? Right. And you [0:56:03, 0:56:04]: Go ahead. [0:56:04, 0:56:15]: I was gonna say and if we have welcome to Stockbridge on one mural, we won't say welcome to. It'll be a different message on the other mural. We just need to decide which design is gonna go where. [0:56:15, 0:56:22]: Yeah, so that we can present it to the council for their approval. Okay. Well the welcome too should be on the wall. [0:56:23, 0:56:25]: Uh the first concept. [0:56:25, 0:56:30]: Well, I guess I'm maybe I hope I'm not twisting this. But anyway, the welcome to [0:56:30, 0:56:34]: Should be at the bridge area where you can see it across the bridge. [0:56:35, 0:56:37]: I hope I'm looking at the right sign to do that. [0:56:37, 0:56:38]: Um [0:56:38, 0:56:44]: And the whimsical one with the train should be just that where community connect. [0:56:45, 0:56:51]: Because it has to do with movement and train and should be there. And we don't need to say welcome to [0:56:52, 0:56:53]: Okay. [0:56:53, 0:56:54]: I think. [0:56:55, 0:56:56]: All right, Greg, you had your hand up. [0:57:02, 0:57:10]: Yeah, uh I I agree with the whimsical image uh at the wall for the school because I like the idea of bringing [0:57:10, 0:57:16]: art and school and and children together and having a more whimsical [0:57:16, 0:57:23]: uh field there at that intersection um and then agree with a historical mural for the Oglesby location. [0:57:23, 0:57:24]: Okay. [0:57:25, 0:57:26]: Thank you. [0:57:28, 0:57:29]: Anyone else? Oh, Nika. [0:57:30, 0:57:50]: Yes, I just want to echo what everyone's saying by the school. Love the concept and um bringing it up on panels to uh elevate. And when traffic is coming down the bridge, uh those people will see, I think it should still say not welcome to, but Stockbridge where communities connect. [0:57:50, 0:57:58]: Because when you're coming in that direction, you won't be able to see the well, you may not be able to see what may be. [0:57:59, 0:58:02]: on downtown building on the other side that says welcome to stop rich so [0:58:03, 0:58:11]: I it would be great to have people in both directions identify that you are now in soffrage, but with that interaction and the sustainability there. [0:58:12, 0:58:30]: You know, the Oglesby building um concept one I like better than two for the verbiage and the images, but I like the vibrancy of concept two better. It's like brighter colors. I know it's because of the rose and everything, but I feel like two is. [0:58:30, 0:58:50]: tying us more back to Atlanta um with having like Ebenezer tied in there and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and um Mrs. King. Um I feel like that's saying, okay, we're connected to Atlanta opposed to we are our own identity, which one gives us more of that, I think. But I just [0:58:50, 0:58:52]: feel like the colors are are a little muted. [0:58:53, 0:59:01]: Um and personally I would love to see a little more um brightness um in the mural for that one. That's just my favorite. Thank you. [0:59:03, 0:59:03]: Okay. [0:59:06, 0:59:06]: Okay. [0:59:07, 0:59:09]: So are we in agreement? [0:59:10, 0:59:15]: That we would like to see the whimsical mural by the school. [0:59:15, 0:59:17]: And then the historical [0:59:17, 0:59:20]: mural, whatever that concept will be. [0:59:20, 0:59:24]: Um whether it's the one or the um option. [0:59:24, 0:59:25]: Two [0:59:26, 0:59:27]: Wait a minute. [0:59:27, 0:59:31]: Yeah, yeah, whether it's option one or option two. [0:59:31, 0:59:32]: It would be [0:59:33, 0:59:35]: Um in the downtown bridge area. [0:59:37, 0:59:40]: And then the whimsical one um by the school. [0:59:41, 0:59:45]: W what about four and f five and six? Um we'll get to those in a minute. [0:59:45, 0:59:50]: All right. I'm just trying to decide which one is gonna be the long mural. [0:59:50, 0:59:52]: Where the long murals are going to be placed. [0:59:54, 1:00:14]: Kira, I have a question. And I I had the runaway when the conversation started and I do apologize for that. I just want to be clear because I there are some concepts on both sides of it. Um Ogre and Horale. Uh we're doing both or just one. We're trying to decide one or both sides of the road. That's why I'm [1:00:14, 1:00:19]: I'm trying to go we're talking about both sides. Are we trying to decide on which one we're gonna go with? [1:00:19, 1:00:20]: No. [1:00:20, 1:00:28]: We're gonna do we're gonna do both sides. We're gonna do both sides eventually if Mr. Oglesby will. [1:00:28, 1:00:29]: Cooperate. [1:00:30, 1:00:32]: Okay. Um but right now [1:00:32, 1:00:35]: We're trying to decide which mural will go [1:00:35, 1:00:37]: Um right there by the school. [1:00:37, 1:00:38]: Definitely. [1:00:39, 1:00:41]: So it will either be a historic [1:00:42, 1:00:49]: uh mural with like the homage to daddy king in some way or just the stockbridge letters or the train. [1:00:50, 1:00:52]: Or a combination of the train and letters. [1:00:52, 1:00:53]: Yes. [1:00:54, 1:01:11]: All right, I I'm clear now. I just I was just heard so much stuff going on. I apologize. I missed the first portion of it. No, that's okay. Um, and I apologize if I'm being confusing. The Oglesby building is where we eventually would like to have a mural, but we don't have his permission yet. [1:01:11, 1:01:15]: So that's why I said that's kind of the pie in the sky location. [1:01:16, 1:01:25]: And we would like to try to reserve that space for a historical mural because it's in the downtown area. It might not ever happen. [1:01:26, 1:01:29]: But we are like to try to push. [1:01:29, 1:01:33]: And try to conv I guess I should say persuade and convince him. [1:01:33, 1:01:36]: At some point to allow us to have an agreement. [1:01:36, 1:01:40]: To have a mural on the side of his building. He might say never. [1:01:40, 1:01:46]: And that's why I'd say that if you all definitely want [1:01:46, 1:01:47]: Um [1:01:47, 1:01:51]: А историка муро апостолика муро. [1:01:51, 1:01:55]: That's the only place we can guarantee that it'll go as far as the long mural. [1:01:56, 1:01:59]: On the side of the Ted Strickland, we're definitely. [1:01:59, 1:02:02]: Um putting the historic murals [1:02:02, 1:02:05]: Well, if we get permission from the city council to put them there. [1:02:06, 1:02:11]: That's where we'll put them, but they'll be on panels so they'll be able to be removed if necessary. [1:02:12, 1:02:29]: Okay. So does that clarify things a little bit? It does. I apologize. And I think with the whizical one by the school, I think that's the best one because a school setting you dealing with kids. I agree. But is the verbiage on that gonna be the same or can that be looked at to change, like uh where it say where communities connect? [1:02:29, 1:02:46]: Yes, we can change we can change the verbiage if if we want to. Uh we're just trying to decide what the which design we're gonna go with, and then we can talk about verbiage. And what we'll probably do um in the interest of time is kind of um [1:02:47, 1:02:50]: Set this up as a design committee project. [1:02:50, 1:02:55]: So that um people who are, you know, very interested in what it actually looks like. [1:02:56, 1:02:59]: Um they can we can get a smaller group together. [1:03:00, 1:03:11]: and decide what that verbiage is gonna be and what um that verbiage is gonna look like. So it right now we're just trying to decide between historical drawing or train for that wall. [1:03:12, 1:03:19]: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I I like the the the training for that wall from a school perspective and and it represents the kids and and and [1:03:19, 1:03:25]: the the the school that's on that side. So I I I'm clear now. I I got a truly understanding of it. I think okay. [1:03:26, 1:03:26]: All right. [1:03:27, 1:03:28]: Greg, did you have a comment? [1:03:31, 1:03:45]: Well, I I I think it it bears just just stating that um even if Mr. Oglesby doesn't cooperate and doesn't allow us to have that wall, um, by putting options five and six in the breezeway, we still get to make a connection. [1:03:45, 1:03:49]: to MLK Senior Heritage Trail and Daddy King with a mural there. [1:03:49, 1:03:50]: Right. [1:03:50, 1:03:55]: Yeah, I I think that plays into the the thought of using the whimsical at the school. [1:03:55, 1:03:56]: Okay. [1:03:57, 1:03:59]: Um, Lisa, you had a comment? [1:03:59, 1:04:00]: They'd um [1:04:00, 1:04:07]: When Kira and I discussed this, we tossed around so many different angles and possibilities of [1:04:07, 1:04:09]: You know, a perspective. [1:04:09, 1:04:12]: And I just wanted to add that um [1:04:13, 1:04:14]: I think when we talked to John. [1:04:15, 1:04:16]: Months ago. [1:04:16, 1:04:20]: There was also this part of the conversation. Um I of course like [1:04:21, 1:04:22]: To have the um [1:04:24, 1:04:27]: Where community connects and children and family. [1:04:27, 1:04:28]: Ideal. [1:04:29, 1:04:33]: Where the school is, I think that's also important right now. [1:04:33, 1:04:34]: Because [1:04:34, 1:04:41]: Our nation is in need of inclusion. And that, you know, we have a very inclusive community and that's a wonderful thing. [1:04:41, 1:04:42]: However [1:04:42, 1:04:45]: As another perspective and maybe as devil's advocate. [1:04:46, 1:04:49]: There are so many people who have no clue. [1:04:49, 1:04:53]: That we are the birthplace of the King family. [1:04:54, 1:04:57]: And anytime we've had the opportunity to discuss it. [1:04:58, 1:05:03]: It's always like this major surprise. So and and then also consider that um [1:05:05, 1:05:07]: Forty two, highway forty two. [1:05:07, 1:05:18]: is a major route in and out of Stockbridge. So when people arrive in Stockbridge, of course we want to welcome them, but that might be our opportunity to let them know. [1:05:19, 1:05:21]: Who we are, you know, in terms of. [1:05:22, 1:05:25]: Our history and what we've contributed to the world historiquely. [1:05:26, 1:05:26]: Um [1:05:27, 1:05:27]: The [1:05:27, 1:05:30]: Images in the breeze way. [1:05:30, 1:05:33]: won't get immediate attention from travelers. [1:05:34, 1:05:37]: Um, so it's not the same type of tourism effect. [1:05:38, 1:05:38]: Um [1:05:39, 1:05:42]: We'd love to have it on Mr. Oglesby's building, but [1:05:42, 1:05:47]: Right now we don't know if that will happen. And so I'm just throwing it out there that um [1:05:48, 1:05:50]: The side of the school maybe are [1:05:51, 1:05:54]: First best opportunity. [1:05:54, 1:05:57]: To present that kind of message to the world. [1:05:58, 1:05:59]: Just something that [1:05:59, 1:06:00]: To chew one. [1:06:01, 1:06:03]: Look, can I say something real quick? [1:06:03, 1:06:10]: So another thing I talked to Kier about was if we do that mural at the school on panels. [1:06:10, 1:06:14]: Uh and it's like on a s own little billboard thing. [1:06:14, 1:06:15]: On the back side of the wall. [1:06:16, 1:06:18]: where the fence is and all, we could easily put [1:06:19, 1:06:21]: Another mural on panels right behind it. [1:06:22, 1:06:24]: So it's visual from the other direction. [1:06:25, 1:06:30]: I'm not saying it's gonna be a full mural, but I'm saying it could be something that you could put there if you choose to do that. [1:06:30, 1:06:34]: And later on you can decide to move those panels someplace else. [1:06:35, 1:06:38]: But that's the beauty beauty of book painting them on mirror on panels. [1:06:40, 1:06:41]: So that's a thought. [1:06:42, 1:06:42]: Okay. [1:06:43, 1:06:53]: All right. So I think that we need to kind of take a um final vote so we'll know which way we're going. Um and this can just be kind of an informal [1:06:53, 1:06:54]: Um [1:06:55, 1:07:00]: which way you want to go with whimsical or historical for Horrell Street by the school. [1:07:04, 1:07:13]: Okay, let's do that really quick then. So this is just getting your um input. It's not an official vote. So uh Mr. Hopkins. [1:07:14, 1:07:16]: I say the ones that go by the school. [1:07:16, 1:07:17]: Thank you, sir. [1:07:17, 1:07:18]: Mr. Hortzon? [1:07:22, 1:07:24]: Other when to call that to school. [1:07:25, 1:07:26]: Thank you, Sarah. [1:07:26, 1:07:27]: Miss Jones? [1:07:27, 1:07:29]: The winners go by the school, please. [1:07:30, 1:07:31]: Thanks, ma'am. [1:07:31, 1:07:32]: I agree. [1:07:33, 1:07:34]: With whimsical by the school. [1:07:35, 1:07:39]: And love the concept of being to do something on the backside. Miss Reed? [1:07:40, 1:07:41]: Most of the bad school. [1:07:42, 1:07:42]: Thank you, ma'am. [1:07:43, 1:07:45]: Has Miss Richardson joined us? [1:07:46, 1:07:47]: Not yet. [1:07:47, 1:07:48]: Okay. [1:07:48, 1:07:49]: Mr. Thomas. [1:07:50, 1:07:50]: I concur. [1:07:51, 1:07:52]: Thank you, Sarah. [1:07:54, 1:07:57]: Okay, so it looks like we're gonna go whimsical by the school. [1:07:58, 1:08:07]: And um we will focus our um historical mu murals with historical um subject matter in the downtown area. [1:08:07, 1:08:11]: Okay, good. All right, John. We've got our marching orders with regard to that. [1:08:12, 1:08:12]: Okay. [1:08:13, 1:08:27]: All right. And you had mentioned possibly coming up with a design that had the letters kind of cut out since we're gonna um put them on panels there as well. So um if we could task you with doing that just so um people can see what that might look like. [1:08:28, 1:08:36]: Um and now for we'll move to the downtown murals very quickly and again we might have to um [1:08:37, 1:08:41]: continue this conversation in a smaller group outside of our um [1:08:42, 1:08:44]: regular meeting. [1:08:44, 1:08:47]: Um we have um five and six. [1:08:48, 1:08:52]: Those are the designs that we're looking at placing at um the [1:08:52, 1:09:02]: Breezeway area that will be the main thoroughfare from the Cultural Arts Center. Umce that has been completed, um, Burke Street. [1:09:02, 1:09:11]: And through the downtown to Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Trail. That will be on the sidewall of the Ted Strickland building. There are two two sidewalls there. [1:09:12, 1:09:16]: And those will be the um that will also be the Main Street program office. [1:09:17, 1:09:20]: Um the two concepts that we have um [1:09:20, 1:09:26]: Are one side would be his early life, uh homage to Martin Luther King. [1:09:26, 1:09:28]: Seniors early life and then the [1:09:29, 1:09:32]: Second one would be an homage to his later life. [1:09:33, 1:09:37]: And um we wanted it to be kind of a um historic. [1:09:38, 1:09:41]: type photograph if you will or a vignette if you will. [1:09:42, 1:09:45]: Um my comments were um that [1:09:46, 1:09:48]: I would like to see um [1:09:49, 1:09:52]: The early life to also have um a [1:09:53, 1:09:55]: Um image of Floyd Chapel Baptist Church. [1:09:56, 1:10:06]: I think that that is where his true connection is to our community. Um, he did work with the railroad, but that was not a a a predominant part of his life. [1:10:07, 1:10:10]: So that's the change that I would like to see. [1:10:10, 1:10:14]: Um what do you all think about the two um [1:10:15, 1:10:19]: Two options and mist um councilman Thomas, you might have. [1:10:19, 1:10:32]: um a little more input with regard to some of the um vignette pictures because you have extensively um researched daddy king's life so you might have some jet suggestions rather. [1:10:32, 1:10:38]: Yeah, I I I do think should involve uh Flora Chapel. I think that is the connection. [1:10:39, 1:10:45]: Um I think that also resonate, you know, with the um city as a whole. [1:10:45, 1:10:49]: So I do agree, I think we do need to uh to include that. [1:10:50, 1:10:50]: Okay. [1:10:50, 1:10:52]: And and I will also say that [1:10:52, 1:10:56]: Um, you know, folks are really fascinated. Um [1:10:57, 1:11:00]: About you know Daddy King and Starkridge and [1:11:01, 1:11:03]: That interest is still growing. [1:11:06, 1:11:07]: Yes. [1:11:08, 1:11:10]: Any other comments about the um [1:11:11, 1:11:13]: The suggested um [1:11:14, 1:11:17]: pictorals to be a part of the vignette. [1:11:20, 1:11:21]: Can I make a s [1:11:21, 1:11:29]: Comment real quick? Uh yes. When I've I've researched as many pictures as I could possibly find for Daddy King and also [1:11:29, 1:11:32]: other things. Now when I Googled um [1:11:32, 1:11:35]: Floyd Chapel Church. It was a modern picture of a modern building. [1:11:36, 1:11:38]: Is there a picture of the old building? [1:11:38, 1:11:41]: The way it looked like when he was there. [1:11:42, 1:11:45]: Even if you website is that one. [1:11:46, 1:11:46]: I'm sorry. [1:11:47, 1:11:50]: Maybe I can I can answer that. Um [1:11:52, 1:11:55]: There was a picture I found in an old file. [1:11:56, 1:11:57]: Um that [1:11:57, 1:12:00]: Is supposedly the old Floyd Chapel. [1:12:01, 1:12:09]: There's nothing on the document that actually indicates it's actually Floyd Chapel. You know, a lot of those southern churches look very much alike. [1:12:10, 1:12:11]: In those days. [1:12:11, 1:12:12]: Um [1:12:12, 1:12:16]: So I'm not certain if we have an official picture of [1:12:16, 1:12:17]: They [1:12:17, 1:12:20]: Old Floyd Chapel before the fire. [1:12:20, 1:12:25]: Um or before any modernization modernization has taken place on the building. [1:12:26, 1:12:27]: Um [1:12:27, 1:12:29]: But we can [1:12:29, 1:12:32]: consider using the picture we found that [1:12:33, 1:12:34]: You know, looks a lot like [1:12:35, 1:12:42]: An old southern church similar to that same I mean in the church pr from what everyone has told me, the church has pretty much looked the same. [1:12:42, 1:12:44]: since it was built. [1:12:44, 1:12:47]: Um, I think that the entrance was on [1:12:47, 1:12:50]: An opposite side at one point. [1:12:50, 1:12:59]: But for the most part, it has looked exactly the way it has it looks now. It was just a different color. It was white and they've painted it yellow now. [1:13:00, 1:13:01]: Well can can I [1:13:02, 1:13:03]: Sorry. [1:13:03, 1:13:05]: Can you can you see that anyone? [1:13:06, 1:13:11]: Um, I have to share my screen with you. Hold on. Let me see if I can share it with you. [1:13:16, 1:13:16]: Okay. [1:13:19, 1:13:21]: Um, cause I don't see a picture of you. [1:13:22, 1:13:25]: No, I yeah, uh it's not a picture. [1:13:25, 1:13:28]: I just see the my name in print. [1:13:28, 1:13:33]: But I have a picture on my um Are you able to turn on your video? [1:13:34, 1:13:35]: Uh [1:13:38, 1:13:40]: There you go. I see you. [1:13:41, 1:13:42]: Can you [1:13:42, 1:13:44]: Yeah, I see that. Yeah. That's the old [1:13:45, 1:13:46]: Right. [1:13:47, 1:13:50]: Okay. Um yeah, if we can get some of those pictures. [1:13:50, 1:13:51]: An another suggestion was [1:13:52, 1:13:53]: Uh [1:13:53, 1:13:56]: If we can maybe approach the current membership. [1:13:56, 1:14:02]: They probably have a history archive scrapbooks that's got old pictures of Daddy King preaching. [1:14:02, 1:14:03]: You think so? [1:14:04, 1:14:05]: They don't have any? [1:14:05, 1:14:06]: We've asked. [1:14:07, 1:14:08]: No, they they do that. [1:14:09, 1:14:12]: Uh well let me say this. Um [1:14:13, 1:14:27]: Pastor Vance has um an association with uh Morehouse, and I believe that this is where some of these pictures came from. I'll check with him to see if there's anything uh at Morehouse that we may be able to get. [1:14:28, 1:14:34]: And I also want to make a note that we want the church to be recognizable to the community too. [1:14:34, 1:14:41]: Mm-hmm. So um that's a big thing. Is there a plaque or a plaque of some sort saying that Staddy King was that's where he was? [1:14:41, 1:14:44]: Is there a marker of some s some sort? Yeah, there's a marker there. [1:14:45, 1:14:47]: Well, we can maybe include the marker. [1:14:47, 1:14:48]: In in the mural. [1:14:48, 1:14:49]: Yeah. [1:14:49, 1:14:51]: Greg, you had a comment? [1:14:53, 1:14:54]: Yeah, uh [1:14:54, 1:15:00]: I was just gonna add that I do like your idea of replacing I I assume we're talking about the image. [1:15:01, 1:15:07]: for uh number five that has to train. You're talking about replacing that with the image of Floyd Chapel. [1:15:08, 1:15:08]: Yes. [1:15:09, 1:15:28]: I think that works very well, especially since we're on the Civil Rights Trail. Then you'd have the mural of Floyd Chapel and then the mural of Ebenezer, which connects us f to Atlanta and connects to Floyd Chapel, just a little bit further down the street, right there in one spot on the Civil Rights Trail in that alleyway. [1:15:29, 1:15:30]: Okay. I agree. [1:15:31, 1:15:32]: Anyone else? [1:15:34, 1:15:35]: I agree. [1:15:35, 1:15:36]: Okay. [1:15:37, 1:15:42]: All right, and then um also the um second image. [1:15:42, 1:15:50]: Um they have um Daddy King with um Rosalind and Jimmy Carter and Andy Young and Coretta. [1:15:50, 1:15:52]: Um I [1:15:52, 1:15:57]: Personally, um would like to see an image um if we can possibly find one. [1:15:58, 1:16:07]: um to go there that is more so more works of Daddy King, um, maybe on a picket line or, you know, something like that there. [1:16:07, 1:16:09]: Um, as opposed to [1:16:09, 1:16:15]: these particular figures because they don't really have a a connection to [1:16:15, 1:16:16]: Um [1:16:17, 1:16:22]: stock bridge the way that um maybe Coretta would or um [1:16:22, 1:16:23]: King Junior would have. [1:16:24, 1:16:25]: Um [1:16:25, 1:16:30]: So that might be something that we want to um take a look at as well. [1:16:30, 1:16:36]: But I think that um what we'll do is have a um smaller group. [1:16:36, 1:16:44]: um discussion about the mural, I'll send an invitation out to you all for another time for us to look at that if you're able to. [1:16:44, 1:16:48]: be a part of that you can and then if not [1:16:48, 1:16:53]: You um can just send me comments. You have the um concepts with you. [1:16:54, 1:17:00]: And um then we'll kind of hash this out a little bit more. I just wanted to make sure that we were in agreement. [1:17:00, 1:17:08]: that the two um murals that will be in the breezeway would be um historic in nature and if you all are good with that. [1:17:11, 1:17:12]: Okay. [1:17:12, 1:17:23]: Are there any um other comments or suggestions for the two murals in the breezeway that you'd like to um make sure that we have down now? And again, we'll revisit this. [1:17:23, 1:17:24]: Um [1:17:24, 1:17:25]: At a different time. [1:17:27, 1:17:32]: Uh Mrs. Bragg, just yes. Um I know is Mr. Peterson still on? [1:17:33, 1:17:34]: Yes, he is. [1:17:35, 1:17:38]: Um I know he's been very quiet and I just want to [1:17:38, 1:17:48]: uh extend um you know you're you're part of the family now. So I just want to know if you had it in the comments. Um I just I just want to hear your voice. [1:17:49, 1:17:55]: Oh well I was um I I was taking notes. Uh I'm for the mural project, especially with the amphitheater. [1:17:56, 1:17:58]: I'm thinking about it from a broader standpoint. [1:17:58, 1:17:59]: I want um [1:18:00, 1:18:02]: Stockbridge to be um sort of a destination. [1:18:03, 1:18:09]: Uh we can definitely capitalize off of uh Daddy King's leg legacy. And I I like the mural project. It's [1:18:10, 1:18:13]: It's towards that um arts as economic development concept. [1:18:13, 1:18:14]: So um [1:18:15, 1:18:16]: Yeah, well say it. [1:18:17, 1:18:20]: Uh yeah, just in two honeys, that'll be all. [1:18:20, 1:18:21]: Four twenty eight. [1:18:22, 1:18:25]: Linda, um put your um mic on mute. [1:18:26, 1:18:30]: I'm ordering food. I know we can hear you. Okay. [1:18:32, 1:18:33]: Mm Mr. Peters. [1:18:34, 1:18:34]: Yes, sir. [1:18:35, 1:18:38]: Now you um I I don't know if you got a chance to finish. [1:18:39, 1:18:47]: Oh well all almost. Um and now I was, you know, taking notes on my pad and and typing, but I'll speak to Miss Um Miss Kira about it. [1:18:47, 1:18:51]: about it later. But I I love the um the concept. Hopefully we can get that building. [1:18:52, 1:18:55]: In the main street um area to to agree. [1:18:55, 1:18:59]: To let us have the mural on the side of his building, that'll help with the connectivity. [1:18:59, 1:19:01]: What we're doing with the amphitheater. [1:19:01, 1:19:03]: And um just the whole Main Street in general. [1:19:04, 1:19:05]: But uh as far as the [1:19:06, 1:19:08]: The slide showing the details of the design. [1:19:08, 1:19:09]: I haven't. [1:19:09, 1:19:10]: Uh [1:19:10, 1:19:13]: formed an opinion yet on on who I would like. [1:19:13, 1:19:16]: I know I want Daddy King to be on there as but as far as the details. [1:19:17, 1:19:20]: I d I haven't come to um to an opinion on that yet. [1:19:20, 1:19:21]: Okay. [1:19:21, 1:19:23]: Well, I just wanted to hear your voice. [1:19:23, 1:19:27]: Oh yes, sir. I'm I'm over here taking notes. Taking notes. Thank you. [1:19:27, 1:19:29]: Okay, Mrs. Mrs. Braggs, back to you. [1:19:30, 1:19:42]: Okay. Um so what we'll do is we'll set up a meet give you all some time to kind of think about um the historic murals in the breeze way. We'll try to set up something for the evening of Thursday. [1:19:43, 1:19:43]: Um [1:19:45, 1:19:47]: The eighteenth. [1:19:48, 1:20:00]: Thursday the 18th, we'll do an evening meeting so we won't interrupt your work days. Probably about seven o'clock. Um, I'm sorry, about six thirty. Probably which would you all prefer? Six or seven? [1:20:00, 1:20:04]: for people that are um actually having to go into the office to work. [1:20:05, 1:20:10]: This is Anika seven. Seven. Okay. So we'll do seven on Thursday. [1:20:11, 1:20:13]: The um eighteenth. [1:20:15, 1:20:19]: And that way we can have just a full scale discussion about content for murals. [1:20:21, 1:20:23]: And that'll be d via Zoom. [1:20:24, 1:20:25]: Okay. [1:20:25, 1:20:39]: So thank you for your input. I appreciate you giving um your feedback and being um very candid and honest about um your opinions with regard to that. And we'll revisit this and get some final um recommendations. Um [1:20:39, 1:20:45]: that we can present to the council to get their final go ahead with um having these murals installed. [1:20:45, 1:20:46]: Okay. Um [1:20:47, 1:20:50]: Moving to the next part of um [1:20:50, 1:20:59]: Our agenda, new business, Main Street trainings are coming up. Oh, John, I'm sorry. I'll go ahead and guess if you don't need me. [1:20:59, 1:21:06]: Oh yes. And I'll call you right after this meeting, John. I'm sorry. All right. Bye bye. I forgot you weren't a part of the group for a minute there. [1:21:06, 1:21:10]: Thanks, John. Thanks, John. I'll be talking to you. [1:21:11, 1:21:16]: Okay, sorry about that. Y'all forgot that he was not a part of the group formally. Okay. Um [1:21:17, 1:21:37]: So Main Street trainings are coming up. If you all are interested in attending the National Main Street Convention, please let me know. Registration has come up and we want to be able to get our early bird pricing. This is the first time because it is virtual that you all as a board will [1:21:37, 1:21:45]: Be able to attend the national conference. So that is the rainbow in this whole COVID situation that. [1:21:46, 1:21:55]: you all will be able to attend this very, very important conference. The dates for the conference are going to be April the 12th through the 14th. [1:21:56, 1:22:13]: They are all day sessions. Um, you don't have to attend every session. You can kind of pick and choose what you would like to attend. Um, and they have an open plenary session, they have excellent speakers, and I would recommend that everybody [1:22:13, 1:22:31]: um agree to attend at least some of the sessions of the conference. So look at your calendars and get back to me to let me know whether or not you will be able to attend. You can go on the main the national main street site, Main Street Now. [1:22:31, 1:22:34]: Um and they have um [1:22:34, 1:22:40]: the whole conference um calendar so you can kind of take a look at what they're gonna be offering. [1:22:40, 1:22:41]: Um [1:22:41, 1:22:52]: But I would suggest that you make time in your schedule to do this. Again, it's virtual so you can have it playing while you're doing other things in the background. [1:22:53, 1:23:13]: And you can set up your schedule the way you would like for it to be set up as far as what you would like to attend. I need your answers with regard to whether you are going to be registered by the 19th. So please get back to me within a week's time as to whether or not you would like for me to register you for the conference. That'll give [1:23:13, 1:23:20]: Give you some time to go on the website and look to see what they are offering as far as um sessions, but this is an opportunity. [1:23:21, 1:23:32]: That is very rare. So please, please um be sure to take a look at the website and make plans to attend at least some of the sessions. But I need to know if you want to be registered. [1:23:32, 1:23:34]: By um next week this time. [1:23:35, 1:23:36]: Here. [1:23:36, 1:23:37]: Yes, sir. [1:23:37, 1:23:38]: Give you that acknowledgement now. [1:23:39, 1:23:40]: I'm sorry. [1:23:40, 1:23:46]: Can we give you that acknowledgement now? Oh sure. If you know you want to attend, yes. Okay. Thank you, Willie. [1:23:48, 1:23:52]: Okay, I've got you down. And anyone else just let me know before next Friday. [1:23:53, 1:24:13]: Also, we need to um talk about our um board retreat. Um we are supposed to meet every year annually for our work session, as you all know. Um, COVID um did not allow for us to do that um last year, so we're a year behind, but um our accreditation is not in jeopardy because. [1:24:13, 1:24:17]: because everyone was in the same situation. [1:24:17, 1:24:22]: They gave us some leniency at DCA with regard to their requirement for us hosting our annual retreat. [1:24:23, 1:24:29]: But I do want to get some feedback from you all with regard to how we want to do this. [1:24:30, 1:24:31]: Um [1:24:31, 1:24:34]: Right now we're having our meet meetings virtually. [1:24:35, 1:24:54]: But we do have spaces that are large enough, like the Merrill Manders Conference Center, if we would like to get together in an in-person basis, socially distanced, of course, to host our retreat, or if you all would prefer to have it still virtually. [1:24:54, 1:24:58]: And that's a question I would like to put out to you all for some feedback. [1:25:00, 1:25:03]: Virtually for me, I I think is is as much [1:25:03, 1:25:05]: Easier um [1:25:06, 1:25:08]: For me, I have so many meetings and [1:25:09, 1:25:11]: But I I'll just vote virtually for myself. [1:25:12, 1:25:12]: Okay. [1:25:13, 1:25:15]: Does anyone else have comments? [1:25:15, 1:25:19]: Kira, this is Anika. Is there a particular date we need to have it by? [1:25:20, 1:25:30]: There's no particular there's no particular date, but you know, you all know traditionally we have always had our retreat in the early quarter of the year. [1:25:31, 1:25:37]: Um, so we're kind of getting to that time. We're actually maybe a little bit late. We usually have it um March, April. [1:25:38, 1:25:47]: Um have even had it in February one year, which was really good because we were able to more effectively plan the whole year, but we're a little behind. So [1:25:47, 1:25:48]: Um [1:25:49, 1:25:53]: I would say at least by April we need to be h hosting our retreat. [1:25:54, 1:26:02]: Okay. If it needs to be in the first quarter of the year, I agree with m uh councilman Thomas that we remain virtual because uh not a lot has changed. [1:26:03, 1:26:03]: Okay. [1:26:05, 1:26:08]: All right, anyone else have an opinion? [1:26:11, 1:26:15]: Okay. I concur with you as well. Virtual. I concur with you. [1:26:17, 1:26:21]: All right. So I think we'll try to do I concur virtual as well. [1:26:21, 1:26:23]: Okay, Greg, thank you. [1:26:24, 1:26:25]: Anyone else? [1:26:26, 1:26:29]: Oh virtual as well. Virtual. Okay, Linda. Yes. [1:26:30, 1:26:31]: What about you, Maildrit? [1:26:32, 1:26:46]: Oh, I have no problem. I I I can go virtual. I was just thinking because something I need to say and it's the time it's still early. It's a little too early. At first I was gonna recommend Merle Manders and we space out. I've I've done some of that. [1:26:46, 1:26:49]: uh not too long ago and I and it was very effective. [1:26:50, 1:26:51]: But we know virtual. [1:26:52, 1:26:55]: Okay. So we're agreeing to do it virtually [1:26:55, 1:27:02]: And another thing that I would like to propose to you all is that um we try to [1:27:02, 1:27:04]: Include [1:27:04, 1:27:08]: The downtown development authority try to do something jointly. [1:27:08, 1:27:18]: with them. I would like to speak with their leadership. Um they've had a change in leadership and I think that they are very amenable to us. [1:27:18, 1:27:28]: hosting a joint session. Um I will be um participating in their meeting on next Tuesday and you all of course as always are welcome to [1:27:28, 1:27:34]: Um s um watch those sessions of the DDA meeting. It is a public meeting. [1:27:34, 1:27:37]: And I would like to um speak with them about [1:27:38, 1:27:40]: Hosting a joint. [1:27:40, 1:27:41]: Um planning retreat. [1:27:42, 1:27:47]: Um, I'm not exactly sure how we do all of that virtually because you know we usually [1:27:47, 1:27:49]: are spread out and we've got [1:27:50, 1:27:50]: Big [1:27:50, 1:27:56]: paper and um whiteboards and all of that kind of stuff when we do this type of planning. [1:27:56, 1:28:01]: so that we can um really, really get into the nitty gritty of planning. But [1:28:01, 1:28:06]: Um, I would at least like to put that option out there and then um try to [1:28:07, 1:28:14]: put together a few people in a committee to figure out what that is gonna look like and um how it needs to be presented. [1:28:14, 1:28:18]: But how do you all feel about trying to approach the DDA about a joint session? [1:28:20, 1:28:24]: Mrs. Bragg, um I I had that on my to do list. I had [1:28:24, 1:28:26]: Spoken with um [1:28:26, 1:28:37]: the leadership of the uh well I'll just say with Mr. Nighton and um I I have a meeting with plan w with Mr. Peterson, but I had that on my to do list because I think [1:28:37, 1:28:50]: When we start talking about economic development, uh I think the city council, the main street, and the DDA need to be in on that session so we're all uh understanding the direction that we're going. [1:28:51, 1:28:51]: Okay. [1:28:53, 1:28:54]: I concur. [1:28:55, 1:29:00]: Okay. All right. I will um oh, Mr. Peterson. [1:29:00, 1:29:01]: Oh yes ma'am. [1:29:02, 1:29:05]: Uh one quick question. Around what time did you want to have that meeting? [1:29:06, 1:29:08]: with the uh with the DDA, that joint meeting. [1:29:08, 1:29:21]: Um, I would have to talk with them. I'm assuming that because they meet in the evenings that the retreat would have to be in in an on an evening or on a weekend. We usually host our retreat on a Saturday. [1:29:22, 1:29:26]: Um so that people don't have to interfere with their work schedule. [1:29:26, 1:29:35]: So I'm thinking that if we go with our tradition, it would be on a Saturday, probably starting at around nine o'clock and go until twelve PM. [1:29:36, 1:29:44]: And then um if it is more so in keeping with the DDA schedule, it would probably be in the evening sometime. [1:29:44, 1:29:50]: But we are required to do um four hours of um training with regard to the board retreat. [1:29:51, 1:29:57]: I don't know if that's gonna turn into like a two day'cause I don't know if anybody wants to sit on virtual for four hours, but [1:29:57, 1:30:02]: We'll have to pull a committee together to kind of see what that looks like. So it would either be in an evening. [1:30:03, 1:30:06]: A weekday evening or on a Saturday starting in the morning. [1:30:07, 1:30:08]: Okay. Are you looking at a [1:30:09, 1:30:11]: Uh March or April around that time. [1:30:12, 1:30:12]: Um [1:30:13, 1:30:23]: I'm thinking Mar I mean April now, because we would probably need a month to pull it together and if we're gonna have it facilitated to get a facilitator and that sort of thing. [1:30:27, 1:30:29]: April at the earliest. [1:30:30, 1:30:33]: May, maybe, you know, if we can't pull it all together in time. [1:30:41, 1:30:42]: Are there any other comments on that? [1:30:45, 1:30:48]: Are you all good with approaching the D DA? [1:30:50, 1:30:59]: Ms. Bergman. Craig's clapping. Everybody's got a thumbs up. Okay. So I'll try to um make that happen. I'll speak with their leadership and see what we can come up with. [1:31:00, 1:31:03]: Mrs. Braggs, if I may. Um Yes, sir. [1:31:03, 1:31:04]: Um [1:31:06, 1:31:10]: This is very important that I have sort of moved forward with. [1:31:11, 1:31:11]: Um [1:31:12, 1:31:15]: think we have to include um the council. [1:31:15, 1:31:21]: Um, it is very important. Uh I know we've been fragmented in the past. [1:31:22, 1:31:24]: It is very it is crucial. [1:31:25, 1:31:28]: That all of us understand how we are team. [1:31:29, 1:31:35]: and trying to move forward, uh not only with economic development, but even community development. [1:31:35, 1:31:37]: So I think it's gonna be important. So [1:31:38, 1:31:39]: My point is [1:31:40, 1:31:42]: Not to rush it. [1:31:42, 1:31:46]: Let's make sure that the schedule fits everyone. [1:31:46, 1:31:52]: Because what comes out of that is going to be crucial for the future of of Star Gridge and [1:31:52, 1:31:57]: I'll speak to you uh offline um about some things, but um [1:31:58, 1:32:01]: This is a crucial step, and we we have to definitely make sure that. [1:32:02, 1:32:09]: Um, you know, we move forward and try to get the best out of this. Um scrupulous, but I speak to you a little bit more offline. [1:32:09, 1:32:10]: Okay. [1:32:11, 1:32:12]: Mr. Horton. [1:32:13, 1:32:14]: Great. [1:32:18, 1:32:19]: Yes. [1:32:19, 1:32:21]: Um um [1:32:21, 1:32:25]: I I really appreciate Councilman Thomas's uh [1:32:26, 1:32:28]: thoughts and and and willingness to [1:32:29, 1:32:30]: Uh [1:32:30, 1:32:32]: have that joint retreat. [1:32:32, 1:32:39]: But I think given the history um here in Stockbridge with Main Street and the DDA and the council. [1:32:40, 1:32:44]: I don't think we're ready for all three of those to come together in retreat yet. [1:32:44, 1:33:04]: I think it's important for Main Street and DDA to come together and develop that relationship and get a game plan before we present it to the council, as he's saying, because I think it's it's that important that that we need to get ourselves in order before we go before the council because the council will come in with its own agenda. [1:33:06, 1:33:08]: I c I I can I can agree with that. [1:33:09, 1:33:15]: Um, I'll also touch on that. I think that people um may feel [1:33:15, 1:33:22]: somewhat intimidated sometimes if the council members are there um with regard to uh free discussion. [1:33:23, 1:33:36]: Um, I think that if we, you know, other than the council liaisons that are appointed to those particular boards, I think that if we have our retreat first and talk amongst ourselves about [1:33:37, 1:33:42]: downtown development and what we would like to see and what we would like to recommend. [1:33:42, 1:33:45]: And then maybe have an additional session. [1:33:46, 1:33:55]: where council is invited and we make presentations and have um free dialogue, I think that that might be a better idea. [1:33:55, 1:34:01]: Because um we have had situation number one, it's gonna be difficult enough to get. [1:34:01, 1:34:03]: The schedules of [1:34:04, 1:34:05]: About fifteen [1:34:05, 1:34:09]: people together and then adding an additional six work [1:34:09, 1:34:12]: you know, surpassing twenty people. [1:34:12, 1:34:15]: So that's also an issue and has been an issue in the past. [1:34:16, 1:34:23]: Where we weren't able to get all of our council members and all of our DDA members and everyone together in one place. [1:34:24, 1:34:27]: And it's also been a situation where um [1:34:28, 1:34:30]: The discussion has kind of been muddled. [1:34:31, 1:34:33]: So I think that I agree with Greg. [1:34:34, 1:34:40]: That it would probably be in our best interest to first have the two downtown organizations meet and then um [1:34:40, 1:34:42]: Incorporate the council. [1:34:42, 1:34:42]: Mm-hmm. [1:34:44, 1:34:45]: Anyone else? [1:34:47, 1:34:48]: I totally agree. [1:34:49, 1:34:50]: Okay. [1:34:51, 1:34:52]: I agree that um [1:34:52, 1:34:53]: Thank you. [1:34:53, 1:34:54]: Okay. [1:34:54, 1:34:58]: And thank you for pointing that out, Greg. Mr. Hopkins is giving the thumbs up. [1:34:58, 1:35:05]: So I think that that's what we'll try to do, Alan. We will um approach the DDA about trying to set up something. [1:35:05, 1:35:06]: Um by April. [1:35:07, 1:35:11]: for the two groups to meet and then we will look at the calendar for something. [1:35:11, 1:35:15]: a bit later after that session to include the council. [1:35:17, 1:35:17]: Okay. [1:35:18, 1:35:26]: All right. Um then just very quickly, and I know we're past time, so let me just quickly give you all an update on the amphitheater. [1:35:27, 1:35:28]: Um [1:35:28, 1:35:44]: Because I have some pictures, our other projects, what I'll do is send you all a written um update, email that out to you all so you all will be abreast of what's going on with our um projects. All of them are moving along. But let me share my screen really quickly. [1:35:46, 1:35:46]: Um [1:35:49, 1:35:51]: Can you all see that um [1:35:54, 1:35:55]: The Stockbridge amphitheater. [1:35:55, 1:35:56]: Yes. [1:35:56, 1:35:57]: Okay. [1:35:58, 1:36:00]: Um of course that is the um [1:36:01, 1:36:09]: Rendering for the um overall site, just wanted to refresh your memory on what it's supposed to look like um as the end product. [1:36:11, 1:36:16]: Um this is the construction that's going on now. Um I'm gonna use my [1:36:17, 1:36:30]: Cursor, if I can, to kind of show you some of the things that have changed since our last update. All of this brickwork has been completed. They're now doing the interiors. Um, this um [1:36:30, 1:36:37]: area here they've put in the pavers. Can't really tell that well from the picture, but all of this is [1:36:38, 1:36:48]: are um brick pavers in this area here and that's how it is in each one of the um entryways. You can see the stage coming up and the VIP area there. [1:36:49, 1:36:50]: Um so [1:36:50, 1:36:54]: The majority of the um exterior work has been done and they're now [1:36:55, 1:36:57]: doing um interiors. [1:36:58, 1:36:58]: Oops. [1:36:59, 1:37:07]: Um, this is an aerial view of the seating area. You can see that um this is a terraced. [1:37:07, 1:37:14]: Seating area here with stairs down the middle and all of the sides. This is right in front of the stage. [1:37:14, 1:37:18]: This area is I kind of call it the um [1:37:19, 1:37:37]: the um orchestra pit kind of seating area here where they'll be able to place um tables for special events um or additional seating. Then you have the seating that is right up adjacent to the stage. These are um [1:37:38, 1:37:41]: kind of pavilion like areas that have seating. [1:37:42, 1:37:43]: available um [1:37:44, 1:37:49]: And these are the ticketing wheel call and concession stands. [1:37:50, 1:37:52]: Um these three buildings here. [1:37:53, 1:38:00]: And Mr. Thomas, you've also had an update. So if you want to jump in, you can for any additional detail. [1:38:00, 1:38:03]: Um this area here, this is a um [1:38:03, 1:38:06]: shot where you can kind of see [1:38:06, 1:38:07]: The um [1:38:08, 1:38:17]: Oh, I pointed to the wrong area. This is the area where the tables and additional seating can go. I had pointed to this in the other picture. Is this area actually here? [1:38:17, 1:38:23]: where the tables and additional seating can go. Then you have the seating adjacent to the stage. [1:38:23, 1:38:31]: This is the terrace seating here. And this is underneath one of those little um pavilions where they have seating. [1:38:31, 1:38:33]: Um underneath the um [1:38:35, 1:38:41]: What do you want to call them? Canopies for lack of a better word here. And these are the three well, two of the three buildings. [1:38:42, 1:38:47]: that will um house wheel call, restrooms and the ticketing. [1:38:49, 1:38:50]: And concession stand. [1:38:52, 1:39:07]: Um, I wanted to show you all this. This is an interior view of um one of the rooms. Um, they're going to have a um VIP area and then also the dressing rooms for the um [1:39:07, 1:39:11]: People who perform um have performances there for the [1:39:12, 1:39:20]: Um, whoever is a part of the performance group, they'll have a dressing room, dressing rooms available. So just to give you an idea of [1:39:20, 1:39:25]: um the the modern and kind of um eclectic feel that they kind of have. [1:39:25, 1:39:27]: Um inside the [1:39:27, 1:39:28]: Um [1:39:28, 1:39:30]: VIP and dressing room area. [1:39:32, 1:39:42]: Um then we have the adjacent park area. This is an aerial view of where the um some additional parking and the walking and [1:39:42, 1:39:47]: Um walking trail and park area will be with um the pond. [1:39:49, 1:39:51]: Um trails walk going around the pond. [1:39:52, 1:40:02]: Um these are some of the program imagery um shots that provide yes, sir. Uh before you go, I wanted to make a comment here. Um [1:40:03, 1:40:07]: At our last council meeting and I want to share this to this with this group. [1:40:07, 1:40:25]: Uh if you could point to your cursor to the um I guess on the screen it would be up to the top. Yeah. I raised an issue there. Um if you notice, you know, you have a residential area, homeowners, etc. etc. I raised the issue of some type of um [1:40:25, 1:40:30]: Security fencing with some um greenery planted. [1:40:30, 1:40:35]: Um it is so close. If you travel, if you go back to Lee Street. [1:40:36, 1:40:37]: Bryant Street [1:40:38, 1:40:40]: That is so close. [1:40:40, 1:40:43]: Um, you know, and you know, we've had some issues. [1:40:44, 1:40:47]: Uh you know, very street right there. [1:40:47, 1:40:53]: Right. Right. But um but we've had some issues. So I'm pushing the city to [1:40:54, 1:41:01]: um invest in some type of uh security fencing back there to separate that from the homeowners. [1:41:01, 1:41:04]: Um, you know, I'm really concerned about [1:41:04, 1:41:16]: you know, some other issues, but I just wanted to share that with this group. I don't know if anyone else will will have that concern. Once you sort of go out there and you'd be able to see how close [1:41:16, 1:41:19]: Uh that resident area is [1:41:19, 1:41:28]: uh to that particular location right there. It just you walk out your back door and you're on the campus of the amphitheater. And that raises a little concern for me. [1:41:29, 1:41:43]: Um, I agree and um was at the m meeting and heard that being brought up. I definitely agree. And then I also think that in the future there might even have to be some sound barrier type walls. [1:41:44, 1:41:46]: Yeah. [1:41:46, 1:41:47]: Yes. Um [1:41:48, 1:41:50]: But these are some um [1:41:50, 1:42:06]: program imagery photos that kind of give you an idea of what they're planning. Um of course these are shots in other um locales, but they're planning to have a a pond with a water feature, an overlook where you kind of look down into the area. [1:42:07, 1:42:09]: Окурс, трес и [1:42:10, 1:42:17]: Um, so that kind of gives you an idea about that. And this is the actual site. Here is the um [1:42:18, 1:42:28]: the um amphitheater campus and then this is the adjacent park area. As you see can see they have planned some parking. [1:42:28, 1:42:36]: This is the overlook area that I mentioned where you'll kind of be able to stand on a platform and look down into [1:42:36, 1:42:40]: the pond and walking trail area. This building here. [1:42:41, 1:42:44]: Is that home that is still on? [1:42:45, 1:42:51]: Um East Atlanta Road, they call it the Stockbridge Museum Building because there was talk about [1:42:52, 1:42:58]: putting the museum there. But I think since they have started talking about tearing that building down, haven't they? [1:42:58, 1:43:00]: Um, Mr. Thomas. [1:43:01, 1:43:02]: Yes, um [1:43:04, 1:43:08]: There is a plan for the um [1:43:08, 1:43:10]: Uber and Lyft. [1:43:11, 1:43:11]: Um [1:43:12, 1:43:12]: Area. [1:43:13, 1:43:20]: Um I I really can't get into details right now, but yes, uh there are plans for that particular building. [1:43:20, 1:43:24]: Whether to um tear down or utilize it. [1:43:24, 1:43:26]: Um yeah. [1:43:26, 1:43:31]: Well, I was excited when they were talking about um making that the museum area. [1:43:31, 1:43:36]: Since um, you know, we had originally planned for the Main Street. [1:43:37, 1:43:37]: Um [1:43:38, 1:43:44]: office to be in the f old fire station and we were going to have a museum area there. So [1:43:44, 1:43:57]: Um, I was kind of excited when they said they were going to do the museum here since we're no longer able to be located in the fire station. But now that might change a little bit too. So we'll see what happens, but that just kind of gives you all. [1:43:58, 1:44:06]: Well, I'll be honest with I'll be honest with you, Ms. Bragg. I I never heard of that that concept of a of a museum in that building. I haven't I'm not familiar with that. [1:44:07, 1:44:12]: Oh, I had heard it and maybe that was just something that they were kind of tossing around. [1:44:13, 1:44:19]: In the early stages of it, but I don't know. Well originally uh the [1:44:20, 1:44:21]: Um [1:44:21, 1:44:25]: management company that would do all of the bookings, et cetera, et cetera. [1:44:25, 1:44:30]: Uh it was talked about utilizing that building for for that purpose. [1:44:30, 1:44:35]: Yeah, I had heard we'll call management and museum, so [1:44:35, 1:44:36]: Yeah, so [1:44:37, 1:44:52]: What several concepts have been, I guess ideas have been tossed around, but it looks like it's gonna go anyway. So um I think that the Uber and Lyft areas are very important. So if that's where they're planning to put it, I think that that would be a good move. [1:44:52, 1:44:53]: Yeah. [1:44:53, 1:45:08]: Okay, so um the other projects I'll send you all a written um update and you all can let me know if you have any questions, but everything is moving along. Um the numbers have been um given to [1:45:08, 1:45:18]: our city um manager and we're going to be selecting a contractor hopefully um very soon I have a meeting next week to kind of discuss that. [1:45:18, 1:45:26]: And they have um on the alleyway project, they have moved forward with getting the environmental um studies done. [1:45:26, 1:45:27]: So [1:45:28, 1:45:36]: Everything's moving along, and I'm very happy so far with um that pri progress, given the fact that we have the amphitheater project going on. [1:45:37, 1:45:38]: As well. [1:45:38, 1:45:40]: And let's see. Um [1:45:41, 1:45:49]: Mrs. Berger, if if I may add, I know it's been a concern and there's been questions since there's a void now of [1:45:50, 1:45:52]: Uh rental space. [1:45:52, 1:45:53]: Um [1:45:54, 1:45:58]: That there's a concern about availability of rental space for [1:45:59, 1:46:05]: Uh residents that may want a small venue. So I just wanted to indicate that the green room. [1:46:05, 1:46:23]: uh there at the um amphitheater will be utilized for for that purpose. So um must we will try to get that message out to everyone to know that that space will be available for citizens to be able to rent for some of those uh small venues. [1:46:23, 1:46:27]: Right. [1:46:29, 1:46:31]: Yes, that's true. Um [1:46:33, 1:46:39]: Okay. Um Barber has not joined us with regard to um a DDA report. [1:46:39, 1:46:41]: But I will um [1:46:42, 1:46:53]: Just let you I already told you that I'll be um attending the DDA meeting and we'll bring that um information um with regard to trying to schedule a joint meeting to them at that time. [1:46:53, 1:46:56]: Kara, give me Kira, give me the date again. I don't have my calendar. [1:46:57, 1:46:59]: Which day the D D A meeting. [1:47:00, 1:47:06]: It's next um Tuesday. Um that's the sixteenth. [1:47:06, 1:47:07]: Okay. [1:47:08, 1:47:08]: Okay. [1:47:10, 1:47:14]: All right. Um, and that concludes my report. [1:47:17, 1:47:20]: Thank you so much, Miss Braggs, for your report. [1:47:20, 1:47:25]: Um are there any additional questions for Miss Bryce? [1:47:26, 1:47:27]: Broken science. [1:47:29, 1:47:39]: Okay. Um Karen Nunn and Ashley stated. Oh sorry. Ms. Kieran, did you see my question to you regarding Facebook? [1:47:41, 1:47:42]: I did not. [1:47:42, 1:47:43]: Oh, I'm sorry. [1:47:44, 1:47:49]: Okay, I I was under the impression you wanted me to give an update on the Facebook campaigns, but in [1:47:51, 1:47:55]: Uh, realizing the time, I'm not sure if we still need to do that today. [1:47:55, 1:47:59]: Um we'll give that report at our next meeting just um as a um [1:47:59, 1:48:00]: A recap. [1:48:01, 1:48:02]: Okay. Okay, thanks. [1:48:05, 1:48:07]: Thank you, Ms. Mm-hmm. [1:48:08, 1:48:10]: Anything else or anyone else? [1:48:11, 1:48:13]: I guess we can just say um [1:48:14, 1:48:17]: Be sure to follow our Facebook. We've got some um [1:48:18, 1:48:25]: Local love campaign ads running and also some Black History Um Month ads running as well. [1:48:28, 1:48:30]: Okay, great. [1:48:31, 1:48:43]: Um with us not having a D D D A report um for today, are there any our final agenda item is announcements or concerns? Do we have any? [1:48:45, 1:48:46]: Yes, Mr. Hopkins. [1:48:46, 1:48:55]: Uh I just want to uh welcome Mr. Peterson to this uh Stockbridge family. Uh this is my first time meeting him, and uh hopefully uh [1:48:55, 1:49:03]: I'll get a chance to meet him in person when this pandemic over until we get into a neutral place. But I just want to welcome him to the to the city. I know he can do some outstanding things. [1:49:04, 1:49:06]: Thank you very much, and I'm I'm looking forward to it. [1:49:07, 1:49:12]: You know what? I just realized that Alan, this is the first time you all are seeing Alan. [1:49:13, 1:49:15]: He was at our meeting last month. [1:49:16, 1:49:26]: But we couldn't see him. We heard his voice, but we couldn't see him. So I'm sorry about that, Alan. I uh I that was my bad. [1:49:26, 1:49:39]: I should have introduced you, but everyone, this is Alan Peterson, our new um economic development director for the city of Stockbridge. And um Main Street staff will be reporting directly to Alan. [1:49:41, 1:49:52]: Yes, thank you, Miss Braggs. That was definitely on the list of things we were gonna bring up because we were like, okay, Mr. Peterson, introduce yourself, sir. But that's been covered. So thank you both. [1:49:53, 1:49:55]: For welcoming him and ensuring that we [1:49:55, 1:50:11]: identified his role and we are so happy to work with you and you know we cannot wait to have the economic development and the downtown development and Main Street all merge together and just continue to grow. We're very excited, very excited. [1:50:12, 1:50:14]: Any other announcements or concerns? [1:50:17, 1:50:30]: All right, hearing none, all hearts and minds are clear. We would love to ask for a motion to adjourn our meeting at 1046 a.m. today, uh February the 12th of 2021. [1:50:32, 1:50:37]: Madam Chair, I move that the uh Main Street Board uh adjoin. [1:50:38, 1:50:40]: Favorite. [1:50:41, 1:50:42]: I'll second it must there. [1:50:43, 1:50:53]: Yes, sir. Um we will at this point just ask if you would acknowledge that you are in favor of um the meeting adjourning by stating [1:50:54, 1:50:55]: Yes. [1:50:57, 1:50:59]: Or typing it in the chat. [1:51:00, 1:51:01]: Yes. [1:51:02, 1:51:05]: Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. [1:51:06, 1:51:14]: Okay. Thank you all. And we would like to join our meeting and wish you a wonderful weekend again of love. [1:51:15, 1:51:26]: Hey, and thanks for your patience, everyone. And I'll be getting that committee, um, I'll be getting that committee invitation out and the update about our um downtown projects out to everybody as well. [1:51:26, 1:51:28]: So keep an eye on your email. [1:51:29, 1:51:33]: Thanks everybody. Thank you. Take care. [1:51:43, 1:51:45]: Hey, hey Ma hey, you have two [1:51:46, 1:51:46]: