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    --- title: October 8 2018 City Council Meeting date: 2018-10-08 source: 2018-10-08_October_8_2018_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:01, 0:00:09]: Citizens, could you Citizens, please calm citizens, please calm down? Yeah. Yeah, I know where you're playing with it. Okay, all right. [0:00:10, 0:00:12]: Thank you, thank you, thank you. [0:00:12, 0:00:17]: Um I'd like to call the meeting in order. It uh 602. This is uh Monday, October 8th. [0:00:18, 0:00:19]: Yeah. [0:00:20, 0:00:22]: Annual, excuse me, a a monthly council meeting. [0:00:24, 0:00:26]: Wanna have an invocation, Mr. Blount, please. [0:00:26, 0:00:28]: Please stand if you can, people. [0:00:30, 0:00:50]: We thank you for this time following that we come into this place that we're following. Bill, each and every one of us have a following sound decision for the city. We have a following little bunch of move as well. We thank you for each and every staff and each and every person here today. [0:00:50, 0:00:54]: Let me see who I can go over here. [0:00:55, 0:01:10]: And I put religions to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which stands one nation under God and deal with the religious justice to our God. [0:01:11, 0:01:14]: Okay. Madam Clerk, I need a roll call. [0:01:38, 0:01:39]: Councilman Thomas. [0:01:39, 0:01:41]: Present. Councilman Blount. [0:01:41, 0:01:47]: Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilwoman Robinson. [0:01:48, 0:01:51]: Mayor Ford, do you have a quorum? Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. [0:01:51, 0:01:54]: Council, I need a motion to adopt an agenda, please. [0:01:54, 0:01:55]: Come on. [0:01:55, 0:01:56]: Said a second. [0:01:56, 0:01:57]: Second. [0:01:58, 0:01:59]: In discussion. [0:02:00, 0:02:01]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:02:02, 0:02:03]: Thank you very much. [0:02:04, 0:02:07]: I need a motion to adopt the minutes from the following meetings. [0:02:08, 0:02:10]: Eight uh August twenty eighth, twenty eighteen. [0:02:11, 0:02:12]: And September tenth, twenty eighteen. [0:02:13, 0:02:13]: Remove. [0:02:14, 0:02:15]: Is there a second? [0:02:17, 0:02:19]: Is okay there we go. Thank you very much. Any discussion? [0:02:21, 0:02:22]: All in favor, please indicate. [0:02:23, 0:02:25]: All right, thank you very much. [0:02:25, 0:02:27]: Uh ladies and gentlemen, um [0:02:27, 0:02:31]: Before the meeting we actually had a a ceremontal sor ceremontal [0:02:32, 0:02:35]: Ceremonial. Ceremonial, excuse me. Ceremonial. [0:02:36, 0:02:38]: Tongue tied a little bit tonight. Ceremonial review. [0:02:38, 0:02:45]: And what I'd like to do is recap that for the individuals that may have missed it. Of course, you know this is breast cancer proclamation and breast cancer awareness month. [0:02:45, 0:02:49]: So a proclamation two actually were given out of breast cancer awareness. [0:02:50, 0:02:56]: for the Thriving and Surviving Breast Cancer Support Group founder, CEO Rhonda Williams, who's still in the audience. [0:02:56, 0:02:57]: Thank you, ma'am. [0:02:58, 0:03:01]: And uh the Henry County Board of Elections uh chair [0:03:01, 0:03:04]: Mildred Snolz and she is still here as well, I believe. [0:03:04, 0:03:05]: Okay. [0:03:05, 0:03:11]: So thank you ladies for being present for that and uh for us to recognize you and the rest of the breast cancer survivors for this. [0:03:11, 0:03:12]: This month as well. [0:03:13, 0:03:15]: And also October is domestic uh [0:03:16, 0:03:24]: uh violence awareness month and uh director for haven house this katie uh tucker was here to receive that proclamation. I believe she's still in the house as well. [0:03:24, 0:03:26]: Uh thank you for being here, Ms. Tucker. [0:03:27, 0:03:28]: And um [0:03:29, 0:03:32]: And also September 15th to October 15th is Hispanic Heritage Month. [0:03:33, 0:03:39]: And uh we we honor the Latinos and Hispanic Americans for the rec for the recognition of contribution to the American public. [0:03:40, 0:03:41]: And we did that proclamation as well. [0:03:42, 0:03:51]: And we had one uh recognition as well as a former DDA employee, uh Mildred uh Reed, who resigned and and so we gave her [0:03:52, 0:03:55]: recognition for amount of years, I believe it was four different year four years that she was on the DDA. [0:03:56, 0:03:59]: And so uh we did that as well to recognize her. So [0:03:59, 0:04:03]: I want you to just know that we did that earlier tonight. So congratulations to all you folks. [0:04:08, 0:04:15]: And on that note, uh Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? Mayor Ford, we have one public comment from Sylvia Dennis Ray. Okay. [0:04:19, 0:04:22]: Yeah, come on up to the mic and give your name and address, please. [0:04:32, 0:04:36]: Good evening, Mayor. Um I am Sylvia Dennis Ray. [0:04:36, 0:04:40]: And I am the walk chair of the Henry County Walk to End Alzheimer's. [0:04:40, 0:05:00]: And I just wanted to come and thank Mayor and Council for your support in our walk that we had on September 29th. And I just wanted to also let you guys know that we had a total of 500 plus walkers out there that day. And we also [0:05:00, 0:05:20]: So to date have raised over$40,000. So we just wanted to say thank you, thank you, thank you so much for your support. And also let you guys know that we are still raising. We raise money up until the end of November. So we're only$15,000 short of our [0:05:20, 0:05:24]: go but we wanted to say thank you. [0:05:29, 0:05:31]: Okay, no. Okay. [0:05:31, 0:05:34]: So what's on the agenda next is actually a public hearing. [0:05:34, 0:05:41]: Over RZ-18-12 dash S parcel number 012-02-00905. [0:05:41, 0:05:44]: 9051, lot size 7.3. [0:05:45, 0:05:48]: Five three acres, applicant Martin Bonina. [0:05:49, 0:05:51]: Yeah, one one zero eight patentway in Madonna. [0:05:52, 0:05:55]: This deals with a tributary parkway off of uh [0:05:55, 0:05:56]: Highway one thirty eight. [0:05:56, 0:05:59]: West L L forty two of the twelfth district. [0:06:00, 0:06:03]: Purpose for this would be self-storage. Miss Moore, please. [0:06:05, 0:06:06]: Yes more. [0:06:09, 0:06:11]: Miss Moore. [0:06:15, 0:06:18]: I thought you're sitting. Okay. [0:06:20, 0:06:25]: [386.4, 392.5]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Welcome, thank you. What we have before you tonight is a rezoning case. [0:06:33, 0:06:35]: Mm. Um [0:06:35, 0:06:36]: The caseum is RZ. [0:06:37, 0:06:39]: 1812. S. [0:06:40, 0:06:43]: So a little bit of information about the particular zoning case. [0:06:44, 0:06:48]: What you have before you is the first page from Hemie County Planet and Zoning. [0:06:48, 0:06:51]: So the applicant is Martin Bonia. [0:06:51, 0:06:54]: who lives at one one hundred eight Patton Way, McDonough, Georgia. [0:06:55, 0:06:59]: The location, tributary parkway off Highway 138 West. [0:06:59, 0:07:02]: The land lot is 42 of the 12th district. [0:07:02, 0:07:08]: What the applicant is asking for is rezoning C2 from general commercial to C3 heavy commercial. [0:07:08, 0:07:13]: The parcel ID is 0112-02-009051. [0:07:13, 0:07:17]: The proposed use is for self-storage, the current land use is undeveloped. [0:07:18, 0:07:21]: Future land use is low density. The sign was posted. [0:07:21, 0:07:23]: On july the nineteenth. [0:07:23, 0:07:27]: We actually had our planning commission hearing last month. [0:07:27, 0:07:30]: And just want to share with you a little bit about the property. [0:07:30, 0:07:31]: and what they're requesting. [0:07:32, 0:07:36]: Uh as you know, our initial applications go to Henry County Zoning Department. [0:07:37, 0:07:40]: If you look in your package, um after their review [0:07:40, 0:07:44]: The Henry County Planning Division came back with a recommendation [0:07:44, 0:07:48]: that the applicant's request to rezoning actually be approved. [0:07:52, 0:07:57]: What we would like to do is show you a site view of the particular property if you look on your screens. [0:07:57, 0:07:59]: Here is a view to the west. [0:08:01, 0:08:02]: Here's a view to the east. [0:08:04, 0:08:05]: Here's a view to [0:08:05, 0:08:06]: The West [0:08:07, 0:08:08]: And here is the land use. [0:08:09, 0:08:16]: Based on this particular land use, both the Planning Commission and staff disagrees with Henry County recommendation of approval. [0:08:16, 0:08:20]: Both groups actually recommended denial and here's the reason why. [0:08:20, 0:08:25]: If you look at your future land use, most of the uses which are around this particular request [0:08:25, 0:08:27]: are actually residential. [0:08:27, 0:08:30]: And the C two zoning that is there [0:08:30, 0:08:38]: is basically what we normally see in our mixed developments where you will have a lot of residential and then what you have is what you would see is a C2 zoning. [0:08:38, 0:08:42]: mom and pop, dry cleaner, grocery store, something of that nature. [0:08:43, 0:08:47]: And so it is our belief that mayor and council should deny this particular request. [0:08:47, 0:08:52]: because it's not consistent with the future land use for this particular area. [0:08:52, 0:08:57]: In other words, what we recommend is that you stay consistent with the current growth patterns. [0:08:57, 0:09:00]: and the current and future land use which pretty much says [0:09:00, 0:09:04]: Keep it residential, but if you're going to allow any commercial use. [0:09:04, 0:09:06]: to allow it to be C two [0:09:06, 0:09:10]: rather than heavy commercial, which is three three. [0:09:10, 0:09:13]: And what the applicant is asking, the only way that he can have self-storage. [0:09:14, 0:09:16]: is to be C three, which is heavy commercial. [0:09:16, 0:09:20]: So therefore both the Planning Commission and staff object to this request. [0:09:20, 0:09:24]: And we're recommending that you deny the applicant's request to rezone. [0:09:25, 0:09:30]: Okay, curiosity question. I'm I'm assuming that the Nile is based on also well you gave the explanation, but [0:09:30, 0:09:39]: And our comprehensive plan we just finished. It's it's in sync, the denial is in sync with that I'm I'm that's correct, because based on your current land use and your future land use [0:09:39, 0:09:44]: This area actually calls for continued residential development, which is single family. [0:09:44, 0:09:47]: and some commercial use that supports [0:09:48, 0:09:53]: the residential development. In other words again, it looks for a a cleaners, a grocery store. [0:09:53, 0:09:59]: you know, uh restaurant, something of that nature to support the number of residential units that are around it. [0:09:59, 0:10:01]: And if you look at this, and I may have another map. [0:10:02, 0:10:04]: that actually speaks to [0:10:04, 0:10:08]: uh the number of residential subdivisions that are around there. [0:10:08, 0:10:10]: Maybe this map. [0:10:11, 0:10:12]: And here you go. [0:10:12, 0:10:15]: Here are the maps that speaks to [0:10:15, 0:10:18]: all of the subdivisions that surround this proposed rezoning. [0:10:19, 0:10:23]: And as you can see, it is heavily rev residential, single family detached. [0:10:23, 0:10:24]: Okay. [0:10:24, 0:10:31]: Appreciate it. Now I realize this is a public hearing, but what I'd like to do first is allow the council to ask questions before open to the public hearing. [0:10:31, 0:10:33]: Okay. So council, how what kind of questions do you have? Anybody? [0:10:35, 0:10:41]: No one has any questions. Okay, go right ahead, sir. So there's been great concern obviously about the project. I've heard from a number of [0:10:41, 0:10:43]: Community members. Um [0:10:43, 0:10:44]: I guess um [0:10:45, 0:10:48]: So the staff had recommended denial on the particular project. [0:10:48, 0:10:51]: in conflict with uh what Henry County [0:10:51, 0:10:53]: uh had uh proposed as well. [0:10:53, 0:11:13]: So I what I did not see um was any type of renderings or anything on the project so that the neighbors have there been any engagement with the neighbors at all among from the on the on behalf of the applicant at all periods. Well as you know Commissioner, I mean Councilman Alexander, the request actually still goes to Henry County. [0:11:13, 0:11:21]: We won't actually take over this function until the end of this year. So the typical process when it comes in a rezoning comes in. [0:11:21, 0:11:26]: if there were any questions or concerns, typically because the county does the analysis on the front end. [0:11:26, 0:11:30]: then those comments and concerns would have gone to Henry County. [0:11:30, 0:11:36]: What we basically do is once we get it, we actually address those concerns during the planning commission process. [0:11:37, 0:11:42]: Which most of these individuals and citizens did attend that meeting and express their concerns based on [0:11:42, 0:11:45]: the recommendation that they had as well as that presented by staff. [0:11:46, 0:11:49]: Well do do we ha do we have access to those [0:11:49, 0:11:52]: uh comments and those objections from the neighbors'cause [0:11:52, 0:11:55]: uh for us to see that was submitted to Henry County. [0:11:55, 0:11:57]: Uh at that point we would've been able to see [0:11:57, 0:12:02]: more of this trail of building that uh from community opposition. [0:12:02, 0:12:03]: And maybe that uh [0:12:04, 0:12:04]: The [0:12:04, 0:12:07]: uh applicant could speak to. So have we seen it and had the [0:12:08, 0:12:18]: The feedback from the community and has the applicant seen the feedback? We we only have the feedback from our planning commission. Uh Henry County in your SSD agreement does not require them. [0:12:18, 0:12:20]: to send us any comments that they get. [0:12:20, 0:12:26]: So typically the only thing that we get from them is the analysis, the posting of the the zoning sign. [0:12:26, 0:12:28]: and basically their recommendation. [0:12:28, 0:12:33]: And then we take it from there and then we do what we need to do on our side so we don't have access. [0:12:34, 0:12:36]: uh to that information. But what we do have access to [0:12:36, 0:12:38]: is the comments and what we say it. [0:12:38, 0:12:45]: during the planning commission meeting. Follow up. Based on what you've seen so far that you've had come your way in these comments. [0:12:46, 0:12:51]: kinda categorize what you have seen, the number of pro, the number of con. [0:12:51, 0:12:53]: That kind of thing. Can you go over that with us? [0:12:53, 0:12:59]: Um based on what the attendance was at the Planning Commission meeting, there was probably more people at that meeting than this particular meeting. [0:13:00, 0:13:02]: And uh it was one hundred percent [0:13:02, 0:13:03]: In opposition. [0:13:03, 0:13:10]: uh in reference and I'm sure they will come up and speak themselves but based on our minutes that we took from that meeting [0:13:10, 0:13:13]: There was no one in the crowd that was in support of it. [0:13:13, 0:13:20]: Uh but basically our position was based on what your standards say in terms of your land use and your comp plan. [0:13:20, 0:13:24]: and just based on your current land use, your future land use. [0:13:24, 0:13:27]: and currently what is out there on the ground today. [0:13:27, 0:13:31]: I think that is the reason why both the Planning Commission and staff recommend denial. [0:13:31, 0:13:32]: Thank you. [0:13:32, 0:13:34]: Any other comments from the council? [0:13:34, 0:13:35]: Mr. Mayor. [0:13:36, 0:13:37]: Thank you, uh [0:13:37, 0:13:38]: Mrs. Moore. [0:13:38, 0:13:41]: For me, I I think we do have to be consistent. [0:13:42, 0:13:43]: With the land use. [0:13:43, 0:13:45]: Uh I think we have to be consistent with [0:13:46, 0:13:47]: Future planning. [0:13:47, 0:13:48]: And [0:13:49, 0:13:54]: For me, I I I don't know the applicant and I know they will probably have opportunity to speak. [0:13:55, 0:13:56]: And I just really want to know [0:13:56, 0:14:00]: When you do come up I'll I ask now and you can respond when you get here. [0:14:00, 0:14:01]: Um [0:14:02, 0:14:05]: You have a chance to look at the future land use. [0:14:05, 0:14:07]: Uh of this particular area. [0:14:07, 0:14:10]: As far as the city of Stockbridge was concerned. [0:14:10, 0:14:15]: Okay, we'll give'em up You can wait till you get here, but that's one of my concerns. [0:14:15, 0:14:17]: uh that you have an opportunity [0:14:17, 0:14:18]: to review [0:14:19, 0:14:22]: the future and where the city of Stockbridge is really trying to go. [0:14:22, 0:14:24]: with that particular um land there. [0:14:25, 0:14:25]: That area. [0:14:26, 0:14:29]: Any other comments from the council? Any other comments from the council? [0:14:29, 0:14:30]: Can explain all that. [0:14:31, 0:14:33]: Just one real. [0:14:33, 0:14:34]: Yeah, I just wanted to uh [0:14:35, 0:14:36]: Echo something that [0:14:36, 0:14:36]: Yeah. [0:14:36, 0:14:39]: the applicant have a full understanding that because uh [0:14:41, 0:14:44]: It came up with the Henry County, that the city of Stockbridge itself. [0:14:45, 0:14:46]: has has a comprehensive plan. [0:14:47, 0:14:49]: within itself on on land uses. [0:14:49, 0:14:50]: And uh [0:14:51, 0:14:54]: When we talk about density and low density and high density, we have a [0:14:55, 0:14:57]: We have standards within the city, so [0:14:57, 0:14:59]: It's not uncommon for [0:14:59, 0:15:00]: The county. [0:15:01, 0:15:01]: To approve. [0:15:02, 0:15:02]: Um [0:15:03, 0:15:04]: Applicants. [0:15:05, 0:15:07]: But the when it comes to the local [0:15:08, 0:15:09]: when it comes into the city. [0:15:10, 0:15:12]: It has to meet our standards. [0:15:12, 0:15:15]: before it goes forward and that's what I want everybody here to notice. [0:15:15, 0:15:16]: That's hearing that that [0:15:16, 0:15:18]: The county can approve. [0:15:18, 0:15:22]: But when it comes to the city of Stockbridge, we have standards that we're trying to set for the community. [0:15:23, 0:15:23]: Because [0:15:24, 0:15:27]: That's why we did our own comp plan, comprehensive plan. [0:15:29, 0:15:31]: Okay. [0:15:32, 0:15:35]: If not then um pronounce it uh [0:15:35, 0:15:36]: Bonina, Bino Bonina. [0:15:37, 0:15:38]: Yeah, co can you come forward, sir? [0:15:38, 0:15:39]: Okay. [0:15:41, 0:15:43]: And uh like for you to give your name. [0:15:43, 0:15:45]: I'm maybe I can pronounce it properly here, but uh [0:15:45, 0:15:50]: Also uh and then tell us what you need to tell us so we can at least hear your thoughts, sir. Okay. [0:15:51, 0:15:53]: My name is Martin Bonnea and uh I [0:15:54, 0:15:56]: One shop over here and stuck bridge too, you can [0:15:56, 0:15:58]: See right behind um two hundred twenty eight. [0:15:59, 0:16:01]: Right behind the Waffle's auto motorsport. [0:16:02, 0:16:02]: Um [0:16:03, 0:16:04]: I was looking to develop their land. [0:16:05, 0:16:06]: And uh [0:16:06, 0:16:09]: Seven acres and so make a storage place. [0:16:10, 0:16:12]: We buy the land a couple years back. [0:16:13, 0:16:13]: And uh [0:16:14, 0:16:19]: You can see in the front, like you see the pictures before, it's a shopping center. [0:16:19, 0:16:21]: It's already built from ten years ago. [0:16:22, 0:16:23]: Nobody rent the place. [0:16:24, 0:16:26]: Because it's never gonna work like [0:16:26, 0:16:29]: The lady said shopping centres or uh [0:16:30, 0:16:32]: you know, any kind of another development on that. [0:16:32, 0:16:35]: area because my land is not in the front where you show the picture over there. [0:16:36, 0:16:39]: The land is behind the shopping centre. [0:16:39, 0:16:40]: And um [0:16:42, 0:16:47]: First thing I can show you some things right now the land is collecting only, you know, trash from the [0:16:47, 0:16:48]: People throwing [0:16:49, 0:16:50]: And and on other things. [0:16:50, 0:16:51]: You can see [0:16:52, 0:16:53]: Like what they build a road. [0:16:53, 0:16:56]: And all those uh collecting the [0:16:57, 0:16:58]: The storm [0:16:58, 0:17:02]: the collectors they they steal from there and [0:17:02, 0:17:05]: It's not safe area. Like if we're gonna go and make a [0:17:06, 0:17:07]: Um storage place. [0:17:07, 0:17:08]: Just gonna be [0:17:08, 0:17:09]: More clean. [0:17:10, 0:17:10]: More safe. [0:17:11, 0:17:13]: light and everything and it's not gonna be like [0:17:13, 0:17:15]: heavy commercial like building anything. [0:17:15, 0:17:18]: Any kind of noise for the neighbors to bother the neighbors? [0:17:18, 0:17:19]: Yeah, I knew. [0:17:19, 0:17:21]: Like a it's gonna be [0:17:21, 0:17:23]: to help for the community and for the city too. [0:17:24, 0:17:25]: Okay. [0:17:25, 0:17:27]: I'm gonna start with you, uh uh uh [0:17:28, 0:17:37]: Uh Councilman Ali Fonsel Thomas. Yes. Yeah, I I want the applicant to understand that it's really [0:17:37, 0:17:39]: Not about you. [0:17:39, 0:17:41]: And I think for any future applicants. [0:17:42, 0:17:43]: I I think they must [0:17:44, 0:17:47]: look into the City of Stockbridge land use plan. [0:17:47, 0:17:48]: for that particular area. [0:17:49, 0:17:51]: And I think we're going to be consistent with that. [0:17:52, 0:17:53]: And uh [0:17:54, 0:17:57]: This is just for me it it's just not a fit. [0:17:57, 0:17:59]: Uh just based on [0:17:59, 0:18:02]: Well the sit of stock bridge is trying to go future wide. [0:18:02, 0:18:05]: So it really has nothing to do with you personally. [0:18:06, 0:18:08]: It's about the city of Stockbridge. [0:18:08, 0:18:10]: and where we're trying to go. [0:18:10, 0:18:12]: And I'll just encourage any applicant [0:18:12, 0:18:15]: before they really come to us as a body. [0:18:16, 0:18:21]: to try to get in tune with where we're trying to go, and I know you are a business owner and you're [0:18:22, 0:18:26]: you may already own the land or you in the process of purchasing or whatever. [0:18:26, 0:18:30]: But I think Africans need to understand where we're trying to go. [0:18:30, 0:18:31]: uh future wave [0:18:32, 0:18:34]: And take that in consideration. [0:18:34, 0:18:36]: you know, before you actually come. [0:18:36, 0:18:39]: And again, it has nothing to do with you individually. [0:18:39, 0:18:41]: And personally. [0:18:41, 0:18:43]: where we're just trying to go as a city. [0:18:43, 0:18:47]: And we put a lot of time and effort in creating this land use plan. [0:18:48, 0:18:50]: And we're just trying to be consistent with that. [0:18:51, 0:19:03]: Question Bill Four, d did you get a chance to even see the comprehensive plan at all? I think that was part of the question. Did you do you know what he's referring to at all? The plans? Yeah, I see him. You did see the land yeah, comprehensive land use plan. Okay. All right. [0:19:03, 0:19:05]: So be it. Any other questions for [0:19:05, 0:19:06]: The correct. [0:19:06, 0:19:12]: Really quick because right off the bat I'm just sitting here thinking, I could think about six stories room that's around the city of Stockbridge. [0:19:13, 0:19:13]: Um [0:19:13, 0:19:15]: You say you already have a storage unit? [0:19:16, 0:19:16]: No. [0:19:17, 0:19:19]: I have a a shop like a [0:19:20, 0:19:22]: Mm mechanic shop and collision shop right now. [0:19:22, 0:19:24]: On the exit, uh behind the waffle house. [0:19:25, 0:19:26]: Auto motor sport, rekon [0:19:27, 0:19:28]: But a new show we opened in December. [0:19:29, 0:19:32]: Okay. You made a comment that that your stories could [0:19:33, 0:19:35]: uh make the area safer, how is that? [0:19:36, 0:19:36]: Oh no. [0:19:37, 0:19:37]: Well right now. [0:19:38, 0:19:39]: I don't know if I can show you. [0:19:39, 0:19:41]: No, no, I'm pictures. [0:19:41, 0:19:42]: You can see the [0:19:42, 0:19:44]: You know the the [0:19:44, 0:19:46]: Trash from the yards, people throwing around. [0:19:47, 0:19:48]: And you can see the missing [0:19:49, 0:19:50]: Missing uh [0:19:51, 0:19:52]: uh dos uh [0:19:53, 0:19:54]: You know [0:19:54, 0:19:55]: Collecting the water. [0:19:55, 0:19:56]: Greenish and I [0:19:56, 0:19:57]: Mm. [0:19:57, 0:19:59]: Okay, minus 10, this this is vacant, right? [0:20:00, 0:20:02]: But what's on there now? Correct, it's undervalued. [0:20:03, 0:20:06]: Yeah, so usually when a property is vacant so long [0:20:06, 0:20:08]: Like that unoccupied. [0:20:08, 0:20:12]: The property is in the front. [0:20:12, 0:20:14]: Stop stop reaching safe. [0:20:15, 0:20:17]: Because we yeah, it is say uh but [0:20:17, 0:20:19]: But are we talking about the property over by Walmart? [0:20:20, 0:20:27]: No. Is this the one is this the one on down the county. It's on the county line. Right down the line going towards Spivey? Right. Oh okay. [0:20:28, 0:20:30]: Thanks. Any other questions from the council? [0:20:31, 0:20:42]: Uh uh no sir, I'd just like to make a motion to get okay. I've got public here. [0:20:42, 0:20:43]: Mm, nothing. [0:20:44, 0:20:58]: Okay, something? No, that's fine. No, that's okay. Please have a seat then if that's the case. Yes ma'am, go ahead. Mayor, uh because we had a lot of people here the last time, what we asked them to do was to send one representative because I think there are like five HOAs that were here. [0:20:58, 0:21:04]: And so if it's okay with you if they could follow the same format to have one representative for each of the HOAs. [0:21:04, 0:21:12]: uh that way and we gave them three minutes each. Okay. So if that's okay with you. We can we can work through that process. So right now I'll open up the public hearing. [0:21:12, 0:21:12]: And [0:21:14, 0:21:16]: And uh I know I'll turn to keep it straight. [0:21:16, 0:21:25]: So I want I want to sell on this very f my on my far left side, you you folks over here, anybody for the self-stores? Anybody for? Anybody for? [0:21:26, 0:21:29]: For HOAs. Four. Four to sell storage. [0:21:30, 0:21:30]: One equ [0:21:31, 0:21:34]: Yeah, but do you want us to make a comment for the self-storage? [0:21:35, 0:21:41]: That no y it's either yes no, sir. Either yes you do or you don't. Four four four against the subscore. [0:21:44, 0:21:48]: Or do you want to make a comment for favor? [0:21:50, 0:21:52]: Okay, okay, no one on this side. [0:21:52, 0:21:56]: Anybody in the middle who wants to make a comment in favor of the self-storage? [0:21:56, 0:22:00]: Okay, all the way over here. Anybody on this side in favor of self-storage? [0:22:00, 0:22:01]: Okay. [0:22:01, 0:22:13]: That's done. Now we'll go back to my left. Anybody over here that is against the self-store, not against it, and we'll take it by HOAs. I don't know how many HOAs over here, but only one person per HOA. [0:22:13, 0:22:22]: Okay. Okay, sir. You're you're one HOA. Come on up, sir. Give me your name and the the HOA and your address here, please. Come on. You're you're against this. So you make a comment and get three minutes. [0:22:26, 0:22:35]: Okay, yeah, my name is Nikki Ford and I'm the president of the uh homeowners association for Spivey Glenn and that's right across the street from this [0:22:35, 0:22:39]: This lot. So we we've got a hundred and eighty six homes in there and [0:22:40, 0:22:41]: Nobody wants anything that [0:22:42, 0:22:44]: Looks quite this industrial looking coming in. [0:22:45, 0:22:46]: Um [0:22:47, 0:22:51]: It it's just bad for that area. It's it's not gonna do anything for our home values. [0:22:51, 0:22:52]: It'd be bringing a lot of [0:22:53, 0:22:55]: Probably undesirable. [0:22:56, 0:22:58]: Transit's going in and out, you know. [0:22:59, 0:23:00]: uh trying to store their [0:23:01, 0:23:05]: You know, belongings and stuff like that. Just traffic that we're not looking for. [0:23:05, 0:23:05]: You know. [0:23:06, 0:23:08]: That we're trying to avoid, rather, you know. [0:23:09, 0:23:09]: Okay. [0:23:10, 0:23:10]: And that's [0:23:11, 0:23:17]: That it. Thank you, sir. Different. [0:23:18, 0:23:27]: But that's a that's against. Against. That's against. Sir you got his name? Okay. You against, sir? Come on up. This is all all against. No one else is for now. This is all gotta be against. [0:23:28, 0:23:29]: Different H O A. [0:23:30, 0:23:33]: And I guess you got his correct name now? Okay, good deal. [0:23:33, 0:23:35]: Name and HOA, sir. [0:23:36, 0:23:38]: Uh good afternoon. My name is Arnold Goodson. [0:23:38, 0:23:39]: I'm the president. [0:23:40, 0:23:40]: Of [0:23:41, 0:23:42]: Sweep ride Lake Joker Co. [0:23:43, 0:23:45]: Now sweet briot Lake Jodico [0:23:45, 0:23:46]: is in Clayton County. [0:23:47, 0:23:48]: But as you're aware of [0:23:49, 0:23:49]: Um [0:23:50, 0:23:52]: Many of the communities [0:23:52, 0:23:54]: uh in the area. [0:23:54, 0:23:55]: Or split. [0:23:56, 0:23:57]: between the counties. [0:23:58, 0:24:00]: Uh a street can be on [0:24:00, 0:24:03]: be in Henry County, another street can be in. [0:24:03, 0:24:04]: Clayton County. [0:24:05, 0:24:06]: In addition to that [0:24:07, 0:24:10]: I sit on the board of directors along with my friend [0:24:10, 0:24:11]: a Nick who just spoke. [0:24:12, 0:24:15]: for Lake Sparvy Communities Incorporated. [0:24:16, 0:24:20]: Uh that encompasses over twenty two communities that make up [0:24:20, 0:24:21]: The entire [0:24:21, 0:24:24]: Lake Sparvy area, which includes both Clayton [0:24:24, 0:24:25]: in Henry Counties. [0:24:27, 0:24:29]: Now there's no question that um [0:24:29, 0:24:31]: This type facility one. [0:24:32, 0:24:37]: is not going to be aesthetically appealing to the area to [0:24:37, 0:24:39]: It's gonna have an adverse impact. [0:24:40, 0:24:40]: On [0:24:41, 0:24:42]: Property values. [0:24:43, 0:24:44]: Uh three. [0:24:44, 0:24:47]: persons that have lived there for years. [0:24:47, 0:24:50]: have come there because of the current [0:24:52, 0:24:54]: Aesthetics of the area. [0:24:54, 0:24:58]: And did not want the additional traffic and so forth. If you could have just imagined. [0:24:59, 0:25:01]: You sitting and looking out of your window. [0:25:02, 0:25:03]: And looking. [0:25:03, 0:25:05]: At a storage facility. [0:25:07, 0:25:09]: With U Haul trucks. [0:25:09, 0:25:11]: or whatever kind of other trucks. [0:25:12, 0:25:15]: possibility of certain vehicles that are allowed to be stored there. [0:25:16, 0:25:17]: uh for different [0:25:17, 0:25:19]: uh periods of time and so forth. [0:25:21, 0:25:25]: So it is not something that is enhancing the area. [0:25:26, 0:25:27]: You've already stated. [0:25:27, 0:25:31]: or heard from your own staff concerning the future landloop. [0:25:32, 0:25:32]: Uh [0:25:32, 0:25:33]: land plant. [0:25:34, 0:25:35]: Um [0:25:36, 0:25:37]: In addition, I understand [0:25:38, 0:25:41]: uh very well about the zoning that takes place. [0:25:42, 0:25:43]: I'm also a member [0:25:44, 0:25:44]: Oh B. [0:25:45, 0:25:47]: zoning advisory group. [0:25:47, 0:25:49]: for Clayton County. [0:25:49, 0:25:51]: I'm out of district four. [0:25:52, 0:25:53]: But it was understood. [0:25:53, 0:25:54]: Yeah. [0:25:54, 0:25:55]: Uh [0:25:55, 0:25:56]: Uh [0:25:56, 0:25:59]: represent and look out for the [0:25:59, 0:26:00]: entire [0:26:00, 0:26:02]: Clayton County and how it looks. [0:26:02, 0:26:04]: That also is going to [0:26:04, 0:26:06]: uh include Henry County. [0:26:08, 0:26:10]: To be on record of note is to say that [0:26:11, 0:26:15]: He might want to try and put this in Henry County. [0:26:15, 0:26:18]: Uh it is hoped that it will not be approved. [0:26:18, 0:26:23]: as the recommendations of the staff and many of the folks that were here at the previous meeting. [0:26:24, 0:26:26]: It is also notable [0:26:26, 0:26:26]: To note [0:26:27, 0:26:28]: That the petitioner [0:26:28, 0:26:29]: was not here. [0:26:30, 0:26:31]: for the other meeting. [0:26:32, 0:26:33]: And therefore [0:26:33, 0:26:35]: We do not know what the interest level is. [0:26:36, 0:26:38]: if you're not here to speak on your own behalf. [0:26:39, 0:26:40]: And thirdly [0:26:41, 0:26:43]: My time is up. Yes, sir. That is true. [0:26:44, 0:26:49]: Point point of order. Hold on a second, calm down folks. Are you are you willing to allow them to finish this point? Point of order. [0:26:49, 0:26:52]: They had to agree to this particular [0:26:52, 0:26:54]: If if they don't agree to [0:26:54, 0:26:56]: The three minutes each. [0:26:56, 0:26:57]: They have a right to speak. [0:26:58, 0:27:06]: We got what it is. Do you all want to stand this time so we can finish this third point? Okay, we got that. Go ahead, sir. Finish your third point and close out. [0:27:07, 0:27:08]: Excuse me. [0:27:09, 0:27:10]: It's just thirdly. [0:27:10, 0:27:12]: uh that we have to [0:27:12, 0:27:13]: In sure. [0:27:13, 0:27:14]: Uh that we look at [0:27:15, 0:27:17]: the our design plans for the future. [0:27:18, 0:27:19]: Uh [0:27:19, 0:27:22]: Not necessarily because it's either Henry or Clayton. [0:27:22, 0:27:24]: But Henry and Clayton County [0:27:24, 0:27:26]: We work very closely together. [0:27:27, 0:27:28]: To make things happen. [0:27:29, 0:27:29]: Uh [0:27:30, 0:27:31]: Evidence of that. [0:27:31, 0:27:33]: is uh when we change [0:27:33, 0:27:34]: Um [0:27:35, 0:27:35]: one thirty eight. [0:27:36, 0:27:37]: to Lakes Bribey Parkway. [0:27:38, 0:27:40]: Portion of it is a Henry, portion of it is in Clayton. [0:27:41, 0:27:45]: The roundabout that is now going up off Black Hall Road. [0:27:45, 0:27:47]: off of J Lake Jotoko. [0:27:48, 0:27:50]: It's in Henry County, but it was also a push from [0:27:51, 0:27:52]: Clayton County. [0:27:52, 0:27:53]: And that push. [0:27:54, 0:27:55]: And efforts were [0:27:55, 0:27:56]: A lot of [0:27:56, 0:27:57]: Time was spent. [0:27:58, 0:28:03]: uh by those of us that sit on the legs private communities incorporated board. So [0:28:03, 0:28:05]: Uh we just uh asked [0:28:06, 0:28:07]: for your concurrence. [0:28:07, 0:28:09]: with your own staff. [0:28:09, 0:28:10]: And also with the [0:28:11, 0:28:15]: uh persons that are here in their interest. Thank you very much. Thank you sir. Appreciate it. [0:28:15, 0:28:15]: Okay. [0:28:16, 0:28:17]: Yes, ma'am. Okay. [0:28:17, 0:28:21]: Uh may I was just gonna say in uh defense of the petitioner. [0:28:21, 0:28:23]: He did come, there was a mix up in time. [0:28:23, 0:28:32]: So he actually got here late after the c planning commission met. I come here because they told me to come six or seven o'clock. They sent me the email. [0:28:32, 0:28:34]: And when I get here it was six thirty five. [0:28:35, 0:28:35]: But [0:28:36, 0:28:43]: So I I come before seven o'clock. Okay, good to thank you. Back over to the left side. Anybody else from a different HOA on this side that's against? [0:28:44, 0:28:45]: This self storage. [0:28:45, 0:28:54]: Okay, if not, Miss Middle, anybody against the self-storage from HOA who has not spoken yet? Okay, come on up, man, please. [0:28:57, 0:28:59]: Give a name and H O A and the address, please now. [0:29:02, 0:29:06]: My name is Marsha Punsack and I'm a member of the Spivy Ridge. [0:29:06, 0:29:07]: H O A. [0:29:08, 0:29:08]: Um [0:29:08, 0:29:11]: It is a community of 105 homes. [0:29:11, 0:29:15]: This storage facility would literally sit [0:29:15, 0:29:16]: Hi at the entrance. [0:29:17, 0:29:21]: behind the people's houses the fence would be here for their house and the [0:29:21, 0:29:25]: storage unit would literally be up against their fence. [0:29:25, 0:29:27]: There everyone in our [0:29:27, 0:29:32]: HOA is against this because of the impact that it would have on our [0:29:32, 0:29:33]: Home values. [0:29:34, 0:29:36]: Um even people being able to walk. [0:29:37, 0:29:41]: The road is narrow, the road is not made to have that kind of [0:29:41, 0:29:44]: trucks in and out on a constant basis. [0:29:44, 0:29:50]: There's always people walking, jogging, walking their dogs on that street and you would be adding [0:29:50, 0:29:51]: That [0:29:51, 0:29:52]: Um [0:29:52, 0:29:57]: possibility of incidence is there by having storage facility there with [0:29:58, 0:30:01]: the trucks that we know are going to be involved with it. [0:30:02, 0:30:10]: Okay, thank you ma'am. Appreciate it. She she needs your she needs your name, I believe. Okay, back to the middle. Anybody else in the middle that is against [0:30:11, 0:30:14]: This storage facility from a different HOA that has not already spoken. [0:30:15, 0:30:18]: If not, I'm gonna go all the way to my right. Anybody over here? [0:30:18, 0:30:19]: Against [0:30:19, 0:30:23]: The storage unit for an HOA that has not already spoken. [0:30:24, 0:30:30]: See now, so that means there's no more studies right in between. [0:30:31, 0:30:41]: Sir, but they're not they're are they represented here tonight? That's what I would say. Okay, that's all right. That's fine, sir. No problem. We're good. We're good. On that note, I'm gonna close out the public hearing. [0:30:42, 0:30:46]: Okay, now on that note I close up the public hearing. So I'm looking for the council. [0:30:46, 0:30:48]: For a motion. [0:30:48, 0:30:49]: [1849.6, 1853.2]: I'd like to make a motion to deny the request uh that has been submitted. [0:30:53, 0:30:56]: Okay, there's second over here. Okay, now is there any further discussion on that? [0:30:58, 0:30:59]: No further discussion. [0:30:59, 0:31:01]: All in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:31:01, 0:31:02]: So you know this. [0:31:02, 0:31:05]: Okay, there we have the decision. Okay, we'll move on to the next subject. [0:31:07, 0:31:12]: Council consideration to approve the use of Merle Manor's Conference Center for a training event. Ms. Renee Wheeler, please. [0:31:14, 0:31:14]: Yeah. [0:31:15, 0:31:15]: Yeah. [0:31:25, 0:31:27]: Please don't leave. [0:31:28, 0:31:30]: Okay. Um [0:31:32, 0:31:34]: Carl Vinson. [0:31:35, 0:31:37]: Carl Vins and [0:31:39, 0:31:40]: Go ahe go ahead, Renee. [0:31:40, 0:31:41]: Okay. [0:31:41, 0:31:45]: Um I've come before you t this evening to talk about [0:31:45, 0:31:49]: The use of the using the Carl uh the Merle Manders for a training event. [0:31:50, 0:31:53]: uh Carl Vinson Institute um approached the city. [0:31:54, 0:31:56]: uh some time ago to hold [0:31:56, 0:31:59]: to host the succeeding as a supervisor. [0:31:59, 0:32:01]: or training for a number of [0:32:01, 0:32:03]: cities um [0:32:03, 0:32:05]: Um in the area. [0:32:05, 0:32:07]: The training um [0:32:08, 0:32:12]: was to take w will take place October third and fourth, the sixteenth and seventeenth. [0:32:12, 0:32:15]: And October twenty fifth it's five modules. [0:32:16, 0:32:18]: We have about three or four cities. [0:32:18, 0:32:22]: with their employees including about eleven of our own employees. [0:32:22, 0:32:24]: that are attending the training. [0:32:25, 0:32:27]: Um so I'm asking for [0:32:28, 0:32:28]: Um [0:32:30, 0:32:32]: retroactive and um [0:32:33, 0:32:35]: the f continued use of the Merl Manders to contun [0:32:35, 0:32:40]: hold this training. Okay, great. Thank you. Any questions for uh Renee, Council? [0:32:40, 0:32:41]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. [0:32:41, 0:32:45]: This training is it something that GMA charges the s the [0:32:48, 0:32:49]: The staff of the attendees for [0:32:49, 0:32:50]: Are they charging them? [0:32:51, 0:32:54]: Carl Vincent is charging for this uh staff to attend. [0:32:54, 0:32:55]: The training. [0:32:57, 0:32:59]: Okay. [0:32:59, 0:33:03]: Carl Vinson, it's it's through the Carl Vinson Institute of UGA. [0:33:04, 0:33:06]: And we're hosting the training. [0:33:07, 0:33:10]: for cities and uh for a number of other cities. [0:33:10, 0:33:21]: and their employees to attend the to attend the training here. And this is also part of GMA or just Carl Vinson Institute? Just Carl Vinson Institute. And so they have a charge but we are giving the building for free? [0:33:22, 0:33:23]: Yes. [0:33:26, 0:33:27]: Okay. What [0:33:27, 0:33:28]: Why? [0:33:28, 0:33:29]: Why? [0:33:30, 0:33:32]: That's a good question. [0:33:33, 0:33:37]: The reason why is that in order to send our employees to this training [0:33:37, 0:33:41]: We would have had to spend an exorbitant amount of money from the city. [0:33:41, 0:33:43]: To send our own employees. [0:33:43, 0:33:46]: to go to the training if it's hosted at another city. [0:33:46, 0:33:47]: So we're saving money. [0:33:48, 0:33:49]: by allowing our eleven [0:33:50, 0:33:52]: employees to attend the training. [0:33:52, 0:33:54]: by hosting it here in our own city. [0:33:55, 0:33:57]: So we're saving money, we'll travel. [0:33:57, 0:33:58]: Per dm. [0:33:59, 0:34:02]: and any type uh for to us to send our employees. [0:34:02, 0:34:04]: to the training at another location. [0:34:04, 0:34:06]: So the city is hosting it. [0:34:06, 0:34:10]: um and having other cities as well as our own employees to attend. [0:34:10, 0:34:11]: So the city is saving money. [0:34:12, 0:34:15]: Does the city have to pay for the classes? The class to attend? [0:34:16, 0:34:17]: We have to pay for the class. [0:34:17, 0:34:19]: Because we did not get the number. [0:34:19, 0:34:23]: We were supposed to have at least twelve people for the class in order to get [0:34:24, 0:34:27]: a free admission, but we don't have that number m of supervisors. [0:34:28, 0:34:31]: or employees that were able all twelve to attend at this time. [0:34:36, 0:34:36]: Yeah. [0:34:36, 0:34:38]: But if you were to pay for this to send them, you'll pay [0:34:39, 0:34:40]: a lot more. [0:34:40, 0:34:41]: Then hosting it. [0:34:42, 0:34:43]: ourselves. [0:34:44, 0:34:45]: to send them to the training. [0:34:47, 0:34:53]: Do you so we have eleven and we need twelve. We need one additional so that we wouldn't have to pay [0:34:53, 0:34:58]: to go to this claim. We would still have to pay. They would only give us one free. [0:34:58, 0:35:00]: attendee to attend the class. [0:35:01, 0:35:04]: Um okay. I [0:35:06, 0:35:17]: I'm I'm trying to figure out do we know the dollar amount difference if the classes w weren't here? I mean I know you said per diem and travel. It's one day course, correct? No, it's a module so five classes. [0:35:18, 0:35:20]: and the student receives a certificate. [0:35:20, 0:35:24]: um from the Carl Vinson Institute for the supervisory training. [0:35:26, 0:35:28]: I don't have any questions anymore. Mr. Robinson, we're here, please. [0:35:29, 0:35:29]: This one does. [0:35:30, 0:35:34]: follow up, you're basically stating that we were saved from the travels. [0:35:35, 0:35:38]: If we do it here locally. Yeah. We would save [0:35:38, 0:35:40]: money for our city. [0:35:40, 0:35:40]: Right. [0:35:41, 0:35:45]: Right, because we would then have to and also our employees will be trained. [0:35:45, 0:35:50]: Um this is something that is being held here in our city just as we do GMA. [0:35:51, 0:35:53]: That we most recently did at the Ted Strickland. [0:35:53, 0:35:57]: They charge um the other cities as well. [0:35:57, 0:35:58]: And we host it here. [0:35:59, 0:36:01]: through GMA and they charged. [0:36:02, 0:36:05]: So again, my question is we have 11 employees. [0:36:06, 0:36:09]: Approximately that the um small cities with their Western. [0:36:10, 0:36:14]: There was no charge. It was a free conference through GMA. [0:36:14, 0:36:18]: Okay. The one we did for the alcohol was filmed. [0:36:21, 0:36:21]: Okay. [0:36:23, 0:36:25]: So again we have eleven employees. [0:36:25, 0:36:29]: that we can say versus sending them somewhere and we can do it here locally. [0:36:30, 0:36:31]: Saving on travel. [0:36:32, 0:36:33]: And hotel, correct? [0:36:34, 0:36:34]: Right. [0:36:35, 0:36:44]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. Just a follow up. We have ten employees of course that are attending the class. We could save by having it here without travel. [0:36:44, 0:36:44]: Hmm. [0:36:45, 0:36:49]: That isn't my concern. I I look at what the cost of the building is here, right? [0:36:50, 0:36:53]: And we still have to pay for classes for the employees. [0:36:54, 0:36:55]: Even though we're [0:36:55, 0:37:00]: donating basically a building and whatever that rental amount is, I would like to know the difference between [0:37:00, 0:37:02]: The rental man of the building. [0:37:03, 0:37:03]: versus [0:37:04, 0:37:05]: What we're paying. [0:37:05, 0:37:11]: basically per dam and for our wha actually what is the dollar amount per class that we have to pay? [0:37:11, 0:37:15]: Did we did we attempt to n negotiate that with them? Shouldn't our [0:37:16, 0:37:21]: Our employees go for free since it's in this building. We're giving them a building, a facility. [0:37:21, 0:37:25]: that they're gonna raise funds from other locations. [0:37:25, 0:37:31]: I I just I don't I think it doesn't make good business sense. I I'm I'm a little confused. [0:37:31, 0:37:34]: It I mean, i of course it would be more [0:37:34, 0:37:37]: if we had to pay for gas and go there. [0:37:38, 0:37:41]: Right? They have five series. If it's not overnight. [0:37:41, 0:37:43]: They're not paying for a hotel. [0:37:44, 0:37:50]: It's it's one day and then they come back, they go back. It's two days, they go ba they come back, they go back for another two days. [0:37:50, 0:37:57]: And they go back. So it's five classes. Okay. And it's one cost for the total modules of the classes. [0:37:58, 0:38:06]: Do you know what that costs? Five twenty five. Five twenty five that we're paying per employee to go to our building. [0:38:06, 0:38:10]: Yes. And w that is to be trained. It's for the training. [0:38:10, 0:38:14]: I understand. And then Merlmanders, we're they're renting out the Merlmanders, correct? [0:38:15, 0:38:15]: Right. [0:38:15, 0:38:16]: The training room. [0:38:17, 0:38:19]: There's one downstairs training room. [0:38:22, 0:38:28]: Yes, yes sir. Uh okay, yes, go right ahead, sir. Uh Mrs. Wheeler, just one question. If [0:38:28, 0:38:30]: GMA chose to [0:38:31, 0:38:32]: take this training elsewhere. [0:38:36, 0:38:36]: Well [0:38:36, 0:38:38]: Carl Benson. [0:38:38, 0:38:40]: uh would they have to pay. [0:38:41, 0:38:44]: It would have to pay for the class. No, no. [0:38:44, 0:38:48]: Yeah, the Carl Vincent Institute chose to take this training elsewhere. [0:38:49, 0:38:51]: Would they have to pay for that facility? [0:38:53, 0:38:54]: Um I'm not sure. [0:38:54, 0:39:02]: More than likely they would. They might, or they the city might offer it to them free because they're able to send their students. I mean their employees. [0:39:06, 0:39:15]: Yes. How many total number of attendees are we talking about? How many people are we talking about people how many people are they bringing in [0:39:15, 0:39:21]: Are they bringing in a hundred people? Are they bringing in fifty people? How many are they bringing in total class uh [0:39:21, 0:39:22]: Can is twenty. [0:39:24, 0:39:27]: That twenty twenty people are the the maximum number. [0:39:27, 0:39:29]: That Mr. Um [0:39:30, 0:39:32]: The gentleman told me that he needed to attend the class. [0:39:32, 0:39:35]: But he was bringing people in, people from other cities. [0:39:35, 0:39:37]: were also attending the class. [0:39:37, 0:39:43]: So So we weren't the only city sending employees from the So we got eleven eleven out of the twenty. [0:39:43, 0:39:44]: Yes. [0:39:44, 0:39:48]: So there's d I just wanted to make sure we understand. There's eleven out of the twenty. There's not [0:39:49, 0:39:52]: Uh a total anything more than that. So we got over half. [0:39:52, 0:39:55]: Of the attendees coming to the case. Roughly, yes. [0:39:55, 0:39:59]: And t br so the public understands the advantage of what is going on. [0:40:00, 0:40:03]: What exactly are i the who is the staff going and then [0:40:03, 0:40:08]: what are they gaining uh post class? What are they gaining in terms of [0:40:08, 0:40:12]: they will be more equipped in what areas. We're benefiting them how. Okay. [0:40:13, 0:40:14]: The majority of the clo uhs [0:40:14, 0:40:17]: staff that are attending are from public works. [0:40:17, 0:40:21]: Mm. Some of them are lead workers and some of them are supervising people and [0:40:21, 0:40:23]: Wa wastewater and the water department. [0:40:24, 0:40:26]: And we sent some of our potential. [0:40:26, 0:40:27]: Um [0:40:28, 0:40:31]: employees who have supervisory ability. [0:40:31, 0:40:32]: that we wanted to attain. [0:40:33, 0:40:38]: And basically what they will gain in this training is communicating with employees. [0:40:39, 0:40:41]: how to lead the work team. [0:40:42, 0:40:44]: How to build trust and respect. [0:40:45, 0:40:47]: Planning and delegating. [0:40:47, 0:40:50]: motivation, performance evaluation. [0:40:50, 0:40:51]: And coaching. [0:40:51, 0:40:54]: developing and maintaining discipline. [0:40:55, 0:40:56]: and handling conflict. [0:40:57, 0:40:59]: And the many jobs of a supervisor. [0:41:00, 0:41:03]: A lot of these uh employees have not any had any formal [0:41:04, 0:41:06]: um supervisory training in the past. [0:41:06, 0:41:09]: Some of them have not been afforded the opportunity. [0:41:09, 0:41:11]: to attend a class like this in the past. [0:41:12, 0:41:15]: So we are giving them this opportunity [0:41:15, 0:41:17]: to gain these skill sets. [0:41:18, 0:41:18]: that [0:41:18, 0:41:21]: unless they uh you know uh pay for a class. [0:41:22, 0:41:25]: on their own to get supervisory training or go to a uh [0:41:25, 0:41:27]: trade school or back to college. [0:41:28, 0:41:30]: We're providing this information for them. [0:41:31, 0:41:35]: so that they can be um better employees and hopefully better supervisors. [0:41:35, 0:41:37]: for the ones that are supervisors now. [0:41:37, 0:41:56]: And this training is ongoing. So in addition to these five modules, there are other modules that they will be able to go to other'cause I've I've often been interested in stuff like customer service and how they interact with the public because they are representing us. Is it is there a component of that involved in this at all? [0:41:57, 0:42:00]: Probably not in this one, but I know we are planning to have [0:42:01, 0:42:02]: In January. [0:42:02, 0:42:03]: Um course uh [0:42:04, 0:42:06]: for our staff development internally. [0:42:06, 0:42:09]: We're bringing that m that peace into it. [0:42:11, 0:42:19]: Okay, thank you. That's good. No, let's go ahead and um move forward with this. Any other questions? One last go right please. [0:42:19, 0:42:21]: Mrs. Will, in your opinion [0:42:21, 0:42:22]: Um [0:42:22, 0:42:24]: It's for um [0:42:24, 0:42:26]: future relationship. [0:42:26, 0:42:30]: W what do you see the advantage for the city of Stockbridge? [0:42:30, 0:42:31]: In [0:42:31, 0:42:34]: um creating this type of relationship. [0:42:35, 0:42:37]: with GMA or the Car Vince Institute. [0:42:38, 0:42:40]: What do you see the future? [0:42:40, 0:42:46]: benefit for the city of Stockford, just in your opinion. Well one of the things is that in hosting something like this you have something [0:42:46, 0:42:48]: In the south region, I mean [0:42:48, 0:42:50]: South of Atlanta. [0:42:50, 0:42:54]: that your other cities that can attend that don't have to go all the way to Atlanta. [0:42:54, 0:42:57]: or go northbound to attend [0:42:57, 0:42:59]: when Carl Vinson offers these classes. [0:42:59, 0:43:01]: Normally it's south of Macon. [0:43:02, 0:43:04]: We have ne we have not had anything like this in this. [0:43:05, 0:43:06]: Southern Crescent area. [0:43:06, 0:43:10]: For employees to attend, so you have people from South Fulton. [0:43:10, 0:43:12]: From Hapeville, from Riverdale. [0:43:12, 0:43:14]: Фром Унион Сти, фомтон. [0:43:14, 0:43:15]: McDonough [0:43:15, 0:43:19]: Um I sent out to a host of my HR colleagues. [0:43:19, 0:43:23]: So to invite their employees to come in and they were very much interested. [0:43:24, 0:43:26]: and us hosting it, you know, they seem to be very interested. [0:43:27, 0:43:28]: in having it here. [0:43:28, 0:43:30]: 'Cause the travel time even for them. [0:43:30, 0:43:32]: is is would be negligible. [0:43:33, 0:43:38]: in order to send somebody to the north end of the of the county to attend a class like this. [0:43:39, 0:43:39]: One one second. [0:43:40, 0:43:47]: Hey, Mr. Aaron, I just saw you move up. Is this something that since these are most of your employees, something that you want to add to so the council knows her? [0:43:47, 0:43:53]: The only thing I wanted to add is at a previous place of employment, we we did this also. [0:43:54, 0:44:01]: Because a lot of people you have, you put in leadership roles, but nobody equips them with the knowledge and information they need to be successful. [0:44:01, 0:44:05]: Myself when I first I went from being responsible for myself [0:44:05, 0:44:09]: The two weeks later I got thirty people. I'm trying to supervise and [0:44:10, 0:44:12]: you know, schedule things for and [0:44:12, 0:44:16]: get them equipped to do their jobs and this provides people with leadership. [0:44:16, 0:44:18]: skills that they wouldn't acquire cause [0:44:18, 0:44:19]: It's tough from [0:44:20, 0:44:23]: Go on say Friday, you're one of the guys, you get promoted. [0:44:23, 0:44:26]: Monday you come, you're the guy. [0:44:26, 0:44:27]: And nobody [0:44:27, 0:44:29]: provides training [0:44:29, 0:44:32]: Everybody think it's just a boss and telling people what to do. [0:44:32, 0:44:36]: And one of the things Carl Vincent looks for people to host is because [0:44:36, 0:44:39]: A lot of cities don't have money dedicated for training. [0:44:40, 0:44:44]: To allow to allow people to stay overnight, to pay per diem and stuff like that. [0:44:44, 0:44:47]: But they can drive, you know, back and forth. [0:44:47, 0:44:52]: on a daily basis and and it saves them money and allows them to send people to training. [0:44:52, 0:44:55]: And that's one of the reasons why they look for people to [0:44:55, 0:44:59]: host so they can get municipalities and other governments in that area. [0:45:00, 0:45:01]: be able to send their people. [0:45:01, 0:45:07]: But like I say, it's it's just tough when you make that jump from being a regular employee to a supervisor because [0:45:08, 0:45:10]: Nobody tells you how to be a supervisor or a leader. [0:45:11, 0:45:16]: And a lot of times you're chosen because you've been there a long time or somebody sees something in you but [0:45:16, 0:45:19]: If you don't have the right tools and you're not equipped. [0:45:19, 0:45:21]: it's gonna be hard for that person to succeed. [0:45:22, 0:45:22]: Because [0:45:23, 0:45:29]: Like I say, going from just being responsible for yourself, you know how you work, you know you'll get things done, but [0:45:29, 0:45:32]: Now you got three or four other people you got to schedule for and [0:45:33, 0:45:39]: get supplies and all of that. So it teaches them those leadership skills they need to be successful and not just [0:45:39, 0:45:42]: Hey, I'm telling people what to do. It's more to it than that. [0:45:42, 0:45:48]: And so like I said, when I did it previously in Paired, we hosted'cause you can have people come, they're gonna eat in your city. [0:45:48, 0:45:52]: they might see the Merl Manders and say, hey, I didn't know this facility was there. [0:45:52, 0:45:56]: If they have an event, they wanna rent it, but it's just a way of trying to get [0:45:56, 0:46:02]: a a centralized location where other people that can come that can't afford to stay [0:46:02, 0:46:05]: 'Cause you figure if you go two days, you're really gonna stay [0:46:06, 0:46:10]: two days, possibly three, you know, travel'cause it's gonna be in Athens or somewhere else. [0:46:11, 0:46:14]: And it just was a way to get people there and you not spend them [0:46:15, 0:46:18]: an absorbent amount of money sending ten people. [0:46:19, 0:46:20]: to different locations. [0:46:20, 0:46:23]: All right, Mr. Aaron, stand by please. Mr. Blount, go ahead. [0:46:24, 0:46:25]: Yeah, I I um uh [0:46:25, 0:46:29]: Listen to staff and if you all think this is uh needed and have done the numbers. [0:46:30, 0:46:32]: I I don't know if I haven't ran any numbers on it. [0:46:33, 0:46:36]: Um, h how many hours a day is is is the training? [0:46:36, 0:46:42]: It's eight hours. It's from 830 to 430. Is there any other provisions we're making besides the facility? [0:46:42, 0:46:43]: Excuse me? [0:46:44, 0:46:50]: Anything else we're facilitating beside the facility? No. Lunch? Anything else? Nothing? And lunches on their own. [0:46:52, 0:46:57]: If uh for for us me, if you all said and it's a classroom downstairs, if you all said that [0:46:57, 0:47:00]: And v I'm trusting that you all read the numbers and [0:47:00, 0:47:01]: Mr. Daisy, I'm [0:47:01, 0:47:03]: If they go to the class, I guess we'll see [0:47:04, 0:47:06]: Better performances and uh so hey. [0:47:07, 0:47:07]: I'm all right with [0:47:08, 0:47:16]: Yeah, and I did want to address one other thing real quick and and the questions that you raised are are obviously very important and legitimate questions and the question of cost came up. [0:47:18, 0:47:22]: If this were training that were a way somewhere where [0:47:22, 0:47:24]: where staff members had to travel. [0:47:25, 0:47:28]: uh and stay overnight and have per diem. [0:47:28, 0:47:32]: Once you take a look at those costs for the number of employees who are [0:47:32, 0:47:33]: Uh [0:47:33, 0:47:35]: going to be processed through this training. [0:47:35, 0:47:39]: versus the building costs, you're still looking at saving probably in the neighborhood. [0:47:40, 0:47:40]: Oh. [0:47:41, 0:47:46]: you know, four thousand or so dollars, four thousand plus dollars based on per diem train um per diem [0:47:46, 0:47:50]: lodging and things of that nature. So there is an overall cost savings. [0:47:50, 0:47:55]: uh to us ultimately. We did talk to or have some conversations with Carl Vinson about providing us with [0:47:56, 0:47:58]: uh a certain number of uh [0:47:58, 0:47:59]: [2879.7, 2882.0]: um trainings for employees. [0:48:02, 0:48:07]: And as Renee mentioned they they had a certain threshold that would have to be met. But overall [0:48:07, 0:48:10]: there would be cost savings by hosting this type of training here. [0:48:11, 0:48:12]: Okay. [0:48:12, 0:48:13]: Um [0:48:13, 0:48:14]: Any other questions from the council? [0:48:16, 0:48:18]: Uh I'm ready to make the motion. [0:48:18, 0:48:20]: And there's no other questions. [0:48:20, 0:48:21]: I just [0:48:21, 0:48:24]: I just have one climate in in the future and [0:48:25, 0:48:29]: I totally see it now after the numbers of five sessions. [0:48:29, 0:48:31]: Right, you got ten people. [0:48:31, 0:48:34]: Two ho Nights Hotel, two fifty, that's twenty five hundred. [0:48:34, 0:48:36]: Five sessions, twenty five hundred times five. [0:48:36, 0:48:38]: In the future if we could have [0:48:39, 0:48:42]: that laid out for us so we know that we are not paying [0:48:42, 0:48:57]: For something. That would be awesome. That that's my biggest concern. You are correct in saying that. We need to we need to lay it out more clearly for you and we'll do that in the future. The one thing I did want to mention on the resolution I think it had December mentioned. I think it's October we're looking at. [0:48:57, 0:48:58]: If I'm looking at that right. [0:49:01, 0:49:05]: That's a good point. I have October 23rd. [0:49:05, 0:49:07]: I have a December on mine though. Okay. [0:49:08, 0:49:09]: The twenty fifth. [0:49:10, 0:49:16]: All right, so if this is approved, I just needed uh the correct dates on it before I sign it. That's all I've done. October dates. Okay. [0:49:16, 0:49:17]: For the month of October. [0:49:17, 0:49:18]: All right. [0:49:18, 0:49:20]: Council, any more questions or concerns? [0:49:20, 0:49:24]: Yeah, before I make the motion, Mayor, I just want to say to Ms. Wheeler that [0:49:24, 0:49:28]: When I saw this, I did have the conversation with her beforehand. [0:49:28, 0:49:34]: Um to find out all the details um in the numbers and who are we going. So I appreciate her taking the time. [0:49:34, 0:49:35]: To speak with me. [0:49:35, 0:49:40]: Um and Mayor, and I would like to motion make a motion to approve the use of the Merrill Mander Center. [0:49:40, 0:49:42]: um for conference training events. [0:49:43, 0:49:43]: Second. [0:49:44, 0:49:45]: Okay, any further discussion? [0:49:46, 0:49:47]: All favor please indicate. [0:49:48, 0:49:49]: Okay, great, fantastic. [0:49:49, 0:49:50]: No, this isn't. [0:49:50, 0:49:51]: All right. [0:49:51, 0:49:56]: Uh council consideration to approve project to remove install playground equipment. [0:49:56, 0:49:59]: at Memorial Park and Gardner Parks. [0:50:00, 0:50:11]: Reference ITB number one eight ITB O five O four one eight dash D D R an amount of one hundred and fifty one thousand doll one hundred and fifty one thousand three hundred uh excuse me. [0:50:11, 0:50:13]: $151,038. [0:50:14, 0:50:16]: Splot five. Let's scream me, splot four. [0:50:16, 0:50:17]: Presented by Mr. Riley. [0:50:18, 0:50:23]: Uh yes. Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor and members of the Council. I have before you [0:50:24, 0:50:28]: Uh the um removal and installation playground equipment with [0:50:28, 0:50:29]: Playworld preferred. [0:50:30, 0:50:39]: The amount is$151,038 and I would like to add a contingency of$13,962. [0:50:40, 0:50:44]: so that this area is more for your destination area. [0:50:44, 0:50:46]: We have like a little um [0:50:46, 0:50:51]: patio area that needs like some exercise equipment and [0:50:51, 0:50:55]: some cycling and some things that will bring people to this area. [0:50:56, 0:51:02]: just to make it more of an attraction like the other uh spaces that we have available. [0:51:02, 0:51:03]: at memorial. So [0:51:04, 0:51:11]: That the we're gonna bring before Mr. Knighton the actual equipment that will be installed. [0:51:11, 0:51:18]: So this is just a contingency to actually ask for a total amount of$165,000. [0:51:19, 0:51:20]: Okay, thank you. [0:51:20, 0:51:22]: Uh council, any questions, concerns? [0:51:22, 0:51:27]: Yes. Go right after me. I think it would be most helpful if we had something to look at. [0:51:28, 0:51:28]: In order to [0:51:29, 0:51:31]: uh you know, the evaluate [0:51:31, 0:51:34]: Uh the request that you have made, obviously the [0:51:34, 0:51:38]: the equipment over at the trail has been a phenomenal success so [0:51:38, 0:51:45]: I'm all for doing that. But and then the uh playground equipment that we added over at Clark Park, outstanding. [0:51:46, 0:51:49]: We upgraded it, this council did, collectively decided to get [0:51:50, 0:51:52]: Uh from the original install. [0:51:52, 0:51:54]: So when will we be able to see [0:51:54, 0:51:57]: what it is that it's going to look like so we can [0:51:57, 0:52:01]: uh make a decision on o on the investment that we're going to [0:52:02, 0:52:03]: uh be putting in this area. [0:52:03, 0:52:05]: Uh one week from today. [0:52:07, 0:52:08]: Well we're today is what the incident what [0:52:09, 0:52:10]: For the [0:52:10, 0:52:12]: Go ahead. One week from today is what now? [0:52:12, 0:52:14]: It's the fifteenth of October. [0:52:14, 0:52:15]: Okay. [0:52:16, 0:52:20]: Yes. I will have the information to Mr. Knighton. Mr. Knighton will disseminate it. [0:52:20, 0:52:23]: that information to the mayor and council. [0:52:23, 0:52:32]: And this is the pictures and reference to what he's doing. Additional information as well as costs. [0:52:32, 0:52:32]: Sure. [0:52:33, 0:52:34]: I'm sorry, go ahead. [0:52:34, 0:52:39]: It so I mean be that being the case, is this a time sensitive item? [0:52:39, 0:52:45]: Well we might be able to delay it until we did get that information. Is there some reason that it needs to go out like now or? [0:52:46, 0:52:55]: Would the delay hold up something? Well, it's more about uh trying to make sure that we're doing it in a timely manner since we have the heat. [0:52:55, 0:53:02]: And we wanna make sure that we're doing all of the construction because we are if we're moving an existing [0:53:02, 0:53:05]: playground from the back of uh Cochrane Park. [0:53:06, 0:53:08]: Not Cochrane, uh Garner Park. [0:53:08, 0:53:09]: To the forefront. [0:53:10, 0:53:15]: So we're doing a lot of digging up the fencing, the actual [0:53:15, 0:53:18]: Uh not fencing but the swing set. [0:53:18, 0:53:25]: and moving that equipment from the back of uh gardener part to the front, as well as doing pouring place. [0:53:25, 0:53:30]: So while we're having good weather and everything else, we're trying to make sure that [0:53:30, 0:53:32]: There are no weather delays, there are no [0:53:33, 0:53:34]: type of impending uh [0:53:35, 0:53:38]: things that will delay the project anymore. [0:53:38, 0:53:42]: I think we can pretty much go ahead and consent to give you consensus to go ahead and start. [0:53:43, 0:53:46]: the the work for preparation until we get to [0:53:46, 0:53:49]: actually see what it is that we're going to be paying for. [0:53:49, 0:53:57]: if that wouldn't uh be a problem. I think we we would both uh all of us I would think uh might be for you being able to [0:53:57, 0:53:59]: uh move forward with [0:53:59, 0:54:02]: getting some excavation work done or whatever. [0:54:02, 0:54:14]: I'm just wanting to be able to see what it is that we paying for personally. Well on that note that what you're suggesting is something that the council need to discuss. And we uh first first of all make sure we got everything out from the rest of the council and see what the desires are. [0:54:14, 0:54:15]: This aspect. [0:54:15, 0:54:18]: Um, so we're not sure if we're gonna follow that line of logic just yet. [0:54:19, 0:54:21]: All right, anybody any comments on this end? Yeah. Yeah, go right here, sir. [0:54:22, 0:54:23]: This amount um [0:54:24, 0:54:26]: Because is now is the contingency amount [0:54:27, 0:54:28]: To be added to the fifty one. [0:54:29, 0:54:30]: Yes. One fifty one? [0:54:31, 0:54:32]: Which brings it out to one eighty three. [0:54:33, 0:54:34]: Hundred eighty three thousand total. [0:54:35, 0:54:37]: Uh a hundred and sixty five thousand. [0:54:38, 0:54:45]: The thirteen nine sixty two is the added to the one fifty one thirty eight. Okay, I thought you said thirty one nine sixty two. [0:54:45, 0:54:46]: You said thirteen. [0:54:46, 0:54:47]: Thirteen. [0:54:47, 0:54:50]: thirteen thousand nine hundred and sixty two dollars. [0:54:51, 0:54:55]: to make it a total of uh a hundred and sixty five thousand dollars. [0:54:56, 0:55:01]: So the equipment that we have for that so moving that equipment to another area and then [0:55:01, 0:55:03]: We have other equipment to to put in there also. [0:55:04, 0:55:07]: Following with the what what we're moving or just just just uh [0:55:07, 0:55:08]: Removing [0:55:09, 0:55:14]: We have new equipment that's actually the installation of everything and the removal. [0:55:14, 0:55:14]: Yes. [0:55:15, 0:55:28]: Okay and but we have another additional spot that's at Gardner that's b like a blank canvas. Right. And what we want to do is modify that little bl that little uh spot with like a extra uh like a [0:55:28, 0:55:29]: Uh [0:55:29, 0:55:33]: uh extracurricular uh workout activity area. [0:55:34, 0:55:34]: Okay. [0:55:35, 0:55:37]: The reason I'm asking because I'm looking at the contingency amount. [0:55:38, 0:55:40]: I think I I talked to Mr. Knighton because we [0:55:40, 0:55:41]: About the um [0:55:42, 0:55:45]: The idea with the I thought that w when we started doing it we would move [0:55:46, 0:55:47]: with the striving for the uh [0:55:47, 0:55:49]: Pickle court with the tennis court. [0:55:50, 0:55:51]: Took a ball. [0:55:51, 0:55:53]: I don't know if that's been dis has that been discussed. [0:55:54, 0:55:54]: Yeah. [0:56:01, 0:56:01]: Okay. [0:56:02, 0:56:03]: Well I [0:56:03, 0:56:05]: Once again I I I um [0:56:05, 0:56:09]: with staff saying and everybody saying that this is what we need to make it happen. [0:56:09, 0:56:10]: I'm gonna approve we're making it happen. [0:56:11, 0:56:13]: Any other comments? [0:56:13, 0:56:14]: Ms. Thomas, no? [0:56:15, 0:56:15]: Okay. [0:56:16, 0:56:17]: Anymore comments on this end. [0:56:18, 0:56:23]: Okay, make sure I understand the thirteen thousand dollars contingency, this is a contingency of exactly what, the fact that you would go [0:56:24, 0:56:27]: over and above what the initial amount would be if some ran into something [0:56:28, 0:56:32]: extra or something along those lines. Yes. It's additional space that's added. [0:56:32, 0:56:37]: over to the side that we have a blank canvas where we don't have any type of [0:56:37, 0:56:39]: W any type of uh [0:56:39, 0:56:48]: go to activities or anything that will bring people to this park. And so after speaking to a couple of c um citizens, they [0:56:48, 0:56:53]: voice their opinion of trying to get something like a workout like at Reeves Creek. [0:56:53, 0:56:57]: trying to get some additional equipment. So while we are there and we're doing [0:56:58, 0:57:01]: the work. That's why I'm asking for the contingency. [0:57:01, 0:57:05]: It's not that we're going to spend the whole thirteen thousand nine hundred and sixty-two. [0:57:06, 0:57:09]: dollars. It's just so that we can get additional equipment. [0:57:09, 0:57:13]: And so that they can have another surface or another area. [0:57:13, 0:57:17]: to do additional workouts instead of always going to reuse creep. [0:57:18, 0:57:23]: Okay. So I guess what's what's up here is that whether or not we want to approve this tonight without seeing an actual visual [0:57:24, 0:57:29]: of what this will all look like, which you said that you'll be able to give us by the fifteenth of October. [0:57:29, 0:57:33]: In this aspect. So if I understand. Okay. Now on that note. [0:57:33, 0:57:34]: Sir, did you have anything else you wanted to add? [0:57:35, 0:57:36]: You look uh like you want to say something here. [0:57:41, 0:57:42]: Yes, sir. Go right ahead. [0:57:50, 0:57:55]: It's like that X will be a parallel X. [0:57:57, 0:58:00]: What [0:58:02, 0:58:04]: Okay. All right. Got that. [0:58:05, 0:58:08]: Council heard heard that comment, Council? Okay, got it. [0:58:08, 0:58:10]: You're talking about go w what we already have here? [0:58:11, 0:58:15]: I just want to motion that we the that we approve the uh [0:58:16, 0:58:21]: The project renovation to remove and install the playground equipment from Orion and Gardner Park. For what amount? [0:58:22, 0:58:24]: For the 151 with the$13,000 contingency. [0:58:25, 0:58:29]: 13,962. We don't want that. No, no. We're striking it. [0:58:30, 0:58:30]: Yeah. [0:58:33, 0:58:35]: You don't want any contingencies? Okay. [0:58:35, 0:58:36]: Well one fifty one thirty eight. [0:58:37, 0:58:39]: Okay, mo pre- restate the motion, please. [0:58:39, 0:58:44]: A motion that we approve the removing and insulation at the uh Gardner Park in uh [0:58:44, 0:58:47]: Memorial Park for the total of one thousand fifty one [0:58:47, 0:58:50]: One hundred fifty one thousand thirty eight dollars. Okay, is there a second plus five. Four. [0:58:51, 0:58:53]: The second down here. Now for the discussion. [0:58:53, 0:58:59]: Yes. I'm not comfortable. Now I know you know, I I'm for everything that we're trying to do here. [0:58:59, 0:59:02]: I'm definitely for it. I would be for approving it but [0:59:03, 0:59:08]: I'm not really comfortable spending a hundred and fifty thousand dollars on something that I have not seen. [0:59:08, 0:59:09]: Um [0:59:09, 0:59:10]: We're voting on [0:59:10, 0:59:15]: Uh, I don't understand what it is that we can't so we're starting on the excavation. [0:59:16, 0:59:20]: We can go ahead and consent to start on the excavation so we move forward with it. [0:59:20, 0:59:22]: And then in fifteen days we can actually see [0:59:23, 0:59:30]: And then we can decide if we want pickleball or we can decide on what equipment that we are going to be presented with. [0:59:30, 0:59:32]: Today we're giving a blank check. [0:59:33, 0:59:33]: Oh [0:59:33, 0:59:40]: what it is that we're going to do in terms of equipment because we're proving equipment that we have not seen. [0:59:41, 0:59:43]: All right, any other comments? Go right here, sir. [0:59:43, 0:59:44]: Um [0:59:46, 0:59:47]: When I made the motion [0:59:48, 0:59:51]: And what's been stated by city management and stated by [0:59:51, 0:59:53]: Our procurement, this is not a blank check. [0:59:53, 0:59:57]: This is the solicitation that we solicited for it. We did we did put a RFP out, right? [0:59:57, 1:00:00]: And this is the lowest bid for what we've been talking about in this city. [1:00:01, 1:00:04]: moving forward with projects that we need to move forward with. And one of those projects is [1:00:05, 1:00:06]: Making our parks better. [1:00:06, 1:00:09]: And so this is not writing a blank check, this is going to the lowest bidder. [1:00:10, 1:00:11]: For the uh for the uh [1:00:11, 1:00:13]: amounts that we need done. So [1:00:13, 1:00:16]: I just want to get that clear. The city is not writing a blank check. [1:00:16, 1:00:18]: Uh and so [1:00:18, 1:00:30]: The motions on the floor has been seconded. We had a comment. Okay. Yes. No, hold on. You had two already, sir. You already had two. I just had one. I had one. One. On the discussion of only had one. Just make one point. [1:00:30, 1:00:32]: All right, go ahead. Excuse me, go ahead. [1:00:32, 1:00:52]: So uh again I'm going to say we're bidding on this, you putting out a RFP. What are you putting out the RFP for if we can't see it? If you're putting out a RFP for a specific amount for this particular equipment, there's no where's the list of this equipment or where is the parts that compare [1:00:52, 1:01:02]: pose the hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Maybe the city manager can answer that or somebody if we're putting out a specific bid for a hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [1:01:02, 1:01:05]: What is a piece of equipment? Where is the list? [1:01:05, 1:01:06]: Of this equipment. [1:01:08, 1:01:12]: Can somebody tell me what a list is of the equipment that we spending$150,000 on? [1:01:16, 1:01:29]: I understand it would be similar to what's been done most part of the library pipeline closer to our part on similar pipeline. What would be placed on the particular way? [1:01:30, 1:01:44]: Oh Temp, please. I have to agree with Councilman Alexander in regards to I wanna know what type of equipment we're w we plan on having. Um I don't know, Mr. Aaron, maybe you could [1:01:44, 1:01:48]: enlighten me a little bit about what equipment we p I I just want to know [1:01:48, 1:01:50]: Are we getting new swings? Are we getting [1:01:51, 1:01:54]: um new exercise equipment. Fine. And and also [1:01:55, 1:02:05]: I think we should have exercise equipment at every park. And we've mentioned that before. So kind of just at least tell me what equipment we're getting. I'll be a little bit more relaxed in that. [1:02:10, 1:02:17]: Well the the majority of it involves relocating certain playground equipment'cause like at Gardner Park you got some playground equipment in the floodplain. [1:02:18, 1:02:23]: So we're moving some playground equipment and also adding the pour in place so we get rid of the [1:02:24, 1:02:28]: the mulch and other things that we had at the other parts. It'll be similar to [1:02:28, 1:02:29]: We moved. [1:02:29, 1:02:35]: playground equipment and put the poor in place like we do at Clark Park. It's not gonna be anything as fancy or absorptive. [1:02:36, 1:02:42]: as the one at Clark Park, but we're moving playground equipment to a centralized area and you'll have poor in place so is [1:02:42, 1:02:44]: accessible to at any part. [1:02:44, 1:02:45]: Yeah, but [1:02:46, 1:02:51]: special needs child when any part they would be able to use the equipment because of that pour in place. [1:02:52, 1:02:52]: And uh [1:02:52, 1:02:57]: And the changes that we'll make to that equipment to make it more user friendly for [1:02:57, 1:02:59]: for special needs children. [1:02:59, 1:03:06]: So is it just the pour and play that we're putting down or are we getting new It would be some additional playground equipment as well. [1:03:06, 1:03:07]: And [1:03:07, 1:03:14]: I guess Mr. Riley can get you what was bidded out, the equipment and things of that nature so you'll have a picture of it. [1:03:15, 1:03:15]: Okay. [1:03:17, 1:03:20]: Mr. Go ahead, Mr. Thomas. Um I was at Memorial Park [1:03:21, 1:03:23]: This past Saturday. [1:03:24, 1:03:26]: uh with the family and I did notice [1:03:27, 1:03:27]: uh [1:03:28, 1:03:31]: At one of the play areas where the [1:03:31, 1:03:32]: Swings are [1:03:33, 1:03:34]: Um [1:03:35, 1:03:37]: There was no rubberized surface. [1:03:38, 1:03:40]: I saw a lot of kids actually falling. [1:03:40, 1:03:41]: I'm assuming [1:03:42, 1:03:44]: That in this initiative [1:03:44, 1:03:47]: that surface would change over to [1:03:48, 1:03:50]: The rubberized [1:03:50, 1:03:52]: surface as the other [1:03:53, 1:03:54]: playground is at memorial. [1:03:55, 1:03:56]: So with that [1:03:56, 1:03:58]: Is that it that's also in the plan? Yes. [1:03:58, 1:04:02]: And and that's this is what I I sort of understand even though [1:04:03, 1:04:05]: As counsel said, we don't see it. [1:04:05, 1:04:09]: But I I do sort of understand that simply because when I was at Memorial this past [1:04:10, 1:04:12]: Saturday I really felt that [1:04:12, 1:04:14]: That surface needed to change. [1:04:14, 1:04:18]: Because there were a number of kids falling, even though I think it's the um [1:04:19, 1:04:20]: The mulch now. [1:04:20, 1:04:23]: But I did notice a lot of kids were just [1:04:23, 1:04:26]: And I was really afraid for a lot of those kids there. [1:04:26, 1:04:27]: Because of that surface. [1:04:28, 1:04:30]: So I do sort of understand that but [1:04:30, 1:04:32]: I I just think um [1:04:32, 1:04:34]: The council really have a valid point. [1:04:34, 1:04:35]: Um [1:04:35, 1:04:36]: You know [1:04:36, 1:04:38]: you know, we would want to see it. But I do understand [1:04:39, 1:04:40]: Especially at Memorial Park. I can't [1:04:41, 1:04:45]: visualized it in another park, but I did see the need at Memorial Park this Saturday. [1:04:46, 1:04:47]: All right. [1:04:47, 1:04:49]: Any any other comments? [1:04:50, 1:04:52]: Alright, so there's a motion on the floor. [1:04:52, 1:04:53]: To uh [1:04:53, 1:04:56]: to approve this amount of one hundred fifty one [1:04:56, 1:04:57]: Thirty eight. [1:04:58, 1:05:00]: hundred fifty one thousand thirty eight dollars. [1:05:00, 1:05:02]: No other further discussion, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [1:05:06, 1:05:07]: Okay, all post. [1:05:08, 1:05:17]: I I want I just wanted the table. Well until we got the equipment description. We gotta we gotta mo we got a mo we got a motion on the floor and it's been probably seconded. [1:05:17, 1:05:21]: So all in one second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:05:22, 1:05:22]: Two? [1:05:23, 1:05:24]: Right. [1:05:24, 1:05:25]: All post. [1:05:27, 1:05:28]: Okay. Anybody sustain it? [1:05:29, 1:05:29]: No. [1:05:31, 1:05:31]: Yeah. [1:05:32, 1:05:33]: Right. [1:05:33, 1:05:34]: It was [1:05:34, 1:05:37]: Well one. All right. Well one it passes. [1:05:37, 1:05:40]: Thank you, gentlemen. Mayor, what is the vote? Or one. [1:05:40, 1:05:41]: Thank you, gentlemen. [1:05:41, 1:05:46]: We will we will get some pictures and and renderings for a council to have. [1:05:47, 1:05:52]: So that they'll know exactly what we're doing in those areas. [1:05:53, 1:05:58]: People don't do cowboys. [1:06:00, 1:06:02]: Thank you. [1:06:04, 1:06:08]: Council consideration to fill vacancy at Downtown Development Authority, Mr. Williams. [1:06:08, 1:06:16]: Mr. Williams, before you speak picking, I got a suggestion that's that we probably would want to deal with this in a second session and come back out after the second session. [1:06:16, 1:06:17]: Since it deals with a personnel matter. [1:06:18, 1:06:20]: All right, that's that's okay. That's proper to do that. [1:06:20, 1:06:22]: All right, appreciate that. Um [1:06:22, 1:06:24]: On that note, um [1:06:24, 1:06:26]: City Manager, sir, comments please. [1:06:27, 1:06:29]: Um just very quickly I would mention [1:06:40, 1:07:00]: We enjoy those activities. As always, establish seeking ways that we can improve events. And we had some discussions about that hopefully very well and plans that we can improve. But overall, Bridge Best was a tremendous event for the city of Stockbridge. Also, I wanted to uh mention uh uh James Touchman was the new [1:07:00, 1:07:14]: economic development director of the city of Clockbridge and we're looking forward to um working with him in these fields and expertise and knowledge along with the other members of the city staff to do some great things moving forward. [1:07:14, 1:07:15]: All right. [1:07:16, 1:07:19]: On that note though, James, you want to come address the council at all? [1:07:20, 1:07:21]: Come on. [1:07:26, 1:07:37]: Gotta get used to coming to the podium, my man. That's what they tell me. I'm I'm watching and learning, so I do wanna say thank you. I've enjoyed my first week here. It's been great working with Mr Knight and the staff and just really getting to know them very well and [1:07:37, 1:07:43]: I'm looking forward to hitting the ground running and kinda in the next few months laying out the groundwork for what I think will be a great twenty nineteen for us. So I just want to thank you all and [1:07:44, 1:07:47]: I'm available twenty-four hours a day, so thank you all. [1:07:47, 1:07:52]: Oh I know. Any questions for Mr. Yeah, what else was gonna say. Council, you got any questions for James before you sit down? [1:07:54, 1:07:55]: Thank you, Councilman. [1:08:02, 1:08:06]: Thank you, Councilman. All right. Anything else? Okay, thank you, Janet. Appreciate it. Welcome. [1:08:06, 1:08:07]: All right, uh [1:08:08, 1:08:09]: Clerk, Miss Clerk, anything? [1:08:10, 1:08:22]: Uh yes, Mayor, I would like to remind everyone that tomorrow is the last day to register to vote in the November sixth election. And if you have not voted in recent elections you may have been purged, so it's important to check and make sure [1:08:22, 1:08:24]: Your registration is active. [1:08:24, 1:08:28]: And you can visit our website at cityofstockbridge dot com. [1:08:28, 1:08:30]: or f our Facebook page for more information. [1:08:31, 1:08:38]: I would also like to encourage everyone to sign up for code red to receive alerts and information pertaining to bad weather in our area. [1:08:38, 1:08:41]: This app's call it will call your phone. [1:08:41, 1:08:43]: Number that you list. [1:08:43, 1:08:51]: Uh it will send you an email and also text messages. So it's important that you sign up for the Code Red app and you can also get that information from our webpage. [1:08:52, 1:08:59]: And lastly, I would like to extend a special thank you to Ms. Mildred Reed for everything that she has done and continues to do as a volunteer for the City of Stockbridge. [1:09:00, 1:09:01]: Miss Reed has always been there. [1:09:02, 1:09:08]: and would be one that you could call on and also depend on and I just wanted to thank her for everything she's done for the city. [1:09:08, 1:09:09]: Thank you. [1:09:13, 1:09:14]: Please. [1:09:14, 1:09:18]: Yeah, I just also wanna uh welcome Mr. Tushon for um [1:09:18, 1:09:20]: coming uh for choosing. [1:09:21, 1:09:23]: He could have chose to to go elsewhere but [1:09:23, 1:09:25]: Uh we just want to thank him for coming. [1:09:26, 1:09:30]: I do want to say to the citizens and those that may be watching and those that are here. [1:09:30, 1:09:31]: is that [1:09:31, 1:09:32]: Uh you know. [1:09:32, 1:09:37]: Economic development is a commitment that we made to the citizens. [1:09:37, 1:09:38]: uh many years ago. [1:09:39, 1:09:39]: Um [1:09:40, 1:09:44]: Community and economic development, you know, we we pledge. [1:09:44, 1:09:46]: to move this uh this city forward. [1:09:46, 1:09:49]: Uh and this is in in keeping in line with our mission. [1:09:50, 1:09:52]: So I I just want to say that uh also that [1:09:53, 1:09:55]: Uh this is not our first director. [1:09:55, 1:10:00]: Uh back in twenty twelve, twenty thirteen. [1:10:00, 1:10:01]: Um [1:10:01, 1:10:02]: former um [1:10:03, 1:10:07]: Chair of the commission, Mr. BJ Matthews was here and from that time. [1:10:07, 1:10:09]: You know, we've been trying to get back. [1:10:09, 1:10:10]: uh to this point. [1:10:11, 1:10:12]: to have a director here. [1:10:12, 1:10:16]: to lead the charge for economic and community development. [1:10:16, 1:10:19]: uh here in the city of Starbury that I believe at that time [1:10:20, 1:10:22]: It was under one shop and I think we [1:10:22, 1:10:25]: So to divide that uh with Mrs. Uh Moore's shop. [1:10:26, 1:10:29]: So I just want to say welcome and uh we look forward to working with you. [1:10:29, 1:10:31]: Also want to take this opportunity to [1:10:31, 1:10:35]: uh invite all organizations, individuals that would love to [1:10:36, 1:10:36]: Um [1:10:37, 1:10:40]: partner with the city of Stockbridge, we don't trash Stark Bridge. [1:10:40, 1:10:42]: It is a going ongoing initiative. [1:10:42, 1:10:43]: I'd like to thank the [1:10:44, 1:10:44]: Uh [1:10:45, 1:10:46]: The [1:10:46, 1:10:49]: Cap Alpha Psy Fraternity, Alumni Chapel. [1:10:49, 1:10:52]: The Omega Sapphire Alumni Chapter Four. [1:10:52, 1:10:54]: actually partnering with this organization. [1:10:55, 1:10:58]: And all of you that would like to join me on October the twenty second. [1:10:58, 1:11:01]: We will be taking this initiative to the four H [1:11:02, 1:11:03]: Um [1:11:04, 1:11:05]: In [1:11:05, 1:11:06]: McDonough. [1:11:07, 1:11:13]: So it is ongoing and anyone that love to to get involved with us, please uh contact me or Mrs. Jackson. [1:11:13, 1:11:15]: And uh we would love to have your assistance in that. [1:11:16, 1:11:16]: Thank you. [1:11:17, 1:11:18]: Councilman Blount, please. [1:11:19, 1:11:20]: Yeah. [1:11:20, 1:11:25]: I'd like to say that uh on um October the third we had our first uh bigo bash. [1:11:25, 1:11:27]: Here in the city of Stockbridge and it was a [1:11:28, 1:11:31]: Huge success and a lot of fun and we're going to be planning a new one. [1:11:31, 1:11:31]: Another one. [1:11:32, 1:11:33]: uh here uh very soon. [1:11:34, 1:11:40]: Um also like to say that to uh all the citizens that any any ones that are looking in and the ones that are here. [1:11:40, 1:11:42]: that it's very important that we get out and vote. [1:11:43, 1:11:44]: Uh on November the sixth. [1:11:45, 1:11:48]: This is a very important election for a lot of reasons. Just get out and vote. [1:11:49, 1:11:52]: Uh everyone votes matters, especially in local elections. [1:11:52, 1:11:53]: Um [1:11:53, 1:11:58]: And and with that being said is that, you know, I think each and every council member up here is striving to [1:11:58, 1:12:00]: Just have a better community and a better city. [1:12:01, 1:12:02]: for its for its citizens. [1:12:03, 1:12:06]: And so if you get a chance to volunteer in any areas with the city [1:12:06, 1:12:09]: Take those opportunities and be a part of making this city. [1:12:10, 1:12:13]: uh just better, uh better than the great cities already is and uh [1:12:13, 1:12:14]: Thank you for coming. [1:12:15, 1:12:16]: Mayor Paul Tim Gamp, please. [1:12:16, 1:12:20]: Yes. Um thank you for your continued prayers and your support. [1:12:21, 1:12:27]: Um, I would like to especially thank Miss Reed for her service on the D DA and her continued service here. [1:12:28, 1:12:37]: Um th she's been a pleasure to work with. Um, your efforts don't go in vain and we thank you and we hope to continue to see you around. [1:12:38, 1:12:47]: Um, I would like to welcome Mr. Tushton to our team. Um I look forward to working with you. The D D A looks forward to working with you and just wanna say [1:12:47, 1:12:49]: Thank you for for joining us. [1:12:50, 1:12:52]: Um in regards to our citizens [1:12:53, 1:12:53]: Uh [1:12:54, 1:13:02]: I would love to just thank those citizens who have been a continued support of Stockbridge, who have hit the ground running. [1:13:03, 1:13:23]: um and have gotten the word out about some of the issues that have come across, particularly the City of Stockbridge and Eagles Landing issues and other issues and their efforts. So I I thank everyone um just for their continued support. Um and lastly I would like to thank uh Senator Jones. [1:13:23, 1:13:40]: I would like to thank Senator Jones for his wonderful town hall and his continued efforts to get the word out and get the facts straight on what we're doing here. We're continuing to fight. We are continuing on with our court cases and just wanted to say thank you for that as well. [1:13:41, 1:13:47]: And last and la not least, I would love to say thank you to our staff. You guys have [1:13:47, 1:13:52]: hung in there, you've been phenomenal. And th with the Bridge Fest going on [1:13:52, 1:13:53]: It was [1:13:54, 1:14:09]: outstanding, probably uh it wasn't probably it was the best bridge fest we've had yet. So to the events team, to Miss Moore, to everyone out here and all the volunteers, uh Miss Holiday, [1:14:09, 1:14:12]: City Manager, everyone, just thank you so much. [1:14:13, 1:14:14]: Councilman Alexander, please. [1:14:16, 1:14:17]: I'm telling you. [1:14:17, 1:14:21]: Thank you so much for everybody tuning in and uh everybody [1:14:21, 1:14:22]: uh participating [1:14:23, 1:14:23]: In the [1:14:24, 1:14:25]: Political [1:14:25, 1:14:27]: process here in the city of Stockbridge. [1:14:28, 1:14:31]: First I want to say I'm working on an initiative um [1:14:31, 1:14:35]: over at Flippin Elementary. There are no sidewalks. [1:14:35, 1:14:37]: Uh at this particular [1:14:37, 1:14:38]: Elementary school. [1:14:39, 1:14:40]: And on Peach Drive. [1:14:40, 1:14:42]: uh where many Stockbridge students [1:14:43, 1:14:48]: uh go to this el elementary school which is flipping. I live in Winslow at Eagles Landing. [1:14:48, 1:14:51]: There's sub de several subdivisions that surround the school. [1:14:52, 1:14:53]: But there are no sidewalks. [1:14:53, 1:14:55]: And there's a forty mile per hour speed limit. [1:14:56, 1:14:57]: Along Peach Drive. [1:14:57, 1:15:00]: Uh this is totally unacceptable and as a safety risk. [1:15:01, 1:15:05]: Many times we react to these items w once a tragedy has happened. [1:15:06, 1:15:11]: I'm calling on the entire community to act now before there's a tragedy [1:15:11, 1:15:12]: That will occur. [1:15:12, 1:15:16]: And we will issue thoughts and a prayers, but they will not bring that child back. [1:15:16, 1:15:19]: We can act now in order to work with the county. [1:15:20, 1:15:21]: The school board and [1:15:22, 1:15:23]: Um ourselves. [1:15:23, 1:15:43]: uh all at the table to provide a service. Again, uh all of the students in Winslow at Eagles Landing, the Terrace at Eagles Landing, the Magnolias at Eagles Landing, all in Stock Ridge City Limits attend uh Flippin' Elementary. And there are no sidewalks there connecting the adjoining neighborhoods. I reached out to the school board and [1:15:43, 1:15:48]: to the county to get everybody at the table. That's why it's so important that we attend [1:15:49, 1:16:09]: these splash beatings as well so to determine what projects are needed. There are sidewalks and trails that are needed throughout the community that we need everybody to engage on. We don't need another citizen, a pedestrian hit or killed, trying to cross a busy s busy thoroughfare because we don't have sidewalks. Next [1:16:09, 1:16:10]: I would like to [1:16:10, 1:16:14]: Thank uh Joyce Lattell, thirty five years in radio, her [1:16:15, 1:16:17]: event was absolutely fantastic. [1:16:17, 1:16:27]: It celebrated thirty-five years of giving in the community and also the open heart of the community and her giving and her network. [1:16:27, 1:16:30]: Uh Joyce is a Henry County resident. Uh [1:16:30, 1:16:31]: And she actually [1:16:32, 1:16:36]: does so much for the community through her actions and her work. So thank you. [1:16:36, 1:16:37]: And congratulations to [1:16:38, 1:16:40]: Joyce Lattell of V one oh three. [1:16:40, 1:16:45]: Ja I would like to welcome James uh to the com to Stockbridge and the say. [1:16:45, 1:16:48]: Economic development is something that requires action. [1:16:49, 1:16:51]: This council over the last uh [1:16:51, 1:16:56]: you know, year has taken that action, creating your pr recreating reestablishing your [1:16:57, 1:16:59]: uh position and establishing that position. [1:16:59, 1:17:02]: solidly as we continue to build the team. [1:17:03, 1:17:06]: of the top talent in the Metro Atlanta area. [1:17:06, 1:17:08]: That they will be the best equipped [1:17:08, 1:17:11]: They will be the best compensated and they will be the best [1:17:12, 1:17:13]: A synergistic team. [1:17:14, 1:17:17]: to move the city forward to establish the [1:17:18, 1:17:23]: or to meet the goal that we have set of the best and the most progressive city in Metro Atlanta. [1:17:24, 1:17:33]: Uh there's a town hall coming up on the twenty fifth, October twenty-fifth. There's a large road project called the Campground Road Extension which runs through Thalkridge City limits. [1:17:34, 1:17:50]: that uh will impact my community, Winslow at Eagles Landing, the Magnolis at Eagles Landing, the Terrace at Eagles Landing. It is a major road project and we have an update coming from uh Rock Romero of the SWAS committee because it was a one hundred percent Henry County project. [1:17:50, 1:17:52]: And that project will be the subject. [1:17:52, 1:17:55]: Uh actually it's the new Jodeco Road. [1:17:55, 1:18:01]: uh at that point and it will pr provide some traffic relief for the community. Thank you so much. [1:18:01, 1:18:03]: Councilman Councilwoman Robinson, please. [1:18:03, 1:18:04]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:18:04, 1:18:09]: Um I just want to say thank you to staff for all the hard work that you continue to do. [1:18:09, 1:18:14]: I definitely want to um commend you all for reaching out to um GMA. [1:18:14, 1:18:20]: um the Carl Vinson Institute and all those bringing them to the city of Stockbridge. We need them here. [1:18:21, 1:18:24]: So that way they can see what development that we're going to be having. [1:18:24, 1:18:28]: We d have an economic development director now, so when they start seeing [1:18:28, 1:18:32]: things start to go up, they'll know that it's happening here in Stockbridge. [1:18:32, 1:18:38]: and they'll want to also be able to spend their dollars um within our downtown area as well. [1:18:38, 1:18:41]: So we have a new day here in Stockbridge, so thank you so much. [1:18:41, 1:18:44]: um for reaching out um to those organizations. [1:18:45, 1:18:48]: Um BridgeFest. Bridgefest was definitely um [1:18:48, 1:18:52]: a wonder a success this year. Um our youth council. [1:18:52, 1:18:57]: had a wonderful time. They did a fundraiser and I just want to commend all of the young people. [1:18:57, 1:19:01]: Um they actually helped everyone that was out there. They had a great time. [1:19:02, 1:19:06]: So I do want to say thank you so very much for that team putting Bridgefest together this year. [1:19:07, 1:19:12]: Um I also want to just end by saying with the residents that were here tonight. [1:19:12, 1:19:16]: as I listen to them fighting for their communities. That's what it's about. [1:19:17, 1:19:19]: It's about coming here and showing this council. [1:19:19, 1:19:21]: That you love your community. [1:19:21, 1:19:26]: I heard some that said they're in our sister um or like Clayton County. [1:19:26, 1:19:27]: our neighboring cities. [1:19:27, 1:19:34]: And they basically was stating that what they're trying to do is not just about them. They're also trying to m to partner. [1:19:34, 1:19:37]: to make us look all look good at the same time. So [1:19:38, 1:19:42]: I just want to commend them for coming forth tonight and and all the other nights. [1:19:42, 1:19:43]: I'm a uh [1:19:44, 1:19:45]: before the planning commission [1:19:45, 1:19:49]: to fight for their communities. So I'm asking all of the Sopridge citizens [1:19:49, 1:19:52]: to get involved. Um what you bring to us. [1:19:52, 1:19:56]: is what we need to stand on. We're here for you. You elected us. [1:19:56, 1:19:57]: And that's what we need to do. [1:19:58, 1:20:01]: Um we sometimes get up here and we go back and forth. [1:20:01, 1:20:05]: But it's in the best interest of our citizens. But if we don't hear from you [1:20:05, 1:20:12]: then we won't know. So a lot of times we just need for you to be involved and speak up because that's why we're here. So I just again [1:20:12, 1:20:15]: want to commend them for standing up for their communities. [1:20:15, 1:20:18]: Because you know exactly what you want in your community. [1:20:18, 1:20:24]: And we know exactly what we want in our city so we can work together when we put all this together at one time. [1:20:24, 1:20:26]: Thank you, Mayor. Ron, welcome. [1:20:26, 1:20:32]: James Tustin, welcome to the team. Okay, we look for great things to come out of you as we continue to move the city forward. [1:20:32, 1:20:34]: I want you to also know that real men wear pink. [1:20:35, 1:20:39]: So for all you gentlemen wearing pink tonight, fantastic. Continue to wear pink during the course of the [1:20:39, 1:20:43]: breast cancer awareness month and support uh those uh survivors in that aspect as well. [1:20:44, 1:20:53]: Bridgefest was fantastic. Not only was it the best, it was the biggest thus far. And I want you citizens to know that next year when we have Bridge Fest, it will look totally different than it looks this year. [1:20:54, 1:20:57]: We're going to have something fantastic to tell you and show you. [1:20:58, 1:20:59]: Physically within [1:21:00, 1:21:02]: And once we do that, you'll see what I'm talking about. [1:21:03, 1:21:04]: It's gonna be a great thing. [1:21:04, 1:21:08]: And it's one of those steps to make the city even greater than it is now and take the city into the future. [1:21:09, 1:21:09]: All right. [1:21:10, 1:21:10]: You're gonna love it. [1:21:11, 1:21:11]: It's coming. [1:21:12, 1:21:13]: All right. [1:21:13, 1:21:14]: Wait on it. [1:21:14, 1:21:15]: Okay. [1:21:16, 1:21:21]: Besides that, let's see, what else I need to say here tonight? Happy Halloween for all you folks. It's the end of the month. [1:21:22, 1:21:23]: Be be careful out there when you're [1:21:23, 1:21:25]: Which are cr kids or grandkids and [1:21:26, 1:21:27]: giving out those goodies to uh [1:21:28, 1:21:30]: All those young folks coming through the through the home. [1:21:30, 1:21:32]: Uh to your home on the on the thirty first. [1:21:33, 1:21:34]: And of course [1:21:35, 1:21:37]: None of us are interested in splitting our city. [1:21:37, 1:21:44]: And and to show you that effort, uh and uh indicate to you that we got another court case tomorrow morning. [1:21:44, 1:21:45]: With the Georgia Supreme Court. [1:21:46, 1:21:48]: And um it's at ten o'clock in the morning. [1:21:49, 1:21:59]: Uh and uh what it is is Mr. Mike Bowers, uh the former attorney general of the st of state of the state, uh roughly I think 16 years is going to present that. [1:21:59, 1:22:14]: to the Georgia Supreme Court and this deals with the ballot and how the ballot is reads and the unconstitutionality of that particular of the ballot itself. So that's coming up. And the results of that are uh uh come out uh eventually, hopefully before the November sixth as well as the results of our federal [1:22:14, 1:22:19]: case that uh occurred uh two weeks ago. Wait for that decision from that particular judge. [1:22:20, 1:22:20]: And leave me. [1:22:20, 1:22:22]: Yeah, that particular jazz there as well. [1:22:23, 1:22:26]: So we're still moving forward folks and we're still optimistic. [1:22:26, 1:22:27]: We're not looking split. [1:22:27, 1:22:30]: And once once we get over the speed bump, not call it a speed bump. [1:22:30, 1:22:31]: Right now? [1:22:31, 1:22:34]: We're going to continue to move the city forward with your help and your assistance. [1:22:34, 1:22:35]: Your systems. [1:22:36, 1:22:37]: In two conversations. [1:22:38, 1:22:39]: And do action. [1:22:39, 1:22:40]: We will show you. [1:22:40, 1:22:41]: Our actions. [1:22:42, 1:22:45]: Thank you for being engaged. Thank you for listening. God bless you all. [1:22:45, 1:22:45]: It looks like [1:22:47, 1:22:49]: Now on that note I'll read all these announcements. [1:22:50, 1:22:56]: U Council meeting Wednesday, October 10th, 5.30 p.m. right here at the City Hall, Levi Stopridge Room. [1:22:57, 1:23:00]: Educational Informational Town Hall, Mount Olive Baptist Church. [1:23:01, 1:23:03]: Okay, 469 Mount Olive Road. [1:23:03, 1:23:06]: In stopbridge, October 11th, this Thursday, 7 p.m. [1:23:08, 1:23:10]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting Friday, October 12th. [1:23:11, 1:23:12]: Nine AM [1:23:12, 1:23:13]: To leave by Stubberry's room. [1:23:14, 1:23:18]: The DDA meeting Monday, October 15th, 6 p.m., right here in City Hall. [1:23:19, 1:23:21]: And Levi Stockbridge reading room. [1:23:22, 1:23:26]: Another educational informational town hall, Cannon Cleveland Community Room. [1:23:26, 1:23:28]: 2580 Highway 42 Madonna. [1:23:29, 1:23:31]: That is Tuesday, October sixteenth, seven PM. [1:23:32, 1:23:37]: The youth excuse me, the youth council advisory committee meeting Wednesday, October 17th, 6 30 p.m. [1:23:37, 1:23:40]: Right here in the city hall, Levi Stubridge Room. [1:23:40, 1:23:45]: Planning Commission meeting Thursday, October 18th, 6 p.m., City Hall. [1:23:45, 1:23:46]: Council chambers. [1:23:46, 1:23:50]: Starberry's Association of Business Meeting, Thursday, October 25th. [1:23:51, 1:23:52]: Eight A. M. [1:23:52, 1:23:53]: Teth Strickland Community Center. [1:23:53, 1:23:56]: 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail. [1:23:57, 1:23:59]: Council Work Session Meeting Tuesday, October 30th. [1:23:59, 1:24:01]: Four PM, City Hall, Levi. [1:24:01, 1:24:02]: Strawberry's roll. [1:24:03, 1:24:05]: Breast Cancer Awareness Walk, Saturday. [1:24:07, 1:24:08]: October twentieth. [1:24:09, 1:24:10]: Noon to uh [1:24:10, 1:24:14]: It's supposed to be 9 a.m. to noon, Clark Community Park, registration required. [1:24:15, 1:24:19]: please uh visit of course our city events staff uh uh city events page [1:24:20, 1:24:25]: And you can get more information by calling 770-389-5982. [1:24:26, 1:24:30]: And somehow I must have missed it. Does that's the walk, but we actually have the luncheon. [1:24:31, 1:24:31]: is on [1:24:31, 1:24:33]: The previous on the eight. [1:24:33, 1:24:33]: T [1:24:34, 1:24:37]: 18th. The lunch is on the 18th, and that's by registration as well. [1:24:37, 1:24:41]: So you gotta go online, do register for that as well. That's a lunch that'd be in Merrill Manors. [1:24:42, 1:24:44]: And that's on the eighteenth. I forgot the start time, please. [1:24:45, 1:24:45]: Narakla. [1:24:47, 1:24:50]: Noon noon for the luncheon on the on the eighteenth, all right. [1:24:50, 1:24:53]: Then I have your home count hometown connection meeting October um [1:24:54, 1:24:56]: 25th, 4 p.m. to 5 30. [1:24:56, 1:24:59]: Muralman's Conference Center, hosted by a councilwoman [1:24:59, 1:25:02]: Robinson, GMA and A C C G [1:25:02, 1:25:07]: Then we have a town hall meeting Thursday, October 25th, 7 p.m. at Winslow. Okay, sis is. [1:25:07, 1:25:10]: Now Talmeen with the Councilman Nowazer, he's already mentioned that, okay? [1:25:11, 1:25:12]: On that note, uh [1:25:12, 1:25:15]: I believe we need to have to go to the second session here. [1:25:17, 1:25:17]: Okay. [1:25:18, 1:25:20]: Is there a motion for that, please, folks? [1:25:21, 1:25:25]: Mayor, I move that we go into executive session for real estate personnel and [1:25:25, 1:25:27]: Litigat litigation. [1:25:27, 1:25:28]: Thank you. [1:25:29, 1:25:30]: Okay, any further discussion? [1:25:31, 1:25:32]: All in favor, please indicate. [1:25:33, 1:25:37]: Um okay, great. Appreciate it. We'll go on Zac, we're back, folks. [1:25:54, 1:25:55]: No. [1:26:08, 1:26:14]: And all over the [1:26:32, 1:26:36]: [5197.7, 5209.9]: I did that one time. Oh I can't. I can see the picture. Something's wrong with my iPhone. [1:26:51, 1:27:03]: Wrong with my outboy. Oh my god. This is my personal phone. Something's wrong with my outfit. Get upright. So let me click down here. [1:27:09, 1:27:26]: Jones one? Well, it's great. Okay. Okay, wait. It's a map my view. [1:27:30, 1:27:42]: I can never go. Thank you. [1:27:55, 1:28:15]: Well yeah, I know we're couple of we have to start being on the same. [1:28:15, 1:28:35]: [5327.9, 5334.1]: [1:28:55, 1:28:59]: [5340.2, 5360.2]: I mean actually the time stuff very important. [1:29:20, 1:29:24]: Yeah, so probably that's [1:29:34, 1:29:45]: [5386.6, 5390.0]: Here we're back and [1:29:53, 1:29:56]: Oh I think that's [1:30:00, 1:30:01]: Oh. [1:30:15, 1:30:28]: I think that's working here on these uh then you know all I agree on. [1:30:32, 1:30:41]: [5443.1, 5454.7]: Okay, so it's a break for that. [1:31:15, 1:31:15]: Mm-hmm. [1:31:15, 1:31:24]: Now here you can be able to [1:32:14, 1:32:15]: Uh [1:32:40, 1:32:45]: I'm sorry. [1:33:18, 1:33:26]: [5610.2, 5611.8]: Yeah, yeah. [1:33:33, 1:33:43]: But you can have a lot of people. [1:34:00, 1:34:20]: Yeah, we have full arch button. [1:34:20, 1:34:28]: Okay, then I'll go. [1:34:35, 1:34:43]: So it was a little bit of a couple of obviously. [1:34:52, 1:35:12]: Because when I say like you see the wife, the whole round. [1:35:12, 1:35:19]: Why do you want to try to talk about the same thing? [1:35:35, 1:35:37]: I don't know. [1:35:39, 1:35:59]: I didn't think it's all apart because it I don't think we'll have to do it I'll have any wrong mails. I don't think we look at all the [1:35:59, 1:36:15]: Yeah, he said. Yeah, but this one. The bank yeah, the thing you have to do is okay, I'll put it in. [1:36:27, 1:36:27]: Yeah. [1:36:37, 1:36:42]: So they do. [1:36:45, 1:36:51]: [5818.2, 5827.5]: We don't have that now and we're at the right side. [1:37:12, 1:37:19]: [5841.3, 5842.8]: I get in the bottom. [1:37:37, 1:37:38]: Mm-hmm. [1:37:55, 1:38:10]: I think I'll look at that. [1:38:12, 1:38:20]: Fine spread there, but now. [1:38:22, 1:38:26]: I won't make that. [1:38:28, 1:38:39]: [5920.2, 5940.2]: I'm I'm I'm looking at something. I think uh no need to have seen it uh okay. [1:39:00, 1:39:00]: I mean. [1:39:02, 1:39:22]: I'm looking at the case. I'm starting to look at it. I'm starting looking at it. But I thought it's some transfer. Oh wow. [1:39:22, 1:39:42]: I think that's how we can work on the next thing. Well no, we do that. [1:39:42, 1:39:47]: Yeah, but is it whether you or she doesn't rather want to go? [1:40:10, 1:40:13]: And that's why we can't see that. [1:40:14, 1:40:20]: [6021.5, 6030.1]: Uh out of the market or some camera. [1:40:35, 1:40:39]: Okay, okay. Well that's that's also [1:40:41, 1:40:51]: I mean that the right over C. That's right. [1:40:55, 1:41:09]: That's right. Where are the leaves up? Yeah, wherever. Leave the band up. That's okay. Yes, ma'am. It's so strong that it would be what I can receive. [1:41:10, 1:41:15]: [6075.9, 6078.0]: Take all the characters that you write. [1:41:40, 1:41:41]: [6103.0, 6103.6]: Yeah. [1:41:52, 1:41:56]: Yeah we have uh uh West you know [1:42:18, 1:42:20]: What's up? [1:42:21, 1:42:25]: What is always five, right? [1:42:25, 1:42:27]: That's arguably. [1:42:40, 1:42:45]: I don't know. [1:42:52, 1:43:06]: Yeah. Yeah, we just add uh to the dog? Yeah, go. And it's like if you have an hour one, it's not short, it's very back in. Uh uh, what's the spare part of the house? [1:43:45, 1:43:49]: They uh that's they're here, so [1:44:31, 1:44:33]: But this is the listen to thing, so [1:46:10, 1:46:17]: It boiled down much, but it was also. [1:47:20, 1:47:22]: So we do that great. [1:47:23, 1:47:26]: So then you can [1:47:27, 1:47:30]: That's the normal. That's his wrong. That's not what we're talking about. [1:47:50, 1:47:50]: Uh [1:48:15, 1:48:17]: Yeah. [2:46:16, 2:46:19]: And regular wallet, all I will. [2:46:26, 2:46:29]: Uh that one is wrong. It should be right. [2:46:34, 2:46:35]: [10001.3, 10004.2]: Screen yes, uh [2:47:20, 2:47:20]: Okay. [2:47:25, 2:47:25]: [10125.1, 10129.7]: Based on that you have to blow any like I can go get my car, right? [2:48:55, 2:49:02]: Um let's come back for these. We're in the council and then go back to the counter. [2:52:45, 2:52:50]: Hey, hello fresh? Fresh? Yeah, southboard too. [2:53:13, 2:53:17]: Where little funnels are like kind of okay, [2:53:40, 2:53:45]: [10448.8, 10468.8]: Okay, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, but when you work the hour, you get paid extra. [2:54:28, 2:54:30]: [10486.7, 10491.2]: So we will be uh look out. [2:54:52, 2:54:59]: Yeah. What do you like to do? [2:55:00, 2:55:16]: [10517.4, 10523.5]: So there it is. Oh no, that's okay. [2:56:00, 2:56:20]: Oh. [2:56:20, 2:56:30]: But just like how it was. [2:56:36, 2:56:38]: [10600.8, 10620.8]: And all the microphones are [2:57:00, 2:57:10]: Oh my god, but it's great. [2:57:15, 2:57:18]: Well where [2:57:32, 2:57:52]: [10672.5, 10687.6]: Just create Oh yeah. I see that one of that so much needles wrong. [2:58:11, 2:58:31]: Well if it cannot put all of the point, it can balance long. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. [2:58:31, 2:58:37]: You like it, you know. That's all right. Hey, you know what? [2:58:39, 2:58:59]: Okay, yeah, you know, I just come in. I like the project. You know how we're talking how to get it. [2:58:59, 2:59:05]: If you think about the weather, I just think more than [2:59:16, 2:59:22]: Oh I think [2:59:24, 2:59:25]: Yeah. [2:59:25, 2:59:45]: Well I'm I'm definitely not somebody definitely I'm gonna have to leave myself. Uh so I mean [2:59:45, 3:00:04]: Yeah, but why did you put in the left rolling? That's a lot of [3:00:05, 3:00:25]: And that's the thing. One would be those cookbooks and say how took books in some. So I think what about the technical thing? [3:00:25, 3:00:43]: Well that's what is about. You make it so create. I love it. I love it. [3:00:43, 3:01:03]: I don't know. Well, I want to keep the little thing up and down my change. I'll tell you that. I'll tell you about this. [3:01:03, 3:01:05]: [10867.2, 10883.9]: I don't mind sitting that much. Oh, you have a thought could make you have a thought. [3:01:37, 3:01:57]: Oh my god. I don't like the function to that, but I don't like that. [3:01:57, 3:02:15]: Ah, that's the way it was over there that uh I went to uh six feet earth. That's it, it looks so bad. Hey, how you doing? You doing all right? [3:02:45, 3:02:45]: [11016.3, 11028.5]: [3:03:53, 3:04:00]: Uh oh the weight of the computer can't play. I give credit. [3:04:05, 3:04:15]: Yeah, like you are being yard without four of them. Right? [3:04:16, 3:04:25]: I'm trying to try to tell you to learn some idle. Come on, but I gave it here we go. [3:04:30, 3:04:34]: All right, but I go there, I can't go. [3:04:35, 3:04:37]: Uh [3:04:38, 3:04:45]: Well you're voting and put it up for the PDF or I want to do that. [3:05:07, 3:05:12]: Yeah, no world. [3:05:12, 3:05:15]: Well I think we'll just uh [3:05:20, 3:05:35]: You like going in there with one? No, in fact, uh you'll still have a fork and thing, but I'm gonna tell them to come on out. [3:05:38, 3:05:56]: Oh Mr. Wheel? They still in there, right? Okay. [3:05:57, 3:06:03]: It's all the lead on our own. Okay, so [3:06:04, 3:06:17]: [11179.6, 11190.0]: And we know that we know how good. [3:06:40, 3:06:51]: We have to make more one because we're quite stuck. [3:06:51, 3:07:04]: Right, is the time I can wear it? Okay, so I have a phone. Yes, I'm the one. Yeah, but we do it anymore. Oh yeah, that's the other. Okay, well. [3:07:19, 3:07:21]: Okay, uh Council, I need a motion to uh c um [3:07:22, 3:07:24]: To end the second session, please. So moved. [3:07:24, 3:07:25]: A second. [3:07:25, 3:07:25]: Mm. [3:07:26, 3:07:27]: Discussion. [3:07:27, 3:07:28]: All flavour, please indicate. [3:07:29, 3:07:29]: Okay. [3:07:30, 3:07:33]: I need a motion to uh reconvene our council meeting. So moved. [3:07:34, 3:07:36]: Okay, any discussion? [3:07:37, 3:07:38]: All in favor, please indicate. [3:07:39, 3:07:39]: Okay. [3:07:40, 3:07:43]: Now I I need a motion, we made a decision, I need a motion. Uh [3:07:43, 3:07:47]: to uh for in reference to our action that we discussed in the second session. [3:07:47, 3:07:49]: Deal with our DDA appointing. [3:07:50, 3:07:54]: Yes, sir. I would like to make a motion to appoint Roger Custon to the DDA. [3:07:55, 3:07:58]: Board of Stockbridge. Okay, so okay, so further discussion? [3:07:59, 3:07:59]: Yes. [3:08:01, 3:08:01]: Go ahead, sir. [3:08:02, 3:08:05]: Um just to let uh the citizen know what this appointment is and [3:08:05, 3:08:07]: Awesome appointment and [3:08:07, 3:08:08]: Um [3:08:09, 3:08:12]: Yeah, we have uh ever changing boards and so there may be [3:08:12, 3:08:15]: other vacancies on this board or other boards and just uh [3:08:16, 3:08:17]: Go to our website to keep updated. [3:08:17, 3:08:18]: Okay, great. [3:08:18, 3:08:19]: Any further discussion? [3:08:20, 3:08:22]: Not all in favor of the motion, please in the K. [3:08:23, 3:08:35]: I just want to just make a statement that it is possible that uh energy for the numbers could change, you know, that numbers could be added uh for this. [3:08:36, 3:08:45]: Okay, good deal. Mayor, to add to that we currently have posted on our website the vacancy, two vacancies on our Main Street Advisory Board. [3:08:45, 3:08:50]: Okay. Currently. Good deal. All right. Applications are being said accepted through October twenty fifth. [3:08:51, 3:08:54]: All right, so on that note uh we've got a motion and a second. Uh [3:08:54, 3:08:57]: No further discussion. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:08:57, 3:09:00]: Okay, great. Uh Mr. Roger Cusson is now been a [3:09:00, 3:09:01]: proved to be on the D D A board. [3:09:02, 3:09:04]: And council, I need a motion to end our council meeting. [3:09:06, 3:09:08]: Okay, any further discussion? [3:09:09, 3:09:13]: All favor motion please indicate. Everybody in favor of the motion? Okay. Meeting is adjourned. [3:09:16, 3:09:24]: Good night. We'll see everybody tomorrow. Uh after about if you bought one. [3:09:29, 3:09:44]: [11401.8, 11410.9]: Yes we did. [3:10:12, 3:10:19]: We agreed on this. We don't want to agree on that. [3:10:25, 3:10:33]: So you don't need any more. So I've asked you more than one. [3:10:33, 3:10:50]: Well something is that I don't want to do that. Um [3:10:52, 3:10:54]: Got okay. [3:10:55, 3:11:10]: Well I just don't think we'll start the stream so I don't know. [3:11:21, 3:11:25]: [11490.4, 11495.0]: Ecco in cui [3:11:41, 3:11:44]: Oh [3:11:45, 3:12:05]: I got a little bit of hand. She talked about how much you're trying to jump in, so she might you make her or uh return to some. Oh book. [3:12:05, 3:12:23]: And she said that one way she called all the stuff over that or um what do you say? I'll call GMA and then they'll call everybody that's over. [3:12:25, 3:12:43]: Just change a bit. A bit light. No, this side. Yeah, main thing, yeah. There you go, I can see. [3:12:43, 3:12:45]: Wait, move the [3:12:46, 3:12:46]: Okay. [3:12:50, 3:12:56]: Um probably [3:13:05, 3:13:06]: Yeah. [3:13:14, 3:13:25]: That you know about that why do you just talk about your hand statement? [3:13:25, 3:13:37]: Sounds like you're a I'm sorry, what's that? [3:13:45, 3:13:46]: They've been. [3:14:05, 3:14:06]: [11654.8, 11655.1]: Mm.
  • 2018-09-25 · City Council · Transcript · Work Session Meeting

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    --- title: September 25 2018 Work Session Meeting date: 2018-09-25 source: 2018-09-25_September_25_2018_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:07]: lot of different uh again when we had the the last con the last meeting with everybody in the public at 10 stricken. [0:00:07, 0:00:08]: Yeah. [0:00:09, 0:00:29]: citizens were at immediately gung ho on no parking on the streets. But there's a reason why most cities and most municipalities don't have this ordinance in place and and there's a reason why it's not in place. Um and that is you have the right and use of enjoyment of your property, especially particularly [0:00:28, 0:00:48]: events. And so we need to be very particular and understand that. And so you know, it it sounds great. It would be a great campaign that I got people off the streets, but in in general when you have events from birthday parties to baby showers to any type of activity, you have to have that into consideration. [0:00:48, 0:00:50]: Mm-hmm. And I'm not against it. [0:00:51, 0:01:00]: at all. By by no means I I get I you know, but once we started talking to those citizens and people started explaining the different scenarios [0:01:01, 0:01:01]: There there. [0:01:02, 0:01:22]: Everybody's like, wait a minute now. When I have a graduation party, I want to be able to do X, Y, and Z. So I would like to know the num numerous amounts of streets that this would affect in a particular manner. Exactly what Mayor Potem said in reference to my concern earlier. Um [0:01:22, 0:01:42]: Because you have to consider that and m so we're not looking like we're targeting certain areas. So if we're gonna be consistent and fair, I'm okay with that. But right now the way it looks is not it looks like we're targeting in the area that was brought to my attention. Okay. [0:01:42, 0:02:02]: Tell them on the side. You guys gonna come and stuff? No call. Okay, all right. Well you already had twelve two when the last time. I gave it a discussion, I only have one discussion time. Okay, go ahead and answer. Um Jim gonna say like I said, and I'll say this again, and I'm gonna continue to say it. My birthday party, my baby shower. [0:02:02, 0:02:22]: is not a real safety. Okay? Somebody's gonna lose their life because we value somebody's birthday party or a gathering. That is not appropriate for what we need to be doing. Um enjoyment of your property does not move towards the right of way. The municipality government, okay [0:02:22, 0:02:30]: We the right of way there is not there's not the wrong thing. I'm not I don't know the citizens that I'm talking to [0:02:30, 0:02:50]: aren't saying what you're saying. The ones that I'm talking to are fed up with having parties on the weekend and no one doing anything or being able to call the police and nobody responding to this particular issue because the police aren't enforcing the ordinance. This is something that will continue to play. [0:02:50, 0:03:05]: I'm sorry, but this is just something issue that we need to be fleshed out and to continually have extension after extension after extension. It shows a lack of leadership on our part. We take staff recommendations, we don't leave. [0:03:06, 0:03:26]: All right. Oh you do excellence here. Oh go go right ahead. I I'm sorry, I wasn't gonna say anything, but we gotta be careful and cautious when we're talking about something that's been in place for years. Yet I don't think the uh Henry County Police Department has had one person that said they got killed because we had something hadn't been implemented. So [0:03:26, 0:03:46]: So first of all, we have to be kept and cautious when we start to speak on those terms. Um anytime there's an implementation of something that's going to be effective to affect the whole affect the whole city as why it hadn't been done, I think things do take time. Some things you don't add water and get results. It takes a process. [0:03:46, 0:04:03]: and if this council is willing to take that process to make sure we make the right moves, then I think that this is the right thing to do. We all get phone calls. Okay, we all have citizens' concerns. One doesn't outweigh the other. So you got five council members here and the mayor. [0:04:04, 0:04:06]: It can be six different concerns. [0:04:06, 0:04:26]: One doesn't outweigh the other, then it takes a process that we have to come come up with that hopefully this one size can fit all. And it still may not be. So I'm I'm for the process. Okay, so in the in the sense of the process, we got a motion on the floor. We got a second. All favor of the uh the motion, please indicate. All right. All opposed? Okay. [0:04:26, 0:04:46]: 4-1 fast. Alright. Service delivery strategy. Mr. Williams, please. Mr. Mayor, this is a fairly straightforward uh resolution. The city manager uh in his discussions with the county manager or the other city managers. [0:04:46, 0:05:06]: Managers here in Henry County. They've all agreed sort of tentatively to request an extension of the time. I think it's 120 days to continue negotiations on the SDS. There are a number of reasons why we should do the same and sign on to that. First and foremost. [0:05:06, 0:05:26]: The county and a couple of the other cities are already going to do that, so Gongs don't have the choice. Um but that aside, um obviously the situation with the potential referendum that would change our boundaries um factors into our uh negotiations with the county and uh so [0:05:26, 0:05:46]: For a host of reasons, everyone, uh at least at the staff level is agreed to extend it. So we need your specific authorization to authorize the county manager or the city manager or the mayor to sign the extension that's attached to the resolution. Okay, and referencing, say 120 days. [0:05:46, 0:06:06]: Okay, the max 120 days effectively starting 1 October? Yeah, the extension from the date that it's required. I think it's it's through February. 28th. Yeah. So that's that's the max amount. So otherwise, that's the max amount that we're talking about now, but otherwise uh something that if we're able to satisfy the requirement. [0:06:06, 0:06:18]: part of that no problem. Absolutely. Okay. So thank you. Yes. Mayor I rightly make a motion that we extend the SDS agreement through February twenty eighth. Second there you go. Any further discussion? [0:06:19, 0:06:38]: No discussion all fear and motion, please indicate? Alright. I'll move. There you go. All right. Uh let's see. The council consideration approved the use of road matters commissary on November 17th, 2018, and the department connected hearing for the 2018 no in November event. Mr. Luck, please. [0:06:38, 0:06:58]: Yeah, uh real briefly, Mayor, this event is going on this third year in the city of Stockbridge. Um Stevie G and the Rockers, they they volunteered their time, the band comes in play, and they're trying to set up it's actually a toy drive that we that they're doing that uh I assist them with uh it's going on the third year. And the city has part [0:06:58, 0:07:18]: Partners to the point of giving the facility. But there along with Connecting Henry is involved also with the not only the citizens, but a toy drive for those citizens in the county. One of the things that this with the donation of the toys that come in and for the city part, we are donating. [0:07:18, 0:07:38]: In the facility, but there are just a few minor things that are needed for them because everything is donated, which I've helped every each year with flyers and banners, and I've also donated a few toys. But I think that if we are going to look at the benefit. [0:07:38, 0:07:58]: This is to our citizens. I don't look at it as any different than a job fair. A job fair provide a job and this uh and give and and give to the citizens, this gift to the citizens that may not have a job. So I think it has a benefit to it. Uh what uh what's being asked is something minimal, just enough to pay for the banners. [0:07:58, 0:08:18]: uh produce the flyers and um maybe bring in just a few toys from the city, uh whatever amount that will be, uh, because If I don't look at what's fair and what's not fair when it comes to what I do. I do what I do. But I think that we're gonna make this uh we're gonna support them uh [0:08:18, 0:08:38]: That we can support them by giving facilities, but I think that we can go one step above, which is a minimum, or just uh at least help them out with the banners and uh and help them over it. All right. Okay, thank you. Yeah, yes, sir, go ahead. Uh I just want to ask Mr. Blount, is there uh a certain amount, dollar amount that you would recommend? It would be five hundred dollars. [0:08:38, 0:08:52]: The banners are not that expensive. Making the flyers are not that expensive. And we have to go to the wholesale and just get a few toys, you know. [0:08:53, 0:09:13]: We usually do uh two banners and uh we do uh we actually three banners, we do two in the city and we hang the one banner inside uh of the facility uh for anyone like with the city, you know, showing the city or whoever whoever would have sponsored here. [0:09:15, 0:09:35]: Okay, so uh maybe I'll miss it something. Is this this is considered a council mission or a city event? No, not a council mission. Okay, so I'm just but there are other council members that come to this city. Right, right. But my take is with this is that we've said that we were partner with them. But I'm trying to say we sh I think we should go beyond the stent of just a facility. Okay. [0:09:34, 0:09:54]: Because you know, I I put myself out there and I I I will do it. And if I have to do it this year I'll do it again. But I don't think it should be I sh I don't think I should be treating it as a council mission and when the city has said that we would uh we would partner with them. Okay. Yes sir, all right, please. I I I support this a bit wholeheartedly and you know work [0:09:54, 0:10:14]: with Ms. Cornelly early on to try to bring the event here to the city because you know most of the events were not coming here. And it's admirable work. I only have concern in that we don't want to set the presidents that we're doing. This is not, this is their event that we support. It's not a city event. So [0:10:14, 0:10:34]: So if we did that for them, then organizations like the NAACP or uh one of the sororities or fraternities might come back and say, Well, you did it for this nonprofit organization, why don't we do it for us? I think it's extremely appropriate if Mr. Blount wants to donate$500 from his council initiative fund, which he did. [0:10:34, 0:10:54]: Every right to do uh to continue to do so because uh he has worked at this particular event, but all of us have worked at this particular event, and what we do, I think Councilwoman Robinson has a toy drive, I have a toy drive, uh the city has a toy drive. I don't think it would be you know necessarily fair. [0:10:54, 0:11:14]: that those two and we have to use our council initiative funds in order to pay for the tour guides and they're all beneficial to all of the citizens of the city. I wholeheartedly support uh moving forward and doing what we need to do to support this event with advertising for the event, marketing for the event. [0:11:14, 0:11:34]: in order to uh not open up a checkbook to every organization that's uh participating we wouldn't want to do that because I mean the facility is a twenty eight hundred dollar facility uh that we're donating which is a substantial gain and as Mr. Bunt said he helps to bring in toys. [0:11:34, 0:11:54]: Uh I uh try to bring it towards myself and I'm sure everybody up here uh does as well. So you know sometimes it's uh shouldn't be on the taxpayer diamond what we're doing, but uh if he chooses to do that on his own individual account then so be it in Motor. Yes, go ahead. I'm gonna make this last comment and and if it's the council. [0:11:54, 0:12:14]: Desire not to do it. I'm not sitting here begging for anything. It bothers me when a council member says that we all have done this. Not this is not the Connected Henry project. It's Stevie G and the Rockets project. So it's not a Susan Cromley project. She's involved. And I've yet to see one other council member donate. [0:12:14, 0:12:25]: tokens or help out with the facilities. I've seen Mr. Alexander bring his uh his granddaughter, but when you sit here with this facade up that you're helping out already, that's just not true. [0:12:25, 0:12:35]: Because I'm there from the beginning, I'm there for the end. I'm not begging for anything. If this council will not to do it, then we just don't do it and I continue to do what I do, because that's what I do. [0:12:36, 0:12:40]: Yes, right, yes. [0:12:40, 0:13:00]: would you go ahead and make the motion for the conference center on that day and I will be willing to help donate towards the banners using some of my council initiative funds, but I tend to believe that the donation of the Merrill Makers building is adequate and and anything that each council member [0:13:00, 0:13:02]: Okay, so so be it. [0:13:03, 0:13:23]: Mayor, our motion for the use of Merriman's uh conference center on November 17th. Any further discussion? All right, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. There you have it. All right. On that note, uh actually comments from the Cincinnati City Manager. All right, great. Uh today um we will be sending you out your own IT. [0:13:23, 0:13:43]: itinerary for this week. We're getting up there. The Congress called this morning, they were up in Dalton. So obviously they got a little bit more rain up there. So they should be setting up at around 11 o'clock. But everything that pertains to this whole event, this week you're going to get that in the information package and what it is you [0:13:43, 0:13:55]: We'll give so you will be giving that to me. I know you guys get on the roll, but if you please check your email, that information will be in there. Okay, thank you. I do. I just want to remind everyone that October ninth [0:13:55, 0:14:15]: I think is the last day to register the vote and for everyone to get out and register the vote. Thank you. Um actually uh Mr. Comments. No comments. Mr. Bluff. Yeah, I just wanna to uh say on October the third, uh at the uh Taylor Strickland [0:14:15, 0:14:27]: Community Center. We're gonna have the first Bingo Batch for Seniors. It's gonna be on October the 3rd from 10 to 12. Fun, fun, fun for our seniors. [0:14:27, 0:14:47]: Can we? No comment. Sounds that yes, uh the first of all I want to thank everybody for tuning in and uh I want you to understand one thing. This meeting is at ten a.m. this morning. Okay. I apologize for that. Uh I did not approve of that particular measure to move this meeting to ten o'clock, but that's what we are. [0:14:47, 0:15:07]: That's where we are here now. I apologize to the citizens who were not able to make this meeting. Hopefully you are able to tune in and you will get the information that is necessary for you to partake and participate in the process. I want to start by acknowledging Joyce Lattell. [0:15:07, 0:15:27]: Of B-103 for her 35 years in radio. Joyce Lattell is more than just a radio personality. She is a tremendous giving citizen who always looks out for her community throughout the Metro Atlanta area. It was my pleasure to recognize. [0:15:27, 0:15:47]: Joyce Mattel uh during Women's History Month in 2016. This Saturday, Joyce is celebrating her 35 years in uh radio and community at the Women's Empowerment Brunch at Global Leadership Uh Center uh in Decatur, Snapping Road. Uh this particular event. [0:15:47, 0:16:07]: I will be presenting a certificate of appreciation for Joyce and everything that she has done in the community. And many of you may not know that Joyce is a Henry County resident. She lives in Stockbridge, unincorporated, and very active in our very own community, bringing events and supporting nonprofits. [0:16:07, 0:16:27]: So I will look forward to serving with Joyce or presenting Joyce this letter on Saturday again for her 35 years in radio and thank her for being the great true humanitarian and philanthropist that she are that she is in our community. [0:16:27, 0:16:47]: We're having a town hall meeting at my Winslow and Eagles Landing Subdivision at 900 Maple Leaf Drive. Rob Rivero, who is the SPLOS director, will be there reviewing Campground Road Extension. Campground Road Extension is a major project. [0:16:47, 0:17:07]: That has been going on, been on the books for decades now. And the project is very much nearing maybe 60 to 70% completion. And I hear that maybe phase one will be opening up very, very soon, and then the entire project should be completed mid-winter. But all stock resistance. [0:17:07, 0:17:27]: Citizens who want to come out because this roadway runs in Stockbridge City Limits, even though the city did not have any control of it and sold the rights to the Henry County. But come out and enjoy it and understand because there's been some great concern in the community about the project. It actually violates. [0:17:27, 0:17:47]: My neighborhood, but some of the citizens who are in our community now actually see some of the benefits from this road project as it will increase mobility from the east-west connector. So the east-west connector provider that we need in the community, helping our citizens with traffic. [0:17:47, 0:17:48]: But [0:17:49, 0:18:09]: Ms. Logson, please. Thank you, Mayor. Just want to thank everyone for listening and attending today. I do want to request that everyone come out to Bridgefront BridgeFest on Friday and Saturday because our youth council will be raising funds for their project where they've actually decided. [0:18:09, 0:18:29]: That they wanted to have lunch for our fighters here in Henry County. So they're gonna be doing that. So they're gonna be raising funds. They'll have a booth right out here in front of City Hall. So please come out, they'll be selling water, chips, and candy. Everything's a dollar, so make sure you have your dollar bills. [0:18:28, 0:18:48]: come out and support our youth council. But I look forward to seeing everyone this weekend because Bridge Fest, we're gonna have a grand time and staff has put in a lot of time into um presenting this and I look forward to doing it and hopefully see a lot of citizens out so that way we can meet and read. Thank you. Thank you. Citizens I want you to know that uh [0:18:48, 0:19:08]: When we conduct our council meetings or work sessions, any special call meetings, any decisions that the council makes is by consensus, regardless. Even I, as a mayor, only vote if there's a tie. I will have ultimate power. Every council member has to do one vote, period. Not one council. [0:19:08, 0:19:28]: Member can move anything without support of the rest of the council, no matter what the initiative is, it takes at least a minimum of three. And once that is done, it is three, we move on. And that's what should happen. We move on to the next task at hand, whatever that case may be. There are times long before I became mayor that I was also in the descending side. [0:19:28, 0:19:48]: And I didn't always get my way. So be it. We move on. Just like anybody else, when you're on the on the descending side and it's not gone your way, you gotta join in the team and keep moving. Move things forward. Just want you to know that, folks. Okay? It's a process we go through, we've got to follow the process to include myself. On that note, [0:19:48, 0:20:08]: I want you to know also that uh we have a federal court case at the Russell Robert Russell Building downtown. Remember how you pronounce that? Richard B. Russell. Richard Richard B. Richard B. Russell Building, yesterday. And uh I I think the results went well overall in a sense for the city of Stockbridge. We're waiting for [0:20:08, 0:20:24]: uh Judge uh Lee May to make her decision probably within days or so. We'll find out what she has to say about that. I think our attorneys along the Capital One attorneys did an outstanding job and our opposition had their little say so as well. We'll see what the results of that will be. [0:20:25, 0:20:45]: And so keep the faith, folks, that uh everything works out for the betterment of the city, whereas that we do not split. I'm not looking forward to split, don't want to split, no city council doesn't want one either, and I would think majority of the citizens of Stopper are not looking forward to any type of split whatsoever. Now, the clerk mentioned about early uh early voting ending on the equipment. [0:20:45, 0:21:05]: Registration. Restoration ending on the 9th. Well the 9th of October is another significant day. And on the 9th of October, we will also go before the Georgia Supreme Court in reference to the ballot questions themselves and the outline of the ballot questions and whether or not they're constitutional or not. So the 9th of October is another special day for us as well. [0:21:04, 0:21:06]: Keep post on that. [0:21:07, 0:21:26]: Once again, people who keep the faith and uh we are going to move the city forward. One complete whole city. Okay? On that note, I'd like to uh read some of the announcements here. Stockbridge association of business meeting is Thursday, September 27th, 8 a.m. at Tess Crickland Community Center. [0:21:27, 0:21:47]: We're looking to have a town hall with the council along with Senator Jones on Thursday, October 4th, but I believe it's going to be at the Mural Manor's Current Center. Okay, that's at 7 o'clock in the evening hours. There's the Educational Informational Town Hall, the Summit Subdivision. And that's going to be Saturday, October 6th from 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. [0:21:46, 0:21:55]: The U Council meeting Wednesday, October 10th, 5.30 p.m. and City Ball and Leave my stop for this uh room. [0:21:55, 0:22:15]: The main street advisory board meeting is Friday, October 12th, and 9 a.m. in the Levi Meeting Room. The Towntown Development Authority meeting is Monday, October 15th, 6 p.m. in City Hall in the Levi Meeting Room. The Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting Wednesday, October 17th, 6:30, the City Hall Levi meeting room. [0:22:15, 0:22:35]: Commission meeting Thursday, October 18th, 6 p.m. City Hall, Council Chambers. The council work session is uh Tuesday, October 30th, 4 p.m. at City Hall. Upcoming events and announcements of continue on continuation of the Don't Trash Drop Bridge No Litter Campaign. We're headed by Councilman Thomas. [0:22:35, 0:22:43]: To be outside the city hall here starting this afternoon. Do it to the 29th. [0:22:43, 0:23:03]: Bridge Fest starts on Friday, uh September 28th, featuring a free movie Coco at 7 p.m. on City Hall Long, and then we have great fun activities, cultural events in a downtown area around City Hall here on September 29th from noon until uh 10 p.m. Seniors Bingo Badge. I have here Wednesday, October 3rd. [0:23:03, 0:23:23]: Mr. Blount, I think you mentioned a different date. Is it October 3rd? When's October 3rd? The Bingo Bass? Yes. Wednesday October 3rd, 10 a.m. to 12 noon, the test stricken. And then of course our next town hall meeting, uh Thursday, uh the twenty Thursday, the 25th, the town hall meeting with Councilman Alexander. He mentioned that Winslow Subdivision. So the uh announcements I have on that. [0:23:23, 0:23:43]: No. Uh would imagine we need to go to the same session. So I need a motion to go to the same assessment council. Litigation personnel will say move. Okay, there we go any further discussion? All favor going to say the session? All right. Uh so moved. He did. Can she so move? Did he so move? All right. All favor. [0:23:43, 0:23:48]: Okay. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. Go to the router. [0:24:03, 0:24:09]: [1450.0, 1460.1]: Yeah, sure, I'm seeing one. Yeah, if you if you get way more than maybe chances. Sure, that's fine. Sure, we'll try and have a set fine. [0:24:48, 0:24:49]: This [0:25:06, 0:25:07]: Oh that's right. [0:25:12, 0:25:14]: That's it. [0:25:18, 0:25:22]: Outstanding. I can tell. Absolutely absolutely. [0:25:22, 0:25:42]: Yeah, we got oops. I'll go out and hang and then I'll say it. I just call this the library and then hang out with the library. Okay, that's fine. Okay, is that okay? [0:25:42, 0:26:02]: Thank you so much. Absolutely. I called you before I did try to call you a long time. Yeah. But I can't I can't get too much. I can get an hour. [0:26:17, 0:26:19]: Yeah. [0:26:20, 0:26:25]: Is that work during the off day or excuse me? Excuse me. [0:26:30, 0:26:31]: Yeah, yeah. [0:26:31, 0:26:40]: Yeah, work from one clock. Yeah, just like working. I'm not very strong. Yeah. I just ran. [0:26:42, 0:26:43]: Yeah, I think about the hundred. [0:26:45, 0:26:52]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think never I'm gonna be sure, sure about now. Morning Dash, come on, how you doing? [0:26:56, 0:26:58]:
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    --- title: August 28 2018 Work Session Meeting date: 2018-08-28 source: 2018-08-28_August_28_2018_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:24, 0:00:25]: Yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't know. [0:00:27, 0:00:30]: Okay. [0:00:36, 0:00:37]: Well called the Lord. [0:00:40, 0:00:52]: Invocation, please. Pastor Green, if you could come quite and if you can't stand, please go back. I would ask if you would take the hand of the person holding to you as we unite. [0:00:53, 0:00:56]: I want a board and go for the dwarf waist. [0:00:56, 0:01:16]: Everybody have a hand? Let us pray. Most wise God, we come to you today. Just thanking you for allowing us to get up this morning. Lord, we thank you for the angels that watched over us last night. And we thank you for allowing us to see the dying of this day. God, we just praise you and we thank you for your son Jesus, who gave it all that coward so that we're going to have this right. [0:01:16, 0:01:17]: The two of white. [0:01:18, 0:01:38]: Now Lord, as we intervene for this business session meeting here today at the City of Stockbridge, be in every thought, be in every decision, be in everything that's going to take place here. Because we know God, when you're in it, everything works out the way it has to work out. So we give you praise, we give you glory, we give you honor. [0:01:38, 0:01:58]: And we magnify your name. It's in the massive name of Jesus. We pray and we ask that all that the people of God say Amen. One nation. [0:01:58, 0:02:03]: We got individual team just as well. [0:02:15, 0:02:35]: Thank you. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. Yes, ma'am. I would like to ask to uh amend the agenda, please, uh changing new business number item number 13. [0:02:35, 0:02:38]: and bringing it up to be presented now. [0:02:38, 0:02:58]: Um before the public comments or after the public comments due to the fact that on our calendar everything is gonna be presented by staff and we only have one presenter and then that way uh they travel a good distance so that way we can go ahead and you know let them present and um be excused from the meeting. Okay, so you can [0:02:58, 0:03:18]: Mr. Mayor, I'd like to take this opportunity just to reiterate the calendar or the schedule of when uh items, agenda items, and supporting documents are to be submitted to the clerk office. It benefits all of us. [0:03:18, 0:03:38]: for us to meet these deadlines so that when we get our votes and we have the opportunity to ask staff questions. And they have an opportunity to answer those questions. So when we come to this meeting today or our regular meeting, we don't have to just get bogged down with a lot of questions. So [0:03:38, 0:03:58]: If you don't mind, Madam Clerk could reiterate that schedule. I would need to resubmit that. I don't know the date off time here, but I would certainly um redistribute the agenda timeline to staff and then on that note. [0:03:58, 0:04:10]: I guess it sensed the staff as well as the council will need to adhere to the timeline. And then that has okay? But we already have the move. This is their power for presentation for today. [0:04:10, 0:04:26]: Okay. Any other discussion on this uh amendment to the agenda? And then maybe I should ask uh if um the Congress of Plan is in there or do you also want Pile Plants available? Okay. I didn't know that. We'll make sure. [0:04:27, 0:04:37]: Just a clarification because you asked if you were going to be for or after the public on the on the institution. As the public after the public yeah, after public on the year. [0:04:38, 0:04:58]: Any further discussion about the amendment to the agenda, the most amendment to the agenda? I just want to say that uh I understand that we want to make sure that uh we fall in line and we do what's necessary to give staff time to uh you know prepare adequately for the remote and gave [0:04:58, 0:05:18]: to be flexible sometimes if important information comes forward. So you know that's maybe on case by case basis sometimes if something urgent or something important information comes, but we show some flexibility. Okay, so be it. And all the comments are favorable to please indicate? Okay, thank you. We appreciate that. [0:05:18, 0:05:38]: So uh we have public comments. No, no, no. Let me do this. That's in the uh the minutes from the following meeting. For you just to take review. I don't know if you have any changes in council on that, but uh the special call meeting on july twentieth, twenty eighteen. Work session minutes on July twenty-fourth, uh the uh council meeting minutes on [0:05:38, 0:05:40]: On the August thirteenth. [0:05:41, 0:06:01]: The um budget retreat minutes for the Thursday and Friday, the August sixteenth and seventeenth are in your books. We'll hold on these minutes for approval at our next meeting. They're in there if we read. Okay, I have a problem. Yes, ma'am. Um I have a discussion with our clerk in reference to our budget retreat. Um [0:06:01, 0:06:21]: um some of the minutes that were on there. Um it was just some concerns of statements that were made in reference to the youth council travels to the National League of Cities. Some of the things that was listed or stated that was indicated stated by me in the amount that for$3,000 that I was trying to reach [0:06:21, 0:06:41]: to obtain funding so that our vice chair can attend. And that was not my direction. My direction was actually including stating what did not take place. And what I did request was for the um already approved budget that was indicated um for the [0:06:41, 0:07:01]: twenty eighteen to be allowed. There was no amendment to the U Council budget. We were basically requesting for the budget that was already approved to be able to move forward. So some of the wording in here. Um and then there was no mention of the response from our city attorney to be included in these minutes. Um [0:07:01, 0:07:21]: volunteer capacity. So I just want to make sure um when we're doing it, I it I don't want it to look like the youth council is asking for additional funds when in fact that was not the case. So I had a conversation um with the clerk in reference to that, so I just want to um explain that to the card. Okay. So those changes will be made [0:07:21, 0:07:41]: for the rule or nuts. There was a difference of opinion on that. Um but that was stated by Council and Ronson. Um it was my understanding that we're gonna send out an email um to that effect and I was waiting [0:07:41, 0:08:01]: hear back from that email for any of the other members who are any meeting to chime in with that email went out. I hadn't seen that or Nora had I heard from any of the other members. Yes, and she's the way I was waiting until we had this meeting so that way I can be transparent verbally myself so that way everybody can see me saying it. But again [0:08:01, 0:08:21]: the when um asked by mayor pro tem Gantt what would it cost for that individual if that was the case, it was not the three thousand dollars. God gave a twelve fifty figure that would be the cost for her, but again the request was not to allow funding for that individual um in a sense to attend. It was just stated that [0:08:21, 0:08:41]: um if we had the monies for our budget that that would be uh an opportunity for her and some others if needed be to do things for the travel. So right now you give us clarification on on your position on this, we'll send an email out to everybody else. Yes. And then folks will chime in and look to potentially pop potentially adjust this. [0:08:41, 0:09:01]: before we move on to that next week. And even in our conversation, hopefully going forward when we have our retreats that we would have a uh tape of um that we we could make sure that we take our but our retreats as well so that way we won't have the um I guess the misunderstanding of what was said. Okay. Do you do have a comment [0:09:01, 0:09:21]: Yeah, I I think that uh as we go over the well there was a question raised by a citizen earlier when I was speaking with them about the uh the parking uh that's on the agenda. Right. Yeah we're gonna talk about that. Right, right, but yeah, right. We're gonna we're gonna open it back up and then correct. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it's a bad little open up and [0:09:21, 0:09:41]: All right, so on that note if uh we've already voted on that thing. You just have this account, we already voted on that. So really what's next I believe is public comments. There have been no approving. Okay. So on that note then um so we're gonna move it to go to item number thirteen, move it up now, council consideration approval the resolution. [0:09:41, 0:10:01]: The use of the lower level of uh Roman's Commerce Center for November 17, 8 a.m. to 2 p.m. for a housing forum with the Atlanta urban league and Miss Robinson, Mr. Robinson, you and Miss Brown. Yes, yes, Mayor. Well, she's coming up to the podium. I just wanted to start out as um I started last year with a housing forum, basically education. [0:10:00, 0:10:20]: Our community is an economic driven, so we want to definitely make sure that we're educating our community of what's available so that way our citizens will have the opportunity to have access. What she's going to be bringing to us today is the first time that this organization has held this on the South Side, which is [0:10:20, 0:10:40]: In Herman County, it's mostly done on the north end, and this is one of the larger events that they host. So anytime that there's an opportunity, um, like I said, we did the housing forum last year, and we also did one earlier this year that actually turned out to be something like a lunch and learn um for our employees. Um so we just want to expand. [0:10:40, 0:11:00]: this a little more and using it uh on the lower level of the Merrill Mandar Center because there's another event that will take place at the top. So this will be hosted at the lower level at a different time frame so it won't um interfere with the event that's going to be upstairs. Okay. And I just want to introduce this graph. [0:11:00, 0:11:20]: Thank you. Thank you all for having me. Thank you there forward. And uh Council Member Robinson and each of the Council members. Thank you all. Um as stated, my name is John Ed Brown and I am the director of our housing, well building and community development program with the urban [0:11:20, 0:11:26]: I think that's fine. [0:11:26, 0:11:46]: um uh with the urban league of greater atlanta and for those of you that aren't familiar with the urban leagues um we are a hundred and ten year old civil rights uh organization we are ninety eight years um candidate [0:11:46, 0:12:06]: Atlanta, Georgia, our national uh office is in New York. Um, we have several different platforms, and I made some copies and I hope everyone was able to get them of our different programs and platforms uh that we offer. We differ from a few of our other [0:12:06, 0:12:26]: sister organizations such as NAACP and Randall Bush and a few others in that we uh believe in the premise of economic development for all is where the eco sign is and it's not just for one group, one diverse group. We actually [0:12:26, 0:12:38]: service all groups that are undeserved and minority groups. So we are not just specifically for African Americans. We are from all the groups. [0:12:39, 0:12:59]: And our focus again is economic development. And we do so by educating those through different platforms such as the one that I run housing. We actually have six different platforms, one of which is our entrepreneurship program. [0:12:59, 0:12:59]: Mm-hmm. [0:12:59, 0:13:02]: where we educate those that are interested. [0:13:03, 0:13:23]: and um opening up a business or those that currently have a business but are looking to expand their business, looking for funding and partner with SBA and different organizations to help them in their business uh throughout the Metropolitan Atlanta area, including all metropolitan [0:13:23, 0:13:43]: the town counties, which includes Cameron County as well. We have a very good uh robust re-entry program um whereas we help those that are currently incarcerated. We uh just uh partner with the City of Atlanta and Marakeisha Lance Bottom. [0:13:42, 0:13:57]: and working with 10 individuals that are currently incarcerated but have been hired by watershed management for this to be attained. So these individuals are actually employed while they are incarcerated. [0:13:58, 0:14:18]: And instead of leaving um the system with twenty-five dollars and a good look and standing net chance for recidivism, they actually will be released with monies um from their employment uh once they are done. Uh things are done on [0:14:17, 0:14:37]: they're going to have such as taking care of that child support if it's there or anything that they may have any type of federal that is taken care of with those funds that they are receiving while incarcerate, which is awesome. I couldn't believe when we had that program. [0:14:37, 0:14:57]: We also have outreach and advocacy where we have voter registration drives. And we also have a very good youth platform where we work with youth ages 14 through 24 that may be in the middle of age of 18. [0:14:57, 0:15:17]: or perhaps been touched by the judicial system, or maybe they just need some guidance and direction. Maybe they are interested in getting a career started. We have a partnership with construction rate partnership. [0:15:17, 0:15:37]: So that they are trained in that field as well. And that's on our youth platform. And we also have a workforce development platform where we have those that are looking for different careers or perhaps want to just uh find a career, if you will, which is still a an issue. [0:15:37, 0:15:57]: in the state of Georgia um uh despite what um statistics say there are still quite a few people that are underemployed and unemployed and need help um in that area and of course housing wealth building and community development which is my program [0:15:57, 0:16:17]: And what we do is educate persons that are interested in purchasing homes. So we actually educate them on the process of becoming a homeowner. Not only that, we help them in the process of sustaining that particular property once they are homeownered. [0:16:17, 0:16:26]: Which um in Hingree County could be very beneficial to those that are currently in Hingley. [0:16:27, 0:16:47]: As far as economics are concerned, homeowners will be here. Renters will be here. So we know that building wealth and legacy, if you will, uh one of the first steps to doing so is possibly becoming a homeowner. Uh you know, that could help generation wise. So we also [0:16:46, 0:17:06]: We also offer financial education and financial literacy to that platform as well as foreclosure mitigation and intervention. So for persons that are in distress and they stand a chance of losing their home, we actually work. [0:17:06, 0:17:26]: uh with their servicers, their banks, landlord lenders to help um with that process. And if they actually need the terms and conditions of a loan that may be difficult for them to pay, we help mitigate that process and change the terms and conditions of that loan. We have them stay in that property. [0:17:26, 0:17:27]: [1047.5, 1060.0]: I uh usually have a workshop with the um educational workshop monthly where I typically have anywhere between 40 and 60 participants monthly. [0:17:40, 0:18:00]: And I have two large ones annually, one in the month of June, uh, which is National Ownership Month, and another one in the month of November in the Servants of Veterans Day. The two large events uh annually I usually have anywhere between a hundred to upwards to two. [0:18:00, 0:18:20]: 250 participants for the two larger ones. So on an annual basis, I normally touch about a thousand participants or potential homework. And lastly, I have a program that is called Bankworks, where we train participants. [0:18:19, 0:18:36]: over an eight-week period. It is an improved program, four cohorts, eight weeks for each cohort that are interested in the financial sector, entry-level banking position, and in the financial sector as a whole. [0:18:36, 0:18:56]: And those are our platforms and I'm super excited and I um hope you all are about the uh potential of bringing this to uh Henry County. I feel that it could be very beneficial. Um I always love we speak to Henry County when we discuss now payment assistance options. [0:18:56, 0:19:16]: because I do service the entire state of Georgia. And for those that travel to the city of Atlanta, quite a few of the residents already traveled, but they have to come to wherever I am throughout the metropolitan area. But they are citizens of Heron County and specifically of Southbridge. [0:19:16, 0:19:26]: I had appointed you that travel to leave on a monthly basis just to get that education and to receive their certificate, which makes them eligible for downpayment assistance. [0:19:27, 0:19:47]: Thank you, Ms. Brown. And also in the in here it stated to my colleagues, it said eight to two, but it's actually nine to four. So that was the uh error on my end. It's actually from nine to four on that Saturday. Are there any questions? So as a realtor myself, so tell me about the down [0:19:47, 0:20:07]: So it isn't our down payment assistance program. We are a hunter proof housing counseling agency, therefore all of my partners include Georgia Dream and West Atlanta. All of the county programs, all of the city programs. What we do is facilitate the education for the [0:20:07, 0:20:27]: Participants and issue those certificates that are mandatory for them to have in order to receive down payment assistance. My last large workshop, I had a firefighter because there are special programs out there for firefighters, police officers, and educators that was able to take advantage of down payment assistance. [0:20:26, 0:20:35]: On top of uh being in the program itself, which is allowed to put [0:20:39, 0:20:59]: So for us, is it for the residents? Is it for realtors too or is there a lot of people? I have a realtor too that comes, you know, that come in uh the classes, the way that they're set up, the large classes are vendor-drawn, which this would be a vendor-based um uh class. [0:20:59, 0:21:19]: So I partnered with Cellus for 25 years. So I know quite a few people in the business itself. So the way that the classes are set up is to educate the participants. I typically have a lender come in and speak for an hour, a router come in and speak for an hour, a closing attorney to come in and they stay. [0:21:19, 0:21:39]: sector appraisal, they leave with all of that information that they need from industry professionals as well as that certificate at the end of that class, at the end of each class. And the certificate is good for one week. [0:21:39, 0:21:59]: as you're doing you they you they they're talking through the process and then or the assistant have the worst in of uh in obtaining the the assistants they are okay they're actually encouraged to come in for counseling okay if they're ready to get pre-qualified a great many of them are ready to go right after [0:21:59, 0:22:15]: Some of them have to have, we take you wherever you are with the early. So whether they came in with a 700 credit score or a 400 credit score, I'm going to take them. And we're going to prep them to the point of getting approved. [0:22:16, 0:22:20]: Yeah. Yeah. Just a couple of quick ones real quick. [0:22:20, 0:22:25]: So these are but you're gonna have vendors at the location at the time of the time? [0:22:26, 0:22:46]: And the vendors would include industry professionals and then it would include some others that may be interest you know interested uh in the city of stockers, such as your local banks. I would encourage them to come and others. Yeah, um because I'm looking at the different type vendors. Now these these vendors [0:22:46, 0:23:06]: that are coming, are they coming to offer their time or they're paying to be a part of this court? They're coming to offer their time. Uh-huh. They're actually coming for that face-to-face interaction with 200 participants to to draw a business. [0:23:06, 0:23:26]: Blessings. Okay. Thank you for the presentation. But we're still the we need the motion simply domain, I believe. Right. I make a motion, uh, Mayor, to allow me or the results to approve a resolution for me to use the lower level of the mural and on November the seventeenth nine four for housing form um with the amount. [0:23:26, 0:23:46]: Absolutely, thank you. Okay. Uh we'll now go to our public hearing and um council consideration to amend chapter twelve of the city's code as it relates to [0:23:46, 0:24:06]: Parking requirements for development small foods. We are moving forward tonight in amendment of chapter 12. This is a public hearing. So a staff has brought [0:24:06, 0:24:17]: for me tonight is consideration to repeal and replace chapter 12 off-street parking road for the entire city side bridge. [0:24:19, 0:24:39]: I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm assuming that these changes already take into reflect the the survey results or or not? Well these are different. These are like if colds come in or a new restaurant or new office building, what are the parking requirements in terms of calculations? Okay. [0:24:39, 0:24:50]: parking spaces and upgrade coin piece. So these are more your development standards for parking for instances. Alright council any questions? [0:24:51, 0:25:11]: Uh as far as this is concerned, uh these are standards that you thought were very important to the public to dad to I kinda like we kinda tell everybody why is it that we thought that these were so important that sometimes kinda help everybody understand where we're going with this particular measure. So your existing parking standards do not [0:25:11, 0:25:31]: Um accurately allows them to calculate for varying uses. So let's just say you have a strip mall, and when that strip mall is built, they don't know where the tenants are going to be, right? And so they estimate based on the number of parks that they think this would need. However, [0:25:31, 0:25:51]: A restaurant may take up two different corners, and because restaurants, because the type of uses that they are, require more parking, say that next door you have a dentist office. And our current parking orders doesn't allow that. So this allows us to add. [0:25:51, 0:26:11]: Actually deal with the use within existing structures and structures that are coming to make the correct calculation based on parking that is actually adequate to make sure that businesses have enough offering. And I guess the follow-up question is that now we're gonna go uh previously missed down with the one thirty eight overlay. [0:26:11, 0:26:24]: where we uh develop a more urban look and where the parking would be in the rear. Is this addressed at all or is that at all itself or something? This does not dress location, it addresses numbers. [0:26:25, 0:26:26]: Any other questions for the answer? [0:26:28, 0:26:48]: Alright on that note this is open this is a public hearing so I need to open this up. So uh open up this uh public hearing for any public comments uh about this particular uh revision of chapter twelve all street parking and loading. So I'll start at my left. Anybody over here pop uh comments full? Clarifications. No, we we're don't know what else on the room that wants to speak. [0:26:48, 0:27:08]: But there would be two. Yeah, we have a total of four different public interns. This is the first of four. Right, so this was not this not the worst. This is first of all. I just want to make sure that they understand. Okay, first of all. Anybody uh anybody over here for four? Uh wanna make comments four. Okay. [0:27:07, 0:27:27]: Here one of the comments for all right. That will hear if we want comments against. Alright? And on that note, then you need a a motion to accept these uh this particular update. I'll make a motion to [0:27:27, 0:27:47]: Uh loomful would be the recommendation of all three parts. Second. Second, second. There you go. Second. All right. Any further discussion with council? If not all in favor, please any take. Okay. Thank you. All right. Now the public hearing we will continue from a previous council meeting, council consideration to amend the city's [0:27:47, 0:28:07]: Parking orders as it relates to on-street parking. Ms. More, please. Yes, sir. Mayor Council, as you know that you asked that we actually put our survey into the community. This deals with subdivision parking within HOAs. We have begun to get responses, and I've included in all your packages the results. What's that was [0:28:07, 0:28:27]: Like to do is to keep this open uh for a period of time to be determined that you see fit so that we can actually make sure that we capture all the responses that we can capture as it relates to this particular issue. Um I was kind of concerned. [0:28:27, 0:28:47]: It was out of 27,000 residents. We only had like 300 and something that responded. Um, so I would definitely like to keep this open. Um, however, I do want to do this as the residents of we had a lot to have already come forth to go ahead and directly um you know take [0:28:47, 0:29:07]: take care of you know their concerns. Um so but but I definitely don't want to close this. 300 out of 27,000 is just not enough um for awareness for everyone. But those specific um subdivisions that have come forth, we definitely need to make them a priority um in their on their in their [0:29:07, 0:29:27]: Right. And one thing I want to add is that we're basing this off of root tops, and I think the calculation that we came up with was there was 4200 roots. Um that it could be. Okay, yeah. So now you the total yeah, because you have multiple. [0:29:27, 0:29:47]: people in home well it does have it it does not bring into your apartments uh well I'm gonna say the twenty seven thousand takes in individuals who live everywhere and so you just try to we just need an estimate based on the number of rooftops that you have is also ones that are actually impacted by driveway. Okay. [0:29:47, 0:30:07]: Yes, sir, go ahead. Uh with all due respect to my counsel. We've been waiting three years on this. And you know, we never if we had three hundred responses, that's about uh two hundred and ninety more than we get on most subjects. Most times we have about ten people or less come to the podium to speak. [0:30:07, 0:30:27]: On what were the concerns that we brought forward, and we've made the decision. We've been dealing with this process here for about three years. We got residents who are extremely frustrated with the slow pace of this process. We promised residents at our last meeting when we delayed. [0:30:27, 0:30:47]: this that we're gonna do act we're gonna have action this time and now we're asking for even more time when I got residents in my neighborhood going at each other on Facebook because people are parking on the street and we have commotions going on. I have talking to the residents of Falling Waters and other communities. [0:30:47, 0:31:07]: They need something done. They're going out acting upon their own because we haven't been able to resolve this issue in an expeditious fashion. Now, with three, now, I just don't know. All of us, I think most some of us got 300 votes total to get a [0:31:07, 0:31:27]: Elected. So I don't know how many more we want in order to make this decision because we put it out on Facebook, we put it out on the web. Folks are just gonna do what they're going to do. It would be great if we could get twenty seven thousand people to vote in the election, but basically I think maybe we got about three thousand votes total. [0:31:27, 0:31:47]: To get all of us elected completely. So I want to see us move forward with with making a decision so we can go forward. We had 300 people who took their time and then we've already extended it one time before. So this will be the second extension. We extended it. [0:31:47, 0:32:07]: because to give more people an opportunity to speak. We've given them more time to speak. That brought the number up from uh maybe what, I don't know what the what was the original number. Right, we went from 187 to 300. So we still didn't we we didn't move the needle a lot. [0:32:07, 0:32:11]: [1931.7, 1951.7]: Right? Over at Terry Strickland. And when we first started talking about this in July, we had the residents from falling waters here. We promised them by August 1st we were going to come back with some results. It's the end of August now. And we have not moved forward with this idea. So I'm asking this council uh and and I think you [0:32:31, 0:32:51]: heard someone speak for volume was that they're ready for some action and uh I'd like to see that. Okay. Number three fifty three. One second. Three fifty three and and this bottom. I just want to do my follow up. Um and since you're saying the forty two hundred I just want to be clear. Um I just want to make sure [0:32:51, 0:33:11]: And Councilman, for your um all due respect, but you said three years, but we just now had staff to start acting upon this, putting it out there. Um so going from July to now, which is August, to me is just short notice for all of 4200 um residents. But again, I stated for those. [0:33:11, 0:33:31]: Those that already have come forth, we need to definitely make that a priority to um to them. Um so that way they won't keep coming back feeling like they're just being unheard. So I don't want me, uh don't take me saying I don't want us to enforce because they have already come forth, but I still want to leave this. [0:33:31, 0:33:51]: open because if we do something on a two months or three months notice for everyone else, it's to me it's just a shocking type phase to me. Um but just keep it going so that way we can get more input. If that is a possibility, is that this more that we can continue with that. But again, all [0:33:51, 0:34:11]: Waters, your subdivision, anybody else's subdivision that has come forth, yes, that is a priority for them. But I just don't want to close this and just you know say that's it until we hear from more residents. And I feel that we can even with our PIO, if we can get out more information, um, we just need to do that. [0:34:11, 0:34:31]: Um so that's why I am so trust me I'm not shutting fall waters or anyone out, that is a priority and we can do that um in trouble. Yeah, I I was with you know when I was over with uh when we got into the park we were talking about uh extended park and I had concerns with that because [0:34:31, 0:34:41]: extended parking they can get a permit to park for nine up to 90 days and they can get a uh an extension even permit on even on that. [0:34:41, 0:35:01]: I I'm trying to could you elaborate on like this for a single family home if we could get through that it's kind of interesting. Discussions around those were care for the elderly or uh someone with illness or someone that have an attorney where there's actually a doctor recognition uh doctor documentation basically says for a short period of time. [0:35:01, 0:35:21]: they need some assistance from a mother or a father that's in town or from a newer son that's in town to provide short-term assistance until some display. Those were the discussions that were raised and that's why they are in a particular case. It wasn't supposed to be how many in the discussions I think everyone was under this function. [0:35:21, 0:35:41]: That no one will give you some of these. Do you know that this is going to happen? But that's the genesis of why people ask to have those types of short-term passes to actually assist. Short-term assistance. [0:35:41, 0:36:01]: circumstances. Only thing you have is is this which to me is is is is open for anybody. And and uh I I would like us to revisit this portion because that portion in itself uh which portion is that is the last one that was extended parking number seven is the last one. [0:36:01, 0:36:01]: [2165.7, 2168.9]: I just want everybody to look at that one if they can do that. [0:36:09, 0:36:29]: Yeah. Yes, ma'am. What I want to say, please. Number seven you said? No. Seven. This is the number six committee. Seven says emergency waiver commits. You're talking about the item that's in your book, the under tab seven. Under tab seven, where it talks about different positions. [0:36:29, 0:36:49]: The provisions are more restricted parking at the bottom. That's everybody parking right. Okay, that's kind of different. I thought you were speaking from the people actually surveyed. Right, that's what I'm talking about. So I thought you were coming from this document, and that's all. This is the actual results of the surveys that were online in terms of how they [0:36:49, 0:36:55]: And although there were [0:36:55, 0:36:58]: Two public years. [0:36:59, 0:37:04]: Number eight or number seven. [0:37:07, 0:37:16]: What it is looks like this. Yeah, I think it might. [0:37:17, 0:37:37]: I'm sorry. Um so I I was I was speaking in reference to these results. Um and on here is some of the more specific questions that they responded to. [0:37:37, 0:37:42]: This speaking more to the survey, what I was speaking to was more of an action. [0:37:43, 0:38:01]: Okay, well staffs for us, for us, we have not brought back an act, I as staff, and our folks have not presented a recommendation on the results of the survey. The only thing that I presented to you were the survey results and to talk about those results. [0:38:03, 0:38:20]: That's the only thing that I'm prepared to talk to you about. Which is 16 questions. And those 16 questions actually show you what the responses were and how they're trending. And then if you said that you want to stop [0:38:20, 0:38:35]: Then we would go back and then we would draft some recommendations based on these results. Basically saying these are what your results are saying. And based on that, you know, here are some possible options for policy adoption. [0:38:37, 0:38:57]: Yes, that was already. That was what I I needed clarification, Councilman Robson, on when you made a request to leave it open. I didn't know if you were referring to the item or the survey. The survey. And that is something that we will address after we have the public hearing open and closed. We'll come back to address that. We can't do that now until you come up. [0:38:57, 0:39:17]: Um, I was gonna come back to that. Right. Okay. So what I was trying to get from you tonight, whether or not you wanted staff to come out with recommendations based on these results, if you want us to not bring any results back until a later date, or if you want us to bring back a recommendation that deals with some things now. [0:39:17, 0:39:37]: And some things later. But the only thing that I'm presenting here tonight are the actual results. Okay. I think that we can probably further do that after we hear some public comments for some reason. So we probably need to do next. Unless we got some initial comments right now. If not, then I'll go to the public comments. Yes, sir. Uh I do I looked at the survey results, and I think what [0:39:37, 0:39:57]: What we all do is there'll be a compilation of what we saw on the survey, and there'll be a compilation of what we've experienced out in the community. The survey results kind of support what we've already seen. I think that the only concern that I had is that something the record support would be to kind of exempt. [0:39:57, 0:40:17]: the weekends. I wouldn't be for that because that's when the that's when most of the problem is going on, which is people have parties and what have you, and they don't um they do not uh have the permits. And I'm I'm in support of uh allowing those gatherings as long as they have a permit and I think we had a very good [0:40:17, 0:40:37]: Example uh at the town hall, which is you would give each resident uh a couple of passes if they had folks who needed to park out there temporarily, but not to exempt the weekend, which is the which is the driving factor, because I know in my own particular neighborhood, we have this neighborhood has party. [0:40:37, 0:40:57]: And they invite it seems like half of the city and they're parking on everywhere. You can bar hardly get to the neighborhood and then uh you know, I wouldn't want that to be exempted for the weekend when that is going on. So that would be my concern. But the survey results, ninety percent of the survey results I'm out. [0:40:57, 0:41:17]: Absolutely okay with it. Okay with the no parking another twenty seven feet, that's absolutely perfect. It should be that way. And as we get wider, like we go to Monarch Village where we have thirty-four foot wide streets, we can park on both sides, emergency vehicles can get in. So the survey results confirm what we already know. And we've been out in [0:41:17, 0:41:37]: this community if you came to this office like we all did when I'm talking to the public I have heard this much stuff to hear about this parking and I'm tired of hearing about it and thus not taking any action on it. So I want this council to to make some decisions on things that we're about to do because you know [0:41:37, 0:41:57]: So uh we we this council got it 90 days ago or 90 days ago. I've been pushing it for it since 2016. But at the same time, we this has been going on in the city for three years now. So we are in the process of we have [0:41:57, 0:42:17]: to fix what has been going on. And I think like I said, you would hear what like I said, I had two neighbors that got into it over the weekend. The police were called into the situation because it got heated. Things were going back and forth on social media. You know, this almost and it ended up being a physical situation that we just don't want to [0:42:17, 0:42:37]: the city because they were frustrated with us because they had complained to the city, they had complained to the HOA, and nothing was being done and the situation escalated between the two parties in my own community. Yes sir. Go ahead. [0:42:37, 0:42:41]: I I just want to say that uh one of the things that since I've been on the council [0:42:42, 0:42:44]: That's all we've been doing is fixing. [0:42:45, 0:43:05]: Since I've been on this council and so I don't want us to ever rush into something because when we fix it, I want it to be something that we can build on rather than what we have to do now, tear down and start open. And so when I look at this because I'm looking at other actions in here that it could be produced of councilman uh I was down to set twenty seven people. [0:43:05, 0:43:25]: Looking at an action said that's the twenty-nine feet. So I I think we need to to call just kind of calling out all the information and really come up because he said ninety percent. I want everything to be a hundred percent. We all in agreement one hundred percent on whatever we move forward with. That's to give an extension on gathering more information because we [0:43:24, 0:43:44]: We need a round table on this again because when we fix it, we need to fix it in a way that we build on it. And that's been and that's been my uh that's my opinion of it because I'm looking at I'm looking at conflicting issues because each each subdivision has its own dynamics. And I would never want when we [0:43:44, 0:43:52]: We talk about weekends when people are gathering out the church, when they're gathering, we're coming into football seasons. [0:43:52, 0:44:12]: Okay, you can't you can't come to my house and watch a game and you gotta park on the street, you didn't get a permit. We have to make sure that whatever moves we make, it's free it's it's still we're looking at the citizens and not making it difficult for them to live their lives in a way with some normal take away the normalities of life to just be able to come watch a football game and be able to gather up to church for dinner. [0:44:12, 0:44:24]: get a permit. We don't want government to be too big to a point where it's disrupted the people's lives. So I want us to examine those areas because I wouldn't want to put that on Henry County PD. [0:44:25, 0:44:37]: Uh Mr. Thomas. Yeah, um I I partially agree with everything that's been said. A couple of clarifications and this relates to uh sub degree, correct? [0:44:38, 0:44:57]: So, and I was a part of the process. I attended several of the uh community meetings. So I guess my question is just listen to the comments. And I know the city did a great job in putting this out to the community. And all we can do is expect to return it back. So if we [0:44:58, 0:45:18]: go forward and put this back out again, uh what would we do different or would we just allow the time to allow for additional information to come in? And I know you just from a staff point of view that you put it out there. We did everything that we could do to try to get that response back. [0:45:18, 0:45:38]: And what we got with what we got. So just based on this and if we um decide to extend it, what would you do differently? I think the only thing we could do is put a personal dear Mr. Thomas letter in your mailbox in a envelope that says this is a very urgent matter. You know, read this letter and please know [0:45:38, 0:45:56]: to the website and do it. I mean other than addressing a personal letter to everybody, I I mean everything else we've pretty much done. But I think one of the things that we may be able to do to allow the best of both worlds to help follow water, I think the issue is overnight parking. [0:45:56, 0:46:02]: I think that's the biggest error. So I think that while we continue to gather [0:46:02, 0:46:06]: data as it relates to parking overall. [0:46:06, 0:46:26]: We address it overnight parking because I think that is what's a lot of people really having issues with, like follow more. And I think that by moving ahead and putting out the RFP for the towing summer, a towing company uh that allows for overnight vehicles when they should not be parked, you don't have to call them records. [0:46:26, 0:46:46]: Companies will always drive and they they drive well enough to know that you park there overnight. And I think addressing the overnight parking situation immediately might be uh a quick way to address some of the more immediate needs that are in following wardens because we're talking to the person following the wards. It is someone that's kind of operating. [0:46:46, 0:47:06]: business and the people coming after five and they park there and they're there all night. And then the next day they get up, they go to work, they come back after five, they park there all night. So that's just a suggestion that might help uh to just address the overnight park for a time. Well that I I would agree with that as well. [0:47:06, 0:47:26]: overnight parking. Many of you know I attended a funeral today and after repeat repass folks went to the home and had cars everywhere. So I really think that every household will eventually get caught up in this as far as having street cars [0:47:26, 0:47:46]: Cars uh on the street near that home. So I think you're correct as well as the issues over that park. All right. I would like to open up the public hearing and then we'll get back to the council comment. So public hearing, I'll open it up. It's a continuation, council for council consideration to amend the parking orders in relationship on street parking audiences. [0:47:46, 0:47:56]: citizens you've been listening to some of the uh dialogue so anybody has comments over here for the the issue of parking street anybody over here for [0:47:57, 0:48:01]: Anyone over here? Four. Yeah, four. I like to think. You want you have a comment you want to make? Yeah. [0:48:02, 0:48:03]: Please just come forward, please. [0:48:08, 0:48:10]: Yeah, to the time. [0:48:15, 0:48:18]: Uh eight people. [0:48:19, 0:48:28]: I heard about this a while back when it first report you know the attention. I thank you for what I called you because you comments and concerns in my own. [0:48:29, 0:48:46]: A lot of these houses are built so close to one another. Even if you have somebody open, maybe for dinner or breakfast or something like that, you might end up with somebody who zone in the first place because some of these houses and some of these communities are built. [0:48:47, 0:49:07]: Is it fair that someone would have to be penalized because the race on the houses are built is so close together that you accidentally parked there? Uh is it wrong for them to expect some kind of a citation or a a warning to be put in there? [0:49:07, 0:49:19]: in their um in their mural, in on their car, uh because they went over a little bit because of the way some of these houses are built. But I think I I don't think it's right. [0:49:20, 0:49:31]: that something like this will take place because when you were overlaying in your car or or your family's overlaying in your in your car, in somebody else's yard, it's just something that can't be helped. [0:49:31, 0:49:33]: A lot of the houses are kind of close. [0:49:34, 0:49:44]: And I've seen this when I got out and passed out flyers on behalf of the attention. The house looked really closed. And you can't help but depart. [0:49:45, 0:49:47]: on the street, the house only how the limiting place. [0:49:48, 0:49:50]: So are y'all gonna penalize people? [0:49:51, 0:49:53]: Because the way the house we are built. [0:49:53, 0:49:56]: And they have a little way apart. [0:49:56, 0:49:59]: Or y'all gonna allow me to part there in peace? [0:50:00, 0:50:01]: That that's the question I'm wondering. [0:50:02, 0:50:13]: Well thank you for your comments. I appreciate it. Are we are we when we do are we doing so you time folks or does that make it? No, no, no, no. Okay, okay. I just wanted to clarify it sounds like you're not in favor, but rather opposed. [0:50:14, 0:50:24]: I'm opposed to the other thing. Yeah, but I was I was looking for a favor. I was well I was looking for favorable. I kind of do but then I don't because that's a problem when when you're parking. Alright. And somebody's [0:50:25, 0:50:39]: hanging out somebody else's property. Okay. But definitely I mean I'm I'm sorry about it. No, no, thank you. I appreciate it. I'm not perfect. No problems. Anyone else on over this side four? Four? Or is it four? [0:50:39, 0:50:48]: Or for the the parking uh the the parking for the penalty of excuse me. For the penalty of parking on the street? [0:50:48, 0:51:03]: Well yeah okay so one second, I'll come in. So no else for anywhere we have a guest parking on the street where we have surveys uh you already spoke. Okay, but guests. I'll guess that is can you come to the polling back? Please give you name matters, please. [0:51:05, 0:51:25]: But the pleasure before we get to the city. Well, I mean, issue in favor of the ordinary. Well, yeah, yeah, okay for the ordinary floor. Right. Yes. Okay. My name is Elba Sherwood. I live in Falling Waters. Okay. My address is one seven four MFL Place. [0:51:25, 0:51:26]: Okay. [0:51:28, 0:51:45]: Um my neighborhood is very active and I am on the board of the uh HOA and so our HOA has uh I attended and I'll back up a little step and say I attended your [0:51:45, 0:51:59]: open house for HOAs uh or your public meeting I learned there that with your blessing that the HOA could move forward with their own [0:51:59, 0:52:19]: Whatever their rules are, move forward with the HOA rules and and continue uh con controlling the neighborhood as it's written and filed with the Secretary of State's office for our particular neighborhood. So, um [0:52:19, 0:52:24]: With that, I then began to call um [0:52:24, 0:52:37]: I wanted a towing company that worked 24 hours because our problem is after 6 p.m. I wanted a towing company that had its own towed yard. [0:52:37, 0:52:52]: so that uh we would know where the car is going or at least the homeowner would know where the car is going. I wanted a tow company that would put signs in our neighborhood that says they are the tow company and they have a phone number. [0:52:53, 0:52:55]: Posted so that the [0:52:55, 0:53:01]: homeowner that's missing their car could know where their car has gone to. [0:53:01, 0:53:20]: Um so I um found the company that met all those and I wanted customer service from that company. So I called about six. I finally got one that I agreed on the customer service and the tow owner said, I'm sorry. [0:53:21, 0:53:22]: But guess what? [0:53:23, 0:53:36]: The Georgia law will not allow a tub company to pick up a car without a police officer ticketing that car or a judge standing there saying that car can be moved. [0:53:38, 0:53:48]: Well, I felt like I was right back in the same bucket again of you know, if I can't get a police person to come it [0:53:48, 0:53:53]: since there's seven or ten at night to come move this over our ticket. [0:53:53, 0:53:57]: Because then we in my particular street my stream [0:53:57, 0:53:59]: Is in here town. [0:54:00, 0:54:06]: Another street in my neighborhood is in the city of Scott Bridge, but we're all within our HOA. [0:54:07, 0:54:11]: So, um I called the police department found out. [0:54:12, 0:54:15]: That Henry County police. [0:54:15, 0:54:20]: does not ticket cars for parking on the street because there's no directive [0:54:21, 0:54:21]: From [0:54:22, 0:54:23]: Gary County Council. [0:54:24, 0:54:26]: The tells End I can go take it a cough. [0:54:27, 0:54:31]: So then I contacted the um [0:54:32, 0:54:34]: Stock bridge police and they're not. [0:54:35, 0:54:40]: authorized to take it cars yet because this council hasn't told them they can. [0:54:41, 0:54:44]: So then I um [0:54:45, 0:54:48]: contacted the p the club company again and I said [0:54:48, 0:54:58]: Look, um, couldn't you please help our neighborhood out? These are the rules that I've followed. These are the rules our HOA has followed. [0:54:58, 0:55:02]: We own your park ticketing overnight parking. [0:55:03, 0:55:12]: If you have a yard man cleaning your yard and he's on your s uh in front of your house, we're not touching that man. If you've got a neighborhood [0:55:13, 0:55:15]: Birthday party for somebody. [0:55:15, 0:55:22]: and it's two or three hours in your home, we're not touching you either. But if you've got an overnight um [0:55:23, 0:55:24]: Um [0:55:26, 0:55:26]: Whatever. [0:55:27, 0:55:29]: uh uh any kind of overnight something. [0:55:29, 0:55:41]: Park at our swimming pool parking lot in our neighborhood and somebody in that within that neighborhood of that house, if you've got a guest from out of town [0:55:41, 0:55:51]: Your guests could park in your driveway and you could park at our parking at our twin blue parking lot. So we're offering and we are [0:55:51, 0:55:55]: um providing answers to the folks that are saying [0:55:56, 0:56:16]: We've got an overnight person and I will tell you that half the neighborhood uh has double wide driveways in our subdivision and half of our homes have a single wide driveway in our subdivision. So the uh problem really affects [0:56:16, 0:56:29]: the folks with a single wide driveway and we're suggesting within our um homeowners that they put their guests at the pool or even they park at the pool. So backed up to [0:56:29, 0:56:37]: My phone call again with um snow company that was pleasant and I said please give me some direction [0:56:38, 0:56:42]: Let's tell me some uh top company that will [0:56:43, 0:56:57]: I guess break the law and go ahead and take our time, take our business. And he did. He gave me four names of tow companies that will tow in this area without a police ticket. [0:56:58, 0:57:02]: And so our subdivision did sign a contract. [0:57:02, 0:57:10]: Saturday morning at 845 Hallelujah with a tub company that's called Wheeler. [0:57:11, 0:57:15]: Wheeler has agreed that they will um [0:57:15, 0:57:19]: Pick up the cars to their overnight parking now. [0:57:20, 0:57:21]: Our age away. [0:57:21, 0:57:22]: Both. [0:57:22, 0:57:25]: has a retired police officer on the board. [0:57:25, 0:57:45]: So the board has designated that one police retired police officer to be the contact person. So he would drive the neighborhood um a at the evening hour and then he drives the neighborhood at six o'clock on his way to work, his other job. [0:57:46, 0:57:47]: If he [0:57:47, 0:57:49]: Still has the same [0:57:49, 0:57:53]: Tag number of the same car that's been there overnight. [0:57:53, 0:57:58]: That car is gonna get a a visit from wheeler. [0:57:59, 0:58:04]: And and it's already happened in I think in the last three days. [0:58:06, 0:58:22]: Okay, thank you. Um appreciate your comments. Uh okay, so any other comments for the citizens that are here one we have have not opposed a public hearing. Okay, it's now spoken. Any further further comments from the council? [0:58:24, 0:58:44]: Because I think what's also before us is whether or not we would want to uh spend um spend the the surveys one, whether or not we would agree to do that as as all at all. And then any other specific things that we would want to give guidance to the staff in reference or think we want to fine-tune in that process. [0:58:44, 0:59:00]: So it's a couple different things here is what I understand. So uh overnight articles. Overnight particles are for one of those issues that's alright, please. Now this is this is the issue we just heard. [0:59:00, 0:59:20]: The testimony was more right. But it's not it's it's not just in her community. I'm telling you that there are citizens fed up in all of the communities around me, including my own, that want something done. This community, I spoke to a resident who I will not name, that told me [0:59:20, 0:59:40]: Me today that they've really given up on us. They've been waiting so long is that they got tired of waiting on us and they implemented some things in Fallen Waters and other communities. I don't want to go back to tell my community tonight we we we still didn't do anything because they look [0:59:40, 1:00:00]: Looking at me and saying, Mr. Alexander, you told us the last time we were gonna do something. You told us six months ago we were gonna do something. You told us uh to wait to the end, you told us it was gonna be the first of August, that we had town hall. Now you're telling me August 1st, August 1st came, we still don't have it. [1:00:00, 1:00:12]: Now you told us, you know, just give you a little bit more time and we might be able to help you and come to a problem. We got residents that are going to this level where the police have told them. [1:00:13, 1:00:17]: We can't give out tickets to find their own company. They doing our job. [1:00:18, 1:00:38]: This is our job. We are failing them, and I'm telling you, we're losing votes because folks are losing confidence in our ability to move forward with an action. We do with all due respect to uh the the the great you're making a great presentation. The problem the problem in some [1:00:38, 1:00:58]: Communities is overnight, but there are other problems in the community, and I say this and I say this again. I don't want my Super Bowl pause to cause nobody they like. And that's what this is about. I'm not talking about a church gathering and all the above. There's an appropriate way to do something. If the emergency, if you gotta get [1:00:58, 1:01:18]: A permit for your party, the emergency crew already knows their cars are going to be there before they arrive. Because when they call the dispatch, the party's registered, they're already there, everybody knows they're supposed to be there, and that's what it is. Otherwise, the crew shows up, your Super Bowl party is going to be there. [1:01:18, 1:01:38]: Going on for God's sake, maybe a funeral or whatever is going on afterward, repair afterwards. They still can't get through. But I want to show deference to the person that passed away. I want to show deference to the Super Bowl party. Yeah, I want to show deference to all of that. But these officers and the EMS will tell you everyone. [1:01:38, 1:01:58]: Every day of the week. 10 seconds or 15 seconds or a minute is a difference between someone like living and dying. I don't want my Super Bowl party to cost somebody their life for any other gathering like that. And I'm just imploring this council to move forward because if it [1:01:58, 1:02:18]: If it was just my community, if it was just fallen waters, if it was just the terrorists at Eagles Landing, if it was just the Magnolias at Eagles Landing, if it was just Winston, it's a numerous community, and they're waiting on us to answer it. Okay, got it. It's a council decision, as you well know. So it's a council decision, so the council does. [1:02:18, 1:02:38]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead. So I have a question. So this is a ordinance. And I guess I would say in reference to with Henry County, what is the with a service delivery service? What do I mean where is this at? This is an ordinance. Um so help me out with that. Are they gonna enforce this? [1:02:38, 1:02:58]: Um, I understand that anytime you dial nine one one and there's some s you know, altercation or something, of course we're gonna deal with that. But I mean, is this something that we have, I mean, with our ordinance?'Cause they're not enforcing a lot of those, I understand. So where are we with that in a sense? [1:02:58, 1:03:18]: There are a couple things. One, as we mentioned before, there are problems with our existing ordinance and that need to be fixed, and hopefully when we're at that point we'll adopt the revised ordinance that clarifies what they can and can't do. There's still the issue with whether or not Henry County PD will enforce our local ordinance. [1:03:18, 1:03:30]: as it relates to this. I'm not sure we'll until we resolve that issue with the police department in a new agreement, I'm not sure if they will be able to help. [1:03:30, 1:03:45]: But if we have an ordinance in place and we're we're we're contracted with a tolling company, they can tell whether the police are there or not. As long as they're authorized to tell under our ordinance and there's a procedure in place protecting the car owners ultimately. [1:03:45, 1:04:05]: They know where to get their car, you know, there are limitations on the fees, it won't be excessively charged, but they will have to go pick up their car somewhere else because we told them that that's if they violated the ordinance. Um so I'm you know, for the time being, until we work out the secret police department, you know, I'm I'm not relying. [1:04:05, 1:04:25]: So the president mentioned she went through and said what towing companies, but she named one that basically said they'll do it. So what you heard what she said, what do we say about that about allowing as a city, allowing people [1:04:25, 1:04:45]: Who are not authorized? We have an RP out there for tolling from the public library. [1:04:45, 1:04:59]: But if these roads are public roads, they've been dedicated to the city by ordinance we can provide for towing and that's our that's again once we get to that point that's what we expect will happen. [1:05:01, 1:05:21]: Thank you, sir. Mayor. Um, one of the things I I just don't want us to get too too far in the weeds with this. I don't want to get to talking about what folks we're losing. I don't know what area was passed under that, but I see great results on what we're trying to push forward in the city. And I've been on this council, I've been living in this stock recent too. [1:05:21, 1:05:41]: 2006. I get to see one person publishing the news that they die because they couldn't get down the street. But we do have a problem. We need to resolve the problem, the solid problem. And so the thing that we have to do is understand that I've seen many cars towed, many cars booted, not an officer around. This can be, we don't need police officers to [1:05:41, 1:05:45]: be around this as a confrontation that becomes another issue. [1:05:45, 1:05:58]: We have the right to do these things and we'll put these things in place. If you're inadvertently putting information out to the public, then that's for you to deal with. But as the city as a whole, I noticed since I've been here, we've just started this process. [1:05:59, 1:06:03]: This process has not been ongoing for the time, going on my third year here in the city council. [1:06:04, 1:06:15]: So if we're in the bringing and putting information out, then we suffer those consequences from the neighborhood. But if we're putting this information out as it comes into us, just like we're doing right now, then we go through this process. [1:06:15, 1:06:21]: We go through the process and we make sure that when we make the changes, those changes are a foundation to build on. [1:06:22, 1:06:24]: That's that that's what it is. [1:06:24, 1:06:28]: You know, we can't s sit here and start to go into other areas. Let's just [1:06:29, 1:06:31]: Focus on this, we'll be here all night. [1:06:33, 1:06:51]: If we're gonna if we're gonna let the process proceed and go further, then let's go ahead and vote on that and let's let's finish the top the the the the uh the the meeting, the public hearing and let's move on with this. We we're spending too much time on this because if you inadvertently put information out in the public, you probably just need to stop doing that. [1:06:51, 1:06:56]: Mr. Thomas Queens. Um two issues that resonate with me. [1:06:56, 1:07:16]: Um whether we close it, open it back up for additional information. Honestly, I I think the staff has done all they can do. Here she shows us that people that come to our meeting, respond to things put out, what we get is what we get. So I'm satisfied with that. [1:07:16, 1:07:36]: back to Mr. Blount's earlier um issue about I think it was something like the street side. Uh but I'm in favor of moving forward with it rather than keeping it open. But I I do want to address Mr. Blount's issue. That's the only thing that's sticking that and if you [1:07:36, 1:07:56]: could just reiterate that because I am ready to vote. But I will say now though I am ready to move forward and not extend it as well to allow other citizens to participate because we probably don't get the same thing. But I do want to make sure I understand that issue that you raised before I make my vote. [1:07:56, 1:08:16]: Well one of the things the greatest piece go ahead. And until we are able to formulate this information and then put it in document form to us on the actions that are going to be taken, then how can we inadvertently make it [1:08:16, 1:08:36]: Decision now without even knowing that. Without even just we we've got things in discussion right now pertaining to this. So we've got to look at the street side. We gotta look at what side doesn't fit all. So how does a city we formulate that? How do we formulate all of this stuff? When we talk about PD, we don't need PD right enough when homeowners can have [1:08:36, 1:08:56]: their own association, even with we're right now contracting the uh touring touring foundation. So this is what I'm talking about. So Mr. May uh Mr. Blood then what would your recommendation be to the staff to correct the issue of concern that you have? My recommendation would be that we take this formula and we have more meetings. [1:08:56, 1:09:03]: We put more information out because I don't want to I personally want to prematurely do an action that will lay another foundation. [1:09:04, 1:09:24]: That will not be successful because no matter what we do, we're going to hear some pros and we're going to hear some cons. But at this point, we need to have I think we need more than just this. Okay, let me I'm trying to wrap this up myself. So are you recommending then that we uh continue the process, let it stay open? [1:09:24, 1:09:38]: and get more input. I I I recommend we continue the process even more. And get more input. Yeah, we need to not close it, but to leave it open to get more input. I recommend we leave it open to get more information. [1:09:38, 1:09:58]: And let me just again add I think we can follow you both if that makes sense. I think we can leave it open and how do you address the most immediate issue, which is overnight parking. Okay. And I think what may help is that if we um you identify [1:09:58, 1:10:18]: The parameters of the RFP to basically say for a toll company on any of our streets within the public live way if a car is there more than thirty-six hours from these period of time or whatever period of time that they have the right to stop. Uh I think that would answer some of that. [1:10:18, 1:10:38]: While at the same time, we send out another numbers to say you may notice. City of Stockbridge has in contract. This is what's going to happen. You better weigh in now on the rest of this survey. Because this is the only thing that we've done. And that may get everyone to actually start, to actually go in and participate. [1:10:38, 1:10:58]: Well I don't know but one second. I'll I'll get to that in a second. Okay, we say thirty six hours, that's that's more than twenty that's more than a day. Total number, okay. So in all nationality it's you uh and being on the example that was given to us by the citizen, it's just over simply overnight, such as you you maybe stop it uh maybe start period starts at ten and ends [1:10:58, 1:11:18]: six in the morning. You see, so that's supposed that's eight hours in that aspect. I mean, so if we're going to go down this road and and look at that and look at extending in an RFP process and we got that going on and reconfirmed for that, but we need to have it nailed down on the hours as well. Yeah. The RFP is gonna have to be just as we just don't want to start okay. [1:11:18, 1:11:22]: One second can ask if Mr. Thomas Please grew. [1:11:22, 1:11:42]: You asked me. No, I would just ask if we decided to let it stay open to get additional uh comment, how long would we well if you're asking me I say thirty days if you decided that's it up to the council. That's what I think. I would go ahead and be more that's what I think. In that aspect if we're gonna do that, yes, uh then that's good. I just think clarification, Mr. [1:11:42, 1:11:56]: that the survey remain open and also this item be continued and then my next question is for you Camilla if this is going to be presented at the next planning commission meeting if that is the case. [1:11:57, 1:12:17]: Well, I think we probably won't present to the planning commission until it's close, which means that that meeting will have to occur before anything comes back. So if if y'all agree to keep it open of whatever time period there is or whatever that date is, we will collect the data, put it in a report, and then maybe get some recommendations based. [1:12:17, 1:12:37]: I asked that customer cut that we have to put out a notice on the public hand, so I need to know specifically when the item is going to be heard. So 30 days, y'all agree to 30 days. That's just how I thought you decide whether that's good or not. [1:12:37, 1:12:37]: Okay. [1:12:38, 1:12:58]: I during your process is 30 days adequate to get more data for what you need to do. If you are agreeable to us then we want personalized letters to everybody personally in a letter saying City Stockton's is getting ready to start tolling, so you may [1:12:58, 1:13:18]: want to go in and do the survey to find out what's happening. Uh then I think that we can do that and get those out rather quickly, probably by next week to everybody, to all the very next, and then see what if it bumps up that and then at the end of 30 days. We guys want to come on week from [1:13:18, 1:13:38]: 30 days, whatever you formulate, can we also get the recommendations with this instead of the formula that was surveyed? Yes, sir. And I'm fine with that because we can't just I don't want just the formula, I want the recommendations pertaining to the bring back the survey and results with some recommendations at that. [1:13:38, 1:13:58]: would be what you actually suggest and wouldn't you wouldn't would the council be accepting to focus in on overnight parking for uh if you're overnight and you seem like you're more than eight hours over for the the night frame time frame will we be willing to uh have that at that particular point in the company [1:13:58, 1:14:18]: That excuse our people wins a contract to go outside doing that, even though you extended this. Is that something that we wouldn't deal with simultaneously? Yeah. Mr. Mayor. And next? I'm in agreement with this because for one, everybody's not on social media. And by you sending out a notice to the resident. [1:14:18, 1:14:38]: That's informing them instead of just everybody's not on social media. My seniors are not, and they have their grandchildren that possibly live with them. All of this is more so communicating with our community. And if we're going to do this, I want us to make sure that we come from all ends. That way everyone [1:14:38, 1:14:58]: So by doing this way, I'm for that. I mean staff recommendation, you know, extending to that piece of it uh is a good idea. Just one quick question, you know. Will we begin with the HOA? Because one of the things that you know I'm always saying I'm not [1:14:58, 1:15:02]: proponent of us superseding homeowners associations. [1:15:03, 1:15:23]: when it comes to our poll enforcement, when it comes to our actions in neighborhoods. So will we is there some way we're reaching out to these home associations? Well in collaboration with that. We kinda get the information. But the ones that we do, what we can do is actually post before we rather suck. [1:15:23, 1:15:43]: uh call me ball age o's so that we can go over these results. That may extend your time, but if you want that. Just not wait. To be clear, has thirty days takes you past your work session meeting in September. September twenty fifth. September twenty fifth. [1:15:43, 1:15:53]: And if that's the case then your next meeting is October 8th. So the question is, do you really want that true 30 days or do you want the work session here? [1:15:55, 1:16:15]: I'm fine with the next work section where I just wanted if you gotta put those components in place and that's what we're gonna do, I just wanna think what is the planning commission in that range of um September uh does it that won't be a full thirty days for them. So it gave you thirty days more [1:16:15, 1:16:20]: The plan commission we're not have your sept uh September twentieth. [1:16:22, 1:16:28]: So so we can automate it and [1:16:29, 1:16:49]: Can we get those letters out next week? Okay, but you're saying that we're talking this, but I think we still need a motion for this. I'm not sure. Well we we agree to talk about a couple of different actions in overnight overnight in thirty days September now actually. [1:16:49, 1:17:09]: I mean, is there a motion that needs to be carried for this or not? No, because you're not really taking any action over the other thing, if we have the authorization to go here to put out our people for overnight party. [1:17:09, 1:17:27]: Sorry out, sorry out. So, well Yeah, but it's uh see I don't live in the bottom here for this fish ball too. I'm I'm always looking ahead and looking at what's supposed to the headlining over it. Stop where it starts total and not totally. [1:17:29, 1:17:49]: That's what the headline will be. See, I'm I'll I'm I'll try to save us from hanging our sails. Because the headline will read stop read starts towing in October. Okay? But that's what we're choosing to do right now by delaying this. Okay? We have citizens here knocking on our door that says they want action on the door. [1:17:49, 1:18:09]: Right now. Okay, even if we timed it out and we brought it back to the work session, uh the planning commission or the work session, still you gotta put out or you still got to formulate it, you gotta put it together, you gotta get the information out. Guess what that is? November by that time, right? That's what we're doing right now because. [1:18:08, 1:18:28]: You gotta talk talk this through with a timeline. That's what's happening right now. Okay? So that's what we're gonna be doing in November. So as we talk this out, we're delaying this process over right now. So basically the decision that we're making, because if we make a decision today, we're not gonna have anything going to force until maybe [1:18:28, 1:18:48]: Late September, early October. But we'll have it going to force. But we're not gonna have anything going into force. I mean mid-September. We're not gonna have anything going into force until mid-October, late no uh mid-October to late October, uh, if we don't we do not act today. [1:18:48, 1:19:08]: So that's kind of where we are with this process. I cannot support you in terms of what it is. If that's what you all choose to do, you know, that's the majority, what the majority would choose to do. But I'm telling you, if you be on this council and you talk to residents every single day and you out there, not on social media, if you talk to a [1:19:08, 1:19:28]: At the grocery store, if you're talking to them at the Chick-fil-A, if you're talking to them at the Starbucks, it doesn't matter where you talk to them about, they're tired of this issue. And I was elected in 2016 to solve problems. I walked through the city hall doors that day knowing that there was a parking problem. I'm not sure how anybody [1:19:28, 1:19:38]: else could have done the same thing. I knew that there was a parking problem because I've seen it in my neighborhood a hundred times. Yet we are two and a half years in and we're still in the same place. [1:19:39, 1:19:53]: Okay, conclude. Thank you. Uh so you get this c staff has this uh guidance from the collective council. Alright, so public hearings are been closed. You got any other comments from the council? If not, then uh we'll move on to the next subject. [1:19:53, 1:20:13]: Council consideration approved the transmittable short-term work program, capital improvement plan. Ms. Moore, please. Right. Uh mayor and council, you should have in your package a document of both the short-term work plan and the poll. But these documents are proposed to be transmitted to DC along with our plan. [1:20:13, 1:20:33]: I want you to look through, first of all, phone that deals with community facilities. I think most of you are aware of these projects. There's nothing really new on this list at the top. And then it gives you a status of where they are in the process as well as the funding sources. [1:20:33, 1:20:37]: Are there any comments about anything that I'm coming for still? [1:20:40, 1:20:45]: Yes, sir. Um there's more um [1:20:46, 1:20:47]: Under [1:20:49, 1:20:53]: Uh under a transportation [1:20:55, 1:21:05]: Under transportation completed project number T and Birch Street Street Case completed. [1:21:06, 1:21:21]: Oh we're gonna get to the start to at the front and work our own. So we got page uh two for the by table. Okay. [1:21:21, 1:21:22]: Well [1:21:22, 1:21:26]: And those are the staff and those are the funding sources. [1:21:26, 1:21:30]: No, it looks like this. [1:21:31, 1:21:34]: Um eight. [1:21:50, 1:22:10]: If there's no questions on any of those? Uh I do. I think we talked earlier about It's under land use. Under the land use, you talk about uh when I get the right now facilities and economic developments going around now. Right. Okay. [1:22:10, 1:22:16]: One of our questions to comment about community facilities, then we're going to go on down to economic development. [1:22:27, 1:22:30]: Any questions about those are good. [1:22:32, 1:22:41]: Okay, next we'll go to land use. Now it's under this category that we're um I want this uh [1:22:43, 1:23:03]: The uh no what what was the use of the uh the general funding uh established out of the associated? Um that fee actually goes down. A lot of that money actually rolls over because we actually still send them up. So this is just that doesn't mean that you're gonna get even more budgeting. I mean, this is what you budgeted last year and we got [1:23:03, 1:23:23]: So by the end, just like you're going to see the cut planning here, there are some things in here that was budgeted under this budget cycle that they got started later in the year, but we still have to report them because it was in your document last year. Does that make sense? So last year should have stayed at the beginning. This year says underway. And these are the amount of [1:23:23, 1:23:25]: resources get you allocated. [1:23:33, 1:23:53]: Any other other questions? No, I'm going to we'll language, you know, right. Right, well I just want to make sure that we we finish. And as you know, these are supposed to roll over every year. Okay. So, you know, sometimes it's at beginning, in process, underway, and then it moves off to complete. Does that make sense? Okay, so. [1:23:53, 1:24:13]: Um so if there are no other uh areas under um economic development, let's go to land use and see that as you know comments. But economic development, we have talked earlier about the uh the opportunity zones, uh designations, yes sir, and then moving forward with uh us preparing. [1:24:13, 1:24:33]: in our discussion earlier we said uh we had waited so long that the data now was almost old and we had not moved forward with opportunities on tax credits or empowerment zones so enabling our employers to uh issue thirty four hundred dollars, I think it is tax credits to each new job. [1:24:33, 1:24:53]: They created, which is a great marketing tool, economic development driver tool. So what is it that we need to do under this process in order to drive that forward? Well what we're telling the state is that we are between 217 and 220, that we're going to get some assistance from [1:24:53, 1:25:13]: from the soldier to actually deal with the census data, which is coming out with 2020 new numbers, to actually look in the footprint of City Side Ridge and then draw those areas that are eligible to receive those credits and then make applications based on those designations that they come up with. [1:25:13, 1:25:14]: Yeah. [1:25:14, 1:25:34]: So you need some funding from us in order to do that. Well we have we have twenty five thousand. Is that gonna do is that I'm saying is that I know you talking about maybe we need a little bit more than that. Right. I think once we get the uh the NL development person on board and then we put this out for an R and P then I think whatever that R and P comes in as then we probably [1:25:34, 1:25:37]: need to make some adjustments actually stuff. [1:25:42, 1:26:02]: And uh I guess the next one would be uh create we I see it says ongoing, but I'm not exactly sure what we're doing on number twelve, which is creating a secret citywide marketing plan. Uh we're doing the rebranding, but on top of that, uh we have talked about maybe discussing having uh [1:26:02, 1:26:22]: retaining some of our own funds uh to be able to do some C V V to be able to do our own marketing. Is that uh update on that what is is there some action we need to take? Right, well we just put in a figure that we had last year. Last year I think when we submitted this, I think Kieran was just putting out the R S and P [1:26:22, 1:26:42]: And so this is the amount of money that um I think they've come close to using at this point. So we put the 75, I think they extended, I think you say six or sixty-five. Uh and the other thing that we talked about when we bring back during uh passion goes to the budget process uh was creating our own CDD. And I think here is my lining up. [1:26:42, 1:26:53]: have those organizations from Adiala and other places to come in and present the facts on how we get that started and how we make that happen. [1:26:53, 1:26:55]: I'm gonna go land. [1:26:56, 1:27:16]: Well, I because I I know we put other funds into the rearranging process. So I'm just trying to figure out where we are with with that versus what we're putting in there. Well, this says it always says necessarily funding. So let me just say that. Okay. Um with these projects initially. [1:27:16, 1:27:36]: Came up, you had a dollar left. And so what the state asks you to do is next year tell us how far you've gotten it off. So that's why some would say beginning, some say underway, some says in progress, and then it goes to complete. So these numbers are not necessarily new funding numbers. [1:27:36, 1:27:56]: If you go back and look at last year, you see many of these, you're going to see the same numbers from last year for most of these. It's just that, like on the wells, last year we might have said out the bid, this year we're saying they've been identified one grill. So this is just a progress report on how we move through. But then if you identify [1:27:56, 1:28:13]: new areas that you want to be added to this, then we can add those, and then it starts off with the new beginning. And then once it becomes a part of this, then we will continue that until it rolls off into complete, or you just decide to take it off altogether because it's not well done anymore. [1:28:14, 1:28:17]: So that is based on what you funded last year. [1:28:21, 1:28:41]: And the land use number. Okay, the E L CI implementation architecture form obtained. I just want to make a note of that front. It's DSW. Those are the ones that have done your renderings that we [1:28:41, 1:28:53]: brought to you are the off the arch posters there, the sign and the amphitheater. And so they were obtained to do all your architecture work on your project. So they're your city architect. [1:28:56, 1:29:16]: Now there's some other things that we thought about that you've done before that you may want to add on a lot on land use is whether or not you want to pursue your park plan designations, and that is to look at across the city whether or not you want various parks located in different parts. [1:29:16, 1:29:36]: Of town, south, west, east, north, whatever you think there may be a need for any type of passive part, active part, pocket part, but just to basically say that we want to pursue from a land use perspective as we move out, that we would like to look [1:29:35, 1:29:55]: At park plans and park designations. That's one item. Another one is S. Now, under this particular designation, so the public can understand, and we all understand. Now these parks can go in any area of the city if we outlined that correctly. That's correct. There's been much talk. [1:29:55, 1:30:15]: Talk about a potential park for the South Stockbridge area or the Eagles Landing area. Could a potential park for that area be covered under this? If it was so chosen under by the citizens? That's correct. This is for any park in which Mary Council feels there need to be a park in the various communities. [1:30:15, 1:30:35]: That just means from a land use perspective that you've given us the reasons to go and try to identify calls that they fit, right? And go through that process of identifying those cultures and locations for some type of park. And again, we don't have to always do full parts. You got passive, you got active, you got pocket parts. [1:30:35, 1:30:55]: You know, just some type of designation that says this is what you want to do. So as we move through this process, then those places can be identified. So how much money would you still uh do we need to uh allocate was there a specific recommendation on the amount of dollars that we might be able to set aside for this, or is that still well again we do [1:30:55, 1:31:15]: You put we got from 2018 to 2022, 2020. So in any of those funding years, what you're telling me, sis, is that you're going to do this. Okay. So if you want to put a dollar out, it's totally up to you to decide. It's just that somewhere within that five-year period, you know, we need to allocate some. [1:31:15, 1:31:35]: But this is not as expensive as a comp plan and we just did our comp plan for 97,000. So it should be relatively a lot less because you just identify areas that you know you want to develop park in. So I I I want to leave that open because we're about to embark upon this flash five process process. So [1:31:35, 1:31:55]: So there will be project projects that will come up or that are desired in the community that we need to have some type of design or indicator because this is our plan, right? So I mean is there room for stuff as as we have indicated here that we want to have for those potential splash projects we don't have to be uh [1:31:55, 1:32:15]: We don't have to nail down the exact location or something like that. We just try to nail down placeholder for them so uh these potential projects could possibly be brought forward under splass five. I think under splash five though we kind of stretched that out. We'll get to that in a moment. Uh but it does not mean that once you get a [1:32:15, 1:32:35]: the grant administrator all types of park grants out there, but there can be other s resources. What I'm saying is that if that is an item that you want to add on the land use, you can put a dollar map just between then and twenty twenty, you're gonna have to decide for sure where that funding source is going to be. [1:32:35, 1:32:51]: I mean you can put slots, you can put general, and you can put grants, but during that period of time we might have to find those revenues to do whatever it is you want us to do as relates to costs. And also the right column because we were talking about the uh [1:32:51, 1:33:11]: The expressway exit and potential beautifications uh along those exit that fall up under this category or those the one that I have is that uh we have adopted several corridor plans because highway one hundred thirty eight and I think you may remember but I actually went to the file that apparently that you adopted [1:33:11, 1:33:31]: number of overlay districts that we need to establish and then there are some um there are already some overlay districts and there's some corridors we adopted that every county corridors and so there are questions in terms of if you choose to base on that designation whether or not you want to [1:33:31, 1:33:51]: deal with any monies that address those corridors in terms of how you want them to look in terms of any duplication. Yeah I think uh you know uh I think we put thirty thousand dollars uh in the twenty seventeen budget just specifically for uh expressway exits and I think this council [1:33:51, 1:34:11]: And we had our talks at the retreat. And moreover, we decided that uh at that time the discussions surrounded around enhancing these and adding a little more money each year to those corridors. We're doing a great job of maintaining such like Hudson Bridge with that beautiful. [1:34:11, 1:34:25]: median that's in the middle. Think about how much that could be enhanced by adding some shrubbery or some trees through there. That type of beautification project that would be in here as well or is that something else? [1:34:25, 1:34:45]: Well again these are items and I'm just throwing these out because they will cost for you guys to consider. So I'm just mentioning those and and you don't have to put a lot of dollar mount for anything out. But when you get to that and then you decide that you're gonna do it, then you have to get some actual cost. Um apparently you guys in the trail stone. [1:34:45, 1:34:50]: Right, some time. Okay. And that was one part of the thing. [1:34:50, 1:35:10]: Is that you know during the comprehensive plan update, you tried to bring in all of these plans that you had, and one of them was your trail. So my question to you is: you have that trail plan done. Is it your desire at what point in time do you want us to start implementing the trail? No. Because it came with a set of recommendations. [1:35:10, 1:35:30]: Uh so you got studies that let us and you got studies that you can do something too, and use the opportunity to just put these in your plans and say between now and the next five years you're gonna do something with your training. So let me ask you this now. Uh you're presenting us today for approval. When's the suspensive [1:35:29, 1:35:49]: This has got to be submitted to you. We're gonna do it in a what's that date we said after um holiday next week? Yes. Right. So all this thing we're talking about the trail plan, anything potential for land use for a passive park possibly, all that has to be done now and added to this when we transmit it in a few days or next week. We got it in there. That's right. Okay. That's why that's why [1:35:49, 1:36:00]: I'm I'm just going to map. Right, so otherwise we really if we have some other things we want to add to this, we really can't approve it's just right now. Can we improve as it is right now and then you can wait till next year. [1:36:00, 1:36:20]: No, I don't know. I don't think that's I don't think that's what the council would want to do, but that's why I want to find out about the time frame. So Okay, so I mean this is what you can do. You can have you can actually put the activity and you can put a nominal dollar in it. So that as we get towards this, then you can use an actual cost. But I just wanna bring out your trail study because [1:36:20, 1:36:40]: When we do the comp plan, it requires us to bring all these studies, the L CI, your trail plan, and all these things within that plan that we said that we're going to implement. And so that's the reason why I brought the question, because you actually paid for a trail study. And at some point you if you pay for it, you're supposed to do something different. Well good John's [1:36:40, 1:37:00]: One one of the things, I mean we we when we came aboard uh in Sony sixteen, there were some things that was already identified, that was already approved funding. When we talked about and Casper Alexander mentioned the thirty thousand dollars, but yet we've yet to track that thirty thousand dollars and see what it was done with it. So I don't want to continue proven amounts. [1:37:00, 1:37:05]: we're not even tracking to see, okay, okay, it was it was spent on this we're done. [1:37:06, 1:37:15]: That's what I wanna see. I don't wanna say we we approve this trail plan, we approve this park, we'll approve it and we can't track the funds being allocated to those areas. [1:37:15, 1:37:35]: We're just being another week the following year saying the same thing again. So I I want to systematically be able to do that before we start talking about allocating money to certain projects. How do we track those dollars that we've allocated to those different projects to make sure they get uh I'm still trying to track down the trail point [1:37:35, 1:37:55]: I think did y'all find a fine one? I think that's a good thing. Okay. Okay. So within there there's a list of recommendations to supply. So what I would suggest, just like the front plant, whatever that I don't know what that money was like. I guess that was for beautification, that was a good thing. It was for beautification and expressway maintenance. All you need to do is drive down Hudson Bridge Road. [1:37:55, 1:38:15]: So you'll see that we have crews working to take care of it and it looks magnificent right now. That's where the money went to. If you look along a lot of the corridors, if you look along Rockport, that money was put into the pot so that we could maintain our expressway excess and our right-of-way grass cutting uh with enhanced um you know [1:38:15, 1:38:35]: the areas uh around the exit and the uh uh you know the highway 138 area as well. So we put those monies in there because we did not uh want to we weren't satisfied with the appearance of our city because we were tasked with improving the appearance of our city uh and this kind [1:38:35, 1:38:55]: Council approved the master trail plan. We approved it. The previous council did not. We came in, we approved it because we wanted to see that done. We enjoyed the Reeve's Creek Trail and what it was supposed to implement. It was great to see us go ahead and move forward with extended. [1:38:55, 1:39:15]: And the Reed's Creek Trail down Cliffman Road over to Walt Stevens Road so we can connect with the Clayton County Trail at Lake Spire. That's the grand plan of the entire region, which is to connect these trails so that you can take off-work road trails and bike throughout the [1:39:15, 1:39:35]: entire area connecting to the Atlanta belt line. What we can do is because what I did see on I know that we have already spent money on the trails and that has not been captured, I don't think, in the short term work program. So what we can do is whatever dollars we've already allocated on the trail [1:39:35, 1:39:43]: It's just as an item you can go ahead and put those numbers because we have spent money to improve those treatments. Right? [1:39:45, 1:40:05]: How did you say we state basis? Oh literally. Oh, really? Oh, any of our trails. Yes. But but didn't that come but that was coming from a different city than what we're talking about here. That came from a different funding base. Yes, we're talking about that that [1:40:04, 1:40:20]: Yeah, so we're talking about a different funding basis. We're talking about they came out of the general fund towards these uh projects we had previously uh agreed to do. Well actually they're everything. And that probably shouldn't have been reported. Did they come out of splash three? [1:40:21, 1:40:41]: I have to look back. Okay, it's in whatever comes out of SPOSS is supposed to be reported. That's what I'm saying. Um, you got some projects on here that started in 215 and 216 that were actually SWAS dollars. So this picks up your general funds, your SWATs, your transportation grants, your CPG, you know. [1:40:41, 1:41:01]: You know, any cost of five million dollar is going to be reflected by these categories. So all I'm saying is that if we want to continue to have reach the the park trail on here, we need to show this and if they came out as floss funds, we need to capture that and then hold that as a pattern at some point in time if we want to continue to do that. [1:41:00, 1:41:20]: we've already identified and you see that I mean wouldn't that automatic? Because I I keep saying we keep every time new people come we just do something different. And I know that how do we even with us we're taking all of these notes and these minutes, are we going back to [1:41:20, 1:41:40]: Look at all of this stuff because if not, we just spending money to me. It just you just constantly just spending money. But this is supposed to be an update for five years. So each year is supposed to show your progression. What I'm saying is that out of class funds, we have already done work on the trail. That just needs to be [1:41:40, 1:42:00]: Captured in this report. So it is already an activity that's listed. So at some point in time, if you want to do additional things on the trailer, then that dollar amount will change as the year activity in terms of doing any something change. That's all. [1:42:00, 1:42:20]: the original trail constructing uh the park, the uh the uh trail here, the Clifford Road, all of those those were funds that were brought brought in by GDI, but the city had to expand funds in order to complete those projects. So I guess my question now would be it's kind of based on the previous question, we put you know we've got a capsule [1:42:20, 1:42:40]: We need to capture anything on Lee Street Trail last year to put on here, stop stuff, whatever it may be, and want to expand on the potential uh trail system that was a couple years ago and look at any type of park designation or whatnot. Don't and I think it was one of the categories, one of the things we kind of kicked around here. [1:42:40, 1:42:56]: You had the corridors. Okay. And and then the only reason why I'm bringing them at yesterday is today we talked about the problem and there was a question raised about your trade. Right. Well see the thing of this is that this has to be approved by us. [1:42:56, 1:43:16]: before you send it. So if we're talking about wanting to add these things in part of that, I don't know if we can also approve it tonight, but up to be hopefully kind of thick we did. It's up to you what I would recommend there. And this is just a suggestion, you just adopt it as it is. But again, I was asked to bring this to your attention. So that's all we're doing. So you can choose to [1:43:16, 1:43:36]: Just take note of these and deal with the next year and just adopt this as it is or you can take one of these items 16, 17, 18 numbers change, of trail implementation, those funds is already there, so that's just a matter of you've already approved that because the money has already been spent. [1:43:36, 1:43:42]: You would have to decide on your cart plant and your corridor. So those are things you can capture. [1:43:42, 1:44:02]: Yeah. When once you call it as that I present certain things, I I just bring the information. So I'm going to bring you the information. That's all we're doing. Right. But what you were saying is basically we do this the same way we would be able to do anything else. And we wanted to add the corridor plan or the park plan, we just amend this, right? And add those two. [1:44:02, 1:44:22]: to it and pass it tonight in order to do uh the things that we're doing right now. Don't we want a park in the city in the next or some parks in the city, parking parts, whatever they may be within the next five years? We do, I'm pretty sure we do. So we set aside, amend this to add to it, uh [1:44:22, 1:44:42]: the on the plan. I'm I'm not sure exactly how it did get in the plan'cause we did have a uh South Stop require uh designated in the retreat report from twenty sixteen. So I'm not sure why we have ha it would never add it to this uh particular budget. But you know, all it would take is an amendment [1:44:42, 1:45:02]: If we wanted to make any additional changes, we can make an amendment to rip uh to these changes right now in order to bring that forward. Is that correct, sir? Mr. Wee? Mr. Wee? Is that correct? If we needed to move this forward or we wanted to add some things to it, we would just need to amend this and just [1:45:02, 1:45:04]: That's all that's all. [1:45:05, 1:45:25]: Well I I would personally want to uh make the well what do you think well was it the thing of it is that I uh we a to to approve anything we need council consensus anyway, but if you guys suggest a recommendation. This is just the state is just saying this is your wish case. Right. Okay. [1:45:25, 1:45:45]: Is going to be in our files an activity that you choose to do within a five-year period. Okay. Okay. Since you chose it as an activity in the next five years, at some point in time, in that five years, you're going to fund it. So you might not fund it in the next thing, you might not fund it. [1:45:45, 1:45:48]: It might not be funded until twenty. [1:45:49, 1:46:09]: But what you're telling the state is this is an activity for the next five years that see the stock bridge plans to touch or plan to do. It's not in stone, they don't penalize you because you take something off and you decided you didn't want to do it. It is just your wish list to the state to give the state some idea in terms of what stock bridge plans. [1:46:09, 1:46:29]: In terms of a short-term work plan and their CIAP for the next five years. Because when you do one next year, it's from nineteen to twenty-one. So it moves every year, and most of your projects are going to slide with that five year period until they get to the complete part and then they go off. Mrs. Knight, have you got any ideas about it? [1:46:29, 1:46:49]: Yeah, we and that's true. Then every year you're going to update the short-term work program. And then there are other funding sources that are potentially identified. One being Splash 5 was obviously proposed Splash 5 for next year, and the board will pass that. Obviously that will provide another funding source for these types of activities for these. [1:46:49, 1:47:09]: types of projects and so you you continue to evaluate because some things may change. We may not prioritize certain projects that are on the list currently. You may reprioritize in coming years and you identify funding sources for those um on vote. [1:47:09, 1:47:11]: This is just [1:47:13, 1:47:33]: We're wasting a lot of time on this because none of this is ever going to happen until we identify at that time and then identify the funding source for it at that time. So that these numbers are just they're just placeholders. That's correct. They're not they're not just active numbers. So we make the wish list and we put the placeholders there and we just move [1:47:33, 1:47:53]: And really you should be able to disagree your lecture, you know, because these are the times for the numbers learning something. Well well based on what she said, and I agree with Mrs. Black, and that and you are that these are [1:47:53, 1:48:13]: this placeholder. This is our wish list. I I suggest that we take the recommendation that the council that we make that the assistant city manager has made and this project is and the staff has made and then um I would suggest that we amend it to add uh parks throughout the city and [1:48:13, 1:48:33]: Then the triple holders, so we that is captured and there is a placeholder for it. If we don't do it, then you know obviously there's no penalty, correct? He just says that there's no penalty. We're just indicating what we want to do. Any further discussion? [1:48:33, 1:48:50]: Okay, so let me go through the rest and you can come back to that one. Okay, alright. Okay, uh now. So I just gotta withdraw the second business. [1:48:51, 1:48:52]: [6532.4, 6552.4]: So I we got the transportation. I know what is it? Transportation it uh portion that you had yesterday. Uh uh completed process. Okay, so here's the transportation. Anybody have any comments? Um as you know, number seventeen was at three million dollars and was one to eight [1:49:12, 1:49:16]: one place I think it was for um [1:49:17, 1:49:37]: Rock quarry, and everybody took their money out, then it went someplace else and sold what we just decided to do, roadway construction, project engineering roadway acquisition. So whenever we tie that down to what the project is going to be, that's how it's listed in this without a specific destination. So is this where we can [1:49:36, 1:49:50]: have a wish list for what uh sidewalk road we would like to see sidewalks. But this is kind of different. I think a sidewalk repair seven eighteen is where we actually have our list for sidewalks. [1:49:51, 1:49:59]: And so cities read the city sidewalks and communities. Right. So uh 17 deals with the actual creation of roads. [1:49:59, 1:50:04]: 18 actually deals with sidewalls, repair, and reconstruction. [1:50:05, 1:50:11]: Okay, so there's some areas that we I think Daisy keeps an ongoing list. Do we have flip and roll anywhere? [1:50:13, 1:50:33]: Pasidewalks. I know it's county, but is that something that we can do it um an agreement or something? We could with the county coordination with them because they have a splash project that's been over there since twenty fourteen, part of its county, part of its city, where we do like an inter [1:50:33, 1:50:53]: government on agreement with them that we could kind of patch the two together to get to law students where uh where we are. So is it that that that's what was discussed before by city manager. If there was some agreement that came in the counter proportion. [1:50:53, 1:51:05]: costs based on what's Henry County and what's stock for age that might be more advisable. I would caution of course when we have county roads such as this taking on the responsibility of those county roads. [1:51:05, 1:51:25]: That's all I want to say. Yeah, real quick and uh it's almost a similar situation we had with Ty Street when the county went from uh Red Oak Road to Banks Road, that was it for them. And from uh Banks Road down was the city. But we did do some other works in there identifying the uh [1:51:25, 1:51:40]: uh uh you know the safety place to the trail to the trail and putn's move to the street. So we did come back after they'd done that road to do some other things to go on up and we I think we already had something planned for the road rest of the road going up past uh Smith Barnes Elementary. [1:51:41, 1:52:01]: As far as you sitting on the ATL board, is there anything in here that we need to designate for transit? Uh or any anything that we need to indicate that we're moving forward or any placeholder that we can put in there for clarification. I don't sit on the ATL board. [1:52:01, 1:52:21]: for district nine, distance ten people about those and errors that have already been identified to move forward to the next step. But in the intergovernmental retreat we had here at Stock Ridge a couple days ago, it was overwhelmingly that the individuals in their brilliance field that we need to accelerate the transportation projects that are already on board. [1:52:21, 1:52:41]: And part of that and the two roads that that uh that were identified that involve us directly is Rock Roy Road and Jodico Road. Okay. And they're so the intent is that from that intergovernmental retreat that uh the uh that we would go forward uh with all week [1:52:41, 1:53:01]: can or what we can to for each one of the the counties and cities, small cities, to try to work through the funding process to and with a state to try to get things going on those two on several different roads, but those two those were two roads that how they dealt with stop it. Okay. In terms of ATM [1:53:01, 1:53:21]: once once again that that um uh there's the the two mayors have been selected to be part of the process along with other elected officials so I so we have to work through those those individuals uh in a sense uh on that aspect as a select to be folks for the ATL Transit Board itself. Right. I I I understand that what I'm saying to you is that as the [1:53:21, 1:53:31]: Right. We need something to end some kind of state. Okay, mass transit sales. Okay, so what kind of skills do you have? [1:53:31, 1:53:51]: Ms. Moore, what do you recommend that we put in here as a placeholder for the mass transit component? Is there something that can be uh well because they're just starting up, I think by the time we get to this next year we'll have a real better deal in two nineteen or reason. I think I know in the comp plan you [1:53:51, 1:54:00]: talk about the whole transition. Uh but I think next year when visitors will be able to we'll know where they're going. Okay. [1:54:01, 1:54:05]: Okay. Any of the issues under transportation? No. [1:54:05, 1:54:10]: Okay, then the last page is completed projects. [1:54:11, 1:54:28]: And I think that was I I just wanted to make a note, uh number ten, uh Birch Street, Street Street completed. Um I just wanted to make a note of what it was. Oh yeah, I'll make it what it is. I think we I think we asked basis that we can get something. [1:54:29, 1:54:49]: I have no idea what's awesome. I mean I mean we actually saw one point five billion and so we were actually trying to see what happened on that screen. I mean this is actually what was well just the wish list that never got done completed. [1:54:49, 1:54:53]: What if not a million dollars or well? [1:54:54, 1:55:14]: I think they don't decide walks. Yeah. So do you tell the side? No, they put that real type down. I think that was the sidewalk because all of that was it and then [1:55:14, 1:55:34]: they put the planners and all of that because I don't think that was doing that. I think I know it proceeded dacious because we were trying to figure out what we did is that we carried over what Linda had reported to you guys before and I think it was C and Dacious as I think that's a typo. I don't think that was in L D C and if you don't see it listed there because what a band approved [1:55:34, 1:55:53]: sidewalks and built the um thing that goes back there to businesses over there. They built the street lighting over there. And if they came out of Jimmy [1:55:54, 1:56:14]: It wasn't M. L. King at the time, it was if if if that's what it was, uh it was the uh Bear Street Streetscape, which was probably in thirteen or fourteen or fifteen or something. Well it has to be South Bear Street sidewalk on the other. [1:56:14, 1:56:34]: But there's two phases to Bear Street Catalog. It was phase one and phase two. That's correct. Now if you go back to Berk Street, unless down by the tag office and the library or something was uh adapt. I I I don't know. And I think they said the off preceding him and just carry over. [1:56:34, 1:56:50]: What so it must be a newspaper. But were those sidewalks,'cause they look fairly fresh even over that one. Anybody take off that library? Mm-hmm. [1:56:51, 1:57:11]: Those are there before we take it. Or again, that is something if it's in our minutes, is that something that we can go back to the previous minutes to see what the previous council did? Because we're taking the minutes and then it should be in our and I think this was another point Linda had that proceeded any of us. [1:57:11, 1:57:31]: So we just carried over because it was listed at ECA. Yeah. But we're trying to do some research on the street. See I think that needs to take place because we keep saying, you know, which street and I think if we're having the minutes and it's a pup part of public the the records that has been taken, we need to be able to coordinate, you know, with the clerk's office to what's going on. [1:57:31, 1:57:51]: Okay. Because during my first 10 year old. Yeah. Yeah, because I mean since general calls and TE, we don't get that in a TE grant. So that means that most of that would happen in the general. [1:57:51, 1:58:11]: But I am familiar with the uh Bear Street Street Scale one and two. Okay. Well it's gonna be a combination of that and the uh funding from the finance program. So I have a question box that I asked. Go figure that out, right? Go buy. [1:58:11, 1:58:31]: Where that money came from. Uh page five, if you guys are familiar with this, uh page five and six is your CIP that we plan to submit to DCA. And again, these are just projections, and some of these we really won't have hard numbers until you know some of this stuff coming in. But I want you [1:58:31, 1:58:38]: Yeah, so look at page five, the seeing the proposed expenditures for planning years and all of those items. [1:58:39, 1:58:40]: Yeah. [1:58:43, 1:58:48]: And then okay, six is the final source. [1:59:10, 1:59:13]: Everybody okay? Yep. Okay, so with that we uh [1:59:14, 1:59:19]: Therefore, if I may. And um in your books is this report ready? [1:59:20, 1:59:25]: Is the current project so to say? Right. It's in there. [1:59:26, 1:59:46]: And update it every more to me. Okay. So they changed the back of that. So I had no on this. Okay. So open up to a public hearing. Any comments uh I'll say for what was presented on this side to citizens before on this [1:59:46, 2:00:06]: This side. Anybody against any comments against what was presented on this side? Anybody on this side? No comments will serve public here and it's closed. Now we're the motion. Now we need wait a minute. Right, exactly. The motion needs to be to adopt this with the mandate. [2:00:06, 2:00:20]: aspects of the land use to include park plan and the trail implementation with figures and to clarify under completed projects where they're$1.5 million off. [2:00:20, 2:00:40]: I made the motion to adopt the staff uh that was out just outlined to the council. The staff report that was just uh made the council. What dealt with what dealt with the uh approving the the proposed uh the work plan uh the the source [2:00:40, 2:01:00]: work short term work plan along with an amended line is dealing with the land use a public adding a park uh plan to that as well as the trail information and then also to review and look at the the completed projects number ten of the first rescate and make sure you got confirmation confirmed that as well. Ms. Mayor [2:01:00, 2:01:20]: dollar amount going with the land use, trail plan and park. Let's say twenty-five thousand each, or twenty each or fifteen each, and see if we decide what company. Twenty-five thousand. Well twenty-five thousand place over we can always change it for each of those. [2:01:20, 2:01:40]: No, it's not a budget, it's just a it's a placeholder. You got it? Is that that really? You got it? Any further is there a second first of all? Okay. Okay, all right. And and obviously Alexander has the most ranking. Alright, it's not called. [2:01:40, 2:01:52]: Clarify. Okay. Any further discussion? Not all in favor of the motion, please contact. There you go. All right, thank you very much. Now, um public hearing once again. [2:01:53, 2:01:55]: So I think the question is. [2:01:55, 2:02:15]: The next section is going to be a full lengthy. Yeah, you can't think of that very much. Alright. Alright, in for discussion. [2:02:15, 2:02:29]: Which M L B says MLB says? Okay, good. Six fifteen. Six fifteen is around. We could be six minutes. We probably [2:02:30, 2:02:40]: How much of the water? Water is wet. [2:03:10, 2:03:15]: So I was asking a question about uh [2:03:16, 2:03:20]: Well my head is a good. [2:03:30, 2:03:40]: [7430.0, 7445.0]: I personally want to make sure you know I mean you have an extra light once right. [2:04:10, 2:04:25]: And you think you can get your thing. [2:04:40, 2:04:44]: And see if I don't know how you [2:04:47, 2:04:54]: Some push up here. [2:04:55, 2:05:05]: [7508.0, 7520.0]: Oh no, you speak with the female trouble in the truth. Oh, yeah. You got the same. [2:05:24, 2:05:29]: Yeah, we're it took one. [2:05:40, 2:05:55]: [7575.5, 7582.8]: What are you doing, Jessica? Oh getting out of the stuff. [2:06:23, 2:06:26]: [7586.3, 7598.3]: She wants to have a meetup. We've already made the channel here. [2:07:03, 2:07:04]: Okay. [2:07:05, 2:07:09]: Okay, because that is what we chose. That is all. [2:07:40, 2:07:43]: Yeah, yeah. [2:07:43, 2:08:03]: I think um maybe uh Vanessa do in she's in the no which one uh church. [2:08:03, 2:08:23]: Well I did work at Posty Price Wells and uh we didn't find the center. Yeah, yeah, pretty hard. I was there with Crown Jones now, there was um [2:08:23, 2:08:39]: I've been uh probably the most probably for the shoulders. Yeah, he might he might be uh being a fan of one was a longest. [2:08:55, 2:09:15]: I'm sorry about a dance. [2:09:15, 2:09:35]: She's not me in my trades. She didn't. Well colour, we think of the avatar this week right here. [2:09:35, 2:09:43]: I didn't mean it when you see the term. [2:09:45, 2:10:05]: And I would say I was out. [2:10:05, 2:10:10]: So you were playing. [2:10:20, 2:10:25]: I say. [2:10:44, 2:10:51]: Oh, how they call it sort of getting this. [2:10:55, 2:11:05]: I'm pretty called water. So now you think the opposite. [2:11:25, 2:11:35]: [7915.6, 7930.0]: I mean man, I had different lady talking about they're about to get into a fight out there. They called and got a lady called the time. [2:12:50, 2:13:00]: I see white there. [2:13:00, 2:13:02]: [7985.0, 7985.8]: Um [2:13:06, 2:13:08]: So is the call of third? [2:13:10, 2:13:14]: Actually, no matter what we want to say now, but what the bottom is. [2:13:15, 2:13:17]: That's the case. [2:13:17, 2:13:19]: I'm the shape. [2:13:20, 2:13:40]: I'd like to bring us out of our research. Thank you very much. And uh we got a suggestion, I suggest brought to me as my attention, and maybe if the council you can allow this to happen, is that uh we have guests here from Jordan Power uh to give us any asking questions on any issues, yet deal with items, deal with cameras and deal with items on the cassette. [2:13:39, 2:13:59]: agenda. So if if you don't mind, I'd like to obtain a motion to go straight to the agenda to the Senate agenda, discuss that, and see if there's anything you may have with join the final reference to cameras issues. If so, great we can ask those questions. If not, then we'll move on and go back back on step with the comprehensive plan. So [2:13:59, 2:14:19]: Oh, okay. So any questions? All in favor, please indicate. Okay. So what would you say? Okay. Okay. Okay. So what we do is that the consent agenda is approved the consent agenda items below, to approve George Power surveillance cameras from Gardner Park, Memorial Park,$41,645.52 parks, class commerce center, nine thousand. [2:14:19, 2:14:39]: $133.32. Why would we reclaim the animation? Reclaim the mission facility.$24,263. Maintenance facility$12,192.84. Total amount is$87,234. Dentists are two approved site engineers. [2:14:39, 2:14:59]: To install access rolls from test well site number two, amount of$31,950 loss funding. No three to move forward with the RFP for the management services for the amphitheater. No four to move forward with the RFI request for information for a contract part-time grant provider. And also to note five to approve the public works. [2:14:59, 2:15:08]: policy. Okay, that's what we became on the consent agenda. So it's my assumption that uh consent agenda that um I need motion to accept that. [2:15:09, 2:15:25]: So we have any questions at all in reference to uh the surveillance cameras for uh Georgia Power here in this time? Yeah. Okay, you okay please Sir Few I'll come? [2:15:26, 2:15:35]: I know you can somewhere now. I think you can put it together with it. Yeah. If they ask me something. Oh okay. Um [2:15:36, 2:15:56]: Because this is a considered agenda of funds that we'll be for for our part, right? What residual are we looking at to continue to pay joint power for these services? Okay, so as a governmental entity is a one month term. So what you all have the ability to do is to carry that from month to month. So we all [2:15:56, 2:16:16]: offered as a service very similar to what we do with our outdoor lighting. So the outdoor lighting, you have a tariff rate that comes from the Public Service Commission with display in respect to the actual cameras. It's unregulated, meaning that it's not regulated by the Public Service Commission, but we still give it to you the exact same way as on a month-to-month basis. [2:16:16, 2:16:36]: And what that means for the city is in times of financial hardship it gives you the ability to disconnect cameras, cut them on, cut them off, have you. So that's the first one. Yeah, but that's only telling us that it's not contractual for long term. Right. But I'm saying as the [2:16:36, 2:16:39]: Let me just say, if I get direct TV, right. [2:16:40, 2:17:00]: Then it's month to month. I can just put tell they cut it off at any time. But if I get the long but if I'm using that month to month, what imp what cost am I incurring with that with with that? Okay. So yeah, so if we had that broken out, I think it was actually presented actually. Yeah. [2:17:02, 2:17:04]: [8243.6, 8248.7]: Yeah. [2:17:29, 2:17:31]: No, not even. [2:17:45, 2:17:47]: [8268.5, 8288.5]: Yeah, that's good. This all I think we get we got everything captured in there. I appreciate it. The job at Reed Street Trail. That's one part of the left out the left out monument part at uh Rockmore and Eagles Landing. So I guess maybe we could get with Mr. Aaron maybe kind of get uh [2:18:08, 2:18:28]: A quota do we need to phone me? No, no, that's just his suggestion. We haven't talked up as we haven't talked about that as as a council as what is identity. Or you're bringing back an estimate on what that will come. We haven't had every other party. Okay, another question for our Georgia Power representative. [2:18:28, 2:18:48]: That's an answer. Me, Ms. Scott. Mrs. Scott? Yes. Okay. Any requests from Mrs. Scott? Okay, so we have a motion on the floor, the second, all in favor of motion, please indicate. Okay, thank you. Any reference? Apologize and they acknowledge earlier consumer. [2:18:48, 2:18:48]: Yeah. [2:18:48, 2:19:08]: All right, back on plan for the public hearing. This would be Council Conservative approved the transmitter for the two thousand uh thirty eight comprehensive plan. This more put great uh mayor council, we're here. Um the collaborative firm did a wonderful job in terms of uh controlling all the stuff they had [2:19:08, 2:19:28]: We get out there with a community and engage them to bring you a document that I think they did a great job on. And they're here. The document is extensive, so what I'm asking to do is just do the highlights. And what I shared with them, I thought was of major interest to you, is the land use classifications and what zonings will go with. [2:19:28, 2:19:45]: You know, what is the C one? What is the C2? What are the uses that will go on the last? So with that, I'm gonna turn it over to Metal. [2:19:47, 2:20:07]: All right, let's just we'll see here. Comprehensive plan is what we have next. We got new business and then uh then we'll actually at the end, new business one item, and we're actually near the end. Is there this region's got something to present tonight? We're just looking at and that's okay. So we're looking at whether or not look at new city manager, system manager. [2:20:07, 2:20:27]: For the rest of the staff that is here, is that do you need everybody here for the entire rest of the meeting? Just the people you need. If you want to release anybody, you can do so on your court. And I'll leave it to the discretion of the staff back here. I think the consent is going to answer a couple questions. [2:20:27, 2:20:47]: Okay. Alright, so something of you all who does anything else is uh I don't play that. Okay? Sorry, so go ahead and present. Oh no problem there. Uh just wanna say good evening and thank you for having us here. It appears as though there's a virus going around in city halls because I was at the city of Atlanta City Hall yesterday that you shut it down. [2:20:47, 2:21:07]: There's no air in this. I don't know what's going on. But anyway, uh we do appreciate you uh allowing us to do this plan for you. Uh we've done a lot of plans over the uh southwest Atlanta, uh uh county, we've done that comprehensive development plan, uh college park. [2:21:07, 2:21:27]: Fairbank and Fedville, just to name a few of the ones that we've done. But this is probably one of the first ones we've done where it's your first comp plan for the city. And we're very privileged that we had the opportunity to do it for you. Not only that, but we're doing Stone Crest, we're doing their comp plan for them. [2:21:27, 2:21:47]: Their first company. So we're very privileged that we have this opportunity to make history uh with you. Uh with that in mind, I'm gonna have um Madeline come up and sort of go through the land uses with you. Just want to just bring to your attention that these two documents go together. And the short-term work program and uh uh [2:21:47, 2:22:07]: The CIP, all of those things mirror what's in the comp plan, which the citizens say they want to talk, uh, they want to see happen, the goals and policies. And as a matter of fact, the trail plan is also mentioned in there. Citizens say some people brought that job attention that they had a trail plan that was adopted in 1970, nine uh 2017. [2:22:07, 2:22:27]: Uh and so that's mentioned in there and also talks about the goals and policies for that and some implementation to for that as well. So Madam is going to go through I asked her to do a high-level as Camilla Moore said, we're just going to go through the land uses, get your take on that, uh, and then we're going to ask you to take a vote on the plan so that we can see. [2:22:27, 2:22:33]: submitted uh with along with the documents that you approved earlier today. [2:22:33, 2:22:38]: Yeah, that's it. Um, [2:22:39, 2:22:59]: Thank you, thank you very much. Um appreciate you because it's a little time. As we say, we're going to not relabel it. [2:22:58, 2:23:18]: And that is to identify the needs of opportunities for the plan, implementation, and the goals that Mr. Shelby spoke about in terms of the implementing those goals for that work plan. So we're going to move right along to the main highlight, and we're going to talk about how we got to this point. [2:23:18, 2:23:35]: That was the public involvement. We actually conducted eight meetings. They were serial committee meetings with uh stakeholders that were involved in the city's business. And then there were they were public meetings. There were at least five public meetings that we held throughout this time period. And I have to say that was one of the most [2:23:35, 2:23:55]: engaging because the community were they they were very they had a small town feel so they they they really felt vested in the community. I know during the time there was a lot of other things, some pros and cons going on with the city, but I want to say that the community was very engaging and um and I actually enjoyed that opportunity and time to to be involved with [2:23:55, 2:23:56]: Yeah. [2:23:57, 2:24:17]: The some of the things we heard from the community was like was that they disliked industrial and industrial type developments. They felt like they were intrusive, uh heavy transportation type uses and utility uses. They were very much in favor of connecting the existing trails, uh connecting these landing bike lanes to create a loop that connects the city correctly. [2:24:17, 2:24:32]: as we've talked about in some early conversations tonight. They want to see connectivity between the residential areas and the parks and they certainly want to see more recreation centers throughout the city of Stock Bridge. [2:24:33, 2:24:53]: The cup plans, the map we just looked at. I do have a map that's a little larger that you can kind of look at. And in fact, we did tweak a little bit of the boundaries as you guys identified in some of your earlier reviewings. So the up-to-date map is a map that we have posted there for you. I'm going to kind of uh focus in on some of the highlights of [2:24:53, 2:25:12]: Of uh that map, but I'm going to refer to the map that's on the board there. You see the big uh heavy per heavy block of gray. Over here. Okay, good. That big block of gray represents the Bulkan area. That area is identified as being heavy industrial. [2:25:13, 2:25:33]: The as far as your packet we have included the compatible zoning districts as they relate to each land use designation. We've given you some photographs to kind of give you an idea of what type of developments we're we're talking about. And we more particularly listen zoning districts that relates to that. Since I I focused in on the working property first. [2:25:33, 2:25:37]: Can you back with one little panel? [2:25:38, 2:25:41]: Do you want to back up? [2:25:42, 2:26:02]: Now that area between uh this is my community in here, we changed this designation, right? Mixed use. Right, uh-huh. Okay, so it referred to the map there, you can see the area there, the pink shading is the area, is the is the uh represents the mixed use. Okay, so you did it with that. [2:26:02, 2:26:06]: Derivative. [2:26:07, 2:26:27]: Right. So for highlights we are when I mentioned the uh the the vulton piece, the bulletin piece being an industrial designation, uh being heavy industrial means it would it could both accompany both light industrial uses, heavy industrial uses as well as commercial zones could appear in that area that's shown with the with the [2:26:27, 2:26:47]: The big block of gray of both the property. We did go into the plan map and broke out heavy versus light. The light industrial designations is the uh light gray, and then the heavy is the dark gray. And um again at any point in time you want to make reference, you can refer to this document where the photographs are and you can [2:26:46, 2:27:06]: see there's some pictures of big heavy warehouses, big distribution centers. That's more that's representative of heavy heavy industrial uses and the manufacturing type plants are very heavy. The other special highlight on this plant is the uh is the deep pink purple area. [2:27:06, 2:27:08]: That's our [2:27:09, 2:27:12]: That's the new downtown district. [2:27:12, 2:27:24]: Uh we've been saying over and over again the L LCI plan that's taken into account revisions. The LCI plan was approved in 2012, I believe. And some of those visions that was put forth then [2:27:25, 2:27:45]: we s we still recognize it as being uh relevant today. And that downtown district being one of those, having a core downtown area to kind of identify and give some some character and identification to what the city of Stockbridge is is a very important feature. That zoning district uh would primarily incorporate mixed use type developments. [2:27:45, 2:28:05]: In this use, there you can see municipal sample photographs. We certainly encourage pedestrian oriented streets with street furniture. We encourage the type of commercial development where there's commercial retail on the bottom and residential type uses on top. There can be also office. [2:28:04, 2:28:24]: type of environments incorporated into this. So these shoes could be a it could be an entanglement of both residential office and commercial or it could be it could be commercial in office or residential in office or residential in commercial. But again the downtown district will provide us with that opportunity to have a focal point so that the cities can [2:28:24, 2:28:44]: Identify with. And then surrounding that, there is also what we refer to public institutional type uses. These type users could certainly support very easily around the downtown area, and you can see on the map there are some green areas and some green shades that represents park area, park park. [2:28:44, 2:29:04]: properties as well as the properties that are suitable for public space. The property where we are now in City Hall is actually located in that in that downtown district. That downtown district actually runs from uh I think it's Blood Street down to 2nd Avenue. [2:29:04, 2:29:09]: It's pretty much the range of where that uh downtown district will be represented. [2:29:10, 2:29:15]: The other highlights uh we talked about are the mixed use conditions. [2:29:16, 2:29:19]: You can see on the map there's quite a bit of pink shading. [2:29:19, 2:29:39]: On the map. That P shape uh represents once before that was our commercial corridors where we where most of the strip commercial occurs. This map now uh suggests that the area is more suited for mixed use so that we don't encourage more core type of commercial development, that we can get more inclusive. [2:29:39, 2:29:59]: type development where you have mixed use where you enter into a development and all the core elements of that done are internal. So there's so we have pretty much along all our major corals in around 675 to 75 we introduce the pink shading which is the mixed use designations. [2:30:00, 2:30:06]: The other designation we have addressed is we refer to as luminity vertical. [2:30:06, 2:30:26]: And medium medium density vertical mixed use. When we say when we mention the word vertical, we're talking about mixed use where they're stacked. Photographs on walls sort of indicate the type of element we're talking about where you uses our stacked on top, not the old-fashioned uh model layout where you start out with a new. [2:30:26, 2:30:46]: Here, we venture over to this area here. That's not the type of development because we're encouraging its use because Nixuse is more favorable for pedestrians. I mean, if you're going to be a walkable community, everything has to be in a somewhat in a tight cluster. When you have those stripped-out corners, they exhaust the infrastructure in terms of having moment. [2:30:46, 2:31:05]: the sidewalks in order to connect uses and so that a long walk is not always as desirable as a nice short intimate walk. So the misuse areas will encourage by having restable users would make better use of the land and would involve more pedestrian activity. [2:31:06, 2:31:18]: The um what's the sea on some the um residential, um you can see that we've represented the low disk residential with the pale yellow [2:31:19, 2:31:39]: color. There's a certain want to continue to protect that low density in residential areas, but we also recognize that there is a need for um increased density to some extent because we need rooftops in order to start economic development. And again, but the way we have addressed these these densities [2:31:39, 2:31:40]: Um [2:31:41, 2:31:56]: is primarily uh in mixed use areas where we where we where we desire high density type development. But when we get into medium density and low density, low density we're talking about one two units per acre. That's in the uh in the uh [2:31:57, 2:32:17]: I don't know if the colors may be a little from the distance, we may not be able to distinguish all the colors, but the county all peach areas are low low density. And then the other color is medium density residential, which is about two to three units per acre. So we do continue to to preserve the residual characters, but at the same time that deep um yellow [2:32:17, 2:32:21]: is the area where we are encouraging more um [2:32:24, 2:32:32]: but we're encouraging more more um contested element in terms of uh the mixed use further type uh development [2:32:34, 2:32:35]: Let's see um [2:32:37, 2:32:57]: Those are the major highlights of the those are some of the changes that we have made from sort of first viewing. So that we have incorporated your visioning as well as the visioning of the community. So I think this represents a good direction for the city of Stockbridge. Just keep in mind that this is a guide for [2:32:57, 2:33:17]: future development as market trends come in you have those commercial ports where they're all stripped out but as new development comes comes along they'll be they'll have to get along they'll have to fit into the new complaint. I will say that most times when a company is adopted it also pushes along changes some zoning orders. Now we can [2:33:17, 2:33:37]: You go to the zoning orders and then you begin to tweak your zoning districts so that all the districts that we have recognized is being compatible for these areas, you want to make sure that they also incorporate the type of uses that you find desirable. And then at the same time, that sometimes this lins off more designing guidelines, so you want to make sure that we do get the appropriate. [2:33:37, 2:33:57]: The style of street furniture, that we do get signage that's complimentary and that's cohesive in a mixed use environment. So the um so as the city grows and changes and the changes and development do come along, we will have a plan that represents a vision for the type of community that you'd like to see. [2:33:56, 2:33:58]: Mm. [2:34:00, 2:34:20]: So I kind of hit the highlights kind of briefly for you, kind of bring you to this point where we are now. Certainly at this point we're in the process of trying to get this document uh submitted to DCA. Today's meeting is a opportunity for the city council to adopt a resolution so that we can afford the document to DCA. [2:34:20, 2:34:40]: Once they do their reviews, they'll either give us revisions, come us back, we'll take the time to address those revisions, and once all those revisions are addressed, which we we suspect that the month of September will be the month that they would spend time reviewing it. So it's our hope that by the end of September, we'll have a plan. [2:34:40, 2:34:57]: That we'll have optimum to address any visuals as necessary, and then we'll go to plan adoption in the month of October. And with that adoption, the framework will be laid for us to begin type development stuff is to entice type development in that to city. [2:34:58, 2:35:18]: Uh have uh you um um second uh rather night yet. Have you all looked us on? Yeah oh yeah. And then uh do you have any questions on that? I think that what I think mayor council needs [2:35:18, 2:35:38]: To notice that the whole concept of plans have changed. Once upon a time, what we only see stock is you got commercial here, and you got to go somewhere and see something else. Where now everything is being clustered together. So, you know, you go into an area and everything is right there. We're trying to force people. [2:35:38, 2:35:58]: People out of their cars, but they don't say live, work, and play. So what this takes you to from the old concept of where you have separate uses and you have to do a lot of walking and a lot of driving to areas where you've got the live, work, and play community, where somebody can actually live upstairs, walk around the corner and go to work, and then go out. [2:35:58, 2:36:02]: cleaners at the corner. So this takes us more toward an inward. [2:36:02, 2:36:22]: design um Brookhaven they just finished their you follow me? It takes us more towards that. And what we hope is that for instance where like big lock is right now that's just a commercial script, right? But let's just say that somebody came in and they said you know what I'm gonna buy out this [2:36:22, 2:36:42]: whole plasma. And what I choose to do, rather than have a big lot here and a dollar here, let's just drop it all and come up with residential above, keep me some stuff on the bottom, and then circle that with some nice out clusters. What this will say is going forward, the old type development along the linear that we [2:36:42, 2:37:02]: See along Highway 138. Just trying to get away from that. You're going more towards condensed bearing uses in clusters. The the in in many communities about you know our size, operating the size of the roof, um swan is some skin Lawrenceville. Um [2:37:02, 2:37:22]: have incorporated some of these new traditional type uh developments where we got the mix traditions that Camilla talked about. The hope is even in our downtown area that one day we will see you know offices, we'll see restaurants, we'll see apartments, we'll townhomes or some other residential feature where all of that come together and creates this [2:37:22, 2:37:35]: synergy downtown that you see in some other places. And so you know we've you've taken you council taking a big step by one conducting your own comprehensive planning process. Essentially [2:37:35, 2:37:37]: I know what the fact is. [2:37:38, 2:37:58]: where we're where you're charting the course for your future and embracing some of these um new innovative concepts that hopefully allow the city to grow uh in a fashion um that that brings people down uh in and around downtown, helps cultural development and also reaches out to millennials in a way. [2:37:58, 2:38:05]: is attractive for the millennial generation and hopefully discharge the course of what we'll see in the next five to ten to fifteen years. [2:38:05, 2:38:25]: Um right. It's also attracted to millennials as well as seniors because the last year more poor community for seniors. They're also becoming very popular for families. We find a lot of these issues around they provide open green so that they can create that recreational area for for young families with young small children. So they are that does of offer certain burden [2:38:25, 2:38:28]: [9508.9, 9528.9]: Yeah. The reason I was looking at that because the statistics show that in the next twenty years, every day someone is turning sixty three years old. Twenty thousand Americans turning sixty. That's why you have we have that one senior limited open up. [2:38:48, 2:39:08]: three to six year waiting list. And so those type of uh development, those areas we we know they're highly needed. Uh we want to attract the millennials, but we want to make sure we're attracting those seniors also. Yeah but what this would be for the seniors, let's just take the one on red oak that we talked about. Those were developed along the old [2:39:08, 2:39:28]: Pattern, which means that they actually don't have to get in their car, and they're actually gonna have to drive up the street to a restaurant. What this means is that you're gonna put the seniors above on the second and third floor, and then they can come down and go to pizza place, come down and go to the cleaners. You know, it'll put the commercial within walking distance so that they won't have [2:39:28, 2:39:48]: have to get in their car. Okay, is it swine? Is is that what the project is? I see that there's one that's had the board up on uh corporate center when he was landing on a hill up there. They have a sign saying senior building, I guess that would be kinda in the middle. It was kinda in the middle. [2:39:48, 2:40:08]: They came and talked to us about it, but it's gonna be more along the line of uh red. You know, when we had those conversations, we had talked about them doing a little mix, but based on what we're doing thus far, this year going the old traditional line. But we know that businesses stay open if you can pick the people who shop and close park center. [2:40:08, 2:40:25]: I mean if the cleaners is right downstairs, the likelihood of their cleaners staying open is going to be great because everybody's going to go right downstairs or the pizza place or the drugstore. So particularly for our seniors, we really want to ensure those types of donors so they don't have to get in their car. Let's say you want to. [2:40:26, 2:40:46]: Any other questions we got? Okay, so this is also a um a public uh hearing aspect, so I'll open up the public hearing. Any citizens that want to make any comments for the comments plan on this side? Anybody against on the left side? Against the [2:40:46, 2:41:01]: So in this case uh we need to make a motion to accept this comprehensive plan. So counsel any motion please. There we go. Any further discussion? [2:41:02, 2:41:04]: All in favor of accepting a conference plan, please in the game. [2:41:06, 2:41:26]: Okay, I think we answer it. Thank you very much for the app. Thank you all for well, Mr. Bill. Goodbye. Thank you. Now we have to do our zoning ordinance to bear um the cost. Okay. All right, good stuff. That was a quick question on that. [2:41:26, 2:41:46]: Uh one, two, three buildings now. Way, you got uh the service, I don't know what service they call it for. The zone's going right there. And you're right, I think you said we'll deal do with something with the zoning for the [2:41:46, 2:42:02]: Making sure that we don't get those uh those mops type businesses coming over there. Okay. Right, so new business. Council consideration of the name of the cities have all orders regarding open container district. It was more pleased. [2:42:03, 2:42:23]: Great. Uh we've had some discussion about um making sure that particularly in our downtown area, I think it's what it pertains to, that as businesses come downtown, we want them to be able to go in a restaurant and if they have a beer, come out with the beer and you know, just walk downtown. [2:42:23, 2:42:29]: To not to allow them to do that. Um the guy that what's the name of the pool place? [2:42:29, 2:42:49]: Smoky cube. Smokey Q. Uh one of the things that he talked about as we're moving to the fall activities is like, well, you know, I'd like the people to be able to be coming to beer and then go out and listen to the music and all of that. So what this will do, it would allow people to have open containers downtown in our downtown district. Downtown district out there. [2:42:50, 2:42:52]: Okay. Um [2:42:54, 2:42:58]: Councillor Genny questions for uh Ms. Moore. [2:42:58, 2:43:18]: So she has a good question. How we designate that? We're going to designate that by the map. And then the comp planning actually has a geographical boundary that deals with what our downtown is. You can make that smaller, but it shouldn't go anywhere beyond that. So I know we have some checking to do from I think the church or something at the end of the [2:43:18, 2:43:28]: perform, we have to do a business requirement, but other than that, once we make that distance requirement, then the orders will allow open containers. Alright? [2:43:29, 2:43:49]: So council no questions? So in this aspect um this is a new agenda, we get a certain item. So we need certain certain understanding. If if you are okay within geographic area being a downtown district that's set for [2:43:49, 2:43:50]: Yeah, [2:43:54, 2:44:10]: amendment to the ordinance allowing the uh possession of open containers in that district. That's all it is. The distance requirements for the church would still apply based on where the [2:44:10, 2:44:30]: uh the beverages are purchased that it wouldn't apply based on where they're consumed or where the possession is. So it's really all need to make a judgment call if you wanted that district, or if you wanted somewhat smaller just to be the area over there. We we just need to hear that from you. Look at the motion needs to identify the [2:44:30, 2:44:50]: streets themselves, that's what this street and streets itself? Yeah, or or unless you want us to bring back a mat so you can actually see it and be comfortable with that. But when you have what's in the comp plan that may be a little too too yeah. So if you want us to bring something clearer for you, we can do that. I would like clear. [2:44:49, 2:45:09]: I would like for you to bring something else back here so that way we'll know exactly what we're voting on. Yeah. I got a question. Are we trying to get this in before before the uh Yeah, I have to have another meeting before the uh uh can we get a recommendation A A or B one or two? [2:45:09, 2:45:24]: Yeah I think that's what we can bring that and just and we can shrink it. In other words, we can set uh timetable on it, in other words we can say that open container will apply to the entire district, but at this point in time the boundaries are missed. [2:45:25, 2:45:45]: One block, you know, and just identify that. Well with the area I'm sorry. With the area map, can you just kind of like give us a uh you know with the with the with the different because I know with the uh the brake stats is a bigger footprint than we ever seen, so what are the you know, how do you do that? Well the uh the amendment that you all thought the [2:45:45, 2:46:05]: Two meetings ago or whatever for city events, that's still a lot. Yeah, but I'm just saying the footprint world was the change ago. You know, what what's the footprint?'Cause it it's a it's a wide range, that's all I'm saying. We I would suggest us bringing back a map to you on the September tenth meeting, if that's okay.'Cause I think what Mr. Blond is saying is that you're rocky. [2:46:05, 2:46:07]: Um [2:46:08, 2:46:28]: Over here on this side where the main concert is, that's across the track. And open containers says that people can drink and do what they do that we normally do. Right? So we do need when we bring it back, we'll make sure that we include all of the areas. Um because we're definitely going to have to draw it down to the amphitheater. [2:46:28, 2:46:34]: So we'll bring back something that takes the amphitheater, probably back over to nursery, somewhere like that. [2:46:35, 2:46:55]: Yeah, that was gonna be my concern for Bridge Fest if you make a purchase at uh the pool hall. But you're walking to your car, I think market is gonna be at the Cultural Art Center facility. Right. So if you're walking in that direction, are you in compliance or you're out of compliance? Right. [2:46:55, 2:47:15]: save this from the place of purchase. Okay. Right. Right. Well I mean you're raising a couple of things, I think. You know once we draw the line, whatever the map is, as long as you're inside the map you're good. Once you cross over and I don't know if if Culture Arts facility will be in that map or not. [2:47:15, 2:47:35]: My question is in regards to the effective date because you tie it to the comp plan, you say the comp [2:47:35, 2:47:55]: plan is getting to be adopted in October, but the ordinance will be dated whatever today date is if you so choose to adopt it today. So my question is when is the effective a map that's somewhat different for the count plan it will be whatever effective date the council decides. Or you mean it's the same [2:47:55, 2:48:15]: Yeah, but you just about that horse bowl. Or just yeah, or you can reference the map. Whichever way I would I'm thinking that if we're gonna bring you a couple of different maps, it'll be that map and it won't reference the kind of plan. Just just the course you can see. Yeah, but real quick, we have to believe that we learn. [2:48:15, 2:48:35]: have to because I I saw it on that and then parking lines to kinda on the outskirts. We would have to block those off because if we don't then we're saying we're promoting all the containers going into your car. So we have to block those off. Okay. Okay. I I was just gonna ask other than the fool hall actually settling would that be [2:48:35, 2:48:55]: We do. We have a couple of things. CC has, I think we have three that actually does or umana, but they're going to be on their footprint. They've submitted um to come with them station, but they're out there throughout the footprint. [2:48:54, 2:49:14]: I think we tried they should have done that all together. So I think we talked about the pool hall and where those visions are data in the ATM side. Any more questions on that? No. Okay, so otherwise I think when we agreed to table this. [2:49:14, 2:49:34]: Then tell you get additional information on the map itself and that would be coming for us at our next council meeting. Right. And Melinda and I get on that tomorrow and we could actually have your map before then. And so I mean if you look at the map and you do a consensus, but we can do your map pretty quickly. Well map and then of course the actual res of the the the actual [2:49:34, 2:49:54]: That's ordinance itself. Ordinance in any of the additional language that needs to be needs to be a part of the narrative that makes any circumstriptions. Okay. Um there's some other things, nuances to how you maybe want to look at it as well. So I think everything needs to be brought by its message on this one. Okay. If there is a map that we can provide to you, [2:49:54, 2:50:14]: Okay, technically that that let's solve that for now. I have here next council. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Council consideration to approve the budget amendment two eighteen-005. Mr. Wiggins, please. [2:50:14, 2:50:33]: Yes, but well I'm gonna let you go to the end on the January because we have uh things two of them. Right. So on the first one, back in January, uh you guys approved the creation of the permitting and building budget. [2:50:33, 2:50:53]: However, we didn't take the necessary actions to actually finalize that. So what we're doing tonight is that when we created the budget, we had no idea in terms of what the possible revenues would be because we didn't have any prior history from Henry Campbell. So therefore we just decided [2:50:53, 2:51:13]: To look at what we would actually bring in actually to determine the budget for the year. So at this point in time, we have generated income$39,000,000 and we've expended$179,000. So therefore, we would like to set the budget for the remaining of the year to$400,000. So we have [2:51:13, 2:51:30]: have to have a budget amount in that account so that we can do revenues and expenditures. Everybody with me? So that's what we're asking you to do to make sure. I wanted to write this uh to repeat that again the numbers [2:51:30, 2:51:42]: 385 309 88302 and I can provide this to you. Okay. And 179-909-45 score. [2:51:42, 2:52:02]: Okay. And so what that means is that before we uh finish um this budget process, the only data that we have to kind of help us project what we need to set aside next year is based on what we think we will do by the end of the year. So on the track that we're going, we think [2:52:02, 2:52:22]: That probably our first year, we're probably looking at just a budget amount of about a half a million dollars. And then I think that is probably where we're going to end it by the end of the year. And so then we'll set that budget amount going into 219. And then as we get along mid-year, we'll be able to see whether or not we're still on track. [2:52:22, 2:52:42]: Has picked up or if the development has decreased, but we will have an opportunity. You know, I just want the citizens to know one of the things that we discovered, you know, for the 30, 40 years that Henry County did this for us, we had no we have no idea of knowing how much money was generated during the good times or the bad times. So we're just working out the numbers. [2:52:42, 2:52:51]: that we have right now to actually set up a budget that we think works for us at this period of time. [2:52:53, 2:53:13]: We talked about it earlier. For the three fifty nine, the one seventy nine is removed from that way. Yes. So which put us about one eighty to the city, one seventy nine. This I don't know the the input. So it's about fifty fifty. Well, some of my fifty fifty is some of the sixty forties, but we can give that information for the the specific. [2:53:12, 2:53:32]: we're dealing with is because we have a but we need to have a budget in order to do expenditures and receive to make sure that the book's balanced, that's what we're asking to allow us to set in that budget is 400,000. No, and that's I'm fine with that. Well what I'm trying to get I'm saying on that one we're looking at one seventy nine and one eighty forty three fifty nine. Right. [2:53:32, 2:53:47]: added right now is that 170 179 179 out of the 180 because we have a higher number than they have and they I know they get a higher percentage. What else is coming out of the 80s? Nothing else. [2:53:47, 2:54:01]: Now this one. We get our upfront cost for setup. Um and that's basically it. And of course we have uh the position that we're asking for when we talk about doing a luxury treatment that would come out of that, and that's basically it. [2:54:03, 2:54:05]: Mr. Correct. [2:54:06, 2:54:15]: I won't talk about it now, but I'll let you know that I'm coming with a lot of questions about um [2:54:16, 2:54:36]: Revenue versus expenses. Yeah, and I we got all that. I think once you sit down and see the chart you will see it when you actually look at all the uh invoices. And the reason because when I look at the the budget, what I'm what I'm seeing I'm having uh some issues with with some of that. But uh I'm too [2:54:36, 2:54:56]: But I think like Mr. Mont sat down with us today. I think when you actually sit down, we actually it'll make a lot more sense. We're making money. A dollar. You know, and it's gonna tell how much we miss over the years and and that's why we go back to revenue. [2:54:56, 2:54:56]: Yeah. [2:54:56, 2:55:16]: Well, but it's just like your IT people downstairs. I mean, you have your contractors. I mean, if you want to talk about what did Henry County do in terms of staff, right? Because when you bring these people, it's just like an IT people there, interdate us, right? I mean you give them places because they become a part of your city because you say you want them here by the [2:55:16, 2:55:30]: days a week, right? And so that's the cost of doing business. What I am saying is that in terms of cost, if we had to go out and hire six people, if we had to go out and hire six people to bring in house. [2:55:31, 2:55:41]: we will be in the rig a whole lot. That's all I'm saying. So every dime we're making outside of providing space in terms of startup costs, it doesn't cost the city anything. [2:55:43, 2:55:50]: No, I I I trust me, I I get that part, but I'm I'm just looking at it from from a true sense of [2:55:50, 2:56:10]: there are other expenses. But I mean but once you break it down to me I'm sure uh I will agree. But I'm just going on to agree. I'm just going on what I see right now. And I I I'm just like uh McCain, you know, if I make a mistake I'm willing to uh to say it. But we're we're t I'm just making that [2:56:10, 2:56:30]: So what we need now is a motion to accept this, to accept the budget amount 400,000. That's that correct? Just simply like that. That's what we're doing. For expense and revenue. Okay. For expense and revenue. Council somebody moved. Good. All right. Any further discussion? All favor please indicate. [2:56:30, 2:56:36]: Yeah. All right. Now we still have something else we still have to be. Yes, sec the second one is um [2:56:37, 2:56:57]: We're trying to you want to we you created a a fund number three fifty three that's for the citywide uh capital projects. That's pretty much what you saw earlier the CIP. Clarification. Okay. The one that uh John is speaking to now is budget number two zero one. [2:56:57, 2:57:04]: That's correct. We need to assign the budget number to one that we just approved the 401. [2:57:06, 2:57:09]: You wanna make that a little six? Yeah, that would be comfy. [2:57:11, 2:57:31]: We need to restate that in the motion or we just accept it as it is. I thought would you just approve the the two sets of rubber. Separate separately. So which one the one I'm sorry, the one that was approved with the budget named before the other one that was approved. There's another [2:57:31, 2:57:51]: Proposed budget amendment for 50,000 for TSW budget. Well we we did a motion for a second one. What if well we did a motion for$400,000? We didn't have a motion, we didn't have an amendment. My point is, do we need to assign a number or do we need to actually go back? [2:57:51, 2:58:11]: Well sign the number of that that's the question is if you go to the first one. Yes, we do. Okay, okay, time. So for the second one, okay. Yeah, we got two okay. Yeah. Two zero one eight. Well, the creation of three fifty-three for the CY capital projects. [2:58:11, 2:58:31]: We uh we want to do if we ask the council to approve the budget amendment to move 50,000 that was uh originally approved in April for TSW, uh removing it from the general fund into this three into this 353 fund and so we can be [2:58:31, 2:58:51]: A to capture all the costs that's gonna be associated with uh all of the capital projects and city wide going forward. And that's basically that's basically what slow finances asked. Okay. Any questions from John about this? I mean a motion to accept this and then flooding and so [2:58:51, 2:59:11]: Oh so you okay. Any further discussion? All those indicate? Three hours. So Mr. Mayor, what I understand for the city first question is because you voted on three different amendments. No, two two two certain so okay, so that you have the uh budget amendment that had the four hundred thousand [2:59:10, 2:59:22]: plus the fifty thousand. That's budget amendment twenty eighteen oh oh five and the second one was project amendment no I separated the second one was oh oh six that's what that's what I was [2:59:24, 2:59:44]: Okay. And what is next, uh council consideration for to amend the reschedule for the park providing and municipal rentals in the city parks after one January twenty nineteen. Good accident. I am here making a request that the city increase [2:59:44, 2:59:55]: the pavilion and the zero rental fees for 2019 up after January 2nd. And they will increase as follows. [2:59:55, 2:59:56]: The current resident. [2:59:58, 3:00:11]: for half a day from April to September from$75 to$100. And full day for residents from$100 to$150. [3:00:11, 3:00:31]: Non-residents from 100 to 150 on half days, and non-residents full day from April to September 150 to 300. On the Zebro rental from April through September, the resident fee from 60 to 85, and for the full day, April to September from 75 to 100. [3:00:31, 3:00:51]: For non-resident half day September, April to September 75 to 100, and full day for non-residents 100 to 125. On the pavilion rental from October to March, there is no half-day rental, it's a full day for residents from March. [3:00:51, 3:01:11]: 100 to 150 and for non-residents 150 to 200. Likewise with the gazebo rental, there is no half day for residents$75 to 100 and for non-residents 100 to 125. And I can tell you that the city of Jonesboro will be [3:01:11, 3:01:20]: Looked at currently charges$100 per hour with a minimum of three hours and a$25. [3:01:22, 3:01:42]: We said when we uh brought this forward in 2016 to go into effect 2017, that we would do this incrementally because it cost to maintain the parts, to bring in new equipment and all of that. So we would we were not going to give our citizens stick a shop, but at the same time [3:01:42, 3:02:00]: Yes. Yes, sir. I like to uh uh most that we approve the council service and hand the deschedule parking to deal rentals of the city possible January first in 19. Is it second? [3:02:02, 3:02:17]: Zero second. Okay, there's no any further discussion. Uh uh yes. Uh we we we we raised the fees uh I think once during our term already. Is that correct? [3:02:17, 3:02:37]: We did. We um increased the fees in twenty sixteen. Right. I think we'll take two seventy right. I think we have been doing a great job of telling the public we're in a great financial situation and that we have uh about eighteen million dollars in our reserve funds. So how can we be in [3:02:37, 3:02:57]: In the growth financial situation that we're in, justify raising the rate when we have uh all of these monies in excess. Um I just I voted for one increase. I just don't want to set the precedents that we're raising these rates on a regular basis. Uh there's the financial justification. [3:02:57, 3:03:17]: Of our surrounding areas is pretty potent, but at the same time, our overall books don't support that at these current levels we can still maintain this rate as a benefit to our citizens. I'm more concerned about the residents that live here. [3:03:17, 3:03:37]: in support increasing a fee for residents that live here, I might be able to, even though I wouldn't want to, increase the fees on non-residents, but uh I just don't I think I've already voted for one increase myself. I wouldn't want to vote for a separate increase. Okay, and for the college. Um [3:03:37, 3:03:57]: I I motion to approve it because uh since I've been here I've seen uh special needs equipment, I've seen improvements to the parks, I've seen uh upgrades to the park, and uh and when you go to the park and you look at what we are offering in our parks, over the Clark Park, Dog Park and all these other areas, the expense to the park is going up are going up. [3:03:57, 3:04:17]: Uh I think that even with this fee uh increase, it's still below the level when you look at other parks of what they're paying and what they're getting from other parks. So I think that when we look at the city of Stockbridge, you know, it's not Maybear. You know, this this is uh we're growing and building up parks and we've been and we put so much in these parks. [3:04:17, 3:04:26]: We put hundreds of thousands of dollars in these parks, whether splotch funds or uh or what? And so the fee that we're gonna be charging for these parks for all day. [3:04:27, 3:04:47]: You can still it would not decrease any participation in these parts, I guarantee. Um and they all act together. And I've heard [3:04:46, 3:05:06]: from many um participants that they hate to rent that because someone else is renting B and somebody else is renting C and you as close as uh Council Blount I am with A and B. So um yeah do you get in [3:05:06, 3:05:26]: Any any pushback uh on that issue as far as you know there's no privacy at Clark at O3 to leave? Because you just the only thing I can say today is uh Clark Park is the first one to rent. Uh when we uh when people really see what's available, the first part they want is [3:05:26, 3:05:45]: The second park is uh memorial park and the third park is garden. And I had asked and this is oh you're gonna hear when we talked about the improvement that we need to do to um garden park. A lot of people wrap in the lead seal garden park, we need to change the signage and we need to reply. [3:05:45, 3:06:05]: Change the playground, so there are some areas that we've spoken to because it is Gardner is last on the list and it has the most space between its pavilions, but it's just not the one. But Clark Park is always the first one to rent, and they we the reason we have it on the agenda for today is because we already [3:06:05, 3:06:25]: already have a list of people wanting to rent the park in twenty nineteen. But we told them about a proposed increase in fees. They've asked us to keep them on the list and let us know as soon as it's available so they can go ahead and vote. So they know even though there's a a proposed fee increase rent and they won't rent. Last question. [3:06:24, 3:06:35]: So with that uh A B and C, is there any plan if someone wants to rent out three? [3:06:36, 3:06:56]: Is there a discount if you rent also? There's not a currency discount if you're the foreign rent offering or the entire park. We also we also have people who rent the entire park. They take A, B, C, and D. And they do that far in advance. So at the other pavilion is that um [3:06:56, 3:06:58]: E and F or put it. [3:06:58, 3:07:04]: That's D. D. That's D. Only D. D. Okay. [3:07:05, 3:07:25]: No. That that that those pavilions I sort of know kind of those pavilions are sexual. That's what we're talking about. But most family unions and church and all that, they know they're rent we're we're not having lack and rent that whole pavilion off at all. Because what we're renting that whole [3:07:24, 3:07:30]: Well what the what the parks crew will normally do is they'll turn [3:07:30, 3:07:50]: This way, B this way, and C that way. So that we're not right there. Okay. Okay. Any questions on this side? Okay, so we have a motion on the floor that's already been sat and so all discusses good handles, so all in favor of the motion, which is to accept these uh changes and increase. [3:07:50, 3:08:00]: in the feature metaphor, the zero and the um the actual um gradient. [3:08:01, 3:08:14]: Oh polls? Oh that means we are two three that means I I break the time. Okay, well I'll be done. I say Christopher's Christopher's. Okay, thank you. [3:08:14, 3:08:34]: Actually, number uh sixteen deals with the council of the fill of vacancy on the planning commission. Now, I said I'm going to suggest a recommendation that we actually talk about this in the second session before we go before we make this announcement, please. If the council is willing to do that. Okay. Okay, we'll do this in the [3:08:34, 3:08:54]: I was under the mind to ask to table this because the issue I have with this, uh, and I was looking at the package and I talked a little bit more about this, about the the qualification of these, and I mentioned this. [3:08:54, 3:09:14]: for the application process it just does not lend itself to the experience of these applicants. In some way somehow um we need to do that and I'm just looking at the ones that we have the client you have one person that's uh a landscaper but the other look [3:09:14, 3:09:34]: We have one as a nurse and we have one that's something else. And uh we you know we just need to have a little bit more um um applicants that that can relate to plan. Additionally, I think there was a note I sent out last night regarding previous. [3:09:34, 3:09:54]: applications that have been submitted they are part of the majority. And let me just add um what Mr. Thomas had a meeting and he asked me to do was that there was a discussion about these boards bringing back job descriptions so that when you put those out there [3:09:54, 3:10:14]: somebody looking for to see what the job description was. So I look to the FPA every planning commission and asked them to just send a job description on people that normally would make up a planning commission order. And so I just applied that you know to everybody. But you know that's just a basic job description. That is if you want to use it at some point. [3:10:14, 3:10:34]: Time, but I emailed it to each of you, and basically, uh, and this is just for planning, it is designed to have training in fields such as planning, architecture, law, civil engineering, geology, economics, and mathematics. And those are just what they say. That doesn't mean they have to be, but just because the request. [3:10:34, 3:10:52]: was made for me to get a job description, I always go to the American Planning Association and this is what they said, and I just modified the slide for it. So this is what I want to say to this. As someone who served on a board as a planning commission person, you want [3:10:52, 3:11:07]: the moms. You want the dads or or or or or uh those in the community. This is a citizen review board. If you might want to suggest those items, but [3:11:07, 3:11:27]: You just want regular folks who live in the community to now with the DEA board that might be that's different. But with the Planning Commission, you just want regular citizens to apply. And I don't want anybody to be discouraged from applying. I just want to put we might be able to put this out there as some type of uh, you know, okay, well [3:11:27, 3:11:47]: You might suggest this, but I don't want anybody to feel like that they shouldn't apply. And let me just say I agree that Cis is volunteer, but that comprehensive plan that you just put up in you talking about the growth of your city. You were probably great because you were real. So, you know, for me in the government's not working. [3:11:47, 3:12:07]: With they pretty happy to come from those areas that have something to do with development of land. Because as you know, based on the prior chairman of the planning commission, is why we got some of the stuff we gotta stop reaching back. So, you know, I just look at this board as being crucial. I think everyone should apply. [3:12:07, 3:12:27]: Doesn't mean that they can't get trained because they can't. All I'm just saying is that I was asked to produce a job prescription. I went to the industry that does it. And this is what they recommend in terms of making sure you have the most effective folks. In other words, your turnaround time in terms of decision making. You as a realtor, when you said that. [3:12:27, 3:12:47]: But somebody started talking about commercial, because you do real estate, you keep lean. You knew because that's what you do every day. And so that's why a lot of these more particular clinics have leaned in that. Doesn't mean that it can't be people who have no experience. I just facilitated what was asked of you to do. [3:12:47, 3:13:07]: I just want to make sure that these are suggestions and not requirements. Yes, sir, go ahead. My point was in their application process, uh some of this information need to be listed if they have that experience. [3:13:07, 3:13:27]: The application process lend itself to uh that type of information. I would say not to these individuals because the actual job description came after the fact. So I made a suggestion earlier that we talked about the second session these individuals. I don't I don't know if you all still want to do that or not, or I even want to have [3:13:27, 3:13:47]: We got some zonings pending, right? We got some people we need we need to get them going, right? Right, but as a matter of fact, the last problem was we had that one P one person designed, that was okay, but then another person had a family emergency. So that's why we had the form that was short. But at this point in time, [3:13:47, 3:14:07]: I guess this is a a point for by the mayor and council. Um so I'm just trying to understand um the the council that's sitting here, we didn't all come in with the expertise to do what we're doing. [3:14:07, 3:14:27]: We had to be trained and we're continuing to be trained. Um, to me, whatever the the wishes of the mayor and council, it seems like to me, staff is the one that's gonna make sure these people are trained, um, aware of what mayor council want for the city. Um so I I'm just trying to understand. [3:14:27, 3:14:47]: I mean, if people live here and they have the heart for it and they're the willingness to do that, I think to me that's where the staff will come in and make sure that they're trained, um, just like we're being trained. Because like I said, I I'm just being personal, but right now I came in, I knew nothing about government. [3:14:47, 3:15:07]: say in my three years, I mean I have I mean it's I I've seen a lot and I've accomplished. But at the same time it's a lot of work when it came to training. Um so I don't wanna just eliminate somebody just because they don't have it. Because like I said, none of us up here was trained were you trained to be a mayor? [3:15:07, 3:15:27]: Uh no but you do OJ TMA but that's right, it comes with training. So I just don't want to put that out there that that's what we're looking for. Um this is standard. I agree. I agree. Uh that I that's okay. But at the same time, when you have willing vessels [3:15:27, 3:15:47]: You look at what we're getting. So at the same time, I don't want to discredit their willingness to work with their community. I think what the mayor the point he was making is that those people may have this experience, but they didn't know to put it because there was no job description. I think that's the point he was making. [3:15:47, 3:16:07]: I was asked to get this information and it didn't come in time for these applications. But for me, if people know what you're expecting, even if I don't have it, it doesn't stay on there just because you don't have this. Because when you look at the second page, it basically talks about using the community person and your willingness to do those things. All it does is to set a [3:16:06, 3:16:21]: criteria so that your folks you don't have to spend a whole lot of time hitting the ground late. Yet people with a basic understanding just because they don't have a basic understanding does not disqualify them from making a whole I'm good at that. [3:16:22, 3:16:42]: Okay, so my subsidies we'll have further discussion on these individuals' defenses. Okay. On that note, Council, to what discussion purposes the council discussion on moratorium for certain businesses in the city. Mr. Williams, please. Mr. Mayer, during the uh budget for Trink uh we had a uh discussion about a potential moratorium on certain types of business. [3:16:42, 3:17:02]: businesses. But my recollection we never had any discrete uh directives from council, um although we had a fairly robust discussion. And then also my understanding is I recall that Councilwoman Ganttwo has not been the last part of the discussion. Stan be corrected on that, but [3:17:01, 3:17:21]: Um the only list that we do have was the one that was submitted by Council Workniette. Um and on that list I can read it just for the record for tonight. It included uh salons and barbershops, tire shops, lawn and tackle lending shops, neighbor shops, [3:17:21, 3:17:30]: Girls and assignment shops, cash for title, auto shops, use appliance shops, tattoo shops, and so [3:17:30, 3:17:50]: From churches. Um, I think what she was with was assembly uses. Um and so we're sort of at a point where we just need your direction. One uh thought was that a moratorium could be put in place pending final approval of the comprehensive plan. [3:17:50, 3:18:10]: adoption of the zoning codes relative to implementing the recommendations from the town plan, which would probably be about between four to six months. So that would be the length of time for a potential moratorium if if that's a direction of council. But again coming from the discussion of the budget retreat, we didn't begin. [3:18:09, 3:18:29]: Alright. Four or six months that's roughly possibly February of two thousand nineteen, basically. Well well, first of all, you have to put the metric for the zoning order to be updated. And then once they call out so you probably talk in probably January before we get that out of that. And then so we probably try to [3:18:29, 3:18:49]: It doesn't really give us enough time to because we're places on the same distance, single-out churches. So we would have to decide one of those things that we can cap based on population, right? Those things that we do in terms of distance, it gives us enough time to work out formulas that are [3:18:49, 3:19:09]: legal that allows us to address these issues. Okay. Yeah I would like to see formals uh uh pertaining to our city and businesses because we we'll name all of these businesses but I can't I don't have anything to go by to say [3:19:09, 3:19:29]: if a city our size or areas and distances that's too much or not enough. Some of you see we don't want, but we just want to make sure we're in the right place and doing stuff, you know, without uh you know being disruptive and make sure we uh still continue be and, you know, friend into the small businesses. I don't know. [3:19:29, 3:19:49]: No. Right. I don't know how much distance and stuff you need. So let me give you an example. Let's just say that you decide that you want to do a more tourism on salon and barbershops. What that would mean is that we would need to bring back to you the number of salons and barbershop licenses that we have in stock. [3:19:49, 3:20:09]: And then based on CR size, you know what that means in terms of you make this decision. And then at that point in time, you can decide whether or not you're going to cap it based on population, based on distance, some formula would have to come into play that says that. [3:20:09, 3:20:29]: You know, once this number is reached, then you know no more can come until it reaches that number, whatever that is. There needs to be a formula in place, but we have to first reduce a bath. Does that make sense? I mean, for all of these things that you want to put more toward, even on cash those places. We need to come back and say, hey, within this 13.5. [3:20:29, 3:20:49]: Point something miles, you got this many of this, right? And typically for a city outside, you only see that. And based on that, you know, you may want to have this number, and this is how we should cap it, based on distance or something else. Correct. I think we already have that on the chip catches. I think we already have. [3:20:49, 3:21:09]: Employees and probably mustn't be a farm child. It looks like a duck, it walks like a duck, it climbs like a duck. You see it every day. I mean, we walk around the city every single day. You don't know what's in it. I mean, we hear this, I I I just go from what I hear from our residents who live in the city. [3:21:09, 3:21:29]: I hear it every day. I can't walk. I don't want another pawn child, I want another check cash, I don't want another uh this in my city, we got you know all of this going on. I think some of the times we just beat things to death. And um, you know, and if you're talking to the city [3:21:29, 3:21:49]: citizens every single day. You know that they want these things in place. Councilwoman Gantt, I mean Mary Corten Gantt now, Councilwoman Gan, she's been out there listening and she put compiled this data for us with this list. I'm very supportive of this list because I know how she went about it. [3:21:49, 3:22:09]: She went through our social media, she talked to folks in the community, she was active and engaging and just understanding what the community wanted. I don't think anybody's going to complain. And even if we set the moratorium tonight, if somebody with a legitimate [3:22:09, 3:22:29]: Plan came in, they can still come to the council just like the guy did with the uh with the truck, uh, with with the truck repair place, even though the moratorium is in place, that doesn't mean that they gotta come to us to ask or to talk to us for permission. Right, they won't be able to do an application. The only concern that I would say is that you know [3:22:29, 3:22:49]: Constitutionally people have a right to their property and how they use it. And so we have to be very careful when we start talking about more tourism, what you can't allow and not allow. Because some people will tell you that back before segregation, barbecues and beauty chops is what kept us alive. So there's a sensitivity to certain type of uses. I'm just saying that we [3:22:49, 3:23:09]: Before we at the moratorium, if I hold property constitutionally, you have to be very careful in terms of what you tell me I can't and cannot do. You can tell me that I can't do it, but you have to be on legally sound reasoning. All I'm saying is that give us the opportunity to bring back the data. Right. [3:23:09, 3:23:29]: not say this is what we're going to do, we bring you back something that says for community outside, we're oversaturated with these type uses. This is atypical. So in order to bring our community back in line with where it should be, we're recommending that it should be this number versus this number, and we can justify if they decide to serve. [3:23:28, 3:23:48]: That's that's all I'm saying. So otherwise if we agree we want to bring back the data and and for and a temporary standpoint, we have the moratorium in place or things that just goes wrong until we bring back the data. Unless they come before you to appeal [3:23:48, 3:24:08]: Basically what that says is that all applications for receipt of those uses has been halted. And that gives us time to come back and present you some data for you to make a decision how you want to deal with it finally because it can't stay in the moratorium forever. Right. Does that allow that they have to come for us and we'll have to receive it? [3:24:08, 3:24:28]: individually seem to give them to it. Well we would need we would just need a direction of whether it's a motion tonight for these uses or whether he wants to come back with you know it's kind of a chicken or the egg thing and some folks want to see the data before they impose the law colour and others want to oppose the law core so you can get the [3:24:28, 3:24:48]: Well well what you do is you place the moratorium so you can get the data so the unwanted businesses don't pop up in the meantime. So if I'm considering opening one of one of these businesses and I know you've already put out there you want a moratorium, I might rush down here to get the business license for it because [3:24:48, 3:25:08]: I know the moratorium is in place. You freeze in place, you get the data. If the data does not support the moratorium, then you lift it. Okay. Now I agree with the business owners having property rights. That's absolutely constitutionally protected in every single way. The reason that I come about with a [3:25:08, 3:25:28]: Uh this was the barbershops and the beauty salons and stuff. I go in barbershops, don't use beauty salons, but I go in there and talk to the folks. And what they tell me is that there's so much competition, they can't make money, is that they uh well they they they they can't raise prices because there is a cutthroat market. [3:25:28, 3:25:48]: With one being on every corner, everybody's competing based on price more than service, and they're losing so much out. So I want to be small business friendly by keeping those uh individuals in a position where they can be profitable versus having themselves be in a situation where somebody down the street is offering a five. [3:25:48, 3:25:59]: haircut and then somebody offered four or three and you know those types of things are what what kind of brought me to this uh point. Yeah I got it real quick one [3:26:00, 3:26:20]: All due respect, I don't know what bottom shop you go into, but I got there's one across the street and uh trays, and you look at Jackson, you go there, you got some how many how many you got ahead, and they'll tell you four or five at any given time. I'm saying so I don't I don't see that decline in the supply demand for barbershop. [3:26:19, 3:26:39]: shops because I'm in them all the time. Not just those, I'm in all the barbershops all the time. I d I got a dog that works and and uh so uh so I just I don't see the decline in personnel. We're just trying to decline we just wanna you you're talking about just putting more more tourum on that type of business. That's nothing. [3:26:39, 3:26:53]: That's no doubt I'm going to show a decline in any of these barbershops. They've been there for years. You don't be there for years if your clientele declined. You're there for years because business is booming. And business is booming everywhere in Stockfields. [3:26:54, 3:27:14]: All right. So on that note, if there's any further conversation, if not, then I guess we just I have one concern on vapors. I checked on that and you know our code does not uh address vapors, but they're considered under cigars. I mean Thomas and I did that, so you know you will be banning cigars smoking as well because right now vapor you know how the [3:27:14, 3:27:21]: something to come along and because they're new they have to be necessary classified. [3:27:21, 3:27:41]: I'm just saying. Yeah, but but if they fall under the category of cigar shops, that's what I'm saying. Cigars cause cancer, right? They I I wanna s my personal point of view is this. I don't understand why everybody's celebrating, you blow the smoke. They cause cancer just like cigarette, but [3:27:41, 3:28:01]: Oh, it's cool to be a cigar smoker, but it's killing people. All I want your council to know that vapors as classified in terms of building code and licensing falls under cigars. So if you want to divass any more cigar bars that's along lounges, I'm just saying you're gonna have to do that because right now there's for vapors. [3:28:01, 3:28:21]: Errors. Okay. All right. I just want to make sure that the clarification is that I don't want to ban them. I just want to put them in a category where we limit the distance between them. But basically, what you're saying is that if there's a vapor shop on every corner, then the cigar place could go next to that. Then they would need to parse them out. [3:28:21, 3:28:41]: So there's simple reasons. Or they can be yeah. I mean there's some cigar places that are vapor too. I mean I'm just saying right now because it's such a new classification, they're new under cigar. That that's all I'm saying. So what would actually give you directions and a sense of motion is something Yeah, we need either emotion or [3:28:41, 3:29:01]: Matter of it. We just need to know. But again, if you want to take action, you need to tell us. So how long it gonna take to bring the new day? [3:29:01, 3:29:21]: Just depends. I mean first thing we do is go to business license and see how many got people is this a business license based on those that you say. I would say that you actually have some that are in the hopper, so you probably need to let those of recommendations went over the brownstone, I think um somebody that's that's now [3:29:21, 3:29:41]: Trying to permit more vapor to cigar or vapor. Well, it's a ball it's a combination of both. Yeah, well, there's already cigarettes over there. But I'm so the application, sorry, interrupt. So the application's already in the pipeline. They've already had discussions with us. I just want to say that whatever effective date you give us a more tone-take effect, it should not include [3:29:40, 3:30:00]: So you need a date that kinda associated with this Well if if they were not in our office before this is adopted then they have understand, got it. All right. So just one of the last things. When we talk about cigars [3:30:00, 3:30:20]: And we're talking about races, you're talking about millennials, and you're talking about people that you're talking about the golf community, you're talking about people that invested in communities, you're talking about folks that that was sitting here that that that big percentage that live here that 45 enough age. So we have to be [3:30:20, 3:30:40]: careful as a city when we start talking about memoriatorium that we're not sitting here governing how people live their lives to that extent. Because if you go smoke a vapor you're old enough to smoke a vapor, you go smoke a cigar, you'll smoke a cigar. I'm always saying that we have to be careful on these memoratoriums or not and I would love to get the data because [3:30:40, 3:31:00]: If it was in place now, Brownstone would have a problem with Mike's Mike's business because they're all that they're almost over one shop separating them. So I just I would love to get the data because I I know that we're trying to do things for the city, but it is my suggestion is there's no clear classification for labors. [3:31:00, 3:31:14]: Well, uh for me I I think we got to prioritize [3:31:15, 3:31:35]: Um, you know, those item for me number one would be the old tar shop that you see everywhere. I don't have a problem with barbershop, salon. I'm a non smoker. I understand John Point and Invaders. I go to a lot of places that smoke cigars, but I just I don't frequent that because I'm a non-moker. [3:31:35, 3:31:55]: Smoker, but I I think once you look at that top tier, the top five, I think that's where I am and I think the old guitar shop and thing like that would be number one. I think Mrs. Gamp made a point. Uh if any of you are familiar with the facility right there at North Henry and [3:31:55, 3:32:15]: And flipping um was a used good place or something like that. Yes, okay. One code one day and two days later another one will come in. Now if that's your thing to try to uh decrease some owes, then I think we may have to look at that list. [3:32:15, 3:32:35]: put them in a order and then they would try to limit some of those but for me I don't have a proper rock stuff. I that would that was a moratorium for all of our things. [3:32:34, 3:32:54]: resolution right that's again that's exactly what we need your input because maybe a majority doesn't want to put the moratorium on one like the salons but do want to do tire shops. You just you need to know what you want us to do. Well my thoughts are simply this that we do everybody on that list and then look to get in the data [3:32:54, 3:33:14]: uh and maybe it may take a a couple day a couple I'll maybe a couple months I don't know how long it's a couple months to get all this information come back just maybe sixty days uh with the data and a resolution and go from there. That's it that's just my thoughts. Okay, how long do you think it'll take you then? We just have to see because it depends on how [3:33:14, 3:33:34]: Okay. So what we we have to do is one way to do this is you could put a moratorium on everything tonight for 30 days or 60 days to get some of this preliminary data, and then depending on what the results of that are, you can amend it and pose it. [3:33:34, 3:33:54]: I don't know. But just to to Councilman Alexander's point, you don't want to tip your hand and then have a flood of applications of your you know on tire shops for for instance and then your you know your without protection. So one [3:33:54, 3:34:14]: do a short term oratory until we come back with some preliminary data to do that. The only thing that I would mention, obviously I understand the thoughts behind moratorium so the only thing that I would mention is from a public input standpoint, there's not been any [3:34:14, 3:34:34]: In the weight of public information with respect to the types of businesses or uses that moratorium would be placed upon. I think this kind of and I know at times there would be discussion about different types of uses, but I think for this that Mike uh mentioned uh earlier is probably the first time. [3:34:34, 3:34:54]: uh that Lister Tobal has been saying it's the public right correct. It's been talked about before. And so um you know given some of the discussion um at list that list and total there may be some things on that list that you may wanna add the leader so forth, but that's just not it's just Mr. Robson. [3:34:54, 3:35:14]: I I don't have a problem with thrift stores. Um I love thrift stores. I go to Buckhead, I go all across to nice areas. Um I just say we don't have them on each corner. Right. Um so limited on just search things, limitations, um before as just getting rid of them. [3:35:14, 3:35:34]: think so, um because you have to understand you're servicing all of your community. And you gotta make sure whatever is your community we have to actually see what's in our community, what's working for our community, and that's our citizens. So right now we just need to say, okay, who is driving, who's who's pulling in in there. And then that's how you can determine [3:35:34, 3:35:54]: um what your what your need is for your community. Um again, um I just feel that they shouldn't be three in the same area. Um so limitation is is way out of that. So we just have to do the data to see what's going on before we start making these decisions. So what's it job? [3:35:54, 3:36:14]: I I agree with Councilwoman Robinson because we have to look at supply and demand. We look at a capitalistic society where we're saying what dictates and what's been our backbone for the city and I have no problem against Christ Court either. Doesn't wind up being out forever. Or every Tuesday, even half off. So you know [3:36:14, 3:36:34]: I mean y you know, it you it it it it's a supply and demand. If if if something moves and another goes right back in at the same business then s if it's not for the community the community will tell you by not shopping there. If it's not for the community they'll tell you by not getting that head. Business cannot stay somewhere [3:36:34, 3:36:36]: If it's not a demand for it. [3:36:36, 3:36:56]: Customizing that list. I I just want to say real quick. No one here, including me, is talking about uh eliminating any business. We're simply top agreement with you that we would uh limit the number of thrift shops. You're not gonna go to Alfred and see a thrift shop on every corner. You're not gonna go to Alvarather and see a bottom of the shop. [3:36:56, 3:37:16]: Barbershop on every corner, either. So no one is talking about doing away with any of these businesses. It's simply to place limitations. And as Mr. Williams suggests, we will place the 30-day moratorium on the businesses, and then when the data [3:37:16, 3:37:36]: Comes back in the businesses that it does not apply to or that we want to remove, we will remove them. So the moratoriums are never permanent. You just set them to keep the status quo until you collect the data that says we don't want Tire Shop running here. And we say, okay, tonight. [3:37:36, 3:37:56]: It's gonna take six months to get the data back, or three or four months. The floodgates open now. Everybody already knows we're gonna put a moratorium, and yes, they're gonna run down to the office. So uh the data is critical. I'm supportive of the data. No final decisions will be made until the data returns. [3:37:56, 3:38:16]: Moratorium only holds things in place until you collect the data. But just let me tell you what you're gonna get in 30 days. I wanna be real clear. So I don't want no expectations. All you're gonna get in 30 days is your numbers. We're gonna tell you how many barbershops you have, how many salon shops you have, how many criteria shorts, thrift stores you have, everything on that list. [3:38:16, 3:38:36]: All we can take in 30 days is the numbers. There's not enough the allocation. There's not enough time to do analysis based on our size, population, income, how many stores you should have. That's not what you're gonna get in 30 days. But you get in 30 days is your. [3:38:36, 3:38:56]: 60 or 90? We have a more talk of the 90 days. It depends on what information you're looking for to make your six, right? If you're looking for us if you're compared to Jonesboro, to Riverdale, to McDonald's, that's not a 60-day thing. Okay, but we can give you your number and location. [3:38:56, 3:39:16]: I'm not forming more. You have formal option. No. Not until I get not until I get what we need to say is justified. Okay. I would understand. Well again. [3:39:16, 3:39:19]: favor uh limit it because [3:39:20, 3:39:27]: I I do have issues with Tasha, so I'll move out of them, but ask me a question. [3:39:30, 3:39:50]: Well uh that's the well I I I just like to keep researching as well on the Well and can we agree that we they can get the research that we'll put a thirty day or sixty day thing on and then in thirty days we will bring you back a number and a location. Okay, but it's only classification theory. And if we if we accept that [3:39:49, 3:40:09]: Then we can also say that that nothing else nothing else moves until we get the data back. That holds everybody in place unless they already come in and start a conversation with you. Hold everything in place until we get that data and we adjust from that point. Can we accept that? Does that make sense? Well I was the promotion that we put the 30 days in, we get the [3:40:09, 3:40:22]: data and then we make the decision after the 30 days. And that that that is with uh numbers and locations that locations and zoning classification. Second any further discussion? [3:40:23, 3:40:25]: All very well, please. [3:40:30, 3:40:40]: It's based on what we have currently because we haven't adopted anything, so that's what we have at all now. [3:40:50, 3:41:10]: Okay. I'll let it go. So you manager you have a copy, sir. Um it's a great game stuff, but that's all I have to say. So you clear. I concur. You concur. [3:41:10, 3:41:30]: Mr. Thompson. Mr. Bluck. Mr. Townsend. Thank you everybody for tuning in. We appreciate it. And we're getting a lot done here today. I'm glad we moved some things forward. Um and uh keeping faith in us and we're trying to move things forward. Hopefully we get this parking situation. [3:41:29, 3:41:37]: [13297.7, 13317.7]: And my comments will certainly this uh keep your faith citizens as we continue to move forward. And I want you to say, I want to tell you to have a happy Labor Day. Be safe, enjoy, enjoy family, friends, relatives, and I have to say, you know, we're not going to split. We're going to grow. We're going to encompass all every [3:41:57, 3:42:17]: all the citizens and into one city and uh the good lord is with us and actually so is capital one within the wall capital one and and so is capital one and so i i appreciate the fact that they've uh they've they've done their due diligence and they said hey we want [3:42:17, 3:42:37]: to make sure we get what's really right for us as well. And for you all the patriots and Americans, I want you to the city's flags and have staff, along with many of the flags around the nation, and honor and respect for John Senator John McCain for his passing. So he's a great American. [3:42:37, 3:42:57]: Military man and a great politician. No matter what party it was, he was a good humanitarian. So uh so just keep him and family in prayers as well. On that note, uh oh well, God bless you all. I gotta read these uh these uh these uh upcoming minutes here on meetings. Council meeting Monday, September tenth. [3:42:57, 3:43:17]: Uh 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chamber. Education Informational Town Hall Tuesday, September 11th, Patriots Days we call it. 7 p.m. at Conveniers Community Clubhouse. New Council meeting Wednesday, September 12th, 5:30 p.m. the City Hall Levi Meeting Room. Main Street Advisory Board meeting Friday, September 14th, 9 a.m. the [3:43:17, 3:43:37]: Levi meeting room. Downtown Development Authority meeting Monday, September 17th, 6 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room. Another education information on Town Hall Wednesday, September 19th, 7 p.m. the Eagles Landing Country Club. Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting Wednesday, September 19th, 630, see the City Hall Levi Meeting Room. [3:43:37, 3:43:57]: Planning Commission meeting Thursday, September 20th, 6 p.m. at the City Hall Council Chamber. Stockbridge Associates and Business Meeting, Thursday, September 27th, 8 a.m. at Test Striping Community Center. And our next council work session is Tuesday, September 25th, 4 p.m. right here in the Levi Conference Room. And upcoming events [3:43:57, 3:44:17]: But uh we've got all one thing with don't trust stop raised, no live campaign, spirit headed by council and thoughts. On that note, we have an executive session, is that correct? Yes, for litigation personnel real estate. Okay. I'll make a motion, sir. So I have [3:44:17, 3:44:26]: Okay. So you made a motion to for go go going executive session. Okay. Anything for the discussion? I'll try to please indicate. [3:44:26, 3:44:34]: Right. [3:44:35, 3:44:37]: [13482.0, 13483.6]: Did you did you see this? [3:44:55, 3:45:15]: Yeah, I uh I mentioned you uh Okay anyway. Yeah. I'm sorry. I didn't know that. [3:45:15, 3:45:17]: Leading round location right. [3:45:19, 3:45:20]: [13530.4, 13542.2]: Yeah that was a good question. That goes to Shane aside. That's Shane aside. [3:45:44, 3:45:54]: Yeah. [3:46:05, 3:46:10]: So again we can do it.
  • 2018-07-24 · City Council · Transcript · Work Session Meeting

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    --- title: July 24 2018 Work Session Meeting date: 2018-07-24 source: 2018-07-24_July_24_2018_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:25, 0:00:40]: No, I try back to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [0:00:40, 0:00:50]: But for I know. [0:01:04, 0:01:10]: We'll talk, we'll talk. [0:01:35, 0:01:36]: But I'm just saying. [0:01:37, 0:01:40]: Yes. [0:01:42, 0:01:50]: Is it good? [0:01:53, 0:01:55]: [148.0, 150.4]: And three times. [0:02:50, 0:02:51]: Yeah. [0:02:53, 0:02:55]: Yeah, that's what they're doing. [0:03:08, 0:03:10]: All right. Um [0:04:00, 0:04:01]: Yeah. [0:04:13, 0:04:15]: But we have points technically we do. [0:04:25, 0:04:41]: Alright ladies and gentlemen, I have uh 402 and I'd like to open up the uh Tuesday, July 24th, uh work session for the council. Call of order. And um Mr. McFarlane, passing the floor. Could you please give us the indication? [0:04:43, 0:05:03]: Body heads. Holy Father, we thank you right now for all that you've done for us, all that you've delivered to us, all that you promised us, God. We know that you will give those things that you promised. Bless right now, this council. Bless right now, mayor. Bless right now, everyone that is here in this building. Give them wisdom that we might lead this city in the way that you would. [0:05:03, 0:05:15]: We have to be blessed, the workers of this city. Bless all that takes encompass of everything that is done. We bless these things. We pray these things in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. [0:05:17, 0:05:29]: And to the republic for which it stands for my nation, my God, individual, with liberty and justice for all. [0:05:39, 0:05:40]: Present. [0:05:45, 0:06:05]: Mayor for Jim Cant, it was not in attendance. Councilman Alexander. Councilwoman Private. Present. Mayor Ford may have the four. Thank you. Madam Clerk, appreciate that. I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. So voted. I second. Uh vote on folks. I know you you just second that. [0:06:05, 0:06:25]: Um we we we have we need to make an amendment to the motion and i i'm sorry about that could you withdraw your motion from thank you appreciate that mayor yes sir we need to amend the agenda go right ahead please uh motion to amend the agenda to include uh to add community and schools presentation um by miss uh [0:06:24, 0:06:44]: uh Linda Harris and I would also like us to uh uh hear item number seven uh also Linda to hear item number seventeen after executive session. Number seven after executive session okay is there a second is there a second okay thank you very much any further discussion [0:06:44, 0:07:04]: Yes sir. Uh exactly the community that's good. I'll make that first. We'd like to make that first. Okay. Okay. We'll make that the first item after public comments. Okay. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. Is it for the discussion? All favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Okay. We have reviewed the minutes for the following meetings. [0:07:04, 0:07:22]: June 27th, 2018, and July 9, 2018. Please take a look at those, see if there's any adjustments we have to make. If so, we'll address those with the clerk. We'll get a chance to approve these at our next council works at school council meeting community. [0:07:23, 0:07:25]: Yeah. [0:07:27, 0:07:45]: On that note, I'll move on to any public comments. Ms. Okay. So now public comments have been submitted. Then for the first item before we get on forward to reports, I'd like to have uh Ms. Glenda Harris come forward and give us our community schools briefing. [0:07:45, 0:07:47]: Thank you, man, for coming forward. [0:07:50, 0:08:10]: Thank you, Mayor Ford, Council, and I and the guests for allowing me the opportunity to share with you our mission and what community skills is and what we do. We have a packet in front of you. We're not going to go through that whole packet. But I will go through four main documents that are in that packet and then the other [0:08:10, 0:08:30]: I will touch on, you can refer back to those later for your need. And so I would first want to just share with you a little bit about what community schools is, what we do. We are a the largest non largest national nonprofit dropout. [0:08:30, 0:08:50]: Prevention organization in the country. And what we do is we work directly with students at the high school level to prevent them from dropping out of school and finding the resources for them. We are a we have a Georgia affiliate, which serves 41 districts within the state of Georgia. [0:08:50, 0:09:10]: Georgia, 41 school districts. Um, they have there are 248 sites in Georgia, and we work with approximately 1389 students on a case managed basis. So when we go into the school, just to give you an understanding of what we um [0:09:10, 0:09:30]: What the model looks like is, so I can let you know too, we are in Henry County High School, Stockbridge High School. The model what looks like is that we go into the school, we have a site coordinator that is our employee that we place in the school, we partner with the Henry County School System, and they allow us to have office space both in the school and then by office space. [0:09:30, 0:09:50]: As well. And what we do is we work with the principal to do a needs assessment on the school. We do work with the students who are most at risk within the school to find do a needs assessment to find out what is the problem and what is preventing them from staying in school. And what how we can remove those barriers so that they will stay in school or graduate. Ultimately, we will [0:09:50, 0:10:05]: to see that student succeed and we want to increase the graduation rate within Henry County. And so directly what affects this area is Scott Ridge High School. So we do have a site coordinator there who works directly with the students. And um [0:10:06, 0:10:26]: So, what I do want to refer to first is, and you don't have to be in your packet, I'm just going to show you. Right here is our report card for last school year instead of 16-17. You'll have one soon from 17 to 18 years. But in this, this reflects Henry County because we just started in Stockbridge last year and this past year. But this orange one is the orange. [0:10:26, 0:10:46]: The large piece is my favorite because it shows the colleges that our students were accepted at and the scholarships that they were accumulated that they received. And that shows that last year we had$140,000 in scholarships that were awarded the students in Henry County High School. And that's the total, and these are the colleges that they would were. [0:10:46, 0:11:06]: accepting that. So moving on. We have a um the next document that's very important and I do want you to get out because I think it's something that y'all will appreciate when you look at this is directly a data from our database. Me and our data, every student we work with, every time we work with them, every time we see them. [0:11:06, 0:11:26]: what their needs are and how we provide for those needs. And so this is our end of your report and it's going to show you the total school supports 181. Our case managed students we had that we that we provide direct services to was 75. We always work with at least 5% of the population. [0:11:25, 0:11:27]: when it's over a thousand. [0:11:28, 0:11:39]: And um and so what we provide though in the school is three tiers of support. Tier one being host school. That might be assemblies, that might be um just anything that can affect [0:11:39, 0:11:59]: the whole school. And tier two is group settings. Those are are also case managed students, which is group two. That's that is group settings. Tier three is one-on-one individualized supports. Tier two and tier three we have to have permissions that's from the parents in order for us to work with the students directly to provide services and to enter them into our database. [0:11:59, 0:12:19]: And the database is where we get this data here. So this also shows you the in-kir status as far as how many of the students that we worked with as seniors that graduated, those that were promoted, retained, transferred out, dropped out, and other. And the ones that were the exited programs. [0:12:19, 0:12:29]: and we have that broken down on the next page. Below that we will see also the colleges they were accepted at and the scholarships they received of the students that we worked with, correctly. [0:12:31, 0:12:44]: On page two, it explains more detail what our Tier 1 services, Tier 2 and Tier 3 services look like. It breaks it down so you can see exactly the initiatives that we support in order to support those children. [0:12:46, 0:13:06]: And then on tier three, I mean on page three, uh you do see the dropout prevention. And it breaks it down into the six students that we did lose within our program and why. Some were transferred out, some with one of them was actually dropped out of school, but we were able to connect and with Connecting Henry's uh swag program. [0:13:06, 0:13:10]: So even when we lose them, we follow them to try to connect them to services. [0:13:12, 0:13:30]: And then you see our mission amendments. Um this uh last year we started our our um site granting will meet in the first five minutes of our board meeting and present to our advisory council um a couple of stories of kids that they're working with and it really brings it to home what we do. So I capture some of those here. [0:13:31, 0:13:51]: And so I want to bring out I want to highlight one story. And one is Jamaria Patterson. And sh we worked with her um directly with um our uh site coordinator. Did she did not have a home, they were living in a hotel and they were being kicked out of the hotel, everything was in storage. Our site coordinator was able to find them that [0:13:51, 0:13:56]: day or rental home to move into, she took camera equipment over here so they had something to sleep on. [0:13:56, 0:14:16]: and food so they had something to eat and then made arrangements uh to try to get the foot and the stuff out of storage but with timing issues it was they were not able to get the things out of storage before they got ripped before they sold them. So we were able to work through different coaches, state office, to get uh c um donations [0:14:16, 0:14:36]: So that we were in the house, you know, fill their house and give them a place to live. And Jamaria wrote an essay, and her essay won for the state for CIS Georgia for our state champion for this past year for 2018. And our state coordinator, actually, because of her efforts with Jamaria, she won. [0:14:36, 0:14:56]: uh site pointator of the year which they just went they just instated because she did such a fabulous job. And we were actually met, there's a a news uh release in there that we'll share show you show you um put that we met at the aquarium. We honored um uh First Lady Weal and um the shriners for the work that they do with children [0:14:56, 0:15:16]: As well. So you can read on that later. We also, because of the great work, the Atlanta Journal Constitution wrote a two-part article on the site coordinator and the students, and that is in there as well. And then if we move along to the rest, what I wanted to share with you next is [0:15:16, 0:15:17]: How we [0:15:17, 0:15:20]: support our site coordinator. [0:15:21, 0:15:41]: My first document, and this is another one that's important for you to see, is um our second coordinator costs detail, and this breaks down the cost. It is includes the salary with the benefits, it also includes any program costs, support costs that may come from my support or [0:15:40, 0:16:00]: or the state office support, any training, any travel expenses, things like that. Some of these are hard expenses and some of those are in kind at this time, which eventually may roll over into heart expenses that will be, you know, that will definitely pay out. But right now some of those expenses are in kind. [0:16:00, 0:16:20]: And of course, these expenses will grow as our organization grows and we add on the program manager to support the cycle leaders' work. But this is the basis of what the cost is to have a site commander in a high school right now. And then on the next page that I want you to look at is our contributions and grants. [0:16:21, 0:16:41]: And this is just to show you what um how we receive our funding from contributions and grants. And the first portion is where the school system, in your county schools, does fund$30,000 towards our services. And they also provide an in-time contribution of the office phase that I mentioned. [0:16:41, 0:17:01]: Before for my two site coordinators and for myself. And then they also provide laptops and electronic, you know, become printers and anything that my site coordinators might need at our office. We also partnered heavily with the period expo that took place this past weekend. And we had uh we have about 1200, uh a little over 1200. [0:17:01, 0:17:21]: Henry County residents. We passed out almost a thousand backpacks and the re the um remaining of elementary backpacks we were able to give to um the backpack giveaway that y'all have this coming weekend, the back to school um batch and um and then the others that we have for high school we keep at our um facility so that we [0:17:21, 0:17:41]: Can support our services throughout the year. As you look further, you'll see different organizations that contribute to contributed to us throughout 2018, our FY18 year, any grants we may receive, and any in-kind contributions. If you look at the second page of that document, [0:17:42, 0:17:47]: It also gives you some grants that we've already have commitments on for the FY19. [0:17:48, 0:18:06]: But it also will show uh what I've shown you here um is that there are other affiliates within the state of Georgia that receive funding from municipalities such as um cities, counties and so forth. And um this was just a good breakdown to show you where um the possibilities are. [0:18:11, 0:18:12]: Then um [0:18:13, 0:18:33]: Further, um, we have in the packet, it just shows you our three fundraisers that we use throughout the year, and that is our parent expo, which really isn't a true fundraiser, which the money always bounces out. You know, what the contributions that we receive go straight back to the um school supplies. Then we have an Anu Giving campaign and [0:18:33, 0:18:38]: We also have golf term that takes place. So that's really how we gain our funds throughout the year. [0:18:39, 0:18:59]: And um and so what I'd like to um say in in closing is just um I'd like the possibility in the near future to discuss the possibility of of City Stockbridge assisting us with some kind of support for the services, and that support would go directly to Stockbridge High School, um not to Hummer Ken button [0:18:59, 0:19:03]: we didn't have it reacted uh to the um question. [0:19:04, 0:19:24]: Um yes sir. Um thank you again for coming. Several years ago uh Mrs. Cromley uh indicated that there was a need for a site here in the Stockbridge community. Um is that still so uh [0:19:24, 0:19:44]: As far as a side coordinator? Well, no, a location. I think at the time there were a number of students in the program. I think the majority of the students in the program came from the city of Stockbridge. So the program tried to locate a facility here in the City of Stockbridge. [0:19:44, 0:20:04]: Now with the communities and schools, um, when we first originated we were with Connecting Henry, but we separated from them that was before I even uh joined the organization. And um we were in the middle schools with the graduation coaches reassigned to us. And we used uh those graduations start the coaches to [0:20:04, 0:20:24]: Three years ago, we pulled out of the middle schools and hired our own to go into this the sites that were most at at need. And we we work with the school system directly to find out you know where that the greatest need is. We started Hammer County High School and then last year moved into [0:20:24, 0:20:44]: Stockridge high school. So as far as a site, that's where we would be. Um in and we are inside the school. We have that site where we're seeing those kids face to face every day. Does that answer your question? Mayor for the record. Uh the let the record mayor for TM. Appreciate it. Thank you. [0:20:44, 0:21:04]: Ms. Robinson Goretta, please. Um yes, thank you, Mayor. Thank you for the presentation. Um it is definitely needed and I'm glad you made it to Stockbridge High School because I just noticed even with the um stats that you have, the dropout is basically a lot of that is the behavior. Um so you guys are doing an excellent job. [0:21:04, 0:21:24]: job in the schools. So uh and I'm thankful that you said that you've partnered with us already with our factor school. Um so that's just a partnership in itself that is huge for our community. Um I just know that I'm for it um to be support, you know, coming from the city. So you know I definitely am mayor. [0:21:24, 0:21:43]: And uh colleagues, so hopefully we can look further and discuss further. We'll have to discuss through that would make it to move forward in reference to how we want to move. Any other questions from the council right now? You have no yet. [0:21:43, 0:22:03]: Thanks for coming. Um, and I definitely appreciate uh the support I've gotten from you all and uh this student crumble. Um when you was doing when I was actually just down there today when I was explaining to you about the uh teacher, the parent teacher liaison, and I spoke to them uh at your office's um when you [0:22:03, 0:22:10]: talk about case management management cases other than grades how are they determined [0:22:10, 0:22:11]: That's a great question. [0:22:11, 0:22:31]: Um we look at the agencies, attendance, behavior curriculum. Any of those areas start dropping, then we have the ability to reach out to that child. We have a support system where referrals can come from teachers, administration, counselors, c cafeteria workers, um, they can self [0:22:31, 0:22:51]: refer themselves, a parent can come in and refer them or even teach we have students who will bring the students to to the site coordinator. So we have a good referral system. But when we go into the school the first thing we look at are our foster children, McKinney Bento and unc unaccompany. We address those for [0:22:51, 0:23:11]: first and then we work we begin to look at you know which ones are having issues with the um the um oh my goodness was just the credits when they're under when they're working in a credit recovery. We work closely with the if you if you'll remind me the name of that group that meets uh is 234 [0:23:11, 0:23:31]: And that's 23 credits within four years. And so we're part of that group as well, so that we can address the most needs within that group. So we have different identifiers that will help us um to to see which kids need the most or have most. Okay, thanks. I appreciate that. Uh thank you for coming. I appreciate it. [0:23:31, 0:23:37]: presentation was excellent. I uh maybe I'm missing it, but I don't see any contribution from the school system. [0:23:38, 0:23:58]: It's the first thing at the top of the contributions and bridges. Do you see that? And there also I mean I forgot to mention there should be a letter from uh Chairwoods. I saw a letter. Okay. And their contribution from the county is w was that only two. Not yet. [0:23:58, 0:24:18]: And I think not yet. No, there's a lot of people. Mr. Watson, since you're Starbury's high school, sir, did you want to come up and say anything to the rest of the council at all? [0:24:18, 0:24:38]: First first of all I just want to thank Miss Harris OK for all the work she's done. It came to me, I guess this is the second year in you know about having the communities and schools uh you know asked operate high school. So we we met and uh after she shared many of the things she shared with you, I thought it was a no-brainer, you know, that we would bring [0:24:38, 0:24:58]: program into our school. It was definitely a success. Last year we were fortunate to have a good site coordinator that really worked with our kids. Our focus this year was on, you know, she said the ABCs, we focus on attendance and behavior. And so I did various programs to kind of incentive for the students to come [0:24:58, 0:25:18]: Come to school, certainly site coordinator, work along with administrative staff with discipline, those kind of things. It really gave the students another adult inability that they could go to and share things, maybe even private things at times. And so again, like I said, it's definitely a benefit. There's so much more. [0:25:18, 0:25:38]: We probably can do with definitely some support, financial support, those types of things. We can do some more innovative things in our school. But again, as the principal, I definitely think it's a benefit for our kids. We have 1,500 kids in the building, so anytime we can get some additional support, we try to do like [0:25:38, 0:25:58]: like a wrap around service uh for our students uh so they won't follow big press. So I support it 100%. Thank you sir appreciate that any other questions from the council. Sir thank you for the presentation. We have the information I'm pretty sure we'll we'll go through it, have some conversation and see what we can eventually do to assist in the program. And I [0:25:57, 0:26:17]: uh I'm but we're gonna I I would say I'll think we're a little biased because Starbury's high school has the name of the city. So so we'll see what we can do with this. Okay now they'll keep me straight but we'll see what we can do. Okay thank you for the presentation thank you Mr. Weisson okay all right so on that note [0:26:17, 0:26:32]: Note uh we're going to record the uh reports. What's first on the agenda would be advisory committee. Uh speak to the mayor. Um could we have maybe this and have public safety come through the first time? [0:26:33, 0:26:53]: Okay, you um there'll just a couple that okay. In reference to the police officer here. Yes. All right, well uh I guess we can legally amend the agenda again, so I just made a motion to make that make a motion, sir. Mayor. Sir. I can move the agenda to move the uh public safety presentation to the first presentation on the [0:26:53, 0:27:13]: Is there a second? Sir. Oh okay, further questions? Okay. All favor, please indicate. Okay, thank you. Um good evening, Lieutenant Staff from the United Police Department. I'm the Eagle Watch Commander here at the Star. Um the actual stats won't be out for the city. [0:27:13, 0:27:25]: until next week that they were able to compile some stats for me to cover the office. As for the call on the service, they were down slightly for May to June. I'm sorry. Yes, May to June or something. [0:27:26, 0:27:28]: [1658.6, 1678.6]: The total incidents were slightly down. Um arrests were about the same, citations were down, and borders were down a little bit. Um report there were no homicides in the city? No rates. There were two robberies. I'm not sure exactly what they were. I know one was a pizza draft. [0:27:58, 0:28:16]: driver piece of the loop of the dryer was brought. Before I ever made an assault, not sure was all them all that were there was a commercial burglar that was at the castle jewelry. The Deck Fisher has already made an arrest in that case. [0:28:17, 0:28:33]: Larson is up a little, or though I think it's rope a little bit, I'm not sure why. Um Frogs are down, drugs stay about the same, and DUI, the heat units come over from North Henry Boulevard pretty heavily on the weekends, so they probably make more DUI arrests out there. [0:28:35, 0:28:55]: Um accident stayed about the same and there were no fatalities. Um do I have any questions? Well I have one off the top of my head. Um every time you see these stats and and they're it I guess the sense they're somewhat great compared to other cities or other countries. [0:28:54, 0:29:14]: Counties per se, is is that right? Well yes, I when I was looking at this, I mean we had two murders last month or so in the county, right here, here one over in Highland Village, one on Tunis Joe Coke. So yes, this wasn't a good idea. [0:29:14, 0:29:34]: Or the other counties were not really that bad. I mean it can be improved, but maybe what I've been told I haven't seen actually stats that we actually enjoy a less lower crime rate in the surrounding county. All right. Any questions on this side? Yes, all right. A couple of questions. So in eighteen uh eighteen [0:29:34, 0:29:54]: May we had a spike in citations. We went from 212 to 735. Was there some type of program going on? This team runs, uh was running uh either Operation Zero Tolerance or one of the one of their programs at that time, there's zero tolerance and there's a cooking ticket. [0:29:54, 0:30:03]: And they just finished another one that had to do with speeding last week. So that would have been what I'm assuming is the increase in citations for that month. [0:30:04, 0:30:24]: Okay, and sir, to follow up on the on the mayor's question, as it relates to overall crime in Henry County, uh is the overall crime in the county up or down and how do we compare it to the other cities? I don't have that information with me as to how we compare it to the other cities or [0:30:24, 0:30:30]: if grammars uplay on India, so it just gave me the statistical data, it gave me the first remote system of what we ought. [0:30:30, 0:30:50]: Would you be able to get us that information? Yes, right. And then I'll always like comparison, maybe like the year-to-year comparison, maybe what the numbers look like in twenty seventeen versus what we are now, because you know when you do it month to month, but that's twenty seventeen numbers. [0:30:51, 0:31:05]: Yeah, this is okay. So the wind is looking at this. Yeah, it's just citation. Just citation, yeah. [0:31:10, 0:31:30]: Yes, that will that will be any questions from Council maybe. I just want to say thank you for coming in and provides a report and like Councilman Alexander said you can give that to our city manager and you can forward it to us. Thank you so much for that. [0:31:30, 0:31:38]: Okay. Appreciate you being doing it. All right. Uh we'll go back now to the new council advisory committee. This is a file computer. [0:31:42, 0:32:02]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. This is the second quarter of the report from the U Council, and we wanted to make sure that you are updated on all the things that we have done. But we believe that a picture speaks a thousand words. So once uh the city clerk gets this stuff, I'd like to take a look at some of the things that our new council has achieved. I also want to introduce and let you know. [0:32:02, 0:32:15]: that our chairman of the youth council is here, Mrs. Cruz. She actually works with the city now and doing some things, and we really appreciate her standing out to doing those different things. [0:32:15, 0:32:35]: These pictures will show you some of the things that have occurred, but we want to just run those down to you. In this report, we've been tailored to make sure our kids are understanding what government means, not only city government, but local, as far as state and federal. So we work towards making sure they become leaders. And in speaking of leaders, [0:32:35, 0:32:55]: They actually work with kids as well, teaching them how to become leaders. We did start with our opening retreat where we actually got the kids together and actually made them bund to get to know each other, making sure that they can achieve these processes. The evening volunteer moving night, we worked with [0:32:55, 0:33:15]: uh our um uh counterpart, I don't know if you call it a counterpart, but um the young lady you got to give me a main street. Uh and the kids really enjoyed that because it gives them another opportunity to work with the city and this is where it is. Anything that the youth council can do to help the city, that's what we are here to do. [0:33:15, 0:33:35]: a food truck. We've been doing that for a couple of things, working with that to include having one uh that we actually sponsored and awesome job. It was our um what do you call it uh Hanukkah not Hanukkah but the Luau those strange words the luau and the kids really enjoyed that as well and getting kids [0:33:34, 0:33:54]: Young people interested in coming to and attending the things that the city already has because one of the things we don't want to happen is our young people don't know what's going on, and then once they get ready to leave Stockbridge, it's always we don't do anything here, and that's not the case. We do quite a few things here. [0:33:54, 0:34:14]: speak enough on that and you can see how lovely they look in their uniforms. They are performing and representing Stockbridge in every way. The beautification day where they plant flowers. It is not so much that they just do the work but they have to have the opportunity to share and learn. It's about hands-on. It's not just about what you can tell [0:34:14, 0:34:34]: them but what they can show you. So the beautification day was a nice uh plug to that. We also want to be working with uh some of the council men and women to make sure that we support your your events. One will be uh the litter campaign and the other would be the backpack or the back school piece. Uh while we say [0:34:34, 0:34:54]: This. Anytime that you can use our young people and actually ours, they're yours. Anytime you can use them, we request that you let us know so we can actually have them there because believe it or not, young people listen to young people. Most times they listen to young people more than they listen to us. And if we want young people to stay in the city and start. [0:34:54, 0:35:14]: Side bridge, we have to start addressing their needs and their wants and the things that they are looking forward to. As you can see, we have a wonderful group. We have nine people on our advisory council and 17 in the E Council. We went up a notch, and I think next year we're going to go even further. One of the things I did want to mention in closing. [0:35:14, 0:35:34]: uh that you actually gave us uh uh uh amount of five thousand dollars to go to North Carolina. And we really do appreciate all that you do. Not only that, but the money that you send into our um our uh account each time to get these things done. Uh but we're pleased to let you know for some of you that didn't want to talk to several [0:35:34, 0:35:54]: the council and they did not know that seven thousand dollars was turned back into the council. So we really appreciate you actually helping us do that to acknowledge that. If you have any questions at this time. I just want to um add that uh Mr Mc [0:35:54, 0:36:14]: Uh Chair McFarlane, if you can add the piece of the money that we're trying to do for the nationals, if you can clear that up as well in your presentation. And this is the nationals now this year going to Los Angeles, California. What we're doing, and we got this uh recommendation, as a matter of fact, I got this recommendation from the council that we need to [0:36:14, 0:36:34]: Involve more of the parents' activities and also the community as a whole. So instead of asking the council for extra money, we're raising the funds. As a matter of fact, my church is going to be donated, and anyone would like to donate, please feel free. This is an opportunity for us to ask you to support in that effort. We have, I think, 10 to 12 years. [0:36:34, 0:36:54]: young people that would be going to Los Angeles that's a registry. We're kind of excited about that because what we're looking to do is to take them out from their surroundings and actually make them and get them to experience others' surroundings. This is most important to us. So we actually put this piece together so that that way we can actually get them [0:36:54, 0:36:58]: out of town to know what's out there so they can bring it back here. [0:36:59, 0:37:19]: Mr. Thomas. Uh I'd just like to take this opportunity, uh Reverend McFarlane, just to thank you for uh coming out to uh meet with me uh a couple of weeks ago. Um I express uh you know my concerns, uh, being very cordial in your answers. Uh [0:37:19, 0:37:39]: I think you and I sort of came to an understanding and I I I appreciate that. And um I met you in the hall earlier and just said that uh you know, okay, you know, with the direction. Um we all stand for improvements and I think as we go forward. [0:37:39, 0:37:48]: I think many of us will probably get involved to make sure that anything that's associated with the City of the Doctorate, we try to make it better. [0:37:49, 0:38:09]: Thank you so much. Any other questions from the council? I appreciate your presentation, sir. It was it was excellent as usual. And everything that you do for this particular program and the hours that you put in. So thank you so much uh for your contribution. I would, however, like to hear from the chairwoman over there to see uh allow [0:38:09, 0:38:29]: I always like to hear from the kids and to see what they're thinking and what's going on in the program. It'd be okay if you indulge me and just kind of hear what they have to say and what she has to say. If I could just say she's a little shy because she also there she's interning for the city for the record, so there's opportunity. [0:38:29, 0:38:49]: Opportunities that the youth council are being able to do the um she so she's currently the intern and we're trying to open doors for all of our youth in our city to enter as well. So that's probably why she was a little shot. Whatever you like to say. I was gonna say my name is Helly Cruise and I am here in the topic. [0:38:49, 0:39:09]: Council. Um, like uh he mentioned we have done a lot of events in the past uh months since our new council was um we will be you know this morning in August I believe. And we've done a lot since then. We've done our Luwau, which was a big hit with the kids and the community, and I think they all really enjoyed that. And our next big thing coming up will be our public service. [0:39:09, 0:39:29]: This project, which we're still talking about, and I'll be discussed more at our next meeting in August. And also the National Linux City, which will be in California this year. So we're raising money for that. We're hoping to it. Like you said, there's about 10 or 12 of us going. So we've been um we've been raising money for that, just getting more ideas about how we can go and uh bring some ideas after making me vendor. So that's what we've been up to. [0:39:28, 0:39:47]: And we thank you for your support, all you want to do for us. And please feel free to contact me and we'll be in touch with you and anything else that you can do. Appreciate that. Anybody else any questions for a buddy or any or passing the floor? Thank you for your presentation. We appreciate it. Thank you so much, Mary and Council. Thank you. [0:39:48, 0:40:08]: Main Street Advisory Board. Um, if Mr. Brackers might I as a representative to the board, uh I'll just sort of open this uh go ahead. Um I know the council um and staff know that uh earlier we had the combined meeting, uh Main Street, DDA, um, and so [0:40:08, 0:40:28]: the information that's in the packet. Um I personally won't get into that. You do have it. Uh Mrs. Bragg will probably come forward to share that with those that may not know and maybe the uh the public audience. But I do want to commend uh Mrs. Bragg and the staff and and actually the board. [0:40:27, 0:40:47]: uh because as I see it from from the chair that I sit in, uh they're very active. And if when you look at the report, uh it's a lot and they have been very active. And I personally just want to commend the staff uh for the work that they do. Um I was prepared to read the mission statement [0:40:47, 0:41:07]: Because reading the mission statement and the vision statement, and we're in this process now where we're with doing a comp plan, everything that we do, and one of the issues I uh tentatively had with the youth council and some of our other programs, you know, as a city, that should be one. [0:41:07, 0:41:27]: uh mission of one go. And all of the entities and and the part, the component, should be about trying to get to the same place. And I can truly say that uh in the main street program, when I analyze and compare the city's uh mission statement and the main [0:41:27, 0:41:47]: Mission statement, I can see uh how it all relates. And so with that being said, and just trying to conserve time, I'll just add the practice a little bit. Now you don't want to get me started. So I'll let you just go ahead and just talk about some of the things that probably not in the reports because I [0:41:47, 0:42:07]: I think the council at the joint session you sort of went through and said the fact that for some of the other folks that's around that don't have the opportunity to see this, you may just want to highlight some of the things. Okay. Um thank you, Councilman Thomas, and thank you all. Um mayor, mayor for chair and council members. [0:42:07, 0:42:27]: The Main Street program has been busy over the last quarter Q2. As you can see from our report, we have worked with City Brandon initiative, which hasn't been concluded yet, but we are still working on that. All of you all have received some requests to respond. [0:42:27, 0:42:31]: to our um braid. [0:42:33, 0:42:34]: Okay. [0:42:36, 0:42:56]: I don't care. Branding taglines. Um and then also um coming up with the city um logo so that we can move forward with some of our wayfinding initiatives that we would like to have in place as soon as possible. Um the downtown RSVP has been completed. [0:42:56, 0:43:16]: And so we will have the final report on that particular project by the end of this month, and I'll be able to share that with you all. And it is our hope and will be the recommendation of the Main Street Advisory Board that the RSVP recommendations be included in the comp plan that we're currently working on with the city. [0:43:16, 0:43:36]: Little Free Library project is moving right along. We have three installed in our plan, as you all may remember, from the first of last year was to have five installed in the downtown area. And we've been approached by two more organizations about having those. [0:43:36, 0:43:56]: Sponsored and placed in the downtown area, so we're excited about that as well. Over the last two months, Stockbridge Stories, which is our initiative that brings forth historic preservation through storytelling about the city of Stockbridge and important personalities that come from. [0:43:55, 0:44:07]: from the city of Stockbridge. We have a welcome home tour as you all know. We welcome Chris Kenny to the air back home to the area. He was our hometown Olympic winter athlete. [0:44:08, 0:44:28]: Martin Luther King Jr., we had an observance of the 50th anniversary of his death by placing a memorial photo here in the City Hall lobby and then also having information on the Facebook through Facebook posts in recognition of that observance. [0:44:27, 0:44:42]: also recognized throughout the state of Georgia in May, so we also had some information about stock bridge history and highlights on the Facebook post as well throughout that month. [0:44:43, 0:45:03]: Main Street staff has been to several trainings over the past quarter, and the one that I would like to highlight most is the STS Marketing College. That's the Southeast Tourism Society's Marketing College. Both um the Main Street um assistant and myself are in a certification program so that we will [0:45:03, 0:45:23]: Receive our certification within the three-year program for tourism marketing. And this was our second year that we complete, second session we complete completed. So we'll have one more session and that will be done next year. So we're really excited about being able to receive that certification. We've had [0:45:23, 0:45:43]: Several events activities that Main Street is very proud of, one being the downtown discovery tour. Some of you all here in this room were able to accompany us to Dublin, Georgia, where we were able to convene with the downtown development of. [0:45:43, 0:46:03]: Authority director and their tourism director and city officials to discuss how they have handled their Martin Luther King Jr. heritage there in Dublin, which is very similar, almost identical to our heritage here with Martin Luther King Sr. [0:46:03, 0:46:23]: And that particular trip was very informative and we've um established a connection between our city and that city. So I'm looking forward to expounding on that particular relationship and making sure that our tourism efforts connect. We hosted Main Street movies, we tried to host [0:46:23, 0:46:43]: One on July the 14th, and that would have to be canceled due to incoming weather. We're planning for Bridge Fest. Um we're working with um CC McGee, Connell Ingram, and um Brian uh over in the on the events team to make sure that uh Main Street is in [0:46:43, 0:47:03]: Involved with Bridgefest because they are increasing the footprint of BridgeFest this year, and Main Street will have some activities on Martin King Senior Heritage Trail. So we're going to have activities on both sides of the railroad track this year, and we're looking forward to that and exposing our [0:47:03, 0:47:23]: community to the Main Street district and that area as well. Small Business Saturday is a big event for small businesses across the country and Main Streets across the country are also charged with celebrating [0:47:23, 0:47:43]: Small Business Saturday in Subway. And we will be doing the same here in Stockbridge as we have over the past couple of years by including our small businesses not only in the Main Street district, but as across the city as a whole. We'll be working with the Stockbridge Association of Businesses. [0:47:43, 0:48:03]: We'll be actually doing a presentation on Small Business Saturday at their meeting on the 26th. So we're trying to get more and more small businesses and entrepreneurs excited about and participating in Small Business Saturday because this is a time when people across the nation come together. [0:48:03, 0:48:23]: To support small businesses and we want that here in Stockway and celebrate with that whole party. Um and that concludes my report. Were there any other um items that you all needed further information on? Yeah, I do um a couple things quick. Meanwhile, Miss Small Business Saturday is what day? What Saturday? [0:48:23, 0:48:25]: The alternative twenty four. [0:48:28, 0:48:48]: And the movie that was cancelled with increment weather, do we have risks of data or we just not particularly I will that particular movie was sponsored by um KISS one oh four point one and um they were the ones who actually canceled the movie so I am in communications with it. [0:48:48, 0:49:08]: Have a calendar to complete, and they have to look to see if they will be able to bring another woman back to Slackbridge. They know how supportive we are, our community is of the event, and I emphasize to them that it was something that our community was looking forward to, and so they're going to get back to me to let me know, and I will of course let [0:49:08, 0:49:13]: that you want to know of another AQ schedule. Thank you. Council, any questions for Ms. Rats? [0:49:15, 0:49:18]: Thank you for your presentation. Thank you very much. [0:49:19, 0:49:21]: DDA, Downtown Development Authority. [0:49:23, 0:49:43]: Um well yes. I'm on the DDA board. Uh quick update. I know that um we had a couple of meetings this past weekend and um currently the DDA um has waited for we're waiting with um Main Street and [0:49:43, 0:50:03]: In the city of Stockbridge, in regards to the RSBPD, to implement certain things. One of the things that projects that we have looked at, one of the low-hanger fruit is the actual mural that crosses over the bridge. That mural would be whether it's welcome to stop. [0:50:03, 0:50:23]: Ridge or the example that RBPD had given was Danny King picture. That's something that we're currently working with and trying to reach out to the owner and actually get done right now. We also have [0:50:22, 0:50:42]: The continuing running facade grant still available. The chair, Roland Clark, has recently developed a postcard to that effect that goes out to all the businesses in the down in the DDA area. We've talked about the expansion. [0:50:42, 0:51:02]: Of the map. Currently, our map matches the same map as Main Street. However, we believe that it is important to expand the map a little bit more for certain reasons and purposes in order to reach some of those areas and business locations, specifically for facade and other things that we're trying to do. [0:51:02, 0:51:22]: In the downtown area. In regards to business recruitment and development, the plan for the DA is to actually have a meeting with different developers. Currently, there's an RFP RFQ out right now for the development of the fire station. We are in host. [0:51:22, 0:51:42]: hopes that the DEA will have the ability to join in the efforts of that once the a developer produces the plans and renderings and the council votes on that, the DEA would love to be able to partner or work with the city to make sure that that development [0:51:42, 0:52:02]: it takes place. In regards to um also the DDA has met with a couple of developers that are actually interested. One of the things we've had to do necessarily the there have been positions where the DDA [0:52:02, 0:52:07]: um basically in regards to the roles of the DDA. [0:52:07, 0:52:08]: Um [0:52:09, 0:52:29]: Aren't quite necessarily those of actually recruiting the businesses that come here. However, we're thinking outside of the box and we kind of visualize what type of businesses it is that we want in our downtown area. So instead, that's exactly what we're doing. If we want a coffee shop, we're going to people who might be interested in bringing [0:52:28, 0:52:48]: in a coffee shop here and say hey you know we got possibly the perfect location for that and another discussion um that w or or jazz spot or art gallery or you name it but a restaurant or two um have shown some interest so we're looking at a couple quite a few things. Um we also [0:52:48, 0:53:08]: Have discussed and would like to present. At some point, we were asking for the support of counsel to have a direct staff person that would basically help the DEA. Currently, the DA doesn't have that. Support staff. [0:53:08, 0:53:28]: Person right now, and I believe that we're gonna head in that direction soon in the months to come. In regards to the city-owned properties or any properties that are available in the downtown area, the DDA is also asking and requesting that we're gonna work on and hope that we can work with staff to find those empty business. [0:53:28, 0:53:48]: buildings or spaces that might be available in attraction to what we're doing. Um however, being that we are waiting on the final result of the RSB PD, and we just heard from Ms. Braggs that that is now um going to take place at the end this month, we will be able to start implementing and meeting more on those projects. I have nothing for [0:53:48, 0:54:08]: question for uh Mr. Gantt in reference to the EDA. Now mayor in response to uh mayor approaching Gantt um and was referenced the RF the fire station RFP was referenced today we had several people in uh in response to um the RFP who actually met here in the city [0:54:08, 0:54:20]: We hauled, received information from our procurement officer, and then actually went over to the fire station to view the site. Had it to report that 8%, 75-8% fire station. [0:54:20, 0:54:40]: has been cleared out. We had a roll off dumpster there this morning and also we have uh ready for storage space and other things that are in need. So uh great work by the public work staff in particular. Uh within a matter of about uh a day or so getting most of that um it was highly value. We got a few other things we need to take out as well but uh [0:54:40, 0:54:54]: for the most part has been cleared out. I took some pictures uh earlier today as well. Uh so they did a great job and uh we're moving forward with the RFP and uh hopefully we'll get some very creative and innovative proposals, which I think we'll be very something. [0:54:54, 0:54:55]: Cleaned up pretty good, huh? [0:54:58, 0:55:00]: Yeah, the question is now. [0:55:00, 0:55:20]: Mayor, if I might I just wanted to add to Mayor Pro Temp's um report with regard to the um mural. Um I did meet with the building owner on Thursday of last week and he is considering it, so um that was an update that I have not given her yet, so I wanted to make sure that she had that. Thanks. Okay. [0:55:20, 0:55:26]: Thank you so much. Anything else on the council? Okay. Appreciate your report. Um finance department. [0:55:28, 0:55:30]: [3383.5, 3384.2]: Mm-hmm. [0:56:28, 0:56:48]: Well good afternoon. Um afternoon mayor and counsel. Uh my name is John Williams. I'm the interim um interim treasurer, city treasurer. And my report here is gonna be over uh the second quarter for the finance of the city. Um we start off with uh [0:56:48, 0:56:55]: of first sheet that that that's up on the um the board is um [0:56:56, 0:57:05]: simple income statement for uh the general fund. I we start off with the um [0:57:06, 0:57:13]: The budget as of uh June 30th, 2018, we have revenue budget of uh [0:57:15, 0:57:35]: $3,465,200. Um we actually had revenue come in at$3,590,500. Expenses came in at$4 million. [0:57:35, 0:57:50]: Well we had to start with a budget of$4,113,743. We had expenses, including in commerce, to total to$4,335,387,000. [0:57:51, 0:58:03]: With that, we have a difference with revenue to expenses negative 734,847. [0:58:06, 0:58:10]: We want to just meet I'm sorry. [0:58:10, 0:58:30]: I'm lost. Can you tell me where we are on the sheet? The first sheet. You're still on the first sheet. First sheet. Yeah. I think it's the bottom line that you're going across there where it says total expensive. Yep. Thank you. All right. First sheet on the first sheet, we have um the top level. [0:58:30, 0:58:50]: we have all the revenues. I started out with the budget as of June 30th at 3.54 million. Going across we have at the end, I'm looking at the actuals plus incumbents, we're looking at 3.5 million. [0:58:49, 0:59:04]: We're going up to the bottom here, we have the expenses. This is all just for the general fund. We have 4.1 million for the budget and we have 4.3 million for the actual expenses. [0:59:06, 0:59:23]: Below that we have uh uh our operating income, which is at a loss at seven hundred and forty-four thousand eight forty seven. Okay, if I understand right, then that means we're over we're over budget right now. So is that was that is that how I read that? Uh [0:59:25, 0:59:45]: Yeah, I wouldn't say we are over. If if you're looking at as far as expenses, you're coming in pretty much, you're spending pretty much your budget. Well, as far as the revenues, the revenues have not hit. Uh you're gonna have some revenues gonna come in at the end of the year. [0:59:45, 0:59:52]: There's some timing issues too throughout the course of the year when the revenues we receive later on February. [0:59:54, 1:00:08]: So during the course of during the course of the year you you you're gonna have some ups and downs, whether it's uh revenue uh or expenses. Okay. Mainly um at the end URC, the revenues are gonna catch up with the expenses. All right, thank you. [1:00:10, 1:00:12]: Moving to the second thing. [1:00:18, 1:00:20]: Second age. [1:00:21, 1:00:23]: is a uh more detailed [1:00:25, 1:00:45]: Summary of the financials. Um this is uh also the general fund. Uh this goes into detail. We we have total um revenue that three point five that came in. At the bottom we have four point oh million that came in. [1:00:45, 1:01:04]: here. That is due. You go back to your first sheet, you'll see a difference between the expenses that we have here opposed to expenses on the first sheet. That's because this does not include in commerce. This just includes exactly what you spent for that for the port. [1:01:07, 1:01:09]: A set of sheet. [1:01:16, 1:01:36]: This is hotel motel fund. Revenues that came in as of June 30th is$189,269. The expenses is$84,177. Gave us a positive bearance of$105.092. [1:01:36, 1:01:36]: Two. [1:01:38, 1:01:50]: We come down to the urban redevelopment fund. We have a transfer in of nine hundred thirty-five thousand seven thirty-three parts for the revenue, and we had a large shoule of expenses at [1:01:51, 1:01:55]: Nine hundred and thirty five thousand seven thirty-three. So we have zero bear step. [1:01:56, 1:02:16]: Moving down to the capital project, the grant fund for the LCI and the T. We had no revenues that came in for um as a June period, but we did. We made a couple expenses, which total 7,000 fifty-seven. [1:02:16, 1:02:21]: Which bearance is that negative 7057. [1:02:24, 1:02:44]: Excuse me, I got a question. The admin on the expenses under capital projects, was it that force the salaries? Well I mean it says admin, so what what would that encompass? Administration? Right. Three thousand five hundred eighty dollars. This is curiosity question. Um I don't have my detail right now, but uh [1:02:44, 1:02:55]: I I can I can get back to you about that. I I don't think that's anything of um or salad, but I'll make sure. Okay. [1:03:02, 1:03:03]: Next thing. [1:03:05, 1:03:06]: War is super cloud. [1:03:09, 1:03:27]: We have revenues that came in at$1,659,097. We have expenses of 1,285,614. Gave us a positive variance of$373,483. [1:03:29, 1:03:35]: Strong Word of Fund. Revenues. We had revenues of [1:03:36, 1:03:45]: Twenty thousand oh fifty six. Expenses five hundred and twelve oh eighty three. [1:03:45, 1:04:05]: We have a difference, which is a negative, will be a negative 492.027. That's due because your storm was uh that's not gonna come to the end when you when you're gonna start seeing this uh stormwater revenue. So that's why you got this kind of deep variance. [1:04:05, 1:04:12]: So the last quarter of the year this wanted to pick up I guess evil even even out some low out. [1:04:13, 1:04:29]: Sanitation fund for revenues of$644,337, expenses of$552,992, it was a positive bearance of$91,345. [1:04:35, 1:04:55]: Next page we have the uh the real man uh conference center. We have uh revenue that came in is two hundred and twenty-eight thousand six ninety-seven. That's due largely to transfer [1:04:55, 1:04:57]: From general part. [1:04:57, 1:05:08]: Expenses of$181,747. Right now, as of this quarter, second quarter, we're seeing a positive balance of$46,950. [1:05:09, 1:05:29]: Some more men's making planning. No, that no. No, that's the question right there. We definitely need that breakdown, excuse me. We definitely need that breakdown between what we we contributed and then what they actually brought in, because this this number right here [1:05:29, 1:05:35]: we need to break down every time we get this report to see [1:05:35, 1:05:55]: That's what they the eighty seven thousand eight the eighty seven thousand six sixty five is what the company that's that's the actual revenue that's companies bring in. But for this being the enterprise fund and the hack the enterprise fund is the general fund is supplementing most of uh the budget portion. That's uh [1:05:55, 1:06:02]: That's at 141, 032. That's coming in from Gerald. [1:06:03, 1:06:12]: Well then we need to probably need to talk about that at a later date in time, but that's a lot more. I got some concerns about that. [1:06:14, 1:06:20]: Any other questions? If not, go ahead. Okay. And there's conference seven. [1:06:22, 1:06:42]: We have revenues of uh twenty-nine thousand seven thirty-three and we have expenses of fifteen thousand eight fifty-one. We're sitting there deposit balance of thirteen thousand eight eighty-two. So on this excuse me, go go ahead. On this one right here, uh this revenue is revenue that [1:06:42, 1:07:02]: came in this is not anything coming in from the general fund this is how much money is made this this right here this revenue is streaming from for this conference fundamental. So honestly all of this really should go towards one category right because all of these are the whole the city staff is running all of these departments [1:07:02, 1:07:18]: So I guess if you would that's true. That's true. You have your your advanced uh uh department, they're running both of them. Right, so we'll take this twenty nine thousand seven thirty three and then uh [1:07:19, 1:07:28]: offer that offer this total of the uh off of the what the uh shortage was over there because they they should get credit for that if they're bringing that in. [1:07:30, 1:07:50]: Well, it's two different buildings, I'm saying, but they're getting charged for the mural manners, which is okay. Well it's the same staff as many, it's the same department, not the same buildings. Yeah, but the building itself has specific events in it. So that says true that you [1:07:50, 1:08:10]: events. Sh you you're seeing a circ you're seeing a a revenue a plus there and the Merrmanners it shows we're we're losing money. But we we've always throughout history have lost money at the Meromanders. It's just what I'm interested in is looking at the years of increase or decrease in that. Um [1:08:10, 1:08:12]: But right now [1:08:13, 1:08:27]: you know, it's two different buildings and it's two different kind of events. You got a smaller building there. So definitely understand that and it's uh what point was it? It's all under the events team. Correct. Make sure they get credit for what they do. Right. [1:08:30, 1:08:38]: The impressive in the side? Okay. Is that in your report, sir? No, we have two more sheet. Okay, scoop it. [1:08:39, 1:08:40]: Yeah, but [1:08:43, 1:08:55]: I think I thought. Alright. This sheet here is this this is um full with slosh. Um first one is squash three. [1:08:57, 1:09:17]: Right now we're uh your revenues that came in is sitting at$196. Expenses for squash three is$146,749. Uh this fund here is is basically uh coming to an end, but um [1:09:17, 1:09:37]: You currently have some more actual money that you need to spend on it. And I think some projects that's coming up, you gotta take care of that. Okay. You have on splash four, you have uh revenue that's still coming in. Right now it's revenues that that have been reported. [1:09:37, 1:09:57]: being reported 1 million eleven thousand four hundred and one and the expenses so far is thirty eight thousand and oh forty five sorry go right in okay the question to this right here is this just for the pretty much has the second quarter already hit or has it hit yet until [1:09:57, 1:10:10]: terms of uh the uh the amount given to the city from the county. Comes to the county first and then give it to us. So has the this just for the first quarter or is it just what is it included? [1:10:11, 1:10:31]: And usually sploss money is always lag about a month, a month and a half behind from the state. And the state essentially sends it to the county and the county sends it to us. Right. So in essence what it is and then we bring it in the sploss is generating a tremendous amount of money. We're bringing in and we got a million dollars on here and let's say [1:10:31, 1:10:51]: You know, take away two months away from that and basically almost uh a quarter. So we we we're basically in a little over a quarter bringing in another million dollars in splots, which is pretty good that we have money to spend on these um capital projects that they come up. And I would like to see if we can get back to us with. [1:10:51, 1:11:11]: The total phone balance, a splice, all of the accounts, and then the total phone balance since we've had some adjustments at the beginning of the year. Just remember that three and four is already committed to certain projects and some of those have to be re allocation at some point in time. Absolutely just want to know what the balances are. [1:11:11, 1:11:20]: So you wanna see like um what you actually have sitting in the bank? Yes. [1:11:20, 1:11:36]: In splots. Yeah. We usually do that during a retreat. Yeah. We have we have one coming up. This is coming. So [1:11:37, 1:11:57]: As well as uh CIP that will address some of that. Okay. That's not a problem. So is that it, sir? Yeah, sir. Okay, no more questions. Thank you very much. Appreciate you reading. Mr. Mayor Mr. While you're talking about the budget um [1:11:57, 1:12:06]: Pastor McFarland had intended to raise an issue about the uh use of the portion of the youth council budget. [1:12:07, 1:12:10]: to pay for registration fee. [1:12:13, 1:12:15]: Los Angeles. [1:12:19, 1:12:39]: You put in about$3,000 to cover a local trip to uh to Fogels would be a naked. And that would have covered the registration hotel travel. But there's about$3,000 in the budget for that. He had meant to ask you for permission or ask you for reality. [1:12:39, 1:12:55]: allocate reprogram that money to allow that to be used for Los Angeles for for the National India Cities trip. And I previously advised that they need the council's permission because when it was budgeted [1:12:55, 1:13:15]: It was stated that they were not going to go to California. Now they do want to go. So it requires you all to make that call. They they're trying to prepare a budget so that they can go out and raise money. So if you ask them, I'm sure they want you all to give the permission. [1:13:15, 1:13:35]: As soon as possible so that they know how much they need to raise. Because we're having that uh parent meeting, uh upcoming parent meeting in reference to that. And it's basically um the same amount of funds that would have been used even if we would have went to make it via. It was just the verbal, the verbiage that we've basically said we were. [1:13:35, 1:13:55]: We're not gonna go. Um, but the money would have still been there. So the money would have been there. It was just to clear up that we say we wasn't gonna go. But again, Megan Bib is not having theirs. Um Savannah, um Toddy Island just came in today saying that they were gonna have one, but they're still in the planning stages. Um [1:13:55, 1:14:15]: for October. So we're now going into um what is it, August and they're still in the planning stages, so we don't know if that's gonna flop or or move. So we want to still move forward since the parents are excited and wanting to um take them. The main thing is with the city last year was for the city to pay for [1:14:15, 1:14:35]: The registration, that's what that money was for in the hotel. So the students are working to pay for their travels, that's what their fundraising is for. It was already there, it was just a verbiage of us how we ask, and we just want to make sure that everybody's on the same page. All right. On that note, then since you're the council representative to to the [1:14:35, 1:14:48]: One second. Council representative to the uh to the new council then probably need to make a motion and then we'll see if we get a second and have further discussion. Yes, sir. Well um [1:14:49, 1:14:54]: when we before we're going to discuss the phase for as far as um [1:14:55, 1:14:57]: Bring it in. [1:14:58, 1:15:02]: The issue I see with this in itself is [1:15:03, 1:15:23]: when we come forward with the taxpayers' money about how we're going to spend them. And one of the questions I asked was, is there any local or somewhere, just like the kids drove up to North Carolina, what was the surrounding areas where there was youth programs that would be all [1:15:23, 1:15:43]: And the answer was to me was no. And so if there wasn't any looking outside the areas where they can drive, when we come before the people and we bring a budget for the youth council and it stated in the minute that it won't be used this year for California. [1:15:43, 1:16:03]: then I personally won't won't um won't approve of using funds for California unless they're it's funded by private entities because we can't continue to step outside of why we won't do something one year and then we come back and say now we need the money to do that. [1:16:03, 1:16:23]: Next year that we said we wasn't going to do. And then we didn't even look at any other resources for leadership outside of going to the national leader cities. And Councilwoman Robinson just mentioned what was in the plan to stay there. But I'm pretty sure in the surrounding areas, that's when we went to nationality. [1:16:23, 1:16:43]: Pascal de Cities and North Carolina that it was something that these kids could have been driven to. So I think we have to caution ourselves when we when we don't well when we say one thing, we do another, and then we come back and say, let's do this again. And we have to caution ourselves, and I'm glad the staff to see that we [1:16:43, 1:17:03]: We have Harry at the bottom of the talk. But while I'm talking, I would like to have the council ministry uh respect that I am talking, is that we have to be careful on the expenditures of funds. Okay. All right. So you you brought this up, sir. He didn't bring it to the right, so we're discussing this. Didn't [1:17:03, 1:17:23]: Okay. Well, I just want to clear up for everyone who is listening. Um, as I stated in in what I just said was we just today received um from Tybee. [1:17:23, 1:17:43]: Which is in Savannah, and they're in the planning stages. So we have, and again, Pastor McFarland and the other nine who are on the advisory council, who works extremely hard. We did look into everything. Everything was documented in our minutes. Unfortunately, our minutes haven't been made public. [1:17:43, 1:18:03]: Um but everything is documented so it's open to the public. Um we're very um aware of the funds that are being used. The main thing we're asking here is originally the year that we started, initiated our first youth council, the but the funding was there. The funding was there. [1:18:03, 1:18:23]: To go when we stated we were going to North Carolina, that again it was put in the budget, and all we're doing is we're asking for it to be still allocated for National League of Cities in Los Angeles. We have parents on board, and if my colleagues are against it, I will say that we were responsible. [1:18:23, 1:18:43]: Expect that, but we'll move forward because we do have a lot of church organizations, even Council of Church, who are going to be supportive for these young people. Because as okay, I'm talking about please. So at the end, we have our community of [1:18:43, 1:19:03]: Supporting 17 young people. And I will say in our youth council budget, we are the lowest budget in this city. And I just want to say to my colleagues: if we're going to allocate funds, we need to make sure that we keep our students at the forefront. These young people, they are [1:19:03, 1:19:23]: are out here clearly, clearly representing this city. So we're talking three thousand dollars. So all I'm asking is for my colleagues is to if you if you can move forward, let's move forward so we don't go back and forth over this. Yes, yes. [1:19:23, 1:19:43]: There are a couple things. Last year the money wasn't allocated. We actually were told that they wanted to add this money and it would be borrowed and then paid back for Carolina, and that's exactly what took place. The second thing is, although we're the lowest budget. [1:19:43, 1:19:55]: in this city I have contacted other youth councils and other cities in Henry County along with outside of here and their budget is around 10,000 people or$10,000. [1:19:55, 1:20:07]: and they have a little bit more students than we have currently. Now I know that our budget we increased it for startup money for our our youth. We actually did certain things [1:20:08, 1:20:12]: And it's from my understanding, I've even asked particularly on [1:20:13, 1:20:27]: you know, one we're not reinventing the wheel, there are youth councils everywhere um in Georgia, which is an awesome thing. It's just I think that is something that we need to really talk about and and just consider. [1:20:29, 1:20:31]: Yes, sir. Oh yeah, we have yes. [1:20:31, 1:20:51]: Quick move. I guess you want to talk. I mean first. Uh I'm I'm gonna bring you with that statement. Uh I I guess I have a couple questions on timeline. Um how soon um does this council give approved? [1:20:51, 1:21:01]: need to approve that the amount of money that parents are going to raise, I really would like to know that also. [1:21:03, 1:21:23]: I guess my biggest concern is timeline. Uh do we necessarily need to make that decision today? Do we need to wait and see um concern? Well I'm just sort of c curious, I guess, on timeline. How soon do we think [1:21:22, 1:21:35]: to do this, um how much um will parents raise to to see the total budget. It it just seemed like it just a little uh [1:21:37, 1:21:56]: off the cuff seemed like I know MacFarlane did not even mention it. I don't know how important it was to him, but I understand too sometimes that you just forget to talk about something. I I'm not necessarily against that. I I guess I just need more information. [1:21:56, 1:22:16]: Yeah, I'm in agreement with that, but when we have any entity that the council has started, which is the youth council, and I'm for the youth council 1%. But we also have to look at what we how the youth council and what funds we put into the youth council. And when we have such [1:22:16, 1:22:36]: A dynamic trip. When I say dynamic, is when you're talking about going to Los Angeles and actually the cities and all that encompasses. When the youth council knows, the youth advisory board knows our liaison to the youth council, Councilwoman Robinson knows. [1:22:36, 1:22:38]: And the parent though [1:22:38, 1:22:43]: But yet the council doesn't know the direction. And this is where I have a problem with [1:22:44, 1:23:04]: Things that are going on with the youth council that the council we implement the youth council. The youth council is not an entity of racial state like a DDA or Main Street. They're an entity of the city of Scott Ridge. And if we the council doesn't know the direction that they're going into, then why have [1:23:04, 1:23:24]: Have a youth count, uh, why have a council liaison on board? Why have these chairlines if we're not going to be informed on what the direction is when the parents do, and everybody else knows it's beside the council. And so this has been what I've been saying. We need to have more communication on the direction of what's going on. [1:23:24, 1:23:35]: the youth council. So it's we should already know the direction when when being asked for this money. And I don't as far as we just had a meeting on that. [1:23:35, 1:23:55]: Okay. Let me make a suggestion. Listen to what you brought this up, sir. And I I asked you, my father either forgot whoever case me, so be you brought this up. Uh I I know you want to say something here, but let me jump into this real quick. [1:23:55, 1:24:15]: we way this is seems to be going, continue for you counselors to continue to do what the best they can with whatever they're doing, and then we have the budget retreat, and you present at the budget retreat. I'm only assuming that the farmer may be at the budget retreat also. I'm assuming that. Alright? And then make make that present maybe lay things out a little better. That's my [1:24:15, 1:24:33]: Thought process, yes sir. Go ahead. I don't want to cut you off, but go right ahead. I'll just I'll just argue with what you just said. I don't want to have this public discussion with you you're two times. Go ahead. Because it was open. I just wanna say to everyone [1:24:35, 1:24:46]: Our youth council, which is our young people rising 10th, 11th, and 12th graders. We have an advisory board who volunteer. We have a secretary who takes the minutes. [1:24:46, 1:24:51]: minutes have been taken and submitted to our clerk's office. [1:24:53, 1:25:01]: So everyone will be aware once it's posted through our clerk's office, they've been doing the minutes from day one. [1:25:02, 1:25:22]: So that keeps everybody abreast of what's going on. We say we have a city liaison, which is myself. I'm always available to ask questions. There have been private meetings with Pastor McFarland and the city manager and the mayor and several of my colleagues to answer. [1:25:22, 1:25:23]: your questions. [1:25:23, 1:25:43]: So, by Mr. McFarland having to leave, it was very important. And everything that you all had your private meeting, you were had the opportunity to ask him those questions. I'm also available for you to ask questions. But again, the minutes that our secretary of the youth advisory provides. [1:25:43, 1:25:52]: To the clerk's office. They are detailed with everything that is discussed. There should not be that no one knows what's going on. [1:25:53, 1:25:55]: Because those should be posted. [1:25:55, 1:25:57]: as public record. [1:25:58, 1:26:07]: And our chair, he went a step further and stated he will forward all information that is needed by this council. [1:26:08, 1:26:10]: So with us [1:26:10, 1:26:14]: Maybe in the liaison. This is a city of [1:26:14, 1:26:16]: But I will say [1:26:16, 1:26:36]: This e this program is going v extremely well. It's very productive. Everyone in this community sees it. And I um I I feel very, very disheartened that we're going back and forth with this small amount when could when actually the information [1:26:36, 1:26:38]: has been provided. [1:26:38, 1:26:45]: And we're talking about a program for young people who are gonna be our future leaders. [1:26:46, 1:26:56]: So I don't know where we're going back and forth. We can talk about this again and even the attorney, he's gonna be able to state even the funding, um, Miracle Tim Gantt. [1:26:57, 1:27:04]: You were incorrect because he should be able to tell you it was another line item that he's actually talking about. [1:27:05, 1:27:08]: So all I'm gonna say to each and every one of you. [1:27:08, 1:27:16]: You're welcome. You're welcome to come um hey, I'm just being [1:27:16, 1:27:29]: Stated my comments, you are welcome to be a part, you are welcome to enhance as elected officials who approved of this youth council. [1:27:29, 1:27:49]: But I don't see any of you out when these young people have events or their meetings. Again, this is to the public. You all are welcome to get involved. Thank you. All right. On that note, uh recommendations, we just have follow up at the budget retreat. We'll get a chance to talk to all the entire staff of budget retreat. [1:27:49, 1:28:09]: And we'll deal with it at that point and see what we can come up with. Mr. Um Aaron, sorry uh public um works. Let's go forward. Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. All right. Uh tonight we'll be presenting our second forum public works update. And also this is the accompanying manual that details [1:28:09, 1:28:24]: 110 projects that public work has either done or in the process of completing. So we'll go get started now. [1:28:25, 1:28:45]: First thing I'm going to do is just give an introduction so everybody knows that infrastructure investment is critical to a city's continued economic success. An agent deteriorating and optimal infrastructure, along with rising expectations of what infrastructure should deliver, challenges cities' ability to meet public expectations. Cities must [1:28:45, 1:29:05]: Expand and modernize infrastructure across various sectors to help ensure that to help ensure they continue to provide businesses both large and small in an environment where they can successfully grow and operate. Research has shown that well-designed investments in infrastructure can include long-term economic growth, productivity, and land. [1:29:05, 1:29:25]: Values but also providing significant positive spillovers to areas such as economic development, energy efficiency, public health, and manufacturing. Improving infrastructure will not only create economic opportunities for residents but also improve their fundamental quality of life. And here's a breakdown of the current project. [1:29:25, 1:29:45]: We have by divisions. In stormwater current projects, we have four. We've completed 11 projects out of a total of 15. In wastewater, we have 21 total projects. We have 16 of the current five that have been completed. In water, we had 14 total projects we've been working on, nine are current. [1:29:45, 1:30:05]: Five are completed in public works. We've got 13. We have 13 projects. Six are current, seven have been completed. In parks, we've got 20. 12 are current, eight have been completed. And government buildings. We have 27 total projects and 13 have been completed. [1:30:05, 1:30:25]: And here's a breakdown of products by division. The majority of our projects, our government buildings, they represent 24% of the projects we've got going on. Wastewater is 19%, parks is 18%, stonewater is 14%, water is 13%, public works is 12%. [1:30:24, 1:30:44]: And we go by expenditures, what we've expended on project, stormwater project so far is$496,957. Wastewater$1.2 million. Water is$1.9, majority of the water expenditures for your AMI systems that you've installed. [1:30:44, 1:31:04]: Public works is three point five million, other three point five million, one million is on completed project, and other two and a half million is for the construction of public work facilities. That's a projection of how much the facility will cost. And parts we spend a total of seven hundred and eighty six thousand two hundred and [1:31:04, 1:31:24]: $249,$416,000 that have already completed projects, and the other$369,119 is for projects that are current, and in those current projects are the two projects we got coming up next month, are the researchers on our walking trails and parking. [1:31:24, 1:31:44]: Memorial Park. One thing I realized since I've been here, Reeves Creek Trail, Park Park and Memorial Park, we have a lot of residents and visitors that use those facilities. And we want to always ensure that they're top night of this thing can happen. That North Accompacte Trail reminds me of the Reeves Creek Trail, so that's one of the things. [1:31:44, 1:32:04]: And we got form for you talk about the project list of projects. So the t the projects that have been completed of that set of meeting, do you talk about what the projects are and work? And like arcs? Well, the total amount that you said uh was [1:32:04, 1:32:24]: Smith there, he said, since the full seven million dollars, seven or seven hundred thousand dollars, eighty six thousand two hundred forty nine. Talk about what those projects and parts there, the tennis courts, you've done the inclusive playgrounds at Park Park, and also you've done the uh rubberized [1:32:24, 1:32:44]: circus at Wheeze Creek Trail and um there's some other playground equipment as well and we're also in our current project some of the things we're proposing I know you have never been on Wheels Creek Trail is we've got to do some maintenance on the bridges on on the trails. We've we've had kids. [1:32:44, 1:32:58]: are young young adults go in and vandalize on the bridges, they're taking the uh wheel craft that's in the springs and they're making holes in the bridges so we've got to find a way to address that situation and [1:32:59, 1:33:19]: But some of the other things in that as well and the parts is we're gonna move some playground equipment and also uh add additional rotorized surfaces for those facilities. So but the list is in here. I try to be as brief as I can, but this is a detailed report I get to for past. [1:33:19, 1:33:39]: Everyone here. Right, but I'm just saying there's surely I'll think are there people tuned in? I hope they are so we can kind of get some of this out to the public about some of the things that we're doing. Like the tennis courts are repurposed, uh, we're doing a great job with that. These are splot sponsors in action, right? So people understand what they're doing when they're [1:33:39, 1:33:59]: understand that penny that the penny is coming back to the city and we're doing uh some great things with it. The one question I wanted to ask is that are we looking at beefing up the amount of special needs equipment at Memorial Park because uh the equipment at uh Clark Park has been a phenomenal success. [1:33:59, 1:34:19]: Didn't know whether you might be able to speak to that or the city manager because uh it is quite a discrepancy between the two and Reese Creek. I mean uh Clark Park has just been a phenomenal success with the usage of that equipment. Yes, and we've got some projects that's gonna address that in Memorial Park. And also we looked at expanding the park and then Reed's Creek. [1:34:19, 1:34:39]: Trail and also we've also discussed the security cameras of we want to do that in the near future for all of our parks. So and one more thing, you know, I know we were talking about Cousin Blount brought it up too about the lack of parking at this great facility uh over at Memorial Park. We just [1:34:39, 1:34:59]: definitely have to move forward with doing something over there and I know that property that one there's a piece of property that there's adjoining properties and I know the one along Rock Court has been for sale or ever uh that uh would be a good addition to make expand the parking over there. What is what are the plans for that? [1:34:59, 1:34:59]: [5699.6, 5719.6]: We would like to do that as well, but I think that would be best served in an executive session just discuss of acquiring additional properties and why don't we do this as a staff, why don't we look at those particular areas and and conceptualize what that would look like in terms of expand expanded parking for the [1:35:19, 1:35:39]: Be potentially uh require uh require property acquisition. So why don't we look at that and then perhaps in the executive session that's appropriate we could talk about. Okay, good. You said earlier about all the detailed things of the projects were in a book like that, but I believe you we have them in our book on expansion. [1:35:39, 1:35:59]: And a piece of document? No, that it's a separate book. That's a s so what you were we'll get that somehow, okay, that would help to outline all these projects and what we're what we're being. All right, that's gonna put it. Thank you. [1:35:59, 1:36:19]: Um Mr. Aaron, I want to first thank you guys. I've noticed a significant amount of the public works out picking up trash, the schedule tremendously. I still hear our next door neighbors, some of my um neighbors complaining about, you know, people literally within our neighborhoods. However [1:36:19, 1:36:39]: I've seen tremendous efforts on you on the public works department working hard to keep the bridge clean, and I really appreciate it and wanted to commend that effort. I also wanted to, it was mentioned one time before, when I drive down Blippin Road, right there at the open [1:36:39, 1:36:59]: Of the Reese Free Trail, I see people there every single day. I've seen crowds now using the exercise equipment, and I think that it would be a bonus if we had that equipment or consider that for every part of you that we have right now. I mean, when I say people, I'm saying 20-30 people groups are now coming. [1:36:59, 1:37:19]: coming out and utilizing the equipment and I think it would be something that we can consider as part of I know we're talking about the special needs equipment, but we also can can consider maybe putting more exercise equipment on at each park or at each trail location. Well Deb Greenway and I have discussed just a lot of the [1:37:19, 1:37:39]: Where as you walk along the trail and have different exercise stations, you can stop and do certain exercises. So we're looking at areas where we can possibly locate some equipment. So if you want to stop and do sit-ups, you can or push-ups and those type of things. And not just one location on the Reed Street Trail, but along the trail. [1:37:39, 1:37:51]: Right, and and I I would love to do that and again I'd love to see it at our at Clark Park, at at Memorial Park or whatever the case may be, but I love that. Um so thank you. Yes, and we can discuss that. [1:37:52, 1:37:53]: Any other questions from the council? [1:37:54, 1:37:56]: Yeah. Um [1:37:57, 1:38:00]: But it's not a glad to you caution us. [1:38:10, 1:38:24]: I I had more I I can fall back on that. Um one of the things I I I really want to talk about there in public work is about oversight over waste industry. Um [1:38:25, 1:38:36]: I personally have received some complaints and Mr. Nathan stop me if you need to uh discuss the other another thing you uh [1:38:36, 1:38:56]: waste industry over site some of us especially when it comes to uh the treatment has to be cut. Um I understand that you you know calling and they have to be cut four feet. But in a couple incidents uh it was called they came out and picked up uh [1:38:56, 1:39:16]: uh they were not able or they did not completely pick up everything, but they definitely come back. And uh the other site that I ride by every day um and what they left is still there. So I don't know if you have to recall again, but it seems like if you call more [1:39:16, 1:39:36]: That it should be something where they just come back and automatically get it. But I guess the overall question is about uh oversight over waste industries, about uh summon thing and and I give you some back on this about ghost. I'm gonna say I would I was since they're a private entity, I would I would suggest that perhaps. [1:39:36, 1:39:40]: Um so you're a non graphic council person have a form [1:39:40, 1:40:00]: Meeting with them and relate to them some of the issues or questions that have been raised across our attention, and we can do that directly with their management staff and then report back to the four months. One of the things I I I'd like to mention is I've I've done solid ways with the city of Atlanta and the city of Bear, and one thing. [1:40:00, 1:40:20]: I've learned is if there's unlimited quantities residents can put out, you'll never finish a house. Because when I was with the city of Atlanta, you go to a house in Buckhead, you might get 500 of those craft bags. So every other house got 100 bags for them to finish. In Perry, they didn't [1:40:19, 1:40:39]: have to be cut in specific lengths. So you might spend an hour at a house trying to get everything there on that site. And you're trying to put a 25 or 30 foot section of a tree in a truck that's only 15 feet long. You know, and everybody won't get [1:40:39, 1:40:59]: So one of the reasons that people start limiting the amount is usually like four QB yards is what if you call in their pick up. And if it exceeds that, then they leave it here and schedule another appointment. Or you can pay additional charge for them to get it all at once. Because believe you me. [1:40:59, 1:41:19]: If it's unlimited and there is no specifications on it, only probably thirty or forty percent of the residents will get services because everybody was going to outside and memory. And just as a follow-up, uh I do have a list of concerns uh but [1:41:19, 1:41:39]: I I wouldn't hold and wait in the schedule this tonight and we can call you in and you know we can talk about it. I don't want to prolong this session. I appreciate the numbers, the finance that you shared with us, but you know, I just like to get down into the details of the service part of what, you know, numbers. [1:41:39, 1:41:59]: are good but I think we also have to be able to look at the quality of the service services that we can provide to citizens and that's sort of my concern the services that we provide the citizens uh how can we improve some of those but uh I give them this many good time. The last thing I'm not sure [1:41:59, 1:42:19]: We've been talking about this crosstop issue along Martin Luther King Senior Trip Trail for a long time. That wall is not stable. It is it the potential safety issue and it needs to be addressed. Is that in your department? Is that something you do? Is that something we do or this council can authorize? [1:42:19, 1:42:39]: something to be done because uh that is a safety issue and it is very unsightly that those cross tires are all jagged and they might actually fall out. And I mean you probably s have mentioned that over the past uh we've had several conversations with Norfolk and South is on their right of way, is their property and [1:42:39, 1:42:59]: As long as it's serving the function and purpose that they've intended it for, then they don't have an issue with it. If there's something to be done, we approach them about doing something different at that location and we're waiting on them to get approved with them. Because before you do anything on railroads right away, you've got to get their approval. [1:42:59, 1:43:19]: contract or vendor you use has to be someone that approves by them. You just can't go on there right away. And if they decide they don't want to do anything there, we just have to accept it for you. The issue is it's been that way for three years. And multiple years. Longer than that. So at some point, you know, I know the railroad takes a long time but [1:43:19, 1:43:39]: But it ain't been three years. And we gotta get with them, sit with them, sit down and talk with somebody to get a resolution on what can be done, what we can do, and just stop talking about it's hard to deal with the rail the the the railroad, but just sit in the room with them and say, look, this has got to be fixed. Because people don't see [1:43:39, 1:43:56]: or care whether that's Norfolk Southern or there, and they look at us and like, you know, this is this is a primetime corridor for us and we need to be doing better. So what is it that we can do, Mr. Knight, and to get in the room with Norfolk Southern to talk about this? Okay. [1:43:58, 1:43:59]: Good concept. [1:44:00, 1:44:20]: So contact them and make sure that uh we see we'll we'll try to address it. Mr. Aaron said we've tried before. But you know, we will try again. So what I understand you said you you talked with him and offered a a a possible solution that we would we would we would get someone to find someone to or we would do it ourselves or what? [1:44:20, 1:44:40]: The individual that I spoke to says that retaining wall is serving the purpose that Norfolk and Southern install it for. So they don't, they're not going to spend any of their farms to be to make it useful to be fine. It serves a purpose of keeping it back. [1:44:39, 1:44:59]: But there is a possibility that we might be allowed to go in and put something there or change it, but it has to be their certification, it has to be someone they approve, and they will not take spending money. So if we if they get that approved, that means we have to spend the funds for [1:44:59, 1:45:16]: And we have to use the hand or day. That's allowed to work on that. Okay, all right, got it. Thank you. But obviously Mr. Knight says no follow up with them like this. We'll try and more questions for Mr. Aaron, please. [1:45:18, 1:45:20]: Thank you so appreciate your brilliant. [1:45:20, 1:45:22]: Uh community development. [1:45:23, 1:45:24]: It's more actually. [1:46:20, 1:46:25]: But that's the one to go. [1:46:35, 1:46:55]: I don't have no doubt. Okay. Land means we're gonna work from uh this is not a um this is a PDF so we're gonna have to let's see how I can get it back. Uh 75, I don't know if it would decide. [1:46:55, 1:46:57]: [6418.6, 6422.1]: And you didn't know. [1:47:04, 1:47:06]: Hey [1:47:09, 1:47:25]: Community area council. This is um reporting development. Um each and every month we do see a increase in development within the city of Stockbridge. So we're gonna go through each of the divisions. [1:47:25, 1:47:45]: This is the number, well how do you read this? This is the number for business services, and you can look at those numbers that are in your package that talks about home-based commercial. Thanks. Okay. Uh business license, the outstanding amount due for revenues. I will report that our revenues for the [1:47:45, 1:48:05]: This year have increased as of this day. We're over a million oh five nine three nine. And so um we're on target to exceed uh the revenues that we generated last year, probably the highest revenue we generated in a couple of years, because as you know, our biggest revenues will come. [1:48:05, 1:48:12]: I mean from October November, and so at this point on really we're over a million dollars in terms of revenues generated. [1:48:15, 1:48:35]: Any questions on business? Yeah it is. You you where you think that's from? Well, I I think that the economy has taken a turn for the best. Okay. Right. I think uh during the housing bus, uh people were a little bit more conserved if they didn't want to open the businesses. Uh in two thousand eleven the economy began to take a turn. [1:48:35, 1:48:55]: And so investment was out there, money uh to borrow was out there, and I think that more and more individuals and companies either have decided to expand or more individuals have decided to work a business for themselves. And so therefore I think that's why we're seeing an increase and it can only get better as we move forward. Here are our numbers. [1:48:55, 1:49:15]: Numbers for you can't see them all the way across the bottom, but here's the numbers for planning and zoning. Oh gosh, I mean. As you can see, I think the number that you need to pay attention to is the zoning verifications, because those are the number of development projects that would have come in. [1:49:14, 1:49:34]: To have some discussions about possible developments within the city of Stockbridge. So we have seen an uptick in the number of interested parties in terms of developing within the city of Stockbridge. So that's a very good number. As a matter of fact, we met with um a developer the other day, and I think it's one of my larger tracts that I've [1:49:34, 1:49:54]: That is interested in doing mixed use development. They're going to go back and see whether or not it works in terms of costing it out for him as a developer. But you know, we have 112 projects that are interested in moving forward in the city of Stockbridge sometime soon. Any questions? [1:49:54, 1:50:14]: Is there any projects that are already here that we have uh you know there that we've approved their plan that we can talk about or that we can inform the council about that we don't we have maybe unaware of or that we might be able to talk about? Right. It is I have um building to give some [1:50:14, 1:50:34]: Updated list, and you talked that we would have it by the end of this afternoon, and so we wanted to email that to you tomorrow so that you will have a copy of it. Appreciate that project list. Uh, one of the things I did want to talk about on the planning zone that's not in this package is where we are on the current plan. As many of you know, we hired um the collaborative. [1:50:34, 1:50:54]: The firm to assist us in terms of moving forward with the submission of our common land use plan that we are ending that process. Um, and so we will be bringing back to you, particularly mayor council, a draft. I was looking for that on Friday. Um, we hope to have at least by this flight a draft of what is provided. [1:50:54, 1:51:14]: Proposed and I just want to share with you some of the elements that will be a part of that comp plan. Of course, we have the highway 138 corridor plan that we did. The LCI is a portion of the comp plan. The highway overlay districts is a part of the comp plan. The RSVP is a part of the comp plan. [1:51:14, 1:51:34]: CIP. Because the City of Stockbridge is submitting their comp plan on their own for the first time, the short-term work program and the CIP have to be a part of the document that we submit. It is our anticipation to have this the first draft submitted to DCA by August the 30th. [1:51:34, 1:51:51]: give them 30 days to go back and forth in terms of um comments with changes, uh what things we need to add, what things we need to expound upon more. With a final submission to DCA, our deadline is October 18th, 2018. [1:51:51, 1:52:11]: So those are the predicted timelines for our comp plan. We're looking at special districts around the town center in terms of density. We've met with Ciara, so we've gotten that information. So we're looking for special district names for the area around the downtown area and looking at [1:52:11, 1:52:25]: some different uh areas that can that can serve as um parking uh stories and what type of uses can be a part of the development that comes into this area. Are there any questions on the content at this point? [1:52:29, 1:52:49]: The next area, which we always get proud about, is uh code enforcement. Uh as you can see, uh those are the numbers on uh code enforcement. Uh and we're generating a lot of revenue. Uh we're proud to say that uh we hope to generate more revenues going forward as we move forward with uh addressing uh parking needs. [1:52:49, 1:53:09]: And other issues that are on the table that pertains to a code enforcement and those areas of which uh judge report can have uh oversight of in terms of addressing issues for code enforcement other entities within the city of any questions on code enforcement numbers? Yes. [1:53:09, 1:53:29]: Number is like 16. So how do we deal with that in terms of those being repeat violations, folks, and continually giving warnings? Is there is there a metric to track? Well, we gave somebody a warning on this, and then two months later they corrected. [1:53:29, 1:53:49]: And then they're back in the same place again. Well, your ordinance does not speak to whether or not you warn somebody three times whether or not at that point you can spy them. What it does say that you give them a warning. So another month, if they're caught parking or doing stuff at the end, it just basically says you get [1:53:49, 1:54:09]: Give another warning, or at some point, if it's the violation is continuous for a number of days that results in a citation, then you actually do a citation. But most of the people who give the warnings and the numbers that they're given are really not repeat offenders. Um they don't like the warnings because they don't like the stuff that's stuck on their window and the shields that they have a difficult time. [1:54:09, 1:54:29]: to getting off or the signs posted on your doors. So most of these are not repeat defenders. We have about two situations in which um it involves neighbors fighting with each other. And so therefore um we're constantly out uh warning citations, warning citations. [1:54:29, 1:54:49]: And those two particular cases have been before judge record on a number of times and then after they get penalized, you're back through the warning phase again in citations. And Mr. Williams, so uh typically when we're dealing with these particular issues, uh is it mandatory that they give a warning? [1:54:49, 1:55:09]: Is it not, is it you know they have some discretion to use. I their their practice has always been to start with warnings before they immediately go to citations. And as was mentioned, typically, you know, the majority of folks keep a warning, clean it up, do whatever they have to do, and and and it's it's done. [1:55:09, 1:55:10]: Uh [1:55:10, 1:55:30]: So that that's really just for the discretion of their they're using. And typically I mean a warning is to try to bring someone to voluntary compliance. There are times when people actually don't know if they're actually violating the war and sometimes they may know. But once they give them a uh a warning, the hope is it will voluntarily comply and uh the curb [1:55:30, 1:55:50]: or or or eliminate whatever behavior they've been going for. And so most of the time you start with that and escalate it to something else by the substantial. So give me an example, um our ordinance says that the grass, which is is not atypical, but our grass height is six inches, but most of your six is twelve. And so [1:55:50, 1:56:10]: So if you have a neighbor next door who said that's over six inches, you know, you need to get out of here and you need to, you know, sight there because their grass is eight inches high, uh, with all this rain. So but typically most of our uh warnings are not repeating offenders. Yes, I'll just follow up with Mr. Williams. Now, let's say or you can this morning. [1:56:10, 1:56:22]: there are special classification, like you know some things when the windows change or whatever, they may not know. Let's say like on litter and stuff like that. If you wanted to crack down on litter, there's no ones on litter. [1:56:23, 1:56:43]: You know what litter looks like. We all know that litter is a violation. Certain categories don't get a warning. They just we just go straight to giving citations on that. Is that permissible? Well, it depends. Most of your littering is in your commercial area. Right. That's a good idea. Okay, but let's give you an example. I did remember last summer [1:56:43, 1:57:03]: Because you don't have a unified hauler for your commercial districts and you got all these different people coming in, one of the companies for one of the business might be a Dollar Tree or one of those, the hauler had problems. And so therefore they weren't able to pick up their trash. Remember that? You called it in, they weren't able to pick up their trash. [1:57:03, 1:57:23]: Because the hallway had picked it up. So typically, you as a courtesy to your businesses, all the ones that I know of, when we notified them, like we notified the dollar uh place, they gave a reason why the hallward had not picked it up, they got on top of it, and they came out and they picked it up. So most of your commercial businesses. [1:57:22, 1:57:42]: Are responsive once we give them a warning. We typically don't go out and say, hey, you know, you got this and this side. And we normally, which is traditional in the code enforcement areas, to give everybody an opportunity to clean it up when it comes to compliance. I also understand that side, like on the Dollar Tree, you know, that. [1:57:42, 1:58:02]: That's a service gap issue where they just weren't getting service. But if you go down to uh service station X and the lot littered all up, okay, they don't need a warning for that. They need a citation, in my opinion. Most of this comes down to the policy direction. [1:58:02, 1:58:22]: So that could all hand down. But just like state patrol, police departments from time to time do click it or ticket or they do these campaigns within a period of time to kind of get the message out. Right. You all could do similar things, but but you would need to know what you're looking for. [1:58:22, 1:58:42]: for whether it's litter, high whatever it is, and then let them implement you know a strategy to to address that. Maybe it's targeted in certain parts of the city. But those are things, you know, ultimately if you all set forth a a a policy directive, then you know we'll carry it out. [1:58:42, 1:59:02]: How do you retain your businesses? It's how do you be business strengthening? And those are things. Because you know, we depend on the business community for what it is we do. So we want them to come into compliance, but we don't want to run about town either. So finding that balance, and I think for us is always the best. [1:59:02, 1:59:15]: one company that we have not uh asked the claim that we give an example Oakware uh I think it's a coffee drip lady that has some coffee but I mean she she personally gets out and try to [1:59:15, 1:59:35]: cleaned up but she says people but what she says that on any given day or night people come and they just throw garbage right they just throw garbage now you know for her she makes a real effort herself but when she tells you the amount of trash but somebody riding by and they see the trash and she has to pick it up then somebody said we go [1:59:35, 1:59:55]: But we know specifically that she takes extra effort to clean up her site, but she also talks about where she sits and how people cut through and how people continue to throw out garbage. You know, it is just one of those things that happen. But I do think we need to find that perfect balance where we give them an opportunity. [1:59:54, 2:00:01]: to clean them out. What we may look at is, you know, how do you divide up repeat prevent offend?
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    --- title: July 9 2018 City Council Meeting date: 2018-07-09 source: 2018-07-09_July_9_2018_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:05, 0:00:15]: Ready? All right. Alright ladies and gentlemen commence our meeting. Now clock's a little fast about two minutes after six. This is our regular council meeting from Monday, July 9th. [0:00:16, 0:00:20]: Please stand for either casing. [0:00:20, 0:00:21]: Councilwoman Gobson, please. [0:00:25, 0:00:39]: God, we thank you for allowing your service to gather once again. Lord, we ask that you give us the wisdom to lead in the manner that you have given us. Continue blessings upon our city. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. [0:00:40, 0:00:49]: But we seek to find out to be a God of the same nation without God in this world. [0:00:50, 0:00:51]: [ 57.7, 65.0]: Councilman Thomas. Present. Councilman Blount. Present. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. [0:01:06, 0:01:13]: Let the record reflect Mayor Pro Tem Gantt is not in attendance. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilwoman Robinson. [0:01:14, 0:01:34]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate it. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. So moved. All right. So moved? So second. Said there is a second there. Any question? All favor, please indicate. Okay, thank you very much. I need a motion to approve the following minutes of May 22nd. [0:01:34, 0:01:37]: 2018 and June 11, 2018, please. [0:01:38, 0:01:48]: Mayor, I'm a motion to approve the minutes for May twenty second and June the eleventh, twenty eighteen. Okay, so there you go. Any discussion at all. [0:01:49, 0:01:50]: Okay. [0:01:56, 0:02:07]: If no discussion uh let me just clarify Robinson and Alexander thank you and unless the discussion if no discussion all favor please indicate. Thank you. [0:02:08, 0:02:25]: Mm. Do we have any public comments at all? There are no public comments. All right, so we have new business council consideration to award bid to weigh construction for ground floor municipal court renovations and amount of forty seven thousand seven hundred thirty-five dollars. Mr. Riley, please. [0:02:30, 0:02:35]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council members. I have before you [0:02:36, 0:02:56]: Two projects, but I have a total of six items that I'm prepared to discuss with you. The first item is for weight construction and the amount of forty-seven thousand seven hundred and thirty-five thousand thirty-five dollars is for the lower court renovation. It's so that we can get the [0:02:56, 0:03:16]: courts back in uh session, get all of the uh tower, all the floors, the uh added additional doors, paintwork, and I've included the uh additional scope in front of you for any and all questions, concerns concerning the um [0:03:16, 0:03:26]: uh scope of work for wave construction. Alright. Council, any questions? Yes, sir. I just want to know what the time frame would be. [0:03:26, 0:03:46]: Thirty days. Yes, I got those. Go right in. No, we've been through this process uh a couple times it seems like. And uh so at this point the intrusion issue has been solved. Yes. But I do want to know uh what happens if we have another intrusion issue is that sometimes [0:03:46, 0:04:06]: Guarantee or warranty or coverage that we can get to make sure that uh we're covered in the future? The intrusion is under warranty in which we got bonding information for that. So that's what we do whenever we'll pull the bonds if any more work needed to be additional work needed to be done for the water intrusion. [0:04:06, 0:04:26]: Mr. Aaron has actually tested and over-tested the water intrusion levels. It made sure that there's no more intrusion. There's no only thing that we're doing is correcting the problem for the humidity in the building and the lower level because it's a basement, it collects moisture. [0:04:26, 0:04:46]: In which we will get into that um on number five. Okay, so there's blood privilege. Yes, questions on the side. Well I just go ahead and comment. Um as Councilman Alexandra's already indicated, this has been an issue uh for us for a while. And hopefully uh you are assuring us that [0:04:46, 0:05:06]: Much as you can uh that this will solve the issue if we can talk about this is not for the actual water intrusion. This is to put the building back in order. This is so that the the building has been in disarray because of the uh water intrusion, so the towel, the car. [0:05:06, 0:05:12]: carpet, uh the pews, the woodwork, the trims, the baseboard, all of that had got um [0:05:12, 0:05:26]: messed up in the process. So now we're having a contract to come back in and make the building whole just for the lower level. And making it whole will cost the city forty seven thousand seven hundred thirty-five dollars. [0:05:27, 0:05:47]: Go right ahead, sir. Mayor. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. I just want to make sure I understood what he just said. Um the water intrusion has been completed. Yes, sir. Okay, I I I thought I heard you say something a little contradictory to that, but um you clarified. [0:05:47, 0:06:00]: In that answer. Yeah, I just wanted to make sure that step one, the intrusion issue was solved before we go to any improvements. Correct. Okay, I'm good. Yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. [0:06:00, 0:06:20]: Okay, well before we go, you ask over one answer? Yes, sir. Uh one of the good things about this past winter and summer, it's been real rain. And it's given us an opportunity to see that the water intrusion has been corrected and stopped at City Hall and at the Municipal Court building. And we are ready to move forward with the minute. [0:06:20, 0:06:33]: the basis of it, but the water intrusion has been stopped. We're monitoring it every day because we have empty dehumidifiers over there, but there is no more water intrusion in the court or city hall. [0:06:34, 0:06:40]: Okay. Councilman Blesser, we're ready. Yes, I'd like to motion to move to for Council said award. [0:06:40, 0:07:00]: Be able to waste the structure of the ground floor and this report renovations in the number$47,735. Sir Second. I second. There we go. Any further discussion? All favor of motion, please indicate. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Miley. Uh so now for council consideration award advantage. [0:07:00, 0:07:20]: Wave constructed for first floor municipal court renovations and amount not to see$15,500. That's the right place. Yes, sir. This is for cosmetic changes to the top level. Just painting, add a wall or partition in the building, and making sure that they provide all necessary accessories, materials, equipment. [0:07:19, 0:07:39]: equipment, apparatuses and services to just give it a cosmetic update. Since the bottom level is getting uh overhauled, this top level just needed just a little sprucing up. That's all this is just more for house cleaning and to make sure that that the top level and bottom level matches one another. Okay. [0:07:39, 0:07:59]: Yes. So I just want to make sure I understand there is no real there was no water damage or anything to the first floor area. This uh particular area, there's no safety type issues or anything. We just decided that we wanted to remodel or we wanted to [0:07:59, 0:08:02]: Oh the the first one. So that's correct. [0:08:03, 0:08:11]: Please kinda understand so I can understand whether what what was the basis of this how the ri whether this originated. [0:08:11, 0:08:31]: Okay, I can speak to it. As you know, we brought on uh permitting and building. They need someplace to go. Right now we're downstairs with developers on the table on the front floor. So the reason why we're having that remodeled is so that we can finally put the permitting and building people over in that space. [0:08:31, 0:08:37]: in a conference room so that when developers come, we're not rolling out plans on a table downstairs in the lobby. [0:08:38, 0:08:58]: Okay, so that that that's a explanation. So it's usable space instead of just cosmic. That's correct. Okay, thanks. Okay. Any further questions from the council? Okay. I'll go right and make a motion, please. Mr. Mayor, I would like to make a motion for the council to consider to award the day to wait instruction to the first floor um of the municipal [0:08:58, 0:09:18]: Court renovations of the mount not to exceed$13,500. Second. There you go. Any further discussion? All favor, please indicate. Okay, thank you. Lady Gentleman. Okay. Council consideration to award bid to Addison Smith Mechanical for Ace VAT improvements to City Hall, Conference Center, and Municipal Court. [0:09:18, 0:09:20]: building. Mr. Aaron, please. [0:09:26, 0:09:46]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. Last year we were tasked with the responsibility of making repairs to the HVAC system here at City Hall. We know the myriad of problems we've had. We've spent over a hundred thousand dollars since 2013 patching the air conditioning here at City Hall. And also [0:09:46, 0:10:06]: With the one at the municipal court building, the issue we have over there is the humidity in the basement. And that's what's causing other issues. So the system that would go in over there would have a built-in dehumidifier. Right now we've got portable dehumidifiers going in that we dump, empty twice a day, taken out over. [0:10:06, 0:10:26]: over 200 gallons of moisture per day that we know of because we change them at um seven in the morning when they first get in and at four o'clock before we leave and they stop and they're full and so when they come in in the morning they're full so we don't know what time they stop at night. But we've got to have a system that rem removes the moisture in City Hall. [0:10:26, 0:10:46]: I'm gonna say in the municipal court building. If we're not, then we're gonna have some other issues. But we're just trying to get the system here, one of the municipal court building and then one at the mural manders because there's some issues over there as well when they have a large uh gathering over there with cooling the building and the facility over there. So we all uh [0:10:46, 0:11:06]: All three projects that we want to complete so that we can get all these buildings up to standard. For clarification, let me say City Hall building improvements$327,000, Comfort Center building improvements$321,000, municipal court building improvements$161,000, and some of them will work allowances for$45,000. [0:11:06, 0:11:13]: Developmental is like a contingency fund if they encounter something that's unexpected while they're doing the work. [0:11:13, 0:11:33]: Okay. Any questions for Mr. Eric? Yes, ma'am. We're ready. These are Splash dollars for it or not? No ma'am, they are not. Where is this coming? These funds, uh if they were approved either in part or in whole, uh these funds would be coming from uh your reserve for combat. There's not swoss money identified specifically for this. [0:11:33, 0:11:53]: Project there would be a little bit for the municipal port, about fifty thousand we have left or so years for the municipal court at the company's quotes. So these other dollars would not be coming from the general fund and the world's cost, it would be coming from the reserves. Okay? Questions? [0:11:53, 0:12:13]: the way forward. Once these repairs are made at various locations here and rural manners, what time period does that give us? What type of protections do we have moving forward? And in terms of uh the the type of system or the quality of the system uh [0:12:13, 0:12:33]: Is not like normally the conversion system that the SEAR ratings or how does that work in terms of is this best in class system is middle grade or is it just we just get what we get? No, seriously best in class. One of the things we did we hired an actual HVAC engineer to design all of the systems. [0:12:33, 0:12:37]: And so this this was the system that they recommended. [0:12:38, 0:12:58]: Okay, and what types of protections does it come with going forward? Are we we got w how many what what year's warranty or protection do we have? They they designed it so they saying that it it will work and that it'll be efficient. Suppose we got in the middle of the next summer and something was there was a problem with that would ever be taken. [0:12:58, 0:13:18]: Taken care of by them or other uh yes, most uh the HPAC system itself has a ten year parts and warranty on it. We have uh I believe it's a three year labor agreement. On anything that if it goes wrong, it's taken care of within that time frame by the actual [0:13:17, 0:13:21]: [801.7, 820.0]: Okay, one follow-up. In terms of overall improvements that we were making in these particular areas, so we were looking at some type of um then not related to the eighth of A C, but uh some types of security enhancements and stuff like that. Would you be bringing that back for us anytime soon or [0:13:40, 0:13:55]: Yes, sir there's some additional downstairs for the court. They'll have some additional uh key pads on two doors downstairs. But that's included in the renovation of downstairs. Well what about girl banders too? [0:13:56, 0:14:16]: We're adding the key card to the mirror managers and the test trick. But that's separate. I just want to understand why we're doing this. Do we need we're gonna be coming back for more in the future? Yeah. Gentlemen, any questions from Duneside? Go right, please. [0:14:16, 0:14:36]: The uh with uh if approving this uh Addison Smith Mechanical, if approving this company, will they be able to do this simultaneously or is this project after project? Yes, they they would be able to do it simultaneously. But we can also prioritize which one we want to focus on. [0:14:36, 0:14:55]: No no is that was my question. Is the company big enough to do these simultaneously work? These projects are just moving forward simultaneously since they got paid. Yes. Okay. Well, I I I did want to follow up on Mr. Blood's uh question. Um [0:14:59, 0:15:19]: Let me see how I'm gonna phrase this. Uh is this a large enough staff? When you say simultaneously, in my mind, all of the projects are being done at the same time. Yes. So this is a large staff that's going to be at at point A, point B, point C, point seven, so. [0:15:18, 0:15:20]: Okay. [0:15:21, 0:15:41]: Okay, as part of the A D A C just like the systems that that are available now, they can be monitored off-site and they can actually be controlled. Is there some component of this or something that we might be able to let's say the m the the current center manager wants to check to see if the system's functioning, you know, see you in the morning [0:15:41, 0:16:01]: Before somebody comes, can she get up? Can you manually turn it on via via internet or something like that? Is that a capability? Yes, that's what we have here at City Hall now. You can do that remotely and program. It's programmed days when nobody's here. It doesn't come on up here, but it comes on before. [0:16:01, 0:16:19]: and when they have counseling. Okay, so it is able to be able to be programmed off-site off-site? Yes. And what about the man present? Yes sir. One of the uh comments we had man was we could be able to control all radio. Okay. Okay. [0:16:21, 0:16:41]: Okay, another question for the councilman? If I may, Mr. Mayor, um following up on the Councilman Thomas' um question about the staffing and bandwidth of the company to do these uh projects simultaneously, if it is your ultimate desire to move forward with these projects, I would recommend [0:16:40, 0:17:00]: Certainly that we uh prioritize the courthouse first because of the renovation and because of the ready need to ensure that the HVAC system is in to pull moisture out via a dehumidifier system. And so I certainly appreciate uh the potentially doing all simultaneously, but um I think that [0:17:00, 0:17:20]: That uh a priority uh is is determined that the courthouse would rather type based on those issues. Is that good? Okay, so basically yours he's saying that they can do all of them, and then you're coming back saying prioritize. So are they a larger company enough to have [0:17:20, 0:17:25]: handle this'cause I guess the question that I understood for my colleagues. [0:17:25, 0:17:38]: Yes. According to Mr. Taylor's uh one thing Ms. Riley did mention is that supplemental is actually fifty-six thousand four eight and one twenty-five. [0:17:38, 0:17:47]: Fifty-six thousand. Yeah. But like I say, that's a contingency there's an actual number. Fifty six thousand four eighty-one twenty-five. [0:17:48, 0:18:08]: And like I said, that's just in case they encounter something that not known when they start doing the actual work. It's not saying we're gonna spend that amount, but we just have a contingency in case they encounter something. All right, yes, sir. Go ahead, yes sir. Yeah, what do you make the most consideration of what the two hours is? [0:18:08, 0:18:28]: Council high back approvements. The city hall, conference, and the municipal court. Um, do we need to do the amounts or as presented to council as well? As present to council. Okay, good second? Second. Okay, good second. Any further discussion? All favorite motion, please indicate? Okay, thank you very much. [0:18:28, 0:18:45]: Mr. Thomas. Alright, thank you, gentlemen, Steve Metry. Just briefly, um, we got a large popular town uh called uh Titan E uh established. Uh [0:18:50, 0:19:05]: Upcoming at various subdivisions, and we hope the citizens will take note of those dates of those subdivisions. And if any other citizen or citizen group would like for us to come and present, provide factual information to educate and inform the public. [0:19:05, 0:19:25]: about the DNA section matter that is before us, please feel free to contact us and we will be glad to come out and to um engage uh those citizens uh where they are with their respective uh entity, agency, club, organization, or subdivision. Okay, thank you. [0:19:25, 0:19:37]: just wanted to speak to the voting here in Henry County for the runoff and that the early voting is being held at the elections office in Atlanta. I mean I'm sorry on [0:19:37, 0:19:40]: M. McDonald, forty Atlanta. [0:19:41, 0:20:01]: street and that you go to your regular polling place on election day july twenty fourth. Okay. Ms. Thompson, yes. Uh as always uh I may speak for the council uh to all the citizens that are here tonight we we thank you for your continued [0:20:01, 0:20:21]: support all the citizens that may be home watching. We thank you also for your continued support and just know that we are dedicated to continue to move this city forward to provide the most professional and quality services possible. [0:20:20, 0:20:40]: Also like to take this opportunity to uh invite you all to uh join me and the Star Grid Business Association, the Stockbridge Association of Businesses, which is the proper name, uh Boy Scout Troop 265, and hopefully the Star Grid [0:20:40, 0:21:00]: you council in our continued effort to eliminate litter here in the city of Stockbridge and that date is Saturday, August 4th. Don't trash Stockbridge. Join us in our battle to eliminate litter here in the city of Stockbridge. Thank you. [0:21:00, 0:21:01]: [1262.9, 1282.9]: Yeah, I just want to thank everyone that's viewing and that's here to continue to join us in our efforts to inform the citizens of all details and information pertaining to uh any annexation, de-annexation crisis that we're dealing with. Uh also, um I don't see it in the program here, but I would like to [0:21:22, 0:21:42]: wanted to to uh join me on july 28th uh july 28th from uh 10 to 1 at the mural manage we'll have a back school kickoff uh that uh back school kickoff and we'll be providing uh supplies to elementary middle school and high school in teacher bags uh we'll have a health pair downstairs [0:21:42, 0:21:47]: areas. It's gonna be real festive and uh have a really great time. So I like everybody to go. [0:21:49, 0:22:09]: Yes, I'd like to thank everybody for tuning in and for participating and know that uh we're working every single day on toward improvements that you all want to see in this community and we hope to uh maintain the community uh in a superior fashion. And uh please [0:22:09, 0:22:29]: Please keep the emails and phone calls and inquiries coming because I personally value those and I know my colleagues do as well because we need that feedback from the community so we know what's going on. And we're always out in the community. You know, one of the things I try to pride myself on is always being out and amongst. [0:22:29, 0:22:49]: to people so that we understand and that we always have our ear to the ground and when a particular issue comes up it uh we're already in touch with what's happening in the community and uh you know we do that on an online basis we do that uh via phone email and understand this uh you know how [0:22:49, 0:23:09]: I live in the Eagles Landing area myself and understand that we're all one city at this point and we hope to remain in that fashion as one city. And we uh we hear you and we hear the entire city and that uh we want to uh aspire to what our mission statement says to be the most aggressive city. [0:23:09, 0:23:15]: in the Metro Atlanta area, and we strive every day for that. Thank you. [0:23:15, 0:23:35]: Councilman Robinson, please. Yes, thank you, Mayor. Um just want to say to the citizens and um staff that are here, thank you for your continued support of the city. Um we're out here like town halls educating. Um so please spread the word to know that we got a lot of town halls that are upcoming so that we can just educate because that's what we're here to do. [0:23:35, 0:23:55]: Also want to just let you know that this Thursday, if you're not busy, our youth council is going to be doing a beautification day here at City Hall and also at Cochrane Library, where they'll be doing the beautification, putting out flowers and doing things within their own community. And also next Tuesday. [0:23:54, 0:24:14]: They're going to add the food truck, Tasty Tuesday. They'll be having a youth council at night, which will be their luau. So if you're there, please come out, support, spread the word to a lot of other youth. And as um Councilman Thomas said, youth will also be in support of his Don't Try Don't Trash Stock Ridge Initiative on August the 4th. [0:24:14, 0:24:34]: Um sorry, youth ambassadors are definitely in our community and they need your support. Um so if anything that you can see or do or include them, please do that because they're here to serve their community. And again, thank you all so very much. No problem? Okay, all right. All right, and for me, ladies and gentlemen, um hopefully you had a great [0:24:34, 0:24:54]: 4th of July was a holiday with your family and friends. In that aspect, uh I want you to make sure that you go out and vote. Voting is very important. It's a constitutional right to vote. And keep the faith for we're going to move the city forward. Keep the faith in the fact that we're going to keep the city complete and whole. We're not going to split the city. [0:24:54, 0:25:10]: The city will grow. It will not be split. You will see that. We are on the right side of what is correct and right. So, and time will tell. Just be patient, be prayerful, and keep your faith. I bless you up. [0:25:11, 0:25:31]: Mayor Port, I just wanted to put on the record that Mayor Pro Tem Gantt has joined the meeting. Thank you. I want to read some announcements here, but I'm gonna try not to repeat any announcements that were already mentioned. Uh I believe the U council meeting will be in July eleventh, five thirty PM in the city of Hall, be on the conference rule. We already talked about the hesitation on town hall, so [0:25:31, 0:25:51]: going on. Don't think we mentioned a round table meeting with the homeowner association regarding ordinance revision on-street parking and subdivisions. Tuesday, July 17th, 7 p.m. testing conference center and escort for one representative in the round table from those HOAs only. Those individuals is what we actually need. [0:25:51, 0:26:05]: It's open to the public, but only those one individuals and HAs will be able to speak and have conversation with the committee itself. Let's see here. Planning Commission meeting, Thursday, July 19th, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers. [0:26:06, 0:26:20]: I have your special call meeting pre-planning for a joint meeting Friday, July 20th, 5 to 7, City Hall and Levi Meeting Room. City Joint Meeting Saturday, July 21st, 2018, with 8 a.m. and 3 p.m. City Hall and Levi meeting. That's with the DDA. [0:26:22, 0:26:26]: Okay, council book session uh Tuesday, July 24th, 4 p.m. City Hall. [0:26:27, 0:26:47]: We are talking about Don't Trash Stockbridge, Food Truck Tasty Tuesday, of course, every Tuesday, 5:30, every Tuesday this month to the 31st to be the last event for this season. Main Street Free Movie, Saturday, July 14th, 8 p.m., the City Hall Lawn. Featured movie Coco. Sound and Summer Free Concert Series, July. [0:26:47, 0:27:07]: twenty first. Six to nine thirty I see all along. I know it's gonna be a great blast there, so come on out for that as well. On that note, that's all the announcements I have, and uh we're naturally needed to have it go to the second session. Mayor for that. Just one correction on the joint meeting that location has changed, it will be the Mural Matters Conference Center, meeting room one, two, and three. Okay, thank you [0:27:07, 0:27:27]: appreciate that. That's what the D R D. Okay. And the council. Thank you. We need to go a second session. Or litigation personnel and well setting. Okay. I need motion folks. Well right at least executive session of litigation personnel and bills. Okay, thank you. Is there a discussion? I'm excuse me, second. [0:27:27, 0:27:35]: Discuss it. All favor, please indicate. Alright, we will go into Zess. We'll be back to it. Thank you.
  • 2018-06-27 · City Council · Transcript · Work Session Meeting

    2018-06-27 · City Council · Transcript · source: 10yr-transcripts · sha256 e7b9fc6a · pages – · method: official

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    --- title: June 27 2018 Work Session Meeting date: 2018-06-27 source: 2018-06-27_June_27_2018_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:01:44, 0:01:46]: Hello, sir. How are we in? [0:01:49, 0:01:52]: Yeah, you machine right. I am doing prime, thank you. [0:01:56, 0:02:16]: I don't think I met you. Or let's see if I don't know what we have, sir. My name is Randy Knighton. I'm city manager, sir. Yes. Oh won the war. Okay. We talked, didn't we? I don't know. I used to run the all these city functions up here. Okay. [0:02:16, 0:02:17]: I lost. [0:02:20, 0:02:40]: I I guess he just got tired of being disgusted. Okay. Alright. We were discussing paying. Okay. And uh he said he was going to give me a copy of the list of streets. Right. And the grading system and everything. Right. And I had a [0:02:40, 0:03:00]: heard back from him or anybody. Okay, the public works director should be here, but you heard from me. Let me give you my my card. Oops. And we will make sure that we get that. Yeah, usually as streets are graded to determine which one's going to be paved each year. Um well say I saw the list when it first came out since [0:03:00, 0:03:20]: Years ago. Okay. And I know where we were on the list, and it oh Mr. Rich Trail Following Subdivision. Mr. Region Creek. Yeah, okay. And we were ahead of a couple of subdivisions that were paved. Okay. And I don't understand why we got to other hand. Okay. I mean you had a grading system, you said, private cutting system. [0:03:20, 0:03:40]: Coming in and done the grading system. But all of a sudden the grading system gets changed because a few influential friends live over here or over there or something like that. That I that I can't speak to honestly. I can I can just tell you from other experiences or in other places that um sometimes cities or counties are [0:03:40, 0:04:00]: grade streets on regular basis. Sometimes they grade them on a more infrequent basis, every two to three years versus every end and out of I've I've seen situations where they're done every year. They're graded every year. Um and during the course of I mean especially if it's if it's five or six years, then they're [0:04:00, 0:04:18]: could be I don't know in this case there could be a road that may have had a certain raid that's gotten worn out because of I don't know truck traffic or something else and then changed that be a bit to the last part. What's what do you what what separation is the reason [0:04:22, 0:04:24]: Still beat you. [0:04:25, 0:04:27]: Oh done, let me think. I'll be right back. [0:07:07, 0:07:15]: Okay, I'm glad I hadn't lost my mind here. I was looking for something. Hey, how are you doing? Sweet. Um [0:07:16, 0:07:36]: About a week ago, I had inquired about this. I don't know what was from, if it was from another citizen or what, but our public workspeople were telling me that Misty Ridge Trail and Creek Creek View Overlook are scheduled to be resurfaced in 2019. And then [0:07:39, 0:07:49]: Somebody had another question about Glenn A. That's something else. This was from our public works director and from the um um [0:07:51, 0:08:11]: From the other general job. It must be the same person, the public works directly. It must be the same person that told me when I was complaining about water standing in the street. The next time it rained to go down there and call him and he would come down there personally look. But it rained on the Saturday and nobody answers during the Saturday. [0:08:11, 0:08:31]: or before nine o'clock in the morning or on weekends nobody's nobody's here. If you email me, sir, I will respond to you on the weekend. I and I can show you several emails. I I've had several experiences with A City Managers, you know. Okay. I know I've been worse to people. I I can show you several emails that I responded to on holidays. [0:08:31, 0:08:51]: weekends nine o'clock ten o'clock at night. I appreciate that and I gotcha. And yeah, email email me and I'll respond to you. So we have water standing on the streets. We have a roll down there, but they miss on hash talk that's on Mystery Ridge Trail. Mystery Ridge Trailbook. Okay. And your trucks ride through there every day. [0:08:51, 0:09:11]: These fancy pickups with air conditioner going, and the people riding them, and you wave them down and try to tell them about the hole right there, well that's not good to tell somebody else. It's always nobody else's responsibility. Alright. Email me. You know, I mean I'll send you an email. [0:09:11, 0:09:31]: Um mystery but that's what I I I knew I had that street name. Probably Richman in my mind and it says scheduled for resurfacing in twenty nineteen. Now I'll our public work director yes. Our public works director comes in, I want to make sure we connect, okay? Yes, excuse me. Yes. [0:09:33, 0:09:45]: Oh that's the same thing. Let me let me come out here just a second. [0:09:45, 0:09:46]: Excuse me, sir. [0:10:40, 0:10:50]: I'm gonna have to get you out of that chair there, you get no I know. It's uh I was losing weight, I was doing so good and and my birthday hit and [0:10:52, 0:11:08]: I just fell off the wagon, so I need to get back into it. You gonna be on the wagon, you gonna be up there on the bait with a heart. You have too much weight on you, man, you look good the last time I saw you. I know, I appreciate that. I I um [0:11:10, 0:11:15]: I gotta get back on the on the training schedule. Yeah. [0:11:16, 0:11:21]: Right there. So I think that we should. [0:11:25, 0:11:27]: Yeah, this opened the window. [0:11:27, 0:11:30]: I've already spent. [0:11:31, 0:11:31]: Yeah. [0:11:32, 0:11:34]: And like the school doesn't exist. [0:11:50, 0:11:58]: [718.5, 723.4]: Um CHS actually uh code for [0:12:05, 0:12:13]: In fact they had a group discussion about it on last Thursday. Mm-hmm. And there were a number of things that were broader. [0:12:14, 0:12:19]: Um during the course of that discussion. [0:12:24, 0:12:25]: Yeah. [0:12:28, 0:12:30]: Hello. [0:12:34, 0:12:35]: What's that? Okay. [0:12:36, 0:12:37]: Yeah. [0:12:40, 0:12:41]: But [0:12:45, 0:12:46]: Are you worse too? [0:12:47, 0:12:57]: Well your horse too. Yeah. I have purposes. Yeah, I've been taking some of my um sinus dreams and I have my actions. [0:13:10, 0:13:14]: That's another thing. Why do you have a whole meeting when it's four o'clock? [0:13:16, 0:13:17]: That's right. [0:13:18, 0:13:24]: Well is it six requirements takes a number of two? [0:13:25, 0:13:45]: Oh this works actually not for and this is the time because people can come in and post it all. Four o'clock any evidence. Four and six on Monday's second Monday of the book. Yes. You only advertise for four o'clock. [0:13:50, 0:14:02]: The city council meetings at six o'clock. Correct, yes. The work on that six o'clock. Correct. Yes, ma'am, I've got that down and said it's a good thing. But don't you think they should have the ability to answer the work session also or was she? [0:14:03, 0:14:05]: Well we can get more. [0:14:15, 0:14:35]: Out of the 215 biologists. None of them thought four o'clock would be a crazy half time. And we're directly within the city of the past. So a lot of them severely affected these are neighborhood. Unfortunately, we don't have any mayors and whatnot. [0:14:35, 0:14:55]: I was saying this takes a long time. [0:14:54, 0:15:05]: [905.0, 925.0]: But I don't understand how Clinty was in seventeen years of live here. But yet we've had major cuts in the street and talking about the show. [0:15:25, 0:15:30]: We don't see anything. [0:15:40, 0:15:45]: Or was it to come in and basically come up here? [0:15:50, 0:16:05]: They can't make them here from the work in order to get to a work session. Yeah, or if they can't get to a work session, you can't do something. [0:16:06, 0:16:24]: Yeah, that's it. [0:16:25, 0:16:32]: [993.7, 995.0]: Thank you. [0:16:40, 0:16:50]: They provided you analysis about the sun. They didn't want to contact the other side. [0:16:55, 0:17:14]: It was enough we and zero zero. [0:17:19, 0:17:20]: And here. [0:17:24, 0:17:30]: Well there. Yeah. What do you think about the game? [0:17:35, 0:17:49]: I still see the other stuff next to the whole menu. I see the ring with the whole menu, but I don't see anything. [0:17:50, 0:17:55]: I see him getting it. [0:17:55, 0:17:57]: Yeah, I'm chart. [0:18:03, 0:18:23]: [1103.2, 1115.0]: Yeah, it's awful. [0:20:15, 0:20:25]: This is the same thing. [0:20:35, 0:20:54]: You gotta find the one in the two. All right, so after four, you want to call a remote order? And the invocation. Uh Councilman Alexander, please sir. Could you please stand? [0:20:55, 0:21:15]: Thank you, Laura, for bringing us here on this great day. And we appreciate all the blessings that you have bestowed upon the city of Stockbridge. Give this council the wisdom and the judgment to make the right decisions in this meeting tonight, leading this city of [0:21:15, 0:21:31]: forward with great vision and great care and compassion for the citizens of Starridge. Amen. Amen. [0:21:33, 0:21:37]: God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:21:40, 0:21:43]: Adam called please. Something in comment. [0:21:45, 0:21:59]: I know he's around somewhere. Councilman Thomas was not an attendance. Councilman Blount. Present. Mayor Orge. Present. Mayor Pro Temp Ant. President Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilman Robinson? Present. [0:22:00, 0:22:02]: Councilman Thomas. Resent. [0:22:03, 0:22:23]: Thank you. Appreciate that. Uh Council, I mean a motion to adopt the agenda, please. Okay, move, seconded. Third. Okay, there we go. Any discussion? All in favor, please indicate. Okay, great. And will we have a review of the following minutes? Um [0:22:23, 0:22:40]: May 22nd, 2018, and June 16th, excuse me, June 11th, 2018. As well, please review those. See if there's any changes. Will we go to that? If not, we'll be able to approve those at our next full council meeting. [0:22:43, 0:22:46]: That note is the more particular changes. [0:22:46, 0:22:47]: Okay. [0:22:48, 0:22:54]: We will go on to public comments. I don't know if you have any public comments at all. Just a little more. Okay. [0:22:54, 0:22:57]: So please come forward, name and address, please. [0:23:01, 0:23:21]: Thank you, Shell Noble, Your Honor. And I've got two other minutes for records. Number more, 110, Mr. Australia, Mystery Israel, Lowland Subdivision, South Drext Georgia. Thank you, sir. And three minutes is not gonna give me enough time because I hadn't been here in a long time. Okay. Uh my number one concern is uh [0:23:20, 0:23:34]: The street pavement is going up. I can only get stripped over or skipped over on pavement streets in mysterious trail when, you know, other subdivisions seem to jump in front of it. And I just don't understand that. [0:23:39, 0:23:42]: So nobody can provide it. [0:23:43, 0:24:03]: So, you know, maybe you can give some clarity on that. My second issue I wanted to address before you is the garbage issue that we got going on there. When you cut a limb down, or somebody cuts a limb down there fry, if they cut it down on the weekend, it takes another full week. [0:24:03, 0:24:05]: So then we're gonna get there and take it up. [0:24:05, 0:24:25]: Now they're laying out in the street, they're dead, they're impeding traffic and everything, but we can't get it picked up for a week or maybe two weeks, according to where they want to pick it up. When my call over waste management and waste engine, it takes an average of 35 minutes to get fruit. [0:24:26, 0:24:35]: Now that's you know, average person don't have that kind of time. I'm retired. I can sit there on the phone and listen to that female music that they play. [0:24:35, 0:24:37]: But it takes thirty-five minutes. [0:24:38, 0:24:43]: And when you get through, you can't tell them to pick up two addresses, and you can tell them to pick up one. [0:24:44, 0:24:45]: And one out. [0:24:46, 0:24:48]: So you have to hang up. [0:24:48, 0:25:05]: Wait a couple hours and call back again. They say they have 40 operators over there. I get the same person every time I call. And that is virtually impossible to have 40 operators and get the same person that answers the phone every time you call. [0:25:05, 0:25:16]: Now I d I don't understand it. We're supposed to have somebody to come around and, you know, try to keep the neighborhood up and everything like that. We try our best, but we can't get no cooperation of it. [0:25:16, 0:25:35]: And we can't get to street swept. You know, sweep comes through maybe once every s six months, two years. You know, I mean, you know, it's a very escape. And it's very easy to, you know, you can sweep every street and soft bridge here in two weeks. Easy. [0:25:36, 0:25:39]: And I I just don't understand things like that. [0:25:40, 0:25:42]: You you can't find nobody to give you an answer. [0:25:44, 0:26:00]: And you know I haven't been here a long time because I got virtually fed up with everything I got told. Mr. Yansick used to come with me all the time. He says, you know, he's had it. He just said, you know, nobody I talked to him, everything he's told is something new. [0:26:00, 0:26:20]: And I look in, I read the paper, you know, we got transparency and everything like that. And it looks like it's coming behind the great. I just don't see it. So my three minutes are up. Okay. And uh thank you for listening to it. I I make a motion to give a couple more minutes. Wait to see you back out. Thank you. [0:26:20, 0:26:28]: I motion to give him a couple more minutes if he has time for additional comments. [0:26:28, 0:26:30]: Yeah, but all the cancer. [0:26:31, 0:26:35]: Next comment please. The camera is Vail. [0:26:40, 0:26:46]: Hi, my name is Tamara Hisbell. I'm president of the Wildland Homeowners Association. I've lived in stock breaks for 17 years. [0:26:47, 0:27:07]: And I have been the Homeowners Association president for about 14 years. Nobody else wants the job. Um, I know several of you are aware of aware of me through emails. This is my first time that I've been allowed to get off work in time enough to be present. So I know I'm wasting my three minutes with that new. [0:27:07, 0:27:27]: But I want to make sure you know. My first question does kind of go along with the paving. I've lived in Stockbridge 17 years. Out of those 17 years, Glen Adding, every street in Glen Adding has been resurfaced three times. Now, I have gotten with the Georgia DOT. [0:27:27, 0:27:47]: I've gotten with C.W. Matthews, which most of you know is the largest paving contractor in the state of Georgia, and I have gotten with several municipalities to find out what their paving standards are for their streets to be repaid. Because as of this morning, I've gotten no reply from anyone within the city. [0:27:47, 0:28:07]: City of Stockbridge. I understand y'all were all on retreat or training and everything, but getting this document should be very easy. I do have here what I was told are the standards that most municipalities, CW Matthews and the DOT, expect when city streets are being [0:28:07, 0:28:27]: Evaluated to be repaid. So I have this available for y'all or nothing, but it does concern me, and I can't answer my homeowners because I can't get an answer from my city council or from any division of my city council, such as the city manager, um. [0:28:27, 0:28:35]: I've never addressed public works, so I can't say from this gentleman here. But from my account, we have flipped public works directors. [0:28:35, 0:28:36]: Several times. [0:28:37, 0:28:44]: So that's one of my main concerns. Another concern I have is we have a home, 173 Burke Street. [0:28:45, 0:29:05]: Um I still don't know the results of the June eleventh court case. Is it zoned a home or an office? It was brought to my attention because this is directly across the street from a city library where children are at, a large city car clerk, where children are at and our Moral Manners Conference Center, which [0:29:04, 0:29:16]: I'll be honest with you, when my son's graduation party came up and I had over 300 guests, I would not book Bermanders because the first thing you see is this house. [0:29:16, 0:29:31]: This quote under construction. It has been under construction for two and a half years. Now, the city cur the permit was turned over to the city of Stockbridge November of 2017. There was not another permit issued. [0:29:32, 0:29:36]: No one knew of a permit for this. No one in buildings. [0:29:36, 0:29:45]: And I spent a day calling to find out. No one knew. So now we have a building that is an office slash home. [0:29:47, 0:29:48]: And then three minutes. [0:29:50, 0:30:10]: So that's one of my own. Yes. Yeah, it I would ask if we can give her a little more time. She did say she left work, um, and I would think that we would allow that. Certainly. Is this okay? Any further discussion? All favor giving Miss Isabel more time. All right, there you have it. All right. This home it has [0:30:10, 0:30:19]: As bricks stacked up, the sediment fences have fallen, so you've got erosion coming both into a property next door and into [0:30:19, 0:30:39]: The uh buildings behind Merlmanders, the little building that's right there, I believe, where they keep the management for Merlmanders. So you've got sediment erosion and everything. But yet our code enforcement looked at this and told me that it was in perfect compliance. There was nothing wrong. When I showed the picture to several citizens, they were all [0:30:39, 0:30:55]: concerned about this because let's be fake children wander and this is a perfect place for them to wander. As of today, I am five foot tall, the grass comes to my knees. The bricks are still out there. There is no permit visible. [0:30:57, 0:30:59]: There is no silk fence up. [0:30:59, 0:31:01]: And nothing has been done. [0:31:01, 0:31:04]: Then we move on to 148 Chai Street. [0:31:04, 0:31:10]: which is across the street from an elementary school. It burned out in January of twenty seventeen. [0:31:10, 0:31:12]: It is still burnt. [0:31:12, 0:31:13]: Nothing has been done. [0:31:14, 0:31:15]: It's been boarded up. [0:31:17, 0:31:19]: Not boarded up enough to where you can't get in it. [0:31:20, 0:31:23]: Across the street from an em uh elementary school. [0:31:24, 0:31:28]: Then we have um with my other one. [0:31:30, 0:31:43]: 173 Burke is there, 148 High. There's another one on Dayton Street that has been burned out also. It's been burned out for three years. And I have reported to y'all that vagrants are now living in it. [0:31:44, 0:31:50]: The court cases have been delayed over and over and over. But guess what? Now that property is up for sale. [0:31:52, 0:31:53]: Then we get to parking. [0:31:54, 0:32:06]: Now previous zoning, planning and zoning allowed a subwalk a sidewalk community to be placed within the city limits of Stockbridge. It's called Wildwood Subdivision. [0:32:07, 0:32:27]: We as a homeowners association did everything your past administration told us to do. And I'm sorry, but some of you council members are part of that past administration. You're not all brand new. We did everything. We put the signs up. We begged y'all for speed breakers, which we've only received three of the six that you promised. [0:32:28, 0:32:32]: We did everything possible. Now we have no one to help us. [0:32:33, 0:32:41]: And if you park a car on one side and you park a car on the other side, right winded, an ambulance, a fire truck cannot get through. [0:32:42, 0:32:47]: And my subdivision has a large population of retired people. [0:32:48, 0:32:56]: Diabetes. I know of one instance that the ambulance actually had to turn around and go back in through the other entrance to get to the lady. [0:32:58, 0:33:09]: And now I've been told that some subdivisions are going to be excluded from the new parking ordinance that is supposedly under review. [0:33:11, 0:33:14]: We're here to work with y'all, but y'all are not working with us. [0:33:15, 0:33:23]: Okay. I'm not going anywhere. I got off work and took two hours out of my pay to be here. [0:33:23, 0:33:30]: I just need to concurrent address on the one ten Mr. Rich um Burke. One seventy three Burke. Okay. [0:33:31, 0:33:46]: 173 Burke, 148 TI. And I apologize, I would give you the other address. I do have it for the other burnt out phone. It's on Davis Drive and it's right across from Clark Park. [0:33:46, 0:34:06]: Aaron I'm Craig. Okay. On the ones that one second, please. On the on the two individuals that uh in preference to all your comments, we'll make a point to the staff to get back to you on all those particular issues. Uh and we'll get back to you on that and we'll make some updates and you'll be surprised of the outcome that we'll have to give you a good possible outcome. [0:34:06, 0:34:09]: Okay, is this usually? Okay. [0:34:10, 0:34:30]: Is that RT? That's fine. I to be honest with you, sir, I'm waiting for updates from when I email I you're included in my email. If I may go ahead and um we'll provide responses to all of those items within seven days. Okay, good deal. Is that fine? Okay. [0:34:30, 0:34:50]: I guess what we have here no more public comments. Okay, this is an appeal to the mayor of council. Um I guess Camilla, you're going to present this to us. Oh, you think here? Ms. Peterson? Mr. Peterson? Yes. Mr. Peterson's right there. 30, 57 G saidwood. [0:34:50, 0:34:59]: Fairview Road and the request for denial. Okay, this is uh initial request denial for a visit permit. And 1300 Rum Creek Parkway here stop. [0:35:04, 0:35:24]: Okay, um I think we're here today to hear Mr. Peterson. Okay. And what I would like to uh do first is um have Mr. Peterson come before Mayor Council and make his appeal. Okay. And the staff will follow up with uh history of what has transpired so that Mayor Council can make it [0:35:24, 0:35:32]: Okay. Mr. Peter, please come in like that. And Mr. Mayor, for orientation purposes, you can start his match for each person. All right. [0:35:33, 0:35:34]: Along there. [0:35:37, 0:35:38]: Yeah, yeah. [0:35:43, 0:35:44]: Yeah. [0:35:45, 0:35:47]: Yes, we need to run this. [0:35:48, 0:35:50]: No, I didn't I can't drill it. [0:36:10, 0:36:16]: An online area leave from the Freedom Parkway is the area in question. [0:36:17, 0:36:19]: Short one is a short one. [0:36:20, 0:36:23]: Uh you can have a you can have a [0:36:37, 0:36:57]: I want to start by apologizing first of all on how the things started out in the beginning. It was a little back and forth for a few or so. Um one second, please. Please, if you if you could take my side late. [0:36:57, 0:37:17]: Take them outside the room because it's a small room if you want to talk about it. Yeah, and procedure limit. Uh is there a time? There there's no specific requirement. Um Mr. Mayor, if I may, uh you all have imposed a moratorium on any truck-related uh establishments and in the [0:37:17, 0:37:37]: The resolution you provided for an exemption um from the uh requirements of that moratorium. And so the applicant here seeking uh an exemption for personal to that specific car route in your moratorium. So in the the resolution there's no specific process, it's just [0:37:37, 0:37:39]: Thank you, sir. [0:37:41, 0:38:01]: So um it takes to imagine to get the point across the supposed. Yes sir. Um so I just want to apologize to anybody who was coming up and so forth, um about how I started. Um I was trained to the to this industry and this is my first time developing a piece of property. And um so just going forward. [0:38:01, 0:38:21]: with that. It's been um a year now since I started this project. Actually Mike Williams, the city attorney, actually gave us a somewhat green light of what was needed to be done next in um in December. And then the next, and then they proposed a more retardable [0:38:21, 0:38:41]: The next week out of that. So that's what Moratorium came because of this truck stop. So he actually uh suggested that we do a truck stop and not a truck terminal, meaning that we can house trucks, dispense fuel to them and oil and that'll get the rest, and they move forward. So this is the property that we speak. [0:38:41, 0:39:01]: but uh this one here it's on off the corner road or lead street. Um that's it's best in two acres. We just wanted to put a fence, uh maybe even grabble or recycle uh asphalt to put down to allow the truck to good surface to park on uh no buildings at this time it is [0:39:00, 0:39:20]: zone and one. We do have the zoning. And these are a few pictures. Actually this is the one from our area, but the other pictures are actually from other truck stops. One that's particular that's on our street and the rest of them are surrounded less than a mile away. [0:39:20, 0:39:36]: Are any of these numbers so when if you show something that we got the right point as we look at this, please? This first one is round three, that's the one that uh actually designed on. Okay. It says 103, I'm sorry, I should put some. [0:39:39, 0:39:56]: And then a few of them are uh just around the uh areas that are doing the same thing that we are actually doing. This is this is Brock Court. Uh truck stop, a bigger one down there uh by the fire station. Can you see it? Yes, this is [0:39:57, 0:40:17]: So all these um businesses that we are trying to do is actually similar to what they are doing. I have one in stock um in Ellenwood for like five years, during Playton County. Sold down the Metro Trailer, brought my new business down here in Stock Business, so I started battling down here in Stockbridge a year. So I have experience in, I've done it before. [0:40:17, 0:40:20]: Uh and uh fair county. [0:40:20, 0:40:30]: Alright. And then we have another one that's also the songwalk for that would be seen. That would be seen. That would be seen. [0:40:31, 0:40:36]: And that's the one that's right now on a power. No fencing, no garage, we'll just sit there. [0:40:37, 0:40:57]: No, no, I no I don't. Okay. Your your your business, your proposal business run on Rump Creek. The first the rest of them the rest of them you're just showing us examples of where this these this type of truck stops or rest place so we get an idea of what you're referring to. Right. Okay. [0:40:57, 0:41:17]: Okay. Now the last one you just you just pulled up, that was where now? Um we've got to make sure the council's with you now. All these are less than a mile from my location. Scooby now? All these are less than a mile. Okay. And it's countries. I've brought court. All of them are in southwest. Well she's I think she's gonna go take a make sure. [0:41:16, 0:41:36]: It's it's it's supposed to be the right one. Alpha rounds the series on uh property as well. It's just three director problems. [0:41:36, 0:41:56]: Right. We are directly across the street from them. So we actually behind that new apartment building on the surface in the industrial park. It's off off the beaten pad. Yeah, but I'll be streaming to be around. [0:41:56, 0:42:16]: And this is um, I guess this could be C. This is a business that's already talking about right now. This is C this is a pine truck business that's right here uh On Rome Creek at the beginning when you first come into this industrial park. And they've been there sometime. Um they have a grab one of things and they spark the trucks and trails as well. [0:42:16, 0:42:25]: So what I would just give to that is so we're not trying to do anything special more than what they already know pretty much. Okay, on that side. [0:42:25, 0:42:45]: I'm gonna stop for a second because I I I think that that you may have lost some of us. So maybe include me. All right. So what I'm gonna do since John's supposed to meet he mentioned he was what what what do you need questions? What kind of questions do we have for us? Well I we're gonna get into questions now, but we can't do that? I mean I would think that you would fancy. Is he first present? Are you? [0:42:45, 0:43:05]: I'm sorry, you first present some. Oh well, that was just a supposed property, that's what we I've right. That's more than what we try to do. That's in that area. Um okay. On that note, I'll I'll open the council for questions first before she comes, if you don't mind. [0:43:05, 0:43:12]: amounts to you know I'd like to do this first because I think some of us are confused over something. Go ahead and ask what question you need sir. [0:43:12, 0:43:15]: Well my concern with this is [0:43:15, 0:43:21]: forest trucks and we're looking at uh tracker surveying in that area. [0:43:22, 0:43:31]: Uh because you only have two entrances from there, which is off North Henry Boulevard, or if we get off of uh Hudson Hudson Bridge. [0:43:31, 0:43:51]: Now you're talking about a two lane street, but y you're talking about a two-lane street all the way up and I'm I'm curious on if we've done on Rockford Road, I'm I'm curious if we've done any kind of traffic analysis pertaining to that t to now increase even more truck traffic. That's because one of the things that we've we're we're fighting for [0:43:51, 0:43:59]: Now and we're hoping to move forward with is the expansion of Rock Burger Road. And I'm looking at now, if we're bringing in all this truck traffic. [0:43:59, 0:44:19]: Now for emergency vehicles to go up and down Rock Prairie now is a hindrance. I'm just that's that's what I'm looking at for for as a residents of the city of Stockbridge. Is that Rock Prairie itself the world is a hindrance and you only have two entrances? Well but these are two entrances. So you don't you you got entrance off for Eagles Landing? [0:44:19, 0:44:39]: Not to this one, not to to to uh to uh the main property you do, but to this property, there's only one way in the right. But I'm saying this property is off Ron's Creek, which is off of Rock Court Road. And there's only two inches off of Rock Court to get to Rock off Rock Court Road. To get to Rock Court, yeah, yeah. So I thought you were talking about the property. [0:44:39, 0:44:59]: No, so that's my concern. That's my concern. Well, to me also too, uh Huston Bridge, he was like the exit is less than what five minutes from this property. Rather than the big trucks to try to go back through the city, like the dump trucks and all that, traffic from the quarry. Um big trucks don't, it's no need for them to go through the city. Uh 75 south. [0:44:59, 0:45:19]: I'm not talking about an access to Rock Quarry. I'm talking about Rock Quarry Road itself. Yes. We have a we have emergency room entrance onto Rock Quarry, uh off, you know, from the hospital. [0:45:19, 0:45:39]: with the owner of Rock Quarry and I live, not I live aloft of Rock Quarry, and I've seen the hindrances of amalances. People almost going in ditches for the amalances to come through now. And I'm looking at have we done any have we done any uh analysis uh traffic analysis? It's being done. It's being done now. And so for me, I would like to see a traffic anal [0:45:39, 0:45:59]: analysis because to add more vehicles in big big trucks, whether it's coming off of North Henry or Rock Quarry, I just don't want more hindrances for emergency vehicles. That's me. Yes sir. Design for heavy equipment. [0:45:59, 0:46:19]: Um I come in agreement with Council Blount. Um right now we're dealing with safety first um for our citizens and I if you notice by the hospital that is very congested and it's just a safety thing for me. Um and even with the analysis I know we've tried to widen the road. [0:46:19, 0:46:39]: But we're just not there now. Um and safety first is for me. Um more truck traffic, even just more traffic i in itself is just not there yet. Um so I just want to make that comment. That safety first is for me for all of our cities. It's safer to go that way than for to send it back to the city. [0:46:39, 0:46:59]: Well again, like he was saying, the entrance of it, even if you go in that way, the hospital is there. That's the center point of either going this way or that way. And that's where the congestion is there for emergency vehicles. So um I've been living in this area long time myself as well too. Sure. [0:46:59, 0:47:19]: I'm a partner in the project. My name is John Rogers. I live at 3146 Camp Rentro in Beauford, Georgia. Okay. And uh as you're speaking to safety, I just want to bring up a few other points that I'm not sure if anyone in here may be aware of. [0:47:19, 0:47:39]: There are over 200 million trucks running our highways so that we're able to grab something off the shelf when we need it, have it shipped to our doors as we wanted. Part of the problem is that now, starting in April, these trucks have a 10-hour [0:47:39, 0:47:59]: mandated stop pay. And this used to be governed by a manual log system that you basically filled out on your own. And if you got stopped, you show the officer, present your time. Because they don't want you over driving. They don't want you over there sleeping on the highway and drifting off. [0:47:58, 0:48:18]: I'm pretty sure anybody in here that drives has actually felt what that feels like. It's kind of scary. So, in a big truck, times 10, I would imagine. So, what they've done is they now have a GPS system that has to track the time that the truckers drive. Now, it doesn't really matter if you started driving from Cleveland and made it to [0:48:18, 0:48:34]: Atlanta in 10 hours like you planned, or you hit some traffic, or you have a flat tire, you have to have some repair time and some downtime. Whatever that might be, in 10 hours, you have to stop. It's that simple. And here lies the problem. [0:48:34, 0:48:54]: There is nowhere for these truckers to go. So as a result, I I have countless pictures in my phone right now that I can share and show with you. But what happens is those no parking signs all the way up the ramps filled up with trucks. So when the family's coming down the ramp, it's a rainy night, they hide the plane, have it blow up. [0:48:54, 0:49:14]: Out, car gets a little squirrely, they've nowhere to go. The trucks are all up and down the sides of the shoulder of the ramps. They're even on the side of the freeways. They're even filling up the Walmart parking lots. They risk getting booted. I think quickly you can understand where my problem is. You've got 200. [0:49:14, 0:49:34]: Million trucks out there that need to stop and rest on a 10-hour dive. So what we're trying to do is not only understand and work with the concerns you have for the residents who actually live here, but guess what? If those trucks are on those ramps and that person's getting off on their ramp and has a problem with [0:49:35, 0:49:45]: Their car could easily crash into those trucks. There are no parking signs. They park there anyway. I know that there are citations you can give. [0:49:45, 0:50:05]: It's a tough scenario. It's darned if you do and darned if you don't. So what we're trying to bring to light here is you are right. There is traffic problems. Believe me, where I live, there's real serious traffic problems as well. But listen, there's also safety concerns for people getting home to that traffic. [0:50:05, 0:50:25]: And if there's trucks lining those interstates at night and on those ramps and blocking their ability to pull over and have safety on those ramps, I think you all have seen those trucks park there, right? I mean they're there. They're there every night. It's not it's not sometimes, it's every single night they have to be there. The pilot gas stations [0:50:25, 0:50:45]: That they park at all fill up like this now. So this has become a very serious problem and it's going to get serious. Even worse, because there are 400 driving positions, 400,000 driving positions not field turning. So I just wanna bring those safety concerns to your table. [0:50:45, 0:51:05]: Let you realize that there are actually on either side of this comment, there are serious safety concerns because all your citizens are getting off at those ramps to get to Rock Quarry Road where you're concerned about that traffic. I guess if that was the mayor to just my last. This is my last. Yes, ma'am. I I I understand I'm in agreement with all of that you just said. [0:51:05, 0:51:25]: say but I still I guess maybe I should use this word location location location is what we really are because we have our citizens emergency vehicles that location is not at this time the right time for me okay [0:51:25, 0:51:45]: Okay. So you c uh so I I'm pr I'm pretty familiar with I'm I'm familiar with the move that they got now, getting rail to take the trucks from the south up north to eliminate two hundred thousand trucks on the road. I know all this you're talking about. I read it every day. Okay. [0:51:45, 0:51:50]: But we have to understand that small municipalities are not the solution. [0:51:50, 0:52:10]: We have to understand that going down and changing these rules and regulations and laws is the solution. When we talk about influxing trucks into communities and through small municipalities, that's not the solution, in my opinion. Now we're doing a traffic analysis analysis, and I don't know when that's going to be available, but I'm not a [0:52:10, 0:52:30]: against it. Let me let me make that clear. I'm not against it because I do understand. I have I understand that when I see these DOTs and officers in these different areas one by one every morning pulling these you know, getting behind the trucks and saying, Hey, you gotta get up and out there is somewhere you have to go, but I I I truly believe that small and this colors are not the solution. It's lobbying [0:52:30, 0:52:50]: Getting lobbies down under the dome to get them uh uh at the state uh at the uh on the state uh under the legislators at the uh uh in DC to change these rules when it comes to ERBs, electronic uh logging devices. Because it's not fair to own operators and all these different people it's it's designed [0:52:50, 0:53:05]: big companies to eliminate those those smaller businesses. But we have to understand what's the the parameters of what's happening here is that small municipalities and these small streets in these different uh areas are not the solution. [0:53:06, 0:53:26]: Because the dynamics of what we're dealing with in our cities, although from your perspective, it looks like a good idea and a good place. From our perspective, we're trying to resolve some situations and problems that we see every day pertaining to what's going on in this city. And you all are trying to solve the solution that's going on with you all pertaining to your business. [0:53:26, 0:53:45]: So that's where the conflict come in. So when we get for me, when we get these uh analysis going on and we know that we're gonna be wide in Rock Quarry, then w we understand that that can take that traffic, but right now, it it it it puts a danger in. I'm not just talking about immersive vehicles, it puts a danger in when you don't have enough track we don't have enough traffic lights on Rock Quarry. [0:53:45, 0:53:53]: For one thing. So you're talking moving vehicles, it that's not a divided highway that's coming in. It it's not a divided lane that [0:53:53, 0:54:06]: It it would create something bigger than this city needs in my opinion right now without everything else in place. Not to not to remove the idea say a good spot, but right now for me [0:54:06, 0:54:13]: it it creates more than the city needs, but it but you still have a bigger problem towards a a big a business owner. [0:54:14, 0:54:34]: I think my colleagues have pretty much nailed it. I think Jackie Ms. Blount have been in the truck and I've been in it too. I feel your pain in that um you uh there does need to be some parking issues parking for the trucks. But with the congestion of Rock Torrey Road right now, uh I I [0:54:34, 0:54:54]: I can't imagine how our citizens would have clearly told us with everything that they can that they don't want to see that and for this council to override the will of the public at this point we just it all of us would be uh looking for new opportunities post making that such a decision. But I I just really at this [0:54:54, 0:55:14]: point I think we won't kind of bring in the rules in ten minutes forward, ten minutes against, and go ahead and hear from staff so we can kind of move to the next one. If you're done two comments, are you anything else? I'm just saying we just need to no but I'm I gotta do something else first. I got this okay now way please thank you Mr. Mayor uh sir what you're [0:55:13, 0:55:20]: from this council is the sentiment of all of us. I've worked in the trucking industry myself. [0:55:20, 0:55:40]: There is a need for what you're asking for. As uh Councilman Robinson and it's the wrong location for that. The traffic issue that's been raised is legitimate and really true. The car plan, the land use plan, all of these things, these are the things that we have to consider. [0:55:40, 0:56:00]: For airplane that comes to us, and we have to look long range. This would not fit into the City of Stockton's long-range plan. We have a historical trail that's but right into that, and we're trying to enhance that for tourism. That would not work in that. [0:56:00, 0:56:06]: Lining of rock flory road, it's not gonna work into that. I would suggest [0:56:06, 0:56:08]: If you can find another location [0:56:09, 0:56:11]: and come back to us. [0:56:11, 0:56:30]: But from what you hear, the location is not going to be the right location for us. Uh is there any location that's designated that would allow for this type of thing without speculation? Uh do you guys have an overlay that says, hey, we'd allow it here, but none of these places? [0:56:30, 0:56:50]: Is there somewhere we can do that? I don't know if you're not I don't know if right now the council's gonna answer that question, but I'll tell you what we'll do. Yes. If you don't mind, I'll let the uh staff finish the do the portion here. I'm pretty sure there might be some more additional questions or whatnot, and we'll go down and we'll probably get to that point. We'll see if we can answer that, okay? All right, very well. I'm sorry, do you have something you want to say? Yeah, yes. I I just have uh uh [0:56:50, 0:57:10]: Uh bas basically a comment about staff, if the council has already stated that they are against and the and the staff is um recommending that right now we hold off on something like this, then I don't know why the staff needs to predict that. Because I like I like to actually give them I like to actually give them an opportunity to speak [0:57:10, 0:57:30]: probably have something else in the net we may not touch. In addition to that, I would I would like for the staff to um honor the list of these two gentlemen here and help them by chance if you can if you know of any locations that they possibly can have this have this opportunity here in Stock region I would love to [0:57:30, 0:57:50]: to help them. It's it's always been one of the very in the justice apart. Well the right now as far as counseling as as far as I'm concerned I concur with the rest of my colleagues. It's not the right location. It's near a retirement home I mean an elderly home location. It's a two lane road [0:57:50, 0:58:10]: with if it that needs to be why it's near a hospital and it's just not properly. If I might just give one sixty second comment to that. Our core customer is not the customer who is coming off of the interstate every single night. [0:58:10, 0:58:30]: There needs to be relief for those guys. Our core customer has a truck that he drives. He lives in one of the neighborhoods that these people were listening or are speaking on earlier. Cannot bring the truck there. He has no reprieve while he's out on the road for a whole week or more and he wants to come back through and see his family for a while. [0:58:30, 0:58:50]: He needs a place that he can call home for his truck. 75 to 80, even plus percent of the time, those vehicles are out on the road. And when they come back home for a visit, anybody that's been in the trucking business really understands how this resonates. You need a place where you can put your car, jump in your [0:58:50, 0:59:10]: Your truck and get out on the road and make your money. And in a week or so when you get home, come back, swap the vehicles, go to the house, and have a safe, secure place for your vehicle to rest. Those are our primary customers, 90% of them. We were hoping to help get into the other side where maybe we could actually find some relief for those. [0:59:10, 0:59:30]: Drivers who can't find a place to park every night. But it doesn't have to be that way. We want to be able to service the people that actually do live in your community, who share your concerns, who actually drive up and down that road and live in these neighborhoods and pay the taxes that run this community as well. Those people need some consideration as well. They have [0:59:30, 0:59:50]: Not enough room to park their vehicles. They genuinely need a space and we're trying to help them get there, not make more traffic problems. Our customers that we've had in the past basically don't sit there in and out, in and out, in and out all night. It's an occasional visit. [0:59:50, 1:00:10]: Maybe four to five times a month on that. All right, thank you. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Just for the record and for legal purposes, staff brings before you why you recommend that you not remove the moratorium. Well one, as you know, the city's in the process of being a [1:00:10, 1:00:30]: Land use. And while the current zoning is M1, it is our belief that that particular land use is not consistent with what is proposed or exists on the land today. For example, at one point in time, Rock Ford World was supposed to be widened. As we're all aware, the funding for the widening of that road. [1:00:29, 1:00:49]: Is no longer on the table by the car, by the state, or by the city. So therefore, from a traffic perspective, you have from a four-lane, either on in Eagles Landing or on North Henry going into a two-lane road. So therefore, either you're going to deal with congestions by the hospital, the elderly, or by the school. [1:00:49, 1:01:09]: System here. So based on that, it was our recommendation that we allow the comprehensive plan process to be complete as we work through the ponds and the consultants to look at our traffic pattern on all of our roads to determine the best and most reasonable land use for those parcels on rock. [1:01:09, 1:01:29]: With that being said, we recommend that you do not lift the moratorium, that the moratorium stays in place until the city is able to complete its comp plan and you adopt it and approve it. And in addition to that, there is a history. I don't think we need to go into this point, but if you have any questions from the court system, from code enforcement, [1:01:29, 1:01:49]: From Elida and myself. We're here to talk about the history of that. But based on where we are right now, staff doesn't know if that's necessary. But that is our recommendation for the record. Maybe wait, I'll make a motion to deny this request and to move forward. I thank it. Okay. So the motion is made the second is there further discussion. [1:01:49, 1:02:09]: Yeah, before we go, I just want to make it clear to the to the advocate is that we're not against and we I feel your claim and I'm pretty sure Council Alexander feel what you're going through because we've been in transportation is that for the city's stop rich right now for what we're going through right now, what we're trying to develop and what we're trying [1:02:09, 1:02:18]: trying to and I can't plan and all this stuff. It just we're trying to do some things that that this wouldn't be right for right now. [1:02:19, 1:02:22]: We want to have some other uses for the land. [1:02:22, 1:02:42]: Well I would have to have you that that regular questions. Right. What I can do is set up a meeting with him and we can talk about some existing uses that do not conflict with the moratorium. Okay, that would go along with the lines of sorry whether you have whether or not there's something other uh uh besides this location in coming up. Okay, good. And the traffic pattern study it's already asked before. [1:02:42, 1:03:02]: Do you have an idea when that would be well we don't know as you know we're still going through the con plan process with Ponds on uh Friday for us to get because they're doing the traffic portion of the conc plan to talk about you know all of our roles of what numbers they've gotten and what we're looking at in terms of the recommendations. Okay, thank you. Any other questions or discussion for? [1:03:02, 1:03:22]: Yes, sir, go ahead. Before the vote, I just want to say to the gentleman also that as Mrs. Moore indicated as our comp plan, we are attempting to bring industry into the city of Factory and into the county. [1:03:22, 1:03:42]: So therefore, yes, we are looking at opportunities for truckers to come and have a place to rest because all of us can agree when we're out on the highway and if you have a tired trucker driver, we are all concerned. So make no mistake about that. So within the larger scheme of things. [1:03:42, 1:04:02]: Yes, that needs to be a place where you all can do just exactly what you understand that you want to do. So make no mistake, we're looking at this, but if we're just looking at it from a different lens. Well, one second, so once but do me a favor, why don't you come back over here to the side? Sure. [1:04:02, 1:04:06]: Both of you if you need it if you need if you want it to respond to that. [1:04:06, 1:04:26]: Yeah, I I I just want to try to understand how do we cooperate with where it is you feel might be presentable for us to to pursue this. Uh I will contact Mr. Listen to the point and we'll look at the land use. [1:04:26, 1:04:32]: And we'll see where the land use is currently, which a moratorium doesn't exist, that may be applicable. [1:04:33, 1:04:53]: That'd be perfect. I would appreciate that. Thank you. Okay, thank you. Okay. Okay. In other discussion, motions on the floor. Please uh well ask for the vote. Uh are you in favor of the motion or not? Okay. It's unanimous. Okay, goodness. Thank you. All right. Uh next is uh council consideration of the medicine. [1:04:53, 1:05:13]: Aprovechation policy, Mr. Williams. I believe you have Mr. I'm sorry, Council considered to approve resolution to move forward with the RFP on the old fire station located at ML Senior Heritage Trail. Yes, Mayor and Council. As you know when you retreat you established for already to first project. [1:05:13, 1:05:33]: That you wanted the staff to pursue. This particular item is actually the RFP to be met on the screen for creative ideas in terms of what could possibly be done with existing fire stations. And the RFP would speak to two uses, one as a commercial use and the other one as an office institutional. [1:05:33, 1:05:53]: And so we're asking that you approve the resolution parcel deck this next week so that we can get ideas back as to how those two uses can run to that city side. Okay. [1:05:53, 1:06:13]: Do we have something we have people here? Do we have like something or that we might be able to display for them or to kind of show them what we're talking about? [1:06:13, 1:06:33]: about because we've been talking about it but they don't really know what we do have collects uh I apologize because it was just a resolution in the in the future. Yeah uh we'll be more than happy to bring the items that we're talking about for the RFP. Okay, cool. And what we can do uh for the citizens we can put it up on the website um so that you can view it [1:06:33, 1:06:53]: It's the fire station beside Titch or that's on that video. Yeah, let me please work. Yes, we're talking about the fire station that's uh right there. Uh we had um is it okay to talk about it, Mr. Williams, at this point? Well we own the fire station [1:06:52, 1:07:12]: I'm I don't want to d divulge anything that I shouldn't be divulged, okay? So we own that and so you know the question is do you wanna make some changes to that you could discuss that? Right. So what we're planning on doing is actually you know how uh we got some quite a few concepts out there. You know how you go to the McDonough and you see there [1:07:12, 1:07:32]: Welcome center. Stockbridge does not currently have that. We saw a multi-purse purpose center that we had previously seen that could house several different functions in the city. Maybe the Main Street program, perhaps, maybe a coffee shop or something. [1:07:32, 1:07:52]: Something like that to attract additional foot traffic to come down to the city. This is one of the projects that I'm really excited about because it gives us an opportunity to put some type of a destination spot in downtown and to actually berth the downtown and provide complementary businesses. [1:07:52, 1:08:12]: To Bar Beautiful, which was added downtown. So we'll have that old downtown feel again, and you have a reason to actually go to downtown in that area, hoping to spur some additional economic activity. Thank you, Mayor. Ms. Moore, one question about the RP. [1:08:12, 1:08:32]: RP well maybe a couple but okay one. The R and P um will be to any developers to come up with a concept for the fire station, correct? Correct. And once those RPs come back with that their plan, they are to come all of them are to come back to council for review, is that not correct? [1:08:32, 1:08:52]: Okay, and that then we will from there take it and discuss which one we are. Right. And it does we're asking them to get creative creative ideas for two uses. One is for commercial, because I think you talked about having a restaurant of some type, and the other will be a separate use for office space for the DDS. [1:08:52, 1:08:57]: for Main Street or for any other office space that may be relevant. [1:08:58, 1:09:18]: Okay, you have a question to the council. I I do. Um at one is there a point we're gonna have our citizens involved to where they can have input on anything that we're doing about you. I mean once we get the RFP back with correct, if if it is your desire, you know, once you pick your top three, your top two to actually have [1:09:18, 1:09:38]: have um citizens that they comments. I mean that's totally up to you. I would like to do that because this is their city and I would like for them to be engaged to have input. Um I know the council is here but at the same time they may see something we don't see so then maybe I would ask my colleagues to include um the citizens in whatever we do. [1:09:38, 1:09:45]: um in our downtown because this is, you know, the city belongs to all of us. So if that can be done, I would appreciate it. [1:09:46, 1:10:06]: Any other comments or questions? So um we don't have do we put have a motion on the floor yet? No, I think so. I need to do a motion. Okay, so it's a motion. All right. There we go. Any further discussion? All in favor, please? Okay. Good. Thank you. All right, uh now Mr. Wayne's. [1:10:06, 1:10:09]: Asselation's population costs. [1:10:10, 1:10:30]: Mr. Mayor, um it has been discussed uh among uh a number of folks um the clarification of our proclamation proclamations policy um so that there's no uh ambiguity about sort of what is or is not a proclamation, when our proclamations be issued, who [1:10:30, 1:10:50]: Is to be uh part of the proclamation ceremony. Um and so really, you know, we're I guess staff level we're coming back to the council was to to raise the issue and seek some guidance as to what is it that you want uh in the policy. Um you have um [1:10:49, 1:11:09]: Currently is for any proclamation that's issued at a council meeting, only the mayor or the mayor protends, the mayor's absence reads it, is sort of a ceremonial officer for that proclamation. But if it's not a council meeting, [1:11:09, 1:11:29]: But it's in the council chambers, should that be treated the same way, regardless of whose proclamations, who is for, or who is generating it? So that that is the question that I think we need for you all to resolve for us. And then the timing issue. [1:11:29, 1:11:49]: Because uh I guess last year under the previous mayor, um all the proclamations were done before the meeting. Um and so if you want to do that or you want to make sure you just get the pictures before the meeting, all those sorts of questions, we just need to make sure we understand clearly what what policy do you want. [1:11:49, 1:12:09]: want so we can help you all maintain adherence to that policy. Okay. Let's start this. Mr. Mayor, I mean I'm not familiar with any of this. I wasn't part of the conversation. You said you had with several people, uh a couple of people, so I'm not familiar with this. But I do say whatever we do, it needs to be consistent. [1:12:09, 1:12:20]: with it. Um and it and we can't go keep changing policies just because it doesn't fit a certain person. [1:12:20, 1:12:40]: So I hope going forward that whatever we do, this council can be consistent. Um I know we said and changed it from one time when we had Mayor Neal, now we have Mayor Ford. I mean, we just need some consistency. So um I I'm kind of confused that when you were saying [1:12:40, 1:13:00]: proclamation because to my understanding proclamation is the mayor's does the presentation anyway with a proclamation. Now record uh accommodation, letter accommodation that is different than an individual council member can do that either off-site. Um so I'm [1:13:00, 1:13:20]: just kind of confused it while where we are with this right here today. Well and that then that's part of our confusion. I mean you know if we if you say everything is a proclamation then everything would be covered under this but some things again like you said if it's a letter of congratulations a letter of something then you know presumably [1:13:20, 1:13:40]: Council members should be able to do those in their capacity, send them to live however. But if you have a ceremony here that's in hall, should that be covered under the policy? Um we just need to know from you all what you want for us to help you. So what is an employment? [1:13:40, 1:13:48]: Elected officials, as an elected body, an elected official by the people, we have the right to use City Hall. Am I correct? [1:13:49, 1:14:09]: Yeah. We have that right in to use city all for for meetings and all that. Yeah, I'm I'm the way the policy is written, I'm fine with the policy. Only thing that I two things is with the proclamation, because that was a time when uh the mayor was wasn't in time. [1:14:09, 1:14:29]: wasn't gonna be in town and uh mayor pro tem she had had her accident. So I'm I'm I'm fine with the mayor continually doing the proclamations, but if there's a time when he's not available to have whoever he or whatever the proclamation to have a designation if the mayor pro tem is not available. [1:14:29, 1:14:49]: That he ha he could designate any council member whoever to do the proclamation, but that comes from the mayor. The reason I want to see the proclamations and the ceremonials done prior to council meetings, but be because when we talk about the citizens, the citizens that are getting these, that are doing the ceremonials, they leave. [1:14:49, 1:15:09]: After the ceremonials. So the people that are getting proclamations are not there for the council meeting. And the people that are for the council meetings are not there for the ceremonials. We do do the ceremonials and announcements in our the mayor does them in his remarks. So why combine the two to all actually prolong a council meeting? [1:15:09, 1:15:29]: When these ceremonials, I don't care if you do 20, but let them be done prior to the council meeting because the two I ideologies of the two groups are not on the same page. One is there for the council meetings, one is there for a ceremony, and why we shouldn't I don't think we should combine the two. [1:15:29, 1:15:49]: For a whole year under J Mayor Neal, uh, if we wanted to change this, we could have changed it as a council because everybody's here was here except for Councilman Thomas. So if these if we wasn't okay with this being done prior to council meetings, then we had the power as a council to change it then. But if it worked for a whole year, [1:15:49, 1:16:09]: And it was done that way, and we're talking about the citizens, not the presenter, but the citizens, then it worked for the citizen because the ones that came for a council meetings, a lot of times when the meetings aren't that wasn't that long, they were still there when we came out of the executive session. But we're going to prolong meetings with ceremonials. We can guarantee most of the time nobody. [1:16:09, 1:16:13]: gonna be there when we can't have executive sessions, even if we have short sessions. [1:16:14, 1:16:34]: I just say we have those ceremonies prior to the council meeting because the the the idea of the citizens are conflicting each other. They're not there for ceremonies. The ones that come for council meetings, the ones that are doing ceremonies are not there for the council meetings. They leave. I will tell you that um uh I don't particularly [1:16:34, 1:16:54]: Particularly care for, didn't have to care for the last year under Mayor Neil that we gave you from prior to the proclamations, because everybody's name is on the proclamations. And when I read those proclamations, I always indicate you can you know I've always done this. I said I signed it, the clerk signs this. Alright, that's a that's a special recognition. Now, granted, when when you give out a proclamation. [1:16:54, 1:17:14]: The people that receive a proclamation are there, yes. That there are times though that other people come to the council meetings for other reasons. I I personally like the fact that when you read a proclamation during the course of the meeting itself, that there are other people in the audience to see the recognition that we're given to that individual that we're going to see. [1:17:14, 1:17:34]: It's for the citizens. So I I'm really I'm actually opposed to, it was all last year, opposed to just doing this before the meeting for the proclamation before the meeting, and then you just acknowledge the people that you just gave a proclamation to. I I don't particularly care for it. I think the proclamation should remain part of the actual core meeting. [1:17:34, 1:17:54]: So those people who receive the population are there and people that are coming for the for the other issues that we're talking about, observe this and see this. Now, what I'm what I'd like to see if this is the case, I'd like to see this particular recommendation or or or or uh uh some type of compromise. Whether i if if you if you you want to make something before [1:17:54, 1:18:14]: the meeting, then I'm willing to compromise on the fact, and I know this is not a resolution awarding, so I'm going to vote in but I just give my opinion that we maybe take pictures and uh during before the meeting and the actual reading of the proclamation is done still in the co uh uh within the confines of the meeting itself. Now the other thing I'd like for you to think about is that we have meeting we do this at [1:18:14, 1:18:34]: our main uh major uh council meeting at six o'clock. So I once we get a quoum we have to meet. All right, everybody should be there. Everybody's name's on a proclamation. So I'm thinking that if we're gonna have a proclamation we do them and read them ahead of time at five thirty, that makes that makes me think everybody should be there at five thirty. And that shouldn't just be me and maybe Miss Gantt or two of us. [1:18:34, 1:18:54]: When everybody's name is mentioned, everybody needs to be there for that. Now, granted, I understand that sometimes people might be a little delayed for meetings, so you may not make a meeting. I understand that. Whether it's a work session, special call meeting or regular council meetings. You know, so I really honestly think the proclamation should be done during the course of the meeting because of the special ceremony, especially before the people and the group, anybody else is. [1:18:54, 1:19:14]: There. My compromise would be to take pictures ahead of time and then actually read it and give them the comments at that point. Thank you. Mrs. Mayor. Okay, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I agree with you wholeheartedly because this is my last statement. Um it's only fair and to be respectful to our citizens who are [1:19:13, 1:19:33]: getting these recognitions. The reason being we should all be there as an elected body to show our support because our names are on there. It has been in the past where we, like the mayor said, we only have one or two. And that to me is just is not respecting the honor that we're bestowing on our citizens. [1:19:33, 1:19:53]: So if we're going to do this and hopefully we can compromise, but if this is a change that is going to be made, then I feel this entire elected body needs to be there to honor all of them and not just show up for the 6 o'clock. So we need to keep that in mind. [1:19:53, 1:20:13]: because if not, um that is not being respectful of our citizens and their honor. Thank you. Wait, I was gonna c I don't come back to you though. Well I wanna just say that I concur with the mayor and I concur with Councilwoman Robinson uh that uh you know basically if it ain't broke don't fix it. I don't even understand why we're talking about this. [1:20:13, 1:20:33]: Uh we gave this subject here more time than we gave the citizens to speak. And uh the only thing that I'd like to see is is that maybe we might add some additional proclamations like we had Domestic Violence Awareness Month that was not listed, uh and then we had uh Caribbean Heritage Month. I'd just like to expand it some. [1:20:33, 1:20:53]: I concur with Councilwoman Robinson when she says that the council members were elected to be able to use City Hall for the benefit of the citizens. And I would not like that right to be embargoed or impounded at all because that's something that we do. [1:20:53, 1:21:13]: All of us, uh even though we represent the whole city, have a constituency that we look to, that look to us. And when we when they come to City Hall and we have a letter of recognition or what have you, they expect us to present that to them. It is uh the city, everything from the city should come from the mayor and it's working appropriately. [1:21:13, 1:21:29]: So let's move forward with it. Uh it's not broken. Uh let's not uh tinker with it. What else? Well uh you can work on it, I think. Okay. I I want to say this and make this clear to everybody. [1:21:30, 1:21:35]: From me down, all of us were city council members. [1:21:35, 1:21:38]: from the meeting myself, everyone was sitting council members. [1:21:40, 1:21:42]: The city council set policy. [1:21:42, 1:21:43]: Not the mayor. [1:21:44, 1:21:52]: And when we start using words like not being respectful and all of these things, so what did we do for a whole year when we could have set a policy? [1:21:53, 1:22:04]: to alleviate not have them before the council meeting. We set the parts for all this stuff about disrespecting citizens and all that, that we could have stopped that if that's what it was. [1:22:05, 1:22:25]: But right now we set policies so it wasn't about disrespecting citizens because the ones that are getting proclamations, they got their proclamations. The ones that came for for council meeting, they came to council meeting and got information. So when we talk about policy setting and what what about disrespecting citizens, all of us had a chance to change the policy. [1:22:25, 1:22:28]: was set in place and we did it for a whole year. [1:22:29, 1:22:47]: a whole year and nobody said anything. So right now I'm saying that it worked if it worked then, if it works now, and we need to shorten these council meetings and have the ceremonies before the council meeting, let the city the business of the city be done during the council meetings and everybody may have. [1:22:48, 1:22:53]: Good. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Well I'm not going to get into [1:22:55, 1:22:56]: Just bet. [1:22:58, 1:23:02]: whose building this belong to. Those things are given. [1:23:03, 1:23:18]: My concern is policy and yes, the council has the authority and the responsibility to create policies to make this municipality, this government work smoothly. [1:23:18, 1:23:32]: My problem with all of this is the proclamation as we stand today is time and the number of proclamations that we need to present at any one given council meeting. [1:23:34, 1:23:37]: We're here to do the business of the people. [1:23:39, 1:23:42]: Proclamations are not the business of other people. [1:23:43, 1:24:03]: Proclamation is just a recommendation or a recognizing of organizations and people that have may have done some significant things in the city. But that is not the business of the city. Many folks and the majority of the folks come to be [1:24:03, 1:24:06]: be engaged in the business of the city. [1:24:06, 1:24:11]: Recently I recognized my pastor uh who was retiring. [1:24:12, 1:24:14]: And I intentionally [1:24:14, 1:24:16]: Schedule that for Fire Thirty. [1:24:17, 1:24:21]: And I invited all of those that [1:24:22, 1:24:31]: Wanted to come to be a part of that at 530. So we would not interfere with the business of the city at 6 o'clock. [1:24:31, 1:24:40]: I understand that, yeah, you know, the recipient should have an audience so others can see that. I I I get that. [1:24:41, 1:24:56]: But when we come here at six o'clock and it's seven o'clock almost before we get to the business of the city because we're politicking and we're bringing folks for all just to get a proclamation, I I just have a problem with that. [1:24:57, 1:25:06]: I would even also recommend that on any given night of council meeting that we limit the number of proclamations. [1:25:06, 1:25:11]: having five or six proclamation at any council meeting is just too much. [1:25:12, 1:25:13]: It's too much. [1:25:13, 1:25:19]: I'm about the business of the city, moving this city forward. [1:25:19, 1:25:26]: I could recognize a hundred people on any given council meeting night, but we are not about that. [1:25:27, 1:25:42]: So let's get back to the business of the city. If you have folks that you want to recognize because they're doing great things, yes, this city, this building is available. Come in here at four o'clock, five o'clock, six o'clock. Invite a hundred folks and come in and you do what you do. [1:25:42, 1:25:46]: But let's not waste the citizens' time. [1:25:47, 1:25:49]: With all of these [1:25:49, 1:25:52]: You know, who let's get down to the business. [1:25:53, 1:26:12]: There are a lot of things. We got folks over here that made some comments earlier. We have business that we need to take to. We have ordinances. We got parking in the street. This is the business that we need to be about. Let's get away from this, you know, everybody wanna be out front giving somebody a proclamation. I'm not here for that. [1:26:12, 1:26:32]: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Thank you, Mayor. Um Mr. Williams, I know you're asking for recommendations, and I think that after hearing all of the council members um and hearing our mayor speak, um you we have an issue about possible limiting proclamation. We have an issue on [1:26:32, 1:26:52]: maybe taking pictures before. We have the issue on whether or not we should start the ceremony at five thirty. Then we have another issue of that I always consider our staff and the time it it takes. I every time I have a meeting, usually at those, I I mark the time that we how long it takes us to discuss which particular issues because that [1:26:52, 1:27:06]: I would challenge all of my colleagues, all the council members and mayor, that we uh not say do behind closed doors, but fix and understand and get to know what the issues are before the meeting and ask the important questions. [1:27:06, 1:27:26]: that we need to ask at the meeting but know the detailed information as much as possible. And having said that, my question to you, Mr. Williams, is whether or not we've looked at other cities practices and is this something we can look into and discuss amongst council when you bring us back the suggestion of a policy and we go re go with it. [1:27:27, 1:27:47]: Um when the original policy was put together in 2016, we did. Um frankly I did not kind of go back and do additional review because I think at this point it's really what a stock rate you want. Um but the original policy was basically [1:27:47, 1:27:49]: [5270.0, 5279.8]: you had indicated you wanted to see and then we looked to other cities to see kind of what their processes were and kind of put that together to present what what's currently possible. [1:28:00, 1:28:04]: Having said that, I do have concerns in regards to [1:28:04, 1:28:24]: timing at the meetings. I do notice that we might start at 6, but we're not done with ceremonials until 645. And a lot of that is getting the groups up, deciding where we're going to take pictures, moving chairs, bringing chairs back, having one group come in, another group, and then we do another acknowledgement right after. [1:28:24, 1:28:44]: That. And so it is repetitive. We do need to streamline it, and if that means bump that portion up to 530 or one one or the other, I'm willing to compromise. I just I think that we need to be considerate of our staff time and the people who are here for their businesses and for their for information about the city. [1:28:44, 1:28:56]: Um I I think we need to be cons taking into consideration actually the honors of those who get proclamations as well. But we we do need it to be streamlined and [1:28:56, 1:28:57]: Yeah, yeah, okay. [1:28:58, 1:29:14]: I'm one of those people that are guilty. If we have at five o'clock, you know, I have two kids and I'm an attorney. I'm not going to be able to get here at five o'clock. And that's okay. Um I I still send my well wishes and the mayor signs off on it and and I mean no harm. And if I can be here, then I'm gonna be here. [1:29:15, 1:29:23]: But you know, five thirty may be that reasonable amount of time. I think it's a good compromise, um and it gets us in and out. [1:29:24, 1:29:27]: And and and we can go on about the the city's business. [1:29:30, 1:29:41]: So otherwise, you've got a bunch of ideas and thoughts here. So you're gonna try to try to compile all that and put it in some type of policy and get it back to us for the two on again. So what's it talking about? [1:29:41, 1:30:01]: Yes, I mean I we we've heard the the points and if I may just recommend the staff put together and bring back I think maybe a compromise or whatever. Um I'm not quite sure as I speak exactly what it will be, but we'll we'll do our best. [1:30:01, 1:30:21]: I mean the compromise seemed to me with the mayor was to take the pictures. Um take the pictures before that way like uh Mayor Frontier Gat said, we don't have to move chairs around. Um because I do like how we when we're starting our meeting, the camera starts and that is to me [1:30:21, 1:30:41]: For the honor of our citizens and the record keeping in the future. Everybody has said what they've said, but I like the compromise, and then we can move forward because we're all here for the people's business, but at the same time, we need to be on the same accord and be consistent. [1:30:41, 1:30:46]: That's where I'm at. We just said we did this in 2016. [1:30:47, 1:30:49]: And now we're here in 2018. [1:30:50, 1:31:10]: So if we can be consistent, then we won't have to waste time like we're wasting now. Because like I said, we have our citizens that were talking their concerns on what they needed and we're just wasting time. So I just want consistency, please. We're spending too much time on this. [1:31:10, 1:31:30]: My recommendation is go ahead and make a motion that we we that we have the policy to have all proclamations done before six o'clock. However, we need the cartel. My motion is to have all proclamations done before six o'clock. I second. Second. Any further discussion? Yes. Go right in, please. I will just simply say, like I said, uh [1:31:30, 1:31:50]: I I think we spent a lot of time talking about this. I really don't see a problem. And honestly, I kind of see things a little bit differently. When personally myself, when we're doing the proclamations, I've never seen us have five proclamations. I always seen us have two or one, uh, maybe three at the most. And what to me that does is it gives working [1:31:50, 1:32:10]: give people a little extra time to get here from work if they want to see an issue before the meet of the meeting. We start a meeting like today we have people who couldn't make it at four. Sometimes people can't make it at six with every kind of traffic that's kind of tough. So, you know, when we get started with the meet of the meeting by six thirty, then you know [1:32:10, 1:32:30]: What the proclamations are out of the way, but I have a real thing about making sure I disagree firmly with the statement that this is not the people's business. When we celebrate ALZ, the proclamation, it is the people's business. Uh when we celebrate uh and we honor uh various communities. [1:32:30, 1:32:50]: you know, Black History Month or whatever, that is the community month. When we under uh different uh you know um uh causes uh for the particular year uh you know throughout the year that uh those are definitely causes that are worthwhile. Uh when we look at uh you know breast cancer awareness and [1:32:50, 1:33:10]: In October. That's the people's business. And that's that those are very important ceremonial items that people take to heart and they should ext receive the biggest audience possible because it is the business of the people. But I diverse. [1:33:09, 1:33:29]: I'm considering the timing more than anything. I'm leaning because of the timing. Um, I'm also I I mean both sides make some valid points here. I I was hoping we could postpone this and and and iron out some of the issues, but you know, again [1:33:29, 1:33:34]: And I was stating 530 is right before the meeting is not too bad. [1:33:35, 1:33:35]: Yeah. [1:33:35, 1:33:55]: And then I I'm just torn. I'm torn in between the two because I I understand the purpose. I I get it. You know, you wanna award and you want to recognize the citizens, but at the same time we're starting meetings, the actual meetings at six thirty, six forty five, sometimes even further, and it's getting, you know, we we want [1:33:55, 1:33:57]: make sure we keep that under control. [1:33:58, 1:34:18]: Well I will say to you that your demonstration, I will say to you the council that this doesn't pass, we'll obviously give direction to redo this and come up with another suggestion. That passes will go to 530. Uh and I will submit to you that if it does pass and go we go to five thirty for all this. I would hope that this council make a concerted effort. I'll be there so we sense that your names are included on this. [1:34:18, 1:34:34]: and we can have we can take up pictures and have that pre-part of the process. I think it is part of the business to do the city to recognize people properly for what whatever good things the organization have done. On that note party, any other questions? Yes sir. Yes sir. My last comment. [1:34:37, 1:34:57]: For me, I'm a people person. If I'm going to recognize an organization for what they do, uh I'm boots on the ground and I give them my money so they can have an impact if it's cancer awareness. Give them your money. Get on the ground and help them to uh [1:34:57, 1:35:17]: Find causes. That's what these folks want. Yeah, it's okay. Come up here and give them a proclamation for what they do. But hey, get out there on the ground with them. Give them your money. That's big volume if you're trying to recognize any of these things that they do. Give them money so they can do the research. Alright, if another comments. [1:35:17, 1:35:29]: Mr. I have one other comment. Yes, ma'am. I did please I actually question to Mr. Blount. Mr. Blount, in your motion, are you stating you said eight time before six o'clock. Can we specify time and say five thirty? [1:35:30, 1:35:33]: It doesn't matter if we do 20 proclamations. [1:35:34, 1:35:35]: As long as they come [1:35:39, 1:35:42]: about these ceremonial done before six o'clock. [1:35:42, 1:35:49]: I'm gonna be doing at five, five fifteen, five thirty, five forty five as long as it's down before six o'clock. [1:35:50, 1:36:08]: Well, I I would like for it to just actually state five thirty. I have I have issues even now at four o'clock trying to get to these meetings, which I'm gonna bring up at some other particular time. Um so I would ask that we if you would consider amending the motion to stay five thirty. [1:36:10, 1:36:30]: It doesn't matter what time. I my motion is that all proclamations be done before six o'clock. Whatever you all do underlining that, it's fine with me. I'll just say all proclamation be done before six o'clock. Well, um, I understand that, but I'm just asking for a specific time of starting it at five. [1:36:30, 1:36:48]: Okay, I'll take it. I'll make the motion for the m for for the proclamation to be done at five thirty. Thank you. So Mr. Mayor, I'm gonna interpret that as agreeing to friendly amendment if you will, and the council is okay with that amended motion and that's what's before. Does it have to be seconded? [1:36:48, 1:37:08]: Oh it'd be nice if it if it were second that just is there a second to that? There you go. That the proclamation that the proclamations will be all proclamations we uh be done at five thirty prior to it would be prior to the actual six o'clock start time for the meeting. Here's the caveat if you don't mind the what's your motion. [1:37:08, 1:37:21]: The caveat is that I don't want that to to s to give a justification going past six o'clock. These proclamations and if you see that you're gonna be going past six, then you need to reschedule at five fifteen. [1:37:22, 1:37:42]: I want I would my motion is that all proclamations be done before six o'clock. Five thirty is a is is acceptable as long as they're done within the thirty minute uh time. All right, so so I guess we need to make sure we got the motion straight out. All right, so we um we try [1:37:42, 1:38:02]: Amended it was seconded whether or not that was a stand or whether or not you just go back to the I'm amending it. It's my motion that all proclamations will be done at 530, but concluded by six. That's my motion. Alright, is there a second tonight? That's seven. There we go. Now we've done that. Is that legal to do that? That's right. Okay, all right. Now and if [1:38:02, 1:38:03]: the discussion. [1:38:04, 1:38:24]: All right. No, no, no. No. That's why I double that's why I looked at the attorney. You he redrew that. So the motion is to have all proclamations uh start at six, five thirty, but conclude before it's six o'clock meeting. If I got that right. All right. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:38:24, 1:38:25]: I'll both. [1:38:28, 1:38:30]: That's right. [1:38:35, 1:38:55]: Alright, so what we have now is uh council situation to authorize the surveillance of 2018-2019 Georgia Department of Economic Development, Tourism Product Development Grant Funding Requests. Yes, Mayor and Council, um what we bring before you night is a uh grant application we're gonna separation on Main Street. [1:38:54, 1:39:14]: I think in 2015 you uh approved uh the city to submit this same grant. There is a bad requirement of five thousand dollars in what you'd be aware of. Uh this year the grant is being submitted on behalf of the Caribbean Hamburg uh building uh that is being renowned over in [1:39:14, 1:39:34]: In that community and um authorization for staff to submit the application. It is a five thousand dollar match. Okay, okay, of course. So I just want to make sure this is you you're talking about the uh [1:39:34, 1:39:54]: Green FA. Right, so this business is privately owned, correct? You know, from my understanding, from talking to Kira, uh apparently looking back when the when the project came through for rezoning, from my understanding that mayor and council thought it had some historical significance. [1:39:54, 1:40:14]: Uh one of the things that we required in the zoning application was that they attempt to get it on historical register. However, it did not make the historical register, but from my understanding, from talking to Kira, it was the desire of the Mary Council to make it of historical value because of the value that it has. [1:40:14, 1:40:27]: for that particular community. And what this grant would do, should you choose to move forward with allowance to submit it, it would actually give the monies to assist in terms of bringing the project [1:40:28, 1:40:30]: What it's considered to be a historical value. [1:40:31, 1:40:32]: up to a particular state. [1:40:33, 1:40:37]: I I I the property owner bought the building. [1:40:37, 1:40:41]: They own the building. So we're gonna turn five minutes of grenades again. [1:40:42, 1:41:02]: Five thousand, ten thousand. I I think your grant will be well you will be five thousand out of your pocket and I think uh you can do any time so it doesn't have to cost in cash. Um'cause staff time, staff commitment, their hours dedicated to can be considered. I just want you to be made aware. I don't [1:41:02, 1:41:22]: I don't mind applying for this grant, but giving the money to a private business, that's that's a bad trust for any I wouldn't do that for any business in town to just give them money um after the purchase uh of the building. I understand what it is. If we own the building and we were leasing it to them. [1:41:22, 1:41:42]: And we were putting the investment in, that would be different. How are we gonna justify giving a spending five thousand dollars of the citizens' money to apply for the grant, then give them the money and Well, I think the way that you simply work, I don't think you necessarily give an individual the cash. Oh yeah. [1:41:42, 1:42:02]: grants are done. Father, what I think what they were attempting to do is again, it all depends on whether or not you as a counselor consider it as it having any historical value and what commitment you want to make to that should you choose that to be your decision and what type of commitment you want to make. [1:42:02, 1:42:22]: asking is whether or not you want to allow them to submit. Now what you can do, uh I don't know if the project is project specific. I have an opinion that based on what Kiery gave that the project was very specific to that particular facility. But again it is a$5,000. [1:42:22, 1:42:42]: And it will be to bring the structure into compliance of some sort. So this is not just say this. Okay. I'm okay with applying for the grant. I'm not okay with giving it to a specific institution. We're getting ready to develop a whole lot of citizen money in uh the fire. [1:42:42, 1:43:02]: station we could use that money for the fire station in a building that we own versus uh giving basic we can look at it giving it however that money is going toward a building that is owned by a private individual. They knew going into it that it was going to cost in order to bring the building up to code. [1:43:02, 1:43:22]: and to have it uh be what it is, uh what we uh would like it to be in that particular area. And then let me just say this before Ms. Ms. You know, I I said I think at the last meeting that you as a body at I think 2015, I guess, agreed to establish a historic preservation. [1:43:21, 1:43:41]: At some point in time, I'm hoping that you will import that board because I think that board will then be able to come back and designate what they think is historic, what they think is of value to you as a recommendation, and what they may recommend the city in terms of doing in that historic district. [1:43:41, 1:44:01]: So I I would I would not, you know, I would remiss of me not to say I really do think you need that historic preservation board because I think they would have had an opportunity to weigh in on any applications that you make to the state as pertains to anything of historical significance. Okay, thank you. [1:44:01, 1:44:21]: You may know that I'm very close to this issue. I've worked um in this endeavor for many, many years. Uh I knew Mrs. Hammer personally. Uh actually I was a part of the writing of the uh proposal to get the designation for the Green Front. [1:44:21, 1:44:41]: Uh cafe in the beginning. I was called concerning this issue, and I think the the issue that was raised, I think it is a legitimate issue that we have to look at. Um I am trying to work with uh the Main Street program and the owner of this property to uh look at how. [1:44:41, 1:44:45]: how we can actually match uh the funds from the grant [1:44:45, 1:45:05]: Just to move forward. But I think in the long term, when we look at tourism and preservation, this bill needs to be included in the scope of all of that. But I do have some concerns that raised, which are legitimate. But I think that I would be personally just as a citizen. [1:45:05, 1:45:18]: we'll be working with this business owner uh just to try to come up with that that matching fund. But I do feel that it is a work right project uh for the application for the grant to be submitted. Um [1:45:19, 1:45:39]: And I won't get into who um Carol McHammer was and what the Greenfront Cafe represented. It is significant. So personally I am willing to work with this business uh to make these things happen. And I would recommend that we go forward uh with the application. But I do have a reservation about [1:45:39, 1:45:59]: you know the matching funds of it and I think um just having a conversation with Cone I think we can sort of let me just add if you look at your tab I think here provided information on her tab this is a part of tourism that ties into I think uh NLK and the old trail and all [1:45:59, 1:46:19]: All of that and so when I want to see where they reported the bashing funds from, it was gonna be for the tourism for hotel hotel. So that's how they get opposed to that. And that's the bigger picture. [1:46:19, 1:46:30]: Um I am very familiar with that area. Um, not only Mr. Thomas, um I grew up over there and um [1:46:32, 1:46:52]: This that's not a good look. Did we consult our attorney um before wanting to do that? Because we do have the church where Daddy King did his first sermon. And we already know that's gonna be part of our history. Um well I think and we're and the reason why I'm saying that, we placed a monument in front of that church. [1:46:52, 1:47:12]: That um even just the landscape piece and different things can be done over there that has already been brought forth. Um so I just want us to stay, whatever task force that you put together, that we stay in line on what we're doing. Because when you start getting to a private [1:47:12, 1:47:32]: business for somebody to purchase city wise. That is not good to me. I mean I'm not an attorney, but legally, so that's why I was asking did we seek the attorney on this? Well um I think the grant applications typically we don't we only seek legal because it's an application. So before we do it, we [1:47:32, 1:47:52]: know it comes to you. But when I said in 2015 you got this grant before, you actually got the grant before. That's what you got the monument. That first five thousand dollars that you did match was just with that particular monument and the initial landscape. Okay. Okay. Really good. But okay. I would like this again. I would like that to [1:47:52, 1:48:12]: Task force, um Ms. Moore. But again, you say you don't have to seek legal, but I just said within in-house, because if it's coming to council now and how we're feeling, I would suggest that we could at least ask the question. Because even if it's just a grant or whatever, um it's just [1:48:12, 1:48:32]: the perception of knowing that everybody knows and like um uh Mr. uh Councilman Thomas said, his civic organization or whoever, those are opportunities that can be used to help with funding. We just don't want to out o overstep our boundaries because there are organizations that are [1:48:32, 1:48:52]: With Miss Carrie McHambrick's um legacy. Um, so we want to make sure we're not just jumping over, we want to stay in line with what we are as a city. Right. And then before you die, it uh she's just asking to move forward if it's your desire not to move forward with the application of Sabin on this grant. [1:48:52, 1:49:06]: Yeah. They will say vote no. Then that may give some time for you to pull your historic preservation uh group together for them to pursue. Okay, John. [1:49:06, 1:49:26]: 'Cause I concur what they're saying it would be easier for us if if it had been like Hanley Funeral Room in Atlanta that was on Bell Street. It was where King's body was. They made it a histor if it was on historic registry, it would even make it easier for [1:49:26, 1:49:46]: us to say let's move forward because we don't want to I wouldn't want to and I'm pretty pretty sure what the council is saying to to because we it hasn't been identified I think that we should bring uh uh historic uh reservation committee in because they would have done all of their homework before it came to before it comes to and they will bring [1:49:46, 1:50:06]: I mean what historic preservation uh committees do is they look at all of soft reach and they identify those areas which they think has historical significance, kind of your complex, which that is a part of it. Uh and they bring to you these areas that they think would represent historical aspects of soft reach. [1:50:06, 1:50:26]: And then you adopt the historical plan, and then at that point in time they can go forward with making recommendations in terms of what brands. If they had not been purchased already, if the property had not been purchased already, then it would have been easy to say, hey, because we didn't want that eyesore, we do [1:50:26, 1:50:44]: wanna show his dedication to Miss Carrie Mayhamberry is that then I would say it would be easier to go this way but since it's been approached I would prefer that we get that registry uh what do you want to say please she's not Mayor thank you there's a couple of things it w we're mentioning carrying Mayhambury [1:50:44, 1:51:04]: But and this item number six, not one thing on here, says Carrie May Hambrag. I think um the bringing with Councilman Alexander in regards to going ahead and applying food grant for specific purposes. There's a purpose for marketing, heritage, historic preservations, and anything you do with African American heritage, civil rights. [1:51:04, 1:51:06]: or anything of that nature. [1:51:06, 1:51:16]: they actually get an extra up to ten points on the project. So if they are creative in the sense that they are it's tying into the [1:51:16, 1:51:36]: heritage trail altogether, then I'm for it. Right now Miss Brads is not here to speak on it and I have some questions that in regards to it. I see that the first deadline is in today. Today right that's what I was gonna that's what I was gonna say. I think they had um think Main Street had talked with um [1:51:36, 1:51:56]: the owner of the property and I think that's how they got to be project specific. I I still say though if you back back from this and then do your appointments to the board and then let them do a master plan in terms of school preservation. And then when these deadlines go around, it won't be kind of at the last amendment. [1:51:56, 1:52:16]: Well, if if I may finish on my point on that, we've had boot truck, we've had other events where we've been allowed to receive the money for these funds. They come up revolving every year. Same thing, it's always available. We pay into this, you know, they the the county gets the tourism money, the charge. [1:52:16, 1:52:35]: chamber or however you want to claim it, okay? And there's this pool of funds there. When it comes to marketing, I've reached out to them before. We've had applications. So long as you're advertising outside of your setting limits for people on the outside to come in, then so be it. Whether that was a billboard or something other consideration. [1:52:35, 1:52:36]: I think. [1:52:36, 1:52:42]: that being that Miss Brads is not here and being that this is this is constantly evolving. [1:52:43, 1:52:58]: if we made a motion to approve so long as it's for the entire historical district or main street of Stockbridge, I'm okay with l as long as it's pertaining to it, but not as an individual business. And I I don't wanna lose an opportunity [1:52:58, 1:53:18]: I just think that would be horrible and I'm not going to wait on board that we don't need to appoint right now when we've knocked down most of the historical before our time. I'm not going to wait on that. The only problem with this is grads will be back after the deadline is gone. So who's going to apply? Well, from my understanding, they had already prepared the package based with the author that they had to appreciate. [1:53:18, 1:53:38]: If if if that is the case, then I would not be for I'm only for it pertaining to the entire I I don't want to open open up Pandora's box one one business goes to the next business. We're not doing that. [1:53:38, 1:53:58]: So I I want it to be for the entire city benefit. Due to the deadline, which is I think today or tomorrow, what I recommend based on what I've heard for you is that we not submit this code right now. And that we, because someone would have to write it for tomorrow. It's due tomorrow. [1:53:58, 1:54:18]: I believe that there is another grant cycle later in the year. December thirteenth is part of the grant. Well what's that one second. I was not saying perhaps with but it's a given number. [1:54:18, 1:54:38]: apply for a grant, what a historic area or district, if you will, of the city of Stockbridge during that particular cycle, and be able to provide you with information as it pertains to what particular property, building, or what have you to be identified and vetted for. [1:54:38, 1:54:40]: Uh the grant for me. [1:54:49, 1:55:09]: Yes, sir. Um I just want to weigh in uh being remiss if I did not I I've not been consultant on it, so I'm not sure exactly what the money is gonna be used for, what the project would be used for, but the grant um appears to allow [1:55:09, 1:55:29]: For cities to sponsor uh grant applications where the ultimate recipient is a nonprofit business of business, um a chamber of commerce, you know, a number of different things. So under the way the grant it appears to be written, it would be allowed. Um if we did have to pay uh [1:55:29, 1:55:49]: of a a matching portion. Um it would not be dissimilar from a facade plan where there's both a private benefit in terms of the benefits of that business in terms of upkeeping their their facade, but there's a public benefit because it, you know, if you if all the businesses improve [1:55:49, 1:55:58]: with their facade that you know that that's permitted. And so, you know, you could conceptualize a a a a scenario and again I don't know the particulars. [1:55:58, 1:56:18]: where in exchange for the city's sponsorship of the application of the five thousand that they agree to you know provide specific public benefits, maintaining it for certain hours as a tourist destination and you know maybe having an exhibit there [1:56:18, 1:56:38]: Showing you know its historical significance, and that would be the public benefit. So I'm not asking you to vote yes or no, because I just don't know the particulars, but I don't want that issue to be the issue upon which you denied, because I think you have to fashion it so that it would work. [1:56:38, 1:56:58]: mention that because with the Pasonic Grant you are given it I mean bars are beautiful. They get their money directly. And that is a private business. And that was Pasonic Grant. So if you look at it you're actually talking about a very similar situation. And I think also if I may mention your go ahead. I just wanted to mention one [1:56:58, 1:57:18]: Thing about specificity about what is intended for the property. One would be the historic site marker there. Another would be to install an interpretive sign seven story of the green front cafe as well as this area of the hammer. Also install two banner poles with banners at the location and also produce. [1:57:18, 1:57:38]: It's an informational rat car type brochure, you know, what holds something that holds brochures for people to come by so they can understand the history uh of that particular location um uh Green Park campaign and this carrying heritage as well. So it's not for construction. Oh, it's happy for nobody separately. Okay folks, you're on. [1:57:38, 1:57:58]: Well I'm glad that uh city attorney and uh city manager home then because it gave you know I'm grained on the grain front cap pay issue. Right. But uh that gave me more information that showed me that these type of findings have have happened before. Like I say, even with Hamley Femeral home. [1:57:58, 1:58:15]: uh that that was on the historic registry. So my question is has this happened in any areas that's not is uh was the uh was is the church on historic registry? When you did the five thousand I tried to get that before she left but I don't know who [1:58:16, 1:58:36]: I was reading this in in in line with what you're saying, that when we talk about facade grants and and and beautification of those things that are gonna be pertaining to historic sites and the s and it's right there at the street that says carry made. [1:58:36, 1:58:56]: And if it has historic significance for the neighborhood, then I'm gonna I I'm actually for no case. Haven't heard from our city manager, if it's with the marquees and other things that the city would utilize as we've already done on throughout the trail and and a part of the plan. [1:58:56, 1:59:16]: I'm not objecting to that. That's a part of our tourism. That's a part of it's actually it's property that belongs. We have a marquee out in front of Floyd Chapel. I thought you were stating we were given money for construction rehab purposes. I'm totally, no, this is for based off of the descriptions. These are marquees and other things. [1:59:16, 1:59:30]: things that we m we would place there, I'm not that that's a part of what we're doing when it comes to the walking trail, the MLK, the the whole little thing we have going on. I'm not I'm not in disagreement with that. [1:59:30, 1:59:32]: And and if there was [1:59:32, 1:59:36]: Just so you know, as so long as it is what mister Nighton [1:59:36, 1:59:38]: State the purpose of it was for [1:59:39, 1:59:41]: I'm okay with it if [1:59:41, 1:59:46]: It because it benefits everyone. It's not something that benefits the [1:59:46, 1:59:57]: The the the the specify for now. I mean it's clear what you're making. I'm gonna say I wanna say that. You're not you're not next. Actually Miss Robinson's next. Thank you, Mayor. [2:00:00, 2:00:01]: But listening to all
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    --- title: June 11 2018 City Council Meeting date: 2018-06-11 source: 2018-06-11_June_11_2018_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:11, 0:00:31]: Alright, ladies and gentlemen called the meeting order. I have 603 on my actual phone. It's a little fast over there. And uh what I'd like to do is uh call Reverend Jackie Johnson up to give the invocation. We just actually earlier honored her proclamation on her retirement, and I'd like for her to give, since her day, I want her to give the invocation. [0:00:31, 0:00:35]: for us tonight. Please, Ms. Johnson. [0:00:41, 0:00:42]: Let us pray. [0:00:43, 0:00:45]: Eternal God our Father. [0:00:45, 0:00:54]: We acknowledge your holy presence in our lives at this moment. And God, we thank you for the opportunity of service in this community. [0:00:54, 0:01:02]: And in every aspect of our lives. We ask, O God, that you govern by the power of your Holy Spirit, the business conducted here today. [0:01:02, 0:01:08]: And may you be pleased, O God, with our actions. Be pleased, O God, with everything that we say. [0:01:09, 0:01:14]: And may what we do, O God, honor you. It is in Christ's name we pray. Amen. Amen. [0:01:15, 0:01:21]: Please remind us. [0:01:40, 0:01:42]: Councilman Blount. [0:01:42, 0:01:52]: Present. Councilman Thomas. Present. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Present. Councilman Alexander. Present. Councilwoman Robinson. Present. [0:01:53, 0:02:05]: Mayor Ford, do you have a form? Thank you. Appreciate it, Clark. Council, I need a motion to adopt proceedings agenda, please. So moved. Second. There we go. Any discussion? All in favor, please indicate. [0:02:06, 0:02:07]: Thank you very much. [0:02:08, 0:02:28]: Council, what we have before us approved minutes for the following meetings. April 10th, 2018, April 11th, 2018, April 24th, 2018, and May 14th, 2018. I would assume that you've reviewed those particular minutes. And if that is the case, I need a motion to have them approved. [0:02:28, 0:02:41]: Is there a second? Second. There we go. Any further discussion? All paper is indicated. Okay, thank you very much. Madam Clerk, do we have any public office remote? [0:02:41, 0:02:44]: We do mayor, Mr. Derek Favours. [0:02:44, 0:02:49]: Give us a favors, please come forward sir and name and address. [0:02:51, 0:02:55]: Yeah, specify here. Is it volume? Okay. [0:02:57, 0:03:17]: Um Derek Favors, uh 587, Serene Waters, uh Trail of Jonesboro, Georgia. Uh I live in the city. Um I just want to tell you all thank you for uh the opportunity to come up here and speak. Uh just wanted to kind of bring up an issue that's been an ongoing um incident that's that happened in our association. I'm current. [0:03:17, 0:03:37]: uh HOA president for the Fallen Lords Community Association. Uh we've had a home that's been running a boarding house that's been cited as boarding house. It's also been indicated in uh issues with uh parking ordinance within our area. Uh so we've had um just transients and different people in the area that don't stay there. [0:03:37, 0:03:57]: Sleep in the cars that wanted the neighborhoods late at night at two or three o'clock in the morning. This issue has been ongoing for about two to three years. We brought this up to the code enforcement several times prior to my to my tenure as president, which I've only been serving since uh September. So we want to just be on record to bring this up again. [0:03:57, 0:04:17]: And to let the city know, you know, that we are having this issue and it's been a constant issue and it's worsened over the years. So um, you know, for my uh association people, my neighbors, you know, I want to make sure first that we protect them, we protect their safety, their well-being. We also want to make sure we protect our uh property value within our area. So um that's [0:04:17, 0:04:37]: That's pretty much all I had to bring up to the council's attention. I appreciate that. Thank you. Uh am I assuming this is a legal accident already about this? Yeah, there there is some legalities going on too. From my understanding, it was something that happened today uh with that per with that particular person within our association. So but we keep bringing this up and it's kind of fell on death ears on and off over the years. [0:04:37, 0:04:57]: Um so we're trying to lean definitely on the parking ordinance uh that the city does employ because we do have no parking uh signals on that particular street and we do want to tow. Uh so that's one thing we want to have a leg stand on when we uh when we actually uh address this issue with that resident in the neighborhood. Well noted uh but of my understanding the the speaker matters for all of this is [0:04:57, 0:05:00]: not much we can do right now since it's in the court system. [0:05:00, 0:05:20]: Uh yeah, I I don't know all the particulars on it. Uh I know there has been uh judgment uh left against this person at one point or another, uh, but that person still hasn't adhered to the uh arrangement that was made between them and the city. So it's still ongoing and from my understanding there was some type of uh court hearing that went on today with that particular person and they still haven't adhered to it. [0:05:20, 0:05:30]: Okay, thank you. Appreciate it. Okay, all right. What unless you have something to say or illegally. You have something to say about this? Okay. [0:05:30, 0:05:31]: Thanks for you. [0:05:33, 0:05:35]: Miss Molly Hammer. [0:05:37, 0:05:57]: I was just going to reiterate reiterate the fact that there was court action taken uh late last year uh regarding the matter uh there and also uh today there was some additional court action taken. Um and uh hopefully of course uh it's our hope that this will address the [0:05:57, 0:06:08]: issue and hopefully there will be relief for it and then we obviously will continue to monitor the situation. Okay, thank you sir. Yes ma'am Ms. Molly Hammer. Molly Hammer. Okay. [0:06:09, 0:06:13]: Please come to my handler, the name and and uh address please. [0:06:17, 0:06:37]: Molly Hammer. I live at five um 525 Streamwater Strail, and um I would like to speak um about what Derek just spoke about. Um so the person who bought the house, Boyd's, they bought the house in 2010, and it was in 2013 that I started noticing um different. [0:06:37, 0:06:57]: people moving in and out of the house, living down in the basement was after that hail storm. So the first group of people were actually roofers that were from Texas that were renting rooms from her. And then after that, after the roofing business, you know, all the roofs were fixed, then another group of people came. [0:06:57, 0:07:15]: various groups of people um of all nationalities um uh from my what what she's told me is that she was um renting off of Craigslist and I actually found evidence um last year of um her um [0:07:17, 0:07:37]: of her renting rooms for five hundred dollars apiece on Craigslist and printed it off and sent it over to um Officer Johnson. Um I was actually also subpoenaed um in O November, November second to testify against her um when um she went to court. [0:07:37, 0:07:57]: After court, things got a little bit better. Stopped seeing all the cars parked on the street. There was a flurry of people moving out. Things were better for a while, but they have gotten excessively worse. There a few months ago, walking my dog, there's six cars parked in the street. [0:07:57, 0:08:17]: Four cars in the driveway. People living there. Um just last weekend walking my dog early in the morning, two people sleeping in a car that I took pictures of. Um so yeah, I'm I'm worried for my family and you know I shouldn't have to be worried for my family. We don't know who's coming and who's going. [0:08:17, 0:08:25]: Um two years ago when I was the president of the board, that's when I started contacting um [0:08:26, 0:08:39]: people, Officer Johnson, Code Enforcement. Um I think Mr. Harris was the um city manager back then. Um so we started this process at um [0:08:40, 0:09:00]: back um January twenty seventeen of actually trying to, you know, do something official. Um as president of the board, you know, we've the board spoke to her about parking and um she's just blatantly um disobeying the laws, the covenants. [0:09:00, 0:09:02]: and it's time that it stops. [0:09:04, 0:09:24]: Okay. Thank thank you for comments. We've already made note of the situation. The world's court action going on. I'm pretty sure the police are involved in this as well, this aspect. Okay? Thank you very much. Any other comments? There are no part of the comments. On that note we'll go into a ceremonial portion of the meeting, but uh want to acknowledge the fact that uh the invocation once again was done by Reverend Captain Johnson. We had [0:09:24, 0:09:44]: A proclamation of ceremony murder 40 and uh listen wishing her well on on her uh actual retirement. And uh we also uh had a proclamation uh as a council initiative going to agree with American Heritage Month. Chris Scott and Jackie uh uh Watson were here. I don't know if we're still in the audience, no they're not, it'll seem like and then uh [0:09:44, 0:09:57]: I do have uh another elected official, a fellow uh council member uh from Hampton, um Mr. Earl, uh Mitchell Earl of Hampton. There you go. So we got our council member. [0:09:58, 0:10:01]: [611.5, 631.5]: Okay, so we have a couple proclamations uh to read. And the first one up is dealing with um I don't know, is this this actually working here? I mean it's low, but it's on. It's on, yes it is. Deals with the Alzheimer's, and that's one of the reasons why I'm wearing purple. So uh anybody here uh the Alzheimer's please [0:10:31, 0:10:32]: Please come forward. [0:10:42, 0:10:50]: I'll I'll read the proclamation and then I'm going to give you the proclamation and give you the mic to have any comments that you may have. Come on down. [0:10:50, 0:10:50]: Yeah. [0:10:51, 0:10:52]: Okay. [0:10:52, 0:11:12]: I have to oh I forgot what's your name, I'm sorry? Elizabeth Bradley. Miss Bradley? Debbie Watkins. Debbie Watkins. Kevin Bradley. My assumed husband and wife? That's Bradley. Okay, all right, good deal. This is a proclamation in reference to Alzheimer's. Whereas Alzheimer's disease is a progressive brain disease that slowly deteriorates the brain cells affecting one's reasoning skills and building [0:11:12, 0:11:32]: Perform simple tasks, ultimately leading to memory loss. Whereas Alzheimer's disease, which currently has no cure, is the sixth leading cause of death in adults aged 18 or older in the United States. Whereas with no currently defined definitive interventions to prevent Alzheimer's disease, essential public health services [0:11:32, 0:11:52]: Of early detention, detection, excuse me, risk reduction and surveillance are necessary to protect and improve the health of our citizens. Whereas during the month of June, citizens across Georgia take part in the longest day to raise awareness and support research and care for Alzheimer's patients. Whereas further research of Alzheimer's disease is critical. [0:11:52, 0:12:12]: As it is the only cause of death among the top ten causes in the United States that currently cannot be prevented, cured, or even slowed. Whereas nearly 50% of individuals with increased memory problems reported they had not discussed their symptoms with the health care provider yet, early and documented diagnosis when [0:12:12, 0:12:32]: coupled with access to care planning and services leads to better outcomes for individuals with Alzheimer's disease as well as their caregivers. Whereas caregivers and family members are crucial in maintaining a healthy quality of life for those battling Alzheimer's disease. And now therefore I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority lesson to me, as mayor of the city of Stockbridge. [0:12:32, 0:12:52]: Georgia and on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, John Blount, Lakeesha Jack, Meet Robinson, and Afonso Thomas to hereby recognize June 2018 as Alzheimer's and Brain Awareness Month in the Stockbridge, Georgia. And we call this observation to the attention of all citizens. And witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand. [0:12:52, 0:13:03]: hand and the great seal of uh city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the 11th day of June in the year of our Lord 2018. And I signed this along with our city clerk Vanessa Holliday. Thank you so [0:13:11, 0:13:31]: I don't know what to say. Anything you like. Um thank you guys so much for the recognition. We really appreciate it. Um this is the first year that our walk will be an official walk. Um we will no longer be a team out of Atlanta. So um we're very excited about that. The walk will take place September twenty ninth at Alexander Park. [0:13:30, 0:13:43]: um off of Jonesboro Road. And registration begins at 8 and you can register by going to Georgiawalk.org and finding Henry County and clicking on it from there. [0:13:43, 0:13:53]: Thank you, appreciate it. Um we're gonna take a picture with the entire council right back here if you don't mind. Okay, thank you. Thank you. You can go you can go this way? [0:13:53, 0:14:00]: Oh we think that's in a little bit. [0:14:20, 0:14:21]: Yeah. Okay. [0:14:23, 0:14:32]: Can slip gentlemen, you just slip in there. Ladies, just come on down. Can we get everybody? I don't mind. [0:14:37, 0:14:40]: [909.4, 910.0]: Thank you. [0:15:12, 0:15:32]: Now I have to admit, proclamations are always cool to really speak about and give and honor those special folks of the organizations. But this one tonight, in reference to uh another Stockbridge citizen, has done so well in the music industry, and I'm just and I didn't get a chance to meet Mr. Childers earlier this evening because I was up here, so I'll get a chance to meet him now. [0:15:32, 0:15:34]: Mr. Ross Childers, please, could you come forward? There he is. [0:15:46, 0:16:06]: Now I will tell you, you have your family here. I'm gonna read this and I'm gonna eventually give you the mic, okay? But if you want your family up here with you as well, have that? Come on. There's a lot, so we'll just do it? Okay. All of this we're good. Whereas Ross Childress hails from Stockbridge, Georgia, and is co-founder member of the band Collective Soul. And whereas Ross Childress [0:16:06, 0:16:15]: attended Stockbridge High School and was influenced by the Beatles, Prince, and The Cure, and whereas Ross Childress was inducted in the Georgia Music Hall of Fame in 2009. [0:16:15, 0:16:31]: Whereas Ross Childress is the platinum rocker played lead guitar and some of the biggest songs of his era. The group's le uh hook laden guitar anthems and powerfully me melodic songs led to them to have seven number one radio hits. Seven number one radio hits. Okay. [0:16:36, 0:16:39]: The nineteen top forty singles. [0:16:39, 0:16:40]: Yeah. [0:16:44, 0:17:04]: Whereas Ross Trildes was a lead guitarist for Collective Soul and his indebted guitar uh guitar work uh was heard by millions of fans from around the globe. From nineteen ninety-four to two thousand one, Collective Soul received more airtime than on the radio than any other band in its era, including Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarten, R. [0:17:04, 0:17:06]: RNA and Oasis. That's outstanding. [0:17:13, 0:17:33]: Ross currently currently resides in Henry County and enjoys working with children groups such as the Children's Health Care of Atlanta and is currently writing music and movie scores and commercials and loves doing it. Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtue of authority vested in me as mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, John Blount, Lakeisha Gantt, Need Robin. [0:17:33, 0:17:45]: And Father Thomas do hereby recognize Ross Childress, co-founding member of Collective Soul from Stockbridge, Georgia, and invites everyone to come out to his performance of the Sound of the Summer concert Saturday, June 16th. [0:17:50, 0:18:10]: Oh yes, absolutely. Okay, I'll stand it. And whereas thereof, uh I here I'm to set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia on the eleventh day of June of the year of our Lord two thousand and eighteen, and I signed this uh proclamation along with City Clerk Vinnes Hall. All right. [0:18:17, 0:18:37]: See the Stock Ridge thing you guys are awesome. This is really cool. So yeah, I'm looking forward to um Saturday. The sounds of summer kicking it off and uh it'll be a a good time. But yeah, honestly though, I remember when the first red light came in, which was like right over here. The first red light stock bridge and then the bridge when the bridge happened. Stockbridge never was the same as the bridge. [0:18:37, 0:18:37]: Ha ha ha. [0:18:40, 0:18:41]: Well it's around scared. [0:19:01, 0:19:05]: [1155.0, 1155.9]: Yeah. [0:19:22, 0:19:23]: Over here. [0:19:23, 0:19:24]: Mm. Oh. [0:19:25, 0:19:26]: Don't you know? [0:19:28, 0:19:31]: Sorry. [0:19:34, 0:19:37]: Yeah. [0:19:55, 0:20:05]: All right, uh we'll move on to business. [0:20:06, 0:20:13]: Council considerations to postpone the rest of the airborne agreement until further notice. Mr. Mike Williams, sir, please. [0:20:14, 0:20:20]: Good evening. Now I can say that I had a major rock star open for me to start [0:20:25, 0:20:45]: Merit Council, you have before you a resolution um that's really housekeeping. You all have already discussed this before, but this kind of evidence it evidences it in writing. Um this is uh calling on the postponement of further consideration of the Western Parallel Glaimon until we have more. [0:20:45, 0:21:05]: information come before us regarding its location and uh so from that perspective we would ask that it be approved by the very council okay um this core please we would then postpone um whole business item number seven for council consideration of the listing limit approved [0:21:04, 0:21:20]: Sorry. Uh Mr. Mayor, just to be clear, I uh approval of the resolution is what we're asking the motion to be because the the resolution itself postpones a consideration. [0:21:20, 0:21:40]: Mayor, I I'd like to restate my motion. I would like to approve the resolution postponing the West Carol agreement. All right. So there are second okay now discuss it please. Council discuss it. So one point of clarification. This was just a lighting. [0:21:40, 0:22:00]: We need to change the motion for that. Alright, there's no further discussion. All in favor of the motion, please indicate? All opposed? You sustain? Okay, so we got uh one sustain. Okay. [0:21:59, 0:22:19]: Council consideration to approve the vehicle use policy. Mr. Wins, please. Um this is the uh draft policy that had been discussed uh a number of times, but yet the final or perhaps the final version uh in front of you. Um it just sets forth a number of conditions uh under which city cables are to be used. [0:22:19, 0:22:39]: I'm going to summarize some of the major points. First, we have had in place a take-home vehicle policy, and so this replaces that with sort of a streamlined policy. [0:22:39, 0:22:59]: And it also provides for replication of of take home vehicles if necessary. Um it goes on to provide that city vehicles are to be uh used um primarily for city business. Um it lays out prohibited uses and these are some of the obvious things, obviously alcohol. [0:22:59, 0:23:19]: The use of tobacco is prohibited in vehicles, no transportation of pitchhikers, et cetera. And then with respect to passengers, it it goes back to the uh and and encompasses the waiver provisions that you all previously adopted and provides that it [0:23:19, 0:23:39]: non employees are e are transported they have to sign the waiver. Um and uh then it provides that if if any city vehicle um is operated and the driver receives a citation that the driver is responsible for paying that citation in the city [0:23:39, 0:23:59]: And then it has a procedure for disqualifying drivers for whatever reason. And these are to protect the city and just to make sure that they're only allowing responsible drivers to use city vehicles. And then it it has a [0:23:59, 0:24:19]: A set of procedures for if vehicles are involved in an accident. So those are the major things. And then what this does is it kind of brings into one policy all the uh the procedures that we had in place. We had them in three different places before, and this kind of puts them all. [0:24:19, 0:24:39]: to one policy. And so uh unless you have questions or want to make some adjustments, I would recommend this for approval. Um city attorney, um I guess I just want to be all right [0:24:39, 0:24:59]: Record for my concerns. I mean, I know you did this policy, but at the same time you're still holding on to this waiver. Um, so that this waiver is still intended that you can have someone in the vehicle spouse as long as they're signing a waiver. Um, I just want the citizens to know that I'm still [0:24:59, 0:25:19]: Against that, um, you're in a government vehicle, and if you're gonna be in a government vehicle, then you should not have a spouse or anyone in the city vehicle. You should not. And I'm strictly against that, but again you have stated that the waiver still stands, and that was the back and forth from [0:25:19, 0:25:39]: The previous because when we go out of town, we're going to be using different vehicles. Because that way, if you design a waiver for your spouse, that could be three or four vehicles or four or five vehicles traveling down the road when you can limit that to two vehicles. Because council members can ride together or if they want to. [0:25:39, 0:25:59]: Protect their spouse, they should drive their own personal vehicles. But again, um, there was an incident, and now we're bringing it to the forefront to let it be to where we were making it okay. Um, so again, I just want to go on record that I'm against any elected official or anybody employed with the city. [0:25:59, 0:26:18]: having their spouses even with a waiver in a city that should not take place at all. So I just want that for the record. Yes correct is yeah I'm moving to approve the uh vehicle users policy presented by Mike Wickers. Is there a second? A second. Okay, is there further discussion? [0:26:20, 0:26:40]: No further discussion? Okay. All in favor of the resolution, please indicate. All opposed? Okay, sweet two. Pass. Now this is the resolution not ordinance. Yes, sir. Okay. Alright, so did it. It passes. The uh sorry. No, that's uh that just one clarification. Council [0:26:40, 0:26:45]: consideration is Kansas City's Trump moratorium. Moratorium is headed by Mr. Williams. [0:26:45, 0:27:05]: A number of months ago, you all adopted a moratorium on the establishment of any new truck-related businesses in the city. That moratorium is set to expire in a few weeks, if I recall correctly. And we're asking you to extend it further establishment. [0:27:05, 0:27:25]: is is going to be presenting an actual revision to the ordinance that makes it clear um where any kind of truck related businesses are permitted in the city. And no we adopted the highway overlay and have some provisions there, but we want to clarify certain sections of the ordinance. So we'd like for you to extend them more toward [0:27:24, 0:27:44]: We can bring that back. All right, Council. Yes, ma'am. Mayor Ford, I move that we um approve the extension of the city's truck moratorium. Okay, is there a second? Is there a second? A second. There we go. Second there? Any further discussion? Yes. Go right ahead, please. I I share a lot of the citizens' concern. [0:27:44, 0:28:04]: About trucking related facilities in the community. And I actually was one of the sponsor of the highway overlay bill to be passed here in the city of Stockbridge. The city currently has a prohibition on all major highways in the city related. [0:28:04, 0:28:24]: Related to trucking related facilities and trucking related businesses on all major highways. As someone who, with all transparency, was in the trucking business myself for numerous years. These trucks need somewhere to park. And we as a council we don't want [0:28:24, 0:28:44]: them parking on our main street. We don't want them to park in terms of in residential areas. Because right now that's what they're doing. They're parking in residential areas and subdivisions. You go to Walmart, they have parking there, you go to Kroger, they're parking there. These trucks are already in our community parking everywhere. [0:28:44, 0:29:04]: What we need to do is we need to come up with a plan where it is acceptable to us to allow them legal parking within the city or they will continue to park illegally. Numerous times I've come down Rock Corridor Road where a tractor was pulled over to the side and notified the police that they were pulled over. [0:29:04, 0:29:24]: To decide waiting on somebody just to run them under that truck. We just need to make sure that whatever we do, there is a path, legal path to legal parking uh for these trucks to operate. They are the commerce uh in our community, and we want to make sure that whatever we do uh [0:29:24, 0:29:44]: is fully uh legal and embraced by safety experts, not necessarily hysteria concerning the trucks. And you know, sometimes I find out that these issues, the trucks are being used as scapegoats for the fact that we have two-lane highways and the highways aren't being maintained. It is not all the trucks. It is the [0:29:44, 0:30:04]: Failure of leadership in this county and in the city and a lot of these instances to maintain and to properly plan for infrastructure in these particular areas. I would like to ask a question of staff. When is this going to be presented? We have had uh well, this is this has been working. [0:30:04, 0:30:14]: worked on for quite some time now, including uh when we uh were going to actually enforce the residential parking uh in subdivision. [0:30:15, 0:30:35]: Mayor, member of the council, as you know, we're doing our comprehensive plan and a number of issues have come before us concerning transportation. And so we're putting this on hold until we look at the rating of our roads and our highways as we go through with our land use to determine where these type of users should be located as it relates to the transportation network. [0:30:34, 0:30:54]: To make sure that how these trucks roll out and get to the expressway, that there's a close proximity to keep them off of the two lane roads. And that is a part of our comprehensive plan, as you know. So just wanted to and that's due to DCA in August. In August to DCA. And then we will expect implementation to be what what [0:30:54, 0:31:10]: Well DCA is not going to approve it till the end of the year because it may come back with comments. Uh they will make some decision around November, December, and then by uh January of 2019 we should have a sign-off by DCA to implement that plan. [0:31:11, 0:31:21]: Okay, any further questions? Council? Okay. That's uh further questions, we have a motion of four. All in favor of the motion, please indicate? [0:31:22, 0:31:30]: All polls. Sustain your polls. Okay, full one. Oh okay. All right. [0:31:32, 0:31:49]: New business, council consideration to amend Title IX, Section 9.12 of Stop Raising Missal Code by hereby deleting and replacing Section 9.12 in its entirety as it pertains to solicitation, permit, and process. Mr. Williams, please. [0:31:50, 0:32:10]: Mr. Mayor and Council, again this is probably more housekeeping than otherwise. Um our current ordinance provides that those um applications go to the city clerk and this changes it so that they go to the administrative and community services department for processing. That's essentially all this does. [0:32:10, 0:32:21]: Okay. Alright. Yes sir. Yes sir. I'll move the way be um taken into consideration. Is there a second? Is there a second? [0:32:22, 0:32:24]: I I'm sorry to take it. [0:32:25, 0:32:45]: No, he didn't say different. He didn't just sit down. This my Mr. Question will do that. My motion is you you you want the vote to be moved. Yeah, I want to approve it. We're just moving it over. Uh council, I I move that we approve this item nine section nine point one two of this code. Okay. You said that okay. [0:32:44, 0:33:04]: Any further discussion? Yes. Go right ahead, please. Now, while we have this issue before us, uh, we have an issue with panhandling in the city, we have an issue with uh you know aggressive panhandling and folks who are basically conning people. Uh we have uh people using children out there at different uh shopping. [0:33:04, 0:33:24]: Centers and areas. Why can't we deal with that in some form or fashion as we're discussing this? Because this is an ever-present thing that we see in the community and citizens are really concerned about. I can't go over the Hudson Bridge without somebody standing in the right-of-way. [0:33:24, 0:33:44]: collective change and then you see them drive off in a nice new car and they're standing there collecting change and citizens are kind of kind of kind of fed up with that and uh you know at this point I'm not really sure whether uh those are whether co-enforcement is enforcing that or the police are enforcing it at this time [0:33:44, 0:34:04]: Time because as uh we've had this issue come before us numerous times, and we want to put the best representation of our city out there, and we need some something done. It's a law enforcement issue, it's not a code enforcement issue. Okay. So what are we able to do uh to with Henry County police? [0:34:04, 0:34:24]: at this time. Are they have we have talked to them? Are they even enforcing it at this point with what we are or is it even being enforced at all? Or what do we need? Do we need to get code enforcement involved because of the situation with the local ordinances or are they enforcing it? It code enforcement by state statute and your [0:34:24, 0:34:44]: By law can only do certain things because they're not law enforcement. It is a law enforcement issue. So it would have to be some arrangement between the city of Stockbridge and every county police. [0:34:44, 0:35:04]: What can we do legally uh to work something out where we have somebody in the city or some agency? Well, I don't know if we need to hire outside agency or what to be able to uh deal with this uh uh in in particular. Is there is there anything we can do in the city? Let me let me sign it here. Uh do the [0:35:04, 0:35:24]: SBS type of agreement. Is this something that Mr. Bag is going to work with with the county or as we work with the police department or anything like that? Something we can do? I don't think I I don't think it's a it's a liberty issue. Okay. It's a matter of perhaps having some conversations with the police department about concerns that have been expressed and raised. I'll be glad glad to do that with Captain War. [0:35:24, 0:35:44]: I think what this ordinance is trying to do is trying to address some of these issues and bring some regulatory aspects to some of the things that take place that would take place legally, hopefully that will drive people from engaging in illegal activities. And I think that's what this is intended to do. Okay, great. Any other comments from the council? Yes. [0:35:44, 0:36:04]: You know, uh we all can sit back and shake our heads at this issue, but we do have a problem. Not only in this in Henry County, but we have a problem around this country when it comes to homeless people. Um I've dealt with a lot of homeless people around here. They don't jump in the fancy car, they jump back in the woods and go to sleep. And so when we sit back, [0:36:04, 0:36:24]: And we have organizations that we sit here, we even give proclamations to. We can go talk to I don't wait on other people to solve my problems in my community. I go to the source. I go to these homeless people. I tell them about the resources that they can deal with. I fed the homeless in this community. We can't sit back and continue to see a see a situation and wait. [0:36:24, 0:36:44]: We don't somebody else to resolve it, but we can start resolving ourselves. Can you have comments from the council? Yes. Correct, please. Um so Mr. Knight, the city manager, you said you will be able to have a conversation with our police captain, correct? Absolutely, yes. So having steps to communicate, that's the main key. Sure. [0:36:44, 0:36:52]: Thank you. Any other comments from the council? If not, there's a motion on the floor. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:36:54, 0:36:56]: All polls? [0:36:57, 0:37:15]: Okay, excuse me. I miscounted. All right, good deal. Thank you. Thank you. Ambassador Nelson. Council consideration to amend chapter 9.101 of the stockbridge municipal code by hereby amending and adding a new section. [0:37:15, 0:37:35]: Nine point zero one point two six zero to provide for single veterans engaging operating businesses and practicing professions in small police. Yes, uh mayor and council, what staff brings before you tonight is an ordinance that just brings stock rice in compliance with the state law so that when people come in to stock race who are veterans that want [0:37:35, 0:37:55]: An exemption on the business license. They know that it's consistent if they go to Hampton, if they go to Jonesburg, wherever they go, that the state laws are in this and that they understand that the rules apply across the board. So that's all that this always does. Okay. Any questions at all from this floor? [0:37:54, 0:38:12]: So okay, is there a second? I second. Here we go. Any further discussion? All things please indicate? Okay, it's unanimous. Appreciate it, thank you. Council consideration to approve selection of the C's Health and Wellness Insurance Policy. Staff recommendation, Sigma health care. Ms. Wheeler, please. [0:38:25, 0:38:38]: Mayor Council, how are y'all tonight? Just fine, but still. Doing well, thank you. I believe in your packets you have the executive summary. Yes. Maybe you all had time to read that. So what I'm gonna do is just do a PowerPoint. [0:38:38, 0:38:40]: Summary of my summary. So [0:38:41, 0:39:01]: And and I think Ellen, this is only going to take about forty, forty-five minutes, so we got plenty of time. Um sorry. This is our time of year which we go up for renewal for our medical or health benefits. Uh Mr. Wendell Strickland is our insurance program, so he's the one that goes out and and uh assesses the market. [0:39:01, 0:39:21]: To try to give us the best possible price and plan for our insurance premiums. He's going to give you a short presentation on what we've what he's gone through to get us to this point and hopefully your approval on the health planation. And thank you so much. You have great staff. We've been working together for many years now. [0:39:21, 0:39:41]: We work really hard to kind of uh look at the options this year. Um so um like I said in your uh packets you have the executive summary. Um so strong size solutions is a healthcare consultant. We specialize in cities and counties in helping you all maintain good benefits, make sure that you uh do the fiduciary responsibilities and bid things out, and that you provide uh good. [0:39:41, 0:40:01]: quality health care as low as possible possible to your employees. We went and marketed this year and everything we were doing is going to take effect July 1, 2018. That's when your renewal is. And our markets this year we went out to um all the appropriate you have fully insured carriers, you have level funded carriers, you have captive self-funded [0:40:01, 0:40:12]: stop loss markets and third party administration. So we went out to a myriad this year to make sure that we check not only your fully insured marketplace, but all the other types of alternate funding and insurance products. [0:40:13, 0:40:33]: Uh this year uh the City of Stockers had 137% utilization. That means for every dollar that you gave Cygna, they paid out a dollar thirty-seven. So you have what we call a high claims year. So um your premiums of$775,000, I think Cigna actually paid out like a million sixty-two. So uh you're running what we call hot, so uh being able to look at other carriers to take that risk at a low. [0:40:33, 0:40:53]: Lower rate didn't result in any competitive carrier. So we have a couple of ongoing large claimants over$25,000 and several prescription drug claims to kind of make that go higher throughout the year. So the original renewal was 30.4%, which was an increase of$232,000. We were able to get that down to$13.1%. [0:40:53, 0:40:56]: one uh or a hundred and one thousand dollars an increase. [0:40:58, 0:41:18]: Um the carriers that we went out to um neither the fully insured carriers, the level funding carriers, the um uh captive markets and the self-funded carriers provided a lower lower cost alternative. As a matter of fact, most of them came in in the 40 to 50 percent increase. So um I think taking the uh 30 percent increase from [0:41:18, 0:41:38]: Signa and bringing it down to 13.1 was a real uh achievement this year, considering the ongoing claims and the liability that the city has as far as claims, liability, and risk. So if you look at this page here, this is your um your benefit plan dynamic. We were able to get the 13.1% increase with keeping your exact same plan. [0:41:37, 0:41:57]: We thought that was really important for employees this year since there's a lot of change going on is to not have either increased deductibles or increased costs or increased co-pays. So we're able to do that by maintaining those current um uh plans. And then uh this is this is the resulting uh uh uh premiums or tier increases uh [0:41:57, 0:42:00]: uh from last year compared to to this year. [0:42:02, 0:42:22]: We also have a lower deductible to your employees, and the city takes on the second portion of their deductible. That way that the deductibles to your employees is kept lower, right? So it's called a split deductible or a health reimbursement arrangement. So we have that this past three years and it looks something like this. So you actually have a$2,500 deductible. [0:42:22, 0:42:42]: For an employee, but your employees only pay$500 of that, and the city pays a second$2,000. So even though there's a higher deductible in the plan, the employees' responsibility is really low. And compared to other cities and counties in the area, only having$500 as a deductible annually for a medical insurance plan is very, very rich. So it should be really good for you in the city to [0:42:42, 0:42:45]: to be able to track and retain good employees. [0:42:46, 0:43:06]: So if you look at a summary, medical is 13.1, dental, we got it down to two, uh, vision zero, basic life zero, voluntary um life zero, short-term disability zero, and long-term disability zero. And we've been able to get this zero increase on uh vision, uh basic life, voluntary life now for almost five years. So I think that's a great track. [0:43:06, 0:43:07]: Recording. [0:43:08, 0:43:28]: So all that wrapped up in a recommendation that would be for the 2018-19 plan year would be to renew with Cigna, to maintain your current health reimbursement arrangement or your split deductible, maintain your prescription drug programs, renew with human for dental, renew with IMED provision, renew with mutual Omaha for basic light volunteer life. [0:43:28, 0:43:35]: life and short-term disability, maintain your wellness program and keep the payroll deductions the same as what we the staff and I had had talked about. [0:43:37, 0:43:57]: Okay, thank you. Uh any questions for Mr. Spritler? Sir. I will just say as one of the people who have used the service and are currently using it, you have done well. Well thank you. [0:43:57, 0:44:17]: No additional funding at this point and uh been able to maintain um a level playing field from last year with all the increases in health care costs. This is outstanding and this is just want to make sure that I'm summarizing what you just told us pretty much is that our employees uh this year would not be facing any additional [0:44:17, 0:44:30]: cost and then we'll be looking at same the same baseline numbers as they were looking at last. That's right, same exact medical plan, no increased cost and premiums, and the same deductibles, co-pays, and co-insurance, correct? [0:44:30, 0:44:39]: Uh I make a motion to move forward with this because I don't think we can do any better than that. That's outstanding. Sir Second. Thank you. All right, great. Any further discussion? [0:44:40, 0:45:00]: All right, all three remote please indicate? Yes, but on the record and and I just want to make clear, yes, there will be no impact to um employees. It would be the same covers that's been in place before. There will be a slight increase, though overall budgetarily, uh to the city. I just want to make that clarification. [0:44:59, 0:45:08]: Okay. And our recommendation is is that this should be. Okay. Let me let me ask you let me ask for motion on the four to say. All favorite motion please indicate? [0:45:09, 0:45:12]: Thank you. Okay. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. You're welcome. [0:45:15, 0:45:29]: Council consideration to approve, amend the city established personal policy to reflect Georgia State Law House Bill 673, hands-free cell phone policy, effective 1 July 2018. Ms. Wheeler, please. [0:45:48, 0:46:08]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Evening. We have a new policy that we're putting uh we've put together due to the new state law that is going to affect House Bill 673, which was passed by the House and Senate and goes into effect July 1st of 2018. [0:46:08, 0:46:26]: regarding the hands-free cell phone policy. So we have drafted a policy for you to approve that will go into effect July 1st and all employees in reference to what will be required as far as the hands-free cell phone policy. [0:46:28, 0:46:41]: We have the slide for that for this. I don't have a slide, it should be in your handbook. Okay. I'm just saying for your email says it's not so good. I don't have a is there a motion to accept this? [0:46:42, 0:46:45]: Questions. Have you had a chance to read it? [0:46:50, 0:46:55]: Well, right. I don't know why we would have the policy, but since we have it, I make a motion to [0:46:55, 0:47:15]: Who said the number? Who did the second second okay? Any any further discussion? Yes. Go right ask. I I obviously we definitely want to follow the law. I just have a question for staff to make sure that we're doing everything that we can do to be totally in compliance. So we have a older vehicle out there. [0:47:15, 0:47:35]: That's not equipped with hands-free service. Are we equipping these vehicles? Are we making are we retroing them? What are we doing to make sure that that old public works truck or whatever they gotta follow in there with them? What are we doing with that? Well, most of the public works trucks have been replaced to newer vehicles. The Navarre. [0:47:35, 0:47:55]: been outfitted for the uh for this. The only two trucks that I know of that we are uh going to work with are these code enforcement um trucks and getting them a a device where they can put their work cell phones in and make it hands-free. [0:47:55, 0:48:02]: Okay, so at this point we're saying that pretty much that's the majority of the vehicles are already. Right. [0:48:04, 0:48:24]: And for the questions under the council. Yeah, that's it. Go right ahead. This didn't outlaw Bluetooth and earpieces. This is this I mean if you still put on the earpiece, that's hand free. I mean it didn't have to necessarily come out to be a just didn't want people holding holding. Right, holding the phone up and and and [0:48:24, 0:48:44]: uh and driving but we've had some instances where employees are driving in their vehicles and they have their phone up to the air up to their ear. I mean I've seen it and stuff so since it's actually the law now for everyone we need to make sure that our employees are held accountable also. It's in the employee handbook also registration. [0:48:44, 0:49:04]: I would also encourage all employees to actually to read in depth the state code, the state law, because if I'm not mistaken, it even refers to passengers that may be uh on their phone. [0:49:04, 0:49:13]: Well, so I would just encourage everyone to actually read the state law in depth. Okay. Any further comments from council? [0:49:13, 0:49:17]: Okay, if not so, then I'll tell you what most of the cable. [0:49:18, 0:49:38]: Okay. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Ms. Will. Number eight project assign assigned an agreement to construct the amphitheater. Mr. Maggie, please. Yes, uh Mayor and Council, uh since there are uh [0:49:38, 0:49:58]: potential land acquisition, property acquisition issues related to this item. I would request that we um enter into executive session to uh discuss it further. Okay. Mayor? Yes sir. We move to the consideration uh move this uh item to uh uh to executive session to [0:49:58, 0:50:16]: Fine, fine. Second? Any further discussion? All favor please? Okay, we'll have a second session and come back on because uh make it known what we've discussed, what we can't discuss in the moment. On that note, uh we'll go over to comments. Uh city manager, do you have any comments right now? No. [0:50:17, 0:50:37]: Um just that we've got a lot going on here at the City Stockbridge and certainly encourage everyone to come out to the town hall meeting uh tomorrow evening at seven o'clock PM at the Merrill Manders Center. Of course we have Tasted Tuesday as well tomorrow evening um uh over at Clark Park. Um and so we encourage people to uh come out and uh [0:50:37, 0:50:40]: um uh take part in the town hall tomorrow. [0:50:42, 0:51:02]: Okay, uh City Clerk. Uh yes, Mayor, my comment would be to notify the public that there is no voting or uh the early voting for the uh run-up elections here in Stockbridge, you do have to go to the city of McDonough um to vote. We won't have it here in Stockbridge. Am I to assume that that's the case? [0:51:02, 0:51:22]: We will do so. Apparently they just voted for this last Thursday or Friday. The elections board did, so we will be putting something out on our website. But I just wanted people to know that there's no voting here in Stockholm. Clarification. [0:51:21, 0:51:41]: At uh the regular principles that we're going to do. Yes, there's just no early voting. Right. Thank you. Okay. Mr. Tuller, sir. Uh I just want to take this opportunity to thank all those that participated in the Don't Trash Stock Bridge Initiative, uh, all the departments. Also, I want to take this opportunity just to mention to [0:51:41, 0:52:01]: All of the citizens, I'm going to commend the staff for their due diligence in crisscrossing the city with the comp plan because I think we have to continue to show our citizens, irregardless of the challenges that we're facing, that we are moving forward to providing [0:52:01, 0:52:21]: The highest level of services that we can, and that we're all still about comprehensively uh moving this city forward. So I just want to commend Mrs. Moore and her staff and others for uh crisscrossing uh the city with with the cup plan and the uh other uh [0:52:21, 0:52:41]: uh contractors that we have hired to actually do this. Thank you. Mr. Blum, please. Yeah, I just want to say uh that as elected officials that we're here to serve and I know that this council is working together to do the the best we can for the city of Stockbridge. And that's what [0:52:41, 0:52:48]: that we're here to to do it serve the uh to serve the citizens. Um one of the things that uh [0:52:49, 0:52:52]: One of the things that's troubling to me when those things are challenged. [0:52:54, 0:52:55]: in our community. [0:52:56, 0:53:16]: And we're not standing up for those things that are challenging to our community as a whole. Uh I I would ask that each citizen would look at what's actually going on with our city with our city right now with uh the proposed city of League's landing and get the information to make a sound decision on uh pertaining to this uh issue. Um [0:53:16, 0:53:36]: Um this council right now, right here today, we're here to serve the citizens of Stockbridge. We want to continue to serve you all in the best of our abilities. And uh one of the things I also want to mention that on July twenty-eighth, and I'll mention it now because we are taking uh donations and uh in kind donations, uh [0:53:36, 0:53:56]: uh we're having a big uh back school kickoff on july twenty eighth from 10 to 1. And so anybody want to serve community get involved in that, definitely call the city and talk to uh our Zero assistant Laquinda Jackson and uh we'll love to have you on board. No condo [0:53:56, 0:54:16]: Council Mazan. Yes, uh thank you so much. I'd like to always uh thank the citizens for tuning in and to for being engaged in the community. Uh we have uh a lot of things uh going on in the city that uh need uh every one of you and everybody to be committed to [0:54:16, 0:54:36]: to to moving the city forward. We uh earlier today we recognize the Caribbean American Community and Heritage Month. We recognize Jackie Watson and we recognize Chris Smith. The two organizations are instrumental in what the Caribbean American community does. [0:54:36, 0:54:56]: uh here at Shock Ridge. Um hopefully next year we'll be able to have a full proclamation uh from the city, but I thought it was extremely important for us to move forward recognizing the contributions of that particular community because they always they do a lot and uh we we want to show to continue that push [0:54:56, 0:55:16]: of diversity is more than just words. It is inclusiveness. It is in policy. I also want to say I'm a resident of the Eagles Landing area of Stockbridge. You know, one of the things that I hear come back from the community a lot of times is, you know, why do we love call it the Eagles Landing community? [0:55:16, 0:55:36]: And when you're in Buckethead and you're in the city of Ona, no one complains about the fact that they call it Buckhead. It is just Buckhead. They celebrate the successes of that particular area and they allow it to be its own distinct characteristics. Both different areas of the city do. There's no ill. [0:55:36, 0:55:56]: will or anything cost me allow this area to be identified as that. Honestly in all transparency, for the first three years that I lived in my location with a McDonald's address, I had no idea that I lived in the city of Stockbridge until I went to get my business license. When I went to get my business license, I went to Heron County and they told me, uh [0:55:56, 0:56:16]: You're gonna run a place and you go down to the city of McDonald. And many of my neighbors are in that same position where they're actually clueless that they live in the city of Stockbridge. And um I I I heard a lot of talk. There are three groups, there are two groups. Uh one of the groups is uh you know the city of Stockbridge, the second group [0:56:16, 0:56:36]: uh the Eagles Valley Educational Research Committee. But there's a third group. That third group is the solid majority which represents the people who live in that particular area who have a vote. Those particular people who live in that area, they love the city too. But they do want to see some improvements. And that's nothing [0:56:36, 0:56:56]: Wrong with wanting better for your city. You know, when I ran for office, I wanted to see that. I wanted to see North Hillary Boulevard improved. I think we could have got more there, and I want to continue to work on these particular projects. I think we can have the city be proud of itself, be well, and do, and to also address the wants and needs. [0:56:56, 0:57:16]: Of every area of the city and listen. And that's what I do when I'm out there discussing the boat that is coming up to try to listen and to garner all of the facts and to make sure that each individual that I speak with that I hear them out 100% fully and whether they support the city or whether they support the city. [0:57:16, 0:57:36]: support uh the the the uh Eagles Landing group, I want to understand why it is that you feel that way. And some of the things that we understood was during 2016 I ran for office, those things are what I try to work on every single day. And I want us to continue to work on those items to move the city forward and I think we can do that. [0:57:36, 0:57:56]: Ms. Robinson, please. Thank you, Mayor. Um our youth council is doing outstanding. We just came off a two-day retreat here at Ted Strickland. I just want to thank staff because we had staff that stepped in and just volunteered and supported whatever they could. And also to our city manager, the mayor. [0:57:55, 0:58:15]: And my counsel and my attorney, thank you so very much, especially to our attorney. He actually went through the Robert Roberts Rule of Order to our young people so that way they can equip them for leadership, communication, and team building that we need here in our community. We're building leaders, so we want to [0:58:15, 0:58:35]: students to remain in their city. They are implicit about the proposed city, so they had a lot of questions. They were asking what they can do. So our attorney was there to allow, you know, speaking to them, telling what they can and cannot do. So it's a matter of showing them, leading our young people in the right direction. So please [0:58:35, 0:58:55]: Please, I just want to say to everyone, we're here to serve you, but I wish you would please get involved, be engaged with this council, because you need to know everything that we're doing. Everything. This is your city. And we're leaders, but a lot of times we make bad decisions. So I'm saying to each and everyone. [0:58:55, 0:59:10]: one of you please get involved and that's anywhere you go there's no one that is perfect but if you're involved with your city you'll know exactly what's going on so again I'm gonna leave you with this to get involved with your city [0:59:10, 0:59:15]: Thank you. I'll tell you what, uh last Tuesday I went down a tasty Tuesday. [0:59:15, 0:59:35]: Food truck tasting tooth. And it took me 10 minutes to find a parking spot. Jan-packed with people. And when I finally parked my car and got there, I looked, I looked around, I said, nothing long diversity around here. I said this is a fantastic community. We're just gonna let the tents to make it even greater than it is today. And so we've got tasting tunes once again tomorrow. [0:59:35, 0:59:55]: Wells the Town Hall of Merrill Manage is 7 o'clock. It's right, Tasty Tuesday, right there at Park Park, so we can go get you a meal at Tasty Tuesday. If you get your meal, come right across the parking lot to Merrill Manors and get an update on where we stand and the facts about what we're dealing with and in reference to this legislation and issues and this proposed city. Okay? You need to do that. [0:59:54, 1:00:14]: tonight and I I love doing proclamations when we're RNG and groups and and and whatnot and I tell you that's great and Alzheimer's individuals I appreciate the fact that they were here and I have to admit my I deal with that slightly not not that I have it but my father is suffering from Alzheimer's so I so when I talk with him I have to [1:00:14, 1:00:34]: repeated several times over and over and over again. And uh so I so I know how it affects it. I know how it affects me personally in this aspect as well. And and it's a recognition for Reverend Jackie Johnson is great, appreciate that I was bringing that forward. She really deserves all the recognition because she does a great job in the community. And I know she's right [1:00:34, 1:00:54]: Down the street to the library, so that's great too. For Ross Children's collect the soul. What I got a rock star. Ross star coming outside, right? And I tell you what, I'm gonna be at that concert and my wife comes out there and listen to my man jam. Okay? Jam his guitar and have a great time. And that's open to the public, citizens, so come on out. [1:00:54, 1:01:14]: out and check out watch children's and and and have a good time with us as the council and everybody else okay continue to be engaged with us as we continue to move the city forward keep the faith we're gonna we're gonna make it work it's gonna work for you and we we've got to keep it listening here listen to you and you gotta have continue to have that dialogue and we'll do so. God bless y'all thank you [1:01:14, 1:01:34]: On that note, I am now going to go down to some updated meetings we have going on. Council meeting Wednesday, June 13th. It's 6 p.m. the City Hall Lewis Meeting Room. Downtown Development Authority meeting June 18th. 6 p.m. City Hallwat Meeting Room. Stop Riz Comprehensive Plan Steering. [1:01:34, 1:01:54]: Committee meeting Tuesday, June 19th, 6 30 to 8, Rural Managers Conference Center. Youth Council Library Committee meeting Wednesday, June 20th, 630 in City Hall, the Leviat Meeting Room. Planning Commission meeting Thursday, June 21st, 6 p.m. City Hall, Council Chambers. Stop base comprehensive plan, final open house meetings. [1:01:54, 1:02:14]: Tuesday, June 26, 5:38, Merle Manders Conference Center. Council Work Session meeting Wednesday, June 27th, 4 p.m. City Hall, Levi Meeting Room. Strappers Association meeting uh business meeting, Thursday, June 28th, 6 p.m. Test Strickland Community Center, 1:30 ML King Senior Harriet's Trail. Food truck [1:02:14, 1:02:34]: I'll mention that that's gonna go on to the end of July. And then we got the already mentioned the Sound Summer Free Concert and featuring uh Rush Childress this Saturday, six and nine thirty. Come check it out. Okay, on that note, we're going to go into a second session. So council, I need a motion for a second session, please. [1:02:34, 1:02:47]: personnel and real estate. Thank you. Thank you. It's been some second. Some second please. There we go. Any discussion? All flavor please indicate. Thank you. [1:03:47, 1:03:49]: See the curve makes you get it. [1:03:53, 1:04:11]: Can you do something? All the names of the people who are here? Okay, so Elizabeth Bradley is who he presented it to. [1:04:12, 1:04:32]: Watch it. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Well thank you. Well you're yeah. We gotta be quick understanding all that said and get those notes. I'll get it out. I admire your fear that you're doing its job so well. That's such a hard job.
  • 2018-04-03 · City Council · Transcript · Special Called Meeting

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[0:03:06, 0:03:07]: Yeah. [0:03:23, 0:03:27]: I think it's even more than that very simple. [0:03:29, 0:03:30]: Yeah. [0:03:56, 0:04:05]: No, uh huh. Okay. [0:04:07, 0:04:10]: I'm gonna do it. [0:04:12, 0:04:13]: Oh. [0:04:14, 0:04:16]: [275.9, 277.5]: Okay, Clerk, uh you sat. [0:04:40, 0:04:42]: Vanessa? Yes, sir. You set? Mm-hmm. [0:04:42, 0:04:43]: Okay. [0:04:45, 0:04:52]: Ladies and gentlemen, it's a little after four. I almost got five after four. I'm gonna call the special call meeting for April 3rd to order. [0:04:54, 0:04:59]: And the invocation will be done by uh Neat Robinson. Councilman Robinson, please. Everybody stands? [0:05:02, 0:05:17]: May we all bow. Father God, as your leaders assemble, we humbly come before you, asking that you will guide and lead us in a manner that we will faithfully serve your people. In your name we pray. Amen. [0:05:18, 0:05:20]: Pledge allegiance here? [0:05:20, 0:05:32]: Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, Republic who would have stand on nation, under God, individuals, but liberty and justice for all. [0:05:43, 0:05:44]: No call please. [0:05:45, 0:05:46]: Councilman Thomas. [0:05:46, 0:05:47]: Councilman Blount. [0:05:48, 0:05:49]: Present. Mayor Ford. Present. [0:05:49, 0:05:51]: Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. [0:05:52, 0:05:57]: Let the record reflect Mayor Pro Tem Gantt is not in attendance. Councilman Alexander. [0:05:58, 0:05:59]: Councilwoman Robinson. [0:06:00, 0:06:06]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, appreciate that. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:06:09, 0:06:09]: There's a second. [0:06:11, 0:06:19]: Is there a second? Thank you very much. Any questions? Discussion? All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:06:21, 0:06:21]: Okay. [0:06:22, 0:06:29]: All right. What we have next to review the minutes for the following meetings. The uh February 2nd special call meeting. [0:06:31, 0:06:32]: We also have here [0:06:33, 0:06:38]: A council meeting on the twelfth of um February. [0:06:38, 0:06:49]: And also a work session minutes on the 27th of February. Just review those. And our next meeting we'll be able to repeat them at the time. [0:06:49, 0:06:50]: Yeah. [0:06:59, 0:07:03]: If there are actually no questions about those minutes, we'll move on to new business in just a second. [0:07:07, 0:07:08]: And move. [0:07:09, 0:07:14]: New business. Legislative update presented by uh City Manager, Mr. Nighton, please. [0:07:14, 0:07:19]: Uh mayor and council, the legislative update would be an item that would be covered under executive session. [0:07:20, 0:07:21]: Okay. [0:07:22, 0:07:23]: Appreciate that. [0:07:24, 0:07:44]: Okay. Item number five, council consideration to approve the ordinance providing limitation on the city manager's contracting authority up to$25,000. Presented by Mr. Knighton, sir, please. Yes to Mayor and Council, uh this uh item is a request to um uh provide that uh contracting authority up to twenty-five thousand dollars previously uh [0:07:44, 0:08:04]: It was uh$50,000 for uh a lengthy period of time and then it was reduced down to$10,000. The request is as a result of uh you know some of the day-to-day operations that we encounter, talking to a number of staff people, and it provides more flexibility with respect to uh making the necessary. [0:08:04, 0:08:23]: purchases of uh that are necessary uh to conduct our activities. So the request is up to$25,000. That does not necessarily mean that items less than that may not be brought to the council for your consideration, but it does provide the latitude necessary to go up to$25,000 as needed. [0:08:24, 0:08:27]: Okay, thank you. Um any questions? [0:08:29, 0:08:33]: Do I have a motion to accept the uh ordinance change at all? [0:08:36, 0:08:37]: Soul Move. [0:08:37, 0:08:38]: Is it a second? [0:08:39, 0:08:41]: All right. Any further discussion? [0:08:44, 0:08:46]: Hearing none, all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:08:49, 0:08:52]: Four. I guess we got four affirmatives in. Okay, good deal. [0:08:53, 0:09:10]: Council consideration to approve vendor interdevelopment for interdevelop, I guess, for information technology services, the city of Stockbridge, RFP 17, RFP 112017-DRR, presented by Mr. Riley. [0:09:13, 0:09:14]: No. [0:09:15, 0:09:19]: Want to hear it after the session? Okay, we're gonna do it. [0:09:22, 0:09:28]: Ask if that item could be held until after executive session for consideration of the council. [0:09:33, 0:09:45]: All right, if that is the case, then uh what we have left is executive session itself. So I need a motion council to go to executive session, please. So move. [0:09:48, 0:09:54]: So moved uh one uh Blount and then second by Thomas. Okay, any discussion? All in favor, please indicate. [0:09:55, 0:09:58]: All right folks, we'll be back from the segment session shortly. [0:10:00, 0:10:00]: Mm-hmm. [0:10:06, 0:10:08]: Apply a diversity policy not only. [0:10:20, 0:10:21]: Hey Carly. [0:10:22, 0:10:25]: Maybe you can um ask. [0:10:25, 0:10:29]: This this is this is a this is a special call. [0:10:30, 0:10:32]: You're a bit of a high. [0:11:16, 0:11:16]: That's it. [0:11:20, 0:11:21]: Okay. [0:11:22, 0:11:25]: Yeah, yeah. [0:11:40, 0:11:42]: I'm [0:11:51, 0:11:52]: Yeah, yeah. [0:12:01, 0:12:03]: I'm not saying. [0:12:40, 0:12:44]: I don't know how to shake it. No. [0:13:45, 0:13:46]: Wait for the channel. [0:13:54, 0:13:59]: [857.9, 860.2]: I don't know. [0:14:27, 0:14:36]: [876.7, 885.0]: So we're big main. [0:14:45, 0:14:58]: Probably a little bit like I see. I think [0:15:01, 0:15:03]: Oh. [0:15:04, 0:15:24]: Usually nothing is more popular. Yeah, like bringing that. Maybe I don't have all those things like my legs. Yeah. [0:15:24, 0:15:29]: I don't know. [0:15:30, 0:15:37]: [938.8, 943.5]: Oh I've got to help me out. [0:15:44, 0:15:50]: This is a little bit. [0:15:58, 0:16:01]: Oh yes, yeah. [0:16:02, 0:16:04]: Yeah. [0:16:17, 0:16:37]: Maybe it's a pattern, you know. I've never rented some personal. [0:16:37, 0:16:38]: [999.9, 1002.2]: [0:16:44, 0:16:51]: I don't know if I don't know if that helps you. [0:17:49, 0:17:51]: Right. [0:17:53, 0:17:55]: That's fine. [0:18:00, 0:18:16]: Yeah, it's basically cheese, so she wanted that time. So she wanted to go. [0:18:18, 0:18:25]: [1106.4, 1124.8]: She was bringing that off. She didn't really write that. [0:18:46, 0:18:50]: [1144.9, 1148.6]: Yeah, you want to. [0:19:15, 0:19:17]: But it is a little real. [0:19:19, 0:19:33]: Yeah, but she didn't say that you know during it. [0:19:47, 0:19:49]: Yeah, well I think it's more. [0:19:51, 0:19:53]: Yeah, it's not. [0:19:56, 0:19:58]: Yeah. [0:20:01, 0:20:03]: Okay, yeah, we're just let you get some. [0:20:04, 0:20:06]: Yeah. [0:20:13, 0:20:21]: [1224.1, 1232.3]: Maybe the mayor playing earlier last season. [0:20:36, 0:20:46]: Oh yeah. [0:20:50, 0:20:52]: Yes. [0:21:00, 0:21:08]: And how drop it can't bring out the rock, but that's more than a little bit. [0:21:10, 0:21:12]: I'm not sure what we did. [0:21:20, 0:21:30]: [1310.0, 1321.8]: But it's different. So it's a different thing, but it's more important. [0:22:02, 0:22:11]: Yeah, we have an involved working out. And then it was a good one. [0:22:13, 0:22:21]: Because I'm not sure. [0:22:27, 0:22:34]: Yeah, when it's you got to go on. [0:22:39, 0:22:52]: But it's more software. It's more cow. Then it's saying that something is not something called the original photoshop because it was more capital. Okay. [0:22:52, 0:22:58]: And we'll never see it. [0:23:05, 0:23:06]: Yeah. [0:23:08, 0:23:28]: [1408.5, 1428.5]: [0:23:48, 0:23:52]: Okay, okay. [0:25:51, 0:25:53]: Oh [0:26:08, 0:26:15]: [1577.0, 1579.1]: [0:26:21, 0:26:27]: Thank you. [0:28:15, 0:28:15]: Okay. [0:28:17, 0:28:22]: We're gonna talk about it. [0:29:02, 0:29:03]: [1745.5, 1747.1]: [0:29:50, 0:29:51]: Yeah. [0:32:12, 0:32:14]: Oh, that's what they were. [0:32:17, 0:32:21]: Yeah, laughter and [0:32:21, 0:32:23]: Okay, [0:32:25, 0:32:27]: That's not a little bit. [0:36:20, 0:36:21]: So [0:36:22, 0:36:23]: [2186.4, 2189.6]: That's pretty good for it. [0:37:13, 0:37:14]: Yeah. [0:37:36, 0:37:38]: [2379.5, 2380.5]: Yeah. [0:42:21, 0:42:22]: What do you think about it? [0:58:12, 0:58:13]: Yeah. [0:59:22, 0:59:23]: [3570.0, 3575.4]: Or you do. [0:59:42, 0:59:44]: Okay, first yeah. [0:59:46, 0:59:50]: Yeah, okay. [0:59:52, 0:59:53]: Yeah. [1:01:17, 1:01:18]: Okay. [1:02:15, 1:02:19]: Yeah, there's a crazy NGOs thing. [1:02:27, 1:02:29]: That's right. Yeah. [1:02:30, 1:02:31]: Yeah. [1:02:58, 1:03:06]: Yep, yep, that's right. Especially young. Yeah, especially on the urge and often. [1:03:06, 1:03:08]: First yeah. [1:04:50, 1:04:52]: I'll still get the dog in it. [1:05:30, 1:05:36]: [3944.5, 3956.1]: Oh yeah, it's looking very sharp. [1:06:08, 1:06:11]: What if I think it's from twenty? [1:08:28, 1:08:30]: Yeah, that's the last thing you know, like. [1:08:31, 1:08:34]: Yeah, because build it on the cost of the whole. [1:09:27, 1:09:31]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [1:09:32, 1:09:37]: But yeah, they are. [1:10:15, 1:10:17]: That's what I'm saying. [1:10:20, 1:10:24]: [4229.3, 4232.4]: Right? What is it there? [1:10:55, 1:10:57]: Oh yeah. [1:12:46, 1:12:48]: I'm following up, but then the post up is a [1:12:50, 1:12:53]: Yeah, I'll let people run again, I'll let [1:13:06, 1:13:06]: No. [1:13:20, 1:13:28]: [4453.3, 4459.0]: I think they don't know. [1:14:20, 1:14:21]: Yeah, [1:15:27, 1:15:31]: Yeah, but I have all that. [1:15:32, 1:15:35]: She's looking for the gland on my hand. [1:15:36, 1:15:39]: Uh bracket, yeah. [1:26:37, 1:26:40]: What do you want to do? [1:27:06, 1:27:16]: I'm going to get a lot of birds like [1:27:17, 1:27:18]: But for you. [1:27:20, 1:27:23]: But it's here! [1:27:23, 1:27:27]: [5257.6, 5259.3]: So I want to take it. [1:27:50, 1:27:59]: I wish I could tell the following. Hey, hey Kid, can we turn the show back? [1:28:20, 1:28:21]: Okay. [1:28:24, 1:28:27]: [5310.6, 5313.2]: [1:28:39, 1:28:43]: That would be right. [1:28:57, 1:29:00]: Just a bitch. [1:30:00, 1:30:04]: It is. [1:30:22, 1:30:25]: [5448.6, 5449.4]: Uh huh. [1:30:53, 1:30:55]: Yeah. [1:30:57, 1:30:59]: Uh [1:31:15, 1:31:17]: Yeah, man. [1:31:27, 1:31:28]: [5496.7, 5498.3]: I wanna go up to the minute. [1:31:45, 1:31:49]: [5509.8, 5513.2]: Yeah, okay, yeah. [1:31:57, 1:31:59]: Well what you do is you have [1:32:06, 1:32:08]: [5532.2, 5533.9]: But maybe you can put it on here. [1:32:47, 1:32:50]: I forgot that. [1:33:10, 1:33:10]: Yeah. [1:33:34, 1:33:38]: Alright, let's take a look. [1:33:42, 1:33:44]: [5641.2, 5641.9]: Yeah. [1:35:51, 1:35:55]: I don't think I saw that works with me. [1:36:10, 1:36:10]: Okay. [1:36:47, 1:36:49]: It's the hour. [1:36:49, 1:36:52]: It's still like anything. [1:37:11, 1:37:14]: Right. [1:37:20, 1:37:22]: [5842.5, 5845.5]: I'm not basically how you can look up. [1:37:28, 1:37:30]: Oh yeah. [1:37:34, 1:37:39]: [5864.4, 5865.8]: Yeah. [1:37:48, 1:37:49]: Yeah, it's meant to. [1:37:56, 1:37:57]: Yeah, [1:38:03, 1:38:03]: Okay. [1:38:20, 1:38:20]: Yeah. [1:38:23, 1:38:24]: Yeah. [1:41:10, 1:41:16]: Probably very button, big button. [1:41:25, 1:41:28]: Oh, I agree with you. [1:41:28, 1:41:40]: But the name of the train called? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. [1:41:45, 1:41:52]: Really? So y'all have to go there? [1:44:04, 1:44:16]: Let me get a chance to come out of this room here. How long we're going to check yourself? Uh I think it's gonna be short than that. Alright, thank you. Okay. [1:44:38, 1:44:40]: Yeah, I guess. [1:45:02, 1:45:03]: Yeah. [1:52:50, 1:52:52]: Oh screen. [1:55:40, 1:55:41]: Right. [1:55:41, 1:55:44]: I guess we're real short, she helped me. [1:55:46, 1:55:51]: Right. Oh baby. Baking. Yeah, buzz. [1:56:06, 1:56:07]: Yeah. [1:56:14, 1:56:16]: Yeah, I like it up. [1:56:36, 1:56:37]: There we go. [1:56:40, 1:56:42]: Oh state. [1:56:43, 1:56:45]: And a great resonance. [1:57:26, 1:57:26]: No! [1:57:31, 1:57:33]: It took us whole hours thinking. [1:57:34, 1:57:37]: Don't like [1:57:39, 1:57:40]: Any call for [1:58:15, 1:58:16]: Okay, get up. [1:58:19, 1:58:21]: [7102.3, 7109.0]: I'm mad. But it be in the heart to bring some people. [1:58:54, 1:58:55]: Okay, what is the day? [1:58:59, 1:59:00]: We gotta care. [1:59:17, 1:59:19]: That right. [1:59:27, 1:59:30]: Uh yeah. [1:59:41, 1:59:45]: I'll figure out what I said. [2:01:06, 2:01:07]: Yeah, yeah. [2:01:11, 2:01:12]: Yeah. [2:01:14, 2:01:21]: That's all I'm right. [2:01:29, 2:01:30]: [7302.3, 7303.7]: Yeah, yeah. [2:01:45, 2:01:46]: Oh yeah, but [2:02:01, 2:02:04]: But it's still yeah, we can see. [2:03:01, 2:03:03]: Yeah, yeah. [2:03:05, 2:03:06]: No look there. [2:03:11, 2:03:14]: [7397.0, 7400.2]: [2:03:22, 2:03:30]: Yeah, this is the one. [2:03:34, 2:03:37]: That's probably the paperwork. [2:03:42, 2:03:43]: [7428.9, 7431.8]: Obviously, huh? [2:03:53, 2:03:55]: Okay, so [2:03:59, 2:04:00]: Oh that's yeah. [2:04:04, 2:04:07]: [7450.0, 7451.6]: [2:04:13, 2:04:15]: Back to work on Friday too. [2:04:18, 2:04:24]: I said love. I said love. [2:07:18, 2:07:20]: Yeah. [2:07:47, 2:07:48]: No. [2:10:01, 2:10:02]: Yeah. [2:10:40, 2:10:43]: No, no, no. [2:11:20, 2:11:20]: Right. [2:11:27, 2:11:28]: Mm-hmm. [2:12:11, 2:12:13]: Yeah. [2:12:26, 2:12:29]: [7957.9, 7959.5]: Oh god, [2:12:45, 2:12:47]: Five. [2:12:49, 2:12:51]: Yeah. [2:13:21, 2:13:22]: Yeah. [2:14:40, 2:14:42]: Racket. [2:14:51, 2:14:53]: Come on, guess what? [2:15:03, 2:15:04]: Yeah, okay. [2:27:55, 2:27:57]: Yeah. [2:28:24, 2:28:25]: Yeah. [2:28:34, 2:28:40]: Oh you think they are the noun. How would it win? [2:32:04, 2:32:05]: And everything's cool. [2:35:17, 2:35:18]: Well. [2:35:40, 2:35:41]: Okay, see. [2:35:44, 2:35:47]: [9352.8, 9356.0]: Zero and I got a little very moving to [2:35:59, 2:36:01]: Yeah, I just [2:37:00, 2:37:01]: Yeah, I don't know. [2:37:04, 2:37:05]: Yeah. [2:40:13, 2:40:19]: I I just keep on driving. I look at it, but just keep on driving, but I just [2:40:50, 2:40:51]: What is it? Yeah. [2:42:05, 2:42:08]: I can't get it in the I can uh [2:42:28, 2:42:30]: [9750.6, 9752.0]: Yeah, that's the problem. [2:42:36, 2:42:37]: Yeah, so [2:42:57, 2:42:58]: Right. [2:43:03, 2:43:09]: Yeah, I know that was much more than good. Right. Right. [2:43:11, 2:43:15]: [9798.0, 9802.6]: Yeah, shell everything. [2:43:43, 2:43:44]: Yeah, yeah. [2:45:01, 2:45:02]: Oh the jump is that. [2:45:08, 2:45:09]: No. [2:45:36, 2:45:39]: I did, I did take that off. [2:52:28, 2:52:30]: Right. [2:52:32, 2:52:33]: [10539.6, 10540.9]: Yeah, fifteen. [2:56:19, 2:56:21]: Was deal? [2:56:43, 2:56:46]: No, that's not the open. [2:57:04, 2:57:07]: Go on, look at it. [2:57:41, 2:57:44]: Yeah, true. Yeah, it's like you know. [2:59:51, 2:59:55]: Yeah, no, I won't say that. [3:01:10, 3:01:12]: Always. [3:02:30, 3:02:32]: That's a little page. [3:04:12, 3:04:13]: Five. [3:04:53, 3:04:55]: I'm like the attractions down the road. [3:05:12, 3:05:14]: [11166.4, 11169.4]: Better. [3:06:16, 3:06:17]: That's all. [3:06:19, 3:06:21]: But off one. [3:06:22, 3:06:24]: They're not going to be able to do that. [3:06:29, 3:06:31]: And what we're looking at. [3:06:34, 3:06:35]: I ain't gonna have one. [3:08:23, 3:08:25]: Like a low minutes of video. [3:12:45, 3:12:46]: Oh. [3:12:47, 3:12:55]: Way too long. Too much target. [3:13:04, 3:13:06]: I don't know. [3:13:08, 3:13:10]: What do you think? [3:13:12, 3:13:13]: You're I don't know. [3:13:17, 3:13:28]: So I actually got some. [3:13:32, 3:13:46]: What if uh you can get a ball? [3:13:49, 3:13:54]: All right. [3:13:55, 3:14:01]: Spin up. Okay. We're gonna go back to the back. [3:14:05, 3:14:06]: Yeah. [3:14:06, 3:14:14]: We gotta go back. Council Elliott's never can't run. So we [3:14:16, 3:14:18]: Yes, we bought that share. [3:14:20, 3:14:21]: All right. [3:14:21, 3:14:24]: Okay. That's fine. [3:14:25, 3:14:27]: Agate, I know. [3:14:30, 3:14:31]: No, that's fine. You're good. [3:14:32, 3:14:32]: Yes, huh? [3:14:33, 3:14:36]: We'll take care. I I knew what you were talking about. [3:14:36, 3:14:38]: Yeah. Yes ma'am. [3:14:39, 3:14:40]: Mm-hmm. [3:14:41, 3:14:42]: What about the two that [3:14:45, 3:15:05]: Okay. So um Smere. Now they're we don't use that one, do we get out there? I'll give them a actually no uh back up then I mean before we go through they would uh correct button. That's okay. [3:15:04, 3:15:05]: Yeah. [3:15:06, 3:15:07]: I'll take care. [3:15:09, 3:15:18]: Because I know. But I thought it was uh this was going on on Monday. Oh, okay. Yeah, so that's why I was like [3:15:20, 3:15:21]: Yeah. [3:15:24, 3:15:37]: Oh no, all right. Okay, we are now completed with our executive session, so I uh need a motion to end the second session, please. Boom. [3:15:40, 3:15:41]: There's second? Second. [3:15:41, 3:15:43]: Okay. Any discussion? [3:15:44, 3:15:45]: All in favor, please indicate. [3:15:47, 3:15:47]: Okay. [3:15:48, 3:15:52]: I need a motion to reconvene our special call meeting, please. So [3:15:52, 3:15:54]: Tec there you go. Any discussion? [3:15:56, 3:16:06]: All favor please indicate. All right. In our executive session, we have some uh we had a at least one item that needs to be presented. Can I have a motion for that item, please? [3:16:08, 3:16:09]: Yeah. [3:16:09, 3:16:23]: Yes sir. I'd like to move that we accept the recommendation by the city manager in regards to the uh evaluation of city clerk. [3:16:23, 3:16:28]: Um no I is this uh you're talking about s we're talking about salary, is that right? [3:16:30, 3:16:38]: Well y y y yes, sir. I d the the motion um would probably be more proper to to include a reference to an increased salary. [3:16:45, 3:16:47]: And increase it. [3:16:52, 3:16:52]: Okay, is there a second? [3:16:54, 3:16:55]: Is there a second? Okay, there you go. [3:16:56, 3:16:57]: Uh further discussion? [3:16:59, 3:17:00]: All in favour, please in okay. [3:17:01, 3:17:02]: Okay, motion passes. [3:17:03, 3:17:04]: You're welcome. [3:17:04, 3:17:05]: I'll stand it. [3:17:05, 3:17:09]: All right. So what we have, one other item we have today is Mr. Riley. [3:17:10, 3:17:16]: You are going to present to us uh information about uh IT, is that correct, sir? Yes, sir. Right? [3:17:17, 3:17:17]: Go right here. [3:17:18, 3:17:38]: Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor and Council members. I'm here for the request approval of a recommended proposal, RFP number 17RFP 112017-DRR. It's for IT Technical Technology Supporter Service. [3:17:37, 3:17:53]: services with the Interdev LLC out of Alpharetta, Georgia. This contract is prorated for till the end of this year in the amount of$100,000. This agreement is for one year with two one-year renewals. [3:17:55, 3:17:56]: All right. Um [3:17:57, 3:18:06]: Anything else you need to add before the have any questions from the council? That's it? Anything else? Okay. Council, got any questions that you may have? Mayor. Go right here, sir. [3:18:06, 3:18:13]: I I just want to make sure that I understand this process uh completely. Um at this point [3:18:14, 3:18:34]: Uh is this uh the end use is this the the vendor has been selected or is it that uh we're putting this out for RFP or how how talk about that a little bit. This project was put out for RFP back in October of 2017. And we had two companies to respond to it. [3:18:34, 3:18:51]: And I had a selection committee of myself and several members of the city, and we actually evaluated the two proposals. And based on that, we came up with Interdev as our best company for the IT services. [3:18:51, 3:19:11]: Okay, now as far as these services are concerned, I read that there would be someone that would be on site as well. Now I look at some of the other uh administrative as well as the state and they're able to do something where they're posting these directly to YouTube or or a popular site like that, Vimeo. [3:19:11, 3:19:14]: where they are available immediately. [3:19:15, 3:19:34]: Uh but after the meeting you can reference and you can scroll through them. Is uh tell me all of the services that we would be getting from this provider that uh we that this council has discussed. Uh the uh what is the difference between this provider and some past providers. [3:19:34, 3:19:54]: Well this provider will actually have an on-site user five days a week at from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. as well as on site whenever we have council meetings. They will also provide the city with configurations, network, domains, printer setups, installations. [3:19:54, 3:20:14]: workstations, just all of IT from the cradle to grave. We will have one person that's here on site 24-7. Whenever staff is here, they will be here. And whenever we have anything from our networks going down or we [3:20:14, 3:20:26]: have any type of new solutions or anything that we need, they will be here 24-7 as well as have a network of team providers that will support the city. [3:20:26, 3:20:46]: Yeah, one final question if I could. Now there was in this RP there was a mention that there would be some type of um there would be a verification on other municipalities that this company uh was dealing with. Could you elaborate on that? Where we might be able to look at it and to see what they're doing [3:20:46, 3:20:48]: Uh for the other minute spelled. [3:20:48, 3:21:08]: Uh yes, sir. Uh well I don't have the actual list in front of me, but I know uh I have checked their references and made sure that they have supported a city size as well as scope that we have in front of you. They have supported cities such as City of Alpharet. [3:21:08, 3:21:17]: City of Tucker, City of Um Stone Crest. So they are actually a great provider as well as they come highly recommended. [3:21:18, 3:21:22]: Thank you. Any other questions from the council? Two real quick. [3:21:22, 3:21:23]: Um [3:21:23, 3:21:25]: When would they start? [3:21:26, 3:21:27]: Immediately. [3:21:27, 3:21:40]: I will touch bases with them in the morning and have them drafted up a contract, but I'll have been in conversation with them and I'll have them to start immediately working with our current provider. [3:21:40, 3:21:46]: Second question. I did want to add um Councilman Blount. There would be a transition period, obviously. [3:21:47, 3:22:07]: Um and our current provider um uh uh via um agreement has agreed to go through the end of the month with us to ensure that there is a proper transition. And let me say um that Liberty Tech has been a great provider for us. If this is if it is the council's will to go with Interdev, then obviously that that is what is being pr presented for you. [3:22:07, 3:22:12]: But we would anticipate a um a smooth transition between the two providers. [3:22:13, 3:22:33]: Um at that time the reason I was asked is because at the time they start, is there anything that need to be fixed or would they be coming in with everything operable so we won't have a you say the only way we could gauge the efficiency of anybody doing something is that everything has to be in place properly pro you know at the time that they start. [3:22:33, 3:22:53]: I just don't want us talking about issues that had nothing to do with them with the w if we go with them to a new company versus them coming in and everything is already set. Is that what we're looking at? Right, and we would hope that the transition period would allow us to do that to ensure that anything that is outstanding in terms of uh [3:22:53, 3:23:00]: um any any work product or anything like that or or anything that's in transition would be properly carried through to the new provider. [3:23:01, 3:23:03]: Any further questions from the council? [3:23:04, 3:23:15]: Okay, I need a motion then, no further questions on on the um accepting this particular um contract or bid or service from uh InterGev LLC. [3:23:16, 3:23:29]: Uh Mayor. Yes sir. I'd make a motion to accept the recommendation of staff for Interdev to become the IT provider for the city. Sir Second. Second. Second down here uh second for Mr. Blount. Okay, any further discussion? [3:23:30, 3:23:32]: If not, all in favor please indicate. [3:23:33, 3:23:34]: Okay, genemos. [3:23:34, 3:23:36]: Thank you. Thank you. [3:23:37, 3:23:39]: On that note, uh we [3:23:40, 3:23:42]: On that note, we have uh [3:23:43, 3:23:46]: Comments. I have no well actually [3:23:48, 3:23:54]: Okay, it's a special call meeting. It's a special call meeting. So anyway, so on that note then I'd I'd like to motion in the meeting. [3:23:55, 3:23:55]: Yes, sir. [3:23:58, 3:23:59]: All right, so second? Second. [3:24:00, 3:24:04]: Any discussion? All in favor, please indicate. Meeting is adjourned. [3:24:07, 3:24:07]: So [3:24:15, 3:24:35]: Let uh here or they can do it. Do you do you iron you don't iron? [3:24:35, 3:24:46]: You just wash it and no breakers in the proof. [3:24:47, 3:24:51]: Something that's like a little bit. [3:24:55, 3:25:10]: I just agree with that. Okay, so [3:25:32, 3:25:33]: Yeah, yeah. [3:25:40, 3:26:00]: All right, uh so I'll put that word. So yeah, here's the part. [3:26:10, 3:26:30]: Okay, so you can do uh they have the lines and all women. The reason for that is because when they were like I said, she on the camera. [3:26:30, 3:26:31]: [12394.3, 12395.0]: The box. [3:26:37, 3:26:43]: [12403.7, 12423.7]: I can make the whole colour in the morning just breaking the told me my phone would be able to break it to the late two. [3:27:03, 3:27:05]: [12435.0, 12455.0]: Oh I know but see I wonder if I had both or something like that. [3:27:35, 3:27:55]: And I get it. I don't care about it. And just stick the little thing, stick your uh stick the magnet on the back of it and still see the left as well. And I don't want to. [3:27:54, 3:28:05]: Yeah, that's what people. [3:28:25, 3:28:45]: I would imagine and I said the option. [3:28:45, 3:29:05]: But I already called them an error going to have to put it in other words. Appreciate you. [3:29:04, 3:29:12]: [12552.8, 12560.0]: Oh I got sure we got it. [3:29:22, 3:29:41]: I can watch out. I can have one of these exact little folding parts like that. Yeah. I can't read it back. It folds up, right? Yeah. Oh I don't know. Yeah, they fold it down like the story. Is it that two? [3:29:43, 3:29:50]: Yes, now it's going to be a landless.
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    --- title: Town Hall Meeting March 15 2018 date: 2018-03-15 source: 2018-03-15_Town_Hall_Meeting_March_15_2018.wav --- [0:00:25, 0:00:31]: [ 43.8, 63.8]: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for coming to the second part of our town hall series that we had. We will get started momentarily at 7 p.m. Thank you for coming out. This event is for you. It's orchestrated for you. We want to hear your concerns. We will present information getting you the facts. In the meanwhile, please [0:01:03, 0:01:23]: Please get a green card if you have any comments, um, any expressions, questions, anything you want to get out today, we're gonna use our green cards to write this down. And for the interest of time, we're gonna get to those questions and concerns as soon as possible by a show of hands. Who needs a green card for questions? [0:01:24, 0:01:25]: Is it right here? Okay. [0:01:26, 0:01:38]: So let us know throughout the presentation event tonight. Uh raise your hand. We're gonna get to those questions, but we need for you to write them down, okay? And we will start momentarily. Thank you for your time. [0:01:42, 0:02:02]: Yeah, so we need to work. Uh director. Would you say? Okay. Okay. [0:02:02, 0:02:10]: Wonder that she was gonna do something with the other. [0:02:35, 0:02:41]: A little delay. Hey. [0:04:39, 0:04:40]: [300.6, 301.8]: [0:05:02, 0:05:05]: Enjoy yourself, right? [0:05:19, 0:05:21]: [362.6, 370.0]: Okay. We'll put a bit sure to get placed before they get the seeds. Okay. [0:08:10, 0:08:26]: Yeah. We would ask um that uh the people sitting on the very back rows, if you all could squeeze in just a little bit more, we may be able to create a few more spaces. [0:08:29, 0:08:35]: We do have overflow down in the Leviar room where it can be watched live as well. [0:08:38, 0:08:40]: We will be starting in just a moment. [0:08:43, 0:09:03]: Is that making sure they sort of all over there? [0:09:03, 0:09:05]: You can see. [0:09:06, 0:09:12]: We do have one or two more seats, so if you're coming in, you can come in young lady over here to my left. [0:09:13, 0:09:20]: And we have about three more that's available on the back row, on the back bench. So you can come on through if you want it to be seated here. [0:09:40, 0:10:00]: Just a few housekeeping notes. Again, we are thrilled you are with us tonight for the second town hall meeting in a series that we have held over the last few months. This event is for you. It's for our community members to get the facts, the facts, okay? We're gonna clear those out tonight. If you have any questions or concerns about [0:09:59, 0:10:15]: about the involuntary deannexation of Stockbridge property, please put them on the green card. Any questions or concerns, we would prefer you write those down for the interest of time because tonight's event will be brief. We want to be conscientious of your time with us tonight. [0:10:18, 0:10:24]: If you need a green card to write a question or concern on, please raise your hand and one of our staff members will assist. [0:10:31, 0:10:32]: Those are two seats. [0:10:34, 0:10:40]: And we do have two seats to my left in the back. [0:10:55, 0:11:01]: [663.9, 665.0]: Yeah. [0:11:16, 0:11:19]: I think it's strong yeah. Um [0:11:21, 0:11:22]: Oh galaxy. [0:11:24, 0:11:44]: Well, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us for this town hall presented by the City of Stockbridge. Tonight we will specifically address questions, concerns, getting the facts to you about an involuntary deannexation proposal by one group of individuals to take property that legally belongs to the City of Stockbridge. [0:11:44, 0:12:04]: I'm going to present to you the layout for tonight's event that will be very brief. We do ask that you stay with us because we have important information all throughout the night. First we will have our official welcome from City Manager Wandy Knighton. Then we will have a presentation. [0:12:04, 0:12:24]: from you covering the legislative process dealing with this involuntary de-nexation proposal. Then we will have question and answer. And tonight we're going to be conscious of your time and we're going to use our green cards. So all throughout the evening, even when there's a presentation or someone is speaking, if you have any question that pops up in your head or [0:12:24, 0:12:44]: any concerns raise your hand and we will have a member of our staff team get to you and get you that card once you're finished with your questions or concerns if you would pass it to the end of the row and someone will collect them and we will try our best to get to each question and concern tonight. And at the conclusion at the question and answer we [0:12:44, 0:13:04]: We will have public comments from our elected officials. Right now, that will go accordingly to Councilman Elton Alexander will speak first. Then Councilman John Blount, followed by Councilwoman Neat Robinson, followed by Councilman Alfonso Thomas, followed by Mayor Pro Tem Lakeisha Gantt, and final comments will be provided by Mayor Anthony S. Ford. [0:13:04, 0:13:10]: Again, this event is for you. We thank you for your time and Randy Knight and City Manager will open with comments. Thank you. [0:13:12, 0:13:16]: Good evening again. My name is Randy Knight and City Manager of the City of Stockbridge and [0:13:16, 0:13:19]: I'm uh happy to serve in that role. [0:13:21, 0:13:41]: Uh thank you again for uh coming out tonight. This is a very important issue uh which has been before us for some time now, and uh obviously the city of Stockbridge has taken a very firm position on where we stand uh as it relates to this proposed deannexation. Uh the mayor and council are in unanimous support to oppose uh this. [0:13:41, 0:13:57]: this proposal and we have spent numerous hours at the Capitol speaking to various legislators and other parties regarding this matter. I would mention again that the mayor and council have done an excellent job in their leadership on this issue and others. [0:13:58, 0:14:18]: Again tonight we're here. This is a second town hall, as uh Shana uh Thornton mentioned, and tonight our format is a little bit different. We wanted to ensure that as many questions that you have can be answered, and that's why we're going to the question uh form uh format uh in order to ensure that we can [0:14:18, 0:14:38]: Get as many questions answered as possible. Uh the presentation by Camilla Moore will be very detailed and very thorough, and we're sure that a number of questions may be answered throughout that presentation, but we certainly want to give everybody an opportunity as best we can uh to be heard this evening. I would also emphasize that it's very important [0:14:38, 0:14:52]: uh... for you all of course to hear from your elected officials uh after the presentation is done. Uh so we certainly want to make uh ample time for the elected officials uh to speak to you uh directly. [0:14:53, 0:15:07]: All right, with that, uh we will go forward uh with the presentation. And again, we thank you very much for being involved. We thank you very much for um uh a presentation this evening. Before we get started, we will have an invocation. [0:15:09, 0:15:10]: Can we bow our heads, please? [0:15:12, 0:15:32]: Dear Lord, we are so thankful to be in your presence. We are so thankful to live in a great nation where we enjoy so many freedoms and liberties. We pray your blessing upon the United States of America and certainly upon the city of Stockbridge in Henry County. We pray your blessings upon us individually and collectively, and we pray your vision that this community is. [0:15:32, 0:15:50]: Will can continue to grow, prosper, and benefit all people. We pray your presence this evening, that what is said and done will be pleasing in your sight. And we pray, Lord, that as we leave this place, we will leave better than we came. In your Son Christ's name we pray. [0:15:51, 0:15:51]: Amen. [0:15:56, 0:15:59]: We end up from Randy, would you put it on full screen for me? [0:16:00, 0:16:00]: Okay. [0:16:08, 0:16:10]: There we go, let's see. Can you guys hear me? [0:16:11, 0:16:13]: Greening Stag! [0:16:14, 0:16:25]: Y'all may be a little bit better than the group last week. Uh media's here. People say you don't care, so let's let them know that you care. When I say good evening, Start Bridge, you say what? [0:16:26, 0:16:46]: We're here. Hi, my name is Camilla Moore, and I'm going to be presenting information to you tonight on this complex process of how you get a bill through and how it particularly pertains to the incorporation bills and the DNX section bills that will impact the City of Stockbridge. Now just a little bit about myself. I've been through eight [0:16:46, 0:17:06]: of these started with Sandy Springs, ending with the city of South Fulton last year. So when I tell you what has typically been done for the creation of the last ten cities, I give you my word because I've been through eight of them. So I know what has traditionally been the pattern to get you there and what is an anomaly. [0:17:06, 0:17:26]: Which is what we're going to talk about tonight. Everybody's with me? As I go through this process, if I'm going too fast, just raise your hand and that means I need to slow down. Okay? What I would like for you to do as I go through this presentation, if you have questions, when I get to a particular slide, just write that down and we'll make sure that the [0:17:26, 0:17:30]: And we answer your questions. You ready to get started? [0:17:31, 0:17:34]: Now everyone should have a presentation. If you don't, raise your hand. [0:17:35, 0:17:36]: Everyone got one? [0:17:36, 0:17:38]: Okay, here we go. [0:17:39, 0:17:59]: Many people say or have told us this has been a very complicated process because every time somebody says that it's over, then I look around and it's not over. Somebody says that something has passed, then I hear that it hasn't passed. So really where are we? This first page pretty much tells you [0:17:58, 0:17:59]: So [0:18:00, 0:18:20]: how bills are passed through two chambers of the Georgia General Assembly. So you know you have the Senate side, you have the House side, and then of course you have the governor. Typically what happens bills are introduced in either two forms, as a general bill or a local bill. [0:18:20, 0:18:37]: And in most instances, a bill would typically have a companion bill in the opposite chamber. And that's what we're going to talk about tonight. So the first slide gives you an idea of the process overall. [0:18:39, 0:18:55]: So now with that being said, what I would like for you to keep in mind is that on each side of the chamber you had bills. So on the Senate side, you had 262, which is a deannexation bill. [0:18:56, 0:19:08]: On the house side is companion. Deannexation bill was 638. Everybody with me? Deannexation, Senate 262, House 638. [0:19:09, 0:19:14]: The incorporation bill on the Senate site was 263. [0:19:14, 0:19:34]: Its companion bill on the house side was 639. So your incorporation bills was 263, right, and 639. So now let's talk about the two DNA two deannexation bills. Because when you guys heard that something was moving pretty fast. [0:19:34, 0:19:39]: Yes, it was a reference to de-annexation. [0:19:41, 0:19:42]: I'm gonna go to the next slide. [0:19:46, 0:19:49]: So let's talk about 638. [0:19:50, 0:19:56]: And two sixty two specifically. As I mentioned to you, a bill could be either local [0:19:56, 0:19:58]: Or it could be general. [0:19:58, 0:20:01]: Typically when a bill is local [0:20:02, 0:20:07]: It means that the bill is germane to a particular city. [0:20:08, 0:20:26]: So therefore someone can come in and say, you know, I want this for Stockbridge and this particular rule only applies to Stockbridge and it doesn't apply to any other city in the state of Georgia. And typically when you see local bills, that's typically what you will see. [0:20:27, 0:20:29]: Well we have an anomaly here. [0:20:29, 0:20:32]: In order for a bill to be local [0:20:32, 0:20:34]: The house rules say [0:20:35, 0:20:42]: All you need is five signatures from five members of your county delegation. [0:20:43, 0:21:03]: As you know, your delegation is made up, I think, nine or ten folks who touched some aspect of Henry County. So it only took five of them to sign a bill to make it local. Now, what is odd about this bill is [0:21:03, 0:21:12]: Is that in this particular case, you had five members from the Henry County delegation who chose to make this a local bill. [0:21:13, 0:21:19]: This is an anomaly to every other city that has been incorporated in the state of Georgia. [0:21:19, 0:21:39]: because they all were general bills. Now the reason why they probably took this route is because when you make it a local bill, it bypasses the traditional committee process, which we will talk about later. So typically when you get five signatures, one day within a matter of two days, it could be [0:21:39, 0:21:41]: be on the floor for a full vote. [0:21:42, 0:21:49]: because it bypasses subcommittees and committees, it goes directly on the consent calendar, and then it's voted on. [0:21:50, 0:21:59]: That's what happened with the de-indexation bills. And if you look at this page, it walks you through the process of what happened. [0:22:00, 0:22:08]: The community from Eagles Landing requested their delegation members to introduce a bill. They went to the Legislative Council. They drafted it. [0:22:08, 0:22:28]: Because it was a local bill, it automatically went on the consent calendar, and then it moved forward for a vote. And so there was not a whole lot of say-so about it. The respect of the rules of the house. If someone is going to do it local, then that's typically the process. The problem with that though is that [0:22:28, 0:22:46]: that that local bill is not just germane to Stockbridge. What is happening in terms of de-annexation affects every city in the state of Georgia, all 536. So therefore in an essence it is not a local bill, it is a general bill. [0:22:47, 0:22:59]: In all prior cases of all ten cities that were incorporated since Sandy Springs, all ten incorporated from unincorporated areas of the county. [0:23:00, 0:23:20]: Not in any instance did Sandy Springs, Johns Creek, Tucker, City of South Fulton go into an existing city, de-annex part of it to create itself. So this is not local, because what this means that it could be Stockbridge today, it could be Buckhead tomorrow. It could be [0:23:20, 0:23:40]: Savannah two weeks from now. So therefore it really should have been a general bill, but it was introduced as a local bill. So what's the status on these two local bills? What happens? They're signed by signatures, right? Goes to the floor, vote, and it's done. [0:23:40, 0:23:40]: Mm. [0:23:41, 0:23:47]: So let's talk about the traditional way of how most cities actually come into existence. [0:23:51, 0:23:55]: She's been trying to learn how to work this here, not that way. [0:23:57, 0:23:58]: That's the same. [0:24:01, 0:24:05]: If you go to your page, uh page six. [0:24:07, 0:24:13]: That is going to give you the name of the five signers of the local bill. [0:24:13, 0:24:23]: Mr. Dale Rutledge, Andrew Welch, Brian Strickland, Kerry Matthias, David Knight, and Jeff Cobell. [0:24:23, 0:24:34]: They were the five members from the Henry County delegation that gave their signatures. And unfortunately about this, the people who sign your bill don't necessarily have to live in your city. [0:24:34, 0:24:53]: And that's one of the things that, you know, this process allows. They can sign bills to impact you when they don't even have to live there, nor do they have to represent you. They only have to represent a portion of Henry County to be a part of the delegation which allows you to introduce a bill. [0:24:55, 0:25:05]: Now let's talk about House Bill 639. Now this is the traditional route that Sandy Springs, Tucker, City of South Fulton all use to become a city. [0:25:06, 0:25:16]: Whenever a community wants to incorporate, the first committee that it goes to is the Governmental Affairs Committee. [0:25:17, 0:25:23]: That's on the house side. And then typically they will send it down to a subcommittee. [0:25:24, 0:25:26]: And that subcommittee we have a hearing. [0:25:27, 0:25:30]: from pros and cons as to why your city should exist. [0:25:31, 0:25:44]: And then if it passes the subcommittee, it goes back to the full committee, which is the government affairs committee, and then they take a vote. And then if they take a vote and it passes, then it is eligible to go before the rules committee. [0:25:45, 0:25:53]: for a vote. And if it passed the rules committee, at that point in time it goes to the full floor for a house vote. [0:25:53, 0:26:13]: So these are the steps. Introduce a bill, go to a committee, committee sends it to a subcommittee, subcommittee sends it back up to the committee, committee sends it to the rules committee, rules committee sends it to the floor for a full vote. And after it's a full vote, then it passes. The great thing about the wonderful and wise group of [0:26:13, 0:26:21]: of the rules committee. When this particular bill came before rules committee, which is Bill 639, it never made the rules calendar. [0:26:22, 0:26:24]: It never was given a hearing. [0:26:25, 0:26:26]: And it was never considered. [0:26:27, 0:26:30]: So therefore it did not cross over to the Senate. [0:26:31, 0:26:33]: Y'all can give that a clap. Come on, let him in. [0:26:36, 0:26:37]: Ciao. [0:26:37, 0:26:41]: Because it never passed the house. [0:26:41, 0:26:48]: The only bill that crossed over to the Senate was the which bill? They would they're dealt with what? [0:26:49, 0:27:09]: De-annexation. Okay? So you have a de-annexation bill sitting in the Senate from the House with no companion bill of incorporation. So it sits there alone. And typically that means that you don't have anything at this point happening on the Senate side because it does not have a [0:27:09, 0:27:29]: companion bill to be associated with. If you read the bills and all of them are on the line on the website, you they're proposing to de-annex to incorporate or add to something else. Well if you de-annex you got to have something to attach it to. The House never sent anything [0:27:29, 0:27:34]: over for the de-annexation portion to be attached to. So that's why it sits by itself. [0:27:38, 0:27:58]: So now we move to what the Senate did. So everybody with me, we followed how it all happened in the House, right? So now in the opposite chamber, which is the Senate, you have the same process. However, the Senate rules for them are a little bit different. The Senate rules do not have what they call [0:27:58, 0:28:00]: [1681.5, 1689.1]: So when the Senate looked at the bills that crossed over, they treated them both as general bills. [0:28:09, 0:28:28]: and decided to hear them together because unlike on the House side, the general bills go to one committee and the annexation goes to another, on the Senate side, because they don't have local bills, they both went to the same committee, which was the slogo committee. [0:28:28, 0:28:30]: So [0:28:31, 0:28:45]: Both of these bills set before the slogo committee. It was on again, off again, on again, off again, on again, off again. So finally when they had a hearing, here's the process of what happened to 262. [0:28:47, 0:28:53]: It was initially assigned to the Senate Local Government Option Operations Committee with the slogo, and it passed out. [0:28:54, 0:29:08]: Then it was assigned to the rules committee and it passed. And I need for you to remember that at each level when it these bills passed on the Senate side, they were very iffy. Nobody knew exactly how these were going to go. [0:29:08, 0:29:14]: So then it went to a full Senate vote and on the deannexation. [0:29:15, 0:29:17]: It fail by one vote. [0:29:18, 0:29:21]: On the incorporation, it fell by two. [0:29:22, 0:29:27]: And at that point in time, both bills from the Senate [0:29:27, 0:29:36]: were then allowed to cross over to the House because March the 28th was the crossover date. [0:29:36, 0:29:37]: Okay. [0:29:38, 0:29:41]: The same thing applied to 263. [0:29:42, 0:29:43]: However [0:29:44, 0:29:49]: Immediately after the bills crossed over, this is where it got real interesting. [0:29:49, 0:30:02]: Because typically when bills cross over, they really don't hear them until actually the crossover date, which is at the March 20, uh February 28th, so March 1, you start here having hearings. [0:30:02, 0:30:04]: Immediately we saw [0:30:06, 0:30:17]: the Senate Bill two sixty three appear before the intergovernmental before the government affairs committee, which was kind of unusual. And so when we went down to [0:30:18, 0:30:19]: The hearing [0:30:20, 0:30:23]: What the hearing was about was a substitute [0:30:23, 0:30:31]: amendment to Senate Bill 263 as it related to homestead exemption. [0:30:32, 0:30:39]: And what they were asking was that the homestead exemption language that was originally a part [0:30:40, 0:30:43]: of the bill that crossed over from the Senate. [0:30:43, 0:30:47]: that was in that be removed from the bill. [0:30:48, 0:30:50]: And at that point in time. [0:30:51, 0:30:59]: The government affairs committee allowed them to remove the homestead exemption information from the bill. [0:31:00, 0:31:05]: It still has to go to the rules and then it still has to go back to the Senate. [0:31:05, 0:31:09]: Because typically when the bills don't agree. [0:31:09, 0:31:28]: When you start amending each other's bills, then it has to go back to the original house where it originated from, and then that chamber has to agree or disagree to your amendments, and in many instances they have to have what what they call a conference, okay? [0:31:29, 0:31:30]: So [0:31:30, 0:31:41]: What has occurred since that time was that members of the General Assembly raised the constitutional issue with the bill 262. [0:31:42, 0:31:49]: For all of the ten bills that passed from Sandy Springs to South Fulton and Stone Crest last year. [0:31:50, 0:32:10]: Every single bill for incorporation had homestead language. And the reason homestead language was there, as well as your ability to tax yourself, is so that when a city, if they choose to tax themselves, will be able to give you an exemption at the [0:32:09, 0:32:29]: municipal level as well as at the county level. Everybody's with me? Okay. So no other city incorporated without having homestead because in every instant the General Assembly knew that new cities were going to have to have city property taxes in order [0:32:29, 0:32:39]: to operate thereby giving them homestead exemptions so that they could give those exemptions at the municipal level to their residents. Everybody's with me. [0:32:40, 0:32:57]: However, a challenge was raised as to the validity of 263 as it crossed over and whether or not it crossed over in its proper form because all the other cities required a two-third vote. [0:32:57, 0:33:03]: in order for the bill to pass. This bill lacked [0:33:03, 0:33:21]: Two-thirds. Remember, it passed by a simple majority. On one shy one vote, on the other one, Shy two. So therefore, it never left the Senate in the proper form in which a two-thirds vote was required. [0:33:22, 0:33:30]: The Legislative Council for the General Assembly has done a letter that basically said, in essence, when that bill left. [0:33:31, 0:33:41]: the Senate Chamber, it should have left with a two-third vote's passage and if it didn't, it did not cross properly. [0:33:42, 0:34:00]: So what does that mean? That means we're gonna have to wait and see. Right? Because right now, in essence, you actually have action on a bill on the House side that is really not a valid bill because it did not cross over properly in the form which it should have with a two-thirds vote. [0:34:01, 0:34:21]: So where we are now on the Senate side, you're not going to see anything because it doesn't have a companion bill to connect it to. The two de-annexation bills have both passed because five people signed for it to be a local bill, would allow it to move quickly, both of them. So they're in what they call the [0:34:21, 0:34:41]: Hopper, which means that if 263, which is the only thing left, should come out and move through the process and go back to the Senate and all those things, which were to give it a companion bill, then that and that bill could then go to the governor for him to take action. And his choices are these to sign [0:34:41, 0:34:50]: To veto or to not sign. A no sign means that the bill will in essence become law. [0:34:50, 0:34:53]: after forty days. So therefore [0:34:54, 0:35:14]: Right. What I mean by signature, somebody say what does that mean? That means that if he doesn't sign it, he has the option to sign bills with a signature. He can veto it or he can do nothing, but that means a no sign. The state statute says that all bills which have he does nothing to automatically become law. [0:35:14, 0:35:18]: After 40 days. That's how it's written in the state of Georgia. [0:35:19, 0:35:39]: So right now everyone has been put on notice about the constitutional challenge. We're waiting for uh the House to decide whether or not they want to take any further actions on 263, and the Senate has been on notice to decide whether or not what they want to do with an unconstitutional bill. [0:35:39, 0:35:59]: When it comes back to them, if it comes back to them, so therefore we would have to see. We have approximately five legislative days left, and then the session is over. So therefore we will have to watch for the next five days to see whether or not there's any movement in the House, and then we [0:35:59, 0:36:05]: We have to watch and see if there is any movement in the House, what the Senate will do, and whether or not [0:36:05, 0:36:10]: it goes anywhere. Now what are the impacts on you as residents? [0:36:12, 0:36:16]: As you guys know, you do not have a city property tax. [0:36:16, 0:36:24]: And for those of you who that who really want the details, if you go to the city's website, you will find all of [0:36:24, 0:36:44]: the areas in which the city of Stockbridge are impacted. But let me just say this. This is such an anomaly and has never been done in the state of Georgia ever. And so therefore a lot of legislators are a little nervous and so because they understand that this is not just about Stockbridge, but this is about Savannah. [0:36:45, 0:36:47]: I mean this is about Atlanta. [0:36:48, 0:36:50]: This is about Marietta. [0:36:50, 0:36:52]: This is about Deloniga. [0:36:53, 0:37:13]: This is about any city that exists today that will could be impacted by this. Now people say how. Because I've seen various comments that say, you know, cities don't have bond ratings really, or cities should not be concerned because it doesn't impact them. [0:37:13, 0:37:24]: This building in most cities build buildings like this, they do your streets, they normally do it through bonds, right? [0:37:25, 0:37:45]: If your boundaries are not stable, and if the group of individuals that contribute to paying off your debt is not stable, then your ability to borrow money is impacted. So we had an independent bond firm, not on our payroll. [0:37:45, 0:38:05]: We just asked them to do an analysis of what this would do based on bonding. And their their findings was this. Georgia as a whole would lose business, would just do a automatic drop because no city would be able to borrow money. [0:38:05, 0:38:16]: Because in terms of bonds, no one would want to take the risk of saying that you have a hundred people today to deal with the debt, but tomorrow you may have twenty people. [0:38:17, 0:38:32]: And so therefore the ability to pay off the debt is the question that arises, and that's why bonding becomes an issue, not only for Stockbridge, but also for Atlanta, which is the the hub of the state of Georgia. [0:38:33, 0:38:41]: We don't have a property tax. So therefore, because 50% of the city of Stockbridge is gone. [0:38:42, 0:38:46]: then guess who has to pay off this building? [0:38:48, 0:38:50]: Those of you that are left. [0:38:51, 0:38:54]: So our argument has been for the folks. [0:38:54, 0:38:56]: Of Eagles Landing that want to create a city. [0:38:57, 0:39:00]: If you want to take 50%, then take 50% of the debt. [0:39:01, 0:39:02]: Right. [0:39:03, 0:39:09]: Don't take the people and leave the debt on those that are left behind. [0:39:10, 0:39:26]: From an economic perspective, even though they're alleging by their own words that the demographics has changed, so therefore economic development can't come to Stockbridge, it's our belief that an imaginary line is not going to determine whether or not Papados come. [0:39:27, 0:39:29]: Or not. [0:39:29, 0:39:30]: Okay. [0:39:30, 0:39:38]: What does impact us from an economic perspective is that your housing values change. [0:39:38, 0:39:58]: Because you're losing 50% of your population, you're leaving a certain population left to pay off the debt. So therefore, how many people want to move to a city in which you already got debt? They don't want to come and inherit debt of those that left, right? So from an economic perspective, it will impact you. [0:39:58, 0:40:16]: and everyone in Stockbridge. We have current contractual obligations on this building and of course to our water sewer. We talked about the impacting on the bonding capacity. We talked about how it impacts every other city in the state of Georgia and needless to say that it's polarizing. [0:40:16, 0:40:26]: You know, at the last town hall meeting, we had people to stand up and say that on flipping road, that based on their proposal, the church is on one side and the cemetery is on the other. [0:40:27, 0:40:39]: So therefore, it becomes polarized because this proposal chooses to separate communities from each other. In two years, Stockbridge will be 100 years old. [0:40:39, 0:40:42]: It is the birthplace of Daddy King. [0:40:43, 0:41:03]: And a hundred years means something because a lot of cities are not a hundred years old yet. And so this proposal would be a setback when they start saying we want to revise the charter for the city of Stockbridge when generations after generations were born here, lived here, died here with another generation. And so that is how [0:41:03, 0:41:08]: how we will be impacted. Now let's talk about in terms of what it is we need for you to do. [0:41:10, 0:41:30]: The opposition has said that the people want to go into a new city. And maybe some of them are here tonight and maybe they can tell us or answer some questions, but we haven't been able to find that groundswell of individuals who [0:41:30, 0:41:50]: say they want to leave. And so but they told people at the General Assembly that they had been getting all these calls and that people really wanted to be their own city. And when we asked well what do you have to show for and it was like well that's just what they said. So what we need for you to do [0:41:50, 0:41:52]: is to sign a petition. [0:41:52, 0:41:58]: Because rather than us telling them what we think, we want to prove to them what we know. [0:41:59, 0:42:10]: We want to be able to take to the General Assembly all of your names that basically say that you object to this de-annexation and the 50%. [0:42:11, 0:42:31]: of of Saga Ridge property and the destruction of our city as a whole. So we need for you one to do your own petition if you haven't done that and you can do that online. The second thing we need for you to do is that we have a walking list that we need many of you to walk and get petitions for us. [0:42:31, 0:42:31]: Yeah. [0:42:31, 0:42:45]: so that we can attach those petitions with yours so that we can take down to the gold dome. And when you leave here there's a table outside and in at the table you will get a pack of petitions. [0:42:46, 0:43:00]: door hangers and all the goodies that you need to actually go door to door to get petitions and to leave them information. Now the bad news is for most of you your subdivisions were probably taken last week. [0:43:01, 0:43:18]: The good news is you get to meet some new folks. So we're going to need for you to actually canvass those neighborhoods that are left out there that needs to be canvassed. The other thing that we need for you to do in your package, if you turn to page 21. [0:43:23, 0:43:33]: When you go to our website, it's going to give you a list and email address of every single person in the house. Okay? [0:43:34, 0:43:36]: We need you to email them. [0:43:37, 0:43:57]: Now some of you say, well, would a call be better? The problem with the calls is that if you've been over there, they have like one person to like 10 legislators, right? So you got one person, she's answering the phone call for 10 people. So you know while you're calling in, she'll say, thank you for calling, Congressman Smith Scott. [0:43:57, 0:44:06]: Thank you for calling Congressman Douglas. Thank you for calling Congress. I mean, I mean shouldn't just say thank you, but because she is a state employee. [0:44:07, 0:44:17]: She's not hired by an individual's legislator. We're not quite sure that they would ever know that you call. You get my point? But one thing that we do know, they do read their emails. [0:44:18, 0:44:29]: Because they these are the emails that they give to their constituents so that they can email them their concerns. So we're asking that you email every member. [0:44:30, 0:44:48]: of the House of Representatives and tell them no movement on this bill and tell them we don't want it to see the light of day. And however you want to say it in your own voice, we need for them to know that we do not want this to happen. Okay? [0:44:49, 0:44:50]: Then we need for you [0:44:51, 0:44:55]: to actually go and visit on the website. [0:44:56, 0:44:58]: The the link to the governor's office. [0:44:59, 0:45:02]: And your information to him needs to be vetoed. [0:45:02, 0:45:05]: If any of these come out, we want you to veto it. [0:45:05, 0:45:13]: And when you go to the Senate side, all of the Senate emails are there as well, as well as the Lieutenant Governor. [0:45:14, 0:45:18]: We need for you to email them and say no to this bill. [0:45:19, 0:45:32]: That is where you can help us individually and also pass this information to all of your neighbors so that they will do the same thing. I think we can't say enough. [0:45:33, 0:45:49]: how concerned we are about what is happening. Initially when this happened everybody kind of laughed. I mean even people under Goldone would say this is not going to get any traction. I mean who in their right mind would actually think about taking land from a sovereign [0:45:50, 0:46:08]: city. Stockbridge is a sovereign community that the Georgia General Assembly would bypass the rights of US citizens and this governing body and say we're going to take away your right as a sovereign entity and we will decide. [0:46:09, 0:46:13]: What we're going to do with your city and your legacy. [0:46:14, 0:46:16]: We we thought it was a joke. [0:46:16, 0:46:34]: But now we know it could be a reality, and we're going to have to press in with everything we have as a community collectively together to make sure. I have said from day one, I've been through this eight times, that if the people of Eagles Landing want to be a city, [0:46:34, 0:46:42]: Do it like the one I just created, the city of South Fulton. Go behind into unincorporated Henry County. [0:46:43, 0:46:45]: Draw you a boundary. [0:46:45, 0:46:56]: create you a city and you can join Sandy Springs, Johns Creek, Tucker, Brookhaven, Stone Crest, everybody else. But do it the right way. [0:46:57, 0:47:15]: Do it the way the law has allowed cities to incorporate. Do not change the laws of the state of this Georgia that opens Pandora's box and will have cities pitted against each other and communities destroyed because a group of citizens. [0:47:15, 0:47:18]: decided they don't like you today. [0:47:18, 0:47:20]: But they might not like you tomorrow. [0:47:21, 0:47:28]: and can hop from city to city to city until no cities exist. [0:47:29, 0:47:32]: The portion on DNXation, and I'm going to end with this. [0:47:32, 0:47:44]: Someone has asked, well, what if the governor goes ahead and signs the deannexation bills? That means that all of you will be without a home for three years. [0:47:47, 0:47:56]: I know that would get you. That means that you'll be out there in the wilderness because you would have been de-annexed without a place to go. [0:47:58, 0:48:06]: That's why we're hoping that he does not until he has something to attach it to. [0:48:07, 0:48:17]: And so at this point, I think you all have done uh questions. If you have filled them out, would you raise your hand and we will collect them? [0:48:19, 0:48:28]: All right everyone, thank you so much. What a great presentation. There was a lot of information included, but we let's give a round of applause. Let's Camilla Moore. [0:48:33, 0:48:53]: We're interested in getting you the facts. And you have questions, we have answers. We're going to answer as many as we can tonight. But I know Camilla mentioned it. Also, Mr. Knighton, do visit our website because it's a very engaging website. We're keeping the conversation going. We're updating the website daily. They're new information coming out. This is an ongoing [0:48:53, 0:49:13]: Legislative process and it is not over. Okay, it is not over. We don't want anyone to use fear or intimidation. This is far from over. Our first question: Will the citizens have a chance to vote at large? Everyone. No, and I think this has been our argument under the Gold On because the other side said. [0:49:13, 0:49:33]: All we want you to do is to give us the right to vote. Now, that is something that Sandy Springs said, that is something that Tucker said, that is something that Stonecrest in the city of South Fulton said. We said, give us the right to vote, but the we were unincorporated in. [0:49:33, 0:49:43]: areas. What this bill does, it only allows 50% of Stockbridge to vote. Those people that we call in the bubble. [0:49:43, 0:49:49]: But the people that are left behind who are gonna have to pay off this building and the bond debt [0:49:49, 0:49:52]: The bill says you have no voice. [0:49:52, 0:49:54]: You don't get a right to vote. [0:49:55, 0:50:15]: You don't get a right to say no because the 50% of the people that you've taken from my city leaves a burden, a financial burden on me, and therefore I should have a voice. They have said you will not have a voice. And if the bill is passed today, only those individuals [0:50:15, 0:50:17]: in the bubble will be allowed to vote. [0:50:19, 0:50:32]: Camilla, our next question is from a concerned citizen. Uh he or she says, I hope this deannexation does not pass. But how much of the current debt will this new proposed city take away with them? Zero. [0:50:40, 0:50:45]: The next question from a concerned citizen. Will the value of my house go down if this passes? [0:50:46, 0:51:06]: Well absolutely, because the remaining folks are the only folks left to pay the debt. So who wants to come by your house, right? When you put it up for sale, right? And everybody know that your value is attached to comps, right? I mean the house around the corner sells for a certain amount of money, man, that increases your assessed value. [0:51:06, 0:51:24]: But you won't be selling any houses because no one wants to come into a community that they have to pick up the debt that someone else has left. Left. So yes, that will be an indirect impact on your property values. Another concern citizen asks, what is the official position of the Henry County Board of Commissioners? [0:51:25, 0:51:27]: Uh I think they've uh [0:51:28, 0:51:48]: I think they took a vote and I think in the newspaper you can find that article. I think their vote was that they're neutral, if I'm not mistaken. That is the vote that they took as a body. However, I think there were two commissioners, two uh two commissioners that actually spoke out uh in support of of Stockbridge, I think within the last two or three [0:51:48, 0:52:08]: weeks but in terms of a board position, it's my understanding that their legal counsel for the county advised them that they need to be neutral and that is their positions, which is very atypical. I mean we wish Fulton County had been neutral when we was trying to incorporate my God, we were fighting them day and night and every day they were talking about why we shouldn't become a city. [0:52:08, 0:52:13]: So this is the first time I've ever seen a county silent on this type of issue. [0:52:13, 0:52:16]: Thank you. One one second. [0:52:16, 0:52:36]: Um just just I think it is um just to um get an understanding, fifty percent of our tax base, commercial base, is being taken away. Nine thousand of the citizens of Stockbridge would would only only nine thousand out of the twenty seven, twenty eight thousand [0:52:36, 0:52:39]: thousand we have would have the right to vote. [0:52:40, 0:53:00]: Okay? So ev it affects all of us, but only nine thousand will have the right to vote. And in addition to that, uh when it comes down to the uh commissioners, they did take us uh the their attorney asked them to remain neutral. However, we did have two commissioners who uh [0:53:00, 0:53:20]: Commissioner Bruce Holmes who is against it altogether, um and he's in District Five, and Commissioner D. Clemens who stated that she is against deannexation of any city to form another city. And everyone else stated that they would remain neutral at that time. But other comments, but [0:53:19, 0:53:22]: they wanted to let you I mean they did speak out. [0:53:25, 0:53:33]: Excuse me, excuse me. Uh to add to that in general is that the Henry County delegation represents you. [0:53:33, 0:53:51]: Okay. You have to ask yourself how is it that can be neutral when a city of this site could be broken in half? As well, my own personal position is that you should be calling those representatives asking them why they're not taking a position in such a vital issue. [0:53:53, 0:53:54]: Okay, next question. Okay. [0:53:55, 0:53:56]: Another city. [0:53:56, 0:54:16]: Go ahead, go ahead. If you have any questions, we're asking that you please use this the information, the screen card, and we're gonna get to those. We're gonna use the cards tonight, sir, just for the interest of time, because thank you. This way everyone can get out. If you're interested in speaking with any of your elected officials, you can do that at the conclusion once it ends. So we always encourage. [0:54:16, 0:54:17]: Yeah. [0:54:18, 0:54:28]: N next question, Shayna. Okay, sir. Sir, we're gonna go ahead with another interested citizen. Said has it been determined if the homestead exemption will last if this passes? [0:54:29, 0:54:38]: For for who? City of Stockbridge. Well okay, let me explain how homestead exemption works and I think s some folks on the other side has are a little bit confused. [0:54:40, 0:55:00]: Remember I mentioned that all the other cities when they incorporated two things that they gave cities the right to do. One, to tax yourself, two, to have a homestead exemption. Now for those of you who've been around here a long time, there was a time in which Stockbridge had what? Property taxes. [0:55:00, 0:55:05]: They didn't have them at one time because at that point in time [0:55:05, 0:55:15]: they were allowed to use the full strength of their charter and institute a property tax. However, as the commercial base grew, [0:55:15, 0:55:35]: And the city became more and more financially stable, the powers that be decided, at that point in time, there was no longer a need to have a property tax, so therefore there was not a need for them to apply the homestead exemption because they weren't taxing you. Does that make sense? Now that's for a city that's a hundred. [0:55:35, 0:55:36]: [3337.8, 3354.8]: a hundred years old. Cities who are just starting up, they don't have that luxury. Because you're going to have to pay for a city manager, you're going to have to pay to operate, you're going to have to pay rent light and all those things. So therefore that's why in every instance in the past they've given you those two options. [0:55:56, 0:56:16]: This question comes from a local business owner in the city of Stockbridge. How will businesses that remain in the city, if this proposal goes through, how will we be impacted? Well, but they say taxes, taxes, taxes, right? I mean, um, I mean that's it at the end of the day. I mean services have to be paid for, right? [0:56:16, 0:56:36]: I mean the delivery and demand doesn't decrease. I mean it's always going to be a demand there for services. So at the end of the day, none of us will be better off because in order to compensate for the businesses that are left. Now mind you, they're they cherry-picked businesses. [0:56:36, 0:56:50]: businesses in Stockbridge to help them thrive. So when you take though that economic factor that we have that allows you to have no property tax, again those that are left are gonna have to pick up that burden and and use of this through taxation. [0:56:52, 0:57:03]: The next question from a citizen said, if this proposal does pass, and emphasis, I don't hope I hope it doesn't, rather, but would Stockbridge have the authority to annex adjacent unincorporated properties? [0:57:05, 0:57:06]: I mean what's gonna be left? [0:57:07, 0:57:27]: I mean I think the only thing left would be the island, as most of you know, that's uh the northern part of Stockbridge, which they tried to have the legislator give us without asking those people that they want to be in Stockbridge. Um and that's about it, because remember we almost landlocked ourselves. And basically if Eagles Landing [0:57:27, 0:57:32]: comes in and takes 50%, where can we go south? We can, right? [0:57:33, 0:57:53]: And we're sitting right here on the Clayton County line, right? So therefore this really stagnates the ability of Stockbridge to grow. And that's why in every other instance, when Stone Crest came on board, the General Assembly said, you're too large. We need for you to pull back. So Decatur and these other cities have room [0:57:53, 0:58:07]: to grow and that's typically what you see. They don't like for you to landlock another city without giving them the potential to do just that. And what this bill does, it would deny Stockbridge the opportunity to do just that. [0:58:09, 0:58:11]: Okay, I have a question, sir. Let me do something. [0:58:12, 0:58:32]: If you don't mind, let me just say this to you. You know, on that question, if this happens, then if you're talking about other annexations that we would have to look at, this council would have to decide that through through conversation with you. Okay? So it's it's uh I understand her explanation and everything, but that's something we would look at. Now, granted, I would say strategically we haven't looked at that. [0:58:32, 0:58:52]: Because we're prayerful and we know that we're going to win this particular battle. But good question, but something that we would have to discuss. And obviously as we discuss that, you'll know that and see that and you'll have interaction with us about it. Okay? Thank you. And on the portions that they gave us, uh right now, if you look at our map over there, we're landlocked. If um [0:58:52, 0:59:12]: If Eagle landings occur. You see that big gap in the middle of the map? That's pretty much all we have left because we'll be landlocked. And so Marin Council can decide if they want to take in those folks, but those folks would have to ask to come in. I mean we do believe in people asking. This myth about Stockbridge doing a land grow [0:59:12, 0:59:31]: grab and that all of a sudden all the folks in Eagles Landing were forced to come into Stockbridge. People, it is not true. Eagles Landing was brought into Stockbridge. Stockbridge made Eagles Landing. Eagles Landing did not make Stock Bridge. Let's be clear. Okay [0:59:32, 0:59:34]: All the properties. [0:59:34, 0:59:42]: of Eagles Landing and all those subdivisions, Winslow and all of those, were brought in by the developer. [0:59:43, 1:00:03]: The country club got in Stockbridge because they wanted to sell alcohol. And Henry County was dry. So Stockbridge didn't do a massive land grab. We have posted all of the minutes on annexation on the website. So don't take it just by word of mouth. Go read the minutes for yourself. [1:00:02, 1:00:16]: yourself and you will see how certain people annexed certain parcels to get to certain parcels because those folks wanted to come in for a certain reason. And now that the same people [1:00:16, 1:00:29]: who did all the legal work and did all the other stuff to bring them into Stockbridge are the same people who now want to undo their work and create another city. [1:00:31, 1:00:33]: The feasibility study [1:00:33, 1:00:53]: That they tried to give us most of it, if you go up to the website, you're going to see the feasibility study in terms of the impact on Stockbridge. And the piece that they tried to give us, George, you UGA came back and said we'll be worse off by taking that. They called themselves giving us an equal swap, where there was no such thing. [1:00:53, 1:01:02]: thing. Those parcels cause a greater demand for the city of Stockbridge because most of those parcels are residential. [1:01:03, 1:01:06]: So they're taking a whole lot of commercial. [1:01:06, 1:01:15]: that gives them money with low overhead and what they want to give us was a bunch of residential that demands a lot of delivery of services. [1:01:17, 1:01:27]: Another question is from someone who is asking why and who is behind this proposed city of Eagle Eagles Landing rather and is this a personal vendetta? [1:01:28, 1:01:48]: You know what? I I wasn't I I don't know about the person vendetta, but for those of you who have been here, I I gave you the names on page six. So you probably know a l a whole lot more about those five folks, probably than I do. And I think a lot of you know the history of a lot of these folks. So, you know, I think it kind of speaks for itself. [1:01:48, 1:01:48]: Oh. [1:01:52, 1:01:58]: Okay. The next question is, um, if this goes through, wouldn't property taxes go up for everyone in the county? [1:01:59, 1:02:18]: Well well no. Well I can't say that. I just say that the more they like the property taxes in two areas are gonna go up. The new proposed City of Eagles Landing, because they're gonna have to pay some bills, okay? And the existing stop risk that's left because we're gonna have to pay some bills too. [1:02:20, 1:02:38]: Another citizen saying I've heard a lot in the news lately um about the city of Stockbridge and this new proposed city. Uh they're saying that we have eighty million dollars in surplus and we wouldn't be hurt. Is this true and please explain how this works? No it's not true. Okay, so the [1:02:39, 1:02:53]: Okay, th th this is this is kinda th but you know what's fascinating about this? You have all of these smart people that are trying to create this city and they don't know the difference between assets and what's in the bank. [1:02:53, 1:02:57]: So they looked at the assets of this building. [1:02:57, 1:03:00]: And they looked at all of the city's assets and they say [1:03:01, 1:03:21]: That's money in the bank. Now you and I both know that your house has a value, right? Now is that sitting in the bank? Because you still paying a mortgage, right? Okay, but their deduction was because they took all of our assets, which they equated to being 80 million dollars, they say we got money. [1:03:21, 1:03:41]: money in the bank. Right. Yes. There was something a one-page sheet sheet that was floating around the Capitol last week, I believe it was, that referenced a number of different things with respect to Stockbridge's financial position. Let me say one thing. Stockbridge has a very sound financial position in that our operating [1:03:41, 1:03:48]: budget is about nine and a half million dollars and yet we have fifteen million dollars in the bank and that ratio is excellent. Now the bond issue [1:03:55, 1:04:01]: Of course. And of course our concern here is with the bond issue as uh Camilla uh articulated earlier. [1:04:01, 1:04:21]: This one page sheet did not have any references or sources. Okay? The$80 million referenced, you can look at our comprehensive annual financial report of CAFER in your audit.$80 million is our net position. And again, that's mostly buildings, properties, things that we own. That doesn't impact our day-to-day operations. [1:04:21, 1:04:41]: And so that$80 million really is not a sound figure to use at all. And so that is incorrect. And obviously, if someone is willing to take 50% of your uh commercial tax base away, your revenue away, that'll have a devastating impact then on us. I will also mention again, as referenced earlier, on our website. [1:04:41, 1:04:42]: Right. [1:04:42, 1:04:54]: There's a University of Georgia, a Carl Vincent Institute report, which is extremely detailed. It lays out everything with respect to Stockbridge's financial position and how this will impact us if it is passed. [1:04:56, 1:05:11]: Another question um and concern. First she starts off with a concern I I'm not sure why they want to devise Stockbridge. Uh please answer this. Did the group who's proposing this new city ever come to sit down and express their concerns? [1:05:12, 1:05:32]: I'll let these folks say. No, they have not. They have not um come to us. We actually went to them. I believe Mr. Uh Mayor Pro Tem Ford at the time, now Mayor Ford um had asked that we sit down and they told us that that was not the time. [1:05:32, 1:05:39]: and they never did have another time. Um they've never come to us, they never gave us notice. Um no. [1:05:40, 1:05:43]: Um let me s let me say this though real quick. [1:05:44, 1:06:04]: We individually, some of us did reach out to some of the uh uh legislative uh uh people that was introducing this bill, like Andy Welch, uh Brian Strickland. We reached out to these people that was introducing these bills because if if they wasn't gonna talk to us on the other side, maybe the people, the delegates that was that was introducing these [1:06:04, 1:06:08]: these bills were talked to us and I I can say we was getting nowhere with them also. [1:06:10, 1:06:15]: Let me add to that also. Um I served on the council [1:06:15, 1:06:30]: six five or four years ago, the only time that the Eagles Land and Homeowners Association, which is a a group of all of those neighborhoods in that particular area, that came to this council [1:06:30, 1:06:33]: And ask for anything one time. [1:06:33, 1:06:42]: They came one time and asked this municipality to help them finance the tower. Um, what's the proper name for that? [1:06:42, 1:06:47]: Eagles Landing Eagles Landing Monument Park. Monument Park. [1:06:47, 1:06:58]: They came one time and asked us to assist them in financing that. And we did. And I'm ashamed to say how much we actually provided for that. [1:06:58, 1:07:10]: But that's the only time they came and asked us for anything and we obliged. And that was over a hundred thousand dollars. And I'm just gonna say that. So I'm just saying. [1:07:11, 1:07:14]: It's not like they came and we refused. [1:07:15, 1:07:16]: They came. [1:07:17, 1:07:21]: And we obliged one time only. [1:07:21, 1:07:41]: And let me just add oh I'm sorry. I I would just like to add this. And and I want to add this caveat right now. I I don't know how many of you are out there live in the Eagles Landing area. I do. And let me tell you that everybody that lives in the Eagles Landing area is not the enemy. They're just like me. They're clueless to me. [1:07:41, 1:08:01]: To what has happened, and they're asking the same questions that you are. So I don't want this to divide the city in that you think that the people in the Eagles Landing area, because I talk to them every day, they're not for this, and they're at scratching their head too. So they are not the enemy. Let's stay focused on the five individuals. [1:08:01, 1:08:21]: Individuals who don't live in Stockbridge that are are behind this and a well connected group. This is how politics works sometimes, the dirty side of it. But the people of Eagles Landing are not the enemy. They are your neighbors. I'm one of them. So I'm not for this, and my neighbors are not either. So [1:08:21, 1:08:25]: Please keep that in mind. [1:08:25, 1:08:45]: So we when we went down to the hearing and they asked them why did they want to become a city, they said, Well, we don't have senior centers, uh we don't have parks, every single thing they named was a county service. Until finally one of the reps said so in [1:08:45, 1:09:05]: essence what you're saying is the county who has failed you and not stock bridge. The services that you're m demanding is because the county failed to provide them. So we need for you guys to understand that all of the things that they say they're not getting those are services that are mandated that count [1:09:05, 1:09:13]: Provide, okay? And they're confused. But yet they want to be a city, but they just got a little confusion going on. Okay. [1:09:13, 1:09:33]: One concerned citizen says I've been watching this in the news lately and I've heard certain individuals say, especially one who's proposed this bill, that all you have to do is uh Google City of Stockbridge uh from twenty years ago and you see that there was some disruption. Can you please address this? I'm gonna lead in and let them answer. I [1:09:33, 1:09:53]: I said at the last meeting and the thing that we stood before this General Assembly and said, Whatever issues or Stockbridge was not with this group here. That's correct. And the impression that they gave the General Assembly was that the unhappiness is because of these [1:09:53, 1:10:13]: six and we had to explain to them that if there was disruption, it wasn't because of these six. And so if there was disruption, what we told members of the General Assembly, do not these six deserve an opportunity to make history for themselves? Are they to be condemned? [1:10:13, 1:10:14]: Yeah. [1:10:14, 1:10:25]: A judge by that of their predecessor. So when he makes comments about if you Google Stockbridge for the last 20 years, right. But these guys weren't here twenty years ago. [1:10:27, 1:10:38]: Next question from a concerned citizen. Has the detailed information that I've been reading about and seeing on the news that would negatively impact the city of Stockbridge and its citizens? Is the governor aware of this? [1:10:39, 1:10:59]: Who knows? I'm assuming that he watches television, right? Uh but you know he is the governor. This is a legislative cycle, right? And there are over there's hundreds of bills that are going before him that he needs to sign. So it's up to you to make him aware. So let's just say that he's not aware. Can you make him aware in the next three A's? Okay. [1:10:59, 1:11:19]: So we're gonna make it your business to make him aware in the next three days. One of the things related to that is I think someone had also asked a question about the UGA study and the details of the study had that been provided. That's been provided to the entire Senate, House of Representatives, everyone, the study, everything has been provided to them in detail of how [1:11:19, 1:11:21]: how this would impact the city of Stockbridge. [1:11:22, 1:11:26]: And next question. If uh this proposal does Yeah I'm sorry, sorry. Excuse me one second. [1:11:27, 1:11:35]: Um I I I was up one night um bored and I went all the way back to nineteen thirty nine from the minutes from council meetings. [1:11:36, 1:11:42]: And from nineteen thirty nine up until today, up until a few years ago, nobody was concerned about [1:11:43, 1:11:56]: the growth of Stockbridge because everybody knew everybody and everybody was circulating the same monies and everybody was getting paid. The council meetings back then was probably fifteen, ten, fifteen minutes'cause they knew who was gonna do what and what they was gonna do. [1:11:57, 1:12:17]: When you see the progression of the city of Stockbridge, those game players that was circulating the money was getting pushed out because you, the citizens, was electing people to stand for you and not for special interests. And so when we're we're right now, every council member on this council is representing you as a as the citizens. [1:12:17, 1:12:26]: So the special interest groups are out. So who's gonna get me mad about that? Surely not the citizens. It's the special interest group that can't do it anymore like they used to do it. [1:12:32, 1:12:42]: A concerned citizen has written in saying if this does go through, and I hope it doesn't, but are we taking action to take this to court all the way to the Supreme Court? [1:12:43, 1:13:02]: Uh our attorney's not um here tonight but he would tell me to tell you yes. And they have said we will not hold back. They have gathered the best legal team, I would say in the southeast, to be prepared to defend your right as a resident to keep Stockbridge together. [1:13:07, 1:13:27]: Let me add to this. Let me add to this and I'll tell you that I was gonna I was gonna wait till my comments later, but let me tell you this. About five days ago, uh since we just came up, I signed two contracts. And I I signed them because unfortunately the city manager is limited on what he can sign. So as a mayor, the council voted on this obviously and I signed two contracts [1:13:27, 1:13:38]: So if Governor Deal decides not to veto or not sign it, we're going to go all the way we can because the law firms are already on board. [1:13:45, 1:13:50]: Next question, what is the total bond obligation going forward for the city of Stockbridge? [1:13:52, 1:14:12]: Well right now what we reported is about sixteen million. Okay, that is this building and a public sewer works project. Um all of you guys remember the LCI right? Y'all participated where y'all wanted that amphitheater, you want the cultural center, you wanted all those uh multipurpose center with the gym. [1:14:12, 1:14:16]: and all of that. [1:14:16, 1:14:36]: Several years ago had begun to put those plans on the table. And so what we shared with the General Assembly this time was that this community has been waiting for these projects for a long time and that they wanted to move forward. And typically, what was the first statement I made? The typical way in which most [1:14:36, 1:14:42]: cities fund capital improvement projects is through what? Through bonds. [1:14:43, 1:14:50]: Next question. How did this city come to a fifty percent of stock bridge uh being DNX? Uh was there a math model used? [1:14:51, 1:15:11]: So as I shared with you initially, most cities did this. They looked at areas that were left incorporated. So let me give you an example of one of the bills that's in house. Many of you may not have heard of a community called Greenhaven. Well that is a city that want there's a community that wants to be a city. So they went into into DeCab County. [1:15:11, 1:15:19]: And they said every parcel in the Cab County that's not in a city, we want it. [1:15:19, 1:15:29]: And we want to make that our city. That's typically how it's done. This group said, we're not even going to look at that method. [1:15:29, 1:15:49]: Right to the north, we got a city that is financially sound, commercial hub of Henry County, got a lot of money, and if we take 50% of them, then we could pay our bills. So let's draw our map around that group. Let's draw it [1:15:49, 1:16:09]: Around the commercial properties that's gonna help us survive. Let's draw our boundaries around the residential properties. Because if you look at that map, I mean, it's kind of strange. I mean, when they start going up the West Coast, they forgot all those subdivisions. I guess they weren't good enough, right? So they picked those subdivisions and those commercial [1:16:09, 1:16:29]: Areas that they thought would lead to them being viable. Interesting. Their study is the only study out of the 20 studies that have been done for incorporation that never refers to them by name in their stats. It calls them the traditional city. [1:16:29, 1:16:37]: And then there's a footnote that says this information that determines their feasibility is based on stock bridge. [1:16:38, 1:16:45]: So if you took away the asterisk and you took away Stockbridge, they wouldn't be viable. [1:16:46, 1:16:49]: So that's how they drew their map. [1:16:50, 1:17:10]: A related question to that, real quick, a related question to that that I saw was related to the University of Georgia study which we commissioned, City of Stockbridge Commission, versus the Eagles Landing Research Committee, which had a study done by Georgia State University. University of Georgia um has been recognized um essentially by members of the legislature as being [1:17:10, 1:17:23]: the most um viable institution to provide such studies on incorporations, the ones that have been done in the past. So we commissioned the University of Georgia to do ours and they have done one from Georgia State University. [1:17:25, 1:17:37]: One of our community members um wants some clarity with the petitions. Uh they want to sign petitions but they're saying there's conflicting information from their perspective. If they signed a petition before, can they sign one again? [1:17:37, 1:17:57]: No, we already have those. And so what we're doing, we're compiling those. Someone says, when's the last date to have them? Really this weekend is to cut off because we're trying to have them down. Uh there's only five legislative days left. Um so we're trying to get those ready to go down on Monday, no later than Tuesday. If you sign one, we already have yours. [1:17:57, 1:18:02]: the notebook so you don't need to do another one. But we do need for you to get others. [1:18:04, 1:18:16]: has the clerk has uh provided us with all of the petitions that we've received thus far. You can see we've received numerous petitions and we certainly want to get as many as possible from those who have not signed. [1:18:18, 1:18:25]: We're still counting so as uh we got like five different people inputting daily. We're getting them daily. Mm-hmm. [1:18:28, 1:18:48]: Certainly we've had a lot of overwhelming support from our citizens and those also not within city limits on this concern. Next question, is there a bill that was passed where you couldn't start a new city within three miles of another? Uh yes, the Senate uh leadership did pass what they call uh Senate Bill 453. [1:18:48, 1:18:53]: So and it did cross over, so we'll just have to wait and see what occurs on the outside. [1:18:54, 1:19:14]: We'll begin to wrap up some of our questions now. One of our community members here tonight says, I live in what would be considered the new proposed area uh for the Eagles Landing City, um but I don't want to be a part of it. Um what can I do to ensure that I'm not included in this? Okay, it's a vote. Worst case, I'm gonna give you the worst case scenario. Worst case scenario. [1:19:14, 1:19:22]: This goes past. You know, we put an injunction in and all of the legal things, but at the end of the day they say, you know what, you gotta vote in May. [1:19:23, 1:19:30]: Okay. Let me just share with you. Every other city that incorporated never did so on a primary ballot. [1:19:31, 1:19:51]: They always waited until the general ballot, which was November. You know why? Because they knew that in order for people to make a sound, intelligent vote, that they needed to be educated on the facts. So therefore they gave all of the ten cities six months to get their access. [1:19:51, 1:19:58]: acts together to educate folks on the referendum. But this bill is saying that you don't need to know. [1:19:58, 1:20:18]: Just put it on the May ballot and hopefully you won't know nothing about it and that you won't show up and vote. So worst case scenario, what can you do? To that answer, if this shows up on a May ballot, you need to bring yourself, your aunt, your uncle, your cousins, grandmother, grandpa, niece, nephews, and everybody in your neighborhood. [1:20:18, 1:20:23]: need to show up whenever this shows up on the ballot and make sure that you vote no. [1:20:27, 1:20:36]: We have a comment and we certainly want to honor that. Um someone said, I propose when this nonsense is put to rest, we have a victory party at Merrill Mandor Center. [1:20:41, 1:21:01]: We will uh go on with our last question and then you will hear from your elected officials, which of course is very critical. Um I do want to say if you have questions that are popping up in your head right now or more detail, please reach out to your elected officials. They want to hear from you. Visit our website, call City Hall, our staff members, uh Mr. Randy Knight and City Manager will certainly address your concerns along with [1:21:01, 1:21:10]: Camilla Moore. Last question for tonight. What reason did the sponsors of Senate Bill 263 give for removing homestead exemption language? [1:21:12, 1:21:32]: They said they wanted to be like Stockbridge. And and that's an honor. I would tell you, it's great that someone can go before the General Assembly and say they want to be like Stockbridge. The problem is that Stockbridge is almost 100 years old. And in our bill that created us as a city, we have the power to tax and we have the power to do homestead exemptions. [1:21:32, 1:21:36]: So they want to be like Stockbridge. That was their reason. [1:21:36, 1:21:39]: Let's give a round of applause for your questions and answers tonight. [1:21:43, 1:22:03]: Thank you so much. You can still pass. Yes. One last thing. Someone asked a question about representation at the last meeting. We want you guys to know that they claimed that they wanted representation. This council met with the people down at the state capitol and they actually drew district maps. [1:22:03, 1:22:04]: [4924.7, 4943.6]: for the entire area that included Stockbridge and the proposed City of Eagles Landing, submitted that to the five originators and to this day we have never heard a word from them. They said they wanted representation. This group sent them a proposal and they have totally ignored it. [1:22:25, 1:22:36]: We thank you for your interest. Again, if you have questions and answers tonight, you're welcome to stay behind or call us again and visit the website. Right now you're going to hear from your elected officials. First up, Councilman Elton Alexander. [1:22:37, 1:22:43]: Thank you everyone so much for coming out tonight. I really appreciate it and understand that the um [1:22:44, 1:22:45]: That the what [1:22:46, 1:23:06]: happens within the next few calendar days will leave a legacy or will uh define the city of Stockbridge forever. We must stay engaged every single minute, every single second of the coming days to make sure that we are. Representative Demetrius Douglas was here every [1:23:06, 1:23:26]: Every day. And and it was a question that was said, what do we need to do in order to uh does the governor know? He gave out the governor's phone number and said call, call, call. You know, sometimes you know there may be one person there to answer the phone, but believe me, if she answers a hundred calls that day, she gonna tell the governor. [1:23:26, 1:23:26]: Yeah. [1:23:28, 1:23:46]: I sure you should go tell the governor that day and to be able to do everything. But do everything. Email, petition, all of the above to make sure that we're getting the the message known. If you have time, show up at the Capitol. It's that capital belongs to you. [1:23:46, 1:24:06]: It's the people's house. And if it's the people's house, and you go down there to speak to the representative, they see me, they say city councilman Elton Alexander, they see Mayor Anthony Ford. But when they see you, your words carry more validity and it shows that you care because I'm being paid to go down there. You're not. So [1:24:06, 1:24:12]: So you can go to the governor, you can go to the sele legislature to make sure that things are taken care of. [1:24:13, 1:24:33]: I wrote down a couple of points uh that I wanted to go over as as we move through. Uh in layman's terms, many of you s heard that well, we don't have a tax. Well yeah, we have a county tax and that is you pay it. It's very high right now. The other line is blank. It says municipal or city. [1:24:33, 1:24:53]: Blank. You have to just imagine what would be left behind now. Instead of just having that one line which is extremely high already, you'd have two taxation lines, one for the county tax and one for a new tax that you may be paying perpetuity. So you need to make sure you understand the labor. [1:24:53, 1:25:13]: terms is that another tax will be added to what's already existing and they are uh very high because I get my bill too and know that that is what the situation is. I live in the Eagles Landing area as I said earlier. I'm doing this for you. I am [1:25:13, 1:25:33]: I want to make sure that I do this for you. You know, and if if I was able to steal fifty percent or this group is able to steal fifty percent of what is uh now Stockbridge which is Bible, they probably would be better off. But what guess what? Righteousness they are wrong. There are wrongs. There are rights [1:25:32, 1:25:46]: And they are wrong. I'm with this battle because what they're doing is absolutely wrong and we don't want to start today cheating and stealing is not the way to build a new city. That's not the way you start this process. [1:25:51, 1:26:07]: The one thing that Commissioner Bruce Holmes said, and I'm gonna go off the script a little bit right now, and I told him that I was gonna do this'cause he asked me. He said, You know what? The Henry County Commissioners, in his opinion, Commissioner Bruce Holmes, could stop this. [1:26:07, 1:26:27]: He said that there was no point in that this commission could be neutral and that from the county chair on down, those individuals, if they were to take a vote, could stop this. He said to me that uh w before the governor signs this bill, he's gonna call the commissioners in the area that live in the area. [1:26:27, 1:26:47]: according to him. And he asked me to tell you and to relay to you that we need to increase the pressure on those individuals because they represent you too. You voted for them as well. And right now there's no time to be having my hands behind tied behind my back or to say it, oh, it doesn't affect me. [1:26:47, 1:27:02]: It does affect me and we need to make sure that we understand that everybody is rowing in the same direction and this historic city is at stake. We need everybody in the same direction. So I appreciate it and thank you so much. [1:27:08, 1:27:18]: Thank you everybody for holding on and waiting on us tonight and uh being here still because uh this information is really good information. But I wanna say to you all that [1:27:18, 1:27:34]: And this line has been drawn, it would take me also away from being your elected official because I live in Eagles Landing area also. So I wanna say that this it angers me because even when we win the battle, which I believe we're gonna win, I pray till God is able to do anything. [1:27:35, 1:27:42]: Even when we win this battle, it saddens me that in two thousand eighteen we're having this type of fight. [1:27:43, 1:27:45]: That we see in s a city being divided. [1:27:46, 1:27:48]: That we're promoting division. [1:27:48, 1:27:55]: I would like for those that are trying to create that city to come in here right now and see that this fight doesn't have a color on it. [1:27:56, 1:28:01]: But this fight is a unified city that's saying no because right is right and wrong is wrong. [1:28:04, 1:28:10]: I won't be before you long, but I wanna say this to you because I told a friend of mine, a new friend of mine, that I would. [1:28:11, 1:28:16]: Is that if this bill shifts any kind of way other than what we want it to shift to? [1:28:17, 1:28:19]: We're gonna go at this one hundred percent. [1:28:19, 1:28:25]: even more powerful than this state had ever seen. So anybody that's gonna stand with Stockbridge. [1:28:26, 1:28:34]: And let your voices be seen and let your faces be let your faces be seen, your voices be heard. Just let me see your hands, because if it goes any other way. [1:28:34, 1:28:36]: Either way we wanted to go. [1:28:37, 1:28:53]: then it's a fight on this uh on their hands. We won't even need a news media because we'll march around the state capitol seven times and on that seven times we're gonna give a yell that's gonna call across the state say you're not gonna come in here and cheat us any kind of way. We got a voice. Thank you for coming. [1:28:55, 1:28:57]: [5340.1, 5355.5]: Good evening everyone. Thank you so much for coming out. I'm Councilwoman Neat Robinson. This has been a trying time for our city, but it's your time now to be able to stand up and do and assist us so that way we can keep our city together. [1:29:15, 1:29:28]: We have a lot of Georgia cities that are opposing this bill and they still are not adhering to their voice. So it's gonna take us always say f faith without works, guess what? [1:29:30, 1:29:35]: So we've got to put in the work. So we serve you. [1:29:35, 1:29:55]: So if you tell us that you want us to get buses to take you to the Capitol, that's what we will do. Please don't sit down on this. Don't allow us to make the decisions for you. You've already come, you've got the information. Now it's time for you to tell us what you need for us to do for you. We're here to serve and whatever it takes tonight. [1:29:55, 1:30:00]: We need your voices. Okay? We really do. I mean we can talk all day. [1:30:00, 1:30:20]: But if you're not telling us or assisting us on what you need for us to do, please do not leave this building tonight without assisting or telling us, insisting on us on what you want us to do before you leave this building tonight. Again, there's a lot of um on the page, I forgot the page number there but there [1:30:20, 1:30:27]: There's some representatives that put this bill out there. Hey six. Hey, they're gonna be running. [1:30:27, 1:30:47]: I need you to pay attention because these are the people that are making the decisions for us. To me, I guess they were talking and it sounded like, okay, you know how when you you know in our own personal life your family may think you have money. We're in this big old building, so they just think, oh, they got money, and it was just broken down to say, no. [1:30:47, 1:30:49]: We're gonna lose half. [1:30:50, 1:30:59]: We keep our city looking good. We try our best. That's what this council does. We try our best to keep it up. We try our best to provide the services for our citizens. [1:31:00, 1:31:12]: But guess what? You just can't come and take from us. And we're not gonna stand for it. So we need you all to stand with us so that way we can move forward. Thank you so much and God bless each and every one of you. [1:31:16, 1:31:30]: Good evening, Stockbridge. I made some notes here because I want to make sure I say a few things because I want you to understand. First, let me concur with Councilman Alexander when he made the statement that [1:31:31, 1:31:37]: This is not a fight against many of the residents that live in Eagles Landing. [1:31:37, 1:31:42]: I have a business card in my pocket right now. I met a gentleman today. [1:31:44, 1:31:45]: That told me that [1:31:46, 1:31:48]: No one came to him. [1:31:48, 1:31:50]: about the proposed city. [1:31:51, 1:31:53]: And that he was totally against that. [1:31:54, 1:31:59]: I would imagine that many of you that live in Eagles Landed and probably feel the very same way. [1:32:00, 1:32:02]: But first let me just thank all of you for [1:32:03, 1:32:04]: For your support. [1:32:05, 1:32:07]: For your dedication. [1:32:08, 1:32:09]: For your passion. [1:32:10, 1:32:11]: And your belief. [1:32:11, 1:32:12]: in this municipality. [1:32:16, 1:32:19]: This council and this staff [1:32:21, 1:32:23]: Have spoken the truth. [1:32:24, 1:32:25]: And have laid out [1:32:26, 1:32:28]: All of the facts. [1:32:28, 1:32:32]: Last Thursday, well even before last Thursday. [1:32:32, 1:32:34]: We laid out the facts. [1:32:35, 1:32:38]: Tonight we laid out the facts. [1:32:38, 1:32:39]: That's what we do. [1:32:41, 1:32:42]: We have spoken the truth. [1:32:43, 1:32:45]: And we have laid out the facts. [1:32:46, 1:32:50]: Now I cannot say that for the folks that are trying to create a new city. [1:32:52, 1:32:55]: We have prayed, we came together and we prayed. [1:32:55, 1:32:57]: I believe in prayer. [1:32:58, 1:33:00]: I believe God answers prayer. [1:33:02, 1:33:03]: I believe [1:33:04, 1:33:06]: That when it's all said and done [1:33:07, 1:33:12]: That the city of Stockbridge will still be whole. I truly believe that. [1:33:14, 1:33:19]: I want to speak to a couple of the issues that folks have called me and raised. [1:33:20, 1:33:21]: About [1:33:21, 1:33:25]: No representation from this municipality. [1:33:25, 1:33:32]: And I made a note here, and as I stated earlier, I was first elected to this council back in 2012. [1:33:33, 1:33:37]: And I I was I grew up here in the city of Stockbridge. This is my home. [1:33:38, 1:33:41]: I'm familiar with every [1:33:41, 1:33:50]: elected official in this municipality going back into the 70s. Know them personally, they knew me personally. [1:33:51, 1:33:53]: Many of them are deceased right now. [1:33:54, 1:33:57]: But the question of no representation [1:33:59, 1:34:00]: Four [1:34:01, 1:34:04]: of the last six mirrors. [1:34:04, 1:34:07]: Duly elected to this municipality. [1:34:08, 1:34:11]: lived in this target area. [1:34:12, 1:34:13]: Four of the six [1:34:17, 1:34:19]: Five council members. [1:34:22, 1:34:29]: that lives in that particular area for the last twelve years have been a part of this municipality. [1:34:30, 1:34:35]: So that is not true about no representation at this particular council. [1:34:36, 1:34:39]: The last two mayors before Mayor Ford [1:34:41, 1:34:42]: Brought no issues. [1:34:43, 1:34:45]: From that community. [1:34:46, 1:34:54]: No issues. So I just want to dismiss and disprove the notion of no representation at this municipality. [1:34:58, 1:35:00]: Mrs. Moore mentioned [1:35:00, 1:35:02]: A comprehensive [1:35:02, 1:35:03]: Plan. [1:35:04, 1:35:08]: that this council was prepared to go forward. [1:35:09, 1:35:15]: Now, this whole issue of Eagles Landing, it's been in the work for a long time. [1:35:16, 1:35:18]: And I'm telling you for what I know. [1:35:18, 1:35:21]: Now we just heard about it in twenty seventeen. [1:35:22, 1:35:25]: But this plan has been in the work for a while. [1:35:26, 1:35:28]: But this is a reason. [1:35:29, 1:35:31]: That this council [1:35:32, 1:35:35]: was elected back in November twenty seventeen. [1:35:36, 1:35:38]: It's not by circumstance. [1:35:40, 1:35:41]: It's by fate. [1:35:42, 1:35:43]: When you look [1:35:44, 1:35:46]: And these elected officials [1:35:46, 1:35:54]: When you look at this staff, Mrs. Moore just got here recently, our city managers just got here recently. [1:35:55, 1:35:56]: It was by faith. [1:35:56, 1:36:02]: And I can tell you and I can look in your faces that when they presented these facts [1:36:05, 1:36:11]: You said, wow, they are very knowledgeable, very experienced. It's a reason why. [1:36:11, 1:36:19]: that God brought them here to this municipality at this time because he knew [1:36:20, 1:36:21]: That we was gonna be in a fight. [1:36:22, 1:36:25]: And I believe that we are going to win this fight. [1:36:32, 1:36:45]: This council have been working on quality of life issues and I'm just going to mention just a couple of things just to give you an idea of what we have been trying to do for you. [1:36:46, 1:36:47]: The citizens [1:36:47, 1:36:48]: [5810.1, 5812.5]: When you talk about quality of life, [1:36:53, 1:36:56]: We understand that and this is what we've been trying to do. [1:36:57, 1:37:00]: We've been trying to div redevelop. [1:37:02, 1:37:03]: Out downtown. [1:37:04, 1:37:05]: Restaurants. [1:37:06, 1:37:07]: Shopping. [1:37:08, 1:37:09]: Entertainment. [1:37:09, 1:37:11]: Cultural arts. [1:37:11, 1:37:12]: Amphitheater. [1:37:13, 1:37:19]: Splash pads for the kids. You name it. All of this is on the drawing board that we have talked about. [1:37:20, 1:37:34]: Public safety. A lot of folks are saying, well, what is the city of Stockbridge going to do about public safety? We believe that it is our responsibility to make sure that you as a citizen, where you live, you are safe. [1:37:35, 1:37:47]: We understand that and we're going to work on that. If you're a business owner, we want to make sure that when you're in your business, that you're safe in your business. When you close up at night, you're safe. [1:37:57, 1:37:59]: quality education for all of our children. [1:38:00, 1:38:06]: We know that we have some issues with our s with some school systems here. We understand that. [1:38:07, 1:38:11]: But we have decided to work with the Henry County Board of Education. [1:38:12, 1:38:18]: And I see Dr. Finn over there, I know she's smiling, because this is one of her things about educating our kids. [1:38:19, 1:38:28]: We're going to get in the trenches with those board members and we're going to make sure that all of our children get a quality education here in the city of Stockbridge and in Henry County. [1:38:30, 1:38:44]: And I could go on and on, got a list here, but I'm gonna cut it short because you all may have some other questions and I'm going to let uh our city manager and our Mrs. Moore uh maybe respond to a couple of things. But the point I wanna make to you citizens. [1:38:46, 1:38:48]: We are in tune. [1:38:49, 1:38:51]: to the needs of this city. [1:38:51, 1:38:54]: And to the best of our ability, Mrs. Howard. [1:38:56, 1:38:57]: We're gonna make it happen. [1:38:58, 1:38:59]: Just give us the opportunity. [1:39:00, 1:39:02]: We're gonna make it happen. [1:39:03, 1:39:08]: It's hard for us to stay focused on those things when we're in a fight for our lives. [1:39:08, 1:39:13]: So once this is clear and I do believe that we will stay whole after this. [1:39:14, 1:39:25]: We're gonna look to you to come and voice your opinion about what we need here in this city. How do we go about making sure that some of these things that I just mentioned? [1:39:27, 1:39:28]: We need your input. [1:39:29, 1:39:38]: We're not going to do it without you having a voice. You elected us to represent you and to be your voice when you can't come here. [1:39:38, 1:39:44]: But we need you to come just like you're coming now. So here I'm looking in the eyes of a lot of folks in this room. [1:39:45, 1:39:47]: And believe me. [1:39:47, 1:39:51]: I'm reading your eyes. I'm feeling that heartbeat. [1:39:52, 1:39:53]: And we understand. [1:39:53, 1:39:55]: What we have to do. [1:39:55, 1:39:59]: My good friend Adam back there. We understand what we got to do. Thank you. [1:40:01, 1:40:02]: Good evening. [1:40:04, 1:40:20]: Thank you all for coming tonight. I am Lakeisha Gamp, Mayor Pro Tem of the City of Stockbridge. I want to say that um I would first would like to thank our staff who have done a phenomenal job tonight and have continued to work hard for the citizens here. [1:40:21, 1:40:23]: We stand unified, ladies and gentlemen. [1:40:24, 1:40:32]: The city of Stockbridge City Council stays unified and we will fight and continue to fight for you and for what is right. [1:40:33, 1:40:45]: and to the General Assembly wherever you are, whether you represent a small town, whether repres whether you represent an a city of our size, or someone as large as of Atlanta as Atlanta. [1:40:46, 1:40:51]: Whether you represent us in the state, whether you repres represent us in the country. [1:40:51, 1:41:04]: It is time to do what's right, not what's time to do for the Republicans, not what it's time to do for the Democrats, no not what it's time to do for blacks or whites. It's time to do what's right. [1:41:11, 1:41:31]: And we need to stick together. Taking 50% of our tax revenues, it is not right. Leaving us with the debt of what we have done for your side of the city, our side of the city is not right. And it's not done by the citizens that live over in Eagles Landing, the 9,000 that are [1:41:31, 1:41:51]: Over there, it this has been done, this effort has been done by a select few. And to include the names of the names on that list, include Senator Rick Jeffries, who's now running for lieutenant governor, and Senator Brian Strickland, who is currently the senator. But to sit here and say [1:41:51, 1:42:02]: That three cities out of four cities have signed resolutions. A hundred and three or more, a hundred plus have signed resolutions stating that they are against. [1:42:02, 1:42:22]: A new city such as this being formed by de-annexation is unbelievable that this thing has gotten this far. So we need to write our governor and say, veto the first bill, and by no means let Eagles Landon come to uh come together unless they come together in a [1:42:22, 1:42:34]: an unincorporated area. And you need to take that out to the community 10 and 20 at a time. Respond back to the emails. Ignore the shade. [1:42:34, 1:42:45]: of the false information and the smoke screens about how dysfunctional our city is when we have had to lay the foundation to get it where we are right now. [1:42:46, 1:43:06]: Because that's what we're having to do. I came here and there was a budget on an Excel spreadsheet. Unacceptable in twenty fourteen. And now we have the best financial, we're in the best financial shape, and we also have plans to build that art center, and we have plans to build that amphitheater, and we have plans for [1:43:06, 1:43:21]: for our community and we've given back and we continue to develop but we had to lay a foundation ladies and gentlemen and it's not an easy road and that foundation we had to lay is because we had to rebuild what was destroyed over twenty years ago. [1:43:23, 1:43:28]: So I say to you, thank you for your continued support. [1:43:29, 1:43:44]: And ignore those naysayers and fight for our city and do what's right, not because you're Republican, not because you're a Democrat, not because you're black or white or Asian or blue, green, purple, or from Mars. [1:43:44, 1:43:46]: It is time. [1:43:47, 1:43:48]: To do. [1:43:48, 1:43:49]: The right thing. [1:43:56, 1:44:16]: I tell you what, uh it's just great that uh you all are out here tonight. It really is. And uh I mentioned this before last Thursday that um we're here at least two ice a month. So we like to see the chambers feel like this twice a month when we're when we're doing the business for you all. Uh I I mentioned also earlier in in my comments uh that um uh I [1:44:16, 1:44:24]: I signed uh two different contracts involving uh some legal teams. Uh so don't fear. [1:44:24, 1:44:42]: Because if the governor, I'll say again, decides not to veto or not sign and after 40 days becomes law, we will initiate a strategic counter-attack, as I mentioned last week. I've I've resigned the contracts. Those law firms are sitting in the wings ready for us to say, go. [1:44:42, 1:44:45]: Okay? And we'll tie it up. [1:44:45, 1:45:05]: And the thing about it is is the governor himself on his way out for so he's got his legacy to worry about and one of the candidates when wants to become um governor, lieutenant colonel uh Lieutenant Governor Cato, if we end up going this way, he'll have to answer this in his campaign because it will get national attention. And we and and since we are very sovereign, yeah. [1:45:05, 1:45:06]: Go ahead. [1:45:09, 1:45:29]: We are a very sovereign city, so we have the funding. So and I don't think you would mind the spending the funding to uh to advocate the the the pushback or the de-annexation of our city. The funding is there. So and that is and and that's a key point because uh they didn't realize the funding is there. Why would you want to take our primary [1:45:29, 1:45:49]: economic corridor and rip us off or steal. That's I consider stealing in a sense. And it's a small group a small group of people. I mean it's not all these everybody lives in Eagles Land area. It's a small group of people who are kind of pushing this ordeal. We are very financially stable in this aspect of it all. So if you if you go to unincorporated [1:45:49, 1:46:04]: county area like everybody else, well those folks will tell you, no, I don't want to do this because everybody pays the county tax on a corporate county area here here in here in the county that you would look at, you don't have an economic corridor like you have at Eagles Land Parkway and Hudson Bridge all the way flipping road. You don't have that. [1:46:04, 1:46:05]: So [1:46:05, 1:46:18]: But we're gonna win this it's a war. We're gonna win this war. And once upon that victory, since it was a suggestion made, I'll have to ask the council'cause I at America do anything with the council to prove it, right? Maybe we'll have a big party in moral matters, right? Right? [1:46:19, 1:46:27]: And I'll tell you something else, since we become 100 years old in 2020, guarantee we're gonna have an off-the-chain party in 2020 as well. Okay? [1:46:30, 1:46:50]: On on that note, as we get prepared for our centennial, okay, what we want to do is continue to work and strategically build up our downtown so we can have an amphitheater so we can set up to have concerts and have a great time to celebrate the city's 100 years, right? Splash pad for our kids. So when we have the concert in the summer or movies and movies on the screen. [1:46:50, 1:47:10]: we'll have them in this area. We will build this this downtown area and we also will continue to work with the contractors and build Jodeco South, Atlanta South. It's going to happen, folks. If you look at the map, where are the maps? You look at the maps, we've annexed that, the 160 of those acres, that mixed use development, Jodeco Road and Highway 75, it was annexed into the city of Stompbridge. [1:47:10, 1:47:14]: in December of 2016. [1:47:14, 1:47:34]: I'll tell you what, I put you look at it. It's all on the on the on camera. I put the motion in in action. Alexander seconded that. We approved it unanimously. And it's done. They want commercial high-end stores. Guess what? We already have it. We just got to work the plan. The plan's there. You want legal representation? Well, someone's already, I think, come on, I already mentioned it. [1:47:34, 1:47:44]: We we say okay fine. We developed something for them, send it to all the five representatives, say, here you go. Here's a district plan. So everybody can have some legal representation. [1:47:45, 1:47:54]: Okay? No response. But I'll tell you what the key to that would be as well. Because even if we do that, guess what? You all would have to approve it. [1:47:54, 1:48:14]: We just can't arbitrarily just do that and say here we're gonna do this. You all will have to approve that. We would have to go to re do a referendum. Am I correct on this? Okay. Okay, we have to do a referendum and you would have to approve that. So otherwise that still comes back to you, the citizens. Because in all actuality, we work for you. We can't make major decisions without getting your approval. [1:48:14, 1:48:24]: letting you know what we're doing and how we're doing it. So the constant interaction we need with you is is what something that has to happen and something that we need to do on a continual basis. [1:48:24, 1:48:27]: Okay, in that aspect. But once we get over this hump. [1:48:27, 1:48:37]: You will see that and it's been mentioned several times already by the rest of the council that there will be there are things already in the budget, in the plan to build up the downtown area and Joe to go south. All right? [1:48:38, 1:48:58]: And the intent is to make Stockbridge a greater city than what it is now. And uh to I'm gonna do this as well, add this in there. Once this is over with, we're looking to increase our size. Because we got to fill up those holes, those islands. We need to fill them up. And if we go to districts, if we ever go to districts, and you all prove that. [1:48:58, 1:49:05]: But we have to fill the holes, which means we we're going to get larger. Which means folks will c can have local representation provided you'll prove that. [1:49:06, 1:49:11]: and um we'll continue to do great things. Have the faith, keep the faith. [1:49:12, 1:49:13]: Help us out. It's your city. [1:49:14, 1:49:15]: Our city. [1:49:16, 1:49:18]: Okay? God bless y'all. Thank you for being out here tonight. [1:49:24, 1:49:44]: Thank you all very much again for coming. We appreciate all your participation and as elected officials and as as county or city appointed uh staff. This is why we do what we do is to serve you. I want to remind you to go out to the tables outside about uh canvassing information and petitions, check our [1:49:44, 1:49:45]: City website. [1:49:45, 1:49:57]: for information and if anybody has any questions, myself and Ms. Moore will be here afterwards. Please come up and ask us questions if you have any additional questions. Thank you very much. Drive safely this evening. God bless. [1:50:27, 1:50:27]: Oh.