2017-07-25 · City Council · Transcript · Work Session Meeting

--- title: July 25 2017 Work Session Meeting date: 2017-07-25 source: 2017-07-25_July_25_2017_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:20]: So she's our intern, um Miss D, um so DeAndra Jackson, so I just want to make sure we introduce them. And also we have standing before you our council, uh which is our mayor pro tem Anthony Ford and Councilman John Blount. So I didn't want to overlook anyone um and our um clerk who is [0:00:20, 0:00:32]: Vanessa Holliday. Without these with the assistance of these great people we wouldn't be here today. So I wanna at least give them a big round of applause for being there for our young people. [0:00:35, 0:00:55]: I'm extremely proud because we start this journey in October and so we're here today. Um some may say it may have taken longer, but it doesn't take long. If you just put it in front of the young people, they're ready to go and they'll move um straight forward ahead. But I do want to recognize that we had a community service event [0:00:55, 0:01:15]: And we had a couple young people that came out and they did their really their first service project here in the city. So I wanted to present this community service certificate to these three people and also to let them know thank you for taking the initiative to step out and come. [0:01:15, 0:01:35]: And do other events outside of your own, which is here in the city of Stockbridge. So this says a certificate of participation to Miss Saniah Alexander is applauded for her outstanding three hours of volunteerism at this event, which was the Trail Alive event. So I want to go ahead and present. [0:01:35, 0:01:37]: [ 98.1, 101.1]: of community service for her. [0:01:43, 0:01:54]: And also we have certificate of participation to Mr Jaden Brown is applauded for his his outstanding four hours of volunteerism. [0:01:57, 0:02:17]: And for Miss Anaya Kendrick is applauded for her outstanding four hours of volunteerism at the this event as well. So these three three people started out with four hours. Um we just did their project of beautification on this past weekend, so they received more hours of community service. [0:02:17, 0:02:31]: service credits that they can use in high school and also it'll help them which Miss D is gonna help them build their college show them how to build a college portfolio. So I just want to let them know again give them a round of applause for that. [0:02:33, 0:02:53]: And also um we were um giving out awards to these young people but I just didn't want to leave out our intern. I just want to present because she's actually been here, she's a done a lot for the young people, so I didn't want you to go unnoticed. And Miss D we really appreciate you and if everyone youth council could stand and give [0:02:53, 0:02:55]: [176.7, 195.6]: And we wanna definitely wish her well as she is off at Spelman and whatever we can do here at the city of Stockbridge, just like with our young people, we're in support of her as well. So at this time if we wanna let our young people do the presentation, we'll bring them forward so they can um go ahead and do their presentation. [0:03:23, 0:03:43]: Good evening everyone and welcome to the first ever Stockford Youth Council swearing in ceremony. My name is Kelly Cruz, I'm a rising junior at Eagles Lane Christian Academy, and I'm happy to serve as the chair of this council. On behalf of the entire Youth Council, we are so excited to have you all here tonight and we look forward to helping you all make Stockfords the best that it can be. To start our presentation, [0:03:43, 0:03:51]: Members of the Council will give a brief summary of the events that we've participated in so far. First, Ms. Freeman will tell you about our social media accounts. [0:03:55, 0:04:15]: Good evening. My name is Kennedy Freeman and I'm a junior at Dutchtown High School and I'm also the social media coordinator for the Youth Council. As the social media coordinator, I have already started the Twitter and Instagram accounts that will represent the Youth Council. The goal behind the accounts is to show off what we're doing to the city and to our peers and to show that Stockbridge Youth is the best youth. Thank you. [0:04:20, 0:04:25]: Thank you, Miss Freeman. Next, Mr Brown will tell you about the retreat that we all took in May. [0:04:28, 0:04:48]: Good evening. My name is Jaden Brown and I'm a rising senior at Strong Rock Christian School as well as the Vice Chair of the Youth Council. Our first event was an activity in which we participated in a two-day retreat in May, where we had uh multiple leadership sessions as well as team building activities, where we stayed at the Fairfield Inn, which is the first hotel in Stockton. [0:04:48, 0:04:52]: Stockbridge, or actually the newest, I'm sorry, hotel in Stockbridge. Thank you. [0:04:55, 0:04:57]: Thank you, Mr. Brown. [0:04:58, 0:05:02]: Next, Miss Alexander and Miss Doden will tell you about the Trail Alive event. [0:05:06, 0:05:26]: Good evening. My name is Jasmine Bowden and I'm a rising sophomore at Woodland High School. On july fifteenth, the youth participated in a trail alive event at at Reeves Creek Trail that that preceded to Memorial Park for one point [0:05:26, 0:05:27]: Seven miles. Thank you. [0:05:34, 0:05:54]: Hello, my name is Sanaya Alexander and I'm a rising sophomore at Stockbridge High School. I want to talk to you about the community service that we did on the Trail Alive on how together we bind it together, going to Memorial Park by walking and riding the bicycles bicycles and all that. And I think as a community we should stay together and bind. [0:05:54, 0:06:00]: bond together instead of being inside the house and be on technology and coming together as a community. Thank you. [0:06:06, 0:06:10]: Thank you. Next, Mr. Rhodes will tell you about Stockbridge Beautiplication Day. [0:06:16, 0:06:26]: Um, good evening. My name is Aaron Rose. I am a rising senior at Woodland High School. I am the secretary of the Stockbird Youth Council. [0:06:26, 0:06:30]: This past Saturday we had our beautification day. [0:06:30, 0:06:31]: Where we [0:06:32, 0:06:33]: Um [0:06:34, 0:06:50]: where we truly did our first service to the community by cleaning up the city hall and the local co um Cochrane Library and planted flow flowers. Excuse me. Sorry. Thank you. [0:06:57, 0:07:02]: Thank you, Mr Rose. Next, Miss Wilcher would tell you about Back to School Day. [0:07:06, 0:07:22]: Good evening. My name is Christina Wilter and I'm the parliamentary of the Starclear City Council, as well as a rising junior at Dutchtown High School. This upcoming Saturday at the Back to School event, we look forward to taking more steps towards impacting our community through selflessness and service. We hope to see you all there. Thank ya. [0:07:29, 0:07:34]: Thank you, Ms Wilcher. And lastly, Ms. Kendrick will tell you about our public service project. [0:07:41, 0:07:52]: Good evening. My name is Anaya Kendrick and I'm a rising junior at Willem High School. The youth council has planned to do two public service projects and we plan to host an outstanding [0:07:52, 0:08:04]: holiday event for the foster children at a friend's house and we also plan on giving toys to the children patients at Piedmont Hospital. Thank you. [0:08:10, 0:08:11]: Thank you. [0:08:11, 0:08:21]: As you can see, the council has been very busy so far. We look forward to continuing to do more community service to make Stockwords the best city in the country. Thank you so much. [0:08:23, 0:08:29]: Yeah. Thank you so much. Again, can we give a big round of applause for these young people? [0:08:37, 0:08:37]: Panie Przewodniczący. [0:09:10, 0:09:11]: [557.0, 561.9]: All people in the bag will get the three one that we get together. [0:09:31, 0:09:33]: [575.0, 579.5]: Oh no, yeah, [0:09:41, 0:09:44]: Uh [0:09:49, 0:09:51]: Alright everybody, big smiles. [0:09:55, 0:09:56]: Oh my. [0:10:01, 0:10:05]: Looks good. Great job. [0:10:08, 0:10:15]: And we'll talk about that one. [0:10:26, 0:10:27]: Thank you, Like. [0:10:30, 0:10:33]: What it's paying. [0:10:33, 0:10:48]: Thank you. [0:10:57, 0:10:59]: Yeah. [0:11:01, 0:11:21]: That was perfect timing. Um we're delighted to have our young people here, those of you who have come in since we began. This is the Stockbridge Youth Group, the first one we've ever had in the city of Stockbridge, and I think you can tell that these uh special eight young people who all signed up on their own. [0:11:21, 0:11:41]: Online, and they are the only young people that did that without any prodding to come and participate. So we just cannot say enough uh good things about our young people, and we're looking forward to knowing them a lifetime, and we hope that you'll support them in everything that they are involved in. [0:11:41, 0:11:41]: [702.7, 722.2]: At this time I'm calling the meeting of the Stockbridge City Council to order and the first order of business we're going to call on our pastor from the First Presbyterian Church, Susan Bennett, and ask her if she would come up and deliver our invocation this evening. If you'd all stand and we're going to stay standing to pledge the fly. [0:12:08, 0:12:09]: Let's pray together. [0:12:20, 0:12:28]: A gracious and loving God, first of all we must give you thanks for the young people who have offered their gifts in your service. [0:12:29, 0:12:34]: It is a wonderful thing to be called to serve you by serving others. [0:12:34, 0:12:45]: And I'm thankful for each of them. And as this meeting begins and progresses, Lord, we continue to pray that each person who serves you in this place [0:12:45, 0:12:51]: would walk firmly in the path that you have laid out for him or her [0:12:51, 0:13:11]: We know, Lord, that in this town, in this city, in this room, important things are happening. People's lives are being touched and changed and directed. And more than anything else, Lord Jesus, we need your wisdom. We need your guidance, your compassion, your grace, and your love. And so we pray that all things that are [0:13:11, 0:13:15]: said and done and decided and planned here today. [0:13:15, 0:13:17]: Would be in accordance with [0:13:17, 0:13:21]: The path that you have laid out for those who serve you here is [0:13:21, 0:13:27]: We thank you so much for your grace, for your forgiveness, for your forbearance. [0:13:27, 0:13:33]: We ask your blessing on this time together we pray in Christ's name. Amen. Amen. [0:13:44, 0:13:45]: Under God. [0:13:50, 0:13:51]: Thank you. [0:13:54, 0:14:01]: At this time I'm going to call on our clerk to have our roll call before we get into the um business of the evening. [0:14:01, 0:14:03]: Councilman Alexander. [0:14:05, 0:14:10]: Let the record reflect Councilman Alexander is not in attendance. Councilman Blount. [0:14:11, 0:14:11]: Mayor Neal. [0:14:12, 0:14:14]: Present. May I approach him for present. [0:14:14, 0:14:16]: Councilwoman Gantt. Present. [0:14:17, 0:14:20]: Councilwoman Robinson. Present. Mayor Neal, you have a quorum. [0:14:21, 0:14:21]: Thank you. [0:14:21, 0:14:28]: At this time I'd like for uh us to have a motion to accept the agenda for the evening. [0:14:28, 0:14:28]: Mair Neal. [0:14:29, 0:14:33]: I'd like to actually make a motion to amend the agenda. [0:14:33, 0:14:37]: And what I like to do is add to the new business [0:14:37, 0:14:48]: Um some discussion in reference to funding for a third concert in August and also funding for Oktoberfest to allow the uh Hispanic Fest to be part of that as well. [0:15:01, 0:15:05]: Okay, we have a motion to add a third concert. [0:15:06, 0:15:10]: Is that with funding? Are you gonna to amend the budget? Yes. [0:15:10, 0:15:15]: All right. Uh we have a motion by Councilman Ford to um [0:15:15, 0:15:20]: uh add a third concert in August and that would be amending our budget to pay for it. [0:15:21, 0:15:27]: and um doing the same thing to assist the Bridge Fest event that would include um [0:15:27, 0:15:30]: a great infusion of um [0:15:30, 0:15:38]: Possibly music and other things from our beautiful Hispanic community. So that's the motion. Do I hear a second? [0:15:38, 0:15:39]: Yes. [0:15:39, 0:15:44]: [945.2, 947.3]: They they will be. They will be items number [0:15:47, 0:15:51]: Um on our agenda this would be number two and three. [0:15:53, 0:15:53]: Okay. [0:15:54, 0:15:57]: We those are separated in the motion. Do I hear a second? [0:15:59, 0:16:01]: Uh uh I have a second. [0:16:01, 0:16:03]: Do I hear a second? No second. [0:16:03, 0:16:04]: You are here second. [0:16:04, 0:16:05]: A second. [0:16:05, 0:16:07]: Okay, we have a second by Miss Gantt. [0:16:08, 0:16:12]: Now we'll stop for discussion. Any discussion? Yes, Mayor. [0:16:12, 0:16:32]: I just wanna ask have we spoken with our event staff because I mean do we have enough time? When is this the concert gonna be I guess because I know when I last spoke with them they were stating time factor knowing the um staff that they have. So we've spoken with our event staff. That's that's my question. Um I mean are they prepared?'Cause I know [0:16:32, 0:16:40]: know they were saying they would need at least thirty days. Um so have we in spoken with them? That's just my question. [0:16:40, 0:16:41]: Yeah. [0:16:42, 0:16:51]: Yes to forward. Yes, to answer that question. Yes, I did speak to C C but we would have to make a decision uh on that tonight and let them know so they can plan it out properly. [0:16:51, 0:16:54]: Okay. So on that aspect yes I did. Thank you. Uhhuh. [0:16:54, 0:16:56]: Okay. Any other discussion? [0:16:56, 0:16:57]: Yes. [0:16:57, 0:16:59]: What date is the Bridge Fest? [0:17:01, 0:17:07]: It's in September. I wanna say September thirty. I'm not sure. [0:17:09, 0:17:28]: This is to amend the agenda. We can discuss the items when we get to those items on the agenda. This is to amend the agenda. That's fine with amendment. I'm good with amending the agenda. Okay, we have a motion, a second. We've had discussion. If there's no further discussion, uh all in favor of amending the agenda to add these two items. [0:17:29, 0:17:32]: Okay, thank you very much. We'll move forward. [0:17:36, 0:17:37]: All right. Now. [0:17:37, 0:17:42]: We've amended the agenda but I now need a motion to accept the agenda. [0:17:43, 0:17:45]: Mayor I make a motion to accept the agenda. [0:17:45, 0:17:49]: There's a motion to accept the agenda. Do I hear a second? Second. [0:17:49, 0:17:54]: Have a motion and a second. All in favor, please re uh uh any discussion on that. [0:17:56, 0:17:58]: If not, all in favor? [0:17:59, 0:18:00]: Okay. [0:18:00, 0:18:03]: Ag the agenda has been accepted as amended. [0:18:04, 0:18:08]: At this time we are uh reviewing minutes. Um [0:18:08, 0:18:09]: From [0:18:09, 0:18:14]: They are scheduled to be adopted at the August fourteenth council meeting. [0:18:14, 0:18:17]: But these are from uh june twelfth. [0:18:18, 0:18:20]: on june twenty eighth. [0:18:21, 0:18:24]: June twelfth and june twenty eighth. This is just a review. [0:18:26, 0:18:31]: Do I need here a motion to go forward? Do we don't need a motion for that? Okay. [0:18:31, 0:18:45]: All right. Now then we have basically already introduced our young people, but for those that continue to come in for the six o'clock meeting, I would like to one more time recognize our great group of young people. Have you stand one more time before you leave. [0:18:57, 0:19:17]: Okay, thank you so much and we and love having you with us. Um tonight we're gonna kinda flip the coin. We we've had our finest in the room and uh tonight we have with us and there may be more, so if so y'all don't have to identify yourselves, but we have from the Sheriff's Department tonight John Howe. [0:19:17, 0:19:37]: Who will be coming up? And from the police department, Robert Gleason, I believe, is in the audience. And okay, Robert's back here. These two guys are gonna come up and give us an update of the gang activity in Henry County. And if you can stay and hear this, if [0:19:37, 0:19:46]: it you are going to need to hear this. So we would encourage them to come on up and talk to us and bring us up to date on what's happening in our community. [0:19:52, 0:19:59]: Good evening. Evening. We got the uh first and last names mixed up a little bit. I'm Detective John Gleason. [0:19:59, 0:20:11]: with the uh Henry County Police Department's criminal investigation division and I specialize in criminal street games. With me in this area of expertise is Detective Ashley Ramsey. [0:20:12, 0:20:21]: She's very, very good at her job. She's dedicated and hard working and she's become a brilliant investigator. She's been with with me now for almost eight months. [0:20:21, 0:20:23]: And she's doing a really, really good job. [0:20:24, 0:20:29]: We work closely with the uh Henry County Sheriff's Department's uh gang suppression unit. [0:20:30, 0:20:44]: And um these guys are really good at what they do. We've got Sergeant Robert Howe here and uh his right hand man is Deputy Chris Chupp and they have their thumb on the pulse of what's going on in the schools and the jails. [0:20:44, 0:20:49]: Um we do have a gang problem. It's not as bad as some places. [0:20:49, 0:20:55]: Our crime rate is not as bad as some metro areas, so we're doing the best we can with it. [0:20:55, 0:20:57]: But um you know we [0:20:58, 0:21:03]: We have to deal with what we're what's put in front of us. We've got a [0:21:03, 0:21:10]: a large population of bloods and crips and gangster disciples just like any other Metro Atlanta area. [0:21:10, 0:21:17]: Um and we've got what have been called hybrid or non traditional gangs, which could be a mixture of [0:21:17, 0:21:24]: kids from all of these groups or they could form their own neighborhood set and that sort of thing. [0:21:24, 0:21:31]: And street gangs are gonna be involved in a lot of your violent crimes and a lot of your thefts and your drug sales and things of that nature. [0:21:31, 0:21:36]: Um we're working really, really hard on that. There have been plenty of times I've called [0:21:36, 0:21:51]: Sergeant Howland said, Hey, I you know, I can picture a a g a guy's face, all I can remember is a street name and even if he's not able to give me a name right off the bat, he can reach out to his school resource officers, he can reach out to jail staff. [0:21:51, 0:21:59]: And before long we're able to identify certain associates so that we can get people in jail that commit these crimes in our community. [0:22:00, 0:22:05]: I'm gonna turn this over to Sergeant Howe, let him walk you through some of what they do. [0:22:05, 0:22:05]: Thank you. [0:22:06, 0:22:06]: Yeah. [0:22:08, 0:22:09]: Yeah, we [0:22:09, 0:22:14]: I'm not quite as articulate as the youth there, so I got big shoes to fill. I was pretty impressed with them. [0:22:15, 0:22:20]: But uh my name's Robert Howell. I'm a sergeant here with the Henry County Sheriff's Office. Um [0:22:20, 0:22:24]: I want to tell you a little bit about our mission as the gang suppression union at the Sheriff's Office. [0:22:25, 0:22:27]: Our complete mission is just to investigate gang activity. [0:22:28, 0:22:36]: And that's the bottom line. It's the track, identify, and keep up with gang activity, uh gang associates and gang members here in Henry County. [0:22:36, 0:22:40]: Uh the little difference between the Sheriff's Office and the Police Department is [0:22:41, 0:22:52]: As you know, the police department answers the calls for service. They're the ones that are going to be responding to the armed robberies, to the burglaries, things of that such. And the sheriff's office we're in charge of the the courts, the school, [0:22:52, 0:22:55]: And we serve the warrants that they obtain. [0:22:56, 0:22:58]: So what we're doing here in Henry County [0:22:58, 0:23:00]: as the gang suppression unit is [0:23:00, 0:23:01]: The [0:23:01, 0:23:09]: We're more of a street level gang suppression unit currently at the sheriff's office. Um we're identifying, tracking, and constantly updating our system [0:23:09, 0:23:11]: of who is who here in Henry County. [0:23:12, 0:23:15]: And at the sheriff's office since we're in charge of the jail and the schools [0:23:16, 0:23:24]: For some reason our gangs typically identify with youth offenders. So with that being said, between the schools and the jail [0:23:24, 0:23:32]: is where we document and see most of our gang activity. So when during the summertime when they go out and commit crimes or are violent offenders [0:23:33, 0:23:37]: Uh the detectives with the police department will contact us and say, Hey, have you [0:23:37, 0:23:41]: uh ran into any of these people or dealt with any of these and we can [0:23:41, 0:23:47]: successfully work together and identify and track these offenders to where they could go obtain the warrants, we can serve the warrants [0:23:47, 0:23:50]: And it's a good collaborative uh system we got. [0:23:51, 0:23:57]: Uh back in August of last year the sheriff purchased a system called Formulytics. [0:23:57, 0:24:02]: Uh this system is available to us and other law enforcement agencies here in Henry County. [0:24:02, 0:24:06]: And since we've been using this system, myself, my partner Chris Chupp, he's not here tonight. [0:24:07, 0:24:16]: uh Detective Gleeson and Detective Ramsey have been plugging information into this system constantly. And this system is used by other agencies throughout the state. [0:24:17, 0:24:20]: Since we've been using the system we've put in a little over a hundred people. [0:24:20, 0:24:26]: And since we put in a little over those a hundred people, we've had six hundred and twenty historical events with these people. [0:24:27, 0:24:32]: So with those numbers, the agencies from DeCab County, Carroll County, [0:24:32, 0:24:37]: the Department of Corrections. We've had historical events from Savannah Chatham County [0:24:37, 0:24:41]: up until Cobb that these are where our offenders have went and committed other crimes. [0:24:42, 0:24:47]: So the jurisdictional boundaries aren't just here in Henry County, they're jumping [0:24:47, 0:24:49]: as you can see, statewide. [0:24:49, 0:24:55]: And with this system and myself and the police department entering this information this system is helping us [0:24:55, 0:24:58]: track and identify these people more uh more efficiently. [0:24:59, 0:25:08]: Um I gave a presentation to the Board of Education in early June and the Board of Education stated that their gang activity is up more than fifty percent than what it was last year. [0:25:09, 0:25:12]: So as you all know, Henry County is um [0:25:12, 0:25:16]: in the beginnings of another growth is growing rapidly, very quickly. [0:25:16, 0:25:24]: And because of that, the sheriff has implemented a gang suppression unit to help mitigate some of that violent crime and some of the gang [0:25:24, 0:25:26]: members and offenders we have here. [0:25:26, 0:25:34]: So if you need anything out of the sheriff's office, feel free to call. Um you contact me, contact the sheriff's office and we'll help you however we can. [0:25:35, 0:25:36]: Thank you. [0:25:43, 0:26:03]: We are in great appreciation of our law enforcement folks being here and this is a town hall type meeting at this point and if you have any questions in the audience if you will raise your hand uh we will make sure that maybe our attorney will take a microphone out to you and [0:26:03, 0:26:15]: And let you ask your question, either our clerk or our attorney on this side and our clerk on this side. Anyone has a question of law enforcement, please feel free to ask your questions uh while you're here if you would like. [0:26:20, 0:26:22]: Well obviously I almost uh [0:26:23, 0:26:25]: Okay, somebody's got a question. [0:26:25, 0:26:26]: Ah oui. [0:26:26, 0:26:28]: I want to speak to the uh city. [0:26:29, 0:26:30]: Police people. [0:26:31, 0:26:40]: Uh Mr. I'm sorry, this is not about anything other than gangs, so if you're gonna ask a question, it has to relate to the gangs, okay? [0:26:43, 0:26:43]: Okay. [0:26:43, 0:26:51]: He's trying to get three minutes of fame there. Not gonna let him do it tonight. Um Madam Mayor. All right, we've got a question over here. Thank you. [0:26:53, 0:26:55]: Good afternoon, City Council. [0:26:55, 0:26:57]: And all the others. [0:26:57, 0:27:03]: I know that gang activity is a really a big problem because I I used to work in the school [0:27:03, 0:27:11]: uh systems in three different counties. My question is, once y'all um realize that there is a game [0:27:12, 0:27:32]: Do you just go in and go after the game or do you have something set up when you're working with the principals so that you can make them aware that this game is is going on? Uh I was looking at I'm sorry. But do you guys notify the principles once y'all have detected gaining? [0:27:32, 0:27:37]: activity or do you just go in and just start you know [0:27:37, 0:27:47]: Bringing the games down yourself. Is it a system or is it just you all going in to dismantle the games and the game activity? [0:27:50, 0:27:51]: Um [0:27:51, 0:28:11]: Yes, like I said, we do uh educational training with the Board of Education. So we've had two over the summer where we identify local gangs that we have here. We presented this to all the administrators in Henry County, so all the principals and uh admin staff of the Board of Education is aware of what's going on. Um some of the numbers, the [0:28:11, 0:28:27]: fifty percent increase I talked about that actually came from the Board of Education. So they know what is going on and what's taking place. And we relay this information to all our school resource officers and they're actively helping. They're a big help in identifying and tracking these gang members and associates. [0:28:29, 0:28:31]: Any other questions from our audience? [0:28:36, 0:28:48]: Well, it looks like y'all have conveyed a message and um if we don't have any more questions uh of the audience I'll ask if any of our council members have a question. Yes. Uh Mr Blount. [0:28:49, 0:28:51]: Um when you [0:28:51, 0:28:52]: Well first of all [0:28:53, 0:29:00]: How what do you guys what is the definition of a gang and how many gangs have you all identified in the in Erie County? [0:29:03, 0:29:23]: The definition of a gang by by Georgia law is three or more that are involved in criminal activity. They can be formally named or informally named. Uh they don't have to go by one of the brand names like Bloods, Crits, or Gangster Disciples. They can have up uh they can have their own name, but th there has to be a pattern of [0:29:23, 0:29:26]: criminal activity. It's not against the law to be in a gang. [0:29:27, 0:29:44]: No, we could we could form the city council gang right now and and appoint enforcers and and and gang bosses and all that kind of stuff. It's not against the law to be in a gang, it's against the law to be in a gang and to to commit crime. [0:29:45, 0:29:45]: So [0:29:46, 0:29:55]: In answer to your question, we we try to keep up with the intel that we get so that we know who associates with who in the event that [0:29:56, 0:30:02]: some of these people that that we know to be associated in fact with some of these [0:30:02, 0:30:09]: Local gangs are committing criminal activity. You can look for gangs to be involved in a lot of the entering autos. [0:30:10, 0:30:14]: A lot of burglaries, a lot of robberies, uh assaults. [0:30:15, 0:30:16]: Um [0:30:16, 0:30:17]: Shootings. [0:30:18, 0:30:24]: Even though thank God Henry County doesn't see as many shootings as say Clayton or DeCab. [0:30:24, 0:30:25]: We still have'em. [0:30:26, 0:30:32]: By and large, a good bit of our criminal gang activity is gonna be violent. [0:30:33, 0:30:36]: And there's a lot of drug sales. Does that answer? [0:30:37, 0:30:53]: The question? Yeah, it it answered the first part. No, sir. We I don't have I don't have a number of gangs. Um we've got several neighborhood sets and I can say confidently that we've got [0:30:54, 0:31:12]: over two hundred members identified, but we have to we have to be reasonable and say that for every person that I know of that's associated with a criminal street gang there's several that I that I don't. You know, I haven't found a way to get gang members to fill out any kind of census for me. So [0:31:14, 0:31:22]: Thank you. [0:31:22, 0:31:26]: are gonna be involved in criminal gang activity if if there happens to be [0:31:27, 0:31:30]: um evidence that there's gangs there. [0:31:31, 0:31:31]: [1892.7, 1897.6]: Okay. Do we have other questions from our audience or from our council? [0:31:40, 0:31:59]: Okay. Well we want to thank both the Sheriff's Office, especially um our Sheriff Keith McBrier, who for those of you don't know, right now we are in a search in Henry County for a new police chief and um the sheriff has been tasked with not only running the sheriff's office but the police department. [0:31:59, 0:32:03]: during that search period. So I know he has his hands full. [0:32:03, 0:32:12]: But he's always gracious when we call and ask for assistance. So if you would convey that message to him. And thanks to all of you for coming and helping us. Thank you. [0:32:13, 0:32:15]: You wanna give'em a hand for helping us. [0:32:22, 0:32:38]: Okay, we're gonna go on down our list. We appreciate our law enforcement being here and as they leave the room we're going to ask uh Deshus Aaron to come forth. He is our public works director and Mr. Aaron has some reports for us tonight. [0:32:39, 0:32:39]: Mayor. [0:32:40, 0:32:42]: Anybody has a question? [0:32:42, 0:33:02]: If I can just say Lieutenant came, he was here for our youth. So I just want to say thank you so very much again. He was there this past weekend to make sure they were safe going from City Hall to Cochrane Park um library. So thank you again, Lieutenant. That's our Captain Uh Bolton back there, who is our new uh Stockbridge precinct. [0:33:02, 0:33:14]: Think director and we're gonna ask them to come back to our next meeting and we're gonna formally introduce them and the leadership team there. So we'll see you a couple of weeks out. Thank you. Appreciate you. [0:33:21, 0:33:24]: Okay, and again, ladies and gentlemen, this is Dashus. [0:33:25, 0:33:27]: Aaron, who's going to present um [0:33:27, 0:33:30]: Some info from the Department of Public Works. [0:33:38, 0:33:53]: And I wanna remind the audience while he's getting set up, we are still in a town hall format. So if you have questions out in the audience, you may ask them tonight as if um just like the council will be able, we'll start with our audience and then come back to our council. [0:34:27, 0:34:30]: I apologize for the late. That's okay. We're good. [0:34:37, 0:34:56]: First of all I'd like to say good evening to everybody. If I kinda stutter a little bit of been because I've been on the road, drove from Jeffrey to come back for this meeting and be headed back. But this is an update of what's going on in public works. We currently have over thirty projects that we have on the drawing board in various stages. [0:34:56, 0:34:58]: progress of [0:35:00, 0:35:17]: Uh public works, but our vision is we want to perform our duties efficiently, sustainably and cost effectively. And we maintain a high level of service in our utilities, our parks, our streets, our facilities, and we want to maintain a skilled and dedicated workforce with the n resources necessary to succeed. [0:35:18, 0:35:28]: And public works, what our responsibilities are, we maintain the streets, facilities, parks, fleet, stormwater management, wastewater collection and treatment, and water distribution and treatment. [0:35:29, 0:35:49]: And what our community expects and currently receives from the Department of Public Works is approachable, responsible, responsive 24-7 operations and services, efficient and safe roadway network, good pavement and sidewalks, a walkable community, great parks, clean, tidy, high functioning. And one of the things I notice I always go through our parks at very [0:35:49, 0:35:57]: various times of the day. And one thing I can always say, the restrooms are always clean. There are always paper towels in there. There's always soap and things of that nature. [0:35:58, 0:35:59]: And also with uh our [0:36:00, 0:36:03]: public expects from us is environmental stewardship. [0:36:04, 0:36:24]: Are we doing what we need to reduce our carbon footprint and to leave leave this city better than what we founded? And then the other thing is the implementation of projects and programs and processes that promote sustainability and meets current needs and challenges by anticipating the needs and challenges of the future. We're not just concerned about what's going on in stockbridge. [0:36:24, 0:36:31]: today but we're concerned about what's gonna be going on in Stockbridge when we're no longer here, when our kids and our grandch children are here in charge of the city. [0:36:33, 0:36:51]: And then these are some of the projects we got going on right now. But we'll start with our facilities. Currently we're in the process of d designing a new public works administrative building. We were hoping to break ground in October, but we've had some issues with the site, so we're gonna have to move the site. So that kinda sets us back, but we're still working on that. [0:36:52, 0:37:12]: And also we finished uh the demolition of the former multiplex or carame hammerick facility. We sent the soil test results back to Mayor and Council on July 12, 2017. We also, two issues that we're working on diligently is we're having issues with water intrusion in City Hall and in the municipal complex. [0:37:12, 0:37:12]: Legs. [0:37:13, 0:37:16]: And one of the things I I want to ask Mayor and Council [0:37:16, 0:37:22]: is I think we've gone about as far as we can go with Jacob Engineering and Carlisle and Company. [0:37:22, 0:37:26]: I think it it's time we refocus our effort and bring somebody else in. [0:37:27, 0:37:29]: I spoke with our engineering firm. [0:37:29, 0:37:34]: uh falcon design. They recommended someone, they presented a proposal. [0:37:34, 0:37:54]: The cost proposal for the municipal court building was twenty eight thousand three hundred dollars. Uh Falcon Design has worked with them in the past and I've gotten some references dealing with waterproofing. We could do one of two things. Let me pause you just a minute. How about picking up a microphone over there if you're gonna face the council? [0:37:54, 0:37:56]: Council, so we can get a sum record. [0:37:58, 0:37:59]: Yes. Uh [0:38:00, 0:38:20]: We can do we can do one or two things. We can decide to bid it out and take proposals from individuals saying how they'll attack the project or we'll go with what our engineers are recommending, say they've worked with this group before, but this is an issue we've gotta get resolved at the municipal court building. [0:38:20, 0:38:33]: And as well as City Hall. I said uh Carlisle and Company had did a repair down in City Hall. I went and checked before I came up here and it did not work. And I talked with the people, w we came out and looked. [0:38:33, 0:38:53]: what they're proposing like a one year warranty, they'll come back if there's any leaks, they'll repair it at no charge. But our engineers, Falcon Design, said they would recommend that we pursu pursue this avenue. And like I say it was twenty eight thousand three hundred dollars. I think we need to do something because we can't continue to allow water to continue to [0:38:53, 0:38:55]: Come into that building zone. [0:38:56, 0:38:58]: And the next thing is [0:38:58, 0:39:00]: Our vision for [0:39:00, 0:39:05]: For two thousand eighteen and beyond is to upgrade our security cameras at city facilities. [0:39:05, 0:39:07]: Renovate the municipal court building. [0:39:08, 0:39:13]: construct the city hall annexed and convert the old fire station into a welcome center. [0:39:14, 0:39:18]: The end and wastewater is where the bulk of our projects are right now. [0:39:18, 0:39:23]: We're re currently rehabilitating the Willow Springs and South Land lift stations. [0:39:23, 0:39:29]: This project is underway, is expected to be completed by october the ninth, twenty seventeen. [0:39:30, 0:39:41]: Then we got our wastewater treatment plants improvements for phase one, which will uh upgrade the headworks, is which the place where the wastewater comes in and and is screened and treated with initial treatment. [0:39:42, 0:39:51]: And we're proposing to have it thing have this ready for bid by September the eleventh with the thirty day advertisement. Hopefully we'll begin about November sixth of twenty seventeen. [0:39:52, 0:39:58]: Then we got the phase two which counseling has already approved, which is for our UV disinfection. [0:39:59, 0:40:12]: And also our filters and the rehab, the Glen Addy Lift Station. Task order was approved on May thirtieth, twenty seventeen. Staff has conducted initial site visits to look at equipment, different types of equipment that we might prefer to have here. [0:40:13, 0:40:18]: And they'll begin the the design of this project on August seventh, two thousand seventeen. [0:40:18, 0:40:26]: Our vision for twenty eighteen and beyond is to do a comprehensive assessment of our wastewater system. We've never had that done and we definitely need that. [0:40:27, 0:40:31]: to do our GIS mapping and location of all of our wastewater infrastructure. [0:40:32, 0:40:41]: to upgrade our SCADA system which will allow us to remotely operate some of our equipment instead of having people drive in when we receive alarms and things of that nature. [0:40:42, 0:40:43]: And also we're going to do a [0:40:44, 0:40:50]: study on a C D B G project we're proposing for the Smith Barnes Basin. We've had some sewer infiltration problems in that area. [0:40:51, 0:40:53]: And also we want to renovate our laboratory. [0:40:54, 0:41:02]: Then in water, what we got going on right now is I don't know if everybody's aware, we're going to the automated automated meter reading system. [0:41:03, 0:41:04]: We finished our [0:41:05, 0:41:24]: our pilot project in the Pine Grove subdivision. We're gonna monitor that for a couple of months to make sure everything is functioning the way it should. We don't wanna have a a issue like I guess everybody probably heard about on T V in Decay County where people are getting these outrageous water bills. So we wanna do everything in our power to eliminate that. [0:41:24, 0:41:32]: And also we want to upgrade our SCADA system, which is also another automatic automated way of monitoring your water system when you're not there. [0:41:32, 0:41:39]: And also we gotta go in and and look at our ordinance and revise and update'em to meet current industry standards. [0:41:39, 0:41:43]: One of the things that we're dealing with right now is a subdivision that started [0:41:44, 0:41:46]: And when the economy went south [0:41:47, 0:41:51]: the developer stopped building in that subdivision, he'd come back six years later [0:41:51, 0:42:00]: So we gotta have things in place that require them to retest those infrastructure before we accept them into the city to make sure that [0:42:00, 0:42:02]: What we accept is functionable [0:42:03, 0:42:06]: And it doesn't cost us a lot of money to bring it up to current standards. [0:42:06, 0:42:11]: Then we also want to establish a backflow and cross connection prevention programme. [0:42:11, 0:42:13]: All of the current [0:42:13, 0:42:14]: Commercial [0:42:14, 0:42:17]: Industries are required to have backflow for banners. [0:42:17, 0:42:23]: But at the current time the city does not have anything in place that requires them to test them on an annual basis. [0:42:23, 0:42:25]: So we don't know if they're functioning or not. [0:42:26, 0:42:33]: But we have some individuals on staff who are certified and they go out and do routine testing and inspection, but we want to put that onus on the business owner. [0:42:34, 0:42:53]: And our vision for twenty eighteen and beyond is to replace the plastic service lines we have in the system, is to conduct the GIS mapping of our water system coming to the twenty first century. We're also gonna do a hydraulic model of our water system. That would be a guide to help us to know what areas we need to make improvements in. [0:42:53, 0:42:56]: Then we also want to do some upgrades to various water mains. [0:42:57, 0:43:04]: And also in stormwater management, we've currently got four projects that we'll be building in the next thirty days. [0:43:04, 0:43:07]: There are Bryant Street, North Lee Street, Metal Reeds [0:43:07, 0:43:12]: Drive and Davis Road, Mann Boulevard in North Henry, and Landover Drive and Davis Road. [0:43:12, 0:43:13]: These projects have [0:43:14, 0:43:24]: been talked about for about seven years now, so we're gonna get that moving and on the way. We're also doing a rate rate analysis of s of our stormwater rates to make sure that [0:43:24, 0:43:25]: Yeah. [0:43:25, 0:43:28]: at a level that supports the stormwater program. [0:43:30, 0:43:33]: Then we talk about streets. And right now we're in the process of [0:43:34, 0:43:40]: compiling our two thousand seventeen and twenty eighteen ALMIG resurfacing list. [0:43:40, 0:43:45]: And um that we should be finished with the two thousand seventeen list is [0:43:45, 0:43:52]: due by October we'll have that beaded out and hopefully we'll have it completed in November. [0:43:52, 0:43:55]: Then the two thousand eighteen list is due to DOT. [0:43:56, 0:44:08]: on January first, twenty eighteen. And what we're using as a guideline to guide us is we had a um analysis done of all the streets in the city of Stockbridge so that we're using scientific principles [0:44:08, 0:44:14]: And not just what looks bad to a person's eye, but we're using scientific principle to make sure that [0:44:15, 0:44:17]: We're resurfacing the streets that need it the most. [0:44:18, 0:44:21]: And also one of the things we're we're real proud about is [0:44:22, 0:44:28]: We m talked with George Powell and met with George Powell, as you might notice most communities are going to L E D street lights. [0:44:29, 0:44:33]: So we've signed a disconnect with Georgia Powell to start the process for the city of Stockbridge. [0:44:34, 0:44:36]: So hopefully in the fall of two thousand eighteen [0:44:37, 0:44:38]: We'll get moving with that. [0:44:38, 0:44:41]: And also we're gonna um [0:44:42, 0:44:43]: Davis Roseide, what project? [0:44:44, 0:44:47]: That's been talked about for a long time. Going back and forth with DOT. [0:44:48, 0:44:53]: hopefully in in November of this year we'll break ground on phase one of that project which would be from [0:44:54, 0:44:57]: North Henry Boulevard, Highway forty two down the Shields Road. [0:44:57, 0:45:00]: Then the second phase will be from Shields Road to Clark Park. [0:45:01, 0:45:03]: And then we're also gonna be um [0:45:04, 0:45:06]: In August. [0:45:06, 0:45:12]: That brick paver, I don't know if a lot of people pay attention to it on East Atlanta Road. We've had a lot of issues with it. [0:45:12, 0:45:14]: And so we're gonna repair it there. [0:45:15, 0:45:17]: and then it's proposed to start repairing it on [0:45:18, 0:45:20]: August the seventh, but I've got to meet with them [0:45:21, 0:45:23]: contractor to make sure we have sufficient. [0:45:23, 0:45:30]: notification time because it's gonna require us to close that portion of the road for twenty four hours and then we'll have to come back [0:45:30, 0:45:38]: two weeks later and close it again for twenty four hours. So we gotta make sure that we time it and do it right and see if we can possibly do it on the weekend and not during the week. [0:45:40, 0:45:42]: Then in our parks. [0:45:42, 0:45:44]: We're currently right now we got a uh [0:45:45, 0:45:49]: proposed allowed, they'll start the first week of August to resurface the tennis court. [0:45:50, 0:45:51]: At Gardner Park. [0:45:52, 0:45:55]: And also once they finish resurfacing that [0:45:56, 0:46:01]: We're gonna replace the fence, we'll have a brand new fence. We don't wanna patchwork it, we don't wanna invest all of that. [0:46:02, 0:46:07]: resources in there, having nice courts and then we go back with a patchwork fence. So we're gonna replace it. [0:46:07, 0:46:09]: And I think everybody's gonna be pleased with the finished project. [0:46:10, 0:46:17]: And also at Clark Park we've got the ADA playground going in. They're supposed to start that on August the twenty eighth. [0:46:17, 0:46:20]: We would have started earlier but we got a tasty Tuesday events. [0:46:21, 0:46:22]: in the park, so we delayed that. [0:46:23, 0:46:29]: And also we're gonna have the port in place a rubberized surface at the playground at Clark Park and the [0:46:30, 0:46:33]: eighty eight playground as well as that Reed's Creek Trail. [0:46:33, 0:46:40]: I know a lot of people when you go now we have the mulch there. When it rains the playground is unusable for like three or four days until it dries out. [0:46:41, 0:46:44]: But with the rubberized surface, ten minutes after it rains. [0:46:44, 0:46:50]: the water pretty much dissipates and you can go back playing on it so you don't have to worry about your kids getting muddy and things of that nature. [0:46:51, 0:46:56]: And also our vision for twenty eighteen and beyond is we talked about a splash pad. [0:46:57, 0:47:01]: We talked about security cameras for Clark Gardner and Memorial Park. [0:47:01, 0:47:06]: Clark Park, I know since I've been here a lot of traffic and activities on the walking trails. [0:47:06, 0:47:10]: And so we we've got cameras at Reed's Creek Trail. [0:47:10, 0:47:14]: And we want to make sure that everybody feels comfortable when they're using these facilities. [0:47:15, 0:47:17]: And one of the other things we're working on at the park is [0:47:17, 0:47:22]: at Clark Park. It's beginning to show some age. We got some air on the trail where [0:47:23, 0:47:32]: Roots are starting to buckle the asphalt so we've already discussed that. We're gonna replace those sections so we have a nice smooth walking trails for everyone that use it. [0:47:33, 0:47:50]: Then also we're gonna one of the things I don't know if a lot of people have seen these before, but where I'm from on your walking trails you have exercise stations where you can stop, maybe you can do push ups or get on a exercise bike and other things like that. So we'd like to install some of those that [0:47:50, 0:47:52]: Clark Park where we had a majority of our [0:47:53, 0:47:57]: uh people there visiting and walking. I also look at that at Reed's Creek Trail as well. [0:47:58, 0:48:00]: And then on the horizon [0:48:00, 0:48:03]: We wanna talk about what we got planned for the future. [0:48:04, 0:48:13]: And one of the things we we we've done I I think it's gonna be great for us is the on call landscaping, on call street repair, on call [0:48:13, 0:48:25]: water and sewer maintenance and beautification projects and inventing. I know a lot of people are concerned about how the facilities look. We're gonna be meeting with our current vendor. [0:48:25, 0:48:27]: We're gonna get a schedule. [0:48:27, 0:48:29]: That's the wind that comes in and replace plants. [0:48:29, 0:48:39]: I often they replace pine straw. We want to have everything in writing. So when you ride through Stockbridge, you go around facilities and search streetscapes and projects you look like [0:48:39, 0:48:47]: Wow, that was just done. We want to have him out here more frequently. So that it presents the image that the city of Stockbridge is trying to present. [0:48:48, 0:48:56]: And then the other thing I wanna talk about is is signage. We really would like to do something with that. This is our current way we advertise for events. [0:48:56, 0:48:56]: And [0:48:57, 0:49:05]: And it it's very time consuming, it t takes a lot of effort. Whenever it rains you have'em start drooping, then you have to go out and put'em back up. [0:49:05, 0:49:06]: We spent a lot of time [0:49:07, 0:49:08]: on those sides. [0:49:08, 0:49:10]: And then one of the other things too is [0:49:10, 0:49:13]: I think that if a business was advertising that way [0:49:14, 0:49:18]: As a city we probably would say something'cause I don't think it presents a real good image. [0:49:18, 0:49:23]: And so what I would propose is that we eventually start moving to [0:49:23, 0:49:28]: The monitors. The one right there is a Georgia Farmville. I'm naked on Bass Road. [0:49:29, 0:49:49]: You know, it's a digital monitor. Everybody that rides by they can see it. It presents a bright picture. The current signs right now, if if you're riding and you don't know, you really can't read the detail on that. But to have one of these possibly at City Hall on the North Henry side in East Atlanta, so when you come in through you can read those as well as the monumental. [0:49:49, 0:49:49]: [2989.7, 2991.0]: Uh um [0:49:51, 0:49:53]: Oh, eagle the land and far away. [0:49:53, 0:49:55]: And also we'll get some mobile signs. [0:49:55, 0:49:58]: for areas where we have high traffic like Flippin' Road and [0:49:59, 0:50:00]: North Henry and [0:50:01, 0:50:02]: Rock Warriors and North Henry. [0:50:02, 0:50:05]: But we just want to be coming to the [0:50:05, 0:50:07]: Twenty first century. [0:50:07, 0:50:10]: Take advantage of technology that is currently out there. [0:50:11, 0:50:14]: And that concludes my presentation. Any questions? [0:50:14, 0:50:20]: Do we have any questions? I'm gonna first let our audience ask questions and then we're gonna come to the council. [0:50:20, 0:50:23]: Miss Reed, I see you with your hand up in the back. [0:50:25, 0:50:31]: Uh if you everyone would uh come up so that we can give you a microphone to ask your question. [0:50:36, 0:50:40]: First of all, uh Mr Aaron, I appreciate your uh presentation. [0:50:40, 0:50:53]: And this is more personal to me while we're in subdivision, which it's been um a approximately for me, for what I can recall, about three and a half years, we've had this street corner at Creek View Overlook. [0:50:53, 0:51:05]: And Mr. Ridge. Now it's been brought to our board meeting and you know, it's been and we know that's been reported to the city and to now that you're new and it's been reported to you. But to me [0:51:06, 0:51:08]: B when I say it's personal, we're taking uh [0:51:09, 0:51:11]: What you're doing with the city is excellent. [0:51:12, 0:51:16]: But what about personal issues, personal meaning, the sidewalks? [0:51:16, 0:51:18]: Inside sub the subdivision. [0:51:18, 0:51:32]: And I think you have you been out there to see where it's caving in and it's getting progressively worse, in my opinion, to a point by the way our property inspect inspector is here and he knows that I call him. [0:51:32, 0:51:35]: Frequently, more frequently than I should. [0:51:35, 0:51:37]: Asking what did the city say? [0:51:37, 0:51:49]: Because sometimes it's best to let one person handle it so the communication flow can stay in place. I'm not taking over that job, but I just wanna comment publicly about that particular corner. [0:51:50, 0:51:56]: Yes, ma'am, I I did meet with them and w and one of the things as I told him out there, it it looks [0:51:57, 0:52:04]: from the naked eye that okay we just relay that area. But it's gonna take some work and I've got our engineers there working on it. [0:52:04, 0:52:24]: Because one of the worst things you can do is go out there if we overlay it with asphalt, then a month later you still got the same issue. We got to find out the reason why that is occurring and not like I say if I go we go over there and relay it aesthetically it looks beautiful, then a month later it it fails again, then you [0:52:24, 0:52:26]: you're like, well the city didn't. [0:52:26, 0:52:37]: fix it. We want to have a permanent fix. I I I liken to a lot of things that's going on. It's it's like in Matthew chapter seven. They talk about in verse twenty four through twenty eight. They talk about [0:52:37, 0:52:54]: The the wise builder, one built hills on a solid foundation, one built hills on sand. So when the storm came against it, the one built on a solid foundation stood. The one that built on the sand, it was washed away. So we don't wanna do temporary things that last [0:52:54, 0:53:14]: for a few days, we want to do something that's permanent. That once it's done, it's done and and we don't go back into that area. And and that's what we're doing. We're using sound engineering principles and practices to make permanent fixes to problems that have been going on for a while. So it's not that we haven't taken [0:53:14, 0:53:33]: Taking heed to what you've said and the fact that we visited out there, but we want to have a permanent s solution because I said we wanna build things on a solid foundation because these things gotta last beyond us. It's gotta be for our kids and our grandkids. And it's not just for the here and now, it's for it's for the future. [0:53:35, 0:53:44]: What do you mean on the board? [0:53:45, 0:53:49]: Obviously, I used to jump. [0:53:53, 0:53:58]: That's probably something that's an incident. [0:53:59, 0:54:00]: Uh [0:54:06, 0:54:24]: But see, I I think a lot of times we get caught up in we wanna be reactive. If Miss Smith calls me then I wanna get out there within a certain length of time and do something. So they say, Well they came out and did something. But a lot of times that might not be the right thing to do. You gotta sit aback sit back and ponder and say [0:54:25, 0:54:30]: Is it just for the here and now or is it permanent? Or is it long lasting? [0:54:31, 0:54:40]: And a and I just don't want to get caught up in spending money just to satisfy for the moment and it's not permanently addressing that issue. [0:54:41, 0:54:46]: Mr Aaron, let me ask a question just real quick from up here. [0:54:47, 0:55:07]: Um, I think I'm interpreting what you're saying to Miss Reed to mean that you all have that on a work list and the engineering folks are trying to help you s figure out what's the underlying cause before any more repairs are made and then you're going to do it and it's gonna be done right. Is that what I heard you say? [0:55:07, 0:55:07]: Right. [0:55:07, 0:55:08]: Yes, ma'am. [0:55:10, 0:55:14]: Okay, thank you. Do I have any other questions out in the audience? [0:55:16, 0:55:18]: Okay. Mr. Wendell? [0:55:19, 0:55:21]: I got one question for you. [0:55:21, 0:55:29]: You know, you and I met out there one time before and you told me I was concerned with standing water standing water at that intersection right there. [0:55:29, 0:55:34]: And you told me we had to wait'til it rained and you'd come out there and see it again. [0:55:34, 0:55:37]: We've had several storms and it has rained. [0:55:37, 0:55:42]: Now that one hole I was telling you about, I can take this walking stick [0:55:42, 0:55:46]: Put it down in there and run it any which way you want to. [0:55:47, 0:55:49]: So how long do you think that asphalt's gonna hold up? [0:55:50, 0:55:52]: Without anything holding it up from underneath. [0:55:53, 0:55:54]: That's my question. [0:55:54, 0:56:00]: Well, I I I think the road is okay the way it is right now, but that's why we got our engineers [0:56:00, 0:56:07]: looking at it because if I go out there and have some guys go out there and pour dirt in it or patch it, put asphalt in it. [0:56:08, 0:56:12]: And it the road is being undermined, then that doesn't solve that issue. [0:56:13, 0:56:15]: We gotta fix it permanently. [0:56:16, 0:56:18]: Do something that's gonna last. [0:56:19, 0:56:31]: Because it it's just like these brick pavers out here, they've been fixing for the last three or four years and they've never done up done a permanent fix and that's why we keep going back addressing the same same issue. [0:56:51, 0:56:52]: No sir. [0:56:57, 0:57:01]: Take a microphone. Take a microphone, please. [0:57:06, 0:57:08]: No I am the one. [0:57:10, 0:57:15]: What is the issue with the sidewalk over there? [0:57:17, 0:57:30]: Is there an issue with the sidewalk itself or issue because you can't walk on the sidewalk. Why can't is there a lack of sidewalk or lack of dirt and pouring over it, the weeds that's overtook it right there? [0:57:31, 0:57:43]: And it's just not being maintained right there. You put the sidewalk in but you don't maintain it. Where you need a sidewalk, they never put a sidewalk in. Well, I have somebody I know that you're new on the job. Don't don't get me wrong. [0:57:44, 0:57:47]: But we've been complaining about this for about seven years. Different things. [0:57:48, 0:57:52]: Mr. Reed Trail is like a roller coaster. The mayor went around there the other day and rode on it. [0:57:53, 0:57:56]: And where y'all have done the path where the public works. [0:57:56, 0:57:59]: have done repairs in the past. [0:57:59, 0:58:03]: is what's causing the problems in that because it wasn't done right. [0:58:03, 0:58:07]: I lived in that southern region. I built roads for twenty years. [0:58:08, 0:58:12]: And you know, I saw what they done, I saw how they done it. [0:58:12, 0:58:13]: And it's all done wrong. [0:58:14, 0:58:21]: Well I can't say what was done prior to my coming here, but I I I know the process I have and what and what I'm gonna do going forward. [0:58:22, 0:58:26]: You know, I I don't look at the past, I look at where we are now and where we're going in the future. [0:58:28, 0:58:32]: Thank you. Mayor. We have another question in the back. [0:58:34, 0:58:44]: Let me remind everyone that's a asking a question, do not give up the microphone until you're finished so that we can get all this recorded for the public, please. [0:58:46, 0:58:55]: Hey, uh I'm Miss Anderson and I live in Summerhill subdivision off of Banks Road and uh I wanted to uh thank you, Mayor Neal and the previous [0:58:56, 0:59:01]: City Manager for coming out and explaining us to us about the uh grading [0:59:01, 0:59:03]: up the streets during your resurfacing. [0:59:04, 0:59:06]: uh project. But my question now is [0:59:07, 0:59:12]: Is Mickey D. Cochrane Park part of city of Stockbridge or is that county? [0:59:14, 0:59:16]: This is a county's park. [0:59:16, 0:59:20]: Okay, that's what I needed to know because I had some questions about sidewalls. [0:59:21, 0:59:21]: Thank you. [0:59:22, 0:59:25]: Any other questions from the audience tonight? [0:59:29, 0:59:36]: Who is uh when when the city signs off on these home or these uh subdivisions? [0:59:38, 0:59:39]: Who is liable? [0:59:39, 0:59:41]: If they disturb [0:59:42, 0:59:47]: Two or three years later or whatever time goes by and you start f finding all this stuff [0:59:48, 0:59:50]: But I mean well [0:59:50, 0:59:57]: Who's liable for putting in faulty stuff? I mean anybody can go in and put something in and make it look good and then it falls apart. [0:59:58, 1:00:06]: Well in most municipalities our ordinance ordinances and would cover that as far as like maintenance periods and warranty periods for roles and infrastructure. [1:00:06, 1:00:08]: It there's normally [1:00:08, 1:00:22]: Uh, depends on the municipality, three or five years warranty period on the roads, one year on the water and sewer infrastructure and stormwater infrastructure. I don't know what the city's current process is or what their standards are. [1:00:22, 1:00:25]: as far as the the maintenance of the roads and infrastructure. [1:00:29, 1:00:40]: Any other questions out in the audience? If not, we'll move to the council dais and see. We'll start with Mr Alexander and move down. Anyone have a question? [1:00:40, 1:00:52]: Robinson was before me out there. Thank you, sir. Okay. Ms. Robinson will start on her end. Thank you, Mayor. Um I just want to say thank you. Um great presentation. Um extremely um [1:00:53, 1:01:13]: I'm I'm truly ready for the signage to change. I bought this before council and our previous city manager last year. That is definitely needed. So if we can definitely get on that with the signage, um bringing that forth to us, um what it's gonna take, um because I think um the city manager he [1:01:13, 1:01:31]: He did have some ideas and he bought forth a couple of things but if you can definitely do that, I think that will bring us like you said uh up into the modern age, what we're in right now. So um again thank you for all the hard work that you're doing um in public works and I I really appreciate this presentation. [1:01:32, 1:01:45]: May I I I wanna I need to uh have the record reflect that Councilman Alexander has joined the meeting at six thirty two. Okay. Please put that in the record. Six thirty two. Mr. Count uh Mr. Alexander joined the group. [1:01:46, 1:01:50]: Um I have a quick question uh that I think the audience would find um [1:01:50, 1:02:00]: Interesting. Can you define out of all those twenty nine, thirty projects that you have underway right now, how m how much of that is spliced money? [1:02:01, 1:02:06]: Which is that extra penny sales tax money that we pay. [1:02:06, 1:02:18]: And uh we collect a lot of that from people that travel throughout the nation through our community. So tell us how much of these projects is being funded by Splost or or and just a estimate. [1:02:18, 1:02:22]: Out of the thirty, tw at least twenty three of'em are splashed. [1:02:22, 1:02:32]: Do you hear that audience, twenty three of these projects are uh splice money. So that helps you to understand why we can move so many projects forward. [1:02:32, 1:02:35]: Um at one time. Thank you for answering that. [1:02:35, 1:02:37]: No. Yes, Miss Gayant. [1:02:37, 1:02:38]: Um [1:02:39, 1:02:46]: Camdacious uh Mr. Aaron, I just wanted to thank you for the hard work you've done thus far. It has been [1:02:46, 1:03:02]: phenomenal. Um you came right in and stepped in. Um the you know, the vetting process and looking for a a public works director. Um and you've been amazing. And thus far I'm just [1:03:03, 1:03:06]: I I wanna say thank you. I wanna thank thank you for [1:03:06, 1:03:26]: continuing on with the projects that you have going. Um all the things that you see we want to do and you're getting the job done. And I just I'm really appreciative of that. Um one of th um the signage as uh councilwoman m Robinson has mentioned [1:03:26, 1:03:46]: Um she did mention that last year and and you're bringing that about. The splash pad, we've been dealing with that for it since twenty thirteen and you're bringing that about and and just the research and doing things on the schedule in which you you've gotten your crew. And I know that our crew, um, you know, it it takes a team effort. [1:03:46, 1:03:55]: But it also takes a great leader and um the crew, everyone at public works, uh I'm just I wanna say thank you. [1:03:55, 1:03:57]: Well, thank you very much and probably works. [1:03:58, 1:04:04]: All right, thank you. Any other questions of Mr Aaron? Yes, ma'am, if you don't mind. [1:04:04, 1:04:24]: Mr. You mentioned about the uh construct of a city hall annex, just for clarification. That's the space where we right the old flower shop used to be this uh this little place right outside the back park parking lot, right? [1:04:24, 1:04:35]: since that would be a place where people will have to interact with finance and customer service and things of that nature so they can walk next door and not have to drive from one location to another. [1:04:35, 1:04:44]: All right. And the old fire station at Welcome Center that would be we're looking at the main street to be in at that location is what you I believe what you're indicating here. Yes. Okay. [1:04:45, 1:05:05]: Um in reference to public works department and the water department of that uh vision for twenty eighteen, you said replace plastic service lines. Is that additional plastic service lines or that's gonna be uh brass or what what is that replacement? [1:05:05, 1:05:15]: service leaks off. So we're gonna go in and replace those with the copper services that we now have for the majority of our system just to make it more reliable and to eliminate those [1:05:16, 1:05:17]: Don't really. [1:05:17, 1:05:18]: Okay. [1:05:18, 1:05:29]: Uh once uh another question here in reference to replacing street lights, forty six seventeen North Henry Boulevard. Eight lights that we own making LEDs, fifteen thousand dollars. [1:05:30, 1:05:35]: I'm assuming it's may I don't know if it's a fair question or not, but I'm assuming that [1:05:35, 1:05:36]: That if we wanted to [1:05:37, 1:05:39]: Replace lights in subdivisions. [1:05:40, 1:05:40]: Okay. [1:05:41, 1:06:01]: probably be the same cost uh I would think. Is that right? Not necessarily okay. That is different. Okay. Uh these lights were owned by the city and that was one of the lighting spots that we identified with Mr. Harris early on when there were some lights in Clark Park and Garden Park and I think some at City Hall that needed to be replaced. And these are [1:06:01, 1:06:10]: owned by the city. So they're not Georgia Power. They were Georgia Power they could do without a call. But in the subdivision when Georgia Power comes in, they're gonna change the current lights out to LED lights. [1:06:10, 1:06:30]: They'll do that themselves. And so we won't have to pay that. No. Okay. That's that's good to know in that aspect. Uh stand by one second, please. Oh yeah. Uh reference to the current signage and and going with uh the digital type signs, it w which is a great thing to do, but those have to go on city owned property I'm assuming. [1:06:30, 1:06:50]: Huh. We we uh if if we were like say Rock Party and North Henry, we would have one of the mobile signs like the arrow boards or message boards you have. We would use those at at those locations so that they can be changed or we can move them from a a place where they're very visible, you have a high traffic. [1:06:50, 1:07:00]: closely we have traffic camps through that area. But I just think the current signs we have we really can't read'em. I try to read'em when I come and I'm like unless you know the dates [1:07:01, 1:07:14]: then you know it is not and is there it's not problematic. Okay, I understand that's that's I mean it's a good thing and I think uh yeah y y you're pretty sure I think we have a consensus of the council on something like that. But I I guess my once again [1:07:14, 1:07:34]: on those'cause some of those signs that we presently have are on not on city owned property, my s uh that I recall. So my assumption is if we go to the more electronic signs, we'll probably have to s since they're permanent, they'll probably have to s remain on city owned property and not other type of s uh owner property from other businesses or whatever. [1:07:34, 1:07:49]: Like the monitors, the large monsters, I would recommend the monster, Month Henry, and East Atlanta Road and I I I think the city owns that monument up there on the side. Oh yeah, well got that's true. And that area is a high track area. Okay. And then the other areas you you do some over there. [1:07:50, 1:07:52]: All right, all right. Thank you. I appreciate the briefing. [1:07:54, 1:07:56]: Any other questions from the dais? Yes. [1:07:56, 1:07:58]: Uh Mr. Ballant. [1:07:59, 1:08:01]: Uh one is gonna be a question and one is a concern. [1:08:03, 1:08:08]: Uh with the ongoing intrusion of water for the uh municipal building and the [1:08:09, 1:08:10]: uh City Hall. [1:08:11, 1:08:14]: with the Jacob Engineering and Carlisle company. [1:08:15, 1:08:35]: First of all, the monies that's been given to them already, do we have any recourse of any any monies from them because they are abundant correctly? I would have to refer to the uh. Okay. I I would recommend that we move away from them. I think they had a this is not some all due respect, it's not about moving away from them. I'm I'm for that. [1:08:35, 1:08:37]: Because nothing is getting done. [1:08:37, 1:08:40]: But for the money we've invested in them. [1:08:40, 1:08:43]: Do we have any recourse for any money coming back to us? [1:08:45, 1:08:45]: Yeah. [1:08:47, 1:08:48]: Okay, concern. [1:08:49, 1:08:58]: If we move to another company and you you mentioned that Falcon has recommended a company, my concern is is to bring in a company without putting the RFP out. [1:08:58, 1:09:00]: I don't never I don't want us to get into that practice. [1:09:01, 1:09:20]: Well, the the thing about it is if we do a RFP then we'll have to get our engineers to to write it up specifically to deal with that issue. Because if we do it any other way then you'll get ten different ways to fix it and then you gotta try to figure out which one is the correct way. [1:09:21, 1:09:25]: Well then that's what we hire you for to find out out of those ten different ways. [1:09:25, 1:09:27]: You tell us what's the best way because if we get into [1:09:28, 1:09:30]: Contracting without the matter RFP. [1:09:31, 1:09:44]: then we put ourselves in a in in future situations where it could be a fe it could be potential for litigation in the future. [1:09:45, 1:09:46]: Where does that amount? [1:09:46, 1:09:48]: I think it's a it's a hundred. [1:09:48, 1:09:50]: If it's less than a hundred thousand [1:09:51, 1:09:52]: Public works projects. [1:09:53, 1:10:02]: Please talk into the microphone so the public watching on T V. Public works projects, some projects if they're a hundred thousand dollars or less you can do'em without bidding them out. [1:10:04, 1:10:06]: Fifty thousand or me, fifty thousand or less. [1:10:06, 1:10:09]: Well I'm pretty sure this is gonna see. [1:10:15, 1:10:19]: Well, that's what I'm saying. My concern is if we don't do an R a P [1:10:20, 1:10:39]: what what road do we go down when when we when we start doing those type of things because of a recommendation from a firm that probably recommended somebody that they know and we don't want to get in look like we're getting into the buddy system other than putting the R F P out and getting the best firm in here to do the do the job. I think [1:10:39, 1:10:41]: Let me ask our attorney, he's [1:10:41, 1:10:51]: Would you like to talk about this later b or go ahead and explain that Falcon Engineering is on contract with us to be our advisor? [1:10:51, 1:10:54]: Often is on contrast and [1:10:54, 1:11:14]: getting design services really about them if there's a way you can use them and and aid the subcontractor who are the other phone. That that's one route if you wanted to go that direction. Um but the city procurement policy goes above and beyond like [1:11:14, 1:11:34]: Work a uh uh state ball required. And so for lower than this work, your finance director required, we typically want to get three kids and things of that sort. Um, unless we uh characterize it as professional service development, in which case in some cases we can decide. [1:11:34, 1:11:44]: this a bad process. So I would probably want to talk to uh the public works director and we can have a conversation about the best route to get the best voice. [1:11:45, 1:11:52]: I I would ask that this process be made clear to council in whatever direction we take because [1:11:53, 1:11:59]: I wouldn't want this to go in a direction that could potentially put us in a in an interesting situation later on. [1:11:59, 1:12:07]: It the only reason I mentioned that this problem's been going on for so long. I wanna get it. Give him a microphone if you would. [1:12:11, 1:12:27]: This the only reason I would consider that like I said, Falcon has worked with them. The company has a good reputation. I spoke with some folks while I'm at the public works managers meeting and they speak highly of'em. I'm just trying this issue and the air conditioning issue, these are two issues that [1:12:28, 1:12:32]: Keep me up at night. How do I resolve those? How do I get'em [1:12:33, 1:12:52]: completed like on the air conditioner. Somebody's coming on August the third gonna do a complete evaluation of the system. Do we need to re replace it or can it be repaired? But these are two issues, water intrusion in the city hall and into the municipal building and the air conditioner. Those are the things that are the biggest challenges. And I'm just trying to find a way [1:12:53, 1:12:56]: to as expediently as possible if it [1:12:57, 1:13:00]: Can get us to that resolution. [1:13:01, 1:13:04]: The position the City Hall would be in. [1:13:05, 1:13:07]: Would be pertaining to the choices we make. [1:13:08, 1:13:11]: I just want to make sure we're making good choices. [1:13:11, 1:13:17]: If it's been broke for so long, let's make sure we make the right choices to get it repaired. [1:13:18, 1:13:38]: If it doesn't get fixed, it falls on me. And that's one of the things like I say those are my two biggest challenges I want to resolve is fix those water intrusions into these two facilities and the air conditioning. That has caused more heartburn since I've been here than anything that I could think of. You know, it's like every time you think [1:13:38, 1:13:42]: think you've got gotta repair it with the water. It rains and [1:13:42, 1:13:45]: Go downstairs like I did today, I'm like, Oh [1:13:45, 1:13:47]: We thought it we thought it was fixed. [1:13:47, 1:13:55]: And I'm just, you know, trying to do a process that somebody says, Hey, it will work and we'll warranty the work and [1:13:55, 1:14:04]: And I'm just trying to get a resolution to it. No, do it good. And do it quickly because the longer it goes, some other things can happen. [1:14:05, 1:14:06]: Yeah. [1:14:07, 1:14:15]: Um hold on just one second. Are you finished, Mr. Floyd? Okay. I guess my question is to the attorney and so we can [1:14:15, 1:14:33]: see about this. Is there a way that this can be considered like an emergency type situation that we can just act upon so that way he can go ahead and take care of this because it is a need for the citizens because they're coming into this building and you know, so is there something legal that this can take place? [1:14:35, 1:14:37]: Oh the way it's good. [1:14:38, 1:14:41]: Or a half hour. [1:14:43, 1:14:49]: I thought that we we can sit down and what we just got as a different way we can say. [1:14:49, 1:14:49]: Thank you. [1:14:50, 1:14:56]: Manuel. Yes. Um in two thousand eight nine [1:14:56, 1:14:57]: Um uh [1:14:58, 1:15:18]: ten, I was a solicitor over in that court building. And beyond that, there have been serious health serious problems that the council really needs to take a look at. Um and I there to the point where um there's been mold [1:15:18, 1:15:20]: [4520.6, 4523.9]: um different things that we really need [1:15:24, 1:15:25]: To get done. [1:15:26, 1:15:40]: And because we need to get those items done, I'm all for whatever public works needs to do to get those items done. Um I I also [1:15:40, 1:15:43]: Well, I I also think that um [1:15:44, 1:15:49]: We should look also into the amount of money that we've spent thus far. [1:15:49, 1:16:02]: in those buildings because if the then we've tried to get them to work before. We've had people come even as of last year that stated they could stop the leaks. Um [1:16:03, 1:16:06]: Even here in Stockbridge build in in our main city hall building. [1:16:07, 1:16:23]: And especially over in the courtroom, we need to look at I I I would recommend that we look at the past on what we spent to stop those leaks um and what we've done in the past to get that done and see if it there the process is the same or different. [1:16:24, 1:16:30]: Um, because the solution has not yet been fixed and there have been multiple [1:16:31, 1:16:37]: attempts for years going on eight, nine years that I know of. [1:16:38, 1:16:40]: So I just want that to be known. [1:16:41, 1:16:45]: Are there any other comments from Mr. Um Mr Alexander? [1:16:46, 1:17:06]: I I would generally say to the public the town hall is for your opportunity to interact and I thank Mr Error for uh being out here and uh addressing the issues on hand. I'll I'll try to keep it a little succeeding, a couple of minutes if I can. The results have not been good. [1:17:06, 1:17:24]: We think and I believe that we have the right man on the job in order to fix the problem. We've gone around and around with um a lot of these situations and the RFP process itself is flawed. [1:17:24, 1:17:29]: Many a times. Why? Because it does not grade on quality. [1:17:30, 1:17:47]: it picks the lowest bidder. And sometimes the lowest bidder is the lowest bidder for a reason, because they can't do the job or they do poor quality work. So sometimes having a process where we have Falcon Design who is our engineer [1:17:48, 1:18:01]: we have to rely on them in order to do what they need to do. If they're not doing the job, we might need to replace them. But the processes, as Mr Aaron has stated, dictate that we want to do it right. [1:18:01, 1:18:08]: We want to get it right and we wanna have quality people performing those services uh for the city. [1:18:09, 1:18:29]: So, in essence, I have confidence in Mr. Aaron that he's gonna make sure that we are on a solid foundation, just like he said, moving forward. I don't judge him based on what has happened in the past. I don't judge this council based on what has happened in the past. You elect [1:18:28, 1:18:37]: Us because you didn't like what was going on in the past. I can tell you right now, I'm not satisfied with the results. [1:18:38, 1:18:41]: Mr. Aaron is not satisfied with the results. [1:18:41, 1:18:43]: We go down Highway one hundred thirty eight [1:18:44, 1:19:04]: I'm not satisfied with the results. We go down North Henry Boulevard. I'm not satisfied with the results. But I'm satisfied with the fact that we have a plan that has been put in place and we have constant dialogue about do we have enough staff in place? And I think we've had clear dialogue in that. [1:19:04, 1:19:10]: that Mr Aaron, whatever you need in order for us to fix the problem, whether it is more staff [1:19:11, 1:19:27]: and we have endeavored to hire independent contractors. You know, government sometimes we can't do it all. Sometimes the private contractors can endeavor to do what they need to do. I know that I have in my mind when I see the vision, I see [1:19:28, 1:19:48]: And don't I see Buckhead, I see Vinings, I see Smyrna, I see downtown McDonough, which looked flawless when I went down there today. And I'm not gonna rest until we get to that level of service here in McDonough, where the grass is cut and everything is laid out. But now I do have a question. [1:19:48, 1:20:08]: In terms of um we talked about the splash pad. In terms of we have special needs equipment uh at um Memorial Park and at Clark Park. There has been some in the news lately, Texas uh has a special needs water park or splash pad where there [1:20:08, 1:20:27]: There was some adaptive equipment that was able so everybody that equipment could be inclusive as well. And I would like to see that uh implemented here if we g when we go for forward with the splash pad that we have uh special needs equipment and tied into that as well. [1:20:28, 1:20:48]: I think when we we talk about the splash pad and discuss it we need to decide what off what features do we want. I know it's the ice ring and also whatever features we think or feel should be a part of that, then we we want to sit down when we decide, okay, it's gonna go XYZ, wherever it's gonna go, we make the decision. [1:20:48, 1:20:55]: season on location, then we has out what features do we want it included in that in that splash pad. [1:20:57, 1:21:17]: Uh absolutely. And the next question that I would just have would be um in terms of uh if we could explain to the public a little bit what we're doing to address these issues in terms of um uh on call, which they may or they may not understand, which is hiring private contractors in order to uh serve [1:21:17, 1:21:20]: supplement what the city is doing in order to raise the standard. [1:21:21, 1:21:41]: But one of the things we're doing with the the on call landscape and I'm excited about is it gives us a valuable tool to use. The city of Stockbridge currently has about nine individuals that cut all the grass in the city of Stockbridge and it and maintain the streets and things of that nature. But we [1:21:40, 1:22:00]: We sent out a RFP and had everybody bid on what it would cost to cut every street in s and stop grid. So without having to take on a large amount of staff and buy equipment and things of that nature, we have a a vendor that we can call and say, Well, we need you to cut North Henry Boulevard today or [1:22:00, 1:22:20]: We need to cut rock quarry or Walt Stevens or Flippin' Roll. We already know what the price's gonna be. They'll come in and cut that for us. And also if we want to increase the frequency, say, hey, well we want to cut every week during the growing season, we'll have that available to us. So I'm very excited about that. I'm excited about the on call street repair. [1:22:20, 1:22:40]: Because a lot of times we're trying to repair streets. We don't have access to asphalt. The plant's not running, but a vendor might have multiple sources that we don't have available to us. And a lot of times asphalt company ain't gonna start up a plant to run one ton of asphalt for anybody. But I think with having that private vendor that can't [1:22:40, 1:23:00]: can go out and do things for you. It's gonna do a lot of great things for us. And then the other one is the beautification piece. The um places we have in the city, the streetscapes and things like that, you know, getting them on a more frequent basis to be maintained. And that'll allow us to focus our attention on being in the neighborhoods and doing things in the neighborhoods. [1:23:00, 1:23:02]: And not having to worry about some of the other [1:23:03, 1:23:10]: downtown uh features and infrastructure. One final question. We put forty thousand dollars extra [1:23:10, 1:23:12]: into the budget this year. [1:23:13, 1:23:23]: it specifically targeted toward improving uh the expressway exits and maybe streetscapes in doing that. What is this where [1:23:24, 1:23:40]: What what are we doing with that and how has that been implemented specifically maybe the mayor or or someone up here can answer that in terms of how we spent those forty thousand dollars in funds specifically targeted to uh Highway one hundred thirty eight Hudson Bridge? [1:23:40, 1:23:43]: Well you know, we hadn't expended those funds yet because [1:23:44, 1:23:46]: Henry County and Clayton County were [1:23:47, 1:23:50]: Proposing to get a contract done. [1:23:50, 1:24:10]: was finalized then we'll use that money to fund our portion of that project or that contract. So we're waiting to hear from them when they finalize that. It was dealing with um ho exit two twenty eight, six seventy five, exit one, and I think it was some on North Henry as well as on Eagles Landing Parkway and Hudson Bridge. So [1:24:10, 1:24:17]: So we'll wait and as soon as they finalize that contract then we're on board with it because we're we're part of that agreement. [1:24:18, 1:24:18]: Thank you so much. [1:24:20, 1:24:22]: Any other questions of Mr Aaron? [1:24:23, 1:24:29]: If not, we appreciate your presentation. I understand Councilman Blonde I [1:24:30, 1:24:50]: I'm there with you. But I I'm just trying to find a resolution to this project. I don't wanna be next year we steal well we got water over there. And I I think the the individuals I talk with, I've talked to our engineers, Father does a uh excellent job and the folks I spoken with said the process that they're proposing it works. [1:24:50, 1:24:55]: And I just if y'all give me the go ahead, it's twenty eight thousand three hundred dollars to move forward with [1:24:56, 1:25:11]: resolving this as soon as we find out what we can do with Jacobs and Carlisle, what recourse we have with them because I just don't want to keep this lingering'cause every day it goes on is undermining the building and and the infrastructure within that building. [1:25:11, 1:25:13]: Let me um let me make this clear. [1:25:14, 1:25:23]: because when we we talk about RFPs and we can talk on different levels of RFPs and I understand I'm with you when it comes to getting projects done. [1:25:24, 1:25:27]: But as as an elected official [1:25:27, 1:25:33]: I need to make sure that when we get them done, they're done in the process. [1:25:34, 1:25:41]: is a process that's conducive to what's the right way to do it. I want the project done, we're together on that. [1:25:42, 1:26:02]: I'm whatever process we're gonna go through to make that happen, whatever the whatever we can do to make that happen quickly, I wanna make it happen. My concerns to me is a valid concern. Uh we can belittle what RPs do and all that all we want to, but whatever process is put in place, I just want to make sure [1:26:02, 1:26:04]: So that process is what [1:26:04, 1:26:24]: the best process in order that it's fair for not just this project but but for future projects that come through the city. Yes, I understand. Before we move forward with it we'll come back before council. One last thing I mentioned earlier the tennis course. We're gonna take that fence down starting this week. And the cost is we got a vendor that [1:26:24, 1:26:32]: that we already have is eighteen thousand three hundred dollars to replace that fence. And I'd rather see us go back with a new fence than patchwork the other one. [1:26:32, 1:26:46]: So if I can get a consensus to say that's okay'cause the first week in August they're gonna start repairing the tennis courts. And we wanna like say once they're out of there and done, we wanna have a brand new shiny fence. We don't want somebody to say [1:26:47, 1:26:48]: He did all this and left it. [1:26:49, 1:26:59]: You know, fence up looking like that. We want to look like it's brand new. And it is gonna be brand new, but we want that aesthetically pleasing tennis facility. [1:27:00, 1:27:01]: Mayor. [1:27:03, 1:27:05]: Any other questions from the dais? [1:27:05, 1:27:07]: Any other comments from Mr. Erwin? [1:27:08, 1:27:21]: If not, Mr. Aaron. Yes. Over here. Oh, sorry. Um, Mayor, this question is for you. What do we n um he need is the requesting a consensus? Can we do that tonight or do we need to wait? [1:27:22, 1:27:24]: Mr. Attorney, what would you recommend? [1:27:27, 1:27:36]: All right. So we'll we have a motion. Do I hear a second? [1:27:37, 1:27:39]: All right. [1:27:40, 1:27:42]: At this time is there any discussion? [1:27:43, 1:27:47]: Yes, is this offer funds that are already for Splash funds that are already out of it? [1:27:48, 1:27:48]: Okay. [1:27:49, 1:27:49]: Okay. [1:27:50, 1:27:53]: All right. Uh we've had discussion. Any other comments? [1:27:54, 1:27:58]: Yeah, Neil, I would just make a request who is the um [1:28:14, 1:28:15]: Panie Przewodniczący. [1:28:15, 1:28:23]: All right. Uh Madam Clerk, would you repeat that over the microphone, the name of the fence company? Yeah. L I N D A V I D [1:28:25, 1:28:28]: Fence company and the amount is eighteen thousand three hundred dollars. [1:28:28, 1:28:29]: All right, thank you. [1:28:30, 1:28:32]: All right, thank you. All in favour? Please vote. [1:28:33, 1:28:34]: Okay. [1:28:34, 1:28:36]: All right. Thank you so much, Mr. Eric. [1:28:37, 1:28:38]: Motion passes. [1:28:38, 1:28:44]: Now this time we're gonna call up another one of our newer employees who's doing a great job, Camilla Moore. [1:28:45, 1:28:50]: community development director and let her tell us about what's going on in her department. [1:29:00, 1:29:10]: I'm sorry, I'm very um thank you for the chair and I just offer a moment of uh thanks to Councilman for that. [1:29:13, 1:29:17]: Uh that's a little bit out of order, but we're gonna let you do that. Go ahead, please. [1:29:30, 1:29:35]: Need a mic? Need a mic? You need a mic? [1:29:36, 1:29:56]: Camilla, you've been upstaged. You're just gonna have to wait a minute for me. So because there will be no inaugural youth council without the um diligence of Councilwoman Robinson, we just wanted to offer our token of thanks. I've heard it said that no job is done until you begin training your replacement. So we just wanted [1:29:56, 1:29:59]: to thank her for her investment in the youth. [1:30:00, 1:30:00]: Thanks. [1:30:01, 1:30:02]: Pani Przewodnicząca. [1:30:07, 1:30:18]: Okay, we're gonna go back to our formal agenda right now, and that is to have Camilla Moore present to us what is going on in the Department of Community Development. Is this the one that's on here, I think? [1:30:38, 1:30:41]: I did. I have the five um. Mm-hmm. [1:30:49, 1:30:53]: No good evening everyone. How's everyone doing? [1:30:54, 1:30:55]: Mm-hmm. [1:30:55, 1:31:05]: My name is Camilla Moore. I'm the Director of Community Development and what we're here to do tonight is provide you an update on what we're doing in the community development division and department. [1:31:06, 1:31:08]: Um every department should have a vision. [1:31:08, 1:31:11]: And what you see on the screen is our vision. [1:31:11, 1:31:13]: in our mission statement. [1:31:13, 1:31:17]: And rather than taking a lot of time to read it as I talk, I'm gonna let you read it. [1:31:18, 1:31:23]: But I think what's most important for us is our mission statement and that means service first. [1:31:23, 1:31:43]: The mission of our department is to create strong, vibrant, and sustaining communities through the administration and management of diverse programs and initiatives which promote the growth and enhancements of the city citizenry through the introduction of new economic development, housing and business opportunities, improved quality of life standards. [1:31:43, 1:31:59]: in cultural educ education and enrichment practices. And what that means for us and our department is we need to get it done, we need to get it done quickly, and we need to make sure that your quality of life is what you expect as taxpayers and residents of the city of Stockbridge. [1:32:00, 1:32:03]: The next chart is our organizational chart. This is who we are. [1:32:03, 1:32:23]: Within the community development department, we currently have planning and zoning, which is urban planning, code enforcement, which goes out and does code enforcement, business services, is where our occupational tax. We have a new division coming online, which is building and permitting, and then there's a project management division, which I will talk with you shortly as we go through this presentation. [1:32:23, 1:32:24]: Yeah. [1:32:25, 1:32:30]: Who are we and what exactly is planning is zoning? This gives you an idea of who we are. [1:32:31, 1:32:51]: With Henley County in our partnership with us, we do zoning administration, we provide long and short range planning, we do comprehensive planning and land use, we do environmental planning, developmental reviews, we do an ongoing analysis and update of our ordinances, and of course we always look at the possibilities of how annexation [1:32:51, 1:32:56]: and the solidification of solidifying our boundaries come into play. [1:32:56, 1:33:16]: That's what we do in the planning and development division. Now, here's an update of what we've done uh in the last couple of months. Uh we're responsible for issuing signed permits. We've issued 30 of those. In terms of rezoning, we've done three. In terms of variances, we've done two. In terms of development meetings, we've had fifty. [1:33:16, 1:33:32]: In terms of site review, signs off, we've done 37. In terms of GIS mapping for the city, we've done 125 different types of maps and layers. And in terms of site visits, we've done fifty. So what does that mean? That means in terms of [1:33:33, 1:33:36]: of development for the city of Stockbridge, we are seeing a shift [1:33:37, 1:33:57]: In terms of the development. As most of you know, our economy took a slump in around 2008 when the housing bottom just went bottom out. And so it's taken up until last year, uh uh at the end of 2016, for us to see a rebound in the economy. So while these numbers are very small in terms of resources. [1:33:57, 1:34:17]: zoning and in terms of um development meetings, we anticipate for those numbers to double by this time next year simply because the industry in terms of development has turned around. And not to mention that the City of Stockbridge has a couple of major projects on tap, which is the Jodico project and others. [1:34:17, 1:34:20]: So we hope to see those numbers increase tremendously. [1:34:20, 1:34:24]: What are some of the other development activities that the zoning division does? [1:34:24, 1:34:33]: One, we've just put out an RFP for permitting and building inspections and I promise you, Counselor, we're gonna put the pick the lowest and most responsive. [1:34:33, 1:34:41]: to what we need because you're right, our RFPs are not correct. I mean in terms of what you get, but we're going to try to get the most responsive. Uh what [1:34:42, 1:35:02]: That we look for in that RFP. Currently, all of our services are being provided by Henry County, and what we want to do is bring this element of permitting and building inspection back to the city of Stockbridge. Why is that important? If someone goes to the county, it may take them three or four or ten days to get a permit and go to that project. [1:35:02, 1:35:22]: process by bringing back in-house we can do that within twenty-four to forty-eight hours. What that means is that every time that someone comes in and they want to break ground, they're able to do it more quickly. And as you know, for those of you who are involved in the development community, every day is a dollar. And as soon as you can break ground and get construction underway [1:35:22, 1:35:42]: And that's money that they make, and that's dollars they can save. So therefore, the City of Stockbridge understands that it's important that our developers who want to build on our community have the opportunity to do it as quickly and expeditiously as possible. And we hope to have this in place no later than September so that we can actually [1:35:41, 1:36:01]: Control our permitting and our building inspections. Why is building inspections important? There are a lot of businesses, both residential and non-residential, in the city of Stock Bridge, that probably have never been inspected in terms of compliance with codes. And so for the first time, the City of Stockbridge will be able to go out and look at both residential structural. [1:36:01, 1:36:21]: structures and commercial structures to make sure that everyone is working in a safe and sound structure and that they are able to work there without fearing that they can be harmed in some capacity because the building is not sound. The other thing that the permitting allows us to do, it allows us to know exactly what development is on tap. [1:36:21, 1:36:41]: Coming into the city of Stockbridge. At this point in time, we have no way of knowing what's actually going to hit the ground until much later because we don't issue the permits. This will give the elected body and the city officials an opportunity to know beforehand, before anything, before any dirt is graded, before any land is touched. [1:36:41, 1:36:50]: what developments are coming into the city, which gives them an opportunity to let the citizens know what is coming to our neighborhood within a couple of days. [1:36:51, 1:37:11]: Ordinance update. A lot of our ordinance up ordinances are out of date. Uh so we're in the process of updating those to make sure that they meet the needs of our citizens today. Uh the ordinance is a huge document, and so what we're doing, we're taking them section by section. And this Thursday, um the Planning Commission, the zoning advisory [1:37:11, 1:37:27]: Board will have the first opportunity to look at the first set of ordinance updates so that we can review them. Then we'll go to a public comment and hearing, and then we will bring those before Mayor and Council to actually make a decision on. Highway 138 overlay design standard. [1:37:27, 1:37:45]: As you know, corridors are very important to any community. And most of you probably come down Highway one thirty eight and yes it weaves in and out. It goes in from Clayton County to Henry County to the city of Stockbridge. But one thing's that's unique to all of those jurisdictions is Highway one hundred thirty eight. [1:37:45, 1:38:05]: So, how do we make Highway 138 the place of destination for all the folks that are going from Florida to New York and they want to stop at the exits of Highway 138 and spend all their money? That means that all three jurisdictions need to make Highway 38 a place of destination by making it beautiful. So, what this overlay design [1:38:05, 1:38:08]: my standard does is that it makes it beautiful. [1:38:08, 1:38:10]: It makes it pretty. [1:38:10, 1:38:27]: It makes it inviting. And this design these design standards will be consistent with those that are done by Henry County as well as those that's been done by Clayton County so that we will have consistency along Highway thirty eight and we can get all the money from everyone that doesn't don't live in Henry County. [1:38:28, 1:38:44]: The next one is Davis Road Sidewalk Improvement. Daisy spoke a little bit about that. We've been waiting on this project to come online for a long time. Uh GDOT is moving rather quickly. We're gonna do a widening along there and then we're going to put the sidewalks along Davis Road and that's gonna be pretty too. [1:38:45, 1:39:05]: Rock quarry road widening. Uh we're still waiting to see if that's gonna take off. Uh the city monies are in place, however, we're looking to see what matching funds or contributing dollars are gonna come from the county so that we can finalize what rock quarry road um widening will look like. And so we know that it's gonna bring [1:39:05, 1:39:25]: heartburn to a lot of communities simply because the road was planned so long ago until it's just now happening and unfortunately a lot of individuals who are now living in an area are going to be impacted. So you know our roles as a city is to see how we can mitigate as much of the impact as possible and how do [1:39:25, 1:39:45]: We allow something to come in so that their quality of life is not affected, that it becomes an enhancement, but we mitigate the impact for the road widening. The Joeco South Road mixed use development, as you all are aware, that is one of our key projects for the city of Stockbridge. You know where it's located. It is a mixed-use development. [1:39:45, 1:39:57]: We're hoping that within the next twelve to eighteen months that ground will be broken and we all can see some progress on the development and we think that that will be a place of destination not only for the people in Stockbridge but for the region. [1:39:58, 1:40:18]: The next one is Pine Growth Subdivision. We have a couple of subdivisions where there's certain facilities within those subdivisions present a life health safety issue. And what the city is embracing upon is looking within those subdivisions in which the clubhouses are not being maintained or the windows may be broken. [1:40:17, 1:40:37]: where the pools may have water in them, those amenities in which they should be up capped but they're not, that could propose a liability for some kids, then we are are getting in the game to make sure that those properties or those facilities, even though they're within HOA, because they present [1:40:37, 1:40:46]: A health and life safety issue that they take the necessary steps to mitigate harm being done to any child or resident. [1:40:46, 1:40:55]: And then of course we are the support staff to the zoning advisory board who hears all of the zoning issues before it comes to Mayor and Council. [1:40:56, 1:41:00]: That is what we do at that level. Now [1:41:01, 1:41:10]: Most of you may have heard about uh the need of Stockbridge to protect its municipal boundaries and what does that entail? [1:41:10, 1:41:30]: That means that we have to make sure that our boundaries are solidified, that they're secure, and that we can protect the Jodico Road project. So what that means is that where we have a whole lot of zigging and out of the city boundaries, up and out into the county, that we need to make sure that we enclose or annex as much [1:41:30, 1:41:36]: much as those properties as possible to make sure that we solidify our boundaries, make it recognizable. [1:41:37, 1:41:45]: Okay, and at the same time protect our investment in the Jodico project. If you look at these, here's a map of what [1:41:45, 1:41:51]: Um the city of Stockbridge looks like we currently have eight thousand seven hundred and thirteen parcels. [1:41:51, 1:41:55]: Over here, um this map [1:41:55, 1:42:15]: is shows you a portion of the City of Stockbridge which the proposed city of Eagles Landing is attempting to take fifty percent of the City of Stockbridge. And so we're fighting hard to make sure that we retain every bit of Stockbridge that we currently own today. And we're going to need your help to make sure that we retain [1:42:15, 1:42:28]: all of Stock Bridge, in addition to retaining all of Stock Bridge to make sure that we solidify our boundaries. So therefore we have been aggressive in terms of developing an annexation strategy as well as [1:42:28, 1:42:35]: making sure that the deannexations of parcels within the city limits of the city of Stockbridge do not occur. [1:42:36, 1:42:37]: In uh [1:42:37, 1:42:47]: The prior uh slide I don't know how you go back on that. Oh there we go. Uh so what have we done? We just how many of you received letters in the mail? Did anybody in here? [1:42:48, 1:42:48]: Okay. [1:42:49, 1:42:51]: Uh we did a mailing [1:42:52, 1:42:52]: Of [1:42:53, 1:42:58]: Three thousand and thirty six letters went out to people that were affected in this red area. [1:42:59, 1:43:07]: All of them received letters next week explaining to them the implications of the annexation by the proposed city of Eagles Landing. [1:43:08, 1:43:28]: Uh we're in the process of scheduling town hall meetings. Mayor and Council has made a request that in addition to these 3,100 individuals receiving information about what is happening in the city of Stockbridge, that we also do a mailing of some type of notice to the remaining residents of the City of Stockbridge to make you fully [1:43:27, 1:43:31]: aware of what is occurring as it relates to [1:43:31, 1:43:46]: any actions pertaining to de annexation of any portion of the city of Stockbridge. We're in the process of scheduling town hall meetings and those meetings, two of those will be at City Hall, the others will be out in the community. So we're try we're gonna try to come to a community near you. [1:43:46, 1:44:06]: Um so that we can give you all of the details in terms of the impact of what deannexation will do to the City of Stockbridge and how that affects your quality of life, our quality of life, how it affects our growth pattern and our vision in terms of who we are and where we intend on going in the future, what are the negative sides of [1:44:06, 1:44:26]: deannexation and why collectively as a community we have to bind together to make sure that we fight this fight to make sure that we keep our city intact as well as solidify our boundaries. We're going to do a mailing of information packages on annexation to nearby properties that are adjacent to the city of Stock [1:44:26, 1:44:46]: Bridge. That's how we solidify our boundaries. We're going to start initially with our commercial businesses because they are 100% easier to do. And we're going to try to do connectivity with as many commercial establishments as possible that are right outside the boundaries of the city of Stockbridge. And we strongly believe that there are going [1:44:46, 1:44:51]: going to want to be a part of the city of Stockbridge which helps us solidify our boundaries. [1:44:52, 1:45:12]: Then we're going to schedule open house. Uh we think it's important that both existing residents and potential new residents come and hear about who we are and our vision for the future and how the elected body intends on improving your quality of life, making Stockbridge a play to live a place to live, work and play. [1:45:12, 1:45:16]: a place of destination. And I think I'm excited about that more so than anything else. [1:45:17, 1:45:18]: Okay, let's see. [1:45:19, 1:45:39]: The next section that section that we're going to talk about is code enforcement, which is probably dear to many of you. Our code enforcement section is similar to police, but they're not police. In the sense that they are the law enforcement behind the enforcement of the coding ordinances for the city of Stockbridge. And so when complaints come in, it is these [1:45:39, 1:45:41]: [6341.6, 6354.0]: do a site visit and make a determination whether or not there have been any violations in reference to the codes that are on the book. So this is what I tell citizens all the time. A lot of times we get calls and people will say [1:45:55, 1:46:09]: I don't like this or this is something wrong and I want my code enforcement officer to come out and I want him to do something about it. And and I would give an example. We got a call because someone saw Binds growing up beside someone's house. [1:46:10, 1:46:10]: Right? [1:46:11, 1:46:14]: Well, some people like vines growing up beside their house. [1:46:14, 1:46:21]: Uh is that a code violation? No, it is not. But this is what I tell citizens. If it is something that you don't like [1:46:21, 1:46:41]: Then it's up to you to bring those items to our attention, and then we will look at seeing whether or not there are things that need to be codified in our ordinance that will not allow those things to continue in the future. But unless there are laws on the books, code enforcement officers cannot issue citations. They can only issue citations. [1:46:41, 1:46:49]: citations on items and violations that are in the codes. Now here's a report of what we've done [1:46:49, 1:46:52]: um for the last couple of months. [1:46:53, 1:46:56]: We've had a total of four hundred and sixty four new cases. [1:46:57, 1:47:03]: A hundred and f four hundred and forty six of those, everybody got a warning. Okay, so [1:47:03, 1:47:07]: You know, we come by, we come by twice, three strikes are out, you get a warning. [1:47:08, 1:47:21]: Um then we had a hundred and forty seven parking violations. Uh and just a note on that there are a number of streets within the side city of Stockbridge that are only twenty feet wide and we actually allowed developments to exist [1:47:22, 1:47:27]: in subdivisions where we should never have allowed twenty foot wide streets. So there's parking issues. [1:47:27, 1:47:29]: And so the city's in the process of [1:47:30, 1:47:50]: modifying the ordinance where we can address the parking concerns for all those subdivisions that are twenty feet wide or less to make sure that as homeowners you have an opportunity to have your in-laws visit for that long weekend before you send them on their way. But at least they won't get ticketed, right? So those are the things that we're working on. The number of [1:47:50, 1:48:04]: Citations, 135. The number of cases that actually went to court was a hundred and ninety five altogether. And right now, by the time we give the next report, we'll be able to tell you the amount of revenues that were generated. [1:48:04, 1:48:07]: off of the citations that went before [1:48:07, 1:48:18]: the the municipal court. What are the top five violations? Prohibited parking on posted streets, which we're attempting to address. Unsightly high grass and weeds. [1:48:19, 1:48:21]: Trash and debris, curb cuts. [1:48:23, 1:48:28]: illegal signs, banners and public right of ways, and illegal dumping. [1:48:28, 1:48:30]: Those are the top five [1:48:30, 1:48:33]: violations that we currently see. [1:48:33, 1:48:35]: within the city of Stockbridge. [1:48:36, 1:48:56]: The next area is business services and administration. If you're going to do a business or operate a business in the city of Stockbridge, then there are certain things that you need to do. You just can't put up a shingle and say, I'm going to operate my business at Stockbridge. You actually do have to have a license. And so the business services division is [1:48:56, 1:49:16]: One of those divisions that deals with your licensing as pertains to what's you want to do in the city of Stockbridge. So if you want to operate a business, you need an occupational tax license, business license. We issue alcohol license, hotel and motel. Uh we're also in the process, one of the things that we're going to start, which is new, is a [1:49:16, 1:49:20]: a business financial review. And you may say why is that important? [1:49:20, 1:49:23]: Well, governments can do a couple of things. We can take your word for it. [1:49:24, 1:49:26]: Oh, we can verify, right? [1:49:26, 1:49:30]: So you can come in and say that you made ten dollars. [1:49:30, 1:49:31]: We can take your word for it. [1:49:32, 1:49:36]: Or we can verify and see that you actually made fifty dollars, which means you probably owe us forty, right? [1:49:37, 1:49:57]: Um so we're going to venture into the area of actually doing audits and review to make sure that all of the revenues that are due to the city that we actually obtain those revenues from those businesses when we need to get them. And so we're looking at doing uh business, financial reviews, and audits. Uh we also issue uh film and event [1:49:57, 1:50:17]: Prevents and of course one of the new things that we're really excited about is that within the city of Stockbridge, our entire corridor is packed with businesses. Some that are uh small businesses, some that are chained, some are corporate owned, but we haven't had the opportunity to really work with those business. [1:50:16, 1:50:36]: businesses in terms of bringing them together to hear their concerns and see what the vision is for our business community. Because the business community for us is our heart. And we want to make sure that we're not always taking but that we are put in a position where we get. And so we're looking forward to working with our business community and hopefully we can [1:50:36, 1:50:56]: collectively between government and the business communities can address our corridors and some of the issues that are along our corridors, as well as make sure that any activities or visions that they have to boost our businesses and make them look better and make them feel at home, that we establish that environment and a [1:50:56, 1:51:13]: collaborative between the business community and the government entity to make sure that not only we retain them, but that we once again became become a place of destination for businesses who want to come and operate in the city of Stockbridge. So we're excited about that. [1:51:14, 1:51:18]: Here's a list of some of our business uh data. [1:51:18, 1:51:32]: for the last couple of months. Uh we had a home base forty seven, commercial seventy-six for a hundred and twenty three total. In terms of businesses closed, we had a hundred and eighty three. [1:51:32, 1:51:40]: But look at this of renewals. We had one thousand six hundred and sixty one businesses [1:51:41, 1:51:44]: within the city of Stockbridge that decided [1:51:44, 1:51:45]: We're not gonna leave. [1:51:46, 1:51:47]: We're gonna stay. [1:51:48, 1:52:08]: And that is just wonderful. And we need to do everything that we can to make sure that we not only retain the sixteen sixty one, but we double that. And so we're looking at efforts to make that happen. The number of delinquent accounts, that's forty seven. What does that mean? That means that those are businesses who just have [1:52:07, 1:52:23]: not renewed. And so we're waiting to see what the court is going to do in terms of them not being in compliance with reobtaining their their business license. The number of alcohol licenses three, the number of hotel motel one, and other permits five. [1:52:24, 1:52:44]: What are the numbers of alcohol licenses within the City of Stockbridge are existing now? Fifty-five. What's the number of hotel, motels? We have five. And what's the number of total event permits that we've done for this year thus far? It's been ten. Now, as we look at the amount of revenues that business licenses have generated for the last couple [1:52:44, 1:52:47]: [6767.8, 6776.2]: And uh in terms of other permits, which are other fees, filming, alcohol and some of the others, is actually five hundred and fifty. [1:52:56, 1:53:02]: Uh in terms of the amount of uh delinquent accounts, we're talking about seven thousand. [1:53:03, 1:53:06]: But as you can see, one of our major revenue sources [1:53:07, 1:53:10]: for the city of Stockbridge, it's really our business community. [1:53:10, 1:53:15]: So therefore we need to make sure that that partnership between us and them is solid. [1:53:16, 1:53:36]: Next is the one that we're excited about is billing and permitting. And hopefully we will have these folks in place no later in September. And we're really excited about uh the revenue stream that we're going to get from this service. Right now we get zero, uh, because Henry County does it all. So if we get fifty cents. [1:53:36, 1:53:56]: That's fifty cents more than we've been getting, right? So we're really excited about that. And as I dis uh talked with you earlier, this group is going to make sure that our buildings are safe and secure and they're going to permit new construction so that we will know what we have coming in as soon as possible. [1:53:56, 1:54:16]: Uh the last area which is new, uh since I've been here, I've been attempting to work with my colleagues in terms of getting a handle on our SPLOSS projects so that we can move them forward as quickly as possible. You heard uh Dacious that came before me talk about the number of public works projects that are in [1:54:16, 1:54:27]: in progress. In addition to those public work projects, there are a lot of other SPAS projects that are on the books. So what we're doing collectively [1:54:27, 1:54:47]: as a team is trying to make sure that we come up with a schedule where we can move these projects forward in a timely manner because we have a new spLOS that's supposed to come out next year and we want to make sure that we can demonstrate to the taxpayers before the next slot goes on the ballot that we've moved the last two SLOS [1:54:48, 1:55:00]: that you approve quickly and you can see these projects on the ground. What you have up there is SPLOS three, which was done in 2007, SPLOS 4, which was done in 2013. [1:55:00, 1:55:11]: And those are the expenditures and those are the balances. So I think Dacious and I and C C and everybody else is real excited that we can get these projects going and we hope [1:55:11, 1:55:17]: that within the next twelve to thirteen months that all of you are going to be very pleased to see what's on the ground. [1:55:18, 1:55:38]: Uh the CIP plan, for many of you may not or may or may not know, that it's important that every municipality has a Calp Improvement Plan. And that's important because it keeps us focused in terms of our short and long range objectives, which means that as I tell them, give me your wishes. [1:55:38, 1:55:38]: Smith? [1:55:39, 1:55:51]: And then we'll put everything on the wish list and then we will prioritize that wish list but at the end of the day we should be able to identify those projects based on a five, a ten, and fifteen ten year time span. [1:55:52, 1:55:53]: Identify the funding for it. [1:55:54, 1:55:57]: Put'em on a schedule and make them happen. [1:55:57, 1:56:00]: Government does not have to move slow. [1:56:00, 1:56:12]: What government has to do is be efficient and effective in how it moves along and to make sure that they spend your tax dollars wisely, but we should be able to do a good job. [1:56:12, 1:56:17]: And I think that's the last slide on my presentation and I am ready for any questions. [1:56:18, 1:56:26]: Ladies and gentlemen in the audience, do uh any of you have any questions that you'd like to ask Ms. Moore, Mr. Wendell Moore. [1:56:32, 1:56:35]: Remember you do need to talk into the microphone. [1:56:36, 1:56:46]: Yes. I I've got a question. You talk about all this uh it's going on and everything like that. What's going on with those buildings we own up there behind Wendy's on Rock Cut Road? [1:56:47, 1:56:52]: You know, it it used to be progressive insurance and that's just a big old vacant building up there. [1:56:53, 1:57:03]: Uh does the city own it or is it just a vacant building? Oh city owns it. Okay what we Let's let our attorney answer that question, Camille, if you don't mind. [1:57:05, 1:57:13]: to the uh one hundred thirty five Park Place building, the city's in the process of selling that and we expect to close on that [1:57:14, 1:57:15]: um in the coming month. [1:57:17, 1:57:20]: Very good. I was just wondering if you've been sitting there a long time. Yes, sir. [1:57:21, 1:57:34]: Yeah, my only response to him, Mayor, was that uh we have other people who've asked us uh what properties does the city own. And what I was gonna share with you is that uh we're in the process of mapping, uh we're trying to make most of our information available to the public. [1:57:35, 1:57:47]: And one of the maps that we're working on, it will actually show all city owned property. So people want to know and go up and see what properties we own, the city owns across the the citywide, they will be able to do that. [1:57:48, 1:57:52]: File, while I got the city attorney there, can I ask you one more question? [1:57:53, 1:57:55]: And they're on Tie Street, there's a [1:57:56, 1:58:04]: Well I call it up here. Let's we're gonna hold the questions. These are Miss Moore's questions, so anything you wanna ask him, we'll do that later, please. [1:58:05, 1:58:08]: Any questions of Miss Moore while she's at the [1:58:10, 1:58:13]: Mm-hmm. [1:58:14, 1:58:15]: Right now [1:58:16, 1:58:18]: Our experience [1:58:19, 1:58:23]: Call code enforcement, as you explained. [1:58:25, 1:58:26]: Hang on happen. [1:58:28, 1:58:32]: I live between two noise nooses that the city created. Mm-hmm. [1:58:32, 1:58:36]: weren't here listening, these people weren't here but they created it. [1:58:37, 1:58:39]: No provisions there. [1:58:40, 1:58:41]: We have an ordinance. [1:58:42, 1:58:43]: Can't enforce it. [1:58:44, 1:58:47]: on over two and a half years through a contract dispute. [1:58:48, 1:58:51]: When do you uh can you get these pick [1:58:52, 1:58:53]: I mean you got a full plate. [1:58:54, 1:59:06]: Well let me just share this'cause you and I had a wonderful conversation. Uh what we're doing, what staff is doing, we're in the process of um looking at what we have posted. We're looking at modifying those should [1:59:06, 1:59:11]: to make sure it makes sense. Uh the city's in the process of doing some negotiations with Henry County. [1:59:12, 1:59:16]: uh in terms of some additional services and then we have gone to expanding [1:59:16, 1:59:18]: our services on the weekend. [1:59:18, 1:59:21]: uh so that someone can come by [1:59:21, 1:59:33]: and actually hear and issue citations. The other the other thing that we're doing is that uh where it talks about uh noise beyond a hundred and twenty five feet, we're actually going to put markers [1:59:34, 1:59:43]: A hundred and twenty five feet, so it's easy to detect for someone to stand there because right now without a marker, you're guessing what's a hundred and twenty five feet, right? [1:59:43, 1:59:47]: Uh but we I think you and I both know does it doesn't take much. [1:59:47, 1:59:49]: for noise to travel because it is noise. [1:59:50, 1:59:52]: And I think as you and I talked about, um [1:59:52, 1:59:56]: We're looking at some form of additional uh noise mediation. [1:59:56, 2:00:01]: Whether in terms of additional tru uh shrub shrubberies or maybe a wall. [2:00:01, 2:00:17]: So those are the things that we are looking to make sure that we can mitigate the impact that your community is currently. In other words, if we had some enforcement [2:00:17, 2:00:17]: Mm. [2:00:18, 2:00:20]: Those out there. [2:00:20, 2:00:23]: And and they don't have the uh [2:00:24, 2:00:26]: Oh my four. [2:00:26, 2:00:26]: Oh. [2:00:27, 2:00:28]: There it is, there. [2:00:28, 2:00:31]: Uh breaking the regulation. [2:00:31, 2:00:35]: They find that they know what they can and can't do. Don't have [2:00:36, 2:00:39]: Uh warnings ain't gonna it ain't gonna get it. So [2:00:40, 2:00:41]: Bad and uh tw [2:00:42, 2:00:43]: Number fifteen, we had [2:00:43, 2:00:57]: uh uh uh or uh uh amendment to the noise nuisance and we had it enforced one time over sixty five calls from december fifteenth to the to right now. Right now it don't do you no good call. [2:00:57, 2:01:11]: Well, as as I share with you and I I mean, but I'm see, I I'm I'm been living there since uh uh uh ninety nine and it's been an ongoing thing for seven years in the last two and a half years. [2:01:11, 2:01:19]: City don't even have i can't even enforce their own daggum ordinances. Well what I as I share with you in our meeting [2:01:19, 2:01:26]: Okay. See I I'm the one that has to suffer along with people that live in a residential area. [2:01:26, 2:01:31]: Most people in this city don't have this problem. I know. And we're going I give you my word. [2:01:32, 2:01:52]: And I'm gonna give you an update. Okay. I'm I'm I'm gonna call you personally and give you an update on how we're proceeding in terms of mitigating the noise for your community because I know it's a real concern. See we see you guys spend money on uh everything else and can seem to have everything in place. We dealt with Harris for time he was [2:01:52, 2:01:52]: Here we go. [2:01:53, 2:02:00]: And you put up a sign, but ain't nobody gonna w fool with a sign. You got to enforce you that. Yes, sir. [2:02:01, 2:02:03]: Mm-hmm. [2:02:03, 2:02:08]: You're welcome. [2:02:10, 2:02:11]: All right, we have one in the back. [2:02:15, 2:02:18]: I wanted to ask about the parking. Um [2:02:19, 2:02:23]: issuing citations. You are actually issuing citations for [2:02:24, 2:02:29]: uh parking, say like on the street in subdivisions or something. And I understood what you said about the twenty feet. [2:02:30, 2:02:50]: Well i i it it actually depends. What we're doing right now, we're not doing any citations until we can figure out what we need to do. And right now we're preparing a recommendation to go before Mayor and Council to address uh subdivisions with parkings with streets that are less than twenty feet wide. For those streets that are thirty to thirty feet. [2:02:50, 2:02:52]: You normally don't have [2:02:52, 2:03:12]: problems because you can park on both sides and a fire truck can get up the middle. And so the reason why we have to address it because fire and emergency vehicles have to be able to get in when those calls come. But we're very sensitive to the fact that as a home buyer and a taxpayer you have property rights and you should have the ability [2:03:12, 2:03:32]: to be able to park and particularly in light of the fact that there's been a history in Stockbridge where developers actually build houses with only one car garage, right? So they kind of put our citizens at a disadvantage. So we have to have a meeting in the middle of the road where we can ensure that any rescue vehicles [2:03:32, 2:03:46]: vehicles can get through our streets, but at the same time making accommodations for those streets that are twenty feet wide or less, that parking can be accommodated on either one side of the street so that emergency vehicles can get through. [2:03:46, 2:03:51]: Okay, well that's been the issue that I've been trying to address in our subdivision. [2:03:51, 2:04:00]: And and it's been going on for about uh more than three years now and I've been trying to communicate with uh the the city here at meetings [2:04:01, 2:04:06]: And we've gotten our subdivision pretty much under great control, but we have [2:04:07, 2:04:13]: you know, about five or six that just will not comply even though it's a two car garage and a four car driveway. [2:04:14, 2:04:20]: And like you said, uh we've communicated that the emergency vehicles must be able to get through. [2:04:20, 2:04:26]: So that's what I was trying to find out is do you have anything in place where there are certain times? [2:04:27, 2:04:29]: where citations can be issued because [2:04:29, 2:04:33]: We can call code enforcement every day or every week for the same people. [2:04:34, 2:04:39]: And it becomes a joke to the people, um, when you call'em and they just continue to violate. [2:04:40, 2:05:00]: And um their property rights, right? There are public streets, right? Public streets, and then homeowners have property rights. You know, some of the things that we talked about in those subdivisions that have uh garages, two colour garages that actually situate four cars, that if they're convinced, everybody knows that you have birthday. [2:04:59, 2:05:19]: Parties, you have all types of parties, you have events, so needless to say, they're going to come, right? About a process whereby you know that you're going to have an event for a day so that all your neighbors could come. You actually come by and purchase a yard sign that goes in your yard to say, Having a party today, right? The issue becomes where [2:05:19, 2:05:39]: you have family that comes in and they stay uh overnight and you want to accommodate those. But for people who just have too many cars and they don't, you know, I mean they just have too many cars, then that becomes how do you look at uh instituting a measure that protects the integrity of your [2:05:39, 2:05:59]: Subdivision because the people who bought all the extra parts has made that decision and all street parts is not their driver. And so again, these are things that we are looking at, we're taking under consideration. And before the city makes any changes to these ordinances, we will have public hearing. [2:05:59, 2:06:06]: Because we want to make sure that we get input from all of the citizens as it relates to parking because in other sense that we have to be showing. [2:06:06, 2:06:15]: You have any idea how much longer that's gonna take? Uh actually that's one of the things that the Commission is going to be talking about Thursday night. [2:06:20, 2:06:22]: Are there any other questions of Ms. Moore? [2:06:23, 2:06:26]: How about questions from the dais? Yes. [2:06:27, 2:06:28]: Mr Alexander. [2:06:28, 2:06:33]: I'm gonna simply say to the audience member, I feel your pain. [2:06:33, 2:06:38]: I'm tired of this and my vote is to have zero tolerance. [2:06:38, 2:06:45]: I'm sorry. You move into a subdivision, you got ten cars, you moved into a subdivision. [2:06:45, 2:06:48]: You gotta fix the problem. I'm sorry. [2:06:48, 2:07:00]: the far emergency vehicles have to come through. So, you know, I'm willing to, you know, try to work with it a little bit, but I've seen you come in here numerous times and I agree with you [2:07:01, 2:07:01]: The [2:07:02, 2:07:22]: It is what it is. And most of these subdivisions, there may be a one-off situation where we have one car garages, but most of them have two car garages. People are abusing the policy. And it is what it is. Now I want to commend Miss Moore by saying last year when we looked at the citation budget, citation represents [2:07:22, 2:07:26]: revenue for the city. It had a zero next to it. I was outraged. [2:07:27, 2:07:42]: and we have a hundred we have one hundred and forty five cases pending, that means that we're actually enforcing now. In the past we haven't done that. And again that's why I hope you elected us is that we want to see code enforcement not be a joke. [2:07:42, 2:08:01]: We want somebody out there writing citations. We have ventured toward going to the weekend because we want it we know that these businesses with the illegal signs, they show up on Friday afternoon and they stage the signs out there because they know anybody wasn't working. But we want people working and we've done that. [2:08:01, 2:08:17]: I commend Miss Moore, like I said again, because last year, you know, we're not looking at this as a revenue generator, but these people need to m understand that we're not playing. We're prosecuting them. We expect them to follow the rules. If you park in the street [2:08:18, 2:08:23]: And it's my opinion only, I wanna give'em a ticket now. I don't wanna wait. [2:08:23, 2:08:43]: You ha you understand that when you moved into a subdivision with a small uh a lot or you know, the situation where it may be. But um in terms of code enforcement, I just want to speak to that and say I think Miss Moore and I want you to go over a bit if you could about the coming updates in terms of [2:08:43, 2:08:54]: uh outside displays, enforcing what's on the books. One of the things that we've dealt with is that we have things on the books that are ambiguous that we aren't enforcing. [2:08:55, 2:09:08]: I'm I'm all for zero tolerance and moving us where we are actually enforcing what's on the books. You cannot put things up uh that are inappropriate in the city'cause so Miss Moore, can you speak to that please? [2:09:08, 2:09:16]: That's correct. One of the issues that uh courts have is that when we take uh violators to court, there's a gray area. [2:09:16, 2:09:21]: And because they're grey areas, w we're not able to get the recourse that we're looking for. [2:09:22, 2:09:25]: Um so one of the things that we do understand is that [2:09:25, 2:09:27]: Well, you start hitting people in the pocket. [2:09:28, 2:09:34]: you're not gonna see them as much. And um my review of our fee structure kinda shows that [2:09:34, 2:09:39]: Sometimes it's better to keep going and get cited because all you gotta do is pay twenty five or fifty dollars. [2:09:40, 2:09:41]: And you [2:09:41, 2:09:42]: Come back. [2:09:42, 2:10:02]: And so what we're looking at uh in reference to what the councilman is talking about is that we need to clean up the gray, and that's what we're doing, and also put in a fee structure that deals with repetitive offenders, which means that the first time you go before the judge, okay, grace and mercy, you get the minimal fee. But by the time you get to the third offense, you're not going [2:10:02, 2:10:03]: I don't want to see the judge anymore. [2:10:03, 2:10:12]: because now we're talking about hitting your pocket. Uh and we clearly understand that violators don't like no violators. No one likes paying money. [2:10:12, 2:10:32]: Um that they don't have to pay. So we clearly understand that a restriction of our fee structure and cleaning up the gray areas is going to one uh limit or reduce the number of violations, and two, if we do have the violations, the cost in the revenue stream is going to account for the staffing and the man hours. [2:10:33, 2:10:35]: that's out there to issue the citations. [2:10:36, 2:10:37]: Mayor Neil. [2:10:38, 2:10:40]: Yes, ma'am. We have another question. [2:10:40, 2:10:41]: Um [2:10:42, 2:10:47]: Miss Moore, I just wanted to again thank you. Uh you're you're fairly new here as well. [2:10:48, 2:11:03]: and jump right on board and have done an a phenomenal job. Um and uh I think that citizens would be proud of the things that the staff and and council are are doing and agreeing on doing here and and and mayor and council [2:11:04, 2:11:04]: Um [2:11:05, 2:11:12]: in regards to some of the other community development projects and annexations [2:11:12, 2:11:32]: um and different things that w we're discussing. Can you uh tell us a little bit more about your plans with going around to the community and discussing annex the annexation issues what things that we will be doing to help annex in some of those communities that want to be in stock breach? Um we're in the process right now [2:11:32, 2:11:35]: scheduling uh town hall meetings [2:11:35, 2:11:38]: For all the citizens of Stockbridge to hear [2:11:39, 2:11:42]: what's happening with the proposed city of Eagles Landing. [2:11:42, 2:11:54]: and how their proposal impacts us. So we're going to be posting those locations and times and we're encouraging you and all of your neighbors to come out so that you can hear the facts. [2:11:54, 2:11:59]: Why is that impossible? What's that old saying? He who grinds a squeaky wheel [2:11:59, 2:12:03]: Gets heard, how does that go? Right? We c we'll get oiled. [2:12:03, 2:12:06]: Okay, well all I'm saying is that [2:12:06, 2:12:08]: A community as a whole. [2:12:08, 2:12:12]: We need our voices to be heard and understood under the gold home. [2:12:12, 2:12:21]: And I think that it becomes impressive when those decision makers under Goldome have to make a decision on legislation that could impact our community. [2:12:21, 2:12:41]: that they hear from you as citizens. So what we're trying to do at the town hall meetings is to equip you, the everyday citizens, with information so that when you need to make a call on behalf of your city, you can do that and you have all of the facts and all of the information that allows you to intelligently call and [2:12:41, 2:13:00]: elect official and have a conversation with them why anything that's proposed that hurts the city of Stockbridge, why it's a bad idea and why you need their support to not allow that to happen. So we can only do that by telling you the facts and giving you the information so that you can share. [2:13:00, 2:13:06]: uh as it relates to annexation. We believe that the City of Stockbridge is the place where you need to be. [2:13:06, 2:13:12]: And you know, it's kinda like if you don't tell your own story, who's gonna tell it? [2:13:12, 2:13:21]: And you know, when I got here I really said that Stockbridge was like a diamond in the Raw, right? You know, you you know there's a diamond there someplace. [2:13:21, 2:13:26]: But until you get off all the smudge, you really see that you have a real gym. [2:13:27, 2:13:38]: And that's what the city of Stockbridge is. When I tell people that you don't have a property tax and that you have a vision to grow this community, that you're a community that's diverse. [2:13:38, 2:13:50]: But who tells our story? We don't, right? And so if we're going to make annexation work for us, then we have to tell our story. You know, less than seven years ago. [2:13:50, 2:13:53]: The city of Stockbridge was the fastest [2:13:53, 2:13:54]: Growing [2:13:54, 2:13:57]: city in the country. [2:13:58, 2:14:01]: Not just in Georgia, in the country. [2:14:01, 2:14:03]: And something happened. [2:14:03, 2:14:12]: We need to regain that momentum. And the way that we do it, we're gonna have to tell our story, we're gonna have to go to every business. [2:14:12, 2:14:18]: that's adjacent to our boundaries and we're gonna have to convince them why it's in their best interests [2:14:19, 2:14:39]: to be officially a part of our community. And so that's what we're going to do. We're in the process of developing a strategy, open houses, doing some marketing materials, you know, meeting with them and letting them know what it is we have to offer to them and letting them understand that not taking the opportunity to [2:14:39, 2:14:50]: to become a part of our community puts them at risk of being someplace else where they might just have to pay property taxes. So you know where they say a a bird in the hand? [2:14:51, 2:14:53]: It's better than one in the bus? [2:14:53, 2:14:55]: We know we don't have property taxes now. [2:14:56, 2:14:58]: What a new city may or may not have [2:14:59, 2:14:59]: You're guessing. [2:15:00, 2:15:01]: So we just have to tell our story. [2:15:04, 2:15:04]: Gracias. [2:15:05, 2:15:07]: Any other questions from the dais? [2:15:08, 2:15:10]: And we have a question from Mr. Blount. [2:15:10, 2:15:30]: All those uh areas that we're gonna be targeting for time is of essence for city stock here when we look at when it's gonna send the structure. So those areas that we're gonna identify for having on uh I guess community town all meetings, subtown all means here, I guess. [2:15:30, 2:15:50]: There are two gonna be here at City Hall for the convenience of people that want to come. [2:15:49, 2:15:59]: come here. There will be one um over in the Eagles Landing area at Cannon Cleveland funeral home, their big, beautiful community room. [2:15:59, 2:16:01]: And the uh [2:16:01, 2:16:03]: Is Did Julya? No. [2:16:04, 2:16:13]: No, it's the community room. They give it to uh everybody uses it for big charities. It seats well over two hundred people. It's meant for the community. [2:16:14, 2:16:22]: Um that is one location and then we're having one on the west side at Monarch Village in their community room. Those are the first four. [2:16:25, 2:16:27]: Let me turn my mic back on. I'm sorry. [2:16:28, 2:16:29]: Um [2:16:30, 2:16:33]: Um s forgive me, Mayor uh uh uh uh but I didn't [2:16:34, 2:16:37]: I personally don't want to see us having a community meeting in a funeral home. [2:16:38, 2:16:55]: Um that's why we have four, the ones that don't want to go there. The people that are used to going to uh the events at Cannon Cleveland in the community room, it's a huge population of the people that live in Eagles Landing. They go there for performances and other things. [2:16:56, 2:16:57]: Um as [2:16:58, 2:17:04]: Uh we I would like for council to agree on those meetings since we're [2:17:04, 2:17:05]: Um [2:17:05, 2:17:07]: Talking about where we want to go. [2:17:08, 2:17:13]: as far as those meetings. I I'm I'm not for I wanna be at everyone I can be at. [2:17:13, 2:17:24]: I'm the s we have churches that are much larger than that. I think what what this whole annexation encompasses is something that we should find the largest venues that we can find in there are many churches. [2:17:25, 2:17:33]: uh there are many uh uh outlets we can use for instead of using a funeral home to have uh um [2:17:34, 2:17:37]: Business for uh [2:17:40, 2:17:52]: if if any of you have places that you want to recommend, just give me that list and then I will disperse that list and then whatever y'all decide on, just let me go. [2:17:52, 2:18:12]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Um I just want to add we've already you've already had um discussions at Eagles Landing, um First Bat the First Back Church of Eagles Landing, correct? The big s facility, um, when Councilman Alexander brought in his community meeting. So we've had [2:18:12, 2:18:22]: had several meetings at different locations. Um I don't want to keep being in those same areas. So if this community center [2:18:22, 2:18:42]: is one that's gonna impact a certain area, then we can find another area. I've never been over there, but if that's an area that the mayor's familiar with, there may be an area that each one of us is familiar with. Um at the main thing we need to understand is you've already presented, you did the big PowerPoint at Eagles Landing Church. [2:18:42, 2:18:58]: Um we had Full House there with Councilman Alexander. So the word is going forth. This is not the beginning. I mean we've already s we've started this already. We was at um whatever the other church we were there, you presented with um [2:18:59, 2:19:19]: Senator Jones, Mount Olive. So we've done that. I mean we're this this is just an addition that we're continuing to have the fight. So um I just appreciate everything that you're doing. Um so whatever each council is doing, take one from each one and let's be there. [2:19:19, 2:19:30]: to go anywhere, anytime, any place. We just want to make sure that it's convenient for all of your residents. Uh Scott Greens is a large master. Talk in the mic. Talk in the mic. [2:19:30, 2:19:31]: Um [2:19:32, 2:19:52]: You know, for us, anywhere, any place, any time, we'll go, we'll be there. Uh we know that this is a serious fight, so we really need all hands on deck, uh, as many as possible and and however we can spread the word. So, you know, what I would suggest is that each of you, you know, give me some ideas and I will get that list back to you. [2:19:52, 2:20:06]: And then whatever you narrow it down to, then we will go with it. But I you know, w we're ready to go and we're ready to spread the message because we know this is gonna be a fight to the end and whatever we need to do to do it, you know, we're willing to do it. [2:20:08, 2:20:23]: Yes. Thank you, I appreciate it. And thank you for your briefing. That's very informative. Got a couple of things. One I want to tag on to this annexation these annexation of these town halls. Yes, absolutely. Monarch Village is available uh to host a town hall, without a doubt. [2:20:23, 2:20:29]: I've um served on the board and the president of the board have been for several years and the board members have tenderly agreed to that. [2:20:29, 2:20:30]: So we just need a date. [2:20:31, 2:20:39]: Now granted since it's an HOA and it's the largest single single HOA in the city of Stockbridge, just under nine hundred homes [2:20:39, 2:20:48]: Uh what I want to tell you is that the clubhouse can can maybe get the max out about eighty people only. So typically when we have something like this [2:20:48, 2:21:08]: at Monarch Village we we we narrow it down strictly to the residents of that community. That's what we typically do and that aspect to give access to that community. If we're looking at a town hall that will will cover everybody from say the spear, black hall, down vault stevens all the way to Flippin' Road, then we we we won't be able to handle everybody. [2:21:08, 2:21:16]: in our clubhouse. Parking lot's pretty large, but the clubhouse we won't. So if you're gonna do that, because you got Brentwood, Carris Lake, and Wingate all down in that area. [2:21:17, 2:21:22]: And none of us of course are in none of those communities are in the proposed Eagles Landing area at all, period. [2:21:23, 2:21:43]: Uh so I would recommend if if if this if it's for specifically for Monart Village when we come to Mom Fellows, fantastic. If we're trying to open up to all those communities, we're not big enough for that. Okay? So now we recommend Red Oak United Methodist Church, which is right next to Monart Village, or even go further down on the other side of Flick into Global, where [2:21:42, 2:22:02]: Which maybe have more space. Those are the n those are the biggest churches in that immediate area to cover those folks. Just a suggestion. But I'm more than welcome and we're more than welcome, the board is more than welcome to have the city come and talk to folks in Monard Village. And actually, besides that, you got Miss Diane Miller that's right around the corner from me in Monard Village. She'll be there. You know. [2:22:02, 2:22:22]: Key should be there. I mean hey w so have at it, but but I'd like to offer that as a suggestion and a recommendation how to handle this, okay? Okay, and the other thing I want to ask you is that maybe I should know this, uh, but you mentioned about your building permitting and about additional staff. Maybe I went over [2:22:22, 2:22:42]: How many additional staff are you talking about? Oh no, I didn't hopefully none. Um what we did we put out an RFP and uh we're looking at the new models. We don't know whether or not uh any of our bid proposals will have that, but as I shared with you before you allowed me to put this out today that there are a number of companies out there that get a prescription. [2:22:42, 2:23:02]: percentage of whatever you bring in. So therefore they are responsible for the staffing and the overhead. Right. And then there's a percentage of what goes to the city and what percentage goes to them because that's how they get paid. And there are a number of firms that does that. And the reason why I reper um talking about that model before [2:23:02, 2:23:22]: four we put it out is because right now we get zero from Henry County. And so uh any percentage that we get hopefully from whoever is selected, that's a new revenue stream for us. And so for that division, uh we're expecting whoever we choose to be totally responsible for the staffing themselves. [2:23:22, 2:23:42]: Thank you. Appreciate it. And I may I did want to I believe you said in a previous um meeting that this was revenue neutral. So that that was important for the council to understand that. [2:23:42, 2:23:43]: Um [2:23:43, 2:23:50]: Signage for cities and turn your mon monument signs can be placed on private property. Does it have to be on city property? No, it does not. [2:23:50, 2:23:55]: Um in the city of Riverdale, right before you came into the city of Riverdale at the city limits. [2:23:56, 2:23:57]: There was a hotel there. [2:23:57, 2:24:00]: And they allowed uh the city of Riverdale. [2:24:01, 2:24:04]: to put a stationary permanent monument [2:24:05, 2:24:16]: with all of the city advert advertisements on that monument. So it doesn't necessarily have to be on city property. We just have to find out once we identify those locations [2:24:16, 2:24:20]: or whether or not the property owners of that property would be willing to allow us. [2:24:20, 2:24:22]: to put those structures there. [2:24:24, 2:24:44]: I just have one one additional question if I could please. Okay, Mr. Alexander. Now we had spoken I had spoken to Mr. Williams about this and I bet we got two volunteers on the front row that if we looked into having citizen volunteers uh in a group that were trained by the city that could help us go out and get some of these [2:24:44, 2:25:04]: illegal signs that are on the roadside and what have you. Uh what are your thoughts on that? You know I know we have a sweep in the city but maybe some of these citizens who are who who who who want to help us might be able to help out with uh it's something as uh as the uh illegal signs. Well I think any volunteers that [2:25:03, 2:25:23]: that will be willing to do that is great. The only thing that I would suggest is that we have a conversation with legal because there's some legal obligations because what I may consider your right-of-way, you may consider your property. Um and so we don't want to get, you know, as a city official, we have some leeway because we're depotized to do that. [2:25:23, 2:25:43]: But when you put a private citizen in that position and you come up on Popeye's property and there's a sign there that Popeye's is giving someone to put there and they don't think it's in the right of way, right? And then we have a volunteer go up and pull it up, then there's just lit litigation. But I'm comfortable if whatever legal [2:25:44, 2:25:44]: Buys [2:25:45, 2:26:05]: with and if legal can deal with um any liability issues as it relates to you know and then if a person goes up and pull up a sign and some dog bites them. I I you know I just always get concerned about private citizens. Now if they would indemnify themselves and say that I'm gonna do this as a volunteer [2:26:05, 2:26:14]: No matter what happens, you know, I won't sue the city. I'm comfortable. But it it's just one of those things you have to be careful with, but whatever legal says it's permissible. [2:26:15, 2:26:16]: We're we're open to it. [2:26:16, 2:26:21]: You said a word that caught my attention. You said we're deputized [2:26:21, 2:26:38]: So we can move these signs at this point or how does that work? I mean but you're officially a uh l you are officially a legal representative for the city of Stockbridge. So you're in in essence you're not really a private citizen. Uh you are city government. [2:26:38, 2:26:42]: But you know, for you know, one of these gentlemen for us to say [2:26:42, 2:26:49]: You know, go pick up signs. I do think we risk some type of liability in case something goes wrong. Thank you. But now I tell you what does work. [2:26:50, 2:26:56]: uh if we can agree with uh either Henry County or the state of Georgia [2:26:56, 2:27:16]: That deals with uh minimal criminal offenses because they are law enforcement. Uh in some jurisdictions, they have what they call the work crews for community service and all of those that are able to help with those type of issues. But again, because they are serving out a penalty and they are under the jurisdiction. [2:27:16, 2:27:23]: jurisdiction of a legal law enforcement entity that may work. And some jurisdictions use what they call community service workers to help. [2:27:24, 2:27:24]: Thank you. [2:27:26, 2:27:28]: Any other questions from the Dais? [2:27:29, 2:27:30]: If not, Miss Moore, we [2:27:31, 2:27:32]: Commend you for a guard report. [2:27:33, 2:27:53]: Uh I want to remind you, ladies and gentlemen, it's eight twenty. We have a lot of business ahead of us this evening, so let's move forward. Mayor Mill. I was given a correction to the item for the fence replacement for Gardener Park. Okay. The amount is eighteen thousand seven hundred. [2:27:53, 2:28:06]: hundred and forty eight dollars and the fence company is C and C fence company was awarded that for those listening in the audience that was a correction on the name of the fence company C and C [2:28:06, 2:28:09]: And the amount was also corrected. [2:28:09, 2:28:27]: Okay, and give me that amount again. Eighteen thousand seven hundred forty eight dollars. Okay. Got both of those. Thank you so much. All right. At this time we're going to call our finance director, Linda Neighbors, our treasurer up and get a financial update, followed by questions and answers of Ms. Neighbors. [2:28:31, 2:28:33]: [8916.5, 8936.5]: Man Neal. I I'm sorry, before we have Ms. Neighbors present real quick, just for clarifications, I I would hope that we just let the code enforcement still handle the signs within the community of pulling'em up but that council not necessarily. Yes, we the last word was that [2:28:56, 2:29:00]: Uh nothing would change unless legal suggested it. [2:29:02, 2:29:03]: Ms Neibers. [2:29:10, 2:29:13]: Turn the mic around, please. [2:29:14, 2:29:17]: It is the vendor is Lynn David. [2:29:18, 2:29:19]: that we spelled out. [2:29:19, 2:29:22]: Doing business as CNC. [2:29:23, 2:29:25]: [8997.8, 8999.3]: I get it full screen. [2:30:00, 2:30:01]: You know how to do that? [2:30:02, 2:30:09]: You can do it right of that over here. [2:30:16, 2:30:19]: [9040.0, 9043.5]: Oh. [2:30:53, 2:30:55]: Oh I can't. [2:30:57, 2:31:06]: Give it. Okay. Well it's almost but yes. I could say I got my bar up there. [2:31:10, 2:31:10]: Yeah. [2:31:11, 2:31:13]: [9073.8, 9075.5]: You know how to make a full screen? [2:31:22, 2:31:23]: That's the whole thing. [2:31:25, 2:31:29]: Is it PowerPoint? No, it's just uh PDF. [2:31:34, 2:31:35]: Mm-hmm. [2:31:36, 2:31:38]: [9100.9, 9111.6]: Okay, good evening everyone. I am Linda Neighbors, the treasurer of the city of Stockbridge, and I um am happy that all of y'all are here still. [2:31:52, 2:31:53]: Um [2:31:54, 2:31:58]: So while the financial results for the second quarter are [2:31:58, 2:32:05]: not very favorable if you look at the bottom line. There are items that are uh come in at different times of the year. [2:32:05, 2:32:07]: Those are noted down at the bottom. [2:32:08, 2:32:09]: Up the screen. [2:32:10, 2:32:11]: Um [2:32:12, 2:32:15]: So I'm gonna hit the highlights of this, but [2:32:15, 2:32:16]: Oh. [2:32:16, 2:32:18]: Right now we are unfavorable [2:32:19, 2:32:24]: One million two hundred and eight thousand eight hundred and thirty one and this is for the general fund. [2:32:24, 2:32:28]: for the first two quarters of twenty seventeen. [2:32:29, 2:32:29]: Um [2:32:30, 2:32:33]: And while that looks a little scary, we have two [2:32:33, 2:32:40]: big revenue streams that come in later in the year. The insurance tax premium comes in in October. [2:32:40, 2:32:43]: which is over a million dollars and the [2:32:43, 2:32:45]: a franchise fee from [2:32:45, 2:32:51]: Uh Georgia Power comes in in February and is accrued back into s twenty seventeen. So [2:32:52, 2:32:52]: Um [2:32:53, 2:32:56]: We always keep that in mind when we're looking at these financials the [2:32:57, 2:32:59]: The operations are all um [2:33:00, 2:33:01]: You know [2:33:01, 2:33:06]: running according to uh budget that where we would be so far. [2:33:06, 2:33:07]: Uh like I said, we are [2:33:08, 2:33:14]: unfavorable, but I don't expect us to look like that at the end of the year once the revenues start coming in. [2:33:14, 2:33:17]: So that is a recap on the general fund. [2:33:18, 2:33:20]: We have uh revenues recorded. [2:33:21, 2:33:22]: Um [2:33:22, 2:33:25]: Three million five hundred and thirty seven thousand. [2:33:26, 2:33:28]: Nine hundred and forty six. [2:33:31, 2:33:32]: And you'll see the detail. [2:33:33, 2:33:36]: uh below on the revenue streams that make that up. [2:33:37, 2:33:40]: The biggest one, of course, is our local oxygen sales tax. [2:33:41, 2:33:43]: Um and that's the penny that uh [2:33:44, 2:33:48]: That as well as the sploss that everybody has been talking about. So [2:33:49, 2:33:50]: Um that really [2:33:50, 2:33:52]: sustains our operations. [2:33:52, 2:33:54]: The expenses so far are [2:33:55, 2:33:58]: uh four milyen twenty three thousand four hundred and two [2:33:58, 2:34:05]: And like I said, it's uh everybody is running basically in line with what our budget is for the year. [2:34:06, 2:34:10]: Um I'm real pleased with the hotel motel. [2:34:11, 2:34:19]: The um Fairfield Inn that came in out um near the interstate that has really boosted our revenues. [2:34:19, 2:34:21]: And um [2:34:21, 2:34:25]: I really expect us to come in strong by the end of the year and that will help cover [2:34:26, 2:34:29]: Um the branding initiative that we're doing. [2:34:29, 2:34:37]: as well as the R S V P that has to do with the Main Street program. So I'm uh excited about that coming in like that. [2:34:38, 2:34:39]: The um [2:34:39, 2:34:42]: Urban redevelopment fund, that is [2:34:43, 2:34:47]: Um just where we pay for the debt service on this building. [2:34:47, 2:34:52]: And it just is we transfer in what the debt service is. So far we've paid [2:34:52, 2:35:02]: uh nine hundred and twenty five thousand one hundred and twenty six dollars. The next is the capital project fund um which would include the transportation enhancement [2:35:03, 2:35:05]: and the livable community. [2:35:05, 2:35:07]: And right now so far this year we have [2:35:08, 2:35:08]: Spent. [2:35:09, 2:35:13]: Twenty three hundred and ten dollars on uh Davis Road. [2:35:14, 2:35:19]: Those are the sidewalks everybody's talking about that we're trying to do those projects. [2:35:20, 2:35:21]: Uh the next [2:35:21, 2:35:23]: Yeah, sorry about that. [2:35:24, 2:35:25]: Um water and sewer. [2:35:26, 2:35:33]: And uh they're coming in good as well. What we had to do over the last few years with them is [2:35:34, 2:35:38]: Uh in essence the general fund was bearing all the costs. [2:35:38, 2:35:57]: of uh the water and sewer fund and they should have been getting a allocation of the insurance and different um things that happened in the general fund and so we finally got it where we're almost I'm hoping in the next couple of years we're gonna be able to pay for our depreciation which will help us [2:35:57, 2:36:02]: Um with our asset replacement schedule which is very important to [2:36:02, 2:36:04]: putting back into [2:36:04, 2:36:07]: the operation, it works as an enterprise fund. [2:36:07, 2:36:09]: Back into the operation. [2:36:09, 2:36:11]: So we can uh upgrade our [2:36:12, 2:36:17]: uh assets and infrastructure. So that's really important that we're able to maintain that. So [2:36:17, 2:36:24]: So far this year we've collected two million six hundred and sixteen thousand and that's the water sewer fund. [2:36:24, 2:36:25]: And expensive. [2:36:26, 2:36:29]: One million five hundred and sixty four thousand nine hundred and seventy three. [2:36:31, 2:36:32]: The stormwater fund. [2:36:32, 2:36:36]: These uh is only it uh this fund [2:36:36, 2:36:41]: All the revenues are collected at the end of the year'cause they are put on the property taxes. [2:36:41, 2:36:48]: So these revenues have not come in yet for twenty seventeen. They'll be collected anywhere like between August and December. [2:36:48, 2:36:53]: So right now we only have revenues of fourteen thousand six hundred and fifty nine dollars. [2:36:54, 2:36:58]: That actually is just residual from prior years that we're collecting now. [2:36:59, 2:37:02]: And the expenses, of course, you have to run the operation at full [2:37:03, 2:37:06]: Speed is two hundred and seventy nine thousand one hundred and seventeen. [2:37:07, 2:37:14]: Uh the next is the sanitation fund, which is the operation that we um have waste industries [2:37:14, 2:37:17]: Um picking up the c the collection of the [2:37:17, 2:37:19]: garbage and the recycling. [2:37:20, 2:37:20]: And [2:37:21, 2:37:21]: Um [2:37:22, 2:37:25]: That is collected the year before, so [2:37:26, 2:37:36]: Uh sanitation so far this year six hundred and sixty three thousand eight hundred and forty five in revenues and expenses are six hundred and nineteen thousand one hundred and thirty five. [2:37:36, 2:37:40]: In all of these enterprise funds, similar to what I was explaining in the water sewer, [2:37:41, 2:37:45]: Um the general fund was covering all the expenses and we need [2:37:45, 2:37:51]: the user fees to cover the expenses of the operation. So it basically is trying to [2:37:51, 2:37:54]: uh cover any depreciation. [2:37:54, 2:37:58]: of the assets and um that type of thing. [2:38:02, 2:38:05]: The next we have is um [2:38:05, 2:38:06]: The Merlmanders [2:38:07, 2:38:09]: Uh so far we have collected [2:38:09, 2:38:10]: Um [2:38:10, 2:38:12]: Two hundred and thirty six thousand. [2:38:13, 2:38:15]: And sixty dollars of that [2:38:15, 2:38:21]: Hundred and fifteen thousand eight hundred and ninety two is transfers in from the general fund. [2:38:22, 2:38:26]: So we have uh expenses of two hundred and four thousand seven hundred and ninety eight. [2:38:27, 2:38:38]: And that's the Merrill Manders. They also bear the cost of any staffing that goes along with Ted Strickland, which is the next category down, Ted Strickland Community Center. [2:38:38, 2:38:42]: And they've collected twenty seven thousand two hundred and thirty eight dollars. [2:38:42, 2:38:46]: And their expenses are twenty six thousand nine hundred and fifty four. [2:38:46, 2:38:56]: And I you know, it may get to the point where I will allocate some of their salaries over there, but you can see we're barely breaking even over there either. [2:39:02, 2:39:08]: The last we have is um the laws three and four and this is current year. [2:39:08, 2:39:13]: for twenty seventeen. Um of course this is a project based so you don't actually adopt [2:39:14, 2:39:21]: an annual budget that goes along with these because it's already established on the referendum that the voters voted on uh when it was passed. [2:39:22, 2:39:31]: So this year um all we're collecting in splash three of course is interest revenue on the money that's sitting there that we're waiting on projects and uh spending out but [2:39:32, 2:39:35]: We have spent two hundred and fifty three thousand seven hundred and twenty two [2:39:36, 2:39:38]: on uh the the expenses [2:39:38, 2:39:39]: Against law three. [2:39:40, 2:39:43]: We had the land acquisition of fifty thousand. [2:39:43, 2:39:48]: City Hall court drainage, there's some of what we spent this year. [2:39:48, 2:39:51]: Uh is forty four thousand three hundred and forty eight. [2:39:51, 2:39:53]: Merle Manders parking lot lighting. [2:39:54, 2:40:03]: Um I think that everybody'd be really pleased with the lighting that's around here as well as at the parks, that that has just made a tremendous amount [2:40:03, 2:40:07]: of difference and to me it's the security issue so I really like the lights. [2:40:08, 2:40:14]: And we also supplemented roads and sidewalks a hundred and thirty nine thousand eight hundred and twenty eight. [2:40:14, 2:40:17]: Splosp four, the revenues had cut have um [2:40:17, 2:40:23]: been coming in and there again we have to pay the debt service out of th those revenues. [2:40:23, 2:40:26]: before Henry County actually transfers those monies to us. [2:40:27, 2:40:34]: So what we've collected so far this year is nine hundred and one thousand four hundred and fifty two dollars, but we have spent [2:40:34, 2:40:38]: One million eight hundred and seventy seven thousand five hundred and eighteen. [2:40:39, 2:40:42]: Um we're working on the facilities maintenance building. [2:40:42, 2:40:52]: the water metering replacement that Deshus was talking about, road resurfacing. Um, you know, we went down East Atlanta and a couple of other projects. [2:40:52, 2:40:53]: Um [2:40:53, 2:40:54]: This year. [2:40:54, 2:41:03]: The sewer line replacement, which is the pup stations at Willow Springs and South Winds, that was two hundred and forty four thousand nine hundred and seventy six. [2:41:04, 2:41:08]: And park improvements thirty six thousand seven hundred and eighty six. [2:41:08, 2:41:17]: And as soon as the food trucks over we'll uh put in the ADA equipment that um will be at Clark Park. [2:41:27, 2:41:29]: That's all I have right now. [2:41:31, 2:41:40]: Mm. Okay, ladies and gentlemen out in the audience, if anyone has any questions of Ms. Neighbours, please feel free to ask them now. [2:41:43, 2:41:44]: Okay, Mr Wendell. [2:41:46, 2:41:50]: Yes, ma'am. What kind of income does that transfer station generate? [2:41:51, 2:41:52]: Do you have that in your report? [2:41:53, 2:41:54]: In your report. [2:41:55, 2:41:57]: Um no, because that [2:41:58, 2:42:02]: Transfer station is actually leased from Lamar County. [2:42:02, 2:42:03]: Um [2:42:04, 2:42:05]: Solid waste. [2:42:06, 2:42:10]: So as far as what they would generate, I wouldn't have access to those numbers. [2:42:13, 2:42:19]: Because I think that they run through more than just our garbage over there. So that I do not know. [2:42:20, 2:42:26]: Well Lomar County owns the transfer station. Well they don't own it, they are leasing it. It's a long term lease. [2:42:27, 2:42:33]: They lease in it from us. Yes. So what do they pay us for a lease? They pay us um [2:42:36, 2:42:43]: It is like on and I didn't come prepared to answer that, but w it's a a cost per tonnage. [2:42:43, 2:42:46]: that we take over there, that they in turn [2:42:46, 2:42:48]: uh give back to us. [2:42:48, 2:42:49]: I would say [2:42:50, 2:42:57]: Basically what they give us in a year is gonna be about a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. [2:42:58, 2:42:59]: I'm just [2:42:59, 2:43:01]: Trying to remember off the top of my head, but [2:43:02, 2:43:03]: That's basically what [2:43:03, 2:43:07]: they in turn give to us between the lease and the um [2:43:09, 2:43:14]: what waste management also is involved in it over there as opposed to waste industries. [2:43:16, 2:43:20]: I was just wondering since we don't own the garbage service no more. [2:43:20, 2:43:26]: Do we get credit for what waste the industry takes in from the city of Shawbridge? Well [2:43:27, 2:43:35]: not for what waste industries, only if it's our garbage. So with supposed they were s in the contract it read that [2:43:35, 2:43:39]: uh whatever level that we were taking of our own garbage over there. [2:43:40, 2:43:45]: that we could continue to take that and there's a threshold where we have to pay the difference. [2:43:46, 2:43:49]: And that's in the agreement with Lamar County. [2:43:52, 2:43:53]: Okay, thank you. [2:43:54, 2:43:59]: Are there any other questions from the audience? [2:44:01, 2:44:12]: The revenue we've lost between the police reference in the police contract over two and a half years of traffic tickets going down MacDonald? Yes. How much do you think we lost in two and a half years? [2:44:14, 2:44:16]: Um it's going to be [2:44:18, 2:44:23]: It's a rough guesstimate, but so far I would say we've lost about [2:44:26, 2:44:28]: I mean well over a million dollars. [2:44:29, 2:44:30]: Thank you. [2:44:35, 2:44:37]: Are there any other questions from the audience? [2:44:38, 2:44:44]: If not, we'll move to the dais. Anyone up here have a question? Yes, Maniel. Uh Ms. Gantt. [2:44:45, 2:44:52]: Um, Miss Neighbors, on the um second quarter of unaudited with hotel motel funds. [2:44:53, 2:45:08]: The chamber received as an expense sixty eight thousand one hundred and seventy seven dollars and tourism received twelve thousand one forty four. That's a little bit of fifty-two percent of our hotel motel taxes. [2:45:09, 2:45:17]: Well and actually um so the expenses are what we have spent so far on tourism, what what you're looking at there? [2:45:17, 2:45:24]: and um by the law until we change the distribution by law [2:45:25, 2:45:37]: we have to submit to a uh chamber of commerce or tourism that that's what uh you know how we work with the convention business bureau vi convention visitors bureau [2:45:37, 2:45:42]: So we have to give them I think it's forty three point seven five percent [2:45:42, 2:45:43]: of the revenues. [2:45:43, 2:45:44]: Until [2:45:44, 2:45:47]: Uh which time, you know, either [2:45:48, 2:45:58]: you continue to give them that or you establish your own but you have to make sure you do it in accordance to the Department of Community Affairs. They have strict guidelines on [2:45:59, 2:46:03]: how you can divert that or what else you can do with that. So um [2:46:06, 2:46:18]: That that is by law and then, you know, you have different options that the attorney um can probably talk better to you about it, but the DCA is actually the the guideline of it. [2:46:18, 2:46:19]: Thank you. [2:46:19, 2:46:20]: Yeah. [2:46:20, 2:46:30]: Any other questions, Mr. Alexander? Yeah, in reference to what you just said, now we uh we would have to have a direct marketing organization. [2:46:30, 2:46:33]: In order to turn these spawns over to [2:46:33, 2:46:53]: Uh correct. Now maybe the attorney can speak to that. But we'd have to have a direct marketing organization for from what I understand and going to class is very important that actually our Main Street could actually serve in that capacity if we um decided to do so and divvy up some of those funds. [2:46:53, 2:47:05]: I'm not exactly sure but when we actually visited the D T the D C A and the Main Street group did go with me, we we could not do it as it exists today. We have to spin off and do it [2:47:05, 2:47:08]: a different mechanism, there's a different way to do it, but [2:47:09, 2:47:10]: We can't just [2:47:10, 2:47:15]: give it to Main Street like that. You have to do it according to what their established guidelines are. [2:47:18, 2:47:28]: That's basically correct. Th the law requires that a percentage of the tax that's generated be expended through a destination marketing organization [2:47:28, 2:47:35]: We've been using the chamber as that organization. Um it has to be independent from the city. Um [2:47:35, 2:47:46]: we can create our own but it has to be under certain conditions that assures its independence from the city. But they we would still have to send that money to that organization [2:47:47, 2:47:53]: and they would expend it for marketing materials, uh, ad campaigns, things of that sort. [2:47:54, 2:47:55]: Um [2:47:55, 2:47:57]: And you would only do that if you were [2:47:57, 2:48:01]: dissatisfied with what your current arrangement is. [2:48:01, 2:48:11]: Uh next, uh uh I noticed tonight we're we haven't gotten to this yet, but we're looking at uh the budgetary items and I'm looking at um [2:48:11, 2:48:14]: Where um the conference center is right now. [2:48:15, 2:48:28]: And we have a budget amendment coming up from the conference center uh tonight for additional uh twenty thousand dollars, I believe it is. So make so we all understand, I understand, is that pretty much [2:48:29, 2:48:33]: We have taken in about what a hundred and twenty thousand dollars. [2:48:34, 2:48:35]: Omar Omanders. [2:48:36, 2:48:36]: Yes. [2:48:37, 2:48:49]: And the city has subsidized that to the tune of a hundred and fifteen thousand eight hundred and ninety two dollars. And at this point we're putting in another um [2:48:50, 2:49:10]: twenty thousand dollars is that's coming up. That is the request. Is it appropriate at this time to get a explanation? I mean I know Miss um Miss uh McGee is here at this current time and you know you wouldn't do it now. I I would go into it at the budget amendment because this is kind of like the financial [2:49:09, 2:49:13]: financial update and then I would say your questions are appropriate at [2:49:13, 2:49:17]: what when we start to talk about the lines on the budget amendment. [2:49:18, 2:49:31]: But I mean that's totally could you tell me right now but but uh do you have a twenty sixteen number where you could say, Okay, w are we trending better, are we trending worse? I did not bring twenty sixteen with me. [2:49:31, 2:49:43]: Okay. Well would you be able to get that for us? To see where we are compared to uh where we were previous years. [2:49:44, 2:49:44]: Um [2:49:45, 2:49:49]: higher in twenty seventeen than it was in twenty sixteen. I do know that, but [2:49:49, 2:49:50]: To give you specific [2:49:50, 2:49:51]: I'll have to [2:49:52, 2:49:57]: Yeah, I was like, In th in essence that number is growing, how much money we're putting in Merrill Mandis. [2:49:58, 2:50:04]: That number is higher than it was last year, but for me to say what the number is I don't have it with me. [2:50:04, 2:50:05]: Okay. Thank you. [2:50:06, 2:50:15]: Are there other questions? Yeah, Mayor. All right. Mr. Forward. Yeah, Pair, uh point of information. We're gonna talk about the second quarter budget amendment, but I realize we amended agenda [2:50:16, 2:50:33]: for items two and three on that to talk about the third concert in September and also expanding uh the Octoberfest, Hispanic Fest to add some funds to that. And that's actually scheduled to come after the budget amendment. Just want to make note of that. I don't know how it's gonna affect us as we go down and talk about that that there. So [2:50:34, 2:50:37]: Just wanted to mention it. We would put it in at the budget amendment, right? [2:50:42, 2:50:45]: Is that what you would recommend? [2:50:50, 2:50:56]: Ask if you were able to make all those changes today and [2:50:59, 2:51:06]: Okay, that's fine with me. I just want to make note of that because we're scheduled to talk about it after as we go through this process. I just want to make note of that. [2:51:06, 2:51:07]: Excuse me? [2:51:07, 2:51:09]: That's a good question. [2:51:10, 2:51:11]: Yeah. [2:51:13, 2:51:15]: Pani Przewodnicząca. [2:51:15, 2:51:16]: Cool. [2:51:18, 2:51:22]: All right. All right. Well I'd like to make a motion that [2:51:22, 2:51:24]: I'd like to make a motion this time. [2:51:24, 2:51:27]: to reverse the uh the uh to talk about the [2:51:28, 2:51:31]: um additional third concert in September and [2:51:32, 2:51:35]: Also to talk about the the additional funding for [2:51:36, 2:51:39]: October fest slash Hispanic Fest prior to [2:51:40, 2:51:43]: get it into the second quarter budget amendment. [2:51:45, 2:51:51]: All right. Um I hear the motion to discuss items two and three ahead of item number one. [2:51:52, 2:51:54]: Do I hear a second? A second. [2:51:54, 2:51:57]: I hear a motion and second. Is there discussion? [2:51:59, 2:52:01]: No discussion. All in favor? [2:52:02, 2:52:03]: Okay, thank you. [2:52:11, 2:52:15]: I don't have any more to add for this section unless somebody has any more questions. [2:52:17, 2:52:19]: More questions of the council. [2:52:21, 2:52:23]: Okay, Ms Neighbors, thank you. [2:52:23, 2:52:24]: Mayor Neal. [2:52:24, 2:52:27]: May I request a five minute recess? [2:52:28, 2:52:30]: Okay. We're gonna um [2:52:30, 2:52:39]: Accept that request for a five minute recess and that means that we're gonna start back in five minutes. So don't take ten, just five. [2:52:50, 2:52:51]: [10375.3, 10379.3]: Then let me give you that j well I get but thank you. [2:53:04, 2:53:10]: [10390.3, 10391.4]: [2:53:14, 2:53:21]: [10403.8, 10423.8]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's uh [2:53:43, 2:54:03]: [10443.7, 10449.6]: [2:54:10, 2:54:18]: [10460.0, 10464.2]: Must be sure. [2:54:24, 2:54:44]: Well I'm very small. [2:54:44, 2:55:04]: [10504.6, 10524.6]: Yeah. And uh [2:55:24, 2:55:35]: [10535.4, 10536.8]: [2:55:38, 2:55:58]: [10558.5, 10575.0]: [2:56:26, 2:56:46]: [10606.2, 10626.2]: [2:57:06, 2:57:09]: [10629.3, 10631.6]: Oh, I don't think that's a good thing. [2:57:28, 2:57:45]: I think I'll have [2:57:45, 2:57:45]: Right. [2:57:46, 2:57:50]: I believe our five minutes are up. We could all return to the dais. [2:58:03, 2:58:23]: At this time we're gonna uh ask our clerk if she would, if we have anyone in the audience that uh wanted to come up and ask anything from or make a statement if you haven't gotten answers to what you were interested in from our staff people tonight, we'd invite you to come up and remind you you have three minutes to speak. [2:58:24, 2:58:25]: Mr Windowmore? [2:58:48, 2:59:00]: Uh well it was good night, Mayor and City Council and everything. Uh I've been listening to three hours of discussion and everything like that. A lot of things I've got an answer to, some things I don't have an answer to. [2:59:01, 2:59:05]: Uh the lady over there, Miss Moore. My name's Moore too. Thank you. [2:59:06, 2:59:08]: Uh sign dating. [2:59:08, 2:59:17]: Uh anyway. Uh the squeaky wheel of don't get greased around here'cause we've been squeaking about our problem for seven years. [2:59:17, 2:59:20]: So, you know, that squeak the wheel thing don't work. [2:59:21, 2:59:31]: But I'm not here to complain about you know my complaints and you know my concerns. And I haven't heard from anybody up there, you know, that emailed me and told me what they've done and so forth like that. [2:59:32, 2:59:34]: But I do have a question. [2:59:34, 2:59:39]: Somebody asked me the other day, where is downtown Stockbridge? How did I get to it? [2:59:40, 2:59:45]: You know, you tell'em cross the bridge and hang on immediate right and you'll be there. [2:59:46, 2:59:51]: And we need something that says downtown Stockbridge, beside the billiards sign. [2:59:51, 2:59:55]: You know, that's the standard answer. Look for the billiards time. [2:59:56, 2:59:59]: And stop reaching these people to define more than that. [2:59:59, 3:00:06]: I wish he would do a car count on Berry Street uh uh well they've changed the name of it. But you know where I'm talking about. Do a car count. [3:00:07, 3:00:10]: I bet you don't have seventy five cars a day goes up and down that street. [3:00:11, 3:00:18]: And Phil you got a downtown area of twenty five thousand people, you should have more traffic than that in downtown Stockbridge. [3:00:19, 3:00:31]: And you know, I just don't understand the rebranding and everything. If you go and rebrand it, put it up on Highway one hundred thirty eight there or North Henry Boulevard, whatever you call that, and let's have a city up there. [3:00:31, 3:00:35]: When you come down one thirty eight now, it looks like Riverdale Road. [3:00:36, 3:00:39]: And believe me, I lived in Riverville one time when it was really nice. [3:00:40, 3:00:44]: But I was over there the other day and I locked all the doors on my car and rolled'em up the windows. [3:00:45, 3:00:49]: And got through there as fast as I can. And that's not the image we want. [3:00:50, 3:00:52]: We want a city that we can be proud of. [3:00:53, 3:00:55]: And and that things can happen, you know. [3:00:56, 3:00:59]: And going through a neighborhood and the streets caving in. [3:00:59, 3:01:12]: You know, the curb's all bent up like this right here, and we say, Well, let's wait and see what happens. Well when a car falls in it or a kid gets caught in that hole right there, yeah, I'm afraid you're gonna see what happens. [3:01:13, 3:01:15]: Because that is a liability issue. [3:01:15, 3:01:20]: You know, bring back our orange cones. That's what was out there for three and a half years. Bring'em back. [3:01:21, 3:01:26]: At least put some kind of warning around that. Not let's wait and see what's gonna happen. [3:01:27, 3:01:35]: 'Cause I can tell you what's gonna happen. Somebody's gonna get hurt, and somebody's gonna sue the city, and here we go again, you know. We don't need that. [3:01:36, 3:01:38]: We're out of the soup business, I hope. [3:01:39, 3:01:41]: Or at least I hope we get out of it soon. [3:01:41, 3:01:42]: And you know [3:01:43, 3:01:45]: I want somewhere I can be proud of. [3:01:46, 3:01:55]: And it's getting to the point where, you know, I need to put a for sale sign up and go back to Pie County down there. At least, you know, people listen to you down there and when you had a complaint [3:01:55, 3:01:59]: They would I know she rung the bell. [3:02:01, 3:02:02]: Uh [3:02:02, 3:02:07]: You're a good complainer, you know. Mr. Leonard Dancy, do you have any further comments? [3:02:16, 3:02:22]: Mr. Hansy. [3:02:23, 3:02:24]: City ordinances. [3:02:26, 3:02:32]: been going on for more than two and a half years, but the t question I got is why has the [3:02:32, 3:02:35]: uh contract. [3:02:36, 3:02:37]: For the county. [3:02:37, 3:02:40]: Why does that go on for two and a half years? [3:02:41, 3:02:42]: Anybody got any answers? [3:02:45, 3:02:46]: police in the city. [3:02:48, 3:02:49]: Two and a half years. [3:02:50, 3:02:51]: People ask me say [3:02:53, 3:02:54]: What do you do, Leonard? [3:02:55, 3:02:56]: I say, don't call the police'cause I [3:02:57, 3:02:58]: They ain't gonna do nothing about it. [3:03:01, 3:03:05]: How you like living in the city? Can't enforce their own ordinances. [3:03:05, 3:03:07]: Can't even get a contract. [3:03:08, 3:03:12]: With the sick heck she just told us we lost a million dollars. [3:03:13, 3:03:14]: I won't take it. [3:03:15, 3:03:16]: What's the problem? [3:03:18, 3:03:20]: Why can't you all beat it down? [3:03:21, 3:03:23]: It's re it reflects on the scene. [3:03:25, 3:03:38]: If you got a issue. If you're living in a nice quiet home, you can sit and home eat cheeseburgers and w m w twiddle your thumbs, but I'm in the middle of this mess along with these other people. You received a petition [3:03:39, 3:03:43]: Was it two years ago, three years ago on on the transfer station? [3:03:44, 3:03:46]: Ain't heard a word out of that. [3:03:47, 3:03:52]: Two and a half years. Now Miss Moore, she gon she's gonna get it all right. [3:03:53, 3:03:55]: We and y'all gonna get it all right too, aren't you? [3:03:56, 3:03:57]: Or are you? [3:03:59, 3:04:00]: But see [3:04:00, 3:04:01]: My mental [3:04:03, 3:04:05]: One of these days somebody's gonna snap. [3:04:06, 3:04:16]: I bought bowls headphones, three hundred dollar headphones just thinking well I'll just put them on the heck with that damn parkour. You can't get away from that damn gum. [3:04:17, 3:04:20]: bump and amplify the equipment. [3:04:21, 3:04:26]: The ordinances that y'all passed, I remember you said how we gonna enforce it. [3:04:26, 3:04:29]: That was in December fifteenth. [3:04:31, 3:04:34]: On and on and on and on. [3:04:36, 3:04:38]: Y'all take a o. [3:04:39, 3:04:41]: Sworn out to the Charter. [3:04:42, 3:04:44]: What does it say in that charter? [3:04:45, 3:04:55]: to provide a healthy environment for us to live in. Now I know y'all it wasn't on y'all's watch, but that transfer these homes this is built in a residential area. [3:04:56, 3:05:00]: That transport th hey less than fifty yards, that's a fifth football field. [3:05:02, 3:05:03]: On top of it stinking. [3:05:06, 3:05:12]: But y'all ain't y'all ain't gotta live over there in it. It don't matter. How am I gonna hold you accountable? How do I hold you accountable? [3:05:13, 3:05:15]: Can't hold you accountable. [3:05:15, 3:05:17]: Ethics is a joke. [3:05:18, 3:05:19]: Yeah, I'll pick them people. [3:05:20, 3:05:24]: I done been over and talked to him. Mr Yan see Utamsa, thank you. [3:05:25, 3:05:27]: Ms. Mildred Reed. [3:05:42, 3:05:45]: Good evening. Milted we five thirty. [3:05:45, 3:05:47]: Quick view overlook stockbridge. [3:05:48, 3:05:54]: Uh first of all I want to say uh we'll pass a compliment on to the staff. [3:05:54, 3:05:55]: Oh. [3:05:55, 3:05:56]: The city. [3:05:57, 3:06:08]: B s uh the personnel that I have met and that I've talked to personally that I speak to, I may not have any business interaction with them, but they have come across all have come across very professional. [3:06:09, 3:06:27]: The ones that I have worked with and I'm not gonna call anybody's name at the one person's name at the moment, but they know what they're doing. So I want the council to really look at your staff and appreciate the service that they're that they are doing on behalf of the city. [3:06:28, 3:06:32]: Uh the I'm standing up here because on J Tuesday, July the eighteenth [3:06:32, 3:06:35]: And I want to share this publicly. [3:06:35, 3:06:41]: that I wrote a letter, well I say I on behalf of the down uh downtown development authority. [3:06:41, 3:06:44]: It went to the mayor and city council. [3:06:45, 3:06:50]: a letter of appreciation to Camellia Moore and I know you all recognise it but [3:06:50, 3:06:53]: Um the public really didn't know what was going on. [3:06:55, 3:07:11]: The oh on that Monday night we had a meeting with Camellia Mo Camellia Moore and she was so awesome in her leadership and very simple, simplistic. But she explained uh Lakeisha, would she have been there? [3:07:11, 3:07:13]: She explained. [3:07:13, 3:07:24]: and went to details with some strong leadership and direction to us. And I'm verbally saying that, but I really ought to go ahead and just read the letter and continue on. [3:07:25, 3:07:42]: Um we appreciate her leadership and direction she gave to us as we are in the process of working our mission and vision for the city. Ms. Moore's knowledge and expertise was well noted by all and she's an inspiration for the board. [3:07:43, 3:07:51]: We look forward to working with Ms. Moore in the mi in the future to ensure Stockbridge becomes a viable place to live, work and play. [3:07:51, 3:07:53]: And this was signed by [3:07:53, 3:07:55]: Every member Wancy Not saying [3:07:56, 3:07:58]: Every member has been acknowledged [3:07:58, 3:08:04]: Uh not a c council person, but we did acknowledge Raul Carlos and the rest of us that are on the council. [3:08:05, 3:08:13]: And you all saw the letter. I wanted the public to be aware of what was going on and and she proved herself worthy tonight. So, you know, thank you. [3:08:14, 3:08:14]: Panie Przewodniczący. [3:08:23, 3:08:24]: There are no further comments. [3:08:24, 3:08:31]: All right, we have finished our public comment period and we're moving on to new business and we're going to go first to [3:08:32, 3:08:33]: Uh that's um [3:08:34, 3:08:36]: The third concert. [3:08:36, 3:08:40]: Uh for the month of August and that would be presented by [3:08:42, 3:09:01]: I'll pres I'll present that. I'll start it off anyway. Um ladies and gentlemen, uh the last concert I attend was so awesome and a lot of a lot of people just came on out for that. And originally when we started our budget talks for twenty seventeen, I originally thought we were gonna have three concerts and uh to be uh May, excuse me, June, July and August. [3:09:01, 3:09:21]: for whatever reason we we did not. But regardless of that, uh what I want to do if Ms. C C if you can come up please. Uh what I what I'd like to do is just have a discussion with the with the the council uh with our events coordinator uh our professional here, professional staff member, right, to be part of this conversation. And my last time I had a conversation [3:09:21, 3:09:33]: session with her was last week about this is that if we wanted to do this, uh then she would have to know right away and I'm pretty sure that there is funding in the budget for this on if if we are able to come to agreement on that. [3:09:33, 3:09:37]: And I'm thinking normally the concert is less than ten thousand dollars, is that right? [3:09:39, 3:09:41]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. [3:09:41, 3:09:45]: It's approximately fifteen thousand per concert. Okay. [3:09:46, 3:09:58]: All right. Well anyway, so I just want to start a d discussion and dialogue whether or not we're willing to do that and then and then uh identify a funding source and and get her going on that if we if we accept the fact that we should do that. Okay? [3:09:59, 3:10:04]: I'd like to open the floor if we could. May I'm sorry, Mayor, go ahead. We have a uh do we have a motion to that effect? [3:10:06, 3:10:21]: Uh the motion would read that you would like to add a third concert and that would cost the city uh fifteen thousand dollars and we would have to identify money that is not in the budget. Is that correct, Mr. Ford? Yes, I would think it it that is correct, yes. [3:10:21, 3:10:23]: All right. Um the [3:10:23, 3:10:28]: Okay, well let's go ahead and um get a second to that, if there's a second. [3:10:29, 3:10:39]: Mayor Neal, real quick, I I just want to ask Ms. Neighbors, do we have money that we can pull from general funds to cover We're we're gonna get to that in discussion. [3:10:40, 3:10:40]: Okay. [3:10:41, 3:10:42]: All right, a second. [3:10:42, 3:10:44]: All right. We have a motion, a second. [3:10:45, 3:10:46]: And then we'll have a discussion. [3:10:47, 3:10:51]: At which time we can figure out where the money would come from. Mayor. [3:10:52, 3:10:58]: I guess the only question and I you wasn't here but I asked with Mayor Pro Tem because I've had discussion with you [3:10:58, 3:11:18]: previously in reference to the additional concert, um, stating for time wise getting in the acts, you know, bringing them in that you would need at least thirty days um to do that, you need time. So are you trying to do this what month, I guess? So you can have that [3:11:18, 3:11:22]: allotted time to get your performers [3:11:24, 3:11:31]: Well, I'm here to serve. Um I answer to Mayor and Council um for your directives. [3:11:31, 3:11:37]: It normally takes me a couple of months to pull it together, actually start working on the concert season. [3:11:38, 3:11:40]: at the beginning of the year in January. [3:11:41, 3:11:42]: If I [3:11:42, 3:11:46]: were to put on a concert, I would have to know immediately [3:11:47, 3:11:48]: Meaning [3:11:48, 3:11:51]: really tonight if that if we're going forward [3:11:52, 3:11:58]: If we're doing a concert next month which is in August, um that's the available date. [3:11:59, 3:11:59]: There. [3:11:59, 3:12:01]: Or we will bump up against [3:12:01, 3:12:06]: Bridge Fest which we're in the planning sessions planning season right now for Bli Bridge Fest. [3:12:07, 3:12:09]: Which is gonna take place September thirtieth. [3:12:09, 3:12:15]: So we could not have a concert and bridge fest in the same month. [3:12:15, 3:12:20]: And if you go into October then the weather is kinda if any really [3:12:20, 3:12:23]: loser summer concert series so [3:12:23, 3:12:25]: It would have to be a suggestion. [3:12:26, 3:12:29]: From the council if you would like to move forward. [3:12:30, 3:12:31]: in August. [3:12:32, 3:12:52]: Okay, so my additional question is in in saying that that to what I'm getting you're just saying you had the liberty of counsel, okay? Um you would in the original planning would take you s couple of months um s you know to get it to make it as it was last time, a perfect event. Um do you have the [3:12:51, 3:12:55]: staff um uh you know to [3:12:56, 3:13:16]: you know, pull this off in a short amount of time because, you know, I don't want to just be rushing and then we're just throwing away taxpayers' money when we haven't actually s you know, sat down and planned. Um because the other event you planned and I'm just going off, I know like you say, you serve at the you know [3:13:16, 3:13:27]: know of the council but I would rather for you to um give the exacts of what is you know, not just saying, Okay, we're your boss [3:13:27, 3:13:47]: I mean just reality of saying like you said it took time from January to get where we were for the last event. Um and I just know how the acts part comes in when you're having to get the talent and the people here. So I mean I I i if if I may say d we just want you to be honest. [3:13:47, 3:13:49]: I would anyway. [3:13:50, 3:13:51]: Mayor, if I may. [3:13:52, 3:13:57]: Um before you um speak, C C this is one of the one of the reasons I think that we probably [3:13:57, 3:14:17]: made a motion prematurely we should hear from C C on what it takes to get this done. So we recall to ask on a motion prior to getting the information on what it would take. Um last year we had three concerts and we were actually planning on having three concerts this year and then our budget was [3:14:17, 3:14:37]: was cut. We didn't know what income was gonna come in, whether we were gonna sell one thirty five in a park place. There were a lot of questions and a lot of issues that um began at the beginning of the year. So now that she's stating this, um and if it if if it would take is usually a prep time of two or three months [3:14:37, 3:14:39]: To get a concert [3:14:39, 3:14:41]: you know, and not just throw something together. [3:14:42, 3:14:45]: then we probably wouldn't have made the motion in the first place. [3:14:48, 3:14:49]: Mr Alexander. [3:14:50, 3:15:00]: I think that we have an events coordinator. We have a sufficient uh level of management in Merrill Manders Conference Center in the city. [3:15:00, 3:15:20]: And we have a budget amendment on here. We're trying to drive people to our downtown area. This is another opportunity to drive people to our downtown area uh into the budget and to actually expose our downtown area to somebody else. I don't know [3:15:20, 3:15:23]: What you all saw, but I saw fifteen hundred people out there. [3:15:24, 3:15:25]: It was very impressive. [3:15:26, 3:15:33]: Our citizens have gen they've supported these concerts uh at uh at such a great level. [3:15:33, 3:15:53]: Uh I was actually speaking to the food uh truck vendor and uh what he took because during Trail Alive he had the uh Italian ice truck come to Trail Alive. He spoke to me and he said the vendors would love to have an event, Memorial Day weeking, I mean Labor Day. [3:15:53, 3:16:13]: weekend. Contrary to what this council has said and uh you know and talks about holidays, the vendors, especially the food truck operators, prefer to work on holidays because they are big event days and they fill the calendar. Councilman Robinson said, Well, is thirty days enough? And I [3:16:13, 3:16:33]: look like for you to c clarify or quantify what is there a rule that you can't have two concerts in one month? I mean that we had it one Labor Day weekend and then we had one the following weekend, but I'm for having another concert because I didn't think that we should have took the third concert away from the citizens. This is [3:16:33, 3:16:36]: something that they enjoy. So could you speak to the [3:16:37, 3:16:41]: Well can I make my comments and say well mate, what for his wants to speak? [3:16:42, 3:16:43]: Of course. Mr. Blount. [3:16:44, 3:16:45]: I uh [3:16:46, 3:16:47]: One of the things I did hear from you [3:16:48, 3:17:01]: is is is uh uh takes a good two months to get a good concert. Get get the entertainment of people together. And one of the things we do have over mur over over uh in your department, advanced apartments [3:17:02, 3:17:03]: is getting people [3:17:04, 3:17:06]: We would have to budget people to come help. [3:17:07, 3:17:27]: That's I I know that's a been there because you called me at at the eleventh hour saying, Hey, you know anybody can come do this and do that and I've done the best I could in that area. When w when those when that concert was taken off the the the uh schedule for for this year to come now then you haven't planned [3:17:27, 3:17:32]: for it yet. And then we have Bridge Press that we're coming to expand. [3:17:32, 3:17:38]: then that's even more pressure on an events department that needs help. [3:17:39, 3:17:46]: And so this is why when we talk about the downtown area, this is for me and this is in respect to all my colleagues. [3:17:46, 3:18:06]: I would like to see us go ahead and start moving with something else in the downtown area and that's that big land over there we had a building toying down with, get something moving on that if we want to facilitate the the citizens to start bridging the taxpayers' money because when I if you poll everybody at the concert, it attracts people from everywhere. [3:18:06, 3:18:14]: Yeah, but is i the percentage of people at that concert doesn't live in Stockbridge from what I've talked to. [3:18:14, 3:18:21]: people that I've talked to, I don't know about other council members. So I wouldn't want to tax you all with such a burden [3:18:21, 3:18:23]: Just to make something happen. [3:18:23, 3:18:29]: If we're gonna do something we want quality done with it and then to to plan that to have it so close to bridge past. [3:18:30, 3:18:38]: I think that's a lot on would be a lot on you all, but you're gonna it's it's on you all to speak to what you know, what you're gonna need to make that happen. [3:18:40, 3:18:44]: And but if I can just add one more thing. [3:18:45, 3:18:52]: To clarify, with Bridgefest th there is entertainment, correct? Correct. Okay. [3:18:55, 3:18:55]: Okay. [3:18:55, 3:19:10]: Uh, I wanna ask a question. I think I know the answer to it, but I could be wrong. I know you're up against a timeline on this issue and I understand you have some vacation planned toward the end of the month, so you're not gonna be here on that weekend. [3:19:10, 3:19:12]: One of the weekends, is that correct? [3:19:13, 3:19:17]: I won't be here August the twelfth. That's a Saturday, second Saturday in August. [3:19:17, 3:19:18]: Okay. [3:19:18, 3:19:20]: I just wanted to make sure that [3:19:20, 3:19:21]: We're right. [3:19:21, 3:19:25]: They it wasn't gonna run a vacation if this motion were to pass. [3:19:25, 3:19:25]: Okay. [3:19:27, 3:19:29]: Okay, I heard did I sleep now? [3:19:29, 3:19:36]: Okay, I heard several different things from the diet, so I will do the best of my ability to [3:19:36, 3:19:37]: address. [3:19:38, 3:19:40]: All of the questions and concerns [3:19:41, 3:19:42]: Um [3:19:42, 3:19:44]: I am an event professional. [3:19:45, 3:19:47]: And if [3:19:48, 3:19:50]: We had to put on a concert. [3:19:50, 3:19:52]: We can make the concert work. [3:19:52, 3:20:11]: as well as Bridgefest. But to speaking to you, Councilman Alexander, it is no rule that you can't have two concerts in the same month, but you're targeting various people, so you have to have different advertising and marketing dollars to get the messaging across. [3:20:12, 3:20:20]: because you're reaching a multitude of people. So you have to get that message that you have a concert one week [3:20:20, 3:20:26]: and then two weeks later something else.'Cause when people listen or drive by and see the [3:20:26, 3:20:29]: the signage or get the flyers or whatever. [3:20:29, 3:20:38]: um way that they get that information, it has to be a clear, concise message so that people won't get the two dates confused in the same month. [3:20:38, 3:20:42]: 'Cause as you know, there are a lot of events that go on in the city. [3:20:42, 3:20:43]: On the same day. [3:20:44, 3:20:52]: And we're charged to make sure that people know that it is a stock bridge event and not a different city event. So that would be the first challenge if you have [3:20:53, 3:20:55]: the same thing in the same month. [3:20:56, 3:21:15]: The second item that we would be up against, I'm already tasked with staff, because I run a department basically off of temporary help and that is one of the reasons that we have asked for the budget amendment because I do not have enough money in my budget right now to cover temps [3:21:15, 3:21:25]: through the end of the year, not only do we put on events but we have to run a conference center as well so we're taking customers on both [3:21:25, 3:21:27]: ends of the stick. [3:21:27, 3:21:35]: So if we had staffing in place, then we could pull it off, but then we also need to look at if we are [3:21:36, 3:21:43]: Planning a successful bridge fest, I need the people and the money to get the messaging across. [3:21:45, 3:21:45]: Mayor. [3:21:47, 3:21:48]: Uh yes, Mr Alexander. [3:21:49, 3:22:00]: I would simply say this. The city of Stockbridge we don't have we don't have a property tax. And the one reason we don't have a property tax is because we collect sales tax. [3:22:00, 3:22:11]: Having fifteen hundred people in downtown generates that sales tax. It brings that revenue into the city that fuels us. [3:22:12, 3:22:19]: I I won't wanna put you on the spot. How many weekends have you worked, or Miss O'Brien or a Kanyewell? [3:22:19, 3:22:24]: Well, to speak to your question, Councilman Alexander [3:22:25, 3:22:45]: We work seven days a week whether we're on property or not. There are some times that I have to come to handle a conference center issue at midnight or eleven PM. Sometimes we have an event during the day and everyone else is gone home but we still have other things that we have to do, turn the room [3:22:45, 3:22:47]: [12168.9, 12182.2]: We attend pretty much everything that we can. We're always on the phone. We're always emailing. So just because our faces are not visible does not mean that we don't work. I work seven days a week. [3:23:02, 3:23:11]: How many weekends have you, Brian, and Ekonwell been on schedule on the property on the weekend? [3:23:13, 3:23:28]: I'm not quite sure I understand the exact question. Are you asking for any particular event or how often do we come to the building? Or is there a one or two or three or four? Yeah, you and the staff, management staff at Merrill Manders [3:23:28, 3:23:30]: Including yourself. [3:23:30, 3:23:39]: How many times have you been scheduled to work the weekend at Merle Manders Conference Center where most of the revenue is generated? [3:23:41, 3:24:01]: We're we don't have a particular schedule. We have events that's every weekend. There are some weekends that I personally cover. There are some weekends all three of us personally cover. There are some weekends that Ekonwa may cover, but we are here every month, so it's not a month. [3:24:01, 3:24:04]: month that goes by that we're not there. [3:24:05, 3:24:20]: There are some Friday nights that we don't even leave to midnight and then back again on Sunday. So it just depends. So we like I say we're twenty four hours and we're seven days a week. We're not a Monday Monday through Friday. [3:24:20, 3:24:38]: At four fifty nine. That's not my staff. Right, again for clarification like the number on what that is. And also in terms of um are we still giving the key to people on the weekend or we ha do we have you saying now we have staff there? [3:24:40, 3:25:00]: I'm saying that we have s we are still given the key. Um I've been in conversation with the past city manager, the current acting city manager, and the attorney and we're putting things in place to make sure that we can handle situations and issues on the week. [3:25:00, 3:25:08]: weekend and you may need to refer to the current city manager. I don't know if I'm at liberty to talk about those things. [3:25:08, 3:25:08]: Thank you. [3:25:09, 3:25:11]: Um sí, sí, um [3:25:12, 3:25:15]: Uh what I'm gonna say right now is that [3:25:15, 3:25:21]: Number one, this is not a place that we should be badgering an employee. [3:25:21, 3:25:24]: I would like to have these conversations um back [3:25:24, 3:25:27]: in somebody's office where we can ask questions. [3:25:28, 3:25:34]: So I would like to bring this uh conversation with someone I have a question. When do you get a chance, Mayor? [3:25:43, 3:25:49]: I would like to bring this conversation with C C as far as questioning her about [3:25:50, 3:25:54]: how many hours they are at the facility. [3:25:56, 3:25:57]: It is [3:25:57, 3:26:00]: a seven day a week thing, what they're doing. [3:26:00, 3:26:03]: And I'm going to defend the staff that [3:26:04, 3:26:07]: They are there working a lot. [3:26:08, 3:26:09]: Late hours. [3:26:10, 3:26:13]: And now they're being asked to put on another event. [3:26:14, 3:26:22]: And employees don't like to stand up to council members because they're afraid they'll be fired. [3:26:23, 3:26:28]: And I would like to make a suggestion that this motion be reconsidered. [3:26:30, 3:26:35]: It's up to Mr Ford if he would like to re um ask for reconsideration. [3:26:35, 3:26:39]: But it's very obvious that we have an employee in front of us. [3:26:40, 3:26:41]: Who is trying [3:26:42, 3:26:49]: to tell you that she does not have time to put this on successfully with all that they already have on their plate. [3:26:50, 3:26:50]: And [3:26:51, 3:26:52]: That's from your [3:26:53, 3:26:53]: Mayor. [3:26:54, 3:26:56]: And your acting city manager. [3:26:57, 3:27:04]: And that's my comment and if you all want to back up and start over or if you want to go forward. [3:27:04, 3:27:05]: CC's not gonna [3:27:06, 3:27:07]: Tell you no. [3:27:08, 3:27:11]: But C C has told us [3:27:12, 3:27:14]: That this is hard. [3:27:14, 3:27:14]: When you get [3:27:15, 3:27:19]: When things are thrown at you at the last minute, when you've already got other big projects going on. [3:27:20, 3:27:24]: So I'm gonna let the council decide your own conscience about it. [3:27:24, 3:27:38]: And then if we want to ask more questions of CC's exact number of hours or times that she's at the conference center, we'll do that um back in the HR office. I withdraw the question. [3:27:40, 3:27:41]: Thank you, Mr. Dowtsander. [3:27:41, 3:27:43]: All right, Mr Blount, please. [3:27:45, 3:27:47]: The question was about the concert. [3:27:48, 3:27:56]: At the time when we get off of when we get off of subject of concert, where we're gonna have a concert and what that encompasses [3:27:57, 3:27:59]: That was the question on the table. [3:28:00, 3:28:03]: This is why I tried to call a point of order. [3:28:04, 3:28:06]: that wasn't adhered to. [3:28:07, 3:28:11]: And this is why I'm talking like this because it should have been a point of order. [3:28:12, 3:28:19]: You are not on trial here. You're only here to be asked questions. I want to personally apologize to you for going through that. [3:28:20, 3:28:29]: I've seen staff do the best that they can do over there. I've seen you all work concerts. I've seen you all serve us. You're not on trial. [3:28:29, 3:28:32]: And if you say it can't be done, it can't be done. [3:28:33, 3:28:34]: As simple as that. [3:28:35, 3:28:39]: And we don't we don't have I've always told you before [3:28:39, 3:28:41]: Everybody here is City Hall. [3:28:42, 3:28:46]: And I'm pretty sure every council member feels that way, but I'm talking about me. [3:28:47, 3:28:49]: I see the work that everyone is doing around here. [3:28:50, 3:29:01]: And when we get to a point where we can bring a employee up here that we see is doing what they're supposed to do and get off track and start wondering how who are you giving keys to, that's behind closed doors. [3:29:03, 3:29:10]: That had nothing to do with what we were discussing here. This is why I tried to get a point of order to the mayor. [3:29:10, 3:29:12]: that wasn't listened to. [3:29:12, 3:29:28]: So I thank you for what you're doing. Mr. Blount, I would like to say to you publicly, if you ask for a point of order, I apologize, I did not hear you. I asked twice, Mayor. [3:29:29, 3:29:37]: You're gonna have to speak up if you want want me to hear you. Sometimes when uh somebody else is talking it's difficult to hear your soft voice. [3:29:38, 3:29:39]: C C [3:29:40, 3:29:41]: Any other comments? [3:29:43, 3:29:49]: All right, Mr Ford, we'll go back to you or we'll move forward. We have a motion to um [3:29:50, 3:30:01]: to add another concert for fifteen thousand dollars. We're asking our event special coordinator to uh make that happen. Um we've had a long discussion about it. [3:30:02, 3:30:07]: Uh all in favor or Mr. Ford, do you want to withdraw? Actually I don't. [3:30:07, 3:30:14]: Okay, let's move forward with a vote. All in favor of a third concert at the tune of fifteen thousand, please raise your hand. [3:30:18, 3:30:19]: Mm. [3:30:19, 3:30:19]: We [3:30:20, 3:30:24]: Do I see two votes and Ms. Robinson is not on the floor? [3:30:27, 3:30:28]: Ms. Robinson's not on the floor. [3:30:29, 3:30:29]: Yeah. [3:30:32, 3:30:35]: We'll give her five minutes to come back in before we vote. [3:30:36, 3:30:37]: Mayo. [3:30:37, 3:30:38]: Here she comes. [3:30:39, 3:30:40]: Ms. Robinson, we're voting. [3:30:41, 3:30:50]: Uh although we are already taking a vote on that, again, had we heard from C C prior to making the motions, we could have made I could have made an educated decision. [3:30:51, 3:30:56]: prior to seconding that motion. So uh maybe we should reconsider in the future. [3:30:57, 3:31:05]: when a discussion item comes up before we rush to get a motion completed to hear out from staff what it would take to get f something done. [3:31:06, 3:31:06]: Thank you. [3:31:07, 3:31:11]: All right, all in favor of moving forward with the summer concert. [3:31:12, 3:31:13]: Please raise your hand. [3:31:15, 3:31:23]: We have two votes. The motion has failed. Thank you, Cece, for coming to the Mayorney, you actually need to call for that vote because someone may abstain. [3:31:23, 3:31:27]: Oh thank you. Did anyone abstain? [3:31:28, 3:31:29]: [12691.2, 12702.4]: All right, let's start over. We had two votes, four. Please raise your hand if you're for it. Let the clerk get the names. All right, we have two, four. Do we have anyone to abstain? I abstain. [3:31:43, 3:31:46]: All right. We have one to abstain and two opposed. [3:31:47, 3:31:49]: I need to vote on the opposed. [3:31:50, 3:31:53]: [12714.0, 12718.1]: All right, we have two opposed, one abstained and two for it. [3:31:58, 3:31:59]: Thank you. [3:32:00, 3:32:05]: All right, got a tie. I'm gonna vote on behalf of the staff member who has indicated that she [3:32:06, 3:32:07]: We d there's no tie. [3:32:08, 3:32:11]: We have two in favor, two opposed and one abstain. [3:32:14, 3:32:33]: Oh you do need to vote. Yeah. Make a note of that, our clerk. Sorry. Okay, we have two for, we have two against those opposed and those abstained. That's normal. And one abstained. [3:32:34, 3:32:35]: Okay. [3:32:35, 3:32:37]: In favor. [3:32:37, 3:32:41]: We have two opposed and we have one abstained. Mayor Neal, your vote. [3:32:41, 3:32:56]: And I'm going to vote no because we have been told that CC does not have time to put it together earlier. So I'm sorry but I'm gonna vote no on that, Mr Ford. Sorry to do that to you. Thank you. [3:32:57, 3:32:57]: Okay. [3:33:00, 3:33:06]: All right, let's move on. We have a second event. This one is uh to talk about um [3:33:06, 3:33:26]: funding or or about the Bridge Fest event, so we'll need C C to stay here for that also. Um Mr Ford made an earlier motion. Mr. Ford, uh would you like to bring that back? Yeah, thank you mayor I appreciate it. And this is in reference to Oktoberfest and last year Octoberfest Hispanic Fest was conducted uh during uh Hispanic Heritage [3:33:26, 3:33:33]: month is such a great success. I'd like to see that happen again. I hope that the the council would like to see that again and and like to properly fund that. [3:33:33, 3:33:53]: So on the Hispanic Fest side they have the mout proper amount of funding and staging that they need to have the uh uh personnel come here and have another great event in the city in a downtown area. So and I believe they that that part of that was was that five thousand, ten thousand dollars they need out of that. Do you know? [3:33:54, 3:34:11]: It's roughly around five. We have a meeting with scheduled with them tomorrow to get um an idea of what they actually need. But from my previous conversations with the Hispanic organization they need at least five to do what they need to do. [3:34:12, 3:34:26]: All right, so I I would like to make a motion that to fund the additional funds for the October slash Hispanic Fest, I'd like to make it ten thousand just in case for room for room on that aspect. Ten thousand. [3:34:26, 3:34:28]: They're coming out of fund balance. [3:34:28, 3:34:40]: And just a correction is Bridge Fest featuring Hispanics. Okay, okay, excuse me. All right. Bridgefest slash Hispanic Fest. Ten thousand out of out of funds, out of uh out of the reserves for that. [3:34:42, 3:34:44]: [12884.5, 12886.2]: Motion on the floor. [3:34:46, 3:34:46]: Okay. [3:34:47, 3:34:50]: And um do we have a second? [3:34:51, 3:34:56]: A motion and a second. We have Miss Robinson has a question during discussion. [3:34:56, 3:35:01]: Is there a way that we can I think we did this once before um [3:35:02, 3:35:22]: 'Cause they're asking for five. Is there a way we we can word this some kind of way?'Cause this is ten thousand dollars, I just don't want it to be out there and we're just using the ten. I mean, um attorney, we did once before not to exceed a certain amount. Can we [3:35:22, 3:35:24]: [12928.3, 12933.5]: Right. Yes, not to see ten thousand. I'm sorry, that's what I said that basically yes, not to see ten thousand. [3:35:34, 3:35:35]: Okay. [3:35:35, 3:35:36]: Acceptable? [3:35:38, 3:35:40]: Mayor. Yes. Mr Bly. [3:35:44, 3:35:45]: Up fly. [3:35:45, 3:35:46]: Uh um [3:35:47, 3:35:50]: I'm for this because I thought it was [3:35:51, 3:35:53]: I thought it was the one of the best [3:35:54, 3:35:59]: interactions of multicultural event I've been to and ever been to. [3:36:00, 3:36:01]: Oh. [3:36:02, 3:36:06]: Well interest the motion there, but uh but it's uh sorry. [3:36:07, 3:36:15]: How do you look uh Mayor Proteir or throw the other extra five in? Uh so with that a our attorney [3:36:15, 3:36:18]: If the negotiation is five thousand [3:36:19, 3:36:25]: Is that where you perceive it to staying at five? Even I even though uh the motion's on the floor. [3:36:26, 3:36:29]: If we approved the proved it proved the ten [3:36:30, 3:36:46]: Do you perceive it staying at the file? I'm sorry. We we have a comment from our attorney. Madam Mayor, the the the previous conversation that the council had indicated that they needed the additional funding for additional stage space. [3:36:47, 3:36:54]: So i if if that is what the amendment is for, for the logistical support for additional staging [3:36:55, 3:37:03]: then that's clear to us and whatever that number ends up being, as long as it's under ten, I think that's what the direction the staff will take. [3:37:04, 3:37:15]: And can I I just want to say one additional thing. I guess sitting here, um, even though let me ask you this, because you're working on it, you have your acts, um [3:37:16, 3:37:22]: Is it a possibility um using the additional funds that you know he's saying five? [3:37:23, 3:37:26]: to make Bridge Fest a little [3:37:27, 3:37:47]: even more to where we can upscale knowing that we already have it in line and like I said there would be entertainment already that they would be there for this and then we would still be in line with you know not going over budget by like what we're trying to do adding the additional concert. [3:37:47, 3:38:07]: So that way you can put it out there, the advertisement for Bridge Fest that possibly can bring in the crowd that we saw the last time. And I think that advertisement would probably help what the council was saying, if they're adding another, um, if would that be a possibility for that? [3:38:07, 3:38:10]: advertisement to bring the people in. [3:38:12, 3:38:27]: Yes, I I believe that would be, but I would like to have clarification for the ten. Does that go to the budget for the overall event and working along with the Hispanic organization? [3:38:27, 3:38:30]: to work their expenditures. [3:38:30, 3:38:32]: into the final budget. [3:38:33, 3:38:35]: and not just give them the ten. [3:38:36, 3:38:42]: [13123.6, 13140.9]: The main focus to me is to make sure that w that's the charge, to make sure they're financially where they need to be so we can continue with this um partnership or relationship, not just partnership but relationship with them because we reached out to them. [3:39:01, 3:39:17]: Okay, so I don't wanna have it to where okay, we did all the advertisement but we just didn't, you know, include them. I would hope, like you said, your professionalism you would incorporate everything as one because all of this represents the city of Stockbridge. Okay. [3:39:17, 3:39:21]: Mayor Mr Forward was next. [3:39:21, 3:39:24]: It uh reclarify this motion [3:39:24, 3:39:26]: You start over again here or what? [3:39:26, 3:39:40]: Uh Madam Mayor, if I may, again, you know my understanding was that the additional funding was just for staging, but if you're gonna add advertising and maybe additional expenditures, yes, that is a different uh amendment. [3:39:40, 3:39:40]: Mm. [3:39:41, 3:39:48]: Do you like to restate your motion? But Mayor Mayor, before he restates, I just I have a question. [3:39:49, 3:40:09]: Could it be because the Hispanic commun the Hispanic community has stated they needed five thousand dollars for the stage, could we and and Councilman Apportem Ford suggested that we do ten. Could it be the five thousand that they requested? We're approving that. And then the additional five goes towards [3:40:09, 3:40:24]: Bridge Fest in any manner you see fit to help with the entire festival. That could include the Hispanic portion, but for everything in total. And and it could that be the case? [3:40:24, 3:40:25]: Mayor. [3:40:26, 3:40:27]: Uh yes, Mr. Blount. [3:40:30, 3:40:32]: You as an event person you [3:40:33, 3:40:39]: that we believe you're professional and that you're negotiating with the Hispanics for the Hispanic Feds. [3:40:40, 3:40:44]: But you came thus asking for a a set amount to make it work. [3:40:46, 3:40:50]: for the Hispanic Fest. Now we're we're we're actually adding all these different components. [3:40:50, 3:40:52]: You know, it's like [3:40:53, 3:40:55]: If if they say five thousand dollars [3:40:57, 3:41:01]: I'm just not agreeable to raising that amount to ten thousand. [3:41:02, 3:41:11]: You know, if it's if they're asking for five and if it's five thousand dollars and it works like it did last year, I thought was awes awesome last year. [3:41:13, 3:41:13]: Mayor. [3:41:15, 3:41:16]: Uh Mr. Alexander. [3:41:16, 3:41:23]: I I would uh simply say we the request was for a stage. That's it. [3:41:24, 3:41:44]: We can batter this around all night long, but the requests are for a stage. And we're sitting here and you're charged basically with uh negotiating that to get the stage. I don't think for a second that you're gonna go out and just take the money and just spend it. It's the not to exceed has already been mentioned, which is a protection and [3:41:44, 3:41:55]: And now we just talked about your professionalism, everybody here talked about it. We would just at this point I would think that's what we would expect to happen, is that's what you would do, right? [3:41:57, 3:41:58]: Correct. [3:42:00, 3:42:00]: Yeah. [3:42:01, 3:42:21]: Let's get back to Mr. Ford again. I think the b not to see ten thousand is great in this aspect, simply because you said you're meeting with them tomorrow. The rough estimate of our heard is five thousand four stage, but when you meet tomorrow there may be some additional things that that you may need to do, whether it's additional advertising or upscale acts. That's why it's not to see ten thousand dollars. [3:42:20, 3:42:36]: aspect. I mean uh that's why I think it's safe and and of course we got to believe in you and and coordinating with the the Hispanic community's representatives to make this a success. You'll do that. Now back to your attorney. Do I need to restate anything any differently or or or is this all right? [3:42:36, 3:42:37]: Uh [3:42:37, 3:42:40]: I think what you just said [3:42:40, 3:42:46]: should be the motion. The the original motion was ten thousand. We thought it would be for just the stage and maybe [3:42:47, 3:43:07]: You know Okay, I'd like to restate my motion. I'd like to restate my motion that that the the council considers five thousand dollars for the Spanish for Hispanic Fest part of the uh uh Bridge Fest for estates and additional five thousand dollars not to see ten thousand for additional funding, advertising, or upscale uh um [3:43:07, 3:43:14]: uh groups or a uh or entertainment to celebrate the Hispanic community during the actual uh [3:43:15, 3:43:17]: British West. Sir. Here you go. [3:43:17, 3:43:22]: We have a motion and a second now from Mr Board and Mr Alexander with a second. [3:43:24, 3:43:25]: Is there any discussion further? [3:43:26, 3:43:28]: Miss Robinson. [3:43:28, 3:43:29]: Oh. [3:43:29, 3:43:30]: Okay. [3:43:30, 3:43:33]: All right. No discussion from anyone. [3:43:33, 3:43:36]: Okay, if uh all in favor, please raise your hand. [3:43:38, 3:43:42]: Okay, we have four four and Mr Blount voting [3:43:42, 3:43:42]: No. [3:43:43, 3:43:44]: All right, thank you. [3:43:45, 3:43:46]: All right, we're gonna go. [3:43:46, 3:43:48]: We're uh yes, thank you, Cece. [3:43:49, 3:43:54]: All right, we're moving on now to the third thing that was on our um [3:43:55, 3:44:02]: New business and it's the second quarter budget amendments presented by Linda Neighbors, our treasurer, if Ms. Nabers will come up. [3:44:45, 3:44:45]: Yeah. [3:45:10, 3:45:13]: I don't hear anything. [3:45:16, 3:45:18]: Mm-hmm. [3:45:19, 3:45:25]: Okay, we don't have it long. Huh? You're fine, I haven't fine. They have a different voice. [3:45:39, 3:45:44]: Okay, so I hope everybody has the budget amendment in front of them. [3:45:44, 3:45:45]: Okay. [3:45:46, 3:45:47]: All right. [3:45:47, 3:45:52]: The um I'll just start at the beginning. It's twenty seventeen and it's [3:45:53, 3:45:58]: Budget amendment zero zero two and this is for the second quarter of twenty seventeen. [3:45:59, 3:46:02]: These are items that have been brought um [3:46:03, 3:46:07]: forward to me and uh what we'll do is [3:46:07, 3:46:18]: I would say maybe we'll go through all of the items and then if there's any questions and then we'll go back and vote on each item. Is that agreeable to everybody? [3:46:27, 3:46:41]: Okay, so item A is um on the salaries for the mayor. Um it was a budgeting error where um I thought that it was actually fourteen hundred dollars a month and it's currently [3:46:41, 3:46:44]: is twelve hundred dollars a month. That's [3:46:44, 3:46:46]: That actually is a savings line. [3:46:47, 3:46:50]: B is for travel for the council. [3:46:51, 3:46:55]: And um that would to include we we did not [3:46:55, 3:47:00]: include travel for Mayor's Day for the whole council, so that should cover [3:47:01, 3:47:05]: the travel. That's B. C is education and training for council. [3:47:06, 3:47:13]: the same thing about the Mayors Day. We had not uh budgeted for the entire council to go to Mayors Day. [3:47:14, 3:47:15]: Um [3:47:16, 3:47:25]: The item D is a council initiative to raise it back to uh an allotted amount of twenty five hundred dollars each council member. [3:47:26, 3:47:28]: E is for temporary [3:47:29, 3:47:31]: employee and occupational tax [3:47:32, 3:47:36]: That is for eighteen thousand three hundred dollars. [3:47:37, 3:47:44]: F is for um the buildings facility, the supervisor that we budgeted for has not been filled. [3:47:45, 3:47:46]: And at this [3:47:46, 3:47:51]: time the public works director wishes not to move forward to fill that position. [3:47:51, 3:47:55]: That is actually the what we have saving so far. [3:47:55, 3:47:57]: um in that budgeted position. [3:47:57, 3:48:06]: thirty eight thousand for salaries, insurance and pension is fifteen thousand and four forty four fifty four respectively. [3:48:06, 3:48:09]: G is for the on call. [3:48:09, 3:48:13]: landscaping that Deshus talked about that he had um bid out. [3:48:14, 3:48:15]: Uh [3:48:15, 3:48:22]: H is for the lighting in front of City Hall. This had not been budgeted for but this is the lighting that we talked about earlier. [3:48:23, 3:48:23]: Down. [3:48:24, 3:48:24]: Uh [3:48:25, 3:48:28]: North Henry Boulevard here, in front of the school. [3:48:28, 3:48:43]: I is a vehicle uh F three fifty it was actually ordered in twenty sixteen and there was budgeted number uh a budgeted amount in twenty sixteen for that vehicle, it just came in and I paid for it in twenty seventeen. [3:48:44, 3:48:47]: J is equipment, three tractors, um [3:48:48, 3:48:52]: Public Works is asking for three trackers to help them in the grass cutting initiatives. [3:48:53, 3:48:59]: K is for um K is where we're balancing this so we don't have to come out of fund balance. We had [3:49:00, 3:49:06]: uh the sale of surplus items in the general fund of fifty eight thousand four hundred and forty one dollars. [3:49:07, 3:49:09]: That's the general fund activity. [3:49:10, 3:49:11]: Then um [3:49:12, 3:49:14]: L is the backhoe. [3:49:14, 3:49:18]: And it's gonna come out of the water sewer fund balance. [3:49:18, 3:49:24]: And it it will be shared between several departments but it will be purchased out of water sewer fund balance. [3:49:26, 3:49:28]: EM is equipment. [3:49:28, 3:49:30]: uh is for Street Sweeper. [3:49:30, 3:49:38]: We've been bandaging the street sweeper that we have for several years and it is something we need to move forward with. We had [3:49:38, 3:49:46]: um budgeted for the line item uh to contract that service out of a hundred thousand and we'll have to come out of fund balance for a hundred and [3:49:47, 3:49:48]: uh fifty thousand more. [3:49:49, 3:49:49]: For it. [3:49:49, 3:49:53]: Purchase of the street sweeper will be a total of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [3:49:55, 3:49:59]: N is for the Merlmander um temporary [3:49:59, 3:50:02]: employees that C C referred to earlier. [3:50:03, 3:50:10]: N is for computer software for a mobile app that C C is looking to help for her marketing. [3:50:10, 3:50:21]: And of course these will have to come out of fund balance of the general fund because they're um we're already subsidizing the budget that's there for um [3:50:22, 3:50:24]: all their expenses so far. [3:50:25, 3:50:28]: So I guess we just um [3:50:29, 3:50:31]: Does anybody want to ask any questions? Yes. [3:50:32, 3:50:34]: A uh Mr. Robinson. [3:50:35, 3:50:39]: So with the personnel at Merl Manders, we're using temps. [3:50:40, 3:50:44]: I mean, is there a possibility that we can hire someone? [3:50:45, 3:50:47]: Additional help over there? [3:50:48, 3:50:59]: Oh, when they stepped out.'Cause I see we have on here for the position that we're not we're not going to fill, but if that's an uh you know, something that we can provide them additional help [3:50:59, 3:51:03]: over there. [3:51:04, 3:51:08]: the different funds or it's not recommended to cross between the different funds. [3:51:08, 3:51:12]: But Renee will have to talk more about the headcount. [3:51:12, 3:51:15]: Okay. Um she stepped out but um [3:51:16, 3:51:19]: Currently there is um the [3:51:19, 3:51:24]: Vince Coordinator is housed over at Merrill Manders and then C C does she live. [3:51:31, 3:51:35]: So um anyway, so uh [3:51:39, 3:51:41]: So there is [3:51:42, 3:51:48]: Andy Conywell and the events coordinators housed over there and the rest they run with temporary employees. [3:51:49, 3:51:49]: Um [3:51:50, 3:51:53]: And that's what she was asking for is additional temporary help. [3:51:54, 3:51:55]: Okay. Additional chance. Okay. [3:51:57, 3:52:05]: We have budgeted forty thousand already for that line item and she says she would exceed it in this year coming closer to sixty thousand is what [3:52:06, 3:52:07]: Um [3:52:08, 3:52:12]: So I'm sorry if you wait just a minute, maybe they can address the head count a little better. [3:52:12, 3:52:30]: Uh there may be another question meantime, Mr Ford. Yes. Thank you. The ten thousand we just uh uh approved that goes where on here? Well I'll have to add another line and it will be coming out of fund balance. Okay. So what is it spit in in this does it go to um P [3:52:30, 3:52:35]: Q or something like that or or what? Does it you got these all in uh in order and by numbers? [3:52:35, 3:52:40]: Well, I probably well, I don't wanna shift it. I'll call it um [3:52:41, 3:52:44]: I may call it twenty seventeen oh oh three. [3:52:44, 3:52:54]: a whole new budget amendment. Okay, I see. Just so it'll be cleaner. Okay. All right. I just want to ask how'cause I I do make sure I keep up with the index of those in [3:52:55, 3:52:56]: Okay, thank you. [3:52:57, 3:52:58]: [13979.6, 13981.4]: Uh yes, Mr. Alexander. [3:53:01, 3:53:07]: I in reference to what we're doing here, I I just have some serious questions about [3:53:08, 3:53:24]: You know, we're going towards sixty thousand dollars here. Uh we have a mobile app uh that we're being we're we're this is like a a bottomless pit that's not returning I mean, I want Merrill Mandas to stay open. [3:53:24, 3:53:37]: But I've made the contention the longest that it's just not going to generate the funding or the type of revenue that would actually sustain it. But I don't wanna keep [3:53:37, 3:53:56]: you know, shoveling money into a bottomless pit. We're we're trending in the wrong direction in terms of, okay, well, this year we got sixty thousand dollars budget for temporary staff. We got a hundred and over a hundred thousand dollars subsidizing. [3:53:56, 3:54:14]: uh Merrill Mandar. So we talk we're we're talking about almost two hundred thousand dollars at this point. When does the bleeding stop and we start trending back in the right direction uh for this particular area and if [3:54:14, 3:54:17]: I'm going to invest any more money into this facility. [3:54:18, 3:54:19]: Um [3:54:19, 3:54:22]: With a mobile app, with any marketing [3:54:22, 3:54:34]: What how much return on that investment are we actually uh going to see with us continuing to head in a negative direction? Mayor. [3:54:35, 3:54:55]: Uh yes. Mm Mr. Robinson. Since um our HR is standing, I get th and Councilman Alexander, I hear what you're saying, but I guess to me when we're saying staff, um we have events. Events could also be even like with our council initiatives, um so that way this [3:54:55, 3:54:58]: staff will be there because [3:54:59, 3:55:05]: really right now the way things are going, we're still pulling staff. [3:55:06, 3:55:17]: even with that. So I guess if um a Ms Wheeler, if you can touch on some suggestions that you may have that you can share with the council. [3:55:17, 3:55:20]: on the difference of how events and the Merrill Manders [3:55:21, 3:55:24]: Um, could be two different entities of what we're talking about. [3:55:25, 3:55:41]: Well number one you have to look at you have to look at staffing overall based on what you all are providing or wanting to happen over at Merrill Manders. And you're talking about basically two different areas. You're talking about Merrill Manders as an event or conference center. [3:55:42, 3:55:45]: for weddings or whatever. Then you have city events. [3:55:46, 3:55:50]: And you're mixing the two'cause you don't have enough staffing to hand to handle both. [3:55:51, 3:55:53]: Well you have two and a half people. [3:55:54, 3:55:58]: Literally you have two and a half people over there and they just they can't do it. [3:55:58, 3:56:04]: And then you have a facility that is open almost anywhere from eight to twelve hours. [3:56:04, 3:56:08]: Um continuously on the weekend, which has to be staffed. [3:56:09, 3:56:11]: And you don't have the staff to staff it. [3:56:11, 3:56:22]: You you don't have a public works person, you don't have a facilities person. So one of the ideas, I mean it's just something to look at later on, you're going to have to move events into the general fund. [3:56:23, 3:56:39]: And and and and staff it up for what you need for if you're going to do events because every time we have initiative it ends up becoming a count uh an event. So you keep adding to events but you don't add to the staff that is needed to put on these events. [3:56:39, 3:56:44]: And then you have a c you know, then you have Merrill Manders, which needs its own staff. [3:56:45, 3:56:48]: because of the constant, you know, facility maintenance. [3:56:48, 3:56:57]: the staffing of the Merrill Manders for the weddings and parties that go on there, you're still counting on two and a half people to do the same thing. [3:56:58, 3:57:01]: So you have to go back and really look at [3:57:01, 3:57:11]: You know, what are we doing here as far as staffing levels, events and the whole nine yards? And that probably will have to happen during the time when you have the council retreat on the budget. [3:57:12, 3:57:22]: So you can look at what's happening'cause I don't know if rural manners will ever be revenue generating. I mean, can you tr actually charge enough to make it profitable? [3:57:23, 3:57:30]: And if you charge too much and then you don't get you you don't rent it.'Cause people will go elsewhere,'cause everybody wants to go somewhere. [3:57:31, 3:57:35]: and and and you know and and um it and it's it has to be cost effective. [3:57:36, 3:57:40]: You know, you you just don't have the staffing to to manage the the whole thing. [3:57:41, 3:57:41]: Mm. [3:57:42, 3:57:43]: Uh yes, Mr. Blount. [3:57:44, 3:57:44]: Uh [3:57:44, 3:57:46]: One of the things I noticed [3:57:46, 3:57:49]: Ever l from even from last year to now. [3:57:50, 3:57:57]: I'm out when I go to the grocery stores, I'm out talking to a lot of people about the back to school kickoff. A lot of people. [3:57:58, 3:57:59]: I'm talking to churches. I'm talking to [3:58:00, 3:58:04]: And most of the people don't even know where Murray Mendes is. [3:58:05, 3:58:05]: [14286.4, 14289.5]: And a lot of'em are here and s live here in Stockbridge. [3:58:10, 3:58:28]: There's no signage. We don't have a PIO officer pushing it. We don't have any branding that shows what we have. It's it's one of the nicer facility out of the facilities out of the out of the four cities that are h here in Henry County, but we're not even we're not it it's not even nobody knows anything about it. [3:58:29, 3:58:33]: I have to s always say, do you know what a tag office is? [3:58:33, 3:58:39]: Do you know where the uh uh the uh the library is? Is that building at the end of the street? And they say, Oh yeah. [3:58:39, 3:58:43]: It's it's only recognizes the building next to the park. [3:58:44, 3:58:49]: The building next to the park. When you say Merrill Mandas, that means nothing to anybody. [3:58:49, 3:59:00]: So we until we start branding this place and really putting it on a map on what it is, we're we're always going to be in this situation. Nobody knows about this place. [3:59:01, 3:59:07]: And they live right here in city's conversation. [3:59:07, 3:59:10]: there so that you can have [3:59:10, 3:59:13]: all the the signage, the marketing, whatever you need. [3:59:13, 3:59:14]: Do [3:59:14, 3:59:14]: What? [3:59:14, 3:59:22]: it on the map so people know, billboards or whatever it is in in all these tr uh travel and and um [3:59:23, 3:59:40]: You know, public public rela you know, public relations uh materials in order to sell the place. If we don't do that, people are not gonna come. Well this is why we have the branding coming and we have a PRO. You have to put the money behind what it is you want to do. It's gonna take st it it takes a lot. [3:59:40, 3:59:48]: I think and I mean I'm I'm the HR so I'm just talking from the from my I don't you know, my own feelings is just that [3:59:48, 3:59:54]: My thing is staffing. We don't have the proper staffing there in order to just manage the facility. [3:59:54, 4:00:12]: Take away the marketing. The marketing is a whole nother budget that you all have to think about if you want to promote Merrill Manders to get it to the standard that you wanted to get so that you can reap some kind of benefit or cost benefit from having the facility. From what I understand it's never [4:00:12, 4:00:13]: uh been a moneymaker. [4:00:14, 4:00:15]: Never. [4:00:15, 4:00:18]: So to think that we're gonna try to do that now [4:00:18, 4:00:29]: You know, you have to have a good plan in place for how you want to really run the center and staff it properly so you don't overtax staff to the point where, you know [4:00:29, 4:00:32]: You have to juggle whether or not you what are you gonna do? [4:00:32, 4:00:34]: Mayor. Mayor. [4:00:34, 4:00:36]: Um I'd like to make a comment here. [4:00:36, 4:00:44]: This is a great topic of discussion that we need to have. I'm not sure tonight is the place, but the retreat certainly [4:00:44, 4:00:48]: is somewhere where we can discuss all of these things. [4:00:48, 4:00:51]: Also, I'd like to remind the council, and I know you know this, [4:00:52, 4:00:57]: that we are getting a new city manager right away. These are issues that we hope [4:00:57, 4:01:01]: We are putting we're trying to get a lot of things done. [4:01:01, 4:01:06]: um at the Merrill Manderson some things that need to be done over the next few months. [4:01:07, 4:01:11]: so that we can bring our center into a very competitive mode. [4:01:11, 4:01:14]: So these are conversations we need to have. [4:01:15, 4:01:35]: But for the for the moment uh we're talking about budget amendments, so let's stick to those for the moment and then we'll have a super discussion about the Merrill Mandor Center and how we can improve that and market it properly. Uh one thing I will follow up on [4:01:35, 4:01:35]: Um [4:01:36, 4:01:37]: that our HR [4:01:38, 4:01:41]: uh person uh Renee Wheeler just said [4:01:41, 4:01:43]: Staffing is everything. [4:01:43, 4:01:52]: And we we need to have somebody out marketing the Merrymander Center every day, eight hours a day. [4:01:53, 4:02:00]: We expect C C to market that but yet we pull C C off to do a thousand other things. [4:02:00, 4:02:20]: So this is just a topic of conversation. It's a great topic that's come up tonight and it's a good topic that we'll be able to talk about as the new city manager comes in and we'll try to make some changes because we're all in agreement. We need to we need to do something to fix some of these problems. [4:02:20, 4:02:22]: and staffing is part of it. [4:02:22, 4:02:27]: So let's get back to the budget amendments and then we'll talk about all those things when we get to our retreat. [4:02:28, 4:02:28]: Mayor. [4:02:29, 4:02:49]: Yes, ma'am. Ms. Gamp. Thank you. Um in regards to the budget, um, and line item Oh, the computer software for mobile app, I just wanted to see d have we gotten the software complete for the scheduling for the events and all that up and running right now with the parks and all uh it took a while, but [4:02:49, 4:02:58]: I'm hoping that we already have at least that software up and running right now first and then you can explain to us what this mobile app is, if you don't mind. [4:03:02, 4:03:06]: Yes, uh we do have the so the scheduling software [4:03:06, 4:03:26]: up and running. Um we've been using it in house um since the first of the month. It's it's operating very well. We do um see that it will be a great asset and amenity as toward customer service to our customers. [4:03:26, 4:03:38]: mobile app is something that we would like to have as you know being a human, the first thing that you do every day is pick up your phone. [4:03:38, 4:03:58]: as we move into the new millennial, we have to stay competitive with other cities, other companies, and we want people to know what we're doing. We need to get into the digital marketing age. Right now we're operating like we're in nineteen ninety nine. We're not even in two thousand [4:03:58, 4:04:18]: when it comes to marketing. People don't listen to the radio that much, they don't look at television that much as I don't even know how many cable channels people have an opportunity to look at their favorite program and they're going to fire sticks. So we have to get in the mobile age. We want people [4:04:18, 4:04:37]: to pick up their mobile phones and be able to download the Stockbridge app to get updated information, to be able to be connected to what we're doing in the city, not only just for events, but for business. So this we would like to be able to m to move into the digital marketing age. [4:04:39, 4:04:57]: Any other comments? Yes, I had a question about there was a budget amendment a and it kinda I just want to have Mr. Ayer understand. I keep trying to say what do you need and um and trying to grow the staff. We we're going to hire facilities maintenance person [4:04:57, 4:05:17]: I I I'm under the my opinion that we just don't have enough tre people, but every time we try to put somebody on the list it's stripped down. I i I'm frustrated with this. Can someone please tell me why we would possibly eliminate the facilities majorness person and when we're trying to grow the staff so we can add [4:05:17, 4:05:19]: adequately take care of the city. [4:05:24, 4:05:26]: Mr Aaron, please. [4:05:26, 4:05:26]: Yes, sir. [4:05:27, 4:05:35]: Uh the reason why we took it out of this year's we're gonna put it in next year's budget, but there are some things right now that are more important than [4:05:35, 4:05:42]: I'ma have somebody here that just making calls that I can make to come look at the air conditioner that can do other things. [4:05:42, 4:05:44]: This has gotta be a person that [4:05:44, 4:05:47]: He's gonna handle multiple buildings. He's gotta be able to [4:05:47, 4:06:04]: to take care of these buildings and do other things. Right now it's just some other things that are more important right now and I didn't want that money sitting out there when public works can use it on a another arena. We're gonna fill this position next year. But like I said, right now we're building a foundation and we just [4:06:05, 4:06:12]: It would be temporary right now if you hired somebody but for what we're doing right now, until we get to that point [4:06:12, 4:06:31]: and to get a a a really qualified person in, then I want to do the proper vetting to get the right person in here. I don't just want to say, Oh well, I got X amount of dollars to hire a facility person and I do that and a person sits there right now, he's making phone calls. Well strictly mechanical, the air's not working at City Hall. [4:06:31, 4:06:32]: О [4:06:32, 4:06:33]: You know [4:06:33, 4:06:38]: Uh some admiral managed they tore tore down a paper towel with dispenser. [4:06:38, 4:06:48]: Can we get somebody to replace that? We gotta do this thing right where when that person comes in here, they got a definite agenda you have for'em, what you wanna see done. [4:06:49, 4:07:01]: We we just gotta do this thing right and and just putting a body in here and saying we got a facilities maintenance supervisor, if it's not done right then you just gonna have a person that pretty much sitting here. [4:07:01, 4:07:11]: We gotta take time to get the right person. And and I don't wanna sit here and just say, Well, I got this position, I'm gonna hire somebody'cause that's not the answer right now. [4:07:11, 4:07:13]: We got other things that um [4:07:13, 4:07:28]: a lot more important that we gotta get in place before we we look at doing this. So we are gonna add somebody in there. We still it's coming, just not right now. It's gonna be in in two thousand and eighteen budget, but right now the year's almost over and [4:07:29, 4:07:45]: We just got some other things that we really need to address before we focus on that. And then I have one final question in terms of I don't know whether this is finance or what. I've been trying to understand how how how things are set up on terms of the R chart and how things are accounted for. [4:07:45, 4:07:50]: To me, the concerts are Main Street downtown events. [4:07:51, 4:08:11]: Uh what is the designation between whether it's a Main Street event or whether it's a city event? Main Street has like a two hundred thousand dollar budget now, but we're scrapping over here for money. To me everything in downtown should be Main Street. They have we hired an additional uh full time assistant [4:08:10, 4:08:17]: to help the Main Street program, why why is that not the direction that these events are going in? [4:08:17, 4:08:25]: Well, the DCA Chart of Accounts, Department of Community Affairs, that dictates the um of course it wouldn't dictate the organization of [4:08:25, 4:08:27]: your orc chart but [4:08:27, 4:08:29]: It designates [4:08:29, 4:08:34]: Main Street as a certain area and then it would say events, their city events. [4:08:34, 4:08:40]: Um there's different ways for you to group them but right now they're grouped according to [4:08:40, 4:08:45]: The Main Street and their designated um I don't know, we don't have any Main Street people do. [4:08:47, 4:08:47]: Um [4:08:48, 4:08:53]: CC could I mean sorry, C C Cura could more elaborate on that, but [4:08:55, 4:08:58]: I would say downtown is like [4:08:58, 4:09:01]: You're taking care of your downtown [4:09:01, 4:09:19]: operations which would be your businesses that are there as opposed to having events. Well they do have I mean I I to beg to differ but they have movies and they do they do have events. So I'm trying to see what the difference is or maybe we probably should defer we could probably discuss it at the retreat thing. [4:09:21, 4:09:28]: Okay. Let's if we can, let's get back to our budget amendments. Do you have any questions? We're gonna start with um [4:09:29, 4:09:29]: Men yeah. [4:09:30, 4:09:33]: Okay, I have one more question from Ms. Gantt. [4:09:35, 4:09:42]: After all the explanations, I would like to motion make a motion that we approve the budget amendment as written without having to go line by line. [4:09:45, 4:09:46]: Do I hear a second? [4:09:47, 4:09:48]: I'll second that. [4:09:48, 4:09:51]: Um Madam May, um [4:09:51, 4:09:52]: [14993.0, 14998.2]: Approving it as written does not include uh the amendment y'all made prior. [4:09:58, 4:10:15]: I'm sorry, including I I would rephrase that. I would like to make a motion to approve the budget to include everything that's written here that we've been presented tonight, as well as the ten thousand dollar amendment for the Bridge Fest. [4:10:16, 4:10:20]: And so we're gonna call this as it's written. We're gonna call this a budget amendment. [4:10:21, 4:10:23]: two zero one seven dash zero zero two [4:10:24, 4:10:27]: I'm gonna call the ten thousand dollars that was for [4:10:27, 4:10:28]: The bridge fast. [4:10:28, 4:10:29]: It's Spain affairs. [4:10:30, 4:10:33]: That's gonna be called twenty seventeen dash oh oh three. [4:10:34, 4:10:39]: While it seems like it's technicality, it really helps me keep the index clean. [4:10:40, 4:10:45]: Yes. Thank you, Ms. Neighbors. [4:10:45, 4:11:00]: I I would like to make that motion to approve both twenty seventeen zero zero two and twenty seventeen zero zero three amendments. Okay, we have a motion by Miss Gantt for all the budget amendments and we have a second by Mr. Ford. [4:11:01, 4:11:03]: And is there any discussion at this point? [4:11:04, 4:11:24]: Yes, um I I really um wanted to talk about these uh items and I guess Miss Um Neighbors did go over the individual items but I mean I would like a explanation on some of'em because I thought that's what we did last time. What we did was we went down the list and if anybody had [4:11:23, 4:11:35]: had an objection of you, Mayor. Is that if it possible to for us to go down the list like we did last time and the motion was to take it all in one block. [4:11:36, 4:11:49]: That was the motion. Is that the motion you made? Yes ma'am. The motion that we're talking about. If if you want to vote against that, you'll have to vote against it. Well could you tell me uh in item number C [4:11:49, 4:11:55]: Uh we have education training and then we have um the travel. [4:11:56, 4:12:02]: Could you tell me why we're uh what items contributed to us being over the budget? [4:12:03, 4:12:06]: for these particular two items because we have a thirty five hundred dollar [4:12:07, 4:12:10]: travel in addition for the c uh for that. [4:12:10, 4:12:12]: And we have a twenty five hundred dollar [4:12:12, 4:12:13]: True, um [4:12:13, 4:12:16]: Uh so we have thirty five hundred dollar travel. [4:12:16, 4:12:21]: And then edu uh education and training we have twenty five hundred. What [4:12:21, 4:12:30]: What I know we had the mayor's day that was added uh'cause we decided to stay there. What else contributed to the Mayor can we get a call to order, please? [4:12:32, 4:12:45]: There's a motion and a second on the board to vote whether we're gonna vote for it all together. If we're gonna itemize it we're in the d that's different. That's the Blount. We're in the point of discussion. He has the right to ask a question. [4:12:47, 4:12:48]: Go ahead and answer the question. [4:12:49, 4:12:50]: So [4:12:50, 4:12:55]: Typically we had not budgeted for the h entire council to go to Mayor's Day. [4:12:56, 4:12:59]: And remember um the travel policy got changed. [4:13:00, 4:13:02]: And at the time that they changed the [4:13:02, 4:13:06]: um, travel policy to stay in downtown Atlanta. [4:13:07, 4:13:19]: they didn't adopt a new budget amendment w I which I wasn't over at that point. But now that the time has lapsed and we have gone to Savannah and the m mayor's day the Mayor's Day [4:13:19, 4:13:23]: in essence was what pushed our budget over. [4:13:24, 4:13:30]: Okay. I need to clarify that. Because the training [4:13:30, 4:13:31]: Was in the budget. [4:13:32, 4:13:37]: It's the lodging that was not in the budget. The training was in the budget because we actually have to book [4:13:38, 4:13:39]: They are training [4:13:39, 4:13:44]: in the prior year for Mayor State because that's in January. So the training was there. [4:13:45, 4:13:50]: The lodging. It's the lodging. [4:14:01, 4:14:02]: Was it was it true? [4:14:03, 4:14:05]: Yeah. [4:14:05, 4:14:06]: So um [4:14:07, 4:14:10]: Education and training. [4:14:11, 4:14:14]: What we had budgeted for was two thousand dollars. [4:14:15, 4:14:15]: A person. [4:14:17, 4:14:19]: And we still have [4:14:20, 4:14:22]: Jekyll Ireland coming up. [4:14:24, 4:14:29]: Wait a minute, I'm sorry. I said education okay, I'm talking about travel. I'm sorry. [4:14:29, 4:14:30]: In travel. [4:14:31, 4:14:35]: We have budgeted two thousand dollars a person at twelve thousand for the whole year. [4:14:37, 4:14:43]: We have Jekyll Island coming up that has per diems of two thousand three hundred and thirty three dollars. [4:14:45, 4:14:48]: That will push our budget over [4:14:48, 4:14:54]: or twelve thousand dollars because to date we've spent twelve thousand three hundred and forty nine dollars. [4:14:56, 4:15:02]: Could you think if you talk about the different events that people went to it is [4:15:02, 4:15:05]: Mayor's Day, everybody attended. [4:15:06, 4:15:20]: And that's for the education and training. Okay. The GMA, of course, you always have a newly elected, which we only had um Mayor Neal this time, which was a newly elected. And um [4:15:20, 4:15:21]: There is a GMA [4:15:22, 4:15:23]: The Macon [4:15:25, 4:15:28]: And GMA D D A at Lake Lanier. [4:15:29, 4:15:32]: We had GMA in making again. [4:15:33, 4:15:35]: The June GMA um [4:15:38, 4:15:42]: That was where everybody went to Savannah, right, Vanessa? Right. [4:15:42, 4:15:47]: June. June. And then there's the August Jekyll Island. [4:15:50, 4:16:10]: that's we've paid for already, have to pay for them in advance. And uh that that basically is events that everyone participated in. Okay, so the Lake Lanier that one was what I don't remember going to Lake Lanier. What was that the training that um went up to the um on what uh where I noted it was called [4:16:10, 4:16:13]: Called D D A at Lake Lanier and [4:16:13, 4:16:15]: I did have you that you went there. [4:16:17, 4:16:22]: The D D A in Lakeland there. There was another trip too, right? A Helen trip or something? [4:16:24, 4:16:26]: Mayor Neil, if I may. [4:16:26, 4:16:35]: Uh hold on just a minute. Are you finished with your question, Mr. Mm There was a trip there was another trip that was to Helen. I know I didn't go on it. [4:16:35, 4:16:40]: It was a clerk's training or something that we had seen in the budget that [4:16:40, 4:16:43]: We had exchanged some emails over there. [4:16:43, 4:16:57]: The clerk's budget would not be c included in the city. So what w it was another training I'd never see anything in Helen but that doesn't mean that [4:16:58, 4:17:00]: I don't I don't have anything noted for Helen. [4:17:00, 4:17:01]: Okay. [4:17:02, 4:17:22]: All right. If y'all satisfied that, okay. We now have a question from Miss Gantt. Well, more so a statement. In regards to the education and training, there might come a time where the ARC or different people have different trainings. I I don't think we should really harp on between the thirty five hundred and twenty five hundred and what trainings and what are we doing right now. [4:17:22, 4:17:42]: Now my concern is I think I recall us talking during football season and during the traffic where we were all going down to Mayor's Day in Atlanta and there was ice, there's snow, there could be anything at that time, and traffic delays and going to and from. [4:17:41, 4:18:01]: In fact, one of the other city council members in McDonough had given us a discussion that they used to laugh at us for having to drive back and forth even though it didn't fit within the parameters of mileage because of the inconvenience and the things that we were doing after hours. So we agreed we all agreed to [4:18:01, 4:18:21]: vote on the next time we had a budget amendment to vote on adding that amount which is this amount so that we can continue based off of the budget of what we were doing for stay purposes because the majority of us stayed during that time frame. I want to say that's that that one. Now in line item A, that was for the [4:18:21, 4:18:34]: Mayor, that was a salary adjustment, correct? Where it had been budgeted at fourteen hundred dollars a month and in actuality the ordinance says twelve hundred dollars a month. So that's savings. [4:18:34, 4:18:36]: The uh over budgeted. [4:18:36, 4:18:42]: by twenty four hundred dollars. So I'm using that line because I know I don't have actual [4:18:43, 4:19:03]: Okay. All right. And so you were using those lines basically showing a difference between the decreases and increases so it could balance out of what we what we have here. And and so Mayor, because of that and they show she showed the increases, decreases on how we got about to being able to pull those funds. [4:19:03, 4:19:16]: Um I I would think that there we should the motion is on the floor. I would hope that we are all satisfied and we can go ahead and vote. [4:19:16, 4:19:36]: Um Councilwoman Gantt since you included ARC, I just recall earlier this year I requested of counsel if that's something that I could attend and that was voted down. So I mean you're bringing that up now because earlier on this year I did say that I had interest of that [4:19:36, 4:19:56]: Um but I was voted down um to because I brought it before the council. And I also wanna say um I guess there was a trip that um I was it was stated when I was speaking with our clerk that we were over budget um for our training. So there was a trip that [4:19:56, 4:20:16]: again I did not um attend. Um we had our three of my other colleagues that they did. So I guess the point is we want to make sure if we're allowing you know certain members if we have a two thousand dollar or whatever allowance for training I'm hoping that we're keeping [4:20:16, 4:20:36]: you know, keeping good records of that because if not, then if there's just say if this line item a decrease, we don't want to just say, okay, well you guys the mayor's, you know, not providing her portion so you can go ahead and take that. Um because I guess with this travel I wasn't aware [4:20:36, 4:20:51]: of a certain travel that took place or training. I was not aware. I wasn't made aware. Um so when it was brought to my attention I was concerned as well because there has been ARC training that I have brought before my colleagues and it was, you know, sh [4:20:52, 4:20:59]: stated that okay, we're n you know, voted down basically. So I guess how can we in the future [4:20:59, 4:21:00]: Keep track. [4:21:01, 4:21:21]: of all of the training to align with the budget. So that way every council member member that sits up here knows exactly where we are um so that way it eliminate confusion of, you know, how did you get to do that? And [4:21:21, 4:21:41]: And you know, and how I couldn't w I wasn't able to do this. So um and I didn't make a big thing about but now we're talking about the budget. I'm just trying to say how can we moving forward align it to where everyone we're transparent with everything um moving forward. Well and then there'll be classes and I [4:21:41, 4:21:56]: I'm just speaking personally so it doesn't have anything to do with budget, but there'll be classes that will interest any of y'all and you'll say, Yeah, I think I'll get something out of that and I don't think that we oughta have to come up and vote, you know, can you go? Can you go? So [4:21:57, 4:22:17]: You know, I I think that there's a little bit of flexibility. At the same time, there's gonna be classes that will interest individuals and you know, you don't wanna be so restricted that you say, Oh no, you're not going'cause you didn't tell me And and that's where I felt I was restricted. But now that I know now that I know it's clear that [4:22:16, 4:22:33]: I know that that's an o you know, a v opportunity, then we won't have that. So I now that I know. So that's why it comes with getting an understanding with the budget. Excuse me, w Councilman Robinson. Okay. Let me finish, then you can talk. I will. So basically [4:22:33, 4:22:44]: it now that I know that each council member if there's an opportunity, but there again, do we have a like you're saying t two thousand dollars [4:22:45, 4:22:48]: You may have some that can just go all the time. [4:22:48, 4:22:51]: You know, I'm at a time now where I can go. [4:22:51, 4:23:09]: But I don't want to take from going over the budget to hinder someone else that may need to go later. You see what I'm saying? So h how are we doing that to ensure to coordinate that within e you know, between each other and But there again you're saying coordinate. [4:23:09, 4:23:29]: How do we know to coordinate? I mean is that something that Madam Clerk that you would do is Robinson. Um I think we can make that happen internally. We can certainly um uh every month um pass out a sheet that shows [4:23:29, 4:23:30]: Yeah. [4:23:30, 4:23:49]: How much money has been spent for travel for each um council member between the clerk and the treasurer that that can be taken care of and we'll do that. We have two other questions. One Mr. Blount is next and after that we'll go back to Ms. Scant. Thank you. [4:23:50, 4:23:50]: It's [4:23:51, 4:23:55]: I'm for the Bridge Fest and Hispanic Fest. [4:23:55, 4:24:01]: It was just the added amount and so it puts me in a position and I was for all of the [4:24:02, 4:24:13]: Since we're not lying item iteming the um amendment to the budget, it kinda puts me in an interesting position because I was for the [4:24:13, 4:24:17]: line items that was put in the budget for the amendment. [4:24:18, 4:24:32]: But I'm not for the extra five thousand dollars for the bridge fest, which made it ten. So then that means I'm put in a position not to vote for something that I was originally gonna vote for because we're not line item in it. [4:24:33, 4:24:34]: Player out. [4:24:34, 4:24:54]: Yes, ma'am. That's a quick fix for me. I can make the first motion and then I'll make the second motion because it's just it's two one one of them is a lump sum and the other one was separate. So I I will draw my motion for that and make it a separate two separate motions. In regards to I'm sorry. No, go ahead. In regards to [4:24:54, 4:25:11]: to the um comment from Councilwoman Robinson, you are incorrect. When you asked about the ARC, we didn't deny you from going to the ARC. You asked for a separate line item budget for ARC and we stated that we we call that line item travel. [4:25:12, 4:25:32]: So it's actually any travel, any classes, anything, um you can actually find it on tape, it's been recorded. Um and I remember specifically stating that you don't need an ARC budget to go to your ARC class. I took it and I actually told you I'd take the ARC classes and receive certification for them. [4:25:32, 4:25:52]: that we use our travel budget to go to any classes. And so y how you measure a tick for tat on who does what and what they're spending money on to go to what class, I think is is childish. I think that we should consider this scam. [4:25:52, 4:25:52]: We're [4:25:53, 4:26:00]: That that's far enough. I'm gonna stop you right there if you don't mind. At this point, if I could. [4:26:00, 4:26:11]: um explain how the travel and training for the year is put together. We get the calendar and the courses from GMA. [4:26:12, 4:26:30]: We sit down with every single council member and we line out every course they're going to take for the year. We pull out their transcript so that classes are not duplicated and we schedule classes for the entire year. [4:26:30, 4:26:35]: And that budget and we base that based on the budget that has been approved by the council. [4:26:36, 4:26:46]: What happens is GMA will issue additional courses throughout the year that were not in their original coursework. [4:26:47, 4:26:56]: And council members elect to attend those classes. And that's why they made fornication go over budget than what was originally adopted. [4:26:57, 4:26:58]: Washer. [4:26:58, 4:27:13]: Just l one last question. Okay, we've got one more question. I I understand what you just said, but back into reference what Councilwoman Robinson and I were talking about, there was a trip that was taken by three members up here that neither one of us knew anything about. [4:27:14, 4:27:21]: How h if you sit down all year and plan everything out, why wasn't that trip listed? [4:27:21, 4:27:27]: Councilman, you and I differ on that because a copy was placed in everybody's mail bin. [4:27:28, 4:27:34]: And that's all I can say. If you say you didn't get it, you didn't get it. I can just tell you what was placed in everybody's mailbin. [4:27:36, 4:27:42]: That's all I can say today. Okay. All right. Let's go ahead. Um [4:27:43, 4:27:44]: Please. [4:27:44, 4:27:48]: Are you going to talk louder if you want me to hear it? I'm glad you need to. [4:27:49, 4:27:50]: Um [4:27:51, 4:27:56]: There are gonna be trips. We were vo all of us was elected individually. [4:27:57, 4:28:03]: There are gonna be trips that some of us are gonna take and some of us are not gonna take. There are trips that [4:28:04, 4:28:06]: Some of my colleagues have taken, I haven't taken. [4:28:07, 4:28:12]: Oh we didn't it's it's after ten o'clock at night. We're sitting here worried about who went where. [4:28:12, 4:28:28]: And we just sitting here w y you know, we're going in circles because when we can sit here and talk about expanding money and spending money and then when it comes to training, we're talking nickels and nickels and dimes on training. It it's it's ridiculous to me. [4:28:28, 4:28:34]: We're gonna just have we're just gonna have trips that some people are gonna take that others won't take. [4:28:35, 4:28:42]: And whether they know about that or don't know about it, I just I ask that we go ahead and move move the meeting on because [4:28:43, 4:28:45]: I I think the resul the solution has been set forth. [4:28:46, 4:28:51]: Okay. Thank you. Mayor, I just have one final comment. We're gonna I'm gonna make a statement. [4:28:52, 4:28:56]: We're going back, one more question, and then we're gonna come back. [4:28:56, 4:28:57]: And we're gonna take a boat. [4:28:58, 4:29:00]: It is now ten twenty. [4:29:00, 4:29:01]: At night. [4:29:02, 4:29:05]: And do we have an executive session? [4:29:05, 4:29:06]: After this. [4:29:07, 4:29:07]: Um [4:29:08, 4:29:25]: These are things that should be discussed in house, in meetings. That's why your mayor asked the five council members up here when I first was elected to have a work session where we worked all these things out. [4:29:25, 4:29:30]: behind the scenes, together, jovially, working together. [4:29:30, 4:29:33]: Uh, this is not the place on television. [4:29:34, 4:29:50]: to be arguing about things like this. So I would like to ask you, let's finish this conversation and then when we go to our retreat, let's see if we can't come up with a better plan of action for how we're gonna work out some of these things in the future. [4:29:51, 4:30:11]: Thank you, Mr. Ms. Roppin. I just want, like you said, the public to know. My concern is not who, what, where. It's mainly if we're gonna say our budget, we're being good stewards, if we have a set amount, then that needs to be brought before every council member so that way we'll know [4:30:11, 4:30:31]: exactly where we are and I thank the mayor for listening and stating that she can get with the treasurer and the clerk to make sure that it happens so we won't have a conversation saying we're over budget. Thank you. Okay. What we're gonna do um um we're gonna start immediately and [4:30:31, 4:30:43]: Every month you'll get a sheet in your book that shows who traveled, who spent the money, and it'll be published in your book. Can we make that happen, Madam Clerk? Can we make that happen, Treasurer? Yes. [4:30:43, 4:30:49]: Okay. I just want to make super clear. We're sharing the entire list with everybody. [4:30:50, 4:30:50]: I mean [4:30:51, 4:31:11]: Is that what we're doing? I sort of make sure. Because like I said, when it goes voted early in the year to change the travel policy. At that point I had money. Now I don't. Vanessa and I are not in the position to say, Miss Robinson, you can't go anywhere. You can't take any more classes. I mean that's not I mean [4:31:12, 4:31:18]: And I and I will say this here it says that the budget is twelve thousand dollars. There's six guys here. [4:31:18, 4:31:27]: It's two thousand dollars a person. It that's just it hasn't been this contentious before. It's been that we worked it out. [4:31:27, 4:31:30]: Like that, because you were overlooked. So that's why. [4:31:31, 4:31:45]: So we are over budget, therefore this budget amendment and hopefully that will be the last one for the year on the travel and education insurance. And could you provide them a list if they don't already have one that they're asking for? [4:31:46, 4:32:01]: And we can go ahead and give them one up to date and then every month you'll carry that those balances forward and put a new version in their book. Sure. All right. We know what we're gonna do. All right, let's go back, Miss Scan. [4:32:01, 4:32:07]: You gotta make sure I mean, what I'm gonna record or show is what has been paid for. [4:32:07, 4:32:08]: Two days. [4:32:09, 4:32:24]: And each month you'll bring it forward. And then hers is a little different because she has things she's working on. So we just we're just keeping check. Yeah, a prime example is the June training, Savannah. It's we have to schedule that in March. [4:32:25, 4:32:28]: That's when we actually make the reservations in March. [4:32:28, 4:32:29]: Five. [4:32:29, 4:32:31]: It didn't happen until June. [4:32:31, 4:32:37]: But we have to do it in advance. And the training classes are paid immediately. [4:32:37, 4:32:41]: But the hotel is not paid until after it's actually you've actually gone and stayed. [4:32:43, 4:33:03]: Does everybody understand how how it operates? Okay. At this time we're going to go back to Ms. Gantt. Ms. Gantt is going to make um uh remove her amendment and start over with her amendment. Is that it? I would say just read the bottom amount of one of the columns. That way we have it recorded of what twenty seventeen [4:33:03, 4:33:14]: Um I would like to uh make a motion to [4:33:15, 4:33:27]: Um approved the twenty seventeen dash zero zero two budget amendment in the amount of five hundred and twelve thousand I mean five hundred and twelve thousand two hundred ninety four dollars. [4:33:27, 4:33:28]: Second. [4:33:28, 4:33:31]: We have a motion and we have a second. [4:33:31, 4:33:35]: Do we have um any discussion on budget? [4:33:35, 4:33:38]: Item number one, which was numbered [4:33:38, 4:33:58]: twenty seventeen dash zero zero two. Yes, one question, please. All right, Ms. Dallas. Mr. Blount made a very valid question that now he's forced to vote uh against the entire budget if he does not want to vote against one thing. So my contention is is is uh the same thing. I mean if you either [4:33:58, 4:34:07]: we we're voting against everything as a package. I have a problem with some of the individual items. So I mean all I can do now is vote against the budget, is that pretty much it? [4:34:10, 4:34:17]: You can vote against this amendment and if it fails you can make a m an amendment to go through it item by item. [4:34:18, 4:34:21]: All right, we have a motion on the floor. We have a second. [4:34:22, 4:34:24]: I need qualif I need clarification. [4:34:25, 4:34:29]: I thought the item that you did not want to vote for was the ten thousand dollars. [4:34:29, 4:34:32]: He's talking about something else. [4:34:32, 4:34:36]: He's talking about one uh in the in the first one. [4:34:36, 4:34:37]: Oh. [4:34:37, 4:34:51]: Okay, I'm sorry. All right. Let's go back and restate this motion. The motion was made uh to go forward with item number twenty seventeen dash zero zero two by Miss Gantt. We have a second by [4:34:52, 4:34:54]: It was by Mr Ford. [4:34:54, 4:34:57]: Um and now [4:34:57, 4:35:00]: Any further discussion? If not, I'm gonna call for the vote. [4:35:01, 4:35:02]: All in favour? [4:35:05, 4:35:05]: Okay. [4:35:06, 4:35:10]: Anyone opposed? Abstaining. Abstain. All right. [4:35:10, 4:35:17]: All right. Anyone want to make the motion regarding the amendment twenty seventeen dash zero zero three? [4:35:18, 4:35:18]: So moved. [4:35:19, 4:35:24]: I said. Motion by Mr. Gantt, I mean by Mr. Ford. Is there a second? [4:35:25, 4:35:25]: Thank you. [4:35:26, 4:35:28]: I have a second by Mr. Alexander. [4:35:29, 4:35:30]: Is there discussion? [4:35:31, 4:35:33]: No discussion. All in favor? [4:35:36, 4:35:37]: All in favour? [4:35:39, 4:35:39]: Four. [4:35:40, 4:35:42]: Anybody abstaining? [4:35:43, 4:35:46]: One abstaining here, Mr Blount. [4:35:47, 4:35:48]: And [4:35:52, 4:35:53]: So are we good? [4:35:54, 4:35:56]: Thanks so. All right. [4:35:56, 4:36:02]: Okay. Um I don't think there's any um [4:36:02, 4:36:15]: Due to the time I'm gonna ask that city council and mayor abstain from making further comments. Is that okay with everybody in lieu of the fact it's ten twenty five and we have to go to executive session? [4:36:16, 4:36:36]: I'm good. I'm good. All right. You good? I'm good. Okay. All right. Um and for those listening, if there's anyone still listening on T V, there are a lot of special events coming up and we encourage you to go online and find those. Thank you so much. We're immediately now we need to uh have a motion to go to accept [4:36:36, 4:36:37]: Executive session. [4:36:40, 4:36:46]: Mayor Neil, I move that we go into executive session for personnel, real estate and litigation. I need a second. [4:36:47, 4:36:47]: Second. [4:36:48, 4:36:49]: Uh any discussion? [4:36:52, 4:36:55]: If not, all in favor of executive session, please raise your hand. [4:36:56, 4:36:57]: Okay. [4:36:57, 4:36:59]: We're in executive session. Thank you. [4:37:29, 4:37:31]: [16652.3, 16654.6]: Because uh it's the sea. [4:37:35, 4:37:55]: Oh the night. So she might have to do it. She not downstairs. [4:37:55, 4:38:15]: [16695.0, 16715.0]: Yeah, space thing. So we're like this roll it like that. [4:38:51, 4:38:52]: We hear that. [4:38:54, 4:38:58]: We hate bank. [4:39:00, 4:39:05]: Who did it? Who did it? [4:39:08, 4:39:10]: Yeah, okay. [4:39:12, 4:39:15]: Well, [4:39:15, 4:39:17]: [16758.0, 16778.0]: Camilla, there's yours too. [4:39:38, 4:39:55]: [16795.0, 16815.0]: Yeah, I want to pull you there, but I see you on TV all the time. Doesn't work out. [4:40:15, 4:40:32]: So far, I can't do it for the you know. [4:40:33, 4:40:46]: Yeah, we're having that far into the scene. [4:40:47, 4:41:07]: Well that's it. Okay. [4:41:07, 4:41:12]: I don't think that one like that. [4:41:13, 4:41:20]: I think we're talking about it. [4:41:20, 4:41:25]: Oh, I have to say that. [4:41:40, 4:41:47]: [16941.8, 16951.9]: [4:43:16, 4:43:36]: [17016.5, 17021.2]: [4:43:43, 4:43:44]: Yeah. [4:43:56, 4:44:05]: Alright, we'll see how we are doing. Good night, John. Good night. [4:44:06, 4:44:10]: [17080.0, 17087.0]: Well, I'm not sure. [4:44:51, 4:44:52]: That's really good. [4:46:53, 4:46:56]: [17218.3, 17220.0]: Oh yeah, [5:08:31, 5:08:32]: have any [5:09:16, 5:09:29]: Maybe you actually have a forum and you can't be a form. We can continue. Okay. At this time I need a motion to end the executive session. Mayor, I'll make a motion to end executive session. [5:09:30, 5:09:30]: Certainly. [5:09:30, 5:09:34]: I have a motion and a second to end. Is there any discussion? [5:09:35, 5:09:39]: No discussion. Uh all in favor of ending the executive session? [5:09:40, 5:09:40]: Please vote. [5:09:42, 5:09:42]: Okay. [5:09:43, 5:09:46]: John, did you vote? Yes, ma'am. We have three. [5:09:47, 5:09:49]: Okay, at this time um [5:09:50, 5:09:54]: We ni I need a motion to end our meeting. [5:09:54, 5:09:57]: For the evening. [5:09:57, 5:09:58]: Definitely. [5:09:59, 5:10:03]: Okay, I have a motion and a second. [5:10:03, 5:10:09]: I made a motion to adjourn, yes ma'am. I mean reconvene, I apologize to reconvene. [5:10:10, 5:10:13]: We've got a motion and a second to reconvene. Any discussion? [5:10:16, 5:10:17]: No discussion. All in favor? [5:10:18, 5:10:29]: At this time we need a motion to adjourn the evening meeting. I make a motion to adjourn the evening's meeting. We have a motion to adjourn and we have a uh second by Mr. Blount. [5:10:30, 5:10:34]: Second by Mr. Blount. Okay. Any um discussion on that? [5:10:35, 5:10:37]: If not, the meeting is adjourned. [5:10:38, 5:10:39]: All in favour. [5:11:10, 5:11:11]: [18673.0, 18687.2]: Um I'm gonna I'm gonna keep my book. Now all the things gotta be back here before immediate ten o'clock. In the morning. Ten o'clock. Ten o'clock. Ten o'clock. All right. [5:11:29, 5:11:30]: [18695.7, 18699.1]: Yeah. Yeah, too much time but when I die, no. [5:11:40, 5:11:43]: [18705.2, 18707.0]: It was terrible when I died. [5:11:49, 5:11:49]: How do you think? [5:11:55, 5:12:00]: How about your boy? [5:12:09, 5:12:10]: Yeah. [5:12:28, 5:12:33]: All right, girl. I have to make sure I stay back clean until we get that hallway back there. [5:12:34, 5:12:37]: And I'll take them gatorys out there with [5:12:39, 5:12:44]: Yeah, I'm not going to move on that. [5:12:48, 5:12:49]: Yeah. [5:12:59, 5:13:00]: Uh [5:13:00, 5:13:02]: They walked a normal. [5:13:03, 5:13:05]: What do we get out of it? [5:13:06, 5:13:09]: I did. Yeah. I did. [5:13:10, 5:13:14]: Um how do you go check that in? [5:13:45, 5:13:48]: That boy ain't gonna stop. [5:13:52, 5:13:53]: Oh. [5:13:59, 5:14:02]: Yeah, yeah, that's fine. I appreciate that.