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    --- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2025-10-13 source: 2025-10-13_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:01:00, 0:01:05]: Yeah. Uh we we can find somebody to record, yeah. [0:01:05, 0:01:06]: Part of it too, bro. [0:01:08, 0:01:09]: Yeah it's it's a green light. [0:01:19, 0:01:25]: Come on up. Come on up. Are you coming on my side? All right. [0:01:30, 0:01:50]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we uh we have several different proclamations for a ceremonial portion of our meeting tonight. And I'm gonna start this uh evening off with a proclamation for Evan Oglesby, okay? Distinguished Service in Youth Empowerment. Whereas Evan Oglesby is an NFL veteran and alumnus of the University of North Alabama, whose professional career in [0:01:50, 0:02:05]: included the Baltimore Ravens and Dallas Cowboys. Whereas inspired by his own journey, he founded the Evan Oglesby Foundation, also known as the Evan Oglesby Charitable Foundation, to empower young people through sports, education, leadership, and wellness. [0:02:05, 0:02:09]: Teaching character and opening pathways to college and careers. [0:02:09, 0:02:29]: Whereas the foundation's mission is to be the playbook of opportunities, strengthening youth to achieve excellence in education and athletics and paving the way for future success. And whereas Evan Oglesby's sustained volunteerism and impact on youth were nationally recognized when he received the Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award. [0:02:29, 0:02:31]: in January twenty twenty four. [0:02:32, 0:02:52]: For community service. Congratulations to you, sir. Thank you. Whereas the Evan Oglesby Foundation is a partnership with the Golf for Change, chose the city of Stockbridge to host a pre-pre-mingle, excuse me, a pro-mingle after golf social on Saturday, September 20, 2025, with several professional athletes and celebrities. Mr. Oglesby mod mobilizes [0:02:52, 0:03:01]: athletes, business leaders, and supporters to raise funds and directly expand youth programs and resources. Now therefore our Anthony Sforbe Virtual Authority vesting me. [0:03:01, 0:03:08]: It's the mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of city council members Elton Alexander, Ilana Barber, Kyle Berry, Lakeisha Gantt and Afonso Thomas. [0:03:09, 0:03:11]: to hereby recognize and commend [0:03:11, 0:03:17]: Evan Oglesby for experimentary leadership, philanthropy, and unwavering dedication to empowering the youth. [0:03:18, 0:03:22]: A witness whereof I have here undo set my hand on thirteenth day of October year of our Lord. [0:03:23, 0:03:30]: Two thousand and twenty five and I signed a proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holliday. Congratulations, sir. [0:03:33, 0:03:53]: Now, since this is the first time this has happened, okay, what happens after we do this, we the floor is the honored. So the mic is on, sir. Whatever comments you want to make, it is yours. Go right right here, please. Oh man. All right. How long I have? As long as you won't. As long as I won't. Oh. Well, first of all, I want to thank God for giving me this opportunity. [0:03:53, 0:04:13]: This has been a big dream of mine to be able to give back. It started with my grandmother being a pillar in the community of helping serving. And I think that has kind of embedded in our family. The EO Foundation is an opportunity for anybody that has a dream to be able to come and find. [0:04:13, 0:04:33]: our resources how to get to their destination. And we want to be that hand in the back. Behind your key people that have been a major part. My sister, she's one of the board members. Uh Orson is a major supporter. He's a former NFL player. We kind of have that uniqueness about our organizations that we can get people in front of you. [0:04:32, 0:04:52]: youth that they really want to be a part of with that professional level. And my baby Shayla, this is uh she's been helping me pretty much put everything together. And um I'm just fortunate to be at this point with this. I never wanted to start to be the one to have to get recognized for my work. Um [0:04:52, 0:05:12]: I want to be recognized of how many lives I impact. And sports is my way to be able to do that easily. I love it. I have a major passion for it. And I'm just thankful that the city of Stockbridge has allowed me to come into this community and be able to help pour my resources here. So um now I'm here. [0:05:12, 0:05:30]: I'm willing to help serve you, Mayor. Okay, no problem. Whatever you have. Ariel, definitely wanna thank you for actually getting me to this point. And I mean, I just wanna be used and be used by God. So I appreciate you guys and this right here means a whole lot. So thank you. [0:05:33, 0:05:53]: Come on down here. We'll take uh we'll take some pictures here. Why don't you all come on down? Come on, come on down here. Probably right on this air probably be good. Okay. Uh you need to get next to'em. You know? I mean I I can stay on the end of the bottom. All right. Okay. Yeah, it's easy. Oh, okay. [0:05:53, 0:05:57]: [361.6, 364.4]: [0:06:07, 0:06:09]: Congratulations. [0:06:13, 0:06:25]: Fantastic. And yes, and we'll definitely utilize your services and all the efforts and things that you can do to help us out. So take your bank. [0:06:29, 0:06:30]: A yeah. [0:06:35, 0:06:42]: Okay, Ms. Barber. I was I was going to do the next one. [0:07:00, 0:07:04]: Okay. [0:07:07, 0:07:08]: I'll tell you what um [0:07:10, 0:07:14]: Several months, let's keep this going. What I have next a National Women's Small Business Month. [0:07:14, 0:07:15]: So [0:07:15, 0:07:21]: Lady entrepreneurs, please come on up. Lady lady entrepreneurs, business owners. [0:07:22, 0:07:25]: Yeah. [0:07:26, 0:07:26]: Michelle? [0:07:27, 0:07:28]: Come on up. [0:07:30, 0:07:32]: Matter of fact, Lisha, if you can come on this side, please. [0:07:32, 0:07:33]: Okay. All right. [0:07:36, 0:07:36]: Okay. [0:07:37, 0:07:46]: You want the rest of the lake? They're coming. They're coming. You want them on the side? No, uh we can mix it up a little bit. They can stay on the side. Okay, okay. Okay, that'll be fine. All right. [0:07:47, 0:08:07]: City proclamation for National Women's Small Business Month, whereas October is National Women's Small Business Month, which means it's time to recognize women-owned businesses everywhere, as well as the outstanding progress female entrepreneurs have made over the years. And where starting a small business is once considered an undertaking primarily for men, times have changed. [0:08:07, 0:08:27]: With over 11 million and growing women-owned small businesses in the United States, there's plenty of opportunities to get involved. And whereas in October 1988, President Ronald Reagan signed HR 5050, the Women's Business Ownership Act. This legislation increased federal support for women-owned businesses and made it easier for female entrepreneurs to get [0:08:27, 0:08:30]: [511.3, 531.3]: Before this bill was signed into law, some states require women to have a male family member or co-sign on their business loan applications. And whereas entrepreneurship is booming for women in the United States and various businesses sectors, women are making a significant impact in the professional service, healthcare, social services, educational services, and apparel and accessory. [0:08:51, 0:08:57]: industries industries. Now therefore I Anthony Sford by Virtual Authority Vest and Me as the mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:08:57, 0:09:02]: On behalf of city council members Elton, Alexander, Yolanda, Barber, Kyle Berry, Latisha Gann, Afonso Thomas. [0:09:02, 0:09:12]: You hereby proclaim October's National Women's Small Business Month, the great city of Stockbridge, and encourage you to make an a cons can consensus [0:09:13, 0:09:33]: Consensus, excuse me, consensus effort to patronize and promote businesses owned by women. A witness thereof I have into hereunto set my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the thirteenth day of October, year of our Lord, 2025, and signed a proclamation along with our third financial holiday. And congratulations, okay, to you. [0:09:33, 0:09:49]: And to you. And to you. Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations. Thank you. All right. Well, well, just go ahead first, go ahead and speak. Whatever, ladies, please. [0:09:51, 0:10:11]: So um thank you, the city of Stockbridge. I am um founder and president of Southern Crescent Women in Business. We're the leading organization for women-owned businesses in the Southern Crescent region. And we have several ladies with us today. So I'm gonna let them talk about their business really quickly. [0:10:13, 0:10:15]: Who is first? The floor is there. [0:10:16, 0:10:36]: Good evening everyone. My name is Tyranica Carter. I am the owner of Radiant Styles Jewelry Incorporated. Um I am so honored to be here this afternoon. Um being a woman in business was never anything on my radar. I was an elementary school teacher for 15 years, and if you know with any teachers, we had to find a way to supplement our income. And so [0:10:36, 0:10:56]: So the opportunity of entrepreneurship came about, and my business began to boom so much so that I was making more money than I was as a teacher with a master's degree. So here I am, 10 years now as a business entrepreneur, and it has opened many doors, more doors for me, especially through Southern Crescent Women in Business. And so now I also have my own coach. [0:10:56, 0:11:16]: Coaching business building coaching business where I help other entrepreneurs who are budding entrepreneurs find a way, get started, and figure out how to now turn their ideas and create it into the business that they want. I also am an MC and I do hosting and all that good stuff. So again, I appreciate the opportunity of being a business owner. [0:11:16, 0:11:21]: If you are thinking about it, have an idea, I say go for it because you never know where it's going to lead you to. [0:11:22, 0:11:24]: All right. [0:11:25, 0:11:27]: Yeah, yeah, we could. [0:11:27, 0:11:47]: Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Dr. Chichi. I am the uh CEO and the owner of Rejuvenate Integrative Health Awareness. Um the business is all about, you know, women who have men, women who have high blood pressure, type two diabetes, who are overweight, or in general you just want to learn how [0:11:47, 0:12:06]: how to eat healthy. That, you know, came about when I was diagnosed with high blood pressure. So I figured, you know, there's so many people out there taking medications and you want to get out of the medication and know how to heal yourself holistically. So check me out. I'm on social media at Chi Chi Health, Chi Chi Health. [0:12:10, 0:12:30]: Okay, yeah. Hello everyone. I'm Sean Kia Mahone. I am the owner of Kia Diddy Beauty and Brows located in Stockbridge, Georgia. And um I'm so honored to be here and be a part of Southern Crescent Women in Business. And um I'm located in Stockbridge, so [0:12:30, 0:12:41]: So if you ever need any beauty needs, I'm here to serve you and make women feel prettier and um just honored to be with the organization. [0:12:41, 0:12:48]: So so ladies just move on down here. We'll take some pictures down here. I think that's right, come on now. Come on now. [0:12:50, 0:12:55]: Okay, uh we are we this a good position is good? Okay. [0:13:09, 0:13:15]: Congratulations. Okay. [0:13:16, 0:13:36]: Oh okay. Um uh real quick uh Mr. Berry's phone uh picture please. You all wanna come on back up real quick? [0:13:35, 0:13:37]: Yeah, sure. Come on back up real quick. [0:13:41, 0:14:01]: Hey I'm Shayla. Hey Shayla, Councilman Beer. How are you doing? Or [0:14:01, 0:14:13]: Or Councilman Berry. Good to meet y'all tonight, man. Thank you. She's good. She says she's good. All right. All right. All right, thank you. [0:14:13, 0:14:15]: This is good. [0:14:24, 0:14:28]: Okay, all right, we didn't. All right. [0:14:29, 0:14:31]: All right. [0:14:45, 0:14:46]: Okay. [0:14:48, 0:14:48]: That's it. [0:14:49, 0:14:59]: The next proclamation I have is Fire Prevention Month. And I don't know if we have any firefighters here, but uh let me go through this process as well. Okay. [0:15:00, 0:15:13]: Recognition of Fire Prevention Month, whereas October is Fire Protection Month Prevention Month, whereas the goal for Fire Protect Prevention Month is to raise fire safety awareness, help protect homes and families. [0:15:13, 0:15:21]: Whereas in 1922, the National Fire Protection Association, NFPA, named the second week in October Fire Prevention Week. [0:15:21, 0:15:25]: In commemoration of the great Chicago fire in eighteen seventy one. [0:15:25, 0:15:36]: Today we celebrate Fire Prevention Week and month by spreading fire safety awareness and educating families, students, and communities across the United States with the help from our partners and local fire departments. [0:15:37, 0:15:57]: First Alert is a most trusted brand of fire and fire safety and is dedicated to protecting lives, moments, and encourages you to gather your family to discuss fire safety awareness. Whereas installing reliable protection and being proactive is important to help keep your loved ones safe from a fire or carbon monoxide emergencies. Almost three out of [0:15:57, 0:16:02]: out of every five home fire desks result from fires with no smoke alarms. [0:16:02, 0:16:12]: or no working smoke alarms. Carbon monoxide is the number one cause for accidental poisoning in the United States. Unintended uh cooking is the number one cause for home fires. [0:16:12, 0:16:15]: And the fire department responds to the fire every twenty three seconds in America. [0:16:16, 0:16:36]: Now, therefore, I, Anthony Sforr, by First Authority Invest in Me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. On behalf of uh City Council members Elton Alexandria, Lana Barber, Cowberry, Lukeesia Gantt and Afonso Thomas, who hereby proclaim October as Fire Prevention Month in Stockbridge, Georgia, and support educational efforts to spread awareness about smoke alarms and fire prevention. [0:16:36, 0:16:41]: our safety. In witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal city of Stockbridge, Georgia [0:16:41, 0:16:54]: On the thirteenth day of the year of my Lord, two thousand and twenty-five, and I signed a population loan on our cleric finesse a holiday. And here it is, ladies and gentlemen, as well. Okay? All right. [0:16:54, 0:16:57]: Okay, sure. The kids will be fine. [0:17:02, 0:17:04]: Come on, young folks. [0:17:06, 0:17:08]: I don't give it the one you pulled. [0:17:10, 0:17:27]: It looks like looks like you're uh looks like you're the oldest. So I'm gonna give this to you. All right. Everybody everybody come on in here, come on in here, come on, come on, come on, come on in here. Come on, come on. [0:17:28, 0:17:33]: Right? He's good? Okay, okay. [0:17:47, 0:17:48]: Yeah. Okay. [0:18:00, 0:18:08]: Well thank you, ladies and gentlemen, you know folks. So you keep that, that's yours. Okay? [0:18:16, 0:18:25]: Next proclamation deals with National First Responders Month. And uh I know our police officer are out there working doing some work. [0:18:26, 0:18:27]: Sorry. [0:18:29, 0:18:48]: Okay, all right. And uh I'm gonna read this and uh and what it is that uh Mr. Thomas, Afonso Thomas, uh council member initially started this and what his initiatives in the city. So let me read this here. Let me turn the council position gave. Okay, one officer is up, okay. [0:18:51, 0:18:53]: One of them okay? [0:18:58, 0:19:00]: Take care, sir. Appreciate you. Uh-huh. [0:19:08, 0:19:28]: Yeah, I would yeah, I was thinking that we might get more, but maybe not. But I would do Mr. Christmas, come on and join us, sir. Okay, no problem. All right. Come on here. All right, sir. Yeah, I'm doing well. Okay, good deal. National First Responders Month. Whereas October is designated National First Responders Month, the annual. [0:19:28, 0:19:32]: National First Responders Day taking place October 28, 2025. [0:19:32, 0:19:40]: Whereas this month and day are dedicated to recognizing the sacrifices and service of firefighters, police, EMTs, and other and other emergency personnel. [0:19:41, 0:19:47]: And there are various ways to show appreciation, such as sending thank you cards, donating to related charities. [0:19:47, 0:19:49]: Participate in community service projects. [0:19:49, 0:20:00]: Whereas emergencies require police, fire, and medical services can occur at any time, and the prompt response of these emergency responders is critical to the protection of life and the preservation of property. [0:20:01, 0:20:21]: During times of personal crisis, paramedics are one of the first to come in contact with citizens who need emergency services, and their appropriate response to each person's need is critical. Now, therefore, I am too forward, but Virginia Authority invested me as a mayor of City Stock Bridge, Georgian. On behalf of City Council members Elden, Alexander, Yolanda, Barber, John. [0:20:22, 0:20:34]: Kyle Berry, Lakeesia Gann, and Afonso Thomas do hereby recognize October as National First Responders Month and Great City of Stockbridge and encourage all to participate in community service projects and directly benefit first responders. [0:20:35, 0:20:55]: A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand great seal city star preach Georgia on thirteenth day, year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty five. Now signed the proclamation along with our Clerk Vanessa holiday. So I'm gonna hand this to you, but there is a there is something we have to change on that, okay? Appreciate you. And we'll take a picture, but actually you get we'll we'll take a picture first, okay, since you're ready to go. [0:20:55, 0:20:56]: Okay. [0:20:59, 0:21:01]: Thank you. [0:21:06, 0:21:22]: Thank you now the floor is yours if you have any comments you want to make. It's up to you. No, I'm honored to receive this on behalf of the police department. Okay. Thank you. And we there's there's something we have to do. Okay. No, no, no. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Good deal. Um [0:21:24, 0:21:26]: No yeah, that would be great, yeah. [0:21:26, 0:21:29]: Okay, we'll start with red wim ribbon week. [0:21:31, 0:21:32]: Could you come up please? [0:21:33, 0:21:37]: Okay. Well I need this to say how you can. [0:21:48, 0:21:55]: Thank you. Thank you for being here. Okay. All right. Hi. Cow cow cowberries. Okay. [0:21:57, 0:22:17]: State Proclamation Red Ribbon Week 2025, whereas substance misuse affects individuals, families, and communities across Henry County, the state of Georgia, and the nation. And whereas it is imperative that communities launch visible, unified prevention, education to eliminate and demand for drugs. [0:22:17, 0:22:37]: Offers citizens the opportunity to demonstrate their commitment to drug-free lifestyles, no use of illegal drugs, no illegal use of legal drugs. And whereas a national Red Ribbon campaign will be celebrated in every community in America during the Red Ribbon Week, October 23rd to 31st, and establish the theme as Life is a Puzzle Solved. [0:22:37, 0:22:57]: Drug-free. And whereas businesses, government, parents, law enforcement, media, medical institutions, religious institutions, schools, senior citizens, service organizations, youth will demonstrate their commitment to healthy, drug-free lifestyle by wearing displaying red ribbons during a week-long campaign. Now therefore, I Anthony Sforbe, our first authority Vesame, is a [0:22:57, 0:22:58]: the Mercy Starbucks Georgia. [0:22:58, 0:23:01]: On behalf of city council members [0:23:01, 0:23:21]: Elton Alexander, Ilana Barber, Kyle Berry, Luke Gannon, and Father Thomas do hereby proclaim the week of October 23rd, 31st as Red Ribbon Week in Star Trek, Georgia. And encourage all stakeholders to participate in the drug prevention education activities, not only during Red Ribbon Week, but also throughout the year, making [0:23:21, 0:23:40]: whole statements that we've been strongly committed to drug-free schools. A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand the great seal city stop race Georgia on the 13th day of October year by the Lord 2025 and I signed a proclamation along with a clerk Vanessa holiday and congratulations. [0:23:40, 0:23:48]: But listen, uh the floor is yours if you want to comment on the plan. [0:23:51, 0:24:11]: Thank you, Mayor Ford, and the City of Stockbridge for recognizing schools for Red Ribbon Week. It is an amazing week for us as we make students aware of the dangers of drugs and smoking and those various um things that we want them to stay away from. So we appreciate this and thank you so much for. [0:24:11, 0:24:14]: Absolutely. [0:24:15, 0:24:21]: Let's come on down here. We'll take some pictures now. Okay. Come on down. Okay. [0:24:22, 0:24:23]: I didn't say. [0:24:46, 0:24:50]: Okay, thank you. No problem. Absolutely. Absolutely. [0:24:51, 0:24:51]: Well [0:24:52, 0:24:54]: Great. Congratulations. [0:25:00, 0:25:04]: Rest of the one is about four. [0:25:06, 0:25:13]: Next proclamation is World Mental Health Day. I don't know if there's anybody here specifically to receive this, but I'll roll through the pro read through the proclamation. [0:25:14, 0:25:26]: World Mental Health Day, whereas the World Health Organization recognizes World Mental Health Day on October 10th every year and serves as a reminder that there is no health without mental health. [0:25:26, 0:25:46]: And whereas this year's campaign focuses on the urgent need to support mental health and psychological needs of people affected by humanitarian emergencies. And whereas crises such as natural disasters, conflicts, public health emergencies cause emotional distress, with one in five individuals experiencing a mental health condition, supporting the mental well. [0:25:46, 0:26:06]: Being of individuals during such crisis is not just important, it saves lives, gives people the strength to cope, the space to heal and to recover and rebuild, not only as individuals, but as communities. Whereas a World Mental Health Day is a chance to talk about mental health in general, how we need to look after it and how important it is to talk about. [0:26:06, 0:26:26]: About things and get help if you if you or someone you know is struggling. Stigma and discrimination continue to be a barrier to social inclusion and access to the right care. But we can all play our part in increasing awareness about which preventive mental health interventions work. Now, therefore, I Anthony's Ford by virtue. [0:26:26, 0:26:46]: Authority vests in me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. Now, on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Yelana Barber, Kyle, Berry, Lakesa Gantt, and Founders of Thomas Dude, hereby proclaimed October 10, 2025 as World Mental Health Day in the city of Stockbridge. It is essential for everyone, including government officials, health, and social care providers, school staff, and the community. [0:26:46, 0:27:06]: Community groups to come together by working hand in hand, we can ensure the most vulnerable have access to support they need while protecting the well-being of everyone. In the witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand in the Great Seal City of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the 13th day of October, year of our Lord, 2025, and signed the proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa. [0:27:06, 0:27:10]: Hollow ladies and gentlemen. Okay? All right. So [0:27:10, 0:27:13]: Come on now, we'll take a picture of this as well. [0:27:28, 0:27:31]: Thank you. All right. So this will go here. [0:27:37, 0:27:51]: This month's also breast cancer awareness month. I'm right now myself and the gentleman here and the ladies don't really have pink on right now, but pink is that color. So I'll read this, uh is anybody here to receive this, okay? [0:27:51, 0:27:58]: All right. So anyway, breast cancer awareness month. Whereas breast cancer is a most common type of cancer among women in the world. [0:27:58, 0:28:09]: a second leading cause of cancer death among women in the United States. More than one in eight women and one in eight hundred and thirty-three men in the United States will be diagnosed with breast cancer in their lifetimes. [0:28:09, 0:28:29]: Breast Cancer Awareness Month began in 1985 as a partnership between the American Cancer Society, Imperial Chemical Industries, Pharmaceuticals, AstroZeneca, and whereas we encourage all women and men to find out if they are at increased risk and to learn more about recommended screenings by speaking with the health care providers, early detention and treatment. [0:28:29, 0:28:49]: Can save lives. Whereas during breast cancer awareness month, we recognize the women and the men who courageously fight to survive, detect, treat, prevent, and support survivors as devastating disease. And if you are a breast cancer survivor, we have a recent diagnosis. October is a great time to be reminded not to be alone. Therefore, I Anthony Sforz. [0:28:49, 0:28:52]: by virtual authority less than me as a mayor city starbridge, Georgia. [0:28:52, 0:29:12]: Now, on behalf of City Council members, Elton Alzheimer, Ilana Barber, Kyle, Berry, Lakesa Gandhi, and Fonzo Thomas, do hereby proclaim October as Breast Cancer Awareness Month in the city of Stockbridge. And we encourage all to invite everyone to join us on Saturday, October 18th for the city's annual Pink Love Walk at Clark Park. And as we walk to support in remembrance of those impacted. [0:29:12, 0:29:32]: By breast cancer. A witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the 13th day of October, year of our Lord, 2025. And I signed a proclamation along with our clerk for Nessa Holiday. You know, ladies and gentlemen. Okay. All right. Come on in for uh eight. Oh sure. Oh sure. Sure. [0:29:33, 0:29:36]: As a matter of fact, I'll give this to you then. Yes. [0:29:39, 0:29:44]: Okay, I'll tell you what. No, she can take it, that's fine. Okay, yeah. [0:29:46, 0:29:51]: Matter of fact, I'm gonna tell you I'll tell you what, how about this? I'm gonna I'm gonna hand this to you and then the floor is yours. [0:29:52, 0:29:58]: If you want the floor, the floor is the I'm gonna hand it to you. Okay. So floor is yours if you have some comments. [0:29:59, 0:30:19]: Thank you for everyone who continuously and tirelessly work to educate and outreach to people who have who are living with and surviving breast cancer. It's becoming more prominent as we live longer, of course. But we are also truly grateful for the outreach and community support that each and every [0:30:19, 0:30:39]: Every year this community and this leadership continues to give members and people who are surviving and living with breast cancer. All right. No no no no no no. Yeah, come down and take a picture. You once spoke. Get in the middle. No, you're not going to be a good one. Okay, come on. [0:30:39, 0:30:44]: That's not fine, I've chased the fine. [0:30:49, 0:30:50]: Yeah. [0:30:55, 0:31:06]: All right. There are more one. Okay. So these are already done. Let me see. Okay. All right. [0:31:13, 0:31:22]: And for the last proclamation tonight, uh for domestic violence awareness month, uh I don't know if somebody here to receive this while I'll go through this process here. [0:31:23, 0:31:32]: Whereas October is annually recognized as National Domestic Violence Awareness Month, with all the national theme with survivors always, this month long observation observer [0:31:33, 0:31:35]: Absorbents. Absorbents, excuse me. [0:31:36, 0:31:56]: Aims at highlight the ongoing issues of domestic violence and rally community support for survivors and services they need. Whereas domestic violence is a pattern of abusive behavior that one intimate partner, current or former, uses to gain and maintain control over another. This abuse can occur in the form of physical, verbal, emotional, sexual, and economic control. [0:31:56, 0:32:13]: Batterers often use multiple tactics such as isolation, intimidation, sexual and physical assault, forced substance abuse, insults, threatening, and excessive monitoring to control and manipulate victims and survivors. Resident violence affects millions across the US, regardless of cultural background. [0:32:13, 0:32:33]: Ethnicity, sexual orientation, faith, socioeconomic status, ability, and educational background. This means it is very likely we know someone who is a victim or survivor, and someone who is an abuser. Whereas victims and survivors need comprehensive services, but more so genuine and non-judgmental support from friends, family, and community. [0:32:33, 0:32:46]: And whereas educational awareness are critical components of an effort to end domestic violence, please contact Haven House at 770-954-1008 or the Crisis Line at 770-088-088-088- [0:32:47, 0:32:57]: nine five four two nine screen me nine two two two nine for local help and assistance. Now don't now therefore I Anthony's for first authority invest in me as a mayor city of Scott Bridge, Georgia. [0:32:57, 0:33:17]: Now, on behalf of City Council members Elton Alzana, Alana, Barber Cow, Vera, Lakesa Gandhi, Afonso Thomas, we hereby proclaim October's domestic violence awareness month in the city of Stockbridge, and we call on citizens and communities to join the movement to end domestic violence. We must do our part to support victims and survivors and come together as a community to end this abusive behavior. [0:33:17, 0:33:31]: behavior. A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal city of Star Beach, Georgia, on the 13th day of October year of our Lord 2025, and I signed a proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holiday, ladies and gentlemen. Okay? All right. [0:33:45, 0:33:51]: Thank you. Thank you. All right. Now um Mr Collins, sir, I have um [0:33:52, 0:33:53]: This the sworn in? [0:33:56, 0:33:56]: Okay. [0:33:59, 0:34:04]: Um sorry. Okay, Mr. Collins, relax for a second, please. All right. Sorry about that. [0:34:07, 0:34:11]: Uh what time would you have here? Uh Gab okay. [0:34:11, 0:34:15]: We uh yeah, we got a little bit of time still. Okay. Good deal. All right. [0:34:18, 0:34:38]: We have a swearing in to do and Mr. Collins is going to sworn in so we have the right documentation for this. All right. All right. Out of curiosity, Mr. Collins, is this your entire family? [0:34:38, 0:34:58]: Okay. You realize that they can all come up if you want. I mean it's where you have to nice. We'll take a picture of it in definitely. Okay. Mr. Wells, how are you doing, sir? He's missing over there in the next few. He's reading. Okay. What's going on with you? You alright? [0:34:58, 0:35:01]: Yeah, no one's and know the one closer here, right? [0:35:02, 0:35:05]: We've got new uh central. [0:35:06, 0:35:10]: In twenty twenty one still setting up to the mountain one hard people. [0:35:13, 0:35:18]: Are you doing? I have already You here for the proclamation? [0:35:19, 0:35:25]: No, okay. I okay. Excuse me. I'm just just checking it. All right. [0:35:27, 0:35:31]: Yeah, we're doing all right. All right, it's a good deal. [0:35:33, 0:35:39]: Went to the Saints. It was nice, it was like, you know, it was like I wanted I wanted to see [0:35:40, 0:35:44]: What like to read Superbow? I've never been to a game yet super. [0:35:45, 0:35:52]: To see how things would go. Both things are dedicated. But there were more pictures. [0:35:53, 0:36:01]: And the deal the other young guy there may I mean maybe he sharp. [0:36:02, 0:36:19]: Right. Cool. We'd like to do that. Come on this up. So you you want uh I think that's your wife and you want your kids, who do you who you want up here with? He's strong. He might not be able to do it. Well definitely when we take a picture, okay. [0:36:19, 0:36:21]: If they're coming now I'll wait. [0:36:21, 0:36:23]: Come on up. [0:36:23, 0:36:24]: Come on, come on, come on. [0:36:25, 0:36:45]: Come come once come on this side over here? Come on this side, okay? On this side? This side? This side? Okay. All right. So what I want you to do is face me and I want to make sure to take pictures that the precipite in the background. Okay. Alright. Raise your right hand. I'll take this as follow me and I'll take some little small snippets, okay? Okay. I stick. [0:36:45, 0:36:49]: Well, I'm sorry? [0:36:49, 0:37:09]: Okay. Hi and state your name. I Tariq Collins. Board members? Board members. You solemnly swear and affirmed. You solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the duties of downtown development authority. Downtown development authority. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stark. And that I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend. [0:37:09, 0:37:29]: The charter thereof, as well as the Constitution and the laws and the laws of the State of Georgia, the State of Georgia, the United States of America. United States of America. I further affirm that. I further affirm that. Upon assumption of this office, upon assumption of this office, I do not hold any unaccounted for public money. Any unaccounted for public money. [0:37:29, 0:37:49]: Payable to the state, do or payable to the state, any political subdivision of the state, any political subdivision of the state, city of Stockbridge, City of Stockbridge, or any authority thereof, or any authority thereof, nor do I hold, nor do I hold any other office of trust, any other office of trust of the government, of the United States, of this state, of this state, or any foreign state, or any foreign. [0:37:49, 0:38:09]: As prescribed as prescribed by the law by the law state of Georgia of the State of Georgia. I solemnly affirm. That I fully quite qualified. That I'm fully qualified. Under the Constitution. Under the Constitution. Under the laws. And the laws of the state. Of the state. To hold the office. To hold the office. Of Downtown Development Authority Board Member. Of Downtown Development Authority. [0:38:09, 0:38:29]: authority board member. And that I will perform and that I will perform the duties of my office. The duties of my office in the best of my excuse me, in the best interest in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge. To the best of my ability to the best of my ability without fear. Without fear favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. Reward. Or expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. This is the thirteenth day of October twenty. [0:38:29, 0:38:31]: Twenty-five. Congratulations. [0:38:34, 0:38:45]: Now, welcome to the telephone calling you some great things together. Yes, sir. [0:38:50, 0:38:53]: [2339.1, 2359.1]: All right, and the floor is yours. So the mic's up there. Speech, speech, speech. Uh I just wanna say thank you to the board and city council member, the mayor, everybody that uh voted me in last month, and uh think my wife and kids and god kids and [0:39:19, 0:39:25]: uh for coming out and uh I'll do my best to serve the city of Stockbridge to the best of my ability. [0:39:27, 0:39:43]: Oh uh we got um we own an accounting firm over off Eagles Landing. So we service any business owners or individuals if you are looking for tech services or bookkeeping services. So just w reach out. Thank you. [0:39:48, 0:40:08]: Mr. Collins, officially welcome to the Downtown Development Authority. Appreciate it. We appreciate it. And we're gonna do some great things in downtown. Yes, sir. We rec we welcome frozen smoke, we rec welcome to Crown Pizza, ABA therapy, and several more. So certainly, this is the middle of the Stockbridge Renaissance. And when a business owner [0:40:08, 0:40:24]: Like yourself, who's the stakeholder in the community, steps up. We certainly appreciate that because you have many other choices and you have a busy schedule, but we understand the importance of moving this community forward and we're gonna do it together. [0:40:25, 0:40:44]: Yeah, we'll take a come on down here. Come on, family, come on down and take a good picture here. As the city council district representative of our downtown area, welcome, sir. And congratulations on your appointment. Um I look forward to all of the great work that you'll do with the rest of the members of the downtown development authority board. [0:40:45, 0:40:46]: But I want you to remember. [0:40:46, 0:40:48]: I represent this district. [0:40:49, 0:41:09]: I'm super excited about the revitalization efforts of our downtown. I want to remember all of the stakeholders that are affected by all of the decisions that are made in our downtown. So welcome. Welcome. All right. [0:41:08, 0:41:10]: Yeah very well? Okay. [0:41:22, 0:41:23]: Yep. [0:41:26, 0:41:46]: Congratulations. Okay. Sir by the way, here you go. This is uh this is also for you, sir. Okay, no problem. Congratulations to you. Congratulations to you too as well. Congratulations and well. Okay. Eager to work with you. Thank y'all. Thank you all. Thank you all. [0:41:46, 0:41:55]: Okay. Okay. Right, right. This is what this is the DDA for Okay. What this everyone here? DDA for C okay. [0:42:07, 0:42:09]: Yeah, it's [0:42:09, 0:42:24]: Okay. Okay. So we have um okay, I have six we'll get started here shortly, ladies and gentlemen. Uh yeah, uh what had happened is that uh Clerk is going to sign it for some. [0:42:30, 0:42:30]: Let's [0:47:35, 0:47:38]: I didn't see it. It's my brother's birthday. [0:47:39, 0:47:44]: Okay, how about this would you want to do an invocation on that? Okay. No. [0:47:46, 0:47:51]: That's what I want to be. [0:47:52, 0:48:11]: All right. All right. So I got I'm removing forward to executive session after executive session. I'm removing three altogether. And then I'm amending it and add the uh this would be on this session. Okay. Okay. [0:48:13, 0:48:14]: Are we [0:48:15, 0:48:17]: We we good now? Still good? All right. [0:48:22, 0:48:30]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have 606, so I'd like to call our council meeting for uh October 13th to order. [0:48:31, 0:48:34]: And please stand for the invocation, mister Berry, please. [0:48:35, 0:48:36]: That is great. [0:48:37, 0:48:57]: Eternal God, our Father, we thank you tonight again for allowing us to come together, Lord God, for the citizens and for the constituents of the city of Stockbridge. Lord God, we pray, Lord God, that you will cover us and watch over us and keep us protected from danger seen and unseen. Lord, we pray for all the federal employees, Lord God, who are, Lord God, without pay and compensation during this government. [0:48:57, 0:49:17]: Stoppage and we pray, Lord God, that their households will be covered and blessed. Then, Lord God, we pray if anyone in the city of Stockbridge is in need, Lord God, that you will supply each and every one of their needs according to your riches and glory. Now bret bless this meeting, bless all that are involved, and let us, Lord God, do the work that you've called us to do with perfection, with diligence, and doing everything possible, Lord God, to pray. [0:49:17, 0:49:35]: please you in all things that we do. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. Okay, do a pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag, the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:49:36, 0:49:38]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:49:42, 0:49:44]: Good evening. Evening. [0:49:44, 0:49:49]: Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Present. Councilmember Thomas. Present. [0:49:49, 0:49:53]: Let the record reflect Council Member Thomas is not in attendance. Councilmember Berry. [0:49:54, 0:50:00]: Present. Councilmember Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate it. [0:50:01, 0:50:05]: Uh Mayor Po Tim Gantt, I need a several different amendments to the agenda, please. [0:50:06, 0:50:10]: Um yes, Mayor, I I would like to make a motion to remove agenda public hearing. [0:50:11, 0:50:13]: Item number three. [0:50:14, 0:50:19]: And then also to remove item number four until after executive session. [0:50:20, 0:50:21]: Under new business. [0:50:22, 0:50:25]: And to amend the agenda to include [0:50:26, 0:50:29]: Under new business, a discussion. [0:50:29, 0:50:45]: Um for a vote to have a city event mortgage burning. The city event uh in regards to mortgage burning. Sir. Okay, I wanna at least mention that the public hearing item that's gonna be removed will be back at our uh city work session later on this month. [0:50:45, 0:50:46]: Yes, I'm sorry. [0:50:47, 0:50:51]: Okay. All in favor, please indicate. Mayor Ford. Uh yes, ma'am. Discussion, please. [0:50:51, 0:51:10]: Well let's let's go ahead and vote on this. I'd like to add one more item to the agenda. Well that's not discussion. That's that's an amendment. Okay. So so stand by the second. Hold on a second. No, we already got a motion. If you want to add something else, we'll do another motion to I wanted to ask Councilwoman Gann if she would add an item to the agenda. [0:51:11, 0:51:17]: Since I didn't know about all the others, I would have spoken to her prior, but since those amendments are coming to the council now. [0:51:18, 0:51:32]: There's one additional stuff I wanna add. Let's vote on this and then we'll we'll we'll we'll do that. Okay? We'll vote on what d we've made a motion, made a second. We can come forward any additional amendment items just a second. We'll we'll do that. All right? Well if we're all ready. [0:51:32, 0:51:34]: Amending the agenda. [0:51:34, 0:51:36]: And several items. [0:51:36, 0:51:41]: are in this motion that she made, why not add one additional item? [0:51:42, 0:51:46]: To her motion to amend the agenda. All right, tell you what. [0:51:46, 0:51:53]: That is w what that is up to her. She made the most that's up to her. Okay, so that's why I was asking her, but you interjected. All right, go ahead. [0:51:54, 0:52:02]: Go ahead. Council Councilwoman Gantt, would you add another item to the agenda for the presentation of the budget amendment? [0:52:02, 0:52:07]: That Mr. Malazi has said that he was going to present at this meeting. [0:52:08, 0:52:10]: I think he's prepared for that. [0:52:11, 0:52:13]: Mr. Malazi, are you prepared for that today? [0:52:13, 0:52:15]: No, there's no regular meaning. [0:52:15, 0:52:19]: Okay, there you have it. You're not prepared to present your budget amendment? [0:52:19, 0:52:22]: Okay. All right. So motion's been made in second. Okay. [0:52:22, 0:52:25]: And motion has been made in second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:52:25, 0:52:30]: Okay, you now have to say no. Appreciate that. Okay. So on that note, um [0:52:31, 0:52:36]: What we had earlier today, ladies and gentlemen, before the meeting we had a ceremonial review. I wanna let you know that um [0:52:37, 0:52:57]: We want to continue to support and recognize the diversity and the differences of our citizens within our community and make sure we honor them and welcome everybody in this aspect as well. And so I say that to let you know that no matter what the federal government does in reference to DEI type programs of recognition, we here at the City of Stockbridges will recognize [0:52:57, 0:53:06]: Our citizens and once again the diversity that we have in our community. So, on the that note, uh Red Women Week, we had a proclamation on that. [0:53:06, 0:53:07]: Fire Prevention Month. [0:53:08, 0:53:10]: Uh breast cancer awareness month. [0:53:10, 0:53:30]: Mental Health Awareness Month, Women's Small Business Month, and several ladies who received that and spoke about the particular businesses, domestic violence, prevention awareness with a month, and also worst first responders month. And I swore in a new DDA member, Tyreek Collins, was sworn in this this evening as well. So I want to let you know that. And Madam Clerk, do we have any [0:53:30, 0:53:31]: Public comments at all. [0:53:31, 0:53:40]: We do, Mayor, but if you don't mind, we need to adopt the agenda as amended. Oh you know what? Thank you very much. That's why you're the clerk. Okay. I need a motion to adopt the rest of the agenda, please. [0:53:40, 0:53:41]: What was [0:53:41, 0:53:45]: No no we'd only we've made some change. We gotta adopt the reason. [0:53:46, 0:53:53]: No, we but we already made the m the amendments were already approved. We got em she's right. We have to make a motion. There's no motion to accept the rest of the agenda. [0:53:54, 0:53:58]: Someone make a motion, please. So moved. Okay, is there a second? Okay, Mr. All in favor, please indicate. [0:53:59, 0:54:01]: Okay, so now she says okay now. Thank you madam for [0:54:02, 0:54:08]: I I got ahead of myself in a sense. Okay, thank you very much. All right. Public comments. Uh we have a couple public comments at all? [0:54:08, 0:54:09]: We do Mayor. [0:54:09, 0:54:29]: Okay. Mr. Willie Turner. I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor Turner. Mayor, point of order. What's that? I want to make sure that there's no campaigning up here. There's no mention of running for public office or anything that is not appropriate. Okay, hold on, hold on. Hold on. Let's do this. Let's do it. Hold on a second. Stand by, stand by. Public comments. All persons wishing to speak and for public comments must sign in the city clerk prior to beginning. [0:54:29, 0:54:49]: Beginning of the meeting. You must sign your name, address, and phone numbers. You will be able to address the mayor and council for three minutes. Speakers must respect all members of the elected body, officials, and staff. Definition of unruliness and/or swearing would not be tolerated by a meeting in the session. And of course, it's uh I would think you need to keep on the subject and topics here appropriate to the city itself. [0:54:49, 0:54:55]: All right, so on that note, uh first uh individual to uh give us comments, name and address please. [0:54:58, 0:55:05]: Yes, my name is Willie Carter, 123 Wilson Avenue. Okay. Good evening, Mayor, Council, and Stockbridge residence. [0:55:07, 0:55:24]: We all have been aware of the mismanagement of funds in the fiscal year of twenty twenty-four, alone requiring a budget amendment of thirty-two point nine million. That is unacceptable and cannot continue going forward as the city sets the new budget. [0:55:26, 0:55:28]: This city council needs to be more responsible. [0:55:31, 0:55:33]: We're taking care of the services. [0:55:34, 0:55:38]: That should be provided to the residents and the business of this city. [0:55:40, 0:55:45]: Three years with this amphitheater, every single year. [0:55:47, 0:55:50]: It has spent millions of dollars over budget. [0:55:51, 0:55:54]: In twenty twenty five has been added to that. [0:55:56, 0:56:00]: At some point, this council needs to pivot. [0:56:02, 0:56:02]: And why is that? [0:56:05, 0:56:12]: Let's get it right for twenty-six by bringing in a company to manage the amphitheater and take on the expenses. [0:56:15, 0:56:19]: We simply cannot afford to continue to do this internally. [0:56:21, 0:56:24]: Also, the city council has failed. [0:56:26, 0:56:30]: To respond to the recommendations from the city's ethnic board. [0:56:32, 0:56:44]: to have an independent third party to review the city's finances from the complaint that Councilman Barber has filed. Not one word has come from this council. [0:56:47, 0:56:54]: I have come to the city council for years now and just didn't show up at election time. [0:56:56, 0:57:07]: To get improvements in the Tigh Street area and legacy community after numerous phone calls and emails and meetings with Councilman Thomas and Mr. Aaron. [0:57:08, 0:57:14]: We finally got six million approved to do the work while having this project started. [0:57:15, 0:57:25]: I'm currently waiting on, after the meeting with Mr. Edmonds, the manager and the Public Works Director, Ms. Aaron, to provide an update on this project. Thank you. [0:57:26, 0:57:29]: Uh thank you. All right, uh who's next? Ms. Holliday? [0:57:40, 0:57:41]: Mr. Turner. [0:57:45, 0:57:46]: Name and address please. [0:57:50, 0:58:02]: Mr. Turner two five four warbler away. This is business not personal. The City of Stockbridge General Fund concluded its eighth month of two thousand twenty five fiscal year as of August thirty first, twenty twenty five. [0:58:04, 0:58:24]: Operations with$14,299,000 of revenues, which is 49% of the budget amount. General fund revenues were estimated to bring in$29,239,000 for the year, but only collected$14,299,000 at the end of the year of August of 2025. On the other hand,$14,500,000. [0:58:24, 0:58:44]: $122,000 of expenses were incurred, representing 50% of the budget amount during the same time. Budget amendment will be needed before the end of October 25 to address and eliminate unbudgeted spending that does not have council approval. Budget amendment will also address the need to have general fund remain in balance all at the same time. [0:58:44, 0:59:04]: The City of Stockbridge Amphitheater at the bridge had budgeted to receive$2.6 million in revenues in fiscal year of 2025. Instead, only$1 million has been received by the end of August 2025, representing 41% of budget amount.$2.6 million was budgeted for corresponding expenses, but instead,$3 million,664,000. [0:59:03, 0:59:23]: four thousand dollars was spent by the end of August 2025, and yet we just added another free event. All the unbudgeted spending above the revenues will be transferred from general fund to make up for the revenue shortage. Again, another year taking money out of the general fund account to fund entertainment. I had a chance to sit in the twenty twenty six budget meeting to hear some deposits. [0:59:23, 0:59:43]: Department's wish list. During this meeting, I noticed that we're still using Harold Young's team to run the operation of the amphitheater. Not only are we using his team, we are promoting members of his team to run the amphitheater again next year. Why? The amphitheater has gone over budget by millions of dollars every single year on the taxpayers' expenses under Harold Young and [0:59:43, 1:00:03]: And his team for years. The data and numbers prove this. Why aren't we bidding this position out to our entertainment management company? Why are we utilizing our own ordinance when it pertains to procurement? Why would our own city attorney create an affidavit to disclose what the taxpayers pay the artists who are performing? Again, our city attorney created an affidavit. [1:00:03, 1:00:17]: David into which the taxpayers cannot see the c actual number amount these artists are being paid. Further, why would our city attorney be sitting at a VIP table at a concert at the amphitheater with Harold Young if Harold Young has stated publicly that [1:00:17, 1:00:18]: So the making melody [1:00:18, 1:00:38]: That he will be seeking legal counsel after his after his dismissal of breach of contract. Would that be a conflict of interest to have Harold Young sitting at a VIP table and backstage taking pictures at a tax funded facility if he has publicly stated he is seeking legal counsel for his dismissal from our governing body? You all can see continue to say. [1:00:38, 1:00:55]: that the amphitheater is not for profit and an economic driver, but yet you transferred city owned property that's directly across the street from a brand new multi million dollar amphitheater to the DDA and to which the DDA sold to a private investor with no appraisal and below tax assessed value. Thank you. [1:00:58, 1:00:58]: Alright, um [1:01:00, 1:01:06]: On that note Did I get more time? No. Oh any more time? I no, you don't well [1:01:07, 1:01:09]: Anymore? No. No. [1:01:10, 1:01:20]: Okay. The answer's uh well. Yep, no problem. No more time, sir. Appreciate you. All right. Uh Kyle so d Okay, got one more. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Who's next? [1:01:21, 1:01:22]: Mr. Peter Friedrich. [1:01:26, 1:01:27]: Name and address, please, sir. [1:01:29, 1:01:32]: Thirty four fifty Cameron Parkway. My name is Peter Friedrich. [1:01:33, 1:01:53]: Doctor uh Martin Luther King Sr. was born here in Stockbridge in eighteen ninety-nine. And when he was a boy, his his mother Delia brought him to Floyd Chapel Baptist Church, the wooden church that stood where the current building is now. That's where he was ordained, where he preached his first sermon as a uh as a young man, just about a five minute walk from these chambers. [1:01:53, 1:02:13]: He became a preacher because he saw ministers willing to speak truth to power on racial injustice, even when it was dangerous. Georgia State Senate Bill 375 makes speaking truth dangerous again. This bill is not about protecting against bigotry. Georgia law already does that. SB 375 is a [1:02:13, 1:02:20]: About one thing, giving India's government legal weapons to silence Americans who criticized our policies. [1:02:20, 1:02:24]: How does it work? By weaponizing a word, Hindu phobia. [1:02:24, 1:02:44]: The bill treats criticism of Hindu nationalism, a political movement running India's government, the same as hatred of Hindu people. Those are not the same thing. But once Georgia's law conflates them, anyone discussing India's treatment of minorities risks being sued for bigotry. Political criticism becomes legally. [1:02:44, 1:03:03]: Actionable. Now here's what it looks like. A Stockbridge teacher assigns students to research religious freedom globally. A student writes about India. Parents connected to Hindu nationalist organizations complain that the assignment promotes Hindu phobia. The teacher faces legal threats. The school district pulls the curriculum. [1:03:04, 1:03:10]: Why does India's government want this? Because they've already tried harder methods. [1:03:10, 1:03:30]: This report documents how federal prosecutors are charging an Indian government operative while plotting with plotting murder of an American Sikh activist on US soil. Murder of an American in America for criticizing India's government. His trial starts next month. When assassin when assassination fails, they will [1:03:30, 1:03:50]: They want lawsuits instead. Martin Luther King Sr. left Stockbridge for Atlanta. He became a civil rights leader. He taught his son to speak truth to power without fear. SP 375 turns that principle upside down. It uses civil rights law, the kind MLK Sr. fought for, to protect powerful governments from criticism. [1:03:50, 1:03:50]: Yeah. [1:03:51, 1:04:11]: The city can take three actions. One, pass a resolution opposing SB 375. Say clearly that Stockbridge protects free speech, not foreign governments. Two, send it to your state legislators, tell them that Martin Luther King Sr. was born in this city and we won't let his legacy be twisted. Three, make a public statement. [1:04:11, 1:04:31]: Georgia law protects people from hatred. It must never protect political movements from criticism. Martin Luther King Sr. preached his first sermon in Stockwridge because he believed ministers should stand up for what is right, even when powerful people wanted silence. SB 375 is about enforcing silence. [1:04:31, 1:04:41]: Stockbridge should stand against it. And I'm leaving this documentation with the council. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. So leave it to leave it to the clerk, put the clerk, sir, that way. [1:04:42, 1:04:46]: Thank you. Okay, any anybody else, Madam Clerk? No additional comments, Mayor. Thank you. [1:04:48, 1:04:58]: All right, council, I need the well let's see here. Adoption of the minutes. The approval of the minutes from September eighth, twenty twenty five, and the work session session minutes of September third, twenty twenty five. A motion to approve those, please. [1:04:58, 1:05:18]: So moved. Is there a second? For Miss Barber to Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. Okay, thank you very much. And we have open to see Council of Consideration approved the annual contract RFP 2025-004 for on-call sidewalk repairs and replacement to CGS LLC in the amount of$300,000. [1:05:18, 1:05:36]: thousand dollars funding from uh splot six a contract to begin one uh january twenty twenty six mr aaron please yes mr mayor i'm sorry mr aaron mayor forward yes go ahead please um i'm gonna ask that we table this again i've spoken with um mr malazi [1:05:36, 1:05:39]: Um there's some things that need to be reviewed. [1:05:40, 1:05:42]: Uh prior to bringing this forward. [1:05:43, 1:05:55]: All right, so you wanna you wanna make a mo motion to I wanna make a motion to table this. Okay, one second folks. Okay, she's making a motion to table this. Is there a second to the motion? I wanna make a motion to table this until our September thirtieth work session. [1:05:56, 1:06:16]: Is there a m is there a second to the motion? Let me the discussion. I wanna know the issue. There was a motion made. She made a a motion. Right. I wanna know what it is that is causing the delay because [1:06:16, 1:06:26]: It seems we had this here before. It's back again. Why wasn't it taken care of in the meantime? Because we don't have our sidewalk [1:06:26, 1:06:27]: Um [1:06:27, 1:06:30]: You know, this is delaying progress on [1:06:30, 1:06:40]: Projects like broken sidewalks on Hudson Bridge Road that I've been trying to get fixed for six months. So what is it that we cannot resolve tonight or can it be resolved tonight? [1:06:41, 1:06:44]: Before our circuit. [1:06:45, 1:07:01]: Um there is a review in the policy that I am asking Mr. Malazzi to take a look at. Um staff should be aware of some of the policy changes that were implemented, I don't know, two, three years ago. [1:07:01, 1:07:05]: We're without a purchasing manager right now since the summer. [1:07:05, 1:07:06]: So [1:07:06, 1:07:10]: This is one of those RPs that were issued over the summer. [1:07:12, 1:07:21]: when we are without a purchasing manager. Mr. Malazzi's time has been spent on um the financials of our city, but there is a [1:07:22, 1:07:24]: [4044.8, 4048.0]: that I ask him to please look at again. [1:07:28, 1:07:32]: And that specific portion of the policy is the selection committee. [1:07:32, 1:07:35]: Mr. Aaron knows exactly where I'm going with this. [1:07:35, 1:07:37]: In the policy [1:07:37, 1:07:43]: There are supposed to be five council members five members of the evaluation committee. [1:07:44, 1:07:47]: Two of those members of the evaluation committee. [1:07:47, 1:07:53]: can be from the user department in which the RFP is for. [1:07:54, 1:07:55]: In this case [1:07:55, 1:07:57]: There were six. [1:07:57, 1:07:59]: members of the evaluation committee. [1:08:00, 1:08:03]: Four of those members were from public works. [1:08:04, 1:08:06]: I've spoken with Mr. Malazi. [1:08:07, 1:08:14]: He wants to take this back to his team to review this again so that we are following. [1:08:14, 1:08:18]: All the rules and policies that have been put in place. [1:08:19, 1:08:20]: Mr. Aaron is aware. [1:08:21, 1:08:24]: He's aware of the policy. Mr. Edmondson is aware of the policy. [1:08:25, 1:08:28]: This is the second meeting in a row. [1:08:28, 1:08:29]: That I brought this forward. [1:08:30, 1:08:31]: So let me just say this. [1:08:32, 1:08:34]: And I've said this since twenty twenty. [1:08:36, 1:08:39]: My professional background is in procurement. [1:08:40, 1:08:44]: I have experience in both the public sector and private sector. [1:08:45, 1:08:49]: I know the processes back and forth. I want to make sure. [1:08:50, 1:08:53]: When these contract awards are being presented to the council. [1:08:53, 1:08:54]: That they are [1:08:55, 1:08:55]: Fair. [1:08:56, 1:09:02]: That they are transparent, that we are following our processes and procedures. [1:09:03, 1:09:04]: Before they come here. [1:09:05, 1:09:09]: I've been saying the same thing since I've been here. I said the same thing last meeting. [1:09:10, 1:09:15]: So I understand that the projects are being delayed. It's no fault to my own. [1:09:15, 1:09:25]: What I'm asking is allow staff the time to go back and correct it to make sure that we are being fair in our assessments. [1:09:26, 1:09:35]: That's all I'm asking for. So please allow staff to table this and bring it back during our work session in Sept [1:09:35, 1:09:36]: In October. [1:09:36, 1:09:39]: Uh Sean, Mr. Edmondson, please come to the mic, please, as well. [1:09:40, 1:09:51]: No, I need for Mr. Malazi to send to this. This is his department. If Mr. Edmondson knew, he wouldn't have allowed his staff to add this item to the agenda. [1:09:51, 1:09:52]: Okay. [1:09:53, 1:10:13]: We we we mayor point order. What's the point order, sir? We we just we're in paralysis right now. Every time a contract comes forward, we end up in minutiae going through every detail, micromanaging the staff, when there's a process in place. Now there's a process that's been outlined already, and it's in the book. [1:10:13, 1:10:33]: Book. Now, one council member can't change the policy. One council member can't ask staff to do anything. The city manager has to ask the staff to the police. That's why it calls city manager to police. So the city manager for the council member to sit up here and say they asked the card the treasurer to do something particularly, that's inappropriate. The city manager should have made it. [1:10:33, 1:10:38]: Understand, understand. Mr Mr. Edmondson. [1:10:39, 1:10:59]: I checked with the Councilman Barber to say this is the the second time this one is coming in now. So I would prefer if this one was to go through then he we will look into that policy because that policy I was not aware of yet. So because it's coming for second time, let it pass [1:10:59, 1:11:03]: then we take note of what will be there because it already passed through. [1:11:04, 1:11:10]: Okay, because it's coming for the second time. We had this one last meeting. [1:11:11, 1:11:15]: And the we discussed with the Mr. Ellen. [1:11:16, 1:11:16]: Okay. [1:11:16, 1:11:22]: So my recommendation depending on what you say, but I would request this one to pass through. [1:11:24, 1:11:25]: Ms. Edmundson, sir. [1:11:26, 1:11:46]: Um, yeah, so the last time this item was on the agenda, it was my understanding that the reason why we had some apprehension is because the breakdown sheet was not on there, which I I completely agree, uh, to which we comply and we did the breakdown and made sure that information is in there. But this is the first time we hearing that how this was created. [1:11:46, 1:12:06]: Is outside of policy. So this is the first time me hearing that. And if there is a policy dealing specifically with this particular procurement thing, then I would like to know more about it. But this is the first time me hearing about it. That is a policy violation, which is the issue that's on the table versus the spreadsheet that was requested from the last time. [1:12:06, 1:12:09]: 'Cause had I known that, I would have made sure that we [1:12:09, 1:12:16]: We took those measures, but my understanding was the apprehensions is because we didn't have the breakdown sheet. [1:12:16, 1:12:27]: All right, so the city city manager, the staff obviously reports directly to you. So uh by knowing all this information, what kind of recommendation do you have at this point? Do you have one? [1:12:27, 1:12:47]: Well, I mean, of course, if there's a policy, we're not gonna intentionally violate a policy. So if we're saying that that's a policy that's out there that doesn't align with this particular item, then of course we have to table it and and and and make a decision from that point. But my understanding that this particular item been out here for quite some time and now it's kinda [1:12:47, 1:13:07]: coming back to really, you know, get the ball rolling on that. So if that's not the case, uh then we we definitely need to talk more about it. But it's just my understanding, that was the only issue was the fact that we didn't have the actual breakdown um which we have provided um to to move this item forward. Yes sir. Let me just say this. [1:13:07, 1:13:27]: Now, what was stated that Mr. What was stated up here was Mr. Malazzi wanted it not to go through. Mr. Malazzi just said out of his own statement that this should pass through and we should move forward with this. This is the second time tonight we've heard something that was stated for staff that not simply wasn't. [1:13:27, 1:13:33]: Accurate. So the statement that was made that was requested, and again [1:13:33, 1:13:52]: We have sidewalks out there right now that that we can't deal with because we keep going through these things over and over again. The city manager made the case. If what was brought and all of us agree, we tabled it specifically because the cost sheet was not attached. The cost sheet is attached. [1:13:53, 1:14:13]: The the public works managers up here recommending that it pass. The treasurers recommended that it pass, and the funding is absolutely there. It's the same process that we've been following along for years to make sure that using a committee form, right, that was done. So certainly there there shouldn't be any more delays in getting this. [1:14:13, 1:14:33]: This done and then as has been stated, the policy uh can be reviewed and looked at and to see whether or not there are some issues. But right now we don't even know whether there's an issue or not because the city manager just heard about it for the first time and uh the treasurer says to pass it through. So [1:14:33, 1:14:50]: Based on that particular issue, we had a motion on the floor. It wasn't there was no second. There was no second. I'm going to make a motion to move forward with the recommendation that was made for staff so we can get somebody out there to fix the sidewalks in the city of Stockbridge. Is there a second to that motion? [1:14:52, 1:14:58]: Is there a second to that motion? Therefore, my hand. Stand by stand by a second. Is there I'm asking, is there a second? [1:14:58, 1:15:03]: My hand is raised. Okay. [1:15:03, 1:15:09]: Please acknowledge my hand, sir, so that I can go go ahead with go ahead. Thank you, sir. You're more than welcome. Have at it. [1:15:09, 1:15:20]: This is not the first time that I brought this up. I brought it up last meeting. You weren't listening to me. Um there were actually two items. Um [1:15:21, 1:15:23]: That Mr. Aaron was presenting. [1:15:23, 1:15:27]: Both of those items, the cost proposals were missing. [1:15:28, 1:15:31]: I even mentioned on one of those items. [1:15:32, 1:15:34]: He knows. I mentioned. [1:15:34, 1:15:35]: That [1:15:36, 1:15:40]: I see the list of evaluators for that particular um [1:15:41, 1:15:45]: award or renewal, whatever it was, I told him. [1:15:45, 1:15:47]: I mentioned it during the last meeting. [1:15:48, 1:15:51]: I'm sure it's in the meeting minutes or it should be. [1:15:51, 1:15:53]: You can go back and watch the meeting minutes. [1:15:54, 1:15:55]: Since I've been here [1:15:56, 1:15:57]: Um [1:15:57, 1:16:02]: I've used procurement as my guide to understand the operations of our city. [1:16:03, 1:16:04]: From day one. [1:16:05, 1:16:21]: There were a series of um amendments to the procurement policies, um, some in which the city's attorney uh recommended back in 2023, I believe, and then there were some I recommended. [1:16:22, 1:16:23]: The same meeting. [1:16:23, 1:16:24]: They're all approved. [1:16:25, 1:16:26]: So [1:16:26, 1:16:30]: Based on those new amendments to the policies. [1:16:30, 1:16:34]: In which one of them that I recommended that was approved. [1:16:34, 1:16:38]: was ensuring that we have a fair selection committee. [1:16:38, 1:16:42]: Making sure that the selection committee comprised of [1:16:42, 1:16:43]: Five members. [1:16:44, 1:16:45]: Only two of them were [1:16:46, 1:16:57]: Two of them from the department in which the RFP or the services are supposed to be issued for, only two members from that department can serve. [1:16:57, 1:17:00]: The other three members have to be [1:17:00, 1:17:02]: other departments of the city. [1:17:02, 1:17:04]: To make sure that we're being fair. [1:17:05, 1:17:07]: And what we're doing here. [1:17:07, 1:17:08]: To see this [1:17:09, 1:17:09]: Um [1:17:10, 1:17:11]: This proposal [1:17:12, 1:17:13]: Or this RP [1:17:14, 1:17:16]: And the one from the last meeting. [1:17:16, 1:17:18]: have the same exact issue. [1:17:19, 1:17:20]: That's an issue for me. [1:17:21, 1:17:26]: I started out when the mayor called Mr. Aaron up to the podium. [1:17:26, 1:17:27]: By making emotion [1:17:28, 1:17:29]: To table this, [1:17:29, 1:17:30]: So that Mr Mulazi [1:17:31, 1:17:32]: Can get with his staff. [1:17:33, 1:17:35]: We've been without a procurement manager. [1:17:35, 1:17:36]: For a while. [1:17:37, 1:17:41]: I know that this selection committee's recommendation. [1:17:42, 1:17:44]: came back in May or June. [1:17:45, 1:17:46]: Whenever. [1:17:46, 1:17:48]: So now that it's coming to us. [1:17:49, 1:17:52]: I'm saying the same thing that I said the last meeting. [1:17:53, 1:17:57]: If you're frustrated by hearing me speak about these procurement matters. [1:17:58, 1:18:00]: Think of how frustrated I am. [1:18:00, 1:18:03]: 'Cause every time there's an item on the agenda [1:18:03, 1:18:12]: Requesting council's consideration to approve the award or renewal or extension of a contract you best believe. [1:18:13, 1:18:16]: I'm going to be looking at it very closely. [1:18:17, 1:18:19]: I want all of the supporting documents. [1:18:19, 1:18:21]: I shouldn't have to ask for it. [1:18:21, 1:18:23]: It should be presented to us. [1:18:24, 1:18:29]: The reason why I wanna see all of the supporting documents, because I wanna see [1:18:29, 1:18:40]: The same documents that staff and whoever was a part of the selection committee, I wanna see what they used to justify their recommendation. [1:18:41, 1:18:45]: So when you withhold information or you don't include all the information. [1:18:46, 1:18:48]: I am left to just [1:18:49, 1:18:50]: Try to figure it out. [1:18:50, 1:18:54]: how you came up with your justification for recommending it. [1:18:54, 1:18:55]: And I don't like that. [1:18:56, 1:18:57]: So all I'm asking just [1:18:57, 1:19:01]: Give me all the information. And when you do the presentation, [1:19:01, 1:19:05]: Share your thoughts about why you're recommending. [1:19:05, 1:19:06]: This award [1:19:07, 1:19:13]: But all I'm asking this time is that the council agree to table this item. [1:19:13, 1:19:15]: And allow Mr. Malazi [1:19:16, 1:19:17]: And his team [1:19:17, 1:19:19]: To go back and [1:19:19, 1:19:35]: I don't know if they need to form a new selection committee. I don't know. That's up to you all. All I'm asking, because other all I'm asking is that we table this. He agrees to table it. Otherwise, I'm going to oppose it. I only have one vote. [1:19:35, 1:19:37]: I think I've explained myself thoroughly. [1:19:37, 1:19:38]: This time. [1:19:39, 1:19:39]: I hope so. [1:19:40, 1:19:58]: Thank you. Mayor. No st no standby. Stand by. Mr. Barrett, please. Mayor for in in in the effort to um honor what City Manager uh Edmondson has stated that he requires time to review the policy. Uh and in the effort for us to not belabor it, he did. He stated he needed to review the policy. [1:19:59, 1:20:02]: Stand by. Can you restate what you requested? [1:20:03, 1:20:23]: No, I well what I was stating was I was unaware that there was a policy violation associated with this particular item. If it is. Correct. Yeah. Right. Because I don't know when this was voted on. Exactly. I mean, so he doesn't know if the policy even exists or not. So he needs the time to find the policy to make sure that he is adhering to it. He doesn't want to break a policy that he's not aware. [1:20:23, 1:20:43]: So he needs time to find the details and the specifics of the policy. So with that being said, I'd like to make a motion to table this while Mr. Edmondson does the research that he has requested to do. Mr. Berry, first she made the motion to table that she made the motion. [1:20:43, 1:20:53]: Okay. So motion has been made to table this has been seconded by Mr. Berry. I'm sorry. I have a discussion. You have a discussion. Go ahead, please. Just one question. Yes. In regards to [1:20:54, 1:21:01]: Um I'm not let me just say this. I'm not against tabling. I believe that if it's procedural we need to follow procedures. I've always said [1:21:02, 1:21:09]: We're going by the law and we go by policies and procedures. My question is, when was this discovered? Because it wasn't stated. [1:21:09, 1:21:11]: That I mean [1:21:11, 1:21:14]: I didn't I don't see it anywhere where it's stated. [1:21:14, 1:21:34]: that it was five members or four members of the same group and it needed to change. So where when did Councilwoman barber um I guess this question is for you, when did you discover that procedure you believe may not have been followed the way it needs to be? And when did you disclose it to Mr. Malazzi and why [1:21:34, 1:21:37]: I wasn't our city manager aware of it. [1:21:40, 1:21:50]: I I brought this up during our last meeting. You all have a tendency of ignoring me, but I brought it up during the last meeting. [1:21:51, 1:21:51]: Um [1:21:52, 1:21:56]: And also I mentioned to Mr. Malausie today. [1:21:56, 1:21:57]: When I got here. [1:21:57, 1:21:58]: Um so yeah. [1:21:59, 1:22:00]: I mentioned it to him. [1:22:00, 1:22:01]: Today. [1:22:01, 1:22:03]: And I mentioned it too. [1:22:03, 1:22:06]: The public and you all at the last meeting. [1:22:06, 1:22:17]: Right. So I only recall the part about the um cost request. I don't recall the additional things that you're mentioning. [1:22:18, 1:22:19]: However [1:22:19, 1:22:22]: I think that it would save us all time. [1:22:22, 1:22:25]: And it's a common practice we wouldn't be up here going back and forth. [1:22:25, 1:22:26]: If [1:22:26, 1:22:30]: this wouldn't even be on the agenda. We would removed it. [1:22:30, 1:22:30]: Had [1:22:31, 1:22:42]: we looked at this prior or someone looked at this and and just sent them an email and said, Hey, yeah, but it's I I'm sorry, uh you know, it's still not right. Let's go ahead and get it removed. [1:22:42, 1:22:43]: Instead of [1:22:44, 1:22:45]: being on camera [1:22:46, 1:22:50]: saying, Oh, I told you this again. No, it I I feel like [1:22:51, 1:22:53]: We all can work together and [1:22:54, 1:23:00]: If you see something, if I see something that's on the agenda and I think it should be removed, if I saw it ahead of time. [1:23:00, 1:23:03]: Or if I reviewed something, then I'm gonna do a courtesy. [1:23:04, 1:23:05]: Based off of our civility. [1:23:06, 1:23:07]: Um [1:23:08, 1:23:08]: Uh [1:23:08, 1:23:10]: The thing and say, Hey [1:23:11, 1:23:14]: I think we still gotta we still need to table it because all of my [1:23:15, 1:23:20]: concerns haven't been answered. We still have some policies that I believe aren't there. [1:23:20, 1:23:24]: And so that's w I I don't know of the policy, I don't. [1:23:24, 1:23:29]: But I I am going to yield to the to um [1:23:29, 1:23:49]: Okay. Councilwoman Barber's knowledge of that policy. But I remember um we had someone write a procurement policy. The attorney, um God, I can't think of his name right now. Here's what Berry. So here's what I'd like to do here if you don't mind. The motion is made to table, it's been seconded. Let's take a vote and then we'll discuss that we'll [1:23:49, 1:24:09]: We've had enough discussion. We we we always have to have discussion. We what what if procedurally correct we've asked the attorney discussion is men the mandatory request during that time. That is the [1:24:09, 1:24:29]: Policy of the city. You how many times are you supposed to talk? Sir, I have I have spoken twice, but this is discussion. That's different. No, I'm not noticing. Yes, it is. There's two times during the subject, and then there's discussion. No, no. My point is, where is this policy that is being described? That's why that's why we need to that's why you need to vote on this. I don't know, but no, miss. [1:24:28, 1:24:40]: Barber has described a policy. Where is this policy? Where is it at? Where is it noted in the city that this that this is the policy? You have the policy, Miss Ms. Clerk, you have the policy? [1:24:41, 1:24:43]: Do you point it out to us? [1:24:46, 1:24:50]: But do you have you don't have the policy? N not at her fingertips, she does not. [1:24:52, 1:24:57]: Okay. So the motion's been made, been table uh to table this and been second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:24:58, 1:25:00]: I'll pause. [1:25:00, 1:25:20]: Well, you're post. Motion passed three to one. The the intent though was through the conversation's intent to research this policy process and I imagine bring it back to the well you said in part of the May I I want to make a statement on what we're doing. Hold on. Let me finish let me finish some. So otherwise we need to bring this back once you research the what is the policy is this, make sure we follow the right policy. [1:25:20, 1:25:28]: And doing the right things on this aspect. And I believe the initial thought was to bring it back later on in October. [1:25:29, 1:25:29]: Revolt. [1:25:30, 1:25:50]: Well well well we right now it's table. Cause to the staff. Because what's gonna happen is you're gonna go back and revision his history, look at this again, then you're gonna have to select the new committee. [1:25:49, 1:26:09]: You're gonna have to vote. So it's gonna be months before we have a sidewalk uh contractor approved. Because if this is an invalid process, the treasurer says let it move through. But if this is an invalid process or or some minutiae that was done, we had six members on the board, six members on the board. But what has happened is if that is [1:26:09, 1:26:29]: The case, then we're gonna have to start the whole process over again from scratch. And there's not gonna be a sidewalk, uh pro sidewalk provider for months. Guess what? The motion's been passed in motion by by your colleagues. So to where I voted. Okay. Well, well, you point over you already spoken again. So otherwise, mo you gotta reset this, check off whatever the policies, and bring it back. [1:26:29, 1:26:34]: back to the council for for approval, for discussion. All right? We need to move on. [1:26:38, 1:26:58]: Next item was a public hearing that's been delayed until later on this month. Uh so what was been added to the agenda deals with a city event in reference to uh discussion and and to reference to approve approval process for burn the mortgage process. And right now it's tenderly set for the uh twenty fifth of October, six to eight PM at the amphitheater. With uh [1:26:58, 1:27:18]: to a burn the mortgage uh uh event. Um now I I would know that uh during the course of the last several months I know I've had some discussion uh with uh well before we released our um con uh our amphitheater manager early part of the year had a discussion on the fact that I knew that the mortgage would be complete. It would be [1:27:17, 1:27:37]: We complete debt free as of August and talked to him specifically months and months ago about having some type of special event like a mortgage burnoff to celebrate the four years of process of of um of the completion of the of the amphitheater itself and and and debt free. I'm just assuming that uh that Congress [1:27:37, 1:27:48]: other conversations that occurred with the council in reference to this you're in favor of having this type of ceremony. So um um and for the process, uh Mr. Edmondson come back to the podium please. [1:27:54, 1:28:14]: Is my is my assumption and it straightened me out if if the mom off base, my assumption that uh the initial planning had occurred in reference to this based on uh conversations and or directives or thought processes that that were filtered or given to you in reference to um having a such an event to celebrate this uh the completion of the payment for the ampathy, is that correct? [1:28:13, 1:28:14]: Mm-hmm. [1:28:14, 1:28:34]: Uh yes, sir. Uh came up a couple of times, several different times. Uh we went ahead and, you know, saved the date and once again we still doing um locking in details, but we also wanted to make sure because if there are any questions out there specifically around events or any type of policy that is brought up, we want to make sure that we always doing the right thing. So we thought it was [1:28:34, 1:28:54]: Best that we brought this before you guys and have a discussion about it or and then get a formal approval. Because at the end of the day, our staff is just trying to you know follow you know whatever recommendations that we have or what what we get. Uh, but we also want to make sure that we do it the right way. So we thought it was the best that we brought this forward to get a formal. [1:28:54, 1:28:59]: uh thumbs up or thumbs down to uh move forward with this particular event. [1:29:00, 1:29:08]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am, go ahead please. Are there any we're not having a concert, it's just the burning of a more like a ceremonial thing like we do proclamations or anything else, correct? [1:29:09, 1:29:29]: Right. It's uh supposedly right now we uh are projecting to do like a history video from the first year, the second year, third year, fourth year up to now. Uh have uh uh I think uh some type of little band, local band to kind of play and just kinda celebratory type things. So nothing elaborate, nothing. [1:29:29, 1:29:33]: like that, have some smaller refreshments for, you know, uh [1:29:34, 1:29:54]: our different sponsors that we had throughout the the builder, the actual the architect and everybody that played a part in uh bringing this day to to where it is now. So that was the whole thought behind it. Um but once again, when there's anything that's out there, we always want to bring it before you guys just to make sure that, you know, it is supported. [1:29:54, 1:29:59]: Um if that's the will of the council. So that's why we wanted to make sure that we [1:29:59, 1:30:16]: add this item to the agenda formally. I appreciate that. But there are events, certain things, state of addresses and different things that we don't right just come and bring to mayor and council. It's just part of the city's events, especially when it's nominal. I support it because it's it's outstanding. It's a great [1:30:17, 1:30:20]: announcement. It's a a great accomplishment. Um [1:30:20, 1:30:24]: I've said this before, the building for City Hall hasn't been paid off yet. [1:30:24, 1:30:29]: Um that was established in two thousand six with the previous council. [1:30:29, 1:30:38]: And in twenty thirty-six it'll be paid off. But this was paid off in in four years. I think that's an accomplishment within itself. [1:30:38, 1:30:52]: And you know, we've heard different public comments and it's political season is election time, and even the statements tonight were untrue and I don't know but where some of it came from. But at the same time [1:30:53, 1:31:04]: I think it's important that the public know that we are doing our part and we're doing exactly what we said we're gonna do. So I definitely support a celebratorial. Um we we don't do we don't ask for that. [1:31:04, 1:31:09]: B it's kinda odd coming asking us for that. Because we've had [1:31:10, 1:31:23]: Receptions for everything else. I mean, we're talking about possibly potentially doing a reception um soon in honor of uh one of our council members. It's just something that we w we we would do. So [1:31:23, 1:31:27]: Yeah. Thank you for telling us. Miss Barber Coy, please. [1:31:28, 1:31:38]: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Edmondson, for speaking to this. Um, because I just learned of this celebration from a post on the city's website. [1:31:39, 1:31:42]: Or on the city's Facebook page. That's how I learned of it. [1:31:43, 1:31:46]: I'm sure they knew prior to last week. [1:31:47, 1:31:53]: But it was the first time that I learned of it. So I wanna know what the budget is for this celebration. [1:31:54, 1:31:57]: Uh yes, we anticipate it causing no more than fourteen thousand. [1:31:57, 1:31:59]: Fourteen thousand. Yes, ma'am. [1:32:02, 1:32:03]: Thank you, sir. Mm-hmm. [1:32:04, 1:32:24]: Any other comments from the council? If not, then I just need a motion to before you do that, sir. I I would definitely like clarity because since I've been here, and I think this is a lot of issues where a lot of chaos comes in, because uh I keep hearing about r rules and policies, whether written or unwritten, uh it makes my [1:32:24, 1:32:41]: my job extremely difficult when things are not crystal clear. I don't operate in chaos. I think we owe it to ourselves, we owe it to our residents to have clear guidance. And things like this, once again, is one of those things that you, you know, okay, is it good, not good? But what's the policy? [1:32:41, 1:32:46]: And I can tell you going to uh the the the ordinance and different things of that nature [1:32:46, 1:33:03]: I just don't find a lot of things that get questioned around here. So at the end of the day, I just think that what the guidance is is what we will follow as staff and we'll be commit to that. But we have to be crystal clear. And I think that's what causes a lot of drama and chaos when it doesn't have to be that. [1:33:03, 1:33:04]: You know, so [1:33:05, 1:33:16]: Um I I am definitely leaning on y'all to to give clear guidance and help when it comes to that. And some stuff are implied tasks, I get that, some stuff are specified tasks, but at the end of the day, I'm regulatory. [1:33:16, 1:33:20]: Either is in the ordinance or it's not. Either it's written or it's not. [1:33:20, 1:33:23]: And and I can't be judge or uh or [1:33:24, 1:33:44]: You know, held accountable for something that's not written or I don't know about. So I would definitely uh lean on you you guys' guidance on that when we're talking about certain things because I I hear this quite often and I'm still, you know, once again, okay, where's that? Show me where that policy at, or show me what I should be doing. And sometimes that doesn't that doesn't exist. I have one. Um so there's a standard. [1:33:44, 1:33:53]: standard that people or expectation that I believe that's unfairly, you know, out there for somebody that's in my in my shoes. So just wanna put that out there. [1:33:54, 1:33:55]: Mr. Berry, please, sir. [1:33:55, 1:34:12]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to make a motion to give the city manager and staff the leeway to put together the program commemorating the mortgage burning for the Vistar Amphitheater at the bridge to commemorate this historical and nominal event that all in the city of Stockbridge should be proud of. [1:34:13, 1:34:16]: Just second the motion. I second. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [1:34:18, 1:34:19]: a povust. [1:34:20, 1:34:23]: You you oppose, you you're four opposed. [1:34:25, 1:34:26]: Are you for or po, sir? [1:34:27, 1:34:28]: I'm also [1:34:28, 1:34:35]: You'll support it. Okay, so that's three z uh and you're you're against so it's three one. Motion passed. Go write it with your comment. [1:34:35, 1:34:35]: Um [1:34:36, 1:34:38]: So it's not the event itself. [1:34:39, 1:34:40]: Uh Mr. Budget. [1:34:40, 1:34:41]: Considering [1:34:43, 1:34:43]: Can [1:34:43, 1:34:46]: the circumstances. Um [1:34:46, 1:34:58]: We all agreed and supported the recommendation by our city's financial off chief financial officer and our city's chief or [1:34:58, 1:35:00]: Financial advisor. [1:35:00, 1:35:06]: that we would agree and adhere to a two to three year plan. [1:35:06, 1:35:07]: Two [1:35:08, 1:35:10]: Find ways to save. [1:35:11, 1:35:12]: And [1:35:13, 1:35:15]: This is not something I feel as though [1:35:16, 1:35:17]: It's [1:35:18, 1:35:18]: Essential. [1:35:20, 1:35:21]: If it were half that [1:35:22, 1:35:23]: I would consider it. [1:35:23, 1:35:43]: But fourteen thousand, that's just too much. That's all. Thank you. All right, the motion passed three to one. We'll move on to the next subject. I hope that helps you, Mr. Edmundson, at this point. I I I have one more thing. Yes, sir. Um I heard about this two to three year policy. I have yet to be provided that. So Mr. Malazi, if you could provide me that that you and the advisor came up with. [1:35:43, 1:36:00]: because I think that's extremely important as the city manager that I have that document that we all say we agree on, a three two to three year plan. Because without that, then it's impossible to make accurate decisions. So if we have that policy and that's something that y'all adopted, I should have that document. [1:36:01, 1:36:21]: Mayor. All right. You have another comment? One more comment. Go ahead, please. Thank you. Um, Mr. Edmuson, if we've caused any complications, I wanna personally apologize to you for that. I think that you're absolutely right. There needs to be some standard policies and procedures, and there are none. You're not gonna find those in the [1:36:21, 1:36:26]: the ordinances. We do have some policies that pot some resolutions that are outdated. [1:36:26, 1:36:42]: Because when we got a new council, we have to re we have to redo them. At this point, it's the end of the term almost, so it's best to just wait and do them, go through them and then renew them at the beginning of the year. But I don't want you to think [1:36:42, 1:36:59]: for one minute that we want to cause confusion. And I you're here one thing and here another. I I do want the costs to come down a little bit on the s uh you know, I mean we're a city, it's a municipality. So everything costs. The reception's gonna be nice. This is a big deal. [1:36:59, 1:37:18]: And w the the financial advisor as well as our accountant has already stated that our expenditures and revenues balanced out. Like we keep hearing the mismanagement of funds and different things that are just simply we keep saying they're not true, there's nothing there anymore, we've gotten it corrected. [1:37:19, 1:37:22]: But the guidance that we have to give you. [1:37:22, 1:37:27]: Um, I stand fast on making sure that takes place. You're absolutely correct, and it's not fair. [1:37:28, 1:37:38]: It's not fair to hold anyone accountable or say one thing and then you ask a staff member, is this true? And they don't know what you're talking about. I don't wanna put someone in that position. And so [1:37:39, 1:37:45]: Whatever we need to do to iron that out, any suggestions you may have on things, policies that we need in writing. [1:37:46, 1:37:53]: Then so be it. Let us know. Because uh you know, you're here all the time, we're not, and you get you hear from [1:37:54, 1:38:05]: five council members and a mayor separately. And you may get direction from one and another and you need some kind of guidance on that. If you need written policies on it, let us know so we can get those done. [1:38:05, 1:38:07]: Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. [1:38:07, 1:38:27]: Look let me just say this quickly. It's not your fault. It's the people setting up your fault. Because they're not giving you clear direction and they're all over the place. Because when stuff comes up and policies two policies have been pulled out of thin air tonight on you. [1:38:27, 1:38:47]: That don't exist or were brought forward. Okay? And now we're expecting you to make a decision on that. Because when stuff comes forward, you're given the information that you that you're given, you make a decision, and then a Monday morning quarterback comes in and says, Oh, by the way, we're throwing this into the pot now. No one can operate. [1:38:47, 1:38:55]: Under those circumstances. There's supposed to be a team up here. And when stuff like that happens, every last one of us has your phone number. [1:38:55, 1:39:13]: F each person is responsible for what they could their conduct. They can call you and say, This is a problem. You don't have to show up here at the meeting and make an exam do that. You can do that phone call to you ahead of time, which is the professional courtesy that we should show everybody that's sitting up here. Because [1:39:14, 1:39:15]: Well oui. [1:39:15, 1:39:18]: Have trouble executing a sidewalk policy. [1:39:19, 1:39:39]: For a month to two months. I got sidewalks out there right now that need to be fixed. Now we gotta go back to square zero in order to make that happen. And it's gonna take months for that sidewalk. There could be a safety hazard out there to be done with. When a policy was presented to you and the treasurer [1:39:39, 1:39:48]: No one up here knows what the no one up here a policy was thrown out there with no evidence to support it at all. None. [1:39:49, 1:40:07]: Yet you were supposed to comply with a policy that was presented to you with no documentation from the person who's always screaming documentation, documentation, documentation did not present one document to you to back up what was said. That is the problem that's coming forth up here. Thank you. [1:40:07, 1:40:27]: All right, so appeal case AP two zero two five-02, we agreed to have that after our executive session. And so we'll go move on to council consideration to approve the purchase of eight Harris XL two hundred P portable radios from London Luden Communications, a total cost of sixty thousand seven hundred ninety-eight dollars and ten cents as a soldier. [1:40:27, 1:40:29]: source procurement. [1:40:29, 1:40:34]: All right, so the Chief's not here, so the Deputy Chief's gonna come forward along with our [1:40:34, 1:40:54]: And actually, Mayor, before we get to that matter, um I know that there's a few people in the audience who are here for the appeal matter tonight. Um I at the same time that you guys were receiving were um talking about the um agenda um amendments, um I received word that the applicant has requested a 60-day deferral um and if the city was [1:40:54, 1:41:03]: Was going to honor that deferral to let these folks go home. Um before because that [1:41:04, 1:41:24]: All right. Well if that's the case, geez. Okay. So that's item number four. You're talking about PO case uh uh AP two zero two five zero two. Uh sixty day deferral. All right. All right. So otherwise since you brought that forward, counsel, is there a motion to accept this uh sixty day def deferral? So moved. Is there a second? Second. From Ms. Gampton, Mr. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. [1:41:25, 1:41:32]: All right, granted. Thank you. Done. Sixty days is done. We won't have we'll no need to have a second session then on that note. Then okay, got it. So be it. Um [1:41:33, 1:41:36]: Assistant Chief, Godfrey, sir, on you, sir, please. [1:41:36, 1:41:46]: Mayor, Council, good evening. Uh Chief Trainers uh makes his apologies for not being here this evening. He is currently under the weather. We have two agenda items before you this evening. The first one [1:41:47, 1:41:49]: is for your consideration and approve. Uh [1:41:49, 1:42:09]: The purchase of eight Harris XL 200P portable radios from Loudoun Communications at a total cost of sixty thousand seven hundred ninety-eight dollars and ten cents. This is a sole source procurement as Loudoun Communications is the exclusive authorized distributor of Harris radios in the state of Georgia. The funding source is the uh [1:42:09, 1:42:18]: traffic camera fund that was authorized and approved as part of the FY twenty five budget uh from the t traffic camera fund. [1:42:20, 1:42:23]: Okay, council, any questions for Assistant Chief Coffery here? [1:42:24, 1:42:34]: I do have a question in regards to the sole source. Um I don't see that procurement to verify that it's sole source. So I wanna ask Mr. Malazi. [1:42:35, 1:42:35]: Soul source. [1:42:36, 1:42:43]: Mm Miss Melaji, come to quoting please. So it sorts. Because I don't see anything that indicates that. Um [1:42:53, 1:43:02]: Yes, it's so source because of the nature how it was. Uh we couldn't within the limited time that we had. So we had to so it's so source, yes. [1:43:03, 1:43:04]: Thank you. [1:43:05, 1:43:09]: If no other questions from the council any motion to accept this, please. [1:43:10, 1:43:14]: Mayor Ford, I make a motion that we accept um [1:43:16, 1:43:31]: The proposal from the police department for the uh Loudoun communications at a total cost of sixty thousand seven hundred and ninety eight dollars and ten cent from a sole source procurement provider uh as prescribed. And so from Mr. Berry, who's the second? [1:43:32, 1:43:33]: Is there a second? [1:43:36, 1:43:37]: Is there a set? [1:43:38, 1:43:41]: I second. Okay, Miss Gantt second that. [1:43:41, 1:43:41]: Okay. [1:43:42, 1:43:43]: All in favor, please in the cake. [1:43:45, 1:43:47]: Okay, generous decision. Thank you very much. Okay. [1:43:48, 1:43:49]: So um [1:43:49, 1:44:09]: We'll continue on. Council's consideration to approve the purchase of two 2025 Ford Mustang MACE electrical vehicles and two 2025 Ford F-150 police responder pickup trucks from the Allen Visual Ford at a cost of$214,499, and five 2025. [1:44:09, 1:44:23]: Chevrolet Tahoe PVVs and one 2026 Chevrolet Severado, a 1500 pickup truck from Hardy Automotive Group at a cost of$329,922.80 through a state contract. [1:44:24, 1:44:37]: Assistant Chief, please. Yes, sir. As as noted, uh both of these purchases, there'd be purchased from two different dealerships, Allen Vigil and Morrow and Hardy Automotive Groof, both are on state contract. [1:44:38, 1:44:46]: Uh industry standards recommends that a police department fleet maintain anywhere from ten to twenty percent in reserve. [1:44:46, 1:44:49]: So with that being said, um [1:44:50, 1:45:01]: To ensure continuity of operations. Historically, the police department ha has maintained about 10% in reserve fleet. This is when we first started out and we had sixty-two sworn personnel. [1:45:01, 1:45:21]: Uh as you recall in the 2024-2025 budget, we expanded that uh by five personnel. We've added public safety officers as well as code enforcement. However, um with these positions, as a result, uh we are no longer able to maintain that standard of the 10 to 20 percent in reserve. [1:45:21, 1:45:41]: As you know, our vehicles are constantly needing maintenance. We have unexpected breakdowns, we have vehicle collisions, and lately we've been also dealing with manufacturer recalls. So when you couple all that together, at any given time, we've got vehicles that are completely out of service. These proposed purchases will begin the [1:45:41, 1:46:01]: Correct that shortfall, rotating older, higher mileage vehicles into a pool status, establishing the start of a true reserve fleet. These purchases will also replace some lost vehicles at the very beginning since 2022. There's been actually a total of five vehicles that we have lost. One of [1:46:01, 1:46:04]: [6365.0, 6385.0]: Uh the first two vehicles uh were replaced, but unfortunately due to operational needs, we replaced those two uh vehicles with CSI vans for our investigators to be able to go out and process crime scenes. Uh the last two, one of them actually being my vehicle that was totally down on Patrick Henry Parkway last year when someone struck me from [1:46:25, 1:46:33]: Behind. These vehicles are doing what they're designed to do. However, when that happens, it doesn't take a whole lot these days for a vehicle to be totaled out. [1:46:33, 1:46:45]: Uh so obviously that's the the vehicles that we're seeking here tonight. Uh part of the vehicles that we're asking for includes two Ford Mustang Maquis, which are are the electric vehicles. [1:46:45, 1:47:05]: Uh we have been given preliminary information that we're going to be awarded the Georgia Power uh grant to install EV chargers at the police department. Once we receive formal notification of that, we will bring obviously bring that before council uh to seek your approval to move that project forward. And obviously we'll continue to expand that project uh in the year. [1:47:05, 1:47:06]: Years to come. [1:47:07, 1:47:08]: Um [1:47:09, 1:47:29]: The uh this supports, which also supports the city's uh sustainability initiative, uh reducing long-term fuel costs, lowering environmental impacts, and modernized modernizing uh the fleet's operations. These purchases are being made through the established statewide contract process. Uh, this funding source is being uh provided through the [1:47:29, 1:47:35]: traffic fan uh traffic camera uh fund again part of the FY twenty twenty five approved budget. [1:47:36, 1:47:55]: Assistant Chief, out of curiosity, the Georgia Power grant, what's the a total amount on that per se? Do you have so they are allocating uh right now we're looking at around forty thousand dollars uh to for the infrastructure itself. We have already spoken with Georgia Power. They are going to be coming out to our facility free of charge and increasing [1:47:55, 1:47:57]: The електрика for that. [1:47:58, 1:48:07]: And then once we have anything offset from that, we will cover those additional funds out of the traffic camera fund so that we're not impacting the general fund at all. [1:48:07, 1:48:13]: Okay, great, fantastic. Uh council, questions for the assistant chief here. Go ahead, please, Ms. Barrow. [1:48:14, 1:48:15]: And perhaps I missed it. [1:48:16, 1:48:17]: But this is a [1:48:17, 1:48:26]: contract, you all are piggybacking off of the state contract. Yes ma'am, that's correct. Is this considered like an emergency purchase from the state contract? [1:48:27, 1:48:37]: No ma'am, it is just it's just vehicles from the existing state contracts. Gotcha. Did you read your those state contracts that you are piggybacking off of into the record? [1:48:37, 1:48:43]: Uh, this is not a piggyback contract, this is actual state contract that we're purchasing these vehicles from. [1:48:44, 1:48:52]: It's called piggybacking off of a state contract. Did you read those contract numbers into the record? Yes, ma'am. If you would please, sir. [1:48:52, 1:48:54]: So that the clerk will get it. [1:48:54, 1:49:14]: So the first one is Allen Vigil Ford, state contract number SPD 0000183-005. The second contract is Hardy Automotive Group. State contract number is SPD 0000183-000. [1:49:14, 1:49:17]: Dash zero zero zero two. [1:49:17, 1:49:21]: Thank you, sir. Yes. Um and my last question therefore. [1:49:21, 1:49:24]: For Mr Malazy, did this go through? [1:49:24, 1:49:26]: Your department procurement. [1:49:28, 1:49:28]: Yes, it did. [1:49:29, 1:49:29]: Okay. [1:49:30, 1:49:31]: That's what I needed to know. Thank you, sir. [1:49:32, 1:49:33]: Council, any other questions? Go ahead, please. [1:49:34, 1:49:36]: So you have mentioned [1:49:38, 1:49:43]: Well, you you guys are trying to get a surplus of t between ten to twenty percent of fleet. [1:49:45, 1:49:47]: Just in case something happened. [1:49:49, 1:49:50]: But [1:49:50, 1:49:58]: What happens when we total out a vehicle? Or w does the insurance not cover that we don't get a new vehicle? And what happens when [1:49:58, 1:49:59]: We [1:50:00, 1:50:20]: Have a recall. They fix the recall, right? And they give it back to us. Right. So we're not losing any vehicles. For the recall, no. But when a vehicle is totaled out, depending on whose fault it is, and none of these accidents that we've had were our fault. So the insurance company sends a check based on the current market value. Obviously, we're not getting full. [1:50:20, 1:50:40]: Full replacement cost of these vehicles. So depending on what is damaged, whether it's just the vehicle, if it's totaled out, we also assess the vehicle to determine whether or not any of the upfitted equipment, like the emergency equipment, has been a damage, like for example, my Tahoe. We received close to$58,000 that went back into general fund. [1:50:40, 1:50:43]: from my vehicle as well as some of the damaged emergency equipment. [1:50:44, 1:50:45]: All right. [1:50:45, 1:50:46]: I don't [1:50:47, 1:50:48]: Do we have [1:50:50, 1:50:55]: I had recently asked for a total a total amount [1:50:56, 1:51:00]: uh vehicles and that's we can do that at a later date in time. I can get that off [1:51:01, 1:51:01]: Later. [1:51:02, 1:51:04]: But my concern is [1:51:05, 1:51:08]: if the vehicles are replaced and we're trying to get additional [1:51:09, 1:51:12]: things because uh I I'm looking at the budget for next year. [1:51:13, 1:51:17]: in the proposals and I'm concerned. I'm concerned about [1:51:17, 1:51:19]: Whether or not this is a want or a need. [1:51:20, 1:51:22]: And and we have we have funding. [1:51:23, 1:51:41]: I know we I mean that's 2025 budget, but it's red light. I mean it's the st the camera. Red speed funds. And that funding could help offset some of those things that we have planned for the budget of next year, which looks pretty hefty. [1:51:42, 1:52:02]: So currently we have 79 vehicles in the police department's fleet and we have seventy-nine employees driving cars. So right now we have zero reserve for when those cars go down for recalls, for maintenance, or Lord forbid, knock on wood, that we have another vehicle accident and then we have a vehicle that's completely gone waiting on [1:52:02, 1:52:05]: on the purchase or insurance which which can take several months. [1:52:06, 1:52:06]: Okay. [1:52:08, 1:52:14]: Council, you got any more any more questions? And if there are not, I'm gonna motion to uh accept this proposal. [1:52:16, 1:52:17]: Is there a motion? [1:52:18, 1:52:19]: Still moved. [1:52:19, 1:52:20]: Is there a second? [1:52:22, 1:52:26]: Sorry. Okay. From Miss uh Ms. Barber to Mr. Alzheimer's arm fair, please indicate. [1:52:28, 1:52:48]: Okay. All posed? Abstain. Abstain. 301. Motion passed. Thank you, Assistant Chief. Yes, sir. All right. Mr. Melazi, appreciate you. Announcements of upcoming uh meetings and events. Council meetings will be held in council chamber. Meeting dates, location, times are subject changed or contact the city hall offices at 770. [1:52:48, 1:53:08]: or visit the website at uh www.stopbridgega.org for updates. Citywide Development Authority meeting, second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room on October 14th. Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting third Thursday of each month, 6:30 p.m. City Hall [1:53:08, 1:53:16]: City Hall Levi Meeting Room, October 16th. Planning Commission meeting, Thursday, October 16th, 6:30 p.m. in the City Hall Council Chambers. [1:53:16, 1:53:21]: Downtown Alabama Authority Board meeting third Tuesday of each month at six PM at the downtown connection center. [1:53:22, 1:53:37]: 130 M L King Senior Heritage Trail, October 21st. Ethics Board meeting Wednesday, October twenty second, and Levi Meeting Room, six thirty, October twenty second. City Council Work Session meeting Tuesda last Tuesday of each month, October twenty eighth to six P. M. in City Council Chamber. [1:53:38, 1:53:58]: uh forthcoming city events and initiatives. District 2 and 3 Town Hall on for the 21st of October at 7 p.m. It will be at Global Impact Ministries on Red Oak Drive, I believe it is, and with Mr. Berry, he'll be there. Join Councilman Thomas and Councilman Berry in partnership for the monthly Bingo Bath. [1:53:58, 1:54:10]: on Wednesday, October 15th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon. Merrill Manner's Conference Center. Lots of fun to be had by all. Join the City of Stockbridge for the annual breast cancer love walk this Saturday, October 18th from 10 a.m. to noon. [1:54:11, 1:54:11]: Clark Park. [1:54:12, 1:54:17]: And contact event staff for any more information and events at stopbridge G A dot or G. [1:54:18, 1:54:38]: Join Mayor Pro Tem Gantt for the free annual fall festival on Saturday, October 25th at Clark Park with candy, food trucks, games, costume contests, prizes, and more. Join myself, Mayor Ford, for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Monday, October 27th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon in City Hall. Meetings are by an appointment. Startbridge Main Street is hosting Dive. [1:54:38, 1:54:58]: IB's Awareness Walk on Health Fair on Saturday, November 1st. The registration begins at 7:30 a.m. The 5K walk will begin at 8:30 a.m. in Clark Park. Health Fair will take place at 10 a.m. to have noon. Various locations throughout the park, weather permitting at the Merle Manders Conference Center, lower level to be relocated there if it's raining on us. [1:54:58, 1:55:18]: Join Councilman Alexander for the District 5 Community Cleanup Saturday, November 8th, 2025, from 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. Please meet at Costco Parking Lot on Jodica Road. The Economic Development Department hosts a free business health clinic on the second Thursday of each month from 9 a.m. to 12 noon. Strawbridge Connection Center, 130 MLP. [1:55:18, 1:55:38]: King's Senior Heritage Trail. Check your health for your business with a free clinic. Councilman Thomas is on in veterans and continues to salute all year long. Please send your pictures of veterans and their names, branch, rank, and years of service service. Sign up for real-time alerts about severe weather and road closures, emergencies, and regroup app. Visit the city's website or social. [1:55:38, 1:55:58]: social media pages for more information on how and where to sign up stay safe. Uh please contact Rosalind Ross to schedule appointment with meet the mayor or more information on council initiatives six seven eight eight three three three three four eight or by way of email rose at stopridge dot or g I must have forgot something. You still having your your dance [1:55:57, 1:55:58]: Mm. [1:55:58, 1:56:01]: I am go ahead, I'm sorry. I didn't see you not here. [1:56:02, 1:56:02]: Yeah. [1:56:02, 1:56:07]: Go ahead. What what is it? Um it's not this Wednesday's the following Wednesday. Oh, [1:56:07, 1:56:12]: October twenty October twenty second from six to eight at Merrill Manders, the line dancing class. [1:56:18, 1:56:20]: Okay. [1:56:21, 1:56:41]: Oh okay. Good deal. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right, uh Saturday, October eighteenth. This Saturday Detroit Gospel Legends featuring Fred Hammond, DeAndre Johnson, Anthony Brown, Vanessa Bell Armstrong, Lisa Page Brooks, Carmen Wines, and Brian Byron Cage for a gospel concert. So I'll obviously we're gonna lift up and praise the Lord. [1:56:41, 1:57:01]: Yeah, on on the eighteenth. Okay. And then of course, as you uh realize now October twenty fifth, burning mortgage, six to eight PM at the Vice Star Amphitheater at the bridge. And and uh obviously there'll be some musical guests there as well. And that one will be free and open to the public. And we're looking forward to have H T Russell and Company, who built the amphitheater for us, and T S W architects who [1:57:01, 1:57:21]: Drew out the plans for that to be there present for this uh historic event. And for my comments, it is October. Flu shots, people get your flu shots, get ready for the winter months, COVID nineteen boosters. Make sure you get your boosters in this aspect and uh life for everybody if you're a football fan, enjoy your favorite football team, whether it's high school, college or [1:57:21, 1:57:36]: The pros and obviously you the rough falcons of course playing right downtown. So maybe we'll get out here and go watch the Falcons, right? Hopefully we'll win the game. And happy Halloween to everybody. And on that note, I have no issues, uh nothing that I know for executive sessions, so I need a motion to [1:57:37, 1:57:41]: We we Mr Uh Edmonton [1:57:42, 1:57:46]: There was some a potential real estate issue. [1:57:47, 1:57:48]: Oh yeah, we're saying. [1:57:50, 1:57:51]: Yeah, yeah. [1:57:51, 1:57:53]: Huh? Say we do we don't need anything. [1:57:54, 1:58:00]: All right, that mo there's nothing for Zagrossen. I need a motion to end our meeting. [1:58:02, 1:58:03]: So moved. Second. [1:58:04, 1:58:08]: Okay. Motion's been made and seconded. Okay. [1:58:10, 1:58:30]: They were talking about real estate. I don't want us to if it's something about real estate that needs to go on, I want to make sure it's not good because that's important. Time is of the essence when it comes to real estate. That's the only thing y'all. Everyone knew about it. I I don't know anything. I just I just know that legally. [1:58:30, 1:58:42]: When I deal with real estate transactions, Times is of the essence. So I just want to make sure it's nothing to do with it. You need to understand this property is a property. [1:58:43, 1:59:03]: What is it? We uh the use of property property. No, we don't. The property no we if we build it right here onto front of oh they ain't did the adverse position yet. No. So what do we need? Okay, motion has been made for sale. Ladies and gentlemen, motion has been made in second to excuse me, the motion made in second to to end our meeting tonight. [1:59:02, 1:59:06]: All right. Well, they need an answer on the on the property or it's gonna be sold. [1:59:07, 1:59:08]: And we need it. [1:59:08, 1:59:28]: So wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me let me make a disclosure right now. I didn't know anything about what was just told to me, but if that is the case, then I think we need to have a real quick ten minute executive session about results. Nothing has been shared with me, so I have no idea of what they're talking about. I just [1:59:28, 1:59:32]: If there is indeed a need for an executive session, [1:59:33, 1:59:34]: The city manager. [1:59:35, 1:59:35]: Mr [1:59:36, 1:59:37]: Atmanson, can you please [1:59:38, 1:59:40]: Request that the council [1:59:40, 2:00:00]: Go into an executive session. Wait. No, I request I request that. But actually what standby. Hold on. He knows something that needs to happen here. Hold on, stand by. I'm relying on him so I can withdraw my motion. Stand by. What it amounts to is that I've I've checked with Mr. Edmondson earlier today. I didn't know anything about any type of sex other than one issue, and but we're not going there. So that's that's [2:00:00, 2:00:20]: That's fine. It dealt with what uh our attorney mentioned to us that uh they we I got a six day delay. I didn't know I personally did not know of anything else either, is this aspect. So and I don't know if that caught you by surprise as well, sir, in this aspect. But a motion is on the table right now to end our meeting, all right, and to, you know, go on. Now I I've I've not [2:00:20, 2:00:36]: This is news to me as well, just like Miss Gantt. All right, there's news to me in reference to this particular thought process issue. So there is a motion on the floor to end our meeting. Is there something specifically that you know about, sir, that we honestly need to talk about this evening? [2:00:36, 2:00:47]: Uh no, I was just trying to pull up an email that was just brought to my attention. Um, but I I'm not aware of that I'm trying to pull up now. So it's first time hearing about that. So [2:00:47, 2:00:49]: Okay. Mayor. Yes, Mayor. [2:00:50, 2:00:55]: If time is of the essence or if there is potential property. [2:00:56, 2:01:06]: that is for sale or something in regards to things that we want here, then we probably need to dis make that determination. However, if that is not the case, [2:01:07, 2:01:09]: I I just don't wanna be called in for a special call meeting. [2:01:10, 2:01:21]: That's it. And I'm just saying oh I'll take the advisement of council and and city manager on if y'all think we don't we go we're okay. I mean, it's worth hearing about, but like I say, this is first time me [2:01:22, 2:01:30]: All right. Well, this is the way I look at it. The motion's been made. It's been second. It's on the table of time. The motion was to adjourn. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:01:31, 2:01:32]: All Pope. [2:01:33, 2:01:36]: I oppose. [2:01:37, 2:01:53]: Uh you oppose n you oppose, okay. Well I tell you what, I'm on I'm on the firm's side. I think we need to end our meeting'cause I didn't know about this earlier. Meeting's now adjourned. That no meeting's now adjourned. We had a vote. I voted, it broke the tide. We meeting is now adjourned. It is seven twenty. God bless y'all.
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The Constitution of the United States of America. Of the United States of America. And the laws thereof. And the laws thereof. That I will support. That I will support. Uphold and defend the Constitution. And defend the [0:01:26, 0:01:46]: And laws and laws of the state of Georgia of the State of Georgia not inconsistent therewith that I will all I will observe and obey the laws and ordinances of the city of Stockbridge of the City of Stockbridge. Georgia that I will faithfully performed [0:01:46, 0:02:06]: And discharge and discharge the duties incumbent incumbent upon me upon you as a member of the city of Stockbridge Youth Council fairly and honestly to the best of my ability the best of my skill and ability so help me. [0:02:06, 0:02:07]: We got [0:02:07, 0:02:23]: This is a third day of September year uh year is two thousand and twenty five and congratulations. All right, all right. All right. So uh normally when do we have signed some documents here. Normally when we do this, the floor is yours. Do you have any comments you'd like to make? [0:02:24, 0:02:34]: I don't want to say thank you. Okay, that's that's fine. Okay. That's fine. Alright, so we're gonna sign sign this. Okay, great. [0:02:35, 0:02:39]: Okay, and you assign right there? Okay. [0:02:41, 0:02:42]: I just suppose that we don't have. [0:02:47, 0:02:48]: A sign right there as well. [0:02:54, 0:03:03]: And then uh this is uh a gift for you. Okay. Thank you. All right, and we're going to take a picture. [0:03:03, 0:03:23]: Oh I guess picture with or with it can be with or without the bag, it doesn't matter. But take we get make sure we get this crest in the back. Okay, no come on this side. Okay. Uh do you want to join us, Mama? Yes, Mama. Okay, so something you can get a file to her if you'd like. She can take a picture with your phone. And we can flank on the phone. Okay, okay. Okay, sure. We'll flank on you. Sorry, but we couldn't. [0:03:23, 0:03:24]: Yeah. [0:03:25, 0:03:25]: All right. [0:03:27, 0:03:29]: Okay. [0:03:40, 0:03:43]: are [0:03:45, 0:04:00]: Congratulations to you. All righty. Congratulations. Thank you so much. Okay. So out of curious, what high school? Dutch Town. Dutch Town. I don't know if you remember, but I'm a lifeguard in Monarch Village. [0:04:00, 0:04:20]: Ah I I did remember but I'm glad she said that'cause that's right where I live. Okay. I have to admit I haven't been to the pool in a couple kind of a year or so. You know, but good deal. So obviously you're a great swimmer. Yes. Good deal. Mommy, you know I swim too? No. No. [0:04:20, 0:04:23]: Number two. Well good. Uh you're junior. [0:07:43, 0:07:46]: Oh. [0:08:15, 0:08:25]: Yeah, I think so. I don't know if it's inside. [0:08:41, 0:08:44]: Evening ladies and gentlemen. [0:08:44, 0:08:47]: Madam Clerk, uh you said? Okay. [0:08:49, 0:08:51]: All right, Council, I have 603. [0:08:52, 0:09:10]: We uh it is our uh work session this evening, Tuesday, September thirtieth. I'd like to call the reading to order and the invocation uh this evening. Mr Collins, please come forward. If please stand if you can, individual people. If you go to Mike, make sure the green light is on. [0:09:11, 0:09:15]: Looks like it's on the box. Okay, go right here, please. Ready? [0:09:16, 0:09:36]: Bow heads for prayer. Father God, we just come here saying thank you. Thank you for allowing us to assemble in this place. We ask that you dwell in this place as we do the business that we come here to do that protects the city, provide for the city, etc. Bless those who are under the sign of my voice. Bless those who wanted to be here and could not. All these we ask in your son Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. [0:09:36, 0:09:52]: Okay. We'll pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under the God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Madam Clerk, Roll Call, please. [0:09:52, 0:10:11]: Good evening. Mayor Ford? Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Let the record reflect Mayor Pro Tem Gantt is not in attendance. Council Member Thomas. Let the record reflect Council Member Thomas is not in attendance. Councilmember Berry. Present. Council Member Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. [0:10:12, 0:10:16]: Present. Mayor Ford, you have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. [0:10:16, 0:10:18]: Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:10:19, 0:10:26]: So second from Mr Berry to Mr. Alexander, all in favor please indicate. Thank you very much. [0:10:26, 0:10:27]: Um [0:10:27, 0:10:36]: What we have next is public comments. Madam Clerk, we have any public comments at all? There are no public comments, Mayor. Okay, so council we have reviewed the minutes uh for the city council meeting on September eighth. [0:10:37, 0:10:44]: And uh take a look at those. If any changes or updates, please let the clerk know. We'll vote on this at our next regular meeting to approve that. [0:10:45, 0:11:03]: And on that note, we have our first presentation for this evening. And that would be a presentation requesting approval of a resolution to adopt a city-county joint transportation safety action plan. Mr. Aaron and Julia Billings with the Modern Mobility Partners Director of Transportation and Planning. [0:11:04, 0:11:06]: Please. Thank you. [0:11:22, 0:11:36]: Good evening, Ms. Mayor and Council. Evening. Herring County and the municipalities have been working on a transportation safety action plan. And tonight we have Miss Yasmin's I hope I pronounced Koroshaki and she's gonna present the plan to you. [0:11:42, 0:11:49]: How are you doing? Could you pronounce your name once again, please? Yes, sir. Yasmin Korashahi. Oh Yasmin Korashahi. Yes, sir. Okay, all right, thank you. Um [0:11:49, 0:11:54]: Mr. Mayor, honourable members of council, thank you for letting me pr present to you tonight. [0:11:54, 0:12:01]: I'm here on behalf of Henry County to present to you the uh transportation safety action plan. [0:12:01, 0:12:11]: Um the joint city and county county plan was adopted by the county earlier this month, and so we're hoping to be able to present it to you all today so it can be adopted. Um ASAP. [0:12:13, 0:12:26]: And so just a quick overview of what my presentation will be like for you today. I'm going to give a uh quick bit of background information on what the plan is, what the funding source for the plan is, um what the goals of the plan are. [0:12:26, 0:12:31]: and kind of what we've been able to accomplish in the year-long timeline it's taken to develop the plan. [0:12:32, 0:12:42]: And then I'll go into the analysis, the robust analysis that was done um to develop this plan, including safety analysis, demographic analysis, and public engagement. [0:12:42, 0:12:53]: And then finally, I'll present to you the three types of recommendations that were developed as part of this plan that also include recommendations that are specific to the city of Stockbridge. [0:12:55, 0:13:15]: So this plan was developed under a Safe Streets for All um grant award given to the county in two thousand twenty three. The purpose of the Safe Streets for All grant is to allow municipalities to develop plans towards reducing um traffic crashes and traffic uh deaths from traffic crashes. [0:13:15, 0:13:18]: Towards a goal of achieving uh zero. [0:13:19, 0:13:39]: hopefully in the long run, traffic uh deaths called Vision Zero, or some sort of significant decrease in the amount of traffic fatalities and traffic deaths. And so it's done in two parts, the first part being a commitment to a significant reduction. And so I'll tell you about Henry County's commitment later on during my presentation. [0:13:39, 0:13:45]: and then also adoption of a plan, which is what I am presenting you today to be adopted. [0:13:47, 0:14:07]: And so this plan was developed by the county with partnership with the cities. And the vision of the plan is that Henry County and the cities of Hampton, Locust Grove, McDonough, and Stockbridge are committed to improving mobility and reducing fatalities and serious injuries for all modes of transportation and all community members. And the plan has four goals, which are to promote. [0:14:07, 0:14:19]: a culture that prioritizes safety, increase the use of non-automobile modes, improve the maintenance of roadways and facilities, and identify improvements that can be implemented quickly to improve safety in the county. [0:14:21, 0:14:35]: Um, the plan was kicked off about a year ago, last October, and throughout the year-long process that it's taken to develop and adopt, we have done four public engagement events. We have met four times with stakeholders all over Henry County. [0:14:35, 0:14:48]: Um, we were here back in April at the Jazz in the Park event in Ellenwood. Um, and then we also did robust analysis and presented several times to the Henry County Board of Commissioners as well as different representatives from the city. [0:14:50, 0:15:00]: Um so just a overview of the analysis that was conducted as part of this plan and please if you have any questions while I am presenting, please feel free and stop me to stop me and ask. [0:15:01, 0:15:21]: Um, so we did a pretty robust safety analysis to develop this plan, and basically what we did is we pulled five years of crash data from uh GDOT's uh data repository and looked at it both in terms of statistics and spatially to see where our crash is happening, but also how are they? [0:15:21, 0:15:41]: Happening and what kinds of crashes are happening. And so you'll notice that of all of the incorporated municipalities, Stockbridge has the second highest number of crashes. And its number of fatal and serious injury crashes is also the second highest out of all of the incorporated municipalities. [0:15:40, 0:15:43]: So uh [0:15:43, 0:15:54]: Car crashes are um a s big safety issue in transportation here. And so it's important to identify where those are happening and what we can do to prevent or reduce loss of life. [0:15:57, 0:16:17]: And so based on those data that we pulled, we also did some spatial analysis. And so one part of the safety action plan development is developing something we call a high injury network, and that is a federal standard. And the point a point of the high injury network is to identify what parts of the roadways. So this is [0:16:17, 0:16:37]: Across Henry County, what roadways and what parts of roadways are we seeing the most of these fatal and serious injury crashes? And so based on this high injury network, what we did is we developed something we call a high-risk network, and this was an additional analysis in addition to the high injury network analysis that looks at [0:16:37, 0:16:50]: roads that are similar to the roads where crashes occur. So it's kind of like, well, do they have s the same number of lanes? Is the speed limit the same? Are they in the same types of neighborhoods? And how [0:16:51, 0:16:56]: Um, do they compare to the roads in the high uh injury network, and what can we do? [0:16:56, 0:16:58]: To try and be proactive and we [0:16:58, 0:17:05]: uh even though there's not crashes happening there now, how can we pro be proactive and make sure that there won't be crashes happening there in the future? [0:17:06, 0:17:17]: We also did a demographic analysis to see what types of people and what kinds of neighborhoods are being affected the most by crashes. And you can kind of see how both how [0:17:17, 0:17:31]: crashes are clustered and how they cluster kind of with those darker neighborhoods that are dem uh areas of higher demographic need. Um and the demographic need was assessed based on income, race, and ethnicity. [0:17:31, 0:17:51]: And then we also looked at specifically the types of crashes that are affecting areas with high with different demographic needs. And so unsurprisingly, vehicle crashes were affecting all areas of demographic need the most. But what is surprising is that for pedestrians, fatal and serious injury crashes were occurring. [0:17:51, 0:18:00]: Occurring in areas of high demographic needs. So places where we are seeing a higher concentration of maybe low-income individuals or [0:18:00, 0:18:08]: Individuals from uh diverse backgrounds, they are facing um more uh ha higher crash risk if they are walking along the street. [0:18:11, 0:18:31]: We also did very, very robust public engagement. The public engagement um we did three in-person public engagement events. I myself was down here back in April at Jazz in the Park, um, and we uh engaged over 300 or about 300 people face to face across the county, and over 700 people um [0:18:31, 0:18:35]: Ам онлайн трюар серве анлайн трю соціаль медіа. [0:18:36, 0:18:52]: And we got a lot of great feedback during that process. So we wanted to make sure that we were taking everyone's feedback into into heart and incorporating it into our plan. And so I'm really proud to say that this plan has included a lot of feedback from the public and a lot of input from different members of the community towards its development. [0:18:54, 0:19:09]: So um now that I've kind of given you an overview of the analysis we did and the work that was put into this plan, I am going to present to you the recommendations of this plan, which are the things that are probably most pertinent to you and your constituents to kind of see like, okay, well, you did all this work. [0:19:09, 0:19:15]: Um what what do we where do we go from now and what do we do now? And so um [0:19:16, 0:19:31]: We came up with three different groups of recommendations and so um the main purpose of the Safe Streets for All program is to help cities and uh different municipalities identify um [0:19:31, 0:19:47]: safety actionable safety improvements to their roadways. And so once we have this plan adopted and once we have like a list of things that could be implemented to improve safety, then the city can go and say like, hey, we have this plan, we have these ideas that we want to do to improve safety. [0:19:47, 0:19:57]: Can federal government, can you please give us some money to help us uh implement these ideas? And so what we've done to help you guys do that is we've come up with um [0:19:57, 0:19:59]: What we like to call uh [0:20:00, 0:20:05]: Пріорі коридор за езпрі, содер е зампле. [0:20:05, 0:20:25]: Of what a safety improvement could look like. And the way we determine these priority corridors is by looking at what is the locally owned road. So, what road does the city of Stockbridge have authority to develop without state or county assistance that has the highest number of fatal and serious injury crimes? [0:20:25, 0:20:40]: Crashes in the jurisdiction. And so for a city of Stockbridge, we identified the stretch of Patrick Henry that runs parallel to I-75 and crosses across Eagles Landing Parkway. [0:20:40, 0:20:40]: Um [0:20:41, 0:20:46]: And there's a lot of different types of land uses on that road. There's a lot of different intersections. There's a lot of unprotected turns. [0:20:47, 0:20:50]: Um some segments of it have sidewalk and some segments of it don't. [0:20:50, 0:21:00]: And so um we kind of use that as an example to say these are the types of interventions that you can implement into a road like Patrick Henry. [0:21:01, 0:21:21]: And to see like a significant improvement in transportation safety. So there's a lot of recommendations, and I'm not gonna go through every single one of them, but some of them include closing gaps in the sidewalk network so people can walk from the different neighborhoods that are along that road to the different businesses and commercial centers that exist. [0:21:21, 0:21:40]: look reevaluating the speed limit on that road and seeing uh is this a road where we can slow people down or maybe kind of add some different elements to the street so that it this it feels a little bit safer. And then also looking at things like traffic signal timing and making sure if there are um [0:21:41, 0:21:53]: places where there's a lot of pedestrians walking from place to place that they're giving pri they're given priority at the traffic signals so that they can f safely cross the street without having to worry about um cars coming. [0:21:53, 0:22:05]: And so that is the exemplary corridor that we developed. And the next part of the engineering recommendations that we've created for you is a safety countermeasures toolkit. [0:22:05, 0:22:18]: So all the different types of things that can be applied in different categories to improve safety along corridors throughout the county. And so there are things like lowering the speed limit and um [0:22:19, 0:22:39]: making ADA ramps more accessible in the county and raising the crosswalks and fixing sidewalk connections and adding speed tables and um a big one that was called out by a lot of the residents in um the community was uh pedestrian lighting and making the roads [0:22:39, 0:22:45]: more well lit, especially in the roads that are like a little bit more rural and a little bit more um [0:22:45, 0:22:50]: a little less bright and more uh shaded and have more trees. People were really um [0:22:51, 0:23:07]: interested in improving the lighting conditions in a lot of roads. And so that's one of our recommendations included in this toolkit. So we've prepared for you this toolkit and I'll give you a couple of examples of what the toolkit recommendations look like and you can see the whole toolkit and the entire plan. [0:23:08, 0:23:10]: Um but basically we kind of [0:23:11, 0:23:31]: Pulled in all the different types of interventions and we made sure to tailor them to what the county can use and what is specific for the county. So things that can be created quickly, things that can be done within a reasonable budget and a reasonable amount of time. Um, and then give give a little bit of background information on how to go about implementing them, where to implement them, and um [0:23:31, 0:23:36]: what you need to do to be able to prioritize these interventions. And so um [0:23:38, 0:23:58]: The final piece of this plan is a set of policy recommendations. The first one and the most important one being the moving towards zero policy, which is that crash reduction goal that I talked to y'all about earlier in this presentation. And so Henry County, along with uh stakeholders in the county. [0:23:58, 0:24:00]: County and leadership from um [0:24:01, 0:24:21]: Representatives from the different municipalities decided that because the county is growing, we're seeing a lot of people moving into Henry County and we're seeing a lot more traffic and a lot more development. Um, then a a full reduction of crashes is of crash fatalities is just not feasible or affordable to do in a reasonable [0:24:21, 0:24:33]: span of time. So the county opted to set an ambitious reduction goal of 65%. So we want to see um A, that trend of increasing crashes to start decreasing. [0:24:33, 0:24:50]: And be that number to go below sixty-five percent of what that number is right now. And so um the goal the county had was to reach that by the end of twenty fifteen. And that um policy was adopted September third of this month. [0:24:51, 0:25:11]: And then along with the moving towards zero policy, we have four different policy recommendations for the county. The first one being a complete streets policy. Henry County has adopted this complete streets policy and encourages municipalities to look into it and do the same. The county has a template if the municipalities are interested. [0:25:11, 0:25:16]: in um looking to looking at it for guidance or um using it as a reference. [0:25:17, 0:25:28]: Um we also recommend updating the city and county unified land development codes to explicitly mention and prioritize safety in transportation. [0:25:29, 0:25:39]: Um we recommend working to look at the freight network and maybe develop like a freight transportation safety plan and finally to improve [0:25:39, 0:25:45]: Um, first responder coordination practices so making sure that EMS, police, [0:25:47, 0:25:59]: uh news media, anyone who's there at the site of a crash kind of knows how to address and react to the crash in a way that improves the health and safety of the overall community. [0:26:00, 0:26:05]: I know that was a mouthful. I really appreciate y'all sitting and listening to me. I have um [0:26:05, 0:26:16]: the information for my project manager and um Sam Baker, who is leading this at the county level in case y'all want to email them with any questions, but I'm also answer here to answer your questions today. [0:26:16, 0:26:36]: I appreciate your briefing. A couple of things that come to mind you you mentioned that uh about uh pedestrians on sidewalks and obviously to me and you mentioned it's one of the recommendations that and we're looking along those lines of increasing the sidewalk network and pathways within the community itself, curb and gutter to help people stay on the on the right path and not into the street. [0:26:36, 0:26:56]: streets in this aspect to keep'em away from getting hit by cars or things of this nature as well. And of course if you even go down Rock Croix Road right now, you see that we're looking at expanding it already. It's already the meet. So I would think that as we expand that that the the sideway excuse me, the sidewalk network would be really inclusive in a sense and and uh be able to help out protect people in that aspect as well. [0:26:56, 0:27:12]: Um and all I'll um let's see here. Uh traffic supports timing and lights, lighting, all those type of things both taken into recommendation and incense and see how we can fund that. I'm gonna stop at that point and I want [0:27:12, 0:27:16]: I I'm gonna turn over to Mr. Alexander'cause I'm pretty sure he wants to talk about Patrick Henry. [0:27:16, 0:27:36]: I appreciate that. No problem. Certainly. Patrick Henry, that's a that's an awesome, that's a corridor that we look to have some amazing things happen. So keying in on that, I think that certainly would be a joint county and city project that we could move forward. But the news is good because uh we got some development coming. [0:27:36, 0:27:56]: coming there and in the city, that just like in the county, we require ten foot multi use pass when constructing new development. So some of those gaps in the sidewalk, there's two construction projects, three of them matter of fact, two city and one county in place. Uh the senior home [0:27:56, 0:28:16]: retirement community is the county project and then we have a uh gated community coming out Holloway Road and Patrick Henry uh as well that will have a ten foot path connecting to the encompass. Uh excuse me. The encompass already has a sidewalk next to it. So that will d definitely [0:28:16, 0:28:36]: be connected and on the other side of the road there is a mixed use development that's going to uh be starting construction very soon that will be able to connect to the senior housing community that the county uh completed. So those sidewalk networks certainly will be able to be closed as far as that is concerned. [0:28:36, 0:28:56]: We have some additional development coming at Country Club Drive and Patrick Henry, where there will be a four-way intersection there. And it will help with traffic combing because there will be a traffic signal that is uh there with the new hotels that'll be coming uh to that particular area. So uh [0:28:56, 0:29:16]: We've been kinda operating on the complete streets model because the complete street model includes pretty much everything we've been doing. It includes the path, it includes the street lights, it includes the beautification. So certainly we've been trying to ac you know, going down that mode, actually requiring them. I'm not sure, I'm not sure whether we passed a policy or not. [0:29:16, 0:29:36]: not, but it sure would be good to have the model policy to take a look at because that's how we've been operating with every uh project, including the uh sidewalks and the mobility issues. So that certainly would uh uh benefit us in having a cohesive policy connection with the county in and making these [0:29:36, 0:29:56]: particular projects happen. It's interesting again, certainly I had Clayton Cart. He was at my town hall and we were talking about certain corridors like this one. And he certainly did mention in the current SLOST we have a design for Patrick Henry [0:29:56, 0:30:16]: Parkway widening project in there and Jodico Road as well and several others. So it's good that the team in Splost and the County Transportation were being very proactive and understanding where we were going and putting this plan probably helped them to uh identify the areas that needed to be completed. [0:30:16, 0:30:36]: But uh we're hopefully we're well on our way and certainly encourage uh the partnership uh to continue because we know Patrick Henry Parkway is going to be super busy in certain areas uh we know in the city, like Flippin' Road, certainly needs to be widened. Walt Stevens needs to probably need to be. [0:30:36, 0:30:56]: be widened so as well. So because everybody knows that shortcut. Jump off at exit 228 and navigate the Spear Road and Walt Stevens and flipping. Certainly it would just seem that we would identify those to for the transportation improvements to continue going. And as the mayor close our close by saying as the mayor indicated, we were [0:30:56, 0:31:16]: Very proactive, especially in the Rock Quarry Road widening, showing up to the G Dot town halls and saying, We want paths. We don't just want sidewalks, we want paths too. We see you give those paths to the neighborhoods on the north side of the city. But it seems like we get a little cheated when they come to those projects. But they finally heard us, and now every project. [0:31:16, 0:31:26]: project that they complete, like the Highway 20 project, every time I drive by it in McDonough, you can see that uh ten foot path going right along it and it looks amazing. Thank you. [0:31:26, 0:31:28]: Yeah of course. [0:31:29, 0:31:49]: Again, thank you for this presentation. I'm I'm really super excited about what you have shared with us tonight. Uh specifically because the bulk of what you have shared uh runs through the heart of District 3 and Stockbridge, uh right on the Rock Court Corridor, which is uh the the primary space for our medical gateway right here at the uh Henry Middle. [0:31:49, 0:32:09]: medical and peat bond. And so uh I think that's a a well well placed, well strateg strategized um place to start this uh transportation plan. And so it it really uh beckons that um we will really see this as a as a needed needed uh support and needed partnership as we uh [0:32:09, 0:32:29]: Uh have really three districts that that share the Rock Quarry Road Patrick Henry corridor. I know uh Councilwoman Barber will share her sentiments and a few moments about um her her district in and and and and and the uh aspects that it will connect, bring connectivity for her as well in her district. But I'm I'm super excited because [0:32:29, 0:32:30]: Because we have [0:32:31, 0:32:51]: Yes, the medical gateway there. But then we also have some opportunities and potentials with the trails as well, with a large piece of nature preserve right there, right behind my subdivision on uh that goes between Rock Quarry and Eagles Landing Parkway. And the uh the the trails would be a added aspect of that that would kinda uh enhance and and and [0:32:51, 0:33:11]: And and pretty much give us a opportunity to to partner and do some things in that in that area. But then when we talk about just m moving it along with with all of the other uh residents that that connect, when we talk about Banks Road and we talk about Red Oak and we go all the way up to forty two, uh this is this is just a um a wonderful [0:33:11, 0:33:30]: wonderful earful to hear that the county is is uh uh willing to invest this into Stockbridge and uh I think as much needed uh as we do grow and we do see uh, you know, population growth and and development growth in our area. I'm super proud to be a part of it. And so at at that point, that's I just wanna say thank you. Thank you. [0:33:30, 0:33:31]: Ms. Barber, you have any comments? [0:33:33, 0:33:38]: Wanted to I wanted to ask about that table you shared. Yeah, which one? The priority corridor. [0:33:40, 0:33:43]: This one? Yes. The eighth most [0:33:43, 0:33:47]: Crashes there. Where was that data reported? [0:33:48, 0:33:51]: I'm sorry, could you read it? The data that you have there, the number of crashes. [0:33:52, 0:34:09]: Um what as in what it what is it and where or is it? Okay, so this is from time period. Yes. So this is from twenty thousand nineteen to twenty twenty three, which were the previous complete five years of crash data prior to starting plant development.'Cause we started in the middle of twenty twenty four. [0:34:09, 0:34:13]: Thank you. That was the only question I had. Thank you for the presentation. Yeah, great. Thank you. [0:34:15, 0:34:22]: No other questions? So I would imagine you don't need an accent for m for us this time. Mr. Dessert, you need to come up, Ms. Aaron? [0:34:31, 0:34:37]: We're just asking Mayor and Council to adopt the resolution that Henry County and the rest of the municipalities have adopted. [0:34:37, 0:34:51]: Okay, so you need a motion for that then to join in okay Mayor. Yes, sir. So move. Sir second? Ms. Barber second that from Mr. Alezander, Ms. Barber. All in favor, please indicate. Okay, unanimous decision. Thank you. You have it. Thank you very much. Appreciate you being here. [0:34:53, 0:35:01]: Next presentation, drone delivery services in Stockbridge, Georgia, connecting the future. Mr. Anderson, it has your name here, sir, please. [0:35:02, 0:35:02]: Yeah. [0:35:05, 0:35:18]: Good evening. We'll we'll have um Wings and Walmart um come up and give a presentation on uh the proposed drone delivery um project in the city of Stockbridge. Okay. So they'll be coming. [0:35:19, 0:35:22]: Okay, m uh Mr. Edmondson, you're here, you you have something to add, sir, this time? [0:35:23, 0:35:43]: Yeah, I just wanted to kind of give a quick uh overview uh how this kind of came to be. Uh Walmart uh reached out to us uh about this particular opportunity. Um we had heard about it before uh and wanted to learn more about it as we sat through the meeting and and and heard about the different things that this particular [0:35:43, 0:36:03]: Project brings to the city, we thought it was quite interesting. So we definitely wanted to bring it to your attention: kind of some of the ideas they have. Um, we always looking for ways to make us more uh accessibility to our residents uh regarding uh access to products and services and anything to put us forward thinking we thought would be a good. [0:36:03, 0:36:20]: addition to the CDF stockbridge. So we're excited about you guys hearing more about uh this this particular project because this is definitely the future and where to go. And I was just blown away by the safety record because that was one of my biggest takeaways was the safety uh [0:36:20, 0:36:36]: concerns about this particular project and I was just blown away by the safety and uh the reviews um across the country for this particular project. So we're extremely excited to hear uh for you guys to learn more about this particular project and and and have your questions and go from there. So uh [0:36:37, 0:36:57]: Welcome. If I if I could real quick Mr. Anderson, you come up real quick. And maybe Mr. Emerson, you can stand there too. Certainly ask. Now in our conversation'cause I had called and kinda asked about this, basically I think Ryan, you made it clear certainly that this basically it was really num [0:36:57, 0:37:17]: regulated by federal and that's kind of what it is. And basically we're our ask is not an real approval, but to just kinda understand what's coming to the city and to partner with them. Yes sir. We'll be up uh on item number seven to give a presentation on our regulations that we did and [0:37:17, 0:37:23]: consultation with the city manager on on regulating this process in the city of Stockbridge. Right, thank you. [0:37:48, 0:37:50]: Okay, so it's a click of it. Okay. [0:37:53, 0:37:54]: Yeah. [0:37:58, 0:38:18]: So uh good evening. Thank you for having us here, Mr. Mayor, members of council. My name is Glenn Wilkins. I'm the Director of Public Affairs and Government Relations for Walmart. Um I just wanted to uh do a quick introduction of you know how we got here, how Walmart got into this business. I'm I'm sure you all know Walmart. Uh we've been in Stockbridge in Henry County for a long time. Uh [0:38:18, 0:38:38]: Uh we've enjoyed our relationship with you all and so thank you for that as well. Um as at Walmart, uh one of the things that I've learned over the past 21 years working for Walmart uh in retail, you have to know what the customer wants before the customer knows that they want it. Right. I go back to uh a perfect example is Amazon. [0:38:38, 0:38:58]: Amazon Prime. We never knew we wanted Prime until they said, Oh, we can deliver this to your house in two days or less. Son of a gun, if that wasn't right. You know, we didn't even know we wanted. Now we wonder how we live without it. So as Walmart delivered, you know, worked on that as well as how do we deliver to the customer? We had a Walmart pickup. We decided we could do the shopping, we could have uh the customer. [0:38:58, 0:39:18]: Customers queued up, they can come and park in their space, stagger that out, bring the groceries to them directly. They don't have to get out of the car, make it more convenient, make it hopefully a better shopping experience. As we move from uh pickup, we moved to Walmart Delivery. That took off well, but really what kicked that off was unfortunately was COVID. But people really did enjoy [0:39:18, 0:39:38]: Having their products delivered to their home. So as we worked through the Walmart delivery side, we started looking for the next thing, obviously, drones. We were having a conversation with staff earlier about um, we always talked about it, right? You know, we sort of joked about it, delivery this, that, and the other. Well, here we are at this day. Um, I also [0:39:38, 0:39:58]: would do like to say that the expectations from our customers are that we are providing them with the newest way of receiving their product. Um I tell people I come from, I'm a Gen X, I come from I I call it the Microwave Society, right? I get that hot pocket, I put it in the microwave. Three minutes later I'm burning the top of my mouth. Things are good. [0:39:58, 0:40:18]: You know, and I'm moving along. My kids are Gen Z. They're 23, 24, and they're of a five-gig society. They open it up, they hit the buy button, and they expect it on the front porch almost instantaneously. Well, it's not only the Gen X, my father, who's 84. Uh, he does all of his ordering on Walmart Plus and [0:40:18, 0:40:38]: And he expects it to be delivered as his at his house too. So it really does span a lot of generations. We love being on the front end of it. Uh we're also very, very excited to operate uh as uh Steph said with such a uh a great company that has a great history. So I'm gonna leave it at that and Catherine can tell the story. [0:40:38, 0:40:58]: And we have members um of our team that can answer questions well. So again, thank you very much for spending your time. I have a question of you, sir. Mayor Certainly, I thank you. And certainly for you to actually come into the city to talk to us, certainly is awesome. And certainly that you chose the city of Stockbridge for this particular project is monumental. [0:40:58, 0:41:05]: uh for us as well. Could you talk about the process a little bit of selecting Stockbridge? Sure. So [0:41:06, 0:41:26]: Currently, we're only operating in one city in the nation, Walmart and Wing Partnership. And that's in the North Dallas area, Dallas, Texas. So we've been operating there for the past four years now. Um, have had great success uh you know with Wing and with customers accepting it as well. We decided we wanted to move [0:41:26, 0:41:46]: Into other states. As we did that, we looked at those other cities we wanted to go into. So we selected Houston, Texas, Tampa, Orlando, Charlotte, and Metro Atlanta. In Metro Atlanta, what we did is we looked at one, how the stores were performing, but also how was our Walmart plus customer base? And I don't know if if [0:41:46, 0:42:06]: If y'all are members of Walmart Plus or know about it, but it's like Amazon Prime, you pay uh$95 a year, we deliver to your house for free, you get um uh preferred times to for delivery or pick up whatever you want. So the numbers on that grew and it showed that there was a strong support not only of Walmart customers, Walmart Plus customers, but [0:42:06, 0:42:17]: But the potential and the growth that's going on in this area. So there's a lot of users in this area basically. Okay. Yeah. Great. That's that's awesome. Thank you. Great. Thank you. [0:42:20, 0:42:40]: Good evening, Council members. Um, my name is Catherine Lovett. I am with Wing Aviation. I'm the local policy and community affairs manager for Wing, and I'm based just up the road from you guys in Atlanta, Georgia. Um, I'm also joined here today by my colleague Tariq Rashid. He's our head of flight operations, um, overseeing our flight operations team and [0:42:40, 0:43:00]: And our FA requirements as a company. And then I also have Zenobia Haynes, who is here. She is our permitting manager from Wing. And then we're also joined by Brian Pelham, who is from Atwell, who is the engineering team that supports Walmart for their real estate project. So we've got the full team here for you today to answer any of the questions that you all have about this project. [0:43:01, 0:43:01]: Yes. [0:43:03, 0:43:23]: Is your mic on? Is the green light on? It's on. Yeah, just speaking the mic on. I'll get a little bit closer. Okay, sorry. Um so again, I'm Catherine Lovett, if you couldn't hear me, and I'm with Wing Aviation on the local policy team. Um so we're really excited to talk with you all today about wing drone delivery, and I realize that the [0:43:23, 0:43:28]: video let's see if I click there we uh [0:43:29, 0:43:30]: Okay. [0:43:31, 0:43:33]: It did a pop out, so I don't [0:43:37, 0:43:37]: Go ahead. [0:43:38, 0:43:42]: Just check, we got fiber, it oughta run. [0:43:43, 0:43:50]: So it's in that it's switched to YouTube. Since it's Yeah, so it's is there a way to switch over to that? [0:43:51, 0:43:52]: Okay. [0:44:00, 0:44:00]: Sure. [0:44:07, 0:44:27]: Yep, that's great. We don't need the sound. Um, so this video that you all are seeing now is showing you the Walmart Super Center in Texas. Um, and I'll pause here just a little bit so that you have some reference as we're talking today on what I ref what I mean when I refer to a nest N E S T. Um so this store is our [0:44:27, 0:44:45]: one of our first locations in the state of Texas, we again part started partnering with Walmart and Frisco, Texas, which is about 30 miles north of downtown Dallas. As you see here, we started with Walmart Supercenters and we're doing the same as we come to the state of Georgia for the metro area, which would include the city of Stockbridge. [0:44:45, 0:45:05]: The fenced in area that you all see at each site for our Walmart partnerships are what we call a nest in EST. They are used to house our drones. You'll see that inside of that fenced in area we have 18 drones and 18 charge pads. Each drone has a pad that they're tied to, and we'll talk about that more in the presentation. [0:45:05, 0:45:11]: But I just want you all to remember that as we go into the presentation and talk a little bit more about the Stockbridge store. [0:45:11, 0:45:31]: Now, for the uh Walmart customers here in Stockbridge, they would be able to place an order in the Wing app. There's a full catalog of thousands of items that have already been pre-weighed and vetted specifically for drone delivery. At the store, once your order is placed, it will get assigned to a drone, and then the order gets loaded on. [0:45:31, 0:45:51]: Onto the drone as you see here. The drone was hovering at about 20 feet in the air and is now going to climb up to a cruising altitude of about 165 to 200 feet, and then it takes off at a speed of about 65 miles an hour to get to your home. When it arrives at the resident's home, you will see here in the video that it never lands on the ground. [0:45:51, 0:46:03]: comes down from that 200 foot height to about 20 feet where it's going to hover as you see there. It gently unhooks the package using a little bit of gravity. You have been tracking the order in your app. [0:46:04, 0:46:20]: You know when to come outside to receive it. The drone will then return back to its nest at the store. And then as you see here, it will slowly lower and it's going to l land on its assigned charging pad to recharge for the next order. Um so let me see if I can. [0:46:24, 0:46:28]: Sorry, I'm not familiar with teams. Okay, there we go. [0:46:29, 0:46:30]: And then here. [0:46:30, 0:46:42]: And this video is available online currently. Yes. [0:46:46, 0:46:47]: Alright. [0:46:49, 0:46:56]: Sorry about that. Okay, so um this image here shows you all, and we'll jump ahead again. [0:46:58, 0:47:18]: There we go. Shows you a close-up of the aircraft that you all see here today in front of you. So this is our 7,000 model. This is the actual drone that you all saw in the video and would see here in the city of Stockbridge. We are an OEM, which means that we are the original equipment manufacturer at Wing. We started back in 2012 as a company in. [0:47:18, 0:47:38]: Google and then in 2018 became an Alphabet subsidiary. So as part of that process, we not only design and manufacture our drones, but we also operate them as well. So everything that you see here on this drone has been built by a fantastic team of aerospace, mechanical, software, engineers within Wing, and then we [0:47:38, 0:47:58]: Roll these out to each of our store locations that you all will see in Stockbridge. The drone itself only weighs 11 pounds, and as you see here in front of you, it's literally wrapped in styrofoam. It's designed to be lightweight and low impact. The drone also is all electric, so there's no concerns about CO2 emissions. And then we've even built this. [0:47:58, 0:48:18]: Is the aircraft to really focus on safety for residential communities. So, for example, the propellers that you see on the top of the aircraft have been built out into quadrants. If one or two propellers goes down, the aircraft is still able to stay in the air. Similarly, on the base of the aircraft, during that delivery process, you all saw the tether that. [0:48:18, 0:48:28]: that the drone was lowered down on. So if you can see here at the base of the drone, you see that little yellow dot. That's what we call a pill. So that's where the tether is housed on the drone. [0:48:28, 0:48:48]: So, as part of our safety features, if during the delivery process that tether gets snagged on a tree or a bush, or if Ms. Wilson's dog runs out from next door and tries to grab on that tether on the drone, anything that pulls on that more than once, it will simply detach the tether from the drone. So the drone stays in the air at that 24th. [0:48:48, 0:49:03]: foot height safely and then the tether just softly floats to the ground. So we've built all of that again to be really intentional about making sure that we're not only keeping the drone safe, but keeping your residents safe and residents safe in every city where we operate. [0:49:03, 0:49:23]: Another thing to note is that the package weight capacity is about two and a half pounds. And then the drone, the range, the maximum range one way from a Walmart store location is six miles. Now, when we launch operations at a site, we will typically start at about a four-mile radius from the store location. [0:49:23, 0:49:37]: to make sure that we're doing proper flight validations and testing. And then as we grow the surface, we can expand that range as needed. And then lastly, as mentioned, the speed for the drone gets up to 65 miles an hour. [0:49:38, 0:49:58]: In addition to our safety features on the aircraft, we at Wing are federally regulated through the FAA, the Federal Aviation Administration. We are certified as a Part 135 air carrier and we're rated for package delivery similar to other commercial carriers, like you know, if you heard of UPS or FedEx. Now for us at Wing. [0:49:58, 0:50:18]: Wing, we are focused only on drone aviation and drone delivery for small packages. So we're not going to replace your full grocery order with that two and a half pounds. It really is again for those small items. Another thing to note, as you see here on this map, the purple circle in the center is what we call the mode C veil. So that's [0:50:17, 0:50:37]: That's the 30 aeronautical miles that surrounds the Atlanta Metro region, which includes the city of Stockbridge. Now you'll notice on this map that there are some red areas that are kind of shaded in. The one you probably notice that covers East Point, that is, of course, the Atlanta International Airport. So as part of our FAA regulations, we, for example, always stay below a [0:50:37, 0:50:57]: Threshold of 400 feet, anything above that height is considered commercial airspace. So we're making sure as part of our regulations that we don't enter commercial airspace where Delta and other airlines fly. We also make sure that we're setting up barriers or geo-restrictions for the aircrafts so they're not entering any of those airspace areas for municipal airports. [0:50:57, 0:51:07]: International airports, as well as things like Dobbins Air Force Base. And all of that, again, falls under the guidance and regulatory processes from the FAA. [0:51:07, 0:51:27]: You'll also note as well that we do not operate within three nautical miles of any public use runways or landing areas. So that could include, you know, helipads at a hospital, if the police or fire department, for example, had a drone unit, or if you had a helicopter pad at your municipal building, those type of things we can also. [0:51:27, 0:51:47]: set up similar geofencing around those areas to make sure again that we don't enter that space. Similarly for municipal buildings such as the city hall, prisons, schools, we do not enter that airspace without written permission from the the um sorry we don't deliver to those buildings without written approval from the [0:51:47, 0:52:00]: government. So um for Mayor Ford, if you really wanted to get drone delivery here at City Hall to maybe be able to order lunch, we would work with you to set that up, but we wouldn't automatically do that without the council's approval. [0:52:00, 0:52:20]: Okay. Um another thing to note as part of our FAA regulations is that um the drone here that you see is autonomous, which means that there's no one flying the drone on the back end with like a joystick or anything like that. So what happens is that when that order is placed with the drone, it is then going to get assigned to the drone, and the drone uses those GPS. [0:52:20, 0:52:40]: Coordinates for your address to build out its flight path to and from your home address. Now, with that in mind, we do have on the back of each aircraft, you'll see there's a little antenna that's sticking out. So our drones also have an antenna that supports ADSB software. Basically, what that means is that the drones are able to [0:52:40, 0:53:00]: To squawk out their position so they're visible on radar for other operators. We also have a fantastic team of pilots. They're known as pilots in command, who are FAA certified professionals. They have their Part 107 certification through the FAA that allows them to monitor not only our air. [0:53:00, 0:53:14]: Aircrafts at each store location, but also they oversee the airspace that our drones are moving in. So they're able to monitor for everything from other helicopters to other drone operators. They're also again monitoring that that altitude that the the drones are moving at. [0:53:14, 0:53:22]: Again, all of that making sure that for each store we have a pilot that is monitoring those drones in real time while we operate. [0:53:22, 0:53:42]: Currently, for our operations for our Walmart locations, we only fly during daylight hours. So we currently do not have approvals to fly at night. That could come at some point in the future. But of course, we would make sure that we're communicating that to you all in advance once and if those regulatory processes change. So currently for daylight hours, we know that. [0:53:42, 0:54:02]: daylight savings time is coming up. So right now our our drones are flying until about 7 p it would be flying here in Georgia until let's say about 7 p.m. And then once daylight comes we would shift that back to maybe 6 p.m as the the days start to get darker. So again a lot of our regulatory processes we're really proud of and additional [0:54:02, 0:54:22]: To the safety features that we've built into the aircraft. An additional one that we think is important to note are the optical lenses that are located on the drone. So each drone on the back of the aircraft has black and white lenses that are used for depth perception when they're coming in and out of the nest, and also during that delivery process. [0:54:22, 0:54:42]: At a residential home. So if you remember in the video, the cruising height for the drone is 200 feet. When it arrives at your home, the drone uses those optical lenses to measure the distance from the ground to make sure that it's staying safely at that 20 to 25 foot height and then lower the tether town. So the big thing to note about those lenses. [0:54:42, 0:54:44]: And I can show you where they're located. [0:54:46, 0:54:49]: Here on the drone. Oh my gosh. Okay. [0:54:50, 0:54:50]: [3291.6, 3300.3]: Thank you, Kirk. You'll see that here on the drone, these little circles, those are the lenses that the drone uses. And this is not a real drone that we would have in the store. [0:55:02, 0:55:22]: Assembled for you all to be able to travel. So again, those optical lenses are solely used for nav the navigational or vision awareness for the aircrafts and making sure again that we're keeping that aircraft safe when they're coming into the communities. Now a big thing to note about the cameras on the drone is that there's no audio and there's no live feed. [0:55:21, 0:55:41]: So our pilots who are working remotely cannot physically see you during that delivery process. They're only able to see the airspace that the drone is in at that time, but they can neither hear nor see any of your residents when they're at their homes. So we understand that questions about privacy are always important to every community, and we always like to make sure that as a company, [0:55:41, 0:55:46]: we're very transparent about that for each of our cities that we operate in. [0:55:48, 0:56:08]: Another big question that we get about the drones is the sound profile. So this image here that you're seeing has a few features that I'll call out to you. So again, focusing on Wing and being focused on residential drone delivery, we've really worked with our internal team to make sure that the aircraft blends into traditional. [0:56:08, 0:56:28]: Traditional neighborhood sounds that you would find in a residential community. So you'll see here for the drone at 165 feet, which again is around that cruising altitude for the aircraft. The sound decibels for that are at 56.5. And so you'll see here on this scale that at that cruising height of 165 feet. [0:56:28, 0:56:48]: The sound of the drone is quieter than a microwave in your kitchen. Now, when the profile does increase or that sound profile increases, it's during that delivery process when a drone lowers from that cruising height down to about 20 to 25 feet. And at that height, you'll see here that the sound profile is about 65 decibels, and even at that [0:56:48, 0:57:08]: That height of 23 feet, the drone is still quieter than a sedan that is moving on the street 50 feet away from your house at 40 miles per hour. So we've really worked for many years again since 2018, since we've launched, to make sure that our drones are blending into everyday neighborhood sounds. Now we know for communities, first time. [0:57:08, 0:57:26]: When they're getting drones into the area, you will have some people that are not familiar with the sound. But over time, we've been really proud that the drones have been well received over time once people understand what that noise is. Because it's not something like a a leaf blower or a car. So it's something that sometimes people have to adjust to. [0:57:28, 0:57:48]: Now, for the city of Stockbridge, as you all are thinking, big picture about your residents and how drone delivery can support them. One of my favorite things about working at Wing and our partnership with Walmart is that we've been able to see the benefits that drone delivery can provide to diverse communities. As Glenn mentioned, we have 15 stores and 15 cities in [0:57:48, 0:58:08]: The state of Texas, so at Dallas, Fort Worth, Arlington, and everywhere in between that we've been operating in for Walmart Super Centers. And it's been amazing to see how customers have adopted to using this service to overall improve their quality of life and access to goods and things that they need. Our number two categories of items that people order. [0:58:08, 0:58:28]: Order currently from our stores. The first is fresh food and produce. So blueberries, strawberries, bags of spinach, the pre-made salads, the cups of soup that you can get from the Walmart jelly. And then the second second is over-the-counter medication. So every we as we know we're heading into cold and flu season. You'll have sick kids coming home from school. [0:58:28, 0:58:48]: And so rather than having to drive 15-20 minutes one way just to get to the store for those small items, we're able to get those items to you in under 30 minutes. On average, our customers in Texas are getting their orders depending on how close they live to the store in about 10 to 15 minutes. And I believe as of two weeks ago, we just hit two. [0:58:47, 0:59:07]: 2,000 orders in one day for the DFW area. So that lets you know that we're doing hundreds of orders per store per day for our locations in Texas. We also have seen a really big adoption of our service from the 55 plus community. A lot of those residents are using our service three to four times. [0:59:07, 0:59:21]: times a week because the traffic is stressful, they don't like to drive, some can't drive anymore. And so the drone delivery option has opened up access to them again to the supplies, over-the-counter medications that they need. [0:59:22, 0:59:42]: Now important things to note, we do not deliver prescription medication. Um, so just only over-the-counter items from the Walmart pharmacy. We also do not deliver any flammable liquids or goods, so that can include alcohol, tobacco products, even for example, hand sanitizer, it is flammable, so that would be something [0:59:41, 0:59:58]: That we would not deliver. The important thing to note, however, is that all of the items that would be available for drone delivery have been pre-weighed and vetted. So there's nothing in the catalog that would meet those requirements, such as prescription medication or flammable goods. So you're unable to order them in your cart. [0:59:58, 1:00:18]: Another important thing to note for the convenience process for your residents is when you're placing your order through the app, you are able to select your delivery spot at your home. So for some residents, that could mean their front yard, it could mean your backyard, it varies, but you're able to confirm the delivery spot on where you want the drone to deliver your package at the home. And before you check out, [1:00:18, 1:00:22]: out you're also asked to confirm that that delivery spot is clear of any pets. [1:00:23, 1:00:42]: children, vehicles, and then you're allowed to check out. So we've built a lot of those safety features in, even just to the delivery, the ordering process that customers have found again that makes this process very convenient, helps to keep them safe, keep people off the roads, and helps to reduce the traffic congestion, accidents, and all of those things. [1:00:43, 1:01:03]: So, with that in mind, I wanted to jump in and we can talk about the site specific to the city of Stockbridge. So you'll see here on the screen, if you can remember back to the video, that fenced in area that I referred to as the nest. So this rendering here is showing you what that looks like. So again, there's going uh for the Stockbridge store, we would have 18 drones. [1:01:03, 1:01:23]: And 18 charge pads. We've intentionally set that number because it helps us to support that order volume during business hours. We typically see an uptick in the evenings. We think when people get home and realize they've forgotten pasta sauce or need cold medicine. So the number of drones is intentional to make sure that we can rotate the drones out, allow them to [1:01:23, 1:01:43]: To recharge in between orders. The charge pads as well, and we'll see a close-up of that, helps to make sure that we're not sending out a drone if it needs to recharge. We have enough in rotation to keep the order volume moving. And so again, we often get questions about battery life because we have the charge pads in the nest. [1:01:43, 1:02:03]: And the drones are sitting on those during full operating hours, they are always charging. So we never run into any concerns about a drone's battery dying mid-flight or anything like that. To date, again, Wing as a company has been operating since 2018. And we have been flying in Australia, we've flown in the UK, Finland. [1:02:03, 1:02:13]: Ireland and here in the US and we have an excellent safety record where for all of those communities internationally and here in the US, we have not had any incidences with bodily harm. [1:02:14, 1:02:25]: or head-on collisions with any property, ve homes, or vehicles. So that's something that hopefully gives you all some reassurance for the city of Stockbridge that we are very proud of at Wing as a company. [1:02:27, 1:02:47]: Another concept that we are bringing to Stockbridge that we are really excited about, again, keeping safety at the top of mind is the auto loader. Now, for the Walmart employees that work at the store, they may not have their FAA certification to work inside of the fenced-in area that is the nest. So the autoloader is a concept, and it's the fenced-in area that [1:02:47, 1:03:02]: that you see here that would be set up in the curbside pickup area of the store. So as you all probably know, the Walmart employees who already filled the orders walk out from the store to cars to deliver packages that customers have placed. [1:03:03, 1:03:23]: The same will go for the store with the autoloader, where this fenced-in area will allow the Walmart employees to walk in. They would then load the package here in the middle of what I call the bunny ears on this structure. And this physical- I'm sorry, this physical structure here with the Y arms and this stand, that is the auto loader. [1:03:23, 1:03:43]: Now, the drones, when they fly over from their nest, they are able to then hover and they use those black and white lenses that I showed you on the drone. They use these big QR codes here to identify which auto loader they've been assigned. So the drone you will hover, it finds its assigned auto loader, it then will fly. [1:03:42, 1:04:01]: Above, lower the tether down, it picks up the package and then heads off to your home. So this is a hands-free delivery system to keep your Walmart employees and Stockbridge safe and also make sure that the drones are safe, but still maintaining that goal of getting you your orders in 30 minutes or less. [1:04:02, 1:04:22]: Um, here's a close-up of what the charge pads look like at the store. Um, this here is uh what we call uh the again the charge pads 18 pad nest, and that just is a close-up of that. Um, for those charging pads, we do utilize a battery energy generator to provide power to make sure that the drones have. [1:04:22, 1:04:42]: Have battery life. This generator, important to note, it does not require diesel. It is basically a big battery. So just like the battery packs that you maybe travel with and plug into your phone on the road, it's a very similar concept where this is brought in by a company, it's put into the inside area of the nest, and then it's used to charge the pack. [1:04:42, 1:04:59]: pads, once this generator runs out of battery power itself, it is then swapped out for a new battery. So we've made sure that again, we're using something that has a lightweight footprint for the nest and doesn't require flammable items such as diesel, which is not ideal. [1:05:00, 1:05:20]: Here is a close-up of the fencing that we use at the nest location. This is just showing you a structure that we have in the state of Texas. But the fencing that we use is a black metal-coated fence. It's about eight feet high. We utilize this to make sure for safety reasons that Walmart employees or people at your at the [1:05:20, 1:05:40]: The store are not wandering into the flight area for the drone where the drones operate. And as I mentioned before, this area inside of the fencing, it's an active flight line. So if you think about the tarmac at the international airport where individuals like myself and you may not have FA certification, we would get in trouble walking on the tarmac. The same applies for the fenced-in area. [1:05:40, 1:06:00]: At the nest is that we um want to make sure that we're maintaining all FAA safety requirements inside of that Fit Vincent area. So we utilize this to uh make sure that we're supporting that. Um, if you go to any of our Walmart stores in Texas, you will also see the drones doing um systems checks, just like you would see for an aircraft where they're testing their propellers. And so [1:06:00, 1:06:12]: When they do that, they're hovering at a height of about eight feet. So the fence height is very intentional, as well as the structure of the fence to make sure that we're keeping the drone safe during operating hours. [1:06:12, 1:06:32]: Now for the drone storage, this is the structure that you all will see in here in Stockbridge. And so we call this a drone pod or a kiosk, you may hear that phrase. But it's wood wood construction, and this is solely used for storage of the drones at night. So once we end operations for the day, our technicians that work at the nest will put the drones in. [1:06:32, 1:06:45]: of this, it gets locked up. The Finston area has keypad access as well as cameras for safety reasons. So we make sure that we're keeping the drones safe overnight and then we pull them back out in the morning. [1:06:46, 1:07:06]: And so with that, um I will turn it over to the conceptual site plan. I can pause here. We can if we want to transition after there's any questions about the technology. Well, I'd have some questions actually. I'm pretty sure the rest of the council does as well. First thing you already answered, I was wondering about the weight limit, but it's yes things you said two and a half pounds? Yes, sir. Okay. [1:07:05, 1:07:11]: I might have missed this next question, but may you answer this. In clement weather, high winds and rain, how does this work? [1:07:11, 1:07:17]: So I will have Tariq come up. Again, he's our head of flight operations and so he knows that front ways and backways. [1:07:17, 1:07:37]: All right, go ahead please. So thank you, Mary. So the the the aircraft itself can fly in what we call up to uh heavy rain. Uh in practice. So the we we fly in moderate rain. So it's kind of hard to as a person to gauge that, but we use a meteorological uh equ uh equivalent. Uh if you like are okay if it's raining so so much that [1:07:37, 1:07:57]: you know, you you might be okay like walking to your car without an umbrella. We can fly in that weather. Uh and then we have some certain ceiling and visibility requirements. Uh generally speaking, the weather can be um not great and we can still fly safely. Um the uh the temperature range we we can we usually operate down to freezing temperatures. So if it's zero uh or [1:07:57, 1:08:15]: 32 Fahrenheit or above. And then we can fly basically all the way up to about 104 degrees Fahrenheit as a upper temperature. And then winds, we it's a pretty wide range. You you definitely um the numbers about twenty, fifteen, twenty miles an hour for the winds. Um so pretty, pretty stiff winds and we can still safely operate. [1:08:15, 1:08:35]: How about birds? How do you deal with birds? So birds uh have not they they generally speaking, they don't seem to mind the drone. Uh we've had there's a good video if you Google it on YouTube of a raven in Australia going after a winged drone. The the bird was actually on the the drone's tail and was going after a tail. The drone is [1:08:35, 1:08:51]: uh robust enough and its flight control system is robust enough that it was able to just safely complete its flight even though the bird was was kind of uh attacking it. One way we avoid that is when we know about like nest like especially we have a actually a requirement [1:08:51, 1:09:02]: or certain protected birds that we have to actually stay away from their nesting areas. Otherwise we try to identify where nesting areas may be and stay away from them generally. Otherwise we don't ever seem to have problems with birds. [1:09:03, 1:09:06]: You might have mentioned it so I'm uh so I've got to reach back and maybe catch this. [1:09:07, 1:09:11]: For per delivery, what's the cost factor to the individual that you're delivering a package to? [1:09:12, 1:09:32]: So that's a two-part question. I can also have Glenn come back up. So to launch the service, we will be launching in the Wing app. And so for the Wing app, um you can go to your Google Play or your Apple store. There's no upfront cost for delivery for that when we launch the service here in Stockbridge. And then at some point it will trans over transition over to the Walmart. [1:09:32, 1:09:34]: plus app and I'll let Glenn explain that part of the process. [1:09:36, 1:09:53]: So th right now there is no additional charge to have it delivered by drone. There is no so there's no delivery charge and there's no upcharge on the merchandise. So if a box of cereal is five dollars in the store, you're charged five dollars to have it delivered to your home. It all remains the same. [1:09:54, 1:10:00]: All right. I got plenty of questions, but I'll open it up. If if you're willing to take questions now, no, I'm w open up to the council. [1:10:02, 1:10:03]: Okay. [1:10:04, 1:10:04]: This way? [1:10:05, 1:10:25]: I had the one. Go ahead, please. What what is the no what what type of product, most popular product you see the drone is actually carrying from? Because two and a half pounds is not a lot. And yeah, talking about Walmart, you go in there and you want to buy everything. So Yeah, so we have people who order everything from rotisserie chickens that when we started out that was [1:10:25, 1:10:45]: That was a very popular item. We have people that again order from the produce side. So everything from those market salads on the Walmart side, fresh produce like cartons of blueberries, strawberries, bags of spinach. Then we also see people who just order candy and PowerAid and you know some of those small things. And then we also have heard from customers who ordered [1:10:44, 1:10:47]: order one off things. So I met um [1:10:47, 1:10:57]: She was actually sit a council member in Texas and uh was at home with her family during the final four and was making guacamole and realized she was out of avocados and so ordered a bag of avocados or [1:10:58, 1:11:18]: I've met a very nice woman who was her first time going out since having her baby and had girls' night. She ordered a tube of mascara. So it really is, you'll see customers are ordering a little bit of everything. We also have a fantastic couple that ordered with us for years during COVID. They're called the Since Myers. They're in their 80s. And so when the pandemic [1:11:18, 1:11:21]: Mrs. Since Meyer was caregiver to her husband. [1:11:21, 1:11:41]: And didn't want to go out. And so they started ordering their morning coffee and having it delivered by drone. So you'll see that a lot of people, depending on what their needs are, are using it for those small things, even back to school supplies, um, cat food, you'll find, you know, um band-aids, baby food. So all of those different items are available in the catalog. [1:11:41, 1:12:01]: And and and I'll add this as well is that if there is an order that goes over that limit, as you look, if you've ordered from Walmart Plus, it'll say do you want a pickup, do you want it delivery? We will have that button then where it is for drone delivery. If you go over that, then the recommendation will come back. We're happy to deliver by car if you would like. So if they even if they try and game the [1:12:01, 1:12:18]: the system and do ten separate orders. You know, there are times that they'll have to wait in between that and then we make that recommendation. They might get two or three and says, It looks like you might want to order more than, you know, we can deliver that way. So we will continue to deliver just through different formats. Is that a guy sir? [1:12:18, 1:12:30]: Yeah, let me just say this. See, as the crow flies, I need six miles. Because the four miles are not gonna get me, okay?'Cause I'm in Jotoko Road, exit two twenty-two. [1:12:30, 1:12:50]: This is exit two twenty eight. That's it. But as the crow flies, a six mile might actually get me in there. I certainly would like to be one of the users. You know, stockbridge has a lot of land mass as we go from exit two twenty eight to exit two twenty two. So hopefully that four mile limit won't be long. [1:12:50, 1:13:10]: Right. Hudson Bridge is actually closer to me, but I think of course you using North Henry Boulevard at this uh present time. Yeah, so um what we are working on um is that our team when we I'm sorry, when we set up operations will come in once we've confirmed that the city does want to move forward with drone delivery. Um [1:13:10, 1:13:30]: Tariq's team, they'll do we have a team, a part of our flight operations team that will do an assessment of the store area. For that area, we're gonna be looking at all of the single-family properties that are eligible for delivery, and they'll identify those as part of the process and build that out. As Tariq referenced before, we do make sure, for example, like [1:13:30, 1:13:50]: Nature preserves or any wildlife parks. We're looking for those type of things. As I mentioned, hospitals, municipal buildings. So we'll build that out once we get a little bit closer, working with the review process with the city to then map out what that area would look like for delivery. Now, beyond the six miles, we are working on a new [1:13:50, 1:14:10]: Um roll out for a new drone. It's the 8,000 model drone. So imagine this drone here, but twice the size. It'll also have bigger propellers. The weight capacity for that will be five pounds, which is so you'll be able to fly further and get bigger packages with that drone. So we don't have a confirmation on when that will be rolling out, but I just want to assure [1:14:10, 1:14:17]: assure you that we are definitely working to get um the drones out further to get more people drone delivery that want it. [1:14:17, 1:14:24]: Okay, the next thing I will say, obviously Walmart's are doing a great job with diversity. Looks like Wing's very diverse too. [1:14:25, 1:14:45]: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We have a fantastic team of um engineers, coders. Uh I'm on the government affairs team. Tariq has a background in aviation. We also have um pilots, our pilots as well come from military backgrounds, commercial pilot backgrounds. So we're it's we're a unique company in that we're now [1:14:45, 1:14:54]: not just for a delivery or, you know, package delivery company, we also are an aviation company and we balance that kind of unique world as a company, which is pretty cool. [1:14:54, 1:14:57]: Well it's it's just good to see that, so certainly we appreciate it. Yes, sir. [1:14:58, 1:15:18]: Go ahead, sir. I I have a question when it comes to like a lot of our neighborhoods have a robust tree coverage area, uh especially around the front doors and stuff like that. So how would even with the uh the tethering and and the drop, how would it handle, say, a home that has a lot of limbs that that overarches the access? [1:15:18, 1:15:20]: access point for the drop. [1:15:20, 1:15:40]: So the the first thing we do is uh we have a uh detailed surveys. So we are we actually able to automatically see where there's clear areas. So the first thing that happens is like we don't even place a delivery zone unless pre-surveys have determined that there's a clear area. We need about maybe six foot radius, so maybe like a twelve yeah, something maybe like l twice. [1:15:40, 1:16:00]: the size of that table maybe. And then as long as there's a clear column that the drone can come down in, it can come down. Even if, like, for example, let's say you're in somebody's driveway, they they did have a clear area and they happen to park their car there. As long as there's a little bit of room to the side, the drone can actually detect that there's a car there and and shift to the side and they can deliver the package. [1:16:00, 1:16:01]: Next to the car. [1:16:01, 1:16:08]: So we don't need a lot of room, but uh we do need some clear area, like some vertical area down all the way down to the ground that doesn't have any obstructions. [1:16:09, 1:16:29]: Am I to assume that the sensors actually sense electrical lines and poles like this as well? Yeah, they can detect power lines, uh trees, tree limbs, etc. So basically, uh as long as there's a limit to how far it'll it'll shift to the side because we don't want to shift to the side into something else. So the the drone, if so hypothetically, it's coming. [1:16:29, 1:16:30]: Coming down. [1:16:30, 1:16:36]: And there happens to be like a a tree limb or some power line sticking uh near the the delivery zone. [1:16:36, 1:16:39]: drone will detect that and it'll shift to the side a little bit. [1:16:39, 1:16:57]: Uh, and then as long as there's still sufficient clear area beneath it, it'll go ahead and complete the delivery. Otherwise it'll actually abort the delivery and just climb climb up and then return to the water. I'm also assuming as it's flying to its destination, I guess it's the sensors. Yeah, moving forward, whatever the case the sensors must pick up where the lines are and poles and things of that nature as well. [1:16:58, 1:17:03]: Yeah, so for so so for that that what I was describing only applies to like the the last delivery phase for forward flight. [1:17:04, 1:17:15]: Wing actually does several layers of of preparation beforehand. We actually do uh LIDAR surveys of all of our intended service areas. And so we have detailed depth maps. So we [1:17:15, 1:17:18]: Beforehand, we know where the power lines are, where the trees are. [1:17:18, 1:17:22]: And we actually that data goes into our flight planning system. [1:17:22, 1:17:33]: And the flight planner actually plans the route so that it's clear of all those obstacles. Uh the only thing that like the if there's a a transi, like if somebody puts up a uh like a telescoping crane. [1:17:33, 1:17:34]: Like over a building. [1:17:35, 1:17:38]: That's not in our planning system, but the way we handle that is that we fly [1:17:38, 1:17:44]: minimum distances above buildings. We s we essentially stay at least fifty s fifty feet or so above any building. [1:17:44, 1:17:54]: Uh and then also uh we monitor for that kind of activity. But the the short answer is that we we have data, it goes into the planner and the planner automatically plans around those power lines and such. [1:17:55, 1:17:56]: Any other questions? [1:17:56, 1:18:16]: Okay, so you wanted to continue on with presentation then? Um yes. Uh so what we're seeing here on the screen is the proposed conceptual plan for the fenced in area that is the nest. So here is the front of the store. Um you'll see this red area here and here. Um so this is just the inset showing you a close up. [1:18:16, 1:18:36]: Um, so this is the fenced-in area that again is referred to as the nest that would house the 18 drones and the charge pads, plus that kiosk or the drone pod that would store the drones. That drone pod goes inside of the fenced-in area with that generator. And then over here on this side, on the south um east side. [1:18:36, 1:18:56]: Side of the store and this inset here. You'll see. So these are those curbside pickup parking spots for the Walmart customers. And you'll see this green dotted line here is where the Walmart staff already walks out to fill the orders here. So we're putting that auto loader to the side here, making sure that it's not blocking. [1:18:56, 1:19:16]: This drive aisle to the parking um to the loading dock for the 18-wheelers. And so the Walmart staff would be able to stay safe out of traffic, load the packages here. The drones would fly then, once the order has been assigned from the nest over to this auto loader, it picks up the package hands-free, and then it heads off to the [1:19:16, 1:19:18]: Yeah. [1:19:18, 1:19:38]: As I mentioned before, we do hire locally. So part of our process for each of our store locations is that we also make sure we're hiring FAA Part 107 technicians to support the nest. So we are actively look starting to look for and posting positions for the Atlanta metro area, which I am super excited about. [1:19:38, 1:19:58]: out to make sure that we have again proper technicians and support on the ground here locally that will be able to support your store for the aircraft maintenance and also make maintaining the interior operations of that nest area, which again is this red area here. So happy to answer any questions that y'all may have about the setup. [1:19:58, 1:20:18]: I'm pretty sure we all appreciate the presentation. I guess in a sense, uh maybe I'm uh dumbfounded here. What do you specifically need from us tonight in this aspect? Do I don't know if I need any type of legal opinion on this? I think from the team, um from your leadership team, um we were here to make sure that you all had the information that you all needed, not just about the [1:20:18, 1:20:38]: The drone technology, but also understanding our operations for both Wing and Walmart. And then I believe the planning department was going to offer some additional context on their recommendations. We met with them maybe four weeks, three weeks ago, to provide this same presentation and to also review this site plan. So next steps would be recommending. [1:20:38, 1:20:58]: Recommendations from the city on how to properly permit the site. As mentioned for the nest setup that you see, we're bringing in the fencing that the again that black metal-coated fencing that's simply bolted into the parking lot. We don't do we try to avoid any land disturbance. Similarly, for the autoloader area, that also has. [1:20:58, 1:21:18]: has fencing around it and then we load in and erect those two structures for the package loading. So from there, that's where we're looking for your guidance on for the fencing, the generator as well as for the drone pod or the kiosk to store the lock, the drones, your guidance, I guess, also for [1:21:18, 1:21:38]: From the planning department on how best to do that to make sure that we are compliant with all ordinances and requirements for the city of Stockton. Mr. Alexander, I mean Alison, I'm sorry. Anderson. Ryan, I'm sorry. Okay. Ryan, come see. Thank you all so much for your time. Well, yeah, no problem. Thank you. Don't go, don't go away now. Okay. Don't go away. All right. So she just spoke. [1:21:38, 1:21:54]: So I mean what what do you what are you gonna do? We're coming up on item number seven on the agenda to give a um overview of our draft um regulations pertaining to drone delivery. Okay. That's coming up later on the in the agenda. Okay. All right. All right. So you all any any count you got any more questions for them at all? [1:21:55, 1:22:02]: No no we're good. Well, we'll talk about it further in item number seven. But thank you for your presentation. Appreciate you. Thank you very much. Uh huh. All right. Good deal. [1:22:05, 1:22:25]: Uh drone okay back up forward. Where are you? Okay. New business council consideration to approve the annual contract. Okay. RFP two zero two five-0006. On call, water and sewer, emergency operational repair, maintenance, and construction services. Uh to provide [1:22:24, 1:22:27]: professional pipeline, primary site engineering, secondary [1:22:28, 1:22:33]: an amount of four hundred thousand dollars from FY twenty twenty-six stormwater budget. [1:22:33, 1:22:53]: Contract to begin January first, 2026 and account numbers 510-4250-542-515 Stormwater Repair. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. We come before you tonight to ask for your approval or of our annual on-call utility contractor for the past eight years. [1:22:53, 1:23:13]: We employed that service, which has been very beneficial to us. They repaired some major water leaks for us, made some stormwater repairs. And like a lot of utilities in the area, Henry County and Clayton County Water Authority uses on-call utility contractors because they have access to equipment and supplies. [1:23:13, 1:23:33]: That we might not have during normal business hours. And this pro this was bidded out site was our previous vendor. So this was recently bidded out. And this time we're going with two vendors in case one is on someone is unavailable. We'll have another one that we can call. And we're just asking you to approve. [1:23:33, 1:23:42]: to uh this vendor, which is professional pipeline, as our primary vendor and site engineering as our secondary vendor. [1:23:43, 1:24:03]: Okay. Questions? Clarify. Go ahead, sir. So this wasn't or you said eight years and then you said there was a recent bid so when was it the last time that's been contract was bidding? It's been bidded out several times since I've been here for eight years, but I was saying for eight years we've employed the services of an on-call utility contractor. Right. [1:24:03, 1:24:10]: When was the last time this was bidded out this year? Uh let me go through my documents. [1:24:15, 1:24:22]: Uh it was the it was open on May first, twenty twenty five and closed on June first, twenty twenty five. [1:24:22, 1:24:32]: And both of these individual comp d you said there's two companies were selected? Yes, sir. Okay, so these were the two companies that were selected? Yes, sir. Okay. [1:24:34, 1:24:37]: Anybody got any other questions? Go right, please. [1:24:38, 1:24:45]: Mr. Aaron, is the cost proposal included here? That's exhibit I. I didn't see it. [1:24:46, 1:24:54]: I see the scoring sheets, but I don't see the cost proposal or fee schedule or price list. [1:24:55, 1:25:03]: And the reason why I asked for those is because just to put it in the record, just in case if there is any contract disputes or [1:25:04, 1:25:08]: price discrepancies, that kind of thing. So that's why I look for [1:25:09, 1:25:12]: The cost proposal or fee schedule or price listing. [1:25:13, 1:25:20]: I can get that information and submit it to you from procurement, but I didn't have it as part of the packet that they provided to us. [1:25:20, 1:25:22]: We just have the scoring sheets. [1:25:22, 1:25:32]: Okay, so I know that during the um evaluation process or even after the evaluation committee makes their recommendation, um [1:25:34, 1:25:41]: They typically provide copies of the cost proposal, so you didn't get it. [1:25:41, 1:25:45]: No ma'am. Okay. Okay. Well thank you, sir. [1:25:47, 1:25:58]: But there were only two that submitted and we were choosing two, so based on the proposal, both of them were chosen. So where did you um get the four hundred thousand? Is that a not to exceed amount? [1:25:59, 1:26:19]: Yes, ma'am. And the reason why we do that because if there's an emergency that far exceeds like if we did it for a hundred thousand, then we would have to come back before you to get it ratified. But we typically stay under this budget. We just want to have it available in case like if a water bane broke on North Henry Boulevard, it's gonna get. [1:26:19, 1:26:20]: It to be expensive. [1:26:21, 1:26:32]: Yeah, I get that. I was just curious about the pricing. Yep. And they normally have fixed pricing. Um and that would be included in the cost proposal. But thank you, sir. [1:26:35, 1:26:36]: Any questions from the council? [1:26:37, 1:26:41]: Well if that's not no k no questions, I need a motion to uh accept this, approve it. [1:26:42, 1:27:01]: Uh Mayor, I move that we um approve the annual contract RP twenty twenty five zero zero six um board and own call board on sewer emergency operational maintenance construction services to professional pipeline primary and site engineering secondary in the amount of four hundred thousand dollars. [1:27:02, 1:27:05]: Certainly. Okay, Mr. Dallas and a second that all in fair please indicate. [1:27:06, 1:27:15]: Pose? I will abstain, sir, and I'd like to add a comment if I can. All right, so uh one second before you do that. So three zero and one, it passes. What's your comment, please? [1:27:16, 1:27:22]: Okay. I'm abstaining because the recommended awardees cost proposals [1:27:22, 1:27:25]: Or their fee schedule or price schedules. [1:27:25, 1:27:26]: Are not included. [1:27:27, 1:27:28]: In the packet. [1:27:28, 1:27:31]: I look for the price schedule or [1:27:32, 1:27:35]: price sheet or s fee schedules. [1:27:35, 1:27:37]: А за вай трюмент. [1:27:38, 1:27:39]: Um what their fix. [1:27:39, 1:27:44]: pricings are. Just in case if there's any contract disputes or [1:27:44, 1:27:48]: invoice discrepancies, we will know what that is, but we don't have it. [1:27:49, 1:27:52]: Mr. Aaron has provided a not to exceed amount [1:27:53, 1:28:00]: for this contract award, but it's just not enough for me to make a decision. So thank you. That's it. [1:28:03, 1:28:23]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, um there's been a recommendation uh t made to me that we take text amendment, which is item number seven involving the drone delivery facilities and move it up to to discuss it now. And that way if that's if that's the case you agree to that. That way we don't leave we don't have these uh ladies and gentlemen waiting to retire uh [1:28:23, 1:28:37]: meeting for that discussion. So is there a motion to move the text amendment to deal in drone deliveries to handle that now at this point? Yes. Seconds. Okay. From Mr Barrett and Mr. Alexander all in favor? Indicate? [1:28:38, 1:28:40]: Because you now see okay. [1:28:40, 1:28:42]: Uh Mr. Anderson, so what we got here, we got text amendment. [1:28:43, 1:28:46]: Case TX two zero two five dash zero three first reading [1:28:47, 1:29:02]: Citywide consideration of text amendment to the Unified Development Code UDC to allow and provide regulations for the use of drone delivery facilities and services by businesses with approved special use permit. Mr. Anderson, please. Yes, sir. Uh [1:29:02, 1:29:17]: Mayor, this is um is is a draft presentation um um to give city council an opportunity to um address any concerns they may have to make changes. We hope to get this adopted on the thirteenth city regular city council meeting. [1:29:19, 1:29:19]: Okay. [1:29:25, 1:29:44]: So here's a timeline. We met with um with Wing and Walmart in July twenty twenty five. Um so we also we had a pre-application meeting, but we don't have we didn't have really have a formal process. Um so at after that first meeting in July, um the city manager um [1:29:44, 1:30:04]: Mr. Anderson. Yes, sir. With all due respect, is it necessary for them to have to come back? I mean, honestly, because in the regulation, I mean, what do we know about drone delivery? I mean it's going to be something that the experts have put together. They've been doing this all over the world. So why would it mean we [1:30:04, 1:30:12]: We're gonna make the council gonna make some suggestion for them to change it. No, sir, Councilman Alexander, but there's still some regulatory processes. [1:30:12, 1:30:32]: that the city put in place. So we wanna make sure that council is satisfied with that. So for instance, they'll be placed on our regulatory business list and they'll have t uh to apply for a special administrative permit, go to a special administrative permit process, uh after review from the community development department and final approval by the city manager. I just wanna brief you guys [1:30:32, 1:30:47]: on that process, but it's governed by the FFA and it's and there's no need to go through the public hearing process, but we still need to adopt these regulations so we can charge our fees. Well I'm saying uh our appro our part, what is it that we're having to do is having to wait. [1:30:47, 1:31:07]: But the city council has to do we have you have to grant the city manager authority to approve these to approve um the fees, to charge the special administrative permit fee and place the uh drone delivery on our regulatory business listing. What what's keeping us from doing that tonight? You don't want to hear the presentation. I mean you can do it tonight. I mean [1:31:07, 1:31:13]: I'm just saying I don't know what's gonna come back. We just had a a presentation that lasted about an hour. [1:31:13, 1:31:33]: Well, I can go through this in three, four minutes. So i it isn't it it won't take long, but I would suggest we at least go through the presentation. Well, I wanna I wanna go through the presentation. I just wanna know I I just I wanna I just wanted to understand whether or not we could vote tonight versus seven. Yes, sir. You can vote tonight if you want. If somebody makes a motion. Okay, well we'll s we'll see. Thank you. [1:31:33, 1:31:34]: Okay. Um [1:31:35, 1:31:41]: Let me speed through this. So we'll be amending um I certainly want to hear the presentation. Okay. Uh so we'll be amending um [1:31:42, 1:31:54]: Title nine of the Unified Development Code Licensings and Regulations. I shall be amended to add a new section called nine point one one six entitled Drone Delivery Services, which shall read as provided in the [1:31:55, 1:32:15]: An attached exhibit uh that we will provide in the with the ordinance, approval to am amend you the UDC Title 12, title chapter three, use regulations to include a new section 3.2 point four two entitled drone delivery services, and also approval to create an administrative special. [1:32:15, 1:32:35]: Use permit and it's an administrative special use permit process is hereby created for the purpose of reviewing and improving drone delivery services within the city of Stockbridge. Uh here's a definition of drone delivery. So you the previous present presenter um provided information on that. So this is the zoning. [1:32:35, 1:32:55]: Use regulations chart. So uh drone delivery will be allowed in C2, C3, LI, and HI with a special administrative permit signed by the city manager. Um these are the the use standards for the commercial drone delivery. We're just basically placing um [1:32:55, 1:33:03]: Some design criteria on that on that nest which she described in the earlier pr presentation to make it acceptable to our um design guidelines and criteria. [1:33:07, 1:33:18]: Since this is um regulated by the FAA, there's no need to of taking this through the special uh use permit process, the public hearing process, or the normal zoning process. [1:33:20, 1:33:29]: So uh the applicant the the previous presenter presented on um no as restrictions. We basically adopting things that they had in their proposal. [1:33:30, 1:33:50]: So have you heard all that? So um security they they will be required to have a a flock camera for 24 hour monitoring and they already stated that they would operating hours. We're proposing 7 a.m. to 8 p.m. But um since they're proposing that they might do um night delivery, we might uh amend that process. [1:33:50, 1:33:54]: process to go up to maybe um twelve at night or something like that. [1:33:56, 1:34:03]: Uh and basically pr the permitting process, drone delivery shall be permissible by a special administrative permit. [1:34:06, 1:34:18]: Um so the city manager wanted us to uh come up with a fast and efficient process of approving these um special administrative permits for drone delivery and uh that's what we did. [1:34:19, 1:34:25]: So the process will be like um the community development uh department will review [1:34:25, 1:34:29]: the um the applications and all the information contained within the application. [1:34:29, 1:34:35]: And we will make a recommendation to the city manager and then the city manager will be the ultimate um deciding factor. [1:34:37, 1:34:57]: Application requirements must be submitted by the property owners, submitted to the community development department, special administrative use for me, special administrative permit fee of$600, a regulatory fee is fifteen hundred dollars, must include a site plan, operational details, and also we're requiring two public meetings in the impacted area. [1:34:57, 1:35:17]: wings will have to come out and present um maybe two meetings to um the affected target area. I mean they have a six-mile delivery radius so we want them to touch as many homes uh within that six mile radius just to let them know um about the the drone delivery program. Community department [1:35:17, 1:35:22]: Community development department shall review and recommend to the city manager. The city manager has the final approving authority. [1:35:25, 1:35:25]: So [1:35:26, 1:35:27]: That's it. [1:35:27, 1:35:47]: Well I I have some clarification. Night delivery. I thought what I heard is that normally it goes to seven PM but they based on um the daylight savings time it may change. Um but uh so I my I wanna get clarification on that because I thought uh you mentioned, sir, something about night time. So I just wasn't sure if you clarification on that. Well the [1:35:47, 1:35:52]: young lady said that they may in the future okay have the nighttime delivery so [1:35:53, 1:35:59]: Uh we just wanna extend that delivery time from from eight PM to maybe twelve PM to the hours to operating hours of the store. [1:36:00, 1:36:02]: So that would be the only change to this presentation. [1:36:02, 1:36:17]: Okay, which means w it has to be in in the actual regulatory guidance in the as well. Yes, sir. We just so be so when we m when we uh when we write up the ordinance we'll include that. We'll have we'll set the times and the final. All right. So be Yes, ma'am. [1:36:23, 1:36:38]: Yes, daylight saving times. I mean like eight PM is usually when it gets dark and daylight saving time. So but she's I'm just saying in the future she stated that they may do night delivery, which means like ten or eleven o'clock it'll get it's get dark during daylight savings time. [1:36:39, 1:36:53]: So but right now we don't have to do that, but I'm just saying in the future if they want to move to um nighttime delivery, that means we'll have to come back before you to get this orders amended. So I just want to include it in now, just in case to future proof it. [1:36:54, 1:36:54]: Yeah. [1:36:55, 1:36:59]: Question down here? I'm I'm sorry, I'm sorry you got I'm sorry, go ahead. [1:37:00, 1:37:10]: The renewal process. Yeah. So if it's a if it's a regulatory business within the city of Stockbridge, it would have to be renewed annually. Okay. Yes. Thank you. All right. [1:37:12, 1:37:13]: Any questions on this way? [1:37:13, 1:37:33]: Yes, certainly uh thank you for that. And um you're putting everything together. So pretty much basically uh there will be a special permit as you've indicated. Special administrative permit. Special administrative permit. So basically you would be able to uh make sure that that happens. Yes, sir. Um on your end. Yes. This ordinance will grant us a authority to [1:37:33, 1:37:39]: To issue a special administrative permit. Uh the community development department will review the application and make sure they [1:37:39, 1:37:59]: are in compliance with all our regulations and then we'll make a recommendation to the city manager. The city manager is the ultimate is the ultimate decision maker on this process. And then you'll be bringing you were you was wanting to uh the regulation would be it just it wouldn't just be for them, it would just be pretty much for everybody. Anybody like say for instance anybody coming from UPS, Amazon [1:37:59, 1:38:19]: Anybody that wants to do drone delivery in the city of Stockbridge, they will have to comply with this ordinance. Okay, so subsequently that they would not have to come back. We would just need to vote. Yes. Okay, certainly. And during that time they would be able to work through the process. Yes, sir. Maybe have the community meetings and everything in anticipation, no. [1:38:19, 1:38:30]: that that was coming. Yes. Uh to be able to have that happen. So simultaneously as we make that approval, then they would be able to uh basically be ready to go. [1:38:31, 1:38:41]: Are you talking about what they have to after we adopt this ordinance, they won't have to come back to city council anymore. It will be handled by the community development department in tandem with the c with the city manager. [1:38:41, 1:39:01]: Right, that's what I'm saying. I mean in terms of you know w at this point what will basically have to happen is th you would administratively be able to do that. Yes. But in the meantime they will be able to go ahead and move forward with setting everything up and all of that. And then you before they got their basically C O or operation then [1:39:01, 1:39:06]: Everything would be passed by us. Yes, yes, sir. Okay. So [1:39:06, 1:39:09]: Mr. Emerson, you you wanna ch you wanna chime in? [1:39:09, 1:39:11]: Oh Mr you have something, Mr. Edmondson as well? [1:39:13, 1:39:14]: All right. [1:39:16, 1:39:36]: I think I think he covered it uh pretty well. Um and to your question, uh Councilmember Alexander, yes, uh we'll set up that notification with the community as they go out and talk more about this, similar to the presentation they gave tonight. So while that paperwork kicks uh kicks in, we get it codified, so on so forth. By that time we uh would be uh in position. [1:39:35, 1:39:47]: to go ahead and approve that special use um thing and everything works out. So hopefully have this thing launch sooner than later. That's the that's the that's the plan before the close of the the year. [1:39:47, 1:39:55]: That was my concern. I just didn't want to hold it up right and uh, you know, have them have them make another trip back unnecessarily. Um [1:39:57, 1:40:13]: Okay, so you need a motion for us to move go forward. Yes, sir. Yes sir. Uh one one other question. I don't um I don't know if you know the answer or not. They may have we say we approve this, we go forward, okay? How many other cities actually in in the Atlanta Metro area are doing this? [1:40:13, 1:40:33]: I think Stockbridge will be the first in the in the that's that's what I'm trying to get clarified. We would be first, really. Yes. I'll be darned. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Cool. That's why the city manager wanted us to streamline this process so we can get moving. All right. Well well I tell you what, I need a motion, council. So move. Okay. Is there a second? Um [1:40:33, 1:40:44]: Mayor Flores. Yes ma'am. May I ask that we also include in the condition authorizing them the ability um to deliver to government buildings. She mentioned that. [1:40:45, 1:41:05]: Okay. Okay. We might want we might need a vegetable tray. I don't know. Do we need to bring her back? I don't know. I don't know if we can legally do that or not. Yes. Um she she said in a brief and what would happen is uh we'll just write a letter basically authorizing them that they would it is authorized because what happens is when they pull it up on their map, it'd be geospace. [1:41:05, 1:41:12]: But with that letter, they'll be able to remove that barrier to allow delivery here. [1:41:12, 1:41:31]: Giving authorization to allow delivery to government buildings. Just need to add that. Does it need to be in the motion? We'll we'll we'll modify we'll modify uh the ordinance the ordinance. Yeah, we'll take care of we'll we'll include we'll put that language in the ordinance. [1:41:33, 1:41:39]: Uh so uh you have a question? Before vote I need to disclose Oh yeah, go ahead sir. I'm sorry, go ahead. [1:41:39, 1:41:59]: All right, prior to prior to voting I do need to for the record disclose that uh I am a uh Walmart uh staff member and a stockholder. Oh and so I needed to legally disclose that uh on the refrigeration and facilities maintenance, I our stock owner and employee of Stockbury. So I can't [1:41:59, 1:42:11]: Not stop ri Stop Rich and Walmart. So Okay. Uh so mutual interest. So since you disclose it, does that mean you cannot vote w one way or the other? I need a legal opinion on that, I guess. [1:42:14, 1:42:28]: I had to disclose I'm a Walmart refrigeration tech associate and a stockholder. Oh, who would have known? Small world. Okay. Learn something new. [1:42:29, 1:42:45]: He can vote. He can vote. Yeah. He did okay. She legally you can vote. All right. Okay. It's on the record. You can legally vote as and mess this stu mess this up. So I think it went from you, Alexander, to Mr. Berry the second debt motion, is that correct? [1:42:47, 1:42:58]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. See now it's decision. Congratulations, outstanding. We're gonna be first. Oh my hey, wait, wait, come on now. We're gonna be first, all right? All right. [1:42:58, 1:43:18]: Right. My make my night. Okay. Uh council consideration approved the annual contract RFP two zero two five-004 uh for on call sidewalk repairs and replacement to uh CGS LLC in the amount of three hundred thousand dollars. Funding from uh SPLA six contract to begin one January twenty. [1:43:18, 1:43:20]: twenty twenty six. [1:43:21, 1:43:41]: Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. For the last several years, Public Works has engaged the services of an on-call sidewalk contractor, and we've repaired an average of about a mile, mile and a half of sidewalks throughout the city. So on April 28th, a bid was uh placed for the on-call sidewalk contractor and it [1:43:41, 1:44:01]: Closed on May 29, 2025. We had 10 vendors that submitted proposals for this project. And the evaluation committee evaluated all of the uh proposals, and they recommended that we go with CGSLLC as our annual on-call sidewalk vendor. [1:44:01, 1:44:07]: And we're budgeting three hundred thousand dollars for maintenance and repair of sidewalks throughout the city. [1:44:08, 1:44:12]: Okay. Council, any questions for Mr. Aaron? I do. Yes ma'am, go ahead please. Um [1:44:13, 1:44:23]: Same with this one, Mr. Aaron, the cost proposal um or the fee schedule or price list is not included. But I also noticed the evaluators um [1:44:23, 1:44:35]: All of them are well, except for one. Two um are from public works. Yeah. [1:44:36, 1:44:50]: But I just wanted to note that for the record. Um, I think it's best that when we are scoring these that we include people from other departments. So it's not just one sided. [1:44:54, 1:44:59]: Oh the um exhibit eye, the general concrete [1:44:59, 1:45:00]: Um [1:45:01, 1:45:07]: work or bid form and cost proposal was it included? I am gonna abstain. [1:45:07, 1:45:14]: from voting on this because of that, but also I noticed the evaluators. Um there were six. [1:45:15, 1:45:26]: Six of them and two of them I can't hear were not a member of Public Works. The other four weren't. Can you repeat what you just said? I didn't hear what you said was missing. I can't hear. [1:45:29, 1:45:38]: I noticed with the evaluators of this, um there were six evaluators. Out of the six [1:45:39, 1:45:51]: only two of them were from other departments. The other four were from public works. And I remember a few years ago when I discussed this that [1:45:51, 1:45:59]: And I don't know if it was by resolution or if it got adopted in the procurement policy that we'd make sure that we had a mixture. [1:46:00, 1:46:00]: Um [1:46:01, 1:46:07]: on the evaluation team, we didn't want all of them or the majority of them coming from the [1:46:07, 1:46:09]: their department in which they were. [1:46:09, 1:46:11]: recommending the award. [1:46:11, 1:46:15]: That was the other note that I mentioned. [1:46:17, 1:46:18]: That's all. Thank you. [1:46:19, 1:46:23]: But for questions. Yeah, for clarification. [1:46:23, 1:46:43]: You basically this contract is citywide to repair sidewalks. The cost is basically built in because you have no idea how many sidewalks that they're going to repair. They go out and do the inspections and what have you and uh the cost would be basically whatever [1:46:43, 1:47:03]: They go after they examine the sidewall to determine what needs to be done, right? There's a price sheet, but what we do is budget driven. So it's based on we give the contractor these amount of sidewalls which would add up to that amount,$300,000 or less. Our goal is not to exceed the budget. [1:47:03, 1:47:23]: So it's pretty much budget driven. Our sidewalks repair is gonna be done according to what our budget is. Right. And if you go over that amount, you would have to basically come back to us to ask for a additional amounts. But indeed, you still don't know until they get out there and actually start doing the work what the it what the final cost is gonna be. Yes, sir. [1:47:23, 1:47:43]: So uh is the is the Hudson Bridge sidewalk been fiction? Yes, so that should that's a part of the list. We've got a list, and when this gets approved, we're working on a list already, and it's been approved, and we're just waiting for the vendor to get started for 2025. That has been like six months. [1:47:43, 1:48:03]: Why didn't the other contractor take it? Because GDOT has technically changed the way sidewalks are repaired. And so we've got to comply with that. They're saying if you go in and repair a section, they want you to go in and repair the entire sidewalk. So instead of [1:48:03, 1:48:23]: We're going and do a 10-foot section if the sidewalk is 50 feet. If there's any issues, they want you to replace the whole 50 feet and not just a section that has issues. So we've been working through that new regulation. I can send you a copy of it if you would like. Okay. And in our last meeting, we discussed having an estimate for the issue. [1:48:23, 1:48:28]: East Atlanta Road sidewalk uh project. Has that estimate been completed yet? [1:48:29, 1:48:49]: Yes, sir. I sent it to uh the city manager and Okay of course we didn't have if we did we would not have time to to review it tonight. But you so it has been completed? Yes, sir. We'll we'll present it at the next meeting. So okay, so basically uh in terms of this particular East Atlanta Road project we [1:48:48, 1:49:08]: We would have to identify the funding. Personally, it looks like the funding would be available in splot six when we're collecting splot six, or it would be available for the million dollar bond that we have sitting in the bank for the last three and a half years that we have completed no sidewalks for or trails. So this is a trail project in downtown. [1:49:08, 1:49:14]: And there's a million dollars literally sitting in the bank to do that with and with the council approval. [1:49:16, 1:49:18]: And this and th then my question I'm sorry, excuse me. [1:49:21, 1:49:30]: Now, certainly this is a situation where we should be able to save some money. We know if there's an uh that the own-call sidewalk provider. [1:49:30, 1:49:38]: that we're paying three hundred thousand dollars should be able to uh be might might be able to complete this project. [1:49:38, 1:49:58]: That's what the cost proposal for that sidewalk, the East Atlanta, North Henry, is based on the cost for the on-call sidewalk contractor. So you can have one or two choices, either you bid it out or go with the on-call sidewalk contractor. So that needs to be sent out to everyone. So certainly uh once we take a look at it and then you'll be able to [1:49:58, 1:50:01]: [6602.1, 6605.1]: Yes, sir. We'll have time enough to review it by then. [1:50:05, 1:50:23]: Okay. All right. Well I certainly appreciate that. And that'll that that could be a shovel ready project. And is in terms of what we're doing here to be able to move forward with it. I know the one over uh the model mile trail. Are they gonna be able to compete for that? No or or Pathfinder shouldn't be. [1:50:23, 1:50:43]: I I think Path would be working on that. But one thing we gotta remember too, if you do not wanna get off this, but if you're gonna do that ten foot path, we gotta get those easements. Right, certainly. Okay. Well all right, well that makes sense for us to be able to uh get things done um here around City Hall where we had anticipated [1:50:43, 1:51:01]: using the bond funding in order to do that, but certainly it would need brought to you'll be bringing that to council with the estimate for us to be able to take a look at that and we should assume that the own site contract, on call sidewalk provider would be the one providing the service for us. [1:51:01, 1:51:04]: That's an option if you so choose. [1:51:04, 1:51:10]: Okay. What are the other options? We would bid it out? We'd bid it out. Okay. All right. Well, okay. All right, thank you. [1:51:11, 1:51:21]: Any other questions? Yes ma'am, go ahead please. Mr Aaron, do you have a copy of the price schedule or the price sheet? I can get it from procurement. You don't I don't have it with me. Okay, thank you. [1:51:24, 1:51:28]: Once again, other questions? All right, then I need a motion, please. [1:51:30, 1:51:35]: So move. Is there a second? A second. So Miss Um Miss Alexander and Miss Ken, all fair, please indicate. [1:51:37, 1:51:40]: Okay. You abstain? [1:51:41, 1:51:53]: I will abstain as well and if I can add a comment. Well actually if that's uh two four zero and then two s abstentions, then uh motion fails. Okay. And your comments are? [1:51:55, 1:52:01]: Well I'm I'm a little bit confused. This we we need a sidewalk provider. [1:52:02, 1:52:13]: Mayor Ford, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead, May I ask Mr. Aaron to can you bring this back at the last uh the next meeting and include the price schedule. [1:52:14, 1:52:15]: Um exhibit I [1:52:16, 1:52:18]: Which was the general concrete works bid form. [1:52:19, 1:52:22]: Whether cost proposal and price sheet or fee schedule. [1:52:22, 1:52:26]: And again the reason why I'm asking for the cost proposal or price schedule [1:52:26, 1:52:28]: Is because I want to get it in the record. [1:52:28, 1:52:47]: Just in case if there's any contract disputes or invoice discrepancies on down the line, not saying that there will be, but I just wanted on the record just to have it. Okay, Mayor. Motion to withdraw and uh motion to withdraw and to table this to the next meeting. [1:52:48, 1:53:08]: Okay, is there well first of all? Okay, you can second that. I would just want to make sure you've done with your comments. Okay. Motion to withdraw has been seconded. All right. And before we take the the that the vote, what is your question, ma'am? Uh Miss Barber seconded that motion to withdraw. I have a question in regards to this agenda. [1:53:08, 1:53:09]: [6790.1, 6798.2]: The actual repairs and replacement of sidewalks, it's kinda like you do with the streets. You scale to see which ones are needed. [1:53:18, 1:53:21]: More than and more so than others, correct? [1:53:21, 1:53:22]: Yes, mm. [1:53:22, 1:53:28]: Are you able to get quotes on each individual one at this time or how does that work? [1:53:28, 1:53:35]: Because I mean and so you basically say we have this pool of money and we'll do as many as we can with this pool of money. Is is that what you're saying? [1:53:36, 1:53:56]: So what happens is staff go out and identify the sidewalks that need to be repaired or replaced. And we submit the list to typically Falcon, our on call engineer, and they go out and scale and measure everything, and then they come back and submit it to the on-call contractor based on the unit prices for [1:53:56, 1:54:16]: each of those items, then they generate a cost for each of those repairs. So it might be all of the repairs come up to$200,000 based on what the cost and pay items per item like if you're doing ADA compliance, there's a cost for that. If you're removing tree [1:54:16, 1:54:27]: roofs on their sidewalk, there's a cost for that. If you removing concrete, there's a cost for that. Then there's a cost for the replacement of the concrete. So there are cost items [1:54:28, 1:54:30]: Associated with the project. [1:54:30, 1:54:36]: And do you already have a list of sidewalks that we're doing this year for we have a list already? [1:54:37, 1:54:40]: So you you would be able to get [1:54:40, 1:55:00]: 'Cause I I'm trying to understand what Councilwoman Barber's asking. You would be able to get a price sheet, basically schedule sheet on what those costs are. They are have Falcon already come up with the estimate or scale? I think what she's talking about is the price sheet that they submitted with their bid and saying to replace X amount of [1:55:00, 1:55:20]: Sidewalk, if there's no roots, it's just crack. It would cost this to remove that panel and it would cost this much to pour back the panel. I think that's what she's asking for. But we typically what we're doing is it's based on the budget. Okay, there's$300,000. We go out and they measure. [1:55:20, 1:55:39]: Falcon do and then based on the cost for those repair items, then they generate what the cost is going to be. And they come back to us and say, Okay, it's on their budget or it's over budget. If it's over budget, then we trim some things off and move it to the the next year when we have additional funding. [1:55:39, 1:55:41]: And where is that price sheet? [1:55:42, 1:55:56]: That price sheet, like I said, it was a part of the um bid packet. Okay. But I just the information that was given to me, we didn't have that as a part of the documents that we uploaded. And I'll get that for the next meeting. [1:55:56, 1:56:16]: Okay. Also also when we come back, can we can we get a uh guess a thorough assessment of what side which sidewalks and specifically like how how extensive the damage is at each location? Can we get some type of report out on where we're strategizing the funds and repairs to go [1:56:16, 1:56:34]: So the repairs are based on we had an analysis done of our streets and sidewalks and that's our guiding our guide because we wanted to take subjectivity out of it.'Cause somebody look at something and say, Hey, this needs to be repaired, but based on the evaluation, it doesn't. [1:56:35, 1:56:47]: You know, so we're doing those based on whether it's a trip hazard, mainly whether it's a trip hazard. And that's how we go about deciding. But the sidewalks are chosen based on that evaluation and rating we did just like we do for streets. [1:56:49, 1:56:51]: So they're rated by by staff. [1:56:51, 1:56:56]: No, sir. They're rated by our engineers, went out and and did an evaluation of all the streets and sidewalks in the city. [1:56:57, 1:56:58]: Okay. Yeah, for [1:56:59, 1:57:00]: One second. [1:57:02, 1:57:10]: You good, sir? Good. Okay. Go ahead, please. I wanted to confirm what Mr. Aaron explained about the price sheet. [1:57:10, 1:57:13]: That is correct. That is exactly what I'm looking for. [1:57:14, 1:57:20]: That whole price sheet that you just explained and described. That's why I'm asking for it. Thank you, sir. [1:57:21, 1:57:25]: And the motion was to table this item uh to be brought back to the next meeting. [1:57:26, 1:57:35]: And and Mr. Berry second that Ms. Barber. Ms. Barber second that excuse me. Ms. Barber second that excuse me. Ms. Barber second that so all in favor of motion, please indicate? Now it's decision. Okay, good deal. Thank you. [1:57:36, 1:57:56]: Okay, council consideration is approved the purchase of uh is this phosphorus, C C two zero five zero, remove chemical from the cedar cam in an amount of sixty thousand dollars of funding source from is is from the sewer department budgeted funds. Ms. Aaron, please. Yes, Ms. Mayor. As a part of our wastewater treatment process [1:57:56, 1:58:16]: We have to remove phosphorus and get down to the limit of 0.30 milligrams per liter, according to our permit issued by EPD. And we need some additional chemicals to get us through the end of this year. So we're asking to increase. We have money within the budget, but it exceeds [1:58:16, 1:58:22]: The city manager signed an authority, so we're asking your approval to purchase additional chemicals. [1:58:23, 1:58:30]: Okay, motion. So move. So move. Second. Ms. Barber, second down. All favor, please indicate. [1:58:30, 1:58:39]: Snail decision, okay, fantastic. Thank you, sir. You got a comment? Can I just say that um the sole source was verified? So thank you. Thank you for that. [1:58:41, 1:58:54]: Okay. Next is council thank you, Mr. Aaron. Thank you, sir. Council consideration to fill vacancy downtown development authority board to fill an unexpired term through thirty-one December twenty twenty seven. Miss Sanders, please. [1:59:02, 1:59:03]: Yeah. [1:59:03, 1:59:23]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. The Downtown Development Authority currently has two vacancies on that board. This item this evening that's before you will address at least one of those vacancies. And so uh the recommendation uh that I'm making is that you consider uh Mr. [1:59:23, 1:59:43]: Tariq Collins to fill that vacancy. Uh he is uh he has joined us this evening, and I don't know if you all would like to have him come up and introduce himself or ask him any questions, but he's he's certainly here this evening. Um and so that is that is kind of in the nutshell what this one is all about. Uh we are working with [1:59:43, 2:00:03]: with the DDA board to vet some additional candidates to fill that second vacancy as soon as possible. But at this time uh we have one and this vacancy would fill uh an unexpired term through December 31st of 2022 27. And so [2:00:03, 2:00:10]: Uh if you have any questions, I'll attempt to answer them, but if you'd certainly like to be introduced to him, uh as I said, he's here this evening. [2:00:12, 2:00:19]: Can anybody introduce yourself and tell us about it? Yeah, Miss Carlford's come forward so [2:00:19, 2:00:20]: Like one. [2:00:23, 2:00:24]: I think. [2:00:25, 2:00:33]: I I we uh we usu I thought we had a discussion about this. And I'm I'm excited, but what I'm saying is [2:00:34, 2:00:37]: Uh, we're doing the procedure different from what we normally would do. [2:00:38, 2:00:40]: Okay. [2:00:40, 2:00:45]: Um He just offered, I suppose, and I think that's a good idea. [2:00:45, 2:00:48]: That's not what we normally would do. And we normally just go ahead and vote. [2:00:49, 2:00:55]: Yeah, well we uh some point we used to go into execucession, not that that matters more than we have. [2:00:56, 2:01:00]: opted to require it's highlighted here. We're good. [2:01:01, 2:01:02]: Apparently. [2:01:03, 2:01:15]: It's highlighted that um we we require some type of resume or something. Um and I'm all for I see there is some information up here about [2:01:16, 2:01:17]: Um [2:01:17, 2:01:18]: Uh. [2:01:18, 2:01:21]: business and financial expertise. [2:01:22, 2:01:29]: No no offense to you whatsoever. I I would support the vote. But I think that [2:01:30, 2:01:34]: Oh it is included? Yeah. She just included it in the package. It was said [2:01:34, 2:01:54]: Oh, okay. Well then I'm good. I just want to make sure it's done right because I don't want no problems. For for clarification, uh as you remember that the gentleman is a district five business business owner. So Yeah. Well I I just want to make sure because I don't want any issues and anybody saying that we did one one way and one another. That's the only reason why. [2:01:54, 2:02:01]: I when I looked in the book it wasn't here. That's uh my only reason. But I'm okay as long as it's there. Sure. [2:02:03, 2:02:23]: Uh good evening. I'm Tariq Collins, owner of uh Eagle Financial Group, the accounting firm all over on uh Eagles Landing. Um I've been uh I guess what you want to know about me, military veteran, army vet, uh business owner for some time. Uh we work with other business owners as far [2:02:23, 2:02:28]: as growing their companies from CFO services down to tax prep services. [2:02:28, 2:02:46]: Okay. And uh I've have to admit uh he's been to see me in a couple of times during meet the mayor, so uh excellent candidate. Um I don't vote as a tie, but that's an excellent candidate. I appreciate it. No problem, sir. All right. Um council need a motion, please. Yeah, mayor uh the [2:02:46, 2:02:58]: As the DDA liaison, I'd like I'm sorry. Give me a s say your name one more time. Tariq Collins. I'd like to nominate Tariq Collins as uh downtown development authority member. [2:02:58, 2:03:05]: Okay. Okay, Ms. Alexander, Ms. Gann, all in favor please indicate. Okay, she now succeeds. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. [2:03:06, 2:03:09]: Okay. Uh what is next? [2:03:10, 2:03:20]: Appointment what's next appointment of councilwoman Yolanda Barber to Council Liaison to Stockbridge Main Advisory Main Street Advisory Board through December thirty first, twenty twenty seven. [2:03:20, 2:03:40]: Mayor. Yes. Point of order. What's the point of order? Okay, certainly the issue is this, okay? And before we proceed with this, we already have a representative to the Main Street board that is Councilman Thomas. Councilman Thomas has neither resigned nor [2:03:40, 2:04:00]: Or been re removed from that board position to my knowledge by a vote of this council. So the position is not vacant at this time. I find it highly insensitive and inappropriate to replace a sitting board member who is out because of a medical condition in this state. [2:04:00, 2:04:20]: we appoint the board members in January, which is after the expiration date of Councilman Thomas's term. And I as as someone who has served with him and shoulder to shoulder with him, the least that we could do is to give him a couple more months at the end of his term. [2:04:20, 2:04:40]: Since he's not resigned and this board to for for this board to even consider removing him with two months to go in his term, which his distinguished service to the board would be inappropriate. And if he did tender his resignation in the condition that he's in, I wouldn't as I would not vote to accept it. I would not. [2:04:40, 2:05:00]: Because he has put his time in on that board uh religiously and represented it at every turn. And how we got here is I don't know how we got here because in the end he's still serving. He's still a member of this council. [2:05:00, 2:05:20]: Council. He's still a member of the Main Street Board. He's still an official member of the Stockbridge City Council. And as this is concerned here, I find it objectionable and I find it very insensitive to even consider this nomination at this point. [2:05:19, 2:05:39]: point when councilman thomas has neither signed or been removed. And as I said, even if he did in this current medical state, I wouldn't do it. I would wait to January and I would let the new council make that decision because it was it's the right thing to do. As we journeyed through downtown Stockbridge, we [2:05:39, 2:05:59]: Talked about Councilman Thomas in a heartfelt way as we journeyed through his district and we went to there and we went by his house. And to think of even forcing him out ridiculous. And I and I see it as very insensitive, and just being in a situation where it is about [2:05:59, 2:06:18]: about me. It's not about him and to not be able to wait till his term ends twelve thirty one or twenty twenty five and then say, I want to just do it right now. Therefore this certainly was not brought to the council. Stand by please stand by. As we indicated uh earlier that it requires [2:06:18, 2:06:38]: A count this is a council appointment. And a council appointment requires that we have three members of this board of order agree and uh to the appointment or to accept somebody's resignation and to try to appoint somebody to a position that's not currently open uh i is something. Uh there's [2:06:38, 2:06:58]: That I did. But like I said, I'm going to close by saying: even if he would issue his resignation under the person's person's circumstances, I wouldn't accept it because he only has basically about 90 days left in his term before we appoint a new representative. And with his distinguished service, he decided. [2:06:58, 2:07:02]: Deserves that. Thank you. All right. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:07:02, 2:07:20]: Therefore, I call for a point of order. No, you did. Go ahead. And when I when anyone calls for a point of order, you are to hear acknowledge that. I had called for a point of order. I was doing a point of order, so mine took precedent. Okay and I gave it. Oh, yeah. That's what you were doing. Hold on. I understand what you're talking about, Miss Barber. Go ahead with your comment, please. [2:07:21, 2:07:30]: So when anyone calls for a point of order, sir, you are to hear the point of order. The reason why I asked for a point of order is because [2:07:30, 2:07:38]: Miss Bareed has not even presented the item. I understand. I was I was no good record. I I wanted you to acknowledge the presenter of the item. [2:07:39, 2:07:41]: Sure. She would get a knowledge. I was gonna do that. [2:07:41, 2:07:53]: Will you please allow her to present this item before we totally inappropriate. Hold on. Totally inappropriate and insensitive. Come on. With a current council member, you've already said you already made your comments, so [2:07:54, 2:07:57]: Uh Mr. Reed come forward. And Megan. [2:07:57, 2:08:02]: You're gonna have to make a legal opinion here. I need a legal opinion from you in reference to this. Come make your presentation, please. [2:08:03, 2:08:23]: W before that I asked for the legal call because in essence we're making a presentation which is inappropriate on Councilman Thomas's term. Well hold a second. I I I mentioned that. I don't even want to begin. This is this is such a slap in the face. [2:08:23, 2:08:26]: Hold on. Hold on a second. Stand by. [2:08:26, 2:08:28]: Maybe you got a legal opinion on this at this point. [2:08:32, 2:08:34]: I have just a woman apple here. [2:08:40, 2:08:49]: Okay. If I could have just a moment I'm pulling up the city code, that'll get me to the answer that I'm looking for. All right, in the meantime in the meantime, while you're doing that, make your presentation please. [2:08:50, 2:08:54]: Thank you. [2:08:55, 2:09:15]: Don't want to read let's let her make a presentation. She's making a presentation on a position that's not even open yet. What make her let her make a presentation anyway? Why di if it was you or anybody else, I would not want to hear the presentation until she ruled legally because he still holds the position. It's like we're asking for somebody to be appointed to [2:09:15, 2:09:35]: To his position. How out of order is that? He's still serving. And we're gonna listen to the presentation about somebody replacing him. I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. You want to recess? Is there a segment to recess? Recess. Is there a second to recess? Motion to recess. Okay, is there a motion is there a second to recess? The recess to m the recess when to make [2:09:34, 2:09:39]: Reagan finishes with the legal research on whether this is appropriate or not. [2:09:39, 2:09:40]: Okay. [2:09:40, 2:09:41]: Okay. I can agree to that. [2:09:42, 2:09:53]: Okay. I can second that. I can't. So you you meant just that. Okay, for Mr Alexander to one second. Mr. Alexander and Ms. Gantt a motion to recess. All in favor of recess, please indicate. [2:09:54, 2:10:04]: I say that because we need to know the legal ramifications or even Okay, so so the mo so it or should not hear. We need to know the legal code behind whether or not it's a good idea. All right, so we got three [2:10:05, 2:10:05]: You you [2:10:06, 2:10:26]: I will oppose because we haven't even heard the presentation yet. All right. So three one the motion passed, the have a recess for legal review at this point. Budgeted for two point six and the uh two point six we have received a million and we still have got some um [2:10:27, 2:10:47]: concerts to come, so that will be up to October, then we'll assess how much. But we are half of uh almost closer to half of what we budgeted for. Budget amendment will create out this one when we do budget amendment so that the negatives will go out. We'll transfer money from general fund to make [2:10:47, 2:10:50]: pick it up for the shortfalls in revenues. [2:10:53, 2:10:54]: Okay. [2:10:55, 2:11:15]: I'm moving from revenues if there's any question or comment on revenues. Any questions for revenues at all, council? No, I'm just a little I mean this is the pro this the representation we received at pretty much I mean we reviewed these numbers at the um at the retreat. So just kinda understanding is it just is just a need to just uh [2:11:15, 2:11:25]: Uh this is pretty much what you sent us uh in the email, right? For us, that is correct. And and I added you details. Okay. That is true, yes, exactly. Okay. [2:11:27, 2:11:28]: Okay, go ahead. [2:11:29, 2:11:49]: Then we get into the expenses general fund as you see general fund what we have received and what we have spent. So general fund revenues and general fund expenses are almost the same, fourteen million, fourteen million. However, on revenues there may be fourteen million, but remember that the big chunks of the [2:11:49, 2:12:09]: revenues of general fund we have not yet received. So you have sales tax, we are one month uh behind. Then we have insurance premiums that is the 3.5 million we are yet to receive in November. Then we have property tax about 7.4 million in [2:12:09, 2:12:29]: is yet to be received I think in December. So revenue may be down, but we will catch up as we go receiving those three big uh revenues. That's the premium, insurance, um, sales tax, as well as the property [2:12:29, 2:12:49]: Excuse me. It certainly looks like the T Splash is overperforming with a$5.6 million projection. And we've already collected. That's another one. You see there that on expenses we didn't budget anything, but we have spent money. [2:12:49, 2:12:56]: And those are the things that we'll correct uh we will be correcting through budget amendment. On revenues you see that we have received [2:12:56, 2:13:07]: money on revenues, but on expenses we didn't budget. So we didn't budget revenues and we didn't budget expenses, but we have received and we are spending. [2:13:08, 2:13:10]: Yeah, but certainly we [2:13:10, 2:13:30]: in the past with this particular situation, this is year to date. Yes. We have, you know, I think I think the last count, I think we had maybe fifteen or sixteen million dollars in the account and we received this amount this amount this year. So it certainly is, even though it might be trending that way, we need to get [2:13:30, 2:13:50]: get some of these projects done, which I anticipate we will actually do because we have money in the bank. But uh these numbers can be deceptive because, you know, it looks like again, we're certainly exceeding what the projection was. And then when you look at it year year to date or you look at it year to year, it might look like it's balancing, but in the past, because [2:13:49, 2:13:55]: [8035.7, 8055.7]: Yeah, as we said that the um there were two sets of uh reports that uh were being made and the the reports that were being given to you to make wise decisions were not uh so we misled you, but hopefully these ones I did bring them intentionally. [2:14:15, 2:14:35]: Mm-hmm. So that you can see them when we make budget amendment, all these zeros will be uh will be gone. I just want everybody to know where you're pulling the money from. You're pulling the money from because the money's in the bank. In these various accounts, you will be able to pull the money on the budget transfers because the money has already been collected and to [2:14:35, 2:14:44]: T spliced and splice and splice six. And you're not taking it out of general fund, you're taking that from the balances in these funds, correct? [2:14:44, 2:15:04]: So that of the thirty two that is the highly spoken about these were expenses that were incurred through T S plus majority of them Ts plus Splus five uh Splash T plus Splus five and now we have Splassix. [2:15:04, 2:15:24]: In 2025. So all those expenses had the corresponding revenues. Of course, there were some that we had to transfer money, but the majority of all those expenses were from public works that's to do with the roads paving and many other projects. Citywide projects. [2:15:24, 2:15:36]: projects that were performed and the the budget was zero. OPA funds again, we spent a lot of projects paying for uh [2:15:36, 2:15:56]: Paying for projects in upper funds, it was not budgeted for. So that budget amendment budget amendment was to make the balance, the budget balance or what would have been done originally when the budget was being proved uh provided to you to. [2:15:56, 2:16:00]: to approve it. Unfortunately it was not done. [2:16:00, 2:16:01]: Okay. [2:16:01, 2:16:08]: So every penny of that amendment was balanced with revenues and expenses. [2:16:10, 2:16:21]: Uh water is still the same you find out on the water side. If you go on water sanitation you find out that all expenses are higher than uh revenues. The budgeted [2:16:22, 2:16:23]: Amount. [2:16:24, 2:16:36]: And the expenses are almost closer, but revenues on the page that we just finished are much, much lower. But we'll assess, sit down and see w uh how we can limit on that. [2:16:38, 2:16:47]: That's the summary of um expenses. If there's a question on that one before I get into general summaries. [2:16:49, 2:17:09]: I have a question, well more so a comment. Are these still from the previous administration uh financial director and city manager? The former was this done during that re regime still? Is that what we're doing here? We're still clearing that. [2:17:09, 2:17:10]: Add up. [2:17:11, 2:17:12]: So [2:17:14, 2:17:17]: We are in twenty twenty five budget. [2:17:17, 2:17:19]: Twenty twenty five budget was the [2:17:20, 2:17:40]: prepared last year. Okay. So the first uh correction of twenty twenty five budget will happen when we do our budget amendment on the thirteenth of October. Okay, I gotcha. So it was it was during that administration. Yeah. So what you did was you accepted the audit of twenty twenty four, but from January [2:17:40, 2:17:47]: But the twenty twenty five going forward is what we are trying to for twenty okay. So you're getting us caught up. [2:17:47, 2:17:48]: That's correct. [2:17:48, 2:18:05]: Okay. And in regards to ARPA funds, I saw that it was zero in revenue but there were some expenditures. Can you explain that? Because when we got upper funds, we spent them in general fund. So general fund has to make up for that because we still [2:18:06, 2:18:11]: We have an obligation to finish up our program in twenty twenty six. [2:18:12, 2:18:32]: Okay. And we didn't account it properly and we commingled it in general fund. You put it in you commingled it into general funds. Yeah. That's why it says zero. Which was not the right thing, yes. Okay. Is there a way to separate it? Not at this time. [2:18:32, 2:18:52]: upper projects has to as as you remember we were requested to give back two point two million because we didn't properly account for that. But they they're refunding that back to us, is that correct? No, we are not supposed to give them back because we gave them [2:18:52, 2:19:09]: what they wanted. Okay. We met the uh we complied with what they wanted. So great. So we didn't have to give it back. We didn't have to give back. But the projects, the assigned money has to finish those projects and upper programme is ending twenty twenty six. [2:19:09, 2:19:20]: Right. And it's been my experience, um, for these past going on twelve years that the franchise fees and everything that comes in very late at the end of the year [2:19:21, 2:19:36]: actually catches us up, including splots. It's always two or three million dollars more than what we projected it out to be. Um, but they come in at the very end of the year, um, December, January sometimes,'cause I used to always worry and [2:19:37, 2:19:57]: Um through experience in the past, you you'll see it now at thirty one and then you'll get when what around what time of year does the franchise piece come in? I think it's in is it the end of December? Uh it depends on uh which ones, but uh by the end of the year we should have all of them because like [2:19:57, 2:20:17]: now we already have got impact fees they are already in. Right. So it's a throw out, but there is a specific time when we get more depending on which um impact fees that you are talking about. And just so everyone knows what those franchise fees are, they're like ATT, Georgia Power, different [2:20:17, 2:20:37]: Companies and utilities, they have those fees and assessments, and then they pass that on to the municipality for usage properties. So those uh fees, uh franchise fees are the ones that are levied from companies that are doing businesses in our city. [2:20:37, 2:20:37]: [8437.5, 8439.2]: Correct. Thank you. [2:20:42, 2:20:54]: Um you on the grant side on the revenue grants we have received a lot of grants revenues and most of those grants are almost almost all [2:20:55, 2:21:15]: grants are reimbursable. So we spent money and we are rebersed. And those monies were held up by various federal state agencies because we didn't comply. But after we complied everything, we gave we met all the requirements [2:21:15, 2:21:19]: [8480.0, 8492.3]: they have released those funds and those funds will automatically go to general fund because the general fund is the one that was providing uh those money for grants to to spend. [2:21:32, 2:21:51]: Okay. Is there a reason why we're doing this tonight and not waiting until the franchise fees and the actual depiction of money comes in to show the true budget of expenditures and revenues because it ba eventually balances out? Is there a reason why we're doing the presentation tonight? [2:21:52, 2:22:10]: No the presentation because we have never presented it from oc uh from January actually because we were behind. We had expenses but revenues we we did not. So we didn't want to provide you information that has the limited the uh [2:22:12, 2:22:22]: that did not meet all the requirements. Without bank reconciliation you can't say you are providing repo uh credible reports. But was this not provided to us at the retreat? [2:22:22, 2:22:42]: Retreat was for the next year for for the twenty twenty six budget projecting for twenty twenty six and where we are now. So it was where we are to help us for twenty twenty six budget. But this is a actual reporting of what we have received and what we have [2:22:42, 2:22:45]: have spent as of august thirty first. [2:22:45, 2:23:04]: Okay. I d I didn't know if it was a difference from what was reported. That's why I was asking. Yeah. But I just I I I see that uh so we really wouldn't amend this until those franchise fees and everything come come in first, correct? The amending is mainly to say there are some [2:23:04, 2:23:09]: There are some departments that the twenty twenty five budget didn't [2:23:09, 2:23:12]: The twenty twenty five budget did not balance. [2:23:12, 2:23:23]: Mm-hmm. Because we have some departments that they are short for of uh personnel funding and they will not finish um October if we don't do budget amendment. [2:23:23, 2:23:24]: Okay. [2:23:24, 2:23:35]: For example, one department has got three personnel that there will not be enough to finish there will be no enough w funding in personnel. [2:23:35, 2:23:38]: Because it wasn't budgeted for. It was not budgeted for. [2:23:39, 2:23:55]: I recall that. And there are some department um funds as I've seen you, I've shown you, Splash six, uh T S Plus. We are spending T S Plus, we have money, T S Plus is going on, but there's the zero budget that we budgeted for T S Plus. [2:23:55, 2:24:09]: Right. But those funds are for projects within the city. And we are receiving revenues every month. Right. Okay. Every month okay. That's perfect. I d I just wanted to make sure that it's not something we're just okay, that's good. [2:24:14, 2:24:20]: Any question, any comment on the revenues and expenses and general [2:24:22, 2:24:41]: Financial outrook This is the summary of funds. General fund is one line item on revenue, one line on expenses. Next report will have detailed for every department how much we have spent and on revenues how much we have brought in. [2:24:42, 2:24:47]: And that would be when now next month? On the amendment, no amendment to the budgets next month. [2:24:47, 2:25:01]: Mm budget amendment will be on the thirteenth. Okay. And the financial report for the month of September will be for October. Okay. So we will be having financial reports on a monthly basis. [2:25:01, 2:25:02]: Okay. [2:25:03, 2:25:03]: Good deal. [2:25:05, 2:25:09]: Continue on please. Is that the last slide? [2:25:10, 2:25:13]: Yeah, I say summary, the uh the rest the the the rest is just summary. [2:25:13, 2:25:20]: Okay, I got it. Okay. All right, good deal. And yeah, I was wondering about this. Did you need to go through this at all? [2:25:20, 2:25:25]: Uh I have explained most of those ones in my revenues and expenses. All right, good deal. [2:25:25, 2:25:31]: I'm a little confused, I guess, Mary. I guess we were getting quarterly reports. Now you changed it to monthly. [2:25:31, 2:25:35]: No no no. Quarter reports you get, but you I'll be giving you monthly. [2:25:37, 2:25:51]: Okay, I just thought we were getting quarterly reports so we could kinda'cause sometimes when you're doing month to month, it can throw it off. Just like now. You will see one month that goes way up, then the next month that goes way down. The quarterly report just like they do [2:25:52, 2:25:55]: Вино, сам танно до федерал репорт сняв, і кінсіа тренд. [2:25:55, 2:26:03]: Whereas you give somebody you throw some numbers out there for one month, you might give somebody the wrong picture of what's going on. What is your wish? [2:26:05, 2:26:07]: But you're if you're saying are you saying us you're just emailing them? [2:26:08, 2:26:24]: I'll de update you with the details then monthly. Okay. But if you cancel me. No, no, no, no. But if you feel like that one is too much, still let me know. No no no no it's not email me that's [2:26:25, 2:26:45]: Right, to get the updated thing. I just don't wanna throw information out there where people don't understand because they see something go up and down, they don't understand that the tax money is coming in in November. And they see, oh, all of a sudden this big gap in the budget and then you don't see the revenue understanding that the revenue is gonna come in in November. [2:26:45, 2:26:59]: Yeah, so you will say we have to understand our some of you have to understand when your revenues are coming in, because always expenses will be high and most of the revenues that we have they will come very late. [2:26:59, 2:27:19]: And the even when you are doing audit, they give you three months you can steal because see what we are receiving now sales tax are not for September, they are for August. So what we are receiving now are not w we received last year month, we are not for August, we are for the previous month. And the [2:27:19, 2:27:28]: Insurance premiums will not come until October, mid November. Then we have our [2:27:29, 2:27:32]: Property tax that this year will come [2:27:32, 2:27:33]: Literally. [2:27:34, 2:27:36]: mid or after mid of December. [2:27:38, 2:27:46]: Luckily enough we have we will not make it to go and look for we'll finish a year even if we get late the property taxes. [2:27:47, 2:28:07]: Could I just want to make sure that whatever we received, uh we of course we see that everything and that they were we won't I don't see it and then I see something that catches my attention. I just want to be able to see if I get October, I'd like to have the the this you know the month before you know, a couple months before so I can see the trend. [2:28:07, 2:28:09]: Mm-hmm. [2:28:10, 2:28:10]: Um [2:28:11, 2:28:25]: Revenues, I would like to see the total of revenues from the previous year so that I can kind of scale on what that looks like. Does that make sense? Like I otherwise I won't know. I don't know what our franchise [2:28:26, 2:28:27]: Well last year. [2:28:30, 2:28:44]: is always increased about two to three million more than what we projected it to be. But it's just good to see what those fees are obviously so we can kind of compare of where we are. [2:28:47, 2:28:48]: Any other questions? [2:28:49, 2:28:51]: If not, thank you sir, appreciate it very welcome. [2:28:52, 2:28:56]: All right. On that note, uh Council, we need a motion to go into the second session, please. [2:28:57, 2:28:57]: Sure. [2:28:57, 2:29:03]: But for legal, personnel, real estate and cybersecurity. [2:29:04, 2:29:04]: That made it. [2:29:05, 2:29:11]: Okay. No well actually she says so move, so I second. Okay. Miss Gantt second that. On favor please indicate. [2:29:12, 2:29:16]: We'll be back, ladies and gentlemen. [2:29:47, 2:30:07]: I see I got it. I I I just want to make sure you before I say anything, you're good? You're okay all right. All right, Council, we need to a motion to end our executive session, please. So move for Miss Ms. Barber, Miss Barber, Mr. Um Berry. All in favor in the case. Okay, we s did that now we need a motion to reconvene our city council work session, please. [2:30:07, 2:30:13]: So I'm facing so so for Miss Barber back to um Miss uh Gantt, all favor please indicate [2:30:13, 2:30:26]: And from the executive session, ladies and gentlemen, motion to ad uh journal the second session was a with approval after day with no action. So it's no action that uh we uh need to explain at this time for our executive session. On that note, um [2:30:28, 2:30:48]: Need a motion, uh well actually need a motion to end our mayor. We need a motion to remove item number nine. Right. I'll make a motion to remove item number nine, the appointment of the Main Street Board Member. I make that motion because Councilman Alfonso Thomas still serves in that position and [2:30:48, 2:31:06]: I believe it the right thing to do to allow him to finish that out under the circumstances um and appoint a ha and appoint a new Main Street board member in January at our convening organizing meeting as been the custom uh for the city. Oh is there a second that motion? [2:31:07, 2:31:15]: Mr. uh Mr. Berry, second and most. All in favor, please indicate. One one second. [2:31:15, 2:31:21]: Okay, okay, so I've got three votes for and uh you were uh say no or or abstain? [2:31:22, 2:31:24]: Discussion please. [2:31:24, 2:31:25]: Okay. [2:31:26, 2:31:28]: Well you can have discussion. Okay. We go ahead. [2:31:29, 2:31:29]: Mm. [2:31:29, 2:31:32]: I know that this item was placed on the agenda. [2:31:32, 2:31:35]: At the recommendation of the Main Street Advisory Board. [2:31:36, 2:31:40]: Actually the chair of the Main Street Advisory Board. [2:31:40, 2:31:42]: made a recommendation. [2:31:43, 2:31:43]: Um [2:31:44, 2:31:45]: To appoint me. [2:31:46, 2:31:47]: Yolanda Barber. [2:31:47, 2:31:50]: as a council liaison to the Main Street advisory board. [2:31:51, 2:31:54]: He also recognized all the hard work. Um [2:31:55, 2:32:05]: From Councilman Thomas, his tenure, the respect, the love, everything that he has put into the Main Street Advisory Board over the years. [2:32:05, 2:32:10]: But he also mentioned that the Main Street Advisory Board um had [2:32:11, 2:32:14]: Pretty much come to a crossroads. [2:32:14, 2:32:18]: They wanted or need a council liaison. [2:32:19, 2:32:26]: I am the only member of the council who is not serving on any of our city's boards and committees. [2:32:27, 2:32:28]: Additionally [2:32:30, 2:32:31]: The main street [2:32:32, 2:32:33]: The downtown area. [2:32:33, 2:32:35]: Is in the district. [2:32:35, 2:32:38]: That I am duly elected to represent. [2:32:38, 2:32:39]: I respect [2:32:39, 2:32:41]: The council's decision [2:32:41, 2:32:43]: To table this item. [2:32:43, 2:32:44]: Until the beginning of the year? [2:32:45, 2:32:48]: But I wanted to add those comments for the record. [2:32:49, 2:32:55]: Because it was not um a request by me. [2:32:56, 2:33:00]: to be appointed as a council liaison. [2:33:00, 2:33:01]: That recommendation. [2:33:01, 2:33:03]: Came from the main street. [2:33:03, 2:33:04]: Advisory board. [2:33:05, 2:33:07]: They made that recommendation just [2:33:07, 2:33:09]: I don't know, it's last month. [2:33:09, 2:33:11]: When they came before the council. [2:33:11, 2:33:14]: So I wanted to add those comments and notes. [2:33:15, 2:33:15]: For the record. [2:33:16, 2:33:16]: Thank you, sir. [2:33:17, 2:33:27]: All right, you're welcome. So otherwise the motion is already made second and seconded. So I would I all favor the motion to table this and I've already did that. It was three votes for, three votes for, and your vote was to [2:33:28, 2:33:48]: I will abstain. Mayor, if I may, real quick. Just just for the record, the the protocol hadn't uh not only that, my my decisions are uh based off of the policies and the protocols of the way things are to be done based off the main street policy was not adhered to. That's [2:33:48, 2:33:56]: that I n for the record there were several steps. There are several steps that are to be taken and they were had not been adhered to. [2:33:58, 2:34:08]: That's what I need to state, not anything else. Just it it was a black and white, there are steps and policies and procedures and they have not been adhered to. [2:34:09, 2:34:29]: Motion passed 301. On that note, uh the announcements of upcoming events. Uh let's see here. Stockbridge Citizens Police Advisory Council, first Thursday of each month in Stockbridge Police Department Community Room at 6 p.m. on October 2nd. Uh youth council meeting first Monday of each month. [2:34:29, 2:34:49]: Levi Meeting Room at 6:30, October 6th. The community zoning and information meeting Wednesday, October 8th, at City Hall and Council Chambers at 6 p.m. Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month at 9 a.m. at Downtown Connection Center, 1.30 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, October 10th. [2:34:49, 2:35:09]: City Council meeting second Monday of each month, City Council Chambers, October 13th. Citywide Development Authority meeting second Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall, Levi Meeting Room, October 14th. Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting date change Thursda third Thursday of each month 6:30 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room. [2:35:09, 2:35:12]: [9312.5, 9332.5]: Planning Commission meeting Thursday, October 16th at 6 30 p.m. Sea Hall Council Chambers. The Downtown Development Authority Meeting Board Meeting Third Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. at Downtown Connection Center, 130 M. L. King Senior Heritage Trail, October 21st. Ethics Board Meeting, Wednesday, October 22nd, Levi Meeting. [2:35:32, 2:35:51]: Meeting room at 6 30. City Council work session meeting last Tuesday of each month, October 28th at 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers. Join the city of Stockbridge Police Department for International Coffee. Coffee Coffee Coffee with a COP day. Wednesday, October 1st, at 9 30 a.m. to uh 11 30 a.m. [2:35:52, 2:35:55]: At Starbucks on ten fifty eight Eagles Landing Parkway. [2:35:55, 2:36:15]: Join Mayor Pro Tem Gantt at the Free Line Dancing Class Wednesday, October 1st at 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. at Merrill Manor's Conference Center. Bring your own fan. Haul it to the hall. Bring your household documents to the City Hall parking lot for free shredding on Saturday, October 4th, 8 a.m. to 12 noon. The muscle must be [2:36:15, 2:36:35]: Car show is back. Main Street is hosting this amazing car show on Saturday, October 4th, from noon to 4 p.m. in downtown Stockbridge at 1:30 ML King Senior Heritage Trail. Join us for a live music. Come dress in your vintage outfit and enter the costume contest. All ages are welcome. The 2025 Municipal [2:36:35, 2:36:49]: election forum will take place Tuesday, October seventh, seven p.m. at Merrill Manor's Conference Center. Join Councilman uh Elden Alexander for the District Five Community Cleanup. Yes, sir. Correction. The date's gonna be changed on that to November the eighth. [2:36:49, 2:36:50]: November eighth? Yes. [2:36:51, 2:36:55]: The community cleanup date will be changed to November eighth. [2:36:56, 2:37:00]: And that'd be still from nine A. M. to eleven A. M. So please meet at Costco Parking Lot on Jodica Road. [2:37:01, 2:37:21]: Uh Councilman Berry in partnership uh with the monthly Bingo Bash on Wednesday, October fifteenth, 10 a.m. to twelve noon at Merrill Manos Conference Center. Lots of fun to be had by all. Join the city of Stockbridge for the annual breast cancer love walk, Saturday, October 18th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Clark Park. [2:37:21, 2:37:41]: More information, contact the events department at events at stopbridgega.org. Join Mayor Potem Gamp for the free annual fall festival on Saturday, October 25th at Clark Park with candy, food trucks, games, costume contests, prizes, and more. Join Mayor Ford, Anthony Ford for the monthly Meet the Man. [2:37:41, 2:37:45]: Monday, October twenty seventh, ten A. M. to twelve noon, the city hall. [2:37:45, 2:38:05]: And meetings are by appointment. Starbury's Main Street is housting, hosting a diabetes awareness walk and health fair on th Saturday, November 1st. Registration begins at 7.30 a.m. The 5K walk will begin at 8.30 at Clark Park. The health fair will take place at 10 a.m. from uh noon at various locations throughout the park. [2:38:05, 2:38:25]: Whether permitting, or at Merle Manders Conference Center lower level. And the Economic Development Department hosts a free business health clinic on the second Thursday of each month from 9 a.m. to 12 noon. The Stockbridge Connection Center 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail. Check your health and of your business with a free clinic. [2:38:25, 2:38:45]: Uh Councilman Thomas is honoring veterans with a continued salute all year long. Please send your pictures of veterans, their name, branch, rank, and years of service. And let's see, sign up for a real-time alerts about severe weather, rolls closure, roll closures and emergencies on Regroup app. Visit the city's website or social media. [2:38:45, 2:39:05]: Media pages for more information on how and where to sign up. Stay safe. Please contact Rosland Rawls, his schedule appointment for Meet the Mayor. And for more information on council initiatives 678-833-3348 or by way of email, rawls at stoppers G.org. And a 25-2025 council season. [2:39:05, 2:39:25]: Season comes to the end on Saturday, October 18th, with Detroit Gospel Legends featuring Fred Hammond, Donnie McClurkin, Anthony Brown, Vanessa Bell, Armstrong, Lisa Page Brooks, Calvin Wynans, and Brian Cage. And this is the fall, ladies and gentlemen. Flu shots, get your health in check for the winter months. Enjoy your [2:39:25, 2:39:45]: football season and your favorite team and uh have a fantastic and great safe hollow uh Halloween at the end of the month. On that note um council I need a motion to end our meeting tonight. So moved. Is there a second? I second. Okay from Mr. Alexander and Miss Kent. All favor please indicate announced decision. Good night everybody [2:39:45, 2:39:45]: And God bless you. [2:39:46, 2:39:47]: Look at those legs. [2:39:48, 2:39:49]:
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    --- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2025-09-08 source: 2025-09-08_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:01]: Hello, come on. [0:00:05, 0:00:08]: Thank you, sir. No problem. No problem at all. [0:00:15, 0:00:16]: Yeah, yeah. [0:00:18, 0:00:20]: Oh about two. [0:00:20, 0:00:33]: Some some of y'all come on this side as well. We we can spread it around a little bit. Alright. Okay, back there. I think that camera's gonna get that wide. No, don't worry about it. It's all good. We routinely do this. [0:00:34, 0:00:54]: Alright, so ladies and gentlemen, got a proclamation from the city of Stockbridge: Hidden Valley Senior Center Recognition Week, Piring Possibilities, flipped the script. Okay. Whereas the staff and personal of uh personnel of Hidden Valley Senior Center had manifested a dynamic role in fostering creativity, connection, purpose, and resilience for their [0:00:54, 0:01:14]: Attendees enlisting the support of us attendees, having them actively participate in various events to refresh, recharge, and rejuvenate. Whereas the Hidden Valley Senior Center staff has fostered an atmosphere of connection that combats loneliness and isolation, along with health and wellness programs that promote vitality, where people gather. [0:01:14, 0:01:16]: Yeah. [0:01:16, 0:01:36]: Whereas the Hidden Valley Senior Center staff publishes a biomonthly calendar that informs center attendees about special events, programs, enrichment, classes, weekly activities, group trips, which support the vision and the thriving community where senior residents are healthy, active, safe, and independent. Whereas the Hidden Valley Senior Center staff [0:01:36, 0:01:48]: in cooperation with the other centers in the county, I've been instrumental in this mission to enhance the quality of life for Henry County older adults, resulting in activities that enrich the mind, body, and spirit. [0:01:48, 0:02:03]: Whereas the Hidden Valley Senior Center staff has partnered with other agencies to come alongside to provide services respect uh specifically for seniors to enhance their way of life. And now therefore I, Anthony Ford, my virtual authority investing me as the mayor of City Stockbridget, Georgia. [0:02:03, 0:02:13]: And on behalf of city council members Elton Alexander, Ilana Barber, Kyle Berry, Luke Lakeisa Gantt and Afonso Thomas, we hereby proclaim the week of September 15th through the 19th, 2025. [0:02:14, 0:02:16]: As Hidden Valley Senior Center Recreation Week. [0:02:16, 0:02:26]: the great city of Starby, Georgia, and urge all citizens to recognize and support the vital services provided by Senior Center personnel and staff for the benefit of all citizens. [0:02:26, 0:02:46]: In witness thereof, I have here unto seven in great seal city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the 8th day of September, year of our Lord, 2025. And I signed a proclamation along with my clerk Vanessa Holiday. Mr. Brown, congratulations to you on this year. Okay. Now what happens is you hope that's [0:02:46, 0:03:06]: Sir, you get that's yours. Now what happens, sir, is when we do this, right? Uh the floor is yours. The mic is there and the floor is yours. Whatever you need to say. Floor is yours. You know, you shouldn't give a preacher microphone. That's fine. Well for one quick minute, uh I just want to again uh present this uh to Pam. [0:03:06, 0:03:07]: You come and uh [0:03:10, 0:03:30]: I guess and uh okay. Yeah. Uh we're grateful. Um I'm kinda new to the county or new to the city, but I've been attending Hidden Valley and uh a lot that goes on there. You guys put on a lot. We did a gala on this past Friday night in Locust Grove and walked up and they had the red [0:03:30, 0:03:50]: Carpet outside. Oh, fantastic. And the rest of the evening was A1. So that's only a part of what they do on behalf of the seniors that attend that center, various activities and so forth. So just uh on bes on behalf of the site console at Hidden Valley, we just want to say thank you for all that you guys do and all that you [0:03:49, 0:04:09]: You will do and all that's in the future. I'll be looking at the schedule. We got a lot of activities planned, and but we're grateful from the front to the back, even to the cashier who messed with me when I pay my money. Okay. I'm not gonna call no name, even though I'm not calling no name, you know. But for everyone, on behalf of the site council, uh thank you all for all. [0:04:09, 0:04:29]: All that you do for us, and on behalf of all the other seniors that attend there, we're grateful for your ethics and all that you do. And thank you very much. Okay, great. Now, I'll tell you what, since you mentioned the activity last Friday night, now I personally could not attend. We had something else going on the city starts. I couldn't attend. But because you said that, we have Vice Chair Nee Robinson. [0:04:29, 0:04:49]: I would assume that uh you are you were there that night. So ma'am, the floor is yours. What what kind of advice would Norma students you have to tell us? Well you hold that because this is an honor for you all. Um and I just wanna say to the staff, Sean, you guys do an amazing job for them. Um so whatever we can do for our seniors. [0:04:49, 0:04:54]: I mean it's just something that we are, you know, overjoyed to do. [0:04:54, 0:04:58]: And just to be here for you all because guess what? You have [0:04:59, 0:05:19]: set the tone for us. Um and there's more to come for Hidden Valley. Um so mayor, just stay tuned. Okay. We have a state of the art facility that are coming for these fine young people. Okay and we're just looking forward to it. But thank you so much um for your kind words that you have stated in reference to the county and the city. And thank you [0:05:19, 0:05:39]: You guys to City for placing this honor on um this group of y fine people. We're gonna we're gonna say if you come down, come down so we're gonna take a picture of she'll give try to get everybody in here. Come on in. Come on in, come on down, sir. Come on. [0:05:39, 0:05:59]: You good? Gina? Come on. Gina, come on. [0:05:58, 0:06:06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [0:06:06, 0:06:07]: You don't hear that, Paul. [0:06:08, 0:06:09]: Yeah, okay. [0:06:12, 0:06:13]: Yeah. [0:06:15, 0:06:16]: [387.8, 392.9]: Now it's a few of that. [0:06:34, 0:06:44]: Yeah. Yeah. [0:06:51, 0:06:54]: I think you got one more too. [0:06:56, 0:07:00]: And of course you're welcome to stay as long as you like,'cause it's a public meeting, so that's clearly up to you. [0:07:01, 0:07:04]: I have a proclamation for World All Timers Day. [0:07:05, 0:07:10]: Is uh someone here received that. World Alzheimer's Day. [0:07:11, 0:07:16]: Okay. Well we're gonna we'll oh go I'm gonna do this anyway at this point, okay? [0:07:18, 0:07:29]: So World Alzheimer's Day, whereas World Alzheimer's Day, which takes place every September twenty first, is a global effort to raise awareness and challenges of stigma around Alzheimer's disease, uh other dementia. [0:07:30, 0:07:34]: And whereas Alzheimer's disease is a progressive neur generational [0:07:34, 0:07:54]: Generativity, brain disorder, which robs individuals of the memories, leads to progressive mental and physical impairments, and there are no known treatments to prevent or curate, let alone slow the progression of the disease. Whereas family and friend caregivers bear extraordinary burden in caring for loved ones, in Georgia, over 11 million families. [0:07:54, 0:08:05]: Family members and friends provide unpaid care. Whereas the city of Stockbridge recognizes the efforts of Alzheimer's Association to raise funds and to promote awareness to fight Alzheimer's disease and other dementias. [0:08:06, 0:08:21]: Therefore, uh improving the quality of of human life for those living with Alzheimer's disease and their caregivers. Whereas this World Alzheimer's Day marks a historical error error in the fight against Alzheimer's, we now have uh traditionally approved of treatments to slow Alzheimer's in the early stages. [0:08:22, 0:08:24]: But there is much more work to do. [0:08:24, 0:08:40]: Day by day, we're making real progress for families facing the disease. Now therefore, I Anthony Sfor, by virtual authority, vests in me as the mayor of City of Starbury, Georgia. On behalf of City Council members Ellen, Alexander, Ilana, Barber Cowberry, Lakisa Gannon, Alfonso Thomas, who hereby encourage everyone to participate in the walk. [0:08:40, 0:08:47]: To enter Alzheimer's Saturday, November eighth, twenty twenty five, here in Henry County of Sal in Salem Park. [0:08:47, 0:08:50]: Russia Online at A L Z dot or G [0:08:50, 0:08:59]: And witness thereof I have into, hereunto, set my hand in the great seal of city of Starbury, Georgia, on the eighth day of September, year of our Lord, 2025. [0:08:59, 0:09:07]: And I signed a proclamation along with uh our clerk Vanessa Holiday. You know, ladies and gentlemen, just want you to know and have that. Okay? [0:09:08, 0:09:13]: I don't know if you want to take a picture of this at once. Okay. No voluntary. No, not not at this point. [0:09:17, 0:09:22]: All right, thank you. All right. So I have uh proclamations here for NAS [0:09:23, 0:09:25]: National Hispanic Heritage Month. [0:09:26, 0:09:32]: So uh we have a couple of recipients for that. Angie, come on up. [0:09:38, 0:09:41]: You you want to okay that's fine. You can you can join us. Absolutely. [0:09:43, 0:09:45]: I don't could see. [0:09:46, 0:09:49]: All right. All right, yeah. Yeah. [0:09:53, 0:09:57]: Yeah, young folks here. Young guys. Come on in. [0:10:00, 0:10:01]: Yes, mm-hmm. [0:10:03, 0:10:04]: Mm mm. [0:10:04, 0:10:24]: National Hispanic Heritage Month, whereas each year the Americans observe National Hispanic Heritage Month annually from September 15th to October 15th by celebrating the contributions and influence of Hispanic Americans to the history, culture, and achievements of the United States of America citizens whose ancestors came from Spain, Mexico, Caribbean, Central, and South America. [0:10:24, 0:10:40]: Whereas the observation uh started in nineteen sixty-eight as the Hispanic Heritage Week under President Lyndon Johnson and was expanded by President Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty eight to cover a thirty-day period starting on September fifteenth and ending on October fifteenth. [0:10:40, 0:11:00]: It was enacted into law on August 17, 1988, on the approval of the Public Law 100-402. And whereas the day of September 15th is significant because it is the anniversary of independence of four Latin American countries: Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and Nicaragua. In addition, Mexico and Chile celebrate their independence days on Saturday. [0:11:00, 0:11:20]: September 16th and 18th, respectively. Whereas this year's theme, Collective Heritage, Honoring the Past, Inspiring the Future, reflects on the enduring legacy of resilience, leadership, cultural vivosity, okay, that Hispanic communities bring to every facet in our society. Whereas countless Hispanic educators, entrepreneurs, and community organizers [0:11:20, 0:11:39]: continue to inspire new generations to lead with pride and purpose. This month is a time to reflect on the past, celebrate the present, and build a future where the voices and contributions of Hispanic and Latino Americans are always recognized and valued. Therefore I Anthony Sfor by virtue authority vests in me as a marriage stopries, Georgia. [0:11:40, 0:11:47]: And on behalf of city council members, Elton Alexander, Lana, Barber, Kyle, Berry, Keese again, Afonso Thomas do hereby proclaim September fifteenth. [0:11:47, 0:12:07]: To October 15th as Hispanic Herodest Month in the great city of Stockbridge. And witness thereof, I have hereunto set in my hand in the great seal of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on this eighth day of September, year of our Lord, 2025, and signed a proclamation along direct for it and it's a holiday. So the server I need to give, here you go. Congratulations to you. [0:12:07, 0:12:08]: Yeah. [0:12:11, 0:12:17]: And one another one for you as well. Congratulations to you. Now granted same thing, you know, once you [0:12:18, 0:12:19]: You deserve it. [0:12:20, 0:12:26]: Now now on that note, the f the floor is now yours. [0:12:27, 0:12:29]: Bob, how many? [0:12:29, 0:12:49]: Did I do something wrong then? Okay. Yes. Okay. All right. Soin. All right. So on that note, I mean the floor is yours in reference to any comments that you made that you want to say in reference to this at all. And I'll I'll tell you what. I'll do this. I'll do this, all right? Andy here? [0:12:49, 0:12:50]: For cafe? [0:12:51, 0:12:53]: Uh routinely [0:12:53, 0:13:04]: Visited a cafe, Romeo Sundays after church and I was there just guessful. Uh-huh. And she waited on me for a brief moment. And so one f one [0:13:05, 0:13:19]: Activity one for breakfast and brunch, also. I can't recall what your businesses are, but I know I go visit her routine. All right. On that note I'll be quiet, okay? All right. Excuse me. We'll we can uh we figure out we we can issue more stuff, okay? [0:13:19, 0:13:24]: Oh is that right? Okay. Good deal. The floor is yours. Anyone? [0:13:26, 0:13:43]: Tell us how great your business is. That's all you're gonna tell us how great your business is. Um my name is Maria Ramirez and I work for RCC and Associates and we be in business for in the city of Sackridge for over twenty years. We are gonna turn twenty two. [0:13:43, 0:14:01]: Two three twenty three this year. Oh I'm sorry. So twenty three years in the city of Stockridge. So we are very um delighted to come every year. So we are very um [0:14:01, 0:14:05]: Delighted and honored that the city of Stockbridge. [0:14:05, 0:14:14]: remember our culture and um that you know recognize us as Hispanic in this community that we're here to grow. Thank you. [0:14:19, 0:14:22]: It's up to you. Anybody. Anybody. [0:14:23, 0:14:26]: Go ahead, sir. You look like making it. [0:14:26, 0:14:46]: Uh good afternoon. First of all, thank you guys uh for you know inviting us out here. Uh we are with the Orno. We're a pizzeria in uh Mexican kitchen. We are um Italian and Mexican fusion. So think about you know, if you like tacos, you like pizza, we fuse it up together uh with our own uh with our own twist to it, you know. So we've we're fairly [0:14:46, 0:15:06]: young. Um we're a year in, but we have received a lot of great feedback from the community, a lot of support. Definitely thank you to the city of Stockbridge for you know allowing us to you know be a part of the community as well. And you know we're still still learning process uh there so we're slowly growing, slowly um, you know, learning and all that good stuff. We have offered a little bit of everything. [0:15:06, 0:15:26]: From tacos to pizza to wings, definitely try our specialty. That's what a lot of people have recognized us for, infusing our Hispanic Mexican culture onto um the Italian prize, right? The Italian cuisine, which is pizza. Like who doesn't love pizza and who doesn't love tacos, right? But other than that, thank you so much for, you know, inviting us out and you know. [0:15:26, 0:15:34]: Letting us be a part of um the city and definitely hopefully we're here for many, many more years. Thank y'all so much. [0:15:37, 0:15:38]: So that's not great in parts. [0:15:39, 0:15:43]: Just a little bit. [0:15:43, 0:15:46]: Everybody knows you already [0:15:48, 0:16:08]: Okay. Certainly w as the mayor has indicated, Angie's Cafe right there on North Henry Boulevard, right there next to the new Burlington, right? Which is uh a big investment uh in North Henry Boulevard as we certainly appreciate your investment. [0:16:08, 0:16:28]: Your restaurant kind of kicked off the turnaround for that particular area and it's continuing to come and continuing to develop. I call council a w um commissioner Robinson, vice chair up here, because we collaborated with RCC and Association and Rocio Camacho. [0:16:28, 0:16:48]: To establish a program called Hispanic Stockbridge, which we saw the proclamation being given out on a yearly basis, but we wanted to do more than that. We certainly wanted to embrace the Hispanic culture and we wanted to have an event. And this year, during Bridgefest, it'll be Bridgefest, Hispanifest, we have specific areas. [0:16:48, 0:17:00]: areas and performances dedicated to uh the Hispanic community. Uh and certainly we value your contributions and understand everybody is welcome here in the city of Stockbridge Commissioner. [0:17:01, 0:17:13]: Yes, I wanna echo that. We actually started this in twenty seventeen. Um so you know we have definitely been community partners. Um we just love that this is a community that [0:17:14, 0:17:34]: Connects. I'm sorry. Connect and and not only that, it we feel like family. Um so when you all were here, it just shows that the connection of Stockbridge is just it's something bigger and better than other cities and counties um right here in um Stockbridge and Henry County. So as we continue to grow together. [0:17:34, 0:17:54]: um and work together. We're super excited. So we're just looking forward to the celebration. And Rosia's not here, so hopefully she's watching. But we just want to say that we just appreciate um the love and the partnership that we bring to this city. And um to everyone else, congratulations. [0:17:54, 0:18:00]: And we're just so glad that you're part of the family here in Stockbridge and Henry County as well. [0:18:01, 0:18:21]: Hold on, hold on, hold on. I just want to say one other thing, okay. We're not done yet. The Citywide Development Authority, Roccio, just reached out to us a few weeks ago and the DDA, we're working on Hispanic Business Expo. And we certainly would like all of you all to participate in it and to be prepared and understand it's just more than [0:18:21, 0:18:41]: Talk, it's action, and we are here to welcome everyone. And stock bridge is what open for business? Stock bridge. Where community connects? Right, there you go. Appreciate it. So let's come. Down, folks. Come on down this way, please. Come on, come on. Move up. We might have to double up. Come on down further. [0:18:41, 0:18:56]: Come on little folks. Come on, come on, come on, come on down. This one. Put out the proclamations there, ladies, please. Gentlemen. [0:19:03, 0:19:07]: That's a good thing. Thank you. [0:19:09, 0:19:10]: Okay. [0:19:23, 0:19:28]: I have a swearing in to do also today in reference to the youth council advisory committee member. [0:19:29, 0:19:32]: Danita Mimis, sorry to pronounce it. Come on up, please. [0:19:37, 0:19:44]: Right in this area and um raise your right hand and we'll I'll repeat after me and I'll take a small little snippets for you, okay? Okay. [0:19:45, 0:19:50]: Okay, listen up please folks. I state your name. I Danita Michelle Dennis. [0:19:50, 0:20:00]: Uh uh committee member. Community member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully performed. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the youth council advisory committee. [0:20:01, 0:20:05]: The duties of the youth advisory coming youth council advisory committee. [0:20:05, 0:20:25]: Advisory committee of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend. The charter thereof. The charter thereof. As well as the constitution. As well as the constitution. And the laws. And the laws of the state of Georgia. Of the state of Georgia. And the United States of America. And the United States of America. [0:20:25, 0:20:30]: I have further affirmed that uh upon assumption of this office. [0:20:30, 0:20:50]: Upon assumption of this office, I do not hold. I do not hold any unaccounted for any accounted for public money public money to unpayable to the state. To unpayable to the state. Any political subdivision? Any political subdivision of the state? Of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or the authority thereof. Nor do I hold. Nor do I hold any other office. [0:20:50, 0:21:10]: Any other office of trust of trust of the government of the government of the United States of this state of this state or any foreign state or any foreign state as prescribed by law by law of the state of Georgia in the state of Georgia. I will perform the duties of my office of my office in the best in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge. [0:21:10, 0:21:30]: City of Stark. And to the best of my ability. And to the best of my ability. Without fear. Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. Reward. Or expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. And this is eight day of September, year of our Lord, 2025. And congratulations to you. All right. All right. Now, just as we do. [0:21:30, 0:21:39]: Uh we had to sign these documents here, but you also have the option to speak to everybody and give your words of wisdom. Okay, so the time is yours. [0:21:40, 0:21:43]: Okay, I have to sign right here as well. [0:21:44, 0:21:45]: Yeah, do I understand? [0:21:45, 0:21:49]: Okay. Thank you so much. Here, here, okay. [0:21:56, 0:22:12]: And there you go. Congratulations to you. Okay. Now um you want you taking pictures. You don't want to you know you my bad for the floor is yours. If you have a comment to one minute. [0:22:13, 0:22:21]: Okay. Um good evening everybody. I am Danita Menace, um, and I am very elated to [0:22:21, 0:22:41]: have this position to work with the youth of Stockbridge. I have been working with young people since I was a young person. Um and what I strongly believe is that the youth are exactly where we all should be thriving to work with and work for. They are our future [0:22:41, 0:23:01]: And they always do what we do and not what we say. And I model my life out of after that personally and professionally. Um I just recently started my own business and had my ribbon cutting ceremony. Uh thank you so much, Mayor and and Ms. Robinson for being [0:23:01, 0:23:18]: there. One of my main goals with the business is to help young people who are thriving to be in business for themselves as well as offering them life culture and support. So I'm super excited about being a part of the council. So thank you guys so much. Appreciate it. [0:23:19, 0:23:30]: Thank you. Okay, here we go. Okay, um good afternoon everyone. I'm the um the [0:23:32, 0:23:52]: I'm so sorry you guys. It's been a long day coming from work. But I'm the chair of the uh Stockwood Youth Council Advisory Committee. And um Miss Minnesota, she completes us. We are uh we are finally at twelve, so I'm so happy for that. Um it takes a lot, like they say, it takes a village to, you know, raise kids and we're [0:23:52, 0:24:12]: so glad to have her as a part of that, not just being on the committee, but she's already imparting so much into what she loves to do with the kids. So she's gonna be uh advantageous to what we're doing. So thank you. We appreciate it. Good job. Good journey. So let's uh let's come up come on down here, we'll take uh pictures [0:24:12, 0:24:17]: Yeah. [0:24:26, 0:24:41]: Gotcha. All right. Fantastic. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we'll get started and let's see here. I have six total, we'll get started by five minutes. We do have a corn. All right. Yeah, I see. [0:24:43, 0:24:47]: How are we doing man? [0:24:47, 0:24:50]: No, you didn't know this. [0:24:51, 0:24:53]: You don't make sure to reverse it out for you. [0:24:55, 0:25:02]: [1503.2, 1505.0]: [0:25:06, 0:25:21]: [1534.5, 1537.0]: [0:25:45, 0:25:55]: Okay, thank you. Now what I was gonna ask you earlier is whether or not either one of you would be in this. [0:25:57, 0:25:58]: Right. [0:26:00, 0:26:03]: [1563.9, 1572.0]: Uh new. [0:26:12, 0:26:18]: Really? Well, drop this off on the capsule. Yes. [0:26:18, 0:26:30]: Oh yes. Yeah, we know that's what I thought. Okay, okay, I forgot to use I'll I'll I'll call you up. [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: Yeah. [0:26:40, 0:26:50]: We could go this way. [0:27:06, 0:27:07]: Yeah. Which one? Yeah. [0:27:08, 0:27:09]: You may want to do. [0:27:10, 0:27:11]: [1632.0, 1646.6]: How are you? I'm Andy. Joan. Joan, that's weak IT help test. Yes, you are. Good? All right, you're good. Thank you. [0:27:30, 0:27:33]: But there's a very high [0:27:35, 0:27:39]: Appreciate that right. [0:27:39, 0:27:40]: Yeah, so [0:28:00, 0:28:20]: But I also wanted to be able to spread out what I'll do. Like I just want to call it. [0:28:20, 0:28:21]: Yeah, but [0:28:23, 0:28:30]: Yeah, and some of the middle editors. [0:28:31, 0:28:35]: Yeah, you get one of the shape. [0:28:55, 0:28:56]: [1736.3, 1738.5]: I don't know. [0:28:59, 0:29:00]: Yeah. [0:29:05, 0:29:13]: You're the one missing. Oh, yeah. [0:29:15, 0:29:25]: Yeah. Whatever we tell. More shit. [0:29:35, 0:29:36]: No right. [0:29:37, 0:29:39]: [1795.6, 1815.6]: Yes, yes. [0:30:15, 0:30:20]: [1822.1, 1838.0]: Yeah. We ask for. [0:30:58, 0:30:59]: Come in. [0:31:23, 0:31:32]: Okay, okay, show you now. Congratulations. [0:32:05, 0:32:05]: [1929.4, 1930.8]: Oh yeah, [0:32:13, 0:32:15]: Okay. [0:32:31, 0:32:39]: Right. I need for you to when I ask for an amendment to the agenda, I need for you to read that. All right. [0:32:42, 0:32:52]: Alright ladies and gentlemen, we'll get started with our council meeting. Um I have actually six ten. Okay, so I'd like to call the council meeting for September eighth to order. [0:32:52, 0:32:54]: Invocation, uh Maria. [0:32:55, 0:32:58]: Marie c come on up to the mic and give us an invocation, please. [0:32:58, 0:33:00]: Make sure the green light is on. [0:33:02, 0:33:07]: Yeah, right there should be a the green light. You see a green light? Yes. Okay, go ahead, please. [0:33:07, 0:33:10]: Dear Lord, we pray for you today. [0:33:10, 0:33:13]: And to bless us this day. [0:33:14, 0:33:29]: I would continue in Spanish because that's my year of my own. I think every one of those people who are with us this day, that it's your voluntary that we talk about the voice of others. [0:33:29, 0:33:49]: Que cada uno actue de corazon con tu bendición in el nombre Jesús. Amen. Amen. Amen. All right. Thank you very much. Pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to the Republic where it stands one nation, one God, in a good republic. [0:33:49, 0:33:51]: Liberty and justice for all. [0:33:52, 0:33:55]: Madam Clerk, Roll Call, please. Good evening. [0:33:55, 0:33:56]: If nine [0:34:00, 0:34:02]: Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. [0:34:04, 0:34:06]: Present Council Member Thomas. [0:34:06, 0:34:10]: Let the record reflect Council Member Thomas is not in attendance. Council Member Berry. [0:34:11, 0:34:31]: At the record reflect, Councilmember Berry is not in attendance. Councilmember Barber. Present. Councilmember Alexander. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Um Mayor Po Tem, I need an amendment to the agenda, please. Yes, Mayor, I would like to um make a motion to amend the agenda to table item number three, item number four, and item number five at the staff's request. [0:34:31, 0:34:32]: [2072.5, 2074.1]: Thank you. Is there a second to a motion? [0:34:34, 0:34:37]: Sick. Okay, thank you very much. Um fair please indicate. [0:34:38, 0:34:44]: Okay, thank you very much. Um now I need a motion to adopt the rest of the agenda, please. So moved. Is there a second? [0:34:45, 0:35:05]: Second. Okay, from Miss Uh Ms. Gantton, Miss House, and our favorite, please indicate. All right, fantastic. Uh earlier this evening, ladies and gentlemen, we had a ceremonial review, several different proclamations. Uh the first proclamation was actually to Hidden Valley Senior Recreational Center, acknowledging uh this uh seniors week and uh Mr. Paul Brown and [0:35:05, 0:35:25]: And staff from the Hidden Valley Senior Center were here to receive that. We also had a uh proclamation for National Hispanic Heritage Month, which is from uh September 15th to October 15th. And we have several individuals who received that, uh, Angie from Angie's Cafe, and uh individuals from RCC and Associates that have been uh residents uh and [0:35:25, 0:35:45]: but it have the business well over twenty years in the city of Stockbridge. And then uh we uh actually swore in a new member of the youth council advisory committee and if I got right Miss Minnesota if I pronounced that right and uh she's joined uh joined that particular committee. Now that advisory committee is full with twelve adult uh advisors to work with those children as [0:35:45, 0:36:03]: as they uh continue to grow this next year. And uh did read a proclamation on World All Timers Day, but there was no no one received that, but we did a knowledge World All Timers Day uh this evening as well. And that's all for the ceremonial review. Um Madam Clerk do we have any public comments at all? [0:36:05, 0:36:06]: Willie Carter. [0:36:06, 0:36:26]: Okay. Public comments. All persons wishing to speak for public comment must sign in the city clerk prior to beginning of the meeting. You must sign your name, address and phone number. You'll be able to address the mayor and council for at least three minutes. Speakers must be re respect. All members of the elected body, officials and staff. Definition of unruliness and or swearing will not be tolerated while meetings are [0:36:26, 0:36:29]: Mr. Carter, please name and address. [0:36:30, 0:36:32]: Uh wheel uh one twenty three Wilson Avenue. [0:36:33, 0:36:33]: Okay. [0:36:34, 0:36:36]: Well. [0:36:37, 0:36:48]: Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Council, and the Stockbridge residents. I'm Willie Carter, District Two candidate for city council. We have all been excuse me aware of the [0:36:49, 0:36:55]: It's its management of funds in the fiscal year of twenty twenty four. [0:36:55, 0:37:15]: Along requiring a budget amendment of 32.9 million, this is unacceptable and cannot continue. Going forward as the city prepares to set the new budget, the city council needs to be more responsible with taking care of the services that should be provided to the residents and the businesses. [0:37:15, 0:37:35]: of the city. Three years in with this amphitheater, every single year has spent millions of dollars over budget. And I'm sure twenty twenty five is going to be added to that. At some point this council needs to wise up and pivot. Let's get it right for twenty twenty six by bringing in [0:37:34, 0:37:54]: And a company to manage the amphitheater and take on the expenses. We simply cannot afford to continue to do this internally. Also, the city council has failed to respond to the recommendation from the City Ethics Board to have an excuse independent thought. [0:37:54, 0:38:06]: third party to review the city's finances from the complaint that was filed by Councilman Barber. Not one word has come from this city council. [0:38:08, 0:38:13]: I have come to the city council for years now to get imf improvements. [0:38:14, 0:38:31]: to the Ty Street area, and after numerous phone calls and emails and meetings with Councilman Thomas and the Public Works Department, we finally got six million approved to do the work. Why haven't this project started? [0:38:33, 0:38:42]: I am asking the new city manager and the public works director, Mr. Aaron, to provide an update on this project. Thank you. [0:38:42, 0:38:48]: Thank you for your time, appreciate it. [0:38:51, 0:38:51]: Excuse me. [0:38:53, 0:39:13]: He's done. He's finished with his comment. I just want to make sure we we make sure the clock is working if we have anybody else coming up. And also we want to make sure what the policy is in terms of there's no campaigning allowed at the mic. That's true. I was gonna talk to her about having having a sidebar conversation with him later. Okay? She knows that. She'll be on top there. [0:39:13, 0:39:33]: Appreciate it. Okay. Uh adoption to the minutes. Adoption of regular city uh council meeting minutes uh dated eleven August twenty twenty five. The middle's rate public hearing number one, meeting minutes of August twenty twenty five August eleventh, twenty twenty five. Adoption once again of the middle rate public hearing number two, uh also on August eleventh, twenty twenty five. [0:39:33, 0:39:49]: five and then the Mills rate public hearing number three, August eighteenth to twenty twenty five. You have the adoption of special call floss meeting minutes August eighteenth, and also the adoption of the work session minute meeting minutes on August twenty sixth. Council need a motion to accept those those minutes, please. [0:39:50, 0:39:54]: Some move. Is there a second? Second. Okay. All in favor, please indicate? [0:39:54, 0:40:05]: Thank you very much. What's that, sir? That is, there was a significant a development that happened in August that you talked about at the concert. [0:40:05, 0:40:13]: That's true too. So I was gonna mention that later on the season. Let's do that while we got the full audience in here before everybody leaves. How about that? [0:40:13, 0:40:33]: What amounts to, ladies and gentlemen, did in August last month, uh the uh during our fourth year of operating the uh Stockbridge Amphitheater, or now called Amphitheater at the bridge, and what it amounts to this totally paid off of twenty two point five million dollars uh debt free in the way we finance everything and it has nothing to do this finance has nothing to do with the operational [0:40:33, 0:40:53]: Funds. It was strictly the way we financed that with uh low interest bonds, uh SPLOSS funding, and also um some fund balance. Uh so it was done completely uh debt free for the operation up of for the building, the debt free of the up of the amphitheaters. We know oh no more money on that. We just have to operate uh like you would operate and maintain your home. [0:40:53, 0:41:03]: your car, even your body. So that's what we have to do now. Absolutely. So the Stockbridge By Star Empathy is one hundred percent debt free. That's correct. Thank you. You're welcome. [0:41:07, 0:41:23]: What we have next uh is actually a public hearing. And so for the public hearing rules, please mote uh mute all cell phones and other electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. [0:41:24, 0:41:37]: After each side is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant or the representative regarding the proposed plans for property along with or any other relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. [0:41:38, 0:41:43]: Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. [0:41:44, 0:41:51]: Each side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time may be ex extended at the at the discretion discretion of the council. [0:41:52, 0:41:54]: Please keep comments and presentations professional. [0:41:55, 0:42:15]: Excuse me, referring to only the facts and are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments or personal attacks towards any individual group. Please refrain from the applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer and never to members of the council, staff, or audience. All comments will be made. [0:42:14, 0:42:17]: Made for Napoleon. [0:42:17, 0:42:20]: will be required to state your name and address for the record. [0:42:20, 0:42:23]: Please note that these hearings are not a debate. [0:42:23, 0:42:43]: Fair to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the building by law enforcement if you do deviate from these proceedings. After and the other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part or of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal, may speak next and or last, or may use the entire ten minutes to allow for [0:42:43, 0:42:45]: [2565.7, 2570.5]: If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and or concerns. [0:42:50, 0:42:52]: Present officer will call for a motion. [0:42:52, 0:42:54]: And a second uh to the motion. [0:42:55, 0:42:56]: And have any necessary discussion. [0:42:57, 0:43:17]: If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. So a public hearing is appeal case AP-2025-01 Council District 4. Consideration of the appeal on the March 17, 2025 zoning review form that was used on the base of the City of Stockton. [0:43:16, 0:43:36]: Bridge discontinuance of a 2025 business license for truck parking on parcel number S27-01016000 and parcel number S27-01017000 on Rock Croy Road. The property is located in a parkway mixed use. [0:43:36, 0:43:56]: Use PMU overlay district where truck parking and all industrial uses are not permitted. Applicant James Raven, property owners James Raven, and Huddleston Concrete Company. The business license was issued by four 123 Rockway Road, where the company office is located. The property is located in land lots thirty five and thirty-seven. [0:43:56, 0:44:16]: Of District 12. The zoning, current use, and acreies for each parcel are listed below. The parcels are not continuous. 123 Rockway Road, parcel S27-01012000, zone SR suburban residential. Current use office of the Hulleston Concrete Company Air [0:44:16, 0:44:36]: Acres 1.55 acres. Processor number S27-0101-6000 on Roccoy Road, Zone LI, Light Industrial Current Use Truck Parking, Acreage 2.95 Acres. 135 Roccoy Road. [0:44:36, 0:44:56]: 7000 zoned LI Light Industrial Colonel Use Truck Parking Acres 3.44 acres presented by Mr. Anderson please. All right, good evening, Mary Council. Um before I get started, I'd like to say that this um project, this action has been vetted by a zoning attorney. [0:44:56, 0:45:08]: Um the applicant submitted um an appeal on August I mean on April twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. It was from James Raven of the Huddleston Concrete Company. His agent is Andy Welch, [0:45:08, 0:45:11]: with the law firm of Smith Welch, Webb and White. [0:45:13, 0:45:29]: And as you mentioned earlier, the property is located at 135 Rock Quarry Road for parcel S27-0101-7000. But the application ac actually concerns the adjacent parcel, S27-0101-6000. [0:45:32, 0:45:52]: Stated purpose to appeal the zoning review form that was completed by the community development staff on March seventeenth, twenty twenty-five. The form recommended that recommended the denial of Huddleston Country's use of two parcels for truck parking. That led to a decision by the Business Service Division in March twenty-eighth, twenty-five letter to state as follows. [0:45:52, 0:46:06]: The application process for your business, Huddleston Concrete, located at 135 Rock Quarry Road, is denied for the following. Truck terminals, truck trailer storage lots, truck parking lots, and truck repair are only allowed in industrial zoning. [0:46:06, 0:46:09]: and not allowed in a parkway mixed use overlay district. [0:46:10, 0:46:21]: Both actions occurred after a citation was issued on the subject property on March 14, 2025, as a result of the applicant not having an appropriate business license for truck parking. [0:46:25, 0:46:30]: Once again, uh the citation was issued on March twenty mar March fourteenth, twenty twenty five. [0:46:31, 0:46:51]: Fn the applicant was cited for not having an appropriate occupational tax certificate. Uh the applicant has never had a um occupational tax license for truck parking since the business was started. Uh municipal court summons was issued on the same day. It required the applicant to appear in court on May 16, 2025. A letter was sent to the applicant by [0:46:51, 0:47:11]: Business Services on March 28, 2025. It's stated that the application process for your business, Huddleston Concrete, located at 135 Rock Quarry Road, is denied for the following reasons. As I mentioned earlier, truck terminals, truck trail up storage lots, truck parking lots, and truck repair are only allowed in industrial zoning districts and are not allowed in the parkway mixture. [0:47:10, 0:47:12]: use overlay district. [0:47:14, 0:47:34]: Uh on April 3rd, 2025, the Code Enforcement Division of the Stockbridge Police Department sent a letter to the applicant stating that the truck parking on parcel S27-0101-6000 and parcel S27-0101-7000 was a violation and that the applicant was given 45 to 60 days. [0:47:34, 0:47:36]: Yeah. [0:47:37, 0:47:50]: Uh the applicant appeared in municipal court on may sixteenth and asked for a continuance of at least sixty days to allow his attorney time to prep to prepare for the court hearing. The court then rescheduled applicant hearing to july eighteenth, twenty twenty five. [0:47:51, 0:47:58]: The applicant is requesting to either be granted an appeal hearing before city council or that the community depart development department decide that the 2025 business license [0:47:59, 0:48:02]: which the applicant receives does not does not apply. [0:48:02, 0:48:04]: To the subject property. The applicant ha [0:48:05, 0:48:09]: did receive a business license, but only for the Huddlest Huddleston. [0:48:10, 0:48:11]: Concrete company. [0:48:14, 0:48:15]: Um [0:48:18, 0:48:20]: Let me get to the uh [0:48:24, 0:48:44]: The current zoning of the property, the base zoning is for the, there are three separate parcels. Um the office parcel, which the with the company office is located is zone SR, suburban residential. The truck parking zoning is zone L I. And the overlay district is PMU, and the future land use designation. [0:48:44, 0:48:49]: Here's a aerial photo of the of the properties. [0:48:52, 0:48:55]: Highlighted in green is the parcel where where the truck parking is occurring. [0:48:55, 0:48:56]: Yep, yes. [0:48:56, 0:49:00]: Uh this is a photo, another area photo. [0:49:01, 0:49:05]: Here's a picture of the office for the Huddleston Concrete Company. [0:49:09, 0:49:23]: So here's an aerial photo of the truck of one of the truck parcels. So it's parking on two different parcels and neither one of these parcels have an occupational tax license associated with it. And never once did they apply for an OTC for either of those parcels. [0:49:26, 0:49:29]: So here's the second parcel where the truck parking is occurring. [0:49:31, 0:49:38]: Here's a street view of the truck parking. As you as you can see from the street view, that the trucks are lined up fronting on Rock Quarry Road. [0:49:40, 0:49:42]: There's a air another aerial photo of the truck parking. [0:49:52, 0:49:54]: The surrounding zoning [0:49:55, 0:50:15]: Uh to the north you got suburban residential and MFR and OI. To the south is the railroad. To the east you got heavy industrial, and to the west is the west on the west side of Rock Court between South Lee Street to the north and the railroad tracks to the south. [0:50:14, 0:50:30]: The surrounding future land use designations is to the north you got downtown district, to the northeast you got low density mixed use, to the east you got heavy industrial, to the west and south you got light industrial. And the road classification for Rock Quarry Road is a minor arterial. [0:50:32, 0:50:32]: Um [0:50:34, 0:50:42]: The property at 123 Rockware Road is zone SR, Suburban Residential, and is occupied by a small building that is being used by Huddleston Concrete for an office. [0:50:42, 0:50:46]: The SR district though does not allow office uses. [0:50:46, 0:50:48]: Since only residential uses are allowed on [0:50:50, 0:51:02]: The uh the other two parts of the zone LI and they are being used for truck parking, even though LI does not allow truck parking. The only zoning district within the city of Stockbridge where truck parking is allowed is HI, Heavy Industrial. [0:51:02, 0:51:22]: All three parcels are located within the PMU overlay district. Section 2.52D17 of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code states that the following types of uses are prohibited within the PMU. Once again, truck terminals, truck trailer storage, truck parking lots, and truck repair. In addition, all type all types of industrial uses are prohibited. [0:51:22, 0:51:27]: within the PMU. All three parcels have a future land use designation of light industrial. [0:51:31, 0:51:34]: Here's the um land use map of the three parcels. [0:51:36, 0:51:38]: Here's the overlay district map. [0:51:41, 0:51:44]: Future land use map for the three parcels. [0:51:45, 0:51:58]: Zoning history. Research was conducted on historical zoning maps and ordinance to identify the previous zoning district for the three parcels of land that are currently in Quartius and currently owned by Huddleston Concrete. Whether the zoning changed at any time. [0:52:00, 0:52:03]: Well the truck parking was all allowable use at any time. [0:52:03, 0:52:23]: And when any overlay districts began. Planning and zoning functions for the city of Stockbridge were previously handled by Henry County prior to 2019. So previous Henry County, Henry County zoning maps and ordinance had to be researched. We went back to 1963, which requires Stockbridge Urban Area Zoning Map was. [0:52:23, 0:52:40]: recommended by the by the Henry County Planning Commission and adopted by the Oakbridge City Council on May 10th, 1963. It was prepared by Hill and Adley Associates Planning Consultants on the basis of a 1960 field survey. It clearly shows the area where the two existing truck parcels are located. [0:52:40, 0:52:45]: adjacent to the southern railroad as being long as being zone m one [0:52:45, 0:52:46]: M one is [0:52:47, 0:52:52]: It's the same as our light industrial now. So at the time it we used M one instead of um [0:52:52, 0:52:53]: Hello. [0:52:53, 0:52:57]: And and at that time M one did not allow um truck parking. [0:52:58, 0:53:05]: While the area for the Holston Concrete Company's current office at 123 Rock Quarry is was zoned as RM 75. [0:53:05, 0:53:08]: At the time was a type of multifamily residential zoning. [0:53:08, 0:53:10]: Then we looked at a map from nineteen eighty nine. [0:53:15, 0:53:19]: Here's a picture of the um of the map from nineteen sixty three. [0:53:20, 0:53:23]: And the property is clearly zone uh MY. [0:53:29, 0:53:36]: It's another picture of the map from nineteen sixty one. And you can see the properties with my curse here is the zone zone um MY. [0:53:40, 0:53:50]: Stockbridge this is a stock bridge zoning map from uh also from nineteen sixty one, uh from a field survey showing that the it was circled is the M1 is light manufacturing. [0:53:53, 0:54:00]: There's another map from uh nineteen sixty three showing that the property was M1. The property has never been zoned heavy industrial. [0:54:04, 0:54:10]: It's another map from sixty three. Um and uh here's the updated map uh from nineteen eighty nine. [0:54:13, 0:54:15]: I steel zone M one. [0:54:17, 0:54:18]: Um [0:54:19, 0:54:27]: Two thousand and three and two thousand and seven zoning maps. Historic zoning maps from two thousand and three and two thousand and seven for the city of Stockbridge were [0:54:27, 0:54:47]: Were recently what were recently obtained from Henry County and they both show the truck parking parcels as being zoned M1. Once again, the tr the the parcels always zone light industrial. In addition, all other historic maps which the city's community development department has zone file shows the truck parking properties as being zone M1 or L I. [0:54:47, 0:54:47]: Yeah. [0:54:47, 0:55:07]: The same is true for the office parcel. At some point, the office parcel was rezoned to SR, its current zoning, but no maps or documents could be found which shows or stated that. The oldest available Henry County zoning ordinance from June 3, 1986, and it stated that within the M1 districts were to be nuisance free, although such use [0:55:07, 0:55:25]: Uses included the storage of heavy material, products, or equipment. Nothing was mentioned about allowing outdoor storage or the storage of parking or the parking of trucks or other vehicles. No mention was made of the M2 manufacturing or C three heavy commercial zoning districts either. The M2 [0:55:26, 0:55:46]: The M2 district at the time did allow rock, sand, or gravel distribution as well as truck terminals. Excerpts from the Henry County's 1986 zoning districts are provided for C three, M1, and M2. The C three and M2 districts provided for the commercial or industrial uses, which require larger land areas and the need for outside storage, but the M1 had no such. [0:55:45, 0:55:46]: That's pretty easy. [0:55:50, 0:55:51]: Here's proof of the excerpt. [0:55:53, 0:56:13]: Uh the overlay district. Um regarding overlay district, the city of Stockbridge current PMU Parkway mixed use overlay district began in 2022 with the adoption of the Unified Development Code. Its precursor was the city's highway corridor overlay district, which began in 2019 and was modeled modeled after Henry County's Highway Corridor District. [0:56:13, 0:56:17]: Emory County Corridor Overlay District, which began in twenty seventeen. [0:56:19, 0:56:29]: uh relevant business documents. Uh the applicant listed the business address as one twenty three Rock Quarry and the proposed business use as property rental. Um [0:56:30, 0:56:45]: Applicant's 2024 business license issued 124. The stated business type was gravel hauling local. No mention of truck parking. That was his last um business license. It stated he was a gravel hauling type business. [0:56:45, 0:56:54]: On 1724, the applicant listed the business address is 123 Rock Quarry Road, and the proposed business use was property rental, truck parking. [0:56:56, 0:57:16]: Applicants twenty twenty five business license issued that stated that the business site was gravel hauling local. Um three on three four twenty twenty five, three listed violations was were the presence of truck, car parts, the presence the presence of multiple junk vehicle and fence damage. It was cited by [0:57:16, 0:57:18]: Code enforcement for those three things. [0:57:20, 0:57:25]: Here's a copy of the applicant's business license. It's included in your package. Um [0:57:27, 0:57:36]: This was his business license as a uh 1124 stated it was gr and you can see the business type, it stated it was a gravel hauling local business. [0:57:40, 0:57:43]: So here's the notice of violation that was issued by [0:57:44, 0:57:47]: Code enforcement division on march fourth, twenty twenty five. [0:57:49, 0:57:50]: Um [0:57:50, 0:58:10]: The municipal court summons on uh 314-2025 stated the occupation tax OTC mandatory for operation and the applicant was scheduled to appear in court on May 20, May 16, 2025. The listed business address was 135 Rock Quarter Road and the stated parcels was S-27. [0:58:10, 0:58:22]: However, parcel S twenty seven zero one oh five thousand is owned by the ambassadors for Chris for Christ Ministries and it has stated [0:58:23, 0:58:28]: And it has three buildings on the property with the addresses of one twenty five, not one thirty five, Rockway Road. [0:58:28, 0:58:37]: Further, although the state is oning or C three heavy commercial is correct for 125 Rockwater Road. The form was supposed to be prepared, be prepared for 135. [0:58:37, 0:58:54]: Rock Quarry Road. There was no mention of the second truck parking lot on parcel S seventeen dash zero one O one six thousand, Northlestone Concrete, Company office building at one twenty three Rock Quarry Road. Yet the applicant relied upon this in his file and his appeal. [0:58:56, 0:59:00]: Here's a copy of the zona review form completed on March seventeenth, twenty twenty-five. [0:59:03, 0:59:23]: Um so basically to sum this up, um to sum to summarize this, the applicant um had a business license, a valid business license for a concrete hauling company. Uh sometimes in the past they changed from a concrete hauling company to create a truck to uh to use two parcels of land for truck parking without contacting the city or [0:59:23, 0:59:43]: or filing for any any paperwork or paying any occupational tax on the income from those truck parking uh terminals. So they just took it upon themselves to create truck parking, uh, which is not allowed in the Parkway mixed use overlay district. And uh staff does not have the authority to issue him a business license for this because code [0:59:43, 0:59:43]: Clearly. [0:59:44, 0:59:48]: does not allow truck parking in the PMU. So just to summarize the [0:59:50, 1:00:03]: All right, thank you, Mr. Anderson. Um so somehow years ago we didn't I mean w this came to light here recently, but years ago we never caught this, or somehow we never caught this, I guess, to to re redirect it and get it straight. [1:00:03, 1:00:23]: Yes, sir. Uh some reason I don't know what precipitated um code enforcement to pay them a business. Maybe it was just doing a random, um, but they went by there and checked their licenses and their and their occupational tax license at gravel holly instead of truck parking. So that was a big conflict right there. So the applicant took it upon himself sometimes. [1:00:23, 1:00:40]: time in the past to just create a a truck parking company on his own, never received paperwork from the city, never apply for occup occupational tax license for that type of operation. If the applicant had a came into the city, he would have found out that that use was prohibited and we and we wouldn't be where we are today. [1:00:42, 1:00:44]: Coun council, any questions, further questions, thoughts? [1:00:45, 1:01:05]: So I just wanna sum I just wanna understand what you're saying here. Basic is a is a construction company, a concrete hauling company, but this separate truck parking is not necessarily associated with the business. It's just separ it's it's truck parking. It's truck parking. Basically it's not [1:01:05, 1:01:20]: cement trucks, it's trucks. Yes, but they were under impression that they could use the business license that they had for Hullston Concrete Company to create a truck parking uh facility and that's not the case. [1:01:20, 1:01:33]: Okay, you also stated that d at no time had this particular um use been allowed. You went back to nineteen sixty three and stating that there was never any [1:01:35, 1:01:45]: It would have never been it would never have been, d to your knowledge. Allowed. Allowed. Yes, sir. Wow, you did a lot of research. Okay. All right. All right. Thank you. All right. [1:01:47, 1:01:48]: Ms. Robert, do you have any questions? [1:01:50, 1:01:54]: I have a whole lot of questions. Right, please. However [1:01:55, 1:01:56]: This is in my district. [1:01:57, 1:02:03]: I did receive notice from Mr. Anderson in regards to this matter um July third. [1:02:03, 1:02:06]: Everything that transpired prior to then. [1:02:06, 1:02:08]: And after then [1:02:09, 1:02:16]: I'm just now finding out about it. I didn't know anything about a court date, didn't know anything about an appeal until this meeting. [1:02:17, 1:02:18]: So I'm just listening. [1:02:19, 1:02:21]: Listening for all of the information. [1:02:21, 1:02:24]: Mr Anderson did share with me the memo. [1:02:24, 1:02:30]: um the zoning attorney for the city prepared. So I already know what [1:02:30, 1:02:37]: Her position is, but I want to hear all of the details. What I have consistently asked [1:02:38, 1:02:40]: Any matters associated or [1:02:41, 1:02:43]: Happens in my district. [1:02:43, 1:02:45]: I want to be the first to know. [1:02:45, 1:02:47]: So that I'm not blindsided. [1:02:49, 1:02:50]: This is in my district. [1:02:52, 1:02:54]: But nobody contacted me and asked me anything. [1:02:55, 1:02:57]: So to ask me here in the public meeting [1:02:58, 1:03:01]: I want to hear all the information. It was up front. [1:03:01, 1:03:18]: It was in the month. Not when it's time for me to make a decision on it. So I want to hear both sides. I want to hear all of the details before I can make a decision. It was included in the monthly report that I sent to each council member on a district by district each month. It was it was in that report several times. It didn't have [1:03:18, 1:03:24]: Did it have the information as regards to um what the courts [1:03:25, 1:03:29]: Probably not. Decision was? Probably not. [1:03:31, 1:03:36]: It didn't. Um so I just wanna hear all the information and um [1:03:37, 1:03:44]: You shared some good insight. Um I now understand that they had a business license for concrete [1:03:45, 1:03:45]: Company. [1:03:46, 1:03:48]: But the parcel that's in question here. [1:03:48, 1:03:49]: They've been using it. [1:03:50, 1:03:50]: As in [1:03:51, 1:03:51]: Trucking. [1:03:51, 1:03:52]: Cart. [1:03:52, 1:03:53]: Parking. [1:03:54, 1:03:55]: Or staging. [1:03:55, 1:03:56]: For trailers or [1:03:56, 1:03:58]: Chuts. I'm very familiar with the area. [1:03:59, 1:04:00]: So I'm [1:04:00, 1:04:02]: I'm clear about what we're doing. [1:04:03, 1:04:04]: Um right now. [1:04:04, 1:04:08]: And what's before us. I want to hear all sides. [1:04:09, 1:04:21]: If I could. Yes ma'am. Yes ma'am. All right. Any any did you have any comment at all? No. Okay. All right. So on that no, and I know uh so on that note then uh need the applicant uh to come forward to presentation, sir? [1:04:26, 1:04:46]: Let me just ask one more question. I'm sorry. So what you stated was that you um this particular thing, you you weren't aware of how it came forward or anything, correct? You stated that. Uh the code enforcement went by and checked their occupational tax license. Okay, that's okay. And that would and they saw that they had a different use than [1:04:46, 1:05:06]: What was currently occurring on the property. They had gravel hauling, but the code enforcement officer could clearly see truck parking out there. But nobody up here or in in in that you were aware of directed you to do so? No, no, I I wasn't aware of it until uh code enforcement went by. I mean the business, I mean it's been there before any of us probably was here. All right, thank you. [1:05:06, 1:05:06]: All right. [1:05:09, 1:05:11]: Name and address, sir, please. [1:05:12, 1:05:23]: Yes, sir. Good evening. Andy Welch, um 2200 Keys Ferry Court, McDonough, Georgia. Thank you to for the evening to be here and appreciate the opportunity to present um the other side of the coin. [1:05:24, 1:05:27]: Um I think we have a PowerPoint presentation for you and if not [1:05:28, 1:05:30]: I if my technical skills are [1:05:30, 1:05:37]: As bad as they typically are. I think I've got it. Let's see here. [1:05:38, 1:05:41]: All right, good. Go ahead. Yes. [1:05:41, 1:06:01]: Um and you have a copy here. Um just for the record, we uh we do have a package for you that we've given to you with the uh a table of contents of the information that we want you to to have. You'll notice in here that the PowerPoint presentation is included. We have uh submitted a letter to preserve our constitutional rights, which you're obligated to do for any [1:06:01, 1:06:21]: Zoning decision. We also have a affidavit of Mr. Mr. Raven, who's the owner of the property and owner of Huddleston Concrete. The affidavit of Michael Biggers is also included. We have certified photos of the subject property, certified copy of the zoning map, certified copy of chapter 3.16. [1:06:21, 1:06:38]: of the official code of stop bridge and certified copy of UDC 6.1.4 and UDC section 10.3. And we are appealing under 10.3, which allows for a review by the city council of a zoning decision that's been made by staff. [1:06:38, 1:06:40]: And so we're sitting here with a zoning question. [1:06:41, 1:06:42]: Um and then it [1:06:42, 1:06:46]: dovetails with that occupational tax. And what we'll be presenting to you today [1:06:47, 1:06:52]: In summary is that this this use of the property has been going on for four decades. [1:06:52, 1:07:12]: Um, it should be treated as a lawful, nonconforming use invested under Georgia law and under the Georgia Constitution and allowed to proceed. And we'll furthermore present to you the case law, eviden the case law that per that applies when looking at an occupational tax issue, occupational taxes or occupational certificates. [1:07:12, 1:07:15]: [4035.0, 4055.0]: element of the county. It's just a tax. And the law is clear about the tax. That tax cannot be conditionalized on any other reason of in the collecting of revenue unless you prescribe for it in your ordinances and you have not. So we'll go through that with you tonight and show you why you should reverse the the uh staff's decision and then grant us uh the [1:07:35, 1:07:37]: the non conforming use to allow us could can to continue. [1:07:37, 1:07:47]: Now I do have a proposal at the end of this that I think will resolve all the issues. Um so I have a solution that I'd like to try to provide to you as a as a means of settlement and compromise in this matter. [1:07:48, 1:08:08]: Um so background overall picture, just looking at the area. You'll see on your PowerPoint presentation. I hope it's on your screen. Um is it is it on your screen? It is. Okay, good. Um is just an overall view of this. You can see this is a heavily industrial area. Miss Barber, as you mentioned, you're familiar with this area. This is where the quarry is and uh [1:08:08, 1:08:28]: You know, decades and decades and decades ago, this is where you would see a lot of concrete manufacturing, pipe manufacturing. Some of that is still there. But that's been the historical nature of this area. Highly industrialized, used for quarries and used for manufacturing, used for concrete production. The subject property is in pink there because pink. [1:08:28, 1:08:48]: Pink is the designation for light industrial, which is what your zoning ordinance uses to designate that. You'll see the Ready Mix concrete, the Rinker Materials, Thomas Concrete, Vulcan Quarry, obviously. All these businesses located around the subject property and have been there probably for many decades. [1:08:48, 1:09:06]: Um mister the affidavit of Mr. Raven, which is included in your packet, states that the subject property has been owned and operated by Mr. Raven or Huddleston Concrete for concrete production and as a commercial truck parking lot for as long back as the nineteen eighties. So we've been been there for a long time. [1:09:07, 1:09:20]: And the Henry County zoning ordinances back in that time allowed for staff to give discretion as to whether or not the use would be compatible with that particular zoning. So it's probably why this has been able to continue for four decades. [1:09:21, 1:09:41]: Um looking back, and I'm just gonna give you some images. I couldn't go back any further than 1993. Um you know, we're so used to technology and being going back in aerials, but uh going back to nineteen ninety-three, you could see on this slide here that the property is shown to have uh the railroad tracks, obviously. You'll see the truck the tractor trailer uh [1:09:41, 1:09:45]: uh parking there located on this property. [1:09:45, 1:10:02]: Um and you also see uh the ready mixed concrete. In nineteen ninety-nine, same thing, just more there's more actually tractor trailers there. Uh in nineteen ninety-nine going ahead, I'm not gonna show you every single year, but it is attached to his affidavit. I'm just gonna go through a few of them. Two thousand and ten [1:10:02, 1:10:22]: So we've moved from the nineties. Uh he started in the eighties, we moved to the nineties, we're now two thousand ten, still being used as as uh for tractor trailer storage, uh truck parking. Then you have in nineteen in two thousand fifteen um the the city authorized and this was constructed uh from GDOT's permitting a [1:10:22, 1:10:24]: [4224.7, 4243.4]: Um to the property so they would have even better access to this property for purposes of the tractor trailer, the truck parking. So even as they're building the road and building the new bridge to go over the railroad tracks, all this is being designed and even this new entrance is being designed relative to the use of the property for truck parking. [1:10:44, 1:11:04]: Um tw 2023, I mean we're still in truck parking. Uh twenty-four, we're still visually in truck parking. So this has been going on for you know for for like I said, four decades. Um two thousand twenty-five, we're also in truck parking. So as you all know, the the law uh our constitution [1:11:04, 1:11:20]: in particular protects property owners and pretty much anyone from from someone passing a law and then trying to apply it to someone retroactively. So our constitution says that no there'll be no retroactive law shall be passed. So [1:11:20, 1:11:31]: No one, the city council, the general assembly, can pass a law that's gonna have retroactive application. So when you pass a zoning ordinance, it goes forward, not backwards. [1:11:31, 1:11:33]: Does it take something away from someone? [1:11:33, 1:11:35]: And the Georgia statutes in particular. [1:11:36, 1:11:43]: also state that the law prescribes only for future use a law cannot have retroactive operation. [1:11:44, 1:12:04]: Um and then furthermore, case law from the Georgia Supreme Court confirms this. Our constitution prohibits a legislative exercise of the police power that results in the passage of retrospective laws which injuriously affect the vested and we sometimes colloquially refer to as grandfathered rights. So vested [1:12:04, 1:12:19]: grandfather rights of citizens. And the Supreme Court has been particular to say that this prohibition on against retroactive impairment of vested or grandfather rights extends to the enactment of zoning regulations, so zoning regulations can't be applied backwards in time. [1:12:20, 1:12:29]: Um in that particular case the court had found that Southern States was building a landfill um and the the city council adopted some zoning and changed that. [1:12:30, 1:12:31]: And they were trying to prohibit. [1:12:32, 1:12:34]: the construction of the land hill landfill [1:12:35, 1:12:46]: um with their ordinances, but the court said no, you can't do that, you can't go back on them. They already had the um they're already in existence and they were moving forward with a permit and you couldn't take that away from them. [1:12:47, 1:13:07]: So we know that non-conforming uses are allowed to continue. And even your ordinances say this. So your UD UDC says that. It says actually in section 6.1.4, which is in your packet, that a lawful established use that becomes non-conforming upon or after the effective date of this unified development. [1:13:07, 1:13:23]: code uh that was dated march fourteenth I think of twenty twenty-two may continue. So your law already says look if you've got a nonconforming use you can continue. That's the case here. We have a we have a nonconforming use of the of the truck parking. [1:13:24, 1:13:43]: And what we're doing is just continuing that use. And your ordinance says we can do that. There are some conditions here, but none of those conditions apply. I did put them on the slide so you would see them, so that I wouldn't hide anything from you and just giving you part of the sta part of your ordinance and not showing all of it. But none of them apply. They apply to structures or non conforming uses that have been abandoned. [1:13:44, 1:13:55]: Now the staff report that is in your packet and that's been quoted I think tonight goes through a denial. It recommends the denial and it says that they haven't produced any evidence that the the operational um [1:13:55, 1:14:01]: the business license was applied to this particular these particular parcels. Now Huddleston Concrete [1:14:02, 1:14:22]: used to be uh one parcel where it went from the house and looped around to the other parcels. Um they sold to ready mixed concrete in the back. Uh they kept the truck parking which is always operated there as long as Huddleston's been there since the eight two th since nineteen eighties. So in this context and and they've always gotten [1:14:22, 1:14:33]: having their business licenses approved by the city. The the staff report says that the parcels are zoned L I and PMU. Now these are new zoning ordinances that you just adopted. [1:14:33, 1:14:46]: And so the the overlay district can't be applied retroactively to the nonconforming use. Um it does say that the parcels have always been zoned light industrial and light manufacturing. Now let's look at that. So we're looking at the zoning map. [1:14:47, 1:14:53]: And you'll see your zoning map on this slide here that talks about the subject property being LI. [1:14:55, 1:15:06]: And then a close up and you've seen this w the staff has presented this to you. This is from also from the staff's report showing the LI designation and the overlay uh district. So [1:15:07, 1:15:25]: But what's interesting is that your ordinance that was adopted in tw twenty twenty-two, section two point four eleven expressly says that commercial truck sorry, it's a little tight here for me to see it. Commercial parking, um, garages and lots are actually permitted within the LI. [1:15:25, 1:15:43]: the light industrial district. And then when you look at your table, table three point one, that also says under uses, truck parking lots is permitted under L I, P the P I right there. And and that's from your own ordinance showing that it actually is permitted for truck parking. [1:15:44, 1:15:44]: So [1:15:45, 1:15:52]: We don't think we're in violation of that. Uh, but even if you were to apply the overlay district to it, you'd be applying that retroactively. [1:15:53, 1:16:11]: Um and when you look at the definitions of the UDC, you'll see that it defines we see that commercial truck parking lots, when you talk about a commercial vehicle, it in it the definition includes expressly commercial tractor trailers. So a commercial vehicle on a commercial lot. [1:16:12, 1:16:13]: Which is permitted in L I [1:16:14, 1:16:15]: Is it [1:16:15, 1:16:19]: It contemplates it being tractor trailers expressly. [1:16:20, 1:16:38]: When we applied um in in in two thousand and twenty-four, and this is in July of two thousand twenty-four, here's our application. And you'll see in July of twenty two thousand twenty-four, the application for our business license that we've been applying for every single year without fail. [1:16:38, 1:16:54]: It does go back to the main office building. I I agree, but the main office building is just the office where where where Huddleson operates the rental of the land that's just there next down the block, I mean one property over, I think, is is the parking. [1:16:55, 1:17:03]: And in that application, you'll see on your slide, it says it was property rental, which is what he's doing, renting out spaces for tractor trailers, and truck parking. [1:17:04, 1:17:09]: So in the application to the city, that's what was applied for. And then on January first [1:17:10, 1:17:13]: the applications granted [1:17:13, 1:17:16]: And it is given an occupational tax certificate [1:17:17, 1:17:21]: Uh it does say on the certificate gravel hauling local, but that's not what he had applied for. [1:17:22, 1:17:36]: So he did actually apply for what he sought. The the issuance of it was from, you know, it says something else, and that was from one one two thousand twenty five. So he applied for it, he received it, the description is different than his own application. [1:17:37, 1:17:51]: And you look back in time just to show you it you know even the year before he'd also applied for it and received it. Now you can go back in time and there's lots and lots of of uh occupational certificates, um, but we didn't want to put all of them in the record. But [1:17:51, 1:18:01]: they have been getting the tax certificates at the same place. And mind you, there's no concrete production there. It's just the office. It's just the house that you showed that you saw earlier. [1:18:01, 1:18:06]: And that house is where the office is that then sends out the leases for the tractor trailers. [1:18:07, 1:18:27]: Uh staff had recommended um denial of this, but even in the staff report on the letter, it says that um that actually the truck parking, uh truck repair are only allowed in industrial zoning districts. Well that's a that's right. The the truck parking is allowed in light industrial pursuant to the permitted uses of your current code. [1:18:27, 1:18:27]: [4708.7, 4718.1]: So when we look back at occupational taxes, and that's what brought this all up, remember that's the reason why we're here is over this occupational tax review. And so when we look at this [1:18:38, 1:18:44]: The question of whether or not the occupational tax should certificate should have been revoked or denied. [1:18:45, 1:18:47]: It was done so based upon a look at the zoning ordinance. [1:18:49, 1:18:57]: And the staff concluded that it that they're gonna deny it because it didn't fit within the the the planned mixed use uh district. [1:18:58, 1:19:08]: But your but in order for that to be the basis of denying an occupational tax certificate, it needs to say in your ordinances for occupational taxes [1:19:09, 1:19:12]: that that can be n denied based upon a zombie. [1:19:13, 1:19:17]: And your ordinance, your law on occupational taxes, says nothing about that. [1:19:18, 1:19:28]: And in fact, the Supreme Court of Georgia has spoken to this and said the city city staff can't deny an occupational tax certificate based upon circumstances that aren't [1:19:28, 1:19:30]: Listed in your ordinance. [1:19:31, 1:19:34]: So you don't have the authority to deny it because of a zoning question. [1:19:34, 1:19:38]: Both of these cases that I put on the slide speak to that point. [1:19:39, 1:19:46]: When you look at your business and occupational tax licenses in that your chapters, chapter three point one six [1:19:46, 1:19:56]: Nowhere in that entire chapter does it say that the uh that a business license or business uh occupational tax certificate can be denied because of zoning. [1:19:57, 1:19:57]: Nowhere. [1:19:58, 1:20:03]: So there's no authority to do that. So the denial is was is without legal authority and ultra virus. [1:20:04, 1:20:06]: So when we look at this [1:20:06, 1:20:15]: That's that that's a significant legal problem for this denial. And we we would ask you not to grant the denial, obviously, and to overturn that denial because. [1:20:15, 1:20:17]: Your your occupation tax orders doesn't allow for it. [1:20:19, 1:20:35]: But furthermore, there's damages that can occur to the property if we're not allowed to continue to operate as a nonconforming use uh for truck parking. And I'm gonna make you aware of those things because we bring them up in our constitutional rights letter that we presented to the mayor and to the clerk. [1:20:35, 1:20:46]: In this one, we we wanted to make sure that you know you can overregulate something, you could take away rights with a a zoning ordinance. And when you do that, it actually damages the property. [1:20:47, 1:20:49]: And when it damages the property, the [1:20:50, 1:20:53]: property owner is entitled to monetary damages. [1:20:54, 1:20:54]: So [1:20:55, 1:21:02]: I've given you two cases. One is outfront media. That explains that even the the tenants can have a claim against the city. [1:21:02, 1:21:13]: uh the landowner has a right to a claim against the city. And then in diversified holdings, uh the current Chief Justice of the S of the Georgia Supreme Court, Justice Peterson, said that look [1:21:14, 1:21:22]: In our Georgia Constitution, it actually says that property shall not be taken or damaged. [1:21:23, 1:21:24]: For public purposes. [1:21:25, 1:21:33]: And if you apply your zoning ordinance and you apply this occupational tax denial to us, you are damaging that that property right. [1:21:33, 1:21:34]: And so [1:21:35, 1:21:55]: We had an appraiser and his the appraised value is here, his affidavit is here, and so and so his sworn testimony is here plus his report is included in that. And in that he comes to the conclusion after looking at the operations of the truck parking um rental part of this uh property, and comes to the clue conclusion that if he if [1:21:55, 1:21:57]: Not allowed to continue. [1:21:58, 1:22:03]: Then that would amount to a taking of one million dollars in value away from the property. [1:22:04, 1:22:07]: That's included in the r in for you in the record. [1:22:08, 1:22:09]: We'll also note that [1:22:10, 1:22:18]: What I'm what I wanted to propose to you, and I said that from the outset, look, I've I've got all of this that I think supports the legal out outcome that we're asking for. [1:22:18, 1:22:30]: But I also know that the the city and and being a city attorney myself, I understand that there there's an importance in passing the ordinances and trying to implement a new plan. [1:22:31, 1:22:34]: You ch you're always trying to change and enhance [1:22:34, 1:22:43]: Your district, your city, always. And zoning ordinance is a tool to do that. You can't apply it backwards, but you can apply it forward. [1:22:43, 1:22:51]: And so I I've talked to my client and and and speaking to him sort of as a city attorney, understanding that policy. [1:22:52, 1:22:59]: I asked him if he would be willing to try to resolve this case because if we go into litigation, we're gonna be in courts for at least two years. [1:23:00, 1:23:03]: We're talking about significant amount of money and significant amount of time. [1:23:03, 1:23:04]: And I'm thinking [1:23:05, 1:23:05]: You know. [1:23:07, 1:23:08]: Mr. Reagan, why why would you do that? [1:23:08, 1:23:09]: You know [1:23:10, 1:23:11]: And and and and his answer is [1:23:12, 1:23:13]: Look at the appraisal, it was a lot of money. [1:23:14, 1:23:15]: I get that. [1:23:15, 1:23:19]: But what I've proposed here is for your consideration tonight is that [1:23:20, 1:23:27]: The applicant proposes, and it's in his affidavit, so he's he he has sworn that this is where he is good with this outcome tonight. [1:23:27, 1:23:32]: Uh is an offer of compromise and settlement so that would avoid the litigation, that's number one. I mean [1:23:33, 1:23:34]: Obviously I'm a lawyer. [1:23:35, 1:23:42]: Um, you know, the uh my ability to pay for my kids' college tuition is contingent upon me being able to collect fees. [1:23:43, 1:23:52]: But I'm also in the business of making solutions, right? Um th there's no need to waste time and resources, especially taxpayer resources, when w can be avoided. [1:23:53, 1:23:55]: So we're offering an a solution. [1:23:55, 1:24:09]: And so we want to avoid the litigation and and avoid the inverse condemnation that we would be entitled to ask for and the one million dollars of damages that we would be asking for if you proceeded with the denial. And what we're asking you to do is to make a motion. [1:24:09, 1:24:20]: That would allow Mr. Raven and Huddleston Concrete Company to continue to operate its commercial truck parking lot business at its current location until september eighth, twenty. [1:24:20, 1:24:22]: Twenty thirties, that's five years. [1:24:22, 1:24:24]: So five years of use lets him [1:24:24, 1:24:26]: Mr. Raven, would you stand up? [1:24:28, 1:24:32]: So m mister Raven, um looking long term. [1:24:33, 1:24:37]: thinks that this is a reasonable use to allow him to phase this out. [1:24:38, 1:24:43]: He's got tenants, people that are paying to use this property for the tractor trailers. [1:24:44, 1:24:50]: And so when when this happens, um it gives him time to phase those leases out. [1:24:50, 1:25:03]: And not have repercussions for avoiding leases. And this allows him to continue. It gives him a reasonable time to phase this out. And then at that point on September eighth, so five years from today. [1:25:04, 1:25:05]: The next day [1:25:06, 1:25:06]: No more. [1:25:07, 1:25:13]: It would cease. It's in his affidavit, so it's he's sworn to it that that's exactly where he would be. [1:25:14, 1:25:21]: And thereafter the the non conforming use would terminate and cease and he would no longer be seeking that, you know, any use of that whatsoever. [1:25:22, 1:25:38]: We think that's a reasonable compromise, we think that's a reasonable solution. It gets him through the next five years um for his planning purposes, um, for his tenants, and then it avoids all the litigation, it avoids being tied up in the courts um and the potential damages that he would suffer. [1:25:38, 1:25:41]: We're trying to come with a solution, not just [1:25:41, 1:25:56]: Not just fight over this. But if that's the direction the council wants us to go, then we're prepared to do that. I'm trying to come up with a a way a way out for everybody that allows you as the councilman for that district to know definitively [1:25:57, 1:25:59]: That use is gone in five years. [1:26:00, 1:26:01]: [5161.8, 5162.3]: You know. [1:26:03, 1:26:04]: At no cost to the city. [1:26:04, 1:26:05]: Right, zero cost. [1:26:06, 1:26:22]: Um so with that that's what we've asked for. If they if you have questions I'd be happy to take them, but I really appreciate your time tonight. And I know I bored you, some of you I could tell were dozing off and I'm sorry about that, but I I wanted to make sure everybody was um it was fully informed as I could. [1:26:23, 1:26:29]: Ms. Barber Goy, please. I wanted to ask that non-conforming use date. [1:26:30, 1:26:31]: Is that negotiable? [1:26:33, 1:26:34]: Uh it it [1:26:34, 1:26:42]: What do you have in mind? I I th I think the answer is w we're w we're here to try to work with you. Um and that's why we proposed something we thought was reasonable. [1:26:43, 1:26:52]: And I appreciate that. Yes, ma'am. I do. Um and I but I may have to step out with m Mr Raven if I could. If you if you have something counterproposal, I may need to talk to him out in the hallway if that's all right. [1:26:52, 1:26:54]: Okay. Um [1:26:54, 1:26:58]: Thank you. Yes. I appreciate the compromise. [1:26:59, 1:27:00]: I'll just [1:27:00, 1:27:04]: А вам є тоно, а нестаювц. [1:27:04, 1:27:07]: Батар Ситті осон. [1:27:07, 1:27:07]: Um [1:27:08, 1:27:11]: for use and just what we want to [1:27:11, 1:27:14]: see our downtown look like. [1:27:15, 1:27:19]: I understand what the zoning requirements were decades ago. [1:27:21, 1:27:24]: But that's one of our major corridors, the gateway. [1:27:25, 1:27:26]: Into our downtown. [1:27:27, 1:27:30]: We really want to revitalize our downtown. [1:27:31, 1:27:35]: We want to realize the full potential of a true downtown. [1:27:37, 1:27:44]: Um we've got several project well, a major road construction project along the Rock Query Road. [1:27:44, 1:27:45]: Coming up. [1:27:45, 1:27:47]: Um we're all excited about it. [1:27:48, 1:27:50]: And we're looking forward to potential. [1:27:51, 1:27:52]: Of that entire corridor. [1:27:53, 1:27:53]: So [1:27:54, 1:27:57]: I'm thankful that you all are willing to [1:27:57, 1:27:58]: Compromise. [1:27:59, 1:28:01]: Um and negotiate. [1:28:01, 1:28:03]: You know, something fair. [1:28:04, 1:28:07]: For everybody. So thank you. I appreciate that. [1:28:07, 1:28:08]: Yes, man. [1:28:08, 1:28:09]: Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [1:28:10, 1:28:27]: Um, yes. I see um the applications from twenty twenty when was the first citation of improper use of the property? What year was that? Twenty five. So twenty twenty five was when we realized that trucks shouldn't be p there? Okay. But I [1:28:27, 1:28:28]: I see that [1:28:29, 1:28:36]: In twenty twenty three we started denying well, when was the first denial on the application? [1:28:36, 1:28:40]: Oh for business purposes. I don't think it was until twenty twenty five. [1:28:40, 1:28:43]: I thought it was I see one at twenty twenty four. [1:28:44, 1:28:46]: And I see [1:28:47, 1:28:52]: That's when the first the on twenty twenty four is the first one I see that states truck parking. [1:28:53, 1:29:04]: Everything else says So that was the application you have to you have to file before October. Mm-hmm. So it was filed in twenty twenty four and then denied in twenty twenty five. [1:29:04, 1:29:05]: Okay. [1:29:05, 1:29:25]: Yes. So the prior applications, I don't see any copies of those or what was stated was what were they listed for for perp business purposes. Do you have by chance have a copy? I don't I I don't I think the staff had presented one up there, maybe a previous one. Um and it said I think property rental or something like that. I can't remember what it said on there. [1:29:25, 1:29:28]: Okay, so I'm not sure. [1:29:47, 1:29:49]: Normal. [1:29:51, 1:29:55]: So that's the denial from twenty twenty five at the March uh [1:30:00, 1:30:12]: I guess my question I'm trying to determine is at what point were there indications that this was used as a trucking parking lot prior to twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five? [1:30:12, 1:30:13]: Never. [1:30:14, 1:30:24]: Okay. And Ma may I answer o other than the obvious use of it, uh that's been there since the nineteen eighties. Um [1:30:25, 1:30:33]: Th that that's what we w would say. I mean i if i i i as you drive by Rock Hory Road, you you can see the pictures of the trucks being [1:30:34, 1:30:35]: Okay. [1:30:35, 1:30:45]: I well I saw that and then I saw like the history both of you presented which was great use for me, M one and M two. I see [1:30:45, 1:30:58]: trucks during nineteen ninety three, I believe those trucks. And I I see them go beyond that date. But I was more so interested in what the property was actually zoned for. Did they just [1:30:58, 1:31:00]: overlook it, you know, at some point [1:31:01, 1:31:11]: a you know, it was discovered, hey, this is not the right zoning for this, this should have you know, never occurred. So my concern is w at what point was it [1:31:11, 1:31:14]: Had have we ever have they ever [1:31:14, 1:31:33]: Have has your a c client ever provided notice that this was for the purpose of a truck a trucking parking lot? That was one of my con that's one of my concerns.'Cause when I look at the zonings and um looked at some of the things our attorney put together and our um [1:31:34, 1:31:38]: community development director put together not one of these [1:31:39, 1:31:47]: have the use of or it states it doesn't have the use of commercial um uh or uh uh truck parking. [1:31:47, 1:31:50]: However, I I did make no [1:31:50, 1:31:53]: that you um had mentioned that [1:31:54, 1:31:58]: Part of our zoning includes commercial parking lot. [1:31:59, 1:32:01]: I I mean pr commercial um [1:32:02, 1:32:22]: parking and par and and parking lot and I don't see that. I see Mr. Anderson saying no that's not the case. Um another important point was that this business was [1:32:22, 1:32:41]: never lawfully established. So and it was on two the only business license they have is for the parcel in which the office is owned. The other two parcels have no OTC up um business license associated with it at all for the entire time they've been there. So they just took it upon themselves to create a truck parking situation. [1:32:41, 1:32:48]: Okay. And uh they don't have and our and our attorney stated they do not have vested rights. And she she stated stated case law as well. [1:32:48, 1:33:02]: I I did see the case law that she stated and um I agree with that case law, specifically because the lot that the business is on is not the actual lot with the the other two lots, those are two separate lots. [1:33:04, 1:33:23]: That are not acclude um included or part of the business. And that's now that is concerning to me. And another thing, Councilmember is they've never paid occupational taxes for those truck parking rentals for all the for if they've been there forty years, they would owe the city back taxes for forty years. [1:33:23, 1:33:33]: Okay. We we I we have been paying and that's it's actually in there. The amounts that you see in the application of about two hundred and eighty seven thousand two hundred and eighty seven thousand dollars is the gross revenue from [1:33:33, 1:33:35]: From the rentals. [1:33:35, 1:33:39]: Uh so that's been stated in in all the applications that have gone forward and [1:33:39, 1:33:41]: Remember, the the certificates are going [1:33:42, 1:33:46]: For it I mean the the burden is for them to show that we haven't paid them uh [1:33:46, 1:33:47]: There's no there's no proof of that. [1:33:48, 1:33:56]: Um what we have is the actual payment. We have the application and we have the approval granting us a occupational tax certificate. [1:33:56, 1:34:00]: Он джани ферсто, твари твариф. Со диссис а ревокійшов да. [1:34:01, 1:34:19]: Based on Zonny. It's it he has he's paid taxes for the um occupational tax certificate that was issued to Huddleston Concrete on that one parcel where the business license is is is associated with. But the other two parcels, there have not been any occupational taxes paid for those two parcels. [1:34:19, 1:34:39]: And those two parcels are two separate parcel parcels. Three separate parcels. There's three parcels out. There's no taxes have been paid for those other two parcels where the truck park parking is. So uh from our from our understanding is the money that he's paid was for the Hullston concrete company for that one parcel of land. But occupational taxes are not property taxes. [1:34:39, 1:34:50]: They're not tied the y you have a business and you may have a law firm that works here and they pay an occupational tax or actually a a a nominal fee under your occupational. [1:34:50, 1:35:10]: For that law firm, if they have another location within the jurisdiction or even another location elsewhere, you don't pay it over and over again. You pay it one time at one address, even if you have multiple venues. So you don't get charged based upon location. It's based upon the business operation and your revenues. And so that's what's been reported. [1:35:10, 1:35:16]: And that's what's been paid. And the revenues are derived off of the truck parking rentals. [1:35:16, 1:35:24]: So it's it's just named Huddleston Concrete because it used to be back in the day Huddleston concrete before it became Ready Mix behind it. [1:35:24, 1:35:29]: But since then it's been it's been operated since that sale as as just a parking. [1:35:30, 1:35:33]: Well, my concern is that there is no [1:35:36, 1:35:47]: The the new applications say parking. That's so and the the old ones don't. And that's I I get what you're saying in regards to the business part. I I totally get that. And that's [1:35:48, 1:35:53]: Um, I can agree with that, but I am concerned that [1:35:54, 1:36:01]: Prior to now, there has never been um any indication of parking rental. [1:36:02, 1:36:08]: And that the zoning for this this entire time has been [1:36:08, 1:36:17]: goes all ba way to back to M one and M two and then we have a little light industrial that you know they change up on but never [1:36:19, 1:36:38]: for parking trucks, vehicles. That's where that's that's where I'm torn. I'm torn between the I mean just that little part. If I had a little bit more information, if there was more of a a description in some of the previous applications, I I need some previous applications. [1:36:38, 1:36:40]: Um [1:36:40, 1:36:48]: Um and if I had something that said parking rental, um, just like the other the new ones actually indicate. [1:36:49, 1:36:50]: But it's not [1:36:50, 1:36:52]: The question is to me [1:36:54, 1:36:57]: Whether or not the owner knew at the time that [1:36:57, 1:37:02]: that had they put parking rental in those previous applications, that it would be denied. [1:37:03, 1:37:06]: You know, and I I don't know if they would or not. [1:37:06, 1:37:08]: I I'm not accusing anyone. [1:37:08, 1:37:09]: I'm just [1:37:10, 1:37:12]: I I wanna go strictly by [1:37:12, 1:37:16]: what it's owned for and what the application was stated for. [1:37:16, 1:37:21]: And I totally understand. I I'm I've said that before. I remember this coming up. [1:37:21, 1:37:34]: And it's an unfortunate situation. I I think we have a different uh a code enforcement that started looking at our businesses and actually, you know, at at some point may there could have easily been oversight. [1:37:34, 1:37:37]: or I don't know how many warnings we've received in the past, but [1:37:40, 1:37:42]: uh people operate [1:37:42, 1:37:53]: illegally all the time and they get away with it for a long time. And then when that day comes, that day comes. And I just wanna make I I I'm just more so [1:37:53, 1:38:13]: Curious as to when we were placed on on on actual application notice that this is the type of business that wanted to be ran. That's all I I my biggest concern here is. Okay, I got a I got a thought here. Um if we've decided collectively to take on your proposal, that means that the I'm assuming that means that the [1:38:13, 1:38:21]: We don't change anything in reference to the designation of where these parcels are located. That means the parcel the the designation remains the same. [1:38:22, 1:38:30]: Yes, sir. Um staff would be amenable to a one-year phase out. I'm sorry, say again, please. I said staff would be amenable to a one-year phase out. [1:38:30, 1:38:48]: I see. Uh okay. I think that asks a little bit of what Miss Barber's asking for to a certain degree as well, I think. Um w what what does it even another crazy question for you, Ryan. I mean, does it even make sense to logically to even think about changing the the the designation at all? [1:38:48, 1:39:01]: Um I mean I'm just asking your personal professional opinion. I mean general questions. The development trends in the area indicate that that property would be best served to be zoned something else. Uh in the past [1:39:01, 1:39:09]: Like in the sixties or seventies, yeah, it could have been zone heavy industrial. But right now the development trends and patterns in the area are [1:39:09, 1:39:29]: Are changing. Um so and it's not in align with our strategic plan or our comp plan or other things that we have going on, other city initiatives. So um so where you where were you speaking of a city initiated rezoning, Mayor or what? Well I was just wondering, I'm just throwing it out here just to get an idea that it whether it would make logical sense to even change the zone. [1:39:29, 1:39:35]: But obviously it doesn't make good sense. I just thought I asked you to do that. Okay. But uh [1:39:37, 1:39:57]: I mean, um to work with the applicant to to phase it out wouldn't be a bad idea. Um instead of just abruptly ending it, maybe but not five years. I mean uh one to two year, uh maybe a one year phase out. Um, but a five year cause uh Rock Road w uh road expansion would be complete by then. Oh absolutely. [1:39:57, 1:40:17]: So um the property could well, I'm not saying what it's probably could be used for, but um the truck parking wouldn't fit in with um with with our future plan. Okay. So uh just for clarification again to follow up on what Ms. Gann has indicated. So if truck parking had been indicated in your presentation. [1:40:17, 1:40:19]: It would have been denied. Is that correct? [1:40:20, 1:40:21]: Yes, sir. [1:40:21, 1:40:31]: Okay, so and then to follow up again, it it was just indicated, uh as Miss Gantt indicated, it was changed recently. [1:40:31, 1:40:51]: recently they applied for truck parking. I the business was in operation for almost forty years on two parcels of land that had nothing to do with the Huddleston concrete company. Right. And and as you have s stated, Rockory Road is in the process of being widened. I would say that property would probably be worth a lot more once that widening is done. And then according [1:40:51, 1:41:11]: with what is coming and the trends in the area. So um I'm not sh sure if uh again, I think you said um maybe a year phase out. Yes, that's what staff would recognize. The staff is recommending a year phase out. Yes sir. And certainly I think that would be again it as Ms. Gand has indicated, uh and I've seen this and we've got to [1:41:11, 1:41:31]: We've had this come to us many a time. People have been operating incorrectly or without the correct license or what have you for years. And then is it when that day comes, the day of reckoning comes, then we have to deal with it at that point. So, and based on where [1:41:31, 1:41:50]: What you said legal backs, the zoning attorney for the city backs the decision that has been made to end it immediately. Yes, sir. The basic her basic assumption is they do not have vested rights. They do not have vested rights. [1:41:50, 1:42:10]: Okay, I think we had a similar situation that was uh on Martin Luther King's seritage next to uh do you recall that, Miss Kent? Next to uh the transfer station. That property was being used for truck parking right next to the transfer station, but it was never really zoned for that. Right. I remember that. [1:42:10, 1:42:30]: So I think this is there was another situation where it wasn't really anything that prompt I think would have prompted it, but it was I think the city was looking at the transfer station and then the master parks plan for the city on that particular area. And then they looked at the zoning and realized that the property next to the transfer station. [1:42:30, 1:42:50]: did not have any zoning, but they were parking trucks there too. So this situation is not unique in that aspect and that well I think we had handled it I think in a similar fashion uh at that time. So in in understanding that I think maybe they need to have a conversation about [1:42:50, 1:42:56]: out the one year phase out or something to see whether or not. [1:42:57, 1:43:17]: Right. And so I would think that maybe s we'd wanna recess for a minute while they have a discussion or something and not not yet, sir. Not yet. After once we get once we get to that point to be able to discuss what the options are,'cause, you know, certainly the staff's proposal is strong and the legal opinion for the city is is [1:43:17, 1:43:22]: They don't have vested rights and this is kinda where we are right now. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:43:24, 1:43:30]: Um thank you, Councilwoman Gantt. Kinda you gave me a lot of clarity. Um [1:43:30, 1:43:31]: Because [1:43:32, 1:43:35]: according to the uses or how it's been used. [1:43:36, 1:43:37]: So you [1:43:37, 1:43:40]: It's a tractor rental. [1:43:41, 1:43:42]: Business. [1:43:42, 1:43:52]: track the trailer trucks like eighteen wheels. Okay, so they're renting tractor trailers? Parking. Parking, yep. They they're renting spaces for people to park their track the trailer. [1:43:52, 1:43:55]: And then there's also the concrete [1:43:55, 1:43:57]: Mixing and hauling. [1:43:57, 1:44:17]: That that's out of business. That's the fun it's not in it's not in it's not active anymore. That that went out and they just changed it to a um a truck rental facility on their own. That that's not that's not accurate. The the the the Huddleston concrete was located and I show you it it's located behind [1:44:17, 1:44:32]: So the truck park has always been fronting on Rock Quarry. Um and then behind that is what is the old is the Ready Mix plant for concrete and that was hustled in concrete before it was sold to Rattles to Ready Mix. So the concrete's been there and it was operated as a concrete facility. [1:44:33, 1:44:43]: when Huddleston had it, as well as the truck parking. Um but so it's n it's no longer operating as a concrete mix. Huddleston is no longer operating the concrete facility, so they sold that. [1:44:44, 1:44:45]: Oh. [1:44:45, 1:44:48]: Okay, that gives me a different perspective then. So it's [1:44:48, 1:44:51]: really being used just for tractor trailer parking. [1:44:52, 1:44:54]: It has been since the eighties, yes. Okay. [1:44:55, 1:44:55]: Okay. [1:44:56, 1:45:02]: Thank you for that. Um I do I I do um support um [1:45:03, 1:45:05]: Continuing the discussions um [1:45:06, 1:45:14]: with attorneys on an amenable uh phase out. Um maybe one year might [1:45:16, 1:45:23]: I'll allow the attorneys to discuss that. St stand by Mr. Sir, did you have any comment at all? [1:45:23, 1:45:35]: No, just echoing the same thing. At what what was the year that Ready Mix was sold? Well it was sold, Holderston was sold to Ready Mix. I think it was sold in ninety four. Nineteen ninety four. [1:45:35, 1:45:48]: Yes, I think that's right. And it began exclusive uh truck parking right after that in ninety five? No, sir. It it was that it was doing truck parking before that before the Yes. Okay. [1:45:48, 1:45:56]: 'Cause and just historically, uh mr anderson was talking a little bit about this just very so briefly was [1:45:56, 1:46:06]: When the when the quarry was established, um there were ancillary businesses that that spun off as a result of having that gravel right there. [1:46:06, 1:46:26]: So everything along that, which is why it's called Rock Quarry Road, you know what I mean? Everything that was fronting the road and the railroad tracks was in the business of producing things from the concrete, whether it was literally concrete or concrete pipe or the gravel shipments, the sand, you know, producing sand for distribution. [1:46:26, 1:46:42]: is sand and sales of sand, all of those things, and I showed that in my presentation, all the different businesses that have been there. Um and those and there were more of them, of course, back in the day. But over time, obviously those things have slowly phased out. Uh they can be made cheaper elsewhere, those kinds of things. So [1:46:43, 1:46:52]: Just one second please. Um I'm gonna make sure you are you any more questions? Yeah, that that kinda ans that kinda puts me in the same position. Um I'm I'm at a state now where I'm [1:46:53, 1:47:13]: In agreement with the uh staff's decision. So um ready to move forward. Okay. Go ahead, Mr. Elizabeth. So I just wanted to clarify we're legal over there. I mean we've been talking about this going back and forth. What is the process of this hearing? When does is the the testimony's been going on for quite some time. We've had delivery [1:47:13, 1:47:16]: [6441.9, 6446.6]: Mr. Quentin Poster? [1:47:26, 1:47:35]: And is there public participation? Yeah, I I will open that up, sir. Okay, I just I didn't know, I'm asking. Yeah, it's a public hearing. I'll open it up in just a second. [1:47:35, 1:47:44]: Morning, Mayor I'm good evening, Mayor and Council. I would just ask that once the evidence is closed that we have a brief executive session and then decide what steps to take from there. [1:47:45, 1:47:45]: All right. [1:47:46, 1:48:02]: Right. Uh Ms. Gantton, you had one more question this one? The other two lots uh are owned by the same person that owns the grav that owned the gravel halling. I mean the concrete. Mr. Raven and Huddleston, yes. Okay. Well and then that [1:48:03, 1:48:16]: And I can see that, but I again my only concern is that up until recently has it the business been described as a parking rental as well. That is the only [1:48:17, 1:48:20]: concern I have with that and um [1:48:22, 1:48:34]: You know, which leads me to believe that because if they if you put something down saying it's a park and rental, even back in the nineteen nineties, then the the city would have denied it because it's not zoned for it. [1:48:35, 1:48:37]: I c and I can't find anything. [1:48:38, 1:48:40]: That says that we allow I know [1:48:40, 1:48:42]: What you have mentioned is [1:48:42, 1:48:49]: But I've looked, I mean, I although I just got it, I try to read real quick and I appreciate the details and the timelines from both parties. [1:48:50, 1:49:10]: But as I look at both of these, I don't see where that is allowed. And so I have to agree with staff and our attorneys um that we we we do need a phase out plan. Um I don't know if it could be five years. I don't think I think that's a quite a long time considering we've had [1:49:10, 1:49:17]: This going on, the the first denial of the application was back in 2020. Uh [1:49:17, 1:49:29]: Twenty twenty five. Okay, twenty twenty five March of this year. Well the first note uh what I what I saw was an application in t well the uh okay, it was denied, but I saw the notice [1:49:30, 1:49:32]: In twenty twenty. [1:49:33, 1:49:34]: Four. [1:49:35, 1:49:38]: I saw the actual change of putting in [1:49:38, 1:49:41]: the property uh you know the truck rental portion. [1:49:41, 1:49:43]: My concern is [1:49:44, 1:49:49]: There definitely needs to be a phase out because that's not the direction we're going in. Um [1:49:52, 1:49:52]: But [1:49:54, 1:50:01]: But for had this truck, this uh concrete company, which is no longer present at all. [1:50:03, 1:50:04]: Had placed his [1:50:04, 1:50:14]: in its original applications years ago, that it was going to also rent space for eighteen wheelers to be, whether or not [1:50:15, 1:50:23]: they would have been allowed that license. And looking at that zoning ordinance, that the way the zoning code was written then. [1:50:26, 1:50:44]: And looking at the presentations I have now, I don't believe that whoever our people were at that time would have would have a uh approved that business to go there. Not for that purpose, but they would approve it for the concrete purpose. And so [1:50:45, 1:50:53]: That's what I'm having to look at. That's cause I it's tough. He's been in business for a while and I get it. I I sympathize. [1:50:54, 1:51:01]: But I have to go by the law, and I I definitely have to do what's in the best interest of Stockbridge. [1:51:02, 1:51:02]: Um [1:51:03, 1:51:07]: So that weighs heavy and it's a business owner. You know, I respect all business owners, it's hard. [1:51:08, 1:51:12]: But I I'm looking at the totality of every single thing that's laid out. [1:51:13, 1:51:19]: And if they if it wasn't placed in the application and they didn't approve it based on that, even if they put it there for years. [1:51:20, 1:51:23]: adverse possession or on constructive notice. [1:51:25, 1:51:33]: It's still not right. And so I have to lean towards phasing it out and I'm gonna have to agree with my colleagues on that. [1:51:33, 1:51:44]: Okay, there's no other comments right now. I'd like to open up for public hearing. Well ha it is a public hearing actually. So any comments for the Hulson Company comment positive comments for what's going off on my far left side. [1:51:45, 1:51:46]: Anybody in the middle? [1:51:47, 1:51:49]: Anybody from our far right side? [1:51:49, 1:51:54]: Comments for. They comments against what's happening right now. My far left side. [1:51:54, 1:51:55]: In the middle. [1:51:56, 1:52:09]: The far right side. No comments for or against. So I'll close that piece off of the public hearing. So on that note then uh I've uh been requested in a sense that uh I need a motion to go into exactly the session before I make a final decision. [1:52:09, 1:52:20]: Talk about this motion to go into executive session for personnel, real estate, and litigation. And cyber. Is there s second you second it, Ms. Gantt? I second. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [1:52:20, 1:52:28]: All right. We're gonna go on execut. I'm sorry, sir. I don't have any the only the only evidence I have is what I presented. So I I don't know what [1:52:29, 1:52:36]: You all are considering. I've not seen a a document other than the presentation from staff. I don't know what's being considered. [1:52:37, 1:52:56]: Well so I can't comment on any so sort of depri depriving my client the ability to evaluate what you're considering, right? And comment on that because staff has my report, you all have my report, I've uh presented all that to you so that there's an opportunity to cross examine, if you will, to look at that information. [1:52:57, 1:53:05]: But I haven't seen anything other than the report. So if there is and all I'm asking is if there is anything else that the city council is considering. [1:53:05, 1:53:25]: I I'd like to know what that is now before you go into executive service. Okay, what I got it, sir. I I think I got this here. But what it amounts to, sir, based on the comments of the Council of Inmate, we talked about a phase you talk about a a five year phase out type program that the owner has done an affidavit on somewhere to. The discussion is that the uh I think a general consensus we're looking at ph a phase out pro [1:53:25, 1:53:32]: uh time frame, but not necessarily five years. Something a lot smaller, shorter than five years is what I'm gathering. And that's what w based on our attorney [1:53:33, 1:53:42]: And the conversation is happening here, that's what we'll go discuss and come back out for further discussion after you come out of the second session. That's what I believe is happening here. Okay, further clarify presentation there. [1:53:42, 1:53:46]: You develop a direct A, that's the entirety of the evidence. [1:53:46, 1:53:55]: Okay. All right. Then that's that that's I'm sorry. That's what I wanted to know. Cause I wanted to make sure that Mike basically needed to give them a copy of your report. That's what [1:53:55, 1:54:02]: That was that was evidence. That's the entirety of the evidence. Okay, that that's thank you. And that's that's in their record. [1:54:04, 1:54:15]: What you gave them and make sure you give a copy of the clerk, that's your copy of the record. The copy of our record is what they already have, the review materials, what the department has, which [1:54:17, 1:54:37]: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Attorney. I appreciate that. And I did give a copy to uh the clerk for uh I've given a copy to all of you, but I also gave a copy to the clerk and I gave a copy to uh Mr. Washington, so I want to make sure that uh the city attorney had it as well. All right, thank you. I believe that's what you want to talk about. That was what you want to say? Yes. Okay, got it, no problem. Let's go into Zec Sim, ladies. [1:54:37, 1:54:48]: vote. We did uh we did vote. I thought we just voted. We did. All in favor indic all in favor indicate. All right, this is Namus and thank you. We'll be right back. [1:56:25, 1:56:26]: [6993.3, 6995.6]: [1:56:36, 1:56:40]: [8493.9, 8495.1]: We got the [2:22:06, 2:22:09]: I'm cold. I guess I should put a jacket. [2:22:17, 2:22:17]: Yeah. [2:22:30, 2:22:31]: Mm-hmm. [2:22:34, 2:22:47]: All right, Council, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. So move. Is there a second? I second. All right, uh Ms. Alexander and Ms. Scanner, all in favor, please indicate. Now I need a motion to reconvene our council meeting, please. [2:22:47, 2:23:04]: Seven moved. Is there a second? Second. All right. Miss uh uh Gantt to Mr. In favor please. Miss Barber? Good. Okay. Zeno's decision. And from our executive session, we have an announcement uh discussion that we want to bring forward uh for emotion. Ms. Barber, please. [2:23:05, 2:23:18]: Mayor Ford, um I'd like to make a motion to uphold the denial with a phase out not to exceed December thirty-first of twenty twenty six. Is there a second to that? Yeah, I'm sorry. [2:23:26, 2:23:27]: You want to restate that as well? [2:23:28, 2:23:29]: Appeal [2:23:29, 2:23:34]: Case number AP dash two zero two five dash zero one. [2:23:35, 2:23:36]: Second mayor. [2:23:36, 2:23:38]: Okay, second now. All in favor, please indicate. [2:23:39, 2:23:41]: All right, that is that is is approved. [2:23:42, 2:23:44]: Csam's decision on that mon note. [2:23:45, 2:23:45]: Okay. [2:23:47, 2:23:48]: You're welcome. Thank you, sir. [2:23:51, 2:23:53]: No, no sir, we do not, not this time. No. [2:23:54, 2:23:54]: This man. [2:23:55, 2:23:56]: Okay. [2:23:58, 2:24:07]: Council consideration for the approval contract number two zero two four-zero zero zero four. Financial audit services of Malden and Jenkins certified public accountants. [2:24:08, 2:24:09]: Ms. Malazzi, please. [2:24:13, 2:24:18]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Are in twenty twenty four [2:24:18, 2:24:30]: It was presented to council to approve the contract between the city and Morden and Jenkins from twenty twenty four through twenty twenty eight. [2:24:30, 2:24:37]: Unfortunately that contract you approved was not executed until twenty twenty five. [2:24:38, 2:24:58]: that we initiated for it to be executed. So we have executed contract with the our external auditors. And this will be the first fa the first of that contract was twenty twenty-four-twenty-five. Now this is required [2:24:58, 2:25:02]: requesting twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six it will be the second renewal. [2:25:03, 2:25:23]: But I will be recommending next year that because the our external auditors have been with us for years and we may need to go out. We know that they are going to come back to bid, but we want to take it out. Just for the sake of it has been several five years. [2:25:23, 2:25:39]: five years we are requested to or recommended to have a bid out every five years. So what I'm asking now is to approve the twenty twenty five-2026 renewal of the our external auditors. [2:25:39, 2:25:41]: No, thank you. There uh questions, council. [2:25:42, 2:25:44]: No questions on the motion to approve this. [2:25:45, 2:25:46]: So moved. So second. [2:25:47, 2:25:49]: I'm a s uh captain Mr. [2:25:49, 2:25:51]: Berry, all in favor, please indicate. [2:25:51, 2:26:07]: Okay, unanimous decision. Thank you. Thank you. And appreciate that council. And by the way, for the record, the new on the new business items number three, four, and five, early in the in our meeting, we uh we removed that based on the staff recommendation and they'll come back at our next uh council meeting here at the end of the month. [2:26:07, 2:26:13]: So I have up next announcements and upcoming meetings and events uh that'll be held. Let's see here. [2:26:14, 2:26:15]: Um [2:26:16, 2:26:18]: Citywide Development Authority meetings. Yes, ma'am? [2:26:22, 2:26:23]: After you went again. [2:26:27, 2:26:34]: Oh we're not like I need to know did you tell me? Yes. When we came out? Yes. [2:26:57, 2:26:59]: When we came back out, everything was looked back on. [2:27:00, 2:27:19]: Okay, all right. He said okay. So anyway, City Wide Development Authority meeting, second Tuesday of each month at six PM, City Hall Levi uh meeting room there, and that's September ninth, which is actually tomorrow. Community zoning information meeting Wednesday, September tenth, six PM in City Hall Council Chambers. [2:27:19, 2:27:28]: Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month, 9 a.m. at the Downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, September 12th. [2:27:29, 2:27:31]: Uh let's see here. [2:27:32, 2:27:44]: Downtown Development Authority Board Meeting is third two uh uh third Tuesday of each month, six PM, the Downtown Connection Center, one thirty ML King Senior Heritage Trails. It's on the sixteenth of September. [2:27:45, 2:27:58]: Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting third Tuesday of each month at six thirty P.M. City Hall Levi Meeting Room. That's on the sixteenth of September. The Planning Commission meeting Thursday, September eighteenth, six thirty PM, City Hall Council Chambers. [2:27:59, 2:28:09]: City Council budget retreat Wednesday, September twenty fourth through Friday, September twenty sixth, nine A. M. to five PM in Mural Man's Conference Center, one one one Davis Road. [2:28:10, 2:28:28]: All right, the City Council work session meetings last Tuesday of each month, September thirtieth, six PM in the City Hall Council Chambers. Upcoming city events and initiatives join the Main Street for the tiny tent concert series Fridays from six P.M. to eight P.M. the Stockbridge Connection Center one thirty ML King Senior Heritage Trail. [2:28:28, 2:28:32]: bring their own lawn chairs and of course they'll do this provided the weather is permitting. [2:28:32, 2:28:47]: Join the city of Stockbridge for the annual nine eleven remember ceremony on Thursday, September eleventh, at on the steps of City Hall at eight A. M. as we honor the first responders in observance to of the the nine eleven attack that occurred many years ago in two thousand one. [2:28:49, 2:29:09]: Join Castleman Berry in partnership with the monthly Bingo Bash on Wednesday, September 17th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon, Merrimanna's Conference Center. Lots of fun to be had by all. Join Mirapotem Gantt for the free line dancing classes on Wednesday, September 17th and September 24th from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. in Merrimanis Conference Center. All ages are welcome. [2:29:09, 2:29:29]: And bring your own fan. Join Councilman Alexander for the District 5 Town Hall on Thursday, September 18th, and at the Levi at the Bridges, 1400 J.R. Grant Boulevard. It says Madonna's address, but of course it's inside the City Limits. The Stockbridge topics: New Developments, Transportation, Traffic, and Public Safety. Join Mayor Anthony Ford for the monthly uh [2:29:29, 2:29:39]: Meet the mayor, which is actually gonna be on uh Monday, September twenty ninth, uh from uh ten AM to twelve noon in the city hall. And uh of course the meetings are by appointment. [2:29:40, 2:30:00]: Join us for our bridge fest on Saturday, September 27th, the Vice Star Amphitheater at the Bridge. Free food, free fun activities for kids, vendors, food trucks, an amazing concert featuring Jack Quees and uh Kiki Wyatt. So your Stockbridge residents have will have an opportunity to obtain a limited number of tickets with the Pitcher ID. [2:30:00, 2:30:20]: Check the website and social media for full details in that aspect as well. The Economic Development Department will host a free business health clinic on the second Thursday of every month from 9 8m to noon. The Stockbridge Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail. Check the health of your business with a free. [2:30:19, 2:30:39]: Free clinic. And due to outstanding citations, warrants, or failure to appear fee, you may qualify to have your warrant resolved and late fees waived during the Stockbridge Municipal Court Embassy program offered during the month of September. Please visit your website, our website, for complete details at www.stopbridge.com. [2:30:39, 2:30:41]: Yeah. [2:30:43, 2:30:58]: Of course, Councilman Thomas Wall be on continue to honor veterans and continue to salute to all veterans all year long. Please uh send your pictures and veterans and their name, branch, rank, and sir, years of service to uh our um to our actual assistants, Mrs. Rosen Rawls. [2:31:00, 2:31:10]: Sign up for the real-time alerts about severe weather, road closures, and emergencies on Regroup app. Visit the city's website or social media pages for more information on how and where to sign up. [2:31:11, 2:31:12]: Stay safe. [2:31:12, 2:31:16]: A twenty twenty five municipal election forum taking place on Tuesday, October seventh. [2:31:17, 2:31:19]: At seven PM a Mermanus Conference Center. [2:31:19, 2:31:32]: Please contact Roslin Ross to schedule an appointment with meet the mayor or more information on council initiatives at 678-833-3348 or by way of email rose at starbersg.org. [2:31:33, 2:31:35]: twenty twenty five concert season schedule. [2:31:35, 2:31:37]: This coming Saturday. [2:31:37, 2:31:41]: September thirteenth for lovers and friends featuring Tank [2:31:41, 2:31:46]: Special guests Leaf Jennings, Jenny Wan, and Tel Reese has been added to the concert list. [2:31:46, 2:31:48]: So get your tickets, ladies and gentlemen. [2:31:49, 2:32:09]: And our last concert of the year will be Saturday, October 18th, Detroit Gospel Legends, featuring Fred Hammond, Donnie McClurkin, Anthony Brown, Vanessa Bell Armstrong, Lisa Page Brooks, and Calvin Wynins, Carvin Wynans, I'm sorry, and Brian Cage. On that note, uh this is uh we're getting into the fall season. [2:32:09, 2:32:29]: season. So make sure you can catch a flu shot, COVID 19 boosters, whatever you can get in that aspect. Want you to be healthy and strong during the winter, fall, and winter months. And for your football fans, keep the faith for your Falcons and for your Georgia Bulldogs. All right. And on that note, we've already had our executive session. So counsel, I need a motion to [2:32:29, 2:32:36]: To end our meeting. So move. Is there a second? Uh from Mr. Alzheimer's and Ms. Ken Almere, please indicate. So now is the season. God bless you and good night. [2:32:49, 2:32:51]: It's not very good.
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    --- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2025-08-26 source: 2025-08-26_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:02:35, 0:02:55]: Yes, sir, I know I need that code enforcement. Uh you need uh code enforcement officers. So he really needs the purpose. I got some coverage. Gotcha cards. [0:02:54, 0:02:59]: Yeah, just connect it now. Okay. Yeah. So [0:03:00, 0:03:20]: Gotcha. I appreciate ancient Chinese sea, but I will use anyone. [0:03:40, 0:03:44]: I know we can figure out. [0:03:45, 0:03:49]: Or would you say that? [0:03:50, 0:04:05]: I don't know, C out there went um they went to the other page or not. [0:04:25, 0:04:45]: I got one for you. [0:04:45, 0:04:58]: Do you want the tank or you on the technique? I'm more about the I would say from here. [0:04:58, 0:05:00]: Exactly. Did you do that? [0:05:15, 0:05:20]: [322.0, 325.0]: [0:05:35, 0:05:43]: Ladies and gentlemen, we'll get started as soon as we have a quorum this evening. I need one more council members to make a quorum before we get started with our meeting this evening. Stand by. [0:06:40, 0:06:55]: Yeah, that's right. So that was actually. [0:07:03, 0:07:04]: Design. [0:07:11, 0:07:30]: All right ladies and gentlemen, I have now uh six oh six. We have a quorum, so I'd like to start our city council work session. This is Tuesday, August twenty sixth, call to order. And um let's stand for the invocation. Miss Renee Gordine, please. [0:07:31, 0:07:34]: You can come to the mic and uh make sure your mic is on. [0:07:46, 0:07:48]: Look the green light should be on. [0:07:50, 0:08:01]: There you go. You have it. Um, will you all please bow your heads and pray in your faith as I pray mine? Heavenly Father, we come to you today asking for your guidance. [0:08:01, 0:08:04]: wisdom and support as we begin this meeting. [0:08:04, 0:08:09]: Help us to engage in meaningful discussion, allow us to grow closer as a group. [0:08:09, 0:08:11]: and nurture the bonds of the community. [0:08:12, 0:08:14]: Fill us with your grace. [0:08:14, 0:08:34]: Lord God, as we make decisions that might affect the citizens of the city of Stockbridge and continue to remind us that all that we do here today, all that we accomplish is for the pursuit of the truth and the greater glory of you and for the service of humanity. We ask these things in your name. Amen. [0:08:34, 0:08:36]: Amen. For privileges. [0:08:36, 0:08:48]: A pleasure leaders to the flag of the America and to the Republic for this strength in the nation and God indivisible. [0:08:48, 0:09:08]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. Good evening. Evening. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Present. Council Member Thomas. At the record reflect, Councilmember Thomas is not in attendance. Councilmember Berry. Present. Councilmember Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. Present. Mayor Ford, we have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate it [0:09:08, 0:09:11]: Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:09:13, 0:09:18]: So moved. Second. Miss Barber had her hand up s she seconds that all in favor, please indicate. [0:09:18, 0:09:25]: All right, thank you very much. Appreciate that. Um Madam Clerk, we have any public comments? One public comment mayor, Mr. Carter. [0:09:25, 0:09:26]: Okay. [0:09:26, 0:09:30]: Ms. Carter, please come forward and uh state your name and address, please. [0:09:35, 0:09:37]: Good afternoon, Councilman Mayor. [0:09:37, 0:09:38]: Afternoon too. [0:09:38, 0:09:40]: Willie Carter, one twenty three Wilson Avenue. [0:09:42, 0:09:50]: In June, the city council approved a budget amendment for thirty-two point nine million. [0:09:50, 0:10:02]: The amendment came as a result of the city spending on approved funds in the excess of the approved budget of forty-three million for the year twenty twenty four. [0:10:04, 0:10:09]: In July, the exit board submitted a recommendation to the city. [0:10:10, 0:10:13]: To have independent third party. [0:10:13, 0:10:21]: To review the city's finances from the complaint that was filed by Councilman. [0:10:22, 0:10:22]: Farbra. [0:10:24, 0:10:26]: Please do not ignore [0:10:26, 0:10:28]: The recommendation [0:10:28, 0:10:31]: From the stock bridge effects board. [0:10:32, 0:10:40]: Also, I have come to the city council for years now to get improvements in the Ty Street area. [0:10:41, 0:10:54]: And after numerous phone calls and emails between I and Council Thomas and the Public Works D department, we finally got six million approved to do the work. [0:10:56, 0:11:02]: I am asking the new city manager to please provide an update for the project. Thank you. [0:11:03, 0:11:11]: Thank you for comments. Appreciate that. All right, uh, council review of your minutes. And you got a review of the regular city council meeting minutes on August 11th. [0:11:12, 0:11:32]: Miller's rate public hearing number one on August 11th as well. And public hearing, uh Miller's rate public hearing number two, also on 11th. One was at 10 o'clock. The first one at 10 o'clock. The other one should have been at uh six in the evening, I believe that was. And then the Miller's Rate Public Hearing Number Three on August 18th, also at 10 o'clock in the morning. And then of course we had a [0:11:32, 0:11:43]: special call floss meeting uh minutes um on august eighteenth. So please review those and at our next meeting we'll be able to approve them. If you have any updates or changes, please get that to the clerk. [0:11:43, 0:12:02]: Uh consent agenda and council consideration to approve the Henry County twenty twenty five early voting dates and uh locations as approved by the Henry County Elections Board on August eighteenth of twenty twenty five. Um so uh Ms. Hall, do you need to expound on that at all? [0:12:08, 0:12:09]: Okay. [0:12:10, 0:12:15]: All righty. So it's a consent agenda, so I would imagine that we just need a motion to [0:12:16, 0:12:16]: Approved that. [0:12:17, 0:12:18]: Some move. Is there a second? [0:12:19, 0:12:21]: Miss Berry second that all in favor, please indicate. [0:12:22, 0:12:23]: She now's decision, okay. [0:12:23, 0:12:43]: Old business. Um what we have here council consideration to approve the renewal of the landscape maintenance services contract with Yellowstone Landscape in the amount of three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Funding sources from the government building uh department and amphitheater budgeted funds. Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. I met with Mr. Edmondson and [0:12:43, 0:12:57]: reference to this item. This is the fifth and final renewal for Yellowstone. I've already submitted the scope of services for the next RFP to the city manager for him to review. And we're asking council to approve the final renewal on this contract. [0:12:58, 0:13:03]: Okay. Council, any questions? We'll stand by, please. Miss Barbagway, please. [0:13:05, 0:13:23]: Thank you, Mr. Aaron. Um so last year in twenty twenty-four, um the cost, the total cost for general maintenance and grass cutting was the three hundred and twenty-seven thousand two hundred and sixteen dollars. [0:13:25, 0:13:45]: Yes, ma'am, the cost is the same. If the additional funds were put in there because we were requested, if if we don't use it, we won't use it. We are requested in case they wanted to do an additional application of mulch and pine straw. That's what that additional money is for because we've had some requests for the land. [0:13:45, 0:13:54]: Landscaping downtown and refresh that and to refresh at City Hall. So that's what the additional money was put into the budget for. [0:13:55, 0:13:56]: I get that, but [0:13:57, 0:13:59]: So this was a originally [0:14:00, 0:14:09]: a contract that was awarded based on the competitive bidding process. Yes. So the contract amount is what we approved [0:14:10, 0:14:14]: Any amendments or additions to this contract? [0:14:15, 0:14:20]: can be either approved by the city manager if it's within his spending authorization. [0:14:22, 0:14:23]: Anything more than that. [0:14:24, 0:14:25]: would need to come to the council. [0:14:26, 0:14:27]: So I just need to understand [0:14:28, 0:14:28]: From [0:14:28, 0:14:31]: In twenty twenty four, you budgeted. [0:14:31, 0:14:33]: The three twenty seven two sixteen. [0:14:34, 0:14:34]: But yes. [0:14:34, 0:14:38]: What is the actual contract amount for this year? [0:14:39, 0:14:59]: It's the same as it was in the prior year. Sir, I can Mayor Ford, if there are no other questions, there is. I will stand by Mr. Alexander. Certainly, Mr. and I certainly appreciate the proactive measures that we're taking and to improve. I certainly do support making sure that we change up. [0:14:59, 0:15:19]: Out the pine straw on a more regular basis to make sure that it's refreshed. I think we just had to change it out here because it wasn't changed out for quite some time. I think speaking with Mr. Edmondson, he's kind of wanted this area to be our prime uh footprint, putting out, sending out the message that we were this is the start. [0:15:19, 0:15:35]: standard that we're going to adhere to. In order to do that, you have to appro fund it appropriately. And certainly if that is the case, uh I certainly would support that. I do want to say, however, uh in making sure that we're doing what we need to do. [0:15:35, 0:15:55]: Uh the area uh in the alleyway, which is behind uh downtown social, frozen smoke, and um uh CNL beauty and those businesses right there. Who handles that and is that an extension of what we're doing at the city crew? No, it's public works does that. Okay. [0:15:55, 0:16:15]: Well, what I always find out, and I and I say this as we started this contract and stuff, the contractors always do a great job. The city does what we can when we have people and they are present. So what is it that we can do to improve that area uh behind [0:16:14, 0:16:26]: in that central downtown core behind those businesses that we can get the same regular weekly maintenance that we have uh on this particular area right here. [0:16:27, 0:16:37]: So if the budget is approved at three hundred and fifty, you got the additional money you can amend the contract to add that to their scope of work. [0:16:38, 0:16:39]: For this final renewal. [0:16:40, 0:16:40]: Mm. [0:16:41, 0:17:01]: So because a as we move along and I think what the plan is to have that area and the alleyway project move forward, but uh those businesses certainly have brought it to our attention that, you know, as we move forward, we need to make sure that we're in line and lining up what we need to do and where we want to go in terms of cleaning [0:17:01, 0:17:21]: That area up and making sure that it's maintained weekly. Yellowstone is doing a really good job on maintaining this portion. I certainly wouldn't mind uh ha adding that area to their contract. Certainly the DDA has talked about maybe be able to uh try to support that as well. But if they were able to take that on. [0:17:20, 0:17:39]: Is that is that something that you consider? Did you say amending the contract to let them do it? Like I said, we've got the additional funds. It's about$20$21,000,$22,000 a year is almost over. So you could do that if you wanted to add it. [0:17:39, 0:17:59]: Well, certainly it's not totally up to me. But from what we've heard from the businesses downtown mayor and uh Ms. Gannon kinda we've heard that they want that area improved. So certainly if we prioritizing downtown, then this is an opportunity to put our money where our mouth is and and uh add that to add that and get this. [0:17:59, 0:18:08]: Because it's what you've already requested. If we give you what you've already requested, you'll have that additional latitude to be able to deal with that. [0:18:08, 0:18:22]: Yes. The the el the area behind uh frozen smoke in the downtown area over along Martin Luther King and behind that, that area is kind of an eyesore and it certainly needs to be re maintained at the same level as this is here. [0:18:22, 0:18:40]: Am I assuming that you're talking about the grassy area? Okay. Okay. And front and rear of those um MLK senior heritage along because now we got peop we have activity, people park there in that area behind those businesses and it should should re reflect where we're trying to go. [0:18:40, 0:18:41]: Okay. [0:18:43, 0:18:46]: So any other comments from the council? Oh Miss Barber, go ahead, please. [0:18:47, 0:18:47]: Uh [0:18:47, 0:19:07]: Mr. Aaron, I think we and Ms. Holiday, you may be able to verify this. But I believe last year when we talked about all contracts are to expire at the end of the calendar year. Yep. December 31st. Yes, ma'am. This would be December 31st of 2026. We we're procurement goal is to get everything. [0:19:07, 0:19:24]: on a year end. Yeah, I just wanted to make sure that we remembered that. Um and the other question that I have though, I looked at this contract renewal evaluation form and on it it says um the amount budgeted for the option year$300,000. [0:19:24, 0:19:29]: Okay. But then looking at this agenda item form. [0:19:30, 0:19:33]: It has the amount of three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. [0:19:33, 0:19:36]: But I see the background information that is included. [0:19:37, 0:19:57]: And it mentions the general maintenance and grass cutting in the amount of 327, 216 from the FY 2024 budget. So I just want to know what is the amount. I want to make a motion for this, but I need to know the amount of the contract. The amount is what we're asking. We budgeted$350,000. I won't, I won't, that is not the amount. [0:19:57, 0:20:00]: amount of the contract that it was awarded for. [0:20:00, 0:20:04]: I need to know the amount that it was awarded for. [0:20:06, 0:20:08]: And I don't have the contract here. [0:20:09, 0:20:11]: So I'm already a little skeptical. [0:20:11, 0:20:15]: Because I have consistently raised the same issues. [0:20:15, 0:20:23]: For five years, please provide me with all of the supporting documents when it comes to the contracts. [0:20:23, 0:20:26]: I want to be able to support this. [0:20:26, 0:20:30]: But I just can't when I don't have the information. [0:20:30, 0:20:32]: Mr. Edmondson or Mr. Malazi. [0:20:34, 0:20:35]: Did you all review [0:20:36, 0:20:37]: These contracts. [0:20:38, 0:20:42]: Before they came to us. [0:20:47, 0:20:49]: Did the city attorney review him at least? [0:20:56, 0:21:13]: So when this uh particular item came up, uh if y'all could recall, I pulled this item uh the f wrath of confirmation. Um because the goal was to get a better understanding of what was going on with this particular contract to include looking at the scope of work and ensuring that they were doing [0:21:13, 0:21:33]: Uh, the job of the scope of work. Uh, since that time, I have met with Mr. Aaron. We sat down, we looked over the contract. This particular contract had a it was a five-year option with annual agreements, because of course, we have to do that clause where we have to come back uh before years in to either renew or to uh terminate the contract. [0:21:33, 0:21:53]: Contract. Based on what I have observed and sitting down talking with the contracting company, expectations they have stepped up. They looked at the scope of work, make sure that everything was in alignment. I spoke with the procurement professionals downstairs. They talked to me about the process, which they start about five months out, looking at the data, making sure that the process is not a good idea [0:21:53, 0:22:13]: Sure, that the contract is in still fact is needed. Are we do it having any intentions to renew the contract, so on and so forth? So it's not like it's a new contract, it's the same contract, uh, but this is the last year option within the contract amount that was previously approved. So we just had that the last year of that five-year contract. [0:22:13, 0:22:13]: Right. [0:22:15, 0:22:16]: Yeah, sure. [0:22:16, 0:22:17]: So [0:22:18, 0:22:21]: I don't remember what the amount was last year. [0:22:21, 0:22:24]: This item is being presented to me today. [0:22:24, 0:22:28]: I need all of the supporting document so that I can review it. [0:22:28, 0:22:30]: So I can make an informed decision. [0:22:31, 0:22:31]: Today. [0:22:32, 0:22:40]: So I'm just asking going forward, all of the supporting documents that staff uses to justify their recommendations to award. [0:22:41, 0:22:53]: Please provide them to us so that I can support this ma going forward. That's with all contracts I have to be honest. I've got issues with several of these contracts that are on the agenda. [0:22:54, 0:22:56]: They're missing supporting documents. [0:22:56, 0:22:57]: They have, you know [0:22:58, 0:23:01]: Um in the contract to look at exhibit b. [0:23:01, 0:23:11]: But exhibit B is not listed. I mean it's not included in our packet. Right. [0:23:12, 0:23:16]: So it gives me pause. These are the same issues I've been raising. [0:23:17, 0:23:18]: For the past five years. [0:23:20, 0:23:24]: My councilmates may be okay with it. I'm just not. [0:23:24, 0:23:25]: Um [0:23:26, 0:23:38]: But I know that this particular one you did pull off the agenda, um, the first meeting you attended. So I will vote in support of this of the three hundred and twenty seven dollars and [0:23:41, 0:23:43]: $3,227 in um [0:23:44, 0:23:45]: What is this? [0:23:47, 0:23:51]: Three twenty seven, two sixteen, the same as it was last year, right? [0:23:53, 0:24:01]: Point of point of clarification of but this says three hundred and fifty thousand dollars on it. That is what the budgeted amount is. Okay, but I thought that uh [0:24:01, 0:24:07]: My understanding that we wanted to approve that and that would give us some additional room for additional potential things of [0:24:07, 0:24:08]: Of um [0:24:08, 0:24:25]: Any type of ground cover you want and maybe even apply for if if if we agree to this, what Mr. Alexander was talking about in reference to some additional funds or these additional funds maybe clearing out the uh back area right behind the uh downtown area. If I can respond to you, you cut me off if I can explain. Go ahead. Um [0:24:26, 0:24:30]: So this is a recommendation to approve a renewal. [0:24:30, 0:24:33]: of a contract. Okay. So the contract amount [0:24:34, 0:24:35]: That was approved. [0:24:35, 0:24:40]: That is what we're being asked to do. Okay, not to approve what he budgeted for. [0:24:41, 0:24:42]: The budgeted amount [0:24:43, 0:25:00]: is there just in case there are extra services that they want to provide down the line. So if he wants to provide e well this company wants to provide extra services as long as those services are within the city manager's spending authorization. [0:25:00, 0:25:01]: He can do that. [0:25:02, 0:25:17]: But if those extra services are be more than the fifty thousand dollars, then he has to bring it back to the council for us to approve it. I don't I know that in the past, Mr. Aaron has brought several contracts to us and asked us to approve the budgeted amount. [0:25:17, 0:25:18]: That is not [0:25:19, 0:25:21]: The proper way to do this. [0:25:21, 0:25:26]: We are to approve the renewal of the actual contract amount. [0:25:26, 0:25:28]: That's all. That's just my thing. [0:25:29, 0:25:31]: But I will vote accordingly. [0:25:31, 0:25:46]: As a part of this section three in the agenda, it discussed that we are voting voting for I understand the original contract in 2023. [0:25:47, 0:25:49]: was for [0:25:49, 0:25:53]: Um no, I'm sorry, in twenty twenty one was two hundred and fifty thousand. [0:25:53, 0:26:01]: And then on December twenty fur twenty-one, we did another resolution and increased it by fifty thousand. [0:26:01, 0:26:06]: bringing it to three hundred thousand that was in twenty twenty one in twenty twenty three [0:26:06, 0:26:18]: We did another resolution, R23-1570, Council approved the landscape and maintenance project with Yellowstone for general maintenance and grass cutting in the amount of 327,216. [0:26:19, 0:26:24]: I believe that's the one that Councilwoman Barber's re referencing. That was in twenty twenty three. [0:26:24, 0:26:44]: But if you look on, that was in 20, again, as you can see, it grows up is twenty three to twenty-seven. We're growing. We have other new projects. We have the amphitheater, we have new new buildings and maintenance. So then it goes up and it says that the contract expires on September 30th, 2025. [0:26:44, 0:26:46]: This is the fourth and final renewal. [0:26:46, 0:27:00]: But it also reads that it's up to the council's soul well it says this agreement is for one year with an option to renew for four one year periods with such an option as the council city sole discretion. [0:27:00, 0:27:04]: The contract expired September thirtieth, twenty twenty five. This is the fourth and final renewal. [0:27:04, 0:27:07]: But if you continue to read the contract. [0:27:07, 0:27:19]: And you go further and you look at the last pages here, there's at the if you go down to the last three pages in this section, the new the resolution R24. [0:27:20, 0:27:22]: The most recent resolution [0:27:23, 0:27:29]: Again, it's the last three pages of the this section. R twenty four dash one seven one three. [0:27:30, 0:27:31]: And if you go to [0:27:32, 0:27:39]: The third page of that resolu no the second page of that resolution, you'll see section one. [0:27:39, 0:27:45]: Where it says approval to renew RFP. Now this was done in 2024. [0:27:45, 0:27:47]: Approval to renew [0:27:47, 0:27:52]: R F P twenty twenty one dash zero zero four [0:27:53, 0:28:07]: The council hereby approves and renews of the landscaping contract with Yellowstone Landscaping LLC in the amount of$350,000. [0:28:07, 0:28:09]: It's in black and white. [0:28:10, 0:28:18]: From budgeted government building funds from September 30th, 2024 through September 30th, 2025. [0:28:18, 0:28:36]: With one renewal period at the sole discretion of the city. This contract shall be brought back to city council approximately one eighty days before the expiration of the contract. So I that was on June tenth, twenty twenty four. And that was in the amount that we approved. [0:28:37, 0:28:41]: Um for three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Okay. Mr. [0:28:41, 0:29:01]: See, this is how we get these meetings kind of bogged down. We've spoken twice. The rules are two times you get to speak twice on one item for up to five minutes. Now, as Ms. Gann has clearly demonstrated to us, we want to make sure that we move forward as it says. And I do want to go ahead and make a motion for the three hundred and fifty thousand dollars [0:29:01, 0:29:18]: For the extra work that we wanted to get done. And my motion is going to include the downtown area, Martin Luther King Senior Heritage, and the extra pine straw that has been indicated because we want the area to look fresh all the time. So that's my motion at$350,000. [0:29:20, 0:29:21]: I second. [0:29:22, 0:29:28]: And that's based off of the most current resolution that we approved back in twenty twenty four and that was budgeted for. [0:29:29, 0:29:31]: A motion be made the second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:29:33, 0:29:36]: Okay. All opposed? Abstain. [0:29:37, 0:29:45]: I will abstain and I need to add a comment to my motion. Three zero one go ahead please. Motion passed. Last year we had the same confusion. [0:29:46, 0:29:50]: Last year, the same confusion. Um, I want to [0:29:50, 0:29:52]: Ask the staff. [0:29:52, 0:29:53]: Provide [0:29:53, 0:29:57]: accurate information when they are adding these items to the agenda. [0:29:58, 0:30:00]: Of course, I read the resolution. [0:30:00, 0:30:02]: And I also remember the discussion. [0:30:02, 0:30:04]: Last year that we had [0:30:04, 0:30:05]: And the year before. [0:30:07, 0:30:09]: You can go back to the meeting minutes. [0:30:10, 0:30:12]: And it's particularly um [0:30:13, 0:30:19]: Talking about the cost of these particular services. I want this for the record. [0:30:20, 0:30:23]: The landscaping contracts has consistently [0:30:24, 0:30:25]: been an issue. [0:30:26, 0:30:28]: The amount of the contract award. [0:30:28, 0:30:30]: Not only that, this contract was originally [0:30:31, 0:30:32]: Awarded in twenty twenty one. [0:30:33, 0:30:35]: I think it's time for it to go back out to bid. [0:30:36, 0:30:39]: And keep in mind all contracts. [0:30:39, 0:30:42]: Expire at the end of the calendar year. [0:30:42, 0:30:44]: So even the resolution. [0:30:44, 0:30:45]: Is incorrect. [0:30:47, 0:30:48]: That's all. Thank you. [0:30:48, 0:31:07]: All right, uh as we move on. Okay, new business. Council consideration to fill vacancy and appoint a member of the youth council advisory committee to fill them uh remainder of the term through twelve thirty-one twenty twenty five. It says Miss Lester and Miss Gordine, please. [0:31:15, 0:31:35]: Um good evening mayor and council. Evening. Is the mic on? Is it green? Yes, on. Good evening, Mayor and Council. We come before you today for an approval to fill um one of the twelve positions on the the Stockford Youth Council Advisory Committee. Um [0:31:34, 0:31:44]: The person that we're seeking for approval is Dunita Minist. Her position, um, she's walking into our already um [0:31:44, 0:31:56]: a position that's already been open for a a few years, but um it expires 1231, 2025. So we are requesting your um acceptance for this application. [0:31:57, 0:31:59]: Mm. Go ahead, please. [0:32:00, 0:32:02]: Well, I've been there the representative. [0:32:03, 0:32:08]: Who's the representative? Mr. Berry. Any questions, Mr. Berry? Okay. Councilman Berry? [0:32:08, 0:32:25]: No, but I will go ahead and make the motion. I I move that we make motion that we accept the name to meet a menace for the vacant position for the term period that you have prescribed. Sir. Okay for Mr. Berry, Mr. Please indicate. You should now see thank you, ladies. All right. Thank you. [0:32:26, 0:32:26]: That was uh [0:32:27, 0:32:28]: Simple and to the point. [0:32:30, 0:32:50]: Council consideration review and approve the donated commercial space to the city of Stockbridge Police Department for the purpose of opening a satellite precinct. Uh Chief Trammer and Entourage of Individuals. We have uh Mr. Jeff Grant in the audience as well. Fantastic. Wait, Chief. Good evening, Mayor and uh Council. We're here before you this evening. [0:32:50, 0:33:10]: To request the council's approval to receive donated commercial office space at 1046 Chin Parkway Suite A at the bridges of Jodico for the purposes of establishing a satellite precinct in the south part of the city. This uh office space is generously being donated by uh Mr. Jeff Grant on behalf of Jodeco. [0:33:10, 0:33:18]: [1998.5, 2009.5]: uh approval to accept this donated commercial office space again for the purpose of establishing the satellite precinct. We have mister Grant who's here with us this evening if you would care to hear from him. [0:33:29, 0:33:33]: But um again we're asking for the council's approval of that so that we could [0:33:34, 0:33:48]: Um we're growing. Of course the department's growing and that space is going to enable us to be able to grow and provide uh an additional security presence on the south part of the city as the city expands. Thank you, Chief. Mr Grant, come on up, sir. Appreciate uh your comments and uh [0:33:48, 0:33:52]: For us here. Uh Chief don't go anywhere. Stand stand by. You tag team in this. [0:33:52, 0:34:03]: Absolutely. Um uh Mr. Mayor and Council, thank you so much. This this is something I think is good for all of us. You know, with with this donation, having the police pres presence there. [0:34:03, 0:34:10]: You know, uh uh in addition to having him there, you know, we're also gonna be putting in a security system throughout the entire Jodico project. [0:34:11, 0:34:31]: And with that, the recorder and the and will be within the police precinct there in their office and that could be used for you know future uh use uh by the detective division if if there's any crimes or or any accidents, anything that happens. This the the assist we plan to put out there is gonna be it's quite extensive. Uh we feel like [0:34:31, 0:34:51]: This is a determinant for any potential crimes in the future. And as the traffic increases and the uh parkway gets opened, uh we're gonna see c considerate uh traffic flow out there, and I'm sure we're gonna uh we're gonna need this. So um we're excited equally as to you guys, as to the council and and [0:34:50, 0:35:10]: to the citizens here, I think it's um it's almost a must, I think, for us to have a the the presence out there. And I think um with what we're willing to put with it, I think, you know, make your mayor, I think it's going to be beneficial for everybody. And I think the safety we'll have out there at that point in time and the security we bring to the the residents, um, I think [0:35:10, 0:35:30]: And so I think if if we can start doing a determinment from day one, you know, we'll we will uh eliminate any potential problems we have out there or at least minimize them to a point um that uh just creates a a very safe effect because as it sits right now, Jodico Project has done extremely [0:35:30, 0:35:50]: exceptionally well sales um uh every store out there has has done exceptionally well um as I shared with you a bit earlier, uh Sprouts, uh their uh sales are up forty percent of what they had projected. Um you know Costco's is is is uh their sales are are between 1.1 and$1.2 million a day. [0:35:50, 0:35:51]: right now. [0:35:51, 0:35:53]: And so uh with that. [0:35:54, 0:36:11]: Um uh your sprouts is is one of the third best stores in the country right now. So the whole South side has proven what could happen and what we don't want is any kind of deterrence or any any anything that could jeopardize that. Um and I think having the police presence there with a security system we're gonna put in place [0:36:11, 0:36:21]: that that they'll be in their custody, I think will be second to none. And so this benefits all of us and uh and we certainly uh um would appreciate you guys accepting our donation to you. [0:36:22, 0:36:42]: Thank you, sir. Ms. Alexander, I know you just biting the bit to say something. You know, this is where planning and part pri we always talk about public-private partnerships. This is a perfect example of public-private partnerships that work and it comes with planning as we when we entered the agreement, we sat down with [0:36:42, 0:37:02]: Mr. Grant and mapped out what the future would look like. And I think we've even it exceeded uh our wildest dreams in terms of the performance of the stores. You know, Mary, you were there on on the opening day when Sprouts opened up. Absolutely. And it was absolutely amazing to see that. We just cannot thank you enough. [0:37:02, 0:37:22]: For the investment and belief in where we're trying to go. Because it always takes somebody that believes in where you're trying to go as a private partner to make things happen in this area. And as the District 5 council member is in my district, so trust me, we stand on it. And not only are we [0:37:22, 0:37:42]: We, you know, as you said, charting the course for uh Stockbridge in Henry County, but it's the whole South Metro. People are talking about us in ways that they have never talked about us before and understanding the some of the things that we've been able to accomplish uh in terms of the types and the quality of restaurants that we've uh [0:37:42, 0:38:02]: Invested in there. So, you know, this came together as we put together the development plan and proactively thinking about as we move forward. And from day one, Mr. Grant was in was at the table and agreeable and wanted to make it happen just as bad as we did. So that was before we even had. [0:38:02, 0:38:22]: police department and to understand that we wanted a precinct down there in that area. So you know I like to say it's the South Stockbridge police precinct. And uh because you know it it's a growth, it's a it signals growth and manifestation of where we're trying to go. So uh it's going to be amazing. And as you [0:38:22, 0:38:42]: Said the money you've invested in the security system with extremely high definition cameras has already paid off in private conversations in terms of liability and that kind of thing. Absolutely. And people should feel absolutely safe because of those investments and having those officers there, the finest officers in the country, we know, right, Matt? [0:38:41, 0:38:49]: Mayor? Absolutely. That that'll be there. We're gonna be safe uh at the bridges at Jodico in the Jodico area. Thank you so much. [0:38:49, 0:39:09]: Counselor. I'm sorry, sir. No, sir. I'm just gonna say counsel. You have a thing you want to say? Well, I I just want to thank you for donating this for the safety of the people of Stockbridge. It's amazing. The development is amazing and thank you for believing. It's the I know you're a longtime resident. Oh, absolutely. I know the history about you were raised right here, literally. [0:39:09, 0:39:29]: right here at City Hall in this in on this land. And it's just a pleasure and honor. And I want to just say thank you. Thank you for believing in us and investing. You know, I know that and always say that the when it comes to economic development, a lot of the businesses have looked at [0:39:29, 0:39:49]: how many rooftops and what's the average rate of income. But Stockbridge has proven to be defiant of some of those odds when it's not stacked on top of each other developments, right? And we are able to get some of those developments and they see that they're thriving, that they don't necessarily have to have all [0:39:49, 0:39:54]: those thousands and thousands of rooftops within one square mile. But we are so [0:39:54, 0:40:14]: Please, because there's a need. And I I just thank you for believing in that and for donating this for the safety of our people. Absolutely. And and and I will tell you this much, guys, the best is yet to come. There's still some favorite. And that's why I want to chime in real quick. Give us a couple of nuggets while you're up there. Give us a couple of nuggets. [0:40:14, 0:40:34]: First watch will be opening uh of course Bank OZK just opened uh about I guess about a week and a half ago. They're planning on having a grand opening here the coming weeks. First watch uh will be open, uh they're expecting to open in about thirty days, somewhere between now and and middle of September and the first of October. We visited today and the interior they're they're they're doing um leading up. [0:40:34, 0:40:54]: Leaps and bounds, that should be opened here very shortly. Jim and Nicks, we have struck a deal with them to take the middle lot there. And then we've got the Bubas 33. If you've never eaten one, Bubba's 33 is committed to the corner lot. Absolutely. And I tell you, if you hadn't eaten it, it's really a good restaurant. [0:40:54, 0:41:14]: We're also um recording right now. We've and we've been very patient on the seafood uh restaurant we want to get in that will probably be located there at light, internal red light, where our uh traffic I mean where our trailer sits now, that's they're gonna need it's uh that's a three acre site, and it's probably gonna need the entire site. So um [0:41:14, 0:41:34]: Uh and then the we we really look forward to it. I've got my one of my best investors I've known since the eighties, uh, who does build the um he formerly built what was known as the Orient Brand type hotel. And uh he it's a twelve story uh hotel. Basically has a uh the bottom four floors are your hotel. [0:41:34, 0:41:52]: hotel, the fifth through the tenth floors are fee simple condos. Uh the eleventh and twelfth floor are office space with a rooftop bar and rooftop restaurant. So the elevations we had flown from the fifth floor up you can see Stone Mountain. And keep in mind that this elevate this site is one of the highest peaks in Henry County now. [0:41:52, 0:41:57]: Sixth floor up you can see the skyline of Atlanta and from the seventh floor up you can actually see Truish Park. [0:41:58, 0:42:18]: So um uh we anticipate having a name brand steakhouse that will take the top floor. Um this is gonna be kind of exclusive. It will be of a nice it's projected to be between a ninety-five and a hundred million dollar project when they get when we finish with it. So um that'll be kind of a flagship when we we get through with it. And um [0:42:18, 0:42:38]: Uh you do have the cottages. Uh these are the the sit the senior cottages that we're getting ready to build out there right now. There will only be 78 of them. Um those we're excited about. And then the uh I told you about the condos inside the uh above the hotel. Um now those are gonna be rather nice. They're they um [0:42:37, 0:42:57]: The the each floor goes up uh on approximate valuation. Those uh half are already pre-sold. The um the starting price for the two bedrooms is around seven fifty for the three bedrooms is right at a million, and that goes up almost uh fifty thousand dollars per floor. So um uh and everybody thinks it's [0:42:57, 0:43:11]: high but let me just tell you that half of those are already taken, spoken for. So um we feel uh very good about that project as well. Also uh you know in in in l in lieu of that [0:43:11, 0:43:31]: The sister project that we have is going to be daggling across from the interstate there is also the 40-acre track that we have there as well. And so that was the one that the city council had the foresight to go ahead and get it approved. I know we're we're awaiting the uh DRI and Goethe approval, which I think will come with uh with not many issues there. [0:43:31, 0:43:32]: Yeah. [0:43:32, 0:43:33]: Um [0:43:33, 0:43:53]: That's one that we'll we're we're we're there's a the planning on that one should bring more of an entertainment type venue. And I think what we're and who we're talking to there right now should be uh what the city is really wanting to have. And so I think with the whole car door getting ready to open from Eagles Lane and Parkway down to our track, um I I think [0:43:53, 0:43:55]: think if the the city [0:43:55, 0:44:06]: Uh you've done a great job so far and I think um I I I think if you'll keep in toe with what we're doing, I think it'll only get better. And and hopefully we're going to um [0:44:06, 0:44:19]: uh what we're gonna bring will compliment what we've already done and I think what you guys are gonna see is something we're all gonna be proud of when we get through. Now this is gonna be my last big hoorah in Henry County now, I'm telling you,'cause um um [0:44:20, 0:44:40]: It's just one that we're very proud of. And so and I and and listen, this couldn't have been done without a partnership with you uh and you know, and what you've allowed us to do by having the meetings every other week. Um, and Mr. Alexander sits in with quite of these with us. You know, we're able to get permits done, it which i and I'll be quite honest with you, this is a a a big challenge. [0:44:40, 0:45:00]: challenge that a lot of our vendors have faced and it's refreshing for'em when they come into the city and realize they get permits done within a forty-five to sixty-day time period from the time it's submitted, which is unheard of. Most of them are six months to a year getting permits finished. And so when they hear that we can get these done, and thanks to Ryan, I I I mean it's been [0:45:00, 0:45:07]: It's been refreshing and by doing having that meeting set up at ten o'clock every thir every uh every other Thursday. [0:45:08, 0:45:28]: Uh it allows our vendors to actually come in and hear it firsthand. And and I tell you, it has helped sway a lot of them to come into Jodecop. And I think you know, it with with what you've done, if you'll keep that that um uh that air of communication light lined up, it is it it it makes our life a lot easier because when you have vendors [0:45:28, 0:45:33]: coming in and they're choosing between sites, when they hear they can get this and done a lot quicker. [0:45:33, 0:45:42]: There's no contest to it. And and I love the and let me tell you, I love the county. I I love the officially. I love all of them. I've worked with them from all my life. [0:45:43, 0:45:43]: But [0:45:44, 0:45:46]: The vendors when they hear this [0:45:46, 0:45:51]: They want to come to stop reads. And I think i if you you'll make a point. [0:45:51, 0:45:54]: to keep that aspect of what we're doing here. [0:45:54, 0:46:06]: it will city a stockbridge will grow like you've never seen it before. And you'll be able to have good growth and pick and choose who we want to come in. Because with the sales that's been represented now, what everybody's seeing in the commercial market, [0:46:06, 0:46:26]: People are starting to realize, hey man, the South Side is not what we first thought. We've always thought they've always looked down at the South Side. Now they're realizing the South Side is an area of growth, an area that everybody wants to come to now. So that that that has turned that ship, that boat around. And I'm telling you, and it's because y'all have listened, uh, you've worked [0:46:26, 0:46:42]: work with us and and let me tell you the only reason that project is that as successful as it's been is because of y'all. And so it has been a joint effort and I'm grateful to ya. And what we're doing right here is is just a mild token of our appreciation and uh and we're certainly grateful for all of it. [0:46:43, 0:46:45]: Thank you, sir. I really appreciate that. [0:46:45, 0:47:00]: Well we'll we'll we'll do it in just a second let's we gotta still gotta vote here, okay? Still gotta vote some here, okay? All right. In the closeman second so no a second. Okay, so most made a second. All favor please indicate. Outstanding. [0:47:01, 0:47:07]: Okay. We can uh we can take a brief moment to take a picture and we'll we'll I'm trying to get his attention. [0:47:08, 0:47:18]: I'm sorry? Never mind. We're taking a picture anyway. [0:47:20, 0:47:20]: Uh [0:47:21, 0:47:38]: Come on. I'll double the W uh tape here. It's good. Uh come on, someone here we go. Let's let's do this. [0:47:42, 0:48:01]: What do you get in the phrase getting another thing? Come on, Mr. Brighton. Oh sir, you've been a big part. I just took the lumps in the zoning. Jeff remembers that. That was a while ago. [0:48:13, 0:48:30]: I got some questions. [0:48:45, 0:48:50]: Okay, so [0:48:51, 0:48:58]: No, I I just gotta say one other thing. Okay for the record, right? Stockbridge, where community connects. All right. [0:48:59, 0:49:10]: Thank you, Mr. Grant. Thank you, guys. No problem. Appreciate it. And listen, I hope you don't mind if I excuse I got an hour and a half drive. No, no, no problem, sir. You you no problem. Thank you. God bless you. Take care of yourself. [0:49:10, 0:49:30]: Okay, and uh matter of fact, our police department congratulations gentlemen. Okay, congratulations. All right, council consideration to approve resolution to enter into a 10-year contract with Norfolk Southern Parking Lot Project, amount of fifteen thousand dollars annually, funding source economic development department. [0:49:30, 0:49:32]: Mrs. Sanders, please. [0:49:38, 0:49:58]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Evening, sir. Uh this item is just as you described, Mayor. It is I'm before you this evening to ask your approval of a 10-year lease with Norfolk Southern, uh, soon to be Union Pacific, if what I've been reading in the news is correct. But uh that notwithstanding, um I'm before you [0:49:58, 0:50:18]: For you to share some information about the fact that we need additional parking in downtown. And the proposed site is the corner of Love Street and MOK. Originally we were talking to Norfolk Southern about the vacant piece adjacent to it. They made a decision. [0:50:18, 0:50:30]: during the negotiations that they did not want us to have that vacant site which would have been a lot less money to put paved parking on, striped parking if you will. They're try their um [0:50:30, 0:50:42]: Um engineer, their head engineer came along about midway through the our talks and said, Y'all can't have this particular vacant lot because we want to continue to use it as a staging area. [0:50:43, 0:50:57]: Yeah, and if if you if you if you walk past it or park in front of it, you'll notice that they've got all kind of stuff. I mean it varies from month to month. They'll stage, you know, the rails and various items that they use along the tracks there. [0:50:58, 0:51:07]: And that was that was not something that they were willing to yield on. And so, as an alternative, they offered to us the opportunity to rent. [0:51:07, 0:51:27]: The space down at the corner, which is not the optimal space, but is the space nonetheless that they offered. And the reason that that one wasn't quite as desirable in the beginning is because, as you probably noticed, it has a structure on it. And it some demolition will be required. I'm not here tonight to talk about your approving of that. I'm here tonight to solely talk about the approving of that. [0:51:27, 0:51:42]: approval of what they require as a ground lease. Because it is the railroad's right right away and it's been theirs for God knows how long, may over a hundred years, uh they will not allow the city or any other agency to buy the land. So [0:51:43, 0:51:50]: The ground lease and contract that is before you is the only way that we can secure the land so that we can subsequently put [0:51:50, 0:51:55]: uh parking on it. And in their case, they want fenced in parking. [0:51:55, 0:52:09]: Uh we are recommending uh pavers and and and strike parking. Uh as you can see in the information that I pro w that I've provided, it'll it'll allow up to about twenty, we're estimating twenty-five to thirty. [0:52:09, 0:52:22]: spaces, which is not as many as if we would have used the vacant lot. And so one of the things that I was able to do with the mayor's permission when we were talking about this along the way was to ask for some slanted parking. [0:52:23, 0:52:43]: MLK already has slanted parking on it now. So in working with Falcon Design, our city's engineer, they were able to help us come up with an estimated 12 to 13 additional parking spaces, which would be along MLK, which would get us, you know, at a much more parking for downtown. [0:52:43, 0:53:03]: And of course, as you as you probably have read, the benefits of this is uh of course when we have concerts, any kind of overflow parking would help. The merchants have come to me, uh different ones, including the investor there on across the street and said, hey, uh we want to continue to invest, but we need more parking. Some of the examples. [0:53:02, 0:53:09]: Existing merchants have also said to me and my staff that when events are larger than [0:53:09, 0:53:29]: You know, they c there can be large events down there, but just the parking is not enough. And so I believe that while this may not solve all of our parking problems, it will certainly add forty to fifty more spaces in downtown, which I think are very much needed. So tonight I'm again I'm not talking about getting you to not here to talk about additional funding to tear down this. [0:53:29, 0:53:45]: structures that are on there. What Norfolk Southern has said to us is we the first step is we want you to secure and sign off on this ground lease. We want your council to approve it, which is why I'm here tonight. The good news is while MUNS I have not been able to the staff and I we've not been able to [0:53:45, 0:54:05]: Identify funds for the demolition and the subsequent paving. What Norfolk Southern has said is that if you go ahead and sign the lease, then at your leisure, on your time frame, City of Stockbridge, you can decide when you want to do demolition and subsequently put in the parking. So we have some we have some leeway in terms of time. But there's they're pushing. [0:54:05, 0:54:08]: [3248.4, 3253.1]: and sign off on the lease, approve it if you in fact want to lease the land. [0:54:13, 0:54:33]: Okay, now of course if we approve that this evening then the the in the future I guess uh we have to plan out for you mentioned about pavers and dial diagonal type of parking, we'll have to figure out what that would cost us as well,'cause that's additional costs on top of the least uh lease price. Yes. Okay. So be it. Yeah, go ahead Mr. Elzander. See the see [0:54:33, 0:54:53]: This is how things just really get off the rails. The goal here was to move the junk out of downtown. It wasn't parking. It was to move the junk out of downtown, that old depot. That was the goal. We worked out a$50,000 agreement with them to close no [0:54:53, 0:54:59]: Street and they in exchange for them moving the junk out of downtown. [0:54:59, 0:55:19]: I don't know who we've been talking to, but someone needs in our legal team needs to go back and look at the agreement that we worked out to close Nolan Street. They gave us$50,000 for that to close that exit, and a part of that exchange was supposed to them be them moving the junk out of downtown. The parking was a plus on the [0:55:19, 0:55:20]: On top of [0:55:21, 0:55:37]: Moving the junk out of downtown. We j that was not the ultimate goal. The goal was to get all of that mess out of there. And somehow, uh is that what you're telling me is that that's not they have reneged on what they had had told us they were gonna do? [0:55:38, 0:55:44]: I'm not aware the understanding or agreement that you're referring to it may predate my my tenure here. [0:55:44, 0:56:02]: But what they have told us is that if we want to secure land in downtown in this particular area, this is the only spot that's available and that the demolition is on the city. Right, right, right. I understand that. But I my goal is even if you don't want us to build anything on that lot, get that junk out of there. [0:56:02, 0:56:05]: W we Oh you talk you're talking about in the staging area? Yes. [0:56:06, 0:56:18]: That that was the agreement that they were go uh we closed Nolan Street and that's why we were supposed to move along that expeditiously'cause changes are made. But that agreement was according to staff was to [0:56:19, 0:56:20]: Close this and then to [0:56:21, 0:56:41]: have uh them move that junk out of downtown and dec decide a new area. But even if there's zero parking in downtown, that junk has got to be moved. That's never gonna be an appealing area with that old wooden I mean uh freight trailer there and all of that. That's never gonna be an appealing area. And they had a [0:56:41, 0:57:01]: From what I understand, they had actually agreed to that. We need to go back and talk with Quentin and we need to go back and pull the agreement uh where we closed Nolan Street and to look at whatever I don't know, maybe the clerk has some notes of some of the retreats and everything that we had uh uh endeavored to do, but the goal was [0:57:01, 0:57:16]: was not the parking came after we thought we had them agreeing to move. Then we were gonna put parking on that spot after you've moved all this junk out of there. To put the parking lot on the other side of the junk [0:57:16, 0:57:36]: i is not really desirable as far as I'm concerned. Now certainly having additional parking down there came to be a carrot after we thought we had them agreed to move, but we need some more dialogue to get that junk moved out of downtown. Well again I'm not I'm not familiar with that understanding. [0:57:36, 0:57:50]: It could be, and I'm not certainly not denying it, but there was there was intentional conversation with them about moving that area because Councilman Alexander, you're absolutely correct. It's ugly, it doesn't look good. [0:57:50, 0:57:54]: Uh the officials that I talked to representing the railroad were unyielding. [0:57:55, 0:58:15]: In their willingness to do that. And just to let you know, I've I've talked, I've been talking to their real estate division, their engineering division, uh, and there's some corporate folks that I think Miren, you and I both have have had some. Right, right. They were unyielding because they didn't want us to build in that area. But we I thought we had long crossed the bridge that they were [0:58:15, 0:58:35]: gonna move the stuff out of there. And I'm kind of thinking maybe the message got mixed and that that was the priority is that we wanted to build in there because they didn't want us to build anything in there. They wanted we wanted them to move the stuff out of there because they told us from what I understand that we want the RSVP plan contains a structure. [0:58:35, 0:58:55]: Message was very specific that we couldn't build a structure in there, but they were gonna let us do some parking, but again, prop change. But the idea and the priority was when this council was at previous retreats, is to get that junk out of there. The parking came successful to that. So I would like for you all to go back to the table. [0:58:55, 0:59:15]: to make that the priority. We don't want to build anything in there. We just want you to move this station out of there. Yeah. I'm not sure if they're gonna do it. We all certainly don't. But we can we thought the legal comes in at is to pull that agreement that we had. Cause you I don't know, maybe I uh you remember you kinda remember that? [0:59:15, 0:59:35]: Ms. Gann, but we were talking about no closing Nolan Street. I don't know. The clerk might have been at some of these calls uh as well. Merrill, you do you recall some of that? Well we'll have to research every make sure we got things lined up. We'll get the legal involved in this and make sure that uh what's happening here. Tried to help out uh I don't know unless you want got an opinion now. I don't know if you got an opinion now or not on that. [0:59:35, 0:59:45]: I do not have an op I do not have an opinion now, but I will certainly follow up with it and uh let you know what I find out. No problem, appreciate you. On on that note, any other comments? [0:59:45, 0:59:55]: There was a propo at one point, um uh k Miss Bragg's was here and then there was a effort to try to get that storage unit right facility moved. [0:59:56, 1:00:10]: It was in conjunction with the s quiet zone and everything else that we were trying to negotiate. So there may be some rough drafts of a contract and notes somewhere in regards to that. And the [1:00:12, 1:00:17]: At some point, we were finding another place for the storage unit to be moved to. [1:00:17, 1:00:18]: Um [1:00:19, 1:00:23]: And you know, I'm a a person of uh you know [1:00:24, 1:00:26]: Лес трети ав. І в кан'корке о. [1:00:27, 1:00:31]: You know, let's continue to make efforts to try to work it out. [1:00:31, 1:00:40]: And um show the concern by showing the pictures and showing what it looks like and and and being community partners and I I get it. And it [1:00:40, 1:00:48]: You know, we hear all the time the level of difficulty it is sometimes to work with real road. You read articles on it all the time. [1:00:49, 1:01:09]: We've been lucky to get I I wanna first thank you for your efforts in getting the parking spaces. That's to be commended. It took months. So right. I wanna thank you for that. I know that's not something easy just to even get meetings with the railroad. So um we talk about it in economic development classes. It's it's just it's not easy. [1:01:08, 1:01:09]: So I [1:01:10, 1:01:15]: Thank you for that. And I'm sure that I mean that's a plus within itself. [1:01:15, 1:01:15]: Um [1:01:16, 1:01:32]: But where where there's a will, there's a way. And if that means we're not afraid of fights in the past or or not necessarily I don't wanna call it fights, but advocating or lobbying. We're not afraid of getting together as Mayor and Council and and going and and and you know, sometimes it takes us [1:01:33, 1:01:35]: To do the job ourselves. So [1:01:35, 1:01:47]: Um, if we have to try to knock on the door and meet uh meet and say, Please help us, then so be it. Sometimes it sends a stronger message. But we we will continue to work on it. And um [1:01:48, 1:02:01]: Let'em know at least is you know, if if they finally say no, then we'll find a way to make it look pretty. I don't know. Yeah. But but there there's gotta be some type of resolution. And so I have high hopes and I'm I'm thinking positive on that. [1:02:01, 1:02:08]: In your comments when they said, go ahead, sir. Mr. Sanders, is is is this a time sensit are they is the railroad uh giving us a time [1:02:09, 1:02:17]: Constraint on this? At first they were they were slow to respond at the point that I got involved. Uh [1:02:17, 1:02:18]: Four or five months ago. [1:02:19, 1:02:39]: Of late they're pushing, and I don't know if this has something to directly do with the merger that's pending and that people in various capacities and departments that may change. That is a guess. I'm not sure, but I know they have they have been pushing and constantly calling at this point to say, hey, when when are y'all gonna do it? It's on the table. [1:02:39, 1:02:59]: table we need you to act and so um I would be remiss if I didn't mention that yeah because they want it to happen yeah at this point. It's it's it seems as if at the at the very least we need to um have a little bit more time to kind of look at all plausible options that we can we can go into. Especially [1:02:59, 1:03:19]: with the information that was brought up about previous um negotiations and discussions about what the real vision and the hope was for it. Not wanting to just jump at the first bit as presented, but also making sure that we do you know do our due diligence and make sure we're doing things the right way. So that's why I wanted to check and see if it was time to limit [1:03:19, 1:03:39]: They haven't haven't indicated a specific amount of time per se, but I'm I dare say that we're very close to to that. Okay. Yeah. [1:03:39, 1:03:41]: We'll certainly go back and [1:03:41, 1:04:01]: I just thought about it as you mentioned that made me think about the fact that maybe maybe they might be more antsy about getting this done now based on the fact when they merge when Union Pacific it may change. Which means even if they merge with Union Pacific it may change and it may be harder or it could be or it could be easier. You don't you don't know. You you're taking a particular gamble in a sense, maybe one way [1:04:01, 1:04:18]: the other probably taking a gamble here, but it could eventually be easier as well. So we just never know. So it's really up to up the council how you want to approach this this evening and what how you want to go forward. But we do need parking, uh without a doubt. As we want to grow, we need parking for our our our businesses down south. And Ms. Barber, go ahead please. [1:04:21, 1:04:32]: Thank you. You're welcome. Uh so I'm looking at this agenda item four. I see that um our legal counsel have they reviewed this? [1:04:32, 1:04:33]: Yes. [1:04:33, 1:04:37]: You did? Okay. So one of the questions I have and I just mentioned it. [1:04:37, 1:04:41]: Ви вона мешка да о контракці коин. [1:04:41, 1:04:42]: With the calendar year. [1:04:44, 1:04:47]: This shows that it will commence September first. [1:04:48, 1:04:58]: This is at their request. Uh they didn't want to do it necessarily that way, so this is this is some give and take, but I certainly understand your point. So even [1:04:58, 1:05:08]: So perhaps they would consider if we started this September first, but would end December thirty first of twenty twenty six. [1:05:09, 1:05:10]: Possibly. [1:05:10, 1:05:14]: That is what we should do, so it coincides with the calendar year. [1:05:15, 1:05:16]: And the budget. [1:05:18, 1:05:19]: We can certainly ask. [1:05:20, 1:05:29]: Otherwise, I mean when whenever one of them makes a motion, um, I just ask that you all consider um adding that as [1:05:29, 1:05:33]: language in your motion that this contract if we can get it [1:05:34, 1:05:37]: Extended to the end of twenty twenty six. Mr. Edmondson. [1:05:38, 1:05:43]: Can you come to the podium please? Because I think this may require for you or Mr. Malazi. [1:05:44, 1:05:55]: um to reach out to Norfolk Southern and see if you can negotiate with them. I know that this contract is only supposed to be for a year. Um so you can ask. Yes. [1:05:56, 1:06:06]: Yes, we can definitely do that. Um that's no problem. We look forward to I don't know when the merger is gonna happen. Well um because that can the first can be a game changer. Can be. Um here is number fifteen. Okay. [1:06:07, 1:06:27]: The coun I think it's more than a year. Yeah, so then I don't know if you did you have to do it. You good it's a good idea. We just want to make sure I want to make sure that it expires at the end of the year, whatever year it is. That they understand that. So the government is made like a we can't do that. [1:06:27, 1:06:43]: Whether you renew or don't renew, as long as you didn't fund it, it expires automatically at the end of the fiscal year. So whether it's three years, four years. But as long as you didn't fund it, everyone that we deal with they understand about that. [1:06:43, 1:06:53]: So whether we are renewing September and it will end in December or another September, but come the time of funding. There's no funding for that. [1:06:55, 1:06:56]: They understand that he [1:06:57, 1:06:59]: That's the end of the contract. [1:06:59, 1:07:01]: Well, I wanted to see if you all could [1:07:02, 1:07:04]: Consult with Norfolk Southern to ask them [1:07:05, 1:07:07]: to revise this lease agreement. [1:07:07, 1:07:08]: So that [1:07:09, 1:07:12]: It does extend through the end of twenty twenty six. [1:07:13, 1:07:32]: We will try but there are some that they will feel okay we need it two years, three years. We agree to that with the understanding that if there's no funding that contract uh ends. So they may op they may accept but they may object because the their setup is you have to have this one like this. [1:07:33, 1:07:37]: Well, these are the discussions that I was hoping that staff would have prior to. [1:07:38, 1:07:54]: Items such as this presented to the council. Um I just want us to keep in mind Yeah, we would try but we make sure we make sure they understand that because when when it comes to you all presenting legal binding documents to the council. [1:07:54, 1:07:56]: I want to approve this. [1:07:56, 1:07:59]: But I already see that there's going to be an issue. [1:08:00, 1:08:02]: That's all. Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. [1:08:03, 1:08:19]: Thank you. Um just a comment real quick and you guys may want um to um this is in reference to the storage unit um notes. Um in my notes it reads that in February of ninth February nineteenth, twenty twenty. [1:08:20, 1:08:25]: Um the river crossing quiet zone, Mr. Knighton, he was our city manager at the time. [1:08:26, 1:08:30]: Um, he referenced that his conversation was with mister Connor Poe. [1:08:30, 1:08:38]: Of Norfolk Southern, who is willing to work with the city offering$50,000 and a removal of the storage. [1:08:39, 1:08:54]: and a seventy five hundred dollar match from G Dot with the potential of closing Nolan Street railroad crossing. mister Knighton noted that the city applied for a quiet zone, which we just got win. [1:08:55, 1:09:10]: When did we get that? No, ten now about ten months ago. About so not even a whole year yet. I don't think it's been a whole year. So think about it. This was in twenty twenty, at the beginning of twenty twenty. [1:09:10, 1:09:16]: And so the contract and the negotiations was the removal of the storage yard. [1:09:16, 1:09:17]: Got it? [1:09:18, 1:09:23]: It was also negotiated for um the city by offering fifty thousand dollars. [1:09:23, 1:09:27]: And remove that we would pay fifty thousand dollars. No. [1:09:28, 1:09:48]: No, who is willing to work with the city by offering okay, by offering fifty thousand dollars they're paying us so that they can close out Nolan and remove the storyard and a seventy five hundred dollar match from G Dot with the potential of closing the Nolan Street Railroad crossing. Mr. Knighton noted [1:09:48, 1:10:08]: The city has applied for a quiet zone and paid the$5,400 application fee being processed by the city's project manager, Kekin Wood. Mr. Knight noted the process would need to be advertised and a resolution passed by council and states that this would make for a safer environment. [1:10:08, 1:10:28]: Mr. Knighton noted there would need to be a 30-day notice of intent of the advertisement and would be a six-month process yes, which we did, and a six-month process. Mr. Knighton also stated Norfolk Southern has the power and authority to close the river crossing without the city's consent as a criteria to close it is already there. [1:10:27, 1:10:40]: Mr. Nighton proposed a town hall meeting to make the community aware. So that was part of our negotiations, the removal of the storage yard. Okay. And that was February, it was in 2020. [1:10:40, 1:10:58]: And so if we find some attorney notes at that time frame, we m maybe and I know Kira Miss Braggs was working with it, I know Main Street worked with it, and I know Mr. Knight was working with it. So somewhere there are notes because that's the minutes. Oh, I was gonna ask you counsel again uh for that date. [1:10:58, 1:11:06]: February nineteenth, twenty twenty. Also thank you for those dates. That'll help me narrow my scope. Thank you. Absolutely. [1:11:08, 1:11:28]: Go ahead, go ahead. Let me say that. I'm not saying that we don't need parking. What I'm saying is this is if you read those notes, they don't say anything about parking. It says removing that storage yard. Once we got them to agree to move the storage yard, that's when we started so oh we can use we can put parking there since this [1:11:28, 1:11:33]: they're gonna move that out of downtown. And that's how that kind of evolved. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. [1:11:33, 1:11:33]: All right. [1:11:34, 1:11:45]: Any other questions? All right. So actually what's still proposed before us where there's a uh proposal here. So the question is is whether or not we're gonna approve or disapprove or table this. So what what is the desire of the council here? [1:11:46, 1:11:50]: If if if I may. Okay. We're gonna pause that. We're uh [1:11:50, 1:11:53]: Until we have another conversation because I think that's very important. [1:11:54, 1:11:59]: Okay. Uh in fact that I believe that's probably more important than this cone a lot is removing [1:11:59, 1:12:19]: That stuff. Okay. Uh because at that point then we can go back to the drawing board to do the diangular park parking, which is more idea. So we'll go if if we may, we'll pull that item, uh table that item for now and then till we have further conversations with the recommendation, council is that's what the desire? So move to to to table. I second. [1:12:19, 1:12:27]: Okay, from Miss Alexander the table, second to Miss Barber, all favor please indicate. Okay, now she's a wheel table. Written notes. Okay. [1:12:30, 1:12:32]: Do we need to say table it until we end? [1:12:32, 1:12:40]: Well well I think what what happened because of the I w I don't think we need to do that because the the city manager along with the economic director take charge of it too. They'll get back to us. [1:12:41, 1:12:42]: We know s they know it's a concern. [1:12:43, 1:13:03]: They'll get back to us. All right. Uh council consideration of resolution to approve the one sec uh one year renewal option for the civil engineering services of Whitley Engineering in the amount of uh five thousand monthly or sixty thousand annually. The contract was approved by on resolution R24-1. [1:13:02, 1:13:14]: And the funding source for community development department accountant number one zero zero dash seven two one dash five two one three two zero three. Ms. Addison, please. [1:13:14, 1:13:30]: Okay, good evening, Mayor Council. Uh uh we we're coming before you to for the second renewal of Willie Engineering contract renewal uh in the amount of five thousand per year. Uh this is a contract that is far below market value. Um [1:13:30, 1:13:40]: Um if if we're if if it was at market value, we estimated it'd be around twenty thousand dollars a month. So um it's the same as last year and um the contract amount is unchanged. [1:13:42, 1:13:44]: Okay so the yearly amount is sixty thousand dollars. [1:13:45, 1:14:05]: Mayor. Yes, sir. Go ahead please. Yeah. And attending the Jodico meetings, Mr. Whitley is there. Yes. And he was very active in working on the intersection of Mount Olive and the Western Parallel Connector to get that corrected and to make sure that we had the sidewalks that we wanted. [1:14:04, 1:14:24]: and the engineering was done appropriately for that intersection. I can tell that he was on the job and doing what was necessary to uh make sure that the city's interests were protected. So if there's that we don't have to have a hearing or anything to this is Uh no no, sir. Okay, I'll be willing to make a motion to approve [1:14:25, 1:14:30]: I second. Okay. And motion made second by Miss Barber. All in favor, please. [1:14:30, 1:14:35]: Announced decision. Okay, fantastic. All right, thank you. Okay, good stuff there. [1:14:35, 1:14:55]: Uh council consideration of a resolution appro uh yeah right approval one year renewable option for permitting licensing and inspection software with SAGES Incorporated an amount of uh fifty eight thousand three hundred eighteen dollars annually. The contract was approved through resolution R two four-176. [1:14:55, 1:15:11]: The funding source is community development department account numbers 100-721-521310. Mr. Anderson, please. Yes, sir. Sage has has really been a game changer for us. Um it allows us to [1:15:11, 1:15:14]: to become totally uh paperless, um [1:15:14, 1:15:30]: Customers can do everything from um the comfort of their home and uh this contract amount is also unchanged from last year in the amount of fifty-eight thousand around fifty eight um fifty-eight thousand three hundred and eighteen dollars. [1:15:31, 1:15:33]: Questions for Mr Anderson? [1:15:34, 1:15:41]: Mr. Anderson. Yes, I do. Go ahead, please. Um, the cost proposal. I was looking for it. Is it in here? [1:15:42, 1:15:43]: Um [1:15:45, 1:15:48]: It should be there is it the cost of additional scope of work? [1:15:49, 1:16:01]: Uh no, it's just the renewal. It's the first renewal. We signed the contract uh in the spring. So this is this will be our first renewal purchase that we had to come uh to seek the renewal a hundred and twenty days before the end of the year. [1:16:02, 1:16:05]: I know but what I wanna see [1:16:05, 1:16:05]: Is [1:16:07, 1:16:08]: Do they have a price schedule? [1:16:09, 1:16:14]: Yes, that's that's in the original documents. Um it's not in our agenda package. [1:16:14, 1:16:15]: Um [1:16:16, 1:16:19]: I'm not sure. I don't know, it's not in might not be in there. Thank you. [1:16:21, 1:16:26]: Any questions for Mr. Ryan? Additional questions. If not, I need a motion to approve. [1:16:27, 1:16:29]: So moved. Is there a second? [1:16:30, 1:16:35]: From Ms. BaGantt to Mr. uh to Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. [1:16:36, 1:16:43]: Oppose No abstain. Adequate supporting documents are not attached. [1:16:43, 1:17:00]: That's for the record. Thank you. Three zero one motion passed. Okay. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. If I may, the actual contract exhibit A is attached and it states here that the contract is not to exceed five years in the amount of fifty-eight thousand three eighteen. It actually lists it in the contract agreement. [1:17:00, 1:17:17]: Um specifically by dollar amount. Okay, so if you knew that, why didn't you say that when I asked a question to Mr Anderson instead of trying to take pot shots? I'm not so I'm I'm asking. Mayor good. I'm uh if I may. [1:17:17, 1:17:19]: Um I'm not [1:17:20, 1:17:32]: I wasn't trying to take any hot shots. I wasn't really paying attention to that at first until you said something. And then I had to go ask about it. Well then I had to go and make sure [1:17:32, 1:17:34]: And find the information. [1:17:35, 1:17:42]: I had to I had to find it's in the cl it's in the actual contract here. It under the resolution and behind the contract agreement. [1:17:43, 1:18:03]: It's the same documents that we all get. What page are you looking at? It's there. You can make it. Which page are you looking at? Okay. I'm done with you can go find it. What page are you looking at? Okay. As I said. It's the support document. Let's move on. Time to move on with this. Time to move on with this. Thank you. Hold on. Council could s move the motion passed. [1:18:03, 1:18:15]: Three zero one motion passed. Thank you. All right, thank you. Council consideration approved the FY twenty twenty-six LMAG local maintenance and improvement grant. Mr. Aaron, please. [1:18:20, 1:18:40]: Yes, mr. Mr. Mayor and Council. GDOT has opened the uh window for us to start submitting our 2026 LMIG for consideration. So we're asking tonight for council to approve our FY 2026 LMIG list. It'll resurface approximately 5.33 miles. [1:18:40, 1:18:46]: We try to do an average of at least one mile in each district. So the streets are [1:18:47, 1:18:52]: In your agenda packet, what streets will be resurfaced in FY twenty twenty six under this L Mic list? [1:18:53, 1:19:13]: And my my assumption, Mr. Uh Aaron, is that to help d develop this list you had an outside consultant that did some review all these streets to make sure what was most the streets were the most needed of repairing right now versus other streets. I'm assuming that's what happened. Yes, sir. We had a rating done of all the streets. Okay. And saw [1:19:13, 1:19:26]: So we also incorporated the ratings that Henry County had for the streets that were annexed into the city. So that's how we go about choosing the roads for resurfacing. Good deal. Uh I'm sorry, uh Miss uh Gantt was first, please. Go ahead. [1:19:26, 1:19:31]: Um well I appreciate the list that you did. Before I do that [1:19:31, 1:19:51]: Um I I just wanna apologize. I don't wanna go back. But Councilwoman Barber's on page seven for the contract for the previous document, the question you were asking. Out of respect for you, I don't want you to think I'm just making up something. It's on page that's taken. No, but I appreciate it. Let's just move on. All right, I'm gonna move on. Thank you. Let's move on. We're on a new item here. [1:19:51, 1:20:11]: sorry besides that and well i'm not sorry but i just wanted to clarify and show my support with that but um besides that um mr aaron thank you so much it really shows um the way that we maintain our roads um and the explanation i think that the constituents itself [1:20:11, 1:20:20]: themselves understand. Um and being that you you've provided those lists to us and we get these yearly. [1:20:21, 1:20:25]: How do you determine what roads? [1:20:25, 1:20:27]: А редко битан. [1:20:28, 1:20:39]: We do them based on their rating and the grades. The lower the grade, the worse the road is. So you have roles in district two that have a rating one of thirty-four. [1:20:39, 1:20:41]: And you have one also like forty one. [1:20:42, 1:20:46]: And so those with the lowers lowest grades, they're like in school. [1:20:46, 1:21:04]: You know, the lowest grade is the worst. And so we try to choose those. And so we're also preparing to have another road assessment done of all the streets in the city so that we can include all the streets we resurfaced for the last, well, eight years that I've been here. So we have an up to date. [1:21:05, 1:21:05]: Schedule. [1:21:05, 1:21:15]: Mayor. Um yeah, well make sure she does she done? Okay, go ahead, Mr. This is all these lists. I don't is this list on the screen for the people to see? [1:21:17, 1:21:20]: I don't think so. It is not. Why not? [1:21:21, 1:21:41]: This we're talking about streets being paved in the city. We're talking about it amongst ourselves. We're sitting here looking at this list. This is the whole point of what this transmission is supposed to be about. These documents that we're looking at are supposed to be on the screen. So somebody can who's watching the meeting can see that the road in their subdivision is actually being paved. [1:21:41, 1:21:46]: So how can we get this on the on the screen for the public to see it? [1:21:47, 1:22:05]: Piker, did you submit a presentation? What typically happens, uh, Councilman Alexander, is anything that's being presented in a council meeting is submitted to IT so that they can upload it as you see each document as it's pre or i each item as it is presented. Mr Aaron, did you pres [1:22:05, 1:22:15]: No s this didn't get up. So I mean d isn't this isn't this gadget just for that where you can actually project it? Isn't don't we have a a docum a get a document? [1:22:17, 1:22:23]: Right here where we can actually put the document on the screen for them to see it. That's why we added that, right? [1:22:24, 1:22:30]: I see them do it at the county all the time. They just put the information in the [1:22:31, 1:22:32]: Nothing. [1:22:33, 1:22:35]: Oh yeah. Where's it gonna show? [1:22:38, 1:22:58]: Yeah, and I have I certainly want everybody to be able to see so folks can see the roads that are being paved in district one, two, three, four, five. Because they're always asking what it is, and we're sitting here having a meeting and we're trying to inform everybody. And this this is super important. So getting it on the screen is [1:22:58, 1:23:03]: Is is is a must for at least a few minutes for everybody to look at. [1:23:04, 1:23:24]: Uh Councilmember Alexander, if I may. Um what we're gonna do is we are reformatting our uh website. Each department is gonna have their own page on the website, and we're gonna have these type of things posted so that people that may have questions, maintenance schedules, uh road paving, different projects that are going on. [1:23:24, 1:23:44]: Each department is gonna have their own layout. So this information is gonna be widely publicized. I think it's important that if they go to the departments that they understand what's going on in each of those areas because those answer a lot of the questions they may have. So we're trying to be more proactive and intentional in our approach as we have these different messages, which we think is are very [1:23:44, 1:24:04]: important so just wanted to put that out there. Yes, if I could, Mayor. Yes, sir. Certainly, Mr. Edmondson, I I agree with that post this meeting, we want to make sure every document is available. But during the meeting as we're doing right now, if we have the equipment and ability to do so, uh to be able to do so since [1:24:04, 1:24:20]: if you would take the time to just read the list or and go down and and read the streets and what is being paid so people can see this the what the work that you're doing because just saying it really doesn't have the impact of somebody seeing, oh, they're getting to my street finally. [1:24:20, 1:24:35]: So in District One, you got Ernestine Way from Ventura Trail to the Cul-de-Sac. It's in the Brentwood-Huntington subdivision. Rayola Drive from the Cul-de-Sac to Cul-de-Sac, Brentwood at Huntington, Dover Court to Gresham Drive. [1:24:35, 1:24:38]: And Brentwood, Gresham, Duke Way. [1:24:38, 1:24:42]: To Whitaker from Whitaker Drive to Peyton Court, Fentwood, Whitaker. [1:24:43, 1:24:44]: Longford Court was [1:24:45, 1:24:49]: From Borington Lane to Cul de Sac in the Wingate Enclave. [1:24:49, 1:24:51]: Buckingham Place [1:24:51, 1:24:55]: From cul de sac to cul-de-sac in the wingate enclave. [1:24:55, 1:25:12]: And District 2, Shepherd Drive from North Henry Boulevard to the Dead End, Stockbridge Northwest, Escalade Drive from North Henry Boulevard to Lillian Circle, Stockbridge Northwest, Rosenwall Circle from Ty Street to the Dead End Memorial. [1:25:12, 1:25:16]: Hamilton Glenn from Appleton Boulevard to Cul de Sac and Appleton. [1:25:17, 1:25:23]: Central line from Iron Horse Way to Seaboard Drive and Northbrook s North Bridge Station. [1:25:23, 1:25:30]: In District Three, you got ArbaCove way from Arbor Cove Drive to Cul de Sac and Arbacove at Highlands. [1:25:30, 1:25:35]: Arba Cove Drive from Walt Stevens Road to Flippin' Road, Arba Cove Highlands. [1:25:36, 1:25:39]: Arbicov court, so I'm Arbicove. [1:25:39, 1:25:42]: Dry at the cul-de-sac Arbicold Highlands. [1:25:43, 1:25:52]: Cherry Hill Lane, Deerwood Drive, Willow Hill Lane, Winsong Plantation, Willow Trace from Winsong Drive to Cold de Sac and Winsong. [1:25:52, 1:26:00]: Mulberry Street from Willowhill Lane to Redbud Lane and Winsong, Willow Oak Court from Winsone Drive to Cul-de-Sac and Winsong. [1:26:01, 1:26:05]: District four, we have Kinsey Drive from East Atlanta Road to Mays Road. [1:26:06, 1:26:12]: Valerie Court from Kinsey Drive to Cul-de-sac, Nottingham Court from Davis Road to Cul-de-sac. [1:26:12, 1:26:15]: Daniel Drive from North Henry Boulevard to Daniel Drive. [1:26:16, 1:26:17]: Mohawk Circle. [1:26:17, 1:26:21]: From Brunswick Circle to the cul-de-sac and pine grove. [1:26:21, 1:26:24]: And district five, you got Aspenbrook Drive. [1:26:25, 1:26:28]: From summit view drive to summit view drive in the summit. [1:26:28, 1:26:33]: Got Mesa Road from Summit View Drive to Aspenbrook Drive in the summit. [1:26:34, 1:26:54]: St. Elizabeth Terrace fr and from St. Marguerite Circle to Cul-de-Sac and St. Marguerite Village. St. Michelle Court from St. Marguerite Circle to the Cul-de-Sac and St. Marguerite's village for a total of five point three three miles. Right. I certainly do appreciate that because again [1:26:54, 1:27:14]: The impact of what we're doing. As you said, we have endeavored to pave uh roads in this uh county, in this city uh on a yearly basis. And this year, uh upcoming year, we're gonna be paving 5.33 miles in addition to paving Eagles Landing Parkway. [1:27:14, 1:27:34]: Hudson Bridge Road, Flippin' Road, East Lake. Miss Cant, we're we're paving roads in your district too, right? Well we've just done um Walt Stevens and we've done Spear and we've done Lake Spivey and well we did Walt Stevens and Lake Spivey paving and lights on Walt Stevens and Spear and Lake Spivey. [1:27:34, 1:27:40]: Which is amazing. So I definitely am appreciative and I'm appreciative of Mayor and Council's support on that. [1:27:41, 1:28:01]: Mr. De Aaron, uh in reference to LME, this is five point three three miles if I got it right. Is this about the average that we've done in the last previous year since you've been here? No, so in the last couple of years, you know, G DOT has issued some supplemental funds. So we've actually done around eight miles in the last two years. In 2024 and 2025, we've done around the eighth. [1:28:00, 1:28:20]: Around eight miles. Okay, now this is this is 2026 that we're talking about. Is there a possibility that would potentially G Doc would uh give us additional assistance as well for addition funding? I'm not sure, but in the last couple of years they have had additional funds. So if they provide additional funds, we will apply for those funds. So you would have to wait for them to notify you or do you just make a [1:28:20, 1:28:40]: A call to them, how do you go about They typically send out an email saying additional funds are available and they give you a date and process how to apply for the additional funds. And if that happens, you already have from the from the road studies, I guess, that you have, do you have particular roads in mind to probably tag into that if it happens real quickly? We have roads all the way up to [1:28:40, 1:28:43]: Twenty thirty. Okay. So [1:28:43, 1:28:47]: All right. Good deal. Thank you, sir. Appreciate any other qu questions from Mr. Aaron? [1:28:48, 1:29:07]: I see some wits on plantation in there. Okay. I have no question. I need a motion. I do have no motion. My hand has been raised. Um thank you, sir. You're welcome. Um I wanted to I wanted you to leave that on the screen. It was kinda catty cornered so it didn't show all of the details on there. [1:29:08, 1:29:13]: Sorry. That was one question. Um the other one, Mr Aaron. [1:29:14, 1:29:20]: This scaled total score, that's the score or grading for each of the roads. [1:29:21, 1:29:31]: Yes, ma'am, each role has a grade. Okay, so I'm looking at district four and looking at the score. Looks like m all well [1:29:33, 1:29:42]: Out of four of these roles, three of them are in very poor condition. So but that's what it looks like. Those are the roles too that we inherited from. [1:29:42, 1:29:46]: Are those the ones um behind public? [1:29:47, 1:29:48]: Um [1:29:48, 1:29:51]: Down east Atlanta, yes ma'am, those and then [1:29:52, 1:29:54]: Nottingham Court is [1:29:55, 1:29:58]: One of the ones off Davis Road. If you drive that one [1:29:59, 1:30:17]: you'll realize it does need to be resurfaced. Like when we received the additional funds this year, we got a lot of complaints from I think it was a drive um through the area. From Adrian, so we went ahead and resurfaced that one. Thank you, sir. I was just perplexed because I see this one road in my district. Um [1:30:18, 1:30:38]: The grade seems moderate. I mean, seems okay. I'm sure that there are other areas that could use um resurfing resurfacing before this one. Sometimes along with the grades, you also look at length because some road might be three miles long. So we're looking at [1:30:38, 1:30:44]: length when we're trying to get at least one mile in each uh district and state within our budget. [1:30:44, 1:30:46]: Gotcha. Thank you, sir. [1:30:47, 1:30:49]: Okay, any other questions? If not. [1:30:50, 1:31:03]: If not, then I need a motion to accept this, please. So moved. I second. Okay, from Ms. Gantt uh, Ms Mr. Ms. Zoom. Ms. Barber. All fair please indicate? Yeah. Okay, it's unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Okay. [1:31:05, 1:31:25]: Uh let's see here. Council consideration approved the renewal of the request for proposal RFP number two zero two two-six. On call annual general uh engineering services for the city Stockbridge and Carter and Sloop Incorporated. This is a third uh contract renewal option and a budget amount. [1:31:24, 1:31:44]: The third contract renewal option expires December 31, 2025. Mr. Aaron, please. December. [1:31:44, 1:31:59]: Yes, sir. Okay. So Carter and Sloop is one of our two on-call engineers. They do a lot of our water and sewer infrastructure designs for us. So we're asking to be able to renew uh renew for the third renewal. Okay. [1:32:00, 1:32:02]: Any questions for Mr. Aaron, Council? [1:32:02, 1:32:05]: Mr. Aaron, just so I don't overlook it. [1:32:05, 1:32:09]: Is the pricing and cost proposal in here? [1:32:10, 1:32:11]: I know that this is a renewal. [1:32:12, 1:32:16]: I have trust issues. So I wanna see for myself. [1:32:16, 1:32:36]: But but here's how this works. We put this number in here like 200,000. It's based on if they do do a task force, there's a cost. If they do no projects for, there's no cost. So we just put a a number in there, cause it's coming out of SPLOSS in case there's a project we identified during the year that [1:32:36, 1:32:47]: Like we having some issues with our sewer infrastructure. We decide we want to make upgrades. We know we have the$200,000 in supplies for that if we want to do a specific project for that. [1:32:47, 1:32:50]: But so I want [1:32:51, 1:32:55]: It mentions the pricing and cost proposal. [1:32:55, 1:32:59]: So I just want to see it for myself though. I get it. [1:33:00, 1:33:01]: Um you're only [1:33:02, 1:33:03]: Use this if it's needed. [1:33:04, 1:33:15]: I get it. Yes. Um, but you're bringing me a renewal of a contract and I wanna know the full terms of the contract, the amount I do see um in this [1:33:16, 1:33:17]: This is [1:33:19, 1:33:21]: The second page of the contract. [1:33:22, 1:33:25]: So number three, it talks about the compensation. [1:33:25, 1:33:27]: It mentions exhibit B. [1:33:27, 1:33:29]: Which is the cost proposal. [1:33:29, 1:33:32]: I wanna see it. You included the contract. [1:33:32, 1:33:34]: I just want to see exhibit B. [1:33:34, 1:33:54]: So going forward, we had a conversation with the city manager that we will get that. We're uploading the information that's presented to us from procurement. So we will going forward, that sheet is not a part of the the package that was sent to us, but going forward, we will ensure that those are on all renewals going forward. Thank you, sorry. I just want to make sure. [1:33:54, 1:33:57]: that I wasn't overlooking it. Councilwoman Gantt did you find it? [1:34:00, 1:34:11]: I'm sorry, point of order. I was just being honest about the status. Don't need to comment. No. I'm sorry. I do you see it? It just happened to be. Yeah, right here. [1:34:13, 1:34:26]: Okay, so any other questions from the council about this? All right. If there are questions I need a motion I need a motion to accept this uh proposal, please. So move. Is there a second? No. Second. For okay, from this Gantt to Mr. Perry. [1:34:28, 1:34:30]: A a Gantt to bury. [1:34:31, 1:34:33]: You're welcome. All fair please indicate. [1:34:34, 1:34:34]: Mm. [1:34:34, 1:34:42]: Okay, is it all indicate? Is there a unanimous decision? I am going to abstain. Okay, three zero one. [1:34:43, 1:34:48]: For a comment, this is for the record. Um, the pricing or cost proposal, exhibit B. [1:34:49, 1:34:50]: Is not included. [1:34:50, 1:34:52]: Someone abstained, only for that reason. [1:34:53, 1:34:54]: Mm. [1:34:54, 1:34:59]: Okay, council consideration to approve the renewal request for RFP number two zero. [1:35:01, 1:35:03]: Zero zero zero six [1:35:04, 1:35:11]: Excuse me, number two zero two two-six, on-call engineering services for the city of Stockbridge and Falcon Design Consultants. [1:35:12, 1:35:16]: L L C. Mr. Yes, Mr. Mayor. [1:35:16, 1:35:35]: As I mentioned earlier, the city has two on-call engineers, uh, Carter and Sloop and then Falcon Design. Falcon does a lot of our civil engineering for us as well as stormwater. They also assist us with our sanitation and stormwater building. So we're asking council to approve the third renewal of their contract. [1:35:35, 1:35:36]: Okay, questions counsel. [1:35:38, 1:35:39]: No. Mayor. [1:35:39, 1:35:57]: Ms. Ma'am. I would like to make a motion to approve the um annual general engineering services for the I'm sorry, the which one am I? Right here. The council to approve the renewal and request for on called general engineering services with Falcon Design Consultants. [1:35:57, 1:36:17]: Is that a second that motion? Okay, from Ms. Gamp to Miss Murder again. Yes, sir. I would say uh for final clarity, I want to say for disclosure, Falcon has been very big uh a supporter of our nonprofit organization. They have made donations to our nonprofit organizations, but on the advice of legal, certainly. [1:36:17, 1:36:22]: disclosure was necessary, but it was did not compromise my ability to vote. [1:36:24, 1:36:24]: Okay. [1:36:25, 1:36:27]: If no other questions, all in favor of the motion, please indicate? [1:36:29, 1:36:30]: Okay, three [1:36:30, 1:36:35]: Um Mayor, I'm going I'm going to abstain because [1:36:35, 1:36:40]: And I want to add a comment. Three three zero one motion passed. The exhibit B [1:36:41, 1:36:44]: Again, the cost proposal is not included. [1:36:45, 1:36:46]: That's all. Thank you. [1:36:47, 1:36:47]: Okay. [1:36:49, 1:37:09]: Okay. Council consideration to approve the renewal contract RFP number two zero one eight dash zero zero one zero Q non hazard hazardous special waste disposal services for the public services an amount of sixty five thousand dollars. Funding sources the sewer department budget. Ms. Darren, please. Real quick. [1:37:09, 1:37:11]: [5831.8, 5839.1]: Can we ha I'm just I just wanna make sure. Can we have a cost proposal for projects that we don't know what we're gonna be [1:37:19, 1:37:26]: Proposing. I mean, they're up in the air. It's it's depending on what takes place. Is that not correct? [1:37:27, 1:37:47]: There's a rate sheet that the engineers provided as part of the RFP. So when we have a project we're thinking of, we would sit down with either Falcon or Carter and Sloop and say, this is what we're proposing to do. They normally prepare a task order for us. If it exceeds the city manager's signing authority, we bring it to council. [1:37:47, 1:37:59]: ask for your approval to move forward with the task order before we do anything. And then as part of the task order, once everything is designed, then they'll provide us a cost estimate and then we'll come forward. [1:38:00, 1:38:20]: With this is what is probable cost and then to get Yay or Nay to move forward with that project. So basically we can't have just a cost proposal right now because we're not talking about a specific project right now. And when we do get one, you bring it back to us. Is that not correct? Yes, ma'am. If it if it doesn't ex if it exceeds to see [1:38:19, 1:38:24]: Okay. So [1:38:25, 1:38:31]: What other cost proposal table would we have here if we don't have [1:38:32, 1:38:40]: We I mean we're talking about r potential future random projects, but there's nothing concrete as of yet. So when we get them [1:38:40, 1:38:42]: We get them approved. [1:38:43, 1:38:50]: per per transaction, correct? Yes. Okay. I just wanna make sure because I didn't wanna I didn't want mayor counsel [1:38:51, 1:38:51]: To [1:38:52, 1:38:56]: Um not be efficient or competent. [1:38:56, 1:39:16]: Or overlook something that we should have been looking at, but we can't we can't look at it because it's not there, because we don't know what project we're gonna have. So this this is just uh what I what we voted on was simply an approval to renew a request proposal on call Jim. [1:39:16, 1:39:36]: General Engineering Services on call, meaning on call per at per per need. Okay. Not something concrete. Okay. So we don't, there's no way of there's no way of figuring out something concrete right now. All right, so I've read, uh we're on number 12. I already read number 12. [1:39:36, 1:39:44]: reference to the uh non hazardous special waste disposal disposal services. Yes ma'am. I'm sorry. Yes I'm sorry. You have a question? [1:39:45, 1:39:55]: I have a comment, not a question. And I appreciate it, Mayor, if you acknowledge my hand when I raise it. I'm being very patient down here. Um so [1:39:56, 1:40:00]: to just add to what Councilwoman Gantt has mentioned. [1:40:00, 1:40:20]: Um, the reason why it is important for me, and I know each of us vote individually, the way I look at it is I want to know what the rate is. I know that there's no particular project before us to approve. I want to see what their cost proposal, which would include their rates when they submitted their proposal. [1:40:20, 1:40:26]: Just the same as with item 12. We'll get to that though, but there is a rate. [1:40:27, 1:40:29]: $95 per ton. [1:40:29, 1:40:32]: We don't know how much trash or [1:40:32, 1:40:39]: There or debris that they're gonna take away in a year. We know that. We don't know that. But at least we know the rate. [1:40:40, 1:40:56]: That's exactly what I was looking for with the last item. I wanna see what the cost proposal is because in the cost proposal it will have a pricing schedule or at least the rate. But the fact that I only have just a contract that mentions exhibit B [1:40:56, 1:41:01]: But you don't give me the cost proposal which includes the price schedule or the rate. [1:41:01, 1:41:13]: I'm going to extend abstain every time. I'm real clear about what's happening. What I want to make sure is that all of the information pertaining to [1:41:13, 1:41:18]: the items that the council are voting on that the records reflect [1:41:19, 1:41:20]: The cause. [1:41:20, 1:41:22]: The actual rate [1:41:22, 1:41:33]: We're not speaking about a particular project. We're talking about services that are being provided. So I want to know what the rate is for the services that are being provided. [1:41:34, 1:41:42]: That's all. We're on number twelve once again. Non-hazardous special waste disposal services of red debt. [1:41:42, 1:42:02]: Mr. Aaron, please, your presentation. Yes, Mr. Mayor. Republic is one of the few landfills in the region that accepts sludge from wastewater treatment plants. Sludge is generated from the process at the wastewater treatment plant when uh the wastewater is clarified for dissolves, do not break down. We're allowed to land apply sludge. [1:42:02, 1:42:22]: Sludge, we have some fields, but with development, we're losing some of those fields. And also when it's wet, you cannot drive on the fields to spread the solids. And also, EPD allows only a certain amount of solids to be disposed on each field. So when you don't have that to go to, you have to take it to the landfill. So [1:42:22, 1:42:42]: Over the last few years, because of rain and other things, we've noticed that it we've had to take more to the landfill than we normally did. When I first got here, it was like$30,000,$35,000 a year. Now it's up to$65. So we're asking council to approve us to continue to use Republic to dispose of the sludge at the wastewater. [1:42:42, 1:42:42]: [6162.5, 6182.5]: The increase is due to what? Inflation or what what's your idea on why the increase? It's inflation and also the amount that we're putting out. You know, like I say, every time it rains, we cannot go on a field. When you exceed the limit that EPD allows you to spread on that field, you cannot go to that field. And we've also lost some fields due to development where people are selling. [1:43:02, 1:43:10]: Out their property for developments. I was gonna say, could this be related to the fact that we're growing the size? Would that have anything to do with this as well? No, sir. No, okay. [1:43:10, 1:43:10]: All right. [1:43:11, 1:43:23]: Just curiosity question. All right. Council, any questions? Oh yeah, so oh stand stand by sir. Stand by. Ms. Barber Goey, please. Thank you, sir. Um when in the last time was this service bidded out? Was it twenty eighteen? [1:43:25, 1:43:31]: Republic is the only landfill in the region that accepts sludge. [1:43:31, 1:43:50]: If we want to go like Damakin or Taylor County, we can take it down there, but the distance to take it there adds additional cost, Republic is the only one that's within a reasonable driving distance of the city of Stockbridge. Okay, I wanna ask the expert in procurement. Um [1:43:50, 1:43:51]: So [1:43:51, 1:43:56]: If you're saying they're the only ones that would make them soul source. So I need for [1:43:56, 1:44:16]: the finance manager or the city manager to attest that this is sole source and if that's the case I will approve it. Otherwise I won't approve it because it hasn't been bidded out. I didn't say I s I didn't say sole source. I said it's the only one within a reasonable driving distance to the city [1:44:16, 1:44:33]: Stockbridge. We can go far out. We we'll just spend more time on the road driving because Taylor County is the next closest one, which is down in Middle Georgia, outside of Fort Valley. So that's a two plus hour, two and a half plus hour drive to go down. Compared to the distance now? [1:44:33, 1:44:37]: This is in uh Lamar County, this landfill. So [1:44:38, 1:44:42]: All right. Uh so it's not about distance for me. [1:44:42, 1:44:46]: It is about the quality of service and the cost. [1:44:47, 1:45:07]: I want never mind. We we can move forward and vote. Okay, stand by. Mr Mr Alessandrias. For for clarity, the distance does increase the cost, right? I mean i in terms of the overall cost for the to be to to drive the truck down there and the pay for fuel and the time of that employee. And the tipping fees. [1:45:07, 1:45:15]: relatively the same. Right. And the thing about it, a lot of landfills don't want to take sluds because if it's not dry [1:45:15, 1:45:31]: thoroughly, then it impacts their operations as far as cover and then variance waste. So that's why most landfills do not accept it. And this is republic, correct? Yes. Okay. I know I thought you said GFL or something, but this is republic. Yeah. Okay. [1:45:31, 1:45:36]: Council, any other questions? If not, I need a motion to accept this, please. So move. Is there a second? [1:45:37, 1:45:41]: I say. Okay, so from Mr. Alexander to Mr. Barrett our favorite please indicate. [1:45:41, 1:45:42]: Okay. [1:45:42, 1:46:02]: Uh you abstain again now? No. Um so my question wasn't answered. I asked when was the last time was the when the last time was this was bidded out. That wasn't answered. Um and if it was twenty eighteen, this is for the record, uh I would oppose this. Oh so it's going to abstain for this one, this time. [1:46:02, 1:46:04]: So otherwise it it [1:46:05, 1:46:10]: Is so it is abstention now? Three zero one? Number twenty one. [1:46:11, 1:46:12]: Okay. [1:46:14, 1:46:34]: Council number 13. Council consideration approved the final contract. Renewal RFP request for proposal 201508-02 Sanitation Collection Services contract with Wrangler Holding Corporation GFL Environmental Formula Waste Industries in the amount of two million six hundred thousand dollars. Funding source sanitation [1:46:34, 1:46:38]: [6398.6, 6400.4]: Uh council would [1:46:40, 1:46:53]: Would expire or contract, excuse me, counter would expire on December thirty-first of twenty twenty six and the staffer is requesting extension until February twenty eighth, twenty twenty-seven, due to the holidays. [1:46:53, 1:47:13]: Ms. Aaron, please. So we're we're asking you to for this request. Only reason we ask is if you change vendors, then you're gonna be in the middle of the holidays where one vendor is picking up carts, one vendor is delivering carts. It's over 13,000 residential carts, and it's over 3,000 uh recycling carts. [1:47:13, 1:47:33]: carts. We're just trying to say if you would give us some additional time to get past the holidays, because there's going to be a lot of confusion with okay, this company is dropping off carts. This company is picking up carts. And during Christmas you have additional ways from Christmas and things like that. So we're just asking for an additional two months so that we don't be in the middle of the holiday season. [1:47:33, 1:47:36]: [6456.6, 6460.2]: Okay. Council questions. Just go right here, please. [1:47:40, 1:47:47]: Okay, so Mr. Aaron, I remember we had this this discussion um in twenty twenty-three. [1:47:47, 1:47:48]: When [1:47:48, 1:47:51]: The newly annexed residents came on board. [1:47:52, 1:47:55]: You promised me then that you were going to be [1:47:55, 1:47:58]: Путін з бекат форказ. [1:47:58, 1:48:00]: This is the same contract in [1:48:00, 1:48:03]: That was bidded out in twenty fifteen. [1:48:04, 1:48:14]: And the city has just been renewing it every year since then. I do not feel comfortable with approving a contract that has not gone out to bed. [1:48:15, 1:48:19]: In ten years, and we just kip renewing it. [1:48:20, 1:48:23]: I understand what you mean about um [1:48:23, 1:48:43]: Changing companies in the middle of the holidays, but those are um things that staff should be planning for ahead of time. I expected that a new contract, whether it be to the same contractor or another one, would be coming to this council and not just us again. [1:48:43, 1:48:53]: in renewing the same contract, the same vendor. That's not best practice and it's not good practice. I will be opposing this one. [1:48:53, 1:48:55]: But they can do whatever they want to do. [1:48:56, 1:49:16]: This is That's for the record. This is the final renewal. We No ma'am, I didn't. This is the final renewal. We already have the RFP and the Scope of Services already prepared to bid out. And I've been in this industry in this field for over 25 years. And most sanitation contracts, when they're contracted out, they're long-term contracts. [1:49:16, 1:49:36]: Contract to take advantage of economy of scale. Because right now we're charging our residents$22, but the going rate is about$30. We're gonna see that. When this renews, you're gonna see rates probably like$30,$35 versus what we're paying right now. So, but the longer-term contract. [1:49:36, 1:49:56]: Allows you to hold cost down because over that period of time the contractor, the vendor feels that they'll recoup the initial startup cost they had with carts and delivery and all of that stuff. So the long-term contract gets you better pricing. But this is going out to bid, I can assure you that the document is already prepared to go out. [1:49:55, 1:50:05]: But we just want to finish off this contract, which the contract allow these renewals just to do the final renewal and we'll move forward with bidding and out. [1:50:06, 1:50:24]: Uh if and if if I may, if if I may, I I just want to add to uh these these contracts and these conversations we had in depth and that's a lot of things that we consider before we we do that. And like you said, most of the contracts that we're talking about tonight are being constructed to to rebid. [1:50:25, 1:50:39]: Um however as looking at what's going on and looking at the overall picture, we wanted minimal disruption uh for this year. We have a lot going on this year. And the last thing we wanted to do was pull any type of contract, because once we pull it, they stop coming immediately. [1:50:40, 1:50:52]: If we pull the contract and then we still on the hook to pay out the rest of the year, but then they the residents don't get service. I'm trying to minimize any disruption this year in regards to that, but staff have been given clear guidance. [1:50:53, 1:50:57]: Any contract that we have been a part of for over five years. [1:50:58, 1:51:00]: Three to five years must be put out for rebid. [1:51:01, 1:51:13]: That is the instructions. But I just want to kind of give you an insight. When we sit down, we're talking about that because price is another thing. So that's just one of those things that we consider. We're trying to minimize any disruption for the rest of the year. [1:51:13, 1:51:25]: I have a question. What's semi? Ms. Barber. And this is the last time. Thank you, Mayor. And thank you for that, Mr. Edmondson. That's all I want. Um, I just wanna see it go out for bid. I wanna see us [1:51:25, 1:51:29]: I want to be able to compare cost across vendors. [1:51:30, 1:51:43]: Just by you telling me that the cost is more for another service provider, I don't know that. I want to see it. And I can't see it unless it goes through the competitive bidding process. Now on this agenda item request form. [1:51:44, 1:51:45]: It says um [1:51:46, 1:51:51]: request to renew it through February of twenty twenty seven. [1:51:55, 1:51:56]: I can't agree to that. [1:51:57, 1:52:04]: That's definitely a typo. It's supposed to say twenty twenty six. Okay, see th typos. Okay, that's all I have, Mayor. Thank you. [1:52:04, 1:52:08]: All right, Ms. February. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. [1:52:08, 1:52:28]: Past holiday of twenty twenty-sept. Oh, okay. Okay. So clarification here. Clarification. So apparently this contract's ends December 2026. So it we asked [1:52:28, 1:52:33]: However it's still [1:52:33, 1:52:36]: February twenty twenty seven. So [1:52:37, 1:52:48]: I guess we just kinda getting ahead of it because the contract's supposed to end this December. And of course, once it ends this December, then we just trying to make sure that extension goes through to twenty twenty seven. [1:52:49, 1:52:49]: Okay. [1:52:50, 1:52:51]: Yes, ma'am. [1:52:51, 1:52:57]: Okay. So now you confuse me. If we're trying to stay on a calendar year [1:52:57, 1:53:05]: That's what you're trying to do? It would end at the end of twenty twenty six, not February of twenty twenty-seven. Now you're [1:53:06, 1:53:14]: Ending a contract in the middle of the or at the start of the year again. Right. That's why we asked for the extension past the the the the termination date. Oh [1:53:15, 1:53:35]: 'Cause we trying to get asking for it for a whole nother year. No ma'am, just two months to get past the Christmas holiday. I'm just trying to minimize disruption. If you have somebody delivering carts and picking up carts during the holiday season, you're gonna be getting the calls saying, There's some confusion that I didn't get service, uh, they didn't pick up this, I didn't get a cart, we just [1:53:34, 1:53:44]: Trying to minimize that. I will make the motion then if you um one second you're asking that we approve this renewal. [1:53:45, 1:53:50]: To expire February at the end of February twenty twenty six. Twenty twenty seven. [1:53:51, 1:53:51]: We're in [1:53:53, 1:53:54]: This is twenty five. [1:53:55, 1:54:15]: Give me a motion and I'll make the motion. But it's gotta be less than a year. We're asking the renewal to December. It would be December 31st, 2026. But we're asking you to grant us two months months to get past the holiday season because we don't want to have the disruption where people are trying to deliver carts and people are picking up carts during [1:54:15, 1:54:35]: during the holiday season when that's the busiest time for sanitation service. Okay, so in twenty twenty three when we um had the newly annexed residents come in and they provided us with new um carts for those residents. You were supposed to put it out to bed then. That was in twenty twenty three. So all of twenty twenty four [1:54:35, 1:54:36]: Um [1:54:36, 1:54:38]: The council approved the renewal [1:54:38, 1:54:47]: for the 2024 services. So now here we are entering to third fourth quarter. [1:54:47, 1:54:48]: Uh [1:54:48, 1:55:08]: 2025 and you're asking us to renew it another year in two months. I can't support that, but I'm sure they will. Thank you, sir. Okay. Hold on. Ms um Ms Berry, go ahead, please. I'm sorry. I I I got a fundamental problem with the two month extension for um I f I feel like the services that we're bidding out of the companies [1:55:08, 1:55:22]: That may be bidding out should be well capable of doing a transitional plan as well as like dropping off trash cans and picking up. We we're not talking about the same company. I I firmly believe that if we go to a company, they're gonna be large enough to handle [1:55:23, 1:55:43]: depositing receptacles and then the other company will be picking up the old ones. They shouldn't be picking them up to the thirty first anyway. And so to make sure that the the you know there should be some type of plan in place that if they put in a bid, I expect the bid to have a plan, a transitional plan, a part of it. [1:55:43, 1:56:03]: I'm I'm leery because if we make the exception here, to go be beyond what we've already specified to put things on the 12 year calendar, have everything start at the same time, it makes it inconsistent. It makes us incongruent. And if you make an exception one time, you can make an exception other times. [1:56:03, 1:56:07]: And so I really wanna I really wanna make an effort to keep [1:56:08, 1:56:15]: They're all contracts the same because we just really got out of some situations with that being a issue. [1:56:15, 1:56:22]: And so um that that bothers me. Right. Because I really hope that the company that we go with, if we don't even go with the same company that we're with. [1:56:23, 1:56:30]: There's a possibility w that the company we're with could win it again and then there's no transitional plan. But yet we've renewed it in February. We don't it's a lot we don't know yet. [1:56:31, 1:56:31]: Right. [1:56:32, 1:56:52]: And and and that's a fair point and and and definitely that was a a point that we discussed as well. Um however, you know, leaning on his his his experience being here for a while, and it does happen. I've been through it before since I've been here, uh, where trash wasn't picked up in three weeks. Now you got a problem. So but at the end of the day, we [1:56:52, 1:57:05]: We we definitely understand that notion as well and we want to be consistent in our all our messages, especially when it comes to contracting. Um so if that's the will of the council, I mean we'll keep it the same, just the renewal and then we'll work it from there. [1:57:05, 1:57:09]: Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. I I'm more concerned about [1:57:10, 1:57:18]: Well, I I hear you guys are the experts, but I think about Christmas and I think about the holidays and I think about the amount of trash [1:57:18, 1:57:19]: Pick up. [1:57:20, 1:57:22]: That transition can be [1:57:22, 1:57:24]: Challenging. It's it's a lot. [1:57:25, 1:57:32]: Right. Well yeah, well see in February I maybe thirty days, but the the trash pickup for [1:57:32, 1:57:34]: December everybody knows. [1:57:35, 1:57:37]: is and then you have your [1:57:37, 1:57:42]: Don't forget you have your holiday time where you skip a day. So you got your New Year's Eve. [1:57:42, 1:57:54]: crew with the parties. You got your Christmas holiday parties. Not just Christmas Day, but holiday parties right throughout. And so there's a lot of sanitation and that transition [1:57:54, 1:58:04]: may b based off of their level of expertise, may very well be a challenge. That I that is what I'm considering. I'm also considering if I heard right, [1:58:05, 1:58:08]: I'm a little con uh you know, people are hurting. [1:58:09, 1:58:12]: So currently we're at a twenty two dollar [1:58:13, 1:58:16]: Break is that what we're at right now? [1:58:16, 1:58:20]: And when we put this contract out, like the economy and everything else. [1:58:21, 1:58:24]: It opens the door up for us to [1:58:24, 1:58:30]: increase the rates. And that includes even if this company was the lowest bidder. Is that correct? [1:58:32, 1:58:32]: No [1:58:33, 1:58:44]: Actually what the city has been doing is the city supplements the sanitation collection because GFL and their contract, they're allowed to [1:58:44, 1:58:48]: increase their their rates based on the CPEI. [1:58:49, 1:58:55]: And it's typically been averaging between three and five percent. They can't go higher than five percent. But [1:58:55, 1:59:11]: Council has voted always to hold the cost at a certain level because we was at twelve for a long time. Then we went up to seventeen, then we went up to twenty-two. So in actuality it's probably costing us like twenty-six, twenty-seven right now per car. [1:59:12, 1:59:17]: And and then you gotta take into account when you close the transfer station that [1:59:17, 1:59:19]: You're gonna have an increase. [1:59:19, 1:59:20]: as well. [1:59:21, 1:59:23]: in the tonnets disposal. [1:59:23, 1:59:33]: And and this day and time, due to um financials and everything else, th those things are gonna have to be taken into c account and consideration. [1:59:33, 1:59:42]: And so I just I want us to look at the totality of everything. I just in general for me, I look at the totality [1:59:43, 2:00:00]: in regards to where those funds are offset, whether or not the city will vote to offset certain amounts of costs. I mean, we've already offset some. Will the constituents be increasing their sanitation bills? I mean, so th all those things I take into consideration. [2:00:00, 2:00:08]: But I definitely take into consideration the amount of trash during holiday season from Thanksgiving. I'm talking Thanksgiving. [2:00:09, 2:00:10]: Christmas [2:00:11, 2:00:24]: And New Year's, you know, it that is a big transition. And so we do need to take that'cause it took a while, even with annexation, it didn't happen overnight. They weren't they had to stagger that. [2:00:24, 2:00:30]: There were a lot of challenges with that. There were a lot of complaints and it did not happen. [2:00:31, 2:00:34]: January one, that did not happen that way. [2:00:34, 2:00:44]: So I think that we need to be realistic in that and rely on the expertise of our city manager and of our um public works director. [2:00:48, 2:01:08]: Go ahead, sir. I would say maybe the compromise position is thirty days instead of sixty. Is is you that would still give us some time and but it Ms. Gantt makes a very strong point, which is I know my trash I really could use two trash cans at Christmas time or t you know, for that week. [2:01:08, 2:01:21]: And then for Thanksgiving too, especially when I have a gathering. And I know we still had a lot of complaints because they weren't able to pick up the trash. So if we could do a thirty day window, I certainly could support that. [2:01:22, 2:01:28]: I think what we'll do is we'll we'll modify, we'll make it work. We'll work with the vendor because I'd rather be consistent. [2:01:28, 2:01:48]: than then try to be safe than sorry, right?'Cause I I don't w uh with all due respect, Mr. Emerson, I I don't wanna I wanna I wanna be consistent too. Yeah, but I can't ignore the fact that we get complaints anyway after Christmas. I know. And certainly I think I just want to ask the council, I wanna put you on the spot, but are we okay with thirty days? [2:01:48, 2:02:00]: You okay with thirty days, Miss Berry? I I think thirty days is a is a good compromise. I think that's fair. But yeah. I think I'm uh I'm one second. They're still talking. [2:02:01, 2:02:01]: Okay. [2:02:11, 2:02:31]: Right. Well, that's what we're discussing now, ma'am, because without the extension, it will end December thirty-first, twenty twenty six. Uh, but that's why we was asking for the extension because of that time frame. But if if it's opposition to that, one once again, it's something that we just have to work towards next year to come up with a plan to ensure there's a smooth transition. [2:02:31, 2:02:41]: Uh we were just trying to think outside the box um and and kinda look at those different challenges in the event they are a transition. And like you said, Councilmember Berry, it may be a opportunity where [2:02:42, 2:03:02]: Right. So we would just you know, he brought it to my attention and I thought about that and I was a good consideration. Our job is to present the facts where they may be, and those are challenges that we may have. So it's it's on us to to put that out there for something for you to consider, uh, and then go from there. If it's not one, then you got an [2:03:02, 2:03:05]: Right. [2:03:06, 2:03:26]: But but it's offset by one month, by thirty days. That's not what they're saying. They're saying the early yeah, January twenty twenty-seven. So thirty days. Okay. So a year and a month, not a year, not the end of two months. [2:03:26, 2:03:28]: Years. [2:03:28, 2:03:31]: And one month for transition period. [2:03:31, 2:03:33]: Yeah, we Ms. Barber Goy, please. [2:03:33, 2:03:39]: When I asked this question originally, I asked Mr. Edmondson. [2:03:40, 2:03:45]: Are you asking for this to expire in twenty twenty six or twenty twenty seven? He said it was a typo. [2:03:46, 2:03:48]: So what was the typo? [2:03:48, 2:03:53]: It was a misunderstanding. So it was it was a it was a misunder [2:03:54, 2:04:07]: It was a misunderstanding for me the way it was said, but it's it's not a typo. And so I just wanted to be clear on that. I was thinking December twenty twenty seven. So not February twenty twenty seven. So this wouldn't so I stand corrected. [2:04:07, 2:04:11]: twenty this wouldn't be a traditional twelve month [2:04:12, 2:04:32]: Agreement. This will be more of a thirteen or fourteen month agreement. Yes, ma'am. Which will end at the end of January twenty twenty seven or february twenty twenty seven. Yes, ma'am. That is what we're talking about. Yes, ma'am. Uh I wanna make sure that I'm on the same page because I was [2:04:32, 2:04:35]: thrown off when you said it was a typo. [2:04:36, 2:04:36]: So [2:04:40, 2:04:48]: I am going to hold Mr. Aaron to what he said in twenty twenty-three. I do not support renewing contracts. [2:04:49, 2:04:52]: This is a contract that has been in place for ten years. [2:04:53, 2:04:53]: Ten. [2:04:54, 2:04:56]: The original contract was for [2:04:56, 2:04:57]: Five years. [2:04:57, 2:04:58]: With optional [2:04:59, 2:05:01]: One year renewals up to [2:05:01, 2:05:06]: five times. That's ten years and has not gone out for competitive bidding. [2:05:08, 2:05:09]: We won't know. [2:05:10, 2:05:16]: What cost will come to us until it goes through the competitive bidding process? [2:05:18, 2:05:27]: I can't support this. I understand your rationale. I do. And of course I don't want there to be a disruption to the service. [2:05:27, 2:05:28]: Other residents here. [2:05:28, 2:05:30]: We need to plan better. [2:05:31, 2:05:32]: In fact, I'm the one. [2:05:32, 2:05:36]: Who brought forth a motion to require the staff. [2:05:36, 2:05:40]: Bring these contracts to the council a hundred and twenty days. [2:05:41, 2:05:43]: before the expiration date because [2:05:43, 2:05:46]: They just been droppin' em in our lap at the end of the year. [2:05:46, 2:05:49]: Or as they are expiring the night before. [2:05:50, 2:05:50]: So [2:05:52, 2:05:54]: I'll just let the rest of [2:05:54, 2:06:01]: the council decide whatever way they want to go, but I can't support remov renewing this any further. [2:06:01, 2:06:02]: It's been ten years. [2:06:03, 2:06:05]: That's all. Thank you. Any other questions, Council? [2:06:05, 2:06:15]: I have one. What what was the reason is there a reason why we didn't bit put this out to bid for this year or m right now? Is there was there a reason? [2:06:17, 2:06:33]: Because procurement has said we had a good contract and they and we had additional renewals that were available. That's why we we've always renewed it. But like I said, we do have the scope of services already to bid this out when that time come and we did have one renewal remaining. [2:06:33, 2:06:35]: Okay. [2:06:36, 2:06:38]: Exercise that option. [2:06:38, 2:06:58]: Right. For a smooth transaction. Yes. And transition. Okay. Well then having said that I make a motion to approve this with an additional one month. So one year ending in twenty twenty six plus one and and ends you know, the contract is supposed to end [2:06:58, 2:07:05]: December twenty twenty six. I mean and so we give them an additional month of January thirty first. [2:07:05, 2:07:06]: for transitional period. [2:07:07, 2:07:09]: Is there a second to the motion? [2:07:09, 2:07:14]: If they're not just in case they could be the same. [2:07:15, 2:07:35]: But Berry, Berry, Miss Berry. Again, I want to make sure that for disclosure, uh GFL had volunteered to for our book bag giveaway in uh in July. I've been told by the legal that certainly that needs that I would disclose. [2:07:34, 2:07:38]: Closed, but it did not affect my ability to vote. Is that correct? [2:07:39, 2:07:43]: Yes. The motion has been made. All in favor of the motion, please indicate three [2:07:45, 2:07:46]: And you astain, Ms. Barnaby? [2:07:47, 2:07:59]: I will oppose this. Oppose it, okay. Yeah, you can make a statement. Three three one zero. Three one zero. A re really quick comment, Mayor Ford. Go right ahead, please. Okay. I'm opposing this because [2:08:00, 2:08:02]: This was a contract that was awarded. [2:08:03, 2:08:05]: Originally in twenty fifteen. [2:08:06, 2:08:07]: With a five year [2:08:08, 2:08:09]: Turn. [2:08:10, 2:08:11]: With an additional [2:08:11, 2:08:15]: One є renewal up to five additional є. [2:08:16, 2:08:17]: That's a teen year contract. [2:08:17, 2:08:21]: without it being advertised for competitive bidding. [2:08:21, 2:08:23]: I believe in competitive bidding. [2:08:24, 2:08:30]: We are here to make sure that we are getting the best services for the best price. [2:08:33, 2:08:34]: That's best practice. [2:08:34, 2:08:35]: Thank you. [2:08:36, 2:08:56]: Congratulations, gentlemen. That one passed there. Council consideration to approve the renewal requests for proposal RFP 2024-0005 for janitorial maintenance services with intercontinental commercial services incorporated, an amount of$143,100. Uh funding sources, government building. [2:08:56, 2:09:16]: Department uh budget, and this is a second renewal. Mr. Yes, Mr. Mayor, this is the contract price,$143,100 for the renewal of the contract with ICS. Um the buildings that are a part of this are the police department, public works administrative buildings. [2:09:16, 2:09:29]: City Hall, Merrill Manders, the Stockbridge Downtown Connection Center, Municipal Court, the Maintenance Shop, the Wastewater Plant, and also the Merrill Manders Admin Building. [2:09:31, 2:09:49]: Council, any questions from Mr. Aaron? I do, Mayor. Go right ahead, please. What is the difference between the Merrill Manders Conference Center and the Merrill Manders Conference Center admin building? Is that the events? It's it's the offices for the uh Merrill Manders staff. So that building is separate from the Merrill Manders. [2:09:50, 2:10:02]: Where's the office building for the Merrmander staff? Is it inside of the Merrmander? No, ma'am, it's a separate it's a separate building at the intersection of Davis Road and and So where the events department is. Yes, ma'am. Okay, thank you. [2:10:03, 2:10:16]: Any other questions for the club? Let me just say this. Go ahead, please. Me, I don't know if it's me, but I wanna make sure that the janitorial team, whoever we talk to, the restrooms. They need to focus on the restrooms. [2:10:16, 2:10:18]: From the floor to the ceiling. [2:10:18, 2:10:38]: To the corner behind the toilet, to all of that. Restrooms are extremely important to everyone. So whoever the contract is being rewarded to, we need to start upping what we're doing in the restrooms in these facilities to make sure that they're being taken care of at the level that we need them to. I mean, steam cleaning the floor, whatever needs to be. [2:10:38, 2:10:45]: be done because again I just I'm not seeing the quality of work in the restroom that I like to see. [2:10:46, 2:10:50]: Yes, sir. No other questions I need a motion to accept this, please. [2:10:51, 2:10:58]: So moved. Mr. Alexander. Alexander. Okay, fantastic. [2:10:58, 2:11:05]: All right, for discussion, Rock Cory Road Extension Update. Mr. Aaron, along with uh [2:11:06, 2:11:08]: Falcon design consultants. [2:11:08, 2:11:09]: It says here. [2:11:10, 2:11:15]: You wanna come forward, sir, and talk about this? Rock Corey extension, update. [2:11:23, 2:11:31]: Do we have access to the drawings in here? They're on my computer. Yeah, I think [2:11:32, 2:11:35]: Is there is there a presentation you gotta put put on? I've got a drawing. [2:11:36, 2:11:39]: We have a drawing in our book, but you wanna put it on the screen? [2:11:43, 2:11:44]: Okay. [2:12:08, 2:12:09]: I knew it's over here. [2:12:56, 2:13:01]: Hold on, I'm getting old. I can't see like I used to. Gotta take my glasses off. [2:13:03, 2:13:04]: Gas and too far. [2:13:04, 2:13:13]: No. I actually can see far with them, but then when I get up close I don't need glasses at all. I can't see anything with them on. It's weird. [2:13:20, 2:13:24]: Well, there it is. [2:13:48, 2:13:49]: All right. [2:13:50, 2:13:52]: So I've got [2:13:53, 2:13:55]: Ту перспектив концепс. [2:13:57, 2:14:05]: Dus just came to me a while back and asked us to look at analyze Rock Quarter Road extension where the widening will dead end in the forty-two highway. [2:14:05, 2:14:05]: Yeah. [2:14:06, 2:14:07]: To see what [2:14:07, 2:14:10]: Options are where we could take it to help alleviate traffic. [2:14:11, 2:14:15]: Before I get started I want and everybody know this is common sense. [2:14:16, 2:14:20]: probably the next step in all this is very possibly a traffic study. [2:14:21, 2:14:21]: So [2:14:22, 2:14:30]: 'Cause a lot of these options are just something that by experience I'm looking at, but we really need to analyze it from a traffic count standpoint. [2:14:30, 2:14:32]: number of lanes, what we're gonna need. [2:14:32, 2:14:37]: But I wanted to show you where we could possibly take it. So this first option [2:14:38, 2:14:40]: Uh this is forty two here. [2:14:41, 2:14:44]: North is actually to the left to fit it all on one page. [2:14:45, 2:14:49]: Uh if you look back here to the south, this is the connector at [2:14:49, 2:14:55]: Uh Chrissa. Chrissa Drive, yes. Uh [2:14:55, 2:14:58]: So like I said, this intersection forty two going north. [2:14:59, 2:15:02]: Basically what we're proposing to do is to follow the [2:15:02, 2:15:05]: Uh, there's a small transmission line here. [2:15:06, 2:15:07]: That comes up through here. [2:15:08, 2:15:11]: So we're following that with more or less four lanes. [2:15:13, 2:15:20]: And then we're hooking the road up to Caressa. So when we get to here, the road [2:15:20, 2:15:22]: We know the road's gotta get to here. [2:15:23, 2:15:26]: So you guys own this property here. This is the new uh [2:15:27, 2:15:28]: Oh my gosh. [2:15:29, 2:15:38]: Well Tim Coffee Coffee Shotons, thank you. Tim Hortons, thank you. So that is here and has been uh permitted, I believe. [2:15:40, 2:15:46]: Uh so there is room as you can see to the east of Tim Hortons for another out parcel. [2:15:47, 2:15:52]: There's also room here for a marketable outparcel as well as this area here. [2:15:52, 2:15:54]: Which I believe the city owns all that. [2:15:56, 2:16:00]: So when we get here, there's really only two options. We can go west. [2:16:01, 2:16:03]: Or we can go east. Either way. [2:16:04, 2:16:05]: Oh. [2:16:05, 2:16:06]: You know [2:16:06, 2:16:08]: presents its issues. [2:16:09, 2:16:14]: So if I keep going north, this is old Conyers Road on this end of the screen. [2:16:16, 2:16:21]: So there's two ways to intersect with old Connors. This is where the traffic study kinda comes into play too. [2:16:22, 2:16:33]: Uh right now I've got it deadening in old Conyers, which would probably result in a traffic signal. The other way you could do it is which I have not drawn it this way,'cause like I said, this is very conceptual. [2:16:33, 2:16:46]: is we could put a radius in here and basically make what is old Conyers here T into this road and keep that traffic moving and going to old Conyers that direction. Okay. [2:16:46, 2:16:47]: That makes sense. [2:16:48, 2:17:07]: That is a possibility to do this. Well yeah, I'm sorry, let me interrupt you. So but if you do that, how do you get people f off this road, uh the extension to go s uh in a more westerly, southwesterly type of direction? Well, if you want to go towards East Atlanta, is what you're saying? Yeah, right. That's my next option. Okay. [2:17:08, 2:17:10]: So [2:17:10, 2:17:20]: This is going this is taking it to old Conyers. Right now it's dead ending, which I suspect, strongly suspect that will be a signal. Traffic study will probably show that. [2:17:21, 2:17:28]: Or we could radius this and keep it going on Old Conyers, kinda to the northeast and keep traffic moving that way. [2:17:29, 2:17:32]: Now my next option is probably going to [2:17:33, 2:17:43]: This is the next option. As you can see here, this is what you were talking about, Mayor. Trying to go towards East Atlanta and alleviate that traffic. So there is a street here. [2:17:45, 2:17:47]: What's the name of that street? I don't have it on this [2:17:49, 2:17:52]: Had it on the other map. Now I don't know where [2:17:53, 2:17:55]: Why I don't have that on here? [2:17:55, 2:17:56]: Weird. [2:17:56, 2:17:58]: So this is East Atlanta here, City Hall's over here. [2:18:01, 2:18:02]: Yes. [2:18:04, 2:18:05]: So [2:18:06, 2:18:20]: Another thing to keep in mind here is if you're following my cursor, this dark line, squiggly line on both sides is the floodplain of the river that goes behind the wastewater treatment plant. This is the treatment plant here, just to give you where we're at. [2:18:22, 2:18:29]: So crossing that thing is a bear. So on the other design here, we're having to cross it. And that very likely could be a bridge. [2:18:29, 2:18:31]: Mm-hmm. That will be cost. [2:18:33, 2:18:36]: Several million dollars just to do the bridge by itself. [2:18:37, 2:18:37]: Uh [2:18:38, 2:18:41]: So this other way I've gone is [2:18:41, 2:18:42]: You don't need a bridge. [2:18:42, 2:18:43]: Not right now. [2:18:44, 2:18:49]: Anyway, because you're crossing over and getting on the East Atlanta down here. [2:18:50, 2:18:55]: Here's old Conyers intersection. Publix is over here. Off the page. Apologize for that. [2:18:56, 2:19:09]: And we're merging and using the existing road bed for Duvall and coming around and getting Rock Quarry. And I do not draw it on here, but East Atlanta will be teed in at that point to [2:19:10, 2:19:15]: East Atlanta will uh the traffic will drop with the exception of probably when you're having events at City Hall. [2:19:16, 2:19:22]: Because most people will continue straight down Rock Quarry. Once again, traffic study will show that. [2:19:23, 2:19:24]: And would analyze that. [2:19:25, 2:19:37]: So there's a lot of ifs, ands and buts with these two plans that need to be resolved, probably in a traffic analysis. I don't see any other way with current infrastructure, buildings. [2:19:37, 2:19:39]: Your wastewater treatment plant right here. [2:19:40, 2:19:45]: I don't see any other way to get to Old Conyers other than kind of what I've showed you in that general area here. [2:19:47, 2:19:50]: 'Cause there's your treatment plant. You can't go through that. [2:19:50, 2:19:51]: So [2:19:51, 2:19:53]: And we can't go west of that. [2:19:54, 2:19:55]: So [2:19:55, 2:20:01]: The only way I could see that we could avoid it is to kinda use Duval and merge on the to uh [2:20:02, 2:20:03]: East Atlanta. [2:20:03, 2:20:07]: That would keep traffic continually flowing from East Atlanta to Rock Quarry. [2:20:07, 2:20:13]: That would probably from a traffic standpoint be the best case scenario. Now you do have to [2:20:13, 2:20:18]: go through Duvall. Now what I've proposed right now is basically Duvall will just be a two lane road. [2:20:19, 2:20:20]: And then we taper [2:20:20, 2:20:25]: when we get over here to the kind of more commercialized area and we taper it out to four lanes. [2:20:26, 2:20:28]: I'm guessing right now guys'cause I [2:20:28, 2:20:30]: Like I said, my [2:20:30, 2:20:32]: advice would be the next step in this [2:20:33, 2:20:35]: Сто анализ трафик альсис on both [2:20:36, 2:20:41]: these drawings, both these plans to see what works, what can work, what do we gotta do? [2:20:42, 2:20:43]: Uh where are the signals? [2:20:44, 2:20:46]: So that sort of thing. [2:20:46, 2:20:50]: So I didn't really see a third option. [2:20:51, 2:20:52]: To extend Rock Quarry Strait. [2:20:54, 2:20:58]: Not that's feasible. And even some of these, I mean, they've got a lot of questions. [2:20:59, 2:21:01]: Okay. Yeah, go ahead, please. [2:21:02, 2:21:22]: Certainly I think this project is a long term project. Obviously, we want to get Rock Quarry Road widened first and then uh kinda work our way toward this. Um I guess long term I would probably and you might ask your opinion, it'd probably be a phased project. Maybe that first section. [2:21:22, 2:21:35]: that you see there that is the four lane might be built first where it gives us uh access and then uh that potential. You probably you might not even have if you phase it. So I see where you're going with that. [2:21:35, 2:21:41]: So let's say we phased here and just connected here. Right. That would help you with, you know, amphitheater traffic. Right. [2:21:42, 2:21:45]: And it you could definitely do that. And and if you did that, I don't [2:21:46, 2:21:55]: I would probably recommend you go ahead and build the four lanes, but the traffic analysis may not even show you need that at that point if you're not connecting it. So just you yes, you could definitely phase that. [2:21:56, 2:22:16]: Right. And that way it would give us, as you said, all the people now that is trying to get down East Atlanta Road, they would have a real true out where they could get to this lane and get to Rot Quarry Road and Rock Quarry Road would be four lanes because it'll it'll be widened first in order to get us uh where we're going. Certainly [2:22:15, 2:22:35]: Um looking at this and understanding the bridge could be ten million dollars. I mean by itself, right? It could be, yeah. So if you just a rough ballpark and I know you know you hate doing this, but just a guess. Yes, I hate doing this. This early. [2:22:36, 2:22:48]: The two routes, the difference between the two routes. We went this way to Old Conyers with the bridge, a ballpark figure, and then if we went to East Atlanta, a ballpark figure. [2:22:49, 2:22:55]: Well it I I think I'll the ballpark figure is w I would need to do more analysis to do that. But [2:22:56, 2:22:57]: Having said that [2:22:58, 2:23:04]: You're gonna be the same all so you pointed out the bridge is the biggest financial difference. It could be [2:23:04, 2:23:18]: Yes, it could be upwards of ten million. Cause you see how wide that floodplain is. It's a big facility, and I don't see how we're going to put backfill of dirt in there. It's just it's gonna be a bridge, I think. Uh so this [2:23:19, 2:23:22]: Obviously would be a massive increase in cost in addition to [2:23:22, 2:23:25]: If you actually teed it into old Connors [2:23:25, 2:23:33]: Very likely there would be need to be a signal here. So that's another, you know, million dollars plus for a signal here. Now if you curved it in [2:23:34, 2:23:38]: Then you would uh not probably need a signal right here. Old Connors would then to be teed in. [2:23:39, 2:23:45]: You wouldn't be you you wouldn't have that. So the biggest difference between the two plans is the massive cost of this bridge. [2:23:45, 2:23:50]: Uh this plan here you obviously have [2:23:50, 2:24:06]: uh you know you're you're using Duval. So there's a cost here. Uh there's no doubt I I feel like if this was able to be a two-lane road extension, uh you know those houses could remain. [2:24:06, 2:24:07]: Uh [2:24:08, 2:24:11]: You know, obviously traffic would be drastically increased. [2:24:12, 2:24:18]: So there's like I said, there's pluses and minuses to both. Uh you know. [2:24:18, 2:24:38]: Right. And in in in in terms of financing this, this is gonna be multiple millions of dollars in order to find sense this. I would think that uh right now we're in T S PLOSS one. I would think that it would probably take a T PLOSS two project where the voters approved another one cent sales tax and [2:24:38, 2:24:58]: you know, put the millions of dollars that were necessary in order to um complete this project. But that first phase where right'cause right now we have two million dollars that is coming to us uh that was put in the I think it's the T s in the T splot. It was two mil two million dollars. Another number [2:24:58, 2:25:18]: next last blost,$2 million were put in there. The county had$4 million that they took out. We kind of re-engaged them on those dollars and see whether or not we might be able to bring them back at some point. But that little spur to Cressa might really help us to be able to open up [2:25:18, 2:25:38]: traffic through the um through that area and then be able to provide the actual relief to East Atlanta for events. But the other section is probably be uh somewhere down the road it will require a massive G dot or and or T splot contribution. [2:25:38, 2:25:43]: distribution in order to even make it feasible with the with the millions that it would cost. [2:25:43, 2:25:45]: Yeah, I mean it you know, the [2:25:48, 2:25:55]: spitballing in today's numbers, just eyeballing it, knowing what we bid recently, you're you're probably talking fifteen to twenty million, even for that option. [2:25:57, 2:26:02]: You know, I mean, I'm that's today and then the bridge option will add ten million to that. I mean, it's just, you know. [2:26:03, 2:26:12]: It is a lot. I mean that's our whole budget for the year. So again it would take tea splots or a regular splice s a significant amount. [2:26:12, 2:26:14]: Yeah. So thank you. [2:26:15, 2:26:16]: I'm done now. [2:26:17, 2:26:19]: Okay. One second please, if you don't mind. [2:26:20, 2:26:28]: I think the ultimate goal what the ultimate goal of this is to uh have a uh some type of road network to to connect n connect us to the hospital. [2:26:29, 2:26:49]: per se to have or some type of relief on Rock Roy as you get to the hospital. And so my thought process is that what would make better sense? Were people gonna come off of East Atlanta or they're gonna come off O more off of O'Conyers? And in reference to this, I mean it's a fruitful thought because I'm thinking along those lines, that's one of the reasons why we want to do this. Is to to we have a major hospital and the erosion [2:26:49, 2:26:53]: So where would people be c more or less connected to out of that? [2:26:54, 2:27:06]: Yeah. It screams East Atlanta to me. Okay. Well I'm just saying I'm just throwing this out there for conversation. It it I think it helps not only that for the hospital traffic and getting traffic to the interstate. [2:27:07, 2:27:23]: Uh, it also I think helps alleviate some of the back you might have on East Atlanta at the right in front of City Hall here. Okay. At the light, especially during peak hours. I mean it's pretty nasty out there with the back up. It would relieve that a great deal. [2:27:23, 2:27:27]: Uh especially if you do the four lane intersection up here. So uh [2:27:29, 2:27:29]: I mean [2:27:30, 2:27:37]: And and you guys have knowledge of this area too, just like me. Right. To me it makes sense that East Atlanta would provide the most [2:27:38, 2:27:40]: Okay. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [2:27:41, 2:27:49]: Thank you, Mayor. You're welcome. Um, and thank you. I always get you mixed up. What is your name? Adam Adam. You're Adam. Okay. Yes. [2:27:49, 2:27:51]: Mr Um Adam. [2:27:51, 2:27:53]: Uh this is my district. [2:27:53, 2:27:53]: Okay. [2:27:54, 2:27:56]: I know there's a whole lot of interest from others here. [2:27:56, 2:27:58]: Their interest is [2:27:59, 2:28:07]: Um, and other things, but I'm responsible for the people in the area. And if they are gonna be impacted, I wanna be. [2:28:08, 2:28:09]: Front and center. [2:28:09, 2:28:12]: And I want to have some input in this. [2:28:13, 2:28:17]: This project has been long prolonged long enough. [2:28:18, 2:28:26]: I remember back in twenty ten, I believe, the Board of Commissioners were talking about this area, extending the Rock Quarry Road. [2:28:26, 2:28:27]: Um [2:28:27, 2:28:29]: This is priority for me. [2:28:30, 2:28:32]: А much рада інвести. [2:28:32, 2:28:39]: our city's resources on this project, the Rock Quarry Road extension, all the way to Old Conyers Road. [2:28:41, 2:28:46]: Ideally for me, I'd like to see East Atlanta Road before lanes. [2:28:47, 2:28:47]: Um [2:28:49, 2:28:55]: We want to be able to flush out some of the traffic that's gonna build in our downtown area. [2:28:55, 2:29:00]: and cutting through Duval, it just doesn't seem like it's a [2:29:01, 2:29:07]: Good option, especially during the concert season when it's already heavily congested. [2:29:07, 2:29:08]: Um and if [2:29:09, 2:29:15]: People are traveling along East Atlanta Road and they wanna use the Rock Quarry Road [2:29:15, 2:29:17]: that cuts through Duval, they're just gonna get [2:29:18, 2:29:19]: Backed up in the traffic. [2:29:21, 2:29:23]: If there were [2:29:23, 2:29:24]: The extension [2:29:25, 2:29:32]: Or this Rock Query Road extension connected to Old Conders Road, at least those who are traveling down or traveling up. [2:29:32, 2:29:35]: East Atlanta Road from like the Fairview area. [2:29:35, 2:29:40]: They would be able to turn left onto old Conyers, and even the emergency vehicles. [2:29:41, 2:29:44]: If they needed to go to the northern end of our county. [2:29:44, 2:29:49]: they would be able to avoid all of the in congestion from the downtown traffic. [2:29:50, 2:29:52]: I like to stick with the original plan. [2:29:53, 2:29:55]: To extend Rock Quarry Road. [2:29:56, 2:29:57]: From North Henry. [2:29:57, 2:29:59]: All the way down to Old Conyers Road. [2:30:00, 2:30:03]: Ideally, that's what I would like to see. [2:30:04, 2:30:07]: Um and I'm okay with in investing as much [2:30:08, 2:30:09]: Money. [2:30:09, 2:30:11]: Resources as necessary. [2:30:11, 2:30:15]: I much rather invested in the infrastructure in new roads. [2:30:15, 2:30:15]: Then [2:30:16, 2:30:17]: Wasteful spending. [2:30:18, 2:30:19]: Well we have are just pictures. [2:30:20, 2:30:22]: Memories of a good time. [2:30:23, 2:30:38]: I want to see new roads and new infrastructure. I'm excited about this. Thank you, Mr. Aaron, for responding to my email and just my inquiry about the status of this. I'm excited, even though I know we're just discussing it at this point. [2:30:39, 2:30:46]: But I'm excited about the possibilities. And I believe um Mr. Malazi mentioned it best at one of our meetings. [2:30:47, 2:30:50]: You got to invest money to make money. [2:30:51, 2:30:52]: This is one of'em. [2:30:52, 2:30:57]: If we invested the money to build this road, it opens up opportunities. [2:30:57, 2:31:00]: For other developments. [2:31:00, 2:31:01]: To come along this route. [2:31:03, 2:31:04]: That's just the way I see it. [2:31:05, 2:31:05]: Um [2:31:06, 2:31:09]: I can you go back to that? Is this it? [2:31:09, 2:31:11]: This is the one that goes to old Conyers. [2:31:11, 2:31:12]: Okay. [2:31:13, 2:31:14]: Um [2:31:16, 2:31:19]: And yeah, we probably will need a traffic light there too. [2:31:19, 2:31:25]: Um I was just thinking Well, it depends if you T N or you just keep going around old Connors. There's ways to do that intersection to [2:31:26, 2:31:28]: Improved traffic flow. [2:31:29, 2:31:30]: Okay. [2:31:30, 2:31:31]: Um and [2:31:33, 2:31:44]: I know that we have some support on the federal level. We were able to get some federal dollars um and discuss our plans for that pedestrian bridge. [2:31:45, 2:31:48]: Um where are we with that, Mayor Ford? Do you know? [2:31:49, 2:31:52]: Pedestrian Bridge, you're talking about right here in the downtown area? Yeah. [2:31:52, 2:31:56]: Uh well actually we still have to get plans for that as far as I understand. [2:31:56, 2:32:00]: Initial thought process, but uh did they give us seat money for it? [2:32:00, 2:32:07]: At least for the design part of it. Right, for the design piece. I don't think we fully designed that out, that I recall. It's designed out. [2:32:07, 2:32:26]: Well, we can certainly take that same route um and request funding from our federal leaders to help us support this incredible new investment in our infrastructure right here in our downtown. So thank you, sir. I appreciate the update. [2:32:27, 2:32:47]: All right. Any other question for Mr. Adam here? I got a question. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Ms. Go ahead, Miss Bear. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Miss Bear. I had a question. I'm I'm leaning I know this is dish discussion right now as well, I'm kinda leaning toward the old carnage, but my question is centered around I'm I'm kinda like uh Councilwoman Barber. [2:32:47, 2:33:07]: I'm going through uh residential connecting that kind of really I already know what's gonna happen with that. That's that's gonna be a a nightmare. But I am uh in inquisitive about whether or not we can go the old contrast route but also build arterial roles, arteries that'll connect to it to kind of [2:33:07, 2:33:26]: alleviate so that it does both you get both things for your buck that you can kinda tee into old conjugates, but yet some of the uh Atlanta traffic can be teed into it with some of those residential roads. They won't feel like, oh, you ran this huge four lane road through my neighborhood. But however, I do have another way out. [2:33:27, 2:33:34]: Well the only way I mean there's there's a way to do that. You just you either extend evolve [2:33:35, 2:33:46]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So either either way, you know, you're going through an existing residential street and putting it as a basically a collector's street. [2:33:47, 2:33:48]: You gonna change the designation on it? [2:33:50, 2:33:53]: But yeah, I mean that's possible. You could go this route. [2:33:53, 2:34:08]: And just extend that road down like we did here. Mm-hmm. And that road goes straight out to East Atlanta. And then what's the road to the north of that Duvall? The next road up? Oh, this road right here? Bryant. Bryant. Yeah. So you could do that too. [2:34:11, 2:34:13]: Those wetlands. Okay. I like it. [2:34:14, 2:34:17]: Any other questions, concerns? This ma'am goes. Are those wetlands? [2:34:18, 2:34:24]: Over you're talking about in the floodplain. Uhhuh. More than likely there's some wetlands in there, yeah. When you see a floodplain that big [2:34:25, 2:34:29]: Uh you know, that's why that's one of the reasons. [2:34:29, 2:34:39]: Not only stormwater runoff related, you got so much water flowing through there when you got a floodplain that big, you're probably gonna need a bridge. Another reason you're gonna need a bridge is you would be stuck if you [2:34:40, 2:34:46]: You would have wetland and stream credits that would probably cost prohibitive for the project. [2:34:47, 2:34:48]: So [2:34:48, 2:34:50]: And um [2:34:50, 2:35:00]: I remember this project. I don't know if it was it the moss property involved. Me and um it was somebody's property'cause me and Councilman Thomas used to talk about it back in twenty. [2:35:00, 2:35:07]: thirteen when we before we got on council, Commissioner Holmes at the time was very interested in [2:35:08, 2:35:22]: expanding this and there was money that the county had to connect, but that money was used uh and moved and reallocated. So there is a lot of history behind it, but um y uh you kinda I it's kinda cloudy. [2:35:23, 2:35:38]: in regards to the history of it. Um, but I know that it was more of a county effort at the time and it would come out of over by Old Clansia East Atlanta Road at that point. Um [2:35:39, 2:35:47]: However, i you know, you're talking about wetlands, you're looking at the topo topo, topography of it in general, and um [2:35:48, 2:35:49]: You know [2:35:50, 2:35:57]: I love the future planning of it. I don't I don't know why it's here today, but I do [2:35:57, 2:36:01]: Love that we you know, we're bringing it back up and we're discussing it. [2:36:01, 2:36:02]: Um [2:36:04, 2:36:12]: I d I d I do know there's some history behind it and that funds were allocated and then they were they were removed, but they weren't our funds. [2:36:13, 2:36:14]: So [2:36:14, 2:36:19]: Um, those are a lot of issues and things that we have to discuss, and that that's history. [2:36:19, 2:36:22]: That I learned back in twenty thirті. [2:36:22, 2:36:34]: So even before that there was additional history way before I even considered it. So I would have to we would have to do a little bit more research on that. And then there's some property that is privately owned. [2:36:35, 2:36:42]: Um there's some other you know, there there are definitely a lot of challenges to that. But I appreciate the presentation. [2:36:43, 2:37:03]: Yeah, go ahead, sir. Let me just say this. Uh re basically the long and the short of it is the it's about thirty million dollars that would be necessary to complete this project. With what's what it'd probably be more than that, but with future dollars. But what's really going on is that'll be about the equipment. [2:37:03, 2:37:23]: equivalent what it's taking to widen Rock Quarry Road right now. And it took us almost thirty years. That took a bit, right? Yes, it's gonna it's gonna actually start, but it took I see them surveying it. Right, right. Do y'all know what that cost? If they rewarded it, it should start with it [2:37:23, 2:37:41]: And as the council starts to think about this [2:37:42, 2:38:02]: Is building this one the priority or is flipping road the priority? Which one is more important to us flipping or this particular project right here? And that's why I say the phases might be the phases of building this road where you built the first part, which is four lanes. [2:38:02, 2:38:20]: um initially and then because as you said and understanding what we've been through to build anything, when you try to go across those wetlands, then you gotta deal with the Army Corps of Engineers and the Federal Regulations if you get the money, right? [2:38:20, 2:38:30]: It's gonna be a it's gonna be painstaking and years before that that would happen. But if you looked at it and said, Okay, well we built that first section [2:38:30, 2:38:50]: There's no stream, there's no barrier, there's very it's on city on land, that would be the phase that we could actually uh effectuate very pretty quickly because it's extensionally gonna be the same no matter which choice that we make. But at the same time, this has to fit into our long-term plans because [2:38:50, 2:38:51]: I would think that [2:38:52, 2:39:12]: Some of the other projects that we gotta consider is flipping road needs widening now. And it's an existing road and this is a new road. So I would say probably the first portion of this that we could build it without having to wait 30 years in order to build it and then go to uh you know have [2:39:12, 2:39:32]: overall projects to me if we're looking at the next T-SPLOST, we would be talking about the first phase of this and then uh flip and roll because you you're not gonna get forty thirty-five or forty million dollars from the federal government. It's gonna have to come mostly from us working with the county. Thank you. [2:39:32, 2:39:52]: Uh let me ask you this, uh Adam. Um I should know the answer to this, but when you take the take the route to Ocanyas, there are several different property owners during that time frame. You have to get right you have to get the right of ways or things that nature from those individuals or buy some land. Is that correct? Yeah, if I recall right from my brief research in the tax records, I believe the same one [2:39:52, 2:40:12]: that owns this piece owns this piece. Okay. You'd probably mostly be dealing with one. You may be dealing with a corner here, Mayor. But all this is yours. Right, right. Yeah. I understand that that that part. But I want when you continue to go north uh to O'Connors, yeah, that there was there's a property owners there. Did you have to deal with [2:40:12, 2:40:20]: within this aspect, uh to negotiate with them to to get the right of ways and to purchase that from them, uh, provided they're willing to uh [2:40:21, 2:40:21]: Oh. [2:40:22, 2:40:38]: Play, I suppose. And a bridge. Right, on top of that as well. Okay. And so we're discussing this, but you mentioned about a traffic study. So s one of the things we need to come out of this before we go any further was whether or not we want to do a traffic study or not. And how to go about that and what that would cost us to do that in this aspect, I'm assuming. [2:40:40, 2:41:00]: Uh I d I don't have a quote on that ready, but I can certainly provide Mr. Aaron one through the consultant we work with on all your projects. All right. And the question is the scope of it. Right. Would you just want to analyze the connection to old Conyers one way or the other? But it'd be the council council needs to discuss. [2:41:00, 2:41:06]: But I just want to put that out there because I think that's one of the things you mentioned and thought we need to discuss that. On that note, what what's that? [2:41:07, 2:41:27]: One more thing. Real quick, we did approve a plan. Mr. Anderson's already left for that particular area of a master plan. So hopefully if that corridor is developed along with the uh Tim Hortons coffee, the developer could help us build or design, help us [2:41:27, 2:41:36]: contribute to build that first section because if they built uh that neighborhood in there it was um it was multifamily it was uh [2:41:36, 2:41:56]: It was town homes, single family homes, and then the Tim Hortons commercial park up front. That's the concept that was completed. And then uh, you know, it's certainly for or if a developer came in, it certainly would be in their best interest to help us build this section of the road. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Just as Mr. Grant who was in here earlier. [2:41:56, 2:42:02]: Right, right. I mean, same same deal. [2:42:03, 2:42:07]: Probably not quite as much commercial as Chin Chin and as the Jetico development, but [2:42:08, 2:42:08]: Uh [2:42:09, 2:42:29]: Similar analogy. Well what this is is really another Western parallel connector, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. It's raw land that's you're trying to connect these two entities and the Western parallel connector costs about fifty million dollars. I know you you know you're just throwing some numbers out there, but this is basically what they did. That section from Hudson Bridge to East Jodico. [2:42:29, 2:42:42]: connected. Yeah. Right. Absolutely. It's another Patrick Henry Park where you can. The wide the widening of a rock quarry road alone is fifty three million. The widening. [2:42:42, 2:42:48]: So fifty three million for the widening of Rock Quarry Road. What's going on right now? [2:42:48, 2:42:52]: And four milion was from t of course we. [2:42:53, 2:42:55]: Um came from Stockbridge. [2:42:55, 2:43:04]: But ten point nine came from Henry County and recovering the main and ten point nine mil and then you had G Dot and federal funds of twenty point four mil. [2:43:05, 2:43:06]: For that particular [2:43:07, 2:43:07]: Um [2:43:08, 2:43:08]: Project. [2:43:09, 2:43:17]: That they expect to complete in 2028. But the total amount of that project, just the widening of the lanes, was fifty-three million. I [2:43:17, 2:43:26]: Beg to differ. I think that that Western parallel is probably way double than that. I mean, you're looking at the mileage and the to the extreme of going from [2:43:26, 2:43:40]: From Eagles Landing all the way down to Jonesboro from scratch. But sometimes when you're winding a road that has that much infrastructure on it, you gotta think about all the demolition and moving of utilities you gotta do. I mean that is a [2:43:40, 2:43:41]: Uber mess. [2:43:41, 2:43:45]: Rock Quarry Road, especially out there in front of the hospital, widening all that. Mm-hmm. [2:43:46, 2:43:53]: Don't underestimate the cost of doing all that through that heavy commercialized area up to the top of the hill. We're uh [2:43:54, 2:44:13]: before you get a red oak. I mean it's that is way more costly than doing new raw land development. Way more. Oh yes. Because they have so much infrastructure out there they're gonna have to move. And what about the parking lots they got to demo and rebuild? Because I mean there's parking lots that are so close to the road. When they widen that thing [2:44:15, 2:44:18]: I mean it's yeah, it's chaotic. Uh-huh. [2:44:19, 2:44:22]: All right. Miss Barbagoy, please. [2:44:23, 2:44:33]: I wanted to um oh ask Mr. Edmondson. So um before I retreat, because I want to mic plus I want to continue the discussions. [2:44:33, 2:44:40]: I want to continue discussions regarding this project. I do not want to put it on the back burner anymore. [2:44:40, 2:44:41]: For me? [2:44:41, 2:44:44]: Just for me. I don't know what they're gonna do. [2:44:44, 2:44:49]: This is a priority for me. Um so can you during the retreat um [2:44:50, 2:44:51]: Just [2:44:51, 2:45:01]: Provide us with some options of how we can move forward with funding this, whether it's bloss, that kind of thing. So just give us a general idea of [2:45:02, 2:45:22]: you know, how we can fund it and what the costs will be. He can Mr. Adam can share that, I guess. Right. Yeah, I could just I could just say from just looking at it, this is definitely a regional project. Uh we it's gotta be all hands on deck. This type of project affects everybody around us. Um so [2:45:22, 2:45:42]: So that would be the first approach, I would say, just looking at it and just seeing who will be on board and how that this project can, you know, enhance their traffic. Everybody's dealing with traffic, everybody's dealing with some type of issue. I think us taking a deeper dive in it and and pitching it in a way to [2:45:42, 2:45:50]: To get more people on board is the best course of action to get this type of project off the ground. This is definitely a regional project. [2:45:50, 2:46:10]: So that would be something that we can look into and get with uh neighboring cities and different things of that nature and just seeing who can come on board with us and as well as federal funding, state funding uh going forward to get this project underway. But this is a a a significant project. Yeah. Probably one of the biggest ones we probably gonna have in a [2:46:10, 2:46:25]: in a while. Um so I I I just believe that this is definitely a regional project that we should be soliciting uh partnerships with this. Yeah, definitely partnerships. If I can just add because somebody mentioned it. [2:46:25, 2:46:26]: Um [2:46:27, 2:46:30]: I wanna th start thinking in terms of what we can do. [2:46:30, 2:46:33]: Think it was you. What we can do to d uh build [2:46:33, 2:46:34]: New roads. [2:46:35, 2:46:54]: Not just maintaining what we have, we need new roads. Our population is increasing, of course. More traffic, more cars are on the roads. Um of course we have our master trail plan that we're gonna roll that we're rolling out, but I think it's still a good idea for us to start looking at ways that we can [2:46:55, 2:46:59]: Give more options, um and just [2:46:59, 2:47:19]: Enhancing and improving um some of the roads that we have. Flippin' Road, I really believe it should be four lanes. Walt Stevens Road really should be four lanes. Now I know there's that I-75 bridge both that crosses over Flippin' and Walt Stevens, but those are the kind of major projects that are [2:47:19, 2:47:23]: I really want the council to take more seriously. [2:47:24, 2:47:28]: And start looking at what we can do to fund these. [2:47:28, 2:47:31]: Major infrastructure projects. [2:47:31, 2:47:33]: That is what my focus is. [2:47:33, 2:47:34]: That is my priority. [2:47:34, 2:47:54]: Infrastructure, not just maintaining what we have. Well, the the great news is we're coming up upon a budget season, and these are some of the things that we're gonna be talking about. Um and I just and I and I just wanna be mindful as I I'm going through here, getting all the reports um with all the different projects, various projects, projects that's been going on for five. [2:47:54, 2:48:05]: five years, ten years, three months, six months. There's a lot out there. A lot out there. And I just wanna make sure that we are mindful and that we are looking at [2:48:05, 2:48:25]: comprehensive plan, the trail plans, all this thing. Make sure we're not stepping on each other and and we building out smart. And I'm tasking my my team, hey, take a look at all the projects that we got. We just gotta put a board up and just really map this stuff out. There's been a significant amount of projects that's been talked about in the last three years. [2:48:25, 2:48:30]: And I'm just afraid that if if we continue to keep adding, adding, adding [2:48:30, 2:48:34]: We we're trying to do everything. That's how that's the fastest way not to get nothing done. [2:48:35, 2:48:41]: And and we just gotta recalibrate ourselves, I believe, as we go on into this next budget cycle to truly [2:48:42, 2:48:44]: Identify what is the priority. [2:48:45, 2:49:05]: And that's gonna be a challenge I think for all of us to really roll up our sleeves and and consider. All the all these projects that we're talking about are great idea. They're fantastic. Um, but I think to to truly get these things done regarding our funding and what we're looking like, we have to be serious about what are the priorities when we're talking about [2:49:05, 2:49:13]: These things, and sometimes it's the low-hanging fruit. What can we do now in the next six months to a year? Which is a multiple. [2:49:14, 2:49:31]: multiple different projects that we've been talking about or and and or walking to bubblegum and maybe one of those instances where the larger projects we're working on them, building it out for the next couple of years. But we definitely need to be intentional when we're talking about these projects and the likelihood of them getting accomplished. [2:49:32, 2:49:33]: So there's a lot. [2:49:33, 2:49:46]: Um, so I just wanna kinda put that out there because once again, budget season is upon us and these are some of the discussions that we are gonna be talking about in in the retreat and and trying to get after a lot of this stuff that we're talking about. [2:49:47, 2:49:48]: So this actually [2:49:50, 2:50:09]: Okay, this is actually part of the discussion. So I guess my point is I don't know if we wanna continue this discussion during the retreat or whether or not we wanna talk about some particular guidance in reference to traffic studies, which concept north, south, whatever the case may be, or how you wanna desire the council right now, what which desire or even if you city managers, what direction do you think we need to go here? [2:50:09, 2:50:15]: Well, I mean this is already uh underway. We at the thirty percent. The next meeting I believe is the sixty percent. [2:50:15, 2:50:22]: Uh for this is this the same one? No. Say different projects. [2:50:23, 2:50:43]: More to follow. Y'all can continue discussion. Well, right now, excuse me if I could, all we have are two million dollars for a forty million, fifty million dollar project. So what we gotta do is we keep like you said, we gotta stay focused. The deal is there's a vote that was taking place [2:50:43, 2:51:03]: on what the priorities are. Until there's another vote, those are the priorities. Those are the marching orders. Certainly we'll have certainly we'll have different discussions uh as we go about it in the fall to be able to refine what we're doing. But in talk about what if talk about tearing up the plan and starting all over again [2:51:03, 2:51:23]: And all that does is just slow down the progress. I think we voted that the that the youth and the recreation center was going to be number one project, and that that's what we're going to do. Certainly that's a long-term project in itself. But you know, when you spend money somewhere else, you may be taking it from the recreation center. But certainly we [2:51:23, 2:51:43]: We know Rock Cory Road is moving forward, is fully funded. There is a T splotch list with transportation projects already on it that the voters told us that they wanted. They've already voted for them already, not us. The voters voted for these projects to move forward in priority one, priority two. [2:51:43, 2:51:50]: We put it out there, they said this is what we wanted and we're fulfilling them in that order. And as you said [2:51:51, 2:51:52]: Regional wise [2:51:52, 2:52:12]: We can't afford to do these projects in a silo. If the county's not on board with it, it's dead because or the state, it's dead because we need their help. We're talking about$50 million. There's no way we'd have been able to do the Western Parallel Connector by ourselves. Again, that was GDOT, that's federal. [2:52:12, 2:52:31]: the state and there's a county, private too, in order to get involved for a fifty million dollar project. That is a long term project and certainly we can lay the groundwork for it, but will we see it? Would this will be a tree that we plant that we don't get to enjoy the shade from, probably. [2:52:32, 2:52:47]: But as we look forward to and I always like to call it back to what the vote is, there's a vote by this council on what were the priority until there's another vote to change that, those will remain the priorities until there's a subsequent vote in order to change it. [2:52:48, 2:52:57]: Miss Barber, go ahead please. Okay, so I wanna remind everyone. Um when the council voted on the priorities um in our retreat of March of this year. [2:52:58, 2:53:03]: Um we voted on it based on what we knew our revenues were. [2:53:05, 2:53:14]: It wasn't so when I voted to approve and let me be clear, the Youth and Senior Center is a priority. [2:53:14, 2:53:19]: It will remain a priority for me, but everything else I got question marks across all of them. [2:53:20, 2:53:22]: We learned after our retreat that [2:53:22, 2:53:33]: after we voted on the priorities that thirty-two point nine million dollars was mismanaged. So our financial situation has changed. [2:53:33, 2:53:36]: So should those priorities that we voted on [2:53:37, 2:53:44]: prior to us knowing what our financial status was. It would be irresponsible of me. [2:53:45, 2:53:49]: To say that the priorities that we made in February or March. [2:53:50, 2:53:51]: It's still the same. [2:53:52, 2:53:56]: It that would be very irresponsible. All I'm asking. [2:53:56, 2:54:13]: Let's at the retreat, let's continue the discussions on what all of the projects that staff knows of, that staff has been working on, or what have been approved in 2010, tw 2008. [2:54:14, 2:54:20]: 2012 when Councilman Alexander came on the council, all those projects. [2:54:20, 2:54:23]: That they've been talking about prior to me. [2:54:24, 2:54:25]: Proud of Mr. Berry. [2:54:26, 2:54:31]: Let's discuss all those at the retreat so that we can have a good idea. [2:54:31, 2:54:44]: Of where we are and the directive that we can give to you, Mr. Edmondson. Right now it's a whole lot of wish lists from staff, whole lot of wish lists from every member of this council. [2:54:45, 2:54:49]: I think we owe it to you to make sure that the path forward is clear. [2:54:49, 2:54:50]: For you. [2:54:51, 2:55:00]: So I don't care how many times you hear a particular council member keeps talking about the priorities that was approved earlier this year. [2:55:01, 2:55:06]: That was before this council was made aware of thirty-two point nine million dollars that was mismanaged. [2:55:06, 2:55:08]: That changes everything. [2:55:08, 2:55:12]: So please, sir, let's continue the discussions during the retreat. [2:55:13, 2:55:17]: Of course, I I got high hopes with this rock query road extension. [2:55:17, 2:55:18]: But even I know. [2:55:19, 2:55:21]: We've got to take a look at everything. [2:55:21, 2:55:22]: That's all. Thank you, Mayor. [2:55:22, 2:55:42]: Uh you're welcome. So otherwise, uh Mr. Edmondson we talked about earlier about getting with the staff and getting all the projects to kinda lay things out, get an understanding of that. And obviously we'll have our uh our budget retreat in uh next month, some uh middle late next month I think it's now so we'll have that discussion. So obviously this particular project along with everything else will probably be discussed during there. [2:55:42, 2:55:46]: Through that time frame. Right. Absolutely. Um and I mean [2:55:48, 2:55:54]: And I and I think for me the wha was w w what I'm seeing is it's a whole lot of things have started. [2:55:54, 2:56:07]: We spent money on studies and surveys and stuff and it's things just don't go nowhere. Um and I think that's what I'm trying to avoid. That's what I'm trying to pause. Stop roll our sleeves up because [2:56:08, 2:56:10]: Yesterday's prices ain't today's prices. [2:56:11, 2:56:12]: And it is different. [2:56:12, 2:56:15]: And I want us not to to to be unclear about that. [2:56:16, 2:56:32]: Um, so I am challenging the staff. Hey, look, let's pause. Let's see what we working on, what's been approved by vote and what has not been approved by vote. And and re just recalibrating everybody and refocusing because that money issue is something of concern. [2:56:33, 2:56:53]: Um what you was tracking in March is different from what we're tracking today. All right. Um and more to follow on that. So Adam, thanks a lot for the presentation. Thank you for your continued service to the to our to our city. Okay. Anytime guys. We're gonna move on. Okay, so upcoming meetings and announcements, council meetings will be held in [2:56:53, 2:57:13]: The city council chamber. Meeting dates, locations, and times are subject to change, or to contact city hall offices 770-389-7900 or visit the website with www.stockbridgega.org for updates. Join us for the meeting and greet of our new city manager, Sean Emmonson, Thursday, September 4th. [2:57:12, 2:57:32]: Right here in the City Hall Council Chambers from 6 to 8 p.m. Citizens Police Advisory Council meetings are held on the first Thursday of each month in Stockbridge PD Community Room, 6:30 p.m. September 4th. Main Street Advisory Board Meeting will be held on the second Friday of each month in the Downtown Connection Center, 1.30. [2:57:32, 2:57:52]: ML King Senior Heritage Trail, 9 a.m. on August, excuse me, August 8th, that's past due. Council, City Council meeting, second Monday of each month, 6 p.m. City Council Chamber, September 8th. Youth Council meetings, second Monday of each month, 6:30 p.m. City Hall, Levi Meeting. [2:57:52, 2:58:12]: Meeting room September 8th. Citywide Development Authority meeting second Tuesday of each month at 6 p.m. City Hall and leave our meeting room at September 9th. 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Wednesday 24th, September 24th to Friday, September 26th, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Merrill Manor's Conference Center, 111 Davis Road. City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month, September 30th to 6 p.m. in the City Hall Council Chambers. Upcoming city initiatives and events. Join us for course for Bridge. [2:59:12, 2:59:32]: Fest. It'll be our last free concert of the year on Saturday, September 27th, and at the Amphitheater. Free uh it's free, of course, fun activities for kids, vendors, food trucks, an amazing concert. And Jack Quis and Kiki Wyatt are the headliners for that night on the 27th, Saturday, 27th of September. Join the Main Street. [2:59:32, 2:59:52]: For the Tiny Tent Concert Series Fridays from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. on Stockbridge Connection Center, 1:30 ML King Senior Heritage Trail. Of course, bring you on lawn chairs and we'll do this provided the weather permitting. It doesn't rain or storm on us, right? Join Councilman Thomas and Berry for partnership with monthly bingo back. [2:59:52, 3:00:12]: Bash on Wednesday, September 17th, 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Merrill Manor's Conference Center. Lots of fun to be had by all. Join Mayor Anthony Ford for the monthly Meet the Mayor on Monday, September 22nd from 10 a.m. to noon. Of course, uh in City Hall, the meetings will be by appointment. The Economic Development Department will host [3:00:12, 3:00:26]: the free business health clinic on the second Tuesday of each month at 9 a.m. to 12 noon in the Stockbridge Connection Center 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail. Check the health of your business with a free with this free clinic. [3:00:27, 3:00:47]: Sign up for real-time alerts and about severe weather, road closures, and emergencies on Regroup app. Visit the city's website or social media pages for more information on how and where to sign up and stay safe. Please contact Ros and Rawls to schedule an appointment with meet the mayor and for more information on co uh council me council initiatives. [3:00:47, 3:00:54]: six seven eight eight three three three three four four four four four eight or by way of email r Raws at stoppersg dot or g [3:00:55, 3:01:01]: And uh twenty twenty five concert season, Friday, September sixth. Saturday Saturday. That's the time. [3:01:01, 3:01:20]: Saturday, September 6th and Sunday Sunday, September 7th would be the Southern Seoul weekend featuring King George, Tucker, Westlaw, Pokey Bear, TK Soul, you know, and having a great time. So that's Saturday and Sunday, 6th and 7th September. [3:01:21, 3:01:41]: Okay. Saturday, September thirteenth, for lovers and friends, featuring Tank and special guest Leaf Jennings and Jenny Wine. It's in concert on that day. Saturday, October eighteenth, will be the last concert for us during our season, 2025 season. That's the Detroit Gospel Legends featuring Fred Hampton, Donna McClerk, and Anthony Brown, Vanessa. [3:01:41, 3:01:55]: And this Saturday, this Saturday, August 30th, the 40th year anniversary of Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis being in the in the industry. [3:01:56, 3:02:16]: And so you have several different folks that are scheduled to appear, and maybe some folks that are not scheduled, that there are not unlisted that may pop up, but Ruben Stutter, uh Yanolanda Adams, Sherell, Shantae Moore, Deborah Cox, um, Jordan Knight, Morris Day, and Jerome Benton, MC Light, and Ann Nesby. If I [3:02:16, 3:02:36]: Got that right. Supposed to appear. Who else may show up? We'll find out. Cicerity. Okay. And uh ple this weekend, of course, Labor weekend's coming up, so have a safe and uh weekend in a sense, uh be safe. And I hear that COVID nineteen is on an uprise. So if that is truly the case, then uh folks uh [3:02:36, 3:02:56]: Take care of your health, get a boost a shot, make sure you keep yourself protected and stay healthy. And let's see here. I will say to you that uh just a couple just yesterday, matter of fact, myself and Mr. Alexander, along with our our um city manager and a couple other staff individuals, right? Our PIO and our course. [3:02:55, 3:03:04]: So, our assistant to mayoral council. And we're at the Eagles Landing Country Club to present, be part of a presentation to Chris Tucker Foundation. [3:03:05, 3:03:25]: Pro actual proclamation. Honoring him for all his good work he's doing in the community. And uh we did that uh yesterday. And uh looking forward to uh Mr. Tucker and his foundation to continue to partner with the city of Stockbridge and with Eagles Land Country Club for his annual event. And we wish him well and look forward to uh future and [3:03:24, 3:03:44]: events with him as well. So and uh so uh ladies counsel I don't have any uh executive session items so I'll ask for yes ma'am? There are two more announcements. I'm sorry, excuse me. My line dancing classes aren't listed on here. Okay I'm sorry, go ahead. Um those line dancing classes are back to back Wednesdays on September tenth and [3:03:44, 3:04:04]: 17th at 6 o'clock P.M. at the Merrill Mendices from 6 to 8. It's a great time. And also, um, the DDA is sponsoring um we were gonna try to do a Southern Soul festival in conjunction with the Southern Soul concert series. But the DDA has agreed to sponsor a Southern Soul. [3:04:04, 3:04:22]: kickback fest night. And that's gonna be on September 5th on Main Street. In addition to that, we will have some outdoor vendors, a lot of uh just to enjoy the festivities that line up with the concert series for the 6th and 7th. [3:04:23, 3:04:38]: All right, thank you. On that note, uh council any motion to end our meeting please. From okay from Miss Barber to Miss Alzheimer's favorite, please indicate. Okay. Congratulations, God bless you, good night. We're we're gone for now. [3:04:39, 3:04:39]: Yeah. [3:04:40, 3:04:40]: Yeah.
  • 2025-08-18 · City Council · Transcript · Millage Rate Public Hearing

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    --- title: Millage Rate Public Hearing date: 2025-08-18 source: 2025-08-18_Millage_Rate_Public_Hearing.wav --- [0:03:47, 0:03:50]: Appreciate it. [0:03:51, 0:04:00]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have ten o'clock and I'd like to get our public hearing meeting involving our millage rate. This is our third public hearing that we have. [0:04:01, 0:04:03]: And so I have now actually ten o'clock. [0:04:05, 0:04:12]: And the invocation this evening, if you don't mind, Miss Judy Neal, come please give us an invocation. Come to my please stand, ladies and gentlemen. [0:04:17, 0:04:37]: Please bow your heads. Dear Heavenly Father, as we come together as a community today in this council chamber, we ask that you be closely with us, embracing each member of this council, that they remember that their job is so important to our community. [0:04:37, 0:04:53]: And we ask that you would bless them and guide them and direct them in every decision that they make, that it will be on the better side of goodness for our community. And we thank you for each of them for serving. Amen. [0:04:53, 0:05:07]: Amen. Pledge allegiance here. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for what it stands, one nation, one God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. [0:05:08, 0:05:10]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:05:12, 0:05:13]: Morning. [0:05:14, 0:05:34]: Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Present. Council Member Thomas. At the record reflect, Councilmember Thomas is not in attendance. Councilmember Berry. At the record reflect, Councilmember Berry is not in attendance. Councilmember Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:05:33, 0:05:50]: So move. Okay. Mr. Alexander second. Second. Ms. Barber second in all favor, please indicate. She now's decision on that. And ladies and gentlemen, we have our third public hearing involving the 2025 millage rate. It's going to be presented by our treasurer, Mr. Frank Mulazi. Sir, please. [0:05:54, 0:06:09]: Good morning, Mayor and Council. Morning to you. Uh today is our third public hearing for our marriage rate, and at the end of the presentation, uh the governing body will be requested to adopt the marriage rate. [0:06:14, 0:06:34]: Tax rate is an amount of tax billed based on the fair market value of property using the marriage rate. And marriage rate is set annually by the governing body or the school board. A tax rate of one mil represents a tax liability of [0:06:34, 0:06:40]: of one dollar pay one thousand of assessed value. [0:06:45, 0:07:05]: Rawback rate. The rowback rate is the marriage rate that would raise the same amount of revenues as last year if applied to the current value of property tax that was last year's tax raw. Unfortunately, this is not the case in most cases because the [0:07:05, 0:07:07]: There are several factors and two of them [0:07:08, 0:07:09]: would be additional [0:07:11, 0:07:25]: properties that have come since last tax time and the biggest component of that is the increase of the property values [0:07:26, 0:07:32]: And most of the times you may not know that your value your home has gone up, the value has gone up. [0:07:33, 0:07:53]: Unless that value, that property is sold, you find out that what you would have sold last year is much, much less than what you would sell this year. So those factors are some of the factors that will make the taxes go up, not literally the [0:07:53, 0:07:55]: Mirage rate going up. [0:07:57, 0:07:59]: Mira great proposal. [0:08:01, 0:08:21]: The twenty twenty five tax digest grew from one ninety one point nine four billion dollars last year, which is twenty twenty four, to current in twenty twenty five of two point one billion or an increase of five point six percent. [0:08:21, 0:08:32]: Some of the reasons are the ones that he have just mentioned that it could be increase of properties in the city or the values of those properties have gone up. [0:08:34, 0:08:51]: With recommended marriage rate staying the same of three point seven seven that was instituted from twenty twenty three, twenty four, twenty five, this technically will be termed as the tax increase of one point eight three percent. [0:08:52, 0:08:57]: the city is required to have three public hearings. [0:08:57, 0:09:05]: And here we are on the third public hearing where the marriage rate will be adopted. [0:09:06, 0:09:19]: We also have to remember that the governing board provided to the residents the homestead exemption, that's a relief of taxes, to every homeowner of the city. [0:09:26, 0:09:33]: With the marriage rate proposal of twenty twenty five, which is three point seven seven. [0:09:34, 0:09:37]: They said it will be able to provide the same [0:09:38, 0:09:39]: Or more services [0:09:41, 0:09:42]: As it did last year. [0:09:43, 0:09:46]: That will be public safety services. [0:09:46, 0:09:47]: Under P D? [0:09:48, 0:09:50]: Public works department services. [0:09:51, 0:09:58]: And various roads projects that's citywide, improvement, construction and maintenance. [0:10:00, 0:10:05]: economic development projects to make our city more attractive for new [0:10:05, 0:10:08]: or potential business owners. [0:10:13, 0:10:28]: What will this mean to homeowners, especially those ones that may have a home of a hundred thousand? Tax rate comparison with those that will have [0:10:30, 0:10:46]: Homestead exemptions and those that did not take advantage of the homestead exemption that was provided. So for a homeowner of a hundred thousand, as we said that taxes are calculated on fair market value. [0:10:47, 0:10:48]: Which is forty percent. [0:10:49, 0:11:09]: 40% of 100,000 will come on to 40,000. That will be the assessed value. And without any local exemption, basic exemption, nothing will be removed there. So we still have taxable value of 40,000. That taxable [0:11:08, 0:11:19]: uh value of 40,000 times marriage rate of 3.77, that means the the homeowner will pay 150 per year. [0:11:20, 0:11:35]: And on the other side, on the right hand side, the same amount of hundred thousand, market value of forty, assessed value forty thousand, and with basic local exemption of ten thousand. [0:11:35, 0:11:55]: Take note of there were three exemptions that were provided to homeowners. Every homeowner of the city of Stockbridge. One was just you to be a homeowner, you deserved a break of ten thousand. And if you have septic tanks, [0:11:55, 0:12:15]: On your property, you again have a leaf of 15,000. If you are a citizen of 65 years and above, you are given a leaf of uh 15,000. However, if you have 15,000. [0:12:15, 0:12:17]: than of age. [0:12:17, 0:12:19]: sixty five and above. [0:12:19, 0:12:21]: And you also have uh [0:12:21, 0:12:23]: Septic tank on your property. [0:12:24, 0:12:27]: you can only get one fifteen thousand because the total [0:12:28, 0:12:29]: Exemptions [0:12:30, 0:12:50]: Are 25,000. Basics for everyone. And then 15,000 either from age or from septic tank, 25. So in this case, we are applying the basic of 10,000, meaning that it's only being a homeowner. You are not 65 and you don't have a septic tank. [0:12:50, 0:13:10]: On your property. That will reduce 40,000 to 30,000. And the taxable value will be that 30,000 times 3.77, we get$113.10. Meaning that you are saving if you had homestead. [0:13:09, 0:13:15]: exemption, you are saving thirty seven dollars and seventy cents per year. [0:13:17, 0:13:35]: Another example we have given is the same hundred thousand, but you have both. The left hand side it will still be the same hundred and fifty dollars and eighty cents per year. But on the right hand side [0:13:35, 0:13:37]: You have the basic of ten thousand. [0:13:37, 0:13:57]: Then you have also either you are 65 and above, or you have a septic tank that brings in 15,000 plus 10, it comes up to 25. 25,000 from 40,000, which is the assessed value, will remain with 15,000. [0:13:57, 0:14:13]: meaning that you pay taxes only on the remaining fifteen thousand. fifteen thousand times the marriage rate of three point seven seven, you will pay taxes of fifty six dollars and fifty five cents. [0:14:16, 0:14:22]: And there you are saving ninety four dollars and twenty five cents to those who did not. [0:14:22, 0:14:29]: uh apply for homestead exemption and those who applied homestead exemptions with both [0:14:29, 0:14:37]: uh with all or both are t are taking in the basic ten and fifteen of twenty five thousand. [0:14:41, 0:14:48]: Then we have the last one, an example of say you have a home of three hundred thousand. [0:14:49, 0:14:57]: Three hundred thousand still uh uh everything is applied, the fair market value of forty percent. [0:14:57, 0:15:01]: Forty percent of three hundred thousand is hundred and twenty. [0:15:02, 0:15:04]: That will be our taxable value. [0:15:04, 0:15:09]: That taxable value times marriage rate of three point seven seven. [0:15:09, 0:15:12]: You pay taxes of four hundred and fifty two. [0:15:13, 0:15:14]: Forty. [0:15:14, 0:15:16]: P I E. [0:15:16, 0:15:17]: And on the [0:15:17, 0:15:19]: Right hand side [0:15:19, 0:15:21]: If you had the basic [0:15:21, 0:15:23]: You pay instead [0:15:23, 0:15:31]: Of four hundred and fifty two forty, you pay four hundred and fourteen dollars and seventy cents. [0:15:32, 0:15:44]: Now let's say on the same three hundred that you have both exemptions of basic ten and fifteen twenty. [0:15:44, 0:16:04]: So on the right the left hand side you still have the same of four hundred and fifty-two dollars and forty cents. And on the right hand side, you have three hundred thousand times forty to get the assessed value of 120,000 because you have both ten thousand. [0:16:04, 0:16:15]: And 15,000, you will remove 25,000 there. That means your taxable amount will only be 95,000. [0:16:15, 0:16:19]: ninety five thousand times the three point seven seven. [0:16:19, 0:16:37]: meaning that you are going to pay taxes of three hundred and fifty eight and fifteen cents instead of four hundred and fifty two forty cents without homestead exemption. There again you save ninety four dollars and twenty five cents in a year. [0:16:41, 0:16:44]: The next one will be the tax digest. [0:16:45, 0:16:51]: Tax digest, that's where you have all the calculations, the makeup of our taxes. [0:16:52, 0:16:53]: They will be from Rio. [0:16:56, 0:17:02]: property and you may have motor vehicles, you may have mobile homes. [0:17:03, 0:17:07]: All those ones they bring us to have gross [0:17:08, 0:17:09]: Um [0:17:10, 0:17:11]: Taxable. [0:17:11, 0:17:13]: Gross digest. [0:17:14, 0:17:34]: Then from gross digest you have to remove in this case our gross digest now that's the one if you see on the far right hand side you see the gross is two point one and if you go to the second from right you find out that there is thirty one point [0:17:33, 0:17:53]: Which was of last year. So that growth we have mentioned about 5.6 is coming from there. 2024 is lower than 2025. If you see in the column of 2024 on the uh gross digest. [0:17:53, 0:17:56]: then it will remove [0:17:57, 0:18:02]: exemptions and in this case we'll have uh uh [0:18:03, 0:18:14]: Last year you see last year we had about forty-four thousand uh on column twenty-four, uh less forty-four thousand. But this year [0:18:15, 0:18:22]: In the column of twenty-five, you see that the we are having hundred and nineteen thousand. [0:18:23, 0:18:24]: Less. [0:18:25, 0:18:34]: That hundred and nineteen thousand represents the homestead exemption for those who took advantage of that. [0:18:34, 0:18:43]: And for those that have not taken advantage they are encouraged when that comes again, which will be january twenty twenty six. [0:18:44, 0:19:01]: through April twenty twenty six, please do apply so you can take advantage of that, even though it's a reduction of tax revenues, but this is what our governing body already extended to you to have a relief of taxes. [0:19:02, 0:19:16]: And if you go down you find out that um our marriage rate have remained the same since we started in twenty twenty three. If you see in the quorum of twenty twenty three is three point seven seven. [0:19:16, 0:19:21]: You get in the column of twenty four, it's still three point seven seven. [0:19:21, 0:19:24]: And the this year again twenty twenty five. [0:19:24, 0:19:29]: It's still the same, even though things have gone up, the cost has gone up. [0:19:29, 0:19:31]: The services we mentioned [0:19:32, 0:19:35]: The services we got last year will not be [0:19:35, 0:19:51]: the same in this year we will have to pay up more. But the marriage rate still remained the same because the council decided to give you a relief as citizens of Stockbridge. [0:19:54, 0:19:58]: And uh you find out that with all that [0:19:59, 0:20:19]: The only increase, the increase that would be there is 131,000. And 131,000, if you divide by number of housing that we have, is almost less than seven dollars a year. And when you go into uh home [0:20:19, 0:20:35]: State exemption, you have seen that you are saving$94, the other side you are saving about$37. That is so many, many times of what increase you may have if there was a rollback. [0:20:36, 0:20:40]: And the the total increase is that one at the bottom of uh [0:20:41, 0:20:42]: Other page. [0:20:42, 0:20:45]: You see that in twenty twenty three [0:20:45, 0:20:47]: There was hundred percent increase [0:20:47, 0:20:51]: The hundred percent increase comes because that was the [0:20:52, 0:20:53]: Initial [0:20:53, 0:21:06]: of leaving taxes in the history of City of Stockbridge. And last year, 2024, there was that four point four increase. You will see that the increase is literally going down. [0:21:07, 0:21:13]: From last year four point four to this year one point eight three percent. [0:21:13, 0:21:14]: With that [0:21:15, 0:21:18]: I will entertain questions and comments. [0:21:18, 0:21:21]: The city manager may have something to say. [0:21:22, 0:21:30]: City manager is okay. I put it to the governing board if you have any comment or questions. Council, any questions for Mr. Lazi? [0:21:32, 0:21:33]: Oh, go ahead, please. [0:21:34, 0:21:37]: Thank you, Mr. Malazzi, for your presentation. Um [0:21:39, 0:21:40]: So [0:21:40, 0:21:50]: If a homeowner qualifies for all three exemptions, I know right now the exemption is capped at twenty-five thousand dollars. [0:21:51, 0:21:51]: Uh [0:21:53, 0:21:53]: What? [0:21:54, 0:21:56]: Can we do locally here? [0:21:57, 0:22:00]: To ensure that they can benefit [0:22:00, 0:22:01]: From all three. [0:22:02, 0:22:04]: The whole point of me bringing forth the [0:22:05, 0:22:14]: um the idea for the septic systems is mainly for those homeowners in my district. And I know a lot of them um [0:22:15, 0:22:17]: are seniors. [0:22:17, 0:22:20]: So they actually qualify for all three. [0:22:21, 0:22:23]: But they're kept at twenty five thousand. [0:22:25, 0:22:36]: Can something be done here for us to ensure that they're able to benefit from all three and raise that maximum amount to thirty thousand or thirty-five thousand? [0:22:37, 0:22:41]: They can, they cannot, because [0:22:41, 0:22:47]: The aim of introducing hi this homestead exemption, you tried as much as possible [0:22:47, 0:22:51]: to make sure that we don't duplicate the Ali Leaf. [0:22:51, 0:22:52]: with the county. [0:22:52, 0:22:59]: So we made sure that the services we are providing here they are not the same services that the county is providing. [0:23:00, 0:23:01]: And the [0:23:01, 0:23:02]: You made it [0:23:03, 0:23:23]: ten thousand for everyone. That's everyone. Then from there you saw it fit to give relief to elderly people that are sixty five and a half. So regardless of regardless of that, as long as you reach that, you are guaranteed of if additional [0:23:23, 0:23:31]: or fifteen thousand. If you are 69, 62, it's just a matter of time, you will. [0:23:31, 0:23:51]: However, there may be some that have not, that's the way that we need to do, that have not applied. They are sixty-five and above, but they don't know or they didn't apply. And that's what we will be doing is starting from October to make sure that everyone uh is aware of this because now we are having a lot of four. [0:23:51, 0:24:06]: phone calls. I didn't know. I didn't know. But we'll make sure that this time is specifically for stock bridge because we have a lot of some that are in incorporated area. Some they are using the same zip code of two [0:24:06, 0:24:07]: Uh two eighty one. [0:24:08, 0:24:28]: z uh Stockbridge, but they are not residents of this. So we'll try as much as possible. We have already set up meeting with the our uh information officer that will be what we will be doing uh our communication uh department that will what we intend to do come October. [0:24:28, 0:24:33]: So we'll try as much. That's on the edge side. On septic tank is limited. [0:24:33, 0:24:36]: You have it or you don't have it, unless you change. [0:24:37, 0:24:57]: But those who be be benefiting from there are those that have got septic tanks. So you have regardless of that, everyone will benefit, as I said, the basic of ten thousand. Then someone has to wait, he or she if they are not yet sixty-five. Then you have to have a septic tank. [0:24:57, 0:25:08]: Bank that the county does not have. You have a lot of uh from incorporated areas, they would love to have that, but they are not paying taxes from the city of Stockbridge. [0:25:08, 0:25:10]: I get it. Um [0:25:11, 0:25:17]: So I'm talking about in the future. I'm talking about for this year. Okay, okay. In the future. [0:25:17, 0:25:20]: Um I would like to see [0:25:20, 0:25:21]: Homeowners [0:25:21, 0:25:23]: who actually qualify. [0:25:23, 0:25:25]: For all three exemptions, [0:25:26, 0:25:27]: What do we need to do? [0:25:27, 0:25:29]: Um if we wanted to [0:25:30, 0:25:32]: increase that [0:25:32, 0:25:32]: Um [0:25:33, 0:25:53]: Maximum amount for the exemptions. Are we able to do that locally or is that something that's set by the state? It has to go to the state. [0:25:53, 0:25:55]: pass. But I'll I'll I'll concert on that. [0:25:56, 0:26:13]: Thank you, sir. Um it is my intent to ensure that all three exemptions are actually available for homeowners who qualify. I want them to be able to take advantage of the maximum amount of the tax exemptions and if [0:26:13, 0:26:15]: All three? [0:26:15, 0:26:23]: Um so for the general homestead exemption, that's automatic ten thousand dollars, correct? Okay. Okay. Correct. [0:26:23, 0:26:24]: Yeah, correct. [0:26:25, 0:26:29]: For sixty five years and older. It's fifteen. That's fifteen. Yeah. [0:26:29, 0:26:31]: And what is the amount for septic? [0:26:31, 0:26:33]: Fifteen, but you can't have both. [0:26:34, 0:26:35]: Okay. [0:26:35, 0:26:39]: В'ямид амин'я бойство леген. [0:26:39, 0:26:43]: That's what we we said it. Correct. Yes. All right. [0:26:43, 0:26:44]: So [0:26:45, 0:26:46]: Next year or [0:26:46, 0:26:51]: Later this year, okay we're at our retreat. I'd like to have a discussion. [0:26:51, 0:26:52]: So the head. [0:26:53, 0:26:58]: Homeowners can take advantage of all three of these. [0:26:58, 0:27:04]: exemptions if they qualify. This would not apply this year or next year. [0:27:04, 0:27:15]: So what you mean is it will be ten thousand will remain. Someone if he's sixty five can get fifteen, if he's has got septic tank and got fifteen, so it will be forty. Correct. [0:27:17, 0:27:36]: Yep, that would be the amount. Okay. The maximum amount, not the thirty that we have currently. I will consult how it is, but the decision will still come from you. Yeah. The city manager is to speak something. I wanted to consult with you um regarding who actually sets that maximum amount. [0:27:37, 0:27:45]: So I want to be able to allow residents who actually qualify for all three to be able to benefit. [0:27:45, 0:27:50]: From all three. So we need to increase that maximum amount. [0:27:50, 0:27:54]: by the council adopting a resolution, then I'm all for it. [0:27:54, 0:28:06]: Yes. That's all. Thank you. The the answer is yes. Council can set whatever exemptions that you will allow. Uh but I also wanted to uh include that the county also offer [0:28:06, 0:28:26]: Homesteads exemptions. That's for disability, a whole bunch of different other things that uh veteran benefits, a whole whole bunch of different exemptions that they may or may not qualify for. So we also encourage them to take a look at that as well so they can get city exemptions as well as county exemptions to kind of offset that cost as well. So I just wanted to include that. [0:28:26, 0:28:32]: Um as well. But the answer is yes, the council can decide what are exemptions they would want to allow. [0:28:34, 0:28:35]: Thank you. [0:28:36, 0:28:37]: You know the question of Ms. Mulazo. [0:28:39, 0:28:59]: No, but you certainly would have to parse that to see whether or not um because most of our customers are Henry County Water Authority customers and it would be like they already have that exemption with the county if they're um if they're not water author, if they're not [0:28:58, 0:29:15]: not being serviced by the city. So it would have to be parsed down to whether or not we in this general area right here were serving them the water because if we gave them exemption on the Henry County water, it would be like they would be getting double exemptions. Yeah. [0:29:17, 0:29:27]: All right, for no other comments from the council, wanna make note that uh Michael Harris, uh tax commissioner, is present. Sir, would you wanna uh want to come to the mic and address anything or [0:29:27, 0:29:32]: Any comments for us before we uh get into the public hearing with our citizens? [0:29:33, 0:29:53]: Morning Mayor, good morning, Council. Morning. Um again, just wanna thank the Mayor, the Council, staff, Ms. Malazi, uh Mr. Edmondson and the entire staff here, Miss Um Holiday, for all your support during this year's uh digest cycle. It's been a challenging time. We've had a number of issues that have arisen based on the new legislation. Things we're still trying to [0:29:53, 0:30:13]: work ourselves through as as as we go on. But um your flexibility um throughout this process has been has been certainly been appreciated and just want to thank again you on the staff for getting us to this point. Um I was at a hearing this morning in Locust Grove they have their adoption later on this evening, school board later today and the board [0:30:13, 0:30:23]: board of commissioners will be tomorrow. So process is moving forward. Um again, just appreciative for everyone's uh diligence and and and and timeliness and getting things back over to us. [0:30:24, 0:30:44]: Council, any questions? Thank you for being here, sir, by the way. Council, any questions for Mr. Harris? Excuse me. I'd just like to say, Mr. Harris, we passed our flossed or resolution at the last meeting at nine o'clock. So we're certainly looking forward to that and making sure that we are able to [0:30:44, 0:31:02]: provide that additional tax release. So certainly would like to thank you uh for that. And then you never know who's tuning in uh from the previous meeting. So if you would kinda uh give us a little update on um as you did at the previous meetings about uh floss, that would be great. [0:31:02, 0:31:22]: Yeah, just briefly, I mean, this is really relegated between I know there's negotiations going on between the municipalities and the county as we speak. Um, so the floss provision was a part of the legislation that was passed last year in House Bill five eighty one. It allowed for if if everyone the county and our respective cities decide to opt in [0:31:22, 0:31:42]: to the uh legislation which created this additional floating homestead exemption, then they also became eligible to move forward with a floss, which is very similar to what we have in place right now, with a sploss where um the cities and the county can collect up to [0:31:42, 0:32:02]: One cent additional cent specifically to be used for the reduction of the millage rates. It can be done in half cent increments, either 0.5 cents or one cent increments. Because all the cities opted in and the county opted in, that makes everyone eligible. The school boards opting out. [0:32:02, 0:32:22]: has no bearing in this case. Um so even though they did opt out, they have no bearing. Again, the collections would be relegated to the county and the cities. Um how the counties and the cities opt to and make those determinations on how they're to be distributed. I mean that's my understanding those negotiations are forth are ongoing as we speak. Um [0:32:22, 0:32:42]: But the law is very specific and clear in that it mandates that all revenues collected must be used for the reduction of that millage rate. Much in the same way a SPLOSS that we have in place right now, all collections from SPLOS have to be utilized on those designated SPLOS projects. [0:32:42, 0:33:02]: Um again they make very specific um um calculations on this as well. One thing to note is that it would be in uh in arrears. I mean, so it would be collections if it were it would have to go to the to the voters for as a referendum for a vote. If it's voted on, collections would begin in twenty-six to be applied in twenty four. [0:33:02, 0:33:21]: twenty seven. So there is still some timing that needs to um be worked out. But um it will certainly be a a strong tool to be utilized for for everyone in the for the reduction of of of uh the millage rate. As a county resident, I would certainly like to see this happen and move forward, so as I'm sure everyone would. [0:33:23, 0:33:23]: Certainly. [0:33:24, 0:33:26]: Any other questions, Council for our tax commissioner? [0:33:28, 0:33:30]: Okay, if not, thank you sir for being here. Appreciate it. [0:33:30, 0:33:44]: Now open up for public hearing. Um so here are the public hearing rules. Please mute all cell phones and other electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. [0:33:45, 0:34:05]: After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant and the representative regarding the proposed plans for property along with or any other relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. [0:34:05, 0:34:25]: Each side will be allowed ten minutes total. Additional time may be extended at the discretion of the counsel. Please keep comments and presentations professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. Please refrain from applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. [0:34:24, 0:34:44]: After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer and never to the members of the council staff or the audience. All comments will be made from the podium where you will be required to state your name and address for the record. Please note that these hearings are not a debate. [0:34:44, 0:35:04]: Failure to comply will cause you to be removed by the chamber from the chamber and the building by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire ten minutes allowed for the process. [0:35:04, 0:35:24]: Of the application. If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions andor concerns. The presiding officer will call for a motion and a second to the motion and have any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for a vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. On that note, I'm [0:35:24, 0:35:43]: open this is opened up any comments for for the the current request of 3.77 millis rate from my far left any comments in the middle any comments for my far right comments against uh the 3.77 millis rate that we're discussing on my far left any in the middle [0:35:45, 0:35:50]: No one on any money right. So it's no comments for or against either side. So I'll close the public hearing now. Note. [0:35:51, 0:36:01]: And uh council, I need a motion to uh to accept uh proposed mills rate. Yes, Ms. Kant. I move that we accept the proposed millist rate of the three point seven seven. [0:36:01, 0:36:13]: Second. Okay, from Ms. Gantt uh Mr. Alexander Onfair, please indicate. Okay, as you now decision. On that note, uh Council, I need a motion to adjourn our meeting. So moved. Okay, is there a second? [0:36:14, 0:36:18]: Sir. Okay, from uh Mr. Gantt to Mr. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. [0:36:19, 0:36:21]: Okay, God bless you and good night.
  • 2025-08-18 · City Council · Transcript · Special Called Meeting

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    --- title: Special Called Meeting date: 2025-08-18 source: 2025-08-18_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:11:47, 0:11:50]: Yes, sir? Yes. [0:11:50, 0:12:02]: Alright ladies and gentlemen, I'm gonna get started on our special call meeting. Uh this is August 18th, uh 2025, and I have 926. Okay. [0:12:03, 0:12:05]: Please stand for the invocation. [0:12:08, 0:12:28]: Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again to do this business of the citizens that we that serve, that we serve in this aspect. Allow us to make good, solid decisions in reference to the items that come before us. Give us strength to go forward and continue to do the best we can for our community. Be us always, Lord, in your name. Amen. [0:12:28, 0:12:41]: Amen. Amen. Pledge allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. To the Republic of what it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, liberty, justice for all. [0:12:42, 0:12:43]: Madam Clerk, Roll Call, please. [0:12:46, 0:12:51]: Mayor Ford? Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Present. Councilmember Thomas. [0:12:52, 0:12:55]: Councilmember Thomas is not in attendance. Council Member Berry. [0:12:56, 0:13:16]: Let the breaker reflect. Councilmember Berry is not in attendance. Councilmember Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. Present. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. So moved. Okay. Second. Okay, from Mr. Alexander. Ms. Gantt all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Announced decision there. We have new business. Council consider. [0:13:16, 0:13:31]: consideration to approve the resolution encouraging the attainability of a floss tax relief and collaboration between the Henry County and its receptive respective uh cities, presented by um Sean Evanson, our city manager, sir, please. [0:13:33, 0:13:53]: Uh good morning, uh Mayor and Council, uh community. Uh yes, to uh before you we have a resolution uh before you that we are requesting to be adopted. Uh just to give some context and some reference behind this particular document. For the last several weeks, uh the city of Stockbridge, along with the other [0:13:53, 0:14:13]: Municipalities here in Herring County have met uh with the county in reference to floss. Uh these meetings um had some substantive conversations and discussion on the best uh course of action in the distribution in the collection and distribution of floss. Uh for the people that don't know what floss is. [0:14:13, 0:14:33]: Uh FLOSS is a local option sale tax approved by voters that allows municipalities to collect a dedicated sales tax for specific purposes, usually tied to local needs such as infrastructure, public safety, or community development. Unlike general sales tax, FLOSS funds are restricted in use and cannot be spent outside voter tax. [0:14:33, 0:14:53]: Or approved categories. Um, so that that's just a little background of what floss is. So we um after these uh the last few weeks of discussion and talks about floss, uh the municipalities decide to the best way forward in the distribution, collection, and distribution of the floss tax is to use. [0:14:53, 0:15:13]: Use the model that has been used before with the counties and the municipalities, such as the loss and SPLOS. The county proposed a different method, which was referred to them by a consultant from Rochester that wanted to deviate. [0:15:13, 0:15:20]: [927.6, 947.6]: 34.22% across all entities in the county to include the minute municipalities. However, after careful consideration and looking at the different breakdowns, the municipalities decide that the best way to collect and distribute the flaws tax. [0:15:47, 0:16:02]: Tax is through the model once again that was established uh long before uh FLOS came about, which was Loss and SPLOS. So pending your questions, uh this is how the resolution came to be. [0:16:02, 0:16:15]: Uh we understand the county's position on this, um, but once again, after further discussion with other municipalities, we believe that this would better serve the city of Stockbridge uh electing this particular model. [0:16:17, 0:16:27]: Thank you, uh, Mr. Edmondson. Yeah, uh maybe I might have missed something. Just a sort of clarification. Uh upon approval, provided we approve this, this still has to go to referendum for a citizens vote in November. [0:16:28, 0:16:32]: Yes. So the goal for today is to basically uh [0:16:33, 0:16:44]: get a formal decision from the mayor and council on our stance, which is the adopting the model of loss, um, to present to the count uh [0:16:44, 0:17:04]: the board of commissioners uh so that they can make a determination whether or not they will accept or not. Um so our hopes is that the county will accept the model that the municipalities have agreed to uh elect for distribution and also collection. So [0:17:04, 0:17:12]: It is our hopes that the county sees that, you know, we all in agreement and this is the direction of the city and adopt that model as well. [0:17:13, 0:17:22]: And a part of approval I would imagine we myself, or excuse me, we collectively, along the other cities have to sign some type of agreement with the county in reference to this as well. [0:17:22, 0:17:42]: Yeah, so these r this resolution just basically formalized our decision and adopting that the loss model for flaws. Uh however, what would happen upon its its acceptance is they would uh construct a IGA, which will come down as well, and uh we'll adopt the IGA as well as they develop it, depending on what determination. [0:17:42, 0:17:50]: Is is is is comes about from all the municipalities and what the county decides to agree. So appreciate it. Mr. Alexander. [0:17:50, 0:17:51]: You had a question? [0:17:51, 0:18:11]: Yes, thank you so much. I appreciate this. I just want to speak directly to the citizens for a second, which is certainly this is an opportunity of a lifetime that has been presented, and we like to thank our state legislature and our state legislative board. Property owners have been taxed and taxed. [0:18:11, 0:18:31]: Taxed and taxed. This is an opportunity to reduce property taxes on the county level and on the city level. According to the Georgia Municipal Association, most of the cities in Georgia would be practically able to eliminate their city property tax, which we instituted in 2021. [0:18:31, 0:18:51]: twenty three should this one cent sales tax pass on the ballot in November. But in order for it to get to the ballot, the Henry County and all four cities have to agree on the method. And you know, it was great to be at the municipal dinner the other night and have everybody. [0:18:51, 0:19:11]: Say and feel that uh co cooperation and unity was in the air. And certainly as we approve uh our recommendation, we're gonna go to the table with a sense of humility and understanding that we're gonna put the citizens first and we're not gonna have [0:19:11, 0:19:31]: These uh the contentious debates between the city and the counties, we're going to come with a sense of collaboration and that we're all going to work together because, in the end, in my calculations that I have done basically for a homeowner like myself, basically it would save me about a thousand. [0:19:31, 0:19:50]: A year or a homeowner like yourself who lives in a house between$350,000 and$400,000, it would save you about$1,000 a year minimum in property taxes. Because what we need to understand is that this FLOSS works exactly like the SPLOSS tax. So every time somebody comes to Henry County. [0:19:50, 0:19:52]: And they stay at a hotel. [0:19:53, 0:20:13]: They pay that tax. Every time somebody comes to Costco to shop, they pay that tax. Every time we any type of transaction takes place at a cash register here in the city of Stockbridge and Henry County wide, those citizens will be assisting us in moving forward. And certainly, let me speak for myself. [0:20:13, 0:20:33]: It was a tough decision to implement a city property tax here in the city of Stockbridge when we uh formed a police department and we moved forward with the amphitheater. And I understand that we're paying that off here in August, that we made that decision, but it certainly would be. [0:20:33, 0:20:53]: Be uh an amazing thing to say that we implemented a city tax in 2023 and we're basically able to help the citizens eliminate that tax here in the year 2025 and have complete support for the police department, uh the amphitheaters, such. [0:20:53, 0:21:13]: Such other facilities that we have throughout the city, public works, because it would provide uh monies that would go directly uh to relieving property taxes dollar for dollar. And I think it's very important. Number one, uh the most important thing is to emphasize: should voters decide to approve this. [0:21:13, 0:21:33]: Tax in November, every single cent has to be used for property tax relief. You can't use it for anything else other than that. It is restricted to relieving property taxes on the county and city side. The money cannot be used for anything else in the city besides that. [0:21:32, 0:21:44]: So I appreciate it and um I just wanna make sure that we're going to the table with a sense of collaboration because this is something that really would benefit the citizens and as a win for everybody. [0:21:45, 0:21:48]: Thank you, sir. Counsel any other c I'm sorry, do counsel any other comments? [0:21:49, 0:21:51]: I have to do that. [0:21:51, 0:21:52]: Um [0:21:52, 0:21:53]: So [0:21:54, 0:22:04]: The county had proposed thirty four point two percent to be divided amongst all the count all the s municipalities. Is that what took place? That left them with um [0:22:06, 0:22:18]: That was a difference of three point three percent. So had we agreed with what the was suggestion was, they would have gotten an additional three point oh three percent. But instead [0:22:19, 0:22:25]: We decided to go based off are we going off of the census or so we're going off of the twenty twenty census still? [0:22:26, 0:22:46]: No, we're not going off the uh it's it's based on the proceed the proceeds based upon the twenty twenty-four years census survey and a matter which parties exhaustively negotiated and resolved recent jurisdiction sale tax, which was the loss. So that's right. So that's basically what we decided to go with instead of the recommended thing from the consumer. [0:22:45, 0:23:05]: And I think that's fair. It's a little bit more of an accurate number. Um, as you know, we've had to go through that based off of the population and the annexation of Stockbridge. Right. So those numbers to me are a little bit more fair. And if that's the case, then I definitely would approve this. I I my um because [0:23:05, 0:23:12]: 'cause I think that's in the best interest of Stockbridge and other municipalities. Um [0:23:12, 0:23:23]: And I don't will it completely replace it won't replace the property taxes, but it will help reduce right some of the um expenditures and rollback. Is that what we're hearing? [0:23:23, 0:23:43]: Yes, ma'am. It it offsets it um by a percentage. We the the closer you get to a hundred percent is eliminated altogether as Councilmember Alexander has said before. Um and that's the reason why we chose this model, because had we chose the other percentage breakdown, we get farther and farther away from completely eliminating it. And so [0:23:43, 0:24:02]: You know what I mean? So if we took a different collection rate, is no way the offset won't be as much as we could for our residents. So that's the reason why we elected this model. Okay. And our rate is fourteen point seven three at this final collection. Yes. All right. All right. Thank you. Um, okay, go ahead. Is Barber's comments? [0:24:03, 0:24:23]: I'd like to make a motion to approve a resolution encouraging the obtainability of floss tax relief in collaboration between Henry County and its respective cities. Second. All right, for Miss Barber and Mr. Alexander are all in favor of indicate. She announced the decision. Thank you very much. Thank you. And on that note, I need a motion to adjourn. [0:24:23, 0:24:26]: Yep. You got anything else there? No. [0:24:26, 0:24:32]: So move. Okay. Is there a second? Second. Okay, from Miss Gantt to Mr. Alexander on favor, please indicate. [0:24:32, 0:24:34]: Our media is down journal. God bless you all. [0:24:37, 0:24:38]: Only minutes to the next one.
  • 2025-08-11 · City Council · Transcript · Millage Rate Public Hearing

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    --- title: Millage Rate Public Hearing date: 2025-08-11 source: 2025-08-11_Millage_Rate_Public_Hearing.wav --- [0:01:35, 0:01:38]: Yeah. [0:01:39, 0:01:41]: Good that's [0:01:42, 0:01:59]: Alright ladies and gentlemen, uh let me put the mic on. Alright, ladies and gentlemen. Uh what we'll do we get our second um millage rate public hearing uh started. And now have 6 30. It is a Monday, August 11th. Please uh [0:01:59, 0:02:03]: Excuse me, I'll call the meeting order. Please stand for the invocation, if you can. Ms. Gantt. [0:02:05, 0:02:07]: May we bow our heads in prayer. [0:02:08, 0:02:11]: Lord, we pray for unity and peace in our community. [0:02:11, 0:02:16]: Help us to see each other as brothers and sisters and to work together for the common good. [0:02:17, 0:02:37]: We pray for healing and restoration in our community for those who are sick, hurting, and struggling. May they find comfort and strength in your love and grace. Heavenly Father, we also pray for provision and protection for our community, that we that you would meet the needs of all of your people and keep them safe. [0:02:37, 0:02:38]: From harm. [0:02:38, 0:02:46]: We pray for our leaders that they would be filled with wisdom and discernment as they make decisions that affect our community. [0:02:46, 0:02:50]: Guide them to lead with integrity and with compassion. [0:02:50, 0:03:10]: In these things we pray our to our Lord and Savior. Amen. Amen. Okay. For the Pledge of Allegiance. Pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. In the truth of your father, I want you to stand one nation under God in divisible of liberty and justice for all. [0:03:11, 0:03:13]: Madam Clerk, Rocall, please. [0:03:20, 0:03:22]: Present. Mayor Pro Tem Ganttz. [0:03:24, 0:03:26]: Present. Sorry. [0:03:30, 0:03:31]: Member Berry. [0:03:34, 0:03:35]: Various kind of thing. [0:03:36, 0:03:40]: Present. Councilmember Alex and Present. Mayor Ford and Count. [0:03:40, 0:03:41]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. [0:03:42, 0:03:45]: Um council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:03:45, 0:03:51]: So move. Oh is there a second? A second. Okay, from uh Mr. Alexander to Miss Barber. [0:03:51, 0:03:52]: Yeah. [0:03:52, 0:04:08]: I s she had her hand up. Okay. She had her hand up. Okay. All in favor, please indicate. Okay. It's unanimous decision. On that note, a public hearing, uh 2025 Millage Rate, presented by Ms. Ms. Mulazzi, sir. [0:04:08, 0:04:11]: Ms. Mulazi, ladies and gentlemen, is our our treasurer. [0:04:18, 0:04:20]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh good evening, sir. [0:04:21, 0:04:25]: Uh, this is our second public hearing for marriage rate. [0:04:27, 0:04:33]: And after this we'll have one and the final one on the eighteenth at ten AM. [0:04:35, 0:04:55]: Tax rate is the amount of tax billed based on the fair market value of property using the marriage rate. And the marriage rate is set annually by the governing board. Also, in this uh area you have the school districts that they also have the authority. [0:04:55, 0:05:00]: So they have also to set the mirrorage rate. [0:05:01, 0:05:05]: And the marriage rate is based on the assessed values. [0:05:07, 0:05:09]: Rollback is the [0:05:12, 0:05:21]: Rawback is the the it's required that every year you have m marriage rate, you have to bring back the cost [0:05:22, 0:05:24]: or the rate of the marriage [0:05:25, 0:05:27]: To make sure that you levy [0:05:27, 0:05:29]: The same amount of money [0:05:29, 0:05:32]: You left the previous year. [0:05:32, 0:05:52]: Thinking that the values of properties will be the same. However, that does not happen in many areas or in many circumstances for these two main reasons. One, the values of properties they go up annually, and the other [0:05:52, 0:06:01]: One is the increase of properties within the community or within the city that brings up the value. [0:06:02, 0:06:22]: values of the properties to go up. So if you apply the same marriage rate, that means you levy more. Therefore you are required to roll back. If you levy the same, that means there may be an increase which is in our case [0:06:22, 0:06:25]: There's no rollback. [0:06:27, 0:06:47]: So the values of our tax digest have gone up from twenty twenty-four to twenty twenty-five now. In twenty twenty-four the values of marriage re the um tax digest were up to um one point nine four [0:06:47, 0:06:55]: And this year twenty twenty five it has gone up to two point one billion dollars. [0:06:58, 0:07:18]: Which is an increase of five point six percent for those reasons that I've said some because of the new property that have been uh built within the city, or so the values of the properties have gone up. You not see the values unless maybe [0:07:18, 0:07:24]: your home is to be sold. When you sell your if you were to sell your home last year, [0:07:25, 0:07:38]: and sell the home this year, you were going to pay to receive more money in this year compared to what you would have received last year, an indication of values going up. [0:07:41, 0:08:01]: With the recommended marriage rate to stay as it is three point seven seven that has been levied since the introduction of levy in the seat of Stockbridge, which was twenty twenty-three three point seven seven, twenty twenty-four three point seven seven, and now it's recommended again. [0:08:01, 0:08:21]: going to leave it there at 3.77. And that is bringing up, even though the marriage rate is the same, but with that raw back not being implemented, it's termed as tax increase. But there's no tax increase in a real sense. [0:08:21, 0:08:25]: three point seven seven for three executive years. [0:08:26, 0:08:46]: And also remember that the city implemented last year the Homestead exemption that has been implemented in 2025. So for those that took advantage of Homestead exemption, they will see big reduction of their taxes. [0:08:46, 0:09:06]: Those that have not, they are encouraged to apply when the new session starts. That will be January 1, 2026 through 1st of April 2026. You see the benefit of applying a homestead exemption, homestead exemption. [0:09:06, 0:09:26]: And to those that have already applied they will have the benefits. And those ones that have not, please do so. Every homeowner of the city is eligible. Everyone. If you have a home in the city of Stockbridge, you are eligible to receive a homestead exemption. [0:09:26, 0:09:45]: Basic, which is the 10,000. If you are a homeowner, regardless of your age, you receive 10,000. And if you are 65 years and above, you receive additional 15,000. If you have [0:09:46, 0:10:06]: septic tank on your property, you receive fifteen thousand, but you cannot receive both fifteen thousand for age and fifteen thousand for uh septic tank. You can get only one fifteen thousand plus the basic ten for a total of twenty five thousand. [0:10:14, 0:10:18]: Why do we want the marriage rate to remain where it is? [0:10:20, 0:10:21]: Why? [0:10:22, 0:10:28]: Are we asking or recommending to have the same marriage rate of three point seven seven to remain? [0:10:28, 0:10:48]: Because the city wants to continue to providing the same services that the citizens have been enjoying in last year, and that includes the provision of public works services, police department services. [0:10:48, 0:10:51]: and various improvement [0:10:52, 0:11:00]: That's to include roads, construction, maintenance throughout the city. Those services. [0:11:01, 0:11:03]: Our governing body wants them to continue. [0:11:04, 0:11:06]: Плас економік девопмент проєкте. [0:11:07, 0:11:27]: That will attract new business owners, including potential business owners that they want to relocate to our city. So that maintenance of 3.77 will help to retain those services provided to you. [0:11:27, 0:11:28]: citizens. [0:11:31, 0:11:37]: Here's a calculation of two examples that have been given [0:11:37, 0:11:39]: Just in case you have uh [0:11:39, 0:11:44]: A home of hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, three hundred thousand, [0:11:44, 0:11:47]: and so on and so forth, the calculation is the same. [0:11:48, 0:11:51]: Let's say you have a home of a hundred thousand. [0:11:51, 0:11:57]: Calculation of marriage rate is based on the market value. [0:11:58, 0:12:14]: of 40% of the market value. So 40% of the 100,000 will give us assessed value of 40,000. That 40,000 assessed value, if you remove the basic homestead exemption, [0:12:15, 0:12:30]: Everything on the left hand side does not include homestead exemption reduction. Everything that is on the right side it does include homestead exemption and is in red. [0:12:31, 0:12:51]: So if there's no homestead exemption, that forty thousand we multiply it by uh three point seven seven, which is our marriage rate, and it brings us to a hundred and fifty dollars and eighty cents, that will be your annual taxes for the year. If you want to [0:12:51, 0:12:54]: To pay monthly, divide that by twelve. [0:12:54, 0:13:12]: And on the right hand side, the very same property of hundred thousand, market value of forty, assessed value will be forty thousand. That assessed value of forty remove ten thousand, that is the basic homestead exemption. [0:13:12, 0:13:15]: You remain with thirty thousand. [0:13:15, 0:13:35]: That thirty thousand will be your taxable value di timus three point seven seven mils and it makes brings to hundred and thirteen dollars and ten cents. That's what you pay per year. If you had applied and you had [0:13:35, 0:13:36]: A basic [0:13:36, 0:13:39]: Homestead exemption of ten thousand. [0:13:39, 0:13:42]: So if you didn't apply you pay hundred and fifty [0:13:42, 0:13:48]: and eighty, if you applied the bas one you get hundred and thirteen [0:13:48, 0:13:49]: And ten cents. [0:13:53, 0:13:59]: The second example will be if you got both the basic, which is ten thousand. [0:13:59, 0:14:01]: Plus either it was [0:14:03, 0:14:10]: Septic tank or UR sixty-five and above. On the left side, it remains the same. [0:14:11, 0:14:12]: Uh but on the [0:14:12, 0:14:14]: Right hand side. [0:14:14, 0:14:34]: The same value of hundred thousand, market value times forty, it gives you forty thousand, and that forty thousand minus total homestead exemption of twenty-five thousand, you remain with fifteen thousand. Fifteen thousand times three point seven. [0:14:34, 0:14:54]: You get$56.55 for the annual taxes. You see if you didn't apply, you will pay$150. If you applied and you qualified both of those ones, you pay$56 and there is a saving of 94. [0:14:54, 0:15:01]: those advantages of your homestead exemption. You just have to claim it by applying. [0:15:04, 0:15:06]: I have also added the [0:15:08, 0:15:13]: different amount of home, say it's three hundred thousand home. [0:15:13, 0:15:16]: Uh the calculation will be the same on the left hand side. [0:15:17, 0:15:20]: Uh that's three hundred times forty. [0:15:21, 0:15:23]: percent you get hundred and twenty [0:15:24, 0:15:27]: thousand, hundred and twenty thousand becomes taxable value. [0:15:28, 0:15:31]: That one taxable value times the three point [0:15:31, 0:15:33]: Seven seven. [0:15:33, 0:15:41]: You get four hundred and fifty-two dollars and forty cents out of your three hundred thousand home. [0:15:42, 0:15:47]: And if you did the basic homestead exemption on the left hand side. [0:15:48, 0:15:55]: Uh forty times the three hundred still hundred and twenty, minus ten, you get hundred and ten. [0:15:55, 0:16:00]: Hundred and ten thousand times three point seven seven. [0:16:01, 0:16:04]: You get four hundred and fourteen seventy. [0:16:04, 0:16:05]: But yeah. [0:16:06, 0:16:12]: And you still have that difference of thirty seven dollars and seventy cents. [0:16:13, 0:16:17]: compared it to the one that he did not apply. [0:16:17, 0:16:19]: And the last example [0:16:20, 0:16:28]: will be on the same home of three hundred thousand on the left hand side it will be still the same amount [0:16:28, 0:16:32]: Of four hundred and fifty two and forty cents. [0:16:33, 0:16:37]: On the right hand side, three hundred thousand times four. [0:16:37, 0:16:46]: Forty, it's hundred and twenty, hundred and twenty minus twenty-five thousand, you remain with ninety-five thousand. [0:16:46, 0:16:52]: ninety five thousand times three point seven seven you get three hundred and fifty eight [0:16:52, 0:16:54]: And fifteen cents. [0:16:54, 0:17:03]: versus four hundred and fifty two forty cents. You save ninety-four dollars and twenty-five cents a year. [0:17:05, 0:17:08]: The next one is the tax digest. [0:17:10, 0:17:18]: Tax digest is the a comparison of sources of taxes. So you have real. [0:17:20, 0:17:32]: Or personal property you have uh motor vehicle as you know that we have to pay or levy taxes on the motor vehicles that we have. Then you have mobile homes [0:17:32, 0:17:37]: А then we have timber, heavy duty equipment. [0:17:38, 0:17:40]: That will bring us to gross [0:17:42, 0:17:43]: Digest. [0:17:43, 0:17:51]: And that digest is the one that for the past three years, in twenty twenty three it was one point eight billion. [0:17:52, 0:17:54]: In twenty twenty [0:17:54, 0:18:12]: for it was one point nine billion. And in this year 2025, our gross gross before we remove ev anything, it's two point one billion for the very same reasons that we talked about that [0:18:12, 0:18:28]: In these properties we talked about, there have been some additions, be it we have more vehicles, we have more property uh personal uh or real estate, uh those ones will bring up to the gross. Then from the gross we have to remove [0:18:29, 0:18:32]: uh reductions. We have to make some reductions. [0:18:33, 0:18:38]: And those reductions, the bigger one will be the very same homestead exemptions. [0:18:39, 0:18:59]: Last year or year before we had homestead exemptions but they were very minor compared to this year. Uh some of those ones that you don't levy taxes, I'll give example would be churches. We have churches throughout the city, you don't levy taxes on that. [0:18:59, 0:19:19]: But this year the council gave everyone who has home in the city to have homestead exemption. So our homestead exemptions have grown from 44,000 last year to 119,000. It's a lot. [0:19:19, 0:19:25]: loss of revenues but again it's a relief of paying taxes to the citizen. [0:19:27, 0:19:36]: And with that uh you find out that um twenty twenty three three point seven [0:19:36, 0:19:43]: Mills twenty twenty four, three point seven miles and twenty twenty five, still the same. [0:19:44, 0:20:03]: Uh in twenty twenty three we levied six point eight million, twenty twenty four seven point uh one million and in seven uh twenty twenty five we're expecting to receive seven point three million. [0:20:03, 0:20:13]: It does not mean we are going to receive everything. That's a projection because some of the taxes will not be paid for several reasons. [0:20:17, 0:20:24]: Uh then we have uh so we can say clearly say that the only increase in taxes [0:20:25, 0:20:28]: Removing everything is a hundred and thirty one thousand. [0:20:29, 0:20:41]: Uh out of that hundred and thirty-one thousand, remove the hundred and nineteen thousand that has gone for homestead exemption. So real taxes in twenty twenty-three. [0:20:41, 0:20:43]: Increase was a hundred percent. [0:20:44, 0:20:49]: The reason is that it was the start, it was an initial year, so it was [0:20:49, 0:20:53]: hundred percent tax because it had never been there before. [0:20:53, 0:20:59]: And the twenty twenty four last year increase was uh four point four percent. [0:21:00, 0:21:01]: And in this year. [0:21:02, 0:21:03]: That we are requesting [0:21:04, 0:21:06]: To retain the males [0:21:06, 0:21:13]: On three point seven seven the increase is only one point eight three percent. [0:21:14, 0:21:19]: With that, if I have any comment questions from the governing body [0:21:19, 0:21:20]: This is the time. [0:21:20, 0:21:31]: Thank you, Frank, for your presentation. Uh ladies and gentlemen, I want to listen to let you know that the Henry Cannon Task Commission, Mr. Michael Harris, is also present here tonight as well. And on that note, uh Council. [0:21:32, 0:21:33]: Questions. [0:21:33, 0:21:53]: Go ahead, Mr. I don't have a question, just a comment. Um I think that uh we had a hearing earlier this morning and um it was pretty much the consensus of council that our millage rate is gonna stay the same, therefore we are not increasing taxes. Our millage rate will remain three point seven seven. It's been that way since twenty twenty three. [0:21:53, 0:22:13]: Um in 2022 we did not have any property taxes. So we are keeping it at, as far as I I know, I think the majority of us have already spoken out that we are going to remain at 3.77. And in fact, our taxes, if you live in the city limits, are cheaper than the [0:22:13, 0:22:33]: those if who live in unincorporated Henry. Um and so nothing's going to change with that. Um if your property tax is increase at all, it's due to your value of your property. It's not anything that mayor and counselor are doing on our end. We're keeping our millage the same. And so [0:22:33, 0:22:34]: So um [0:22:34, 0:22:36]: That's something that [0:22:36, 0:22:40]: I just really wanted to point out in in regards to the tax digest [0:22:41, 0:23:00]: um for real and personal property, you'll see that there's an increase each year, but that is based off of new properties and properties more development coming in, more townhomes, more single family dwellings, and the and that's the way it's listed there in regards to that. You'll see that, but [0:23:00, 0:23:20]: Other than that, our millage stays the same. And we have a rollback due to police services. And so I think that's a good thing. Um we are we've been really steadfast on that. I believe that Marin Cow, it is in my position that we've been taxed to death. And I believe that my colleagues believe that as well. Um and so [0:23:20, 0:23:23]: Just letting you know we're not voting for an increase. [0:23:24, 0:23:34]: On that note, the uh third hearing, after tonight, third hearing would be ten o'clock on the eighteenth of August and after at the end of that meeting, we'll make an official uh vote on this aspect as well. [0:23:34, 0:23:37]: Mm. One second. Go ahead, Ms. Barber. [0:23:37, 0:23:54]: Mr. Malazi, can you also um provide that breakdown of the total number of applicants for each of the categories, septic systems, sixty-five years and older, and just a general exemption? So [0:23:56, 0:24:00]: Total applicants for the twenty twenty [0:24:01, 0:24:12]: five homestead exemptions that we closed on the first of April, we had the 1,729 applicants. [0:24:14, 0:24:34]: Almost everyone that applied so far, there's no one that was disqualified. As I said that there were three groups or three categories. Everyone you have home, you are homeowner, you qualify the basic of ten thousand. Just being a homeowner in the city, you qualify. [0:24:34, 0:24:52]: qualify that 10,000. The second one is you have to be 65 or you have a s you have to have a septic tank. So far we had 770, those that applied that they have septic tank in the city. [0:24:53, 0:24:55]: And the we will [0:24:55, 0:25:15]: continue to providing some information that will be needed. We'll give who how many of those ones are 65? Things like those ones. But so far it's 1729 that applied and none was rejected. If there will be anything we [0:25:15, 0:25:28]: see when tax bills are out, but so far when we work with the tax assessor and the our tax commissioner, we are everyone that applied so far, none has been rejected. [0:25:30, 0:25:30]: Go right, please. [0:25:31, 0:25:37]: If you would, Mr. Melazie, please reiterate to the community the timeline of when. [0:25:38, 0:25:46]: All homeowners can submit applications for their homestead exemption because I want them to take advantage of this. This is a discount. [0:25:46, 0:25:48]: If you are a homeowner. [0:25:49, 0:25:55]: you already qualify for one of the homestead exemptions. All you gotta do is submit your application. [0:25:55, 0:26:15]: The second one with the sixty five years and older, and then the third one with the septic system. You have to have a septic tank on your property, you have ten thousand. You have to be sixty-five years or older, you have fifteen thousand, or you have to be a homeowner, that is ten thousand. [0:26:15, 0:26:35]: But you cannot have both septic tank and 65 and above. You can get only 115,000. So we will this year will be much much area to publicize. It will be posted on our website. We'll send fryers. [0:26:35, 0:26:55]: You unfortunately you have a lot of people from uncorporated area that are using our uh zip code of three zero two eight one that are calling in because either they have septic tank or they are older than sixty uh five. The fact that you are using that [0:26:55, 0:27:01]: address if you do not pay taxes to the city of Stockbridge, you don't qualify. [0:27:02, 0:27:20]: And we make sure you call in we'll tell you exactly where you are. If you are in an incorporated area will tell you uh you don't qualify because you do not pay taxes to city of Stockbridge. You don't pay taxes to any city besides the county. [0:27:21, 0:27:41]: So for those that are homeowners, please take advantage of that. And most of them they will call in. I was out, or my my parents, this and that. Time frame of application is January 1 through September, uh, April 1. On Fool's Day, don't forget Fool's Day. [0:27:40, 0:27:46]: day is the closing of the homestead exemption. So you can't forget that. [0:27:50, 0:27:51]: Mr. Alzheimer, you have some comments, sir? [0:27:51, 0:28:05]: Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate that. And based on what you just said, I did some uh math calculations here. Uh on based on that four hundred and fourteen dollar uh [0:28:07, 0:28:27]: for the three hundred thousand dollar house at four hundred and fourteen dollars and seventy cents. The total tax increase for the city was a hundred and thirty-one dollars one hundred and thirty one thousand six hundred and four. If you multiply that times the one point three net increase [0:28:27, 0:28:33]: That means basically it's about$7.58 per home. [0:28:34, 0:28:54]: which is a a minimal or negligible um uh increase total. Basically as Ms. Gann has said um and we've all reiterated we're we're planning to vote to leave it at three point seven seven'cause that seems uh the the appropriate thing to do and we have to pay these taxes [0:28:54, 0:29:14]: uh in the city just like each and every one of you uh have to do as well. Uh later on you will hear from the tax commissioner and who will come up and talk to us a little bit because we did that at the first meeting uh as well because we got more people here tonight who need to hear about the potential one cent [0:29:14, 0:29:34]: Sales tax that's going to go on the ballot to uh this in November if all goes well. That particular portion will be used to pay down to zero, hopefully, this uh new city tax that came into preparation. But it's gonna be up to the voters. If you vote yes, then this new city. [0:29:34, 0:29:54]: New tax will be used to eliminate the city tax portion of your bill. If you vote no, we'll go ahead and continue with the same basis that we're doing. And I always like to say this at the meeting that we had earlier, which is we implemented a police department in 2022, and we took four [0:29:54, 0:30:01]: $4 million out of the city savings, so you wouldn't have a uh a property tax in 2022. [0:30:01, 0:30:21]: We ba we gave you your money back. We gave you a refund, like the governor gives you the$250 refund. We gave the entire city four million dollars back in 2022, so you didn't have a property tax. And we were able to not have a property tax in 2022 and implement it in 2023 by giving you back the same. [0:30:21, 0:30:40]: that we had already recouped. But I'll say this again, I'll go to my grave understanding that if we made the right decision to start the police department because your public safety was number one with those 60 plus officers that we have on the street who are doing an amazing job, crime is down in the city. [0:30:40, 0:31:00]: And we're trying to do everything that we can to squeeze every nickel to make sure that these dollars are appropriated. We've made staff changes in order to make sure that every dollar is accounted for. And we believe in our new city manager, Mr. Shantez Edmondson, and the entire team and Mr. Malazi, and that we're on the right course now. Thank you. [0:31:01, 0:31:21]: You think okay, Ms. Blair, go ahead, please. Um again, thank you again, Mr. Malazi, for making this presentation. And I just want to really echo what I stated earlier for the morning's uh hearing at 10 a.m. this morning, is that our biggest uh obligation and responsibility is to make sure that we put the literature out for our citizens. [0:31:21, 0:31:41]: To make sure that they can apply for the uh homestead exemptions, the exemptions within the appropriate time frame, because this is a great uh benefit as well to the taxpayers. Um, right now we only had 1,729 applicants to take advantage of the homestead exemption, and so that doesn't. [0:31:41, 0:31:57]: doesn't really reflect the true population or the census of s of the city of Stockbridge. So we have a little bit more work to do to make sure that we spread that word, spread that message so that others uh can take advantage of this this uh tax option. And um [0:31:58, 0:32:12]: Again, if we can do whatever we need to do moving forward to make sure we put that literature out, put mailers out. Uh that's that's my that's my statement to everyone today, is just make sure we take advantage of everything that's being made available to the taxpayers. [0:32:12, 0:32:16]: Who do that, sir? Thank you. Mr. Edmondson, do you have any comments at this time, sir? [0:32:24, 0:32:44]: Uh, good evening, Mayor and Council and Community. I just want to uh reiterate because I don't think it resonates a lot with the people, uh, what this council is is offering. If you look at the municipalities around us, they having to increase their millage rate uh for several different reasons. But not only are we keeping the millage rate the same, but also offering a [0:32:44, 0:32:46]: Full blown out one hundred percent. [0:32:47, 0:32:49]: uh homestead exemption, which is [0:32:50, 0:33:10]: Rare, I must say, in this day and time. So as we mentioned earlier, we will ensure that every resident is aware of that homestead starting January 1st before January 1st. We're gonna have applications printed out here at City Hall. We're gonna uh have them at different meetings, different gatherings to make sure that everybody takes advantage of that. [0:33:10, 0:33:30]: I believe that is fantastic and people should take advantage of that. Um and as we talked about a little bit earlier, uh we do have the tax commissioner here talking about the flaws. So we are different definitely putting our brains together to try to find different ways to offset all the stuff and the taxes that we have here in the city. So I just want to commend this governing body. [0:33:30, 0:33:50]: In doing that, I know I kind of came in on the back end, but me looking at those numbers and figures, I think that is a bold move. That's a bold statement. But I think the city, uh, these residents deserve anything that we can give them, uh, especially in the direction that we are trying to go. Um, we are growing smart, we are building smart, and I just think that we'll be able to accomplish uh all that. [0:33:49, 0:34:09]: That we set out to do for 2026 by starting on a scroll foundation, and that's by keeping the resonance in mind when it comes to taxes. So I just want to commend the governor body for that. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Mr. Alexander. I'll just have one more brief comment. I want you to in 2023, the staff recommended a four point one two. [0:34:09, 0:34:11]: two five tax rate. [0:34:12, 0:34:32]: We did not select that. We selected a 3.77 tax rate because we knew the first year we were not going to be able to give you the homestead exemption. So in real in reality, you're getting a double homestead exemption because we put the homestead exemption in the 3.77 for the initial because we knew. [0:34:32, 0:34:52]: Knew we needed legislation in order to establish the homestead. So, what we've done on this second iteration is to give you the homestead exemption anyway, even though we selected the lower rate initially at 3.77. So the taxes were on the 3.77 amount was a significantly lower. [0:34:52, 0:35:12]: Lower than the 4.125. So we're giving you the home exemption even with the lower rate after staff after previous staff had recommended a higher initial rate. But we wanted to make sure that we were being uh that we implemented the minimum amount of tax uh up front, and that's what we want to continue to do. [0:35:12, 0:35:13]: Thank you. [0:35:13, 0:35:25]: Okay, before I read the public hearing rules and and allow the sensory to make their comments, I wanna offer the uh the opportunity for Mr. Harris to come forward if you need anything you need to say, sir, as a tax commissioner for Henry County. [0:35:30, 0:35:50]: Good evening again, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, Council members, public. Welcome to Mr. Edmondson. Welcome. Great to have you on board. Um yeah, as I mentioned this morning, I think there's some questions in reference to the splot and to the floss. But prior to get into that, I did want to just kind of reiterate that this year has been quite a bit different than previous years, in that we had some new legislation. [0:35:50, 0:36:10]: That we had to deal with. The residents voted for and it was approved the House Bill 581 that passed last year. And in so doing, what that did was it created an additional ad valorm or tax uh floating homestead exemption based on your valuation. People often ask me, [0:36:10, 0:36:30]: you know, how does that, how will that impact here, folks here in Henry County? So for the county taxes, as well everyone bear in mind that here in Henry County, we're one of 30 handful of counties, some 30 some counties, that offers a frozen provision, which means if you purchase your home in 2000 or 2010 and you applied for and were approved for your homestead. [0:36:30, 0:36:40]: the year you were approved for homestead, your property value was frozen at that level. So rather than what this new House Bill five eighty eighty one provision does [0:36:40, 0:37:00]: It caps the valuation increase of your property year over year. And then it's tied to the CPI, consumer price index, typically somewhere between three and five percent. So even taking that three percent. So I tell myself, well, you know, from a county's perspective, you're either looking at a maximum increase of of that three to five percent, or what we currently have in [0:37:00, 0:37:04]: place which is zero um because of the frozen provision. So [0:37:04, 0:37:05]: Um [0:37:05, 0:37:25]: But in so doing, because the county and all of the municipalities all four of the cities opted in based on the uh residents residence desires, that does make the cities and the county eligible for this um floating optional sales tax, uh flexible optional sales tax. [0:37:25, 0:37:45]: The FLOSS as it's being called, which is structured much in the same way as our current SPLOSS is, which is special project local option sales tax. Um this is a flexible local option sales tax. However, the big caveat here is that it can only be utilized to re as a re all revenues collected have to go towards reducing the [0:37:45, 0:38:05]: county or the municipalities millage rate. So all those funds that are collected has to go be applied towards the reduction of the millage rate, which I think was what um councilman Alcan alluded to. So right now it's my understanding that the county and the cities are in negotiations on what that will look like in the structure of that piece. But had not everyone agreed and [0:38:05, 0:38:12]: Opted in, then that provision of that option would not be on the table. But because everyone did, there is that that option does exist now. [0:38:13, 0:38:32]: The school board that while they did opt out of that provision, um, that was not a requirement based on the legislation. So p a lot of people ask'cause what about the school board? I understand they opted out, they did opt out, but they were not required to opt in in order to be for everyone else to be to remain eligible. So I'm sure if you had any specific questions in reference to the floss or not. [0:38:32, 0:38:34]: I just want to say. [0:38:35, 0:38:55]: As far as things are concerned, let's so everybody keep it in perspective. 60% of the tax digest is the school, correct? That's correct. So the school board opted out, which is the one cent sales tax that would be on the ballot would be used for county and city taxes to reduce those. But people will be like [0:38:55, 0:39:15]: Like, well, my taxes have been going up. The taxes have been going up because it's been tied to the 60% more than anything else. But certainly if you suggested the school board is trying to reduce the M and O, I believe, to try to offset some of that uh uh to uh some of that increase. Yeah, I was I attended their millage hearing this morning and [0:39:15, 0:39:35]: And they are proposing their first reduction since 2007 in their MO from 20 mils where it's been fixed at, where it's been capped at, and they are proposing a nineteen point eight mil rate, which will, again, will have an impact on everyone. The the big, the stark difference between the county tax and/or city taxes in this case is that the [0:39:35, 0:39:55]: Frozen provision while it applies to the county tax portion, which you creates about 36, 37%, it does not apply to the school portion. What they have instead is their age exemption beginning at age 62. Age 62, you have a it's a tiered system they have at age 62, it's your [0:39:55, 0:40:15]: Assessment value is reduced, it's reduced again at age sixty five, again at age sixty eight, and by age seventy, um any resident age seventy or over with an approved homestead no longer pays any um board of education taxes. So again, that's that's their the the the structure of their homestead exemption. Um the structure of the county's homestead exemption piece is the [0:40:14, 0:40:20]: [2420.4, 2422.1]: exemption that you put in place for this year. [0:40:22, 0:40:31]: Yeah, I j I just wanna keep it in perspective'cause see this room always seems a little bit full. And then the other two meetings at the county and the school board, there's nobody in there. [0:40:32, 0:40:33]: So thank you. [0:40:34, 0:40:36]: All right. Oh I'm sorry, go ahead, Ms. Bottom. [0:40:36, 0:40:38]: This is not a question for you. [0:40:38, 0:40:45]: Mr Harris, thank you. You're welcome. Um this is just a comment that I wanted to make. [0:40:46, 0:40:53]: So originally when the council adopted the millage rate, we were given a breakdown of [0:40:53, 0:41:02]: How the 3.77 mils rate would be used. I know that our police department does. [0:41:02, 0:41:05]: consume most of our operating budget. [0:41:06, 0:41:07]: However [0:41:08, 0:41:09]: It does not consume [0:41:09, 0:41:11]: All of the three point seven seven. [0:41:12, 0:41:13]: I want to go on record. [0:41:13, 0:41:14]: Right now. [0:41:15, 0:41:15]: Again. [0:41:16, 0:41:16]: And say. [0:41:17, 0:41:19]: I do not want to use his [0:41:19, 0:41:20]: Any. [0:41:20, 0:41:22]: Of the three point seven seven [0:41:22, 0:41:25]: Millage rate that is collected. [0:41:26, 0:41:27]: The city tax. [0:41:27, 0:41:29]: I do not support using any of it. [0:41:30, 0:41:32]: for the operations of the Sampatheater. [0:41:33, 0:41:39]: It is to be used for all of the other essential services of our city. [0:41:41, 0:41:42]: We have a responsibility. [0:41:43, 0:41:46]: We need to go out and look for sponsors. [0:41:46, 0:41:49]: for the operations of the amphitheater. [0:41:49, 0:41:51]: I wanted to put that on record. [0:41:52, 0:41:53]: I want the citizens to know. [0:41:54, 0:41:55]: This city tax. [0:41:56, 0:41:57]: І зналі [0:41:57, 0:41:59]: To fund our police department. [0:42:00, 0:42:03]: It is to fund other departments of our city public works. [0:42:04, 0:42:10]: and other departments. It should not be used for the amphitheater. [0:42:10, 0:42:11]: Unfortunately [0:42:12, 0:42:13]: I believe that was the case. [0:42:14, 0:42:16]: In the past, last year. [0:42:16, 0:42:17]: And then the year before. [0:42:18, 0:42:19]: I don't wanna see that happen. [0:42:19, 0:42:20]: Again. [0:42:21, 0:42:23]: That's all. I know that your presentation, Mr Malaze, [0:42:24, 0:42:27]: Thank you for it. It's very it's a simplified version. [0:42:28, 0:42:29]: Presentation. [0:42:29, 0:42:31]: For the public to comprehend. [0:42:31, 0:42:32]: And read it. [0:42:32, 0:42:34]: But it doesn't give a breakdown. [0:42:34, 0:42:37]: of how these taxes will be used. [0:42:38, 0:42:40]: And I just wanted to go on record with that. [0:42:40, 0:42:41]: Thank you. [0:42:42, 0:43:02]: Okay, council, no other uh questions. Now go into public hearing rules. Please mute all cell phones and electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk for approaching the podium. After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by [0:43:02, 0:43:18]: applicant or the representatives regarding the proposed plans for property along with or any other relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. [0:43:19, 0:43:37]: Each side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time may be extended at the discretion of the counsel. Please keep comments and presentation professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. Please refrain from any applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. [0:43:38, 0:43:58]: After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer, never to members of the council, staff, or audience. All comments will be made from the podium where you will be required to state your name and address for the record. Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber. [0:43:58, 0:44:02]: [2642.6, 2662.6]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part or of his slash her speaking time as rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire ten minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the counsel may ask the applicant to address questions andor concerns. [0:44:22, 0:44:42]: will call for a motion and second to the motion will have any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for the vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. So the public hearing is now open. I'm going to start on my left side. Anyone on the left side that has any comments for the the 3.77 or for the positive comments for [0:44:42, 0:45:02]: the presentation was given this evening on my very left side. Anybody in the middle? Positive comments for on my far right. Any comments? Okay. Seeing none. Oh any negative comment? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Positive comments. I'm sorry. Come on up. I see. Any other um positive comments? If not [0:45:02, 0:45:03]: Um [0:45:06, 0:45:08]: Come on up to the mic. Name and address, please. [0:45:13, 0:45:14]: Yeah, given reference. [0:45:17, 0:45:18]: I'm sorry. [0:45:20, 0:45:26]: N okay, okay, no problems. Okay, so all right, so any uh negative comments to the presentation and briefing from my very left side. [0:45:27, 0:45:47]: In the middle. Any any negative comments to the presentation? Okay. Before right. All right, seeing none. So otherwise I'll close the public hearing on that note. This is a uh that we'll end that. This is actually an informational session. Once again, we'll have this uh third public hearing on Miller's rate and um on the eighteenth of August at ten uh in the morning and we'll make a final [0:45:47, 0:45:56]: Decision at the end of that particular meeting. On that note, then I will say to you that I will well, I'll act for a motion to end our meeting. [0:45:56, 0:45:58]: Some moves. Is there a second? [0:45:58, 0:46:04]: Okay, from Miss Gantt uh to Mr. Berry. All fair, please indicate. Ladies and gentlemen, the meeting is now over. [0:46:04, 0:46:10]: Now I will tell you then give it a few minutes and we'll start our our regular council meeting for the evening. [0:46:10, 0:46:13]: Give it about five minutes and we'll we'll con uh start that particular meeting.
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    --- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2025-08-11 source: 2025-08-11_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:57, 0:01:15]: Absolutely. Okay. All right, ladies and gentlemen. We are I've been told that we are now live, we're recording, and this is always a good time to have our our ceremonial uh process of our meeting this evening. And uh so we're gonna start off with uh all of you are special, without a doubt. Everybody's special, right? [0:01:16, 0:01:23]: But we got the honor here that we have Miss Georgia USA International, Sakari Valentine. I got it right? [0:01:23, 0:01:25]: Okay. Come on up, please. [0:01:30, 0:01:32]: Now now this is uh [0:01:33, 0:01:35]: This is the first time obviously she and I've met. [0:01:36, 0:01:56]: And uh I think you can still hear me the mic's right there. I think you still hear me here. So uh here in Starbury's the other population we want to honor you uh for uh for your all your accomplishments and the fact that you actually live within the city, so that's even makes it more special. And uh so uh we want everybody listening, right, right, or recording. If you don't [0:01:55, 0:02:15]: You need to move. You need to come here and join us. All right, so let me go through this process, okay? Socory Valentine, Miss Georgia USA, U.S. International 2025. Whereas Socorry Valentine, a Stockbridge resident, captured the title of Miss Georgia U.S. International 2025, only one of the most prestigious state titles. [0:02:15, 0:02:16]: in the country. [0:02:17, 0:02:21]: Whereas Sakori is a proud representative of today's modern woman. [0:02:21, 0:02:41]: Who is passionate about empowering women and girls, championing cultural understanding, and advocating for global goals that reflect the core values of the Miss U.S. International Organization. Whereas Corey graduated from Georgia State University with a BBA in finance and has a successful career in sales working and as an account manager. [0:02:41, 0:02:43]: manager for a startup company. [0:02:43, 0:02:52]: Outside of her current work uh in a promotional products, Corey offers uh uh etiquette lessons to women and children as a certified etiquette consultant. [0:02:53, 0:03:10]: Whereas through her initiatives, a refined woman, Shakari is passionate about reaching young women and equipping them with the tools they need to carry themselves confidently with poise. And whereas Shakari recently competed for the coveted title of Miss US International, [0:03:10, 0:03:30]: Geez. On July 6, 2020 uh 2025 in Washington, D.C., placed in the top 12 of the year's competition, earning the leadership award and receiving commitment to our planet recognition. Now therefore I am PS4 by virtual authority vested than me as the mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members out now [0:03:30, 0:03:50]: Alexander, Yolanda Barber, Kyle Berry, Lakesa Gannon, and Fonzo Thomas to hereby recognize Sakari Valentine for instilling confidence, teaching modern etiquette, grace, and refined social skills to girls and women of all ages throughout the state of Georgia. And witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the eleventh day of August year of our Lord two thousand. [0:03:50, 0:04:00]: And I signed a proclamation along with our clerk Vanessa Holliday. And congratulations to you. I'll take that [0:04:01, 0:04:13]: Now I probably should be able to no no no no no don't go away because what happens what happens is whenever you do this, you did I did the mic for you, but I'm gonna give it back to you because you have the floor. Whatever comments you'd like to make. [0:04:13, 0:04:14]: Go ahead. [0:04:14, 0:04:34]: Thank you so much for this proclamation. As he said, my name is Shikori Valentine, and I'm a certified etiquette consultant through my business, A Refined Woman, where I teach etiquette and poise to young women and adults to help them increase their confidence in the way that they show up in the world. I noticed that in many times, especially with social media, [0:04:34, 0:04:45]: We lack the social cues that are necessary to succeed in today's society. And I'm so thankful that I have the opportunity to bring this lost art back to life. Thank you. [0:04:47, 0:04:58]: So anybody anybody else here that wan wanna speak uh in reference to this recognition? No, it's just me. Just you okay. Well we're gonna take a uh picture here, I'm gonna lay this down. [0:05:00, 0:05:04]: Okay. And um I guess this would work right here? [0:05:04, 0:05:06]: Hey [0:05:14, 0:05:15]: Right. [0:05:18, 0:05:20]: Congratulations. [0:05:22, 0:05:26]: Thank you very much. Appreciate you. [0:05:27, 0:05:34]: Alrighty. So actually I probably just need to make sure I'm just right on here. Let me turn let me turn this off. I'll just go right here. [0:05:36, 0:05:41]: So uh let's see here. We have several different oaths of offices here and um [0:05:44, 0:05:45]: Jalen Holman. [0:05:46, 0:05:48]: All right, come on up, sir. And [0:05:54, 0:05:56]: So listen. [0:05:56, 0:05:58]: No, on this side, please. [0:05:58, 0:06:17]: 'Cause whenever take pi no no face me okay face me. Okay, no problem, no problem. I like to get the the seal of the of the uh city in the background. So um this deals on the Main Street Advisory Board, oath of office. So I'm gonna take this and uh speak in small snippets and before you repeat after me, all right? So raise your right hand. [0:06:17, 0:06:20]: I state your name. I'll tell you a moment. [0:06:20, 0:06:23]: Board member? Board member. Do solemnly swear and affirm? [0:06:24, 0:06:25]: You saw me swear and firm? [0:06:25, 0:06:25]: Yeah. [0:06:26, 0:06:31]: Some sweater born. Okay. That I will faithfully perform? That will faithfully perform. Oh. [0:06:31, 0:06:35]: Perform. The duties of the Main Street Advisory Board? Duties of the Main Street Board. [0:06:35, 0:06:42]: Finally word. On the city of Stockbridge. And I will? I do will. [0:06:42, 0:06:47]: To the best of my ability. To my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend. [0:06:47, 0:06:55]: The charter thereof. As well as the constitution and laws and law of the state of Georgia. [0:06:55, 0:06:57]: in the United States of America. [0:06:58, 0:06:58]: Exactly. [0:06:59, 0:07:09]: And that's just mechanical. Okay. I further affirm that. Further affirm that. Upon assumption of this office. Of this office. I do not hold any unaccounted for. [0:07:09, 0:07:12]: Public money due and payable to the state. [0:07:13, 0:07:15]: Any political subdivision of the state. [0:07:16, 0:07:25]: Division of the state. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or authority thereof. Nor do I hold any other office. Well you can [0:07:26, 0:07:46]: Any other office of trust of trust of the government of the United States of America of this state of any foreign state as prescribed by the law by the law of the state of Georgia. I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city. [0:07:46, 0:08:05]: Public city. A stop bridge. And the best of my ability. Without fear. Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. Reward. Expect or expectation thereof. Expectation thereof. Okay, this is the 11th day of August 2025 and congratulations, sir. [0:08:05, 0:08:13]: So the the the floor is yours if you'd like to say anything. We gotta sign a document here, but there's is the mic is here, sir. If you had anything you'd like to say. [0:08:14, 0:08:15]: Uh yeah, sure. Um [0:08:16, 0:08:34]: Well, as a resident of or as I was born in Stockbridge, so I want to, you know, to join this board to I guess, you know, impart my wisdom upon the city like as a former resident of the Stockbridge. So as a as a designer I want to I guess help [0:08:35, 0:08:55]: create a better city that that I once, you know, would know of or could have have when when I was resident here. Okay. So thank you. No problem. Thank you. All right? Yeah, what so what it is is yeah what if we sign here and there's a two documents, yeah. And you on a main street, did you all have anything you wanted to say at this time? [0:08:55, 0:09:05]: We we have a gift for we would like to make sure we acknowledge his wife who came here to join us. Oh, okay. Fantastic. How you doing? Hi, how are you doing? [0:09:05, 0:09:11]: And you are S J Okay. S J All right. Oh thank you. [0:09:11, 0:09:24]: Did you want to say anything? No. Just offering. No. Okay. Just want to give a picture of your guy. We want you in the picture, didn't you? You can give the camera to somebody else. Okay. [0:09:24, 0:09:27]: Someone else could take the picture. [0:09:28, 0:09:45]: We I we'll give it to you as well, take all the time. Okay. Well come on come on, okay come this way as long as we get the seal. When we get the seal and steady, come on down. Shift one, come on shift on down. Okay. Okay. Um delay is good. Okay. [0:10:00, 0:10:12]: Congratulations to you, sir. Until you sign that, so give us a holiday and sign as a clerk and she'll get you a copy of that, okay? All right. Good deal? [0:10:17, 0:10:21]: So what we have next is our uh due council and uh [0:10:22, 0:10:27]: So we're gonna swear then in. Olivia forgot to pronounce that duck. [0:10:29, 0:10:35]: She's she's not here? Oh okay. How about uh Caleb? [0:10:35, 0:10:36]: Caitlin is here. [0:10:37, 0:10:40]: Yeah, yes. That's good. [0:10:44, 0:10:45]: All right. [0:10:47, 0:10:47]: I didn't [0:10:48, 0:10:50]: If I got a plow swipe, Aiden? [0:10:50, 0:10:50]: Aiden? Yeah. [0:10:51, 0:10:52]: Okay, it's up there. [0:10:57, 0:10:58]: Marcus? [0:10:59, 0:11:00]: All right. [0:11:04, 0:11:09]: Sailor. Sailor, excuse me. Sailor. [0:11:14, 0:11:29]: Now this is uh this is pretty unique because of all the years that I've actually swore in you council members, normally it's more ladies, young ladies and guys. So so I mean, I the guys are stepping up this time. I appreciate you young men. [0:11:29, 0:11:44]: That's outstanding. Okay? So here's what I'm gonna do. Uh and I guess once again this uh Miss Duck is not here, right? Yeah, I'll leave you over there. Okay, all right. So we're gonna do I'm gonna ask you to raise your right hand, okay? [0:11:45, 0:11:49]: And I'm gonna I'm gonna uh try to take a small little snippet so no one can repeat after me. [0:11:50, 0:11:52]: All right. So I and a state your name. [0:11:52, 0:12:12]: I Caleb Akers. Okay. Do solemnly swear. Do solemnly swear. That I will support. That I will support. Uphold and defend. Uphold and defend. The Constitution of the United States of America. Of the United States of America. And the laws thereof. The laws thereof. That I will support. That I will support. Uphold and defend. Uphold and defend the Constitution. The Constitution. [0:12:12, 0:12:32]: And laws of the state of Georgia. And laws of the state of Georgia. Not inconsistent. Not inconsistent therewith. Therewith. That I will observe and obey the laws. And obey the laws. And ordinances. And ordinances. So the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. Of the city of Starkbridge, Georgia. That it will faithfully perform and discharge the duties. And discharge the duties. [0:12:32, 0:12:52]: Incumbent upon me incumbent upon me as a member of the city of Stockbridge Youth Council. As a city of Stockbridge Youth Council. Fairly and honestly. Fairly and honestly. And to the best of my skill. And to the best of my skill. And ability. And ability. So help me God. So help me God. It's 11th day of August 2025. Congratulations. [0:12:52, 0:13:08]: Okay. Congratulations. Okay. So uh everybody's got a sign at least tw uh twice, okay? So let's see here. This uh one second [0:13:11, 0:13:20]: Sila, this is this is yours. Did anybody w anybody wanna say anything also? If you wanna say anything, Sila, this is yours. I need to sign this as well. [0:13:20, 0:13:20]: [812.9, 819.3]: Uh do you mind if I say something? Okay. Uh you're are you you or Calebs. [0:13:39, 0:13:47]: You're not you're not Aiden Aiden? That's you. Okay. So here's your your two you you want so yeah, sir, if you wanna say something. [0:13:48, 0:14:04]: Um thank I would like to say thank you for this opportunity and uh just everyone being so kind, even with me being for the first meeting, and I'd like to let everyone know that um it's gonna be a great year. Uh thank you again for the opportunity. [0:14:11, 0:14:15]: Okay, this is both yours, sir, Mr. Sellers. Okay. [0:14:20, 0:14:21]: That two. [0:14:22, 0:14:42]: And Kalu? Okay. So you just spoke already. Did you need to you want to say anything? The mic is yours, you would like. Okay. See that? Oh, go ahead. Hi. Um, I would like to say thank you for this opportunity. I'm excited to see the growth um among me and my peers, and I'm just very excited to see the change that we can. [0:14:42, 0:14:44]: [885.0, 886.8]: [0:14:47, 0:14:50]: Thank you. Miss Vanessa, please. I I need your assistance for a second. [0:14:53, 0:14:58]: Uh Marcus? Yes sir. Okay. Um [0:14:59, 0:15:00]: Oh. [0:15:06, 0:15:07]: Yeah. [0:15:10, 0:15:30]: And we're gonna advisor members to speak as well. Sure, if they'd like to do that. Okay, so while they're signing their um pledges, I just want to say as the chair of the Stockford Youth Council, parents thank you for letting us uh mentor and mow your children. We are so proud and so happy that they took the challenge. [0:15:30, 0:15:35]: She even sign up to be a part of the Chaco June Council? [0:15:35, 0:15:55]: We're gonna see you talking. We're gonna get him next too. Um, so this is um part of the council, but um one of the ladies up here is definitely um important because she actually is the the student liaison. So she's uh she has first hand at molding I. [0:15:55, 0:16:08]: children and you're making making sure that they become leaders. You know, they probably are already leaders, but we just want to perfect that. Um so that's um Miss Sharika Zellas and this is the Vice Chair of the Youth Council, Miss Aisha Gamble. [0:16:10, 0:16:13]: So I'm gonna pass the mic to them so they can say something as well. [0:16:17, 0:16:37]: Um, so I just, you know, mirror everything that Renee said. Thank you guys so much for the opportunity. Um, I think this is gonna be a great group. Um, I'm super excited, but I'm excited every year, just so we're clear. Um, but I'm excited for the work they're gonna do. I'm excited to bring some new faces to the youth council. If you guys know any other [0:16:37, 0:16:57]: high school students within, you know, Stockbridge city limits who go to schools within the city of Stockbridge. We are still in recruitment season. We have a couple of more seats. The youth council is only 15 students. So, you know, it is a small group, but it is a mighty group. So we still have a couple of seats to fill and we'll keep [0:16:56, 0:17:16]: the application open until those are full. Um and then anybody who applies wants to cease or feel we will still keep their applications on file for when we open back up to have spaces. So again if you guys have any questions or need anything we'll be in the back we'll be around or of course we also have um miss Cassandra works with us [0:17:16, 0:17:26]: works with us she's always at the city and then miss um vanessa as well so they'll be able to get you in contact with any of us if you have any questions about the youth council. Thank you guys so much. We appreciate it. [0:17:27, 0:17:35]: And want to acknowledge like to acknowledge Representative Sandra Scott for being here uh to support uh also as well. [0:17:37, 0:17:44]: And since I've knowledge did you want to say anything at all, ma'am? You good? [0:17:45, 0:17:47]: Yes. Um good evening. Um [0:17:49, 0:17:51]: Uh huh. [0:17:53, 0:18:13]: Good evening. I'm State Representative Sandra G. Scott and I serve District 76 in Clayton County. But I'm just so glad to be here today to witness this, uh, to witness you all becoming youth um youth um youth counsel members. [0:18:13, 0:18:33]: I want you all to notice a lot of work to be done, and I'm looking forward to the great things that you are going to do to bring change here in Stockbridge. And please invite other youth to come out. It is so important that we get youth involved in the political process and how they can make [0:18:32, 0:18:52]: make change and how they can make a difference in the community in which they live. So I'm so happy to see that you all have thought of yourself to give back to your community. And I'm looking forward to see what you all are doing here in Henry County in Stockbridge. Thank you. [0:18:52, 0:18:55]: Yeah. [0:18:57, 0:19:02]: So we're gonna we're gonna take a picture. Yeah, come on down with us. [0:19:03, 0:19:04]: Well you want it. [0:19:10, 0:19:13]: Right? I just want to go. [0:19:16, 0:19:18]: They would be saying that. [0:19:20, 0:19:21]: [1170.6, 1174.8]: Fantastic. So good? [0:19:35, 0:19:40]: Did you get one more? I think she did it. Oh wait, I'm gonna get one. [0:19:45, 0:19:48]: [1192.1, 1195.6]: Ready running for all of them. [0:19:58, 0:20:05]: Thank you. So you've got to give no problem. You've got to give these to the must other mess. [0:20:06, 0:20:08]: [1216.6, 1223.1]: Okay. Okay. So moment thank you, Messiah. [0:20:24, 0:20:40]: No, so we can leave it because she didn't have to be a little bit more. I have to do that. [0:20:59, 0:21:01]: Ladies and gentlemen, we need to get a meeting in our way. [0:21:39, 0:21:40]: Come on back. [0:22:00, 0:22:00]: Yeah. [0:22:02, 0:22:06]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's get the meeting underway. Council, come back to the dial, so we can get started, please. [0:22:15, 0:22:18]: [1344.2, 1346.5]: All right, uh let's see here. [0:22:27, 0:22:31]: I have now seven twenty-five. [0:22:32, 0:22:36]: And I'd like to call our council meeting for August eleventh to order. [0:22:37, 0:22:38]: Invocation. [0:22:39, 0:22:41]: Invocation, Mr. Alexander, sir. [0:22:43, 0:22:45]: Please stand if you can. [0:22:47, 0:22:48]: Yeah. [0:22:56, 0:22:57]: On you, sir. [0:22:57, 0:23:17]: Everyone bow your heads, please. In the mighty and masculinous name of Jesus, everyone, look deep inside your soul. In this council, I ask you to do the same, to lead the city with guidance and vision and an equal opportunity for everyone out there to thrive. [0:23:17, 0:23:37]: To prosper and to understand and doing the best will and will and to have your way. Looking into the future, only you can see what we can't see. But we trust your guiding hand and your covering for the city of Stockbridge, and we understand that the best days are yet to come. [0:23:37, 0:23:57]: And we will do our act in your will in your way. Amen. Amen. Now for pledge of allegiance, a pledge allegiance to the United States of America. And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, individual, with liberty and justice for all. [0:23:57, 0:23:58]: Madam Clerk. [0:23:59, 0:24:00]: Good evening, everyone. [0:24:02, 0:24:03]: Mayor Ford. Present. [0:24:04, 0:24:08]: Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Present. Councilmember Thomas. [0:24:15, 0:24:20]: Okay. Councilmember Berry? Present. Council Member Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. [0:24:20, 0:24:26]: Present. Be accorded, we have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:24:26, 0:24:45]: So move. Okay, is there a second? From Ms. Gantt to Mr. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, earlier part of the day we had a ceremonial review and a proclamation was issued to um Miss Georgia USA US excuse me international Sakari Valentine. [0:24:45, 0:25:05]: It's fantastic to have her here. She act actually is a uh resident of Stockbridge. So it was wonderful to have her here and we issue that proclamation. Which is great to see because in the last [0:25:05, 0:25:13]: For several years has been mostly young ladies. So I'm glad to see some young men on the council here as well. On that note, um, Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? [0:25:14, 0:25:18]: Mayor Ford, we do have a public comment, Mr. Robert Schul. [0:25:18, 0:25:38]: Okay. As it comes forward, uh public comments. All persons wishing to speak for a public comment must sign in the city clerk prior to the beginning of the meeting. You must sign your name, address, and phone number. You'll be able to address the mayor and council for three minutes. Speakers must respect all members of the elected body, officials and staff. Definition, unruliness, or swearing. [0:25:38, 0:25:44]: Sir, your name and address, please. [0:25:45, 0:25:52]: Yes, sir. Robert Schul. My address is two fifty three Shields Road here in Stockbridge. Okay, go right here, sir. [0:25:52, 0:26:12]: My concern is the uh speeding on Shields Road, which I've been brought up before. Um I had taken some pictures of the burnout marks that they're doing now down that road as a drag strip and I sent it to uh Councilwoman Barber. Um still haven't got anything. I asked for speed humps. [0:26:12, 0:26:24]: to try to slow it down. Um I'm hoping that somebody can get back with me on this um and get this resolved because it's a p safety issue on that street at this point. [0:26:24, 0:26:35]: Okay, thank you. Um Ms. Sean. Okay. We'll pet make note of that, sir. We'll we'll we'll work on that. Thank you. Thank you. Uh-huh. All right, any other comments? [0:26:40, 0:26:40]: Okay. [0:26:41, 0:26:43]: Саланки бомані. [0:26:43, 0:26:44]: Okay. [0:26:53, 0:26:56]: Name and address please. My name is Shalan K. Balmani. [0:26:56, 0:27:00]: Sixty eight twenty five Saginaw Drive in Rex, Georgia. [0:27:01, 0:27:19]: Right, please. Okay. Greetings, Mayor and Council members and community. Um excuse me. I represent Black Money Movement, which is a marketing firm uh that is deeply rooted in um the African American community. We [0:27:20, 0:27:26]: Work to uplift black owned businesses that represent Black excellence, entrepreneurship, and community. [0:27:26, 0:27:28]: Empowerment. [0:27:28, 0:27:36]: One of our major initiatives is a business directory that connects consumers directly to these establishments. [0:27:36, 0:27:42]: I'm here tonight to inform you of our upcoming signature event, the African Gala. [0:27:43, 0:27:50]: Happening on September twenty sixth, twenty twenty five at the Merlmanders Conference Center in Stockbridge. [0:27:50, 0:28:10]: This cultural and economic celebration will include four scenes, a conversation with powerful speakers, a vibrant African inspired fashion show, a dinner featuring East and West African cuisines, and concluding with a festive. [0:28:10, 0:28:28]: Dance. The event ticket price is$75 per person. We are currently seeking sponsors, vendors, and community support. And I would like to formally invite each of you to attend. [0:28:29, 0:28:41]: Mayor, I would especially like to invite you to be one of the speakers for the event. Um if there are um organizations or individuals you recommend I share this information with. [0:28:42, 0:28:44]: I would uh greatly appreciate it. [0:28:44, 0:28:52]: Appreciate the guidance. Um, I'm happy to speak to anyone after this event or this meeting. Thank you. Thank you. [0:28:52, 0:29:00]: And our our assistant took note of that. Okay. Go ahead, please. Appreciate you. Thank you. Anybody else? [0:29:00, 0:29:18]: Okay. All right, great. Thank you. Uh Council, before you have adoption of the minutes, uh the June sixteenth, twenty twenty-five council special call meeting, July fifteenth, twenty twenty-five council meeting minutes, and also July twenty-ninth, council works at session meeting minutes. And need your um motion to approve those minutes, please. [0:29:22, 0:29:23]: So moved. Is there a second? [0:29:25, 0:29:36]: Ms. Barber seconds that from Miss uh Gantt to Miss Barber, all in favor, please indicate. Okay, approval. All approved. Okay. Um [0:29:41, 0:29:48]: Is it I there I all in favor of the minutes? Councilman Thomas, she's asked to be a little bit of a little bit of a [0:29:55, 0:29:55]: Can't hear. [0:30:02, 0:30:02]: I'm sorry. [0:30:03, 0:30:08]: I did call for vote order. All all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [0:30:08, 0:30:10]: And I got it all affirmed up here. [0:30:10, 0:30:11]: All four. [0:30:15, 0:30:35]: Thank you. All right. What we have next, ladies and gentlemen, is a public hearing. We've got three different public hearings, three different issues uh to cover tonight. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go through initially go through the public hearing rules to cover all three, and we're gonna go through and what I see here, Mr. Ryan, you have uh you have all three of these you'll be presenting. [0:30:35, 0:30:38]: uh but they are they're actually are uh [0:30:39, 0:30:46]: Yeah, one's uh two of district four and one's uh uh city wide. So let me go through the public hearing rules at this point. [0:30:47, 0:31:07]: Please mute all cell phones and other electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant and the representative regarding the proposed plans for property along with and any [0:31:07, 0:31:18]: other relevant information. The counsel will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. [0:31:18, 0:31:25]: East side will be allowed ten minutes total. Excuse me, additional time will be extended at the discretion of the council. [0:31:25, 0:31:45]: Please keep comments, presentation, professional referring professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. We'll not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. Please refrain from the applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer. [0:31:45, 0:32:05]: And never to the members of the council, staff, or the audience. All comments will be made from the podium where you will be required to state your name and address for the record. Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and a building by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than [0:32:05, 0:32:25]: Than once the applicant may reserve part or of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire 10 minutes allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions andor concerns. A second for the motion, and we have [0:32:25, 0:32:45]: Any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for a vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. First item for the public hearing deals with the text amendment case TX 2025-01 Council District 4. This is a second reading. Council consideration of text amendment to amend title. [0:32:45, 0:33:05]: twelve Unified Development Code, Section 2.5.3E and Section 2.5.3 F of the City Stockbridge Code of Ordinances relating to the downtown village, DT overlay district, so as to add certain uses to the list of special use requiring a special use permit and to remove certain uses from the list. [0:33:05, 0:33:19]: of prova uh prohibitive uses to allow them to now be permitted uses, provided that the certain requirements are met to provide for severe urgency severe severe ability to repeal conflicting ordinances [0:33:19, 0:33:39]: To provide an effective date for all uh per other purposes. Mr. Anderson, please. Uh good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh Mayor, since this is the um second reading and for the sake of time, I'll just give a brief summary and then we can go into the public hearing. Okay. We uh we did the first reading at the council work session two weeks ago. Okay. [0:33:44, 0:33:55]: Once again, here's a um a map of the downtown village overlay district shown in the um in the lilac color in the PMU which it abuts is shown in the la um in lavender. [0:33:57, 0:33:59]: You can't hear me? Oh, sorry, buddy. Okay. [0:34:00, 0:34:02]: Okay. Um [0:34:04, 0:34:24]: The location of the downtown village overlay district. It mainly consists of the historic city of Stockbridge area and it also includes some adjacent parcels. The DTV, the DTV overlay district regulations shall take precedence over the regulations of all other districts, including the base zoning districts and [0:34:24, 0:34:32]: Any other type of overlay district. The requirements of this district are not intended to apply existing single-family residences. [0:34:34, 0:34:54]: Uh the purpose of the downtown village overlay district is to recognize and affirm the function of the existing traditional downtown as the central focus of commercial, artesian, and civic activities within the community. Two, to allow the existing downtown to flourish, intensify, and expand where wherever it may be appropriate in a manner that is consistent with [0:34:54, 0:35:01]: its traditional character. Three, to provide a local retail, service, artesian, and civic center for the community. [0:35:03, 0:35:06]: Here's the current regulations of the downtown overlay district. [0:35:08, 0:35:20]: Um all permitted uses within the downtown district, residential units which are located above floors and on the rear of commercial and office uses. [0:35:24, 0:35:37]: Special uses, current special uses in the overlay district includes uh bed and breakfast establishment, multi-family residential, passenger depots, and transit shelter, uh, single family residences. [0:35:40, 0:35:44]: Proposed changes by the recommended by the planning and zoning staff includes [0:35:46, 0:36:06]: Well here's a summary of our other ch of the changes we're proposing. We're we're we're proposing to amend title twelve of of the UDC section two point five point three E and Section two point five three L for the downtown village overlay to accomplish the following. Number one, add certain uses to the list of special uses requiring a special permit. So basically [0:36:06, 0:36:26]: Basically, what we're doing is taking certain permitted uses, things that are already allowed by right, and making them governed by a special use permit. This will give council more discretion over what is being allowed downtown. Number two, remove certain uses from the list of prohibited uses and allow them to now be permitted uses, provided that they meet certain requirements. [0:36:26, 0:36:46]: Requirements. Reasons for this text amendment: businesses are interested in locating certain uses in the DTV overlay district, but they are not currently allowed. Such uses are already allowed within the adjacent Parkway mixed-use overlay district, which abuts the downtown district along North Henry Boulevard. Proposed actions replace [0:36:46, 0:36:52]: Remove and replace the existing existing section 2.53E and section 2.53F. [0:36:58, 0:37:18]: So all special uses that's provided in the downtown district, uh bed and breakfast establishments, gasoline station, minor automobile service repair maintenance centers, car washes, convenience stores, and other associated uses. Note these uses are already allowed in the downtown village overlay district, but now we're proposing [0:37:18, 0:37:38]: That they require a special use permit. Like I previously mentioned, this will give council more discretion over these particular uses. Also, it would allow multifamily residential buildings. We need this option so that we can develop the city-owned property downtown that is that's adjacent to City Hall. Because currently we can't develop that mixed-use project because apartment. [0:37:38, 0:37:52]: Farmers aren't allowed downtown. Also, it would add passenger depots and transit shelters, restaurants, takeout establishments, banks and pharmacies with drive-through windows and single family residence. This is what we're proposing to add. [0:37:56, 0:38:06]: Um, list of requirements for special use per uses. A special use must be located on a property which has frontage on either a collector or an arterial road, as is classified f [0:38:07, 0:38:27]: By the Georgia Department of Transportation or the Henry County Department of Transportation. The property must have a base zoning district which allows such uses. All property designs of the base standard of the base zoning district must be met. All existing nonconforming structures may not be enlarged. Building facades on both for both primary and accessory structures. [0:38:27, 0:38:30]: must be constructed of brick on all sides. [0:38:34, 0:38:54]: Um at gasoline stations that are allowed in the DT, in the DTV overlay district with a special use permit, must have an equal number of electric charging stations as gas pumps must be provided on site. Covered canopies must be provided over gas pump and electric charging stations. All acceptable means of of access. [0:38:54, 0:39:05]: And internal circulation must be provided to be determined by the fire marshal. The required number of parking spaces must be provided. The required buffers must be provided. [0:39:06, 0:39:26]: Uh the current and proposed, well, the new proposed list of prohibited uses in the downtown village overlay district. Uh number one, adult entertainment establishment, boarding and rooming homes, including personal care homes, catering establishment, child and adult daycare centers, consignment and thrift stores. [0:39:26, 0:39:46]: Family daycare homes, payday loan, title loan, and money exchange establishment, places of worship, public and private schools and related facilities, tobacco and vape shop, tattoo and piercing studios, extended stay, motels and hotels. I mentioned personal care homes earlier, but it [0:39:46, 0:40:01]: It's um part of four and six, so we just added it again at number thirteen, so we can be clear on that, that personal care homes will not be allowed in the downtown village overlay district. Um and staff recommend approval for these changes. [0:40:02, 0:40:03]: Mm. [0:40:05, 0:40:08]: Okay, council any questions or concerns for writing, please? [0:40:10, 0:40:20]: Several. So this affects my district. The downtown area is within City Council District Four. It's the district that I represent. [0:40:21, 0:40:24]: I know that it is a district that is uh [0:40:24, 0:40:30]: has high interests from our councilmates, investors and everyone else. [0:40:30, 0:40:34]: I want to make sure that we grow our downtown. [0:40:34, 0:40:38]: Ам, со да і локс лил тrivни downтоwn. [0:40:39, 0:40:41]: На компотион ви [0:40:41, 0:40:43]: А лата диффер. [0:40:44, 0:40:52]: One of the questions I have though, I saw the restricted uses. You have um vape shops and tobacco shops. [0:40:53, 0:41:00]: But I don't see tattoo parlors, I don't see nail salons, I don't see barber shops. [0:41:00, 0:41:06]: hookah bars, hair salons, storage facilities, and gasoline shops. [0:41:07, 0:41:09]: I know that there are distance requirements. [0:41:09, 0:41:10]: Um [0:41:10, 0:41:12]: In the is it the overlay districts? [0:41:13, 0:41:15]: That has the distance requirement. [0:41:15, 0:41:20]: The op the uh the dist the distance requirement is citywide. Okay. Citywide. [0:41:20, 0:41:35]: Okay. Well what I want to make sure is that we don't have an over saturation of those businesses. Yes. The ones that I just named. Mm-hmm. So in our downtown. So this list that you have here, I want to make sure that you include [0:41:35, 0:41:37]: Tattoo parlors. It's on the list. [0:41:37, 0:41:40]: Where is that? I put it back. Okay. What about mill salons? [0:41:41, 0:41:45]: Nell Salon's there it's governed by the um the distance requirement. [0:41:47, 0:41:52]: I still would like for you to include it in this list here. Is there a problem with you including it? [0:41:53, 0:41:55]: Mm, no but w um [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: Okay. I'd like to include [0:41:58, 0:42:01]: Nelsons, barbershops. [0:42:01, 0:42:05]: Hookah. Do you have hookah lounges or hookah bars on here? [0:42:05, 0:42:18]: uh tobacco and vape shops. Not not specific who cares lawns, storage facilities, and gas stations. We don't need another gas station in our downtown. And at convenience stores. [0:42:19, 0:42:19]: Okay. [0:42:20, 0:42:21]: We don't need another convenience store. [0:42:24, 0:42:31]: The other um question I have though with the map, can you go to that map again? Um [0:42:32, 0:42:33]: Rest. [0:42:35, 0:42:40]: I know that the DDA map does not include Stockbridge. Um [0:42:41, 0:42:53]: Lakes bed and breakfasts, it should. It's the only business that's left outside of the DDA boundaries. But I like to include Stockbridge Lakes Bed and Breakfast. [0:42:53, 0:43:00]: In this map as well. Okay, this is the the overlay uh district is separate from the uh the DDA map. I know. Okay. I know. [0:43:01, 0:43:08]: Okay. I'm just adding all of this for the record. Okay. However you can make this work, Mr. Edmondson. [0:43:09, 0:43:10]: Um [0:43:14, 0:43:21]: So I wanna ask though, what's driving this request? All of a sudden it came forward. Curious to know. The city owns three acres across the street. [0:43:22, 0:43:24]: And currently can be developed. [0:43:24, 0:43:27]: Because apartments aren't allowed in a downtown village overlay district. [0:43:28, 0:43:43]: That's one of the main factors behind that. Other than that, it's just uh good long range planning strategy by the department taking a proactive step, trying to improve downtown and to encourage the right types of uses in downtown. That's the aim of it. [0:43:44, 0:43:45]: So we are [0:43:46, 0:43:50]: So you're asking us to approve a text amendment to accommodate [0:43:51, 0:43:52]: that proposed development. [0:43:53, 0:43:55]: I don't support it. I won't support it. [0:43:56, 0:44:01]: Those three acres um are better suited for green space, perhaps to fifteen acres. [0:44:02, 0:44:08]: What I don't like is if a proposal is submitted to us and if it does not fit [0:44:08, 0:44:11]: our current standards or requirements here. [0:44:12, 0:44:14]: I'd rather us not try to make things fit. [0:44:15, 0:44:17]: to accommodate the proposals. [0:44:18, 0:44:28]: But nonetheless, I want to make sure that I'm on record with all of those other restrictions that you don't have on your list. This is my district. It affects [0:44:28, 0:44:30]: Residents and other businesses in the area. [0:44:31, 0:44:32]: And I don't want to [0:44:33, 0:44:34]: Saturate. [0:44:35, 0:44:36]: The downtown. [0:44:36, 0:44:38]: That's supposed to be a special [0:44:38, 0:44:56]: district for entertainment, for dining and other recreational activities. Um so those are my comments. Another thing we're trying to do, we have s of a downtown um study or plan that has several recommendations and um [0:44:58, 0:45:15]: some of the some of the um suggestions in that study, um conflicts with the current UDC, some of the recommendations from that from that study. So we're just trying to clear that up that up so that we can properly implement that study and the and the recommendations from that study. [0:45:15, 0:45:21]: So will you be making other recommendations to us for the fifteen acres the city owns as well? [0:45:21, 0:45:22]: Which fifteen acres? [0:45:23, 0:45:28]: The ones at the corner of Rock Quarry and North Henry, behind the Sherwin Williams. [0:45:28, 0:45:39]: Um I'm not sure. Uh w we probably will get to it, but I'm not sure right now. But more than likely we'll look at it. We'll we'll definitely take a look at it, but I'm not sure what type of recommendations we'll make. [0:45:40, 0:45:45]: Okay, I want to, if I may ask, um, because Mr. Edmondson [0:45:46, 0:45:48]: If you don't mind, sir. I know that [0:45:48, 0:45:51]: I wanna know, have you taken a look at this at all? [0:45:56, 0:46:06]: Because I wanna make a recommendation that we table this to continue the discussions, um, to allow you some time to review this if you had not. [0:46:07, 0:46:27]: Um yes ma'am, I have. Um and we had uh small discussion about it. Uh it is my understanding that this was kind of presented uh to also be coming into alignment to the comprehensive plan that we have uh on file right now. Um and also to your concern about those particular items, i.e. [0:46:27, 0:46:47]: convenience stores, etc. The council has the ability to implement a moratorium. And what that allows is in case one do come and apply for a license, if we don't change anything, right, they can actually apply for those licenses. And then what you can do is you could do a moratorium. A moratorium can be up to six months where we go out and study the impact [0:46:47, 0:47:07]: of those type of stores that are prohibited or that falls not le neatly in this particular uh ordinance and that gives us the ability to do some research on it and come back and and and give our recommendation. Um so I I like I said I had glanced over it, they know the history of this where we at. Um I see this in alignment, but [0:47:07, 0:47:25]: Of of course that's up to the government authority to decide whether or not what you will allow it or not. But I did take a look at it initially and uh Mr. Anderson did explain to me the reason why this was to try to come more in in alignment not only with the comprehensive plan, but also the UDC. Correct? Yes, sir. Yep. [0:47:25, 0:47:26]: Mm. [0:47:27, 0:47:29]: Uh um [0:47:31, 0:47:32]: I think we need to have some more [0:47:33, 0:47:33]: In depth. [0:47:34, 0:47:36]: Discussions regarding this. [0:47:36, 0:47:42]: I know our retreat is in September. Perhaps that may be a better time for us to continue discussing this. [0:47:43, 0:47:46]: So I'll wait and I'll yield to my councilmates, but I [0:47:47, 0:47:52]: want to suggest that we table this until then. This is in my district. [0:47:52, 0:47:53]: Thank you. [0:47:54, 0:47:57]: Ms. Oh m Ms. I'm sorry. Thank you. [0:47:57, 0:48:17]: Thank you, Mayor. Um, I'm in favor of this, and I'm gonna there's several reasons why. We've been talking about this for years. Um the LCI was done way before any of us was on Mayor and Council. It was part of the plan, it is on the plan, and it's um part mixed use development. Um I'm also in favor [0:48:17, 0:48:26]: I'm not in favor of eliminating a convenience store, the right type of convenience store in a mixed use development. And what I mean by that is [0:48:27, 0:48:47]: Um the downtown area, if you've ever been to an Avalon or if you've been to Atlantic Station or if you've been to Trilleth down in um Fayetteville, there is a a lot of mixed use buildings with living up top, commercial down below. Now we do have some areas now, thank goodness. [0:48:47, 0:49:07]: Over on the bridges of Jodico. That could be a great example of what we're trying to do in our downtown. Downtown, a goal of ours is live, work, and play environment. This is nothing new. We just need to move the needle forward. We've been planning this for years. We've been planning this before 2020. [0:49:07, 0:49:27]: 2013. We've been planning this in 2010 when they did the vision of it with the LCI plan with the amphitheater, their splash pads, your art center, your community center. All of this is coming into play. And so to be able to do what we planned for so many years. [0:49:27, 0:49:47]: We have to start implementing the groundwork and rules to go by that. And these conditions are perfect for what we're wanting. What we're saying is if we get a mixed-use development, which we are working on, and developer there is a a a developer, I believe, that is interested, or developers. [0:49:47, 0:49:54]: that may be interested in creating this downtown that we've planned out, that's been planned for a very long time. [0:49:54, 0:49:55]: That [0:49:56, 0:50:00]: These are the things that we want to exclude in our downtown area. [0:50:01, 0:50:17]: Um, as you heard from our city manager, he has been brought up to par on to what the plans are. We have this in place and I don't think this is the proper time to keep kicking the can down the road. I think that it's time for us to start some of the groundwork. [0:50:18, 0:50:38]: On what we're trying to do for this development. And if you haven't heard, then I'm here to let you know that in the past, and some this is something I'm really, really proud of. In the past, you would ask young adults, those who are just graduating from high school, if they wanted to come back and live and [0:50:38, 0:50:46]: Stockbridge? And the answer was no. They're going off and they're moving to another city, they're moving to another state, but they weren't coming back home. [0:50:46, 0:50:49]: I'm proud to say that we were at a dinner. [0:50:49, 0:51:09]: Um one night and we had a young urban professional and we've had some other young urban professionals who are saying Stockbridge is the place to be. They're moving and shaking and they want to come home. But they also we also have to provide that home type of environment that they're looking for. And that environment is the live, work and play environment. [0:51:09, 0:51:29]: That we plan on providing. That includes the restrictions that Mr. Anderson just provided to us. And those restrictions, minus the convenience store. And the reason why I say minus a convenience store, I've been down to Trilleth and Avalon and different places where you go when you live in that environment. [0:51:29, 0:51:49]: You need a a store to go to, right? If if I'm living across the street and I just happen to, you know, need a first aid kit, or I just happen to want something to drink, um, uh Coke or whatever, and there's a store within my my community, then I want to be able to go. [0:51:49, 0:52:04]: go walk right there and get it. So I don't want to eliminate the ability to have a convenience store, ice cream store shops and and or not even a an hair salon within [0:52:04, 0:52:24]: a community, a spa, right? You don't want you you don't want to make it so restrictive, but you want to make rules and regulations by it. So a specific, you know, they'll have to come to us and ask permission and we can add on different conditions as as we see fit, as we deem fit, the way it should look. [0:52:24, 0:52:44]: Look, right? Those type of restrictions. However, in addition to that, um we mentioned vape shops and hookah shop. I don't know if we're saying shops or bars, but what I can let you know is is that I I'm not for hookahs, let me just say that. But people in in [0:52:44, 0:53:04]: In those type of environments, in the club environment, if there's a cigar bar or lounge within that environment, depending and making it as nice and as strict as possible as far as ambiance is concerned, those type of things should be allowed in our downtown area because that district has an open container district. [0:53:04, 0:53:24]: It is kind of it it will be an entertainment district. And I need us to kind of open our eyes and broaden our thought process on having young urban professionals in our downtown because we don't want our community to die out. We don't want it to be a place where, you know [0:53:24, 0:53:44]: No one wants to thrive and and and live and survive. And we're making it that. And there are so many young people now that are looking, young families who are just getting married in their early 20s, 30s are saying they want to make Stockbridge home. And these are the type of environments that they want to make it in. [0:53:44, 0:54:04]: So I'm not in favor of prolonging this. I am in favor of getting it done. We have seen this before. We've seen it numerous amounts of times, and I'm ready to vote tonight. Yes. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Thank you so much. Uh the downtown vision is really brilliant and it is [0:54:04, 0:54:24]: A focus of this council and has been for the entire period that I was on here. Downtown literally died a slow death. And to see what we saw over the weekend, oh my God, to see downtown crowded with people out in the street, sitting outside, the pizza bar. [0:54:24, 0:54:36]: are overflowing with customers. Frozen Smoke got customers. The downtown social got customers. Showtime got customers. That hasn't happened. What we're doing is working, is showing the right course. [0:54:37, 0:54:57]: And I will stand on this amphitheater because it's driving what we're doing. As Ms. Gann has indicated, we're building an entertainment district. That's something that Henry County hasn't had before, where our young urban professionals and even senior citizens can enjoy nice music. Well, we had a tiny tent on [0:54:57, 0:54:59]: Friday and we had [0:54:59, 0:55:19]: People is sitting out there enjoying. It was a diverse mix of people sitting out enjoying our downtown. We haven't had that in years. We're on the right course. Doing and I cannot thank the proprietor of 114 Martin Luther King Senior Heritage enough and 118, which is frozen smoke. [0:55:19, 0:55:39]: Mr. Sylvan deserves a tremendous amount of credit for believing in where we're going in downtown Stockbridge. He owns both of those buildings. Now the 114 was a dilapidated mess about 18 months ago. Now it is a beautiful facility with Crown Pizza Bar in it. [0:55:39, 0:55:59]: It is outstanding and it is drawing. It is drawing as the central gathering space that we've always wanted. And as we look at the LCI across the street having the mixed use development, we've seen it. We see it every day when I drive down to Argento to Costco, when I drive down to [0:55:59, 0:56:19]: Sprouts farmers market. Those areas are thriving. You got people out there walking. You got people out there enjoying the entire event. And I'm not going to sit over here with my senior citizen self and tell young people what they don't want. And it might not be for me. I might not enjoy hookah, but somebody might like it. Somebody might like a nice [0:56:19, 0:56:39]: Cigar. That's what we do in entertainment districts. It's not for me, but it's not for me to be the person to say, oh, we're not gonna do this. We did studies. And we did, and we collected the information. We had charrettes on downtown to ask people what they wanted to see. They told us what they wanted to see. It came directly from [0:56:39, 0:56:59]: For the public, and it was put into the ULDC and the downtown village program. I don't want to get into this phase, and I hate the word, and I with all due respect, Ms. Moratoriums. I don't like that phase because we're in a position where we're in a growth phase. What we did as a city, we chose to go down the avenue of [0:56:59, 0:57:19]: Distance requirement. There's a nail shop over here, right? At the in the Food Depot Plaza. There can't be another one within a mile. It's already restricted, right? There's a barber shop right across the street. It needs to be another mile. There's one over here in the Shur and Wizard Plaza. So there can't be another one. So the distance requirement and [0:57:18, 0:57:25]: the measures are working already and as Miss Gann indicated to be overly cumbersome. [0:57:25, 0:57:45]: Sometimes business is about the math and it's about the art and the science. You don't want to put the artists in a box because you don't never know what portrait they might be painting. So anytime someone's doing a project for me and it's involving culture or art, I always like, I don't want to be too specific because I don't want to [0:57:45, 0:58:05]: kill the creativity because I will kill the creativity if I'm trying to put a square uh a round hole in a square pay in a square square box. It's not going to work. But what I'm do what I wanted to do is to we we went up to Avalon to look at what they did in Avalon. We went to the truest mixed use development. [0:58:05, 0:58:25]: Over in Cobb County. We went over to Fayetteville to see what they were doing. We wanted to see, not to see, not to copy what they were doing, but to see best in class development. We've seen that best-in-class development thrive in every area. And let me say this and let me be very clear. [0:58:25, 0:58:45]: Clear as the downtown development authority member. All of us up here have said one thing very clear. This downtown belongs to all of us. And our best interest is no city thrives without a developing downtown. And certainly, and I'm going to say this, and I and I want to say this the right way. Okay, by investing and [0:58:45, 0:58:50]: having the private sector come in, our downtown is moving forward. [0:58:50, 0:59:03]: With all due respect to my colleague, Miss Barber, she voted against every piece of measure that we move forward with up here in the downtown area. 114 would still be a city property because she did not support it. [0:59:03, 0:59:23]: These areas are more deeply than what we're doing here at City Council. They're much deeper than that. It's about the entire area and providing a gathering space. And if we got to be in a position where we're taking the vision and the direction of the community who has told us. [0:59:23, 0:59:43]: What they wanted, not our opinion, their opinions or what they wanted to see to be able to move forward with this. I'm not gonna sit up here and try to say this is what I wanna do. I wanna do what you want me to do. And be doing what you want me to do, we listen to those and gather the information that was necessary to make these projects happen. [0:59:43, 1:00:03]: It would be a transformative project if that three acres was approved and used as mixed use. We've already seen it. It's thriving over there at the bridges at Jodico in Argento. It's kicking off in the Levi that's over there in that area. People are thriving to it. Young people are coming to it. [1:00:03, 1:00:20]: Seniors well appointed or like to see it and like to be able to walk to everything. We're building the vision that you have asked us to do right here in the city. We don't want to turn it around. The property over there, Mr. Anderson, behind the subway and all of that, we voted on that. [1:00:21, 1:00:21]: Right. [1:00:22, 1:00:23]: We did. Mm-hmm. [1:00:23, 1:00:40]: We brought it on a town home community, single family, and already approved it yet on that fifteenth anchor. We're not about to rewrite what we've already done. The program has already been done and the people out there in the in the main street just told us at the last meeting. [1:00:40, 1:01:00]: They're looking for somebody to take some action. They're tired of us talking and kicking the can down the road. They want to see something happen. We hired this seasoned city manager, Mr. Edmondson, to guide us as a former Main Street person to be able to come in and develop this downtown, and that's what I'm committed to doing. Thank you. [1:01:00, 1:01:10]: Therefore. Okay. If I may. Yeah, go ahead please. Okay. I wanted to respond to a couple of comments that Councilman Alexander mentioned. [1:01:11, 1:01:16]: I don't recall opposing any developments in our downtown, however. [1:01:16, 1:01:27]: I have had strong um concerns and resistance to selling our city owned real estate properties without advertising them. I have strong [1:01:28, 1:01:31]: Opposition to selling. [1:01:31, 1:01:34]: city owned real estate properties without [1:01:34, 1:01:36]: getting them appraised. [1:01:37, 1:01:43]: I have concerns that city owned real estate properties were sold below the tax assessed values. [1:01:44, 1:01:45]: Those have been my concerns. [1:01:47, 1:01:51]: When he spoke about the vizits to Avalon. [1:01:51, 1:01:53]: I wasn't on the council. [1:01:53, 1:01:56]: When he mentioned about the council going to Trilliph. [1:01:56, 1:01:58]: I wasn't on the council. [1:01:58, 1:02:01]: So all of those visits and research that they may have done. [1:02:02, 1:02:03]: was prior to me. [1:02:03, 1:02:07]: I didn't get any I didn't get an opportunity to add any input. [1:02:07, 1:02:10]: Into whatever their vision was. [1:02:11, 1:02:15]: Twenty thirteen, whatever the vision was, I wasn't on the council. [1:02:15, 1:02:17]: I don't support crowding. [1:02:17, 1:02:20]: This three acre lot across the street from City Hall. [1:02:21, 1:02:23]: It should remain green space. [1:02:23, 1:02:26]: If you want to develop a mixed use development [1:02:27, 1:02:30]: We have fifteen the city owns fifteen acres. [1:02:30, 1:02:32]: Behind Sherman Williams. [1:02:33, 1:02:36]: All of these properties are within the city council district that I represent. [1:02:37, 1:02:39]: So everybody seems to have a whole lot of [1:02:39, 1:02:42]: um interests in my district and rightfully so. [1:02:43, 1:02:43]: I get it. [1:02:44, 1:02:45]: Rightfully so. [1:02:46, 1:02:47]: But I want us to plan it. [1:02:48, 1:02:49]: The right way. [1:02:50, 1:02:57]: If there were plans or the vision from 2013, it would have included the Rock Quarry Road extension. [1:02:58, 1:03:00]: The Rock Quarry Road extension would go from [1:03:01, 1:03:08]: the Sherwin Williams Plaza, all the way down to Old Conyers Road, where the Publix is, on East Atlanta Road. [1:03:08, 1:03:13]: But yet that project has been put on hold. It's not even on a priority list. [1:03:14, 1:03:22]: So when you talk about a vision and moving forward with the plans, move forward with all of the plans, not just half of it. [1:03:22, 1:03:25]: Infrastructure should be important. [1:03:26, 1:03:32]: Especially in this downtown area in which we all support a live work and play environment. [1:03:33, 1:03:36]: If you're going to build in a downtown area. [1:03:36, 1:03:40]: Invest more in more robes. [1:03:40, 1:03:43]: Not just maintaining what we currently have. [1:03:43, 1:03:56]: That seems to be the pattern here. Just maintaining the roads, repaving, resurfacing, fixing the sidewalks. No, we need new roads. This council has approved nine [1:03:56, 1:04:00]: Nine townhome developments in my district. [1:04:01, 1:04:05]: I I abstained from the votes on all of them. [1:04:05, 1:04:06]: Nine. [1:04:07, 1:04:08]: have been approved. [1:04:08, 1:04:11]: And they want to add this mixed use development. [1:04:11, 1:04:14]: Squeeze it on a three acre lot. [1:04:15, 1:04:16]: It doesn't make sense to me. [1:04:17, 1:04:24]: I'm the only one who is asking us to pause. Let's look at this again. [1:04:24, 1:04:34]: Let's rethink how we are moving forward with I don't know whose vision this is, but let's think about how we're moving forward with um realizing [1:04:35, 1:04:37]: A planned vision for our downtown. [1:04:38, 1:04:40]: That's what I'm asking for in the district. [1:04:40, 1:04:41]: That I represent. [1:04:42, 1:04:43]: In the district. [1:04:43, 1:04:46]: That the residents elected me to represent. [1:04:47, 1:04:48]: The business owners [1:04:48, 1:05:01]: They they want to make sure that they have um access to all uh potential clients coming in. They want to make sure that there's parking, adequate sidewalks. [1:05:01, 1:05:07]: All of that and we make we need to make sure that we have the infrastructure in place for it all. [1:05:08, 1:05:09]: I wanna see. [1:05:10, 1:05:11]: This council [1:05:11, 1:05:14]: prioritizing infrastructure. [1:05:15, 1:05:22]: New infrastructure, not just maintaining what we currently have, as it pertains to convenience stores. [1:05:23, 1:05:23]: Right here. [1:05:24, 1:05:25]: on Rockware Road. [1:05:26, 1:05:28]: There are two convenience stores right on the corner. [1:05:29, 1:05:31]: Right on the corner of Rock Quarry in North Henry. [1:05:32, 1:05:33]: In fact it's [1:05:34, 1:05:36]: One of them, the happy market. [1:05:36, 1:05:42]: It's right next to the fifteen acres that the city owns. There's a new one. There's a new one right across the street from it. [1:05:44, 1:05:45]: So from here [1:05:45, 1:05:51]: To right here at the corner of North Henry Rock Quarry Road, two convenience stores. Not to mention [1:05:52, 1:05:53]: There's also a c a food mark [1:05:54, 1:05:55]: Right down the street. [1:05:56, 1:05:57]: On East Atlanta Road. [1:05:57, 1:06:04]: across from Gardner Park. So there's no shortage of convenience stores. I know my district very well. [1:06:05, 1:06:06]: We don't need another convenience door here. [1:06:08, 1:06:15]: So that is why I'm saying we need to rethink these plans because whatever this vision is. [1:06:15, 1:06:19]: As far as their vision for live, work and play. [1:06:19, 1:06:20]: It's not the same as mine. [1:06:21, 1:06:26]: Cause having a another convenience store in the downtown does not do anything. [1:06:26, 1:06:33]: to help with a live work and play environment when there's already three that are within two miles from each other. [1:06:34, 1:06:40]: I don't support it, not at this time. What I'm asking my councilmates to do, considering this is my district. [1:06:41, 1:06:50]: I'm asking them to allow us to have more robust discussions during our retreat in September. It's interesting that this would come forward. [1:06:50, 1:06:54]: One week after we have a нюменню ситі менеджер да старс. [1:06:54, 1:06:58]: He hasn't had the time to really delve into the details of any of this. [1:06:59, 1:07:00]: He hasn't. [1:07:00, 1:07:01]: So [1:07:01, 1:07:03]: I think that's all the comments that I have. [1:07:04, 1:07:06]: Um everything that I've said [1:07:06, 1:07:08]: Um Madam Clark. [1:07:08, 1:07:09]: It's all for the record. [1:07:10, 1:07:10]: Thank you. [1:07:11, 1:07:12]: Mr. Barrett, please. [1:07:13, 1:07:17]: Yeah, thanks mayor. I I think it's really important for us to kinda [1:07:17, 1:07:23]: take a step back and pause because I've I've kind of been on the council the least amount of time, only a year. [1:07:23, 1:07:29]: And some of the things that we have had at a lot of our retreats have been centered around the downtown development. [1:07:30, 1:07:50]: And we've seen uh plans and we've seen a whole lot of different uh ideas about what we should and what we shouldn't do in the downtown area. And I think one thing um that resounds out of each and every one of those times that we've met is that the downtown district has has been overlooked in the city of Stockbridge for a long time. [1:07:50, 1:08:07]: Long, long, long time. Uh when you poll people when you talk to the residents, the one thing that makes Stockbridge look different than the other cities in Henry County is that it's void of a downtown area that that has the culture and the character of the city. [1:08:08, 1:08:28]: And so Stockbridge being as historically significant as it is in Henry County, we need that central gathering place. Every city needs that benchmark central gathering space that people, the community comes together and galvanizes at that place. I think what everybody's saying is true. [1:08:28, 1:08:28]: [4109.0, 4119.2]: That yes, we need the development, yes, we need the mixed use, yes, we need something that's little work and play, but we also need the green space. And we also need and so they're not mutually exclusive. [1:08:40, 1:09:00]: You can have them all. I d I I don't I don't understand why we we make it as if it's either or. We can have every single one of the things that that all parties are are asking for and coming to the table to really make it the best downtown area that we can have, but there has to be a strategy about doing it. And so I I I think we got to get people. [1:08:59, 1:09:13]: past uh the positions and the points and and just opposing and trying to make, you know, the points and and listen and and hear all the contents that's being said, mix it all in a pot and make gumbo out of it. [1:09:13, 1:09:18]: and and and get the type of downtown area that everybody can have a piece of it. [1:09:19, 1:09:39]: Every piece of the culture can have a piece of it. And and when we can do that work, when we can get be beyond our own egos and our own pride and our own this is my idea and this and this and that, we can serve the people and give the people what they need. Which is a that's that's for me and my passion, that's one thing that I know when I drive down [1:09:39, 1:09:43]: down one hundred eight when I drive down this road. Where where is my downtown? [1:09:43, 1:09:53]: Where where where is that that that beacon of light that that makes hey that I'm in Stockbridge? You know when you hit that spot that I'm in Stockbridge, we need it. [1:09:54, 1:10:10]: We we we owe it to ourselves, we owe it to this council to collaborate, to communicate, to put all the ideas together and foster a sense of community that'll make everybody proud of what we have accomplished. [1:10:11, 1:10:31]: That's what this needs to be. And we don't need to be pressing pause. We need to do it quickly. That's right. Because it's been taking I've been here a year and a half and I've been waiting to see it. And it's taken too long. I don't want to have another meeting. I don't want to have another set of drawings. I don't want to see another plan. I want us to incorporate the things that she said. I want to incorporate [1:10:31, 1:10:40]: The things that they have said, and I want to put it all together and I want to see some dirt move. I am so tired of talking, and it's time for some action. [1:10:41, 1:10:50]: Please, let's let's take all of these great ideas and put'em in a cornucopia and make us a nice meal out of it and have the best downtown in the in in the south. [1:10:52, 1:10:52]: Major. [1:10:52, 1:10:53]: That's that's it. [1:10:55, 1:11:11]: One second. Okay, Miss Cant, go ahead, please. Well, um I just wanted to reiterate that and I agree with Councilman Bear. I used to always say that, um, Councilman Berry, I want to see some dirt moving. I need to see something. Let's get it moving and shaking. And um [1:11:11, 1:11:12]: I agree. [1:11:12, 1:11:13]: Um [1:11:14, 1:11:31]: We do have a plan with infrastructure. We've implemented some of those plans already. And we also have a master trail plan that actually starts in our downtown area. Um so we have a sidewalk plan, we have funding that we have implemented towards that, and we have other things. [1:11:32, 1:11:41]: you know, in the making, but it's time to get started now. Now I just want everyone to know that this just we're putting things in play [1:11:42, 1:12:02]: But that doesn't mean that we're still not w we would still be in negotiations and we would still be talking to whomever the developer would be or whatever the case may be in regards to what a building would look like and what businesses would go there. This is n this is just us saying, these are the things that we don't want in our downtown area. [1:12:02, 1:12:12]: This helps us from the ground zero surfacing part, has nothing to do with the building or anything else. I think we've gotten ahead of ourselves. [1:12:13, 1:12:31]: I wanna thank our staff. Um, I wanna thank you, Mr. Anderson, you and your team, your planning, your uh your whole team for providing us with the tools necessary to get started, to at least lay the groundwork and limit some of the things that need that we need to limit. [1:12:31, 1:12:51]: So that we can go ahead and start implementing plans and we can talk about any of those plans during the retreat. But right now, this is this is just legwork on saying what businesses can and cannot come in our downtown right now. And I am all for it if it's getting us from point A to point A and a half. But I I just need us to go. [1:12:51, 1:13:11]: To get those steps, and this is a baby step compared to some of the other things that we need to do. Um, in regards to green space, it's been again the LCI plans out for that, the RSVP plans out for that. Believe it or not, folks, some of you may or may not know this, but we have community involvement all the time. [1:13:11, 1:13:31]: We don't just sit here and make these decisions. We paid a lot of money for studies in the past. And those studies have been done in churches. Those studies have been done in our community center. Those studies have been done down at our Merrymanders. We've asked people for their input. We've asked the community for their input. We've asked organizations. We've asked commun for [1:13:31, 1:13:41]: and committees. And I'm one hundred percent with you, Councilman Berry. It's time to move the dirt. It's time to get things started. And we are ready to get started. [1:13:43, 1:14:03]: I just wanna say one thing. I just wanna uh I Miss Gantt uh kudos and thank you a round of applause'cause I I wanna see something happen, Councilman Berry so bad I don't know what to do. Every time I go to the D D A meeting I'm getting beat up. They're saying Mel m Miss Alexander, when are we gonna do something? When are we gonna do something? I go to the main street, when are we gonna do something? When are we gonna do something? [1:14:03, 1:14:03]: Yeah. [1:14:04, 1:14:23]: But I'll tell you what we did do, we spent millions of dollars on stormwater infrastructure in the amphitheater. People talk about the project, the building itself, but there's three stormwater facilities built for the expansion of downtown in the amphitheater project. So stormwater has already been taken into consideration. [1:14:24, 1:14:44]: Did you notice the three million dollars that we spent around City Hall? Did you notice the new, not just Turn Lane, the lane that extends from North Henry Boulevard all the way down to Bryant Street? That pi uh for years there was a bottleneck there where people wanted to turn right where they had to wait for [1:14:44, 1:15:04]: You know, mi uh 30 minutes to turn on a bit at a busy time or during a city event. The infrastructure is all of these street lights that you see around here and the storm water and the facilities have been added. And Mr. Edmondson has been charged with moving the downtown alleyway project forward. [1:15:04, 1:15:12]: And bringing that information back to us so we can move some dirt. And kudos, Mr. Berry. You've said it all. I don't need to say another word. Thank you. [1:15:13, 1:15:13]: Mm-hmm. [1:15:15, 1:15:27]: Make this a last comment, please, so we can move on. I'm sorry. Make we'll make this a last comment so we can move on. Okay. Go ahead. No, I wanted to ask, um, your list uh prohibited uses in the D T V [1:15:29, 1:15:35]: Um if the council is amenable to adding the additional uses that I listed. [1:15:37, 1:15:41]: And also adding as a condition of this as well. [1:15:43, 1:15:47]: Um adding the extension, the Rod Quarry Road extension. [1:15:47, 1:15:50]: to our current pro um priority list. [1:15:50, 1:15:52]: I want to see that moved forward. [1:15:52, 1:16:02]: Otherwise can't realize the true value and potentials of our downtown. I don't want us to just keep building on top of buildings and we're all just [1:16:03, 1:16:04]: Everything is just [1:16:04, 1:16:08]: Concentrated to one area. [1:16:09, 1:16:12]: Our downtown, if you're looking at the map, is expanded. [1:16:12, 1:16:13]: Beyond [1:16:14, 1:16:18]: Честі в амфатер із вифтині екс. [1:16:19, 1:16:21]: Down further where Gardner Park. [1:16:22, 1:16:33]: There's a whole lot more areas that we need to make sure that we are developing, not just the area that is central to City Hall and the Zampitheater. [1:16:35, 1:16:55]: That's all. But I want us to include all of the um uses that I mentioned to your list of prohibited uses out of this D T V overlay. So you want to add those that need to be that's a one second. You want me to list the other thing. Yes, if I may. All right. So she's making a motion for that. [1:16:54, 1:17:14]: hearing um i'm sorry after public hearing because i know i still got to do that but uh um uh mayor the the intent of of the of this um text amendment was was basically just to line up our udc our zoning ordinance with our studies that we currently have on the record so we got all these studies making [1:17:14, 1:17:34]: recommendations on different things we should do that we paid for in the past in the downtown area, but they can't be done because they conflict with the unified development code. So most of that stuff is outside of my jurisdiction as falls under economic development. So I'm just trying to line it up so they can do their job. Okay. This is a second reading. Is it I forgot, is there a third reading we need on this? Uh no, sir. [1:17:34, 1:17:54]: Okay, so otherwise the intent is after the second reading of public comments for us to vote one one way vote anyway. Yes, sir. Okay, all right, all right, good deal. All right, so if I may, I just we just want to reiterate this is being more restrictive in regards to special uses. And these items that we're talking about is actually allowing that any and everything can't be down there without [1:17:54, 1:18:14]: Going through you all to get a special use permit. So it's not open it up to any and everything, it's actually being a little bit more restrictive because things that typically wouldn't require a special use permit now is going to require a special use permit. And those are the gas stations, the automotive repair shops, car washes, convenience stores, and other associated uses. So they're going to require [1:18:14, 1:18:34]: To come to y'all for a special use. Cause right now, without us passing this ordinance, they can go tomorrow and get a license, there's nothing we can do about it. So it's actually being more restrictive. Correct. If I may, to add that in there, just to clarify. But I wanted to include some additional uses to that list of restrictions. Additional restrictive uses. [1:18:34, 1:18:37]: Is that what you're saying? Correct. On a prohibited list? [1:18:38, 1:18:58]: Uh well let's make it clear. I don't support the support with the public hearing and then we can come back and continue our discussion. And so you're saying you're trying to add to this list, ma'am, if we understand you correctly, and what was that what you were trying to say I wanted to convenience stores. This only So okay, so they will have to come get a special use permit right now if we pass this ordinance. [1:18:58, 1:19:02]: They can't get it on their own right now. They will have to come before y'all to get it. [1:19:02, 1:19:05]: I don't want them to be able to come and [1:19:05, 1:19:09]: I don't want them to have the ability to come before the council. [1:19:09, 1:19:16]: And request a special use permit. I want the distance requirement that we already have in place. [1:19:17, 1:19:28]: Right. So so for clarity, just just so you're aware, even if something is on the prohibited list, they have a the option to come before y'all anyway and request it. [1:19:28, 1:19:35]: Just because they're not on this list don't mean they can never come before this body to re request a conditional use or a special use outside of what's prohibited. [1:19:36, 1:19:38]: They always can come before the body and acts. [1:19:38, 1:19:47]: Okay, so what is the purpose of this list then? So anyone that wants to run a adult entertainment establishment, they can come before the council and ask for a special use permit? [1:19:47, 1:20:07]: They can. They don't mean it's gonna get approved, but this is right here so that day-to-day operations that we understand that these things are prohibited and therefore it flags them a process to go before a board, get the recommendation of a board, then come get staff recommendation, then ultimately come before you all to make a final decision. Well, I wanna add to this list of day-to-day operations. [1:20:07, 1:20:10]: To include convenience stores, include [1:20:11, 1:20:17]: Um nail shops, barber shops, hair salons, vate shops, storage facilities. [1:20:17, 1:20:18]: And [1:20:19, 1:20:39]: Yeah, all of those. But we'll get back to that. I want us to move forward with the public hearing and then at the end when the council will voice. And we will ask and that would be the motion. So yes, uh they already jotted it down. So what'll happen is after the public hearing it comes back and then we vote on that, then we'll make the motion with those things and then council could vote on it uh as is or with [1:20:39, 1:20:41]: With those added items. Thank you, sir. Yes, ma'am. [1:20:42, 1:20:55]: Okay, on that note, then I guess we open the public hearing. So uh anybody on in public well once again, we're in a public hearing. So anybody on the on the left side if you have any comments for what has been stated already. Comments for anybody on my left side? [1:20:56, 1:21:14]: Anybody in the middle wants to make any comments? Four. Four. Okay, come on. Why don't you line up on this side, ma'am? Just looks come on. Just line up, stand right there. Anybody on my far right, the comments four. What's been already stated thus far. Okay, come back over here. Anyone else? All right, these are four. Four. [1:21:15, 1:21:23]: Okay. Anybody else? All right. So right now it's looks like three individuals four. Come to your what's good a mic, please. Name and address. [1:21:24, 1:21:25]: And make your comments. [1:21:27, 1:21:47]: Hello, my name is Karina uh Singh. I live in one one three seven Hempel Road. Um I actually work for the city of Morrow, y'all's neighbors. So I think I have an interesting take on I guess this whole thing. Um with us, we're also trying to I guess make our downtown [1:21:47, 1:21:56]: More mixed use and uh trying to attract obviously young people into our city, and I live here so. [1:21:56, 1:22:11]: I'm a young professional. I just graduated college and I think it'd be really nice to have, you know, like bar spaces. Like I don't wanna drive all the way to like Duluth to go get drunk at a bar. And obviously I'm not, you know, going to get drunk at a bar, but [1:22:12, 1:22:15]: You know, like it's nice. Like I'm twenty two, I don't wanna be [1:22:17, 1:22:23]: all the way up there or like all the way in Fayetteville, like it'd be nice to have some spaces for young people. So [1:22:23, 1:22:29]: Stand by. Did you get her f n name? I didn't think you get her name. Which uh she needs your name, please. Yeah. Uh [1:22:29, 1:22:31]: Uh do you want me to write it? [1:22:32, 1:22:38]: You wanna write it down? You need to put it in the mic. Okay, fine, okay. All right. Next please. [1:22:41, 1:22:42]: Name and address. [1:22:45, 1:22:50]: Hello, Mayor and Council members. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to speak. [1:22:51, 1:22:58]: Um, I would like to say that as a citizen of the downtown area since nineteen ninety one. [1:22:59, 1:23:01]: We do need improvement. [1:23:01, 1:23:02]: We do. [1:23:02, 1:23:03]: However [1:23:04, 1:23:06]: I think we should be very cautionary. [1:23:07, 1:23:08]: about the way we move forward. [1:23:09, 1:23:14]: Because in my personal citizen voter view here. [1:23:15, 1:23:21]: It seems to me like we are just ramming things through in the downtown district like [1:23:21, 1:23:22]: Townhouses. [1:23:22, 1:23:24]: Apartments. [1:23:24, 1:23:27]: There are two smoke shops within two blocks right here. [1:23:28, 1:23:31]: There are one, two, three, five. [1:23:32, 1:23:36]: four, five convenience stores within one mile radius. [1:23:38, 1:23:41]: There are gas stations. [1:23:41, 1:23:45]: Out the kazoo. Tire stations. [1:23:46, 1:23:59]: Much of that looks like eyesores. And one of the newest smoke shops shops I was excited when I saw Food Mart. I thought, oh Food Mart. When I got past the the red light, it said smoke shop. [1:23:59, 1:24:09]: Food mark and s food mart and smoke shop. You know, really, really, that that's that's not a good look. It really is not a good look. [1:24:10, 1:24:30]: And I would like to ask you all to combine your ideas. You have common ground. You all have good ideas. There's nothing wrong with anything that anyone says. The conservative that wants to keep everything the same, the liberal that wants to change everything. Everybody is equally important. That's what our foundation of our [1:24:30, 1:24:32]: републік вас фоуд он. [1:24:33, 1:24:34]: Come together. [1:24:36, 1:24:37]: Get it together. [1:24:38, 1:24:40]: And I will remind you respectfully. [1:24:41, 1:25:00]: As a voter and as a citizen, you were elected to represent the will of the people. And I don't hear from a lot of people here at the city council uh coming from the downtown district. And I am speaking up on behalf of a lot of people who I am surprised that don't even know what is going on. [1:25:01, 1:25:03]: Because they are just not involved. [1:25:04, 1:25:05]: Unfortunately. [1:25:05, 1:25:06]: However [1:25:07, 1:25:08]: I respect every one of you. [1:25:09, 1:25:14]: But with due respect, you work for us, not the other way around. [1:25:16, 1:25:16]: Thank you. [1:25:18, 1:25:21]: Okay, uh next uh in in citizen name and address please. [1:25:22, 1:25:42]: Good afternoon good evening, Mayor and Council. My name is Jaden Williams, 151 Misty Ridge Trail. I'm actually the chair of your planning commission. Um, and so I work very well with Ryan and his staff in the community development. So I wanted to first uh echo the sentiments of Councilman Berry because we do have um the text amendment that's before you all, that's kind of strategic, and they worked very well in making sure that they brought that before you in a strategic. [1:25:42, 1:26:02]: Manager to make sure our city is moving towards progress. But one of the major things is also what Councilwoman Gantt said is that this is just a minor step for the major plan. And so I would also just echo the sentiments of some of our citizens that if we're going to bring these plans to the city, especially in the small acres that we have, it's just three. It's not much, but it's something that [1:26:02, 1:26:22]: That we can build a stockbridge-driven downtown, that you all come together and make sure that we can actually bring some quality and not just look at the young professionals because yes, I'm young, uh just like one of our other residents. I came back home. This is home for me. I've been here all my life. Um, I want to make sure that we also are making sure we're making young professionals involved, getting them involved, but also our current residents. [1:26:22, 1:26:31]: residents. So let's not leave them out of that plan. But I'm a thousand percent uh in agreance with this text amendment. I hope you all can vote on it this evening because the staff did an awesome job on it. Thank you. [1:26:31, 1:26:42]: All right. All right. That was four. Okay. Questions and any comments from our far left against, against anything that was been speaking this evening? Against. [1:26:42, 1:26:44]: In the middle, against [1:26:45, 1:26:52]: My far right. Anything against? All right, so we'll close that no comments, we'll close that out. So I guess uh Ryan, come back please. [1:26:52, 1:27:07]: All right, so now uh we got a um we got a um potential mo motion or uh uh amendment to the motion or addition to the m addition to what you presented, I'm sorry. So we need a we need a motion uh and we'll take it from that point. [1:27:08, 1:27:11]: So is there a motion? Yeah. Yes, sir. [1:27:13, 1:27:23]: This what I wanted to do was to go ahead and make a motion to accept the staff's recommendation. Okay. And Mr. Medmuson, will you come back to the podium? [1:27:24, 1:27:44]: Okay. And certainly you have made a strong case that and let me say this again. I don't know how we got on this that we support convenience stores. That's not what we're trying to do up here. Certainly it's not what we want to do. And and let me say this, I had that same question and I still have that same question about the Henry Mart that added the [1:27:44, 1:27:54]: the smoke shop on there'cause I see that the other day.'Cause that's not supposed to be allowed under the PMU. No vape in smoke shops are supposed to be allowed under PMU on the p on the corridor, you know. [1:27:55, 1:28:06]: Council Member, that's not uh it's not a smoke shop per se. It's a convenience store that sells tobacco products. And that's I know, but that's not but that very name indicates that like they sell vape. [1:28:06, 1:28:26]: Or not because again that name i again indicates that they fall under that category which is we have a prohibition on that along major highways. I saw that myself and I said, I don't know how they got away with that because that should not have been allowed. We might need to make them change the name because in essence that is that is [1:28:26, 1:28:46]: Yes, uh that's correct. Um we'll talk to them about changing the sign, but it's you can't go in there and smoke, you just can go in there and buy tobacco products and that's not restricted by code. Right. So if you would have that discussion with them. And uh plus we're working on legislation. I know I we keep coming up with all these legislation, but we're working on legislation. [1:28:46, 1:29:06]: To address that. Absolutely, because certainly that's one thing that I championed to keep them off of those corridors to make sure we were doing that. But this is absolutely appropriate to make sure that these uses come to us. But I don't support being restrictive in terms of the cigar bar and the and the other uses because in the hoop. [1:29:06, 1:29:26]: And all that because even though I want to enjoy it, the young people do like that. And I I don't want to restrict it and be overly restrictive with those types of measures in order to do that. So I'm uh my first inclination is to be able to say the same thing in terms of moving forward with the staff recommendations. [1:29:26, 1:29:33]: And then say nobody up here is trying to remove convenience stores, but the convenience store would have to come to us. [1:29:34, 1:29:46]: to get a special use permit if they wanted to operate under this y it's actually strengthening it to bring the convenience store to us so that no more convenience stores just pop up without coming to us, right? [1:29:46, 1:29:47]: Right. [1:29:47, 1:29:56]: Exactly. And I mentioned the moratorium because there are sometimes where there is gap in legislation where we have some fall through the crack. And if you start seeing that, [1:29:56, 1:30:16]: And trying to get everything caught up to where it's supposed to be, you have that option. I was just putting that out there in the event that some do slip through, because I understand it's a sweet spot as you start uh modifying your legislation. There's instances where things can like that can happen. You look up, you have three before you even voted on it, and you're like, wow, when that happened, because they understand that it's on the agenda, so people [1:30:16, 1:30:25]: Start moving fast. Right. So right now, basically, once we vote on this and pass this, tomorrow the convenience store has to come to us, right? [1:30:25, 1:30:45]: Yes, sir. So w that the in essence delaying this would actually open it up. We probably would need a moratorium if we delayed. But if we went ahead and passed it tonight, then before anybody else would be able to bring a convenience store, a vape store, anything else, they would come to us. And guess what we're gonna do? We're gonna say no, you can't do that. [1:30:45, 1:31:05]: To do on my behalf. So I want to make a motion so that we can go ahead and move forward with this because I don't support those other restrictions. And then kind of to keep it clean, if we want to bring back at a separate opportunity to discuss some additional uh restrictions, we certainly can do that at a later date. [1:31:05, 1:31:16]: to talk about that in detail, but this needs to be done now so a convenience store does not come to us tomorrow. But I don't want to restrict the entertainment district. That would be my current motion. [1:31:16, 1:31:17]: Mayor Ford. [1:31:18, 1:31:19]: Yes. [1:31:19, 1:31:19]: Um [1:31:20, 1:31:27]: May I ask Councilman Alexander as conditions to his motion because I want to approve this. This isn't in the district that I represent. [1:31:28, 1:31:31]: And this council has shown a pattern of making decisions. [1:31:32, 1:31:33]: In my district. [1:31:33, 1:31:34]: That is that. [1:31:35, 1:31:35]: My district. [1:31:36, 1:31:37]: I want to vote for it. [1:31:37, 1:31:39]: Otherwise, I'm going to oppose it. [1:31:40, 1:31:41]: We don't need another package store. [1:31:43, 1:31:48]: There's already one that was trying to come in the downtown that this council voted and approved. [1:31:49, 1:31:53]: We already have a package store up the street. We don't need another convenience store. [1:31:53, 1:31:56]: None of that is going to help people. [1:31:56, 1:32:01]: That's not gonna help attract anybody to our downtown. We have a suggestion for you, okay. [1:32:02, 1:32:05]: In order for me to vote and approve this text amendment, [1:32:06, 1:32:08]: All of the uses that I mentioned. [1:32:09, 1:32:10]: Package doors. [1:32:10, 1:32:14]: Convenience stores, nail salons, barber shops. [1:32:15, 1:32:16]: Chaos Alliance. [1:32:16, 1:32:28]: Tattoo parlance, storage facilities. I'm asking that all of those uses be included in this motion. Otherwise, I will not vote in support of this. [1:32:29, 1:32:38]: We can add those to the special use list, ma'am, with attached to that motion. So when we present the ordinance, it had those things on there f when we sign off on it. [1:32:41, 1:32:43]: And when is that going to come before the council? [1:32:44, 1:32:45]: When you gonna have that change? [1:32:45, 1:32:52]: The next meeting. So the motion, you approve the motion with those amendments on there. So when we create it for signatures, it would have that on there for the record. [1:32:53, 1:33:13]: So that's why I'm asking Councilman Alexander to include in his motion all of these uses that I just mentioned. And then I can support. Listen, the reason that I say that is those uses are already prohibited now under distance limit. They're already there. [1:33:13, 1:33:33]: You can't add another convenience store with the distance requirement. You can't add another vape store with the distance requirement. Your CNL beauty is right here, so you can't add another one in a mile. It's already in there, and then anything else that comes to us subsequently has to come to us for approval. It's already there. [1:33:32, 1:33:51]: Not something that needs to be added into this uh already. It's already there and limited to this. Now, the one that's not the storage facility, I'm o I'm I'm okay with that because that's not on the list already. We don't have anything restricted, storage limits, no distance requirements as of yet. [1:33:52, 1:33:54]: Right. [1:33:55, 1:34:00]: Is it zone for storage facilities? I don't think he's even in the zoning. Right. So he can't even do that. [1:34:02, 1:34:16]: So basically it's already covered. All everything that you just mentioned is already covered. It's just like I just you just want it your way in order to do it, but it's already covered. It well well if I may, if it's already covered, it doesn't hurt us to name it. [1:34:16, 1:34:35]: Okay. Well let's need less move. It's already covered. To name it basically kind of duplicates what we've already done. So okay, in that in that instance if that's the way we're gonna do it. I'm okay with it. But this does not include cigar bars or hookah bars or none of that. Is that correct? [1:34:36, 1:34:37]: Yeah, those gonna be special use. [1:34:38, 1:34:40]: So g so [1:34:40, 1:34:58]: They can be special use. Hookah bars and cigar cigar lounge. Correct. They can be special use. By the time we do one, that's gonna be plenty. I'm just thinking. But I just uh we don't wanna restrict in our entertainment district for something, you know, that people go to. Right. Okay. [1:34:58, 1:35:01]: So what does it look like for a motion here? What what what are we talking about? [1:35:01, 1:35:21]: I'm okay with uh going ahead since Mr. Edmundson has indicated that they're already covered, it's already in there. Basically there's no harm in adding them since we're all the the restrictions are already in place. Correct. I think that makes sense. Well we're doing it with double keel, but certainly we're doing it again. So what's that motion look like? The motion would be uh [1:35:21, 1:35:33]: to approve the staff recommendations with the additional uh language to limit the convenience stores, the storage facility, uh what was the other two? [1:35:33, 1:35:52]: Nail salon, hair salon. Nail salon, hair salon. And barbershop, which are already restricted, but we're gonna make sure that they're listed in particular that they would be in this motion to understand that they're already that they're that they're s covered and be specifically mentioned in the motion. [1:35:52, 1:36:00]: Would you like for me to list all of those uses that I mentioned? True. So that it can be included in the U.S. I wanna make sure that we w we're in agreement with all of them, yeah. [1:36:03, 1:36:10]: Please list'cause I wanna make sure I we we we not putting anything in the I think what we're saying is they're already [1:36:10, 1:36:14]: Limited. We already it already exists. We already have something in [1:36:15, 1:36:24]: Uh, we already have a policy in place that prohibits those things from being in our downtown area. And storage facilities in general. [1:36:24, 1:36:30]: aren't even zoned for the area. And I don't want us to go round and round and round. I know we've got to finish this up, but [1:36:30, 1:36:50]: It's already there. Um, we just w it won't hurt us to add them into the language here specifically as well, so that when us you know someone comes, they would have to get permission from mayor and council. Um so so be it. But so let's let's get a right motion here with everything. I can add all of those conditions. [1:36:50, 1:36:52]: List them so we understand. [1:36:53, 1:36:56]: Okay. Car repair shops. [1:36:56, 1:36:58]: Tower shops, convenience stores, [1:36:59, 1:37:00]: Nail lines. [1:37:00, 1:37:01]: Barbershops. [1:37:02, 1:37:03]: Package stores. [1:37:03, 1:37:04]: Bake sharps. [1:37:06, 1:37:13]: It's not real. Hair salons. Storage facilities. Tattoo parlors. [1:37:15, 1:37:26]: Right. Those would require special use permits. If you get storage facilities. [1:37:27, 1:37:43]: Okay. And the storage facility would be in there. All of those would be required to have special use permits, which is the language that we have in this. And those ones that are specifically mentioned are already covered, but we're gonna have it in the motion anyway. [1:37:43, 1:37:48]: Ms. Alzheimer, you're making this motion? Yes. [1:37:48, 1:37:52]: Does this also include in the motion the distance requirement? [1:37:52, 1:37:56]: The distance requirements are already will remain in place always. [1:37:57, 1:37:57]: Yes. [1:37:59, 1:38:03]: But it's already in place. Right. They were already and they were staying in place, yes. [1:38:07, 1:38:16]: Okay, Miss Okay, Ms. Addison, you made the motion. Is that correct? Yeah, second. And Ms. Camp second. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. And we'll move on. [1:38:20, 1:38:25]: Text amendment, TX uh two zero two five dash zero two citywide, second reading. [1:38:26, 1:38:46]: Council consideration of the text amendment to amend the city of Stockbridge Code of Ordinance is to create a new section to establish supplemental use standards for personal care homes for one to six unrelated one to six unrelated adults to identify zoning districts which uh where such uses are permitted by special use permit. [1:38:46, 1:39:06]: to establish compliance operational and developmental um standards to amend the home occupation section for all other purposes. Mr. Ryan please or Mr. Anderson please once again mayor this is the second reading. [1:39:06, 1:39:25]: Two weeks ago on personal care homes, um that there is a conflict between our unified development code and our city code of ordinances that we wish to resolve uh to be in line to be in compliance with state law to to be in compliance with with state law and regulations in regards to personal care homes. [1:39:26, 1:39:33]: Excuse me. So staff d um developed some regulations and standards to govern personal care homes in the city of Stockbridge. [1:39:36, 1:39:38]: Questions, Council. [1:39:38, 1:39:58]: I was I was just gonna run through the um I know for sake of time, I'm just gonna run through um uh the the the standards and requirements. Um so we're personal care are provided to you can't have no more than six non-family adults. Personal care services include but are not limited to individual assistants with or supervision self-administered [1:39:58, 1:40:18]: Medication, essential activities of daily living, such as eating, bathing, grooming, dressing, and toilet toileting. A personal care home may not provide nursing or other medical service or admit and retain residents who need continuous medical care. They must have an administrator for the household on a 24-hour basis, seven-day a week, three years. [1:40:18, 1:40:38]: 365 or 366 years a day who live on site. Um we're amending section 9.7020 of the Stockbridge Munich Code, which is part nine of part of Title IX for licensing and regulations, provide definitions for day care centers, daycare center, family daycare centers, and group home. [1:40:38, 1:40:58]: but not specifically for the personal care home. So we're adding a definition to that. We don't know if it was an oversight or not, but all rec all jurisdictions that I've ever worked in or or that know of have um allowed for um personal care homes in their jurisdiction by use of a special use permission. [1:40:58, 1:41:18]: So we're adding that to the definition. So we are defining personal care homes are different from daycare centers, family daycare centers, and group daycare homes because they may be used for adults and they are not limited to fewer than 24 hours per day. Personal care homes does not include buildings which are devoted to independent living, nor do [1:41:18, 1:41:29]: Does it include halfway houses, residential treatment facilities, nursing homes, sanitariums, hospitals, or other institutional facilities or rooming or boarding facilities that do not provide personal care? [1:41:30, 1:41:50]: So these are the districts that staff is recommended that personal care homes be allowed in with a special use permit. They cannot open up a personal care home in the city of Stockbridge without first coming before council, getting approval. Staff can't administratively approve a personal care home in the city of Stockbridge. [1:41:50, 1:41:51]: Yeah. [1:41:51, 1:41:59]: So we're recommending the R R, SR, C C R, M F R, and OI. Well, um [1:42:02, 1:42:22]: So here's the development standards. They must have one acre and they cannot be located in a subdivision. They must meet all setback requirements. It has to be a single-family freestanding structure or within a religious facility. In the city of Stockbridge, we're limiting personal care homes to six unrelated. [1:42:22, 1:42:42]: You can have one to six unrelated adults, 24 hour supervision, parking requirements, two spaces per unit, plus one ADA space per non-resident employee. No parking shall be allowed in the front yard setback. Fencing, a six-foot privacy fence shall be installed around the perimeter and on [1:42:42, 1:43:02]: On all sides of the house. Refer to section 3.213 of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code. The minimum house size must be 2,250 square feet. The exterior appearance of any residential structure for which a personal care home is approved shall be maintained as residential and no signs shall be erected on the property. [1:43:02, 1:43:11]: The structural HVAC system must be in good working condition, must be ADA compliance, must have flock cameras installed with a 360-degree coverage around the structure. [1:43:12, 1:43:32]: Uh resident capacity. Um facilities shall accommodate a minimum of one and a maximum of six. Staffing requirements, at least one administrator, on-site manager, or responsible staff member shall be on the premises twenty-four hours per day. The minimum on-site staff to resident ratio is one to two during waking hours and one to six during non-waking hours. [1:43:32, 1:43:45]: Uh curb cut access. Permitted curb cut access shall be from an arterial or major collective. Permanent curb cut may be allowed from a minor collective within a thousand feet of the property line. [1:43:46, 1:43:57]: A minimum fifty feet front building front yard setback is required if it's adjacent to a SR, C C R MFR, or RR. [1:43:59, 1:44:00]: Uh [1:44:01, 1:44:21]: Personal care home must obtain a valid business license from the City of Stockbridge Business Services Division. So we're we're making personal care homes a regulatory business in the City of Stockbridge, meaning that uh our regulatory uh services department or or staff, including Code Compliance, can pay a visit at almost any time. [1:44:21, 1:44:41]: And uh other compliance requirements. All licensed personal personal care homes shall be subject to annual inspections by the city of Stockbridge to verify their compliance with zoning, health, safety, and building codes. Once again, no commercial signings shall be permitted on the premises of a personal care home located in a residential zoning district. Uh annual compliance report. [1:44:41, 1:45:01]: Each personal care home shall submit an annual compliance report to the city. Floor plan submission. They must submit their detailed floor plan to the city, to the planning and zoning, so we'll know what it looks like inside there. Record keeping them. Personal care homes must maintain current records for all residents and staff. The records must be retained for a minimum of three years after the city. [1:45:01, 1:45:21]: The resident is discharged, transferred, or deceased in according with the Georgia Department of Community Health Regulation. Um Operation Manager, each facility must maintain and make an operational policies and procedures manner manual and have it on site and it must be updated annually. Security, they must submit. [1:45:21, 1:45:24]: to the city of Stockbridge a written security plan. [1:45:25, 1:45:45]: The plan shall include emergency response procedures, visitor access protocol, stiff response training, regular maintenance, and position of security cameras for 360-degree coverage, other additional security measures, uh five outdoor cameras, flood light, smoke detectors, and an alarm system. [1:45:45, 1:46:01]: SIS system. Security coded entry doors and monitored entry system is required. Medication storage, they must have medication storage that is restricted from authorized access. Accessibility features, grab bars, and appropriate signage throughout, and emergency exit system. [1:46:03, 1:46:23]: Uh emergency procedures. Staff would address the situation. Well, I'm not gonna go through that for the sake of time. But um as I mentioned, um we've decided to make personal care homes in the city of Stark Brig a regulatory use. And um as a regulatory business, the city shall require reasonable investigation, assessment, [1:46:23, 1:46:43]: The application, a permit fee of$1,500 that cannot be prorated on or after July 1st and valid through December 31st of the year applied. A valid permit may be renewed for a consecutive one-year period. So they will have to come in and get their permit renewed. Additional conditions upon operations to assure the [1:46:43, 1:47:03]: Compatibility with other uses in the vicinity and to ensure public health, safety, and welfare as determined by the city. And you permit and denial. So we're recommending that the city can revoke or deny the application. If the applicant has been convicted of a felony, the applicant is under the age of 21. The applicant made a false [1:47:03, 1:47:23]: Statement in application for a license. The application on their face indicates that the proposed personal care home cannot be operated in accordance with the requirements of this section or any other significant finding. And business services or the city can also revoke their approved permit if the owner or operator of the personal care home. [1:47:22, 1:47:42]: Violates any requirements of this section. The owner or operator of the personal care home is convicted of a felony. Personal care home is not in compliance with one or more of the conditions of its license. Owner of operator has committed fraud in the rendering or of service of fraud or deceit in obtaining this permit. The owner or emplo or any employee has engaged in any fraudulent [1:47:42, 1:47:54]: false, misleading, or deceptive practice in the operation of the facility, the owner, resident or any employee commits any crime, criminal act at the premises holding, and any or any other significant finding. [1:47:56, 1:48:16]: Uh uh let me touch on this. Um like I mentioned previously personal care homes shall be considered regul a regulated business in the city of Stockbridge. The the non-refundable annual fee is based on the gross receipts of the businesses and added with an annual permit, so they must play occupational taxes. Applicants are required to file. [1:48:16, 1:48:36]: File for a personal care home permit within the City of Stockbridge Business Service Division annually. A person or entity seeking to own or operate a personal care home within the city must apply for and receive an OTC. The OTC must be renewed and issued annually. The city may impose additional conditions on the operation of a personal care home. [1:48:35, 1:48:55]: as it deems necessary to ensure its compatibility with surrounding land use and to protect the health, safety, and welfare. A personal care home OTC once again may be revoked if the the owner of this personal care home violates any of the s commits a felony or fraud on his application. [1:48:55, 1:49:15]: And personal care homes must maintain an act active OTC license from the city of Stockbridge. So those are basically the standards and regulations that we came up with to go along with updating section nine, title nine of the City Code of Ordinances. [1:49:15, 1:49:16]: [6557.4, 6558.2]: So [1:49:18, 1:49:21]: All right, counseling questions for Mr. Anderson. [1:49:22, 1:49:24]: Anybody? I do want to. Go write it, please. [1:49:27, 1:49:32]: Well, you know what? This is a public hearing item. Yes it is. I'll wait until after the public has [1:49:32, 1:49:35]: Offer comments. [1:49:38, 1:49:44]: All right. There's no comments, then it is a public hearing. So from far left side, any p comments four. Four. [1:49:46, 1:49:47]: In the middle. In comments four. [1:49:49, 1:49:51]: A far right, and comments four. [1:49:51, 1:50:08]: Yeah, my far left, any comments against what was mentioned. Anything in the middle? Anyb against? Okay, you come on up, sir. We got a line up. Um I'm on the far right, anybody against what was mentioned or in reference to this? Anybody against? Okay. Name and address please. [1:50:11, 1:50:31]: Robert Schuel, two fifty three Shields Road. Okay. This property's directly across from my house. Uh wait a minute. This is uh this is two seventy No no two we haven't got there yet, sir. We're talking about this is a city, this is a citywide Oh I'm sorry. Texas I jumped a gun. Yeah, there is there is a next one coming up, deals with Texas. [1:50:31, 1:50:35]: But we haven't talked about that just yet. That's coming. That's coming. [1:50:36, 1:50:40]: All right, so any in any no no other comments for or against. [1:50:41, 1:50:45]: All right. All right, Sean. I guess uh Sean has something to say here, so uh questions. [1:50:47, 1:50:48]: Just want to make sure. [1:50:53, 1:51:07]: Um, I'll just like to add, uh I don't recall hearing it, but just for the sake of that, uh I will also include that they must have a generator um in the vent there. There's a winter storm and the power goes out due to that care. I think that's extremely important. [1:51:08, 1:51:09]: A generator. [1:51:11, 1:51:12]: Think of that. [1:51:13, 1:51:18]: Well that have to be in emotion then I would imagine. Yeah, well as a condition. I mean as a condition, yeah. [1:51:19, 1:51:26]: All right. So no that comes for or against. All right. So on that note then, if the council [1:51:26, 1:51:27]: And it's [1:51:27, 1:51:28]: Yeah, yeah. [1:51:30, 1:51:42]: Distance requirement. Can you also include that in this text amendment? For what now? Whis w a distance requirement. Oh yeah, we we we have that um the distance requirement is is fifteen hundred feet. [1:51:42, 1:51:50]: Fifteen hundred fifteen hundred feet. Okay. So I can support this, but I would like to see us have a [1:51:52, 1:51:56]: Have us increase the distance requirement to w to five miles. [1:51:57, 1:51:58]: Five miles. Mm-hmm. [1:51:58, 1:52:03]: I say five miles because my dist my district is so elongated. [1:52:04, 1:52:06]: I don't know about anybody else's, but [1:52:06, 1:52:20]: Mine is so elongated. I I want to suggest five miles, but perhaps a three mile distance may be good. I would need to check with um legal counsel to see if if if that's feasible. Uh [1:52:21, 1:52:41]: Uh well because there's some other the fifteen hundred feet that um that doesn't help my district. I don't want my district to be oversaturated with personal care homes. Okay. My district is the one that's most elongated, so that fifteen hundred feet may work for the other districts. Okay. It doesn't necessarily for mine. What [1:52:41, 1:52:43]: What about uh our standard? One mile. [1:52:44, 1:52:45]: That we've already [1:52:46, 1:52:49]: How about three? Three miles. Okay. [1:52:50, 1:53:03]: Okay. All right. Um Mr. Hetmuson. So otherwise this is something that would have to be in the the motion to approve, the septis, whatever the distance required would be. [1:53:04, 1:53:06]: One mile, three miles, six miles. [1:53:06, 1:53:08]: I I I would say this. Um [1:53:09, 1:53:29]: Just listening to the restrictions that we put in place, it's gonna cost about a hundred thousand dollars just for them to get off the ground besides obtaining all the other permits and license. I think the city went above and beyond and put a lot of restrictions. But we also don't want to make sure that we're not adding such restrictions that we are a bit it's a deterrent, right? Because it is [1:53:29, 1:53:32]: [6815.0, 6816.4]: Okay. Okay. [1:53:39, 1:53:41]: Go ahead, son. I'm sorry, sir. [1:53:41, 1:54:01]: Yes, sir. Uh I was just, you know, saying with all the restrictions that we put on there from them having a digital keypad, the fence, the three sixty cameras, the generator, uh the parking spaces, I mean it's a lot. Um and I think with those in place, it's very unlikely we [1:54:01, 1:54:15]: We probably get a lot of those. I think with the restriction we have in place, I think it's fair to say, hey, we we're not trying to fully restrict, but we are trying to control. I think the restrictions we have in place is reasonable. Um [1:54:16, 1:54:32]: That's a that's a lot. I mean, that's gonna be about a hundred thousand dollars easy just with those modifications inside that we're not even talking about inside the home. Uh it it takes a lot to start one of these things and I just don't think there'll be an influx of those. But once again, if they are. [1:54:33, 1:54:50]: they have to come back before you to get a permission anyway. So it's not like, you know, once this passes that they don't have to come back before this body. They do. They have to state their case. And these are some of the things that you can consider uh or deliberate on before you make a final decision to allow them a special use permit to to operate. [1:54:51, 1:54:59]: Stand by. Sir. You wanna continue on? Please, if I may. Go ahead. Um, because that fifteen hundred feet [1:54:59, 1:55:02]: distance requirement, it may be [1:55:03, 1:55:05]: Fine for the other districts. [1:55:05, 1:55:10]: But not mine, because my district is so elongated. [1:55:10, 1:55:12]: The landmass is much wider. [1:55:13, 1:55:14]: And I don't want [1:55:15, 1:55:18]: My district saturated with a whole lot of personal care homes. [1:55:18, 1:55:24]: We have the downtown area right in the middle of my district. So it makes it a little complicated. [1:55:25, 1:55:35]: Um so I want to extend that distance requirement. I will make a motion um for this if the council uh supports a two mile [1:55:36, 1:55:39]: distance requirement and [1:55:39, 1:55:39]: Um [1:55:41, 1:55:42]: And maybe I overlooked it. [1:55:44, 1:55:51]: Not having personal care homes inside of HOA subdivisions. Yeah, that's it. Okay, so it's just outside. [1:55:52, 1:55:53]: Neighborhoods. [1:55:54, 1:56:14]: One and one acre lot. So that's not a lot of parcels kind of like that that meets this kind of it's very limited. Uh so I think it's restrictive, but once again, um it's up to y'all to add that okay additional restriction. I so the fencing, it has to be full fencing. Yep. [1:56:14, 1:56:15]: Um [1:56:16, 1:56:21]: Can we make that wrath iron fencing because just a regular [1:56:21, 1:56:24]: Like fencing, it falls over. [1:56:24, 1:56:29]: I've got a lot of that in my district and I want to kind of [1:56:30, 1:56:36]: Increase the quality of the fencing. I don't just want anybody to just put up just a regular [1:56:36, 1:56:38]: Either wooden fence or [1:56:39, 1:56:44]: What he called a little chain fence. And I've got a lot of that in my district. [1:56:45, 1:56:47]: So help me. Okay. Um [1:56:49, 1:56:52]: That's one. And let's see. [1:56:57, 1:57:03]: Uh okay, parking on the lawn is prohibited. So the length of the driveway will have to cover that. [1:57:04, 1:57:05]: Um fifty feet. [1:57:07, 1:57:10]: The fifty feet setback. Okay. [1:57:10, 1:57:10]: Um [1:57:13, 1:57:18]: Is it too much um with adding um speed bump? [1:57:21, 1:57:41]: Well, that's uh typically traffic common is a process for traffic common. That would require a study to be done and and for council to vote on traffic common and'cause then that also affects public safety as well. So I'm not saying it can't be done, but for us to decide that tonight, we will have to look at the scenario'cause I think it's not a one size fit all. [1:57:40, 1:57:46]: depending on what the location of these particular houses. So we would have to take another look at that, I would say. [1:57:46, 1:57:50]: Okay. The reason why I want to make sure that [1:57:51, 1:57:52]: Alvis [1:57:53, 1:57:55]: Our document is because we have [1:57:56, 1:57:57]: a [1:57:58, 1:58:01]: Applicant that has submitted a application. I want to make sure that we [1:58:01, 1:58:21]: cover this for any additional or potential right um applications that may come forward. Um and and that will be the a discussion, right? So depending on the location now that you have about it I better idea where this proposed housing is gonna be located, then we have a opportunity to look at that location and see if those things can be added on there or they open [1:58:21, 1:58:29]: open to it because we just don't know right now. Uh because it's, you know, situation dependent, I would say, when it comes to traffic calming, et cetera. [1:58:30, 1:58:30]: Okay. [1:58:31, 1:58:32]: Mayor. [1:58:34, 1:58:37]: Stand by, please. Yeah, go ahead, Ms. Camp. [1:58:37, 1:58:38]: Oh thank you [1:58:38, 1:58:45]: Um, I'm I'm okay with the one mile radius, like all the rest of the restrictions. If you really look at it, you got um an acre. [1:58:46, 1:58:53]: um lot that's very rare nowadays here. Um, if we can even get people in a acre lot. [1:58:53, 1:59:13]: I guess one of my questions was how is b like housing? Um, is it one one senior per bedroom or or is that the requirement or how how does that work? I'm just curious as to know how that is. Um so we make sure that there's no that I know there's a limit. [1:59:13, 1:59:31]: I thought I saw up to six. And the house the full house, but how many bedrooms are required um in order to run this type of establishment with with six or is it one per bedroom occupancy or is two per bedroom occupancy? [1:59:31, 1:59:40]: Okay. Um i is there a certain size the bedroom has to be with that and all those that were in the requirements are in there? I just wanna make sure'cause I [1:59:40, 2:00:00]: Just want to double check. So these these uh housing or these buildings has to be in compliance with the United Building Code as well, residential code for for housing, for safe egress and e ingress as well. So it's not like they can't throw up a bunch of rooms and stick a bunch of people in there. So uh and that's another reason why we put inside [2:00:00, 2:00:12]: the recommend uh the requirement that they submit plans so that we can see the layout to make sure it's still in compliance with uh the building code as well. And and I appreciate that. And um in regards to [2:00:12, 2:00:13]: I'm not [2:00:13, 2:00:33]: really in favor of speed bumps on a private driveway. It's a private road, a private I mean a private property, so to speak. Um it's just a it's private property. So, you know, parking, it's you're going up a driveway, I don't think that's really necessary. Um, but I do think that um, you know [2:00:33, 2:00:40]: No, I just wanted to make sure those requirements are met. [2:00:40, 2:00:48]: I mean, based off of the square mileage of our city, that, you know, just putting the one mile restriction like we do everything else, I think, would be sufficient. [2:00:51, 2:00:52]: Okay, any other comments? [2:00:53, 2:01:13]: Yeah, I I think the one mile restriction would be uh appropriate for for the um for this particular circumstance. I just wanted to make sure that in a residential area that the parking was going to be um adequate for it. And I think Miss Gantt answered my question about um [2:01:13, 2:01:33]: You know, if you got six people in there and you know, the square footage on a house, if you got six people in there and a twenty two hundred square feet house, it might be a little bit tight with two people in each bedroom. So the restrictions on what the size of the house and and everything to make sure that [2:01:33, 2:01:53]: you know, that there's appropriate space uh in terms of ADA accommodations, all that stuff matters. Right. And and and and the you know the compliance e the ADA compliance and all of that. So certainly that would need to be appropriate, but the one mile restriction, there are certain areas in the city where you don't want to [2:01:53, 2:02:13]: Where it's going to be appropriate at. So I wouldn't want to do a five-mile restriction on this or or an extended one. I would want to do the one mile because it's going to be a need in the area. I just want to know a lot a little bit more about it in terms of you we say the residents. [2:02:13, 2:02:20]: uh the resident what the and uh may maybe the after can talk about what the resident population looks like in the facility. [2:02:23, 2:02:36]: Or maybe someone could talk about the re what what is the clientele look like? What what is the the the the the the users look like? Uh what does that represent? Uh w we'll get to that when we come up with the rezoni. [2:02:37, 2:02:40]: I'm saying in general with the population that uses these facilities. [2:02:41, 2:03:01]: Um like maybe um disabled veteran or uh a disabled individual, someone who can't fully take care of themselves but they are dependent, but they still need a little assistance, maybe with getting dressed or using a bathroom or something like that, toilet. [2:03:00, 2:03:03]: We we identified the the uses in the in the presentation. [2:03:04, 2:03:24]: Okay. I I I just wanna to understand'cause I looked at it and I said as it says there was no there wasn't gonna be anyone that would w would we be independent living or assisted living. No, it's not n no, it's not assistant living or they're h they're healthy individuals. They just might forget to take their medicine or something like that. [2:03:24, 2:03:25]: Okay. [2:03:25, 2:03:45]: All right, well that that sounds appropriate for what we're trying to do, um, and uh and understanding'cause the language is kinda complex, it's kinda cumbersome to read it all and just to try to take it all in to see.'Cause you know, a couple of weeks ago we had a situation where we had someone wander off and we spent an extended amount of time [2:03:45, 2:03:54]: in a search for that particular individual, search thank God that they were found safe. So that's not the population that would be targeted for this particular [2:03:55, 2:04:06]: Um no sir, I don't think that's a good idea. This particular use? No, sir. No. Okay. No. You have any comments, sir? Yeah, for you. Okay, so [2:04:06, 2:04:11]: All the other districts have s HOA subdivisions in them. [2:04:12, 2:04:13]: Mine does not. [2:04:14, 2:04:17]: Mine is majority neighborhoods. [2:04:17, 2:04:19]: Well, except for the subdivision [2:04:19, 2:04:20]: The half. [2:04:21, 2:04:24]: The one half of my subdivision that I represent. [2:04:25, 2:04:28]: Ninety five percent of my district is neighborhoods. [2:04:29, 2:04:31]: The rest of their districts have HOA. [2:04:32, 2:04:35]: Neighborhoods and apartment complexes. [2:04:36, 2:04:39]: That's why the distance requirement is important to me. [2:04:40, 2:04:43]: So when when it comes to the distance requirement. [2:04:43, 2:05:03]: I'm amenable to two miles, but definitely not fifteen hundred feet or one mile. The thing is what when I said five or two, three, four, or five probably wouldn't work because I'm not sure your your district exceeds six total square miles in area. So that means you wouldn't baby [2:05:03, 2:05:23]: To have another one in your district, period. You would just only be only able to have this one. So a one-mile distance requirement would be more appropriate. You only have like six total square miles that make up your whole entire district. Uh the city is 20 square miles. The whole entire city of Stockbridge is 20 19 point something total square miles. [2:05:23, 2:05:35]: miles. So that means we could have four in the whole entire city if we went with five. But your district is slightly over five square miles. So that would mean you you would only be able to have this one if you approve it. [2:05:35, 2:05:39]: So I beg to differ if you had a map. [2:05:40, 2:05:42]: Of my district, um [2:05:42, 2:05:44]: It's a lot wider. [2:05:44, 2:05:48]: than six miles. In fact, my district is [2:05:48, 2:05:53]: Фардессах аварс фарде сад іст аварсі [2:05:53, 2:05:58]: All the way farthest north of our city limits, and everything in between. [2:05:59, 2:06:00]: So [2:06:00, 2:06:03]: No. Having um [2:06:03, 2:06:06]: A personal care home every one mile. [2:06:07, 2:06:09]: That that's not feasible. [2:06:09, 2:06:12]: Of course they are okay with it because it doesn't affect their district. [2:06:13, 2:06:18]: Because all of their districts have apartments and HOA neighborhoods in which [2:06:19, 2:06:30]: Your recommendation restricts personal care homes in HOA neighborhoods. So they don't really care. So it's it's correct, it's every square mile, not every mile. [2:06:30, 2:06:31]: Square mile. [2:06:31, 2:06:34]: Square mile. Square mile, not every mile. [2:06:35, 2:06:35]: Thank you. [2:06:36, 2:06:36]: Yes, ma'am. [2:06:36, 2:06:37]: Thank you for that. [2:06:37, 2:06:38]: Okay. [2:06:43, 2:06:44]: But I still want to increase that. [2:06:47, 2:06:51]: Can we still increase that to two? Two, please. [2:06:51, 2:07:11]: Please. Oh well I'll make the motion. Can I make a motion and see if my councilmates and see what see what the rest of the council has to say? Okay. So I will make a motion to approve staff recommendation um for the text amendment TX dash two zero two five dash zero two. [2:07:11, 2:07:12]: City wide. [2:07:13, 2:07:33]: To amend the City of Stockbridge Code of Ordinances to create a new section to establish supplemental use standards for personal care homes for one to six unrelated adults, to identify zoning districts where such uses are permitted by special use permit, to establish compliance. [2:07:33, 2:07:47]: operational and developmental standards to amend the home occupation section and for other purposes, including the condition of the distance requirement of two square miles. [2:07:48, 2:07:51]: Is there a second? Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [2:07:55, 2:07:58]: Yes, and the generator. And to include the generator. [2:08:02, 2:08:04]: You have a question, sir? I would go ahead. [2:08:05, 2:08:25]: Uh to Councilwoman Barber, I just wanna pose a question. Is is it a possibility that we can go back to the one square mile? My my only concern is I don't want us to look like we're so restrictive to a population that's already underserved and underprivileged when we talk about personal care homes. And I think [2:08:25, 2:08:45]: When we make an abundance of restrictions, it sends a mixed signal. I know we don't want to have them, you know, so many within that square mileage. And I think what they've offered is a good alternative. But I think when we make so many harsh restrictions on a vulnerable population, it's a bad message for us. [2:08:44, 2:09:03]: As a counsel to say, hey, we don't want that vulnerable population to live in the city of Stockbridge by these harsh restrictions that we put in. So I I'm not saying that, you know, it's it's bad, but I just kinda tone it back a little. Can we I understand exactly what you mean? And I can agree with that, but um [2:09:04, 2:09:08]: Let's consider redrawing these district lines because what was left [2:09:09, 2:09:20]: when everybody else had input in drawing their districts, they left me what was left. I inherited from the So all of the areas that are vulnerable, all of the [2:09:20, 2:09:24]: Во сам одіс арез, арес да [2:09:24, 2:09:26]: Require a lot of rehabbing. [2:09:27, 2:09:29]: And infrastructure improvements. [2:09:29, 2:09:33]: That's the areas that I have, and what I don't want to do is oversaturate. [2:09:34, 2:09:35]: My district [2:09:35, 2:09:36]: With personal care homes. [2:09:37, 2:09:39]: The undesirables um [2:09:39, 2:09:40]: Bad. [2:09:40, 2:09:41]: The rest uh [2:09:41, 2:09:51]: their districts won't even allow because they are in HOAs and apartment complexes. So it only affects mine really. I'm sorry, point of order. [2:09:52, 2:09:55]: Please do not refer to this population as the other. [2:09:56, 2:10:02]: Can you please add that to my condition? Well, it's fencing. The fencing there is typically. [2:10:02, 2:10:22]: Roth iron. If you can add that as a condition to my motion too, please. That's expensive. Roth iron? That is very expensive. Well, is there another type other than just a chain length chain fence? Rhod iron fence. Privacy fence. What is privacy fence? Oh no, those kind of [2:10:22, 2:10:42]: uh deteriorate really quickly. Is there another type of material that kinda is durable that will last? That's that's too extreme. I can't sorry. That's expensive. The rod iron is too expensive. Businesses don't even put up rod iron. I'm not doing because of the cost. It's it's iron is very expensive. [2:10:42, 2:10:52]: Extremely okay, so these are the complex discussions that we have to have for just my district. It's really only affects my district once again. [2:10:52, 2:10:59]: Their districts are mostly HOA managed neighborhoods and apartment complexes in which [2:10:59, 2:11:02]: This really doesn't apply to them, only to mine. [2:11:03, 2:11:14]: They drew my district that way. But nonetheless. I did not um can we just another alternative can we say in the most or you can say or similar in style. Or similar. In style. Let's say or similar. [2:11:15, 2:11:20]: Okay. Are you uh minimal to one mile or you staying with two miles? I'm not getting my motion has two miles. [2:11:21, 2:11:23]: All right, so is there a second to the motion? [2:11:23, 2:11:25]: Is there a second to the motion? [2:11:28, 2:11:30]: No no second to the motion. Motion dies. [2:11:31, 2:11:51]: I will not accept anything more than um Okay. Well is there well with there needs to be a mayor. Yes, sir. Got a motion. Uh make a motion to approve with the one mile distance limit and the generator being established with it. We've established parking and certainly uh as Mr. Edmondson has indicated, the wrought iron fencing and all of that would be [2:11:51, 2:11:58]: more expensive in commerce and this is we're we're at the point where we need to be at so appro motion to approve. [2:11:58, 2:12:05]: Is there a second to that motion? Well well you're not talking about a right arm thing. You say No, I'm saying no wr no right arm. No right arm. Okay. I I second. [2:12:05, 2:12:08]: Okay, Ms. Gantt second the motion. All in favor, please indicate. [2:12:09, 2:12:22]: All opposed. I will abstain, sir. Okay, so it's three zero one motion passed. I'd like to add a comment to my abstention, as I always do. I will abstain because this mostly affects my district. [2:12:22, 2:12:25]: The other districts are all [2:12:25, 2:12:35]: have HOAs and apartment complexes. It mostly affects my district. And I would prefer there be a [2:12:35, 2:12:36]: Um [2:12:36, 2:12:38]: Wider restriction. [2:12:38, 2:12:40]: On these to two miles. [2:12:41, 2:12:43]: With wroth iron or [2:12:44, 2:12:46]: Some other similar fencing. [2:12:47, 2:12:49]: Along with the generator. [2:12:50, 2:12:53]: And everything else that I named in my original motion. [2:12:53, 2:12:54]: Thank you. [2:12:55, 2:13:15]: All right, number four, special use permit case sp two zero two four-03 Council District 4. Consideration of a special use permit to allow personal care home to operate on property 270 Shields Road within an existing single-family detached residence. Applicant agents Sonia John, the property is located at landlock. [2:13:14, 2:13:34]: 70 of district twelve and it contains 1.47 miles, excuse me, 1.47 acres. Mr. Ryan, uh Mr. Anson, please. Okay, Mayor I'm gonna go through this real fast. I got well oh wow, I'm looking at a 57-page report, but um uh since council approved um the previous uh text amendment [2:13:34, 2:13:40]: Staff is recommending approval with conditions provided that the applicant meets all the requirements. [2:13:41, 2:13:45]: That's in the ordinance that we recently but that we just passed. Staff record. [2:13:46, 2:13:51]: Council, any questions for uh this case that Mr. Ryan, Ms. Anderson just presented? [2:13:52, 2:13:53]: Applications. [2:13:55, 2:13:58]: Okay, excuse me. I didn't okay. [2:13:59, 2:14:01]: That's why she was raising her hand earlier, I guess. Okay. [2:14:02, 2:14:04]: Yeah. [2:14:08, 2:14:10]: Name and address, please. [2:14:10, 2:14:16]: Good evening, Michelle Battle with Battle Law, thirty five sixty two, Habersham at North Flake, Tucker, Georgia, three zero zero eight four. [2:14:17, 2:14:37]: How much time do I have? Ten minutes. Um You got time. I'm slightly distressed by the last piece that was just approved, only because um I've helped a number of personal care homes. The fact that the city doesn't have any personal care homes is interesting in and of itself. [2:14:37, 2:14:51]: Um there are many people who need this assistance. We are living in a time where in a minute a lot of folks aren't even gonna have Medicaid. They're gonna need places to stay. A lot of our seniors are gonna need I'm a senior. [2:14:53, 2:15:00]: We're gonna need places to be. Our families are gonna we wanna be around our families. We don't wanna be two or three cities away. [2:15:01, 2:15:08]: With requirements so restrictive that the personal care homes, most of these are ran quite honestly by a lot of women. [2:15:09, 2:15:12]: Women helping women. Women helping women. [2:15:13, 2:15:16]: Mothers, grandmothers, aunts. [2:15:17, 2:15:36]: People that need a place to be because they can't care for themselves in the same way that others can, where they can stay in their homes. I have an aunt that's ninety that's able to stay in her home, but I also had a mother who couldn't stay in her home and she needed a place to stay. [2:15:38, 2:15:40]: I run a non profit. [2:15:42, 2:15:48]: for young adults who are special needs adults who cannot stay on their own. [2:15:49, 2:15:56]: They need a place to stay. They cannot stay by themselves. That is their home for the rest of their lives. [2:15:57, 2:15:58]: Because they cannot [2:15:59, 2:16:06]: They are mentally or physically disabled to the point that they cannot stay by themselves. This is where they have to be. [2:16:07, 2:16:27]: And so as a society, we have a responsibility to the least of those. And when you put such restrictions, then it makes it almost impossible for those personal care homes to afford to be in existence. They're not getting major dollars. [2:16:27, 2:16:31]: Medicare and Medicaid only give a certain amount. [2:16:33, 2:16:34]: Per person. [2:16:37, 2:16:47]: The startup costs that you all have, you know, the state regulates what they can do, how big the rooms have to be, how many people can be in a room. Those are state regulations. [2:16:48, 2:16:51]: So it's really hurtful to me. [2:16:51, 2:17:05]: to hear the restrictions that are being placed and want to put more and more restrictions because we're more worried about distance and how many people are going to be within a s in a square footage than it is about the people who need the help. [2:17:07, 2:17:08]: It's not until it's your mom. [2:17:09, 2:17:11]: Or your aunt, or your cousin, or whoever it is. [2:17:12, 2:17:16]: that needs the assistance and you can't find it and you want them to be close to you. [2:17:18, 2:17:22]: So that you don't have to go two or three cities over. [2:17:22, 2:17:24]: Де хав лес рестричніс. [2:17:25, 2:17:30]: for you to be able to care for your parent or it or or your loved one. [2:17:30, 2:17:33]: So I apologize for being so [2:17:34, 2:17:38]: angst about this, but it is something that I deal with every [2:17:39, 2:17:40]: Day. [2:17:40, 2:17:59]: And I represent people who have these personal care homes. And it gets offensive to me at times when I hear there's more worry about the distance than there are about the people who need the help. They don't want to be in a personal care home trust. Does anybody in here want to be in a personal care home? [2:18:00, 2:18:04]: That's not the place you wanna be, but it may be the place you end up. [2:18:05, 2:18:14]: And you pray that you're able to be near the people who live in your city who are maybe your kids or whomever that you love and that you want to come and see you. [2:18:14, 2:18:18]: And not have to live so far away that they can't even get to you. [2:18:19, 2:18:22]: through the traffic and all the other things that we have going on around here. [2:18:22, 2:18:24]: That being said, the [2:18:24, 2:18:30]: We believe that this place at two seventy Shields is an appropriate location. We meet the requirements. [2:18:30, 2:18:39]: We meet the requirements with regards to the lot size, with regards to the setbacks, with regards to the distances, all the stuff that has been discussed, we meet it. [2:18:40, 2:19:00]: She has been working on this since last year. She had approval for up to three. She now has approval in May of this year for up to six individuals to stay in the in the community that she is trying to develop. She is trying to do something good for people who live in the city of Stockton. [2:19:00, 2:19:12]: Stockbridge who right now there is no personal care home in the city of Stockbridge that allows up to six people. And I don't knew and I when I looked, I don't even know if I saw any that allowed up to three. [2:19:13, 2:19:19]: When I went on the state's website, there are none. So you're not taking care of those people right now. [2:19:20, 2:19:22]: You don't have an oversaturation'cause there is nobody. [2:19:24, 2:19:33]: The way that this is set up now, you have the ability to review just like this one, a special land use permit every time they come through. There's no [2:19:34, 2:19:35]: Байт. [2:19:36, 2:19:39]: Everybody has to come through this process unless I'm missing something. [2:19:40, 2:19:41]: They have to come through this process. [2:19:42, 2:19:51]: So you have an opportunity to look at where it's gonna be at and what the restrictions need to be and if there's anything particular and no different than us here. [2:19:51, 2:20:03]: Um I appreciate not having the wrought iron fence. That's expensive. Even home builders don't want to do the wrought iron fence because it's so expensive to do. Um [2:20:04, 2:20:10]: We believe that again this is an appropriate location. We are in the SR district. [2:20:10, 2:20:11]: Um [2:20:12, 2:20:20]: The site has a long driveway up, so there is plenty and ample opportunity to take cars off the road for parking. [2:20:20, 2:20:27]: Um the home will be um continue to be um renovated. There's um space within the interior. [2:20:27, 2:20:29]: А фордикс резидентс тел битву. [2:20:30, 2:20:30]: Um [2:20:31, 2:20:33]: Фултиме звубикне. [2:20:34, 2:20:34]: Um [2:20:35, 2:20:55]: Um and so we believe that this again makes sense. Um the residents primarily will be seniors. Um there may be one or two younger people. Um when I say younger, that may be 40 or 50. Um you're typically not mixing a lot of different populations together. You're trying to create [2:20:55, 2:20:57]: Крейте а хом пізніс самадіс хом. [2:20:58, 2:21:05]: For some people they may be able to eventually go back to their other homes, but for some, this may be it for the rest of their time. [2:21:06, 2:21:26]: Um and so we ask that you um approve the application with the conditions um put forth by staff. I know that there's some people here I've heard at other hearings that have spoken in opposition or who have questions or concerns, but I certainly hope that we as a society and this city, this is a great city of Stockbridge, you are [2:21:26, 2:21:38]: Doing amazing things here. You want to take care of those who are able to get out and to enjoy and to play and to entertain and all those kind of things. But I ask you to also consider [2:21:38, 2:21:40]: Those who cannot. [2:21:41, 2:21:52]: Those who need assistance, those who need a place to be and feel loved and cared for. Because in a few minutes, there are gonna be a lot of people. [2:21:52, 2:21:57]: who are gonna have their parents in spaces that they will no longer be able to pay for or [2:21:57, 2:21:58]: Афорд [2:22:00, 2:22:03]: Because of what is happening at our federal level. [2:22:06, 2:22:15]: People are not gonna be in the same position. And these personal care homes may be the only place, only options that they have. [2:22:15, 2:22:20]: because of decisions that are beyond our abilities down here. [2:22:20, 2:22:34]: when it comes to the money that is necessary to take care of folks. So I just ask that we consider that as we consider this application. And my client is here as well. If um she'd like to speak, I'm turning the mic over to her. [2:22:35, 2:22:37]: Okay, good evening to everyone. [2:22:37, 2:22:40]: Um I am humbly asking [2:22:40, 2:22:44]: And I have come before you all many times. [2:22:44, 2:22:50]: I have my life saving in this. I had to mortgage my current home. [2:22:50, 2:22:53]: In order to facilitate what I'm doing. [2:22:54, 2:23:05]: I have made all the requirements that you'll ask, except for the um generator that y'all just add on to it. The state has come over twice to my place. [2:23:06, 2:23:10]: To inspect and has licensed me for six. [2:23:11, 2:23:23]: So all I'm asking is the opportunity to service my community as well, because this is part of the community. I am a resident, I pay taxes as well. [2:23:23, 2:23:24]: Um [2:23:24, 2:23:28]: All of us need to leave and all of us will at a point. [2:23:28, 2:23:30]: Need somewhere to be. [2:23:30, 2:23:32]: I can understand right now. [2:23:33, 2:23:33]: Ви [2:23:34, 2:23:36]: Don't think that we will need it. [2:23:37, 2:23:39]: But I can tell each and every one of us. [2:23:40, 2:23:48]: I may be the next one in these wheelchairs, these beds, or whatever they they uh how we accommodate them. [2:23:49, 2:23:53]: So I am humbly asking. I am tired. [2:23:54, 2:23:55]: Of waiting. [2:23:56, 2:24:01]: I am tired of spending everything that I have beyond what I can afford. [2:24:02, 2:24:03]: Just to do [2:24:03, 2:24:06]: what I feel that I was appointed to do. [2:24:06, 2:24:07]: Well. [2:24:07, 2:24:08]: So please. [2:24:09, 2:24:10]: Grant me that opportunity. [2:24:12, 2:24:13]: That's all I have to say. [2:24:13, 2:24:33]: Thank you. Appreciate your comments and uh Miss Battle, your enthusiasm and passion for all this. Um what I what I personally try to do when something like this comes up and look on the agenda, I drive by, get in my car, and I drive by the location. So I did that today as well. And uh what we just passed in a previous [2:24:33, 2:24:48]: previous discussion it uh we talked about security, we talked about a fence, okay? And I have to admit, I didn't see a fence around the property today. That property is f um free sighted fence. Free sighted. [2:24:49, 2:24:53]: Okay. [2:24:53, 2:25:13]: I'm sorry? It doesn't have to be in the front. It doesn't have to be in the front. Well, I have to admit I didn't get out of my car, but okay. I didn't get out of my car. I didn't walk the property. I just I didn't see one. Okay. And the security aspect, I mean, I mean, I like I said, I didn't get out of my car. So you have something that indicates a secure as well? So uh so [2:25:13, 2:25:33]: So Mayor, before we give her a business license, we I will send my t a team out to inspect to make sure that she's in compliance with the ordinance we just passed. All right and if she pass and uh if she meets all the requirements of the ordinance we just passed, then we will issue her a business license. All right. Why okay? So we'll make sure she got it. That's my case there. All right. I'll just leave it alone. Okay, council. [2:25:33, 2:25:34]: Any other questions, concerns? [2:25:35, 2:25:43]: No. Sorry, this is in my district. Go ahead. Um, and I'd like to wait until after public comments before I make a comment. [2:25:43, 2:25:45]: Anybody else? [2:25:45, 2:25:47]: I I just um [2:25:48, 2:26:01]: I don't have a comment. I'm I'm moved. I thank you for this m Mrs. Battle, Attorney Battle for telling her truth and and speaking what others [2:26:02, 2:26:21]: have thought, um and that there's a need. There's a need and and we have a responsibility to make sure that that need is fulfilled within our our community. Um and you know, we had uh years ago I guess some of the restrictions that [2:26:22, 2:26:42]: per s particularly the generator kind of, you know, I think is a good one for seniors in general with m not you know, a generator is important. Um years ago I remember we had uh one of our former solicitors, there was a group home that was being operated illegally. [2:26:42, 2:27:02]: And we were hound there was one in a subdivision one time, and there was one that was at a residence that was not in a subdivision, but it was up being operated legally, and the uh the the uh people that were in there were uh it did not look like as if they were being treated. [2:27:02, 2:27:06]: treated as as needed, but that was taken care of. [2:27:07, 2:27:11]: through the criminal justice system and so [2:27:11, 2:27:31]: The reason why I asked about the bed and and duh, it it ch you know, it's a group home, so uh state regulated. I wasn't thinking, I'm like, well, what about beds and how does that work? But when you in hindsight, when you really think about it, the states come out twice. They've already did theirs, no different than a daycare center or anything else that [2:27:31, 2:27:51]: has to be regulated by the state as well as by us. And so I'm definitely in support um of the need. We have to we can't be selfish and look at just our needs as individuals, but but years to come, our parents, our family members, [2:27:51, 2:28:03]: our loved ones and the need within our community alone. Um and so uh you know I'm for it and um I hope that my colleagues will be as well. [2:28:04, 2:28:09]: Yes, go yes, sir. Okay. [2:28:10, 2:28:30]: Yeah, I I just thank you for yielding. I just I just want to again echo w what I was trying to say earlier is that sometimes we we over politicize stuff and it's really not about the politics of it. It's it's about the compassion. And uh to to see, you know, to see people. I think some [2:28:30, 2:28:50]: Sometimes we see conditions, we see statistics, we see distance, but we don't see people. And and it and it goes against every fabric of who we are as people that when we take a away our ability to serve and to love and to see, uh, we dehumanize ourselves. [2:28:50, 2:28:52]: And it makes us [2:28:54, 2:29:14]: quite frankly, it it it it it makes us demonized to the point to where uh we can't do the simplest thing, which is what we are required to do, is to love one another. To to love one another as Christ loved the church. And I hate to to take it there, but that's who I am and that's the essence of who [2:29:14, 2:29:34]: my character is and that the elderly is a vulnerable population, the mental ill is a vulnerable population. The medically fragile is a vulnerable population. Foster kids, vulnerable populations. Um I can go on and on. Um [2:29:34, 2:29:54]: When we talk about family members who have had uh debilitating situations with cancer, with dialysis, with liver failure, kidney what whatever whatever the thing that you cannot imagine that could ever happen, it can happen. And it can happen at a moment that you didn't even expect it and it can come suddenly [2:29:54, 2:30:05]: and it can change your world and it can rock your family and it can change the whole dynamics of of everything you have as a as a as a person. And my granddad used to say this, he said, [2:30:05, 2:30:07]: If if it hadn't hit you today. [2:30:07, 2:30:08]: Keep living. [2:30:09, 2:30:11]: Keep living. If you haven't met trouble. [2:30:12, 2:30:27]: Keep living because if it doesn't show up today, it's gonna come. And when it comes, the measure of it will not be how you handle it. It will be how you treated others in the condition before you. You can't expect grace when you don't give it. [2:30:27, 2:30:37]: You can't expect love when you don't give it. You can't expect some so so as as a as a council, as a citizen, as a person, as a pastor, as a council member. [2:30:39, 2:30:40]: I got a grandmother. [2:30:42, 2:30:42]: I got a mother. [2:30:44, 2:30:49]: I've worked with foster care with the state of Georgia for over twenty five years, retired from the state. [2:30:52, 2:30:53]: Nobody. [2:30:53, 2:30:55]: Considers the less fortunate. [2:30:56, 2:30:58]: Until they're moving across the street. [2:30:59, 2:31:09]: And we try to figure out ways for them not to be there. And we try to figure out ways where where how can we hide'em? Uh how c how can how can we lock our eyes to like c like [2:31:10, 2:31:17]: Jesus' greatest commandments that what you do to the least you said it earlier, what you do to the least of these, you do also unto unto me. [2:31:20, 2:31:26]: But we like to say that we care about the world, we care about everybody, we care about the condition, the human condition. [2:31:27, 2:31:37]: until you gotta help somebody who's less fortunate. I mean really serve, not just look good on TikTok and on on social media, but when you really gotta serve somebody. Mm-hmm. [2:31:38, 2:31:44]: Then it gets distant and then it gets quiet and then people shrink. [2:31:44, 2:31:47]: And that's not the time to shrink, that's the time [2:31:47, 2:31:48]: To stand up. [2:31:50, 2:31:51]: So I I [2:31:52, 2:31:57]: I wish I could do more from this position and from this place. I wish I could do more. [2:32:02, 2:32:05]: I wish I would not be a You need to come to the mic if you can speak come to the mic, please. [2:32:06, 2:32:10]: I said I really appreciate your opinion and um I wish there was more [2:32:11, 2:32:13]: Who things like you because [2:32:13, 2:32:15]: When we on the other side [2:32:15, 2:32:16]: We don't see. [2:32:17, 2:32:20]: at the back of the fence until we cross over. That's right. [2:32:21, 2:32:22]: And um [2:32:24, 2:32:27]: All the stipulation that has been placed there. [2:32:28, 2:32:30]: It's making things more difficult. [2:32:31, 2:32:32]: More spending. [2:32:33, 2:32:37]: And I don't hear anywhere where anybody will give a grant to help. [2:32:39, 2:32:40]: I mortgage my home. [2:32:41, 2:32:42]: To do that. [2:32:43, 2:32:46]: I left my job to pay my full attention to that. [2:32:46, 2:32:48]: Right now they're leaving on my loan. [2:32:49, 2:32:50]: And um [2:32:51, 2:32:54]: Fixing doing whatever I have to do on this loan. [2:32:55, 2:32:57]: And I have been waiting quite a while. [2:32:58, 2:33:01]: And I'm getting hit with more stipulation to add on. [2:33:02, 2:33:14]: So what I need to know is do I have to add on all the stipulations that you'll add on to what the state has already approved? [2:33:15, 2:33:22]: Or is it moving forward to the next person that has to come up with all those requirements? [2:33:28, 2:33:33]: Because when I first applied, before I applied, when I applied for zoning [2:33:35, 2:33:38]: I was told what was the requ what the requirement were. [2:33:39, 2:33:42]: But apparently that it was not [2:33:43, 2:33:50]: It was not re um it was not allowing it anymore. But I was told what was the re the requirement was. [2:33:51, 2:33:53]: And I am reaching all the requirements. [2:33:53, 2:33:55]: The state have its requirements similar. [2:33:56, 2:33:58]: Similar to what it was. [2:33:58, 2:34:02]: and I'm reaching all the state requirements. Even when they came and inspect [2:34:03, 2:34:04]: Both times. [2:34:05, 2:34:07]: Ай, спок бабде пакін. [2:34:08, 2:34:22]: to to the inspector. And both of them were saying, What what is this? You have ample space at the back of the house. Why would you add anything more to that? [2:34:23, 2:34:26]: And I said, I don't know. That's the first time I'm seeing it. [2:34:27, 2:34:29]: I had a personal care home before in Riverdale. [2:34:30, 2:34:31]: And because most people [2:34:32, 2:34:33]: Ask for. [2:34:33, 2:34:35]: Other side of town. [2:34:36, 2:34:38]: This is why I purchased the home over here. [2:34:40, 2:34:40]: And [2:34:41, 2:34:43]: It's not a whole tailspin to me. [2:34:44, 2:34:48]: But I am willing to comply, but I just need to know [2:34:48, 2:34:52]: where I stand with your new requirements. [2:34:54, 2:34:55]: Prior to what was there? [2:34:56, 2:35:15]: I tell you what I I would imagine, good question. I would imagine we need to get a legal opinion on that as well. We just pa that's why I asked what I did earlier, because we just passed something just now. And I that that I understand that. I understand that. That's why I asked the question. Well, okay. Well, what we just passed. So [2:35:15, 2:35:23]: So I guess what it amounts to, and I don't know if Ryan, you wanna answer that, but I've but I understand Miss Battle's attorney, but also we have our own attorney like to write read in on this. Go ahead, sir. [2:35:23, 2:35:37]: Well uh the question was w whether could she be exempt from the requirements? Well basically b basically that's what she's asking is she's exempt from what we just passed because of what's been going on for the previous years, I would say. I t I I I'll refer to our zoning attorney, but um [2:35:39, 2:35:59]: far as my understanding, if we didn't have the the use in place, we didn't have regulations for it and we didn't allow for it. So the law just got to pass f a few minutes ago. So that means from the few minutes ago to now, um, everybody would have to be in compliance with it. But I'll get with Mr. Edmondson and see what we can do to [2:35:58, 2:36:05]: to maybe help her out, uh until we get a an opinion from Valerie. But [2:36:05, 2:36:25]: Everyone must comply with the with the ordinance. The ordinance just got passed. We didn't have anything on the books addressing it because personal care homes were not allowed in the city of Stockbridge. But we'll we'll do what we can uh after I speak. What part of the guidelines are you having the biggest issue with? What part of the law, the guidelines are you having the biggest issue with? Yeah. [2:36:28, 2:36:30]: question is [2:36:33, 2:36:53]: She had filed for a special land use permit under the ordinance based on the uses that were allowed. The c the city did not have regulations in place to regulate it from a business licensing perspective. So I think the question to your legal counsel. [2:36:53, 2:37:13]: Is in light of the fact that she had applied under the special land use permit provisions under your current zoning ordinance, and these are modifications in part to the business licensing and to the zoning ordinance. Technically, what I would say technically. [2:37:13, 2:37:20]: typically would be that those things would not apply to her because she applied before those regulations were put in place, technically. [2:37:22, 2:37:38]: I think that's a question that needs to be answered. Um can you place conditions? The the way around that is to say, okay, if she's not um suscepti if she's not required to comply because she applied before. [2:37:39, 2:37:56]: She would technically be grandfathered in, so to speak. But that does not mean that you cannot place those voluntarily on the applicant. I think she's willing to accept, I think most of them, with the exception of one or two things, because it didn't exist at the time she applied. [2:37:58, 2:38:18]: Come to Mike, if you're gonna talk Brian, couldn't I? I just have a question I would have to present to Valerie since the city is now regulating regulating these things. Will we be opening ourselves up to some liability if we waive some of the requirements, especially those better pertaining to health, safety, and welfare? Well that's what one one second, sir. That's why I asked. [2:38:18, 2:38:38]: Whether or not you mentioned Valerie, but I didn't know whether or not our attorney here would be able to get any type of initial opinion. So what what issues you have a problem with? [2:38:38, 2:38:58]: But come come to if you're gonna speak come to Mike since uh this this one's fine. I'm um it's three people over there. Um we can weigh in on it. It's simply this. She has bested rights for what she's applied to up to this point, right? So she would need a business license and all that stuff this year because if what you just passed would affect business licenses, but since she has her [2:38:57, 2:38:59]: Yeah. [2:38:59, 2:39:07]: Then that would be she would be grandfather into the process up to that point. But if she doesn't get it this go round, then they would apply for her next go round. Are we? [2:39:08, 2:39:28]: She has to apply for a business license. If she gets this approved, she has to apply for a business license to comply with whatever the business license is. For the business license. But I'm saying the fee, the zone. Yeah, that's that's part of the business license. I mean you can get it now, but next year you have to comply with the ordinance. But that would give [2:39:28, 2:39:30]: [9572.1, 9577.7]: Sh because she's applied, she has grandfathered in under what she applied under. [2:39:38, 2:39:41]: Right. So if she goes ahead and completes everything now. [2:39:41, 2:39:45]: then she's fine. When it rolls back around and she has not, then the new [2:39:46, 2:39:50]: ordinances and standards for the business license that you all just passed would kick in. [2:39:51, 2:40:10]: Okay, too many people talking to twelve months. Oh you think twelve month, right? Okay, well that's that's a thought. But you have to keep removing it. If you all pass things that affect your business licenses, anything that would affect it. [2:40:10, 2:40:16]: Everybody's fine until they have to apply for that license again and that's when it comes in unless they have an exemption. [2:40:16, 2:40:22]: Okay. All right. What I'm thinking on this is honestly on a is uh is that [2:40:24, 2:40:44]: What we just passed would have to be adhered to, but we would give you a time limit in order to do it. You wouldn't have to do it immediately, but we would give you twelve months with which to come back and have those requirements met since you and certainly I'm very sympathetic to the things that you have been through and understand. [2:40:44, 2:40:46]: I've done a lot of [2:40:46, 2:41:06]: soul searching and research myself in the past couple of weeks just to understand the need uh that exists and your passion that you mortgage your home and that you've you've you've really went so far beyond what most people would have done because you care makes a difference. It makes a real difference. [2:41:06, 2:41:24]: So I'd be willing to go ahead and do and give you twelve months to, you know, bring on the generator to do the other things that need to be done within twelve months. Hopefully some of the income that would come in would help offset and allow you to get the funds that you need to comply. [2:41:24, 2:41:33]: But that that obviously is uh that's a good idea, but obviously the council needs to agree to that. Plus we need to make sure we got a a good solid legal opinion on this as well before we go forward. [2:41:35, 2:41:35]: Still have it for. [2:41:36, 2:41:39]: I know, I know. I haven't I haven't forgot about a public hearing yet. I know. [2:41:40, 2:41:40]: Okay. [2:41:41, 2:41:43]: Yeah, I I you're right, I haven't. I I know I haven't. [2:41:44, 2:41:47]: Yes. And that's what they're talking about now. [2:41:48, 2:42:08]: I just wanna make sure on the record though, at a minimum she had to be state compliant. At a minimum. I mean, so I just wanna put that in there for the record. I am I am state compliant. I am. Yeah, but I know states sometimes change the laws and rules, and I just wanna make sure in that year time frame that we still stay in compliance with state throughout that process if we grant the business. [2:42:07, 2:42:20]: Right. All right. Every year the year every year the states come, every year they come, you have to renew your license, and if you don't reach the requirement, they cancel your license on you. Every year. [2:42:21, 2:42:22]: Right. [2:42:23, 2:42:32]: All right, since it is a public hearing, so um I'll start on my left side as well. Anybody have any comments for agreement for this to be approved? Any comments for? [2:42:32, 2:42:33]: In the middle. [2:42:34, 2:42:53]: On far right. Any comments against uh this process and um in reference to approval of this personal care on against. On the far left, the middle, far right. Okay, sir. Come on up, name and address please. You have uh negative comments against against this particular ruling. Name and address. [2:42:57, 2:43:17]: My name is Robert Schuhl. I live at 253 Shields Road. That picture up there, my house is directly across the street. At the bottom left corner of that is a two-acre pond. There's no fence in front of that property. We're worried, uh Councilman Alexander, you said somebody wandered off and we found. [2:43:17, 2:43:37]: found them. That's a concern I have. Um there should be a fence in there. And then you guys said something about um spotlights on the property. It's gonna be shining. They've already got one up there that shines in my house and now there's gonna be more shining. I think there needs to be a fence across the front of that. [2:43:37, 2:43:57]: To keep these people from wandering off. That's my concern. And we already have traffic problems with speeding. And if some of these people do get out, these people are going 60, 70 miles an hour down our street. So I think the speed humps would be reasonable. Not saying they're responsible for that. [2:43:57, 2:44:01]: something this the city might consider. Thank you. [2:44:01, 2:44:06]: Thank you for your comments. All right, Council. Uh Ms. Barber, you had some additional comments. [2:44:09, 2:44:17]: after we close public comments. Well pu well, I mean there's no other for or against. I mean we're ready to taper to a motion motion to approve. [2:44:19, 2:44:20]: The public area is closed. [2:44:24, 2:44:30]: This is a district that I represent. This issue has been like a ping pong for nearly a year. [2:44:31, 2:44:38]: Absolutely, I agree with the need of this personal care facility. I've spoken with Miss John. [2:44:38, 2:44:40]: A number of times since last year. [2:44:41, 2:44:47]: So I don't want the record to show that I don't support having personal care homes because I do. [2:44:48, 2:44:58]: City Council District 4 has unique housing needs beyond high density townhome developments and outside of this downtown area. [2:44:58, 2:45:08]: We have unique needs. Most of the areas in my district are legacy residents, and those homes are. [2:45:09, 2:45:15]: Older established homes and established neighborhoods. One of the concerns that I do have. [2:45:15, 2:45:16]: The gentleman. [2:45:16, 2:45:18]: Mr Schulz just mentioned. [2:45:19, 2:45:19]: The lake. [2:45:20, 2:45:22]: That's on his property. [2:45:23, 2:45:24]: That pond [2:45:25, 2:45:26]: Only has fencing. [2:45:27, 2:45:29]: right alongside the roadway. [2:45:31, 2:45:37]: The personal care home only has fencing on three sides. I asked mister Anderson. [2:45:37, 2:45:42]: Will this new text amendment require that the homeowners [2:45:42, 2:45:49]: Um well, for these personal care homes require the entire yard to be fenced. [2:45:50, 2:45:55]: I asked that specifically because I know this particular situation very well. [2:45:58, 2:46:00]: It's a safety concern. [2:46:01, 2:46:08]: And I don't know why that would not be something that staff would take in consideration when they brought this forward for [2:46:08, 2:46:28]: approval without looking at all of the concerns of this particular uh the code has restrictions on fences in the front yard. So about you you you rallied up. The fencing. Yeah fencing in the front yard. There are restrictions on the fences. Entire yard fencing. I asked you about that. The code the code doesn't allow that [2:46:28, 2:46:29]: Okay. [2:46:29, 2:46:38]: The current the current UDC does not allow that, so we'll have to amend the UDC. Does it require entire property be fenced? [2:46:39, 2:46:47]: No, just three quarters. Okay. Well, in this particular instance, there is a pond right across the street. [2:46:48, 2:46:51]: The the the There are no sidewalks, curb and gutters. [2:46:52, 2:46:54]: Nothing. The pun should have a fence around it. [2:46:54, 2:46:55]: Sorry. [2:46:55, 2:46:59]: The the pun should have a fence around it to protect people. The pond does. [2:46:59, 2:47:01]: Only along the roadway. [2:47:02, 2:47:16]: So there's uh what about the furniture of the pun? There's no you should know that. I don't know. I'm saying the pun is required the pun is required to be finished. I do if I can finish my comments here. If I do um [2:47:16, 2:47:22]: If I can. I support this personal care home. What I don't want is to oversaturate. [2:47:22, 2:47:24]: my district [2:47:24, 2:47:26]: With personal care homes again. [2:47:27, 2:47:28]: Again. [2:47:28, 2:47:30]: The northern eastern [2:47:31, 2:47:32]: End of my district. [2:47:33, 2:47:34]: Is all [2:47:35, 2:47:37]: Neighborhood streets. [2:47:37, 2:47:46]: Neighborhood streets in which I have been consistently told, even though there are safety concerns. [2:47:47, 2:47:49]: That roadway Shills Road [2:47:50, 2:47:51]: is a cut through road. [2:47:52, 2:48:01]: And there are a lot of pedestrians who speed up and down that road. I have brought that to the council's attention every single time mister Scholes has been here. [2:48:02, 2:48:05]: He has come to this council at least. [2:48:06, 2:48:16]: I don't know, five times between last year and this ye well, maybe two years ago and this year, he sent a number of emails to this council. [2:48:17, 2:48:21]: They even completed a petition for speed bumps. [2:48:23, 2:48:36]: So for y'all to sit here and now pretend like oh y'all concerned about oh the needs of the community, really? This is my district, but yet you've approved non-high density residential townhomes in my district. [2:48:37, 2:48:38]: My district. [2:48:39, 2:48:41]: I'm not done with my public comments. [2:48:41, 2:48:42]: I will continue. [2:48:43, 2:48:45]: The information that I received was [2:48:46, 2:48:48]: Um last year [2:48:48, 2:48:49]: was inaccurate. [2:48:52, 2:48:56]: I received some new information just last week. [2:49:00, 2:49:10]: Such businesses, such as personal care homes, specifically in City Council District 4, outside of the downtown. [2:49:10, 2:49:13]: are mostly neighborhoods. [2:49:13, 2:49:14]: And what I don't want [2:49:15, 2:49:18]: There's a whole lot of neighborhoods within a [2:49:19, 2:49:22]: One сквер міль від персонал КЕРХОМС. [2:49:23, 2:49:25]: We need diverse housing options. [2:49:26, 2:49:30]: Алсад агає ось остилтон. [2:49:31, 2:49:32]: We need [2:49:33, 2:49:37]: Senior living facilities, we need single family homes. [2:49:40, 2:49:44]: Personal care homes, of course we want them. We want daycares too. [2:49:47, 2:49:58]: I do support this, but we need to figure out what to do with the safety concerns for this particular area. I am concerned about the ponds. [2:49:59, 2:50:00]: I am. [2:50:01, 2:50:06]: I'm concerned about, you know, if the fencing requirement that we have [2:50:07, 2:50:07]: For [2:50:08, 2:50:21]: the personal care home is adequate or if you're going to require now that the homeowner who has the pond on his lot now he has to add more fencing to accommodate this personal care home. [2:50:22, 2:50:28]: There's a safety concern. There's no sidewalks or curb and gutters along that roadway. [2:50:30, 2:50:35]: This has been like a ping pong ball since last year. I want to get it resolved. [2:50:36, 2:50:56]: And Mr. Edmundson, if you can offer some suggestions on how I can go about um ensuring the folks in my district are safe, especially this personal care home. I don't mind approving this with um or grandfathering her in, but we need to address the safety concerns alongside [2:50:56, 2:51:05]: Shields wrote, why do I have to keep constantly having to fight for the needs of my community, the needs of my district? [2:51:05, 2:51:07]: That I've been elected to represent. [2:51:08, 2:51:11]: Why? Why do I have to fight for it every single time? [2:51:13, 2:51:17]: I would like to I asked a question of Mr. Edmondson if you don't mind this battle. [2:51:17, 2:51:30]: I think that you're not traveling with enough information about who's gonna be in the facility before w he can answer that question. So I'd like to respond to that. Okay. Because the people who will be in the facility number one will not have cars. [2:51:30, 2:51:38]: They will not have cars, number two. There may be most of the most of them are there may be visitors, I'm sure. [2:51:38, 2:51:58]: There may be visitors, but what I'm saying is the residents who we are concerned about in terms of their safety, most of them will not I mean not in none of them will have cars, number one, and most of them will be non-ambulatory. In other words, they're in wheelchairs, they will not be out, they will not be walking down the road, they will [2:51:58, 2:52:17]: will not be crossing over to the pond because there will always be a staff person. Um most of them will be, you know, taken out for, you know, day trips and things like that off site. But what they won't be doing is walking up and down the sidewalks or walking down the sidewalk. There are no sidewalks. [2:52:17, 2:52:37]: A again, walking up and down the street or any place else without staff, um, because staff will be probably taking them somewhere off site and not along that um area. So and having a fence along the frontage of the property is not typical, particularly in a residential [2:52:37, 2:52:57]: Context, maybe like a chain link four-foot fence or something like that. But then you would have to have a gate, which means that if the police or somebody, um ambulance or whatever has to come, now they have to tackle and deal with a fence to be able to get up in there. So we would ask not to have that type of a requirement um placed. [2:52:57, 2:53:03]: placed on this particular um uh home. So I'll [2:53:04, 2:53:05]: Defer to you. [2:53:12, 2:53:17]: What what was the question again? I'm sorry. [2:53:18, 2:53:30]: a ping palm since last year. If if the city did not have the appropriate um ordinances in place or the business license structure for [2:53:30, 2:53:32]: Issuing it last year. [2:53:32, 2:53:41]: Why has it taken a year for us to get to this point? So let's stop politicizing every issue, especially when it comes to my district. [2:53:42, 2:53:50]: All I want to know is what is best for me to ensure the safety of the residents in the area. [2:53:50, 2:54:04]: Not just this personal care home, where not this partic not just this particular personal care home, but any other personal care home that may come in my district or any other parts of our city. Right. Please. [2:54:05, 2:54:25]: Um yes man, as we uh said before, uh this one is a little bit different because of course it got grandfathered in, but anyone subsequent from this from tonight will have those restrictions in place. I believe those restrictions in place will ensure the safety of, you know, the housing and the neighborhood that we talked about because there's a whole lot more restrictions on [2:54:25, 2:54:26]: [10466.9, 10486.9]: behind this particular one. Um and like I said before, I think it's not a one size fit all. I believe that staff will be heavily engaged going forward in these type of different areas to seeing these these challenges that may or may not exist. Is there a lot of traffic? Is it you know uh speeding on that roads, all those things would be considered, I believe. [2:54:46, 2:55:06]: When the applicant come before council to apply for that business license, right? Those are some of the things that we can talk about and ask and say, you know, you know, stab, have you done your research on that? Have you noticed any things dealing with traffic or any concerns? Are there any ponds or lakes in the area? And I just believe that that's the time to have that conversation based off [2:55:06, 2:55:11]: off the applicant's, you know, or the location of the applicant after this particular situation. [2:55:13, 2:55:16]: Mayor Ford, I'd like to um make a motion. [2:55:17, 2:55:20]: Alright yeah. Okay. I move to approve. Um [2:55:21, 2:55:33]: Staff's uh recommendation to approve the special use permit to allow personal care home to operate on property at 270 SHIELS Road within an existing single family detached resident. [2:55:34, 2:55:40]: The property is located in land lot seventy of District Twelve and City Council District Four. [2:55:40, 2:55:44]: It will be grandfathered in based on the recommendations of staff. [2:55:45, 2:55:59]: There for clarification, it certainly needs to be a twelve month situation where the compliance is brought into compliance and then twelve months to bring it into the existing compliance. [2:55:59, 2:56:02]: Well that's that's up to whether or not she sept that to be part of her motion. [2:56:04, 2:56:05]: You step to be part of your motion? [2:56:06, 2:56:10]: Yeah, I accept anything anybody else wanna offer. What what else you wanna offer? [2:56:10, 2:56:12]: You got that in the motion? I'm ready to move on. [2:56:13, 2:56:14]: I'm ready to move on. [2:56:15, 2:56:19]: All right. Mr. Alexander second all in favor, please indicate. [2:56:20, 2:56:22]: Now it's decision. Thank you. All right. [2:56:24, 2:56:44]: All right, discuss new business. The Stockbridge Municipal Court is offering an amnesty program for individuals with outstanding traffic violation cases. The program specifically waives um failure to appear FTA arrest warrants for traffic offenses, allowing people to resolve their cases without fear and of arrest. The program will run from September 4th. [2:56:44, 2:56:49]: First to uh September thirtieth, twenty twenty five. Miss Stanley, please. [2:56:50, 2:57:10]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Evening. My name is Janae Stanley. I'm the court administrator for a municipal court, and I am here tonight recommending that the council adopt an amnesty program to take place September 1st through September 30th and to occur each year thereafter. What is an [2:57:10, 2:57:12]: Amnesty program. [2:57:16, 2:57:36]: An amnesty program is an initiative offering individuals with outstanding fines, warrants, or unresolved cases an opportunity to settle their matters during a specific time period without the uh additional penalties. The goal is to reduce outstanding warrants and license suspensions, clear to court the court. [2:57:36, 2:57:37]: Yeah. [2:57:38, 2:57:41]: And to help individuals avoid further legal complications. [2:57:43, 2:57:49]: The problems addressed with um an amnesty program or um campaign [2:57:49, 2:58:09]: is uh to help individuals resolve their risk of arrest, difficulty obtaining employment, driver's license issues, again the court's mounting backlog and inefficient use of resources, having to house older files, even though we are um 90% paperless, we still uh have to file [2:58:09, 2:58:26]: Well we still hold on to files where that have not been resolved and the community. Um it's uh uh widely known that traffic stops involving a outstanding warrant can be considered more dangerous than a regular traffic or routine stop. [2:58:26, 2:58:32]: And so um this would address that as well and the general lack of trust in the justice system. [2:58:34, 2:58:41]: The benefits again is um to individuals helping to avoid arrest and potential jail time, resolve cases without the penalties. [2:58:41, 2:58:45]: Having a clean record and offering the community a fresh start. [2:58:45, 2:59:05]: Uh, with the court, we will be able to recoup revenues that are owed to us. Again, the efficient use of resources, community improved public safety, and um we could prevent people from committing new offenses. Oh my PowerPoint. Sorry, I'm so sorry. I'm sleepy. [2:59:05, 2:59:11]: Huh, you got it. Thank you. I'm sorry. Um [2:59:12, 2:59:17]: reduced res criminal recidivism, people who are already suspended wouldn't [2:59:18, 2:59:21]: have the temptation of continuing to drive if they [2:59:21, 2:59:33]: Um were made aware again that they have an outstanding offense and we're given the opportunity to address that and then just enhance community trust in the justice justice system, general just goodwill. [2:59:35, 2:59:40]: Okay, and so we are recommending that the program be [2:59:40, 3:00:00]: made available to everyone who has a traffic violation, a city ordinance violation, um misdemeanors, um any sort of citation or case in municipal court that is in FTA status. Of course the school safety zone would not be included. Um we don't really um [3:00:00, 3:00:13]: manage that anyway. We just do the hearings for it. The time frame again September 1st through September 30th. And what's being waived would be the hundred dollar FTA fee. [3:00:15, 3:00:24]: And the hundred and fifty dollar warrant fee waived if the fine is paid in f in full, we wouldn't be lifting warrants for people unless they came into court. [3:00:24, 3:00:44]: Um, they could either walk in or just contact us and schedule a hearing during our business hours. And um if they miss that next court date, we would just reinstate the fee. Individuals would have to pay in full by credit or debit card andor money order, and probation would be uh available to those. [3:00:44, 3:00:48]: that were eligible just like regular probation operates right now. [3:01:01, 3:01:21]: Implementation. Um the court would send out letters to everyone who has an outstanding traffic citation. Uh we would do text message and um work with our PIO to have it announced on our social media outlets as well as the court's website. Um we would also uh arrange additional court cases. [3:01:21, 3:01:32]: calendars if necessary. And I just want to highlight that this is an this initiative is common to municipal courts, courts that have done it recently, Atlanta, Brookhaven, Chambly. [3:01:33, 3:01:40]: You see the list there, Douglasville, Dorville, Duluth, Forest Park, Lovejoy, South Fulton, Stonecrest, Wood, Woodstock are just a few. [3:01:41, 3:01:46]: And from my research, um, courts are able to clear five to twenty five percent. [3:01:46, 3:01:53]: of um old citations. That's closing them and uh getting those funds. [3:01:53, 3:02:01]: And finally, there are no additional costs associated with the program other than the postage we will use to mail the letters. So in summary [3:02:03, 3:02:23]: Uh an amnesty program in in the city of Stockbridge would create a positive impact on individuals, on the court, in our community by giving individuals a fresh start and assisting with clearing cases, and it would just foster a sense of accessibility and equity within the justice system. And that's all I have. [3:02:23, 3:02:25]: Mm-hmm. Questions? [3:02:26, 3:02:33]: I'd like to make a motion to approve the amnesty program proposed as presented by the Ms. Municipal Court. [3:02:34, 3:02:38]: Yes. Okay, m Mr Berry secondary. All favor please indicate. [3:02:39, 3:02:42]: Yeah, it's a season. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. [3:02:43, 3:02:50]: All right, uh council consideration to approve selection of an entertainer attorney. I'm assuming uh Sean, you have this? [3:02:58, 3:03:02]: Uh uh Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Is this a personnel matter? [3:03:03, 3:03:23]: It I would say it probably is. Okay. Uh but I like to move this to the personnel to the executive session. I know we have one other thing we have to talk about in the executive session real quick with the development authority, but if it's selecting a entertainment lawyer, then this may need to go under the executive session as well. Or personnel real estate. [3:03:23, 3:03:24]: and liga litigation. [3:03:26, 3:03:28]: It doesn't fall under under those mail. [3:03:29, 3:03:35]: You don't think it falls under personnel? We always talk personnel in executive session. [3:03:35, 3:03:38]: For a contractor? Mm-hmm. Oh, okay. Well [3:03:40, 3:03:40]: For legal. [3:03:41, 3:03:44]: I mean that's just what we normally would do. [3:03:45, 3:03:48]: Okay, so what happened I'm sorry, Mayor Forrest. Go ahead, please. [3:03:48, 3:03:52]: This next item was a council discussion of the city manager spending [3:03:52, 3:03:57]: Which item number are we on? Five six six six no oh okay, sorry. [3:03:58, 3:04:04]: And then we come out and then we vote on who that person is that we select. [3:04:07, 3:04:11]: Ms. Edmondson, you heard that? I I did. Okay. Okay. [3:04:11, 3:04:15]: Council, that's uh make sure that we're rest of the council, you good with that? [3:04:16, 3:04:24]: Yes, yes, yeah. Well we got no yes, yes, sir, we got a discussion. What what were you planning on doing? [3:04:25, 3:04:29]: Uh yes, we had a recommendation. I was trying to find my stuff in my package. [3:04:30, 3:04:31]: Number six. [3:04:41, 3:04:55]: Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. Can we um take care of number seven before we go into executive session? Yeah we we plan to to discuss. We we plan to. I had uh it's missing a sheet. Is it [3:04:55, 3:04:57]: Yeah, what I don't see it in here either. [3:05:01, 3:05:03]: I'm gonna leave it at easy. [3:05:04, 3:05:12]: It doesn't uh leave it at P it's No, it was a actual another form that had the three on there. And it's the uh [3:05:14, 3:05:15]: Okay. [3:05:16, 3:05:28]: Okay. So we're gonna discuss this in the second session then. We can.'Cause you don't you don't have anything present to us right now, is that correct? Correct. Okay.'Cause we I had the name and the and the breakdown is just not inside here'cause it wasn't I guess provided enough time. [3:05:30, 3:05:39]: So we'll go to the next session. We have to we'll go to the second session and discuss that then. Okay. All right, sir. And I imagine our legal attorney here. Is that all right with you, sir? [3:05:40, 3:05:51]: Okay. All right. Uh number seven discussion. Council discussion of city manager's spending authority, returning to the spending and contracting author authority up to uh twenty five thousand without city council approval. [3:05:51, 3:05:54]: And Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. [3:05:54, 3:05:55]: Okay. [3:05:55, 3:06:02]: This was an item that I requested to add to the agenda um because you were spending an approving contract for the [3:06:03, 3:06:17]: amphitheater and concerts, um, but I don't think it's necessary now that we have a new city manager. I think we need to allow him the opportunity to show us um that he can be fiscally responsible and I believe that he will be. [3:06:19, 3:06:32]: All right, so otherwise to uh remove this from the agenda. Okay, you made a motion to a sec ms again second all in favor indicate? [3:06:33, 3:06:35]: Okay, so now she says, [3:06:36, 3:06:41]: Well, what was what was the motion? The motion to remove this item from the agenda. Okay, thank you. [3:06:43, 3:06:54]: So for m to so for Mr Alzheimer Ms. Gantt all all approved? Okay. Um announcements oncoming meeting events. I'm s I'm sorry, Miss [3:06:56, 3:06:57]: Okay, all right. [3:06:59, 3:07:18]: Upcoming meetings and uh meetings and announcements, uh council meetings will be held in the council chamber. Uh city council chamber meeting dates and location times are subject to change or contact city hall offices at seven seven zero three eight nine seventy nine hundred or visit the website of www.stockbridgega.org flow dates. [3:07:19, 3:07:39]: Citywide Development Authority, a meeting is held on the second Tuesday of each month in the Levi meeting room and the next meeting is August six PM. Next meeting is August twelfth. Community zoning information meeting has been canceled for this month. The third and final uh military public hearing and adoption has been rescheduled and will take place on Monday. [3:07:39, 3:07:59]: August 18th to 10 a.m. in the city council chambers. The downtown development authority meetings are held on the third Tuesday of each month in the Downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Heritage, Senior Heritage Trail, and that'll be 6 p.m. on August 19th. The Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting will be held on the third Tuesday. [3:07:58, 3:08:18]: Tuesday of each month, City Hall, leave our room at 6:30 on once again on August 19th. The Planning Commission meeting is canceled for this month, and the City Council work session meeting will be held on the last Tuesday of each month in the City Hall Council Chambers, which will be August 26th. Upcoming, upcoming, ooh, upcoming city events and initiatives. [3:08:19, 3:08:39]: Join Main Street for the Tiny Tent Concert Series Friday, 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. on at the Stockbridge Connection Center, 130 ML King Heritage, Senior Heritage Trail. Bring you long chairs, of course. And uh join Councilman Thomas and Councilman Berry for partnership for the month monthly Bingo Bash on Wednesday, August. [3:08:39, 3:08:53]: August 20th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon, Merrill Manor's Conference Center. Join Mayor Pro Tem Gamp for a free line dancing class on Wednesday, August 20th from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. in Merrill Manor's Concerts Concert Conference Center. [3:08:54, 3:09:14]: Bring your own fan. I join Mayor Anthony Ford for a monthly meeting the mayor on Monday, August 25th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon in the city hall. And meetings are by appointment. The Economic Development Department hosts a free business health clinic on the second Thursday of each month from 9 a.m. to 12 uh noon. The Stockbridge Connection Center, 130 ML King Hand. [3:09:14, 3:09:34]: Heritage Senior Heritage Trail and check the health of your businesses with this free clinic. Sign up for real-time alerts about severe weather and road closures and emergencies on the regroup app. Visit the city's website or social media pages for more information on how and where to sign up. Stay safe. Municipal election qualifying [3:09:34, 3:09:54]: Qualifying takes place on Monday, August 18th to Friday, August 22nd, uh from 8 30 to uh 4 30 p.m. And of course the the clerk's office will be closed from 12 to 1 for lunch. More information is available on the city clerk's department page and the city's website at Subbridge G A.org. Please contact [3:09:53, 3:10:13]: Roslin Rawls to schedule an appointment to meet the mayor. For more information on the council initiatives is 678-833-3348 by way of email, ralls at starbridgega.org. The remaining 2025 concert season, Saturday, August uh 16th, Stockbridge Jazz Festival holds. [3:10:13, 3:10:33]: Hosted by Tommy Davison, featuring David Bignall, Jazz Fung F soul, EFX All-Stars, Sandra Corelli, Sony Emory, Norman Brown, Jennifer Holliday, Karen Briggs, Eric Darris, and Kiko Matsui. Saturday, August 30th, Jimmy Jam and Toy Lewis celebrating 40 years. [3:10:33, 3:10:53]: Iconic music featuring performances by Ruben Studdard, Deborah Cox, MC Light, Jordan Knight, Elon Adams, Shantae Moore, Morresday, and Jerome Benton, Sherelle and Ann Nisby, and probably some additional folks that we don't know about thus far. Saturday, September 13th, for Lovers and Friends, featuring Tank with special guests Leif Jennings. [3:10:53, 3:11:13]: And Jenny Wine. Saturday, uh September 6th, and Sunday, September 7th, Southern Soul weekend featuring King George, Tucker, Westlaw, Pokebear, TK Soul, Tawan Moore, and Antonio Armeni. For my comments, obviously the summer has ended, per se. Our practical purposes school is back in order. [3:11:13, 3:11:33]: So the kids are back in school. So wish them well. And uh in this aspect for getting educated and parents and adults, be sure to make sure that when you go through these past the school, that there is a s there's a speed camera there called a red speed uh zone cam red zone speed camera. So if you're going too fast, you will get ticketed. And so uh [3:11:33, 3:11:52]: So be careful going through those school zones. And for your football fans, football is here. As uh we look forward to uh rooting on our favorite team for this foot football season. And high school's on Friday night. There you go. [3:11:53, 3:12:13]: So excuse me, so uh council we have uh zego session to talk about uh real estate uh personnel or legal issues as well as cybersecurity issues. Need a motion to go into zeker session, please. So moved. Okay for Miss Cancer. For real estate personnel litigation and sub and cybersecurity. Second um and Mr. Alzheimer's second down all fair, please indicate. [3:12:13, 3:12:15]: decision. We're going to say we'll be back folks in a little bit. [3:13:20, 3:13:21]: [11605.6, 11609.8]: We're still live, correct? Okay. [3:13:31, 3:13:35]: Council, I need a motion to end the second session, please. So moved. [3:13:35, 3:13:36]: Is there a second? [3:13:37, 3:13:57]: Okay, from Mr. Uh Berry to Miss Barber. Motion has been made. Uh I need to all all in favor, indicate, please indicate. Unanimous decision. Now I need a motion to reconvene our council meeting, please. So move. Okay, is there a second? Second. Okay, from Miss Uh Gantt to Mr. Barber, Mr. [3:13:57, 3:14:15]: Berry, I'm sorry, our in favor, please indicate. Okay, and from our second session, we have something we need to bring forward. Mr. Berry? Yes, I'd like to make a motion that the city of Stockbridge enter a contract with uh Walker and Associates to handle our uh contracts. [3:14:16, 3:14:31]: Second. For entertainment. For entertainment. Entertainment. Entertainment contracts. Okay. Okay. From uh Mr. Barrett and Mr. Alzheimer's are all in favor, please indicate. Now I need a motion to end our council meeting for the this evening. So moved. Sir second. [3:14:32, 3:14:35]: Okay, from Ms. Gantt to Mr. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. [3:14:35, 3:14:38]: Okay, we're adjourned. God bless you all. Thank you. [3:14:43, 3:14:45]: Mm, mm, mm.
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[0:07:00, 0:07:20]: But we understand it's only because of your goodness and your grace that you'll allow us to see it anyway. So now, Father God, we ask that you bless this meeting. Open our minds and hearts, Father God, to where we may listen and and understand what's going on in the creation that you made here in Stockbridge. Father God, we ask for a special blessing on all the council members, all and the mayor and all of the [0:07:19, 0:07:39]: Those that are here and their families, Father God, do we ask for a special blessing? So in the name of your darling son, Jesus that we send this prayer and send that same name, Father God, we ask that you receive it. And let all saints say amen. Amen. We pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic of [0:07:39, 0:07:45]: which stands one nation under God in the visible with liberty and justice. [0:07:46, 0:07:48]: Madam Clerk, roll call please. [0:07:52, 0:07:53]: Good evening, everyone. [0:07:54, 0:07:54]: Evening. [0:07:55, 0:07:56]: President. [0:08:06, 0:08:07]: Present. [0:08:08, 0:08:11]: Present. Thank you, Madam Clerk. I appreciate that. Um [0:08:12, 0:08:15]: Uh Cal I need a uh motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:08:16, 0:08:25]: So moved. Okay, Mr. Alexander's a second. Second. Can Mr. Barba uh Mr. Uh uh Berry second that in all favor please indicate? Hello. Okay, announced decision on that sport. [0:08:25, 0:08:28]: Okay, Madam Clerk, I'm assuming we have public comments, is that correct? [0:08:30, 0:08:50]: Okay. So all persons wishing to speak on public comment must sign in the city clerk prior to beginning the meeting. You must sign your name, address and phone number, and you'll be able to address the mayor and city council for three minutes. Speakers must respect all members of the elected body, officials and staff. Defination, unruliness and or swearing will not be tolerated while meetings are in session. [0:08:50, 0:08:54]: Madam Clerk, uh first individual for public comments, please. Mr. Turner. [0:08:55, 0:08:57]: Okay. Let's turn name and address. [0:09:06, 0:09:26]: Two five four World Away Stockbridge. Again, this is business, this is not personal. It has officially been acknowledged that the city of Stockbridge mismanaged nearly thirty-three million dollars in 2024 under the this counsel, Fred Gardner, and Quentin Washington, our city attorney. I have personally obtained financial [0:09:26, 0:09:46]: Records by the way of open records that shows the years 2022, 2023 were also over the approved budget millions of dollars. Are you going to amend those audits as well? What happens now? Where is the accountability? This cannot just be an oh well moment. The city needs to tell the taxpayers if this act of mismanagement of funds under the [0:09:46, 0:10:06]: This council and Fred Garner is going to be investigated. This city needs to tell the taxpayers who approved these payments. This city needs to tell the taxpayers who issued these payments. The city needs to tell the taxpayers who the payments were issued to. [0:10:05, 0:10:25]: Right under the noses of the city council and city attorney, years of unapproved spending was happening with no oversight. Millions. The former city manager and the city council was asked by Councilwoman Barber on numerous occasions for financial records, ampathy to profit and loss statements, budget and balances and audits. Her requests are well documented. [0:10:25, 0:10:45]: Minute during the public meetings. The city council failed to listen and failed to act on the numerous requests by Councilmember Barber. The council was stuck on the band of three that we hear so much about that you failed to hear her sounding the alarm. She's been trying to tell you all for years that you have issues on your financial department. But because you were deliberately ignoring her, you were ignoring the problem that was right in front of you. [0:10:45, 0:11:05]: Of your face. Had you listened and insisted on the records being provided to her, she very likely would have been able to review the financials and seen that the numbers were not adding up. Councilwoman Barber is the only council member who is in her fifth year in office, has never represented the city council on any other city boards or committees, but another council member is the liaison for the DDA and to which city [0:11:05, 0:11:25]: City taxpayers had to pay$1.7 million in a settlement because of this council members bullying local businesses, but he's able to be a liaison for the DDA. Wow. Councilwoman Barber asked to be appointed to the Finance Committee. Mayor Ford refused to appoint her to the Finance Committee, saying that the former city manager, Fred Gardner, is doing a great job overseeing the city committee. [0:11:25, 0:11:45]: Finance department. Now, thirty-two million dollars later, look where we are. Mayor Ford, do you stand by your statement? We all know things would have been done much different if Councilwoman Barber would have been able to see these city finances by heading up the finance committee. Mayor Ford, I suggest you do the right thing and appoint Councilwoman Barber as chair of the finance committee. The resident of Stockbridge want Capitol. [0:11:45, 0:12:05]: Accountability and transparency as she is the only council member that displays leadership. This matter of thirty two million dollars would not be swept under the rug and is not going away. As I previously stated, the records and transactions involving this amphitheater go back to 2019 with the construction. Councilwoman Gantt recommended we go back and look at the minutes. I did just that and over and over. [0:12:05, 0:12:25]: Over again, there was money being poured into the amphitheater with changes to orders and amendments. There was one adjustment of more than seven hundred thousand dollars without a real explanation. So while the original price tag of the amphitheater was one thing, there were several changes in amendments. What has the amphitheater really cost the taxpayers of the city of Stockbridge? Considering the fact that it's abundantly clear. [0:12:25, 0:12:29]: [752.1, 757.5]: Okay. No, no sir. Three minutes is up. Thank you. [0:12:37, 0:12:43]: Okay. Stand by sir. Stand by. Uh thank you. Miss Mary Calhoun. Ms. Calhoun, please. Name and address. [0:13:00, 0:13:08]: My name is Mary Indie Calhoun, and I live at 608 Creekstone Court in Jonesboro, Georgia. [0:13:09, 0:13:29]: I am concerned about the overall formatting of presented literature and its accuracy as a whole at this point to how to have added thirty-two million to this budget. And the twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, and twenty twenty four data doesn't correlate. [0:13:29, 0:13:49]: With these extraordinarily high numbers. Some public meetings are in the orders. Notwithstanding the explanation, we'd ask for resignations of the voting public will then need to seek to enact recall. The budget summary for 2021. [0:13:49, 0:14:09]: Clearly recaps the data from 2023, present to 2024, and provides the variance in both dollars and percentage. This data presentation is eliminated in the 2025 proposal we are referring to to on pages 20 on the [0:14:09, 0:14:29]: To the page 22 worksheet. The 2025 budget lacks this information, lacks transparency, and insight needed to properly assess the data table. It is unacceptable that the formatting is changed and the citizens are looking forward to the [0:14:29, 0:14:45]: 2026 budget discussion that clearly encompassed and presents the forthcoming year, but also recaps the prior two years history and its variance. We will accept no less than full transparency in the common budget hearing. [0:14:45, 0:15:05]: The argument that ARPA and SP Splosh six funds are absent in the twenty twenty-four accepted budget are being countered by the fact that these same income funds are missing from being presented to the proposed twenty twenty four. [0:15:05, 0:15:07]: Yeah. [0:15:08, 0:15:20]: We see the items are presented in the budget summary of the 2025 accepted budget document, division two hundred thirty, three twenty, three twenty-one, three thirty-five, respectfully. [0:15:21, 0:15:22]: Yet [0:15:22, 0:15:26]: references in the funds is missing in the twenty twenty four. [0:15:27, 0:15:40]: While SPLOS is while SPLOS was only being proposed, there are still projected in revenues and expenses from SPLOS NARPA from 2024. [0:15:41, 0:15:42]: Isn't that correct? [0:15:42, 0:15:45]: Most of us do not look at the budget. [0:15:46, 0:15:59]: Do not look it over, but we are scrutinizing each and every line item expenditure expenditure moving forward. The inflated proposals and questioning uncollected revenues. [0:16:00, 0:16:03]: And that's your time. Thank you very much. Anyone else? [0:16:04, 0:16:07]: Ms. Anika Potts. Ms. Potts, name and address please. [0:16:23, 0:16:30]: Anika Potts, 688, Pathwood Lane, Sockbridge, Georgia. Good evening, Council, Mayor, and Community. [0:16:31, 0:16:34]: I am a member of the Main Street Advisory Board. [0:16:35, 0:16:38]: We are requesting funding for the alleyway project. [0:16:38, 0:16:58]: In 2019, the Main Street program made recommendations to renovate the Burke Street alleyway, which is suffering from lots of issues. Some of the conditions include a decaying storm drain system, water damage to properties, blight conditions, and even and uneven ground and runoff. [0:16:58, 0:17:02]: The utilities were also to be taken underground during this reconstruction. [0:17:03, 0:17:06]: In twenty twenty, the council issued resolution. [0:17:06, 0:17:08]: R twenty twelve twelve. [0:17:08, 0:17:10]: agreeing to fund this project. [0:17:10, 0:17:14]: The board understands that all the elements are currently in place now. [0:17:14, 0:17:16]: And the project is ready to break ground. [0:17:17, 0:17:34]: This project is one of the keys to making our downtown more marketable and its current c uh business owners uh will enjoy it, our visitors along with potential investors. The improvements will give the infrastructure at least another 50 years of life. [0:17:34, 0:17:54]: It will elevate the look and feel of the downtown bish uh business district, excuse me. It will keep the city's promise to the property owners and the whole community. We as the Main Street uh board are here today asking for your support as the economic development staff continues to work diligently. [0:17:54, 0:18:06]: to bring the alleyway project to fruition. We respectfully request that the council agree to support the funds for the project in 2025. Thank you. [0:18:06, 0:18:07]: Thank you. [0:18:09, 0:18:10]: Anybody else, Ms. Halvey? [0:18:12, 0:18:13]: Mr. Willie Hopkins. [0:18:16, 0:18:17]: Mr. Hopkins, name and address, please. [0:18:24, 0:18:28]: Willie Hopkins fifty seven Carriage Lake Drive in the great city of Stockbridge. [0:18:30, 0:18:35]: Good evening, Mayor. Good evening. Mayor Pro Tem and the Honourable City Council. [0:18:37, 0:18:45]: I have the privilege to serve as the chairman of the Main Street Advisory Board. And I'm joined here with my colleagues that serve with me on that board. I would like to ask them to stand with me at this time. [0:18:49, 0:18:50]: Council. [0:18:51, 0:18:53]: This board are committed to [0:18:53, 0:18:57]: to support and continue the growth and vitality of our downtown district. [0:18:58, 0:19:01]: I wanna thank you for this opportunity to stand before you this evening. [0:19:01, 0:19:03]: To provide you with a brief update. [0:19:04, 0:19:06]: on the ongoing work within our Main Street Advisory Board. [0:19:07, 0:19:11]: As downtown district as the downtown district continues to grow. [0:19:11, 0:19:22]: With new businesses, increased foot traffic, and expanded community engagement, the Main Street Advisory Board and Economic Development are submitted committed to HIPS promoting [0:19:22, 0:19:26]: Local entrepreneurship and embracing the quality of life here in the city of Stockbridge. [0:19:27, 0:19:28]: How do we do this? [0:19:29, 0:19:36]: We do this by supporting momentum through the thoughtful prompt programming and structural improvements and proactive policy reviews. [0:19:37, 0:19:54]: I'm excited at this time to share a few successful initiatives that we've done this year that brought footprint, foot traffic, and active public spaces within our downtown district. One, the Tiny Tent. That's a flexible, low-cost pop-up market format supporting our small vendors. [0:19:55, 0:20:15]: Two, farm the table market that cultivates marketplace promoting local agriculture and small businesses. Three, get the step and fitness walk. That's a health forward program designed to engage residents and engage them in walking during our downtown area. These programs are fostered in [0:20:15, 0:20:27]: increasing committed engagement and versatility of our downtown businesses. As the board continues to support and work with economic development, economic development has continued to move forward with two important instructional initiatives. [0:20:27, 0:20:38]: The alleyway active activation project, which focuses on transform unutilization alley space into a safe, attractive press pedestrian corrid corridors and support retail and community activities. [0:20:38, 0:20:39]: Two. [0:20:39, 0:20:46]: North or southern parking extension. And that's aimed at improving downtown accessibility and accommodating future growth. [0:20:48, 0:21:08]: These projects support long-term goals that this council has already been initiative to and understand that it was in the RSVP. And it also helps us connect in economic vitality in a place of marketing for our city. Economic Development and Main Street staff appreciates this council for your ongoing support and looks forward. [0:21:08, 0:21:12]: forward to continued collaboration as we go forth to make this city the best city in the state of Georgia. [0:21:14, 0:21:19]: With the increase of new businesses and new footprint traffic that's coming down to our city. [0:21:19, 0:21:32]: And with new challenges, s it have natural um emerges high it have challenges naturally that emerges high liability um gaps in [0:21:32, 0:21:39]: Sure, your time. Y is there any more do you are you finished? I need some about two m about another third second. Hold on second. Is d do we wanna give him extra time? [0:21:39, 0:21:41]: I listen, it's [0:21:42, 0:22:02]: I'm a yes, absolutely. It's the main street board. But I I didn't understand why they weren't on the agenda and doing doing this during public comment. But I have no problem with it. I actually support it because I I wanna ask some questions because it should be a presentation. I'd just like to make a motion to put them on the agenda. [0:22:02, 0:22:06]: So that we can have a full discussion. Yeah. [0:22:10, 0:22:21]: Okay. That was gonna be my request. Yeah. All right, go ahead. In order to be fair to all citizens, we can't extend time or not send it otherwise up to have more. [0:22:23, 0:22:28]: Okay. So we'll make a motion to put'em on the agenda. Okay. The Main Street board on the agenda. [0:22:29, 0:22:37]: That's the second to the motion? Mr. Um Berry's second. All in favor? Please and okay? Okay. Continue on continue on, sir. [0:22:40, 0:22:41]: Thank you, Bo. [0:22:41, 0:23:01]: Let let's just bring him back up when when when that time comes so he can so to be fair, we didn't give anybody else any extra time. Let's just bring him back up when that time comes. So you can finish your complete speech when the agenda item comes. We'll put him on the agenda first. Okay, good idea. On that note. So I'll what I'll do. Thank you, sir. Uh we'll we'll do it right after review of the minutes. Um [0:23:01, 0:23:14]: Yep, go ahead. Sit down. I'll bring it back when view the minutes here, which is one simple statement. It'd be it'd be be shortly. Just have a seat. Have a seat for a brief moment. All right. All right. And uh Madam Clerk, you have that noted, is that correct? [0:23:16, 0:23:36]: Okay. All right, then thank you. Okay. So on that note, review the minutes review July fifteenth, twenty twenty-five council meeting minutes. Once you review those, if there are any changes to those, make sure you get those changes to the clerk, and we'll approve that at our next uh meeting in uh which will be in August. I believe it's August 11th. Now, uh yeah, so uh what we have next is presentation, but before we get into presentation, [0:23:35, 0:23:44]: Presentations, all right. If you don't mind, uh come on backing up, sir. Uh come on back up and finish out your presentation, Main Street President. [0:23:46, 0:23:46]: Okay. [0:23:49, 0:23:49]: All right. [0:23:55, 0:23:56]: I think you uh [0:23:56, 0:24:16]: Council m uh mayor counsel for this opportunity to come back before you. Good deal. Uh as I continue, uh Mayor, to maintain the downtown district forward momentum and avoid disruption, economic development and Main Street staff will be undertaking a comprehensive review of key policies. This effect will focus on aligning existing rel uh regulation. [0:24:16, 0:24:31]: with evolving needs of a modern, active downtown district. Some key areas that the board should be looking at is open container ordinance. And this is the evaluating the impact on both the public safety and the cultural verocity of this district. [0:24:31, 0:24:32]: Private event. [0:24:32, 0:24:42]: Policy, reviewing the frequency and structure of events hosted by private entities to ensure a balance and accessibility for the safety of our citizens. [0:24:42, 0:24:56]: Shared parking management, and this is the identifying strategies to better coordinate and optimize limited parking resources. And there may be other additional areas that may be under consideration, and this is to improve clarity, fairness, and operational efficiency. [0:24:57, 0:25:06]: Uh these reviews will result in thoughtful recommendations intended to support the downtown district's growth, particularly in reinforcing its arts and entertainment culture. [0:25:07, 0:25:11]: While promoting fairness, sustainability for all our stockholders. [0:25:11, 0:25:13]: The Main Street Advisor Board is [0:25:13, 0:25:14]: Generally. [0:25:15, 0:25:17]: And genuinely excited about the future decision. [0:25:18, 0:25:19]: Stockbridge Downtown District. [0:25:20, 0:25:21]: The main street advisor board remains. [0:25:22, 0:25:24]: And I say this with no uncertain terms. [0:25:25, 0:25:25]: Remain. [0:25:26, 0:25:29]: The number one committed hardest working boy in this city. [0:25:29, 0:25:31]: And we will continue to do that to support this board. [0:25:33, 0:25:33]: In the meantime. [0:25:34, 0:25:35]: As we continue to do that [0:25:36, 0:25:41]: We are dedicated to ensuring downtown d our downtown district enca encompass and [0:25:41, 0:25:47]: Income as a growth as it vibr as a vibrant, accessible, and well managed area for everyone who lives. [0:25:47, 0:25:49]: Works and invests in this city. [0:25:50, 0:26:00]: And Mayor, I humbly thank you again. This concludes my little portion. Okay and if anything, any question you may have, I stand available to pretty sure we do. All right. [0:26:00, 0:26:03]: And I forgot who the layers on. [0:26:03, 0:26:23]: It's Councilman uh Afonso Thomas. Okay, all right, gotcha. All right. Mayor. Go right, please. Um a couple of things. When we had our retreats, the Alloway project is something that we've already approved. We've approved funding and we also um asked what the holdup is. I don't think you don't have the mayor's and council support on that. I think [0:26:23, 0:26:40]: think everybody on mayor council agreed that we want that completed. Um so we haven't had a city manager in about six months, quite almost six months. So [0:26:40, 0:26:49]: Maybe that could be the holdup, but I'm not sure what the holdup is. We would have to speak to our economic development director, if you don't mind, Mr. Uh [0:26:50, 0:26:57]: Sanders. Sand Sanders coming up. Um and also Lisa um if you don't mind coming up. [0:26:57, 0:27:01]: Because we need to figure out where we are and [0:27:01, 0:27:05]: where we're headed with that. I don't think anybody on this [0:27:05, 0:27:12]: We've we are all in agreement with that. Um so we appreciate you guys giving us a update on it, but [0:27:13, 0:27:13]: Um [0:27:14, 0:27:17]: A there were some times when I asked about it. [0:27:17, 0:27:37]: And the previous Main Street director at one point had said that they had to hold off. There were some certain things that had to be done. And that was through the engineering firm. So it's not a whole you want to make sure you get it done right, right? You got I don't know if you have easements or certain things you need to do. There was a debate on crush and run. There were debate on different types of [0:27:37, 0:27:47]: of things that need to uh no need to be done, but just letting you know, you know, uh everybody on here agreed [0:27:47, 0:27:50]: I'm just waiting to hear when y'all are gonna get started. [0:27:50, 0:27:52]: And then in addition to that [0:27:53, 0:28:13]: Um, I guess number two in regards to policies and procedures. Um is from my understanding there are some concerns about events and the way those policies and procedures ought to take place. I think our legal team as well as Mayor and Council needs to be involved. Um we did an open container district just as Savannah or any other downtown would do. [0:28:13, 0:28:33]: Do with a 16-ounce drink from the establishments in that downtown area. And there's actually a map that's applied. So, um, there are some concerns with some of the constitutional language, maybe in regards to smoking or stuff like that, that we might need to take a look at. But other than that, um [0:28:32, 0:28:52]: You guys have our full one hundred percent support as far as I'm concerned. I can't speak for everybody else, but I definitely support Main Street. Um well you wanna make sure that it's fair for all. I've received concerns, um, you know, in regards to certain things and I think the mayor and council where it's [0:28:52, 0:29:00]: stands we have a new city manager um coming in so we should be able to iron out some of those those kinks. [0:29:01, 0:29:21]: Did you need to respond to that now? Well, just real quickly, I was gonna say thank thank you, Councilwoman Gantt, and and thank you all as a council as a whole for supporting downtown. Uh it is very much appreciated. Um I was aware that there was generally a funding source, but I was not entirely clear that, and I'm assuming Councilwoman Glant. [0:29:21, 0:29:34]: And the council can correct me, is it SPLOST six? Because although I know we talked about it in the retreat, I won't I'll say that you know maybe it was my mistake that I walked away without being clear. [0:29:35, 0:29:53]: that it was splot six. So if you are saying now that money is definitely in place, we will run with that. Because uh we have uh done a lot of preliminary work in terms of working with the engineers and walking in and getting an understanding about historically what's happened and what hasn't happened, and we are ready to go. [0:29:53, 0:30:11]: if there is a consensus on the funding source. So I'll I'll get to work on it tomorrow. But but the engineers are waiting for us to get back with them and we just need clarity on, you know, the the funding source that we are to use. And if if if that was a financial director at all about it? [0:30:12, 0:30:32]: I'm sorry. Have you spoken to the finance director about? We've had a number of internal conversations about it. And in fact, at some point the staff will be bringing some recommendations before you all on all capital, uh, not just this one, but all capital. But as far as being clear on the funding source, if the clarification is coming from you all this evening. [0:30:31, 0:30:35]: that spot six is it, I will proceed. [0:30:35, 0:30:55]: Well, I can't do that without listening to our finance director, but in the past that money was allocated and set aside for specifically for the alleyway. I mean we had we had a list. So we need to if we need to meet or maybe have a retreat with council and that's something I'm gonna bring up anyway. I I want the development authority and the C [0:30:55, 0:31:15]: City Council to have a retreat together. So maybe we should meet um with the Main Street and do a dual meeting and just kind of work out some of the kinks on what was expected, what's needed, and look at the financial portion of it. But it's been in it's been in play for a minute. Yeah, because I was unaware of it. It was uh told to me. [0:31:15, 0:31:35]: Our previous uh Main Street director had said that it there was a halt because of certain things that needed to be done from the engineering side and design side. We have completed that part of it. And my understanding and and I'm I'm still new a little bit myself to the city, my understanding was that there was funding in place, several hundred thousand dollars of funding in place to do the project. [0:31:35, 0:31:55]: Four or five years ago or so and coming on board and hearing about that, I certainly inquired about it, but I don't know where that funding is right now. We can use it or not. So if it's if it's available, certainly we'd love to use it so that we can get the project going. And if it needs to come from another source, I'm certainly willing to do whatever we need to do in order to advance the project. [0:31:55, 0:32:03]: Because from the staff's perspective, and and of course uh Lisa can speak for herself, but we as a unified staff, along with the DDA. [0:32:03, 0:32:23]: And the Main Street, we're very anxious to get started with both of the projects that uh the chair spoke of and and others. So there's landscaping to be good on. There's there's there's a multitude of things that need to be done in downtown, uh including utility relocation, so forth and so on, which I won't go into, but we're anxious to get started on all [0:32:23, 0:32:31]: All of those things and advance them for the purposes of downtown being realized, its true potential can be realized. [0:32:32, 0:32:41]: Mayor, can we can I make a suggestion and we put that on our agenda for the next retreat that we have? We definitely do that. That's the only problem. Mr. Alexander, go ahead. [0:32:41, 0:32:42]: That's unnecessary. [0:32:43, 0:33:03]: The the people are just listen, with all due respect, people are tired of you talking, okay? And they want to see action amongst things to just happen. And uh there's no reason in the last six months that that project couldn't have moved forward. It's twenty-one million dollars in the SPLOSS 5 account. Twenty-one million dollars. And then [0:33:03, 0:33:08]: And we're collecting splas six now. Now Mr. Edmundson, come to the mo come to the podium. [0:33:09, 0:33:18]: We we don't have to keep talking. You sir, who are gonna have to come forward as well. [0:33:19, 0:33:27]: Uh finance director. No, no, not you. I'm talking about a finance director. Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna call him out. Well, you might as well step up here now. Right, he's gonna come up here next. [0:33:29, 0:33:30]: Just hold on a minute. [0:33:31, 0:33:34]: This this is what we gotta understand. [0:33:35, 0:33:55]: You are our new city manager, you're brought here to understand the frustration, not just amongst the main street board, the DDA created a resolution to actually move this project forward too, because we want to see things happen. You have seen there is a consensus right up here right now. [0:33:55, 0:34:15]: There's money in the bank to move this project forward. Right. We can meet till we are and talk this to death. We just had a retreat a couple of months ago about over at the beautiful render, right? We had a retreat over there. We talked about it for the tenth time. Right. Right. The idea is we need someone actionable. [0:34:15, 0:34:35]: To take some actionable steps to move the project forward. The engineering is complete, the right-of-way acquisition is complete. We need someone to go ahead and manage the project so that it actually happens. Now, we requested the the funding analysis from uh the finance department. He [0:34:35, 0:34:55]: Delivered them delivered the numbers to us. We're collecting$700,000 a month in SPLOST. Uh in terms of the new SPLOS when it starts coming in, the SPLOS six. We had a current$21 million in the SPLOS 5 account and the T SPLOST account. We had$17 million in the T SPLOST account, and we also had a [0:34:55, 0:35:15]: A million dollars sitting in a bond that we had bonded for multi-use trails. Now, the Alleyway project, in my opinion, is a trail. You can br you're creating a access that downtown for a gathering space. That million dollar bond could be could be used for that because you're creating [0:35:15, 0:35:35]: A wide accessible trail through that area so that people can move forward with it. Now, I understand certainly there's been some disruption and certain in terms of how we proceed and how we move forward. But the Main Street board, the DDA board, and the business owners want to see action. [0:35:35, 0:35:46]: They're tired of us talking. They want to see action. And and and for the business owners, as far as the business owners concerned, a lot of us can t can uh c can hypothesize what we want. [0:35:47, 0:36:07]: But none of our money personal assets are on the table. The business owners have cash and they have skin in the game. And they're not gonna be able to wait much longer on progress to be able to happen downtown. They need you to hit the ground running on the very first day working on this project and catching us up from the [0:36:07, 0:36:27]: The last uh six or seven months where transition was being made forward. And as a seasoned city manager, that we all agree, right, that you're a seasoned city manager, that you should be able to come in and we should be able to exercise this project and get updated with uh the economic development staff and Mr. Malazzi. [0:36:27, 0:36:47]: If I may, uh council member, uh, and I agree with everything that you said. Um, and in fact, I was taken aback a little bit because I believe any project that's presented before this body, we should understand where that fund is coming from. And if that has been a practice prior to, that would not happen again. No project should be presented to the body. [0:36:47, 0:37:07]: To the governing body without us understanding clean completely where that funding is coming from. So we'll double back and we'll check and and and get a status on these projects and report back. But if we approve the project and we don't understand where the funding comes from, that's the first mistake. And that would not happen under my administration. Uh that's first and foremost. Um [0:37:07, 0:37:27]: Um we owe you answers. We understand that there are a lot of projects uh on on pause in neutral. I'm not understanding why as as well, but I'm gonna get a full readout of what's going on with that. Um as I told you before, I'm about results uh and my team would soon know that um moving forward and this will not be a issue again. So [0:37:27, 0:37:29]: So there you go. [0:37:30, 0:37:30]: Frank? [0:37:33, 0:37:53]: I wish we had discussed before it came before you would have given and given you information and give them information. So we'll get back to you and we'll work with them. If they are on the list, we'll let you know. If they are not, you'll be able to relocate. [0:37:53, 0:37:55]: Allocate the funds for them. [0:37:55, 0:37:56]: Okay. [0:37:56, 0:37:57]: Mayor. Yes, sir. [0:37:59, 0:38:19]: Motion directing the staff and the sit new city manager to look into five to identifying the funding and moving forward with the downtown alleyway project and as Ms. Gantt suggested that they would return to us with the results. Not another meeting, that they were return to us with the results. [0:38:19, 0:38:20]: In the next thirty days. [0:38:23, 0:38:23]: Um [0:38:24, 0:38:27]: That's not necessary, sir. Uh I'm giving you my word here. [0:38:27, 0:38:47]: As a professional, uh when I start on the fourth, uh we're gonna get uh we're gonna roll our sleeves up and get and get going. At the point something is already voted on and and approved, those are priority. And if those priorities shift based off the funding that we got, because right now we also gotta understand our financial situation, right? So it's a lot of moving pieces, a lot of [0:38:47, 0:39:07]: things going on. But what I will assure this body is uh at the point that we definitely have the funding, which I believe we do, um, it's no reason to hold up. Uh it's it's it's absolute no reason to hold up. So I'm telling you here on the record that that's the plan and that's the goal. So so in so in other words, you're saying we don't need a most [0:39:07, 0:39:13]: Motion, you're gonna return to us absolutely within thirty days and we're gonna have a result on the moving this project forward. Yes, sir. [0:39:14, 0:39:17]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. Um [0:39:18, 0:39:19]: Real quick. [0:39:20, 0:39:20]: Um [0:39:21, 0:39:27]: The director of Main Street, is there anything you would like to say in regards or your concerns in regards to this project? [0:39:29, 0:39:39]: I know that they that the board members um came up and I really appreciate that. But I wanted to hear from you as well. [0:39:40, 0:39:44]: If you're asking about the alleyway project in particular. [0:39:44, 0:39:48]: А вам тонка Майн стріт адвізорі борд. [0:39:48, 0:40:08]: They've been very supportive over these years. I think the project was introduced in 2019, and there have been several um stop gaps along the way. Um there was initially funding um in September of 2020 with a resolution. Um and there [0:40:08, 0:40:10]: Still has been no [0:40:10, 0:40:16]: Result, I was told by the former city manager that those funds were no longer available. [0:40:17, 0:40:37]: Um, so we continue to reintroduce the project each year during our work plan. And part of our work plan for this year was to make sure there was more momentum. We have um a new economic development director who's been um meticulously trying to work with. [0:40:37, 0:40:57]: the other directors to move it forward. My most recent understanding is that although the council has listed downtown development as number three in their list of things to do, I was not aware that we were given a funding source for the Alleyway project. So um that is [0:40:57, 0:41:00]: One thing. The other thing that um [0:41:01, 0:41:06]: uh Mister Hopkins brought forward was that because we have so much more [0:41:06, 0:41:11]: activity in the downtown than we've ever had before, which is a good problem to have. [0:41:12, 0:41:13]: There have been some challenges that [0:41:14, 0:41:34]: Have arisen out of that circumstance. Some of them are a bit worrisome. So we feel that it would be important for us to re-evaluate the codes and ordinances that exist that may be outdated based on our modern downtown and the fact that we have more businesses. [0:41:34, 0:41:49]: Is trying to come into the district. We we've worked very hard, especially once our office was moved out of City Hall and put on the ground in Main Street to make it uh a community, a neighborhood among [0:41:50, 0:41:52]: all of the business owners and um [0:41:53, 0:41:55]: Frankly, we've had some [0:41:55, 0:41:57]: concerns from some of the owners that [0:41:58, 0:42:02]: They don't feel like they're being treated fairly. They feel like there's um [0:42:02, 0:42:10]: some bullying going on when when it comes to parking. Obviously we have limited parking like every downtown. But um [0:42:10, 0:42:13]: Our our board uh no sorry, not our board. Our [0:42:14, 0:42:26]: department has tried to make attempts at putting in signage, um giving parking passes to the business owners, um, several different things, but it's going to require more. [0:42:28, 0:42:37]: I guess law on the books for the parking issue to be addressed. In addition to that, we have the Norfolk Southern extension that [0:42:38, 0:42:45]: um Mr. Sanders is working on so that we can get additional parking in the downtown. Um [0:42:46, 0:42:50]: We want to just make sure that we have the ability to. [0:42:51, 0:42:58]: Govern fairly. You have a district manager, but we need to make sure that the district manager [0:42:58, 0:43:05]: Is treating everyone with respect and being treated with respect based on what the city's standards and protocols are. [0:43:06, 0:43:26]: Thank you. Um, in regards to the parking, uh the the RSVP study, interesting enough, thought that there was plenty of parking in downtown. It th it actually states it and it gets creative on ways that there are ways to make that a creative s creative spaces, so to speak. [0:43:26, 0:43:46]: But they mentioned the typical downtown, like any other downtown, whether you're in Atlanta or anywhere else, you're gonna have those challenges. Um, I was in downtown Spaudon County today for court this morning and I drove around for fifteen minutes looking for a park. It is not abnormal. It's a problem that you're gonna have in every municipality. So [0:43:46, 0:44:00]: So it's something that, you know, we hear, we hear you loud and clear. But I want Miss Free, thank you so much for your diligence on that. Um w let's just we'll come together and work together to find a resolution. [0:44:01, 0:44:07]: I want to go to my right side. You all have anything comments down at all? Go write it, please. [0:44:10, 0:44:30]: Uh thank you, Mr. Hopkins, um, for bringing this forward. I do support the Aloe project. I am the district representative of our downtown area. So when there are concerns, I like to be made aware of them, if you would please. Um have those business owners to reach out to me. I have spoken with. [0:44:30, 0:44:30]: Yeah. [0:44:31, 0:44:38]: Um at least two of them who've expressed concerns regarding parking and other issues, but I like to hear from all of them. [0:44:39, 0:44:46]: If there are any businesses or any residents who have concerns that live in the downtown area [0:44:47, 0:44:49]: I am your representative. [0:44:49, 0:44:52]: please reach out to me directly. [0:44:52, 0:44:53]: I like to hear about them. [0:44:54, 0:44:59]: So that I can work with staff and the city manager to resolve those issues. Um [0:44:59, 0:45:12]: One other thing that I did request though, and this is for Mr. Edmondson, um, the Main Street Board brought a idea of a project to the council, I believe back in 2021. [0:45:13, 0:45:33]: Um it was the shipping container district, where temporary shipping containers could be used in the downtown area. I like for them to bring that project back to the council for us to reconsider it. I believe that will increase more foot traffic. That's what we want to see, especially during the concert season. [0:45:33, 0:45:38]: Reasons. Um I do want to just make a request. [0:45:40, 0:45:46]: During our council retreats is the opportunity for all boards. [0:45:46, 0:45:54]: All boards should be included and involved in our council retreats. [0:45:54, 0:45:57]: These are the discussions that should be had. [0:45:57, 0:45:58]: During our retreats. [0:45:59, 0:46:01]: I asked that earlier this year. [0:46:02, 0:46:03]: I asked it. [0:46:03, 0:46:04]: Last year. [0:46:04, 0:46:08]: So that boards are not working as silos. [0:46:08, 0:46:11]: and trying to resolve issues that go nowhere. [0:46:12, 0:46:16]: Um I also want to ask, and just this is just from Mr. Edmondson. [0:46:17, 0:46:19]: He hasn't even started his first day yet. [0:46:20, 0:46:40]: There are a lot of priorities of our city that's gonna that's gonna require your focus. I ask that you please, sir, take the time to review all of the priorities, not just this one. Right. All priorities of our city. I trust your judgment, I trust your leadership. Um [0:46:40, 0:47:00]: So and if I may, um one thing I'm realizing very early on as well as I go through here for the past couple of weeks, uh just having conversations with staff, so on so forth, my concern early on, I'm just gonna come on out, uh, is I just want to make sure that we are not picking up projects and throwing stuff against the wall. [0:47:00, 0:47:02]: [2822.9, 2833.9]: I I need to see the comprehensive plan. I need to see the master plan because if we're not going by that, then I think we are making a huge mistake. The problem with growing and smart growth is that you have to have a plan. [0:47:14, 0:47:34]: Right. And just because you want to build something here or put something over here doesn't mean it makes sense in the long term. So I want to make sure that we are strategizing and that we are going by a master plan or comprehensive plan. And if we're not, then what are we doing? Are we going to modify that? Is it time to renew? Which I think is about that time again. So some of these conversations need to be had. [0:47:34, 0:47:43]: What I don't want staff to do is be presenting items or ideas based off everybody have an idea. The faster way to not get nothing done is try to do everything. [0:47:43, 0:48:03]: And we don't have a plan and we don't have a strategy how to get there, then I think we are planning to fail. And that's not I'm gonna be on my watch. So what I'd like to do is actually look at the comprehensive plan in each department based on what project list that we got, because we have a master project list as well as uh for the city that includes the downtown and the [0:48:03, 0:48:18]: other par projects that we have and they need to show me in the comprehensive plan where that relates at. If they can't show me then then guess what? Then we need to talk about where that priority goes. Because as far as I'm concerned, either we going by the comprehensive plan or we need a new a new directive to go in a different direction. [0:48:19, 0:48:39]: Okay, good. Stand by for a second, please. Hold your thought. Sir, did you have anything that you need to add? I don't want to add anything, just again, you guys know that I have your yeah, I support you guys in every uh endeavor in this project and I'm really waiting to see once you get in and get your hands dirty, Ms. Emerson, and see what you can unearth and bring everything to to the you know to the forefront. [0:48:39, 0:48:41]: Right. Right. Absolutely. [0:48:42, 0:49:02]: I bet it. Yes, sir. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Let me tell you this. We do have a plan. Good. We the council voted on the projects. There was not, we ranked them in the priority that we want them based off the plan that was put together. We need you and the staff to execute the project. [0:49:01, 0:49:21]: plan. That's what we need. We need action, not any more talk. We need action. We need somebody to come in and say, let me take the bull by the horns and let me move forward with these particular projects. The alleyway project was ranked three, right? There was a couple before that. But those are the ones that the council [0:49:21, 0:49:38]: prioritize based off retreats that we already had, that we mashed up, spent all day talking about it, and finally came to consensus on all of on the issues with ranked how we wanted them ranked. And then with the funds that are particularly [0:49:38, 0:49:45]: Coming in. I appreciate you coming in before your time. But let me say this, okay? There's seven hundred parking spaces right there. [0:49:45, 0:49:46]: Okay. [0:49:47, 0:50:07]: Uh see, I don't get caught up into I can't walk a half a block across the street, across the railroad tracks. If you go to any downtown, I go to Atlanta, I go to Augusta, I go to Marietta, I go to Smyrna, I gotta walk a little bit. Should we have a parking deck down here? Yes. But there's n this shortage of parking when you got two businesses that are open. [0:50:07, 0:50:10]: and downtown blows my mind. Two. [0:50:10, 0:50:30]: Right? No so it's not like there's a lot of activity down there, except that when there's a there's concerts going on, it's a smoke screen for the other issues that are going on between the business owners and personalities and stuff like that. I I it's a smoke screen. It really is. There's not a dearth of parking. [0:50:30, 0:50:38]: The issue is that the only improvement that I'd like to see move forward is we worked out an agreement with Norfolk Southern. [0:50:38, 0:50:58]: As a trade-off, they gave us fifty thousand dollars to close the Nolan Street exit. And that part of that agreement included closing this downtown station and transition. That should have happened. That's I don't care if we gotta call them every single day. Somebody needs to be on that. That needs to happen. [0:50:58, 0:51:18]: I know the railroad is very hard to deal with, but the transaction was written down how it was supposed to be executed, and the city has received the$50,000 for closing that exit. That part one has taken place, part two has not taken place, and that's because we gotta have somebody that's determined not to hear the word use. [0:51:18, 0:51:38]: Yeah, no, we're not accepting no that we the railroad is hard to deal with, this, that, is that keep making that phone call if you gotta make it every day in order to make things happen. And and let me say this, the two businesses, the new businesses that are down uh in downtown, obviously they're very frustrated with what's going with what has taken place. [0:51:38, 0:51:58]: But they have money at stake. They have skin in the game into what they're doing. So their opinion is always going to matter and where we and where we need to go in all of that. Obviously, there's not going to be 100% agreement on what the process is to move forward, but certainly we're seeing activity in downtown. [0:51:58, 0:52:11]: like we've never seen before. The the new restaurant now is jam packed almost every single day. That's something that we could have only dreamed of m maybe just a year and a half or eighteen months ago. [0:52:12, 0:52:21]: 114, Martin Luther King, Senior Heritage Trail, the roof was literally falling in, right? The loot the roof was literally caving in. [0:52:22, 0:52:33]: It was put on the market, it was rehabbed, it's now a prized possession. Anybody in this entire area would love to uh uh to uh support it and to be at it. [0:52:34, 0:52:38]: What we're doing in downtown actually attracted them. [0:52:39, 0:52:59]: But they're frustrated because they've seen the plan. It's called the RSVP plan. It's a broad concept that was put together, and then the council did rank choice on what we needed to do, prioritizing what downtown needs to be. I don't expect all the answers today, but I'll expect that the paperwork and all the meetings have been had. [0:52:59, 0:53:04]: At execution time at the highest level is what the priority is in my opinion. [0:53:05, 0:53:15]: All right. We have plenty of conversation. Thank you. And and uh Mr Edmundson, welcome to Stockbridge where community connects, sir. Yes, sir. Okay. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [0:53:17, 0:53:37]: Comment from the chair. Sure. Go ahead, please. Since I've been uh active member of this board over five and a half years, this boy has always had a liaison. Unfortunately that uh Councilman Thomas has been out. Uh none that he can do. But I think it's very important. It's imperative to [0:53:37, 0:53:57]: That our board, the Main Street Bible, have a liaison to this honorable board here. And it's just things that I deal with, I have to do things that make sense. And downtown is district two, is is is uh Councilman Barber's district. I I have I it my recommendation. [0:53:57, 0:53:58]: Recommendations don't mean anything. I understand that. [0:54:00, 0:54:07]: I understand that, but I would love to have Councilman Barber on uh Aliza in her district so that we can get things done. Thank you. [0:54:07, 0:54:15]: All right. All right. Appreciate that. Thank you. No problem. Thank you. I accept your recommendation, sir. And thank you. Thank you all. [0:54:17, 0:54:18]: All right. Um [0:54:20, 0:54:30]: Excuse me? Okay. So what we have next or are presentations and actually the presentations deal with the city managers, yeah presentation along with our other [0:54:30, 0:54:33]: directors. Council, you have the presentations in your book now. [0:54:34, 0:54:53]: I mean there's several ways we can do this. I mean I can highlight mine, I c the city manager's piece there. I highlight the rest of the rest of those presentations for each one of the department heads. Uh we can go through that. It'll take some time to highlight all those, uh, but they're all in front of you, all the things that happened uh highlighted for the last quarter uh in that aspect as well. [0:54:54, 0:55:14]: And one of the highlights in reference to the city manager's uh position here is conducting me uh meet uh weekly uh staff meetings, which is uh occurred on Tuesday as nine o'clock typically. And uh the retreat, we had a staff budget retreat on 22 uh 23 May. Um and then of course uh been participating with the other uh city management. [0:55:14, 0:55:34]: managers and county managers for a uh joint meeting on a regular basis. And uh of course uh attending with the the uh the edge the actual economic director on the civic sign is uh meeting and of course council meetings as well and ribbon cuttings and ceremonies for new businesses and uh the financial manager Mr. Lazi and I have had quite a bit of conversation [0:55:34, 0:55:36]: [3337.0, 3342.0]: So that's just some of the highlights in that aspect. But that's where city manager directed. But what we have next would be [0:55:42, 0:55:44]: What we have next could be be [0:55:44, 0:55:52]: easily a whole bunch of other things for each one of the departments. And um I can easily go through those or have the I'm sorry, uh you're Demetrius, you were doing something? [0:55:53, 0:56:13]: Okay, go ahead. All right. So say for instance if uh Ms. Malazi is here, but uh if you look in your your presentation, he talks about the twenty twenty-five Homestate exemption closed on April first, twenty twenty-five. The twenty twenty-four fiscal audit is just about complete, successfully implemented the federal finance reporting and projects. [0:56:13, 0:56:15]: Procedures per grants requirements that we need. [0:56:16, 0:56:26]: received the first SPLOS six in June, SOS six funding in June. And of course will carry out for our various projects that we just talked about, citywide projects for the next six years. [0:56:26, 0:56:33]: And uh met with all the federal grants and requirements, uh no longer hold up for drawdowns or encourage particular expenses and reimbursements there. [0:56:34, 0:56:45]: And of course we'll uh we'll get to the point for the FY twenty twenty six uh budget process it'll be uh something we'll get to here shortly as well as as uh time goes on. [0:56:46, 0:57:06]: The city clerk's report that you have there was Miss Vanessa Holliday. Of course, they prepare uh 35 meeting agendas, attended 16 uh council committee and board meetings, 21 operational staffs and agenda review meetings, 10 training sessions they've had, 1,900 meeting and minutes uh prescribed on [0:57:06, 0:57:15]: all that thirty one proclamations and letters and eighth oath of offices and a hundred and fifty three open records requests is and I don't know if that sets a record or not, but it's a whole lot. [0:57:17, 0:57:37]: Our admin uh council, our admin support staff deals with Miss Rawls and Miss Eatman, and of course they as you well know Council, they support all our initiatives, which is a m a number of m things in the Bingo, Bash, State of the City Address, Mother's Day Tea, National Day of Prayer, you know, meet the mayor, the country. [0:57:37, 0:57:43]: community cleanup, um the classic uh Father Day s uh celebration, town halls. [0:57:44, 0:58:04]: And that uh we are yeah, so they're quite busy with uh initiatives that we have. The IT department um has several different things that occurred in the last several months. Setting up uh you know new accounts and and decommissioning of old ones, review and manage user permissions, access controls, run and verify regular backups. [0:58:04, 0:58:20]: Evaluate upcoming tech needs and upgrade uh our IT documentation and knowledge base and track SLAs and resolution times. Just highlighting a few here,'cause I I can be here all night reading all these things, right? Evaluate cybersecurity, posture and tools, which is extremely important these days as well. [0:58:21, 0:58:41]: Human Resources with uh Miss Renee Wheelers director, as a director there. Um we have ten open positions last quarter, eight new hires, five summer interns. We honored those interns just last week with a luncheon and thanked them for their service uh for us over the last several months. Um gave several different stroke and awareness, bone health. [0:58:41, 0:59:01]: type of health and wellness programming, monthly coaching and meeting with the employees, and uh presentation what how to be a good human challenge in a sense is aspect as we've done. Safety and risk management, working works workers compet uh compensation claims uh four of those have been open, incurred uh roughly fifty nine thousand five hundred dollars [0:59:01, 0:59:21]: on that. And uh we've had some actually um navigating mental health and work in workplace anti-harassment and workplace bullying training, just on training to protect our workforce and this aspect, improving local government team decision making process. Public works department. We've actually added [0:59:21, 0:59:41]: two city sweeper trucks. Um let's see here. Um so of course the city is divided in uh into five um with five street sweeping uh zones and each zone is swept on an average of uh three times per year and uh let's see here and of course the sweepers de uh des designated to and be routed to [0:59:41, 0:59:45]: And let's see. [0:59:47, 1:00:07]: Overhead signage replacement project when reference assigns identify what streets that you're on. Mr. Anderson who deals with his quarter report deals with community director, director. Occupational taxes, roughly for the last quarter, if I understand this right, 72,136. Financial institutions 12573, alcohol licenses. [1:00:07, 1:00:27]: Is$12,500. Any type of late fees that we have curred that we have obtained for$17,864. Regulatory fees,$5,100. The total of that particular occupational tax nap, uh, um, all those particular subsets is$246,061. Hotel motel tax. [1:00:27, 1:00:47]: 314, excuse me, 312 and uh$312,091. Consumption from um uh there are particular spirits there in the in the strawberry area, forty two forty-two thousand six hundred and sixty-eight. And consumption that is beer is eighty six, eighty eight thousand. [1:00:47, 1:01:05]: Wine 31,251. The steel spirits of 59,194. Business services five hundred and fifteen thousand two hundred thirty uh two hundred and thirty. Permitting fees for the last quarter, seven hundred and ninety-seven thousand eight hundred eighty-five. [1:01:05, 1:01:07]: Playing is only seven thousand seven hundred. [1:01:07, 1:01:11]: Fire marshal himself with uh for last quarter twenty one thousand five seventy five. [1:01:12, 1:01:17]: And total revenue in that particular particular department is one million three hundred forty two thousand three hundred ninety one. [1:01:19, 1:01:39]: Yeah, Economic Development Department. Uh we briefed with uh Mr. Sanders just talking to us earlier and we'd have it on here deals with North Force Southern Rail parking lot the lease agreement, which we're still working on. We're gonna have a briefing here shortly about the special service district. Um and of course there's some uh concerns in reference to uh how we go forward with the Georgia Power utility relocation. [1:01:39, 1:01:42]: in our downtown area to look at putting those utilities underground. [1:01:43, 1:01:47]: And the alleyway project also, as we just discussed, is on this particular report as well. [1:01:47, 1:02:07]: Economic Development Target Quarterly Report continues uh Main Street program recertification and uh and it's uh deals with um the three representatives uh from the state of uh State Department Community Affairs in Noonan, Georgia, and a meeting they had in March this last quarter. Uh let's see here. [1:02:07, 1:02:12]: [3735.0, 3755.0]: Events Department manages the Merrill Manors Conference Center and of course the total revenue for the past quarter is sixty thousand dollars in reference to that. Preparation for of course for the uh 2025 events uh deals with artist booking for free concerts, vendor coordination, marketing, promotion, sponsorship, outreach, and logistics planning. [1:02:35, 1:02:55]: And uh we just uh we actually had to cancel our our vi final um tasty Tuesday, food truck tasty Tuesday this evening due to to the hate uh to the heat and the safety conditions in reference to how hot it would get in the area. And uh so that's kicked back up uh next uh next year, the second quarter next year. Back to school giveaway was quite a success. Uh [1:02:54, 1:03:14]: A little over a week ago. And then we also had a very successful Juneteenth and Fourth of July celebration. And Bridge Fest is coming here in the fall. Let's see Municipal Court. New citation forwarded to the court, 1,317 citation scheduled for the [1:03:14, 1:03:34]: The court 1698. Cases scheduled for the court 1,344. And those are broken down by individuals and businesses. Red Street was red speed citation scheduled for a virtual court 116. Now this with folks obviously speeding through the school zones, and now schools start starting to work. [1:03:34, 1:03:44]: starts on actually the thirty first, so obviously those recipe cameras will be back on. Uh so you gotta slow down when you're in those uh particular uh areas uh where the school with kids are going to school. [1:03:45, 1:04:05]: Okay, so we got bench trial. We got several things here. Total payments collected though$281,196. Stockbridge finance, our police department. Um highlights uh from the last quarter here says here total arrests 193, felony arrests 40, misdemeanor arrests 153, stolen vehicle. [1:04:05, 1:04:25]: Vehicles that were covered was 19, firearms E's were 26. And we focus, of course, the focus on proactive patrols, high crime areas, saturation, and targeted enforcement efforts. And quite a bit, our code enforcement is doing quite a bit as well. Total cases opened last quarter, 320. [1:04:25, 1:04:45]: 23 cases resolved, 221 of those of those. And some of our top violations, unfortunately, is over overgrown grass grass, street parking, junk motor vehicles, property maintenance, uh, banner displaced um property, let's see, targets uh target neighborhoods with blight health and safety. [1:04:45, 1:04:45]: Safety. [1:04:46, 1:04:48]: Mm, that's just someone highly here. [1:04:50, 1:05:10]: Detective division crime scene. Just total case is 442. Cases cleared 1977 by arrest. Exceptional 12 founded uh says nine here. Um property evidence and items released disposed of is twenty-three. Our police department is very active in and keeping us protected and [1:05:10, 1:05:11]: Safe here, ladies and gentlemen. [1:05:12, 1:05:23]: I mean I'm just uh I can go on and on and on, but I don't want to bore you with all these details, but we're doing very successful things here. Let's see here. Um City Wide Development Authority has a report in here as well. [1:05:25, 1:05:35]: And um let's see here. Doing doing things to for marketing pri and p and public engagement sub subcommittee. And um [1:05:35, 1:05:45]: working on marketing agency through the ED development uh department for billboard ad development on 175 and uh looking through those edits and get those taken care of. [1:05:51, 1:05:53]: Stockbridge Youth Council, our young folks. [1:05:54, 1:06:14]: With the adult leadership. Youth Council has 15 members, eight active members, seven interviewing. Matter of fact, during the interview process for the next uh 2020 25, 26 season. Um I look forward to swearing those young folks in here shortly. And the past activities they've had, uh there's an air area beautification. They've [1:06:14, 1:06:34]: had a Starbert Youth Council uh dinner and discussion and uh and actually in a sense uh wishing those seniors well as they go on to college and other and their next activities in life. And supported, I guess, a Mother's Tea Day, a T T uh Mother's Day tea, excuse me, senior banquet, and they supported the um Father's Day luncheon. [1:06:36, 1:06:46]: Okay. And the distributors just the passing out of the of all the book the book bags and and supplies, distribution, excuse me. [1:06:47, 1:06:47]: All right. [1:06:49, 1:06:50]: Okay. [1:06:50, 1:07:10]: I'll tell you what, I will end that there. Council, you have those uh to look at it. I don't know if there's necessary to have any other staff members come forward, but uh just to give you the highlights, some highlights and reference for the the cumulus here or cumulus listening online. I mean it can get very long-winded, then we go minute line by line. So I'll stop at that point. Um what we have [1:07:10, 1:07:18]: Have next would be the Economic Development Presentation Special Service District presented by um Gerald Sanders and Mr. John Ernst, please. [1:07:27, 1:07:47]: Good evening, Mayor. Council. Good evening. I'm John. I'm joined by John Ernst this evening, who is our consultant and attorney with the special service district. He's no stranger to the city or to the council. The special service district boundary was originally approved by council in October of 2024. So we [1:07:47, 1:07:54]: We have a boundary in place. There is a resolution that was prepared at that time that signifies that. [1:07:55, 1:08:15]: What we're going to do this evening, and Mr. Ernst is actually going to do the presentation. We have a PowerPoint presentation for you. He's going to talk about some of the practical uses of special service district as it can potentially and how it can potentially help the city with some of its funding needs for a number of projects that we have. So without further ado, I'm [1:08:15, 1:08:35]: I'm gonna uh ask him to come to the mic and start his presentation, if you would please. Well, thank you, Gerald. Thank you, uh Mayor and Council for having me here today. Um, you know, oh I got a little thing. Let's see if it works. There you go, it does. Excellent. Um, I was asked to come here, uh as you guys remember. [1:08:34, 1:08:54]: Remember, I was here back in October when we uh when I presented the special service district. You guys uh passed it. Um I have subsequently since working on on uh establishing the district, working with your s former city manager with uh with the the maps, uh getting the maps to the uh tax commissioner. [1:08:54, 1:09:14]: And tax assessors to create the digest for you guys to then decide what you would like to do and what projects you would like to be able to use. Special Service District really is just a tool, a funding tool that cities around the state are just starting to use. [1:09:14, 1:09:34]: Brookhaven City Hall. Um it took from uh basically three years and one month from the time I uh was chicken scratching with the architect to when we actually grant uh opened it, the document uh opened the building. The opening happened on on this Friday. So um you can see other areas. [1:09:34, 1:09:35]: going for the right. [1:09:36, 1:09:56]: Um cities have these are the ones here are the historical funding strategies for cities. It's general fund, general obligation bonds, T SPLOS, TADS, grants. You guys all know this. You've heard about this multiple times. As we all know, grants, especially federal, under this administration. [1:09:56, 1:10:16]: are probably gonna be a little bit further and farther between. Likelihood of getting grants are gonna become smaller, not just for you or city, but for all cities across the country. Um and a special service district can be a way to to help uh to help implement uh the the plans that you guys have. Um like your current city [1:10:16, 1:10:36]: uh about to be current city manager uh space uh stated is you know you have your plans, you align your plans with your financing, um, and then and that's the way you can get projects done and and and and rock it forward. I was brought here s tal a little bit to talk about the um aspects [1:10:35, 1:10:55]: Of you know, of uh you guys had got a presentation about a uh a CID, a community investment uh div uh uh district. And CIDs are great tools that other cities have allotted. Now, the the issues with CIDs is CIDs are made up of the the business owners of that. [1:10:55, 1:11:15]: that area. It is not controlled by the city. They have they may have different priorities than the city can have. You can have both a CID and an SSD on the same pieces of property. There's nothing that stops that. But you know if you want to go down the CID path, that is, you know, this is something you can do. But [1:11:15, 1:11:35]: But all the things that CID can do, an SSD can do. If you want beautification, you can do that. You want a little uh increase in the police presence in that district, you can do that. Um, you want to um build uh pathways or alleyways, uh you can do that um with it. Anything the CID can do. [1:11:35, 1:11:42]: do an SSD can do. And it's and it's just the council itself making the decision on what those priorities are. [1:11:44, 1:11:50]: Again, SSDs are allows elect officials to provide or enhance services in a specific area. [1:11:51, 1:12:03]: Uh I have this little sheet here. Again, it talks about lots of different items of an SSD. Uh the equity. Uh the the community that benefits directly from the new service is the one that's paying for it. [1:12:03, 1:12:23]: Um, you know, but it can benefit uh disadvantaged communities around because um these uh uh this this the funding for this these projects come off of the maybe the general fund and can be uh moved to disadvantaged communities. There's uh no legal limit on SSD rate. Um a bond is just [1:12:23, 1:12:43]: whatever you want with the SSD digest. So you can dream, you know, you uh the only limit is what you guys decide. Um you obviously it's extremely flexible. Um you can do projects, you can do services, you can do multiple different things. You have a a [1:12:43, 1:13:03]: uh steady stream of of revenue that you can budget off of or you can bond off of to get those projects done. And you know, you can team up with other jurisdictions or agencies um uh to to provide those different services like um and so you can team up with counties [1:13:03, 1:13:23]: uh or like i said agencies whether it be i mean um uh your your develop downtown development authority you can uh team up with in even marta or something like that if you wanted to do something transit related so it is uh greatly you know greatly flexible this is the district you guys saw this [1:13:23, 1:13:43]: this district um during this the retreat. This is the exact same thing. Nothing changed in that. Here. And you're also, I believe, right after this, going to be voting just to kind of reiterate the district in this map that you guys [1:13:43, 1:13:49]: passed in October uh in today and I hope you guys uh do pass it. Um [1:13:49, 1:14:09]: This also leads to other different um uh creative financing. You can you use an SSD as a value capture thing. So you can you don't have to you have one s SSD. You can create other SSDs in the layer on top. And one of the great things out there you could do uh value capture is basically say, hey, we put [1:14:09, 1:14:25]: this SSD on, we're doing a project, all that value of the properties, we're not going to tax that that is currently there. But if there's an increase in value, you can put a uh you know a fee on that uh and help recapture some of that value. [1:14:26, 1:14:46]: Again, the belt line is being built. The land belt line everyone talks about is being built by the land of uh by the an SSD. They did a tad initially. It wasn't enough money, so they had to do an SSD. The uh Stitch project that's going out there, uh they're creating SSD for the local match if they get it. Again, Brookhaven City Center, uh [1:14:46, 1:15:06]: I mentioned Avondale uh States has has an SSD and now you guys do too. So at you know at this point it comes into the uh you know factor of um of what do you want to get done um and and plan and and finance and and make those decisions uh when uh the diet [1:15:05, 1:15:12]: I just comes in and um when uh when you get into to m setting rates. So um [1:15:13, 1:15:23]: You know, that's kinda a quick reiteration of what I've spoken for about before. Uh so if I haven't you have you guys any questions, I'm here to answer'em now. [1:15:23, 1:15:43]: I tell you what um you mentioned and I believe uh what I understood you said that SSD and long a CID can be on top of each other in a sense. But I imagine that if we wanted it well, I know with some talk about having a CID, which we I say we'd like to do as well, but I would think that this census d deals with CID and SSD deal with taxing of commercial businesses. [1:15:43, 1:16:03]: You probably wouldn't want to overtax those those closer businesses. Probably wouldn't be a smart thing to do. So we're not going to be able to do that. [1:16:03, 1:16:20]: classifications or even which properties are in the SSD. A CID cannot um be uh you know, cannot uh tax any residential property, cannot um or uh assess any uh residential property whatsoever, including apartments as we discussed in October. So [1:16:20, 1:16:40]: But yes, I would agree with you. The likelihood of layering an SSD and a CID uh all at one time is probably not the smartest political um or financial uh uh best practices. I it's part of Brookhaven CID, duh SSD is on a CID. Um and uh [1:16:40, 1:16:47]: Uh, but they do do completely different services. So they those business owners accepted it. It wasn't the whole whole district. [1:16:48, 1:16:51]: Okay, thank you. Council, any questions? Yeah, go ahead, please. [1:16:52, 1:17:12]: So this the map well thank you sir for your presentation. No problem. The map is illegible. I can't really see it. Um so I need to know specifically the areas. Uh uh the the map is Ben should be presented on your uh resolution uh pro [1:17:12, 1:17:23]: following next that would be for a clearer resolution. I just printed off, you know, I just copied the the the map that I was provided by the city um or put it on there. [1:17:23, 1:17:29]: Are you saying you you desire to have a bigger one? I can't read this. Okay. We'll we'll see if we can get a bigger one. Yeah. [1:17:31, 1:17:43]: Um the next question is for Mr. Edmondson. I want to know has he had the opportunity to review this and what is his suggestion or recommendation for this? [1:17:45, 1:18:05]: Uh yes, ma'am, I did have the opportunity to uh look at the map. In fact, we thought uh along with the clerk, um this been approved a while ago. However, the map was not attached to the resolution, but we thought for transparency and clarity that they need to repres uh repr present this and include the map so that we could go ahead and move forward with it. But I have looked at it. [1:18:05, 1:18:11]: Um, I just want to make sure it was clean and everybody crystal clear on what that map looks like to attach to that resolution. So [1:18:14, 1:18:14]: Okay. [1:18:17, 1:18:22]: I can I can have the uh a larger copy printed out to eleven by seventeen. [1:18:22, 1:18:24]: That'd be better for you, ma'am? Okay, we can do that. [1:18:25, 1:18:25]: Yeah. [1:18:26, 1:18:43]: Or yeah, if it's not on your computer or or anything like that, you could blow it up individually. It has not changed from the one that was presented to the council at the retreat. It is the same map. It it is the exact same map. Yeah, it just wasn't approved and we want to make sure [1:18:43, 1:19:01]: that for the record it was a formally approved to be a part of the resolution. But it was already passed, but I didn't want y you know, it to come back up and somebody said, well, we didn't even vote on this map. So uh it was advised to put it back on this agenda to make sure that it got voted on the right way. [1:19:01, 1:19:02]: Yes, ma'am. [1:19:04, 1:19:05]: Any other questions, Councilman? [1:19:06, 1:19:06]: Okay. [1:19:08, 1:19:28]: Thank you very much. Presentation is fantastic, Mr. Ernst. Thank you, sir. Thank you guys. Look forward to working with you guys more in the future with this. Absolutely. Thank you. Actually, what what is next now is economic development presentation, special service district, and um okay, I'm sorry, the SSD map itself, the district that we just talked about. Right. So in a reference to a [1:19:28, 1:19:48]: Uh a motion to accept that and and to add it to that resolution to clean up everything. So that is correct. And mayor, I would just like to mention that you all did approve a resolution back in 2024 uh out of an abundance of caution and consulting with the city attorney and as mr as the new city manager mentioned, we're giving you we're asking you to approve an updated resolution. [1:19:48, 1:20:08]: That's in your package along with the map. Uh my understanding was is that previously when the resolution was approved, the map was missing. And so what we want to do this evening is get you to approve an updated resolution along with the same map that you've uh that was that that encompasses the district. So that's the clarification. [1:20:08, 1:20:09]: All right. [1:20:34, 1:20:36]: Okay, zero. [1:20:36, 1:20:38]: Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. [1:20:43, 1:20:46]: So is there a motion to accept this now that you can see it and view it? [1:20:50, 1:20:51]: Motion to approve. [1:20:51, 1:20:52]: Sir a second. [1:20:53, 1:20:56]: I second. Ms. Cannon Fair please indicate. [1:20:58, 1:21:03]: Okay, you now have a decision. Thank you very much. Thank you, Daryl. Ms. Ernst, appreciate it. [1:21:06, 1:21:19]: What's next? New business council consideration to fill vacancies to appoint a member of the Main Street Advisory Board to fill the remainder of the term. And it says Megan here. Okay. [1:21:20, 1:21:36]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. There is a vacancy on the Main Street Advisory Board. Um and we are asking that you guys consider filling that vacancy. Um there has been one vacancy and one application. [1:21:36, 1:21:40]: for you to consider. Um that application is from Mr. Jalen Holman. [1:21:42, 1:21:51]: Um the background check has returned as clean and the Main Street Advisory Board recommends approval and the economic development uh committee re also recommends approval. [1:21:52, 1:21:53]: Mayor. Yes, sir. [1:21:54, 1:22:14]: I would like to recommend Jalen Holman for this job. Jalen is a landscape architect. Young man grew up right across the street from his parents, raised him along with my son in my in my neighborhood, and they are the salt of the earth of the community. And Jalen is a wonderful young man that went off to the University of Georgia. [1:22:14, 1:22:21]: Georgia and he works uh as a landscape architect and he'd be a great addition to this board. So move. [1:22:21, 1:22:23]: Okay. Is there a second? [1:22:25, 1:22:26]: For Mr. Alexander two. [1:22:29, 1:22:30]: Mm. [1:22:30, 1:22:32]: Mr. Bairsecond, I'll fairly please indicate. [1:22:34, 1:22:38]: Okay, it's an unanimous decision. Thank you very much. And welcome to uh Mr. Holman. [1:22:39, 1:22:39]: Okay. [1:22:41, 1:22:44]: Text amendment, case T X two zero [1:22:44, 1:23:04]: Two five-01 citywide first reading. Council consideration of the Text Amendment to amend Title Twelve Unified Development Code, Section 2.5.3 E and Section 2.5.3 F to the City Stockbridge Code of Ordinances relating to a downtown village DT overlay district so as to add certain uses uh [1:23:04, 1:23:24]: to the list of special uses requiring a special use permit, and to remove certain uses from the list of prohibited uses to allow them to now be permitted uses, provided that certain requirements are met to provide for severity, seribility of excuse me, to repeal conflicting ordinances. [1:23:24, 1:23:44]: To provide an effective date and other purposes. Mr. Anderson, please. Good evening. Um, this is um the latest step. If I could. All right. So this downtown overlay, what brought it forward? You brought it forward or it was a brought it forward. [1:23:44, 1:23:55]: Bringing it forward, but it's also needed to facilitate the development of the three acres across from City Hall. Okay. Across from Eastern Land. So this was generated by community development? Yes. Okay, thank you. [1:23:55, 1:24:00]: But um this is just a presentation of the night. Um we'll bring it back for the public hearing uh on August eleventh. [1:24:01, 1:24:02]: Okay. [1:24:02, 1:24:22]: So I'll I'll be I'll go through this real fast. You know in um planning and zoning, um a zoning ordinance is considered a living document. So from time to time you would need to amend it to improve the document. Uh our zoning ordinance is currently um three years old. It was approved in uh March of 2022. Uh that was right before I got here in nursing. [1:24:22, 1:24:42]: Some things that are included in that zoning ordinance that r really aren't applicable to the city of Stockbridge. Uh the current zoning ordinance were was written in uh with a for an established, more like an established city instead of a a growing city like the city of Stockbridge. So there are some things in there that really need to be changed and [1:24:42, 1:24:47]: And modernize and um to make more applicable to the city of Stockbridge. [1:24:48, 1:24:53]: So uh this is about our fifth text amendment since I've been here. So um [1:24:55, 1:24:56]: Um [1:24:57, 1:25:00]: This is for the downtown village overlay. Uh [1:25:01, 1:25:09]: I can't, I'm stuck. Okay. So here's a a current map of the uh downtown village overlay district. It's shown in um [1:25:10, 1:25:12]: And allalic and in the lavender is the PMU. [1:25:13, 1:25:21]: Also, uh about six months ago we did amend um the PMU to make certain um uses there were uh [1:25:21, 1:25:31]: permitted to make those uses um uh available by special use permit and uh to give council more discretion in um the the development that goes on into in t in the city. [1:25:33, 1:25:36]: These are the rules and regulations of the um [1:25:37, 1:25:41]: in uh of the downtown overlay village. I'm not gonna read all this for the sake of time. [1:25:43, 1:26:03]: The purpose of the downtown village overlay district is to recognize and affirm the function of the existing traditional downtown as the central focus of commercial, artesian, and civic activities within the community, to allow the existing downtown to flourish, intensify, and expand wherever it may be appropriate in a manner that is consistent with its traditional. [1:26:03, 1:26:20]: character to provide a local retail service, artesian, and civic community for the community. And currently those three goals and purposes of of the downtown Overlay District conflicts with the text that was written for the downtown Overlay District. So we're trying to improve upon that. [1:26:22, 1:26:29]: The current regulations for the downtown uh village overlay district is governed by section two point five three of the s unified development code. [1:26:32, 1:26:46]: Permitted uses, all permitted uses as provided within the downtown district are applic are permitted in the DT overlay district. Residential units which are located on upper floors above and or to the rear of commercial or office uses. [1:26:47, 1:27:07]: Special uses in the DT Overlay District. Um, special uses, all special uses as provided in the downtown district. The downtown district is the zoning district, and uh the the DTV overlay district sits on top of that. Uh bed and breakfast establishment, multifamily residential buildings, passenger depot. [1:27:07, 1:27:12]: pose and transit shelters, single family residences, uh, [1:27:13, 1:27:20]: Temporary uses in the DT overlay uh district. You have carnival fairs and other similar activities of a temporary nature. [1:27:20, 1:27:40]: Food, trucks, and similar temporary vendors, outdoor recreational and/or educational opportunities and sidewalk sales. Prohibited uses, current prohibitive uses in the DTV, adult entertainment establishment, boarding and rooming homes, catering establishment, child and adult daycare centers, consignment and thrift stores. [1:27:40, 1:27:46]: Family daycare homes, payday loans, title loans, money cash exchanges. [1:27:47, 1:28:01]: Places of worship, public and private schools and related facilities, restaurants with drive-through facilities and/or windows, tobacco and vape shops, tattoos and piercing, and extended stay hotels. The proposed changes by the planning and zoning staff. [1:28:03, 1:28:23]: To amend Title 12 of the UDC Section 2.53E and Section 2.53F for the downtown village overlay district to accomplish accomplish the following. One, add certain uses to the list of special uses requiring a special permit. Number two, remove certain uses from the list of prohibited uses. [1:28:23, 1:28:43]: And allow them to now be permitted uses, provided that certain requirements are met. Reasoning behind staff proposing these changes are businesses are interested in locating certain uses in the DT overlay district, but they are currently not allowed. For instance, you couldn't uh develop the city-owned property across the street, the three acres. [1:28:43, 1:28:56]: because multifamily is not allowed. Two, such uses are already allowed within the adjacent PMU overlay district along North Herring Boulevard. So um the DT [1:28:57, 1:29:05]: The overlay district connects with the PMU, but certain uses are allowed in the PMU that are not allowed in the uh [1:29:05, 1:29:19]: in the DTB overlay but are allowed in the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. So the proposed actions what we're proposing tonight is to remove and replace the existing section 2.53 E and section 2.53 F. [1:29:21, 1:29:35]: Um special uses to be added to the DTV overlay district. Currently you can have gasoline stations, minor automotive services, repair, maintenance cars, car washes, convenience center uh stores, and other associated uses. [1:29:36, 1:29:50]: They're permitted by right. So what we're proposing is that these uses now will require a special use permit, meaning that they will now have to have to come before city council to get approval to open those type of businesses within the downtown uh overlay district. [1:29:52, 1:30:05]: Currently, gasoline stations, minor automotive service repair, maintenance centers, car washes, convenience stores, and other associated uses are permitted by right currently. [1:30:05, 1:30:07]: In the downtown village overlay district. [1:30:08, 1:30:10]: So we're we are proposing is to make those [1:30:11, 1:30:19]: Uh uh permitted by a special use permit, meaning that they will have to come before city council to get approval and take away the the the the right. [1:30:19, 1:30:20]: To do it. [1:30:22, 1:30:39]: That's the same thing we did to the Parkway mixed use overlay district um about seven or eight months ago. Restaurants, takeout establishments, banks, and pharmacies with drive-through facilities and or windows would be allowed with a special use permit and other uses to be determined by the community development director. [1:30:42, 1:31:02]: Proposed list of special uses to be allowed in the DTV overlay district with a special use permit. Um those that are on the screen that are appearing by red. Um all special uses that's provided in the downtown district, which is the zoning district, bed and breakfast establishments, gasoline. [1:31:02, 1:31:22]: Station, minor automo automotive service, repair, maintenance centers, car washes, convenience stores, and other associated will now require a special use permit. They are already permitted in the zoning district, which is the downtown district, but the overlay district, like I said, sits on top of the overlay district and has some additional restrictions. [1:31:22, 1:31:26]: So multifamily residential buildings would now be allowed. [1:31:26, 1:31:27]: In the downtown. [1:31:28, 1:31:35]: And in the downtown overlay district. This is for to facilitate the development of the three acres that the city owns across from City Hall. [1:31:35, 1:31:55]: Passenger depots and transit shelters, restaurants, takeout establishment, banks, and pharmacies with drive-through facilities, annual window, single family residences, and other special uses. So this is a list of changes that we're proposing that would now require a special use permit by city council. Question. Yes, sir. So while [1:31:55, 1:32:06]: Why w uh I'm I'm I'm curious the single the single family residents, why would that need a special purpose? Why is that why would that be added? Because currently single family residents aren't allowed. [1:32:09, 1:32:18]: They are here. They're grandfathered in, but currently they're not allowed if you want to build a new single family residence in the downtown district. So we want to make that uh permitted use. [1:32:18, 1:32:38]: With a special use permit so that someone could build a single family or single family residences downtown. Yes, sir. In this area. And this yeah, and uh that's why I'm saying we're trying to improve the existing code. So that's why we're gonna go. [1:32:38, 1:32:58]: in the zoning ordinance. So we're we're currently going through the zoning ordinances, uh looking at ways to improve it because the the the document was just adopted by council in 2022. And then when and it wouldn't look good for us to do a total rewrite of the of the code. But the code really is is not uh applicable to a growing city like Stockbridge. It's more [1:32:58, 1:33:03]: in line with an established city. So there's some things in there that really needs to be changed. [1:33:03, 1:33:17]: So l let me ask you a question. So instead of just making it a special use permit, why wouldn't you just put it in the zoning, you know, and then allow it to fli like the rest of the city to be able to prove it through a rezoning? [1:33:17, 1:33:37]: I mean we could add to the uh yeah. See that's why it's a presentation to get your input on the stuff. Right, because I mean I don't want somebody comes with a good special um single family residence for the downtown area. They shouldn't have to come to us to get it approved. They should be able to look at the zoning to ascertain whether that project is appropriate under that particular zone. [1:33:37, 1:33:57]: zoning. Now if they wanted to rezone it to a higher intense use, then probably they would probably need to come to us. But I wouldn't expect every single family neighborhood to have to come to us. But it's also good to have it, I mean not not trying to go against you, but it's also good to um have it as a special use permit because someone might purchase some land downtown in an area. [1:33:57, 1:33:58]: [5639.8, 5645.7]: uh single family residents to go. So that's why it would be good for them to come before council to get the council's blessing on that. [1:34:07, 1:34:27]: It it's it yeah, you're right, it's a ch it's kinda like a uh uh it could go both ways, but in the end so what was the res we've had have we had that situation occur where somebody wanted to bring single family in, they couldn't where that wouldn't be. [1:34:27, 1:34:33]: um build a single family residence on it, but code prohibited it. So that was one instance since I've been here. [1:34:34, 1:34:48]: Okay, so what you're basically saying is that if someone wanted to be a residential on a potential commercial lot They they would have to get a r seek a rezoning and come be come before counsel for a rezoning and for a special use permit. [1:34:49, 1:35:07]: Right, in a certain area, but but that would be that would have to be a commercial use changing to a residential use. But if it was already a residential use that was determined on the map as a residential use, why should they have to come to us for that? And they don't have to do that anywhere else in the city. [1:35:08, 1:35:15]: I mean that's why I'm s that's why we're here to to amend the code, the current code prohibits single family residents in the downtown district. [1:35:15, 1:35:35]: Right, but my my I think it would be a better choice just to have it be if it's a residential lot, it's already residential, to put it to put it put it in the zoning code as residential, you could be able to determine the based on the zoning whether it's appropriate or not, if they wanted to change that residential zoning and then [1:35:35, 1:35:55]: Their district, then they would have to come to it. Yes, I understand what you're saying, but that's that would be uh fairly infrequent because most of the zoning downtown is DT, downtown uh zoning. Uh the DTV is the overlay district that sits on top of the downtown uh zoning district. So most of everything downtown is DT. [1:35:56, 1:35:58]: Yes. Yeah. Go ahead, please. [1:35:59, 1:36:19]: What what are passenger depots and uh like transit shelters? This is like um bus stops or things of that nature. Similar to a bus stop or a place, a centralized place where where a bus could come and pick people up, or where like a Uber drop off station or something like that. Okay. So that's that's some modern [1:36:19, 1:36:39]: On things that um most cities have centralized places for uh pickup. Okay. So I can um I can support that. I do not support letter H giving you discretion to make that decision. Yeah. I don't support that at all. I understand. Considering these are recommendations that you're making to [1:36:39, 1:36:53]: us and these special use permits will have to be presented to the council for us to make a decision. There's no need for letter H. Okay. I understand. Um the other question I had though, and you mentioned it. [1:36:53, 1:37:06]: Um with the restricted uses for tire shops, barbershops, hair salons, nail salons, car washes, is that one of the restricted uses currently? Uh gas. [1:37:06, 1:37:11]: Currently you can have those by permit their permitted uses. Currently you can you can do it by right. [1:37:12, 1:37:13]: So we're [1:37:13, 1:37:15]: We're proposing that they have to come before council. [1:37:16, 1:37:18]: So currently right now [1:37:18, 1:37:23]: If it meets all other standards, they can they can put a gas station, they can put a automobile repair. [1:37:23, 1:37:30]: All that within the downtown village overlay district. Okay, I don't want that. So that's why we're that's why we're proposing to change that. [1:37:30, 1:37:32]: Okay. We don't want that. Yes. [1:37:33, 1:37:34]: We don't want [1:37:35, 1:37:49]: Hair salons, nail salons, bait shops. Well have that car shops. We don't even want car washes in our downtown area. We'll have room for one anyway. Yeah, uh yes, they would have to to come before you to get a special use permit. [1:37:51, 1:37:57]: I don't want to allow that even for them to request a special use permit. [1:37:58, 1:38:01]: None of these particular establishments [1:38:02, 1:38:03]: Will I support? [1:38:03, 1:38:05]: Okay. [1:38:05, 1:38:14]: Um, they request a special use permit and it has to be presented to the council. I'm not gonna support a special use permit. [1:38:14, 1:38:15]: For a tile tar shop. [1:38:16, 1:38:19]: barbershop, hair salon, nail salon, [1:38:19, 1:38:39]: car wash, vape shop, or any other automobile type service repair shop, not in the downtown. Yes, I understand, but currently if they meet the right requirements, they can build one by right. And there's nothing they wouldn't even have to go through zoning. Right now it's uh it's permitted by right. [1:38:39, 1:38:41]: So we're trying to restrict it somewhat. [1:38:41, 1:38:53]: Okay. So that's the that's what we're trying to do. Right now if they find the right piece of land downtown and it meets the the distance requirement and they want to put a a uh automobile repair, they can just go right through zoning. [1:38:54, 1:39:01]: But we're trying to restrict it a little bit, making them r making the developer have to get a special use permit to come to can before council before that could be done. [1:39:02, 1:39:17]: All right, good morning. I don't want I'm not done. If I can finish it. Go ahead, please. Go ahead, finish. Um so I y you mean just like the what is it, the Texaco or is that a Shale gas station or North Henry? Um The Shale? [1:39:17, 1:39:36]: Is that a share? Yeah, that was grandfathered in, yeah. That was grandfathered in, yes. Okay. But see, now we're we're proposing to make those uh you can only have those with a special use permit. But now they're they're permitted by right. If somebody finds the right amount of land and wanna and they're and they meet the distance requirement, they can build a sh a shale gas station in downtown. [1:39:36, 1:39:40]: Okay. I don't want that. I wouldn't support that. Um [1:39:41, 1:40:01]: So let's see. Did you say that um this is just a presentation and you're asking us to vote? No, not a vote tonight. This is just a presentation to get counsel input and feedback on the on the final document. This is just a draft document. So once we take your input, staff is taking notes and we'll go back and touch this. [1:40:01, 1:40:07]: up and then we'll bring it back before you on August eleventh for the final vote. But this is just a presentation. [1:40:07, 1:40:09]: Gotcha. Thank you. All right. [1:40:10, 1:40:11]: Hi, Mr. Azan. [1:40:12, 1:40:32]: Uh you know, I think what I wanna get to is that those uses sh should most of them should already be prohibited under the distance usage. That's why we established them. I mean yes. There's a car minor repair in downtown Stockbridge right now. So they're already grandpa that it that the mileage distance there couldn't be there's [1:40:32, 1:40:52]: Two there now, so there couldn't be another one. Yes, but yeah, if one of them was say for one of'em went out of b went out of business and they wanted to reopen, we w they would have to come back before council get special use permit to right. So it would be a combination of things. I wouldn't want one to go away and then have the other ones. I would certainly want to make sure that those limits [1:40:52, 1:41:12]: were in place that we've already put in place on the vape shops, on the tire shops, all of those limits have distance limits already. I would want those to stay in in place. Yes. In addition to this, I would not want them to replace it or for them to go away. Because uh but we need to make sure that we're enforcing them. Yes [1:41:12, 1:41:32]: also important to understand that along Northern Boulevard, as you see the PMU, the plan uh the the PMU designation, uh, or the overlay or the parkway ordinance is is really um I'm not sure how the shell got grandfather then under that. I was trying [1:41:31, 1:41:42]: figure that out myself. They were they were approved under the previous director and um and they kept renewing their uh business I mean their uh LDP. [1:41:43, 1:41:49]: So they w they were approved way back when we before we adopted the highway over. Yeah, before March twenty twenty two. [1:41:49, 1:42:00]: Before we adopted the new UDC with the parkway mixed use overlay dishes. Well, we we adopted the part the original highway corridor plan in like twenty seventeen. But it was permi it was permitted on the under that one. [1:42:01, 1:42:21]: Okay, so I just um all of those restrictions and the overlays work very well in combination with what we're trying to do to move the city in a different direction to establish a higher quality of businesses and to make sure that we're not saturated with unwanted businesses and repeat businesses, you know. [1:42:21, 1:42:41]: certainly uh those distance limits as we're trying uh you know someone wanted to bring forward another uh a use uh I'm not gonna say that uh in terms of on on North Henry Boulevard we already have seven of them. They wanted to have another one and they wanted to s because they w because uh technically they wanted to appeal it but I certainly [1:42:41, 1:43:01]: What is going to support that? Because in the end, we why would we set the limit? And then every time somebody came to us, we wanted to override it and then say, okay, since it's somebody I know or somebody a friend of mine, then okay, well, let's open up number seven, but we won't do it for everybody. So that's not something that I want to see done. And I want to make sure that we're going to be able to do [1:43:01, 1:43:21]: We're doing this and that we're staying in line with the the the restricted usage, which there's a list of restrictions that are by designation uh by distance and uh car wash, we set a car wash restriction on the on limit, we set a um a limit on and [1:43:21, 1:43:39]: And then though there was supposed to be one coming back to us on storage facilities. Yes. I don't recall that one coming back to us. I mean we got a list of text amendments we're working on. So we'll we'll be coming back. So we're just knocking them down as as the zoning season slow up a little bit. [1:43:39, 1:43:41]: Yeah, go ahead please. [1:43:42, 1:43:47]: Ma'am. Are you gonna provide us with a map because there's not a downtown village overlay? [1:43:49, 1:43:55]: Okay, yeah, I will provide you one in the final in the when uh when we re upload. But here's the map right here. [1:43:59, 1:44:00]: Just stand by. [1:44:02, 1:44:04]: You good? Okay. All right. [1:44:04, 1:44:06]: As as we're going on this [1:44:07, 1:44:12]: It may not have been uh but uh but I get it to you. I I I get it to you. All right. [1:44:12, 1:44:32]: As we're going along with this, the one thing that I like to see us do is to work on the sign ordinance in downtown. Yeah, we that's that's on that's because right now uh the signage is very unattractive. And to me, they should be uh there should be individual letters attached to the building. That should be the standard like what we have at the amphitheater. [1:44:32, 1:44:44]: there mm where those are channel those are channel letter, no box signs, everything should be of high quality materials. And it should it should the amphitheater should be the template [1:44:44, 1:44:52]: from where we're trying to go, where we jump across the tracks and say, Okay, this is where we are. Because you know, having a box sign with a l uh with a [1:44:53, 1:45:13]: It it is low quality in every aspect and we need to update that. Yeah, so s staff is currently working on a um RFP to update the UDC, not to do a major rewrite, but to do a um an update. So we have X amount of dollars set aside for that. So we'll be coming after we select the vendor to do that, we'll we should be coming back um [1:45:13, 1:45:18]: before uh council, probably around October to get council to approve, whoever we select. [1:45:19, 1:45:32]: Okay, and as we move along with the wayfinding and the br and the branding uh for the city. Now I love the new signs that we chose, the ones that are going in downtown. I would like to see [1:45:33, 1:45:41]: on one that are going in downtown, but they're gonna go all over the city. I would like that to be a requirement that everybody, that e every new sign, [1:45:41, 1:46:01]: carry the branding, carry the when the new neighborhoods are created, that they would have similar signage and that that would be a staple. And when you go anywhere throughout Stockbridge, that that signage would be would match up with what we're trying to do with the new signage, the new parking signage, the new directional signage. Yes sir. I I agree, yeah. Okay. [1:46:01, 1:46:17]: To to make that happen then what we would have to do an amendment on that to make that happen? Uh no, uh actually uh in the RFP we're working on, we're uh we're um requiring the consultant to update our sign ordinance. So we'll take that input and pass it along and get it in that rewrite. [1:46:18, 1:46:23]: Okay. So we'll definitely get we got a we have a list of all the things that we need to correct with the UDC. So we will do that. [1:46:26, 1:46:46]: Okay. And you have no other comments, sir. Okay. So that's the end of that one. Okay, so we'll go on to the next one. Text amendment uh TX two zero two five-zero two citywide. First reading council consideration of text amendment for personal care homes to replace sections three point two point two eight and three point two point two nine in chapter three of the stop region. [1:46:46, 1:47:06]: Unified Development Code UDC to create a new section to combine, revise, and augment the provisions, standards, licensing, regulation, and oversight for personal care homes. To amend Chapter 9.70 within Title IX of Stockbridge Code of Ordinances, to add a new section which allows for the pre provisions, standards, licensing, [1:47:06, 1:47:26]: Regulation oversight of the personal care homes as are distinguished from daycare centers, family daycare centers, and group daycare center homes within the city of Stockbridge to establish supplemental use of standards of personal care homes for one to six unrelated adults to identify zoning districts which such uses are permitted. [1:47:26, 1:47:41]: permitted by a special use permit to establish compliance operational and developmental standards to amend the home occupation section and for other purposes. Currently the city of Stockbridge has no mechanism for licensing and regulating personal care homes. Please, Mr. Anderson. [1:47:41, 1:48:01]: Yes, uh Merriam, I'm gonna summarize this just for sake of time. Sure. Um the Business License Department in the community and business license division within the community development department is governed by two documents: the Unified Development Code and the City Code of Ordinances. The Unified Development Code, which was adopted in March 2022. [1:48:01, 1:48:03]: P allows for personal care homes. [1:48:04, 1:48:24]: With a special use permit. However, the City Code of Ordinances doesn't allow us to issue a business license for that. So I worked in a lot of different municipalities, and every municipality I worked in do allow personal care homes with with a special use permit and with distance. [1:48:24, 1:48:44]: requirements and et cetera. So what we've done, what staff done, we crafted some regular some standards and regulations to go along with what the UDC says, and we need councils to basically remove the conflict that does not allow the business license division to issue [1:48:44, 1:48:48]: um occupational tax license for a um a personal care home. [1:48:48, 1:49:08]: Okay. Thank you. Go ahead, sir. Let me say this. I I'm certainly supportive of doing what I saw um at uh the New Well where we were, uh over on Rock Quarry. That certainly was a commercial building, but I'm not in support of putting these in residential areas. And certainly we had we were [1:49:08, 1:49:19]: we're going to be able to put um a requ we had re approved a map in the areas that we wanted these uh facilities to go. I'm not trying to lower the barrier. [1:49:19, 1:49:39]: To allow something that we don't want and the residents don't want. Okay. So the idea, what I would like to see, if you ask me, is to be able to put something together where we have certain areas like again, the uh the the New Well was in a right area. It was right there. It took over a commercial business. They were able to [1:49:39, 1:49:59]: to get up and run and they're performing a magnificent service. Right now they have thirty thirty four, thirty four thirty thirty four and they have openings for another fifteen or sixteen improved transportation. That's the appropriate approach that I would like to see. So councilmember Alexander, that's that's not in question right now. The um [1:49:59, 1:50:19]: The UDC already provides and restricts where these personal care homes can go. So it's already, it was the UDC was adopted by council in March 2022. So by law, we have to allow these, but the city code of ordinance does not allow us to issue a business license. [1:50:19, 1:50:39]: I know that it's already approved. Well, I I understand that. I'm not trying to change the rules to make it easier for an applicant to put one in a residential area because we don't we can deal with that in that way. That's not what I'm trying to do. I'm sorry. That's not what I'm trying to do. Okay. So we have um it it won't [1:50:39, 1:50:42]: [6645.1, 6655.1]: on an area that is citizen primarily commercial and or mixed use or something like that. But in an established elemental neighborhood, we got [1:50:55, 1:51:03]: Let me let me go through uh the um the regulations for you. Maybe you you'll feel a little bit com more comfortable. They have to have two acres of land. [1:51:07, 1:51:27]: Uh personal care home, uh we define as a residential facility providing assistance to individuals who need help with daily activities but who do not require the level of medical care found in nursing homes. Personal care homes are per are provided to no more than six nonfamily adults. Personal care service include but are not limited to individual assistance. [1:51:27, 1:51:28]: [6688.5, 6704.1]: or supervision, self-administered medication, and essential activities of daily living such as eating, bathing, grooming, dressing, and toileting. A personal care home may not provide nursing or other medical services or admit and retain residents who need continuous medical or nursing care. [1:51:46, 1:51:55]: Each personal care home must have an administrator who's responsible on a 24-hour day basis, seven days a week, 365 days a year, and must live on site. [1:51:58, 1:52:00]: Code of ordinances Section nine point [1:52:02, 1:52:22]: The applicable city codes of ordinances regulating. Section 9.70.020 of the Stockbridge Munich Code, which is part of Title IX for licensing regulations, provide definitions for daycare centers, family care centers, and group daycare homes, but not specifically for personal care homes. That's why we can't issue the license. [1:52:22, 1:52:42]: even though zoning they you can get zoning approval with a special use permit, but we we don't have the authority to issue a business license. This should have been um worked out when the code was when um the zoning code was first uh the drafted the um the consultant should have gone and looked at the city code of ordinances [1:52:42, 1:52:47]: and contrasted that contrasted that with what they were doing. But there were a lot of conflicts [1:52:50, 1:52:58]: So uh here's the table right now uh for um that's already allowed in the city of Stockbridge right now for personal care homes. [1:53:00, 1:53:01]: It can be an R R [1:53:01, 1:53:16]: with a special use permit. Suburban residential with a with a special use permit. Center center uh central city residential with a special use permit. MFR with a special use permit. OI with a special use permit. [1:53:19, 1:53:25]: Uh I'm sorry, I'm uh minimum site area they must have I said two acres, they must have one acre. [1:53:27, 1:53:47]: One acre of land must meet the zoning setback requirements. Must be a single family home, freestanding structure, or within a religious facility. It can be one to six unrelated adults, 24-hour supervision, two parking spaces plus one ADA space per non-resident. No parking shall be allowed in the front. [1:53:47, 1:53:52]: front yard setback. A six foot privacy fence shall be installed around the perimeter and sides of the house. [1:53:53, 1:54:13]: And must have minimum square footage of 2,250 square feet. The exterior appearance of any residential structure for which a personal care home is approved shall be maintained as a residential and no sign shall be erected. Central HVAC system in good working condition. Facility must include accessible features as ramp, grab, [1:54:13, 1:54:21]: Bars and clear path to travel in accordance with ADA. And flock cameras must be installed with 363 coverage around the structure. [1:54:24, 1:54:38]: These are the other standards and um w we're considered a it is a as a regulated business in the city of Stockbridge and they w must pay an annual fifteen hundred dollar fee. Uh they have to have a security plan, uh other security measure measures [1:54:40, 1:54:40]: Um [1:54:42, 1:54:45]: So but like I I I previously mentioned, um [1:54:49, 1:55:09]: Currently, the city already allows for personal care homes within the city as part of the unified development code. The only issue here is a conflict within the city code of ordinances that prohibits us from issuing a bit a business license for that. But I was advised that. [1:55:09, 1:55:29]: But usually you go with the the last adopted code, which would be uh the UDC. So the UDC was adopted in 2022, which make it's it's the prevailing uh document. It takes precedence over the city code of ordinances. But we wanted to bring this to council. We didn't just didn't want to make that decision. [1:55:29, 1:55:34]: So I'm finished with my presentation. [1:55:34, 1:55:35]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead, please. [1:55:36, 1:55:43]: I know that personal care homes um is something that we we needed in my district. [1:55:43, 1:55:59]: Mm. You are aware of the situation with a homeowner. I've been gonna lie. Who's been waiting for this council to adopt some type of ordinance so that she can move forward with her personal care home. Uh it's been over a year. Or close to. [1:56:00, 1:56:20]: And year. I want to get this matter resolved as quickly as possible. There are state laws that govern this. Yeah, there are the fact that the city didn't have the ordinances in place to allow for it. Ma'am, we we didn't have we didn't have the regulations in place, but we had the the the the the right, you could have a right to open up a personal care [1:56:20, 1:56:36]: It's a business license that you couldn't issue. Could not issue a business license. So we want to resolve that conflict. I mean every every community in the state of Georgia allows for personal care homes. So I've been getting a lot of calls from uh the state, state, our local delegation. Um [1:56:37, 1:56:42]: So they've they've been doing a lot of complaining, uh Yes, we need to get this get this done. [1:56:42, 1:57:02]: resolved as quickly as possible. I do want to ask though about a distance requirement. Yes, there's a distance requirement. What do you think? It's currently most places have you can't have one fifteen hundred feet within each other, but we'll I'll even go up to our standard forty five hundred feet. I'll change it to forty five hundred feet, but usually it's fifteen hundred feet apart. [1:57:02, 1:57:22]: That's what most municipalities have. Okay. So but thank you. Yeah, but it's it's state law. We can't w so we just got to resolve the conflict. And uh I think we have some pretty stringent criteria. Um uh you can't you wouldn't be able to tell if if if one person is living there because they won't have any signage, it'll look just like a regular home. [1:57:22, 1:57:42]: So um yes, sir. Oh I I'm sorry, mayor had to recognize it. No, no, no. The only issue with the business license is that it was omitted from the list of the other types of homes and that this particular one, so it's literally just like a a snap food. Yeah, a scribbler's like a scribner's error. But um [1:57:42, 1:58:02]: So it just needs to be added to that one section. I mean all other city documents provide for personal care homes. Uh so but we took advantage of this to tighten up the standards um for requiring flock cameras and security, um making it have to be at least one acre in um and one allowment in a [1:58:02, 1:58:22]: a traditional subdivision, an existing subdivision. Are the standards the same whether it's personal care, uh and the other types that w that w that are approved for business like uh no because uh not exactly because you can't have uh a daycare with a couple of kids in your house in a existing uh yeah [1:58:22, 1:58:33]: subdivision. So but we we restricted this um as best we could to still comply with state law. I but um it's something we we won't have a choice but to do. [1:58:35, 1:58:36]: Okay, thank you. All right. [1:58:37, 1:58:45]: I didn't really quit Mayor Four. When are you gonna bring this back to us as a final On the eleven. On the eleven it'll be a public hearing. [1:58:46, 1:58:46]: Thank you. [1:58:48, 1:58:55]: Okay. But I I was just trying to get council input on any proposed changes, but this is something we we we have to do. So it's [1:58:56, 1:58:57]: Please uh I just uh one [1:58:57, 1:58:59]: Okay. [1:58:59, 1:59:19]: I understand where we are and uh those uses would be to me would be in in certain areas to be mandated and and and allowed. Certainly we would allow them in the community. We would allow them in the community, but not in in in every in [1:59:19, 1:59:20]: In [1:59:22, 1:59:42]: Certain in resid in certain residential districts where we would we would not allow it, whether that was what if that's permissible, that we would have certain areas where we would identify this is the place in the city where we would want to place this. Yes, sir. Because there's no way around it. This is putting a resid this is putting a commercial business into a residential business. [1:59:41, 2:00:01]: Neighborhood. There's no way around it. You can paint it pink if you want to, but it's still a commercial business being put next door to someone who lives there. However, we want to couch it. It is a commercial business next door to me. And that neighbor is going to have a commercial business next door to [2:00:01, 2:00:21]: them. Now the fifteen hundred square feet is for if somebody wants to build another one. Yeah, but we go but literally the person who owns this business next door to them on both sides of them, it could be resid it could be residents that own their home. But they can't you can't put it in a subdivision and you have to have at least one acre of land. It can't go into like [2:00:21, 2:00:30]: Your your subdivision. I'm just using you as an example. They couldn't put a personal care home in your subdivision. Right. They can only it has to be a an existing house. [2:00:31, 2:00:36]: U a an existing uh detached single family detached on at least a acre of land. [2:00:36, 2:00:42]: So what what is that what it what w what what is was that fit it with a current application that we have? [2:00:42, 2:01:02]: Uh yeah, that current application does meet that. It's not in a subdivision. And uh it's they have more than an acre of land. So this neighborhood, we're doing all of this for to comply with the one that was uh was submitted to us? No, not not necessarily to Council Member Malaysia. We're doing this to comply with state law. So it it must have been a script. [2:01:02, 2:01:22]: criminals error or something in the city code of ordinances that that did not uh address personal care homes to allow us to issue issue a business license. But it's everywhere else in our other city documents. But we decided to bring it to council to get council approval and they still would need to come before council to get a special use permit. [2:01:22, 2:01:33]: to even get a personal care home license. They couldn't just say I I found the a a house with an acre of land, I'ma open up a personal care home. They still have to come get counselors blessing on that. See as someone who [2:01:34, 2:01:54]: Deals with this on a regular basis when you sign a contract and you buy a pearl property and then you go back and say, okay, let me get the zoning for it. Shouldn't work that way. This zoning should have came first. Yeah. Should have came first before you signed the contract, before you uh went down that line and secured the expenses and encouraged. [2:01:54, 2:02:14]: covering those expenses, that's where the services of a really good realtor comes in at where they advise you to go get the zoning first. Yeah. So we encourage all our uh customers to do the due diligence before we ask them to apply for a zoning verification before they sign any contracts or purchase any land. And sometimes we run into that situation where they buy [2:02:14, 2:02:34]: I run into it all the time where somebody has signed a contract, they have committed to leasing a property, they come to the city, then they call me and say, you know, I need you to bail me out. Uh I signed this lease for two years, the landlord won't their money, and we're in a situation where we got to I'm sorry, I can't help you at this point. [2:02:34, 2:02:37]: Law is the law. And that's why we are. Yeah. [2:02:39, 2:02:40]: Yes, ma'am, go away, please. [2:02:41, 2:02:46]: So there is a unique situation in my district. [2:02:46, 2:02:50]: My district is a district with the large largest amount of [2:02:51, 2:02:52]: Newly annexed. [2:02:52, 2:02:54]: residents as of twenty twenty three. [2:02:55, 2:02:56]: Well [2:02:56, 2:02:58]: There was already a homeowner. [2:02:59, 2:03:01]: Who purchased a home? [2:03:01, 2:03:03]: prior to the annexation. [2:03:03, 2:03:06]: Форві сол перпис. [2:03:06, 2:03:11]: of establishing a personal care home. Yes. So when the annexation happened [2:03:13, 2:03:18]: She got caught up in this situation. Yeah. So it's been since twenty twenty three. [2:03:19, 2:03:39]: Which is why I'm urging this council and staff, we need to expedite this. Make it right. We've been working on it. I wanna I wanna know, and I'll talk to you offline about it, what the status of the business license for that homeowner who has been persistent in getting this rectified. [2:03:39, 2:03:59]: I wanna know the status of that. I can tell you probably not here. Okay. Oh but I can tell you now. Um once we come back on the eleventh and this get adopted, her her case is on the agenda after this. And then we'll see. Yes, it will be on the agenda on the eleventh. And then [2:03:58, 2:04:02]: If it's approved through a special use permit, she can get a business license. [2:04:03, 2:04:07]: She still had to get a a special use permit approval from council to open up a personal care home. [2:04:08, 2:04:18]: Can you please make sure that request for a special use permit is also added to the agenda? Yes, ma'am. But I think the council approves this. Thank you. All right. It's on there. [2:04:21, 2:04:41]: All right, no other questions, we'll move on. City of Stockbridge Short-Term Work Program, Capital Improvement Element, STWPCIE for 2026 to 2030, citywide council consideration to improve. I mean to sign the letter of transmit to the city of Stockbridge twenty uh twenty twenty-six. [2:04:41, 2:04:50]: A 2030 STWP CIE Short-Term Work Program Capital Improvement Element to the Latin Regional Commission ARC. [2:04:50, 2:05:10]: Uh Ms. Anderson, please. Okay, the the the intent tonight is to do a pr a draft a presentation of the draft to uh city council and also to get a vote on allowing the mayor to transmit the document to uh the ARC. We won't have the final document until the results of the city audit is is complete. [2:05:10, 2:05:21]: expect that by the end of the week. But so we won't jeopardize our QLG standing. We decided to to bring this um to council tonight so we can mail it off um first of next week. [2:05:23, 2:05:26]: So this is our draft capital improvement plan. [2:05:29, 2:05:35]: Here's the uh the letter that Mayor Ford will sign after tonight, uh if council grants approval. [2:05:37, 2:05:41]: Here's the resolution right here that will be signed. [2:05:41, 2:05:44]: And submitted along with the transmitter of the letter. [2:05:45, 2:05:52]: Here's a list of the infrastructure projects that are in the short-term work program. Um [2:05:54, 2:06:00]: So we identified a total of twenty-two twenty-two million nine hundred and five thousand dollars. [2:06:00, 2:06:04]: and total infrastructure needs that we will be working towards for the next five years. [2:06:06, 2:06:13]: We've identified one point eight million dollars in economic development capital and improvement projects. [2:06:24, 2:06:26]: Thanks that we're gonna say. [2:06:29, 2:06:36]: Uh planning and development uh land use we've identified a million dollars worth of capital improvement needs. [2:06:40, 2:06:43]: Transportation including road construction and [2:06:44, 2:06:50]: Other right-of-way acquisition, we've identified fifteen point five million dollars in need. [2:06:50, 2:07:10]: Municipal building, we've identified fifty-four million dollars in municipal building projects. That's pretty high because um we have a cultural arts center and a multi-purpose facility. So we'll be aiming to make bring those two projects into fruition within the next five years. And we will be building public work. [2:07:10, 2:07:17]: Works we'll be building a maintenance shop. And we've identified$2.5 million in uh public work vehicles and equipments. [2:07:19, 2:07:26]: And additional infrastructure projects, we've identified thirteen point seven million dollars. This includes water, sewer, stormway. [2:07:26, 2:07:28]: The way finding, including a digital sign. [2:07:29, 2:07:31]: The downtown utility relocation. [2:07:31, 2:07:37]: The Alloway project and the downtown lightning project, we identify four million dollars. Uh [2:07:41, 2:07:46]: And park improvements, we've identified six million dollars in needs. [2:07:49, 2:07:52]: Sidewalks we've identified thirteen million dollars in need. [2:08:01, 2:08:02]: So in all [2:08:03, 2:08:05]: We've identified over um [2:08:09, 2:08:16]: Well hold on, let me go back to the list of completed projects. This is the list of completed projects that we've completed over the the past years. [2:08:21, 2:08:23]: I think altogether w we have like [2:08:24, 2:08:30]: Eighty nine million worth of capital improvement needs that we've identified for the city. [2:08:33, 2:08:35]: So that's that's in there. [2:08:46, 2:08:48]: Okay. [2:08:52, 2:08:53]: Any questions, Council? [2:08:55, 2:08:56]: Yes, sir. [2:08:56, 2:09:16]: I think the city has made some changes. I think we prioritized the recreation center, which we have ten million dollars uh in Sploss in order to um bring that pro and uh and and we we unanimously agreed that was the top priority project for the city. So certainly [2:09:16, 2:09:36]: that is something that the council has indicated and put skin in the game that we wanted to happen first and we're looking to identify funding for that. I think um, you know, certainly that large number that stands out, the$34 million for the Cultural Arts Center has moved down the list. [2:09:36, 2:09:56]: probably uh is it even feasible at this point would probably be something that we would need to um uh evaluate currently it's on there and I know you gotta uh go ahead and get the list approved but the public should know where the sentiment uh the general sentiment of the council is to make that probably [2:09:56, 2:10:02]: project the recreation center um come to fruition and uh [2:10:04, 2:10:05]: In the show. [2:10:05, 2:10:25]: Would you like to remove it, Councilman Melazan? Would you like to remove the cultural oxygen? No, no, I don't think we're gonna do that at this point. I just think we're gonna go ahead and transmit it as is. I think that's the direction that we're leaning in. I think the Multicultural Senior Center, the the the cost estimate is gonna have is is not even close. I think that's [2:10:25, 2:10:35]: That one was a around thirty million dollars. We have ten million dollars in splots allocated to it, but the correct number for the estimate for the building was around thirty million dollars. [2:10:36, 2:10:41]: For the multi purpose? Yes. Okay, so we can go, get the notes on there. [2:10:44, 2:10:45]: So that won't be thirty million. [2:10:48, 2:10:50]: Okay. We'll we'll update that. [2:10:51, 2:10:52]: Any other questions this side? [2:10:57, 2:11:03]: So if you update that then otherwise you just need to vote in reverence to transmit. Okay. [2:11:07, 2:11:27]: All right, so is there a uh a vote to uh go forward with the so we transmit this and sign off on this? This is this is clarification, this is to maintain our qualified local government status which would be at risk should we not move forward with Yes sir. If we're late they'll suspend us. So we're trying to get moving on. It's a mandate s so move. Is there a second? [2:11:27, 2:11:47]: Mr. Berry, second at all in favor? Is it okay? She now said okay. We got three votes. We will come back uh with the final draft um and with within 30 days. Um after after we send this to ARC and they make their their uh recommendations, then we'll change and update it, and then we'll have to have a public hearing on it. So but right now we just [2:11:47, 2:11:47]: Yeah. [2:11:48, 2:12:08]: Uh seek seek got permission to send the the draft information off to the ARC. Okay, so the the okay the letter and and the uh resolution needs to be signed with the next day or so to go off to then transmit to you. Yes, sir. I have to wait till finance give me the updated uh financials, the audited information. Okay. So uh Mr. Malazzi said that should be r uh ready by um [2:12:08, 2:12:11]: Friday, so we'll have this in the mail by um Monday. [2:12:11, 2:12:14]: All right. So be it. Thank you. Okay. [2:12:15, 2:12:23]: Okay, council's consideration to approve a forfeited uh vehicle for our fleet in order to enhance police operations. Assistant Chief Godfrey, please. [2:12:28, 2:12:48]: Mayor Council, good evening. Good evening. So before you is a request from the police department uh for council to acknowledge receipt of an approved uh vehicle to be added uh to the police fleet. This is a forfeited vehicle awarded to the city by Henry County Superior Court. Uh our intent is, if approved, is to add this to our fleet to be [2:12:48, 2:12:50]: used for covert police operations. [2:12:51, 2:12:53]: Okay. Any questions, uh council? [2:12:56, 2:12:57]: No, I'll make a motion, sir. [2:12:58, 2:12:59]: All right, you make a motion? [2:13:00, 2:13:13]: I motion to approve the forfeited vehicle to our fleet in order to enhance police operations. To a second. Second. Mr. I would like to understand for the public purview so everybody understands what is the vehicle. [2:13:14, 2:13:21]: Sir, we can't read the the description of the vehicle into public record because of its intent intended purpose of police operations. [2:13:21, 2:13:27]: Okay, so it can't it can't be made public. Correct. So we need to talk about it in an executive session or something? [2:13:28, 2:13:47]: I don't I would I would think that this probably not exactly such an issue. I don't know, I'm just saying. I I don't know. How would we know what it was? Well it's it's a I don't wanna hunt I don't wanna hunt i i and in in all fairness I I trust you guys, but at the same time we don't want tactical weapons like some cities are doing well on the street. Yes sir, this is this is a passenger vehicle. Okay. [2:13:47, 2:13:53]: Okay, I I would think that uh we don't need to know that either. From Miss uh Barber to Mr. Barr, all in favor, please indicate. [2:13:54, 2:14:14]: Okay, speaking of decisions. Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Assistant chief. Uh council consideration to approve an emergency procurement exception in increasing the Stockbridge Police Department FY 2025 spending authority with legacy forward to the amount not to exceed$95,000. This authorization is necessary to cover$22,955. [2:14:14, 2:14:26]: And$21,000 in the projected vehicle maintenance costs for the next sixty days. My competitive request for proposal RFP is finalized. Chief Travel, please. [2:14:26, 2:14:41]: Uh good evening, Mayor and uh members of the council. Uh as you're aware, Mayor Ford, in your capacity as the acting city manager, we had presented a memo to you as per the city ordinance to request an emergency exception to the procurement code to authorize the um [2:14:41, 2:15:01]: Continued maintenance of our police fleet. Uh currently, as you all know, our procurement code uh caps fifty thousand dollars before we have to go out to competitively bid something. We've been working with Legacy Ford. We found them to be a reliable uh vendor for vehicle maintenance, and uh we chose them because they have a quick lane service that enables our officers to get the vehicles back in service in a timely manner. [2:15:01, 2:15:21]: Manner and to get back out on the streets. We've been working with Legacy Ford since our inception. We've had great success with them. And over the first two years of operation, we did not exceed that threshold that would require us to go out for a competitive bid with this particular vendor. As our fleet is aging in its third year now, we've realized that the vehicle maintenance costs are increasing. [2:15:21, 2:15:41]: And they're expected to double this year from what they have been historically in past years. When we realized that we were trending to go over that$50,000 threshold, we reached out to procurement in May to discuss in RFP or how we would approach this situation to make sure that we're in compliance with the city's current ordinances. [2:15:41, 2:16:01]: Unfortunately, the procurement manager that we're working with is no longer with the city at this point in time. We've since been working with Mr. Malazzi and um his uh team to uh and our procurement attorney, Mr. Berry, um to uh move forward with this emergency exception. Uh as we were waiting for this process to move forward. [2:16:01, 2:16:21]: Um, of course, the vehicles needed to continue to be maintenance. Uh, we couldn't stop that service, and we've since acquired twenty-two thousand nine hundred and fifty-five dollars in invoice over that period of time from May until present, while our vehicles have been maintenance. We anticipate over the next 60 days that we'll spend about$21,000 in vehicle maintenance. We're averaging about$10,500 a month in vehicle maintenance. [2:16:21, 2:16:41]: And so we're asking for uh the council to approve a temporary accession, uh a temporary increase in our spending authority not to exceed$95,000 with legacy Ford. This will allow us to cover the costs and outstanding invoices and uh projected upcoming vehicle maintenance over the next 60 days while we [2:16:41, 2:16:59]: We finalize a competitive RFP process of which we are working with uh procurement. And um Assistant Chief Godfrey has been working directly with him. So if you have any questions specifically related to that uh process, I'm sure that he'd be able to answer those questions. If there's any questions I can answer for you, I certainly stand ready to answer those questions. [2:16:59, 2:17:06]: All right. Go ahead, Mr. Berry. Chief, you said this. This is for uh only for sixty days and up to ninety five thousand. [2:17:06, 2:17:07]: Yes, sir. [2:17:07, 2:17:11]: And then after n after the sixty days you gonna put a competitive [2:17:11, 2:17:25]: We're in the process of doing that now. It's our hope that in the next sixty days that that will be put out and we will be able to identify a permanent solution for a vehicle maintenance provider that has been competitively bid through the city. [2:17:25, 2:17:29]: And Mr. Malazi is uh on board with his recommendation. [2:17:30, 2:17:35]: Um you I don't want to speak for Mr. Melazi, but we've had conversations. [2:17:40, 2:17:41]: Sure. [2:17:42, 2:17:49]: Mr. Malazi, um just wanna follow up, making sure that this is something that you vetted and and approved for us to do. [2:17:49, 2:18:09]: Yeah, we have worked together with that as you know that we are planning to have in house fleet management uh through public works shop that is being built, but that may not be until maybe early next year. Uh but between then and now, between now and then we need to find somewhere. [2:18:09, 2:18:28]: Else we can. And the the threshold is 50,000 for our municipal uh limit, but we don't want to go again above this state limit, which is 100,000. That's why Chief has given uh 95. And the [2:18:28, 2:18:48]: We will have some the sixty days they have talking about we are looking other areas so that we don't max up thirty ninety five. And this is not only for PD, but it will be for citywide vehicles, public works. Yeah, so that it's not public works, it's not for the um administrative, but it will be [2:18:48, 2:18:49]: Citywide. [2:18:50, 2:18:53]: Yes, so this one we have discussed collectively. [2:18:53, 2:18:55]: The same legacy. Yes. [2:18:56, 2:18:56]: Mm-hmm. [2:18:57, 2:18:58]: Any other questions? [2:18:59, 2:19:00]: If you know the question, I need a motion. [2:19:04, 2:19:05]: Therefore. [2:19:05, 2:19:08]: I like to make sure. Your mic's not on, sir, I don't think. [2:19:09, 2:19:29]: Man, for I like to make a motion to um allow the sixty day uh extension as well as the increase in spending to ninety five thousand for not just the P D, but for the entire fleet management uh for the city of Stockbridge for a period of sixty days until it can uh go through the process of competitive bid. [2:19:29, 2:19:33]: Is there a second to motion? Okay, second by Miss Barber. All in favor, please indicate. [2:19:34, 2:19:37]: Okay, z three examined subcision. Thank you very much. [2:19:50, 2:20:01]: Yes, I have the sixty day extension and up to the ninety five thousand dollars. Sixty days and up to ninety five thousand dollars. [2:20:02, 2:20:07]: Oh just the not to exceed. Yes, that's hitting there. Not to exceed. That's part of it. Yes. [2:20:09, 2:20:29]: Announcements and upcoming meetings and events. Uh council meeting will be held in City Council Chamber meeting dates, location times a subject to change, or contact city hall offices at seven seven zero three eight nine seventy nine hundred or visit the website at www.stopbridgega.org for updates. U council meeting is Monday, August fourth at six thirty. [2:20:29, 2:20:49]: P.M. City Hall Levi Room. Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting held or held on the first Thursday of each month in Stockbridge PD Community Room at uh 6:30 p.m. on August 7th. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting will be held on the second Friday of each month at the Downtown Connection Center, 1:30 ML King Senior Heritage. [2:20:49, 2:21:09]: The first Millage Rate public hearing uh previously set for Monday, August fourth, has now been rescheduled for Monday, August eleventh at ten A.M. And a second Millage Rate uh public hearing will take place on um August the uh eleventh at six thirty PM. [2:21:09, 2:21:29]: City Hall Council Chambers. The City Council meeting held held on the second Monday of each month. We'll convene at a special time at 7 p.m. following the Millish rate public hearing in the City Hall Council Chambers on August 11th. Citywide Development Authority meeting are held on the second Tuesday of each month unless otherwise noted, and leave our room at 600. [2:21:29, 2:21:36]: 6 p.m. on August 12th to Community Zoning Information Meeting Wednesday, August 13th, in the City Hall Council Chamber, 6 p.m. [2:21:36, 2:21:56]: The third and final Millage Rate public hearing adoption has been rescheduled to take place on Monday, August 18th at 10 a.m. City Council Chambers. Downtown Development Authority meeting is held on the third Tuesday of each month in the Downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, 6 p.m. on August 19th. U Council advisory [2:21:56, 2:22:16]: Committee meeting will be held on the third Tuesday of each month. City Hall Levi Room at 6:30 p.m. on August 19th. The Planning Commission meeting are held on the third Tuesday, excuse me, the third Thursday of each month at City Hall and the City Council Chairman 6:30, August 21st. City Council work session meeting will be held on the last Tuesday of each month at City Hall and the Council Chamber's [2:22:16, 2:22:34]: on August 26th. Upcoming city events initiatives. Join the Main Street for the Tiny Tent Concert Series Fridays from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Stockbridge Connection Center, 130 ML King uh Senior Heritage Trail. Bring your own lawn chairs and they'll do that compl uh depending on the weather itself. [2:22:35, 2:22:55]: Join Mayor Pro Tem Gantt for a free line dance class on Wednesday, July 30th from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Merle Manders Conference Center. Bring your own fan. Boots on the ground there as well, right? Join Councilman Thomas and Councilman Berry for a partnership for the monthly Bingo Bash on Wednesday, August 20th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon. [2:22:55, 2:22:58]: Tomorrow Manor's Conference Center. Lots of fun to be had by all. [2:23:00, 2:23:20]: Join Mayor Anthony Ford for a monthly meeting the mayor Monday, August 25th from ten A.M. to twelve noon, City Hall. Meetings are by appointment. The Economic Development Department has a ho uh will host a free business health clinic on the second Tuesday of each month from nine A.M. to twelve PM at Stockbridge Connection Center, one thirty ML King Heritage Senior. Excuse me. [2:23:19, 2:23:39]: Senior Heritage Trail. Check your health or in your business with a free clinic. Councilman Thomas is honoring veterans and continues to salute all year long. Please send your pictures in veterans with their name, branch, rank, and years of service. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Try a Stockbridge Initiative Center around education, highlighting causes and effects of littering and illegal. [2:23:39, 2:23:59]: Legal dumping. More information following this as well. Sign up for the real-time alerts from severe weather, road closures, emergencies on a regroup app. Visit the city's website or social media pages for more information on how and where to sign up. Stay safe. Municipal election qualifying takes place Monday, August 18th through Friday. [2:23:59, 2:24:03]: August twenty second, from eight thirty to four thirty PM. [2:24:03, 2:24:23]: eight eight thirty a.m to four thirty P. M. Of course they're closed. The clerk clerk's office is closed from uh noon to one. More information is available on the city clerk's department page and the city's website at Stockbridge GA dot org. Wanna mention to you for the next couple of days, so Wednesday and Thursday, we'll have a Merrill Manors will be a site for a cooling center for individuals that are [2:24:23, 2:24:43]: extremely hot during the course of this uh for the next couple days there. And that's open from 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. And water, ice, and comfortable seats uh will be available for those individuals that need to come to Merrill Manage during the course of the day to get relief from the heat. Please contact Rosen Rawls to schedule the appointment with meet the mayor and more information on the council initiatives. [2:24:43, 2:25:03]: at 678-833-3348 or my way of email ralls at Stockbridge G.org. Twenty to twenty five concert season schedule, Saturday, August 16th, Stockbridge Jazz Festival hosted by Tommy Davison, featuring David Baumet, Jazz Funk Soul, EFX All-Stars, Chandra [2:25:03, 2:25:23]: Curley, Sonny Emory, Norman Brown, Jennifer Holliday, Karen Briggs, Aaron Darius, and Kiko Masui. This is Saturday, August 16th. Um and individuals that signed up originally have for Sunday, August 17th, you'll be notified about this going to one day, and you'll have an opportunity to be reimbursed for [2:25:23, 2:25:31]: For the Sunday concert, andor utilize that payment for the Sunday concert to join it on Saturday, provided seats are available for you. [2:25:32, 2:25:34]: Uh you'll be notified about that. [2:25:34, 2:25:48]: Saturday, August 30, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis celebrating 40 years of iconic music featuring the former Sisbyer Ruben Stutter, Deborah Cox, MC Light, Jordan Knight, Illino Adams, Shantae Moore, Morris Day, and Jerome Benton, Sherrell, and Ann Nesby. [2:25:48, 2:25:54]: Saturday, September thirteenth, for lovers and friends, featuring Tank and special guest Leaf Jennings and Jenny Wine. [2:25:56, 2:26:16]: Uh Saturday, September 6th, and Sunday, September 7th, the Southern Soul weekend featuring King George, Tucker, Wesla, Pokey Bear, TK Soul, Tawan Moore, Antonio Armente, Armoundi, I guess it's pronounced. And Saturday, the uh 20th of September, do the Reggae Tour Tour 2025 featuring Zaggy Marley and Burr. [2:26:16, 2:26:36]: Burning spears. For my initial comments, of course, back to school. School starts here in Henry County in the 34th public schools on the 31st of July, which is in this week. Obviously, in the next couple days will be awfully hot, so make sure if you're outside, drink water, ice, and uh try to keep stay in the shade if you can, if you're outside as best as possible. [2:26:36, 2:26:48]: Everybody be helpful, healthy, I should say. And then uh council, we have a executive session with legal personnel real estate matters as well as cybersecurity issues. I need a motion to go to executive session, please. [2:26:49, 2:26:51]: Dr. Mr. Bar uh Mr. Barring is a second. [2:26:53, 2:26:54]: Is there a second? [2:26:55, 2:26:58]: Okay. Oh miss I'm sorry, Ms. Barmer, second. All in favor, please indicate. [2:27:00, 2:27:02]: Okay, we're going to second session. Thank you. We'll be back, ladies and gentlemen. [2:27:07, 2:27:08]: All right. [2:27:09, 2:27:14]: Council, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. So move. Is there a second? [2:27:14, 2:27:18]: Second okay, so Miss Berry Mr. Berry to Mr. Alexander, all in favor, please indicate. [2:27:20, 2:27:21]: Yeah. [2:27:22, 2:27:25]: No, I'm I'm no I'm not. I'm [2:27:27, 2:27:28]: I don't know what I'm talking about. [2:27:36, 2:27:37]: I well if [2:27:38, 2:27:41]: Meet meeting adjourned. God bless you all. Good night.
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    --- title: Rescheduled Regular Council Meeting date: 2025-07-15 source: 2025-07-15_Rescheduled_Regular_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:03, 0:00:05]: Yes, make a [0:00:15, 0:00:19]: Yeah, we should have a [0:00:22, 0:00:42]: Good. All right. Alright ladies and gentlemen, listen, uh we have a ceremonial part of our meeting. We have ceremonial portion of repopulation to honor individuals or organizations or groups of folks and typically start off 535. But today we'll start at partly five thirty. So have a [0:00:42, 0:01:01]: couple pro one proclamation that issue out to two individuals but a whole list of you all been very helpful in and in uh showing the community how we can come together and to uh search and find a uh an individual or do whatever we need to do and recognize and teamwork um in a sense in the community. So [0:01:02, 0:01:12]: Everybody come on up and join me. Come on, all you all all your public safety individuals, officers, code enforcement folks, come on. Big group party here. [0:01:12, 0:01:13]: All right. [0:01:20, 0:01:28]: And Miss Patel, I want you to come next to me. All right. And Mr. Bell, call me Bell. Is he here? Who? [0:01:29, 0:01:41]: Kwame? Is it is it is it that's Kwame B Bell? Is he no? Uh oh. Okay. There's somebody on the lobbyist. Okay. [0:01:46, 0:01:47]: Mr. Bell. [0:01:49, 0:01:50]: That's not him. [0:01:53, 0:02:10]: All right. Well I I called you all up here so we're gonna matter of fact, uh come on down, come on down s come on down a little bit. Uh you might have to double up, you know, things of this nature. Let's get a couple of lines going. Uh all right. All right. [0:02:12, 0:02:13]: It's a green tie. [0:02:14, 0:02:16]: You may want to double up a little bit. [0:02:17, 0:02:20]: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so kinda double up, couple double up a little bit. [0:02:23, 0:02:24]: Okay. [0:02:26, 0:02:32]: All right. So we I think we're good now? You may want to double up on this side a little bit too as close. Yeah. Come on. [0:02:33, 0:02:51]: Well I'm gonna squeeze you all public, you all work together. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. All right. Now I'm I'm gonna call you Moni. I I I'll probably have a heck of time pronouncing your name. Mona. Mona Mona. Mona. It'll say we'll s we'll stay with Mona, okay? All right. [0:02:51, 0:03:08]: My nickname Mona and my real name is Minakshi and my last name Prat. Right. We'll stay with Mona Patel. Okay. All right. Make it make it easier so I don't chop up your name, right? All right. Ladies and gentlemen I have a proclamation here. Recognizing the teamwork and locating a missing person. [0:03:09, 0:03:20]: uh Rosebell Brown, where a seventy seven year old Rosebell Brown, who suffers from dementia, was reported missing on Thursday, june nineteenth, twenty twenty five, was last seen near Ball Eagle Way. [0:03:21, 0:03:41]: Whereas the Stockbridge community played a significant role in a search with residents providing tips and a search team including the Stockbridge Police, excuse me, Stockbridge Public Works and the uh police department personnel, the Georgia Piedm Region K9 Search and Rescue, Henry County Police, Henry County Fire Rescue, Henry County EMS, EMA. [0:03:41, 0:04:01]: Clayton County Police Department and Henry County Sheriff's Office, and whereas the city of Stockbridge is dedicated to the safety and the well-being of all its residents and the wider Henry County community, and whereas we are thankful for the sharing of information within agency networks, knowing this collaboration greatly increases the chances of locating missing persons. And whereas on Friday, June 20, [0:04:01, 0:04:21]: 2025, thanks to an incredible, tireless team effort, Rosebell Rosebell Brown was found safe after disappearing from a Stockbridge home by nearly 24 hours. Miss Brown was located in a wooded area on Friday afternoon by Stockbridge Public Works employee Monet Patel. Yes. Okay. And was carried out by the woods by safety by [0:04:21, 0:04:38]: newly recruited city of Stockbridge police officer called Mommy Bell. Now therefore I am three as four by virtual authority of SME, mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Yulana, Barber Cowberry, Lakeese Gantt and Afonso Thomas, do hereby recognize the entire team of Stockbridge personnel. [0:04:39, 0:04:43]: and all the Henry County agencies who participated in an effort to search and locate Miss Brown. [0:04:44, 0:05:02]: and show uh showed the community it truly looks like by not giving up. Thank you for your ship swift action and vigilance. Stockbridge is where a community connects. A witness thereof I have here unto set my hand in Great Seal City, Stockbridge, Georgia, on the fifteenth day of July, year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty five. And I signed a proclamation along with our [0:05:03, 0:05:11]: Clerk Vanessa Holiday, and I want to uh issue this to you, Mona Patel. Okay, the actual proclamation itself, all right? [0:05:18, 0:05:38]: Now what I what I like to do, even though you get the proclamation, you're in this you're in this proclamation, right? But I have a list of other individuals that are probably right behind us, right, that helped out. So the Public Works Department personnel who participated. Jason Jackson, uh, which is a crew lead, uh James uh Jennings, Khaleb Dobson, and [0:05:38, 0:05:51]: And Najor Jones, if I got that pronounced right. And for the police department personnel who participated, of course our Chief Frank Tramer, Assistant Chief uh Richard Goffrey, who was here, uh Captain Jimmy Keys, Lieutenant Derek Ezer. [0:05:51, 0:06:11]: Corporal Eric Canton, Senior Detective Miss Rogers, Senior Officer Willie Hornerack, Hornerack, I guess it is, Officer First Class, Dave Dale Levinsky, Sergeant Rico Jordan, Senior Officer Johan Dillis, Staff Sergeant Jeffrey Neal, First Officer [0:06:11, 0:06:19]: Officer class uh Kelly Fur uh Fagelin. Uh please recruit uh uh was Lou Benz Archie. [0:06:20, 0:06:27]: Okay, please recruit uh Andrew Montgomery and then uh please recruit Kamani Kamani Bell, who will get this other proclamation as well. [0:06:28, 0:06:31]: Please recruit Arthur Ellis. Please recruit Miles Cahun. [0:06:32, 0:06:34]: Please recruit uh Russia Little the Third. [0:06:35, 0:06:55]: Uh public safety officer Colleen uh Rogers, Corporal King uh Ken Cole, Corporal Uh James Johnson, Sergeant Shane uh Rackland, uh police recruit uh Raheem Ferguson, uh executive assistant uh Nikila Hines Wilson, and accountant uh Melia Andrews Campbell, Fox. [0:06:54, 0:07:04]: Thank you all. Sorry if I mispronounce your names. Please forgive me, okay? But uh congratulations to all you all helping out in this whole process, okay? Thank you. [0:07:06, 0:07:06]: No. [0:07:07, 0:07:15]: What what happens next is that whenever we give out a city proclamation, whoever gets a proclamation has the floor. So do you have any comments? The floor is yours. [0:07:15, 0:07:16]: Do one thing to say. [0:07:17, 0:07:31]: I'm very happy for work with uh city of Stadbridge and when I when we found uh m Miss uh Roseberr Brown and then we are very proud of because she is a [0:07:31, 0:07:36]: And uh in the morning early, she not drinking water, nothing so critical, missing. [0:07:37, 0:07:57]: So she's now feeling better and she's very very well. So I'm very happy for Good job, appreciate it. Thank you very much for your comments. And we all the time for we when we have any kind opportunity for any missing person, so we are ready. Absolutely, absolutely. Now [0:07:57, 0:08:07]: for you all that are here part of you of us also support aspect so we have time anybody else uh have any other comments or things they want to say encouragement but of the teamwork [0:08:07, 0:08:27]: Sister Chief, you got anything you need to say, sir, since the actual chief is not here, and the floor is yours, sir. Well, Mayor, thank you so much for recognizing the hard work of all of the men and women, not only in the city, but the county and our adjoining partners like Clayton County as well. Um everybody's unwavering commitment is to be commended. Uh Georgia P. [0:08:27, 0:08:47]: Piedmont came out and conducted an exhaustive search the night before. You know, and the harsh reality is this: we cannot do this alone. And it takes all of our partners in the county, the sheriff's department, the police department, EMA, the fire department, our joining agents. [0:08:47, 0:09:07]: Especially the aviation units, all working hand in hand to be able to work an operation like this because even though we have our own police department here on the Stockbridge, we don't have the resources that some of these other agencies do. So it's it's encouraging and I'm very honored and proud of everybody here. [0:09:07, 0:09:27]: year that went out that day, dedicated their time. We had people that came in from their day off, uh came in and participated in that search. Um, you know, public works personnel that came out. Uh it was just an amazing uh sight to see that everybody came together uh to find this um elderly person and luckily [0:09:27, 0:09:36]: Miss Brown was found. She is safe at home. And everybody here is to be praised for that. Absolutely. Thank you, sir. [0:09:39, 0:09:53]: I just wanted to know I just wanted to note that the fire department had thirty eight recruits that came out and I'm represented here. So I just wanted to make sure you knew that they were actually on the team that found the link. Okay, I'll outstand it. Appreciate that. Thank you very much. [0:09:57, 0:10:17]: Anybody else? Any other comments, words of wisdom, grabulation, one Henry, with Clayton's who's played county? There we go. Thank you, sir. Uh sister county to to our west. Thank you for being with us, sir. Uh yes, ma'am. I was just gonna mention uh kudos. [0:10:17, 0:10:28]: I think to all of you, but you do. But I would say the public information officer for the city, our community members by the thousands shared in and went out throughout the state. So who knows all of our community members who are state? [0:10:28, 0:10:31]: Uh absolutely absolutely. [0:10:35, 0:10:36]: Any anybody else? [0:10:37, 0:10:57]: I will continue to do great work folks, right? And and continue to work together. I know we will do that to keep our citizens protected and serve them. And I have to tell you, as in a proclamation, we have to tell you that Stockbridge is where community connects. Alright? Big group photo. Okay, so let's uh put this down to you. [0:10:57, 0:10:59]: Take it for a second. [0:12:06, 0:12:10]: Please stand for the invocation if you can. Mr. Jerry May, sir, please. [0:12:18, 0:12:23]: Make make sure the mic's on. It's put put the green button. It's good? Okay, thank you. [0:12:24, 0:12:24]: That's right. [0:12:25, 0:12:33]: Father God, in the name of Jesus, first we want to say thank you, Lord. Thank you for allowing us to come together today for a great celebration. [0:12:34, 0:12:54]: Let this be a turning point for the city of Stockbridge, oh Lord. And Father God, we pray for the leaders here in the city of Stockbridge. We pray for the citizens. We pray for all that's involved that will benefit from what is about to take place tonight. Father God, we know that it's you that's in control and that will give us the strength. [0:12:54, 0:13:14]: to move forward and we say thank you. And for every more of God, we want to say thank you. And it's in your Son, Jesus' name, we pray and give thanks. Amen. Amen. Pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag. Of the United States of America and to the Republic, where we stand one nation under God, indivisible. [0:13:13, 0:13:16]: the liberty and just as for all. [0:13:16, 0:13:18]: Madam Clerk Ruko, please. [0:13:23, 0:13:30]: Mayor Ford? Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Present. Councilmember Thomas. [0:13:34, 0:13:50]: So he asked to be online. I don't know if IT has set him up. Well I think Demetrius is gonna call him. All right. Councilmember Berry. Let the record reflect Council Member Berry is not in attendance. Councilmember Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. [0:13:50, 0:13:52]: Present. [0:13:52, 0:13:58]: Uh thank you, Madam Clerk, appreciate that. So for clarification, is Mr. Thomas gonna speaking or is he just online? [0:13:59, 0:14:01]: He's he's not online right now that I know of. [0:14:03, 0:14:07]: So I'm sorry, is is he uh I'm sorry, is it gonna be online? That would be awesome. [0:14:12, 0:14:13]: Okay, so he's calling in. [0:14:21, 0:14:40]: We we we got a quorum, so we gotta we gotta we gotta I just wanna make I just wanna make sure he's uh uh what whatever needs to be done if he's able to participate that they're doing that. Right. They're doing all right. Uh let's see here. Uh uh public hearing notice. Um let's do the I need an amendment to to the agenda, please. Ms. Cant. [0:14:40, 0:14:51]: Yes, Mayor, I would like to amend the agenda for the following items that will not be heard in the calendars this evening to per be removed. Item number four, appeal case number AP-2. [0:14:52, 0:14:54]: Твоє тварин файдаш о вон. [0:14:55, 0:15:00]: Item number seven, annexation case number AX dash twenty twenty-five dash oh one. [0:15:01, 0:15:03]: Item number eight, com [0:15:04, 0:15:07]: Plan amendment case number C P [0:15:07, 0:15:10]: Dash twenty twenty five dash oh one [0:15:10, 0:15:13]: Item number nine, rezoning case number four. [0:15:13, 0:15:16]: R Z dash twenty twenty five dash o one. [0:15:17, 0:15:34]: And the following items also will not be heard this evening and have withdrawn by applicant. Mayor, we have some confusion. The applicant is actually here. It's i well it says here. I know the staff has been talking to the applicant and the applicant wants to move forward. [0:15:34, 0:15:42]: Well, let me keep going. Item number five, comp plan amendment case number CP dash twenty twenty-five-o two. [0:15:42, 0:15:49]: Item number six, rezoning case number RZ dash twenty twenty-five dash zero three. [0:15:50, 0:15:56]: Okay, so point a point of clarification. You submitted these, Mr Mr. Anderson, uh please. [0:15:57, 0:16:11]: So all these that were read uh they're by the applicant's request uh to be heard at a fur future date, such as August or November timeframe. Is that not the case or what are we doing here? Yes, that was the case until um today the applicant stated that they wish to move forward. [0:16:12, 0:16:23]: All right, and then which which ones are you referring to now? Uh the annexation, the comp plan and the rezoning. So you're talking about items seven, eight, and nine is my assumption. Yes, sir. [0:16:25, 0:16:27]: Which one I need agenda. I don't have a gender with you. [0:16:27, 0:16:28]: Which one? [0:16:29, 0:16:30]: Well [0:16:31, 0:16:36]: Yeah. Seven is an annexation case. A S Correct, that's one. [0:16:36, 0:16:41]: Okay, and an eight is a is a comp plan amend uh comp plan amendment case. [0:16:44, 0:16:48]: And they're they're I'm pretty sure they're related to one another since they're right behind each other. [0:16:48, 0:16:56]: Yes, sir. Um they're not officially removed until um I mean, I know you know mayor, until council agrees to take'em off, so [0:16:56, 0:16:58]: Well I I I got that, but uh [0:17:00, 0:17:11]: Okay. And the rezoning case is number number nine is what it's have here. And that also, uh these are all in District Five. Yes, sir. [0:17:11, 0:17:12]: Okay. [0:17:14, 0:17:15]: All right. [0:17:19, 0:17:21]: Well, um okay. [0:17:22, 0:17:24]: There wasn't a second to the motion. [0:17:25, 0:17:25]: Okay. [0:17:26, 0:17:46]: So if that's the case, if it was no second, I mean I I can go through the second and we can but but we it's no second. So it's no second. So how about this? If we're gonna do seven, eight, and nine, we'll go ahead and uh if you I hate to put you through this again, okay? Okay it'd be number four, four, five, four, five, and six. Unless something pops up, Mr. [0:17:46, 0:17:50]: [1073.0, 1079.2]: Yes, sir. Okay. Um is there any way you can one second, please. All right. Go ahead, sir. [0:17:59, 0:18:14]: I was gonna ask could you uh push push'em change the order because we we don't have our presentation because we were under the impression that this was gonna be deferred. So staff is going to retrieve the retrieve our presentation to put it to put so we can present tonight. [0:18:15, 0:18:19]: Well okay. Uh da da da da we can we don't have well [0:18:20, 0:18:28]: The number can stay the same. With if you have to go get a pr if we prove this and you have to go get the presentation, we'll add it we'll go back if you need be. We'll just go back if that's the case. One second, please, Miss Barber. [0:18:30, 0:18:31]: That's one we can't turn. [0:18:31, 0:18:32]: Clarify how we close. [0:18:33, 0:18:37]: Well we actually're gonna go through it again. Yes, she'll clarify it. [0:18:39, 0:18:39]: Go ahead, please. [0:18:40, 0:19:00]: Well, you're saying we're gonna push it back, so we're gonna r we're gonna m move forward with taking off item four, five, and six. Four, five, and six. Four, five, and six, unless something happens here that this is not gonna it's gonna be heard tonight, but I but in four, five and six. So if you go ahead and go through four, five and six and then the re the uh uh seven, eight, nine will remain and we'll get we'll get to that but if we [0:19:00, 0:19:08]: Is someone going your team is already going to get the party, sir? Yes, sir. So I I request that we do number uh ten first. [0:19:08, 0:19:09]: Please. [0:19:11, 0:19:20]: All right, we we can do we all right. So one second here. One second here. So we got the Kazanatena, we got an appointment here. All right. [0:19:22, 0:19:22]: Four [0:19:25, 0:19:45]: All right. Well we'll we'll we can uh I appreciate that. We c we can do that. If that's the case, we can we can do we can when it comes to public hearing, uh we can go to ten in the public hearing first if your people aren't here to do the presentation. We'll back up. Yes, sir. So we need to take off four, five, and six, Ms. Gann, if you don't mind. Okay. Um Mayor Ford, I would like to make a [0:19:44, 0:19:50]: motion that we remove item number four, five, and six that are located on the agenda. [0:19:50, 0:20:10]: Is there a second emotion? Sir. Um all in favor, please indicate. Okay. Uh mayor, clarification for that. The number four is to a future date, but number five and six has been withdrawn by the applicant. Just want to state that for the record. Yeah, well, five and six have that right. Right. They've been withdrawn. Thank you. That is true. Appreciate it. [0:20:10, 0:20:30]: Okay. Now I need a motion to accept the rest of the agenda, please. So moved. Is there a second? Case unanimous decision on that. Okay. Um, ladies and gentlemen, through our ceremonial uh part of our agenda this evening, which is at five thirty, um we uh gave a proclamation [0:20:29, 0:20:49]: to s to several individuals, two individuals actually, and but we had a collaboration of a lot of different public service individuals that were here. And this deals with the uh older lady named Rose Rosebelle Brown, a seventy-seven year old lady that was uh uh displaced, it was lost, you know. [0:20:49, 0:21:09]: or an and actually was in the community and got misoriented. So what it amounts to, the proclamation actually congratulates the overall community effort um of the Stockbridge Police Department, our Public Works Department, Henry County Fire Department, Henry County Sheriff, and the Clayton County Police, along with [0:21:09, 0:21:20]: But um of course through uh social media citizens in the in the community communicating with one another about the potential whereabouts of this elderly uh lady. [0:21:20, 0:21:25]: which was found within a twenty four hour period safe and sound and back home. [0:21:25, 0:21:45]: Uh so I wanted to acknowledge that. We double had in a proclamation earlier but wanna acknowledge that and thank um uh primarily uh Moni Patel, which is a member of our public works department, and Stockbridge police officer uh Kamani Bell. And uh Ms. Patel was the one actual individual that um found her and then Mr. Bell uh [0:21:45, 0:22:05]: Our police recruit actually carried her out of the woods. So it's gonna conjord into uh uh actual collaboration with many different agencies. We want to knowledge and thank all those agencies for working together to save this lady. And um so that was the only recognition we had on that aspect. Um Madam Clerk, we have any public comments, please. [0:22:10, 0:22:30]: Mr. Turner, two five four, warblerway, Stockbridge. This is business, not personal. I'm calling for the mayor, District One, District Three, District Four, and District Five, and the City Attorney to resign. There is a financial crisis. It has recently come to the attention of the Stockbridge City taxpayer that almost thirty three million dollars is missing from the twenty twenty five. [0:22:30, 0:22:50]: Budget, which was already approved in the winter of 2024. This has caused the city council to vote for a budget resolution amount of$32.5 million to reconcile the 2024 budget, raising the 2024 budget from$42.7 million to$76.6 million in one year. The citizens have not been informed. [0:22:50, 0:23:10]: Of how this money just simply disappeared. Only the city manager, mayor, council members, and city attorney are directly responsible how taxpayer dollars are allocated and release the funds. Where did thirty two point five million dollars come from to reconcile the twenty twenty-four budget? Did it come from the twenty twenty-five budget or our savings account? If it came from the twenty twenty-bit. [0:23:10, 0:23:30]: 2025 budget, that would mean that there is only eleven million dollars left in the approved twenty twenty-five budget if the funds came from there. With millions of dollars being misplaced for the twenty twenty-four budget, it only makes sense to have a forensic audit done from the year 2018 to present. Millions of dollars is missing. Millions of dollars have been moved from the [0:23:30, 0:23:50]: From the citywide authority, explosive counts, and other departments. Millions. How can we expect to hire a new city manager whose sole responsibility is to make sure the city doesn't go bankrupt and give him a precise number to work with? The only way to ensure the new city manager's success is to have an outside forensic audit of the city of Stockbridge and the amphitheater prior to the [0:23:50, 0:24:10]: Construction of the amphitheater to get a true number of where the city stood and stands financially before the construction of the amphitheater. If the council only answers right now is I don't know, please know this. The numbers don't lie. Millions of dollars is unaccounted for. A forensic audit is the only way to find these missing tax dollars. And the twenty twenty-four budget had to be a good thing. [0:24:10, 0:24:30]: amended, then it will only be true that the previous years need to be amended as well. Either make the right call for your taxpaying citizens now when it pertains to the numbers the city treasurer mister Malazi has presented you with, which was facts, or please resign for the sake of the city. There's no business or corporation in this world where millions of dollars can go unaccounted for and I don't know be your answer. [0:24:30, 0:24:50]: Sir, you took millions of dollars from the citywide project, so what projects were affected? You are taking money from the city savings account to fund concerts and free events. What amount is in the city's savings accounts right now? Thirty-three million dollars could have paid for a community recreation center. What do free events cost the city? What other city departments? [0:24:50, 0:25:03]: went over budget. And why are we st why is the amphitheater still opening and what vendors are still operating? Again,$33 million is unaccounted for and you guys have an I don't know answer. [0:25:03, 0:25:16]: That's not professional and that's not leadership. So I'm gonna ask you, Mr. Mayor, Miss Gantt, Mr. Alexander, Mr. Thomas to all resign. Thank you. Thank you. Let me uh [0:25:17, 0:25:37]: Slipped my mind here, but let's do this just in case, put this back on record as well. Public comments. All person wishing to speak for public comments must sign in with the city clerk prior to beginning of the meeting. You must sign your name, address, and phone number. Be able to address the mayor and council for three minutes. Speakers must respect all members of the elected body officials and staff. Defamation, unruliness, and or swearing will not be tolerated. [0:25:37, 0:25:42]: while meetings are in session. They need to re put that in the record as well. Who's next, uh Miss uh Holliday? [0:25:44, 0:25:45]: Okay. [0:25:52, 0:25:53]: Name and address, please. [0:26:00, 0:26:06]: My name is Mary and D. Calhoun and I live at six oh eight Creek Stone Court in Jonesboro, Georgia. [0:26:07, 0:26:27]: And I come before this board today for several reasons. My first reason is one member of this council needs to be seriously censored or asked to resign for posting lewd and lascivious material in social media in reference to Pornhub. [0:26:27, 0:26:31]: was conduct unbecoming an elected official. [0:26:32, 0:26:40]: In two days I will be sixty four years old, and I have never seen a council act in that manner. [0:26:41, 0:26:42]: Number two. [0:26:44, 0:26:50]: It is not fair for you all to have free concerts and make the [0:26:50, 0:26:54]: Make the tickets free for folks not living in Stockbridge. [0:26:55, 0:27:15]: Who do not pay taxes while the taxpayers themselves were denied. I believe this is very criminal and it was very unfair to watch taxpayers sit outside to watch fireworks in a free concert while people from other cities come in to take advantage of what [0:27:15, 0:27:16]: What they paid for. [0:27:17, 0:27:18]: Number three. [0:27:19, 0:27:25]: I do not think it is fair f that one of the council members currently running for office in District One [0:27:26, 0:27:29]: be allowed to use the Merrill Mandar Center. [0:27:29, 0:27:35]: in line for line dances just to gather folks' names and addresses for her campaign. [0:27:36, 0:27:40]: I hope she has paid for this use of the facility. [0:27:40, 0:27:52]: And I also wants to know from this same council to explain why Harold Young bought two hundred and forty-five dollars worth of ice cream from her shop in Hampton. [0:27:52, 0:28:00]: off of the taxpayers. This is asinine, and the people deserve better. Thank you. [0:28:01, 0:28:04]: Okay. Who's next? Um Ms. Oliver. [0:28:05, 0:28:08]: Ms. Johnson. [0:28:11, 0:28:12]: Ms. Johnson. [0:28:12, 0:28:32]: Mayor, point of order. Point of order. Okay. It is it is the rules as you have written them that the the speakers are to address the chair. That's true. That is true. Not address anybody up here, but to address the chair and specific items. We need to make sure that we adhere to that. The we're not here for personal attacks. And [0:28:32, 0:28:36]: to single out individual council members and that's what's happened here. [0:28:37, 0:28:41]: Well noted. Name stu hey hold on. Name and address please, ma'am. [0:28:42, 0:28:44]: My name is Jernita Johnson. [0:28:46, 0:28:48]: I live at eleven oh nine Bailey's Court. [0:28:49, 0:29:09]: Good evening, Mayor Ford and Council. My name is Jernita Johnson and I've proudly called Stockbridge home for sixteen years. I'm here tonight as a concerned neighbor who deeply believes in the future of Stockbridge, and it's our responsibility to make that future work for all of us. [0:29:10, 0:29:27]: While there's much to be proud of, are growing businesses, new developments, and expanding population, there are ongoing concerns that residents bring up over and over again. Concerns that deserve consistent attention. [0:29:28, 0:29:36]: As someone who listens to my neighbors daily, I want to speak directly to those issues that affect our daily lives. [0:29:37, 0:29:57]: First, the frequency of power outages in District One, especially during storms or even clear days, has become frustrating and unsafe. Whether it's our seniors relying on medical equipment, parents managing households, our local business. [0:29:57, 0:30:04]: Businesses trying to operate, this is an infrastructure issue we can't no longer afford to ignore. [0:30:05, 0:30:20]: Second, we still don't have a dedicated youth recreation center. Our kids and teens need a safe, positive place to go after school and during summer. If we want to shape the future of this city, we must invest in its youth. [0:30:21, 0:30:41]: And here's the bigger question on many residents' minds. Where's the thirty-two million? That's public money. That's taxpayer money. And as of today, the public still doesn't have a clear answer. How does a city misplace and mismanage that kind of funding with no accountability? [0:30:41, 0:30:47]: Transparency shouldn't be a request. It should be the standard. [0:30:48, 0:30:55]: Many of us feel it's time for a change, not just in policies, but in leadership. [0:30:56, 0:31:16]: Fresh leadership can bring new energy, clear communication, strong accountability to the decisions that impact our daily lives. I'm not here to criticize, but to challenge us to think boldly, lead responsibly, and serve our residents with purpose. I love this situation. [0:31:16, 0:31:23]: And I believe it's time we rise together with leadership that reflects the people, not just the politics. [0:31:24, 0:31:30]: We can do better for every street, every neighbor, and every voice in Stockbridge. Thank you. Thank you. [0:31:32, 0:31:34]: Okay. Uh [0:31:34, 0:31:51]: If i this this is something that um is unusual, but certainly I I I've heard this misnomer entail repeatedly because sometimes if you repeat the same information over and over again, a lie becomes the truth. [0:31:52, 0:32:12]: Like thirty-two million dollars is missing. That is oh that is not true under any circumstances at all. And the public needs to hear that. That is untrue. There's no no factual powers behind that. And folks need to hear that because people can come up to this microphone and say what they want to say, but that is totally untrue. [0:32:12, 0:32:17]: Every ask. We'll be able to we'll be able to deal with that and answer that in in a better better another time. Thank you. [0:32:18, 0:32:38]: You are right right now? I am. I just it you know, I want to bring it to the point that everyone has a right to make their public statements. It's election season, and the people that came up to make a statement are running for election. Specifically my seat. And I I just think that, you know, we need to be a little bit more. [0:32:38, 0:32:58]: mindful of the platform of our public comments when we're here and what we're focusing on. And so it is um imperative and and we hear you, we respect everyone's opinion, but w you know, there is a difference. It it's campaign season, so you're you're gonna get that right now. All right. [0:32:58, 0:33:13]: Now that I've done that, did you have any comments you want to make at all? Okay. All right, we'll move on. Um what we have here is adoption of the minutes, adoption of the council meeting on on June 9th and the work session June twenty fifth and our spe uh council meeting on the [0:33:14, 0:33:18]: Uh July first and need second to adopt those into the uh Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. [0:33:18, 0:33:20]: Um I actually [0:33:20, 0:33:21]: Requested. [0:33:21, 0:33:22]: Um [0:33:22, 0:33:26]: An amendment to the June ninth meeting. Minutes [0:33:27, 0:33:47]: I uh on page one, I sent it to the clerk, but in the printed copy that we have in our book, it doesn't reflect the change. But okay, so I'll send you a copy of the corrected one. That was your question. Should I make make a motion? Should I make note of what that change was? Well, yeah, if she has that, uh [0:33:47, 0:33:54]: Uh yeah, she has that she'll make she'll make the change if you wanna she has a change. If you wanna put it publicly, I guess she has a change if you wanna say it publicly in the [0:33:54, 0:34:00]: Okay. And this is just for the June ninth meeting minutes. Um [0:34:01, 0:34:20]: During the motion that I made uh to amend the agenda to add term limits, I was speaking specifically about council term limits, but looking at the meeting minutes, it only shows term limits. Okay. So I asked her to include council term limits, okay. Just to be more specific. [0:34:20, 0:34:30]: So should I just make a motion? Okay, I'd like to make a motion with that amendment to our city council meeting minutes from June ninth. [0:34:31, 0:34:37]: And with the other minutes as well, we want to approve all the other minutes as well. The twenty fifth and the in the first minutes. [0:34:38, 0:34:39]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:34:40, 0:35:00]: Clarity mayor, I want to make sure that everybody understands this is a this is changing the minutes. This is not authorizing any type of term limits. No, no, it's just changing the minutes. Right. Just make sure that's the case. What is written? Second. Okay. On fair please indicate. Okay, now it's decision there. All right. So what we have before us is a little joyous moment of all this, right? [0:35:00, 0:35:10]: We have before us the appointment and confirmation of our sole finalist for city manager, who's present with his family here, Mr. Sean Edmondson. [0:35:11, 0:35:13]: Thank you, sir, and congratulations to you. Okay. [0:35:14, 0:35:14]: So [0:35:15, 0:35:28]: I need a motion to uh effectively uh have him as our next city manager. Mayor. Yes, sir. I'd like to nominate Shantez Edmondson as the new city manager of the city of Stockbridge. I second that. [0:35:29, 0:35:30]: On fair present okay. [0:35:30, 0:35:32]: Well, congratulations, sir. [0:35:37, 0:35:49]: Now, just just just like when we do proclamations, the floor is yours. All right? And what's gonna happen is you're gonna get used to coming to that mic. No pressure. [0:35:52, 0:35:59]: Uh good evening, Mayor Ford, members of the City Council, residents of Stockbridge, and the dedicated city staff. [0:36:00, 0:36:02]: Tonight I stand before you deeply honored. [0:36:03, 0:36:10]: And Humboldt to be appointed as the next city manager of Stockbridge, a city full of pride, potential, and purpose. [0:36:10, 0:36:15]: First and first I would like to express my sincere gratitude to Mayor Ford and the members of this council [0:36:16, 0:36:17]: For your confidence in me. [0:36:17, 0:36:19]: Your trust is not taken for granted. [0:36:20, 0:36:29]: And I commit myself to honor it through tireless service, clear communication, and leadership style rooted in accountability, collaboration and results. [0:36:30, 0:36:36]: I'll also be remiss if I did not pause to thank the most important pillars of my life, my family. [0:36:36, 0:36:42]: To my family, thank you for your unwavering support, your sacrifices, and your belief in my calling to serve. [0:36:42, 0:36:45]: You are the reason I scribe to be better every single day. [0:36:45, 0:36:48]: And I carry your script with me into this new chapter. [0:36:48, 0:36:52]: Stepping into this role, I recognise that leadership is not always comfortable. [0:36:53, 0:36:55]: Especially during seasons of change. [0:36:56, 0:36:57]: Change brings questions. [0:36:57, 0:36:58]: It scratches us. [0:36:59, 0:37:03]: It chall it challenges habits and demands clarity of purpose. [0:37:03, 0:37:09]: But it also brings with it the chance to grow, to rise, and to do things better than we ever have done before. [0:37:10, 0:37:11]: Let me share a quick story. [0:37:12, 0:37:19]: Years ago while serving in the military, I was stationed in a place where the terrain was rough, the mission was unclear, and the morale was low. [0:37:19, 0:37:23]: One day I walked past a soldier struggling to fix a piece of equipment in the heat. [0:37:24, 0:37:26]: I asked, do you need help? [0:37:26, 0:37:27]: He said, No, sergeant. [0:37:28, 0:37:30]: I just need to figure out a better way to make this work. [0:37:32, 0:37:34]: That moment stuck with me. [0:37:34, 0:37:41]: Because of the heart, that's the heart of leadership. Not running from a challenge, not giving up when the solution isn't always obvious. [0:37:41, 0:37:46]: But having the courage and creativity to say there's got to be a better way. [0:37:46, 0:37:48]: And I'm willing to find it. [0:37:49, 0:37:51]: That is what I see here in Stockbridge. [0:37:52, 0:37:54]: We are not a city content with just getting by. [0:37:55, 0:37:59]: We are a city ready to thrive to challenge the old norms. [0:37:59, 0:38:05]: Push forward bold ideas and ensure that our government truly works for the people it serves. [0:38:05, 0:38:08]: As your city manager, I pledge to lead with vision. [0:38:09, 0:38:10]: And transparency. [0:38:10, 0:38:13]: Strengthen operational excellence and financial stewardship. [0:38:14, 0:38:17]: prioritize smart growth and economic development that benefits all. [0:38:18, 0:38:28]: and build a culture where staff are empowered and residents are engaged. But none of this would be done in isolation. Progress comes when all lock arms. Mayor, [0:38:28, 0:38:34]: Council, staff, residents, business owners, and we move in the same direction. [0:38:34, 0:38:40]: Let's walk all together in this new chapter of Stockbridge, not just with plans and policies. [0:38:40, 0:38:47]: But with purpose, passion, and unity. Thank you for this incredible opportunity. I'm ready to serve. Let's get to work. [0:38:54, 0:39:04]: And to let uh the the public know that uh once we appoint him, he's appointed now, but he actually won't start have his first day on the job until Monday, August fourth. He's got uh [0:39:05, 0:39:18]: And it's some time I guess away uh from the job and tighten up some loose ends on the previous job, I guess it is, and spend some time with the family. But um Monday, the August fourth will be his first day on the job, but he will do some transition with us during the course of the next couple weeks or so. [0:39:20, 0:39:33]: So thank you. Mayor? Yes sir. Good good point. Uh yeah, sure. Let's do that. We'll come on. We'll come on down here and do that. Absolutely. [0:39:35, 0:39:37]: Um yes. [0:39:41, 0:39:43]: She can be able to have this. [0:39:57, 0:39:58]: So [0:40:04, 0:40:07]: I still get it [0:40:13, 0:40:14]: [2417.9, 2420.0]: I'm not getting back in the world. [0:40:21, 0:40:24]: [2425.0, 2430.7]: Uh name you write your account. [0:40:32, 0:40:33]: Yeah. [0:40:42, 0:40:50]: Okay. [0:40:51, 0:40:52]: So [0:40:53, 0:40:58]: Okay, what we have next is our consent agenda. [0:41:00, 0:41:03]: And so what this is it deals with uh [0:41:04, 0:41:18]: Resolution to approve the twenty twenty five Notice of Election and Qualifying Fees. Resolution to approve the twenty twenty five Georgia Secretary of State elections. It's on the consent agenda. Uh uh ms uh miss finesse holiday, did you need any clarification of this at all? [0:41:19, 0:41:23]: Mayor, these are two things that we cannot change and I just ask for your approval. [0:41:23, 0:41:28]: Okay. Uh council I need a motion to approve this on the consent agenda, so [0:41:29, 0:41:49]: Consent agenda. So moved. Is there a second? I'm sorry. Consent agenda resolution on a 2025 notice for election and qualifying fees and a resolution to approve the 2025 Georgia Secretary of State Elections calendar. All right, then what it what uh the motion for. What yeah, what the clerk mentioned is that this is uh this is uh right [0:41:49, 0:42:00]: So I just wanted Miss uh Barber made a second. She made a motion. Miss Can't second that. So all in favor, please indicate. [0:42:02, 0:42:06]: All right, just unanimous how you don't serve. Is your hand is your hand up for no idea? [0:42:07, 0:42:10]: It's dealing with the uh a consent of gender actually is what it is. [0:42:10, 0:42:16]: Okay. Now it's decision. All all four individuals. All right. Thank you. We'll move on now. [0:42:17, 0:42:22]: What I have for let's see here, uh next would be a a um public hearing. [0:42:24, 0:42:26]: All right, so let me yes, sir. [0:42:28, 0:42:35]: Uh let's do the let's do the forty two one first. Okay. What what which [0:42:37, 0:42:40]: We have here w wait a minute now, so you got uh [0:42:41, 0:42:41]: Seven [0:42:42, 0:42:45]: Eight and nine we're going to do today. [0:42:45, 0:42:46]: Correct? [0:42:46, 0:42:48]: Yes, sir. Okay. So [0:42:48, 0:42:59]: So f okay, so four, five, and six are off. So we'll jump all the way if we go in order we jump all the way to number seven. Is that what you're gonna do now? Yes, sir, but um we we should go with number ten first. [0:43:00, 0:43:12]: But that's also zoning modification. Okay, so this is okay. You need to do that now based on some information you gotta get together, I guess. Yes, sir. All right. So but it's a public hearing, so I need to read the public hearing's rules. Okay. [0:43:14, 0:43:34]: All right. Public hearing rules. Please mute all cell phones on electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant or the representative regarding the proposed plans for properly along [0:43:34, 0:43:54]: with or any other revelant any other relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. Each side will be allotted 10 minutes total. Additional time may be extended at the discretion of the council. Please keep comments, presentation, professional [0:43:54, 0:44:05]: referring only to the facts and are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments or personal attacks towards any individual group. Please refrain from the applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. [0:44:05, 0:44:18]: After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer, and never to members of the council, staff, or audience. All comments will be made from the podium, where you'll be required to state your name and address for the record. [0:44:19, 0:44:39]: Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and abilities by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person shall speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal, may speak next and last, and may use the entire ten minutes allowed. [0:44:39, 0:44:46]: Allowed for the pro side of the application. If questions are raised, counsel may be asked the applicant to address the questions andor concerns. [0:44:46, 0:44:50]: Presiding officer will call for a motion. This m second to the motion. [0:44:50, 0:44:52]: Have any necessary discussion? [0:44:52, 0:44:59]: If the matter is not tabled, presiding officer will count count to vote of the recommended approval or denial for the request. And we're now [0:45:00, 0:45:20]: Discussing as talk about number 10 zoning modification case. ZEM 2025-01 Council District 5. Consideration of the request of a major zoning modification of parcel 070-0101. [0:45:20, 0:45:40]: At the southeast corner of Highway 42, north of Antunus Road, to provide for the modifications of the zoning conditions comprising of the department agreement for rezoning case RZ-03-45-S. Purpose to allow for development of a single-family detached residential subdivision. Property owner Henry High. [0:45:39, 0:45:59]: Highway 42 LLC, applicant Shaker ready. The property is located in landlocks 31 and 32 of District 7 and contains 27.72 acres. Mr. Anderson, please. Good evening. Mayor, I'd like to uh before I begin, um to emphasize that this is not a rezoning. The zoning is currently in place. [0:45:59, 0:46:08]: uh for this project and the the developer just wants to make changes to the um agreed upon the existing uh approved development plan. [0:46:09, 0:46:10]: Okay. [0:46:16, 0:46:36]: The applicant is uh Shaker Reddy. Uh the agent is Brian Mashburn. Uh address of the property. The property is located at the southwest corner of Highway 42, North and Tunis Road. It contains 27.72 acres. The current use of the property is vacant and undeveloped, but the layout of the approved subdivision is still visible through existing clean. [0:46:36, 0:46:50]: Clearings. The site is also heavily wooded and crossed by Wolf Creek with two existing access points from highway, from US Highway 23. The current zoning of the property is suburban residential. [0:46:50, 0:47:10]: The current future land use designation of the property is low density mixed use. The proposed number of units per acre is 2.12 units per acre. We posted the sign on June 4, 2025. Here's an aerial photo of the property. The area highlighted in yellow with the red stripes is actually. [0:47:10, 0:47:16]: The site. It's near the Eagles Landing First Baptist Church and Eagles Landing Christian Academy. [0:47:18, 0:47:21]: A close up area photo of the layout. [0:47:26, 0:47:30]: Here's the flood map showing how Wolf Creek traverses the property. [0:47:32, 0:47:41]: Here's the existing road from staff visit, the existing road that was done when our development was first approved. [0:47:43, 0:47:46]: Here's proof of the sign posting on June fourth, as I previously mentioned. [0:47:49, 0:47:59]: Here's a zoning map of the area. The area highlighted in yellow with the star is the property, is the subject property we're referencing t referencing tonight. [0:48:00, 0:48:20]: Zoning information. Um the existing zoning, property to the north, you got um M2 Heavy Industrial located in unincorporated Henry County. Uh also to the north, you got C3 Heavy Commercial Zoning, also in unincorporated Henry County. And also to the north, you got M1 light industrial. [0:48:20, 0:48:40]: Industrial Henry County. Excuse me. To the south of the property, you got M1 and located in unincorporated Henry County. Property to the east, you got OI Office Institutional in the city of Stockbridge. And C2, General Commercial in the City of Stockbridge. And uh to the west of the property, you got PD and Uncorbridge. [0:48:39, 0:48:52]: unincorporated Henry County and uh near the Eagles Landing subdivision, the unincorporated portion. Here's a joint Henry County and City of Stockbridge um future land use map. The star highlights the subject property. [0:48:56, 0:49:16]: Surrounding future land use uh designations. To the north, you got secure care self-storage, Fortune Metal, Georgia, Disco Incorporated, and the current future land use is high density suburban Henry County. Property to the south, you have Trinity Chapel Church, and it's and [0:49:16, 0:49:36]: And a high density suburban land use category. Property to the east, you got Eagles Landing First Baptist Church, Eagles Landing Christian Academy, and it's low density residential. And also you have vacant land, low density mixed use. Property to the west, you got Eagles Landing Subdivision, and it's considered high density subdivision. [0:49:36, 0:49:47]: Suburban land use. Here's a map of all the land use densities that I just uh just referenced. Here's the overlay map of the parcel. [0:49:50, 0:50:10]: The zoning history. Um on October the ninth, um, Henry County Municipal Planning Commission reviewed the application and recommended approval subject to thirteen conditions. However, uh the city of Stockbridge City Council tabled the case during this meeting on November 10th, 2003, due to an active m uh moratorium on multifamily development. [0:50:10, 0:50:30]: Within the city. On December 10, 2003, the applicant submitted a revised rezoning request and site plan to rezone the subject property from M1 to RM3, which was sync at the time was a single-family residential, to construct 73 single-family detached lots. On June 10th, the Stockbridge Council approved the request with 14 conditions. [0:50:29, 0:50:49]: And a development agreement was written and adopted thereof. This particular development agreement is the one that's in question tonight and the one that we will be modifying. Uh preliminary site plan was prepared by Paragon Consulting Group and submitted to Herman County in June 2005 as part of the formal development review process. [0:50:49, 0:51:09]: Planning proposed 65 single-family lots, two designated amenity areas, a loop walking trail, seven water quality ponds, and a five-foot-wide and five-foot-wide sidewalks throughout the subdivision. The layout reflected a traditional estate-style design with a minimum lot size of [0:51:09, 0:51:25]: ten thousand five hundred square feet, sixty foot lock w widths, and larger building setbacks, forty foot in the front and rear, and ten on the side. The plan received staff approval on july seventeenth, two thousand and six. [0:51:25, 0:51:37]: The development of the site began around the this was the LDP portion, it began around two thousand six to two thousand seven. However, the global financial crisis that occurred between two thousand and seven and two thousand nine. [0:51:37, 0:51:45]: Resulted in the foreclosure of the site in 2008. Eventually the property was purchased by Henry Highway 42 in 2010. [0:51:47, 0:51:53]: Here's the uh original site plan and the development agreement was based upon this site plan. [0:51:56, 0:52:02]: It was originally called Orleans Manor at Eagles Landing and the date of this is December tenth, two thousand and three. [0:52:04, 0:52:08]: And here's the fourteen conditions. I'm not gonna read all this for time's sakes. [0:52:12, 0:52:17]: This is another um layout of the site plan showing the parcels. [0:52:20, 0:52:28]: And here's the original site plan up that was approved by Heron County staff in um July 17th, 2006. [0:52:29, 0:52:31]: The original site development in two thousand six. [0:52:32, 0:52:35]: It's on the left in the original site development in 2008. [0:52:35, 0:52:36]: It's on the right. [0:52:42, 0:52:57]: Okay, here's uh let me get to the meat of this. Um the request we're here to to hear a zoning modification to the existing site plan. So um the applicant wishes to address uh condition four, six, ten, twelve, fourteen, and twenty. [0:52:58, 0:53:18]: Of the original development agreement. The original, condition number four of the original development agreement stated that one-third of the single family home shall be a minimum of 2,500 square feet. As part of the zoning modification request, the applicant is requesting that one-third of the single-story home shall be a minimum of 2,400 square feet. [0:53:18, 0:53:18]: Square feet. [0:53:20, 0:53:40]: Um the applicant's reasoning is square feet square footage of twenty five hundred may not fit on all of the lot. Some of the lots on the current existing development plan are irregular and uh too small to put a twenty five hundred square foot home on there. So he needs to reduce some of the homes by a hundred square feet. He wants to uh [0:53:40, 0:54:00]: Change. The applicant wants to change condition number six, uh which addresses home exteriors, three three-sided brick stone or seventy-five percent brick stone. He wants to change to front of home shall be a mixture of fifty percent brick or stone and hardy plank or cementus fiber siding with a brick or stone water table on the top. [0:53:59, 0:54:15]: two sides of the home. The applicant stated the reason for this, it will be more mark marketable and compete with similar new developments in the area. The applicant also wishes to address condition number 10, hardwood street trees required throughout the development. [0:54:16, 0:54:32]: Uh that was the original con original condition number ten. The applicant is proposing through the modification, hardwood street trees shall only be required along Highway 2342. Uh the reason, distance between front exterior and the street is limited. [0:54:33, 0:54:53]: The applicant also wants to change condition number twelve, which states no minimum landscape strip between sidewalk and curb specified. The applicant is proposing a landscape landscape strip between curb and four foot sidewalks shall be a minimum of twenty-four inches along all public streets. [0:54:53, 0:54:58]: stating that um there's not enough room to do that because space is needed for utilities. [0:55:00, 0:55:06]: Uh he wants to address condition number fourteen, council approval required for all home plans prior to building permit. [0:55:07, 0:55:08]: The applicant's proposal [0:55:08, 0:55:28]: That home plan approval shall be issued by the Director of Community Development or other staff prior to issuance of approval or final plat. This will streamline the approval process and allow for administrative level review because uh currently all have all the homes will have to come back before council, which was which will slow down the process tremendously. [0:55:28, 0:55:45]: Also, the applicant wish to address um condition number 20 of the existing development plan that requires two amenity areas with extensive requirements, trail, pavilion, a bathhouse, divided playground, two pools, grills, trash, and parking. [0:55:45, 0:56:02]: He wants one of the amenities the applicant's proposing one amenities lot shall include a pool, cabana, playground, and parking lot. The applicant's rationale is to further clarify the prior development agreement's vague description of developments amenities package. [0:56:07, 0:56:09]: So um [0:56:10, 0:56:15]: Here's a comparison of the um of the site plans on the screen. [0:56:17, 0:56:22]: Okay, here's the rendering of the proposed um homes in the new development. [0:56:23, 0:56:40]: You can see there have a brick elevation and water tables on the side. Uh m Mr. Anderson, with due respect, you know we we discussed this earlier and it's certainly gonna be changed. Let's Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Let's Okay we can move this forward. Okay. All right. [0:56:42, 0:56:47]: Okay, well um staff recommended a um approval with conditions. [0:56:48, 0:56:48]: Um [0:56:50, 0:56:51]: There were um [0:56:54, 0:56:56]: Eleven staff conditions, screen. [0:57:06, 0:57:07]: Along with um [0:57:10, 0:57:14]: Twelve other conditions. Uh so it'll be a total of um [0:57:15, 0:57:19]: Twenty three conditions associated with the zoning modification. [0:57:22, 0:57:40]: So condition of approval number one. Um some of these may conflict. One third of the one story homes should have a have a minimum of twenty four hundred square feet of heated space rather than originally twenty five hundred. The front elevations of all the homes shall cons be a mixture of [0:57:41, 0:58:00]: fifty percent brick or stone and harder plank or cement is fiber with a brick or stone water table. However, we got conditions we received today that that trumps this staff condition that and um it says fifty percent of homes will be a hundred percent brick. The remainder will be market driven with some brick and craftman style. [0:58:01, 0:58:15]: Uh minimum s condition number two, minimum square footage will be, as I previously said, twenty four hundred square feet up to thirty-five hundred square feet. Condition number three, twenty-five percent of the homes will be three thousand square feet of over or over. [0:58:16, 0:58:36]: Condition number four, a paved eight-foot multi-use trail will connect the two phases of the subdivision with a pedestrian bridge over Rum Creek. This trail will connect to the 10-foot path along the furniture of Highway 42, 5-foot sidewalks throughout the subdivision, a clubhouse that can accommodate at least 50 people. [0:58:36, 0:58:51]: One pool for the subdivision, not two, a playground, a pool, monument sign at each entrance, a mail kiosk on both sides of the subdivision, and a school bus shelter. And also the Planning Commission added a um a condition that [0:58:51, 0:59:00]: A security fence shall be installed around the back of the development adjacent to the railroad tracks, and it shall extend by fifty feet on each side. So that's it. [0:59:01, 0:59:21]: Yeah go ahead please. Thank you. I appreciate the presentation and uh for clarity certainly uh trying to work these through and get the best possible development is what we've been trying to do to make sure that this product was sufficient and uh in coming with what we have in the area. Um [0:59:21, 0:59:41]: Uh there's been n uh ongoing discussions with the public, ongoing discussions with the developer and people in the area and um just to kinda see what we thought uh would be beneficial to the area. And generally um these size homes at twenty four hundred square feet would be [0:59:41, 1:00:01]: Above what what some of the minimums are and going up to 3,500 square feet would be equivalent to what they have in the Highlands uh subdivision across the street and the uh summit at Eagles Landing and uh certainly the Magnolias at Eagles Landing as well. And I've tried to be very consistent with what the product that I [1:00:01, 1:00:21]: I brought to that I brought or that I considered approving for the district. That we did the same thing here that we did on Brandon Road. On Brandon Road, we required all of the homes in the subdivision, 50% of them to be a 100% brick. So 100% 50% of the houses will be 100%. [1:00:21, 1:00:41]: Brick. And when I when we say market driven, let's say everybody that comes in wants brick on their homes, that then 100% of them will be bricked. The market will determine what is going to happen with the 50%. If they want craftsman style, that'll be flexibility to do that. But 50% of the homes will be 100% brick. [1:00:41, 1:01:01]: Um so that's consistent with what we did uh on Brandon Road, the 10 foot multi-use path along the frontage, uh the connecting sidewalks. And this is it sounded it was a pretty good plan to begin with that they had a multi-use trail built into the plan, and that plan actually this that the [1:01:01, 1:01:21]: Wolf Creek and Rum Creek actually separate two phases of this property. So they're gonna have a multi-use path connecting both sides of this new subdivision to connect the two sides that go over Rum Creek and Wolf Creek there as a multi-use trail. [1:01:21, 1:01:41]: Connecting to Highway 42, because currently Highway 42 has no sidewalks in this area. And as GDOT will widen Highway 42 from McDonough to Stockbridge in 2030, let's be clear on that. They will have a 10-foot multi-use path all the way from McDonough to Stockbridge on Highway 133. [1:01:41, 1:02:01]: So, this is always a part of our connectivity plan to make sure that the neighborhood is sufficient. I had discussed with the developer about having a clubhouse that would suit up to 50 people, that we would have a pool, that we would have a playground there as well in this area. So this subdivision. [1:02:01, 1:02:21]: division will be for fitting with uh what's going on in the area. And I think the one thing that we certainly need to talk about too is street lights is what part of the new the new covenant. Yes, street lights is part of the new of the code required. Right, so certainly we want to add as a condition. Right. So the street lights would be along the s the multi-use path like we've done in the past. [1:02:21, 1:02:41]: But I feel as though, you know, we as a developer will come up and make this. This is he he made a a a statement to me that he wanted to do something similar to what Winding Creek was, or just a little bit above that. And I think that would be in keeping with all of the neighborhoods that are over there uh right now. And with what you're [1:02:41, 1:02:50]: you uh what we will what will be put together will be I think a pr a pretty good product but let's see what they have to uh say in their presentation. [1:02:51, 1:03:02]: question uh in reference to all that, uh maybe unless I missed it, I didn't hear anything about a pickleball court, a tennis court and all that. No, sir. No. So I didn't okay. [1:03:03, 1:03:16]: I just just a curiosity. I'm sure he could put one there, but they didn't propose that. Any other questions for uh uh Ryan Ms. Anson? Okay, do do the blind applicants here they want to speak? Yes, sir, the applicant is here. [1:03:24, 1:03:31]: Good evening. Good evening, sir. Name and address, please. My name's Brian Marshburn. I live at twenty one seventy five Harperfield Terrace, Bogart, Georgia. [1:03:31, 1:03:34]: You have a presentation as well, sir? Uh yes I do, sir. Okay. [1:03:49, 1:03:50]: Yeah. [1:03:54, 1:03:55]: All right. [1:03:55, 1:04:15]: I represent Shaker Ready. My name's Brian Marshburn. I'm the agent for Shaker Ready. Shaker Reddy is a citizen of the United States of America and plans to take his property to highest and best use under his constitutional rights. And I appreciate your time. Mr. Reddy purchased this property right after the recession. The property had been incorporated. [1:04:15, 1:04:35]: There was plans to put uh multifamily here uh that was nixed. There were plans to build uh townhouses here that was not approved. Uh it was reduced to uh a lower density than we are or a higher density than we are. [1:04:35, 1:04:37]: requesting today. Uh we are [1:04:39, 1:04:59]: Uh Mr. Reddy purchased the property under the terms of foreclosure. So he just got it, basically, under all the current conditions. And after reviewing the survey, the size of the lots, uh it's not very permissible to permit most any sized house be built in a cul-de-sac. [1:04:59, 1:05:05]: So the lot uh we as a developer for the owner [1:05:05, 1:05:13]: Uh would like to make less lots than more lots, which is unusual. So the lots and the cul-de-sacks could be used. [1:05:14, 1:05:34]: Uh the development agreement was executed in 2014. Um there's M1 in the area, light industrial, mostly in industrial uses. We requested about seven years ago to meet with the city and they were graceful enough to give us the time, talk to them about putting them back into industrial uses. They said no, we prefer to keep it as a residential, so be it. [1:05:34, 1:05:40]: We're uh we have a a uh a plan to develop the property now. Um [1:05:41, 1:06:00]: The plan is for 59 units. Um the old plan called for two amenities packages, uh one with uh a playground, another one with a pool. Um, but the way it was worded was vague. So uh we're trying to clean that up with a modification, put uh the amenities onto one. [1:06:01, 1:06:02]: parcel um [1:06:02, 1:06:09]: There's only fifty nine lots in the neighborhood, so it's kind of a lot for a small community to maintain that many amenities. [1:06:11, 1:06:31]: Uh our modification requests are pretty small. Um we don't have any changes to the uh proposed uh square footages that were in the old plan. Uh the homes needed to be um consistent with the remaining homes on the east side of highway four. [1:06:31, 1:06:32]: forty two. [1:06:32, 1:06:52]: Park side of Eagles Landing, Magnolias at Eagles Landing, Winding Creek subdivision. There's over maybe 500 homes over there. Most of the, I would say 90% of those homes are brick front or a mixture of brick, stack stone, and stucco with vinyl siding on three sides, or uh [1:06:52, 1:07:02]: uh LP siding on three sides. Ours would have a mixture of stack stone stucco on fifty percent of the frontage with hardy plank on three sides. [1:07:04, 1:07:13]: Uh we request to remove the hardwood trees. I think we're willing to put those back in. Uh we had mentioned that uh during the planning and planning commission meeting. We're amenable to that. [1:07:15, 1:07:25]: the landscape strip between the curb and the um most new subdivisions is two feet between the curb and the sidewalk. This one had been originally proposed to be four feet. [1:07:25, 1:07:28]: And with a five foot sidewalk, but the lots are pretty narrow. [1:07:28, 1:07:32]: Like from the distance from the curb to the house. So if we can make those four feet. [1:07:33, 1:07:33]: Um [1:07:33, 1:07:37]: Most of your DOT people don't want them any water than that in the neighborhood because it covers other utilities. [1:07:39, 1:07:42]: That's not from me, that's from Henry County DOT. I know this is in the city, but [1:07:43, 1:07:44]: Um [1:07:44, 1:07:47]: All the home plans will be approved by the by the city. [1:07:47, 1:07:49]: Uh one amenities lot. [1:07:49, 1:07:52]: Uh we were willing to add uh mailbox banks. [1:07:52, 1:07:57]: And uh the remainder of development standards under the development codes of the city. [1:07:58, 1:08:10]: Uh the renderings are from the uh approved subdivision. There's over 200 lots in this neighborhood. It sold very well, Winding Creek, and they're very representative of what the homes would look like in the community. [1:08:11, 1:08:31]: Um as to the the clubhouse, this is the clubhouse in Winding Creek, but I will note that the clubhouse that's across the street in the neighborhood across the street is not a clubhouse, it's a cabana. Um it has restrooms and uh a dated pool and a dated playground with no mulch or anything on it right now. I just [1:08:31, 1:08:32]: [4114.8, 4121.1]: That that's our request. Um, we would love to have your approval and move forward. Thank you. [1:08:41, 1:09:01]: Any questions, Council? Yes, sir. As indicated in our conversations previously, um we talked about having a fifty percent of the units would be a hundred percent brick and the rest of them would be craftsman style. I think Mr. Anderson wrote um those into the conditions that we had required. [1:09:01, 1:09:20]: I I understand that, but it's not consistent with all the other neighborhoods on that side of the street. Okay. But every home on that side of the street in each of the park view, Magnolia, and Winding Creek are three sides parking. Let him finish talking. Let him finish talking, please. Go ahead, sir. [1:09:20, 1:09:33]: Their three sides hardy plank and brick front are are a mixture thereof, and we are requesting the exact same conditions and standards that those subdivisions are able to enjoy. [1:09:35, 1:09:47]: Let me answer that. And I told you on the phone today earlier we were raising the standards in the city. And every development on Brandon Road was done that way. And if you want this development in my vote, that's what we're gonna do. [1:09:49, 1:09:54]: All right, well the proposed pot project that was pushed to the end of this meeting. [1:09:55, 1:09:58]: I meet the exact same development standards as they do. [1:09:58, 1:10:01]: Are are you agreeable to that, sir? [1:10:02, 1:10:02]: No, sir. [1:10:03, 1:10:08]: You're not agreeable to what we agree to? No, sir. Well, you can't have my vote. Okay. [1:10:09, 1:10:11]: Any other questions for the gentleman? Yeah, go ahead, please. [1:10:12, 1:10:12]: Okay. [1:10:14, 1:10:22]: I live in Lakeside. Okay. So not too far from here. Thank you. Um, so I find this really interesting. Um [1:10:23, 1:10:25]: So the f uh for fee. [1:10:25, 1:10:35]: I know you mentioned about needing more room for utilities. Um, I don't particularly like having shorter [1:10:35, 1:10:47]: Sidewalks. Is there any other alternative It's the width, not the length. So even the width. Okay. Four feet, five feet, so be it. I mean it are you able to do wider? [1:10:47, 1:10:48]: I mean [1:10:49, 1:10:50]: What? [1:10:50, 1:11:05]: Is there any other option? I mean, I don't have an objection to it. I'm just the messenger. So uh it the requ the request was was to redo the the volume of concrete used in the project. So if we need to go from four feet to five feet. [1:11:05, 1:11:07]: You know, I I don't think it's a deal killer. [1:11:07, 1:11:12]: А б таймин проти, амі да [1:11:12, 1:11:17]: It's inconsistent with the remaining neighborhoods that have already been approved and are on the agenda for tonight. [1:11:20, 1:11:35]: Mr. Anderson, really quick question. So what are what is the standards for sidewalks for us? Is it five feet or eight feet? Always gonna carry in the interior of the subdivision is five feet. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um [1:11:38, 1:11:40]: That's the only question that I have. Okay. [1:11:40, 1:11:50]: Thank you. No problem. If no other questions if if no other questions and this is this is a uh a public hearing, so I have to open it up. Okay? Okay. So you can have a sit down, sir. [1:11:50, 1:12:05]: Can I come back up? Well you can yes. I'll bring it back up after we do this, okay? That'd be fine. All right. So the public hearing. So I need comments from my very uh left side, and the comments from my left side, four. Four is a vote, and the comments from the left side. Any comments in the middle. [1:12:06, 1:12:07]: Four. [1:12:07, 1:12:09]: And he comes from my far right, four. [1:12:10, 1:12:14]: Any comments against this particular development on my left side, my far left. [1:12:15, 1:12:16]: Anybody in the middle? [1:12:17, 1:12:19]: Before I write in comments against [1:12:19, 1:12:25]: Okay, so no comments on that note, then I'll close that particular part of the public hearing. And sir um [1:12:25, 1:12:43]: Uh once again if there are any com you can um you can come on back up uh Anderson please, sir. If there are any other comments, uh we need to have those and uh and then we'll go through the process. Now you read off the con all the conditions, you read off all the conditions already. Yes, and um and I'm uh [1:12:44, 1:12:55]: My assumption other than uh my assumption other than maybe what I just recently heard, all those other conditions you mentioned must be a a minimal. That I mean there's no problem with those other assumptions, I guess. Uh no sir. Uh conditions, I'm sorry. [1:12:56, 1:13:09]: Some of the conditions are staff condition um from the planning commission meeting and then uh other conditions uh were added. Um to try to get it. Yes, sir. It's it's one of the staff conditions. Okay. Yes, sir. [1:13:10, 1:13:11]: All right. All right. [1:13:13, 1:13:24]: Okay, y you you're thinking hold on a second, she's think she's like you're you're concerned. I got a couple of questions. Okay, one second. I'm just looking at Miss Gantt here, the way she's got expression on her face here. What what's on your mind? [1:13:24, 1:13:30]: I'm gonna I'm gonna let my colleagues speak first and then we'll go from there. Okay. You have comments, ma'am? [1:13:31, 1:13:37]: I didn't but I do have a thought. So Mr Anderson. Yes. [1:13:39, 1:13:52]: I know that our standards requ well, we allow a mixture of both brick and hardy plank and others. Um there is no particular requirement, is there? [1:13:52, 1:14:12]: for a four sided wreck. Mm-hmm. Currently not in the code, but uh we can we can up attach it as a condition of a z condition of zoning approval. We can attach for we can attach and a requirement for zoning condition of zoning approval to a certain percentage of the units being uh certain unit [1:14:12, 1:14:16]: [4457.7, 4464.8]: Um so what new developments have been approved by the council requiring four sided brick? [1:14:25, 1:14:26]: Uh mm [1:14:26, 1:14:28]: Have there been any recent? [1:14:30, 1:14:32]: Um trying to think of [1:14:32, 1:14:52]: Brennan Road Liberty uh reserve hickory hickory reserve over there and then the mister Anderson. Yes, we have. I I just couldn't think of the the name right away'cause I go through so many okay zoning uh m information. So but yes, we have approved some some some developers even volunteer to have Foresight. [1:14:54, 1:15:11]: Okay. Well, a whole lot of town homes have been approved in my district. So I welcome single family these hatched homes. Um and it didn't get my support. And I don't believe any of them had brick or four side brick. But what [1:15:11, 1:15:15]: Um that's just my district. What? Um district four. [1:15:15, 1:15:35]: Some of those in your district, Councilmember Barber, were approved before um we changed our standards, mm-hmm, uh MFR standards, but in the future they can build what they they got approved for in the past. Okay. So we changed that. Okay. Well nine has been approved. I don't think we have room for any more. Thank you, sir. [1:15:35, 1:15:42]: Okay. You have something else, sir? Yeah. I mean I live in a hard three side hardy plank home. [1:15:42, 1:15:43]: My house is [1:15:44, 1:15:45]: thirty three hundred square feet. [1:15:46, 1:15:48]: My neighbor's house is twenty four hundred square feet. [1:15:48, 1:15:51]: The neighbor to my left is twenty seven hundred square feet. [1:15:52, 1:15:54]: My home is three sides, Hardy Plank. [1:15:54, 1:15:57]: And I have uh brick accents on the front. [1:15:57, 1:15:58]: Uh [1:15:58, 1:16:18]: I live in a pretty attractive neighborhood. Uh my home would be similar to these homes. I'm happy to share this image with you. That's fine. No need to do that. No, no, no, it's fine. No need to do that. I just think it's I just think it's uh it it's gonna increase the the home price for a purchaser in this market right now. They're gonna be outpriced other [1:16:18, 1:16:33]: market. Right now in Georgia MLS and 30210 or 30281 area code, there are only five homes under contract. Five. So this project's been sitting idle for 15 years. [1:16:34, 1:16:42]: And for seven years I have had an issue trying to sell this property because the property is unmarketable because it requires mostly brick homes. [1:16:42, 1:16:46]: And all the other communities in the uh surrounding area that have been approved. [1:16:47, 1:16:47]: And I've been built [1:16:48, 1:16:59]: Our three sided hardy plank with a mixture of Staxon and Stucco. That is the only request and that is the only reason that we're asking for the request. We're not requesting it because we want to save money on the project. [1:16:59, 1:17:19]: The the market in this community is between about three fifty and five fifty. That's the sweet spot for a house. We put four-sided brick home, which I'd love to build them four-sided brick, but I just don't see that it's gonna sell. I mean, we can get it approved, we can break ground, we can start building, and we're gonna have fifty-eight vacant lots. So [1:17:19, 1:17:20]: So that's not our intent. [1:17:21, 1:17:21]: All right. [1:17:21, 1:17:41]: Thank you. Appreciate it. Mr. Alexander, you still have another comment, sir? Yeah, I do. And uh I I just this is the thing. We went we endeavored to do what we did to make sure that we were raising the standards in the community. Now, the the development that we approved on Brandon Road was 50% Brandon. [1:17:41, 1:17:48]: brick homes, fifty percent. We we did that because the neighbors asked us to do that. [1:17:51, 1:18:11]: The neighbors asked us to do that. And we did that because what we were doing was to do what the neighbors wanted us to do. Because the homes in Providence Harbor were a million dollars. And they were designed to make uh the community and to improve the community. Now what we've done uh [1:18:11, 1:18:20]: uh on Brandon Road in the new neighborhood that's under construction and what we've done uh over at uh I'm talking I'm talking [1:18:23, 1:18:37]: What I've done is I've been able to move forward with the Pulty community, they agreed to do it, with the Liberty community agreed to do it. Uh we did some townhomes right down the street. [1:18:37, 1:18:57]: uh uh by Meritage, this very same company, Meritage, right at the corner of Highway 42 and um and Campground Road. The bungalows are three sides brick with rear entry garages on them. Uh on those side on on the even on the bungalows that are a [1:18:57, 1:19:17]: Accline with the townhomes. So we've been doing what we're doing, and everything that I've been trying to do and get approved in my district has had at least three-sides brick. And the compromise with the neighbors on Brandon Road is that their homes were 100% brick and a million dollars. And right behind this neighborhood is Eagle. [1:19:17, 1:19:19]: Landing Country Club. [1:19:20, 1:19:40]: This neighborhood backs up to Eagles Landing Country Club. So there's a fence. That's why the Planning Commission asked that they uh have that fence there because the Eagles Landing Country Club is on the other side of this neighborhood. And certainly I've been reached out to by neighbors from the country club, and there was a gentleman who actually showed up at the [1:19:40, 1:20:00]: the Planning Commission who lived at Eagles Landing Country Club, who wanted to make sure that his property value wasn't going to be impacted by the neighborhood that was behind him. So having a higher price point when you got a$2 million house across the street behind this house is significant for us to be able to maintain that. [1:20:00, 1:20:20]: I noticed that we did not have that mentioned in the well we talked about the neighborhoods that were of a lower standard that were approved before this council, but there was no mention that this neighborhood backs up to Eagles Landing Country Club. And there are million-dollar homes right behind this neighborhood. No one said anything about that. [1:20:19, 1:20:39]: That's what we're trying to establish here is we're trying to establish a middle ground where we are because fifty percent of the homes are exactly what the developer has asked for. 50% of the homes are exactly what he asked for. They would be brick, stone, or stucco. He could do they could be done any way that they want to. [1:20:40, 1:20:43]: But fifty percent of the homes will be a hundred percent brick. [1:20:44, 1:21:04]: Henry County, that's what they're doing with their homes. And they're being very consistent because if you look at the neighborhood on Jodico Road, um it has uh right down from the bridges at Jodico, it has four-side brick homes all the way through that particular neighborhood. Uh if we look at the bridges at Jodeco, [1:21:04, 1:21:24]: Dodaco, the townhomes over there, or three-size brick on the uh Tessa development over there, and the uh homes that they're gonna be building uh in there by Poulte would be consistent with that. What I'm trying to get us to understand is that we are trying to raise the standard in the community. [1:21:24, 1:21:44]: I'm not necessarily opposed to Hardy Plank because 50% of the homes would consist of hardy plank, stone, or stucco. 50% of them would. They would be exactly what he asked for. But again, in talking with the neighbors in Providence Harbor, talking with the neighbors in St. Andrews, talking with the neighbors. [1:21:44, 1:22:04]: In Clark Meadow and the Magnolias at Eagles Landing over there. The Magnolias at Eagles Landing has some similar homes too that are four-size brick. Some of them are. So what we're trying to do is we're trying to meet the middle ground where we have million-dollar homes behind this neighborhood. In front of this neighborhood, we have [1:22:04, 1:22:24]: Some h some so we have some pretty good neighborhoods in the summit at Eagles Landing. We have some substandard neighborhoods that were approved in the early 2000s where those houses are literally falling apart at this point. So what I'm trying to do is hit the middle on that and to compromise. And I'm I'm a little disappointed that we [1:22:24, 1:22:44]: We I thought we had an agreement and uh the gentleman told me on the phone, okay, everything was okay, so we wouldn't have this debate here at the meeting, and now I find myself in this position of, you know, we're we're here. It's a little disappointing, but certainly if we don't if we don't stand for something, we'll fall for anything. [1:22:43, 1:23:03]: Because in the end, if the price point is$300,000 to$500,000, right? Where we're trying to go. And I I take issue with the fact what was said is that, okay, the the the hardy plank will have the same value as the brick, and you don't want to do it. [1:23:03, 1:23:08]: wouldn't you wanna do it? The night the reason you don't want to do it is'cause the bricks cost more. [1:23:08, 1:23:28]: The bricks are going to cost more. It's going to raise the property value on the home. And that's what I would see doing. And certainly we need single-family detached homes in the neighborhood. But what we're missing is, and I'm going to close this within the next 60 seconds, people are literally leaving Stockbridge right now to [1:23:28, 1:23:34]: to go to Hampton, to go to McDonough, to go to other areas. Why are they doing that? [1:23:34, 1:23:54]: They don't have the home to upgrade to. But if they had a 3,500 square feet or 3,200 all brick home, they wouldn't have to move to Hampton, to the Henry County houses that require four-side brick. They wouldn't have to move to Ellenwood to the Henry County homes that require four-side brick. They wouldn't have to move to Locust Grove to the Henry County home. [1:23:54, 1:24:14]: That require four-side brick. We're trying to make sure that we're consistent with what they're doing in those areas because people right now in my district I have zero single family homes for sale in that area that will be able to have somebody be able to upgrade. And that's what the issue is right now. And certainly [1:24:14, 1:24:34]: Again, as I said, the bridges at Jodico Development, they have three-size brick with rear entry garages on Tessa. The Jodico Development has at Henry County. All of their developments have four-side brick on them. The Jonesboro Road development under Henry County, all four-size brick. That's what they're doing. Now on the town. [1:24:34, 1:24:53]: homes in order to make things a little bit cheaper. They don't put on brick on those because that's where the affordable housing component comes in at. But we have that here in this neighborhood because 50% of the houses will be 100% brick and 50% of the houses will be exactly like the developer has described. Thank you. [1:24:53, 1:24:56]: Right. Any other comments at all? Ms. Gantt? Oh. [1:24:57, 1:24:58]: Folks. [1:24:58, 1:24:59]: Go ahead. Go. [1:25:00, 1:25:03]: I just wanted to ask him, how many bedrooms? [1:25:04, 1:25:10]: Uh the minimum smart footage for paper. Okay. Smart footage of paper. [1:25:15, 1:25:17]: The answer to the question is how many bedrooms? [1:25:18, 1:25:32]: The the question is how many bedrooms? The minimum on a ranch is three bedrooms. You probably wouldn't have four to five bedrooms in the two stories. Um these these homes are gonna be pretty desirable. I mean, like [1:25:34, 1:25:39]: I w I'm really wishing. The homes that are [1:25:40, 1:25:41]: that flank [1:25:41, 1:25:45]: And both neighborhoods on the north and the south side. [1:25:45, 1:25:54]: I mean, at random you can pick any one on tax records and the average is probably about twenty two hundred square feet. Can you show the elevations again? [1:25:55, 1:26:04]: Yeah, sure. I like to have them in my district. It's the same as Wanding Creek. So I mean I th there's no change in [1:26:05, 1:26:08]: And the elevation, uh there'll be the similar elevation. [1:26:09, 1:26:10]: I mean [1:26:10, 1:26:27]: I I there over the over two hundred of these houses sold in about two years. So I mean I I know these homes will sell. So these are at a price point that a uh that a buyer can afford and it's an upgrade for most of the homes in the community. Um these homes will [1:26:28, 1:26:34]: Probably around about a forty five hundred dollar a month mortgage payment, principal interest, taxes, and insurance. [1:26:35, 1:26:43]: My mortgage payment's about twenty five hundred a month, and I think it's a lot. So um forgive me, but I mean, I don't know that. [1:26:44, 1:26:53]: The average person in this 250,000 people area of Henry County, I mean no, we're in the city of Stockbridge. [1:26:53, 1:27:10]: And we're trying to obtain a uh a nicer development. But I think this is is it for the for the community. And I mean, I I I really I would love to make'em four size brick. I would love to, but I just don't foresee that it being economically feasible. [1:27:11, 1:27:14]: What one s one second. Mm Ms. Gantt, do you have a question? [1:27:15, 1:27:26]: Just a a question a real quick comment. Like it kinda like what we do with townhomes, uh like in this picture alone, if I'm coming down the road and that's the first house I see, can it be? [1:27:26, 1:27:31]: Th these are actual photos inside of Winding Creek. Okay. [1:27:31, 1:27:38]: Okay. Th this is Winding Creek. This is Winding Creek. Yeah. And these homes sold between three twenty five and four fifty. [1:27:38, 1:27:58]: Well something that um what we started doing is those in homes we put when you first drive in and you can see those front homes, we put brick on all sides so visibility so when they walk in they'll see the brick on that that one corner house. Well what what if we put brick? [1:27:58, 1:28:00]: Brick on the entryway homes. [1:28:01, 1:28:18]: That that's what I'm saying. Those entryways or those main the roads. We could uh do the same facade on the rest of'em on the interior, but you from the from the from the visibility standpoint from Highway forty two it'd be brick. Correct. Yes, ma'am. Um so [1:28:20, 1:28:23]: Uh some of my concerns about the market is [1:28:23, 1:28:33]: Um just that. Um we've seen articles now where people say there's a seller's market. There are more sellers than there are buyers. However, [1:28:33, 1:28:37]: In Stockbridge, there's a dire need for housing. [1:28:37, 1:28:57]: Now, what that housing looks like, I mean, I can't imagine paying five thousand dollars in a mortgage. Like it's it's expensive. Things have gotten out of hand um to a certain degree and and very unaffordable. I mean the cost of living has increased and people are still getting paid the same of wage, they might get a little bit of an increase. [1:28:57, 1:29:00]: But nothing compared to [1:29:00, 1:29:03]: Вот гаска рокет і матеріал. [1:29:04, 1:29:05]: In our community. [1:29:05, 1:29:06]: And [1:29:06, 1:29:09]: I think we all are affected by it. [1:29:10, 1:29:10]: And [1:29:11, 1:29:14]: one of my largest concerns is I don't hear [1:29:14, 1:29:16]: Oh you know, I don't [1:29:17, 1:29:37]: Quite honestly, I wanna make it affordable, but I don't want it looking cheap, right? And if we have a if we have a product that has whatever our our normal is with the percentage of our product on uh based off of the way it should look, and we put the brick like we did everything like [1:29:37, 1:29:41]: the standards, you know, visibility wise. [1:29:42, 1:29:54]: I'm a little prone to that because of the desire and need for single family dwellings. When you there has been a it's been a moment since I've had a person come up here about a subdivision. [1:29:54, 1:30:01]: with housing. Like I I'd much rather have some home, some single family housing than [1:30:01, 1:30:04]: the new trend of everybody trying to do um [1:30:04, 1:30:19]: town homes. And I I'm not against I I'm not trying to be biased, but there is a need. And that need also needs to be within reason. A lot of times people I hear from [1:30:19, 1:30:32]: And I'm a real estate lawyer and I'm a family law lawyer and what I hear from people is I wanted to buy a house in Stockbridge, but it was too high and I couldn't afford it. [1:30:32, 1:30:34]: But I'm not saying to make it [1:30:35, 1:30:55]: Cheap. I want I want quality. I know that the$350,$550 range, but I've seen in other areas where townhomes have dropped some. You know, they started a price point of$400,000, it dropped down to$300, and then it dropped down to$200. And there is again, there is this art. [1:30:54, 1:31:14]: articles out there there's a seller's there's a buyer's market because there are more sellers than there are buyers. But here there's a need. And to me that need is for subdivisions with single family homes, not necessarily town homes. Um I mean I I I there are some town homes that I welcome [1:31:14, 1:31:29]: you know, I uh mo more modern, three story, you know, name it, trendy. But in the same instance, I wanna make this work. Um, and so I if it's in code and it's based off the recommendation of [1:31:29, 1:31:41]: our um our uh community development director and planning and z zoning or or whatever the case may be, we need to [1:31:42, 1:31:50]: Really look at the need. And to me, the need is what new single family subdivisions do we have here? [1:31:51, 1:31:57]: So I would love to make this work. And I respect the fact that my colleague, this is his district. [1:31:58, 1:32:18]: I want it to work for him, but I also want to be fair for our community and want to make sure that it fits. And if it's gonna look I mean it didn't look the product you just showed me did not look bad in my opinion. Um I I'm not saying I do want it to look excellent, but I didn't [1:32:18, 1:32:20]: And see something where [1:32:21, 1:32:25]: Y you know, in character I've always said I I don't want [1:32:25, 1:32:38]: I don't want all four brick houses. I mean I everybody have brick. It's just is no character involved. Concern about this particular development as well is on the rear of this property is Norfolk Southern Railroad. [1:32:39, 1:32:42]: On the north of the property is a recycling center. [1:32:42, 1:32:45]: So this property was zoned industrial. [1:32:46, 1:32:49]: On the south of the subject property is industrial. [1:32:50, 1:32:56]: Those aren't gonna change. The north of the property is Fortune Metal Recycling. They recycle metal. [1:32:57, 1:32:59]: Амін, ви наскін [1:32:59, 1:33:19]: for to build an inexpensive home here. We're asking to build a quality home out of the same materials that have been used on similar subdivisions in District Five and sold. So uh that's the only thing that we're requesting. We're not requesting anything unrealistic. Um [1:33:21, 1:33:23]: Um Mr. Anderson. Yes. [1:33:24, 1:33:43]: Yes. It would be up to code and materials. There is a percent certain percentage of brick that's required. Is that not correct? That would be a condition of approval. However, um our current code is is pretty stringent. Uh you can't anything you build in in Stockbridge right now, because of the changes we made recently to our code, would be pretty much class A. [1:33:45, 1:34:05]: So all Class A materials are currently required. So um the request for four sided brick is just to increase the property value of the homes in the area or in that in that particular subdivision. But even if we went strictly by our current code, it still would be a class A product. [1:34:05, 1:34:05]: Um [1:34:07, 1:34:10]: Mr. Bear, go ahead, please. [1:34:10, 1:34:30]: Yeah. So I wanted to kinda piggyback off of uh Councilwoman Gantt's statement and I wanted to see where the middle ground was. Um maybe we can split the baby. I I I don't know the background on it, but um the fifty percent brick, um what's what's the number that we're we're good at? [1:34:30, 1:34:50]: What's what's a like where where's the mid middle ground? We're willing to do brick on the exterior homes, like the front up on the highway forty-two. When you entered the two flanking, I use the two flanking subject. The two the two entryways. Well the one that goes into Magnolia and the one that goes into Parkside. And just that standard was made. [1:34:49, 1:35:03]: met in those two communities. So the first say two homes in each of those communities, when you go into the entryways, they are three sided, whatever they are. What's the total number of homes on on both sides? [1:35:03, 1:35:23]: You have it in your presentation that was verified. Yeah, uh well. But let's say it's six hundred total, maybe more. Um and most of them are much smaller than the min the minimum square footage that would be probably in hours. Yeah, that's my presentation that would be staff's presentation. So so so the homes you're talking about, how many homes would that would that be? [1:35:23, 1:35:43]: So could we could we go to a higher number on the entryway like the first five or the first if that's Well there's fifty nine homes in the community, so it's pretty small. So I mean what if we did two, four, six, on each side of the street, two, four, two, four, six, eight. Make those three sides brick. [1:35:43, 1:36:03]: And then do the remaining of those with uh fifty percent stacks on our stuff up or break fifty percent that's that sounds like a a reasonable w what you think. Let me let me say this. Sounds like a reasonable um that it's a fair compromise in where we're trying to [1:36:03, 1:36:23]: To go. But I think what he was trying to hit on, and what I was trying to hit on, is what is an acceptable number for 100% brick? Is it 25%? Is it 30% brick? Where 70% of them are like the council is asking for? What's that number where if two, four, six, and eight are brick? [1:36:23, 1:36:30]: What's the acceptable number? Is it twenty five percent? Is it thirty percent? What I I just want some a hundred percent brick homes in the neighborhood. [1:36:34, 1:36:54]: And if if those homes on the front were gonna be hundred a hundred percent brick or three size brick, that certainly could be a compromise position. But there in in my district, I want brick on mo on those homes because I I with all due respect I with with what you propose, sir. [1:36:54, 1:37:14]: I I just haven't seen anybody come in here to Stockbridge and say the house was too expensive. I haven't seen that. I'll only what I've seen come here is people moving out of the neighborhood to try to find a four-side brick home in Hampton. And we've lost population to that because buyers are trying to upgrade. So I'm trying to [1:37:14, 1:37:29]: to get more brick on these homes and certainly if that was a compromise position to have the homes or twenty five percent of them or thirty percent of them uh be brick. You know, if you're looking at fifty nine, somebody do the math. What's the percentage? [1:37:29, 1:37:30]: Thirteen. [1:37:31, 1:37:34]: So that would be thirteen uh percent. [1:37:35, 1:37:37]: So again, thirteen percent. [1:37:40, 1:37:42]: The two four six eight just about twelve thousand. [1:37:43, 1:37:46]: Right. So could we get to twenty percent? [1:37:50, 1:37:51]: Wow. [1:37:51, 1:38:00]: Forgive me, but Winding Creek, there are over two hundred homes in there. It's a hundred and seven. Okay. How m how many, sir? A hundred and seven. One hundred seven? [1:38:01, 1:38:21]: And they they're all the same standards as these and they just sold two years ago. With w uh do with correction, Winding Creek was rezoned in twenty seventeen before most a lot they got the last two got here and certainly that was before the council was inv or any of us were involved in upgrading the standard of the L L D C Tell us what [1:38:21, 1:38:29]: What number is it? What number is acceptable to you where we can try to negotiate as Mr. Barber does? What number four four more homes? [1:38:29, 1:38:32]: Twenty percent is twelve homes, four more homes. [1:38:41, 1:38:43]: We'll give you a ten. How about that? [1:38:44, 1:38:47]: Ten. Ten all break homes. Yes. [1:38:48, 1:38:53]: What if I did you a favor? What if we make the front homes, the front [1:38:55, 1:39:01]: The front four homes all brick and every home all brick on the front. Completely. [1:39:01, 1:39:03]: That sounds like we could work that out. [1:39:05, 1:39:08]: One hundred percent brick, stone, or stucco fronts. [1:39:09, 1:39:14]: They can have some accents, maybe up to twenty percent s with uh hardy plank on the front. [1:39:15, 1:39:35]: Okay, hold hold on one second. There's not a no we're not talking about No, I'm not I'm not I'm not trying to be funny here. I'm just trying to say that because you're gonna have uh facade pieces and accents and that sort of thing and the and the gables. Right but but if we could have eighty percent of the front uh a hundred percent uh eighty percent stack stone stucco or or [1:39:35, 1:39:44]: or brick, and then we'll make the the four front ones all brick or all stack stone stucco or or or uh first four [1:39:44, 1:40:04]: First four when you go in so be one, two, three, four, all sides, uh hardy plank, no, excuse me, uh eighty eighty percent stack stone, stucco, or brick. And then all of the fronts on all of the homes in the community would be stack stone stucco eighty stone. [1:40:04, 1:40:15]: Eighty percent. So in other words, twenty percent. Let me tell you something. I'm trying to save you. Fifty percent of the homes don't could be craftsman style. That's what I was trying to tell you. Give me the same standards as the one behind me. [1:40:17, 1:40:37]: We try that's what we're trying to trying to come to a resolution. This this neighborhood this neighborhood that's on on the agenda. That's up up next right behind me. That is let me tell you something. That is not forward like that. If you could give me the exact same standards that you're gonna put They're not gonna get that standard. They're not. They already know that. Okay. They're not getting [1:40:37, 1:40:57]: In that standard tonight. I was just wondering why we got the agenda shuffle tonight. Mayor. Yes, yes. Let me just finish real quick. If I could. I was uh I I'm I want to stick with where bear Mr. Berry is. We we got a compromise. All we need you to do is tell us what houses we were at how many miss Mr. Barber? Where was it? Mr. Berry, we was at 18. [1:40:57, 1:40:59]: Twelve. [1:41:00, 1:41:18]: Tend the toy. What number I'm I'm willing to do every front on the whole community, eighty percent stack stone stucco or brick. And I'm willing to do the front four houses a hundred percent all the way around and the fronts eighty percent so they can look the same uh facade as match the whole rest of the community. [1:41:19, 1:41:31]: So you're only do willing to do four all four four all on the front. So that when you're driving down forty two it eight homes. So eight divided by fifty nine is thirteen and a half percent. [1:41:34, 1:41:40]: And I'll increase the standards from fifty to eighty for stack stone stuck on all the houses. [1:41:41, 1:41:44]: We can do that. We can do that. [1:41:44, 1:41:51]: And then they'd have a water table on two sides too. So the water table comes up. So we've gotten a hundred percent brick homes in there, so we can do that. [1:41:52, 1:41:55]: Is that agreeable? I'm agreeable to it. [1:41:57, 1:42:03]: Long as it captured uh on the properly in the it's in the motion if that's the case. [1:42:05, 1:42:12]: Would you like me to repeat it? Yes, sir. Okay. All homes front, eighty percent stack, stone, stucco, or brick. [1:42:17, 1:42:19]: We'll still do the water table on three sides. [1:42:25, 1:42:45]: And the four homes that face or they don't front, the sides would be fronting on 42. Those homes, the three sides would be 100% brick, stone, or stucco on the three sides, and the front would be [1:42:45, 1:42:52]: the same as all the rest of'em. So they all match or could match or be similar facades. [1:42:53, 1:43:12]: That's a brick all the way around. Right. That's our time. Well y I just wanted to be real clear. Oh no, okay. We intend for this community to be a sell. So and be y everyone be proud of it. I don't want anybody to not be proud of it. [1:43:14, 1:43:14]: Okay. [1:43:16, 1:43:30]: Mayor, now redo let's go over all of the conditions again. Now we had talked about um you know making sure that we have five foot sidewalks in there. Yeah, go ahead please. [1:43:36, 1:43:37]: Yes, ma'am. [1:43:40, 1:43:41]: On the front. [1:43:52, 1:43:54]: On all of them. [1:43:55, 1:43:56]: On the balance of them. [1:44:02, 1:44:06]: Four sides. And there's there's four of them. So there's four. [1:44:06, 1:44:15]: The ones that front, the side if they have a face that that you can see from forty two, there'd be four of them, then all that would be four side brick. [1:44:19, 1:44:20]: Yes. [1:44:22, 1:44:42]: So it'll be an upgrade from Winding Creek. Right. We have five uh foot sidewalks, is that correct? Yes, sir. Right. Now we had talked about the amenities. We got a clubhouse with the clubhouse. We we have a clubhouse, but what I would like, and uh we have the same in my community as well, we don't have an actual physical clubhouse where you can meet. We have a it's [1:44:42, 1:44:51]: It's a cabana with two restrooms, which is has a shower in there. It has a a covered area and a big porch with a uh what do you call uh [1:44:52, 1:45:12]: Hardy plank, not hardy plank, but tongue and groove under it. And then it's uh just a covered cabana. It's pretty big. It's about fifty. It's not a gazebo, it's part of the building. But it's big enough where you can get a crowd under there out of the rain. And we have our HOA meetings there. The little community I live in is similar to this one. It's only 42 lines. [1:45:12, 1:45:30]: lots. So we have a HOA meeting. Everyone just meets over there. If it's hot, you stand under there. But this a small neighborhood. So we're trying to keep the HOA fees low. Correct. So five or six hundred bucks a month is about the max that's going to be. So if I gotta put a building there that I got a heat and air. [1:45:30, 1:45:34]: They're gonna have to pay for that too. So I mean I'm just trying to keep it manageable. [1:45:34, 1:45:47]: Uh well what I would say suggest is that since there's only fifty nine homes that there'd be a smaller building but that do be in a closed building, because you d you're living in a four hundred thousand to five hundred thousand dollar house and you're not gonna have a clubhouse. [1:45:47, 1:45:51]: But couldn't we just go across the street and pay the church some money to have a meeting? [1:45:52, 1:46:10]: Uh oh are we gonna lower the standards? No, I don't think so. So uh what does the council think about the neighbor neighbor the community across the street? Sure excuse me. I'm we've been pretty consistent in that we've asked for clubhouses on these communities. Is that what the desire of the council is so we can move forward? Or no? Or the cabana is the cabana okay. [1:46:11, 1:46:18]: Mayor, I have a question. Mr. Anderson, what's the requirements for how many houses you have to have to have certain amenities? [1:46:18, 1:46:24]: Uh one hundred use the triggers. Okay, this is fifty nine. So my thing is I'm gonna go with the cabana. [1:46:25, 1:46:36]: What's the requirement again? Because it's a hundred homes. We cannot we've got uh what I'm seeing is is a a I don't wanna alarm the public as if it's a crisis. [1:46:36, 1:46:45]: But again, people are suffering. I'm not trying to build anything cheap. Let me get this really clear. But I want to be within reason. [1:46:46, 1:46:55]: I I think it's just it just makes sense. And if I'm out of order, I I'm out of order. It's just me. I mean each individual one of us are up here to [1:46:56, 1:47:02]: vote. We can't all we don't always agree. But my concern with this is is making sure [1:47:03, 1:47:06]: That we are not out pricing the market. [1:47:07, 1:47:11]: We I I just want us to be within reason. Fifty nine homes with the HOA. [1:47:12, 1:47:14]: Is is is that's tough. [1:47:14, 1:47:17]: You you're putting a a a tough [1:47:17, 1:47:21]: requirement on fifty nine families. That's tough. [1:47:21, 1:47:34]: So you want to do it. With the clubhouse. Yeah, I I do. I I don't I want what just was said. I just don't think and I'm not here to advocate for that. I'm just saying you're gonna keep the price a little bit lower. You only have fifty nine homes. [1:47:35, 1:47:48]: You you're the requirement, there's a reason. What is the number again, Mr. Anderson, for the requirement for us with the amenities and the clubhouse? What's the one hundred is the starting one hundred. Yes. We don't have that number. [1:47:49, 1:47:51]: I'm not gonna go I'm not gonna do that. [1:47:52, 1:48:08]: Well again that certainly that's that's what I'm asking because in the end it's like we can request what we desire but at the same time that's that's what automatically triggers it. That doesn't mean it's not necessary for a five hundred thousand dollar neighborhood. But it's gonna be up to the rest of the council. What do you think, Mr Berry? [1:48:10, 1:48:19]: I'm gonna have to uh go the same way. Um, I know the number's a hundred but I'm kinda indifferent on it because the price point, we're talking about a nicer neighborhood. [1:48:20, 1:48:20]: Um [1:48:22, 1:48:31]: What is the pr I guess my question to you is what is the the financial ramifications of a small clubhouse versus a cabana or something that may have [1:48:33, 1:48:45]: What's what's the difference? The the likelihood of increased fees probably a hundred bucks per month per year per door, so fifty nine hundred dollars a year. [1:48:45, 1:48:48]: Uh, plus you've got uh the cost to build it. [1:48:48, 1:48:52]: So that's gonna get divided upon fifty nine houses, so [1:48:53, 1:48:54]: I mean really [1:48:54, 1:49:04]: I live in a very similar size neighborhood. So and I've shared photographs of my house. I feel very comfortable built with this product and it [1:49:04, 1:49:05]: The pool. [1:49:06, 1:49:09]: And the amenities they get used a little bit. [1:49:09, 1:49:28]: Um we all pay to keep'em up and make'em look nice. The homeowners will. Does the does the pool area allow access for the kids to have somewhere to change or at least use the restrooms? Oh yeah. They have two restrooms, men's and women's, and they have showers in there as well. So I mean they're pretty nice. Um I mean we've [1:49:29, 1:49:49]: Built communities that have clubhouses, but they had 155 lots. So it was a little bit more for them to to tolerate. I mean, this is a very small neighborhood. Does it have a picnic area for congregating, like if you wanted to have a kid's birthday party? Yes. Yeah, so they have the space around there. It'd be a poor concrete match. [1:49:48, 1:49:50]: [6591.0, 6595.0]: Um a cabana, pretty big cabana. Um I [1:49:56, 1:50:11]: If I had Google Maps, I could show you ours. It's great. Um what the area out behind the pool is where the uh playground will go. It'd be a professionally built playground, um, up to code, um, and fenced with a uh [1:50:12, 1:50:13]: Aluminum fence. [1:50:13, 1:50:26]: Yeah. What what the only thing that I would say to that is if I'm in December, am I gonna be sitting outside? If it was a smaller enclosed unit, I can meet in my neighborhood. Otherwise I gotta go to Holiday Inn to have a community meeting. [1:50:27, 1:50:30]: And then those meetings in the summertime are gonna be god awful hot. [1:50:31, 1:50:32]: We got fans. [1:50:32, 1:50:45]: It's gonna be god awful high. So we can have'em after six. The compromise will be a smaller unit, smaller enclosed unit, something that they can meet in in a neighborhood so they don't have to leave their neighborhood to meet. [1:50:45, 1:50:50]: I I think that's reasonable. I mean a m uh I guess it's up to the mayor and Miss Barber. [1:50:53, 1:51:13]: Well, I've I've I've I'm I have the luxury of living in the one of the largest communities in the in the county. So I mean we have a clubhouse and pool, so and tennis courts, multiple, so I d in that aspect. But I think the what makes logical sense to me is uh what Mr. Anderson mentioned, typically for a clubhouse the the trigger is a hundred a hundred homes in that aspect. [1:51:13, 1:51:33]: because I know by uh living where I live and and Miss Gannon and I live in the same community, Monarch Village, what I mean and I served on the uh H O A board for many years there. I I know what kind of uh cost factor that would be and and if you have a larger community spread across you spread it across everybody. It doesn't make much of a uh that much of an impact on [1:51:33, 1:51:53]: Everybody's monthly or semi-annually type of uh uh billing. So but I think if uh if it's actually really required basically if a hundred hundred homes to have a clubhouse, and I think that's a good standard. There are fifty-nine. So that's it's uh obviously that's under. So I think a cabana should work now, but we need to probably stop this and move up. [1:51:53, 1:52:09]: We got plenty to talk about. So if we have no other conversations uh per se on this, this uh let's get to a point to have a uh a motion and a second and and see what we decide here as a collective group. So it's not I just want to make sure we are amenities. Excuse me. Are there any amenities? [1:52:10, 1:52:26]: Yeah, the amenity is the pool, right? And then there is um the and the playground and then there'll be um connected trail in the subdivision um that'll connect both sides'cause it's split, right, between the creek the creek. [1:52:27, 1:52:46]: Can I say something about the trail? We're willing to do the trail. Uh the material to build the trail will already be on site. It's not really an additional cost for us to build a trail. It's a big bonus for the first five years of the neighbors living there. The negative is that there may be some negative impact through the creek. [1:52:46, 1:53:06]: And I can't guarantee that the bridge gets built because if the whatever you tell me, I don't I don't I we'll pedestrian bridge with something. Yeah, we'll we'll have to do due diligence on on on whether that on that, but we can put it in as a condition. And if the um soil erosion and um all that comes. [1:53:06, 1:53:12]: come back clean, then we could implement it. So we probably need to put a um a what if on that. [1:53:12, 1:53:21]: Okay, well certainly you would interpret that and you would do the due diligence to see whether it was a f it was it could be a um feasible. Yes, sir. Our civil engineer will review it. [1:53:22, 1:53:23]: Okay, what about street lights? [1:53:25, 1:53:43]: Okay. All right. Well, I I think we're there now. So Miss Holiday, you got the first one. We got the street lights in there, the flock camera is already in there. Um we had talked about it. Uh Miss Barber, you didn't weigh in on the clubhouse or the or the cabana, you wanna weigh in before we move forward? [1:53:47, 1:53:50]: You don't you I'm saying you don't have a choice between the clubhouse or the cabana? [1:53:52, 1:53:55]: Huh? [1:53:57, 1:54:00]: I need to know which one to put in there. [1:54:05, 1:54:22]: Okay. All right. We're gonna go with the cabana since it's the consensus of the council. And Mr. Anderson or Miss Holliday, can you read back all the condition the con the additional conditions? The additional conditions that I have would be the five foot sidewalks, the cabana, the um hold on. [1:54:23, 1:54:26]: So then we're going back to the forefront. [1:54:27, 1:54:42]: Homes that are facing highway forty two are gonna be one hundred percent four-sided brick and that's gonna match the remainder of the subdivision. All fronts are going to be stacked stone, stuck all the other 80% stuck stacked stone, stucco or brick. [1:54:42, 1:54:53]: And you're going to have the water tables with three sides going from fifty percent to eighty percent. I don't know that I have anything additional. [1:54:54, 1:54:58]: Well you have the street lights on there and then the [1:54:59, 1:55:04]: And the trail and the tr and the bridge is in there too? The trail and the bridge is in there? [1:55:05, 1:55:15]: Yes, it's it's gonna this it's the the bridge is put Rum Creek is in there. But we're gonna ask you if uh over Wolf Creek. [1:55:16, 1:55:24]: If if it gets civil engineering approval. I thought you had to do some environmental study or something on that. If it gets civil if it get engineering approval. Okay. [1:55:30, 1:55:37]: That's fine. That's in your hands. Yes, that's in there. Okay. You gotta be able to watch it. [1:55:37, 1:55:53]: Showers. Restroom showers. Restroom and showers. Restrooms and showers. You don't have a hybrid. You don't have some kind of hybrid? A hybrid big four. [1:55:53, 1:56:13]: Yeah. I mean it's gonna have to be small. It's only fifty now, so it's small club outside, but something high so I'll send them to you tomorrow. Yeah, I don't want that. I don't want that. Deep real camera script for the just two. Right, we've got [1:56:13, 1:56:15]: Additional question from Ms. Gann. [1:56:16, 1:56:33]: Do you have something hybrid from the Kibana? I mean you know he's talking about just the over cover either open or closed. Good to my closed. I'm looking for something where I wouldn't be in the heat. Me personally. I just uh my thought process was I honestly don't see the need for it. I mean like [1:56:34, 1:56:37]: That's that's me, because I get an opinion like everybody else, right? So [1:56:38, 1:56:50]: Our community is made up of uh 42 houses and they're very similar construction qualities that we've just talked about. I mean there's almost no difference at all. And we have uh cabana and we have a pool. [1:56:51, 1:57:04]: And we have a big grassed area and no playground. So at least we're providing the playground. Um, which is I think there's two items that are required per the standards in this community. So I I would I would be [1:57:05, 1:57:07]: Very grateful if we could just build a cabana. [1:57:07, 1:57:23]: Okay. Well I'm I'm just looking for something a little bit more than just two bathrooms and a covering. That's why I asked. Maybe something with a little small kitchenette area that they can people can store. I mean you're talking about a pool area. So I was looking for like a a a [1:57:25, 1:57:41]: Not necessarily a meeting meeting big meeting room space, but more than just two bath um uh a his and hers, you know. I gotcha. They're pretty big. There'd be like multiple stalls in the bathroom. So there's two stalls in each bathroom and a shower. So it'd be two ladies [1:57:41, 1:57:47]: Two m um a urinal and a commode and a shower on the men's. [1:57:49, 1:57:55]: Oh, at this point I think we Miss Gand more I think uh Mr. Berry, you wanna you think we should get a clubhouse or no? [1:57:57, 1:58:17]: So we we'll require a small clubhouse. I used to live in Brush Arbor. It's in a city of McDonald's on the back side of this community. About five minutes away. We didn't have an indoor one. There's a hundred and fifty lots in that area. [1:58:17, 1:58:20]: And this is the conditions of approval. [1:58:21, 1:58:40]: Uh right. This is the conditions of approval. We want a s out staff, Ryan, you will work with the developer on developing what there is a small enclosed clubhouse with this along with the additional conditions. That that is condition. That is you read the other conditions right, Miss Holliday. That is the motion. [1:58:43, 1:58:53]: Small clubhouses determined appropriate by staff that they can meet in um and the staff will determine that to do the due diligence on what's necessary for fifty-nine homes. [1:58:57, 1:59:01]: You made that's the motion you're making. Yes. And now is there a second to that motion? [1:59:02, 1:59:03]: I second. [1:59:03, 1:59:09]: Ms. Gantt second that motion. Ms. Ryan, before we take vote, you got all that down, sir? Yes, sir. All right. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [1:59:12, 1:59:21]: Okay. You your agreement? Oh so no. Okay. All right. All righty. [1:59:23, 1:59:43]: All right, uh annexation case AX 2025-01 Council District 5. Consideration of a request for annexation using 100% annexation method of the property of 1448 and 1468 flipping road from unincorporated Henry County into the city limits, stop or city limits. Purpose to allow for a construction. [1:59:43, 2:00:03]: Of mixed residential development with townhomes and single-family detached homes. Property owners at 1448 Flippin' Road, William K. Rickert, and Brenda A. Rickert, property owners of 1468 Flippin' Road, Willard D. Gilbert, Applicant Landlorders of America, LLC, Agent Michael. [2:00:03, 2:00:23]: O'Kenner. The property is located landlots eleven and twelve of District Six contains twenty-one point seven seven seven one acres. And uh it says presented by uh Mr. Ryan Anderson. Then we also have a comprehensive plan amendment KCP dash two zero two five-01. [2:00:23, 2:00:33]: Council District five. Consideration request for a comprehensive plan amendment for a property of one four four eight and one four six eight Flippin' Road. [2:00:34, 2:00:54]: After the property is annexed into Stockbridge City limits, the property currently has a Henry County Future Land Use Designation, a medium density suburban. And the applicant requests that it be assigned to the city of Stockbridge future land use designation, a medium density residential purpose to allow for construction of a mixed residential development. [2:00:54, 2:01:14]: With townhomes and single-family detached homes. Property owners of 1448 Flippin' Road, William K. Rickert and Brenda A. Rickert, property owner of 1468 Flippin' Road, Willard D. Gilreth, applicant Land Buyers of America, LLC, Agent Michael Candor, Cannon. [2:01:14, 2:01:34]: Enter. The property is located landlots 11 and 12 of District 6 and contains 21.771 acres. Okay, and then rezoning case. RZ 2025-01 and Council District 5. Consideration request for rezoning of the property of one. [2:01:34, 2:01:54]: 1448-1468 Flippin' Road after the property is annexed into the Starbury City limits. The property city limits Flippin' Road. Okay, that the property is current Henry County Zoning District of RA Residential Arch architectural or not agricultural, excuse me. And the applicant [2:01:54, 2:02:14]: Requested the property be assigned to the City of Starbury Zoning District PUD Plan Unit Development, purpose to allow for the construction of mixed residential development with townhomes and single-family detached homes. Property owners of 1448 Flippin' Road, William K. Rickert and Brenda A. Rickert, property owner of 1468 Flippin' Road. [2:02:14, 2:02:28]: Willard D. Gilreth, applicant of land um buyers of America LLC, Agent Michael Kender. The property is located in land lots eleven and twelve of District Six and it contains twenty one point seven seven one acres. Mr. Anderson, please. [2:02:28, 2:02:48]: Good evening, Mayor. I'll present these three cases as one for the sake of time. Um it's three cases. Um the first case is as you previously stated, is to annex the property from unincorporated Herring County into the Stockbridge city limits. Uh on this case, the uh staff recommended approval and the planning commission. [2:02:48, 2:02:50]: [7370.4, 7386.0]: On the comp plan to change the property's future land use density from Heron County's residential suburban to the city of Stockbridge medium density residential, there were uh unanimous approval from the planning commission and from staff. Uh and I'll present the rezoning case. [2:03:09, 2:03:20]: Yeah, I'm gonna go fast. Uh here's a joint area photo for both fourteen forty eight and fourteen sixty eight flipping road. The the blue highlights on the area photo is the subject properties in question. [2:03:22, 2:03:26]: Here's a aerial another aerial photo of only fourteen forty eight flipping road. [2:03:28, 2:03:48]: Facts about the property. Um the the two lots is a total combined of twenty-one point seven acres. Uh the property is located on the west side of Flippin' Road, south of Surge Stone Lane and across from St. Ives Court. Currently the property is mostly vacant except for a single family home on each parcel. The current zoning is R.A. in Henry County. [2:03:48, 2:04:01]: and the future land use is Heron County's residential suburban. The proposed development consists of a mixed residential development with 120 townhomes and 31 single family detached units. [2:04:02, 2:04:18]: Uh the surrounding zoning you uh to the north of the subject properties you got suburban residential in the city of Stockbridge. To the west of the property, you got rural agricultural, which is located in unincorporated Henry County. Southwest of the property, you got single family residence. [2:04:20, 2:04:40]: In Henry County, unincorporated Henry County. To the south, you got rural agricultural and multifamily residential, unincorporated Henry County. Southeast of the property, you got a residential duplex, unincorporated Henry County. And to the east of the property, you got suburban residential and plan unit development, city of Stockbridge. Uh the county. [2:04:39, 2:04:43]: County land use designations once again is medium density suburban. [2:04:49, 2:04:55]: Here's the joint future land use map for 1448 and 1468 flipping ro flipping road. [2:04:57, 2:05:17]: Here's this joint zone in map both Henry County and City of Stockbridge combined. Here's the it entails the surrounding zone. You can see that this would not entail a spot zoning because there are similar uses in the area. Here's the boundary survey for both 1448 and 1468 flipping road. Once again, uh there's 316. [2:05:17, 2:05:37]: single is a mixed unit, mixed use development, 31 single family detached and 120 townhomes. The applicant is requesting zon rezoning the PUD. All units will have three bedrooms, two baths, and two car garages. The homes would have a size, a proposed size, between sixteen hundred to two thousand square feet with [2:05:37, 2:05:57]: Brick and hearted board facades. Proposed amenities, a pool with a clubhouse, a golf put in green, a tot lot, tennis or pickleball court, and a community sports field. Uh site plans. Two site plans were submitted, one colored and one black and white. Annexation and rezon and the title of the site plan was annexation and rezoning. [2:05:57, 2:06:00]: Plan for Hanover Park, prepare it for land buyers of America GA. [2:06:03, 2:06:23]: uh the site access of this proposed development. Um it will have access uh off a main boulevard off flipping road and in second access the short distance to the north. East east each access will have a deceleration lane. An internal street would encircle the site with a cross street near the center. Entrance along Flippin' Road [2:06:23, 2:06:43]: Behind the main project entrance will contain a clubhouse, a mail kiosk, and a parking lot with 15 spaces. The site interior will feature a pudding green, a top lot, 100%. [2:06:43, 2:07:03]: Or a pickleball court and a community sports field. The perimeter of the part of the property will contain a 25-foot-wide buffer. The home locations, the single-family detached homes, will be located along the outskirts of the site on the northern and western sides, while the townhomes will be located within the it interior of the site. Along the southern side, [2:07:03, 2:07:13]: of the site and near the cross street. Surge Stone Lane borders the property to the north. One large lot for a single family detached home will be located adjacent to the project entrance. [2:07:14, 2:07:34]: Setbacks would be 20 feet in the front yard, five feet in the in the side yards for single family lot, and zero in the side yard for townhome lots, and 20 feet in the rear yards for all lots. These setbacks are not required by the PU dist PUD districts, but they are proposed. PUD is a tailor, uh, is a district that is tailored. [2:07:34, 2:07:54]: Tailored and site plan can be conceptualized. And if the council votes to approve this, more than likely this will be adopted and based on the site plan and be conditioned on the site plan. And the distance between each townhome building is 20 feet. The parking, the applicant will provide four parking spaces for each of the proposed 151 residential units. [2:07:54, 2:07:57]: And there will be fifteen guest parking. [2:08:01, 2:08:03]: Here's a uh colored site plan. [2:08:07, 2:08:11]: Here's a color color site plan enlarged. You can see the light layouts. [2:08:14, 2:08:16]: There's a black and white side plan. Um [2:08:18, 2:08:27]: Here's the site plan overlaid on an area photo. It's most you can see the most of the wooded area, and this is the site plan intertwined into that. [2:08:34, 2:08:37]: So for the sake of time I'll just get to the staff's recommendation. Um [2:08:50, 2:09:10]: Okay. Staff's final conclusions. The proposed mixed use development would be well suited to the site, and the site plan would represent an attractive design with an ample number and variety of amenities. The the provision of two accesses into the site will be beneficial for fire and emergency vehicle, and it would reduce congestion at the project end. [2:09:10, 2:09:23]: Interests. The proposed amount of open space would exceed the amount that would be required. The proposed density setbacks and distance requirements between town home buildings are reasonable. Staff recommend approval. [2:09:25, 2:09:45]: With several conditions. Um condition number one, the probo the proposed mixed residential development shall be constructed according to a site plan, which is similar to the two companion site plan, which are titled Annexation and Rezoning Plan for Hanover Park prepared by L Land Buyers of America, LLC by Elite Engineer. [2:09:44, 2:10:04]: Project number is 24040 and it was dated 430, 2025. The site plan shall serve as the proposed developments PUD master plan. Project interests. We're asking that they have deceleration lanes and a 10-foot-wide sidewalk shall be provided along flipping road. [2:10:04, 2:10:24]: Further, if security gates are installed, flock cameras shall also be provided. Architectural design: the proposed home shall be constructed with styles and exterior materials which comply with the UDC standards. Property maintenance. An HOA or a property management company shall maintain all of the common areas of the [2:10:24, 2:10:27]: property in the common areas of the town homes. [2:10:28, 2:10:31]: So that's the um report. [2:10:32, 2:10:52]: Mayor. Yes, sir. You got some comments, sir? Yeah, a couple of things is that certainly uh we want a traffic signal there at that location. Okay. So that the traffic signal would line up uniformly with the same eyes, and then they would do everything possible to work with Henry County or the state to get that. Okay. Obviously we can't guarantee [2:10:52, 2:11:12]: that but certainly we want that to be a condition that staff would work diligently to have a signal there which would assist the residents because right now residents are having trouble getting out there. If there was a street light there that lined up to be a four-way, it certainly would uh allow them to do that. [2:11:12, 2:11:32]: specifically. Um this neighborhood here was uh brought forth and certainly uh the what you will see in the presentation and the discussions that we've had with the uh developer and with the community at large to see what the desire was. Uh there's all two car garages here. Uh certainly [2:11:32, 2:11:52]: we want to make sure that we had agreement that we would have uh the uh units would be three-size brick uh structures uh on them and that they would um and that we would uh want to make sure that we did that to be in keeping with what the products that we're seeing in the area. [2:11:52, 2:12:12]: area and a a nicer townhome that was 1800 square foot or or above uh for this particular development to make sure that it moved forward uh in in accordance with um excellence in every way because this includes uh some of the three-story townhomes [2:12:11, 2:12:31]: uh as well uh as a product that has not been kind of dirt from the area. So uh those that there's a lot of components here that were included and what you will see is uh what I've seen in the development that it's excellence and uh hopefully uh that it'll be reflected in the in the renderings and the presentation that you will see. [2:12:31, 2:12:37]: and especially the putting green and the amenities for the area are absolutely top-notch. Thanks. [2:12:38, 2:12:56]: Well, first of all, I mean that's fine. He can come up, that's fine. Any other initial questions for Ryan uh before we developer? Go right, please. I'm gonna yield and wait. Okay. All right. So be it. [2:12:57, 2:12:58]: I'm sorry, sir. [2:13:03, 2:13:23]: Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Mayor, Council, staff, and uh public. My name is Jonathan Jones. I'm with Elite Engineering and I represent land buyers of America for the proposed annexation and rezoning of approximately twenty-two acres to uh be brought into the city of Stockbridge. Um we know that one of the primary concerns for this development is the traffic and transportation. [2:13:23, 2:13:25]: transportation that's that's that's in this area. [2:13:26, 2:13:46]: We have already um ordered and in the process with a traffic engineer A and R to do a traffic study. Um Planning Commission requested that. We ordered it. They're not completed with it. It takes a little bit of time and you're not allowed to do counts when school's not out. So if we presented a traffic study when school's out, it wouldn't be representative of the real world. So [2:13:46, 2:14:02]: So we already have that in the works. We are proposing a parkway style entrance with two lanes in, two lanes out at the main intersection, which will parallel and be directly across from St. Ives. We want a traffic light as well. [2:14:03, 2:14:06]: We're putting in a left turn lane and deceleration lanes. [2:14:07, 2:14:11]: Um we hope that the traffic study and it should [2:14:11, 2:14:12]: Want [2:14:12, 2:14:13]: A [2:14:13, 2:14:33]: light at this location and ultimately it'll be Henry County DOT that will provide us approval to do so. But it is our desire and we want a traffic light just as much as the city would like to have one. As mentioned, we are proposing what we consider uh an amenity uh [2:14:33, 2:14:36]: that is resort style. Um [2:14:37, 2:14:41]: It's gonna have uh a minimum two thousand square foot clubhouse. [2:14:41, 2:14:46]: with a facade that will match or mirror uh uh much of the product within the community. [2:14:47, 2:14:49]: We're proposing four pickleballs. [2:14:49, 2:14:53]: A large putt putt green since St. Ives is across the road. [2:14:53, 2:14:54]: A large pool. [2:14:55, 2:14:58]: An open playing field that's centralized to the community. [2:14:58, 2:15:14]: We are providing greater than twenty percent of the open space, which is more than this required. We're providing a centralized mail kiosk so that when the people get home from work they can grab their mail conveniently and go to their homes rather than it be in the back or the side or whatever. [2:15:14, 2:15:17]: We're providing the required buffers all the way around the community. [2:15:18, 2:15:28]: Um our intent is to have two different detention ponds. One will be on the northwest and one will be on the northeast, discharging into the existing storm and creek systems. [2:15:28, 2:15:48]: Um planning commission discussed and recommended or asked about a perimeter fence. We would like to voluntarily stipulate a perimeter fence to go along with the perimeter buffer, both for the security of our residents and to improve the community to a higher standard. Um [2:15:48, 2:16:03]: We are going to do flock cameras at both entrances that hopefully can be tied into both your police department and Henry County's police department to help with any crime in the area and or uh violations that that are occurring. Um [2:16:04, 2:16:16]: We are proposing or or we are in agreement with a ten foot sidewalk across the entire frontage of the community and then five foot sidewalks on both sides of the interior of their community. [2:16:17, 2:16:20]: Um making sure I'm not missing anything. [2:16:22, 2:16:30]: One thing that I did want to uh mention is that the square footage of the homes, we intend to increase that square footage over what has been presented. [2:16:31, 2:16:49]: We will do a minimum of 2,400 square foot for your single family homes, and we'll do a minimum of 1,800 square foot for your town homes. All homes will be a minimum of three bedroom, but there'll be four bedrooms mixed throughout the community. Staff has recommended approval. Planning Commission recommended a unanimous approval. [2:16:50, 2:16:51]: And at this time I would [2:16:52, 2:16:55]: Like to show you the remainder of the presentation. [2:16:55, 2:17:01]: This shows uh the the product that we intend to to build from a single family standpoint. [2:17:02, 2:17:04]: Once again there's the site plan. [2:17:06, 2:17:08]: That's another version of site plan. [2:17:08, 2:17:12]: This is just redefining what we plan to do for the amenity itself, which [2:17:13, 2:17:20]: Just so you guys know, we're estimating this amenity to be somewhere between$850 and$900,000. So it is a resort style amenity. [2:17:21, 2:17:27]: Um the town homes we would like to do is a more modern look. Um it's something that [2:17:27, 2:17:40]: We feel price point wise is going to uh increase the values of the homes in this area. And it's a product that quite honestly pops marketability wise. It's what people want right now. [2:17:40, 2:17:47]: We also have uh another product where we have brick on the outsides and a mixture of hardy plank on the interiors. [2:17:47, 2:17:52]: As previously mentioned, all homes and town homes will have two car minimum. [2:17:54, 2:18:02]: And that is the conclusion of my presentation. I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have or I'll use the remainder of my time for rebuttal if necessary. [2:18:04, 2:18:05]: Questions, Councilman? [2:18:06, 2:18:26]: I I appreciate the presentation. Certainly I and um the one thing that I want to talk about is as was mentioned previously that we were able to add the single family detached homes and the neighborhoods adjacent to this will not be backing up to town homes, they will be backing up to single [2:18:26, 2:18:32]: Yes sir. And I apologize for not mentioning that. Yes, sir. One of the things that [2:18:33, 2:18:53]: We intentionally try to do is is safeguard and pro and provide buffer for the people to the north and to the west, um, because they are single family homes or agricultural uses. So um my presentation's large, I shouldn't have closed it, and I apologize for that. Um but we have um thirty-one s uh single family homes that will be along the north and western property. Um [2:18:53, 2:19:13]: And uh a a buffer along both those areas. So uh our intent is to not put a town home next to a single family home. I wouldn't want that, you wouldn't want that, and so we intentionally avoided that. Um in any home that is visible from flipping road, we agree to do four side brick. Okay, stand by. [2:19:12, 2:19:25]: A second. You want you want your presentation back up, sir? Um yeah. If you can't get Demetrius, can you help him get this on? Do I no? It's on here, yeah. I I I clicked it, but I think it's too big. It's [2:19:25, 2:19:26]: It's trying to open. [2:19:29, 2:19:35]: You get some assistance. There we go. Okay. I'll go back to the site plan so that I can [2:19:49, 2:19:51]: Next time I'll leave it up. [2:19:51, 2:19:54]: Sorry about that guys. I apologize for that. [2:20:06, 2:20:08]: Okay. So [2:20:09, 2:20:10]: Units [2:20:15, 2:20:21]: It's a little slow, isn't it? Come on, we got better fiber down here, man. What's up? [2:20:22, 2:20:42]: So units forty-two, which is the last unit on the west side, all the way around to unit seventy-one, those are all proposed to be single family. Um they abut uh about six or eight homes to the north, and then to the west is a an estate with um couple family residents. Um and so [2:20:42, 2:20:59]: Our intent was to not provide uh not produce any, you know, or or limit the negative impact by anything done by this property or community. So we did single families all the way around the perimeter to try to help safeguard that situation, along with some additional open space and buffers. Um so [2:21:01, 2:21:07]: I'll be happy to. Right. And as you said, the houses that are facing um Flip and Row would be a hundred percent brick. [2:21:07, 2:21:22]: Yes, sir. Anything that is visible. So we we don't have a lot of visibility to flip and road. Lot one would be a four-sided brick. That'll probably be the model home, to be frank with you. Um and then 71, 72, and two. [2:21:23, 2:21:43]: We would we would brick those so that the facades match and and only thing you can see from Flippin' Road would be brick facades. You would you would you right everything on the sides as we done with the other neighborhoods would be visible. Any home visible from Flippin' Road would be full-sided brick. Right. And then the town homes is the same thing as we were well the town homes. [2:21:43, 2:21:47]: themselves are gonna be three sides brick the the three [2:21:47, 2:21:50]: Ді інтенфере таунхом з тобі. [2:21:50, 2:21:53]: The product that is similar to this product. [2:21:54, 2:22:14]: And or the best product where we're going to be able to do that. There will be a four computer and then you brick the outside. Yeah. That's correct. That's correct. The interiors may have a a mixture of right, right, right. But but the from from the all standpoint there will be on the end points. Yes, the end caps. That is correct. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Thank you. Yes sir. [2:22:14, 2:22:16]: Ms. Barber Goya, please. [2:22:19, 2:22:31]: So um I like the designs of the three story townhomes. It's just that my district is saturated with townhomes, so I'm a little hesitant. [2:22:31, 2:22:39]: Understand. So Yeah, and th these will be a mix of two and three. And what what we're finding is is when you mix them. [2:22:39, 2:22:49]: It makes the product pop. I mean if you've got a two-story and then a three-story and a three-story and a two-story, it just gives it so much three-dimensional appeal. And frankly, [2:22:49, 2:22:58]: Marketability-wise, they sell really good. Um, the end caps typically sell first, and whatever the three-story is sells next, and that's just how it goes. So [2:22:58, 2:23:09]: Um, so I know during the presentation from our community development director, he mentioned if security gates are installed. [2:23:10, 2:23:15]: Flock cameras would be required. So So flock cameras f flock cameras are mandatory. [2:23:16, 2:23:20]: Thank you. I just wanted to make sure that was clear. [2:23:20, 2:23:24]: Yeah, they are so but they're man mandatory according to new standards. [2:23:25, 2:23:35]: Um so my other question regarding the two entrances. You mentioned about the red light being installed. [2:23:35, 2:23:39]: I'm curious to know where that red light. [2:23:39, 2:23:44]: If you can't get it, you can't. [2:23:45, 2:23:46]: Um [2:23:46, 2:23:48]: Our parkway entrance. So [2:23:48, 2:23:55]: Uh let me see if I can it it would be where my cursor is. Here's St. Ives coming out. Mm-hmm. And then we have a parkway style. [2:23:56, 2:24:12]: So we would end up installing and building a left turn lane here into our community. And at that location right there where we connect with St. Ives, at that location, it would be a signalized intersection if Henry County agrees with our warrant study. [2:24:13, 2:24:14]: Um and I'm [2:24:14, 2:24:17]: fairly certain that warrant study's gonna come back saying that a signal's needed. [2:24:19, 2:24:20]: Okay. [2:24:21, 2:24:26]: So there are two entrancy entrants to this Y yes, ma'am. [2:24:26, 2:24:41]: Can you show me where the other is? Yes, ma'am. The other one is just to the north. It's really just in case there was some sort of catastrophe or some reason that this entrance is blocked. There's a opportunity for the residents to enter and exit to the north. It is a ride in, right out. [2:24:41, 2:25:01]: Because you can't have two full entrances within a 660-foot spacing. So it meets the requirement for a ride-in, ride out, and that's what we're proposing at that location. Any additional entrances to the south would impact the creek negatively. So we tried to avoid as much we could the impact to that stream that's at that location. [2:25:01, 2:25:13]: There's currently an existing pipe that catches the water and then takes it across over towards the golf course. So we'd intend to install a pipe system that'll connect to theirs and just carry that water as it's always went. [2:25:14, 2:25:15]: Okay. Yes, ma'am. [2:25:15, 2:25:20]: One other question I have and I did speak with [2:25:21, 2:25:32]: The young lady yesterday. Um just curious. So the backside of this proposed development. [2:25:32, 2:25:38]: Is there not opportunities to extend a road? I'm just trying to figure out [2:25:38, 2:25:42]: another access point other than Flippin' Road. [2:25:42, 2:25:46]: I gotcha. Where we might in the future or perhaps with this [2:25:47, 2:26:07]: Development. To be honest with you, the only physical option would be to try to connect to the neighborhood to the north, which I don't think they would appreciate. And if you look, it's fairly hard to tell, but we do not physically touch their right-of-way. So it would require their approval, it would require y'all's approval. [2:26:06, 2:26:17]: And we would end up having to purchase some property to make that access. Um, that's why we opted to go with two along our frontage because it's a more direct and and [2:26:17, 2:26:33]: in and out and that that quite honestly would in my opinion be a negative impact to that community. I wouldn't want these residents coming out through my neighborhood. I get that they're gonna come out beside my neighborhood, but that's just my opinion. To the west is is a really large estate. [2:26:33, 2:26:37]: Um I think there's two or three very large homes on that property. [2:26:37, 2:26:42]: I doubt very seriously they want us to connect to'em. And to the south there's one single family home. [2:26:43, 2:26:43]: Um [2:26:44, 2:26:47]: These people I think used to be [2:26:47, 2:26:53]: either family members or friends because there was some property trading which created this little nook of land. [2:26:54, 2:27:11]: Since then, these people I do not think have any relationship with the sellers of the property that we're looking to do business with. So unfortunately, I'm fearful that those two entrances are probably the best options that we have. Um, if staff [2:27:12, 2:27:23]: wants us to entertain other options, we do not mind it. We have evaluated it and realistically coming through that neighborhood might be the only option and I don't think that's quite honestly a very good option. [2:27:24, 2:27:24]: Yeah. [2:27:25, 2:27:26]: Uh yes, sir. Go ahead, please. [2:27:27, 2:27:45]: One more the one more condition. I wasn't finished. I wasn't. Okay. One more question. So I wanted to um thank you. Yes, ma'am. Thank you for that. I wanted to ask, um, can you decrease the amount of town homes and increase the amount of single family homes? [2:27:46, 2:27:53]: So quite honestly, when we when we started this project, it was it was all townhomes until we met with staff in the community. [2:27:54, 2:27:55]: And [2:27:55, 2:28:02]: We reduced it from one hundred and seventy one units to one hundred and sixty three units to one hundred and fifty nine units to one hundred and fifty one units. And [2:28:04, 2:28:05]: At this point. [2:28:05, 2:28:06]: Unfortunately [2:28:07, 2:28:09]: In order to make the [2:28:09, 2:28:11]: Deal work financially. [2:28:11, 2:28:15]: This is the number of units with that style of an amenity. [2:28:15, 2:28:35]: Um, now can we eliminate some amenity and reduce? We could, but I don't think that's a I don't think that's a win win for the community. And my developer prefers to spend the money on this amenity to lure his people there till they buy quality homes in a community where you do not have to leave to go elsewhere. You can [2:28:35, 2:28:36]: Mm. [2:28:36, 2:28:44]: Work out there, you can swim there, you can bike there, you can putt-putt, you can do whatever you want there and not have to exit. So [2:28:44, 2:28:59]: You know, that that was the idea about it. We tried to create some open space pockets on the interior so that each resident is not walking out the back door looking at somebody else's back door. So we feel like we've [2:29:00, 2:29:03]: adjusted the density as best we can considering [2:29:04, 2:29:16]: what the topography, the creek and the the options we had to us to to to to try to make work. So it has been reduced quite a bit, uh over over twenty units already. [2:29:17, 2:29:21]: Um so the single family homes. [2:29:21, 2:29:27]: What's the square foot? Minimum twenty four hundred square foot. Twenty four hundred. Yes, ma'am. [2:29:27, 2:29:47]: Thank you. That's all I have. Yes, ma'am. Thank you, ma'am. I miss out. Go ahead, please. Yeah, certainly. And uh they go up to twenty the square footy starts at twenty four hundred and goes up to uh yes, sir. That's correct. Minimum twenty four hundred. Yes, sir. They'll most likely be in that twenty eight hundred to three thousand easily. Three thousand. Let's try to go ahead and yeah, I'm certain they will. Yeah, and I and certainly in discussion. [2:29:47, 2:30:07]: With your team, I think you know there was some cons con uh some concern about the traffic issues. We know we can't make the decisions on traffic, but I think what was said was that uh there was could be a condition added that no one would move in before the Western parallel connector was [2:30:07, 2:30:27]: actually finished and it'll be finished next year uh by November. So if you start your ca pre construction, go through the zoning process and all of that, nobody would actually be moving into the neighborhood until like December or of twenty twenty seven or something. I mean of of uh of twenty twenty six or January [2:30:27, 2:30:47]: 2026. Fourth quarter 26, most likely, first quarter 27. If the project stays on track, it should we should be three to five months after it's open. So we feel confident of that. If that's a stipulation and that needs to be placed by council, we would accept that. Right, because what that does is that when the when the Western Parallel Connector opens, what's going to [2:30:47, 2:31:07]: Going to happen is that traffic, a lot of that traffic that's you know, will be able to take go directly from Hudson Bridge Road down to Joe Jodico Road, down to Jonesboro Road, and then the county is already extending Flippin' Road down to Jonesboro Road. They're extending also they're reopening Dutch. [2:31:07, 2:31:27]: So infrastructure projects are happening all over the place in order for us to make sure that we're dealing with the traffic. But that would must have to be a condition that at that point, so everybody would be comfortable that nothing's gonna happen intimate. I mean uh imminent that the late 2026, early 2027, when the parallel [2:31:27, 2:31:47]: Connector opens. That is correct. And AR, who is our traffic engineer, already met with Henry County DOT and they made them abreast of all of the projects and the timing. And we've already laid the groundwork that we really want a signal at this location. They said we really want a signal at this location too. Now whether that's going to happen, [2:31:47, 2:32:05]: happen or not, that's that's what we what we are hoping for, intending to do and want. Yeah, I think we can talk with the commissioner in that area. I think we can pretty much typically pull the air. Thank you. Final problem. [2:32:06, 2:32:12]: You have any questions, sir? Anybody else? Okay, so this is this is a this is a public hearing. So [2:32:13, 2:32:23]: This is a public hearing, so I'm gonna open this up. Uh so any comments for this project in my far left? Any any comments for the project in my far in the middle? [2:32:24, 2:32:26]: A far right. Any comments. Come on up, ma'am. [2:32:27, 2:32:30]: This is comments for the project, right? Comments comments for. [2:32:30, 2:32:32]: Positive comment four. [2:32:32, 2:32:35]: Okay. And name and n sure, name and address, please. [2:32:35, 2:32:55]: Okay, my my name is Monica Howard and I live at thirty-seven seventy-eight Highway one fifty-five North Stockbridge, Georgia. Okay. Okay. And please understand I have high anxiety public speaking, so don't start that clock yet until I explain. [2:32:55, 2:33:02]: Explain to y'all, I am here to I represent the sellers, but I work with the buyers. So [2:33:04, 2:33:19]: I typed up everything, I made notes tonight, listening to everything. So tell me when you're ready to start. Take your time. Go ahead and read. Okay. Good evening council members and thank you for allowing me to speak this evening. [2:33:20, 2:33:40]: I would first like to introduce myself. My name is Monica Howard and I have lived in Henry County for 35 plus years. My husband and I bought our first and only home in Stockbridge. My husband also attended Stockbridge High School from 1974 to 1979 when he graduated. [2:33:40, 2:33:55]: Our daughters also graduated from Union Grove in 2011 and 13. I'm telling you this because I hope it will give me merit and credence to what I have to say. I represent the sellers and the sell of these two properties. [2:33:57, 2:33:58]: I would like to speak [2:33:59, 2:34:06]: A bit about them. William and Brenda Reichert owned fourteen forty eight Flippin' Road. [2:34:07, 2:34:09]: They built their home in nineteen eighty three. [2:34:10, 2:34:13]: They are longtime members of this community. [2:34:13, 2:34:16]: The Rikers are in need of selling their home. [2:34:16, 2:34:27]: Several years ago, and this is truly true, you can I'll verify it for you, mister Riker had a horrible accident that resulted in him having a severe brain injury injury. [2:34:27, 2:34:34]: Um it resulted in him having two operations. Mr. Rikert is now seventy eight years old. [2:34:35, 2:34:38]: And cannot even begin to care. [2:34:39, 2:34:43]: And take care of the home and land. Actually, I didn't even put this in my notes. [2:34:45, 2:35:01]: But Brenda, the wife, cannot really take care of me. He's kind of staying with relatives within five miles of there. I hate to interrupt before I say, just to make sure. The green light is on. Is it green look down at the mic. Is the green light on? Yes, ma'am. Okay. Yes, sir. It is on. Okay. Yes. All right, go ahead, please. [2:35:01, 2:35:03]: He is completely disabled. [2:35:03, 2:35:07]: misses Rikert is seventy one years old and cannot take care of the home and the land. [2:35:09, 2:35:29]: Oh oh okay, thank you. Sorry. Um, is seventy one years old and cannot take care of the home and the land. The property at fourteen sixty eight is the estate of Willard Gilreth. Mr Gilreth and his wife passed away a few years ago. Their daughter, Michelle Jones, is the executor of their estate. [2:35:29, 2:35:29]: Mm-hmm. [2:35:30, 2:35:43]: Mrs. Jones has been a longtime school teacher in the Henry County School System. She started in nineteen ninety-four and is currently at Hampton Elementary and Rocky Creek. [2:35:44, 2:35:47]: elementary teaching English to [2:35:47, 2:35:57]: non English students. misses Jones also needs to sell this house and land. She would like to finish probating and close the estate. [2:35:57, 2:36:01]: Council members, this property has been listed for sale for two years. [2:36:01, 2:36:03]: Е, на кен ашурію. [2:36:03, 2:36:04]: There are really [2:36:04, 2:36:06]: Not any buyers out there. [2:36:07, 2:36:09]: Wanting to live on acreage in that area. [2:36:10, 2:36:30]: People looking for acreage are more looking in the rural areas. I know I have been a realtor in this county for twenty-five years. Not a real estate agent, I'm a realtor. The only viable resolution is to sell to a builder or developer. Upon approaching and I approach the [2:36:30, 2:36:38]: The builders and developers. I explained in great thousand that this property would have to be built into a community that would offer. [2:36:39, 2:36:42]: People moving to the county that wanted to move to the county. [2:36:43, 2:36:58]: with amenities, open spaces, activities, garage parking, etcetera. I did not want to waste my sellers or any potential buyers' time by trying to rezone and build cheaply built housing with no [2:36:59, 2:37:00]: Little to no amenities. [2:37:01, 2:37:21]: I believe this buyer has met the request. This community will have two entries and exits. There's a beautiful pool and a large clubhouse. There will be four pickleball courts, open spaces, families to enjoy and kids to play. There's a pudding green, which is ideal since there is a golf course right there. [2:37:20, 2:37:39]: Perhaps even in a membership deal could be worked out with the community HOA and the golf course, and I would be glad to have that, you know, it's part of Eagles Landing. There are sidewalks and plenty of listing or lighting. This community meets the standards of the area. [2:37:39, 2:37:55]: The buyer has agreed to all of the stipulations requested by the planning committee, first and foremost to do a traffic count and to try to get the county DOT to install traffic light at the new entrance [2:37:55, 2:38:15]: And exactly across from Sound I St. Ives. This would benefit the people living in both communities and help with the flow of traffic. Who knows? Perhaps at some point, and I've mentioned this to a couple of the commissioners, at some point, who knows that from I-75 to Hudson Bridge. [2:38:15, 2:38:35]: Could eventually be double laned, and there is room for that. I've checked, I look at everything on those. But as soon as you come on there, it could be double-laned. I'm asking that you please approve the request made this evening. My clients, and I'm speaking for the sellers, my clients deserve the right. [2:38:35, 2:38:55]: Right to sell their properties and move forward in their lives. One of these properties is already vacant, and the other one soon could be. This only encourages vandalism and illegal activities, which is not wanted. Think about this, which is not wanted. Okay? Just a few. [2:38:55, 2:38:57]: Doors down at fifteen ten. [2:38:59, 2:39:01]: At fifteen ten flippin road. [2:39:06, 2:39:26]: Well go ahead ma'am. I'm sorry. Um just down a few doors at 1510 Flippin' Road. The house there burned down a few years ago. It did. The entrance has been blocked off, but people still get in there. I know, I've walked the land. There is garbage. [2:39:26, 2:39:40]: Garbage, abandoned cars, and drug paraphernalia. And I will be glad to escort y'all on any of that to show you the land. My clients do not want this to happen to their property. Please, please, I am asking you [2:39:41, 2:39:45]: To approve these requests that are being made this evening. This beautiful community. [2:39:46, 2:39:46]: That they are [2:39:47, 2:40:00]: initiating will only appeal to the city of Stockbridge. Thank you for your time, but I again am a thirty five year resident of this county and I'm not speaking just as a realtor. [2:40:01, 2:40:20]: I am watching this county grow and I'm encouraging it. But I want it to grow in a positive manner because we're we're one of the top counties growing in the entire country. Okay, and I don't know if y'all look at your numbers and you know that, but I'm a very serious realtor. [2:40:20, 2:40:22]: And what comes in [2:40:22, 2:40:42]: to the community has to be attractive because people are moving from other areas, but they want to move to a place that has got everything they I don't know, you know the Italian oven. Bobby owns that. It's it's an it's a small establishment, but it's home owned. But everybody knows it. Um seraphino's [2:40:42, 2:41:02]: Gad owns that but is a single establishment, but he knows all the residents, especially in the Eagles Landing community. Um Gerard runs the Outback. People get to go and know people here, okay? Um and this this is the community. [2:41:02, 2:41:20]: I I live in this area. I support this area. And I'm asking y'all to really consider this. I did not solicit any D.R. Horton people or cookie cutter people because this this community, this area [2:41:21, 2:41:41]: I wouldn't accept it, so I wouldn't expect y'all to accept it. We really feel you. We really do. We we we really feel you and we we we got ya. We we definitely feel your sentiment as a thirty-four year resident. Thirty five thirty-five year resident. You've seen a lot and you your perspective really adds a lot to the conversation. So we really [2:41:41, 2:42:01]: Thank you, Councilman Alexander. And I apologize, but I'll let y'all go. But just thank you for taking time. Appreciate you. Are there any other comments for from go ahead, man? Go ahead. No, you're fine. Please have a seat. Please have a seat. Are there any comments for this development on this side, my far right side? Any comments against this development? [2:42:01, 2:42:04]: [9724.5, 9735.1]: My far left. Any comments against. Okay, that public hearing piece will be closed out. Uh any other questions, counsel, did you may have for Mr. Addison or the uh developer here? [2:42:16, 2:42:18]: If not. [2:42:18, 2:42:38]: I'd like to go ahead and make a motion. I gotta read it first, sir. Hold on a second. All right. Annexation case AX two zero two five-01 Council District 5. Consideration and request of an annexation using 100% annexation method of the property at 1448 or 1468 Flippin' Road. [2:42:38, 2:42:58]: from unincorporated Henry County into the Stockbridge City limits. Purpose to allow for the construction of mixed residential development within townhomes and single family detached homes. Property owners of 1448 Flippin' Road, William K. Rickert, and Brenda A. Rickert, property owner of 1468 Flippin' Road, Willard D. Gilrith. [2:42:58, 2:43:15]: Applicant land buyers of America LLC Agent Michael Canner. The property is located at Land Lots eleven and twelve of District Six and contains twenty one point seven seven one acres. All right. Uh council, I need a motion uh to for this annexation, please. [2:43:15, 2:43:17]: Just a second. [2:43:18, 2:43:18]: That's it. [2:43:18, 2:43:27]: All fair, please indicate. Mayor Ford, I do have one question though. The traffic signal, is that a condition, a requirement for this project? [2:43:27, 2:43:37]: Yeah, but we can't but we don't have control over the traffic signal. Uh Henry County uh DOT will have to review the s the results of the study from the traffic study to see if it's warranted. [2:43:39, 2:43:40]: But I mean, [2:43:40, 2:43:48]: Yeah, yeah, and here in Canada we'll make a determination on whether it meets the threshold for a traffic light. [2:43:48, 2:44:08]: But the study is already yeah, it's done. They're waiting on the results from uh um Henry County to make a decision. But that's not something I'd like to make it one, but this this is the annexation, so it's not the time for that. Oh, but certainly I'd like to be one I I would like it to be one to say that's our goal. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yes, sir. Yeah. Once again the motion has been made to say [2:44:08, 2:44:13]: Second and all in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:44:14, 2:44:34]: Comprehensive Plan Amendment K CP 2025-01, Council District 5. Consideration request for a comprehensive plan amendment for property at 1448 and 1468 Flippin' Road. After the property has been annexed into Starbury City limits, the property currently has a Henry County Future Land Use Designation, a minimum minimum density surplus. [2:44:33, 2:44:47]: Suburbering. An applicant requests that it be assigned to the city of Stoppery's future land use designation medium density residential, purpose to allow for construction of mixed residential development within townhomes and single-family detached homes. [2:44:48, 2:45:08]: Property owners of 1448 Flippin' Road, William K. Rickard, and Brenda A. Rickard, property owner of 1468 Flippin' Road, Willard D. Gilrith. Applicant Land Buyers of America LLC, Agent Michael Canner. The property is located at Land Lots 11 and 12 of District 6, and it contains 21.771 acres. Council I need a motion to [2:45:08, 2:45:09]: Fourth, please. [2:45:10, 2:45:11]: Some move. Is there a second? [2:45:12, 2:45:21]: So this is the con this is the This is the plan amendment. Comprehensive plan amendment. Comprehensive plan amendment. Second. Okay, for Ms. Gantton, Mr. Alzheimer's offer to present okay. Now it's decision. Okay. [2:45:23, 2:45:33]: Thank you for that. Rezoning case RZ two zero two five-01 Council District 5. Consideration request for rezoning of the property of 1448 or 1 f and 1468. [2:45:34, 2:45:38]: Flipping roll after the property's been annexed in the style city limits. The property current [2:45:38, 2:45:58]: Property's current Henry County Zoning District is RA Residential Agricultural, and the applicant requests that the property be assigned to the City of Stopbury Zoning District PUD Plan Unit Development. Purpose to allow for the construction of a mixed residential development with townhomes and single-family detached homes. Property owners of 1448 Flippin' Road and [2:45:58, 2:46:18]: William K. Rickard and Brenda A. Rickard, property owners of 1468 Flippin' Road, William D. Gilrith. Applicant Land Buyers of America LLC, Agent Michael Canner. Property is located in land lots 11 and 12 of District 6 and contains 21.771 acres. Council, I need a motion for this as well, please. Mayor, I need the conditions to be [2:46:18, 2:46:27]: be read. Um I want to read those into the record. Uh the additional conditions that were added and uh yeah. [2:46:27, 2:46:47]: Yeah. Go ahead, Mr. Addison. I I was saying um it's best that we have the applicant s submit a um a future um another site plan in the future with the zoning conditions located on the front page of the site plan with all the conditions we have. So he will need to submit a new site plan. Is there a time limit for that? [2:46:47, 2:47:05]: Um before w before this could be executed, he w he would need to submit a new site plan. And needs to be part of the motion and uh yes sir, because uh on all PUD zoning um is conditioned automatically on the site plan. So the current site plan doesn't reflect all the changes that council is proposing. [2:47:05, 2:47:25]: Okay. So Ms. Alison, you willing to do that? Yes, certainly that would be appropriate to make sure that every last one of these in here. So I want to make sure that the clerk or you read the um additional language that was added, especially the brick and all of that that was added. Uh and then we have the ten foot multi use path along Flippin' Road and then [2:47:25, 2:47:29]: And the additional requirement now is the street lights too, right? [2:47:44, 2:47:56]: Right, all the five foot d right, that's that's that is that Yes, uh we we have that as condition number two in the staff report. Uh deceleration lanes and a ten foot wide sidewalk shall be provided along flipping road. [2:47:58, 2:48:01]: Sir, and then could the um could the uh applicant come back up? [2:48:06, 2:48:26]: Yes, that's gonna be one of the conditions that we're gonna endeavor with the traffic study and everything to encourage and take every step possible to get that traffic light. If they say no, I don't think they're going to because we're gonna talk to the county and try to make that happen. We certainly want that to be one of the conditions uh to go along with this along with the street lights. [2:48:26, 2:48:33]: But see I'm gonna be so forward thinking that we're gonna get this street light. [2:48:34, 2:48:54]: I want to be so forward thinking as to say we're going to get this street light. And when you get the street light, I don't want any wooden poles up there. We want the black mass post arm signals and the black um crosswalks. Now we're doing that down at the flippin' road development. So when the strict the signal is proposed, we don't want wooden poles. [2:48:54, 2:49:02]: And wires. We want the black metal mass post arm signals and then the black crosswalk indicators there, too. [2:49:02, 2:49:17]: We are on board a hundred percent as long as Henry County allows that product. We we would rather it be the highest product available too. We're doing a million dollar amenity. We want to do the best too, yes sir. Absolutely, Miss Holliday. That'll be another condition. [2:49:17, 2:49:18]: Yes, ma'am. [2:49:28, 2:49:34]: the w the well there'll be metals the the there will be metal. Yeah. As well and that will match the black mass post on signal. [2:49:35, 2:49:55]: think they call it black ornamental street uh lights is what they along the two foot we're amenable to that we want to put the best in there too. All right thank you. Yes sir. Uh the the applicant says that he can submit or resubmit a new site plan on by tomorrow with all his own conditions on the front page. Okay. Well let's go fantastic. So the condition um [2:49:55, 2:49:58]: Upon the applicant resubmitting a new site plan with the zoning conditions on. [2:50:00, 2:50:05]: That would be okay. With all that, then Mr. Avazan, are you ready to make a motion? Yes, so moved. Okay, is there a second? [2:50:05, 2:50:12]: My second. All right, all in favor, please indicate. It's announced decision. Thank you very much. Outstanding. Look forward for this uh coming to our community. [2:50:13, 2:50:14]: New business. [2:50:15, 2:50:35]: Ordinance of two amend the requirements for the issuance of occupational tax certificates, business licenses citywide. Consideration of new Title IX, Chapter 1, Section 260 A and B to be added to Stockbridge Code of Ordinances to repeal and replace the existing section. The Henry County Tax Assessors Office requested uh that at the city that the city create [2:50:35, 2:50:51]: this new ordinance to prevent businesses from receiving an occupational tax certificate, business license or regulatory license if they have not first paid their Annalorum taxes or personal property taxes. It says uh you Mr. Ryan, but I see we got the ladies up to do this. [2:50:52, 2:50:56]: Business services staff. Okay, all right. In this special. [2:50:57, 2:51:17]: Nice seeing you guys too. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. So um back in I wanna say it was late April, early May, um the tax commissioner, Michael Harris, decided to get all four cities along with the county so that we can do some topics. [2:51:17, 2:51:37]: type of um parallel things together. And one of those things that they wanted to do was one of the things that we're bringing to you tonight. Now unfortunately I wasn't at the meeting because I was on vacation, but Stephanie was at the meeting, and that is to add um 9.01 for occupational tax. [2:51:37, 2:51:41]: And so what the county is trying to do, how do I move this? [2:51:41, 2:52:01]: What they want to do is make a requirement that any new business that I'm sorry, existing business that is um already here, if they owe personal property tax to the county, that we wouldn't give them the upcoming year occupational tax. One of the things that they did bring. [2:52:01, 2:52:21]: To our attention is that there's over$353,000 that is owed in personal property tax, and about 10% of that would come to the city. So what they want to do moving forward is to get all four cities to join them in the effort to make sure that these businesses pay the [2:52:21, 2:52:41]: Their personal property tax. And if they don't pay their personal property tax, then we would not give them their occupational tax at that time to try to encourage them to also pay their personal property tax to the county. And I just want to stress from both Lynn and Cal. [2:52:41, 2:52:58]: Kathy from the county, they're going to send these documents to us once a week to let us know who hasn't paid. And there is about ten percent of that that do come to us on an annual basis. Okay. Okay. [2:52:59, 2:53:00]: All right, so questions, council? [2:53:00, 2:53:02]: Mayor. Yes, Mayor. [2:53:02, 2:53:15]: I uh uh there's no question. I think it's tip for a tap. So I would like to make a motion um to approve this ordinance to amend the requirements for issuance of occupational uh certif certificates and business license. [2:53:15, 2:53:21]: Consideration of the new Title Nine, Chapter O one, Section two sixty A and B. [2:53:22, 2:53:35]: To be added to the stop breach code of ordinances to repel and replace the existing section. Second, Mr Berry from Gantter Berry, all favor, please indicate unnounced decision. Thank you, ladies. Thank you so much. All right. Fantastic. [2:53:36, 2:53:56]: Ordinance to amend chapter 5.6 cemetery section 5.6.070 cemetery regulations. City of Starbury Cemetery and City City Burke Cemetery to add section A. Interments and Disinterments prohibited on a specific city of Starbury Cemetery Department holidays and any holidays slash closure observed by the city of Starbury. [2:53:55, 2:53:57]: Miss Holliday, please. [2:53:57, 2:54:17]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. This is an ordinance um change where if we're going to change the cemetery section five point one six point zero seven oh. We are going to add el where we will list the holidays and closings for the city of Stockbridge and there will be no interments or disinterments on those days. [2:54:17, 2:54:21]: Good deal. Okay. Questions, council. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. [2:54:21, 2:54:41]: I'd like to make a motion to approve this ordinance to amend chapter five point one six cemetery section five point one six um zero seven zero cemetery regulation city of Stockbridge Cemetery and City Burke Cemetery to add section A interments of disinterments prohibited on specified city Stockbridge Cemetery Department holidays. [2:54:41, 2:54:46]: Ms. Berry seconded again from Ms. Ganttham. Ms. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. Unanimous season. Thank you. [2:54:47, 2:54:48]: Thank you. [2:54:48, 2:55:08]: Uh council consideration approved contract renewal invitation to bid ITB number sixteen RFP one zero one two six excuse one excuse me R16 RFP one zero one two one six DDR American Tank Maintenance LLC Full Service Tank Maintenance Program in [2:55:08, 2:55:28]: Amount of 100 uh 61,419 dollars. Funding is sources from the water department budgeted funds. Ms. Darren, please. Yes, Ms. Mayor and Council. The city is required by the federal EPA and the Georgia EPD to have a uh water tank maintenance program and agreement. And so we're coming before you tonight to ask you to approve. [2:55:28, 2:55:48]: The renewal of our agreement with United with American Tank Maintenance LLC. They have been a great partner with the city. In fact, they saved us over$10,000 last week. The lightning struck our collector for our AMI metering system, and a vendor wanted$10,000 to get up and uh remove it so we can. [2:55:48, 2:56:05]: replace it and they were here to service our water tank and they went up and did it as part of their their maintenance with us. So we we enjoy the relationship we have with them. They've been great service to us and we want to go ahead and ask mayor and council to allow us to renew this contract. [2:56:05, 2:56:07]: Okay, great. Questions, Council? [2:56:07, 2:56:27]: Um so it's been placed out for bid in prior or is it So this uh when I first got here we there are two companies in Georgia, United Tank Maintenance, which is headquartered in Perry. American Tank Maintenance is former employees of United Tank Maintenance that started their own company. So it's only two companies. Okay, this will be the [2:56:27, 2:56:30]: the fourth renewal and a six year contract that we have. [2:56:31, 2:56:51]: Right, thank you. Mayor? Yes, ma'am. Um, I'd like to appro make a motion to approve council's consideration of the contract renewal to bid ITB number sixteen RFP one zero one two one six DRR, American Tank Maintenance LLC for full service tank maintenance program in the amount of sixty one thousand four hundred and nineteen dollars. [2:56:51, 2:56:51]: [10612.0, 10620.8]: Only a second. Sir. Mr. Alexander second that from Gamda Alexander Armfair please indicate the announced decision. Thank you very much. [2:57:01, 2:57:18]: Okay. And now we have Council consideration to approve the renewal of a landscape maintenance services contract with Yellowstone Landscape and amount of three hundred fifty thousand dollars. Funding sourced from the government building department empathy eight or budgeted funds. Ms. Aaron, please. [2:57:19, 2:57:39]: Yes, Ms. Mayor. Uh Public Works is coming before you tonight to ask for you to approve the fourth and final renewal with Yellowstone Landscape. Staff already has developed the scope of services to build out this project, this uh project prior to this uh expiration date. They have been a great partner as well with the City of Stockbridge. They [2:57:39, 2:57:58]: maintained the city hall, the municipal courts, the police department amphitheater, Merrill Manness Conference Center, the Main Street Office, and the Public Works Administrative Building. The current option expires on September 30th, 2025, and we're asking that you approve the renewal of this agreement. It's coming from budgeted funds. [2:57:59, 2:58:02]: Okay. Council questions? Yes. Yes. Go ahead please. [2:58:04, 2:58:07]: So this contract amount is three hundred thousand. [2:58:08, 2:58:28]: Is this three hundred and fifty thousand that you have at the bottom of this sheet? That's just the budgeted amount. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Uh motion to approve, sir. Sir second. Second. Mr. From Mr. Let me let me ask you, I I I don't wanna slow things up, but I'm gonna throw something in here. The area like in the downtown in the alleyway and the stuff like that. [2:58:28, 2:58:40]: Your guys are doing that or who's doing that? Yes. Certainly we need some attention. How about Berk Street on that Burke Street area? Can we get some more intensity on that? Yes. If not add it to this. [2:58:40, 2:58:41]: Motions but [2:58:42, 2:58:52]: Motion's been made by Miss Barber, seconded by Mr Berry. What is this, sir? You gonna get your first presentation here to us now? Isn't this special? Excuse me, sir. Even with this? [2:58:52, 2:58:58]: Um, I request this item be deferred to the Nate's council meeting to take a look at this, please. [2:58:58, 2:58:59]: Oh wow. [2:59:00, 2:59:07]: Okay. I will rescind my vote, sir. All right. Defer this item to the next council meeting. [2:59:07, 2:59:18]: All right. Thank you. So be it. Wasn't inspecting that, but okay. We'll just table it. We gotta vote the table though, right? Right. Well, uh yes. Okay. Well I I motion to table this item. Second. [2:59:18, 2:59:20]: Okay, all fair presentation? [2:59:21, 2:59:41]: Outstanding. It's been tabled. Okay. Council discussion for approval of the uh ordinance to amend the Stockbridge Municipal Code, section three point three zero point two two two two. Approval of contracts and section of three point three zero uh point two two three B. Uh city manager authority returning uh to inspect. [2:59:41, 2:59:48]: Spending contracting authority to twenty five dollars without the city council approval. Okay, for discussion purposes. [2:59:49, 2:59:53]: Well I just wondered about those. It's discussing purposes. [3:00:00, 3:00:05]: Go ahead. I thought you all said you were going to remove this item from the agenda. [3:00:06, 3:00:10]: This is f fifteen. I I have item number fifteen. This discussion. [3:00:10, 3:00:20]: Well we can move it from the agenda. Our motion to remove it would allow the city manager to continue with the same a motion to a pr motion to remove this from the agenda. [3:00:20, 3:00:23]: Okay. Is there a second to that motion? [3:00:23, 3:00:26]: Ms. Barber Segment, all in favor pleasing the cake. [3:00:27, 3:00:30]: I abstain for now. Well I have a uh question. [3:00:30, 3:00:33]: I thought we were going to discuss it's just a discussion. [3:00:34, 3:00:36]: But my concern is [3:00:37, 3:00:37]: Well [3:00:37, 3:00:42]: We can go we can table it. We can bring it back up, but I thought we were gonna at least discuss it. [3:00:43, 3:00:45]: 'Cause I thought we were expanding it for [3:00:45, 3:00:48]: It in the past we expanded it for a reason. [3:00:48, 3:01:08]: So I think it's something that we wanted to revisit, but we can we can table it. It's late. Well we can always bring it back at any time'cause it's it's fifty thousand right now. And certainly um I think our new city manager will come in and do some evaluations before he starts spending. But I would like him to have that limit so that we can catch up for the lost time. Yeah. [3:01:08, 3:01:11]: Well my concern is [3:01:11, 3:01:22]: I kinda wanna look at what other cities cap is first. So we can wait. I I wanna know what the other what what is going on around us. I just I think that we need to [3:01:23, 3:01:28]: I think that we expend I forgot the reason why we increased our cap. [3:01:28, 3:01:36]: But I want to consider reducing it because uh we just I I feel like we need to right now. But uh we can talk about that later. [3:01:36, 3:01:44]: So motion was made by Miss Barber. If I may. I'm sorry. Sorry. I just if I may. Go ahead. I just the unbudgeted spending. [3:01:45, 3:01:46]: Don't need to start. [3:01:47, 3:01:48]: Well there's nothing. [3:01:48, 3:01:50]: If it is not budgeted [3:01:51, 3:02:11]: regardless of if there is the city manager spending authorization to make the purchase or expenditure, we should not do it. I just want it to stop with all of the unbudgeted spending that is out of control. That's all. Right. [3:02:11, 3:02:15]: That's really what I wanted to address. [3:02:19, 3:02:21]: April was was fifteen. [3:02:24, 3:02:39]: Okay, we motion motion to table number fifteen. Can I yes for a revision on that table? Who tabled it? Well Miss B Ms Barber motion to table. Motion to remove it. Well we already talked about it. A motion to remove it. [3:02:40, 3:03:00]: Motion is second. Well, can I make a suggestion on the table? What we're gonna we removed it from the agenda so we can move on. We can bring it back. Hold on folks. It was hold on. It was it was a motion was made to table it. Mr. Elizabeth and you miss Barber and then to Mr. Alexander and you you second that and then you went to discussion. [3:03:00, 3:03:03]: But uh what it amounts to is that the motion's still on the floor. To table it. [3:03:04, 3:03:13]: Can I can I add to the discussion? The I c I can agree to the tabling. Uh I can agree to the tabling, but can we task staff or someone [3:03:13, 3:03:15]: Um to um [3:03:15, 3:03:30]: I don't know, HR, whoever, to look at surrounding area cap limits. I mean the the maximum spending limit limits. So we can do kind of like a little bit of feasibility study on what that is surrounding us with same size city. [3:03:31, 3:03:48]: Or similar sizes. I I just want a comparison. D you know what I'm saying? We can revisit it later, but we need to look at similar cities of our size and find out what that what that maximum amount is before it has to come in front of mayor and council. [3:03:48, 3:03:55]: Certainly. And we amend it to say that we're tabling and we want this back in thirty days. [3:03:55, 3:03:56]: I agree with it. [3:03:56, 3:03:59]: Okay. [3:04:00, 3:04:03]: Um I'm sorry? [3:04:03, 3:04:05]: That's fine. Okay. [3:04:06, 3:04:19]: Well you that was the you made the initial motion. Did you want that any motion? You m you made the initial motion you you made the initial motion. I'll tell you there was no vote, so you were able to discuss what was this. [3:04:20, 3:04:24]: So we need a total motion. [3:04:25, 3:04:45]: All right. And and bring Black Body 11 to August meeting. Tell me what I so the motion is is tasking staff to go back and compare similar cities of our size and bring that back in thirty days as to what the spend the city management spending authority is for complicated cities. Correct. Some move. Sir Sir. [3:04:45, 3:05:05]: second mr mr mr uh very second all fair please indicate all right all right we'll move on and and mr sean um uh what's your last name mr edmondson mr edmondson is nothing on you it's just we've had some financial things going on right now so we want to make sure that we are comparable [3:05:05, 3:05:06]: Throughout the right. [3:05:07, 3:05:11]: and make sure that we compare it with other cities. That's all we're doing. I'll fill you in later. [3:05:12, 3:05:32]: Council consideration on on uh of all non-budgeted non-essential services and expenses ceases immediately with all expenditures with or without contractual obligations greater than ten thousand dollars and must be uh presented to the governing body for consideration for approval. This includes events and concerts. Now this is a discussion point as [3:05:32, 3:05:52]: Mayor. Yes, sir. Let me just say uh initially I endeavored to uh with the consensus that I was seeking that it would be a narrow consensus that we would limit spending on new concerts that weren't published to the public. That was my intention. [3:05:52, 3:06:12]: intent. Now I know there was some other crosstalk in terms of how we were gonna do things, but that was the intent was to continue to um be physically responsible with the concerts that had already been pr published for the public, but to not and there not enter into any more expenses without uh [3:06:12, 3:06:32]: Um the uh doing the due diligence and making sure that the budget was there. Mr. Melaz have been working on the numbers to see what actually works for us in terms of being uh where we are. And I'm gonna be straight up. I'm gonna be honest and I'm gonna say some things here. People might not might make some people feel uncomfortable, but it's the truth. [3:06:33, 3:06:36]: The two point six million dollar spending limit at the amphitheater was too low. [3:06:38, 3:06:58]: It was too low. Now it makes it look like we spent a whole lot of money over the budget. But the original budget in when we first started was for two concerts and it was for two million dollars. We've been having ten concerts. One year we had fifteen. And then what really happened is we had fifteen concerts and we had the same budget, right? [3:06:57, 3:07:17]: That really made no sense for us to have the same budget for having 13 or 14 concerts as we did for the other. Now, as we do, and I'm gonna be cautious and walk some of that you all through that and understanding that we're looking to make sure that every dime is accounted for uh at the amphitheater in every in uh in [3:07:17, 3:07:21]: In every aspect, but make no mistake about it. [3:07:21, 3:07:41]: We're serious about what we're doing in making sure that the facility is sound. And as we always say at every concert, this building will be paid off next month twenty-two point five million dollars. Make no mistake, the city of Stockbridge is not going broke. I keep hearing this misnomer that [3:07:41, 3:08:01]: That the city has no money. Now, I'm gonna say some things that are really true that are right now that I want Mr. Edmondson to hear because I want him to hit the ground running with that$17 million that we have in T SPLOS and that$21 million that we have in SPLOSS 5. I want those projects to move forward and [3:08:01, 3:08:21]: And then we just started collecting money for a new spLOS, SPLOS 6, that'll add another$60 million. But we need somebody to come in proactively and take the bull by the horns and make things happen in this city because we got a number of projects. I can't tell you how many times I've been chewed out by the downtown department. [3:08:21, 3:08:41]: Development authority because the alleyway project is not moving forward. The alleyway project was voted on by this board for us to be able to move forward with it as a priority because downtown was a priority. So certainly I want to make sure that that happens. But the discussion, I wanted a narrow discussion that we would. [3:08:41, 3:09:01]: Would talk about non-published concerts for the amphitheater would not uh be supported until we got what we needed and to look at the financial aspects from uh the treasurer, and that information has been forthcoming to us, but not to limit spending uh in a way to uh ten thousand dollars. That was [3:09:01, 3:09:06]: not my desire. I know that may have been some of the other desire on the council, but that was not my desire. Thank you. [3:09:07, 3:09:08]: Well, go ahead, please. [3:09:10, 3:09:16]: So one of my concerns is for budgeted items. If it's budgeted [3:09:17, 3:09:20]: That means it has a maximum spend amount. [3:09:20, 3:09:27]: I just don't want the city manager to use his spending authority to add addition to the budget amount. [3:09:28, 3:09:31]: That is what has been done in the past. [3:09:32, 3:09:34]: Like with the back to school event. [3:09:34, 3:09:39]: If the budgeted amount is ten thousand dollars, that's it. [3:09:39, 3:09:42]: Not another penny over. [3:09:42, 3:09:44]: If I can Mr. Malazi. [3:09:45, 3:09:46]: He wants to speak. [3:09:51, 3:09:52]: Welcome, sir. [3:09:53, 3:10:00]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Non spending here doesn't matter whether you see [3:10:00, 3:10:06]: Ten dollars, twenty dollars, you see, three hundred, five hundred. It's not supposed to be. [3:10:07, 3:10:24]: Even five thousand is not supposed to be. It's we are supposed to spend what has been budgeted, what has been allocated. The amount is not important. Somehow in the departments, because we are on the department level, you may have one line [3:10:25, 3:10:29]: have has overspent the other lines okay, but total of the budget. [3:10:29, 3:10:32]: You can't spend what you have not been allocated. [3:10:32, 3:10:49]: So the amount is different regardless of where we are spending. Before we spend, we have to make sure we have transferred money where it is, or we have allocated if it will require a council to allocate, because you are the only authority that can allocate. [3:10:50, 3:11:10]: No one can allocate. You allocate, then we spend. But if it's to transfer from one fund, we don't have enough in another fund. We have to come before you before we spend. That's what it is. We have just come out of it from DOJ that they spend the suspended. [3:11:09, 3:11:24]: some of our info because we have been having this year after year spending without budgeting. So that one DOJ has created us. There's no problem with that. It has been created. [3:11:25, 3:11:34]: So we don't have to continue of uh spending something that we did not budget. If it is not in the budget, it doesn't exist. [3:11:35, 3:11:36]: Thank you. [3:11:36, 3:11:37]: Okay. [3:11:38, 3:11:41]: Okay, this is part of discussion. Any other other discussion point? [3:11:42, 3:11:50]: Just real quick about the budget. A budget is just that. I and I I can agree with Councilman Alexander. Um [3:11:51, 3:12:11]: I want people uh for some reason um to know and I do think that at some point we will speak on um certain concerns, but what what I what I do want people to know is a budget is a projection and it's based off of what took place the year before. [3:12:11, 3:12:13]: And the budget [3:12:13, 3:12:33]: For example, for the amphitheater has never been accurate. The budgets to me for the Merrill Mandaris hasn't been accurate on what it takes. And some things are capital projects for the community and some things are are projects what and what we learn is that we have growth and we have more demands. And so the budget expands. [3:12:33, 3:12:35]: Based off of a need. [3:12:35, 3:12:37]: І ти зната край. [3:12:37, 3:12:50]: when you need to when you're when n I'm not saying you wanna go over budget. I'm not gonna, you know, sweep do that. I'm not saying that. But what I wanna describe it as is [3:12:51, 3:13:09]: It's a m roadmap based off of your previous expenditures from the year before. It also shows your growth. So if you budgeted before for something or for a project, but now you have an additional five thousand people in population and you need to budget [3:13:09, 3:13:29]: even more or an event has grown or you know you're utilizing the facilities more or you have to hire more employees because you need more employees to do the job because you have more growth, whether it's business or commercial growth or whether it's um uh residential growth. [3:13:29, 3:13:49]: A budget is simply a roadmap. And sometimes people go over budget. And when they do go over budget, they have to come to the mayor and council to have that budget amended. That's the proper process. If it is if it's to go over budget and we need [3:13:49, 3:14:09]: More money for something, or we need to expand for a purpose and reason, then it needs to come before counsel. That's the proper process. But it's not a criminal matter. It's not a, oh my God, you, I'm not gonna try to downplay it. Now it can be to the extreme. [3:14:09, 3:14:28]: That could be crazy, but what I'm saying trying to get a point across is for educational purposes, is it's a roadmap based off of previous expenditures. And so sometimes when you have new projects, you're trying to figure out what that budget is going to be. [3:14:29, 3:14:36]: And so I want people to just realize that that a lot of times some budgets are work in progress. [3:14:36, 3:14:40]: Ms. Alzan, go ahead, please. Yeah, Ms. Malaysia, come back up here real quick. [3:14:40, 3:14:56]: See, I uh the one thing that I want you to do and I want you to do tonight, I want you to put a misnomer. You know, the speaker of you earlier alluded to that that was thirty two million dollars and I've heard that s binded about numerous times. He even called your name. [3:14:57, 3:15:00]: There's no thirty two million dollars missing in the city. [3:15:01, 3:15:03]: So what happened is [3:15:04, 3:15:06]: We were spending money. [3:15:07, 3:15:09]: But we didn't put in the budget. Right. [3:15:09, 3:15:16]: So what we did was to correct something that we spent on, something that was not done, to say in this fund [3:15:16, 3:15:18]: We spend so much. [3:15:19, 3:15:29]: We under budgeted, we are supposed to be here. We over budgeted, we reduced. So we put it general fund. This is what we budgeted. This is what would have a [3:15:29, 3:15:32]: budget amendment you are talking about. That's what we did. [3:15:32, 3:15:34]: To make it correct. [3:15:34, 3:15:43]: So we budgeted the 41 million, but in actual sense there was upper funds that we use. We were just spending, but we never budgeted. [3:15:43, 3:15:53]: There were some um s plus. We were spending but we didn't budget. But it wasn't brought to Mayor and Council either. It was never brought it before the council. Okay. [3:15:53, 3:15:58]: And uh as you correctly say that uh at times you [3:15:58, 3:16:06]: have more revenue that have come in than you projected. You have to have that revenue allocate so that you can have uh [3:16:06, 3:16:06]: Um [3:16:07, 3:16:12]: Expenses. At times the opposite happens. Revenue go down. [3:16:12, 3:16:32]: You have expenses, you have to reduce expenses so that we are always in balance. And the only authority that can do that is the council. So it was not coming before the council, but we spent that money. So the money is not missing. No, there's no missing of money. But we are making it right. [3:16:32, 3:16:46]: Right, because what was being done was being done by management and staff without counsel. There was no budget amendment at the end of the fiscal year. So this is what we did in 2024. We have finished. [3:16:46, 3:16:48]: But we spent these monies [3:16:48, 3:16:50]: Without their counsel. [3:16:50, 3:16:53]: We did interrogate, so that's what we did. [3:16:53, 3:17:13]: So in essence it was mismanagement. Mismanagement, yes. So moving forward, we need to make sure that we have systems in place that will prevent mismanagement. We budgeted so much revenue, we have gotten more. [3:17:13, 3:17:33]: More than we thought we will increase. So mid-year we have budget amendment. If up to December something has happened, we'll bring you budget amendment. If nothing happens, no matter what, end of the fiscal year, there must be budget amendment. And it's important for staff to support this council and support the work. [3:17:33, 3:17:39]: of the taxpayers a city of Stockbridge as well. And so moving forward, people need to understand as well, the council does not [3:17:40, 3:18:00]: Physically touch funds or move funds or allocate funds. That is not a council job duty, a job function. Those are job duties of the staff. However, it is our responsibility to oversee that. And we can only oversee what we are given and reported upon. So the fidelity, the integrity, [3:18:00, 3:18:11]: integrity, the truth bearing and the and the good f you know, work of the of the staff is are prerequisite for us to move forward and do this work the right way. [3:18:11, 3:18:31]: So the thirty two million that they are talking about is the the difference between what was budgeted and what was acted on that was not presented to council to work on it or to approve it. So the expenditures were there, but they were not approved by council. So what we did was to [3:18:31, 3:18:43]: to say all these funds were attached and this is where it would have been, only to find out that what was actually presented to council was much, much less forty one million, but entirely [3:18:43, 3:18:53]: we spent those um funds that actually they were revenues and expenses. So there was no money of thirty two million that went missing. [3:18:53, 3:18:55]: Yeah. [3:18:55, 3:18:56]: To be clear. [3:18:57, 3:19:11]: The documents that mayor and council did receive because we received paperwork. We received we had to approve a budget at the end of the year. We received reports. Um have you looked at some of those previous reports that we received? [3:19:11, 3:19:12]: In the past. [3:19:13, 3:19:18]: I have and I have communicated it to you. And are those documents accurate? [3:19:19, 3:19:23]: No. They were not accurate. That's it. So the documents that we received [3:19:23, 3:19:27]: looked as if we were on budget. Is that not correct? [3:19:27, 3:19:33]: That is correct. That's where my uh talking was we let you down. [3:19:33, 3:19:53]: Yes. I didn't know. I did mention that and I'm saying today again we let you down, hopefully, from now going forward. Well no, you didn't let us down. We did. You weren't here. I am part of the thing. I appreciate that you're saying we let you down. But what I what the concern is is that the hooplaws and the hollers have been that we [3:19:53, 3:20:13]: We receive as if we we did not receive any documentation and we should have. We received documentation. We received reports. What you received we are not correct. Right. We received reported reports. We received bud budgets. We received spreadsheets, and the numbers were increased. [3:20:13, 3:20:32]: Incorrect, but the numbers appeared to be what we thought were good numbers, correct? That is true. All right, thank you. That's it, Mayor. Yes, ma'am. So one of the concerns that I've expressed over the last two years at the end of each year. [3:20:32, 3:20:39]: when the proposed budget for the upcoming year is has been presented to us. [3:20:39, 3:20:41]: The actuals [3:20:42, 3:20:44]: The actuals for the current year [3:20:45, 3:20:46]: We're all incomplete. [3:20:48, 3:20:52]: I made those points every single year. [3:20:53, 3:21:00]: Asking staff what is the period in which the actuals are being re reported to us? [3:21:02, 3:21:03]: They would just say mid year. [3:21:04, 3:21:05]: July or August. [3:21:07, 3:21:08]: And [3:21:08, 3:21:09]: It was approved. [3:21:09, 3:21:10]: I didn't approve it. [3:21:11, 3:21:14]: Because I want to see true actuals. [3:21:15, 3:21:17]: At least through the end of the third quarter. [3:21:18, 3:21:23]: But it looked as though they cut off the reporting, the actual reporting of the current year. [3:21:24, 3:21:25]: Mid year [3:21:26, 3:21:29]: not to reflect the full year of the concert seasons. [3:21:30, 3:21:33]: That's what I was looking for, specifically. [3:21:35, 3:21:37]: You all have known just as I've known. [3:21:38, 3:21:42]: Two million dollars is not enough to cover the operations of the amphitheater. [3:21:42, 3:21:44]: For a full concert season. [3:21:45, 3:21:50]: We have the responsibility of making sure that we have accurate information. [3:21:51, 3:21:54]: To justify the budget that we're approving. [3:21:55, 3:21:58]: Incomplete actuals for the current year. [3:21:58, 3:22:01]: We should not be approving the budget that way. [3:22:02, 3:22:05]: We need to hold staff accountable going forward. [3:22:06, 3:22:07]: And I will be. [3:22:07, 3:22:09]: Mr. Malazzi has done a great job. [3:22:10, 3:22:13]: He has to accept ac accountability. [3:22:13, 3:22:13]: Four. [3:22:15, 3:22:17]: [12137.5, 12140.3]: and previous staff members. [3:22:20, 3:22:23]: I'm just hopeful going forward we will have the [3:22:24, 3:22:27]: controls and checks and balances in place. [3:22:27, 3:22:32]: It's just that this council we us [3:22:32, 3:22:34]: We just gotta make sure that we're not [3:22:35, 3:22:36]: Overzealous [3:22:37, 3:22:46]: In spending more than what is budgeted. I know there's a lot of ideas and projects that I'd like to see happen. [3:22:47, 3:22:51]: That thirty-two million dollars that we that were mismanaged. [3:22:52, 3:22:53]: I think about the rock [3:22:54, 3:22:56]: The Rock Query Road extension. [3:22:56, 3:22:57]: Project. [3:22:57, 3:22:58]: That could have happened. [3:23:00, 3:23:01]: Can't do it now. [3:23:02, 3:23:08]: I'm thinking about a whole lot of projects that I would like see like to see in my district alone. [3:23:09, 3:23:18]: All the projects that I could have had done with those thirty-two million dollars had they been managed better. [3:23:19, 3:23:22]: So when I abstain from voting on certain issues. [3:23:23, 3:23:26]: It is because I recognize that [3:23:27, 3:23:29]: Some processes appear to be broken. [3:23:31, 3:23:35]: I call it out when I see it, but I can't be the only one who's calling it out. [3:23:36, 3:23:41]: We need to hold staff accountable and I intend on doing that going forward. Thank you. [3:23:42, 3:24:02]: All right. Everybody's had everybody's good? And I would just say that uh really don't have any further comments because everything's already been said. So on that note, the discussion portion is has ended and we'll move on to an uh announcements and upcoming meetings and events. And uh council meetings will be held in city council chamber meeting, dates and location and times of summer. [3:24:02, 3:24:22]: Subject to change and or contact City Hall offices 770-389-7900 or to visit the website at www.stopbridgega.org for updates. The planning commission meeting is Thursday, July 17th, 630 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers. Actually, a note here says actually it's council now though. [3:24:21, 3:24:28]: on that no on that note. So it's not they're gonna council that for the seventeenth, which is just uh couple of days. [3:24:28, 3:24:48]: Ethics Committee meeting Wednesday, July 23rd at 6 30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers. A joint public meeting will be held on Tuesday, uh, July 29th at 11 a.m. to formally discuss project priorities and funding allocations under the proposed uh floating op local option sales tax floss program. That'll be at the uh Henry County Administrative Building. [3:24:48, 3:24:54]: located 140 North Henry Boulevard, excuse me, 140 Henry Parkway in Madonna. [3:24:54, 3:25:14]: The City Council work session meeting is last uh last Tuesday of each month, is July twenty ninth, six p.m. in the City Hall Council Chambers. Upcoming city events and uh and initiatives. Food show tasty Tuesday is happening in Clark Park, 5 30, 8 p.m. You join us for great food and uh lots of fun. We missed that tonight since we're in a meeting. [3:25:14, 3:25:34]: Uh join me uh Main Street uh for the tiny tent join the main street uh for the tiny tent concert series Fridays is six p.m. to eight p.m. at Stockbridge Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, bring your own lawn chairs and of course I'll have it provided the weather's permitting. And join Mayor Pro Tem Gantt for a free line dancing club. [3:25:34, 3:25:54]: Classes on Wednesday, July 16th and July 30th from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. at the Merrill Man's Conference Center. Bring your own fan. And y'all be slapping the fans around, don't you? Okay. Okay. Join Calcman Thomas and Calcman Berry in the partnership for the monthly Bingo Bash on Wednesday, July 16th from 10 a.m. to 12 a.m. [3:25:54, 3:26:14]: at the Mermanus Conference Center. Lots of fun to be had by all. And that's actually tomorrow. Join Mayor Anthony Ford for the monthly meet the mayor on Monday, July 28th from 10 a.m. to tw to noon the City Hall. The meetings will be by appointment. The Economic Development Department hosts a free business health clinic on the second Thursday of each month from 9 a.m. to 12 noon. [3:26:14, 3:26:34]: Stockbridge Connection Center 130 ML King Heritage Senior Heritage Senior Trail. Check the for the healthier businesses for the free clinic. Councilman Thomas is always honoring the veterans and continues to salute to you all year long. Please send your pictures and veterans and names, branch, rank, and years of service. [3:26:34, 3:26:41]: Join Captain Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiatives centered around education, highlighting the cause and effects of littering and illegal dumping. [3:26:42, 3:27:02]: Sign up for real-time alerts about the weather, severe weather, road closures, and emergencies on the regroup app. Visit the city's website or social media pages for more information on how to how and where to sign up. Stay safe. Please contact Rosland Ross to schedule an appointment to meet the mayor for more information and count on Council. [3:27:02, 3:27:22]: Initiatives is six seven eight eight three three three three four eight by way of email ross at starbridge G A dot or G. Twenty-four uh uh twenty twenty-five council season still goes on, so uh go to Stockbridge AMP dot com and see what's happening with the Amber Theater in the rest of the season. And uh on that note, uh [3:27:21, 3:27:29]: Um my comments for tonight. Of course, since it's uh we probably all missed the all-star game all-star game, which is right in downtown Atlanta. [3:27:29, 3:27:49]: Maybe it's still going on if you want to go check it out. If you're not you know watching it. I'm sorry? Cobb County. Cobb County. Oh sorry I said downtown, didn't I say downtown? Used to be downtown. Right, Cobb County. Anyway, so uh so otherwise um since uh since it's been awfully hot this summer, make sure you when you're outside, you hydrate, drink a lot of water, exercise if you can and stay. [3:27:49, 3:28:09]: Stay healthy. And of course, prepare yourselves for adults and kids and grandparents prepare yourselves for going back to school here sometime next month. And on that note, we have an executive session, ladies and gentlemen, for legal personnel, real estate. And I've been informed now for our execular session. [3:28:09, 3:28:25]: we have to add cyber security. All right, so so legal, personnel, real estate, and cyber security. And so I need a motion to go to the second session. So moved. Is there a second? Mr. Berry second that all fair please indicate. We'll be back in a little while, ladies and gentlemen. [3:28:35, 3:28:40]: We go early in the morning, they have food and sauce. [3:29:12, 3:29:32]: Council, I need a motion to end our executive. So move. Is there a second? Second. Uh from Alexander to uh Mr. Berry, all favor say uh indicate. It's announced decision. Now I need a motion to reconvene our city council meeting. So move. Second. Okay, from Mr. Alexander to Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. [3:29:32, 3:29:33]: Okay. [3:29:33, 3:29:50]: Okay. We do not have any uh oh yes we do. We have something we need to yes we I just we have something that we need to mention uh that came out of our second session, please. Who is that who's gonna mention that? Um I'd like to make a motion to approve a salary increase for the city treasurer. Second. [3:29:50, 3:30:10]: All right, uh from Miss Barber to Mr. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. All right. Now I need a motion, congratulations to the treasurer. And now I need a motion to uh end our city council meeting. So uh Mr. Berry, give me a second, somebody. Second. It's okay. Second to Mr. Alexander. All favor, please indicate. Congratulations. [3:30:10, 3:30:13]: God bless you, good night.