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--- title: Planning Commission date: 2025-04-17 source: 2025-04-17_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:03:48, 0:03:52]: [232.2, 235.0]: Uh decided to take the responsible. [0:04:00, 0:04:05]: In your area. Okay. There's a lot. [0:04:09, 0:04:09]: Actually. [0:04:11, 0:04:13]: Time visible. [0:04:17, 0:04:18]: Good evening, everyone. [0:04:23, 0:04:27]: It is now six thirty. I'll officially call this meeting to order. [0:04:30, 0:04:33]: Madam Secretary, can you please call the roll call? [0:04:39, 0:04:40]: Present. [0:04:44, 0:04:44]: Present. [0:04:46, 0:04:46]: Present. [0:04:49, 0:04:49]: Here. [0:04:52, 0:04:53]: Present. [0:04:56, 0:04:56]: Present. [0:04:59, 0:05:08]: Thank you so much. Madam Vice Chair, will you please uh lead us in the pl uh the invocation immediately following? Please join us in standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:05:10, 0:05:11]: May we bow our heads. [0:05:13, 0:05:25]: Lord, we come to you as humble as we know how, asking you to for the people to hear our hearts as we hear theirs. We ask for traveling graces and mercies and [0:05:27, 0:05:29]: Thank you for all that you've done. [0:05:30, 0:05:36]: We give you honor, all the honor, all the glory, and all the praise, respecting all religions. Amen. [0:05:37, 0:05:37]: Amen. [0:05:39, 0:05:41]: Please join us with the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:05:43, 0:05:55]: I put it in the middle of the year to the flag of the United States America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, one remote, individual feature, not just called. [0:05:57, 0:05:58]: Mm-hmm. [0:05:58, 0:06:09]: Thank you so much. Welcome to the City of Stockbridge Planning Commission meeting for April seventeenth, twenty twenty five. I am Jaden Williams, Chairman of the City of Stockbridge Planning Commission. [0:06:10, 0:06:17]: There are a few protocols that I want to make you all aware of before we start this meeting. Please listen closely regarding how tonight's meeting will be conducted. [0:06:18, 0:06:34]: Keep your comments and presentations on a professional level dealing with facts that are important for this Commission to make decisions. We will not accept any comments that are considered by the Chair to be a personal attack on any individual or group of individuals. You will receive a warning from the Chair if you deviate from these requirements. [0:06:34, 0:06:41]: Refrain from any applause or comments from the audience. Only one person will be talking at a time and all comments will be made [0:06:42, 0:06:59]: at the podium uh when you're recognized by the chair. Please direct all comments to the chair and the commission, not the audience or the staff. Do not applaud or react to speakers, speakers from the audience cheer, or carry on in any conversation with others in the audience, or disrupt the order of this meeting in any way. Be aware that [0:07:00, 0:07:09]: These are he these hearings are not a debate or an opportunity to ask questions which must be answered by the individual tonight, but are merely an opportunity to present information to the Commission. [0:07:10, 0:07:30]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part of his speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire 10 minutes allotted for the pro side of the application. Other than the applicant, no person may speak longer than five minutes. If you have a cell phone or other electronic device, I ask you to either power [0:07:29, 0:07:32]: Power them off or put them in silence mode. [0:07:32, 0:07:40]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight, please fill out a speaker's form, which is available on the table up front, and hand it to a staff member before approaching the podium. [0:07:42, 0:08:02]: After each item or case is called, we will hear from the city staff and then we'll hear from the applicant or their respect representative about what their plans are for the property, along with any other relevant informate information they wish to present. The commission members will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote on a project, following the applicant, anyone who [0:08:02, 0:08:07]: who wishes to speak for or against the project, or to just ask a question when they have the opportunity to do so. [0:08:07, 0:08:15]: Which each side is respected and restricted to a five, ten minute maximum, or a time may be waived at the discretion of the presiding official. [0:08:16, 0:08:30]: If questions are raised, we may ask the applicant to speak again. Afterward, we will call for a motion in a second, have a necessary discussion, and if the matter is not tabled, we will vote to recommend approval or denial of the application. This commission is only a recommending body. [0:08:31, 0:08:45]: The items will be heard by mayor and council whether we recommend approval or recommend denial. Unless they are tabled, these items will be heard by the mayor, the city's mayor and council at their next meeting on Monday, May 12th, 2025, and the items will be voted upon at that meeting. [0:08:46, 0:08:50]: At this time, I'm gonna ask for an adoption of tonight's agenda. [0:08:54, 0:09:05]: Mr. Chairman, I move that we adopt the agenda. That's permitted. Mr. Chairman, I second. I have a motion by Mr. Doomis and a second by Mr. Planchin. All those in favor, please indicate by the sound of aye. [0:09:05, 0:09:07]: All those opposed? [0:09:09, 0:09:23]: So moved. Moving on, may I have a motion to approve or before you commissioners you all have the meeting minutes from the last meeting. Please review those. Once finishing, please uh I'll take a motion for the approval of the last meeting minutes. [0:09:25, 0:09:30]: Mr. Chairman, unless anybody wants it read, I make a motion we approve the minutes from last meeting as written. [0:09:31, 0:09:51]: And Harrow, I second it. I have a motion by Mr. Planton and a second by Mr. Thibodeau. All those in favor, please indicate by the sound of aye. Mr. Chairman. Please hold. Yes, sir. Before we vote, I do have one correction, please. Sure. Uh board action on RZ 2025. [0:09:51, 0:10:11]: The last paragraph is inaccurate. It's suggesting that the uh the uh RZ 2025-02 was approved by vote of 3-2 without any conditions. [0:10:11, 0:10:13]: That is not correct. [0:10:15, 0:10:26]: If you recall at that meeting there were two motions. The first motion was made to deny the request and it failed. [0:10:28, 0:10:31]: The second motion was made to approve [0:10:31, 0:10:33]: What conditions? [0:10:33, 0:10:36]: Those were the only two motions on the floor. [0:10:37, 0:10:47]: I think the confusion was on the vote count, not on the motion itself. Correct. So the motion was a approved three two with conditions. [0:10:47, 0:10:55]: Correct. Can we um can we make those well I'm gonna actually uh ask Mr. Plinch and did you make the motion, sir? [0:10:57, 0:11:08]: I'm gonna ask that uh we can get this fixed with staff at the end of the meeting. With the corrections. Thank you so much. Is there a second to this? A second here. [0:11:10, 0:11:11]: To what was then? [0:11:14, 0:11:25]: I I I think I'm uh I'm agree with uh Mr. Doom is here. We did have some conditions that he brought towards the commission that we discussed and was approved therefore. [0:11:27, 0:11:30]: Uh may I speak, Mr. Chairman? Please. [0:11:30, 0:11:40]: Uh Miss Logan, uh I know you recorded the meetings. Can you uh go back to that and and listen and s see exactly what was saying? [0:11:43, 0:11:50]: when I was preparing the minutes and I played it back multiple times to ensure accuracy. [0:11:52, 0:11:56]: But we we haven't heard it. So is there any way that we can listen to it? [0:11:58, 0:11:59]: Mr. Chairman. [0:12:00, 0:12:10]: Yes, uh if we could look at the bottom of page four of the minutes, this might be what we're referencing. If uh Commissioner Doomis could confirm that. [0:12:13, 0:12:33]: Yes, here are the conditions here. Mr. Dumas. I'm clear on the conditions. I I was just concerned with the paragraph, the final paragraph on the board RZ 2025-S2. It specifically says that it was a three-two vote without any condition. [0:12:33, 0:12:34]: And that is not accurate. [0:12:34, 0:12:35]: Yes, sir. [0:12:38, 0:12:38]: Mr. Chair. [0:12:40, 0:12:40]: Please. [0:12:41, 0:12:44]: May I ask a motion to deny until we review? [0:12:45, 0:12:52]: If Mr. Planchton will uh rescind his motion to approve so that we can further review as a commissioners to get that set. [0:12:53, 0:12:54]: Yes. [0:12:54, 0:13:02]: Okay. Uh that we have a motion to deny the last meeting minutes until the commission can review um and add those conditions. Is there a second? [0:13:03, 0:13:10]: I second it, Harold. All right, there's a motion by Miss Walker and there's a second by Mr. Thibodeau. All those in favor, please indicate by the sound of I. [0:13:11, 0:13:13]: Uh uh. Any opposed? Aye. [0:13:14, 0:13:33]: Uh it is a what four one? Four one vote to deny, motion to deny. You can approve you can make changes to the minutes during the meeting. You don't have to go through that proceeding. What the commission's wanna review because the staff said that they saw they didn't hear any errors, so we want to s go back and watch it ourselves. Okay. [0:13:35, 0:13:40]: Thank you so much for that. Now moving on to the next item on the agenda. [0:13:43, 0:13:57]: Next item on tonight's agenda is a special use permit case, SP-2024-03. I will read it into record. After that, we will have a presentation from the staff in a public hearing. Then the board will vote on this case. [0:13:58, 0:14:17]: Consideration of a request for a special use permit to allow personal care home to operate on property at two hundred seventy SHIELTS Road. Applicants as agent is Shoner John. The property is located in land lot seventy of District twelve and it contains one point forty seven more or less acres. The staff will now give its presentation of this case. [0:15:06, 0:15:08]: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. [0:15:09, 0:15:10]: Good evening. [0:15:14, 0:15:25]: This is a PowerPoint presentation for special use permit case number SP 2024 at 270 Shields Road, special use permit case. [0:15:25, 0:15:26]: Um [0:15:28, 0:15:35]: The property is uh located on Shields Road on the east side. Here's the aerial photo. [0:15:37, 0:15:43]: The applicant is Shauna John, uh parcel number S100204-1000. [0:15:43, 0:15:45]: One point four seven. [0:15:45, 0:15:47]: Acres approximately. [0:15:47, 0:15:48]: And [0:15:49, 0:15:53]: Property has existing single family detached dwelling located on a hill. [0:15:53, 0:15:57]: With the driveway leading up to a side entry, two car garage and a turnaround area. [0:15:58, 0:16:02]: Um it's used as a single family dwelling and has twenty two ninety six square feet. [0:16:03, 0:16:05]: With four bedrooms and two baths. [0:16:05, 0:16:07]: Um the applicant states there's also [0:16:07, 0:16:08]: Two bedrooms in the basement. [0:16:09, 0:16:16]: Uh surrounding uses are other single family detached dwellings and some vacant parcels, property zones, suburban residential. [0:16:17, 0:16:21]: uh as well as the surrounding area, future land use designation, medium density, [0:16:21, 0:16:23]: Residential and this is appropriate. [0:16:24, 0:16:26]: future land use designation for a personal care home. [0:16:30, 0:16:36]: Uh the applicant requests uh to a special use permit to operate a personal care home with [0:16:36, 0:16:37]: Six residents. [0:16:37, 0:16:42]: Um, I won't read this but I have a definition here of a personal care home in case anyone [0:16:43, 0:16:44]: Uh needs that. [0:16:45, 0:16:48]: Персонал Кера Хом із дистінгіш фронтом other симле. [0:16:49, 0:17:05]: uh type developments such as a daycare center, group daycare home, and um family daycare, those three uh either are for children or for less than twenty-four hours. So that's how personal care home is different. [0:17:05, 0:17:13]: Um the applicant purchased the property um last year and obtained a zoning verification letter from community development. [0:17:14, 0:17:14]: Um [0:17:14, 0:17:17]: applied for a business license, it was not issued at that time. [0:17:18, 0:17:27]: She did appear at a CZIM meeting last September fourth and a planning commission meeting last September nineteenth, but the case was deferred at that time. [0:17:28, 0:17:33]: Um she also submitted a deferral letter on October twenty ninth, twenty twenty four. [0:17:33, 0:17:35]: Uh so that she could obtain her [0:17:35, 0:17:38]: state license for personal care home. [0:17:38, 0:17:40]: She now has a pain that um [0:17:40, 0:17:43]: January twenty eighth, twenty twenty five and [0:17:43, 0:17:45]: second thing she needed from the state was [0:17:45, 0:17:49]: a medication certification this would allow her to [0:17:49, 0:17:53]: personally administer any medication to the residents living there in the home. [0:17:54, 0:17:56]: Um and I verified. [0:17:56, 0:17:57]: Um [0:17:57, 0:18:02]: uh through an online search, uh the presence of this medication certification. [0:18:03, 0:18:06]: Here's a zoning map of the property. You see that it's [0:18:06, 0:18:10]: um within a suburban residential uh zoning district. [0:18:11, 0:18:14]: And medium density residential the entire area. [0:18:16, 0:18:18]: Here is a survey of the property. [0:18:19, 0:18:19]: Um [0:18:20, 0:18:23]: There is a long narrow driveway going up the hill and a [0:18:23, 0:18:25]: The side entry garage with a [0:18:26, 0:18:27]: А тернораун арія. [0:18:27, 0:18:29]: Um to back out of the garage. [0:18:31, 0:18:41]: Uh this is the copy of the state personal care home license. Now it does say that it only allows three residents, whereas the applicant has requested six [0:18:42, 0:18:42]: Um [0:18:45, 0:18:48]: This other certificate is her um [0:18:48, 0:18:51]: Shows that she completed a course for the medication certification. [0:18:53, 0:18:56]: So there's some information about the interior of the home. [0:18:56, 0:19:00]: Um she proposes to have two residents per bedroom. [0:19:00, 0:19:01]: Um [0:19:02, 0:19:06]: and each resident must have at least eighty square feet. [0:19:06, 0:19:09]: There's a master bedroom and two other bedrooms on the main floor. [0:19:10, 0:19:13]: Um the applicant has submitted what she calls a business summary. [0:19:13, 0:19:15]: That was just submitted to us. Um [0:19:16, 0:19:17]: Лас вік [0:19:17, 0:19:30]: describes um admission procedures and op business operations of the home, hours of operation, when there'd be deliveries. There would be two employees initially to care for the residents around the clock. [0:19:33, 0:19:53]: Uh here's and she's also arranged for security measures of the facility and the the residents, uh storage of medication, um grab bars for the residents and emergency systems um and obtain the fire hydrants and evacuation. [0:19:53, 0:19:55]: procedures and so forth. [0:19:55, 0:19:59]: And has submitted uh photographs of some of these items. [0:20:00, 0:20:03]: This is a a sketch of the floor plan of the interior of the home. [0:20:04, 0:20:08]: Uh, we did a number of analyses per the UDC. [0:20:09, 0:20:09]: Um [0:20:10, 0:20:14]: There are requirements for personal care homes with three or more residents. [0:20:14, 0:20:16]: Uh must comply with state laws. [0:20:17, 0:20:23]: Uh the the exterior of the home it must still look like a single family home and not be evident from the outside. [0:20:23, 0:20:35]: that anything else is uh happening there. Um must meet parking standards and needs a business license and must meet the fire building and fire codes. [0:20:39, 0:20:42]: The minimal Miss Logan, could you go full screen please? [0:20:43, 0:20:44]: Let's see. [0:20:50, 0:20:54]: Down the lower right hand corner should be the button. [0:20:56, 0:20:57]: That's one. [0:20:59, 0:21:00]: Yeah, is that better? [0:21:03, 0:21:04]: There you go. [0:21:04, 0:21:05]: Okay. [0:21:05, 0:21:06]: Mm mm mm. [0:21:11, 0:21:21]: Needs a mini property needs a minimum lot size of one acre which it has and not be within fifteen hundred feet of another similar facility, not being in the subdivision, it meets those requirements. [0:21:23, 0:21:24]: Um [0:21:25, 0:21:33]: There there's other information here if if if needed. These are just the different analyses out of the UDC that we looked at. [0:21:40, 0:21:45]: Uh some of the requirements are outdoor lighting, uh sufficient parking. [0:21:46, 0:21:47]: Um [0:21:48, 0:21:50]: Hours and manners of operation. [0:21:51, 0:21:52]: Protective screening. [0:21:53, 0:21:55]: Ingress and egress. [0:21:56, 0:21:58]: So these are our conclusion, the number of residents [0:21:59, 0:22:03]: Uh, although the applicant proposes to have six residents, her state license only allows three. [0:22:04, 0:22:04]: Um [0:22:06, 0:22:11]: type of use. We don't believe that a personal care home is the best use of the property in terms of its location. [0:22:12, 0:22:14]: in an established residential area. [0:22:14, 0:22:18]: Uh we've identified potential adverse um [0:22:18, 0:22:20]: Impacts on the surrounding neighborhood. [0:22:21, 0:22:21]: Um [0:22:22, 0:22:25]: The the driveway, access to the driveway, as I mentioned. [0:22:25, 0:22:29]: Um you have delivery vehicles coming occasionally. [0:22:30, 0:22:35]: Um, might be some conflicts, them going up and down the driveway. Not not a good place to [0:22:35, 0:22:36]: Park or turn around. [0:22:37, 0:22:37]: Um [0:22:38, 0:22:39]: Or not a sufficient parking. [0:22:40, 0:22:43]: And there's no protective screening like a fence for [0:22:43, 0:22:52]: to protect um visual impacts on the neighbors and also protection for the residents themselves to keep them on the property. [0:22:54, 0:22:58]: Uh in view of those uh conclusions we recommend denial of this case. [0:22:58, 0:23:01]: However, we have identified in case a city council [0:23:02, 0:23:07]: uh wishes to approve S P twenty twenty four oh three, then we recommend [0:23:07, 0:23:27]: Three conditions. Number one, that no more than three residents occupy the personal care home, because that's what the state license limits are to. Number two, that driveway and parking area area be modified to accommodate additional vehicles. And number three, that appropriate screening and fencing be installed for the safety of the residents and protection. [0:23:27, 0:23:28]: protection of the neighbors. [0:23:31, 0:23:34]: Uh Mr President, may I speak? [0:23:34, 0:23:35]: Go ahead, sir. [0:23:35, 0:23:41]: M Ms. Logan, uh I I understand all the uh requirements that are here. [0:23:41, 0:23:45]: For the applicant. The the only question I was thinking about [0:23:46, 0:23:56]: Did did all this information was presented to the applicant long before they applied for us to uh [0:23:56, 0:24:02]: For them to come to this meeting. H did did you give them all the particulars about what's required? [0:24:04, 0:24:09]: I mean you're giving it to us, but did you give that to the applicant? [0:24:10, 0:24:14]: Initially we had another staff person communicating with the applicant. [0:24:15, 0:24:16]: Um but yes. [0:24:16, 0:24:29]: So you you're saying prior to this meeting that the applicant had all this information? That was communicated um, you know, months ago before the uh planning commission meeting. Uh this September Planning Commission meeting. [0:24:30, 0:24:31]: Thank you. [0:24:33, 0:24:35]: Thank you. Any other questions from any of the commissioners? [0:24:38, 0:24:49]: I have a question. Um, let me see. So I I know we've this case has been brought to us before and we deferred it until she got the required certifications. Right um [0:24:50, 0:24:57]: One, I wanted to ask the county, the city attorney, can we even approve a six if she if she's only been approved for three by the state? [0:25:04, 0:25:16]: Thank you so much. Uh and then lastly, uh for for us, it's a self care home where s w has she met the requirements for the city to to conduct the business in her home? [0:25:17, 0:25:22]: When you did your review, your staff review the report, did she meet the r the said requirements that we have? [0:25:24, 0:25:33]: So this this staff report was prepared after she obtained her two state licenses, state license and state medication certification. [0:25:34, 0:25:54]: So so there's a a conflict in this in the two city codes. You have the city co city code of ordinances and then you have the zoning ordinance. The zoning ordinance allows for um personal care homes. However, the city code of ordinances does not and it does not have any provisions to regulate. [0:25:54, 0:26:00]: Personal care home. So currently there are no provisions in the city to regulate that type of business. [0:26:01, 0:26:02]: All right. [0:26:03, 0:26:03]: Please. [0:26:04, 0:26:21]: That's it, Chair. So uh my question is, can we approve it with the three residents that her license allots for versus y uh trying to approve it with the six residents that she's requesting? [0:26:22, 0:26:25]: You can only approve it for three [0:26:25, 0:26:27]: That's what the state license uh [0:26:27, 0:26:45]: Right. Allows and there's also um I'm trying to find it here, a prohibition that you cannot um allow any more than what the state license is. I'm sorry. I I was just asking, can we vote to uh approve it for three versus six, which she's requesting? [0:26:45, 0:26:51]: Yeah, so it's a public hearing. So I know we'll probably discuss it a little bit further. I'm gonna open it up if Miss Linda's done, I'm gonna open it up to the applicant. [0:26:51, 0:26:52]: Um [0:26:53, 0:26:55]: I won wanna mention I found this [0:26:55, 0:27:08]: There is a provision called Rule 111862.063, which states as follows: a licensed personal care home must not serve more residents than its approved licensed capacity. [0:27:10, 0:27:16]: Yep. All right. Thank you, Ms. Linda. I'm gonna ask for the go ahead. You were saying something? Okay. [0:27:16, 0:27:20]: I'm gonna ask for the applicant, Ms. Shona John, is she here? [0:27:20, 0:27:21]: If you were please. [0:27:26, 0:27:34]: Are there any questions from the commissioners to the applicant? [0:27:36, 0:27:42]: Uh I'm I'm kinda hold on one second, Miss uh let me let her fill that out a little Okay. [0:27:44, 0:27:45]: Good afternoon to all. [0:27:46, 0:27:52]: Um first and foremost, um make sure the green button is on on the mic at the bottom. Okay. [0:27:52, 0:28:02]: Excuse me about that. Yes. Um the reason for three, I applied for three. We cannot apply for [0:28:02, 0:28:04]: C um more than three. [0:28:04, 0:28:06]: In the city of Henry. [0:28:06, 0:28:07]: Henry County. [0:28:08, 0:28:08]: From the state. [0:28:09, 0:28:21]: You gotta have this um permit before you can allow they can allow you to have more than three, but they are allowing six. It is only because I did not have the permit. [0:28:22, 0:28:23]: From the city. [0:28:23, 0:28:25]: That is why I couldn't put it in. [0:28:25, 0:28:27]: But they have asked me to [0:28:27, 0:28:29]: Get the permit and then [0:28:29, 0:28:31]: reapply for an increase. [0:28:31, 0:28:36]: This is the only reason they gave me the three. I applied for the three. [0:28:37, 0:28:42]: So it's not that that's what they permitted me. That is what I applied for for that reason. [0:28:44, 0:28:45]: Mr. Tibble, you had a question? [0:28:46, 0:28:55]: Uh yes. I I was wondering, did you talk to the city about your qualification? Did they give you all the information that you needed to uh [0:28:56, 0:29:04]: qualify for anything pertaining to the city on the zoning? Up twenty hours today I've been begging and pleading. I even [0:29:05, 0:29:10]: Ask her, I said it wasn't her, it was Miss Um What's her name? [0:29:11, 0:29:13]: K no, Kendra Kendra. [0:29:13, 0:29:13]: Jack. [0:29:14, 0:29:19]: Miss Jackson. Okay. Now I ask her because Go ahead. Go ahead. [0:29:19, 0:29:21]: The first time when I came here. [0:29:22, 0:29:25]: She told me she sent me a notice to bring a proposal. [0:29:26, 0:29:28]: An hour before the meeting. [0:29:28, 0:29:31]: And I told her, how do you expect me to? [0:29:31, 0:29:35]: um prepared a proposal in an hour when I have to drive to come here. [0:29:36, 0:29:40]: She told me, Well just stomp something for your just say what's in your mind. [0:29:41, 0:29:53]: I'm not a public speaker, like I said, it gets me nervous. But um I was doing the best that I can. She told me that you'll have somebody there with you to help you out, you know, but when I came here I was alone. [0:29:53, 0:29:57]: And she had a long list of how many reasons why I shouldn't. [0:29:58, 0:29:59]: Get the the the permit. [0:30:00, 0:30:03]: She told me that she um [0:30:03, 0:30:10]: She advised she said the driveway wasn't right. I don't have enough of um [0:30:12, 0:30:30]: backyard parkings, I didn't have the uh license um for medication administration administrated, I didn't have uh um what else she said I didn't have and all she was saying that I didn't have, I had all of it, but never asked to me. [0:30:30, 0:30:34]: So I emailed her when I left here and I said [0:30:34, 0:30:37]: A lot of what you said was a lie. I don't like that. [0:30:38, 0:30:41]: I like people to be up front with me because [0:30:42, 0:30:44]: I'm trying to do something. I have spent [0:30:45, 0:30:47]: More than I can afford. I had to take loans. [0:30:48, 0:30:49]: To get to where I am right now. [0:30:50, 0:30:52]: And I said, You just want me to give it up. [0:30:53, 0:30:56]: And call it call it the day. That's not the way things work. [0:30:56, 0:30:57]: I said, you gave me the permit. [0:30:58, 0:31:02]: You gave me the permission to broad that property. I didn't go and do it on my own. [0:31:02, 0:31:03]: I went. [0:31:04, 0:31:07]: To zone in and I have the letter right there that stated I could have [0:31:08, 0:31:08]: Two. [0:31:09, 0:31:13]: without the special use permit and if I want free up [0:31:13, 0:31:15]: I have to get a special use permit. [0:31:16, 0:31:24]: There there was no limit, she didn't say to six or four or five, but I know from the state I can only get six in this county. [0:31:25, 0:31:33]: But none of these things, they have not presented me with anything at all. Because I'm saying I even told Miss Um [0:31:34, 0:31:35]: Kendra. [0:31:35, 0:31:41]: that I felt like everybody was working against me. I felt like I was alone. [0:31:41, 0:31:45]: Standing alone with everybody against me. I said, You told me something. [0:31:46, 0:31:46]: But [0:31:47, 0:31:50]: You wrote something else. I say, what is the meaning of that? [0:31:51, 0:31:52]: She told me she was not the one who wrote it. [0:31:53, 0:31:55]: I told her lies will come back to bite you. [0:31:56, 0:32:00]: I don't believe in lies, I don't believe in hypocrisy, I don't believe in people. [0:32:01, 0:32:04]: You know, two faces. Tell me what it is. [0:32:04, 0:32:06]: I ask what do I need? [0:32:06, 0:32:16]: Tell me what I need to reach your standard so I can do what I need to do. Yes ma'am. Never give it nothing nothing to me. And I have pictures to show the property. [0:32:16, 0:32:21]: what I have for safety and the driveway that everybody's so concerned about. [0:32:21, 0:32:27]: I can show you the pictures of the driveway. Please give the pictures to staff. Are there any other questions from the commissioners? [0:32:28, 0:32:30]: Yes, Mr. Chairman. [0:32:30, 0:32:38]: So ma'am, I have a question for you if I could. Yes, I don't. So regarding what the use of this facility would be, how would you handle any medical waste? [0:32:39, 0:32:41]: Etcetera that would not impact your neighbors. [0:32:41, 0:32:45]: Given the fact that are there there are private residences around you. [0:32:45, 0:32:48]: Um, it wouldn't affect the neighbors at all, sir. [0:32:48, 0:33:08]: I have three-sided fans on each side. And for my medical waste, I always dispose my medical from the pharmacy, or when the nurse comes around, they pick it up and what is expired, or I don't use. This is how I dispose my medication. I don't have any medical waste where people can. [0:33:08, 0:33:22]: you know, get into it or anybody's private um information being disposed. I have different ways, I have regulations over how to dispose medication on people's property. [0:33:23, 0:33:37]: Would there be any kind of uh regular and and bear with me, I'm I'm obviously not in this business, but would there be any kind of environmental health or safety regular checks on the facility to confirm that you're [0:33:38, 0:33:46]: Uh the patients' welfare and the the medical waste or any other there would not be. Those patients, all of them most likely is wheelchair down. [0:33:47, 0:33:50]: They cannot go anywhere if you don't take them anywhere. [0:33:51, 0:33:53]: I personally [0:33:53, 0:34:01]: Don't even wanna accommodate somebody that walks because when somebody walks, your eyes gotta be on them 24-7. [0:34:02, 0:34:05]: I mostly accommodate people that are wheelchair bound. [0:34:06, 0:34:12]: That is what I have been doing for four years. This is what I'm gonna continue to do if I have given the chance to do it again. [0:34:14, 0:34:22]: All right, I don't have any no more questions. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any other questions? Yes. Mr. Plancher? Go ahead, go ahead down there. [0:34:23, 0:34:28]: Um, thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak. I I have a issue with this uh [0:34:29, 0:34:46]: requirement because it seem as though all the uh requirements are not met in the rules and regulations and and I'm just looking at some of the information that the staff uh wrote up concerning this property. [0:34:47, 0:34:51]: And I uh so far I still haven't heard anything whether or not [0:34:52, 0:34:55]: Miss John has talked to the neighbors in the community. [0:34:55, 0:34:59]: I I d I haven't heard anything concerning that. [0:35:00, 0:35:05]: and then with staff remarks, I'm kinda concerned that [0:35:06, 0:35:16]: There wasn't uh planning and information presented to her, but I'm also listening to her about that she did get some of the requirements. [0:35:17, 0:35:19]: And from the staff [0:35:19, 0:35:22]: those requirements have not been met. [0:35:27, 0:35:31]: That's it. I'm finished. Thank you, sir. Mr. Planchet, please. [0:35:33, 0:35:45]: You had a question still? Yes, a couple of them. One one my first question is uh uh have you received uh I don't see any mention in your packet of complying with health department code. [0:35:45, 0:35:50]: And have you been certified by the health department to provide this kind of services in your home? [0:35:51, 0:36:11]: Yes, sir. I have the license. I have a CNE license. I have medication license. I have first aid CPR. So I am more than certified to do what I'm doing. Yeah, the health department's different. Also, is your home uh ADA compatible? You have room for people to bring in wheelchairs and turn wheelchairs in the hallway. [0:36:10, 0:36:17]: Yes, sir. And did I hear you say it was two story? No, it's uh ranch house. Okay. [0:36:18, 0:36:32]: with um two um four bedrooms upstairs and two downstairs. Two um I heard she said that I was gonna put two people in a room and um it requires um [0:36:33, 0:36:35]: Eighty square feet per person. [0:36:36, 0:36:42]: The only two rooms that are two people gonna be in is two master bedrooms. [0:36:43, 0:36:44]: One of them is [0:36:50, 0:36:54]: One of them is four hundred and sixteen square feet. [0:36:55, 0:36:56]: And the other one [0:36:56, 0:36:58]: I visit okay. [0:37:01, 0:37:02]: [2223.4, 2227.2]: The other one is free is um two two hundred and [0:37:07, 0:37:09]: Seventy two square feet. [0:37:09, 0:37:22]: The single bedrooms are one is a hundred and forty square feet and the other one is a hundred and twenty eight square feet. So all of the rooms are way above the required square feet. [0:37:26, 0:37:28]: You have any other questions, Mr. Planchet? [0:37:31, 0:37:39]: Okay. Mr. Mid? Yes, I have one more question. I'm sorry. So when we when you came before us last September, one of the concerns was the parking. [0:37:40, 0:37:43]: For the home, and I shi'er that now. [0:37:43, 0:37:52]: Several months later, there's still no consideration for resolving the parking situation. The parking, the reason why she was um concerned about the parking. [0:37:53, 0:37:56]: It because I just got the home, there was debris. [0:37:56, 0:38:01]: The p the first set of people who had the house didn't they didn't clean at all. [0:38:01, 0:38:05]: So there was a lot of debris making the space very small. [0:38:06, 0:38:14]: But I have cleared everything and I have pictures to show you that there is enough way enough space. [0:38:14, 0:38:16]: Yesterday I had a um [0:38:17, 0:38:20]: Big um truck from Home Depot delivered a washer for me. [0:38:21, 0:38:23]: They turn out the back of the house, the long trucks. [0:38:24, 0:38:28]: I just didn't my phone was there. I I was about to take a picture because I said I wanted to show it. [0:38:29, 0:38:30]: So you guys that [0:38:30, 0:38:31]: There is enough space. [0:38:32, 0:38:37]: And I took the pictures, I can pass it on to you where you can see for yourself. [0:38:37, 0:38:42]: There is and I can invite you all at my at the place to see with your own eyes. [0:38:43, 0:38:45]: There is in a space. [0:38:45, 0:38:51]: The backyard is very big. The size is very big. It is one point [0:38:51, 0:38:54]: four seven acres and all of it is cleaned. [0:38:56, 0:39:01]: If I can ask one more question. So in the course of a normal business day, how many cars would you expect? [0:39:02, 0:39:07]: They don't normally have a lot of cars. The nurse will come in sometimes once or twice a week. [0:39:08, 0:39:13]: This um aid will come in every day, sometimes some of them are sign. [0:39:13, 0:39:15]: Once or three times a week. [0:39:16, 0:39:22]: These are all the people. Family members, they come when they have time. Sometimes you see a family member. [0:39:23, 0:39:29]: Sometime once a month. Some of them come every week because everybody's working. That's the main reason they have them over there. [0:39:30, 0:39:31]: We don't have [0:39:31, 0:39:34]: any c congested traffic. We don't have any [0:39:35, 0:39:41]: six, seven cars at a c at a at a place at one time. Never before it has happened, not where I am. [0:39:41, 0:39:42]: Where I used to be, sorry. [0:39:43, 0:39:51]: I haven't seen it before, and I haven't heard of it before. It was the first time hearing of it. I'm saying it this is not a nursing home. [0:39:51, 0:40:00]: Why will there be congested traffic? Why will there be five, six, seven vehicles at one time? And if there is that five, six vehicles, there is enough space for them to pack. [0:40:01, 0:40:07]: At the back of the house, but next to the garage, there is enough space for everybody to buy. Nobody has to be on the street. [0:40:09, 0:40:09]: Okay. [0:40:09, 0:40:16]: Thank you. Thank you. [0:40:17, 0:40:30]: I will now open this case up for public hearing. Is there anyone who would like to speak in favor of the special use permit case SP dash twenty twenty four dash O three? You can ask questions or make comments. So if anyone would like to please speak in favor. [0:40:36, 0:40:44]: Is there anyone that would like to speak against the current special use permit case? Please, sir, make sure you sign a form here. Okay, bring it on up. [0:40:50, 0:40:51]: Yeah, you can give it to a stare. Mm-hmm. [0:40:55, 0:40:57]: Please state your name and address for us, please. [0:41:00, 0:41:04]: My name is Robert Schule. I live at two sixty f or [0:41:05, 0:41:08]: I live across the street, two fifty three Shields Road. [0:41:10, 0:41:25]: She just talked about a truck making a delivery the other day. The truck has to take the right-of-way, almost taking my mailbox out to get in the driveway. The driveway is not wide enough for that. The driveway is across from mine. She they had some trub shrubs removed. [0:41:25, 0:41:42]: A guy had a truck and a trailer. He had to come into my driveway to back up their driveway. There used to be a fence along the front of the property for years. I've been here at that property about twelve years. They just took that down. We had to take the fence down, part of it, so the guy could get out of the yard. [0:41:42, 0:41:43]: Um [0:41:44, 0:41:52]: In the news we've heard m people wandering off. I mean, she just said they were gonna be in wheelchairs, but we've heard of people wandering off elderly people and drowning in ponds. [0:41:54, 0:42:14]: There's a two and a half acre pond across the street between me and my neighbor's house that we share. There is a fence in part of the uh pond, but not all the way up my property. I'm concerned about somebody wandering off and drowning. Um my neighbor on the corner, his mom just around the corner off a flat rock. [0:42:13, 0:42:23]: rock went down in her backyard and slipped and fell and drowned in her pond a couple of months ago. Um that's one of my concerns. Um [0:42:24, 0:42:39]: She said it was a single level. There's two there's a basement in this house with the two bedrooms downstairs. My question was, she's gonna have staff. Is it how many people have to be on duty twenty four hours a day? [0:42:40, 0:42:40]: Um [0:42:41, 0:42:46]: ambulances, like I said, they come down the driveway, everything shines into my house and my bedroom. [0:42:47, 0:43:07]: Both our bedrooms are in the front facing the front. So we're gonna have the lights shining uh in there. We've already got a traffic issue on Shields. Uh I brought this up in another meeting while we were here with speeding. I've been here, I did a petition that went nowhere, been to Henry County Police before Stockbridge Police. [0:43:07, 0:43:10]: They put up the monitor, still nothing. [0:43:11, 0:43:28]: talk to the city of Stockbridge Police, we're still not having any issues, getting it resolved. They're going down the road at sixty, seventy miles an hour. There's a person who lives on Shields if you're heading towards 138 off of Davis. Before you get to the stop sign, he's on the left. He's got a grade job charger. [0:43:28, 0:43:31]: For some reason he just thinks it's a drag race. [0:43:31, 0:43:36]: I stopped by there and said something and was told my own business. I have grandchildren. [0:43:36, 0:43:38]: That are at my property. [0:43:38, 0:43:51]: I'm I don't know who else to talk to. I've asked about putting speed humps in to slow them down. We were told you can't do that. There's always already an issue. We just put all these streetlights up down through there. And I'm like, okay, this sounds good. Now not only are you gonna go down the road. [0:43:52, 0:43:55]: During the day fast, now they're gonna go down the road at night. [0:43:55, 0:43:58]: But we've already got some issues in that area. [0:43:58, 0:44:00]: I'm just concerned that [0:44:02, 0:44:11]: The other I went over and met her husband the day everything was closed. I went over, introduced myself, being a good neighbor. I said, man, this is a big house. [0:44:12, 0:44:14]: How many people are coming? Oh, just me and my wife. [0:44:15, 0:44:35]: Wow, okay. He never said anything about opening a business. He lied right to my face. And that is stings and it stuck with me. That they weren't up front and said this the other neighbors, they're upset about it. But they don't have the time or the nerve to come up here and [0:44:35, 0:44:54]: Say what needs to be said. This is a nice residential area, bunch of families. Um I brought up at the one meeting there was a place on Rockcorey that was vacant. It was a healthcare facility that was vacant, that was available for lease. And she's her passion. She says her pass is her passion. I understand that. That's fine. [0:44:55, 0:45:11]: Rent rent that place out. Whatever. Um, I'm just concerned with the lights coming in my house and ambulance, you know, if something happens, they're gonna be coming through there at what time of night. Um I don't think it's a good idea. [0:45:12, 0:45:15]: That's all I had to say. Thank you so much, sir. Thank you. [0:45:16, 0:45:18]: Is there anyone else that would like to speak against this case? [0:45:21, 0:45:27]: If not, I'll now close the public hearing. The board yes please. [0:45:30, 0:45:36]: Yelanda Barber, one nine seven Talon Place. I am a resident of City Council District Four. [0:45:36, 0:45:39]: Mossel, the city council district representative. [0:45:39, 0:45:49]: of this area. I've spoke with the applicant and also Mr Schultz. Um they're neighbors. They live right across the street from each other. [0:45:50, 0:45:50]: Um [0:45:51, 0:46:09]: I did have concerns in regards to the applicant's request to provide personal care for six residents based on the state code. So please consider that. I don't want to make a decision. [0:46:10, 0:46:26]: Um this is gonna come before the council uh couple of weeks, but I did wanna just for the record state that I am aware of this particular situation and that I've spoken both with the applicant and actually several of the homeowners who live in the area. [0:46:27, 0:46:28]: Um [0:46:29, 0:46:31]: That particular area [0:46:31, 0:46:32]: Was [0:46:32, 0:46:35]: recently annexed into the city in twenty twenty three. [0:46:36, 0:46:36]: Um [0:46:37, 0:46:37]: So [0:46:38, 0:46:46]: I would like to keep in line with what it has been. Um, there hasn't been any businesses um along that stretch of road. [0:46:46, 0:47:06]: It's been majority quiet residential development. I know Mr. Schultz has lived in his home for more than 20 years or so. Um so have the other homeowners who've contacted me. So I just wanted to express they do have concerns in regards to this, the lake across the stream. [0:47:06, 0:47:12]: from where this um special use will be issued if it is approved. [0:47:12, 0:47:13]: Um [0:47:13, 0:47:15]: There are concerns about that. [0:47:15, 0:47:17]: So just wanted to speak for the record. That's all. [0:47:18, 0:47:21]: Thank you so much. And thank you for joining us, Councilman Barber. [0:47:24, 0:47:37]: If there are no other persons that would like to speak on behalf of this case, I will now close the public hearing. The board will now vote on this case. Do I have a motion regarding special use permit case SP dash twenty twenty four dash O three? [0:47:39, 0:47:40]: Mr. Chairman. [0:47:40, 0:47:57]: Yes, sir. Uh all things considered, and I I don't doubt that uh she's very passionate about what she'd like to do. But given the fact that we've gone several months and it doesn't seem that a whole lot of progress has been made, I'm gonna make the motion that we deny uh SP twenty twenty four [0:47:59, 0:48:06]: Mr. Chairman, will you please let the requests for approval go first and then if nobody answers then take request to deny. [0:48:08, 0:48:11]: Well there's already been a motion on the floor, so if Mr. Middle recuses motion. [0:48:11, 0:48:21]: I will. Okay. Uh per Mr Plantin at the end he asked for the motion to be approved first. So is there a motion to approve? [0:48:25, 0:48:26]: Hearing none, [0:48:29, 0:48:38]: In in hearing none, uh Mr. Minn, will you would you like to move forward with your motion to Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make the motion to deny S P twenty twenty four [0:48:39, 0:48:43]: Oh three. Mr. Chairman, I second that. [0:48:43, 0:48:59]: There's a motion by Mr. Minn and a second by Mr. Planchton. Um all those in favor, please indicate by the sound of aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? So moved. S P dash twenty seven four dash O three is denied. [0:49:01, 0:49:12]: You're uh see see it on the record that there are four uh four in favor of the denial and one against, as Miss Walker wants the record to reflect she's against that d uh motion. [0:49:15, 0:49:33]: The next two item on items on tonight's agenda are the Comprehensive Plan Amendment Case CP-2025-02 and rezoning case RZ-2025-03, which are both for the same applicant and the same property. I will read them both into record. [0:49:34, 0:49:54]: After that, we'll have a joint presentation from staff and a joint public hearing of these two cases. Then the board will vote on each case separately. Comprehensive plan amendment case CP-2025-02. Properties located in Council District 4. Consideration for parcel 029-0101. [0:49:54, 0:50:14]: 11001, located between North Train Boulevard and Old Atlanta Road, south of Valley Hill Road, for the purpose of changing the property's future land use destination from low density mixed use to high density misuse to allow for the development of townhomes and office space. Applicant is Templar Development Group, LLC. The agent is Battle Law. [0:50:14, 0:50:25]: Property is located in land lot 90 of District 12 and it contains 9.90 more or less acres of land. The rezoning case, RZ-2025-03. [0:50:26, 0:50:46]: Consideration of a rezoning for the parcel stated previously located between North Terrier Lavard and Old Atlanta Road, south of Valley Hill Road for the purpose of rezoning the property from C three heavy commercial and PMU parkway mixed use overlay district to PUD Planned Unit Development Master Plan and PMU Parkway. [0:50:46, 0:51:03]: Mixed use. Overlay district to allow for the development of townhomes and office space. Uh applicant again is Templar Development. Agent is Battle Law. The property is located in lotland 90 of District 12 and it contains 90, 9.90 more or less acres. Uh I'll now allow for the staff to give the presentation. [0:51:05, 0:51:25]: Thank you, Chairman Williams, uh Commissioner and Staff. My name is Gordon Linton, Senior Planner for the City of Stockbridge. I'm here to present the case for CP 2502 and RZ 2503 for parcel number 029-010-1101 between North Harry Boulevard, Old Atlanta Roads. [0:51:25, 0:51:27]: And south of Valley Hill Road. [0:51:33, 0:51:53]: Case facts, uh as mentioned, the applicant is Templar Development LLC, with the agent being Battle Law PC. The owner is William B. Gilmore and Miriam D. M. Gilmore. As mentioned, the subject property is located between North Herring Boulevard and Old Atlanta Road, south of Valley Hill Road. [0:51:52, 0:52:04]: Subject property spans nine point nine acres and is currently zone C three, which is heavy commercial, and designated in the City of Stockbridge 24 comprehensive plan as low density mixed use. [0:52:09, 0:52:13]: This is the aerial photo of the property with the [0:52:15, 0:52:19]: Where where you see the pointer, that is the location of the uh subject property. [0:52:20, 0:52:24]: And below you have Walmart and the uh surrounding subdivisions. [0:52:29, 0:52:31]: This is the era photo with a side plan. [0:52:42, 0:52:45]: This is the survey of the property that was uh submitted. [0:52:52, 0:53:02]: And this is the when we did the site visit on April second, twenty twenty five, when we posted the signs. The sign is here and then further to the south is the Stockbridge North Shopping Plaza. [0:53:10, 0:53:22]: And this is another picture of the uh site the signs that was posted that day. And further down is the Stockbridge North Plaza and over here is the site. And note that they are also widening the uh roads in the area. [0:53:30, 0:53:32]: Development information. [0:53:39, 0:53:59]: Templar Development is proposing a 9.90-acre mixed-use residential community with office space on the western side of North Herring Boulevard. The project features 98 attached townhomes with bricks exterior and two-car garages. The key infrastructure elements include a stormwater, [0:53:59, 0:54:19]: Management facility and lift station by Clay County, Water Authority, a hammerhead turnaround on Otal Lana Road to improve the emergency vehicle access, a ten foot concrete sidewalk along State Route 42 and US Highway 23 for pedestrian safety. The community amenities include an office. [0:54:19, 0:54:39]: Building with eight parking spaces, five-foot mulch walking walking trail, a top lock for families, and a dog park. And the home ranges from 1200 to 1500 square feet with the following setbacks: a 10-foot front yard setback, five-foot side yard setbacks along the exterior, and a 10-foot separate. [0:54:39, 0:54:40]: Yeah. [0:54:45, 0:54:45]: Mm-hmm. [0:54:53, 0:54:55]: So this is the site. [0:54:56, 0:54:59]: The side plan shown? Uh let's see. [0:55:01, 0:55:01]: Okay. [0:55:02, 0:55:11]: So as you can see, this is the Dow Park. This is the top lot uh where my mouse is. This is the stormwater management facility. [0:55:13, 0:55:29]: This is the proposed lift station. And this is the ten foot sidewalk uh along State Route 23. Uh this is the office space building. And they also have the hammerhead turnaround for emergency access vehicle only on Old Orlanta Road. [0:55:45, 0:55:48]: This is the development data of the proposed development. [0:55:55, 0:55:58]: These are the elevations of the proposed development as well. [0:56:14, 0:56:17]: Moving on to CP twenty five-0 two. [0:56:18, 0:56:30]: As mentioned, the applicant's request is to change the future land use density from low density mixed use to high density mixed use to allow for a mixed use development that will include nine eight units and office space. [0:56:32, 0:56:37]: This is the comprehensive plan which uh talks about the high density mix use. [0:56:43, 0:56:54]: And the surrounding land use designation, the vicinity of the area is mostly low density mixed use, low density residential, medium density residential, and high density residential. [0:56:55, 0:56:57]: And this is the future land use map. [0:57:02, 0:57:05]: With my with the pointer showing the location of the property. [0:57:11, 0:57:30]: And this is the the range as far as the densities. Uh is nine point nine units per acre. However, there are five seventy six Davis Road, which with six units per acre, and the Victory Worship Center, which has fifty six units with five point six five units per acre. So overall it meets the compatibility of the area. [0:57:34, 0:57:36]: This is the surrounding land use density map. [0:57:43, 0:58:03]: And then staff analysis. The key points to from the staff analysis is that the PUD zoning is compatible with all the future land use designations, including the proposed high density mixed use. The current low density mixed use designation only allows up to 3.9 units per acre. The proposed 9.9 units per acre exceeds this. [0:58:03, 0:58:06]: Which requires a change to high density mix use? [0:58:07, 0:58:16]: And rezoning to PUD allows the site to accommodate a walkable, mixed use neighborhood while maintaining consistent adjacent uses like Valley Hill Station. [0:58:22, 0:58:25]: And therefore staff recommends approval for the comp plan. [0:58:30, 0:58:33]: Moving on to the resulting for RZ twenty five dash zero three. [0:58:37, 0:58:46]: As mentioned, the applicant's request is to rezone from C three and the PMU to PUD to allow for the development of the townhomes and office space. [0:58:48, 0:59:08]: This is the surrounding zoning property information. The vicinity of the proposed development is mostly residential and commercial, with the following zoning districts: PUD, Pan Union Development, MFR, which is multifamily residential, C3, which is heavy commercial, C2, which is general commercial, RR rural residential, [0:59:08, 0:59:14]: Residential, SR, Suburban Residential, and C C R, which is City Center Residential. [0:59:16, 0:59:20]: This is the zoning map of the property with my pointer showing the uh location. [0:59:27, 0:59:31]: This is the overlay map showing the property in the uh Parkway mixed use overlay district. [0:59:43, 1:00:00]: In the staff analysis, as far as the key points, the proposed development aligns with the Stockbridge long-term goals for housing diversity, walkability, and flexible development. The project is designed to serve as a thoughtful transition between commercial and residential zones. [1:00:02, 1:00:07]: The development is well supported by existing infrastructure and designed to minimize traffic concerns. [1:00:12, 1:00:32]: And the fourth point is that the property is currently zone C three heavy commercial, which allows for automotive services, gas station, and self-storage. However, the area is already saturated with auto-related businesses, including Greenway, Auto Parts, Auto Tech Customs, Tire Solutions, and Fabulous Used Car. [1:00:32, 1:00:49]: Another gas station, another auto shop or a self-storage facility will contribute to traffic congestion and limited economic growth, resulting to PUD will encourage walkability, reduce congestion, promote a live workplay environment, and support the city long-term economic goals. [1:00:59, 1:01:19]: And therefore, staff recommends approval with the following conditions. The subject property shall be developed according to a revised site plan, which was prepared by Atwell LLC on April 7, 2025. The title is Resonance Site Plan North Henry Boulevard Track. Two, the proposed mixed use development shall adhere to the architectural renderings. [1:01:19, 1:01:39]: Submitted with the application on March 10th, including the use of brick as the exterior material. 3. The developer shall install black street light poles. 4. Decorative street lights shall be installed along the frontage of North Henry Boulevard. 5. Fly cameras shall be installed at the entrance of the mixed-use development. 6. [1:01:39, 1:01:59]: The developers shall adhere to the MFR development standards found in Section 2.4 of the Stock Bridge Unified Code. In addition, the developers shall adhere to the Parkway Mix use overlay district standards found in Section 2.52E of the Stock Bridge Unified Development Code. Seven, the developers shall include one or more central transfer structure. [1:01:59, 1:02:19]: Facility. Eight, a mandatory tonehome HOA shall be established. Nine, the developers shall comply with all the Clay and County Water Authority, state EPD and federal EPA requirements to provide water and cylinder facilities for the mixed use development. 10. Access to old Atlanta roads shall be restricted. [1:02:19, 1:02:28]: To emergency vehicles only, a gate with a knocks box shall be installed to prevent general traffic flow while ensuring emergency access. [1:02:28, 1:02:45]: As required by the fire marshal. Eleven, the HOA shall occupy no more than fifty percent of the office building. And twelve, a twenty five foot buffer shall be established along the northern, southern, and eastern portion of the subject property. And that concludes my presentation. [1:02:46, 1:03:06]: Thank you, Gordon. Um I have two questions specifically uh in regards to the staff recommendation of approval. Uh what factors specifically led well I'm not against it, it is a majority residential area, what factors led to uh you all to conclude that development would be compatible with the characters like the with the [1:03:06, 1:03:26]: uh building and construction already of the area. And then uh let me let me add to my second question. Um, what specific infrastructure evaluations did you all conduct uh for us to ensure that the proposed high-density mixed-use development can be supported without the overburdening of existing city services? [1:03:26, 1:03:33]: Uh, I'm not sure if you're [1:03:34, 1:03:54]: Well first of all, um we examined we contrasted the um the applicant's proposal against the criteria criteria that's and standards that are in the um in the P in the UDC and we did an objective analysis and we reached those conclusions. And second, as far as infrastructure um [1:03:54, 1:04:00]: They they received a letter from uh Clayton County Water Authority saying that they have the capacity. [1:04:03, 1:04:22]: Mr. Chairman, I'd also like to make mention that we are here for just these two items. One aligning the property with the land use plan and the second is rezoning it accordingly. We're not here looking at any development plan that we're needing to approve or disapprove. Absolutely. So we're just looking at the land use update and the rezoning. [1:04:22, 1:04:26]: Yes, sir. Ms. Walker. Mr. Chair. Uh yes. [1:04:26, 1:04:42]: thing. I'm not I may not be well versed in this area, but my question is, uh, you know, I don't know if anybody can answer this, but what what was the inspiration behind, you know, moving from low density to to high density? [1:04:43, 1:05:03]: So currently the low deck. And let me just fin uh I'm sorry. Uh the reason the reason being because is because I used to live in another county and uh a few years ago um when I when I w was in Fulton County, um there was a land that was being developed. [1:05:03, 1:05:12]: And there was a vast majority of of of trees cut down and all of a sudden development just stopped. [1:05:12, 1:05:25]: And so I'm just curious as to, you know, is is is something like that gonna happen in this area. I want to know the like the inspiration be behind the low moving from low density to high density. [1:05:26, 1:05:42]: So currently it's zone uh low density mix use, which is c incompatible with their requested um mix with their requested future land use, which is high density mixed use. So therefore they have to um re Yeah, they have to change the future land use designation. [1:05:42, 1:06:02]: Yeah, I I understand. I was just saying like can we just you know why couldn't they just work with what they already have with the low density? That's I was just concerned about that with regard to the project probably wouldn't be feasible. So we'll limit the amount of units they can have on the property to around to a maximum of three point nine per unit. [1:06:02, 1:06:20]: Uh and uh we have in code as it relates to the trees, the question about the trees, there is a tree um replacement plan uh that has to be submitted during the LDP phase, the land disturbance permit phase to address the cutting down of trees. [1:06:21, 1:06:21]: Okay. [1:06:22, 1:06:23]: Okay, thank you. [1:06:24, 1:06:26]: Thank you. Are there any other questions for staff on the board? [1:06:27, 1:06:29]: Yes, Mr. Chairman. Yes, sir. I have one. [1:06:29, 1:06:37]: Um scoring I don't know is y the question I have might be better suited for the applicant. So is the applicant here this evening? Okay. Yes. All right, I'll I'll wait. Thank you. [1:06:38, 1:06:42]: At this time I'll allow for the applicant to come and uh speak or give his presentation. [1:06:46, 1:06:47]: There you go. [1:06:57, 1:07:14]: Good evening, Michelle. Battle with Battle Law, 3562, Habersham at North Lake, Tucker, Georgia, three zero zero eight four. I'll try not to be too redundant, but there are some things I'd like to point out. How much time do I have? Ten minutes. Ten minutes, okay. Um but we got two applications. I don't get twice as much time. [1:07:15, 1:07:35]: Okay, thank you. I appreciate that. Not that I might need it, but I figure, you know. Um so as indicated by staff, um this property it was recently annexed into the city of Stockbridge and is zone C three um and was incorporated into um was and as it was in unincorporated Henry County. [1:07:35, 1:07:55]: The overlay district, being the parkway mixed use, does allow up to 45 units per acre, and that is what covers this area and is a part of that overlay district. And the applicant is seeking to develop, and I apologize on this slide, I had the wrong number, but 98 units at a density of 9.9 units per acre. [1:07:55, 1:07:55]: Yeah. [1:07:56, 1:08:16]: The future land use map is an interesting challenge because right now the low density mixed use designation is not consistent with the Parkway mixed use district. Um if you look at the um zoning designations that are allowed under low density mixed use, um you will see [1:08:16, 1:08:36]: That it indicates that Downtown Village Overlay District, O and I, and C1 are the districts that are consistent with the low density mixed juice, which means that the parkway designation, the overlay district, is not consistent. [1:08:36, 1:08:56]: And our PUD request is not consistent. And therefore the low density mixed use designation simply is not consistent with the overlay district that has been placed over this district. So in fact, if you were trying to rezone or develop right now under even the C3. [1:08:56, 1:09:15]: The C3 is not consistent with the low density mixed use. And so that is why we are seeking a change in the land use designation to high density, which is in fact consistent with the parkway mixed use overlay district designation for the property. So once again. [1:09:17, 1:09:37]: The current zoning and the overlay district both are inconsistent with the current land use designation for the property. And typically, particularly with regards to the parkway mixed use, that is the overlay district that really is a guiding force for the major. [1:09:37, 1:09:57]: Major intersections throughout the count um throughout the city that was put in place in order to allow for growth and development and mixed use along those corridors. Therefore, in my opinion, that should supersede the underlying land use that is currently there that is not consistent. This site located south. [1:09:57, 1:10:17]: Of Valley Hill Road along North Henry is a corridor that has not seen much new development. In fact, even the residential communities that are surrounding it are older residential communities. So there's been no real new development in this area along this part of the corridor in quite some time, and is a corridor. [1:10:17, 1:10:37]: Corridor that quite honestly could use some uplift and facelift. If you've driven down that corridor, you can see here we've got what looks like a very car-centric oriented use on the other side, used car and as well as other [1:10:37, 1:10:55]: Non residential uses that are along that corridor that quite honestly are older in use, more auto-centric, and really could use an influx of new development to come in and uplift this particular area of the city. [1:10:57, 1:11:17]: We know that GDOT is currently doing the road widening as staff has already indicated. From the perspective of traffic along here, I actually have before you the GDOT information concerning the road improvements that will be directly in front of this property. There will be a median strip and a left turn lane. [1:11:17, 1:11:36]: So you will not be able to turn left into this community. You will have to go up once you turn right in. It'll be a right in, right out. You will be able to go to the light. And then there will be a left turn, kind of U-turn lane that you will be able to make to go back the other direction on North Henry Boulevard. [1:11:40, 1:12:00]: In terms of the site plan, again, we've got 98 fee simple townhome units. Minimum for the office space is 1,296 square feet. That building's 36 by 36. It is quite possible that it may be slightly bigger, depending upon kind of final decisions. [1:11:59, 1:12:19]: With regards to that building, but that is certainly the minimum size. The intent here with that building, um, well, I'll talk about that in a minute, but the building itself um will be an office building to be used on the site. And then there's also the two points of entry, um, which staff has also made reference to, one off of um north. [1:12:19, 1:12:39]: Henry and the other off of Old Atlanta Road, which is a partially opened street. And we'll talk a little bit more about that as well. Again, we're at 9.9 units per acre on this site. And we believe that that is reasonable, particularly when looking again at the parkway mixed use, which allows for up to 40. [1:12:39, 1:12:59]: Five units per acre. We're not even attempting to get that far. And what that really means is that when you're at that high of a density, you're talking about apartments. We believe that putting in fee simple home ownership along this corridor to keep eyes on the street and eyes within this part of um [1:12:59, 1:13:19]: an area that is truly needing of redevelopment is better um as opposed to putting some type of single family detached home, which really would make no sense on this corridor. No one um I think uh most of the um real estate uh agents and brokers will tell you don't buy a house on a double, you know, single family [1:13:19, 1:13:22]: det detached home on a double lane highway. [1:13:23, 1:13:43]: I believe that kind of holds for some type of single family detached type product that would be similar to the other summer um single family detached product in the area. We think that this is kind of the middle ground. Instead of having multifamily here, that we are encouraging home ownership, these units will be very nice units. [1:13:43, 1:14:03]: And I think you'll see that as we continue through this process. The office building will be for small businesses that don't require a lot of parking. We know that the HOA will own the building. They will be able to utilize no more than 50% of the space. So if they want to have a community meeting or things of that. [1:14:03, 1:14:23]: nature they'll be able to do that within the space but the rest of the space they will be able to rent out and that really allows the HOA to have you know some more investment in this community. Our hope is that maybe one or two of the residents that live within this community will actually utilize that office space for themselves and be able to grow their businesses and start businesses a [1:14:22, 1:14:26]: Along this corridor that will also contribute to the uplift of this area. [1:14:28, 1:14:48]: When we look at the site data, we've got minimum unit sizes at 1,400 square feet with three to four bedrooms, parking spaces. We've got two car garages with the two parking spaces in front, and these units we anticipate will be in the low to mid 300s, which means that the average person that's qualifying for those. [1:14:48, 1:14:50]: [4490.1, 4510.1]: There would be a young professional, might be someone who's single that really doesn't have any kids. That's kind of the folks that this project will be marketed to. It's not really a major kid-oriented type environment. Those who probably want to spend$350,000 on a unit would be able to probably go buy a house for that. [1:15:10, 1:15:30]: If they need a bigger space for their families. So this is really typically for more empty nesters. Our amenities include the tot lot, a dog park, and a mulch walking trail that connects into the sidewalk system, as we have shown here on the site plan. And then with regards to the unopened park. [1:15:29, 1:15:38]: Portion of Old Atlanta Road that normally would have uh connected down to um I can never can remember the name of the street, I think it's Valley. [1:15:40, 1:16:00]: Valley Hill, sorry. Um and having driven out there, uh you don't see any evidence of old uh Atlanta Road when you go down Valley Hill. You only see it if you come down through the back um street, and that's why I think it is appropriate as staff has indicated for that to be a knocks box only, but that does allow [1:16:00, 1:16:20]: If there's any type of congestion along North Henry Boulevard, for cars to be um for um fire and safety vehicles to be able to come through that back entrance, and that's what's most important is that if anything ever happened along that stretch, they would still be able to access. You can see here from this plan that um there's an asphalt um [1:16:20, 1:16:40]: Roundabout at the very back end that back ends onto our property. So that street does not go beyond that. We will be um putting that into more of a T foun uh formation you'll see here where that will allow the emergency vehicles to be able to come in and come out of that space and putting the Knox box. [1:16:40, 1:17:00]: There would not be a problem. The other thing, though, that I think is important to see is that there is basically almost a buffer between us and the rear of the homes on the other side. So we're looking at about 40 feet of width between us and those homes to the east of [1:17:00, 1:17:20]: Of the site, in addition to the roughly 14 feet of setback that we have on or buffer that we have along the perimeter of this property. So we're talking about basically over 40 feet, 50 feet of distance between us. My math is bad. I think that's 55. [1:17:19, 1:17:29]: between us and um the rear of the um other um homes, the single family detached homes on the other side. In terms of visuals. [1:17:30, 1:17:50]: This is a great product that we're bringing in. Templar Development is a newer company with folks who have been in this business for over 30 years. We've got Jay Knife here with us. They call Knife Homes. They have done a ton of developments over the last 30 plus years. They are local developers. [1:17:50, 1:18:10]: And so they are very committed to this area in bringing in a quality product. When you look at the townhome units that are being proposed, they've come with more decorative garages, if that's flavored that the city would like with both a stone or brick textures on the majority with the more. [1:18:09, 1:18:29]: We've got a couple of different looks, and depending upon what the land preference and style is. We also have some other units that can also be incorporated with modifications in the garage door design if that's something that the city would like. But once again, um [1:18:29, 1:18:40]: trying to use a more architecture that incorporates different textures with regards to the size of the building. [1:18:42, 1:19:02]: So once again, we think that this is an appropriate location. They're not far from the bar. This is a very kind of suburban area along this part of the corridor. We want to see growth and development and improvement along this part. As you said, it's just recently been brought into the city. [1:19:02, 1:19:15]: We feel like this is a good first step in terms of bringing new development along this portion of the corridor. We'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have. And again, we do have a representative from Templar here with us. [1:19:16, 1:19:17]: Like your basis. [1:19:18, 1:19:24]: Thank you so much, Ms. Battle. Are there any questions from the commission to the applicant? [1:19:24, 1:19:35]: Mr. Chair, I have one. Uh is there a time frame where this project is gonna be completed? Yes. Oh Jay, you wanna I'll let um Jay Knight come up. [1:19:37, 1:19:37]: Yeah. [1:19:37, 1:19:57]: I'm sorry, what was the question? My name is Jay Knight with uh Knight Homes and Templar Development. Yes, is there is there a time frame where this will be completed and and also um are you able to share like the the makeup of the what these units will be made up of, like hardywood and plank? [1:19:57, 1:20:15]: Sure. Thank you. I d I'd sitting here, I was my first zoning meeting in Stockbridge was a little over forty years ago. And my father and I were uh zoning a piece of property on Flippin' Road. And I think I was trying to count be [1:20:15, 1:20:35]: probably built well over a thousand homes in this probably within two miles of uh this this location. Um the the neighborhood if we if we are successful with our zoning, which would be another during this next month, we would be about four months before we up [1:20:35, 1:20:55]: can file our engineering for a land disturbance permit. A land disturbance permit, although municipalities we would love for them to turn them around in 90 days, some they're taking as long as nine months. So um so that's 13, 14 months. It'll take about a year to put it on the ground. So [1:20:54, 1:21:14]: So that's 26 months. Then it will take six months to get home standing, ready to sell and occupy. So we're at 32 months, almost three years before anybody will move in there. Then we will be, if we're fortunate, we would sell about three. [1:21:14, 1:21:24]: three homes a month. And that puts us another three years. So from today till complete build out, we would think would be around six years. [1:21:26, 1:21:46]: The the the homes themselves all feature predominant um uh brick on the on the fronts. We use painted siding, um hardy type siding or cement fiber siding. Uh I had put together night homes sold to DRB homes and I [1:21:46, 1:22:06]: put together that uh Diamante project on East Atlanta Road. It was 195 homes. As a matter of fact, we just completed Templar. We went we just finished building the swim uh playground for them if you've seen that neighborhood. And it looks fantastic. Um we we will have Hardy here. [1:22:06, 1:22:26]: We have um we believe this is a wonderful location for this neighborhood. If you, in addition to everything we did here in in Stockbridge through the years, if you continued on up the highway towards 675, you'd pass another neighborhood that we did almost 30 years ago called Biscan. [1:22:26, 1:22:46]: Point. And that one is in Rex, just barely in clay into Clayton County. Very successful, and it really helped set the tone there because adjacent to that neighborhood was a bunch of um of kind of an assortment of lots that were never built. Over here, across the street from us here, we have a [1:22:46, 1:23:06]: a um a kind of a junkyard parts place and behind that is this this massive old uh uh mobile home community that's been there forever. It's here before we were here forty years ago. And so we're confident this is an upgrade to the area. We're very confident in the area. We've [1:23:06, 1:23:26]: Uh we're if if you have Horton Breez on in one, DR's not DR Horton's not gonna come talk to you and and um and Mr. Pulti's not coming, Mr. Lenar is not coming, but we are here and we compete with all those folks um uh easily and successfully. [1:23:26, 1:23:37]: And we're here. Uh there's uh we've been my business partner is a Henry County resident and um and we've been around this area for years. Okay. [1:23:37, 1:23:50]: Good job. Thank you. And last question, is it safe to say this project is going to take six years, or is it safe to say uh the price is gonna be increased drastically? [1:23:50, 1:24:10]: I'd hate that, uh, but it's probably safe to say. The reason one thing, when we started building in Stockbridge years ago, there were large tracts of land to build. When we did North Bridge Station, it was close to a hundred acres. That was in 1985. Around 1990, we did North Wind at the corner of uh Walt Stevens Road. [1:24:10, 1:24:30]: Road and Flippin', that was over 100 acres. We did Glen Addy over on Tye Street, that was about an 80-acre site. Diamante was a large site. We did Pine Grove on Valley Hill Road over there. That was about a 90-acre site. The truth of the matter is, last [1:24:30, 1:24:50]: Land cost hasn't changed that much in the last 30 years. But what has happened is the piece of land that are available in successful cities like Stockbridge have gotten smaller and smaller because people like me have bought all the big tracks through the years. And so if we wanted to do a detaxed community on this site, one, the development costs are one of [1:24:50, 1:25:10]: these name these houses have to be over$300,000. If we were to try to do a detached community on nine acres, one, you wouldn't do it. There was there you might get 20, 20 building sites on it. It just wouldn't work. There's no point in even trying to make that work. In addition, [1:25:10, 1:25:30]: Though, let's say you wanted to do that, your land cost would be thirty, forty thousand dollars of land, but your development cost to do that much detached the big frontages that you have to do, that would be almost ninety thousand dollars. So now you're at$120,000 just for that part of the lot that has to transfer. [1:25:30, 1:25:50]: to a I'm sorry for this economics lesson, but man, it helped me when I heard it. So now we're at$90,000. There's a there's a transfer to the builder. When the the the development developer goes to the builder, it's got about 30% margin. So we're at$90,000, divide that by 0.7. Now we're at a$130,000 [1:25:50, 1:25:50]: Yeah. [1:25:51, 1:26:11]: And so what we would need, uh, and I think y'all probably are familiar with the 20% rule, so you want your building lot to occupy twenty percent of your retail sales price. Well, if we're on a hundred thirty thousand dollar lot, what would need to be economically feasible would be a six hundred fifty-thousand dollar [1:26:11, 1:26:31]: Our house on Highway 42 on a detached lot. I I cannot imagine that succeeding. And so what we believe will succeed is a, I mean, 300, these people are gonna have to make a household incomes over$80,000 apiece. So that's significant. [1:26:31, 1:26:42]: And we're gonna do it great. It's gonna be a great job. Um, it's gonna stand out and it's gonna be a wonderful uh gateway as you're coming south on 42 as opposed to what's there right now. [1:26:44, 1:26:47]: Are there any questions from the board members? Mr. Plant? [1:26:50, 1:26:51]: Go ahead, sir. [1:26:52, 1:27:07]: Oh, um I know we're not here to vote on your development project today, but I'll just for my edification, the gr the buffer zone you're having between this development, proposed development, and th th the other homes back there. Is that gonna be a green space or wooded space? [1:27:08, 1:27:28]: So um that will be green space. I've got it up on the board now. Um there will be fourteen inches roughly of green space. Then you've got the rear yard for that unit before you actually get to the unit itself. Um and then on the other side um we've got um some park area, dog park area when we get um first. [1:27:28, 1:27:48]: Further down onto the site. So some of the residents on the other side all they're gonna see is that continued green strip where the unopen road is at. On the other side of that will be some more grass and some improvement, some amenity. [1:27:48, 1:28:08]: area on the far end of the project and then you'll have the uh Knox box and the little street entrance on the other far corner and that will be it. And so they they will still be very protected. I don't see that the city has any incentive to reopen um old national. We we in fact check to see whether or not it had [1:28:08, 1:28:16]: formally been abandoned and that may be something that um might be pursued if the city is interested in in in doing that. Okay. Thank you. [1:28:17, 1:28:18]: Mr. Batman. [1:28:20, 1:28:40]: Yeah. Um so and maybe I'm crossing a line here, so I want to be very careful. So there's quite a bit of property available to the north as well. This seems like a very small slice of all the available property. So is there consideration for future acquisition of the property to expand this? We have we have [1:28:40, 1:28:45]: approach the owners of that property and they have no plans to sell. [1:28:45, 1:28:51]: Uh but if that were to be available, certainly I would I would like to think we would be available to pursue it. [1:28:52, 1:29:07]: And one last question, I'm sorry. So I'm I'm I live very close to this. So I'm intimate I said I I live very close to this area. So I'm intimately familiar um with this piece of property. So just from a visual [1:29:09, 1:29:13]: Our ninety eight homes, uh quite a bit of [1:29:14, 1:29:26]: shall I say, um, property to be putting on this nine point plus acres, and roads and parking for any visitors, etcetera. [1:29:27, 1:29:36]: Parking exceeds the s standards fairly significantly. And [1:29:39, 1:29:45]: Y no, not by the not by density standards. We work all over the southeast. Okay. And [1:29:46, 1:30:06]: That's just not how it considered h I think your own high density called for up to forty forty five units, Bring. I mean, your system only calls high density for you all this twenty I think it's only twenty units, um, even though the parkway overlay allows up to forty-five. I'm not sure um how they're characterizing that for your [1:30:06, 1:30:12]: high density, but you all your high is other people's medium, truthfully. [1:30:13, 1:30:28]: So so no, I don't I don't think that in our s we have had a lot of success in this area. So we're kinda we've we we've understood the market for forty years. I th I I'm confident this is the right that this is a will be a successful project. Um [1:30:29, 1:30:31]: I don't know beyond that what to say. [1:30:32, 1:30:49]: No, I and and I apologize. I mean from a rendering perspective it just looks like a lot to me. It is. It I think that the thing to keep in mind though is that when you look at what the parkway overlay district encourages when it comes to density. [1:30:49, 1:31:09]: Um it is leaning, it's bending towards a more multi-family type product, which could bring even more density. We didn't come in asking for that multi-family type product. Um, particularly uh a lot of people when they think of mixed use, they always think of you know apartments above retail or something. [1:31:09, 1:31:29]: type of flats above a retail. But in order to make those kind of projects work, you really have to pack in the density to make it make any sense. And so we believe that this is again kind of that middle ground where we're not oversaturating by putting that kind of multifamily type product [1:31:29, 1:31:49]: or coming forward with a multifamily type product, even if we did it at the density we have now, you're still, you know, it's just the utilization of the ground area that we're looking at and how it's still walkable, it's still attractive to those who want to live in that style. [1:31:49, 1:31:51]: Everybody doesn't like a town home. [1:31:51, 1:32:11]: Um but there are many people, there are many people who are out here buying town homes now. That's a lifestyle choice. For those who want a single family detach, that's great. For those who want to live in an apartment, that's fine. For those who want a town home, there should be that diversity of product. And we don't really see that over in this immediate corridor. But we do believe that this is appropriate, particularly [1:32:11, 1:32:14]: when you're on what is getting ready to be a four lane highway. [1:32:16, 1:32:36]: And and one last question, I'm sorry. Um and I know we're here to talk about the the rezoning specifically, but I do I am interested from a home ownership perspective, are there any controls on and I'm pardon me for being ignorant of this fact, but are there any controls over leasing that these will be strictly purchased homes and not leased so by [1:32:36, 1:32:54]: any means. We we are okay with having a rental restriction. I'm not sure if um staff I can't remember w what the conditions were, but I thought I saw one um with regards to a rental restriction, but we are um open to that if that's uh desirable. Okay. Ten percent. Ten percent. [1:32:55, 1:32:59]: All right, that's that's it. Thank you. Okay, I have a few questions. Um [1:33:00, 1:33:20]: One let and it's some are gonna be like, you know, kind of fast rounds, so just bear with me. But considering the proposed density for the nine point nine units per acre, more or less, um, and s which far exceeds the nearby residential uh densities that are typically what one to two point eight acres per acre. Um, how I guess with this development maintain the [1:33:20, 1:33:27]: compatibility and minimize the disruption uh between the adjacent lower density neighborhoods like the Valley Hill station. [1:33:28, 1:33:48]: Well, that's why I was making a point about the buffer. So we do have that street that provides some buffering between us. Um this is right now a commercial corridor. How do you provide that with what's there now? I mean, when we look at the C three zoning district and what uses could go there, I think that this use is much more [1:33:48, 1:34:05]: um appropriate between us and the adjacent um residential community. Those are older communities. This provides a transition into the more heavier commercial uses on the other side of the street. [1:34:05, 1:34:25]: That is, in my opinion, good planning because you never I think there's always a challenge when you have more intense commercial uses immediately abutting residential uses on the other side. They've been living with that for a very long time. We don't have real access into we don't have any access into their community. [1:34:25, 1:34:45]: Um this community is fronting on a um minor arterial road whereas their homes are fronting on local roads. So they will continue to live their lives exactly the way they're living them. Um we will have buffering between the two of us and these units will be facing onto this um [1:34:45, 1:34:54]: four lane highway that will allow for the traffic that this project will generate to be handled and not be a burden on the rest of that community. [1:34:55, 1:35:12]: So the only reason I ask is'cause I'm trying to wear, you know, the hat of a commissioner and then as a community neighbor,'cause I've also lived in that that neighborhood, I know for a fact that the city is kinda upside down when it comes down to our financial aspect where the residents are paying more of the taxes instead of the commercial. Um and so I [1:35:13, 1:35:33]: Again, I I'm just trying to think, you know, future wise. One, I know you put on the uh slide already the the tow junk it's a junkyard. It's not even like a tow a car shop, it's a it's a junkyard. So I mean who one, who wants to live across from a junkyard? But two, I would definitely not directly across from it. It's kind of cataporned but nonetheless. [1:35:33, 1:35:37]: Um I I hear what you're saying. I think that um [1:35:40, 1:35:50]: Right now this property at zone C three is also not in alignment. Somebody could come in, you know, if they wanted and and build on it tomorrow without having to come before this board. This area is in transition. [1:35:51, 1:35:55]: And in order for it to transition, in my opinion. [1:35:55, 1:35:58]: Um and what we have seen over years is that [1:35:58, 1:36:18]: The residential coming into a corridor like this jump starts the process. When other businesses see that money is being invested, particularly by homeowners coming into a corridor and trying to help move it in a different direction because they have the socioeconomic power to do so. Um [1:36:18, 1:36:22]: there may be an opportunity for a um [1:36:23, 1:36:43]: Uh cafe or a different type of restaurant to go there as opposed to more auto-centric type uses like um the junkyard across the street. Um the hope is that at some point somebody will offer that junkyard enough money that they'll leave. Um same thing for some of the other um businesses that are not really in alignment. [1:36:43, 1:37:03]: With that Parkway overlay district. The whole point, I assume, of the overlay district is to help transition that area into something different than what it is, and to make it more walkable, to make it more attractive visually as well to the residents who live within that area. [1:37:03, 1:37:15]: And so we're trying to bring more homeowners along that corridor to say, hey, we're here and and please come and join us along this corridor, as opposed to leaving it looking and being the way that it is today. [1:37:15, 1:37:35]: Well that kinda goes back to what I was saying. As the my concern is not of the residents being across, but I'm again the taxpayers in the city are paying the majority of and I know I'm not they'll be paying as well. At three hundred and fifty thousand dollars, they'll be paying too. So okay, remind me, what are the what are the uh feat? What's the feat of the sidewalks for the [1:37:37, 1:37:45]: Like did y'all did I tell us that? Um I know we're not we are compliant with what the city requires. I believe there's six foot wide sidewalks, but [1:37:46, 1:37:57]: Uh ten feet along the frontage and then within the interior the six feet. Awesome. And then uh and thank you. Any other I I have another question, but I'll go to staff. Any questions for the board members? [1:37:58, 1:38:00]: Okay, thank you so much. Thank you. [1:38:02, 1:38:13]: And then uh staff, while they why before I open the public hearing, let me ask with all with these additional residents, if it is approved, would that go against the city's code for assembly facilities? [1:38:14, 1:38:19]: Would it go against the code for assembly facilities with the additional residents coming in with this development? [1:38:21, 1:38:21]: Okay. [1:38:22, 1:38:42]: All right. Well, this is a public hearing. Um, so I will now open this public hearing up. If you are in favor um and you would like to speak in favor of uh the comprehensive plan amendment case CP-2025-02 and or the rezoning case RZ-2025-03, uh please fill out the form and you may come up now if you are in favor. [1:38:42, 1:38:42]: Favor. [1:38:46, 1:38:58]: All right. Hearing and seeking none. If if there is there anyone uh who would like to speak against the current rezoning and comprehensive plan case, uh please make sure you fill out a form and we have the floor now. Please, ma'am. [1:39:03, 1:39:06]: Yes. You can fill it out after or give it to staff if you'd like. [1:39:07, 1:39:09]: Please state your name and address for us. [1:39:12, 1:39:30]: Gwen Mack, three seven seven Grove Hill Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia. I live in the Valley Hill Station subdivision. Um I disapprove of this. I know Henry County and Stockbridge, you know, we it's growth, growth, growth. [1:39:30, 1:39:44]: But most of the residents, and I hear you saying older residential areas, well, I'm I'm speaking for myself, but most of the the residents that moved in, that's why we moved in the area, because we wanted an older, quieter residential area. [1:39:44, 1:39:48]: We moved to Stockbridge because we didn't want to be in Atlanta with [1:39:49, 1:39:52]: with the tall buildings and all that. So [1:39:52, 1:39:57]: And then so I disapprove of this zoning because I came to a meeting before [1:39:58, 1:40:00]: On the other side of our subdivision [1:40:01, 1:40:02]: Із гана бі а черж. [1:40:02, 1:40:03]: Or some type of [1:40:04, 1:40:09]: building or you rezoning something on the other side of our subdivision, then at the end [1:40:10, 1:40:11]: A Valley Hill. [1:40:11, 1:40:14]: Before you get to the railroad station, you're doing something there. [1:40:15, 1:40:19]: then just like the guy the uh the owner said you have another [1:40:19, 1:40:21]: subdivision next to Rico's. [1:40:22, 1:40:25]: Well, to me, that's too much rezoning. [1:40:25, 1:40:27]: In our area. [1:40:27, 1:40:31]: It's too much traffic going down the two lane highway. [1:40:31, 1:40:32]: It's already busy on [1:40:33, 1:40:46]: Henry, and I know you're making the four lane highway. So I just say I'ma disapprove of that because it's too much going on. That's why we moved in the area because it was quiet and then it's butting up against our neighborhood. So I disapprove of it. [1:40:48, 1:40:54]: Thank you. Thank you so much, Ms. Please remember to fill out that form and give it to staff. Is there anyone else that is against and would like to speak? [1:40:58, 1:40:59]: Please. [1:41:03, 1:41:20]: Good evening. And thank you for allowing me the opportunity to speak. My name is Yolanda Barber. I live at 197 Town Place. I am also the City Council District Representative of this particular area for this proposed development. [1:41:21, 1:41:34]: I'll first say I'll withhold my decision because I know this proposal is going to be presented to the council, but I want to speak on behalf of the homeowners in my district who live in this area. [1:41:35, 1:41:38]: I'm not opposed to developments. [1:41:38, 1:41:39]: I'm not. [1:41:39, 1:41:43]: The concerns that I have of the homeowners who live in this area. [1:41:43, 1:41:47]: They were recently annexed in twenty twenty three. [1:41:48, 1:41:55]: As you heard one of them say, they moved to this particular area for the quietness, the quaintness. [1:41:56, 1:42:04]: Most of the homeowners that I spoke to that live in this area that were annexed in 2023, they were opposed to the annexation. [1:42:05, 1:42:10]: I've spoken with them. They are not opposed to developments. [1:42:11, 1:42:14]: I have been able to explain to them the vision. [1:42:15, 1:42:16]: Of our city? [1:42:17, 1:42:25]: That particular area is along a major corridor. It is the gateway into our city if you're coming off of I-675. [1:42:25, 1:42:32]: That area is state route forty two, and I know I saw some slides that keep mentioning North Henry Boulevard. [1:42:33, 1:42:33]: But [1:42:34, 1:42:35]: That's state route forty two. [1:42:36, 1:42:37]: It's a state route. [1:42:38, 1:42:41]: It is where you would want your commercial developments. [1:42:42, 1:42:45]: Not to say that mixed use developments are not good there. [1:42:45, 1:42:50]: But currently there are no residential developments in that area. [1:42:51, 1:42:52]: I wanna ask. [1:42:53, 1:42:59]: You all as the planning commission, do you all get the housing inventory? [1:42:59, 1:43:04]: That our planning and zoning department is responsible for compiling. [1:43:07, 1:43:16]: Uh Councilman no, but I did ask for and request that at the last meeting I had. I think it is important as the planning commission that you all help plan. [1:43:17, 1:43:21]: You are the planning commission. You should know nine [1:43:21, 1:43:24]: Residential developments have been approved. [1:43:25, 1:43:28]: In city council district four in the past two years. [1:43:28, 1:43:29]: Nine. [1:43:29, 1:43:35]: That's 998 residential units. [1:43:36, 1:43:38]: All within city council district four. [1:43:39, 1:43:45]: This particular area of our city, of course, is in my district. It is being overly saturated. [1:43:45, 1:43:46]: With [1:43:47, 1:43:48]: Um town homes. [1:43:49, 1:43:55]: If you would look at the housing inventory that our planning and zoning department has. [1:43:56, 1:43:57]: You should be able to [1:43:57, 1:44:04]: Take a look at each district, each area and see what the housing needs are. [1:44:05, 1:44:10]: This homeowner was smart enough to she recognizes there's already [1:44:11, 1:44:16]: Three developments that have been approved along Valley Hill Road. [1:44:18, 1:44:18]: Three. [1:44:19, 1:44:20]: Along Valley Hill Road. [1:44:21, 1:44:23]: Davis Road, the next street over. [1:44:24, 1:44:27]: There's an existing development aren't already under construction. [1:44:28, 1:44:30]: It too is high density. [1:44:30, 1:44:36]: I'm concerned. I'm concerned about this particular area because it seems as though it's being targeted. [1:44:36, 1:44:37]: And [1:44:37, 1:44:43]: I don't have an issue with um the proposals. It's that I would prefer that our city [1:44:44, 1:44:44]: Plan. [1:44:45, 1:44:48]: We need a master plan for that particular area. [1:44:49, 1:44:56]: A master plan that will give us a guide on um what we can do to help revitalize or [1:44:56, 1:44:59]: redevelop that entire area. [1:44:59, 1:45:00]: Um [1:45:02, 1:45:22]: Another issue that I have, the letter that was mailed to the homeowners. I know our code requires that the developer mail letters to homeowners who are within 500 feet from this proposed development. So there was only a select few. [1:45:22, 1:45:26]: Of the homeowners who live in Valley Hill Station who received this letter. [1:45:27, 1:45:30]: The letter was mailed, I guess, April first. [1:45:30, 1:45:35]: On the letter it says the community zoning meeting was scheduled for April second. [1:45:37, 1:45:41]: When I looked at the city's website, it showed the community zoning meeting. [1:45:41, 1:45:48]: That the city was hosting was scheduled for April seventh, I believe. I showed up here. [1:45:49, 1:45:54]: I will read the same statement that I made during that community zoning meeting. [1:45:54, 1:45:55]: Hosted by our city. [1:45:58, 1:46:07]: During this council's recent retreat, our city's financial advisor advised us that our tax digest was imbalanced. [1:46:07, 1:46:11]: He stated currently our text digest shows [1:46:11, 1:46:14]: Seventy thirty or sixty forty percent. [1:46:14, 1:46:19]: of our taxes are being shouldered by homeowners. It should be reversed. [1:46:20, 1:46:21]: It should be more. [1:46:22, 1:46:23]: Commercial. [1:46:26, 1:46:28]: He mentioned also [1:46:29, 1:46:31]: That we need more commercial businesses. That means more [1:46:32, 1:46:34]: Commercial, not more townhomes. [1:46:34, 1:46:36]: Not more residential. [1:46:39, 1:46:46]: The council has approved nine separate development proposals within City Council District Four. [1:46:47, 1:46:48]: That's my district. [1:46:49, 1:47:04]: I'm concerned because this particular area of my district, the north end of our city, most of those newly annexed residents in twenty twenty three came from that area. That's my district. So not only are you [1:47:05, 1:47:08]: Налий з пропозом [1:47:08, 1:47:11]: Disrupting the peace of the people. [1:47:11, 1:47:22]: They're calling me with concerns. It's not that I don't support growth, it's not that they don't support growth. We need smart, responsible growth. [1:47:23, 1:47:31]: Currently, there are no plans other than the widening of State Route 42. There are no plans for infrastructure improvements. [1:47:33, 1:47:40]: So I hope that you all will consider that in your decision. This is a request. [1:47:40, 1:47:44]: A request by the applicant to amend our comprehensive plan. [1:47:45, 1:47:46]: E request. [1:47:49, 1:47:50]: Um [1:47:52, 1:47:57]: That particular area of state route forty two not only is this parcel um [1:47:57, 1:48:01]: available for development. There are multiple [1:48:01, 1:48:04]: parcels along that stretch of road. [1:48:04, 1:48:10]: Which means it's gonna be piecemealed over the next year or two as those property owners may come forward. [1:48:11, 1:48:15]: I want to master plan that entire area. [1:48:16, 1:48:25]: Master planning first so that we can apply the appropriate zonings that will best fit what we need here in our community. [1:48:25, 1:48:26]: Um [1:48:27, 1:48:31]: I see that this proposal it does not mention anything about a clubhouse or a pool. [1:48:33, 1:48:34]: Something to consider. [1:48:36, 1:48:36]: Mm. [1:48:36, 1:48:39]: This is a gateway to our community, to our city rather. [1:48:43, 1:48:47]: Uh Chairman, may I speak to Council Warman? [1:48:49, 1:49:09]: I have a concern about some of the questions that you've been asking. In reality, it doesn't matter what this board says or do at the end of the day. The city council ha has the responsibility of either turning down our decision or passing the decision. [1:49:09, 1:49:24]: that we make. So at the end of the day, when you speak to me about all this planning or this board, really it's up it's your responsibility at the end of the day. And we basically follow your lead. We have no [1:49:25, 1:49:35]: Solid responsibility when it comes to decision making because at the end of the day your counsel can change everything we say and do on this committee. [1:49:37, 1:49:40]: Am I able to respond? Yes. [1:49:41, 1:49:44]: Thank you for that sentiment. You're absolutely right. [1:49:45, 1:49:46]: Which is why I'm here. [1:49:47, 1:49:47]: Um [1:49:48, 1:49:49]: A share in your concerns. [1:49:50, 1:49:50]: Um [1:49:52, 1:49:56]: You were sworn in just like I was to protect. [1:49:57, 1:50:16]: our community to be fair, honest, transparent, do your due diligence, such as asking for the housing inventory, asking for the council's plan of infrastructure improvements. All those things are basic planning. [1:50:17, 1:50:17]: Task. [1:50:19, 1:50:21]: Mr. Anderson will be [1:50:21, 1:50:23]: More than willing to provide you all with [1:50:24, 1:50:25]: More details. [1:50:25, 1:50:31]: I know that the decision that you all make here are just recommendations for the council. [1:50:31, 1:50:35]: But I want to make sure that you are doing your full due diligence. [1:50:35, 1:50:37]: Before you make decisions. [1:50:37, 1:50:40]: I don't take any of these decisions lightly. [1:50:40, 1:50:47]: As a member of the governing body, I know my decisions are impacting the lives of people who live here. [1:50:48, 1:50:50]: Everybody doesn't want the growth. [1:50:50, 1:50:51]: I get it. [1:50:52, 1:50:54]: But we have to find a happy median. [1:50:55, 1:50:58]: We have to be responsible with the decisions that we're making. [1:50:59, 1:51:01]: I don't just go along to get along. [1:51:01, 1:51:02]: I just want to do [1:51:03, 1:51:09]: What's right, I'm gonna do the best that I can to represent the people in their interest. [1:51:09, 1:51:10]: Thank you so much, Councilwoman. [1:51:11, 1:51:11]: Thank you. [1:51:12, 1:51:15]: May I add one more comment to her conversation? [1:51:15, 1:51:34]: Give me one give me one more uh give me one moment. Thank you, Councilwoman. You're good. Thank you. Is there anyone else that would like to speak on behalf or against uh the current rezoning and comprehensive plan amendment case? All right. I will now close the public hearing and I'll allow you, Mr. Thibodeau, to speak. [1:51:36, 1:51:56]: I would love for this committee to have a a lot of input when it comes to the planning of the communities and and commercial property. But at the end of the day, I I can still ask the question: why do we have employees in the planning zoning if we don't have [1:51:56, 1:52:02]: Mm-hmm. [1:52:02, 1:52:17]: and also with the city council. So we've never had meetings uh total with the uh planning zoning or the city council to set forth the future development of this city. [1:52:19, 1:52:25]: While I wh why I agree with you, um, unfortunately if three or more of us is in a room and we meet quorum [1:52:26, 1:52:33]: And that's to technically an official meeting. So I mean if we can find some avenues to get around that, I I can stand with you on that. Um but at this time [1:52:37, 1:52:56]: Mr. Chairman. Yes, sir. I have a follow-up question for staff. Sure. If I could. In regards to the notices that would have gone to the residents, particularly those within 500 feet, how many letters were sent and how many people may have been, or how many people were at the actual forum, the community forum? [1:52:56, 1:52:58]: Do we send the letters or do the applicant? [1:53:03, 1:53:23]: The reason I ask is sometime back we we spoke as a com as a commission here about uh whether or not we would be advised when letters were sent as part of the uh the presentations, when those were sent, how many were sent, et cetera. I don't I don't see anything here. Um Councilwoman Barber mentioned that letters were sent. [1:53:23, 1:53:34]: The C Z I IM is just a it's just a custom it's just a customary meeting we have. Just it's courtesy. It's not mandated or anything. Okay. [1:53:34, 1:53:54]: We requested it, that's why I mentioned Yes. Do we know how many letters were sent? It's just another form of grassroots planning we were trying to implement. So we just have that as another layer for staff for for residents to have a say in participation. So only only two meetings that are mandated is planning commission and city council meeting. [1:53:54, 1:53:56]: It's just a courtesy meeting, the C Z IO. [1:53:56, 1:54:12]: I I think uh Ryan he's referring to uh the letter that goes out to those surrounding areas from the applicant. The residents five hundred feet. Yeah, all those that were that were then five hundred feet of the property line were sent the letter. I'm not exactly sure how many, but there wasn't very many. [1:54:14, 1:54:15]: Is that so? [1:54:17, 1:54:32]: Uh yeah, I I'll take that. Thank you. All right. Um at this time we're gonna we're gonna do a vote uh separately on these two matters. Do I hear a motion or do I have a motion regarding comprehensive plan amendment case C P dash twenty twenty five dash O two? [1:54:33, 1:54:36]: I have a motion. Ms. Walker. To deny. [1:54:37, 1:54:45]: All right, there's a motion to deny by Vice Chair Walker. Okay. Oh sorry, approval first. [1:54:46, 1:54:50]: You don't have to do an approval. If there's a motion to deny, then there's a motion to deny. [1:54:51, 1:55:00]: Is there a second to the motion to deny? A second. There's a sec or a motion by Miss Walker and a second by Mr. Dumas. All those in favor, please uh indicate by the sign of aye. [1:55:01, 1:55:02]: Uh. [1:55:03, 1:55:05]: All right. All those opposed? Nay. [1:55:06, 1:55:06]: Thanks. [1:55:06, 1:55:12]: All right, there's are three ayes and two nays. The comprehensive plan amendment case is denied. [1:55:16, 1:55:18]: That's why you have to ask for approval first. [1:55:20, 1:55:23]: Chair Chairman, would you mind my repeating the motions and a vote, please? [1:55:24, 1:55:35]: Yep, the motion wa there was a motion to deny the comprehensive plan amendment case, C P dash twenty twenty five dash O two by Miss Walker. It was seconded by Mr. Dumas. Uh the vote was three to two. [1:55:40, 1:55:45]: Do I have a motion regarding rezoning case R Z dash twenty twenty five dash O three? [1:55:48, 1:55:53]: Actually, Ryan, since we didn't approve the the comprehensive plant, is it an automatic [1:55:54, 1:55:54]: Oh. [1:55:55, 1:55:58]: We still need to vote for the record. [1:56:02, 1:56:15]: Thank you, Madam Attorney. Um so I will accept a motion regarding the rezoning case. Mr. Chairman, this is Dave Planchan. I'd like to make a motion to accept the rezoning of the property to conform with the land use plan. [1:56:16, 1:56:33]: There's a motion to accept the rezoning case. Is there a second? Uh Harold, I'll second it. All right. There's a motion and a second by Mr. Chibidot. All those in favor of approving the rezoning case, please indicate by the sound of aye. Aye. Aye. All those opposed? [1:56:33, 1:56:40]: I oppose. Opposed. All right. That motion uh was denied two to three. I need to do a second motion. [1:56:41, 1:56:42]: All right. [1:56:44, 1:56:48]: The next item on tonight's agenda is project updates. Do we have any updates from staff? [1:56:56, 1:57:03]: I'll also combine that with staff comments. Are there any project updates and staff? I'm sorry, you do need to do a motion to den to deny. [1:57:03, 1:57:05]: So we do need okay. [1:57:09, 1:57:16]: Thank you for uh confirming that. Do I hear a motion to deny the rezoning case R Z dash twenty twenty five dash oh three? I'll make a motion to deny. [1:57:17, 1:57:23]: All right, there's a motion by Ms. Walker. Is there a second? A second. A second is by Mr. Doomis. All those in favor, please indicate by the sound of aye. [1:57:24, 1:57:25]: All right. [1:57:25, 1:57:30]: All right, all those opposed? Nay. All right. The motion passes three to two. [1:57:31, 1:57:40]: The next item on tonight's agenda is project updates and staff comments. Do we have any comments or updates from staff? No comments tonight, Chairman. All right. Are there any board comments? [1:57:42, 1:57:53]: Hearing none, I will say um have a great holiday weekend. I know some of us are off on Friday. Uh so happy Easter, happy resurrection Sud Day. Um at this time I'll take a motion for adjournment. [1:57:54, 1:58:05]: Mr. Chairman, I make the motion to adjourn. Is there a second? All right, there's a motion to second to adjourn. All those in favor indicate by the sound of aye. Aye. Aye. Meeting is adjourned at 824 P.M. [1:58:30, 1:58:35]: I think I just don't act in good thing.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2025-04-14 source: 2025-04-14_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:01:49, 0:02:07]: Facebook, right? And uh this is uh it's considered a our ceremonial portion of our meeting tonight. So welcome uh to the city hall and uh let's uh let's get started with uh [0:02:08, 0:02:15]: with these actual proclamations and recognition of some wonderful citizens. [0:02:15, 0:02:27]: Excuse me? Perhaps one of our police officers, Chia Bees. Well well uh well w okay, that's a good idea, but hold on, we'll wait a little bit. How about administrative professionals week? [0:02:27, 0:02:30]: All right, there we go, here we go, here we go. [0:02:33, 0:02:35]: All right, so that let's just just do it that way, right? [0:02:35, 0:02:37]: Let's do it. So [0:02:37, 0:02:40]: Yeah, so Am Administrative Professionals Week. Ladies, come on up. [0:02:41, 0:02:42]: Let's do it that way. [0:02:47, 0:02:49]: Yeah, I have I just have one in my hand right now. [0:02:50, 0:03:10]: Right. Yeah, come on over here, ladies. I should have just started with this in the first place, right? That's right. Yeah, she trusts us up. Is that what it is? Yeah, come on down here, ladies. It's good. [0:03:10, 0:03:19]: Oh you wanna get a mess up. [0:03:19, 0:03:20]: All right. [0:03:20, 0:03:40]: Well, I I feel blessed. I'm I'm I'm I'm a king among all these queens here. You are blessed. And highly favored. You are the man. All right. All right, ladies, listen up here, okay? It's a pro city proclamation uh uh in recognition of administrative professionals week. Whereas administrative professionals, including administrative assistants, [0:03:40, 0:03:55]: Executive assistants and office managers, among others, are critical to the workplace workforce. And whereas administrative professionals play a central role in contributing to the office operations of businesses, government, educational institutions, and other organizations. [0:03:55, 0:04:07]: Whereas administrative professionals serve in a vital information hubs in the modern office, managing information, organizing the office, mastering office technology, providing a strategic support to teams and companies. [0:04:08, 0:04:25]: Whereas the work of the Minister of Professionals today requires advanced knowledge and expertise in communications, computer software, office technology, project management, organization, customer service, other vital office management responsibilities. Now therefore I Anthony Sforr by virtual vesting in me as a mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:04:26, 0:04:46]: On behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Yolanda, Barber, Cowberry, Lukeesia Gantt and Fonzo Thompson who hereby recognize April 20th to 26th at Administrative Professionals Week, highlighting the major contributions to administrative professionals add to the business and governments. And witness thereof, I have here I'm to set my hand in the Great Seal City of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:04:46, 0:05:06]: On the 14th day of April, year of our Lord 2025, and I signed a proclamation along with Vanessa Holliday. Now, we have several here, so to my my assistant. And my former assistant. [0:05:05, 0:05:25]: And assistant unit assist. Hey, baby raised. All right. And the event staff, right? Oh my god. Oh my gosh, she said. Clourest office. And the city manager assistant. And we're gonna go [0:05:25, 0:05:37]: Economic uh economic development. Just remember that. Is that everybody's so far? Okay. [0:05:40, 0:06:00]: All right, ladies. Now what happens if you didn't know, whenever we whenever we give out City proclamation, any proclamation, always give the floor to the individuals that receive the proclamation. So any of you ladies, if you like, and I mean all these queens here, so you can decide whoever wants it [0:06:00, 0:06:11]: Everybody can speak if you want. Here's a mic. Anybody have anything they want to say? Anyone? Are we real? The floor is yours. I'll step out the way. Me? Oh, yeah, go on. Well, first of all, we wanna thank our Lord and Savior. [0:06:12, 0:06:32]: And for this, we are so happy. This is a wonderful group of women. And me being one of the newbies, I thank everyone over here behind me for giving me all the help and the support. I do love what I do, but I can't do it without wonderful other administrative assistants who have kept me and [0:06:32, 0:06:52]: Always, you know, keeping me on track and everything. And we are the backbones. We love each and every one of y'all here at the city of Stockbridge. And just remember us when you do your things, because we work very hard. We work very hard. We really do. Okay. To make sure that everything runs smoothly. So, ladies, anybody else? I thank you guys. I thank [0:06:52, 0:07:12]: That's our sisterhood. Oh yes, okay. And we do thank you, Mayor, for being supportive. No problem, this is this law blessed. [0:07:12, 0:07:23]: Okay, I'll definitely bless, that's for sure. All right, so if there's no no take the phone. Yeah, we'll take you for no other comments we'll take you for. Just a little bit and we'll have to get kinda lined up and we put the back of each other. [0:07:23, 0:07:43]: Come on, come on. That's the parts. Then I can see [0:07:43, 0:07:45]: Okay. I think you should sell these. [0:07:51, 0:07:55]: All right. [0:07:58, 0:08:03]: [484.8, 485.2]: Yeah. [0:08:06, 0:08:09]: Okay, the next proclamation deals with the [0:08:10, 0:08:14]: Records records and informational management month. [0:08:15, 0:08:17]: Okay. This is you as well, right? [0:08:18, 0:08:22]: Well t not two. Just these ladies here. All right. [0:08:24, 0:08:26]: So she's coming? Okay. [0:08:26, 0:08:40]: Is right here be good. Okay. Records and information management month. Whereas the management of public records, information, and data is critical to every government agency for effective and efficient operations in the support of an open and transparent government. [0:08:40, 0:09:00]: Whereas whether it's emails, digital files, paper documents, or photographs, records, and informational management is critical to ensuring effective and efficient record retrieval, maintaining legal compliance and saving money on storage expenses. And whereas control of the records and information is also necessary for the reduction of risk and liability, as well as for compliance with global [0:09:00, 0:09:13]: standards and practices. Whereas the city of Stockbridge recognizes the important role of services provided by records and informational professionals in order to protect, safeguard, and make public records accessible. Now therefore our Anthony's Ford by virtue of vested [0:09:13, 0:09:19]: Authority invested in me as a mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander Yelano Barber, Kyle Berry. [0:09:19, 0:09:22]: The keys again of Fonzo Thompson hereby recognized April. [0:09:23, 0:09:25]: the records and informational management month [0:09:25, 0:09:29]: And we thank the professionals working throughout the city for our critical services they provide. [0:09:29, 0:09:43]: A witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand a great seal city of Stockbridge, Georgia, the fourteenth day of year of our Lord, fourteenth day of April, year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty-five, and signed a proclamation along with our Clerk Vanessa holiday. So congratulations. [0:09:44, 0:09:52]: And you and you all right. Now ladies say so here we go. I'm sorry, she's got something else for you. [0:09:52, 0:10:12]: Thank you, ma'am. Oh, it's a different one for you. And I think George is different too. Oh great. Nice. I spoke, but the m the floor is yours. So anybody? Go ahead and ask. Anybody? Sherry, Sherry, Sherry, Sherry, Sherry, Sherry. [0:10:12, 0:10:28]: Thank you so much. On behalf of the Stockbridge Police Department, we want to thank Mayor and Council and everyone who has made it possible for us being a police department here in the city of Stockbridge to serve our community. Again, thank you so much. Thank God. [0:10:30, 0:10:39]: Very so come on down as well, take a picture with him. If it's happening, just show my pay off the key from speaking. Yes, mate. [0:10:46, 0:10:48]: Thank you. [0:10:51, 0:10:53]: Doctor Jacqueline Humphreys. [0:11:05, 0:11:25]: How you doing? Oh good now. Um ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to uh swerve her in. We're gonna raise our right hands and it'll be small as little snippets I need for you repeat after me. But if you want anybody else to join you up here, more than welcome to do so. Okay. If you want, if if anybody, if that's your support, if if you want to come, come on. [0:11:26, 0:11:32]: And if and someone else can take pictures if you want, sir, if that's if that's if that's necessary. Okay. Okay. [0:11:33, 0:11:36]: Can it's gonna raise your right hand now. I state your name. [0:11:36, 0:11:56]: I Jacqueline Humphreys. Board member. Board member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the citywide development authority. Of the citywide development authority. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will to the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. Support and defend the charter thereof. [0:11:56, 0:12:13]: As well as the constitution and the laws and the laws of the state of Georgia and the United States of America. And the United States of America. I further affirm that. I further affirm that. Upon assumption of this office. I do not hold any unaccountable public money. Yeah. [0:12:13, 0:12:23]: Any unaccountable for any unaccountable money? Pun public money. Public money. Doable and payable to the state. Doable and payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any put [0:12:23, 0:12:43]: Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Of the authority of nor do I hope or nor do I hold any other office of trust? Of trust. Of the government. Of the government. Of the United States. Of this state. Of this state. Or any foreign state. Or any foreign state. As prescribed. As prescribed by the law. [0:12:43, 0:13:03]: the state of Georgia by the state of Georgia I solemnly affirm I solemnly affirm that I've a full uh excuse me that I'm fully qualified that I'm fully qualified under the constitution under the constitution and the laws of the state and the laws of the state to hold the office of to hold the office of city citywide development authority board member citywide development authority board member and that I and that I will perform the duties [0:13:03, 0:13:23]: Duties of my office of the office in the best interests and the best interest of the city of Stockbridge to the best of my ability to the best of my ability without fear. Without fear, favor expectation thereof. Oh expectation thereof. And it's the 14th day of April 2025. Congratulations. All right. Okay. [0:13:23, 0:13:26]: Okay. [0:13:30, 0:13:33]: Okay, so what we're gonna we're gonna sign. [0:13:44, 0:13:50]: Okay. There and there. And then of course and of course when you're done you have the floor. All right. [0:14:05, 0:14:25]: Miss Hollywood sign as well and then uh she'll be able to be able to give you a copy and have a copy profile. Okay. Okay. So uh congratulations to you. Now the floor is yours if you have any comments. No need to go away, somebody go away. Well I wanna I just want to take this honor to say thank you for honoring me on this privilege and I want to do my best to help [0:14:25, 0:14:27]: the community and keep the community going strong. [0:14:27, 0:14:30]: I'm good for that. Thank you. [0:14:30, 0:14:39]: [882.8, 898.2]: Welcome. Congratulations to you. Okay. So the that you have there we go. Your bag is in there and actually the meeting is downstairs for six o'clock. It's the next four hours. [0:14:59, 0:15:02]: Okay, so I have uh two other proclamations. [0:15:03, 0:15:07]: And uh National Child Abuse Prevention Month is a proclamation. [0:15:09, 0:15:09]: Alrighty. [0:15:10, 0:15:20]: So you made a suggestion that you think that one of our police officers are appropriate. Alright, so uh if we get if you can get one of our police officers in here, that'll be fine. [0:15:32, 0:15:34]: We don't want to show you. [0:15:35, 0:15:35]: [936.8, 939.8]: Mr. Christmas, come on in, sir. [0:15:47, 0:16:04]: So I'm gonna read a proclamation dealing with uh National Child Abuse Prevention Month. And it was brought to my attention by our PIO that since if no one else was here to accept this, then our police officer will accept this. Okay. This aspect. And ladies and gentlemen, I want you to know this is uh this is Officer Christmas. Christmas is actually his last. [0:16:04, 0:16:07]: Really? Okay. So on that note. [0:16:07, 0:16:20]: Whereas as April is National Child Abuse Prevention Month, a time when a child wellness and child welfare organization across the US elo uh elevate the the importance of creating systems and programs that put children and families first. [0:16:20, 0:16:24]: Whereas during National Child Abuse Prevention Month we want to [0:16:24, 0:16:26]: We want every young person in the Starbucks community [0:16:27, 0:16:33]: Totbridge community who has faced at the fear of pain and pain of abuse will neglect to know they are not alone. [0:16:33, 0:16:39]: There's no greater sin than to the abuse of power, especially when that abuse is directed at the child. [0:16:40, 0:17:00]: During National Child Abuse Prevention Month, we stand together to prevent abuse and neglect, support brave survivors, and build strong communities and families where every child can grow up happy and safe. Whereas every child in America deserves to grow up safe, supported, and surrounded by love, this month we remember that we pray that we play a part in making that real. [0:16:59, 0:17:08]: For more information on how to recognize and report child abuse or neglect and to support loving families and safe communities, visit childwelfare.gov. [0:17:09, 0:17:11]: Whereas a child abuse and neglect are preventable. [0:17:11, 0:17:31]: And all communities benefit when children and families are well supported. Effective child abuse prevention programs succeed because strong partnerships among parent leaders, agencies, schools, religious organizations, law enforcement, and business, and the businesses in our community. Another, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford, by virtual authority invested in me as the mayor of City of Stockbridge, Georgia. On behalf of the City of Council, [0:17:31, 0:17:51]: Council members Elton, Alexander, Yelona, Barber, Kyle, Verry, Lakeisha Gantt and the Foundless Thomas do hereby proclaim April 2025 as the National Child Abuse Prevention Month. We call upon all community agencies, faith groups, elected leaders, medical groups, businesses, and individuals to increase their participation in efforts to support all families and strengthen the communities in which we live. [0:17:51, 0:18:11]: Thereby ensuring safety and preventing child abuse. And witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand in great steel city of Starbury, Georgia, and the fourteenth day of April, year of our Lord 2025, and assigned a proclamation alone on Clerk Finance of Holiday. Sir, congratulations to you right now. Thank you. Thank you. [0:18:11, 0:18:31]: What happens here, besides that, what happens, I give give people the the floor. So I know I know we brought you in. Do you have any comments? The mic is yours. The floor is yours. Well, thank you for giving me this. Um so prior to my joining the Stockbridge Police Department, I worked for the town of Greenberg in New York as a special victims detective. So this kind of hits home. [0:18:31, 0:18:43]: Okay, fantastic. Look at it. Good deal. All right. Good deal. So uh you and I sir, you're gonna take no take a picture, you turn this around then. You and I take a picture together, okay? [0:18:46, 0:18:54]: Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thank you. It's a great addition to our police staff as well. Good deal. All right. Um World Autism Awareness Month. [0:18:55, 0:18:56]: Okay. [0:18:57, 0:19:05]: No one res Okay. What I'll tell you how about this? He joined would anybody want to join me for as I read this proclamation? Come on up. Anybody? [0:19:05, 0:19:07]: Come on, anyone? [0:19:07, 0:19:09]: Any any but anybody at all? [0:19:10, 0:19:11]: Oh come on. [0:19:24, 0:19:25]: Come on, ladies. Come on. [0:19:26, 0:19:28]: A plane on upstairs. [0:19:28, 0:19:29]: Like [0:19:29, 0:19:31]: Demetrius Dacius? Yeah. [0:19:32, 0:19:33]: Juwan, what you doing? [0:19:34, 0:19:41]: That's it. Come on now. He's there. He's he's watching this the uh live stream. Can we read Christine? [0:19:44, 0:19:46]: I appreciate your staff. [0:19:47, 0:20:07]: Okay, proclamation, City Stockbridge Jordan, recognition World Autism Awareness Month. Whereas every April the world comes together to bring awareness to Autism Spectrum Disorder, ASD, a developmental disable uh disability that can cause significant social, communication, and behavioral challenges. Whereas it's also an important time to reflect on not only reflect on not [0:20:07, 0:20:27]: Not only what autism is uh is, but more importantly, to remind ourselves that autism isn't linear and that each person with autism has their own unique strengths and needs in different areas. Whereas about one in 36 children have autism spectrum disorder, the centers for disease control and prevention states. This number is on the rise. [0:20:27, 0:20:47]: Especially as children of color receive more diagnosis after being largely overlooked throughout history. Whereas people with ASD often have problems with social, emotional, and communication skills. They might repeat certain behaviors and may not want change in their daily activities. Many people with ASD also have different ways of learning, paying attention. [0:20:47, 0:21:07]: Or reacting to things. Signs of ASD begin during early childhood and typically last throughout the person's life. Whereas during the month of April, we strive to promote autism awareness, inclusion, and self-determination for all, to ensure that each person with ASD is provided an opportunity to achieve the highest possible quality of life. Therefore, I, Mayor Anthony S. Ford, [0:21:06, 0:21:26]: By virtual authority of Vested Meaning as the mayor city of Stockbridge, Georgia. On behalf of Council Members Elton, Alexander, Ilana, Barber, Kyle, Berry, LakeshaGantt, and Fonso Thomas to hereby proclaim April 2025 as World Autism Awareness Month in Stockbridge, Georgia. We encourage each of you to join us in empowering the autism community from caretakers to parents, teachers, [0:21:26, 0:21:46]: Teachers, therapists, and self-advocates, and brave people sharing their stories. Each and every person contributes to the positive impact of the on the autism community. And witness thereof I have hereunto Semahan, the great seal city of Stockbridge, Georgia, on the 14th day of April, year of the Lord 2025, and signed a proclamation alone with our clerk for Nessa Holiday. [0:21:46, 0:22:06]: And where's Vanessa? Okay. All right. All right. All right. There we go. All right, ladies. So once again. I I will say as public information officer, the city of Stockbridge stands united for many causes. Every Friday of this month, we have proudly worn blue, not just for autism awareness, but [0:22:06, 0:22:20]: as a team member, staff, but also for child abuse awareness. So I will say that Stock Bridges Mayor Ford knows is where community connects, but we are one community and we stand proud to accept and include all individuals on the spectrum. [0:22:20, 0:22:40]: Thank you, thank you very much for that. Anybody else have anything else? I will tell you though, so you you all know that obviously we will continue on a multi basis to recognize our diverse community, recognize uh individuals like yourself, and obviously uh we do this we've been doing this for years and we'll continue to do this because the clerk's office continues to provide that and we'll continue to do this in the same [0:22:40, 0:22:52]: As uh no matter what the federal government may say, we are going to recognize folks in our community, our diversity and our differences. All right. [0:22:54, 0:23:09]: Wait, once you get in the front of earlier it'll kinda some of you maze it a little s shorter per se. Could come up for shorter. [0:23:12, 0:23:18]: Okay, thank you ladies. [0:23:18, 0:23:30]: All right, so that's all the ceremonial portion of the of our meeting. Uh we'll get our council meeting started roughly about six o'clock. And obviously everybody's welcome to stay as long as you like. [0:40:17, 0:40:24]: Ladies and gentlemen, we'll get the meeting started as soon as we have a quorum. We don't have a quorum just yet, but when we get a quorum, we'll start the meeting. Thank you. [0:54:01, 0:54:07]: Ladies and gentlemen, as soon as we get a quorum, we'll start our meeting. We need one more individual from the council to join us before we start. Thank you for your patience. [1:00:36, 1:00:40]: Ms. Rich Richard Harnes. Harnes, please. [1:00:45, 1:00:49]: Yeah, hit the green button there. There you go. Thank you. Tess, test, okay. That's good there. Thank you, sir. [1:00:49, 1:01:09]: Let us pray. Father in heaven, we thank you not only for who you are, but for your son who gave his life, that we might come to you as we celebrate his resurrection on this coming Sunday. We pray you would give wisdom to all the council members, wisdom and guidance and understanding to all who are attending here today, as only you can. [1:01:09, 1:01:16]: Thank you for forgiving our sins. Thank you for saving us. Bless us. We love you. Thank you. In Jesus' name. Amen. [1:01:17, 1:01:32]: Amen. Okay for I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. [1:01:33, 1:01:34]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [1:01:36, 1:01:38]: Good evening, everyone. [1:01:38, 1:01:52]: Evening. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Mayor Ma Mayor Pro Tem Gantt is attending a meeting in our downstairs Levi room. There was a conflict there. Just wanted to let you know that. Um Councilmember Thomas. [1:01:54, 1:02:05]: Let the record reflect Council Member Thomas is not in attendance. Councilmember Barber. Present. Councilmember Berry. Present. Council Member Alexander. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. [1:02:05, 1:02:10]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Um Council, you need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [1:02:10, 1:02:18]: Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. I'd like to make a request to amend the agenda for a discussion and ultimately a vote. [1:02:19, 1:02:25]: By by the council to approve a six month moratorium on residential development proposals. [1:02:25, 1:02:27]: In City Council District Four. [1:02:28, 1:02:30]: Specifically the north in. [1:02:30, 1:02:32]: The north east end of our city limits. [1:02:33, 1:02:34]: That would include Valley Hill Road. [1:02:35, 1:02:36]: Davis Road. [1:02:36, 1:02:39]: In the connecting state route forty two. [1:02:39, 1:02:40]: Within the city limits. [1:02:41, 1:02:42]: As I wish to endeavor [1:02:42, 1:02:49]: conducting a master plan or area study along these specific roads. There is a [1:02:49, 1:02:51]: Line item. [1:02:51, 1:02:53]: Already in the budget. [1:02:53, 1:02:55]: Under planning and zoning department. [1:02:55, 1:02:57]: For professional services. [1:02:57, 1:03:00]: I wish to use that to hire a firm. [1:03:00, 1:03:09]: To perform the study or master plan of these specific roads. So I just wanted to amend the agenda to have the discussion. Is there a second to the motion? [1:03:11, 1:03:12]: Is there a second to the motion? [1:03:15, 1:03:17]: No second to the motion. Motion fails. [1:03:17, 1:03:28]: Okay. Yes, y uh you have something, Mr. I have two motions, I think. Um the first motion is to amend the agenda to add um [1:03:29, 1:03:33]: a quick discussion in order to task Falcon design. [1:03:34, 1:03:36]: on a median [1:03:36, 1:03:40]: or beautification on 138 for the median there. [1:03:41, 1:03:48]: And the other one is one at a time, please. So you you make a motion for Falcon Design to [1:03:48, 1:04:00]: uh do something with our medium on one thirty eight in reference. Right. Well what's a research to um provide us with information on what we can do so that we can look into funding for next year, not for this year. [1:04:01, 1:04:21]: But for the project to begin next year. So um it's a beautification project, but they have to get G Dot involved. So I would like for public works to kind of have some kind of directive. It it was best to have public works give us some type of directive on which way we can go with that. Is there a second to that motion? I'll second it. Councilwoman get even though [1:04:20, 1:04:32]: Oh you didn't second mine? Okay. I'll second you. The motion has been second. All favor please indicate. Okay, we'll add that we'll add that at no that'd be number 12. We'll add that at the end of number 12. That'd be number 12, okay. [1:04:32, 1:04:35]: And the second one is um [1:04:36, 1:04:39]: I don't know the n I forgot the name. Um [1:04:39, 1:04:44]: The citizens committee that is a part of the Stopridge Police Department. Yes. [1:04:44, 1:04:46]: um would like to [1:04:46, 1:04:52]: there's a project where they would like to put tables, uh some type of uh [1:04:52, 1:05:12]: It's kind of like a cement table uh at the parks that we have, the city parks, and on top of those tables are checkered boards and chess so that people can play. And they want permission to do that in order to do that. It's part of our parks. Um, you know, we have park plan. I contacted Public Works and asked them what [1:05:12, 1:05:19]: What would be the proper procedure to do that? Did we need to go or we could just say yes? And he said that we should bring it here to the meeting. [1:05:20, 1:05:35]: Okay, is there a second in that motion? Okay, is there a second Ms. How's that? Okay, so unanimous we'll make that number 13. Okay. All right. Now on that on that note, I need a motion to accept the rest of the agenda, please. So move. Is there a second? [1:05:35, 1:05:40]: I say. Um okay from uh Alexander Miss Gann, all in favor please indicate. Thank you very much. All right. [1:05:40, 1:06:00]: Now, Moon, what we had, ladies and gentlemen, before we had our formal meeting here, we had our ceremonial review. So several different proclamations were given out. The Records Information Management Month was a proclamation for that as well, recognizing those individuals that do this for our government. The Administrative Professionals Week and the Proclamation. [1:06:00, 1:06:20]: Proclamation for that as well. And I want you to know that all those individuals that received those proclamations for those two items were all ladies. So I felt like a king among queens earlier today. So that's that was good stuff for me, I guess, in a sense. I was happy about that, right? Autism Awareness Month proclamation was also issued, and we recognized child abuse. [1:06:20, 1:06:40]: Abuse Prevention and Awareness Month. And we also conducted a swearing-in of Jacqueline Humphreys, which is now a new member of the Stockbridge Citywide Development Authority. And Georgia Cities Week, which is uh starts on the 21st to the 26th of April, where we have some several different activities during the course of that week to excuse me, to um uh show off the [1:06:40, 1:07:00]: And then show off what we're doing in our particular city as well, working with the Jordan Municipal Association initiative that they have. And uh so I just want to let you know what uh what we did for a ceremonial review and we'll continue to have these type of reviews and recognize the diversity, equity, inclusion within our city each and every month with different proclamations as well. On that [1:07:00, 1:07:03]: note. Um Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments at all? [1:07:06, 1:07:14]: Okay, Mr. Turner, come forward please and um uh turn the mic on, should be on on the green and uh name and address, please. [1:07:17, 1:07:20]: Yeah, is it on for? Is hit the green button. There we go. [1:07:21, 1:07:25]: Paul Turner, address two five four, Warblerway, Stockbridge, Georgia. [1:07:29, 1:07:49]: I'm here today because I have a few questions for all of you. I'm a taxpaying citizen of the city and I will be looking into how my taxes are being allocated. I've requested and paid for several items with open records, such as the city audit from 2018 to 2023, amphitheater ticket sales from 2023. [1:07:49, 1:07:50]: [4070.8, 4074.1]: via star contract for twent uh two thousand twenty five [1:07:54, 1:07:56]: All city owned properties. [1:07:56, 1:08:07]: All city owned properties sold from twenty seventeen to current, all city owned properties transferred to other entities, all properties previously transferred to other entities and sold. [1:08:08, 1:08:13]: So let's start with the Viastar contract. Letter of agreement. [1:08:16, 1:08:18]: Who signed this contract? [1:08:19, 1:08:24]: And who read this contract? These are just questions. Okay, okay, fine. Go ahead, sir. Go ahead. And who read this contract? [1:08:26, 1:08:46]: There is absolutely nothing in this contract that benefits Stockbridge Amphitheater or the taxpayers of this stock of this uh of Stockbridge. Please remember that this amphitheater was funded by tax dollars. All payments made to any vendor, artist, performer, security, valet, hospitality, rental. [1:08:46, 1:09:06]: Rental equipment, artist lodging, artist transportation, and any other expenses at Stockbridge Amphitheater is paid by tax dollars. In this contract, the VISTAR will receive one table, VIP area per show with placement as close to cover stage as possible, four all access passes per show, and the case. [1:09:06, 1:09:26]: 20 tickets in the reserve section within the first five rows per show, opportunity to host quarterly private events at a VIP roof deck for up to 30 guests, valet parking up to 10 vehicles maximum for select contestant winners, and Viastar executive leaderships per event commercial banking reports. [1:09:26, 1:09:27]: Right. [1:09:28, 1:09:31]: Бо да із нажіст в дис контракт. [1:09:32, 1:09:33]: And this contract [1:09:34, 1:09:54]: Stockbridge amphitheater or the facility will bear cost of the initial signage, production, fabrication, and installation, inclusive of updating all existing venue marks, fabrication of new digital billboard affixed to exterior of facility, Vice Star Lounge Area signage, and wallscape. [1:09:54, 1:09:55]: Yeah. [1:09:55, 1:09:59]: That means you all have actually agreed to pay. [1:10:01, 1:10:04]: For the signage and promotional material. [1:10:06, 1:10:18]: How is this a letter of agreement for naming rights and we're paying for the actual signage and promotional uh material used at the amphitheater? [1:10:21, 1:10:27]: VISTAR is only paying three hundred thousand dollars a year with a three percent escalator. [1:10:27, 1:10:30]: That's the time. Council, you give more time to continue on? [1:10:31, 1:10:33]: Well one more that's the only one. It [1:10:34, 1:10:34]: You said no? [1:10:35, 1:10:40]: Any more time? You can have a few more minutes. Two? What do you think about it? [1:10:40, 1:10:48]: Two minutes. I appreciate that since we did have a late start. Thank you. You w you you wanna give two more? All right, two two more minutes. Go ahead, sir. Thank you. [1:10:50, 1:11:10]: Viastar is only paying$300,000 per year with a 3% escalator annual following year one of the agreement. Just last year, an extra$500,000 was allocated to the amphitheater because there was a rain or weather delay that interrupted some scheduled shows. Viastar is controlling the [1:11:10, 1:11:15]: contributing less than the amount that the amphitheater was in the hole from last year. [1:11:16, 1:11:36]: This is an outside venue, so why would there not be a clause in the contract between the artist and venue stating that weather or any act of God does not equate to another full payment to the performer? I don't see anywhere in this contract where Viastar will be helping with daily overhead costs of these events. With that being said, [1:11:36, 1:11:56]: Being said, my next request regarding the amphitheater is a full vendor's list for the Stockbridge Amphitheater as well as a vending fee to an exact dollar amount from 2021 to 2024. I would also like to request a list of payments to vendors and artists who perform, work, or any person who gets paid from working, promoting the Stockbridge Amphitheater. [1:11:55, 1:12:01]: Amphitheater. And again, this is a government entity built by taxpayer dollars. [1:12:03, 1:12:23]: No information should be redacted or withheld under the federal law, Freedom of Information Act, even if the payment to artists even payments to artists. Why? Because they are being paid by tax dollars. And I reclaim my time. Thank you. Thank you. Uh on that note, if you put in open weapons weapons re weapons [1:12:23, 1:12:33]: open records request, I would imagine that the that's been submitted to the clerk and the clerk's supply that if not, the clerk would do so. That's part of the job in that aspect. [1:12:33, 1:12:37]: Yes, sir. Um at first the contract was sent to me heavily redacted. [1:12:38, 1:12:52]: So that's why I'm making this statement as far as uh future. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Um no further comments. All right. Um [1:12:55, 1:13:07]: Moderton, I will say this to you and to everybody else. The contract was signed by our representative, period. The contract was presented to the council for their approval. [1:13:07, 1:13:09]: Yeah to stand by. [1:13:09, 1:13:13]: It was presented to the council for approval. It just so happened. [1:13:13, 1:13:15]: Will you stop interrupting? Let me finish. [1:13:16, 1:13:17]: Tell the truth. [1:13:18, 1:13:20]: The country water. [1:13:21, 1:13:26]: Okay. No hold on. Let me let me explain. Let me explain, will you please? [1:13:26, 1:13:28]: The contract was approved. [1:13:29, 1:13:30]: by the council. [1:13:31, 1:13:34]: What just what happens it was a simple majority. [1:13:34, 1:13:40]: when it was approached at a public meeting just like now just like this meeting when we had a quorum. We had a quorum. [1:13:41, 1:13:43]: And just so happens at that particular meeting. [1:13:43, 1:13:48]: For whatever reason, Miss Barber and Miss Gantt were not present for the meeting. [1:13:48, 1:14:08]: Now, mind you, it was presented to the set the body at that time and it was approved. And on top of that, there are contract our contractor that runs the amphitheater, sent information to everybody on this body, this Leslie body, in reference to what the what was going on with the contract, what was going on with the logo. [1:14:08, 1:14:20]: the the the information in reference to the the the actual public notice about five star being our our our naming rights and our main contractor. That was all set to everybody back in January. [1:14:20, 1:14:40]: And January. All right. So there are things that are in the contract that were approved by a simple majority of the council, which is a legal, it's a legal document. Legal document. Now, what it amounts to is well, there's also a paragraph in there or a little line in there that talks about termination within a 30-day period. All right. We're not going down that road. [1:14:40, 1:14:42]: wrote it's in the in the contracts a legal document. [1:14:43, 1:14:46]: But it was passed and it was given to everybody electronically. [1:14:47, 1:14:54]: in January, guaranteed. You can do open record requests of that and you can find that that everybody got tagged with that information. [1:14:54, 1:15:14]: Period. So it's it's i it's a d it's a legal document. So um and understand the concern of the pup uh the public, you you have that, but if the body itself approved this action and approved additional funding even last year. It was done on a legislative body uh by s by a majority. It may not be a unanimous decision, it may have been three or four votes, but it was passed. [1:15:14, 1:15:14]: Mm. [1:15:15, 1:15:35]: Appropriately at a legal at a legal meeting. Point of order. I'm gonna stop right there, sir. Point of order. What's your point of order, sir? The this is not on the agenda. Well certainly I understand, but we don't normally recall questions from the podium. I will stop. And it's pretty clear that Miss Barber wrote that statement. Well I don't know. I can't say that, sir. I can't say I'm not gonna say that. [1:15:35, 1:15:55]: What uh hold on. Mayor Ford, Mayor speak. Hold on a second. Hold on. I understand that, but I'll address the address before this gentleman was speaking. No, sir, you've had your time. I'm sorry, you had your time. I want to address you allowed him to speak. [1:15:54, 1:16:05]: And we're asking speech. In reference to the legality and what was done. [1:16:05, 1:16:07]: Okay, in this aspect. Now [1:16:08, 1:16:09]: I will tell you what. [1:16:09, 1:16:12]: I understand your point of order, Ms. Alexander. I understand that. [1:16:13, 1:16:33]: Ms. Barber, you get a couple minutes and then we go. We gotta move on. We have to have an agenda amended to discuss items. You're going outside of precedence. Okay. It's going outside of precedent. I seek the council's vote in order to override the mayor's decision to elect. [1:16:33, 1:16:47]: Mayor Ford, Mayor Ford, they don't want me to speak because I'm gonna tell the truth. No, Mayor Ford, if you don't mind. The naming rights contract was presented to the council during a retreat. [1:16:47, 1:16:58]: A retreat in which they amended the agenda during that retreat in order to add the item to review and discuss the name and rights contract. [1:16:59, 1:17:05]: It was approved during a retreat, not a public meeting. I wanted to make that correction. [1:17:06, 1:17:15]: Yes, all of us received a copy of the name and rights contract. However, all of us was not aware that he was going to be presenting that [1:17:15, 1:17:35]: proposed contract during a retreat where it is not audio recorded. A retreat where all members of the governing body was not point of order. A retreat that was called specifically to discuss House Bill 581 and code enforcement. Stand by look at the agenda. It's online [1:17:35, 1:17:55]: Line, but okay. I take issue with any council member who would suggest that I wrote a statement for this gentleman to read here. Okay. He's stating facts. He just told you he submitted open records requests. I've mentioned two minutes. Honest about what you all approved, knowing that this name [1:17:55, 1:18:15]: Rights sponsorship, it does not benefit our city per se. Okay. More so, ViStar, than it does our city. You all have this name and rights contract, and you were thinking that the public was not gonna find out about it. I take issue. I take issue when you're making decisions. [1:18:15, 1:18:21]: On behalf of our city, and you won't own it, or you're trying to hide from it. No, stand up. [1:18:22, 1:18:42]: Okay. Speak to it. All right. Explain why you would approve this as a name, right? Sponsorship. All right. Explain it. All right, Miss Barber. Got let's got to it. Miss Camp one more time, we'll go we'll move on after you, Miss Camp. Mayor, I just wanna uh let everyone know that retreat is public meeting. And I wasn't there, but [1:18:42, 1:19:02]: Any meeting that is advertised that mayor and council can vote for and they have a quorum and we've always voted at our retreats, they are public. And they are they are posted. Our clerk posts the meeting and provide the notice that there is a meeting each and every time. [1:19:02, 1:19:22]: And I wasn't there either. I did not vote on the contract, but the meeting was not something that people were trying to hide. It was a public meeting. It was advertised. And I I don't want anyone to um, it's kind of like [1:19:22, 1:19:42]: like when you hear different things, you don't want it to escalate into something that it's not. You you wanna make sure that you you know the facts. Like we can't I understand that Councilwoman Barber is upset with what I I'm saying I [1:19:42, 1:19:49]: I'm I underst I'm s uh well, I understand that she's has this concern to whatever her statement may have been. [1:19:51, 1:20:11]: But at the same time, we can't mislead the public by saying that we didn't have a public meeting. Oh it was not a public meeting, it was a retreat. And we all know that retreats are not audio recording. Miss Barber, you had to be able to do that. We're not going to mislead the parent. [1:20:11, 1:20:29]: Stop talking. Stop mentioning my name and I'm gonna have to correct the record. Stop misleading and deceiving the public. You had your time. You had your time. Do not say my name. Speak for yourself in the bad decisions that you're making. Okay. Well [1:20:30, 1:20:50]: So, as I wanted to say, all retreat meetings are public meetings. Any meetings that have to be advertised, as long as we have a quorum in a meeting, I want you to know that they are public. They are free for anyone to come, regardless of where they're had. Most times people have retreats to [1:20:50, 1:21:10]: be able to get when we do retreats they start at like eight o'clock or nine o'clock in the day and they might end at 5 30, 6 o'clock p.m. non-stop and they're usually for two or three days, um usually three days, and they are planning periods. They're periods of we have two. We have one about the budget and we have a second one [1:21:09, 1:21:11]: Where we plan. [1:21:11, 1:21:30]: or look at what events or activities and capital projects that we want to do first. So we give them kind of like a tap, we have a, so what's our priority type retreat? Um those are the two retreats we have and they are open to the public. They are announced. I just don't want to mislead anyone. I want to make that clear. [1:21:30, 1:21:50]: All right. Thank you for that. Um before you before uh you council, you have the adoption of minutes. It'd be the council meeting on um March third, the retreat meetings on night, March nineteenth, twentieth, and twenty-first, and also the council work session on March twenty fifth. We need a motion to approve those, please. From Mr. Berry is there a second? Sir. Mr. I was a second that all fair please indicate. [1:21:50, 1:21:51]: [4912.0, 4927.0]: And that retreat did not contain uh presentation. Ms. Barber, we're going we're moving on. Completely separate. We're moving on. Presentation. Financial report as December twenty uh December thirty first, twenty twenty four. Mr. Malazi, please. [1:23:10, 1:23:10]: Yeah. [1:23:21, 1:23:22]: Graysor, please. [1:23:24, 1:23:34]: May and Council, this is an overview of the twenty twenty-four fiscal year and audited report that I'm going to provide. [1:23:35, 1:23:36]: The [1:23:38, 1:23:40]: The point date one would be soon after. [1:23:44, 1:23:51]: month we are required to have the audit reports done before June uh 30th. [1:23:58, 1:24:04]: So we have uh I'll start with revenues, then I'll get into expenses. [1:24:04, 1:24:08]: And as you see, uh the first one is general fund. [1:24:09, 1:24:15]: Uh general fund we budgeted for two twenty six logic, can you change the slide? The slide hasn't changed. [1:24:22, 1:24:22]: There you go. [1:24:25, 1:24:41]: Our general fund we budgeted twenty-six point seven million and uh at the end of the fiscal year twenty twenty four, December thirty-first, we got uh thirty point three million. Then we had the property. [1:24:42, 1:24:56]: uh evidence we didn't budget anything but we happened to have uh uh eighty six thousand and this is where you have uh uh this is money in trust [1:24:56, 1:25:04]: And we had the upper funds, we didn't budget anything, but on the expenses side you find out that we spent [1:25:05, 1:25:11]: Uh then we had the grant funds, we budgeted for one million and we got one point five million. [1:25:12, 1:25:16]: Uh we had hotel motel, we budgeted for three hundred and [1:25:16, 1:25:20]: uh seventy five thousand in revenues [1:25:20, 1:25:24]: Likely enough you find out that we got over a million. [1:25:24, 1:25:44]: So we are under estimated our revenues. Then we had the five, we budgeted for six and we got seven. As I'm saying, that is an audited, so additional may be the money that was for the previous fiscal year. So we got seven. But when adjustments are [1:25:44, 1:25:47]: done, it will come to exactly what we budgeted for. [1:25:48, 1:25:53]: Then we have Tis Plus, we budgeted for six point two, we got seven pointy two. [1:25:53, 1:25:55]: As place [1:25:56, 1:26:04]: Three uh three, we had fifty-seven. This one is and so what you see here is just miscellaneous because they are already finished. [1:26:05, 1:26:07]: We have finished correcting that. [1:26:08, 1:26:11]: Then we had splasy four. [1:26:11, 1:26:19]: That's the same. We have finished. We budgeted for two point two twenty-one. We got thirty-two dollars. [1:26:20, 1:26:23]: Then we had the uh URA. [1:26:24, 1:26:38]: URA we are not supposed to have budgeted because we correct revenues one time when we have refunded. As you see that we budgeted for one point two million, we got one and ninety-six. Most of those ones are fees. [1:26:39, 1:26:42]: And the down um downtown development. [1:26:43, 1:26:53]: We budgeted forty five thousand. That was also a mistake. We don't budget uh this will be on the expenditure side because we don't receive uh [1:26:53, 1:27:07]: money from there unless something has taken place, is fees or sharing that we have. The same thing applies to uh citywide forty five thousand. You see that there's zero uh amount that we received. [1:27:08, 1:27:13]: Then we have public s uh facility. That one was also uh [1:27:13, 1:27:24]: Date, we budgeted for two point nine, you see that we didn't get anything. So in the upcoming budget, those with zeros you will not see them. [1:27:25, 1:27:28]: Impact phase, uh this is another [1:27:29, 1:27:48]: Very important that we show that the cities on growth, on tourism, are only various developments that are taking place or business is bringing a lot of money. We budgeted for 2370, but you see that we got five hundred and eighty-eight thousand. [1:27:48, 1:27:53]: So we'll have a change when we're making twenty six C budget. [1:27:53, 1:28:12]: Cemetery we budgeted for ten thousand. That one will not be there because we don't expect revenues from cemetery. There may be some fees, uh, but that will be offset with the some miscellaneous expenses of maintaining cemetery. So that ten thousand will no longer be there in twenty six budget. [1:28:13, 1:28:31]: Uh we have water and sewer, we budgeted for four uh four point five. Uh on revenues we got four point eight. Uh we have stormwater one point five, we got uh one point three. That's the uh we were uh we under [1:28:33, 1:28:40]: Corrected. Then we have sanitation. We budgeted for two point eight. We had one point eight. [1:28:40, 1:28:42]: thousand, hundred and eighty nine thousand. [1:28:44, 1:28:45]: Then we have a mirror mandra. [1:28:46, 1:29:06]: Uh we budgeted this one again, we need to make some changes. We budgeted for seven hundred and thirty-nine thousand. As you see, we collected only one forty-eight and most of those ones will be for sponsorship. So that's most of the money will come or their operation. [1:29:06, 1:29:26]: Is funded by General Fund. So that amount of$7.39 as revenue will dramatically be reduced in 2026. Then the last one we have is AMP Theater. We budgeted for two million to receive as revenue and we corrected two point. [1:29:26, 1:29:31]: point five million with twenty five percent in revenues. [1:29:32, 1:29:36]: I want to ask a question before you move on, Mr Mulazi. Go ahead, please. [1:29:37, 1:29:40]: This um for the public facility authority. [1:29:41, 1:29:46]: I know you explained this before. The two point nine, what is that budgeted for? [1:29:47, 1:29:48]: Which one? [1:29:49, 1:29:51]: The public facility authority. [1:29:52, 1:29:58]: So we borrowed money to make the f to maintain our facilities. [1:29:59, 1:30:11]: And this one is actually it was not even supposed to be here. So we will discuss more in details during the upcoming budget. Okay. But I put here everything so that you can see what was in the budget. [1:30:11, 1:30:13]: are some of them who clean them up. [1:30:14, 1:30:15]: Thank you. [1:30:17, 1:30:19]: who get into expenses [1:30:21, 1:30:34]: And we start with general fund as well. General fund we budgeted as it was in the revenue, we budgeted for twenty six point nine million and we got we spent [1:30:35, 1:30:36]: Twenty eight [1:30:36, 1:30:48]: point seven million. In other words, we spent more than what we budgeted for. Now we start hearing about the unfunded, non funded expenses, meaning that we are spending that we didn't budget. [1:30:49, 1:30:52]: Uh then we have property evidence, uh [1:30:53, 1:31:10]: We didn't budget anything on expense, but we spent five thousand. It's minimal but still is unbudgeted. Then we have uh APA, we budgeted for seven fifty-three and we spent five thirty-eight. We underspent [1:31:11, 1:31:26]: Uh grants we budgeted for one million, we corrected the one point four. Uh if we had the all reimbursement corrected, we would have much, much more than the uh one point four, but we'll still correct our 2024. [1:31:26, 1:31:27]: Ani [1:31:28, 1:31:30]: uh reimbursable that we didn't get. [1:31:32, 1:31:33]: Hotel, motel? [1:31:34, 1:31:37]: We budgeted for three seventy five to spend. [1:31:38, 1:31:39]: And we spent the [1:31:40, 1:31:48]: Five hundred and one thousand, half of what we collected, as you see on the revenue, we collected more than one million. [1:31:49, 1:32:07]: Then we have V Splas. Excuse me. Yes, sir. With all due respect, Mr. Malazzi, I believe we can read it. So do we need to go line by line on eve every every item going down the list or do we just kinda need to move through the process? I can skip. [1:32:09, 1:32:13]: Yes. I I had a question. Go right ahead please. Well a couple of questions. [1:32:13, 1:32:20]: In regards to the grants, you said that we budgeted for a million and it's at one point four nine two. So [1:32:20, 1:32:27]: Why and this is an expenditure. What when you say expenditure, what are we expending on and what didn't what do we not receive? [1:32:27, 1:32:28]: out of the grant. [1:32:29, 1:32:31]: We didn't get the reimbursement. [1:32:32, 1:32:45]: We didn't get the reimbursement as of yet. Yes. Okay. But that's still pending because we're in the month of April, right? Mm-hmm. All right. And in addition to that, you said that the other the two um the C D A [1:32:46, 1:32:49]: And the downtown development authority, those are not [1:32:49, 1:32:52]: revenue generating anyway from the other slide. So [1:32:53, 1:33:01]: you have here the expenditures of what we normally budget for for them, correct? Yes. So here is where they are supposed to be. [1:33:01, 1:33:16]: Uh on the expenses side, they are not supposed to be on the revenue side. On the revenue side would have been fees, but not the uh the amount that we give them every year, which is forty five, each one of them forty five. [1:33:16, 1:33:21]: Okay. So here is where they are supposed to be on the forty five. As you see. [1:33:22, 1:33:24]: Down there you see forty five forty five on the revenue. [1:33:25, 1:33:31]: But on the other side you see that instead of forty five, giving them forty five, we have given them forty eight. [1:33:31, 1:33:39]: Because some expenses they come to us, which I've discussed with the the city clerk. Sometimes we have meals there. [1:33:39, 1:33:54]: We we buy for them but we don't recoup our money. Maybe we don't ask for refunds. Okay. So we paid forty eight instead of forty five, but that's where it's supposed to be. It's not supposed to be on the revenue side. And the hotel motel taxes, what are we spending money on? [1:33:54, 1:34:03]: Because we have to uh we have to pay expenses. Hotel Motel is not supposed to be hundred percent general fund money. [1:34:03, 1:34:23]: It's supposed to go to I think maybe we set it up. So hopefully we are giving it out where it's supposed to be spent. There should be a fraction of what should be remaining in general fund. It has to be given back for tourism. Tour the tourism portion. Exactly. Okay. And there's a certain percentage. Are you saying that's our percentage? [1:34:23, 1:34:28]: percentage that we take over to the tourism to through the Okay. All right. Thank you. [1:34:29, 1:34:30]: Go ahead, please. [1:34:31, 1:34:36]: Okay, so for the Merrill Manders and for the amphitheater. [1:34:38, 1:34:43]: Looking at the ex expense side for the Merrill Manders, I want you to continue [1:34:43, 1:34:45]: Going line by line as you were. [1:34:46, 1:34:47]: He doesn't want you to. [1:34:47, 1:35:07]: Because he doesn't want you to speak about the amphitheater. No, I and the overage of the amphitheater. I can see I can do the last two, those ones. As you as you say that you have the details, but I can go for the last one. Yeah. Okay. The last one, please, sir. Which I think. They seem to always want to cut me off when I talk. Um I asked a question, Mr. [1:35:07, 1:35:12]: Mulazi. Please, sir, if you will review with the public and [1:35:13, 1:35:15]: The Merl Manders and the Amphitheater. [1:35:17, 1:35:18]: As you were. [1:35:21, 1:35:30]: So last from uh s second from last male mandras is we budgeted for th seven hundred and thirty. [1:35:30, 1:35:36]: Two, but we under spent. We spent the five forty eight, which is under the budget. So there's no [1:35:36, 1:35:38]: problem on that one. [1:35:38, 1:35:49]: And the amphitheatre we budgeted for two million and we spent the six point four. Out of that six point four, six point one is literally thirty. [1:35:49, 1:36:09]: had to do with the operations, everything is operations, but what we gave out that was the uh given out to our uh our contractor is six point one because the others is to do with maintenance so it's not the entire six point four six point one [1:36:09, 1:36:19]: was for given for operations by our contractor, then the balance is for some maintenance that were done to the facility. [1:36:20, 1:36:22]: Okay. [1:36:22, 1:36:42]: Thank you. I appreciate that, Mr. Millizer. I just don't want you to have to go over line by line reading items that we see right here in front of us. So basically, what we can do is go and discuss these items and understand that what my want to do is get the public to the long and the short of it, which is the bottom. [1:36:42, 1:37:02]: Bottom line. We can go through and we can read each line. The public can see it. Certainly, anybody that wants this document, it's available. You can open records request it. You can get it. It's actually displayed online here for you to see. But what I want to do is I want to get to the nuts and the bolts of it and to look at it to see how the open [1:37:02, 1:37:17]: overall budget of the city affected. Now the bottom line number is we generated fifty four we s had fifty four million dollars in expenses and we generated uh fifty six million. Is that pretty much is that what I'm seeing? [1:37:20, 1:37:26]: Yeah, so my summary would be the last two paragraphs. [1:37:26, 1:37:46]: Right, but I I just want to make sure that people can see the numbers just like they can see everything else, is that they can see pretty much consistently in the last few years. I think we've talked about at the um retreat, the city has pretty much generated about an extra two million dollars in terms of uh [1:37:46, 1:38:06]: what we've been able to assess. That's been pretty much the standard practice that I've seen uh going forward since I took the council. Certainly there are numbers that are alarming on here that we certainly need to deal with and we need to address, but we need to look at it in its totality and not simply single out this [1:38:06, 1:38:23]: item. I certainly my point is I don't want to beat up on any staff member or anything like that. I certainly wanted to look at it and from your perspective uh in the totality and to look at the summary numbers which tell a story that the city is financially sound. [1:38:23, 1:38:30]: I have stated that one, but as you have said, it has been two million, two million, uh if only [1:38:30, 1:38:49]: We can just which will be working together to overcome that one of uh uh non budgeted spending. But other than that, uh I have uh my last uh uh paragraph, yes, the city is in good financial status to meet all its obligation. That's the most important thing. [1:38:50, 1:38:54]: That you don't have to put aside because you don't have enough revenues. We don't not [1:38:55, 1:38:55]: We are not there. [1:38:56, 1:39:01]: And plan for growth in all aspects in line with the short and long term [1:39:02, 1:39:12]: goes that governing bodies, priorities, financial policies and procedures that you put aside, those ones will be our guid your our guiding uh [1:39:12, 1:39:32]: two and you directed me plus our financial advisor that we have to come into uh giving you how we can boost our fund balance. So we are working towards those ones, but I have to thank you that the financial policies and procedures you are [1:39:32, 1:39:45]: adopted, we have to stick to that once because it's no longer me, it's see we adopted and we have to abide to that. But the city is in good financial standing uh as we are now. [1:39:46, 1:40:06]: Yes, and certainly I'd like to follow up on that. I think we had and many people who may have tuned in may not have been watching the presentation from the tax commissioner and from you on the actual uh floating um tax pavilion vision that's actually gonna be coming up and be [1:40:05, 1:40:25]: Be on the ballot and the residents will get to determine whether or not that passes or not. And in effect, I think the Georgia Municipal Association has indicated that if it were successful and the voters did approve it, we could potentially end the city tax, which my portion is about$500. [1:40:25, 1:40:42]: uh for my tax i if the citizens so chose. So we can't tell you how to vote, but we can only say that we hope that that would be on the ballot because the county opted in, all of the municipalities opted in, and that'll be certainly an option if you could hit on that a little bit. [1:40:43, 1:40:45]: What you could speak on there? [1:40:47, 1:40:48]: Anything you need to answer at all? [1:40:50, 1:40:51]: Mr. Button Frank. [1:40:52, 1:40:53]: Я [1:40:55, 1:41:04]: We are in good shape, but the only thing is we just have to go as we have done in the past and we can uh [1:41:04, 1:41:06]: We will be okay. [1:41:06, 1:41:08]: My main concern is the [1:41:08, 1:41:13]: and budgeted spending. We are overbudging general fund. [1:41:13, 1:41:26]: Because most of these ones we have let me tell you like Amphitheatre. Amphitheatre you may never have uh profits because Amphitheatre's profits are indirect. [1:41:27, 1:41:31]: that uh as people are coming, people are spending [1:41:32, 1:41:48]: If we are fiscally responsible, you can see the fruits of funding Ampheat. You will never see ET making a profit because the aim is not to make a profit. The aim is to make service and fund tourism. It's there are several ways that it can be. [1:41:48, 1:41:58]: But uh we just have to be fiscal responsible. Going forward, we have seen the mistakes that we have made. What have we learned into? We cannot [1:41:59, 1:42:01]: spend that has not been budgeted. [1:42:01, 1:42:07]: And even when we are making transfers from general fund to amphetre to whichever. [1:42:08, 1:42:12]: fund, we need to know what's the source before we start spending. [1:42:12, 1:42:27]: But other than that, the Ts plus, the Splus we have these ones are better tools that you have done, that they are not burdening or they are removing the burden from the general fund to meet some uh developments that you may have. [1:42:27, 1:42:47]: So otherwise what you're getting at the amphitheater actually draws people into tourism to buy uh spend time here, hotels, restaurants, spend money in a area, things of this nature in a sense. It's it is uh attracts folks to to the They may come for the amphitheater, but they will seeing the downtown, they may come again. Right. And that information [1:42:47, 1:43:00]: Information that is going there, it's not bad, but it's just a matter of we have just to be fiscal responsible. We have to be accountable. Thank you. Thank you. Um m I had a question in regards to [1:43:01, 1:43:02]: The revenue [1:43:02, 1:43:05]: versus what the first presentation you did was the revenue amount. [1:43:06, 1:43:26]: Did that average out? Is it after all the expenditures and the revenue or is that two separate things? Not particular general fund or which one? When you did the first the very first slide you had was uh the revenue. General fund. General funds. General fund we budgeted for six uh twenty six million. Right. And we spent uh twenty [1:43:26, 1:43:40]: So you see there, at first the revenue uh expenses were 26. Right. We corrected 30. That means there's four million, but we spent twenty-eight. So in other words, we gained the net is two million. [1:43:41, 1:43:46]: Okay. So we have two million over expenses, yes. Over the expenses we had. [1:43:46, 1:43:51]: And um I appreciate you saying that. I think we've said this over and over again, and it's been a topic. [1:43:52, 1:43:56]: Of discussion for a very long time in regards to the amphitheater. [1:43:56, 1:44:05]: Guess what? We're done we're gonna do a community center. We've done um for youth and senior, we call it youth and senior, but it's a community center and we're gonna we are talking about doing a art center. [1:44:06, 1:44:26]: Um, we have the Meromanders. Those are capital projects, and we don't do them to make money. They're not going to make money. We don't expect for them to make money. They are capital projects. They're for the community. And one of the first things we did was we had a study done. It was an LCI study way before. [1:44:26, 1:44:45]: Before any of us were mayor in council, and it was decided where the amphitheater was gonna be. It decided where we're gonna do a splash pad, where we're gonna put mixed-use development. It was planned out. It's an anchor building. We call it an anchor, an anchor to economic development. And since then, we have received. [1:44:46, 1:44:52]: numerous offers and opportunities that are coming our way in regards to building up the downtown area. [1:44:52, 1:45:12]: That's exactly what it's supposed to do. It's supposed to tra attract developers and other businesses to establish a place here, right in the downtown area. So we are not oblivious to it. It's just like it's the topic that won't never won't end. And you're not gonna make a lot of money when you do a community. [1:45:12, 1:45:21]: It's kind of like a YMCA or Boys and Girls Club, right? You're not you're not gonna make any money off of that. These are things that we're providing from SPLOST, by the way. [1:45:22, 1:45:42]: These are tax dollars for people who come through Henry County and they make, they sell, they buy pro buy um what from whatever retail or whatever the case may be. These are our pennies going to work. And what happens with those plus dollars? We utilize that in order to provide those different. [1:45:42, 1:45:44]: Different capital projects. [1:45:44, 1:45:52]: One of those capital projects is the amphitheater. And so I just kind of want people to know that um because [1:45:52, 1:45:58]: You know, it's all it's like a constant topic of discussion and we're moving on. [1:45:58, 1:46:05]: From that, we're actually looking at our next project, which is our community center. I believe we all agreed that's something that we want to do as well. [1:46:05, 1:46:06]: And so [1:46:06, 1:46:09]: Um we've had renderings, we've we we're moving on from that. I hope [1:46:10, 1:46:21]: That everyone will understand, again, it's a capital project. It's not here to make money. It's here to provide a service that we don't have to do somewhere else. So [1:46:22, 1:46:25]: That's it for your brief and presentation. Okay. [1:46:26, 1:46:29]: Thank you. Go ahead, sir. Appreciate your time. [1:46:30, 1:46:44]: What we have next, ladies and gentlemen, is a public hearing. Let me read these instructions here. Please mute all cell phones, electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. [1:46:45, 1:47:05]: After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant and the representatives regarding the proposed plans for property along along with and any other relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions anytime before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. 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The applicant may revert reserve part of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last. [1:47:58, 1:48:18]: Asked and may use the entire ten minutes allowed for the pro side of the applic application. If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions andor concerns. Presiding officer will call for a motion and a second to the motion and will have a necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for [1:48:18, 1:48:22]: four vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. [1:48:23, 1:48:43]: Item number three, public hearing. Once again, rezoning case RZ 2025-02 for 4482 North Henry Boulevard. Property located in Council District 4. Consideration of the City of Stockbridge initiated rezoning request to rezone property 4482 North Henry Boulevard. Parcel S26-0101. [1:48:43, 1:49:03]: From SR Suburban Residential to DTV Downtown Village Overlay District to PUD Master Plan, Plan Unit Development Master Plan, and DTV, Downtown Village Overlay District, for the purpose of allowing the construction of mixed residential development. [1:49:03, 1:49:23]: The city of Starbucks owns this property and is an applicant. The property contains 15.43 plus minus acres and is located in land lot 6162 of District 12. Mr. Ryan, please. Good evening. Um this this project went before city council, I mean planning commission on March twenty, twenty twenty five. [1:49:23, 1:49:26]: and the Planning Commission recommended um approval. [1:49:32, 1:49:50]: Here's a aerial photo of the property located at 4482 North Henry Boulevard. And in the front, uh there are two um commercial properties on each each side of the frontage on North Henry Boulevard, and the partial to the left would be where um a Tim Hortons coffee shop is planning to go. [1:49:53, 1:50:12]: Uh once again the property is 15.43 acres. Uh bordering roads are North Henry Boulevard to the south and Sarresa Drive to the west. Um bordering part parcels, two small parcels to the southwest and southeast that are that are also owned by the city. And uh we may develop them as commercial uses. [1:50:12, 1:50:22]: The base, the current base zone is SR Suburban Rev uh Residential, and it's located in the downtown Village Overlay District, and the future land use designation is downtown district. [1:50:25, 1:50:45]: Like the mayor said, the applicant is seeking to rezone from SR to DTV. Um a rezoning is needed because the SR district does not allow for townhomes. The PUD district allows and requires two types of land use. The DTV district will stay the same. Also, the proposed land uses will be compatible with the with the property's future land use designation of downtown district. [1:50:45, 1:50:48]: district. So no changes needed in the land use. [1:50:49, 1:50:52]: Here um is the zoning map but area is identified by the star. [1:50:58, 1:51:05]: Here's another um zoning map identified by the star. You can see the surrounding zoning is mostly SR. [1:51:08, 1:51:13]: Here's the overlay district map that encompasses the downtown overlay district. [1:51:14, 1:51:23]: Here's the future land use map and you can see it is compatible with the surrounding zoning because the land use amendment is not needed. Here's a survey of the property. [1:51:25, 1:51:30]: Here's the proposed site plan. Um this site plan um [1:51:31, 1:51:50]: I know there's talk about the uh Rock Quarry Road extension uh coming through this parcel. I spoke with the developer. He said the project would still be viable. They would just the city mainly used the the the commercial track to the e to the east of this property, but Tim Hortons and the and uh most of the residential units would still be viable. [1:51:52, 1:52:07]: Um the density of the proposed development will be 4.3 units per acre. It will be 67 units on 15 acres. Uh the breakdown for the mixed use will be 42 townhomes in the front of the property and 25 single family dwellings in the rear. [1:52:07, 1:52:13]: Property access would be off North Henry Boulevard with a secondary access as an extension of Sarresta Drive. [1:52:13, 1:52:33]: There will be four internal streets, including the Sarresta Drive extension and a cul-de-sac. There will be a monument sign proposed to be located on the west side of the entrance at North Henry Boulevard. For adminages, they will have two landscape pavilions. The single family units, the size of them will be 55 feet wide by 80 feet deep. [1:52:33, 1:52:37]: The town homes would be twenty four feet wide by forty six feet deep. [1:52:40, 1:53:00]: Review of the applicable zoning regulations. Um I'm just gonna run through this. PUD is intended to provide for balanced neighborhoods. Property must have at least three acres. Project must have two or more different uses. And in this project we only will have uh townhomes and uh single family and uh and it requires a master plan and [1:53:00, 1:53:05]: And we have a concept plan that will be adopted, uh, with this zoning if it passes tonight. [1:53:07, 1:53:11]: Uh I'ma summer it up, Mara staff recommended approval for this project. [1:53:12, 1:53:16]: Okay. All right. Thank you for that. All right. Questions? Ms. Barber Goy, please. [1:53:17, 1:53:18]: Thank you, Mayor. [1:53:19, 1:53:24]: This area is within the city council district that I represent. [1:53:25, 1:53:26]: I have a number of concerns. [1:53:27, 1:53:29]: Um in fact there are some homeowners here. [1:53:30, 1:53:32]: Um who have concerns also. [1:53:33, 1:53:34]: For the record I support [1:53:35, 1:53:38]: redevelopment and revitalization. [1:53:38, 1:53:39]: Of our downtown. [1:53:41, 1:53:42]: I believe in smart growth. [1:53:43, 1:53:46]: You mentioned about the Rock Quarry and Road extension. [1:53:48, 1:53:49]: I'm wondering [1:53:50, 1:53:52]: Why would we not? [1:53:52, 1:53:54]: Wait until after. [1:53:54, 1:53:57]: The Rock Quarry Road extension is underway. [1:53:58, 1:53:59]: [6840.0, 6858.0]: This proposal. We probably will wait, but um uh we still need to rezone the property to PUD as part of the process. Uh I talked to the developer and he said even if if you talked to the developer. The potential developer, even if it's a four lane road, he stated that the project will still be viable. [1:54:19, 1:54:23]: That's good to know. The other thing other concern I have though [1:54:24, 1:54:27]: This was property that the URA had been discussing. [1:54:28, 1:54:31]: So I am confused. [1:54:32, 1:54:33]: As to how we go from [1:54:34, 1:54:38]: The URA to now to the city considering [1:54:39, 1:54:59]: rezoning it. Uh like I told you like I uh informed you previously whether it's it's the URA or the city. The URA is the armor of the city, so the city still is the owner of the property. Okay. Thank you, sir. All right. My my comments are directed to members of the governing body, not you per se because I know you're only doing [1:54:59, 1:55:00]: Doing what you've been told to do. [1:55:01, 1:55:01]: Yeah. [1:55:01, 1:55:05]: One of the questions I do have the letter of intent. [1:55:05, 1:55:06]: Mayor Ford. [1:55:07, 1:55:08]: I was told [1:55:09, 1:55:10]: that you signed that. [1:55:10, 1:55:14]: So I No, I didn't say Mayor Ford signed a letter of intent. [1:55:15, 1:55:18]: I said Mayor Ford signed the rezoning application. [1:55:18, 1:55:19]: Which [1:55:19, 1:55:20]: He is authorized to do. [1:55:22, 1:55:27]: So my question is, the letter of intent had not been approved by the council. [1:55:28, 1:55:29]: Um [1:55:29, 1:55:38]: So I have some concerns regarding Councilman Bark intent. My question is is directed to the mayor. [1:55:39, 1:55:59]: Well I'm gonna tell you what, I'm gonna let Mr. Mr. Anderson answer. No, no, hold a second you you you directed to me, I'm gonna defer, if you don't mind. Mr. Anderson, go ahead and answer the question first. Uh Councilmember Barber, um the staff, one of the staff roles is to bring proposals to the city council. And the city manager, when he was here, he he was executive of the city. [1:55:59, 1:56:07]: So he was authorized to bring proposals forward to the city. And if we adopt this tonight, then we can move forward with the letter of intent. [1:56:07, 1:56:09]: So right now it's just a draft. [1:56:10, 1:56:12]: I appreciate that, Mr. Anderson. [1:56:13, 1:56:15]: My question is directed. [1:56:15, 1:56:16]: to the mayor of the city. [1:56:17, 1:56:20]: Because the former city manager [1:56:21, 1:56:24]: Had already left prior to you adding this item. [1:56:25, 1:56:26]: On this agenda. [1:56:26, 1:56:28]: And the mayor in his capacity. [1:56:29, 1:56:31]: Of city manager. [1:56:31, 1:56:36]: He would have authorized you to be able to add this item to the agenda. [1:56:37, 1:56:42]: That is why my questions are directly to the person who authorized this. [1:56:43, 1:56:45]: Again I will ask the mayor. [1:56:45, 1:56:47]: The letter of intent. [1:56:47, 1:56:49]: had never been approved. [1:56:50, 1:56:51]: By the URA. [1:56:51, 1:56:53]: or the city council. [1:56:54, 1:56:55]: So I wanna know. [1:56:56, 1:56:56]: From you. [1:56:57, 1:56:58]: When [1:56:58, 1:57:18]: And why did you sign this letter of intent without it being presented? I didn't sign the letter of tent. He just told you I signed the application, the pr application. I didn't sign the letter of tent. The letter of tent was signed. Why would you sign the application when it had not been approved by the council? Because it's coming before the council for this this change here. That's why I signed it. [1:57:18, 1:57:38]: ask me questions and I'm perfectly legal in doing that. Okay, that's perfectly legal. I haven't done anything illegal. All right. And I will say that the the the absolute letter that the city manager signed, he sounded signed in good good faith as well. And I I would have to go further with the URA URA versus the city council. If there's some I don't know if there's any legal aspect there, our attorneys here and whether or not we can discuss this in open form. But I didn't [1:57:38, 1:57:45]: Do anything wrong, I'm pretty sure that the city manager in his in his capacity months ago didn't do anything wrong either. That's my answer to your question. [1:57:45, 1:57:50]: Okay. If I may, sir, then for you or [1:57:50, 1:57:54]: The former city manager. I've been asking since November. [1:57:54, 1:58:01]: When the URA was discussing this property, I've been asking for the appraisals of the property. [1:58:02, 1:58:04]: It seems like there a lot of [1:58:05, 1:58:13]: Closed door meetings and discussions that are being had, but they're not being had with the full council. So, what I'm asking in order for me to consider. [1:58:14, 1:58:34]: Staff's recommendation of this. I'm asking you, sir, to give me the appraisals that I've been asking for since October of last year. Well, I will tell you this, but I will tell you that my questions are directly. I'm gonna tell you by it. I would tell you that we're Mr. Anderson. I will tell you that we this council has not legislated by [1:58:34, 1:58:47]: Not illegal but certainly unethical. Will you let me finish it? Because it is apparently a whole lot of closed door meetings that I have not been a p a part of. [1:58:47, 1:59:07]: There are decisions that are being made behind closed doors without the full counsel. Point questions get control my questions still remain. I am asking for a copy of the floor of the appraisal. I want you all to understand what his role is. His role [1:59:07, 1:59:08]: [7149.4, 7150.6]: Every time I speak. [1:59:11, 1:59:12]: That's his assignment. [1:59:13, 1:59:14]: is to deflect [1:59:14, 1:59:20]: To talk over me, so you cannot hear what I'm saying. I have asked consistently. [1:59:20, 1:59:27]: Please provide me with the appraisals of these properties that are owned by the city. [1:59:27, 1:59:32]: The city can make whatever decision it wants to make regarding its own property. [1:59:32, 1:59:36]: There are processes and protocols you may follow. [1:59:37, 1:59:48]: You must follow them. I've been challenging this council on the process since October of last year. Give me the appraisals of not only [1:59:48, 1:59:56]: There's 15 acres that the city owns and give me the appraisal of the three acres that the city owns right across from City Hall. [1:59:56, 1:59:58]: So I can make decisions. [1:59:59, 2:00:06]: Based on what I believe is in the best interest of our city. It seems like you all are having a whole lot of conversations. [2:00:06, 2:00:08]: Without the full counsel. [2:00:08, 2:00:15]: That's perfectly okay. But what you're not gonna do is get up in this meeting when I ask a question, then deflect. [2:00:16, 2:00:18]: You will share the information. [2:00:19, 2:00:20]: I want it right now. [2:00:21, 2:00:29]: If you want my support, I do not like Mayor Ford when you put staff in these kinds of positions, because is it it is clear. [2:00:29, 2:00:43]: Mr. Aaron is only doing what he's been told to do. His name is Anderson. He is unaware of all of the requests that I have sent time and time again to you and to the previous city city manager. [2:00:43, 2:00:53]: I'm still asking for the same do and to the city attorney, I'm still asking for the same documents I've been asking for since October. [2:00:53, 2:01:08]: If you want me to stop coming to these meetings and causing a disruption in your book, then you will respect me as a member of this council. Provide me with the same information. [2:01:08, 2:01:13]: the same details as every other member of this council. This is my district. [2:01:14, 2:01:18]: You're disrupting the peace of the people who live ra around here. [2:01:18, 2:01:27]: And if you think I'm not gonna ask questions, I am. And I'm not going to stop. Censor me if you wish, but I'm not gonna stop asking questions. [2:01:28, 2:01:33]: Unethical? Absolutely. Illegal? Perhaps not, but you're certainly unethical. [2:01:34, 2:01:36]: Every single one of you sitting up here. [2:01:36, 2:01:56]: Hold on. Hold a hold hold a second. I will tell you what, Council McBarber. First of all, if you we we have not had once again, and don't interrupt you,'cause I didn't interrupt you. We did not have any illegal meetings. There might be some meetings we conducted and maybe you weren't present for, by the way. And if you if hold on a second, I didn't stop you. I didn't stop you. So the thing of it is is [2:01:56, 2:02:16]: Is that now you'll get appraisals when everybody else gets appraisals. I don't know why you didn't get them before, but if we would need appraisal, everybody will get them simultaneously. But hold on a second, hold on a second. So you know some of your allegations are out of line and they're not truthful, but whatever. You know, you want to we're gonna go on those rants here. But I was one first of all, [2:02:16, 2:02:21]: I'm gonna stop right there at this point. Um actually, all right, Ms. Gann, go ahead, please. Thank you, Mayor. [2:02:21, 2:02:22]: Um [2:02:22, 2:02:26]: I'm not doing anything unethical. I am listening to Mr. Anderson. [2:02:26, 2:02:27]: And [2:02:27, 2:02:29]: There hasn't been a LOI. [2:02:30, 2:02:31]: There is [2:02:31, 2:02:34]: No contract currently to [2:02:34, 2:02:54]: purchase. These are things that are done in a process to say, okay, this may actually take place or someone has some type of interest. We already knew about the coffee shop. We did discuss the land value, but that those are things that we talk about in executive session. So we're we're skirting a thin line here. Where we need to [2:02:54, 2:03:02]: Understand that real estate, issues of real estate, sale of it, real estate, what we're doing with real estate is certainly. [2:03:02, 2:03:03]: Um [2:03:04, 2:03:05]: Pursuant to the Georgia [2:03:05, 2:03:11]: code of law is certainly something that we need to do in executive session. And so [2:03:11, 2:03:11]: Um [2:03:12, 2:03:16]: There has been discussions I remember, if I recall right. [2:03:16, 2:03:23]: There were discussions on getting appraisals or whatever we were gonna do, but some of these things weren't disclosed. [2:03:23, 2:03:43]: Um and aren't to be talked about because we actually talked about them in executive session. Whether or not council members stayed in executive session to listen or they got upset and walked out, that's on them. But these things were disclosed. These things are disclosed in wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. [2:03:43, 2:03:46]: Listen, I'm not listening I'm saying that's on them. [2:03:47, 2:04:07]: Whether or not they I'm not lying. Mayor advisor. Mayor let me say that for the record. Council member. Hold on, she's still talking. What are you doing? Stop lying. Mayor, she has the floor. So whether or not people or or any council member walks out in executive session or they are [2:04:07, 2:04:27]: Not hearing. I have never walked by an executive session regarding a real estate matter. Never speak. Miss Barber. Don't lie. No, I'm not gonna sit here and let you lie. I don't care how many I don't care if it's you're not going to lie. Mayor. You are not going to lie. Don't lie. Real estate is to be discussed in exactly. [2:04:26, 2:04:35]: You might want to discuss it in executive session, but I'm not gonna sit here and I ask that we move on to the public hearing portion, but we will in a second. Thank you. Mr. Alexander. [2:04:36, 2:04:56]: Uh what I wanna do is I wanna apologize to everybody out there. What you have seen tonight is totally unacceptable. In order to get respect, you gotta give respect. You can't talk over everybody, you can't interrupt everybody, you can't do this meeting. I'm talking the mayor recognized. [2:04:56, 2:05:16]: Gaslighting. Miss Barber, would you let him speak? I hope y'all recognize the gaslighting. The mayor This is in my district. The mayor recognize us and then we are allowed to speak. We operate under Robert's rules of order. You just can't jump in and speak because you get upset. We get very emotional up here. We do. [2:05:16, 2:05:36]: These issues matter greatly to us. But you must comport yourself and conduct yourself in the manner befitting of this office as we sit up here and we talk. I'm still talking right now, and yet I'm being interrupted. Yet, Miss Barber asked for respect a few minutes ago. The most disrespectful thing that you can [2:05:35, 2:05:42]: Can do is to continue. The mayor is the presiding officer in this meeting. He's been totally disrespected tonight. [2:05:43, 2:05:58]: His orders have been ignored. They've been spoken over. He's been called a liar. He's been called names. All of us have been called I've told all of us have been called Don't lie. It's my speaking time. Again. [2:05:59, 2:06:00]: It's my speaking time. [2:06:01, 2:06:03]: It's like someone once said, I'm speaking now. [2:06:04, 2:06:20]: See, the difference is, is that if you want respect, you have to give it and you have to comport yourself that way. You we vote up here. Nobody has an axe to grind. All of us vote. We have an individual vote. Things don't go my way sometimes. [2:06:21, 2:06:29]: Things might not go Miss Gantt's way or Miss Mayor Pro Tunbar or Councilman Councilman Thomas's way. But what we do is we count to three. [2:06:29, 2:06:49]: If the three if you can't get three votes, I don't care what you think, it's not going anywhere. Don't matter what I think or any of us think. The mayor doesn't even get the vote. But he runs the meeting in an effective way. He is the most patient man that I know because I would not have tolerated this at this point. I certainly would have actually. [2:06:49, 2:07:04]: acquiesced and had some uh enforcement up here. But certainly we want to move forward with the meeting and not waste any more of your time. So I offer my apology to you because this meeting has gotten totally out of hand. I'm sorry. Okay. So [2:07:05, 2:07:25]: So what what's gonna happen is you you got anything else, sir? Go ahead, please. Yes, sir. I just want to clarify something. The reason you signed the rezoning application because you're in you signed it in your capacity as city acting city manager. If a city manager had been here, that person would have signed it. So you signed uh rezoning application. It would have came to me anyway. Yes. Okay. So all right, got it. So that's that's all for you right now. [2:07:25, 2:07:30]: Right now. That's it. Okay. So what we're gonna do now folks, we'll uh open up the public hearing for your comments. [2:07:31, 2:07:51]: And so I'm gonna start on my very uh I'll start on my very left-hand side. So anybody over here on my far left side that wants to make any comments uh against this, uh we'll start with against against this, line up on this side. Anybody in the middle that wants to make any uh comments against this, line up on this side, please. All right, anybody on on this side, uh my far right, any comments. [2:07:51, 2:07:56]: It's against this uh zoning peak. Line up on the side, okay? Line up on the side. [2:07:58, 2:08:02]: This line up inside. All right. [2:08:04, 2:08:05]: All right, now [2:08:05, 2:08:07]: What we do is that uh [2:08:07, 2:08:13]: Uh we'll start the clock, but sir when you come up when you come up, give your name and address and and go ahead and make your comments. [2:08:14, 2:08:15]: And make sure the green light is on. [2:08:20, 2:08:23]: Good evening everyone. Uh my name is uh Ken of Sands. [2:08:25, 2:08:35]: Speak of I said good after good evening. I said my name is Kenneth Sands. You got an address, please? Yes. Four zero one Fairhaven Court. [2:08:37, 2:08:57]: My concern is I just moved I moved here about three years ago. I um noticed that the numbers that you said are consistent in regards to the city growing. Well, I've been looking for employment in this area for a while now and it has been very, very challenging. [2:08:57, 2:09:17]: Um, I do have a bachelor's in business. I am in pursuit right now of wanting to be a counselor. I have been doing a lot of ripping and running today. The last piece of information I'm looking for to get that done is my school. I went to Westwood College in Atlanta and mid-Chap. [2:09:17, 2:09:31]: Town, they closed about five, six years ago. So it's gonna take me about 10 days, business days, to get a transcript, official transcript from that school. I am looking right now at this moment. [2:09:32, 2:09:38]: to be an intern, to do anything that would allow me to pursue my dream as a counselor. [2:09:39, 2:09:52]: I'm very, very, very passionate about helping people and doing what you guys do, but on a different level. And whatever assistance you can give to me right now would be truly appreciative. [2:09:52, 2:09:57]: Appreciate the comments to to be in reference to the the zoning issue. Re re zoning surf, please. [2:09:58, 2:10:00]: You're you're done, sir, right? Okay, sure. Go ahead. [2:10:01, 2:10:01]: Yeah. [2:10:02, 2:10:03]: Okay, name and address please. [2:10:04, 2:10:24]: Paul Turner again, address two five four Wobbler Way, Stockbridge, Georgia. Um, this is not my district whatsoever. Um I'm just against for um any more townhomes and any more apartments. Um as you can see well, as I've seen in some of the audits, the residents are taking sixty percent of the burden. [2:10:24, 2:10:44]: of expenses versus commercial properties. We have to stop allowing these builders come in and uh dictate uh the commercial use of properties. Uh we have to uh keep intact the CPA, which does deny uh builders from coming in. [2:10:44, 2:10:48]: Um we have to continue to um [2:10:48, 2:10:53]: get appraisals for any properties that are owned by the city. [2:10:53, 2:11:12]: any land that is owned by the city, that's how we get the best bang for our buck. Uh some of you are realtors, so that's that's common sense. Um so yes, I'm against this because it is town homes, it is um residential, it's not commercial use. So I am again against this bill. [2:11:13, 2:11:15]: Thank you. Next please ma'am. Name and address. [2:11:18, 2:11:38]: Tara Brown, uh PO box six five four Stockbridge. And um I'm not professional at this by any means. Um I'm just opposed to this. It concerns me s for two reasons. One, the traffic is very hectic as it is out there, and if we're gonna make more of [2:11:38, 2:11:58]: Of a master plan uh with reg r residential development. I'm concerned that that will make it more. Also, my concern is that there's very few trees, and that's fifteen acres of trees for wildlife. And I'm concerned that they keep having less and less space to go. And those were just my two concerns on. [2:11:58, 2:12:02]: That's it. Thank you. Ma'am, please name and address. [2:12:07, 2:12:09]: Yes, good afternoon. My name is [2:12:09, 2:12:19]: My name is Brenda Brenda Callaway and I was at the planning committee and I do oppose the rezoning because I am on the street that you all wanna cut through, Sarisa. [2:12:19, 2:12:25]: And I oppose it because of the traffic. Sarisa is already a very small street. [2:12:25, 2:12:27]: And to rezone and move. [2:12:27, 2:12:31]: Residence, you know, you're gonna have to do something with the street. [2:12:31, 2:12:37]: People come over to visit. The kids actually can go outside and play. I'm looking at the traffic. I have grandchildren. [2:12:37, 2:12:40]: And right now we on a cul-de-sac. [2:12:40, 2:12:42]: And they can go outside and play and if you put [2:12:42, 2:13:02]: Houses and townhouses not opposed to change. It's not that it's just you putting all these residential properties right in a small area and you're buffering the noise from the amphitheater is already bad enough and that's gonna make it worse. So I'm concerned about the traffic and more traffic, more housing and [2:13:02, 2:13:18]: And as a gentleman said, I don't see a lot of commercial properties coming into this area. So I do oppose that. And what is your address on Carissa now? Pardon me? Your address? What's your address? 102 Sarissa Drive. Oh Sarissa. Thank you very much. Yes. Okay. Next, please. Name and address. [2:13:21, 2:13:29]: Hello, my name is Quisha Purpal and my address is 127th Bryant Street. Um, and I am also against um [2:13:29, 2:13:45]: the development um and if you guys didn't mind, I did go ahead and put the proposed plight site plan back up just to give a visual. I am not against redevelopment. I understand that the city has 500 acres that has been used and will be used. Um [2:13:46, 2:13:57]: Why'd you make that face? Yeah. Yeah. Um, because you own it, then there isn't a need for um [2:13:57, 2:14:16]: you guys for for taking over the land. However, it just has to be something that works for everyone, not only the city, but the residents as well. When we look at this plan here, we have to think about infrastructure. We have North Henry Boulevard and the amount of traffic that's going to be there. Ceresa Drive, the width of it, this room is larger than Ceresa Drive. [2:14:16, 2:14:18]: When we talk about cutting through [2:14:18, 2:14:24]: My neighbors won't be able to back out of their home. Ceresa Drive is gonna run directly into North Henry Street. [2:14:24, 2:14:44]: Then let's think about when we have events at the amphitheater. If we're adding approximately 67 units or so, we have to think about the traffic that is then now going to be in place just on North Leaf Drive alone, with not only these 67 residents, but the few houses that we do have on Bryant Street and or also on North Leaf Street as well. [2:14:44, 2:15:04]: If we look at this site plan here, I don't know if it makes sense from an aerial view, but when you stand in the place of the resident, if you come to my home in my backyard, it makes no sense. I will be looking directly at a street. The street that runs from North Henry Boulevard to the retention plan, when my neighbor comes out, [2:15:04, 2:15:05]: Yeah. [2:15:05, 2:15:09]: There is a street now there with traffic just running through. [2:15:09, 2:15:23]: Yes, the demographic is changing. Most of my neighbors are were 80 and 90 years old. Now we have younger couples that are moving in. Each time one older one moves out, a younger one moves in. So we have to think about the safety of the children. And we also have to think about [2:15:23, 2:15:27]: Um it's safety for the residents. We have poor lighting. [2:15:28, 2:15:48]: Poor lighting on North Henry Boulevard. If the lights go out at the gas station next to the bottle shop or at the quick trap, quick trip, there is no light for North Henry Boulevard. Poor lighting then increases crime. So what are we doing about what will we have in place for crime? Yes, we want to go ahead and build up the area and we want to attract commercial use, but we are [2:15:48, 2:15:52]: are putting in more people with nothing to do. What happens when people get bored? [2:15:53, 2:15:57]: And that'd be all. Thank you very much. Sir, name and address please. [2:16:03, 2:16:10]: Yeah, point of order. Um no, I just want to ask you a coin of clarification. We usually been doing ten and ten, I don't say a clock. [2:16:12, 2:16:32]: Oh okay, so okay, so you do have the two. I may need a little more time. Um my name is Richard Ordonis. I live at 112 Man Boulevard with my wife. We live there over 30 years. She was born and raised in Stockbridge and has seen all the changes, good, bad, and different. Um I have several major concerns regarding the rezoning of the property we're discussing this evening. [2:16:32, 2:16:44]: evening. Hopefully I'll have time to get through all of them as they include traffic, safety for residents, especially children, natural water flow from the underground springs, which I'm not sure you know exist, animal habitat, [2:16:45, 2:16:49]: And the effects of the quarry as a result of the additional buildings proposed. Number one. [2:16:50, 2:16:54]: There appears to be two perso proposed road entrance exits as well as a sidewalk. [2:16:55, 2:16:59]: Traffic on North Henry as well as North Lee Street and east of the land is extremely busy. [2:16:59, 2:17:06]: Adding that proposed amount of homes will increase the automobiles by possibly a hundred and maybe more vehicles. [2:17:06, 2:17:10]: From the maps we received it has two entrance and exits at North Henry Boulevard. [2:17:12, 2:17:21]: They're labeled Street A and Main Street. It doesn't show any other exit, but possibilities look like a street named D Street and Main Street. D Street appears to be the one [2:17:22, 2:17:25]: At the dead end where Cold De Sac on Siserisa Drive is. [2:17:26, 2:17:30]: If D Street exits the proposed fight, will it exit through the cul de sac on Seriza Drive? [2:17:31, 2:17:34]: If so, this will wreak havoc on several streets. [2:17:35, 2:17:38]: Saresa Saresa Drive X is at North Lee Street. [2:17:39, 2:17:42]: Traffic can currently go either to East Atlanta by the amphitheater. [2:17:43, 2:17:46]: North Lee Street to Bryant and or North Henry Boulevard. [2:17:47, 2:17:51]: Two of these directions will cause increased traffic on East Atlanta, which is already crowded. [2:17:52, 2:17:56]: Turning left onto North Lee Street, we'll see an increase in traffic on North Henry Boulevard. [2:17:57, 2:18:00]: Turning right on Northley Street will take it to Bryant Street. [2:18:00, 2:18:02]: Which currently has a no cut through sign. [2:18:02, 2:18:03]: From East Atlanta. [2:18:04, 2:18:06]: And we're still talking about cesarea. [2:18:06, 2:18:14]: There's not appear to be any way a traffic light can be installed from the proposed A Street and Main Street exits onto North Henry Boulevard. [2:18:15, 2:18:28]: If this is the case and the residents exit onto North Henry, it will be extremely difficult since Rock Quarry and North Henry already have a traffic light with tremendous traffic, which has grown tremendously over the years and doesn't seem to be stopping. [2:18:28, 2:18:34]: So there does not appear to be any exit that would not cause a great increase in traffic in any direction. [2:18:35, 2:18:36]: In addition, there has been a splost. [2:18:37, 2:18:39]: in this city for expansion of Rock Cory Road. [2:18:40, 2:18:47]: Expansion along with new housing, construction and traffic will cause more traffic delays if expansion and construction coincide. [2:18:48, 2:18:52]: I would imagine we'll give them extra time to continue on. So go ahead, sir. Finish your statement. Thank you. [2:18:53, 2:19:00]: Uh expansion along with new housing construction and traffic would cause more delays if the expansion on Rock Quarry and the construction coincide. [2:19:01, 2:19:03]: Once the Rock Cory Road expansion starts. [2:19:04, 2:19:06]: The backups will also affect traffic on Flippin' Road. [2:19:07, 2:19:08]: North Henry Boulevard. [2:19:08, 2:19:09]: Highway forty two [2:19:10, 2:19:12]: Eagles Landing Parkway and Hudson Bridge Road. [2:19:13, 2:19:19]: Any situations causing more delays as was as was experienced not too long ago at Piedmont Henry Hospital. [2:19:20, 2:19:26]: Affect the entire area as drivers try and find alternate routes on roads that are already heavily congested. [2:19:28, 2:19:32]: Number two, if this construction is approved, consideration must be given for the safety of children [2:19:33, 2:19:36]: In regards to the site and the creek that runs through it. [2:19:37, 2:19:44]: Children have a natural inquisitive nature and they must be protected. I know this is city property, but the children are its citizens. [2:19:45, 2:19:46]: And they have an inclination [2:19:47, 2:19:49]: To explore and see nature and its wildlife. [2:19:51, 2:19:51]: Number three. [2:19:52, 2:19:56]: There are natural underground springs on this property as well as on man boulevards. [2:19:57, 2:20:03]: These are a natural runoff into the creek, which sits behind my house. Well actually it sits on my property. [2:20:03, 2:20:06]: Given the number of units proposed, these springs will be affected. [2:20:07, 2:20:11]: Also, the runoff from the proposed site will cause more runoff towards existing homes and businesses. [2:20:12, 2:20:20]: The property and creek also have runoff water from the odd number properties on Man Boulevard, since the even number properties are downhill. [2:20:20, 2:20:25]: From the properties across the street as well as the street itself, causing more fast mo fast moving drainage. [2:20:26, 2:20:34]: With a strong rainstorm, the water in the creek can rise as much as six feet or more in a matter of minutes. I stand up there and I watch this all the time. [2:20:34, 2:20:35]: It jumps up fast. [2:20:36, 2:20:41]: Number four, the proposed construction site would yet again destroy another wildlife habitat. [2:20:42, 2:20:54]: All wildlife, including deer, raccoon, possums, etc., will no longer have that habitat area. We see the deer, we see the fawns, we see the raccoons, we see the possum, we see a fox. We love wildlife, but they will no longer have that habitat area. [2:20:56, 2:21:02]: With all recent expansions in the city, as well as Henry County, they are having a difficult time trying to find a habitat to live in. [2:21:04, 2:21:21]: I would also like to see a study done on the effects of the existing homes, the new construction have regarding blasts from the Rock Quarry. If you do not live within the city limits right near Rock Quarry, you do not know that the blasts affect the homes. We feel the vibrations in our homes when that Rock Quarry does their blasting. It vibrates the homes. [2:21:23, 2:21:26]: The blasts and explosions are felt by the residents. [2:21:27, 2:21:28]: But the property [2:21:28, 2:21:29]: In question here. [2:21:29, 2:21:31]: As it exists now, allow some of [2:21:32, 2:21:33]: The blast to be absorbed. [2:21:34, 2:21:35]: Through the trees, through the ground. [2:21:36, 2:21:37]: Not a problem. [2:21:38, 2:21:53]: If the construction is done these blasts may cause more re reverberations to existing homes because the new homes going up, possibly from the last meeting that I was at, possibly four stories, the blasts will hit those homes reverberate towards our current homes around the area. [2:21:55, 2:21:58]: This may cause damage down the road to those homes. [2:22:00, 2:22:05]: The council has an obligation to its citizens of whom we are we are Stockbridge. [2:22:07, 2:22:27]: We want to see the things done that are not going to hurt us, the things that are going to make us enjoy living our lives, things that's going to protect our children, protect the wildlife, protect us. And I think the council I appreciate you looking at these issues and these items that I brought up. Thank you. Thank you for time. Okay. Thank you, sir. Now, anybody from my far left that's for this [2:22:27, 2:22:32]: uh development. That's four on my far my far left. Anybody in the middle? [2:22:33, 2:22:47]: Anybody in my far right, Ford Vellum. Okay, on that note I'm gonna close this public hearing at this point. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Anderson. Now, a couple things, Ms. Anderson. And maybe I missed it, so let me reach back and try to catch this. [2:22:49, 2:22:57]: Uh any reference to the lighting, uh street lighting, s lighting per se, anything like that, anything you can expound on in reference to the development at all. [2:22:58, 2:23:08]: Not at this time. I mean, I'm not aware of the lights back there at night. Okay, ca okay, Miss Aaron. If you can if you can spend shed some light on this, that'd be fine. [2:23:18, 2:23:38]: Yes, sir. In reference to development, I mean I don't know how much you know about any type of lighting, lighting this is down now in the city uh now in that particular area of our city, what's scheduled for the future, reference to development, anything like that? Can you expound on it? Typically developers submit a street lighting plan as part of their their process and proposals. And also with that being a major thoroughfare, I'm sure the city will [2:23:37, 2:23:47]: we want to put street lights on that extension once the road is built, but the street lights are submitted for approval for the subdivision or development. [2:23:47, 2:23:53]: Mayor. Okay. Yes, sir. Follow up question. There's street lights on North Henry Boulevard right now, right? There's street lights there. [2:23:53, 2:24:13]: Yes, sir, they are. Certainly. There's they've been there. There's been a part of our comprehensive street light program in terms of overall. Just if anyone had noticed, we had just had the new lights installed at East Atlanta Road and North Lee Street. Those those lights are now capped. It's a lot brighter at those intersections. [2:24:13, 2:24:33]: There's been numerous streetlights that have been added along East Atlanta Road, along this corridor here. And the best thing you'll know when Rock Quarry Road's widening is getting ready to start. And when it starts, there'll be streetlights all the way along Rock Quarry Road, in addition to this. And I did want to speak to the [2:24:33, 2:24:38]: Teresa Drive would not be running into North Henry Boulevard, right? It th that's not the plan, correct? [2:24:40, 2:24:42]: Uh no. I have a um [2:24:42, 2:25:02]: You have a design of that you can show that it's it's not. It runs into it'll be running into the future Rock Quarry Road extension, which is exactly yes, yes. Right now, it will be running through the ni this development to Rock Quarry Road extension. The Rock Quarry Road extension will extend from uh [2:25:02, 2:25:22]: where it is right now at uh North Enry Boulevard to old Conyers when it is complete. The city has two million dollars in uh in our uh T splotch program for that extension, but certainly we're trying to gather more information to be able to supplement and to provide additional uh infrastructure for [2:25:22, 2:25:42]: For that particular area. Um, because it right now it makes no sense to have to get off of Rock Quarry Road, come down to East Atlanta, and then go north. You should be able to continue straight, and that's the plan uh in the future, is to be able to move that act to Rock Quarry Roads widen. Rock Quarry goes north and south, Chris. [2:25:42, 2:26:02]: the road would go east and west. Correct. So they would intersect. They would intersect and that. So um in reference to traffic though, it's a couple different entrances, I guess, in and out. In in and out, I guess would be some types of um road structure to allow for desail, acceleration, things of that nature. Yes sir, may uh mayor the developer [2:26:02, 2:26:10]: We'll have to make uh roadway improvements as required by code. So left turn uh a D Cell lane will be installed. [2:26:10, 2:26:22]: Yes. And we have two or three different entries inside this community. How many do you have? Let me go t I I r just on Friday after this was already uploaded, I received something from the developer. Mm-hmm. Uh another um [2:26:24, 2:26:24]: Mayor. [2:26:25, 2:26:26]: Yes, please. Yes. [2:26:27, 2:26:33]: I wanted Mr. Aaron to speak more about the Rock Quarry Road extension. If you okay, if you can. [2:26:36, 2:26:39]: Because I wanna make sure that the people who are here [2:26:40, 2:26:41]: understand that there [2:26:41, 2:26:43]: There are two separate projects. [2:26:43, 2:26:45]: We have the Rock Quarry Road. [2:26:45, 2:26:47]: Whitening project. [2:26:47, 2:26:57]: Then there's the Rock Quarrier Road extension project. If you can just share a little bit more insight into that, Mr. Aaron. Put that on the screen. [2:27:01, 2:27:07]: And what you're looking for, gentlemen, is dealing with the the entrance and exits uh out of the community, is that what you're looking for? [2:27:08, 2:27:20]: No, sir. I was trying to show a an updated um uh site plan I received from the developer. Okay, I got it. Okay, appreciate it. I was trying to get on the screen. I forgot. It's not on the screen. Hey Joe, go on. [2:27:22, 2:27:42]: Uh Mr. Aaron, go ahead, please. On the Rock Quarry Road extension, you allocated two million dollars in T Splas One. That is for the design of the road extension. Two million dollars is near not enough to actually build the road. This is just for the design of that road. So in the future when as funding become available, then [2:27:42, 2:27:44]: you will actually build the road. [2:27:45, 2:27:55]: Okay, so that two million dollars for the Rock Quarry Road extension, um, that was approved through a referendum T Splash? Yes. Okay. [2:27:56, 2:27:58]: And voters approve the extension? [2:27:59, 2:28:02]: Yes, as part of that T splice problem. Okay. Then [2:28:03, 2:28:04]: Mr Malazi. [2:28:05, 2:28:19]: Um are there any funds are there any funds allocated to that project beyond the two million dollars for the study? Ms. Mulaji, come to the that's all the uh counsel allocated in the in the T Splash one. [2:28:20, 2:28:25]: Was for the actual design of that roadway. Just the design. Yes. So we don't have the funding. [2:28:25, 2:28:31]: To actually move forward. Not at this time, you don't. Not at this time. Yes. But yet we are considering. [2:28:31, 2:28:32]: approving [2:28:33, 2:28:36]: Um this rezoning case which is gonna open a door. [2:28:37, 2:28:39]: For this letter of intent that [2:28:39, 2:28:40]: The council ought [2:28:41, 2:28:43]: My councilmates authorized [2:28:43, 2:28:51]: I just wanted to know, Mr. Malazzi, if the council um approved budgeting to move forward with the Rock Quarry Road extension. [2:28:52, 2:28:54]: Mr. Aaron just said that they [2:28:54, 2:28:55]: They did not [2:28:57, 2:29:08]: But the money that's allocated, it's gonna be the design and a set of plans that'll lay out the roadway so that you avoid that area if there's some development in that area. It specifies [2:29:08, 2:29:12]: Where the road will be, what the width of the road is, what the length of the road. [2:29:13, 2:29:33]: So that this will be staked out. If there's a developer there, they know where the right-of-way is gonna be, they know where the lanes of traffic are gonna be. The money was just set aside for the actual design of the roadway. You can come back at a future splots, future ALMIG, and say, Well, we're gonna allocate funding, or you go before your [2:29:33, 2:29:37]: your federal officials and ask if they can earmark funding for that role but [2:29:38, 2:29:46]: Well that's how it would happen. Well, for me, um, I thought we were moving forward with the design of it. Yes, we are. [2:29:47, 2:29:50]: You are. Okay. Do you know when that will be completed? [2:29:50, 2:30:09]: No ma'am. Well it's something that you're not gonna rush this cause you got wetland issues to deal with, you got properties and other things to deal with. It's not just, hey, we snap our fingers two weeks, three weeks, four weeks. This gonna be months in the planning and design because you're gonna have to survey and all of that. So when did the voters approve? [2:30:10, 2:30:14]: Um this Rock Quarry Road extension in T-SPLOST. When was it approved? [2:30:15, 2:30:17]: Uh I think two years ago. [2:30:18, 2:30:19]: It's been a while. [2:30:19, 2:30:20]: It's been a [2:30:21, 2:30:22]: Miss Holliday. [2:30:24, 2:30:34]: It's twenty twenty one. But even when was it approved by the voters? But when even when it it was approved, you didn't get you didn't get two million dollars right then. The money comes in over time. I know. [2:30:35, 2:30:44]: My my question is um I want to make sure that we are completing the projects that voters approved. [2:30:45, 2:30:55]: We were able to move forward with several other projects. I just want to know when are we going to move forward with this? We need to make sure that we are prioritizing. [2:30:55, 2:30:56]: These projects. [2:30:57, 2:31:02]: If in fact it is the desire of my councilmates because they're driving the ship. [2:31:03, 2:31:05]: Even though this is my district. [2:31:05, 2:31:06]: А вам тем то консир. [2:31:07, 2:31:10]: Consider this Rock Quarry Road extension and how it could help. [2:31:10, 2:31:16]: Reduce some of the traffic congestions and the concerns of the homeowners who I represent. [2:31:17, 2:31:25]: I just want to know when was this Rock Quarry Road extension project approved by the voters? Was it before 2020? [2:31:25, 2:31:28]: Yes. No ma'am. Was it before twenty twenty? [2:31:29, 2:31:29]: Two. [2:31:29, 2:31:41]: Yeah, there was over th I think twenty projects y'all identified in T S PLOS. Correct. So we weren't gonna do all twenty at at one time. We didn't have the funding available. We didn't do bonds or we didn't [2:31:41, 2:31:42]: You know [2:31:42, 2:31:46]: Okay, so Mr. A thank you. Mr. Malazi. [2:31:47, 2:31:52]: May I ask maybe you know. Do you know when this two million dollars or [2:31:52, 2:31:56]: When the voters approved the Rock Quarry Road extension. [2:31:56, 2:32:15]: I don't have the particular dates, but it's in the allocation. One thing that you need to know, I'm talking beyond this, is there are some developments that you have to spend money to make money. Advelopers will not come if you don't have uh basic [2:32:16, 2:32:28]: things that will attract it to them. And that's why you do uh priorita y you have to m make priority. Even if it's not there, you have the basic money you have money to make the basic planning [2:32:29, 2:32:45]: Then when you are meeting again, we just did we just finish the uh re retreat where you are making allocations, where we are making the priorities. So if it's not there but you have designed, next time you will have where to start. [2:32:45, 2:32:52]: So you have to spend money to make money or to attract some developers. So that two million is there, yes. It's there for the design. [2:32:52, 2:33:02]: Thank you, sir. I hope my councilmates will consider this a priority when we do go and have the discussion during our fall retreat. [2:33:02, 2:33:05]: Um I'd much rather for us to focus on the infrastructure. [2:33:06, 2:33:08]: In the downtown area. [2:33:08, 2:33:10]: Before we move forward with [2:33:10, 2:33:19]: any other residential developments. If I may, Mayor Ford, I just want to read a statement into the record and I'll allow [2:33:20, 2:33:22]: My councilmates to move forward as they so wish. [2:33:23, 2:33:24]: Go ahead, quite just a [2:33:24, 2:33:27]: During the council's recent retreat. [2:33:27, 2:33:32]: Our city's financial advisor advised that we the council [2:33:32, 2:33:33]: Um [2:33:33, 2:33:36]: That our tax digest was imbalanced. [2:33:36, 2:33:40]: He stated currently our text digest shows us. [2:33:41, 2:33:42]: Seventy thirty. [2:33:42, 2:33:46]: Or was it sixty forty? Which one, Miss Holliday? Do you remember? [2:33:51, 2:33:52]: Oh okay. [2:33:53, 2:33:56]: Somewhere in between there. We'll go with sixty forty. [2:33:56, 2:33:58]: Okay. Um [2:34:00, 2:34:05]: With homeowners shouldering the tax burden to fund our city's operating expenses. [2:34:06, 2:34:09]: He also informed us that we need more commercial businesses. [2:34:09, 2:34:12]: That means not more town homes. [2:34:13, 2:34:16]: Лесворк февришли то атракт мознес. [2:34:17, 2:34:18]: to our downtown area. [2:34:19, 2:34:20]: А за приймарний фокус. [2:34:21, 2:34:23]: In order to at least level the tax burden. [2:34:24, 2:34:31]: The council has approved nine separate development proposals within City Council of District Four. [2:34:32, 2:34:36]: Nine within city council district four. [2:34:36, 2:34:38]: All not [2:34:38, 2:34:40]: Ninety nine percent of them. [2:34:40, 2:34:43]: А outside of the downtown area. [2:34:44, 2:34:45]: So we're gonna focus [2:34:46, 2:34:47]: On revitalizing [2:34:47, 2:34:49]: The downtown area [2:34:50, 2:34:52]: Stay away from approving proposals. [2:34:53, 2:34:54]: For Davis Road. [2:34:54, 2:34:55]: Valley Hill Road. [2:34:55, 2:34:57]: In state route forty two. [2:34:58, 2:35:00]: Focus on the downtown area. [2:35:00, 2:35:02]: Because you are impacting [2:35:03, 2:35:06]: Нас концентрати арена. [2:35:07, 2:35:08]: Um [2:35:08, 2:35:13]: Алокайте фонди то ensure we have the infrastructure in place. [2:35:14, 2:35:15]: A knee for you all. [2:35:16, 2:35:17]: To consider [2:35:18, 2:35:22]: Approving smart growth development. [2:35:23, 2:35:25]: And consider allowing [2:35:25, 2:35:28]: The planning and zoning department to do their job. [2:35:29, 2:35:35]: without you all interfering behind the scenes. That's all, sir. Thank you. Mr. Alexander, please. [2:35:36, 2:35:56]: Uh I'm sorry. Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Thank you, Mayor and Council, uh, for this. I think what needs to be brought to the attention is the facts. Okay. When the when the council decided to move forward with the amphitheater, we allocated three million dollars in infrastructure improvement. [2:35:56, 2:36:16]: It's airsparent for you to see. Everybody uses the new turn lane on East Atlanta Road. We tried to get that turn lane installed for 20 years and didn't have the money to do it with. But because the voters have voted for SPLOS and T SPLOSS, slowly but surely, you all drive in Henry County just like I do every single day. [2:36:16, 2:36:16]: Good day. [2:36:17, 2:36:19]: Every last one of these roads need to be widened. [2:36:20, 2:36:23]: It's a matter of priority when we can get to which ones. [2:36:24, 2:36:33]: The news is good though. The money is finally starting to come in. How many years have we been trying to widen Rock Cory Road? Over twenty years. [2:36:34, 2:36:35]: The bridge was installed [2:36:35, 2:36:40]: probably fifteen years ago, in anticipation of their role being widened. [2:36:40, 2:37:00]: The good news is Rock Quarry Road widening. The construction bid is out right now. And the road will be widened starting this summer. It will be four lanes. We'll have a ten foot multi-use path along it, just like we got out here uh in front of City Hall. So some of you will be able to ride your bike, why ride your uh [2:37:00, 2:37:20]: um walk, run, or even ride your golf cart on it instead of had getting into a car to move to go where you want to go. The overall plan that the city has developed and the county has developed, uh, you know, voters approved the T-SPLOST, right? That means that eventually what's going to happen is several projects are going to happen. [2:37:20, 2:37:40]: The Rock Quarry Road widening is one of them. In my district, there's another road project going on right now with a brand new road that's gonna connect Hudson Bridge Road where the McDonald's is all the way down to Jonesboro Road. That's where the majority of the traffic is. Certainly there's a boatload of traffic that comes through. [2:37:40, 2:38:00]: Here, but as the council, we had decided to prioritize. But we spent$3 million here. And people ask that economic development question: it's the chicken and the egg. The success that we've had down at Jodoko Road, attracting sprouts, attracting Costco, and the development is because we built the housing. [2:38:00, 2:38:16]: First. The developer, the reason that there's no new construction in this area, and no new businesses flocking to this area, is that businesses on the economic development follow new construction homes. [2:38:16, 2:38:20]: That we the the downtown development authority did a study. [2:38:21, 2:38:35]: And many of you all will know because you drive and you live in this area. The average age of the housing in this downtown area is nineteen sixty-six. Many of y'all have moved into the homes and refurbished them. [2:38:36, 2:38:49]: But the that's the reason, because when people when these businesses see uh uh no new construction in the area, they're like there's no growth there. If I open my business, I need to see more customers coming in. [2:38:50, 2:38:55]: And the success that we've had at Jodeco is they see that we have [2:38:55, 2:38:57]: The residential there. [2:38:57, 2:39:17]: And with all of these developments, they're mixed-use developments. And why is Tim Hortons coming? Tim Hortons is becoming because they see the plan. The plan that they see is they see the amphitheater. They see the new construction finally starting on Davis Road. They finally see new construction in an area that has been dearthed. [2:39:17, 2:39:37]: Of down any type of real development. We have a new pizza shop that's getting ready to open downtown right next to Frozen Smoke and the other sports bar downtown. So people are recognizing the fact that we are growing and that we are adding these new residential units. But businesses [2:39:37, 2:39:57]: key in on new construction. And when you don't have any new construction, you don't attract businesses. That has been the circle around this area right here. We haven't been able to attract the businesses because we don't have new rooftops and people moving into the area. And that is what is driving what we have going on here. [2:39:57, 2:39:59]: Yeah. [2:39:59, 2:40:12]: But please understand the city and the council went and we had our retreat and at every retreat we embraced and we had the city code, the entire city code that was rewritten for the entire area. [2:40:13, 2:40:33]: To dictate where we go. And we understand that there's no cookie cutter. And when developers come in, we have to change those, but sometimes in order to fit where we're trying to go to make it match where we want to go. And certainly with this plan right here coming in, we know that those are going to be quality rooftops. [2:40:33, 2:40:53]: going to sell for$300,000 plus, which will actually raise some of the property values in the areas, because the property values have been depressed in this area, whereas other areas in the city, the property values have been actually rising. So has that been your experience, Mr. Anderson, in community development? [2:40:52, 2:40:55]: How long you been in community development? [2:40:55, 2:40:56]: Around thirty years. [2:40:56, 2:41:00]: Do the new businesses follow the rooftops as I've indicated? [2:41:00, 2:41:01]: Yes, sir, that's correct. [2:41:02, 2:41:16]: Okay, in terms of what we're doing here and when you devised this plan, is that part of your strategy in order to have new rooftops come in to generate the amount of rooftops that new businesses need in order to rebuild the downtown? [2:41:16, 2:41:19]: 'Cause basically the downtown Stockbridge area died. [2:41:20, 2:41:34]: It died a slow death when all the businesses moved out. And now we're trying to revert we're trying to revitalize it so that we have some things to do here and that we have uh new businesses coming in. Is that a part of the overall downtown plan? [2:41:34, 2:41:36]: Yes, sir, it it is. [2:41:36, 2:41:56]: So when uh the city manager brought this plan to your talk about what did he say to you when he brought the plan to you? It's part of the overall um s scheme to get more rooftops downtown, uh to increase um single family detach and um townhomes for uh to maybe attract some younger general younger [2:41:56, 2:42:02]: crowds. All this will help enhance the downtown area to draw new businesses downtown. [2:42:02, 2:42:22]: Right. And the last thing I'm going to close by saying is that the Downtown Development Authority, which I'm a member of, we they did a study. They hired Georgia Tech. And that's what government does. No matter if I want whatever I want to do, I got to pay somebody to tell me that we can do it. Even though I know that that turn lane needed to be out there on East Atlanta. [2:42:22, 2:42:23]: Yeah. [2:42:23, 2:42:29]: We had to pay somebody to tell us that and justify it. But y'all already knew it twenty years ago, right? [2:42:29, 2:42:34]: Now in this situation right here, certainly uh we [2:42:34, 2:42:35]: Put this out here. [2:42:36, 2:42:39]: so that everybody will understand where we're trying to go. [2:42:40, 2:42:41]: Right, Mr. Anderson? [2:42:41, 2:42:45]: Yes, sir. We're trying to increase the num the density downtown so we can attract new business. [2:42:45, 2:42:49]: Right. So understanding that and understanding um [2:42:50, 2:43:04]: that where we're trying to go is to increase quality. And what do we do before we develop these new neighborhoods? What do we do? We increase the building code standards. Tell about what the new building codes require versus what we had in the past. [2:43:04, 2:43:24]: Yeah, I recently updated MFR and townhome uh ordinance. It requires the ability to use uh all class A materials. Um uh they have to be three sided brick. This this the um the size that face the public has to be brick. Uh they can use hardy plank, stone, and um the overlap roof will have to be metal. [2:43:24, 2:43:42]: And um we increase we uh decreased the furniture to th to front yard setback to thirty feet. And we require certain types of amenities based on the number of um units associated with a development. If they bought if they brought to you a hundred percent vinyl home, what would you say? [2:43:42, 2:43:44]: Uh we would have to reject it. [2:43:44, 2:43:58]: Right,'cause we don't do that, right? Yes, sir. And that's one of the things that we've done in order to increase uh the overall standard of building. And everybody that builds has to build a sidewalk, right? Yes, a ten foot sidewalk along the fr the the frontage. [2:43:58, 2:44:17]: Absolutely. Well, I appreciate your thorough explanation and certainly uh the Tim Hortons coffee, right? That's a part of the the overall plan here that we're putting together in order to attract that's a new business that is decided to choose downtown because of the new development. Yeah. [2:44:17, 2:44:20]: 'Cause of the increasing density we were experiencing downtown. [2:44:20, 2:44:40]: Thank you. All right. And there have been several different the last six, eight months, uh no ma'am, you can't. It've been several uh uh the last six, eight months or we approved different type of developments in the downtown area to bring that the new youth and new uh single families or older adults into the into the community and and get people in and about the community itself. And extension the the expansion of [2:44:40, 2:45:00]: screen the widening and eventual expansion of Roccoy Road also deals with Piedmont Henry, which is our regional hospital, which is very which is growing. And people need to have a good access point to get to and from the hospital or that medical hub in and around Piedmont Henry to be see their doctors, things of this nature as well. So it'd be a great connection when we take it all the way to uh to O Canyons Road. [2:45:00, 2:45:12]: Um let me mention something else uh that I wanted to to talk to you about Mr. Anderson. Um the floodplain. What kind of flood we got a floodplain in that area that we gotta build around? What's can you explain that further? [2:45:13, 2:45:33]: um uh ease or utility easement also but the developer took all those things into into consideration when he d um developed the site plan so um the floodplain wouldn't be affected and plus city code prohibits you from being you have to be seventy five feet away from the floodplain. Okay. So floodplain it must be some streams of [2:45:33, 2:45:48]: going through that floodplain as well? Yes sir. We can't you can't bill from uh state law and city code, you can't bill near the uh the floodplain. All right. All right. Appreciate it. All right. No sir. Okay. All right. You have something else. [2:45:48, 2:45:57]: Yes, really quick, um, because it was mentioned, I'd like for the economic development director to speak to um [2:45:58, 2:46:01]: Процесн стратегії [2:46:01, 2:46:06]: attracting um new businesses and investors. Now Mr. Um [2:46:06, 2:46:12]: Councilman Alexander talked about the Georgia Tech study that the D D A [2:46:12, 2:46:15]: Um the downtown development authority board. [2:46:15, 2:46:19]: um had performed in regards to the downtown area. [2:46:19, 2:46:30]: That study suggests that um seventeen or was it nineteen hundred new homes? Seventeen seventeen hundred new rooftops is what we needed in the downtown area. [2:46:31, 2:46:32]: Well, Davis Road. [2:46:33, 2:46:34]: Valley Hill Road. [2:46:34, 2:46:36]: State Route forty two. [2:46:36, 2:46:38]: А на downtown area. [2:46:39, 2:46:41]: But my councilmates have approved [2:46:42, 2:46:43]: Nine new [2:46:43, 2:46:45]: Residential development. [2:46:45, 2:46:46]: Along [2:46:46, 2:46:48]: Those stretches of the road. [2:46:49, 2:47:01]: So I want them to focus on downtown, leave the outlying areas alone until we have a plan in place to address the infrastructure. [2:47:01, 2:47:03]: But I do want Mr [2:47:04, 2:47:11]: Sanders. Sanders to address the strategies um to attract businesses to our downtown. [2:47:11, 2:47:30]: Yes, ma'am. Thank you, Councilman Barber. Uh the strategy developed to develop downtown is very much in line with the things that have already been said. Uh I absolutely agree uh respectfully with the fact that and I'll give you an example of the businesses that we have along MLK Senior Heritage Trail. [2:47:30, 2:47:34]: uh in c on in conversations with them, they're struggling. [2:47:35, 2:47:44]: for customers, uh, some of them. And so it is my belief that if we build more residential downtown, whether that's apartments, [2:47:45, 2:47:48]: Whether that's single family attached or detached. [2:47:48, 2:48:08]: The idea I believe, I believe it's a good idea to build downtown, excuse me, um more residential near downtown because those businesses need those customers. I think there is business that these uh I think there is there are customers that these businesses generate from when uh the concerts are going. [2:48:08, 2:48:28]: On, but that's a certain number of months out of the year. And so one of my ideas is that we need housing, we need people walking around with their kids and strollers and people that will come and support these businesses 24-7, so to speak, and all year round. And if you talk to some of them like I have, they will they will tell you of [2:48:28, 2:48:31]: of their struggles with getting customers to come. [2:48:32, 2:48:37]: During the week, I I uh just to give an example, there's they they're not making any money. [2:48:38, 2:48:39]: during the daytime. [2:48:40, 2:49:00]: That customer base is not here. Some of them are making money after hours and on the weekends, but it is not enough to sustain them over the next five or ten years. And so we have to figure out a way to bring residential into downtown. One of the ways that we can do that is through the development of the three. [2:49:00, 2:49:20]: Acres immediately across the street when that mixed-use development comes, there is a residential, there's a rental component to it. Obviously, when it's built, those people will be looking for places to eat and dine lunchtime and after, during the week and on the weekend. So I believe that development will bring us both a commercial component as well as [2:49:20, 2:49:27]: well as a residential component, albeit it'll be a residential uh component to it. Um [2:49:30, 2:49:50]: I think there is a way that we can have this residential single family component exist. I think we need homeowners. We need people that are not just visiting downtown. I think we need people, and this is in order for the downtown area to thrive at some point. We need people who are stationary here in the downtown area. [2:49:50, 2:49:51]: So [2:49:52, 2:50:11]: Um I do think to some extent we need single family downtown. Does it need to create more runoff and and negative things uh here in your district, Councilman Barber? No. But I think we have an intelligent enough staff and I think you all are conscious enough so that we can work together to make this happen in a way that makes everybody happy. [2:50:14, 2:50:16]: Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. I am just um [2:50:18, 2:50:30]: I agree what what you said. Um I have concerns though, because I haven't heard much about any potential investments or investors um that are interested. [2:50:30, 2:50:40]: in our downtown or any other area. I am most concerned about our downtown area because we all support revitalizing the downtown. [2:50:41, 2:50:46]: I need for my councilmates to stop approving all the other developments outside of the downtown. [2:50:46, 2:50:50]: Focus on the downtown area if that's what we're gonna do. [2:50:50, 2:50:52]: Nine hundred and ninety eight. [2:50:52, 2:50:56]: Residential units have been approved on the [2:50:56, 2:50:59]: outer skirts of the downtown area. [2:51:00, 2:51:01]: Now [2:51:01, 2:51:03]: Now this is being presented to us. [2:51:04, 2:51:08]: I'm concerned that we're having more interest from residential developments. [2:51:09, 2:51:18]: than commercial developments. So you and your team, I'm sure you all are actively looking for commercial investors to come into the city. [2:51:19, 2:51:29]: I I would tell you that I've read portions of that of that very same plan that we're talking about. The focus is actually the opposite. It's more on commercial than it is residential. Residential is a component. [2:51:29, 2:51:49]: And even though it subscribes to saying, what is it, 1600, 1700, they all won't be in downtown. They're gonna have to be spread out through downtown. There's no way we can get that many units in downtown. And so we, Mr. Mr. Anderson and I regularly talk to uh this developer. I don't think they want to overwhelm downtown with 400 units. [2:51:49, 2:51:55]: Units. Uh I think the the number that comes to mind is around a hundred. [2:51:56, 2:52:16]: Okay, yeah. Uh about a hundred residential on the apartments. It will be more, but it will be mixed use intended for this property immediately across the street from City Hall. But again, uh I do subscribe to the notion that you gotta have you gotta have some some foot traffic. Uh if that's single family residence, I think that's [2:52:16, 2:52:28]: a good thing. If it's apartment dwellers, that will definitely bring a younger component into downtown, which is very much needed. And that study s dictates that. [2:52:31, 2:52:32]: Mr. Arizano, go ahead, please. [2:52:33, 2:52:53]: Yeah, no certainly that's a component of affordable housing as well, right? That is that is cool. Younger people and I know we don't want my kids living with us forever, but my granddaughter lives in an apartment that's very nice apartment that's very close because uh they can't afford a house right now at three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I appreciate it that it's a very nice name. [2:52:52, 2:53:12]: Neighborhood. But I do want to say this, and I'm going to close by saying this. If we had not built the amphitheater, we would not be having that$70 million STEM school being located in the downtown. The finest educational institution in Georgia will be located in downtown, right, Mayor? Absolutely. 73 million. [2:53:12, 2:53:32]: million dollar facility is coming to downtown doing what? Bringing a thousand students, staff, and everybody that will bring more people into downtown to support those businesses. So the indirect, indirect outcome of the amphitheater is you remember when we took that tour? [2:53:32, 2:53:40]: Of the amphitheater with the school board members. And by the end of that tour, their eyes were like they could see the STEM school over there. Exactly right. [2:53:41, 2:53:48]: But had we not done that, they might have gone elsewhere. Right. And we know that education is a challenge here in the city. [2:53:48, 2:53:49]: Because we seen [2:53:49, 2:54:09]: We have some schools that are doing a great job, but we have some that are not doing so great a job. But to have the best educational institution in the state right here in the downtown Stockbridge would be an amazing accomplishment for us. And let me just close by saying this: in my area, there's over 2,000 new units. [2:54:09, 2:54:27]: Coming out of the ground because of the development that we put off Jodico and that whole area coming along Patrick Henry and Eagles Landing. That provides over 50% of the revenue to the city that's feeding this area because this area is operating in a deficit. [2:54:28, 2:54:47]: Because you do not have the businesses located here. They're not paying the taxes. But the people over there in that area, they're paying because of the infrastructures in place and that they have the number of units and they're more accepting of it. Those two thousand units are attracting new businesses to the area. Thank you. [2:54:47, 2:54:49]: Ms. Gangloy, please. [2:54:49, 2:55:09]: Um a quick question. Well, something I looked up, you know, I'll look up the facts. So in twenty nineteen, Henry County actually went through ARC, Atlanta Region Commission, and approved the Rockcore extension. So that should answer that question. It was in 2019 that that happened. And it was for that purpose of submitting that information for [2:55:09, 2:55:22]: federal funding to help assist with the extension of the road. Now, before I was even on council, th I guess I wanna say in twenty thirteen there had always been talks and always been a plan to [2:55:22, 2:55:38]: do the extension of that Rock Core Road. This is just a brief history of that. At the time there was Commissioner Bruce Holmes, he reallocated funds, so it didn't take place at that moment. Now it has resurfaced, just to give you a little history and a background of what took place. [2:55:39, 2:55:40]: After that. [2:55:41, 2:55:56]: What we're talking about right now is we've went on numerous amounts of retreats. We hear from constituents day and night, night and day, who make up the majority of the constituents. [2:55:56, 2:56:05]: that they're tired of traveling from here to go to some whether it was an event or whether it's a restaurant or whatever the cases may be. [2:56:06, 2:56:26]: We've also said numerous amounts of times that certain places, me specifically, I love to give the example of Trader Joe's, which is one of the grocery stores that I love. And what happens is on there, they actually go based off of people want to know why we don't have certain uh a certain type of grocery store. They go based off of rooftops. [2:56:26, 2:56:30]: and population. So you have to take those things into consideration. [2:56:30, 2:56:31]: Thirdly [2:56:31, 2:56:35]: This mayor and council this has been nothing new for the past [2:56:36, 2:56:37]: Decade or two. [2:56:38, 2:56:53]: before we were here, have planned to develop their downtown. And within that downtown is higher density than it is on the other parts, which we have in our subdivisions, which have less their single family detached homes. [2:56:53, 2:57:13]: What we're trying to attract is young urban professionals, yuppies, and other senior living who wants that live, work, and play environment that has become the trend across America. Not just Georgia, but the trend across America. People don't want to drive anymore. They want to have everything. [2:57:13, 2:57:18]: Everything right next to them. They want certain things. This area [2:57:20, 2:57:33]: Even though it's not in the direct center of downtown, it's right where we're talking about expanding the map for our downtown development, or our downtown development in general, because it's [2:57:34, 2:57:54]: You know, not even a mile away. It's right here. And the reason being is because we have to expand for rooftops. We have a plan. And as part of our plan, in this high density, in the higher density areas with mixed-use development, every single development requires commercial components. [2:57:53, 2:57:54]: Yeah. [2:57:55, 2:57:59]: But you're not gonna get one without the other. [2:57:59, 2:58:01]: And we have to make that [2:58:01, 2:58:02]: Completely clear. [2:58:03, 2:58:06]: You have to have both, you have to have a mixture. [2:58:06, 2:58:19]: And we all agreed that that was what we wanted. We love to go somewhere else and see it. I think we were up in Sandy Springs or and um we went one year up to um [2:58:19, 2:58:21]: Avalon, we've been all over. [2:58:22, 2:58:27]: And each council member agreed they wanted that vision. [2:58:27, 2:58:30]: And you will hear stories from every single city. [2:58:30, 2:58:50]: We have and everybody, there's always someone that's gonna complain. I I totally understand. You can't make everybody happy. But the vision of the council before us, the vision of this council, or at least the majority, I can only speak for myself, but I I was there to witness that the major the vision of the council and the prior council. [2:58:50, 2:59:10]: Councils were to make this a live, work, and play environment. In fact, it is part of our goals, it's part of our mission statement. So I just wanted to say that now, Mayor, I I would hope that we can move on from this agenda item. Yeah, well we can. I just one other thing I like to I'd like to say actually is this is this is our fourth full season uh starting up on May 3rd for the amphitheater. [2:59:10, 2:59:30]: August of this year, this summer, a twenty two point four five million dollar amphitheater would be totally paid off. And what that means is that that gives us opportunity to now focus on our next major project because we no longer have that monthly bill for the amphitheater because it'd be paid off. And then of course we've got to maintain it like anything else you have to do. [2:59:30, 2:59:50]: I think that's a great accomplishment. And whenever I mention that to someone or a group of people, they're fantastic. They're amazed by that that happened within our fourth full season. So that's a good thing to do, I would say. On that note, um we need to we need to move on. You're absolutely right. I have some conditions I need to read. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Uh staff has several conditions. Um number one, the um [2:59:50, 3:00:10]: Well, staff recommends approval with the following suggested conditions. The conceptual site plans to serve as the master plan for the proposed development in terms of numbers and types of residential units to be built, the site access and overall design of the project, thereby fulfilling the requirement for the PUD zoning of the property. [3:00:10, 3:00:30]: Condition number two, a more detailed site plan shall be developed once the city secures a developer for the project, and it shall be prepared in accordance with the requirements of the downtown village overlay district to aid in stimulating and preserving downtown stockbridge as follows. A maximum of 70 units shall be constructed, which will represent a density of 4.5. [3:00:30, 3:00:44]: The building setbacks should be a minimum of 14 feet from the curb for front yards, a minimum of 10 feet on the sides for single family detached and in units of townhomes or other attached residents, and a minimum of 25 feet for the rears. [3:00:45, 3:00:58]: Amenities, the developers shall consider adding a dowel park, a walking trail, a playground, and or a picnic barbecue area. An enclosed dumpster dumpster shall be provided rather than individual trash can units. [3:00:58, 3:01:10]: Internal sidewalks shall be located on both sides of the streets and they shall be at least eight feet wide in the front yards of residences, including a six foot wide sided landscape buffer between the street and the sidewalk. [3:01:11, 3:01:31]: Parking spaces a significant number sufficient number of parking spaces shall be provided in relation to the number of bedrooms per residential unit, according to the UDC, as well as for common area guest parking. Parking lots shall have eight foot wide buffers adjacent to streets, eight foot wide islands between parking aisles, and four foot wide separation of the rock. [3:01:31, 3:01:33]: for every twelve parking spaces. [3:01:37, 3:01:57]: Okay, uh for parcel inconnect inconnectivity, provision shall be made for pedestrian access to adjacent commercial property uh parcels. The scale, the project scale shall be compatible with the scale of the surrounding developments. The building shall not exceed four stories or fifty-five feet. Building facade styles and colors. [3:01:57, 3:02:17]: The building facade shall be compatible in style and color with the facades of the surrounding buildings. The buildings shall be faced on three shall be faced on three sides with 100% brick, and on the front side shall be faced with 50% brick, stone, or stucco. All residential units which face or can be seen from North Hemra Bullet. [3:02:17, 3:02:23]: [10945.0, 10965.0]: Uh external considerations. The developer disregards to utility. Developers shall comply with all requirements of the City of Stockbridge Public Works Department in providing sufficient water and sewer facilities to serve the proposed development. And these facilities shall be located underground. Site security, whether or not the community is gated for lock camp. [3:02:45, 3:02:53]: Cameras shall be provided at all site accesses. Easements. No encroachments or other actions shall disturb the Georgia Power Company easement to the east. [3:02:54, 3:03:14]: Property maintenance an HOA or town home associ or or town home association shall be established or a property management company shall be secured to maintain all common areas at the site. That's it. Outstanding. Okay. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. So um in terms of this here, are there any provisions to have some new [3:03:14, 3:03:15]: We're entering. [3:03:16, 3:03:36]: I don't I'm not exactly sure if they have enough room to do that. Uh but I could when they when we get a uh developer I can I can bring that up. Yeah. Yeah, let's let's just have a discussion on having at least some units be rear injury um uh in the plane. Okay. [3:03:35, 3:03:37]: Much more track right in those. [3:03:38, 3:03:58]: Sorry, I don't have my mic on. It's a much more attractive unit because you can have a front porch on it. You can also have, you know, you still have the same setbacks, but certainly you would uh certain you would have a 30-foot setback inclusive of that. But also what we found out, and I think you and I have talked about this too, in terms of what we did at other [3:03:58, 3:04:18]: Developments, the 24-foot wide townhome, it leads to a smaller townhome. Instead of having a 24-foot wide town home, suggesting that 26-foot wide townhomes would lead us to a wider, bigger townhome that would be sent, that would be as nice. [3:04:18, 3:04:38]: Square feet, eighteen hundred and above square feet. The target number would be two thousand to twenty four hundred, where there would be livable single family units versus having the twenty-four-foot town home, which generates a smaller unit. Okay. All right. Okay. Part of the conditions. All right. [3:04:38, 3:04:57]: And then s street lights. You uh you indicated the street lights. Yes, I mentioned light. Okay. Uh we got flock cameras on there. Historic style street lamps shall be installed on the site. Okay, we got that on there. Okay, all right. Uh in that case I would go ahead and make [3:04:58, 3:04:58]: What [3:05:00, 3:05:01]: Yeah. [3:05:15, 3:05:15]: Which one? [3:05:19, 3:05:20]: Okay. [3:05:20, 3:05:30]: Well the Planning Commission, um uh Madam City Clerk just reminded me that the Planning Commission uh wanted to be from consider to shale for these recommendations. [3:05:31, 3:05:32]: Yeah, yeah. [3:05:32, 3:05:40]: The planning commission, they wanted the conditions to be instead of saying consider, they wanted the recommendations to read shall. I agree. [3:05:41, 3:06:01]: Certainly I don't have a problem with uh Shell in in that instance because we wanted to be this is going to be our model neighborhood. It would be of approved our model neighborhood uh for downtown. And these uh we want to uh get it right. I certainly want to make sure that um that once the correct [3:06:01, 3:06:21]: Russell Drive, Chrissa Drive is uh that that that spot is reserved so that it can actually contact the residents, can be able to get out, get on the new Rock Cory Road extension versus having to uh they'll have another way in and another way out, uh, and it will allow them not to have to come through. [3:06:20, 3:06:26]: It will allow them not to have to come through North Lee Street. Okay. When the road is built. [3:06:28, 3:06:45]: So's good. We got shell. Everybody's agreeable to that. And uh so based on staff recommendation and considerations, all of those um conditions along with the street lights, uh flock cameras being installed, I make a motion to approve. [3:06:45, 3:06:58]: Stand by one second, please. Please reduce the amount of units. Okay, we the amount of townhome units in this development. I know um you proposed forty two townhomes. You keep looking at Councilman Alexander. [3:06:59, 3:07:07]: You please reduce I'm talking to my councilmates. Oh please reduce the amount of townhome units in this development. [3:07:08, 3:07:10]: The couple that you saw just leave. [3:07:11, 3:07:20]: They're one couple that lives on Carissa Drive. This development directly impacts every single one of those people that have come here today. [3:07:21, 3:07:26]: Please consider reducing the amount of units. Don't just sit here and be quiet. [3:07:26, 3:07:28]: Don't do that. [3:07:28, 3:07:29]: Make a difference. [3:07:30, 3:07:32]: Because you all are impacting these people. [3:07:33, 3:07:35]: I am not going to support this because. [3:07:35, 3:07:36]: Um [3:07:36, 3:07:39]: I believe we need to build the infrastructure first. [3:07:39, 3:07:41]: That's what you call smart growth. [3:07:41, 3:07:46]: Considering that this is a city initiated rezoning [3:07:46, 3:07:50]: The city can take the approach of smart growth. [3:07:50, 3:07:51]: And [3:07:51, 3:07:59]: Encouraging our planning and zoning department to do what they've been hired to do. And to zone. [3:08:00, 3:08:04]: This project was designed with smart growth and new urbanism concepts in my [3:08:05, 3:08:15]: Certainly I I I think that it's an excellent plan and the staff has done their due diligence. So my motion is to move is to move forward and approve the developments. All right, is there a second motion? [3:08:16, 3:08:33]: A second. It's twenty five single family and forty two home townhomes, correct? Yes, but once they uh reconfigure it to take in currently the roadway is six the roadway on the site plan is sixty feet. When they take into consideration for the uh Rock Quarry Road extension, they'll need a hundred and twenty feet. So we'll they'll lose some units anyway. [3:08:33, 3:08:37]: Okay. They're gonna lose. Okay. [3:08:38, 3:08:58]: Yes, ignored that. So they'll lose they'll lose some units anyway once that once they reconfigure the site plan, uh to take uh that Rock Court Road extension into consideration. Certainly they're gonna have a HOA Yes, that's one of the conditions. To monitor the area, so certainly we don't want it to be too expensive with that few units. Yeah. [3:08:58, 3:09:06]: Mr. Ryan. Yes sir. So just for clarity, there was already statements by the developer, respective developer, that there would be an elaboration. [3:09:07, 3:09:27]: That there will be collaboration with the new Rock Court Road extension from Y Yes, sir. He told he stated that on w on this past Wednesday. Do we need to state that as well? Uh we could make that a condition that they would take in the Rockwell. Yeah, I mentioned I certainly mentioned that. Rock Court Road. Then that that is one of the conditions. [3:09:27, 3:09:27]: [11368.8, 11375.0]: I agree, sir. That's a condition. That needs to take preeminence. Yes. What we're doing has to supersede. [3:09:35, 3:09:55]: Yes, sir. Okay. Right. By having that access uh off you know, going straight through and moving those two buildings that I was described, it gives them that direct access. Ooh, look. And they need to have they don't need to go through a maze. They need to be able to go straight through there. Yeah, the city will lose um one of their commercial properties. Um, the one where uh a [3:09:55, 3:10:00]: I think Adele was looking at uh but we'll still keep the Tim Hortons. [3:10:00, 3:10:09]: Right. All right. So so so the motion's been made, been seconded. Miss uh Holiday, you have all these additional conditions, correct? [3:10:16, 3:10:19]: That's that's one of the staff conditions. I get it to you. Yes, I get it to you. [3:10:23, 3:10:23]: Yes. [3:10:32, 3:10:38]: It was a total of seventy two, so um I'm sorry. Let me go back and see look. Um [3:10:40, 3:10:42]: It's it's conditioned on on that, yeah. [3:10:50, 3:10:51]: I shouldn't know it, uh [3:10:56, 3:11:00]: Uh twenty five single family detached and forty two townhomes. [3:11:01, 3:11:10]: As you have described, the a the the paths already exist in there, but any coordination with Rock Quarry Road Extension would need a ten foot path. [3:11:10, 3:11:18]: Yes. Along the front. Yes. Yes. All right. Once again, the motion made the second and all the conditions have been covered. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [3:11:20, 3:11:22]: You're voting yes, sir? Okay, so th all foes? [3:11:23, 3:11:30]: I will oppose. Okay. And if I may, Mayor Ford, add a comment. Three, one, the motion passed. Go write it, please. [3:11:30, 3:11:34]: I am opposing because I support smart growth. [3:11:34, 3:11:54]: Smart growth would require that we address the infrastructure needs first, not just talk about it, but to actually allocate the needed funds for the project before we move forward with this. I am also opposing. [3:11:54, 3:11:55]: [11515.2, 11518.4]: This because the LOI [3:11:59, 3:12:02]: Had not been approved by the council or the URA. [3:12:04, 3:12:08]: I am also opposing this because I've been asking for the appraisals. [3:12:09, 3:12:12]: Of the properties that are owned by the city. [3:12:13, 3:12:14]: Since last year. [3:12:15, 3:12:17]: That's all. Thank you. [3:12:17, 3:12:30]: I want Mr. Anderson to make one clause. So that everybody understands we're following the law here. And the law does not allow us to deny a development based on traffic. [3:12:31, 3:12:50]: Which m we know that we we know that, but the law does not allow us to turn down the development based on traffic, schools or infrastructure. Those are the things that are incumbent upon the city, and the voters have voted again and again to approve SPLOSS and T SPLOSS in order to make these projects happen. [3:12:50, 3:13:10]: Understanding we we would like to widen every single road in Stockbridge. We don't have the money to do it with, and neither I know y'all don't want to jack up the taxes in order to do that. So what we're doing is we're prioritizing the projects that we can complete, but press trust and believe when T Splosh 2 comes up in uh [3:13:10, 3:13:30]: 2026, I certainly will recommend that this road project, uh Rock Quarry Road Extension, is one of the projects in T Splash 2, just like Rock Quarry Road was a splash project, T Splash project in uh T Splosh 1. So you'll finally start to see these road projects move along. Jonesboro Road. [3:13:30, 3:13:48]: Road will be widened. Fairview Road will be widened, right? Bill Gardner Parkway will be widened. Highway 20 is being widened right now. And very in district number four right now, a$50 million project is underway widening Highway 42 from Walmart. [3:13:48, 3:14:02]: to the I six seventy five exit two. It will include a ten foot sidewalk and street lights as well along as beautification. So we're working to try to dictate that to you to make things happen. So thank you. [3:14:02, 3:14:22]: Mr. Okay, thank you. Council pass. Anything else, sir? Uh no, sir. Okay, let's move on. And uh public hearing is ended and the vote has been taken. Now new business. Deannexation case DX two zero two four-zero five from manually subdivision phase five. Consideration of ordinance to de-annex from the corporate limits. We'll see you stop breaking up. [3:14:22, 3:14:42]: The request is made by the owners of eight parcels, which are located in land lot eight of District 12. The parcels would become part of the unincorporated Henry County. The city council previously approved the annexation cases DX-2024-01. DX-2020. [3:14:42, 3:15:02]: Dash two zero two four dash zero two DX dash two four two zero two four uh dash zero three and DX dash two zero two four dash zero four and manually subdivision six ten edgecom parcel zero one three a zero one zero zero four zero zero zero six twenty [3:15:02, 3:15:22]: ESCOM parcel number zero one three A zero one zero zero five zero zero zero six thirty ESCOM parcel number zero one three A zero one zero zero six zero zero zero uh six thirty five ESCOM parcel number zero one three A zero one. [3:15:22, 3:15:42]: 011000 640 SCOM partial number 013A01007000 645 ESCOM partial number 013A01010000 ESCOM three excuse me three fifty SCOM partial [3:15:42, 3:16:02]: Parcel 013A01 008000 and 655 Is Com parcel number 013A0 excuse me 013A01009000 and is presented by Mr. Anderson. That is phase five. [3:16:02, 3:16:02]: Yes, ma'am. [3:16:02, 3:16:08]: One second. Before we talk about this, I noticed that four, five, six [3:16:08, 3:16:09]: Right. [3:16:09, 3:16:10]: Mm-hmm. [3:16:10, 3:16:24]: Um are all the same thing. Why are they separate agenda items? They s they submitted them separately. They submitted in four, they submitted uh three up I mean four different application packages. I understand. [3:16:24, 3:16:44]: But although they submitted'em in separate application packages, which they have to do in a specific order, I guess, for c continuity. Exactly to make sure from one next to next neighbor to the next. So are these in that order? Yes, they're contiguous. And and if the these are contiguous and so there are s some numbers. Like I see six [3:16:44, 3:16:47]: six ten and I see six twenty but I don't see six fifteen. [3:16:47, 3:16:50]: So are there some homes missing? [3:16:51, 3:17:06]: There could there could pot potentially be some holes missing. But I'm saying Mary, what what did you you read the did you read all four or just uh no I've only read number four, just five. Yeah, it's they're in uh in the other stat. Yeah, I understand. But what I'm saying to you is edge comb [3:17:07, 3:17:17]: the all the street names are there. So it's six twenty and it's going by fives. So you got six ten, you don't have six fifteen. You have six twenty, thirty, thirty five, six forty. [3:17:17, 3:17:28]: Forty five, fifty, and fifty-five. So six fifteen is missing. If six fifteen, if there's a six fifteen or if it's not a part of any other [3:17:28, 3:17:47]: um de annexation that's been a part of this, that creates an island. So I'm trying to make sure that we check to make sure that there is contiguous. Yes, we I can show you, council member. Okay. Let's let's look at that first. And then after we look at it to make sure that we're not missing any of them. [3:17:48, 3:17:50]: Because we have them in order, we have [3:17:50, 3:17:54]: I would like to make a motion with Mayor and Council to amend this to incl to [3:17:54, 3:18:01]: Go by the order of what six four five six, but not make us have to go individually and vote per [3:18:01, 3:18:13]: agenda item. It makes no sense. And we just we just add them all up, even though they cat separate packets, I understand. But we agree that whatever order you say they need to be in contiguous. [3:18:13, 3:18:16]: We are going to combine this four, five, and six. [3:18:16, 3:18:36]: And seven and vote one time. Yes. I I I spoke to the mayor about that. Okay. Okay. I didn't speak about that. I've got to read them in the record first of all on this aspect. But uh and I would make sure that if I read them on a record we take one big vote. I want to make sure understand you're an attorney, but I want to make sure our attorney, Mr Washington, is in agreement with that and that makes good logical [3:18:36, 3:18:38]: [11920.2, 11925.2]: Ms. Washington? Yes. After everything is there, maybe that holding to do then [3:18:47, 3:19:07]: All right. Okay. All right, then I'll continue on with the next one then. Next one is deannexation case DX dash two zero two four-zero six for manually uh subdivision. Phase six, consideration of ordinance to de-annex from the corporate limits, the city of Stockbridge, two parcels within the manually subdivision. Representing phase five. [3:19:07, 3:19:27]: Which are listed below. The request was made by owners of the two parcels which are located in landlots 8 and 25 of District 12. The parcels would become part of unincorporated Henry County. City Council previously approved the annexation case of DX-2024-01. DX-2024-01. [3:19:27, 3:19:47]: DX-2024-03 DX dash two zero two four dash zero four for manually subdivision. 110 Jasper Drive parcel 013A01002000 and 120 Jasper Drive parcel number 0102. [3:19:47, 3:20:07]: 13A01003000. Once again, it's presented by Mr. Anderson, but we'll go on to the next one. Deannexation case DX-2024-07 from Manu Subdivision Phase 7. Consideration of ordinance to de-annex from the corporate limits of the city Stockbridge. [3:20:07, 3:20:27]: Three parcels within the manner subdivision representing phase seven, as listed below. The request was made by the owners of three parcels which is which are located in landlots eight, nine, twenty-four, and twenty-five of district twelve. The parcels would become part of unincorporated Henry County. The city council previously [3:20:27, 3:20:43]: approved D annexation cases DX-2024-01, DX-2024-02, DX dash two four, excuse me, two zero two four dash zero three, and DX dash two zero two four dash zero four from manually subdivision. [3:20:44, 3:21:04]: 315 Carift Drive, parcel number 013 A01024001, 170 Jasper Drive, parcel number 013 A0104000, and 175 Jasper Drive, parcel number 013 A0104500. [3:21:04, 3:21:05]: Zero. [3:21:06, 3:21:26]: Okay. Next is be the deannexation case of DX dash two zero two four-zero eight for the man of the subdivision phase eight. Consideration of the ordinance to de-annex the corporate uh from the corporate limits of the city of Stockbridge are three parcels with the man of the subdivision representing phase eight, which are listed below. [3:21:26, 3:21:46]: Was made by the owners of three parcels which are located in landlots eight and nine of District 12. The parcel would become part of unincorporated Henry County. The city council previously approved deannexation case DX-2024-01, DX-2024-02, DX-2024-03. [3:21:45, 3:22:05]: And DX dash 2024-04 Manally Subdivision. Uh 20 Devon Court parcel 013A01129000. 21 Devon Court parcel number 013A01131000. And 200 White Sand Bay Drive Parcel [3:22:05, 3:22:25]: Parcel number 013A00, excuse me, parcel number one zero one three A0112800. All right, that's all of them. Uh from uh 876 and 5 and um phase 5, phase 6 by 7, and phase 8 of manly uh subdivision. [3:22:25, 3:22:26]: for deannexation. [3:22:27, 3:22:38]: Yeah. There there are seventy three uh units in that subdivision. We previously approved thirty seven and tonight it's additional sixteen which will make fifty three. So there are twenty two. I mean twenty units left. [3:22:39, 3:22:47]: Okay. All right. So what you need is a is a further discussion andor motion in reference to accept all these at one shot. [3:22:47, 3:22:57]: Yes, sir. Yes. All right. Well Ms. Gantt do you want to have the honors with this? I would. Mayor, I would like to approve I would like to make a motion that we combine four, five, six [3:22:58, 3:23:17]: Fa phase phase phases I'm sorry. Phase sorry phase five. No, well deannexation. Yeah, deanx phase five. Okay, so phase phase five, six, seven and eight together and m as so long as it is contiguous that we approve this deannexation. [3:23:17, 3:23:26]: For mandatory subdivision. For mandatory subdivision. Is there a second to the motion? Mr Um Cowberry, s second at all further and give me approval of case you now decision. Thank you very much. [3:23:29, 3:23:49]: And then um public things, Mr. Anderson. Public works uh staff is requesting council approval for to move forward with the prime contractors dem demon demolition of the current uh forty-five uh times two eighty, forty five feet times two hundred and eighty feet maintenance shop, construct a new six feet by third three hundred times [3:23:49, 3:24:05]: uh sixteen feet pre engineered metal build uh metal building at the cost of one million seven hundred fifty eight dollars and five hundred and forty one million seven hundred fifty eight thousand five hundred and forty five dollars. This is phase one, the funding source will be Sploss six. Mr Aaron please. [3:24:05, 3:24:25]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. Public Works staff had a meeting with Mr. Malazzi and Ms. Hall to discuss what was the most expedient and cost-effective way to replace the maintenance shop, which is one of the projects that are done that is identified in SPLOS 6. So every day of the week, over 35 city [3:24:25, 3:24:28]: Mm-hmm. [3:24:28, 3:24:48]: The past couple of weeks, all these rainstorms, employees been dodging rain, so they're sitting in their cars because rain is coming in through the ceiling and also through the bay doors. They also they cannot eat their lunch in the building because of the break room substandard. Then the restrooms are also you have pictures of it in in your packet. [3:24:48, 3:25:00]: So we're just asking counsel if you allow us to move forward with replacing that building that has been cited by the fire marshal when he first got here. He conducted an inspection of it. [3:25:00, 3:25:16]: And like I said, we just want to move forward with getting our staff into a better environment and a place that is more conducive to what they're trying to accomplish and also allow us to have storage space for equipment and vehicles so they're out of the elements. [3:25:18, 3:25:21]: Okay, thank you for that. Uh council questions or and or a motion. [3:25:22, 3:25:25]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I move that we approve [3:25:25, 3:25:25]: Um [3:25:26, 3:25:28]: The public works staff the [3:25:28, 3:25:37]: I've moved that we approve to move forward with prime contractors demolition of the current four forty-five by two hundred eighty maintenance shop and con construction. [3:25:37, 3:25:47]: Of the new sixty by three hundred by sixteen pre engineer engineered metal building at a cost of one point seven five eight, five hundred and forty five dollars. [3:25:48, 3:25:55]: Just second that motion. Mayor Forbes. Mr. Br. Mayor Forbes. Yes, ma'am. I have a quick question. Mr. Malazi. [3:25:55, 3:26:05]: Did this go through the competitive bidding proper please? Did this go through the competitive bidding process? I see this is noted as a bid selection and award. [3:26:06, 3:26:06]: But I don't [3:26:07, 3:26:15]: Ms. Malazi. Well before My question is for Mr. Malasi. Mr. Aaron, let me ask him so we can vote, please, sir. [3:26:15, 3:26:16]: Yes it did. [3:26:16, 3:26:19]: Awesome. That's all I need. Thank you, sir. Okay. [3:26:19, 3:26:30]: Okay, there's no other further question, all in favor of the motion. I got a question. Collecting yet, so how does that working? [3:26:30, 3:26:32]: Mr. Melazi, back up here, please. [3:26:40, 3:27:00]: So the question splas six hasn't could be collected just yet. Initially it was I had to go to Henry County. And because we are told that you will be getting that in April. It's not the case, it's not April. We'll start correcting in April, May, but dispensary. [3:27:00, 3:27:12]: session will start in June. So start getting the first disbursement of um Splash six in June, early June. [3:27:13, 3:27:15]: So is it actually delayed then then? [3:27:16, 3:27:21]: It's the way it was communicated to us, nothing has delayed. So [3:27:21, 3:27:27]: instead of saying we'll start receiving, the county will start receiving in May. [3:27:27, 3:27:29]: Okay. So like now [3:27:29, 3:27:33]: We are getting what was corrected in February. [3:27:34, 3:27:52]: So there is a month, then the third month is when it's dispersed to us. We just received today for us plus five that was corrected in February. So county will start correcting in April, but us will receive it in June, early June. [3:27:52, 3:27:56]: So we can't y'all aren't trying to start demolition until we receive funds, correct, Mr. Aaron? [3:27:56, 3:28:06]: So here we discuss with them, we'll do the same. We have funds that we are giving them in anticipation of June when it comes into [3:28:06, 3:28:07]: Huh? [3:28:07, 3:28:08]: We have money. [3:28:09, 3:28:13]: that we are going to give them waiting for the coming of money in June. [3:28:14, 3:28:16]: Is there a time constraint, Mr. Aaron? [3:28:18, 3:28:38]: Yes, ma'am, with materials and tariffs and things like that. So when we had our meeting with Ms. Hall and Mr. Malazzi, what are the things we were I he was gonna set up a do to from a do from? There's money available currently in Splash projects that we'd use that money then when the revenues start coming in. [3:28:38, 3:28:44]: he's gonna repay that money. That was the most expedient way to move forward with this project. [3:28:46, 3:29:06]: That is to avoid the getting delaying or borrowing money from outside. So there will be no cost to us. Yeah, I just just like as again at the retreat, this is one of the priority projects, Ms. Hanno. It is. So one of the priority projects. I just wanted to beat that clarification because again, we want to make sure that [3:29:05, 3:29:25]: Again, that's so basically using existing splash funds that will be replenished from splot six when the money comes in. That's correct. All right. Once again, a motion be made in second. All favor motion, please indicate. Now it's a says okay, thank you very much, Council on the council. [3:29:25, 3:29:41]: You're welcome. Uh council consideration to approve task order number fifty-four with Carter and Sloop. Willow Springs forced main replacement in the amount of one hundred and eighty thousand nine hundred dollars. Uh the funding source will be splot five. Mr. Aaron, please. [3:29:41, 3:29:52]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. Uh since I've been here, we've had numerous issues with sewer spills and water leaks in the uh Willow Springs subdivision. Our city clerk can attest to that. [3:29:52, 3:30:12]: And one of the things we found is that for the water services, they use the polybutylene pipe that is no longer approved for construction. So that's why we're experiencing so many water leaks. So we're going to go in and replace the water mains and the sewer infrastructure in the Willow Springs subdivision to make it more reliable. [3:30:12, 3:30:20]: And dependable, and reduce the number of sewer spills and water leaks we're having in the subdivision. Money is available from SPLOS 5. [3:30:21, 3:30:27]: Okay. Questions counsel? If not, I need a motion to accept this. Let me just say this and I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna be very quickly. [3:30:28, 3:30:43]: This this is where concerns me. We keep spending more and more and more money on the water treatment plant. And we know that we have this aging infrastructure in the ground and I know I I just wanna see the fact that there's gonna be a [3:30:43, 3:30:44]: I mean [3:30:44, 3:30:57]: There's liter literally could be a ticking time bomb below the street. I know most of us have Henry County water. And I know I've said this to you too. Is that do we wanna be accountable for that ticking time bomb down the line? [3:30:57, 3:31:11]: Or do might we wanna do something else, but certainly we're gonna go ahead and authorize this repair. Cause again, these bills we spent how much money, ARPA money did we spend? Like how much ARPA money? It was six or seven million dollars? No. [3:31:11, 3:31:31]: A little over a million dollars. One of the projects was GDOT Wine42, which required us to relocate our water and sewer infrastructure that was in conflict with the project. We use ARPA funds for that. But we got to also be mindful whether the city of Stockbridge has this water and sewer infrastructure or Henry County, they're not going to take [3:31:31, 3:31:38]: on the responsibilities and not pass along the cost to City of Stockbridge residents. So the reason [3:31:39, 3:31:59]: I say we move forward with these is we're responsible for our own destiny and we control how we're gonna go about making these repairs that are much needed. A lot of this infrastructure has been in the ground for over 60 years and we have not done anything because a lot of times it's out of sight, out of mind. So we're making improvements on that, which is allowing [3:31:59, 3:32:19]: us we've got a spreadsheet. We'll collect over three about three million dollars in impact fees from all these townhome developments that are going going up being constructed. So we're replenishing funding as well as we're doing additional projects to ensure that our system is reliable and can meet the future needs of this city. And we [3:32:19, 3:32:37]: Whether it's Henry County, they're not gonna do it for free if they if it was theirs. They're gonna charge the money to these customers in stockbridge because it is gonna be their responsibility. But I think we're just making right on things that years past, money didn't go toward improving infrastructure, and that's what we're doing right now. [3:32:37, 3:32:40]: Well just again at some point [3:32:40, 3:33:00]: We are gonna have to do the same thing.'Cause again, if we're gonna be in the water business, then at certain points that's gonna have to be dealt with. And certainly there's a decision that this council is gonna have to make'cause there's a lot of potential exposure out there, uh it ris as as results of this. But certainly at this point we're gonna move [3:33:00, 3:33:01]: forward with this repair. [3:33:03, 3:33:10]: There's no more questions in the motion accept this, please. May the mayor may I make a motion that we approve. [3:33:11, 3:33:12]: Yeah is a mic on Sir? No. [3:33:13, 3:33:15]: How are you doing? Thank you, sir. [3:33:17, 3:33:37]: I make a motion that we approve the cost for uh consideration for number fifty four with Carden Sloop and Willow Springs for the force main replacement in the amount of one hundred and eighty thousand nine hundred dollars from SPLOSS five. Okay, Mr. Alexander second that from very Alessandra on fair please indicate. [3:33:37, 3:33:53]: Okay, it passed unanimously. Thank you, Council. And uh let's see here. Public works staff requesting council approval to purchase eleven trucks in amount of six hundred and twenty thousand seven hundred and twenty-five dollars. Funding sources plus six. Good, Mr. Aaron, please. [3:33:54, 3:33:54]: Uh [3:33:55, 3:33:58]: Mr. Barnes will be presenting this. Mr. Barnes, go ahead, sir. [3:33:59, 3:34:13]: Uh, good evening, Council. Uh Public Works is asking for um funding for the replaced eleven vehicles um for the amount of six hundred twenty thousand and from the funding source of SPLOS. [3:34:15, 3:34:15]: Okay. [3:34:16, 3:34:17]: [12857.4, 12874.7]: Vehicles, what are the script the light duty vehicles, heavy duty vehicles, what are? Um it it'd be some of both. It'd be light duty as well as heavy duty. Um of course we didn't go with uh enter enterprise releasing, but we are definitely in need of vehicles. You should have a um s [3:34:35, 3:34:55]: Uh sheet with the years of service that these vehicles have. Mm-hmm. Well, I I I'm I'm in support of it. I'm uh you know where I'm leading, which I I know where I'm leading. So I mean I mean I mean a light duty vehicle we might be able to look at. I know we have some concern about the tools being stolen, but if you're in a light duty vehicle [3:34:55, 3:35:09]: vehicle or meter reader or somebody. Nah. Might they be able to do an EV on that? I mean we we're definitely taking in consideration. Just as we did before, we had that conversation up here before. We were going back and forth on that. As well as we do need [3:35:09, 3:35:25]: to have the infrastructure not just at City Hall but at a other facility, as well as you see, with the maintenance shop. It'll be nice to have some stations there. Now if that was possible, then yeah, what you're saying as far as the E V vehicles, that would be something that we can definitely do. [3:35:26, 3:35:46]: Mr. Aaron, come back please. So in this new maintenance shops, did you include the cost of some charging stations? So yes, sir. This this phase, this first phase is for them to actually construct the building. We'll get the building then phase two, we'll have to build out for the administrative portion. [3:35:46, 3:36:06]: And also the site work on the property. We're gonna do some uh exterior storage. So the city will have some storage spaces for each department will have their own storage, whether it's city hall, events, community development, PD, we're gonna build the exterior storage and we're gonna put some EV stations there as well, cause everything. [3:36:06, 3:36:14]: was is enclosed in a fence and it's secure. So we don't have to worry about every day we gotta take tools off a truck to keep somebody from walking off with them. [3:36:15, 3:36:24]: Okay, thank you. I have one comment on. Go ahead, please. Um, so this too is in splot six. Is there an emergency or can we wait until we get our money? [3:36:25, 3:36:45]: We're in a situation right now, like I said, it's just being inefficient for us, like meter reading. When they go do rereads, because of the lack of vehicles, you got two and three people in one vehicle. When you could have them going there on separate vehicles, it'll make things more efficient. Because like I say, we when y'all allowed us to hire additional staff. [3:36:45, 3:36:52]: Half and they have no place to ride. They're riding in vans that probably fifteen, twenty years old. [3:36:52, 3:36:54]: So we're using everything we [3:36:54, 3:37:01]: repair things that we shouldn't have spent money on just to have a fleet available for staff to use and to get to work sites. [3:37:01, 3:37:02]: Okay. [3:37:04, 3:37:05]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead, Ms. Barber. [3:37:06, 3:37:12]: I'm curious to know, um, other than meter reading, we need eleven. [3:37:13, 3:37:19]: Eleven new trucks. But this is between the different departments. So this is public works, stormwater. [3:37:20, 3:37:28]: water and sewer. So this is not just one, you know, uh department in general, but in all these apartments, departments [3:37:29, 3:37:31]: All our vehicles and fleet is old. [3:37:31, 3:37:40]: So these this is like Mr. Aaron said, this has been neglected for a while, but you know, you have one vehicle, twelve years, nineteen years, seventeen years, twelve years. [3:37:41, 3:37:42]: And then twenty four years. [3:37:43, 3:37:44]: I see [3:37:44, 3:37:45]: One vehicle. [3:37:46, 3:38:06]: That is twenty-four years old. I see one vehicle that's nineteen years old. I see one vehicle that's seventeen years old. And I see four vehicles that's twelve years old. Yes. I see one vehicle that's eleven years old. I just [3:38:07, 3:38:12]: Why replace them all at the same time? Are they all still operable? [3:38:13, 3:38:19]: The maintenance cost e is exceeding the lifespan of the vehicle. Like these two Ford F [3:38:20, 3:38:30]: F one hundred fifties, both of'em need transmissions. So I don't see investing three plus thousand dollars to put transmissions in eight year old vehicles. It doesn't make [3:38:31, 3:38:51]: It's not feasible. It doesn't make good financial sense to do that. And also the older the vehicles get, the less r reliable they are. You're spending more money on maintenance and repairs. And these vehicles has far exceeded their useful life. It's just I'm just I'm a little concerned about [3:38:51, 3:38:59]: approving eleven new vehicles all at the same time. Okay, can you take half of them? [3:38:59, 3:39:02]: We know we've been doing that. We've been doing that over the years. [3:39:03, 3:39:20]: One vehicle here, two vehicles here. Right. And then I mean, but we can't keep up. You know saying we just annexed in more of the city. And I mean it's just the one vehicle here or two vehicle here is just not getting it. And then that's why we have the multiple vehicles that we have. [3:39:20, 3:39:21]: Over ten years. [3:39:22, 3:39:28]: Овітен плюс єс. Окей, со видализing аресов. [3:39:30, 3:39:31]: Just for me. Okay. [3:39:32, 3:39:39]: I just I'm concerned about approving eleven new vehicles all at one time. [3:39:39, 3:39:43]: Can you purchase six now? [3:39:43, 3:39:46]: And perhaps purchase another six? [3:39:46, 3:39:58]: Later in the year or next year because this just I know you've mentioned before that you wanted to get new vehicles for each staff member, but [3:39:58, 3:40:01]: We just can't we can't afford to do that. [3:40:01, 3:40:19]: No ma'am, it's no different than when the PD came and asked for eight vehicles. Okay. We bought eight vehicles. So we're talking about public works, not the police department. Two different types of services. But there's two there's two employees in each vehicle. This is not this is not for each individual employee. [3:40:20, 3:40:28]: You have multiple employees in one vehicle. Okay. So as he said, we got a van. You have a van, you have three people in a van. [3:40:28, 3:40:30]: Riding in the van, picking up later. [3:40:31, 3:40:34]: So most of these vehicles you will have two employees. [3:40:35, 3:40:38]: in one vehicle. This is not just for one individual employee. [3:40:40, 3:40:42]: It's not that I don't think it's needed. [3:40:42, 3:40:52]: It's just expensing this kind of money for eleven new vehicles all at one time is what I'm a little reluctant about. That's all. [3:40:53, 3:41:03]: Miss Ga, go ahead please. Well, um Mr M um Melazu wants to say something first, but I had a question. Uh I actually was a comment, but we've we've already [3:41:04, 3:41:09]: We've approved police cars and they haven't been in existence for three years. [3:41:09, 3:41:13]: Why would we shy away from our public works, which is extremely important? [3:41:14, 3:41:20]: Right. So I'm not gonna I'm not entertaining that. I just wanna hear what he has to say first and then we'll go from there. [3:41:20, 3:41:21]: So [3:41:21, 3:41:23]: What they're asking is the [3:41:25, 3:41:33]: what you already approved for them to buy vehicles that was to be through enterprise and that enterprise was scrapped out. [3:41:33, 3:41:36]: So this is something that you already approved. [3:41:36, 3:41:39]: And they were to buy any phases. [3:41:40, 3:41:51]: But you already approved it. So they are asking something that you already approved from enterprise, now it's getting into capital and capital was to be funded by Spruss. [3:41:52, 3:41:53]: Okay. Thank you. [3:41:53, 3:41:58]: And so you're saying that it's okay to do it approved. It's already approved. Yeah. So why are we doing it again? [3:41:59, 3:42:19]: No, because the you approved the enterprise so removed from enterprise is two point two point five million that you approved and out of that two point five million they are asking for six hundred. Okay. And uh then towards the end of the month PD will be coming to a [3:42:19, 3:42:21]: asky approval to buy money through [3:42:21, 3:42:24]: red speed that is so [3:42:24, 3:42:34]: You're approving them, you already approved. P D you also already approved, but the funding will be different now. Okay. Because Red Speed they already have money. PD they have money. [3:42:34, 3:42:52]: Okay. I just want to second that. I appreciate the work that y'all do. And I know that I'm on you a lot myself and you keep up with what's going on and I appreciate that how my district looks and the city's looking in those conditions. So certainly I support it. Thank you. [3:42:52, 3:43:12]: I make a motion. Okay. I make a motion to approve. I second. Okay from Alexander Gantt. All in favor, please indicate. Okay, so approved. Thank you very much. Unanimous decision, by the way, as well. All right. Um Yes, yes, sir. Council consideration for waterworks meteorology, L L C to replace um [3:43:12, 3:43:25]: Um five hundred AM AMI water meters that were not functioning properly in the amount of one hundred ninety four thousand six hundred eight dollars and for seventy five cents and funding sources plus five. Ms. Aaron, please. [3:43:25, 3:43:45]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. In 2017, the city went from manual read metering system to an automated meter readering system. And so each manufacturer has different meters. In the industry, you have like Neptune, Badger, Census, those are some of the top names, and we have Mueller. So e these meters are specific. [3:43:45, 3:44:05]: Specific to each system, they have their own software that reads these meters. So I couldn't, we couldn't buy badger meters and put them in this system, they wouldn't work. So Waterworks Metrology is the authorized dealer for meters in the state of Georgia and for the city of Stockbridge. We could go out and say, hey, make and supply, can we buy meters? [3:44:05, 3:44:25]: from you, they would go buy them from Waterworks and they'll mark them up and sell them to us. But we are buying them directly from the authorized vendor that Mueller authorized to sell the meters and the other equipment that goes along with it. This was an item we bought, if you remember, on I think May 30th of 2023. [3:44:25, 3:44:25]: We're going to be able to do that [3:44:26, 3:44:46]: It was on a consent agenda. We purchased 200 of these meters from Waterworks for the Monte Town home. So these meters are eight years old. As they start to age out, the battery is going to die in them. You're going to have to replace them if you still want to keep generating sufficient revenue. So we're just asking council to allow us to replace these meters that are not functional. [3:44:46, 3:44:53]: them properly so that our system is reliable and we get the revenue that we're building customers for. [3:44:55, 3:44:56]: You you might, sir. [3:44:57, 3:45:17]: What's the typical lifespan for these? In a in an ideal environment, they're typically like ten years. But that depends on the environment. Like some meters stay underwater more than others, some if you have a metal lid, so it's sending out the signal more frequent, trying to get through that. And so it shortens the lifespan of the of the meters. [3:45:17, 3:45:21]: So we've been working with Mueller and uh Waterbirds. Actually we have a [3:45:22, 3:45:42]: a biweekly call, how we discuss meters and the trends and to when we need to start replacing meters. So we're doing that. We're implementing that program. So over the years we'll you'll start seeing some meters coming up that are due for replacement because this system, like I said, is eight years old. So you're coming up on end of battery life a lot of these meters. [3:45:43, 3:45:43]: Okay. [3:45:44, 3:45:57]: Dave none for questions, sending a motion to approve. So moved. Is there a second? Second. Okay, from Ms. Gantt to Mr. Barron. I didn't want to just add one comment. This is just for the record. I did confirm with Mr. Malazi. [3:45:57, 3:46:03]: Um and the purchasing manager that this is a sole source supplier. [3:46:03, 3:46:10]: I wanted to make that for the record. Thank you, sir. No problem. All favor. Motion please indicate. All posed. Okay. [3:46:12, 3:46:28]: I approve. You approve. Okay. Four zero. Unanimous decision. All right. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Uh Ms. Gantt, you're up next. You one thirty eight beautification you mentioned about uh Falcon Design, I believe it is. Mr. Aaron, if you don't mind, the one thirty eight beautification, please. [3:46:29, 3:46:41]: Um, I'll let Mr. Aaron kind of describe what would need to take place. But in that area it's i it's not an eyesore, but there's a lot of traffic. There's no really beautification in the area particularly. [3:46:41, 3:46:46]: And I'm asking for the support of mayor council to allow Falcon des design. [3:46:46, 3:46:48]: to um [3:46:49, 3:46:50]: Maybe [3:46:50, 3:46:57]: do a little research, bring back some information on what we could do with that area particularly. Mr. Aaron, if you don't mind explaining. [3:46:58, 3:47:18]: Yes, Councilwoman Gantt. What I would suggest is we have FAF Falcon give us a task order to develop a beautification plan for Highway 138, as we are aware. That is a state road, and GDOT would have to approve the removal of the current uh beautification that's there and allow us to replace that with something that's more palatable. [3:47:18, 3:47:20]: [13640.9, 13648.5]: uh eye catching than what's currently there. And so Falcon would prepare a task order and then when we start budgeting [3:47:28, 3:47:39]: this year they can give us a a cost estimate for the project, then we can just budget those funds to say, well, we're gonna spend this amount for the beautification on Highway 138. [3:47:40, 3:47:55]: Okay. No any questions, concerns? If not any motion except this uh ta this uh this task order uh that we want to give to uh or have uh Falcon Design due. So moved. Is there a second? Sir Ms. Gantt okay from Ms. Gantt to Ms. Alexander. [3:47:56, 3:48:00]: Is there a a limit, a dollar amount not to exceed? [3:48:01, 3:48:16]: So what I would recommend d they will do the task order, they will do the design and they'll come back with a estimated cost. And so we'll present that to Mayor and Council and you can set a cost or whatever when we have our budget retreat. [3:48:17, 3:48:22]: to discuss this how much you want to spend for the beautification project. Yeah. At that time. [3:48:22, 3:48:28]: So just for this task order, is there a dollar amount that you can recommend that we not to not exceed? [3:48:29, 3:48:37]: I won't know until they present it to her. So if it exceeds the city manager's signing authority, it'll come before you for a vote. [3:48:37, 3:48:38]: Okay, thank you, sir. [3:48:39, 3:48:41]: If no other questions, all in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:48:42, 3:48:57]: Okay, you nancy Susan, thank you. Thank you. Okay, and Miss Gann, number thirteen would be you talked about the park and some type of games at that at the park that are needed uh this aspect as well. Um yes, so um uh I spoke with Carmen Reese and she is a constituent who's a part of the [3:48:58, 3:49:03]: Henry uh of the St Stockbridge Police um committee group [3:49:04, 3:49:05]: Uh she's a part of CPAC. [3:49:06, 3:49:26]: which is a our com community committee group um here for the city of stockbridge with the police hammer stockbridge police department and they are doing community projects and so her request was to allow to put she wants to put two cement tables, two two concrete tables. [3:49:26, 3:49:28]: Um what force uh [3:49:29, 3:49:31]: W with four seating a a seating for four. [3:49:33, 3:49:51]: Um and on those tables would be chess boards, you know, markings or checkered markings. Um and they're just donations and they're gonna be added to both of our parks, to two parks. So what what parks are you talking about? Clark Park and Memorial? Probably Clark and Mem I think it's Clark and Memorial. [3:49:52, 3:50:00]: Okay. And kinda how does this fit into I mean it's a nice idea, but how does it fit into our overall p uh part plan, I guess you may say. [3:50:00, 3:50:19]: So I was gonna ask Mr. Aaron how does that fit into our park plan, but it's uh we we just put a great little um playhouse in just recently at Clark Park this weekend that we had opportunity to but we wanna put what they want is two tables. It's four tables. [3:50:20, 3:50:22]: For four exceeding of four. [3:50:22, 3:50:28]: And they want the c you know, those concrete light tables with checkerboards and [3:50:29, 3:50:34]: or chess boards already painted on them. And they want to donate that donate that to the city. [3:50:36, 3:50:40]: Yeah, they're donated. They're donating those to the city. So the Clark Memorial and Gardner? [3:50:41, 3:50:46]: It's two parks. I don't know which parks was probably Clark Memorial, I would think. [3:50:47, 3:50:49]: Um one second. [3:50:51, 3:51:11]: Yeah, we'll take them at whatever parts, but um one second. I know Clark is one. Okay. And I don't know if it's Gartner. Probably Memorial, I betcha. Okay. I was thinking memorial. So what we've done is when requests have been made, we've we met with TSW, like with the little playhouse. [3:51:11, 3:51:31]: And we let them look at potential locations so it does not conflict with things that have been designed as part of the master plan, like in Clark with the pavilions and and the new restroom. So if you have a copy of the design or something or have some dimensions of the table, then I present it to them and say, hey, what's the [3:51:31, 3:51:36]: the best location for these items that do not conflict with master plan design. [3:51:36, 3:51:37]: Okay. [3:51:38, 3:51:46]: So you want a you want a motion on this to Yes, a motion to go forward with approving the um [3:51:47, 3:51:58]: donation of the tables with the checkerboards but also direct um staff to make sure that it is in compliance with our um [3:51:59, 3:52:09]: Master plan. Yes. I'll contact T SWM and let'em know. Thank you very much. [3:52:10, 3:52:26]: Okay, upcoming meetings and announcements. Uh council meetings will be held in the city council chambers, meeting dates, locations, and times of subject change. I'll contact City Hall offices at 770-389-7900 or visit the website at www.stopbridgega.org. [3:52:27, 3:52:47]: The U Council special call meeting is Tuesday, April 15th, 545 at City Hall and Levi Meeting Room, April, okay. Downtown Development Authority meetings third Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. in the Downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail. And once again, that's on the 15th as well. The Planning Commission meetings. [3:52:47, 3:53:07]: Meeting is third uh Thursday of each month at 6:30 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers at April 17th. City Council Work Session meeting is held on the last Tuesday of each month, City Hall Council Chambers April 29th. Join Councilman Thomas and Councilman Berry in partnership for the monthly Bingo Bash on Wednesday, April 16th from noon. [3:53:06, 3:53:20]: 10 a.m. to noon at Merrill Manor's Conference Center. 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But if you did not know, [3:56:41, 3:57:01]: We actually in the state of Georgia actually have a a uh two week delay because of Hurricane Helena. And even though everybody's been outrightly affected by Hurricane Helena, but you what you living in the state, you don't have to turn your person your your personal taxes in and to deadline is actually May first, not tomorrow. So if you were worried about scrambling and [3:57:01, 3:57:10]: to get it done tomorrow? Well, you can still do it tomorrow, but you got until May 1st. All right. On that note, we have a Zecko session, uh ladies and gentlemen, so I need a motion to go to the Zecch session, please. [3:57:11, 3:57:23]: Mayor move and go to the executive session for real estate personnel and legal. Thank you very much. There's a second emotion. Okay. Uh Mr. Alexander, all in favor, please indicate. Okay, as you now have the decision. We will be back, folks. [3:57:31, 3:57:32]: Mm-hmm. Alright. [3:57:34, 3:57:36]: Oh shit. [3:57:37, 3:57:57]: Okay. Is a second from Miss Alexander and Mr. Miss Barber. On fair presentate. Now any emotion to reconvene our council meeting, please. So moved. So moved from Mr. Barris. So Ms. Barber, second that on fair pleasate. Okay, we don't have anything to to devote at this time to the public in reference us. [3:57:57, 3:58:00]: So now I need a motion to end our meeting, please. [3:58:00, 3:58:09]: Okay, Miss m Ms. Barber, you said so moved, is there a second? Second. Second for Miss Gantt all in favor, please indicate. God bless you. Good night. We are adjourned. [3:58:11, 3:58:11]: Why not? [3:58:13, 3:58:16]: Why don't we go ahead and set that meeting up then?

--- title: Community Zoning Information Meeting date: 2025-04-09 source: 2025-04-09_Community_Zoning_Information_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:25, 0:00:28]: Test on here we go. Testing one, two, three. [0:00:37, 0:00:40]: Waiting for the IT person to let me know we're ready to start. [0:00:54, 0:00:55]: Oh okay. [0:01:03, 0:01:21]: You live in the neighborhood of the engineers or Oh, so you're together. Oh, okay. Well, I I don't want to be speaking we have online people watching. Even though it's not some people watching online. [0:02:14, 0:02:20]: I thought Jawan was gonna come back out and tell me that we're ready. Uh he said, Give me a couple of minutes is what he said. [0:02:21, 0:02:23]: Um not wanna mention just uh [0:02:24, 0:02:27]: Damnities, at least just amenities. [0:02:28, 0:02:31]: I think I got guilested, but you know, Oh you did? Okay. [0:02:32, 0:02:35]: They're gonna go into detail. Oh, okay. [0:02:45, 0:02:50]: Good evening ladies and gentlemen. This is the CZIM meeting for April ninth, twenty twenty five. [0:02:51, 0:02:54]: C Z I M as Community Zoning and Information Meeting. [0:02:54, 0:03:00]: And we have a few people here in the audience. I'm also speaking to our online audience. [0:03:04, 0:03:14]: So here's the agenda for tonight's meeting. This is the welcome, and then I'm going to discuss, provide an overview of the zoning process for those citizens who want to learn more about it. [0:03:15, 0:03:21]: Uh then we're going to discuss uh two zoning cases. I'm gonna provide a introduction to them. [0:03:21, 0:03:23]: And then we have a representative. [0:03:23, 0:03:27]: Of the applicant here to provide details about zoning cases. [0:03:27, 0:03:31]: And any other business we can discuss, the citizens will have a opportunity [0:03:31, 0:03:32]: Um [0:03:32, 0:03:43]: to ask questions or provide any comments. All of this start, well, usually a property owner or developer purchase a property or enters into real estate contract with the owner to purchase property. [0:03:44, 0:03:45]: Thinking about developing the site. [0:03:46, 0:03:49]: Prepares a site plan and contacts planning and zoning staff. [0:03:50, 0:03:54]: Uh to request a pre application meeting. This is where the staff members [0:03:54, 0:03:57]: uh learn about what the developer wants to do. [0:03:57, 0:03:59]: discusses appropriate regulations and [0:04:00, 0:04:03]: And um decides whether you know is this feasible or not? [0:04:03, 0:04:04]: And um [0:04:04, 0:04:09]: The then the applicant um prepares applications to submit to the city. [0:04:09, 0:04:13]: Uh, including a proposed site plan, survey of the property. [0:04:13, 0:04:15]: uh various legal documents, letter of intent. [0:04:16, 0:04:17]: And a water sewer letter. [0:04:18, 0:04:18]: Um [0:04:19, 0:04:33]: applicant is usually the property owner or the developer and often hires a agent such as a law firm to handle the application process. Um and that is that that is what has happened for these these cases tonight that we're going to discuss. [0:04:34, 0:04:36]: Oh I'm sorry, let me go to let me enlarge this here. [0:04:38, 0:04:39]: Slideshow. [0:04:43, 0:04:56]: Oh it's not showing everything. Okay. So with different types of um what we call zoning applications that uh we could receive. Um an annexation would be for [0:04:57, 0:04:58]: Clicked on. [0:04:59, 0:05:02]: Okay, here we go. I'm sorry, let's enlarge this. [0:05:02, 0:05:08]: Here you can see that better. Annexation would be for a property that's currently in unincorporated Henry County. [0:05:09, 0:05:11]: And the applicant wants to bring it into the city. [0:05:12, 0:05:13]: And that is a a process. [0:05:14, 0:05:15]: Then we have uh [0:05:16, 0:05:17]: We don't always have all of these. [0:05:18, 0:05:22]: applications for one property, but these are the m main ones that that could come in. [0:05:22, 0:05:26]: based on the situation for that property and what the developer wants to do. [0:05:26, 0:05:28]: Comprehensive plan amendment. [0:05:29, 0:05:40]: This is where now every property not only has a zoning district but also a future land use designation. And that it comes from the city's a 20-year comprehensive plan. [0:05:40, 0:05:53]: Um and if what the developer wants to do is in conflict with that, then uh the applicant needs to file comprehensive plan amendment so that the proposed use and zoning and density are are then [0:05:54, 0:05:56]: in line with the comprehensive plan. [0:05:56, 0:06:01]: Rezonings will changes the base zoning of the property to allow for the proposed types of uses. [0:06:02, 0:06:11]: Uh and that means however the property is currently zoned, you know, it allows certain uses then it if the rezoning is approved, then those uses would no longer be allowed. [0:06:12, 0:06:13]: Um okay. And then [0:06:14, 0:06:21]: Some properties also have an overlay district which has additional uh regulations. Uh the overlay district [0:06:21, 0:06:25]: uh zoning would not change with the rezoning request. [0:06:25, 0:06:35]: uh variance application sometimes we get those and those are usually for a request to change something specific about the site plan. Usually [0:06:35, 0:06:38]: uh a deviation from a set black setback requirement. [0:06:39, 0:06:41]: Uh special use permit. This is to allow [0:06:42, 0:06:42]: Uh [0:06:43, 0:06:48]: Applicant to use a property for a special purpose. Examples are churches, liquor stores, [0:06:48, 0:06:50]: personal care homes at gas stations. [0:06:50, 0:07:10]: Uh there are a few others. Zoning modifications when a developer wants to change something from what a city council uh action has previously been done for a property, uh such as using a completely different site plan, that would be major z major modification, or seeking relief from a required zoning condition. [0:07:10, 0:07:13]: Uh okay. [0:07:16, 0:07:25]: Now that's the community development department. So we conduct the pre-application meeting that I mentioned before with the city engineer, fire marshal, building official. [0:07:25, 0:07:30]: uh and the planners to discuss the regulations, whether the proposals um [0:07:31, 0:07:32]: would comply. [0:07:33, 0:07:36]: А ви процес инкомін аплікація. [0:07:36, 0:07:39]: Um we take steps to advertise. [0:07:39, 0:07:45]: uh the proposal, we advertise in a newspaper, we post a sign on a zoning sign on the property. [0:07:45, 0:07:46]: And also [0:07:46, 0:08:00]: Uh the the applicant sends out letters to all the property owners within five hundred feet. And anyone who lives within the neighborhood that's maybe how you find out about these if you received a letter of that type in the mail. [0:08:00, 0:08:02]: The staff prepares a so staff report. [0:08:03, 0:08:06]: assessing the merits of each case and whether it be [0:08:06, 0:08:08]: Comply with different zoning conditions. [0:08:09, 0:08:11]: And then a PowerPoint presentation. [0:08:11, 0:08:18]: And next week we're having a planning commission meeting. The staff will be presenting PowerPoint presentation for those cases. [0:08:21, 0:08:29]: Uh this is the CCIM meeting. This is a chance to hear an overview of the proposed cases. There's no n gonna be no action taken tonight. [0:08:30, 0:08:32]: Uh just a discussion. It's a learning [0:08:32, 0:08:34]: uh uh learning meeting. [0:08:34, 0:08:38]: And then the public planning commission meeting is a public hearing. [0:08:38, 0:08:41]: conducted by Stockbridge Planning Commission board members. [0:08:42, 0:08:43]: board members here. [0:08:43, 0:08:46]: The staff's presentations allow the applicant to speak. [0:08:46, 0:08:50]: Hold a public hearing for citizens to speak, ask questions. [0:08:50, 0:08:51]: And then they vote. [0:08:51, 0:08:54]: To approve, approve with conditions, deny or defer the case. [0:08:54, 0:08:59]: But they're their any action they take is still a recommendation to city council. [0:09:00, 0:09:02]: It is then the city council meeting following that. [0:09:02, 0:09:08]: where the final votes are taken and those those votes become law. [0:09:09, 0:09:15]: Okay. Um after any any zoning cases are approved, the developer then may [0:09:15, 0:09:21]: uh apply for different uh permits, land disturbance and building permits to clear the land and actually start construction. [0:09:22, 0:09:24]: If all requirements are met, permits are issued. [0:09:26, 0:09:32]: So tonight we have two zoning cases to discuss. Um I'm gonna provide a brief overview of them. [0:09:33, 0:09:49]: The applicants representatives are here and will uh provide details and citizens may ask any questions or make comments. All right, so the property to be discussed tonight is a parcel number O twenty nine oh one oh one one thousand one. [0:09:49, 0:09:55]: And it is located between North Henry Boulevard and Old Atlanta Road, south of Valley Hill Road. [0:09:55, 0:10:01]: Uh it's a proposed mixed use development with townhomes and office space. There's two cases involved. [0:10:01, 0:10:05]: Comprehensive Plan Amendment Case number CP twenty twenty five oh two. [0:10:06, 0:10:10]: And rezoning case number RZ twenty twenty five O three. [0:10:10, 0:10:28]: Okay, here is the aerial photo of the property. We have North Henry Boulevard here on the west of the property. To the east we have Old Atlanta Road, which actually is a dead end street. It dead ends right at the southeast corner of the property. [0:10:28, 0:10:29]: Hmm. [0:10:30, 0:10:30]: Okay. [0:10:31, 0:10:36]: Some basic facts about the property, the applicant developer templar development LLC. [0:10:36, 0:10:40]: The agent battle law uh PC um [0:10:41, 0:10:48]: Properties nine point nine oh acres approximately. I mentioned the streets. Valley Hill Road is to the north of this. [0:10:49, 0:10:55]: Uh right now the property is zone C three heavy commercial. It also lies within the PMU. [0:10:55, 0:10:58]: Parkway mixed use overlay district. [0:10:58, 0:10:59]: Mm. [0:10:59, 0:11:03]: The current future land use designation is low density mixed use. [0:11:04, 0:11:06]: Okay, now what are the purposes of these two cases? [0:11:07, 0:11:11]: Comprehensive plan amendment case number CP twenty twelve five O two. [0:11:12, 0:11:16]: The purpose is change the property's future land use designation from [0:11:16, 0:11:18]: Low density mixed use. [0:11:18, 0:11:20]: to high density use. What is the reason for that? [0:11:21, 0:11:24]: Proposed development would have a higher density than what is currently allowed. [0:11:25, 0:11:28]: The rezoning case number RZ twenty twenty five O three. [0:11:29, 0:11:34]: The purpose of that case is to rezone a property from C three heavy commercial. [0:11:34, 0:11:36]: And PMU. [0:11:36, 0:11:42]: to P U P U D, which is Plan Unit Development, and the PMU overlay district would stay the same. [0:11:42, 0:11:43]: The reason for it is [0:11:44, 0:11:48]: The proposed residential uses specifically town homes are proposed. [0:11:48, 0:11:55]: They are not allowed in commercial districts and the property zone commercial, so that needs to be changed. [0:11:56, 0:11:59]: Here is a zoning map of the property. You see the star. [0:11:59, 0:12:01]: Indicates the property. You got um [0:12:01, 0:12:02]: C three. [0:12:02, 0:12:05]: on the property to the north and to the south. [0:12:05, 0:12:07]: The pink area C two. [0:12:07, 0:12:10]: To the west, you have P U D [0:12:10, 0:12:11]: In green. [0:12:11, 0:12:15]: To the east, and then some some suburban residential in the yellow. [0:12:16, 0:12:22]: Okay, this is the overlay district map. This whole corridor is part of the overlay district. [0:12:23, 0:12:27]: Um future land use this whole area is low density mixed use. [0:12:27, 0:12:30]: Here is a survey of the property. [0:12:30, 0:12:37]: Um is is kind of small in detail, but North Henry Boulevard on the west. Here you see the cul-de-sac street. [0:12:37, 0:12:39]: Ending here, Old Atlanta Road. [0:12:40, 0:12:41]: Um [0:12:41, 0:12:56]: Some of this I meant there would be ninety-eight townhome lots and units built, as well as a small office building facing North Henry Boulevard, to be used by two or more tenants, including the HOA for the townhome development. [0:12:56, 0:12:59]: Main entrance would be from North Henry Boulevard. [0:13:00, 0:13:06]: secondary access from old Atlanta Road, but that would be for emergency vehicles only. [0:13:06, 0:13:10]: The amenities will include a walking trail, dog park, and a taut lot. [0:13:11, 0:13:29]: Now I have here the site plan. If anyone wants to see later a close-up, I have that uh saved separately. It can enlarge it, make it bigger uh to be seen. But in general, you see North Henry Boulevard here on the e on the west side, main entrance here, looparound street. Um [0:13:29, 0:13:37]: And we have the applicant here, representative here. We'll go into detail about the site plan. I'm just showing you a general layout of it. [0:13:38, 0:13:42]: Okay, and after tonight, what is gonna happen? The staff will prepare [0:13:42, 0:13:45]: Staff reports verdicting cases with [0:13:45, 0:13:46]: Recommendations. [0:13:47, 0:13:51]: Uh planning commission meeting will have be held next Thursday, April seventeenth. [0:13:51, 0:13:54]: City Council meeting Monday, May twelfth. [0:13:55, 0:14:04]: And if the cases are approved, the developer then may apply for permits. So now we will allow the applicant's representative to come up and speak. [0:14:12, 0:14:14]: Emailed uh Linda. [0:14:17, 0:14:18]: I emailed you the presentation. [0:14:21, 0:14:22]: Oh did you? [0:14:22, 0:14:23]: Bye. [0:14:24, 0:14:25]: I emailed it to you. [0:14:25, 0:14:26]: To me? Mm-hmm. [0:14:27, 0:14:29]: I did not see that. [0:14:29, 0:14:31]: I emailed it this afternoon. I have my um [0:14:31, 0:14:34]: Yeah, email me other things, but that I didn't see. [0:14:34, 0:14:36]: Yeah, I emailed you after that. [0:14:38, 0:14:41]: Okay, I don't see it. So it's gonna pull it up. It's not here. [0:14:42, 0:14:45]: I have I have my own computer as well, if you want me to put it on my computer. [0:14:46, 0:14:49]: Did you have it on a flash drive? No, I have it on the flash drive. [0:14:50, 0:14:52]: Can I send it to someone here? [0:14:52, 0:14:54]: Uh [0:14:54, 0:14:56]: Let's is where is Joan? [0:15:00, 0:15:02]: Joan, would you come to the front please? [0:15:07, 0:15:08]: Oh there you are. [0:15:09, 0:15:12]: Uh he's got his presentation on his phone. [0:15:57, 0:16:00]: While we have the the applicant's presentation uh loaded. [0:17:27, 0:17:47]: Good evening, everyone. My name is Jordan Battle. I'm the zoning paralegal for Battle Law and here on behalf of Templar Development Group for the North Henry Boulevard Project. As you were told, uh we are here for a land use amendment from low density mixed use to high density mix use. [0:17:47, 0:17:59]: used and we are also rezoning from C3 and PMU to PUD and PMU to allow for 107 for sale townhomes and a office building. [0:18:04, 0:18:13]: The property was recently annexed into the city of Stockbridge in its zone C three, as it was zone in unincorporated Henry County. [0:18:16, 0:18:30]: Uh the property is also located within the Parkway mixed use overlay district, which allows up to 45 units per acre. The applicant is seeking to develop 107 units at a density of 9.9 units per acre. [0:18:36, 0:18:52]: The current land use for the property is low density mixed use, which according to the city's comprehensive plan, is not compatible with the parkway mixed use district. Therefore, we are asking to amend the land use to high density mixed use, which is compatible. [0:18:54, 0:19:02]: And of course every slide that you're seeing, um the star um is just where the subject property is located. [0:19:05, 0:19:23]: The site is located south of Valley Hill Road and along North Henry Boulevard. The North Henry Boulevard Corridor in this area has not seen any new development in years. Um, so this proposed project will bring new homeowners and businesses into the area to z to support the redevelopment of the corridor. [0:19:27, 0:19:46]: Here's the site plan. There's 107 fee simple townhome units with a minimum of 1,296 square foot office space. And as you can see at the blue arrows here are the two points of access from North Henry Boulevard and Old Atlanta Road. [0:19:50, 0:20:03]: Uh if you zoom zoomed in a little bit closer so you could see the office building. Um the office space will be for small businesses that don't require a lot of parking. The units will be marketed to residents in the area. [0:20:03, 0:20:20]: The HOA will initially own the building and will not be allowed to occupy more than 50% of the office space if so desired. Otherwise, they will be able to rent out the entire building to tenants or even sell the building to a third party for office use. [0:20:24, 0:20:44]: Um, this is a little bit more about the town um home unit information. The minimum the minimum unit size will be fourteen hundred square feet. Um either be three to four bedrooms. Um the parking spaces per unit will be four, so that'll be two-car garage, a two-car garage and a two-car parking pad in the front. [0:20:45, 0:20:55]: The price point is from low to mid 300K. The amenities of course include the top lot, the dog park, and the mulched walking trail. [0:20:59, 0:21:07]: So here's where we can see kind of different spaces um within the site plan. If you look where can you see my mouse? [0:21:08, 0:21:28]: If you see that lower middle um slice of the site plan, um that's where the dog park will be and the top lot on the left-hand side. If you look at the top right image and you see that purple outline um kind of to the left of the stone, the storm water. [0:21:28, 0:21:37]: Water facility, that purple line going around the edge of the site plan is where the walking trail will be. [0:21:40, 0:21:45]: And these are just elevations um of what the town homes will look like. [0:21:46, 0:21:47]: So we have that one. [0:21:47, 0:21:52]: And we also have this. So of course you see the two car garage and [0:21:52, 0:21:57]: The two pad, uh the two parking lot pad in the front as well. [0:21:57, 0:21:59]: And that's the end of our presentation. [0:22:09, 0:22:11]: Okay, you know how it's [0:22:23, 0:22:25]: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Battle. [0:22:32, 0:22:38]: Now is the time for any c uh citizens' questions and comments. Do we have anyone here who would like to say anything? [0:22:42, 0:22:50]: You may come up to the front and state your name and your address. And you may also fill out a sheet on the clipboard if you would like. [0:22:57, 0:23:06]: Thank you, Miss Logan. My name is Yolanda Barber. I live at 197 Talon Place, Stockbridge proper. [0:23:07, 0:23:10]: I am the city council district representative. [0:23:10, 0:23:12]: Of city council district four. [0:23:13, 0:23:18]: For this particular proposal, I do um have a statement that I'd like to read. [0:23:18, 0:23:21]: But for the record, um [0:23:21, 0:23:23]: I am concerned. [0:23:24, 0:23:26]: I received a notice from a homeowner. [0:23:27, 0:23:28]: Um just yesterday. [0:23:28, 0:23:30]: In regards to a letter. [0:23:30, 0:23:31]: That [0:23:31, 0:23:33]: The attorney firm battle law. [0:23:34, 0:23:35]: Sent to the homeowners. [0:23:36, 0:23:37]: In this area. [0:23:38, 0:23:40]: This letter is dated april first, and [0:23:42, 0:23:46]: It has the community zoning and informational meeting. [0:23:46, 0:23:49]: As Wednesday, April second. [0:23:51, 0:23:54]: I am surprised um because I don't see. [0:23:55, 0:23:56]: Many homeowners here. [0:23:57, 0:24:00]: And it's because of the misinformation. [0:24:00, 0:24:01]: In this letter. [0:24:02, 0:24:04]: So I wanted to address that. [0:24:04, 0:24:05]: First [0:24:06, 0:24:07]: The second [0:24:08, 0:24:10]: thing I wanted to note. [0:24:10, 0:24:11]: Um [0:24:12, 0:24:12]: [1452.9, 1454.4]: I'll read a statement instead. [0:24:16, 0:24:22]: My name is Yolanda Barber. I reside at 197 Tallinn Place in Stockbridge, proper. [0:24:22, 0:24:23]: I am a homeowner. [0:24:24, 0:24:25]: In City Council District Four. [0:24:26, 0:24:30]: I am also the City Council District Representative of City Council District 4. [0:24:31, 0:24:37]: As the city council district representative for this particular area, I believe in smart growth. [0:24:37, 0:24:44]: Therefore, I want to explore master planning of the areas along State Route forty two. [0:24:44, 0:24:49]: North Henry Boulevard, Valley Hill Road, and Davis Road. [0:24:49, 0:24:54]: Which are the north east end of city council district four? [0:24:54, 0:24:56]: And the city limits. [0:24:57, 0:25:00]: These specific areas were annexed into the city and [0:25:01, 0:25:04]: Офішили in January twenty twenty three. [0:25:05, 0:25:16]: And are not included in any of our city's development plans, master plans, trail plans, all of which was told to residents when the city [0:25:16, 0:25:19]: approach them about annexation. [0:25:19, 0:25:23]: А вона деле он еврей да сити промість. [0:25:24, 0:25:30]: Our city cannot stop developers from submitting development applications and their proposals. [0:25:31, 0:25:32]: Nor should we. [0:25:33, 0:25:37]: What we would like to see happen is the pause. [0:25:37, 0:25:46]: The submittal and approval of all new proposals for this specific area of City Council District 4 that I represent. [0:25:46, 0:25:52]: Specifically the northeast area of our city along State Route forty two. [0:25:52, 0:25:54]: North Henry Boulevard. [0:25:54, 0:25:55]: Valley Hill Road. [0:25:56, 0:25:57]: Davis Road. [0:25:57, 0:25:59]: The area that I represent. [0:26:01, 0:26:02]: During our upcoming council meeting [0:26:03, 0:26:05]: I will be requesting to amend our agenda. [0:26:06, 0:26:07]: To have a public discussion. [0:26:08, 0:26:09]: Regarding an approval. [0:26:09, 0:26:12]: Of a six month moratorium only. [0:26:13, 0:26:15]: along these specific areas. [0:26:15, 0:26:16]: Davis Road. [0:26:17, 0:26:18]: Valley Hill Road. [0:26:18, 0:26:23]: and along the connecting state Route forty two and North Henry Boulevard. [0:26:23, 0:26:24]: It is my hope. [0:26:25, 0:26:33]: That through the approval of a six month moratorium, and to hire a firm to draft a master plan for this specific area. [0:26:34, 0:26:35]: I believe in smart growth. [0:26:36, 0:26:42]: That means planning for future residents that will one day call Stockbridge their home. [0:26:43, 0:26:51]: In order to ensure that our city resources has the bandwidth to provide quality services for new residents and our current residents. [0:26:51, 0:27:00]: We must ensure that we do all that we can to avoid putting a strain on our city's resources. That also includes our staff. [0:27:01, 0:27:09]: Currently, within City Council District 4, there are a total of 998 units that have already been approved. [0:27:10, 0:27:11]: That's four. [0:27:12, 0:27:17]: That's nine separate developments that the governing body has already approved. [0:27:19, 0:27:23]: In the last two years, with the exception of me, of course. [0:27:24, 0:27:27]: A lot of the governing body's focus has been [0:27:27, 0:27:30]: Он ревитalizing our downtown. [0:27:30, 0:27:33]: Which is also in city council district four. [0:27:33, 0:27:37]: I support revitalization of our downtown. [0:27:38, 0:27:39]: I have had many questions though. [0:27:40, 0:27:45]: А вона свера в аркомуні стримing. [0:27:46, 0:27:48]: Not just on Jodoko Road. [0:27:48, 0:27:50]: Not just on Eagles Landing Parkway. [0:27:51, 0:27:54]: Not just on Walt Stevens Road and others. [0:27:54, 0:28:00]: All stakeholders in our community deserve to be a part of a thriving community. [0:28:01, 0:28:13]: Nonetheless, my intentions today is to inform everyone here and publicly, as well as those who own businesses and homes, of my intentions for speaking today. [0:28:14, 0:28:15]: I thank you for this time. [0:28:26, 0:28:27]: Wait, sign something somewhere? [0:28:28, 0:28:30]: Or do you want me to do that afterwards? [0:28:32, 0:28:40]: Okay. Um I'd first I'd like to ask uh a couple of questions too. Um I forgot your name, sir. I'm sorry from the [0:28:42, 0:29:02]: Jordan. Um Jordan, I d I live on the other side, just right off of uh on Hillendale, just the next street over from there. My my question is uh I've lived here for over thirty years. Um and I've got a statement kind of in combination uh with the question. I I kind of feel like the city other than [0:29:02, 0:29:22]: my representative Yolanda has has been more beholden to developers than the local citizen. And uh when we had a development that was pr uh proposed along Valley Hill, she's the only one that objected. All the other councilmen, no one reclused themselves, even though they had ties with real estate. [0:29:22, 0:29:27]: Uh you know, they w they were saying things like, Oh, we're building things over on, you know, some other street. [0:29:28, 0:29:48]: And I go, well, yeah, but those streets have a medium. One of my arguments then was: why aren't you building things more along 42? Like the St. Augustine, which I think is a nice-looking development. But now that that's along 42, what you're proposing, and I'm on the other side of that, my concern is: do you own the property next? [0:29:48, 0:29:52]: Next to that, all the way up the Valley Hill. Or does does uh Templar? [0:29:53, 0:30:05]: To my knowledge, no. Oh only the subject property that I showed on the on the slides, that's the only uh project that they're actually uh redeveloping right now. [0:30:06, 0:30:15]: That nine acres, yeah. Because the nineteen acres behind me now is down to seventeen. So I talked to someone at the city today, uh uh Mr. Henderson. [0:30:16, 0:30:16]: Yeah. [0:30:16, 0:30:36]: And he's he said that that year development has nine, about nine acres a little more. And yeah, and that that other that was nineteen is now down to seventeen. So they must have sold two acres to Templar Group or something like that. So uh so I guess I'll have to find out who does own that because I'm trying [0:30:36, 0:30:40]: [1841.2, 1858.1]: between me and if somebody else comes in, I don't see how you're squeezing ninety-eight units into nine acres. I mean that's that's almost ten an acre. Uh but I mean that look your your pictures look nice, but uh and I didn't really see where the bus the business thing [0:30:58, 0:31:15]: On the proposal it sounds like there's business units and and uh home town homes, but it looked like the business unit was it's just one business center. Yeah. So just one building um devoted to business. [0:31:15, 0:31:25]: So either the HOA doesn't necessarily own it. They can operate within that building, but it's where it's advertised. [0:31:26, 0:31:28]: [1889.3, 1896.0]: So that looks smaller than essentially four or five townhomes though. So it's not really fourteen hundred. [0:31:37, 0:31:45]: So that's smaller than one townhome because you said the townhomes could be up to fourteen hundred square feet. The town homes, I believe on the slide we said [0:31:48, 0:32:06]: Okay. But so but the business it's it's made for small businesses. So it's not um like a law firm wouldn't typically go there. Probably like a a business with one or two employees or just meet their office space there. But it's not meant to be like a full blown um [0:32:06, 0:32:08]: business part per se. [0:32:08, 0:32:22]: It's more so advertised to the people that are living within the subdivision. If you have a small business, there is a space to be able to rent out and have your a like a small office space. [0:32:23, 0:32:35]: So if the town homes are twelve hundred to fourteen hundred square feet and they have three to four rooms potentially in them, that business center would not have more than three or four offices. [0:32:35, 0:32:43]: Correct. And be essentially smaller than or about the same size as one of the ninety-eight units. Correct. I'm sorry. [0:32:44, 0:32:44]: Yeah. [0:32:45, 0:32:55]: Is that right? Okay, but you don't know who owns that other property there. I don't but I know if you go on to Q public, um that's typically where you can find [0:32:55, 0:32:58]: You're the owner or owners of parsley. [0:33:00, 0:33:18]: Well that's that's what I was told earlier today, but I went to Q Public and it took me to some business that says it's for uh public government to use and I didn't see how I could get any farther. Maybe I can ask you afterwards'cause maybe I have the wrong website. But when I looked, I just got to something that was a subscription thing. [0:33:19, 0:33:20]: If it's uh [0:33:22, 0:33:42]: Hello? Oh yeah. If you go to Q Public, I believe it's Qpublic.net, um, the fastest way to uh get to the parcel that you're talking about, um you can use the parcel ID that that we're talking about tonight, um which is on the agenda, and you should be able to click on parcels to the left. [0:33:41, 0:33:48]: in right of that as well to be able to see who owns that parcel of land that you're talking about. [0:33:48, 0:34:08]: Okay, and part of this two phase thing about zoning is you're trying to get it changed if I'm understanding right, from a C three, is that correct, that's it's heavy industrial? C three is uh commercial use. Commercial use only. And you're trying to get it to residential. So it could be [0:34:08, 0:34:28]: So right now that next slot right now is commercial only. So if somebody wanted to develop that like you're developing it, or this the same company that you representing, Templar, wanted to, they would have to come back and say the same thing again, that we want that to be mixed use, not commercial only. [0:34:28, 0:34:48]: We are only working on a land use amendment and rezoning for the subject property that we're talking about tonight. So if somebody else has a parcel in that area, it wouldn't change the parcels around us. So yes, they would have to come back and actually go through the rezoning process. [0:34:48, 0:34:54]: for if they wanted to um do anything outside of the current zoning uses. [0:34:54, 0:35:14]: Yeah. So right now it's just commercial and if they were going to do what you were going to do, they'd have to come back and r and appeal for rez rezoning also. Correct. Um and also I just wanted to mention we are um in the process of setting up a community meeting um for the community members that live around the site. [0:35:14, 0:35:34]: subject property, um, so we can kind of get a little bit more feedback and understanding about how everyone feels about the project. So uh shortly um we'll be sending out notices soon probably um for a meeting before mayor and council. [0:35:34, 0:35:36]: Um to meet with the community. [0:35:36, 0:35:50]: Well that that is one of my other concerns because uh if I was not able to purchase a buffer, my question would be if you're putting ninety eight units or roughly ninety eight units, I think I got that right. [0:35:50, 0:35:52]: On that nine acres or a little over. [0:35:53, 0:35:55]: There's houses behind you right now. [0:35:56, 0:36:00]: So how close are those units getting to that those houses and [0:36:00, 0:36:15]: So down the road, if somebody did something similar behind my house, what kind of buffer am I going to have? Because you know, there's it looks like there's the equivalent of six individual homes behind [0:36:16, 0:36:24]: And you're putting in ninety-eight units behind those six homes. Of course, all ninety-eight units aren't gonna be next to those six homes, but [0:36:24, 0:36:31]: You know, they're gonna if you've got ninety eight and you've got t you there's gonna be ten at least or more along there. [0:36:31, 0:36:51]: If we are successful um in getting our applications approved, uh the subject property will be within the Did City requirements. Um, but I I really can't speak to what is what will happen outside of this property. [0:36:52, 0:37:05]: And what so what is the so there is a requirement already that you're having to adhere to if this is approved? What like w how much space between your development and the homes that are behind it? [0:37:06, 0:37:12]: Is there a requirement for that now or can you can you literally build up to the to the property edge? [0:37:18, 0:37:18]: No. [0:37:19, 0:37:32]: So to answer that question, um, so as far as the buffer requirements, it'll be at least twenty five feet. It'll be a twenty five foot buffer between your property and the subject property that they're they're wanting to rezone. [0:37:33, 0:37:53]: Twenty-five feet? Yes. Okay, so that's less than like I'm in phase one of my subdivision, and there is a requirement of fifty to sixty feet between the curb and my front door for that. So you're saying it could be half that distance. Somebody could build up half to that distance if the same thing carries. [0:37:53, 0:38:05]: carried over to behind mine. Where these units are gonna be, if it's approved, they can be within half the distance of my front yard to the behind the houses behind them. [0:38:05, 0:38:07]: Setbacks. There'll be setbacks to fix. Yeah. [0:38:08, 0:38:11]: Uh yeah. I I think that's thank you. No problem. [0:38:18, 0:38:21]: Any more questions or statements? [0:38:30, 0:38:32]: Thank you everyone for your comments. [0:38:34, 0:38:41]: So what happens after tonight? We have a planning commission meeting scheduled for next Thursday, April seventeenth. [0:38:41, 0:38:42]: Begins at six thirty. [0:38:43, 0:38:46]: The planning commission board members will be here and [0:38:46, 0:38:48]: Will hold a public hearing. [0:38:49, 0:38:51]: citizens will have an opportunity to speak again. [0:38:52, 0:38:54]: And the board members will take a vote. [0:38:55, 0:39:01]: And that will be a recommendation to City Council. City Council meeting then is on Monday, May twelfth, beginning at six o'clock. [0:39:02, 0:39:02]: And [0:39:03, 0:39:06]: The next time we have a C Z IM meeting. [0:39:06, 0:39:12]: for the next cycle of any new zoning applications coming in would be m Wednesday, May fourteenth. [0:39:13, 0:39:14]: Six o'clock. [0:39:15, 0:39:26]: All right. If anyone no one has ha has anything to speak, um this concludes tonight's C C IM meeting and wanna thank everyone for coming and listening. Thank you. [0:39:35, 0:39:38]: Just want to clarify 107. [0:39:39, 0:39:45]: You know, I know that that's part of the process, but yeah, I don't think it I don't think it changed.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2025-03-25 source: 2025-03-25_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:12]: Present. Councilmember Thomas. As the record reflect, Councilmember Thomas is not in attendance. Councilmember Berry. Present. Councilmember Barber. Present. Councilmember Alexander. [0:00:13, 0:00:32]: Mr. Ricker Reply, Councilmember Alexander is not in attendance. Mayor Ford, you have a call. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Um Mayor Pro Tem Gamp, please. Do you have an amendment? Mayor, yes. I have a motion to amend the agenda to add resolution number R two four dash one seven six three Enterprise Fleet Program. [0:00:32, 0:00:34]: Thank you. So the second to the motion. [0:00:34, 0:00:39]: Second. Is there okay, the second to most please in the five? Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. [0:00:40, 0:00:50]: What is that in reference to? It's the the the enterprise lo the the loan program that was presented to us that we're not going to take now we have to go back and resend that res that resolution. [0:00:51, 0:00:53]: Okay? So all in favor of the motion, please indicate? [0:00:54, 0:01:02]: Um now success. Thank you. Three three three folks. We'll put that at the end of old business, which will be number five at old business. [0:01:04, 0:01:13]: One second here. Now I need a motion for the uh to adopt the rest of the agenda, please. So moved. Okay. Okay. So moved from Miss Go, Miss Barber and Ms. Kent. All in favor, please indicate? [0:01:14, 0:01:34]: Ms. Ant, you in favor? Thank you very much. Okay. The draft minutes are from the council meeting on March 3rd. And review those. If there happen to be any changes or adjustments, please talk to the clerk about that. We'll take a chance to uh approve them at our next meeting. On that item, on that note, I should say we have the consent agenda, which talks about the council. [0:01:34, 0:01:51]: consideration to fill a vacancy and appoint a member of the Citywide Development Authority Board for a four-year term. And that is before you now this a Dr. Jacqueline um Humphries, D. Humphries, uh, for that. Okay. Uh is there a motion to accept that? [0:01:51, 0:01:54]: of of vacancy, or that individual to fill that vacancy. [0:01:57, 0:01:58]: Uh [0:02:05, 0:02:09]: This is for the development authority. C city wide development authority, right. [0:02:11, 0:02:12]: Uh old business. [0:02:13, 0:02:33]: Council consideration approved the contract amendment RFP request for proposal two zero one five zero eight dash zero two sanitation collection service contract with Ragnar Holdings Corporation slash GFL environmental formerly waste industries an amount of a million dollars uh which is also which is no additional cost. [0:02:33, 0:02:53]: The funding sources from Sanitation Department budget. Ms. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor. Previously, Mayor and Council had voted to close the transfer station as part of the park's master plan. And currently the city's waste is disposed at the transfer station. So this contract amendment allows GFL to take the waste. [0:02:53, 0:02:58]: ways directly to the landfill since the transfer station will no longer be in service. [0:02:58, 0:03:01]: And this contract amends it to reflect that. [0:03:03, 0:03:04]: Council, any questions for Mr. Aaron? [0:03:06, 0:03:09]: If not, I need a motion to accept this uh proposal. [0:03:09, 0:03:19]: Mayor, I move that we accept the proposal. Okay, is there a second? Second. Okay, from Mr. Ms. Gantt to Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. Fantastic. Now it's decision in that aspect. [0:03:19, 0:03:21]: Okay, so um [0:03:21, 0:03:33]: The city of Stockbridge Procurement Department solicited the procurement put out a bid for this and we received two bids. They opened on yesterday. One was from Limitless Concrete and Works Inc. [0:03:34, 0:03:40]: For two hundred and twelve thousand eight hundred and fifty dollars. The other was for Beto Group. [0:03:40, 0:03:47]: in the amount of three hundred and seventy one thousand eighteen dollars and seventy one cents. Uh procurement is [0:03:48, 0:03:56]: Uh approving for us to go with the lowest responsive bidder, which is Limitless Concrete and Works Inc, out of Noonan, Georgia. [0:03:56, 0:04:00]: in the amount of two hundred and twelve thousand eight hundred and fifty dollars. [0:04:01, 0:04:02]: Okay. [0:04:03, 0:04:18]: Uh how soon it once uh once approved, that's the case, how soon did would it get started? Well, I will call them tomorrow. I didn't want to touch bases with them until we knew that council was whether you were gonna approve it or not. I'll reach out to them tomorrow. Okay. Uh questions, council. [0:04:19, 0:04:23]: Uh Mayor, where is the funding coming from? Funding source? What's the funding source? [0:04:25, 0:04:26]: Mr. Frank. [0:04:27, 0:04:29]: Malazi. Malani. [0:04:33, 0:04:53]: The funding is coming from SP, but it's yet to come in October, uh in April. So we found money from general fund to for just this period of time. As soon as we start receiving next week, actually we see money from next week. I have an appointment with the uh the director of [0:04:53, 0:05:00]: of plus uh Henry County to see but you will start receiving next week from first of uh April. [0:05:01, 0:05:07]: Okay. Okay. Thank you. Do we have any sposphones left for parks in general?'Cause the amphitheaters are parked, correct? [0:05:11, 0:05:15]: I I wasn't aware that Amphitheater was part of the parks, but [0:05:16, 0:05:23]: Maybe I'll be m making up stuff I thought it was. I thought it was like a part to me, but maybe it's maybe it's meant to be that's for sure. [0:05:26, 0:05:35]: Uh yeah facility city facility I would imagine. City facilities, okay. All right. And just on maintenance. Maintenance. On the maintenance side of it. [0:05:36, 0:05:46]: Okay. All right. All right. And question this this was for the the materials that we the porous flexible surface that we discussed previously. Yes, sir. [0:05:48, 0:05:48]: Okay. [0:05:49, 0:05:59]: Ms. Barber, you have a question? Go ahead, please. So the um agenda item form, I don't see that as a part of this. I was looking for it only because [0:05:59, 0:06:01]: I just wanted to see the background. [0:06:01, 0:06:21]: Well, remember when we was at the retreat, I I informed you that we were placing this on the agenda that the bid would open on yesterday. So we had a spot just holding this so that we can uh present it today. So there was no agenda form. Gotcha. So is this the vendor that [0:06:21, 0:06:23]: Procurement is recommending. [0:06:23, 0:06:26]: Yes, ma'am, they're the lowest responsive pitter. [0:06:26, 0:06:27]: Okay. [0:06:28, 0:06:32]: Is there a motion? Um mayor, I move that we approve the [0:06:32, 0:06:34]: contract and the bid award. [0:06:34, 0:06:36]: The contract and the bill [0:06:36, 0:06:44]: Bid award. Bid award for the um s subject matter of the twenty five dash zero zero three amphitheater flexi pave project. [0:06:46, 0:06:47]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:06:47, 0:06:53]: Uh in the amount of two hundred and twelve thousand eight hundred and fifty dollars to the uh yeah. [0:06:53, 0:06:59]: To limitless concrete and works. Okay, you make a motion, Miss Barber, you second the motion. All favor, please indicate. [0:07:00, 0:07:18]: Okay, thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, sir. Thank you. And then what we have next we attitude agenda deals an enterprise fleet uh uh program and uh and we wanted to amend that resolute we did a resolution on that. So through conversation we want to I was have to um um Mr Washington [0:07:21, 0:07:25]: Yeah, yeah. I would imagine w we could come to the podium, please, sir. Okay. [0:07:31, 0:07:51]: Since you draft our resolutions, my my assumptions through the conversations that we we've had that uh this is not the it's considered the best program for us. We want to scrap this particular uh program since we've not officially signed any contract that I'm aware of on this aspect. And I don't know if Frank Fulam Malazi needs to be part of this conversation or not. Wanna come up, sir? Come on. [0:07:51, 0:07:58]: Just going to, if you all are going to just prescind the vote, somebody that's on the prevailing side just needs to make the motion, you can just prescind the vote. [0:07:58, 0:07:59]: All right. [0:08:00, 0:08:18]: I think it was I think it was a announcement season at the time. Right. So it can be anyone. Yeah. All right, fine. I need a motion to rescind this uh Mayor. Yes, sir. I make the motion that we rescind the previous vote for the uh enterprise um process project. Project with the enterprise. Okay. Is there a second to that? Second. Ms. McGarth. [0:08:19, 0:08:30]: Ms. Cass, second that you want a question? All in favor? Okay, thank you very much. So otherwise there's got to be some type of document that you would do, sir, that right to you, so we we rescinded the vote. [0:08:31, 0:08:51]: And so there's not been there's still there's not been a vote to approve, so it's it's done now. Okay. Thank you, sir. Correct. Appreciate it, gentlemen. All right, new business. Council consideration approved, Fetch Road Abandonment, Marketplace Storefronts, LLC. Located on the property of two two five zero Jolico Road to make uh their [0:08:51, 0:08:56]: property contiguous. Uh Mr. Yes, Mr Mayor. [0:08:56, 0:09:09]: Uh the Western Parallel connector is being constructed right now and once it's finished this portion of road will be obsolete. It will go nowhere, it will have no way to get in and out. So they're requesting that [0:09:09, 0:09:12]: The city abandoned this portion of roadway. [0:09:13, 0:09:17]: Okay. [0:09:18, 0:09:21]: Yeah, you have questions? Okay. One come forward, please. [0:09:24, 0:09:27]: Yes, uh state your name, please. State your name and address. [0:09:29, 0:09:38]: Good uh good evening. My name is uh Kathy Thomas. My address is two five zero five Harmon Park Court, Duluth, Georgia. Okay, thank you. Go ahead, please. [0:09:38, 0:09:45]: Um, hi, Miss Thomas. Can you tell me w um if we abandon this road, what's the um [0:09:47, 0:10:00]: What are your future plans for the road for that area? We did um I do have these time. We do we came before the board back in no December of 20 [0:10:01, 0:10:12]: in 2023 uh and the city council did approve uh this uh mixed use development and that's what these are the plans for the area. [0:10:14, 0:10:15]: Thank you. [0:10:15, 0:10:17]: A mixed use development? Yes. [0:10:19, 0:10:30]: And so that w the road, we're I don't I mean, can somebody give us a map to show us what we're abandon what exactly we would be abandoning? Yeah, he has that too. He's [0:10:31, 0:10:32]: We give them the mat. [0:10:32, 0:10:33]: And when we say abandon [0:10:34, 0:10:37]: Is it our property, Mr Deshes? [0:10:38, 0:10:58]: Aaron, Mr. Aaron? When that portion was annexed into the city, it became a city road. That portion, the other portion that was in Herring County, Henry County has already abandoned that portion. So now you're just gonna have a road bed similar to the situation we had previously, where it runs down the center of a piece of property and and it [0:10:58, 0:11:00]: It connects to nothing. [0:11:01, 0:11:11]: So this is this is the plat of the property. And right now this is the intersection at Jodico Road and Northwest Parallel. The Costco is on the north on the south side. [0:11:11, 0:11:13]: So the portion that's being abandoned is from here. [0:11:14, 0:11:15]: Back here. [0:11:15, 0:11:16]: This on this little [0:11:17, 0:11:21]: Piece right here. [0:11:21, 0:11:40]: I'm trying to figure out which road it is. Is it by Mount Olive? Is it by No, it's on the other side of the street. Other side. Okay. The other side of the street. Mm-hmm. It's on it's on the north side across from the Costco. Oh, across the street. Yeah. Yeah. Across Celtic Road. Is that in and this is the city limits of Stockbridge? Yes, ma'am. The mixed juices as well? Yes, ma'am. Okay. All right. [0:11:41, 0:11:42]: Ms. Barber, do you have a question? [0:11:43, 0:11:43]: Um [0:11:44, 0:11:49]: This map um that you provided to us, is the public able to see this? [0:11:49, 0:11:58]: So they'll know exactly what we're talking about. Yes. The area. Are you showing it on your screen? Oh oh oh is it on here? [0:11:59, 0:12:00]: Is it loaded on? [0:12:02, 0:12:04]: We have the application that I [0:12:08, 0:12:26]: I can say that the district representative did say that he's for this development and that um he wishes that we approve approve the abandonment. Okay. No, I didn't. [0:12:26, 0:12:30]: I'm gonna go to the Hammer County uh website. [0:12:31, 0:12:32]: Yeah, that's not an evil. [0:12:32, 0:12:34]: Yeah, go to county tax assessment. [0:12:34, 0:12:35]: Right. [0:12:48, 0:12:50]: Yeah, I'll search. [0:12:52, 0:12:56]: Here's the search market. [0:12:58, 0:13:02]: Type get a good type in marketplace storefronts there. [0:13:10, 0:13:12]: Once you got space and take the space out. [0:13:14, 0:13:18]: There it is, marketplace store from the final. Let's uh hit the map. [0:13:22, 0:13:23]: You zoom out. [0:13:25, 0:13:26]: There it is. [0:13:27, 0:13:40]: Okay. So it's directly across the street from Costco on the other side. Costco is here on this side right here. And uh this road right here has already been abandoned by the county. And the portion that we want to abandon is this portion right here. [0:13:40, 0:13:41]: Okay. [0:13:42, 0:14:02]: Right. And this mixed use development is in the city limits of Stockbridge, correct? Yes. Could you describe what it actually is going to take place, what type of development the s uh constituents can look forward to seeing since it's already been approved? Yes, it has been approved. It's a uh it's a multifamily as well as [0:14:02, 0:14:11]: Sorry. I'm sorry. It's um um multifamily as well as uh restaurants um on the on the west side of the [0:14:12, 0:14:23]: On the west side of the Northwest Parallel, we've designated a rooftop restaurant, retail on that side, and on the south side, I mean on the east side, it's going to be multifamily. [0:14:24, 0:14:24]: Okay. [0:14:25, 0:14:29]: with ten foot sidewalks, all of those things are detailed on that little site plan. [0:14:29, 0:14:30]: It's right here. [0:14:32, 0:14:51]: Yeah, this is this is the mixed use development that was reproved that was approved by the city. Okay. Yeah. We just can't read it, that's all. Oh I'm sorry. I mean I I I don't know who could read it, but I definitely couldn't read it. Um but I I get it. I um so it's a mixed use development. Is it [0:14:52, 0:15:01]: Single family and multifamily or just uh It's multi multifamily multifamily. Just multifamily. It's right on it's right on eighty five I'm right on seventy five South and Jonaco Road. [0:15:02, 0:15:03]: How many commercial spaces? [0:15:04, 0:15:08]: А да'снти и форти та закверфит комер окома. [0:15:09, 0:15:13]: Of retail. Yes. Okay. All right. Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [0:15:14, 0:15:23]: So I wanted to ask, um, and I know that you all are developing the area. I support the development, but I wanted to ask. [0:15:23, 0:15:29]: After the development, does the city retain ownership of that roadway? [0:15:30, 0:15:33]: When w when you abandon the road, the roadway is needed. [0:15:33, 0:15:53]: for the development to take place. Right. And when we originally uh the project started when it was really a presented to Planning and Zoning, the abandonment of the road and the Northwest parallel was already planned on coming in, and that's when the development where we work with Planning and Zoning to come up with this development to develop the the concept. [0:15:53, 0:15:54]: Okay. [0:15:54, 0:15:57]: Mister um if I can ask, Mr. Aaron. [0:15:59, 0:16:03]: So once this development is complete, the roads [0:16:03, 0:16:08]: Inside and outside of this development. Will the city? [0:16:09, 0:16:12]: Have to maintain ownership of it at that point. [0:16:13, 0:16:18]: No ma'am, this portion of road will go away. Okay. It'll be a part of this development. [0:16:19, 0:16:39]: 'Cause you got two parts of this property on both sid sides of this road. Okay. Thank you. Yes, folks. So so like for clarification, the the the Western Parallel Connector is the road that we're seeing going through here, correct? Yes. And so the commercial is on what we will see as the western side. [0:16:39, 0:16:39]: Right. [0:16:39, 0:16:51]: of the parallel connector and the residential is on the right side that's adjoining Jodico and I seventy five. Correct. Okay. That's just one perception and bearing for everybody listening and watching. [0:16:52, 0:16:53]: Any other questions? [0:16:54, 0:17:14]: Mr. Mayor, sir sorry, certainly. Thank you for sorry, I was just tardiness. I appreciate it. And uh certainly I do understand the abandonment is necessary to move forward with uh your project because uh with the realignment of the road, uh it certainly would put uh undue burden on [0:17:14, 0:17:34]: The project that you're trying to create. So the abandonment of this road would create uh a better overall development. And G Dot saw that when they decided to have the road be uh in the location that it is, because it needed to line up with uh [0:17:34, 0:17:40]: the Jodico side of development and uh understanding that I'll make a motion to approve. [0:17:41, 0:18:01]: Is there a second to the motion? I second. All right, all favor please. Fantastic. Congratulations. Thank you. You're welcome. Yes, ma'am. Okay. So that was the unanimous decision on that. Staff requesting council's approval for TSW to move forward with producing the design and bid documents for Clark Gardner Memorial Parks as well as the uh [0:18:00, 0:18:20]: Trail design that will link Clark Park with downtown Stockbridge, City Hall, the Amphitheater, and MLK Senior Heritage Trail, and ultimately connecting the other trail spurs and existing city greenways in future phases. This project is part of the park's master plan and the downtown trail project. The funding source is Splot 5 and [0:18:20, 0:18:27]: the bonds for the downtown trail. The cost for the professional services agreement,$775,000. [0:18:28, 0:18:48]: Presented by Mr. Aaron and Brian Bays. Thank you, sir. Yes, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Bays is not here tonight, but Mr. Dye is here uh representing TSW. As part of the Parkmaster plan, uh we had several charrettes and the plan was approved by Mayor and Council with different projects in each one of the parks. So now we're gonna [0:18:48, 0:19:08]: to move forward with actually doing some construction and projects at those parks. You'll have projects at Gardner Park, Clark Park, and Memorial Park. And so this is the planning process where we'll start designing those improvements and get the bid documents ready to bid out these these projects. [0:19:09, 0:19:13]: May Mayor. Okay, questions. Okay, so certainly this is [0:19:14, 0:19:34]: Monumental progress as far as moving forward with the um overall parks master plan, which is this, which the city did uh endeavor to put together the parks master plan and to move forward with um some projects within that. In this, however, I would like to add [0:19:34, 0:19:48]: That we would uh endeavor to have TSW uh create work with the staff and um the uh potential [0:19:50, 0:20:10]: On a potential park design that would include the soccer fields that we have coming with the 12 acres that we acquired on Eagles Landing Parkway. Just to present some ideas to us for the design potential design for that particular project so that it would move forward. [0:20:10, 0:20:30]: forward in the design phase or they would design it. Of course they would have to sit down and they would talk to uh Mr. Morrison and his team uh in order for us to uh put together kind of a concept, kind of like we did for the cultural art, I mean the uh the recreation center and all projects that we do. [0:20:30, 0:20:50]: Because in order for them to uh in order for us to move forward with this park, in addition to all the other parts, it certainly needs to be included and the design needs to start, needs to start with it. And we know that the we know that coming to us uh in the next short term [0:20:50, 0:20:57]: between the next thirty and sixty days would be the gentleman's gonna sit down and make a proposal to us about uh the two soccer fields. [0:20:58, 0:21:18]: If you don't mind, I have a recommendation, full for thought. How about the idea is a good idea? How about that be a separate tasking? A separate tasking because this is a preset amount that is that we already have set. So why don't we take a focus on this preset amount and look at a separate tasking for them for that because that park you're referring to is not even in the downtown area. It's not park uh not [0:21:18, 0:21:38]: Not part of this project that they have. So let's just look at a separate uh process for them. Well, I agree with that. This is not item number six, right? That is six, yes. Right. Item number six is Clark Park, Gardner Park. This is not just related to downtown, right? This is [0:21:38, 0:21:48]: related to the three parts. So those are the three parts. Uh Mr. Gardner prior to him leaving did task T SW with uh including [0:21:48, 0:21:53]: the new park in the park master plan. So they're working on that and I've uh [0:21:53, 0:22:09]: presented Gerald with the contact information for T SW so he can have some conversations about the proposed soccer fields, but there is some ongoing master planning for that property that was acquired from the Henry County Water Authority. Okay, so there is some ongoing [0:22:10, 0:22:13]: Dialogue with T as Mr Mr Sanders come up. [0:22:14, 0:22:34]: I just want to make sure it is moving forward and we just and that is the case because this is gonna be a primary, as you understand, this is a basically the opportunity of a lifetime. So I want to do everything that we can to move this portion forward simultaneously with the other parts because to have professional soccer fields. [0:22:34, 0:22:37]: [1357.4, 1377.4]: Yes, sir. Excuse me. In fact, uh I've spoken with Falcon, uh of which I'm in the process of meeting with them to uh see what we need to do and also have reached out to TSW, haven't heard back from them yet. But the intent is to do exactly what you said, to make sure that we come we get all the engineering and other resources. [0:22:57, 0:23:17]: That we need at the table to talk about master planning. And of course, the contacting of TSW will be to do what you suggested to me last week, and that is get with them to alter the master plan, if you will, so that it is a it is inclusive of the soccer facility going forward. And in and the other thing I would share with you all is. [0:23:17, 0:23:37]: Is uh Mr. Morrison, who is with the Southern Crescent Soccer Association, has reached out to me in an email with some questions and wants to have that type of engagement with us and the engineers so that we can begin doing some of the same things that you just suggested. So I'm trying in the process of answering his email and then setting up the necessary meetings so that. [0:23:37, 0:23:40]: Mm-hmm. [0:23:41, 0:23:45]: Let us not say that we just reached out to TSW. [0:23:45, 0:23:55]: We need to make some contact. So we need the wheels rolling. Yes sir. Yes, sir. So there's an attempt to get them rolling and that done this week, not next week, but this week. [0:23:56, 0:24:00]: So uh Miss Gantt go ahead please. I I d I have one concern with that. Okay. [0:24:00, 0:24:09]: if the if the soccer uh whatever the foundation is and associations, um kind of like the NFL and other like uh uh the m the [0:24:09, 0:24:17]: major baseball league and all that. They usually do all the designing and and things of their o on their own. I don't want to [0:24:18, 0:24:18]: Um [0:24:20, 0:24:21]: Volunteer [0:24:22, 0:24:22]: Any [0:24:23, 0:24:24]: Volunteer any [0:24:24, 0:24:33]: thing that we don't have to volunteer right now. I mean, I I what I want what my opinion is, of course we support it. [0:24:34, 0:24:36]: But I think we should talk about this um [0:24:36, 0:24:38]: You know, we have a set'em out here. [0:24:39, 0:24:41]: And in addition to that [0:24:42, 0:24:45]: It was from my understanding, s based off of some of the things I heard that they were [0:24:46, 0:24:47]: Kind of take this project. [0:24:48, 0:24:49]: In maybe [0:24:50, 0:25:10]: design what they want as as far as professional fields and we would work with them. So I don't want us saying that we are I don't want us jumping the gun and saying we're gonna pay for some type of design or something. L let me explain something to you. It's a say I'm I'm in total agreement with you. I'm not saying we're gonna design the fields. [0:25:09, 0:25:29]: I'm saying that TSW would come up with some concepts on basically where the walking pass would be located, where the fields would be located in coordination with Mr. Morrison and his team. I just want to make sure that this is included in the overall plan and that we officially sanction that [0:25:29, 0:25:49]: They would do so. They would design the fields. They're gonna pay for the fields. That's it. But certainly they're not we're not doing anything to interfere with that because they're paying for the fields. No how many fields are they talking to? So we just tell T SW to locate an area where they can put two soccer fields and then we just master plan the rest of it. [0:25:50, 0:26:10]: You know, if they're gonna pay for the design, then let them pay for the design of the soccer field, but we just leave enough space for them to build those two soccer fields if if they choose, and if not, then we have that land for future uses. So that's the p that is that is the plan. That's what I'm trying to explain to you is that we're not gonna do tie-ins. But they're awesome with coming up with [0:26:10, 0:26:30]: With things that we never thought about. You know what I'm saying? What like when when we can't when they divide an all amphitheater, they think outside the box, things that we've never thought about doing. They'll say, Oh, try this or look at this. I don't want to tell them exactly what to do. I just want them to say, These two soccer fields are going here, and then they were. [0:26:30, 0:26:43]: kinda say look at whatever uh what else we could include in that that leaves that that opens the door to task in TSW just to identify the area location for the cycle fields in or would [0:26:44, 0:26:53]: with the association even do that? Because what I don't want to do is step on their I want them to have free reign in regards to if they're gonna put two [0:26:53, 0:26:59]: Two professional sized soccer fields. I don't wanna spend [0:26:59, 0:27:15]: additional funds on something that we need to possibly tweak later. Probably rather I'd rather get their ideas first and then we tie ours in. Right. They they're gonna meet with Mr Morrison as a part of the thing first. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Okay. [0:27:15, 0:27:16]: It's Barber. [0:27:16, 0:27:17]: Do you have some comments? [0:27:17, 0:27:20]: If there are no other questions, I'd like to make a motion, sir. [0:27:21, 0:27:21]: Go right here, please. [0:27:22, 0:27:22]: Okay. [0:27:23, 0:27:26]: I motion to approve staff's recommendation. [0:27:26, 0:27:27]: For approval. [0:27:28, 0:27:32]: Про тіс дав то му форви продусінь та дизайн. [0:27:32, 0:27:34]: And bid documents for Clark. [0:27:34, 0:27:36]: Gardner and Memorial Park. [0:27:37, 0:27:39]: А звел зрайл дизайн. [0:27:39, 0:27:40]: That will link [0:27:41, 0:27:42]: Clark Park. [0:27:42, 0:27:44]: with downtown Stockbridge. [0:27:44, 0:27:45]: City Hall. [0:27:45, 0:27:46]: The amphitheater. [0:27:47, 0:27:49]: The MLK Senior Heritage Trail [0:27:50, 0:27:51]: And ultimately [0:27:51, 0:27:54]: Connecting with other trail spurs. [0:27:54, 0:27:56]: And existing city greenways. [0:27:57, 0:27:58]: In future phases. [0:27:59, 0:28:00]: This project [0:28:01, 0:28:03]: As part of the parks master plan. [0:28:03, 0:28:05]: And the downtown trail project. [0:28:06, 0:28:07]: The funding source. [0:28:07, 0:28:09]: It's plus five. [0:28:09, 0:28:10]: And bonds. [0:28:11, 0:28:12]: For the downtown trail. [0:28:13, 0:28:16]: costs for the professional services agreement? [0:28:16, 0:28:19]: Seven hundred seventy five thousand dollars. [0:28:20, 0:28:21]: Is there a second emotion? [0:28:21, 0:28:22]: I got one question. [0:28:23, 0:28:26]: Okay. The trail, the master trail plan link. [0:28:26, 0:28:29]: Did Falcon Design not give us that already? Excuse me now. [0:28:30, 0:28:32]: Did Falcon Design not give that to us already? [0:28:33, 0:28:45]: The Path Foundation is working with the No not the downtown. TSW is working with the Path Foundation on this portion though. Okay, all right. Okay, I'm good. Are you seconding the motion? I second. The motion is second. All three, please indicate. [0:28:45, 0:28:47]: Unanimous decision, thank you very much. [0:28:48, 0:28:49]: Mm-hmm. [0:28:50, 0:28:50]: Okay. [0:28:51, 0:29:11]: Council consideration to approve the Trail Project Service Agreement with the PAF Foundation design team will provide a full professional services for surveying landscape architecture, engineering permitting, contract administration, and construction management of a.25 mile, twelve foot wide concrete multi-use trail connecting Clark Park. [0:29:11, 0:29:31]: To Club Place following the Brush Creek Corridor. The mid-block crossing is proposed on Davis Road. The Brush Creek Trail Project is a T S PLOSS project. The funding source is T S PLOS. The cost of the trail services agreement is$109,610. Uh Mr. Aaron, please. And Mr. Gaither, again, Gantther, I guess. [0:29:31, 0:29:32]: to this. [0:29:32, 0:29:35]: Yes, Mr. Mayor. Um as you're aware [0:29:36, 0:29:54]: Uh the Path Foundation is assisting the city with developing and building trails that were identified in the T Splash. So this is the first project that we'll be building using the Path Foundation. So this is the service agreement to get started with the design and the bid documents for the Brush Creek Trail. [0:29:55, 0:30:15]: Mayor. Yes, sir. We've thoroughly reviewed this project in the past. It's been presented to the public, so I'd like to make a motion to approve. Sure, go ahead. I second. Ms. Gantt second the motion. All in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Thank you. I do or don't go yet. And I think Ms. Barber has said it too. I do want to make [0:30:15, 0:30:33]: make sure that we're on the same page. And some of the time those things do need to be codified by a vote. So what you just suggested to me, repeat what you just said about what the direction is on this part uh and that you that has been tasked to TSD. What repeat that. [0:30:33, 0:30:53]: Yes, uh Mr. Gardner prior to him leaving tasked TSW with including the property that was acquired from the Henry County Water Authority into the parts master plan. So I think some conversation if you looking at if the city's looking at those soccer fields is we tasked TSW to include an area for those two soccer professionals. [0:30:53, 0:31:01]: Professional soccer fields so that they're not included in the master plan development. There's enough property for that to happen. [0:31:01, 0:31:18]: I certainly want to make a motion to approve what the city manager has already directed so that this park is officially a part of the parks master plan,'cause it originally was not, and that we should move forward as Mr. Aaron has described. [0:31:19, 0:31:25]: Is there a second to that motion? I second. Okay, all all favor y you have a question? What's your question, please? Yes. Um so [0:31:26, 0:31:33]: I don't know what that cost will be. I don't know what the cost will be for them to add the design. [0:31:33, 0:31:46]: um into what we've just approved. Right. So I was hoping that you would have Mr. Aaron to bring back whatever the design cost is for that and where we would how we would fund it. [0:31:46, 0:31:56]: Certainly that's the be amended the motion to we would approve that tasking the staff with it and that staff would bring back the cost for the design. [0:31:57, 0:32:00]: Yes, I'll get that. Got a vote six six. [0:32:01, 0:32:13]: Well, I'm concerned that if there is a cost, I thought it was already included so there's a separate task order for including this property into the park master plan. Right. And so [0:32:13, 0:32:18]: I don't think there sh would be a substantial cost'cause the only thing you're just telling them [0:32:18, 0:32:21]: If you decide it's five acres instead of them [0:32:22, 0:32:42]: Master planning twelve acres, they master plan seven acres and just leave that five acres available for them to put those fields or however they however much space is needed for those soccer fields, then we just tell'em identify that amount of space for the potential soccer fields. And that doesn't stop. [0:32:42, 0:32:56]: stop us or increase costs cause they were already master plan they would have been a master plan of the entire site anyway. So Right. And that's what the whole thing is to make sure that it is officially included. Cause when we first started the park parks master plan, it wasn't included. No. [0:32:58, 0:33:06]: Motion's been made, been seconded by Miss Gantt. All favor, please indicate. Okay, unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Aaron. Thank you. Okay. [0:33:07, 0:33:27]: Uh announcements of upcoming meetings and events. Uh council meetings will be held in the city council chamber. Meeting dates and location times are subject to change, or contact city hall offices at 770-389-7900 or visit the website at www.starbridgega.org for updates. City Council meeting, second [0:33:27, 0:33:47]: Monday of each month, City Hall, 6 p.m. April 14th. Uh Council meeting special days April 15th. Oh, tax day, by the way, at 5:45 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room. Stockbridge Citizens Police Advisory Council meets on the first Thursday of each month, 6:30 p.m. in Stockbridge Police Community Room. [0:33:47, 0:34:05]: 4545 North Henry Boulevard, which is April 3rd. Citywide Development Authority meeting the second Tuesday of each month at City Hall and the Levi Meeting Room, 6 o'clock, April 14th. The Community Zoning Information Meeting meets Wednesday, April 9th, 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. at City Hall Council Chambers. 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[0:34:48, 0:35:08]: Uh upcoming city events and initiatives join the Stockbridge Youth Council with a second annual Youth Entrepreneur Expo at Clark Park on Saturday, March 29th from noon until 4 p.m. Enjoy e uh a egg hunt, food trucks, games, and while supporting local young entrepreneurs, bring your friends and family for the day of community fun. [0:35:08, 0:35:28]: Councilman Afonso Thomas is honoring veterans and continues to salute all year long. Please send your pictures of veterans and their name, branch, rank, and years of service. Join Councilman Afonso Thomas in partnership with Councilman Kyle Berry for the monthly senior bingo bash Wednesday, April 16th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at Merriaminas Conference Center, 111 Davis Road. [0:35:28, 0:35:48]: For prizes, games, and snacks and fun. And by the way, that actual senior bingo bash is happening tomorrow, Wednesday, March 26th, of course, in Romanics Conference Center from 10 a.m. to 12 noon. And join me for the annual State of the City Address on Tuesday, April 22nd, right here in the City Hall Council Chambers and starts at 6 p.m. [0:35:48, 0:36:08]: p.m. Please contact Rosalind Rawls to schedule an appointment with meet the mayor for more information on council initiatives at 678-833-3348 or by email ralls at starbridgeg.org in the main May concert schedule. Now once again at StockbridgeAmp.com we open [0:36:08, 0:36:28]: We'll open up our 2025 season on Saturday, May 3rd, with My Girls Night featuring Escape 702 in total. Mother's Day weekend, May 10th. We have featuring 112 Drew Hill Silk and Carl Thomas. And then also on the very next day of May 11th, we'll have uh Beanie Beanie Man. [0:36:28, 0:36:48]: It's a Raigae uh concert on the last Sunday. And it's Saturday, May 24th, Memorial Day weekend, is Dirty South Yeet Crunk Fest featuring Pastor Troy, MC Shide D, DJ Raheem the Dream, Mook B. Treville, and East Side Boys. And now obviously there are more uh concerts listed for the upcoming season. Once again, start [0:36:48, 0:36:53]: Starbury's AMP.com. We're gonna have an outstanding season all year long. So come and join us. [0:36:55, 0:37:15]: And uh my comments for tonight uh deals with the fact that uh if you're a baseball fan, of course Braves season starts very shortly here. So support your l Braves as they uh try to get the not only the National League but championship, but also the to the World Series again. So we'll see how things go with that. Always concerned about uh being healthy, ladies and gentlemen. So your COVID booster flu [0:37:15, 0:37:21]: shots and stay healthy and make sure you take your regular doctor visits. We want you alive and healthy and thriving for a long time. [0:37:21, 0:37:28]: And uh April Fool's Day is right around the corner, so make sure you put a nice little prank on your friends and family for April Fool's Day. [0:37:29, 0:37:34]: On that note, Council uh need it uh we need to go to executive session for legal personnel and real estate, please. [0:37:34, 0:37:35]: Some moved. [0:37:35, 0:37:36]: Is there a second? [0:37:36, 0:37:38]: Okay, Mr. Barrett second offer, please indicate. [0:37:39, 0:37:42]: Okay, thank you very much. We'll we'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen. [0:37:51, 0:37:53]: Mm. [0:37:57, 0:37:59]: Well it's the publishing. [0:37:59, 0:38:03]: It just uh deal with the cup by my four. [0:38:08, 0:38:20]: Got you. Are you all right? I was trying to get better, but I was I was in so much pain over the week it wasn't even funny. What kind of medicine [0:39:49, 0:39:58]: Council, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. So moved. Is there a second? A second. From Ms. Gantt to Mr. Berry. All favor, please indicate. [0:39:59, 0:40:03]: So now it's decision. Now need a motion to reconvene our work session, please. [0:40:03, 0:40:08]: So moved from Mr. Alzander. Second, Ms. Barber. All in favor, please indicate. [0:40:08, 0:40:28]: And from our executive session, uh we have something to mention at this time. Mr. Berry, please, sir. Yes, Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to approve a resolution, whereas the City of Stockbridge will delegate the oversight, control, and authority of the day-to-day decisions to of the of the Stockbridge Amphitheater by Star Amphibic. [0:40:28, 0:40:48]: Amphitheater at Stockbridge to the city manager and the city treasurer CFO and implement a POS system and cashless facility effective immediately. In addition to that, to include vetting of vendors' services for concessions, ticketing, security, [0:40:48, 0:41:03]: security, uh artist, vendors, ushers, contract hosts, parking attendance, alcohol vendors, productions vendors, sound vendors, lighting vendors, marketing, travel arrangements, and all such similar services. [0:41:05, 0:41:06]: Is there a second that motion? [0:41:07, 0:41:15]: Mayor Ford. That's for 2026, right? Uh I would second it, but Mr. Berry, there's another section. I'm sorry? That middle section. [0:41:16, 0:41:36]: Add the following language. Oh, thank you. Such reports. Okay, stand by. He's got it. In addition to uh add to a section one C, the following language such as report shall be provided when requested by the city and shall be provided on a regular basis no later than twenty days after an event or cover. [0:41:36, 0:41:40]: concert and submit it directly to the finance department. [0:41:40, 0:41:42]: Okay, so second emotion. [0:41:43, 0:41:44]: Second the motion. [0:41:45, 0:41:47]: I'll second. Okay, Ms. Barber, second. All in favor, please indicate? [0:41:48, 0:41:50]: Mayor Ford. [0:41:51, 0:41:53]: Um I wish to make a comment. [0:41:53, 0:41:56]: Go ready, please. Okay. In regards to the [0:41:58, 0:41:59]: Independent. [0:42:01, 0:42:05]: contractor agreement by between the city and contractor. [0:42:06, 0:42:06]: Um [0:42:06, 0:42:07]: This is not [0:42:08, 0:42:21]: regarding the contractor itself. It is pertaining to the operations of the city and the city's oversight of the operations. I want to thank my colleagues for taking the step [0:42:21, 0:42:21]: Um [0:42:22, 0:42:26]: approving these changes to ensure that we have [0:42:26, 0:42:28]: Um transparent. [0:42:28, 0:42:34]: oversight, full oversight of the operations of the amphitheater. I want to thank Mr. [0:42:34, 0:42:39]: uh young um for the work he's done um with our amphitheater. [0:42:40, 0:42:56]: I just want to encourage our finance department with vetting of the services for all vendors regarding the amphitheater operations throughout the concert season. [0:42:56, 0:42:57]: Um so [0:42:58, 0:43:05]: I just want to thank my colleagues for taking the steps in ensuring that we are transparent about the way. [0:43:05, 0:43:09]: We are operating and managing the amphitheater. [0:43:10, 0:43:23]: Thank you. Thank you. The motion passed four zero is now motion. Now I need a motion to end our council of work session, please. So moved. Is there a second? Ms. Gantt to Mr. Alexander. All in favor, please indicate. God bless y'all. We adjourn. [0:43:28, 0:43:28]: All right.

--- title: Planning Commission date: 2025-03-20 source: 2025-03-20_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:00:10, 0:00:11]: [ 72.5, 76.8]: All right, it is now six thirty. I will now call this meeting to order. [0:01:18, 0:01:30]: Welcome to the City of Stockbridge Planning Commission meeting. I am Jaden Williams, the Chairman of the Stockbridge Planning Commission. The other members of the Planning Commission are Mr. Mika Walker, the Vice Chairwoman, Stanley Dumas, Harold Thibodeau, [0:01:30, 0:01:33]: David Planchin and Ant Anthony Mitten. [0:01:33, 0:01:53]: The staff members are Ryan Anderson, Community Development Director, Valerie Ross, City Zoning Attorney, Linda Logan, Senior Planner and Planning Commission Secretary, Gordon Linton, Senior Planner, and Jordan Bookosh. Did I say it correct? Okay, GIS analyst and our planner. There are a few protocol items. [0:01:53, 0:01:59]: That I need to make you aware of before we start the meeting. So please listen closely on how tonight's meeting will be conducted. [0:02:01, 0:02:02]: Number one. [0:02:02, 0:02:09]: Keep your comments and present on and presentation on a professional level dealing with the facts that are important for this commission to make its decision. [0:02:10, 0:02:26]: We will not accept comments that are considered by the Chair to be a personal attack on any individual or group of individuals. You will receive a warning from the Chair if you deviate from these requirements. A second deviation will result in the request for you to leave the meeting and the premises for the evening. [0:02:26, 0:02:37]: Number two, refrain from any applause or comments from the audience. Only one person will be talking at a time and all comments will be made at the podium after the speaker has been recognized by the chair. [0:02:38, 0:02:43]: Please direct all comments to the chair and the commission, not to the audience or the staff. [0:02:44, 0:02:55]: Please do not applaud or react to speakers, speak from the audience, cheer, carry on conversation with others, others in the audience, or disrupt the order of this meeting in any way. [0:02:56, 0:03:06]: Be aware that these hearings are not a debate or an opportunity to ask questions which must be answered by any individual tonight, but are merely an opportunity to present information to the commission. [0:03:07, 0:03:27]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part of his speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire ten minutes allotted for the pro side of the application. Other than the applicant, no person can speak longer than five minutes. If you have a cell phone or a lecturer, [0:03:27, 0:03:36]: electronic device. I ask that you either power them off or turn them on silent mode. If anyone wishes to speak tonight, please fill out the speakers form which are located on the side of the podium. [0:03:39, 0:03:46]: After each item on the case is called, we will hear next from the city staff and then we'll hear from the applicant or their representative about what their [0:03:47, 0:03:48]: Plans are for the property. [0:03:49, 0:04:08]: Along with any other relevant information which they wish to present, the commission members will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote on the project. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak for or against the project or to ask questions will be at will have the opportunity to do so. [0:04:08, 0:04:18]: Each side is restricted to a maximum of ten minutes, or time may be waived at the discretion of the presiding official. If questions are raised, we may ask the applicant to speak again. [0:04:18, 0:04:29]: Afterwards, we will call for a motion in a second and have necessary discussion. And if the matter is not tabled, we will vote to recommend or deny uh the approval of the application. [0:04:31, 0:04:38]: This commission is only a recommending body. The item will be heard by the mayor and council whether we recommend approval or recommend denial. [0:04:38, 0:04:44]: Unless they are tabled, these items will be heard by the city's mayor and council at the next meeting on Monday, fulfilling. [0:04:45, 0:04:46]: October. [0:04:47, 0:04:57]: Okay. We'll scratch that. We'll get that correct date for you. Uh and the items will be voting on at that meeting. At this time going off the agenda, I will ask for the Secretary to call for the roll. [0:05:02, 0:05:03]: Yes, sir. [0:05:04, 0:05:06]: Dayton Williams? Present. [0:05:06, 0:05:07]: Jamaica Walker. [0:05:08, 0:05:08]: Right. [0:05:09, 0:05:10]: Stanley Dumas? Present. [0:05:11, 0:05:11]: Harold Thibodeau. [0:05:12, 0:05:12]: Yeah. [0:05:13, 0:05:14]: David Planter. Present. [0:05:14, 0:05:15]: Anthony Menton. [0:05:16, 0:05:17]: Present? Mr. Chairman, we have a quorum. [0:05:21, 0:05:25]: Thank you, Madam Secretary. Now we'll go on uh [0:05:25, 0:05:31]: To the invocation and pledge of allegiance, I'm gonna ask Commissioner Dumas to please lead us in the invocation. [0:05:32, 0:05:33]: Let us a bow heads, please. [0:05:36, 0:05:40]: Loving God, we gather here this afternoon to conduct the people's business. [0:05:41, 0:05:45]: God, we invite your spirit into this place. [0:05:45, 0:05:52]: And we ask God that each one of us will allow your spirit to rule our hearts and to guide our thoughts. [0:05:54, 0:06:02]: And that w each of us will continue to be servants of all. Amen. Amen. Amen. If you all please stand and join us in the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:06:07, 0:06:20]: I play allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands One nation, a God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:06:22, 0:06:23]: Thank you so much. [0:06:26, 0:06:35]: Commissioners, before you is the agenda uh for tonight's meeting, which is Thursday, march twentieth, twenty twenty five at six thirty, may I have a motion to approve tonight's agenda? [0:06:37, 0:06:37]: So mode. [0:06:38, 0:06:52]: I have a motion. Is there a second? I second it, Harold. Thank you. I have a motion from Commissioner Doumas and a second from uh Commissioner Thibodeau. All those in favor, please signify by the indication of aye. Aye. All those opposed? [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: So moved, [0:06:55, 0:07:09]: Next up, we have the approval of the meeting minutes from our special called meeting, which was January thirtieth, twenty twenty five, here at City Hall. Please, uh commissioners at this time, please review the met last meeting minutes and I'll take a motion for approval. [0:07:13, 0:07:33]: Mr. Chairman Dave Planchon would make a motion for to approve the uh minutes from last meeting. Thank you so much. Is there a second? I second it, Harold. There's a motion and a second to approve the summary minutes from our special called meeting on January 30th. All those in favor, please signify by the sound of aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? [0:07:33, 0:07:37]: So moved. We will now move on. [0:07:38, 0:07:40]: Boom boo boom boop boop boop. [0:07:42, 0:07:44]: The next item on tonight's agenda. [0:07:45, 0:07:49]: Is the rezoning case RZ twenty twenty five dash O two? [0:07:50, 0:07:56]: I will read it into record. After that we will have a presentation from staff and a public hearing, and then the board will vote on this case. [0:07:58, 0:08:18]: Rezoning case RZ-2025-02. Property is located in the council district of District Four. Consideration of a city of Stockbridge initiated rezoning request to rezone property at Fort 4482 North Henry Boulevard, parcel number S twenty six dash zero one zero one four thousand. [0:08:17, 0:08:24]: from SR suburban residence and DV Downtown Village Overlay District to PUD master plan. [0:08:25, 0:08:45]: And D V Downtown Village Overlay District for the purpose of allowing the construction of a missed mixed residential development. The City of Stockbridge owns this property and is and is the applicant. The property contains fifteen point three as or minus acres and it is located in landlots 61 and 62 of District 12. [0:08:45, 0:08:47]: [550.0, 551.1]: Here Boulevard? [0:09:12, 0:09:13]: Yeah, service right. [0:09:14, 0:09:20]: Miss Linda. Sorry to interrupt you. Could you do me two favors? Could you make sure the mic is on? [0:09:22, 0:09:28]: And then could you also click present on the PowerPoint? All right. Is that better? All right. And then can you click present on the PowerPoint so we can see it full screen? [0:09:31, 0:09:31]: Uh [0:09:35, 0:09:39]: Yeah, well I'd like to you see the panels at the side. [0:09:40, 0:09:45]: It's just a too hard it's not hard. It's a little hard for us to see it like that. Thank you so much. [0:09:48, 0:09:51]: Full screen is in that. There you go. [0:09:56, 0:10:06]: Okay, so again here's the aerial photo. Um let me start at the beginning. This is a presentation for rezoning case number RZ twenty twenty-five oh two. [0:10:06, 0:10:11]: Properties located forty four eighty two North Henry Boulevard in Stockbridge. [0:10:11, 0:10:15]: Um the property is bounded by North Henry Boulevard to the south. [0:10:16, 0:10:20]: And Sara Sea Drive on the west, which actually dead ends into the property. [0:10:20, 0:10:23]: А блок аве Булвард Ана іст. [0:10:26, 0:10:36]: So this property is owned by City of Stockbridge, parcel number S twenty six O one oh one four thousand. It's got approximately fifteen point four three acres. [0:10:36, 0:10:54]: I mentioned the boundary surrounding streets. Um there are also two small parcels to the south and southeast, which city Stockbridge also owns. City may develop them in the future for commercial, but they are not part of this rezoning request. [0:10:54, 0:11:07]: So right now the property has a base zoning of SR which is suburban residential. It is also located in the downtown village overlay district. And the future land use designation is downtown district. [0:11:08, 0:11:17]: So the purpose of the rezoning is to rezone the property from SR Suburban Residential District and Downtown Village Overlay District to PUD. [0:11:18, 0:11:19]: Planned unit development. [0:11:19, 0:11:21]: uh district master plan. [0:11:21, 0:11:22]: And [0:11:22, 0:11:42]: Downtown Village Overlay District, that part would stay the same. So rezoning is needed because proposed this is a development for proposed single family and townhomes. The townhomes are not allowed in the SR district. So that's why property needs to be rezoned. And also the PUD zoning, which is requested, um [0:11:42, 0:11:46]: requires two types of land uses allows and [0:11:46, 0:11:48]: And requires two types of land uses. [0:11:49, 0:11:52]: Uh D T V district could stay the same as I mentioned. [0:11:53, 0:12:00]: Uh these the proposed town homes would would be compatible with the land use designation of the property of downtown districts, so therefore [0:12:00, 0:12:03]: There is no comprehensive plan. Amendment is needed. [0:12:05, 0:12:07]: Here are maps of the property. [0:12:07, 0:12:11]: The star is the location of the property. On the left, that's the zoning map. [0:12:12, 0:12:15]: You see all the yellow area that is the SR district. [0:12:16, 0:12:20]: And then uh to the right we have the uh downtown village overlay district. [0:12:20, 0:12:23]: Um two colours of purple, but the um [0:12:23, 0:12:26]: The lighter shade is the downtown village overlay district. [0:12:27, 0:12:32]: And property is not, by the way, in the PMU overlay district. [0:12:32, 0:12:33]: Uh [0:12:35, 0:12:40]: Okay, this is just an enlargement of those same zoning some same maps. [0:12:42, 0:12:50]: All right, and here's the land use map. The purple area is the downtown district. That is the that is the future land use designation. [0:12:51, 0:12:58]: This is a survey of the property. It's ki it's kind of light, but the two small parcels down here, those what I said a moment ago. [0:12:58, 0:13:03]: that the city also owns those on C two and city might develop them in the future. [0:13:04, 0:13:10]: Uh here is the proposed master plan. Now I do have an enlargement if you wanna [0:13:10, 0:13:23]: That's pretty large. It's kind of light, but um anyway, main entrance would be from North Henry Boulevard. There would be a second entrance to the to the west. The Sara Sea Drive would be extended into the property. [0:13:24, 0:13:27]: Uh, there would be also several internal streets, a cul-de-sac at the back. [0:13:28, 0:13:31]: Um the townhomes would be units would be [0:13:31, 0:13:32]: In the front [0:13:33, 0:13:36]: And the single family would be at the at the rear. [0:13:37, 0:13:43]: Here is some uh information about the development, mixed residential, so sixty-seven total units. [0:13:44, 0:13:50]: And of those there would be twenty five single family at the rear and forty two townhomes at the front. [0:13:51, 0:13:55]: I mentioned the property accesses. A monument sign would be [0:13:56, 0:13:57]: Erected um [0:13:57, 0:13:59]: At North Henry Boulevard, at the front. [0:14:00, 0:14:02]: The amenities would be too landscaped. [0:14:03, 0:14:05]: Areas with pavilions. [0:14:05, 0:14:09]: Um, we have lot dimensions, single family lots would be fifty feet. [0:14:09, 0:14:11]: Wide and eighty feet deep. [0:14:11, 0:14:31]: And then the townhome lots 24 feet wide and 46 feet deep. So setbacks would be 20 feet or more. Now, PUD zoning, of course, does not have any specific setback requirements, but this is what is proposed. If rezoning is approved, the city, of course, would uh select a developer to [0:14:31, 0:14:34]: Determine further project details. [0:14:35, 0:14:44]: Um now we've reviewed the applicable zoning regulations, uh some things about the PUD district, its intent to provide balanced neighborhoods. [0:14:44, 0:14:49]: property must have three acres at least to qualify for PUD. [0:14:49, 0:14:50]: And also two types of [0:14:51, 0:14:53]: uses or two types of housing. [0:14:53, 0:14:58]: And it requires a master plan, a site plan, which that's what this is. [0:14:58, 0:14:59]: The site plan that I showed you. [0:15:00, 0:15:05]: Uh the downtown village uh overlay district, um its purpose is to [0:15:05, 0:15:10]: augment the downtown area and recognize an affirmative as a central focus. [0:15:10, 0:15:13]: of commercial, artisan civic activities. [0:15:13, 0:15:17]: And allow the existing downtown area to flourish and intensify. [0:15:18, 0:15:19]: Um [0:15:19, 0:15:24]: and other intent is to provide a retail service and civic center for the city. [0:15:25, 0:15:30]: Now very important about the downtown um uh overlay district. [0:15:30, 0:15:45]: is that the these regulations take precedence over regulations of all other districts, including the base zoning district and any other overlay district. Okay, uh single family, multifamily uses are special uses. [0:15:46, 0:15:46]: Um [0:15:47, 0:15:50]: And there are extensive architectural requirements for [0:15:50, 0:15:52]: The townhomes of multifamily. [0:15:53, 0:15:54]: And [0:15:54, 0:15:55]: There's there's a lot of them here. [0:15:56, 0:16:00]: Um, I'll just mention'em. We can discuss it further if you wish. [0:16:00, 0:16:05]: Um this is about exterior facades should be proportionate to surrounding buildings. [0:16:05, 0:16:07]: uh s as well as a scale. [0:16:08, 0:16:11]: Now exterior shall surfaces shall have three sides brick. [0:16:12, 0:16:14]: Of a h three sides with a hundred percent brick. [0:16:15, 0:16:28]: And the front side at fifty percent brick or stuck stone or stucco. Color should be s harmo harmonious with surrounding development. Um you've got to ha enclose a trash uh area, eight foot sidewalk, [0:16:29, 0:16:48]: historic street lamps and minimum fourteen feet um front yard setback may go up to twenty feet. All right, um let's see, side yard setback at least ten feet, uh rear twenty-five, maximum of four stories or fifty-five feet a high. [0:16:48, 0:16:56]: Um off street parking, you gotta have an eight foot buffer um between the facility and streets, islands eight feet wide. [0:16:57, 0:16:57]: And [0:16:58, 0:17:02]: A let's see, separated by every four feet. [0:17:02, 0:17:05]: Separation is four feet in width every twelve spaces. [0:17:06, 0:17:22]: And utilities should be located underground. That I have not seen in other other districts. So that that's something different. All right, so he analyzed according to the UDC what the regulations are. This proposed rezoning would be consistent with the comprehensive plan. [0:17:22, 0:17:24]: Providing additional housing for the city. [0:17:24, 0:17:28]: Um compatible with the future land use destination of downtown. [0:17:29, 0:17:32]: Its near downtown would help to extend it with compatible uses and [0:17:33, 0:17:38]: And it would represent an infield development because the site's been vacant for a long time. [0:17:38, 0:17:53]: Uh let's see. So the rezoning is necessary as I mentioned because town homes are not allowed under SR and would also offer a transition between the adjacent commer and surrounding commercial uses and single family at the rear. [0:17:56, 0:18:06]: Um some of these I've mentioned already. The property itself is relatively flat with no flow flood no floodplains. There is a Georgia Power Company Easement. [0:18:07, 0:18:09]: On the east side, bordering to the east. [0:18:09, 0:18:12]: That would need to be protected and not encroached or anything. [0:18:12, 0:18:24]: uh impacts on adjacent property owners. This is a relatively small development and and at least half of it would still be single family to be compatible with the single family therir. [0:18:25, 0:18:30]: Um, traffic would use North Henry Boulevard or use the traffic light from North Lee Street. [0:18:32, 0:18:46]: Okay. The public works department would provide water and sewage services. Now I contacted them. I'm still waiting to hear back from them as far as to determine uh would there be sufficient um capacity to serve this proposed development. [0:18:47, 0:18:51]: The fire marshal is in favor of the two accesses that are proposed. [0:18:51, 0:18:52]: Um [0:18:52, 0:18:56]: Again, they could use uh left turning vehicles, could use uh the traffic signal. [0:18:57, 0:18:58]: Ah, let's see. [0:18:59, 0:18:59]: And [0:19:00, 0:19:02]: Now could this happen? Um could [0:19:02, 0:19:13]: this property be developed under SR, it it could, but whether it would totally be developed with single family is questionable due to the presence of nearby commercial uses. [0:19:14, 0:19:28]: Okay. Recommendations. Okay. And should I read these into the record? So staff recommends approval with the following suggested conditions. Uh Mr. Chairman, do you want me to read these into the record? [0:19:28, 0:19:29]: Uh yes, please. [0:19:29, 0:19:30]: Okay. [0:19:30, 0:19:31]: Number one. [0:19:31, 0:19:36]: Conceptual site plan conceptual site plan shall serve as the master plan for the proposed development. [0:19:37, 0:19:41]: in terms of the numbers and types of residential uses to be built. [0:19:41, 0:19:49]: Site accesses, overall design of the project, thereby fulfilling the requirement for PUD zoning of the property. Number two. [0:19:50, 0:19:57]: LDP site plan. A more detailed site plan shall be developed once the city secures a developer for the project. [0:19:58, 0:20:14]: And it shall be prepared in accordance with the requirements of the downtown village overlay district to aid in stimulating and preserving downtown Stockbridge, as follows. A, this is two A project size, maximum of seventy residential units shall be constructed. [0:20:14, 0:20:20]: which would represent a density of four point five four point five four units per acre. [0:20:20, 0:20:21]: Uh two B. [0:20:22, 0:20:31]: Setbacks. The building setbacks shall be a minimum of fourteen feet from the curb for front yards, minimum of ten feet on the sides for single family detached homes, [0:20:31, 0:20:35]: and in units of townhomes or other attached residences. [0:20:35, 0:20:37]: And a minimum of twenty five feet for the rears. [0:20:41, 0:20:42]: K two C. [0:20:42, 0:20:44]: Amenities a developer shall consider [0:20:45, 0:20:50]: Adding a dog park, a walking trail, a playground, and or picnic a barbecue area. [0:20:50, 0:20:58]: uh two two D, trash handling, an enclosed dumpster shall be provided rather than individual trash cans. [0:20:58, 0:21:12]: two E internal sidewalks. Internal sidewalks shall be located on both sides of streets and they shall be at least eight feet wide in the front yards of residences, including a six foot wide [0:21:12, 0:21:15]: Sodted landscape buffer between a street and a sidewalk. [0:21:15, 0:21:17]: Two F. [0:21:17, 0:21:18]: Parking spaces. [0:21:18, 0:21:21]: A sufficient number of parking spaces shall be provided for [0:21:21, 0:21:24]: In relation to the number of bedrooms per residential unit. [0:21:25, 0:21:29]: according to the UDC, as well as for common area guest parking. [0:21:29, 0:21:30]: two G [0:21:31, 0:21:32]: Park and lot design. [0:21:33, 0:21:39]: Parking lots shall have eight foot wide buffers adjacent to streets, eight foot wide islands between parking aisles. [0:21:40, 0:21:43]: And four foot wide separations for every twelve parking spaces. [0:21:44, 0:21:46]: Okay, and two H. [0:21:46, 0:21:48]: Parcel interconnectivity. [0:21:49, 0:21:53]: Provision shall be made for pedestrian access to adjacent commercial parcels. [0:21:53, 0:21:54]: Number three. [0:21:55, 0:21:56]: Architectural design. [0:21:57, 0:21:57]: A [0:21:57, 0:21:58]: three A [0:21:58, 0:22:03]: Scale the project scale shall be compatible with the scale of surrounding developments. [0:22:04, 0:22:05]: Three B. [0:22:05, 0:22:10]: Maximum height, the building shall not exceed four stories or fifty five feet. [0:22:10, 0:22:11]: Three C [0:22:12, 0:22:14]: Building, facade, styles, and colors. [0:22:14, 0:22:20]: The building facade shall be compatible in style and color with facades of surrounding buildings. [0:22:20, 0:22:21]: Three D. [0:22:22, 0:22:23]: Building facade materials. [0:22:24, 0:22:28]: The building facades shall be faced on three sides with one hundred percent brick. [0:22:29, 0:22:31]: And the front side shall be faced with [0:22:31, 0:22:33]: Fifty percent brick, stone, or stock though. [0:22:34, 0:22:34]: Three [0:22:35, 0:22:35]: E [0:22:36, 0:22:37]: Garages. [0:22:37, 0:22:43]: All residential units which face or can be seen from North Henry Boulevard shall have two car garages. [0:22:43, 0:22:44]: Three F. [0:22:45, 0:22:49]: Lighting, historic style street lamps shall be installed on a site. [0:22:51, 0:22:52]: Number four. [0:22:52, 0:22:58]: External considerations. A. Three four A. This is four A. Utilities. [0:22:58, 0:23:02]: The developer shall comply with all requirements of City Stockbridge's public works department. [0:23:03, 0:23:10]: in providing sufficient water and sewer facilities to serve the proposed development, and these facilities shall be located underground. [0:23:10, 0:23:11]: Four B. [0:23:12, 0:23:27]: Site security. Whether or not a community is gated, flock cameras shall be provided at all site accesses. Four C easements. No encroachments or other actions shall disturb the Georgia Power Company easement to the east. [0:23:28, 0:23:29]: And finally for D. [0:23:30, 0:23:31]: Property maintenance. [0:23:31, 0:23:41]: An HOA or townhome association shall be established or a property management company shall be secured to maintain all common areas of the site. [0:23:42, 0:23:43]: Thank you so much. [0:23:44, 0:23:46]: Well, Mr Chairman, may I speak? [0:23:46, 0:23:47]: Yes, sir. Go ahead. [0:23:48, 0:23:53]: Uh Miss Logan, I uh there's two items I'm interested in that you didn't mention on that. [0:23:53, 0:24:08]: Have we done a traffic study or have we uh did a study with the citizen uh about this development? I know we're doing it tonight, but uh is there any prior uh commitments with the community from the developer? [0:24:09, 0:24:11]: None none that I'm aware of. [0:24:12, 0:24:20]: Well, I think I think that would should have been done. We had a uh CZIM meeting and some citizens came out. We had that uh two weeks ago. [0:24:21, 0:24:41]: Yeah, but the problem is she didn't list any of that here. So how how are we supposed to know? Well it's it's mandatory though. We that's a new uh process that we had a community zoning uh information meeting we have um this two weeks before the planning commission meeting. So we advertise that in the newspaper just like we advertise for the planning commissions and uh [0:24:41, 0:24:46]: Um male notices were sent out to all property owners within five hundred feet as required by code. [0:24:48, 0:24:50]: I I think also that [0:24:50, 0:25:10]: The board needs to be aware of that situation because we have the community coming near and they're looking for answers. And I can I can't give my answer because I don't I don't know that this actually took place. So in the future, it'd be nice for us to know this. If I'm looking through all these documents and I see two items missing. [0:25:10, 0:25:30]: missing that actually should have been in there. That's something we need to know when we're uh speaking with the community. Well we we can we can uh add that going forward. We can put a statement in there. Uh identifying when the community zoning information meeting was held and the date of the mail notices when they went out to the uh nearby residences. Thank you. [0:25:31, 0:25:33]: Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were asking about a traffic study. [0:25:34, 0:25:43]: Yes, ma'am, I did. Uh but we we we just didn't have anything. I'm I'm just inquiring as a board. Right. Well a and it's a small development. [0:25:43, 0:25:46]: Awesome. Do any other board members have any questions? [0:25:48, 0:25:50]: Mr. Chairman, I have a question. [0:25:52, 0:26:12]: So my question is uh is is it um um is there is there a problem with us just leaving the property as it is or is there an option to maybe sell it to another a private citizen or [0:26:12, 0:26:13]: Someone else. [0:26:13, 0:26:22]: Well it's the city would have to hire a developer and um to come up with details for the plan. This is just a conceptual site plan. [0:26:22, 0:26:42]: Y yes, this this property is one of several properties that the city own owns downtown and is part of the overall downtown master plan. The city's trying to increase the density downtown and create new housing opportunities for residents to support to support our local businesses that are located downtown. So um the city will after the if the rezon [0:26:42, 0:26:48]: is successful, the city will market the property to a developer to develop the property. [0:26:50, 0:26:52]: Thank you, Ryan. Bice by share, is that all? [0:26:53, 0:27:11]: Why we meet it? Mr. Chairman. Ms. Logan, so what one thing I don't see here is any type of buffer between the existing homes and the uh proposed development. Is there anything that's being considered? Uh well let's see. I if I can pull up a enlargement site plane. I guess I can't. [0:27:12, 0:27:32]: Buffer is required um when they're incom when they're different zoning for a different zoning. For instance the SR and the PUD uh will would require a twenty five foot buffer. That's mandated by code. Okay. Um let me clarify, I'm sorry. So when I say a buffer, I mean [0:27:32, 0:27:35]: [1656.3, 1676.3]: Existing yes. Fencing over a certain height, existing trees being left in place, new shrubbery, or anything anything suggested. There will there will be a a a buffer. Uh I'm not sure exactly um how much vegetation will be pl be inside that buffer, but we will require a buffer between the equipment. [0:27:56, 0:28:00]: between the existing residences and the new development. Okay. Thank you. [0:28:02, 0:28:12]: Are are there any other questions from the commissioners? M Mr Chairman, may I please? Oh strategically I think this is a good product. [0:28:14, 0:28:20]: Uh particularly considering what the city is trying to do in the downtown area. [0:28:21, 0:28:23]: I think it's a great look. [0:28:24, 0:28:31]: I did have a concern and you partially addressed it in your conditions. Uh [0:28:33, 0:28:38]: During your presentation it appeared to me that the amenities were [0:28:40, 0:28:41]: Can scars. [0:28:42, 0:28:50]: Um and that was gonna be a question that I was gonna ask of you and I see here you've put it in there that that developers shall consider [0:28:50, 0:28:51]: Right. [0:28:52, 0:28:58]: Adding a dog park, a walking trail and a playground, and or barbecue picnic area. [0:29:00, 0:29:07]: I think that's great. I uh the the term consider d to me doesn't mean that it actually may happen. [0:29:08, 0:29:28]: Well those are you can consider it and then walk away and leave it. Well they these are all suggestions. These are all suggestions. I would like to see a little more stronger language.'Cause I mean we hold other developers pretty much the feet to the fire when it comes to amenities in developments. Um [0:29:28, 0:29:48]: Um I yeah, I I wouldn't wanna set a precedent because if the city owns the property. Right. We would kinda slack a slight in there by to go out to amenities. I would just like to see it but a little more stronger language than that. You agree with those [0:29:48, 0:29:50]: Suggested amenities? [0:29:50, 0:30:09]: Oh no question uh but I just have a problem with the the word consider. Oh okay. I I I think we could use a little s m more concrete verbiage than shall shall add. Shall shall provide. Sounds better than the sh we're we're gonna do it. You know, not that we we're gonna think about doing it. [0:30:09, 0:30:09]: Yeah. [0:30:10, 0:30:25]: That's what I'm feeling now. We we'll think about it, but I would rather hear we're gonna do it.'Cause that's what we require of other developers when they come before us uh i in their depro in their products. Well you can put that in the motion if you'd like. [0:30:26, 0:30:46]: Before we get there, um are you done? Go ahead. Thank you. And I'm gonna I'm gonna echo the sentiments of uh Board Member Doans, but I have a question really concerning about the uh compatibility with the surrounding areas. And so I wanna know uh how how are we gonna address as developers the concerns for the residents of Spanish Village and Pinehurst in regards to the potential impacts on [0:30:46, 0:30:59]: on their property values and their neighborhood character and that increase of density due to uh one, the townhomes that we're adding, but also the predominantly single family uh area that we're trying to add. [0:31:00, 0:31:05]: I think in the larger context uh context, as Ryan said, the goal is to [0:31:06, 0:31:06]: To [0:31:07, 0:31:25]: enhance the downtown area with more intense uses and that um it may be unlikely that that properties with that front of Henry Boulevard would be developed as single family maybe at the rear, which this is exactly what this proposes, but not at the front. [0:31:26, 0:31:34]: Uh so they s you know, the basically the back half of the property would be single family, just like the surrounding streets behind it. [0:31:35, 0:31:55]: It's compatible uh because there's no uh required change in density. Though there there is no comp plan associated with this, so it fits in with the character of the neighborhood as presented because the density will remain the same. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you, staff. Are there any other questions from the board members? Mr. Chairman may I finish [0:31:55, 0:32:00]: Oh my comment. Ms. Logan [0:32:01, 0:32:11]: You have four amenities choices in addition to the pavilion, two pavilions that you mentioned earlier. [0:32:13, 0:32:15]: It I don't wanna [0:32:17, 0:32:23]: issue a directive. That's not what my intentions are. But m perhaps it it would be [0:32:25, 0:32:27]: prudent to require the developer [0:32:28, 0:32:29]: To pick [0:32:30, 0:32:36]: Two of the four that you got listed in addition to the the two pavilions? [0:32:37, 0:32:38]: What do you think? [0:32:39, 0:32:57]: Well and also you might wanna think about maybe uh prov having the developer provide some active amenities and some passive amen pa active and passive amenities, maybe because it walking trail is more maybe active than the others. [0:32:59, 0:33:00]: You might even want to add something. [0:33:02, 0:33:11]: So maybe you consider a a dog park active, you consider a walking trail active, you consider a playground active. [0:33:13, 0:33:14]: I may ask you. [0:33:15, 0:33:27]: Uh that's a matter of interpretation. I think a more active would be something like uh tennis court or ball field and those kind of things. We don't see many of those anymore. Pickleball courts. [0:33:27, 0:33:33]: Well, you know, I don't wanna d detain the meeting hold it up unnecessarily. I would suggest [0:33:34, 0:33:40]: Did you uh and I'm gonna flip it back to you, that we remove consider [0:33:40, 0:33:47]: from the re requirements and recommendations and that we require the developer to add [0:33:49, 0:33:53]: At least two of the listed amenities from this list. [0:33:54, 0:33:58]: Okay. You could put that in your motion but we have to hold the public hearing first. [0:34:00, 0:34:00]: Uh. [0:34:00, 0:34:05]: I'm sorry, you want me to make a motion for it? No, well we have to have the public hearing first. Okay. Very good. Thank you. [0:34:06, 0:34:11]: And let me ask you this, uh, which which uh recommendation number are you looking at? [0:34:13, 0:34:15]: Uh six C [0:34:19, 0:34:25]: Uh it's actually two C. It's the first one on [0:34:25, 0:34:29]: The slide that says recommendations, slide number two. [0:34:30, 0:34:50]: Copy. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Miss Linda. If there are no other comments from the board, um, I will now open the public hearing for this case. If there is anyone who would like to speak in favor of rezoning case RZ 2025-OT O2, ask questions or [0:34:49, 0:35:00]: make comments, please come forward and tell us your name and address. And if there is anyone that would like that would like to speak other than in favor of the case, please come forward and tell us your name and address. [0:35:13, 0:35:32]: And did you already fill out a sheet for us, sir? Yes sir, I did. Awesome. Please state your name and address. I'll try and speak a little louder. My name is Richard Ordonis. I live at one one two Man Boulevard, right next to the proposed construction property. My wife Reeb and I have lived there for a year. Is the green button on? [0:35:33, 0:35:36]: Hello? Hello? It's just low. Yeah. [0:35:37, 0:35:54]: How's this? A little bit better? That's okay. I'll try and speak into that. Um my name is Richard Ordonis. My wife, Reba and I have lived on Mann Boulevard for over thirty years, and she was originally born and raised in Stockbridge. So we've been here for quite a while, seeing all the changes and everything that's gone through. Um [0:35:55, 0:36:02]: If I may, I've made a couple of I've made a map to show in reference to things I'm speaking, if I could get this to the [0:36:02, 0:36:05]: Pass it to look for the it was for you to be virtually. [0:36:14, 0:36:18]: All right. I have several issues uh in regards to the property [0:36:20, 0:36:21]: proposal for this development. [0:36:22, 0:36:23]: Number one. [0:36:24, 0:36:27]: How will the construction affect the creek and drainage? [0:36:28, 0:36:32]: area on Man Boulevard as well as on the other side of the proposed construction site. [0:36:32, 0:36:41]: There are natural underground springs on property located on Man Boulevard as well as on the proposed construction site that are a natural runoff into the creek. [0:36:42, 0:36:46]: Given the number of units proposed, these springs will be affected. [0:36:46, 0:36:50]: Also the runoff from the new property will cause more runoff towards current [0:36:50, 0:36:52]: businesses and housing in the area. [0:36:53, 0:37:03]: The property and creek also have runoff water from the odd numbered properties of the Man Boulevard, since the even numbered properties are downhill from the properties across the street as well as the street itself. [0:37:04, 0:37:06]: With a strong rainstorm. [0:37:07, 0:37:12]: The water in the creek can rise as much as six feet or more in a matter of minutes. [0:37:14, 0:37:15]: Number two. [0:37:15, 0:37:21]: If this construction is approved, consideration must be given for the safety of children re in regards to the creek. [0:37:22, 0:37:25]: Children have a natural inquisitive nature and they must be protected. [0:37:27, 0:37:28]: Number three. [0:37:29, 0:37:33]: In addition to the current traffic, there has been a splost in the city of expansion. [0:37:34, 0:37:36]: in the city for expansion of Rock Quarry Road. [0:37:37, 0:37:44]: Expansion along with new housing construction would cause more massive delays if expansion and construction coincide. [0:37:45, 0:37:49]: Онс до роккори род експерті ста експансію старс. [0:37:49, 0:37:53]: The backups will also affect traffic on Flippin' Road, North Henry Boulevard, [0:37:54, 0:37:58]: Highway forty two South, Eagles Landing and Hudson Bridge Road. [0:37:59, 0:38:06]: Any situations causing more delays, as was experienced recently at Eagles Landing and Rock Quarry intersection around the hospital. [0:38:07, 0:38:11]: Афект the entire area as drivers try and find alternate routes. [0:38:11, 0:38:14]: Which due to current traffic are themselves very busy. [0:38:15, 0:38:18]: North Henry Boulevard already is very congested. [0:38:19, 0:38:25]: Construction vehicles will be coming onto North Henry Boulevard, delaying traffic on North Henry Boulevard and Rock Coy Road. [0:38:25, 0:38:27]: causing additional backups. [0:38:28, 0:38:31]: Even if construction vehicles will be entering at a traffic light, [0:38:32, 0:38:36]: Which may not be possible or may not be allowed, it will delay traffic even more. [0:38:37, 0:38:43]: The width across Rockcoy Road is right at or extremely close to the width across the street of the [0:38:43, 0:38:48]: Where a fence from an unoccupied business and is is and a proposed commercial lot would be. [0:38:49, 0:38:52]: Considering the fact that the power lines are not in a straight line [0:38:53, 0:38:55]: And they come very close to our property. [0:38:56, 0:39:00]: A road inside the construction area would not fit between the power lines men boulevards. [0:39:01, 0:39:05]: Power line offsets would increase the distance on which a street would have to be. [0:39:06, 0:39:15]: And traffic from the proposed construction site would increase traffic tenfold on a constant basis since no traffic light could be at the entrance on North Henry Boulevard. [0:39:18, 0:39:29]: Number four, I would like to see a study done on the effects of existing homes the new construction would have regarding blasts from Rock Quarry, the quarry that exists on Rock Quarry Road. [0:39:29, 0:39:33]: The current blasts are explosions from the rock quarry. [0:39:34, 0:39:38]: The blasts from explosions are already felt by residents as their homes literally shake. [0:39:40, 0:39:43]: The property as it exists now allows some of the blast to be absorbed. [0:39:44, 0:40:01]: If construction is done, these blasts may cause more reverberations to existing homes from the new homes, eventually causing damage to the homes. In other words, when this vibrations come, they go through the property, but if they hit buildings and stuff, they reverberate and move out towards the older homes on either side. [0:40:03, 0:40:09]: And number five, the proposed construction site would destroy another wildlife habitat. [0:40:09, 0:40:13]: All wildlife, including deer, raccoons, opossums, etcetera. [0:40:14, 0:40:16]: We no longer have that habitat area. [0:40:17, 0:40:23]: With all recent expansions in the city as well as Henry County, they are having a difficult time trying to find areas to inhabit. [0:40:24, 0:40:36]: I have a few more things on mine, but due to time constraints I just wanted to limit it to that. But again, the map that I've given shows the springs, the creek, the flow of things, all those type of things that I've mentioned. Thank you so much. [0:40:39, 0:40:43]: Is there anyone that would like to speak in favor of the rezoning case? [0:40:45, 0:40:48]: Seeing none. Is there anyone that would like to speak aga [0:40:49, 0:40:51]: Yeah, against uh. [0:40:51, 0:40:53]: Please state your name and address for us, please. [0:40:53, 0:41:02]: My name is Doug Fodry. I live at 113 Man Boulevard. Uh I just moved here uh to Stockbridge about a year and a half ago. Love the town. [0:41:02, 0:41:22]: Uh the two concerns I have is one is I have about six deer that come up through my yard that come up from those fifteen acres, cross up through my backyard, and cross behind U-Haul into the cemetery. So I have those on camera, so it's a natural trail where they come through. So my concern is has there been a DNA? [0:41:22, 0:41:23]: [2485.0, 2490.6]: on the property, what it would affect with the wildlife, all the wildlife that's in that fifteen acres. [0:41:31, 0:41:33]: Uh the other concern I have is [0:41:34, 0:41:37]: Love the amplitude, but my house sits up on a hill. [0:41:37, 0:41:41]: And I do hear concerts in my house. So [0:41:41, 0:41:44]: If you cut down all the trees. [0:41:45, 0:41:49]: I won't have a natural barrier. So now the sound ordinance [0:41:49, 0:41:52]: on my house will increase during concerts. [0:41:53, 0:41:55]: And I've been to concerts. I love it. [0:41:55, 0:42:07]: But sometimes the concerts run late and they do get loud. So that's my concern. My two concerns is the sound barrier when you've cut all the trees down and the effect to wildlife. Thank you. [0:42:07, 0:42:13]: Thank you so much, sir. Is there anyone else that would like to speak against this rezoning case? [0:42:14, 0:42:14]: Please. [0:42:29, 0:42:39]: Good afternoon. My name is Brenda Callaway. My husband, Edward and I c uh Edward Callaway, we live on one oh two Sarissa, the street that that's gonna come right down. [0:42:39, 0:42:42]: And my concern is traffic. [0:42:42, 0:43:02]: Because it's already it's a small community, it's only five houses over there, right back here. And I'm like the gentleman said, we write down from the amphitheater and when they cut down the other trees, the noise gets really, really loud. And if you cut down all the trees behind us and build up all that property, all it's gonna bring [0:43:02, 0:43:09]: is a lot of traffic through that area'cause that's gonna be a ther a through street from what these [0:43:09, 0:43:11]: Uh the lady was saying it. [0:43:11, 0:43:18]: That's gonna be a street. They're gonna use Sarisa. That's my concern. That's why I oppose it. Because we've only been out here [0:43:18, 0:43:20]: We haven't been out here three years yet. [0:43:21, 0:43:23]: We like the community because it's quiet. [0:43:24, 0:43:44]: And to bring in that many properties and you know, that much traffic and that small of a space. You and uh all of our all the residents in that area is only two families that's under forty. Everybody is in their seventies and eighties. And that's my concern. It's the traffic and the noise. [0:43:43, 0:43:49]: And yes, I oppose it. Thank you so much. Is there anyone else that opposes [0:43:51, 0:43:51]: Yeah. [0:43:53, 0:43:59]: And if there's anybody else that actually wants to speak, if you could just stand here, uh please come up to the podium, sir, and we'll go from there. [0:44:02, 0:44:05]: Good afternoon. My name is Elba Callaway. [0:44:05, 0:44:22]: I would just uh wanna say something about uh traffic also. Uh I have I have uh I have five grandkids. And then the way we like my wife say, we stay right here on Sarissa Drive. So I have five grandkids. So if you got traffic going up and down the street, where are my kids gonna play at? [0:44:22, 0:44:31]: In the front yard. If you got cars going up and down the road on both sides. Plus the street is so narrow, so my thing there, how they gonna be up? [0:44:31, 0:44:34]: How there gonna be a way to get through? [0:44:34, 0:44:54]: to what you know what they plan on doing the instruction there. How there gonna be a way for them to get through when the street is so narrow as it is. And like I said, you got kids in the neighborhood and you got traffic going up and down the street. So then another thing, you're not gonna be able to walk out your house without seeing traffic going up and down the street. So you're gonna have to dodge [0:44:54, 0:44:56]: Plus we got a bag out the driveway. [0:44:56, 0:45:06]: How you gonna do bag out the driveway when you got traffic going up and down the street? So you just in a barn, you know. So that's my what I wanna say. Thank you so much, sir. Yeah, thank you. [0:45:07, 0:45:10]: May I if you can come up to the podium and say your name and address. [0:45:12, 0:45:32]: Hello, my name is Quisha Perpal. I live at 127 Bryan Street. I'm not as prepared as the others because I rushed from work. I'm sorry. But if we can look at the proposed site plan together, initially where you see here, it where it says total property, that rectangle that's there. [0:45:32, 0:45:52]: That's my house and my neighbor's home. I am directly connected to the 15 acres that you guys plan to use. I do understand that at some point it will have to be used because you want to use all 500 of your acres for redevelopment. But to be directly affected by this, um, the street that they've proposed here on the right side of the proposed plan. [0:45:52, 0:46:12]: That is actually my backyard and my neighbor's backyard. So it would then be a danger to our children. The demographic has changed a little bit on the street, as she said. Most of the neighbors are in their 70s and 80s. And in my case, my neighbors who are in their 80s have now passed away within the past year and a half. [0:46:11, 0:46:21]: So now we have younger couples, younger families moving in, and then this will pose a hazard and be dangerous for the children in addition to infrastructure. [0:46:21, 0:46:33]: Um, when we think about that, what are the plans that we have to expand North Henry Boulevard as far as an entry and exit point? Because if we're only using North Lee Street, when you combine that with [0:46:33, 0:46:43]: The little bit of residence that we do have, sixty seven units and the amphitheater. Now we're looking at an issue with traffic and safety for us. That'll be all. [0:46:43, 0:46:44]: Thank you so much. [0:46:45, 0:46:48]: Does anyone else wish to speak in regards to this case? [0:46:49, 0:47:03]: If not, I am now going to close the public hearing. The board will now have an opportunity to vote on this case. Do I have a motion regarding uh rezoning case RZ-2025-02? [0:47:03, 0:47:04]: emotion. [0:47:05, 0:47:06]: I push your motion, ma'am. [0:47:07, 0:47:16]: Mr. Chairman, Dave Planchon. Oops. Go ahead. One second. I had one from the vice chair to to deny correct. Yes. To deny our the rezoning case. Is there a second? [0:47:17, 0:47:25]: Mr. Chairman, I second. I have a motion and a second to deny rezoning case RZ 2025 02. Is there any discussion? [0:47:26, 0:47:31]: Hearing none, all those in favor of the denial, please signify by the sound of aye. Aye. Aye. [0:47:32, 0:47:33]: And you have a nay? [0:47:34, 0:47:35]: I'm sorry. [0:47:37, 0:47:38]: Y you have one. [0:47:39, 0:47:41]: Uh, yeah. [0:47:42, 0:47:45]: And all those against the denial? Please. [0:47:45, 0:47:46]: Uh [0:47:47, 0:47:49]: Is that two too? Mm-hmm. [0:47:51, 0:47:52]: So it is a tack. [0:47:54, 0:48:05]: So I guess I'll do the deciding uh mo uh vote and my vote is to deny the rezoning case RZ twenty twenty-four five-02. [0:48:05, 0:48:11]: Did you did you get my vote? Mine was a no. No? Right. Against against denying it. [0:48:11, 0:48:14]: Yes or no also. No. [0:48:15, 0:48:16]: No. [0:48:16, 0:48:17]: Okay, so it is [0:48:17, 0:48:19]: Three. Three, two. [0:48:19, 0:48:22]: Three to two. So three no's and two uh yes. Okay. [0:48:23, 0:48:24]: Oh, the motion players. [0:48:25, 0:48:29]: So that motion does fail. Um and do I hear a motion? [0:48:29, 0:48:38]: Mr Chairman. Yes, sir. I would move to approve the reverning case what is it, RZ? [0:48:41, 0:48:54]: twenty twenty five dash o two with the following conditions with regard to amenities that we talked about. I would like to uh [0:48:55, 0:48:57]: Remove the term consider. [0:48:59, 0:49:05]: On the additional amenities and I would like to add that the developer be required [0:49:06, 0:49:16]: to choose at least two of the four listed, in addition to the two pavilions that have already been included. [0:49:18, 0:49:24]: Developing all right. I have a motion with two amendments to the recommendation. [0:49:24, 0:49:25]: Is there a second? [0:49:27, 0:49:36]: Uh Chair Chairman, can I speak? Sure. Uh we also need to consider uh fence and some form of uh sound barrier. [0:49:37, 0:49:49]: Uh in that and then I also like to make a statement to the public. Regardless of whether we pass this or not, it still can be passed by the city council. So the uh [0:49:50, 0:50:03]: situation we're doing tonight, we're presenting the case, but it does not necessarily mean that it will go through because the city council has the last say so on what we do on this board at the end of the day. [0:50:04, 0:50:11]: Thank you. Thank you for confirming that this is a recommending body. Uh the council will then vote. But is there a second to the current motion on the floor? [0:50:14, 0:50:15]: A second it, Harold. [0:50:15, 0:50:21]: Right, is a motion by uh Mr. Dumas and a second by Mr Thibodeau. Is there any more discussion? [0:50:22, 0:50:42]: Mr. Chairman, that may not be the right time, but I just want to remind everybody all we're doing here tonight is bringing the zoning for this property in line with the land use plan. We're not approving any developments, we're not approving, you know, any any building going on there construction at this time. We're just approving the rezoning of the property to bring [0:50:42, 0:50:50]: it in line with the land use plan. So you already voted no to do that, so that kind of ends the case. [0:50:52, 0:51:11]: Mr. Staman, let me make a statement real quick. I agree with Mr. Plungin on there in that I I'm really, to be honest with you, a bit confused why we're taking up the consideration of additional amenities or changes to the amenities when we just denied the rezoning. Right. I think that's what we're trying to get to here. Yep. [0:51:13, 0:51:17]: I'm sorry that I didn't hear what he said. [0:51:17, 0:51:18]: So uh [0:51:20, 0:51:39]: He basically just said we denied the rezoning, right? Uh but you do have a motion because we have to act on it. So you do have a motion to we didn't deny the rezoning. I know that's what I'm about to come back to. So we since they did not pass, there is a motion now for the approval of the rezoning case with the two amendments that Mr. Dumas has stated. [0:51:40, 0:51:49]: Which was the removal of the term consider and then also to require something from our developer, correct? For future tense. [0:51:50, 0:51:54]: to add at le at least two of the four minutes that are listed. [0:51:54, 0:52:03]: Okay. So so his recommendation or his motion was to approve the rezoning case uh with the with the [0:52:04, 0:52:19]: order to remove the term consider from recommendation two C when it comes to amenities and then also to make sure that uh developers are not are able to choose two out of four of the recommendations instead of all using all four. [0:52:21, 0:52:29]: First mo motion failed. I think there's some confusion about whether it passed or not. But it's a Oh, great. Yeah. The first motion failed. This is the second motion. [0:52:30, 0:52:31]: So that's it. [0:52:32, 0:52:44]: No, you no you have to vote on on this motion right here, Mr. Planchan. The first one failed. Are you gonna amend something that failed? The the first one the first motion didn't pass. It it uh went down three to two. [0:52:45, 0:52:47]: So now there's a there's a new motion on the floor. [0:52:50, 0:53:05]: Thank you, Ryan. I have a motion and a second on the floor. All those in favor of the motion to approve, uh with the terms listed by uh board member Dumas, please signify by the sign of aye. Aye. [0:53:06, 0:53:10]: Any opposed? Opposed. Opposed. So once again it is three, two. [0:53:13, 0:53:14]: At that point I have to [0:53:15, 0:53:33]: There's some confusion on what Mr. Planchin is voting. Are you voting to deny or approve? Mr. Planchin's motion was to approve with the uh with some conditions to the uh to the recommendation. It's it's two down. It's uh Mr. Dumas and Mr. Tibetal, it's two, and then Mr. Planchon made three, right? [0:53:35, 0:53:42]: So that means three, four, he said no. He said no. Correct. Okay, well This had voted no. This half voted yes. [0:53:42, 0:53:45]: Well no, it's three against two. [0:53:45, 0:53:48]: One, two, three no's and two yeses. [0:53:48, 0:54:00]: Yeah. Mr. Chairman, maybe I suggest and we make sure we do a hand vote. Shows are in the air so everyone can see. So we'll do a hand vote. Um all those in favor? [0:54:01, 0:54:10]: of R Z twenty twenty five dash O two the motion um and second uh with those conditions please signify with your hand in favor. [0:54:13, 0:54:15]: All those opposed? [0:54:16, 0:54:17]: Opposed. [0:54:19, 0:54:21]: So the motion to approve [0:54:24, 0:54:35]: So the first motion should have counted, yeah. The very first motion should have should have been the one that pr that passed to deny. So both motion both motions have failed? [0:54:37, 0:54:40]: No, there the first motion. [0:54:41, 0:54:43]: should have denied it. [0:54:45, 0:55:05]: The first worst motion was a motion to deny. It was three two. Rezoning. Right? We denied the rezoning. Correct. Okay. No. The first motion. No, the first motion was a motion to deny. The first motion, as I understood it, was a motion to deny the rezoning. Right, correct. That's correct. That's what you just said. And that motion. [0:55:05, 0:55:18]: Uh failed. Three two. No, we approved the denial. So we did not. So let me explain why we missed something. Okay. If we didn't approve the denial, then we approved the acceptance. [0:55:19, 0:55:20]: Is that [0:55:20, 0:55:26]: The motion was to deny the rezoning. Right. [0:55:26, 0:55:30]: And that motion failed. And did it pass? No, we did not pass. [0:55:31, 0:55:46]: Okay. So now we're doing one thing. And that motion was to approve with conditions. With two to three of a vote. And that motion failed. [0:55:47, 0:55:58]: Failed also? Yeah. Okay. I I I didn't discount on the second one. Yeah, yeah, so that's why Gordon s uh not Gordon Ryan said that we had to go back to the first motion because ultimately it did not either way. [0:56:00, 0:56:02]: With the votes. I missed something. [0:56:03, 0:56:04]: Okay. [0:56:06, 0:56:26]: So, Mr. Chairman, could you be clear for the board? Yes, sir. So the rezoning failed. Yes, sir. And the second motion with changes also failed. I think we're trying to get on the record. Yes, sir. Okay. Uh so on the record, uh the rezoning did fail. The second motion failed as well as the first motion. So therefore, we go back to the first. [0:56:26, 0:56:42]: first motion with my tiebreaker vote and would take it down to the four to two. And so therefore the art the rezoning tiebreaker is four to it. So no I'm adding an extra point. Are are we lost? Yeah. How how are we confused? [0:56:49, 0:56:57]: 'Cause it's it's two yeah, right. How about if we just um ask each member whether they're in favor or not in favor. Simplify matter. [0:56:58, 0:56:59]: Sounds like a plan. [0:57:00, 0:57:07]: Okay. When I when I say your name, board member, uh please say in favor or not in favor of the rezoning case. [0:57:08, 0:57:12]: Board member Mitten. I am opposed to the rezoning. [0:57:15, 0:57:19]: Uh, thank you. Board member Planchet. [0:57:22, 0:57:29]: I I approve the rezoning. Like I said, it's just bringing that piece of property in line only the zoning in line with the land use plan. [0:57:29, 0:57:32]: That you know, and the city owns the property already, so [0:57:34, 0:57:35]: Vice Chair? [0:57:37, 0:57:38]: I oppose. [0:57:41, 0:57:42]: Board Member Doumas. [0:57:43, 0:57:44]: Our proof. [0:57:46, 0:57:47]: Board member Thibodeau. [0:57:47, 0:57:54]: Uh approved. Right. The rezoning case RZ twenty twenty two dash O five is approved. [0:57:55, 0:57:57]: Three to two. Thank you. [0:58:00, 0:58:12]: So Mr. Chairman, I have uh um those approving are Stanley Dumas, Harold Thibodeau and David Planchon. Those opposed are Tremika Walker and Anthony Minton. Is that correct? Yes. [0:58:12, 0:58:25]: All right. The next item on tonight's agenda is project updates. Do we have any project updates from staff? Uh no, not tonight. All right. Thank you. Uh there are any staff comments? [0:58:25, 0:58:31]: No, not tonight, Chairman. All right. The next item is board comments. Do any board members have any comments to make? [0:58:34, 0:58:42]: I I have one. Please. I I I think we need to kinda create a little bit more clarification because the night was really confusing. [0:58:43, 0:58:49]: As to which way you need to vote and which way you shouldn't vote. I think we uh need to work on the clarification because uh [0:58:51, 0:58:53]: It wasn't good tonight. [0:58:54, 0:58:58]: I'll make sure we work on that board member. Uh any other board member comments? [0:58:59, 0:59:13]: Awesome. I'm gonna I am going to say happy women's uh history month. Uh and thank you to all the women, especially our only female board member on this board for all that you do. Uh with that I'll take a motion to adjourn. [0:59:14, 0:59:17]: Mr. Chairman, this is Stan Doans. I move to adjourn. [0:59:17, 0:59:24]: This is Dave Planchet and I second it. I have motion to second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. All right. Have a good evening, everyone. [0:59:32, 0:59:39]: We can understand I'm going one by one. Now, it's twenty twenty eight PM. What about one?

--- title: Community Zoning Information Meeting date: 2025-03-12 source: 2025-03-12_Community_Zoning_Information_Meeting.wav --- [0:01:23, 0:01:25]: Anyway, prior prior to this [0:01:31, 0:01:44]: Uh again, this is the CCIM meeting for March twelfth, twenty twenty five. Uh welcome everyone. Thank you for coming here tonight. I'm Linda Logan, Senior Planner. I'm in Planning and Zoning Division of the [0:01:44, 0:01:47]: Community development department here at the city of Stockbridge. [0:01:49, 0:02:08]: CZIM stands for Community Zoning and Information Meeting. The city started holding these meetings last summer when the uh new state uh zoning procedures law uh required uh cities and counties to hold these meetings as a chance for citizens to informally learn about [0:02:08, 0:02:16]: zoning cases uh that have come before the city and are to be decided upon later on by the city council. [0:02:16, 0:02:32]: Um prior to this some some applicants were on their own, were meeting with um uh citizens in holding community meetings uh informally and they still may do so, but this is a chance for everyone to come together here tonight. [0:02:35, 0:02:43]: Again, I'm Linda Logan, senior planner in planning and zoning. I have with me also Gordon Linton, another senior planner. [0:02:43, 0:02:44]: Um [0:02:45, 0:02:46]: Let's first talk about the [0:02:48, 0:03:05]: overview of the zoning process just in general to see her at the city of Stockbridge in case uh some citizens are not familiar with that. So how does all of this start? Well a developer or property owner might be interested in developing a property. Um the [0:03:05, 0:03:09]: Uh if a developer does not already own a property [0:03:09, 0:03:18]: uh then the developer would purchase it or enter into a real estate contract with the owner to purchase the property pending zoning approval by the city of stockbridge. [0:03:18, 0:03:20]: Then a site plan is prepared. [0:03:20, 0:03:21]: And [0:03:22, 0:03:26]: the developer within contact planning zoning staff to request [0:03:26, 0:03:29]: A pre application proposal and learn about the merits of it. [0:03:30, 0:03:33]: Uh and then we would talk about the uh [0:03:35, 0:03:40]: different aspects of it and how likely it'll be to pro to be approved. So, um [0:03:41, 0:03:49]: Then they just later would submit a zoning application to the city. And what is included in that application? Well, this is the application form of c itself. [0:03:49, 0:04:05]: uh various legal documents, the site plan, a survey of the property, um there's some signature pages and so on. Uh the applicant might hire a typically might hire an attorney, a law firm to to represent them, usually for a larger case. [0:04:08, 0:04:14]: So as I said, the community development staff would then conduct a pre application meeting with the with the applicant. [0:04:14, 0:04:28]: um to discuss the merits of the application and then once uh application is submitted um process that and then meet the take different steps to meet the legal advertisement we put it ad in the newspaper [0:04:28, 0:04:30]: Uh uh to peer. [0:04:30, 0:04:32]: At least thirty days before the council meeting. [0:04:32, 0:04:37]: Um we list the zoning cases on the agenda to be uploaded to the city website. [0:04:38, 0:04:58]: Uh we prepare a a letter uh to be mailed out to the surrounding property owners with five within five hundred feet. We prepare it and then the developer actually uh or applicant retypes it on their letterhead and sends it out to citizens. Uh and then of course we post zoning signs on the property. Um [0:04:58, 0:05:17]: to try to notify citizens of upcoming zoning cases. The staff then prepares a zoning staff report to analyze the merits of the application based on the unified development code. That's the zoning regulations, makes recommendations, including usually some conditions of approval. [0:05:23, 0:05:31]: And then next, of course, comes the the public hearing process in the first the three meetings. This is the first one, the CCIM meeting. Next, uh [0:05:31, 0:05:43]: Um m next Thursday, March twenty, is gonna be the Planning Commission meeting. Um this is conducted by the Stock Ridge Planning Commission board members. They'll hear the case and um [0:05:44, 0:05:47]: A public hearing will be conducted, citizens will have a chance to speak. [0:05:48, 0:05:48]: Um [0:05:49, 0:05:51]: Whether they uh are in favor or or [0:05:52, 0:06:00]: Not in favor of the project, and then the board members will hold a discussion and then vote on the case. And their vote though will be a recommendation to city council. [0:06:02, 0:06:16]: And then finally there is the city council meeting. These this case that we're gonna discuss tonight will be held on discussed on the April 14th City Council meeting. All citizens are welcome to attend and speak at these meetings. [0:06:18, 0:06:31]: So we're here tonight to discuss one case, rezoning case number RZ 202502. And this is for property at forty-four eighty-two North Henry Boulevard, which is not far from here. [0:06:34, 0:06:38]: There is a aerial photo of the property. Um [0:06:40, 0:06:58]: We sent letters out to uh with little uh letters with uh this aerial photo attached. And uh the property is located at the end of uh Sarissa Drive to the west, uh North Henry Boulevard to the south, and Man uh B Mann Boulevard is just a block away to the east. [0:07:00, 0:07:01]: It's also across from [0:07:02, 0:07:04]: The ending point of Rock Quarry Road. [0:07:07, 0:07:24]: And now the city of Stockbridge actually owns this property. So um so this is a city initiated rezoning. Parcel number S twenty six oh one oh one four thousand. It has approximately fifteen point four three acres. Um [0:07:24, 0:07:29]: And right now the current zoning is S R, which is suburban residential. [0:07:30, 0:07:37]: And the property also lies within an overlay district known as the downtown village overlay district. [0:07:38, 0:07:46]: typically or uh will always overlay district regulations take priority over a property's base district regulations. [0:07:46, 0:07:51]: And also the property has a future land use designation of downtown district. [0:07:51, 0:07:55]: Uh, that's part of the comprehensive plan future vision for the property. [0:07:58, 0:08:17]: So the purpose of the rezoning request is to rezone the property from the SR Suburban Residential District and the Downtown Villa Village Oval District to PUD, which is the Plan Unit Development District, also seeking master plan approval, and it will keep the same [0:08:17, 0:08:19]: Downtown Village Overlay District as well. [0:08:20, 0:08:23]: So why is the rezoning needed? Well, because [0:08:23, 0:08:29]: The uh uh proposal is to build um not only single family homes but also some town homes. [0:08:30, 0:08:33]: The current zoning does not allow the townhomes. [0:08:33, 0:08:36]: Which is why the property must be rezoned to allow that. [0:08:36, 0:08:37]: Um [0:08:37, 0:08:47]: The PUD district is a type of district which allows two types of land uses to exist on the property at the same time. [0:08:48, 0:08:51]: Um and as I said, the overlay district would stay the same. [0:08:51, 0:08:52]: Um [0:08:53, 0:08:58]: And also the proposed land uses would be compatible with the future land use designation. [0:08:58, 0:09:00]: So that does not need to be changed. [0:09:00, 0:09:02]: Okay, here are some maps. [0:09:03, 0:09:10]: Um the one on the left is zoning district. You see in yellow, that's a suburban residential. [0:09:10, 0:09:17]: And to the right is a overlay district, the um lilac area where the star is, subject property. Here's some enlargements. [0:09:18, 0:09:18]: Right here. [0:09:19, 0:09:27]: You can see the outline of the property better. Um, you have some commer the the pink and red colors are for commercial uses. [0:09:29, 0:09:35]: Uh here is the overlay district of map map again. The pink is the downtown village overlay district. [0:09:35, 0:09:39]: purple area is an a different overlay district known as [0:09:40, 0:09:42]: Yeah, that's okay. I need to see you. [0:09:44, 0:09:47]: Known as the Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. [0:09:48, 0:09:56]: Um, here's the future land use map. I mentioned the purple area is a downtown district. That's the future land use designation of the property. [0:09:57, 0:10:14]: We have the survey of the property. Now I do have enlargements of some of these slides if you would want me to zoom in on anything. Um here is the proposed site plan. Actually, I think let me let me pull that up. I have I have those open. [0:10:15, 0:10:16]: So let's see here. [0:10:26, 0:10:27]: Well [0:10:33, 0:10:35]: Okay, survey. [0:10:37, 0:10:39]: This is a survey. [0:10:40, 0:10:57]: uh still kind of small. The city actually owns also two these two small parcels down here to the south. They're both zone C two, which is general commercial. City may develop those at some point, but they are not the subject of this rezoning. [0:10:58, 0:11:08]: Okay. Now let's see. Oh the site plan here. Now here is an enlargement of the site plan. So um here North Henry Boulevard is here to the south. [0:11:10, 0:11:16]: The entrance of the property would be here at at the bottom and there would be a monument sign there. [0:11:16, 0:11:27]: And then um several new streets would be built inside. Right here, Street D. This is actually an extension of Sarisi Sari Sarisi Drive. [0:11:27, 0:11:29]: Okay, so that would be extended. [0:11:30, 0:11:30]: Um [0:11:31, 0:11:41]: You have a cul-de-sac ending up here at the top and a detention pond. So the larger, these larger squares, those would be single family detached homes. [0:11:42, 0:11:48]: And then the smaller ones toward the front of the property would be the townhomes. [0:11:49, 0:11:50]: Okay. [0:11:51, 0:11:52]: All right. [0:12:00, 0:12:14]: All right, so let's let's talk a little bit more about the proposed development. Again, it'd be a mixed residential development, 67 total units on 15.43 acres, that would be a density of 4.34 units per acre. [0:12:14, 0:12:15]: Um [0:12:15, 0:12:21]: Forty two townhomes in the front and twenty five single family detached dwellings at the rear. [0:12:21, 0:12:32]: Okay, I mentioned the entrances uh monument sign. Amenities will consist of two landscape areas with pavilions. Um [0:12:32, 0:12:41]: Lot dimensions, single-family lots will be 55 feet wide and 80 feet deep, townhome lots 24 feet wide by 46 feet deep. [0:12:42, 0:12:43]: The setbacks would be [0:12:44, 0:12:46]: Front yard setbacks at least twenty feet. [0:12:47, 0:12:47]: Mm. [0:12:48, 0:12:55]: Um that's what is proposed, even though the PUD dis zoning does not have any specific setback requirements. [0:12:55, 0:12:59]: Um I mentioned the adjoining parcels a moment ago. [0:13:00, 0:13:00]: Mm-hmm. [0:13:01, 0:13:04]: Now what are the next steps for this development? [0:13:04, 0:13:09]: So staff report is to be prepared actually it's been re prepared by the staff. [0:13:10, 0:13:30]: and um whether to recommend approval, denial, approval conditions or so forth, or d or deferral. And it could possibly be conditions of approval. Most of the cases who have which city council has approved have had various conditions of approval that which must be [0:13:29, 0:13:49]: Be met by a developer. So then the March 20 next week Planning Commission and City Council meeting on April 14th. The City of Stockbridge, as owner of the property, must select a developer and a builder who would then provide further details of the site. [0:13:49, 0:14:04]: plan. Of course there will be an engineer and an architect. And then after everything, if if and when zoning is approved, the developer would submit permit applications to the city for review and approval. [0:14:05, 0:14:22]: Okay, so that concludes my presentation. Would any citizens like to ha ask any questions or make comments? And if any any citizens are listening or watching online, they may contact the uh planning and zoning office if they wish. [0:14:30, 0:14:31]: I guess this is the single family. [0:14:34, 0:14:37]: Would you like to come up here and speak? [0:14:39, 0:14:41]: The people who are using oh gosh. [0:14:43, 0:14:44]: I think. [0:14:46, 0:14:51]: Let me pull up the site plan while you since you're asking about that. Since you're asking about that. [0:14:52, 0:14:53]: Here we go. [0:14:54, 0:14:56]: Okay. Let's see. [0:14:58, 0:14:59]: Them out a little bit. [0:15:00, 0:15:11]: Hello. My name is Quisha and I reside in one of the homes that will be affected by the building of this. I was inquiring because this is my property line right there. What are those dots there? [0:15:17, 0:15:20]: Typically they're trees showing a a buffer area. [0:15:21, 0:15:36]: Okay. Also have another question regarding infrastructure. With this then thing leading out to North Henry Boulevard and now the increase of traffic, what do we have regards infrastructure as far as the traffic that will be increased? [0:15:38, 0:15:45]: So no traffic studies been submitted and typically we don't require one for this small of a study. Um [0:15:47, 0:16:02]: Of course that'll be part of the review at the LDP State Land Disturbance Permit stage. Okay. A lot of times um a deceleration lane is required at the entrance of the property, often it would be off North Henry Boulevard leading into the main entrance. [0:16:04, 0:16:15]: I didn't mention that uh water and sewage facilities would be provided by the city's uh public works department. They're currently evaluating to determine whether or not there are [0:16:15, 0:16:35]: Water and sewage facilities already there at the site, or maybe whether they need to be extended. But uh whatever the case may be, developer would have to to do whatever is necessary to meet those requirements. Last question, I'm sorry, and this may not be the meeting for this. Um because this structure and the houses and the three streets are literally running. [0:16:35, 0:16:36]: Through our backyard. [0:16:37, 0:16:41]: Um, will we be given something such as privacy fences or anything? [0:16:44, 0:16:45]: Um [0:16:46, 0:16:55]: I mean that that is a possibility that that could be requested of the developer to be made maybe a c a condition of approval. That's something to think about. [0:16:55, 0:17:02]: Okay. I know I've said last question but I got one more. With the increased blasting at [0:17:02, 0:17:15]: the rock quarry. How would this this development then affect that? Because it's it it in it has intensified um over the last few years. So with building in this area and the blasting where the windows are shaking on the home. [0:17:16, 0:17:17]: How is this going to affect that? [0:17:19, 0:17:21]: You're talking about the construction? [0:17:21, 0:17:23]: The construction or even [0:17:23, 0:17:29]: Additional homes in the area, will that be affected by the blasting that does the Current Rock very weakly? [0:17:30, 0:17:32]: So are you asking about the [0:17:33, 0:17:53]: Work being done to widen Rock Quarry Road and how that's gonna affect the homes or weekly rock quarry affects our homes. The infrastructure, some people are not on the sediment, some people even getting cracks because of the blasting. So we're now building 67, approximately 67 more homes. Right. How does that then affect us? [0:17:53, 0:17:58]: 'Cause the blasting is not going to stop. So what are we putting in place to protect the homes? [0:17:59, 0:18:03]: From the c during the construction process of the development. [0:18:04, 0:18:08]: I can't answer that question. But you know, of course all'cause [0:18:08, 0:18:09]: All construction [0:18:10, 0:18:20]: Amid some noise and fumes and smoke and those kinds of things, uh temporarily. Mm-hmm. Not even the noise and the smoke, and that I guess that'd be a question for [0:18:20, 0:18:32]: the next meeting because we will be affected again because it's literally in our backyards. Um but it's more so with protecting the infrastructures of the home, preventing cracks that are occurring now in our homes. [0:18:32, 0:18:37]: Because of the blasting in Rock Cray, I don't know how a building additional sixty seven homes. [0:18:37, 0:18:39]: is going to then affect [0:18:40, 0:18:41]: I guess the infrastructure. [0:18:42, 0:18:42]: Right. [0:18:44, 0:18:52]: I I can't address the blasting, but you know, um builders are required to put up, for example, silk fences to contain [0:18:52, 0:19:00]: the property while the construction go is going on, you know, to prevent mud and other things from spilling out to adjacent properties. [0:19:02, 0:19:03]: All right. Well thank you. [0:19:08, 0:19:09]: Are there any other comments? [0:19:17, 0:19:26]: Would you like to state your name and oh excuse me, Mo ma'am, would you like to provide your name and address for the record and and fill out a sheet on the clipboard? [0:19:29, 0:19:33]: My name is Quisha Perpal, and my residence is one twenty seven Bryant Street. [0:19:34, 0:19:34]: Thank you. [0:19:35, 0:19:36]: Okay. [0:19:39, 0:19:50]: My name is Richard Ordonas. I live at one one twelve Man Boulevard with my wife. Uh we've lived for over thirty years, so we've seen quite a bit of change in everything. I have some issues concerning um [0:19:51, 0:19:53]: the development behind our house. [0:19:53, 0:20:09]: Um there's a drainage ditch that runs from it's there's a actually there's a underwater creek out in that area and there's a drainage ditch that runs from Man Boulevard that runs back onto our property and then it goes past our neighbor and it curves back to the city property. Um [0:20:10, 0:20:30]: I'm going to need to know the consideration given to the water flow right there during the proposed constructions. And if this housing property project goes through, how will this city protect the families of the children that live there with that creek there? I'm just thinking a safety issue. Also, I think it was previously mentioned, North Henry Boulevard is. [0:20:30, 0:20:50]: Is extremely congested. Oh, has been congested for quite a while. There will be construction vehicles going in and out of this property, right on Demand Boulevard, right by the light at Rock Quarry. That's gonna back up traffic even more in Rock Quarry and North Henry Boulevard, all the way down to Highway 42. [0:20:50, 0:20:55]: If there's a light added in there which would need to be that would still add more delays'cause this construction [0:20:55, 0:21:02]: vehicles would have to come out of that property as a light. And so the that light would delay the other traffic that's going there right now. [0:21:03, 0:21:03]: Um [0:21:05, 0:21:07]: There's power lines back there. [0:21:07, 0:21:27]: that will need to be addressed because those power lines do not run straight back across that property. They're they go left and right and they're curved back around there. The distance between the power lines and our property is minimal. They cannot build anything like a road or anything between the power lines and and man Boulevard because of the distance. So it has to be on the other side. [0:21:27, 0:21:30]: of the um power lines. [0:21:33, 0:21:50]: Rock Quarry Road is slated to be expanded. I've heard four or five lanes. And if the expansion of Rock Quarry coincides with this property um expansion or this development [0:21:51, 0:22:10]: the traffic there would just be nonstop. I mean I've seen the delays, I've seen all the traffic. It would back everything up to Flippin' Road, North Henry, Highway Forty Two South, Eagles Landing and Hudson Bridge. In any situation that causes delays, as is was experienced recently at Eagles Landing in Rock Quarry near the hospital. [0:22:11, 0:22:25]: It affects the entire areas. Everybody has to find alternate routes. And once they try and find those alternate routes, they get backed up Flippin' Road, Forty Two, Hudson Bridge, Eagles Landing, everywhere. Also, there's very, very limited [0:22:26, 0:22:46]: property for wildlife. We have raccoons, we have possums, we have deer in that area. And they come to our property, they come across goes across the street to our neighbor across the street. Um with all the expansions in the city, they're running out of places to be. So that's a possibility that we may destroy that habitat for that wildlife. [0:22:46, 0:22:47]: Yeah. [0:22:48, 0:23:00]: So there's a lot of things I'd like you all to consider, perhaps in your own time look at these things and maybe come to the meeting on March the twentieth um to express your concerns. And um I'll see you there. [0:23:04, 0:23:16]: I'll just make a couple of comments. Um as far as a traffic light, I don't know whether one is gonna be put at the entrance of this development. There's already um traffic light on North Lee Street. [0:23:17, 0:23:18]: Um [0:23:18, 0:23:19]: Nearby [0:23:19, 0:23:24]: The Georgia DOT has certain distance requirements for between traffic lights, so [0:23:24, 0:23:40]: that would be need to be determined whether it was a sufficient distance uh to put a new one in. Um as far as a Georgia Power easement, of course, um, that would should not be disturbed in any way or encroached upon. [0:23:43, 0:23:43]: Um [0:23:44, 0:24:04]: Also I wanna say just in general it's a lot of citizens always concerned about uh traffic uh impacts. There's uh uh state law which says that um traffic impacts and um school impacts cannot legally be a basis for zoning decisions. [0:24:04, 0:24:07]: Even though there may be concerns that that um [0:24:08, 0:24:13]: development cannot be stopped because of traffic that the Georgia DOT does not [0:24:13, 0:24:13]: Um [0:24:14, 0:24:22]: make traffic improvements ahead of time before developments occur. So that's just a a general comment for citizens. [0:24:33, 0:24:53]: Hello, my name is Doug Fodry. Uh, I live at 113 Man Boulevard. The only concerns I really have is I just moved to this property about a year and a half ago. Um is one is the wildlife, uh, because there's about six deer uh that come up from that wild from that green space that [0:24:53, 0:25:07]: that come up through, across my neighbors, up through my property and back around. So my concern is the impact on the wildlife that we have there. And another concern is, is too is [0:25:08, 0:25:09]: Love the amplitude. [0:25:10, 0:25:28]: But the sound barrier that the trees provide, because my he my house is up on a hill. So during a concert season, certain concerts is I can hear the music in my bedroom. So my concern is tearing down all those trees, is that gonna increase the sound? [0:25:28, 0:25:37]: on my property. So is there, you know, that's my that's my concern of cutting all those trees down. That's gonna cut out that sound barrier from the amplitude itself. [0:25:37, 0:25:47]: 'Cause sometimes those concerts do run late at night and they do get loud. So that's my concern as one of the wildlife and the sound bearer for the amphitheater. Thank you. [0:25:49, 0:25:53]: Okay, thank you. Any other comments or questions? [0:26:09, 0:26:23]: Hi there. I'm Reba Ordonas. I live at one twelve Man Boulevard and I'm looking at the uh schematic and it says that there'll be a Main Street that would run [0:26:25, 0:26:35]: between the housing and our property, uh backing up to our property, what kind of easement is going to be [0:26:35, 0:26:41]: held from our property to the construction and of course the easement of the Georgia Power [0:26:41, 0:27:01]: Uh lines are going through that easement, also right through here. Um, the other concerns I have for the rapid building that's going on in in Stockbridge City is one, infrastructure and two, school zones for the number of housing. [0:27:01, 0:27:04]: that's being built pretty rapidly. [0:27:05, 0:27:25]: And what are the plans of the city to accommodate those? So I hope to hear more about that in the upcoming meeting. Um but I do have concerns about this natural stream that runs between my property and the property that's uh the city owns and the development that is uh about to probably take place. [0:27:25, 0:27:26]: Thank you. [0:27:30, 0:27:36]: Thank you. I cannot a address all those comments, but maybe at the next meeting we'll be able to do so. [0:27:40, 0:27:42]: Would anyone else like to speak? [0:27:47, 0:27:51]: Okay. Uh as I mentioned the upcoming public meetings [0:27:51, 0:28:11]: uh Thursday, March twenty. Now that meeting starts at six thirty and then the city council meeting on Monday, April 14 at 6 o'clock. Uh and then um a month from now we'll have another CZIM meeting on Wednesday, April 9th, 6 o'clock, and that will be for other new zoning cases. [0:28:11, 0:28:14]: that we may be discussing and reviewing [0:28:15, 0:28:34]: And sometimes we also discuss other matters besides zoning cases. For example, recently city adopted new uh zoning and land use maps. So those were the subject of public hearings as well. So occasionally there are other things, but most of the time we discuss zoning cases. [0:28:35, 0:28:35]: Okay. [0:28:40, 0:28:47]: All right, if no one has anything else to say that concludes our meeting tonight. And uh [0:28:48, 0:28:49]: Thank you for coming. We adjourn. [0:28:55, 0:28:58]: Everyone please fill out a clipful. [0:28:58, 0:29:09]: Yeah, the yellows. Are there enough sheets there? Do we need to fill them out for the next meeting or this is meet this for this? Each meeting has a sheet.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2025-02-10 source: 2025-02-10_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:02:41, 0:02:43]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. I have uh six o'clock. [0:02:44, 0:02:45]: So I would like to uh [0:02:46, 0:02:49]: Call a Monday, February tenth meeting to order. [0:02:50, 0:02:54]: And on that note, please stand for the invocation. Uh Councilman Berry, please. [0:02:56, 0:03:16]: Let us bow our heads. Eternal God, our Father, we thank you tonight. We thank you, Lord, for allowing us, God, just this space to discuss the business and the meetings, Lord God, for the citizens and the city of Stockbridge. Lord God, we ask that you would govern us and order our footsteps in your word, Lord God. That Lord God we will look up into the hills from which cometh our help, knowing that all of our help cometh. [0:03:16, 0:03:36]: From you. And tonight, Lord God, we pray, Lord God, for wisdom, guidance, and peace. All this in the name of your son Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. Amen. We're gonna pledge allegiance here. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation, under that. [0:03:36, 0:03:40]: Indivisible. With liberty just for the same thing. [0:03:40, 0:03:42]: Roll call, please, Madam Clerk. [0:03:46, 0:03:48]: Evening. Present. [0:03:51, 0:03:52]: Present. [0:03:55, 0:03:55]: Present. [0:04:01, 0:04:03]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. [0:04:03, 0:04:05]: Councilman Berry, sir, you have an amendment? [0:04:07, 0:04:07]: Yes. [0:04:07, 0:04:20]: Ms. Mayor, uh I wanna make a move that we amend to bring executive session up closer into the agenda first so that we can discuss legal, real estate and personnel matters. [0:04:20, 0:04:21]: Is there a second? [0:04:21, 0:04:25]: So moved. Okay. I may second. Okay, thank you very much. All in favor, please indicate. [0:04:26, 0:04:33]: All right, I'm gonna put that uh after our consent agenda right before we get into old business. It'll be a second session. [0:04:33, 0:04:34]: There as well. [0:04:35, 0:04:36]: Okay. [0:04:37, 0:04:41]: Now we need a motion to adopt the rest of the agenda, please. Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. [0:04:41, 0:04:45]: I'd like to make a request to amend the agenda. Okay. [0:04:46, 0:04:59]: As I emailed all of you, I wanted to amend the agenda to discuss a new policy or ordinance similar to the program that the city of South Fulton has implemented, the Code CARES program. [0:05:00, 0:05:02]: All right. Is there a second to that uh motion? [0:05:04, 0:05:06]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:05:06, 0:05:07]: Exactly. [0:05:07, 0:05:11]: You must bear second that. All in favor, please indicate. [0:05:13, 0:05:33]: Let me have a clarification really quick if I could. Okay. Okay, sir, go ahead please. So Miss Barber, if you would, we gave the chief six months to come up with a program. I'm sorry, Councilman Alexander, this is to amend the agenda to have the discussions. [0:05:33, 0:05:42]: Your questions can be addressed during the discussion. Well if you want me to address the question. So I just want to add this item to the agenda. [0:05:43, 0:05:47]: All right. Motion been made and seconded. So all in favor of the motion please indicate. [0:05:49, 0:05:57]: All in favor of the motion, please indicate. Motion motion fails. All right. Now I need a motion to uh adopt the rest of the agenda uh for this evening, please. [0:06:00, 0:06:02]: I mean so I think is your second. [0:06:03, 0:06:06]: Second. Okay, ms Mr. Berry, second dad. All fair, please indicate. [0:06:07, 0:06:27]: All right, thank you very much. On that note, uh earlier part of the uh evening and we gave the ceremonial review and that was dealing with Black History Month, the proclamation. What I mentioned to the uh individuals that were here earlier is that we in the city Stockbridge have given out proclamations, having given out proclamations all year long for all different types of [0:06:27, 0:06:47]: uh individuals and and uh I guess you say support and assistance to whether it's domestic uh violence month and whether it deals with any other uh nationalities or ethnicities in our community, uh Hispanic Heritage Month, Pacific uh Asian Month, um the once again domestic violence, women's history month. [0:06:47, 0:06:53]: We've always done it, we will continue to do that to support and and acknowledge our community and diversity of our community. [0:06:54, 0:07:14]: Uh so I want you to know that um that we would kind of do that. And actually when we give our proclamations, whether it's here or any other individuals, uh our clerk office does an excellent job because they're always framed. All right, so that's that's a that's a special thing that we do. So we will continue to do that and to uh honor our individuals and uh and our diversity. [0:07:13, 0:07:28]: Within our community. Outside of that, I swore in three individuals to the Stockbridge Youth Council, Ms. Candace Jones, Georgia McIntyre, and Alicia Gables, and they're going to join the youth council. So we accomplished that. [0:07:28, 0:07:30]: Ms. Holliday, do we have any public comments at all? [0:07:34, 0:07:36]: Ms. Do we have any public comments at all? [0:07:47, 0:07:48]: Yeah. [0:07:50, 0:07:51]: Mm-hmm. [0:08:08, 0:08:26]: Okay, thank you, madam clerk. Appreciate that. Council, I have the option of minutes. Uh that's January eighth, twenty twenty-five, the council retreat minutes, January thirteenth, twenty twenty-five, the council minute uh meeting minutes, and also the work session meeting minutes on January twenty eighth. I have a motion to approve those, please. Okay, Mr. Berry to Mr. Alexander. All in favor, please indicate. [0:08:28, 0:08:36]: Okay. Uh you there's staining yes ma'am. Um I did not attend the retreat. [0:08:36, 0:08:42]: I was gonna ask if you could call for a vote with each of these meeting minutes separately. [0:08:44, 0:08:52]: All right, we can do that. What what okay. Okay, the adoption of the January eighth, uh, twenty twenty five council retreat minutes. Uh I need a motion to accept that. [0:08:53, 0:08:56]: Mr. Berry? Second. Okay, Mr. Alzheimer's. Are you all in favor, please indicate? [0:08:59, 0:09:00]: Epstein. [0:09:00, 0:09:01]: I'm sorry? [0:09:02, 0:09:02]: I'm sorry? [0:09:03, 0:09:04]: I can vote. [0:09:04, 0:09:05]: Okay. [0:09:09, 0:09:17]: Well actually I guess that is correct. You know, I'll vote to approve the minutes. Thank you, sir. I'll vote to approve the minutes. [0:09:17, 0:09:19]: Yes, ma'am. [0:09:20, 0:09:23]: [563.5, 566.1]: As votes. It's almost as if we're not here. [0:09:27, 0:09:47]: It has to be two who opposed and two who approved. Okay, so do you opposing or approving? Are you opposing or abstaining? I am abstaining. Okay, so then I don't have a t I don't okay. There is no tie. Okay. I got it. Understand? Got it? But you can consult with the city's legal attorney? No, I don't need no, I don't need to do that. I got it. If you you if you [0:09:47, 0:09:52]: You're standing, you're abstanding. All right? No problem. So otherwise on that, ladies and gentlemen, not [0:09:54, 0:09:54]: Miskat. [0:09:55, 0:10:15]: Mayor for even from my understanding through legal and one of the GMA classes I just took, by the way, that even though I didn't attend the meeting, as long as my colleagues are agreeing that these are the things that are taking place, I can vote in the affirmative You you could. And so I'm gonna go ahead and vote affirmative. I I'll let it pass. [0:10:15, 0:10:24]: Now we're going to adoption of the January 13 minutes, 2025, Council meeting minutes. All in favor, please indicate? Well, first of all, as I'm sorry, is the move? Okay. [0:10:25, 0:10:25]: Mr. [0:10:25, 0:10:28]: Okay, from Mr Alexander Mr. Barrett, please indicate. [0:10:28, 0:10:40]: All right. United decision and also January not twenty sixth, excuse me, January twenty eighth, twenty twenty five, council work session minutes. I need a motion to accept that. Is there a second? Second. Okay from Miss Gantt to Mr. Dallas and I'm fair, please indicate. [0:10:40, 0:10:42]: Okay, now she says, All right. [0:10:42, 0:10:42]: No [0:10:43, 0:10:44]: We good now, Madam Clerk? [0:10:45, 0:11:05]: Thank you very much. Okay, consent agenda. We have a council of consideration appoint a member of the Stockbridge Youth Council Advisory Committee for a two-year term. That's Dr. Elisa Green, and also Council of Consideration appoint a member of Stockbridge Public Facility Authority Board for a four-year term. And that's Miss Talisa Toseka. [0:11:05, 0:11:07]: Thomas, if I got it spelled right or pronounced right. [0:11:07, 0:11:20]: Um that's on the consent agenda. If there is no problem with that, I need a motion to accept these two ladies to join these committees. So moved. Is there a second? I second. Okay, from uh Ms. Gat to Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. [0:11:21, 0:11:24]: Okay, now it's the season. Okay, fantastic. We'll move on. And now [0:11:25, 0:11:28]: Now we're going to a second session. I need a motion to go into second session, please. [0:11:30, 0:11:42]: Mayor, I move that we go into executive session for um litigation personnel and real estate. Thank you very much. Is there a second? Sir. Mr. Alzheimer's second. All favor, please indicate. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back. Thank you. [0:11:50, 0:11:54]: Yeah, and that was gonna go to the I do I think. [0:12:03, 0:12:05]: Got it. [0:12:06, 0:12:08]: Oh who is it? Come on now. [0:12:20, 0:12:25]: I tell you what. Um all right, council, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. [0:12:26, 0:12:30]: So moved. There's Ms. Bar from Ms. Canton, Ms. Bar, all in favor, please indicate. [0:12:31, 0:12:41]: Now I need a motion to reconvene our council meeting. So moved. Okay. Ms. Barber second that as well. All in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. Okay, we'll move on. Uh oh by the way, we have nothing to [0:12:41, 0:13:01]: Audience, we have nothing to report from our second session at this time. So we'll move on with our old business, which deals with a special use permit case sp-2024-02, located in Council District 4. Note this is be considered as a board vote only once um only once the public hearing is already held in November 12th, 2024. [0:13:01, 0:13:10]: Consideration of special use permit request is to allow a liquor store on the property of 106 Rock Croy Road. Applicant GRP LLC agent [0:13:10, 0:13:27]: Okay, Mr. Patel. And the first name is Homdinger for me to r try to pronounce here. The probably located landlock sixty two of District twelve contains point uh zero uh excuse me, point uh eight nine acres. Mr Anderson, please. Uh Mayor, no. Yes. [0:13:27, 0:13:33]: I'm sorry. Can I get the vote count for my request to amend tonight's meeting agenda? [0:13:34, 0:13:43]: I know that it was seconded. I know the motion failed. But I wanted to I didn't get the vote of Councilwoman Gantt or Councilman Alexander. [0:13:44, 0:14:04]: Did they abstain? No. Did they oppose? No, no. I just didn't. Two to two. No, no, no. It's the one the one you uh you abstained from one. What the first one that came up, then what happened is that then then Ms. Gantton voted. So it's three zero one on that first one. Everybody on the first you're talking about for the meeting minutes. No, sir. I'm talking about my motion. [0:14:04, 0:14:05]: Right. [0:14:05, 0:14:07]: To amend tonight's agenda. [0:14:07, 0:14:10]: To discuss the code care's policy. [0:14:11, 0:14:25]: I made the motion. I don't think the motion was Mr. Berry seconded the motion. I just want to hear what the clerk had in reference to Councilwoman Gantt and Councilman Alexander's vote. That's all. [0:14:27, 0:14:33]: Okay, so how do we know if it failed or hold hold a second let miss Gray Miss Holdi? [0:14:42, 0:14:43]: Todo [0:14:45, 0:14:53]: You voted in favor as well? Oh you did vote in favor? I voted I saw that you seconded the motion, but I did not see where there were any vote. [0:14:54, 0:14:55]: Oh, I select the hand holder. [0:14:55, 0:15:04]: So may I ask Councilwoman Gantt and Councilman Alexander what their vote is? The vote. Whether they're abstaining or opposing. [0:15:06, 0:15:19]: I asked for more information initially I said that I would vote against it because I did not have the information that I had requested. Okay, so and Miss Cand, I would think uh [0:15:21, 0:15:22]: Well, honestly [0:15:24, 0:15:32]: I thought that this wasn't the right day and time to discuss it. I think that if you're gonna discuss it maybe in work session w we have a [0:15:33, 0:15:36]: quite lengthy public hearing agenda. [0:15:36, 0:15:45]: In addition to that, we did already speak with the police department and allow them to have six months to get [0:15:46, 0:15:49]: their program and process in order [0:15:49, 0:16:09]: So I wanna give them that opportunity that I actually I was actually the person who asked that uh that we give them that chance. So I wanna give them that opportunity to get that in order first. Um but I uh that was number one and number two, I just think that it should be on the work session agenda. Right. [0:16:09, 0:16:16]: So otherwise, uh Ms. Mr. Washington, it looks like we have a, I mean, I thought we documented this, it looks like we had a two-two tie on this. [0:16:17, 0:16:25]: All right, so if that's a two two tie then uh if that's the case. I just need clarity on what their vote is. Are you opposing amending the agenda? [0:16:25, 0:16:28]: Are you abstaining from amending the agenda? [0:16:28, 0:16:48]: In adding this item for discussion or not, that's that's all I want. Just clarity. What on what their votes are. You the motion was made by you, second by Mr. Berry. You and Mr. Berry voted uh affirmative, why now Ms. Gantt and Mr. Alexander voted uh down. And so two times. Yes by opposing? Yeah. I opposed for today. Okay. I I did. [0:16:48, 0:16:53]: Okay, so I'll just bring it back during the work session. [0:16:53, 0:16:54]: Thank you. [0:16:54, 0:16:57]: Well wait a minute. Is it is it not a two two tie? [0:16:57, 0:17:03]: Okay, then I I vote to turn it down as well, make a three two. That's my vote, and then let's move on. Okay? Three two and let's move on. [0:17:03, 0:17:12]: I Mr. Anderson, it's on you, sir. Uh at the last council meeting we had um we had the public hearing process uh for this item and all that is left is uh the vote. [0:17:14, 0:17:22]: Okay. Uh I any pr other presentation, d uh any other attorneys or any other information for presentation on this issue? [0:17:22, 0:17:23]: Voilà, make a vote? [0:17:24, 0:17:25]: Did you want to come forward, ma'am? [0:17:26, 0:17:27]: Okay, name and address please. [0:17:29, 0:17:49]: Lisa Moore shower for Mr. Patel and his entity. Um we would like very I'm sorry. Is it is it on? I just wasn't near it. Thank you. Okay, thank you. Um I did send a chronology of based on the last council meeting when y'all asked some questions. I sent a chronology of I went through all [0:17:48, 0:18:08]: The ordinances that were related to the lottery, and I sent a chronology with all the times that I thought were important for you to understand what had happened. Um, so in March, March 26th, 2024, the city council voted through an ordinance to um ordinance number OR 24560 to um enact a lottery to allow for [0:18:08, 0:18:28]: To allow two more licenses for the city because the population had grown and that's what your code says. So I gave um I don't know if you have the exhibits, but A and B, one A is the minutes of the meeting and B is the actual certified copy of the ordinance, which we which we've gotten from the clerk's office. [0:18:28, 0:18:48]: And then on April 6th, based on that ordinance, um there was a legal advertisement stating this stating the streets for which the licenses would actually be allowed to be applied for. So in the legal ad on April 6, 2024, it specifically said Rock Quarry Road and Jo Jodico would be the two streets. [0:18:48, 0:18:50]: Про впливаються воді акте. [0:18:51, 0:18:53]: Анден африта хапан. [0:18:53, 0:19:13]: The city did some additional um notices to the applicants, potential applicant pool who were going to apply for the licenses. And then there there was some information put on the website on April 17th, 2024. And then on May 1st, 2024, my clients applied for a spot on 106 Rock Court. [0:19:13, 0:19:28]: Road in in compliance with what the ad had said and what the information from the city had said. And then on May 3rd, 2024, another second notice went out to the applicant pool with some additional information from the city. [0:19:29, 0:19:32]: And I didn't give you that information in your pac in the packet, but um [0:19:32, 0:19:43]: But it did mention that there had to be a specific address in the applications that were submitted to the city. And my client had put his address in there, but I think the city had had gotten some [0:19:43, 0:19:46]: Аплікація з дитинтам. [0:19:46, 0:19:53]: And that wouldn't wouldn't be very helpful as you're s pursuing and parsing through the applications to figure out which one would meet. [0:19:53, 0:19:55]: And comply with the code section. [0:19:56, 0:20:03]: So then on June seventh, all the applications had to be filed by the end of the business day. And my clients had already been filed, so he was in. [0:20:03, 0:20:08]: And then on July thirtieth of twenty twenty four this council had a meeting. [0:20:08, 0:20:18]: um where it enacted um two things it enacted an ordinance um or twenty four seventeen twenty four which expressly approved [0:20:18, 0:20:38]: Rock Quarry Road and Jodico Road as the two locations for which additional applications would be accepted for alcohol licenses. And they're listed in the code in that legislation. They're named in it. And then there was a resolution, R241724, which specifically approved Mr. Patel, my client, and another [0:20:38, 0:20:58]: Another Mr. Patel's applications for processing. So that night was really important for my client because y'all voted for those two locations to be on those streets, those two new locations to be on Jodico or Rock Quarry Road. And my client is on Rock Quarry and he's in the in the area which was allowed and approved. And that was one of the things. [0:20:58, 0:21:18]: That came up last or the main thing that came up last at last city council meeting was that Councilmember Barber said she didn't know that that was that the address was uh approved, but it was done through an ordinance and it was voted on unanimously and it was listed in the legislation. So I and my applic my client's application also listed the code. [0:21:18, 0:21:20]: I mean the address. [0:21:20, 0:21:40]: And the legal ad also had the address. So I think there's a a lot of information that was given about which addresses could be could be utilized or which streets could be utilized for new licenses. Um so that so there was also a question from um Councilmember Gantt about the work on the property. I also submitted an email um from [0:21:40, 0:22:00]: My client to Ryan Anderson that some said that um no he had done no work outside uh I'm sorry, no work inside the property. He only had done work outside the property with with now he's got the tree permit um that he needed to get for the the business that was cutting the trees down. So no work has been done that was not permitted. [0:21:59, 0:22:07]: I just wanted to be make make that clear. And I submitted pictures of what had happened in the back. And that's the only work that's happened. So [0:22:08, 0:22:22]: I I'm happy to answer more questions, but we feel like if if you don't approve this application, you're violating constitutional rights of my client. I've I've submitted an um constitutional objection statement, but I think that it would be [0:22:22, 0:22:42]: A going against your own code, which you've already approved and legislated, you've approved these two locations. My client meets those requirements. He meets all the requirements of the alcohol code as well. Um, I know he still has to go through that process, but this SUP is the beginning of that process, and y'all approved, you have opened it up to get. [0:22:42, 0:22:52]: two new licenses and my client applied for one of the spots that's legal for your city because you approved it. Y'all you have already approved this location as being [0:22:52, 0:23:12]: uh in the street or on the street that was approved for a license for a new license. So it would be unconstitutionally um violative of his rights, his due process rights, his equal protection rights. It would be a taking of his property. It would be in violation of your your duties as council members to deny it based on the based on the [0:23:12, 0:23:27]: the location for sure. And I've I've said everything else in my uh statement of objections a couple of times ago that I submitted. So I think I'm I'm done unless you have questions. Well right. So any questions at all, Council? [0:23:28, 0:23:29]: Anybody? [0:23:31, 0:23:34]: Okay, no questions. Is there a motion to uh approve this or not? [0:23:37, 0:23:48]: And I just want to make sure my new documents get into the record. I did give them to our c your clerk. All right. But it's um a memo it's a memo I wrote with the timeline and then exhibits A through F. [0:23:50, 0:23:52]: I need a motion to approve or deny. [0:23:54, 0:24:12]: Sir. Yes, sir. I'll make a motion to I make a motion to deny this application that has been brought forth to us. Um and that's my motion. Thank you. Is there a second of the motion? Second. Mr. Berry, second. All favor please indicate. [0:24:13, 0:24:14]: Nam's decision. [0:24:15, 0:24:15]: Is denied. [0:24:16, 0:24:17]: Thank you. [0:24:18, 0:24:18]: Public hearing. [0:24:21, 0:24:32]: Please mute uh all cell phones or other electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. [0:24:33, 0:24:44]: After each case is called the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant of or their representative regarding the proposed plans for property along with or any other relevant information. [0:24:44, 0:24:54]: The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor or oppose the case will have the opportunity to do so. [0:24:54, 0:24:59]: Each side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time may be extended at the discretion of the council. [0:25:00, 0:25:12]: Please keep comments and presentation professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. Please refrain from any applause or comments from the audience during the public hearing. [0:25:13, 0:25:21]: After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer and never to members of the council, staff, or the audience. [0:25:22, 0:25:27]: All comments will be made from the podium where you will be required to state your name and address for the record. [0:25:28, 0:25:48]: Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Fair to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the building by law enforcement if you deviate from these proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part of his or her speaking time as a rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the [0:25:48, 0:25:51]: the entire ten minutes allow for the pro side of the application. [0:25:51, 0:25:56]: If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address these questions and and or concerns. [0:25:56, 0:25:58]: The presiding officer will call for a motion. [0:25:59, 0:26:08]: And a second to the motion and have any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, presiding officer will call for a vote to recommend approval or denial of the request. [0:26:10, 0:26:12]: First item for public hearing. [0:26:12, 0:26:13]: Item number four. [0:26:13, 0:26:18]: The docket is adoption of the twenty twenty five official zoning and land use map. [0:26:18, 0:26:19]: Citywide. [0:26:20, 0:26:40]: Consider me consideration and adoption of the twenty twenty five official zoning map and twenty twenty-five future land use map to be a compliance with the Unified Development Code, UDC, which includes the city zoning ordinance. Mr. Ryan, please. Excuse me, Mr. Anderson, please. Uh what I have before you tonight is um [0:26:40, 0:26:52]: the recent changes to our all the recent rezonings, um land use changes and an annexations that have occurred since the last time we adopted the zoning maps. So [0:26:53, 0:27:13]: On what you see on the screen is the list of is uh a spreadsheet of all the changes. All these changes were approved by council through rezoning, um, annexations, and um land use changes. So all I'm all I'm doing come all I'm all I'm doing tonight is coming before you to ask you to adopt uh the twenty twenty [0:27:13, 0:27:15]: Five lanes and uh rezone him out. [0:27:17, 0:27:28]: Okay. Council, any questions for Mr. Anderson at all? Yes. During these times here, it is critical because I'm everybody tuned in and everybody who bothered to show up. [0:27:28, 0:27:37]: Is that these decisions sometimes are very difficult for us. And understanding that there is a plan. This is the plan, right, Mr. Anderson? [0:27:37, 0:27:55]: Yes, sir. So what we do is we try to get with together with consultants, the staff, consultants, and experts to put together the best program after a series of public meetings uh over time, because we had numerous public meetings on the comprehensive plans, correct? [0:27:55, 0:27:55]: Yes, sir. [0:27:56, 0:28:06]: so that the public could give input and feedback on what they wanted to see the community look like. This map is actually required under the we're under the under the law, correct? [0:28:06, 0:28:26]: Yes it is. And the reason that we do this and again we have lots of public participation so that the public can weigh in on what you want the city look to look like. Because when developers come to us and they apply, they're applying based on what you said as the public and the consultants and [0:28:26, 0:28:46]: The staff put together to under the legal requirement. Many times our hands are tied in terms of what we wanted to see there, so we tried to make sure that we came up with the best scenario possible in order for us to be able to maintain the quality of life for us. Many of y'all have questions. [0:28:46, 0:29:06]: About how do we end up with their warehouse over uh on Candler Road. Well, there was already zoned for that way well before any of us took a seat up here. Well in I think it's 1999 or 2000. So that was long before us, and there was nothing that we could do about it to uh actually end up in that situation. I just like to make [0:29:06, 0:29:26]: Perfectly clear what we're doing is we're putting together the plan on what on how we're going to move forward with development in the city of Stockbridge. After numerous public meetings, the staff and consultants sat down and tried to meet the legal requirements for us to put forward. [0:29:26, 0:29:34]: This thing called the flume, which is the f future land use map, dictates who can build what and where. Is that correct? [0:29:34, 0:29:38]: That's correct, sir. Okay. Thank you. Any questions from Mr. Anderson? [0:29:41, 0:30:01]: Okay, so this is uh a public meeting, so I need to open for any comments. You ha you are right right now, sir. Yes, sir. I just wanted to let you know that the planning commission approved this. Okay, thank you very much. So I need uh anybody this public hearing, so anybody that has any comments uh for this, comments for this on my far left side. My far left side, I need for you to stand up and uh [0:30:01, 0:30:07]: uh on and line up in this sign and it'll give you the time to speak. Anybody in the middle have any comments for this? [0:30:08, 0:30:18]: Anybody in my far right comments for this? Seeing nothing. Anybody comments against this, okay? My far left side. Any comments against? Anybody against in the middle? [0:30:19, 0:30:24]: Okay. Stand by one second, please. Anyone in the farm? Right side. [0:30:24, 0:30:30]: Okay, you're the only one. Comments uh against this particular project, this approval. Name and address please. [0:30:30, 0:30:50]: Good evening. My name is uh Jocelyn Williams, 190 Banks Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia, 302 81. Um, excellent job. My uh opposition is I would like to know that whenever plans are made that the public would like to know and make um comment. [0:30:50, 0:30:56]: Comments about water, quality, soil and infrastructure. Thank you. [0:30:57, 0:30:57]: Thank you. [0:30:59, 0:31:00]: Mr. And Mr. Anderson, please. [0:31:06, 0:31:09]: Water soil and infrastructure. You can have that, sir. [0:31:09, 0:31:29]: Yes, sir. Uh I'll let our let it's taken care of during the due diligence process before uh a LDP is issued or before a building permit is issued. And also when they submit their rezoning application, they have to get a uh a water letter from Henry County. And when they go to the LDP phase, they have to send their um their plans to Georgia Soil and Water. [0:31:29, 0:31:43]: water conservation and they have to approve them. So they check out on the s they uh do a a review of the soil samples and uh the water is done by the the issuing water authority, whether it's Clayton County, Heron County or City of Stockbridge. [0:31:43, 0:32:03]: All right. And those have to all be done even prior to us them coming to us or prior to coming to the land commission, right? Well some of uh the water is done before it comes to you, but the other uh the water quality and I mean um the erosion control is is taking place. That that d that uh review takes place during the l land disturbance permit phase. Okay. So it's [0:32:03, 0:32:16]: Everything is checked out before they start the bill. All right, thank you, sir. Yes. All right. Uh well on that note, Council, that was the only comment, uh need a motion to to approve if that's the case. So move. Okay, Mr. There's a second. [0:32:18, 0:32:20]: Mr. Barrett, second, all favor, please indicate. [0:32:22, 0:32:42]: Okay, you now have your series. Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Okay, we'll continue on public hearing. This deals uh the next three items deal with council district five. Annexation case AX-2024-02 for one seven seven eight and one-eight seven two highway forty-two north. Once again, council district five consideration. [0:32:42, 0:32:50]: of annexation requests for two parcels at one one excuse me one seven seven eight and one eight seven two [0:32:50, 0:32:59]: Highway 42 North to allow for the construction of a mixed-use development, which would contain single-family detached homes, townhomes, bungalows, and commercial uses. [0:32:59, 0:33:09]: Owner Rowan Properties LP, Applicant Millich, Meredith, Holmes, C O Clay Kirkly, Agent Halen Todd, PEC. [0:33:10, 0:33:25]: The property is located landlock 35 in district seven, contains forty-eight point five nine five nine acres presented by, well, Mr. Addison will present this. Once again, on the comprehensive plan amendment case, CP-2024-09. [0:33:25, 0:33:29]: for the seventeen seventy eight and eighteen seventy two highway north. [0:33:29, 0:33:34]: Once again, Council District Five Consideration and Comprehensive Plan Amendment Request. [0:33:34, 0:33:54]: To assign for the future land use designation of medium density mixed use of two parcels at 1778 and 1872 Highway 42 North after their annexation into the city of Stockbridge from unincorporated Henry County to allow for the construction of a mixed-use, mixed residential development, which would contain a single-family detached. [0:33:54, 0:34:14]: Homes, townhomes, bungalows, and commercial uses. Owner, Rowan Properties LP, Applicant Meritage Home CO, Clay Kirkland, Agent Haley Todd, PEC. The property located landlock 35 in District 7 contains 48.59 acres. And also the rezoning case, RZ-2024-2. [0:34:14, 0:34:23]: 10 for two parcels once again 1778 and 1872 Highway 42 North, Council of District 5, consideration rezoning request. [0:34:23, 0:34:27]: to assign the zoning districts uh for PUD Plan Unit Development. [0:34:27, 0:34:31]: And PMU Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. [0:34:31, 0:34:51]: Of two two to two parcels at 1778 and 1872 Highway 42 North after an annexation of the city of Stockbridge for unincorporated Henry County to allow for the construction of mixed residential development, which would contain a single family detached homes, townhomes, bungalows, and commercial usage. Once again, owner Rowan Properties LP, Meredith Home, CEO. [0:34:51, 0:34:55]: Clay Kirkley, Agent Haley, Todd, P E C [0:34:55, 0:35:15]: Properties located in landlock 35, district 7. Contains 48.59 acres. Now, Mr. Anderson, on you, sir. Okay. Thank you. Um I'll present the annexation portion first. Um currently the current use of the property, there's an existing house. It's located at 1872 Highway 42 North. The property is 17. [0:35:15, 0:35:18]: [2118.4, 2123.7]: featuring featuring a stream on the northern po parcel and also includes a house and a cemetery. [0:35:24, 0:35:31]: The current um zoning is RA like the mayor previously mentioned, and the uh land use is high density suburban. [0:35:32, 0:35:40]: Here's a vicinity map of the um of the area. And highlighted in red is the is the subject property. The subject properties that we're discussing tonight. [0:35:42, 0:35:45]: And uh also as the surrounding businesses. [0:35:47, 0:35:51]: Okay, here's the aerial photo of the uh with the site plan. [0:35:55, 0:35:57]: Here's a survey of the parcels. [0:35:58, 0:36:02]: Here's proof of the signs, uh where s signs were posted. [0:36:08, 0:36:20]: Uh Meritage Home seeks to annex two parcels located at seventeen seventy eight and eighteen seventy two, Highway forty two north from unincorporated Heron County to Stockbridge for mixed use development. [0:36:20, 0:36:40]: The development will feature 168 units, including 71 single family detached, 15 bungalows, and 82 townhomes, with a density rate of 4.2 units per acre. The proposed square footage for the bungalows is 3,500 feet with a front yard setback of 10 feet and a rear yard setback of 5. This is strange. [0:36:42, 0:36:42]: Here's another [0:36:44, 0:36:45]: version of the site plan. [0:36:47, 0:37:00]: Here's a colored version of the site plan with the layouts. As you can see right here, by my cursor, this is where the single fam 71 single family detached units will go. This is where the 82 townhomes will go. [0:37:01, 0:37:04]: And the commercial component will be located on this side. [0:37:04, 0:37:04]: Mm-hmm. [0:37:12, 0:37:15]: Here's some renderings of the of the of the potential homes. [0:37:20, 0:37:25]: Um the Planning Commission recommended approval and staff also recommended approval for the indexation. [0:37:27, 0:37:32]: Now I'll go into the comp land p uh portion. Here's a copy of the um the land use map of the area. [0:37:36, 0:37:43]: This is a joint future land use map of the area, including Henry County and um City of Stockbridge land use categories. [0:37:51, 0:37:53]: Uh staff recommended approval of the um [0:37:55, 0:37:56]: Of the complain. [0:38:09, 0:38:10]: Okay. [0:38:11, 0:38:31]: Uh as you can see the surrounding land use densities. You have um the Mouse Point subdivision, which has 125 units with a density of 1.71 units per acre. The summit of Eagles Landing, they have 308 units with a density rate of 1.96 units per acre. You have Clark Meadows, they have 141 units with a density of 2.7. [0:38:31, 0:38:51]: You have Eagles Hills with 80 units with a density rate of 4.08 units per acre. Magnolia at Eagles Landing, they have 189 units at 1.84 units per acre. You have Winding Creek with 118 units at 3.06 units per acre. You have Crown Walk with 30 units. [0:38:51, 0:39:11]: with 1.10 units per acre and you have vine yards at Eagles Landing, 215 units with 2.3 units per acre. And the proposal has Meritage Homes project has 168 units with 4.2 units per acre. So as you can see that um the densities are not out of the proposed density is not out of line. [0:39:11, 0:39:17]: As a result, um staff recommended approval of the land use change as well as the planning commission. [0:39:26, 0:39:46]: Uh now that applicant uh I will go to the rezoning portion. The applicant is seeking to rezone to PUD from uh Henry County's mixed use development. Uh PUD is the similar zoning uh that the that the city has, similar to uh Henry County's mixed use development. And as required by code, uh you have to assign a a zoning designation that is similar. [0:39:46, 0:39:48]: to the existing zoning from the county. [0:39:55, 0:39:59]: So here here's another copy of an aerial photo. Highlighted in blue is the site. [0:40:03, 0:40:03]: Um [0:40:07, 0:40:25]: So staff recommends the Planning Commission recommended approval and the staff recommends approval to assign the PUD with conditions. The subject property shall be developed similar to the site plan that was submitted by the applicant on January twenty-first, twenty twenty-five. The bungalow lots located on [0:40:25, 0:40:27]: Lots one through fifteen of the site plan. [0:40:27, 0:40:28]: Shall be three sided brick. [0:40:29, 0:40:49]: A landscaping plan shall be submitted. A ten foot external sidewalk and an eight foot internal sidewalk shall be installed. The building facing the street on campground road shall be three-sided brick. The buildings labeled dining penteo on the site plan must adhere to the parking standards found in section four point one eight of the Stockbridge Unified Development Code. [0:40:49, 0:40:53]: No more than one hair salon, barber nail salon shall be in the commercial section. [0:40:53, 0:40:56]: No event centers, no gas stations shall be allowed. [0:40:56, 0:41:08]: The applicant must combine the two parcels located at 1778 and 1872 Highway 42 North. In addition, no permits shall be issued by the City of Stockbridge until the developer provides a copy of the recorded plan. [0:41:09, 0:41:10]: So the applicant is here. [0:41:10, 0:41:30]: Okay, before we get to the applicant, then counsel, we got any specific questions right now from Mr. Anderson before we get to the applicant. I just wanted to make a statement, if I could. Sure, go ahead. This process has been a long and uh played out. We asked them to come back. Initially, this process involved a 100% residential neighborhood. [0:41:30, 0:41:50]: Certainly that was not the desire of the community. We wanted to uh actually bring a mixed use product and they we suggested that that's what would be brought forward. Uh, because in the area and let me let me be transparent and clear, this is right down the street from my house, which uh on Campground Road uh is basically about um [0:41:50, 0:42:10]: Maybe about a mile or less than a mile from my house. So when people say you make these decisions and you put this in somebody else's neighborhood, or you put this somewhere else, no, these rezonings happen very close to us, and we have to make these decisions in the best interest of the entire [0:42:10, 0:42:30]: Public because that's what our charge is to do. And Mr. Anderson just showed us what the map was gonna look like for the future land use map. The project that was brought forth for us, and I had some comments that were made: was you know, this is what you know, they wouldn't do this in COVID. [0:42:30, 0:42:50]: County. As a matter of fact, this is exactly what they did in Cobb County. If you look at the map uh for the Willowcrest neighborhood over in Mapleton, the townhome product is very similar to that and basically meets the same standards, such as the bungalows uh as well. So if you were looking at uh [0:42:50, 0:43:10]: what the standards look like in some of the northern territories. This is what the same product that we would get here. Too many times we get product that is not uh on that same level, but this product uh certainly is. And when I say that this product is close to me, it is. The property is because this is located right across the street. [0:43:10, 0:43:30]: from the food bank that we operate. So I'm very familiar with this property and understand that the homeowner has been living there for as a house over there and their desire is to move on from the property. And certainly that is uh the intention uh and we are trying to do the very best that we can [0:43:30, 0:43:50]: to work through and with the developer and the community to try to strike a balance to get the very best uh neighborhood that we possibly can. And I think uh what you will see come forward uh is quality and certainly that was the pre that was the number one goal here and certainly [0:43:50, 0:44:10]: The desire was to have a tenant such as a grocery store in the area, not just neighborhood uh type of development. And I think we discussed some additional changes as far as uh earlier today, which is under the highway corridor plan, which is what we this is a highway corridor. [0:44:10, 0:44:30]: Corridor neighborhood, correct? Yes, it's located in Parkway. Make sure you're right in the car in the parkway corridor neighborhood. The neighborhood has the the community has a restriction. The neighborhood parkway has restrictions on various buildings that can or cannot be located there, correct? Yes, sir. That's correct. Also we have a distance limit on certain businesses like [0:44:30, 0:44:41]: Like nail salons, uh barbershops and salons, is that correct? Yes sir, and pawn shops and within within one mile of this location. Yes sir. There's three barbershops. [0:44:42, 0:45:02]: There's two nail salons and there's three hair salons within one mile already today. So the city's prohibition on those um particular instituular um requirements would be in place here today in order for us to be able to to move [0:45:01, 0:45:12]: for cause certainly the desire is understanding to strike a balance. And I think we have some discussion about the grosser because the highway park parkour corridor [0:45:13, 0:45:33]: Prohibits gas stations directly from being located there, correct? Yes, sir. But we gasoline coming up. We did certainly as we did with Costco, uh along the Parkway corridor. If you open up a substantial business where gasoline is a secondary item, not the main purchase, like it [0:45:33, 0:45:53]: The convenience store, gasoline is like the top item that people stop there for. If a Kroger wanted to locate it here or Ingalls wanted to locate here, Aldi or Ingalls, like y'all have on Walt Stevens over there, they could install gas pumps there, but nobody else could just open up a convenience store here under the requirement. [0:45:53, 0:46:13]: requirements that we will have in place here because that's going to be part of the conditions on what we do. And certainly neighborhood uses and the restrictions on the um highway corridor are there for a reason so that we can get uh high standards in doing what we need to do in order to uh move forward. [0:46:13, 0:46:33]: Now, certainly we understand uses as I indicated earlier. Certainly you're gonna have things like sit-down restaurant where you have a restaurant without a drive-thru, or you might have a restaurant in the area, because there aren't any restaurants between McDonough and Stockbridge right there in that location. You may have a fast food restaurant there. [0:46:32, 0:46:52]: Certainly, that would be appropriate as a neighborhood use for the generic for the area, along with some office as well. So there's been a lot of push and pull. It wasn't just us signing off on what we had here. We went back and forth to look at various renditions. [0:46:52, 0:47:09]: And I think especially the townhouse product and the bungalow product, I don't think we have that anywhere in the city uh at this time right now. And the bungalow product is the one that's gonna be three side brick, is that correct? Yes, there there's example there's an example of one I put on the screen. [0:47:10, 0:47:30]: Okay, so certainly we will go through that and let the applicant make their case for what needs to be done uh here uh as well. But I wanted the public to know that this we sent this back because initially we weren't happy with what came forward and now we're moving forward to try to um work the balance between [0:47:29, 0:47:49]: Between what the neighborhood desires and then the developer. Uh Meritage has built several neighborhoods, the Winding Creek neighborhood, the Winding Creek Townhomes, and the Eagles Hill neighborhoods that are there uh in the area as well. Matter of fact, in twenty seventeen that was the first neighborhood that [0:47:49, 0:48:09]: We as a council uh were able to rezone when I took a when I gain when I came on the council. The road wasn't even there yet. So that was part of the planning. So thank you. No problem. Council, any other questions you have for Mr. Anderson right now? If not, okay then the applicant come forward, name and address and uh [0:48:09, 0:48:12]: Have you pr uh present your presentation? [0:48:12, 0:48:13]: Please. [0:48:28, 0:48:48]: Can I ask a point of clarification before we get started real quick? Sure. Um we're doing them combined, the the three. I mean, in terms of the time allotted to speaking to, you know, we have the land use, the comp plan, and then the zoning, they're combined. They're combined in your presentation, but guarantee we gotta vote on them separately. [0:48:48, 0:49:08]: No doubt, no doubt. I just wanted to be sure in the presentation. I can cover everything. Okay, you cover everything. I'm pretty sure the council have plenty of com may have comments for you. And then of course the public has an opportunity to speak as well. Absolutely. Uh Kenneth Wood 350 Research Board, Peachtree Corners, Georgia. So we're excited about this project, as as uh you actually heard. We've we've first kind of approached this as we started looking. [0:49:08, 0:49:28]: At the area as an all-residential deal. When we first were looking at it, we were thinking on the corner for towns. And then as we actually were able to hear some different comments, we started rethinking about what it what it could be. So what you're going to be proposed with tonight is a mixed use that we think is really well fitting. And we'll talk about exactly how that works. [0:49:28, 0:49:35]: networks, how it fits into the transportation network, how it fits into the surrounding network, and actually how it fits into the site. [0:49:35, 0:49:38]: Um as well. If you're looking at the site here. [0:49:38, 0:49:58]: old campground and are you guys able to see this on the screen? We got it on the So this is this is the northern part and so you have the creek that runs down here on the side. You have campground, the relocated campground that runs through. And there's traffic improvements that have been done as part of that relocation. So we wanted to make particular attention and I'll I'll point this out as I zoom into [0:49:58, 0:50:08]: it about really what we're trying to do, where we're trying to set those access points coming into the property and making sure that we're set up for a successful project for entrance into it. [0:50:09, 0:50:14]: This is the uh proposed zoning for the PUD. As you can see, there's there's quite a few of the PUDs in the area. [0:50:15, 0:50:18]: Um this one also is kind of interesting when you're talking about the comp plan. [0:50:19, 0:50:39]: When we actually first um submitted and started talking about the comp plan change, I was I I was kind of caught off guard that we needed the change because in Henry County it was high density and that we needed to go down down to medium density into into coming into the city. I was I was I was thinking it would it would translate. Um but it it made sense when we looked at our final density that it was [0:50:39, 0:50:59]: Actually fitting into the medium. So that's why we're requesting that as it's coming from Henry is high density. It can't translate as high density because we don't meet those thresholds. So that's the reason that we're here for the comp plan change coming into the mixed-use overlay for the site here. This is the uh parkway of mixed-use overlay that are. [0:50:59, 0:51:10]: here and as you can see as you go up 42 as you head over toward all the way over you going toward Costco that is the theme is when you're up on that frontage what makes the most sense obviously it has additional restrictions. [0:51:11, 0:51:31]: It has a additional quality that is put in there. And so that was the suitability that we wanted to see for the side. And as I just mentioned, this is the medium uh mixed use that is in the area coming over from Henry into here. And then this was our concurrency here, which is basically where we touch uh the city uh at the corner. [0:51:31, 0:51:35]: Let me see if I can I'll kind of start on the top uh for the plan. [0:51:36, 0:51:50]: The total is forty-eight acres. It is divided on the north track and the south track. Uh this is the creek that was spoken about. And so we actually kind of ended, we have additional buffers up here, additional buffers here, but we also have the creek. And so [0:51:50, 0:52:10]: You know, distance from the single family detached homes on the north to the single family detached homes that you would see just off your screen to the north uh east of the site is substantial. You know, you're probably talking about from backyard to backyard, probably 250 to 300 feet, close to a football field in terms of distance from there. Uh we were careful to [0:52:10, 0:52:30]: To make sure we have stormwater management. We know and hearing from a couple of people that we talked to, just make sure we wanted to do good stormwater management so we have the ponds that can accommodate that. And so on this north side, it was very particular about where we wanted to put the access. This is campground that runs here. You have the [0:52:30, 0:52:50]: median that starts here, we have to do as part of what we've looked at from from traffic is left turn lanes and D cell lanes. And so that's the full uh turning movements that have to be installed on our site. And as part of that, we needed to be able to start back here and then that gave us good site distance for installing these so that you can see around [0:52:50, 0:53:10]: Around this bin from the access point and see this way as well. On the north, these are the single family detached that would be here. Those would consist of ranch homes as well as two-story family homes. The other part to this, basically on the east side, there was kind of a little remnant piece, but the topo setup. [0:53:10, 0:53:30]: Well, we had first looked at it as like a small cul-de-sac, but when we got into it, it didn't really make sense to just have kind of three lots kind of orphaned over by themselves on that side. And so we looked at it and thought what it would be a good little medical office, dentist office, something for neighborhood uses uh that could be here at this location. It also set up really [0:53:30, 0:53:34]: well for a circular parking lot and then access coming onto campground. [0:53:35, 0:53:39]: Uh jumping across the road, one thing you'll notice on the on the plans we tried to articulate [0:53:40, 0:53:54]: is all of our frontages, we have the requirement for the multi-use trail as well as a sidewalk internally. And so you'll see that throughout. We have sidewalks throughout the development. We also have the multi-use trail throughout all of the frontages that you're seeing on the plan. [0:53:54, 0:54:14]: And so this is our this is our plan where we cut across from highway 42 over to campground. And so this would be basically a public feeder road here, has some parallel parking off of it. But this road is basically what can feed into the commercial, as well as you have a right in, right out here and here that can feed in here. So it sets up well for. [0:54:14, 0:54:34]: Or basically a grocery anchored, like we mentioned, if it is a large enough anchor, it potentially could have the pumps with it. But we also envision this as having other neighborhood uses where it could be restaurants, it could be office, it could also be different types of retail uses for sale. It's a really good corridor with the [0:54:34, 0:54:54]: The residential uh that is coming in and the quality of it, it sets up really well. It's almost 10 acres of commercial uh that is on this property and sets up, as well as a lot of open space back here. So if this end cap ended up being a restaurant, you could have this outside space if you're waiting or doing things that could have a little bit of a green space. [0:54:54, 0:55:14]: Setting there, uh stormwater management as well. Uh jumping over to the residential. So we really, really thought about this after we got the comments is trying to deliver several different types of product types to the community. Not just one type of product type, but we actually have four. If you think about it, there's four different kinds, and so we have [0:55:14, 0:55:34]: uh attached homes that are here. Uh these can be found. If you if you do want to see this, you can actually drive to Cobb County to what's now the city of Mapleton and see Willow Crest. It's a development over there off Floyd Road. It's really beautiful. Actually my um client here, Meritage Homes, is the developer of that. And this that [0:55:34, 0:55:54]: Was kind of the idea in going to this. So these townhomes are a little wider. When you see the pictures I'll bring up, these are 26 feet wide. So they are several feet, if not four to six feet wider than a lot of the townhomes you'll see. These are the bungalows. And so this is a really unique product. I have not seen this product delivered. [0:55:54, 0:56:14]: By actually any other builder. It's really unique. And there's there's 16 of them. They are rear-loaded, which means if you're driving down 42, you'll see the front of them behind the landscaping. And you would not see the garages. The garages are from the back side. And then if you drive through the rest of the way here, there's two different types of single-family products in here. You can have [0:56:14, 0:56:34]: have if a if a customer wants a ranch home, a one-level home, uh they can offer ranch product as well as the two story uh family homes that you see. Uh we have a large amenity. Uh we're looking at a cabana, a pool, uh uh some type of sport court. We're trying to analyze if if pickleball or bocce or like a pavilion outside grill, what would be [0:56:33, 0:56:53]: The best to be there as part of the marketing, but we set that centrally. So whether you're in the bungalows through here, there's sidewalks around the whole property, it's very centrally located, but also away from the commercial. So there's privacy if you lived in your home in this. All the homes we tried to create basically the wide home. [0:56:53, 0:57:13]: So that we have the public dimensions, even though they're private. So they have all the street trees, the street lights, and everything for it. It is 168. We actually have more detached than we do attached. We have 86 detached and 82 attached homes. The commercial is upwards of 80,000 square feet of commercial. [0:57:13, 0:57:33]: That can fill the space. And it has a great relation to the comp plan when you look at it and just thinking about driving down the street from it. These are some of the homes we were looking at and all the different types of, it's all substantial material that you would see in the homes, as Ryan showed you some. The townhomes out at Willow Crest, more single-family homes. [0:57:33, 0:57:53]: Family detached homes varying of styles, uh, bungalows getting into here, some of the ranch homes with the little front porches, some of the bungalows that have a big front porch and upper front porch. And then here's some pictures actually from Floyd Road, which is a very similar road to Highway 42. It's about the same size and coming down. And so these are some of [0:57:53, 0:58:13]: of the frontages and want to be able to kind of bring these up and and kind of bring two two things uh just to kind of talk about it on the plan. One is um on number number seven, obviously if we can have the ability, if it is a grocery uh anchored to be able to have the the the gas pumps because it's a part of the program. Uh [0:58:13, 0:58:33]: If they do that, if a grocery that large comes. And then on number two, one thing we'd like for you guys to consider. If you saw the elevations at Willowcrest, on the it the condition on number two says uh uh brick on three sides, but what really looks really good is like one house will be brick and then the next one's stone. [0:58:33, 0:58:53]: And so you you'll see that stone. And so we don't want to sometimes if you do all brick, it can get kind of monolithic looking down through there. And so if we can have the ability to have that as has has have that as stone too, and maybe even board board and bat just on the top, 50, that we we'd love to just have the ability because of what some of the how [0:58:53, 0:59:13]: How how great Willow Crest on these came out to be where, see this is a brick, but then this is stone and we were just worried. And then you've got some board and bat with the front porches. And so we just wanted to just ask because we've we've seen what it can look like if you're able to mix it in so that each house has kind of its own identity. And so that would be the only [0:59:13, 0:59:25]: change to the um conditions of staff. If uh you guys could uh think about those that would be fantastic. And with that, I can take any questions or I have uh several members of with Meritage Homes with us. [0:59:25, 0:59:45]: No problem. Appreciate your presentation. I meant to do that right now. I'm pretty sure we'll have some different questions for you. But uh in in my com my thought process is brick versus stone, if you wanna utilize and mix it up some, I'm fine with that. But the council's gotta make decisions. You don't want everything to look the same. And you know, dress right dress. You want to you know, have some tr differ types of traction there. But anyway, they'll let you know. [0:59:45, 1:00:05]: All right. Okay, thank you. Yes, sir. Certainly, I think we had discussed this particular issue. The front, the front facade can be a mix of materials. What we've done in the past is, because all of the townhomes are attached, sure, that we will want the ones um visible from the right. [1:00:05, 1:00:25]: To be brick on the ends so that when someone was coming or passing down 42 or campground, they would see the end unit and the end cap would be brick on the side. But the front facades are flexible. Okay, okay, awesome. We just think it'll look you know good the next time. Right. The ones that Ryan mentioned on the bungalows, however, we're seeing [1:00:25, 1:00:45]: Certainly want to stick with that. That's right there on Campground Road. I mean on uh Highway 42. Certainly that would be the exception and that would be uh three-sides brick on that. You've mentioned already that we have the 10-foot multi-use path, which is along campground road and along highway 42, which will offer us some. [1:00:45, 1:01:05]: Uh, you know, which we don't have any sidewalks there now. Uh it is my hope that the city has$500,000 in T Splos, that we could actually connect those existing neighborhoods, Winding Creek and Winding Creek townhomes, to this development with the T Splos funds that we have. [1:01:05, 1:01:25]: via multi-use trail, which is a 10 foot, so that people could actually leave leave out of Winding Creek or leave out of Winding Creek town homes and not get in their car. They could literally ride their bike or a golf cart or something across there and they would be able to do that. That is the desire uh for the community here, but I'll let my colleagues ask [1:01:25, 1:01:45]: any questions uh that they may and then we also uh had uh imposed that we would have the 30 foot setback um uh for the product uh that is consistent with what we've done with other town home products at all flop cameras at the just our normal our flop cameras at the entrance [1:01:45, 1:01:49]: [3710.2, 3726.6]: I feel like I'm missing something. Street lights will be a c street light as well. Street lights, barrier tree barriers. Um uh to prevent growth of the roots messing up the sidewalks. Um and then [1:02:07, 1:02:22]: Um what am I missing? That's a pretty much the flock camera, the street lights, uh pretty much consistent with that. We got the multi use path in there. Yeah, and now we we require all of our townhomes to have double car garages, correct? Okay. So we're good. [1:02:23, 1:02:25]: So those are of those are identified in the conditions. [1:02:26, 1:02:28]: Come to Mike, please, Ryan. [1:02:31, 1:02:32]: Well this. [1:02:33, 1:02:44]: Planning Commission added two, but they're already in our code, but I read'em in the record just uh they had a condition for uh a ten percent rental cap and a HOA, but that's required by code anyway. [1:02:45, 1:03:03]: Right, that's already uh uh that's some confusion. That's in the code right now. Right. So that's what we would have. They're agreeable to that. That's right, sir. You're agreeable to the rental cap. Okay, sorry. And um the other things that council member gamp uh recommended, that's part of our new uh um design standards too. Oh perfect. [1:03:04, 1:03:15]: All right. And okay, one clarification. The street lights are the metal street lights that we discussed and the the staff would get with them on what they look like, right? The decorative street, metal street room. [1:03:15, 1:03:16]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, Mr. Baird. [1:03:18, 1:03:28]: Okay, metal street lights. You you said we're talking about that's what you you're good with that, sir? Yeah, it's in the ca I've seen I've seen them. They're part of on the committee. [1:03:29, 1:03:32]: I will wait until after the public comments. [1:03:33, 1:03:35]: Okay. [1:03:35, 1:03:42]: Corrector. Yeah, so additionally, when we started, when this was all residential, how many units was there? [1:03:43, 1:04:03]: Uh two hundred and two eighty eight. Two eighty eight. So basically what we did was we transitioned this from two hundred and eighty eight units to the commercial component and now we're down to one sixty eight. So we've reduced the units over one a hundred and about a hundred and twenty, correct? That's correct. [1:04:03, 1:04:16]: And the density here is not high density by our cart Ryan or by our chart. This is medium density. Uh uh on the lower end of the medium density. Yes, yes. This is the lower end of medium density, it makes use residential. [1:04:17, 1:04:37]: Absolutely. So let's be consistent clear and consistent. This is not high density but and folks understand this too. When it was in Henry County, it was high density, right? Yes, it was high density residential. Right. So basically this is down zone to medium versus what it would have been had it been in the county at high density, correct? Yes, I'll mix use. [1:04:37, 1:04:41]: So uh medium density starts at four units per acre and it's right at the bottom of it. [1:04:41, 1:04:43]: Absolutely. All right. Thank you. [1:04:44, 1:04:56]: Any questions, counsel thus far? We're good? All right, on that note I'm gonna open it for public hearing. So I'm gonna start on my very left side. Anybody that f um of comments for forest development. Comments from my very left side. [1:04:58, 1:04:59]: In the middle, in the common floor. [1:05:00, 1:05:01]: My very right side. Comments four. [1:05:02, 1:05:06]: All right, so I remember my very left comments against uh against this particular development. [1:05:07, 1:05:16]: All right, in the middle and comments against. This line up on that side with comments against. My very right, and comments against. Okay. Please sir, come to the mic and uh your name and address. [1:05:17, 1:05:34]: Yes, uh good afternoon. My name is Willie Carter, uh 123 Wilson Avenue. Um the the problem without a lot of these projects y'all be presenting, to s y'all do a lot of substantiating to other counties. And and what I mean by that, you're not comparing apples to apples, you're comparing apples to oranges. [1:05:34, 1:05:43]: True enough, Cobb do does do that. For my I'd be privy to it by being contractor work, with I see what they do, they don't do any development unless the infrastructure is there. [1:05:44, 1:05:48]: If the infrastructure's not supporting what you're trying to plan to present. [1:05:48, 1:05:49]: They don't do it. [1:05:50, 1:06:07]: So again, I I don't know I don't understand why y'all presenting all these new developments when the infrastructure is not there. Flipping doesn't have the inf infrastructure. 138 Tojotico doesn't have the infrastructure. So again, if the infrastructure is not there, why you keep presenting these new developments? [1:06:07, 1:06:10]: Thank you. Yes, ma'am. [1:06:12, 1:06:13]: Name and address, please. [1:06:18, 1:06:38]: Um Jocelyn Williams, one ninety Banks Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia, three oh two eight one. Am I doing opposition to annexation? Compensate altogether? Yeah, if you've got any comments on annexation, comprehension plan, rezoning case. If you have comments on all those, they're fine. No comments against that, I guess. Uh comments against annexation, company comprehension. [1:06:38, 1:06:58]: Comprehensive and rezoning. My concern is Birch Creek Elementary is a brand new school, first one in Henry County in 10 years, and it's already overcrowded. It opened in August. My concern is once again for the schools, the 168 homes that [1:06:58, 1:07:18]: That will come on a two-lane road of um Fort Highway 42. Um, that would be my concern that the mixed-use specific uh I'm gonna use um caliber car wash. I called last year and asked what would be built. They said a car wash and it had room for other things, but they didn't tell me specifically. [1:07:18, 1:07:38]: Specifically, what it is. In 2025, I now know it's caliber car wash, small hamburgers, and it's um urgent care. So I was just concerned about the mixed use, the needs, and the specific things that will be built all into the comprehensive plan amendment, um, and the annexation, everything is thrown. [1:07:37, 1:07:54]: in but as I watch trying to make sure I get copies of everything so I can keep up with the excellent job that everyone is doing, I just have to do opposition because I need the infrastructure, the schools and the traffic to be included. And I thank all of you so very much. [1:07:54, 1:07:57]: Thank you. Ryan, could you come back to the point, please? [1:08:00, 1:08:04]: We're assuming that you layer two did you five. [1:08:05, 1:08:07]: Who s oh this gentleman? [1:08:07, 1:08:10]: For against. Now did you ask if they were against on this side? [1:08:12, 1:08:22]: Well yeah he did all he Oh okay I'll you did all three already. We're uh we're gonna uh we're gonna vote on individually. Infrastructure. I don't know if can you answer in reference to infrastructure data can [1:08:22, 1:08:41]: As it relates to traffic, uh the city of Stockbridge is is for it can't uh can't use traffic as a determining factor in approving or disapproving rezonings. There are only two uh places in the state of Georgia right now, and that's Gwinnett and the City of Atlanta metro area that can use traffic as a um [1:08:41, 1:08:51]: as a criteria to deny rezonings or zoning actions. But Stockbridge is not one of the areas that can do that. So when we do our zoning analysis, we don't we can't really take traffic into consideration. [1:08:52, 1:09:09]: North schools. Okay. North North Schools, yes, that's correct. Right. That was gonna get there next with North Schools and the mixed use development. I guess uh we've already I guess uh applicant already talked about all the different types of things potentially scheduled to come or or to be there to mix use part of that process besides the living quarters and businesses. [1:09:10, 1:09:11]: Can you expound on it at all? [1:09:11, 1:09:30]: Um we don't they haven't exactly determined what type of businesses will come, but um they want to anchor their re their uh the retail component of this with a grocery store. Okay. So and they will have eight thousand square feet of office space and they will have um um [1:09:30, 1:09:47]: I'm not sure the exact breakdown of the retail, but it's like seventy two thousand square feet of retail altogether. So, um they will have several restaurants, um maybe sit down restaurants. And um but they haven't they haven't decided what type of business is the name of the businesses that will come yet. Okay. [1:09:47, 1:09:55]: Can can the applicant come back up and maybe spound on it just just uh uh you get a chance, sir. Just to kinda spound on that possibly. Just to make sure. [1:09:59, 1:10:19]: So as uh as the as the project starts to build out, what we have envisioned is that this here uh would be um would be office most likely because it's more s tucked into the neighborhood. Okay. It has good parking, so more, you know, dentist office, medical office, uh law office, uh something that you would [1:10:19, 1:10:26]: you know, it expect kind of in a in a kind of going back into the suburban area uh that would be there. Uh up here, um [1:10:27, 1:10:47]: We showed a grocery this is a little bit of a smaller grocery. Uh this could end up being a larger grocery and just one out, you know, just one out part. It could be because if you we one of the larger groceries which uh they are um looking at right now, it would take up m you know most of the site and it would be a new grocery with some retail beside it and and mostly [1:10:47, 1:11:07]: Uh but the under this scenario right here, uh this was we were looking at like a lethal Aldi size uh grocery uh that would have different type of shops here, as well as uh restaurants and potential that this could be like a little outparcel over here, uh, but everything would be neighborhood scale. You know, there's no automotive, there's no, you know, as as conditions. [1:11:07, 1:11:23]: nail shops, any any of that, pawn shops. Uh this is all neighborhood scale retail. And so, you know, if if approved, we'd immediately start moving toward that that, you know, moving toward finding what those retailers are and seeing if the grocery was going to grow to the bigger grocery or be more of the boutique size. All right. [1:11:24, 1:11:28]: Council, any other questions that you want to ask the gentleman here? Real quick, Ryan, come back to the point of [1:11:29, 1:11:30]: Mm-hmm. [1:11:33, 1:11:53]: As a part of this development, this council has endeavored in this area is in the highway corridor. Yes, sir. Parkway mixed use overlay. And this council has established very high standards for what the parkway corridor is, right? Yes sir. Can't have any truck stops there, can't have any warehouses there, can't have [1:11:53, 1:12:10]: have any um vape shops and that kind of thing with the distance restrictions and all of that. Yes. Is that correct? Yes sir. So certainly we have already prescribed what we don't want at this particular location. And I think uh we were going to add car washes too, right? [1:12:10, 1:12:13]: Uh car washes are already prohibited. [1:12:13, 1:12:33]: Core washes are we did add it. Okay. So sir, so we understand that everything that you guys have told us, we've added restrictions on that. Matter of fact, we're one of the only communities in Henry County to have those restrictions on various businesses with distances, mileage restrictions. So the the applicant has [1:12:33, 1:12:48]: been amenable to that and has agreed to abide by what those court highway corridors plan standards were. So and understand the last thing I want to say is understand this ladies and gentlemen is that something is going to go at this location. [1:12:48, 1:12:56]: And that's kind of where we are right now. Something is going to be built here. And what we do is Georgia is a property rights state. [1:12:57, 1:13:17]: People can sell their land to different developers. Just like they sold this particular piece of land to this developer, they could have sold it to somebody that we had to fight in court to fight off a warehouse or fight off something that we did not approve of. So sometimes what you do, and I'll repoint back and I'll close by saying this. [1:13:17, 1:13:37]: Winding Creek, the neighborhood that's on Campground Road now, had an industrial zoning, which means a warehouse could have been built on that Winding Creek property under the old industrial zoning. So we took the neighborhood in order to change the zoning to mixed use to prevent an unwanted. [1:13:37, 1:13:57]: Use from being located there. So sometimes just playing chess over here, then playing checkers and understanding what we got there is represents quality and that's kind of where we are now. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, and on that note the public hearing portion for public comments is ended that, but we'll continue still a public hearing, but that portion has been closed since the [1:13:57, 1:13:58]: [4439.4, 4450.0]: So what I have now is uh annexation case AX dash 2024-02 for 1778 and 7 uh 1872 Highway 42 North. [1:14:10, 1:14:30]: Council District 5. Consideration of an annexation request of the two parcels at 1778, 1872, Highway 42 North to allow for construction of the mixed-use development, which would contain single-family detached homes, townhomes, bungalows, and commercial uses. Owner, Rowan Properties, LP, applicant, Meritage Home CO, Clay. [1:14:30, 1:14:45]: Kirkley, Agent Haley Todd, PEC. Properties located in Landlot thirty five district seven, contains forty eight point five nine acres. Uh council, I need a motion to approve this uh development. So moved. Is there a second? [1:14:46, 1:14:50]: I second. All right. From Miss Razaner to Miss uh [1:14:51, 1:14:53]: Can't. Yes. [1:14:55, 1:14:56]: Yeah, I'm taking an order, yes. [1:14:58, 1:15:05]: Yeah, since Okay, I'm I'm I'm in taking it in order. All right, so motion was made in the second long favorite, please indicate. [1:15:07, 1:15:10]: Okay. Posey. [1:15:10, 1:15:24]: This is a yes, sir. That's this is the only answer. Yes, sir. You approve. Okay, so that's the unanimous decision. All right. Thank you, Council. Uh comprehensive plan amendment case CP two zero two four-zero nine for seventeen seventy-eight. [1:15:25, 1:15:28]: eighteen seventy two highway forty two north. Once again council district five. [1:15:29, 1:15:44]: Consideration the Comprehensive Plan Amendment request to assign to future land use designation a medium density mixed use to two parcels at seventeen seventy eight, eighteen seventy two Highway forty two North, after their annexations in the city of Stockbridge from an unincorporated Henry County. [1:15:44, 1:15:53]: To allow for the construction of the mixed residential development, which would contain single-family detached homes, townhomes, bungalows, and commercial uses. [1:15:53, 1:16:13]: Owner Rowan Properties LP, applicant marriages home, CEO Clay Kirkley, uh Agent Haley Todd, PEC, properties located in Landlock Thirty Five, District Seven, contains forty eight point five nine acres. Council need a motion to approve this plan. Ryan, one question real quick for Ryan. I just want you to go on the record again. [1:16:13, 1:16:33]: This particular zoning before the annexation was at high density in Henry County, correct? Yes, the land use was high density residential, yes. Right. So basically they came to us to down zone this to medium under our standard. That's what we're doing. We're changing it from high density Henry County down to medium density stock bridge. [1:16:33, 1:16:35]: Yes sir. [1:16:35, 1:16:36]: Is there a second? [1:16:37, 1:16:46]: Mr Holly smokes. Berry. Berry. I'm sorry. Got a mental minimum lapse there. Mr. Berry, second now. All in favor, please indicate. [1:16:47, 1:16:49]: Mayor I have a comment. [1:16:49, 1:16:52]: Okay and you pose? One second. You oppose or sustain, Miss Barber? [1:16:53, 1:17:04]: I abstain. Okay, three zero one motion passed. What's your comment, ma'am? Uh I just wanted to notify those who are concerned that um [1:17:05, 1:17:08]: Some of the reasons we do what we do now. The roads are wider. [1:17:08, 1:17:22]: So that, you know, when we d we've dealt with parking on the street in the past, we've dealt with different things and so in those subdivisions and those planned communities now, the roads are wider, our sidewalks are wider, they're no longer [1:17:22, 1:17:35]: Sidewalks there trails enough to you know not just walk but ride bikes and and and uh pathways that we're connecting. So we are thinking about the infrastructure as we go. [1:17:36, 1:17:43]: based off of what we have to deal with. And um and I just think a lot of times we don't [1:17:45, 1:18:00]: emphasize it enough, but we can't a lot of times we can't control stores. And a lot of times we can't tell you what stores are gonna be here. There are a lot of non-disclosures, right? They don't want you to know. We can't, and that's part that's all a part of economic development. However [1:18:01, 1:18:09]: Like Councilman Um Alexander had mentioned, we've done everything in our power to make sure that we restrict [1:18:09, 1:18:14]: certain stores from being in close proximity to each other so that we don't have [1:18:14, 1:18:15]: What [1:18:15, 1:18:19]: You know, five or three or two of the same stores right beside each other. [1:18:19, 1:18:24]: So we've done I think we're doing a great job at that now, but we are planning our developments. [1:18:25, 1:18:29]: Um for higher standards in regards to [1:18:30, 1:18:33]: the types of products, stone and brick and you name it. [1:18:33, 1:18:47]: And the width of the roads as well as the width of the sidewalks. So we consider all of those things. And you gotta think about it. When you have those things, sometimes the prices are increasing, but not only that, what store is gonna go there? [1:18:48, 1:18:53]: Right. And so we have that commercial component, you know. [1:18:53, 1:19:04]: uh they've gotta match that area. And so I just wanted you guys to get ahead, you know, kinda get a better um understanding of what that looks like. [1:19:04, 1:19:23]: Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. So sorry that you didn't acknowledge me. I didn't see you, but go ahead with your comments. Go ahead with your comments. Mr. Anderson. Go ahead with your comments. Mr. Anderson, the conditions, are they um tied to the comprehensive plan or the rezoning? Uh they're tied to the rezoning. [1:19:23, 1:19:26]: Okay. I'll hold my questions until then. Thank you. All right. [1:19:26, 1:19:35]: Mr. Alzheimer's go ahead, please. Yeah, thanks. I appreciate it. Uh certainly we want to make sure that we're doing everything and so the public is aware. [1:19:35, 1:19:41]: This council did everything possible in order to get infrastructure and road dollars to Henry County. [1:19:41, 1:20:01]: Two billion dollars is coming to Henry County. Mayor, you remember we went to the uh the town hall or the charrette for Highway 42, because it's gonna be widened from McDonough all the way to Stockbridge. And we showed up and we said, we want that 10-foot path on one side and five-foot sidewalk on the other side, just like y'all do. [1:20:01, 1:20:09]: Do on the north side. It's going to take a while. And the history of this is the people that had these seats 20 years ago. [1:20:10, 1:20:30]: They could have gotten transportation dollars for you, but they didn't want the community to grow and they tried to stand in the way of it. As a matter of fact, they teed off GDOT so that we wouldn't get dollars to come to the community. This previous uh administration, along with chairwoman Carlotta Hurrel in Henry County, has secured two billion dollars. [1:20:30, 1:20:50]: To widen almost every road around here. But because of what happened in the past, all of our projects are at the bottom of the list. Now, the project that you're seeing from Hudson Bridge Road onto Jonesboro Road is now underway. That project was approved first in 2018 and is just now getting underway. [1:20:50, 1:21:10]: But it'll provide four-lane highway from Hudson Bridge Road to Jodico through the middle of the mixed-use development down to Jonesboro Road. Highway 42 is going to be widened from McDonough to Startbridge, but it's going to be in the year 2030. So it's going to be a while because we just secured those funds. [1:21:10, 1:21:24]: when we got on when we got in into office. So it takes seven to eight years before anything else would happen after that. We're doing everything that we can to get these transportation dollars here as quickly as possible. [1:21:24, 1:21:35]: Matter of fact, got a phone call tomorrow with uh Congressman Osau or Senator Ossoff's office about trying to get some paving dollars for uh Eagles Landing Parkway. [1:21:35, 1:21:55]: Tomorrow, that's right, because we're doing everything that we can to assist and to move forward with transportation dollars uh for the community. But please understand this highway is going to be wide and it's going to take time. But in this plan here, the developer they're gonna have to add deceleration lanes and acceleration. [1:21:55, 1:22:06]: acceleration lanes as traffic improvements to this area so that folks don't have to slow down, they can get into the the the D sell lane and they can turn into the neighborhood. Is that correct? [1:22:07, 1:22:27]: Yes, that's correct. And when they're leaving the neighborhood, they don't have to pull right out into busy Highway 42. They'll have an acceleration lane there. And for correction, Highway 42 is three lanes in this area, not two. And this is what's coming, but it's going to take a while because we have like I said, we've done everything that we could to [1:22:27, 1:22:32]: to move forward, but certainly understanding is there gonna be some patience. [1:22:32, 1:22:38]: As a matter of fact, Highway forty two is being widened right now from the Walmart [1:22:38, 1:22:58]: Highway six to I-675 exit two uh in a fifty million dollar project. Rock Quarry Road will start widening as well later on this year. We'll start having Rock Quarry Road widening. So many things are coming to us. Many things are coming. So let's be patient and understanding that things. [1:22:58, 1:22:59]: Things are happening here. [1:23:00, 1:23:20]: Thank you. All right. Okay, we'll move on. Rezoning case RZ-2024-10 for two parcels at 1778 and 1872 Highway 42 North. Once again, Council District 5. Consideration of rezoning request to assign the zoning districts of PUD plan uh [1:23:20, 1:23:29]: Development and PMU Parkway mixed use overlay district of two parcels of 1778 and 1872. [1:23:30, 1:23:45]: Highway 42 North after their annexation into the city of Stockbridge from unincorporated Henry County to allow for construction of missed mixed residential development, which would contain single family detached homes, townhomes, bungalows, and commercial uses. [1:23:45, 1:23:58]: Owner Rowan Properties LP Applicant Meritage Home CO Clay Kirkley Agent Haley Todd PEC. The property is located landlock thirty-five in district seven and contains forty eight point five nine acres. Okay. [1:24:02, 1:24:06]: Need a motion to approve this uh to vote this rezoning case. Yeah. [1:24:06, 1:24:07]: Yes, ma'am. [1:24:08, 1:24:09]: Yes. [1:24:10, 1:24:20]: My number um the applicant, Mr. Wood, mentioned number seven and a grocer. Was that clarified? Um number seven. Seven on the [1:24:22, 1:24:24]: Come come to the mic, please, sir, so we can hear you. [1:24:24, 1:24:26]: It it's conditioned on the site plan. [1:24:30, 1:24:39]: I know there was a lot of discussion on it, but I wasn't sure what the how the final condition would read. If it said if it's a grocery anchored center, it is allowed to have pumps or [1:24:40, 1:24:46]: Yeah, we got we got a we got um legislation coming up after this to address some of those. [1:24:47, 1:24:52]: Well this would uh it'll be more than this. [1:24:53, 1:25:13]: [5113.2, 5113.6]: Yeah. [1:25:13, 1:25:16]: Well the preponderance of their um [1:25:18, 1:25:38]: In their their revenue would be driven from other products other than the gasoline station like the Costco. Right. And the staff would draft and legal would draft the the appropriate language. How would how would that how do you have any idea how you verb the verbiage uh just the legal idea how the verbiage would be? Um we'll we'll say um d that [1:25:38, 1:25:53]: that we'll identify that parcel on the site plan and say that it should be a grocery store and uh that the major portion of its sale it can have a gas pump if the if the majority of its sales come from other items beside gasoline sales. [1:25:54, 1:25:56]: Well just like something like that. [1:25:57, 1:26:03]: All right. You you have that I do have another one he got. Go write it, please. [1:26:04, 1:26:07]: You had another one? Yes, uh uh number two. [1:26:10, 1:26:14]: of Hasley Alexander mentioned the right of way lives. [1:26:18, 1:26:20]: You had that anyway. [1:26:21, 1:26:25]: The inn units of the town homes will be brick facing the public uh view. [1:26:29, 1:26:32]: We can send you the notes tomorrow. Go Gordon's taking notes too. [1:26:41, 1:26:41]: Yes, ma'am. [1:26:47, 1:26:48]: Yes, ma'am. Mm-hmm. [1:26:49, 1:27:00]: And we need to strike that one about the barbershop, all of that. We've already discussed that. Uh it's under the highway park co corps. Yeah, they'll be banned. So you're saying Yeah. [1:27:02, 1:27:07]: Ms. Barber has a question, Mayor. Uh no, go ahead, please. Ms. Barber, do you have a question? [1:27:08, 1:27:19]: I have a series of questions. Thank you, Mayor, for acknowledging me. You're welcome. Um so Mr. Anderson, can you tell me how many entry and exit points are there [1:27:20, 1:27:22]: On to Campground Road. [1:27:23, 1:27:24]: Um [1:27:25, 1:27:26]: One. [1:27:30, 1:27:32]: Cause I'm looking up at the very top. [1:27:33, 1:27:38]: I see uh I see when is that correct? Four oh, it's four. Four. [1:27:38, 1:27:47]: Que them out to me. Because I only see two. It's four. That's the main one. One two. [1:27:47, 1:27:57]: Only specifically to Campground Road. Sure. So Campground has a limited that means right in, right out, to get into the retail faster so you clear the lane. [1:27:58, 1:28:10]: Uh it has one coming into the primary, uh, retail and residential here as well as this side. That's three and the one, two, three. And then over here on the little office it has its own little entry. So that's four. [1:28:11, 1:28:27]: Thank you. Yeah. How about highway forty two? I just want to make sure I'm looking at this right now. It does too. It has a limited right in, right out, uh so you can get in faster just as you're coming for the intersection that has the main entrance, so two on uh on highway forty two. [1:28:27, 1:28:29]: Thank you, sir. You're welcome. [1:28:30, 1:28:32]: Um okay, so let's see. [1:28:34, 1:28:43]: The ten feet walking trails, those are are automatically included, correct? Yes, by code on the furniture. Yes. Okay. Um [1:28:45, 1:28:47]: I don't see any mention of a clubhouse. [1:28:47, 1:29:00]: Glovehouse. Mm-hmm. Is that not something that they would be amenable to? Yes, we we we need to. That's a question that I'm asking Mr. Aaron. Yes. I'll let I'll let the applicant answer. [1:29:02, 1:29:10]: Uh so yeah, w the term we refer to in the application is a cabana so that it has like an outside area as well as bathrooms, but it goes with the pool. [1:29:10, 1:29:19]: And so we have a we'll have a cabana in a pool and then we're looking at sport courts or bocce, anything like that. Okay. And how many people will that cabana hold? [1:29:19, 1:29:24]: So the uh in terms of inside of it? Mm-hmm. Oh, I don't even know. [1:29:27, 1:29:28]: Approximately. [1:29:29, 1:29:49]: I d I don't know. It's probably I mean, if you have uh, you know, the typical pool day, you have thirty people at the pool, maybe five people go in there. I don't know, seven. I I know they're not it's not giGanttic. It's not made to like is a like a more of you see on the age restricted where they're you kind of s setting it up for like bingo and tables and stuff. It's more of it's more of [1:29:49, 1:30:09]: Be able to have a place to get out of the sun, relax, have a drink, and go to the bathroom, everything like that. The reason why I'm asking is because I know that there are oftentimes these communities want to host like you know, their HOA meetings or birthday parties or receptions, those kinds of things. And just having a clubhouse. [1:30:09, 1:30:14]: house specific to their subdivision just gives them, you know, the availability for them to [1:30:14, 1:30:22]: You know, do it right in their community. That's why I'm asking. I gotcha. I gotcha. That's all. That's not something that you all would be amenable to. [1:30:24, 1:30:25]: Just asking. [1:30:26, 1:30:27]: Yes. [1:30:30, 1:30:50]: It it it sounds like I know I know personally usually it's over two hundred when they do the giant uh uh clubhouses. I I would think that's not what we were trying to go for here because we're you know, we have so many trails and the retail are trying to get everybody out there. And so I think the vision of this would be if they had those meetings, they would either have them outside. [1:30:50, 1:30:53]: [5453.9, 5455.5]: Okay. Well I [1:30:55, 1:31:00]: I a actually support having clubhouses and a pool. [1:31:00, 1:31:08]: in each of our subdivisions, but nonetheless, um that's something that I will consider when I make a decision on this. Um let's see. [1:31:10, 1:31:17]: And I see that you have the connectivity between the different housing types. Thank you. Thank you for that. Um [1:31:19, 1:31:32]: The front and side yard setbacks, Mr. Anderson. I'm sorry, sir. I know that the council approved um updates to our codes. Did we change the front yard setbacks to fifteen feet? [1:31:33, 1:31:45]: Um no it that w that was pertaining to the MFR uh district, to multi uh multifamily residential district. That that's the one that we addressed in our recent legislation, not not PUD. [1:31:45, 1:31:49]: Thank you, sir. So under the PUD, the front yard sit back. [1:31:49, 1:32:03]: The p PUD is site plan specific is whatever um the applicant proposed and proposed and if counsel accepts it and then it will be then it will be um conditioned on that site plan. Okay. So can you tell me for this particular proposal? [1:32:04, 1:32:07]: What is the front yard setback that they are proposing? [1:32:07, 1:32:08]: Uh [1:32:09, 1:32:14]: W when you include the um the sidewalks and the right of way, uh it's it exceeds thirty feet. [1:32:15, 1:32:21]: Thirty feet. Mm-hmm. Okay. And that's what we that's and that's what we specified in our MFR district. [1:32:21, 1:32:24]: Thank you, sir. What about the um side yard setbacks? [1:32:24, 1:32:44]: Um the side yard setbacks uh it usually applies to the S R R district and in the MF M F R district it replies to the building. So it's like twenty feet between each building. So but like I said, PUD is site plan specific, it's like custom. You customize your [1:32:44, 1:33:04]: your setbacks and things and council votes to approve or disapprove. Okay, so for this PUD, well, I'll let him tell me then since he's so it depends, you know, which house is chosen on the lot. Um if it's the biggest one, they could be, you know, 12 feet apart and then they can go up to being 15, 16 feet apart. [1:33:04, 1:33:16]: you know, lot to lot, just depending on the house,'cause, you know, some houses are forty feet wide, some of'em are thirty six feet like a ranch. So it it there's some variation there. Okay. For the custom builds. I get it. [1:33:16, 1:33:18]: I gotcha. Okay. [1:33:18, 1:33:19]: Um, let me see. [1:33:20, 1:33:23]: So I don't really like the [1:33:25, 1:33:45]: short or close um units or houses. So I like to see distance in between the units, whether they are single family homes or town homes. That's all. That's just what I prefer. I gotcha. Are you amenable to reduce the density [1:33:45, 1:33:52]: the town homes so that way you can make room for clubhouse or is there an area [1:33:52, 1:34:12]: They they don't have I mean, honestly, we when we did this plan when we when we reduced the hundred and twenty-one units, we kind of put and then we further reduced it with the cabana, you know, with the uh um bungalows. That I they pretty much kind of got to the like their best foot forward. This plan, we looked at the engineering on it, we knew we could execute. [1:34:12, 1:34:20]: Execute it. So this this is the plan we're we need and propose. Because uh honestly, and on and to kind of address some of those comments is [1:34:20, 1:34:40]: If an if an hoa isn't enough in years to come, they they really can struggle and fail. Like if there's too much to maintain, the pool's too giGanttic, it has too much on it, the clubhouse is too big, and it starts going down in 20 years, those those HOAs bec can become a problem. So we we know we can make a very successful subdivision. [1:34:40, 1:34:46]: and what you see today. And that's why we wanted to be transparent in with what we're putting forward, we can execute a high quality development. [1:34:46, 1:34:47]: Thank you, sir. [1:34:47, 1:34:49]: Um let's see. [1:34:50, 1:34:58]: Price points. Can you tell me what the price points are that you kind of can guesstimate for the townhomes? [1:34:59, 1:35:15]: Sure. I mean, I I think all of them are gonna be what we've kind of talked about is uh mid threes up to into the fours and then the single family and bungs bungalows are gonna be fours and up into the fives for dislocation. Probably even sixes as they get bigger. [1:35:16, 1:35:18]: So for the town homes you said mid four hundreds? [1:35:19, 1:35:22]: Mid threes, up into the four hundreds, mid fours. [1:35:22, 1:35:25]: That's a four. Okay, and the single family you said [1:35:26, 1:35:40]: They're gonna be into the low low four hundreds and they're gonna go into the fives and even to the six depending on basement and options and you can option it up. Uh everything is market depending. And so if if everything starts immediately selling, I mean they could get up [1:35:40, 1:35:41]: Extremely high. [1:35:42, 1:35:45]: Okay, thank you. Um the square footage. [1:35:46, 1:35:47]: For the town homes. [1:35:52, 1:35:52]: Oh. [1:35:54, 1:35:57]: So on the town homes [1:35:59, 1:36:10]: They range from the the smallest pack the smallest one could be seventeen thirty six and then they go all the way up to tw two thousand one hundred and sixty five. [1:36:12, 1:36:16]: Okay. Thank you for that. What about the single family homes? [1:36:17, 1:36:37]: The single family range from uh 2400 to just under 3300, and then with basements can go up to four. And the ranch homes are uh 1800 to uh right at 2,000 square feet. That would be a one level. So there's two types. The big ones are the big ones obviously. [1:36:37, 1:36:40]: Those are the b way bigger uh two story. [1:36:40, 1:36:46]: And tell me um for the bungalows you said the square foot? Those go up to twenty four forty three. [1:36:52, 1:36:56]: Okay. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. You're welcome. That's all I have. [1:36:57, 1:37:00]: Mayor. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Sir, don't don't leave. [1:37:01, 1:37:21]: Certainly, I think um we had talked about the clubhouse and I think we I don't know how that kind of but there's going to be a clubhouse. So we did one similar down at Winding Creek that will hold about forty or fifty people and certainly something appropriate to that level because Winding Creek has maybe like a hundred [1:37:21, 1:37:41]: hundred and I think they got like 107, 120 houses in there, but certainly on the many zooms that we had, we certainly talked and discussed about having a clubhouse. I think you said that about the cabana, but I think I really emphasize that we wanted to have a clubhouse that's mandatory on every subdivision. [1:37:41, 1:38:01]: that we do that's over a hundred units. So this is kind of where we are on that. But we're not asking you to do a clubhouse that holds 500 people, but certainly appropriate for what we do, something about 40 to 50 people. And that would be equivalent to what you did in a little larger maybe than what you did in Winding Creek, which has [1:38:00, 1:38:18]: a hundred homes. This one has 168, but something in there between 40 and 50 people. I I like to have my town halls over there. So I've had several town halls over there and they have a nice little setup with the pool there and they have uh for they have town halls there. Gotcha. Okay. [1:38:18, 1:38:34]: I've no the comments, uh I've already read I do, Mayor Ford. Yes, ma'am. Considering what Councilman Alexander just mentioned, if he's going to build a clubhouse, will that require you to decrease the amount of units that you have? [1:38:34, 1:38:35]: No. [1:38:36, 1:38:39]: No? No. Okay, so where would the clubhouse go? [1:38:39, 1:38:43]: Maybe what it opposed. I mean it where you where you see it. [1:38:44, 1:38:46]: For the cabana? Mm-hmm. [1:38:46, 1:38:47]: Okay. [1:38:48, 1:39:02]: Um it's an area it's an area larger than that. Um, you know, maybe another four hundred, five hundred square feet of green space gets taken up, but it'll still fit in there if we need it to fit. We're just trying to avoid the additional HOA fee part of it. [1:39:03, 1:39:05]: Okay. Um [1:39:05, 1:39:07]: But would you have the parking space? [1:39:08, 1:39:14]: To accommodate a larger clubhouse. Oh yeah. Okay. That's why I'm asking if you would be able to re [1:39:14, 1:39:16]: If you would have to reduce the density. [1:39:17, 1:39:18]: Thank you, sir. [1:39:21, 1:39:41]: Okay, I need a motion to approve, please. Mayor, based on the what we've just discussed, certainly we will have a that add that to the conditions, a clubhouse of the comp staff will work through that, uh forty to fifty people capacity, something similar to what we had up at the Winding Creek subdivision, uh that would be appropriate. Uh [1:39:41, 1:40:01]: For that, let's add that condition uh in there. We got the pool already um uh in there uh as well. All of these conditions uh that are listed, the metal uh street lights uh that were listed, the flock cameras that were listed. Uh Miss Holliday, will you read back the conditions? [1:40:06, 1:40:15]: So other than the staff conditions, they're gonna change to number two with the townhomes having the [1:40:15, 1:40:29]: brick on the sides that are facing the public. And then on number seven, um staff is going to create language that identifies what the grocery store would be like. [1:40:30, 1:40:33]: Number nine has ten percent rental cap. [1:40:34, 1:40:39]: Number 10 is an HOA and number eleven is a clubhouse. [1:40:39, 1:40:43]: Um now as I understand it there's the street polls are in the code. [1:40:44, 1:40:55]: But the type of street polls are going to come from staff having conversation with the developer and also flock cameras are already in the code as I understand it. [1:40:55, 1:41:15]: Yes, in addition to that, they would need to be black and metal. Any crosswalks or signalization would need to be metal and black uh as well uh on list. And and even though it's in the code, I want to make sure that we have the ten foot multi-use pass alongs all all [1:41:15, 1:41:35]: All ALL of the frontage along Campground Road and the Highway 42 of this particular property. So I understand the Tabernacle of Praise is going through a very large renovation for their church. So certainly it might be nice if those residents could just walk down to [1:41:35, 1:41:55]: the tabernacle of praise uh along that path because part of that requirement I'm sure in the Henry County standard is that would have they would have to put a 10-foot multi-use path along this corridor uh as well. So certainly this is something that um would be amenable and um to what we had and then again we [1:41:55, 1:42:05]: we talked about the conditions along the highway uh corridor would be the requirement here in the grocery and based upon that mayor uh so moved [1:42:05, 1:42:09]: I wanna make sure that the applicant all those conditions we talked about, you're all good with those, correct? [1:42:10, 1:42:11]: Okay. As you nod your head, yes. All right. [1:42:12, 1:42:14]: Oh, motions are made and is there a second? [1:42:15, 1:42:23]: Mr. Berry second then. You got it right there, Tom. All right. All favor, please indicate. All pose. Sustain. [1:42:23, 1:42:38]: I will abstain. I have concerns about the density and I support the annexation. I just have concerns about um planning for all this growth. That's all. Three zero one, the motion passed. Congratulations, gentlemen. All right. [1:42:40, 1:43:00]: All right, what we got next, uh Text Amendment case TX uh 2024-06 for the gas station distance requirements citywide. Consideration of ordinance in the text amendment to amend Title 12 Unified Development Code, Chapter 3, Use Regulation, Section 3.2.14 C. [1:43:00, 1:43:20]: to add sections 3.2 point one four E F G H I I J K L N N O P. I get the whole alphabet here, okay? Relating to the gas uh gasoline service stations so as to amend the gas station distance requirement four thousand feet to eight hundred feet. [1:43:20, 1:43:40]: And to add additional requirements providing uh to provide the serve uh servability, severability to the repeal uh conflicting ordinances to provide an affected date and for other purposes. Mr. Ryan, please. Can I ask a question, Mayor, before we get started? Yes, sir. Mr. Anderson, I I this right here, okay. [1:43:40, 1:43:58]: So the uh the approach, I trying to understand the approach and then hopefully you'll explain what it is. Wouldn't it just be might be a I don't know what this approach is that that that they were bringing to council for a approval to get this variance whether then [1:43:58, 1:44:18]: Councilman Malizella, we don't have a provision in the code for that. So that's what we're trying to uh implement. We're trying to anything that we do, we can put that caveat on there that they would have to come back council. Oh, that's that's definitely yeah. They would need a special use permit. We're reducing it and replacing it with a special use permit required. Okay, so this is a special use permit. Yeah, so that's all we're doing. We're asking the re because we have [1:44:18, 1:44:32]: have several um um potential mixed use developments uh that we're working on. Um and currently they so all we're asking is that the applicant, the developer be able to bring his bring his proposal to council. [1:44:33, 1:44:53]: So council can decide based on the individual merits of the project. So currently they can't even come before council to ask for that reduction because there's no provision in the code. So we're just asking you to reduce it from forty five hundred to eight hundred feet with a special use permit by council. So council still will control the entire process. Well, this would be like something uh [1:44:53, 1:45:13]: And then we had Costco on the other side there that might be a little bit close. That's what you're trying to accomplish here? Yes, sir. Similar to that. But what would allow Costco's was [1:45:13, 1:45:33]: Was that it was governed by the Bridges of Johto Coast South Master Plan, and that master plan trumps our zoning ordinance. But citywide, there's no provision for this. So which but that's what I'm saying. It's the same concept, which is without that development agreement, they wouldn't have been able to do that. Exactly. But in the future, if there was somebody who wanted to do something like this development. [1:45:33, 1:45:53]: development right here and there is there was a gas station right down the street, then this Publix or this or Kroger or whatever would be able to do that. Yes, sir. Like the analogy you gave earlier when you mentioned Kroger, like it would be like a potential Kroger with pumps. That would be part of the development that we recent we just heard. So currently [1:45:53, 1:46:07]: they wouldn't be able to come before you with that proposal with the current regulations in place. If we amend it, then they could come before council and ask for a special use permit. And council has the right to deny or approve. [1:46:07, 1:46:19]: Yeah, uh you go ahead with your whole presentation, but I wanted to make it clear to anybody that's watching, this is not this is something that would for unique situations that would be rare. Yes, sir. Thank you. [1:46:21, 1:46:22]: Mm. [1:46:22, 1:46:42]: So the Mayor you finished you finished. I'm ready? Okay. Um so basically we're asking uh I'm coming before council asking for permission to amend the distance requirements from gas stations from forty five hundred feet to eight hundred feet with a special use permit. And add additional requirements for convenience or as we with gas stations. Um [1:46:44, 1:46:45]: Let me go to those theaters. [1:46:48, 1:46:50]: I'm trying to speed it up, Mayor. [1:46:53, 1:47:13]: Okay, so these are additional requirements for a a gas station. A gas gas service station must be located on a property which has furniture on either a collector or an arterial. It can't go into residential or collector streets as classified by the Georgia Department of Transportation or Henry County Department of Transportation. Gasoline. [1:47:13, 1:47:32]: Gasoline service stations are allowed with a base zoning of C3. Gasoline service stations are allowed in the C2 General Commercial District via a special use permit. All property design standards of the base zoning district must be met. Building facades for both primary and accessory structures must be constructed of brick on all sides. [1:47:33, 1:47:37]: A at the stations an equal number of electric charging stations [1:47:37, 1:47:39]: As gas pumps must be provided on the site. [1:47:40, 1:47:43]: Covered canopies must be provided over gas stations and electric charging stations. [1:47:44, 1:47:45]: an acceptable [1:47:45, 1:47:55]: Means of access and internal circulation must be provided to determined by the fire marshal. The required number of parking spaces of the base zoning district must be provided. [1:47:56, 1:48:00]: The required buffers of the base zoning district must be provided. [1:48:00, 1:48:03]: The square footage of the gasoline service stations wants to be at least [1:48:04, 1:48:23]: 5,000 square feet. Must the the gasoline service station must have suites to accommodate at least two sub tenants. All gasoline service stations must meet the meet the other related City of Stockbridge code and ordinances. And other special requirements to be turned by the community development director must be met. [1:48:25, 1:48:35]: Here is the proposed ordinance and it has all those requirements in there. Uh this was vetted by legal uh Valerie Ross. So [1:48:36, 1:48:48]: So basically to sum it all up, we're just asking for permission to replace the uh forty five hundred distance requirement with a special use permit to be approved by council. [1:48:50, 1:48:50]: Okay. [1:48:51, 1:48:53]: Any other questions for Mr. Ryan? [1:48:54, 1:48:56]: Go ahead, please, Ms. Barber. [1:48:56, 1:49:03]: Um so I'm confused. Why explain again, why are we reducing the distance requirement? [1:49:04, 1:49:19]: Um, because we have sep like for instance, say if a a Kroger wanted to come into the city of Stockbridge, a new Kroger or Ingalls or whatever, that they have gas pumps, they can't come into the city right now because of the distance requirements. [1:49:23, 1:49:38]: So what so what what we're asking for, staff still can't approve it, but we just want them to be able to bring their proposals to city council and city coun council review the the proposal and make a determination based on the merits of that proposal. [1:49:39, 1:49:59]: So grocery stores are not one of the one stores that is restricted though. Well, the it's not the store. It it's the gas sales which is prohibited. So we're asking the gasoline sales be reduced to 800 feet with a special use permit approved by city council. They still can't do it. [1:49:59, 1:50:02]: Without coming to get blessing from the city council. [1:50:02, 1:50:08]: So all we're doing is giving them an opportunity to come before council to present their proposal. [1:50:09, 1:50:29]: Okay, I'm just thinking in terms of areas where a Kroger or a Aldies would um submit a proposal. And the only places that I know that there is areas such as this would be in my district, and perhaps his, City Council District Five. [1:50:29, 1:50:31]: So [1:50:31, 1:50:47]: Maybe an uh Well that's that's that's partially true, Council Member Barber, but uh Have you received any requests? I've re I've received some interest, yes ma'am. Okay. Thank you. Yes. [1:50:48, 1:50:50]: Any other questions for the council? [1:50:52, 1:50:55]: All right, seeing none, I need a motion to [1:50:56, 1:51:10]: Uh an emotion to approve this uh change. Mayor, can I say something? Uh go ahead, sir. The Planning Commission uh they recommended approval unanimously unanimously and uh this is part of a public hearing, so you got to open it up. [1:51:10, 1:51:23]: All right. Thank you, sir. Keep me straight. All right. Public hearing. You're absolutely right. Jump the gun. All right. For folks that are here that are uh on my far left side that are approved this, the rest of proving this will make positive comments for my far left side. [1:51:24, 1:51:31]: In the middle or the far right? No comments. Any comments from our far left side and the comments against this particular proposal. In the middle? [1:51:32, 1:51:42]: My far right. No comments for or against Mr. Anderson. Thank you for reminding me about that. All right. Uh council, it's up to you. What's what's your requirement? What's the thing? Motion to approve or disapprove? [1:51:46, 1:51:47]: Male. [1:51:49, 1:51:54]: Yes, ma'am. It has to be a special use permit and they have to have permission, yeah, from council to [1:51:54, 1:51:56]: To move forward with anything. [1:51:57, 1:51:58]: Is there a second? [1:51:59, 1:52:01]: Ms. Barber Sake from Ms. Ganttham. Ms. Barber, all in favor, please indicate. [1:52:02, 1:52:22]: Now it's decision outstanding. Thank you, guys. All right, appreciate it. New business. Council consideration to approve the annual contract RFP 2020-0026 with site engineering incorporated for on-call water and sewer emergency and operational repair, maintenance, and construction services in amount of four hundred thousand dollars as approved by the F. [1:52:22, 1:52:30]: 2025 budget. This is the fourth and final renewal of the on-call utility contract to service to be bidded out. [1:52:30, 1:52:50]: Mr. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor and Council. We come before you tonight asking you to renew site engineering for the final time for the on call water and sewer contract. They've been very instrumental in assisting the city over the last seven or eight years with projects, particularly stormwater. They're also [1:52:50, 1:53:10]: able to help us fast track the GDOT project on Highway 138 where they were widening the road. We had to move infrastructure there. So we're just asking that you renew them. It's always good to have a utility contractor on board in case an emergency come up at night. They don't have to follow the process. [1:53:10, 1:53:17]: as we do as far as procurement and things of that nature. So in event of emergency, it'll be a great benefit to us. [1:53:17, 1:53:25]: Thank you. Comments qu uh counsel. Yes. We please. Now I'm I'm amenable to extending contract, but this [1:53:25, 1:53:27]: Number four might be the [1:53:28, 1:53:43]: We've got three in already. Isn't it time to go back out? It's going out to be this is the final renewal. What we typically do is a one year contract. [1:53:43, 1:54:03]: But that's what the R F was one year with four annual four one year renewal. So it's a term of five years after it is completed. Right. But I thought we had agreed that we weren't gonna do that long anymore. We're gonna do about three years, maybe two, three years, and then we would send it back out to the market because that's [1:54:03, 1:54:06]: I mean, uh, how much time do we have? [1:54:06, 1:54:21]: But uh one thing about it, the more time you have on it, the better rates you get, cause you lock in a lower rate, cause right now in the utility industry, prices are escalating tremendously. And we're locked in at prices that we got [1:54:22, 1:54:31]: Five years ago, four or five years ago, they're locked into that price versus what today's current prices are. So the longer the term you typically get better pricing. [1:54:32, 1:54:52]: No, but we don't know what today's prices is because it's been four years now. Yes, we do. Sir, we we have those prices. And like I say, every project that site does for us, one of our engineers review it to either we let site do it or we bid it out based on the pricing. Like when G Dot came to us, we had to move those. [1:54:52, 1:55:12]: utilities they did it for around 130 something the engineer consulted with some firms that do the it was over 400 000 so we are getting competitive pricing using those but if their prices are out of line we bid the project but their prices have been very reasonable when it comes to the [1:55:12, 1:55:16]: all of these multitude of stormwater repairs we've made. [1:55:16, 1:55:24]: It it's just been my experience that the longer the term you tend to get better pricing because you don't have that fluctuation if you do it every two or three years. [1:55:24, 1:55:44]: I certainly kind of agree with what you're saying, but I generally don't like four or five year contracts. I like something shorter to that than to be able to move on. I four or five is a stretch. Maybe three um is uh is kind of where we are now. So if if we did put it back out for bid [1:55:44, 1:56:03]: then with this these they would be able to they would be able to offer up again, right? And they may be rechosen again. Yes, they would they would be it again, but the prices are gonna be higher. Now you got all these tariffs and other things going in into effect, that's gonna greatly impact a lot of things, especially in utilities,'cause you're dealing with a lot of things that include [1:56:03, 1:56:14]: Steel that includes aluminum, copper, all of that that you have the tariffs that is coming from overseas, it's gonna greatly impact the prices, but they're locked into these prices we currently have. [1:56:15, 1:56:18]: Okay. Okay, thank you. Yes, Ms. Barber. [1:56:20, 1:56:33]: Thank you, Mr. Aaron. Um and Councilman Alexander he's funny. Um thank you, Mr. Aaron. I do see you did note on here that it is the fourth and final renewal. Yes. And I agree with everything that you've said. [1:56:34, 1:56:35]: They are locked in. [1:56:35, 1:56:36]: Any rate. [1:56:37, 1:56:49]: until this current contract expires. It is advantageous for us to renew this again locked in at whatever rate we already we already have with them. [1:56:49, 1:56:52]: So I do support rebidding this though. [1:56:53, 1:56:57]: Yes, we are gonna rebuild it. This is the final renewal. I see. I see you haven't noted here. [1:56:57, 1:56:58]: Um [1:56:59, 1:57:07]: One of the things that would have been helpful though, I'd like to see how much we actually spent with site engineering in 2024. [1:57:08, 1:57:10]: The entire year. [1:57:10, 1:57:18]: Get an idea. I can I can get that straight. We don't have that information. I can get that to you. The majority of it has been stormwater free. [1:57:20, 1:57:20]: That's okay. [1:57:20, 1:57:21]: That's okay. [1:57:22, 1:57:23]: Um this is fine. [1:57:24, 1:57:28]: If the council doesn't have any other questions, I will make a motion, sir. [1:57:29, 1:57:42]: Mayor to approve this so we can move on. We'll just ask the council. Any other anybody got any other questions, concerns? If not, then go right here please. Okay. At the recommendation of uh Mr. Aaron, um [1:57:42, 1:57:51]: I support approving of the annual renewal of this site engineering contract, not to exceed the four hundred thousand dollars. [1:57:53, 1:57:56]: I second. Okay, Ms. Gantt, second. All favor, please indicate. [1:57:56, 1:58:16]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Okay. Council consideration for approval to replace the grass seeding area in an amphitheater with FBI Flex PAVE in the amount of$165,000. Yellowstone landscape is$58,953, and KBI Industries Incorporated$98,095. [1:58:16, 1:58:22]: Funny source would be Splos. Once again, Miss OK. Ow. Al is here. Who is her? [1:58:23, 1:58:39]: Yes, good evening, Mayor and Council. Um I'm here to present a recommendation for changing a lawn at the amphitheater for the flex plave. Um you should have a little bit of information as far as pricing as well as the [1:58:39, 1:58:42]: The brochure that they provided for us. [1:58:43, 1:58:51]: Um, I do have a little PowerPoint presentation so you can kinda see the condition that that lawn is in when it's in an off season. [1:58:51, 1:58:54]: Then go ahead, sir, please. [1:58:57, 1:58:58]: Oh good, right here. [1:59:02, 1:59:03]: Okay. [1:59:05, 1:59:06]: I think that's it. Okay. [1:59:15, 1:59:16]: Skip. [1:59:19, 1:59:24]: Арай, зрай, аз, амптиат, [1:59:25, 1:59:27]: for the community as well as to bring [1:59:29, 1:59:40]: um acts and different types of events to our community. Um with the lawn you see right now is basically the the condition it was when we was first built. [1:59:43, 2:00:03]: This right here is what the lawn looks, and this is the issues of the lawn. It has pathways in the off-season, sinkholes. You can also see matted grass and hills. Right now it has heavy traffic use. For my recommendation, for my understanding, that it was not built for. [2:00:03, 2:00:09]: To have seating on it. It was basically for lawn chairs, blankets of sorts. [2:00:12, 2:00:16]: I got that, but it cuts down on your attendance by the way too, by the way. So I know. [2:00:17, 2:00:37]: This right here is Flex Pave. I also do have some samples that you all can hold and actually take a look at. I'm sorry I didn't get that to you soon enough. But this right here is just basically a description of Flex Pave. Um it has pores, it's able to have water run through it. So also with the system that we [2:00:37, 2:00:47]: currently have at the amphitheater the drainage we wouldn't have to do n nothing to it. It would actually water would just drain straight through it as if it was a lawn itself. [2:00:48, 2:00:50]: That's just a brief description of it. [2:00:52, 2:01:01]: Um also you the features and benefit, it does not crack like typical pavement. Um is easy to clean. [2:01:02, 2:01:15]: And also down here has the benefits for it as well as the improve the water quality, cleans water as it passes through the material. It manages storm water as well. [2:01:15, 2:01:23]: And it's also conducive with the environment. This is disused by tires as well as recycling material. [2:01:28, 2:01:40]: Um this right here is examples of some pictures. Um is also used on um Atlanta um Beltway, the Beltline Project as well. But this right here is just a couple of pictures. [2:01:46, 2:01:47]: I suppose we [2:01:48, 2:01:50]: It could be feel true like a different. [2:01:52, 2:02:12]: The spree. Uh flex pave would also uh reduce operating costs. It would kinda it would actually lower the cost of having the lawn service in there as far as cutting, wheat eating, and trying to treat as far as fertilizing as well. So this offers a long time um lifespan. [2:02:12, 2:02:18]: And it should revitalize the seating of the amphitheater along with the rebranding of its name. [2:02:19, 2:02:22]: So we should have added another look to it as well. [2:02:24, 2:02:26]: And that's the end. Any questions? [2:02:27, 2:02:33]: Well I I have to admit I like the concept. I hope that the council will approve this. Go ahead, Mr Alexander. [2:02:33, 2:02:53]: I like the concept, but this is hard as a rock. And um I think uh what I kinda had in mind was maybe like the prescription athletic turf that they use on the football fields. Mm-hmm. This scene I don't know, maybe it's just a sample of how the sample look. Because if you lose on the uh the what they use on the football fields is [2:02:53, 2:02:55]: You know, if you fell on this [2:02:56, 2:03:04]: Well you you hopefully people won't be following on you. I'm just but but I'm saying you know how people do, right? I mean somebody gonna try to whatever the case may be. Uh Mr. Young, can you come up [2:03:06, 2:03:26]: But again, this I don't know, maybe this is just what the sample is like. Is this what it's actually gonna be like or is this just what the sample They have actually um I think Miss Barber has the one that is actually a little spongy. A lot of spongy. But also you have to think we're putting seating on top of that. Right. [2:03:26, 2:03:27]: Yeah. [2:03:28, 2:03:29]: Yeah, you know this is a [2:03:29, 2:03:36]: You need to emphasize that. Right. You put in what I got. Well water water does go through it. [2:03:37, 2:03:55]: But but what I'm saying is that you do you understand what I'm talking about? On the football field, it's like y'all been on the p you've been on the athletic fields that have the uh prescription athletic turf where it's it's not this hard. It's like it's almost like it feels like real grass. You've been on the one turf field? [2:03:56, 2:04:16]: The uh the advantage uh first of good evening, uh the advantage of that product is first of all you're putting chairs and you're sitting on it. So the problem that we're having is that the weight now we have dirt and um when people sit down when it rains, people seeking her into the ground. [2:04:16, 2:04:36]: So that was sustain people from falling. Right. It's not so much of, it's also a look too. It'll be a nice clean look all the time. And we have to worry about what's happened is last year we did 12 um, we had to move the chairs$12. Every time we move the 12s, it's$1,700 approximately. We're talking about [2:04:36, 2:04:51]: close to twenty thousand dollars and just moving the chairs the lawn. Just to mow the lawn. That that is hard. Just to just to move the chairs. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean so it's it's it's it's very, very I mean the way the things are right now is very costly. [2:04:51, 2:05:06]: Before I c before I close and and I think the other councilman has some other questions too, we had discussed actually doing some turf down in the pit area because it's a hundred and ten degrees when the s when the sun is shining down there. [2:05:06, 2:05:15]: What would do well, we don't have an estimate on being able to do that and now we got a sponsor. Certainly we should have some dollars to be able to fund that because [2:05:15, 2:05:19]: In the summertime when the heat is shining down on that pit area and [2:05:20, 2:05:22]: It's a hundred and ten in there. [2:05:22, 2:05:39]: This would actually help lower the temperature on the concrete. Uh if we were to actually invest in some type of artificial, cause that concrete is so hot. Even on a ninety degree day, it's too hot. So what can we do about adding that in, whether we do this or another material? [2:05:41, 2:05:48]: Okay, well one of the things I don't know if you if you really know about turf. Turf has little rubber pellets in it. Mm-hmm. [2:05:48, 2:05:50]: So as people walk [2:05:50, 2:06:10]: You know what saying no little pellets would kick up. So if you if you watch last night's Super Bowl, you will see when they stumble, they fall, they kick up, there's little pellets that are on turf. You know saying so. Then you have to look at a maintenance as far as with that. So that is not just something that you just put down and you just leave with chairs and tables moving. [2:06:10, 2:06:22]: moving across that. Now you aggravating the little pellets that's within that turf. Then also um we did look into getting before actually coming across that, looking at doing turf. [2:06:23, 2:06:25]: Up there on the top of the area where the grass is. [2:06:26, 2:06:27]: Then you have to worry about [2:06:28, 2:06:39]: You know, the little artificial grass sticking up, laying down with the chairs and tables that's constantly sitting down on it. Now you're gonna have little, you know, saying spots and divots all inside of that. [2:06:40, 2:06:40]: Mm. [2:06:40, 2:07:00]: I was before you do it, I would say to you that in reference I would think that this will be phase one. If we wanna look further to the pit area, fa maybe phase two, do this in phases this is already green. We don't keep the green color, this aspect. Um I would think that uh you know we can uh get this done now before the concert season and look at uh maybe next year doing doing another [2:07:00, 2:07:10]: something else in phase two. That's my initial thoughts. Yes ma'am, go ahead please. Well m you know, initially I understood the concept of oh, you want it to be a little spongy, but [2:07:11, 2:07:16]: Women wear heels at their concerts, right? And then you have your chairs, which [2:07:16, 2:07:21]: Put weight down which punctures holes into that spongy. [2:07:21, 2:07:30]: thing. So to me, these this works better with heels. You're not gonna have those indentions and it's not gonna tear it up. Whereas you walk down [2:07:31, 2:07:34]: On that sponge thing, n not even one day. [2:07:34, 2:07:41]: I mean that's it's gonna puncture. Somebody's gonna puncture, you know, based off of weight or size, whatever, you never you never know. [2:07:41, 2:07:50]: But I think that this works now, it might be harder to walk on. I don't know. It's a little rougher, kinda like a rockier sur surface, not really smooth. [2:07:51, 2:07:51]: But [2:07:52, 2:08:02]: you don't want it to puncture and the the softer material's definitely gonna puncture, even with the chairs. I mean, it'll pun you sitting and it it's gonna puncture. So you wanna make sure [2:08:02, 2:08:07]: That whatever we get doesn't puncture what we're purchasing. Ms. Bs Barber Good, please. [2:08:07, 2:08:10]: Yeah, I wanted to ask um Mr. Aaron [2:08:11, 2:08:14]: Is this an item that was budgeted for this year? [2:08:16, 2:08:36]: So uh I'll let uh Frank speak to that. But one of the things I also want to wanna mention is that the softer one, you gotta think when it's a hundred plus degrees or nine and plus, it's gonna get even softer than what it is. And so now you're gonna have folks kind of [2:08:36, 2:08:56]: But we're not getting this off on. We already said that. Even if if you went to the artificial turf, you would have to put a base under there, which more than likely would be concrete, and you put the turf over the concrete. So you kind of defeat the purpose of what you're you're trying to do. And this firm firmer process. [2:08:56, 2:09:03]: product will give you a better product and also the look that you're looking for. I think the people just want to be comfortable [2:09:03, 2:09:18]: And when they sit down and not sinking or falling or something like that, and I think that one will give you what you're looking for. Well I agree, like I said, the pit area. Mr. Malazi Is this an item that was budgeted? [2:09:20, 2:09:36]: This was approved in the SPAS and SPAS is coming in sometime April, May, and they can't wait for this project. So we are taking money in place of SPAS and replaced once Splas comes in. [2:09:36, 2:09:46]: So what I'm asking is the FY twenty twenty five budget that was approved. It was this an is this a line item? [2:09:46, 2:09:48]: In the budget. [2:09:48, 2:09:49]: For the amphitheater. [2:09:50, 2:09:53]: It's one of the allocations that they made in this class. [2:09:54, 2:09:56]: In the splast. Yes. [2:09:56, 2:09:58]: But is this a project? [2:09:59, 2:10:01]: That was a line item. [2:10:01, 2:10:02]: In the budget. [2:10:03, 2:10:03]: Four. [2:10:04, 2:10:05]: The amphitheater. [2:10:06, 2:10:09]: No ma'am, not of this [2:10:10, 2:10:13]: That's all I'm asking. Okay. My next question [2:10:14, 2:10:28]: My next question, the maintenance. Depending on whichever grade of this that you suggest to us, what is the maintenance like? How often do you replace or have to [2:10:29, 2:10:49]: You were replacing if they're damaged, it's just like the fixed seating you have in there. This could be from seven to ten years depending on the the traffic on it, the amount of people that are sitting on it and things of that sort. And it's gonna get weathered because it's out in the weather, just like we replaced some seats already in the amphitheater. Everything has a life expectancy, but [2:10:49, 2:10:51]: This would be seven to ten years. [2:10:53, 2:10:58]: Okay. Um these companies um that you have [2:10:59, 2:11:01]: I guess quotes from [2:11:01, 2:11:03]: They offer warranties. [2:11:03, 2:11:04]: Yes they do. [2:11:05, 2:11:09]: Can you share some details about the warranty? [2:11:10, 2:11:16]: It should be in that brochure that's a part of your package. Just for the public's knowledge. [2:11:36, 2:11:39]: Okay. Uh excuse me. [2:11:41, 2:11:47]: It's a one year material warranty. Extended warranties are available with the additional maintenance program. [2:11:48, 2:11:52]: The additional maintenance program, is that an extra cost? [2:11:53, 2:11:58]: Yes, that'll be a extra cost. Do we know what that extra cost is? [2:11:58, 2:12:02]: No, I don't have that at the um present time. Okay. But I can get that to you. [2:12:02, 2:12:03]: Thank you. [2:12:04, 2:12:09]: Oh, I'm sorry, one more. Mr. Aaron, so which of these grades are you suggesting? [2:12:11, 2:12:29]: I would re while different. I would recommend the the solid one, the more solid. You had the spongier, softer one. But I think Councilmember Gann or Councilmember Berry. No, it's not. It's a brown. [2:12:31, 2:12:38]: I need for you to tell me which one exactly. [2:12:39, 2:12:45]: Okay. [2:12:45, 2:12:46]: Really. [2:12:50, 2:12:55]: I don't see. Like the green. It looked like red. [2:12:58, 2:13:00]: Yeah. [2:13:04, 2:13:20]: Yeah, Miss Barber, there's one that's just soft, but all of them are the same. The only difference is the samples are just the different colors that they come in. But the only one that is different from all of them is that spongy one, the very first one that you had. But the rest of them are all still the same. They're just different colors. [2:13:21, 2:13:21]: Mm-hmm. [2:13:24, 2:13:30]: All right. My qu my question is is probably on the same line. [2:13:30, 2:13:50]: The qu the problem we're having is with the heat. And so this is still like a rock, a granular type material, which is seems to be akin to the concrete that it's gonna push off heat. So my question is, have they given a rating of how hot this material gets? Does it reflect the heat? [2:13:50, 2:13:59]: Does it absorb the heat? Like what's the UV rating on it? Like what is what is what are they saying? I didn't see anything in the presentation about the the temperature. [2:13:59, 2:14:09]: of this material.'Cause that was one of the things that we we've all kind of shared the sentiment about is that on the summer hot days it's right. It's smoking. [2:14:09, 2:14:25]: Well that's you're talking about the pit now. The grass area is grass right now. But if we replace it with this and it doesn't have the absorption of grass. It's porous. Yeah, it's pour straight through. [2:14:26, 2:14:40]: So like that that water rod runs through that and everything, like he said, and then it has a base that is a gravel base. I get the water, but I'm saying what what does the sun do when heat hits it? Does it reflect the heat? Does it absorb the heat? [2:14:41, 2:14:46]: Like we're I get the water absorption part and we don't have to deal with that. So [2:14:46, 2:15:06]: It's a porous material. It's gonna absorb heat, but we gotta keep in mind too. We're outside in the Georgia heat. If it's 98 plus 100, I don't care what surface it is, artificial turf gets extremely hot, concrete's gonna get hot, asphalt gonna get hot, but this is in use on the Atlanta Belt line, and people are running and walking on it every day. [2:15:06, 2:15:13]: They in all type of conditions. So we just gotta keep in mind that something no matter what you try. [2:15:14, 2:15:20]: You know, n nature wins sometimes. It does. And and so that leads me to my next question is [2:15:20, 2:15:40]: I've seen it. I've been on the belt line before, and I I know that sometimes just like with the pellets and the uh turf, sometimes these things break off too over time. In certain especially the heavier traffic areas, it breaks apart too. So I'm concerned about the the one year warranty. [2:15:40, 2:15:42]: That they offer on material. [2:15:43, 2:15:44]: Is [2:15:44, 2:16:04]: But if that's a concern, there's also an extended warranty we can get. But it it would be no different than like the the playground equipment we have at Clark Park that we put under the playground equipment. We replace some of those, but the majority of it is still in place, still works and functions the way it is. [2:16:04, 2:16:10]: It intent it intended to do and that's been at least over seven years. [2:16:11, 2:16:25]: Little spongy. It's similar to this. I know it's similar, but is it exact same? Is it No, it's not that's more of a sponge type. It's a s it's a smoother and softer, pliable material because you got kids jumping and falling on it. So that's exactly right. [2:16:26, 2:16:32]: But it is it's not porous like this and it and it doesn't really absorb heat like this does. [2:16:34, 2:16:54]: B besides this long term I think it'd be beneficial for us because obviously i if we didn't change it out, just got the constant grass cutting, edging, the movement of the chairs, uh so often with that the the labor for that aspect as well and its overall look. Uh you saw pictures earlier in the presentation where it looked w when it first was uh put in the [2:16:53, 2:17:13]: [8233.9, 8244.3]: that cost them, you want to have that look and it'd be natural grass, then you'll probably resaw it that two or three times during the concert season to have that look. So [2:17:25, 2:17:44]: This will also allow us not to have to move the chairs on every between every concert and get grass cut as well. Save on that money long term as well as the the the guys that are moving that concert all the time, put the chairs back in the in the right order. Yes, sir. I'm sorry, Question Where? Miss Barber, go ahead please. Yeah, I need to ask. Um [2:17:45, 2:17:47]: Has this gone through the competitive bidding process? [2:17:49, 2:17:59]: So in order to we were requested uh to try to fast track this before the concert season starts. Yep. So no, if you let me finish. [2:18:00, 2:18:05]: K is their own state contract, so it has been competitively bidded. [2:18:05, 2:18:25]: They are a source well vendor. So and Yellowstone is one of our vendors, current vendors as well. So you would amend the agreement or contract you have with them to allow them to do the prep work for the installation of this property. Okay, so are you saying that you're going to piggyback off uh source? [2:18:25, 2:18:41]: Yes, ma'am, for the flex. Thank you, sir. That answers my question. If in fact that is what your intent is to piggyback off of a state contract with Sourcewell for this. [2:18:41, 2:18:46]: The reason why I'm asking, I wanna make sure that we're getting the the best deal. [2:18:46, 2:18:53]: That was the only way we could fast track it is find someone that we can piggyback off the source well contract. So that's why we did it that way. [2:18:55, 2:18:56]: Any other questions? Question. [2:18:56, 2:19:00]: Legally that's what you had to do, that was required of you. Yes. [2:19:00, 2:19:14]: Now, Mr. Malazzi, could you step to the podium? Now we're taking these funds out of SPLOS, right? That is correct. Right. So in this SPLOSS account that you're taking out of how much money is in that account? [2:19:14, 2:19:34]: So as I said that uh you plus when it's coming is allocated. During that allocation there are things that has to be done in January and this is one of the program that they found that it can be uh used. [2:19:34, 2:19:39]: in the amphitheatre side. Splash is not yet to come. [2:19:40, 2:19:44]: It's going to come down the line April May. Mm-hmm. [2:19:44, 2:20:00]: And between now and then we have money that they can use. When sa uh splash money comes, we put back one sixty five. So right now we're bringing in what? About five hundred something thousand dollars a month in the splashed? [2:20:00, 2:20:13]: We will be getting about seven hundred thousand when it starts coming in. Right, but I'm saying right now we have splash four, we have splash five, we have additional splash in addition. But this is the plus six where the money will come from is plus six. [2:20:13, 2:20:30]: Right. So in essence what is going to happen is and and I know Mary you you kinda wanna wanna be hesitant on this, but if we got SLOSS dollars coming in and we're gonna have a contractor already out here, it would be cheaper to get it done now'cause we know the price is going to go up. [2:20:30, 2:20:34]: And I and and with all due respect, Mr. Aaron, we know [2:20:35, 2:20:55]: That it's gonna be hot, and certainly Georgia is gonna be hot everywhere. But that turf is gonna be a lot less hot than that concrete, because that concrete in the pit area is totally unbearable. All of us have been in it. It is totally unbearable when you're down there and you're trying to enjoy the contrary. [2:20:55, 2:21:09]: insert and it's 110 degrees. Now we already know that's what happens uh on when you have concrete because concrete without a doubt reflects heat at a higher rate than anything else. Period. [2:21:09, 2:21:12]: And having guests come and sit on that. [2:21:12, 2:21:17]: It is unbearable. So we could reduce it by five degrees. [2:21:17, 2:21:28]: or ten degrees or whatever that case may be, it certainly would be beneficial to do it if we could do it. I I n I don't know, like I said, I just know we wanna be cautious into what we're doing. [2:21:28, 2:21:45]: But to send our folks through another year of a hundred and something degrees in that pit and they're paying three hundred and something dollars, and we got a vendor now with uh with ViceStar, certainly they probably would appreciate it. Mr. Young, your thoughts? [2:21:48, 2:22:08]: Well f uh first of all thank you because it it is hot. I mean and we c we can't we can't uh deny that. The thing that I was uh if we can get this done it has to be done in phases, as long as it gets done. Uh if we have to do this now, get this grass done first and then the pit [2:22:08, 2:22:28]: Um you it's definitely has to be done. The pit de I mean, you can't go uh a few more seasons like this because we don't know what the climate's gonna look like. It's getting hotter, you know, and and people we've had some medical issues with people getting uh overheated, but it doesn't it I would suggest if we just get this grass done first. [2:22:28, 2:22:48]: And then if we it I mean, I don't know your I'm I don't know the financial situation. I just need to know that the grass needs to be done first because it's a problem. Chairs are sinking in the dirt. Right. Um people can we we can have potential uh medical condition where people can get hurt because those chairs, that's the next thing later we're gonna replace those chairs. [2:22:48, 2:23:08]: Because they're getting rusted and be and it's it they're not outside chairs. Um there's a lot of things that need to take place with the next uh SPLOSS allocations that I'm gonna present to you all also, because there's some things that definitely need to be done to better the amphitheater experience. What I'm saying is I don't want to slow down what we're doing tonight. [2:23:08, 2:23:10]: Let's go ahead and do [2:23:10, 2:23:17]: Right now the grass that has been suggested. But let's immediately turn to the pit. [2:23:17, 2:23:37]: And let's go ahead and try to get the pit done too. We don't want to hold this up. You gotta go out and get a estimate for it anyway. Let's go ahead and get the estimate now and to see whether what could be done. They can go ahead and install right now uh the grass up in that other area. But let's uh let's find out what it costs and then the s we start. [2:23:37, 2:23:39]: What the collection win, Mr. Malazi? [2:23:42, 2:24:02]: End of April or May. End of April, right? So the c the first concert's not until May the third. But we will have this already installed and then maybe the first couple of concerts we might not have it down there. But by the time July rolls around, when it's uh or past Father's Day, when it's a hundred degrees out there, we could have [2:24:02, 2:24:11]: Have it done by then. And I understand the phased approach, but we do this now and then circle back to the pit area uh by summertime. [2:24:12, 2:24:14]: All right. Ms. Barber, you had another comment? [2:24:14, 2:24:20]: I wanted to ask, um I just think we need to do better planning. Um we are [2:24:21, 2:24:31]: what two, three months from the very first concert. So if this was something that we wanted to see happen, and I know the council has talked about it, the grassy area [2:24:32, 2:24:35]: About doing something we've talked about this a few years now. [2:24:35, 2:24:39]: These are discussions that I would hope that we would have during the retreat. So [2:24:40, 2:24:46]: We could have more robust discussions such as this. Um I do agree. [2:24:46, 2:24:53]: I agree about the comments in the pit area, how hot it is. I agree with the grassy area. [2:24:54, 2:25:00]: What I'm challenged with though is I know if we got a quote [2:25:00, 2:25:08]: To cover both the grassy area and the pit area, the cost would be more beneficial for us. [2:25:09, 2:25:11]: If we got a quote together. [2:25:11, 2:25:15]: But if we're gonna piecemeal this, we're probably gonna be paying more. [2:25:15, 2:25:16]: On the front, Ian. [2:25:17, 2:25:18]: That's what I'm challenged with. [2:25:19, 2:25:21]: That is what I have an issue with when [2:25:22, 2:25:23]: When things like this are kinda [2:25:24, 2:25:25]: Dropped in our lap. [2:25:26, 2:25:29]: And we're forced to make a decision like [2:25:29, 2:25:30]: Right now. [2:25:31, 2:25:34]: Had we not planned for this and actually budgeted? [2:25:34, 2:25:36]: For this particular project. [2:25:36, 2:25:37]: Last year. [2:25:38, 2:25:39]: So I'm I'm torn. [2:25:40, 2:25:41]: I know it has to happen. [2:25:41, 2:25:42]: It needs to happen. [2:25:43, 2:25:48]: It's just we haven't planned for it properly. That's all. [2:25:48, 2:25:53]: Um, have y'all thought about like a maybe [2:25:53, 2:25:54]: Some type of [2:25:55, 2:25:57]: Down in the pit area. [2:25:57, 2:26:07]: I mean, I think that we when we the reason why'cause at first I was like, Well, why don't we just make it concrete like the rest of it? But when you really think of that, you know, [2:26:08, 2:26:13]: the the vision and the look itself is a part of [2:26:13, 2:26:28]: the why the amphitheater and the ambiance is what it is. Have you ever thought about maybe a some type of flat red rug, carpet down on fixed, covering the concrete on the bot on the pit area? [2:26:28, 2:26:33]: Maybe that brings out the the VIP ish. [2:26:33, 2:26:39]: Uh no, I'm not saying black. I'm saying red. A red uh like a red felt tight [2:26:40, 2:26:41]: Bixed [2:26:42, 2:26:55]: You have weather that you're gonna deal with. You got what? You have weather issues when you have I know. Uh huh. But is there some type of product? What what I'm saying is you we [2:26:55, 2:26:58]: We looked at the design is made. [2:26:59, 2:27:02]: To show different dimensions. Does that make sense? [2:27:02, 2:27:12]: Right. And and you take away from it by making everything one thing bland. It's just like any other amphitheater. But the way ours is so unique. [2:27:13, 2:27:21]: So the color scheme of that hard surface that you guys got right there would hopefully be the green, just like the grass was, right? [2:27:21, 2:27:31]: But what about d if we were to do something down below? I mean, I guess we could keep it the gray or however you want to do it, if you wanted to use that same surface. Or [2:27:33, 2:27:34]: Or [2:27:34, 2:27:37]: Have some type of breathable [2:27:38, 2:27:45]: Flat surface and I I don't know what that what that would be. I don't know if y'all have looked into that or not, but I just thought it would be kind of unique. So [2:27:45, 2:27:50]: One of the things I I wanna address what Councilmember Barber said about [2:27:50, 2:27:57]: The pit and the grassy area, the instructions we were given, there was a concern about the grassy area. The pit was never mentioned. [2:27:57, 2:28:01]: So our instructions were to look at an alternative to the grad section. [2:28:02, 2:28:14]: section of the amphitheater and that's what we did. Now, you know, we're hearing about the pits. We can try one or two options. We can also, on a temporary basis, to see what happened. You can put some type of turf [2:28:14, 2:28:33]: or outdoor carpet, that's nice. And cover that area, leave the drains open so that water drains out of it. And you go a few shows and you see if that actually lowers the temperature. If that helps with the heat down there, then we know we're following the right process and we can put in some type of [2:28:33, 2:28:53]: uh surface like that. But it'll give us an idea because if if you invest a lot of money in something and you still have the same issue, then we're gonna say, well, we invested all of this money. So I think that allows us to get some type of idea of what we need to cool that area down to make it more comfortable for [2:28:53, 2:29:05]: Canopy, some type of covering. I don't know. I know maybe you block the view of I know. I thought about that. You're blocking the view. So but if there's some unique [2:29:06, 2:29:07]: Uh [2:29:07, 2:29:18]: porous type it looks like carpet but maybe it's not carpet, right? Or it's something but it's flat because it's laying on that concrete there. I'm just thinking maybe there's some type of product that we have. [2:29:18, 2:29:27]: All right, Miss Salz and Mayor, you remember we was up at Sandy Springs and they were tearing up all that dirt and they were putting down turf. [2:29:27, 2:29:47]: In that amphitheater right in front of City Hall. Remember that? They were doing the construction on there and they were putting down turf right there. So, whatever the product they're using, I'm sure they probably they probably went down this same road that we're going down now. Maybe we should give them a call and see what it is that they did because that's what they're doing. [2:29:47, 2:29:52]: they were doing. They had the dozers out there and it was on um, you know, putting down the turf. [2:29:52, 2:29:59]: Yeah. Okay. That's something to check into. Is that now you're talking about just for the pit area or you're talking about the pit area. Just for the pit area. Okay. [2:29:59, 2:30:00]: All right. [2:30:00, 2:30:15]: Ms. Barber, go ahead please. Therefore, if there are no other questions, comments, I'd like to make a motion so we can move forward with this. All right, go ahead please. Um I move to approve to replace the grass seating area at the amphitheater. Um [2:30:15, 2:30:18]: not to exceed the [2:30:18, 2:30:22]: Amount of a hundred and sixty five thousand with [2:30:22, 2:30:32]: Is it FBI FlexiPave and KBI Industries? Um piggybacking off of the state's source well contract. [2:30:34, 2:30:54]: That's my motion. Mayor, I'll say I would like to add uh I would like to have let's see if there could be amendment to the motion. I won't add any amendments to my motion. I would ask that there would be a consideration of an amendment to the motion to task staff with reaching out and I appreciate you, but she made the original motion. [2:30:54, 2:30:56]: Yeah. [2:30:56, 2:30:57]: She made an initial motion. [2:30:58, 2:31:05]: Okay. I want to move this meeting along and approve the item as staff has requested. [2:31:05, 2:31:10]: Any further discussions we can do it in the future. But just as staff has requested [2:31:11, 2:31:15]: Okay. I made my motion. If I can ask the city clerk to read back my motion, please. [2:31:18, 2:31:20]: Motion is to approve. [2:31:21, 2:31:30]: The replacement of the grassy area not to exceed one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars, piggybacking on the state contract with Sourcewell. [2:31:32, 2:31:33]: Based on [2:31:35, 2:31:37]: The public works director. [2:31:37, 2:31:38]: Recommendation. [2:31:39, 2:31:48]: Can we add a color? That's gonna it's gonna I think it's gonna be green. It wasn't specified. Okay. It's it' uh uh he asked about a color and I would imagine it'd be green. [2:31:48, 2:31:49]: Mm-hmm. [2:31:49, 2:31:50]: Further. [2:31:50, 2:32:00]: Yeah. Excuse me? Which one was it like? Well d uh th this this is well this is g is well this is green and brown. Got brown thing in it, but it I think it should be green. [2:32:01, 2:32:02]: All right. [2:32:03, 2:32:10]: It's green. No no no hold a second, Alexander. It's her mo it's her motion now. So are you willing to put add another color green in this? [2:32:11, 2:32:12]: What? [2:32:12, 2:32:17]: Green. Green. Green. Green. Using the green color. All right. [2:32:18, 2:32:21]: All right, all right. Thank you. So no problem, sir. Is there a second to a motion? [2:32:22, 2:32:25]: My second. Miss okay, Miss Gantt second. All favor please indicate? [2:32:26, 2:32:46]: Wait, wait. Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait. It's only for the gr the grass part, right? But but y you've already given us the direct the to move forward with looking at the pit area. So we're gonna do that. But we're gonna get this. No. Oh, okay. [2:32:46, 2:32:55]: It's but it this is for the grass. Yes it is. Okay. We're gonna do that first and then we're gonna move forward with the Miss Barber to Miss Gantt the motion's been made. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. [2:32:56, 2:32:58]: She now says thank you, folks. Appreciate it. [2:32:59, 2:33:05]: Okay, announcements and upcoming events, uh meetings and events. So coming meetings and event announcements uh [2:33:05, 2:33:25]: Council meetings will be held in the City Council Chamber's meeting dates, locations, times, and subject change, or contact city hall offices 770-389-7900, or visit the website at www.stopbridgega.org for updates. Citywide Development Authority meetings second Tuesday of each month. The City Hall and the Levi meeting room. [2:33:25, 2:33:45]: 6 p.m. February 11th. The Community Zoning Informational Meeting, Thursday from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. City Hall, Council Chambers, February 12th. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting on the second floor of each month at 9 a.m. Location Downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, February 14th. [2:33:45, 2:33:46]: Yeah. [2:33:47, 2:34:07]: Downtown Development Authority meeting, third Tuesday of each month, at Downtown Connection Center, 130, ML King Senior Heritage Trail, February 18th. 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[2:34:44, 2:35:04]: Join Councilwoman Barber for the annual prom dress collection and giveaway at Murrill Manor's Conference Center, accepting donations of new and gently used prom dresses on Sunday, February 16th, and the free giveaway addresses to local teens on Sunday, February 23rd. More information to follow. Join Councilman Thomas for the monthly Bingo Bash. [2:35:04, 2:35:24]: On Wednesday, February 19th from 10 a.m. to two uh to noon, actually, Rural Manor's Conference Center. And lots of fun to be had by all. Join Councilwoman Councilman Alexander on a quarterly town hall on Thursday, February 20th, 7 p.m. in Oaks at the Eagles Landing 70, 2700 Patrick Henry Parkway. Join Councilman Thomas for [2:35:24, 2:35:36]: annual African American celebration. Sir, I'm sorry. Let's I need that we need to correct that. What's that? Right, Rosalind. Okay. The dogs at Eagle the Dogs at Eagles Landing is not is private. [2:35:38, 2:35:39]: And we're doing [2:35:40, 2:35:41]: Yeah. [2:35:41, 2:35:45]: You're talking about your town hall, sir? Yeah, it's not at that time. What is the time? [2:35:46, 2:35:48]: It's not at the Oaks though, is it? [2:35:50, 2:35:55]: Right. We're d we'd we're gonna do that. One's gonna be at uh JW event suite. [2:35:56, 2:36:16]: At seven o'clock. JW event suites on Eagles Landing Parkway at seven o'clock on the five. On the twentieth of February. Yes. Okay, there you go. All right. Join Councilman Thomas for an annual African American celebration on Saturday, February twenty second. Your program was be s live streamed from five PM to seven PM on City's Facebook page. Join me. [2:36:16, 2:36:36]: Mayor Ford on monthly meet the mayor on Monday, February twenty fourth from ten AM to noon at City Hall. Meetings will are by appointment. Councilman Thomas is honoring veterans and continues to salute to all year long. Please send your pictures of veterans with their names, rank uh branch, rank, and years of service. And once again join Councilman Thomas with for the Don't Trash Strawbridge Initiative. Senator [2:36:36, 2:36:46]: around education highlighting the cause and effects of littering and illegal dumping. Of course more information to follow about that. Want to everybody Friday is happy Val it's Valentine's Day, so happy Valentine's Day to everyone. [2:36:47, 2:36:55]: And you realize that in the United States of America, a national bird is the eagle. So congratulations to the the birds. [2:36:55, 2:36:59]: Of Philadelphia for winning the Super Bowl fly and bowl Eagles fly. [2:37:00, 2:37:06]: Congratulations them. Taylor. Okay. Hope hopefully it's all right. You know that great. [2:37:06, 2:37:26]: Uh nice little game. November uh COVID nineteen, uh still out there. I mean Cov you can get your boots out for COVID nineteen and put and get your flu shots once you be healthy and uh in this aspect. And uh Saturday night uh the Starberry's Police Department had the second annual the night uh amongst the stars gallow and uh [2:37:26, 2:37:46]: Dr. Thomas Smith, which is the chairman of the Citizens Police Advisory Council, made a couple special presentations due to the individuals on a city staff that have been doing great things for that advisory council. And two outstanding ladies were presented the President's Volunteer Service Awards, and they go to Vanessa Holiday. [2:37:46, 2:37:46]: Me? [2:37:47, 2:38:07]: And Rosem Rawls got honored. Got a so got a uh uh uh uh I guess you call a medallion and a and a present in a form there. So thank you ladies for helping out. Yeah, outstanding staff uh staff individuals doing a great job for for us all. And also what was honored um uh Stockbridge Police Department honored the [2:38:07, 2:38:17]: Youth Volunteer of the Year Saturday night also. And that was Taylor Raines from Ownstarbridge Youth Council. I got acknowledged and honored for her efforts there as well. [2:38:17, 2:38:21]: So uh thank you for all those ladies and all the things that they're doing. [2:38:21, 2:38:25]: And on that note that is it. So I need a mo no [2:38:37, 2:38:50]: On that note, ladies and gentlemen, uh no zek no not of executing session. We don't need that, so I need a motion to end our meeting. So moved. Is uh is there from Miss Barber to Mr. Berry? All in favor, please indicate. Good night. We adjourned. [2:38:54, 2:38:55]:

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Um ladies, I want you to come on this side, please. [0:01:17, 0:01:31]: I'm let me before I get started, just let me ask you this. Anybody else is anybody else that was coming to see you get sworn, are they here yet or is right everybody everybody's here? Okay. And ri I'll wait a second, let's you go okay and get in here. [0:01:33, 0:01:38]: All right, that's uh a friend, family, your daughter. How you doing, daughter? [0:01:39, 0:01:40]: Okay. [0:01:41, 0:02:01]: Oh it is it it oh yeah. I should have recognized that. Absolutely. Well what welcome back to see your mom get sworn in. Oh okay, I absolutely ladies if you can get side by side, just side by side. Uh come come on come on this way. No, no, face on before face me. Okay. All right, so we'll do this. Raise your right hand please. Okay, and uh um I'll read it slowly. [0:02:01, 0:02:21]: So you can repeat after me. Aye and state your name. I Aisha Gambles. Committee member. Committee member. Do solemnly swear and affirm. Do solemnly swear and affirm. That I will faithfully perform. That I will faithfully perform. The duties of the youth council advisory committee. The duties of the youth council advisory committee. Of the city of Stockbridge. Of the city of Stockbridge. And that I will to the best of my ability. [0:02:21, 0:02:41]: To the best of my ability. Support and defend. Support and defend. The charter thereof. The charter thereof. As well as the constitution. As well as the constitution. And laws of the state of Georgia. And laws of the state of Georgia. And the United States of America. And the United States of America. I further affirm that. I further affirm that. Upon assumption of this office. Upon assumption of this office. I do not hold any understanding. [0:02:41, 0:03:01]: Unaccounted for public money. Any unaccounted for public money. Do unpayable to the state. Doing payable to the state. Any political subdivision of the state. Any political subdivision of the state. The city of Stockbridge. The city of Stockbridge. Or any authority thereof. Or any authority thereof. Nor do I hold. Nor do I hold any other office of trust of the government of the United States. [0:03:01, 0:03:21]: States by the government of the United States of this state of this state or any foreign state as prescribed by the law of the state of Georgia by the law of the state of Georgia. I will perform the duties of my office in the best interest of the city of Stockbridge to the best of my ability without fear. [0:03:20, 0:03:39]: Without fear. Favor. Favor. Affection. Affection. Reward. Reward. Right. Expectation thereof. Or expectation thereof. It's the tenth day of February 2020. And whenever I do this, you have the floor. If any of you want to make any comments in reference to your new appointment, please have that. Any anyone at any what do you want to say? [0:03:45, 0:03:50]: Okay. This is yours here. This is here. [0:03:53, 0:03:57]: What's on that? [0:03:59, 0:04:01]: Just slide. No, no, you got two of them. [0:04:10, 0:04:13]: Okay, Ms. Jones? Yes. [0:04:18, 0:04:20]: Yeah, there's two of'em, one right underneath there as well. [0:04:26, 0:04:28]: Of course let me send this one a s [0:04:34, 0:04:37]: Okay, Ms. Bengalwell? Right, we signed yours as well. [0:04:41, 0:05:01]: Anybody you any I mean you don't have to, I'm just of offering you got you have to s it's t two of them, I think. You have to sign two. It's one right there as well. And once you sign these, Miss uh Anessa Holiday assigned it as well and she'll be able to give you a copy that we have them for a file. But um if you have no comments, it's fine. I just want to offer the floor to you if you need and p okay she's got that. You can take a we'll take a picture. [0:05:01, 0:05:01]: Yeah. [0:05:02, 0:05:07]: The brightness and right here should be fine. Is this good? Okay. [0:05:16, 0:05:23]: Thank you. Once again, thank you very much. Thank you for serving on the council there. And this is really fantastic. It's great. [0:05:23, 0:05:35]: She went through and moms come there doing the bottom, that's good stuff. Okay. Okay, yeah, we need to make it a little bit more. So listen. [0:05:38, 0:05:45]: Yeah. I'll stay on the end of the different okay. This this is it? [0:05:49, 0:05:55]: [358.2, 362.1]: All right. Good deal. All right. Okay. [0:06:29, 0:06:30]: Alright, well. [0:06:30, 0:06:33]: What I actually have here, ladies and gentlemen, is uh [0:06:33, 0:06:53]: The proclamation for Black History One. All right, now what I'd like to say to you all is that uh the city of Stockbridge for many, many years has given out proclamations and we do an I think do an excellent job of this because our clerk and her staff make sure that all the proclamations are framed. Okay. [0:06:53, 0:07:13]: So all the proclamations for every every time we get one out is framed. Uh we we want to honor our diversity in our community. So this is Black History Month, and we'll have special expert uh uh expressions and gratitude for Hispanics and Asians and LDB TQ, whatever domestic violence, whatever the case maybe we always do [0:07:13, 0:07:33]: That and we'll continue to do that in the studio stop raising to honor our diverse community and uh and recognize them in this aspect. So this is Black History Month, all right? Whereas in 1915, uh Dr. Carter Goodwin Woodson, noted black scholar, the son of former slaves, founded the Association of Study of Negro Life and History. [0:07:33, 0:07:53]: Which was later renamed the Association of Study of African Americans' Life and History, A-S-A-L-H. And whereas each February National Black History once serves as both a celebration and a powerful reminder that Black history is American history, black culture is American culture, and black stories are essential to ongoing story in America. Our faults are struggled. [0:07:53, 0:08:13]: Our progress and our aspirations. Whereas during National Black History Month, we celebrate the legacy of Black Americans whose power to lead, to overcome, expand the meaning and practice of American democracy has helped our nation become more fair and just society. Whereas the 2025 Black History Month theme, African Americans and Labor highlights [0:08:13, 0:08:33]: Celebrates the significant contribution of African Americans with all occupations for service and by acknowledging their past labor struggles. Whereas the struggles and challenges of Black American story to make a way out of no way have been a crucial, crucial, whereas our resolve and field division has most often been tested. [0:08:33, 0:08:53]: Testimony. Whereas Black America struggles for freedom, equal treatment, and the right to vote, for equal opportunities in education, housing, and workplace, for economic opportunity, equal justice, and political representation, and also much more have reformed our democracy far beyond the founding of America. Black Americans have made a way not only for [0:08:53, 0:09:13]: For themselves, but also have helped build a highway for millions of women, immigrants, historically marginalized communities, allowing Americans to move fully and fully fully experience the benefits of our society. And our for I have to miss for our virtual authority vests to me, the American City of Star Village, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton Alison and your London Department of Kyle Fair. [0:09:13, 0:09:33]: Keys again and Alfonso Thomas, who hereby proclaim February 2025 as National Black History Month, and we recall all public officials, educators, librarians, and others to observe with relevant programs, ceremonies, and activities. And witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in Grace Seal City, Starbucks, Georgia on the 10th day of February, year of our Lord, 2008. [0:09:33, 0:09:49]: and twenty five and a sign of proclamation law we're up to when it's a holiday so I just want to make sure I say that for you all. Yeah all those anybody's interested come on up come on up. [0:09:50, 0:09:52]: Here it's one. [0:09:53, 0:09:58]: Matter of fact, uh I'm gonna give this to you. You come here and sit down in the middle, I'm gonna have to give that to you, okay? [0:10:00, 0:10:01]: Come on, folks. [0:10:03, 0:10:21]: We might have to double up some a little bit. Some might want to come down this this way. Come come one. Yeah next you might yeah, come on down here a little bit. Yeah, we got never to join you. Okay. Do we good here? [0:10:23, 0:10:43]: Y'all can get two. As a matter of fact, if you don't want if you don't mind that's right, you'll give y'all let it play. Okay, hold hold it. [0:10:43, 0:10:49]: The end point? I know? Okay. Okay. Is that really pictures? Yes. Okay. Okay. [0:11:03, 0:11:10]: And then I'll bring me a four and you add it or we just say have you like history? Sure. Okay, I'm pretty unless you're a rehearsal person. [0:11:12, 0:11:16]: One, two, three. Happy Black History! [0:11:23, 0:11:31]: Happy black history! Alright, thank you very much, appreciate it. [0:11:31, 0:11:50]: Good day. No problem. So you're more than welcome to stay for it. Probably meetings when we get started. More than welcome. Matter of fact, matter of fact, you can keep that. Oh nice. It's yours. It's your sir. Okay, it's okay. Okay. [0:11:57, 0:12:08]: Awesome. But [0:12:10, 0:12:14]: [735.6, 741.7]: Yeah, I'm just um I I actually wanted to put five. [0:12:22, 0:12:30]: I was right, right? [0:12:35, 0:12:43]: [773.3, 780.0]: Okay, sort of so I know we've got the nice. Okay. Okay, absolutely. [0:13:00, 0:13:01]: So [0:13:06, 0:13:09]: I'm going to [0:13:31, 0:13:33]: So just it's a beginning to make. [0:13:35, 0:13:36]: Turn here as well. [0:13:43, 0:13:46]: Thank you for your support. Okay. [0:13:48, 0:13:51]: Yes, uh [0:16:13, 0:16:27]: And I believe we're still on, but if we're still on, I wanna let you know, ladies and gentlemen, that a URA meeting would be it's gonna be postponed until another date. We'll let you know when a public meeting will be held. We plan to start our regular council meeting for the month of uh February on time at six o'clock. Thank you.

--- title: Planning Commission Special Called Meeting date: 2025-01-30 source: 2025-01-30_Planning_Commission_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:02]: Just waiting to see. Oh, answer. [0:00:03, 0:00:09]: Well, we don't have to have'em because we actually have enough members. So we got a quorum. [0:00:15, 0:00:16]: Mr. Chair. [0:00:17, 0:00:18]: We have an election. [0:00:18, 0:00:19]: Yeah. [0:00:19, 0:00:21]: Yes. That's correct. [0:00:22, 0:00:42]: Mr. Chair. Yes, before we begin a meeting, I would like to make a public statement in regards to the agenda. And this is the sake of having a public meeting that this agenda that we will be reading from tonight is different from the agenda on the website. So I must make [0:00:42, 0:00:50]: Make a public statement that we will be reading from the agenda other than what was posted to the public. [0:00:52, 0:00:54]: Thank you, Ms. Jackson. [0:00:57, 0:01:05]: Now 631, the Planning Commission meeting for January 30th will now come to order. [0:01:05, 0:01:05]: Mm-hmm. [0:01:08, 0:01:12]: Madam Secretary, a roll call please. Um s yes, ma'am. Go ahead. [0:01:17, 0:01:18]: Stanley Dumas? [0:01:18, 0:01:18]: Present. [0:01:20, 0:01:21]: Anthony Mitten. [0:01:21, 0:01:21]: Present. [0:01:23, 0:01:24]: Harold Tibro. [0:01:25, 0:01:26]: President. [0:01:27, 0:01:28]: David Planchton. [0:01:31, 0:01:34]: Jaden Williams. Present. Ramika Walker. [0:01:35, 0:01:35]: Right. [0:01:36, 0:01:45]: Okay, Mr. Chairman, we have a quorum and I wanna just wanna mention that in your present packet you have some additional uh reference materials that you might want to look at. [0:01:45, 0:01:47]: I'm sorry, I didn't hear you. [0:01:48, 0:01:54]: In your packets you have some additional reference materials that you might want to look at. Okay. Thank you. [0:01:56, 0:01:56]: Thank you. [0:01:57, 0:02:00]: We'll now prepare for an invitation. Mr. Mitchin, please. [0:02:02, 0:02:22]: Every head bowed, every eye closed, please. Heavenly Father, we thank you for the opportunity to be here tonight. We ask that you give each of us a quiet heart, civility, listen to one another, good grace. Help us to do our job, to do it well. Be with us all as we go from this place. Take us home safely. For it is in your blessed name we ask this. [0:02:22, 0:02:23]: Amen. [0:02:23, 0:02:28]: Yeah. Good man. Let us stand for the players, please. [0:02:31, 0:02:44]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic of which it stands, one nation under God, invisible with liberty and justice all. [0:03:05, 0:03:06]: Tonight's meeting [0:03:07, 0:03:11]: Will constitute a public hearing on certain items on the agenda. [0:03:14, 0:03:17]: Therefore, I would like to cover a few protocols. [0:03:18, 0:03:21]: Things that I need to make aware of before we start. [0:03:23, 0:03:26]: And I ask that you listen closely on how tonight's meeting will be conducted. [0:03:29, 0:03:38]: Ask that you keep the comments and presentations on a professional level, dealing with facts that are important for this commission to make its decision. [0:03:40, 0:03:46]: We will not accept comments that are considered by the chair to be a personal attack. [0:03:46, 0:03:49]: on any individual or group of individuals. [0:03:51, 0:03:55]: You will receive a warning from the chair if you deviate from this requirement. [0:03:57, 0:04:03]: A second deviation will result in the request for you to leave the meeting and the premises for the evening. [0:04:06, 0:04:10]: I ask that you refrain from any applause or comments from the audience. [0:04:11, 0:04:13]: Only one person will be talking down the time. [0:04:15, 0:04:21]: And all comments will be made at the podium after the speaker has been recognized by the chair. [0:04:23, 0:04:27]: Please direct all comments to the chair and the commission. [0:04:27, 0:04:29]: Not to the audience or staff. [0:04:32, 0:04:35]: Please do not applaud or react to speakers. [0:04:36, 0:04:43]: Speak from the audience, cheer, or carry on a conversation with others in the audience. [0:04:44, 0:04:47]: Or disrupt the order of this meeting in any way. [0:04:50, 0:04:54]: Beware that these hearings are not a debate. [0:04:54, 0:04:59]: Or an opportunity to ask questions which must be answered by any individual tonight. [0:05:01, 0:05:05]: But merely an opportunity to present information to the Commission. [0:05:08, 0:05:09]: other than the applicant. [0:05:10, 0:05:12]: No person may speak more than once but [0:05:14, 0:05:19]: The applicant may reserve part of his speaking time as rebuttal. [0:05:19, 0:05:26]: and may speak next and last and may use the entire ten minutes allotted for the pro side of the application. [0:05:29, 0:05:32]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak longer than five minutes. [0:05:36, 0:05:39]: If you have a cell phone or other electronic device, [0:05:41, 0:05:45]: I ask that you either power them off or put them in the silent mode. [0:05:48, 0:06:00]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight, please fill out a speaker's form, which is available on the table up front, and hand it to a staffing member before approaching the podium. [0:06:03, 0:06:13]: After each item or case is called, we will hear next from the city staff and then we will hear from the applicant or their representative. [0:06:15, 0:06:17]: About what plans are for the property. [0:06:18, 0:06:22]: Along with any relevant information which they wish to present. [0:06:25, 0:06:30]: The commission members will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote on a project. [0:06:32, 0:06:33]: Following the applicant. [0:06:34, 0:06:36]: Anyone who wishes to speak for or [0:06:37, 0:06:39]: О Агансте прожект. [0:06:40, 0:06:41]: Or just ask questions. [0:06:42, 0:06:44]: will have the opportunity to do so. [0:06:47, 0:06:51]: Each side is restricted to a maximum of ten minutes. [0:06:52, 0:06:56]: Or time may be waived at the discretion of the presiding officer. [0:06:58, 0:07:03]: If questions are raised, we may ask the applicant to speak again. [0:07:05, 0:07:08]: Afterward we will call for a motion and second. [0:07:09, 0:07:10]: Have any necessary discussion? [0:07:12, 0:07:14]: And if the matter is not table, we will vote. [0:07:15, 0:07:17]: To recommend approval. [0:07:17, 0:07:19]: Or to deny the application. [0:07:22, 0:07:25]: The commission is only a recommending body. [0:07:27, 0:07:33]: The item will be heard by the mayor and council whether we recommend approval or recommend denial. [0:07:35, 0:07:40]: Unless they are tabled, these items will be heard by the city's mayor and council. [0:07:42, 0:07:43]: At their meeting. [0:07:44, 0:07:45]: In February [0:07:46, 0:07:49]: And the items will be voted upon that meeting. [0:08:00, 0:08:05]: Mr. D. I need a motion from the commission, please, to adopt the agenda. [0:08:07, 0:08:09]: Mr. Chairman, make the motion to adopt. [0:08:10, 0:08:11]: And Harold, I'll second it. [0:08:11, 0:08:21]: It's been moved and second that we adopt the agenda. All in favor let it be done by a show of hands. Sign of aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? [0:08:24, 0:08:27]: It's unanimous. Agenda has been adopted. [0:08:31, 0:08:35]: You have before you minutes from our December nineteenth meeting. [0:08:37, 0:08:41]: If you have not already done so, I would ask that you take a moment [0:08:42, 0:08:44]: To peruse the [0:08:45, 0:08:46]: Minutes. [0:08:50, 0:08:52]: And making the necessary corrections. [0:08:54, 0:09:10]: Just ma'am, Ms. Second. Mr. Karen, um would y would you make sure after each um motion and and vote is made to just repeat for the record who made the motion, who seconded the motion, and whatever the vote was for a particular Sure. Absolutely. I would do that. [0:09:13, 0:09:20]: If there are no corrections, uh I would ask for a motion to approve the minutes from our December meeting. [0:09:20, 0:09:26]: Chair. Yes, sir. Motion to move the agenda minutes from the December twenty twenty four meeting. [0:09:28, 0:09:29]: Is there a second? [0:09:31, 0:09:41]: I'll second it, Errol. It's been moved by Mr. Williams. Second by Mr. I'm sorry. Yes, that's right. Second by Mr. Thibodeau. [0:09:42, 0:09:48]: That we approve the minutes from our decimal meeting. All in favor, let it be known by the sign of I. [0:09:48, 0:09:49]: Uh hi. [0:09:49, 0:09:50]: Any opposed? [0:09:52, 0:09:54]: The eyes have it, the minus all proof. [0:09:55, 0:09:57]: It's unanimous vote. [0:10:02, 0:10:05]: The next item on our agenda is [0:10:05, 0:10:07]: Election of officers. [0:10:16, 0:10:18]: Staff, are you gonna conduct that portion of the meeting? [0:10:33, 0:10:53]: Okay, good evening. How's everyone? Tonight we will conduct the twenty twenty-five election of board members. Um as of now we have Stanley Dumas as the chair and Mr. Anthony Mitten as the vice chair. So tonight we would like to open the floor for nominations and then we will vote. [0:10:53, 0:11:02]: vote after those nominations and so um what we vote on will be immediately um into effect. [0:11:07, 0:11:12]: So if we can, we can start with the chair nominations. Are there any nominations for chair? [0:11:20, 0:11:24]: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to nominate Mr. Jaden Williams for chair. [0:11:27, 0:11:32]: If you could say that again, Mr. Mitten. Yes, I'd like to nominate Mr. Jaden Williams for chair. [0:11:35, 0:11:36]: Do you accept that nomination? [0:11:39, 0:11:40]: Uh I'll accept. [0:11:42, 0:11:44]: Believe we need a second, don't we? [0:11:45, 0:11:46]: A second. [0:11:50, 0:11:54]: For all that are in favor, say aye. Uh or raise your hand. [0:11:58, 0:12:04]: And so it is, Jalen, you are the chair for Planning Commission twenty twenty five. [0:12:06, 0:12:08]: We would like to motion, please. [0:12:09, 0:12:18]: I'm sorry? Who seconded the motion? Miss uh Walker seconded. Yes. Yes. And it was unanimous. [0:12:19, 0:12:20]: Right. [0:12:24, 0:12:28]: Now we would like to open the floor for nominations for vice chair. [0:12:38, 0:12:40]: I would like to nominate Mr. Doom is [0:12:44, 0:12:45]: I'll second. [0:12:47, 0:12:50]: Do you accept this nomination, Mr. Dumas? [0:12:51, 0:12:58]: I really would like to give someone else an opportunity to serve as an officer since I've been chair already. [0:12:58, 0:12:59]: And Vice Chair. [0:13:01, 0:13:01]: Okay. [0:13:02, 0:13:06]: That nomination is now dead, so we will take another nomination. [0:13:07, 0:13:27]: Is there are there any requirements to be the vice chair or chair? None at all specifically? No, just maybe take the chair's position when it's not yet. Okay. Well I'll I'll um make a nomination for um Miss Walker, Commissioner Walker to be service the vice chair. [0:13:29, 0:13:32]: Ms. Walker, would you accept that nomination? [0:13:33, 0:13:33]: Yes. [0:13:37, 0:13:41]: Miss Walker has accepted. Do I get a second? I'll second it, Harold. [0:13:42, 0:13:50]: Okay, seconded by Mr. Thibodeau. May I have a raise of hands for all those that are agree? [0:13:51, 0:13:53]: Okay, we have no nays. [0:13:54, 0:14:11]: That completes the nominations for twenty twenty five. So as chair, we have Jalen Williams as the chair of the Planning Commission, and we have Miss Walker as the vice chair of the Planning Commission. Congratulations. [0:14:17, 0:14:18]: Thank you, Miss Jackson. [0:14:24, 0:14:33]: Since Mr Williams is now the new chairman, perhaps you'd like to provide him with the script or actually I have another another copy. Never mind, I have another copy. They need the trade seats. [0:15:27, 0:15:29]: Spirit with us everyone. [0:15:35, 0:15:46]: All right, so that happened. Let's move on with the rest of the agenda. Uh next on the next item on the agenda is the adoption of the official twenty twenty-five zoning and future land use map. [0:15:52, 0:16:08]: Yeah, okay. I while staff comes out reading to record. Consideration of the amendment and adoption of the official city of Stockbridge twenty twenty five zoning and future land use maps to be in compliance with the Stockbridge Unified Develop m development code, which served as the city's zoning ordinance. [0:16:19, 0:16:21]: Once again, good evening. [0:16:21, 0:16:40]: Before you, we have the 2025 zoning and future land use maps. These map changes consist of zoning cases that have come before you from June of 2023 to December 31st of 2024. And before you, in your packet, you will have [0:16:40, 0:16:50]: a list of those cases starting with the project name, the parcel numbers, approval dates, case numbers, and um [0:16:52, 0:17:00]: Again, approval dates. So in your packet, I for sake of time we I won't read each one. [0:17:00, 0:17:13]: But for your um understanding, we do have Miss Walker as a new member. Um so these cases were approved by Planning Commission and will then go they went to city council. [0:17:16, 0:17:20]: Um so with that information stated, um let's [0:17:21, 0:17:35]: If you look at the first page, um the cases start with Keith Nation and it has our approval date of June 23, June 12th, 2023. And if we go to the second [0:17:37, 0:17:38]: Page. [0:17:39, 0:17:59]: Um it takes us so the second page on the back. Um it takes us through RZ 202403, um approved December 9th, 2024. So we just we need your approval to adopt these maps. [0:17:59, 0:18:05]: So that we can make the necessary changes w with our GIS. [0:18:07, 0:18:09]: Thank you. Are there any questions from the board? [0:18:14, 0:18:31]: Okay, I'll now open it up for a public hearing. Uh during this hearing, please understand that the rules made by the are the rules set from the prior chair are still in effect when we open the hearing. So I'll now open it up for public hearing. Are there any in affirmative of the land use maps and the zoning maps? [0:18:35, 0:18:37]: Once again, any in the affirmative? [0:18:39, 0:18:44]: All right. Is there anyone against the maps? You have the opportunity at this time. [0:18:54, 0:18:57]: Please come forward and tell us your uh name and your address. [0:19:02, 0:19:22]: Good evening. My name is Jocelyn Williams, 190 Banks Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia, 30281. The opposition I have for the adoption of the official 2025 zoning and future land use maps. When we had the meeting due to the storm and didn't have a chance to really get a chance to observe. [0:19:22, 0:19:42]: Serve and you know, really put anything into motion for me and uh my neighbors. Uh I'm in opposition. I just needed a little bit more time. Um just really found out about the meeting tonight. So that's what my opposition, just a little bit more time so I could have to study uh with making sure everything is in. [0:19:42, 0:19:50]: With the compliance with the Stockbridge Unified UDC, which serves the city zoning, because I'm new also to annexation. Thank you. [0:19:51, 0:19:52]: Thank you. [0:19:53, 0:19:57]: Is there any other uh person that would like to speak in the negative? [0:19:59, 0:19:59]: Okay. [0:20:00, 0:20:09]: I will now close the public hearing. The board will now take a vote on the adoption of the 2025 zoning and future land use maps. Do I hear a motion? [0:20:11, 0:20:12]: Mr. Chairman. [0:20:12, 0:20:13]: Yes. [0:20:14, 0:20:20]: Hope that we're talking official twenty twenty five volume and future lands maps. [0:20:21, 0:20:24]: And now Harold. Second it. [0:20:25, 0:20:27]: Commissioner Doomis has made a motion. [0:20:27, 0:20:35]: Commissioner uh Thibodeau has seconded. All those in favor, please signify by the sound of aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? [0:20:35, 0:20:36]: So move. [0:20:38, 0:20:41]: The next item on tonight's agenda is the annexation case. [0:20:41, 0:20:47]: Mr. Chair, excuse me, before you begin, can you read them all together? I will. Thank you. [0:20:50, 0:20:51]: Okay. [0:20:55, 0:20:55]: Right. [0:20:56, 0:21:16]: I'm going to read the following cases into record. Annexation case AX-2024-02. Consideration of the annexation request using 100% annexation method for annex two parcels at 1778 and 1872 Highway 42 North from unincorporated Henry County into. [0:21:16, 0:21:19]: into the stock bridge c city limits to allow for construction [0:21:20, 0:21:40]: of a mixed residential development which would can contain both single family detached homes and townhomes. The owner is Rowan Properties. The applicant is Meritage Homes. Uh contact is Clay Kirkley, Agent Hallie Todd. The property is located in the land lot 35 in District 7. [0:21:40, 0:21:44]: And it contains forty-eight point fifty nine more or less total acres. [0:21:45, 0:22:02]: Comprehensive Plan Amendment Case CP-2024-09. Consideration of a comprehensive plan amendment request to assign the future land use designation of medium density residential to two parcels at 1778 and 1872 Highway 42 North. [0:22:03, 0:22:23]: After their annexation into the city of Stockbridge from unincorporated Henry County to allow for the construction of a mixed residential development, which would contain both single-family detached homes and townhomes. Property is located in Land Lot 35 in District 7, and it contains 48.59 more or less acres. [0:22:23, 0:22:43]: And then finally, the rezoning case, RZ-2024-10. Consideration of a rezoning request to assign the zoning districts of PUD and PMU to district our two parcels at 1778 and 1872 Highway 42 North. After their annexation into the city of Stockbridge from unincorporated. [0:22:43, 0:22:58]: Henry County to allow for the construction of a mixed residential development which contains both single family detached homes and townhomes. The property is located in Land Lot 35 in District 7 and it contains 48.59 more or less total acres. [0:23:05, 0:23:18]: Thank you, Mr. Chair. The first case before us is an annexation AS dash twenty twenty-four-zero two for properties at seventeen seventy-eight and eighteen seventy-two. [0:23:20, 0:23:28]: The properties in question consist of parcels number zero eight nine dash zero one zero zero [0:23:28, 0:23:33]: one zero zero three that consists of seventeen seventy eight highway forty two north [0:23:34, 0:23:44]: And eighteen seventy-two, Highway 42 North consists of parcel number 089-0100-1000. [0:23:44, 0:24:04]: The properties in question has a total of 48.17 acres. Meritage Homes is seeking to annex these two properties into the city of Stockbridge from the unincorporated Henry County. The parcels again consist of the total acres of 48.17, 48.17. [0:24:04, 0:24:11]: Um the property is located along the eastern side of Highway Forty Two and Campground Road. [0:24:11, 0:24:31]: The annexation is consistent with the city's plan and will not have any negative FET or undue burden on the city's resources. The annexation will also be beneficial to the city because it is adding growth revenue and more commercial services to the city of Stockbridge. [0:24:31, 0:24:43]: The two parcels are contiguous with the city's limitations or limits of Stockbridge staff used. We use the one hundred percent method for the per proposed annexation. [0:24:48, 0:24:55]: As far as the properties description um that was conveyed or as you can see in your staff report. [0:24:56, 0:25:16]: I do would like to uh announce that one 1.5 acres of the floodplain, of the property is located in the floodplain, that it is the northern parcel of this development. Um, as far as the analysis that staff reviewed to determine our recommendation for this annexation. [0:25:16, 0:25:33]: You can find that on your page 10 of the staff report. So the first consists of the property as contiguous with the existing corporate limits with at least one eighth of the aggregate external boundaries. [0:25:33, 0:25:53]: Um as I stated that yes, um one hundred percent they meet the method of the annexation requirements. Um other analysis will be found on page eleven and twelve. Um different questions or analysis that staff will have to review to come to the conclusion of our [0:25:53, 0:26:13]: recommendation. Um it does it is consistent with the comprehensive plan. Um we are taking the property or annexing the property from Henry County um to the city limits. And with these analyses that staff reviewed, we have come to the conclusion that we do [0:26:13, 0:26:20]: to approve um the seeking of annexation within the city of Stockbridge. [0:26:22, 0:26:23]: Thank you, Ms. Jackson. [0:26:26, 0:26:28]: Are there any questions from the board for staff? [0:26:29, 0:26:35]: I I have a question. Have have we done any Mr. Chair, may I you may speak. [0:26:36, 0:26:40]: Uh have we done any studies as far as traffic um [0:26:41, 0:26:42]: In that general area. [0:26:43, 0:26:45]: And uh have we done any studies with the community? [0:26:46, 0:26:46]: And that [0:26:47, 0:26:48]: Area also. [0:26:48, 0:26:49]: has the [0:26:50, 0:26:52]: individual property owners. [0:26:52, 0:26:53]: Establish any [0:26:54, 0:26:57]: uh relationship with the community in that area. [0:27:01, 0:27:11]: So per my knowledge, there were no traffic study reports submitted to staff. Um, I think that question is better suited for the applicant to address. [0:27:15, 0:27:17]: Are there any other questions from board members? [0:27:20, 0:27:24]: Is the applicant present? Would you like this opportunity to speak? [0:27:35, 0:27:36]: I'll accept this one. [0:27:37, 0:27:47]: Can I ask a a question real quick before we start? Got some handouts of the presentation. Are you guys able to see the presentation in front of you as well? Or would you guys want a a hard copy? [0:27:49, 0:27:50]: We can take a hard copy, you can give it to the [0:27:51, 0:27:53]: Thank you for those. [0:27:53, 0:28:13]: And then we do do we uh those are just extra. And then do we do the the all three, like the speed the kind of going over all three at at once? So we just read them in the record. So right now you can just talk about the annexation. Okay. And then you have the opportunity for the other two as well. Oh okay, okay. Uh Kenneth Wood 350 Research Court, Peace Tree Corners, George. [0:28:13, 0:28:33]: Georgia. So we're excited to come before you tonight to talk about this. It's it's been kind of a long time coming. We've looked at the parcel uh that's in question uh for for quite a while, talking about what was the what is the best way to develop it, um, what makes the most sense. Um there was a lot of studies done with the reroute of campground. [0:28:33, 0:28:40]: uh about the best way to have turn lanes and everything on to 42, 42 obviously going out to the highway. [0:28:40, 0:28:50]: And so we started by actually looking at the land use maps that you guys see on your screen, uh the existing zoning, how there was a lot of um PUDs within the area. [0:28:51, 0:28:53]: Uh and then how how to best start it off and so [0:28:54, 0:29:05]: Uh months ago, we actually started with an all-residential plan. And as we start first started looking at it, we had kind of a mixture of just townhomes and then one style of single family. [0:29:05, 0:29:25]: And as we actually were able to talk with uh Councilman Alexander and uh Mayor Ford about the area and what were some of the needs, uh we started talking about more of a mixed use and more about commercial and being able to have re restaurants, retail, uh a potential grocery site. Um he kind of described it as a kind of a food desert for a neighborhood. [0:29:25, 0:29:45]: You know, you got out near the interstate some larger ones, but something as more of a mid-size and being able to set that in place at such a prominent intersection. And so the way it's set up, it actually set up really well for the plan that we have. And I'll be able to walk you guys through that. Uh oh, what did I do? Um, which way am I spending? [0:29:45, 0:29:46]: Mr. Clayton. [0:29:47, 0:29:52]: Do I do the arrows to the right and left? Would you like to see those light player or [0:29:52, 0:29:57]: Yeah, I just wanna be able to click through the art the presentation with the presentation. So you want [0:29:58, 0:30:01]: Are we able to pull up the one we have? Yeah. [0:30:03, 0:30:06]: This is the one he has. [0:30:12, 0:30:13]: That's news. Yeah, that's it. [0:30:16, 0:30:17]: Awesome. [0:30:18, 0:30:36]: And just go oh scroll down. Okay. This is the site location you can see. It's on two sides of campground. Um surrounding it mostly uh raw land and then you have obviously forty two on the frontage, and then you have old campground on the bottom of it, and then there's a a small amount of a cemetery. [0:30:36, 0:30:56]: This is where you can see the proposing of the PUD and where it lines up with a lot of the PUDs across the street. Uh in Henry County, the reason we're having to do the future land use map amendment is in Henry County it's actually listed as high density residential. And so when we're looking at the PUD that we are proposing with the mixed use, uh the density is lower. [0:30:56, 0:31:16]: And so it would be medium density. And so that's why the actual land use change that would be adopted as part of it, because it doesn't hit that high density criteria. This would be added to the part of parkway mixed use overlay. And so just to kind of help understand, it would be a PUD zoning that would fall within parkway. [0:31:16, 0:31:20]: [1880.8, 1883.1]: If you kinda see this is our our plan. [0:31:23, 0:31:33]: Like I said, we had an original plan that had both section of these as residential. And then through a a lot of work in the last several months, uh we came out with a plan you see before you. [0:31:34, 0:31:36]: And so this area right through here. [0:31:36, 0:31:40]: This is uh forty two and then this is campground. [0:31:41, 0:31:58]: And so when you come up, we basically situated the retail restaurant buildings up on the front to hide the parking. We have them kind of all around through here with a little open space here. This is a proposed uh kind of like a local grocery uh that we're sitting in this location. [0:31:58, 0:32:01]: We have a full access and kind of a through road here. [0:32:01, 0:32:02]: Um [0:32:02, 0:32:22]: As part of our our traffic in terms of talking with uh the traffic engineer, we need full left full turn lanes and D cell lanes as part of this. And so they would have left turn lanes as well as D cell lanes into both of the full access entrances uh on campground as well as 42. And then we'd have D cell lanes, this access point here and here. [0:32:22, 0:32:42]: Here are limited, meaning uh you can only go right in or right out. But it gives another access point for the commercial and then limits access into the residential. So you don't have residential just pouring out in a lot of different places. We actually ended up changing the residential in a couple of ways. So all [0:32:42, 0:33:02]: The residential on the north part, since it abuts a few residential houses and then mostly open space land, we left that all single family detached. And then on the east side, that would be a small office. It could be like a dental office, uh, some type of a smaller doctor's office, a salon, any anything like that. Uh, it would be conditioned. [0:33:02, 0:33:22]: As we would be accepted to all neighborhood uses. And that's the same for this commercial that's here. We're very much acceptable to having it as neighborhood uses. You know, no, you know, pawn shops, no any type of outside, you know, car wash, anything like the the items that we've [0:33:22, 0:33:42]: Talked about with the council members that we're not wanting to see there. Automotive repair shops, anything like that. For the residential, it's a three-part mix now. As I mentioned, it's all single-family detached on the top. When you go to the inside, these are the attached homes, but we made them wider. There was a comment made about [0:33:42, 0:34:02]: Wanting to see some wider townhomes. So these townhomes are actually 26 feet wide, which is some of the wider ones that you'll see. And then up here on the frontage, these are rear loaded, meaning if you're driving down 42, you'll see the front of the house. So they're accessed from behind for the garage. But these are detached, what are called bungalows. [0:34:02, 0:34:16]: Then these are single family detached. We have a large amenity area with a cabana, a pool. We're looking at potentially pickleball courts and a dog park as part of our amenity area and package. And one thing to note is we had talked about [0:34:16, 0:34:20]: something similar that we mentioned to the to the councilman and uh [0:34:21, 0:34:41]: Uh Meritage Homes, who's with me tonight, Daniel, uh they built uh Willow Crest, which is over near Floyd Road in Mapleton. And all these product types, the wider townhomes, the bungalows that front on Floyd and Glore, uh, you can actually see those out there at that location. That's been one of the most successful projects in uh the city of Mableton, County. [0:34:41, 0:34:43]: Cobb County uh in that area. [0:34:43, 0:35:03]: As you're looking forward on the site, these are kind of our statistics. Uh, we are originally, like I said, doubled the amount of homes. We cut that down. And so you now you have um 86 uh single family detached homes, and then you have 82 town homes. So you have more single family detached than you do town homes, and then we have uh most [0:35:03, 0:35:23]: Everything is office and commercial retail and restaurant. The square footage kind of gets pumped up because of the potential grocery. It may not end up being that large. Some of them are roughly around 20 to 25,000 square feet. And then the individual pads are five to ten, depending on the restaurant or the restaurant size or the individual. [0:35:23, 0:35:32]: Individual retail, but it has a maximum of 80,000 that could be there. And these are kind of the road alignments and how it loops through this area. [0:35:33, 0:35:46]: These are some pictures of the homes. You have the bungalows in the bottom. Um, here, this is a single family detached. These are town homes. Uh, these are ranch homes that you would have, single story as well as multi-story homes. [0:35:47, 0:36:07]: And these are the three items. I know we're on the annexation case that we were looking at. But as we went through the project and looking at some of the different needs, you know, what really caught us was in in terms of talking with um councilman and the mayor was the was this need for having something. [0:36:07, 0:36:27]: Set in the neighborhood and not only on the interstate that would actually have some retail restaurant and uh potential grocery needs for there, as well as a small place for a potential office at this location when you're looking at it from there. Uh, in terms of the homes, like I mentioned about the townhomes, wanting them to see wider, um, what that limit. [0:36:27, 0:36:45]: lended us to was that lended us to a range to where the townhomes can go up to twenty one over twenty one hundred square feet, the bungalows can go over twenty four hundred square feet and the detached, you know, or twenty twenty up to twenty three, then with basements, they would go up and over three thousand square feet. Um [0:36:45, 0:37:00]: As I mentioned about our amenities, uh the other thing that we are required and we show on our plans is on Highway 42 as well as campground, we're both building the 10 foot multi-use trail that's part of y'all's future trails project to tie in with that. [0:37:00, 0:37:11]: And uh with that, I can take any questions you guys may have and let me know. Thank you. Thank you. Reserve any time. Thank you. I'll now open the uh floor for questions from the board. [0:37:16, 0:37:32]: Right here, none. I will now open the public hearing for the annexation case AX dash twenty twenty four dash O two. Is there anyone who would like to speak in favor or ask any questions or make any comments of this annexation case? [0:37:35, 0:37:37]: Speak in favor. [0:37:38, 0:37:39]: Uh what what is it? [0:37:41, 0:37:48]: Do I from the board, you mean No no no. This is for um the community, so public comments and then we'll come back to the board. [0:37:50, 0:37:52]: All right. Are there anyone yes. [0:37:54, 0:37:55]: Yes. [0:37:56, 0:38:04]: Anyone uh against the annexation case, please come forward at this time. State your name and address. [0:38:11, 0:38:31]: My name is Kyrisha Johnson. I live at 149 Crown Walk in McDonough, Georgia. Um, I'm not necessarily against it. I'm just trying to get some clarity of what's going on with my neighborhood, which is a little north of uh the proposed project. It's right there in the gray. Um we're talking [0:38:31, 0:38:51]: Talking like north east. I'm in one of those uh eight houses on my map that was mailed to me. Um and it's showing that I'm in a yellow block. It's not X off, so I'm not understanding if one [0:38:51, 0:39:01]: of these eight in along Crown Walk are like proposed to be annexed into Stockbridge. I'm just trying to get clarity on that. [0:39:04, 0:39:19]: I'll I'll open it up to staff to answer the question or uh and I could just let you know specifically the parts in the gray are not the actual properties we're talking about. It's solely those two annexation parcels right here. So the ones that are highlighted specifically are the parcels we're discussing. [0:39:20, 0:39:22]: Correct. I gotcha. Um [0:39:24, 0:39:29]: I guess uh I maybe I would need to speak with them, I'm not sure. [0:39:29, 0:39:32]: Your property won't be affected. Probably won't. [0:39:33, 0:39:35]: You don't think we would be annexed into the city of Stockbridge? [0:39:39, 0:39:40]: Okay. [0:39:41, 0:39:42]: Well that's it for me. [0:39:42, 0:39:43]: Thank you. [0:39:45, 0:39:47]: Will the next person come up and please state your name and address? [0:39:52, 0:40:12]: Uh good evening. My name is Jocelyn Williams, one ninety Bank Strive, Stockbridge, Georgia, three hundred two eight one. Uh my opposition is um I haven't had a chance to I think it's gonna be now 168 homes that will be um in consideration on the property. I think they said eighty-six single and eighty-two [0:40:12, 0:40:32]: I didn't get a chance to read like when I normally come, I can see it's gonna be 86 single, just like they said, so I can read. That's why I know it's 168. Um in addition to um the office and retail space. Uh wanted more information so I could. [0:40:32, 0:40:52]: See to take to the neighbors traffic study, the drainage sewage study, specific requirements and ordinance for this property, and um the annexation as it relates to the comprehensive plan. So I wanted more information either for it to be postponed or so I can get more information. Once again, I'm just [0:40:52, 0:41:05]: just writing down what they said twenty one hundred square feet, twenty four hundred square feet, and I think it was three thousand. So I didn't know what the number of homes were until I came this evening. And thank you. [0:41:06, 0:41:09]: Thank you. The next person please state your name and address. [0:41:13, 0:41:23]: My name hello, my name is Courtney Hunter. I live at 164 Titan Road, Stockbridge, Georgia. And I'm coming to just either ask for this to be postponed or actually no. [0:41:24, 0:41:34]: And I'm basing this on information that I have in regards to the builder itself. They have pending like lawsuits dating back to twenty twenty four. [0:41:34, 0:41:36]: Um from shoddy work. [0:41:37, 0:41:41]: from doing you know um actually not using good [0:41:41, 0:41:44]: I think building properties actually building [0:41:45, 0:41:52]: for their homes, they're hiring unqualified contractors, workers, um, they're doing low quality workmanship. [0:41:52, 0:42:00]: Um, they do have homeowners now that are complaining and actually filing lawsuits. Um, in terms of the building of their homes has not been good. [0:42:01, 0:42:02]: They have cracks in their floors. [0:42:03, 0:42:08]: Um cracks going up the walls, actually toilet stools that have not been in pro properly installed. [0:42:08, 0:42:10]: Which is causing water leaks. [0:42:10, 0:42:11]: in their homes. [0:42:11, 0:42:13]: So I'm asking that the builder at least [0:42:14, 0:42:15]: provide information [0:42:16, 0:42:31]: to you all to say, okay, how are we handling these lawsuits and have they actually been resolved? Because that's important, because if you want quality homes in Stockbridge, you do not want to deal with a builder that is not actually coming up to par in terms of building quality homes. Thank you. [0:42:32, 0:42:32]: Thank you. [0:42:33, 0:42:35]: Does anyone else wish to speak about this case? [0:42:42, 0:42:47]: I was emailed a comment from a homeowner if I could read it t into the record. [0:42:51, 0:43:07]: It states, hello, Council members. I hope all is well. My intent to writing this letter is to ask that you postpone the proposal for Meritage Homes to build residential and commercial development on this property. Meritage Homes has a Yelp. [0:43:08, 0:43:22]: Review of one point three. These are real reviews from existing and previous customers. The main complaints stem from the quality of materials used with when Merit Titch Homes bills. [0:43:22, 0:43:32]: and the longevity of those bills. For example, the single family homes on campground built by Meritage Homes have a host of issues. [0:43:32, 0:43:52]: Even when applying for their application to build in Stockbridge, Meritage Homes filed for a variance with the City of Stockbridge to use cheaper materials to build the homes. It is in Stockbridge ordinance that homes should be of three to four sided brick. This variance filed by Meritage Homes was approved by City Council members. [0:43:52, 0:43:53]: Yeah. [0:43:53, 0:43:55]: Mr. Elton Alexander. [0:43:55, 0:43:57]: Along the cheap building materials. [0:43:58, 0:44:18]: Meritage Homes is also responsible for hiring an irresponsible and faulty company to run the HOA of the single family homes. It has been five years since the new single-family homes have been built, and the HOA is already operating in the red because of the management company Meritage. [0:44:18, 0:44:32]: homes put into place. And the list goes on. Highway 42 is expected to be widened in 2030. That's five years from now. That's five years you can ensure traffic flow won't [0:44:33, 0:44:36]: be impacted or disrupted near the space. [0:44:36, 0:44:38]: If this proposal can be postponed. [0:44:39, 0:44:41]: Until the completion of the widening [0:44:41, 0:44:43]: Of Highway Forty Two. [0:44:43, 0:45:03]: Highway 155 is already congested with cars and now an overwhelming amount of 18 wheelers and dump trucks. That's five years for at least one new school to be erected. That's five years to give Costco, Sprouts, Kroger, and all the new and upcoming projects on campus. [0:45:03, 0:45:20]: Ground Road and Jodico Road, the ability to sustain and stay for future growth. With the cost of goods and the cost of living continue to increase, and the new elected president trying to change the demographics of America. [0:45:20, 0:45:26]: which reflects in our communities as well, maybe the growth you expect won't happen at that rate. [0:45:27, 0:45:47]: You intend it to be. Five years give you more time to give a true assessment to which the development is even needed. That's five years for Meritage Homes to improve on their customer relationships and quality of builds. This five-year time span gives the community time to accept and possibly. [0:45:47, 0:46:05]: Understand why this new residential and commercial property may be needed. But as of today, this new construction is not a need of Stockbridge and will only take away more green space, add more frustration to the daily commute that is already evident from Henry County taxpayers. Thank you. [0:46:08, 0:46:12]: Thank you. Ms. Jackson, could you state for the record the name and address of that citizen? [0:46:13, 0:46:18]: An address was not provided. Um the applicant's name is Mr. Turner. [0:46:21, 0:46:29]: Thank you, Ms. Jackson. Those are civil issues and it's outside the scope of the planning commission. So please don't take it into consideration. [0:46:30, 0:46:36]: Thank you. I will now close the public hearing for the annexation case. [0:46:38, 0:46:41]: If there are not any comments from the board, I'll now open it up for a motion. [0:46:43, 0:46:49]: Mr. Chair, we do have conditions placed on the rezoning component of this petition. [0:46:49, 0:46:51]: For the annexation case? [0:46:51, 0:46:52]: Uh just for the rezoning. [0:47:00, 0:47:05]: So uh Miss Jackson, I'm gonna do the vote for the annexation and then we'll go to the comprehensive and then rezoning. [0:47:09, 0:47:12]: So there is there a motion from the board for the annexation case. [0:47:15, 0:47:16]: I might have present it. [0:47:17, 0:47:23]: I'd like to present a motion the uh for the annexation for C P twenty twenty four. [0:47:25, 0:47:25]: Was that an approval? [0:47:26, 0:47:27]: Yes. [0:47:28, 0:47:29]: There's a motion, is there a second? [0:47:31, 0:47:33]: Mr. Chairman, I'll second. [0:47:33, 0:47:42]: Mr. Timidal has motioned. Mr. Minn has second. All those in favor, please signify by the sound of aye. [0:47:42, 0:47:53]: Any opposed? So moved. We'll now move on to the comprehensive plan amendment case. So I'll now pass it back over to you, Ms. Axe. [0:47:57, 0:48:02]: There were no conditions for the comprehensive plan, staff recommends approval. [0:48:04, 0:48:06]: Are there any questions from the board for staff? [0:48:08, 0:48:09]: Uh actually. [0:48:10, 0:48:16]: I actually have a a question uh with regard to the annexation annexation case. [0:48:17, 0:48:30]: I don't know if you can answer this, but is there a reason why sh um certain materials or cheaper materials are being used? [0:48:30, 0:48:31]: To build [0:48:32, 0:48:34]: uh these homes and in [0:48:34, 0:48:44]: That item has already been voted on. It's this can't be discussed further. You would have to ask that question in another case. Okay. So I'll I'll defer you the time. Okay, thanks. During this case. All right. [0:48:46, 0:48:47]: Any other questions for the from the board? [0:48:52, 0:48:57]: All right, would the applicant like to come up for a few minutes moments in regards to the comprehensive case? [0:48:59, 0:49:11]: Sure, as far as the as the comprehensive plan, I the the order always throws you know, I'm trying to make sure I take them in order. So for the comprehensive plan, and then I'll I'll make sure to answer yours. Um [0:49:11, 0:49:24]: It's basically a downzoning. Henry County high density uh coming into the city because of the density. It would be medium density as a mixed use. Um based on some of the comments, I know I didn't rebuttal, but the [0:49:24, 0:49:44]: You know, the idea of that was mentioned about materials, I don't know. Uh Daniel is with Meritage. He could answer probably a little bit more. Uh we're definitely not trying to use low quality materials. Um Willowcrest, the project we're talking about, the one that is uh just finished building out in Mapleton was the one the, you know, as we talked to the councilman and the mayor. [0:49:44, 0:50:04]: that that's what we are striving for. That would be the materials. You can see it, you can you know be able to feel it, see it. Uh that's out there. Like I said, it's on Floyd Road at Galore Road. Um the same product types, everything is out there. Um and uh but we're definitely using high quality materials. You know usually they go off energy star. Probably some of the cheapest materials [0:50:04, 0:50:24]: Material out there would be a vinyl siding. We don't do any vinyl siding. Anything that we do is gonna be uh hardy plank material. It's like uh cementous concrete-based material as well as brick. Um I can't speak to exactly what the complaints were at the previous neighborhood. I'm just uh not prepared with any information on on any kind of [0:50:24, 0:50:33]: Rebuttal there, but um, we definitely would be striving for that type of uh cementous material and uh brick facades as well. [0:50:34, 0:50:54]: Yeah, and and we're fine with um stipulating that we're all we use in all of those superior materials, all the cementitious materials, hardy board, bat, uh concrete, uh shake, uh brick, stone uh materials for the houses. And uh I think we've talked to staff a couple of times that we're fine with that as well as on the commercial. [0:50:54, 0:50:57]: commercial building, making sure they're all uh materials as well. [0:50:59, 0:51:02]: Okay. Are there any questions to the applicant from the board? [0:51:05, 0:51:06]: Thank you so much. [0:51:06, 0:51:14]: Thank you. No, thank you. By the way, we don't have a a variance that allows uh a waiver on uh building materials. That doesn't exist. [0:51:15, 0:51:16]: Thank you. [0:51:19, 0:51:27]: I will now open it up for public hearing for this case. Is there anyone that would like to speak in favor of the comprehensive plan amendment case? [0:51:29, 0:51:32]: Once again, anyone in favor of the comprehensive plan amendment case? [0:51:34, 0:51:38]: Is there anyone against the comprehensive Plan Amendment case and would like to speak? [0:51:44, 0:51:46]: Please come up and say your name and address for us, please. [0:51:50, 0:52:10]: Uh good evening, Jocelyn Williams, one ninety Banks Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia, three oh two eight one. The reason I'm in uh opposition of the comprehensive plan, trying to see and make sure that it's Highway 42 and campground that it's in accordance with what is on the comprehensive plan so I can have more time to evaluate it. Thank you. [0:52:11, 0:52:16]: Yes, ma'am, thank you. Is there anyone else against the comprehensive plan case? [0:52:18, 0:52:25]: All right, if none, I'll now close the public hearing case. The board will now make a vote on the comprehensive plan amendment case. [0:52:27, 0:52:30]: Will I take all right, I'll now accept the motion. [0:52:34, 0:52:45]: Mr. Chairman. Mr. May. I make the motion to approve comprehensive plan amendment case CP twenty twenty-four-zero nine. There's a motion to approve. Is there a second? And Harrow, I'll second it. [0:52:46, 0:52:52]: Mr. Thibodeau second. All those in favor, please use the sound of aye. Aye. All those opposed? [0:52:54, 0:52:56]: All right, so moved, unanimous. [0:52:57, 0:53:06]: The next item on tonight's agenda is the rezoning case, RZ 2024-10. Uh we will now allow for staff to present. [0:53:11, 0:53:12]: Thank you, Mr. Chair. [0:53:15, 0:53:24]: The applicant um definitely gave the board sufficient information as far as staff. [0:53:25, 0:53:44]: The proposed rezoning involves properties of seventeen seventy eight and eighteen seventy two Highway forty two North, also known as parcels eight zero eight nine dash zero one zero zero one zero zero three and also zero eight nine zero one zero zero one zero zero one. [0:53:47, 0:54:07]: The development consists of 168 units. Seventy-one of those units are single family, residential, detached homes, fifteen bungalows, and eighty-two townhomes with a density of four point two units per acre. The proposed square footage of the bungalows is [0:54:07, 0:54:10]: is 3500 square feet. [0:54:10, 0:54:12]: With a frontage of ten feet. [0:54:13, 0:54:23]: A front yard setback of ten feet, rear yard setback of five feet, and a side yard setback of three feet. The single family detached homes will be [0:54:23, 0:54:26]: At at least five thousand square feet. [0:54:26, 0:54:46]: With a front yard setback of 20 feet, rear yard 20 feet, and side yard 7.5 feet. The amenities the applicant has provided you with the amenities that will be located at this location. Per our records, there will be a pool and a cabana, a mail key. [0:54:46, 0:54:51]: kiosk and nine point seven five acres of open space. [0:54:52, 0:55:12]: The commercial section will have 70,950 square feet of space consisting of six buildings, which may consist of a grocery retail store as well as restaurants. The parking proposed is 336 parking spaces. Staff has recommended. [0:55:12, 0:55:16]: Amend approval with conditions and I'll read those into the record. [0:55:18, 0:55:27]: The first condition is the subject property shall be developed similar to the site plan that was submitted by the applicant on January twenty-first. [0:55:28, 0:55:30]: The bungalow lots [0:55:30, 0:55:35]: Located on lots one through fifteen of the site plan shall be three sided brick. [0:55:37, 0:55:39]: A landscaping plan shall be submitted. [0:55:41, 0:55:48]: Number four, a ten foot external sidewalk and eight foot internal sidewalk shall be installed. [0:55:49, 0:55:55]: Number five, the building facing the street on campground road shall be three sided brick. [0:55:57, 0:56:09]: Number six, the buildings labeled dining patio on the site plan must adhere to the parking standards found in section four point eight of the City of Stockbridge Unified Development Code. [0:56:10, 0:56:22]: Number seven, no more than one hair salon, barber, shop, nail salon shall be in the commercial section. No event centers nor nor gas stations shall be allowed. [0:56:23, 0:56:32]: Number eight, the applicant must combine the two parcels located at seventeen seventy eight and eighteen seventy two Highway 42 North. [0:56:33, 0:56:50]: And I believe we're saying that should be combined prior to receiving the LDP, which is the land disturbance permit. In addition, no permit shall be issued by the city of Stockbridge until the developer provides a copy of the recorded plats. And that concludes the conditions for this properties. [0:56:50, 0:56:53]: Thank you, Ms. Jackson. Are there any questions from the board for staff? [0:56:55, 0:56:58]: Yeah, I have a question. Uh is it gonna be H O E? [0:57:00, 0:57:05]: That is a great question. I believe the applicant will be better suited for that question. [0:57:07, 0:57:07]: Please. [0:57:10, 0:57:30]: Chairman, I'm sorry about that. I meant to ask you permission to speak. Kenneth Wood, 350 Research Court, Beach Street Corners, Georgia. Um so now that we're on to the I I don't know if there's a way to get over to our presentation. Um now that we're on to the to the rezoning part of it. I'll try to answer some of what we've heard as well. [0:57:30, 0:57:50]: uh just to kind of bring it all back in. As I mentioned, this has the conditions of the zoning like we talked about for all the materials, uh what it can and can't be for the retail, for the residential, uh, for the neighborhood use, for the commercial that is to be built, um, and how it's to be built, the external sidewalks that we talked about are all in the staff conditions uh that we looked at. [0:57:50, 0:58:10]: For this. And then what we'll also do is we'll give cards tonight so we can also meet with some of the people that had spoken in the community to be able to bring them up to speed on any questions they may have. And then the one question about the annexation that the land, the project that is just to the existing single family would [0:58:10, 0:58:20]: should not be part of the annexation uh going through as well. Um do I have the ability to get over to do y'all have the site plan within here? Gordon, could you help him get to his presentation? [0:58:22, 0:58:42]: I think uh I can use this question. Yes. Uh Gordon, while he does that. I could use this. This is fine. Like this one. Yeah, that's a cycle. Can y'all see this up here? Okay. This is perfect. This kind of shows you the different components. Uh the bungalows are detached, uh as we mentioned. The single family, uh you you have all the amenities that were [0:58:42, 0:59:02]: Running through there, the sidewalks, all the turn lanes, everything that we're required to do for all the access points coming into the development, coming out of the development that you see there. And really, you know, the big catalyst to this was really creating those neighborhood uses, uh, get pulling away from the interstate and the big box commercial and trying. [0:59:02, 0:59:22]: Trying to have more neighborhood scale retail uses. So, you know, if there's a place to eat, it can be more neighborhood, it can be more local to be able to be found there. Um, that was kind of what we were going for. That's why we wanted to mix the re the really the foot traffic of the residential uh with the foot traffic of the retail here. And that's why we have in the back, you'll kind of see in this. [0:59:22, 0:59:23]: Yeah. [0:59:23, 0:59:43]: You can kind of see this is kind of more of an open space. So you can basically come across and be able to enter into the open space and get to the to the retail, the restaurants, or any of the grocery uses that would that would come in this place. We do have sufficient stormwater management, all the different parts of the site. We have stormwater ponds for all the different phases. [0:59:43, 1:00:03]: That would take care of uh storm water management. Uh we have received a sewer letter from Henry County for water and sewer uh for the area. Um we also have, I believe, water. We're able to tap in. I believe the city of Stockbridge, you get I believe we can get to water. It's just Henry County, I believe, is the sewer uh for this one. But adequate pressures uh [1:00:03, 1:00:23]: for the development for what we're able to do. Um and then you also saw where we also have the basically the larger sidewalk on this access road coming through. So that would put larger sidewalks on campground on forty two as well as traversing through the development, making sure that as in the future as everything get built out and, you know, we're really talking about as we [1:00:23, 1:00:43]: There was a comment about some of the um the five year plan for some of the build outs. I mean, this plan right here is kind of a three to seven year in terms of how long it takes. It just takes so long now. You know, once you start into permitting, actually get something vertical and in the ground. Uh, you know, we were talking about several years from now, uh just going but the first home. [1:00:43, 1:01:03]: And then that three to seven years for a build-out time frame, uh, getting up to speed uh to line up with those different uses. And with that, I can take any questions. And like I said, we really, really just tried to make a really good mixed use development and meeting all all of what we read in the maps about what is desired for the area, uh being able to see it. [1:01:03, 1:01:15]: it making sure like I said it's neighborhood uses and the scale for that. Thank you. Commissioner Tudot, please go with your questions. Thank you. Uh will this property be fee simple? I mean in terms of purchase uh [1:01:16, 1:01:31]: Also, you're not gonna turn this into rental property, are you? No, and I think we're okay with with any rental restrictions.'Cause that's something I didn't hear from staff because uh that's one of the issues that I know people are always concerned about. [1:01:31, 1:01:33]: that developers coming in and [1:01:34, 1:01:54]: Developed property and the next thing you know, it's all rental. And uh we don't want to get caught with that situation. If you're not gonna do that, yeah. Well what we've been seeing, especially with Meritage, there are they are a fee simple. This will be a full HOA. Uh all the covenants, all the documents that you know usually has a rental restriction, something like 10%. And that's just in case someone relocates and has to. [1:01:54, 1:02:03]: To rent their home for a period of time, but it is it, you know, the intent is not to be a rental property. And if it's in the zoning conditions, the HOA can't change that. [1:02:04, 1:02:06]: Thank you. Any other questions from the board? [1:02:08, 1:02:09]: Thank you so much. Thank you. [1:02:10, 1:02:10]: Right. [1:02:12, 1:02:21]: I will now open the public hearing for this case. Is there anyone who would like to speak in favor of the rezoning case? RZ 2024-10. [1:02:25, 1:02:28]: Once again, is there anyone in favor? In favor of this case. [1:02:31, 1:02:33]: Please come forward, say your name and address. [1:02:35, 1:02:43]: Carisha Johnson, 149, Crown Walk, McDonough, Georgia. Um, my question is, uh I heard him say that [1:02:44, 1:02:51]: I guess the timeline of things. Um, you were saying that it would be seven years or three to seven year plan. [1:02:53, 1:03:02]: To build out everything. Okay. So the houses, how how far are we looking out for that? Yeah, how like how soon would the houses be built? I mean [1:03:03, 1:03:10]: Ma'am, please suppose don't address the commission, though you can't speak from the floor. [1:03:10, 1:03:11]: Oh. [1:03:12, 1:03:22]: Oh, ask them. Oh, y you guys know the answers. Okay. My question is, how far out are we expecting um single the the homes to go up? [1:03:22, 1:03:30]: You can so you ask all your questions and then we'll have the applicant or whoever can answer come up. Yeah. Okay, I'm sorry. Didn't I on the protocol? That was it. [1:03:30, 1:03:34]: Thank you. Anyone else in favor? Please say your name and address. [1:03:37, 1:03:38]: Oh [1:03:38, 1:03:46]: R Rodney McKenzie. Um my address is 843-Orwheel Drive and Stockbridge. Um, I am in favor. [1:03:46, 1:04:01]: Uh I do have a question in terms of the applicant as far as they are a residential builder. And my question would be, have they taken on a uh project of this size when you [1:04:02, 1:04:02]: Incorporate [1:04:03, 1:04:05]: Commercial and residential. [1:04:06, 1:04:11]: So that is that would be a question that I would like to know if they've had previous projects that they have been successful. [1:04:11, 1:04:14]: В конструктing residencial. [1:04:15, 1:04:15]: And commercial. [1:04:16, 1:04:18]: Um my nets um [1:04:19, 1:04:35]: in favor is not necessarily a question, but it's more so of um maybe a suggestion or what have you. Um I do know that Meritage Homes has just completed, I guess, the Eagle Hill Town homes and the single family homes that sit right next to those. [1:04:36, 1:04:37]: And so um [1:04:38, 1:04:46]: With the city of Stockbridge, all I'm asking is that um they give residents some type of um [1:04:48, 1:05:00]: uh variety, right? A lot of these builders come in and they tend to, you know, they'll build one community and then they'll move on to another community and it's all still the same style homes. [1:05:00, 1:05:13]: So maybe look at maybe them offering or showing what style uh or not necessarily style, right? But actual floor plans. So we can have something, some type of variety within the city. [1:05:13, 1:05:27]: You know, you just built one community and I'm all for all of this, but then you're gonna build another one. Let's just make sure let's make sure that it's not the same homes that we're seeing all around our city. All right. Thank you. [1:05:27, 1:05:27]: Thank you. [1:05:31, 1:05:39]: Before I bring the applicant back up to possibly answer any questions, is there anyone against the current uh rezoning case? [1:05:44, 1:05:46]: Please come forward to say your name and address for us. [1:05:51, 1:06:11]: Uh good evening. Um Jocelyn Williams, one ninety Banks Drive, Stockbridge, Georgia, three oh two eight one. The reason I'm for uh opposition of the rezoning is due to the infrastructure that's down on forty forty two and camp uh grounds, um and taking a three to seven year um timeline. [1:06:11, 1:06:17]: will um make it very challenging for that area. Thank you so much for your kindness. [1:06:17, 1:06:17]: Thank you. [1:06:22, 1:06:32]: Courtney Hunter, 164, Titan Road, Stockbridge, Georgia. I just have a question. Wanted to know would the City of Stockbridge legal team be researching any the complaints? [1:06:32, 1:06:37]: that is against maritage homes before we make a final decision as to whether or not to proceed [1:06:38, 1:06:39]: with the building of the homes. [1:06:40, 1:06:49]: So I believe that is beyond the power of this planning commission. Uh but what I'll do is I'll defer that question over to staff. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. [1:06:49, 1:06:53]: Uh would the applicant like to come up and answer those two questions from the community? [1:06:57, 1:07:17]: Sure. I am not aware. I will, you know, in between the two hearings, I will try to find out. I'm not aware of any lawsuits that are that are out there. I know Daniel mentioned he wasn't either either. You know, the three to seven kind of the infrastructure the build out is try to give an idea. You know, if you s if you start construction, you know, you're two years roughly, you know, get [1:07:17, 1:07:37]: Getting a permit, actually turning dirt, the ugly part of it, and then building vertical. You know, you're over two years before you just see a first house uh come in the ground. And then you have years of of of build out for that. And that's what it's for. Um as far as as far as the residential mixed use, uh Willowcrest, like [1:07:37, 1:07:57]: We mentioned, you know, has the mixture of uses within it. Um, Meritage is a national builder, so they are used to partnering with landowners. Rowan, the landowners want to partner, uh, finding the tenants that we're talking about. Uh, at one point, Publix was looking at this site and they ended up kind of going a little further. So the idea was to kind of bring that more narrative. [1:07:57, 1:08:12]: neighborhood size. And so that's really gonna be the focus right now as a partnership to focus on those those um more neighborhood style tenants because there's a need. There's the traffic that is there and there's the need uh for that as well as the housing coming in within walking distance. [1:08:12, 1:08:32]: Um, it was a great question about the variety of home. And really, when we talked to uh council member Alexander, that was one of the big reasons that the plan has evolved as staff has seen it from what it was to what it is now. Um originally when we first submitted, we had uh four feet, you know, narrower townhomes. Uh you actually can see it down on one of the the sites. [1:08:32, 1:08:52]: That was that was discussed. The materials that we're talking about, the three-sided, uh, then also the bungalows was something new. Uh, those don't exist in Henry County in terms of that style of a home, of a detached home that exists in Cobb. And we wanted to bring it over here after talking to him, as well as the townhomes being more to [1:08:52, 1:09:12]: Two-story but wider. Then that way when you're looking at it, it feels more like a single family detached home and it lives more like a single family detached home because of that extra width on it. And then the single family detach having uh a minimum width to it, but then on the north side, we have more room that we can spread out, push the setbacks back. Uh one of the other conditions. [1:09:12, 1:09:32]: That we've been talking about with the councilman was actually having so that we're 30 feet from any any curb with the townhome. So you have way sufficient parking for the cars and everything else. And we have that on our on our plan as well. And so we definitely feel like what we've done with the changes that you see before you today, that we do have. [1:09:32, 1:09:36]: a different variety that you will actually see. But it's a it's a great question. [1:09:36, 1:09:56]: Okay, I'm gonna take a quick uh point of personal privilege to ask a few questions. Sure. Um did you tell us the exact amount of parking lot uh spaces per unit? Uh so everything everything has a a two-car garage, has uh the ability to have two parked, but then we also have additional guest parking through the through the [1:09:56, 1:10:08]: the community. So there's four per every house, uh, but then there's also guests like head end parking, the amenity has parking, and then there's parking on the on the roads, little like uh parallels and everything. [1:10:08, 1:10:28]: Perfect. And I know one of my uh board members, fellow boardman, has also talked about the discussion of an HOA. Is that something that you all plan to bring into this development? Absolutely. Um we'll be fine with committing to the rental restriction and the HOA. Okay, I would I would ask staff to add that to um the conditions that we have set for them. [1:10:28, 1:10:43]: Uh and of course it'll come back to a vote upon this committee, but I also want to know in regards to the HOA, uh, how fast or how immediate would they have the opportunity and the authority to basically manage that property and then what would be the percentage of the capacity at which they can manage? [1:10:44, 1:11:04]: Yeah, I know it goes uh there's a new law as related to when HOAs turn over and I wanna say it's in the ninety ninety percentile range. Uh it's it's very high, yeah. So we would a lot of our communities we don't usually turn over till the last house is sold. So somewhere when you're very close to selling out the last house is when you turn over to the [1:11:04, 1:11:24]: Um home owners. When I was doing different zonings and different places, it was around like 60, 70 percent. And the the c the complaints was [1:11:24, 1:11:34]: when the HA was taken over, there were still construction zones and and they were trying to regulate that and it became a became an issue. So th I think that's all changed to a higher percentage now. [1:11:34, 1:11:36]: Okay, perfect. Thank you so much. Thank you. [1:11:36, 1:11:40]: Right. I will now close the public hearing case. [1:11:40, 1:11:45]: I will now accept a motion from the board. [1:11:54, 1:12:01]: I'd like to present a motion for the rezoning case number RZ twenty twenty-four-ten. [1:12:02, 1:12:06]: Thank you. Before I I take a second, Ms. Jackson, you wanted to add something? [1:12:12, 1:12:22]: Mr. Chair, I just want to be clear on the rental cap that you would like for us to add to the condition. That would be condition number nine. [1:12:22, 1:12:27]: Do you have a specific number in mind or could we recommend? [1:12:28, 1:12:35]: A percentage? I would allow the staff to give the best recommendation for it. Code is ten percent. I'm fine with that. [1:12:38, 1:12:40]: Excuse me, Mr. Chair. Yes. [1:12:42, 1:13:02]: I'm not sure if I'm in the ballpark but I I just wanted to I I I'm just um I I just want to ask how much uh or is this affordable housing or the range of, you know, w when these properties start versus you know, how much how much I mean [1:13:02, 1:13:05]: The the minimum to the maximum. [1:13:05, 1:13:10]: I'll allow the applicant briefly. Yeah, you're allowed to briefly come. Mm-hmm. [1:13:14, 1:13:34]: So our internal projections are based on the market as it is today. It's anyone's guess what the market will be in two and a half years when we're selling the houses, but we would sell at whatever the market allows us to sell. Right now, that projection for us is in the mid-threes to high fours. [1:13:34, 1:13:38]: Thank you so much. [1:13:40, 1:13:47]: I have a motion to accept uh with staff conditions from Mr. Thibodeau. Is there a second? [1:13:48, 1:13:51]: Mr. Chairman. Yes. I'll sock on that motion, please. [1:13:52, 1:14:09]: Commissioner Doumas has seconded the motion. All those in favor, please signify by the sound aye. Aye. Any opposed? So moved. The rezoning case has passed. The next item on tonight's agenda is project updates. Ryan is Could you repeat the um motions? [1:14:09, 1:14:18]: Yes, Mr. Thibodeau made the motion to approve with staff conditions. Uh Commissioner Dumas seconded that motion. It was voted unanimous. [1:14:20, 1:14:40]: Are there any project updates from staff? No, we don't have any. Any staff comments? Uh yes, we'll like to welcome Miss Ms. Walker Boyd and thank you for your s your volunteering your service. Uh we'll be scheduling a training for you in the upcoming weeks. So we'll begin the email. We'll be with the ARC. [1:14:39, 1:14:41]: So we'll send you an email shortly. [1:14:42, 1:15:02]: Thank you. Thank you. I'll now pass it over to Commissioner Min for board comments. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'd like to thank uh Commissioner Dumas for the last year's leadership. Uh very eloquent, calm demeanor, certainly uh an example of uh well-run meetings. So thank you again. [1:15:02, 1:15:03]: Yeah, sir. [1:15:03, 1:15:13]: Thank you, sir. Any other comments from the board? Uh don't forget, uh very professional, very causal, just a great guy. [1:15:15, 1:15:15]: Thank you. [1:15:17, 1:15:37]: And I I'm thankful that I am able to serve with you guys and for the community. Uh District Five i I do live in District Five, so I know uh very much a lot about District Five. So uh I appreciate uh everybody speaking tonight. [1:15:38, 1:15:55]: Let me say I look forward to serving um as this year's chair. I it was a shock for the motion, but I know I have some big shoes to fill with Commissioner Dumas, so I'm glad he's still on the uh board with us to serve. Um and so let's get ready for an awesome year. The last item on tonight's agenda is adjournment. Do I have a motion from a board member? [1:15:56, 1:15:57]: Тому [1:15:57, 1:16:02]: All right, so boom by mister Doomis. Is there a second? I'll second it, Harold. [1:16:02, 1:16:11]: Got two seconds, so I'll take the second from uh Commissioner Thibodeau. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. All right. This meeting is adjourned at 747 p.m.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2025-01-28 source: 2025-01-28_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:01]: Oh yeah. [0:00:02, 0:00:04]: Yeah, yeah, too. Two different time. [0:00:05, 0:00:08]: Oh, scan. [0:00:08, 0:00:11]: Then it's way there. [0:00:12, 0:00:13]: And you're so [0:00:20, 0:00:21]: Where you were. [0:00:30, 0:00:36]: That's right. [0:00:36, 0:00:40]: They may do it. They have to set their thing. [0:00:46, 0:00:47]: Yeah, yeah, okay. [0:00:58, 0:01:10]: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I have uh 604 and like to start our city council work session uh call it to order. And on that note, uh please stand for invocation. [0:01:13, 0:01:33]: And actually I'll give that tonight. Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again to do the city's business. Allow us to have good logical conversations as we continue to move our city forward. Be us always, Lord, to make the best decisions we can for our constituency and our citizens in in our community. Be us always, Lord, in your name. Amen. Okay, do the Pledge Allegiance? Yeah. [0:01:33, 0:01:43]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:01:44, 0:01:46]: Madam Clerk, Rockaw, please. [0:01:48, 0:01:49]: Good evening. [0:01:49, 0:01:58]: Evening. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Present. Council Member Alexander. Present. Councilmember Barber. Present. Council Member Berry. [0:02:00, 0:02:05]: Let the record reflect Council Member Berry is not in attendance. Councilmember Thomas. [0:02:05, 0:02:11]: Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk, appreciate that. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:02:11, 0:02:16]: So move. Is there a second? A second. Okay from Mr. Alezander and Ms. Kenneth. All in favor, please indicate. [0:02:16, 0:02:18]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [0:02:18, 0:02:22]: And uh Madam Clerk, do we have any uh public comments? [0:02:23, 0:02:43]: Okay, we're going to review the minutes. Council please review review the minutes for the January 8th, 2025 council retreat that we had in reference to House Bill 581. And of course, our uh council meeting uh minutes from January 13th, 2025. And of course we will look at those uh we will actually approve those minutes at our next meeting. [0:02:43, 0:03:03]: And so on that note any changes or additions, additions, or whatever the case may be, please let the clerk know that. And then what's up next was uh presentation actually from Path Foundation presentation, strategic plan for implementation and master plan for the trails. Mr. Cantor, if I got that right, and uh Dash. [0:03:03, 0:03:05]: Aaron, please come forward and give the presentation. [0:03:05, 0:03:06]: Mm. [0:03:13, 0:03:33]: Thank you very much, uh Mr. Mayor. Thank you very much, Council. I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you this evening. My name is Eric Gantther. I'm with the Path Foundation. We were hired by the City of Stockbridge. Is your mic on, sir? Um I believe so. Is it on? Am I am I loud enough? Do I need to [0:03:33, 0:03:53]: Okay, very good. So we were hired by the City of Stockbridge to conduct a strategic master plan for trails that is about uh that continues some of the work that you've done in the past. And we wanted to talk to you, give a presentation tonight about highlight of our recommendations and to get some feedback. [0:03:53, 0:03:57]: from you all on what we're seeing and the opportunities that we see. [0:03:58, 0:04:07]: So we'll go over a a draft report overview, some implementation strategies, talk about a model project, and then next steps. [0:04:09, 0:04:29]: Draft report overview. So this uh we'll have a table of contents, five chapters covering how we laid this out, and we'll go over some of the steps here. The master planning goals, the Stockbridge strategic implementation, and master plan for trails will provide guidance to implement trails that connect. [0:04:29, 0:04:37]: All residents in Stockbridge to parks, schools, greenways, commercial areas, and regional destinations. [0:04:38, 0:04:54]: So we've gone through a process. We kicked off last February. We've met with a number of city leaders. We've been guided by city manager Frederick Gardner and um Mister Aaron from Public Works. Been very supportive. [0:04:55, 0:05:00]: So when we do this kind of planning endeavor, what we ask. [0:05:00, 0:05:12]: out front is well where do you want to go on trails? That's always the first question. We want trails to be popular day one. We want them to get places people want to go so they will use them. [0:05:13, 0:05:33]: And when we look in in the city of Stockbridge, the circles there are what people told us those are the places that they wanted to go. That is the public, that is the stakeholders that we spoke to. And then we have the kind of b the larger flow that we see in your city on how they would connect. [0:05:33, 0:05:36]: Connect the places that people want to go. [0:05:37, 0:05:38]: So [0:05:39, 0:05:45]: Kinda to cut to the chase with this, we envision the Stockbridge trail network of twenty four miles of trails. [0:05:47, 0:05:52]: So these are uh these are all ages, all abilities trails? [0:05:53, 0:06:00]: And they connect to the key parts of your city, the uh starting with a downtown and blossoming out from there. [0:06:01, 0:06:10]: They include trails along your creeks, along your streets, and that connect your schools and your parks, as you can see on this map. [0:06:11, 0:06:31]: So when you have 24 miles of trails, that's a lot of trails in a city the size of Stockbridge. And when we lay this out for cities, we do this in a phased process so that you can take smaller bites of that and uh with the idea of accomplishing it in a [0:06:31, 0:06:32]: Reasonable time frame. [0:06:33, 0:06:53]: So, what you're looking at here, the program segments are in blue. That's where you already have work underway. That includes uh Rock Quarry Road, the rebuild on that. You've got Tie Street that is being rebuilt as well. There is the DRI, the large project there on. [0:06:53, 0:07:04]: on Flippin' Road, the Flippin' Road DRI, so that's the blue piece there on Reeves Creek that extends your really lovely Reeves Creek Greenway. [0:07:06, 0:07:26]: Other pieces in um so that that would connect. You you've got a nice foundation for a network there. Then there's the proposed phase one that is five miles of trails. We s we focus on the downtown, this the core, the historic core of the city, but then also are [0:07:26, 0:07:45]: Looking at out Walt Stevens Road. Then phase two after that, 10 miles, looking at extending that Reeves Creek Trail up towards the Walmart, and then going in the other direction, following Little Cotton Indian Creek out to the east side of the city. [0:07:47, 0:08:07]: So gives you a sense there. Uh these are the trail types. So when we are doing trails planning, we look at this these types of trails that we think are appropriate for Stockbridge. Those are greenways. So your Reeves Creek Trail is an example of a greenway, really beautiful side paths. [0:08:07, 0:08:22]: Those are trails that are adjacent to streets. Here's an example of one in Atlanta where you can see it has a stripe in it. That's a multi-use, that's a shared use side path. And so that is um [0:08:23, 0:08:43]: That is the kind of legal description of what a side path is. And then there are calm streets. Calm streets are streets where typically in a in a residential area where we have families with children and people who want to be on the street. We we can uh have those for short distance. [0:08:43, 0:08:50]: To make important connections in the network. We'll talk about what those look like here. [0:08:50, 0:08:54]: Ненвел з тварифом trails, what we're seeing. [0:08:56, 0:09:16]: Um, is the opportunity to really connect. And we know that uh from the from the surveys that we've taken, over 60% of p of stock bridgians would use a bike facility if it's separated from vehicles. So that's really the key here. We're wanting to have a network. [0:09:15, 0:09:35]: that is separated from vehicles on all ages, all abilities network that is safe and inviting. This is a really important part of economic development for uh cities today, especially in the Atlanta region. You're competing with other cities that have these amenities that people have stated that they want. [0:09:35, 0:09:36]: [577.1, 596.2]: So when we look at the at these uh trail types in relation to those trails, so you can see here the green are greenways, the mustard, those are the side paths along your bigger streets. And then we've got a few examples of Calm Street that we would add into the mix here as well. [0:10:00, 0:10:20]: Now the uh here are the names. We think it's important to name trails so that they have their own identity. And that builds that builds a brand with the people and helps identify a network so that you can have signage that would indicate, for example, the Brush Creek Greenway, the Brush Creek Green. [0:10:20, 0:10:40]: Greenway, we think, is going to be really the star or one of the stars of the trail network here in Stockbridge. Then you've got the amphitheater trail, the Stock Bridge. You know, we can talk about the name of that, but I thought that would be kind of a fun way to reference it. That would be a bridge here over the railroad tracks. [0:10:40, 0:11:00]: Uh the Rock Conyers Trail, so you've got Rock Quarry Road and Old Conyers Road. We might combine those to call that the Rock Conyers Trail. Heritage Trail, of course, that's Martin Luther King Sr. Heritage there. Um Reeves Greenway, which you already have, the Red Oak Trail, note that. [0:11:00, 0:11:08]: That one actually is uh the idea there is to go to the Red Oak Elementary School along Walt Stevens Road and Flippin' Road. [0:11:10, 0:11:30]: So the Brush Creek Greenway, we really feel like this is going to be a huge opportunity for the city. And why? Because it connects two of your parks. Right now you've got two parks right next to each other, but there's a railroad in between them. And that's Cochrane Park and Clark Community. [0:11:30, 0:11:35]: Community park. So the idea here is to pop a tunnel. [0:11:35, 0:11:55]: Thro underneath that railroad berm, underneath where that railroad is, that's Norfolk Southern. We're in discussions with Norfolk Southern on several places in the state of Georgia, so we're cautiously optimistic that we can get permission to do this. Look at what that will do. It'll connect two parks with a really [0:11:55, 0:12:04]: Compelling underpass. And it's not too long, so it isn't going to be creepy. So you've got an opportunity for art and light in there. [0:12:04, 0:12:07]: And then those two parts become one. [0:12:07, 0:12:16]: Right now, to get around, you have to it's a long drive to get around to get between the two parks, and people really don't see them as a connection. [0:12:16, 0:12:27]: So we really feel this is a uh the foundation of a really good trail network and a fantastic place um to begin in the near term. [0:12:29, 0:12:35]: Along this is the Red Oak Trail, the proposed side path on Walt Stevens Road, the bridge. [0:12:36, 0:12:56]: So you're familiar with this. This is on the west side of town. That's a fairly busy road. It is, there's a lot of width on the right-of-way there. That was designed, that was purchased a right-of-way or created right-of-way for a much bigger road, with the idea there would be an intersection. [0:12:56, 0:13:09]: or interchange with the interstate, that did not happen. So we have some opportunity as a result of that. And we know that that was in your T S Plus. So we want to talk about that as well. [0:13:11, 0:13:24]: Another example, here's the heritage trail. So in this image that's Memorial Park in the background. And that is Second Street, let me think. No, no, Jennings. [0:13:24, 0:13:35]: Jenningsway, thank you. Yeah, Jennings Way. So Jennings Way has on either side, you can see on the left of that image, there i there's a cemetery there. [0:13:35, 0:13:55]: And to the right there are a couple of homes, but we see an opportunity to close this street at least beyond those residential driveways and create a greenway very affordably with land that you control that's already paved. It would be a great [0:13:55, 0:13:57]: addition to the network for not a lot of money. [0:14:00, 0:14:20]: Here's the stock bridge, as we've discussed. This is a parallel structure to North Henry Boulevard. And that is it is a really useful connection and an opportunity to brand the center of the city. So we need to, you know, if we fast forward what is stock bridge? [0:14:20, 0:14:40]: Going to look like 30 years from now. And I think it's going to be very different. I think you're going to have a dense center. I think your zoning is set up for that. Stockbridge is really ideally located in lots of ways for economic development, residential, business opportunities in the center of a city that. [0:14:40, 0:14:51]: is thriving with pedestrian and bicycle activity. That is a potential real future vision that I want us to hold on to when we're thinking about these trails. [0:14:53, 0:15:13]: So when we went uh we went out, we've been out to the public. There's been a bunch of work, and I need to acknowledge that the city has done a bunch of work in the past on trails. You had a a uh a trail plan from twenty seventeen, you've had some downtown sidewalk plans. Um there have been other work in this area, and we were hired. [0:15:13, 0:15:33]: To kind of tie some of that together and be strategic about how we can get some of the stuff done. So, as a result of that, the city didn't need or want to spend a lot of money on a bunch more public outreach, but we did feel it was necessary to do some of that, really just to float some ideas around, to focus. [0:15:33, 0:15:53]: Folks, give them an opportunity to give us some feedback. So we had a public meeting and a survey. We didn't get a huge outpouring of response there, but it was even small numbers of people will give you a sense. If people are going to be really mad about something, typically they're going to show up and scream, as you're, you know, I'm sure. [0:15:53, 0:16:09]: Well aware. And we did certainly have not had that. The the feedback that we've had has been very positive with the stakeholders that we've spoken with, the public that we've spoken with. So I want to assure you that that that is an important piece for us. [0:16:10, 0:16:30]: Um here's a summary of the community feedback. You can see it's mostly positive here. Um some you know concerns about a long the the one up here in the middle that in red long overdue progress in the area to enhance pedestrian safety and walkability. So people want it, and I think they're a little impatient. [0:16:30, 0:16:32]: patient. That was what I was getting out of that. [0:16:33, 0:16:53]: All right, implementation strategies. That's really what we're here to talk about. So there's that trail network, and we've broken this out into uh program segments and phase one segments. So what we could do, and we want to start there. Uh the the idea is to start phase one with number one, rush brush uh crack. [0:16:53, 0:17:00]: Creek Greenway Segment One and then slowly build those up from there. And [0:17:00, 0:17:15]: And then here's a phase two. So this is you can see here, we're building the core. We're building off of what you've already started and trying to leverage as much of that as possible so that pieces connect. [0:17:15, 0:17:24]: That is a really important thing. We want to build stuff that people are going to use and they're going to use it if it goes somewhere. So that is an important piece of this. [0:17:25, 0:17:30]: Then phase two, once we've done that the the core of the network. [0:17:30, 0:17:47]: and we're comfortable with that and people have started using it, then what you're gonna hear, you're gonna hear from them. They're gonna say, hey, when are you gonna start building those other pieces? We're excited about this stuff. So that's when we've got the phase two plan kicks in. That's gonna be a few years from now. [0:17:48, 0:17:53]: So we've done cost estimating. Path foundation, all we do is build trails. [0:17:54, 0:18:14]: We're a nonprofit organization. We've built 340 miles of trails, mostly in Georgia, mostly in the Atlanta area. We've been in business as a nonprofit for 34 years. So when we estimate costs, we are very we stand behind those. The numbers that are included here [0:18:14, 0:18:16]: Here are from twenty twenty four. [0:18:16, 0:18:22]: They include construction, uh, standards, signage, landscaping, trail amenities. [0:18:22, 0:18:25]: And a contingency that's important. [0:18:25, 0:18:27]: They do not include. [0:18:27, 0:18:29]: Easement and property acquisition. [0:18:30, 0:18:46]: That's a big one, public art, maintenance, lighting, security cameras, and construction management. But I wanna say that if Path is hired to do the work, we provide construction management included in the package, and that's a six percent off the top savings. [0:18:47, 0:18:51]: Now phase one cost summary, these are some big numbers. [0:18:52, 0:19:12]: But this is a long-term project. And so if we think about Stockbridge and roll forward, you know, what can we do in 10 years? What can we do in 12 years? And we feel like this is conceivably possible in 10 to 12 years. Um, if as your city grows, you're up to 35,000 residents now. [0:19:12, 0:19:32]: Probably going to be adding more in the future. That's a broadening tax base. There are splost opportunities. Uh, there are state funding opportunities and grants that we can apply for, and developers. So Councilmember Alexander certainly knows this. I'm sure some of the others of you do too. That when you [0:19:32, 0:19:43]: you get a good development in there and you can s and they wanna build, if there is a plan that shows a trail alignment, then you can negotiate with them to build that trail for you. [0:19:44, 0:19:53]: That is part of the deal in building the development. And that's part of the value of adding this into the city planning documents. [0:19:54, 0:19:56]: All right. Model project. [0:19:57, 0:20:02]: What makes a successful model project? Basically, it goes where people want it to go. [0:20:02, 0:20:18]: Right. You want it to be a hit day one. You want it to be something when the ribbon is cut, people are using it, and they're every time they see you, they stop you and they say, Councilmember Gantt, thank you so very much for supporting this trail because we use it all the time. That's the kind of success we want to see. [0:20:20, 0:20:21]: Um [0:20:22, 0:20:42]: Okay, and then is the trail safe and inviting? So it's gotta be nice. It can't just be a trail, you know, uh that's necessarily like cheek to jowl on the side of a road where you've got truck traffic. That isn't nice. We want that to be something where where people are feel welcome, where they s they [0:20:42, 0:20:46]: want to go, they want to take their friends and their family members to go see it. [0:20:48, 0:21:08]: And then is it relatively easy to implement? So we can cook up lots of ideas, and there's certainly been a lot of planning efforts in this area, some of which didn't really consider the ease of implementation. So one of the benefits of the Path Foundation's experience is we know where you're going to run into trouble, and we seek to avoid that trouble. [0:21:08, 0:21:16]: from the very beginning. So this trail plan is feasible, it's doable. We're not cut we're not um [0:21:16, 0:21:26]: uh dealing with a lot of private property owners, we've stayed away almost entirely from single family homes because we know that can be challenging politically. [0:21:28, 0:21:37]: All right, so the recommended model project Brush Creek Greenway Segment One. We wanna get started, we wanna get started soon. [0:21:37, 0:21:39]: And this is the opportunity. [0:21:39, 0:21:59]: Um it's a short piece, but I think it's a compelling piece. It's going to connect it it'll begin the connection going west from Clark Community Park. That's on uh largely on publicly owned land. It is entirely along a sewer easement. There is a development there. [0:21:59, 0:22:06]: that we'll talk about in a minute. But you can see here relatively short quarter mile. [0:22:07, 0:22:19]: Construction cost uh one point nine million. That includes a pretty hefty contingency. We think we're gonna be able to beat those numbers significantly for you. The design cost, 110. [0:22:20, 0:22:26]: And that again that excludes the ca uh construction management cost. So if you were to go out. [0:22:26, 0:22:46]: To other entities, to private entities, you're going to have construction management on top of that. Construction management is something that Path brings for free on these projects. Not for free, of course, but that's why we're in business. So here's a little zoom in so you can see the parcels that we're talking about. [0:22:46, 0:23:00]: talking about the city of Stockbridge owns two of them. That's along Brush Creek. And then QMS Enterprises, which is in the process of building a townhome community, is on the end of Club Place there. [0:23:01, 0:23:07]: And so we've seen that design, and we know that this trail alignment will not get in their way. [0:23:07, 0:23:27]: um of that design. And it is a fantastic amenity that at this point especially would be useful for them and make their townhomes more marketable, frankly, because you've got a lovely greenway connecting to a park, an amenity that people around the Atlanta region have wanted [0:23:27, 0:23:28]: Wanted. [0:23:29, 0:23:49]: So some images here. This is looking east at Clark Community Park. There's Brush Creek. And so imagine a 12-foot trail alignment there going into the park. So that's looking east from Davis Road. And then here we are on the other side, looking west on Davis Road. And that's that sewer alignment that we have. [0:23:49, 0:24:04]: we've talked about. So you've got the creek and the sewer alignment, and that is an opportunity. We like working on sewer lines. We're good at working on sewer lines. We understand how to do that. Sewer lines can't have trees growing on them. [0:24:05, 0:24:25]: And they can't have buildings on top of them. So they're really perfect candidates for trails. And this, we think, is a good place for y'all to begin this next round of trail building because the city owns most of the land. It's a relatively small project that can be achievable, and people want to see. [0:24:25, 0:24:29]: results and this I think will be it'll have enough bang for the book. [0:24:30, 0:24:31]: Um [0:24:31, 0:24:34]: It will be compelling. So [0:24:35, 0:24:55]: If you know if you all approve this as part of the uh plan that that you have the opportunity to vote on possibly on February 10th, um then we would if if you all approve, we would get to work right away. We'd start survey. That's the first thing you have to do is survey. We'd work with a landowner to make sure. [0:24:55, 0:25:01]: QMS and work with them on getting an easement on the edge of that project. [0:25:01, 0:25:20]: Then do 30%, 60% design of um leading into the summer, uh do permitting coordination and uh getting permits by the fall, get all the easements lined up, and then the goal would be substantial completion February of 27. So in two years. [0:25:21, 0:25:23]: Soup to nuts, you'd have a trail. [0:25:24, 0:25:44]: And we can show the residents of Stockbridge that we can do something. We can begin that Brush Creek Greenway. While we're doing that, we can be having our discussions with Norfolk Southern to see if we can get a permit to do that tunnel underneath to connect the parks. So you can start to send then see. [0:25:44, 0:25:46]: see how we can build the network out. [0:25:46, 0:26:06]: All right, next steps. Um we we've given you a copy of the report. Uh our apologies. I believe it was delayed a bit by weather last week, uh, but I'm hoping that everyone has a copy of that. We would like your feedback on that. We don't have a lot of time. Uh we're we're you know we're hooked. [0:26:06, 0:26:16]: hoping to get some feedback from you soon that we can then incorporate into that and then uh have the opportunity uh to vote on that on February 10th. [0:26:16, 0:26:24]: So if that happens and you approve and and we're able to move forward, then in March we're going to begin the work. [0:26:25, 0:26:34]: So it's it is a it's a quick build, but we know that you've done this planning. We know people want this stuff, so we are hopeful uh for your vote. [0:26:35, 0:26:53]: Okay, that's um I'm Eric Gantther. Nico Shen is our designer. It's uh it's Chinese New Year this evening, is the is the New Year's Eve in on the lunar calendar and and she's of uh uh Chinese descent, so she's with her family tonight, uh, but sends her regards. [0:26:54, 0:27:14]: No problem. Appreciate the briefing. Um, I would tell you that um there's several things I like about the plan, several. And the connectivity, I would say, between uh Gardner Park and Car Park, which is our biggest part, to have that connectivity underneath the rail line is wonderful. I'd like to see that, obviously see that happen. May take some time, but like to see it happen on working with the railroad. [0:27:14, 0:27:34]: can be sometimes a little difficult, but uh we've made some headway with them over the over the past year here out of quiet zone, so it can be done. Um the uh the east-west uh connection downtown uh east west connection through the downtown area right uh next to Martin Luther King Senior Heritage Bridge there is [0:27:34, 0:27:41]: Fantastic for pedestrian bridge there to connect both sides of the downtown area to one another. It's a fantastic idea as well. [0:27:42, 0:27:55]: Uh there's plenty of plenty of great things to say about the trail plan and uh look forward to uh further information of course from the council's uh comments and I know I would say the council has plenty of comments in this place, so who will have to go first? [0:27:56, 0:27:57]: Well, Miss Cannon, go ahead, please. [0:27:58, 0:28:02]: All right, thank you, Mayor. Um thank you for this presentation. It was excellent. [0:28:02, 0:28:18]: I know Councilman Alexander has been an advocate and really pushing this and have been going to the meetings and has really spearheaded getting this started for us. Um so I I thank you too, Councilman Alexander, for that. This is a job well done. Um [0:28:19, 0:28:33]: And I really appreciate it. I I'm excited about seeing where we're getting the ball moving. We're starting to get some things accomplished with the trail. Reeves Creek Trail is used. People want mobility. They want to exercise. They want to be out. [0:28:33, 0:28:37]: And іт there's a a dire need for it. [0:28:37, 0:28:40]: Um I'm also excited to see in my district that [0:28:41, 0:29:01]: you guys are taking into consideration to begin on Watts Stevens. There's that Lake Spivey area where the park has this beautiful trail that people go to both in Henry and Clayton County specifically. A lot of people in Henry County go over to that park because of the trails and because they're able to work out, they're able to ride. [0:29:01, 0:29:09]: You you see bike, um, people running their bikes, and then it ends, right? And so to be able to connect to that. [0:29:09, 0:29:12]: Um, and go all the way to Reeves Creek. [0:29:13, 0:29:16]: And just tie in from that from that west side. [0:29:16, 0:29:17]: Would be [0:29:18, 0:29:22]: Absolutely, you know, amazing. It would be awesome. It it helps. [0:29:22, 0:29:42]: With the larger picture of us actually tying into another county. Yes. Within a quick fix, you know, not necessarily a quick fix of it, but it shows the potential of what we can do all the way to Panola Mountain if we wish to do so at some point and extend. So it's a great opportunity and a great starting point. And so I thank you [0:29:42, 0:29:43]: You guys for considering that. [0:29:44, 0:29:50]: And I know that my constituents in my district would look forward to that. That's wonderful. [0:29:50, 0:30:04]: So I'm all for it. Whatever we need to do to get the ball rolling. We had a class um this weekend we went to all of us went to Cities United, which is a Georgia Municipal Association. And SWANE actually [0:30:05, 0:30:10]: did one of the underground tunnels. I remember years ago when Lee Stewart was trying to get [0:30:10, 0:30:30]: Um former mayor one of our former mayors was trying to get an underground tunnel tunnel path, you know. Um and that's always been a vision to connect those parks. To be able to connect that or and and know that a lot of people, oh, it's not gonna be possible, it's costly. But to know that the railroad, they've worked with us on a quiet zone, you know. [0:30:30, 0:30:46]: You know, that we are willing to partner and do what we can for the betterment of our community and we have those partners out there. I mean, I I think it can get done. So I just wanna say thank you guys. Thank you so much for all the work you've done thus far and continue to do. [0:30:47, 0:30:50]: That's great. Thank you very much. Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please. [0:30:50, 0:30:51]: Thank you. [0:30:53, 0:31:02]: Good evening. Good evening. I want to also echo what all of our council members are really saying. We are excited about uh this project. Um [0:31:02, 0:31:16]: I was in the class that Mrs. Gantt was referring to and we we talked about the trail. And one of the questions I asked cost then and cost today. [0:31:18, 0:31:21]: I'm curious as to what that would actually cost. [0:31:25, 0:31:40]: But what I like to do is drill down a little deeper into the um the coordinations. Um I read over this uh last night. [0:31:41, 0:31:42]: El [0:31:43, 0:31:45]: А I see the connectivity. [0:31:48, 0:31:54]: That is a T-splosh project that deals with uh curbing gutters and sidewalks. [0:31:55, 0:31:58]: And um they are working on the [0:31:58, 0:32:14]: TI Street project right now. It also will deal with the uh Emil King and I know we have a a property owner here that lives uh in the uh trail district. Um and so [0:32:15, 0:32:20]: And I know uh I see Mr. Aaron back there and I think he may can respond to some of this. [0:32:21, 0:32:24]: Is there a coordination? [0:32:26, 0:32:26]: With the [0:32:27, 0:32:28]: Trail plan. [0:32:29, 0:32:32]: And with the curb and gutter project. [0:32:32, 0:32:33]: Also [0:32:34, 0:32:36]: We have talked about [0:32:37, 0:32:39]: The widening of [0:32:39, 0:32:48]: flipping road. I know road project it take a zillion years, so I know we won't hold up waiting on that to happen. But I just wanna make sure that [0:32:49, 0:32:53]: Any trail plan on flipping. [0:32:53, 0:32:56]: Is with the understanding that eventually [0:32:56, 0:32:58]: That widening is going to happen. [0:32:59, 0:33:18]: And so I just want to make sure if there's some coordination. Now within the uh ML King community, um there are the curb and gutter projects and some sidewalks. And as you know, when you do uh curb, so you eventually gonna wipe. I just wanna make sure that [0:33:18, 0:33:27]: These two projects are being coordinated. And I don't know, Mr. Aaron, if you want to respond to any of this, but I do know on Tight Street. [0:33:27, 0:33:30]: Uh sidewalks are going in, they're planning now. [0:33:31, 0:33:31]: Um [0:33:32, 0:33:49]: Where you have Memorial Park, that is a master plan that we are considering now. You mentioned Jennings Way. There is some conversation about Jennings Way being a one way. Uh we're not really, really sure. [0:33:50, 0:34:02]: And but we're talking about an another access in from M L King or Rock Quarry. So you got to have these kind of thing because if you close Jen and Way and just make that a one way. [0:34:03, 0:34:06]: And it's a very frequent part. [0:34:07, 0:34:16]: And so you had to consider if you close Jen and Way, you're bringing all of that traffic through the interior of that neighborhood. [0:34:16, 0:34:36]: And it is well, well visited. So I'm throwing all of this out hoping that all of these issues are in consideration of what we do as far as the the curb and gutter projects and the path. For sure, we're all in favor and we understand the connect. [0:34:36, 0:34:56]: And how we bring all of these neighborhoods and these communities together, as well as health and wellness. Folks are walking the dog, they pushing the baby strollers, they jogging, they walking, they riding their bike. So we get that, and that is really great for all of this. But I just want to make sure. [0:34:56, 0:34:58]: [2098.6, 2100.3]: The Path Foundation [0:35:00, 0:35:01]: Is [0:35:02, 0:35:22]: informed of what the Curb and the Gother project and the sidewalk project, especially on Tie Street, on ML King, um Harris's Trail, so we don't step over each other. As long as we are coordinating and we know that this project is come, one may come before the other, but we will allow [0:35:22, 0:35:25]: The space, the footage to accommodate the [0:35:25, 0:35:29]: That future when it does happen, as I mentioned, flipping. [0:35:30, 0:35:31]: You know, who knows? [0:35:31, 0:35:37]: But that is the plan to widen that. So I just want to make sure that whatever we do on flipping. [0:35:38, 0:35:40]: It is it with the understanding of [0:35:40, 0:36:00]: what may happen in the future. But but specifically though, I want to sort of drill back into uh Jennings way and and we just don't know just yet, but um we've had a couple of town halls, but we still never did decide just yet on what to do with Jennings Way. As you mentioned, [0:36:00, 0:36:03]: There are cemeteries on both sides. [0:36:04, 0:36:05]: So [0:36:05, 0:36:25]: I I I just don't know. Um before I ask my other question, uh Mr. Aaron, did you want to sort of respond to uh Memorial Park and Jenny's way? Yes, Councilman Thomas. There has been coordination between the Path Foundation, Falcon Design, and TSW so that there's not a duplication or redundancy of efforts from three different entities. [0:36:25, 0:36:35]: entities. So everybody is working in coordination with each other. We had that joint meeting and one of the decisions the council made was to close the transfer station which would [0:36:36, 0:36:47]: provide a new entrance into Memorial Park. And so that will allow us to do the things that's proposed for Jennings Way because it'll take that traffic that comes to [0:36:47, 0:37:07]: Uh Memorial Park off of Jennings Way and bring'em into the new entrance off of Martin Luther King Senior where the current transfer station now sits. But yes, sir, there has been cooperation among everybody so that we all are in unison and not everybody is working on their separate plans which conflict with each other. So yes, there is coordination. [0:37:07, 0:37:16]: And and that and that's what's important for me. Um, I do understand, you know, the the out of picture as you just presented. [0:37:16, 0:37:36]: But I do understand that once you get into the minutiae of it and and the actual planning, I know sometimes that we can sort of bump into each other. But I but I'm glad to hear that, Mr. Aaron, that that is a coordination. And so I'm satisfied with that. Um I live in the Memorial Park community and I know. [0:37:36, 0:37:41]: I know I see it every day, especially during the summer months. Uh [0:37:41, 0:37:49]: the the the packedness or the the jamming of the traffic trying to get in and out of my murder and right now most folks [0:37:50, 0:38:08]: don't really know how to get there. And so they'll come through the neighborhood and they're looking. But I think with the with the future plan and as Mr. Aaron started mentioned with the transfer station being gone. So it's just good to know that we are working on that. And I I'm excited to see how all of this is gonna work out at the end. [0:38:08, 0:38:28]: And I think uh Mrs. Ganttz ought to mention about our citizens. I know they are excited about this, and I know this council is excited. So um I reserve the time. I have a couple other questions, but I'm gonna allow some of my other councilmates to ask a couple of questions. Um but I am excited about this and I wanna thank you for that information. Um my only [0:38:28, 0:38:48]: concerned at this point was about Memorial Park and Jennings way uh being able to connect Reed's Creek Trail, especially coming off of Flipping, coming off of Tyre, and then into uh the Memorial Park area. And I just was a little concerned about that. But I think uh Mr. You saw explained that and that that coordination is definitely [0:38:48, 0:38:51]: Yeah, uh everybody's meeting and it's being talked about. [0:38:51, 0:38:59]: Yeah, also be reminded that the city did also purchase that additional lot next to the transfer station, which will also help with [0:38:59, 0:39:10]: parking for Memorial Park as well. And just wanna everybody know that Path Foundation their specialty is in is trails. So anything that's trail related, we have [0:39:10, 0:39:23]: turned it over to the Path Foundation. Falcon is mainly working on infrastructure such as widening the roads and curving gutters. So the trail part is remaining with PATS so that we ensure those projects move quickly. [0:39:24, 0:39:33]: Thank thank you, Mayor. Okay, no problem. Thank you, sir. Yeah, Ms. Kent, you can't have a coup one more question and Mr. Aaron, maybe you can help me with this too. So and [0:39:34, 0:39:54]: T Sploss has 3.3 million allocated to the Walt Stevens Trail Area. But I see there there are two numbers. There's one part of it's listed as part two, like two segments, it's broken into two segments. The first segment is right there in like around the Marnark village area. The second one actually is like near. [0:39:54, 0:39:57]: listed as number eight project that is tied [0:39:57, 0:39:59]: over to the Lake Spivey area. [0:40:00, 0:40:01]: Twofold, I have spoken to Count. [0:40:02, 0:40:05]: Uh Commissioner uh Robinson, this is her district. [0:40:06, 0:40:08]: And um this is one of those projects where [0:40:09, 0:40:14]: We had talked about maybe trying to implement some of the funding to help. [0:40:15, 0:40:19]: you know, make sure that the connectivity from Lake Spybee from the Clayton County. [0:40:19, 0:40:26]: crosses on over. Is that 3.3 for both segments or is that just for segment one? [0:40:26, 0:40:30]: And is it possible that we can work on that segment together? [0:40:31, 0:40:36]: or or what's the challenge there? Because I what I like is the idea of [0:40:36, 0:40:38]: The connectivity from one [0:40:39, 0:40:42]: Big part, the huge part we're talking about, that water part. [0:40:42, 0:40:47]: Um in Lake Spivey with all the trails they have going and people utilising that area. [0:40:48, 0:40:53]: Where it's starting to connect and we're starting you'll see that connectivity to re towards Reefs Creek. [0:40:54, 0:40:59]: So w is it possible to do that in one as one segment or [0:40:59, 0:41:06]: Is that the funds allocated the three point three for the first segment? How does that work? What what does that look like for us? [0:41:08, 0:41:28]: So the yeah, what you're referencing we're calling the Red Oak Trail. The Red Oak Trail would would use Flippin and Walt Stevens as a as a way to get to Red Oak Elementary School and that neighborhood that used to be called Red Oak Road before it was called Walt Stevens. So so Red Oak seemed like a nice name for it. [0:41:28, 0:41:48]: And the we broke it into two segments because we find that when you have a slightly smaller project, it's easier to build. And we really want to be considerate of what is needed from city staff to deliver a project successfully. [0:41:48, 0:42:08]: Successfully for you. So that way with two pieces. So now you you asked about the 3 million and the T splost. And the 3 million, as you can see, would be a little less than half of what is needed for Red Oak Trail Segment One. So we've got there's some strategies here that we could look at. [0:42:07, 0:42:27]: One of which would be to use that$3 million as a local match for both segments. So if we look at segment one and segment two, we're looking at about 13.5 million. If there's a 20% match, that$3 million could be used in that fashion to [0:42:27, 0:42:30]: Attract ARC funding. [0:42:31, 0:42:32]: As an option. [0:42:32, 0:42:51]: Right. So that would be or if if the city is able is able to come up with the uh another three million, then you could focus on one of those segments. Um, you know, it would be a little bit more on segment two is that piece that goes from the school west uh to um [0:42:52, 0:43:12]: Clayton County and then we need to coordinate with Clayton County on that, but we think that's a good opportunity for Henry and Clayton to work together. And you know, so but I think that's a that that will need to be determined as um Councilmember Thomas said, it's really about coordination. It's coordination within [0:43:12, 0:43:20]: In the city departments, and then between city and Henry County, and s and then Henry County and Clayton County. Okay. So there's a lot there. [0:43:21, 0:43:23]: Did you want to add anything? Ms. Alexander. [0:43:24, 0:43:30]: I was gonna let Miss Barber you have any comments? I was gonna speak last if you have you don't have any comments. [0:43:30, 0:43:50]: Okay, I appreciate that and um certainly I'm supportive of what Councilwoman Gantt has indicated. I think that would be truly a a game changer to be able to connect uh the Lake's Five Park with Reeves Creek and basically it would help those residents to be able to actually go. [0:43:50, 0:44:10]: I'm all the way into downtown into the amphitheater once this whole project is built out. So it would not only just connect it to Rees Creek, it would actually continue to Martin Luther King Heritage, to Rocori, uh, you know, on down to the amphitheater area. And the new STEM school, as you mentioned, cut. [0:44:10, 0:44:30]: Trying to get to points of con uh points of interest, such as Red Oak Elementary, you know, Stockbridge Elementary, all right there, Cotton Indian, Stockbridge Elementary, all of those points of interest it allows kids to be able to go to school and it allows everybody to get to the grocery store, the food depot, or to get to public [0:44:29, 0:44:49]: Publics. All of those uh indicators will will be very key to what we're doing. And as you said, we should be very anxious about being able to pursue funding because we just went to the GMA conference and the dollars are going to be on the table. Uh the governor in his speech said there's going to be 250 million a day. [0:44:49, 0:45:09]: additional dollars uh in addition to the transportation funding that is already available. So we're gonna be trying to chase those dollars and hopefully with your assistance we will be able to acquire it because this project should be at the top of the list, not just here, but in the region because it certainly would highlight uh a lot of things that we're trying to do. [0:45:09, 0:45:29]: Do here uh in the city of Stockbridge. So I honestly, and w as Councilman Thomas has indicated, uh in his area, it will give us access to the Greenfront Cafe, Tie Street, the Memorial Park, all of those and uh or interests. And I know you you're very sensitive as most people coming here. I appreciate [0:45:29, 0:45:35]: You bringing us a project that's one point nine million, right? Or one what was it, one point [0:45:35, 0:45:55]: It is. And I will say that is also in your splost. Right. And that's what I'm saying. It was a and let me say within your splost amount. We don't that's we could that's why we could begin the mid on February tenth if you say yes, we'll sign the documents by the end of the month. March first will off to the races because you've already got the funding. [0:45:55, 0:46:15]: That was part of the idea there. We looked at Red Oak Trail too, because we know as you both described, that is really an important trail for the community just as a connecting piece. But there's not enough spLOS money there. So we thought, where do you already have money that we can out the gate get going? Because you've told us. [0:46:15, 0:46:35]: Get going. We want to see some trails built. We want to see some action. And I so we hope that's well what I want to do is I I think you're being sensitive that we want to be good stewards of the city's money and what have you. But certainly a bigger number wouldn't happen to scare us because we're trying to look at uh making [0:46:35, 0:46:40]: making this happen uh in the short term. Mr. Malazzi, will you come up for us please? [0:46:42, 0:47:02]: I think one of the things that we did was uh Mr. Aaron, you can remain up front as well. We talked about the total dollars that were available in various accounts. And I think the number that you gave me, I think we had maybe twelve million in one of the accounts and then fifteen million um uh in the in in one of the TC. [0:47:02, 0:47:10]: Flice accounts, do you have those numbers available or would I don't I didn't bring them up here or would you do would you be able to [0:47:10, 0:47:30]: Find them for us. I think we had twelve million in one count and then fifteen million in one account. So we got a significant amount of money uh in the T Sploster count and in the Sploster count uh splot. And then we are about to start collecting money on splot six, which will start in April. So [0:47:30, 0:47:50]: So in addition to that nearly$30 million that we have uh in those two existing SPLOSS accounts, we're about to start collecting money on a third SPLOSS account, uh the SPLOSS 6 account. So there will be significant amounts of funding that will be available for us to be able to move forward. [0:47:50, 0:48:10]: At a if with funding not being of essence because of 1.9 is where we are now, and there's about 30 million in those two accounts for various projects, then there's 30 million just in the T that's 22 million, 21, 22 million in the T. [0:48:10, 0:48:28]: T-SPLOST just for trails. So it whatever whatever we need to do to be able to help finance some of those projects, that's twenty million dollars uh that will be collected. And I thunderstand we're collecting about what, five hundred thousand dollars a month or so. Uh could you speak on that? [0:48:29, 0:48:32]: So in the past all our [0:48:32, 0:48:52]: available funds were just put in the checking accounts. So there was nothing that we're getting actually we are paying fees. But now we moved them, we put them in the interest earning check um checking accounts. No when I say that I'm not talking about the bond. I'm talking about the actual T Splas collection, the one p [0:48:52, 0:49:04]: The one cent collection. So yeah, so they are all and them even we have money, we are still getting interest on that. Right. But the most important thing is that he has said that you whichever we get the money [0:49:04, 0:49:06]: We have to use it as a [0:49:06, 0:49:22]: local march so that we go for the grant. So we don't exhaust whatever we have for other projects. If we can get three million, three point something million and they help us to get the grants, that will be an excellent option to take. [0:49:23, 0:49:39]: Absolutely. And the funding was there as we're pursuing the Flip and Road project, right, Mr. Aaron? I mean I'm sorry, the um Tie Street project. Those projects are actually and the pr the projects in Councilman Thomas' district are actually moving forward as well, correct? [0:49:40, 0:50:00]: Yes, sir, they are. Okay. So I just don't want everybody to think that this is the only project that we're working on. There's additional projects that are being worked on as we move uh through this uh one thing I would like to just caution. Correct. A twenty per a twenty percent match couldn't [0:50:00, 0:50:08]: Unlock state and federal money. The challenge with state and federal money is that it's really designed to build a highway. [0:50:09, 0:50:19]: And it turns a one-year take it turns a two to three year trail project and turns it into a seven to ten year project. And I'm not exaggerating. [0:50:20, 0:50:40]: Because it triggers all kinds of environmental stuff and there's political and financial processes that the f state and federal funds come with so many strings. Now, all money is good money, but some money is better than others. And when you have local money, you don't have any of that. [0:50:39, 0:50:50]: So what we don't want to do is hamstring too much of your local money into these federal projects that could stretch out until we're all retired. [0:50:51, 0:50:51]: Mm-hmm. [0:50:51, 0:51:10]: Right. You know, so we if you want to see action, the best thing to do is use your local money to get something out there to show people that it can be done and then go back and ask for more. I mean, the nice thing about trail projects, I mean, I'm not saying thirty seven million dollars is nothing. Of course, that's a huge amount of money. [0:51:11, 0:51:15]: But in the realm of things of transportation infrastructure. [0:51:16, 0:51:36]: These are basically fat sidewalks. So if for for the amount of that, wow, the the the impact on that is huge. So to the extent that you can use local money, let's do that and get some stuff rolling. And then where we're stuck, because sometimes splost money is [0:51:35, 0:51:43]: Has to be in a certain project, although Walt Stevens wasn't defined. So we have some flexibility there. [0:51:43, 0:51:51]: Um, we just want to make sure we can get something done. We don't want to have more bureaucracy, more red tape, and more delay for you all. [0:51:51, 0:52:11]: Absolutely. So that's certainly I'm gonna I'm gonna close. Uh so I appreciate you clarifying that. And certainly again if the the the money sum total that you mentioned, certainly we want to be able to use that uh some of it to chase grants uh for the longer term or the the projects that are down the road and then uh for the project. [0:52:11, 0:52:24]: we're working on now, certainly be able to incorporate as many projects as possible. The best thing about that flip and road project is the developer is building it uh to extend it to Walt Stevens for us. [0:52:24, 0:52:40]: Yes, and that's in this this dashed gray line up there. That is we're putting that in the funded because they're already doing that. Because you had the foresight to ask that developer to do that. You ha had an understanding of the value. So that's fantastic. [0:52:40, 0:53:00]: Thank you. Thank you, sir. I would think the one point nine million you refer to as our money to get things stuffed on on Brush Creek would be helpful. And then of course in a couple uh maybe about six, eight weeks from now, we're gonna have a a a retreat anyway. And obviously we'll have further discussions during that particular retreat, I would imagine, on how on the way to go forward and make sure we're properly utilized. [0:53:00, 0:53:07]: Mr. Thomas, great, please. Thank you. [0:53:07, 0:53:10]: I just want to make sure, Miss Malazy, um [0:53:10, 0:53:28]: We we we talk about T Splosh, um, the Curb and Gutter project, those funds are earmarked and those are safe. I just don't want us to get into a com mingling of of the funds, so am am I correct? That is earmark and safe. [0:53:29, 0:53:43]: That's the reason why I was getting into taking a bit of it because if it's your already earmarked, you can't um re allocate it somewhere else unless the priorities have changed. [0:53:43, 0:53:54]: Well, I I I hope not because promises have been made. But let me also just throw this out. Now I've just uh read this today. Um the federal administration [0:53:55, 0:54:15]: That is a freeze on all loans and grants. So, and I don't know for how long. And another another reason to consider local funding, which you have for your Tie Street project. So when we've coordinated and we have, we've had several meetings with Falcon Engineering on Tie Street specifically and in [0:54:15, 0:54:35]: Your neighborhood specifically. I love that neighborhood. I want wonderful things for that neighborhood. You've got money to invest there. We want to make sure that when we're doing it, if the if the difference between a five-foot sidewalk and an eight or nine or ten-foot sidewalk turns a sidewalk that I can't ride a bicycle. [0:54:34, 0:54:37]: [3277.8, 3297.8]: Well let's go ahead and do it. There's the the cost differential once all the stuff is out there, that's a relatively small cost to like bump it out just a little bit more. Bang for the buck, good coordination, bring these pieces together and then use the money appropriately. Yeah, I I think we all advocate for the wider and [0:54:57, 0:55:15]: I I I hear Councilman Alexander already I hear him already saying, Oh yeah, we definitely walked the ten foot. So m Mr. Garner, do you have any insight and we don't know, you know, when Federal put a freeze on loans and grants, we don't really know, but do you have any insight? [0:55:15, 0:55:20]: My understanding of it, it's free started at five o'clock today. [0:55:21, 0:55:41]: And supposed to be re-looked at at February tenth was my understanding of it. Um but yeah. So how how how do you see that freeze affecting uh municipalities as far as some of the projects that we sort of projected in twenty [0:55:40, 0:55:41]: Yeah. [0:55:42, 0:55:52]: And now we're in twenty twenty five and we are now confronted with a whole different administration with freezes and those kind of thing. So what did your crystal ball tell you? [0:55:52, 0:56:02]: for most of our projects, sir, um little to none. Okay. Um you know, d the issue is if if the [0:56:02, 0:56:22]: One of the big grants that we get here, uh, obviously is the transportation monies, but remember we also have our local state match monies that we get. So that doesn't affect those. Um your C D B G, your home, those fundings potentially could get impacted if the county hasn't already drawn down those monies. [0:56:22, 0:56:26]: into their system to pay out for existing programs. [0:56:26, 0:56:27]: They'll cut it off at that point. [0:56:28, 0:56:35]: Right. Um, so the example I gave someone today was if you were a first-time home buyer who was receiving [0:56:35, 0:56:42]: first time assistance through C D B G or Home, but you hadn't drawn they hadn't drawn that money down through the system. [0:56:42, 0:56:49]: you're probably now not gonna get that. So whatever closing you might have had is probably impacted. So you buying your house would be impacted. [0:56:49, 0:57:02]: Right. Um, if you had a water sewer program through C D B G and you hadn't drawn that monies down yet, that monies is now frozen. So that project, if it was later to start within the next day or two or next week [0:57:03, 0:57:14]: or next month might be impacted for the start of that program, that project. So that's the problem that it has. It's a wide sweeping executive order that doesn't really take into account [0:57:15, 0:57:35]: what's out there, uh how it impacts, and who it impacts, because and and I surmise the GMA will probably see something from GMA, ACCG, um, as well as potentially the governor's office, right? You're gonna have some pushback from states, um, mayors, [0:57:35, 0:57:44]: to the both Republican and Democrat that utilize this month these monies to get things happening where you know, as I tell folks, you know, roads, water, sewer don't have a party. [0:57:45, 0:57:46]: They don't. [0:57:46, 0:57:50]: So when you stop funding there, it affects everyone. [0:57:50, 0:57:51]: Um [0:57:52, 0:57:58]: But I wanted to make sure that I I mentioned this too. Um I think Miss Gantt mentioned the tunnel that you see. [0:57:58, 0:57:59]: So [0:58:00, 0:58:02]: Apparently the city had monies to build a tunnel. [0:58:03, 0:58:04]: It was approved by [0:58:05, 0:58:06]: Um f um [0:58:07, 0:58:08]: Norfolk Southern. [0:58:08, 0:58:10]: back in oh eight, oh nine. [0:58:11, 0:58:13]: Um and there was monies. [0:58:13, 0:58:17]: set aside from David Scott office to make that tunnel happen. [0:58:19, 0:58:39]: And I'll leave it there. Um so Whose office? David Scott. Representative Scott. Okay. Um actually earmarked money for I think it was eight or nine hundred thousand that was put towards getting that tunnel built over fift fourteen years ago. And decided it's still a vision. Um [0:58:39, 0:58:48]: Um but I will tell you guys, so one of the things I'm doing to complete is your legislative pocket for NLC. [0:58:50, 0:58:51]: This is on there. [0:58:52, 0:59:04]: So please, please, when you get in that room, please ask for that to come back this way because as she as Eric said, this is a this is a catalytic project right there. [0:59:04, 0:59:06]: To link those two parks. [0:59:07, 0:59:10]: Right? So definitely if it was done before. [0:59:10, 0:59:26]: Obviously we don't have shouldn't have to go back through all the red tape with Norfolk Southern because they've already approved it once. Nothing's changed. The train track's still there. They didn't add another track that would change any of the factors. So you should be able to get the approval from them fairly easy to go back again. [0:59:28, 0:59:47]: Right. Um and and Representative Scott, but as you see as we just heard, we don't know what the landscape politically gonna look like. Um, but I will tell you that a that projects um like this one which is pedestrian, uh, is valued by both sides of the aisle. [0:59:48, 1:00:05]: Right. Yes. And so that's the benefit is pedestrian bridge, especially when you're linking neighborhoods, they're supported by both sides of the aisle. So hopefully, you know, by the time we get to NLC there'll be some more clarity as to what's going on with as it relates to this. Um [1:00:06, 1:00:26]: So we'll see. But as it relates to the impacts right now, um we shouldn't see any impact right now. I mean it's a it's only a few what a week or two week or two, I think, yeah. So if it gets extended beyond that, then I would start we need to start looking at wood all price. [1:00:26, 1:00:41]: projects we have out there. Um specifically the monies that we got from the for to do the infrastructure two years ago, a year ago, that we got from through Senate through Representative Scott's office and the bridge would probably get [1:00:42, 1:00:57]: Halt it. So when you get up there, remember you got a lobby, lobby, lobby. You I'll have your list of all the projects that I think we've already spoken about that we think are important to us will be in that pocket for you guys. So just remind them that, hey, you did it before, do it again. [1:00:58, 1:00:58]: And um [1:00:58, 1:01:11]: Mayor last question. Go ahead, Speaker. Um I was looking through the packet to see if there was another uh citizen engagement meeting. Can you uh confirm [1:01:11, 1:01:31]: There was not. There was one. And this and there was the decision I believe was made, and I don't want to speak too out of hand here, but there had been public engagement prior um with the previous planning efforts. And the I think the idea was they didn't want to go back again on the same topic. They did we went once and [1:01:31, 1:01:36]: You know, but that is that's that was the the rationale there. [1:01:37, 1:01:57]: Thank you. Sir. Go right, please. Look, let me say this and uh thank you again for the work that you've done. And Councilman Thomas, I think certainly you did some public engagement as well. You had multiple um town hall meetings with Falcon Design, which was uh awesome. I attended one of those myself, so thank you for having some additional. [1:01:57, 1:02:17]: additional meetings as far as that's concerned. I just want to point out to my councilmates, there is no district C, there's no district five on here, right? You notice that, right? So I wasn't being selfish with the participation. The focus was on downtown as the downtown development authority liaison, the development was around downtown. [1:02:17, 1:02:25]: We actually could you talk about the coordination a little bit with the the the the proposed trail around the STEM school? [1:02:26, 1:02:30]: Uh yes, so that is let me pull [1:02:32, 1:02:52]: So you have the map up here. So yeah, the idea with the STEM school, out here you've got there's a road, it's Ward Street, I believe, and it used to have a crossing of the railroad, so it served a purpose. When Norfolk Southern and the state of Georgia decided to close some of the railroad [1:02:52, 1:03:03]: crossings on little towns across Georgia, that was one that was closed. It doesn't really have a purpose from a traffic perspective except for school connection. [1:03:04, 1:03:24]: And so as the STEM school is being built and or rebuilt and that that uh space is being recalibrated for schools and entry levels, et cetera, where people are coming in, we see an opportunity to extend that street, convert it to a greenway. It's already paved again. We like those. [1:03:24, 1:03:44]: When you've got a street, it's already paved, ready to go, very low cost, but then extend that. So what we're looking at here is extending that over then to Rock Quarry Road along South Lee Street. And that would be an opportunity for y'all then to, you know, the vision there where we're [1:03:44, 1:04:04]: Where we're creating a future for our kids, and the kids learn to go to school on a bike or they walk with their family, that is a big cultural shift and a real opportunity that Stockbridge has that a lot of other communities don't have. Because they were all built out, all car oriented, and the [1:04:04, 1:04:08]: kids get driven to school every day without fail. This is a chance to change that. [1:04:09, 1:04:29]: Absolutely and certainly the d the graphics on that are amazing. District five, don't get jealous. We got a couple things coming too, and we've been fortunate to have some private developments such as the bridges at Jodico. Uh Patrick Henry Parkway will have trails. Country Club Drive will have trails uh certainly. And the Western Parallel Canal. [1:04:29, 1:04:49]: Connector will have some as well. So even though not indicated, that's that's the direction we're going in, and that'll be another phase and where we're going in the city. And hopefully, as we move forward and we complete Rock Quarry Road widening with the multi-use path from Eagles Landing Parkway down to North. [1:04:49, 1:05:09]: One day you'll be able to take a golf cart, possibly, from the country club and get to downtown, or take your bike and get from get to downtown. So let's continue to push forward and maybe uh show the residents that we're doing the right things with these dollars, and then maybe they'll approve another T-Sponse. [1:05:09, 1:05:15]: flies for us so we can go and get those second and third phases uh done and funded locally. Thank you. [1:05:15, 1:05:35]: In reference to this uh Ward Street connection, taking it uh pathway by the STEM school and onto Rock excuse me, onto yeah, Rock Cory, that means the rail line is gonna be as you go s uh actually going kinda like in a southerly direction basically. And so so the railroad line is to your to the right. [1:05:35, 1:05:55]: Correct. Alright, so somehow there has to be a point that well I'm I'm thinking of going that in that direction, that south direction railroad so a l to you right. So what amounts to I guess there's have to be some type of connection uh to somehow get to that bridge over Rock Cory or connect it to the Rock Cory itself, because the rail line is there, so you're gonna have to [1:05:55, 1:06:05]: kind of cross it some type of way. Okay. You'll have Heritage Trail following that on the [1:06:05, 1:06:25]: Sorry, east side of the railroad. And then on the west side of the railroad will be this um uh the amphitheater trail that we're calling. The amphitheater trail tracks along Ward Street and then cuts off as an independent trail on the south side of that STEM school project over [1:06:25, 1:06:35]: to South Lee Street where then it becomes side path over to Rock Quarter. Gotcha now. Now I got it. Okay. Yeah. Appreciate it. Thank you. No of course. Okay. All right. Any other questions? [1:06:38, 1:06:58]: So otherwise by the timeline and up to this evening, uh you'll be coming back to us on February tenth for a final approval of this process. That's what we're hoping for. If there's any if anybody has any specific questions, please let me know. We'd like to finalize the draft. I'm gonna work with Mr. Aaron and Mr. Gardner to make sure we have all the data accurate. Uh Mr. Allen. [1:06:58, 1:07:18]: Alexander referenced some projects on the south side of the city. We want to make sure that those are that show up on the on the map, because then this becomes official document, and that's an important thing for you all as you are coordinating to Councilmember Thomas's uh point earlier. Then we're coordinating across the departments. [1:07:18, 1:07:26]: And then Councilmember Thomas can say, Oh, that's in the trail plan. So you need to make sure that that is done right. So that's that's the opportunity. [1:07:26, 1:07:27]: Okay. [1:07:28, 1:07:48]: All right. Go ahead, please. I wanted to ask that um community survey, is it still is that link still available for the public to add feedback? No, we no, we we gave it uh we gave it three weeks and then that was during that crazy storm that we had, and so we extended it a few weeks and we pushed it. [1:07:48, 1:08:02]: through community channels at uh with the city hall and with a downtown uh group and I you know we got some responses. I think, you know, not of course you always want more, but uh yeah. [1:08:03, 1:08:04]: All right. [1:08:04, 1:08:11]: If you know the questions at all. Thank you, sir. We look forward to seeing you. Thank you very much. I look forward to seeing you in a couple of weeks. Yes indeed. [1:08:12, 1:08:13]: Okay. [1:08:14, 1:08:34]: What's the next council is a consent agenda item consider the council consider the use of the mural managers conference center on Saturday, March 29th of 2025 for the youth council expo. And uh Mr. Who's presenting this? Mr. Gardner, are you presenting this, sir? Yes, sir. What's the present? All right. Any qu okay [1:08:34, 1:08:38]: Okay. It is consent, that's true. So our input. [1:08:38, 1:08:41]: Go ahead, I'm sorry. I just I'll move to approve it. [1:08:41, 1:08:44]: Okay from Miss Gantt to Miss Barber. All in favorable indicate. [1:08:45, 1:09:05]: All right, so unanimous decision. All right. And then what we have next, believe it or not, announcement of upcoming the meetings and events. Council meetings will be held in the city council chamber. Meeting dates, location, and times are subject to change. Contact City offices at 770-3897900 or visit the website of www.com. [1:09:05, 1:09:25]: The U Council meeting is the first Monday of each month at 6:30 p.m. City Hall Levi Meeting Room, which is February 3rd. Stockbridge Citizens Police Advisory Council meetings first Thursday of each month at 6:30 p.m. the Stockbridge Police Community Room at 45, 45 North Henry Boulevard. [1:09:25, 1:09:45]: February 6th. Our next city council meeting is well city council meeting the second Monday of each month at 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers, which is February 10th. The Citywide Development Authority meeting is second Tuesday of each month. The City Hall in the Levi Meeting Room at 6 p.m. on February 11th. The community zoning informational meeting, Thursday, January 10th. [1:09:45, 1:09:48]: Well that's already happened. January second's already [1:09:49, 1:10:08]: Anyway, so 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. at the city council chambers, February 12th is the next community zoning informational meeting. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting on the second Friday of each uh month at 9 a.m. Location with the Downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, which is February 14th. [1:10:08, 1:10:28]: The Downtown Development Authority meeting is third Tuesday of each month at the Downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, which is February 18th. Uh Youth Council Advisory Committee meeting six thirty PM third Tuesday of each month to leave our meeting room. The next one is uh February eighteenth in the city hall. The planning commission meeting the [1:10:28, 1:10:48]: Third Thursday of each month, 6:30 p.m. in the City Hall Council Chambers, February 20th. And a city council work session for the month of uh February. Of course, this is last Tuesday of each month at 6 p.m. in the City Hall Council Chambers, which is actually February 25th. Uh upcoming city events and initiatives. Join uh Council [1:10:48, 1:11:08]: Councilman Barber for the annual prom dress collection and giveaway at Merrill Manters Conference Center, accepting donations of new or gently used prom dresses on Sunday, February 9th and 16th. And a free giveaway of addresses to local teens on Sunday, February 23rd. And since there are more information to follow, join Councilman Thomas. [1:11:08, 1:11:28]: In the monthly Bingo Bash on Wednesday, February 19th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon at the Murray Man's Conference Center. And lots of fun, of course, to be had by all. Join Councilman Alexander for the quarterly town hall, Thursday, February 20th, 7 p.m. And more information to follow on that. I would imagine that'd be the location. Join Councilman Thomas for the annual African-American celebration of [1:11:28, 1:11:48]: On Saturday, February 22nd. The program will be streamlined, I guess, from 5 to 7 p.m. on the city's Facebook page. And join me, Mayor Ford, for the monthly meeting the mayor, February 24th from 10 a.m. to 12 noon, the city hall. And meetings are by appointment. Councilman Thomas will also be honoring veterans with the [1:11:48, 1:12:08]: continue salute to all year long. Please send your pictures of veterans and their names, branch, rank, and years of service. And also join Councilman Thomas with Don't Trash Drop Bridge initiative centered around education highlighting the causes and effects of littering and illegal dumping. And of course more information to follow about that. Please con Rosalyn Rawls to schedule an appointment to meet the [1:12:08, 1:12:26]: The mayor with more information for or more information on council initiatives is 678-833-3348 or by way of email ralls at stopbridgega.org. This is still January 2025, so please get your flu shots. The winter months are still here. Obviously we had a snow. [1:12:27, 1:12:47]: problems of about a week or so ago, but uh we got through that one. If you haven't had your booster, your covet booster, please do so as well, the current one. Um we d actually we the council myself just uh finished our Cities United summit with GMA just last couple of days and uh down downtown Atlanta and connected with our local other elected officials [1:12:47, 1:13:07]: Around the state as well as our state uh legislators, so that was a very good conference in that aspect. And um today we had a wonderful um ribbon cutting at the bridge of Jodico with uh Hacienda Bar and Grill. Fantastic ribbon cutting event. Wonderful. I would imagine that anybody, any time, go and go to our [1:13:07, 1:13:27]: There and check them out, get some uh good Mexican food and and have fun. Worked out well. We had a great time. Mr. Alexander and I, along with staff members and uh and the actual uh deputy chair of of I guess you call me Robinson is the vice chair of a commission joined us for that as well. And of course, if you are any football fans, [1:13:27, 1:13:38]: uh of course you got a Super Bowl coming up so you know if you like Kansas City root for them. You like Philadelphia Eagles root for them. If you don't like football, huh, you know, I guess enjoy the game anyway. Right. So uh [1:13:38, 1:13:58]: And I I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna put it out there. I'm a Philadelphia Eagle fan right now. So yes, sir. Okay, uh you asked about my town hall. It's gonna be at the Oaks at Eagles Landing um community uh on Pat at 2700 Patrick Henry Park. All right, good deal. Uh be safe, folks, and we want you healthy and strong, so make sure you're gonna be able to do [1:13:58, 1:14:13]: sure you take care of yourself uh health wise and for that note that I don't know of any executive session issues so I need a motion to end our meeting. So move. I say for Mr. Alexander and Ms. Ken all in fair please indicate. So you have to see and God bless you all. Good night. [1:14:16, 1:14:16]: Yes. [1:14:18, 1:14:18]: Yeah.