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--- title: City Council Special Called Meeting date: 2025-07-01 source: 2025-07-01_City_Council_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:12, 0:00:13]: No, I'll save it. [0:00:17, 0:00:25]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to start our special call meeting. Uh this is uh Tuesday, July first, and I have actually five twenty-four. [0:00:26, 0:00:28]: Uh please stand for invocation. [0:00:29, 0:00:43]: If you can. Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again to do the city's business. Allow us to make good logical decisions and be able to move our city forward with in this aspect as well. Be as always, Lord, in your name. Amen. Pledge allegiance. [0:00:43, 0:00:54]: Place to the fire of the United States of America to the Republic for which stands One Nation, one God, indivisible liberty and justice for all. [0:00:56, 0:00:58]: Madam Clerk, Rocall, please. [0:00:58, 0:01:02]: Good evening. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. [0:01:04, 0:01:05]: And it's not an attendant. [0:01:06, 0:01:07]: Council Member Thomas. [0:01:09, 0:01:29]: Let the record reflect Council Member Thomas is not in attendance. Council Member Berry. Present. Council Member Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. Present. Mayor Ford, do you have a quorum? Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Uh Council need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. So move. For Miss Uh Ms. Farber. Uh second, Mr. Berry. All in favor, please. [0:01:29, 0:01:33]: All right. Um now need motion to go into executive session. [0:01:34, 0:01:48]: Mayor I'd like to make a motion to go into executive session for personnel real estate litigation as we normally do. All right. Sir second that motion. Second. All fair, please indicate. All right. So now she said ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back. Thank you. [0:09:15, 0:09:16]: Yeah. [1:46:53, 1:47:02]: All right, ladies and gentlemen. Council, um, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. So moved. Second. Okay, from Mr. Alzheimer's and Mr. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. [1:47:03, 1:47:23]: Unanimous decision, okay. Now I need a motion to uh reconvene our special call meeting, please. So move. Okay for Mr. Alexander? Second. Mr. Berry, all in favor, please indicate. Unanimous decision on that. And ladies and gentlemen, from the our executive session, we have a several several different motions that we need to proceed and and uh get on record here. All right. [1:47:23, 1:47:30]: Mr. Berry, please. Our first first motion is to withdraw the name of Dr. Adaderen as our sole finalist and city manager. [1:47:31, 1:47:32]: Is there a second to that motion? [1:47:33, 1:47:35]: Okay, Ms. Cant, second in all favor, please indicate. [1:47:36, 1:47:39]: All right, Mr. Berry, please. [1:47:39, 1:47:50]: All right, the second motion is to uh name Shantez Edmondson as our new sole finalist for the vacant city manager position. Okay, second from Mr. Alexander. [1:47:50, 1:47:51]: All in favor, please indicate. [1:47:53, 1:47:57]: Okay, is that now it's decision on that? Thank you very much. And um Mr. Barrett please. [1:47:58, 1:48:10]: And our final motion, sir, is to reschedule our meeting scheduled for July the fourteenth to the July fifteenth date. Second. Okay. From Mr. Alexander, second dad, on fair please syndicate. Fantastic. [1:48:10, 1:48:19]: All right, you now see on that. And now I need a motion to end our special call meeting. So moved. Second. Mr. Burr, second from the second from Mr. Alzheimer's all fair, please indicate. [1:48:19, 1:48:21]: Good night, God bless you all. We're done. [1:48:22, 1:48:23]: Thank you.

--- title: Planning Commission date: 2025-06-26 source: 2025-06-26_Planning_Commission.wav --- [0:00:23, 0:00:43]: All right. G good evening everyone. Welcome to the City of Stockbridge planning committee for June twenty-sixth, twenty twenty-five. I'm Jaden Williams, the chairman of the Planning Commissioners. The other members of the Planning Commission are sitting alongside of me on the diet. Commissioner Dumas, could you please start? [0:00:43, 0:00:50]: Start us off with an invocation. Immediately following, I ask you all to please stand and join us in the Pledge of Allegiance. Mr. Jimis. [0:00:50, 0:00:51]: That's probably. [0:00:52, 0:01:02]: Loving God, as we gather here tonight in this Hallowed Chamber to conduct the people's business, we invite your spirit into this place. [0:01:02, 0:01:14]: And we ask that each one of us will allow your spirit to guide what we say and what we do. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. Please join us in the pledge. [0:01:16, 0:01:30]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, one divide, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [0:01:33, 0:01:34]: Thank you very much. [0:01:36, 0:01:39]: Madam Miss Linda, I'll go ahead and uh start the roll call. [0:01:41, 0:01:41]: President. [0:01:43, 0:01:43]: President. [0:01:45, 0:01:46]: Present. [0:01:46, 0:01:47]: President. [0:01:51, 0:01:52]: Present. [0:01:53, 0:02:03]: Thank you so much. At this time, Commissioners, uh you have before you the agenda for tonight's meeting. If there are no changes, I'll accept a motion to approve the agenda. [0:02:03, 0:02:04]: I move approval. [0:02:05, 0:02:09]: I have a motion by Commissioner Thibodeau. Is there a second? I second it, Thibodeau. [0:02:09, 0:02:15]: There's a second uh by Mr. Timidal. All those in favor, please indicate by the sound of aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? [0:02:17, 0:02:26]: Agenda is adopted before you as well as the appr is the meeting minutes from our meeting on five twenty two, twenty twenty five. I'll accept a motion for the approval of those minutes. [0:02:26, 0:02:42]: Mr. Chairman, would you repeat the motions for adoption of amendments, please? Yes. Uh agenda rather. It was motioned by Dumas, seconded by Thibodeau. All in favor. Thank you. Of course. Commissioners, I'll accept an a a motion for approval of the last meeting minutes. [0:02:49, 0:03:01]: Mr. Chairman. Yes. I'll make the motion to approve the summary minutes. Motion by uh Mr. Mitton. Is there a second? I sign a second. Second by Vice Chair. All those in favor, please indicate by the sign up. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? [0:03:02, 0:03:03]: So moved. [0:03:07, 0:03:15]: All right, let's get into this. There are a few protocol items that I need to make you all aware of before we start tonight's public hearing cases. [0:03:16, 0:03:36]: Number one, keep your comments and presentation on a professional level dealing with facts that are important for this commission to make its decision. We would not accept comments that are considered by the chair to be a personal attack for any individual or group. You will receive a warning from the chair if you derive from these requirements. A second deviation will result in you having to leave the meeting. [0:03:36, 0:03:56]: or the premises for the evening. Refrain from any applause or comments from the audience. Only one person will be speaking at a time. All comments will be made at the podium, and after the speaker has been recognized by the chair, please direct all comments to the Chair and the Commission, not the audience or the staff. Please do not applaud or react to speakers. Speak from the audience, cheer, carry on, [0:03:56, 0:04:00]: conversations with others in the audience or disrupt the order of this meeting in any way. [0:04:01, 0:04:10]: Be aware that these hearings are not a debate or an opportunity to ask questions which must be answered by any individual tonight, but are merely an opportunity to present information to this commission. [0:04:11, 0:04:31]: Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may reserve part of his their speaking time as rebuttal and may speak next and last and may use the entire ten minutes allotted for the pro side of the application. Other than the applicant, no person may speak longer than five minutes. If you have a cell phone or other electronic device, I ask that you either power them off or put them in. [0:04:31, 0:04:31]: Silent mode. [0:04:32, 0:04:47]: If anyone wishes to speak tonight, please fill out a speaker's form which is available on the table at the front and hand it to a staff member before approaching the podium. After each item is called, we will hear next from city staff and then we'll hear from the applicant or the representative. [0:04:47, 0:05:07]: Along with any other relevant information that they wish to present, the commission members will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote on a project. Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak for or against the project or to just ask questions will have an opportunity to do so. Each side is restricted to a maximum of ten minutes, or time may be waived at the discretion of the presider. [0:05:07, 0:05:08]: Yeah. [0:05:09, 0:05:13]: If any questions are raised, we may ask the applicant to speak again. Afterwards, [0:05:13, 0:05:33]: We will call for a motion in a second and have necessary discussion. And if the matter is not tabled, we will vote to recommend approval or denial of this application. The commission is only a recommending body. The item will be heard by the mayor and council whether we recommend or recommend denial unless they are tabled. These items will be heard at the city's mayor and council. [0:05:33, 0:05:39]: Council meeting on Monday, July 14th, 2025, and the items will be voted upon at that meeting. [0:05:41, 0:05:41]: [342.8, 348.9]: I'm gonna read into records item one, two, and item three on the agenda. [0:05:50, 0:06:10]: Annexation case AX-2025-01. Property is located in Council District 5. Consideration of a request for an annexation using one hundred percent annexation method of the property at 1448 and 1468 Flippin' Road from unincorporated Henry County into the city limits of Stockbridge. The purpose is to allow for the construction of a missed [0:06:10, 0:06:30]: Residential development with townhomes and single-family detached homes. The property owner is William K. Excuse me if I said your name incorrectly. And the property owner of 1468 are the same. The applicant is Land Buyers of America LLC. The agent is Michael Kahner. The property is located in landlots 11. [0:06:30, 0:06:35]: and twelve of district six and contains twenty one point seven more or less acres. [0:06:36, 0:06:56]: Comprehensive plan amendment case CP-2025-01. Property is located in Council District 5. Consideration of a request for a comprehensive plan amendment for the property after after the property is annexed into the city limits. The property currently has the Henry County Future Land Use Resident Designation of Medium Density Suburbs. [0:06:56, 0:07:16]: And the applicant requests that it is assigned to the Stockbridge future land use designation of medium density residential. The purpose is to allow for construction of a mixed residential development with townhomes and single-family homes. The property contains 21.7 more or less acres. Rezoning case RZ-2025-01. [0:07:16, 0:07:21]: Located in Council District five. After the property is annexed into the city, the property's current [0:07:21, 0:07:41]: Henry County Zoning District is RA, Residential Agricultural, and the applicant requests that the property be assigned to the City of Stockbridge Zoning District of PUD Planned Unit Development. The purpose is to allow for the construction of a mixed residential development with townhomes and single family, which contains 21.7 more or less acres. The staff will now give a joint pre- [0:07:41, 0:07:45]: Presentation of all three cases. Please staff. [0:08:30, 0:08:39]: Good evening, everyone. This is a PowerPoint presentation for property at 1448 and 1468 Flippin' Road for three cases. [0:08:39, 0:08:46]: Um AX twenty twenty five oh one, C P twenty twenty five oh one and R Z twenty twenty five oh one. [0:08:53, 0:09:06]: So I'm gonna discuss probably first give the overview of the proposed project and then get into the analysis for each one of the three cases. Um so the purposes of the cases, the property description, and the proposed development. [0:09:07, 0:09:24]: Um the purpose of annexation case AX twenty twenty-five oh one is to annex property from unincorporated Henry County to the Stockwood City limits and purpose of comprehensive plan amendment case number CP twenty twenty-five oh one is to change the property's future land use designation. [0:09:25, 0:09:31]: From Henry County's residential suburban to City of Stockbridge's resid medium density residential. [0:09:31, 0:09:34]: And then for rezoning case number R Z twenty twenty five oh one. [0:09:34, 0:09:38]: Its purpose is to change a property's zoning district from Henry County's R A [0:09:39, 0:09:43]: Residential Agricultural Zoning District to the City of Stockbridge's [0:09:43, 0:09:48]: PUD Plan Unit Development District, the applicants, land buyers of America L L C [0:09:48, 0:09:49]: Agent Michael Kahner. [0:09:50, 0:09:51]: Um and [0:09:51, 0:10:03]: Now the annexation case must be approved uh before the other two cases can can be approved. Here is a joint aerial photo. There are two parcels side by side in Flippin' Road just south of [0:10:03, 0:10:05]: I seventy five. [0:10:06, 0:10:07]: And then um [0:10:07, 0:10:14]: The first one, fourteen forty eight, there's some floodplain areas around there. A little bit of it touches on the corner of this parcel. [0:10:19, 0:10:33]: Uh we mentioned already the property owners, twenty seven point seven seven one total acres roughly. This is located on the west side of Flippin Flippin' Road, south of Surge Stone Lane, and across from the St. Ives Court. Excuse me. [0:10:34, 0:10:40]: Uh the property's mostly wooded, except for a single family home on each parcel. [0:10:40, 0:10:41]: Um [0:10:41, 0:10:48]: The future land use designation residential suburban by Henry County and current zoning RA by Henry County. [0:10:50, 0:10:53]: Let's see, we have some additional information here. Some of this is [0:10:53, 0:10:55]: been mentioned already? [0:10:55, 0:11:00]: surrounding zoning, we have suburban and residential to the north in the city. [0:11:00, 0:11:05]: uh rural agriculture to the west, single family residence uh to the southwest. [0:11:06, 0:11:08]: Rural agricultural and multifamily to the south. [0:11:09, 0:11:17]: Residential duplex, Henry County to the southeast, and suburban residential and PUD to the east. Um [0:11:21, 0:11:24]: Okay, here's a joint future land use map. [0:11:24, 0:11:27]: Of the property shown by the two stars. [0:11:29, 0:11:31]: Uh joint zoning map. [0:11:32, 0:11:36]: Here is the survey of the property. There is a house on each parcel right now. [0:11:37, 0:11:44]: All right, the proposed development uh developer proposes a mixed residential subdivision to be called Hanover Park. [0:11:45, 0:11:50]: It would contain thirty one single family detached units and a hundred twenty [0:11:50, 0:11:51]: Town home units. [0:11:51, 0:11:54]: Uh for a total of a hundred and fifty one units. [0:11:54, 0:11:57]: Density would be six point nine four units per acre. [0:11:58, 0:12:15]: They're proposing PUD. Uh that's necessary because they're including two types of residential uses. Otherwise, if it was just one, it would be MFR. All units will have three bedrooms, two baths, two car garages. And homes would have sixteen hundred to two thousand square feet. [0:12:15, 0:12:25]: and be covered by brick and hardyboard uh facades. Uh there are quite a few uh amenities being proposed, a pool with a clubhouse, golf putting green, tot lot, [0:12:26, 0:12:35]: tennis or t pickleball courts and a community sports field. Um they've prepared a colored site plan and a black and white sub plan uh site plan. [0:12:35, 0:12:36]: Um [0:12:36, 0:12:40]: And the title is Annexation and rezoning plan for H Hanover Park. [0:12:43, 0:12:44]: Let's see if we can get to the [0:12:46, 0:12:55]: Here's the colored site plan. And this is Flippin' Road on the east on the on the east side. So it would have two entrances off of Flippin' Road. [0:12:55, 0:13:03]: uh circular driveway around. There would be a clubhouse and a pool at the front with some guest parking. [0:13:03, 0:13:11]: uh pickleball or tennis courts in the center, a community sports field, and uh golf pudding green in the taut lot. [0:13:12, 0:13:19]: And n they would have the single family homes mainly on the north side here, around to the back. [0:13:20, 0:13:28]: Um and then the town homes would be more i in the in the center and then down on the south side. And there'd be one large house here at the front. [0:13:30, 0:13:31]: Here's an enlargement of that. [0:13:34, 0:13:41]: The black and white site plan so shows further details. Um the the the lot individual lots are numbered. [0:13:41, 0:13:42]: And so forth. [0:13:44, 0:13:50]: There is some uh wetlands down in this corner. Let me go back to this other slide here. [0:13:53, 0:13:54]: Um [0:13:56, 0:14:02]: So I mentioned all this. There'd be a twenty five foot uh buffer around the property. Um [0:14:06, 0:14:18]: Setbacks twenty feet in the front yards for all units, five feet in the side yards for single family lots, uh zero feet on the for on the side for town home lots, and twenty feet in the rear yards for all lots. [0:14:19, 0:14:24]: Now these setbarks are not required because they're rezoning the PUD, but this is just what they proposed. [0:14:25, 0:14:27]: Distance between town home buildings twenty feet. [0:14:27, 0:14:28]: Um [0:14:32, 0:14:32]: Okay. [0:14:34, 0:14:37]: This is just a table with all that same information. [0:14:43, 0:14:47]: Okay. This is an analysis of the annexation case. [0:14:51, 0:15:03]: So there were several questions to to be answered. Uh mainly is the property contiguous to um a property that's already in the city and yes it would be. Uh several parcels. [0:15:03, 0:15:06]: Next to uh Saint Ives Court. [0:15:06, 0:15:09]: And another parcel next to Rum Creek subdivision. [0:15:09, 0:15:12]: The hundred percent annexation method will be used. [0:15:12, 0:15:13]: Um [0:15:14, 0:15:17]: And the property would be within Henry County boundary. [0:15:20, 0:15:28]: The property is receiving mun municipal services from Henry County, um, the Water Authority, Henry County Fire and EMS, also Georgia Power. [0:15:30, 0:15:34]: And the properties that would be used for urban purposes would be developed. [0:15:34, 0:15:36]: With a proposed development. [0:15:37, 0:15:40]: Um they've also applied for comprehensive plan. [0:15:40, 0:15:41]: Amendment? [0:15:44, 0:15:53]: This would help to further one of the goals of the comprehensive plan by providing new additional housing into the city, providing options with different types of housing. [0:15:54, 0:15:54]: Um [0:15:56, 0:15:58]: The site seems to be suitable. [0:16:01, 0:16:02]: Okay. [0:16:06, 0:16:09]: All right, we recommend approval of the annexation case. [0:16:10, 0:16:13]: Now here's analysis of the comprehensive plan amendment case. [0:16:14, 0:16:16]: So the request is to [0:16:16, 0:16:20]: A sign after property's annexed into the city if that happens. [0:16:21, 0:16:25]: Uh request is assigned a future land use designation of medium density residential [0:16:26, 0:16:28]: To allow the mixed residential development. [0:16:29, 0:16:39]: Medium density residential allows a density from four to seven point nine nine units, and this would be uh six point uh nine four units per acre. [0:16:43, 0:16:51]: We have some of the surrounding land use designations, low and medium density, uh f couple high density. [0:16:52, 0:16:52]: Um [0:16:53, 0:17:00]: This property would have a density of six point nine four units per acre. Flippin' wood town homes nearby would be similar to that. [0:17:02, 0:17:04]: And yeah, there's our single family. [0:17:05, 0:17:07]: These are some of the surrounding developments. [0:17:11, 0:17:20]: Uh so as I said, this will meet the housing goal of the comprehensive plan, make adequate uh facilities and services available to city residents. [0:17:21, 0:17:24]: And have appropriate land use designations. [0:17:30, 0:17:31]: They [0:17:32, 0:17:37]: relation to the zoning of the uh surrounding property would be compatible with other surrounding la land use designations? [0:17:38, 0:17:41]: Uh, which includes single family and town home developments. [0:17:44, 0:17:49]: And there would be there's other s medium density residential designations in the area. [0:17:50, 0:17:51]: Okay. [0:17:52, 0:17:59]: We recommend approval of CP twenty twenty five oh one. Now the analysis for the rezoning case are Z twenty twenty five oh one. [0:18:01, 0:18:04]: There's certain standards that have to be met, consistency with the comprehensive plan. [0:18:05, 0:18:06]: Which I've covered. [0:18:11, 0:18:15]: I mentioned that it needs to be PUD because two types of land uses would be included. [0:18:17, 0:18:24]: Uh this would be an extension of another PUD uh zoning district on the other side of Flippin' Road. [0:18:24, 0:18:27]: There would be a number of amenities included in the project. [0:18:28, 0:18:30]: Property's fairly flat right now. [0:18:32, 0:18:35]: It seems suitable for the development of of the property. [0:18:36, 0:18:38]: You don't participate. [0:18:38, 0:18:42]: Um adverse impacts on surrounding uh properties. [0:18:45, 0:18:54]: The applicant obtained a water authority, a letter from Henry County Water Authority, which stated that water and sewer services are available to serve proposed development. [0:18:54, 0:18:55]: Oh. [0:18:57, 0:19:02]: No traffic impact study was submitted. Uh we could not [0:19:03, 0:19:06]: Uh evaluate that impact as of yet. [0:19:07, 0:19:08]: There would be two [0:19:09, 0:19:17]: uh entrances to the property that would accommodate emergency vehicles. Deceleration lanes and sidewalks will be provided along Flip Flippin' Road. [0:19:22, 0:19:27]: Okay, uh we've concluded that the proposed re mixed residential development will be well suited to the site. [0:19:27, 0:19:29]: It would be attractive design. [0:19:29, 0:19:34]: It's good that they're having two site two accesses to the property for emergency vehicles. [0:19:35, 0:19:35]: Um [0:19:36, 0:19:38]: And they would have sufficient open space [0:19:38, 0:19:43]: Um the proposed density setbacks and distances would be reasonable. [0:19:44, 0:19:44]: Um [0:19:45, 0:19:59]: We actually calculated that they would provide uh well over the amount of parking that's needed. We recommend approval conditions uh based on the uh site plan that is similar to the one that was submitted, having um [0:20:00, 0:20:02]: Decelerations and project entrances. [0:20:02, 0:20:05]: Actually I mentioned that parking was actually sufficient. [0:20:06, 0:20:10]: An architectural design proposed home shall be constructed with styles of exterior materials. [0:20:11, 0:20:13]: Which comply with UDC standards. [0:20:13, 0:20:16]: And for property maintenance, uh HOA or property management. [0:20:17, 0:20:19]: Companies shall maintain the common areas. [0:20:19, 0:20:21]: of the property and the townhomes. [0:20:23, 0:20:24]: Any questions? [0:20:25, 0:20:27]: Thank you so much, Linda. Are there any questions for staff? [0:20:29, 0:20:39]: Mr. Chairman, I have a question. Please. Ms. Logan, so is there any um potential for a traffic impact study before this uh this moves forward? [0:20:40, 0:20:46]: Uh that would be a question to the applicant. Applicant is here tonight and is is gonna be making a presentation. Maybe you can answer that question. Thank you. [0:20:47, 0:20:57]: You have a question. I have one. Please. Mr. Logan, this development could it be accomplished without annexation? [0:21:00, 0:21:07]: Well, I don't know whether the applicant applied with Henry County or not. Um that was their option. [0:21:10, 0:21:15]: It looks from what I've seen on the plans, it looks very similar to [0:21:16, 0:21:34]: a subdivision development just north of that site where you have a combination of town homes and single family residential and s a few amenities. That particular project is located in Henry County. [0:21:35, 0:21:41]: I was just curious as to couldn't that same thing be done on this site without an annexation? [0:21:42, 0:21:43]: As po as possible. [0:21:45, 0:21:48]: But the applicants chosen to apply for annexation. [0:21:49, 0:21:50]: I understand that. [0:21:52, 0:21:55]: But the annexation [0:21:57, 0:21:59]: What further [0:22:00, 0:22:20]: Exacerbate what I've been widely hearing as to the balance of commercial versus residential property in the City's stock bridge. The burden is heavily skewed now toward residential property owners. Uh and and to continue to add. [0:22:20, 0:22:23]: add residential properties doesn't help that situation at all. [0:22:25, 0:22:33]: That's where I was going with the question. I'm not necessarily questioning the project itself, but does it need to be in Stark Bridge in order for it to happen? [0:22:34, 0:22:36]: That's for the council to decide. [0:22:38, 0:22:43]: I'm gonna echo your sentiments on that, Commissioner. But uh if there's any if there are no other questions. Can you hear me now? [0:22:44, 0:22:54]: Say it again. I said I'm gonna echo your sentiments because I I stand with that as well. But if there are no other questions for staff, I would like to hear from the applicant and allot those ten minutes to have our necessary questions. [0:22:56, 0:22:59]: If the applicant can please come up and say their name and address. [0:23:03, 0:23:03]: Thank you, Ms. Lynn. [0:23:38, 0:23:58]: Good afternoon, Planning Commission, staff, public. My name is Jonathan Jones and I'm with Elite Engineering. I represent land buyers of America for the proposed annexation and rezoning of about 22 acres located adjacent to the city. One of the questions obviously is could it be developed in Henry County? Um it probably could be developed in [0:23:58, 0:24:02]: [1443.0, 1452.0]: was searching for property that could was either in the city or could be annexed in the city. Um just to be honest with you, the city of Stockbridge has a better [0:24:13, 0:24:18]: persona marketability than Henry County in most parts and [0:24:18, 0:24:19]: We feel or they felt. [0:24:20, 0:24:28]: like it was a a a better product and a better project to be in the city. And that's solely the reason that we we went that route. Um [0:24:29, 0:24:30]: Де її [0:24:32, 0:24:34]: Get this thing so everybody can see it. [0:24:38, 0:24:39]: There it goes. [0:24:40, 0:24:42]: All right, let me see if I can't make this [0:24:43, 0:24:51]: Okay. Um so a couple things that we have done to try to uh differentiate this project. [0:24:51, 0:25:01]: um from adjacent properties and other projects that these these developers are doing is the amenities is going to be a restore a resort style amenity. [0:25:01, 0:25:21]: When you pull into development, the first thing you're gonna see is the clubhouse. It's gonna be a very nice clubhouse, it's gonna have a pool, it's gonna have putt putt greens that'll be weatherproof, it's gonna have um pickleball courts, it's gonna have a community playground right centralized in between um the community, it's gonna have sidewalks that walk [0:25:21, 0:25:41]: Walk all around the community and connect to the amenity itself. And there's a requirement for a 10-foot sidewalk along the entire frontage of Flippin' Road. So the investment alone in the amenity by this development group is g is gonna be quite s excessive. And that that alone should should, in my opinion, tell you that they're serious about wanting to. [0:25:41, 0:25:53]: to be here. They're serious about want to do a quality product here. They didn't come in with little cabana and a little bitty pool. They came in with a strategy of providing something that people want to live at. [0:25:54, 0:25:55]: Oh. [0:25:55, 0:25:56]: Um [0:25:56, 0:26:16]: It it is a mixed use, uh can considered a mixed use because there's single family homes and there's town homes and and we have uh tried to design the project so that the north and west um we build single family homes adjacent to single family homes um to limit the impact. We realize that no matter what. [0:26:16, 0:26:17]: Right. [0:26:17, 0:26:26]: Whether we develop this property or somebody else develops this property, it impacts the neighbors. We recognize that and we try to be conscious enough to [0:26:26, 0:26:46]: to to you know if if there's single family there then we want to we want to match it. We didn't we didn't try to put townhomes up against single family. We intentionally tried to differentiate. Another one of the concerns um was was access in and out. We're providing a parkway style entrance where it'll have a divided medium. It'll have two in, two out, and [0:26:46, 0:26:57]: We're going to provide a traffic study and if that traffic study warrants a light or a left turn lane, we're amenable to putting in those items. [0:26:58, 0:27:01]: A lot of people don't understand exactly about the light. [0:27:03, 0:27:12]: We can't put a light in because we want to and we can't put a light in because you want to. If it's warranted, then we're allowed to put it in. There's strict [0:27:12, 0:27:16]: requirements. Now I personally think with the traffic on this road, it will be warranted. [0:27:17, 0:27:18]: So but [0:27:19, 0:27:27]: Whether the county wanted to, the city wanted to, or a local developer wanted to, you just don't get to put a light in. It has to be warranted. So um [0:27:27, 0:27:35]: The proposal is 120 townhomes, 31 single family homes. The townhomes will be a mix of two story and three story. [0:27:35, 0:27:36]: Um [0:27:38, 0:27:44]: Staff did recommend approval um and and part of the the um comprehensive plan amendment [0:27:44, 0:27:51]: Um it it it denoted that this development would quote help the city in its needs for additional housing. [0:27:52, 0:28:07]: Um that's not something we created. That was something that staff noted. Um it is compatible with adjacent properties. There's some PUDs, there's some town homes, there's some duplexes. Um the open space we're providing is more than is required under the requirements. Um [0:28:08, 0:28:18]: The density allowed is from four to eight units per acre, so we fall within that. Um this project build out would not happen before the 75 connector is completed. [0:28:19, 0:28:39]: So I know part of the concerns is traffic and getting from point A to point B, but the intent would be that the 75 connector would be completed before the duration of this project. One thing that I did note from Miss Linda when she was talking, it said something about the houses 1600 to eight or to 2,000. The minimum we intend to build is 1800 square. [0:28:39, 0:28:50]: square feet. I know that's not a huge difference, but we wanted to at least mention that, you know, we we the minimum we would do is eighteen hundred and that that includes townhomes or otherwise. Um [0:28:50, 0:28:57]: Once again, we will be providing a traffic study and if warranted, left turn lane uh [0:28:57, 0:29:15]: the D cell lanes will obviously be added no matter what and if a light's warranted we would we'd be involved in in all of that participation. Um we did check with the county water and sewer is readily available for this project and can support the quantity of units that we're proposing. [0:29:15, 0:29:18]: Um I'll be happy to let let me go through [0:29:19, 0:29:21]: So you've got you've got some, you know [0:29:21, 0:29:25]: renditions of elevations of of what we propose the homes to look like. [0:29:26, 0:29:29]: Miss Linda already showed the site plan. [0:29:29, 0:29:38]: Um this is once again the amenity area. It's centralized the Mel kiosk, the clubhouse, the pool, putting green, pot lot, pickleball. [0:29:39, 0:29:59]: The the the sports field is all in the center of the community. So everybody can get there. When you get home, unfortunately in this day and age, we don't have mailboxes. I mean I do, but most people don't have them. You got to go to a kiosk. That's something that we don't like. Nobody likes, but it's required. We try to centralize. [0:29:59, 0:30:01]: So when you get home from work. [0:30:02, 0:30:18]: You can go get your mail right there at the front door at the clubhouse and then go. Or you can go home and get your kids and walk the sidewalks up to the amenities, spend some time, get your mail, however. So we try to and then like I said, this would be a version of of the the three story town home type product. [0:30:19, 0:30:20]: And um [0:30:21, 0:30:24]: More like a two story type product and there'll be a mix of twos and threes. [0:30:25, 0:30:35]: Um but I I'd be happy to to take the rest of my time to answer any questions you guys may have, staff may have, or for rebuttal for anybody who may be in opposition to this project. [0:30:36, 0:30:50]: Thank you so much, sir. Thank you, sir. Um I'm gonna start off with some board comments and I'm gonna kick us off here. Um few questions. I saw when staff was reporting about setbacks, are there gonna I didn't see any setbacks for the size of the town homes? [0:30:50, 0:31:10]: Yes, according to um so it there has to be twenty feet between the buildings. That's that's N FPA National Fire Protection Association code fourteen. So it doesn't matter if I we engineering Marietta or Stockbridge, twenty foot's a minimum because of firewalls and and the things. So you are gonna follow that that guy. Yes, we'll follow that exactly. Now where a townhome abuts the resident. [0:31:10, 0:31:20]: Residential, the residential rear setback will come into play and there'll be a side yard setback for the townhome of five. And then the rear setback for the home would be [0:31:20, 0:31:40]: what's defined, which I believe is a twenty foot front, a twenty foot rear, and five foot side. So um hopefully that answers your question. Yeah, I have a few more. Okay. Um and some of these are very short. Yes, absolutely. Plans to be gated? Is this gonna be a gated community or is this open? So we we would love to gate it in conversations with [0:31:40, 0:31:55]: with um Henry County Fire Department, they're not an advocate of of of putting a gate in and we're proposing a parkway style entrance where you've got two out, two in and a median, which to us that lends perfection for a gated entrance. [0:31:55, 0:32:01]: But they want a stacking off of flipping roads so deep into the property. [0:32:01, 0:32:08]: that it would it'd nearby nearby be impossible. Uh in my opinion, the only way a gated community could work [0:32:08, 0:32:28]: for Henry County's fire is for the property to be way larger than this, like a big master plan community or something. But if staff sees it as an opportunity for us to gate it, I think my client would be more than willing and want to gate it. Even if it was a faux gate, so it looked like it was a gated community, they would even be open to that. [0:32:28, 0:32:30]: It really depends on [0:32:30, 0:32:34]: You know, if staff can work with us in Henry County if approved. [0:32:35, 0:32:44]: to to to get it gated, we I think that would be something we'd all love to see. I think it would lend itself and honestly it'd make these residents feel much better about their community too. [0:32:44, 0:33:04]: Yeah, I'm not sure a gated community in that area would be a fit for that specific community or in that area because it doesn't fit the tone of that district. Okay. Let me ask, cause I know you got a water, uh a letter from our water into it from Hemory County. I love that. I know we don't have a traffic study, but that's fine because we are already aware of the uh big [0:33:04, 0:33:20]: building and construction of our expansions and our roads. But did you never mention an impact study? Like did you actually talk to those residents in those areas and those surrounding communities in that neighborhood that you said um had those single family homes? Did you all have an opportunity to have those conversations with them? [0:33:20, 0:33:29]: Um so uh Zach Zach you did? Yep. So so Zach Murray has been helping facilitate he's had dental surgery and so he's [0:33:30, 0:33:35]: not super available. But um he had taught us some s not only staff, but I think some [0:33:35, 0:33:42]: political people and some people in the community and and that's why we changed up and made it single family around [0:33:42, 0:33:45]: what we consider the residential and and I know [0:33:45, 0:33:46]: uh behind us or [0:33:47, 0:34:07]: What's the the opp opposite direction of flipping? I guess that would be to the west. There's some nice large estate homes. So furthermore, we we put a a buffer back there, we put single family homes back there. So, you know, once again, any let me say I think that's great, but my question was not the politics and the community, because I we community people and I don't live anywhere near that. [0:34:07, 0:34:15]: That that residency. Okay. My question is the people that are impacted directly in that area, did you have a conversation with that back neighborhood? [0:34:24, 0:34:32]: Thank you so much. Um and then also I had three more questions than I prom I mean. Yeah, totally. So and and no and [0:34:33, 0:34:40]: Don't don't don't badge me now. But is the property value gonna decrease for those homes that are in there because they're directly across the street from a town home? [0:34:42, 0:34:46]: Well, so the question is is how old are those homes? [0:34:46, 0:34:49]: Okay. Okay. Um these these new town homes are gonna be [0:34:50, 0:34:51]: Probably [0:34:51, 0:34:57]: Well into the threes, possibly fours, and the single families will be more than that. Is that is that a fair statement, Josh? So [0:34:58, 0:35:12]: Looking at the the existing sales in that area of existing homes, it's below that. Is it gonna decrease their value? I would venture to say they'll say yes. My statement is is new product, new price points. [0:35:13, 0:35:19]: If it was across the street from me, it would increase my value because I know my taxes would go up. So I'm just gonna shoot you straight. That's my opinion. [0:35:20, 0:35:36]: And what's your rental cap? Are we doing a rental cap at all or is this straight person? Yeah, there is no intent to do rental here. So whatever the city standard is for rental cap, we're fine with. I know most of the time it's no more than ten percent, but whatever the city of Stockbridge's regulation, we're amenable to that. There's no intent to make this a rental community of any kind. [0:35:36, 0:35:40]: Okay. And then my last um [0:35:41, 0:35:44]: I'll hold them and I'll pass it to another board member if they have any questions. [0:35:46, 0:35:46]: Yeah. [0:35:46, 0:35:49]: Right here, Vash chair? Go ahead. Go ahead. [0:35:49, 0:36:08]: Yes, I I was I actually love the amenities that are coming with this property. Yes, ma'am. So I commend you on that. But um I just had a comment and and just um knowing some single families um and the amenities that you're trying to offer. [0:36:08, 0:36:28]: I just feel like, you know, and speaking for m uh you know, for a single family that it's gonna fall you know, the mini the m the cost of the amenities and things like that are gonna fall on the backs of the single family. And it's you know, with the rent or the mortgage being, you know, as much as is as it is. [0:36:28, 0:36:33]: You know, I don't I'm not sure if you know this um [0:36:34, 0:36:41]: This property is giving single families a break, essentially. And and what's the the the makeup of it? Is it hardy wick hardy plank and wood? [0:36:42, 0:37:02]: Uh it it's a combination of bricks, uh rock and hardy plank uh is I believe the materials. Um Miss Miss Linda could confirm that, but I believe that's in the plan to charge single families about three to four hundred thousand for these? Uh no, the single families would be probably more into the four to fives and then yeah, the townhomes will be [0:37:01, 0:37:05]: definitely in the high threes and the fours. Yeah. [0:37:06, 0:37:14]: Yeah and and to answer your question, I didn't mean to cut you off so if you're if you uh we tried to pick amenities package that is less burdensome so [0:37:15, 0:37:16]: Play fields. [0:37:16, 0:37:36]: Take up a lot of room, but they're relatively inexpensive to take care of. The putt and greens that we put in, um, it's the new AstroTurf. The initial cost by the developer is pretty pretty strong, but they come with a 20-year lifetime warranty on the material. So in theory, if something were to go wrong, the HOA could submit. [0:37:36, 0:37:56]: For a warranty if it's within the first 20 years. After 20 years, yeah, they may have to upgrade it. Also, pickleballs last approximately twice as long as tennis tennis courts. Two pickleballs equal one tennis court, basically. And so you don't have expensive nets. The fencing usually stays, you know. [0:37:56, 0:38:16]: Pretty pretty good. So we tried to pick amenities that wouldn't be financially burdensome. Um, the pool, yes, we all know. And the clubhouse itself, we all know those those two items, they will be a financial cost. But with 151 residents, we feel confident that this amenity package ultimately the HOA. [0:38:16, 0:38:19]: uh dues would be very uh [0:38:20, 0:38:22]: normal to this community. [0:38:22, 0:38:30]: Whether it was built here or in Clayton County or in Douglas County or Atlanta, that 151 homes could definitely support it. [0:38:31, 0:38:31]: Yeah. [0:38:32, 0:38:37]: Define normal HOAV to me. So a normal HOAV, what do you what do you expect to H O V? [0:38:41, 0:38:41]: Do what now? [0:38:43, 0:38:47]: Yeah, they they haven't figured out the exact amenity fee because it's all gonna be based on [0:38:48, 0:38:51]: He has to leave a surplus in there. Correct. [0:38:51, 0:38:54]: So when the HOA starts, they're not broke. [0:38:54, 0:39:14]: So that comes into play, but the ultimately the monthly dues will will be a factor of what we ultimately determine what the maintenance cost will be. They haven't dove into that yet because this is so early into the cost of this, basically seeing if it can get annexed and zoned and then that'd be something that they'll have to, you know, comprise and and come up with. But uh [0:39:14, 0:39:25]: Hopefully that answered that. Sounds good, Commissioner? I have a question for you, sir. Yes, sir. Who determines whether a traffic light is warranted? [0:39:26, 0:39:46]: Can I okay. So um we'll submit a traffic study, and that traffic study is gonna determine how many vehicular trips are on that road now, how many vehicular trips we're gonna create and put on that road, and that includes Amazon, UPS, your neighbor, taking the kids to daycare, taking kids to school, the school bus. So all of [0:39:46, 0:39:52]: that comes into account and that study says okay x number of people are going to go right x number of people are going to go left [0:39:53, 0:40:13]: Flipping road has an X number of people going east, X number of people going west. If that traffic count meets a certain warrant ratio with number of cars during peak hours, then we are allowed by the ITE trip generation manual to be able to facilitate putting a traffic light in. [0:40:13, 0:40:15]: Personally, I think it already meets it. [0:40:15, 0:40:17]: I'm just being honest with you. [0:40:17, 0:40:18]: But [0:40:18, 0:40:24]: When we put our intersection and it's gonna be an intersection with St. Ives, that will be a true four-way intersection. [0:40:25, 0:40:25]: Where [0:40:25, 0:40:32]: it makes sense to have something at that location that regulates the traffic, both from safety and access. So [0:40:32, 0:40:39]: It's warranted one hundred percent by the number of vehicular traffics that is generated not only by us, but currently on that road. [0:40:41, 0:40:51]: I don't think you understood my question. Okay, I'm sorry. Oh, who will determine? It'll be staff. It'll be staff based on the ITE trip generation manual and the traffic study. [0:40:52, 0:41:12]: So they'll determine if it's warranted based on their criteria set forth in the IT. Yeah, there'll be DOT. It should be it should be stopped. Yeah, it should be Henry County DOT working with the city of Stockbridge to determine what the needs and wants are. Yes, sir. That's exactly right. Yes, sir. I'm sorry. Your your entrance is it gonna line up [0:41:12, 0:41:32]: Up with St. Ives on the street. Yes, sir. Mm-hmm. Parkway style. That would be a perfect setup for traffic. It would be an ideal setup. We intentionally did that. We knew that staff would probably want us to align anyway. Jogs are very dangerous. Somebody pulls out this way, somebody pulls out that way. So I I realistically think that a lot will ultimately go there. And it may be a [0:41:32, 0:41:37]: I share your sentiments a hundred percent. I I think so too. But [0:41:38, 0:41:42]: I would hate to recommend approval to the council. [0:41:43, 0:41:50]: Yes, sure. And then the council approves it. And then somewhere down the road it's determined that a light is not warranted. [0:41:51, 0:42:11]: You could place a stipulation that said that um we're voluntary to install a light if allowed by DOT or if warranted. We're we're the ones that say we we're happy with a light. It'd be safer for our residents, it'd be better marketability for us. We would love to put it in. We're okay committing to put it in so long as the governing bodies. [0:42:11, 0:42:16]: Allow us to put it in. So if you wanted to word a zoning stipulation that's that way. [0:42:16, 0:42:19]: We'd be amenable to agreeing to a voluntary stipulation that says [0:42:20, 0:42:22]: If staff says we can put one in, we'll put one in. [0:42:30, 0:42:30]: Okay. [0:42:33, 0:42:34]: Any other questions, Commissioner? [0:42:37, 0:42:39]: Mr. Chairman. Oh go ahead and miss the min and come back. [0:42:40, 0:42:52]: Go ahead. I have two questions. So I want to go back to the rentals. So to the rentals. Uh so would the developer be willing to put into the HOA covenant to restrict rentals, leasing, Airbnb? [0:42:53, 0:42:57]: Yes, absolutely. You can volunteer skip your license for that. Yes, sir. Okay. [0:42:58, 0:43:12]: We have zero intent to make a surrender community anytime. Okay, we're good. I had a second question, it went right out of my head that fast. So it comes back to me I'll I'll follow up. Thank you. Yeah, no problem. Thank you. Ms. Davidal? [0:43:14, 0:43:20]: Uh, what type of security will you have set up to deterrent crime in your community? [0:43:21, 0:43:24]: Uh and I apologize, my hearing's so bad. What kind of [0:43:24, 0:43:44]: What kind of system you're gonna set in place to deterrent crime in the community? Yes, sir. Um so I guess in any community, um if it ain't gated, you're at the discretion of of the criminals. Um obviously this particular property doesn't lend itself for any little nooks and crannies and corners where [0:43:44, 0:43:45]: Yeah. [0:43:45, 0:43:51]: People could hide or park their vehicles. It's a loop road, two entrances in, two entrances out. [0:43:52, 0:43:52]: Yeah. [0:43:53, 0:43:53]: It is [0:43:54, 0:43:59]: fully enveloped by homes and on the interior it's encompassed by homes. So [0:44:00, 0:44:04]: The likelihood of crime in this kind of neighborhood is less than if you had a [0:44:04, 0:44:06]: Straight road that dead ended. [0:44:06, 0:44:22]: You have the opportunity for them to set up or sell drugs at this place. I I realistically feel one, being it's a new community, it's less likely, but the second thing, it provides a circular traffic about it where if the police wanted to put it on patrol, which I'm certain they will. [0:44:22, 0:44:24]: They can literally hit it and drive through it. [0:44:24, 0:44:30]: In one second and be right back out'cause it's just one loop road and they can see everything they want to see. So [0:44:31, 0:44:46]: Can you eliminate crime? No, sir. Would gain it help eliminate crime? It would help reduce it. But to answer your question, I don't know that there's really a whole lot of safeguards that any community can do to save the crime. I mean they'll be required to install plot cameras at the entryway. [0:44:47, 0:45:00]: Yeah, and whatever the requirement by the city is, we'll be a we'll be amenable to have to do it. Let me ask Ryan, the require the condition on the document you all gave us says required if gated. So is that requirement for flight cameras in general? Because the paperwork says if gated. [0:45:02, 0:45:13]: In general? Okay. Any other questions, Commissioner? I have a question. All right. Vice Chair. So this is this property will be lo located in my district. Okay. Um [0:45:15, 0:45:35]: Uh is there any gonna be any stipulations with regard to subleasing because that can kind of mitigate, you know, crime and things like that? And when you're talking about subleasing the units and the houses and whatever So once somebody I'm just being honest with you, once somebody buys their home, it's tough for me, you, the developer, builder of the city to police who [0:45:35, 0:45:41]: lives or in but there there will be a caveat that no more than whatever the city deems [0:45:41, 0:45:49]: One person can only own one house in there, or maybe you make it five percent or one per two percent. I don't know, case a mom and dad want to buy their daughter one beside'em. [0:45:49, 0:45:53]: But there's zero intent from us to have any rental at all. [0:45:53, 0:45:56]: We're going to fee simple sell everything. [0:45:56, 0:46:03]: Now ultimately five years down the road, if somebody buys Unit thirty eight and they want to lease it out to so and so [0:46:04, 0:46:09]: There's probably nothing that we could put in place other than the HOA monitoring them to stop it. [0:46:10, 0:46:18]: But if we've got a zoning stipulation that we volunteered to put on here that's not gonna be a rental community, I think the city does have the the ability to. [0:46:18, 0:46:23]: Use that device to stop any kind of activity пост девелон. [0:46:23, 0:46:43]: Okay. But yeah, there's no there's no desire to do any lease programs. These are all build to sell town homes and all. There's not gonna be any rentals. It it's gonna build and sell. That's his intent. Okay. That's the city's ten percent correct. Great. [0:46:43, 0:46:43]: [2804.4, 2807.9]: Yeah, I that's usually the cap is ten percent. So no more than [0:46:48, 0:47:08]: Fifteen units could be h owned by one entity in this project. Now, I personally think that it should be one percent, but I I you know okay, you'll probably include that in your HOA or sounds good. Yep. And and we we're amenable to putting in any device you feel comfortable and maybe that's the city's experience before to s to to make it [0:47:08, 0:47:20]: Not rental. We have zero it's it's not intended to be rental, not ever. So thank you so much, sir. Yes, sir. Um I will now close the applicant's course. Yes. Chair, may I speak before you close it? Go ahead. [0:47:20, 0:47:40]: Since the young lady asked the question, one of the uh things we do in our own neighborhood, and I'm actually in the HOA neighborhood, the homeowner is always responsible for that property, no matter what happens, whether it's fines or interruptions in the community, it all goes back to the homeowner. [0:47:40, 0:48:00]: So the homeowner has to make sure that that property is maintained the way it should because we look at the ownership first. The renter, they're not the owners. So at the end of the day, the owner has to give the renters permission to be at the pool or any amenities when they're not. [0:48:00, 0:48:03]: When it comes down to our neighborhood, HOA. [0:48:04, 0:48:22]: Thank you so much, Commissioner. Thank you so much, sir. Mr. Chairman, thank you. I'm sorry. Yes. Happens to me often. Um so if approved by city council, what's the timeline to to turn dirt on the process? To be honest with you, um i it's our intent, if approved through this process, um we would begin [0:48:22, 0:48:25]: full engineering and submit [0:48:25, 0:48:30]: As fast as the process allows us and we're we're going full [0:48:31, 0:48:47]: full blown to to the it land development process. Um I have not developed uh designed or permitted anything in the city, so I don't know if that process is two months, four months, six months, eight months, but ultimately the project itself will take eight to ten months to develop. [0:48:47, 0:48:50]: And then it'll probably be about a three year build out. [0:48:51, 0:48:51]: So [0:48:52, 0:49:11]: If from today going forward you're probably looking at a total of four and a half to five years would be my guess for a finish out of one hundred and fifty one units. And that's why we're overly confident that the seventy five connectors should be completed unless something crazy happens and it it it would help relieve any additional traffic is generated. So [0:49:12, 0:49:32]: Thank you so much. I'm gonna now close the applicants portion and I'm now going to open the joint hearings uh for these three cases. If you would like to speak in favor of the annexation case, AX 2025-01, comprehensive plan amendment case, CP-2025-01, or rezoning case RZ-2021. [0:49:32, 0:49:38]: Um, if you would like to ask questions or make comments, please come forward at this time. Anyone in affirmative? [0:49:40, 0:49:42]: Anyone in affirmative? [0:49:42, 0:49:42]: Here [0:49:47, 0:49:52]: Awesome. Please make sure you sign one of the documents when you finish and come up to the podium, state your name and address. [0:49:54, 0:49:55]: You could do it after me. [0:50:21, 0:50:25]: Hello everyone. This is my first time no, this is my second time coming. [0:50:26, 0:50:46]: And I stay in Saint Margaret's village. And as he said that he came and talked to neighbors, I didn't get no nobody didn't come to my house. Only thing I got was a letter that came to my house. And I wanna know because my property sits on 118 and the land it is [0:50:46, 0:50:51]: There's a lot of land back there. I want to know it do I have to move. [0:50:52, 0:51:12]: Or you guys gonna buy some of the property or what? I don't know. Cause this is the fr I've been staying in this county thirty years. I'm gonna ask that you direct your comments to us. Oh and then the applicant had the opportunity to answer. Okay. Oh, I didn't know. Oh, please say your name and address, please. Sonia Cook 118 Saint St. Margaret Circle. [0:51:12, 0:51:18]: Are you against or for? [0:51:18, 0:51:25]: No, I'm not saying that I'm against it because well, I don't know. I take that back. [0:51:25, 0:51:28]: Because you know what, on flipping, it's a lot of traffic. [0:51:29, 0:51:34]: We don't have no traffic lights. Traffic be bag all the way back. [0:51:34, 0:51:48]: to 42. And then if it's an accident on 75, it's tremendous. So to bring in another community from where we already got a community on the other side. [0:51:49, 0:52:07]: That's a lot of traffic. And it's been a lot of major accidents on flipping. A lot of um we have some crime on on flipping as well. So I think that um y'all should really reconsider about the um [0:52:08, 0:52:10]: A votin' against it. [0:52:11, 0:52:31]: It's too much going on on Flippin' to have another hand over park to come there. I think that and then the prices of it. I mean Saint Margaret Village do have new houses that have moved over there. They built. And they got older houses. And that would depend on. [0:52:31, 0:52:33]: Decrease our value. [0:52:34, 0:52:39]: If they come. I don't know what he said. I think you say what he said, three hundred thousand? [0:52:40, 0:52:47]: Yeah, that'll decrease our values. Cause ours now is like three eighty to almost four hundred. [0:52:48, 0:52:50]: So I'm thinking that um [0:52:50, 0:53:10]: need to be some reconsideration for the people on flipping and uh hearing county. I mean I see a lot of property is moving, building a lot of homes. I don't see no homes for people with low income. It need to be people for people that's fifty, need somewhere to stay that they can be able to afford. [0:53:11, 0:53:18]: And these this right here, these people won't be able to afford this. It need to be somewhere that's affordable for single mothers. [0:53:19, 0:53:39]: See uh seniors they need somewhere that they can be able to afford to live in Henry County. So I really impose it. If that's what you were asking me, did I oppose it? Yes, I impose it. Okay. Thank you so much. Uh so let the record reflect oppose, not an uh on the side against is there anyone else that would like to [0:53:39, 0:53:41]: Yeah. [0:53:42, 0:53:45]: Anyone else that would like to speak against this development? [0:53:46, 0:53:51]: Anyone else that would like to speak against the development in these three cases? All right. [0:53:53, 0:53:55]: With that said, I will close the public hearing. [0:53:56, 0:53:59]: Uh the board will now make a vote on these three cases. [0:54:00, 0:54:06]: First, do I have a motion regarding annexation case, AX dash 25-01? [0:54:10, 0:54:11]: It's their motion. [0:54:19, 0:54:25]: I'd like to present a motion that we uh annex the property. Um [0:54:27, 0:54:30]: S C P twenty twenty five dash C R one. [0:54:31, 0:54:36]: No, annexation case. We're gonna start on annexation. Okay, you're gonna do the annexation. [0:54:46, 0:54:54]: Publication for analyzation is still it's uh number A X dash twenty twenty five dash zero one. [0:54:55, 0:54:58]: And you were making a motion to approve, correct? Is there a second? [0:54:58, 0:54:59]: Mr. Chairman, I second. [0:55:00, 0:55:07]: All right, it's been properly uh motioned by Commissioner Tibetau and second by Mr. Mitten. All those in favor please indicate by the sound of aye. [0:55:08, 0:55:09]: Uh [0:55:10, 0:55:20]: All those in opposed? All right. Three to one. Motion carries. Second, do I have a motion regarding comprehensive plan amendment case CP-2025-01? [0:55:26, 0:55:28]: I make a motion to approve. [0:55:28, 0:55:30]: All right, there's in a motion to approve by [0:55:31, 0:55:34]: Jesus. Vice Chair? Uh is there a second? [0:55:34, 0:55:36]: Uh Harold, I'll second it. [0:55:37, 0:55:44]: All right, it was second by Commissioner Thibodeau. All those in favor, please indicate by the sign of aye. Aye. Aye. All those opposed? [0:55:47, 0:55:48]: Are those bowls? [0:55:51, 0:55:52]: Did you vote commission? [0:55:52, 0:55:55]: I did. And if in favor. [0:55:56, 0:56:02]: Commissioner Min, did you vote as well? I aye. In favor? All right. Yes. Unanimous. [0:56:02, 0:56:05]: Mr. Chairman, who was um opposed on the annexation? [0:56:05, 0:56:08]: Uh one, Dumas. Dumas. [0:56:10, 0:56:16]: All right, last motion. Do I hear a motion regarding rezoning case R Z dash twenty twenty four dash O one? [0:56:19, 0:56:21]: Oh, don't get quiet now. [0:56:22, 0:56:34]: Mr. Chairman. Yes. I'll make the motion to approve. All right, I have a motion to move by Commissioner Mitten. Is there a second? A second. Second by Vice Chair. All those in favor, please indicate by the sound of aye. Aye. Any opposed? [0:56:34, 0:56:41]: Mr Chairman, are are the is the approval to adopt the staff's conditions or do they wanna add any conditions? [0:56:44, 0:56:47]: to the conditions in regards to the rezoning case, correct? [0:56:50, 0:56:59]: So I'm okay. I'm glad you said that. Thank you. I actually uh Do you like me to restate? Yes, but I actually have two requests for you, if that's okay. Um [0:57:00, 0:57:20]: I would like to do I would like to do the approval if you all do it with the conditions, but take out when it goes down to number two. Further, if security gates are installed, flight cameras shall also be installed. Change that language to flight cameras shall be installed. Period. And this is for the rezoning. For the rezoning. [0:57:20, 0:57:20]: Okay. [0:57:21, 0:57:25]: And I would like to add a condition also that we [0:57:27, 0:57:28]: Install a traffic light. [0:57:31, 0:57:31]: That is. [0:57:32, 0:57:41]: We wanna do uh you wanna add that as a condition? Yes. Okay, so we're gonna do uh flock cameras. And Mr. Chairman speak. Yes, sir. [0:57:41, 0:57:50]: Uh we need to make sure that property is completely fenced in. I didn't hear anything about anybody saying it's fenced in. You wanna add that as a condition? Yes. Sure. [0:57:55, 0:58:07]: They already have it. All right. Um I will now accept a motion with the uh for approval with the conditions set by staff and the updated conditions uh made by this commission. [0:58:07, 0:58:16]: I make a motion to approve. Yes, ma'am. The because there was already a motion and a second made, there needs to be a motion to amend the motion. [0:58:16, 0:58:18]: And then make a new motion. [0:58:18, 0:58:19]: All right, so motion to amend. [0:58:20, 0:58:26]: I make a motion to amend. All right. I have a motion to amend the current motion by the vice chair. Is there a s uh second? [0:58:26, 0:58:27]: Second it, Harold. [0:58:27, 0:58:42]: Second, Commissioner Thibodeau. All those in favor indicate by the sign of aye. Aye. All right. Unanimous. Now I will accept the new motion. Mr. Chairman, I make the motion for RZ 202501 with three stipulations to approve. [0:58:44, 0:58:45]: I say. [0:58:45, 0:58:57]: I have a motion uh to approve the rezoning case with the conditions set by the commission and staff. Uh there is a motion by Thibodeau. Uh sorry, Commissioner Mitten. Is there a second? [0:58:57, 0:58:58]: Arrow second it. [0:59:00, 0:59:06]: There's a second by Commissioner Thibodeau. All those in favor can indicate by the sign of aye. Aye. All those opposed? [0:59:07, 0:59:08]: Unanimous. [0:59:11, 0:59:31]: Alright, the next item on tonight's agenda pertains to a subdivision development proposal for parcel zero seventy-010201 at the southwest corner of Highway 42, North and Tunis Road. The sole case for this proposal is zoning modification case ZM twenty twenty-five-01. I will read [0:59:31, 0:59:51]: The case in the record after that we'll hear presentation from staff and then we'll open it up for a public hearing. Uh zoning modification case ZM-25-01, property located in Council District 5. Consideration of a request for a major rezoning modification at the southwest corner of Highway 42, North and Tunis Row to [0:59:51, 1:00:11]: Provide for modifications to the zoning conditions comprising development agreement for rezoning case RZ-03-45-S. The purpose is to allow the development of a single-family detached residential subdivision. The property owner is Highway Henry Highway 42. The applicant is Shaker Reddy. The property is located in Land. [1:00:11, 1:00:17]: And lot thirty one and thirty two of district seven and contains twenty seven point seven more or less acres. Staff please. [1:00:18, 1:00:26]: Yes, thank you, Chair. My name is Gore Linton, senior planner for the city of Stockbridge, and I'm here to present the case for ZM twenty five dash zero one. [1:00:29, 1:00:49]: The case facts. The applicant as mentioned is Shaker Reddy. The agent is Mr. Brian Mashburn who's here in attendance. Uh the address of the property is located at the southwest corner of Highway 42 and Tunis Road. The number of acres is twenty seven point two acres. Um the [1:00:48, 1:00:55]: Parcel ID number is zero seven zero-one twenty twenty-two zero zero one. [1:00:55, 1:01:15]: The current use of the property is vacant and undeveloped, but the layout of the proof subdivision is still visible through existing clearings. Uh the site is also heavily wooded and crossed by Wolf Creek with two existing access points from US Highway 23. The current zoning of the property SR and [1:01:15, 1:01:21]: And the proposed number of acres is two point one two units per acres, and the sign was posted on June fourth, twenty twenty five. [1:01:25, 1:01:45]: So this is the aerial photo of the property with the subject property shown here in yellow and uh with the red lines. And across from it is the Eagles Landing First Baptist Church slash Eagles Landing Christian Academy. We have several neighborhoods around the area, such as Highlands, Summit, Eagle, and Eagles Landing. [1:01:47, 1:01:55]: And this is the close-up aeri photo showing the existing layout of the uh gas and crossing. As you can see, the existing layout is shown here. [1:01:57, 1:01:58]: And also here as well. [1:02:01, 1:02:04]: And this is the flood map showing Wolf Creek. [1:02:10, 1:02:20]: And this is the existing road that leads to uh one of developments which is still uh shown to uh which we either side visit. [1:02:25, 1:02:29]: And this is when we posted the signs on June fourth, twenty twenty five. [1:02:32, 1:02:33]: We posted two signs. [1:02:36, 1:02:52]: And this is the joint zoning map of the property. As as you can see it's zone SR. And the surrounding uh zonings you have OI, LI, and PUD, and you also have MFR and C1. [1:02:54, 1:03:00]: And this is the surrounded property uh property tip, surrounded zoning property information. [1:03:01, 1:03:10]: And you also have M two in heavy industrial Henry County and you also have C three heavy commercial Henry County and then you also have M one Henry County as well. [1:03:12, 1:03:14]: And this is the joint future land use map. [1:03:17, 1:03:35]: And this is the surrounding future land use destinations. Uh the property to the north is high density suburban Henry County. To the south you have high density suburban Henry County and you have low density residential and low density mixed use and high density suburban. [1:03:37, 1:03:46]: This is the surrounding land use densities map and the subject property is shown here in red. And it is consistent with the surrounded uh subdivisions in the area. [1:03:48, 1:03:50]: And this is the overlay map of the parcel. [1:03:52, 1:03:54]: So in a a Parkway Mix East Overlay District? [1:03:57, 1:04:17]: And we now dive into the zoning history of the property. So the previous applicant, um, Triad Investment LSC originally submitted a rezoning request on August eight August 18, 2003 to rezone the subject property from M1 to RM2 Multifamily Residence District, Townhouse. [1:04:17, 1:04:37]: To construct one hundred and forty townhomes, which was known as Orleans Manor at Eagles Landing. On October 9, 2003, the Henry County Municipal Planning Commission reviewed the application and rendered recommended approval, subject to thirteen conditions. However, the Stockbridge City Council tabled the case during this [1:04:37, 1:04:57]: Meeting on November 8th, 2003, due to an active moratorium on multifamily developments within the city. On December 10, 2003, the applicant submitted a revised rezoning request and site plan to rezone the subject property from M1 to RN3 single-family residents to construct 73. [1:04:57, 1:05:10]: Single-family detached lots. And on June 10th, 2004, the Stockbridge Council approved the request with 14 conditions, and a development agreement was written and adopted soon after. [1:05:10, 1:05:30]: A preliminary site plan was prepared by Paragon Consulting Group and was submitted to Henry County in June 2005 as part of the development review process. This preliminary plan proposed 65 single-family lots, two designated amending areas, a loop walking trail, seven quality funds, and a five-foot setwalk throughout. [1:05:30, 1:05:31]: Throughout the subdivision. [1:05:33, 1:05:53]: And they also had uh setbacks of 40 in the front and and rear and ten on the side. And the plan received staff approval on July seventeenth, two thousand six. So the development of this site began around two thousand six-2007. However, the global financial crisis that occurred between two thousand seven and [1:05:53, 1:06:03]: two thousand nine resulted in the foreclosure of the site and eventually um the property was purchased by Henry Highway forty two in two thousand ten. [1:06:05, 1:06:10]: So this was the proposed town home that's was submitted on August eighth, eighteenth, two thousand three. [1:06:12, 1:06:17]: And then this was the proposed subdivision submitted on December tenth, two thousand three. [1:06:19, 1:06:25]: And then these were the conditions that were approved by Mayor Council on june fourteenth, two thousand four for the rezoning. [1:06:27, 1:06:33]: And these are the approved zoning conditions in the development agreement signed on june fourteenth, two thousand four. [1:06:35, 1:06:42]: And and and and it they had the s proposed subdivision as well on june fourteenth, two thousand four. That was included. [1:06:43, 1:06:51]: And this was the site plan that was submitted by Paragon Sunc Consultant that was approved by Henry County staff in July 17th of 2006. [1:06:54, 1:07:14]: And this was the original site development in two thousand six. And then the original development was in two thousand eight. But as mentioned, the uh the foreclosure occurred and that's when the property was um foreclosed, 2010. And if you look at Google Earth, you can s as mentioned, you can still see the layout of the subdivision. [1:07:18, 1:07:38]: Uh the development information, the the site the site plan that they submitted on June 10, 2005 features two cul-de-sacks and wine streets designed to enhance traffic circulation among the residents. The side plan also includes a many lot to the northeast corner of the property that is equipped with 16 amenity parking spaces, a playground. [1:07:38, 1:07:58]: A male kiosk, a pavilion with restrooms, and a pool. The property is divided by Wolf Creek, which runs through the center of the site and is protected by both a stream buffer and floodplain area. These natural features divide the site into two main sections with 33 lots located on the western side of the creek and 26 located. [1:07:58, 1:08:18]: On the eastern side of the creek. The Lassa houses range in size from 72 to 12,000 square feet. The site plan also includes three quality ponds, which are designed to treat the stormwater runoff before it enters Will Creek. In addition, the site plan includes both drainage and utility easements, which allows for the maintenance and installation of [1:08:18, 1:08:38]: Infrastructure. Uh the the currently the property is zoned SR, which is designed for low to medium destiny neighborhoods. The side plan shows a 10-foot front yard setback, 30 in the rear and in the center half side yard setback. Two entry points are located along Highway 42, providing direct access. [1:08:38, 1:08:58]: Access to the to this to development from this major artillery road. One entrance is located in the northwest corner of the site, serving the 33 lots on the west side of Wool Creek, while the second entrance is located towards the northeast section of the site, providing access to the 26th lots that are located on the eastern side of Wool Creek. [1:08:58, 1:09:18]: entrance access points in the neighborhood's internal street network. According to the letter from the Henry County Water Authority, which was received on April 29, 2025, public water and service is available for the proposed development. However, the service provision is contingent upon the repermitting of the gas and crossing development. [1:09:19, 1:09:30]: So these are the requested changes to the development agreement. Um condition four was that one third of the single story home shall be a minimum of twenty five hundred square feet. [1:09:30, 1:09:47]: Um instead they want to change it to one third of the single story home shall be a minimum of twenty four hundred square feet, and the reason being is uh a two thousand a twenty four hundred square foot home may not fit on all lots. And on condition six, the home exteriors uh included [1:09:48, 1:09:52]: Three sided brick stone or seventy five brick stone. [1:09:53, 1:10:11]: Instead, they wanna change that to the home front of the home shall be a mixture of fifty percent brick or stone and hardy plank or cementous fiber siding with a brick or stone water table on the two sides of the home. And the reason is to be markable and compete with a similar new development site in the area. [1:10:12, 1:10:32]: Condition 10 was that the hardwood street plant hardwood street trees required throughout the development. They want to change that to shall only be required along Highway 23 slash 42. And the reason is the distance between the front exterior and the street is limited. Uh no condition number twelve was that no minimum landscape. [1:10:32, 1:10:52]: Strip with between the sidewalk and the curb specific specified. Instead, the landscape strip between the curb and the four-foot sidewalk shall be minimum of 24 inches along all public streets. And the reason being is the amount of space is needed for the utilities. Condition number 14: Council approval required for all. [1:10:52, 1:11:03]: Home plans they want to change that to home plan approval shall be issued by the director of community planning or other staff prior to the issuance of approval of final plat. [1:11:03, 1:11:23]: And that's basically for to streamline the approval and allow administrative level review. And finally to condition number twenty, which is two amenity areas with extensive requirements, trail, pavilion, bathhouse, divided playground, pools, grills, trash parking. And said they want to have one amenity lodge that includes a pool, cabana, playground. [1:11:23, 1:11:30]: and parking lot. And that's to further clarify the development agreement's vague description of the development amenities package. [1:11:34, 1:11:40]: So we also reviewed the side plan uh comparison we reviewed uh t between two thousand five and twenty twenty five. [1:11:46, 1:11:55]: And this is the site plan shown here. Uh over here, it has the amenity slot, and it has 16 amenity parking spaces. [1:11:56, 1:12:05]: And a male kiosk centralized kiosk is located here where my cursor is. And they also have open space and the menu lot. [1:12:07, 1:12:27]: And this is the comparison analysis uh with the site plans. Uh they went from 65 to 59. Uh the track one or North Creek is they're both twenty-nine, and the south of Wool Creek was uh 2005 was 36, now it's twenty twenty-nine. Uh the minimum lot size went from ten thousand square feet. [1:12:27, 1:12:47]: To a mixture of 10,005 square feet, and some exceeding 40,000 square feet. And these are the setbacks. They the setbacks did change a bit. They had the same entrances, the sidewalks, 5'7 walks throughout. As far as our walking trail, they did. [1:12:47, 1:12:53]: Did have a walking trail in two thousand and five. Um they're open to keeping the walking trail. [1:12:55, 1:13:01]: And they also included a mail kiosk which was not included in the two thousand five site plan, um, but is it is in here. [1:13:03, 1:13:08]: And the renderings, these are the renderings and they wanna build it similar to the Wine Creek development. [1:13:13, 1:13:17]: This is the clubhouse. This is c the male kiosk and this is the clubhouse. [1:13:20, 1:13:40]: Um staff analysis. The request to up the as far as the reasonableness of the applicant's request, the request to update the original development agreement for gasoline crossing is w reasonable because the plan is over twenty years old and no homes were ever built due to the thousand eight crisis crisis financial crisis. The changes reflect upon modern [1:13:40, 1:14:00]: Houses trends like slightly smaller home sizes, new exterior materials, and updated lands landscaping. The updates don't change the overall plan but add clarity and new features like a male kiosk. Suitability for the proposed development. The revised site plan and changes are a good fit for the SR zoning district, reducing the home size from 25%. [1:13:59, 1:14:19]: To 2400 square feet for some home matches nearby neighborhoods, landscaping updates such as limiting street trees to Highway 42 and adding a 24-inch utility street with improved safety and access. And the new plan also adds a pool, pavilion, playground, restrooms, and a male kiosk. And these updates [1:14:19, 1:14:39]: Help move the project forward while keeping a strong design. As far as the effects on the surrounding properties and infrastructure, the proposed changes are not expected to harm nearby properties or city infrastructure. The site is surrounded by a mixture of industrial, commercial, church, school, and residential uses. Two entry points. [1:14:39, 1:14:43]: One two entrances on Highway forty two were served to development [1:14:44, 1:14:50]: Uh which had a traffic count of three fifteen hundred, three hundred vehicles per day uh in twenty twenty three. [1:14:53, 1:15:03]: And stormwater will be handled by quality pods and the developer is open to including the walking trail, as mentioned. And the density, as mentioned, is balanced with your surrounding subdivisions. [1:15:04, 1:15:15]: And staff recommends approval um with conditions. Um one third of the one story home should have a minimum of twenty four hundred square feet of the heated space rather than originally [1:15:16, 1:15:30]: Required 2500 square feet. The front elevation of all homes shall include shall consist of a mixture of 50% brick or stone and hardy plank or cementous siding with a brick or stone water table along both sides of the home. [1:15:31, 1:15:51]: Three, Hardwood Street Street shall be required only along Highway forty two. Four, a minimum twenty four inch Nancy script shall be maintained between the back of the curb and the four foot sidewalk along all public streets. Five, one designated amenities include a swimming pool, cabana or covered pavilion for. [1:15:51, 1:16:11]: Playground parking area. Six, a centralized mailbox makes sure it serves the entire development. Seven, the developers shall comply with all other requirements of the approved zoning case, RZ 345-S, including the original development agreement adopted on June 14, 2004. [1:16:11, 1:16:31]: four. Eight. Flock safety cameras shall be installed at each entrance of the subdivision. Nine. Attain foot sidewalk shall be installed along the highway forty two frontage of the subject property, and ten. The subject property shall be developed in substantial conformance with the revised site plan's title Gatson Subdivision Site Plan report. [1:16:31, 1:16:35]: Prepared by Acura Engineer and dated ju tenth, twenty twenty five. [1:16:36, 1:16:37]: And that concludes my presentation. [1:16:38, 1:16:40]: Thank you, Gordon. Are there any questions for staff on the board? [1:16:42, 1:16:54]: Yes, I have a question. Excuse me. There is railroad tracks behind that property. Uh what what are we planning on doing this for? Is uh some type of sound barrier? [1:16:55, 1:17:01]: Oh, that's something to be considered. Uh I'm just putting it out there to see if we have anything related to that. [1:17:03, 1:17:07]: Let me let me confirm with staff on that we have a a quiet zone in the city, correct? [1:17:08, 1:17:28]: It's just for downtown only though. Oh uh the applicant will ha will we'll have to address Mr. Thibodeau's question as far as the sound barrier, but there are no requirements uh in the code for a sound barrier. Uh but the quiet zone is just downtown. Gotcha. Um I'll let the applicant ask that. Um commissioner. [1:17:28, 1:17:35]: Thank you. Any other questions for staff? All right. Is the applicant present? Is the applicant present? [1:17:36, 1:17:38]: Please come up and say your name and address for us, please. [1:17:41, 1:17:43]: David. [1:17:45, 1:17:51]: My name is Brian Marshburn and uh doing this on behalf of Shaker Ready. Uh [1:17:52, 1:17:54]: Thank you. That's a bit better. [1:17:55, 1:18:15]: Uh Gordon, thank you for such a great presentation. I think Gordon hit all the highlights. I'm not gonna really review what he just went over in quite detail. Um basically the neighborhood was developed, it failed. Um it was purchased by Shakerady and a group of investors. [1:18:15, 1:18:20]: Um he's held it for a while. [1:18:20, 1:18:23]: We intend to redevelop the property. Um [1:18:23, 1:18:25]: Basically the [1:18:26, 1:18:28]: The current entitlements are already there. [1:18:28, 1:18:48]: We're only amending or modifying the zoning that's in place. So, really, the requests that we have in this list are modifications to the existing development agreement that was approved in 2004. So I'm not really I'm really making it better, to be honest with you. Uh our our request is to reduce the number of locks. [1:18:48, 1:18:56]: Lots because the lots that were previously uh proposed with the Gadsons Crawlson site plan that was prepared. [1:18:57, 1:18:58]: [4739.2, 4759.2]: Some of those lots aren't even buildable. Uh they're quite small. And um the reason for the request for the drop down from 2500 square feet to 2400 square feet is math. Six times four is twenty-four. It's a sixty by forty ranch style home. [1:19:19, 1:19:33]: won't fit easily on a sixty foot lot with seven and a half or ten foot setbacks on either side. Therefore, we asked for a slight reduction from a twenty five hundred square foot to twenty four hundred square foot to fit on some of the larger lots. Um [1:19:34, 1:19:36]: Uh the flock camera we're [1:19:36, 1:19:56]: Okay with that. That's something new and new technology. That's great. Uh the only thing that I would ask for for some grace from the staff recommendations would be for the ten foot wide sidewalk along Highway 41. And there is uh proposed, no, it's not proposed, it's already in the budget, the widening of Highway 42, uh, which will occur. [1:19:56, 1:19:59]: [4799.4, 4811.7]: And we were more than happy to prepare the sidewalks all the way up to Highway Forty Two. But right now there's nowhere for them to connect to. So essentially it'll be a ten foot sidewalk to nowhere. [1:20:11, 1:20:16]: Um we're happy to you know work by putting in some uh crossing [1:20:16, 1:20:23]: information to get from one side of the highway to the other because we do anticipate people walking from this community over to Eagles Annie Baptist Church. [1:20:24, 1:20:25]: Oh [1:20:26, 1:20:29]: That's all I have. I'm happy to answer your questions. [1:20:30, 1:20:35]: You refuse to put in a um ten foot sidewalk you would have problems. [1:20:36, 1:20:39]: Have problems at council? Yeah, there's a [1:20:40, 1:20:53]: railway master plan and they're requiring all uh new developments to have a ten foot wide sidewalk along the frontage. Even if even if it appears to go nowhere, the the theory is that somebody else would will one day develop something that would eventually connect. [1:20:54, 1:20:57]: Could we make it smaller, like a five foot wide sidewalk? [1:20:59, 1:21:05]: Okay. For so so as long as so long as I do it on the subject property. For for the subject property. [1:21:09, 1:21:09]: Okay. [1:21:12, 1:21:17]: It it just it doesn't connect to anywhere on the north side. It's a recycling facility. [1:21:20, 1:21:21]: So be it. [1:21:27, 1:21:28]: I I will [1:21:29, 1:21:40]: Okay. I d I just it doesn't I mean it's just sometimes I wonder who put these uh sidewalks to nowhere programs in place. Maybe it was a concrete lobbyist. [1:21:42, 1:21:43]: That's a funny joke, sorry. [1:21:43, 1:21:45]: Any other questions from the board for the applicant? [1:21:47, 1:21:59]: Uh yes, I didn't get any response. Uh well I didn't ask the question. What about uh railroad tracks in the rear as was uh some type of sound barrier? Do you have anything set up for that? [1:21:59, 1:22:00]: I do not. [1:22:02, 1:22:07]: Uh that's something I would consider because you know there's a train that passed in the rear of the property. [1:22:08, 1:22:20]: On Winding Creek subdivision, which is the long Campground Road on both sides of Campground Road, there's a whole nother subdivision that was just built on the north side of Campground Road. There's no sound barrier there, nor is there one on camp on uh [1:22:21, 1:22:24]: Uh Winding Creek, nor is there one on Eagles Landing. [1:22:26, 1:22:46]: There's a large berm that separates the two neighborhoods. So there's a berm that goes up to Eagles Landing, there's a berm that goes up to this subject property, and the railroad is in a valley that goes down through there. Um to be quite frank, the real really bottom line of us continuing to pursue a residential development here is the [1:22:46, 1:23:06]: The city uh staff about five, six years ago, long before COVID, is how long I've been working with this property, uh, did not want to see us revert the zoning back to industrial. We did have a lumber yard that wanted to go here. So uh therefore we're trying to make the property marketable and [1:23:06, 1:23:11]: And we kindly request these slight modifications to the existing zoning. [1:23:13, 1:23:20]: But, you know, I understand your your thought process with the sound barrier, but that's a pretty significant improvement. [1:23:21, 1:23:31]: It is, but it's something to consider as we move forward in in the future uh as far as billing homes and having people come in and uh [1:23:32, 1:23:50]: set up shop, but at the same time sometimes people come in and they find out that, hey, I didn't know the train was passing back there. You know, of course that's not something you're probably gonna be telling individuals when they move in. That's just something I'm saying to consider, if nothing else. Understand. [1:23:51, 1:23:52]: Thank you, Commissioner May. [1:23:53, 1:24:09]: Commission? Yes, I have a few questions. Um so HOA. Plans for an HOA? Yes. Okay. And in the covenant of the HOA, understand the city has a cap of ten percent on rentals leases with the Yeah, fee simple sold properties. Okay. Um [1:24:10, 1:24:24]: Any community engagement? I know that this is kind of a longgoing thing, but now that it's kind of reinvigorated some life into it, um letters gone out to the community, surrounding communities, uh community forum, speak with the local residents. [1:24:24, 1:24:44]: Uh we you know, we had a community forum meeting uh several weeks ago. I was here to present. Uh unfortunately we sent the letters and I don't think anyone appeared. Okay. So Okay. Um the the pro project kind of ice is kind of an island really. Um [1:24:44, 1:25:04]: You you don't have any residential right there. Uh there is residential diagonal across the street. Um, but I think this subdivision would be somewhat uniform to what's already there across the street. Okay. I I was questioning because it looked like there might have been residences to the west. Um it would basically butt up [1:25:04, 1:25:11]: to the to the there's there's there's a good bit of distance between there. I mean they're not gonna go walking through there. There's a railroad track. [1:25:13, 1:25:26]: Uh one last question. So um assuming that it it moved forward and went through city council approval, timelines for uh actually turning of dirt starting. Sure. Um the land disturbance permits expired. [1:25:26, 1:25:46]: So therefore the developer, Shaker, would have to uh resubmit development plans to be and the the previous plan that was approved, the old site plan, the lots are too narrow. So all of that gets changed. I mean, in the eyes of the city, all that would be a new submittable. [1:25:46, 1:25:52]: So that you're probably talking I don't I don't foresee it happening until March. [1:25:53, 1:25:55]: Twenty six. Twenty six. Okay. [1:25:57, 1:26:17]: Right. No further questions. Thank you. Thank you. Let me ask a quick question. Is the subdivision split because of the creek? Yes. So is there is there an entrance on both sides? Yes. Okay. So Yeah, and the reason that we request to reduce the the two amenities packages is it there's in the old development agreement it was really vague and it just said [1:26:17, 1:26:37]: Um an amenities package shall s serve each section. So I as we talked with uh Ryan, the development director here, it just seems like it would be a burden for a small neighborhood like that to have to support two amenities packages. So instead of having two pools and two clubhouses and [1:26:37, 1:26:57]: Well I think the package never really required a pool. You could have done because I saw you we have on here a pool, a park, right? All in one section. You could have split up park on this side, pool on this. [1:26:57, 1:27:17]: laid out um why the the amenities are all on the right side of the of the uh entire development, whether it's split or not. And then you have your uh your mailboxes if you're gonna do centralized mailboxes all the time. I know I I thought about that. I mean it was an afterthought during the meeting, but we're we would be willing to move uh I mean [1:27:16, 1:27:23]: I mean, a kiosk for a mailbox isn't that expensive. So we could put another kiosk over on the other side. Absolutely. Great. [1:27:23, 1:27:30]: Yeah. So I could we could put another set over by the pool. Okay. Yeah. That's fine. I I [1:27:30, 1:27:33]: Now would you all also be okay with Go ahead. [1:27:34, 1:27:53]: Uh possibly keeping the pool on the right side, but putting the playground on the opposite side? If there were room, so the the north side of the first slot when you pull in the neighborhood is uh misdrawn. So I could put a playground there. Gotcha. I mean it's not me doing it, just put it on the drawing. So yeah. Any other questions from the board? [1:27:54, 1:27:58]: But I I mean I prefer to keep it all in together if it's possible. I mean it [1:28:00, 1:28:01]: Any other questions from the board? [1:28:02, 1:28:20]: All right. Thank you, sir. Thank you. I'm gonna now open this up uh for a public hearing. Is there anyone here to speak in favor of this mo uh this case? Anyone to speak in favor? Hearing none, anyone here to speak against this case? Anyone here to speak against this case? [1:28:21, 1:28:24]: Yes, sir. Please make come up to the podium, state your name and address. [1:28:28, 1:28:29]: Make sure you come to the mic for me. [1:28:32, 1:28:43]: It looks it looks like it's a good project. Say your name and address. Uh Clay Henderson, uh seven oh two Summerbrook Court. I'm immediately across the railroad tracks from this this development. [1:28:43, 1:29:03]: And uh just had some some questions. Uh and the uh the biggest thing I think for me is uh security concern. Um we have industrial behind us across the track, and we have well I guess it's it's really some form of industrial all the way down. And [1:29:03, 1:29:10]: The old road, if you look at the m the map on the if you're facing the project on forty-two on the right side, that old road. [1:29:10, 1:29:19]: passage l used to cross the railroad track there. That used to be the crossing and it comes into my backyard. So there is um [1:29:20, 1:29:30]: arise of some sort, but my concern is having people in that community. You know, sidewalks are so important because of people walking. I get that. [1:29:30, 1:29:37]: I'm concerned about'em walking down the track and then that if now not to assume that anybody's evil minded. [1:29:38, 1:29:41]: But that once you cross that railroad track. [1:29:41, 1:29:42]: That is a very tempting area. [1:29:43, 1:29:55]: You know, and I've just that's a that's a concern for me. And I I agree with Mr. Thibodeau, I think we oughta have a a buffer wall about thirteen, fourteen feet high where nobody can cross it. [1:29:55, 1:29:57]: I say that lightheartedly, but I [1:29:57, 1:29:59]: Сірслі, а до концер. [1:30:00, 1:30:20]: about the back access of that property into our community there because it is an easy access. You know, right, we've got children that play right there and and um they're very expensive homes. You know, the the home um immediately um to the right of me just sold last year from [1:30:19, 1:30:35]: million three and that's you know I just think it's a I don't want to say targeting and not that anybody would but I think maybe having some um it's always a concern with the number of renters potentially and uh they don't take care of um [1:30:35, 1:30:55]: I don't want to say they don't take care of they don't have the same mindset as a homeowner, you know, there in the neighborhood. So um that was just one one one thought, just uh to consider some sort of uh and I don't want to raise any any additional cost for them, but I I just a thought for safety or you know security on the [1:30:55, 1:31:15]: Backside where that track is between there and the neighborhood. Um, and then um we I think you mentioned rentals, um, maybe capping that at 10% or something like that. Um, that would be fun. And um so the the revision from one-third of the of the homes from 2500 feet. [1:31:15, 1:31:29]: to 2400 feet. What about I never did see anything and I may have just missed this. What about the other two thirds? I mean is that a minimum throughout the entire community? Uh I never saw a reference that addressed the other two thirds. [1:31:33, 1:31:34]: Yeah. [1:31:45, 1:32:03]: Just the map that won't fit on the setbacks on the plot. Okay. Some of these lots that get at put together, they went they were screwy to be honest with you. They were like a foot wide. And I don't know what they were thinking, but they just put as many numbered units of on the plat as they possibly can get in there. Right. And and [1:32:08, 1:32:28]: So I I guess my question, and I'll rephrase it, is the minimum square footage of twenty four hundred, is that overall?'Cause it was only mentioned as to be two thirds of the property of the properties would be a minimum of twenty four hundred. Uh my my my question is there's still another a remaining two third that I don't know [1:32:28, 1:32:34]: You know, for that lance. So I guess that was my question. [1:32:34, 1:32:37]: So that's a minimum throughout. Okay. [1:32:37, 1:32:40]: So that's really my only my only question was just the the [1:32:41, 1:33:01]: to to consider something and I don't know what that resolution is, but just some something along that road track just as a a protective buffer between both communities, you know. So I mean these people wanna have some safety coming and going both ways, I think. So thank you. Yes sir. Thank you. As you leave, could you please fill out that form there and hand it over to staff. [1:33:01, 1:33:07]: Uh is there anyone else that would like to speak against in this case? All right, I'm gonna close the public hearing. [1:33:10, 1:33:29]: Mr. Chairman. Yes, sir. I just want to clarify a statement that was made. So my my request to the developer was I understand the city's cap on rentals is ten percent. I was asking for an HOA uh amendment in the covenant that would actually restrict rentals. If the uh applicant would be [1:33:30, 1:33:35]: Uh okay with that. Is the applicant okay with that? Okay. Um I'm gonna [1:33:35, 1:33:52]: Okay. Uh I do all right. We've closed the public hearing, so now the board will now take a vote. Uh I know we have some staff recommendations and so I actually have some questions on that for the s for the board. Um I definitely wanna make sure [1:33:54, 1:34:01]: Item number three, hardwood street trees uh shall be required only along the highway. Is that the current trees there? [1:34:06, 1:34:07]: Okay. Um [1:34:11, 1:34:30]: So I'd actually like for the board to probably reconsider that to actually have hardwood trees throughout the entire development, just to have some environmental justice and some environment and friendly opportunities there. Um uh number six, the applicant has already agreed to add a centralized mailbox on both sides since the development is split. [1:34:32, 1:34:44]: And then we already talked about the ten foot ten foot wide sidewalk, which is really non negotiable on our side as that's our comprehensive plan. But at this time I'll make a mo I'll accept a motion in regards to the zoning modification case. [1:34:44, 1:35:02]: I have one more question to ask. You know, I noticed we never say anything about uh pissing the property in. You're right. I was just about to say that. Yeah. It's right here too. You know, I mean uh he's talking security. I'm looking at security too. Uh we need to create some form of uh [1:35:03, 1:35:06]: divide against any uh [1:35:06, 1:35:15]: Elements that shouldn't be there. Let me just say that. And to come in the front with the flyer camera, that's one thing. But we got the rear and we got the sides. [1:35:18, 1:35:36]: So I will ac I'll accept or if you would like to add that as a a condition to add um fenced in the backing and the sides of the development. Yes, sir. Uh is there any more discussion in regards to it? I'll now accept a motion. Uh you want me to reread it? [1:35:36, 1:35:38]: Okay. [1:35:38, 1:35:42]: Well we don't have'em. Can I can I face it on those? [1:35:43, 1:35:45]: I don't know, attorney, can he say something now that we're voting? [1:35:47, 1:35:53]: Uh the applicant is asking I know we're now in the discussion of voting. Can the applicant come back since I closed the hearing? [1:36:03, 1:36:05]: I'll allow it. Come on up. [1:36:09, 1:36:29]: Thank you. So the property, the topography of the property, it goes up on the uh call it the south side of the property where the uh that's fluid drive. There's uh industrial building back there. There's actually two industrial buildings back there and a vacant industrial lot that fronts on to 42. [1:36:29, 1:36:34]: There's a school there and in front of there there's a commercial lot and it goes down. [1:36:34, 1:36:37]: And then on the north side it goes back up. [1:36:37, 1:36:56]: And along the back of the property there's a berm. So my proposal would be, if it you're okay with this, would be to put a install a fence along the back of the property and come up maybe say fifty feet into the back corners of the uh back corner lots to go all the way across the flat the [1:36:57, 1:37:00]: The railroad tracks and then back up. And then if uh [1:37:01, 1:37:06]: the residents wanted to enfence the rest of the neighborhood or the HOA wanted to do that, they could do that on their own. [1:37:08, 1:37:08]: Okay, G. [1:37:09, 1:37:13]: That then that would you would have this barrier that you couldn't just go walk across the railroad tracks there. [1:37:14, 1:37:18]: Oh, I would ask the uh homeowner that lives back there, how does he feel about that? [1:37:20, 1:37:21]: In the rear. [1:37:21, 1:37:22]: No more interview. [1:37:23, 1:37:24]: Thumbs up or damn. [1:37:26, 1:37:26]: Yeah. [1:37:27, 1:37:45]: 'Cause none of the other neighborhoods that uh join this railroad track have a fence. So Okay. Thank you so much, sir. Thank you. Uh I mean you can if you can make that suggestion. I mean, whether city council is up to not, you can put a condition on there to require a fence along the would you like to move forward with your condition? [1:37:45, 1:37:57]: Yes, I I'd like to have that condition, but also what he said, then uh if we need to have the HOA uh put the rest of it up, that would be a condition also if needed. [1:37:58, 1:38:11]: So would you like your condition to be the first one you said, which is um fencing it in around the sides and the back, or what the applicant just suggested, which would be a fifty foot um fence around the back of the railroad in the HOA? [1:38:11, 1:38:22]: I would go with the applicant and then uh also uh put some requirements through the HOA if they haven't one that they can finish the rest of it. [1:38:24, 1:38:44]: I think that's fair. Gotcha. Do you want me to read those back in for you? You would have to um I don't think you can put stipulation on the HOA. You would have to put that that um those conditions on the developer. He would have he would have to install that fence during the construction phase. Well we can go with what he said, but at the end of the day he would have control over the HOA. [1:38:44, 1:38:53]: yet because their votes would would trump anybody else while they building the homes anyway. So he still could put up the fence uh through the HOA. [1:38:55, 1:38:55]: [5935.6, 5937.4]: [1:38:58, 1:39:18]: We'll do it the way the applicant s uh wrote how we wrote it out. I'm gonna read them back to staff so that y'all can have the conditions amended by the um by the commission. Uh the first one stays the same, the second one stays the same, the third one would be hardwood street trees to go throughout the entire development, not just along the highway. Uh the fourth and fifth stay the same. [1:39:18, 1:39:36]: Number six is two mailboxes on each side of uh the development. Seven, eight, nine, and ten stays the same. We want to add a condition, which would be number eleven, which will be for the development to install a fence, a fifty foot fence around the back, around the railroad portion of the development. [1:39:38, 1:39:39]: And the HOA will decide the rest. [1:39:47, 1:39:52]: I was going to say that we we've closed public hearing. Um but [1:39:54, 1:39:56]: Are we good, Steph? [1:39:59, 1:39:59]: We get [1:40:05, 1:40:25]: Sorry. Um so we have just just three. Number three, uh hardwood trees throughout the entire development, not just on highway forty two. Number six, which is two centralized mailbox banks, not not one, one on each side of development, and then uh adding a a condition which [1:40:25, 1:40:45]: Which is number eleven, will be number eleven, which is which is to install a fifty foot fence uh to block the railroad in the back of the development. Ms. Chairman. Yes, sir. Unless I heard incorrectly, I don't think that's what he said. Is that not what he said? [1:40:45, 1:40:54]: Fifty feet on the sides. So it's up fifty feet on the sides. Okay, let me correct that. Eleven is install a fence on the back and go up fifty feet on the sides. [1:40:55, 1:40:57]: Thank you for that. Sure. [1:41:01, 1:41:18]: Commissioners, I will now accept a motion. Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman, I make the motion that we approve ZM twenty twenty-five-01 with staff conditions including changes and uh condition number eleven for security fencing. [1:41:18, 1:41:26]: All right, I have a motion to approve the rezoning modification case with staff and commission recommendations conditions. Taking it, Harold. [1:41:26, 1:41:35]: All right, so motion by uh Commissioner Mitten, a second by Commissioner Tibbetal. All those in favor indicate by the sound of aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? So moved. [1:41:37, 1:41:41]: The next item on tonight's agenda is project updates. Ryan, do we have any project updates? [1:41:41, 1:42:00]: No project updates. Any staff updates? Well uh we'll be uh coming up with RFP to uh update some things in the UDC uh within a couple of weeks. So that's one project that'll be ongoing. UDC updates. Okay. Looking forward to that. Uh any staff comments? [1:42:00, 1:42:07]: Yes, I would like to uh introduce our new staff person, chief planner. She's from Houston, Texas. Her name is Miss Veronica Green. [1:42:07, 1:42:10]: Welcome to the team, Ms. Green. [1:42:10, 1:42:30]: Looking forward to what you can do for us. Next item on the agenda is board comments. Do I have any board comments? I have a few. Um, first, I want to thank our staff for a successful half-year mark. We're making a lot of progress on this commission with you all. Um, secondly, I want to wish a happy birthday to our vice chair. [1:42:30, 1:42:50]: And thank you for your willingness to serve on your birthday. So happy birthday to you. Um and then third, Ryan and I and Ms. Zenovia worked hard to get this commission finally some t-shirts or some polos for the commission. So if you can at the end of the meeting after adjournment, go see Gordon to pick up your shirt. Um at this time it is now 8:13, and I'll accept a motion. [1:42:50, 1:42:51]: Motion to adjourn. [1:42:52, 1:43:03]: Mr. Chairman, I move with join the meeting. All right, it's motion. Uh second, Harrell. Motion by Mr. Doomas, second by Ms. Thibodeau. All those in favor indicate by the sound of aye. Aye. All right. So moved. Have a good night, everyone.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2025-06-25 source: 2025-06-25_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:01:56, 0:02:04]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have 604, so I'd like to call our council work session June twenty-fifth to order. [0:02:05, 0:02:25]: Please of Stockbridge. We pray, Lord God, for every resident. We pray for all of our citizens, our constituents. We pray, Lord God, for the safety. We pray, Lord God, for their well-being. Now, Lord God, we actually bless this council, bless the staff of this city, and allow us, Lord God, to come together, Lord God, with the best resources and the best ideas possible so that Stockbridge could be the best place in the world. [0:02:25, 0:02:45]: the world. This is our prayer in the matchless name of your son Jesus Christ we pray. Let us all say Amen. Amen. Pledge allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:02:45, 0:02:47]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:02:49, 0:03:00]: Good afternoon. Afternoon. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Let the record reflect Mayor Pro Tem Gantt is not in attendance. Council Member Thomas. [0:03:00, 0:03:14]: Let the record replay. Councilmember Thomas is not in attendance. Councilmember Bear. Present. Council Member Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. Present. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Council I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:03:14, 0:03:34]: So move. Is there a second? Second. Okay, Mr. Alexander. Mr. Barrett all in favor, please indicate. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Public comments. All persons wishing to speak on public comment must sign in on the city of Stockbridge or sign in with the city clerk prior to the beginning of the meeting. You must sign your name, address, phone number, and be able to address address the mayor and council for three minutes. [0:03:34, 0:03:53]: The accused speakers must respect all members of the elected body, officials, staff, definition, unruliness, and swearing will not be tolerated while meetings are in session. Madam Clerk, we have um individuals who want to give uh public comments. Okay, thank you. [0:03:59, 0:04:00]: Your name and address, please. [0:04:04, 0:04:24]: Mr. Turner, two five four warblerway, stop bridge. Again, this is not personal, this is business. Um at the end end of the meeting on june ninth, mister Harold Young's contract was terminated for breach of contract. The breach was not disclosed. How was Mr. Young's contract breached? What did he do? [0:04:24, 0:04:34]: And what did he not do? There were several individual companies who stated they worked with mister Young. What is the status of their contracts with the city of Stockbridge in the amphitheater? [0:04:36, 0:04:56]: Who authorized the payments to Harold Young for 2022, 23, 24, and 25? There are pending open record requests for amphitheater records. Who is filing those requests? I mean who is filling those requests and who determines what is redacted? The information presented at the City Council meeting last week regarding [0:04:56, 0:04:59]: [300.0, 320.0]: It said that the premiums increased more than two hundred thousand dollars, but it was not explained. Why does the city why doesn't the city know how many vehicles were purchased? Who is responsible for knowing what taxpayers money has purchased? How do we know if everything purchased with the taxpayer money is being accounted for? What is going on with the money? [0:05:20, 0:05:33]: with the management of the city and where is the oversight? Through public records, we know that the amphitheater went over budget for twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four. What other departments went over budget? [0:05:35, 0:05:55]: For these same years. Is this why the millage rates was assessed? To make up for overspending for these concerts, is this what you all consider to be good stewards of citizens' money? There needs to be accountability here. Over the years, Councilwoman Barber has pleaded with the council to provide [0:05:55, 0:06:05]: Provide financial reports and a forensic audit and her requests have been ignored. Go back and watch the tapes as I did, and the council instead censored her for speaking up and speaking out. [0:06:10, 0:06:30]: A council member made a post on NextDare app about a previous show being sold out. What does sold out mean? If taxpayers are paying vendors a hundred percent service fee fee, that includes parking artist fee, where does the money from ticket sales and parking go? Does the money from ticket sales offset the daily overhead? If we pay the vendor L Parks 100%, [0:06:30, 0:06:50]: percent vendor's fee for parking, then where does the money go for the guests who pay for parking? Does the money from ticket sales and parking sales go to the City of Stockbridge general fund account? Who oversees the end-of-day breakdown for the expenses and sales for each event at the amphitheater? There was a show postponed due to weather. I do remember [0:06:50, 0:07:04]: Recall Councilmember Barber asking that there be a clause written in the contract that states artists should not be paid a hundred percent for a rain delay or an act of God. Are we paying these artists a hundred percent again? Was this money in the budget? [0:07:06, 0:07:10]: Wanna ask the council for more time? I'll ask the council, sir. Council, you wanna give him more time? [0:07:14, 0:07:25]: Yes, yes. So it's guess I'm consistent. I just three minutes is the room, that's my consistency. Okay. All right. No, sir. I don't have three votes. Thank you. Thank you. [0:07:26, 0:07:28]: All right, uh who's next? [0:07:43, 0:07:43]: Okay. [0:07:47, 0:07:55]: Hi, Connie Snow, four twenty six Chase Marion Way. I'd like to give Paul Turner the rest of my time to complete his comment. Thank you. [0:07:56, 0:08:03]: Ma'am, you have three minutes. You're not gonna be able to transfer to the other. [0:08:03, 0:08:11]: I don't recall that at all. Now I'll tell you what I will do. Pratturney. You have any you have any legal guidance on that? [0:08:20, 0:08:22]: Excuse me? Just a moment. Thank you. [0:08:30, 0:08:34]: We have that's the rule that we're following, we're consistent. That's the rule. [0:08:38, 0:08:41]: [521.2, 522.3]: Uh understand? [0:09:11, 0:09:29]: Council does not currently have a policy in place regarding um uh whether a public commenter can give their time to another person.'Cause what I just read, it says ever everybody be able to address the mayor of council for three minutes. So it doesn't so all right. We've been consistent. [0:09:29, 0:09:35]: I'm actually gonna wave my comment at this moment. Okay, thank you. All right. Who's next? [0:09:46, 0:09:46]: Okay. [0:10:00, 0:10:01]: Name and address, please. [0:10:03, 0:10:14]: My name is Mary Indie Calhoun, 608 Creekstone Court, Jonesboro, Stockbridge, Georgia, 30281. [0:10:15, 0:10:35]: I am before this board to talk about an issue that is plaguing our communities, especially in Stockbridge, this issue of homelessness and homeless needs. I have been developing a comprehensive operating procedure for homeless based on the principles of Narcotics Anonymous. [0:10:35, 0:10:48]: Sex offender anonymous as well as alcohol anonymous. I plan to establish it in an H I I plan to establish a homeless anonymous program [0:10:50, 0:11:00]: In Florida I participated in a group project aimed at improving the t tracking of sex offenders while also providing them with support groups to discuss their behavior. [0:11:00, 0:11:05]: This enabled probation officers to exercise more effective supervision and monitoring. [0:11:06, 0:11:09]: My primary objective with homelessness was [0:11:09, 0:11:11]: The Homeless Anonymous program [0:11:12, 0:11:14]: is to enhance the track enhance the tracking [0:11:15, 0:11:16]: of this population. [0:11:16, 0:11:19]: Conduct a thorough needs assessment. [0:11:19, 0:11:22]: and provide sustainable solutions. [0:11:23, 0:11:25]: You will you will be impressed by [0:11:25, 0:11:28]: та потенціал сформи ресурси. [0:11:28, 0:11:34]: allocated toward the underserved population, focusing on providing a hand up [0:11:34, 0:11:36]: rather than a repetitive handout. [0:11:37, 0:11:40]: It is essential that we adopt innovative appro [0:11:40, 0:11:44]: Approaches to assist those without a support system. [0:11:44, 0:11:47]: or a clear plan for a better life. [0:11:47, 0:11:52]: We must become proactive when dealing with this group of growing population. [0:11:52, 0:11:53]: If we don't [0:11:53, 0:11:57]: it will affect us f affect our crime rate negatively. [0:11:58, 0:12:01]: This is one of my initiatives. [0:12:03, 0:12:08]: Elected officials in Hearing County refuse to work with me because I am so outspoken about them. [0:12:09, 0:12:11]: I'm a very smart and resourceful person. [0:12:12, 0:12:16]: with many great ideas to assist my c community based on needs assessed. [0:12:17, 0:12:26]: But I refuse to be labeled by you all as someone who is crazy or mental or whatever names you wanna call me that day. [0:12:26, 0:12:29]: Because I consistently expose [0:12:30, 0:12:35]: Things that are corrupt, abuse of power, and self serving purposes people who hold office. [0:12:36, 0:12:42]: The amount of money this council wasted on the amphitheater could have been used to have a program in place for the group laying. [0:12:43, 0:12:45]: For this group, the homeless [0:12:45, 0:12:47]: Втракабол дата. [0:12:47, 0:12:49]: As to its progression [0:12:49, 0:12:50]: Or failures. [0:12:51, 0:12:53]: So I say shame on all of you. [0:12:53, 0:12:56]: For not planning effectively to deal with this matter. [0:12:57, 0:12:59]: Again, I want you all to know that [0:12:59, 0:13:01]: I'm a good person. [0:13:01, 0:13:02]: I'm just outspoken. [0:13:02, 0:13:04]: А кір бабама ком'юті. [0:13:05, 0:13:06]: Yeah. Thank you for your time. [0:13:08, 0:13:09]: Who's next, uh Ms. Halday? [0:13:12, 0:13:14]: Miss Ann Fields. [0:13:25, 0:13:34]: Hi, Ann Fields, 329 Chase Marionway 30253. Um I just came to um ask [0:13:35, 0:13:55]: Due to the recent circumstances with everything going on with the amphitheater, if Stockbridge would consider purchasing the homes that resi are behind the amphitheater, this has been an extreme burden on the residents back there that don't want to be here anymore. And financially it's unfeasible for these folks to move. [0:13:55, 0:14:15]: I would hope that Stockbridge would consider doing the right thing to try to square this up and make do right by the people that have been taxpayers and hardworking community citizens for years here, including including Sunny and her kids. She's very open to an agreement. [0:14:14, 0:14:34]: To move, but the noise is unbearable for her. So I would hope that you would consider purchasing these homes from these people that do want to relocate now. Enough is kind of enough watching the financial downfall and everything that's going on here. The other thing I wanted to talk about was they're not letting me bring my wife. [0:14:34, 0:14:54]: Water in and I've been coming here for two years and I never ever ever because I'm a Girl Scout ever leave it worse than I came in. So all my garbage comes with me everywhere I go. And we should be allowed to have our water in here. You guys all have your waters and it's a hundred degrees outside. Um but any handicapped person [0:14:54, 0:14:58]: And that should be hydrating should be able to bring in [0:14:59, 0:15:19]: some sugar candy to you know to re redo their sugar if they're diabetic and we should be able to do that. I don't know why you guys eliminated bringing water in, but I'm happy to clean up after people just to keep the community flowing here. Thank you. Well thank you. No typically we don't respond to anything. Thank you. [0:15:19, 0:15:39]: But uh I would think that since we do have water, that's true. Uh so I don't know what's stated out there. I don't know why you couldn't have water absolutely in here if we have it. Okay. Yes, sir. I think working at event venues, what they do is in a situation like this. [0:15:38, 0:15:58]: This, they consider the water bottles that are full of water to be a potential threat. So they pour the water in a cup. So maybe we should have cups available for them to pour water in so that that that threat would be removed. Because if you go in any sporting venue, they have bottled waters in there. [0:15:58, 0:16:15]: But they allow they make the staff pour them into a cup so they can't be hurled because you see sometimes at the sporting events. Right. Mortified answers all these qu concerns, but more to follow we'll have it straightened out for the next time we have a public meeting. Anything else? [0:16:19, 0:16:29]: Well that's why I don't I don't okay. More more to follow. Hold hold up, stop, stop. Well we'll well I told you we'll f we'll have this figured out. The next time you come for a public meeting, we'll have this resolved. All right. No anybody else, Miss Holiday? [0:16:31, 0:16:32]: Ms. Carter, please. [0:16:40, 0:16:52]: Yes, my name is Willie Carter, 123 Wilson Avenue, Stockbridge, Georgia. The first concern that I have regarding is uh be be acknowledged the city needs to come up a commission with some kind of a [0:16:53, 0:16:55]: I think they called it a [0:16:56, 0:17:01]: Oversight committee due to the fact that uh there's no safeguards between [0:17:01, 0:17:21]: The ethnic board and the uh council. There's no kind of safeguards. So I think the city should establish some kind of oversight committee as far as those regards. Due to the time, I need to run through this here briefly. Second, we was at the um this past event at the uh amphitheater, and while you was giving your declaration. [0:17:21, 0:17:36]: For the Juneteenth um were prior to that, Mr. Alexander made it a kind of a bigotry statement. Quote The statement w was made was the amphitheater. [0:17:36, 0:17:37]: Yeah. [0:17:38, 0:17:49]: Would I need to stop? Well, what it is is that uh n no I'm not sure what exactly what you're gonna say. You may keep it general versus uh any perception. Well I'm just quoting a statement that he made, which you didn't which you didn't correct. [0:17:49, 0:18:02]: Well I don't know what I'm not I'm not sure what you're referring to. Point of order. Okay. The point of order is the rules are here are very clear. All comments have to be directed toward the chair. You cannot [0:18:03, 0:18:23]: All anybody's name up here or mention anybody or have a personal attack. That is the rules. There are no personal attacks allowed. But that was the same personal attack that was made on the public. Which is the statement that he made to the public regarding. [0:18:24, 0:18:28]: But s so are d so am I allowed to continue what he said or not? [0:18:28, 0:18:29]: Someone said. [0:18:30, 0:18:47]: Whatever s where someone s stated. State it. All right, go ahead. Go ahead. If that feel palatable to you. Go ahead. That which was disrespectful to the public about the amphitheater is here now. There's nothing that we can do about it. I think that's very bold and bigotry statement that was made from this individual. [0:18:47, 0:18:48]: Uh wait. [0:18:49, 0:18:53]: Okay, is that all your comments sir? That's it? Yeah. Okay, thank you for your comment. Appreciate it. [0:18:53, 0:19:13]: That's right. Okay. Uh council need for you to review your minutes. Uh review the minutes of June 9th, 2025, council meeting minutes for that, and also June 16th, the special call meeting minutes. And we'll get a chance to approve those at our next meeting, which will be next month. And uh right now we have a presentation, Wayfinder Project. [0:19:13, 0:19:16]: Mr. Sanders, please. [0:19:24, 0:19:24]: Yeah. [0:19:25, 0:19:45]: Good evening. Good evening. Uh this the item before you this evening, Mayor and Council, is uh we intend uh there's a group of folks with me this evening and we are going to give a PowerPoint presentation to you all about the current status of the Wayfinding Project, which is very exciting. Uh if you're like me, you've probably already seen signs go up. [0:19:45, 0:20:05]: in and around downtown that was mostly phase one we're in the midst of phase two and so i have uh with me this evening um um cheryl woodson and dominique heritage uh who are going to join me here at the podium and mr heritage is actually going to lead the discussion uh [0:20:05, 0:20:09]: as it relates to the PowerPoint, so I hope you all will enjoy the information that we're about to share with you. [0:20:10, 0:20:11]: Okay, thank you. [0:20:12, 0:20:13]: Thank you, Mr. Sanders. [0:20:15, 0:20:16]: Uh let me just [0:20:17, 0:20:37]: Bring up the presentation real quick. It's a pleasure to see you all again, council members. I don't know if you remember me from several months ago. Um I was here to discuss the budget as we kicked off the signage. And today I'm here to provide you some updates as far as where we're at with the different phases, what's upcoming, and then some other things that have been [0:20:37, 0:20:46]: been in development. Name and address please, by the way. Oh sure. Dominic Heritage 2738 Spring Street in Dekula, Georgia. [0:20:47, 0:20:58]: Sky Design, yes, Sky Design is the comp I sorry, yes, Sky Design is the company I represent, and this is Cheryl Woodson with uh Danais, and they are the signage fabricators that we have all partnered with over the past year and a half or so. [0:21:00, 0:21:13]: So if everyone can see the PowerPoint presentation, we're just gonna go through each page, um, starting with all the different phases of work. So the signage has been broken down into three phases, essentially what doesn't need to be permitted. [0:21:13, 0:21:15]: Phase two is what needs to be permitted with the city. [0:21:15, 0:21:18]: Phase three is signage that's in G dots purview. [0:21:18, 0:21:23]: So all of those have either been in development or are um being installed currently. [0:21:23, 0:21:43]: Phase one being the first signs that you may have actually already seen throughout your city. Um this is some enhanced street signage, parking wayfinding, as well as a retrofit to the existing Merlmander's sign. So you can actually go out and see those on site. We just completed the punch walk this afternoon. So um [0:21:43, 0:21:48]: Um Mr. Sanders, Mayor Ford, you should see a report in your hands by next week just outlining [0:21:49, 0:21:51]: The completion of phase one. Okay. [0:21:53, 0:22:00]: And here's just a quick reference to those installed signs that you can go out and see. A lot of the concentration is in the downtown area. [0:22:01, 0:22:21]: Phase two is in production right now with the DenICE team, and this is where things are really going to start getting exciting. Throughout this phase, we're going to be fleshing out some of the identification for parks and amenities, as well as in the bottom right here, your typical directional sign. So this is really the bread and butter of the signage package. [0:22:21, 0:22:24]: It's identification for some of your big [0:22:25, 0:22:30]: substantial buildings, city hall, as well as starting to navigate people through the city. [0:22:31, 0:22:40]: We also in the top left where my cursor is, that is a um one of the smaller scale gateway signs. So those act as a demarcation that you're entering within the city property lines. [0:22:42, 0:22:56]: And just to give a quick recap of where we're at with phase two, so this is in production right now. Um permitting is completed, these are being built by the DNICE team. We anticipate in October 2025 completion of install for all those signs. [0:22:57, 0:23:01]: So by the end of the year you'll have a much more robust signage system in place. [0:23:02, 0:23:22]: Phase three is underway with GDOT. So, as I'm sure many of you have previously experienced, GDOT marches to the beat of their own drum, and that beat goes however fast or slow they may determine. So this phase really includes the larger, heavier hits of signage, anything that's off of the [0:23:22, 0:23:36]: main right-of-way that's in GDOTs purview. Some of the signs included are in the top left large-scale gateway signs off I-75 that really welcome to Stockbridge, as well as anything else that's off major routes. [0:23:38, 0:23:45]: We are experiencing a few discrepancies from GDOT. Um the first being uh uh kind of a [0:23:46, 0:23:52]: We have signage proposed at the Jodico Road exit as well as signage proposed at the Rock Quarry exit. [0:23:52, 0:24:12]: They aren't allowing both of those signs. They're considering both gateways when we're only allowed one per direction. So what does that mean? Essentially what it means is the gateway sign at Rock Quarry isn't permitted. We suggest going with the Jodeco Road sign because it is a true. [0:24:12, 0:24:18]: Property line or demarcation of the property line for stock bridge. [0:24:20, 0:24:30]: We do have a plan in action to make sure there is still some stockbridge welcoming moment at the Rock Quarry exit. It's just not gonna be as grandiose as we initially thought. [0:24:31, 0:24:47]: The other discrepancy that we're dealing with right now is with another one of the main gateway signs and that that you can see right here. So this is as you're traveling down I-75. Um I'm trying to remember the exit we're at specifically. [0:24:49, 0:24:53]: Oh sorry, sir. [0:24:54, 0:24:55]: No, I believe it is [0:24:56, 0:24:57]: Seventy five, yeah. [0:24:58, 0:25:04]: So this is um if you're heading seventy-five south, I think you uh would hit this sign. [0:25:05, 0:25:25]: The pink area on this grid is where we submitted for permitting. And maybe weeks prior to our submission, Henry County actually submitted for a sign there. So right now the issue we're dealing with is we either need to have a conversation with Henry County, essentially uh parlaying with them, saying, hey, could we either [0:25:26, 0:25:38]: take this over or work together to create a joint sign. Um the other quadrants shown in blue are what are available to us, but unfortunately those don't have the sight line and [0:25:39, 0:25:58]: impact of the one in pink. So we're at a bit of a standstill with this one sign because of Henry County essentially beating us to the punch with permitting. It's recommended that a conversation is struck up from the city of Stockbridge with Henry County. Otherwise we're at a bit of a standstill until that development occurs. [0:26:02, 0:26:22]: And this was actually some quick details of the Jodeco road sign. So A2 is the main large gateway sign here. And what's not being permitted is this smaller scale gateway at the Rock Quarry Eagles Landing exit ramp. So basically, we have to do away with this to keep this sign, and we're gonna figure out an alternate way. [0:26:21, 0:26:41]: To have some kind of welcoming moment. If I zoom in here, let me interrupt you for a second. That is because it's too close to the road, is that's why it's unacceptable? No, it's not that it's too close to the road, they only allow one gateway sign per direction. So because these signs both service the same direction of traffic, only one is permitted. Okay. [0:26:41, 0:26:51]: There's really no way around that. If it was a some kind of directional wayfinding, we might be able to squeak past their blockade of this. [0:26:51, 0:26:56]: But um it's unclear until we resubmit. Ms. Gang, go ahead, please. Thank you. Um [0:26:56, 0:27:03]: I don't recall asking for a gateway sign in a Hudson Bridge. And I not that I I I get what you're saying. [0:27:04, 0:27:24]: But those markers are throughout the city anyway, right? We'll be having those markers in and out of our on our borders throughout the city limits of Stockbridge. Is that not correct? There are some existing ones. Okay. This the plan for this when it was first developed in twenty twenty three was almost a replacement of those. This is because of the stock. [0:27:23, 0:27:39]: rebrand and the new look, we're essentially revamping those locations to have a new branded gateway sign. But are those the signs that the gate those are the same gateway signs that will be throughout the city marking our borders? [0:27:39, 0:27:59]: You have three different types actually. There's gate uh sign type A, which are these those. The big guys here. Those are the gateways. The so one in direction going north and one going south. Yes. This is also a gateway sign. It's just a smaller scale. And so you have A, B, and C. There's a primary, secondary, and tertiary gateway. It depends on the [0:27:59, 0:28:03]: um size of the route that we're putting the sign. [0:28:03, 0:28:23]: Okay. The ones that we normally have right now we have wooden stakes with circles up top. Are those replacing those? These are replacing those, yeah. So exactly. So to me, those are the signs that show our borders, like one that will be out closer to between Stockbridge and Clayton County down here on Lake Spivey. [0:28:23, 0:28:43]: Then you have one on n um 138 between um Stockbridge and Clayton County again where uh Clayton County kinda comes in over there by that um Planet Fitness and that. So you have a a marker there. There are are particular places not on [0:28:43, 0:28:58]: the Interstate. So we don't have one on the Interstate right now. I mean we we're having an interra I get it. I'm I don't I'm not looking at this as being a big deal. I don't this is a marker that sh seems kinda out of place. [0:28:59, 0:29:05]: The reason that this was proposed and approved previously is while Jodeco Road is the true [0:29:05, 0:29:18]: city boundary, this is a major access point to get to Stockbridge. You get off the exit and then you can take Rock Quarry up to the downtown area. So that's why this was considered. Okay. Um to your point, Councilmember Gann, I do understand that [0:29:19, 0:29:28]: if we had to pick the larger sign at Jodeco Road is really the the one that matters most. So um to your point, there's this is going away. Um [0:29:29, 0:29:36]: And so if the area the the marker that we have currently on one thirty eight on North Henry Boulevard on seventy five [0:29:37, 0:29:53]: South, going south. The other gateway sign. Yes. Exit two twenty eight is what where you pretty much are trying to put it. That Henry County already already had a designated area. Then [0:29:53, 0:30:06]: Um if Henry County hopefully they say yes, they'll they'll allow us to do that. I mean it's a stopbridge jurisdiction, right? It's also the entryway to Henry County. So [0:30:09, 0:30:16]: We're ready to go. I don't know when they are getting started with their gateway sign. I don't know their their [0:30:16, 0:30:36]: their signs that means they'll have one down by Locust Grove and one by us pretty much. I'm not pretty sure where they're going with this, but we're we're ready to go. And so we will meet with, I guess we'll test staff to go ahead um and meet with the county about that. But [0:30:36, 0:30:37]: Do we have a plan B? [0:30:38, 0:30:48]: We don't have a plan B currently, um outside of just starting the conversation with Henry County. Um I think once we have an understanding of what they're willing to budge on, we can start coming up with an actionable plan. [0:30:49, 0:30:53]: My hope is if there's some level of concession from Henry County, perhaps we can [0:30:53, 0:31:07]: take this design and incorporate some kind of reference to now entering Henry County or something to that effect. Um but until the conversation is spurned with Henry County, I'm not a hundred percent sure where to pivot just yet. [0:31:07, 0:31:08]: Well [0:31:10, 0:31:18]: When I drive along seventy five, I'm trying to think, do you see counties gateway signs or do you see cities? Like if I go up [0:31:19, 0:31:20]: I don't see county, so [0:31:23, 0:31:43]: Yeah, they do. Clayton County has put theirs right by the airport on both seventy five and eighty five. Clayton County. Clayton County has it also on two eighty five, right as you're going into the airport. And then you see cities like Sandy Springs has theirs, Peace Street County. And you see Roswell and UC So I that's what I was thinking. I I didn't realize Clayton County had put up since I was [0:31:42, 0:32:00]: So now they're gonna start a trend where the counties and the cities are both trying to put up their signs. But um in the past it's been the cities. And so uh I guess we definitely wanna speak with them about that. I just kind of wanna maybe we can combine. I don't know. Um [0:32:00, 0:32:18]: But uh I would ask that you guys find a plan B just in case. Um but ho uh I I don't think Henry County would have a problem with us trying to work together. We've been working really well together lately on getting something done and accomplished. So thank you. My pleasure. [0:32:18, 0:32:19]: The [0:32:20, 0:32:40]: Either the question is like we're done or are we still in the still going. I just wanted to let you finish and then we're gonna go. All right, fine. Go ahead, please. Um so just to finish up the conversation about phase three, as as stated, we're really just in talks with GDOT and trying to overcome these hurdles. Um we anticipate an early twenty twenty six. [0:32:40, 0:32:57]: six completion to this, uh again, that's pending how the GDOT conversation goes. We're still in the middle of the review process and it it there's no unfortunate timetable provided by GDOT. So once we get through that approval phase, we'll be able to put true dates to when this would be completed. [0:32:57, 0:32:58]: Nice. [0:32:59, 0:33:19]: I have two more items I would like to discuss. The first is digital signage. At the behest of the city manager, it was requested that we begin investigating where would be the best place to put some kind of digital signage to advertise events and upcoming happenings at the amphitheater. [0:33:19, 0:33:26]: So, what I'm gonna go through real quick is the exercises we went through and where we're at right now in that design process. [0:33:27, 0:33:29]: The initial investigation was right here. [0:33:30, 0:33:38]: Outside of City Hall. We were looking over where the fountain is. However, that became just a little bit too much of a struggle with all the upcoming developments. [0:33:39, 0:33:41]: posed to happen in that area. [0:33:41, 0:33:47]: from relocation of the fountain to the potential mixed use residential development there. [0:33:47, 0:34:06]: It became a struggle to confidently suggest a location that isn't gonna either impact future developments or be something that you would have to consider relocating. So we scrapped that idea and then began looking at, okay, what if we incorporate some kind of digital signage into the future development? [0:34:07, 0:34:08]: The caveat to that is [0:34:09, 0:34:29]: You wouldn't get a sign until that development comes to life. So that puts while it could look great and integrated, the problem with that is if you're looking for something immediate, there's nothing we can do until a structure is actually in place. Plans are in place that we can figure out how to best integrate it. So we started putting some renderings together, but again, the issue. [0:34:29, 0:34:30]: [2072.4, 2092.4]: Where we're at right now is we've looked at two different locations. The first and most actionable here is right outside of City Hall. Just behind your retaining wall, where you have the dimensional letters that say Stockbridge City Hall. There's a great uh strip of landscaping that has been cleared that we can build up a digital sign that marries with the [0:34:52, 0:35:00]: Aesthetic established for the civic signage being rolled out. And we've did visual uh visibility studies, and this is [0:35:00, 0:35:09]: As you're coming over the bridge, it's it's a great intersection that people will see it if it's not on their way to work, it's on their way back, etc. So [0:35:10, 0:35:14]: As far as rolling something out immediately and effectively, this is the spot that we recommend. [0:35:15, 0:35:35]: The other consideration we were told to look at is sorry, could you back up one sec? Just for clarification. In reference to this, I think the conversation I had with you and Gerald and make sure the uh council understands this as well, you know, and for the future we plan to have it remove the water fountain. So the water fountain would go right back there. So if this does not if that is the case, we agree [0:35:35, 0:35:43]: This sign will where it's positioned, will not block the from you from watching or seeing the water flow as it does now, just so you know that, all right? [0:35:44, 0:35:54]: But it was originally planned to be there anyway. Yes ma'am. So I just wanted to sign. Right. Is that correct? Yeah. So I just wanna make make that note there. Yes, we are aware so this is [0:35:55, 0:36:05]: A lot of the locations we've looked at, there's somet some kind of prospect also potentially, whether it be the fountain or we've heard that maybe even the city hall would potentially expand. So we're we're in a position where [0:36:06, 0:36:07]: Mm. [0:36:08, 0:36:28]: We need some ad advice on if we are to do this, you know, maybe the fountain needs to just provide enough clearance that water's not being splashed on the screen. Even though it would be exteriorated, there's things like that we have to work through for any future developments nearby that sign. Does that sound good? I don't think we really need to overthink this. Okay. [0:36:28, 0:36:48]: That should be the location. I mean it's perfect. We had this area cleaned out. We had a bunch of trees and shrubs and stuff in there. And it really just kinda identified itself. And as you said, when you come over the bridge, everybody would come over that bridge. That sound that sign would stand out and uh it would be visible from both directions. So [0:36:48, 0:36:50]: Yes. I think I would support this location. [0:36:51, 0:37:11]: The other consideration we explored from the design standpoint is how do we incorporate a digital sign into the Eagles Landing gateway? Uh so this would just be a retrofit of the existing sign. We would essentially cover up and update any of the old branding present on that sign and utilize one face of the gateway to incorporate a digital screen that would overlook. [0:37:11, 0:37:15]: the Rock Quarry and Eagles Landing intersection. [0:37:16, 0:37:29]: This doesn't ha this is if we were to favor either of the designs, it'd be the city hall one, but for future considerations, this design is in place. We even have pricing for it for y'all to consider uh moving forward. [0:37:30, 0:37:37]: Thank you. On that note, I will go over the numbers associated with those two sign types. Um [0:37:37, 0:37:47]: DNICE was kind enough to actually hold because they they knew this was in development, they've been kind enough to hold some stock of their digital components. [0:37:47, 0:38:04]: That reflect pre-tariff pricing. A lot of the digital components have exploded in price since the tariffs have been rolled out. So the two numbers on the right for the City Hall and Eagles Landing where my cursors are are for those digital signs. They're right about the$117,000 mark. [0:38:04, 0:38:18]: Um the two bar graphs on the left side reflect just portions of the signage budget. At one point we were going to try to fold this into the signage budget, but there's just not enough left in the bucket to do so. [0:38:18, 0:38:37]: We had a contingency of about$115,000, and that's really just for unforeseen. Um, you know, with signs of that scope and scale going off of I-75. We're not sure what we're gonna find underground when we're putting in a footer, so a lot of that was just in case, just in case, basically. Um we've [0:38:37, 0:38:57]: consume some of that contingency for two things. We are putting an anti-graffiti coding on Clark Park signage just to make sure that any kind of um vandalism can be easily corrected. And then we're doing a embellishment to add a one-inch reveal. This is just a design consideration for the main gateway signs. And we [0:38:57, 0:39:05]: Still have an unforeseen conditions bucket as well. So, this is really more just to give you an idea of where we're at with the signage budget or the excess that we have. [0:39:06, 0:39:08]: While these two are [0:39:08, 0:39:18]: the pricing we've received from DNICE and if the council would like to move forward with that either of the digital signs, this gives you an understanding of the funding we would need to get approved. [0:39:19, 0:39:20]: Okay. [0:39:22, 0:39:42]: Last but not least, we have um civic signage phases two and three coming up as discussed. Our Sky Design services do conclude at phase one. Uh so if the city council is interested in continuing work with Sky Design, we can put a proposal together to continue doing uh construction. [0:39:42, 0:39:48]: administration services for phases two and three. And then the last consideration is the directory map. [0:39:49, 0:39:55]: You have two of these signs going in, one on the main strip downtown. [0:39:56, 0:40:16]: And one right by the Will Call ticketing booth at the amphitheater. These will be static signs that are essentially a directory map of the city of Stockbridge. It'll give pedestrians an understanding of where food and beverage is, all the different amenities that downtown has to offer and surrounding. Um and the signage Golden. No, also [0:40:15, 0:40:29]: So Baron Council, when he when he refers to Main Street, I wanted to clarify and say we have discussed and we have walked MLK Sr. being the location of this sign. So I just wanted to clarify that in his reference to Main Street. All right. Thank you. [0:40:30, 0:40:39]: So, what we're looking to figure out is when we were initially contracted for design, the design of the actual map was not included. [0:40:40, 0:41:00]: Mr. Sanders is looking with the GIS team to see if it's something that you all could do internally. If not, we can put a proposal together for the design of this map for your consideration. And just to give you some context, that map is something that would be easily removable. So as developments occur, you're not having to invest in a whole new sign up. [0:41:00, 0:41:05]: panel would pop off. It would just have to be reprinted or reapplied and then screwed back on. [0:41:06, 0:41:07]: Uh, thank you. [0:41:08, 0:41:22]: Any questions on this side? Yeah. Okay. First of all, um the idea uh in my mind on that last thing that you just mentioned certainly [0:41:23, 0:41:35]: the sign visibility should be the pre should be um the preference. And with so many more people coming to the amphitheater. [0:41:36, 0:41:56]: to see the sign and to know that the restaurants are over there and the bars are over there, it would seem plausible and that it would be at the amphitheater versus being on MLK trail because you got we're trying to get them there. You actually have two, sir. There would be one on I think it's a little bit of a [0:41:55, 0:42:07]: So it's two of them? Yes sir. Yes. Okay. So one would be oh oh right adjacent to the ticketing booth at the amphitheater, and then one would be off MLK at the Amphithous. Okay, so there's no there's not one anywhere else? [0:42:08, 0:42:28]: I think just two. Just two, yes. Right. And that's what I was gonna say. So to have both of them within basically within a block of each other, you would have one. I would suggest that you put one at Jodeco, in the Jodico development, so that people come through when they're walking through the development, they can know that there's a downtown stockbridge and they can know where [0:42:28, 0:42:48]: that is. The idea to me, especially on the signage, and I think we kind of did it maybe inverse the way that it may have could have been done, was to focus on bringing people to downtown. Because if there are nobody comes here now, it which that's the problem. The problem is getting the people to the downtown. [0:42:48, 0:42:54]: So if people that are shopping at Costco see they have a sign there that says [0:42:54, 0:43:14]: The amphitheater is over there. Frozen smoke is over there. Um Downtown Social is there. Or the amphitheater is there. There's thousands of people that come to that Costco every day that will become excuse, that'll be coming the first watch, that'll be coming to Sprouts. That is one that is the most highly [0:43:14, 0:43:23]: traffic area in the city. So instead of having two machines within a block of each other, having one over there at the JohtoCo development and [0:43:23, 0:43:31]: It's all about marketing to me. That's what the that's what we're doing here, right? This is a marketing device, right? If you got two within [0:43:32, 0:43:33]: A block of each other. [0:43:34, 0:43:35]: Then [0:43:35, 0:43:55]: where we're we're trying to draw the people into, it would make more sense to put it in a location where thousands of people come every day that we could drive them to the downtown location and we would already have one here at this location, whether we choose one of the two spots, whether the council [0:43:55, 0:44:13]: want to be. But I don't see the purpose of putting two in the same area within a block of each other. It would make more sense to do it on the outer areas. Also, I want you to flip back to the very first slide of all the signage where you did the Merlomanders and you did the signage and all of that. [0:44:16, 0:44:16]: Mm-hmm. [0:44:17, 0:44:37]: Councilman Bar Alexander, you were look at that beautiful new sign that we did with the stoprid logo, and then I look at those discolored bricks that are on the existing sign, and I say, maybe we should go back and revisit that. And we might need to put the brick veneers to match. [0:44:37, 0:44:57]: Well you know, on the big cook on the big pierce sign, we have the brick veneer at the bottom, right, to match City Hall. That brick doesn't match anything. So what we would be able to do, because it looks cause you look at it now, you see the sign, and the sign looks great, but then you look at this older [0:44:57, 0:45:17]: discolored brick that really doesn't kind of fit in with that sign right there. But if you did the same brick, you did the Vrick Vrick veneers on the outside, just like we're gonna do on the big interstate signs, and you covered that, it would look like a new sign. You wouldn't even have to tear the sign down. Basically you would just have to reface it with brick veneers. [0:45:17, 0:45:37]: uh on the outside. All the signs should probably be redone that way because it just it looks a little odd that you have this brand new sign in the middle of this old outdated brick. So I know you're trying to save money. Certainly that's the idea that you were trying to serve money, but if we're gonna do the expressway signs that way. [0:45:37, 0:45:57]: We would be very consistent in that every sign that we do would have the same brick that we have on City Hall if we went with and did brick veneers. I don't again, you wouldn't tear down the sign. You would just basically rip off the facing of those uh outdated uh brick that's on there and you would [0:45:57, 0:46:17]: Would put the same color brick that you have here on City Hall so that would match in. So the signs that you have done so far, they look great. I I I would say what we want to do is we want to be careful with where we're putting the signs at to make sure that they're far enough, far enough out of the right-of-way. And I think this sign down. [0:46:17, 0:46:37]: Out here on Lee Street, we're gonna we got a sidewalk that's gonna be coming through there. So we're probably gonna have to move that one. So we need to be further enough out of the right-of-way. The one on North Lee Street, right? We just put it up by the church. There's gonna be a sidewalk that'll go on that particular section. So it'll probably just [0:46:37, 0:46:57]: have to be moved over a little bit out of that right away. So and and then the signs along uh it we just talked about that with the representative and basically that whole sidewalk from North Lee Street to East Atlanta Road is going to be widened. So those signs probably gonna have to be moved a little bit further. [0:46:57, 0:47:17]: out of the right-of-way than where they are right now. And I think we just had need to have discussions amongst the departments when uh we go down that route. But the main focus of all of what we're doing now was the directional signage, which was when people get off the interstate, the amphitheater [0:47:17, 0:47:30]: is this way, Merle Manders is this way, City Hall is this way. I don't s I don't I guess that's in another phase. Correct, yeah. Right. That'll be in the second phase. I didn't see any of that signage represented in the presentation. [0:47:30, 0:47:50]: Uh yes, sir. It is in fact in phase two and phase three. So right down here where my cursor is circling is a representation of those signs. You have about twenty or so in phase two. And then the remaining balance, which I think is twelve to fifteen in phase three. Um the reason they're not in phase one is strictly because of permitting. Um so that is what is up. [0:47:50, 0:47:59]: on the horizon October, you should have a very f uh large amount of these signs going in. And that I I actually wanted to double back to the pedestrian kiosk. [0:48:00, 0:48:16]: When you were mentioning one down in the Jodico area, that's actually what those signs the purpose of those signs is to push people from the area toward I'm sorry, the purpose of the directional signs is to push them from Rockwari towards the downtown area. The kiosks are really more [0:48:17, 0:48:19]: serving pedestrians [0:48:20, 0:48:23]: Андер сім'я клос то вона. [0:48:23, 0:48:24]: Yeah. [0:48:25, 0:48:34]: They're also to service like first time guests. Say someone's coming here for an amphitheater show and there's overflow parking that's spilled out and someone is in on M M L K Boulevard, they have no idea how to [0:48:34, 0:48:41]: Walk towards the amphitheater. That's what's those kiosks are to do, even though they are in close proximity to one another. [0:48:42, 0:48:53]: they won't necessarily feel that way to first c first time visitors. They're what I'm what I'm what I'm saying to you is that Jodeco has gonna have about three miles in trails to be pedestrian friendly. [0:48:53, 0:49:13]: That's gonna be the most walkable area in the entire city. Sure. And there's gonna be thousands of people there actually walking. They do that now. There's hardly anybody that walks in downtown right now. The walking people would then be exposed. Them if you want people to see this sign and to read it, or in the businesses downtown with [0:49:13, 0:49:14]: Tell you. [0:49:14, 0:49:23]: There there's very little foot traffic downtown right now, very minimal. So we're trying to get people to their front doors. [0:49:23, 0:49:43]: So putting it outward brings people and makes people more aware of what we're doing in downtown. Instead of putting it in downtown where nobody's going to see it. So if we're gonna do the do the revenue, put instead of putting two side by side in very low traffic areas, you would put one in a high. [0:49:43, 0:49:48]: highly trafficked area and you would put one down here in the traffic area'cause [0:49:49, 0:50:08]: literally you would probably have more people in the Jodico area see the sign in a few hours than you would have in the whole week um in the down in in on MLK. I'm not saying we're not gonna come back to MLK at some point because we would circle back to MAK at some point. [0:50:08, 0:50:28]: Once we're driving the people in there, and this is free advertising for Mr. Frozen Smoke out there. This is free advertising for all of the businesses that are located in the pizza shop and all of that, that thousands of people would be now seeing their advertisement every day, whereas if it was down here the [0:50:28, 0:50:48]: Those people would have no idea that that was actually there. And as far as the signage is concerned, too, I understand, you know, you're listening to the main street, and certainly we want to listen to the main street being in the advice that they are and their focus is on the downtown. But people need to know how to get here first. [0:50:48, 0:51:08]: It has been my contention from the beginning. We needed to start at the interstate exits and work our way here. Somebody needs to know how to get to Merrill Manders first before we put the sign in downtown. If you're in downtown, you already know where Merromanders is. So putting the sign here, it might look good, it might be cute. [0:51:08, 0:51:28]: But the hope the whole purpose of wayfinding is all of us complain right now. When you get off of I-75, there no there's nothing telling you where the amphitheater is, there's nothing telling you where City Hall is or downtown. So to me, if you're not gonna do them, there should be some in the outer areas. [0:51:28, 0:51:48]: Starting at the expressway exits, some in downtown, but there should not be all in downtown, cause that really defeats the purpose, cause there's nothing directing you. We're trying to drive people, as I said, to these doors. And that advertisement there for Merrill Manors will book a couple of events. It'll book a couple of events for the amphitheater. [0:51:48, 0:52:08]: uh also. So certainly I I I think uh in my way of thinking that would be the way because this is a marketing thing that we're trying to do. We're not just trying to beautify downtown. We're trying to make people come here to sustain the businesses. Yes. So on that note I would imagine a couple things here. One is in reference to potential refacing the brick. [0:52:08, 0:52:27]: And then of course if you haven't been out to Bridge of Johto Code, then you kinda take a look at that and walk around and figure out what might be a good location out there, since you've if you've never been out there to get an idea, just in case. And then let us know. [0:52:28, 0:52:34]: Is that developing completed, the bridges? No, no, it's not completed, no, no. It's just it's not gonna be completed probably for another year, year and a half. [0:52:34, 0:52:54]: So because the maps haven't been developed, we have not installed and we have no plans of installing those directory kiosks until the map is developed. So that's that's the first hurdle is figuring out who is gonna handle the map, whether it's stockbridge internally or uh outside services. But trust and believe, even at the completion point that it is right now. [0:52:54, 0:53:01]: It is the most trafficked area in the city by far. Not even close. Yes, gosh, I have a question made. Go ahead, please. Um [0:53:02, 0:53:08]: Those those two kiosks that you're talking about, those are in certain maps. Right. So [0:53:08, 0:53:21]: I would assume that that would be for our downtown area. That's m my thought processes. You'll have your directional signs of course that you know, closer to the interstate and other areas saying, um [0:53:21, 0:53:22]: Murromanders and [0:53:23, 0:53:36]: art center this way, right? Or uh community center this way. But those particular are for our live, work and play downtown environment. So those two kiosks are different. [0:53:36, 0:53:41]: That's not but that's not the Jodico. This is saying, hey, this is what [0:53:42, 0:53:43]: No, what I'm saying is [0:53:43, 0:53:48]: But but we're developing downtown. So when downtown develops [0:53:50, 0:54:06]: Those two maps particularly are for the downtown campus area. They're not for the entire city of Stockbridge. They're saying, hey, city halls here, amphitheaters here, community centers here, art centers here. [0:54:07, 0:54:27]: Uh we have a park here, we have a park here, and we have a pavilion right here, and we might have a dog park over here, and we have this skating park right here. So it's about the downtown specifically, just the downtown area. So you know how when you go somewhere and they're just talking about that particular component of Stockbridge. They're not talking about the whole thing. [0:54:27, 0:54:41]: Thing. There will be advertisements over in Jodico about what's going on in downtown, you know, pointing towards our downtown. But when you get to downtown, you want a map specifically of the perimeters of the downtown area. There's a difference. [0:54:41, 0:55:01]: It's not to put those signs are not electronic, they're replaceable when we build something new, but also when we have those public-private partnerships or we have new development coming within this downtown area, not for the entire city of Stockbridge, and and it's unique in that way. [0:55:01, 0:55:07]: where we're specifically talking about the campus of downtown. [0:55:07, 0:55:15]: That's what these two are for. There are some other ones I remember, and I think that might be phase three. But those direct or phase two, those directional signs. [0:55:16, 0:55:31]: Which would be in Jodico or whatever other signs, but these specifically are talking about our downtown campus, which would make sense to me. Specifically on the trails, considering phase one of trails starts where? Downtown. [0:55:31, 0:55:40]: Right. So when you're walking, I'm not just gonna go and say, Oh, there's a kiosk. Let me go look at a map of Stockbridge. I'm not doing that. I don't know too many people that are. [0:55:40, 0:56:00]: And when you do first come, you're gonna look to find a parking space that are in the downtown area. Then you would go up to that and you would look for it because you're going to a show or you're going to a theater or you're going to whatever you're going to do in our downtown campus area. Those two kiosks, only two are specific. [0:56:00, 0:56:02]: [3363.6, 3372.0]: Okay. Anybody thank you. Any other questions on this side? There's nobody. Oh you have go ahead please. There's no are you there are you done with your presentation? [0:56:12, 0:56:15]: I believe so, yes. I'm happy to answer any questions though. [0:56:16, 0:56:16]: Okay. [0:56:16, 0:56:27]: Um so one of the questions that I do have when we started discussing this whole wayfinding signage um and the locations of them, um [0:56:27, 0:56:31]: Some areas particularly along State Route forty two. [0:56:32, 0:56:36]: We're not in our city limits. So I wanna make sure that State Route forty two. [0:56:37, 0:56:44]: going towards like Valley Hill Road at our city limits or where our city limits began. Um [0:56:45, 0:56:50]: that they are included on your list for at least directional sign. [0:56:51, 0:57:11]: We uh uh apologies, uh Councilmember Barber, as I don't have the full location plan handy right now. But what I can say is our directional signage is not just concentrated in downtown. It's a breadcrumb trail that takes you from any connecting routes, be it major highways or some of the secondary routes, and pushes you towards downtown. [0:57:11, 0:57:17]: So we have we have directional signs down by Eagles Landing in the Rock Quarry pushing people up. [0:57:18, 0:57:38]: Right off of exit 228, we start picking you up and pushing you towards downtown. Um, and I do know we have, while I've honed in on visuals of the major gateway signs, we have, I want to say about six to eight gateway signs circling Stockbridge to kind of demarcate from the major routes to [0:57:37, 0:57:48]: To the the more um you know county roads letting you know that you've entered Stockbridge. What I can do is provide the location plan, particularly the gateway signs, to Mr. Sanders. Um [0:57:49, 0:58:00]: when we meet next to distribute to you for review if you'd like. I'm speaking specifically for the directional signs. Yes. Um for the state route forty two area. [0:58:00, 0:58:07]: Um only because again, that area was newly annexed into our city limits in twenty twenty three. [0:58:07, 0:58:12]: Um so I just want to make sure that that area is included on the list. [0:58:12, 0:58:19]: If someone can confirm that or send me the list location to look into it and if it isn't um [0:58:21, 0:58:27]: If it isn't something that's being proposed, we'll certainly have it be a consideration. That's one of my questions. Um [0:58:27, 0:58:33]: You shared uh a new proposed location for um the large digital. [0:58:34, 0:58:35]: Board sign. [0:58:37, 0:58:42]: I'm just I'm curious to know the visibility from [0:58:42, 0:58:43]: Um [0:58:43, 0:58:46]: Травин алам Норт Хенри Булвард. [0:58:46, 0:58:47]: From [0:58:47, 0:58:49]: Rock Quarry Road. [0:58:49, 0:58:52]: What's the vis visibility of that sign? [0:58:52, 0:58:56]: So while this sign doesn't necessarily capture every direction. [0:58:57, 0:59:05]: What we view this as is this isn't a directional sign. This isn't something that we're trying to navigate you to the amphitheater. [0:59:05, 0:59:07]: This is something that is [0:59:07, 0:59:10]: Gonna catch your eye at some point in the day or the week. [0:59:11, 0:59:12]: Um [0:59:12, 0:59:26]: So Councilmember Barber, I want to just make it clear that this isn't to capture the full intersection. It's really only servicing as you come over that approach. But for anyone stopped at the intersection, regardless of what direction you are, you should be able to see this sign. [0:59:26, 0:59:38]: um and absorb the messaging. So it's supposed to be something that over the week you're updated to what event is happening. Um it's it's gonna grab you over time, not immediately send you to the amphitheater, if that if that makes sense. [0:59:39, 0:59:41]: Yes. Um but [0:59:41, 0:59:48]: We've had discussions about having a digital billboard signed for informational purposes. Um [0:59:48, 0:59:53]: For just the general public, so I want to make sure that we are taken advantage of. [0:59:53, 0:59:54]: Um [0:59:55, 1:00:00]: Everyone, no matter which direction they're coming from, are able to see. [1:00:00, 1:00:14]: We can devel look into this further. I think once if if a decision is made to move forward with this and and and funding is procured, we're gonna s tune those dials to make sure whether it's tweaking the orientation of the sign, um [1:00:15, 1:00:27]: There isn't a truly good location to have a double sided sign. That's actually what we first started looking at was making sure if you're heading down North Henry, we get you from both sides. There's just not a great location for that. [1:00:27, 1:00:31]: around the city hall area to implement it. Um [1:00:31, 1:00:48]: So will this um sign, will it sit on the wall? It's either going to sit on top of the wall or just behind it. We're gonna make it look integrated either way. It's really gonna come down to engineering at that point, what's the best route. But it's gonna be basically butted up just behind the wall. [1:00:48, 1:00:52]: Um and the digital screen is going to look like it basically s [1:00:53, 1:00:58]: ends right at the top of that wall. So n none of it will be obscured by the wall, whether it's sitting behind it or on top of it. [1:00:59, 1:01:02]: Okay. I didn't get this presentation. [1:01:02, 1:01:06]: in my packet. I'd like to have this presentation. [1:01:06, 1:01:12]: Okay, please. If you can um Mr. Sanders, are you responsible for this? Please. [1:01:12, 1:01:13]: Thank you. [1:01:14, 1:01:26]: Along with the list of all of those locations for the directional signs, I wanna make sure that Valley Hill Road and somewhere along um stagecoach, um where the [1:01:27, 1:01:34]: City limits began. I want to make sure that those two locations have directional signs included. Thank you. [1:01:36, 1:01:37]: So do you have any questions now? [1:01:37, 1:01:57]: I just wanna I just wanna thank you guys once again. I'm I'm always impressed by the product that you guys present. And so I don't know if it's been understated or not stated enough, but everything looks high quality and high end and I'm I'm just really looking forward to the full implementation and the and the development of the project. So we appreciate that, Councilmember Berry and uh [1:01:57, 1:02:06]: Um design's one thing, it's having a good trusted partner who can fabricate and bring the idea to life. That is really helpful as well. So thank you for that comment. [1:02:08, 1:02:08]: Any other questions? [1:02:09, 1:02:12]: Y uh you know this is a unique opportunity. [1:02:12, 1:02:18]: I see the DDA board out out there. I I would like to know what they think about this. Come could could y'all come up? [1:02:20, 1:02:21]: Well the yellow come on. [1:02:24, 1:02:44]: Because I I don't know what you think, but I would like to, I would like since you're here, I certainly would like to know what you think. So you see this signage here that we're proposing for downtown. It's gonna affect your business more than anybody's business out there. And the DDA is in the downtown area. So of this project. [1:02:44, 1:02:48]: Program what you see and what you've heard today. What what do you think? [1:02:50, 1:02:53]: Okay, there's yourself on a mic because [1:02:54, 1:03:14]: Yes, my name is Warren Washington. Uh I'm my name is Warren Washington. I'm at 106 Gulf Terrace, Stockbridge, Georgia. One of the things that that was intriguing to me and of making the statement of not only the directional signs, but due understanding that this is a marketing piece for the downtown area. And you're absolutely right that part of [1:03:14, 1:03:27]: that is to bring foot traffic to the downtown area and people need to know how to get to the downtown, not the ones that already stay here, but the ones who are trying to get here. So I think that kind of sums it up best, uh more so than anything else. [1:03:28, 1:03:29]: Mr. Chairman, what do you think? [1:03:32, 1:03:39]: Kenya Cook, uh Chairman of the Downtown Development Authority, um business owner in downtown. [1:03:40, 1:03:42]: And uh resident uh one o five. [1:03:43, 1:03:44]: Turning point. [1:03:44, 1:03:47]: Three points, and I've seen those signs. [1:03:48, 1:03:51]: Not impressed with the color scheme and the location. [1:03:53, 1:03:54]: Love the effort. [1:03:55, 1:04:00]: And uh as uh Councilman Alexander said, I think that we need to think like buckies. [1:04:00, 1:04:04]: When you're going into a certain area, Bucky's put their advertisement [1:04:04, 1:04:10]: Way m ninety three miles to Bucky. So I think it's important that if you're gonna spend money this way, you probably wanna place it [1:04:11, 1:04:13]: Whereas you're educating people who don't know. [1:04:14, 1:04:16]: versus spending on people who already know. [1:04:17, 1:04:19]: But I do like the concept. [1:04:19, 1:04:24]: I do like the effort, but uh that that would be my my thoughts. [1:04:24, 1:04:26]: Appreci appreciate the comments. Yes, ma'am. [1:04:27, 1:04:47]: I don't think you y'all heard the entire pres uh I think you were here for the entire presentation, but this is just phase one. So we have two more phases and they are the directional signs that will be on the outskirts in the other areas, such as Jodico, North Henry Boulevard, Lake Spivey [1:04:47, 1:05:04]: Walt Stevens everywhere all over throughout Stockbridge pointing towards our downtown. These signs are just like this sign says Merrill Manders Conference Center. It's just, it's part of our sign. It's like the ones they, the easy low-hanging fruit branding. [1:05:05, 1:05:25]: These are in the the street signs, those are just low hanging fruit. But the directional signage, what phase is that, you guys? Uh two and three. So next the next phase is the directional signage, and they're not gonna be in downtown that I mean you'll have some down here, but they're spread all the way out. [1:05:24, 1:05:27]: Yeah. [1:05:27, 1:05:40]: on both Jotaco from starting at Johtaco and starting at exit two twenty eight, which is one thirty eight, highway one thirty eight. So that's where those signages are pointing, downtown, amphitheater. [1:05:40, 1:05:57]: you'll see the directional signs from there. Okay. That so the other signs, the two marquee signs that we were talking about, those are mar those are maps that are insertable. And they were talking about you can take'em out um as the city grows. [1:05:58, 1:06:18]: And those were two kiosk type signs from my understanding where you just put a map in, it's not electronic, it's not electronical board that you're describing your downtown area specifically. So those signs are not directional signs more so than directions on your camp your downtown campus. Kind of like if you were on [1:06:17, 1:06:37]: Or if you want to when you go to a mall, you know you go to a mall and you see a kiosk and it tells you the directions of where the stores are. My favorite, you know, Neiman's over here and Sachs right there. You're right here. Those two kiosks are for that purpose for your downtown campus. [1:06:37, 1:06:57]: Then they have the entryway signs that we were talking about that is not a part of the budget, but they are they're because they're separate, I think 117,000 was it? Those are the digit the key the entryway sign. Per per sign. So it's either for the city hall digital sign. [1:06:57, 1:07:17]: Or the one on Eagles Landing built into the gateway side. I mean well not Eagles Landing, but Johtoco and North Henry Bullo I mean Jotaco and one thirty eight, right? Are you drawing like the Marge the March? Those are in the budget already. Those are those are in the budget. Perfect. Okay within the budget, they're in G dot review right now. All right, so those side [1:07:17, 1:07:37]: are our GDI that that we were trying to get GDI approved or whatever and we have the issue with the one on that we gotta merge with, you know, talk with the county on, those are entryway signs, the big art signs. So you got your gateway signs, then you got your directional signs. The directional signs will be pointing towards our downtown area. [1:07:37, 1:07:45]: But those are on the outskirts throughout both Joe from Jodico and on our end here on 138. [1:07:46, 1:08:03]: You said a hundred seventeen thousand dollars? Yes, for the digital sign. You said that's the low hanging fruit? No, that's for the one outside. That's not the one outside. No, the low hanging fruit is the Merrill Manders Conference Center. The ones that are. How much was that sign? Yeah. Uh I don't have the the anybody know? [1:08:04, 1:08:24]: I can't recall the top of her head, but it'll come up with the other. But just not easy. We got it. It's in our budget though. There's only one final comment on. Because I have an ask tonight, so I just want to know what we're asking for. Okay. Right. We're gonna come back. We're gonna come back. I guess what one final comment. See, this is this is why I I certainly agree. I hear your points, Mrs. Gantt. [1:08:24, 1:08:44]: But I set foot in Avalon. These signs are in Avalon right now, on the ground at Avalon. And we took the JohtoCo standards from Avalon. These boards are at Avalon as you walk along the Bark Guyway as a pathway to where you're trying to go. That's how they got into this package because we went to [1:08:44, 1:09:04]: Avalon on that trip. Now I know certainly that we should have uh you know some diversion. I and and I think we're on the same on the same page. I think you want to do Jotoko eventually. I just say if we're gonna do two, you do one at Jodico and then you come back to the second one as downtown. [1:09:04, 1:09:13]: as we get the people and the foot traffic in Jodeco, you would put the third one here. We just have disagreement on when we're gonna do it. I think both of us agree [1:09:13, 1:09:33]: That we need both of them in downtown. The starting point is I'd like to have one out and one in and then come back and put here. You want to put both of them in downtown. And my contention to that is there's nobody in downtown right now and and they're not coming until we force them to come here. And that that is my overall [1:09:33, 1:09:53]: Thank you for that. And the thing of it is too, once if I understand correctly, even though you haven't been out, I'm assuming you haven't been out to the Bridge of Jodico, but what you mentioned, if I don't want to put words in your mouth, uh, but in the sense that that you it wouldn't be feasible possibly to do that until you get more built out so you have a specific map as the people walk around. It's gonna be a while for us. [1:09:53, 1:10:13]: fully bought built out. It would be I don't think it should be a consideration of we have these two directory kiosks. Right. Where do we put each of them? Right, right. I think the consideration should be when Johako bridges to Johako or that development is is flashed out, but kiosks should make us we should include another kiosk down. Right, gotcha. I I think one at the end [1:10:13, 1:10:33]: Amphitheater is going to promote people who have just come from a show. Hey, I'm hungry. They look at the kiosk, they see what is over there. The same thing for downtown, as as if they're on MLK. It's giving them an understanding of not just what's in the downtown area, but what's surrounded. And that's the same purpose it would serve in the Jodeco area, is to give you an understanding. [1:10:33, 1:10:53]: Surrounding it's to encourage and entice you to check out what's around. But I don't think anyone, because these are again pedestrian kiosks, is going to discern from that kiosk how to get to downtown. Right. They're going to be on foot looking at the kiosk and absorbing the information, but it's not going to give them directions to say left on this right. [1:10:53, 1:11:06]: road right on this road and then you have downtown No no no it's not what is gonna happen is they're gonna be a made aware of the business and as I look out this window right here, Jodico more developed than downtown. Downtown got a long way to go. [1:11:06, 1:11:07]: Well [1:11:07, 1:11:27]: Hi, Ms. Watson. You'll I'll be brief. I'll be brief. One of the things while you're sitting here talking about signs and digital signs, one of the things I'm impressed with is that the sign when you get off the exit to go into Morrow, that digital sign there tells you about all of the activities that they're having in Morrow. Exactly and when you come to Stock Graze, you don't have any of that. [1:11:27, 1:11:31]: Appreciate you. Duly note it. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. All right. [1:11:31, 1:11:51]: I believe that is it uh now in this aspect. Uh so you don't need a a a a motion on us for tonight. This is a full presentation, this aspect is all. That's correct. I would I would add to the comment that Mr. Washington made. These sign, the digital signs are programmable, which means we can put any kind of message on them that we want. So I'll just leave you with that. [1:11:51, 1:11:57]: All right, so just as an F. All right. Thank you. Appreciate you. Thank you very much. [1:11:58, 1:12:09]: Uh next presentation, CID Community Improvement District presentation, Malika Rivers? Is how you pronounce your name? Malaika. Malaika Rivers, okay. Potum Resources, if I got that right. [1:12:10, 1:12:15]: Okay. Give me s give me straight [1:12:17, 1:12:20]: I guess you need to help her find her presentation, please. Uh yes. [1:12:30, 1:12:31]: Oh not that one. [1:12:38, 1:12:39]: This is [1:12:40, 1:12:42]: Full screen. [1:12:45, 1:12:46]: Yeah. [1:12:47, 1:12:51]: Thank you. [1:12:51, 1:13:11]: I'm Aleika Rivers. I'm the president of Pontum Resources. Mayor and Council members, thank you for having me here today. Um I collaborated with Henry County last year on an effort and provided a presentation that to them uh regarding that effort earlier in this month, and they asked me to come and speak to you about it because. [1:13:11, 1:13:31]: Parts of it do impact the city. A little bit about my background. I'm a 30-year professional in community improvement districts and special services districts. I operated and led the first CID in Georgia for 22 years, and I've uh had my company for the past [1:13:31, 1:13:51]: So I advise commercial real estate, governments, sports properties, civic associations regarding public-private partnerships with a specialty in these special purpose tax districts and in Georgia community improvement districts. So you may be familiar with [1:13:51, 1:14:11]: Community improvement districts, I'll refer to them as CIDs. But they are very, very powerful public-private partnerships. And all of the conversation that we've heard so far over the past hour regarding trails and branding and signage, all of that can be partnered and [1:14:11, 1:14:31]: Collaborated with a community improvement district to help in the development of those types of capital projects and the funding stacks that put those capital projects together. So they do serve a purpose in terms of economic development and are widely utilized all over Metro Atlanta. But this [1:14:31, 1:14:51]: This effort that I'm going to talk about is looking at: is there an opportunity to form a CID or multiple CIDs in Henry County? Henry asked me to put together an opportunity assessment for them, and which is the first stage of understanding about a CID. And we looked at two areas, which are the Eagles Landing Project. [1:14:51, 1:15:02]: Parkway and Jonesboro Road. So I'll focus a little bit more on Eagles Landing since that is uh within the city limits, uh whereas uh Jonesboro Road is an unincorporated Henry. [1:15:04, 1:15:24]: So again, it's about evaluating whether a CID uh has an opportunity in this particular county, in the particular in this particular city. It's a mechanism to bring commercial property owners and governments together to fund to identify and fund uh capital improvements that help not only the value and performance of commercial real estate. [1:15:24, 1:15:44]: But also drive economic development within commercial areas. I refer to them as special purpose tax districts. I will let everybody in the room know, all the homeowners, this is not a tax on residential properties. It has nothing to do with single-family homes or town homes or multifamily. It is a special purpose tax. [1:15:44, 1:15:53]: District that is for commercial properties only. And that means hotel, uh, retail, industrial, and those types of uses. [1:15:55, 1:16:15]: I pretty much just ran through that. Uh this slide is indicating uh again what a CID is. Um and the district is about com concentrated commercial areas. So if you are a property owner with retail that is um designated as retail in your land use or zoning uh or hotel or office or [1:16:15, 1:16:35]: Or other type of similar use, then you can collaborate with the neighbor your neighboring property owner through the special purpose tax district, assess funds, and then use those funds to make improvements to your particular commercial area. CIDs are not mandated by governments. My language about [1:16:35, 1:16:53]: About CIDs is very much about it being a commercial property tool. It's also a tool for governments, but because it's governed by commercial property owners, it really s squarely falls to the commercial property owners in terms of what types of investments uh those owners would like to see. [1:16:54, 1:17:14]: This map shows you where CIDs currently exist around Metro Atlanta. I think there's probably 36, 37 CIDs at this point. But if you look square in the middle, that's downtown Atlanta. That is one CID, that is the CID that is able to bring the most dollars to. [1:17:14, 1:17:34]: To the table through their assessments to the tune of about$11 or$12 million a year. But then you go into other commercial areas that are around$285, that are north of$285, and they all assess and have tax revenues that are very, very different because they're commercial. [1:17:34, 1:17:54]: Commercial areas are very different. If you look down south, you'll see a big gap area, and that includes Henry County. So all of this is simply to illustrate to you that there are commercial areas, 35 districts that are operating in Metro Atlanta right now that have a leg up as it relates to bringing additional. [1:17:54, 1:18:05]: dollars to the table through these public-private partnerships that invest in infrastructure and other community improvements to improve their area, just like the discussion that you had earlier. [1:18:08, 1:18:28]: CIDs are legislatively enabled, so they are provided for in the Georgia Constitution, but the Constitution uh indicates that um each community through either the county or through the city has to have its own local act. Uh either way, uh there are seven allowable purposes: roads, bridges, parking decks. [1:18:28, 1:18:48]: Sewer, stormwater, docking facilities, and then this nebulous and anything else category. But the way that that translates around Metro Atlanta and the and the geographies of where the existing CIDs are is represented on this particular slide. So we've got CIDs that do a lot of investment. [1:18:48, 1:19:08]: Investment in transportation infrastructure, roads, bridges, sidewalks, et cetera. We have others that operate programs like landscaping. They mow and maintain public rights of way. Public safety is another one in commercial areas that want to make sure that either the person [1:19:08, 1:19:28]: Or the reality of their commercial districts is one of public safety, where shoppers can come and feel safe. Litter removal is another thing that CIDs do on the programmatic side. Some are very focused on growth. I ran Georgia's first CID for 22 years, and if you've been to the Brave Stadium, you've [1:19:28, 1:19:48]: See the signage that we've done, the roads that we built, the trails that we put in, you know, all of these things that help to create a place. Excuse me, I might have to get my water in a minute. But but what the CID does and investment and invests in has everything to do with what's in what is most value to the property [1:19:48, 1:20:00]: property owners and what is valuable to the government partners because the CID can't it doesn't own any land. Uh the property owners represent their properties, but the CID invests in public [1:20:00, 1:20:13]: uh public rights of way. It does not invest on private property. So your city owned roads or sidewalks or state o owned roads, uh all of those are uh where the CID's investments go. [1:20:15, 1:20:21]: So when we talk about formation, you know, it's a very um it it it can [1:20:21, 1:20:41]: Uh there is a pr step process to go through a CID because essentially you're t asking people, C ID is great, these are all the reasons why, but the way that you do it is to tax yourself. So that that takes time and that takes effort. But I applaud um governments like Henry County that are interested [1:20:41, 1:21:01]: And recognize the value of a CID and want to um want to share the uh and see what the opportunity is with their commercial property owners. Uh the first step is to um it requires a local act. Again, uh Henry County does have a local act, uh dates back to 1985 when the constitutional provision was uh [1:21:01, 1:21:10]: um was created. It allows I believe it allows for CIDs um not only in unincorporated areas but also within cities as well. [1:21:11, 1:21:31]: CIDs, again, they're not mandated by the government. They have to be consented to by the property owners. Not every property owner, but the majority of property owners. So at least 50%, 50% plus one of the number of property owners within a proposed district that own at least 75% of the assessed properties. [1:21:31, 1:21:51]: Value. So most of those folks they have to throw in in order to establish a CID. I did a study with George Tech a few years ago that did a big deep dive on the mechanics of CIDs, and we found that it takes about four years to start a CID, and many take even longer than that. [1:21:51, 1:22:11]: I run the Chambly Dorville CID, which is uh which we started six years ago. And prior to my helping that community start a CID, I believe that they had been talking about it for probably six, six, seven, eight years. So it does take some time. It really and you progress through the stage of level of intensity through the formation. [1:22:11, 1:22:31]: Has to be approved by the local government. Again, it's a public-private partnership. So City Council, if you uh were to um approve uh uh uh initiate a CID, City Council would have to approve it. Um the CID board sets, sorry, it's governed by a board of directors. I indicated uh representing the various [1:22:31, 1:22:51]: Property owners, and then the board sets the millage rate each year. So as a taxing authority, it it uh sets its millage rate. Uh in Henry County, as well as state law, it allows up to 25 mills. That is a ton of village. Most CIDs choose three, four, or five mils. [1:22:51, 1:23:00]: Mills. So uh but in Henry County, uh you are uh enabled to go up to 25 mils if the property owners so choose. [1:23:03, 1:23:23]: Okay, so our study approach. Um, my organization, again, my company does this with uh with communities, whether the client is the commercial property owner or whether the client is a government. In this case, it's it's Henry County. But we do we start by doing a a data analysis and understanding what the submarket is. We look at the tax digest, zoning, comp plans. [1:23:23, 1:23:43]: State and local legislation, all sorts of current conditions. We get a lot of state uh do a lot of stakeholder outreach. In this case, we had 25 stakeholders that we spoke with, both on the private commercial property owner side, but also on the government side. So I know that I spoke with several. [1:23:43, 1:24:03]: Several of you during that interview stage, development authority, county officials, et cetera. We had 10 meetings, both virtual and in person, just so we could give people a good chance to put their voice into the mix. [1:24:03, 1:24:15]: And then we put together promotional it materials, so slide decks and um we sent letters out, about three hundred thirty-two letters to folks inviting them into um forums. [1:24:15, 1:24:19]: I'm sorry, would you mind if I grab my water? [1:24:32, 1:24:33]: Okay then. [1:24:34, 1:24:35]: Okay. [1:24:36, 1:24:56]: So our effort looked at two sub-areas. The first is Eagles Landing. Again, we'll talk a little bit more on that. And then the second is Jonesboro Road. So Eagles Landing in this case uh we drew the lines uh through the guidance of the uh planning department at the county. So that [1:24:56, 1:24:58]: They had indicated um [1:24:58, 1:25:18]: These these were the this captured the most curse commercial activity in this area of Eagles Landing. Um and then Jonesboro Road, they also advised on those boundary lines. So these are boundary lines that are drawn um through the guidance of uh the planning staff. About 1,100 acres in Eagles Landing, and um if [1:25:18, 1:25:21]: eight hundred sixty seven acres Jonesboro Road. [1:25:22, 1:25:42]: So it I tal talked about uh the stakeholders that we spoke with. Um we met with the stakeholders talk the stakeholders to talk about um both of those sub-areas, and this slide combines uh what we heard. We essentially heard that for both sub-areas uh the needs were pretty similar, or at least the [1:25:42, 1:26:02]: consistency came with some road improvements, uh repaving and access management. Heard a lot about uh the backup on I-75, excuse me, and how that flows into flows into the um uh the the uh Eagles Landing area and and Jonesboro Road uh corridors. [1:26:02, 1:26:22]: We heard about the need for pedestrian improvements as these sub-areas grow, whether it's residential use, commercial use, or otherwise, we need to provide the ability to connect people in a safe manner through sidewalks and other types of local improvements. And then a cohesive design and beautification. [1:26:22, 1:26:30]: Just spent an hour talking about uh that in your uh in your signage conversation. So you're uh you're clear clearly on the ball with that one. [1:26:33, 1:26:53]: So the next uh conversation is is does a uh deeper dive into both of those sub areas, and I'm gonna start with Eagles Landing. Let me orient you to the slide that you're looking at. Again, this is the sub area that we've drawn. Um we pulled the at that time the existing tax digest, which was the twenty twenty [1:26:53, 1:27:10]: twenty four tax digest. These numbers were run almost a year ago now. Um all of that in the blue is commercially eligible for a CID. The lighter blue being general commercial, about uh 283 parcels. [1:27:10, 1:27:30]: And the darker blue being industrial, about 50 parcels. Everything else in gray is not eligible to form to be part of a CID because it is an exempt or non-eligible use, like residential. Okay. The crosshatch, which is important to you, indicates parcels that are in the city of Stockbridge. [1:27:30, 1:27:38]: So not all of these are within your city limits, but by far the vast majority of this area is within the city limits. [1:27:39, 1:27:53]: So what this is saying is that two-thirds of the total number of parcels are eligible uh to to uh join a CID, uh and about a third of them are ineligible uh for the CID. [1:27:55, 1:28:12]: Uh I should say that uh you're probably more familiar with the corridor than I than I am, but um on the uh west side that is uh Jotaquo and um Hudson Bridge. And on the east side I believe that's S R forty one. Yes. So it's about a mile long. [1:28:14, 1:28:34]: We ran some financial modeling to get a better to get a sense of okay, if a CID started in the Eagles Landing area, in the in the sub-area that I just talked about, what could be the revenues that are brought to the table? And it's important to note here that there's really two ways for a CID to get revenue. First is through its tax. [1:28:34, 1:28:51]: tax assessments, which is what I'm gonna talk about this slide, but also it takes its money and it leverages it against other grant funds in order to double, to triple, to quadruple its money. That's the magic of a CID because no CID brings enough money to the table to actually [1:28:51, 1:29:06]: Um, build out a ten or twenty or thirty million dollar work program a year. It's just not possible. The name of the game is about using your tax dollars to leverage it into greater sources of funding through local, state, federal grant programs. [1:29:07, 1:29:27]: So what are the tax dollars? What are the revenues that the the Eagles Landing CID could bring? Again, I talked about what could the possible millage rates be. Twenty-five mills on the maximum side would bring in about five point seven million dollars if everybody participated in the CID. [1:29:27, 1:29:42]: That is a highly unlikely scenario, so let me make sure I state that. On the lower end, it could be more of a realistic case where the board chose three mils or five mills, and you can see what that annual millage rate would be there. [1:29:43, 1:29:50]: Like anything else w as it comes to property assessments, as the property values rise and the millage rate [1:29:50, 1:30:10]: remains the same or increases, so does the revenue as well. So don't need to explain that to anybody. Again, I need to reiterate that this assumes 100% participation and that is highly unlikely scenario for a CID to start with 100% of participation, but you can always add members over time. Okay? [1:30:12, 1:30:17]: This is Jonesboro Road. I'm happy to review it if you like, but I can also skip right by it if you like too. [1:30:17, 1:30:37]: Mayor. I would think we need to go forward. Okay. And uh let's do that. Let's focus on the Eagles Landing. Yep. Okay. So evaluation and recommendations. Uh again, let's focus on Eagles Landing, as the Mayor just said. So we did have some positive. This is the pluses are the positives and the minuses are the negatives. We had stakeholders. [1:30:37, 1:30:57]: Stakeholder interest in understanding more about CIDs. Again, this is the first step of introducing the idea to folks, especially those that might be paying into this particular tax assessment. So there was interest there from property owners. You also are gonna have more density in the area as I understand. [1:30:57, 1:31:12]: That density might be in um non-resid non-eligible use, meaning more residential. I understand there could be multifamily on the horizon, but heads and beds also helps to attract more retail and uses that are eligible. [1:31:15, 1:31:35]: Future growth opportunities we just touched on. And um, as I just showed you, there's higher revenue potential in the Eagles Landing area than there is in uh the Jonesboro Road area. Uh to the plus and minus of Eagles Landing, the value proposition exists. Again, road improvements and sidewalks and brand. [1:31:35, 1:31:55]: And those types of things, but it really does require buy-in. Again, we had first touch points with folks, but really getting them uh involved and understanding why I should pay the tax, what is the value proposition, how are my m are my funds going to be used, and is the government going to partner with us to be successful? Are all things [1:31:55, 1:31:56]: That need to be worked out. [1:31:58, 1:32:18]: So recommendations. Um first one is to as I shared with uh Henry County, might be good to focus on one more than the other. Again, I think that Eagles Landing has uh more opportunity than the Jonesboro Road area. So this is a good conversation to introduce you to this topic. [1:32:18, 1:32:19]: Yeah. [1:32:20, 1:32:40]: We might also want to take the boundary lines of the sub-area that we did and broaden it to be more inclusive of some of the growth that's going to be captured in the future. I understand that the Western Parallel Connector is really going to be a growth driver, and it is a good strategic move to try to. [1:32:40, 1:32:54]: get uh property in that isn't yet developed, but knowing that it will be developed because it has um uh that has upside potential to build the CID's capacity and do more good um in the community. [1:32:54, 1:33:14]: Um assess if the target uh if the corridor, in this case Eagle Landing, Eagle's Landing, but assess if the corridor's future growth is really leaning on residential or really leaning on commercial. Again, I just talked about the plus and minuses. Residential but heads and beds is good, but it is non-eligible. Okay, so that's very important. [1:33:14, 1:33:34]: And um the CIDs have now been around for thirty years. They've all started in commercial areas, but they are a they are a mechanism of real estate trends. So back in the eighties, it was exclusively commercial. If you think of Cumberland, that was the CID that I ran. These days it's not [1:33:34, 1:33:42]: You can't have an office without having a multifamily next to it. You've got to have a live work play community, but those properties are. [1:33:42, 1:34:02]: Are not eligible for a CID, which disproportionately can burden the commercial property owners. So all of these are just the nuances that need to be considered and worked out, especially as it relates to gaining buy-in from the property owners. I touched on mixed-use developments. Important to note that as [1:34:02, 1:34:18]: As Stockbridge Henry um develops mixed use uh vertical um projects, the manner in which they're coded by the tax assessor and the tax commissioner are going to be important because if you have ground floor retail. [1:34:19, 1:34:32]: And upper story residential, if that if they are not broken into separate parcel IDs where ground floor retail is captured as C or whatever its particular zoning is, and residential is captured appropriately as R. [1:34:33, 1:34:42]: The ev then everything is going to be ineligible because it has a residential use on it. So very important things to think about strategically as you think about these financing tools. [1:34:43, 1:34:51]: Another um point that was brought to our attention was to and this is more for the county, maybe less for the city, but understand um [1:34:51, 1:35:11]: The cost of development. This slide indicates what's the cost of development in Henry County. I could say what is the cost of development in Stockbridge? Because again, if we are uh adding an additional tax to the developer's cost, then how does uh that compare to neighboring areas? So it's something to keep in mind. [1:35:11, 1:35:12]: Yeah. [1:35:13, 1:35:33]: The last recommendation is to possibly consider a city business improvement district. This is another type of public-private partnership. It's one that's used m more around the rest of the country. Georgia doesn't really use it at all. We use the CID mechanism. But a city uh business improvement district would allow you to do much of the [1:35:33, 1:35:36]: Сейм став, аблі івенмо. [1:35:37, 1:35:57]: With the benefit being that it would allow the assessment to be placed on residential properties and not just commercial properties. Where again a CID, you can't do that. The kicker with the business uh the city BIDs is that they are only allowable in municipalities and in cities. So it it negates everything in an unincorporated area. [1:35:57, 1:36:03]: areas. So if a C I D itself didn't work, then maybe a B I D has some opportunity there as well. [1:36:04, 1:36:15]: So again, that completes my um presentation. And again, it was meant for the county to get them aware of the effort we just did. Uh but your big takeaways are. [1:36:15, 1:36:21]: There's a better opportunity in your corridor. Um I did hear [1:36:22, 1:36:42]: Uh from many of you uh uh at least a year ago that there was an interest in a CID as a tool, as a mechanism for a public-private partnership and economic development. If you're interested, I would be happy to work with you on that. It does take time, uh, because again, you're talking about educating people on the benefits of taxing themselves. [1:36:42, 1:37:02]: themselves, which takes some time and attention, but eventually it goes from a city or a county-led effort to one where the commercial property owner takes on the responsibility of forming the CID and then managing the CID. So with that, I will stop and happy to take any questions. [1:37:02, 1:37:02]: Questions. [1:37:04, 1:37:06]: Good, Mr. Susan. [1:37:06, 1:37:26]: Ma'am, I wanna thank you and I I I walked out because I actually watched the presentation when you made the presentation to the county. And um uh so it is excellent, certainly I believe in everything that you have done. You've done magnificent work um in the Cumberland Galleria area. It certainly is a model. [1:37:26, 1:37:38]: for where we're going and certainly in the discussion that we just had we're just at the infancy of trying to put together signage and stuff like that. And I bet you got those kiosks in the bre [1:37:39, 1:37:59]: I should say I worked with Sky Design on on all of that other referencing they were really good. That mixed use development works for and that's what you do there, right? So we had a visit to Avalon too. But I just like what you said. I do have one question. Let's say as I s conversed with you last year when you emailed us, does I [1:37:59, 1:38:19]: Already a master association in the Eagles Landing area on the residents already. And I think we talked about that. You said you were unaware of that, but you do know that now you are aware of that. So if let's say the city wanted to do the B I D right, which you would technically [1:38:19, 1:38:33]: be uh able to assess the millage on the business and the residents, but then turn around and give the residents a hundred percent homestead homestead to be able to take advantage of the the B ID. [1:38:35, 1:38:43]: Well I suppose that that would be a strategy that that could uh be put together. Uh I [1:38:45, 1:38:52]: I'm not a your legal counsel, so I I can't provide any legal advice on that, but um [1:38:52, 1:39:12]: I think the question becomes as it relates to the who are the who's invested in the corridor, be it a property owner that's commercial use or be it a property owner that's a residential use, what what are what are they aligned on? What are their needs? Whether it's a C I D, whether it's a a B ID, the structure of that [1:39:12, 1:39:32]: That might be informed by what is the value of having an organization that's going to do something. And again, I I've talked more about the structure and the process of a CID right now. I haven't talked too much about the value and what a CID does, which you've alluded to, but it can do [1:39:32, 1:39:52]: s do so much. Um but what what is it? What is the value proposition that those investors, those constituents, again business, property owner, resident, agree to and agree on? And what is the structure that they'd like to see around that? But I think what you're proposing is something that is [1:39:52, 1:40:12]: Probably quite doable. Um and it's just a matter of working through the mechanics of that. Right, because I I rem uh as I recall, the city of Locust Grove did something very similar with their CID, and then they filed a 100% exemption for all of the residents, so there would not be a resident. [1:40:12, 1:40:18]: residential side to that. So they were only uh imposing a millage on the businesses. [1:40:18, 1:40:38]: Yeah, those it by by state constitution, residential doesn't even apply at all. There's no impact to residential other than getting the benefit of what the busin what the pr commercial property owners have are spending their money on. Right, I'm saying they did that with their regular millage. Okay that the state allowed them to assess a one hundred percent exemption. [1:40:38, 1:40:58]: on the regular millage so that residents would not have to be fearful okay of it. So if we decide to do the VID version which has more options available to the city, that's certainly and then as you had mentioned, the Western Parallel Connector is a lot of undeveloped land but uh a lot of undeveloped [1:40:58, 1:41:18]: And I get calls every day because that's my district about doing mix use. And certainly the pro the model mix use that we have done at Argento is the first true mix use, as you see at the battery, where you have the commercial on the bottom and residential. It's very attractive. The young malicious [1:41:18, 1:41:38]: Millennials love it. And certainly trying to go back to the old style of separating that would not be something that I would personally like to see. And if the VID offered us the ability to have some more flexibility in doing that while exempting the residential, uh [1:41:38, 1:41:58]: Again, that's be something the lawyers would have to look at to see whether or not we would be able to do that. But certainly I w I uh that's the model'cause Argento is absolutely everything that we wanted to have. It's reminiscent of Avalon, it's reminiscent of the butcher done at the battery, and that is the template for a lot of what we [1:41:58, 1:42:17]: what we're planning on doing right across the street from City Hall. We certainly don't want to separate that. We want it all to be together because we like that attractive mix uh of where you're trying to go with that. And I think what I saw from the county commissioners were they were leaning forward for the next step. [1:42:17, 1:42:37]: I think I certainly would like to be in the position to lean forward uh for the next step to see what is next and what we could do. Cause every time I get off that expressway exit and G Dot hasn't and it's the forty-fifth or the fifth forty-fifth day right before they get ready to cut it and the grass is tall and it's litter everywhere. [1:42:37, 1:42:57]: I think about man would I love to have a CID right here containing these areas and then doing uh extra benefit. You know, I know that talking with Mr. McDowell down on the south side, they have actual security that they actually have involved into it. This is a lot of components and tools. [1:42:57, 1:43:17]: tools in the tools box that would be allowed for us. So again, kudos on the work that you're doing. Uh I'm glad that we have you on the team, some one of the best people in Georgia to be able to work on this. I just want to give you my wholehearted support and say let us know what the next steps are. So I I certainly would like to move forward. Yeah. [1:43:18, 1:43:20]: Any other questions from the council? [1:43:20, 1:43:30]: I have one. Go right here, please. I'll have two. Um where so the here we can exha if if the C I D is approved by the owners, the majority of the owners, where would the [1:43:30, 1:43:32]: With the tax uh [1:43:32, 1:43:35]: Commission be collecting those revenues? [1:43:36, 1:43:56]: That's exactly right. Um, the owners need to provide written consent. Um, it's always a jigsaw puzzle till the last minute putting the CID boundary together. This is just to start the CID, it can certainly evolve over time. Uh the tax commissioner certifies the district, makes sure it has met the minimum requirements. Um [1:43:56, 1:44:12]: You all would pass a resolution that actually uh creates the CID at that point. Uh the board is constituted, they choose the millage rate, report it up to the Department of Revenue like any taxing authority, and then the tax commissioner. [1:44:12, 1:44:25]: Um is the one who uh uh commissioner's office is the one that collects the taxes. So on a property a commercial property owner's tax bill, it will indicate that tax district number and the millage rate that was chosen. [1:44:25, 1:44:38]: And that mileage rate will include their fee, the tax commissioner's collection fee. They can that. They can collect up uh they can receive an administrative fee up to I believe it's twenty five thousand a year. Okay. And in addition to that [1:44:38, 1:44:45]: the military, uh for instance at the battery, what did they end up doing? The owners end up [1:44:45, 1:45:05]: What what was their average millish rate? Was it the lowest? Because it doesn't seem like a whole lot if you're looking at like the three mills, you're only getting you're not even getting a million bucks. Yeah, six hundred thousand is hard. With that's a it's not I I know a CID that started with thirty thousand dollars, but they they had a very specific targeted use for that. If you are a what I would call a community [1:45:05, 1:45:15]: facing C I D, like a district facing you want more financial capacity than that. Right. But the idea is to take that six hundred and and leverage it against something greater. But [1:45:15, 1:45:35]: Uh you asked me the about the battery. So I ran the Cumberland CID from um nineteen ninety-six through twenty eighteen, and then you know, uh we saw all of we saw uh many years of real estate stagnation, let me say, and then the bat the the the Braves announced and that just kind of made everything [1:45:35, 1:45:55]: Explode. Throughout that period, that CID uh took the position of we are going to approve our maximum allowable millage rate, which in Cobb County was five mils, and that's very typical for most counties to max it at five. Henry County allows for 25. Um, but there are a some couple CIDs. [1:45:55, 1:46:15]: IDs, again, they're a sort of a special case, but they they do uh go upwards of 25 mils. But that five mils was continuously reinvested to into the community, and it allowed for a lot of investment in public um uh public improvements that helped to attract the Braves. [1:46:16, 1:46:36]: After about three years that that CID dropped its millage rate down a m a point to about four mills'cause they wanted to take a breath and kind of reassess what the next ten year work program would be and not over tax because there's also other financing mechanisms that help to pay pay for the Brave Stadium. [1:46:36, 1:46:38]: Two SSDs among them. [1:46:39, 1:46:55]: Gotcha. Okay. So their max was five mills, but ours is up to twenty five. Is there a su is a is there a law that you're aware of that caps what the mills are for CID? The state allows up to twenty five mills. Henry County's local act also allows up to twenty five mills. [1:46:56, 1:47:16]: Okay. All right. It doesn't mean the board is gonna choose twenty five mills because that's a that's a lot. Yeah, that I can't see an owner doing that. But if they did, that's great too. But I I can't see that. Every year the board, like any taxing authority, um, has to choose its millage rate. So every year every CID chooses, the board selects its [1:47:16, 1:47:36]: It's millage rate. The Shamley Doraville CID has been at five mils. It's a maximum allowable in DeCab County since its inception over the past five years. And just for the public, this is not us talking about we're taxing anyone. Just please know that we're not going to be able to tax anyone. This is if they want it to if the business owners want it to. [1:47:36, 1:47:56]: To tax themselves. That was totally up to them. But I just um I for educational purposes, thank you so much for the information that you provided today. That's really eye-opening. I hope that the owners see the benefit in this and that they see the you know to beautify that area and it as it continues to grow. [1:47:56, 1:48:04]: Um I j I just I hope that they I hope it goes through. I hope it works out great for the county and for the city of Stockbridge. [1:48:05, 1:48:17]: Appreciate the presentation wholeheartedly. So it's good information here. Anybody from this side? Any other comments? Yes. Um thank you again for the presentation, but I I I heard that you said the requirement from this council was simply just a resolution. [1:48:17, 1:48:25]: I guess but my question is trying to get a grasp on or an understanding around it is is there any lifts or anything that we would have to do [1:48:25, 1:48:45]: surrounding um galvanizing the commer c uh the property owners, the the prop the business owners. And then if so, what do those efforts look like? And then how does all of this um unfold for us? Yeah, great question. And uh I should clarify that the process that I articulated that you noted, that's simply the mechanic [1:48:45, 1:48:47]: Yeah. [1:48:47, 1:48:55]: There certainly would be a an entire collaboration among the commercial property owners and the government. [1:48:55, 1:48:59]: Initially as there is a uh [1:49:00, 1:49:20]: Education, whether that's six months, a year, you know, I I I don't know. I don't know the community as well as you do. Um but but the right now at this stage one it's a safe bet to say that it's not the commercial property owners that are coming to me or you asking for a CID. They are not driving this cause. [1:49:19, 1:49:27]: It is the government. First, Henry County, and and now you have expressed interest in it. So I would [1:49:29, 1:49:49]: I would posture that if the city wants a CID and sees value in this tool, you will need to drive the effort. We can figure out what that what that means. But once it's formed, then you really get to work. Because again, the CID is a financing mechanism and provides advertising. [1:49:48, 1:49:56]: Advocacy and is a conduit for you into what the property owners need to be economically healthy. [1:49:56, 1:49:57]: Um but [1:49:57, 1:50:03]: The CIE doesn't can't improve anything because it doesn't own anything, so it has to work. [1:50:03, 1:50:10]: with the facility owner. So that means if it's a city road or a city trail or you know, whatever the property is. [1:50:10, 1:50:17]: Um or if it's state owned by Georgia D. O.T. or i whatever the case is. I'll give you a practical [1:50:17, 1:50:30]: application if you will that I think might be helpful. Let's just take, you know, trails. I heard uh I heard you talk about trails. Um y you as a city are are probably have master plan this whole community identified an entire trail plan. [1:50:30, 1:50:38]: Put it into different segments, do a cost estimate around it. That a CID could help if the CID wanted, if that was of value to them. [1:50:39, 1:50:57]: Could be a partner to you in the table either by driving that effort or supporting you in that effort of development. The CID could also bring dollars to the table, which would help you build your funding stack for segments of that trail component. The CID, depending on w who you had as [1:50:58, 1:51:01]: staff or advisors or you know professional experience [1:51:02, 1:51:05]: could bring their wealth of knowledge in understanding, okay. [1:51:06, 1:51:24]: I've got, you know, some city dollars here, CID dollars here, there's a uh state grant program here, there's a federal grant program here, and we're gonna put together the entire strategy and execute that strategy for you. Again, these are just examples of how CIDs operate, but but still practical applications nonetheless. [1:51:26, 1:51:46]: How long do you think it would take? I know you said sometimes it can range anywhere from two years to six years to get the ball rolling, but in in your professional expertise, what what do you foresee with the district and the area and the space that we have on this Eagle Land Eagles Landing corridor? How how [1:51:46, 1:51:55]: How what's your projection or your professional projection on what you would think it would take time wise and then staff wise for us, what what level of investment from the city? [1:51:56, 1:52:09]: Uh I I wish I could answer that with some certainty. Um part and I say that because I hovered more at a macro level during last year during the course of this effort. [1:52:11, 1:52:15]: I I think it's measured more in a couple in years as opposed to a couple of months. [1:52:16, 1:52:21]: Uh uh here and here's something to think about as you think about the timeline of CID formation. [1:52:22, 1:52:28]: You have to work backwards from the state's specific schedules. So if taxing authorities need to [1:52:28, 1:52:40]: Um uh send their millage rates by July or whatever it is to Department of Revenue, you have to work backwards in time, which means that the CID needs to be in legal existence. [1:52:40, 1:52:41]: And select its millage rate. [1:52:42, 1:52:53]: which means that you all have to approve it, which means that the the tax commissioner needs to provide uh certification, which means consent forms. So you work backwards from there, but all of that is to say that [1:52:54, 1:53:14]: It's cyclical. You can only form or expand a CID essentially in the springtime because of those legal benchmarks that I just stated. You can't just form it anytime. I guess you could, but then you'd have to wait till the next text cycle. So, you know, spring is usually uh your as as you think. [1:53:14, 1:53:15]: Think about an approach. [1:53:16, 1:53:26]: gearing up to hit your legal benchmarks in spring. Now here it is July, June, July of um one year. You are not gonna form a CID. [1:53:26, 1:53:34]: by spring of twenty six, and probably not by spring of twenty seven. That's that's the best answer I can give you right now. [1:53:37, 1:53:37]: Mm-hmm. [1:53:37, 1:53:49]: Okay. So our next steps would be to say we're we're interested like we're interested in this obviously. And I know you explained some things earlier, but uh this aspect uh [1:53:50, 1:53:50]: So [1:53:50, 1:54:06]: Is there a cost affiliated with us? Yeah, I would imagine there to is there some type of contract or something like finan financial aspect as well. No, I I uh you know, I'm I'm a professional consultant and and and if I was engaged then yes there would be. Uh uh my s recommendation or suggestion to you is to [1:54:06, 1:54:26]: uh uh circle back with the county. Um Tucson probably is is has been my contact or or or the city manager and indicate that you've seen it, you're interested and how can you and the county m perhaps collaborate on advancing one. So that that would be my request. That's a good point. That's a good point. Yes sir. [1:54:26, 1:54:46]: Okay, certainly um I want to point this out and I think this is very important. I think it's twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen we actually did pass a resolution here, a generate one, encouraging the business community to form a CID because we were very interested in doing that. Uh Commissioner Robinson. [1:54:46, 1:55:06]: was now was then Councilwoman Robinson. And we passed that here on the board. So we are are in league with what they're trying to do and she's trying to push it uh on their side as well as the rest of the commissioners here. So it's very important to us that, you know, certainly they've employed you. We certainly tried to form a [1:55:06, 1:55:26]: CID on Highway 138. I think we just didn't have quite the effort that we needed in order to make that happen. Thus Lee, they employed you to look into it, who's uh who is uh uh very best at it. And uh maybe we'll circle back to Highway 138 once we get this one done. [1:55:26, 1:55:46]: And then uh look in that direction. But certainly the city has been uh moving in that direction. And again, we did pass a generic resolution encouraging the businesses to form it. But certainly we know we have to do our part and as understood, uh should we bring you aboard. [1:55:46, 1:56:00]: you would be doing a lot putting a plan together for us uh along with the county in order to execute it in order to try to make things happen with your expertise. Is that what would what that's what would be expected if we did and decide to bring you on. [1:56:01, 1:56:15]: Uh I think that that uh structures it and then we can work through what um what the details are around that, yes. I was just wondering here about the resolution. That was one thirty eight. This is Eagles Land, it might have to be a different resolution though. [1:56:16, 1:56:36]: My my understanding is that there was an effort a few years ago with with another firm. Yes, correct. On one thirty yeah, that was for one thirty. On the on that particular one. There was two efforts. The one thirty eight effort was maybe like a year and a half ago, maybe two years, but the resolution that we passed was like twenty seventeen or twenty eight. [1:56:36, 1:56:38]: eighteen it was for the whole city. [1:56:39, 1:56:55]: And uh as you think about it, keep in mind that the sub area boundaries we drew that you may think that those are correct, you may think that they're incorrect. Either way, it's a matter of um just just targeting the areas that you think are most important. Thank you, appreciate it. Good information. Thank you very much. Appreciate you. [1:56:56, 1:57:02]: Okay. New business. Council consideration to approve the FY twenty twenty four budget amendment. Mr. Malazi, please. [1:57:56, 1:58:00]: [7080.9, 7081.8]: To move. [1:58:03, 1:58:04]: Make it big. [1:58:20, 1:58:20]: Yes, to feel. [1:58:37, 1:58:38]: She's [1:58:59, 1:59:02]: Doesn't really slider. It doesn't do a slider. [1:59:04, 1:59:08]: But does it fit in? It has to fit in. [1:59:10, 1:59:11]: It's not easy. [1:59:11, 1:59:12]: Yeah. [1:59:16, 1:59:21]: We would unit to say. [1:59:46, 1:59:48]: With the ones that we were talking about. [1:59:52, 1:59:55]: Are you set, sir? You set, ready to go? [1:59:58, 2:00:08]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening, sir. Um be f in case I'll forget, I have two presentations. Both of my two presentations will need your actions. [2:00:09, 2:00:09]: Okay. [2:00:10, 2:00:25]: And that will be to adopt or to approve what I'm going to present. The first one will be budget amendment. Okay. And budget amendment, this is 2024 budget. Okay. We already spent money. Okay. Um [2:00:27, 2:00:43]: Why we are doing budget amendment because it's only the council that has got authority to allocate spending, not even the city manager has that authority. See the council has the authority to allocate the funding. [2:00:44, 2:00:48]: And it's only the council that can move money from one fund to the other. [2:00:49, 2:00:57]: Once it has been allocated, we can move around. That's we call uh adjustments or transfers. Okay. Within the fund. [2:00:59, 2:01:09]: up to what has been allocated. But what we have been doing, uh I'm putting myself as the staff and management [2:01:10, 2:01:16]: We have not followed those procedures over the years and we have really [2:01:18, 2:01:22]: not being honest. We have let [2:01:24, 2:01:30]: our elected officials down and above all we have uh let down our citizen. [2:01:32, 2:01:39]: So what I'm doing here is to look into areas of the uh budget [2:01:40, 2:01:47]: where we had non budgeted because it was not budgeted but we spent which we call non budgeted spending. [2:01:48, 2:01:49]: And the [2:01:51, 2:02:10]: The next presentation will be a way of correcting these mistakes that we have been written up by our federal funding. And it comes from this side. So we are trying to correct those kind of practice we have been doing. [2:02:12, 2:02:24]: There are some areas we didn't budget. We have to amend that we spent non-budgeted. There are some areas that our projections went [2:02:25, 2:02:41]: where far, either our projections were way be below or our projections were way up, so we have to amend to get into uh acceptable within the framework of where it's supposed to be. [2:02:46, 2:02:48]: I will start with the General Fund. [2:02:49, 2:03:03]: A general fund with department heads, there are some areas that we spent, but overall general fund we at the end of it, these are all revenues. I'll start with the revenues. So the whole of this area is revenues. [2:03:07, 2:03:08]: Up to [2:03:10, 2:03:30]: This total revenues for this is for twenty uh twenty twenty four. Total revenues were uh twenty nine million one hundred and five four hundred and seventy eight. This is adjusted or amended from what was the originally adopted, which was twenty six. [2:03:30, 2:03:37]: six million seven hundred and eleven six hundred and thirty five. So we are adjusting to that. [2:03:38, 2:03:47]: that twenty nine million is the right amount. In that twenty nine you may see that there is almost three million. [2:03:48, 2:04:00]: Depending on how the auditors allocated that, that may not be twenty nine, the three million may be adjusted because that is to do with the uh insurance premiums. [2:04:00, 2:04:08]: Depending on what time it comes, that may be of the previous year twenty twenty three, but if they had already uh [2:04:09, 2:04:13]: assigned that, then that twenty nine million will be actual. [2:04:13, 2:04:25]: So there may be a change after the audit depending on how they um offset that. Is it for the previous year or is it for twenty twenty four? [2:04:26, 2:04:41]: But the way it is, it looks like it will stay there twenty twenty four. So if that's the case, that means we went over what we projected from twenty six million to twenty nine million. Okay. Then they are or move to our expenses. [2:04:43, 2:04:53]: Uh you see the first column on the left side is what we project uh that's what we adopted and the blue column, wherever it's blue, that's where the adjustments are to be made. [2:04:55, 2:05:01]: I'll go to general fund uh to expenses uh and on expenses we start with the governing body. [2:05:05, 2:05:25]: Then we have the city clerk, then it goes executive finance and all those departments. You find out that some they have spent way more than what was adopted. And we have to offset that. We have to either where they have spent less, where they have spent more, we have to allocate more. [2:05:25, 2:05:32]: more to make sure that they are spending within the uh adopted budget, in this case within the amended budget. [2:05:35, 2:05:36]: And the total [2:05:37, 2:05:50]: spend uh expenditure on the government side, you see departments, each one of those, but I want to just go over and see the total expenditure. [2:05:57, 2:06:00]: Our total expenditure will be [2:06:02, 2:06:06]: twenty six million two hundred and seven thousand. [2:06:07, 2:06:12]: Twenty six million two a hundred and seven, four hundred and sixty nine. [2:06:14, 2:06:28]: That's a you see it's twenty six million versus the twenty nine million of our revenues. So there's that three million I was talking about, and that one is specifically for uh insurance, premium premium insurance. [2:06:29, 2:06:49]: Then we have other funds. Some funds you find out that the amount is not much depending on how much we have received or we have not received. So confiscated assets, depending if anything happened during that time. Then we have property and evidence. Then we have other. [2:06:49, 2:06:57]: Those other funds, grant funds. On the grant side of it, you find out that we have more spending. [2:06:59, 2:07:19]: Some areas we have more spending than what we budgeted for or we anticipated to receive because we have not received everything. Because most the almost all of our funds our grants is we spend, then we we are reburst. Draw down, we have to draw down. And draw down is contingent only we have [2:07:19, 2:07:39]: Provided the reports that are required according to the requirements of the grant that we signed with them. So if we have not met those requirements, they may not release funds. As of now, we have more than 500,000 of 2024 that we have not drawn down. [2:07:39, 2:07:59]: We just finished uh working with the DOJ. Last week we had two um one on site and the other one was online to finalize what we are owing them, what requirements they needed us to do. So it went well. [2:07:59, 2:08:16]: well very well. The audits went well, both of them. So we will start having our drawdown. That 500 plus thousand we already spent it, but we need to bring it back to get into our general fund. [2:08:21, 2:08:41]: Uh then there's hotel motel. I'll just be picking up, I'll not be talking each and every fund. Hotel motel, uh what we budgeted three hundred and seventy-five thousand, but as you see, we got more than one million. So with that we can't live at three hundred and seventy-five thousand as the projected receipt. [2:08:41, 2:08:58]: seats, we have to adjust. It's more than three times of what we projected. So that's what amendment is all about. If it's more, you have to amend to to increase. If it's we we got less, we'd have also amended to make sure it's in line with what actually we got. [2:09:01, 2:09:15]: Uh then we have uh sp sip and um T S plus, as you know that we have Splash one, two, three, four, five. Now we are six. There are some that we are still receiving. [2:09:15, 2:09:17]: Uh five we are still receiving. [2:09:17, 2:09:20]: And even though the projects finished [2:09:20, 2:09:37]: We have money still coming in. That money may not be assigned to the uh projects because the time the projects were being done, we are using general fund. So we have to reimburse general fund for those that money that is coming now, those projects that are finished. [2:09:37, 2:09:56]: Okay, stop for a second. To do that, do we you need our proof to do that? You're just automatically gonna do that. I will report everything. Okay, okay. I I will report I will actually like tomorrow I'll be sending you how much money is in each one of those. Periodically I'll be letting you know how much are in those accounts. I just updated this afternoon. [2:09:57, 2:09:57]: Okay. [2:09:58, 2:10:18]: I'm not sure what you're saying. Can you repeat that? You're saying that these are expenses for projects that we've already done and that basically we borrowed the money from us so that when the SPLAS rolls in, the these funds roll once these funds roll in, we pay that back. Is that what you're saying? A good example is SPLAS six. Now Splassi [2:10:18, 2:10:22]: Six, we are about just to receive money. [2:10:22, 2:10:25]: However, we have uh borrowed money. [2:10:25, 2:10:30]: One we say we need to have a public workshop. [2:10:30, 2:10:30]: Mm-hmm. [2:10:30, 2:10:34]: That's we have already one point seven million. [2:10:35, 2:10:39]: then we need the public works vehicles six hundred thousand. [2:10:40, 2:10:41]: then we need to [2:10:42, 2:10:44]: We have already given out almost. [2:10:44, 2:10:46]: three point three milijun. [2:10:47, 2:10:51]: When that money comes in, it will replace where we have taken it from. [2:10:51, 2:10:56]: So there are some areas like public facilities. [2:10:56, 2:10:59]: Ви фінш да проєкт. [2:11:00, 2:11:20]: But there were still some money that were there, about three hundred and something thousand. That money directly it will go to general fund. That is supposed to be zero. So even though there's money there, the usage of that fund is done, is completed. Yes, ma'am. [2:11:23, 2:11:30]: So when we had the meetings and we funded these, we were told that the money was there for the project. [2:11:30, 2:11:47]: in that particular spLost, whatever splas that was. It could have been SLOBOS four. We had sploss four left. We had some of splos five left. We even had a couple of things in splots w it could have been three. It could have been three, four, five, whatever the case may have been. Are you saying [2:11:48, 2:11:49]: That [2:11:51, 2:11:56]: Other money was borrowed from there. Here's my question. Should this have come to mayor and council? [2:11:57, 2:12:09]: Because we didn't receive we didn't have not one meeting. No one has ever come to us and said, This is where the money is gonna be taken from. We've always been told [2:12:09, 2:12:13]: When when we get a someone comes and presents [2:12:13, 2:12:17]: Part of their presentation is where the money's coming from. [2:12:17, 2:12:29]: And it's usually from a spLOS that uh has that is already there, a past sploss, that the money's still sitting there outstanding. So where did that money go? [2:12:29, 2:12:33]: Some idiot and why didn't we well you wouldn't know because you weren't our treasurer. [2:12:34, 2:12:37]: Or n nor were you our city manager. [2:12:37, 2:12:42]: But those things, any type of movement like that, has to come before Mayor Council. Am I wrong? [2:12:43, 2:12:47]: There is no aroc arocation that can be done. [2:12:49, 2:12:55]: No one has authority to allocate, no one has authority to move from one fund to the other besides council. [2:12:56, 2:12:57]: And that hasn't happened. [2:12:58, 2:13:02]: We have let you down, I said that. We have not been honest. [2:13:05, 2:13:10]: But uh let's see we know now what can we do going forward. [2:13:12, 2:13:30]: Madam Clerk, do you have any records of any amendments besides the one amendment request the one time that I can recall within the past four years for an amendment to any of our budgets? [2:13:31, 2:13:42]: Okay, so four years would take you to twenty twenty one. I can say yes, you likely had amendments in twenty twenty one. There have no been [2:13:42, 2:13:52]: No amendment except for the five hundred thousand brought to the council for twenty twenty two, twenty-three, or twenty four. [2:13:53, 2:14:02]: So from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four, we had no request for amendments except for one time for five hundred thousand dollars. [2:14:05, 2:14:09]: Wes I can tell you what was approved by the body. [2:14:09, 2:14:15]: Okay. And so if there aren't any amendments from that time frame. [2:14:16, 2:14:18]: Then no money should have been moved to [2:14:20, 2:14:21]: From any [2:14:21, 2:14:27]: account, is that correct? That they're basically saying that they had the funding for those those items. [2:14:27, 2:14:37]: Money can be moved as I have done, I have moved, but you need to know because the moving them I've done but I've not even put in the system until you approve it. [2:14:38, 2:14:41]: So we w they would have had to come before Mayor Council, but that did not happen. [2:14:42, 2:14:48]: That's where I say we have let you down and we have let down the citizen of this city. [2:14:48, 2:14:49]: Okay, thank you. [2:14:53, 2:14:59]: Uh then there's the three twenty which is this plus five funding. [2:15:00, 2:15:05]: Um I'll I'll go and get maybe [2:15:09, 2:15:15]: URA URA everything on URA is paying the debt. So we have funding in there. [2:15:17, 2:15:21]: We allocate money to pay what we owe. [2:15:26, 2:15:46]: Then I'll have uh citywide downtown development. We are talking there we have allocations of forty five thousand, each one of them. And sometimes we have some expenses, you find out some there it's coming up to forty five, uh budgeted at forty five, but there's forty eight, five, forty six because there may be some [2:15:46, 2:16:06]: Some expenses that we they didn't reimburse us. We paid it, so it comes to 45 and 40 48. So there's additional three plus thousand. That's actual. Then you found the other one instead of forty-five, uh, there's only forty-nine ninety-eight. That means by that time the year we had not. [2:16:05, 2:16:25]: given them the forty five forty-five thousand that he was uh allocated to them several ways. Maybe we decided we will no longer give them or we have to give them, but it was budgeted we are supposed to give them. Unless council says don't give them anymore. [2:16:31, 2:16:33]: А паблик фасилі авторіти з [2:16:35, 2:16:53]: That one is again we spent uh we spent that's much of the um activities the incoming and what we budgeted, if they are not in line, then we have to make those adjustments. [2:16:57, 2:17:17]: Then we get into um enterprise funds that is to do with water. We have water, sewer, sanitation, all those ones. And on sanitation, you may see there is a uh lazy maybe shortfall of revenues on sanitation. Sanitation, you know, you need to know that it's tax. [2:17:17, 2:17:37]: So it's build and when it comes it comes red. So sanitation is always for the other year, for the following year. It's uh unearned revenues. So it comes red but the auditors will have to move. So even if there's nothing, it will still come. So it's go ahead, sir. So let's go back to [2:17:37, 2:17:57]: the public facilities authority. Yes. Okay, the public facility authority actually financed the amphitheater for us, correct? Through the bonding process. They did the municipal project for us. So the payments as we always talk about the amphitheater will be paid off this year. Okay. Are being facilitated. That's how the payments are being facilitated. [2:17:57, 2:18:17]: That is through the public facilities authority. And that's where that$2.7 million that you indicated there is. And so that paying down the balance so they will be paid off by this uh August, right? So those that that$2.7 million is paying off the balance on what [2:18:17, 2:18:22]: what we owed on that bond. So that bond will be finished in August of this year, correct? [2:18:23, 2:18:32]: That is correct, but this is for that is for t twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five August will be paying off principal as well as interest. [2:18:32, 2:18:52]: Right, right. So this is but but a l all along we've had to make those payments for the last three years or or since we took out the bond, we have to make those payments yearly from the general fund, correct? That is correct. Okay, so I just so everybody understands when we initially financed the amphitheater we did that and look [2:18:52, 2:19:12]: Luckily, we were able to do that at a time when interest rates were historically low. And we got some of the lowest interest rates ever. Of course, if you're out there trying to buy a home now, you know that that is not the case. So by doing that at that time, we were able to take out a bond for$7 billion to pay off. [2:19:12, 2:19:32]: the remainder of the amphitheater uh to uh the the the balance for the amphitheater at a very low interest rate. We're also able to take our three million dollars to start up the police department initial funds and then a million dollars for uh multi-use trails. So uh you know in front of [2:19:32, 2:19:52]: Financial stewardship sometimes is taking advantage of those times and the economic conditions. Because if today we were borrowing those dollars post pandemic, the inflationary costs on the S um the Amphitheater would probably be above thirty million dollars right now as it [2:19:52, 2:20:12]: as a gig as a good guess. And the post pandemic cost in terms of labor and in terms of materials and everything that were put into it, that timing kind of was a was a great was a good thing for us because uh it saved us millions of dollars uh in the process. [2:20:12, 2:20:32]: And certainly subsequent to that, there were some financial missteps and some financial, uh, as you said, letdowns, because as Ms. Gantt has indicated, there was a number of opportunities between 2022 and this date where uh I'm disappointed. [2:20:31, 2:20:51]: that staff did not wasn't more forthright in being pre your joining the council, correct or joining the city. You've done the invest you've done the research. You put the numbers together that we truly needed to see during [2:20:51, 2:21:11]: Those times. So let me condemn commend you for going and doing the research. You've been doing the research since the day you joined the city, and it's been painstaking. It's been out of the public eye. A lot of it has not been uh something that we've uh that we knew that we were looking into, and we had to come to the [2:21:11, 2:21:31]: point where we knew the right questions to ask. And by reviewing the information, we were able to determine and to look in the places that we needed to look to understand what the true finances really look like versus some of the things that we were actually presented with in the past. [2:21:31, 2:21:51]: So kudos to you for just hours on end of exhaustive research and putting together going back long before you arrived in 2022 and 2023 actually recreating that information so that we would have accurate information. [2:21:51, 2:22:11]: inform information to review and some of those k numbers frankly have been very shocking. Uh as you have indicated, you know, with this particular projection, this will be in excess of four million dollars in 2024. It's painstaking to see that number and to understand, you know [2:22:11, 2:22:31]: some of the projections that we saw with PLs that indicated that uh we were doing we were balancing out for those concerts. Some of them we made a little money, some of them we didn't. Those PLs don't uh appear to be related to reality or fact in any way uh at this point. [2:22:31, 2:22:51]: And that's because of the exhaustive research that you have done. And I want to commend you first of all, as uh in addition to that, and the recommendations that you made back in February. You made solid recommendations where the finance department would actually take over uh the stewardship of paying the city. [2:22:51, 2:23:11]: Vendors. You made the recommendation that all vendors be vetted through the internally versus externally, and we implemented those procedures. We didn't yell them out in the public about what we did. We just did it. You've been executing along that line since February. [2:23:11, 2:23:31]: And when we got to the point where we are now where we are actually close to the budgetary numbers, you sounded the alarm, correct? You said, council, as you were supposed to do. That should have happened in 2022. That should have happened in 2023. That should have happened in 2024. [2:23:31, 2:23:51]: Before it did not, and now we're having to go back and retroactively make the adjustments because the city procedure and policy is very clear as you have stated. Any adjustments, in addition to the$50,000 limit that is granted to the city manager, are supposed to come to the city manager. [2:23:51, 2:24:11]: City Council. That did not happen. But as you have demonstrated the proper process of how and to do it, that's why we're here today, right? Because you are stating this is what needs to happen, these amendments need to happen, but your pre the the previous staff did not do that. And that's why you indicated [2:24:11, 2:24:15]: [8655.3, 8656.3]: Thank you so much. [2:24:20, 2:24:24]: That's water soa. Uh then we have uh [2:24:26, 2:24:27]: Storm water. [2:24:31, 2:24:41]: Sorry, West. Everything again that you see in blue is to be corrected or amended. [2:24:48, 2:25:05]: Then this is a summary of all the funds. So I have gone from general fund every fund, then there's a summary here, revenue, expenses, revenue, expenses, up to the end. And I wanted to point out we have two that we designated. I think that [2:25:06, 2:25:08]: That was not awesome. [2:25:10, 2:25:11]: Councilwoman Gantt, you have a question? [2:25:12, 2:25:18]: Well, you just said everything in blue is the corrections. So I'm looking at the amended, that's the one who amended. [2:25:18, 2:25:38]: But I'm looking at like even the revenues. Why would they be are they corrections? Are they just the fact that we actually had more revenue than we expected? So for instance, the total budget of revenue expected was$26 million, eleven dollars, six hundred seven hundred and eleven thousand dollars [2:25:38, 2:25:58]: thousand six hundred and thirty five dollars and ninety two cents. But as of today, we've collected denied twenty nine thousand twenty nine million yes one hundred and eighty seven three forty one forty one. Right this crazy so wa wait a minute. So in in regards to that we're at a surplus right now of two point six [2:25:58, 2:26:03]: 2.8, yeah. Okay, so 2.8. Right now, well it says two point six on here, but two point eight. Yes. [2:26:04, 2:26:07]: Why is that something that has to be corrected? [2:26:08, 2:26:28]: in regards to the revenues. So those revenues you are s talking about, I mentioned about the three million, depending on how you designate that three may not be, maybe twenty six if they designate it that it was for the previous year. But leave it just as it is. We have extra three million. I gave you [2:26:27, 2:26:30]: An example of uh [2:26:31, 2:26:46]: hotel motel, we budgeted for three hundred and seventy-five thousand and we got uh one point one million. If you get into percentage is that is almost three four thousand percentage. [2:26:47, 2:27:05]: That's not okay. Well, it wouldn't be okay if it was expenditures, but it's o it looks great as a revenue. It does. Because what it says is that we were not expecting it. It it it does. It would'cause I wasn't expecting a new hotel that's gonna be coming my way. So now I'm gonna have [2:27:06, 2:27:10]: Instead of the two that we got now and well three. [2:27:10, 2:27:30]: We're gonna have three plus a possible, hopefully we have four if we get the other one off the ground, right? Exactly. So we weren't expecting though that new hotel to come, and it is. So it sounds well there, but when you get it to expenses. Expenses is a problem. Yes. But the revenues here are more s a lot of them are are kinda like. They did very well. They did very well. [2:27:30, 2:27:32]: So it'll allow us to see. [2:27:33, 2:27:44]: You know, this is what we usually get and look at the growth. I I would much rather see that in the revenue side. I don't think this is as much tweaked because it's showing our growth in the city. [2:27:45, 2:28:05]: As compared to w when we get to those corrections in the expenditure side. That's my biggest concern. But it helps us again next year when we are doing projections, we have to project the correct amount. Correct. We should never project three seventy five thousand hotel motel when we know that we got one point something million. And with that it's not just [2:28:04, 2:28:17]: At one point, you talk about tourism is going up. So you you have a lot to talk about within each and every line item. That's the reason why sometimes you have to make those adjustments. [2:28:18, 2:28:21]: When you make another, like now twenty twenty six [2:28:22, 2:28:37]: Twenty twenty twenty six we prepare a budget, our project four hundred thousand, you ask me, but actual it shows you got one million, why four hundred? Okay. And there are some where made up exp revenues just to make up for expenses. [2:28:38, 2:28:49]: I'll give you an example we had male mandoras that you we budgeted for seven hundred and thirty-two thousand revenues. Guess how much we got? Hundred and forty eight thousand. [2:28:50, 2:28:50]: Okay. [2:28:51, 2:29:07]: So even though we we knew that we are we will never get into three hundred, four hundred. So we have to make those changes. Then we also have to ask why did we designate it as a an enterprise when we know that it will not [2:29:08, 2:29:21]: be self sufficient. Correct. Because that conference center and amp theater we designated them as the enterprise, meaning that they will be self supporting. Yeah no. Which they will never, never n [2:29:21, 2:29:23]: Not any of those will will. [2:29:24, 2:29:43]: No, the Mermanders won't nor will the empathetic. Exactly. And that's history throughout. I we went on the convention this past week and I believe every single city says the same thing. They're not there for that purpose. No. And so we're aware that they're not there for that purpose. But uh that I understand us putting it in the twenty twenty [2:29:43, 2:29:44]: Six budget. [2:29:45, 2:30:00]: for the expectation of where we are now with collecting for a hotel motel tax. Because now they are actually there. We can project those numbers. But for these numbers here, it shows that growth potential. And that that was my biggest concern. Why would we do that? So I get it. Thank you. [2:30:02, 2:30:22]: Yeah, and hotel motel could be utilized to supplement the amphitheater itself. It could be if we deserve that. Ho hotel motel, yes it could be visitors are coming. Hotel motel, there's a lot of business, there's a lot of m some new hotel hotels or motels are. Um people are coming to spend money here. They are. [2:30:22, 2:30:42]: And and and it's economic driver for what what we did here. Mr. Alexander, go ahead, please. Let me be very careful'cause I was in the a municipal taxation class. Any of that fund, some of that can go general fund, but in the restricted, it has to be tourism. Absolutely. It cannot be just spent so we want to m [2:30:42, 2:31:02]: Make sure nobody uh interprets it uh as that way. So um Another example we have funded uh four ninety-five that cemetery we provided there ten thousand and we only spent seven hundred, I think mowing and others. It will so there's no need of us leaving ten thousand. [2:31:02, 2:31:05]: and when we know that we didn't spend even five one thousand. [2:31:05, 2:31:15]: Wha what really concerns me though with that three hundred and seventy five number is it looks as though we did not take in consideration the annexation at all. [2:31:16, 2:31:36]: And that we brought in the Holiday Inn and that we brought in these other entities in the annexation. So that number should have been upped. And it it it qu it makes you question how did we totally not uh accommod uh not have any type of projection. [2:31:36, 2:31:56]: By going to the county to see what the previous revenue was for the hotels that were annexed into the city. And it puts you in this predicament where we got to go up and down. This category is up, that category is down. In balancing the books overall, Ms. Gann asked a great question. It does show you. [2:31:56, 2:32:10]: a great a big surplus. But some of that big surplus was cause that three seventy five was significantly under budgeted as you guys are two point five percent off, two point five percent. Right. I mean [2:32:10, 2:32:15]: Two hundred and fifty percent, I'm sorry. Two hundred and fifty percent. So [2:32:15, 2:32:35]: Those are the kind of things that going forward, uh, that we expect those numbers to be accurate going forward. And that's what you're doing. You're setting the template, and you will use these numbers to forecast going forward and league with whomever we select as the new city manager for the budget to be. [2:32:35, 2:32:55]: Uh an accurate picture of where we're going so that this exercise is not necessary on a yearly basis going forward, correct? Substantially, in a substantial way, like this. Surely there's adjustments needed, but not all of these adjustments. [2:32:55, 2:33:15]: Adjustments should be necessary. No, because maybe it has not been for some time. There will be adjustments. At least you are guaranteed there will be at least one budget amendment at the end of the fiscal year. We agreed we'll have one mid year just to see how far have we gone. So we'll have one mid year. [2:33:15, 2:33:22]: Then we'll have some at the end of the year after finishing December. So we may have January, February, we'll have it. [2:33:23, 2:33:27]: I wanted to close this one with the amp theatre. [2:33:27, 2:33:47]: I want you also to understand that last time I presented it was six point four million. Now it has gone up to eight point one million. The reason why there are several things, several factors. You have to know that there are some expenses are not related to operations. [2:33:48, 2:33:50]: Because it's an enterprise. [2:33:50, 2:34:10]: Right. Whenever there's mowing, whenever there's repairs, whenever public works they do anything there, they charge to that fund. So in other words, what you're saying is these were not uh equated to actual operations. They were cap maybe capital expenses and that kind of thing. [2:34:10, 2:34:30]: thing that were factored in any repairs and that kind of thing. It didn't have anything directly to do with concert operations or day to day, but it it s it's work that needed to be done. It's not all we have also depreciation we have to check in there. There's six hundred and six six over six hundred thousand [2:34:30, 2:34:50]: than depreciation for twenty twenty four. Right. So that has nothing to do with the real operation. However, all those factors are important because without them there would no there wouldn't be operational. Exactly, exactly. You gotta do your you gotta you gotta maintain the place, you gotta keep it up, you gotta make sure that [2:34:50, 2:35:10]: So and I think that's uh some of the budgetary things that you have now brought to the surface that before, you know, when we got the got maybe got some of the information we got before, all of those other costs weren't captured. Is that what you're alluding to t as well? And to the yes, sir. And the worst part of it. [2:35:10, 2:35:10]: Yeah. [2:35:11, 2:35:18]: Not the worst part of it, was uh to conceal the expenses of amphet and charge into different fund. [2:35:19, 2:35:22]: That is Fund E three hundred and fifty three, which is city wide. [2:35:23, 2:35:24]: uh projects [2:35:24, 2:35:44]: And that was being done without your knowledge. You cannot move money from one fund, whether from amp uh amphitheater, from without the council's consent. I'm doing the same, but you have to approve it. So let me let me just make sure we start right there and understand what you're saying. [2:35:44, 2:35:59]: What you're saying is when you say being let down you're being very kind and that this was concealed in some ways. Because it involved personnel, so I can't Well when I say that I'm saying not particular any particular person but [2:36:01, 2:36:21]: particular event was actually moved from one category that had nothing to do with the operations of this facility, correct? In that uh a unrelated category. Yeah, from one fund to the other. Right. But but but totally two s unrelated funds. [2:36:21, 2:36:26]: And no one can do that without your knowledge. [2:36:28, 2:36:33]: All right. If there's any any question, comment [2:36:33, 2:36:37]: When you oh go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead, Ms. Barb. [2:36:39, 2:36:41]: I'm gonna try to speak. [2:36:41, 2:36:43]: Very slowly. [2:36:44, 2:36:45]: And calmly. [2:36:46, 2:36:49]: So that I don't lose my cool. [2:36:51, 2:36:52]: Can you hear me? [2:36:55, 2:37:00]: Before I do that, I did write down some questions and points I want to ask. [2:37:01, 2:37:06]: The first one is, um, what citywide projects, if any, [2:37:07, 2:37:10]: Could be or are potentially [2:37:10, 2:37:11]: At risk. [2:37:12, 2:37:14]: Due to lack of funding. [2:37:14, 2:37:27]: Are you aware of any? So Citywide was made to cater for various projects. Like last year we bought or we paid our six PD. [2:37:27, 2:37:32]: vehicles from there, four hundred and seventy four thousand, that's council approved. [2:37:33, 2:37:37]: uh ampheaters one of them to take that one [2:37:37, 2:37:45]: Initially you were f you were getting money from there before you created the amphitheater itself. But [2:37:45, 2:37:48]: Івенчуаліт бікем лайки пасітру. [2:37:49, 2:37:56]: Because if it goes to amphitheater allocation you have to approve it. But here it was not being [2:37:57, 2:37:59]: approved by your council. [2:38:00, 2:38:06]: But I will not go beyond that as I said that it involved personnel, so I can't go beyond that. [2:38:07, 2:38:08]: You have the details. [2:38:11, 2:38:15]: Okay. I don't know if that's answered my question, but thank you. [2:38:15, 2:38:16]: Um [2:38:18, 2:38:20]: One of the other things. [2:38:20, 2:38:22]: Well, this is a point I'll make. [2:38:23, 2:38:26]: In December of twenty twenty two. [2:38:27, 2:38:30]: The FY twenty twenty three budget. [2:38:30, 2:38:32]: was approved for adoption. [2:38:33, 2:38:34]: With insufficient [2:38:34, 2:38:35]: Reporting [2:38:35, 2:38:37]: Of the actuals. [2:38:37, 2:38:38]: Current [2:38:39, 2:38:40]: Year to date. [2:38:42, 2:38:44]: I asked those questions specifically. [2:38:44, 2:38:45]: During the meetings. [2:38:46, 2:38:48]: It's all on record. [2:38:49, 2:38:52]: I've been asking for the financials. [2:38:52, 2:38:54]: Prior to you, Mr Mulazie. [2:38:55, 2:38:57]: Let me first thank you, sir. [2:38:58, 2:39:01]: Thank you for all that you've done so far. [2:39:01, 2:39:02]: To get us to this point. [2:39:03, 2:39:06]: Thank you for all that you've done to [2:39:08, 2:39:12]: Be more transparent in how our city is operating. [2:39:13, 2:39:15]: And how it has been governed. [2:39:15, 2:39:16]: In the past. [2:39:19, 2:39:21]: The citizens deserve. [2:39:22, 2:39:23]: Transparency. [2:39:24, 2:39:25]: I fought for that. [2:39:26, 2:39:27]: Since I've been here. [2:39:28, 2:39:32]: I've been asking for routine financial reports. [2:39:32, 2:39:33]: So that I [2:39:34, 2:39:38]: could be more responsible in my decision making. [2:39:38, 2:39:42]: prior to approving projects and expenditures. [2:39:42, 2:39:45]: I've been fought on every turn. [2:39:46, 2:39:50]: Every time I ask questions in regards to the financial status of our city. [2:39:50, 2:39:51]: I was shut down. [2:39:52, 2:39:52]: But [2:39:53, 2:39:54]: A member [2:39:54, 2:39:57]: Several members of this council. [2:39:59, 2:40:02]: prior to Mr. Berry and while Mr. Berry has been here. [2:40:04, 2:40:05]: I'm tired. [2:40:06, 2:40:09]: To hear several members of this council [2:40:09, 2:40:11]: Now pretend as though [2:40:12, 2:40:12]: Oh. [2:40:13, 2:40:14]: They woke up and [2:40:14, 2:40:16]: Realize that [2:40:16, 2:40:21]: We have not been good stuards of the taxpayer dollars. [2:40:21, 2:40:24]: It's because you have not been holding staff accountable. [2:40:26, 2:40:28]: You haven't been asking the right questions. [2:40:28, 2:40:31]: And you've been targeting me for asking the questions. [2:40:32, 2:40:36]: I'm trying to get financial information in regards to our city. [2:40:36, 2:40:38]: Prior to you, Mr. Malazi. [2:40:39, 2:40:40]: I'm not gonna go [2:40:41, 2:40:43]: I'm not gonna go on a tangent. [2:40:44, 2:40:44]: Or a rent here. [2:40:45, 2:40:48]: Because my questions and concerns are well documented. [2:40:49, 2:40:50]: Over the past [2:40:50, 2:40:53]: Five years and six months. [2:40:54, 2:41:08]: I understand the process, Mr. Malazzi, you're needing the council to approve um this uh FY twenty twenty four budget amendments so that you can complete the auditing process. [2:41:10, 2:41:11]: I can't support this. [2:41:11, 2:41:14]: I wouldn't have I wouldn't have supported [2:41:14, 2:41:16]: Approving the budget amendments. [2:41:17, 2:41:18]: Had they been brought to the council? [2:41:19, 2:41:20]: Last year. [2:41:20, 2:41:23]: Pertaining to the operations of the amphitheatre. [2:41:23, 2:41:25]: Or anything else. [2:41:26, 2:41:27]: I wouldn't have approved it then. [2:41:28, 2:41:30]: And I'm not going to approve it now. [2:41:31, 2:41:33]: I implore my councilmates. [2:41:35, 2:41:36]: Hold staff accountable. [2:41:38, 2:41:40]: I employed the community. [2:41:41, 2:41:44]: Hold your elected officials accountable. [2:41:45, 2:41:46]: Фодесизм дати. [2:41:47, 2:41:48]: and the decisions that they don't make. [2:41:50, 2:41:52]: I'm so disappointed. [2:41:53, 2:41:54]: I don't even know what to say. [2:41:55, 2:41:58]: That that's it. I have nothing more to say. [2:42:00, 2:42:00]: Everything, sir. [2:42:03, 2:42:23]: Mr. Malazi, again, it's already been echoed. We really want to thank you for the work that you've done this this year in presenting this and and digging, doing the corrective digging. Um my short time here um just to kind of echo what's been said, um I've also been a champion of asking the right [2:42:23, 2:42:43]: Right questions and trying to get the information. Um my tactics may be a little bit different. My my position may be a little bit different, but we all try to get to the we all try to get to the end result, which is where we are today. Um I'm grateful that we're here now and I'm hopeful that we can continue to operate the way we're operating now. [2:42:43, 2:42:51]: And I'm hopeful that moving forward, whatever you need, we've already expressed that to you before, whatever you need from this council. [2:42:52, 2:42:53]: You have our support. [2:42:56, 2:43:00]: All right. Yes. Oh yes, ma'am. Go ahead. Um just wanna comment. [2:43:01, 2:43:06]: I don't wanna pinpoint and and point fingers at each and every council member. That's not the case here. [2:43:07, 2:43:08]: We haven't had [2:43:08, 2:43:10]: Um we had one amendment. [2:43:10, 2:43:13]: That amendment was done, I wanna say [2:43:13, 2:43:15]: Was it this year or last year? [2:43:15, 2:43:16]: Twenty twenty four. [2:43:17, 2:43:19]: August of twenty twenty four. [2:43:19, 2:43:26]: in request for five hundred thousand. Unfortunately, that's the only amendment that we had received. [2:43:26, 2:43:29]: We hire staff. [2:43:30, 2:43:30]: Two. [2:43:31, 2:43:41]: Go over the budget to look at says city manager's budget, right? He's to give us a proposal for the budget and anytime there's an amendment to the budget, if we're to go over the budget. [2:43:41, 2:43:44]: They are to or we're close to going over. [2:43:45, 2:43:53]: The job of the treasurer or the financial director is to notify of us of that, and that never took place. Now [2:43:53, 2:43:58]: I can speak for every single council member to include Councilman Thomas. [2:43:59, 2:44:01]: And I beg and plead of each and every one of you. [2:44:02, 2:44:02]: Two [2:44:03, 2:44:09]: Look, don't look at the delusions, but read the facts. They are in black and white. [2:44:10, 2:44:12]: And just one example. [2:44:13, 2:44:16]: Of black and white are minutes to the meetings. [2:44:16, 2:44:36]: All the minutes have been documented. There have been emails and open requests, open records requests. I am aware that there might even be somewhat of questions from some of our mayor and counsel could have very well sought their own legal assistance at trying to receive. [2:44:36, 2:44:56]: receive information and it is from my understanding some of those may have been dropped because what the record showed was that each and every single council member up here at one point or another have said it is that every council member should receive all information they request. [2:44:56, 2:44:59]: That's one thing that's always stated throughout the minutes. [2:45:00, 2:45:01]: As well as [2:45:03, 2:45:10]: Each and every council member at some point has asked or requested for financial information. [2:45:11, 2:45:14]: On April twenty fifth, twenty twenty four. [2:45:15, 2:45:17]: At our eight o'clock city council meeting. [2:45:17, 2:45:21]: That's some of our minutes. We talked about the amphitheater. [2:45:22, 2:45:29]: Um I I don't want to go and bring up every single little detail, but it says in here. [2:45:30, 2:45:34]: Um and just just a few highlighted things. [2:45:35, 2:45:40]: one of the minutes say in here that uh during the discussion [2:45:42, 2:45:46]: One moment. Uh councilwoman suggested [2:45:48, 2:45:48]: Mm. [2:45:49, 2:45:53]: Oh I'm looking at this. I'm not I'm gonna go through all of I'm gonna go through a few. [2:45:54, 2:45:55]: Um [2:45:55, 2:46:08]: That council member for for instance, one of'em, Councilmember Gantt questioned why the city interim treasurer, Lakeisha Gaines, was not in attendance to respond to financial inquiries for the city at that moment. [2:46:09, 2:46:26]: Um, and then we had Mayor Pro Tem Berry at the time. He requested a number of shows, gross alcohol sales, twenty twenty-one, twenty-two, twenty-three, and later asked that twenty twenty-one not be excluded, noting there were only being no noting that there were only being two shows that we included all. [2:46:27, 2:46:36]: Um, Councilwoman Barber stated she has made requests for the same, multiple requests for amphitheater financial reports such as twenty twenty-two, twenty twenty-three. [2:46:37, 2:46:41]: And і it goes on. So we're all requesting. [2:46:42, 2:46:44]: I'm sorry, this is just one example. [2:46:45, 2:46:46]: Um [2:46:47, 2:46:51]: We requested and Mayor Ford even brought to the attention. [2:46:51, 2:46:59]: Of mayor council that we we decided to hold off on making any decisions until we got a financial update. Okay. [2:46:59, 2:47:02]: So that's just one. Let me get out of that one. [2:47:05, 2:47:06]: One second. [2:47:06, 2:47:08]: I'm sorry it's gonna take me a second. I just wanna [2:47:08, 2:47:10]: Make sure I get [2:47:10, 2:47:13]: All of them for you that I I really want to point out here. [2:47:16, 2:47:17]: Um [2:47:21, 2:47:27]: There was a another date and I don't have the actual date, but there is one that says Councilman Thomas. [2:47:27, 2:47:40]: stated and need stated and agreed that the council needs to see the data and information from prior years, twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three, and offer the opinion to allow alcohol to be brought in for concerts. [2:47:40, 2:47:58]: Councilmember Gantt agreed that the financials for prior year should be submitted to the council and offer her support, the alcohol should be allowed at the amphitheater concert. So evidently this particular hearing, and these are just snip bits, okay? These are particular meetings where we're asking for financials. [2:47:59, 2:48:03]: There are there's also councilman Alexander who's saying the same thing. [2:48:04, 2:48:08]: And then we we we go on. One I'm gonna go two nuts or more. [2:48:11, 2:48:17]: But I but I w no I w I believe your points will take it. Well no, I have one more mayor that I really want to get the my point across. [2:48:18, 2:48:23]: Can I help you, Councilman? Yes, one one second. Knowing what I know now. [2:48:24, 2:48:30]: even you received those reports wouldn't have given any correct information. [2:48:32, 2:48:38]: If you recall, October I withdrew the financial report, if you recall. [2:48:38, 2:48:40]: I do recall that [2:48:40, 2:48:46]: So i it's a report is report, but i is it correct report? [2:48:46, 2:49:06]: Correct. And so let me say this. We continued to ask for reports and we received reports. Some of the reports that we got said that we broke even. Some say we were just negative sixty five thousand or somewhere around that number. I have that information I'll share with you. Correct. But we also received a note. Here's one, Councilwoman Barber noted. [2:49:06, 2:49:20]: to the members of council, members of council should not micromanage the amphitheater, noting the amphitheater general manager should be working with the city manager who will keep the full council updated. [2:49:21, 2:49:22]: And so [2:49:22, 2:49:42]: This particular councilwoman gas again asked how the city can help market the amphitheater thereafter. So we were told not to micromanage, and that wasn't by us, that was by one of our other council members, correct? We each and every person in here, and my whole point across uh to get the point across, and I quote. [2:49:42, 2:49:44]: It says. [2:49:44, 2:49:47]: We should not micromanage the anfitter. [2:49:48, 2:49:55]: Noting the amphitheater general manager should be working with the city manager who will keep us in and the full council updated. [2:49:56, 2:49:59]: Now that particular note came from Councilwoman Barber. [2:50:00, 2:50:14]: along with the other notes and emails, even when requested, to what documents to receive. I have w for one, always said in black and white, you can pull every open records request you would like. [2:50:15, 2:50:21]: If one council member asks for a document, make sure that they get them. They should get them. They should receive them. [2:50:22, 2:50:24]: Each and every council member [2:50:26, 2:50:46]: We all have a duty and a responsibility to do what's in the best interest of our city. But we hired staff to do it. And we hired staff to protect the city and to protect us because you're the people who are experts. The people, unfortunately, who hired us let us down. They didn't follow the policies and procedures in place. [2:50:46, 2:51:00]: And they did not warn or give us those warnings. Instead, we received a note, we received information that stated that we were breaking even. And it was for the operation cost, not for the complete total enterprise. Let me be clear. [2:51:01, 2:51:03]: In addition to saying that [2:51:03, 2:51:05]: In addition to that [2:51:06, 2:51:08]: If I'm placed and I wanna make this very clear. [2:51:09, 2:51:13]: People who know me or don't know me should know this. [2:51:13, 2:51:16]: If I ever get a warning. [2:51:17, 2:51:18]: That [2:51:18, 2:51:20]: Our financials aren't in order. [2:51:22, 2:51:41]: From our treasurer, and if uh if any the city manor or or treasurer ever spoke to me, or anybody in the finance department ever spoke to me and said that we have a problem, that we're over budget, the very first thing I'm gonna do is stop drop and roll, meaning I'm gonna stop. [2:51:41, 2:51:56]: I'm gonna reach out to my mayor. I'm gonna ask for a special call meeting. I'm going to ask the mayor or the city manager what is going on and look into it. And I'm gonna notify each and every one of my council members. [2:51:57, 2:52:03]: And anybody who has been placed on notice that we had an issue with our finances. [2:52:03, 2:52:06]: And we were brought that wasn't brought to our attention. [2:52:06, 2:52:08]: Would be just as guilty. [2:52:09, 2:52:28]: And that's the comments I have. Because if had I known immediately, like I do any other thing, and once I once I started looking into things, I immediately reached out to my colleagues. And that is the statement that needs to be across. And it's not about going around trying to make others look bad. [2:52:29, 2:52:39]: My job is to fix the problem. The people that are here that did the problem or created the problem or didn't provide the notice of the problem are no longer present. [2:52:40, 2:52:42]: And I'm and that's unfortunate. [2:52:43, 2:52:48]: But what my job is to do is to not to make it look like I'm over here trying to hide something. [2:52:48, 2:52:55]: Or like somebody's trying to do something underhanded. When each and every single council member up here [2:52:56, 2:53:06]: Mr. Alexander's in the minute several time asking about finances. I'm in here asking about financials. Mr. Mayor Berry, Councilman Thomas, and Mayor Ford. [2:53:07, 2:53:16]: There are minutes in the meeting that says that we he even continued until we got certain information. We can only rely on the information that was given to us. [2:53:17, 2:53:21]: And that is the point that I want to make. [2:53:22, 2:53:30]: We move and shape based off of the level of expertise of the people who work here full time Monday through Friday. [2:53:32, 2:53:43]: Our job is to legislate and to make those decisions based off of the information that is given to us. If the mere inf if inf information is not given to us, we can't make the right decision. [2:53:43, 2:53:44]: That's it. [2:53:45, 2:53:46]: Mr. Alexander, go away, please. [2:53:46, 2:54:06]: Let me just say this. And Councilwoman Gantt, you're absolutely right in your assessment of what has taken place. Everybody up here has asked questions and gotten information that was erroneous. And we actually had a special call meeting last year at the amphitheater facility. [2:54:06, 2:54:26]: where we drilled uh uh down deep into what has happened. And the response from Council Woman Barber was stop micromanaging the empathy of the manager and the city manager. That was the response. Because I was the one leading the argument. Miss Gantt was chiming in, Mr. Barber, m Mr. Berry also. [2:54:26, 2:54:46]: Councilman Thomas was asking questions. We were trying to make decisions down to whether uh how alcohol affected the sales, down to that level of whether to allow alcohol in outside alcohol or not, to fine-tune to make sure that we were looking to be uh profitable this year. [2:54:46, 2:55:06]: And the first thing that we did, why did we make those moves in February? Because we have been asking questions all of the previous year. That's why, even though we did not know about the level of the losses, we have been asking questions and some of the things that we were seeing along the way did not quite add up. [2:55:06, 2:55:26]: And we were asking questions. So, in an effort to get a better control over that, we brought a lot of the things in-house, as I indicated previously. We brought the vendors in-house, we brought all payments in-house so that when we reached a level that was that would trigger the trust. [2:55:26, 2:55:46]: To alert us, and we knew that we had the right person in place with Mr. Malazi doing the work. And as Councilman Berrier said, and Councilwoman Gantt, and even Councilwoman Barber said, Mr. Malazzi has done an amazing job. And with accurate information, you make good decisions. [2:55:46, 2:56:06]: One of the things that I don't do, and I don't think anybody up here does, is to make decisions without the facts. Now, getting the reports that we got, we kept requesting them, everybody requesting them. Councilwoman Barber requested them, Councilman Gantt did, uh Mayor Pro Tem Berry did, Councilman Thomas did. [2:56:06, 2:56:26]: When we got the document, the document said for this particular concert, we made a little money. For this particular concert, we lost a little bit of money, but we got an overall balance for a year that we ended up spending$10 million. That told us that we only spent$2.3 million through August. That report was a hundred. [2:56:26, 2:56:46]: could not have been had any touch with reality because we ended up spending ten million dollars in twenty twenty three. And the report that we had saw when we had requested the information said that through the beginning of August we had only spread two point three billion dollars. There's no way that we could have spent an extra [2:56:46, 2:57:04]: Extra$8 million in that time. And no one sounded the whistle to say, this is what's going on. We need to do these transfers. And there's a reason that we have these city policies. These city policies are to protect the city and to protect the residents. And honestly, [2:57:05, 2:57:08]: This is not over with yet. There's a long way to go. [2:57:08, 2:57:28]: We will continue to look and continue to do the research till we find out where every dollar and every cent went and every uh particular document will be scrutinized to determine how that document ended up being incorrect. That's what we're saying right now. That document was incorrect. But what into what went into making [2:57:28, 2:57:48]: That document incorrect? What went into us getting erroneous information when we asked these questions? Because again, asking the question just begs the question: why was the information that we were given inaccurate in such a way that it painted a picture that wasn't attached to [2:57:48, 2:58:08]: what the final numbers were were again. And again, the work that Mr. Malazi has done reconstructing the last three or four years now that we have accurate information, we made the decisions that needed to be made. And we're about solutions right now. The solutions, one of the first solutions was bringing Mr. Malazi [2:58:08, 2:58:24]: aboard last year before anybody started raising before there was this public outcry or or or or attachment. Make no mistake about it. This process has been ongoing. And if you did any open records requests, [2:58:25, 2:58:45]: The documents that you were seeing were requested by somebody. Ask yourself that. The document that you got was already created. They were created because I asked questions. Ms. Gantt asked questions. Mr. Berry asked questions. Those are the documents that you're seeing. You see the trail of us asking questions and getting the documents. [2:58:44, 2:59:04]: documents because you requested them already. Many of you have. How why were those documents created? Because we asked them to be created. And if you continue to follow the path, you will see more and more of them. And then you will see some of the outcomes that we will see. But what are the things that you don't do is you don't go out screaming the bullhorn. [2:59:04, 2:59:13]: When you're doing an investigation, or you're actually looking to uh look for what's going on or trying to determine something. [2:59:13, 2:59:33]: Why would you want to go out and alert alert everybody so that everybody's now looking over their shoulder when you're actually doing the work? The work was done openly and quietly and do open records. You saw the work being done, but no one once thought, how did these documents that they're sending? [2:59:33, 2:59:37]: [10778.0, 10788.8]: And certainly, there's a lot of questions that we want to ask too, because some of the things that you all think that we were aware of, like uh redactions, certainly. [2:59:49, 3:00:09]: I want to know what you saw and when you saw them and what was taken and what was removed. Certainly, those type of things are something that we want to know the answer to as well, because certainly we trust staff to give you the information that is requested and move forward with and how and who determined what [3:00:09, 3:00:29]: What you got and what you did not get, certainly we became aware that, and certainly we want answers to that question too, is why were documents going out being redacted that we had no knowledge of, that they were being that that was happening. So in essence, what we want to do is to understand [3:00:29, 3:00:35]: and have everybody to understand this is not the ending. We this meeting is certainly not the ending. [3:00:35, 3:00:38]: We might not have even reached the [3:00:38, 3:00:39]: Midpoint at this point. [3:00:40, 3:01:00]: The investigation will continue to go on until we come up with ever with every answer and to every question. But certainly I won't be out there screaming at every step of the way what we're doing, because some of the times you might not want to know everyone to know. You want to, but it'll be available to every document. [3:01:00, 3:01:15]: will be available through open records and certainly um you haven't heard the last of where this is going, there will be a resolution and certainly that resolution will conclude all of the facts. Thank you. And Barber go ahead please. [3:01:15, 3:01:29]: Yes, um, thank you, Mayor. Councilwoman Gantt ran she read the meeting minutes from April twenty twenty-four, but she didn't read um the other portions of my comments. [3:01:30, 3:01:31]: In which [3:01:31, 3:01:33]: I have consistently stated [3:01:34, 3:01:36]: We need major sponsors. [3:01:37, 3:01:40]: To fund the operations of the amphitheater. [3:01:41, 3:01:42]: So that our city [3:01:43, 3:01:46]: Із на фунда процент ата. [3:01:47, 3:01:51]: She didn't read that portion of the meeting minutes. But nonetheless [3:01:52, 3:01:55]: since January of twenty twenty, [3:01:56, 3:01:57]: When I was sworn in [3:02:00, 3:02:04]: I have been asking the same questions. [3:02:04, 3:02:05]: Over and over. [3:02:06, 3:02:09]: Why is information being withheld from me? [3:02:10, 3:02:13]: Whether it's contracts or the financials. [3:02:14, 3:02:15]: Just last month. [3:02:16, 3:02:20]: I was waiting for mister Malazian, I'm sorry, to put you on the spot. [3:02:21, 3:02:23]: To send to the full council. [3:02:25, 3:02:35]: all of the financials regarding the twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, and twenty twenty four expenses and revenues for the amphitheater. [3:02:36, 3:02:38]: Because he said that he was going to send it all to us. [3:02:40, 3:02:41]: Well [3:02:41, 3:02:44]: Council members are interfering. [3:02:46, 3:02:48]: They're going directly to staff. [3:02:48, 3:02:49]: And telling them [3:02:50, 3:02:53]: Telling them not to send the information. [3:02:53, 3:02:54]: To me. [3:02:55, 3:03:01]: to me specifically, and they're giving them misinformation. [3:03:02, 3:03:14]: Telling Mr. Malazi he reports directly to the mayor to send the financial information to the mayor and the mayor would distribute it to the rest of the council. That's not how this works. [3:03:15, 3:03:17]: That's not how this works at all. [3:03:18, 3:03:21]: To suggest since I've been on this council [3:03:22, 3:03:29]: There has been a consistent theme of there must be a consensus of three members of the council. [3:03:30, 3:03:32]: In order to receive information. [3:03:32, 3:03:33]: That's false. [3:03:35, 3:03:36]: That's false. [3:03:38, 3:03:39]: You're misleading the public. [3:03:39, 3:03:41]: And you misled me too. [3:03:41, 3:03:43]: Which is why I had [3:03:44, 3:03:45]: To hire my own attorney. [3:03:46, 3:03:50]: and submit a demand letter in which y'all basically gave that the middle finger. [3:03:51, 3:03:53]: I just got today. [3:03:55, 3:03:56]: Information. [3:03:57, 3:03:58]: That was submitted to the city. [3:04:01, 3:04:03]: Via my demand letter. [3:04:04, 3:04:09]: dated november twenty twenty four. I just received some information today. [3:04:09, 3:04:11]: That I requested back then. [3:04:12, 3:04:13]: So if you think I uh [3:04:14, 3:04:24]: I'm real clear as to what has been happening. Whole lot of council interference and a whole lot of staff that have been complying with that interference. [3:04:24, 3:04:26]: Into the financials of the city. [3:04:27, 3:04:28]: I become a target. [3:04:29, 3:04:36]: Long time ago, because I would not stop asking questions. And I'm not going to stop asking questions. [3:04:36, 3:04:41]: I am not here for politics. Do right by the city. That's all I want. [3:04:42, 3:04:44]: That is all I want. [3:04:44, 3:04:50]: You now asking questions like you're also very concerned. No, you should have been concerned. [3:04:51, 3:04:51]: Bien [3:04:52, 3:04:54]: When staff was not providing monthly. [3:04:55, 3:04:58]: quarterly or min your budget reviews. [3:04:59, 3:05:02]: My requests are well documented. [3:05:02, 3:05:05]: Me speaking so boldly? [3:05:06, 3:05:11]: During our public meetings, it was me raising the red flag to the public. [3:05:12, 3:05:15]: So that you all will hold these folks accountable. [3:05:15, 3:05:16]: Every one of'em. [3:05:17, 3:05:19]: It took me ten months. [3:05:19, 3:05:22]: To receive independent audit results. [3:05:22, 3:05:25]: From our twenty twenty two financials. [3:05:25, 3:05:27]: All of them know, they all knew. [3:05:28, 3:05:29]: Why weren't they asking? [3:05:30, 3:05:33]: Why were they why weren't they asking the same questions? [3:05:34, 3:05:36]: Probably because they all received it. [3:05:37, 3:05:40]: I have not. I had to jump through hoops. [3:05:40, 3:05:44]: to get twenty two twenty twenty two financial results. [3:05:46, 3:05:48]: It is really [3:05:49, 3:05:56]: I am flabbergasted that now I'm hearing council members here sounding so very concerned. [3:05:57, 3:05:59]: These concerts are not free to the city. [3:06:00, 3:06:02]: Somebody's gotta pay for it. [3:06:02, 3:06:09]: And the notion that one concert, the revenue from it, will pay for the next concert is all crazy. [3:06:09, 3:06:15]: Crazy, but that is what your logic have been. That's what you all have been explaining to the public. [3:06:21, 3:06:41]: I'm done. Mr. Barrett you have any comments or you have yet to speak. I just wanna know if you have any comments at all. I don't know if it's it's important to add anything at this point. I I think the work has been done and and everything's been stated that needs to be stated for the sake of time. We need to uh get to the business of things. Well I just wanted to make sure I asked you that. [3:06:41, 3:06:47]: Yeah, nothing to ask. Sir, you're asking for uh Ms. Malazi, you're asking for a motion to approve this adjustment here. [3:06:47, 3:07:05]: And and and I and I agree with you, sir. We need to we need to move on. And I understand it might have I I understand that. But we need to honestly move on. I understand. But I have I do have but we don't need to keep going back and forth. We're not going to go back and forth. I don't know about all that because No, we don't stap stand by stand by one. Stand by please. Yes, Miss uh Miss Holiday. [3:07:07, 3:07:08]: Yeah, go ahead. [3:07:11, 3:07:12]: Well [3:07:15, 3:07:15]: Yeah. [3:07:16, 3:07:36]: Ms. Gantt. Thank you. No, no. I'm not done. I'm not. We need to finish this. We need we need to finish this with this vote. I agree. So so so it's almost over. Excuse me? It's almost over. Um it's just I want to go through three bullet points right here and I'm it's not long. I'm just reading it. See the point of it is count point or point count point point another point. [3:07:36, 3:07:41]: point. I thought we had two respondents. Well how about this? How about we go ahead and make a motion to vote? [3:07:42, 3:07:56]: Well Mayor, I actually I from my understanding we had two responses and I think that that you did not respond you responded more than twice twice already? No. I responded once. I read the minutes t of some of the meetings, just exam a small example. [3:07:58, 3:08:00]: Any emotion to accept this? [3:08:00, 3:08:16]: I'll promise you I'll make the motion after this, but I really want to respond to this. I understand that. I understand. I understand. Okay. I need a motion to accept Mr. Malause's presentation. So move. Is is okay, is there a second to motion? Is there a second to the motion? [3:08:18, 3:08:19]: No second to the motion. [3:08:20, 3:08:21]: I need to respond first. [3:08:23, 3:08:27]: I guess you got your chance to respond, so I'm saying the motion. We need to prove it's what he's asking. Okay. [3:08:28, 3:08:34]: Mayor, if I can make a motion, but I before I make the motion I would like to respond to something real quick. [3:08:35, 3:08:42]: The intent is for his mo if what he presented to us to be passed. I understand the motion right now we're we're a standstill. Well [3:08:43, 3:08:46]: May I comment before we make the motion before I second the motion? [3:08:47, 3:09:07]: If it's going to help us get the motion. It will help us get the motion. Without a counterpoint here? It will. Go ahead, Ms. Gandhi. Okay. All right. Um, just a few pointers, real quick. All of us want major sponsors. We've always asked for sponsors. We love our sponsors. Um, there have been opportunities, and we've been told before there have been opportunities for sponsors. [3:09:07, 3:09:27]: for sponsors and sometimes we weren't able to get sponsors or the sponsors were looking at some of our meetings at our behavior, just like the city managers that were pending. Sometimes that we were been told that we can't get certain sponsors or some certain sponsors walked away from deals or certain people who applied for city [3:09:26, 3:09:35]: manager positions may have walked away by looking at some of our meetings. So um and that's in 2020 and so I just want to [3:09:35, 3:09:36]: Point that out. [3:09:36, 3:09:54]: In regards to the city manager receiving financials directly, the city manager, the our mayor is our interim city manager at this time. I based off of the org chart, from my understanding, um the treasurer or the director of finances to report to [3:09:54, 3:09:55]: Our city. [3:09:56, 3:09:57]: manager. [3:09:57, 3:10:12]: which is now the mayor, or you can report you can report to all of us. I report it to council. Okay, good. So you report directly to Mayor and Council. But I wanted to make that bring that to attention. There no one has said that there has to be a consensus to receive information. [3:10:13, 3:10:16]: There has to be a consensus to vote on an issue. [3:10:16, 3:10:30]: not to receive documents and information knowledge. So if I for instance asked our uh HR or asked our assistance uh or asked our clerk for some information [3:10:30, 3:10:50]: I wouldn't need a consensus for of three people to get that information. It's just information. It takes a consensus to move something or a process and procedure to be in place or go along, to pass an ordinance, to pass a resolution. Those are what consensus takes to direct staff to go in a particular manner. [3:10:50, 3:10:59]: But to ask for information, that information is used for us each to make our own educated decisions on the way we're going to vote. [3:10:59, 3:11:09]: That that is something that I just want to make clear of. Um and I also recommend and I highly, highly, highly ask that you just go and look through the minutes. [3:11:10, 3:11:30]: Go and eat, read each and single every time, or go look at some of those emails that some of you requested. And I can guarantee you not there's not one time where we say don't give somebody some information or that we too want the information or provide us with a copy as well. I think each one of us has our own style of doing. [3:11:30, 3:11:39]: things. My style may very well be different than someone else's style. I don't believe in you have to be loud to get what you want. [3:11:39, 3:11:56]: I believe that you can talk and try to figure out what's going on without necessarily showing your hand. And so I I'm not saying that one person is I'm responsible for taking it up for another person on this council, none of that. It's all about [3:11:56, 3:11:59]: Just each person has their own way. [3:11:59, 3:12:07]: an own style of leadership. That doesn't mean we're not trying to get to the same point and position. Some of us are quiet. [3:12:07, 3:12:23]: And we're not just being passive. We're gathering up as much information as we can first. Why show your hand? That's my con that that's the way I look at it. Um having said that, Mayor, I second the motion to approve. Um [3:12:24, 3:12:25]: I I will second the emotion. [3:12:27, 3:12:27]: Yeah, yeah. [3:12:28, 3:12:33]: Oh Mr. Mer Mr. Berry made a motion. You second that motion. All right. Okay. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [3:12:35, 3:12:42]: All polls. I oppose based on principle. That's for the record. All right, three four. Yes, ma'am I'm sorry, I do need to respond. [3:12:43, 3:12:45]: You need to respond? Go ahead. [3:12:46, 3:13:06]: You got the right votes. Three three three one vote. Let pass. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Um, Councilman Alexander, you may ask a question regarding open records redaction. Yes. And why the public was not receiving information that was not redacted, and you were questioning why they received it that way. I will tell you that the clerk's office. [3:13:05, 3:13:17]: especially um Cassandra Lester does an amazing job with the voluminous open records report request that we have received over the last two or three years. [3:13:18, 3:13:18]: Mm-hmm. [3:13:19, 3:13:39]: We redact in our office standard basic open records information that is confidential information, name uh emails, phone numbers, date of birth, and that. Anything other than that is at the direction of legal. [3:13:39, 3:13:52]: Clerk's office is the one that actually performs the redaction, but we receive directives on specific information to be redacted other than the standard redaction information. [3:13:52, 3:14:05]: Thank you. I appreciate that. Maybe we'll have some personnel discussions in uh executive session. So I think that would be the next step. So certainly answers are due and we will certainly uh explore that. [3:14:07, 3:14:20]: Yep. Mr. Malazzi, we have council consideration to adopt the federal financial reports procedures and problematic pragmatic process report procedures this has here. You sir are gonna brief on that. [3:14:21, 3:14:23]: Thank you, Mayor. Uh [3:14:24, 3:14:27]: Our audit twenty twenty two, twenty three [3:14:28, 3:14:33]: Twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, in each of those audits we were [3:14:35, 3:14:50]: I would say written up or we had been told that our reporting was not up to the standard. One of them was the non budgeted spending we would spend [3:14:50, 3:14:51]: Where it was not budgeted. [3:14:52, 3:14:54]: Remember when the audit is up? [3:14:55, 3:15:09]: We have to give it to government finance officers association is a requirement. We have one to give to Georgia's uh state the audit. If we have got grants they will share with the federal government. [3:15:09, 3:15:29]: And them when they say, especially when we receive any amount that is over five hundred thousand, we will have a single audit. And in all our audits they found out that we were not following the procedures agreed during the receipt of our grants. So we were told [3:15:29, 3:15:35]: for we were given conditions for them to lift up uh [3:15:36, 3:15:36]: The [3:15:37, 3:15:54]: Issues that we didn't do accordingly, we have one to pass the financial these are federal financial and the programmatic reporting procedures. So meaning that the [3:15:56, 3:16:16]: Every quarter we have to submit a report which we are for uh we are falling short of. And also there are procedures of how to send that report, who prepares the report. So programmatic would be let's say we have got a uh copy. [3:16:16, 3:16:19]: That means the the [3:16:19, 3:16:33]: Project managers will be from PD. They are the experts in knowing how that grant will be utilized. And they will be the one that will be reporting the w will be writing the programmatic. [3:16:34, 3:16:48]: project how it's going, working with our grant administrator plus me to verify at the end of uh the report before submitted. That's what is in these uh reports. [3:16:50, 3:17:10]: Month end, month every month, what are the procedures? If the reports are to go on the twentieth of every month or at the end of the quarter, what are the procedures? We have in our financial system, financial system will send it to the program department, that could be public works, that would be [3:17:09, 3:17:25]: B PD. They will review it. They will agree with the financial statement. They will add in the projects. From there it goes to the grant administrator. She will review or he will review. If it's correct, then they will come to me. [3:17:26, 3:17:32]: I will verify and sign it because it's requirement that someone of uh [3:17:34, 3:17:54]: In this case, it will be me as a financial as a treasure to be the final signature. And there will be some areas where they will need the mayor to sign, they will need the chief police chief to sign uh different requirements, different reporting. Like now we have just applied for two. [3:17:54, 3:18:11]: Two grants, those ones the mayor has to sign on behalf of the city. But monthly, uh quarterly, I'll have to sign to make sure that we are meeting the requirements. That's what you will be adopting in these two. [3:18:13, 3:18:26]: this presentation that I'm having. So like on the program side of it, program manager review, that's the department. So program manager must review and approve their [3:18:28, 3:18:48]: respective F F F F R that is federal financial reports by the twentieth of the month. This is just an example. FFRs shall include a summary of grant expenses for the quota. The department have to agree that the report financial has [3:18:48, 3:19:08]: Produce for them, it agrees on how they have spent it. When they are writing the projects or programmatic, it has to be in line with the reports that finance has produced. For finance to produce a report, that means they spent, they have their invoices. [3:19:08, 3:19:15]: We paid and is in agreement to what they wanted that money to be used in their department. [3:19:22, 3:19:42]: Uh then you have programmatic reporting requirements. So those will be reporting schedule. You have the schedule which I have already uh talked about. And then you have reporting responsibilities and process. So if it's uh in the department you have the deputy who give you an example, the assistant. [3:19:42, 3:20:00]: Chief is the one that is responsible in that. Then he has to have someone to prepare for him to review before it goes to the uh grant administrator who will review it, then he give it to me, then who send it. So that there is a check and balances. [3:20:03, 3:20:18]: This once you accept this one, we are required to send it to Federal by thirtieth of this month with some other requirements that we have already made. So once you approve it, it has to make sure we have to make sure that the [3:20:19, 3:20:26]: You have approved it and we have distributed to the departments, they know the procedure. [3:20:28, 3:20:29]: And we'll follow them. [3:20:31, 3:20:51]: Okay, I tell you what, this is the tomorrow's the twenty-sixth. Does this this have to be made can it be electronically sent to them or it has to be mailed? Everything is electronic. Electronically sent. I copy your mail. And now is there something else upon approval, which I imagine that the council is gonna do this? Is there something maybe I might have missed it, to do this? Is there something additional I have to sign to go along with this? I think [3:20:51, 3:20:55]: This one we say actually it will be in the minute. [3:20:55, 3:21:15]: Okay. So it's something that they didn't need a resolution, you would have signed a resolution. But once in the minutes I'll get something uh added into it and I also uh make sure that all departments involved they have got this one because it's a requirement that they have departments have'cause that's in four days. Well actually [3:21:15, 3:21:21]: Three days. We have a time. Okay, all right. We have a time. So be it. Mr. Mess uh question. [3:21:23, 3:21:43]: I've got move my turn my mic on here so everybody can hear me. So certainly what you have done is continue to build on the recommendations that you made previously last year. Yes, sir. You're continuing to build on the recommendations that you made in February and you are ongoing. [3:21:43, 3:21:53]: Well you need right now, just like the previous action that you have, the council, you need our support to implement the solutions, right? [3:21:53, 3:22:13]: That is correct. Right. So we can complain all day up here about what the problem is, but when you come to us with the solution and we don't approve your solution, we're just spinning our wheels. Because that previous action that we just voted in brought us back will help bring us back [3:22:13, 3:22:19]: back into compliance, right? Without that action, the city would have been out of compliance, right? [3:22:19, 3:22:25]: Without that action you have made because that money is already spent. So in other ways [3:22:26, 3:22:28]: They [3:22:29, 3:22:35]: The audit cannot continue, cannot finish because I have to move money from where there was no money. [3:22:35, 3:22:37]: To put to [3:22:37, 3:22:45]: To balance the budget. Right. It's already spent. So so what I'm trying to get at, there is no room for the council not to act. [3:22:46, 3:22:50]: We have to act in order to get the solutions put in place, right? [3:22:51, 3:22:55]: It right now we have to th I'm asking a question to the treasurer. [3:22:56, 3:23:07]: It is incumbent upon the council at this point to get into compliance, to act, and we say that we trust you. [3:23:07, 3:23:27]: I do, but I can say with my mouth that I trust you all day long. Miss Barber, please. I can continue to say that I trust you, but when you come to me with the solutions and the solutions is solid and you point it and you present it to it, and then I say, well, you come to me with a solution, but I'm not gonna do anything, that's not an option. [3:23:27, 3:23:47]: option is we gotta our job is to legislate and to support solid stuff when it comes to us. So if anybody else don't have anything to say, I would go ahead and make the motion unless someone that wants to speak. Make a motion. I want to make the motion to re to approve the action by the treasurer. Uh [3:23:47, 3:23:49]: uh that has been put forth before council. [3:23:50, 3:24:10]: Sir, second emotion. Second. All right, all favor, please indicate. See now decision. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Okay, so you got it you say you got enough time to do all this and get it done by thirty. Actually they already have. They know that I'm I'm here, so they have copies of everything I'm presenting here. All right. Yeah. Tomorrow they'll be going. All right, sir. Once I get something from the [3:24:10, 3:24:18]: City Craig to show that he you have you have a suspense on the clerk. You just you just suspense the clerk there, Ms. Melazi. [3:24:19, 3:24:29]: And attorney. Oh, excuse me. And the attorney as well. You're a powerful treasure. Okay. Okay. Thank you. All right, uh discussion. Downtown alleyway sanitation trash collection. [3:24:30, 3:24:31]: Gentlemen, please. [3:24:34, 3:24:35]: Okay. [3:24:40, 3:25:00]: Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, sir. This the item before you again, it's a discussion-only item. Uh it's before you on behalf, I'm I submitted it on behalf of the Downtown Development Authority. Again, who I have with me this evening is the chair, Mr. Kenya Cook, and Mr. Warren Washington, who is a merchant. [3:25:00, 3:25:10]: And he's also the vice chair of the DDA and they'd like to discuss this particular item with you all at this time. Sure. Thank you, Gerald. Gentlemen, please. [3:25:11, 3:25:16]: First of all, thank you, Council, for this opportunity to present to you. Uh this matter was uh [3:25:16, 3:25:36]: uh existed before me becoming the chairman. So I uh asked that uh Warren Washington join us so he can give the background in detail and answer pertinent questions. But one of the things I would like to say is that uh just to go on record, Ms. Cassandra Lester has been an awesome support to us. So please thank you for loaning her to us. I just wouldn't say that publicly. [3:25:36, 3:25:37]: But I yield the floor to Mr. Warren. [3:25:39, 3:25:41]: To them yeah, there you go. To the mics, I appreciate it. [3:25:42, 3:26:02]: So the um the DDA board comes to the council today to to help us move forward with a solution to have a a combined trash compactor that will support all the businesses on the MLK district um business block and also have a one [3:26:02, 3:26:22]: uh Greece collecting bin for all the uh business as well, mainly the restaurants. And so our ask is to have the city construct that and to move forward in supporting that one particular area instead of having multiple trash uh bins in the back and having one a [3:26:22, 3:26:40]: the cement pad, the one trash compactor and also one grease bin so that uh we can move forward and help beautify that area and it goes into the the uh ultimate goal of the plan for beautification and making it a destination. [3:26:41, 3:27:01]: All right, my initial question would be about the grease trap. I mean, would that if not a grease trap, a grease bin. Called Grease Ben. It's different. Grease traps are in the ground. A be a grease bin is the collection bin for the grease uh that you take out and you pour into a bin and then there's a private company that comes and picks up that. Thank you, because that's what I was gonna say. How how you got it? [3:27:01, 3:27:21]: I I I got it now. I I'm okay, no problem. I understand. I understand. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Okay, thank you. I really appreciate it. You know, the guys have been working really hard as volunteers. Thank you, Mr. Cook, for putting in extra hours. And we're just kind of he's kind of kind of feeling our way through these things, and Mr. Sanders is assisting along the way. [3:27:21, 3:27:41]: Way, but this is actually a part of the RSVP plan, which is this uh coordinated trash compactor. Miss Moore actually talked about this uh when she presented many years ago, and having the community collector uh comp trash compactor back there and the and the pad being installed underneath. [3:27:41, 3:28:01]: It uh along with the grease collector. This is like the old old oil. When the oil comes out of the burner, fryer and it's burnt, they put it in there, it's recycled. This is part of the recycling program where the oil is actually recycled and put back through the system. Uh the request tonight is [3:28:01, 3:28:21]: um is for us uh you you uh to uh have our attorney and the city the the city attorney and the date attorney uh they wanted some guidance to make sure that the council was on board with supporting this action so the city attorney and the DDA attorney can sit down and write and write up a MOU. [3:28:21, 3:28:41]: So that the process can be legal between the DDA and the city. And certainly, you know, certainly we could have adopted, tried to adopt one, but they wanted to come to you. And I and I recommended that we have a discussion first and that we talk about it, and that we have the two or [3:28:41, 3:29:01]: Attorney sat down, put the document together, and that the council would indicate that you uh generally with a consensus do support uh the idea of installing and following the RSVP plan with the trash compactor uh and the grease, with the city installing the uh paying for the compactor and the [3:29:01, 3:29:21]: Concrete pad for both of these items and the dispenser itself. It makes sure that and again it's kind of incentive to any business to locate in the downtown area that they will have available trash collection at that site and that it will be uniform and that we won't have eight or ten trash collection. [3:29:21, 3:29:27]: Crash beans back there outside uh as we move forward uh with our alleyway project. [3:29:28, 3:29:30]: Any of the Commerce Council? [3:29:31, 3:29:51]: Not really a comment, just the the grease trap thing is something I thought of a while back and asked that we do that. I think it would help for yeah. Yeah, I'm a grease bin and I I um asked for that because I think that it's something that can be very costly for [3:29:51, 3:30:09]: for other businesses and restaurants. And it would be a um a draw to that to bring other businesses in the area, knowing that it's kind of like a it's not a tax abatement or anything, but it's kind of an incentive to actually be there because they're going somewhere else and they need to add one and they're a [3:30:09, 3:30:25]: And they're out of$20,000. So to have one that is is for the entire area would be, you know, a a godsend to those businesses. And it actually promotes other businesses to come to the area. [3:30:26, 3:30:27]: Ms. Barber Glay, please. [3:30:29, 3:30:39]: Thank you, Mayor. Um, I know we discussed this during our recent retreat and one of the concerns that I raised was these are private [3:30:39, 3:30:40]: Owners. [3:30:41, 3:30:46]: And I just don't feel comfortable um with the city spending money. [3:30:46, 3:30:46]: And [3:30:47, 3:30:52]: private owners um they made the investments [3:30:52, 3:30:56]: Um I would assume that they would have the resources or capital. [3:30:56, 3:30:57]: Two [3:30:57, 3:31:03]: make the necessary improvements. I know that it is our downtown and our downtown needs a lot of [3:31:04, 3:31:04]: Um [3:31:05, 3:31:06]: improvements. [3:31:06, 3:31:13]: Um, that's what we were looking for investors to do to help us to revitalize so that the city wouldn't have to. [3:31:14, 3:31:16]: Come out of this covers to help. [3:31:17, 3:31:21]: with a hundred percent of the efforts. So that's one of [3:31:21, 3:31:22]: That's my main concern. [3:31:23, 3:31:23]: That this [3:31:24, 3:31:28]: Those properties down there are all private investors. [3:31:29, 3:31:32]: They knew what it was when they purchased them. [3:31:33, 3:31:35]: With the low [3:31:36, 3:31:37]: Purchase price. [3:31:37, 3:31:43]: I would assume that they could use that as capital to make the necessary improvements. I just don't [3:31:45, 3:31:46]: I just can't. [3:31:47, 3:31:50]: Um, I don't feel comfortable with this right now. [3:31:50, 3:31:51]: That's all. [3:31:52, 3:31:53]: Ms. Burr, do you have any comments at all? [3:31:54, 3:32:08]: Uh just a question, um, in light of what's been said, have you guys um gotten to c have all the business owners in the alleyway had private meetings to see about doing this independently before bringing it to council or [3:32:08, 3:32:28]: I think this has been part of the plan way before us and uh everybody was bought was on agreement with this. But also I just want to be and uh let you know, um other municipal municipalities are doing this for other businesses from Morro to McDonough to uh various other places, they're already doing it for businesses. [3:32:28, 3:32:29]: [12752.7, 12772.6]: And this this was a discussion piece, but uh I think part of the thought process was uh or at least if I gather this right from Mr. Alexander's comments in reference to what you all thinking, that uh you want us to give approval for the both attorneys to look at this together, come up with some type of MOU. You just need a kind of con consensus for that approval. Is that what you'd like to do? Correct. [3:32:53, 3:33:13]: All right. So if there are no other comments, is there a a motion that is needed to to do this? Well, one one quick second. We can't just approve it without knowing a cost affiliated with the process. [3:33:13, 3:33:33]: MOU but it have to be signed and have to be I the other doc doc uh data I guess in reference to cost would have to be available too. That's what I'm thinking of. I mean is the DDA gonna gonna take the cost on? Is that what we're doing? No. Since it's downtown? Um my question is we need we don't have a cost. So if we're just [3:33:33, 3:33:36]: [12817.1, 12822.1]: to approve the thought of just researching and finding out what the cost would be. [3:33:42, 3:34:02]: to have those bins and whose responsibility who's gonna pay for it that service? Who's gonna pay for the is it gonna be a collective group effort to pay for the trash service? Will it be cheaper that way? Would it be individual businesses? Or are you saying y'all want the city to pay the cost of all this? I think we're in the beginning stages of of developing the MOU and then [3:34:02, 3:34:05]: And we'll come back with that discussion after the attorneys approved the language. [3:34:05, 3:34:25]: Okay, so that does that doesn't require a vote though, does it? What w what what we generally want to do is to have a discussion and to have a general consensus that we support the attorneys sitting down and talking about this. Now this has been the plan since Miss Moore was here and [3:34:25, 3:34:45]: And the city was going to pay for it. That was a part of the alleyway project that we allocated$350,000 for. The actual service, which is the trash collection, and then the grease collection, the businesses would have to pay for that. But installing the infrastructure and the in Miss Moore's presentation when she was [3:34:45, 3:35:05]: Here. The bus the city was going to pay for the trash compactor. Because the last thing we want to have in the middle of our alleyway projects is a bunch of trash cans sitting out there behind the buildings and all of this disorder. No, I can agree with that. The trash compactor does that. So the city was going to pay for that along with the uh pad for all. [3:35:05, 3:35:23]: of the business not one particular business but every business that located down there will be able to do that so they don't have trash all over the place or the trash cans uh all over the place. So the idea was again the city well it's part of the RSBV plan if you go back and look at it the city was going to [3:35:24, 3:35:30]: Pay for this infrastructure as a part of the Al it's a part of the alleyway project in the RSVP. [3:35:31, 3:35:42]: Okay. I just want if y'all can get us a cost. I mean I can't of course I can't vote on something. I don't know what the cost would be, right? But I'm definitely in favor of it. I it is definitely an incentive. [3:35:42, 3:36:02]: Um and it's specific to our downtown. So if I could just get a a cost, I don't think we have to vote on how about just a general consensus say that we want the attorneys to discuss this and come back later later time for further information. Would that be asking a question before you vote? Is that okay? Is that appropriate or inappropriate? No, they were voting. [3:36:02, 3:36:06]: I have a question for uh Councilman Bart. Okay. Well yeah, if you are well sure, go ahead. [3:36:06, 3:36:09]: Not not to be labored and we can talk offline. [3:36:10, 3:36:12]: We have other proposals coming down the line. [3:36:13, 3:36:33]: But so we're not at this impasse again. What would make you more comfortable with these decisions? Because while you state that it is a private endeavor, they are taxpayers and they are citizens and other businesses. And I'm actually a taxpayer or property owner and I'm in a downtown. But so we can make this process move smooth smoother. What would make you more comfortable? [3:36:33, 3:36:38]: before before we waste any time and we come with the right information. Cause I want to be prepared next go round. [3:36:43, 3:36:49]: I can answer. Did you qu normally questions are directed to the mayor? [3:36:50, 3:37:00]: But your question off. Oh fine, no problem, no problem. No problem. But if it is it is my understanding today. [3:37:00, 3:37:17]: Um the council is not voting on anything. We're not being asked to vote on anything. In fact, on the agenda, this is supposed to be just a discussion and it sounds like a continuation of the discussion that we had at the retreat in March. [3:37:17, 3:37:18]: And [3:37:18, 3:37:26]: You're not presenting anything new other than what we already talked about. So I support what Councilwoman Gantt has said. [3:37:27, 3:37:29]: Bring back some figures. [3:37:30, 3:37:38]: If you are looking for the city to partner in this endeavor, I also know that no former council. [3:37:38, 3:37:47]: Can bind this current council. And while there may have been discussions in years past about what to do with this alleyway project. [3:37:48, 3:37:50]: That can't bind this new council. [3:37:51, 3:37:52]: So [3:37:52, 3:37:55]: We can continue the discussions offline, just you and I. [3:37:56, 3:37:58]: Um, but I don't feel comfortable. [3:37:59, 3:38:00]: Uh supporting [3:38:01, 3:38:02]: The city. [3:38:02, 3:38:03]: Funding. [3:38:03, 3:38:23]: this particular endeavor a hundred percent at all. Understood. Thank you. And I think you have consensus for the attorneys to have conversation. All right. No problem. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. Announcements of upcoming meetings and events. Upcoming meetings, announcement that council meetings would be held, city council chamber meeting dates and location times of subject change. [3:38:23, 3:38:43]: Or contact City Hall offices at 770-389-7900 or visit the website at www.stopbridgega.org for updates. 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Join Castman Alexander for the District 5 community cleanup on Saturday, June 28th from 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. at Hudson Bridge Road. [3:40:23, 3:40:25]: Parking is available at the Walmart. [3:40:26, 3:40:46]: Tomorrow night, man. Was that on there? Yeah, I already mentioned that, sir. I believe our mother missed that. Okay. All right. I thought I'd mention that. Okay, so anyway, uh I'm sorry, it's the next page. I haven't gotten to it yet then. Okay, it's coming. Got a whole nother page here. Thank you, madam clerk. Stockbridge Middle. [3:40:46, 3:41:06]: Main Street and the city of Stockbridge government probably presents this fun community event. Get to Steppin' Stockbridge. Let's walk together on page, excuse me, on June 28th at 9 a.m. Uh complete the full round trip to go or to go on your own pace. Community members are highly encouraged to shop for fresh produce in a downtown market. [3:41:06, 3:41:26]: far uh excuse me farm to table market. It's from nine a.m. to one p.m. location one thirty ML King Senior Heritage Trail. That's coming Saturday. I join Mayor Ford for the monthly Meet the Mayor Monday, June 30th, 10 a.m. to uh noon, city and the city hall meetings by appointment. The Stopper is Police Department [3:41:26, 3:41:46]: Will host the third annual State of the Public Safety Address Tuesday, July 1st at 6 p.m. at Merrill Manor's Conference Center. Join the city of Stockbridge for a free July 4th celebration at the Amphitheater. Gates open at 5 p.m. Concert started at 7 p.m. featuring Jagged Edge. And there will be fireworks there as well. Stockbridge Main Street presents a [3:41:46, 3:42:06]: Family movie night featuring Inside and Out 2. Friday, July 11th at 7 30 at Clark Park Community Park. Clark Community Park. This is also a free event. Bring your own long chairs and blankets. Twelve and under must be accompanied by an adult. Join Councilman Thomas and Councilman Berry in a partnership with a monthly Bingo Bank. [3:42:06, 3:42:26]: Bash on Wednesday, July sixteenth from ten a.m. to twelve noon at the Murray Mano's Conference Center, and lots of fun to be had by all. Join me once again, uh, Mayor Ford, for the monthly meet the mayor, Monday, july twenty eighth, at ten a.m. to twelve noon, the city hall meetings are by appointment. Join Councilman Thomas and Army Veterans and continue to salute to all your [3:42:26, 3:42:46]: long, please send your pictures of veterans with their names, ranch, branch, rank, and years of service. Join Councilman Thomas for Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative Center around education, highlighting causes and effects and littering illegal dumping. More information of course to follow on that. 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Please contact Ros and Rawls to schedule appointment to meet the mayor or more information on council initiatives is six seven eight eight three three three three four four four four four eight or by way of email at R Rawls at Stockbridge G A dot or G [3:43:46, 3:44:06]: Okay, concert season Saturday, June twenty eighth. Legacy Legacy Legacy and Kindred uh the Family Soul will be on concerts for that. Saturday, July twelfth, all white party featuring the maze band, Juba Smith, uh Eric Bonet, David Hauser, Christopher Williams, Mike Phillips. [3:44:05, 3:44:25]: And Vivian Green, Saturday, July 26th, My Girl's Night Escape with special guest Maya. Saturday, August 16th, and Sunday, August 17th, Stockbridge Jazz Festival, hosted by Tommy Davidson, featuring David Bignon, Jazz Funk Soul, EFX All-Stars, Shaw. [3:44:25, 3:44:45]: Chandra Curley, Kurlauli, I think is how it's pronounced. Anyway, Sana uh Sonny Emory, Norman Brown, Jennifer Holliday, Karen Briggs, Eric Darius, and Keiko Matsui. Saturday, September 13th, for Lovers and Friends, featuring Tank, special guests uh Leif Jennings and Jenny Wine. [3:44:45, 3:45:05]: Friday, September 6th and uh Friday, September 6th and Saturday, September 7th, the Southern Soul weekend featuring King George, Tucker, Westlove, Poke Bear, TK Soul, Tawan Moore, and Tonio Armin Armeni. And then uh Saturday, September 20th, do the Ragat Tour. [3:45:05, 3:45:25]: twenty twenty five features Ziggy Marley and Bernie Spears. Uh for my comments, um I will tell you that uh obviously the uh this past June nineteenth we had a wonderful uh June nineteenth celebration. It was a clear good night and a rest of development they have a wonderful concert uh this past week. [3:45:25, 3:45:45]: Myself and the rest of the council were down at uh Savannah for several days, 20th to 24th of June, for our GMA annual conference. And had a great training opportunity and networking opportunity that we always have. And I want to congratulate Ms. Barber on receiving her education. [3:45:45, 3:46:05]: Educational uh advancement and the uh what's that certificate of distinction for all the classes she has taken thus far. And uh I also got recognized for being part of the inaugural 400 club. 400 plus hours of education training in the last 12 years, and myself and uh eight other people were inducted in this 400 club for this aspect. [3:46:05, 3:46:10]: And um on that note, uh I'm sorry, ma'am. [3:46:11, 3:46:23]: Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I appreciate that. It is a big deal. Thank you. And um on that note, it of course it's hot outside, so make sure you stay cool, be hydrated. [3:46:23, 3:46:25]: And it is hot Atlanta. [3:46:25, 3:46:27]: And so just be safe and be careful. [3:46:27, 3:46:36]: On that note, uh council, I don't know of any uh any executive sessions issues or discussion, so I'll ask for a motion to adjourn our meeting. [3:46:36, 3:46:37]: Is there a second? [3:46:38, 3:46:40]: All fair, please indicate. [3:46:40, 3:46:43]: Okay. We are now adjourned. God bless you all and good night. [3:47:01, 3:47:02]: All right, nice.

--- title: City Council Special Called Meeting date: 2025-06-16 source: 2025-06-16_City_Council_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:47, 0:01:02]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have now, let's see here, four fifty-six and I'll call the special call meeting to order on this um Monday, June 16th. And uh please stand for a prayer if you can. [0:01:04, 0:01:24]: Lord, thank you for bringing us together once again to do the city's business. Allow us to conduct and make logical decisions this evening. Be us always, Lord, in your name. Amen. And do pledge legislation. Pledge legions. The United States of America into the Republic before which it stands, one nation, under God, independent as well. [0:01:23, 0:01:25]: So the liberty and justice for all. [0:01:28, 0:01:30]: Madam Clerk, roll call please? [0:01:35, 0:01:35]: Present. [0:01:48, 0:01:49]: Present. [0:01:50, 0:01:51]: Present. [0:01:51, 0:01:52]: President. [0:01:53, 0:02:00]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. Mayor. Yes, sir. [0:02:00, 0:02:01]: Uh adopt the agenda. [0:02:02, 0:02:03]: Thank you, is there a second? [0:02:04, 0:02:08]: Second. Okay. Okay, Mr. Berry, second that all favor, please indicate. [0:02:08, 0:02:20]: Okay, so announced decision there. Okay, what first we'll have new business council consideration to approve the 2025-2026 liability insurance policy. Please. Renee. [0:02:31, 0:02:32]: A afternoon. [0:02:34, 0:02:35]: Is it Mike on? [0:02:38, 0:02:39]: Afternoon to you. [0:02:45, 0:02:47]: Property in my instruments. [0:02:48, 0:02:50]: have before you is council's consideration. [0:02:51, 0:02:53]: Happy look. [0:02:53, 0:03:12]: Of the 2025 general liability insurance for the city. Our renewal um date is uh upon us and we are pending, we're going through an audit right now based on our uh vehicle list. So what we're doing is we're asking for pending approval. [0:03:13, 0:03:14]: for the insurance that will [0:03:14, 0:03:17]: It needs to be re renewed by June nineteenth. [0:03:18, 0:03:20]: And then we will come back once the [0:03:21, 0:03:22]: uh audit is completed. [0:03:22, 0:03:25]: to have you uh approve the [0:03:25, 0:03:26]: Final numbers. [0:03:27, 0:03:29]: Okay. Any questions, council? [0:03:32, 0:03:33]: Wait f I please? [0:03:34, 0:03:37]: The current contract expires June nineteenth. [0:03:37, 0:03:38]: Yes. [0:03:39, 0:03:40]: Okay. [0:03:40, 0:03:44]: One of the concerns that I have consistently raised. [0:03:45, 0:03:56]: is um you leave no room for the council to provide guidance with you if you're bringing this to us three days before it expires. [0:03:57, 0:03:59]: We don't have any other choice. [0:03:59, 0:04:07]: But to approve it because it's being dropped in our lab. What I like to see is a compare is this the only quote we have? [0:04:09, 0:04:29]: Yes, this is the only quote. This is the broker that we have, and we're not asking, we're asking for pending approval for the insurance so that it would not lapse until we finalize our premium, our numbers uh that we need to do with the vehicle listing that we have. So it's strictly for the auto liability portion of [0:04:29, 0:04:35]: So we're just asking you did this go through procurement? [0:04:37, 0:04:41]: This this is a contract renewal. We don't have to go through procurement with this. I know, but [0:04:42, 0:04:48]: If it so it tells me that it didn't go through procurement, if it had gone through procurement [0:04:48, 0:04:49]: They would have known [0:04:49, 0:04:50]: Months ago. [0:04:50, 0:04:52]: That this was coming up for [0:04:52, 0:04:55]: renewal and they would have done their due diligence to get [0:04:56, 0:04:58]: additional quotes just to compare. [0:04:58, 0:05:00]: Cause I see that [0:05:00, 0:05:04]: With this renewal that you're asking for, there's an increase. [0:05:05, 0:05:07]: A premium increase. [0:05:07, 0:05:09]: Over a hundred thousand dollars. [0:05:10, 0:05:26]: Based on the increase in the number of vehicles that we currently have with the city, there has been uh a number of vehicles that have been purchased. Some vehicles were not on the uh curmer policy that was already covered. [0:05:26, 0:05:34]: When the in we went back to the insurance company and they found that those vehicles were on there that they not h covered from the previous year. [0:05:35, 0:05:38]: Then they added it in in there so there is an amount [0:05:39, 0:05:41]: There is going to be an increase. [0:05:41, 0:05:41]: From [0:05:42, 0:05:44]: One forty two to one seventy two. [0:05:44, 0:05:49]: We are looking at what those n what that number is, those thirty vehicles are. [0:05:49, 0:05:51]: Um to determine if the [0:05:52, 0:05:54]: Increase is warranted. [0:05:54, 0:05:57]: um under the auto liability insurance. [0:05:58, 0:06:05]: And under this we didn't have to go out to bid. I don't believe we w went forward with the current broker that we we have on on record. [0:06:08, 0:06:09]: Thank you. [0:06:09, 0:06:10]: You're welcome. [0:06:10, 0:06:13]: Any other questions, Council? Yeah, go right here, sir. [0:06:14, 0:06:26]: Yes, Miss Wheeler, were those thirty vehicles that were previously not on there, were they uninsured? Are these new vehicles or these vehicles that have been in the inventory for a while? They're pending the inventory as [0:06:26, 0:06:36]: um as as we speak. So we're determining if those vehicles were actually on the vehicle list that we sent over to the uh [0:06:37, 0:06:38]: insurance company. [0:06:38, 0:06:41]: For this year, when it came up for renewal. [0:06:41, 0:06:47]: And when the numbers when it came back, we started working on um reviewing that list. [0:06:47, 0:06:50]: This would have been brought to you uh thirty and thirty days ago. [0:06:51, 0:06:51]: But [0:06:51, 0:07:00]: Due to the increase in the premium, we wanted to verify the information that we were we had given to verify that the premium was justified. [0:07:00, 0:07:05]: And where what department of the thir do these thirty vehicles belong to? [0:07:06, 0:07:21]: We're looking at pub well, public works and police have the bulk of the vehicles that we're looking at. So that's where the audit is taking place. Okay. Do you have a breakdown of which of the thirties which which thirty go to public works? That's what we're trying to determine now. [0:07:21, 0:07:22]: Okay. [0:07:25, 0:07:25]: Thank you. [0:07:26, 0:07:36]: Well You go right, you got a question, sir. Yeah, so how many how Ms. Wheeler, so how many uh renewals do we have before we do have to actually solicit a bid? [0:07:37, 0:07:39]: Well we would [0:07:39, 0:07:56]: went through this uh whole process of uh changing brokers um about a year or two years ago um when risk management was uh switched over. And so when we go through the renewal is for the whole city of everything that properties, um [0:07:57, 0:08:07]: cyber security, everything that a city owns has to go on this. So what happens is that if there is no problem with the contract that we currently have, [0:08:07, 0:08:08]: With the vendor. [0:08:09, 0:08:19]: then procurement will send that over to us. I send it back that the vendor has met all the requirements uh that we needed, and then they basically [0:08:19, 0:08:22]: I send it back and we we go from there meet [0:08:22, 0:08:24]: With the vendor and um [0:08:25, 0:08:27]: go through the process of getting everything renewed. [0:08:27, 0:08:45]: So there is no three year one three nerd three year period, five year period, wherever it automatically goes back out to solicit to see what the market was there. No, not right now. Okay. Uh I thought we had something I guess uh I don't think we have that in there. I mean [0:08:47, 0:09:07]: Shakira's not here for me to ask of that question. Right, the witch Quinton was here. I thought that's what was real routine that we would send something out every maybe every three or four years to have it come back to us so that we understood truly what the market would bear. And uh certainly um I think that would be appropriate. And so this one you're you're saying it's on the [0:09:07, 0:09:17]: second year we just did it last year. So this would be twenty twenty two, twenty twenty four. [0:09:18, 0:09:21]: Із when we uh brought this before you. [0:09:21, 0:09:22]: Mm. Um [0:09:23, 0:09:25]: For the initial contract, I believe. [0:09:26, 0:09:29]: Is that some sir, do you have the daters? [0:09:30, 0:09:47]: Rikes, I I think we're parsing two separate things right now. The s the contract she's referencing. Please introduce yourself, by the way. Oh sorry, I'm forgive me. My name is Matt Simmons. Um senior director of Gallagher's Public Sector Practice. Uh I operate as part of your uh brokerage team. Um I think I can clarify um a few things on this. [0:09:47, 0:10:07]: So our job as the broker um is to solicit options for you every year. So there are um when we first became the broker for the city of College Park or sorry, I've got three council meetings today, City of Stockbridge. Um three years ago, we went out and took a look. Um some of the markets that are standard in this place um [0:10:07, 0:10:27]: Liberty Mutual, Trident, would not offer quotes on the City of Stockbridge for whatever reason, whether based on location, exposure size, loss experience. Gallagher, as your broker, is not paid by the city. We are, I think that that's where some of the uh confusion is coming, because typically from a procurement standpoint, for the brokerage services, we are not paid by the city, we are paid by the insurance company. [0:10:27, 0:10:47]: So there's not a next cost for the City of Stockbridge for our services. But what we do is we evaluate your options every single year. One of the things, one of the reasons we're looking at specific travels this year, your renewal is traditionally this time of year. Your fiscal year is January 1st, makes it very difficult to buy. [0:10:47, 0:10:55]: budget. What we're doing this year is, and we've negotiated this with travelers, is doing what is called a cancel rewrite. [0:10:56, 0:11:16]: What's in front of you is an annualized term. It's actually only going to go until December 31st, when we are going to reset your renewal date to align with your fiscal year so that moving forward, we can actually budget for we can put in the budget what we expect the renewal to look like. And moving forward, your renewal will come every year, January. [0:11:16, 0:11:18]: January one, which aligns with your fiscal year. [0:11:19, 0:11:34]: So that's one of the reasons why the focus has been on your current partner, because your current partner has the greatest likelihood of making an accommodation like that for the city of Stockbird so that we can better align and better budget and better manage your insurance program moving forward. [0:11:35, 0:11:55]: Well certainly I do understand that you're the broker and that you will be referring uh the best option and that you were opinionated. But my question basically was for your position, that doesn't go back out to anybody else. Surely there are other uh obviously you would probably do a fine job, but there are others that offer you a service, correct? Yes, sir. [0:11:55, 0:12:15]: Okay, so certainly uh a one to three would probably be appropriate for even this, so that uh we would evaluate what's going on with even this level, and I understand uh you know, but certainly others should be given an opportunity to be the broker for the city at some point. So um we need to look [0:12:14, 0:12:20]: At making that happen. This is the third year or second year. Do you have the dates? Do you have the dates, sir? [0:12:22, 0:12:42]: I mean when we first became the broker for the city of uh Stockbridge would have been in twenty um let me do the number of renewals that I've done. Um twenty four, twenty-five, twenty three, twenty four. It would have been um in uh I believe either the end of twenty two or the beginning of twenty three,'cause I believe that this is the third renewal that we have done [0:12:42, 0:12:44]: Uh for the city of Stockbridge. [0:12:44, 0:13:04]: Right. And typically what we had wanted was to see something every, you know, three years or so that would come back to the council. Uh that's kind of the language I think we had adopted in some procurement changes that we have made uh previously. So I think that's something that we should probably look into. Just everything that we [0:13:04, 0:13:24]: Do at the city at some point someone has an option at it and we could go back to kind of look at it. So that's kind of where we are now, but certainly we have business to conduct today uh in terms of where we are. And again, the the the expiration date is on July 19th, so certain June 19th, so that's only three days. [0:13:24, 0:13:31]: from here, so something has to be done. Also, I would like to ask you, sir, while you're at the podium, now it has been [0:13:32, 0:13:46]: said that the hundred thousand dollar in increase in the policies were related to new vehicles. Do you have a breakdown on what the increase is and how that should be explained uh from your side? [0:13:47, 0:14:07]: So you're looking at roughly about uh$79,000 of your increase is uh is attributed to your auto liability, um, which was going from 142 vehicles to 178 vehicles. Um so that's about$79,000 of the renewal is attributed there. Um the other primary [0:14:07, 0:14:27]: Primary driver on it is uh property. Um your property values were increased by five million dollars to keep up with uh the rate of inflation. Um and so we're seeing um and but also the property market continues to be very difficult as we see. I mean the month of months of May. [0:14:27, 0:14:41]: in June alone from a rain standpoint, we're seeing increases in storm activity, things like that. So we'll continue to see rates increase in property. But the rest of your uh renewal is primarily attributed when we look at that to the um [0:14:42, 0:14:49]: to the uh uh property mar uh property area and then there are a couple of other items um [0:14:49, 0:15:09]: And when you say property, you mean risk or you mean the the market value going? Pro no no the property in the cost for property insurance. And the and the increase in risk for property. The increase in the risk for the property. The risk the the risk is continuing to increase as we see, you know, we see what just in the fall we see what Hurricane Helene did to Georgia. Um that was a uh [0:15:09, 0:15:21]: um thousand year event um that came through. We are seeing increases in those type of storms. So we are seeing property rates continue to increase. Um which is where you see a uh a significant driver um [0:15:22, 0:15:36]: on your property premium. You'll see you'll note that it went from uh$122,000 to$150,000. Um and part of that is attributed to uh increase in values, um, but then just increase in exposure. [0:15:37, 0:15:46]: But not was that necessarily something that's just market wise or was that why it's it's it's a factor that [0:15:47, 0:15:47]: You know. [0:15:48, 0:15:50]: Wildfires in California. [0:15:50, 0:16:10]: That travel insurance impacts you. Coastal exposures impacts you because it impacts the overall underwriting of the uh of risks. Right. That's what I wanted to know. Was it anything specific related to anything the city had done? But this is just a market trend, is what correct. And when you look at the auto, auto rates just keep going up. You've looked at your own personal auto. [0:16:10, 0:16:23]: Right, certainly I've looked at the right. One of the things that we're hoping on is that the uh toll reform bill has a has a big impact on this stuff, but we continue to see s higher and higher verdicts, um, especially against uh local governments. [0:16:24, 0:16:25]: Thank you. [0:16:26, 0:16:27]: Ms. Gand, do you have a question? [0:16:28, 0:16:31]: I think um Councilman Alexander kinda [0:16:33, 0:16:44]: spoke on it. I see here that there's a difference in net rate changes that are drastically uh not really that large. Um I see the auto went up eighteen percent. [0:16:44, 0:16:50]: But and then you look at the physical damage, it actually went down twenty nine point six. [0:16:51, 0:17:08]: Um so are you saying that's due to the increase of auto you said that was due to the increase of automobiles that we have receiv we're getting. So your liability went up, um went up. Um it's not a it's not a perfect science, a perfect math. We we show out these analysts trying to help. [0:17:08, 0:17:09]: Show the story. [0:17:10, 0:17:15]: Um but when you when you note that your um your auto physical damage premium [0:17:15, 0:17:35]: Came down, the number of vehicles went up, but the premium came down. That's where we get with from a net standpoint. Um, you know, premium increase, less exposure increase. Um, so when exposures go down, and we try to look at that also, because for example, when you buy, um, if you buy 30 vehicles, you have to pay insurance for those 30 vehicles. And one of the things we want to show the story on is [0:17:35, 0:17:55]: It's not that the rates are going through the roof, it's that we have more exposures. Similarly, if we added five million dollars in payroll, your workers' comp numbers would increase dramatically. Okay. So that's what we're showing there. And to try and show kind of on a net basis what are some of the trends that we're looking at. Um, you know, there's some things in here. Um you know there has been claim activity. Um but they're not they're not due to [0:17:55, 0:17:55]: Thank you. [0:17:56, 0:18:04]: a car accident or anything, automobile accidents or anything of that nature. Correct. Well so your rates do shift based on your losses? [0:18:04, 0:18:24]: Um but we try to kind of show, hey, can we say is this um when we look at that net change, is the is, you know, we look for kind of reasonable realms of it for prime example is um your general liability, 11%. That's kind of an average market rate that that we're looking at, 18% on auto. It's kind of an average. [0:18:24, 0:18:36]: average market rate. If we saw a thirty five percent net rate change, we'd probably be talking about that there's some law it's some loss driven because that the rate is built out based on market factors and experience rating as well. [0:18:36, 0:18:56]: And what about employment practice liability? It went up twenty um twenty point nine percent. There have been some um uh there's been some claim activity there. Um so that's that's part of that's a part of that. Um that's not necessarily something for me um prepared to get into specifics on right now, but there has been claim activity. Okay. [0:18:56, 0:19:10]: So the cost of employment activities due to any claim activity. Exactly. And so the umbrella at forty six so we're we're up forty six point two percent. So I need to know, you know, I I understand [0:19:10, 0:19:30]: Just like a cost of living increase or anything else, you know, our cost of living, what is that 3.5% or something that we normally do, 3.3, 3.5. This is like double that in one almost 50% increase. And I need to know specifics on what's driving that so we can make arrangements to keep that down. [0:19:30, 0:19:37]: Um and you may not want to touch on that right now. We probably shouldn't, but um [0:19:37, 0:19:52]: I definitely wanna touch on it in executive session if that's part of something that we have to deal with. Um, especially if it is a twenty uh which cause a double, almost double under the entire umbrella at forty six point two percent. [0:19:53, 0:20:03]: Well as I mentioned s some of it is experience rated, some of it is market factors and and there's a there's a blend of those, but those things are certainly at a different time we can we can um [0:20:04, 0:20:13]: Oh I'm sorry. Um the there's the market factor and the experience factor and those things that we can talk about at at at a time when we're paired with that information. Okay. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. [0:20:15, 0:20:17]: Any other questions? Go ahead, please. [0:20:17, 0:20:24]: Um, Mr. Malazi, does this go through at least for our treasurer to review? [0:20:25, 0:20:25]: Yeah. [0:20:26, 0:20:28]: Mr. Malati. He's coming. [0:20:34, 0:20:39]: My understanding is you have taken a look at this. What is your recommendation? [0:20:40, 0:21:00]: I think that's the reason why she has said depending on the outcome of the assessment that is being done. So until then there's no figure that you are going to approve. The approval that you are going to make is just because of the three days that are there because [0:21:00, 0:21:20]: Um they have not accepted an extension. We did extend first one so that we could do the um assessment. Um then that one did not come up with what we wanted. The same questions that she has brought it up. Uh actually it's not 100. [0:21:20, 0:21:30]: over two hundred thousand increase. So pending on that then we will put the amount, if that amount can come down. [0:21:31, 0:21:37]: after giving out the reason why that extensive increase. [0:21:37, 0:21:42]: So should we expect that the amount would be greater than what [0:21:42, 0:21:48]: Is being proposed here today? It will be or will it be less? That's where we went to. [0:21:49, 0:22:09]: We want to hear. Otherwise you would have considered this the past council meeting that we had. So we asked for one month extension. Um it would have been due or expiring on the eighteenth of May, but we had to review why there's the [0:22:08, 0:22:25]: that hike. Why they that increase? And that process has not finished. So we ask for another extension, but they say they can't extend. Therefore we are we have three days. [0:22:26, 0:22:28]: But instead of asking you to approve it. [0:22:28, 0:22:31]: We are asking you to consider it [0:22:31, 0:22:34]: Depending on the outcome of the [0:22:35, 0:22:36]: I said Smith. [0:22:38, 0:22:46]: The forty two percent is just out of but uh they will help us to be where we are supposed to be. [0:22:49, 0:22:51]: That's how I can answer it. [0:22:53, 0:22:54]: Any other questions? [0:22:57, 0:23:01]: We met with the city manager, H. I was there. We met with them. [0:23:05, 0:23:18]: Okay. So you you're looking for an an um approval to extend it out a little further until you f have the final analysis, I guess you can say. So we do not stay without the coverage. Any coverage. [0:23:19, 0:23:25]: The coverage we need is it would have been there if there was an extension. So there's no extension. [0:23:26, 0:23:34]: then if the the don't extend come nineteenth will be out of coverage, which is not what we want. So we are compelled [0:23:35, 0:23:36]: To have it. [0:23:37, 0:23:40]: But without the amount there, because that amount [0:23:41, 0:23:43]: Unless otherwise we've changed. [0:23:43, 0:23:45]: Mm-hmm. [0:23:46, 0:23:52]: So otherwise council, I guess we need the verbiage to to ask for that and get your approval if that's the case. Will of the council. [0:23:54, 0:24:08]: How long do you anticipate after say we are able to give this approval today to make sure we have coverage beyond the 19th? How long before something will come back to this council that's more firm and concrete for long-term solutions? [0:24:09, 0:24:15]: It will be based on the outcome of the reconciliation that will be there. So w [0:24:18, 0:24:22]: Give you an example, our next council meeting after nice the twenty fifth of of this month. Would that work? [0:24:24, 0:24:27]: It's a possibility it will work by the twenty fifth. [0:24:30, 0:24:38]: We are finalizing the numbers as we speak. So once we uh finalize those numbers, we send it back to the broker. [0:24:38, 0:24:40]: For them to uh give to travelers. [0:24:41, 0:24:43]: So they can look at to make sure that [0:24:44, 0:24:45]: We're we we're [0:24:45, 0:24:47]: You know, comparing apples to apples. [0:24:48, 0:24:50]: Once that's back, then we will come back to the council. [0:24:50, 0:24:52]: Hopefully by the twenty fifth. [0:24:52, 0:24:57]: And I think we should be able to to provide that information back to council for your review. [0:25:00, 0:25:10]: Any other questions? Or whenever the next council is a good question. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. Uh Mr. Mayor I just wanted I just wanna add uh uh Councilman Gann, um one thing I wanna make sure'cause obviously you're focused on the net rates and everything. [0:25:11, 0:25:17]: I did want to point out that when we look at the overall program from a net perspective to your point, we're looking at an eight and a half percent. [0:25:18, 0:25:19]: That is actually very positive. [0:25:20, 0:25:26]: So that again, it's kind of a yeah, I know that that's something that that you have great concern about and I was just no looking at it, I wanna make sure I made that mention to you. [0:25:26, 0:25:34]: That the net of an eight and a half percent is actually very good in the current market from an overall perspective. I just want to make sure that um I pointed that out. [0:25:34, 0:25:35]: Yep. [0:25:36, 0:25:39]: Thank you for pointing that. I appreciate it. [0:25:39, 0:25:59]: All right. So we have a a motion to go forward. Mayor, I make a motion that we give them this uh grace extension to explore um the policy coverage changes so that there is no lapse in coverage and pending a [0:25:59, 0:26:03]: uh follow up with counsel by the next meeting the twenty fifth. [0:26:04, 0:26:24]: To a second emotion. Mayor, I like the second emotion, but I want to emphasize what I said previously that the staff would go out and endeavor to look to see whether or not there are other options in terms of every program that we do in terms of the broker as well. So certainly I will let that would be appropriate in this situation as a second. Is that [0:26:24, 0:26:33]: Okay, Mr. Berry? Yeah. Yes. Is there an and also is there an NTE on this? I know we have eight thirty-one listed. [0:26:35, 0:26:38]: Uh not to exceed is there an amount not to exceed [0:26:41, 0:26:41]: Mm-hmm. [0:26:41, 0:26:51]: I if I may, this is the renewal provided by travelers and the other carriers that make up your program, whether it's the uh you have fiduciary pollution, um, cyber. Um [0:26:53, 0:26:55]: What is being undertaken is that [0:26:55, 0:26:59]: There is a question about how many vehicles are being properly rated. [0:27:00, 0:27:05]: There will be an adjustment based on the number of vehicles by the carrier because they have to [0:27:05, 0:27:07]: Прокур при то обтань преміум [0:27:07, 0:27:09]: appropriately for the exposure. [0:27:10, 0:27:17]: And so if there's 178 vehicles, this is your number. If there's a hundred and fifty vehicles, that number is going to come down. [0:27:17, 0:27:37]: If there's 180 vehicles, there's two additional vehicles that have to be insured that have to identify the insurance for it. Um so that is a variable number, but they have agreed that if there are fewer vehicles, they will provide a premium credit. Premium credit because there could be there could be vehicles on there that [0:27:37, 0:27:57]: should have been taken off, but somebody never communicated to the right department. And I know that one of the one of the things that we've been moving towards is that now that we have additional staff to focus on risk, we're able to start getting a lot of that stuff done, which can also address some of the issues around loss-driven experience and put a lot of programs and procedures in place. One of these, and while this is a [0:27:57, 0:28:09]: a difficult and painstaking process, it's a valuable process because we're starting to identify are we properly cataloging our exposures and reporting them and tracking them, make sure that other departments are communicating. But [0:28:09, 0:28:16]: It is potentially variable. Again, if there's two hundred vehicles that just weren't that are on the schedule, that will [0:28:17, 0:28:23]: being um those will have to be rated for to be insured for. Now if it turns out that there were vehicles that [0:28:24, 0:28:35]: haven't been in the past, I think you had this question, you were not without insurance on those. You're on what's called a composite rated schedule. So vehicles that are added and and subtracted during the policy term are automatically covered. [0:28:36, 0:28:49]: Um, but so if if it if you bought vehicles during the policy term, if you weren't without them, they're automatically covered by the way the insurance, we've structured the insurance. But if our reported vehicles are different, that number will change. Okay. [0:28:50, 0:29:05]: Uh Mr. Mayor, I um I'll amend that to say with the best rate possible language. All right. That it would present us the best rate. Okay. Based on the circumstances of vehicles that are either commissioned or decommissioned. [0:29:06, 0:29:07]: Moving forward. [0:29:08, 0:29:08]: All right. [0:29:09, 0:29:10]: With the language that I had, it's a second. [0:29:13, 0:29:18]: Okay. Did we get that I don't know, Miss Ms. Holiday, do you h have all that? [0:29:26, 0:29:30]: Twenty next count they said next council meeting the twenty. [0:29:36, 0:29:55]: Um right now pending a pending approval by the January twenty fifth meeting, you've asked for that to be with the best rate possible. Um and Council now added to look for options for other brokers. Is that part of the motion as well? Yes. Okay, so that's what I have now. [0:29:55, 0:29:56]: Okay. And that it's a good thing. [0:30:01, 0:30:02]: Yes. So [0:30:05, 0:30:21]: You all question just one comment. Let me just say this. I'm looking at the difference in what we're paying now versus what they're explaining or I um it's not that big of a difference. No. I mean, it really isn't. It's like [0:30:21, 0:30:28]: Um, for a grand total premium of six hundred and seventy-five thousand four hundred and ten dollars. That's our existing program. [0:30:29, 0:30:31]: In the proposed program [0:30:31, 0:30:45]: for twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six is a total of eight hundred and thirty one thousand eight hundred and sixty one dollars. So with the increase of the auto vehicles and some of the other explanations, I get it. Plus, I mean we all have these [0:30:45, 0:30:59]: increases everything is increasing. So I don't want anyone to think that I'm saying, oh wait a minute, they are robbing us blind. That's not the case. I just have some questions about some of the calculations in regards to things that our staff [0:30:59, 0:31:08]: And mayor and council needs to start paying attention to on what premium, what causes those increases besides the normal. [0:31:08, 0:31:12]: you know, I I say cost of living, but the normal market val market value. [0:31:12, 0:31:32]: Um, if there's something that raises a red flag that actually spikes, then I want to bring that to the attention of Mayor and Council. But the difference in regards to where we were these past years compared to now, I I don't see a great difference. I don't own I don't think it's outrageous. Just so in my opinion. [0:31:33, 0:31:40]: Okay, so we got a motion to a couple of different additions to that motion. Miss uh Holiday has that uh identified. Miss Barber, you have something else? [0:31:41, 0:31:43]: Yeah. Mr. Malazi stood up. [0:31:44, 0:31:47]: Yeah, something else you wanted to add. [0:31:47, 0:32:00]: I don't see there will be any difference by the next meeting with where we have come from and where we are now, expecting that on the twenty fifth it will be resolved unless he guarantees that it will be resolved. [0:32:01, 0:32:07]: Yeah, I I can't guarantee anything until we receive uh uh a vehicle count. [0:32:07, 0:32:26]: Okay, so if you don't think that in your professional opinion, what what type deadline do you recommend? So w if we wanna accept that deadline we can make some adjustments in the motion. My best was if they were to extend for another month because uh Mayor, we were together in the meeting, you know what we went through. It would be the same. [0:32:26, 0:32:32]: All right. So another month brings it back into July, which is July five July fourteenth, I believe it is. [0:32:34, 0:32:40]: But see the qu the the question really is the council would wanna council wanna wait that long and make the adjustments in the the motion for that. [0:32:41, 0:32:44]: Uh let's see here. Let's about double check uh what that date would be. [0:32:45, 0:32:48]: It is july fourteenth. Okay. So it would be we're talking about [0:32:49, 0:33:09]: You're talking about another next month, that's July fourteenth. Now that's up to the council if they want to m actually come, I'll tell you come back to Mr. Berry because you initially uh mentioned this. Yeah, I I feel the if the fourteenth is a more reasonable day date to address the vehicle inventory concerns because I think that's everything hinges on whether or not vehicles either stay on [0:33:09, 0:33:29]: Or come off. I think that's the biggest determining factor in this rate, right? Whether or not the new vehicles come on and then there are some older vehicles that will be coming off that are decommissioned. So that I guess the be better question is how much time will it take to truly do a vehicle inventory for the city vehicles? Is it 30 days? [0:33:29, 0:33:30]: Is it fifteen days? Is it a little bit of a little bit of a little [0:33:31, 0:33:51]: We are currently doing it right now. And the problem is that even with the older vehicles, if they are still on our property, we have to cover them. They have not been surplused. So until they're surplused and taken off the city roll, then we have to continue to cover them. So if [0:33:50, 0:34:03]: If they have sixty two brand new vehicles and thirty of them are old and they have not surplused them, we are gonna have to cover them no matter what. So, you know, that could be the difference. It could be that um [0:34:04, 0:34:10]: It could be a number of factors that I'm getting from the departments on exactly what they have on their property. [0:34:11, 0:34:12]: So [0:34:13, 0:34:20]: You know, we this is the number that we received the for the renewal for from the insurance company. [0:34:20, 0:34:22]: The broker has gone out. [0:34:22, 0:34:25]: He has gone out to the various companies. [0:34:25, 0:34:27]: to bring back us a renewal. [0:34:28, 0:34:36]: That's what the broker does. So it doesn't matter who the broker is, it's the insurance company that drives what we pay in premiums. [0:34:37, 0:34:46]: So if you don't foresee needing that extra time, we can leave the m the motion as it is. If you think So we need to the council ask the council to approve. [0:34:46, 0:34:50]: The liability insurance so the city will not be without coverage. [0:34:50, 0:34:52]: If there is a change, a credit [0:34:53, 0:34:54]: Will be issued. [0:34:54, 0:34:55]: Based on the [0:34:55, 0:34:56]: Vehicle [0:34:56, 0:34:58]: Listing that we're going to provide them. [0:34:59, 0:35:01]: And if not, then this number stays the same. [0:35:01, 0:35:06]: Yeah, but we cannot get an extension of thirty days. [0:35:06, 0:35:20]: I'm saying what Mr. Malazi just said thirty more. And we that we've already tried that with the insurance company. They will not an extension, but I'm saying to repass this and ask for what? We're asking for thirty more days to [0:35:21, 0:35:24]: To do the inventory on a pending approval? Uh-huh. [0:35:24, 0:35:39]: Good. So I guess you you brought this up. You you gave it you said about thirty days or w next meeting would be the fourteenth of July. You said that, sir, or y you recommended a long a time. So you your your thought process and how this can go. I don't want us to come on the twenty fifth [0:35:40, 0:35:44]: And we're still where we are today because [0:35:44, 0:36:04]: Mayor you know when we discussed initially it was we acquire new between thirty and forty vehicles. We didn't buy those vehicles. Right. Then at a later time it was it's not the old vehicles. They are the new vehicles. Ah the old vehicles, it's not the new vehicles. [0:36:04, 0:36:05]: This is the old vehicles. [0:36:05, 0:36:08]: Then we said, okay, if they odd vehicles [0:36:09, 0:36:10]: How did you [0:36:11, 0:36:12]: Cover them last year. [0:36:13, 0:36:14]: For the past two years. [0:36:15, 0:36:18]: Where were they those vehicles that now they are extra? [0:36:19, 0:36:24]: So those are areas where we get into the new extra thirty forty is no longer there. [0:36:25, 0:36:27]: But we have the new [0:36:27, 0:36:28]: Additional [0:36:29, 0:36:30]: For the vehicles. [0:36:31, 0:36:37]: that are old. So how did we cover last year or the past two years? [0:36:38, 0:36:42]: That's reconciliation. So if the we are reconciling something that was already covered. [0:36:44, 0:36:48]: So I just don't want to come the twenty fifth. [0:36:48, 0:36:53]: We may approve the same number because that reconciliation may not be done. [0:36:55, 0:37:07]: All right. So we accepted a later time frame might uh uh the next meeting after the twenty fifth is scheduled to be the fourteenth. It so otherwise is that acceptable or not. But they are saying if uh it passes the [0:37:08, 0:37:19]: twenty fifth, then it will not be covered. Now my question will be then how are we being covered to twenty fifth? How will be covered to twenty fifth? [0:37:19, 0:37:25]: Go ahead you go go ahead, sir. And it's I don't make it my business to get in the middle of city business, if I may. [0:37:26, 0:37:39]: The insurance renewal is ready to be approved. What I think is where everybody's trying to get towards, if I can demystify this, is to come back and provide a report on what is the actual number of vehicles and what, if any, credit or [0:37:39, 0:37:41]: additional premium is owed [0:37:41, 0:38:01]: based on the number of vehicles. Because what should happen today, for forgive me, my my my recommendation would be to approve the renewal so that the city can move forward so we can start moving towards our strategy of resetting your insurance date come this January so it aligns with your budget so that you don't have to run into [0:38:01, 0:38:21]: Did we budget for the increase or not? Because we've already planned for that. But then my recommendation would be to come back and say we've done an audit, we've identified that we have 185 vehicles, or we have 130 vehicles, or what is. Here's the results from the uh insurance carrier of a credit and/or additional premium owed. But um I can tell you that from a [0:38:21, 0:38:23]: Insurance renewal standpoint. [0:38:24, 0:38:27]: The insurance for the city of Stockbridge needs to be renewed. [0:38:27, 0:38:32]: B so that we do not lapse coverage at twelve oh one AM on Thursday. [0:38:32, 0:38:37]: Um because it's not just the travelers piece, it includes your cyber insurance, it includes your fiduciary. [0:38:37, 0:38:43]: Liability insurance could include your um um your pollution uh storage tank insurance. Yeah. Um [0:38:44, 0:38:51]: But I think that approve the renewal and then come back with a report on what are the number of vehicles, was there a credit or additional premium mode? [0:38:51, 0:39:11]: Mm-hmm. Okay. Thank you for that. Yes, sir. Yeah, I just cut to the chase. How much time do you need? You need thirty days for the pending approval? You need thirty days for that? What for me? I need I need approval to renew your insurance. But regarding a review of the of the vehicles, that's not something that I do. It's not something I can do. So you need a actual renewal. [0:39:11, 0:39:31]: Renew your insurance. I need to renew your insurance so that so that you do not go without coverage. The request that was made by the staff was to have a pending approval, so that's not something that you that you offer? No, no, no, it's not something that's I I think it was just a mixing of of of words. [0:39:31, 0:39:33]: Mm-hmm. [0:39:33, 0:39:53]: Approve this number pending that it could change, I think is is what we're looking at. Approve the renewal with the understanding that it could change because we did an extension. We brought this, we brought this to the city at the beginning of May. There was a we're an extension was requested to identify did we have the right number of vehicles? And we are now at the end of that extension. Um we had each carrier uh provide that. [0:39:53, 0:40:13]: That extension. And so we want to go ahead and get you moving forward because we know that we can make the adjustments once we identify the vehicles. In terms of a vehicle audit, that's not on our side, it's on the city's side. Well basically what you need is what was told to us is there's no pending. You need an actual approval. I need approved in order to move. [0:40:13, 0:40:33]: Forward, you will bring back a revised or a revision of what uh if there is one. If there is a revision, we will bring that to us to notify us of what that might be. But if we don't have an approval today, our insurance is gonna lapse on the nineteenth. Yes, sir. So the correct NTE is actually on this paper, which is the eight hundred thirty. [0:40:33, 0:40:38]: [2439.1, 2459.1]: Unless there are more vehicles than 178. And then there will be additional premium. But if there are less vehicles than there's less vehicle that can come down. Um correct. Um and again, this will not all be born in this fiscal year because strategically we are restructuring it so that you no longer are trying to budget for a May renewal. [0:40:59, 0:41:02]: in October, which is near impossible. [0:41:02, 0:41:18]: And if we were to remove certain vehicles from the fleet as well at any time, there can be an a an adjustment at any time. Not not at a we're doing this based on the confusion right now, but because be also because you in a normal policy term. [0:41:19, 0:41:21]: You can add vehicles, they're not gonna charge you additional premium. [0:41:22, 0:41:23]: It's called non auditable. [0:41:24, 0:41:33]: So they're not going to charge additional premium for if you buy five vehicles during the policy term, you're not getting charged for that. So they're also not going to give money back for it because they're just going to say, here's what we said. [0:41:34, 0:41:48]: Here's what we've got. And as you add them in, and we check, we check it at the end of the year. So we can make sure that we for the next renewal, we're ch we're charging for those. But the way we've structured the insurance, they don't give money back. You know, if you sell a bunch of vehicles in [0:41:48, 0:41:49]: December. [0:41:50, 0:41:54]: There's not a credit on that. We're doing a credit right now because there is. [0:41:55, 0:42:00]: um uh ambiguity and confusion over the actual count. Um [0:42:00, 0:42:04]: For similarly, if there is under vehicles, they're not charging you for this current policy term. [0:42:05, 0:42:12]: for the thirty vehicles that weren't on there. They're not gonna come and get money for that because they're not auditing it for that. Um [0:42:13, 0:42:14]: But what? [0:42:15, 0:42:24]: As your broker, I need is approval to renew your insurance so that it can move forward. And we will then move forward trying to figure out what is the right number of vehicles. [0:42:25, 0:42:28]: So sir. Ms. Holliday. [0:42:30, 0:42:32]: eight hundred thirty one thousand eight sixty one [0:42:38, 0:42:42]: Th this is this is the these are annualized numbers. [0:42:43, 0:42:49]: That is over twelve months. That is what your annual renewal is because it was also a question of [0:42:49, 0:42:53]: The assumption was the city would want to do this so that you can align it with your fiscal. [0:42:53, 0:43:00]: But the way that travelers does as opposed to doing a short-term policy, they do what's called a cancel rewrite. [0:43:00, 0:43:09]: So that and it's in part because then we're gonna s be staying with travelers because they are making the accommodation for us. So they will do a cancel rewrite. It's a it's it sounds [0:43:10, 0:43:15]: Weirder than it is. But effectively we are going to restart the un the renewal process. [0:43:16, 0:43:17]: In [0:43:17, 0:43:21]: August that we began this past uh November. We're gonna restart it. [0:43:22, 0:43:29]: and put together a new renewal to put in front of you this uh for this coming budget cycle. Ho and hopefully be able to present that in November. [0:43:30, 0:43:50]: For a January renewal. January through December. And from now on, it will be January through December. We already have some of your carriers have agreed to do a short rate. So again, these are annualized numbers because we want to show you what the annualized number looks like, as opposed to just saying, hey, here's your short term. Because then it's harder to show apples to apples. What did the actual rate change do? [0:43:49, 0:43:50]: Yeah. [0:43:51, 0:44:00]: So to further clarify, the 831 number is what you may or may not credit or increase based on the inventory offer. [0:44:00, 0:44:00]: Correct. [0:44:02, 0:44:03]: Okay. [0:44:04, 0:44:24]: I mean it's really there's really uh understand mayor, there's really no other choice. I mean we got I mean we we wanna have insurance pass the nineteenth we gotta pass this uh uh and then certainly look at uh bringing those numbers back. As you said, it's a cancel rewrite. So basically on twelve thirty one it'll be canceled and rewritten basically under the same [0:44:24, 0:44:37]: terms to match up with what we had. This budget cycle is not going to occur eight hundred thirty one thousand. Right. It will occur seven months prorated at that rate, correct. And then we will restart it and then we will have everything straight moving forward. [0:44:38, 0:44:53]: So uh basically based on that, uh you ready to make the motion? Well yeah, I just wanna make sure that your your motion is clear. And I wanna make sure that you got everything okay. And we we're looking at still the th uh the twenty fifth or the fourteenth of July? [0:44:53, 0:45:03]: That is a question for the city. Can you still say the twenty fifth? I think we can do it. Yeah, because we're almost finished. Okay. Okay. All right. So be it. So I think we're good with the motion then. All right. All in favor of motion, please indicate. [0:45:04, 0:45:09]: Nam's decision. I mean, I'm sorry. Um I'll oppose? You're opposed. [0:45:11, 0:45:15]: You approve. Okay. Four. Four zero. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you all. Uh huh. [0:45:16, 0:45:18]: All right. On that note, uh [0:45:19, 0:45:25]: Council, we need to need to go to an executive session, personal legal, real estate. So move. Is there a second? [0:45:25, 0:45:27]: I say okay. Okay. I'll find present okay. [0:45:29, 0:45:35]: Okay. Shortly. Soon. [0:45:36, 0:45:37]: Alrighty. [0:45:49, 0:45:51]: I didn't think about the pin too. [0:46:24, 0:46:27]: Hi, Council, I need a motion to end our exact session, please. [0:46:27, 0:46:29]: Slow move. Is there a second? [0:46:30, 0:46:30]: Okay. [0:46:30, 0:46:33]: I'm Mr. Berry Secondette. Matt, I forgot to ask. Are we back live? [0:46:35, 0:46:36]: Rup. [0:46:38, 0:46:41]: Okay, did that d that did the live feed catch that motion? [0:46:58, 0:47:00]: I should have asked you earlier before I said that. [0:47:03, 0:47:12]: We're up now. Okay. Uh once again, we'll do this again. Council need a motion to end exactly session, please. So move. Okay. All right. All in favor, please indicate. [0:47:13, 0:47:15]: I need a motion now to reconvene our special call meeting. [0:47:16, 0:47:17]: So move. Okay. [0:47:18, 0:47:26]: Second. Oh, Mr. Berry, second that on favor, please indicate. And from our executive session, we have a couple of different motions to make at this time frame. [0:47:33, 0:47:35]: Well hold a second, hold on, say it again. [0:47:36, 0:47:37]: Thank you. [0:47:38, 0:47:45]: Megan McCulloch with the city attorney's office. The first motion was to re um vote on a potential candidate for city manager. [0:47:46, 0:47:55]: Just it'd be the Soul finalist. So soul finalist is what it's called. Soul finalists. Ah, the soul finalist for city manager, thank you. Okay. [0:47:56, 0:47:57]: Iman Emmanuel? [0:47:58, 0:48:10]: I want to uh some I want to uh make the announcement or the sole finalist for the s Stockbridge City Council meeting is Emmanuel [0:48:10, 0:48:12]: Oderin. [0:48:13, 0:48:20]: Okay. He again the sole finalist for city manager for the city of Stockbridge is Emmanuel Amanadaris. [0:48:20, 0:48:22]: I second. Okay, all fair please indicate. [0:48:24, 0:48:25]: Nam's decision. [0:48:26, 0:48:31]: Okay, I'm sorry, three zero one. All right. And the next motion please. [0:48:31, 0:48:39]: And the second motion was to uh vote to terminate uh the contract for Harold Young. Okay. For breach of contract. [0:48:40, 0:48:48]: So moved. Breach of contract you said. Yes. Okay. So moved? Is there s you so moved that sir? Yes. Is there a second? Second. Okay, all in favor, please indicate. [0:48:50, 0:49:02]: Oh okay. So now it's decision. Thank you very much. Uh now any motion to end our our special call meeting. So move. Is there a second? Second. Mr. Berry's second, all fair please indicate. Good night and God bless you.

--- title: Community Zoning Information Meeting date: 2025-06-11 source: 2025-06-11_Community_Zoning_Information_Meeting.wav --- [0:03:28, 0:03:35]: Good evening everyone. This is the CZIM meeting, Community Zoning and Information Meeting. [0:03:35, 0:03:36]: Oh, this is not [0:03:38, 0:03:39]: Just a moment, please. [0:04:37, 0:04:45]: All right. Um this is the community zoning and information meeting, CZIM, for June 11th. [0:04:45, 0:04:47]: twenty twenty five. [0:04:47, 0:05:01]: And purpose of the meeting is to discuss uh upcoming zoning cases that we have. We'll be later discussed by the planning commission and the city council meeting for City of Stockbridge. And tonight um [0:05:01, 0:05:11]: uh the purpose actually is to give the citizens a chance to learn about upcoming zoning cases. Tonight we have only one zoning case to discuss. Uh [0:05:17, 0:05:28]: And first though, I'm gonna give a brief overview of the zoning process for those of you who might not be familiar with zoning with the zoning process at City of Startbridge. [0:05:29, 0:05:30]: So [0:05:30, 0:05:31]: How does all of this start? [0:05:32, 0:05:44]: Initial actions by the property owner developer. So a developer or property owner might purchase a property and enter into a contract with the owner to purchase the property pending zoning approval by City Stockbridge. [0:05:45, 0:05:46]: Developer prepares the site plan. [0:05:47, 0:05:49]: For proposed development uh project. [0:05:49, 0:05:52]: Contacts the planning and zoning staff to request [0:05:53, 0:05:54]: A pre application meeting. [0:05:54, 0:05:57]: purpose of that meaning is to discuss and evaluate [0:05:58, 0:06:01]: In in the very beginning it's an informal discussion, developers proposal. [0:06:02, 0:06:04]: And ah then ah then the [0:06:04, 0:06:07]: Developer submits applications uh to the city. [0:06:08, 0:06:08]: Um [0:06:08, 0:06:19]: And those applications may include the request and the itself, a survey of the property, proposed site plan, various legal stu uh legal debo documents, letter of intent. [0:06:19, 0:06:21]: And a water sewer availability letter. [0:06:22, 0:06:23]: Um [0:06:23, 0:06:28]: And sometimes the applicant hires an agent like a law firm to handle the process. [0:06:29, 0:06:35]: the application process. We have several different types of zoning applications that we receive throughout the year. [0:06:35, 0:06:37]: An annexation application. [0:06:37, 0:06:42]: Uh is for those properties that are currently located outside of the Stockbridge city limits. [0:06:43, 0:06:48]: uh in unincorporated Henry County. If it's approved, it'll be brought into the city. [0:06:48, 0:06:51]: Comprehensive plan amendment changes the city's [0:06:51, 0:06:53]: comprehensive plan to um [0:06:54, 0:06:56]: Uh with a map change. [0:06:56, 0:06:58]: Uh future land use map. [0:06:58, 0:07:00]: um to allow the proposed type of use. [0:07:00, 0:07:06]: And allows the requested zoning and the proposed residential density if it's a residential project. [0:07:08, 0:07:11]: The rezoning application changes the base zoning of the property. [0:07:12, 0:07:13]: Um [0:07:13, 0:07:16]: That means the current uses if it's approved will no longer be allowed. [0:07:17, 0:07:20]: There might also be an overlay district. Um [0:07:20, 0:07:21]: that would not change. [0:07:21, 0:07:25]: It could possibly be a variance application. Those are for minor [0:07:25, 0:07:30]: deviations for s for example for setbacks. Um [0:07:30, 0:07:39]: And then we might get a special use permit application that's for special uses like churches, liquor stores, personal care homes or gas stations. [0:07:40, 0:07:43]: And then finally a zoning modification application. [0:07:43, 0:07:53]: uh as for when a developer wants to make a change to a previously approved rezoning that the council made uh some time ago. [0:07:56, 0:08:02]: Okay. Now community development department upon receiving the application, like I said, they conduct the [0:08:02, 0:08:04]: We conduct pre application meaning [0:08:04, 0:08:06]: Process the applications. [0:08:06, 0:08:09]: Uh then we put a ad in the newspaper, legal ads. [0:08:10, 0:08:13]: List the exoning cases on the agendas for upcoming public meetings. [0:08:14, 0:08:18]: А we prepare a letter for applicants to mail out to surrounding property owners. [0:08:19, 0:08:21]: who live within five hundred feet of the property. [0:08:21, 0:08:24]: Um we send uh for annexation uh [0:08:25, 0:08:25]: Cases [0:08:26, 0:08:29]: Copies the applications to Henry County officials for their review. [0:08:29, 0:08:32]: And we post zoning signs on the property. [0:08:33, 0:08:34]: Then they start the [0:08:35, 0:08:39]: Planning and zoning staff prepares a staff report to assess the merits of each zoning case. [0:08:40, 0:08:42]: compliance with the comprehensive plan. [0:08:42, 0:08:44]: And the unified development code. [0:08:45, 0:08:49]: and makes recommendations. We then prepare PowerPoint presentation. [0:08:49, 0:08:54]: that we'll use in um presenting cases at upcoming public meetings. [0:08:55, 0:09:00]: And these are the public meetings. Tonight we have the C Z IM meeting, informal meeting to [0:09:00, 0:09:06]: Um citizens may have a chance to talk informally with the developers to learn all about the cases. [0:09:06, 0:09:10]: Then the planning commission meeting uh with a we have a board [0:09:10, 0:09:13]: uh board members um sit up at the front [0:09:14, 0:09:33]: here in the council chamber and they hold a public hearing and they take votes which become recommendations to city council. Then finally the city council meeting uh form follows a similar f similar format as a planning commission meeting and their decisions become final and they become law. So that's the end of the process. [0:09:34, 0:09:36]: Um after uh [0:09:36, 0:09:40]: zoning cases are approved, the developer may then submit [0:09:40, 0:09:46]: to the permitting staff um land development l land disturbance permit application. [0:09:46, 0:09:47]: To [0:09:47, 0:09:49]: Give permission to clear the land. [0:09:49, 0:09:56]: put in streets and utility lines and then also a building permit application and staff reviews them. [0:09:56, 0:10:02]: All right, so tonight we have only one zoning case uh to discuss. Um [0:10:02, 0:10:07]: I'm gonna give a brief overview of the case, then we'll have a developer the applicant is here. [0:10:08, 0:10:14]: will make uh his own presentation and then citizens may ask any questions or have comments. [0:10:15, 0:10:23]: Okay, the case that we're gonna discuss tonight is zoning modification case number ZM twenty twenty five oh one. [0:10:24, 0:10:36]: This is for property located at the southwest corner of Highway 42 North and Tunis Road. It is parcel number 070-010-22001. [0:10:36, 0:10:56]: Proposed development is a single family residential subdivision with fifty-nine detached homes. Uh the property was previously approved some years ago for development which didn't did not get built, and now the current developer wants to make a change to the previously approved design at the [0:10:56, 0:11:02]: And that's what's called a modification and that's why he needed to submit zoning modification case. [0:11:03, 0:11:17]: uh application. Here is the aerial photo of the property. We have Highway 42 north, going north to south here. Tunis Road is the northern boundary of the property. Um it's a rather odd shaped parcel. [0:11:18, 0:11:21]: Uh then we have it here's another area of photo. [0:11:21, 0:11:22]: It shows [0:11:25, 0:11:28]: Excuse me, the creek and floodplain going right through the center. [0:11:31, 0:11:32]: Mm-hmm. [0:11:36, 0:11:40]: The property owner is Highway Henry Highway forty two L C [0:11:40, 0:11:42]: The applicant is shaker ready. [0:11:43, 0:11:46]: Um the property has twenty seven point seven two. [0:11:47, 0:11:48]: Approximate acres. [0:11:48, 0:11:50]: It's right now vacant. [0:11:50, 0:11:52]: Has the creek and floodplain areas? [0:11:52, 0:11:55]: Property zone SR which is suburban residential. [0:11:56, 0:11:58]: And PMU Parkway Mixed Use Overlay District. [0:11:59, 0:12:02]: The future land use designation is low density mixed use. [0:12:04, 0:12:07]: Um here is a map of the future land use of the property. [0:12:08, 0:12:08]: Um [0:12:09, 0:12:11]: It is a low density. [0:12:11, 0:12:12]: Mixed use. [0:12:14, 0:12:15]: Zoning map. [0:12:15, 0:12:18]: Uh the yellow area is suburban residential. [0:12:20, 0:12:26]: And as an overlay district, the lavender areas are in the overlay district includ including the subject property. [0:12:26, 0:12:28]: So as I mentioned this was um [0:12:29, 0:12:30]: A previous rezoning. [0:12:31, 0:12:35]: Oh, that was approved for Killern Properties and Sharrett Development Group. [0:12:35, 0:12:37]: And it had certain um [0:12:37, 0:12:39]: Zoning conditions as a part of that rezoning. [0:12:40, 0:12:42]: Uh but that development was not approved. [0:12:42, 0:12:53]: So the developer is um seeking some modifications to those zoning conditions um that were part of a development agreement between the developer and city of Stockbridge. [0:12:54, 0:12:56]: Um these are the [0:12:57, 0:13:00]: zoning conditions that were included in that development agreement. [0:13:01, 0:13:06]: Number one, a third of the single family homes shall be a minimum of twenty four hundred square feet rather than twenty five. [0:13:06, 0:13:09]: hundred square feet. Actually these are the [0:13:09, 0:13:11]: proposed changes that the [0:13:11, 0:13:13]: d the applicant would like to make. [0:13:14, 0:13:19]: Front number two, front of the home shall be mixture fifty percent brick or stone and hardy plank. [0:13:19, 0:13:24]: Or cementitious fiber siding with brick or stone water table on the two sides of the homes. [0:13:25, 0:13:29]: Uh three hardwood street trees shall only be required along Highway thirty. [0:13:29, 0:13:31]: Uh twenty three, forty two. [0:13:31, 0:13:37]: And number four, twelve landscape uh landscape strip between the curb and four foot sidewalk shall be a minimum. [0:13:37, 0:13:40]: twenty four inches along up all public streets. [0:13:40, 0:13:45]: And five, uh home plan approvals shall be issued by the community development director. [0:13:45, 0:13:47]: prior to issuance of a final plat. [0:13:50, 0:13:54]: Here's a proposed site plan. Uh we do have an enlargement of course now. [0:13:54, 0:13:59]: Interesting to note as be because of the creek going through the center of the property. [0:13:59, 0:14:01]: Proposed development would actually [0:14:01, 0:14:12]: It consists of two parts. Let's see you have enlargement, little bit of enlargement. Uh you see the creek goes through the center. So there's a northern and southern uh portion. [0:14:12, 0:14:25]: um of development ends in the a cul-de-sac. The applicant here can provide more details on this. So it is a proposed fifty-nine single family detached homes. Um let's see [0:14:27, 0:14:31]: The setbacks required fifty feet in the front, forty in the rear, ten on the sides. [0:14:32, 0:14:36]: There would be water quality ponds in in the development, an amenity lot. [0:14:37, 0:14:38]: And um [0:14:38, 0:14:44]: No other amentees shown at the present time. So the applicant is here now and would like to make a presentation. [0:15:01, 0:15:05]: Yeah, um I'll pull it on this side. [0:15:12, 0:15:13]: Yeah, that's that top one. [0:15:14, 0:15:15]: Okay. [0:15:18, 0:15:35]: Uh let me uh actually have to first uh this um then I stop this one. [0:15:52, 0:16:12]: All right, my name is Brian Marshburn. On behalf of Shaker Ready, uh just want to give a quick overview of what we're seeking to do. Uh as you can see, this is a aerial from about 2006 to 2008. The project had um previously been [0:16:12, 0:16:20]: Mostly developed. It had been cleared, graded. It has active water and sewer in the community. [0:16:20, 0:16:21]: Um [0:16:21, 0:16:41]: The trees have since grown back over the past twenty-some years. Uh on the north side of the property it's uh industrial use north and south of the subject property. Uh but this uh property was zoned industrial and it uh now is zoned R three. [0:16:41, 0:16:44]: Or uh S R through conversion. [0:16:47, 0:16:55]: Uh development agreement was executed uh with the city in two thousand four. [0:16:56, 0:17:08]: A development agreement was executed with the city in 2004. Properties were rezoned from M1 Light Industrial to R three to permit uh single family development on this parcel. [0:17:08, 0:17:12]: Uh original site development occurred oh six to oh eight. [0:17:13, 0:17:15]: Then we had the global financial crisis. [0:17:15, 0:17:17]: We all know what happened then. [0:17:17, 0:17:20]: Between two thousand seven and two thousand nine. [0:17:20, 0:17:31]: Uh the site foreclosed in 2008 and the applicant Henry Highway Henry forty two LLC purchased the property in August 2010 and has since held the property. [0:17:32, 0:17:49]: Uh current site plan is basically unchanged from the previous site plan. Uh we have reduced the number of lots down to fifty nine. Uh the prior site plan uh was not uh did not accommodate enough uh room to [0:17:50, 0:17:55]: fit a a typical uh conventional size home onto the property. Um [0:17:56, 0:18:13]: They're um the minimum lot size was reduced from twelve to twelve thousand square feet to ten thousand five hundred square feet. Uh there are only several lots in this community that meet that requirement. Uh most of these lots exceed twelve thousand square feet. [0:18:17, 0:18:37]: Uh our request is uh pretty simple. We're only modifying the existing development agreement that was put in place in 2004. And our requests are seven. Um uh we want to uh reduce by one hundred square feet the largest. [0:18:37, 0:18:42]: ranch style home in the community uh from twenty five hundred to twenty four hundred square feet. [0:18:43, 0:18:57]: Uh that's number one. Number two is we would like to build three side hardy plank, one side the fronts, uh up to fifty percent uh brick, stone, uh [0:18:59, 0:19:03]: uh fiber sodding um i.e. hardy plank. [0:19:04, 0:19:05]: uh along the front. [0:19:06, 0:19:26]: There would be a uh water table on both sides of the house. Uh that would be uh brick, stone, or stucco. Uh a water table around the bottom edges of the home. Uh we would uh like to remove the hardwood tree requirement uh along the streets and only install them along [0:19:26, 0:19:27]: Highway forty two twenty three. [0:19:30, 0:19:42]: Additionally, each home plan would be approved by uh the city. Um that was already uh in the previous development agreement. [0:19:48, 0:19:58]: The landscaping strip in the previous development agreement between the curb and the sidewalk is four feet. We're requesting that to be two feet. [0:19:59, 0:20:19]: Uh there is a um some ambiguity uh in uh number twenty of the existing development agreement, which uh doesn't really clarify that there should only be one pool and one amenities package uh through conversation with uh staff. Uh [0:20:19, 0:20:32]: We all agree that uh 59 lot communities should only have one pool, one amenities package. Therefore, it would be a lower cost to the homeowners uh through the association dues. Um [0:20:33, 0:20:37]: In addition, uh we would like to install a mailbox bank. Uh [0:20:38, 0:20:40]: I think that uh [0:20:40, 0:20:41]: The new standard [0:20:41, 0:20:45]: Uh back in two thousand four everyone had their own mailbox. [0:20:46, 0:20:51]: And the remainder of the development agreement standards from the prior development agreement will remain. [0:20:51, 0:20:53]: Uh but these are our only requests. [0:20:55, 0:21:15]: Uh the renderings. Uh this community will be developed very similar to Winding Creek subdivision. It's a fairly new subdivision along Campground Road. It sold very well. Uh home prices somewhere between$350 and$450. Um with a uh our community will actually probably have a a few more uh [0:21:15, 0:21:18]: Units that will have uh ranch style homes. [0:21:20, 0:21:30]: Uh it's uh just a quick view of uh what the the pool and the clubhouse looks like with the playground in the background and winding creek and the street view. [0:21:31, 0:21:33]: And I'm happy to entertain any questions. [0:21:42, 0:21:42]: How are you doing? [0:21:43, 0:21:44]: Okay. [0:21:45, 0:21:46]: Well thank you. [0:21:56, 0:21:59]: I noticed on the site plan. Could you show that again? [0:21:59, 0:22:19]: There's another cul-de-sac. I guess it's not part of your property, but what is there something back there? Yes, this is a uh was previously developed in 2004. Uh there are three commercial lots that go across the frontage of highway forty-two. Okay. Uh one to the south, one in the middle, which is quite large, and one to the north. [0:22:19, 0:22:26]: North, uh I believe they're zone C two. So they're undeveloped. They're undeveloped. There's a quite a substantial uh [0:22:28, 0:22:38]: Retention wall, the detention wall that goes around the edge of the property there. What is that that goes across? It's uh about a two million dollar wall. A wall. A wall that holds up the property. [0:22:39, 0:22:59]: A retaining wall. So it must be significant drop. Very significant. So really yeah, this is level. This whole area is level. And let me go back to the very So the rear part is unbuildable. See how this this kind of part is unbuildable. So that's the the wetlands and the and the creek, Wolf Creek. [0:22:59, 0:23:11]: So there's significant setbacks off of it and they go all the way around the property on the backside here. But this is basically how it will look again. So there's really no change in the the footprint of what was previously approved. [0:23:12, 0:23:25]: And the cul de sac why why was that put in? That was just penciled in for uh future development of office buildings there. So imagine a cluster of uh attached office condo buildings there. [0:23:25, 0:23:28]: Uh, as far as the conditions, could you um [0:23:29, 0:23:30]: Go back to them. [0:23:30, 0:23:36]: Now that is a list of m how how you want the conditions to read. [0:23:36, 0:23:39]: Well, or is that how they read that right now? [0:23:40, 0:23:50]: I only highlighted the requested changes. So the items that are requested I highlighted each have the their numerical number within the development agreement. [0:23:50, 0:23:56]: Could you enlarge could you I don't know if you can enlarge that. Okay, so [0:23:56, 0:23:59]: Is this what the development agreement says right now? [0:24:00, 0:24:12]: Essentially we just altered the the the requested changes. So this is a list of requested changes. Your l your list. My list. Okay. But the the old development agreement is still in place. [0:24:13, 0:24:33]: So we really need to see kind of what ex the existing and then your proposed changes. Correct. So that way when a staff report is prepared it can it can be evaluated. So on number one evaluate. Uh we're reducing twenty five hundred square feet down one hundred square feet for a a real style home. Um [0:24:33, 0:24:53]: Number two, um they had three sides brick. We're requesting that it be uh three sides hardy plank, fifty percent brick, stone, or hardy plank or a mixture of thereof or or stucco front. So by right now it says three sides brick is required? It does. So uh could you possibly send us uh [0:24:52, 0:25:01]: I I don't know, a letter or something? It's already in the application. The uh the original development agreement. Right. You have a copy of that. [0:25:02, 0:25:09]: Okay, so so there's that that list and the development agreement and then this is your list of propo of of how [0:25:09, 0:25:14]: This is all I wanna alter, d uh just these you know, eight things basically. [0:25:15, 0:25:25]: Um I guess maybe if it might be a little bit clearer if you could the first one is is somewhat clear. Um [0:25:26, 0:25:28]: That you want to change it from [0:25:29, 0:25:32]: twenty five hundred to two twenty four hundred. [0:25:33, 0:25:36]: Yeah. [0:25:36, 0:25:39]: So a third of the single story homes. [0:25:40, 0:25:59]: Would be in the original agreement were to be um 2,500 square feet minimum. We wanted to be a 2400 square feet. Right, right. Just because uh 2400 square feet is forty by sixty and each one of our lots are roughly about fifty feet wide. So with the setbacks, it won't fit. [0:26:00, 0:26:20]: Okay. So I I guess it might be a little bit clearer, you know, for the Planning Commission City Council. But they will fit on the large still have the the list from development agreement, but you know, I think it would be okay clear. I'm happy to prepare a comparison for you. Well if maybe you just reword this. Okay. See this is applicants. [0:26:20, 0:26:35]: proposal this is applicant's proposal to change number one to change from minimum twenty five hundred to twenty four hundred okay and number two to change from you said three sides brick to whatever you know so [0:26:35, 0:26:42]: From this to that. Okay. If you could you know where you were at that point. Uh understood. [0:26:42, 0:26:51]: Right. Okay. Yes, ma'am. Those are just my c I don't know if Gordon, it'll be Linton will be preparing the staff report, maybe. I don't know if he has any comments or questions. [0:26:57, 0:27:15]: Um I don't at this time. We do have the um currently I'm looking through we're looking through the uh development agreement. Um so we're pretty much comparing what the applicant wants versus um versus what they're changing. So that's what we're looking at um at this time. [0:27:21, 0:27:25]: Okay. Still Amy. Do you have anything else have anything else to say? [0:27:25, 0:27:27]: Thank you. All right, thank you. Thank you all. [0:27:30, 0:27:36]: Yes. Going to the back to my presentation. Now to the citizens. [0:27:36, 0:27:40]: Just yeah and then [0:27:50, 0:27:51]: Right here. [0:27:52, 0:27:58]: All right, are there any citizens who have any questions or comments would like to speak? Anyone? [0:27:59, 0:28:10]: And anyone listening um uh online from home, you may contact community development office um if you would like to have any questions or or comments. [0:28:13, 0:28:14]: Um [0:28:14, 0:28:27]: Upcoming public meetings. So we have a planning commission meeting on Thursday, June twenty sixth, um, beginning at six thirty, city council meeting Monday, July fourteenth, beginning at six o'clock. [0:28:28, 0:28:31]: And that's where this case will be discussed at those two meetings. [0:28:32, 0:28:40]: And uh the Planning Commission makes a recommendation and then the city council has a final vote on the case. [0:28:40, 0:28:53]: Uh the next CCIM meeting for anyone who's interested will be on Wednesday, July 9th, beginning at 6 o'clock PM, and that will be for any future uh zoning applications that we may receive. [0:28:56, 0:29:00]: Uh other business? Does anyone have any other business to discuss tonight? [0:29:08, 0:29:28]: Yes, hello. My name is Jarvis, uh intern here at the community development department. Um, other business, we have a community engagement survey. So here at the Stybridge Community Development Department, we're trying to really um bridge this gap between the citizens and our department. And so if you would, you know, fill out this QR code, um, we would really appreciate you taking the time to, you know, give a [0:29:28, 0:29:37]: A few feedback just about, you know, how we can better engage with our citizens and also just provide and contact information to get future updates from our department. Thank you. [0:29:41, 0:29:47]: Okay, that concludes tonight's C C I M meeting. Thank everyone for coming and listening. We're adjourned.

--- title: Ethics Committee Meeting date: 2025-06-11 source: 2025-06-11_Ethics_Committee_Meeting.wav --- [0:04:17, 0:04:18]: All right. [0:04:19, 0:04:25]: We will move to approve our agenda. Has everyone had an opportunity? I hear myself better. Can you guys hear me? Okay. [0:04:26, 0:04:32]: Um, has everyone had an opportunity to review the agenda from our last meeting on May twenty eighth? [0:04:33, 0:04:35]: I'm sorry, we're approving this agenda. [0:04:36, 0:04:38]: Has everyone had opportunity to look at it? [0:04:38, 0:04:39]: Yes. [0:04:39, 0:04:41]: Okay, can I get a motion to approve? [0:04:41, 0:04:42]: So motion. [0:04:43, 0:04:44]: Second. [0:04:44, 0:04:52]: It has been moved and seconded that this uh agenda for today be approved. Any nays on that? [0:04:53, 0:04:54]: No, no. [0:04:55, 0:04:56]: So carries. [0:04:59, 0:05:06]: We also have to approve our meeting minutes from May 28th, um, 2025. [0:05:07, 0:05:10]: Has everyone had opportunity to review those minutes? [0:05:11, 0:05:13]: Can I remember? Okay. [0:05:22, 0:05:25]: Okay. Okay. You [0:05:27, 0:05:31]: Enough time? Yeah. Okay. Can I get a motion? [0:05:32, 0:05:36]: Make a motion to uh approve the minutes of the last meeting on May twenty eighth. [0:05:37, 0:05:41]: Second. Second. Turn your mic on, Miss Miss. [0:05:42, 0:05:42]: Charme. [0:05:43, 0:05:45]: Just push the button. [0:05:46, 0:05:52]: Do it again. Yes. I make a motion to um approve the May twenty eighth meeting minutes. [0:05:53, 0:05:55]: Can I get a second? Second. [0:05:56, 0:06:02]: Okay, it has been moved and seconded to approve the meeting minutes from May twenty eighth, twenty twenty five at six thirty PM. [0:06:03, 0:06:04]: Any [0:06:04, 0:06:05]: Opposed. [0:06:06, 0:06:11]: Hearing none, the motion will carry. [0:06:13, 0:06:20]: Okay, we move to old business. We have had uh several ethics complaints in the month of May. [0:06:23, 0:06:25]: We've had the [0:06:25, 0:06:30]: Uh zero five zero two two two zero two five dash oh one. [0:06:30, 0:06:38]: Which is Phaedra Thomas against Council Member Elton Alexander. Do we have any of those parties present today? [0:06:39, 0:06:41]: Ma'am, you are [0:06:41, 0:06:42]: Fidja [0:06:44, 0:06:44]: Okay. [0:06:46, 0:06:55]: We also have complaint zero five zero nine two zero two five-zero one. It's a battle law against. [0:06:55, 0:06:59]: Council member Yolanda Barber, do we have anybody present today? [0:07:00, 0:07:01]: Ma'am, you are? [0:07:03, 0:07:04]: Okay. [0:07:06, 0:07:12]: We also have zero five one six two zero two five dash zero one. [0:07:12, 0:07:17]: This is Councilmember Yolander Barber against City Attorney Quentin Washington. [0:07:18, 0:07:21]: I know Council uh woman barber is here. Do we have uh [0:07:22, 0:07:23]: Washington. [0:07:25, 0:07:26]: Yeah. [0:07:26, 0:07:27]: Okay, thank you. [0:07:29, 0:07:33]: Zero five one six two zero two five dash zero. [0:07:35, 0:07:36]: Two [0:07:36, 0:07:42]: Uh we have Councilmember Barber against Mayor Anthony Ford. I see you. [0:07:46, 0:07:47]: Zero five. [0:07:48, 0:07:51]: One six two zero two five dash O three. [0:07:51, 0:07:56]: is Councilwoman Barber against Councilwoman Lakeisha Gantt. [0:07:57, 0:07:59]: Ms. Barber's present. Ms. Gantt. [0:08:00, 0:08:00]: Snap. [0:08:02, 0:08:13]: Zero five one six two zero two five dash oh four. Miss Barber against Councilman Cal Berry Senior. Do we have Cal Berry Senior present? [0:08:15, 0:08:19]: very Orphean or present, but I will be presenting on that behalf same time. [0:08:25, 0:08:30]: Zero five one six two zero two five dash oh five we have council member [0:08:31, 0:08:34]: Councilwoman Barber against Council [0:08:35, 0:08:38]: Member Alexander. See you. [0:08:43, 0:08:49]: And that is the last complaint filed under that particular [0:08:50, 0:08:51]: Group of complaints. [0:08:52, 0:09:01]: Moving on, we have zero five two zero two zero two five dash oh one, which is Councilmember Barber against City Attorney Washington. [0:09:01, 0:09:11]: without having to look up again, I know that these are the same person, so we'll move forward. Um zero five two zero two zero two five zero two. [0:09:12, 0:09:16]: Barber against uh Mayor Anthony Ford. [0:09:17, 0:09:26]: Zero five two zero two zero two five dash oh three is council member barber against um councilwoman Lakeisha Gantt. [0:09:27, 0:09:31]: Zero five two zero two zero two five dash O four. [0:09:32, 0:09:36]: Is Miss Barber against Mr Elton Alexander? [0:09:37, 0:09:50]: And we have our last complaint in this group of complaints at zero five two zero two zero two five dash zero five. Ms. Barber against Mr. Calberry Senior. [0:09:52, 0:09:58]: Our last complaint is zero five two one two zero two five dash zero one. [0:09:59, 0:10:05]: And this is council member uh barber against mayor Anthony Ford. [0:10:07, 0:10:12]: So given that we have some parties present here today, this is not a hearing. [0:10:13, 0:10:33]: But we did review the complaints, we reviewed all supplemental documentation that was provided to us. And we do have some questions on some things, not all complaints. So we will as a board ask you these questions to answers that we need. [0:10:33, 0:10:36]: to um continue our review and investigation. [0:10:36, 0:10:41]: And then we will move um to our to our closing session to continue our review. [0:10:44, 0:10:48]: So our first uh question [0:10:50, 0:10:51]: is for [0:10:52, 0:10:56]: The complaint filed by Ms. Battle. [0:10:57, 0:11:01]: against uh Miss Barber. So can you please come forward? [0:11:20, 0:11:21]: I Miss Battle? Yes. [0:11:22, 0:11:37]: Okay, so in your complaint, um you did file under our ethice code. Thank you for guidance for that review. However, we do have a question for you in regards to that. [0:11:38, 0:11:40]: You refer to [0:11:40, 0:11:41]: A meeting [0:11:42, 0:11:45]: in the planning and zoning commission or commit committee, correct? [0:11:47, 0:11:48]: And [0:11:48, 0:11:53]: in that meeting are you aware of whether there are any um [0:11:56, 0:12:03]: leaders or uh uh I know we know that there isn't at this moment a uh city manager. [0:12:04, 0:12:12]: But were there any other um persons that would be a lead in administration that were at this meeting? [0:12:13, 0:12:33]: So the planning staff was there. Um Ryan Anderson, um, who is the planning director um was present. I believe um Linda Logan was also present um on the planning staff. Um the zoning attorney for the city. Um [0:12:33, 0:12:38]: Valerie Ross was also present at the meeting. Um [0:12:41, 0:12:47]: I believe Miss Holliday, um Vanessa Holliday was present at the meeting as well. [0:12:53, 0:12:55]: Yes, ma'am, sorry about that. [0:12:55, 0:12:59]: Though typically you're sitting over there on the other side, but I apologize. [0:13:10, 0:13:11]: Okay. [0:13:17, 0:13:20]: Your claim is that basically under [0:13:23, 0:13:25]: Let me find it really quickly. [0:13:37, 0:13:38]: I'm seeing it. [0:13:45, 0:13:46]: Oh here we go. [0:13:55, 0:13:56]: Give me a second, I'm sorry. [0:14:06, 0:14:11]: Do you have her complaint before you have a complaint session? Yes. [0:14:41, 0:14:42]: question. What are the dad? [0:14:46, 0:14:50]: Okay, board members, do you remember that what else we were talking about? [0:14:52, 0:14:53]: Mm-hmm. [0:14:55, 0:14:57]: Mm. [0:14:58, 0:14:59]: Mm mm. [0:15:02, 0:15:05]: What is she looking for? The the code she cited. [0:15:06, 0:15:06]: Oh. [0:15:07, 0:15:09]: Well the first part of the code. [0:15:10, 0:15:12]: Right. D and E we never could figure out what that meant. [0:15:15, 0:15:16]: Yeah. [0:15:18, 0:15:33]: Yeah, but not that. So I wanted to write it down because it said specifically it was speaking to specific council members. Do you want me to read it for you? Okay. I found it. Okay, I found it. [0:15:43, 0:15:46]: I believe in your um [0:15:48, 0:15:58]: complaint you stated that council member barber or your claim is that council member barber unethically influenced um the person the parties present. [0:16:01, 0:16:03]: Is she the only one who was speaking at this meeting? [0:16:05, 0:16:25]: Councilmember Barber, as a member of City Council, has the final determination along with the other city council members with regards to zoning matters. The Planning Commission is an advisory board. She came before the Planning Commission and spoke in opposition not only to my application. [0:16:25, 0:16:45]: But to another application that we are now representing the applicant on for a special land use permit. That is inappropriate. It is undermining the integrity of the process. She is the final one of the final decision makers. It would be no different. [0:16:44, 0:16:59]: than if this board had an advisory committee and all of you all showed up to that meeting and then suddenly made comment as to whether you were approving or disapproving or in support or not in support of the matters that are going to be coming before you. [0:16:59, 0:17:19]: Um it wouldn't have mattered to me if she spoke in favor of me. It is still inappropriate. I've been a zoning attorney for um over twenty years and quite honestly I've never seen that happen um in a proceeding. And again, it undermines the integrity of the proceeding. Um she had ample opportunity during [0:17:19, 0:17:37]: a city council meeting to express whatever problems or issues she had with the application that she either supported it or she didn't support it and that was what she does along with the other council members to determine whether or not an application is approved or denied. But you don't come to a planning commission meeting [0:17:37, 0:17:57]: Where there are other people that you have appointed, one of your appointees is on that board, along with the staff to basically tell them that you are not in support of an application. That is simply inappropriate. And it wouldn't have matter to me if she stood up and said she was in support of me. It's still inappropriate. And as an attorney, I am very much appropriate. [0:17:57, 0:18:00]: About the integrity of the process for everyone. [0:18:07, 0:18:08]: Okay. [0:18:09, 0:18:10]: Thank you. [0:18:10, 0:18:12]: Ms. Barber, can you please respond? [0:18:17, 0:18:19]: So we [0:18:21, 0:18:26]: Recognize that you're at this meeting. There were a lot of claims that were made. We did review [0:18:27, 0:18:41]: Um the board has reviewed that meeting and did see that meeting. Um we understand that you were there on behalf of your constituents, which is what you said at the time. Um we also noted [0:18:41, 0:18:43]: That you um [0:18:43, 0:18:48]: provided some sort or sense of trying to [0:18:48, 0:18:59]: uh collaborate or come to some agreement on how it could be resolved um with both parties in mind. [0:18:59, 0:19:01]: Were you [0:19:04, 0:19:15]: Explain to me why you came to that meeting versus your constituents. I just wanna know your your side of it. If you don't mind, I do have a couple of questions in regards to [0:19:15, 0:19:16]: This process [0:19:16, 0:19:19]: Um, when will a public hearing [0:19:20, 0:19:21]: Beheld. [0:19:21, 0:19:22]: Um to hear. [0:19:23, 0:19:26]: The complaints in full because you just [0:19:26, 0:19:30]: Asking me specific questions, um, I don't get an opportunity. [0:19:31, 0:19:32]: To share. [0:19:32, 0:19:35]: full details in regards to [0:19:35, 0:19:38]: My rebuttal to this complaint. So [0:19:39, 0:19:40]: I wanna be clear. [0:19:41, 0:19:44]: Да ви арна облігати, нордуви хавту. [0:19:45, 0:19:47]: grant a hearing or have a hearing on things. [0:19:48, 0:19:52]: Um we can read and we can actually dismiss via writing. [0:19:53, 0:19:54]: А вони ревью [0:19:55, 0:19:57]: Your complaint, it should be in full. [0:19:57, 0:20:08]: There's some things that I would like to have happen that this board can uh put forth some rules to so you guys can know what we're looking at and how we're gonna move, because I think it's just all over the place. [0:20:08, 0:20:10]: Um but [0:20:10, 0:20:16]: We can at the time of a hearing ask questions to further inform us of what we need to hear. [0:20:17, 0:20:21]: In order to make a decision, not necessarily need to be a full hearing. [0:20:21, 0:20:28]: When we decide to have a full hearing, that means that we've seen some things that we just don't have enough information for, period. [0:20:29, 0:20:31]: There are a lot of questions that we have. [0:20:31, 0:20:33]: in order to have a hearing. [0:20:33, 0:20:38]: But for each particular complaint that we see that we don't feel has been [0:20:39, 0:20:39]: Um [0:20:41, 0:20:49]: Pled sufficiently, there's not enough facts, or there's no point to any re uh code that is within our jurisdiction to review. [0:20:49, 0:20:57]: We don't have to have a hearing for that. We are giving you an opportunity to speak to us so that when we go back in there, we could at least [0:20:58, 0:21:08]: inform ourselves a little bit more, maybe give you a little bit more grace than what was on that complaint. Not just yours particularly. I'm not talking about this one specifically, but just in general. [0:21:09, 0:21:15]: So that's why we're asking now because I really wanted to have some information from Miss Battle that was not in her complaint. [0:21:15, 0:21:18]: Um, I think you were pretty thorough in [0:21:18, 0:21:27]: what you stated. Um and we saw what we needed to see from the actual meeting to kind of inform us of of what we needed to do. [0:21:28, 0:21:32]: So if you have anything that you else you want to s or ask your other question. [0:21:32, 0:21:37]: Абсолютно, сотінь оді етикс коміті. [0:21:37, 0:21:38]: You all [0:21:38, 0:21:39]: Convened your meeting. [0:21:40, 0:21:42]: You did your roll call and immediately. [0:21:42, 0:21:44]: Went into executive session. [0:21:46, 0:21:49]: To discuss the voluminous complaints. [0:21:50, 0:21:54]: So what exactly did you discuss in an executive session? [0:21:54, 0:21:58]: Because these are supposed to be open meetings, open to the public. [0:21:59, 0:22:02]: You going behind closed doors for more than two hours. [0:22:02, 0:22:04]: I don't know what you're discussing. [0:22:04, 0:22:06]: The same with the council. [0:22:06, 0:22:11]: There are only three things that we can go into closed door sessions regarding. [0:22:11, 0:22:18]: Now if you went into closed door session for personnel matters, then it would be personnel under your purview. [0:22:18, 0:22:24]: maybe one of your board members, but you certainly, if you went into executive session to discuss [0:22:24, 0:22:27]: any portions of these complaints [0:22:28, 0:22:28]: I [0:22:29, 0:22:33]: I have an issue with that and I have some great concerns regarding it. [0:22:33, 0:22:34]: Um [0:22:34, 0:22:36]: I just want there to be consistency. [0:22:37, 0:22:39]: Um in how you are [0:22:39, 0:22:41]: Doing these hearings. [0:22:42, 0:22:45]: The last complaint that I made just last year [0:22:46, 0:22:47]: We had a hearing. [0:22:48, 0:22:50]: I got an opportunity to share [0:22:50, 0:22:52]: The details regarding my complaint. [0:22:52, 0:22:55]: And so did the defendant have an opportunity to speak as well. [0:22:56, 0:22:57]: So I am [0:22:57, 0:23:03]: Just asking that you all be consistent with what you're doing and please [0:23:03, 0:23:07]: Um the ethics or the executive session rule. [0:23:08, 0:23:13]: I just want to make sure that I understand how you all are using it. [0:23:13, 0:23:17]: I expected that there would be a public hearing here. I'm sorry. [0:23:19, 0:23:21]: Can you speak into your mic and turn it on, please? [0:23:21, 0:23:35]: I have a point of privilege, please, madam chair. Um Miss Barber, we did not have a hearing, we just had an informational session, but uh I for one have a lot of questions. I still have a lot of questions about this. [0:23:35, 0:23:53]: and uh some of the other cases that we are looking at. And I just would like to clarify that when we went into exec session last time, we really did not have any we had only received these. We had not met in any way and discussed in any way and we can't meet without a you know, if we don't have a [0:23:53, 0:24:05]: Without a quorum, we can't come to some kind of uh like all the ins and outs of what we're reviewing. So just to clarify that last time uh I know I had many questions. [0:24:05, 0:24:08]: And another member had many questions and [0:24:08, 0:24:09]: That [0:24:09, 0:24:11]: And uh we were [0:24:11, 0:24:14]: I I was trying to just make a determination. [0:24:15, 0:24:16]: So just to clarify. [0:24:17, 0:24:22]: іно ви до вон а інформація да ви кінді [0:24:22, 0:24:29]: And I personally did watch the Facebook video, um, although I couldn't get access to it. [0:24:29, 0:24:33]: Um and finally was able to get access to it on the city website. [0:24:33, 0:24:34]: Um [0:24:34, 0:24:41]: And I see that you were speaking for your constituents. You you reiterated that every time you got up and spoke. [0:24:41, 0:24:43]: There were other [0:24:43, 0:24:51]: citizens and you you s clearly said that you were representing citizens that could not be there or were too afraid to be there. [0:24:51, 0:24:54]: Ту стрту they didn't want to speak up like in public. [0:24:55, 0:24:55]: So no. [0:24:56, 0:25:00]: Okay, well that's what I thought I understood. I apologize. No problem. Um if I may. [0:25:01, 0:25:03]: So the only reason. [0:25:04, 0:25:05]: Why even attended [0:25:06, 0:25:07]: The [0:25:07, 0:25:09]: Community informational meeting. [0:25:09, 0:25:10]: That the city hosted. [0:25:11, 0:25:13]: and also the planning commission meeting. [0:25:14, 0:25:16]: Hosted by the Planning Commission. [0:25:16, 0:25:18]: Was because [0:25:18, 0:25:19]: The resident [0:25:20, 0:25:24]: They had not been given proper and adequate notice and [0:25:25, 0:25:28]: If you'd look at the series of emails that I sent to you all. [0:25:29, 0:25:32]: The emails that I originally sent to Battle Law. [0:25:33, 0:25:34]: Asking them. [0:25:35, 0:25:36]: When is [0:25:36, 0:25:41]: The community meeting that the developer is required to have. [0:25:42, 0:25:43]: With the homeowners. [0:25:43, 0:25:45]: I actually received a text message. [0:25:45, 0:25:46]: And it was from [0:25:47, 0:25:47]: That homeowner. [0:25:48, 0:25:49]: Who text me? [0:25:49, 0:25:51]: Um the day before. [0:25:51, 0:25:56]: The actual community information meeting that the city was hosting. [0:25:58, 0:25:59]: I asked. [0:25:59, 0:26:02]: Our staff member Ryan Anderson [0:26:02, 0:26:04]: When is the developer? [0:26:04, 0:26:05]: Battle law. [0:26:05, 0:26:08]: Going to host a meeting. [0:26:08, 0:26:10]: With the homeowners. [0:26:11, 0:26:16]: I know that our zoning requirement it requires the developer to have [0:26:17, 0:26:21]: Um communication some open forum or meeting. [0:26:21, 0:26:26]: With all of the stakeholders or businesses, residents that live within five hundred feet. [0:26:27, 0:26:29]: from the proposed developments. [0:26:29, 0:26:30]: They know that. [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: I wouldn't be standing here. [0:26:33, 0:26:35]: I wouldn't have even attended that meeting. [0:26:36, 0:26:38]: Had there been accountability? [0:26:38, 0:26:40]: On the part of staff. [0:26:40, 0:26:51]: and the developer to ensure that they gave proper notice, adequate time to those homeowners and businesses that were affected or would be [0:26:52, 0:26:52]: Affected. [0:26:53, 0:26:54]: by this proposed development. [0:26:55, 0:26:57]: That is what I started my statement saying. [0:26:57, 0:26:59]: At both of those meetings. [0:26:59, 0:27:03]: Never once did I oppose any development. [0:27:04, 0:27:07]: In fact, I said during my statement. [0:27:07, 0:27:08]: We shouldn't. [0:27:08, 0:27:10]: Close the door on developments. [0:27:11, 0:27:12]: I said that. You did. [0:27:13, 0:27:14]: А у сега. [0:27:15, 0:27:18]: А вон би станди хирбифорнію. There would not be a complaint. [0:27:19, 0:27:20]: If there were accountability [0:27:21, 0:27:23]: From staff from the very beginning. [0:27:23, 0:27:25]: To ensure [0:27:25, 0:27:27]: that the homeowners were given proper notice. [0:27:28, 0:27:32]: That's the only reason why I attended. I will continue to do my very best. [0:27:33, 0:27:34]: To represent [0:27:34, 0:27:36]: The residents, the businesses. [0:27:36, 0:27:37]: In the district. [0:27:38, 0:27:39]: That I was elected. [0:27:40, 0:27:41]: To represent. [0:27:41, 0:27:42]: That's all. [0:27:43, 0:27:52]: And rightly so. I agree with that. I think that that's why you were elected to represent your constituents and you did provide us with dates where the dates were mixed up [0:27:53, 0:28:00]: They were not furnished to the public in time enough for the public to even plan to come to the meetings. I did get that. I did bring that up. [0:28:00, 0:28:03]: And just to just to be transparent, um [0:28:04, 0:28:06]: I still have a lot of questions about it. [0:28:06, 0:28:11]: НА такір весли, в ньому амча волонтір. [0:28:12, 0:28:19]: But if I'm representing all not even in my district, but in any district of the city of Stockbridge, I've lived here for [0:28:19, 0:28:20]: Терти сам єс. [0:28:21, 0:28:28]: And I take this very, very seriously, and I want to give everyone a fair chance to. [0:28:28, 0:28:37]: Say their peace, give us all the information that we need. I appreciated all the stuff that you provided for us for supplemental information. [0:28:37, 0:28:37]: And [0:28:38, 0:28:40]: I would expect any [0:28:40, 0:28:45]: city council member to get up and go and stand up for their [0:28:45, 0:28:47]: represented district. [0:28:49, 0:28:50]: Yeah. [0:28:51, 0:29:11]: It is not my intent to violate any of our city's codes and ordinances. I understand. I'd have a I want to um go back and speak to you with regarding consistency and actual rules and how we proceed and what we're supposed to be doing. Okay. Um it's my understanding that when we receive complaints [0:29:11, 0:29:31]: that we cannot discuss the complaints and our dis uh review of these complaints in the public meeting. This is for a closed session, especially when we have not even seen um these complaints prior to coming to a meeting. So that's why we go we rush to our closed session because as you said it was [0:29:31, 0:29:49]: voluminous. We had a lot to look at. We are volunteers. We see the complaints when we get them. Um and we want to review them as soon as we can for you guys to get out if we can, if the if it's with within our purview, um get a recommendation to council. [0:29:49, 0:29:55]: Um, if the rules that we follow in [0:29:55, 0:30:04]: the um ethics board are not up to standard or you think they can be better. We're working on we're trying to work on putting some together because guess what? [0:30:05, 0:30:10]: We don't have any, so we need to recommend our procedure and rules to the council. [0:30:11, 0:30:15]: city council so that you can say, Yeah, that go ahead and do that. [0:30:16, 0:30:36]: So you're asking me things that I'm gonna end up having to turn around and ask you as a recommendation to do. So we're gonna put our we're gonna get some stuff together so that we can be consistent, so that we can come to you guys as a united front and be you'll know what we we're gonna uh uh listen to, you're gonna know what. [0:30:36, 0:30:40]: What we may have questions too. You're gonna know what's probably gonna be gone. [0:30:42, 0:31:02]: Because we want to be that consistent. And we're trying to be transparent. There's nothing that we're talking about behind closed doors that um you won't see come out in a recommendation. Okay. We have to have d our discussions. So that's what we're doing. And I hope our answer or my answer for you is is sufficient. [0:31:02, 0:31:07]: so that we can move forward. Because we're not here um to just [0:31:07, 0:31:23]: uh listen, look and you guys that think that we're not giving you what we need to give you. We're not being transparent. We're not here for that. We want to make sure that whatever complaints that we are given have been reviewed thoroughly and unbiased. [0:31:23, 0:31:37]: Okay. Sure. All right. Yes. Can I add something? You sure can yeah. And as volunteers we have attended trainings. We have been looking at other uh ethics boards in the area. We have been trying to uh [0:31:38, 0:31:45]: network with those people. But there's nothing in the code that really tells us how to act. As far as I can see in the code, we have some [0:31:46, 0:31:50]: uh dates that we have to adhere to. But we could go meet in the park. [0:31:51, 0:32:00]: You know, there's there's not a lot of direction for us. And we would also like that because we would like to be confident in what we're doing up here too. [0:32:03, 0:32:09]: That's all I had on that complaint. So if you don't have anything further on that, thank you so much for coming up and speaking with us. [0:32:09, 0:32:14]: Madam Chair, um I have another uh point of privilege, please. Sure. [0:32:14, 0:32:20]: Um I would like to say that um we have thirteen pages that we deal with in the code of ethics. [0:32:21, 0:32:26]: We are unclear on a lot of things because it is very vague. [0:32:28, 0:32:30]: We are trying to get more teeth. [0:32:31, 0:32:33]: into this so that we are just not [0:32:34, 0:32:36]: People sitting up here. [0:32:36, 0:32:37]: А [0:32:38, 0:32:40]: Trying to decide about something we have no power over. [0:32:42, 0:32:51]: And I would just like to be transparent to the people that have taken time out of their day to come to let them know that we are doing the best we can. We are trying to get [0:32:51, 0:32:54]: recommendations, but then the city council themselves [0:32:55, 0:32:58]: Have to approve everything that we recommend. [0:32:59, 0:33:01]: Otherwise it's a basic slap on the hand. [0:33:03, 0:33:05]: So just so you know. [0:33:07, 0:33:08]: We are up against [0:33:10, 0:33:11]: Thirteen pages. [0:33:13, 0:33:14]: Thank you, Madam Chair. [0:33:15, 0:33:17]: Yes. Sure. Sure. Um [0:33:18, 0:33:20]: Oh sorry. [0:33:20, 0:33:23]: I've been it's my second term. [0:33:23, 0:33:25]: If it doesn't fall. [0:33:26, 0:33:31]: Within the thirteen pages that was given to us by city council. [0:33:32, 0:33:33]: We can't rule on it. [0:33:36, 0:33:38]: You want us to do more? [0:33:38, 0:33:40]: And city council needs to give us more. [0:33:41, 0:33:42]: to work with. [0:33:44, 0:33:46]: It comes it comes from city council. [0:33:48, 0:33:48]: Not us. [0:33:50, 0:33:52]: So you want us to do more? [0:33:53, 0:33:53]: Give us more. [0:33:55, 0:33:56]: Dan is thirteen. [0:33:56, 0:33:57]: Pages. [0:33:59, 0:34:01]: You can cite code, ordinance. [0:34:02, 0:34:03]: Whatever. [0:34:03, 0:34:07]: But unless it falls within the thirteen pages [0:34:07, 0:34:08]: That we have. [0:34:11, 0:34:11]: It's not an [0:34:13, 0:34:14]: And I just want to be clear. [0:34:14, 0:34:23]: Board members are talking about the ethics the ethics code. So if you s submit a complaint to us and you do not [0:34:24, 0:34:24]: Um [0:34:26, 0:34:30]: Put in what violation you're talking about in the ethics code. [0:34:33, 0:34:38]: We're gonna probably tell you there's nothing that we can do and direct you to the correct venue. [0:34:38, 0:34:41]: Which be it which would be a different venue than this one. [0:34:42, 0:34:48]: Okay. So I you know, I don't want w we are doing what we can do and we are looking at everything. [0:34:49, 0:34:50]: But sometimes [0:34:50, 0:34:56]: Um we are within per we have to deal within our parameters, and that's the law. Okay? That's just law. [0:34:58, 0:35:00]: Um we may not be the venue for you. [0:35:01, 0:35:03]: I see you have a question. Go ahead. [0:35:16, 0:35:19]: Sir, can you come up here and say your name? [0:35:23, 0:35:25]: What was the qu uh what what did you need from me? [0:35:26, 0:35:34]: You had a comment. Yes, the comment. Just repeat your comment. [0:35:34, 0:35:45]: We have an ethics code. They're they're saying it's thirteen pages, but it's the ethics code, yes, sir. So those codes uh uh it's a limitation to that. That is correct. So other words, you gotta counsel [0:35:46, 0:35:51]: With limited access, almost like a you put a dog on a chain, they can go so far and come back. [0:35:52, 0:35:59]: Is that what I'm understanding? Well, I wouldn't use that analogy, but let me help you understand it a little bit better. Just like in any law. [0:36:00, 0:36:20]: If you go to a courtroom of law, the judge is set by whichever law you plead under. This is a specific board. We are ethics board. There is an ethics code which is already in place that we have to abide by. So any complaint that is filed before us, we have [0:36:20, 0:36:39]: To find the violation within our code. So, yes, if if what you plead and the facts that you plead are not within our code, if you don't cite any section of our code, you make us have to assume. [0:36:40, 0:36:45]: Or look for what you're talking about and try to prove for you. [0:36:45, 0:36:48]: The violation, and we can't do that. [0:36:48, 0:36:54]: So if if if you don't give us guidance as to what you're talking about under the ethics code, if you're saying that someone is being unethical [0:36:55, 0:36:58]: You need to be sure that you factually let us know. [0:36:58, 0:37:12]: how that is and you're gonna be able to do that with the ethics code. So the complaint has all that information for you. But you're gonna need a guideline to to uh subjugate or substantiate that, right? If they if you're that is correct. So our guideline is the ethics code. [0:37:13, 0:37:17]: So if the if the uh if they blew her outside the lines, then what? [0:37:17, 0:37:25]: Outside the lines meets outside of our jurisdiction, you may have some legal ramifications elsewhere, whether it be in front of the Superior Court. [0:37:26, 0:37:46]: That's where you have to go. It's a different jurisdiction. So as we as citizens so so as we as citizens, we just sit back and just let them be free will. That's why I was using the dogs and stuff. No, as a citizen, if you feel that someone is being unethical, correct, you need to you know, and and maybe at our next meeting I'll I'll have our city [0:37:46, 0:38:00]: Clerk print out the code and pass them out or make them available for anybody who comes to the door. But if you believe that someone is acting unethically, you would need to then go within that code. [0:38:01, 0:38:08]: and find where that violation exists and then explain to us where how that is so. [0:38:08, 0:38:13]: Uh last question as I close. When when uh has these uh has these codes been updated? [0:38:14, 0:38:15]: Um [0:38:18, 0:38:30]: uh I think uh social media was the last the social media was last month? July eighth. July eighth, twenty thirteen was the last time. And just so you know you see [0:38:31, 0:38:38]: July eighth, twenty thirteen was the last time this ordinance in the city charter was updated and um [0:38:39, 0:38:40]: Uh I I don't [0:38:41, 0:38:45]: I wish more people were involved with coming to city meetings and things. [0:38:45, 0:38:50]: But uh the last time this was updated that's that's why we're working on it. You can find it in [0:38:50, 0:38:56]: Just for your information, just for to tell you, it's in two point four oh [0:38:57, 0:39:01]: Dot zero one zero is where you can find the code of ethics for the city of Stockbridge. [0:39:02, 0:39:12]: Thank you for the answer. But what I'm bog mind boggling at, this is twenty twenty five. And you say that haven't been adjusted since twenty thirteen? [0:39:12, 0:39:18]: Well that's what I'm seeing right here, uh under the footnotes that are in the book that was given to us. [0:39:19, 0:39:20]: So logically the [0:39:22, 0:39:26]: It it it's sub stuff has changed from twenty thirteen to twenty twenty five, correct? [0:39:26, 0:39:31]: Well, I would think so I would think so. I mean when you say stuff has changed, so has ha [0:39:33, 0:39:34]: It possibly [0:39:35, 0:39:45]: What wha what do you mean? So these are these are what what do you mean possibly these are guidelines. So this is a fine a foundational guideline. So th I don't know how many boards have been [0:39:46, 0:40:06]: before you or have been set since that time. But if the boards haven't come forth and recommended that there be any changes or spoken with the city attorney to ask for any amendments to this particular provision, then it hasn't happened. So we can do that. You see you understand we can do that, which is why I say [0:40:06, 0:40:21]: Said we talk amongst each other about ways we can improve. Okay. So we would like for you guys to have rules that you can follow, that when you come in here, it's this, this, this. You know what's happening. When you come and see us, you know what's happening. [0:40:22, 0:40:34]: We would like to have be able to provide recommendations that I mean, I I believe we have a great foundation right now. It's just that anything that you do, you're going it's gonna be a recommendation to city council. [0:40:34, 0:40:41]: Okay, but they don't give us a lot of uh teeth as so she says. So we don't have a lot of that. [0:40:42, 0:40:52]: R right, right. Uh uh again, I don't wanna seem like s long walk through the park. You saying they so have y'all since y'all been on the board or volunteer, whatever, have y'all say, Hey, we need to [0:40:52, 0:40:54]: Uh update this year. [0:40:55, 0:40:59]: 'Cause this is a old old plane. Are are you asking, have we done that? [0:40:59, 0:41:18]: Are y'all in the process of doing it? So we're we have we discuss it, yes. But we have to be prepared to present something to um city council. It's a recommendation. So it would be recommended and it would have to go through channels because if we amend it, it become it is legal. [0:41:18, 0:41:26]: So the city attorney would have to then step in for that. So w so when would those uh be presented to to the uh whoever? [0:41:26, 0:41:46]: Are you trying to get us on a timeline? You you trying to get on the phone. Right. Yep. So after we get through this uh voluminous review of all of these complaints that we received in May, we could possibly start talking on our off. [0:41:46, 0:42:05]: time because right now all we do is review complaints. Okay. So when we so when we get on our off time and we have opportunity to discuss with each other and get something together, then we can do that. I can't give you a date. I won't do that. Cause I don't no, don't give me that face. I'm giving you a lot here right now. [0:42:05, 0:42:07]: But we we're gonna need time. [0:42:08, 0:42:10]: Can I give you a uh can you give me some expectation? [0:42:11, 0:42:29]: An expectation that we're we are looking into it. Yes. Okay, well I'll be revising uh how we up to that and revisit that. Thank you very much. I would like to add to that. Um part of that is my responsibility for pulling information. I have pulled information from at least twenty different ethics board. [0:42:29, 0:42:32]: Committees in and out of Georgia. [0:42:33, 0:42:35]: And all twenty of them are different. [0:42:36, 0:42:38]: There are not one [0:42:39, 0:42:42]: That's the same. Have have they updated there since twenty thirteen? [0:42:44, 0:42:49]: Some of because some of'em are new, they were just um ethics board was just established. [0:42:51, 0:42:53]: So that should have been some kind of learning point from there, right? [0:42:54, 0:43:01]: Well not necessarily. Not necessar I mean ethics uh ha you know, being moral and just and [0:43:02, 0:43:12]: Honest, uh hasn't really changed that much since two thousand thirteen. And that's really what you're right, morals have definitely b gone to degeneracy. Yep, you're absolutely right on that. [0:43:12, 0:43:22]: Well, you know, so I I think updating these is is I think these are sufficient for what they are. But I think we need to go further. [0:43:23, 0:43:24]: Yeah. [0:43:24, 0:43:35]: Yeah. We're evolving. We're trying to but everything is evolving way a lot faster than what's need to be contained that involvement in if that makes any sense. [0:43:35, 0:43:45]: So when I say that we pr we have a sufficient parameter in the ethical in the ethics code that is established right now, we would typically be um [0:43:46, 0:44:06]: Only asking for um some rules and procedures to be put in place that will help us or help the board moving forward and those who file complaints understand a little bit better. Not necessarily anything legal, okay? Not anything um, for example, and we haven't talked [0:44:06, 0:44:12]: about this, but as far as uh our discretion of um disciplinary measures. [0:44:12, 0:44:32]: The only thing right now is for us to if if someone gives us an example of what they would like to see happen, right? We could adopt that and recommend that to city council. But city council, if someone violates the code, let me tell you what they can do. I I already I already know what you know? Yeah. [0:44:32, 0:44:36]: What tells you? [0:44:36, 0:44:41]: No, they can issue a public rep reprimand or censure. [0:44:42, 0:44:44]: Or they can request for resignation. [0:44:45, 0:45:00]: This code refers to basically the interaction with our city council amongst themselves, with their staff, and with the public in certain scenarios. That's it. [0:45:01, 0:45:12]: That's what we have. So when you get a lot of complaints coming in here, which, you know, they're definitely outside of our parameters, we're still looking at it just to make sure that, you know. [0:45:12, 0:45:25]: And it is what it is. But I think that has to stay. We are not a we are not a judiciary. We don't we're not judges. We're not we're not here for that. So if if if it's a legal matter that needs to be in a different venue, it needs to be there. [0:45:26, 0:45:31]: But but your uh duty is to for to make sure they operate within the perimeters and the guidelines, right? [0:45:31, 0:45:51]: Of of an ethical standard conduct, yes. Right. Right. Yes. Okay. Yeah. But I am gonna come back and I I know. And also I would like to say that whatever we recommend still has to go to the city council and they vote on it. So Right. That's my concern right there. That is [0:45:51, 0:45:56]: my concern. More people need to be involved. Yeah, I I got you. That's my concern right there. Thank you. [0:45:59, 0:46:02]: Okay. Sure. [0:46:03, 0:46:04]: [2765.2, 2765.9]: Yes, please. [0:46:11, 0:46:11]: No. [0:46:12, 0:46:22]: Right, so real quick, I'm just um you spoke earlier and you said that this is not a hearing today, it's just pretty much getting clarity. So am I able to leave now and [0:46:23, 0:46:29]: Yes, ma'am. We didn't ha I don't does anybody have any questions for Miss Thomas on her particular complaint? I did not. Okay. [0:46:30, 0:46:50]: And so someone will reach out to me via email or so what we're going to do is try to get a um recommendation in writing. That recommendation will be then given over to the clerk to commit to um letterhead. And I believe the clerk then issues I I'm not do you mail them to complainants or do you [0:46:50, 0:46:50]: You just [0:46:51, 0:46:56]: Y she she'll email you. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for coming. Yes, ma'am. [0:47:07, 0:47:08]: About the complaint? [0:47:08, 0:47:15]: Just giving you guys some documentation that Councilmember Alexander provided. Is it outside of the documentation that he already gave us? No. [0:47:16, 0:47:19]: I don't need it. Thank you. [0:47:19, 0:47:23]: Just want to make sure you had it. We have several copies each, yeah. I feel like. [0:47:26, 0:47:26]: Okay. [0:47:28, 0:47:48]: Um at what point do does the um complaint get an opportunity to see the information that was provided um by the um opposition. Um the information that was given by Councilmember Barber today um was not I have not been provided with that information and [0:47:48, 0:47:58]: And I think that there needs clarity. And if I can supplement the information that I have already submitted, I would like to be able to do so. [0:47:58, 0:47:59]: So [0:48:03, 0:48:04]: Switch to the city attorney. [0:48:06, 0:48:06]: What? [0:48:07, 0:48:09]: It went to the city term. [0:48:11, 0:48:15]: 'Cause I would assume that she's seeing my complaint. She's who is Ross. [0:48:16, 0:48:23]: I'm not sure. Is there someone do you practice with someone with the last name Ross? [0:48:23, 0:48:27]: Valerie Ross is the county's uh is the city's um zoning attorney. [0:48:33, 0:48:41]: So not sure so what you're saying is you didn't receive any um corresponding or supplemental information that might have been provided by Ms. Barber regarding your complaint? [0:48:42, 0:48:43]: Correct. Okay. [0:48:44, 0:48:46]: And I assume that she's seen the complaint that I filed. [0:48:47, 0:48:54]: She absolutely has seen the complaint that you filed, but I don't Correct, I have not seen anything in regards to her response. I don't think you [0:48:55, 0:49:00]: Did you did you provide any supporting document with that particular complaint? Yes, you did. [0:49:01, 0:49:03]: Do you have it? Yes, I did. [0:49:05, 0:49:11]: So if you could just ask Mr. Because if you if you need to respond, um Correct. [0:49:12, 0:49:17]: Do you wanna respond now or do you wanna respond in writing? I would prefer just respond in writing. [0:49:19, 0:49:39]: 'Cause I'm I can give you that privilege, um, but I d I believe that um we asked the questions that we needed to ask with regards to that, but I will not limit you in providing information if that's what you want to do. However, I need do you know when you are going to be um submitting that's I think I think that my my [0:49:39, 0:49:59]: Response to what she said, um while I certainly appreciate um the issue that she raised um with regards to the community meeting that the city has a uh CZIM, what's called a CZIM meeting that is ran by the city. Um the notice um that was sent out and the issues that she has raised with regard [0:49:59, 0:50:09]: regards to them, um, certainly are appropriate things for her to raise at the city council meeting, at which time she could have then asked either for [0:50:09, 0:50:15]: those meetings to be rehad, or she could have asked or she could have just said, I wanna deny it. [0:50:15, 0:50:22]: Whatever the case was that she wanted to do, the appropriate time for that would have been at the city council meeting, not at [0:50:22, 0:50:42]: The planning commission meeting because that is an advisory board. And she got up and spoke when they called for opposition to come and speak about the application, and then went through a complete dialogue with regards to her issues and concerns about the city and not having a chance. [0:50:42, 0:51:02]: To review with the new properties that had been annexed into the city, and she went into a long dialogue with that. And I think if you saw on both applications, not only my application, she also did the same thing with the special land use permit application that was filed by the woman who was trying to get the personal care home. [0:51:02, 0:51:22]: So it didn't have anything specifically to do just with um the issues with notice to the public hearing because she spoke not only against my um action, but she also spoke in opposition to that special land use permit application as well. And so I just want to be clear. [0:51:22, 0:51:31]: Your concern is that the city council member is at the individual meetings versus using her platform. [0:51:31, 0:51:51]: um to to voice her opposition during the city council meeting. That is where she is to to set forth her opposition. So it sounds like she has an issue with staff, which with regards to um at least my specific matter, that she had a issue with how the public [0:51:51, 0:51:59]: Hearing uh notices that went out that she had an issue with regards to that. And instead of addressing that issue directly with them. [0:52:00, 0:52:03]: Амден узінгформ а Сити Консел. [0:52:03, 0:52:04]: To make direction. [0:52:05, 0:52:08]: That she chose instead to come to a planning комісім meeting. [0:52:08, 0:52:15]: and stand in opposition, which simply is inappropriate and an inappropriate time to do that. [0:52:16, 0:52:20]: And so, from my perspective, she has undermined the process in and of itself. [0:52:22, 0:52:23]: Because that is not appropriate. [0:52:24, 0:52:30]: Okay. Here's our concern, and I'm just here's our concern. Um [0:52:31, 0:52:51]: She and we and we did see this meeting. Ms. Barber was not the only one who spoke out in opposition. Oh, that's fine. And we have to then determine whether what she did was unethical to a point of influence of [0:52:51, 0:53:11]: And this is why I asked you where any leaders were there. Um, a leader who would then have turn around and and and move on her behalf. Okay. If there were other we we would then be speculating that she influenced this particular leader, and I'm just saying, just just use one person, for example. [0:53:11, 0:53:12]: We would have to speculate. [0:53:13, 0:53:15]: That she influenced this person. Is this person here? [0:53:16, 0:53:16]: Is any [0:53:17, 0:53:35]: that she influenced them because there were other per people who spoke out in opposition. Okay. So even if she did speak on behalf of her constituents at that time, it doesn't take us far enough to say that she was in in some type of she was acting unethically in her position. So so this is what I'll say and [0:53:36, 0:53:53]: And I want this to be very clear to coun councilmember Barber because I've dealt with you on other matters. Hold on. You can speak to us. We understand. And no, out of respect for her. Got I got you. I understand. This is not something personal for me. Right. This is professional for me. I understand. I've been a land use and zoning attorney for over 25 years. [0:53:53, 0:53:56]: And the integrity of the process is important. Mm-hmm. [0:54:02, 0:54:07]: Mm-hmm. Your mic went off. Did you press it? Mistakes happen. Thank you. [0:54:08, 0:54:20]: in other jurisdictions where those kind of issues have occurred, then you will see the council member or the commissioner at the public hearing that they are um tasked with. [0:54:20, 0:54:40]: Indicate that there was some anomaly in either the hearing process or the notice process, or that you need them to go back and have another hearing. Um, or you want the pri process needs to, you know, start back afresh. Whatever that is, the appropriate time for that is at the city council meeting. Okay. It is not at the planning council. [0:54:40, 0:54:41]: Commission meeting [0:54:41, 0:54:45]: Were you as an elected official who was making the final decision? [0:54:45, 0:54:49]: comes to influence those who are there at that meeting. [0:54:49, 0:54:56]: to rule in a manner that supports your position. That is my position on it. Now maybe you all feel that you all can't [0:54:57, 0:55:03]: um uh cover that, that that does not constitute an ethical violation. I get that. [0:55:03, 0:55:15]: If that's the decision you all make, I will respect that decision. But I want it to be clear not only um to you all, but to Councilmember Barber that simply is not appropriate. So you're so you would like for [0:55:16, 0:55:18]: Your recommendation to be then. [0:55:19, 0:55:20]: To avoid [0:55:20, 0:55:24]: any conflict of interest to avoid any um [0:55:24, 0:55:41]: sign of or appearance of being unethical to have a council member not speak up at an individual meeting, but to instead voice their c um opinion of whether good or bad. [0:55:42, 0:55:51]: on their platform Absolutely at City Council. Absolutely. However, you do understand that they would be t it would be for me, um [0:55:51, 0:56:11]: an option to state if they will ha want to have their constituents there to make it known for to get their constituents out absolutely versus her speaking, she can be there. You do understand that. She can she can be present at the meeting, but she is an opinion. Absolutely. That that that is not appropriate. I was at a city council minute meeting [0:56:11, 0:56:31]: in uh the city of South Fulton. And there were two city council members who attended the planning commission meeting. They said they sat in the very front row. They said nothing. It's not unreasonable, Miss That Miss Battle. We understand you. I just wanted you to make sure that you know we did review it. Under she didn't we cannot find that she acted unethically at that point. But [0:56:31, 0:56:51]: But we do understand that it would be best in the best interest of everyone. Absolutely. And that and that really is all that I'm trying to achieve. It is a process that has legal implications. And when we are going through the process, everyone wants to be treated fairly. I understand that she wants her constituents to be informed and [0:56:51, 0:57:11]: And to be notified, and that is fine. And if I have failed in that moment, I have no problem going back and revisiting or doing whatever I need to do in order to rectify that. But the time to do it, I've never in my 25 years of doing this have ever seen a council member or a commissioner come to a planning commission meeting and when they call for opposition. [0:57:11, 0:57:12]: Position [0:57:12, 0:57:14]: That that person stands up. [0:57:15, 0:57:25]: And talks in any way, shape, or form. It's simply not appropriate. And so for the integrity of the process, I felt that this was the only forum because when I asked her to recuse herself. [0:57:26, 0:57:46]: Um and sent the letter for that purpose. She indicated that she would um to others, because I never heard back, that she would not do that. So the only platform that I would have to be able to voice my issues and concerns would be this one. And so that is why I have to do that. The vote has not, because I've asked for it to be deferred until this session um or whatever decision. [0:57:46, 0:57:51]: decision you all made was over so that I knew how to advise my clients in terms of how to proceed. [0:57:51, 0:58:05]: Okay. Thank you. So that that's all I'll have to say on it and whatever you all decide. Do you still would you still like to submit something? I mean you don't have to do that. I've said I've said all that I have to say. I mean I'm not the trust me. The last thing I want to do [0:58:05, 0:58:25]: As a zoning attorney, is file an ethics complaint against a person who's voting on things that I have to continue to bring forward. So you have to know that this was very difficult for me to have to even do because I still have to come before council member Barber and the other members of the council on things that are coming up in in her desp in her district. So you would have [0:58:25, 0:58:26]: Mm-hmm. [0:58:27, 0:58:47]: That this was not what I wanted to do, but I did not feel that I was getting a voice to understand how we got to this moment and why it is so important not to do what was happening. And as long as you know that anything we recommend goes to city council, then they would have to to vote on that recommendation. Okay. Okay. Or accept it. I'm sorry. [0:58:47, 0:58:51]: Thank you. [0:58:51, 0:59:11]: Will. Um again, it is not my intent to violate any codes at all, but I will continue representing the folks who elected me to represent them. In this case, again, there would be no need for me to speak at either the planning commission meeting or the community zoning meeting. [0:59:11, 0:59:13]: [3553.6, 3554.7]: Head staff. [0:59:14, 0:59:16]: And the developer. [0:59:16, 0:59:33]: been held accountable for ensuring that they met the requirements of notifying all of the stakeholders who live within five hundred feet. I was only notified in that's the homeowner that notified me just the night before, in which I did send the email [0:59:33, 0:59:36]: along with the copy of the letter [0:59:37, 0:59:40]: Ві текст та восценти мі тю став. [0:59:40, 0:59:41]: Asking them. [0:59:42, 0:59:51]: This date is wrong or has it already passed? They're gonna reschedule it. But as you know, a lot of my emails and communications are ignored. [0:59:52, 0:59:54]: By staff members. They're being told to do it. [0:59:55, 0:59:56]: It is what I [0:59:56, 1:00:03]: claimed to you all last year during my first complaint against the mayor, there is a lot of interference. [1:00:03, 1:00:07]: All I want to do is serve the best way that I know how. [1:00:08, 1:00:09]: I'm not gonna stop. [1:00:09, 1:00:19]: Now I did receive the letter that Battle Law sent me requesting that I recuse myself from voting on this particular matter. [1:00:19, 1:00:22]: And my response was, I would not. [1:00:22, 1:00:35]: My vote, whether in opposition or approval, has had no impact on the final outcome of any development proposal that has come before this council. [1:00:35, 1:00:55]: So whether I abstain, approve, oppose, my one vote has not determined the outcome of any development proposals that have been submitted to the council over the last three, four years, because there is there has been a consensus vote of three council members. [1:00:55, 1:01:09]: That doesn't include me. So I explained that to the city attorney and Valerie Ross, the zoning attorney. When they sent me, when they forwarded me the letter, asking me to recuse myself, I was offended actually. [1:01:10, 1:01:11]: Because they know. [1:01:11, 1:01:15]: Miss Miss Battle knows as well, my one vote means nothing. [1:01:16, 1:01:21]: It's not gonna determine the outcome of any of the d development proposals. [1:01:21, 1:01:30]: History that's just the history of all of it. But I will continue representing um the people the best way that I know how. It is not my intent. [1:01:31, 1:01:38]: To break any laws, any codes. Okay. And we and we hear you and we understand you, but do you understand the appearance of it? [1:01:39, 1:01:59]: And again, I wouldn't have had to attend any of the meetings had the rescheduled date been communicated back to the case. Did you hear uh correct? Did you hear Ms. Battle state that if has she known that it was inappropriate or what didn't go out right if you had contacted her office? Oh I did. Okay, so that happened. They were aware that those dates. [1:01:58, 1:02:01]: Was af was it was it prior to the meeting, ma'am? [1:02:04, 1:02:12]: So it so did she not did she know that your constituents did not get appropriate notice before you attended or before the meeting? [1:02:12, 1:02:16]: So again the date the letter. [1:02:17, 1:02:21]: Included a date that had already passed. [1:02:21, 1:02:23]: That's why I attended the meeting. [1:02:23, 1:02:30]: When is the developer going to hold a meeting with the homeowners? I'd communicate only had one day. [1:02:31, 1:02:35]: Before the community zoning meeting. [1:02:36, 1:02:42]: What what more was I supposed to do? The accountability is not with me, it's with staff. [1:02:42, 1:02:45]: But I can't make them do anything. [1:02:45, 1:02:53]: So and and I would and I would suggest that you don't think that your vote doesn't count. I mean you you say you won't recru recuse yourself because your vote [1:02:53, 1:03:08]: You got one vote, but your vote doesn't count. That doesn't that does. My vote has my one vote has not ever determined the outcome. But what if it does in this case? My one vote has never [1:03:09, 1:03:16]: Never in the past two, three years determined the outcome. Okay. It has not. All right. They know that. [1:03:16, 1:03:23]: The city attorneys and the zoning attorney, they know that. For me to recuse myself. [1:03:23, 1:03:26]: It was actually offensive to me. [1:03:26, 1:03:33]: Well, I I wanna say, uh, board members, I don't believe that that was in the complaint that the um [1:03:33, 1:03:35]: That was what she was requesting. [1:03:36, 1:03:45]: No, I think it was only that the dates were not correct. We're talking about that, but that's not that wasn't in her complaint as a a form of um [1:03:47, 1:03:57]: No, and I was wondering, Miss Battle, you said you did not receive any information, but I have information here that says that you sent a letter to uh mister Washington. [1:03:57, 1:03:59]: And um [1:04:00, 1:04:10]: Then Mr Washington and Miss Ross had a conversation with uh Councilmember Barber. So did you not receive the information that they that they discussed? [1:04:13, 1:04:22]: From her, what I heard was through the city council. I see uh through the attorneys that she had indicated that she would not recuse herself. Okay, thank you. [1:04:23, 1:04:32]: So thank you. Mm-hmm. Okay. All right. So board at this time it is [1:04:33, 1:04:53]: Where's my clock? 813. 813. I have 814. You slaughter. So I at this time I want us to um adjourn. We're our bo the board is going to adjourn to the closed session so that we can discuss what we need to discuss. It is um 814. Can I get a motion to adjourn? [1:04:53, 1:05:13]: And those parties who are here, you are welcome to leave. There won't be there will be no further um determinations. Determinations or any recommendations that will be uh set forth today because we have to get those uh committed to writing for our clerk and then um we will schedule another. [1:05:12, 1:05:15]: another meeting where we will give those, okay? [1:05:15, 1:05:21]: So at this time, can I get a motion to uh adjourn? Motion to adjourn to executive session. All right. Can I get a second? [1:05:23, 1:05:27]: It has been moved to second. Anybody opposed to adjournment for a closed session? [1:05:27, 1:05:30]: None, we will do so at this time. Thank you. [1:05:44, 1:05:45]: Yeah, yeah. [1:05:55, 1:05:57]: I don't think so. [1:06:02, 1:06:03]: I think what you mean? [1:06:05, 1:06:07]: And it's important to [1:06:13, 1:06:15]: Pretty sure it's really. [1:06:24, 1:06:25]: Yeah. [1:07:14, 1:07:15]: Thank you for that. [1:07:22, 1:07:23]: Okay. [1:07:25, 1:07:29]: The mic phone for everybody that's not me. Let's see what time it is. [1:07:31, 1:07:38]: Okay, it is nine fourteen. Uh the executive session is closed. We are moving to open [1:07:39, 1:07:42]: The public meeting, can I get a motion? [1:07:43, 1:07:55]: Motion to adjourn or to move back to public meeting. Yes. Second. Okay. It has been moved and second to come back into our open session. Public meeting. Can is there any o opposition? [1:07:56, 1:08:01]: No opposition has been moved a second. We are back in our open meeting and at this time. [1:08:01, 1:08:07]: We would um move to ad or we would I would like to take a motion to adjourn. [1:08:07, 1:08:15]: What we need to do Oh no, no, sorry, sorry, sorry, we got some stuff to do. Yeah, we need to set another date. Yes, we need a date for our next meeting. [1:08:20, 1:08:20]: Mm-hmm. [1:08:25, 1:08:26]: But that's what known as. [1:08:27, 1:08:28]: So [1:08:29, 1:08:38]: So we are the first complaint was filed May second. Okay. So we have And we have until Jul so we have until July second. [1:08:38, 1:08:40]: Well we've already so [1:08:41, 1:08:43]: Is that with um Phedra? [1:08:43, 1:08:54]: So she was here. So we've already done what we needed to do with regards to her. So we don't necessarily we're with we're within that sixty days of reply and all that. She was she stood up [1:08:54, 1:09:09]: Um, so we don't have to that's just for a hearing. And even with regards to that, if we're outside of that sixty days, we can be. Yeah, we have we still have the right to extend it if we need to. Okay. So we're good. We just need I think we have a we have a meeting on the books. [1:09:11, 1:09:16]: We do have a meeting sometime in July. It was July twenty third, maybe? [1:09:17, 1:09:30]: Let me see if that's what it is. No, it's not the twenty third. Yeah, it's it's the twenty third at six uh well I No, that's a Monday, so it couldn't have been that. July twenty fifth,'cause we usually have'em on Wednesdays. Is is it the twenty fifth? The twenty third is on a Wednesday. [1:09:31, 1:09:42]: Oh, July. I am I am in June. I thought you said not to do it for the We had talked about that back. Oh, I don't know, a while back. We did, but we talked about that in the April meeting. [1:09:43, 1:09:46]: You I thought you had a date. That's on one of these [1:09:48, 1:09:53]: We didn't. It ain't on this one. Mm mm. But it definitely was a July date. Is this something that we can keep? [1:09:56, 1:10:07]: Is it a July date we think it is? I would have to find I don't I don't have it. So there's a July twenty-third, and since the twenty-third was in my mind, I'm assuming that was the date that we picked. I think it was. Okay. [1:10:07, 1:10:10]: Um, is that still good for everybody? [1:10:10, 1:10:27]: It may not be good for me, but I have a it may not work because I have um mock trial. I'm a coach for mock trial and I wanna say that that's the week for it. So you wanna Um, but I'm not sure. Okay,'cause I'm not sure. We can go up or down. [1:10:27, 1:10:36]: Okay. Um or you can just run a meeting. No meeting. Yes, absolutely. Well what about the thirtieth? Um, are we pushing it? [1:10:37, 1:10:39]: With the end of July on these. [1:10:42, 1:10:53]: Yeah. It's is is bad time. Um and that's why I think we put we got the twenty third on there. The next Wednesday, that Wednesday prior would be the sixteenth of July. [1:10:53, 1:10:55]: Can we do July sixteenth? [1:10:59, 1:11:05]: Okay. I will not be what say it again. I will not be here during that time. Okay, that was why we pushed it back. Well wait a second. What what have you [1:11:07, 1:11:08]: Vanessa has her finger. [1:11:09, 1:11:12]: Okay. Well let's keep it the twenty third. Um [1:11:13, 1:11:18]: We can always change it if we need to. Yeah, we'll still have a quorum if I'm not here. [1:11:19, 1:11:26]: Yes, we can always change it. I think um during that meeting we are going to be issuing our recommendations, right? [1:11:29, 1:11:30]: We'll get those to you. [1:11:32, 1:11:36]: So that's fine. Let's keep it for the twenty third then. At six thirty. [1:11:37, 1:11:40]: Um okay, yeah. [1:11:40, 1:11:43]: What what are we? Six thirty. [1:11:51, 1:11:52]: I can make a motion to adjourn. [1:11:53, 1:11:58]: Yes, can I get a motion to adjourn? I can make the motion to adjourn. [1:11:59, 1:12:14]: Make it. I'd make a motion to adjourn. Second, second. Yeah. It has been moved and seconded. Anybody opposed?'Cause you will get fought. All right, we've moved and seconded. We've moved to adjourn. The time is nine nineteen.

--- title: City Council Special Called Meeting date: 2025-05-29 source: 2025-05-29_City_Council_Special_Called_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:33, 0:00:35]: Waiting for waiting for you to come out, okay. [0:00:39, 0:00:40]: It's really a lot of [0:00:41, 0:00:44]: No, I'm not supposed to do it all. [0:00:48, 0:00:51]: doing itself. [0:01:07, 0:01:08]: Or reduced. [0:01:23, 0:01:24]: Yeah, it's still a hard way. [0:01:29, 0:01:32]: So [0:01:44, 0:01:47]: I'm doing one of the basketballs. [0:01:47, 0:01:50]: And I should. [0:01:54, 0:01:59]: Right here. [0:02:01, 0:02:03]: [124.5, 127.2]: It's kind of some matter of it. [0:02:08, 0:02:10]: What's the delivery? [0:02:16, 0:02:17]: Yeah. [0:02:22, 0:02:22]: Yeah. [0:02:27, 0:02:29]: Yeah, always really. [0:02:36, 0:02:38]: And then you can see what's right. [0:02:52, 0:02:53]: But there are no point. [0:03:02, 0:03:03]: Okay, so I mean. [0:03:04, 0:03:06]: You will have. [0:03:10, 0:03:12]: It's too funny. [0:03:14, 0:03:15]: It's not a nice bottle at all. [0:03:16, 0:03:19]: Maybe just control one or [0:03:19, 0:03:24]: D I as I as I [0:03:26, 0:03:32]: Yeah, it's not the epic minute stuff. So the highest point. [0:03:33, 0:03:35]: That's all that we have. [0:03:39, 0:03:39]: Yeah. [0:03:41, 0:03:50]: Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we'll get started with our special call meeting. I have four actually four fifteen. I just call the meeting to order. Uh please stand for the invocation. [0:03:53, 0:04:12]: Lord, thank you to bring us together once again to do the city's business as we can have our special call meeting in reference to the interview process for our next city manager. Be us always, Lord, and make good logical decisions for our citizens and uh movement forward for the citizen, for the city itself. Be us always, Lord, in your name. Amen. Do the Pledge of Allegiance. [0:04:13, 0:04:23]: To the United States of America and to the Republic for what sustain us one nation, under God, individuals, but liberty and justice for all. [0:04:24, 0:04:25]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:04:29, 0:04:30]: Present. [0:04:35, 0:04:47]: Council Member Thomas is not in attendance. Council Member Berry. Let the record reflect. Council Member Berry is not in attendance. Council Member Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. Present. [0:04:48, 0:04:50]: Ms. Gatser. [0:04:50, 0:04:55]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Council need a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:04:55, 0:05:15]: For a special question. Is there a second? Second. Okay, from Ms. Gantt to Mr. Alexander. I'm fair, please indicate. She names the decision there. Now I need a motion to go into executive session for uh personnel for our interview process. So moved. Is there a second? Second. Okay for Ms. Gantt to Mr. Alexander. All I've heard, please indicate. Okay, now decision. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back after our interview process. [0:05:15, 0:05:16]: Yeah. [0:05:33, 0:05:41]: We're good. Okay. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, um all right, council, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. So moved. [0:05:41, 0:06:01]: Okay. Second. Well, can Miss Gantt to Mr. Berry? All in favor, please indicate. So now it's the decision. Now I need a motion to uh reconvene our special call meeting, please. So move. Okay. Okay. Once again, Gantt to Mr. Berry. All in favor, please indicate. And for now we're back on our regular special call meeting. At this time, we have nothing to report in reference to our executive [0:06:01, 0:06:12]: session and this particular meeting and so I need now a motion to um end our special call meeting please so move okay second okay from Ms. Gantt to Mr. Berry again all in favor please indicate [0:06:12, 0:06:13]: God bless you all. Good night.

--- title: Regular Council Meetings date: 2025-05-12 source: 2025-05-12_Regular_Council_Meetings.wav --- [0:00:00, 0:00:16]: And it's a celebration of cultural traditions and history of Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders in the United States. Whereas the 2025 theme, A Legacy of Leadership and Resilience, highlights the contributions of past leaders and strength of the AANHPI community. [0:00:16, 0:00:25]: Whereas more than twenty-four million people in the United States identify as Asian, with 1.8 million identifying as native Hawaiian, Pacific Islanders, or a combination. [0:00:26, 0:00:46]: These diverse communities have enriched our country and generations to come. And now therefore I, Anthony Splor, by Virtual Authority Vesamee, as a mayor of the city of Stockbridge, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander, Ilana, Barber, Kyle, Berry, Lukeese, Gannon, Afonso Thomas, we hereby proclaim May 2025 as Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month. [0:00:46, 0:00:55]: upon the people at the Starbreach community to learn more about the histories of the Asian American Pacific Island community and find inspiration to celebrate throughout the month of May and beyond. [0:00:56, 0:01:10]: And witness thereof I have here undo set my hand, the great CLC of Starbreach, Georgia, on 12th day of May, year of our Lord 2025. And I signed a proclamation along with our clerk for National Holiday. And I want to issue this to you. [0:01:12, 0:01:29]: Okay. Now normally whenever you do this, whenever you do this, the floor is yours. So whatever comments that you want to make to the audience, we're we're live. And so if you want to make the mic's right there, if you want any comments whatsoever, the floor is yours. If you want to say anything at all. Clear clear up to you. [0:01:29, 0:01:49]: Thank you for honoring. Okay. You're more than welcome. Tell us about your business. Oh well, we have the same kind of business. Um we have I have two beauty supply stores in the city of Stockbridge, one on Davis Road and one on North [0:01:49, 0:01:51]: pandemy and we just had a ribbon cutting [0:01:51, 0:02:11]: Um with the newest one about three weeks ago and Mayor Ford was here and she was here. Thank you so much. And um yes, I can't wait to grow our business within the community and um thank you everyone. No problem. Congratulations. I appreciate it. Thank you. Absolutely. So it's middle down here and the photograph. [0:02:11, 0:02:29]: Well my my necessary and uh did you want to betune your relatives here at all? Yes, all they are actually visiting from Korea, South Korea. Um this is my aunt and this is my uncle and he's a navy navy veteran. He served for more than twenty years and he has there here to visit and [0:02:40, 0:02:53]: It's an honor to give this award to Henry. Thank you. Okay. All right, so we'll take a picture of you, probably a little closer here. [0:03:01, 0:03:06]: Thank you. [0:03:07, 0:03:12]: And so mainly to all you're visiting fantastic. [0:03:13, 0:03:20]: Congratulations. Thank you so much. Congratulations. Congratulations. [0:03:21, 0:03:22]: It's either. [0:03:25, 0:03:34]: Well uh obviously we wanted to recognize uh in a sense recognize uh our uh employees here and and what we have a proclamation for National Public Works Week. [0:03:34, 0:03:37]: People, purpose and presence. Mr Barnes, please. [0:03:42, 0:03:43]: Come on this side, sir. [0:03:45, 0:04:00]: All right. So whereas the public works professionals uh focus on infrastructure, facilities and services that are of vital importance to the sustainability of the resistant resilient communities and to the public health, high quality of life and well being of the people of City Stockbridge. [0:04:00, 0:04:19]: And whereas these infrastructure facilities and services could not be provided without dedicated efforts of public work professionals who are engineers, managers, and employees of all levels of government in the private sector, who are responsible for rebuilding, improving, and protecting our nation's transportation, water supply, water treatment, and solid waste systems. [0:04:19, 0:04:23]: public buildings and and other structures and facilities essential to our citizens. [0:04:23, 0:04:37]: Whereas in the in the public interest for our citizens, civic leaders and children of the city of Stockbridge, you gain knowledge of and maintain an ongoing interest and the understanding of the importance of public works and the public works programs in their respective communities. [0:04:38, 0:04:52]: Whereas the year 2025 marks the sixty fifth annual National Public Works Week, sponsored by the American Public Works Associations slash Canadian Public Works Association. Now therefore I am Anthony Ford by Virtual Authority Vester in Means, America City Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:04:52, 0:04:58]: On behalf of city council members Elton Alzheimer's Lana Barber Kyle Berry Lukeese Gantt and Afonso Thomas do hereby designate [0:04:58, 0:05:01]: The week of May eighteenth to twenty fourth, twenty twenty five. [0:05:01, 0:05:11]: As the National Public Works Week, we urge all citizens to join the representatives of the American Public Works Association, the government agencies and activities, events, ceremonies designed. [0:05:11, 0:05:27]: To pay tribute to our public works professionals, engineers, managers, employees, and to recognize substantial contributions they make to protecting our national health, safety, and advancing quality of life for all. A witness thereof whereof I have here in the set of my hand at Great CLC Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:05:27, 0:05:38]: 12 day May year of our lawyer 2025. And I signed a proclamation of Lominal Cleric Vanessa Holiday. Congratulations, sir. [0:05:39, 0:05:47]: Now once again the mic is yours, sir, if you wanna have any comments or anything you wanna say. Just on behalf of Public Works we'd like to say thank you. [0:05:47, 0:05:48]: Okay, good stuff. [0:05:51, 0:05:53]: And we'll come over here for taking Christmas. [0:05:56, 0:05:56]: Yeah. [0:05:57, 0:05:58]: Really? [0:05:59, 0:06:00]: Very easily. [0:06:01, 0:06:08]: Congratulations very well. Thank you very much. Okay, let's see here. [0:06:11, 0:06:14]: Now let's see here is [0:06:17, 0:06:37]: Do the National Day of Prayer. All right, there's a recognition of them. We had a ceremony with Kyle Berry. Uh Councilman Berry did this uh over a week or so ago, but we'll read a proclamation on this here at this particular meeting. Pour out uh for the God of hope and be filled. Whereas throughout our history, Americans have always found a power and the unity [0:06:37, 0:06:57]: Through prayer, our nation acknowledges the religious liberty and a natural right given to us by our Creator, not the courtesy of the government extends to us. Whereas the National Day of Prayer has been a part of our heritage since it's declared to be the first Continental Congress in 1775, a public law established in the United States. [0:06:57, 0:07:17]: Congress in 1952, approved by a joint resolution and later amended by Congress and President Reagan and the Public Law 100-307 in 1988, affirming that it is essential for us as a nation to pray and dur and direct the President of the United States and to sign a prop and proclaim first Thursday of May analyst. [0:07:17, 0:07:31]: National Day of Prayer. Rest today on the National Day of Prayer. We once again come together and give thanks to the Almighty God for the bountiful blessings He's bestowed on our great nation and ask His unfailing counsel. [0:07:32, 0:07:52]: We also acknowledge our dependence of God's love and guide our families, communities, and our country away from the harm and towards abundance and peace. Whereas in our city, across America, an observance of National Day of Prayer will be held on Thursday, May 1st, 2025, with the theme of pour out to God of hope to be filled, based on Romans 1533. [0:07:52, 0:08:12]: thirteen. Whereas our nation's honored tradition of prayer has sustained us and strengthened our trust that God will continue to watch over our con and accommodate, accompany us through the best of times and the darkest hours. May we as Americans never forget the power of prayer and the greatness of our Creator on this national day of prayer. Let us each according to our [0:08:12, 0:08:27]: our own face call upon God and his guidance express the gratitude for the love and grace he bestows on us in our country. Now therefore I Anthony Sword by virtual authority vessel me as the mayor of the city of Starbury, Georgia. And on behalf of city council members Eldon Alexander, Lana Barber, Kyle Berry, [0:08:27, 0:08:30]: Keys again Alfonso Thomas to here hereby proclaim [0:08:30, 0:08:50]: May first, twenty twenty five was National Day of Prayer, and invite all to prayer in accordance with our own faith and con uh consequences in Thanksgiving for freedoms and blessings we have received, and for God's protection. And witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand, twelfth day of May 2025, the cause of fifth seal of the great city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:08:50, 0:08:53]: Now sign this along with our clerk Vanessa Holliday. [0:08:53, 0:09:04]: And since you're standing next to me, sir, I'm gonna hand that to you. All right? No problem. No problem. As usual, Pastor. Okay, the mic the floor is yours. [0:09:05, 0:09:25]: First of all, I want to uh thank Mayor Ford and this council for uh recognizing again our National Day of Prayer on the first Thursday in the month of May for 2025. We had an awesome time here on the steps of City Hall just last week, and we had all of our faith leaders present with us and we came together in unity to just say a prayer over the city. [0:09:25, 0:09:45]: Over the citizens, over the constituents, and over all the things that are important to our livelihood, our the way we strive together, work together, live together, play together. And faith is an important issue with us. It is the fabric that holds this community together. And I'm grateful that we're able to stand together and represent our unity in the National Day of Prayer once again on May. [0:09:45, 0:09:46]: Two thousand twenty five. Thank you again. [0:09:48, 0:09:51]: Uh we th we can push everything out? [0:09:52, 0:10:01]: And and uh I don't know if any other uh preachers are all or clergy here. Okay, okay, so we'll we'll we'll we'll go ahead and take the preaching here. [0:10:07, 0:10:10]: I do sir. Okay. [0:10:11, 0:10:11]: Look at it. [0:10:13, 0:10:19]: Okay, we have uh another proclamation of public service recognition week. [0:10:20, 0:10:28]: All right, so is okay. Rest of our employees here coming on up. Any other employees? [0:10:32, 0:10:33]: All right. [0:10:35, 0:10:36]: All right. [0:10:37, 0:10:57]: Public Service Recognition Week. Whereas in honor of the millions of public employees, Public Service Recognition Week will be observed May 4th to 10th, 2025. Whereas the Public Service Recognition Week is organized annually by the Public Employees Roundtable and its member of the organizations to honor the men and women who serve our nation as federal, state, county, and local. [0:10:57, 0:11:17]: Local government employees. Whereas many public servants serve the American people every day doing a work that keeps the community moving forward. Whereas public servants include military personnel, police officers, firefighters, sheriffs, health care professionals, and others. Whereas civil servants carry out the most fundamental purpose of the government to ensure public safety and represent [0:11:17, 0:11:31]: the public interest in addressing solid economic and political challenges. Whereas without public service at every level continually would be impossible in a democracy that regularly changes its leaders and elected officials. And therefore I Anthony Sforbe [0:11:31, 0:11:41]: Anthony S4 by virtual authority investing in me as the mayor of city of Starbucks, Georgia. And on behalf of City Council members Elton, Alexander Alana, Barber, Kyle, Berry, Nakis Gandhi, Fonzo Thomas, do proclaim [0:11:42, 0:11:58]: May 4th to 10th, 2025 is Public Service Recognition Week in the Great City of Stockbridge, Georgia. All citizens are encouraged to recognize the contributions of government employees at all levels, federal, state, county, and city. A witness thereof, I have hereunto set my hand in the great seal city of Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:11:58, 0:12:16]: On the fourteenth day of April, year of our Lord, uh two thousand and twenty five. Now sign this along with uh the Clerk Vanessa holiday, which is a publishing year as well. I'm gonna give it up to you. That's only one and a half. So since I handed that to you, you you have any comments? [0:12:18, 0:12:27]: Just enjoy working for the city of Stockbridge. I've lived here for like uh s since two thousand seven. So it's been great working for the city of Stockbridge. Looking forward to many more years. So thank you. [0:12:28, 0:12:32]: Anybody anybody else? Express it? Okay, go ahead. [0:12:33, 0:12:51]: Well, good evening, everyone. I am the public information officer for the great city of Stockbridge. And I know I say on behalf of all of our teammates, some present with us and some now, we do certainly embody the true essence of being a team. And we love Stockbridge because Mayor Forrest, Stockbridge is where Thank you. [0:12:52, 0:12:57]: All right. So we said come on come on down this way. [0:12:58, 0:13:02]: Okay. Do you want to come over for a picture? [0:13:03, 0:13:08]: Come on. You can go back to that. Come on over here. [0:13:08, 0:13:09]: It gets right. [0:13:09, 0:13:19]: You're gonna be famous. On that on that side. It's where you get the recognition for public [0:13:19, 0:13:26]: Service recognition. Well Lloyd, will you ask Ms. Rawls if it's uh thank you? [0:13:33, 0:13:39]: See Raven too. Raven. Raven. Raven. [0:13:40, 0:13:42]: Ha ha ha. [0:13:44, 0:13:54]: All right. Alright, well this we're gonna take. Well what Robin [0:13:55, 0:13:57]: Public term. [0:13:58, 0:14:00]: Mm-hmm. So we're just saying for July. [0:14:00, 0:14:08]: Oh we can talk about it. [0:14:09, 0:14:15]: Do you mind? Deep sap. Yes. [0:14:18, 0:14:20]: Do we have do you have a solid when you get closer with that? [0:14:23, 0:14:26]: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. [0:14:28, 0:14:31]: Uh Ms. Halley, you and your team may stay up here. [0:14:32, 0:14:36]: This next proclamation deals with the municipal clerks week, right? [0:14:37, 0:14:57]: So, City of Stopper is recognized a 56th Annual Professional Municipal Clerks Week, whereas the Office of Professional Municipal Clerk is a time-honored and virtual part virtual vital part of our local government that exists throughout the world. Whereas the Office of Professional Municipal Clerk is the oldest among public servants, and whereas the Office of Professional Municipal Clerk provides a professional link between the [0:14:57, 0:15:17]: citizens, local government bodies, and agencies of government at other levels. And whereas professional municipal clerks have pledged to be ever mindful of their neutrality, partiality, rendering equal service to all. Whereas a professional municipal clerk serves as an informational center on functions of the local government and community. Whereas professional municipal [0:15:17, 0:15:28]: Clerks continually strive to improve the administration and all affairs of the Office of Professional Municipal Clerk through participation in educational programs, seminars, workshops, and annual meeting of their state. [0:15:29, 0:15:34]: provisional uh uh yeah provisional county and international professional organizations. [0:15:35, 0:15:53]: Whereas in in most appropriate that we recognize the accomplishments of the office of the off a professional municipal clerk. And therefore I, Anthony's forward, by virtual authority, investing me, Samor City of Stockbridge, Georgia, and on behalf of City Council members Elton Alexander, Ilana Barber, Cowberry, Nikisha Gandhi and Fonso Thomas do hereby recognize the week of May 14th to May 10th. [0:15:53, 0:16:13]: twenty twenty five is Professional Municipal Clerks Week and further extend appreciation to our professional municipal clerk and to all professional municipal clerks for the vital services they perform and explanatory exponential dedication and communities they represent. In wit yeah, in a witness thereof I have intercept my hand in the Great Seal City Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:16:13, 0:16:22]: On the 12th day of May of a Euro Lord 2025. And I signed this along with Vanessa, who's gonna get this as well. Thank you. An applause. [0:16:23, 0:16:28]: Okay. And the same results. Or go ahead. [0:16:28, 0:16:41]: So I am honored to serve as the city clerk for the city of Stockbridge. I am also honored to serve as the twenty twenty four-twenty twenty five municipal clerk of the year. It has been a [0:16:45, 0:16:56]: It has been a wonderful experience for me. When we go to June we will be selecting a new Clerk of the Year. But I can tell you this last year has been amazing. I have an amazing team. [0:16:56, 0:17:14]: And Cassandra and Shari, who's not able to be with us this evening, but when I tell you I have a dedicated team in them to help me to get these things done and the City of Stockbridge staff also does an amazing job. We do this collectively and I'm just so appreciative. Thank you very much. [0:17:15, 0:17:18]: [1050.0, 1052.1]: Fantastic. Congratulations, ladies. [0:17:32, 0:17:41]: You we have two of them. Yeah, we can we can do that. She's the one who produces them, so you can do it. Right. [0:17:41, 0:17:49]: Uh mental health awareness month is the recognition that I don't know if we have any mental health uh individuals that are here that represent the [0:17:50, 0:17:51]: You have not okay. [0:17:51, 0:17:52]: So [0:17:52, 0:18:12]: Whereas an area of someone lives, it plays a significant role in their overall health and well-being, whereas surroundings can impact if, how, and when a person's needs are met, which is turned affects the mental health. Whereas having safe, stable, and healthy home conditions set the foundation for achieving and maintaining good mental health. Whereas the early and effective interventions of those [0:18:12, 0:18:32]: Individuals with mental health conditions can recover and lead full productive lives. Whereas each business, school, government, agency, health care provider, organization, and citizen shares the burden of mental health problems and has a responsibility to promote mental wellness and support prevention efforts. Now therefore, I Anthony Sforbe Virginia Authority Invest in Me as American Stockbridge Georgian. [0:18:32, 0:18:35]: And on behalf of city council members out in Alexander, [0:18:35, 0:18:39]: Lana Barber Cowberry, Lakesa Gand, and Alfonso Thomas do hereby proclaim [0:18:39, 0:18:42]: May twenty twenty five was mental health awareness month. [0:18:42, 0:19:02]: And call upon the citizens, government agencies, public and private institutions, businesses and schools and starbids to recommit our community and increasing awareness and understanding of mental health and steps our citizens can take to protect their mental health and the need for appropriate and accessible services for all people with mental health conditions. And witness whereof thereof, excuse me. [0:19:02, 0:19:11]: have here undo Sem Mahand, the Great Seal City Stockbridge, Georgia, and on the twelfth day of May, year of our Lord, two thousand and twenty five, and I signed a proclamation along with our Claire Finessa holiday. [0:19:11, 0:19:19]: Okay. And I'm going to use this to you because you don't have to know when it comes. Okay. [0:19:22, 0:19:42]: Certainly mental health is extremely important and we know that uh especially um in law enforcement we have uh employed a mental health professional to make sure that we're compassionate and serve and be able to offer alternatives to putting uh people to end mental distress. [0:19:42, 0:20:02]: In a in jail. That's not the solution. The solution is to be able to work with them and to cut do 21st century cutting-edge intervention to be able to help those in need and provide those resources here in the community. It was a proud thing to be able to bring this. [0:20:01, 0:20:17]: uh to the council uh in the past to make sure that we did this and recognize this and we wholeheartedly support it in every phase because we know how important it is to this day and time to speak out and to be heard that mental health matters. Thank you. [0:20:28, 0:20:31]: [1232.2, 1252.2]: And this is our last proclamation for this ceremonial um part of our uh council meeting. This deals with Mother's Day. I have one just one here, but I will tell you what. I'd like to invite I'd like to invite all your mothers. I only have one, but I want you all your mothers, if if you're a mother, come on up. Come on up. Mother just recognized Mother's Day. Come on. [0:20:52, 0:20:54]: All your mothers come on up here. [0:20:55, 0:20:56]: Are you about? [0:20:57, 0:20:58]: Oh my god. [0:21:02, 0:21:04]: Oh thank you. [0:21:06, 0:21:07]: Thank you. [0:21:07, 0:21:09]: Come on, ladies. [0:21:15, 0:21:35]: All right. Okay. Proclamation, City Star Brace and recognition of Mother's Day 2025. Whereas Mother's Day in the United States is cherished annual tradition celebrating mothers, motherhood, and the fluence of uh maternal figures in society. [0:21:35, 0:21:55]: From heartfelt cards and flowers to special meals and family gatherings, the day is widely observed, opportunity to honor the love, dedication, sacrifices made by mothers across the nation. Whereas in 1914, President Wildrow Wilson signed a proclamation officially establishing the second Sunday of May as Mother's Day. Since then, it has become one of the most popular holidays in the U.S. [0:21:54, 0:22:14]: Celebrated by families of all backgrounds and traditions. Whereas Mother Day is a national observance established to express love, gratitude, appreciation for mothers and mother figures. Whereas Mother's Day is primarily associated with biological mothers, it also recognizes grandmothers, stepmothers, adopted mothers, guardians, and all women who play a nurturing role in the lives of others. [0:22:14, 0:22:34]: Whereas the state serves as a spotlight issues facing mothers today from the maternal health and parental leave to mental wellness, work-life balance, and also has an opportunity to support mother-led businesses, charities, and community groups. Now, therefore, I Anthony Sforbe of Virtual Authority Vestamias and Mayor City Great City of Stockbridge, Georgia. On behalf of the City Council and [0:22:34, 0:22:38]: members of Nala Sandy Lona, Barber Kyle, Berry, the Keys again, Afonso Thomas. [0:22:38, 0:22:47]: Do hereby proclaim Mother's Day is a great day in the Stockbridge, Georgia. More than a holiday is a reflection of profound influence mothers have on our lives in our society. [0:22:47, 0:23:07]: The witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand in great CLC Stockbridge, Georgia. Twelfth day of May, year of our Lord, 2025. And I sign a proclamation along with our cleric finesse holiday. She's right here, but I'm not going to be I'll tell you, I'll tell you what. There you go. All right. I'm sorry, ladies, I got one for you what we got. [0:23:07, 0:23:11]: Yeah be careful. But uh mean if you had the food? [0:23:11, 0:23:14]: Oh yeah. [0:23:15, 0:23:35]: Okay, I'll tell you what. I mean, do you mothers want to say anything at all? I mean anybody. You look like you want to speak. Come on. I'm gonna select you. You look like you want to speak. Okay. So being a mother. [0:23:34, 0:23:38]: is not easy. That's right. They don't come with instructions. [0:23:39, 0:23:41]: And s we just do the best we can and I'm [0:23:42, 0:23:47]: This was an unexpected surprise when I got here today. So on behalf of all the mothers, thank you. [0:23:48, 0:23:49]: Mm-hmm. [0:23:51, 0:23:58]: Uh yeah, come on. Yeah, we've got slide that we have to double up, triple up, would come on down if we're big photographs. Okay. [0:23:59, 0:24:09]: Come on the lazy some of the ladies have to come up front over here as well. Come on. Come on up. I think we can do this. [0:24:10, 0:24:13]: Come on, we must follow. [0:24:14, 0:24:15]: Yeah. [0:24:20, 0:24:21]: Smile there, but [0:24:29, 0:24:31]: Thank you, ladies. Thank you. [0:24:33, 0:24:35]: Yes. [0:24:35, 0:24:40]: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm not like that. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. [0:24:40, 0:24:42]: All right, so [0:24:43, 0:24:51]: Ladies and gentlemen, I got six o'clock. Give us a few minutes before we start a meeting. We do have a we do have a quorum, but we'll give a few minutes before we start the meeting, okay? Let's see here. [0:28:43, 0:28:46]: We'll start the meeting here shortly, ladies and gentlemen. Stand by. [0:29:12, 0:29:13]: Okay. [0:29:15, 0:29:16]: Turn the microphone on. [0:29:44, 0:29:46]: That's all I think. [0:30:16, 0:30:36]: Let us bow our heads and let us pray. Eternal God, our Father, we thank you tonight. We thank you, Lord, for the city of Stockbridge, its citizens, Lord God, its constituents. We thank you, God, for our elected officials. We thank you for those who are gathered together in this meeting today. Lord God, we pray again that you would continue to order our footsteps in your word, that you would lead us and guide us the way that you would want us to go. [0:30:36, 0:30:56]: Go. And Father God, we're careful to give your name all of the glory, the honor, and the praise. We will look up into the hills from which cometh our help, knowing that all of our help comes from you. Then, Lord God, we're careful again to thank you in advance and give your name the glory again. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. Okay. [0:30:56, 0:31:07]: Pledge allegiance through the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic with which it stands one nation, my God, indivisible, with liberty and [0:31:08, 0:31:10]: Madam Clerk, roll call, please. [0:31:12, 0:31:18]: Yes, good evening everyone. Mayor Ford. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Present. [0:31:20, 0:31:30]: Let the record reflect Council Member Thomas is not in attendance. Council Member Berry. Present. Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. Present. Mayor Ford [0:31:30, 0:31:34]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Mayor Potem Gantt. Um [0:31:35, 0:31:50]: I need a few amendments to the agenda, please. Yes, Mayor. Um I like a motion to defer public hearing item number two, special use permit, case number SP twenty twenty-four-zero three for thirty days at the applicant's request. [0:31:51, 0:31:53]: Second. Mr. Bayer, second at all in favor, please indicate. [0:31:55, 0:31:55]: Mayor Ford. [0:31:56, 0:32:16]: Uh stand by w uh stand by. Um mister Henry vote, but I have a question. Stand by a second please. Uh stand by. Uh all favor, please indicate. Okay. Three votes for? Yes. Go ahead, please. I'll I've got you. You do you you wanna comment? You can defer your vote or no, I'm I'm I'm I'm for the You're for it, okay. For good motion passed. [0:32:16, 0:32:22]: Three, your your what's your your vote here? I said I have a question. [0:32:23, 0:32:26]: Considering this is an item in my district. [0:32:26, 0:32:39]: I've asked multiple times that I be notified prior to the meetings when there are any amendments to the agenda. Okay. So I'm asking going forward respectfully. [0:32:39, 0:32:41]: Whenever anything. [0:32:41, 0:32:44]: On the agenda pertains to city council district four. [0:32:45, 0:32:46]: That I be notified. [0:32:46, 0:32:48]: Prior to [0:32:48, 0:33:08]: The council meeting. Well, it's my understanding I will vote to approve deferring this item. Oh, I appreciate it. Thank you, sir. But it's names vote, appreciate it. Okay. Madam uh Mr. Gantt, please. Um share mayor. Mo um I would like to also make a motion to defer item number seven, FY 2024, budget amendment ordinance to the May. [0:33:08, 0:33:14]: eight twenty seventh twenty twenty five work session meeting at the Cissure Treasure City Treasurer's request. [0:33:14, 0:33:15]: So second a motion. [0:33:16, 0:33:18]: So uh Mr. Alexander second offer, please indicate. [0:33:19, 0:33:24]: Unanimous decision on that. Appreciate it. All right, once again, uh Miss uh Kent. [0:33:24, 0:33:32]: And I would like to mo I would like to make a motion to amend the agenda to add item number eight, which would be a soccer association project. [0:33:33, 0:33:34]: So second that motion. [0:33:34, 0:33:36]: Sir. Sir. All in favor, please indicate. [0:33:37, 0:33:52]: So you now have a decision there as well. Thank you very much. Council, now I need a motion to adopt the rest of the agenda, please. So moved. Is there a second? Second. Do we got to add that item, remember? I'm sorry? You did already? I did. Okay, yeah, so number eight. The last one was coming. Okay. All right, second. [0:33:52, 0:34:12]: Okay, so from Miss uh Ms. Gantt and Miss Alzheimer in our favor, please indicate. Snaps decision on that one. Okay, fantastic. This will be supper. Told you no. All righty. Okay. On that note, uh, ladies and gentlemen, we had a ceremonial review earlier, and uh we recognize [0:34:12, 0:34:32]: recognize calls proclamation for for Mother's Day. So happy Mother's Day to all you uh ladies out here and hopefully you had a great celebration this past weekend. And of course Mother's Day is probably every day in this country as well, right? National Public Works Week for a public uh knowledge in our public works department and all the public works uh individuals uh [0:34:32, 0:34:52]: [2092.6, 2112.6]: Because we the taxpayers are footing the bill. Per stop bridge ordinance under finance in chapter three under competitive sealed bill, it states any commodity that is expected to cost or generate revenue greater than$50,000 shall be acquired through the competitive sealed bid process, except as otherwise provided in this. [0:35:12, 0:35:32]: Chapter. That's why I'll be requesting the RFP for all vendors and the naming rights for the Stockbridge Amphitheater. Some vendors are registered with Georgia Corporation Division Division, some are dissolved with the GCD, and other businesses I just can't find. What scale was used to hire these vendors if there is no consistency? [0:35:32, 0:35:52]: With a GCD registration. This is a brand new$22 million facility. Why would we not triple check to see if all these businesses companies are registered with the Georgia Corporation Division? This only keeps that vendor safe and the amphitheater protected from any unforeseen lawsuit due to a vendor's error or amphitheater error. [0:35:52, 0:36:12]: With that being said, I have more questions about the vendors list. What is production and concerts? I can't find this company anywhere. We pay production and concerts$521,448.75. What is Ale Parks? I can't find this business anywhere. When I look up parking for the amphitheater, [0:36:12, 0:36:32]: There are three categories prepaid, ride share, and free parking. What exactly are we paying L parks for? We paid them sixty-three thousand one hundred and thirty six dollars. Again, I've requested all this with open records, the contracts between the vendors and the amphitheater along with the RFP for those specific job titles. Houston Transportation Productions. [0:36:32, 0:36:50]: Solution, which is another company in making. What and who are they transporting? We paid them$99,259. Casper Atlanta, which is described as an usher service, I can't find them as well. We paid an usher service$73,519.74. [0:36:52, 0:37:12]: Anthony Starling was paid thirty eight thousand four hundred seventy five dollars to stage chairs, clean the kitchen and pressure washing. mister Starling was paid three thousand two hundred fifty dollars on one event to stage chairs, fifty five hundred dollars another occasion to stage chairs, four thousand another event to stage chairs, and another thirty two fifty dollars another occasion to stage chairs. [0:37:12, 0:37:19]: What chairs is he staging? I tell you this whenever the staging chairs render becomes available, I'll be applying for that. [0:37:21, 0:37:23]: You wanna ask the committee for more time? [0:37:23, 0:37:25]: It's a time. I can ask. Any more time? [0:37:27, 0:37:29]: Okay. [0:37:29, 0:37:32]: [2252.8, 2266.7]: Uh the ho ho he's has his three minute hold on. No I can't. Hold hold on, hold on. Sir y you watch yourself. Thank you. Thank you. Uh who's next? [0:37:50, 0:37:51]: Mayor. [0:37:53, 0:37:59]: Gladys Williams. Oh uh don't r don't relax for a second, please. [0:38:05, 0:38:25]: Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Gladys Williams Tillman, 3351 Windermere Street, Columbus, Georgia. I am here today to speak on behalf of Harold Young with the amphitheater. I've known Harold for many, many years. He and his family. He is a man of integrity, a man of [0:38:24, 0:38:31]: [2311.6, 2315.2]: In the field that I've been in for several years. [0:38:35, 0:38:55]: He knows what he's doing. I stand behind him 100%. If not, I would not bring the money from AFLAC to the amphitheater. Harold is a man of integrity, a man that believes in doing right to the people. And I stand by him 5 million. [0:38:55, 0:38:57]: Thank you. [0:39:05, 0:39:08]: Charlie and Mary Cook. [0:39:12, 0:39:13]: Charlie Mary Cook. [0:39:14, 0:39:16]: So yeah. Okay. [0:39:25, 0:39:26]: Name and address, please. [0:39:26, 0:39:29]: Charlie Cook, two four nine Hillendale Drive. [0:39:29, 0:39:30]: Thank you. [0:39:31, 0:39:51]: Don't have anything to say about the amphitheater. Sounds like a lot of people do. But I'm more concerned about the future of our city. I would hope that we would all want the best for our city. But I've been here for 30 years, and since we joined the city, it was without city limits. I the only thing I've really been happy [0:39:51, 0:39:56]: happy about is the the good fee on the garbage. Um I feel like when I came here before [0:39:57, 0:40:01]: Every city council member except for council member for my district, district four. [0:40:02, 0:40:06]: Said yes to a development in the middle of all these homes. [0:40:06, 0:40:09]: And now there's a development proposed on forty two. [0:40:10, 0:40:15]: Sounds like it was voted down at the commission here at the planning thing. Excuse me. [0:40:16, 0:40:25]: On the seventeenth, but I'm concerned about the way this is going. I would like to know how many developments have been approved in the last three years. [0:40:25, 0:40:26]: How many developers? [0:40:27, 0:40:37]: Is the Battle R firm the only person representing them? And why are they the only one? Why are there no real estate lawyers not in Tucker, but in Stockbridge? [0:40:37, 0:40:54]: or in Henry County. I'd also like to know what the percentage owner oc occupancy of is of all these developments. I mean I know one of the council members said, Well people are moving here, we need to have places for them to go. Well that's fine. But if you don't bill it, they won't come. [0:40:54, 0:41:01]: And I'm been here thirty years and I see all these three hundred thousand dollar townhomes going in. [0:41:01, 0:41:10]: Who in their right mind would want to buy a three hundred thousand dollar town home next to the gun range, next to Walmart, next to the railroad track on uh [0:41:11, 0:41:26]: East Atlanta. I really don't get it. And that's not gonna help my property value. And you know, great for the developers, they're gonna make some money, but how much is enough? You know, if they make nine homes on that nine acres over on forty two, three hundred thousand dollars each is great. [0:41:27, 0:41:44]: Why are they trying to squeeze 90 homes in that same amount of area? That's what I don't understand. And I just wish the city council would be more responsive and have a better plan for what we're doing. We're not gonna be Peachtree City. I understand that. We're not gonna be Eagles Landing. [0:41:44, 0:42:04]: That's too far gone. But can't we have some control on the way things are being developed? And it doesn't appear to me that they are. When they're all these three hundred thousand dollar townhomes, there's no way anybody's gonna live in there forever. It's gonna turn into a renter and they aren't gonna care and they aren't gonna have the long term future of Stockbridge. They're just gonna [0:42:04, 0:42:05]: gonna be transient. [0:42:10, 0:42:13]: I think that's about all I want to say. Thank you for your comments. We'll get back to you. [0:42:21, 0:42:24]: Donnie Hogan or Donnie Hogan? [0:42:34, 0:42:35]: Name and address, please. [0:42:36, 0:42:39]: Donnie Hogan, thirty six forty Eisenhower Parkway. [0:42:40, 0:42:47]: I am Donnie Hogan of Alexander Ballroom, the first vendor that was called out on your last meeting. [0:42:48, 0:42:58]: What the young man did not I wanna clear something up. Um he was correct when he said my LLC was dissolved. [0:42:59, 0:43:10]: But I don't need an LLC to run my business as long as I have my catering license, my insurance. [0:43:10, 0:43:15]: And my uh one hundred health rating, which I consistently get. [0:43:16, 0:43:29]: But I went ahead and updated my LLC because that's what Stockbridge required. If it's required, I do it. But it was not required at the time. [0:43:30, 0:43:46]: So if th the young man would have did a little bit more uh research or however he came to call me out, it's it's a lot of work doing food for that amount of people. I don't get up. [0:43:47, 0:43:54]: at twelve or one o'clock. I get up at four AM to make sure that the artists are taken care of. [0:43:55, 0:44:05]: And that we have no accidents or anybody getting sick with the fool. To me that's what's important. Uh L L C is not going to [0:44:05, 0:44:07]: help anybody that gets food poisoned. [0:44:08, 0:44:13]: You want somebody that's in there that knows what they're doing and knows what temperature. [0:44:14, 0:44:18]: That the food has to be because if one of those artists get sick. [0:44:19, 0:44:21]: You're talking about millions of dollars. [0:44:21, 0:44:22]: Lastly. [0:44:24, 0:44:25]: So [0:44:25, 0:44:32]: I have all my credentials, and if any time anybody wanna see them, please come see me. [0:44:32, 0:44:33]: Thank you. Thank you. [0:44:43, 0:44:45]: Janice Crowell. [0:44:46, 0:44:47]: Tennessee, okay. [0:44:55, 0:44:56]: Name and address, please. [0:44:57, 0:45:06]: Janice Crowell, 128 Prestige Drive, Runner Robins, Georgia. And I'm here on the state of business as well from the Alazana Ballroom being called out. [0:45:06, 0:45:13]: Um last week at the council meeting and also here on the behalf of Harry Young and his family as well. [0:45:13, 0:45:15]: А на лайк чи. [0:45:15, 0:45:16]: Um [0:45:16, 0:45:36]: Donna Hogan with Ellis in the Ballroom is very, very cautious about the people. She treats everyone on the level of where they must be protected. It's about the food, and it's just it's not just about you coming here. We're coming to stop breach. And the people that are the artists that are coming, they come to stop breach. [0:45:36, 0:45:56]: Stockbridge. And I also want to say this, when we come being from Macon in one robins, the people there, we would love to have Harold Young there at the theater there, at the Epic Theater there, because what's happening in Stockbridge, I'm a little jealous. Because what I hear, the rays of the people that are coming, they wanna come down here to Stockbridge to get the food. [0:45:56, 0:46:16]: To get the r respect that all the staff, the staff that Harold has together. It's about bringing a team together that's gonna do the process. And the process that has been done here in in at the amphitheater is nothing but a hundred plus. So I thank God for being able to be here and to see what's happening, because I really would love to see. [0:46:16, 0:46:19]: Thank you. [0:46:32, 0:46:42]: Okay. Sammy and I'm sorry I cannot make out the last name, starts with an M. Sammy. Come on up, sir. Name and address, please. [0:46:45, 0:46:49]: Sammy Murfrey, thirty four eleven Pierce Drive, Atlanta, Georgia. [0:46:51, 0:47:11]: Um, I'm here to speak on behalf of Harold Young. Um a lot of people don't necessarily know him, but for the most part, I like to say that he is a very stand-up person. I've known him about four years. I've been here at the amphitheater for four years. Um I am over the security and I also bridge a lot of the departments um here at the amphitheater. [0:47:11, 0:47:18]: Harrow has assembled what I would call an all star team of contractors and people that put their talents. [0:47:18, 0:47:38]: Um for the city of Stockbridge, week in and week out when we have shows. And for the most part, Stockbridge Amphitheater is an award-winning amphitheater. So you also have to keep that in mind that a person who is a visionary, a person who has a reputation, resources, he has know-how. [0:47:38, 0:47:47]: You can't judge somebody off of what they have in their heart. And he put his heart into it every week. I see it. I see it from the cause that he put into me. [0:47:48, 0:47:58]: He put a group message for everyone together so that way collectively he can share experiences and concerns so that way we're all on the same page. So [0:47:58, 0:47:59]: Stark Bridge. [0:48:00, 0:48:02]: is a championship facility. [0:48:03, 0:48:06]: It's a facility that the people know it, the city of Atlanta knew it. [0:48:07, 0:48:09]: It has put this city on the map. [0:48:09, 0:48:26]: with not only the high profile talent that comes here, but it also creates the exposure for a stock bridge. So a lot of people may not be aware of the ins and outs, the nuts and bolts of how to make an amphitheater work. You only can do it if you qualify. [0:48:26, 0:48:31]: And the leadership of Stockbridge put the most qualified person in place. [0:48:31, 0:48:35]: And he has now been doing it for a third consecutive year. [0:48:35, 0:48:40]: And he's put it together a year that still will get all of the attention of the city. [0:48:41, 0:48:42]: In the southeast United States. [0:48:44, 0:48:52]: So for everything that needs to be said, it can always be said in the open forum, but he should have a chance to speak on any matter for anybody's concern. [0:48:53, 0:48:59]: When it comes up pertaining to the business and the operation of the amphitheater, he can answer anybody, anything at any time. [0:49:00, 0:49:05]: His name shouldn't be slander when you can ask him a question and he can reasonably answer it. [0:49:05, 0:49:07]: His team is here to support him. [0:49:08, 0:49:09]: And at the end of the day. [0:49:10, 0:49:24]: We're all gonna stand for him and stand behind him because I believe in his leadership. I believe in his ability to get the job done, and he's done a phenomenal job. And that's all that's expected from a man of his character and his background. That's my time. Thank you. [0:49:29, 0:49:30]: Mr. Harold Young. [0:49:37, 0:49:57]: Name and address, Harold. Harold Young, 409, Old Mills Court, Macon, Georgia, 31210. First of all, thank you, Counsel and Mayor, for allowing me to be the independent contractor for the Stockbridge Amphitheater. [0:49:57, 0:50:11]: independent contractor when my contract was signed uh years ago, now the fourth year that I've been with you all. I've been with you all from day one. My responsibility is to hire my staff. [0:50:11, 0:50:15]: My contract does not state where they come from. [0:50:15, 0:50:17]: Де до ней се зір the staff. [0:50:17, 0:50:22]: Hire the my my contract states book the talent my contract states [0:50:23, 0:50:23]: Um [0:50:24, 0:50:44]: Sell sponsorships, my contract state signs says naming rights. All of those things are followed upon as a general contractor at for the Stockbridge Amphitheater. I've been with you all, like I said, from day one. Um my staff is here. I didn't ask them, they're not staged. I didn't ask them to come. [0:50:44, 0:50:53]: They decided to come on their own and speak on my behalf. I'm honored and I'm blessed for that. I've been in the entertainment industry for 30 plus years. [0:50:54, 0:50:57]: And my name has not ever been slandered. [0:50:58, 0:51:02]: And I had to get an attorney because of the misinformation that was given. [0:51:02, 0:51:04]: If it's podium. [0:51:04, 0:51:22]: I have never asked any citizen for 30 for a dime on open records request. I do not set the price. I do not say anything. That is not my role to say charge a citizen 30, whatever that amount was. That's not my role. Number two is [0:51:24, 0:51:25]: Hey, calm down, please. [0:51:25, 0:51:28]: Hold on, hold on. [0:51:29, 0:51:29]: No. [0:51:30, 0:51:33]: I w I regain my time, sir. No c keep going, sir. Keep going. Keep going. [0:51:36, 0:51:55]: The Stockbridge Amphitheater, I travel around the United States going to different conferences about stock. When I mention the word Stock Bridge, first of all, me moving from Los Angeles, I never heard of the city Stockbridge. But when I travel going to different conferences, entertainment conferences, they're talking about Stockbridge. Artists are asking to come to Stockbridge. [0:51:55, 0:52:06]: are celebrities are asking to come to Stockbridge because of what you all have put here. You all decided to put this here. I didn't ask to build that. I was I was blessed to get the contract. [0:52:06, 0:52:09]: My staff are stand up people. [0:52:09, 0:52:14]: If if it if they forgot to renew their license, it's my fault because I hired them. [0:52:15, 0:52:28]: If they didn't renew their LLC, it's my fault. I'll take blame for that. I hired them. But when they were so but that wasn't required. I need people that can do the job, that can represent you all, the city of Stockbridge well. [0:52:29, 0:52:34]: I'm a man of God. I'm a family man. I'm a father, a parent, a grandparent. [0:52:35, 0:52:38]: And I stand before I was standing. I [0:52:39, 0:52:43]: Appreciate being a part of Stockbridge. Thank you all very much for your time. Thank you. [0:52:44, 0:52:50]: Okay. Mr. Robert Schul. Mr. Schul Schul? Okay. [0:52:55, 0:53:15]: Name's Robert Schuel. I'm at 253 Shields Road. I'm gonna change the subject. I've been in in front of y'all before. I did a petition to put speed humps on Shields. You guys came back and said you can't do it because of fire trucks. I've been there 13 years. The other day one went down the house. That was probably the tenth. [0:53:15, 0:53:20]: fire truck that went down Shields Road in thirteen years. [0:53:20, 0:53:21]: Okay. [0:53:22, 0:53:27]: If you guys can't do anything, the city of Stockbridge police can't do anything, who do we talk to? [0:53:27, 0:53:34]: How do we get the people to slow down? They're going through there at fifty, sixty miles an hour. There's a resident down the street who's got a charger. [0:53:35, 0:53:39]: And for some reason he thinks once he hits Alpha Davis he can just put the accelerator down. [0:53:40, 0:53:42]: Who do you talk to? [0:53:42, 0:53:47]: Public safety. You guys are in charge of public safety. The police are in charge of public safety. [0:53:48, 0:53:49]: Who do the residents go to now? [0:53:51, 0:53:52]: Something needs to be done. [0:53:54, 0:54:00]: They've got'em over there on North Davis. They've got three of'em on that little r curvy road. This is a straightaway. [0:54:00, 0:54:04]: They're racing down there. Please, please, look into this. [0:54:07, 0:54:09]: We have grandchildren, we have children. [0:54:09, 0:54:19]: Today there was a wild dog running around. I was up by the side of the road. I had to slow somebody down so they it was laying right by the side of the road. The guy kinda looked at me funny, then he saw what was going on. [0:54:20, 0:54:22]: I mean, somebody's gonna get hit. [0:54:23, 0:54:27]: We're talking about putting a uh home care center on that road. [0:54:28, 0:54:29]: That's gonna be an issue. [0:54:30, 0:54:36]: What if people wander off? There's a two acre pond across the street that me and my neighbor own. [0:54:37, 0:54:49]: You've heard in the news, people wandering off and you find them drowned in a pond. There's issues that aren't being addressed that I wish this council and the police department would get on it. [0:54:50, 0:54:58]: And do the job public safety. Thank you. Thank you. We'll look into that. No additional comments, Mayor. No additional comments. Okay. [0:55:00, 0:55:12]: Okay, uh council on the adoption of the minutes, uh adoption of the mo uh the April fourteenth, uh twenty twenty five council meeting minutes, uh April twenty first, twenty twenty five special call meeting minutes, and also April April twenty ninth. [0:55:12, 0:55:15]: Uh twenty twenty five work session minutes. Need a motion accepting, please. [0:55:16, 0:55:18]: So moved. Is there a second? [0:55:18, 0:55:18]: So good. [0:55:19, 0:55:21]: It's okay, Mr. Alexander, second ten. All in favor, please indicate. [0:55:22, 0:55:23]: Do you know decision there? [0:55:23, 0:55:26]: And up for a public hearing we uh [0:55:26, 0:55:32]: Special purpose permit. We deferred that for another thirty days. We'll go on to a comprehensive plan amendment. [0:55:33, 0:55:39]: K C P two zero oh back up. One second here. It's not about public hearing. One second here. [0:55:39, 0:55:50]: Public hearing. Please mute all cell phones, electronic devices. If anyone wishes to speak tonight on a public hearing item, please fill out the form available on the table and hand it to the city clerk before approaching the podium. [0:55:50, 0:56:05]: After each case is called, the council will hear from the city staff, followed by the applicant and representative regarding the proposed plans or property along with and any other relevant information. The council will be free to ask questions at any time before the vote. [0:56:05, 0:56:08]: Following the applicant, anyone who wishes to speak in favor [0:56:09, 0:56:29]: or opposed to the case will have an opportunity to do so. Each side will be allotted ten minutes total. Additional time may be extended at the discretion of the counsel. Please keep comments and presentation professional, referring only to the facts that are pertinent to the case. We will not allow comments or personal attacks toward any individual group. Please refrain from any applause, comments, or from [0:56:28, 0:56:44]: from the audience during the public hearing. After the presiding officer recognizes the speaker, he or she shall direct all comments to the presiding officer, never to the members of the council staff or audience. All comments will be made from the podium where you will be required to state your name and address for the record. [0:56:45, 0:57:05]: Please note that these hearings are not a debate. Failure to comply will cause you to be removed from the chamber and the building by law enforcement if you deviate from those proceedings. Other than the applicant, no person may speak more than once. The applicant may preserve part of his or her speaking time as rebuttal and may speak next and last and maybe [0:57:05, 0:57:09]: may use the entire TMS allowed for the pro side of the application. [0:57:09, 0:57:27]: If questions are raised, the council may ask the applicant to address questions and or concerns. The presiding officer will call for the motion and a second to the motion and have any another uh have any necessary discussion. If the matter is not tabled, the presiding officer will call for a vote and recommend approval or denial of the request. [0:57:29, 0:57:49]: Now in reference to that comprehensive plan amendment, case CP 2025-02 properties located in Council District 4. Consideration of a comprehensive plan amendment, parcel of 029-0101-1001, located between North Henry Boulevard and Old Atlanta Road. [0:57:49, 0:58:09]: South of Valley Hill Road for the purpose of changing the property future land use designation from low density mix use to high density mixed use to allow for development of townhomes and office space. Apple and Clint is Templar Development Group, LLC, Agent Battle Law PC. Properties located in the landlot 90 of District. [0:58:09, 0:58:19]: And it contains nine point nine zero plus more plus or minus acres presented by um Mr. Ryan Anderson. [0:58:20, 0:58:40]: And uh I need to go through rezoning piece as well. Rezoning case RZ-2025, excuse me, two zero two five-zero three. Once again, property located in town council district four. Consideration rezoning on the parcel zero two nine-one, zero one one zero zero one. [0:58:40, 0:59:00]: Located North Haney Boulevard and Old Orlanta Road, south of Valley Hill Road for the purpose of rezoning property from C3 Heavy Commercial to PMU parkway mixed use. Overlay districts PUD Plan Unit Development, Master Plan and PU Excuse me, PMU Parkway Mixed Use. Overlay districts allow for the development of townhouse. [0:59:00, 0:59:14]: homes and office space. Applicant is Templar Development Group LLC Agent Battle Law PC. Probably is located in land lot ninety of district twelve and contains nine point nine zero plus minus plus or minus acres. Once again Ms. Anderson, please [0:59:14, 0:59:22]: Good evening, Mayor. Um, just had a last-minute request from the applicant to table this item until the June 9th, 2025 City Council meeting. [0:59:22, 0:59:26]: Are you talking about both both I both the comprehensive? Both of them. Yes, sir. [0:59:26, 0:59:27]: Okay. [0:59:28, 0:59:36]: All right. Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I move based off the applicant's recommendation and request that we grant the continuance until June ninth. [0:59:37, 0:59:37]: Um [0:59:38, 0:59:39]: Council meeting. [0:59:39, 0:59:40]: So I second that motion. [0:59:41, 0:59:43]: All right, on fair please indicate. [0:59:44, 1:00:04]: Okay, it's an indict decision. Okay, so no not a public hearing then. So new business. Uh let's see here. Council of consideration to adopt an ordinance or authorizing the Henry County Elections Board to conduct elections. And the city may request the election board to reform any and all duties of the superintendent elections as specified. [1:00:04, 1:00:12]: In a chapter of Title 21 of the Official Code of Georgia, annotated with the exception of the qualification of candidates. Miss Holliday, please. [1:00:19, 1:00:39]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. So the clerks office received notice from the Henry County Elections Office notifying all Henry County Municipal Clerks that the Board of Elections recently passed a motion to update the intergovernmental agreements between the Henry County Board of Elections and Voter Registrations and the municipalities. We have an SDS agreement with [1:00:39, 1:00:59]: Where Henry County is the one who does our elections for us, we only do the qualifying. So, in accordance with the recommended guidelines, the board requests that the city of Stockbridge execute the proposed intergovernmental agreement, which outlines the responsibilities of the city as well as those of the board and submit. [1:00:59, 1:01:19]: the signed agreement back to the county elections office no later than May 30th, 2025. The process is that we have to amend our ordinance and show again with this new agreement that it's effective after May 30th and also do a resolution for the intergovernmental agreement. [1:01:20, 1:01:23]: Okay. Thank you for that. Council, any questions? [1:01:25, 1:01:45]: All right, thank you. Um we need we need to vote on this, I would imagine. Yes, yes. Okay, all right. Okay, go ahead, please. Mayor, I move that we approve and we adopt an ordinance author authorizing the Henry County Elections Board to conduct elections, and the city um may request the elections board to perform any or all duties. [1:01:45, 1:02:05]: Duties of a superintendent of election as specified under chapter of title twenty-one of the official code of Georgia annotated, with the exception of the qualification of candidates. Sir second? Mayor, I second. Mayor, okay, Mayor, I mean uh Mr. Berry, if a second now, all fair please indicate Shenancy season. Thank you very much. Okay. [1:02:06, 1:02:19]: Mayor. Yes, ma'am. I move that council consider and approve an intergovernment agreement between Henry County, Georgia and the Henry County Elections Board of Elections and Registration in the City of Stockbridge, Georgia relating to municipal election services. [1:02:20, 1:02:26]: Yeah second. Okay. All right. [1:02:32, 1:02:52]: So otherwise you I I didn't read that one. Oh, I'm sorry, but that was agenda item number five. Six. Six. I'm sorry, Mayor. I she had presented them both at the same time, so I was just let me just read it anyway, right? Okay. Council consideration approved the intergovernmental IGA between Henry County, Georgia and Henry County Elections Board uh Board of Elections. [1:02:52, 1:03:12]: Elections and registration city of Stockbridge, uh Georgia relating to municipal election services. And Miss Holiday presented already and was already passed and approved unanimously. Okay, so next would be dealing with the um Southern Uh Soccer Association project. Uh and I believe that uh Mr. Sanders will be coming forward to present this particular [1:03:12, 1:03:12]: [3800.0, 3820.0]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Good evening. I'm here before you this evening to discuss the proposed soccer project, which is located off of Village Business Parkway. Uh it's District 5, and that's just off of Eagles Landing Parkway. I'm joined by Mr. Eric Morrison this evening, who is the president of the Southern Crescent Soccer Association, and I'm going to ask him to come up and join us. [1:03:40, 1:04:00]: Join me as we present. What we are looking to do this evening is to get your buy-in for this project, number one, and number two. He is we have forged a partnership. Um, and so there are several grants that he has applied for that will help defray the cost of two fields that are being proposed for this. [1:03:59, 1:04:19]: particular site. And what I'd like to do is allow him the opportunity to take a few minutes and share with you who he is, what the soccer association is all about, and to talk about this grant and some of the things that he's asking the council allow uh um uh uh allow approve for him as he goes forward with this application so Mr. Morrison [1:04:21, 1:04:28]: Thank you, Ms. Sanders. Um name and address please. Uh Eric Morrison, seven thirty seven, Campground Road, McDonough. [1:04:28, 1:04:48]: Thank you. Thank you, sir. Go ahead, please. Um Council Mayor, thank you for giving me the opportunity to talk to you about this today. Um, really quickly, briefly, about who the Southern Crescent Soccer Foundation is and and what I do. Um I'm personally I'm the president of the Southern Crescent Soccer Foundation, which was established in 2018. I'm a retired Army Lieutenant Colonel. I hold an [1:04:48, 1:04:53]: MBA from Mercer University and I'm I'm in a volunteer role. This is um [1:04:53, 1:04:57]: a non-paid position that I do just because I actually thoroughly enjoy doing it. [1:04:57, 1:05:17]: Um the mission of Southern Crescent Soccer Foundation is really about changing the lives of kids. You know, we provide a medium through soccer in order to give positive outcomes for children. We were established in 2018. It really just started with an idea from an individual. I don't know if you ever heard of the organization Soccer in the Streets in Atlanta. They're a very large soccer organization. [1:05:17, 1:05:37]: Does a great bit of charitable work. One of their former officers had approached me about doing something similar in Henry County. I was excited with it. You know, we that conversation turned into a reality. Right now we have over 400 uh youth soccer players playing per season. Um we also run an after-schools program that is free to all students. [1:05:37, 1:05:52]: We serviced over 900 students in elementary schools within Henry County. Most of those schools we service are Title I schools. And we're able to reach out and really mentor some kids. You know, we've had some great success stories over the years. [1:05:53, 1:06:13]: And it's uh it's really been exciting for us. You know, um we've also over the last two years uh we started a recreational program in Ellenwood. They built a two field park up in Ellenwood, which has over four hundred kids planned on it every season now, uh kind of a tracker to what we can do as far as building it in. That's low cost, that's roughly one hundred and seventy dollars a kid. [1:06:13, 1:06:20]: Which is uh pretty cheap, to be honest. That that basically is what our costs are. Um [1:06:20, 1:06:35]: Also through a partnership with the Georgia Revolution Academy, we're able to transition our talented players who have the opportunity to go play professionally or in college, you know, into a much more competitive program. We we allowed$40,000 worth of scholarships per season. [1:06:35, 1:06:43]: uh for that which uh we we use that through we do some fundraising to do that some sponsorship and that's how we uh we provide [1:06:43, 1:07:03]: the large amount of scholarships of these kids. Most of the kids in our program have some sort of a scholarship. And out of that, within the last three years, we've had over 40 kids get free rides to college. And we do that. We have a college coordinator who helps with FAFSA, works with the kids from a time like 13 or 14, says, hey, make sure you keep that 3.25. [1:07:03, 1:07:09]: Make sure you're not getting in trouble. That's part of our mentorship program. We're really trying to help the kids. Um [1:07:11, 1:07:31]: And most recently, what we've done is uh we've partnered with the city of McDonough, and we've we're building a mini pitch. It's currently under construction at Alexander Park now on 2342. If you drive by, you can see the construction, it's right by the pavilion. It'll be done within the next couple of months. Um and that partnership was with Southern Crescent Soccer Foundation, the City of McDonough, and [1:07:31, 1:07:47]: the Atlanta United. Um between the three of us we raised the f the three hundred dollars, three hundred thousand dollars worth of funds it took to build that facility. It's gonna be phenomenal. I'm gonna invite everybody to the opening because it's gonna be huge. Atlanta United's gonna be there. Don't know if you're soccer fans, but it's gonna get a lot of people. It's gonna be a really big event. [1:07:48, 1:07:52]: And um so that kinda brings us to what we're talking about now, which is the uh Eagles Landing Park. [1:07:53, 1:07:53]: You know, um [1:07:55, 1:08:00]: The we're we're talking about having a two field park there which which gives space for four to five hundred children to play. [1:08:01, 1:08:01]: Um [1:08:02, 1:08:03]: You know, yeah. [1:08:04, 1:08:12]: Each season right now we're having to turn dozens and dozens of kids away because we're just out of space. There is nowhere in the county for kids to play soccer. The uh [1:08:12, 1:08:18]: The only county parks that exist are two two fields in Ellenwood and there is a a large fourteen field facility in Hampton, but as you know [1:08:19, 1:08:20]: Stockbridge and Hampton. [1:08:20, 1:08:23]: With our traffic is not an easy drive after work. [1:08:23, 1:08:29]: Um so we really want to start putting stuff more local and really impact a local community. Um [1:08:30, 1:08:50]: You know, what we're hoping to do is partner with the city, you know, to turn those fields into realities. We have a track record already of of you know building good programs for the kids, you know, as I already talked about. We also have a track record right now with working in private public partnerships with what we're doing with the city of McDonough. It's the first time we've ever done it. I'm not gonna lie, it was not an easy lift, but you know, we've [1:08:50, 1:08:53]: We've learned a lot and we're really happy to get through that. [1:08:53, 1:08:54]: And um [1:08:55, 1:08:57]: You know, with this, you know, how does it how does it help the city really? [1:08:58, 1:08:59]: Is that you know [1:09:00, 1:09:19]: If we have a partnership together, we can work on getting grants to help build the fields. Um, we'll definitely provide programming for the fields. You know, example, we get tournaments going in there on the weekends. That is gonna gonna really boost the local economy. You're talking filling up hotels. You know, we're running a tournament right now in Ellenwood next weekend. We have over thirty teams coming. [1:09:19, 1:09:20]: You know, that's [1:09:21, 1:09:41]: Four hundred kids plus their families, they all gotta eat. They all gotta stay somewhere. Now some are local, but those who aren't local, they're staying in local hotels. Which um I refer to more the the new hotel right there off of uh of Rockwari, the true. Don't know where they're all staying, but that's where I thought'em they should stay. Um [1:09:41, 1:09:47]: You're welcome. And then I, you know, so to be an economic boost to the area, you know, we'll also help in maintaining the fields. [1:09:47, 1:09:49]: You know, soccer fields [1:09:49, 1:09:50]: are tough to maintain. [1:09:51, 1:09:56]: Um, to have high level soccer fields and to be completely candid, there's not a high level soccer field in this county. [1:09:57, 1:10:03]: Um there are a handful over in Fayette County. There's a private facility in Rockdale that has some pretty decent ones. [1:10:03, 1:10:13]: Um but Henry County itself we have decent soccer fields. We have playable soccer fields. We don't have high end soccer fields. And if we can build something that's a higher end [1:10:13, 1:10:16]: that will attract more and more people, including [1:10:16, 1:10:18]: You know, if professional teams are out. [1:10:18, 1:10:22]: You know, they're playing Atlanta United or they're here for a tournament. They're always looking for fields. [1:10:22, 1:10:23]: My son [1:10:24, 1:10:29]: Just left, but he was working for Atlanta United for the last three years. And part of his job was logistics of finding fields. [1:10:30, 1:10:32]: The closest fields they could find were in Athens. [1:10:34, 1:10:39]: Yeah, so I mean if you think about that, you know, we have an opportunity in Stockbridge to really [1:10:39, 1:10:49]: You know, plant a flag in Stockword to say, Come to our fields, you know, spend money in our restaurants, spend money in our hotels, you know, become part of our community. And I think it'll attract a lot of people. [1:10:50, 1:10:52]: Good deal. Appreciate it. Thanks. All right. [1:10:53, 1:10:57]: Uh I would imagine we have some conversation. Uh Mr Alexander, go ahead please. [1:10:57, 1:11:17]: I would like to say thank you, Mr. Morrison, for bringing this project forward. Certainly it's excellence, and we want to set the bar really high in Stockbridge, because our motto, right, is to be exceptional, right? In our in our in our in our mission and vision statement. And this is project will help us to be able to do that. And certainly the partners that you brought. [1:11:17, 1:11:37]: to the table will be able to help us establish something we wanted in in the Eagles Landing area of the city, south side of the city as well. But it'll be used by pretty much the whole region. So, you know, I saw yourself on Facebook and McDonald got it done. And what we're bringing here is going to be a two-fields versus a mini pill. [1:11:37, 1:11:44]: It will be a substantial project and a tourism project, we hope, uh as well that we will be able to support. So thank you. [1:11:45, 1:11:48]: Thank you, sir. Any other comments, Council? [1:11:49, 1:11:50]: Okay, Ms. Barber, go ahead, please. [1:11:52, 1:11:53]: Um yes. [1:11:54, 1:11:55]: So [1:11:59, 1:12:06]: I'm reminded of my fiscal responsibility. I need to know funding wise. [1:12:07, 1:12:08]: Yeah, zink. [1:12:08, 1:12:13]: What is it that you're asking for? I know that Mr. Sanders [1:12:14, 1:12:16]: You mentioned um [1:12:16, 1:12:19]: A letter of in kind of some sort. [1:12:19, 1:12:21]: I just need to know. [1:12:21, 1:12:27]: if there is monies attached to that, or is it just the land that the city [1:12:28, 1:12:31]: It's perhaps donating. Is that the income that you're looking for? [1:12:31, 1:12:34]: Um we haven't discussed a donation of land. [1:12:34, 1:12:36]: Umise [1:12:37, 1:12:40]: The um I can tell you how we did it with the city of McDonough. [1:12:40, 1:12:42]: It was a three hundred thousand dollar project. [1:12:43, 1:12:53]: We raised$125,000 on donations. The city of McDonough paid$75,000 and Atlantia 90 kicked in$100,000. [1:12:53, 1:12:57]: Um this project we haven't really bid it out yet. [1:12:58, 1:12:58]: Um [1:12:59, 1:13:00]: Would likely be more than that. [1:13:01, 1:13:09]: Many pitches are very expensive. Also, where we built it there, the the prep of the site was very expensive. It was an old parking lot. It was 75,000 just to strip the parking lot. [1:13:09, 1:13:10]: Um [1:13:11, 1:13:14]: So it would end up being a situation where we do it as a partnership. [1:13:14, 1:13:17]: Um, we're not gonna be able to come up with the [1:13:18, 1:13:35]: I'm this is a guess, don't hold it to me, four hundred thousand dollars by ourselves to build that facility. It's not not not something we could do, at least not in the short term. If we're trying to have it by twenty twenty six or twenty twenty seven, that would be a multi year, you know, raising of funds to do that. Um it took [1:13:35, 1:13:39]: Well over a year for us to raise a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. [1:13:40, 1:13:42]: А митснат так із [1:13:42, 1:13:57]: It's funny, I went into it very blindly, right? Thinking, oh, people just write checks. That ain't how the world works. People are not just writing you checks. That was fifty dollars here,$75 there,$500 here. It takes a long time to raise that kind of money. We are a nonprofit. Um [1:13:57, 1:14:08]: And we we we raise our money on on donations and grants. Uh most of the money that we actually make within the organization from fees, we give that back to sponsors or to scholarships. [1:14:08, 1:14:14]: That's why I discussed your we're giving$40,000 using sponsorship or scholarships. We give that money back to our families. [1:14:15, 1:14:15]: Um [1:14:16, 1:14:20]: But yes, there would be there'd be a piece for Stockbridge. [1:14:20, 1:14:26]: that the city of Stockbridge would would be involved in and I don't know whether when you're building the park [1:14:26, 1:14:46]: Part of the park would be slowed funding for soccer fields. I don't know how you guys are planning on funding everything. We're saying is we can contribute and help build it and we can program it and fill it up and then we can also help maintain it, which maintenance cost is also, you know, for two fields, two grass fields to maintain them properly, you're talking fifteen to twenty thousand dollars a year. [1:14:46, 1:14:48]: to maintain those fields. That's at a minimum. [1:14:49, 1:14:55]: Um and we're willing to do that. That will be our responsibility to maintain those fields, not the whole park, of course, but those fields. [1:14:56, 1:15:03]: And so there is a we're we're we're giving a lot to the project and also to the community with the programming and providing something for the children. [1:15:04, 1:15:06]: Mm-hmm. [1:15:07, 1:15:16]: I support the idea. I do. It's just um we've already approved our budget for the year. Right. So I'm just [1:15:17, 1:15:26]: Concerned trying to figure out Mr. Sanders, have you met with Mr. Malazi to find out what the funding source would be for this project? [1:15:28, 1:15:48]: I have not yet. Councilman Barber had a formal conversation with him, but we have certainly we certainly intend to have him as a part of the discussion, uh, particularly at whatever point in time it is that we might need to have city funds be a part of the project. So that is a conversation that is going to happen. Okay, so I would suggest that you have a conversation. [1:15:48, 1:15:51]: [4551.8, 4555.6]: This proposal to us um to approve it. [1:15:55, 1:16:01]: We need to know where the funds are coming from. As you know, our budget is pretty tight. [1:16:01, 1:16:11]: This year. So we need to know. We need to be able to identify the funding source. I support this proposal. My concern is how are we gonna pay for it? [1:16:12, 1:16:13]: We [1:16:14, 1:16:16]: We should have learned our lesson. [1:16:17, 1:16:18]: Um from last year. [1:16:18, 1:16:23]: With a lot of unbudgeted items. Sure. And I'm afraid this is one of them. [1:16:23, 1:16:28]: I want to support it, but I'm just Mr. Malazi, are you [1:16:29, 1:16:33]: I need I need to ask you a question, please. Can you come to the podium? [1:16:37, 1:16:46]: Of course I would hope that these are conversations that would be had before the proposal is brought to the council. And I hate to put you on the spot, but [1:16:47, 1:16:49]: Are you able to identify or [1:16:50, 1:16:55]: Think of um a funding source, an account where we may be able to fund [1:16:55, 1:16:57]: This particular proposal. [1:17:00, 1:17:10]: If it's not in the budget it doesn't exist, so what we would do is we'll take from one side depending on your advice to fund what is important. [1:17:11, 1:17:23]: So and thank you for that, sir. Um I'm just I don't know where you would be taking it from. And I certainly don't want you to take it from um one of the projects that may benefit um [1:17:24, 1:17:27]: Something in my district or anyone else's districts. [1:17:28, 1:17:28]: Um [1:17:28, 1:17:34]: So that's that's the challenge that I have, the fact that this is unbudgeted. Um [1:17:36, 1:17:39]: So I'm just trying to figure out how we're gonna fund it. [1:17:40, 1:17:43]: [4665.1, 4666.2]: Okay, so [1:17:47, 1:17:55]: I know Mr Sanders mentioned about TSW and the concept plans. Who's paying for that? [1:17:58, 1:18:15]: Councilwoman, I don't recall the exact fund source right now, but I know that you all at your March twenty fifth meeting did approve for the concept plan for these particular uh uh fields to be included in T S W scope of work that was approved at that that particular meeting. Okay, and how much is that? [1:18:16, 1:18:31]: I don't recall the individual costs for that b for the two fields being added, I can find out if you'd like and follow up. But I don't know off the top of my head. Um let's see. One more question. Mr. Aaron isn't here. [1:18:31, 1:18:32]: Um [1:18:32, 1:18:39]: Were we did we have to amend the master the parts master plan to include this proposal? [1:18:40, 1:19:00]: Not sure if it was a formal amendment, but if I remember what was in the this is in line with the parks master plan in terms of this grease green space amenity. So I'm not sure if a formal uh uh amendment to the plan had to be made. But this use, as I understand it right now, fits in with the overall master plan. [1:19:03, 1:19:14]: Okay. So the prep work you mentioned about the prep work and I'm sorry, I forgot your name. You said that the soccer association, you all would be responsible for the prep work. [1:19:15, 1:19:28]: It's really gonna depend on what our final agreement comes down to, what what we'll be responsible for and what the city will be responsible for. Um like I said with with the mini picture built with McDonough, the city of McDonough said that they would [1:19:29, 1:19:46]: Take care of the prep work and that was about seventy five thousand dollars. I don't have any idea what the prep work would cost on this certain field. Um, it really depends on the what needs to be done. That one was was massive. They were tearing out a huge parking lot. It was a it was a very heavy lift to prep that. Okay. I think what this we're talking about, I d [1:19:47, 1:19:52]: prepping ground, which I would think would be easier to do. Again, I'm not a I'm not a contractor. [1:19:52, 1:19:55]: Seems like seems easier to me, but I the um [1:19:56, 1:19:59]: You know, in addition to the Georgia one hundred grant that we used [1:20:00, 1:20:01]: For Alexander Park. [1:20:01, 1:20:06]: You know, there's uh there's another one called Innovate in Soccer, the US Soccer Foundation. [1:20:07, 1:20:08]: provides grants for. [1:20:08, 1:20:11]: And that is also to build and improve facilities. [1:20:12, 1:20:14]: Uh the issue we run into not a lot of grants. [1:20:14, 1:20:31]: provide building of new facilities. They provide improvement of facilities. So we're we're looking hard on what grants we can see. There's there's some lighting grants out there through um US Soccer. So you know there there's various grants available [1:20:31, 1:20:35]: Once we move forward with the partnership and I'm continuing to to look at'em. [1:20:35, 1:20:54]: But you know the the low-hanging fruit is the Georgia 100 grant. That's the one we've done before. That's the one where if we show that the city is doing part of it and we're doing part of it, it's fairly, I wouldn't say easy to get, but it's easier to get than some of the other grants. And um because we've used it before, I've built a good relationship with them. [1:20:55, 1:21:00]: Окей совоenable to the council? [1:21:01, 1:21:05]: Adopting a resolution in support of this project. [1:21:05, 1:21:10]: And at a later date you can bring us back whatever that budget will be. [1:21:10, 1:21:13]: Um that you're looking for us to [1:21:14, 1:21:31]: I I I'll leave that decision up to the council, ma'am. That's Okay. So then Mr. Anderson then Mr. Sanders then since you brought this to the council. I just need some clarity on how we plan to pay for this. We already don't know what the full cost is. [1:21:31, 1:21:51]: It's I'm glad that he's talking about grants and there are grant opportunities. That is gonna help a lot. I really want to support this. I do. Okay. Help me understand because I don't want to just let her let her finish your comments, please. Let her finish comments. I don't want to just blindly approve something when there [1:21:51, 1:22:11]: There is a dollar amount that is unknown to us. Okay. One of the ways I can answer that question is by saying this. At the beginning of our conversation with the Soccer Association, one of the things that we learned is that the average field costs between$200,000 and$300,000. [1:22:11, 1:22:31]: So that's one cost that I'm fairly familiar with as being the case. Now the sources of funds, admittedly, I cannot answer that question necessarily right now without out having some additional discussion with Mr. Malazzi's office. And of course, I I respect where you're coming from in terms of knowing the cost. Um this project [1:22:31, 1:22:45]: however, came about as a result of as again, as as Mr. Morrison has alluded, a partnership and as I understood it from the beginning and as I still understand it now, this is a partnership where the costs are split. So it's a little early [1:22:46, 1:23:05]: uh at this point to know that without understanding exactly what what we're gonna do. And so the answer to that in my mind is we're gonna do two fields for now. And so if you will notice on the schematic that I sent you, it included more facilities which will be another cost. [1:23:05, 1:23:25]: But for the purpose of right now, the reason the support is being asked from council is because the grant that Mr. Morrison is seeking, the Georgia 100 grant, um, it requires just some baseline information of one, the commitment of in kind, which no money is being asked of council this evening. Number two [1:23:25, 1:23:45]: it needed a letter of support from the mayor, which he's aware of and and has agreed to do. And uh the third item was the the map that you all received by email over between Friday and I guess Saturday whenever you received it. So initially what we're talking about now is capturing that bit of information. That's it. [1:23:47, 1:23:48]: Thank you, sir. [1:23:49, 1:24:09]: Okay, Ms. Alzana, go ahead. I'm stunned. I'm sitting here disappointed in this. And uh because we've had conversations about this. We talked about it with the I call Mr. Malazzi personally and talked about the SPLOS 6 funding, that we certainly did the same thing for public works. We certainly did the same thing for other areas. I had that conversation with both of us. [1:24:09, 1:24:29]: Staff members, yet this is where we are right now. We have five million dollars in an account in SPLOS 6 dedicated to park improvements. This is where we're gonna take the funding from. And Mr. Morrison, I think you'll tell us the money's not due today. It's gonna take a while for us to get to that point through the planning and zoning and various others and the SPLOS. [1:24:29, 1:24:49]: Five is being collected at you know seven hundred thousand dollars, I think, beginning in June, July in that area as we collect the money. So it will become due when we get to the process of where we need the end kind and we need to improve the fields. This is where we are, and that's kind of why how we're gonna find we're gonna do it. The voters approved. [1:24:49, 1:25:09]: A one cent sales tax that's going to generate millions of dollars. And one of the things they asked us for is amenities and parks and competitive playing fields into the city. This is where we are now, and we need this council to step up. As Mr. Morrison has indicated, this will be a top-notch field. [1:25:09, 1:25:17]: For the metro Atlanta area that we can use. I certainly support it and I'd like to go ahead and make a motion for approval. [1:25:18, 1:25:33]: Okay, okay, fine. Did you I thought you did you have something you need to say as as well? Well, I I just I I read the notes. We've had'em for a couple of days now and I thank you for giving me everything in advance to study and it said an in kind donation and that you weren't asking for any monetary [1:25:33, 1:25:36]: thing right now, not for uh [1:25:36, 1:25:51]: the purpose of a budget. I actually know that we do have money set aside for our parks, including the plans. And Mr. Aaron did come here at the last meeting. We talked about this, whether it was the last meeting or the meeting before that, about these professional soccer fields. [1:25:51, 1:25:54]: And one of the things that attracts people [1:25:55, 1:26:14]: Our tournaments. We already know that, right? We know that soccer tournaments, baseball tournaments, football tournaments, whatever the tournament is, it's gonna attract people, but they're not gonna be here permanently. They're here for tourism purposes. They come and spend money at our hotels, they eat at the restaurants, and they have a great time at a professional park. [1:26:14, 1:26:17]: Амі, you're talking about professional fields, that's an opportunity. [1:26:18, 1:26:24]: um to get with an organization I I don't think I can reject that. [1:26:24, 1:26:44]: Especially when no one's asking me for money and it's in black and white. It says in con donations, no money is being asked for, right? That's right. And then we have plans specifically for our parks already anyway. That park in particular. Specifically already talked about the design and how it would fit in. [1:26:44, 1:27:04]: And where it would fit in with the in regards, I think I even question who does the design, does TSW do it, do they do it? What is the case? So we get together and we form that partnership. If he's asking for our support in order to get that grant and say, I have the buy-in of mayor and council, and you've already [1:27:04, 1:27:11]: already given me a memo, a very detailed memo in regards to what is being said, then I'm all for it. [1:27:12, 1:27:32]: Too good, sir. Okay. Yeah. And to echo onto that, I'm very, very excited to do a partnership, especially when it comes to youth programming. I think that's the very fabric of of any city, any community, is that when you see visible youth programming at work, i.e. the soccer program, it it it's a it's a huge attraction. And it also [1:27:32, 1:27:52]: Also affords families uh things for their children to be active in doing because we know idle children leads to all kind of other situations in in our in our society. So uh anytime we can put together some programming, which is I think right now we have a void in Stockbridge of adequate youth programming. [1:27:52, 1:28:12]: be the athletic, uh cultural, performing arts, whatever. So this is another opportunity for us to seize a moment and plant our flag for something that is substantial in support of our youth uh programming. And so I'm I'm definitely in favor of what we're trying to do here and and I'm looking forward [1:28:12, 1:28:18]: Forward to a partnership that can bring more. We need more of this. This is the beginning. This is the precipice of it. [1:28:18, 1:28:23]: But we really need more of this in Stockbridge in Henry County. [1:28:24, 1:28:26]: Hi Ms. Alexander, go ahead, please. [1:28:28, 1:28:39]: uh for approval of as recommended and certainly when that time comes the estimates will be brought back to us and'll be incorporated into the parks master plan uh of the city of stockbridge. [1:28:39, 1:28:55]: Is there a second? Second. Mr. Mr. Berry, second. All fair, please indicate. It's unanimous decision. Outstanding. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you, Mary. And I do apologize. Co uh Councilman Alexander was right. When you mentioned the Splash 6, I that has slipped my mind, so I do apologize for that, but you I do remember that. 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And the 2025 council season continues with March, excuse me, with the Saturday, May 24th, Memorial Day weekend, 36th. [1:33:11, 1:33:28]: South Yeet Crunk Fest, featuring Pastor Troy, MC Shidey, DJ Rahim, The Dream, Mook B at and Trivial, and East Size Boys. Saturday, June fourteenth, Ladies of Eighties, featuring Regina Bell, Karen White, Denise Williams, Evelyn Champaign King, [1:33:28, 1:33:48]: Shanice and Beverly Crawford and special guest appearance by the Silver Fox Squad, and this is off the awesome uh Father's Day weekend. Sunday, June 15th, Anthony Hamilton and Friends will be here. Saturday, June 28th, Legacy and Kindred, the Family Soul will be here. And July 12th, the all-white party, everybody comes dressed in white and trade tribute to [1:33:48, 1:34:08]: Frankie Beverly featuring the maze band, Ju Boo, Ms. Smith, Eric Bennet, David Hollister, Christopher Williams, Mike Phillips, and Vivian Green. And in my comments, uh, of course, summer is approaching. Students are out of school, so be careful when you're driving about and uh with the watch out for the children and enjoy your vacation time. [1:34:08, 1:34:28]: time time with the family and please be safe during the course of the summer months and make sure you keep your health up, get your uh a normal uh health checkups, you know, booster shots wherever you need, and stay healthy, we want you around for a long time. On that note, uh Kim Sir let me ask you one question. Was the was the Brett Michaels concert [1:34:28, 1:34:29]: I don't [1:34:29, 1:34:49]: Uh actually that's a good point. Right. Mr. Young had mentioned that. He said he didn't see it on the list. That's gonna be May 31st. Uh Brett Michaels, Lupi Fiasco, and Chapel Hart. Yeah, thank you for that. You're right. It's not up here. I'm sorry, I forgot about that. Good deal. All right. And on that note, I believe we have a second session uh for legal personnel and real estate to discuss. [1:34:50, 1:35:03]: Mayor move that we go into executive session for real estate personnel litigations. Is there a second to the motion? Sir. Okay, ms uh Mr. I second that. All in favor? Okay. Announced the season. We'll go into executive session. We'll be back shortly. [1:35:29, 1:35:31]: If a dollar can someone. [1:35:38, 1:35:41]: Well I got she performer? Yes. [1:35:51, 1:35:55]: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. [1:59:02, 1:59:09]: No, the I have to do it. [1:59:30, 1:59:34]: Council, I need a motion to end our executive session, please. So moved. Okay. [1:59:34, 1:59:48]: Okay, from uh Ms. Gantt to Mr. Berry, all in favor please indicate. I need a motion to reconvene our council meeting, please. F from Mr Mr. Berry to Ms. Gantt. All in favor, please indicate. [1:59:49, 1:59:56]: All right, it's unanimous decision. Okay. Out of our executive session I have a a a letter I need to read here, put in a record. [1:59:56, 1:59:59]: And I want to know that the the tire uh [1:59:59, 2:00:19]: Council is signed off on this. And this is actually a formal letter of admission uh and an omission, a violation of City Council's uh City Stop Rates ethics and conduct standards. Dear Councilwoman Barber. The letter serves as a formal uh admission at omission, excuse me, regarding the recent uh patterns of conduct observed during official meetings. [2:00:19, 2:00:28]: The city council, which violates the city Stockbridges charter, code of ordinances, ethic expectations binding all elected officials. [2:00:28, 2:00:33]: In the expectation of the mayor and city council that all elected members maintain a high standard of professionalism, [2:00:34, 2:00:35]: ethic responsibility. [2:00:36, 2:00:39]: Unfortunately in your repeated conduct during several m council meetings. [2:00:40, 2:01:00]: Most notably those held from January 2024 to the present have been inconsistent with these standards. The purpose of this letter is to formally identify the concerns and request immediate sustained corrective behavior. Fair to respect the authority of the Chair, Mayor Ford. Under section 2.40.055 [2:00:59, 2:01:19]: five of Stockbridge Code of Ethics. City meeting rules elected officials are required to observe proper decorum, including the respecting authority of the presiding officer. During multiple council meetings, you have interrupted Mayor Anthony Ford, disregarded his request for order, and continue to speak out of turn without being recognized. These actions directly undermined if [2:01:19, 2:01:39]: effectiveness of the meeting and violate the norms of mutual respect required under this section. Impugnating the integrity of the fellow off officials and city staff. You have repeatedly made unsubstantiated accusations against fellow council members, the mayor, and professional city staff regarding alleged corruption, illegal conduct, and other ethical behavior. [2:01:39, 2:01:59]: Without providing any credible evidence of the uh following proper channels for reporting such concerns. This matter uh contraven contravenes the city code of ethics, which mandates that city officials act with civility, integrity, and fairness, and avoid any conduct that would bring uh d re disrepute upon the city. [2:01:59, 2:02:19]: City. Additionally, a charter prohibits elected officials from interfering in the execution of city contracts or giving orders to staff without proper channels. Number three, disruption of meetings and procedural violations. On multiple occasions, you have spoken out of term, used to yield yield the floor, and engaged in verbal exchanges that disrupted the order. [2:02:19, 2:02:32]: order of council proceedings and prolonged meetings unnecessarily due not obeying rules or conduct and procedure. These incidents have required multiple points of order from fellow council members and repeated intervention by the chair. [2:02:32, 2:02:45]: Such behavior violates the council's uh procedural rules, which requires elected officials to conduct business solely through the city manager and maintain appropriate roles during official meetings. It also contravenes the charter. [2:02:45, 2:03:05]: Where it is required that all officials conduct themselves in a manner that reflects favorably upon the city. Number four, making bias, uh basis, excuse me, making baseless allegations of alleged conduct in governance of contracts. Public settings, you asserted that stop raised officials or processes are operating illegally without filing formal complaints or requesting investigations. [2:03:05, 2:03:07]: [7388.1, 7401.0]: These actions erode public confidence in the city's governments and appear to be aimed more at provo uh provokus prov oh my god provocation uh provocation of that that uh the account of that of accountability. [2:03:21, 2:03:41]: The other's code specifically bars any official from using their position to create a hostile environment for other city officials or employees. The caution is cautions against a misuse of public forms to level personal and unsupported accusations. Sermon expectations in light and above pursuant of authority vesting the mayor and the [2:03:41, 2:04:01]: The council under this letter shall be retained an official obligation. Uh shall be considered in future evaluations of ethical conduct. You are respectively reminded of your obligations to respect the chair's authority during meetings and refrain from speaking without recognition, avoid personal attacks or defamatory consequences. [2:04:01, 2:04:05]: Comments against fellow officials or city staff raise any concerns about [2:04:05, 2:04:10]: illegal uh illegalogy or misconduct through proper internal or legal [2:04:10, 2:04:30]: Reporting channels, follow the rules of procedural ethical decorum at all times when conducting city business. It is our sincere hope that this matter serves to constructive turning point. We remain committed to working in collaborative with you in the best interest of the residents of the Stop Region trust that future conduct reflect the values and service of civility. [2:04:30, 2:04:38]: Signed by myself, Mayor Pro Tem Lukisha Gantt, Councilman Iozander, and Councilman Berry. I need a motion to put this in record, please. [2:04:39, 2:04:50]: Some move. Is there a second? Third. Okay, from Ms. Gantt to uh Mr. Alexander, all in favor, please indicate. All opposed. All right. It is accepted. Three votes. [2:04:51, 2:04:59]: This aspect and on that note I need a motion to end our meeting. So moved. Is there a second? From Mr. Gam Mr. Gamton, Mr. Salzano, I'm fair, please indicate. [2:05:00, 2:05:00]: Bean is down. [2:05:05, 2:05:08]: Yeah, it was a hunting for me to read, but okay then.

--- title: Work Session Meeting date: 2025-04-29 source: 2025-04-29_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:01:56, 0:02:01]: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we'll get the meeting started. Um we do have a quorum. [0:02:02, 0:02:10]: I have six oh three. I'd like to call our council work session Tuesday, March 29th, to order. [0:02:10, 0:02:11]: And um [0:02:12, 0:02:15]: Could you please stand for the invocation? Mr Aaron, please. [0:02:26, 0:02:46]: Shall we pray? Father God, in the name of Jesus, we come to you, Lord, just giving you thanks. We give you thanks for this day. God, we pray that you'll be in the midst of us during this meeting, God. Guide our thoughts, guide our actions, God. In your son Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. Pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the act of the United States. [0:02:45, 0:02:54]: States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, honor God, individual, with liberty and justice for all. [0:02:55, 0:02:57]: Madam Clerk, Rocal, please. [0:03:00, 0:03:01]: Good evening. Evening. [0:03:05, 0:03:25]: Good. Mayor Ford? Present. Mayor Pro Tem Gantt. Present. Council Member Thomas. Let the record reflect. Councilmember Thomas is not in attendance. Councilmember Berry. Present. Council Member Barber. Present. Council Member Alexander. Present. Mayor Ford, you have a quorum. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate that. Uh council I need [0:03:25, 0:03:35]: a motion to adopt the agenda please. So moved. Okay. Sir second? Second. Okay, Mr. Aliz from MaGanttam Alexander. Mr. Alexander, all in favor please indicate. Unanimous decision. All right. Thank you very much. [0:03:36, 0:03:43]: And okay, Madam Clerk, we have any public comments at all? We do, Mr. Turner. Okay, come on, Mr. Turner. Name and address, please. [0:03:50, 0:03:53]: Make sure the the mic is on if you see the green light. [0:03:53, 0:04:13]: Two five four warble away stop bridge. My name's Paul Turner. All right. Uh before I make any comment, I just wanna reiterate this is not personal, this is a business setting. So let's leave all personal emotions out of this. Um but I will be talking about uh the Stockbridge Amphitheater, and I'm calling for an immediate suspension. [0:04:13, 0:04:33]: Consist of all business due to the uh financial insecurities, the five the lack of financial um leadership on a positive state. Um I received the 2024 concert series breakdown, and a lot of these businesses. [0:04:33, 0:04:53]: Businesses are not even registered with the Georgia Corporations divisions. And each of you know what that is because you have businesses, uh, except you, Mr. Ford and Miss Barber. Alexander Ballroom, which is dissolved business and September 8th, 2023, received ninety three thousand six hundred and fifty. [0:04:53, 0:05:02]: fifteen dollars from the stopreach amphitheater just of last year's for twenty twenty four season and they've been suspended since two thousand and twenty three. [0:05:04, 0:05:08]: Um and they reside in Macon, Georgia. Let's just follow up. Um [0:05:09, 0:05:29]: There's a Mr. Harold Young who runs the amphitheater, who's been in charge since the beginning. Um since uh you guys uh left the Georgia, what is it, Georgia Railroad or Georgia? One of those he was on radio lines lines. Right. Well he's been with uh them I've got you since since before. [0:05:29, 0:05:31]: Um [0:05:32, 0:05:40]: A Nordic Photography is not on Georgia Corporations. We paid them two hundred two hundred and seventy dollars. Uh Campbell Cleaning. [0:05:40, 0:05:48]: We paid them three thirty seven thousand five hundred and forty dollars and they just became active April seventeenth, two thousand twenty four. [0:05:50, 0:05:51]: Omega back line. [0:05:52, 0:06:12]: Omega Backline was formed january eighth, two thousand and twenty-five. We paid them one hundred and twenty six thousand four hundred and twenty dollars for a company that was just registered of this year. We paid them for a 2024 concert series of [0:06:12, 0:06:20]: One hundred and twenty six thousand four hundred and twenty dollars, and that's ran by Mr. Brian Ward, who also is in Macon. [0:06:23, 0:06:25]: We have a [0:06:25, 0:06:28]: TM Consulting. [0:06:31, 0:06:32]: Um [0:06:33, 0:06:40]: And TM marketing both are not on Georgia Corporation divisions. [0:06:40, 0:07:00]: Why are we paying a consulting fee and a marketing fee if that's what Mr. Young was hired to do? We pay TM consultants thirty nine thousand six hundred and ninety five dollars and TM marketing twelve thousand three hundred and seventy six dollars. So that's just an overall s uh scheme of things. [0:07:02, 0:07:09]: But wanna ask the council for more time? Uh yeah, one second. Wanna give it more time, council? [0:07:10, 0:07:11]: Yeah. [0:07:11, 0:07:13]: Huh? No you know, you know? [0:07:15, 0:07:15]: Sure. [0:07:16, 0:07:22]: Okay. Sir, that's your time. Appreciate you. Appreciate your comments. We'll get a response back to you in reference to all everything that you mentioned. [0:07:23, 0:07:43]: Just though that um your time's up, sir. I understand that. But there's no one else here to make a public comment. I understand. It just shows the characteristics of the leadership. I just asked the council, sir. Thank you. Thank you for your time. All right. Uh Council on the review of the minutes. Um once we review the April 14th, uh, twenty twenty-five council. [0:07:42, 0:07:52]: meeting minutes and also the April twenty first uh special call meeting minutes. Review those and we'll take a look at to uh approve those at our next meeting. [0:07:52, 0:08:12]: Okay. On that note, we're going to quarterly reports. We started this back up. Now what it is is that I have before me the actual manager's report. We'll kick this off. And this is in and the manager's report actually is consolidation for the first three months of course of this uh fiscal year. And it covers actually all the uh different departments. [0:08:12, 0:08:32]: And I'll try to highlight some of those things those departments. And if there are any specific questions when I'm done, then the the the actual members of the department heads are here if need be. And they're and you should have in your book the all the information in reference to their highlights from the first quarter. All right. So uh let me go down this and uh and see what we got here in this aspect. Of course, uh [0:08:32, 0:08:52]: I'm acting interim manager for what a little bit longer here. The uh of course the city manager typically attends and and supports new businesses and ribbon cuttings. And uh there is a civic sign is uh twice a month uh that uh now I'm now attending that. And of course uh in the past, during the first part of this quarter, the city manager [0:08:52, 0:09:12]: Manager did uh attend the Bridge Geological Development type meeting with Mr. Jeff Grant and other members of the staff, along with the actual uh recurring minutes meeting with the Henry County Development Authority. And the let's talk about the event staff. Uh over the first quarter, the event staff has had roughly sixty thousand dollars in total revenue. Um [0:09:12, 0:09:32]: And so far with events. Forty five events were over the force of the first three months. And uh they're in preparation, of course, for any type of the twenty twenty five events that are coming up shortly. And that includes a short list of that food trucks, uh, Tasty Tuesday, Memorial March, and of course uh we'll have our first free concert, city sponsored concert, uh in uh June for June. [0:09:32, 0:09:37]: nineteenth and rest of development will be on stage primarily for that as well. The municipal court [0:09:37, 0:09:41]: Uh citation scheduled for the court during the first quarter, one thousand one hundred and twenty five. [0:09:42, 0:10:02]: Uh cases scheduled for the court is seven hundred and uh seventy-two. Red Speed citations. Uh this is in reference to folks uh speeding through the uh school zones. Ninety-four of those occurred in the first quarter. Uh citations closed and adjudicated eight hundred and nineteen. Uh citations closed by disposition, eight hundred or eight hundred and nineteen. Uh [0:10:02, 0:10:05]: Offenders granted pretrial diversion ninety three. [0:10:05, 0:10:07]: Offender is granted probation seventy seven. [0:10:08, 0:10:28]: The warrants issued 26 and total payments collected in the first quarter are$220,399.50. The Human Resources Department, there are 13 open positions currently, nine hires during the first three months, 34 employee recognitions. The turnover rate is 7.69%. [0:10:28, 0:10:40]: Actively we have 180 employees and during the first quarter terminated or separated with 15 individuals and average time for hire would be 132.42 months normal hire. [0:10:40, 0:11:00]: Uh Department of Public Works, of course, infrastructure investment is critical to the city's continued success, economic success. And so, of course, we have aging deteriorating and obsolete type of infrastructure. Give you an idea of the pipelines and value uh valves anywhere from 40 to 50 years old, mechanical equipment could be 15 years old, wells and springs 25 to 35 years. [0:11:00, 0:11:12]: years old, storage tanks 30 to 60 to give you an idea about infrastructure and things that we have to to maintain and then improve as time goes on. Here recently we had changed out the grass [0:11:12, 0:11:32]: Uh if at the amphitheater where a more porous uh pavement, it was completed a day, be ready for the first concert on the on uh Saturday. And there have been some overhead street signs that have been replaced uh and that here recently as well. And LMEG funding, uh we have uh over first quarter of Valley Hill Road. [0:11:32, 0:11:52]: And says O'Canya's role were also paved during this time frame. And of course, what is next, the mayor of the council of administrative support staff. So first quarter, you go, of course, you have Rosen Rawls and Raven Eaton as our assistants. And they of course support all our council initiatives, could be one from the Bingo Bash. [0:11:52, 0:12:12]: The MLK Day of Service, uh, it could be the the um uh anything with uh excuse me, uh meeting the mayor, uh town halls that we would have, young gift and and uh honors the ceremony, young and gift honors the ceremony, along with my clergy round table, um your prom dress giveaway that was it was conducted and [0:12:12, 0:12:27]: And uh so those are the type of things as you know, Council that they support us on. The clerk's office uh is has for the general public's reply on all information rega uh regarding the operation legislative history of the city. Uh so uh they're the hub of all the information. [0:12:27, 0:12:47]: And during the course of the first quarter, they prepared 36 meeting agendas, 17 council and committee uh board meetings, 28 operations staff and agenda review meetings, nine different training sessions, two thousand one hundred and eighteen meeting notes, six proclamations, and twenty-two oaths of office, and 130 open records requests. The IT department for the first quarter [0:12:47, 0:12:50]: Just some highlights and things, print uh [0:12:50, 0:13:09]: Server rebuild, email security modifications, internal onboarding and equipment process review, SharePoint kickoff for the police department, software acquisition requests, lighthouse training and review. Uh has occurred, ongoing type of projects deal with the SOP for departments, procurement and accounting, and vendor bid review for security systems. [0:13:09, 0:13:24]: Uh let's go on. Uh let's see here. Uh the economic development quarterly report, uh tax allocation update. Of course, in this aspect the Henry County Board of Commissioners have uh uh have signed an agreement with us, still working with the [0:13:24, 0:13:26]: uh school board to uh uh [0:13:27, 0:13:29]: Beyond can um come on board and reference this as well. [0:13:30, 0:13:50]: uh working with North Force Southern Railway uh parking lot uh lease agreement for additional um parking spots 35 to 40 in the downtown area for our our our entertainment area. And we also had a special service district uh that was a option that was uh given to us in the sense given a briefing in reference to staff at our retreat. [0:13:50, 0:13:54]: And uh that is designed to assist municipalities with raising funds. [0:13:54, 0:13:57]: For any type of projects that we have in our community. [0:13:57, 0:14:06]: And um of course we're working through a partnership with Southern Crescent Soccer Association. And uh this aspect we're moving along with that and have that for uh humanity. [0:14:06, 0:14:26]: And obviously, there are two homes, two two pieces of two homes that are going on some property that we we uh uh sold to them or uh donated to them on this aspect as well. Um Mr. Anderson's uh community director. Um zoning cases and rezoning modifications during the first quarter of nine, plan review and commercial and residential. [0:14:26, 0:14:28]: Yeah. [0:14:28, 0:14:31]: And GI GIS is only compliance verification letters of ten. [0:14:31, 0:14:34]: Customer assistant follow-ups are 340. [0:14:34, 0:14:35]: Um [0:14:35, 0:14:39]: There have been roughly for permit review with over four hundred thousand dollars. [0:14:39, 0:14:59]: And uh that we've received thus far in the first quarter and that deals with permits issues, which are 279, inspection 468, plan reviews of course were 71. Uh so uh we're we're actually uh growing. The fire marshal division uh for the first quarter, uh fire marshal plan reviews are sixty-eight, inspections were eighty-six. [0:14:59, 0:15:19]: Excuse me, building in reference to buildings and that they had to do fifty six buildings, uh three sprinkler systems and nine fire alarm systems. And so we're moving right along with that as well. Business services, license issued the first quarter was sixty seven. [0:15:19, 0:15:39]: And then you have business services in reference to um the year to date for business services. Let's see here. Uh you got the steel spirits and beer and wine, hotel, motel, wine consumption in a particular type of uh [0:15:39, 0:15:59]: Diagram here. So uh it looks like$156,500,$355 in reference to hotel motel, give me an idea of the steel spurts, and would have been$34,569. And the um uh been a services for the first quarter, and their services are one million four hundred twenty. [0:15:59, 0:16:19]: $12 and nine well$1,412,958.53. And see here. And the total revenue was uh for the first quarter with business services uh first quarter there is one million four hundred and fifty two seven oh seven hundred forty and seventy-four cents. That's just a rough estimate about that. [0:16:19, 0:16:33]: Uh council, I don't know if you had any specific questions for the directors. You have the forms in front of you. Just want to come uh do a quick upview of some highlights for the first quarter. Um if there are not any questions, we'll move on. Don't know if there are any questions or concerns here. [0:16:35, 0:16:35]: Okay. [0:16:36, 0:16:56]: Seeing none, then I'll move on to consent agenda then. Uh a request for use of commercial, excuse me, council chamber for Patrick Henry meeting room for the annual youth council senior uh ceremony and banquet on May 13th, 2025. And also the Henry County Hazard Mitigation Plan of 2024 to 2029 presented. [0:16:56, 0:17:08]: by what's on the consent agenda. So if you have no questions about that, any motion to uh approve these? So move. Is there a second? From Mr. Ms. Gantt to uh Mr. Berry. All in favor, please and okay? [0:17:09, 0:17:29]: Okay, so you now she said, thank you very much. Uh new business, council consideration approved the renewal of the term contract number uh two two zero one nine-zero zero zero two two p facilities maintenance solutions, grounds keeper landscape between CGL facilities management and LLC in the amount of four hundred thousand dollars. Funding source for the public. [0:17:29, 0:17:33]: Public Works Department budget funds. Ms. Aaron, please. Yes, Mr. Mayor. [0:17:33, 0:17:53]: And council. Uh we're coming to you tonight, but we'd like to ask for a change to that. After conversation with uh Miss Ms. Hall, she would she's recommending that we do bid this out. So we'd like to renew it through the end of the the year and then renew it at the beginning of the year. This also helped us get on the calendar year with our [0:17:53, 0:18:06]: budget cause when we do it mid year like this it crosses over into another budget year. So we'd like to renew it to the end of the year and then start off at the beginning of the year so that we coincide with the budget year. [0:18:07, 0:18:07]: Okay. [0:18:08, 0:18:12]: So we need a you need a motion to to approve your recommendation then. [0:18:12, 0:18:30]: To table it. Oh sorry. Mayor Ford. Uh one one second, hold on second. You you think what's that time? You said table it? Was it uh I'm saying is is the is the question to table it or what No, sir. Uh just to approve it through the end of this calendar year. Okay. And we'll bid it out and then we'll award it at the beginning of the year to get on the budget. [0:18:31, 0:18:31]: Yeah. [0:18:31, 0:18:42]: Okay, l real quick. So this extension, does it include the newly annexed areas? Yes. So it does? Yes. Okay, thank you. Hi Ms. Barber Gloy, please. [0:18:42, 0:18:44]: I'd like to make a motion. Go right in. [0:18:45, 0:19:02]: I move to approve the renewal of the term contract number twenty nineteen dash zero zero zero two two P for Facilities Maintenance Solution Groundskeeper Landscape between CGL facilities management LLC through the end of [0:19:03, 0:19:07]: December thirty first, twenty twenty five, in the amount of four hundred thousand. [0:19:07, 0:19:27]: Council circuit. Okay. Any further questions? If not, all fair please indicate. Excuse you, now it's a student. Thank you, Mr. Thank you, sir. All right. Uh council consideration approved authorization to establish a budget within the traffic camera fund. On March 3rd, 2025, City Council approved resolution OR 25-597 authorizing a transfer of traffic. [0:19:27, 0:19:40]: Traffic camera, red speed revenue from the general fund to be dedicated to a soul special traffic camera fund. To move forward, council approval is now required to establish a budget within this fund. Mr. Malazzi, please. [0:19:41, 0:20:01]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um we came here, the PD came to request you to move money from general fund to set up a fund, Red Speed Fund, which we did. Now they have created a budget with the projected revenues as well as projected [0:20:01, 0:20:12]: expenses. So they are asking you to adopt or accept the uh budget so they can plan for expenses. [0:20:15, 0:20:16]: Questions, Council? [0:20:18, 0:20:27]: Yeah, I'm I'm confused. You saying adopt so we have to adopt a budget in order for the money to be moved for those expenses, for those perp that for that purpose. [0:20:27, 0:20:47]: That's correct. The time we were adopting the all other budgets, this one was was not part of the adoption of those budgets in December last year. So we moved fund to set a fund. That's what we did to set a fund from general fund to set it up. But now they have found [0:20:47, 0:20:53]: how they are going to drive those funds. How they're gonna budget those funds. Yes ma'am okay. Um so moved. [0:20:53, 0:20:54]: Is there a second? Second. [0:20:55, 0:21:06]: Okay, all in favor, please indicate. She names the season. Thank you very much. Okay. Announces of upcoming meetings and events. Upcoming meetings and announcements. Council meeting will be held in Council City Council Chamber. [0:21:06, 0:21:26]: Reading dates, location, and times on subject change, or contact city hall offices at 770-3897900 or visit the website with www.stopbridgega.org for updates. Citizens Police Advisory Council meeting first Thursday of each month at 6 p.m. in the police department community room, 4545 North Henry Boulevard. [0:21:26, 0:21:46]: May 1st. New council meeting first Monday of each month, 6 30 p.m. at City Hall in the Levi Meeting Room, May 5th. Main Street Advisory Board meeting second Friday of each month at 9 o'clock a.m. course in the Downtown Connection Center. 1:30 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, May 9th. City Council meeting held on second Monday of each month at 6 p.m. [0:21:46, 0:22:06]: P.M. City Council Chambers, Council Chambers, May 12th. Citywide Development Authority meeting, second Tuesday of each month at 8, 6 p.m. City Hall Council Chambers and City Hall in the Levi Meeting Room, excuse me, May 13th. Downtown Development Authority Meeting is the third Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. in Downtown Connection Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail. [0:22:06, 0:22:07]: May twentieth. [0:22:08, 0:22:22]: Youth Council Advisory Committee, third Tuesday of each month at six thirty PM City Hall and Levi Meeting Room May twentieth. Plan commission meeting special date May twenty second at six thirty PM City Hall, Council Chambers May twenty second. [0:22:23, 0:22:43]: Council, City Council work session meeting held on the last Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall, Council Chambers, May 27th. Upcoming events and initiatives. Council join uh excuse me, join Councilman Alexander for the state of district, Wednesday, April 30th, 7 p.m. Eaglesland Country Club. Join Councilman Berry for the annual National Day of [0:22:43, 0:22:58]: prayer Thursday, May 1st on the steps of City Hall, 6 30 p.m. Join Councilwoman Barber for the annual Mothers Day Tea, Sunday, May 4th at the Merrill Man's Conference Center from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. celebrating the heart and dedication of mothers who uplift our community. [0:22:58, 0:23:18]: Food Truck Tasty Tuesdays will kick off Tuesday, May 6th at Clark Park at 6 30 PM from eight. We'll feature Soul Cartel. Join us for a great food and lots of fun. Councilman Thomas is honoring veterans and continu off with a continuous salute all year long. Please send your pictures of veterans with their names, branch, screaming rank, and years of service. [0:23:18, 0:23:38]: Join Kamlin Thomas and Don't Trash Stockbridge Initiative centered around education, highlighting the causes and effects of littering and illegal dumping. More information to follow on this. Sign up for real-time alerts about weather, severe weather, road closures, and emergencies on the Regroup app. Visit the city's website or social media pages for more information on how and where. [0:23:38, 0:23:48]: where to sign up. Stay safe. Please contact Ros and Ross to schedule an appointment with meet the mayor. And for more information on Council Initiatives, six seven eight-eight three three-three three three four eight [0:23:48, 0:24:08]: Or via email R Rawls at stopridgega.org. The 2025 concert uh schedule starts this Saturday, May 3rd, My Girls Night featuring Escape, special guest total 702. Saturday, May 10th, Mother's Day weekend show featuring 112, Drew Hill, Silk, and Carl Thomas. Sunday, May 11th, Mother's Day [0:24:08, 0:24:23]: Mother's Day celebration featuring Beanie Man. Saturday, May 24th, Memorial Day weekend, Dirty South Ye Crunk Fest featuring Pastor Troy, MC Shai D and DJ Raheem the Dream, Mook B, Thurovell, and Eastside Boys. [0:24:25, 0:24:45]: Sunday, January 14th, Ladies of the 80s, featuring Regina Bell, Karen White, Denise Williams, Evelyn Champagne King, Shanice, Beverly Crawford, and special guest appearance by the Silver Fox Squad. June 15th, Anthony Hamilton and Friends. Saturday, June 28th, Legacy and Kindered the Family Soul. Saturday, July 12th, All White. [0:24:45, 0:25:05]: White Party tribute to Frankie Beverly, featuring the maze band Jubou, Jubu Smith, Eric Bunet, David Hauster, Christopher Williams, Mike Phillips, and Vivian Green. And my comments for this evening simply deal with the fact that uh just so happens that uh just a couple days ago, uh Saturday, uh we issued [0:25:05, 0:25:25]: The city proclamation to Neil, the artist singer, um, for a special event that he had at Eagles Line Country Club, which is a golf outing, uh, old logo, golf apparel, fashion, and it's a fundraiser for um our uh candidate orphans. It's the first annual uh event of this type here in our city, and we're hoping that Neil will bring it back each and every year. [0:25:24, 0:25:27]: Um, yeah. [0:25:28, 0:25:48]: Okay. And on that note also I want to so let you know that Vicear Ampathy at the bridge, the leadership from Jacksonville and and the leadership here in in the state of Georgia came up for a ribbon cutting ceremony on Friday. Uh the Vice Star is a major sponsor and have naming rights uh for the amphitheater for the next four years. So a great celebration for that as well. And other than that, ladies and [0:25:48, 0:26:05]: Ladies and gentlemen, life for you to be safe and and healthy. So make sure you get uh eat well, exercise, and take those initial type of uh uh visits to the hospital to to the doctor, right? And we want you around for a long time. On that note, council, I need to we need to go to the second session to have a legal personnel and real estate discussion. [0:26:06, 0:26:15]: So move. Is there a second to that? So okay. Uh uh Mr. Berry, I got okay, all fair please indicate. Okay, we'll go on the second sound. We'll be back soon, ladies and gentlemen. [0:26:35, 0:26:47]: We're good. Okay, thank you very much. Council, I need a motion to reconvene a screen to end our executive session, please. So move. Is there a second? Is Barber second for Mr. Alzheimer's, Mr. Barber? All in favor, please indicate. [0:26:48, 0:27:06]: I need a motion to reconvene our uh council work session, please. So moved. Is there Ms. Barber? Second from Mr. Alzheimer's, Ms. Barber. All in favor, please indicate. Okay, thank you very much. And from that particular um uh second session, we have an issue that we want to bring forward. Um Mr. Washington, please. [0:27:11, 0:27:12]: Mm-hmm. [0:27:19, 0:27:20]: Wait. [0:27:21, 0:27:28]: On yon, there you go. Yeah. It does say up here the meeting will resume shortly for app for the video if that's relevant. [0:27:30, 0:27:32]: The video it says the start page will resume shortly. [0:27:33, 0:27:34]: Okay. Okay. [0:27:35, 0:27:39]: All right, so we did discuss the renewal of the police chief's contract. [0:27:46, 0:28:05]: Mm-hmm. Go ahead, Mr. Quinn, please. Go ahead. And by consensus, it was a three year contract, which will be one year with two renewals, with a sixty day termination clause for either side. And that would also be eliminating the power and electricity that was in the contract. And if I'm forgetting anything, mayor, from the notes, please let me know. [0:28:05, 0:28:23]: I think that covers it all. Yes, sir. I'd like to make a motion to approve the as the contractor, Chief Tramer, as outlined by our city attorney. And I'd like to let the public know that we are serious about public safety and securing our outstanding chief. So move. [0:28:24, 0:28:26]: Is there a second to the motion? [0:28:26, 0:28:40]: And certainly we will and task the staff with making sure that uh we look at making the appropriate changes so that the structure can be uh so that the reporting structure will be to the city council. [0:28:41, 0:28:58]: Is there a second motion? Okay, Miss Barber Second, all favor, please indicate. Okay, it's announced decision. Appreciate it. Uh now council, I need a motion to end our meeting this evening. So moved. Is it Miss Barber Second from Amazon? Ms. Barber Second, all in favor, please indicate? All right. United decision. God bless you all. Good night.

--- title: Special Called Meeting City Coucil date: 2025-04-21 source: 2025-04-21_Special_Called_Meeting_City_Coucil.wav --- [0:00:40, 0:00:52]: Alright ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to start our um our special call meeting that we have this evening. This is uh Monday, April 21st, and I have 306. I'll call the meeting order. [0:00:53, 0:00:56]: And please stand for invocation, Mr. Barrett, please. [0:00:57, 0:01:17]: Let us pray. Eternal God, our Father, we come now to say thank you. Thank you again for yet another day, allowing us to see your new graces and new mercies. Lord, we ask for your wisdom and your governance and your guidance, Lord God, that you will lead us the way that you will want us to go. God, we pray now, Lord God, that as you said in your word, that the steps of a good man are indeed orderly. [0:01:17, 0:01:35]: by God. So God order us and lead us beside still waters and restore our soul and give us the wisdom, Lord God, to help govern this city and to make, Lord God, the best decision possible for the citizens here in Stockbridge. This is our prayer. In Jesus' precious holy and divine name we pray. Amen. Amen. [0:01:35, 0:01:47]: Pledge allegiance here? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation, unmighting God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:01:48, 0:01:50]: Madam Clerk Rokall, please. [0:01:51, 0:01:52]: Afternoon. [0:01:54, 0:01:55]: Present. [0:02:03, 0:02:05]: Present. Council Member Barber. [0:02:05, 0:02:05]: Mm. [0:02:07, 0:02:07]: Present. [0:02:13, 0:02:16]: Thank you, Madam Clerk. Appreciate it. Council, I need a motion to adopt the agenda, please. [0:02:17, 0:02:37]: So move. Sir a second. Second. Uh Miss Barber from Mr. Mr. Mr. Barber, all in favor, please indicate. She now's decision. Okay. What we have for new business today since the special call meeting. Council consideration approved a resolution for the estimated twenty twenty-five millage rate in accordance with H B ninety two and HB five eighty-one. Frank Balanzi, sir. [0:02:37, 0:02:45]: And ladies and gentlemen, uh Mr. Wall, Financial Advisor, is online. He's on video, so he can hear us and we'll be able to speak if need be. [0:02:49, 0:02:51]: Frank, the show is yours, sir. [0:03:01, 0:03:21]: Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. Um this year twenty twenty five because of the HB five eighty one, we were required in a taxing municipal government to provide an estimate of rawback. [0:03:21, 0:03:22]: Right. [0:03:23, 0:03:28]: And that one we did submit to the county? [0:03:28, 0:03:30]: Then the governor had a [0:03:31, 0:03:38]: an amendment that brought in from five eighty one into H B ninety two. [0:03:38, 0:03:45]: And H B ninety two requires the municipal government to officially [0:03:46, 0:03:50]: adopt the estimated rollback. [0:03:52, 0:04:12]: This does not affect our tax process that we do every year. After the budget, we have to see how much money we are going to raise. That is going to happen. But what we are doing here today is to meet the requirement of HB 581. [0:04:11, 0:04:27]: and the HB ninety two. So we are officially adopting this to meet those two requirements, which now is one, but when tax time comes, we'll set mirror rate as the process is. [0:04:28, 0:04:48]: So what you are doing to adopt this resolution is to give me the authority to send our estimated raw marriage rate, which we have put exactly what we levied last year, which is 3.77. I have worked [0:04:48, 0:05:08]: Together with Mr. Ed, he's online just in case you need any question or you need any comments that he may have. So, all my presentation is to talk about the estimated marriage rate. But again, it does not affect what we are going to decide. [0:05:08, 0:05:10]: When that time comes, July. [0:05:11, 0:05:19]: There may be any question, comment I may answer. So yeah, no my comment is so all right now, three point seven seven is what it has been for the last two years. We're staying right there. [0:05:20, 0:05:40]: But eventually when we get into the summer months and we have some additional adjustments in the budget, it possibly could go up or go down uh slightly, it's possible. Okay. Exactly. And but obviously we'll have discussion about that and snap some uh um uh diff public readings in ru in reference to that as well. So yeah, as usual when it's the we have [0:05:39, 0:05:49]: have put on rollback, which means it's the reduced to the marriage rate because of uh increase of uh [0:05:50, 0:06:10]: Values. Yeah, because most of them the values have gone up. So the aim is to levy exactly what you left the previous year. But because of the values of they've gone up, therefore you levy more, so you have to grow back. But as you say, come that time you will. [0:06:10, 0:06:11]: who decide. [0:06:12, 0:06:19]: the governing board will decide we'll leave it where we add three point seven seven or we'll we will have draw bucket. [0:06:19, 0:06:28]: Or we have to take up depending on what our needs will be during that time to support our budget. Okay. Yeah. Well, Ms. Bobber, go ahead. [0:06:28, 0:06:48]: Have those dates for the public hearings um been set yet to adopt the military? Has that been set? They can't be set now for several reasons. You have public hearing for the sake of having public hearing, but you are required to have three public hearings if the marriage rate is there's an increase. [0:06:48, 0:07:08]: So those ones we can't set up now until we start the budget. So we we only have the public hearings if we intend to increase the millage rate. That's correct. We won't have public hearings if we intend to lower the millage rate. If you you put into law anything about [0:07:08, 0:07:27]: Have the rollback is tax increase. Even if it was still the three point seven seven, if the values have gone up and it's be it's above rollback, then it's a mirror g increase, so we need to have at least three public hearings. [0:07:27, 0:07:30]: Have those dates been scheduled yet? No. [0:07:31, 0:07:51]: Thank you, sir. Sir, for clarity on that, so everybody understands, uh, if the millage rate remains the same, technically, most of the time, that's considered a tax increase. That's true. So even if we leave the millage rate exactly the same, we would still have to have the three public hearings in order to [0:07:51, 0:08:11]: Justify that. What the state has indicated for us and for all municipality and county governments is that they want to make it clear when there is a tax increase. And uh it is need to be stated in bold letters to the community. If you leave the revenue, the millage rate the same, it is. [0:08:11, 0:08:31]: still consider a tax increase, probably a slight tax increase, but it still would be a tax increase. Now certainly I don't anticipate uh the millage rate going up. I think we've been uh trying to be consistent with that. Now it's always possibility while with the economy being what it is that you [0:08:31, 0:08:51]: may have to make adjustments, but at this time I think we should be I would be in favor of leaving it as it is. So certainly that would be my inclination uh to do that. But certainly the citizens should understand we're trying to do everything that we can to make sure that we're in compliance with the law, correct? [0:08:50, 0:09:10]: And that this is a new, as you said, a new provision that the state requires that we this is as again, it's not, it's an anticipated, what we anticipate the rollback rate to be. And then uh going forward, we still would practice the formal hearings as indicated. [0:09:10, 0:09:30]: In the previous stance. But again, the state wanted to get ahead of this and to so the public would have multiple opportunities to see what the tax rate is going to be, or even to have an indication of what the governing body might do. [0:09:30, 0:09:50]: And we are doing today because the it's required that the the governing body has to approve it by the twenty fourth of April. So today was the the appropriate day that you chose that we could meet. But you have to adopt this before the twentieth by the twentieth, twenty fourth of April. [0:09:51, 0:10:08]: Right. So certainly I think most of the other governments would be we would be doing the same would have to do the same thing as we're doing here today. But as as I've stated, my position would be to leave it as it is uh at this point, um barring any uh unforeseen changes. Yeah. [0:10:09, 0:10:12]: You have anything, sir? No, sir. Nothing to add to that. [0:10:13, 0:10:16]: Okay, so if there's no other questions, it goes right, please. [0:10:16, 0:10:24]: So I'm a little torn. Um I did not support the FY 2025 budget. [0:10:25, 0:10:30]: I support HB five. [0:10:30, 0:10:31]: Eighty three. [0:10:33, 0:10:33]: I [0:10:34, 0:10:39]: Do not support leaving the military as it currently is or what it was last year. [0:10:39, 0:10:43]: I'd much rather see us decrease the miller rate. [0:10:43, 0:10:47]: But of course we won't make that decision until yes. Right. [0:10:48, 0:10:56]: So um Torn, I know that this meeting specifically is r in regards to the resolution to approve. [0:10:56, 0:10:57]: The support of the [0:10:58, 0:10:59]: H B. [0:11:00, 0:11:05]: Five eighty one and H B and H B ninety two. Ninety two. Yes, ma'am. [0:11:06, 0:11:11]: But this the way the resolution is written, it says this is a estimated [0:11:12, 0:11:19]: It's estimated. It is just estimated. It's required to meet those requirements. It's just an that's why it is not [0:11:20, 0:11:26]: Exact but it's unestimated. That's why it will not be when that time comes we'll make the real one. [0:11:29, 0:11:36]: Okay. Um well I can support approving this as an estimate as long as that is included in the motion. [0:11:37, 0:11:40]: Whoever decides to move forward with the motion. [0:11:41, 0:11:41]: Okay. [0:11:42, 0:11:43]: Um mayor for [0:11:43, 0:11:53]: Yes, ma'am, go ahead. I'd like to make a motion. Go ahead. I'd like to make a motion to approve the resolution for the estimated twenty twenty five millage rate. [0:11:53, 0:11:55]: in accordance with [0:11:55, 0:11:57]: H B ninety two. [0:11:58, 0:12:00]: N H B five eighty one. [0:12:02, 0:12:05]: Sorry. Okay, Mr. Alzheimer's second emotion. All in favor, please. Okay. I'm sorry. [0:12:06, 0:12:12]: I wanted to um also because we haven't scheduled the public hearings. [0:12:13, 0:12:14]: To adopt the military. [0:12:15, 0:12:17]: I wanted to include that in my motion. [0:12:18, 0:12:28]: The public hearings, the three or two? We don't have any specific dates for that, but you just mentioned that we'll do that a little later on. It has to happen sometime this summer. But I wanna include that staff will [0:12:28, 0:12:31]: Provide us with those dates. [0:12:31, 0:12:36]: But if you include that, you can't include without knowing what mirage rate will be. [0:12:38, 0:12:39]: We don't know yet. [0:12:41, 0:13:01]: Yeah, four. Okay. Okay. What standby. Yes, sir. Go ahead, please. No, I was just gonna add that it'll be difficult to add both of those in the motion together because they're gonna kinda act in in separate separate components of legislation. So I think that's two motions instead of one. I get what you're saying. [0:13:01, 0:13:05]: [785.2, 788.2]: The mill it's second, if you were to do that. [0:13:08, 0:13:15]: I'll leave it as is then. Okay. Okay. Since Ms. Gance joined us, uh uh Miss Holliday, could you read back the motion, please? [0:13:22, 0:13:25]: accordance with H B ninety two and H B five eighty one. [0:13:26, 0:13:32]: Okay. That's your motion is be second by Mr. Alexander. So you understand what it is. This has to be all in favor, please indicate. [0:13:33, 0:13:38]: Does it stay insane? Yeah, y yes, it's three point seven seven. At this point, it's estimated three seven seven. At this point. At this point. [0:13:38, 0:13:58]: We're not actually setting it at this point. No, no, but not. Okay. On favor with the motion, please indicate. Okay, so unanimous decision. Thank you very much. Okay, so uh and that takes part of the resolution piece that we that we have to s they have to sign and send on to the to the government. Okay. Uh [0:13:58, 0:14:02]: State government. Okay. Thank you. Now you got something else you want to do, ma'am? [0:14:03, 0:14:07]: I mean we're good we're we're good there? All right, so we're good. Then all acts out. I need a motion to end our meeting. [0:14:08, 0:14:12]: Summer. Is there a second? Second. I'm Mr. Second. I'm very pleasing to keep. [0:14:12, 0:14:14]: United City. God bless you. Good night. [0:14:15, 0:14:15]: Done. [0:14:25, 0:14:25]: So [0:14:26, 0:14:28]: So I'm good to go. Thank you all very much. [0:14:28, 0:14:31]: All right, so we we did all that so you didn't say it, so.