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--- title: December 19 2017 Work Session Meeting date: 2017-12-19 source: 2017-12-19_December_19_2017_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:08, 0:00:27]: At this time I'm going to call the December 19th, 2017, 6 p.m. meeting of the Stockbridge City Council to order. And at this time, um I'm gonna take personal uh pleasure here calling on my son Scott Gilbert to ask him if he would come up and uh give our invitation this evening. [0:00:29, 0:00:35]: And after he opens us with prayer, uh please remain standing for the pledge to the flag. [0:00:40, 0:00:44]: Good evening. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Let's all bow our heads, please. [0:00:45, 0:01:05]: Dear Heavenly Father, we thank you for this special privilege tonight. We thank you for these people that are here as leaders of our city, of our hometown. And we just ask you to give them wisdom, justice, and moderation, as our state pledge says, in doing the business of the city. We uh also ask that you would uh guide and protect the city. [0:01:05, 0:01:25]: us through the holiday seasons and all the busy traffic that we deal with and we just also ask that you would uh get everybody home tonight safely and that we will enjoy our holidays. But again we thank you for these these fine citizens and the and the leaders of our city here tonight. Thank you so much and and uh thank you for the opportunity you allowed me to be here tonight as well. [0:01:25, 0:01:31]: in my hometown, which I love so much. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. [0:01:33, 0:01:45]: United States of America and to Broadway which is stands on a nation, undeveloped, and invisible justice world. [0:01:50, 0:01:55]: At this time we're gonna ask our clerk if she will to have the evening roll call. [0:01:57, 0:01:58]: Councilman Alexander. [0:01:59, 0:02:01]: Councilman Blount, Mayor Neal. [0:02:01, 0:02:05]: Present. Mayor Pro Tam Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. [0:02:06, 0:02:15]: Councilwoman Robinson. Present. Mayor Neal, you have a quorum. Thank you. At this time I need to uh ask for a motion to amend the agenda [0:02:16, 0:02:18]: I mean rather to adopt the agenda. [0:02:19, 0:02:20]: Don't move. [0:02:21, 0:02:24]: We have a motion to adopt. Do we have a second? [0:02:25, 0:02:30]: We have a motion and a second to uh adopt the agenda. Is there any discussion? [0:02:31, 0:02:33]: If not, all in favor? [0:02:34, 0:02:45]: Thank you. At this time we're just going to call attention for a review of minutes for the following meetings, 1113 and for our work session 1128. [0:02:45, 0:03:05]: At this time, Madam Clerk, do we have any uh comments from the public? There are no public comments. No public comments tonight. Okay, in that case we're gonna call forward our public works director, Deshus Aaron, and ask him to give us some uh old business updates starting with item number one regarding city hall heating and air. [0:03:05, 0:03:06]: [190.7, 207.9]: Thank you, Madam Mayor and Council. We're still at the same point we were at last meeting. We're still developing the scope of work so that we can build this project out for the repair or and our replacement of the H-SBAC system at City Hall and Merrill Manders. [0:03:29, 0:03:49]: Okay. Um having heard that now we're gonna get uh an update on our municipal court renovations. Yes madam mayor, they're still in the process of developing the scope of work for the remediation work at the uh municipal court building and once we get that completed then we'll put out an RFP the to get [0:03:49, 0:03:50]: The uh [0:03:50, 0:03:52]: Municipal court building back in service. [0:03:53, 0:04:13]: All right, thank you. Now, oh, do you have a question? Yes, I do. Okay, thank you. Uh d you said scope of work. Okay, so you have any idea when we may receive that? I mean an uh an industrial hygienist came and did a walkthrough on December the 6th. He said two weeks after he uh finished this walkthrough, he would be developed the scope. [0:04:13, 0:04:25]: scope of work, but as we know it's the holiday time and things are probably going to slow down, so I'll touch bases with them tomorrow morning to see where we stand on getting that scope of work so we can get that project bidded out. [0:04:26, 0:04:46]: Any other questions? Okay. Uh in that case, let's move on to council consideration to approve the twenty eighteen water sewer rates. Uh yes, madam mayor. Uh the city manager and I said I know had a discussion in reference to the to the water rates and one of the things we want to be mindful that the water and sewer [0:04:46, 0:05:06]: Uh enterprise funds are self-sustaining and able to support themselves. So we're recommending Henry County's recommend they're passing a two percent rate increase. We're recommending a three and a half percent, which would be one point five percent of what Henry County is doing so that we can ensure that we're uh [0:05:06, 0:05:26]: able to maintain these systems. We're gonna be taking money out of fund balance to finish paying for the uh AMI metering system. We're also using fund balance to make a difference in the budget this year and we just want to make sure that the utility is able to support itself without having to get money from the general fund. [0:05:26, 0:05:29]: fund or continue to dip in the fund balance. [0:05:30, 0:05:33]: Okay. Any questions on that? [0:05:34, 0:05:36]: Do we need a vote on that particular item? [0:05:37, 0:05:38]: Mr. Aaron. [0:05:38, 0:05:40]: I have a question, Mayor. [0:05:40, 0:05:51]: Okay, let me find out first and then we'll come back to the question. We will need to vote on it. All right, in in that case, uh do you want to ask your question before we call for the motion? [0:05:52, 0:06:00]: Yes, please. Okay, Mr. Blount. Only um because we talked about doing a um cost analysis for the uh for the water and sewer. [0:06:02, 0:06:22]: Yes. Before any increase and I want us to address that because if we unless we do a cost analysis on it, then we don't have any hard numbers to go by for me to to approve any increase uh for the citizens if we don't have any hard hard numbers right now without a cost analysis for services. [0:06:22, 0:06:42]: I I sent an email to the to the mayor and council earlier and and mentioned um a water rate analysis which would be a very in-depth um examination of our current system and it would analyze uh revenue projections, demand, depreciation, and all of those factors that go into sustaining [0:06:42, 0:06:47]: a water system and uh it is something that I would recommend [0:06:47, 0:07:07]: um that we uh undertake and um uh certainly with the council's um direction we certainly want to do that. Um that would give excuse me that would give you a um a much more in-depth analysis of the current system and what it will take to sustain the system over [0:07:07, 0:07:08]: Yeah. [0:07:08, 0:07:11]: Uh which obviously would be connected to [0:07:11, 0:07:20]: [440.5, 441.9]: It will let us know [0:07:22, 0:07:29]: if the rate that we're trying to raise it w uh w the rate that we're wanting to raise it to to three point two [0:07:30, 0:07:32]: With that increased fund balance. [0:07:33, 0:07:38]: or not or will that or where we at where we're at now, is that sustainable? [0:07:39, 0:07:53]: for what we're doing and we don't know that right now but we're gonna but I I couldn't approve three point I w I wouldn't approve three point two uh two percent uh height and we don't have an analysis that is is uh justified to do it. [0:07:54, 0:08:05]: Well, my concern right now is within this year you're gonna take out over a half a million. You're gonna take out five hundred thousand dollars for your fund balance from your fund balance. [0:08:05, 0:08:19]: uh over 250,000 to pay for the installation of the AMI metering system and also you're taking another$300,000 out of your fund balance for the budget, for the FY 2018 budget. [0:08:20, 0:08:40]: Yeah, but that's not a recurring, that's a one-time removal for to pay for those uh for that. I'm talking about the sustainability is those recurring rates and if we'll raise the water bill 3.2, what what effect would that be for sustainability in the future and we wouldn't know that unless we have a cost analysis done. [0:08:40, 0:08:52]: Like I said, one of my concerns is you're using over$300,000 this year fund balance, so you've got a shortfall somewhere in order for you to be dipping into your reserves to balance your budget. [0:08:52, 0:08:55]: And and that's my concern. [0:08:55, 0:09:03]: Okay, let's move forward. Do I hear a motion at this time that we accept the recommendation of our public works director? [0:09:05, 0:09:12]: On the issue of the uh water and sewer rates um increasing three point five percent, do I hear a motion? [0:09:13, 0:09:23]: I make a motion there. All right, we have a motion. Do I hear a second? Second. We have a motion and a second. We've had some discussion. Anybody else on the council have any other things they want to add? [0:09:24, 0:09:26]: If not, all in favor. [0:09:28, 0:09:33]: Okay. We have uh three yeses. We [0:09:33, 0:09:37]: Do we have an abstain or no from the other two? Would you like to speak up? [0:09:38, 0:09:42]: We have a no from Mr. Blount. We have a no from Ms. Gantt. [0:09:43, 0:09:53]: The motion did pass. All right, now we're going to move forward and go into a public hearing to discuss um STKR investments. [0:09:54, 0:09:59]: And that will be brought to us by our community development director, Camilla Moore. [0:10:02, 0:10:04]: I'm sorry. [0:10:05, 0:10:06]: Oh, sounds good. [0:10:07, 0:10:10]: Could we just put you on pause just for a minute? [0:10:10, 0:10:16]: Um I overshot the deal. I need our attorney to come up. He's got a presentation. [0:10:18, 0:10:38]: Good evening, Madam Mayor and City Council. Merry Christmas. Um you have before you a uh policy that was discussed at the last council meeting and was was tabled. No action was taken on it. Um but this is uh I'll just read the proposed policy change. [0:10:38, 0:10:58]: because it speaks for itself, but it's related to inadvertent releases of information related to economic development projects or undue or inappropriate political involvement in economic development projects. So the policy is aimed to avoid that. The policy says as follows. [0:10:58, 0:11:18]: City staff is requested to not release any information to any council members pertaining to pending development applications or economic development inquiries unless a vote on such matters is required of the mayor and council. In such cases, all information shall be conveyed to the entire mayor and council concurrently. So that's the proposed policy. [0:11:18, 0:11:22]: and uh it's just back before you for any potential action. [0:11:23, 0:11:31]: Okay, we've heard the presentation from our uh our attorney Mike Williams on item number four. Do I hear a motion? [0:11:38, 0:11:48]: All right, we have a motion from Mr. Blount on item number four, council consideration to approve development projects policy. Uh do I hear a second? [0:11:48, 0:11:52]: Second. I hear a motion and a second. Is there any discussion? [0:11:54, 0:11:57]: Okay. We have two yeses to my right, starting with Mr. Blount. [0:12:00, 0:12:07]: This policy is well needed because in the past we've had information going out that didn't need to go out. [0:12:08, 0:12:24]: time so I I I appreciate this being recognized because as long as we see to move forward like we want to move forward and strategy what's best for the citizens and what they're input and moving things in the time we have and holding back things in the time. We need something. [0:12:26, 0:12:30]: All right, thank you. Uh how about Mr. Alexander has comment? [0:12:30, 0:12:50]: Uh yes, thank you so much, Mayor. We had a in-depth discussion on this uh last week. Uh basically this policy is not w worth the paper that it's written on because uh what really happens is when you have development agreements, phone calls, contacts, those [0:12:50, 0:13:10]: Every last one of those are subject to open records requests. So if some if a development happened to contact Stockbridge or a business person happened to inquire via email or via any type of communication, and if they applied for a building permit, all of that information [0:13:10, 0:13:30]: information is relevant information that is readily available to any member of the public. What this policy proposes to do is to prevent council members who are serving from properly serving their individual constituents. Let's say [0:13:30, 0:13:37]: the project that's on uh tonight, which is the Campground Road Extension Project. [0:13:37, 0:13:57]: If this policy were to pass, the staff would not be able to uh relay any of that information to me as a council member, the mayor, or any of us, because uh it would be deemed uh unnecessary. But members of the public, uh the business community, [0:13:57, 0:14:17]: or any individual period, including the council members, would be able to request that. So if this policy did pass, like it is, in its current form, what would happen is the first what is prohibited from being given to council members or any of us, we simply would have to [0:14:17, 0:14:22]: do an open records request and that information would be relayed to us. [0:14:22, 0:14:42]: Uh just like it would be for any of you. Uh personally, uh just like uh if you go to Henry County and Henry County uh has building permits or counts information related to them, they readily uh disperse that information to any members of the public in any of the [0:14:42, 0:14:44]: Yeah. [0:14:45, 0:15:05]: This policy just seems totally backwards that you would have a uh you would have the staff with knowledge of developments and projects that were coming to the city of Stockbridge and that you would not have the council members or the elected body aware of those potential projects. [0:15:05, 0:15:25]: Personally speaking for me, I am a realtor and I have access to data that no one else on this council would actually have. Pushing forward with that would put the other four members and the mayor in a position where there would be information readily available to the public. [0:15:25, 0:15:30]: public that the public would not that council members would not have access to. [0:15:31, 0:15:43]: I'm going to have that information on any development that comes before us twelve months to six months out. But this is not about me. It's about the next person to hold this seat. [0:15:43, 0:15:48]: 'Cause when they have a development that is proposed right next to their neighborhood [0:15:48, 0:16:08]: They might not have any information on it to relate to the public. And that is a problem. That is a serious problem. So passing a policy that would basically require us or any member up here to issue a uh an open records request to get the same information so it will not [0:16:08, 0:16:28]: Do anything to prohibit us from getting that information. We just have to do an open records request just like anybody else would have to do. So basically the policy is worthless. It's not written worth the paper that it's written on. And I also take an affront to the communication because [0:16:28, 0:16:48]: I can look at every staff member in this building and so can everybody else sitting up here and said, I don't question their integrity at all because no one has given any a member of this board any information that I'm aware of and if that is the case we should deal that with that a staff member. But [0:16:48, 0:17:00]: uh none of that has occurred. So I stand 100% behind the integrity of the staff and the confidentiality of inf any information that is relayed. [0:17:02, 0:17:22]: All right, thank you, Mr. Alexander. Are there other comments? Ma Madam Mayor, if if I may, Ms. Moore wanted to make a statement in support of the policy, but if I could clarify, um it was suggested that the zoning matter tonight, information about that would not be available to Mayor and Council. And that's not true. [0:17:22, 0:17:36]: under the policy because that requires a vote of the council. And so that would be information we would certainly be providing to you all leading up to the meeting. So I just want to make that clarification and let Ms. Moore make a statement. [0:17:36, 0:17:56]: Right. Uh I just want to talk to the intent of what I think this is trying to get after. And if it needs to be amended to get to the intent, I think at the end of the day that's what staff is trying to achieve. In my discussions with the development community, and this is what you hired me to do, there is sensitivity in the development community. [0:17:56, 0:17:59]: community concerned who the anchors will be. [0:18:00, 0:18:20]: When a when a owner of land comes in, he's speculating and he's attempting to get tenants to go into the buildings, into those space. And so a lot of times there's a lot of negotiations in place. Simply because someone gets a permit does not mean that the development is coming. [0:18:19, 0:18:39]: It just means that they're permitted. There are people who permit stuff, a couple of subdivisions, and it's been four or five years, and some of it still haven't happened. So what the intent of this is, is to protect the integrity of the development community so that we don't spoof those companies and businesses that [0:18:39, 0:18:55]: desire to come into the city of Scott Bridge because it's the art of the game in trying to get development. We met with someone today, and we had met with them two weeks ago and they said, look, this is a very sensitive deal. [0:18:55, 0:19:15]: We want to come. But the owner does not want to release the information in terms of who the potential tenant is because we're still in negotiation back and forth. Well today we met with them and they brought the individuals because we did not divulge that information and we're attempting to [0:19:15, 0:19:32]: to work out the deal. So what I would suggest, you're correct, citizens can do open rec requests, but there has to be something to trigger for them to do it. I don't think staff has any issue with you having the information. [0:19:33, 0:19:53]: What we would like to say is because you are elected officials, if a deal is going to be spoofed, if a deal breaks down, let it not be said that it broke down because one of you shared the information. If someone from the outside wants to do an open records request and they want [0:19:53, 0:20:13]: want to put it out there on the block, so be it. But it's your deal. It is your development community. And so if we need to change the the wording of this to get to that point where we can agree we will give you the information, but could you protect the integrity of the development [0:20:12, 0:20:32]: community by not sharing it until the final permit that says they're going vertical occurs. And and and that was only the intent, Mr. Alexander. And that was based on the conversations that have I had. And as you know as we go through with the Jodico project, it's just sensible [0:20:32, 0:20:39]: sensitive information when you're trying to move projects forward. And I just want to add that. However you want to make it work. [0:20:39, 0:20:59]: Thank you, Ms. Moore. Is there further discussion from the council? I have uh uh one from uh Miss Robinson. Thank you, Mayor. Um thank you for clarifying that. I wish you we could have had that at the last meeting um because we probably wouldn't have came back this week. But my only concern [0:20:59, 0:21:19]: you've just clarified that I just don't want to be an elected official and something is taking place that I'm aware of, but if you have another piece, I can't serve my citizens to well we can work together. I just don't want that to take place. So if communication is going to be there, then I'm okay with it. But [0:21:19, 0:21:39]: when you said kind of wording it differently, I would like a little of that in there. Um because I don't as an elected official, I don't want to go to staff and I'm just said, okay, I can't give you that information. Because I'm not the one that will broadcast things. And I'm just saying, but I've got to be able to serve my constituents. [0:21:39, 0:21:41]: Um [0:21:41, 0:21:47]: Because like you said, Attorney Williams, sometimes you can create bad legislation. [0:21:47, 0:21:48]: Yeah. [0:21:48, 0:22:06]: It could be out there. And I don't want this to be a part of that when we're not able to because a lot of us on this council, we do different things. So I'm not knocking what my other colleagues doing. I'm just speaking for myself on what I'm doing in the community. So long as that is open for me, I'm okay with it. [0:22:07, 0:22:09]: Okay. Any other comments? More and more. [0:22:10, 0:22:25]: Again, we can talk and we can try to shelter this all day. But this policy does not do anything behind making the in uh information available. It still must be legally available. [0:22:25, 0:22:45]: through open records requests and the information, any contact that is made. All this policy really does is prevent the council members who are up here from serving. Personally, I'm gonna have that information twelve to six months ahead of time, whether I get it [0:22:45, 0:22:57]: anybody. I have never gotten any information from the city staff. But again, I want you to answer that question for me. Does this polic once we sign this policy and we approve it [0:22:58, 0:23:18]: That information is still available through open records requests, is that correct? Certain aspects could be available if it's not uh privileged by one of the various Well unless it's acquisition, right? We always acquisition would have to be but everything else would have to be in there. You you won't know who the tenants are. You won't know that. All you would know is that [0:23:18, 0:23:35]: But w personally I don't need to know who the tenants were. I'm gonna already know twelve to six months ahead of time. But the fact of the matter is I've like I said, my argument is not for me personally because I'm going to know that information that you just said. But [0:23:35, 0:23:55]: Post council, post meet, you're not going to know. And then again, like you say, w when we s when we see these permits come to us, right? Now you will tell us leading up to that, right? But if there's a major development coming to our particular area, don't we need more [0:23:55, 0:24:08]: Within a week or two or maybe th before we can alert the public. The public if someone's interested in it, maybe they should know. Well let me give an example on Papados. When Papadose was supposed to come to South Lake [0:24:08, 0:24:24]: Um when you know a couple of our municipalities in that county was working with the mall to bring Papados in. And when we finally talked to Papados, they said that the public got out of head of Papados. [0:24:24, 0:24:29]: And they felt that what happened should have been kept [0:24:30, 0:24:40]: between certain entities before it was released. Now I I I don't know who they were relating to. I'm just telling you what the conversation we were told. And Papadose is not there today. [0:24:41, 0:24:54]: Again, I do believe that as elected officials, if a project comes in, I feel that as your community development director, when I issue that permit, the says they're going vertical. [0:24:54, 0:24:57]: then you can tell your public that it's going to happen. [0:24:58, 0:25:00]: When you tell them that Papadose is coming, [0:25:01, 0:25:21]: Even if they pull one permit, that doesn't mean they're coming. So you build an expectation within your community that something is coming. All I'm saying is that let that come from someone that doesn't sit where you sit. Because when they hear you present it, they think it's factual. [0:25:20, 0:25:40]: And what I would rather do as your director and as your staff is to give you the facts so that when you tell your constituents that Papa Dose is coming, you can say our staff issue the final permit that allows them to go vertical, and in 30 days you will see PAS. [0:25:40, 0:26:00]: That's what I'm saying. It's only what we give you and what you disseminate as the elected body. And we want to protect you. And we want the public to know that when you speak, you speak in a manner that is factual and the expectations that you're building are reality. And that's the only [0:26:00, 0:26:09]: intent, however you want to amend it to do that, but I just wanted you to know the intent of why we're bringing this forward. Response. [0:26:10, 0:26:14]: Um questionary if you don't have to [0:26:15, 0:26:35]: With what you're presenting here today, I understand because when you have businesses that want to come to our community, no matter how great or small, a lot of time the confidentiality of those businesses should be upheld because the transition should go the way the business owner wanted to go and not dictated by any council member. That's why I'm [0:26:35, 0:26:54]: I'm okay with this. We'll get the information. We'll have the information. Doesn't matter who gets it first. Our concern should be on the transition of the business that want to be located here in our community. And I think this protects that without politics being a role in it. So I'm for this because I want to protect the businesses that want to come to this community. [0:26:55, 0:27:04]: Thank you, Mr. Bunt. No other discussion at this point. Um do I hear we have a motion, we have a second, we've had our discussion. All in favor? [0:27:06, 0:27:09]: Okay. We have one non voter. [0:27:10, 0:27:12]: Are you voting for it? No, I'm polynomial. [0:27:13, 0:27:33]: Okay, he's opposed. Thank you. All right, thank you so much. At this time we're going to go into public hearing. We need to bring this more back at this time, and this is regarding item number nine R Z-17-25-S, um STKR Investments. Yes, ma'am, Mayor and members of the council. This item was [0:27:33, 0:27:53]: Before you last week in the form of a public hearing, and it was held so that staff could get some additional information from the property owner and their representative. The analysis that you have before you tonight outlines the recommendations that we work with with the applicant in terms of [0:27:52, 0:28:12]: This development going forward. We were able to come to an agreement on all of the new conditions except one, and I would like an opportunity to explain to you that particular item. And I think the applicant wants an opportunity to express their position as well. All of the items are [0:28:12, 0:28:18]: are in agreement between the applicant and the city except for on the second page. [0:28:20, 0:28:40]: Item A that deals with the facade of the particular units. Staff has put in a condition that requires the applicant to build the single family detached units in compliance with the ordinance that you have today. That particular ordinance basically states [0:28:40, 0:29:00]: for this particular class, the MUD, MUND, that all of the homes have to be brick, stucco, or stone. What the applicant has asked is that to be more consistent with what is in the area, to do three sides [0:28:59, 0:29:06]: it of this material but be allowed to use hardy plank in the rear. [0:29:06, 0:29:26]: Um hardy plank currently is not permissible in your ordinance, so I just wanted to bring that to your attention, but did want to bring out the fact that a lot of the upscale subdivisions are three-sided with Hardy Plank in the back. Um in talking with the applicant, uh I guess [0:29:26, 0:29:46]: the concern that staff brings to you tonight is that the property is currently zoned M1, which is light industrial. So we were very excited to know that we would have an opportunity to change the land use adjacent to the upscale housing that is there. But at the end of the day when we talk to the applicant, they're [0:29:46, 0:29:52]: concern was that uh doing all of the units, all [0:29:53, 0:30:13]: the entirety of them with n not being able to use any hard hardy plank would force them to maybe change the plans and have to do more townhomes more than single families just because of the cost. So I wanted to bring that to your attention tonight. They've asked for a number of waivers and C. Uh they've asked I think she's [0:30:13, 0:30:33]: Going to ask you to allow them to do some reconsideration of if they could do hardy planking the rear. And then the other item, I, Mr. Alexander, you had a question in terms of putting in the conditions that were part of the overlay. We've had extensive conversations with [0:30:33, 0:30:53]: Hemory County G Doc. I asked them to submit a letter in writing in terms of where they were and being able to contiguously all along comply with that, and you should have that letter in your file. Based on their recommendation and based on their projections in terms of [0:30:53, 0:31:13]: terms of when the road will be completed and their intent for that particular road. They're basically saying that at this point in time and probably no time in the near future, going from four lanes to two lanes and having the meeting in the past, in the middle, that the um 10 foot pathway may not [0:31:12, 0:31:32]: Not be something that works into the scheme of things because they had already planned out the road and had already gotten the dead the the right-of-way dedication and all of that had already been in place. What staff would like to recommend is that your recommendation for us to [0:31:32, 0:31:52]: To add roads to it or even to put conditions on it as it goes beyond this development to give us an opportunity to sit down with Henry County and figure out based on the right-of-way dedication that they have how we can fit the pathway ideal and a lot of the [0:31:52, 0:32:12]: other stuff into the conditions but b because this project precedes you putting it in the overlay um to adhere to the conditions that exist now but to get together with Henry County G Doc work out those specifics and then bring those back to make the rest of that corridor [0:32:12, 0:32:15]: or a part of the overlay district. [0:32:16, 0:32:22]: Okay, we've heard the presentation. Does the applicant want to come and speak? [0:32:23, 0:32:26]: [1949.1, 1969.1]: Um hi, uh my name is Wanda Moore. I'm with Falcon Design Consultants 235 Corporate Center Drive, um suite 100, Stockbridge, Georgia. And um it's a pleasure to be before you and we appreciate you um putting us on the agenda tonight. And as an aside I just want to say how uh much [0:32:49, 0:33:09]: It's been a pleasure to work with um staff on this proposal. Our client originally came, had the property, had interest in the industrial zoning, has had calls for it to be developed industrial, and he approached us and asked, you know. [0:33:09, 0:33:20]: what we felt. Felt like contextually in this area another use might be more compatible within the jurisdiction. And [0:33:21, 0:33:26]: We told him and he has not been disappointed at all that the city of Stockbridge is um [0:33:27, 0:33:29]: very um [0:33:29, 0:33:45]: easy to work with that the requirements of the code and and what he's trying to do with the project in the area is enhance it that would be received well by the city. So I just wanted to relay that. [0:33:45, 0:33:46]: Let me catch my breath for a second. [0:33:47, 0:34:07]: And then additionally, um he would have liked to been here and was planning to be here, but with the the issues with the airport and his flight end, um he just wasn't not able to attend. But he has asked that we present um his desires to you tonight regarding in particular [0:34:07, 0:34:21]: the waiver for the exclusion of hardy plank or commonly known as cement board siding and in addition if I can read [0:34:22, 0:34:23]: Uh [0:34:25, 0:34:28]: Uh uh just to make sure I get it correct, that the um [0:34:30, 0:34:50]: that we would waive the exclusion of hardy plank and allow its uses in the as a minimum standard as follows. In the front elevation, now this differs than what Ms. Moore projected to you as far as having it only in the rear yard. [0:34:50, 0:35:10]: What he would like for you to consider is the front elevation being brick or stone with accents of hardy plank or shaped shingles or b-board in the eaves or the gables on the front elevation. And then for the sides. [0:35:10, 0:35:16]: to be minimal requirement of a brick or stone water table. [0:35:16, 0:35:35]: That's minimum. The builder could do more, but that would be a minimum. And then in the rear yard could be the all-hardy plank as Ms. Moore directed. These are the requests of how he would like to utilize the mix of products and um [0:35:35, 0:35:36]: Uh [0:35:37, 0:35:57]: And um just to provide the builders that have been showing some interest in the property the ability to meet the market, whether a homeowner um wants a certain look on the front, but it also ensures the city that they have a product that on the minimum standards [0:35:57, 0:36:17]: is higher really than what's adjacent because some of the subdivision just based on dates have some vinyl siding, have some aluminum siding, have just the brick, you know, front on the homes that are in the uh immediate area. So that's the only, I guess, [0:36:17, 0:36:24]: guess difference in how we would ask the waiver of the hardy plank to be utilized. [0:36:25, 0:36:39]: Thank thank you. Okay. Uh since we're in a public hearing, do we hear uh are there any people in the audience that are for or against anything that you've heard discussed here tonight? [0:36:42, 0:36:47]: If not, then uh we'll call Ms. Moore back to restate [0:36:48, 0:36:49]: Um [0:36:50, 0:36:53]: Motion that the board would adopt. [0:36:53, 0:37:13]: if you would restate the motion that they would be adopting. Um I I talked to Mr. Knighton. Uh I think what we would consider, depending on your your comments, is a a a motion that will say that you approve the conditions as presented to you, however to allow [0:37:13, 0:37:14]: Tchau. [0:37:14, 0:37:25]: um what she's requested on some of those units minimum and then for the remainder, the majority of those to be in compliance with the standards that set in the code. [0:37:32, 0:37:32]: I'm [0:37:33, 0:37:53]: Again, if my client were here, I know he would reiterate the same thing as far as the need to have the flexibility to integrate the hardy plank on the other three sides as you know presented tonight. At this point, if the motion is going to go forward before you guys on that um level, [0:37:53, 0:38:13]: we would ask that you table this item until we have an opportunity to have my client come and speak with staff and certain members of the council and and work this particular item out of the zoning because it's very imperative of making the single [0:38:13, 0:38:15]: family product work. [0:38:15, 0:38:29]: And worth the rezoning versus just keeping it industrial. So it's it's it's that important for the project. All right. Uh uh m Miss Gantt. Real quick, Miss um [0:38:30, 0:38:31]: More. [0:38:32, 0:38:45]: I think we were going to approve based off of your recommendations um of of the hardy plank on the ax accenting only, not on the additional sides and maybe in the bag. [0:38:47, 0:39:07]: Based off of your recommendations on what you guys were trying to do and that was the minimum and everything else would be you know, could be upgraded. Um, it didn't sound unreasonable. Sure. But if your owner's gonna come in and ask us for additional hardy plank on the other sides and everything else, I'm not gonna be susceptible to that. [0:39:07, 0:39:12]: 'Cause it's like you're asking us right now to agree to something [0:39:13, 0:39:30]: You you've given us your recommendations on what you guys wanted and I think we were prepared to make that motion in agreement with that. Okay. But if your owner comes in and asks us for some more hardy plank all over the place, it's not gonna probably not gonna work. Oh no ma'am, and I I apologize as um this is not my um [0:39:31, 0:39:51]: expertise and sometimes a public presentation that I process. However, if the council would be in agreement with the conditions and how the hardy plank element is waived as I had read, my client would be thrilled to move forward with the rezoning. [0:39:51, 0:40:11]: And I believe that's what Ms. Ms. Camilla Moore. Is that what you were stating? Let me interrupt. Let me ask, does the client prefer to table? Is staff agree with with that? Um the client would prefer for the rezoning to [0:40:11, 0:40:31]: go through tonight. However, it would be contingent upon the house product, architectural product being utilized the way it was described. On the front elevation he would use majority brick stone with accent only. [0:40:31, 0:40:35]: on the front elevation of um shaking the eaves [0:40:36, 0:40:48]: um or gables or hardy plank or uh cement board siding um and or a b board only in the eaves. On the sides he would do a minimum [0:40:48, 0:40:52]: of a water table of brick or stone. [0:40:52, 0:40:58]: And then in the rear he would do minimum all hardy board. [0:40:58, 0:41:17]: Those are minimums. And anything above that the builder obviously could do. However, those would be the minimum standards he would feel comfortable with going forward and having that as a condition of zoning and no other condition pertaining to the [0:41:18, 0:41:22]: elevations other than that. Those would be the minimum. [0:41:22, 0:41:38]: If there's any confusion up here, um we can table. If if the um council is ready to go forward, we can do that. But I want you to be sure we understand what we're voting on. [0:41:38, 0:41:41]: Mr. Blount, I think, wants to make a motion. [0:41:43, 0:41:59]: I like to make a motion to table it because I don't want to prove anything with contingencies in it. I want that when the builder gets here that we're precise on what we're agreeing to. So because there are contingencies to it and you yourself saying you would you would like it to be tabled and I would like that [0:42:00, 0:42:09]: him to be here because I I don't want um Sure and I I appreciate our preferences is for it to be run rezoned with the conditions outlined as as stated. However um [0:42:10, 0:42:30]: Uh moving forward if uh for uh clarity my client has no issue to table and bring before you guys again and just to assure he would will not move forward and ask anything less than what was stated here tonight as public record for the elevations. Well with that I'd like to make a motion. [0:42:30, 0:42:47]: if you would mayor to that. Okay, we have a motion by Mr. John Blount that we're gonna table this for the moment and it'll come back at our next meeting, I'm sure. And I need a second for that motion. We have a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion at this time? [0:42:47, 0:43:07]: Yes. Mr. Ford. Yes. Actually I was in line initially with uh Councilwoman Gantt because you what you proposed in your adjustment uh was fine with me. Um but uh if we're gonna table this and and for the the the actual builder to come back and present, that's fine. [0:43:07, 0:43:22]: But I was willing to say make the variances now. But uh we'll we'll uh obviously it's gonna be tabled. Yeah, our uh his desire is for it to be clear and for the council to be comfortable with the. Thank you very much. Any other discussion at this time? [0:43:22, 0:43:42]: I just want to make it clear, I'm not uh I'm not approving anything less than what we already have. Personally, I would like to see the three side brick with the uh party plank only in the rear. That's what I would like to see. We pass these standards uh in this community to raise [0:43:42, 0:43:52]: ease the standards. That's what we did. This is a request to to lower the standards that we have set for our community. Now personally um I [0:43:53, 0:43:59]: feel what has happened here uh because when I moved in here in uh two thousand and four [0:44:00, 0:44:12]: Uh I looked at my house here and I looked at the same builder who was building all the way over all around the city of Atlanta. Uh I did a thorough inspection on the house in Cobb County. [0:44:12, 0:44:22]: Which had brick and hardy plank. But see, because the standard was so low here in Henry County, they allowed'em to put vinyl siding on the house. [0:44:23, 0:44:43]: That's why we proposed raising these standards to where they are now so that that so that that does not happen to another homeowner in our community and that the values as a neighbor, I would understand those composites would raise the property values in our area. [0:44:43, 0:44:54]: uh in that particular area because I am a neighbor. That's what we do. Uh we we endeavor to raise the standard for Stockbridge. We accomplished that. [0:44:54, 0:45:12]: But and you can understand that um builders and developers are gonna come before us wanting us to water down or tear down uh the standard that we have set. But if we pass the three-side brick, then every time somebody comes in here and we roll it back, what good does it do? [0:45:13, 0:45:27]: So I'm very I was very much prepared to uh move forward like Councilwoman Gantt and uh Mr. Ford with what we have, but I am totally opposed to uh watering that down or lowering that standard. [0:45:27, 0:45:35]: Thank you so much for those comments. Uh at this time we're going to move forward with the vote. We have a motion to table. All in favor? [0:45:36, 0:45:38]: Okay, thank you so much. We'll see you back. [0:45:39, 0:45:59]: In a couple of weeks. All right, at this time uh we're in public hearing on on behalf of adoption of the city budget. This will be, I think, our fourth presentation on this budget, and I understand we have one minor change, and other than that it's the same thing you've heard the last three presentations. [0:45:59, 0:46:00]: Thank you. [0:46:00, 0:46:03]: This time we'll call on our um [0:46:05, 0:46:09]: Manager Randy Knighton and our lead accountant Rashonda Favors to present. [0:46:12, 0:46:32]: All right, uh Mayor and Council, thank you. Um we are here again, uh believe it's the fourth reading uh for the proposed 2018 budget. Um what you have seen in the previous hearings is exactly uh the same with the exception of one change, a minor change of$2,000 proposed increase for uh advertising. [0:46:32, 0:46:41]: for city events. And that's the only proposed change, at least from staff's perspective regarding the 2018 budget. [0:46:41, 0:47:01]: I would also uh draw your attention to um I gave you a proposed organizational chart, which is very similar to what you have seen. There were some clarifications made on it. Um it's uh a bit larger and has some color distinctions as well, uh relates to um just a few minor changes on that related to uh how the [0:47:01, 0:47:02]: Yeah. [0:47:02, 0:47:05]: Um assistant. [0:47:07, 0:47:14]: Do you have a question? Yeah I do because there's nothing out there for the public to take a look at. Okay. We're we're we're getting that. Okay. [0:47:14, 0:47:16]: Oh thank you. [0:47:18, 0:47:20]: What about hold on one second? [0:47:20, 0:47:40]: There we go. That's what we've seen in previous hearings. Um and uh re related to the organizational chart, um that is um uh essenti in essence what you have seen previously. There are a couple of uh subtle changes to it. But uh yes. They can't see it. Okay. [0:47:40, 0:47:41]: All right. [0:48:15, 0:48:17]: Hold on one second. [0:48:23, 0:48:24]: All right. [0:48:24, 0:48:33]: Um again that is um uh what has been viewed uh previously with the exception of you know the one change of the two thousand dollar increase from the uh [0:48:33, 0:48:34]: Um [0:48:34, 0:48:54]: uh previous hearings related to um uh city events and advertising for city events. Uh the organizational chart that you have before you draws distinctions between the various departments for the city and there are a couple of subtle changes there. One with respect to the assistant city manager position and how that flows with the entire organization. [0:48:54, 0:49:12]: And also then the project manager position, which is placed in community development department. Everything else related to the organizational chart is essentially the same. Again, it provides color distinctions and probably is something more [0:49:12, 0:49:18]: visibly uh aesthetic in terms of uh making certain distinctions. [0:49:19, 0:49:23]: Um again this is the proposed 2018 budget. [0:49:26, 0:49:45]: At this time I think Mr. Knight and all of our council members certainly have had opportunity to study this several weeks in a row and um I would like to at this time call for a motion f to accept the budget as presented. Do I hear that motion? We have a motion. Beg your pardon? Oh that's right. We're not [0:49:46, 0:49:57]: We're moving that to the next time to vote. Okay, at this time, if there's no other question of Ms. Rashonda before she leaves, or are you gonna present further? [0:49:58, 0:50:13]: No, you're finished. Okay. All right. Any questions, Mr. Ford? Clarification. Just want to make sure that in reference to the training budget, if we increase things for this new uh we had this conversation before in reference to the uh [0:50:14, 0:50:34]: There was a question about the National League of Cities. I think I sent sent you an email about National League of Cities and the current training budget is at twenty thousand. And if there was a desire to attend some of those conferences and so forth in the coming year, um you may want to consider uh increasing uh that budget. Uh [0:50:34, 0:50:34]: Slightly. [0:50:36, 0:50:40]: But it is not currently here in this proposed budget. [0:50:42, 0:50:47]: If you would like to increase it, uh uh increase that line item, you can certainly make that amendment. [0:50:48, 0:51:08]: And so s what's the recommendation uh that uh that we need to increase it to? And if we do that, will we still remain of course uh within our parameters here? You you would remain with a balanced budget. Um if I were going to make a recommendation to you, um that recommendation uh would be um uh ten thousand dollars. [0:51:08, 0:51:08]: Yeah. [0:51:09, 0:51:09]: [3070.0, 3070.8]: Correct. [0:51:12, 0:51:17]: Yeah, okay, the and the current line item has what in it now, sir? Twenty thousand. [0:51:19, 0:51:20]: Well some twenty and thirty. [0:51:21, 0:51:24]: Or something uh something different if that's your desire. [0:51:30, 0:51:37]: Yes ma'am, Ms. Robinson. So basic basically you're saying the ten, so if it's there, if it's it's needed, it'll be there and it's not. [0:51:38, 0:51:41]: It won't be used. [0:51:41, 0:51:47]: Mayor Neal. Mayor Neal. Yes Mayor any clarification if the ten thousand is [0:51:47, 0:51:54]: Training or travel and training? Travel and training. A combination of both. Is that five and five? [0:51:54, 0:51:55]: Yes. [0:51:58, 0:52:01]: Have a question, Mayor, um City ma madam clerk. [0:52:02, 0:52:14]: Okay, you've you've heard the presentation, you've asked the questions. Apparently if you're going to add the ten, it's gonna go in as five and five, five for travel, five for [0:52:15, 0:52:17]: Training. Is that correct? [0:52:17, 0:52:20]: Is that what we're hearing? Yes. Okay, is everybody good with that? [0:52:20, 0:52:21]: Oh of course. [0:52:22, 0:52:42]: I I'm not I wanna make sure that I understand one thing, is that is that what what exactly does the addition we we're increasing the budget basically by half. So what exactly are exactly are we gaining um in order to increase the budget uh uh some ten or five thousand dollars that we're giving? [0:52:42, 0:52:59]: getting that we're not already getting from the Georgia Municipal Association because this would seem to indicate that this is just a payment for travel to a conference, maybe in DC or Sh Charlotte or wherever they're gonna hold it at. Why is that even necessary? [0:53:00, 0:53:20]: Well then that may be something that the council may want to discuss. However, the National League of Cities of course is a national organization comprised of cities from across the nation and would provide opportunities to uh gain information, knowledge um from uh from a from a national perspective of other cities across the country and also from [0:53:20, 0:53:37]: from a federal perspective as well. So in that regard there would be likely an enhanced and broader and diverse opportunity for training and uh for uh knowledge input for uh the council. [0:53:41, 0:53:42]: Okay. [0:53:42, 0:53:45]: Any other questions? Mr. Blount. [0:53:46, 0:54:03]: I had it written on my on the budget packet that I had, but I don't have it with me. I'm trying to find it in here. Um we approved and one of the things that I I brought to even you, Mr. Williams, and I brought to the youth council, we've approved$18,000 next year for the youth council. [0:54:03, 0:54:07]: That's proposed, right. Proposed eighteen thousand for the youth council. [0:54:08, 0:54:09]: Which is in the budget here. [0:54:10, 0:54:15]: So if there's I don't see any justification for that because [0:54:15, 0:54:21]: The amount of$5,800 was approved by the Council for the National League of Cities. [0:54:22, 0:54:41]: which twenty eight hundred was used for the National League of Cities. So with six thousand forty dollars in the budget at the time that that twenty eight was used, then you're talking about nine thousand dollars, little over nine thousand dollars that still should be in the budget, but you have a function coming up this weekend. So what I don't see anything that justifies [0:54:41, 0:54:44]: an increase from ten thousand to eighteen thousand. [0:54:45, 0:55:05]: uh for for that for the youth council because we said we're gonna start implementing parent participation and they're gonna be creative with the things that they're gonna be doing so I don't think that we should have an eight thousand dollar increase in a budget and that the count that me as a council member still don't know how the money's being spent because we don't get a report [0:55:04, 0:55:05]: What on that? [0:55:06, 0:55:10]: So what justifies another eight thousand dollar increase? [0:55:10, 0:55:11]: I have no idea. [0:55:13, 0:55:14]: Yeah. [0:55:14, 0:55:18]: Um we have a comment from our attorney. [0:55:20, 0:55:29]: Madam Mayor, uh Council members, the the ten thousand that was budgeted uh last year was just a number that was put in as a placeholder. [0:55:30, 0:55:37]: when we prepared the curriculum or when your youth council advisory committee prepared the curriculum back in March [0:55:37, 0:55:49]: Um based on that curriculum a budget was prepared for a 12-month cycle and that budget was presented to the council at the time and uh [0:55:50, 0:56:10]: For the current fiscal year, no budget amendment was needed because within that 10,000 there were sufficient amounts. But that curriculum called for a budget in the neighborhood of 18,000. And that was what was presented and approved. And that was the basis for the increase. [0:56:10, 0:56:25]: I guess the the way we kind of looked at it is the ten thousand was just a placeholder. That wasn't necessarily a real number based on real uh operations. Um so that that's that's the justification for what it's worth. [0:56:26, 0:56:32]: But as a follow-up question to that, uh are you gonna be the one answering the ones for the youth council? [0:56:33, 0:56:45]: That's fine. I mean but as a as a follow up to that and I understand the basis of it and you can't almost a pro reading of the of the funds that was already brought in. I understand that. But what I'm saying is is that [0:56:45, 0:56:54]: with the organization and with the ch what what we're needing as a council because you can approve budgets for different areas but if we don't know how that money is being spent. [0:56:54, 0:57:14]: then how do we know that we're being good stewards of the money when we don't even know how it's being spent because we're not getting any reports on that or anything. The council is not it's not an entity of itself. It's an entity of the city of Stockbridge. And if we're not aware of what's going on, then how can we justify approving eight thousand more dollars on something that right [0:57:14, 0:57:21]: now should have at least nine thousand dollars in the budget still left over from last from from this year. [0:57:21, 0:57:27]: How do we justify approving eight thousand more dollars on the entity that we have no idea how the funds are being spent? [0:57:28, 0:57:30]: Nothing's coming to the council. [0:57:31, 0:57:32]: I do. [0:57:32, 0:57:32]: I would [0:57:33, 0:57:37]: Respectfully suggested that information has been made available to the council. [0:57:39, 0:57:41]: Uh what has been spent so far. [0:57:41, 0:57:42]: And [0:57:42, 0:58:02]: There are funds left over for the current year based on the the increase that was made and the fact that the uh not all the 5800 extra was utilized for the Charlotte Conference. So it's a valid question about whether or not we um allocated more than was needed. [0:58:02, 0:58:03]: Yeah. [0:58:03, 0:58:07]: That eighteen thousand was based on a whole twelve month [0:58:08, 0:58:15]: program um based on the curriculum that was adopted by the youth council advisory committee and which was approved by the mayor and council. [0:58:17, 0:58:19]: Mr. Williams, really quick. [0:58:19, 0:58:23]: on a 12-month program for$18,000. [0:58:24, 0:58:26]: Where's the paperwork so we can see that? [0:58:28, 0:58:32]: Budget documents were presented at the um [0:58:32, 0:58:50]: at the retreat that you all had uh a couple of months ago and those were essentially the same documents that were prepared in March April timeframe that were were also presented. But with the curriculum that's going to justify$18,000, where is that paperwork for 2018? [0:58:50, 0:58:55]: Uh it's it's the same information. There were there's r essentially no change from what was presented. [0:58:55, 0:58:59]: initially A call and what was discussed again at the retreat. [0:58:59, 0:59:02]: National League of Cities was added on. [0:59:02, 0:59:22]: Well you are correct and that that was that fifty eight hundred dollar amendment. That part is not included in the uh the twenty eighteen budget. There there are no current plans to send uh you utilizing budgeted city funds to send the youth council to the National League of Cities Conference. [0:59:22, 0:59:33]: next year. The only reason it was done this year is because the MAKIN conference, which was budgeted for and is in the$18,000 that's budgeted for or requested for 2018. [0:59:34, 0:59:43]: That was canceled, but we are informed that they plan to have that conference next year so that kids, if approved, would not be going to the National League of Cities. [0:59:44, 0:59:46]: And and I I I appreciate that. [0:59:46, 0:59:50]: But to to not prolong it. The question was [0:59:50, 0:59:52]: With this money. [0:59:52, 0:59:55]: At fifteen thousand eight hundred dollars. [0:59:56, 0:59:58]: And now you have nine thousand dollars left. [0:59:59, 1:00:02]: The the conference down in Macon was not nine thousand dollars. [1:00:05, 1:00:08]: We remove the National League of Cities event. [1:00:09, 1:00:20]: What there's nothing to justify putting because there's no parent participation in this program and we need parent participation because we cannot have seven students [1:00:21, 1:00:25]: wanting to go on a trip and only three go and it cost the city money. We can't have that. [1:00:27, 1:00:35]: Okay. Uh we have a comment now from Ms. Robinson. Then we're gonna wrap this up. If I can make a comment on that, um [1:00:38, 1:00:39]: With this youth council [1:00:40, 1:00:41]: Everyone is public. [1:00:42, 1:00:44]: meetings is open to the public. [1:00:45, 1:01:05]: Information is there. Anyone can sit in on these meetings. This was our first run with the Youth Council. A lot of these students are from different schools. We put it out there. We only received seven. A lot of these students are involved in other school activities, but we as a city we're saying [1:01:05, 1:01:25]: this is the City of Stockbridge Youth Council. But what this council, my colleagues, what we have done, we have actually put a little tax on top of these young people to pay monies back. Okay? So we're trying to offer a service to show what they can do for us to learn government. [1:01:24, 1:01:44]: but we're trying to put a block so that way it makes it hard for them. Um as I stated to my colleagues when we when we brought this to them, a lot of things are going to be trial and error. When we're talking about the National League of Cities, we did have the kids that were committed, but then school stuff came in at the last minute. [1:01:44, 1:02:04]: However, I'm speaking with someone with National League of Cities so that way we can try to get our funds back because they did not go. So if we follow the process or if we communicate directly to those that are involved directly with the youth council, I think we'll have a better understanding. [1:02:04, 1:02:06]: is here every day. [1:02:06, 1:02:09]: My phone is open every day. [1:02:10, 1:02:30]: I just wish someone would just pick up the phone and ask the questions. I do not want our citizens to think that this youth council is just blowing money. These students who are gonna come before you at the beginning of the year and do their presentation to show how that they had this experience. [1:02:29, 1:02:46]: that this really, really was something that they can take back to their schools as well. We have a lot of students in our local schools. We have students in private schools. All of these students are citizens of the city of Stockbridge. So again [1:02:47, 1:03:07]: If we're going to do something for our students, I'd look at if while we're taxing them to pay things back, our own, that we call the City of Stockbridge Youth Council, but we're willing to give money on other entities that are not directly involving these. [1:03:07, 1:03:26]: seven students who are in our community. They went through b backgrounds, they went through everything. So again, these kids, scholars, are committed to the program. It's just again our first year and we're working through the kinks. So I will again [1:03:27, 1:03:31]: Ask all of my colleagues if you have a question. [1:03:31, 1:03:51]: Please pick up the phone and ask your question. I'm here. The city attorney is here to address any and all concerns that you may have. But I do not want anyone to think that we're not being good stewards over my tax dollars as well as your tax dollars. [1:03:51, 1:03:58]: Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Robinson. If there are no other questions about the budget, [1:04:00, 1:04:00]: Okay. [1:04:02, 1:04:10]: Well we we are in public hearing at this point. We will leave the public hearing and then go out and [1:04:11, 1:04:19]: All right. We have someone from the audience, uh Mr. Alfonso Thomas, to come forward if he has a comment. [1:04:32, 1:04:33]: Good evening. [1:04:34, 1:04:37]: My name is Alfonso Thomas, City Council Elect. [1:04:38, 1:04:43]: I have a couple of questions and concerns on two issues here. [1:04:43, 1:04:45]: National League of Cities. [1:04:46, 1:04:51]: And I know what was presented, I heard some figures, 10,000, 20,000. [1:04:52, 1:04:58]: Just say for instance, and and I hope uh Mr. Night can answer this, but suppose [1:04:59, 1:05:02]: There's a conference in Washington DC. [1:05:02, 1:05:07]: And every council member wanted to attend at the same time. [1:05:08, 1:05:25]: What does that cost? And we I heard a figure of 10,000. So i i is ten thousand gonna cover uh five council members for twelve months attending Austin, Texas. I I I know city council members at other municipalities. [1:05:26, 1:05:36]: Austin, Texas, Boston, Washington, DC, there are conferences and they attend. So the question is how is 10,000 or 20,000 [1:05:37, 1:05:39]: Plus a youth council is gonna cover that. [1:05:39, 1:05:45]: So I think we need to look at this very closely now. I may be uh misunderstanding that, am I? [1:05:48, 1:06:03]: Well uh uh yes, thank you Mr. Thomas for the question. Um that was a proposed increase to what is already proposed in the budget. I believe it's twenty thousand for um education and training and then an additional um ten I think for um travel. [1:06:04, 1:06:20]: Travel. Travel is proposed at fifteen five. Fifteen five years. Twenty thousand yeah. Five thousand will be added to each of those. For the total year. For the total year, yes, sir. Okay, so when you break that down per council member [1:06:23, 1:06:24]: Let's look at all turn it. [1:06:25, 1:06:32]: Okay, so that's that's the concern right there. I don't I don't think that's gonna cover it. Please speak into the microphone. But I I'll I'll leave that alone. [1:06:32, 1:06:35]: My other concern is with the Youth Council. [1:06:37, 1:06:43]: Any common council member and I have tried to research to see [1:06:43, 1:06:45]: Goes [1:06:45, 1:06:46]: Objectives. [1:06:47, 1:06:50]: purpose for the youth council. [1:06:50, 1:06:51]: I don't see that. [1:06:52, 1:06:55]: This is a youth council that represents the city of Stockbridge. [1:06:56, 1:06:59]: I'm a former youth director myself. [1:07:01, 1:07:03]: I cannot support [1:07:04, 1:07:07]: Any youth activity or youth program [1:07:08, 1:07:13]: does that does not advocate for youth city wide. [1:07:14, 1:07:16]: We have game problems. [1:07:17, 1:07:19]: We have failed in schools. [1:07:20, 1:07:29]: And I don't I don't see this. I don't see the goal, the objective. These are things that should have been in place before any money was allocated. [1:07:30, 1:07:38]: So I I see Ms. Robson, you're getting ready to inform me and I hope you do. Uh I can't find it. Now you said pick up the phone and call you. [1:07:38, 1:07:40]: These citizens should not have to call you. [1:07:41, 1:07:57]: They should be able to go online and see what goals objective programs for this youth council. They shouldn't have to call you. For me, it is not Neat Robertson Youth Council. It is the City of Stockbridge Youth Council. It is not Mr. Williams Youth Council. It is the City of Stockbridge Youth Council. [1:07:57, 1:08:03]: Any citizen in this city should be able to go and find goals, objectives, programs. [1:08:04, 1:08:06]: that this youth council has laid out. [1:08:07, 1:08:12]: How are you going to impact the issues and the problem of youth in this city? [1:08:12, 1:08:14]: Not seven kids. [1:08:15, 1:08:17]: That's a slight on every kid in this city. [1:08:18, 1:08:34]: So I'm just a little disappointed in what I'm hearing about this youth council and what I'm seeing. I see a couple of flower pots out there in front of this building here. That's not a youth council. We need to impact the problems of young folks in this city. [1:08:35, 1:08:45]: So I'm going to go back to my seat and I hope you respond to some of this. But if this youth council is not impacting the problems of young people in the city of Stockbridge, [1:08:46, 1:08:48]: It's a problem with me. [1:08:48, 1:09:08]: And I'm going to speak to this next month when I'm on the council. Okay. Thank you. Ms. H. Thomas. Thank you. Um let let's uh pause just a minute. I want to ask the attorney a question. We've kinda gotten sidetracked off the budget, um the discussing the youth council. Um I wonder if we [1:09:08, 1:09:16]: We could possibly um end our public hearing on our budget [1:09:17, 1:09:37]: and go outside of the public hearing and there'll be opportunity for um Ms. Robinson or anyone else to um respond tonight or later about the um purpose of the youth council and if we go outside our public hearing we could then will we then vote on the [1:09:37, 1:09:39]: budget. [1:09:39, 1:09:49]: Yes ma'am, you need to allow for the remainder of the folks in attendance if anyone else wants to speak to the bike. [1:09:50, 1:09:51]: Council can deliberate. [1:09:51, 1:09:57]: Okay. All right. At this time is anyone else in the um in the council chamber? [1:09:58, 1:10:02]: wanting to come to the podium to make a comment about the budget. [1:10:04, 1:10:20]: If not, then I will declare the public hearing closed. And at this time, we are going to bring this matter back. If you would like to make a motion that we go forward with our budget, any motion you want to make about that. [1:10:20, 1:10:40]: Mr. Ford. Thank you, Mayor. Actually, I don't want to make a motion right now. I was really opening this up for discussion in reference to to the council's training and travel in reference to the National League of Cities. That's when I initially started. Actually I have another request coming up also as well. So I'm going to get back to this. So the number of 10,000, okay, five for travel. [1:10:40, 1:11:00]: five for training. The qu the question is really would that be enough? Should it be is that five thousand or should it be ten thousand additionally at w uh excuse me, ten thousand for training and ten thousand for travel, which would actually take a the total from twenty thousand to forty thousand. Right. I my when I initially brought this up whatever we decide on [1:11:00, 1:11:18]: want to make sure of course we stay within the compounds of a balanced budget as well. That okay in that aspect. And it when it would, the proposal if approved, for adding$5,000 to education and training and$5,000 to travel for a total of$10,000 additional [1:11:18, 1:11:33]: would move those two line items to twenty thousand five hundred and then twenty-five thousand for a total of forty-five thousand five hundred, which divided by six is seventy seven thousand six hundred dollars divided by six. [1:11:34, 1:11:43]: Now, if if we approve that, that's that's for National League of Cities, that's for GMA training, that's all training, right? That that's what the allocation would be per council member, is that correct? [1:11:43, 1:11:46]: That is the application pro council member. That is correct. [1:11:49, 1:11:50]: Okay. [1:11:50, 1:11:57]: Is everybody clear? Uh do I hear a motion that we accept the budget as presented? [1:11:58, 1:11:58]: Well [1:11:58, 1:12:12]: You want to make yeah what no no no one other thing mayor if you don't mind. I mean we can vote on that, but I have another request that's going to affect that that involves the incoming mayor, yours truly here. [1:12:12, 1:12:32]: Want to discuss this and make sure that if whether or not I got approved from the council as all. The mayor doesn't have a council initiative. And I just wanted to ask whether or not I can have a council initiative with the rest of the council to do the exact same things that uh they may do, but I actually as the mayor itself. It's up to the council approved. I wouldn't vote on that even now as a mayor pro town. I'm just asking whether or not I can have the 2500 [1:12:32, 1:12:51]: allocated in my as as a mayor initiative along with the council is equal uh equal across the board if that's available. It's never been done for as I know of, but I'm just asking, would that would the council accept that? I probably won't even use it all. They're going back to the general fund, but the point of it is I almost want to ask the question if if I can get that approved. [1:12:52, 1:12:55]: Well we approve this budget. That's my second request. Mr. Mullight. [1:12:56, 1:12:57]: Um [1:12:59, 1:13:04]: These are suggestions outside of what we already have before us. [1:13:05, 1:13:07]: Um I'm not for [1:13:07, 1:13:10]: Producing m uh [1:13:10, 1:13:30]: uh doing the because it's the first time doing uh putting an uh an initiative for the mayor. The mayor's job is not to be concerned about whether you have a council initiative fund. It's your job to make sure the city hall is running the way it's supposed to be ran. And so I'm not for just continue to put money into different things. [1:13:30, 1:13:36]: This is taxpayers' money because of the first time being done. This is not the position for the mayor. [1:13:36, 1:13:41]: The council has initiative funds to go outside in the communities which we are [1:13:41, 1:13:51]: supposed to do and we make things happen in the community. That's what we're supposed to do. The mayor's duties is primarily city hall, so I'm not for the mayor getting the council initiative fund. [1:13:53, 1:14:08]: Mayor Neal, any other comments? Mayor Neal, just to be clear on the proposed amount, if it's to be changed to include the National League of Cities,$1,000 per member would not be sufficient. [1:14:09, 1:14:12]: If the council members intend on a on [1:14:13, 1:14:16]: Going to the current GMA. [1:14:17, 1:14:20]: Carl Vincent ARC [1:14:20, 1:14:22]: conferences that you currently attend. [1:14:23, 1:14:25]: Adding National League of Cities. [1:14:26, 1:14:28]: Would not be covered with a thousand dollars. [1:14:30, 1:14:32]: Just wanted to make that. [1:14:33, 1:14:33]: Clear. [1:14:34, 1:14:36]: Okay. Um [1:14:37, 1:14:54]: I w need to tell the audience I need to step out for just a few minutes and I'm coming back. So Mr. Ford's gonna take over for me for a minute and uh we'll let this conversation just keep rolling. Okay? Mr. Ford. Go ahead. Mr Cousin I was sorry. [1:14:55, 1:15:15]: The city manager has endeavored to do a great job uh presenting the budget. He has come up with a budget for us to approve, which uh appears to be uh a sound budget in good standing. So at this point to make changes after the fourth meeting seems [1:15:15, 1:15:35]: Uh you know, not the best use of our time and uh resources in having four public hearings that we've had. Personally at this point I'm uh for approving the budget uh as is, without any extra expenditures, uh because [1:15:35, 1:15:41]: It's already being increased. Um what's the exact amount that's being increased from last year, sir? [1:15:42, 1:16:02]: It's about um eight to nine hundred thousand dollars. Right. The budget is already being increased, almost nine hundred thousand dollars. So I think we've done the right thing and he's put the emphasis in the right place, which is adding new positions, professionals to come in and assist him in managing the city. [1:16:02, 1:16:18]: Now it seems like, you know, we're trying to add some earmarks at the last minute for pet projects and things that we want to to do. That's not the way that we should be doing things. Um I think we hired uh Mr. Knighton to do the right thing. I think he's already done that. [1:16:18, 1:16:29]: And I think we should move forward uh with the budget uh as is with a nine hundred thousand dollar increase. Any other comments? Yes. Just go right ahead. Okay. [1:16:30, 1:16:50]: First I want to clear the National League of Cities for my presence. My second year I was appointed on the GMA Federal Policy Council. So I speak directly with the Congressman David Scott's office through GMA. That's my reason reason for wanting to go to Washington. And I've have the funds where it doesn't have to [1:16:50, 1:17:10]: be increased. So I don't know about my other colleagues. So I just want the public to know that I was appointed my second year and I sit on the federal policy board with GMA. Okay. That's my reasoning. Um for as the youth council the the questions were that came about that if we're not affecting all of [1:17:10, 1:17:30]: of the um children in our community in our city um that is not true we are trying to reach all of them when someone says something about the little pots we had children from red oak we had kids and you can see the pictures we had children to come out from all over [1:17:30, 1:17:50]: So again, I said this was our first year. So we have a curriculum. We have everything in place. And I would ask that any of my colleagues, that if you're willing and wanting to jump on board to enhance this program for our young people, I suggest you attending. [1:17:50, 1:17:52]: These meetings. [1:17:52, 1:18:04]: that we have, they're open for everyone. The meetings are there so that way everyone can do their suggestions. The meeting for the youth is held every first and third [1:18:05, 1:18:06]: Wednesday of the month. [1:18:08, 1:18:09]: It's opens. [1:18:10, 1:18:19]: At 530. At 530, it's open for everyone. Our advisory committee has a meeting. Our youth council has a meeting. [1:18:19, 1:18:39]: So again, I will say this, it's open to everyone. So the ones that are going to come on to be our new colleagues, I welcome you to enhance this program coming in positive so that way whatever your suggestions are, because this is not a Neat Robinson program, but what took place was [1:18:39, 1:18:47]: No one took the initiative years ago to do a program for the city of Stockbridge. So I have [1:18:47, 1:18:51]: And it took a lot of work to get where we are. [1:18:51, 1:19:11]: And we've done great things. So again, anyone that feels that this is negative, I implore you to step in and support our young people in the city of Stockbridge. Because we have Stockbridge High School, we have the counselors, we have a lot of people in this community that want [1:19:11, 1:19:31]: To help. It was stated at the beginning that we were going to make it into a grand council as well. So that's why we're waiting for this next year to come and we're gonna open it up for more students because they're getting wind of what this program is about. So we have a lot of people that are willing to step in. [1:19:31, 1:19:51]: in to volunteer. We have great volunteers. So all I'm saying is going in 2018, I ask each and every colleague to leave out the politics and enhance being a team player this program. That's my plea. [1:19:51, 1:19:52]: Even with the funding. [1:19:53, 1:19:56]: A lot of kids in this in in our community. [1:19:56, 1:20:16]: We need to reach them. One or two people can't do that. But if you know somebody or know or have the ability to assist, that is what I'm asking. People are saying when I said my phone, anybody could have called my phone to ask anything about the program. So Councilman. [1:20:16, 1:20:25]: elect Thomas, I implore you to step in, join the team, and be positive so that way we can move forward. [1:20:26, 1:20:46]: Okay. No. No, okay, thank you. Thank you, sir. No, open uh no open comments open uh so open comments are already been taken care of, okay? Well public hearing supposedly the mayor's already supposedly the mayor's already ended the public hearing, sir. On the budget. On on the budget. That's correct. On the budget. Now uh back [1:20:46, 1:21:00]: to the back to the council. Obviously Councilman Alexander wants to go forward with the proposal as it is. Councilman Blount says no need for additional assessment for initiative fund for the mayor. [1:21:01, 1:21:17]: I just wanted to see what's on the side here. Yes, um I'm all I'm okay with uh you receiving your initiative, the twenty five hundred dollars. And uh let me just say to the audience and and we're know we're going round and round and round about about the budget. Um [1:21:20, 1:21:40]: The job of a city councilman and mayor, we we uh get a stipend monthly of I think it's about nine hundred and fifteen dollars per month. I don't know if people think we get some kinda crazy salary and we're getting paid some astronomical five thousand we're living off of these funds, we aren't. We take train [1:21:40, 1:22:00]: Training to educate us. Um to nickel and dime ourselves. Uh the the mayor gets fourteen thousand dollars a year, the city council gets twelve thousand. That's before taxes or benefits taken away. A year. That's what you get. Um we are here for meetings between six to ten [1:22:00, 1:22:11]: six to midnight, whatever you wanna call it, twice a month and and ribbon cuttings and presentations and different committees and and you name it and here during the week. [1:22:11, 1:22:12]: Any given day. [1:22:13, 1:22:26]: We're debating back and forth on hurting ourselves on and limiting ourselves on the education that can be provided to us and for us. And I'm sure citizens will understand. [1:22:27, 1:22:32]: us trying to enhance ourselves for the benefit of our growing city. [1:22:33, 1:22:53]: And so to keep going back and forth over numbers politically or going back and forth over numbers that really on a larger scale, if you look at the 10%, if it's$40,000 or$20,000 increase, whether it's considered travel and transportation, the same thing. [1:22:53, 1:22:56]: You gotta get there. And it's one pot. [1:22:57, 1:23:17]: But we need to stop nickel and diamond on those issues. We spent way too much time on it. I think we're shortchanging ourselves and we all should consider that. And whether we use it the funds all up or not, we need to allow ourselves the opportunity for those op to go if we want to. And if you don't want to go, then don't go. [1:23:18, 1:23:31]: But I think we are shortchanging ourselves when you look at the budget and you can see other things that are are million dollars in the budget and we're arguing about something on on a hundred dollar value. [1:23:34, 1:23:39]: Ms. Robinson one second please. Ms. Robinson, do you have any comment on reference to the mayor getting any type of initiative funds? [1:23:40, 1:24:00]: I'm all for that. Okay. I'm all for that. I said earlier and to for integrity purposes here, okay. I said earlier then I wouldn't vote on on on this particular issue. I let the council decide. Is it two two split? No, no, sir. Point of order. Okay, point of order. I'm okay with that. Oh, you are okay with that? Yes, I'm okay with that. [1:24:00, 1:24:20]: with you getting the council initiative. I'm not okay with the National League of Cities and all that, but I'm okay with you getting the money. Oh okay. All right. Okay. I misunderstood you. Okay. On that note then fine. Then then um if that's the case then that's that's good. They've got three so I th I I feel good about that. If that's okay. Thank you very much. Now um back to the so otherwise [1:24:20, 1:24:40]: I guess the motion is gonna well we gotta talk about this further about the National League of Cities, I guess. I'll back up Tony. About the budget and whether or not additional funds. Um Alexander doesn't think there's need to be initial funds for the National League of Cities, so again I get an understanding whether or not the rest of the council feels the same way or not before we go ahead and approve this and [1:24:40, 1:24:46]: one massive vote. Uh councilman uh Blount, you got a uh decision or comfort uh comments on reference to that? [1:24:47, 1:24:48]: Ready to move on. [1:24:49, 1:24:51]: Okay. [1:24:51, 1:24:53]: All right. No? I'm fine. [1:24:53, 1:24:56]: Okay. All right. So um [1:24:58, 1:25:18]: Okay, I'll I'll make a mo I'll I I'll make a motion and then we'll see if we this flies here. Okay. I'll make a motion that we the uh adopt the the agenda with these particular adjustments. One is that the incoming mayor or the mayor gets the same amount for an initiative funds as the rest of the council. All right, and then [1:25:18, 1:25:37]: The additional um I think it was additional five thousand dollars. Ten thousand. Ten dollars it was five thousand in education and training and five thousand in travel. Okay, which which probably for the training and education for the uh National League of Cities attendance for council members. [1:25:38, 1:25:39]: That's my motion. [1:25:41, 1:25:42]: Okay. There are a second. [1:25:43, 1:25:45]: I take it. [1:25:45, 1:25:46]: Now. [1:25:47, 1:25:53]: Is it that's the motion am I getting confused? Council and then so you're you're making a [1:25:53, 1:26:05]: Well right, is that correct? Okay. So you're asking that the [1:26:09, 1:26:13]: Uh hundred. Okay. And you're asking for the training. [1:26:15, 1:26:24]: Twenty five thousand. Okay, whatever the the the additional five thousand years. Okay. Is that is that okay? [1:26:26, 1:26:27]: Yeah, right. [1:26:28, 1:26:35]: Okay, so uh so really uh this um [1:26:36, 1:26:56]: I guess I mean state in the motion then. Is that the case? Is that the case, Mr. Yes, I think you should okay so I want to approve the two thousand eighteen budget with a couple amendments or adjustments to that. The uh the council initiative fund will be increased by twenty five hundred for a total of fifteen thousand and then the travel and training fund [1:26:56, 1:27:06]: fund uh for the council will increase by a total of ten thousand but be five thousand each for training and five thousand for the uh uh travel itself. [1:27:06, 1:27:07]: Okay. [1:27:07, 1:27:08]: Right. [1:27:09, 1:27:09]: Is there a second? [1:27:11, 1:27:31]: I second. Okay, just second. Okay, now discussion. Yes sir. Yes. Uh this is w items like this, this is why I like to vote on them individually, because I'm not gonna stop and vote against the entire budget to stop uh from moving forward with this. But as I stated, I'm against [1:27:31, 1:27:51]: um you know the National League of Cities. I'm against uh duplication and process because we have the Georgia Municipal Association already. We have much to be learned from these organizations right here rather than traveling to California or to DC or anywhere else other than that. [1:27:51, 1:28:11]: Show me the ramifications behind what you brought back. What has it brought to the table? I haven't seen anything being brought to the table from going to DC by the council members. I haven't seen it. So when I see that, then I'll be willing to go forward with that. I'm willing to vote to pass the budget here, but you know I [1:28:11, 1:28:31]: I don't think ten thousand dollars is nickel and dime in anybody. It's ten thousand dollars of citizens' money. And the majority of that money is going to be used to pay for trips like to DC and to different other places. That's not that shouldn't be our priority. So I'm against it on that point because maybe you could get the same training. [1:28:31, 1:28:51]: Training in Atlanta. Maybe you could get the same training uh in Augusta versus the extensive cost into doing what we need uh to to make this travel. I'm just it bothers me that uh you know we had a twenty thousand dollars on this line item, now we're we're splitting it up, we're taking five over here and [1:28:51, 1:29:03]: five over there and yes, it's real money. It is real citizens money. And I'm not real sure whether or not the um the the benefit is gonna help us get the amphitheater built. [1:29:03, 1:29:11]: or the school or the youth center build, or you know, to attract economic development to the city of Stockbridge. [1:29:11, 1:29:19]: All of those things should be the priority in growing the government to manage the people's business and municipal services adequately. [1:29:19, 1:29:39]: So I'm gonna I would vote for the budget because I think overall it's a good budget and our city manager has done a good job. But make no mistake about it, these are earmarks that are being added just like they do in Washington. You just you got pet projects that you want to add a few dollars here and there over what we're already doing. These this is [1:29:39, 1:29:47]: what people don't like about Washington and uh this is kind of what we're doing here, but I will vote for the budget at large. [1:29:48, 1:29:48]: Mm. [1:29:49, 1:30:09]: We just want to say um the comment on that. We can reach out all of us as elected officials, we can reach out to GMA, which is Georgia Municipal Association, and they will tell you what the benefit is. There's a lot of legislation that goes from the state [1:30:09, 1:30:24]: state that goes all the way to the White House. And we, if we're at the table, as I like I said, there's a lot of things when I sit on this board, I bring back to our staff. [1:30:25, 1:30:45]: And our staff will be able to respond in that manner. Some of when we went to the National Um League of Cities, we took the youth, a lot of you received things in your mailbox. A lot of things the city manager, our city attorney received that would impact the city of Stockbridge. [1:30:44, 1:31:04]: So if information is stated that what are we doing, for one, our staff is doing a great job. We're putting putting things in place. So we're going to have that amphitheater. Because we have staff that know exactly what they're doing and what it's going to intend. [1:31:04, 1:31:20]: for us to get it. So I don't want to shorthand our staff when we can look at broader areas for this city of Stockbridge. We're trying to build, we're trying to go up in our buildings. [1:31:22, 1:31:23]: We just need to [1:31:24, 1:31:44]: Like like I said, there's education out there and you need to go get it because you're just not gonna get it right here in Stockbridge. Why? Who is at the table? There's all other cities from the state of Georgia that were represented at National League of Cities. Again, I asked my colleagues if you [1:31:44, 1:31:54]: have questions reach out to GMA and find out what the benefit is by City of Stockbridge being at the table. Thank you. [1:31:54, 1:31:57]: Any other comments on on this? Yes. Go right in, sir. [1:31:58, 1:31:59]: Um [1:32:00, 1:32:15]: I'm okay with because any amendments we need to do with the budget, we can do those latest. But what I'm saying, I I don't want right now my position on the mayor having a council having initiative fund. I'm not for that. So I don't want to group those things up together. [1:32:16, 1:32:18]: in order for me to vote for this budget right now. [1:32:19, 1:32:25]: because I don't want my opinion being grouped. I'm for the budget. This was just added on tonight. [1:32:25, 1:32:27]: So I don't want to group those things up. [1:32:29, 1:32:31]: Any other comments? [1:32:31, 1:32:51]: Okay, I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll solve this. Yeah. I'll go withdraw my initial motion and I'll restate it and we'll do it twice, all right? Uh okay, let's start this first way. I'm uh I'll make make a motion that we increase the council initiative additional twenty five hundred for the mayor to have that uh initial uh uh council initiative funds just like the rest of the council. Okay? [1:32:52, 1:32:53]: There's a second. [1:32:53, 1:32:58]: I'm sorry, can we take take off a second? So let her [1:32:59, 1:32:59]: Last year. [1:33:01, 1:33:03]: Okay, there's a second. Any discussions on it? [1:33:05, 1:33:07]: No discussion. All in favor, please indicate. [1:33:08, 1:33:09]: Opposed? [1:33:10, 1:33:30]: Opposed? Okay, there we go. Now second motion. It will be on accepting the budget to add the for the training and the the travel an additional five thousand dollars each in those particular uh categories for the uh National League of Cities travel and and uh training to be involved to the council travel page. [1:33:30, 1:33:34]: peace there, I guess in a sense. Uh you understand that, but uh is there a second? [1:33:34, 1:33:54]: There we go. Any further discussion? Just a point of clarification. I just want to make the make it clear that the corresponding increase, if it's if it's approved, would come from a revenue side of occupational tax. We received actual revenues up to this point this year in occupational tax, and that revenue would offset this proposed income. [1:33:54, 1:34:01]: Okay, great, fantastic. Fantastic. Good stuff. Okay. Any dis further discussion? All in favor of the motion, please indicate? [1:34:03, 1:34:04]: Ben all post? [1:34:06, 1:34:12]: Thank you. The ten thousand dollars for the traveling training increase. [1:34:13, 1:34:18]: All in favor? All four four one? Okay, all right. Thank you. All right. [1:34:18, 1:34:38]: Uh thank you council. I appreciate that. I appreciate that we're gonna make this a great year uh and and make it work well for the citizens and whatnot. So Ms. Favors, thank you very much. Uh Randy, appreciate it, City Manager. Uh Mr. Mayor Yes sir. Mr. Mayor Mayor. Claire us up legally. Did I do so? You'd still have to vote on the final budget. Those were amending the budget. Oh the amendment okay. [1:34:38, 1:34:45]: Excuse me. All right, good deal. Mayor Tim. Yes, Mayor. I would like to vote to approve our 2018 budget. [1:34:46, 1:34:49]: Oops sir. Okay, any s for discussion? [1:34:50, 1:34:51]: All in favor please indicate. [1:34:51, 1:34:55]: There we go. Fantastic. All right. Thank you, Mr. Attorney. [1:34:56, 1:35:16]: All right, on that note we go to new business and council consideration to approve the city's credit card cumulative limit. Cumulative limit. Yes. Um Mayor Pro Tem Ford and and Council members. This is a request to increase the collective or aggregate limit uh from$15,000 to$25,000. [1:35:16, 1:35:36]: thousand dollars. We only have a select few credit cards, but the individual limits still don't add up to 15,000. They add up to more than 15,000. And whenever we've had situations where we've had events and so forth and we're having to utilize credit cards and other things happen, we're bumping up against [1:35:36, 1:35:47]: that$15,000 limit. And so we would just ask that that limit be increased to$25,000 in order for us to effectively carry out the day-to-day operations of city government. [1:35:47, 1:36:02]: Okay, thank you. Council, you heard of the response there. Do you need a motion, please? Mayor Putin. Yes, ma'am, go right ahead. I move that council agree to um approve the$25,000 City Credit Card cumulative limit. Okay, is that a second? [1:36:02, 1:36:05]: There we go, Ms. Robinson. Second that any further discussion? [1:36:06, 1:36:08]: Discussion, no discussion, all in favor, please indicate. [1:36:08, 1:36:10]: All right. Good deal. [1:36:11, 1:36:21]: Well, Mr. Knighton, Council consideration to amend the city's procurement policy, sir. Right. That was consideration for the end of the year going into next year. Right now, the city managers [1:36:21, 1:36:39]: um limit is is ten thousand uh dollars um for the city manager to to approve items at ten thousand dollars. Um I'm fine with that right now um and so I think we can manage appropriately. So that's just to clarify$10,000. [1:36:39, 1:36:53]: So that means you don't need to vote on that. That's good. Okay. Um Ms. Wheeler's not here. So says Council consideration approved the 2018 workers' comprehension policy with provider J. Smith Lanier. [1:36:54, 1:37:12]: Right, this is a recommendation uh to approve J. Smith Gladnier as the workers compensation insurer. Um I understand that they have been with the city for uh quite some time. Um this is an annual approval and uh we're asking you to go ahead and approve that um um and move it forward for workmen's compensation. [1:37:13, 1:37:19]: Anything that you need to highlight on this at all that we need to hold it? [1:37:20, 1:37:26]: Almost right at hundred thousand. Okay, yes. Okay. [1:37:26, 1:37:30]: Okay, Council, you heard that and and is the motion to accept this? [1:37:30, 1:37:50]: Uh Mayor Tim before I accept I do want to make a comment. If we've had them for a while, I ask that this upcoming year will we still shop around. Um it's um common practice that a municipality can, you know, at least every three years shop around and make sure that we are doing what's in the best interest of Stockbridge. And I believe we did receive [1:37:50, 1:38:10]: In fact, I've had conversations with um Donald Riley, our procurement officer, about ensuring that we are on a regular rotation for all of our contracts on a regular basis. And you're right, three percent is the industry standard. Thank you. Um this is the third year, by the way. This would be the third year. Okay. [1:38:10, 1:38:25]: Yes yes sir, go ahead. Yes uh is there I thought there was a policy that we had to anything over fifty thousand dollars had to be uh like an R issued a RP issued or something like that to get quotes on anything over fifty thousand? [1:38:27, 1:38:47]: That's correct. Um the the firm that you use to shop all of your insurance policies, they go through a uh a process to get quotes and I I cannot sit here and tell you that they followed it exactly what's in our ordinance, but they did go through and and receive quotes from a number of of uh uh [1:38:47, 1:38:52]: of potential providers and just recommendation. [1:38:53, 1:38:58]: Is it okay to request that information? Is it the two laser are time sensitive on this? [1:39:03, 1:39:08]: Yep. It it goes into a fact January one. Yeah. It's an annual. Uh-huh. [1:39:08, 1:39:20]: Okay. All right. Mayorten. Any any further questions? Okay, I need a motion then to sub this. Mayor Partins, I move that we approve the twenty eighteen workers' comp policy with provider Jay Smith Lanier. Is there a second? [1:39:21, 1:39:23]: There Ms. Robinson seconded that. Any further discussion? [1:39:24, 1:39:25]: All in favor, please indicate. [1:39:27, 1:39:47]: Opposed. Sustain. Okay. Um council consideration to approve use of Ted Strickland Community Center for a U council event to be held December twenty second. Oh you have that sir. Go right ahead, please. Yes, sir. Uh Ms. Cruz is unavailable, but um just very quickly when the curriculum uh [1:39:47, 1:40:07]: for the youth council was approved. One of the aspects of the curriculum is that we challenged the youth council to do a public service project. And this year they chose to do a public service project which benefits a foster home, a local foster home here in the Henry County area. [1:40:06, 1:40:26]: have uh as I recall sixteen um children there ranging from ages eight through uh seventeen I believe um and so the program they're gonna have a holiday themed dinner for them um and at the same time they're raising funds to provide [1:40:26, 1:40:46]: some of the items on their Christmas wish list for each of the children. But the dinner they would like to have added to Ted Strickland and get a authorization from the mayor and council to utilize the Ted Strickland Center just as other organizations have used it as part of the city partnership. [1:40:46, 1:40:58]: Okay, thank you. Any comments? So moved. Okay. So moved. Okay. Can you other c uh no other discussion? All favor please indicate. Oh yeah, second. [1:40:58, 1:41:03]: Oh sir, excuse me, I'm jumping the gun here. Seconded by Robinson. Now, any further discussion? [1:41:03, 1:41:11]: All fair, please indicate. All right, thank you. That was quick. Alrighty. Embracing diversity. Ms. Gantt, please. [1:41:12, 1:41:32]: Um yes, Mayor Pro Tem. I'm actually going to table this discussion. It's a proclamation from the welcoming um diversity and that will be discussed at our next work session. Um Madam Clerk, if you don't mind. Correct. So we'll put it on there. Okay. Thank you. Okay. [1:41:31, 1:41:32]: [6092.5, 6096.7]: Table. Right. We don't need to vote on that. She's just I'll make the table. [1:41:37, 1:41:57]: Okay, and so next thing we partnership between the city of Stockbridge and KPN. Ms. Gamp, please. Yes, and Mr. Um Wilson is here actually. And in the past we've had discussions with our pre [1:41:57, 1:42:17]: Previous city manager on partnering with KPNO. KPN is a local organization that is within our school district as well as in the local community. They've presented themselves and have volunteered to entertain our citizens here at many of our City of Stockbridge events. KPM has asked us. [1:42:17, 1:42:37]: That we and and we are meeting, myself and Mr. Wilson have currently had a couple of meetings where we're trying to put together a City of Stockbridge orchestra. As you know, the arts and culture environment is very important to the City of Stockbridge, and it's something that we one of our goals is to [1:42:37, 1:42:57]: enhance that uh with a probab some type of cultural arts building hopefully. Um Mr. Wilson um attended our last event, our Christmas event, and they did a really great job. Um he has asked us uh for our support and assistance in an upcoming [1:42:57, 1:43:15]: event and asked that we waive the fees. It's a nonprofit organization asked us to waive the fees which is on January 20th, 2017. I have presented to you an email letter that he sent as 2018, sorry. January 20th, 2018 at 630 p.m. [1:43:16, 1:43:17]: Um [1:43:17, 1:43:37]: And it's a Stockbridge Winner Youth Concert on the on MLK birthday weekend. And it will be a combined effort to celebrate with K Piano as well as the city of Stockbridge. I think it's a wonderful opportunity for us. He also has camps in the summer and things that we're [1:43:37, 1:43:57]: We're working on that could actually provide somewhat of a profit a partnership in with the city of Stockbridge. He has spoken already to to our Sisi McGee as well as Econuel and others down at the Murray Mandas department. This date [1:43:57, 1:44:17]: is available. He's asking to he as you can see things that he stated he will do is secure the date for the event with Mermanders, invite local schools for participation, and solicit local businesses to provide advertisement and refreshments. The estimated amount of people that would attend were between three [1:44:17, 1:44:37]: hundred to five hundred people that includes all the local schools here as a partner in education for the city of Stockbridge and as a part and I think this is a great partnership for us. Um you know thanking him for his volunteer services in the past, whether it was Veterans Day or the Christmas parade I mean the parades or the Christmas uh [1:44:37, 1:44:50]: Um Gala, um we're I'm asking you for the support of allowing him to have the Myrtle Manders on January twentieth, twenty eighteen. Mr. Wilson, you're here to provide the information about KPN if you guys have any questions. [1:44:51, 1:44:59]: Mayor. Okay, uh yes ma'am, go right here, please. Yeah, I was gonna ask I was asking him to come forward and talk to us. Mr. Wilson, come on up to the mic, please. [1:45:02, 1:45:04]: Name and address once you get there. [1:45:06, 1:45:12]: This is a Kenneth Wilson, Monarch Village, 583 Creek Valley Court, Stockbridge, Georgia, 30281. Okay. [1:45:13, 1:45:13]: Go right here, please. [1:45:14, 1:45:33]: Um one, thank you, Mayor Pro Tent, Council members, I appreciate the opportunity. Um we're partnering it with Henry County Schools and as well as I guess I considered ourselves kind of a light partner with the city. Anytime you guys ask, it's a good opportunity for the kids and the parents to get active in the community. Um [1:45:33, 1:45:53]: About two or three years ago I was talking to the former uh city manager, Mike, about launching the Stockbridge City Youth Orchestra. Uh and that was the first time we started talking a while ago um and we talked about some other things that I was doing. The actual vision at that point was to begin to do more pro nonprofit work because uh [1:45:53, 1:45:55]: We were originally working with the school district. [1:45:55, 1:46:07]: And it felt like it might be a better fit to work directly with the community that was here. So that began that portion. Retch out and uh Councilwoman Gantt was helping us with guiding the process of presenting it. [1:46:08, 1:46:25]: Since that time we've made a lot of progress on identifying how to launch the orchestra. We have a ton of research in place on that as well as we have a team that's working on helping us get funding from a lot of different areas as well too that you put it in place. [1:46:25, 1:46:34]: the opportunity to launch a world a Stockbridge youth orchestra, the difference between kids playing pianos and putting a violin in their hands is world class. Um [1:46:35, 1:46:55]: world class prestige or the eyes looking. I'm sorry, I get a little nervous on this many people, but um to have kids between K and five playing violins, cellos, Bach, Beethoven, it opens them up to a lot of different things. Uh the other thing is with everything else disappearing, music and art scholarships are still in demand and they're less [1:46:55, 1:47:15]: kids qualified to get them. I think that from a personal standpoint I can promise you that I think there's not a better person in the world to run it than the team we have here in Stockbridge. From a business standpoint, our program's taught over 11,000 kids. We've raised and donated to the school district and we've got a parent [1:47:15, 1:47:26]: support group of close to about three to five hundred that are willing to support and donate. Um the goal for the event and actually councilwoman it was actually we changed the date to the 13th. Uh Mr. Canyol said that the 20th. [1:47:27, 1:47:47]: The 13th is actually uh I think that's MLK's birthday, which is what he called back and told me. That might have been afterwards, so I'm not sure if I sent an update. That would be the holiday weekend. The holiday weekend the holiday weekend. Yes, yes, okay. So to kind of let you know what the what the goal is on that date. Um my wife is also very active in fundraising in Atlanta with with some other things. [1:47:47, 1:48:07]: as well too, but we got a team of people together. Our goal is to raise enough money on that day uh to generate or at least get the core instruments. There's a lot that goes into building a youth orchestra that you wouldn't think of on the front end. One of it is the storage of the of the equipment, the maintenance, the actual infrastructure, the admin the admin. [1:48:07, 1:48:27]: Rehearsal space and all those things. So our goal is at least to generate enough money to get the core instruments, K piano, and uh the parent funded. The parents are willing to help out with the additional uh the additional expenditures on there. So we're not asking that the city for any expenditures. What we're asking is if possible just to either waive or decrease some of the cost. [1:48:27, 1:48:36]: for that facility, but uh we'll have corporate sponsors and everything else as well to come in as well as the people in the community to help us raise funds on that day. [1:48:36, 1:48:39]: Okay. Thank you, sir. Questions from the council? Yes. Go right ahead, please. [1:48:41, 1:49:01]: I'm excited because I remember we had the luncheon um with the schools and everybody so thank you for reaching out um and councilwoman Gantt working with him. We need this in our community and if we can bring anything positive to City of Stockbridge, we're open arms for that. I do [1:49:01, 1:49:21]: know there's another group um that also that's doing a symphony um and and I want to connect you guys because I think that will be awesome because they're trying to do something at Stockbridge High School and then that way if you can broaden it um for you know a little more that will be good. So I just want to do that connective connection with [1:49:21, 1:49:41]: with you guys but I'm excited. Um I'm all for this. Um and if there is anything I can do to help, you know, with my resources, I'm willing to assist you all or just whatever, just know you just call me and I'll be there to assist you if need be. One other comment in his email [1:49:41, 1:49:58]: it actually stated to mitigate fees associated with the rental of mermanders. We have parent volunteers who will assist in setting up, breaking down, and cleaning the facility. If there are any touch points or oversights, please let him know or he would be willing to add any other list of responsibilities. [1:49:58, 1:50:18]: Okay, anything from this side? Yes. Go back here, sir. I just want to say thank you. I appreciate it. I concur with the remarks that have been made. And I can honestly say you walk in the walk. You've had uh I've had several discussions with you, you've had this you've been very engaged in the city and uh been there every step of the way and we [1:50:18, 1:50:38]: seeing the fruits of your labor, which is tremendous. So I pre I I uh am in support of what we're trying to do. I just have one question uh for our city attorney is that we were looking at a policy uh about moral mandars and I can't recall whether we passed it or not, whether we [1:50:38, 1:50:51]: gonna allocate anything as far as that's concerned because there are costs associated with it, so we have not done anything as far as that was concerned. Okay. Well as far as if that's not a problem, then I'm for [1:50:52, 1:51:07]: I do have something for uh Mr. Williams. When we aren't we supposed to establish some type of partnership document when we do something like this? I think we've done that in the past, is that correct? We have a uh a template that we use whenever we enter into partnerships with with local organizations. [1:51:10, 1:51:16]: Something you wanted to move forward with work that out and and create the part. [1:51:18, 1:51:23]: Yeah we would certainly uh propose doing that if if that's the will of council and and [1:51:23, 1:51:43]: Okay. One last comment. I I do have a question. My and I did not disclose this. My daughter is in KPN after school program. So I I'm assuming I would have to recuse myself from voting if she's in the program. I'm not receiving any funds or anything. We've been working [1:51:43, 1:51:52]: on this before she was in the program. However, she is in the after school program s such as so many other kids. Well and it's That's not a conflict I don't think, is it? [1:51:53, 1:52:10]: It it's not a direct conflict, but it'd be the wise thing to just ma'am, go right ahead. Um I've been knowing him for a long time, so I don't as long as you have no uh interest in the actual project in your spot. [1:52:11, 1:52:20]: I'll I I'll make the motion to approve the use of the facility on January thirteenth, uh, upon the agreement with KPM. [1:52:21, 1:52:22]: Second. [1:52:22, 1:52:23]: Further discussion. [1:52:24, 1:52:25]: Yeah. Alrighty, sir. [1:52:26, 1:52:46]: Uh we talked about a policy to be put in place and and I I enjoy everything that you're doing. Let me put that out there. But one of the things I want to make sure that we cover with the city because when we open up a presidents for anything, I want to make sure we're covering ourselves with the city, that we what that partnership looks like and is there's any expenditures coming. [1:52:46, 1:53:00]: coming from the city for this when it comes to'cause I know someone has got to open the door and now we got a person that tends the Mermanders and I don't know what that cost is. So I I just wish w we would sit down and make sure that we're covering all our bases because [1:53:01, 1:53:21]: I love what you're doing. I've seen you do it. I just want to make sure we cover all our bases when we do these partnerships and when we bring these facilities forward for for anybody, whether it's you or anybody, that we're covering our basis and what precedence are we setting when we don't have those parameters covered. So hire whatever we need to put in place to cover those parameters. [1:53:21, 1:53:25]: I would that we would get that put in place. [1:53:26, 1:53:30]: immediately p prior to um this event happening. [1:53:31, 1:53:45]: Sir we'll we'll do our level best. You know normally we'd have more information prior so we could make sure there are no conflicts and what have you and a as we speak now I I can't say that with any um affinity. Um [1:53:46, 1:53:51]: Uh but the problem here as I understand is really timing because your next meeting [1:53:51, 1:53:54]: Days before the activity, if I understand correctly. [1:53:55, 1:53:58]: To our level best to make sure everything is is correct. [1:53:58, 1:54:00]: Well then it then follow ups [1:54:00, 1:54:12]: Mayor Party? Well go right ahead, sir. Then the follow-up would be then if we accept it tonight, put a contingency on it, w whatever you bring forward, then we can you can email that to us and we just do a consensus on that. [1:54:14, 1:54:18]: Would that be s would that be in in line? That should be fine. [1:54:19, 1:54:38]: Mayor Pratem, my okay. So uh just for clarification purposes, any out of pocket expensive costs expense cost, uh nominal cost that the city has to endure because they're utilizing the building, I'm assuming m I'm I'm sure K Piano will will pay for. [1:54:38, 1:54:38]: Okay. [1:54:39, 1:54:43]: All right, well the our next meeting after tonight was what January eighth, I believe it is. [1:54:44, 1:55:04]: Okay. All right. So on that note, the no other uh discussion points um take the vote for the motion. Uh the motion was made by Alexander and seconded by Robinson. Okay. All in favor of the motion, please indicate. All right, so we've got an unanimous decision. Thank you, sir. Happy holidays to you. Merry Christmas. All right. [1:55:04, 1:55:08]: All right, that leads us to uh comments. Uh City Manager, sir, do you have any comments? [1:55:09, 1:55:29]: Yes, um um and council I I did want to uh mention uh the passing of one of our city employees last week, Robert Manis, and certainly uh the city council, obviously city council and staff uh extend our support and condolences to um uh his family, um myself and um [1:55:30, 1:55:50]: Uh mayor and uh several staff members attended his service on uh Sunday and I'm sure that his family was was very pleased with the support uh from uh the city of Stockbridge. So I wanted to mention that. Second item um um I need to have and and would defer to uh Mike Williams uh [1:55:50, 1:55:54]: some additional time to talk about one issue that has come up recently with us. [1:55:57, 1:56:17]: Yeah. Uh we wanted to address one item with you and Camilla Moore as well as community development director can uh also speak to the issue. All right. So we're asking that you amend the agenda to add an item. An item is a moratorium on the establishment of any truck stop. [1:56:16, 1:56:35]: truck terminal or any other trucking related business as well as the acceptance of any applications relating to such businesses for a period of approximately 180 days. Um we there currently in our ordinance uh there are certain um [1:56:36, 1:56:56]: potential conflicts in the language that we currently uh in the commercial in the C one, the C two, we do not specifically allow uh those businesses uh in those uh zoning classifications, but we also have a supplemental set of standards that does allow [1:56:56, 1:57:16]: truck stops in our C one and C2 as well as our M1 zoning classification. And we believe it would be prudent to have a moratorium until we can resolve these and make sure that what is in the ordinance is what is intended by the Baron Council and the people of the city of Stockbridge. So we just [1:57:16, 1:57:24]: want to avoid having areas with a city developed for those purposes that are inconsistent with with what the wishes of the people are. [1:57:25, 1:57:43]: So this is actually the actual amendment to be part of the well the new business I would imagine, right? Well well yeah yes sir, but if we you all you could just put it anywhere in the agenda, but we'd need two votes, one to the to amend the agenda to allow the discussion and then uh uh assuming that passed and then a vote on the actual moratorium. [1:57:43, 1:57:44]: All right. [1:57:44, 1:57:46]: Well go go right ahead, please. [1:57:46, 1:58:02]: I move that we um amend the agenda to allow for discussion on a resolution from mayor and council to establish a moratorium on acceptance of applications for truck stocks, truck terminals, and other similar truck-related businesses in this. [1:58:03, 1:58:04]: All favor, please indicate. [1:58:05, 1:58:25]: Okay, there we have it. So you now you have a resolution before you um that would impose uh approximately a 180-day moratorium. It actually goes through July 1, 2018 to allow the staff to review your zoning code to appropriately address [1:58:25, 1:58:31]: That's where truck stops, truck terminals, and trucking related businesses can be established in the city of Stockbridge. [1:58:32, 1:58:34]: Mayor Pro Tem. Yes, Mayor, go right ahead. [1:58:35, 1:58:36]: I'm sorry. [1:58:36, 1:58:50]: I move that we approve the resolution of the Mayor and Council of the City of Stockbridge, Georgia, establishing a moratorium for 180 days on the acceptance of an application for truck stops, truck terminals, and other similar trucking related businesses of the city. [1:58:50, 1:58:51]: Thank you. [1:58:51, 1:58:56]: Okay, second by Ms. Robinson. Further discussion. Just a question for Ms. Moore. [1:58:57, 1:59:17]: Now we already have some protections already with the um corridor plan, correct? Trump stops along the corridor? [1:59:16, 1:59:36]: uh other everybody wants to come and so we have conflicts in the in the ordinances and we really need to one be consistent with where we want them and two if there are places where they should not be to make sure that we remove them and so we're gonna need this amount of time in order to remove [1:59:36, 1:59:47]: remove the conflicts and then establish an appropriate location for these type of uses. So within that hundred and eighty days we should have a resolution. Yes sir. Okay. [1:59:48, 2:00:08]: Yeah, any further questions? You have a question? Go right ahead, sir. Um real real quick, with this with this uh more um moratorium on on that, would that be for any business that are pre-tonight that what about the business if any business is pre-tonight that has already applied for the permits, would that be allowed or how does that how [2:00:08, 2:00:16]: How's that gonna work? Any pending applications we would have to go through in the normal process, but this stops the acceptance as of today. Okay. [2:00:17, 2:00:22]: Neil Point of Order. We need to have a disclosure about [2:00:22, 2:00:32]: the business that's been related to what you're s I mean we have we're talking about over here. So I I any discussion related to that I would prefer to have an executive session. Thank you. [2:00:33, 2:00:35]: Alrighty. Any further discussion? [2:00:36, 2:00:39]: Okay, we have a motion, we have a second, is that correct? [2:00:39, 2:00:41]: Okay, so all in favor, please indicate. [2:00:42, 2:01:02]: Okay. Okay. Good thing. Thank you very much. Uh at past five oh, uh Miss uh Clerk City Clerk, do you have any comments? I do I also wanted to uh offer my condolences with the loss of our colleague Robert Berness. I also wanted to say to the council that I am thrilled [2:01:02, 2:01:06]: and I commend this council for the staff that you've put together. [2:01:06, 2:01:16]: We have a great team. We all work well together. And I wanted to wish all of my colleagues and you all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. [2:01:17, 2:01:37]: Ms. Alexander, you're not a little bit more. Yes, I wanted to thank everybody for tuning in. Hopefully we were up in broadcasting tonight. As we move forward into the new year, we have endeavored to uh have that capability put in the um in the Levi room where we will be able to broadcast. [2:01:37, 2:01:57]: these meetings uh on the work session uh as well. So, you know, want to be able to make that readily available to the community so that anytime someone wants to see what's going on in these particular meetings that they will have access to it through all platforms. I want to remind everyone that we had during these times [2:01:57, 2:02:04]: in these last few shopping days that uh we must remain vigilant against those who would do harm to us. [2:02:04, 2:02:24]: Uh especially in online transactions. Uh we have a online safe internet online transaction location at the North Precinct at 4545 North Henry Boulevard that we established so for you to make safe online Craig lists, um any online purchases, whatever. [2:02:24, 2:02:44]: you would need to do to transact just a regular car sale if you need to. But please, please, please, during this holiday season and time, do not risk your safety when we have a safe location for you to transact any business. Do not meet anyone in uh in in uh in clandestine places and different things. [2:02:44, 2:03:04]: Meet at 4545 North Airway Boulevard. It's being videotaped, maintained, all of the above. And I just want to thank you all as we go through the year and uh we enter into the next chapter and hopefully uh please embrace the Keep Stock Roots Together movement. [2:03:04, 2:03:10]: where we want to remain one city together united as a diverse community. [2:03:11, 2:03:12]: Calm blood. [2:03:14, 2:03:34]: Yeah, I just want to say that um in my absence um on vacation last week when I got back um I had several business owners that have contacted me and that I've spoken with that wants to get involved with the community. And so we encouraged businesses that want to get involved with the community and want to do things in the community and it it is a joy to see [2:03:33, 2:03:53]: see that. Um and when we get involved with those businesses in the community, we let them know that we're business friendly. We thank them for wanting to get involved. Um I just thank everybody, I thank the staff for an awesome year. Um you guys seen a lot of changes, ups and downs, but you all stay cohesive and you hung in there. So I just want to commend you all for the [2:03:53, 2:04:00]: job that you've done and that you are doing. And uh just everybody be safe over the holidays and let's start a new year 2018. [2:04:01, 2:04:02]: That's what I'm getting. [2:04:03, 2:04:10]: Happy holidays and thank you staff. Thank you team. Thank you everyone. I look forward to a wonderful [2:04:10, 2:04:21]: Here next year. Um and we have some exciting things coming up. Just stay safe and and continue praying and and thank you for your support and prayers. [2:04:22, 2:04:23]: Councilwoman Robinson. [2:04:24, 2:04:27]: Yes, thank you, Mayor Pro Tem or Mayor Elect, sir. [2:04:27, 2:04:40]: Um I just want again give um condolences to the family of the passing of our um colleague here and also not just the family to the um [2:04:40, 2:04:49]: public works department um that worked hand in hand um with him so we definitely um give all of them our condolences as well. [2:04:50, 2:04:50]: Um [2:04:51, 2:05:01]: We work hard here. This council we worked hard, staff works hard, and my prayer for 2018 is that we work together. [2:05:03, 2:05:05]: I'm asking all the citizens. [2:05:05, 2:05:06]: To pray. [2:05:07, 2:05:09]: Real real prayers. [2:05:10, 2:05:11]: For this council. [2:05:12, 2:05:27]: So that way, going in twenty eighteen, we're a team. We're communicating, we're communicating, we're communicating. Because we as our clerk said, we put a great team together if we allow them to do [2:05:27, 2:05:28]: What we've got. [2:05:29, 2:05:34]: put them in position to do, this city will go higher and higher. [2:05:35, 2:05:49]: But the negativity, it must leave the city of Stockbridge. We must support one another. We must make sure that whatever we do is going to represent this city. [2:05:50, 2:06:10]: We can't be over on one side and then on another side. Again, I'm asking for our citizens to pray for us because it's a lot for us to do for our constituents and to allow the staff to show us exactly what we put. [2:06:10, 2:06:13]: So again [2:06:14, 2:06:22]: Just pray. And I just want to say Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to each and everyone in the city of Stockbridge. Thank you. [2:06:22, 2:06:42]: Thank you. Um I tell you what citizens, um about three weeks ago I made a um a uh a bet. Asia Ashley was a government employee, a government uh reporter, I'm sorry, um, is an Auburn grad and uh what happened is that um I'm an Alabama fan and uh [2:06:42, 2:07:02]: Um Auburn beat Alabama in the iron bowl and I'm supposed to publicly announce the fact my hat's off to Auburn for beating the broad tide nation. So I'm now doing that three weeks later. And she's not here but she can look at the tape and find out that I I acknowledge the fact that Auburn beat Alabama this year. Next year it'll be in Tuscaloosa. Now [2:07:02, 2:07:22]: Our next meeting uh is January 8th, 2018. And that happens to be the same night that the national championship for Division I football is conducted right now, downtown area in the Mercedes-Benz Stadium. So for you UGA fans, I will tell you, I would like to see you UGA fans, the Bulldogs, and that. [2:07:22, 2:07:42]: national championship playing the road tide nation. Wouldn't that be fantastic? All right. Happy holidays everybody. Have a wonderful holiday with your family and friends and relatives. Uh we will continue to move the city forward. Keep the faith. We wanna m we want to do the right thing logically and transparently here in a sense. And [2:07:42, 2:08:02]: And uh we're gonna do that. The council is gonna collectively as a group, and and to 2018 is gonna be very successful. We're off the chain and you will see that. Condolences once again to uh Robert Matt Matsis, if I got the name pronounced right and his family. Unfortunately, for his passing. And uh know that the the the not only the city but the public works department uh wrapped our arms around the city. [2:08:02, 2:08:12]: that family and continue keeping them in prayers. Uh in that note I want to tell you, see you next year. God bless you all and enjoy your holidays. Thank you. [2:08:13, 2:08:22]: Now on that note, uh I know that we have executive session. We have several different items to go into executive session. Uh so I would need uh I [2:08:24, 2:08:34]: Okay, personnel litigation real estate. I need a motion please. Mayor Pratem mayor like to I um ask that we go I move that we go into an executive session for personnel, real estate, and litigation. Okay, is there a second? [2:08:35, 2:08:39]: All right, uh in discussion. All in favor, please indicate. All right, thank you. [2:09:16, 2:09:18]: Yeah. [2:09:20, 2:09:23]: [7764.9, 7784.9]: [2:09:44, 2:09:48]: And that's not like [2:10:05, 2:10:15]: And really that's it, and [2:10:16, 2:10:25]: [7835.0, 7836.7]: Almost. [2:10:38, 2:10:41]: Well we don't know. [2:11:25, 2:11:27]: [7887.8, 7890.1]: Oh my god, just [2:11:43, 2:11:43]: Yeah. [3:21:53, 3:21:57]: All right, Council, I need a motion to end executive session. [3:21:58, 3:21:59]: Some moved. [3:21:59, 3:22:00]: Their second. [3:22:00, 3:22:05]: There you go, second over here with Alexander. Okay. Discussion? [3:22:06, 3:22:07]: All in favor, please indicate. [3:22:08, 3:22:09]: Okay. [3:22:09, 3:22:12]: I need a motion to reconvene or [3:22:13, 3:22:17]: Council work session. So move. A second. [3:22:17, 3:22:18]: Can't [3:22:19, 3:22:20]: Any discussion? [3:22:21, 3:22:22]: All in favor? [3:22:23, 3:22:24]: Okay. [3:22:25, 3:22:30]: Now I need a motion to end our work session and and have Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. [3:22:30, 3:22:41]: Merry Christmas and a motion to adjourn. Okay. My second left. We go any discussion? All in favor, please indicate. Yes. Okay. We're done. [3:22:41, 3:22:45]: Yeah.

--- title: December 11 2017 City Council Meeting date: 2017-12-11 source: 2017-12-11_December_11_2017_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:01, 0:00:21]: If I could uh possibly have your attention please real quickly. As twenty seventeen comes to a close, we at the City of Stockbridge want to say a super thank you to all of you because of your partnership with us. The City of Stockbridge was able to present to itself [0:00:21, 0:00:41]: citizens with many many successful excuse me events this year because of the partners in the community that we are so grateful to have. We appreciate your loyalty and your commitment to the city of Stockbridge and we are truly thankful for those many [0:00:41, 0:01:01]: Partnerships. We thank you for everything you've done. We are wishing you a wonderful 2018 and we hope that we can maintain those warm partnerships that we formed with you throughout the year. Tonight we are stopping to talk about. [0:01:01, 0:01:21]: Two particular groups of volunteers we've had. These are certainly not the only volunteers that have helped us, but they are the ones that have volunteered through their businesses something to support us or they have volunteered their time to come and work at our events. [0:01:21, 0:01:41]: Thing we're gonna do is recognize some that have participated through the special events team, and the special events team in Stockbridge is tasked with many special events, so we're gonna call off all the wonderful business folks. [0:01:41, 0:01:43]: that helped. We're going to start with [0:01:44, 0:02:04]: And we're going to ask you if you will just stay seated for the moment. But once we go through all of this, we're going to regroup and then we're going to take some photographs individually with each of you with our special events team and some of our city people as they arrive. And for our 2017 events team partner. [0:02:04, 0:02:24]: Partnerships that helped the special events team. They were Mrs. Winter's Carwas Italian Grill, Golden Crust, the Italian Oven, Olympia Pizza House, Outback State House, Alan Vigil Ford, Georgia National Hispanic Heritage Association. [0:02:24, 0:02:28]: Association, Bimbo Bakeries, USA. [0:02:28, 0:02:33]: Holly Sweet Donuts, Georgia Power Company, L [0:02:36, 0:02:56]: Granero. I knew I was going to stumble on that one. El Granero's Restaurant, Piedmont Henry Hospital, K Piana. This is it, Barbecue and Seafood, iHeart Radio, Radio 1 Atlanta, Walmart Stores, number 745 and 3402, Waste Industry. [0:02:56, 0:03:11]: Henry County Times and the Henry Neighbor newspapers. So if any of the people from that list are in the room, I would like for you as collectively just stand for the moment and let the others recognize you. [0:03:21, 0:03:41]: Okay, thank you. We're gonna now ask you to sit for a moment. Let us read. Um we had many volunteers that also volunteered um with our Main Street program. And I'm gonna ask um that you stay seated until I've called all these names, and then we're gonna ask you to stand. Some of you may be standing twice. [0:03:41, 0:04:01]: I do not know. Barn Beautiful, Bridgeville Country Cooking. That is also the same owner as Olympia Pizza. Chick-fil-A at Eagles Landing, Cochrane Public Library, Food Depot, Stockbridge, Henry County Library System. [0:04:01, 0:04:19]: Group Publics at Stockbridge Lakes, Stockbridge Florest, and the Stockbridge Jonesboro Alumni chapter of Kappa Alpha 5 Fraternity Inc. And so at this time, if any of those are in the audience, would you please stand? [0:04:26, 0:04:46]: Thank you, thank you. And we had a few volunteers and I want to say immediately that if your name was left off of this list, it's probably gonna pop up on another list. But all of our volunteers uh who have worked these events, um, we just couldn't do the events without you. And there's several that [0:04:46, 0:05:06]: are around a lot and we want to call their names at this time. One is Mary Jo Blount, Betty Bryant, Linda Jones, and Valerie Sims. We see their faces uh quite often and I'd like for any of them to stand. I know I see at least one in our group, Linda back here. [0:05:10, 0:05:10]: Thank you. [0:05:11, 0:05:31]: Linda also serves on our Main Street board, but uh she goes beyond Main Street and volunteers for other city events. So we especially thank you and so do the uh owners of Barn Beautiful and we thank you for that also and probably many others. Um at this time we're gonna call you up one at a time and if anyone [0:05:31, 0:05:51]: from the businesses here. We're going to start by calling them up first. And I'm going to call them quick. So if you're here, stand up and let me know. And then if you would come forward and we'll get right here. Where do y'all want to do the photos? All right out front? Okay. All right. We're going to call Mrs. Winter. [0:05:51, 0:05:51]: Yeah. [0:05:53, 0:06:03]: Okay? If they're not here, we'll take care of them and make sure we get their um awards to them later. So we're starting with Mrs. Winters. Then Carava's Italian Grill. [0:06:05, 0:06:06]: Golden Quest? [0:06:08, 0:06:09]: The Italian oven. [0:06:10, 0:06:13]: A lengthy pizza. [0:06:13, 0:06:19]: Uh Outback Steakhouse. I know that Outback's here. Yay for Outback. [0:06:27, 0:06:30]: All our special events, people, jump in real quick. [0:06:37, 0:06:38]: Thank you. [0:06:39, 0:06:42]: Okay, now then um Alan Vigil Ford. [0:06:53, 0:06:54]: First. [0:06:57, 0:06:58]: Not this here. [0:07:04, 0:07:16]: So much for all y'all do to help. Thank you. My pleasure. Thank thank you so much. Now, Georgia National Hispanic Heritage Association. [0:07:17, 0:07:22]: Okay. Uh Bimbo Bakeries. I know they're here. Bimbo Break Bakeries? [0:07:23, 0:07:26]: Oh, herity? Okay. Hold on just a minute. [0:07:52, 0:07:57]: Okay, now we'll take bimbo bakeries. That's a tongue twister, you know what? [0:07:57, 0:07:57]: Yeah. [0:08:03, 0:08:14]: In case you don't know where their parent headquarters are located, it's directly across from the GBI. So if you're up there in trouble just when you get out, just go across the street to Bimbo Bakeries. Right. [0:08:16, 0:08:17]: Yeah. [0:08:21, 0:08:23]: It was so nice to meet you. [0:08:25, 0:08:28]: Okay, Holly Sweet Donuts. [0:08:30, 0:08:31]: Mm-hmm. [0:08:32, 0:08:32]: Holly. [0:08:33, 0:08:37]: Holy, holy. Like the hole in the donut. I got it. [0:08:38, 0:08:44]: Well I I must admit I may not be able to pronounce it right, but I have eaten one and they're very good. Very good. [0:08:56, 0:08:58]: Georgia Power Company. [0:08:58, 0:09:00]: Oh right, we got Georgia Power. [0:09:05, 0:09:25]: I I'm going to give uh Georgia Power Company a little plug from the past. Many years ago I ran a state agency and we were hosting a regional meeting and we were doing it with zero-dollar balance. We had no money to entertain a lot of people from about 15 different southern states. [0:09:25, 0:09:45]: States. And so we had to get very creative, very fast. And one of the things I happened to think about was that Georgia Power was pushing their electric vehicles. So we called Georgia Power and they sent us a driver and a great big bus and took our people all over Atlanta and made them look so [0:09:45, 0:09:52]: I mean made us look good, but it really made Georgia Power look good. So I just want to put that extra plug in. Thank you very much. [0:09:57, 0:09:58]: Appreciate you. [0:10:04, 0:10:07]: Okay, now then we're back to L [0:10:10, 0:10:12]: El banero's restaurant. [0:10:15, 0:10:19]: Well you would think I could get it right up a second ago, wouldn't you? [0:10:47, 0:10:51]: Okay. Henry Hospital. I saw their rep here. [0:11:08, 0:11:20]: We appreciate our local hospital. That's why we stay in this community. They're about two to five minutes away from all of us and we love knowing they're there. Uh now we are calling up K Piano. [0:11:26, 0:11:40]: If those of you in the audience have not seen K Piano students perform, you have missed it. And we appreciate what they do to bring music to our local community and train our children in the field of music. [0:11:53, 0:11:54]: Yeah, yeah. [0:11:59, 0:12:00]: Getting a call. [0:12:02, 0:12:05]: Uh this is it, barbecue and seafood. [0:12:13, 0:12:20]: I I understand that um we are opening up a new location in the city of Stockbridge. [0:12:20, 0:12:36]: All right. Would you like to tell us what that address is gonna be and when you're opening? Uh fifty-five seventy North Henry Boulevard, uh right in front of Walmart, next to T Mobile, and we're looking to open up by the first of February. [0:12:36, 0:12:37]: Okay. [0:12:49, 0:12:55]: Uh next we're going to ask if anyone from IHART Radio is in the Yes. [0:13:11, 0:13:12]: Here we go. [0:13:19, 0:13:39]: We appreciate what you do for us. Thank you. Thank you. Thank I'd like to thank my family, my wife, for coming to every single event that every radio station that I have had at the for Power 961, Elpatron, her and all of her family have been at every single event, and that's like twenty-two people. So thank you. [0:13:39, 0:13:40]: But [0:13:43, 0:13:49]: It takes a good woman behind every good man, so we appreciate you a lot. [0:13:50, 0:14:04]: This is like um elected officials. I don't really consider myself one. I worked in government for a long time, so I'm used to government. But when you see an elected official, I would encourage you to thank their spouse. [0:14:04, 0:14:24]: Because their spouses have to give up a tremendous amount for people to serve in public office. And um I just can't tell you the people that I have such high regard for. It's more the wives, they they give everything. And so uh William, thank you for bringing your wife tonight. We appreciate that. [0:14:25, 0:14:28]: Okay, Radio 1, Atlanta. [0:14:30, 0:14:35]: Nobody? Okay. Uh next Walmart store number seven forty five. [0:14:36, 0:14:40]: Or Walmart Store 3402. [0:14:41, 0:14:50]: I can imagine that it's Christmas time. They're probably a little busy tonight. Didn't get to come. Um our friend from Waste Industries is here. We're gonna call him up. [0:14:58, 0:14:58]: Yeah. [0:15:14, 0:15:25]: And next we're gonna ask for the Henry County Times. We have anybody here from the Times. If not, how about the Henry Neighbor newspaper I know we have, Maureen? [0:15:30, 0:15:35]: Be good tonight or Noreen might write about you, so [0:15:36, 0:15:45]: We appreciate all the good publicity she gives our city. Thank you. We're glad to have um our city council member, Elton Alexander, joining us. [0:15:51, 0:15:54]: Thank you. [0:15:59, 0:16:15]: Okay, at this time we're gonna start now with our group. Let's stop, I tell you what let's do, let's stop and do our volunteers and I believe unless somebody else has come in um that we're gonna ask um Linda to come up. I know she's here. [0:16:17, 0:16:19]: I know Charlie come too since she's hungry. [0:16:20, 0:16:27]: We're gonna ask our main street directors to come up since Linda's on their board. Why don't we put you in the middle? [0:16:30, 0:16:31]: Here we go. [0:16:31, 0:16:35]: Call us people on the end. You guys. Come on. [0:16:43, 0:16:44]: One more. [0:16:54, 0:17:14]: Okay, now we're gonna start on our Main Street program partnership list and we're gonna start with one of our new stores in town. Oh sorry. Okay, they tell me that I overlooked one uh volunteer is this volunteer? Okay. We had another volunteer but she we didn't call her name Cecilia Green and we're [0:17:14, 0:17:15]: gonna have her come out. [0:17:24, 0:17:30]: How about somebody down here with me? [0:17:30, 0:17:31]: Yeah okay. [0:17:32, 0:17:34]: Let's get it. [0:17:35, 0:17:38]: Hallelujah. One more. [0:17:40, 0:17:41]: Okay. [0:17:45, 0:17:46]: Yeah. [0:17:46, 0:17:50]: Sorry, my bad. But you're good. Okay. [0:17:51, 0:18:11]: Okay, now then we're going to start with all of our businesses that have contributed so much to us. Um and this is from the Main Street program list uh partnerships and we're going to start with one of our favorite businesses. Not that they all aren't favorite, but one of our new businesses that's just kind of blown away the whole town. If you have [0:18:11, 0:18:31]: haven't been to Barn Beautiful, I'm not gonna ask you to raise your hand and admit it. I'm just gonna tell you that if we can get Roger to come up from Barn Beautiful, there is a fabulous new store directly under the bridge in Stockbridge, and you've got to stop off its next door to Rod Oaklesby's um really [0:18:31, 0:18:41]: estate office and his name is on the side of his building so just go to Rod's building and you'll be next door. Come on up Roger. Thank you for all you've done for the community. [0:18:45, 0:18:47]: [1131.9, 1132.8]: One more. [0:18:57, 0:18:59]: Thank you very much. [0:19:01, 0:19:05]: Now the next one is Bridgeville Country Cooking. [0:19:06, 0:19:10]: I don't think I see anybody out there. Uh Chick-fil-A at Eagles Landing. [0:19:13, 0:19:16]: Um Cochrane Public Library. We have two [0:19:17, 0:19:20]: You wanna come up, our chief librarian, come too? [0:19:22, 0:19:28]: We'll make one with just our director at the library and then we'll make one of y'all together. How about that? [0:19:33, 0:19:37]: Move towards the center. If y'all can move towards the center, yeah. [0:19:38, 0:19:39]: Uh huh. [0:19:40, 0:19:42]: [1184.7, 1186.3]: One, two, three. [0:19:47, 0:19:48]: One more. [0:19:51, 0:19:59]: take Carolyn out just for a minute and make one with just Jacqueline, our chief librarian, and then we're going to do one with Carolyn. [0:20:01, 0:20:03]: More. [0:20:03, 0:20:05]: Okay. [0:20:06, 0:20:16]: Jackie's out and Carolyn's in. Carolyn is our county librarian and Jacqueline runs the Stockbridge Library. [0:20:18, 0:20:19]: Obviously work together. [0:20:20, 0:20:22]: One, two, three. [0:20:23, 0:20:24]: One more. [0:20:26, 0:20:27]: Thank you so much. [0:20:31, 0:20:34]: Mm-hmm. Now then, how about Food Depot Stockbridge? [0:20:36, 0:20:41]: Councilman Ford, would you like to pop in and get in some of these photos? [0:20:42, 0:20:42]: Mm-hmm. [0:20:45, 0:20:55]: Food Depot. Anybody from Food Depot. Okay. Uh Henry County, we did the library system with Carolyn. Uh intercom group. [0:20:55, 0:20:57]: Anyone from intercom group? [0:20:58, 0:21:01]: Okay, publics at Stockbridge Lakes. [0:21:03, 0:21:04]: Eh? [0:21:04, 0:21:07]: Stockbridge Forest. There in the back. [0:21:08, 0:21:09]: Regina Meeks. [0:21:25, 0:21:28]: Now I'm gonna brag on her just a little bit. [0:21:29, 0:21:29]: Yeah. [0:21:30, 0:21:43]: If if if you haven't been by Regina's shop, go see it and she can decorate the best Christmas tree you have ever seen in your life. So if you ever need to be tweaked, she can do that for you. [0:21:45, 0:21:49]: One, two, three. One more. One, two, three. [0:21:51, 0:21:53]: [1314.5, 1315.3]: Yeah, yeah. [0:22:00, 0:22:08]: The next is the Stockbridge Jonesboro alumni chapter of the Kappa Alphas. Any of the Cap Kappa Alphas in the room. [0:22:09, 0:22:22]: They are not here, but they helped us with the little library group, um, a little library, um, the new little library. Would you like to tell the audience about the new little library? Sure. It's brand new this week. [0:22:22, 0:22:42]: Good evening everyone. Um I'd love to announce to all of you that we do have a second Little Free Library, which is a part of the Main Street Little Free Library project that we've started here in Stockbridge. That library is located in Clark Community Park by the new inclusive playground equipment. So we invite all [0:22:42, 0:23:02]: of you to go and take a peep at that and if you have young children or um middle schoolers we do have um children's books in that particular location we're going to dedicate that particular location only to children's books and um I would like to give a shout out to Cochrane Public Library in the [0:23:02, 0:23:12]: Henry County Library System because they also donated books to this particular project as well. So please stop by and visit. Thank you. [0:23:16, 0:23:20]: That concludes the um awards. Let's see, we have one more. [0:23:21, 0:23:23]: Oh did I not call them? [0:23:23, 0:23:32]: Oh, they just got here. Okay, so Golden Crust, Caribbean Bakery and Grill. So if anyone from there is here. [0:23:40, 0:23:41]: Oh we could wait. [0:23:43, 0:23:50]: All right. Perfect. Thank you. Come in a little bit. [0:23:57, 0:23:59]: Two, three. [0:23:59, 0:24:00]: One more? [0:24:06, 0:24:20]: It is so nice to meet you. We are delighted. Where's your grill? What's the address? I don't know what happened. [0:24:22, 0:24:42]: Okay. The grill we're told is at 2047 Mount Sin Road. So anyone that wants some Caribbean food, just uh check it out. Thank you. We cannot say thank you enough to all of you, whether you come and volunteer for an event or whether you provide a service or a food product or whatever. [0:24:42, 0:24:47]: Whatever it might be, all we can say is thank you on behalf of the city. Thank you. [0:25:07, 0:25:15]: [1515.2, 1528.0]: No, but I think that's what we're looking for. [0:25:30, 0:25:40]: Okay, uh maybe we should have [0:25:45, 0:25:55]: I was gonna get someone to actually take the output. [0:26:05, 0:26:25]: Is that your uh is that your place for the page? Nope. No? Nope. Is it Randy's? No. I don't think so. I was gonna c uh see, does he still want that one? Well I got them both up. I think they're gonna withdraw that one. [0:26:25, 0:26:40]: I think one of them's gonna withdraw. Yeah, such an email. [0:26:50, 0:27:00]: Oh the uh street. [0:27:00, 0:27:05]: Yeah, very changing. [0:27:16, 0:27:24]: It's eight to three in a moment. Or eight of eight to three. Yes, yes. [0:27:26, 0:27:46]: Oh, um I will tell you I've got the first one I'll uh if you if you want me to add a small model here, I'll do this turn. Okay. All you gotta do is turn [0:27:45, 0:28:01]: We've done this so many times. What I may do is just go over the major features of this. Yeah. What they're requesting. [0:28:03, 0:28:05]: Rezoning from M1 to Yeah. [0:28:07, 0:28:27]: Okay. Oh you moved at the single. You well there's that one. I I haven't [0:28:27, 0:28:36]: In the red, are you sure? She's a minister. And the other one is too, right? In the other back church. I know. I know. [0:28:37, 0:28:49]: That's why we shouldn't have to do that. It's a video of your phone. [0:28:49, 0:29:09]: It's not pretty good. [0:29:09, 0:29:29]: Insurance or that's how you know I didn't know this. I just landed I was out of uh town. I was out of state, so I went really quick to just put something on and come in here and say hi to everybody. [0:29:29, 0:29:49]: So you've been okay. You ready to go down? Sure. This is a good thing. I need to let things down. Yeah, that's great. Let me give my friend a hug. [0:29:49, 0:29:50]: Yeah. [0:30:06, 0:30:26]: I gotta be in there my. [0:30:26, 0:30:40]: Good to see you. Same time. [0:30:41, 0:30:45]: I feel it was a little bit more. [0:30:48, 0:30:49]: [1855.0, 1871.1]: Good to see you, man. [0:31:15, 0:31:25]: [1898.2, 1900.0]: [0:31:42, 0:31:43]: Yeah. [0:32:06, 0:32:26]: Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to get started. We're starting about six minutes after six o'clock, and uh we're going to start with our call to order and begin with our invocation and our city manager Randy Knighton is going to bring our invitation. [0:32:25, 0:32:31]: to us this evening and afterwards if you would all stand for the pledge to the American flag. [0:32:35, 0:32:55]: Let us pray. Most gracious and all wise God, we are so thankful for your blessings and to be in your presence this evening. We thank you for the blessings of living in this great nation where we can enjoy freedoms and liberties granted unto us from you. We thank you for the mayor and council. [0:32:55, 0:33:15]: Council, we pray that you would endow them with wisdom as they consider the very important matters of city governance. We pray your blessings upon the City of Stockbridge, the staff, and all citizens. And during this time of year, we're also thankful for the most precious gift that has ever been given to humanity. [0:33:15, 0:33:18]: which is your Son Christ Jesus. [0:33:18, 0:33:20]: In his name we pray. [0:33:20, 0:33:22]: Amen. [0:33:24, 0:33:26]: Pretty diligence in play. [0:33:28, 0:33:37]: America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under dog, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. [0:33:41, 0:33:46]: At this time we'll ask our clerk, uh Vanessa Holliday, if she would please to call the roll. [0:33:46, 0:33:49]: Councilman Alexander. Councilman Blount. [0:33:51, 0:34:06]: Let the record reflect Councilman Blount is not in attendance. Mayor Neal. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilwoman Robinson? Present. Mayor Neal, you have a quorum. Thank you. At this time I need a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:34:07, 0:34:18]: Mayor Neal, I'll make a motion to adopt the agenda. Thank you, Ms. Robinson. Do I hear a second? Second. We have a motion and a second for the agenda. I'll in or is there any discussion? [0:34:18, 0:34:20]: If not, all in favor? [0:34:22, 0:34:40]: Thank you for your vote. At this time we'll have adoption of minutes for the following meetings, October 9th, 2017, a special call meeting, October 24th, 2017, and our work session meeting 1024, 2017. [0:34:40, 0:34:42]: Do I have a motion? [0:34:43, 0:34:44]: Don't move. [0:34:44, 0:34:47]: We have a motion for Mr. Ford. Do I hear a second? [0:34:47, 0:34:51]: Second. We have a second. Is there discussion? [0:34:52, 0:34:54]: If not, all in favor. [0:34:55, 0:34:57]: Thank each of you for your vote. [0:34:58, 0:35:00]: At this time um [0:35:02, 0:35:22]: Okay, this item for ceremonial review was first on the agenda and moved um per our clerk to 530 this afternoon and that has already taken place. At this time, uh Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? There are no public comments. [0:35:22, 0:35:36]: No public comments tonight. Okay. We have a presentation that is going to be presented. It's Keep America Beautiful program and it will be presented by Councilmember Alexander and Gordon Burkett. [0:35:39, 0:35:43]: Come on up, Mr Merker, to the um to the podium. [0:35:46, 0:35:50]: First of all he comes and we make arrangements, if I could, Mayor. [0:35:51, 0:36:11]: Thanks, I want to thank you. I'm presenting Gordon Merquette of Kate DeCab Beautiful. And um I like to uh I invited uh Gordon down to be able to speak on the program, the Kate Beautiful program, uh so that we could have a coordinated program or we could hear some ideas behind [0:36:11, 0:36:31]: I internationally coordinated program with um uh Keep America Beautiful. I have the distinction of serving on the Arabia Mountain Heritage Board uh with Mr. Burkett and he serves with distinction. So I appreciate him coming down here tonight uh to be able to provide this information for us uh because we want [0:36:31, 0:36:35]: Mr Gordon Burkett. [0:36:36, 0:36:52]: All right, good evening everyone. And I appreciate the opportunity to be here this evening. I'm going to be very brief, but I'm going to tell you right now, my father is an ordained minister. And so if I go long, just wave me off and I'm happy to end up there. [0:36:53, 0:37:13]: I I always have um great interest in coming out and talking about uh the Keep America Beautiful program. I I believe it's all about mom, apple pie, and the American dream all wrapped into one very nice package. And it does not, it's not a one-size-fits-all situation. It all depends on your [0:37:13, 0:37:25]: situation. So what I'm going to do tonight is go very briefly over what we do in our organization today and then talk about some of the opportunities that are there and then next steps. [0:37:26, 0:37:26]: Okay. [0:37:27, 0:37:47]: So our mission statement is pretty straightforward. Our mission is to promote clean, attractive, sustainable communities. We accomplish this through empowerment, community partnerships, regular maintenance, and educational opportunities. I saw your uh your mission statement earlier, and uh I thought that ours fits very closely to yours as [0:37:47, 0:38:05]: as well. So I think this might be a good fit for you. And this picture here, I have uh, you know, I always like to present big checks. I don't know about you all. But as a part of our process, we're able to give away funds uh to worthy groups. Uh this one is for, I'm sorry. [0:38:06, 0:38:09]: Yes. Don't want to hand out these two? Can you hand these out for me? [0:38:10, 0:38:11]: I'm sorry. [0:38:12, 0:38:13]: Okay. [0:38:13, 0:38:21]: On the screen there we have our presentation, but uh this is us presenting a check to uh the city of Brookhaven uh in October. [0:38:21, 0:38:31]: uh to celebrate uh a linear park that they're doing on the North Fork Peachtree Creek. And we're gonna continue to help them uh develop that along the way here. [0:38:35, 0:38:37]: Um why consider starting an affiliate? [0:38:38, 0:38:53]: Um it provides great access to a network of professionals throughout the country that have best practices. So anything that you have a concern about, they haven't uh somebody else has the same concern or issue that you can go and talk to. [0:38:54, 0:38:57]: uh and find out how they've addressed it and apply it here. [0:38:57, 0:39:07]: Um I find that to be very helpful. It's also a platform to coordinate, educate, and mobilize and empower community members. So it's people coming together. [0:39:08, 0:39:11]: Um I like to think of it like a farm team. One of the things [0:39:12, 0:39:13]: Kind of that water by chance there. [0:39:14, 0:39:14]: Thank you. [0:39:21, 0:39:22]: Okay. [0:39:24, 0:39:26]: I like to think of it like a farm team. [0:39:26, 0:39:32]: So it's an opportunity to bring people out that may not be engaged civically already. [0:39:32, 0:39:47]: We bring them in on a cleanup event or something that's in their community that they're concerned about, and then we get an opportunity to get to know them. Then through the organization, we're able to train them, bring them up to speed, give them additional tool sets. [0:39:47, 0:40:05]: And then those are the folks that become your new leaders in your organizations, your homeowners associations, your neighborhood watches, even city council members. But it's an opportunity to get started and learn how the process works right in your neighborhood right today. [0:40:06, 0:40:26]: Um we do a lot of branding. That's a critical piece as well. A consistent message that focuses and educates people about specific topics of interest to our people is a critical thing that we do. Obviously, ours is beautification. And it's also a very low-cost, high return process. [0:40:27, 0:40:47]: Um there are a different number of different structures that you can do. Ours is what you call a hybrid, so we have a uh a 501 nonprofit as well as we're uh a department within the CAB County government. Um that provides a lot of flexibility for us and up also the opportunity to go after uh different policies. [0:40:47, 0:40:53]: pots of money that we would not necessarily be available to if we had one or the other. [0:40:54, 0:40:56]: and also additional resources. [0:40:56, 0:40:58]: Um what we do [0:40:58, 0:41:13]: a lot of is going out and evaluate um the conditions of roads and streets and things. So we take out community people on a regular basis and then we go out and evaluate things. So we look at litter, we look at graffiti. [0:41:14, 0:41:20]: uh how the curb cuts are looking, uh any debris that's out there, um illegal. [0:41:20, 0:41:40]: dumpings and things like that, we look for that kind of material as well over a period of time. And then based upon that information we use that to provide additional treatments in those areas. So if we see that there's an issue with litter in a particular area and we have our own crews to do some work and I'll talk a little bit about that too. [0:41:40, 0:42:00]: We may supplement that with volunteers or we may have a little crackdown in that area. It all depends on what the conditions are. But again, our goal over time is to improve the overall conditions, the look and feel of every neighborhood. [0:42:00, 0:42:04]: every street in our community that we serve over time. [0:42:06, 0:42:07]: Okay, here [0:42:08, 0:42:28]: We have our internal crews, so I have a staff of very blessed. I'm going to say that right now, because I have a very large staff of about 80 people. And we're out every day. We're the ones who do all the stuff that nobody else wants to do. So all the things that fall into the categories that are not a category. So for instance, [0:42:28, 0:42:48]: if you saw on TV last week uh that we had 10,000 tires dumped in a neighborhood. That was us that took care of that project. We do stuff like that every day. So on average we probably pull out about 12 to 15,000 tires a year that are dumped throughout the the county. So it's a pretty big job. [0:42:49, 0:43:00]: Um this is really where I wanted you to focus though. This is what we get from our volunteers. We average about 5,000 volunteer hours every single month. [0:43:00, 0:43:20]: every single month. If you you know do a quick math on that,$10 an hour,$5,000 hours that I'm not paying for to make our areas look and feel better than they did before we got out there is an incredible feat. So just in October, those folks removed over 24,000 pounds of material. [0:43:20, 0:43:31]: from our streams, public spaces, and any places that are in the public realm. I think that's a that's a really good thing for us and a great story to tell taxpayers. [0:43:33, 0:43:44]: Again, if you see the the branding on there. But we're all in in different times, types of other activities as well. So this is our breast cancer event. We do that every year as well. We do all the background information on that. [0:43:46, 0:43:47]: Um [0:43:47, 0:44:07]: We work with other groups. This is where we really add value here. So we kind of uh partner actually every project that we do is in partnership. So we never do anything on our own. So this is a group that's new to Atlanta, Envision Atlanta, and they brought 150 volunteers out to a park. And in one [0:44:07, 0:44:23]: day we you know went and cleaned up a number of things the community gardens and some areas that we uh were simply underuse until we had this group come in. This is a lot of power. This group comes out multiple times a year. [0:44:23, 0:44:29]: So we work with a lot of different groups like this and they say, hey Gordon, what do you need done? [0:44:29, 0:44:30]: I say, what do you want to do? [0:44:31, 0:44:51]: Simple as that, how many people you have, uh, what do you want to do? How much time do you have? And then we fit them into a project because we also have partners that are looking for volunteers. So our most important value that we bring, we're the intermediary. We connect the groups together. [0:44:51, 0:44:53]: um and make it happen. [0:44:54, 0:44:57]: Um again a g a a critical piece of what we do is educate [0:44:58, 0:45:03]: Um and as a part of that, you know, we found ourselves um [0:45:03, 0:45:13]: doing a lot of other things. So this is one of the uh rainbow workshops that we did at Arabian Mountain uh in October. [0:45:14, 0:45:18]: We did uh actually we've done seven. We did seven this year. [0:45:18, 0:45:38]: So about 80, about 80 people we made rain barrels for. And we ended up getting a sponsorship for this thing. So everything's paid for. Barrels come from Coca-Cola. And what we were able to do is then give this money, any of the tuition that we collect, away to a nonprofit that's our partner on there. [0:45:38, 0:45:58]: So in that first picture you saw on the first slide, we were able to give away$600, you know, to a group. Now that's not a whole lot of money, but that's$600 more dollars than they had before we got started. And this thing takes two hours. So it's a great thing. It also educates people. If you've noticed, we [0:45:58, 0:46:18]: We are continuing in a drought in Georgia. We'll continue to be in droughts going forward here. So water conservation is a critical item. This is an event that came from our neighborhoods that they said they were interested in participating in, so we did it. [0:46:19, 0:46:20]: The other thing that came out of this [0:46:21, 0:46:25]: is we found a niche group that we never tapped before. So [0:46:28, 0:46:28]: That group. [0:46:29, 0:46:31]: were um young mothers. [0:46:32, 0:46:34]: So we actually did this workshop during the middle of the day. [0:46:35, 0:46:47]: And to find out that there's a huge group out there of mothers that are in a network that are looking for things to do between one, well I'd say actually probably about 10 to about 1.30 or 2 o'clock every single day. [0:46:48, 0:46:54]: That's something good to know, right? You got a few projects you could do during that time of the day with some people who may be interested. [0:46:54, 0:47:00]: This is the group, an untapped group. So again, uh [0:47:00, 0:47:02]: Great things come out of great things. [0:47:04, 0:47:24]: Um one of my favorites here, and if you come up through to Cav County, you might have seen this project here. This is our Barriers to Beauty program. So it's really an outreach and education piece for young people. We try to teach them at any age you have the ability to contribute back to your community in a meaningful way. So these barriers go out in areas where we receive [0:47:24, 0:47:44]: illegal dumping activities. So people dump construction debris or tires or whatever. And when we put them out there, the whole thing is to turn that thing around. We want to put something nice and attractive in an area where people have been using it for blight, essentially. And then educate the young people about it as well. [0:47:44, 0:47:57]: So we actually have some of these barriers on 138 when you come into the Cad County there on uh as it turns into Snapfinger Road. So if you you know when you're coming up that way, look to your right and you'll see our barriers over there. [0:47:57, 0:48:09]: Um people are always like, where did you know who did this? You know, how did you get that done? That was us. That was an idea that came out of the neighborhoods that we implemented. And uh it's a great uh [0:48:10, 0:48:20]: program for uh community events, we do festivals with it, and it's very inexpensive at the same time. So we're always cost conscious about these things. [0:48:21, 0:48:23]: And that's pretty much it. [0:48:23, 0:48:43]: Um one of the things I was very impressed with and I'm glad that I got an opportunity to see it is is your corporate engagement here. Mayor, when you were given out the awards there, it is the perfect combination for a program like this. Usually these affiliates in Georgia and nationwide are [0:48:43, 0:49:03]: either one or the other. So they're usually grassroots or they're almost all exclusively corporate. Okay? Ours is kind of a hybrid, although we're really more on the uh you know on the on the individual piece, not we don't have as many corporate citizens in the process. But to marry the two together is an awful [0:49:03, 0:49:23]: Awesome event. And it would be very easy to make something very meaningful out of what you already have here today. And I know how hard it is to get volunteers out to things a lot of times, but this right here brings out all those people. You get an opportunity to meet them, them to meet you, and all of a sudden they become [0:49:23, 0:49:26]: become part of your regular groups of volunteers. [0:49:27, 0:49:28]: So [0:49:28, 0:49:30]: With that, I'll take any questions you may have. [0:49:31, 0:49:33]: Council members, do you have any questions of Mr. Burkett? [0:49:36, 0:49:56]: Mr. Ford. Thank you. Appreciate the presentation, Ms. Burnett. Burn Burquette. Excuse me, Burquette. Um in reference to your volunteers picking up all these bags of trash and tires, I'm assuming that do they go to in the Cab County, do they go to wherever the Cab County dumps their trash or or to go to landfill or something like that? [0:49:56, 0:50:15]: with that all that? That's a great question. So again I'm very blessed. We have we have staffing as well. So what we typically do is uh when these folks we we provide all their materials, sticks, the bags, the gloves, the safety vests and everything to go out. And then they do a cleanup report. [0:50:16, 0:50:23]: When they send that in electronically, that then goes to one of our staff people and we pick the bags up within one business day. [0:50:24, 0:50:44]: Okay. Um follow up question. In reference to say the Cab County now, obviously, um, once you've done all this, do you alert them that hey th we had a situation here where we picked all this stuff up and they can maybe have the regular cause you're doing you're doing this is it's like an assi you're assisting in a sense. I'm I'm pretty sure that whatever territor whether there's jersey [0:50:44, 0:50:54]: jurisdiction you're in there's some type of uh local government that's supposed to handle that I'm assuming. I mean so w you you would let them know so they can maybe tighten up the loose ends on on this type of thing? [0:50:54, 0:51:14]: Yeah, well we work with all the municipalities in DeCab County. And when we find things, you know, and Rhodes don't know boundaries for the most part. You know, they they go through in and out of the city of Atlanta and other places. So uh it's it's really a team effort anyway. So uh it's important for us to have regular communications. [0:51:14, 0:51:30]: So I have partners at each one of the cities and Georgia Department of Transportation that we communicate with on a regular basis to solve problems, simple as that. And we just make it happen. All right, thank you. Thank you, Mayor. [0:51:32, 0:51:52]: Uh okay. We have a question by Mr. Alexander. Mm Mr. Burke, I just want you to uh touch on a little bit on the partnerships you were talking about. Now you all partner with the Arabia Mountain Heritage Area, which is in your area, and Panola Mountains State Park. Uh of course I guess only the the entrance of Panola Mountain State Park. [0:51:52, 0:51:59]: So talk about that relationship and how and and fostering those types of relationships. [0:52:00, 0:52:19]: Uh yes, well I again I can't begin to say again that we were very blessed with some very nice resources. So part of the hotel motel tax we were able to use to fund some of the signage for the Arabia uh Mountain Heritage Area. If if you've seen some of that nice stuff, have you shared those with them yet? It's quite amazing. [0:52:20, 0:52:28]: So um in addition to that though we do fund other projects. I don't know you all have uh CIDs, I'm assuming as well? [0:52:28, 0:52:48]: We we're not currently we're work here county is working on one and we're hoping to have one on Highway one hundred eight at some point. Okay. So we also act as the first point of contact with the CIDs on uh particularly on beautification things and then you know help them through the process um you know our permitting and and those sorts of things. But then also we [0:52:48, 0:53:08]: bring other resources to the table as well. One of our biggest partners is the UGA Extension Program. They are the most awesome people you will ever meet in your life. I'm actually jealous of what they do. They are the quintessential organization for neighborhoods and people. [0:53:08, 0:53:28]: And they also bring technical expertise to help do plants and also resources, vendors, et cetera. So a lot of the projects that we bring, we'll bring them in as well to make the numbers work. I'll give you one brief example. We had Columbia High School as one of our partners in the spring here. [0:53:28, 0:53:48]: actually did a planting we planted uh 200 plants on their campus all right they had a great idea no money um and did not have the technical expertise to support the the the plants so we partnered with them we found resources and also helped assist them write a grant [0:53:47, 0:54:07]: to get that money that we then used with one of the UGA extension uh vendors who actually got us the best wholesale prices I've ever seen. So uh made the project work um and now Columbia High School went after another beautification project but [0:54:07, 0:54:20]: This time they wrote their own grant because they had the confidence to do that themselves. And that's really what it's all about. It's about us bringing up groups and then working with other groups to bring them up as well. [0:54:21, 0:54:24]: Thank you. Any other questions of Mr. Burkett? [0:54:26, 0:54:38]: We want to thank you for coming and sharing and inspiring us. So thank you very much. Well if there's anything I can do to help you all to make this happen, please let me know. I'm happy to help you. Thank you. Have a good evening. Thank you. [0:54:38, 0:54:57]: At this time we're going to go directly into our old business and we're going to call our public works director up, uh Dashus Aaron. Is he in the room? Yes, okay, I lost you. You're you're usually over in the other corner. Um we're gonna first talk about sit the City Hall um HVAC update. [0:54:58, 0:55:18]: Yes, good evening, Madam Mayor and Council. On December 6th, Greg Ferguson, the HVAC engineer, was out doing a site visit at City Hall and the Murrymanders, and he's in the process of design developing a scope of work to address the issues that we're not only having at City Hall, but the Merrill Manders as well. [0:55:17, 0:55:27]: So hopefully by the end of this month we should have a scope of work that we can put out for B to repair and or replace both of these systems. [0:55:27, 0:55:47]: All right, thank you. Now we'll move on to item number three, municipal court renovations update. Yes. Um also on December 6th we had Mr. Stephen Kim Kimball come out who's an industrial hygienist to do a walkthrough of City Hall and the Municipal Court building and he's developing a scope of [0:55:47, 0:56:07]: work he sent me an email today that in two weeks he should have us a scope of work where we can bid out the remediation of the municipal court building. And one of the things we found when we was over there that contributes to the mold is the uh HVAC system downstairs with the humidity. So that's one of the things we got to look at. [0:56:07, 0:56:27]: And while Mr. Ferguson was here, staff did have him take a look at the HVAC system over at the municipal court building to give us some recommendations. So we already have a task order. We might have to come back and ask for additional approval for the H-BAC system over at the Municipal Court Building. And like I said, we're [0:56:27, 0:56:47]: We're developing that scope of work in two weeks. We should have that. But one of the positives is that the mold is confined to downstairs. There's nothing upstairs. Upstairs is fine. We walked through that. So everything up there is okay. So what we're going to be doing is concentrating and focusing on downstairs. [0:56:48, 0:56:58]: Okay, thank you for that update. Now then we're going to have um an update on the wells, the water wells report from you. [0:56:59, 0:57:19]: Yes, ma'am. In one of the spots it was identified that the cities were going to look for additional sources of water. And one of the things we did is uh I contacted uh Dan Harmon who works with Groundwater Services Inc. I had worked with him previously at another municipality to locate some [0:57:19, 0:57:39]: We had been talking with Fayette County about some wells that were drilled. We could never get access to them. But one of the things is he's located two sites. One of the sites, he said, probably would be like 100 gallons a minute. The other would be like 50 gallons a minute. And in your packets, I put some information together. [0:57:38, 0:57:49]: for every hundred gallons a minute we get, if we run it for twenty-four hours a day, we save eighty five hundred dollars a month in water purchase from [0:57:49, 0:58:09]: Henry County Water Authority, we probably will never get to the point where we're self-sufficient, but if we can make a dent in the amount of money that we're spending, we're averaging about$71,000 a month. We pay the Henry County for the purchase of water. So if we got$150 gallons a minute for 24 hours a day, that's$17,000. [0:58:09, 0:58:29]: thousand dollars a month we save. So the thing is the two wells he's recommending uh a depth of 600 feet and the going rate right now is about$15 a foot to drill the test well. So with two wells you're talking about$20,000. I think it's a good investment if we can find additional [0:58:29, 0:58:49]: sources to kind of stem the amount of money that we're paying the Herring County Water Authority for water. And we'll come back to you at a future date for permission to proceed with drilling the test wells at those two sites. And if things work out, like I said, another place I was at, he located two wheels. [0:58:49, 0:59:03]: for me that similar geography as geology I mean as stockbridge and they were like two hundred gallons a minute each so he has a established track record not on him with [0:59:04, 0:59:17]: location up here in North Georgia but throughout the state of Georgia so we'll be coming back to you with that. It's it's showing some promise and we want to do everything we can like say to reduce our expenditure on water from Heron County Water Authority. [0:59:18, 0:59:20]: All right, thank you for that good report. [0:59:21, 0:59:41]: At this time we're going to enter into a public hearing to address item number five, the water and sewer improvements. And um Mr. Aaron is also going to lead us through this. All right, let's uh put that on pause and go back to item four, a question about the wells. [0:59:40, 1:00:00]: missed it. Maybe you said this and I just went over my head. The two sites that you're talking about, where are they located now? They're located at the Reeds Creek Walking Trail on property within the Reeds Creek Trail. Well that's property in which we honestly we own? Yes sir. Okay. And you and if I understand right, the water tap is about six hundred feet deep, is that what you say? [1:00:00, 1:00:05]: Recommendation for the depth of the whale is 600 feet for each whale. [1:00:06, 1:00:13]: And like I say, it's cost about fifteen dollars a foot, so you're talking about nine thousand dollars per wheel. [1:00:13, 1:00:22]: So is is it possible to to to reach the water prior to six hundred feet? Or is is that possible you think or what? Well you [1:00:22, 1:00:37]: You reach different amounts of water at different levels. I think maybe like three hundred, four hundred feet it's about fifty or sixty gallons a minute, but if you go down to six hundred feet he says be about a hundred gallons a minute. Okay. And uh [1:00:38, 1:00:58]: Can we guarantee that we'll find something at this level or or is this something we just need to try to make sure we tap in to find it? Well is it definite You know, th there's never any guarantee but we don't know unless we try like I say I've used them before and the information and the technology used is very sound. Technology, like I say. [1:00:58, 1:01:08]: Similar geology to this, he found two well sites that were 200 gallons a minute for me in locations in rock like this is in Stockbridge. [1:01:08, 1:01:09]: All right. Thank you. [1:01:12, 1:01:18]: Okay, any further questions on item four before we moved into our public hearing? [1:01:19, 1:01:31]: If not, we are now in our public hearing and we're going to hear water and sewer improvements regarding wind bottom sanitary sewer system and we're going to have that presented to us by Mr. Deshius Aaron. [1:01:31, 1:01:51]: Yes, Madam Mayor. It's actually the Smith Barnes Sanitary Sewer Basin. And this is one of the older collection systems in the city of Stockbridge. It's over 50 years old. It's made out of the terracotta clay pipe. And this is an area where the cities had had some issues in the past with sewer spills. [1:01:51, 1:02:11]: and things of that sort. So we want to be proactive and do our due diligence to find the sources of these issues over in the Smith Barnes basins because one of the things with terra cotta is it it cracks over time and it also allows roots and other intrusions to get into [1:02:11, 1:02:31]: the collection system so this is an area that qualifies for a CDBG grant low to moderate income and as I say is one of our older sections of the sewer collection system and we just want to be proactive we want to do it before somebody requires us to do it such as EPD or EPA and we just want to be proactive and make [1:02:31, 1:02:34]: make sure we're maintaining our infrastructure. [1:02:35, 1:02:45]: Okay, at this time can you uh tell me do you need a vote on this tonight or we're just in public hearing alerting the public to see if there's any opposition or [1:02:46, 1:03:06]: Yes, ma'am, we meet the recommendation to move forward. Uh we've talked spoken with Shannon and they have allocated us a hundred thousand dollars to begin the initial phase of this of this project and the next thing we'll do is go out and do income surveys in the area and we'll proceed from there with developing a game plan to [1:03:06, 1:03:11]: repair and or replace damaged pipes in the in that collection system. [1:03:11, 1:03:22]: Okay, so I want to make sure that I'm clear. Um this uh funding, is this funding in place or will this be the funding that we are anticipating getting soon? [1:03:22, 1:03:42]: Uh Shannon has informed us that they did allocate$100,000 for this project, the initial phases of this project, and it probably be multi multi-phases, up to maybe four or five different phases as funding become available, we'll be able to qualify for funding to continue to make the necessary repairs. [1:03:42, 1:04:01]: Okay. And for the benefit of the public or those watching um this um meeting, Shannon is the uh person, the staff person at the county that oversees this that we work closely with. Is that correct? Yes ma'am. Okay. All right. So do we need a vote to move forward on this? [1:04:05, 1:04:10]: Oh, we are in public hearing. So any objection to this from anyone in the room? [1:04:13, 1:04:15]: Okay. Are we okay? [1:04:20, 1:04:24]: Uh see anyone in the room that would like to comment for or against this. [1:04:27, 1:04:30]: No comments? We're okay? That's all we have to do tonight. [1:04:31, 1:04:32]: Yeah and there. [1:04:33, 1:04:36]: Yes, I'd like to go ahead and make a comment from Mr. Alexander. [1:04:37, 1:04:46]: I'm going to go ahead and make a motion to approve the Smith Barn basis improvements as recommended by Public Works Director Mr. [1:04:47, 1:04:54]: All right, we have a motion. We have a second at this time. Is there any uh discussion or further questions before we vote? [1:04:55, 1:04:57]: If not, all in favor? [1:04:58, 1:04:59]: Thank you. [1:04:59, 1:05:04]: Thank you so much. And we thank Shannon for working with us on this project. [1:05:04, 1:05:21]: All right, another um public hearing issue tonight is uh the proposal of our twenty eighteen budget. This is the third presentation and it will be presented by Rashonda Favors and Mr. Knighton, our city manager. [1:05:25, 1:05:28]: Take this out. Take this out. [1:05:30, 1:05:30]: That one. [1:05:35, 1:05:38]: Gosh. Oh my god. [1:05:58, 1:06:01]: They didn't give us that. [1:06:10, 1:06:11]: Good evening. [1:06:12, 1:06:15]: This is the um third [1:06:15, 1:06:26]: public hearing of the proposed um FY 2018 budget and we haven't made any changes to the budget. Everything remains the same. So [1:06:27, 1:06:35]: So everything we heard in the previous meeting it remains the same. Yes, ma'am. Uh Mr. Knight, do you have any comments? Um [1:06:36, 1:06:56]: Not really other than the fact that uh in the previous two public hearings uh what you uh was before you this evening before the public this evening uh is the same proposed budget. Um obviously um there will be a budget adoption hearing on the nineteenth uh for final adoption, consideration and adoption by the council. Of course, if there are any items that [1:06:56, 1:07:08]: um we need to have any discussions about from the council please provide those to me um uh in the next few days and uh sure that those are uh considered with any ultimate adoption. [1:07:09, 1:07:21]: All right, thank you. And since we are in a public hearing, we'll ask go out to our audience to ask if anyone here has a comment that they would like to make on our proposed budget for 2018. [1:07:22, 1:07:24]: If so, please come to the podium. [1:07:26, 1:07:26]: Mm. [1:07:27, 1:07:47]: There seem to be no comments from the audience. Do we have any comments or questions? One from Mr. Thank you, Mayor. Appreciate it. Um since this is this public hearing, I'm assuming this was on the website for the public to look at. Absolutely. And so have outside of one individual that we know of, has there been any other public comments on that come to the website at all? No, sir. [1:07:47, 1:08:02]: none that have come to me. It has been uh on the website. It has been uh here located, the budget has been here located at City Hall, and certainly we as staff are available to field any questions from the public. But uh save that one uh gentleman there have not been any further questions. So be it. Thank you very much. [1:08:02, 1:08:10]: Any other comments or questions? If not, we will anticipate seeing you all back on the nineteenth for the final vote. [1:08:10, 1:08:12]: Thank you so much. [1:08:14, 1:08:15]: At this time [1:08:16, 1:08:18]: We are still in public hearing. [1:08:19, 1:08:25]: Excuse me. And we are addressing item number seven. [1:08:25, 1:08:36]: That is about a mixed-use neighborhood development and Melinda is coming to us from the Community Development Department along with Mr. Knighton to present this item for us. [1:08:43, 1:08:46]: This is actually for rezoning. [1:08:47, 1:08:53]: For Camp Brown Road extension and highway forty two. I'm just gonna talk through. [1:08:55, 1:09:15]: Yes, Mayor and Council, this item before you is item number RZ-17-25-S, which is a proposed uh rezoning. Um the applicant is STKR Investments LLC. Um it's located at Campground Road Extension and Highway 42 North. The request [1:09:15, 1:09:28]: is to rezone from M1, which is light manufacturing, to Mund, which is mixed use mixed-use neighborhood development. The property consists of just under 65 acres. [1:09:30, 1:09:31]: The um [1:09:32, 1:09:33]: Um [1:09:33, 1:09:53]: Property was recommended for approval with conditions by the Planning and Zoning Department and is presented to you with recommendations for approval with a number of conditions. You see a number of conditions listed there, many of which have to do with access and [1:09:53, 1:10:13]: um uh roadway matters, median and access openings, excel and decel lanes. Um the um applicant is here. There have been a number of conversations throughout the course of the day with staff and the applicant seeking some clarification, excuse me, clarification on certain items. And [1:10:13, 1:10:33]: Given those conversations, and I'll let the applicant obviously speak to this, but it may be prudent for us to uh or for the mayor and council for you all to consider tabling this item until clarity can be be provided on those several conditions. But of course it is a public hearing, uh subject to public input, and of course I'll allow [1:10:33, 1:10:36]: the applicant to speak to any requests they may have. [1:10:37, 1:10:37]: Mayor. [1:10:39, 1:10:45]: At this time we will bring our applicant up to present and then we'll allow for questions. [1:10:46, 1:10:51]: You would please introduce yourself and your company name for the benefit of the clerk. [1:10:53, 1:11:10]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name is Wanda Moore. My company is Falcon Design Consultants. We're located here in Stockbridge, Georgia, and I'm here to represent my client on this application for mixed-use neighborhood development. [1:11:10, 1:11:30]: Um as the um city manager uh alluded to during the course of the day I've had conversations with Henry County DOT who uh included some conditions as part of the zoning as part of clarity on my part because of the wording I wasn't clear on [1:11:30, 1:11:36]: what the expectation from the county um was going to be on the improvements. [1:11:36, 1:11:49]: My client has no objections to any of the conditions that have been recommended by City of Stockbridge staff, with the exception of one, and that was number eight. [1:11:50, 1:11:58]: that specifically restricts access from the campground road extension. [1:11:59, 1:12:01]: Uh the clarity came [1:12:01, 1:12:21]: For me today when I was speaking to Mr. David Simmons of Henry County DOT and he actually emailed me the language that he had sent to Henry County staff before they um included it in their staff report. The language that he used was [1:12:21, 1:12:41]: clearer and it wasn't exclusive of access but his concern was can if there was not going to be access that there should at least be minimum emergency access. But his preference was that there was going to be access whether it's a ride in, ride out, from campus [1:12:41, 1:12:47]: Campground Road because we wa we have a little parcel that's to the north. [1:12:47, 1:12:58]: Um so there was just a mix up on the language and as such when we were going through it with uh Miss Moore, uh the um planning director here at the city. [1:12:59, 1:13:11]: She said on such short notice it might be challenging to present something new to the council and get that absorbed or changed in the condition. [1:13:12, 1:13:20]: So I'm here to answer any questions regarding the development and um at this point my client is [1:13:21, 1:13:21]: Um [1:13:22, 1:13:23]: Oh. [1:13:23, 1:13:28]: would like to get the property rezoned with that one com one condition change. [1:13:29, 1:13:35]: But if that's not something that uh we're able to do tonight, we're certainly um [1:13:36, 1:13:41]: ready to come back and discuss it at your next hearing. [1:13:41, 1:13:41]: Um [1:13:42, 1:13:44]: And get any clarification between now and then. [1:13:46, 1:14:06]: Okay. Um I believe you've heard what the rep for the applicant has said that um it's okay if we put this one on hold until the nineteenth when we have our next meeting. Is that the consensus of our of our folks? But let's go out to the audience to see if there's anybody else that wants to speak for or against. [1:14:06, 1:14:07]: This project. [1:14:09, 1:14:27]: No one from the audience so we'll take questions. Okay, I'm so sorry. Please come up. Yeah. Please come to the microphone and if you would give your um name and your address. And if it has a subdivision name, include that, please. [1:14:27, 1:14:28]: Yes, ma'am. [1:14:28, 1:14:39]: Um Troy Harris, 1335 Vine Circle in McDonough, the Vineyards. So we want to know where we could get a copy of everything this entails. [1:14:40, 1:14:48]: Can we could certainly provide uh you with a staff report which contains all of the appropriate maps and aerials in staff report. [1:14:49, 1:14:58]: Do you want to get his name and address and provide that tomorrow as an attachment to an email? Would that work, Mr. Knighton? Okay. [1:15:04, 1:15:13]: We'll give um the speaker time to leave his email address with the clerk and then we're gonna take a question from Mr Um Ford. [1:15:15, 1:15:20]: Okay. Well in my neighborhood. [1:15:29, 1:15:49]: Thank you so much. Thank you. Now we'll go to Mr. Ford. This question is actually for our representative from Falcon Design. Uh you mentioned what I just need to know and I sh probably shouldn't know, but what is a minimum emergency um spacing that you talked about? What I got considered be considered. What's that what's that minimum spacing? How much is that? [1:15:49, 1:16:03]: Do you know? What is that considered? I think that of the way that the concept plan, the way it's shown right now, the minimum width would be, I would imagine, a 20-foot access for fire and safety. [1:16:03, 1:16:05]: for emergency only. [1:16:05, 1:16:25]: As we've gone through the process, the site plan that's in your package now is for mixed-use neighborhood, and that's the same zoning, but as stated in the Planning Commission, the zoning is what we're seeking and we're still evaluating the mix of the residential. Right now we're also looking at [1:16:25, 1:16:44]: single family detached um whether it's a mix um we're still going back and forth with my client although the area of residential will stay the same but the commercial um and the commercial component will stay the same as far as the location but um [1:16:45, 1:16:56]: I think what was prudent with the city uh up to this point with the zoning is that the mixed-use neighborhood development allows a mix of residential and um [1:16:56, 1:17:08]: With that, we're trying to work towards obviously what works for the client and what he is trying to um market but also meet the um [1:17:10, 1:17:14]: meet the code, meet the essence of what the code is about. [1:17:15, 1:17:25]: So we've been working with Camilla on those things and right now we do have a single family detached layout that we've been working on as well. [1:17:25, 1:17:45]: All right. Thank you. Appreciate it. Okay, and for uh for the benefit of the public, Miss Moore is um not she's on vacation today and she is not here to uh go into more detail on this, so we appreciate your willingness to allow us to move this forward to the nineteenth. Do we have other questions? Yes. [1:17:45, 1:17:53]: One from our attorney. Just a statement for the record that the hearing uh isn't closed, but it's continued to the next meeting on the nineteenth. [1:17:54, 1:18:09]: Okay. You've heard that that this hearing will be extended into the next meeting on the nineteenth. Do I have any other questions from our council? Okay, I've got one down here first and I'm coming down. Yes, so Mr. Alexander. [1:18:11, 1:18:11]: Well then [1:18:12, 1:18:16]: Okay. [1:18:17, 1:18:18]: Um [1:18:18, 1:18:38]: information. My neighborhood is the one uh directly down at the bottom of the screen. If you can picture what you're seeing, that is Winslow at Eagles Landing and uh I live in this neighborhood uh for all transparency so everyone will know uh what is going on. I live in that neighborhood. [1:18:38, 1:18:58]: Um it it seems to make perfect sense that you would want some emergency access if this particular uh development was granted uh off of campground because seconds mean lives. So if it's about the safety, I would think that that was something that uh we would definitely want to [1:18:58, 1:19:18]: uh move forward with. What I would like is I'd like for the city manager uh to since Miss Moore's not here, Miss Davies to speak to the difference between M1 and mixed use development because uh honestly there may be some advantages to going mixed use but [1:19:18, 1:19:38]: versus having some type of uh unwanted use um locating there. Uh at this point I think the applicant has generally stated that it was going to be uh residential, but uh under the current zoning which is M one, something more negative uh could possibly go [1:19:38, 1:19:58]: In this particular location. And sometimes you have to protect against that. And as a neighbor, I want to hear more about that particular component because if you know it is a residential area. So if there's more residents going to go in there, and then even what the [1:19:58, 1:20:18]: mixed use component uh there's some retail attached to this uh it's it's uh under the mixed use definition it uh describes a requirement for what is uh to go into the mixed use so I think residents uh including myself want to know you know what is the habit [1:20:18, 1:20:28]: hazards of that M one and I think that would be beneficial so people understand that something industrial might be able to go in there versus some residents which may be preferred. [1:20:30, 1:20:50]: Yes, Councilman Alexander, that is correct. The M1 zoning district, which is like manufacturing, generally has uh more intense uses than would be found in a mixed-use neighborhood development, which would have an assortment of primarily residential uses with some neighborhood supporting uh commercial uses. So I think that was [1:20:50, 1:21:01]: uh likely the impetus for the planning commission's recommendation for approval given the site location which is uh obviously uh adjacent to uh residential areas. [1:21:02, 1:21:08]: Okay, thank you, Mr. Knighton, for that clarification. Uh now we'll go down to Ms. Robinson. Thank you, Mayor. [1:21:09, 1:21:29]: I was just concerned about the access, so if we can look into that I know we're tabling it and also saw some concerns even with the um they already have heavy traffic and as well as um for the residential, for as the school system, um something that we need to look at as well because right now if you look at [1:21:29, 1:21:43]: at the criteria that the schools was implic imp implicating, we need to just, you know, look at that in depth as well, having all parties at the table to try to, you know, work together if we can do that. [1:21:44, 1:21:44]: Thank you. [1:21:45, 1:21:50]: Thank you, Ms. Robinson. Any other questions? Ms. Gantt did you have a question? Okay. [1:21:50, 1:22:07]: I just have one more follow up if that would be okay. So I I'm trying to understand the issue here tonight is the emergency access. Is that what the issue is? That we need to be able to digest the um emergency access. Is that [1:22:07, 1:22:10]: That's the condition, that's the objection. [1:22:10, 1:22:30]: That's one issue, but the uh the other issues were uh this afternoon we received some uh proposed revisions uh to some of the conditions and we wanted to have an opportunity to further digest that and certainly wanted you as mayor and counsel to have an opportunity to further address those issues and to work with the applicant to provide the necessary clarification. So the the thought [1:22:30, 1:22:47]: was that um given uh those circumstances in the last uh several hours that it would be prudent to um speak to uh your consideration of uh continuing this item so to ensure that uh a more proper um presentation could to you could be made. [1:22:48, 1:23:08]: Well I would say uh even just a little bit further to that is that I think I had raised the question earlier or uh to see whether or not um campground road extension was listed under the new highway corridor plan which has upgraded landscaping and ten foot pathway. [1:23:08, 1:23:28]: Requirements and additional other items. At that time, I think when we passed the highway overlay and the 138 overlay, campground, of course, is still under construction. So I think we should consider adding. This is a major highway that will be coming through the city limits, adding campgrounds. [1:23:28, 1:23:43]: road extension to the highway highway corridor overlay so that it has uh upgraded standards and that uh the the requirements these all of those requirements that will be required for our highways uh will be met by this development. [1:23:43, 1:24:03]: Thank you for your comment. I think all of us will be um relieved to have Ms. Moore come back to work and get to work on these um questions that we have. And um she will prepare us to come back um next um Tuesday night on the 19th uh with a finished product. [1:24:03, 1:24:13]: product that can be presented. So thank you all. We are now down to item number eight, if there are no more comments from the public. [1:24:15, 1:24:17]: We're still in public hearing. [1:24:32, 1:24:35]: Yeah. [1:24:43, 1:24:49]: The next thing we're bringing up is a variance for 107 Wexford Court. [1:24:51, 1:25:09]: Yes, Mayor and Council, this is item vr-17-20-COS, which is a proposed variance from the development regulations. The applicant is Deborah Ross. Property location is 107, Wexford Court, and the villages of Eagles Landing subdivision. [1:25:09, 1:25:29]: This request is to um vary the rear yard setbacks from the required 20 feet down to 14 feet to convert the back patio into an enclosed sunroom and also reduce the minimum side yard setback from six feet uh to five feet. [1:25:29, 1:25:32]: Planning Commission's recommendation. [1:25:33, 1:25:53]: um is uh approval uh with one condition as you can see um from the aerial photograph there um the uh site location is in uh a um eagles landing subdivision and the rear yard again the rear yard and side yard setbacks are in question and being requested [1:25:53, 1:26:02]: by the applicant for modification. Again, the application is recommended for approval with the one condition. [1:26:06, 1:26:08]: Okay. Do uh [1:26:10, 1:26:20]: Do we want to move forward with this tonight if there is no uh comment? Um I first want to ask if Ms. Ross is in attendance. [1:26:21, 1:26:24]: Applicant is not in attendance. [1:26:24, 1:26:31]: Okay. Any comments from anyone else in the audience? I believe this is in the villages at Eagles Landing. [1:26:32, 1:26:40]: Anyone has comment? None from the audience. Do we have any comments from our um council members? Yes. [1:26:41, 1:26:49]: All right, Mr. Alexander. Is there any been any communication with the HOA? Have they uh uh weighed in on it? [1:26:49, 1:27:08]: Uh we're gonna let Mr. Knighton answer that, but I believe whatever we do still does the HOA enters into this. Right. This is a variance request which is before you and obviously this would stand apart from any private covenant covenants or homeowners association requirements. [1:27:11, 1:27:12]: Any other questions? [1:27:13, 1:27:15]: No other questions? Um [1:27:17, 1:27:19]: No questions? [1:27:20, 1:27:22]: Do I hear a motion that we move forward? [1:27:23, 1:27:25]: Opening club? Do they open? [1:27:34, 1:27:54]: And then they can vote. Okay, at this time, since we have no more items in public hearing, we'll close the public hearing and we'll ask for a motion if you want anyone on the council wants to move this forward. Mayor Neil, I move that we approve VR dash seventeen dash twenty s um property located at one hundred seven Wexford Court and landlot fifteen. [1:27:54, 1:28:00]: of the sixth district with the condition that is um that Stockbridge has recommended. [1:28:00, 1:28:03]: Okay, we have a motion. Do I hear a second? [1:28:03, 1:28:04]: Second. [1:28:04, 1:28:09]: We have a motion and we have a second at this time. Are there any further uh comments? [1:28:10, 1:28:11]: No comments. All in favor? [1:28:13, 1:28:14]: Thank you. [1:28:14, 1:28:32]: Now then we'll move on to new business and we're going to call our public works director uh and our lead accountant uh Rashonda Favors back to the podium for item number nine, council consideration to appoot to approve the 2018 water and sewer rates issue. [1:28:41, 1:28:46]: Yes, uh Madam Mayor and Council. We come to you before you tonight. Uh [1:28:47, 1:29:07]: Uh Henry Henry County Water Authority has notified the city that they have increased, they're proposing a 2% rate increase on their water rates to the city, and we're requesting that we be allowed to add an additional 3% on that. And the reason why is in order to run a profitable business. [1:29:07, 1:29:08]: [5349.5, 5369.5]: Sale a product for what you buy it for. And the cities incur some additional costs. And one of the things is with the AMI metering system, there's some additional agreements that are in place that tremendously increase from what we previously were paying for our software and [1:29:29, 1:29:43]: maintenance and things of that nature. And we've also got some maintenance things that we need to do to be able to operate proficiently in the water and sewer system. And and also in this year's budget. [1:29:43, 1:29:44]: In order to [1:29:45, 1:30:05]: uh make our budget balance. We're taking money from fund balance so it lets me know that this the system as it is is not paying for itself as an enterprise fund should. So we're requesting permission to adapt add an additional three percent then pay for the incurred costs that [1:30:05, 1:30:10]: that we have chemicals are going up and other things for the water and wastewater treatments. [1:30:11, 1:30:19]: And from talking with staff, I guess previously, the last time when Henry County went up too, the city went up an additional three percent. So [1:30:19, 1:30:24]: It's nothing new. It won't set a precedence from what I've been told by staff. [1:30:26, 1:30:34]: You've heard the presentation uh from Mr. Aaron. Do um I hear a motion to move this forward? [1:30:37, 1:30:39]: Do I hear a motion to move this forward? [1:30:42, 1:30:51]: Mr. Ford. Mayor, I'll make a motion that uh we increase the router rates by three percent as to as uh outlined by our public works director. [1:30:51, 1:31:01]: Uh it actually is they're raising their rates two percent, so we're raising ours by which will be an additional three percent. Okay, so [1:31:02, 1:31:17]: Otherwise okay, total five percent increase. Yes. Okay. I'm obviously I was wrong. Okay, well I'll make a motion that we increase our water rates to five percent uh increase as outlined by uh and delivered by our public works director, Mr. Earn. [1:31:18, 1:31:20]: Do I hear a second to Mr Ford's motion? [1:31:24, 1:31:28]: Do I hear a second to Mr. Ford's motion? I second. [1:31:29, 1:31:32]: We have a motion. We have a second. Is there discussion? [1:31:33, 1:31:34]: I do. [1:31:35, 1:31:37]: Ms. Robinson. I um [1:31:37, 1:31:42]: I think we increased last year. Didn't we did we increase this last year? [1:31:44, 1:31:45]: Yeah. [1:31:46, 1:31:55]: But I I think what they did is they just passed the increase whatever Henry County passed, the city passed it on to their customers. [1:31:56, 1:32:05]: And my concern is like I say that if you're gonna be in business you can't afford to sell a product for what you buy it for and [1:32:05, 1:32:16]: Taking money out of fund balance shows that there's already a shortfall in meeting the needs of your utilities. And we're just trying to ensure because right now you're purchasing [1:32:17, 1:32:19]: Two-thirds of your water comes from Henry County. [1:32:20, 1:32:21]: So [1:32:22, 1:32:22]: Mm. [1:32:23, 1:32:24]: Yeah. [1:32:24, 1:32:26]: Um Mr. Alexander. [1:32:26, 1:32:46]: Uh uh yeah, I mean understand the position that we're in, which is we raised the water rates last year. Now I'm all for passing along the cost uh of what um Henry County passes on to us. But as far as adding something additional to that [1:32:46, 1:32:52]: So if we just did a straight pass through, what what what rate is that? It it'll go up two percent. [1:32:53, 1:33:04]: Okay, so the two percent would be a straight pass through, they raise two, we raise two. And that's basically we're passing along to them um what we have. Yes, sir. [1:33:05, 1:33:25]: Okay. Any other discussion? One more. Um if I recall right, Henry County did not have an increase last year, but their reasoning for not having it necessarily an increase last year, and it could have been the year before, um I I get confused on when they say, Oh, we're having we usually have an increase but we haven't this year. [1:33:26, 1:33:28]: Um we were [1:33:28, 1:33:33]: But still our rates were way under the average normal rate. [1:33:33, 1:33:46]: um m in cost wise and it's from my understanding. Now, if we're bringing it up to date, that's one thing. I I'm a little confused at where we are. Maybe we should [1:33:47, 1:34:07]: table it and discuss this a little bit further so I can get some numbers if that is the case. Um but you know I'm I'm not I'm I'm a little bit more concerned also about the issue and the the term profit in regards to a service that we're providing. So I think that if we can take [1:34:07, 1:34:26]: table and actually see some actual numbers of what's going on and bring it to the next meeting that might be a little bit better for us. Mayor Neal. Okay. We presently have a motion on the floor by Mr. Ford. Unless Mr. Ford wants to withdraw we need to move. [1:34:27, 1:34:28]: Move that through. [1:34:29, 1:34:35]: I'm not gonna withdraw at this point right now. Uh I think someone else has some other questions. Okay. Anyone have any more questions? [1:34:36, 1:34:43]: Mayor Neal, I just wanted to be s um to let the council know that if the um item is tabled, I must publish [1:34:44, 1:34:46]: the new rates prior to January one. [1:34:47, 1:34:50]: So we need to vote on it at the next meeting. [1:34:51, 1:34:54]: Okay, and you don't have time to do that before the nineteenth? [1:34:55, 1:35:15]: No, if it's done on the nineteenth, there would be time to publish it. I was just letting the council know that's the meeting that it would need to be decided on. All right, gotcha. Okay, Mr. Ford. Okay. If we take the two thank you, Mayor, appreciate it. If we take the two per two percent and pass it directly on to the citizens of Stockbridge, there's still going to be a deficit that [1:35:15, 1:35:18]: that you have to take out a fund balance to take care of the overall bill, is that correct? [1:35:19, 1:35:27]: Yes, sir. Uh the FY 2018 budget proposes to use, I think it's$300 and something thousand from fund balance. [1:35:28, 1:35:38]: I see. And early in a in a meeting we talked about a couple of wells and and and authorizing uh a drilling of a couple of wells to find water. [1:35:38, 1:35:48]: Well hung run roughly a hundred and fifty uh gallons per uh minute, I believe it was right. That's right. And then if we if we if that is successful, that'll help with this process. [1:35:48, 1:36:02]: Yes, because we'll produce more of our own water. All right. If that is but we but that's if that's successful we won't know anything on those results for what, six months out from now or something like that? At least a minimum six months. [1:36:04, 1:36:13]: Okay. Any other questions? Yes. One more. Yes. I I want to hear from our city manager on what your advice would be for this instance. [1:36:16, 1:36:19]: That's that's from the enterprise fund. That's the water fund balance. [1:36:22, 1:36:24]: I'm sorry, I'm your question. [1:36:25, 1:36:42]: Well, no, one, I'm glad you said it's the waterfront balance, but I also want to know what your take is of of w what we're looking at here in regards to the increase, five percent increase next year. Right. We we um uh Mr. Aaron and I had some conversations previously and [1:36:43, 1:37:03]: In fact, it was proposed to come at the last meeting and I wanted to get some additional information which is contained in your packet to further um try to answer some of the questions that I anticipated would arise from this five percent increase, proposed five percent increase versus two percent. Um and if you would like some additional [1:37:03, 1:37:23]: numbers or or or questions that we can answer. I think it would be prudent perhaps to table it or continue it to uh the nineteenth. But there is some additional information here about the associated costs of chemicals, of overhead, electricity, those things that are incurred is a matter of [1:37:23, 1:37:36]: of providing uh water to citizens that uh Mr. Aaron and his staff uh identified that uh warranted uh the increase or the proposed increase. [1:37:38, 1:37:39]: Garlic Sander. [1:37:39, 1:37:59]: Thank you. Mark Mark that that would uh you know raise a interesting question with uh at first when we talked about fund balance, I thought we were talking about from the general fund balance too. So what is the water fund balance for if it's not to supplement uh what we're doing?'Cause if we're not taking any money out [1:37:59, 1:38:12]: of the general fund balance so we're not really going into um the reserve funds for the city. This fund is set aside for these purposes, uh for purposes to mitigate costs. [1:38:13, 1:38:33]: But eventually you will deplete that fund balance. You know, if you take them from and you don't add to, eventually you'll deplete it. But one of the things about the water rate increase, it's not dealing with the base, the base charge, it's dealing with usage. And so in a way it acts as a conservation. [1:38:33, 1:38:49]: measure as well because each year the state is requiring us to reduce water usage and implement ways of using water. So it it deals more with the more you use the more it's gonna cost you and and is n does not [1:38:50, 1:38:54]: uh increase the base charge is just the usage charge. [1:38:55, 1:39:01]: So but if if I need to prepare additional information for the next meeting I can do that as well. Mayor. Do you get an answer? [1:39:02, 1:39:06]: To the w what's the fund for? I didn't get the answer to that question, yeah. [1:39:06, 1:39:26]: But I think it could be, Councilman Alexander, it could be to supplement things of this nature and the costs incurred. However, as Mr. Aaron did mention, at some point you do begin to deplete that water fund balance, and you may put your there may be a situation where fund balance is depleted and you don't have those reserves to [1:39:26, 1:39:32]: to help supplement the system. So that that would be an ultimate choice that the the council would need to make. [1:39:34, 1:39:44]: Any other discussion? Yes, ma'am. Okay, Ms. Robinson. Are we in um good shape to wait until we do the wells before we deplete? [1:39:44, 1:40:00]: all of the fun that fund balance. I mean we're already saying we're going out to try to see if, you know, with these whales, could we wait and see? I mean, is this a right now type thing that you need or can we follow through with the whales? [1:40:01, 1:40:09]: Well, that's gonna be probably a six month process. If if that's counsel's decision then we'll wait with it, but [1:40:10, 1:40:30]: If it was me, I would move forward and we could always go back if if it proves that there's sufficient sources, we can always go back because if it's not a sufficient source then s six months, y you know, you've lost six months worth of potential revenue. [1:40:32, 1:40:42]: But if you need additional information, I guess I could meet with Ms. Favors. We can see what the fund balance is for the water and sewer fund and get more information to you. [1:40:42, 1:40:43]: To review. [1:40:43, 1:41:03]: Okay, we've got another question, Mr. Ford. Actually, uh not really a question. I'm gonna go ahead and draw up a motion, help this process out. Get if you get you can get more information for us, that'd be great. We obviously we need that. Mr. Blount will be back with us at that time. And I'm assuming by the clerk's message [1:41:03, 1:41:11]: that this is something that will be beneficial to do now this year versus another six months or so. I'm I'm I don't I'm just asking. [1:41:12, 1:41:22]: Is that right, Clerk? That's correct. I would we would have to publish the rates whether it's the 2%, the 5%, whatever you all decide on. I just have to publish it before J. Wermore. [1:41:22, 1:41:41]: Okay. So I I'll withdraw my motion so we can get more information and do this and hopefully we'll be able to make a decision on the nineteenth to fill the fit fit everything in for two thousand eighteen. Thank you. Okay, you've heard Mr. Ford he's withdrawn his motion. So this item will move forward to come on the nineteenth. [1:41:42, 1:41:43]: uh agenda. [1:41:44, 1:41:58]: Sure, that'll be fine. Is that good? We don't need any kind of vote, just to withdraw. Okay, we'll move on to item number 10 that will be presented by our city attorney, Michael Williams. It's a council consideration to approve development projects policy. [1:41:59, 1:42:19]: Good evening, Madam Mayor. Um this uh and members of the council. This uh item was discussed a couple of meetings ago, and it essentially establishes a policy to avoid uh which is meant to avoid the inadvertent release of information or limit the potential for any undue uh influence. [1:42:19, 1:42:39]: on economic development uh projects. And what it simply does, and I can just read it and it's before you in your packet, it directs the city manager and any person acting in such capacity to adhere to the following policy that the city staff is requested to not release any information to any council member [1:42:39, 1:42:59]: numbers pertaining to pending development applications or economic development inquiries unless a vote on such matters is required of the mayor and council. In such cases all information shall be conveyed to the entire mayor and council concurrently. And again that policy is meant to avoid sort of any problems associated with [1:42:59, 1:43:06]: uh uh economic development initiatives. So it's ready and we uh recommend approval. [1:43:07, 1:43:13]: Okay, you've heard the presentation of the new development projects policy. Do I hear a motion? [1:43:14, 1:43:16]: [6196.9, 6200.0]: We are not into questions. I'm ho I'm asking for a motion. [1:43:21, 1:43:31]: Do I hear a motion? Okay. Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate it. Yeah, uh a motion that the resolution establishing an informational policy with respect to certain economic development matters be approved. [1:43:32, 1:43:33]: I'll hear a second. [1:43:35, 1:43:43]: Do I hear a second? A second. Okay, Ms. Gantt. Okay, Ms. Gantt. Now we're open to questions and discussion. [1:43:44, 1:43:47]: Yes, please. [1:43:47, 1:44:03]: I'm I'm gonna ask uh Mr. Mick Williams and um ask him a s series of questions if that would be okay. First of all, I I disagree with this policy because it hamstrings the rest future councils. [1:44:03, 1:44:08]: uh from getting information uh that they need in order to do their jobs. [1:44:09, 1:44:21]: Um personally myself, I have twelve months to six month um notice on pretty much any development project in Georgia. But [1:44:21, 1:44:26]: it's not gonna keep me from getting the information, but someone else who's holding this seat. [1:44:26, 1:44:46]: it may keep them from making it and from making the the decision uh what is coming forward before us because if you just like for instance uh with this campground road um a proposal that just came before, right? The Campground Road proposal came before me um personally. Uh that's not something [1:44:46, 1:45:06]: That I was monitoring, and we got the information a few days ahead of time, but I wanted to make sure that my neighbors did know about the project, uh, were able to be able to be aware of it and participate. I'm not necessarily against the project because there's some particular [1:45:06, 1:45:26]: Protections that are put in place. But the last thing I wanted them to do was to come to me and say, Why you didn't tell me? Uh we got this project coming in the neighborhood around us. Now, passing this policy, what it does is it delays the amount of time that you will have to respond to any development, and basically when the development is brought to [1:45:26, 1:45:46]: you it'll be almost ready to be uh approved uh at that point. Now my question uh for Mr. Williams is that there's some legal requirements that we're required to follow which are when a building permit is required is permit is uh applied for or when certain things uh [1:45:46, 1:46:06]: um applications are made, those are public records. So how does this deal with that in a legal aspect that um some in in some instances this would suggest that the public might actually know about the project before the before the rest of the council because if they [1:46:06, 1:46:12]: did an open records request, they would get the information potentially that the council has not already gotten. [1:46:14, 1:46:15]: That is correct. [1:46:18, 1:46:38]: Do we have uh other questions? Yes. Comments. Ms. uh Robinson. I guess before the night I sent the r uh request as well,'cause that kind of concerned me. Um when you got city council, to me that's just limiting us. Um I'm not the type of person to go out and say things, but it's limiting me to receive information. [1:46:37, 1:46:46]: that's going on in the city um that somebody else may bring to me um and I have I'm not aware of it. Um [1:46:48, 1:47:08]: I understand doing the resolution because of certain situations, but I don't think that that should hinder all council members. And as it's stating city council, it could someone from the public, you know, and I sent the email to you saying, okay, why can't we put that in here as well? Not only [1:47:08, 1:47:12]: just city council um but others as well. I'm just [1:47:13, 1:47:32]: I'm kind of torn with that because I um I guess it to me is l limiting me as a council elected official in receiving information that I should know before someone else brings it to me. So can you explain that if I'm am I looking at it and wrong or can you help me understand? [1:47:33, 1:47:34]: Well no. [1:47:34, 1:47:44]: you know, part of this is in the context of uh a lot of controversy surrounding, you know, certain development matters and and [1:47:44, 1:48:04]: You know, you you've seen it in other jurisdictions and it certainly has happened here where information gets out and people get confused and and you know there's a lot of potential drama associated with that that we're trying to avoid by making it clear that when information is ready to be released it's released sort of at the same time. [1:48:04, 1:48:08]: to everybody and you don't have um [1:48:09, 1:48:29]: Just you don't have any inadvertent problems associated with that. And so it's meant to make sure that everyone gets the information at the same time. Um but yes, if someone submits an open record request, yeah, it's possible that information uh could be out the public demand domain before it's [1:48:29, 1:48:49]: ready to be released to you all holistically. Just because someone submits an application doesn't mean that's the final stage. Um we get applications, we get economic development inquiries all the time. People will call and express an interest in a particular parcel. What's it zoned? Is it zone commercial? Is it zoned [1:48:49, 1:49:09]: industrial and if we were yet the staff level to release all that information all the time on a running basis it could just be a cause for potential problems. So the the go ahead can I okay just for instance uh currently we're working on the pine grove public that's [1:49:09, 1:49:29]: That's my subdivision. Um a lot has been going on and I represent those people, those citizens. So if I'm not aware and then something just hits me at the end, I'm not serving them properly. So to me, staff needs to be able to give me a heads up on what's going on. [1:49:29, 1:49:46]: Because if you put this in place, that's gonna limit me and I'm not gonna be able to serve the citizens as I've been elected to do. Um so again, you cannot bind the hands of everyone based off one person or two persons or three persons. So I [1:49:47, 1:49:50]: I'm just kind of torn with this because like you just said [1:49:50, 1:50:06]: Someone can pull open records, but that leaves me as an elected body of not of, you know, being able to be proactive until, you know, it's out. So I you know I I you know, I have to be honest with you. Sometimes [1:50:06, 1:50:07]: You know [1:50:08, 1:50:09]: problems. [1:50:10, 1:50:18]: you know, cause bad legislation. I'm not saying that this is the best, but it's an attempt to address a problem. [1:50:21, 1:50:24]: Okay, uh Ms. Robinson, anything else? [1:50:24, 1:50:28]: Miss Gantt? Yes. Um and and unfortunately and [1:50:29, 1:50:31]: It's sad. Um [1:50:31, 1:50:33]: I have to support the resolution. [1:50:34, 1:50:50]: for the best interest of Stockbridge when it comes to media and other outlets, uh getting a hold or wind of information or putting it out there, even if it's public record. A lot of times developers may come to us or talk to us about a project. [1:50:51, 1:50:53]: And even if they do, um [1:50:54, 1:51:14]: I don't believe it's our place to post it out there or put it out there, um, especially when nothing has been or come, you know, or or they have even applied or received anything at that time. And and they may say, Well, it's okay, I've I've given permission to do so. But are they really gonna say [1:51:14, 1:51:29]: how dare them do this when you're an elected official you have to work with those people, you know, you have to work with us. So they're not gonna say that they really disapprove when they really do. They really don't want us, you know, going out and talking about their projects ahead of time. [1:51:29, 1:51:32]: And whatever we have to do [1:51:32, 1:51:40]: to let businesses know that we're gonna protect them from this, then that's what I'm gonna be for. [1:51:40, 1:52:00]: Um and and if that's the sole purpose of this or or if there's another way around it. I believe we put together some type of media protocol at one point. We've had all kind of things cod from code of conducts to media protocols and now we're we're to this point where we're saying [1:52:00, 1:52:03]: City Council just can't know what's going on. [1:52:03, 1:52:17]: Um whether or not that's appropriate and how do we cure that matter, um b we just don't have a choice right now. Um so that's why I'm for it at this moment. Yeah. [1:52:19, 1:52:25]: Uh comment Mr. Alexander. [1:52:25, 1:52:29]: As a city council member or anybody setting up here, right? [1:52:29, 1:52:49]: I still have citizen rights, or any council member or the mayor would do. That same open records request that I said that a citizen could do, one of us can do it too. So doesn't that make this legislation just worthless? Because the information that the citizen [1:52:49, 1:52:53]: Citizen can request through open records requests. We can do it too. [1:52:54, 1:53:11]: That doesn't take away my citizen rights. I just want us to stop wasting time on worthless legislation. Now, as part of my time to talk, I'm going to say to you all, you know what, I requested that the supplier uh [1:53:11, 1:53:22]: uh diversity policy be put on this agenda. We couldn't do that. But we got time to talk about a worthless policy that's not gonna make a difference to not one citizen [1:53:23, 1:53:43]: Uh and this then. I feel for Mr. Williams right here because he's representing something that he knows is not legally sound, but he can't tell us that because this is his job to do this. This is bad policy. Councilmember Robinson just told you why it's bad policy, and I'm telling you that why it's bad policy. [1:53:43, 1:53:58]: policy now is because all the information that this uh uh prevent prohibits us from receiving, I could receive it, the mayor could receive it, or another councilwoman could receive it by doing an open records request. [1:54:01, 1:54:02]: Is that correct, sir? [1:54:03, 1:54:07]: Is that c then my question is, is that correct I can still make the open records request, right? Yes. [1:54:08, 1:54:09]: Thank you. [1:54:09, 1:54:13]: Okay. Uh any other comments from the council? [1:54:14, 1:54:17]: You have any comments, Mr. Forward? One second. Okay. [1:54:26, 1:54:30]: I have a comment while they're discussing. Okay, Mr. I just want the public to know. Um [1:54:31, 1:54:42]: I have a lot of things that I'm tackling at the moment and if I can't have transparency with staff to serve the citizens. [1:54:43, 1:54:50]: I can't be for this. If it's gonna hinder me. I feel that if we've got one or two that are doing something [1:54:51, 1:55:05]: out of order, we need to figure out a way to address that individually. Um because when we're like I mean you made the comment, the statement, you know, sometimes out of situation there's bad legislation that has to be put forth. [1:55:06, 1:55:09]: I don't want to stand in this seat. [1:55:10, 1:55:14]: having to approve something that's gonna hinder me later. [1:55:15, 1:55:23]: Because I'm here to serve the citizens. And whatever we need to do, if there's one bad apple, we need to deal with it. [1:55:23, 1:55:43]: Um so legally, however we need to deal with it, I think we need to, and I stand with that publicly to say, but I don't want to hinder myself or those that may follow after me not being able to fully serve the citizens because if you really look at this, certain people will still have access being [1:55:43, 1:56:03]: In all honesty, if you're here every day, um staff will have to communicate um with say the mayor who will be here. Um it's you know, and at the same time, I don't want to wear in the past certain information got to certain council members and not all [1:56:03, 1:56:08]: all and I'm not being fully justified on what I need to do for my citizens. [1:56:08, 1:56:18]: Uh just one last comment if I could Mayor. Let me let me protect let me right now protect the integrity of the staff. [1:56:19, 1:56:35]: I personally have not asked a staff member for any information on any development projects, nor has any staff member relayed to me any information that the rest of the council did not have. [1:56:35, 1:56:55]: Uh before I took this position, I do what I do every single day in my private life, uh working with developers and inform getting information out to the community uh independently. As you all see when you go to the municipal dinner, uh there's a certain official from McDonald that [1:56:55, 1:57:15]: delights in the fact that we talk about it, uh new developments coming, they enjoy it. Um, you know, and they announce them and they ask me, well, Elton, did you hear about that first? No. But let me tell you, every development that comes to this area, I know about it a long time before any of this ever reaches the council. [1:57:15, 1:57:15]: Yeah. [1:57:16, 1:57:36]: So for the integrity of the staff, the staff has not done anything inappropriate and they have not shared any information with me personally that they have not shared with anybody else. And no, I do not need the city staff in order to provide me with any information. So uh this is not something that [1:57:36, 1:57:55]: has been a problem. Can somebody show me an instance where uh a staff member actually relayed information to anybody setting up here? Can someone give me a specific example? No one is because I know personally myself, no one's given me any uh privy information uh that I know about. As we talking about [1:57:56, 1:58:16]: Uh the the the development uh that we've always talked about, the big development. I'm not gonna say the name'cause I don't get in that, but no, I knew about that development long before anybody at this city had even touched it. And that's kinda how that happens. But you know, for the integrity of the staff, the staff is not sharing information with me. I don't know if they're sharing [1:58:16, 1:58:17]: Yeah. [1:58:18, 1:58:38]: Thank you, Mr. Alexander. Uh Mr. Ford, I believe, has a comment. Thank you. Uh for you, Mike. Um, since I put the motion in effect here, uh if I want to table this motion, still needs a vote from the council to do that. Or you could or you could withdraw it. Totally withdraw it. What it is is I I kinda want I I I like to that but [1:58:38, 1:58:58]: That'd be good to do that, I guess, in a sense, hearing all the discussion. But I really wanted uh Councilman Blount to be part of this discussion as well. That's why I was thinking about tabling it uh in that aspect. So if I'd like to table this uh to at least the 19th to have at least uh Councilman Blount be involved in the conversation and at least uh give his opinion one way or the other. [1:58:58, 1:59:17]: on that before we make a final decision or even whether or not be you know go down and make a motion accept it or not accept it. Okay? That's fine. So I can do that. I like to take it. Okay. So the m motion is withdrawn and then we're asking I believe you're asking for it to be tabled. Correct is that correct? Correct. Okay. [1:59:17, 1:59:24]: Thank you. Okay, thank you so much. Uh that concludes our new business. At this time, do we have comments from our city manager? [1:59:28, 1:59:48]: Um yes Mayor Neal, I just wanted to uh remind the public about an information open house with the Georgia Department of Transportation this Thursday, December 24th, uh, 2017 at McDonough Christian Center. Uh this uh is an open house to discuss the proposed Western Parallel Connector uh [1:59:48, 1:59:55]: project again it's from 5 to 7 p.m this Thursday December 14th at McDonough Christian Center [1:59:56, 2:00:03]: Could do you give us the address of the McDonough Christian Center? Do you know that address? It's 2000 Jonesboro Road. [2:00:03, 2:00:06]: Two thousand Jonesboro Road. Thank you. [2:00:08, 2:00:11]: Any other comments, Mr. Knighton? [2:00:12, 2:00:28]: No, I just wanted to um um again thank the staff for and and volunteers for all of their hard work on several uh city events uh the past month and a half or so. Uh I think they've all been very successful and we look forward to having even more success next year. Thank you. [2:00:29, 2:00:34]: Right, thank you. Uh Madam Clerk, do we have any comments? Mayor Neil, I have no comments. No comments. [2:00:34, 2:00:39]: Um how about we'll start with Mr. Alexander if you have any additional comments. [2:00:40, 2:00:51]: just like to say thank you everyone for tuning in and um want to say I appreciate everybody participating. Uh the one great thing that I love about the city of Stockbridge is that [2:00:52, 2:00:53]: We g we gather. [2:00:54, 2:01:00]: we fellowship and all the city events that we have are well attended. [2:01:00, 2:01:16]: Uh I think back to when some of the events such as Sounds of Summer and others were were pro brought forward. There was concern at whether those events would be attended. We were told uh that that would not happen, that uh no one would come. [2:01:17, 2:01:37]: But to see how we fellowship during holiday fest, to see how we coalesce during the summer concert series and all of the city events, and to see that our citizens are such giving individuals for the love of this city is absolutely phenomenal. [2:01:37, 2:01:44]: And I just want to thank all you all and I appreciate everything that you do. Thank you. [2:01:45, 2:02:05]: Thank you. Mr. Fulward. Yes, thank you. I appreciate it, Mayor. Uh in reference to the theme of holiday events or events or city events, period, uh the Christmas gala last Thursday I think was outstanding. And uh I think all activities that we have have been outstanding. I say build them and they shall come. And that's what we'll continue to do. We're gonna build up the downtown area and they will come. [2:02:04, 2:02:24]: And we're gonna build up Jodico South and they will come. And they w when they come, they're gonna come from all over the Atlanta metro area and to see Stockbridge and see what's happening down the south side of Atlanta. Okay? So uh citizens keep engaged with us as we continue to move the city forward. And obviously we need to keep a listening ear to your desires and concerns that you have and we continue to move forward on [2:02:24, 2:02:37]: those things and have that open discussion and show transparency. Happy holidays, Merry Christmas, and enjoy your family and relatives during this holiday season and of course 2018, Happy New Year would be an outstanding year. God bless you all. [2:02:38, 2:02:39]: Ms. Gantt. [2:02:40, 2:02:42]: Happy holidays and thank you for coming. [2:02:43, 2:02:44]: Ms. Robinson. [2:02:45, 2:03:05]: Yes, um hopefully everyone um is aware that there's a community give back on this Saturday in our downtown historic district. Um it's gonna be at 9 a.m. at Trinity United Methodist Church. So please come out if you have anything that you would like to give that is a day of giving for our community and it's gonna [2:03:04, 2:03:24]: to be from 9 to 11 and that's at Trinity United Methodist Church. Also Friday night there's an event that you can come to the Ted Strickland building and there's a Christmas event and to enter you need to bring a um unwrapped toy and hopefully everyone will be able to participate in that as well. [2:03:24, 2:03:44]: So we're looking um for everyone to come out for this initiative that I'm t um spearheading on that day. And also at the end, I know we were talking about things earlier, but again, um I just want to go back to serving the citizens. Um we can we can create some bad um [2:03:44, 2:04:04]: policies and different things where it will affect our citizens later just because we're trying to get a vote to change things for one bad apple and it will affect all of our citizens later. So I just want to let our citizens know that I stand here to [2:04:04, 2:04:20]: to let you all know that I'm voting for you, not just a person, a person. I'm voting on your bit for your best interest to make sure that I'm serving you well. Thank you all so much for coming out and have a great evening. [2:04:20, 2:04:26]: Thank you so much. At this time I'm asking our attorney if we are having an executive session. [2:04:29, 2:04:35]: Do I hear a motion to that effect? Mayor Nell, I move that we go into executive session for personnel, real estate, and litigation. [2:04:36, 2:04:41]: All right. We at this time need a motion to adjourn to executive session. Second that. [2:04:43, 2:04:47]: Um any discussion? If not, all in favor. [2:04:48, 2:04:49]: All right, thank you so much. [2:04:55, 2:04:56]: Oh yeah. [2:05:00, 2:05:00]: That happens. [2:05:02, 2:05:04]: Yeah, so [2:05:06, 2:05:07]: This is mine here. [2:05:23, 2:05:24]: But I mean. [2:05:35, 2:05:46]: And then five points with that. [2:05:47, 2:06:07]: Okay. No, this is 19, we don't have a basic one to take. Yeah, but that's supposed to come in that was that time. Yeah. We can so we went follow up. [2:06:07, 2:06:23]: So I have a little bit of a little bit more. [2:06:25, 2:06:29]: [7598.3, 7600.0]: Okay, so I'm [2:06:45, 2:06:46]: Yeah. [2:06:47, 2:06:57]: I think that's all I think that's all using an icon. [2:07:05, 2:07:06]: One of the [2:07:15, 2:07:17]: What did this possibly find? [2:07:20, 2:07:21]: Yeah, yeah. [2:07:33, 2:07:43]: The very ones besides uh good sauce, uh user can be. [3:01:10, 3:01:10]: Yeah. [3:20:51, 3:20:52]: Yeah. [3:20:59, 3:20:59]: Bat. [3:21:00, 3:21:01]: Yeah. [3:21:01, 3:21:07]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [3:21:10, 3:21:12]: This is all about it. [3:21:17, 3:21:20]: But on the phone, all right should we go? [3:21:23, 3:21:25]: Yeah, but that's not. [3:21:40, 3:21:44]: [12106.8, 12110.5]: At this time we need a motion to end the executive session. [3:21:50, 3:21:54]: I want to make a motion to end executive session. [3:21:54, 3:22:01]: We have a motion to end the executive session. Do I hear a second? We have a second from Mr. Ford. Is there discussion? [3:22:01, 3:22:03]: No discussion. All in favor. [3:22:04, 3:22:08]: Now we need a motion to re-enter our council meeting. [3:22:08, 3:22:15]: Second. I have a motion and a second to return to the council meeting. Is there discussion? [3:22:16, 3:22:18]: No discussion. All in favor? [3:22:19, 3:22:20]: Thank you. [3:22:20, 3:22:31]: With nothing to vote on coming from the executive session, uh do I hear a motion to end the evening meeting? So moved. We have a motion to conclude the meeting. Do I hear a second? [3:22:31, 3:22:35]: Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any discussion? [3:22:36, 3:22:39]: No discussion. All in favor? [3:22:40, 3:22:41]: Thank you for your attendance. [3:22:44, 3:22:46]: No, yeah.

--- title: November 28 2017 Work Session Meeting date: 2017-11-28 source: 2017-11-28_November_28_2017_Work_Session_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:06, 0:00:12]: [ 35.0, 55.0]: And people say we're not shooting out. Hey, how are you? [0:01:05, 0:01:23]: I'll speak to you. I'm not going to be a bit more than that. [0:02:49, 0:02:53]: Was he did he here today? [0:02:57, 0:02:58]: Ah yeah. [0:03:05, 0:03:06]: Oh yeah. [0:03:08, 0:03:10]: Yeah, [0:03:33, 0:03:35]: Make from a safe. [0:04:30, 0:04:31]: [274.4, 276.4]: I did. I heard. [0:05:00, 0:05:00]: Yeah. [0:05:48, 0:05:48]: Okay. [0:06:03, 0:06:07]: Is this meeting being aired? They w they're here today, I don't know. [0:06:11, 0:06:13]: We are doing it working on it now as we speak. [0:06:20, 0:06:40]: At this time I would like to call to order the November 28th, Tuesday, 2017 work session meeting of the Stockbridge City Council. And as we begin our meeting, we are delighted to have one of our favorite pastors from the community. [0:06:39, 0:06:55]: We were supposed to have Clinton McFarlane, who is a lead pastor out at Grace Church, but he was traveling, I believe, and so we're having a double honor. We're having the executive pastor come. [0:06:55, 0:07:10]: And I think it's tomorrow. Did I do it right? Tomorrow then. Mara. Carter. And we appreciate you being here and we're gonna ask you if you would to pray for us and then we're gonna ask you to just stay there and we'll do the pledge to the flag before we sit down. [0:07:11, 0:07:12]: And we're so glad you're here. [0:07:12, 0:07:14]: Thank you. Let us pray. [0:07:15, 0:07:20]: Oh God, we thank you now for this opportunity. Lord, we thank you for local government. [0:07:21, 0:07:41]: Lord, we ask your blessings now upon the mayor, the council. Lord, all of the employees that are taking care of the matters of the city. Lord, bless our children as always. And Lord, make certain that our homes are homes of peace. Lord, bless the proceedings here tonight, that they may be done decent and in order. It is in Jesus' name we pray. [0:07:41, 0:07:42]: Amen. [0:07:45, 0:07:57]: The United States of America and to the Republic which stands one nation, under God, indivisible, the liberty and justice for all. [0:08:09, 0:08:12]: At this time we're going to ask our clerk, if she will, to call the roll. [0:08:13, 0:08:14]: Councilman Alexander. [0:08:14, 0:08:25]: Present. Councilman Blount. Here. Mayor Neal. Present. Mayor Pro Tem Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilwoman Robinson. Present. Mayor Neal, you have a quorum. [0:08:25, 0:08:45]: Thank you. At this time we are going to adopt our agenda, but we have a couple of changes to that. So I'm going to call on Ms. Gantt to make those um make a motion to amend the agenda. Yes, Mayor Nara, I'll make a motion to amend the agenda to remove items number one, number six, and number fourteen. [0:08:45, 0:08:46]: Mm. [0:08:48, 0:08:55]: You've heard the recommendation to remove items uh one, six, and fourteen. Is there uh [0:08:55, 0:09:00]: Okay, got a second for that. Is there any discussion on that? [0:09:00, 0:09:02]: If not, all in favor. [0:09:03, 0:09:23]: Thank you. Thank you for your vote. At this time we're going to uh r only review minutes of the following meetings from October 9th, from uh October 24th, and from a work session um also on uh October 24th, and that's just for review only. At this time [0:09:23, 0:09:35]: Madam Clerk, do we have uh any people in our audience who have requested to speak? There are no public comments. No public comments, so we'll move on. At this time um [0:09:36, 0:09:52]: We're going to go into old business and we have an update on our HVAC for the city hall that will be presented by our Public Works Director, Dashus Aaron, and by our city manager, Randy Knighton. [0:09:53, 0:10:13]: Good evening, Madam Mayor and Council. Uh the update on the H SVAC is we're still going through the process of developing the scope. Our engineering, one of our on-call engineers, Carter and Sloop, are preparing the scope of work. So within the next 30 days, we should have scope of work that we can put out for bid for the repair and replacement of, not on the HVAC here at [0:10:13, 0:10:15]: at City Hall but at Merrill Manders as well. [0:10:16, 0:10:21]: Okay, so do you need them to vote on that item? [0:10:21, 0:10:31]: No ma'am, you've already approved the task order f for those services and once we get those that task order completed then we'll come back. Act for the [0:10:31, 0:10:42]: Just ma'am and that. Okay. So you've heard this presentation. Anyone have any questions regarding the um recommendation from our engineering firm? [0:10:46, 0:11:03]: Okay, thank you so much for that. At this time we're going to enter into a public hearing. It's going to be our second public hearing for our proposed 2018 budget. And that's going to be presented by Rashonda Favors, our lead accountant, and also by our city manager, Randy Knighton. [0:11:11, 0:11:13]: Matching. Thank you. [0:11:15, 0:11:19]: Which one did you click on this one right here? Yeah, uhhuh. I guess I didn't do it right. [0:11:21, 0:11:22]: That's a shortcut. [0:11:44, 0:11:45]: Well, the uh PDF. [0:11:46, 0:11:47]: [707.5, 708.5]: What's the video? [0:12:04, 0:12:05]: Oh, it's not responding. [0:12:17, 0:12:19]: Or score. [0:12:21, 0:12:22]: Mm. [0:12:46, 0:12:48]: Like it small? Yes, I can smell things. [0:12:54, 0:12:55]: Good evening. [0:12:55, 0:13:01]: Good evening. Um today I'm just going to present the twenty eighteen proposed [0:13:01, 0:13:05]: budget I'm gonna go through the general fund and just go line by line. [0:13:06, 0:13:07]: For governing body [0:13:08, 0:13:14]: The proposed budget is 293,275. [0:13:15, 0:13:17]: Last year it was 271-1. [0:13:18, 0:13:20]: Um for the executive. [0:13:21, 0:13:24]: It is one million four dollars and four hundred. [0:13:24, 0:13:32]: And then last year it was 739,200 and that is a big change because I believe that includes the assistant city manager position. [0:13:34, 0:13:41]: Um administration is 1,72480. Last year was 1,683,000. [0:13:43, 0:14:03]: Um for business services is 209-680. Now that is a new division that was created before occupational tax fell under financial administration, but now they're under their own department, so the occupational tax clerk as well as the second occupational tax clerk will fall under business services. [0:14:03, 0:14:17]: IT services uh 215-800 last year it was 190-500 uh general government building services 738-525 last year was 702-750. [0:14:18, 0:14:37]: Municipal court one forty nine, two twenty five, last year was two sixty five, two seventy-five, and that's a big drop because of a lot of the court services moved to the state and so we have less court staff. Um we only have one, I think one court employee. [0:14:38, 0:14:51]: court clerk rather. Um police services is three fifty, three hundred fifty thousand, last year was four hundred thousand. Public works, two million four forty five, two thirty. [0:14:51, 0:14:54]: Last year 2 million 134,380. [0:14:56, 0:15:02]: City Events 199-135, last year was 203-815. [0:15:03, 0:15:14]: Um let's see. Parks, the proposed budget is 203,500. Last year it was 65,500. I think that big jump is because of some park improvements. [0:15:14, 0:15:27]: Planning Administration 177900, that's a new department that I believe includes the principal planner, is that correct, Mr. Knighton? Um the principal planner, the new position principal planner. [0:15:28, 0:15:30]: Code enforcement. [0:15:30, 0:15:32]: Uh one fifty one, two eighty five. [0:15:33, 0:15:34]: Lashes 192840. [0:15:35, 0:15:55]: Main Street program 204 950. Last year was 205-445. Planning and development 145,600. Last year, 351,900. And just the other financial services, one 1 million five forty two, nine fifteen, and last year's 1 million four hundred ninety, six forty five. So the total [0:15:55, 0:15:59]: proposed budget is nine million seven fifty five nine hundred [0:16:02, 0:16:04]: Mr. Knighton, do you have any comments? [0:16:08, 0:16:28]: I would I would also like to mention uh as Rishonda um had alluded to, some of the park improvement increases you're seeing is a result of what are some expected improvements at several of the parks, uh including uh Clark Gardner Park and Memorial Park replacing uh some aging equipment. [0:16:28, 0:16:48]: uh some trail bridges at Reeves Creek, repairing walking trails at Clark and Gardner, um also expanding uh storage buildings, parking lots, things of that nature. There's also some increases for security upgrades at several of our uh buildings as well. And one of the increases or significant increases was related to LMIG local maintenance uh [0:16:48, 0:17:08]: improvement grant funds and that's based on some state criteria lane miles and a formula for our match and so we saw a significant increase um uh there as well and as Rishonda alluded to there are a couple of new positions which are proposed uh assistant city manager and then some planning uh positions which is related [0:17:08, 0:17:21]: related to our taking in permitting from Henry County. And so many of those line items increased as a result of those newer responsibilities that we'll be taking on. [0:17:25, 0:17:29]: Okay. Um do we have any questions? [0:17:29, 0:17:44]: Before we move forward, I have one down the end first. Yes, I do. Thank you, Mayor. Um on the m Main Street program, so I could see a jump when we went from t every year it increases. So [0:17:44, 0:17:48]: Are we gonna do anything differently with our main street? [0:17:51, 0:18:05]: I think some of those increases are related to some of the programs we have going on on now, RSVP. Okay. Some of those other programs that we expect to to come to fruition in some way next year. Okay. Uh and so additional uh expenditures are expected to be made. [0:18:06, 0:18:26]: Okay. Do we have any other questions? Mr. Ford I know had a question. Well actually is a more or less a comment. I appreciate the fact that uh Mr. Nighton gave some significant points in reference to the increases. That's what I was really looking for when he mentioned about the increases or decreases. What caused that? And so you gave some some idea what those were. I appreciate that. Probably a couple of more. [0:18:26, 0:18:33]: that were maybe not touched on but uh I'll I'll get to that lady later. I'll I'll figure that out. But thank you for that. Appreciate it. [0:18:34, 0:18:35]: Any other comments? [0:18:36, 0:18:47]: Um I have one first down here. Uh Ms. Gantt. Yes. Um in business services the the new amount of 209-680, what exactly is that for? [0:18:49, 0:18:50]: Camilla here. [0:18:50, 0:19:04]: Sorry, which what I'm sorry. For business services an amount of two hundred and nine thousand six hundred and eighty dollars, what exactly is business services entailing? Well business services occupational tax will now be business services. [0:19:04, 0:19:24]: So was it pulled from occupational tax and it's just it's no longer under the financial administration. It has its own category now. So they have their own budget. So there was no increase or decrease or did that that number decrease from where it was located in the past? Well I think there probably is a slight increase maybe because [0:19:24, 0:19:32]: because there's additional occupational tax clerk now and that wasn't previously budgeted for. So now there's two occupational tax clerks. [0:19:32, 0:19:52]: But the the source of your question was it was moved from finance to its own department now or under administrative and community services. Got it. And in regards to the splots uh in regards to the parks, the the jump and the amount for the parks is pretty significant. It went from sixty five thousand five hundred. [0:19:52, 0:19:58]: hundred to two or three, five hundred because of some of the things we want to do with the park. Does Splot funds not take care of that? [0:20:00, 0:20:18]: Um there are certain items that could be funded out of splost, one of which is expanded parking lot at Reeves Creek Trail. I know that's one of them that was mentioned. But I don't believe some some of the other ones in terms of the expanse that we want to do at the parks could be under SPLOSS. But that's a very good point. And [0:20:18, 0:20:35]: If there are items that could readily be done by SPLOST, obviously we want to tap into the SPLOST fund first before general fund. But these items, as I understand it, are primarily coming from the general fund because they would not be SPLOST eligible. And I'll defer to Descius if he if he has any further comment about that. [0:20:38, 0:20:58]: As well as C D B G. Sorry, I wanna tag that on with it. So as well as C D B G funds as well. I just wanna tag both uh m my biggest concern is making sure that we exhaust the rev you know, revenues from SPLOSS and C D B G funds prior to utilizing any general funds. [0:20:58, 0:21:00]: For um [0:21:00, 0:21:20]: Improvements. Yes, ma'am. Uh new improvements would be eligible like the expanded parking lot at Reed's Creek, but the other things are maintenance issues like the walking trails where the routes are causing the the uh trail to buckle, those would have to be paid for out of the out of the general fund since it's a maintenance issue. But the new [0:21:20, 0:21:40]: items that can be paid for out of splots we'll do that but it's just a a big to do list'cause some of the parts are showing their age and we've got to do some things to make improvements and I know one of the concerns is a lot of people walk Gardner Park and Clark Park and you know, and a lot of'em out there at dusk, some uh out there at dawn and [0:21:40, 0:21:48]: We don't want anybody to stumble or get injured or anything like that. So we just doing some cosmetic and some preventive maintenance work. [0:21:49, 0:21:49]: Thank you. [0:21:51, 0:21:54]: Okay, I believe we had a question from Mr. Alexander. [0:21:55, 0:22:11]: Yes, thank you so much. Uh the what I s observed is a drop in the budget for the code enforcement, uh, from where it was previously, uh where we're looking at going from one ninety two, eight four eight forty [0:22:11, 0:22:15]: to one hundred fifty one two eighty five uh whether [0:22:16, 0:22:36]: Could you kinda l elaborate on that that we're you know that we're not losing any services and I think Miss Moore had previously mentioned uh that we were going to add some new equipment to make the apart department more efficient in terms of um has uh beh having the officers come back here [0:22:36, 0:22:42]: to visit versus being able to do it digitally uh with handheld devices. [0:22:43, 0:22:47]: I know that one reason for the drop is last year we budgeted for vehicles. [0:22:48, 0:23:07]: So that was one reason. Of course we're not budgeting for that this year because we both we have both vehicles. So that was one reason for the draw. Apparently there we there was a vehicle budgeted the previous year and this year. So we won't have any vehicles to purchase in this upcoming year. So we'll have the same we'll have the same staff obviously, but we don't have the the purchase of the vehicle upcoming in this year. [0:23:07, 0:23:25]: Okay, and the equipment that Miss Moore had mentioned to us previously, uh, to help efficiency in that department, is that how is that captured uh in the budget where they would be using the handheld devices or or being able to digitally log in versus returning the city hall? Is she [0:23:30, 0:23:30]: That last year. [0:23:32, 0:23:43]: Yeah, last year I think they also purchased some GIS software. So that was also in the budget for last year. Okay, so it's it's already been captured already. Okay. All right. Second question. Um [0:23:43, 0:23:45]: In terms of uh [0:23:46, 0:24:06]: projects um kinda like the finishing the MLK trail and then um uh uh stuff like that. Is that a separate uh capital improvement project or something like that uh in the budget. Uh I know with the cur currently the trail stops um about halfway through. Uh [0:24:06, 0:24:17]: where it's completion instead of going toward Rock Quarry Road. Uh w is there the s is there gonna be a separate uh capital improvement projects where that might be captured at um going forward? [0:24:19, 0:24:29]: think if it's if it's a new section of a trail it could be potentially captured by splost, a new section, not maintenance. So I think we would look towards splost first for the new section of a trail. [0:24:31, 0:24:37]: Okay. Any other questions or comments? Yes. One more if I could. Okay. Go ahead. Mr. Alexander. [0:24:38, 0:24:58]: In terms of the number that we have um plugged in uh for police services, uh based on where we are in terms of uh with the county and and all of that, go into how we kinda came up with that so the public can kinda understand uh what that number is. [0:24:58, 0:25:13]: represents and prepare them from some fluctuation just in case there was an agreement or something that we were able to hammer out with an SDS agreement with um Henry County. [0:25:14, 0:25:34]: For for the balance of 18, we'd be looking at a same or similar type service with Henry County for Henry County Police. Now, the service delivery strategy uh has to be completed by October of 2018 with Henry County and all of its cities. Uh we've met to myself uh with the other city managers and the county manager uh a couple of weeks ago. [0:25:34, 0:25:46]: we met and in fact we've got a meeting scheduled for uh next week as well to continue our service delivery strategy uh discussions negotiations. Now obviously the police services [0:25:46, 0:25:50]: part of it, component, will be a significant one for us. [0:25:50, 0:26:02]: And as we enter into an area of negotiation, obviously I will keep you all informed about how those discussions go, but that probably would not be experienced until 2019. [0:26:03, 0:26:16]: Okay, I guess to follow up upon that, this four hundred thousand dollar number is based on what? Is that communication that we have received or how's this number calculated that we come up with the four hundred thousand? [0:26:17, 0:26:18]: Yeah, that's well [0:26:19, 0:26:30]: That includes just the regular police policing of the parks, uh, the businesses, uh the city council meetings, the events, that's what that number includes. That's what that is for. [0:26:31, 0:26:32]: Paying the police officers. [0:26:35, 0:26:55]: Okay. I believe Ms. Robinson has a question. Yes, thank you, Mayor. Um the city events. I know I just looking at that we actually decreased that. Um so I just want to make sure that we won't have to uh keep amending the budget like we were doing our, you know, the bridge fest or whatever. Um because I know we had a meeting after the event. [0:26:55, 0:27:05]: But I just don't want us to have to go back later um and to amend because if they're not ready, but we want to still make sure that the city is offering um [0:27:06, 0:27:26]: an event for all the citizens. So can you just tell me a little bit about that? Sure. Councilman, I think that primarily we tried to marry it to this year's expense. I understand your point, which is a certainly a valid one. We'll go back and take another look at it just to make sure, but I think we feel fairly comfortable that that number will carry us forward in the events that we [0:27:26, 0:27:46]: We have determined for next year, have calendared for next year, but we'll go back and take a look at it just to make sure that we we are we feel comfortable that we can be covered. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Mr. Forward. Yeah, in a follow-up to Councilwoman Robinson's um actual comment there. [0:27:46, 0:27:53]: Um when I looked at this under the city events, the biggest step uh discrepancy in the sense or reduction I guess says [0:27:53, 0:28:13]: If I got it right, group insurance, medical-wise, okay. But there is a reduction in advertising. And after having the veterans uh AAR meeting today, we talked quite a bit about advertising across the board uh with the event staff in reference to making sure that we get the word out there more often and better. So I would think that we really want to look at this. [0:28:13, 0:28:33]: per se on the advertising pit for city events to potentially look at it increasing that amount. Right, and that's that's a valid point, Mayor Pro Tem. I think two things I would mention. One is we will have a public information officer going into next year, which I think will help us better leverage media resources to get the word out. [0:28:33, 0:28:37]: about the various events that we have. And um [0:28:38, 0:28:40]: Second point. [0:28:41, 0:29:01]: And that was discussed as well in the meeting earlier today. Absolutely. Okay. Thank you. Um and advertising is budgeted for each individual event has [0:29:01, 0:29:09]: has its own advertising budget. So this is additional advertising. Okay. Okay. All right, thank you. Okay. [0:29:09, 0:29:29]: One one follow up please if I could. Uh yes, Mr Alexander. Yes, in terms of I've we've talked about the PIO officer and that's coming on and we're bringing that on and we had that discussion and Mayor Pro Tem is right on point with um you know making sure that we have during the veterans parade um you know we want as many people [0:29:28, 0:29:39]: out their appreciation of what our veterans do uh serving the country. Um in terms of um whilst one second. [0:29:49, 0:30:09]: Okay, I'm sorry. Um I lost my place there. Um I'm sorry, it will come back to me. Same thing. I'm sorry. I lost my trade of thought there. Okay, well keep in mind tonight's not the last night. This is just our second night to uh go over the budget and we'll I'm I'm sorry, it did come back to me. In terms of the PI [0:30:09, 0:30:29]: old position. We have a salary designated for that particular position. But in terms of marketing, that person is going to need some money in terms to up to in order to do their job. Well they can call the media, they can call the newspaper, but is there a budget for them to spend to uh [0:30:29, 0:30:31]: Help get the message out. [0:30:31, 0:30:51]: Could could I interject a question on piggyback onto that? Even though the advertising money is noted by event, would the PIO officer not have the authority to be in charge of that money? Right. I think when we when we approach events or plan for events, the PIO [0:30:51, 0:31:11]: PIO obviously would be very involved in that whole process with the event staff and the other relevant personnel. And that advertising line item, if you will, would certainly be at the disposal of the staff, including the PIO, to ensure that we are providing enough coverage. [0:31:11, 0:31:16]: throughout uh the city and the county for the events that we uh hold next year. So yes. [0:31:17, 0:31:17]: Okay. [0:31:18, 0:31:21]: Uh any um Mr. Blount I think has a question. [0:31:21, 0:31:28]: Yeah, with the uh increase that we're looking at um which is significant from 2017 to 2018. [0:31:28, 0:31:42]: Uh I'm still doing the checks and balances on my own. So um with residual um funding that's gonna be needed'cause I know s uh right now we're pulling some out of fund balance. Have we looked at whether the fund's gonna be residual funding because [0:31:43, 0:31:50]: Well the out of the budget that we have coming in, we have a set budget and the with the increase that the significant increase for next year. [0:31:51, 0:32:03]: versus what's coming in, how are we gonna be how are we gonna sustain the the increase that is that is late for the I think I understand your question. The budget is balanced. It's ba it the budget is balanced even though there's an increase from last year to this year. [0:32:04, 0:32:21]: Based on the revenue that we expect to um obtain um next year, the budget is balanced. So we would not be pulling from any fund balance based on the current budget that you have before you. One of the significant increases, I believe, if I recall, was um the insurance premium tax, as I recall. [0:32:21, 0:32:35]: We expected a significant increase based on the actuals that we have already received in 2017. We projected that forward in 2018. So we're seeing an increase there in revenue. So the bullet the budget, proposed budget, is balanced for 2018. [0:32:35, 0:32:42]: Without drawing from any fund balance or reserves. Would we not be bringing in our revenue from our new planning [0:32:42, 0:32:45]: Department there would we do expect uh [0:32:46, 0:33:06]: revenue to be brought forward from it. It's kind of it was somewhat difficult to gauge based on the activity we expect we do expect to see receive revenue from our permitting, which we have taken over from Henry County. Now of course we had to outlay some funds to gear up to be able to handle it. [0:33:06, 0:33:11]: Yes, we do expect there to be some revenue which which I I would hope would offset those increases. [0:33:11, 0:33:25]: Um just a quick follow-up and I guess on it it would be on administrat uh administration I believe. So when we start digging into this and then going into it further, we're gonna look at those those uh a lot of positions that we wanted to put in. [0:33:26, 0:33:39]: That's gonna be bringing a residual funding for, uh I guess we'll kinda get into that later on, uh because I'm not clear on all the positions that we're we're adding with this with this one-line item. [0:33:41, 0:33:59]: With and I can I can just mention real quick if if if you like what new positions are proposed. There is a senior instead of principal, a senior planner position that's proposed, an assistant city manager position that's proposed, a wastewater collection operator position that is proposed. [0:34:03, 0:34:04]: Yeah. [0:34:10, 0:34:16]: Second utility clerk, which would be full time, from part time to full time, as I recall. [0:34:17, 0:34:23]: The the public information officer position, of course, is being carried over from this year. Yes. [0:34:23, 0:34:27]: as well as the economic development manager position is being carried over this year. [0:34:28, 0:34:31]: We are um allocating in this budget [0:34:31, 0:34:33]: proposing fifty thousand dollars for [0:34:34, 0:34:35]: Um [0:34:35, 0:34:37]: Uh a Splash manager. [0:34:37, 0:34:39]: uh to help us with our SPLOSS program. [0:34:43, 0:34:44]: But we're talking about it. [0:34:45, 0:34:50]: Excuse me, just a minute. Let's go back and let Mr. Blount finish and then we'll pick up the other questions. [0:34:51, 0:34:57]: So are we when you talk of supplies management, are we talking about the same thing as the project manager system? Yes, yes. Okay. [0:34:59, 0:35:10]: Okay. Uh let's go down to Mr. Ford. Okay, that once again that pro thank you, Mayor. That project manager, is that the that's not the lead planner we're talking about? That is that's a separate. So it's so it's not actually [0:35:11, 0:35:22]: highlighted in yellow on on this. It is off to the I'm sorry, it's off to the left under project manager. You see that off in the blue to the left. Okay. Okay. Apologize for that. That may be difficult to see. [0:35:23, 0:35:38]: And uh the assistant city man the assistant city manager. Yes you have the conference center, those folks reporting to that individual. That's correct. And the admin assistants. I should know this question. Those conference managers right now, and these people that are lined up, they report to who right now? [0:35:39, 0:35:41]: His manager. They report directly to you. [0:35:42, 0:36:02]: Yes. The thought with the assistant city manager position is to provide guidance and support uh for uh events and that that conference center section, but also the assistant city manager position has um um will have much of the authority as the city manager [0:36:02, 0:36:20]: in the city manager's absence and will be provided certain assignments, specific assignments and or special projects that will help the city. And in fact, if the assistant city manager position is approved, they may be assigned over a specific department or another department as well. [0:36:21, 0:36:25]: Because the assistant city manager position is not currently [0:36:25, 0:36:39]: um um budgeted uh or assigned via our organizational chart. I placed it under the city manager. I did have the oversight of the conference center and uh events, but that assistant city manager position will [0:36:39, 0:36:45]: have the latitude under the direction of the city manager to handle other responsibilities as well. [0:36:45, 0:36:47]: Okay. Any other questions? [0:36:48, 0:36:55]: If not, um unless the two of you who are presenting have any further comments, we will [0:36:55, 0:37:02]: uh yield and leave the public hearing on budget and we'll look forward to you coming back in the future. [0:37:03, 0:37:13]: Oh that's right. Thank you for always reminding me of that. Uh is anyone in the room uh wanting to comment or ask a question before we move forward? [0:37:14, 0:37:18]: Uh Mr. Stewart, would you like to stand and ask your question? [0:37:19, 0:37:25]: Uh I think all we all gotta call the those. [0:37:34, 0:37:54]: I'm Ali Stewart, I live at 101 Garden Walk Stockbridge. I met with uh city manager earlier this weekend or last week, I believe it was, and gave him a copy of uh some of my questions in regards to the budget. Uh number one, I want to commend you all a balanced budget is good, but when you can come in under balanced budget is easy. [0:37:54, 0:38:14]: even better yet. I think if and what I could do is still get all the answers to what I asked on these on it here. See we're talking the first page. So we're talking aggregate big monies. But there's a lot of little monies that add up to big monies that don't make sense or that we probably could do a [0:38:14, 0:38:20]: better job on that's the whole purpose of asking some of those questions. For example [0:38:20, 0:38:34]: on TE grants and I think everybody gonna have to go in that story what TE grants are. But for the last two years we haven't applied for any. But as Mr. Alexander asked, what are we gonna do about MLK Senior Trail? [0:38:34, 0:38:54]: Now you can't s we can pay for it out of our pocket, but on one of those, if you understand those grants, you can get those. 80% the city pays for, I mean the state pays for, 20% we pay for. I'll buy a car anytime somebody gonna buy me 80% of it and let me pay 20%. You've got to plan for [0:38:54, 0:39:14]: Forward. There's got to be a plan out there. You just can't we're gonna put that trail in now and all these others. So that's why I was saying something we need a five year I'd like to see and be work uh we have a five year physical plan laid out and this is what you should be spending as you come down the line and and brainstorm and uh have some [0:39:14, 0:39:17]: some of the ideas. For example, the the Veterans Event. [0:39:18, 0:39:21]: We spent zero money on veterans events. [0:39:21, 0:39:31]: after the first year. I raised all the money just going out and asking the people to give us there was thirty five hundred dollars left over the last year. [0:39:31, 0:39:51]: So putting money, you know, always putting money to it is not it. The f the citizens feel better when they know that they've turned around and the businesses that let some, hey, I haven't found anybody that ever turned me down going, hey, would you like to give some money$500 towards the Veterans Day? In a heartbeat, they do it. And it's and it's things like that. But there's some [0:39:51, 0:40:09]: questions in there that need to be answered and stuff uh that I've you know I'm not gonna go through all of them on it there but but uh I'd like to see some of those answered in there like uh so the the T T E grant was one but like there was the somewhere's I missed it somewhere's [0:40:10, 0:40:11]: Oh for the the L make. [0:40:12, 0:40:22]: We always had a list out, because that's one of the big howing stones and I know uh my street needs it. Who, since you're putting out who's gone streets are being paved. [0:40:23, 0:40:40]: Put that list I'm all for it. The bigger the L Mick, the happier I am. But who's gonna get those streets and how's it there should be a prioritized list on that there and that doesn't tell us when that's gonna turn around and be done. But things like the youth council, I am a hundred and ten percent for the youth council. [0:40:41, 0:41:01]: But we we went eighty per went from ten thousand to eighteen thousand and you know, that's it doesn't seem like much money, but uh for the kids, you know, taking them off to the SIG of uh city what all these other uh Liga cities and stuff like that, those are great ideas, but I'm talking about locally, what are we affect and doing [0:41:01, 0:41:21]: And there's ideas of ways to spend that money more locally than go going to conventions and stuff. And there's already in the books, there's three different events and stuff. But I just say w I ask that we that's the reason why I propose this the questions to it and I'm sure Mr. Knight will get me back with all the detailed answers on it there because I want to take up all your time. [0:41:21, 0:41:41]: That was the reason why I I'm I am 110% behind you. I think we've got a group now be considerative spending the money instead of all big land deals and all this other stuff. And that's what I asked you to do. [0:41:41, 0:41:55]: It's just not accounted for or not fully explained. So like when you throw that money out there and and the old rule of thumb in graduate school and military and else, if the budget moves ten percent up or down [0:41:55, 0:42:15]: Explain it, because inflation don't move that much. I had a boss that if they moved five percent, they wanted to know. But when you're gonna make that, that lets us know because my paycheck and my retirement check didn't go up ten percent. So I don't expect the city to be doing the same, spending more than what the average Joe out here is making. Appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. [0:42:15, 0:42:16]: Thank you, Mr Stewart. [0:42:19, 0:42:28]: Any other comments from the audience? Anyone have a comment that they want to make about the budget before we leave the uh public hearing? [0:42:29, 0:42:33]: Okay, uh in that case we will leave the public hearing. [0:42:33, 0:42:39]: Thank you very much. Now then we're going to go back to our meeting calendar here. [0:42:40, 0:42:50]: agenda and at this time we're going to be dealing with under new business with item four and this is going to be um [0:42:51, 0:43:10]: Council consideration to approve the City of Stockbridge Annual Splost Report. And this is a requirement by OCGA 48-8-122. And it also will be presented by our lead accountant, Rashonda Favors, and by our city manager, Randy Knighton. [0:43:12, 0:43:30]: Um this is the SPLAS schedule for 2017. Um it's my understanding it has to be published. Is that correct, Vanessa? Um and it just lists the the project and the amounts that are being expended. The first half is SPLOS three, the last, the bottom half is splas four. [0:43:31, 0:43:43]: This is a report that has to be published in the legal organ annually every year, and so uh these are the numbers that are provided for the legal organ uh to meet the statutory requirements. [0:43:44, 0:44:04]: Okay, we thank you. Does um yes, I want to remind Mr. Knighton, soft voice needs to be close to microphone. They say they can't hear you in the back. Um but we um have heard this presentation. We have copies of it in your booklets and I don't think we do we need a vote for this or we just [0:44:04, 0:44:10]: We do need a vote. All right, so um do I hear a motion to accept the spliced report? [0:44:11, 0:44:12]: So moved. [0:44:12, 0:44:13]: I second. [0:44:13, 0:44:16]: Okay, we have a second by Ms. Gantt. [0:44:16, 0:44:18]: Is there any discussion? [0:44:19, 0:44:21]: If not, all in favor? [0:44:22, 0:44:23]: Thank you for your vote. [0:44:26, 0:44:42]: Okay, item number five, council consideration to approve 2017 bad debt write-offs of$24,266.23. This too will be presented by Miss Favors, our lead accountant. [0:44:43, 0:44:50]: And I'm sure as you're presenting you're going to give us a full understanding of what those write-offs are all about. Yes. [0:44:50, 0:45:10]: Um the bad debt write-off this year is 24,266.23 and this is just a annual audit exercise that we do. The auditors recommend. The industry standard for these are usually two to five percent. We're less than one percent, and we are usually always are. Um and this is just fees from when someone [0:45:10, 0:45:30]: Someone moves, uh utility billing fees that aren't being paid, someone moves or just fails to pay. Um, by writing them off, that doesn't mean that we can't collect, we'll still be in collections. Um, but it's just something that we have to do. This is just an identification of how much. Okay. You've heard uh her report of this [0:45:30, 0:45:42]: twenty four thousand two hundred and sixty six dollars that even though they are calling it our write off, they will still be trying to collect some of this money after the fact. Um [0:45:43, 0:45:52]: I'm moving. I move that we approve the 2017 BAT debt write-offs in the amount of$24,266.23. [0:45:53, 0:46:00]: Second. All right, we have a motion and we have a second. Um, do we have any discussion of these this amount of money? [0:46:01, 0:46:03]: Alright, if not, all in favor. [0:46:04, 0:46:06]: Thank you for your vote. [0:46:06, 0:46:22]: All right, item number six council consideration to approve twenty eighteen waste sewer rates and this will be presented by Miss Favors, our lead accountant, and by Dasha Sarin, our public works director. Mayor Neal, that item was removed from the agenda. [0:46:23, 0:46:26]: Beg your pardon. This that item was removed from the agenda. [0:46:27, 0:46:34]: Uh that was item seven. Six. Item six. Yes. Oh sorry. Didn't mark it up. [0:46:35, 0:46:45]: Okay, seven. Let's go to seven. Council consideration to approve 2018 meeting schedule for a city council presented by Vanessa Holliday, our city clerk. [0:46:45, 0:47:05]: Thank you, Mayor and Council. Before you we have options for the twenty eighteen meeting schedule. These the schedule has to be published in the legal organ before January one. Option number one is for the second Monday. [0:47:05, 0:47:25]: of each month to continue to meet at 6 o'clock and the work session meeting also to be held at 6 o'clock. Option number two is for the second meeting Monday of the month, meeting to be held at 6 o'clock. The work session meeting to be held at 3 o'clock [0:47:25, 0:47:28]: and I've also heard the option of poor clock on that one. [0:47:30, 0:47:33]: Option number three. [0:47:33, 0:47:53]: is for your second Monday meeting to be held at three o'clock and your work session meeting to be held at six o'clock. And option number four is for your second Monday meeting to be held at six o'clock and your choice of date and time for the [0:47:53, 0:47:55]: the work session meeting. [0:47:57, 0:48:06]: Okay, we have heard um the options that you have. Do I hear a motion for any one of those four options? [0:48:08, 0:48:21]: I have um uh motion for Mr. Ford. Yes, Mayor, appreciate it. I'll make uh I'd like to make a motion that option one is what we we propose for 2018 for our city council meetings as well as our work sessions. Second. [0:48:22, 0:48:35]: Okay, we have a motion. We have a second. Is there any discussion? Uh let me go back and ask the clerk if she would for the sake of the audience to read that motion number, I mean that item number one option. [0:48:36, 0:48:42]: So the items are the same thing. [0:48:43, 0:48:44]: Seven. [0:48:45, 0:48:51]: Okay. All right. For those listening, that would be both meetings would be at six o'clock. We have a motion. [0:48:51, 0:49:00]: And we have a second, I believe. Yes, second. All right, we have a motion. We have a second. And we've any more discussion? [0:49:01, 0:49:15]: No discussion then oh Mr. Blount I believe. Let me go. No, you go. Okay, I have one. Um I propose option number two. We're we have uh we've got to vote on the you have to vote on what the option I mean the uh [0:49:15, 0:49:20]: We're in the middle of the state. But I can say that. [0:49:21, 0:49:41]: Um and telling and the reason why is because I want to be able to reach all the citizens. Um in our work sessions such as this, it gives our citizens during the day hours. So if we start at three or four, as um originally was stated, so our seniors or those that are at home or able [0:49:41, 0:50:01]: to come out and participate in what we're discussing. It's no different than what our county is doing. They have nine A.M. meetings, so I don't want the citizens to think that Stockbridge is completely changing things, but we're actually to me would be accommodating all of our citizens. So we're no different than when the county has [0:50:01, 0:50:10]: their meetings at 9 a.m. and then again at 6 30 p.m. They do this every month. So I don't want um [0:50:10, 0:50:30]: this to take place as if we're just trying to not reach our citizens. Because if we're going to do this, I want to say to my colleagues, let's be mindful of our citizens' time. A lot of times we get out of here at 10, 11 o'clock, and I think to me that is selfish and we need to be considerate. [0:50:30, 0:50:50]: of everyone, even our staff. So if we're going to do this, we need to be mindful and considerate of our staff when we're doing this. And that's my take on it. Okay, so we're having discussion on our original motion was to leave both meetings at 6 p.m. [0:50:50, 0:50:51]: Mr. Blount has a comment. [0:50:52, 0:50:53]: Um [0:50:53, 0:51:03]: I think that um talking to some of the citizens that uh they have voiced to me uh about an earlier meeting because excuse me when we look around the room even now [0:51:04, 0:51:18]: There's no citizens here. And so those citizens that are washing themselves and then they have staff already here uh t in full capacity, uh I think uh I'm I'm for option two also, uh, whether it's three or four o'clock. [0:51:19, 0:51:29]: Okay. Um any other discussion on the first original motion which was to keep the meetings at 6 p.m. Any other discussion? Uh Ms. Gantt. [0:51:30, 0:51:50]: Um m m one of my concerns and I don't know if we should go ahead and vote on this tonight or not. Um I wanna speak to counsel a little bit more on this. One of my only concerns is that I I am employed, I do work, and so you know, I would it one easy fix for me is [0:51:50, 0:52:10]: is to file leave of absence on dates that we have meetings in the middle of a day. But I also want the council to consider before we vote on this, considering having our work sessions not so formal, more personal. And I know that, you know, m most people are saying, oh we need [0:52:10, 0:52:30]: For transparency purposes, we need to be in front of the camera. I don't know if that's an easy fix to have a camera in the conference room down in Patrick Henry or wherever the case may be. But to have a round table discussion and really sit down and have a real work session, I think would get us far. [0:52:30, 0:52:50]: Council to consider that. Um I think it's important that we have that. Um I think that it would our meetings would flow a little bit better um on our regular scheduled meeting if we were able to sit down at a work session session and not be so formal like we are right now. [0:52:49, 0:52:57]: And so having said that I'm I'm not prepared today, uh I want council to consider that as well. [0:52:57, 0:53:03]: Okay. Um any more discussion? Did you have another comment, Mr. Alexander? All right. [0:53:03, 0:53:13]: In in in effect, I understand, you know, the argument behind what we're trying to do. But in my own personal case and what I the counsel would be four people. [0:53:14, 0:53:29]: Because I would not be here for about fifty percent of those meetings because of what is going on with my work schedule. When I took this position, I agreed to sign up for the meetings at the time that they were. [0:53:30, 0:53:50]: according to the charter and according to what they had previously been. So, you know, I asked my teammates to to consider that fact that what we signed up for is what we got. Now, if you wanna go to a situation where we're voting on things or we're moving things forward, we have four council members [0:53:50, 0:54:10]: instead of the five elected then that that is your choice in order to make. But I've already gone on record and I think Miss Kent hit it right on the head is that, you know, especially, you know, y none of us know which if we'll have to change positions or not or what we might have to do in terms of our employment, especially asking a new employer [0:54:09, 0:54:29]: to uh accommodate uh a middle of the day meeting on a regular basis. That's something that is not is sometimes frowned upon in terms of the advancement of your career. I've had some concern come through from citizens about uh working people which I am one of that would be able to [0:54:29, 0:54:49]: whether or not they would be able to attend the meeting. I think we've had some discussions in terms of implementing a consent agenda where we bundle items together in order to speed up the meetings, maybe a more effective way in order to speed up the meeting so that we're not discussing every single item. The county uses uh [0:54:49, 0:54:59]: consent agenda and luck and most times people do. I just asked to keep that in consideration and uh I just uh would ask that uh that would be considered. [0:55:00, 0:55:14]: Okay. If there are no uh other comments uh to make on this motion that we have on the floor, which would be uh option number one, both meetings remaining at six o'clock, all in favor of that motion. [0:55:15, 0:55:20]: Okay, the motion has failed. Is there another motion on the floor? [0:55:20, 0:55:26]: May Mayor Neal, you actually need to call for those opposed'cause somebody may all opposed? [0:55:28, 0:55:31]: I abstain. We have one abstaining. [0:55:35, 0:55:38]: Another abstaining? Uh. [0:55:38, 0:55:41]: Anybody opposed? Anybody abstained? [0:55:41, 0:55:43]: All right, we have one opposed, two abstained. [0:55:43, 0:55:45]: I have a Mayor Neal comment. [0:55:46, 0:55:47]: You have to break the tie. [0:55:49, 0:56:09]: You have to break the tie. I've got to break the c tie. Okay, well I have no problem doing that because if you remember a year ago when I first came here, I presented to you an idea to have at least one of your meetings in the afternoon. So the older people like me and others who might um be the silver hair. [0:56:09, 0:56:29]: crowd that would like to come in the evening or people that perhaps do work, odd shifts might like to come. I'm going I'm going to come back. And um and and I presented the idea of having a work session around a table where you can really just put all your great ideas out there and help each other refine ideas. [0:56:29, 0:56:39]: So I have no problem uh breaking the tie to kill the first to point of order. There's not a point of order. I'm sorry. [0:56:40, 0:56:43]: Can I just a moment. Can I let's go to our attorney. He has come in. [0:56:45, 0:57:01]: It's two to one. There is either. Two to one. Okay. As as we said, the motion failed. Okay, now then we're going to get to have another call for a new motion. [0:57:02, 0:57:02]: Yeah. [0:57:04, 0:57:24]: So I can't change it. You can make a chance to ask you to make a motion to change it. Okay. Okay, so now that motion is dead, correct? Per our attorney. First motion on item one, that one's gone. Okay, number uh two, we're gonna take that up. [0:57:24, 0:57:30]: Or we're gonna go to ask if any council member has another motion they want to make on the Mayor Neil. [0:57:31, 0:57:51]: I move that we table this until our next meeting so that the council can discuss where the meetings will be located. I think we have way too many options on the table here to go back and forth on. Unless other councilmen I know that two council members have agreed to one option. I'm still gonna have another vote of abstention and I'm assuming that it will [0:57:51, 0:58:10]: go down the same road. I think that um and my only reason for abstaining is because I feel as though even if I agree to the meetings at six and six, I would like the work session to be in the Patrick Henry and based off of the option one, they're both in the chamber. Okay. Mayor? [0:58:11, 0:58:15]: Uh I'd like to ask our attorney a question. Um [0:58:15, 0:58:19]: Is there a way that they can make a motion? [0:58:19, 0:58:39]: on about the future meetings. Do they have to go exactly by this? No. If you want to make a motion saying that the meeting is the work session is going to be in the um Levi room or the Patrick Henry room, that would be you can make it. So we won't call it items two, three or four. [0:58:39, 0:58:41]: Uh if you want to make a motion. [0:58:42, 0:58:52]: You can make your motion. That actually is option number four where you decide on your work session. All right, read out read um item four again. [0:58:54, 0:59:07]: Madam War, if I may, just to simplify it, item four is having the regular session at six o'clock as we've always done it. And then it allows council members to designate [0:59:08, 0:59:11]: Uh the day of the month, the uh [0:59:11, 0:59:16]: Work. [0:59:17, 0:59:20]: Do that subject to the moving council members' discretion. [0:59:24, 0:59:44]: Do I hear a motion? The motion on the table, I mean on the floor is to table the item. We have we don't have a second yet. It wasn't we haven't called. Okay, we do have um second. Okay, we have a motion to table and a second by Mr. Alexander. Um would you like [0:59:44, 0:59:45]: to discuss that. [0:59:46, 0:59:52]: Well every hold on Mr Alexander, you go first. [0:59:52, 1:00:12]: I would like to say I think Ms. Gann is right. Uh we have not had any public discussion on what we're about to do. So in order for us to talk about implementing something that we're putting together on the fly, some more time should be allowed it for public input. It is should be put out to the public. So [1:00:12, 1:00:31]: so that they could talk about what we're going to do. Because what we're doing here is making up what we're going to do on the fly as during this discussion. I think the full whatever we propose doing should be presented to the public so they can have feedback on it instead of us making it up as we go along. [1:00:31, 1:00:51]: Okay, we have a motion. We have a second. We're having discussion. Any other discussion? Yes, Mayor. Ms. Uh Robinson. Um I think we discussed this the last time. That's why we're back with the option. So we've brought this to the public. So I just want everyone who's watching this to know that this isn't the first time. Um so I understand what [1:00:51, 1:01:11]: and agree with Councilwoman Gantt um when she's stating, you know, doing it in a different area to where we're discussing. Um but I just want to say to my colleagues, we've had time to discuss offline, but if we haven't done that, I I think we just need to move forward. Um I'm okay with two or four. [1:01:11, 1:01:24]: Because four actually gives us the option to discuss, as you stated, Councilwoman Gantt. So I'm with two or four, so I just need to know how I need to make this motion. [1:01:24, 1:01:44]: Okay. Any other comment? Mr. Ford. Thank you, Mayor. Um actually if maybe um if I understand this right, I think what Councilman Gans Councilwoman Gantt was indicating that we need more discussion among ourselves in reference to this process versus I mean engaging the public in this aspect um about the location for the work session and how we go about doing [1:01:44, 1:02:04]: I think that can come. We can still make a decision tonight, and I think that can still come. Now, on that note, I I I will tell you that I'm in favor of option two then, since my option one did not go. Okay. So depending on who wants to make that motion, okay Well, we first have um we have a motion on the floor to table to [1:02:04, 1:02:15]: table so we're gonna deal with that first and I want to find out there's any other discussion on that to table no other discussion all in favor to table [1:02:17, 1:02:18]: All opposed? [1:02:20, 1:02:40]: Okay, that motion motion two has failed. All right. Do we have a next motion? Yes, Mayor. All right. I would like to make a motion for option number two for all of our citizens to be able to be involved and engaged. Option number two is for [1:02:40, 1:02:48]: Your second Monday meeting to be held at six o'clock and your work session meeting to be held at your option three or four o'clock. [1:02:49, 1:03:09]: Okay, now you include the time. Okay. Okay. I'm okay with the four o'clock, allowing my other colleagues um an opportunity to attend as well the later, but it's still early for all of our citizens. Okay. All right, we have a motion on the floor to continue our regular counseling. [1:03:09, 1:03:17]: Council meeting at six o'clock, work session meeting at four. And do you want to include moving that to the conference rooms? [1:03:18, 1:03:36]: I'm fine with that, Mayor. We can move that too. Okay, so you want to restate the whole motion. So I make a motion to choose option two to where our um council meetings will be at 6 P.M. and the work session will be at 4 p.m. and we can use that in the conference room. [1:03:37, 1:03:57]: Okay. All right. Now you've heard that motion. Do we have any discussion? Yes. We need we Alexander. We need a second on it. I'll second that. I thought we had a second. No, we didn't. I'll second that. Go ahead, sir. Okay. Mr. Alexander. I have previously stated that I would not be able to make about fifty percent of these meetings, maybe more than that. [1:03:57, 1:04:17]: And which basically at this point this council has agreed is is about to agree to have a council serve the city of Stockbridge for four with four council members instead of the fifth because I will not be here in order to represent that. As a citizen of the Eagles Landing area, I find that peculiar. [1:04:16, 1:04:36]: But at the s at the same time, I would uh I hold this situation to be what it is in that we're making up a policy on the fly. We have not had any discussions in front of the public of moving the meeting to a different location than where it is. [1:04:36, 1:04:56]: so that it will not air on television. At this point, I think we have media members and we have staff members that actually tune into the work session. Moving the meeting to a alternate location will not allow that meeting to be transparent. It will not allow it to be broadcast. [1:04:56, 1:05:10]: And you citizens who are tuning in tonight, you're just gonna miss out because it's not going to be aired. There's not gonna be a recording. You would not see what is going down here. Mayor. [1:05:10, 1:05:30]: I will simply say to you, I have five minutes to speak uninterrupted. I apologize. Um on any one topic. Now at this time, I will simply say to you, this council talks about transparency all the time. What is transparent what about not airing the work session? [1:05:30, 1:05:50]: For the public to see. What is transparent about taking the meeting from an open session for everybody to see into a small room where the council gets to talk, but there's no official video for the public to see. The school board just moved ahead with moving their [1:05:50, 1:06:10]: Meeting to a later time. We're going in the opposite direction, 100% of what the school board did because citizens complained. The school board just decided to stream all of their meetings. We're going in the absolute opposite direction of that, removing the streaming of a meeting that we [1:06:10, 1:06:14]: already have in place. That's simply backwards. [1:06:14, 1:06:34]: One of the things that uh we should clearly understand here is that voting does take place at work session for emergency items. There will be votes cast where there will not be a video, there will not be a discussion for those of you tuning in, and there will not be a broadcast of that later on for you to see. [1:06:34, 1:06:45]: if this is moved to a different location. This is plain and simply wrong. I disagree with it. I'll vote I'll vote against it and I'll be absent for about 50% of these meetings. [1:06:46, 1:06:48]: Mayor Lee, can I can I just ask a question? [1:06:49, 1:06:51]: Just a moment. Just a moment. [1:06:51, 1:07:11]: Uh Miss Robinson, let's go with her and then we're going to the clerk. Um can I the question is we're talking about can we m have the meeting here? Can we make this table? Can we do it so we can still air it? Um I'm listening at all sides here. I mean if we wanting to have it like a work session [1:07:11, 1:07:25]: Could we not um put tables together and do it here? Okay, we we have done that in the past, but I will tell you that the city manager and I have met and we've gone over and looked at the Levi room and the capability of videoing [1:07:26, 1:07:28]: Is there. Okay. [1:07:29, 1:07:39]: That's thank you, because it's just communicating and and I think um that probably will answer a lot of my colleagues questions in reference to being transparent to the citizens. [1:07:39, 1:07:41]: Mr. Blount, I believe you have a comment. [1:07:42, 1:08:02]: Yes, um I'm also a uh resident of Eagles Landing uh and I do listen to the citizens. Um I could probably go through my neighborhood, especially my surrounding, and probably name thirty people right off the bat. Either I serve them by giving them something I've cooked or talk to them by just chewing the fat, if you will. And so I [1:08:02, 1:08:22]: I do listen to the citizens also. This is not on the fly. If it was on the fly, we wouldn't have it already printed. These have been in our books. It's already been previously discussed. And one of the things this council has to realize, there's a democracy here. Well, when there's a decision to be made, if a consensus has come forward, if you don't agree with that consensus, then you don't belittle. [1:08:22, 1:08:42]: your other colleagues, you just you just take that and you move on. I am a citizen of Eagle Landing, Eagles Landing. And so my decision is option two. And so and I am a working person also. You know, there's not there gonna be meetings n some of us are not gonna even be making even if you work or don't work. [1:08:42, 1:08:43]: You can't be at everything. [1:08:44, 1:08:57]: Your decision making can also st still be put in place. So I'm for option two and I just want to clarify that when we make a decision and have a consensus to do it, is not to sit here and belittle other council members because you don't agree with the decision. [1:08:58, 1:09:18]: Okay. Now Mr. Ford. Thank you, Mayor. I appreciate it. Uh Vanessa, uh I appreciate your comment that you had with uh you said you had with Randy Knighton there, because what I was going to state basically and I'm going to do this now, is that in the Levi conference room, the capability is there. You can actually broadcast that. Correct. [1:09:18, 1:09:38]: I remember that distinctly. So I know it can be broadcast. Correct. And I mean, and if it couldn't, we need to make it happen anyway. I mean real technology. Jeez. All right. So it can be done. Okay. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. Mayor Neil. Uh uh Ms. Gantt. Um, there's a couple of things. I c and I I'm sorry, colleagues, I usually wouldn't even do this, but I cringe [1:09:38, 1:09:58]: every time we acknowledge or or claim Eagle's Landing, period. It's not a city. We're in the city of Stockbridge. So neither here nor there. We are the city of Stockbridge. Particularly we haven't named a particular area either. Although they have made those proposals. That's the first thing I wanted to give [1:09:57, 1:10:17]: get up and get off. But what I wanted to also discuss was another reason I wasn't prepared to vote tonight, and I've asked us to table this and I'll probably abstain again once we do this vote. I'm not n against the six o'clock meetings, six o'clock in work sessions, six o'clock at the meeting. I was more so [1:10:17, 1:10:37]: concerned because I was voting for option one that read the location was to be here in this chamber for both meetings. Um and so I want to clarify that. Also I also wanted an opportunity and a time to really and I and I apologize, we have a lot of things on our agenda and a lot of we're working [1:10:37, 1:10:57]: on a budget so I've been studying that more than I have going back to the staff and asking staff and other people whether or not six o'clock is still okay. What what do they like? What do they want? What do they want to see? How's it affecting them? And what what process and what things can we change? [1:10:57, 1:11:17]: So I have some more concerns and me being forced to vote tonight, I think I would uh we're having a meeting next month in a couple weeks. I think once I get that I'm able to speak to our city manager, our city attorneys, our directors and and head of staff and departments that have to be here along with other citizens. [1:11:17, 1:11:35]: I could make a decision, but I'm not against by no means do I want to have to put in a bunch of leave dates for court hearings or something that I have to do in the middle of the day, but if I can get away with it I will. And so uh, you know, it's it's twofold for me. [1:11:36, 1:11:38]: Okay. Any other comments? [1:11:39, 1:11:59]: All right. No further comments. I'm going to ask our clerk to read the uh option that this motion is based on that would include moving to the conference room. Well there's actually I need to clarify that because option number two [1:11:59, 1:12:08]: is to have the meeting at six o'clock and the that's the Monday voting meeting, second Monday of the month, and the [1:12:10, 1:12:11]: Work session. [1:12:11, 1:12:15]: at three o'clock well four o'clock if that's the option. [1:12:16, 1:12:36]: And it is stated in the option as the leave by room. I think actually the option though that you are selecting is option number four because you get to choose your location. And if that is the case, then that is meeting on your second Monday at six o'clock and your work session meeting at four o'clock. [1:12:35, 1:12:38]: in the Levi Meeting Room. [1:12:38, 1:12:48]: Okay, we've all heard the motion. We've had a second. We've had a healthy discussion about it at this time. All in favor, please raise your hand. [1:12:50, 1:12:53]: The motion passed. Thank you so much. [1:12:55, 1:12:56]: We must stay. [1:12:57, 1:12:58]: All against [1:12:59, 1:13:00]: I abstain. [1:13:00, 1:13:02]: We have one abstaining, one against. [1:13:05, 1:13:09]: Thank you. Thank you. Okay, let's move on to item number nine. [1:13:10, 1:13:18]: This is council consideration to approve selection of an architect for the city presented by our procurement specialist Donald Riley. [1:13:30, 1:13:36]: Good evening, Madam Mayor and Council members. I have three items that I have before you. [1:13:36, 1:13:56]: And the first one is a request for approval of a recommended proposal for public works, RFP, ITBRFP 101817-DRR. This is on a task, it's a per task, per um project with tunnel, spangler, walsh and associate. [1:13:56, 1:14:09]: inside of Atlanta, Georgia, for the purchase of professional architectural and engineering services for the city. This is the agreement is for one year with two one-year renewals. [1:14:10, 1:14:16]: And it's being funded out of out of the uh professional services department. [1:14:17, 1:14:20]: professional services, uh budget. [1:14:20, 1:14:35]: and it's to be determined and this is for uh experienced project manager to provide facilities related planning design engineering assets and architectural services that's my request [1:14:37, 1:14:52]: We do you need to recognize that we're gonna go back. We're gonna go back. Okay, thank you. Um okay, we have heard the presentation about the architect for the city uh presented by our procurement specialist. Uh at this time do I hear a motion to accept. [1:14:53, 1:14:54]: Don't move. [1:14:54, 1:14:56]: Have a motion to hear a second. [1:14:57, 1:14:59]: We have a motion and a second. All in favor? [1:15:01, 1:15:21]: Okay. Is that a vote, Ms. Dylan? Okay. Thank you. Uh that was it. I want to go back. Um when I left here this afternoon we had decided we were taking uh taking item eight off the agenda and I did not realize that between the time I left and I came back eight changed to six or fourteen. [1:15:21, 1:15:25]: I'm not sure. So we need to go back and pick up knot number eight. [1:15:27, 1:15:36]: So that would be council consideration to approve a change order for vault installation for public works that would um [1:15:36, 1:15:44]: I'm gonna let uh Mr. Aaron explain it. It's a little complicated, but he can explain it to us real quick. Yes. [1:15:44, 1:16:04]: Madam Mayor and Council, I kind of came in when this project was already started, but this is for the installation of our AMI metering system. And at three locations, these are large meters and they go in vaults. So I don't know what the scope of work was prior to my arriving here, but these meters have to be put in vaults. [1:16:04, 1:16:18]: just like the residential meter have a water meter box. These are large meters that need to be put in vaults to shield them from weather and things of of that nature. So we're coming tonight asking for this change order to [1:16:19, 1:16:24]: add those three locations to this project so that we can go ahead and complete this AMI metering project. [1:16:25, 1:16:45]: And one of the things conversations I had with the city manager, when I first saw it, I thought it was high, so I had our engineer look at it and he said it was in line with projects that they've done before for meter installations of this size. So he said it was acceptable. So we're just coming forward so we can go ahead and [1:16:45, 1:16:53]: and finish this project. These are the last three meters to be installed. One is at the uh quarry on Rock Quarry. And [1:16:54, 1:16:55]: We are at the [1:16:56, 1:16:57]: Um [1:16:58, 1:16:59]: uh best value in [1:17:00, 1:17:03]: And also at five fifty five, Davis Road, so [1:17:04, 1:17:15]: We're just coming to ask you to approve this change order so we can finalize and finish this AMI metering project. Okay. You've heard the presentation. Do I hear a motion to accept item number eight? [1:17:16, 1:17:26]: So moved. So moved. Do I hear a second? Second. I have a motion and second. Is there discussion on the boxes or the vaults? Yeah. Mr. Ford first. [1:17:27, 1:17:35]: Once again, maybe I missed this. What funding uh aspect is this coming out of? This is coming out of SPLOSS funding for the AMI metering project. Okay, thank you. [1:17:36, 1:17:43]: Okay, Mr. Blount. Yeah, he answered my question. Okay. All right. Any other discussion or questions? If not, all in favor? [1:17:45, 1:17:47]: All right, thank you for your vote. [1:17:47, 1:17:57]: Thank you very much. Okay, thank you. Uh item number 10, council consideration to approve 2017 surplus list. That also will be presented by Mr. Riley. [1:17:58, 1:18:18]: Yes, thank you, Madam Mayor. I have a surplus list for 2017. It's all of our obsolete, unused, uh, it's basically equipment that we have either replaced or is broken or that we need to put on Gov Deals for sale. So this is just a request so that we can go to Gov Deals and put it out. [1:18:18, 1:18:19]: Yeah. [1:18:20, 1:18:24]: Okay. Thank you. Uh do I hear a motion? [1:18:25, 1:18:33]: Mayor Neil, I move that we approve the 2017 surplus list. We have a motion from Ms. Gantt. Do I hear a second? Second. [1:18:33, 1:18:36]: Have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion? [1:18:39, 1:18:41]: No discussion. All in favor. [1:18:42, 1:18:53]: Thank you. Item number 11, Council consideration to approve selection of vendor for wage and salary survey. That too will be presented by Mr. Riley. [1:18:53, 1:19:13]: Thank you, Madam Mayor. This is a request for approval of a recommended proposal for our Human Resources Department, RFP number 17, RFP 091417-DRR, in an amount not to exceed$15,500 with the Evergreen Solutions LLC outer tower. [1:19:13, 1:19:33]: Florida. This is for the purchase of wage and salary compensation study for the city for the city of Stockbridge. This agreement is for one year. And what they're going to do is just provide the city, allow the city to attract and retain qualified workers who will be paid equitable salaries. [1:19:33, 1:19:43]: to provide fair salaries for all the workers in the city. So as for our public works, all departments will be actually utilizing this service. [1:19:44, 1:19:50]: Okay, we uh hear this presentation. Do I hear a motion? So we have a motion, do I hear a second? [1:19:51, 1:20:11]: Second. Have a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion about the survey? Yes. Uh Mr Alexander. In terms of what we're doing for those tuned in and those uh uh here, uh we one of the things that I personally wanted to see was to see us endeavor to make sure that our staff was paid. [1:20:11, 1:20:31]: adequately as um the top professionals that they are and the only way that we can do that is to make sure that we're paying a competitive wage not just in Henry County but in Metro Atlanta. If you want to have the best staff work for you, you want top quality professionals working for you, then you need [1:20:31, 1:20:51]: to pay them uh what the um uh those salaries that are commensurate with what um those uh positions command. And I think we have embarked as a council upon making uh great hiring decisions uh in the past uh eighteen months and even before then uh with quality staff and our commitment [1:20:50, 1:21:10]: in the city manager in uh his uh budget that he has proposed in terms of decreasing overall salary overall size of the staff because I've heard soon numerous times that we've been working miracles with the size of the staff that we have. Well you know that requires some of our people to be under undue stress. [1:21:10, 1:21:18]: stress and hopefully an appropriate compensation package will help uh alleviate some of that along with expanding the staff. [1:21:19, 1:21:21]: Is there further discussion? [1:21:21, 1:21:26]: Comment, Mr. Ford. Thank you, Mayor. Uh this kind of makes me think that um [1:21:27, 1:21:46]: Once they do their their due diligence here and uh then come back to us and say, Okay, certain staff personnel are maybe not paid properly and then we will have to make some adjustments. So it makes me think that we'll have to go through some type of budget amendment sometime next year to compensate for that in that aspect, I'm assuming. [1:21:46, 1:21:51]: Yes, sir. I d and and to your point, I think what in consultation with HR Director and myself and [1:21:52, 1:22:10]: Uh other relevant staff, I think the plan would be this would probably take a good five to six months or so, at least this entire study, to be completed and then bring back those results. So that would position us or position you as as mayor and counsel going forward for the 2019 budget. [1:22:10, 1:22:15]: for that year in terms of any adjustments that might uh uh warrant being made. [1:22:16, 1:22:16]: Okay. [1:22:17, 1:22:19]: All right. That is helpful. Thank you. [1:22:19, 1:22:21]: Uh Miss Gantt, did you have a comment? [1:22:22, 1:22:30]: I did. Um, we asked for this a long time ago. Why is it just now getting done? Number one. And number two, [1:22:30, 1:22:31]: Um [1:22:33, 1:22:52]: Is it something that could easily be done by basically looking at surrounding areas with the same amount of population in size without us having to hire um another person to do another study of some sort? Or it I mean I I I have questions. [1:23:08, 1:23:28]: We've been doing that with certain positions, but it's better to go out and do a full wage and salary survey to see what the market bears. Most of all of your si major cities are doing it. Um I've talked to a number of cities on the north side, some of the cities on the south side, and m all of them are doing salary survey. [1:23:28, 1:23:48]: As we speak this year. McDonough did theirs a year ago. Henry County embarked on one this year. City of Douglasville is doing one. City of Tybee Island. All of the various cities that I spoke to at a conference just last week have embarked upon it because they're finding that we're not up to uh market trends or changes. [1:23:48, 1:24:08]: We're not paying what the market bears. And in order to attract people, you want to see what your surrounding cities, Metro Atlanta, and South even South of us are offering. So we don't lose people. We haven't done a salary survey here since 2013, and salaries have changed. [1:24:07, 1:24:27]: order for me to find out exactly what the market bears instead of keep reading stuff to see to come with a average. I'd rather go out there, find out exactly what other cities and counties are paying and come back to us to see if we're in alignment or what adjustments need to be made. Well no I I agree. I mean I think we all probably are [1:24:27, 1:24:41]: agree. The question is why is it just now getting done? This is November and I'm pretty sure we've been talking about this for a a long time. We have, but then the thing is we only have one procurement specialist and he has a number of [1:24:41, 1:24:50]: uh RFPs and everything that had to go out, so I had to wait my turn and to get my document out there. Gotcha. Thank you. Follow up please. [1:24:50, 1:25:10]: Okay. Uh Mr Alexander. My point being is I kind of agree with Councilwoman Gantt is that um it's been a while but at the same time I want our people paid now. I don't want them to have to wait until twenty nineteen. Uh we've been discussing these salaries and I don't know what we need to do, whether we need to set some [1:25:10, 1:25:30]: money aside when the survey is finished or well we need to plan on doing a budget amendment but having to wait another full calendar year to impact salaries when I think the general consensus is is we already know that our people are not being paid uh at the ways that they are. In all due respect we corrected that [1:25:30, 1:25:47]: when it deals um you know with our city manager. So we need to um make sure that we are doing that the appropriate thing for the entire staff. So I want to make sure that uh this discussion includes getting our people paid as quickly as possible. [1:25:48, 1:26:08]: Mr. Ford. Thank you. I think uh I appreciate the comments thus far. Definitely. I think that Randy hit it uh in the sense when I asked the question. Once this comes back to us, once you get it done, it'll come back to the council, you'll present it back to us and we'll have discussion at that point, and then we can decide at that point whether or not we're going to implement a plan right then and there, amend the budget and pay people more appropriate. [1:26:07, 1:26:14]: So we'll the the council will get a decision on that maybe five or six months from now, I would think. Thank you. [1:26:14, 1:26:34]: And Mayor Mayor. Uh Ms. Gantt. Well let me let me just clarify some things. I'm not saying that our employees are not adequately paid right now. I'm not saying any of that. What I'm saying is I w out of out of I wanna make sure that our emplo that we are [1:26:34, 1:26:54]: where we need to be. And I think we've all advocated we love our staff and our team and we've all advocated that we just want to make sure because every now and then you'll hear a staff member or someone say, Well they say they're not paid enough or they say you know, or whatever the case may be. And we want to nip that in the bud and do just as you stated that other cities have done it and it's long [1:26:54, 1:27:01]: overdue. But by no means am I saying that our staff is underpaid or anything of that nature. [1:27:03, 1:27:06]: Okay, we have another comment from Mr. Blount. [1:27:06, 1:27:11]: Um one of the things and I I concur with everything that's been said here because [1:27:11, 1:27:31]: You know, there's a there's an extended process when things are seem to be when things are trying to move forward here, but hopefully we can get this done. Uh my concern isn't that everyone is about being adequately paid. I'm I'm more concerned now the process of how we pay is done fairly across the board. [1:27:31, 1:27:51]: and that when those those those positions are funded by the city that it's done in a fair way across the board, that we have a a measuring stick that says this is why, this is why this is done, but it's done across the board because you said that some employees, I want to see all employees. [1:27:51, 1:28:11]: paid here using the same measuring scale that we use for any employee, whether it's from uh uh any level of employees come in. I want a scale put in it put in place that we're seeking now, that we've been saying we want to seek, that they're fairly done across the board. Um and how do you do that is what we're doing now. But I I'm I'm one [1:28:11, 1:28:18]: too to say I don't want to wait another year before we start to cover our employees to adequately pay them for what they're uh what those positions are worth. [1:28:18, 1:28:30]: Well you just need to wait until come back and see what the salary survey um states and what the dollars are going to be in order to implement a plan and then see if you have the monies to do it this year or you'll have to do it the following year. [1:28:31, 1:28:36]: Okay, we've had discussion. Any other discussion? I have one. If not. Mayor. [1:28:36, 1:28:56]: Uh okay and Ms. Robinson. Um thank you, Mayor. I commend um you guys for going outside of the local. Um and like you said, you attended class and is teaching all of us how to make our city better, um, even if it's not just on a local level, um nationally, because our um employees [1:28:56, 1:29:06]: deserve everything that can be offered. So I just want to say I commend each and every one of you to make sure that you're bringing that forth to us. So thank you. [1:29:07, 1:29:11]: Okay, does that conclude our discussion? All in favor? [1:29:12, 1:29:14]: Of item number motion. [1:29:14, 1:29:14]: Yeah, like [1:29:15, 1:29:25]: Mayor Neal, I'm I move that we approve the I made the motion on the second. We were concluding our discussion. All in favor? Item eleven. [1:29:26, 1:29:30]: Okay, there we go. We're good. Move on. Number 12. [1:29:31, 1:29:32]: No, wait a minute. [1:29:35, 1:29:36]: It's number twelve. [1:29:36, 1:29:56]: Yep. We went back and got the other one. Okay, number twelve, and this will be council consideration to approve proposed compensation for Stockbridge Planning Commission members fifty dollars per meeting, chairperson 75 per meeting. This will be presented by Camilla Moore, Community Development Director. Yes, good evening, Mary. [1:29:56, 1:30:04]: Council. The item before you brings your planning commission in compliance and consistent with the other planning commissions across the region. [1:30:05, 1:30:06]: question. [1:30:07, 1:30:27]: Okay. She's made her presentation. We have a question from Miss Robinson. Thank you, um, Ms. Moore and thank you, Mayor. Um, I know we're saying the Planning Commission, but we have other boards that I know that meet more frequently. Is that something that we can look at and you know and bring them all together or how is that being [1:30:27, 1:30:47]: Your this is different from any of your other boards. Your other boards you can have, this you must have. Okay. It is mandated your planning commission, which you call your zone advisory board, okay. It's statutorily required. Okay. You don't have to have a DDA. You don't have to have those other boards. This board is mandated by state law. That's why in every city [1:30:47, 1:30:53]: they are paid a stipend. Thank you. And that's why I wanted to make that known public. Thank you. [1:30:53, 1:30:56]: Okay, now do we have a a motion? [1:30:57, 1:31:04]: I'd like to make a motion to approve the proposed compensation for the Stockbridge Planning Commission members of$50 per meeting. [1:31:05, 1:31:14]: Seventy five dollars for the yeah. And that would include I'm sorry, and seventy-five dollars for the chairperson. I second. Okay, we have a motion. We have a second. Is there discussion among the council? [1:31:15, 1:31:18]: Mayor, quick question. Uh Mr. Blount. [1:31:18, 1:31:28]: Um, because th this is an area that I'm not familiar with them being paid. Um, you saying every uh other cities do pay for this board? [1:31:28, 1:31:36]: Right. In other words, there is a land development act that is created by the state of Georgia and across the United States. As a part of that act, [1:31:37, 1:31:57]: The governing body is supposed to have a planning board that reviews all zoning applications before you make the final decision. So therefore they are a commission and they're statutorily mandated to exist in compliance with the statute that deals with you being able to rezone a case. [1:31:57, 1:32:07]: Uh you had five and I recommend that you go to six, uh'cause you normally have one person to represent to correlate with the number of elected officials that you're having. [1:32:08, 1:32:11]: That's with the chair. So six five six with the chair? Correct. [1:32:14, 1:32:16]: And again they are a commission. [1:32:16, 1:32:18]: Is there further discussion? [1:32:19, 1:32:25]: If not, we've had a motion, we had a second and discussion. All in favor, please raise your hand. [1:32:26, 1:32:46]: Thank you for your vote. Item number 13, Council consideration to approve memorandum of agreement with the Environmental Protection Department. Soil Conservation presented by Camilla Moore, Community Development Director. Yes, ma'am. I'd like to make a clarification. Actually, what we're approving tonight is the model ordinance according to EBD. [1:32:46, 1:32:52]: The MOA will come later. So before you tonight is a model ordinance for EPD. [1:32:53, 1:32:58]: Okay, got it. Uh do I hear any motion to support Ms. Moore? [1:33:01, 1:33:06]: And we have a motion from Mr. Ford. Yeah, I'd like for the the council to to uh [1:33:07, 1:33:08]: Prove the um [1:33:09, 1:33:16]: actual model EPD uh for which is environmental protection department soil conservation [1:33:16, 1:33:17]: Second. [1:33:17, 1:33:20]: We have a motion. We have a second. Is there discussion? [1:33:21, 1:33:22]: So you're removing it I'm sorry I'm sorry, Mayor. [1:33:24, 1:33:36]: Uh go ahead Mr. Bond. But you say you're removing the MOA part? But the MOA is not ready yet. EPD says we have to do this part first before we can send them the MOA. So tonight's adoption of the model ordinance. Okay. [1:33:36, 1:33:43]: Okay. We have uh had the discussion. Any further questions or discussion? If not, all in favor? [1:33:44, 1:34:04]: All right, thank you for your vote. Now we are moving along to item remember we took fourteen off and for discussion informational purposes only, Reeves Creek Trail, additional parking. Pr this um will be presented by Deshus Aaron, Public Works Director. This will be a non voting [1:34:04, 1:34:05]: Yeah. [1:34:05, 1:34:05]: Item. [1:34:09, 1:34:29]: Uh good evening, Madam Mayor and Council. Um the expansion of the parking lot at Reed's Creek Trail, that was a project that was in a development phase when I first got here and we've got some room there that would create between ten and fifteen additional parking spaces. So we want to start planning for that project. We'll go ahead and include [1:34:29, 1:34:49]: those parking spaces so we can finalize we've had the rubberized surface installed so we can go ahead and do the landscaping and everything and complete that project. So we just want to give you some information on that will be coming before you asking for approval to move forward with expanding the parking lot at Reed's Creek Trail because we get a lot of usage there. [1:34:49, 1:34:56]: I've noticed cars parked on the side of flipping road, people trying to get access to it. So we just want to add those additional spaces. [1:34:58, 1:35:18]: Uh thank you. And before you leave the podium, uh I don't you had a question. Okay. Let's go to um Mr. Ford for a question. Yeah, appreciate it. Two things. One is that uh cost you have any idea what the cost would be and where will money come from? Money would come from splots and where and depending on the number of spaces [1:35:17, 1:35:24]: would depend on uh decide the price, but we're estimating I guess the engineers looked at it between fifty and seventy-five thousand. [1:35:25, 1:35:26]: Course yeah. [1:35:26, 1:35:27]: All right, thank you. [1:35:27, 1:35:47]: Okay. Any other questions before we move on? Yes. You have a question, Mr. Alexander. Yes, in terms of uh what I see uh when I go to McDonough and I look at the Alexander Park entrance on Jonesboro Road where they're walking, it's beautiful. It's maintained at a substantial level all the time. [1:35:47, 1:36:07]: Does this include beautification and sustained beautification for the trail? Because the trail is one of the greatest assets that we have and uh the usage continues to skyrocket as we're uh at looking to add additional parking. But my concern has been just, you know, I see us there's an irrigation system. [1:36:07, 1:36:17]: system and all, but is there does this include some uh types of uh beautification to go with it? Yes sir. We're gonna do some landscaping and s and install an irrigation system. [1:36:18, 1:36:21]: from to maintain that landscaping that's put in in place. [1:36:22, 1:36:42]: As a follow-up on this, instead of having I think who maintains it now, the city crew, could this probably property be added to the contractor list versus having the city staff do it to maintain it at the same level where we kind of have city hall at? Is that possible? Well uh Mr. Riley and I, we've been having some discussions [1:36:42, 1:36:58]: we're gonna have an RFP coming out for our landscaping so that could be an area we add to that as well. So but there are several locations that we're gonna add to this new RFP that we'll have going out for landscaping around the city and it and its facilities. Thank you. [1:37:00, 1:37:05]: Okay. Any other questions on item number 15? Yes, Mayor. Oh, we have one, Mr. Blount. [1:37:06, 1:37:10]: Where's actually the parking is gonna be? You took it over on uh flipping? [1:37:10, 1:37:25]: You know at the Reeds Creek Trail at Trailhead, you've got that space between the where the parking lot ends and where the exercise equipment is. There's that bearing space right there. So how many more spaces, parking spaces you think we can get in? Uh we'd get between ten and fifteen spaces right there. [1:37:26, 1:37:27]: Oh okay. [1:37:28, 1:37:38]: Okay, any other questions on 15? Otherwise we're moving on to item 16 for discussion and informational purpose, municipal court renovation update. [1:37:38, 1:37:58]: Uh yes, Madam Mayor. We're uh I met with the city manager earlier to discuss how we start the remediation of the uh municipal court building. So we've we've got a uh commitment or a quote from a a firm that we'll prepare the scope of work of what needs to be done at the municipal court building. [1:37:58, 1:38:18]: so that we can go back into that building. So we'll be coming back before you when we get the scope prepared and we'll be developing an RFP so we can go ahead and and finalize that project. It'll also give us time to ensure that the repairs are completed. So it's not like it we're gonna come back next month and say we [1:38:18, 1:38:36]: ready to move forward. We're just gonna have the scope of work, asking you to approve the scope of work so that we can move forward. So hopefully by the first first or second month of of 2018 we'll move forward with remediating that facility over there so we can reuse, get back in and start using those spaces. [1:38:38, 1:38:42]: Okay, um any questions or discussion on item sixteen? [1:38:44, 1:38:51]: Okay, if n if we have none. Um at this time we're gonna turn to our city manager to ask if he has any comments he'd like to make. [1:38:52, 1:39:10]: I do not at this time, other than uh we certainly uh invite um the public to um access our website for information events and activities upcoming. And uh as always we are are open to uh citizens uh who need to access their staff for information or questions. [1:39:11, 1:39:13]: Thank you. At this time, Madam Clerk. [1:39:13, 1:39:33]: Yes, Mayor. I just wanted to let everyone know about um the Field the Bus campaign that the city is participating in and the bus um is visiting various locations throughout the county and will be here at City Hall on Monday, December fourth from eleven A. M. to two P. M. where you can actually bring your [1:39:33, 1:39:37]: your unwrapped toy and load it onto the bus. [1:39:38, 1:39:44]: All right, thank you. Uh any comments? We'll start with Mr. Alexander that you'd like to make. [1:39:44, 1:40:04]: Yes, uh first of all I'd start like to start out by saying uh issuing my condolences uh to the lives lost uh in the city of Hampton. Uh tragically there was lives lost in uh internet transaction or sales transaction uh where there was some uh merchandise or some shoes that were attempted [1:40:04, 1:40:24]: To be sold. I just want to caution our citizens now. Nothing is worth risking your life over. And here in the city of Stockbridge, we have a safe internet site at the North Precinct, 4545, North Henry Boulevard, where you can conduct your business. [1:40:24, 1:40:44]: safely uh in front of uh the police department. It is monitored twenty four hours a day for any citizens who want to use it. It's absolutely free. And in this time of uh what we are seeing in uh the area, you do not want to be out in the middle of nowhere meeting somebody. [1:40:44, 1:41:04]: To conduct a transaction and lose your life when there's a safe place already designated for that right here in the city of Stockbridge. I would like to further say, you know, as we celebrated, I was attended the Veterans Day meeting today. I was I was, you know. [1:41:04, 1:41:24]: know, very uh touched and overwhelmed about the effort and everything that the veterans put in. The committee really, really uh is meticulous about the work that they that they do and we want to do everything that we can to support them uh in making the parade uh the best that it possibly can be. Uh [1:41:24, 1:41:44]: They bring so much to the table to our community, to America, that we want to do everything possible in order to uh celebrate our veterans and to honor them appropriately uh at at all times. I further thank uh I I I want to thank the staff for doing the great job that they do. [1:41:44, 1:42:04]: really want to thank them as I drove down and see the Christmas door decorations that we have embarked upon on the city. I really love it. We've added uh some touches to that. It really brings something to the city when you drive down there through the uh through it. And we're looking at expanding that. Um [1:42:04, 1:42:22]: uh citywide we're in the process of doing that to include absolutely everybody and that's something that we want to see and having all areas of the city be included is something that we're we're diligently working on uh as a co council and as a staff of the city. And uh I hope everyone had a great holiday. [1:42:25, 1:42:26]: Uh thank you. Mr. Blount? [1:42:27, 1:42:40]: I just want to thank everybody for their support, uh making uh Noelle and November uh a successful event, um and actually supporting uh Susan Crumbley with the uh connecting Henry and uh making the child smile on Christmas. [1:42:41, 1:43:01]: Thank you. Um I'm gonna call on Mr. Ford and he is going to make an introduction for us um also during his comments. Thank you, Mayor. And I'll I'll do this now. I think we've in a sense we may have already done this, but anyway, we recently the the council has recently hired our new assistant to the mayor and council, Miss Jackson. Could you please stand stand up number? [1:43:01, 1:43:04]: Okay. I think you've got what we want. Okay. [1:43:05, 1:43:25]: Good good to see you. Welcome, welcome aboard. Okay. On that note, um thank you for citizens for being engaged with us, continue to do so as we move the city forward. Uh hopefully you had a great uh Thanksgiving uh holiday with your family and friends, and you went out and did your shopping for Black Friday and Cyber Monday and continue to have a wonderful holiday season. All right, and uh give [1:43:25, 1:43:29]: God the glory and because he's going to lead us through all this. Okay? God bless you all. Thank you. [1:43:31, 1:43:31]: Miss Gantt. [1:43:32, 1:43:52]: Thank you all for coming and I want to give an as special thanks to our staff, our team here at City Hall. You guys have been working extra hard for on so several projects for us um for things that need to be completed um this year, uh for next year, early next year. [1:43:52, 1:44:10]: holiday and her staff has went above and beyond as well as Miss Moore. Um I I can't thank you guys enough for the work. And and Shopping Small Saturday, it was a success and I want to thank Main Street for all that they've done to make that happen. [1:44:11, 1:44:31]: And and I I ask our citizens to not just go that Saturday but continue to um you know, shop at these small businesses. Those are the main contributors to our community. They they actually give back your putting your money back right here in your community. So continue to do that. Um we have some great new stores and and great [1:44:31, 1:44:45]: businesses right here in Stockbridge. And happy holidays. Um have a safe holiday season. I look forward to our Christmas gala and events that we have coming up. And um uh feel free to reach out to me anytime. [1:44:46, 1:45:06]: Ms. Robinson. Thank you, Mayor. Just want to thank staff again for all the hard work that you do and hopefully with our change in our schedule that that will be more fitting for you as well during the workday. Also for our youth council. Our youth council for those that don't know all the details, we took our youth council to the national [1:45:06, 1:45:26]: League of Cities in Charlotte, North Carolina. This is the first time ever. A lot of our youth are coming from different schools throughout our city, and this is a program that's no none other than what is done here in Henry County. Stockbridge has actually stepped out. We joined other cities. [1:45:26, 1:45:46]: cities such as Dublin, Makin Bib, a lot of other cities we took, they actually had 15 to 18 students. We only were able to take three this year out of our eight. But I will say even with that, I just want everyone to know that this is an opportunity for our young people. [1:45:46, 1:46:06]: This is a city sponsored youth council, so we're not trying to have them on a local level. We're trying to show them government on a national level so that way they can come back and govern our community as an adult, as adults when they do come back. So I encourage everyone if you can [1:46:06, 1:46:26]: Get involved, get involved with our young people because with the city of Stockbridge, we're trying to take it to another level and we're going to be able to post pictures showing the different programs that they did while they were there. Also, um I do agree and I'm so glad that we have staff that are in place to where we're gonna be able to partner with our business. [1:46:26, 1:46:46]: because as stated there's opportunity there to where they'll be wanting to support what this city has going on and we don't have to actually spend taxpayers money. So um with the different staff that are coming on that'll be an opportunity for us. So I just know with our community development director [1:46:45, 1:47:05]: with our new businesses association. That is something that our citizens will be able to see that this is a new opportunity and it's a new day here in the city of Stockbridge. And to our city attorney, thank you so very much for volunteering your time, making sure that um myself and yourself and this um our youth council [1:47:05, 1:47:25]: arrive safely there and back and also to my um colleagues thank you for getting these young people the opportunity because this again was a first time for the city of Stockbridge. A lot of people were shocked. They were and they were actually shocked and they were very amazed at the young people that we had there. So I want to again [1:47:25, 1:47:45]: and say thank you. They're gonna be come um attending a meeting. They're gonna be able to give you a summary of that trip so that way you all will have that and to see what they did bring back um to be able to give yourself and our citizens um as they're watching as well. So again we have a lot of opportunities. [1:47:45, 1:48:05]: Um and I'm looking forward to our businesses partnering so that way we can move even further um with our young people because the way they have fifteen to eighteen, I want to expand our numbers as well so that way we'll have representation. Also just want to add in there the youth council, they're having to pay back funds um to this [1:48:05, 1:48:25]: So they have a fundraiser that they have going on. So I'm encouraging any of our citizens, please, they're selling popcorn right now at this time. So if you see any of the Stockbridge Youth Council, please offer your support because they are trying to do fundraisers so they way they [1:48:25, 1:48:32]: they can pay some of that money back to the city of Stockbridge. Again, thank you all so very much and happy holidays. [1:48:33, 1:48:41]: Thank you, Ms. Robinson. At this time we will be adjourning to executive session, so I need a motion to that effect. [1:48:45, 1:48:50]: And now I'll move that we go into executive session for personnel, real estate and litigation. [1:48:51, 1:49:00]: Okay, and I would like to ask I believe we have um someone from the Jody Cup project, that's gonna be item number one, if we could take that up first so they can [1:49:01, 1:49:02]: Depart. [1:49:03, 1:49:08]: Second. We have a motion and a second to that effect. Any discussion? [1:49:10, 1:49:12]: No discussion. All in favor? [1:49:13, 1:49:19]: Thank you so much. And for those of you if you'd like to wait until executive session is over. [1:49:20, 1:49:21]: You are welcome to wait. [1:49:26, 1:49:27]: Oh. [1:49:28, 1:49:32]: Sir, any any word from the heavens thate visit that we went on? [1:49:35, 1:49:36]: Uh huh. [1:49:37, 1:49:50]: Okay, you can post it from the picture and good. [1:49:55, 1:50:00]: Yeah, yeah, okay. [1:50:01, 1:50:05]: [6608.4, 6620.0]: Oh, why I want to do questions. [1:50:25, 1:50:37]: What was it? I don't know. That's what you know. [1:50:42, 1:51:00]: I do all of that. [1:51:00, 1:51:20]: No, thank you. I should I should have said that message, but it was my mind slipping on some fancy. Okay, that's that's the final [1:51:20, 1:51:25]: [6689.2, 6690.0]: That's one. [1:51:35, 1:51:55]: [6730.0, 6740.0]: Maybe go to white industry. That's an old one. [1:52:35, 1:52:36]: No. [1:52:37, 1:52:57]: [6777.6, 6778.0]: Okay. [1:52:59, 1:53:10]: [6830.0, 6845.0]: [1:54:10, 1:54:30]: [6871.3, 6890.0]: That's all that's in the world. [1:54:55, 1:55:15]: But I do want to spend time on painting. But let's put a lot of people and that was that you want to keep that. [1:55:15, 1:55:35]: [6935.5, 6955.5]: [1:55:55, 1:56:15]: Uh uh seven region that can imagine. We got one. [1:56:15, 1:56:35]: Yeah, look at the first thing. [1:56:40, 1:56:50]: Don't talk about painting, don't talk about anything else. [1:56:50, 1:57:10]: Yeah, but I don't think why do you make it on the beer? [1:57:10, 1:57:30]: So yes, they have to change the power. Yeah, well she's not. [1:57:29, 1:57:49]: [7069.8, 7080.0]: They are almost there. [1:58:07, 1:58:15]: Okay, we should have been out of the week. [1:58:15, 1:58:35]: Yeah, yeah, so maybe opening a disgrace of clothes or like that. So that would be a good idea. [1:58:35, 1:58:40]: And that based on how much people have to do for that. [1:58:40, 1:59:00]: So we have a place to get rid of the [1:59:00, 1:59:20]: But it wasn't. I would have said you're only getting on the car. But they don't be that way or something. [1:59:19, 1:59:39]: [7179.9, 7190.0]: The rift I want to come all the way to basically far. [1:59:50, 2:00:10]: Yeah. [2:00:10, 2:00:24]: So the left side is right side is not the code is a lot of people have some location. [2:00:25, 2:00:34]: Do we still call it a fashion? [2:00:35, 2:00:50]: I would have put that framework on that. So then that's the ideal place that I'm going to do. [2:00:50, 2:01:02]: We want to trade out and then work. That way it's what you have to know. And if you watch that one do it, you've got to take the train presentation. [2:01:05, 2:01:09]: [7271.3, 7285.3]: I just got them all over the plane. And you tear all the diagnosis and put extra painting in there. [2:01:26, 2:01:35]: [7300.0, 7300.7]: Right. [2:01:42, 2:01:47]: [7307.5, 7327.5]: [2:02:07, 2:02:27]: I can't call it another number on the sitting down for that. [2:02:27, 2:02:44]: That's the heart of it's been recognized. That's like trying to get an argument trying to break well. [2:02:50, 2:02:55]: And now he's like. [2:02:55, 2:03:15]: And then I don't know. [2:03:15, 2:03:25]: Yeah, we're talking about it. And everybody was I was like, [2:03:28, 2:03:30]: Wait, that's [2:03:35, 2:03:46]: I don't know what's up with that. [2:03:47, 2:03:53]: I think it was a bunch of that. [2:03:54, 2:04:13]: Well I think I'm just let me know about that. [2:04:14, 2:04:34]: Water comes from the pipe stuff down out of uh actually wood. That's pretty quite water comes in the door. Then it's spread that's okay. [2:04:34, 2:04:35]: Okay. [2:04:41, 2:04:41]: Yeah, I don't know. [2:04:45, 2:04:53]: [7494.7, 7497.7]: That would be managed for it. [2:05:00, 2:05:15]: But if the big changes [2:05:17, 2:05:18]: That's the one. [2:05:20, 2:05:34]: Yeah, we're not so used to calling it and we have the thing that we're mainly. [2:05:55, 2:06:00]: is the cultural house and flying by some. [2:06:03, 2:06:04]: Yeah, yeah. [2:06:59, 2:07:10]: [7650.0, 7652.0]: Uh [2:07:52, 2:07:55]: Well that's me. [2:08:21, 2:08:24]: Oh, really white. [2:08:29, 2:08:30]: So that's all right. [2:08:35, 2:08:36]: Yeah. [2:08:40, 2:08:53]: And I hope you have to be able to do I'm that way now. [2:08:56, 2:09:00]: And other things. [2:09:01, 2:09:05]: But the important part is not actually used by those are possible. [2:09:15, 2:09:17]: Exactly all the people. [2:09:19, 2:09:20]: So [2:09:47, 2:10:02]: Okay, let's see if we just don't need it. Oh, we can do the power to give it. [2:10:04, 2:10:13]: Yeah. [2:10:15, 2:10:17]: [7918.3, 7919.4]: Oh yeah. [2:12:25, 2:12:29]: Well you can take it up and [2:15:35, 2:15:35]: Mm-hmm. [2:15:45, 2:15:45]: Mm-hmm. [2:17:00, 2:17:02]: But I understand. [2:17:09, 2:17:10]: Yeah. [2:17:23, 2:17:30]: They can't do the training visual students volunteering. [2:18:03, 2:18:06]: You see how they are. [2:20:40, 2:20:42]: All sound. [2:21:15, 2:21:19]: Yeah, so. [2:21:58, 2:22:01]: That's what I want more. [2:25:05, 2:25:06]: So [2:25:11, 2:25:13]: No. [2:25:15, 2:25:16]: [8718.3, 8719.6]: [2:34:57, 2:34:58]: Yeah, I'm sorry. [2:35:33, 2:35:37]: And then [2:35:42, 2:35:43]: I think. [2:36:11, 2:36:16]: [9378.8, 9380.0]: I wish there would be no. [2:36:23, 2:36:27]: Oh absolutely. [2:36:30, 2:36:33]: And the problem is a little bit too. [2:39:56, 2:39:58]: If I can get more shared in our [2:40:05, 2:40:07]: Good to see you. [2:52:52, 2:52:54]: Very important. [2:56:06, 2:56:10]: Is it just sound just we're ha I called in the phone with the case anyone? [2:56:13, 2:56:17]: Um yeah, I just have car no I'm sorry. [2:56:47, 2:56:48]: I wanted it to be called. [2:56:52, 2:57:00]: And all you have to do is. [2:57:47, 2:57:52]: I don't know what she thinks. [2:58:14, 2:58:15]: Yeah. [3:36:32, 3:36:36]: Okay, don't you know? [3:37:40, 3:37:43]: Blood and light. Blood and light. [4:01:51, 4:01:56]: Oh, don't do it all right, brother. We just work our way through. [4:01:58, 4:02:02]: So a half in town, a little more, it should be worthwhile, it should be worthwhile. [4:11:52, 4:11:53]: Yeah, I wanna do that first. [4:11:56, 4:11:59]: Uh uh okay. [4:12:02, 4:12:03]: T I die up. [4:12:03, 4:12:04]: Yeah, yeah. [4:12:06, 4:12:10]: [15132.0, 15133.1]: Yeah, yeah. [4:12:13, 4:12:17]: Oh sorry. [4:12:23, 4:12:25]: Yeah, yeah. [4:13:15, 4:13:20]: Well how they want to do it as well. [4:13:22, 4:13:30]: Well yeah, I'll I'll have to come in and talk with you. Talk with you about that and don't know where I'm saying. [4:14:00, 4:14:04]: Wait one moment, Mayor. [4:14:13, 4:14:25]: Returning from executive session, I need a motion to end the executive session. Mayor, I'll make a motion to end executive session. I have a motion for Ms. Robinson. Do I hear a second? Second. [4:14:26, 4:14:29]: Okay, we have a second from Ms. Gantt. [4:14:29, 4:14:32]: Uh to end the executive session, do we have any discussion? [4:14:33, 4:14:35]: No discussion. All in favor. [4:14:37, 4:14:47]: At this time I need a motion to reconvene the meeting of the evening. Mayor, I make a motion to reconvene the meeting. I have a motion to reconvene. Do I hear a second? [4:14:47, 4:14:48]: A second. [4:14:48, 4:14:53]: Have a second from Ms. Gantt at this time. Is there any discussion? [4:14:54, 4:14:56]: No discussion. [4:14:56, 4:15:01]: Uh all in favor of um ending I mean of reconvening the meeting. [4:15:01, 4:15:02]: Thank you. [4:15:03, 4:15:13]: Since there was nothing in executive session that we need to vote on at this time, I need a motion to end the evening meeting. Mayor make a motion to end the evening's meeting. [4:15:13, 4:15:21]: We have a motion to end the meeting. Do I hear a second? A second. We have a second. Uh I'll uh do we have any discussion? [4:15:22, 4:15:28]: No discussion. All in favor of ending the evening meeting. Thank you so much. [4:15:28, 4:15:33]: Tonight. Oh listen, you have to sit down. [4:15:35, 4:15:36]: So that's the young hands. [4:15:37, 4:15:46]: Yes, I think uh I left you all a note there's some information in there, some reports at the beginning of your book that you may want to review before you turn your [4:15:46, 4:15:48]: Look back into it. [4:15:49, 4:15:53]: Just take a few days to just look at it. I appreciate it.

--- title: November 13 2017 City Council Meeting date: 2017-11-13 source: 2017-11-13_November_13_2017_City_Council_Meeting.wav --- [0:00:01, 0:00:15]: [ 15.4, 28.4]: Everybody take one and show your bag, but you got the commission. Yeah, three roles and they fill in there. [0:00:29, 0:00:30]: Yeah. [0:00:45, 0:01:01]: The extra time. [0:01:02, 0:01:04]: Don't go past the window. [0:01:05, 0:01:15]: I guess I think it was not. [0:01:20, 0:01:21]: Yeah. [0:01:23, 0:01:26]: She can't see her, she can't see you. [0:01:26, 0:01:46]: On three. One, two, three. One more. On three. One, two, three. [0:01:46, 0:01:50]: [127.4, 145.0]: [0:02:35, 0:02:51]: Hey Sonia? Sonia and Sonia. [0:02:52, 0:03:07]: [188.5, 190.0]: No, no. [0:03:30, 0:03:31]: Love your mind. [0:03:34, 0:03:45]: [226.0, 234.4]: Well the call on the [0:04:20, 0:04:36]: Oh they can't tell me today. That's me, don't love it. [0:04:45, 0:05:05]: Small business participants, we're going down. Do I have the capability? First floor, one floor down. [0:05:05, 0:05:21]: No, but um I might be board it to you. I have copies. I have enough copies of them. I have copies here too. Which are just fine. [0:05:23, 0:05:43]: One is a response to the staff recommendations. This is enough for everybody. This is eight or nine. I think it's nine. What about this? I think it's ten. Each? [0:05:43, 0:05:58]: But hand them out when we come up. Now we're waiting till we get to my item and then give them to the clerk. That's what I needed to know. Thank you for helping. [0:05:59, 0:06:19]: You know I don't want to be here. I hope that's a good one. Hey. I'm good. It's gotta be good. I have an original of this one. Does it does my [0:06:19, 0:06:31]: Need to separate out the original because it's signed. That's signed. It's signed. Okay, so we'll we'll move down with the fler. Okay. [0:06:32, 0:06:50]: And then you say you have to put that together so it can do another to um at one with each butcher. Yeah, and that's like what order you want to. So we can't do the data. [0:06:51, 0:06:55]: I don't have stuff here, but we can do that with it. [0:07:05, 0:07:08]: I don't know how to do this now. [0:07:11, 0:07:12]: How are you doing? [0:07:14, 0:07:30]: I couldn't do a suit. I'm sorry, I had to wear it all day. I couldn't do it. Am I getting I get marks off for not having marks? Oh, oh [0:07:31, 0:07:51]: Yeah, we should be honest. So that's right. Oh, that's the yeah, people. They don't they're here for for the public here. No. [0:07:51, 0:07:55]: Yeah, kind of sound. [0:07:58, 0:08:00]: Well this work, Vanessa. [0:08:01, 0:08:21]: If I wanted to put do they usually put the budget up on the screen? Um, you can. And then but you gon y'all gonna click through and go through it? I'm just gonna do the front page. Okay. I mean I don't have to. What's the normal protocol? Well yeah, I would just have it on here too. Just the front page is what I want. Okay, go ahead. Uh where is it? Here [0:08:21, 0:08:27]: This one on that side. Here? [0:08:30, 0:08:33]: Okay, so we're gonna crack the suit. [0:08:36, 0:08:56]: Eight. I don't have another proposed budget. That's the one. That's got the full deal on there, but I just I really want to deal with it that one page really. Go back here and do a turn out better. Send to the desk. [0:08:56, 0:09:10]: top yeah and that way you can just open it come there you got this okay you can take your fight I'll enlarge it okay [0:09:10, 0:09:30]: Pretty much in the same way. We have one on the back. We have two. [0:09:30, 0:09:35]: Oh that is the right care when you get this. [0:09:41, 0:09:44]: [586.4, 590.1]: But those over here on the E and so we're not. [0:09:50, 0:09:52]: [594.1, 595.0]: Yeah, yeah. [0:09:58, 0:10:04]: A Randy? Look at a chair. I do, I've seen it the whole time. [0:10:06, 0:10:15]: And some water. Well I don't know if they have I don't know if you have the that's Mr. Blounts. Do you want to keep that back to the slide? [0:10:16, 0:10:17]: Do I need to go back to the slideshow? [0:10:20, 0:10:26]: Do I need to go back to the slideshow? Oh no, I mean the for the Oh yes. Uh let's see. [0:10:29, 0:10:33]: Let's just make sure that's the most recent one. We updated it. [0:10:35, 0:10:37]: No what where's Mastar? [0:10:38, 0:10:39]: What kind of stuff? [0:10:41, 0:10:44]: What kind of stuff? Your phone? [0:10:45, 0:11:05]: Well I want to follow up. [0:11:05, 0:11:25]: [687.3, 695.1]: [0:11:45, 0:11:55]: Now we still have a name button. [0:11:57, 0:12:04]: Okay, how are you doing? Go get a chair. Go go in that back Yeah, you're gonna have to get up one at chair, unfortunately, yeah. [0:12:05, 0:12:20]: I thought we had enough of those. Because it used to be like the extra It used to be but you know what? Oh, that's from ten. That's Camilla has that chair. So we need to order Camilla a black chair. [0:12:20, 0:12:25]: What's her name here? Yeah. Jocinda, Rosinda, Jose Linda. [0:12:25, 0:12:33]: Sure. Because this one of the new black ones. [0:12:43, 0:12:44]: Yeah, [0:12:45, 0:12:47]: And crunch. [0:12:48, 0:12:53]: Oh, okay. But not for anything else? [0:13:16, 0:13:17]: So [0:13:45, 0:13:55]: our invitation I would like to directly by each of two of our council people have reasonable election. [0:14:20, 0:14:40]: It is a good idea, please, to remember the decorum of the chamber. So please if you would do that. At this time, we're going to call on Pastor Robert Willey. If he will come forth from Trinity Lakeside Church and have our invocation. And I would like to remind all of you, we'll stand for the invocation. [0:14:40, 0:14:45]: and then we will remain standing for the pledge to the U.S. flag. [0:14:45, 0:14:46]: Pastor Willie. [0:14:48, 0:14:50]: Let us pray. [0:14:50, 0:14:54]: Heavenly Father, as we come before your throne in Jesus' name. [0:14:54, 0:15:07]: We thank you for the blessings that you bestow on us, your children. And we thank you for the governments that you've put into place across the land. We thank you, Father, for those elected officials that serve so well. [0:15:08, 0:15:12]: We thank you for the community that's represented here tonight also. [0:15:12, 0:15:25]: And Father, we give you all the praise and all the glory for all the accomplishments and the leadership and the direction of this fine city of Stockbridge. This day, Father, we ask that you [0:15:25, 0:15:36]: Bless this agenda that we have. Father, it's a very busy agenda. We ask that those that do the presentation and the organization and administration of this agenda [0:15:37, 0:15:51]: Lead, guide, and direct, and those involved in discussions speak with love and understanding and wisdom. Father, we thank you for all that you do for us. In Jesus' name and all God's children said. Amen. [0:15:52, 0:15:54]: Please join us for the pledge. [0:15:55, 0:16:08]: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:16:09, 0:16:10]: Thank you. [0:16:13, 0:16:21]: At this time we're gonna ask our clerk if she will, uh Vanessa Holliday, for our roll call. Councilman Alexander. [0:16:21, 0:16:32]: Present. Councilman Blount. Mayor Neal. Present. Mayor Pro Tam Ford. Present. Councilwoman Gantt. Present. Councilwoman Robinson. Present. Mayor Neal, you have a quorum. [0:16:33, 0:16:37]: Thank you. At this time I need a motion to adopt the agenda. [0:16:40, 0:16:46]: We have no motion. I think we do have some changes to the agenda, so I'll ask to address those first. [0:16:46, 0:16:47]: Mayor Nell. [0:16:48, 0:16:53]: I ask that we um table the discussion 13, 14, and 15. [0:16:55, 0:16:57]: I make a I would like to make a motion that we [0:16:58, 0:17:00]: And item number two. [0:17:01, 0:17:13]: Okay, we have a discussion to um table thirteen, discussion items thirteen, fourteen, and fifteen, and then go back to the two. Item number two. Sorry. Item number two. [0:17:13, 0:17:17]: The motion is to table item number two, thirteen, fourteen, and fifteen. [0:17:18, 0:17:21]: Okay, and th is that item number two under old business. [0:17:22, 0:17:35]: Um yes. Yes. Okay. All right. We've heard that motion. Uh do uh I hear a second. All right, we have a motion and a second to adopt the agenda with those four changes. Is that correct? [0:17:40, 0:17:45]: uh guys uh the first is the uh station [0:17:45, 0:17:50]: Um all business for the man I have system. [0:17:53, 0:17:55]: Okay, do I hear a motion? [0:18:00, 0:18:04]: So the second one is uh more than the council. [0:18:06, 0:18:08]: Okay. Do I hear a motion for both of those? [0:18:09, 0:18:10]: I second. [0:18:11, 0:18:18]: Down here I've got to have a motion first. Oh, I make a motion to amend the agenda to add the resolution to approve the health awareness. [0:18:19, 0:18:22]: We already have a motion on the floor by Councilwoman Gantt. [0:18:23, 0:18:26]: If you want to include that Councilwoman Gann in your motion. [0:18:26, 0:18:32]: To do what? If you want to include what attorney Williams has d described in your motion. [0:18:33, 0:18:41]: Okay. Um uh yes. I'd like to mend my m amend my motion then. I'd like to remove items number two [0:18:43, 0:19:01]: Thirteen four thirteen, fourteen, and fifteen and add a m um and amend the motion to add onto the agenda number one, resolution to approve health and wellness vendor, Atlanta Health Systems, and number two, ordinance to establish youth council advisory board. [0:19:02, 0:19:15]: I'll second that as well. All right. We have a motion and a second for a changed agenda. You've heard the changes to it. We have a motion and a second. Is there discussion? Yes. [0:19:15, 0:19:35]: All right, Mr. Alexander. I reserve that we have five minutes to speak on any item. And that is five minutes that I choose to select uh to speak at this time. Uh item number three. No, no, we have a motion and uh we're having discussion, but we're gonna finish this motion. [0:19:35, 0:19:55]: So if you want to speak, let's do that after we have the discussion. Right. I'm choosing to this this is the discussion. Okay. All right, go for it. Right. I was just making making sure that we clarify the rules that there's five minutes uh on each any discussion item that is to be brought up. Uh first of all the item the item [0:19:55, 0:20:15]: Items that uh we removed from the agenda number thirteen. Number thirteen was a uh as an item that we wanted to that I wanted to bring to the table to have a discussion at some point on a appropriate honor to honor our former president, which is uh Barack. [0:20:15, 0:20:20]: Uh Obama. Uh I'm not sure if you're not a little bit more. [0:20:21, 0:20:22]: Okay. [0:20:23, 0:20:32]: I ask you not to do that now, but hold on, let's get look at our attorney and see if we can get this straight. Does he have the right to enduring this discussion to continue? [0:20:35, 0:20:43]: about our discussion item without the five minutes correct to speak about our motion or on [0:20:44, 0:20:46]: Okay. Madam Clerk, are you timing? [0:20:47, 0:20:50]: Yes. Okay, you may continue. [0:20:50, 0:21:10]: Okay, item number thirteen was uh for the council and to establish a committee to honor our former president uh Barack Obama. Uh whether that would be with a the naming of a road, uh that committee would be a select committee at which point they would uh get together and they would [0:21:10, 0:21:30]: would choose the appropriate road or appropriate highway which uh to honor the president. I've already spoken with counc with uh state legislature Sandra Scott and Miss Scott has already informed of us uh as long as the council agreed and that there was an appropriate process that that that we could honor. [0:21:30, 0:21:35]: uh President Obama with the dedication of a road project. [0:21:36, 0:21:56]: Uh item number fourteen, which is uh appropriate honor uh for Dr. Martin Luther King for Martin Luther King Sr. Daddy King was actually born here in the city of Stockbridge. Uh I I think most of us were appropriately touched and at the honor at the state capitol, at the state capitol. [0:21:56, 0:22:16]: Capitol, uh they unveiled a statue for Dr. Martin Luther King, which was long overdue. Uh it is a time that we appropriately honor uh the King family legacy here in Stockbridge, whether that be with a statue, a monument, or a facility named in his honor. [0:22:16, 0:22:36]: Uh it has also been suggested and discussed amongst this council that we would name a a potential youth uh senior center uh for Dr. for Daddy King, uh appropriately honor him in the Tye Street area. Uh we have recently acquired a pro acquired a property at Second Street [0:22:36, 0:22:56]: and Tigh Street with which uh a four-acre parcel that uh we could potentially um uh use to establish the youth center uh for our kids, a project that is long overdue because right now in order for us kids to attend a youth facility they have to travel outside the city to Fairview. [0:22:56, 0:23:04]: Or to another county recreation center. And that we deserve that. Great cities provide those services right here for their. [0:23:04, 0:23:16]: uh their chosen and for their children. We our kids deserve those types of facilities right here in the city limits and they should not have to go outside the city limits in order to do so. [0:23:17, 0:23:37]: Thank you. Okay. The last item uh was the supplier diversity policy. Uh Henry County and Commissioner D. Clemens has taken the lead on this particular item and they had uh you know they're awarding making sure that women and disadvantaged businesses are included in this process. And uh the city of Star Trek. [0:23:37, 0:23:57]: We introduced that policy last year. I thought we had actually passed it, and at some point we need to follow suit and do the right thing to make sure disadvantaged businesses and women-owned businesses have a seat at the table at the city of Stockbridge, and that is through making sure that we have an appropriate policy in place. [0:23:57, 0:24:07]: to make sure that city contracts uh do not exclude small business. And those were the items uh that were uh that uh I choose to discuss tonight. Thank you so much. [0:24:07, 0:24:18]: Thank you. We're gonna go forward at this time now and we're gonna vote on the amended agenda. All in favor? Any any other comments? [0:24:18, 0:24:38]: Um Mayor um Mayor L forward. Thank you. I just want to make sure that that uh my understanding is we did not agree to any type of name of any specific building uh thus far that I recall other than a Carrie May Hammer building which we've had a lot of discussion about. That's one thing. Number two is that uh I I think uh uh when reference to [0:24:38, 0:24:45]: This is not the appropriate time I believe to talk about that. Is that is that correct attorney? Or not? [0:24:57, 0:25:02]: Yeah, but I don't think we just Okay. Okay, but all right. It can be discussed. [0:25:03, 0:25:04]: Okay. [0:25:05, 0:25:15]: All right, so be it. Anyway, I just wanted to verify the fact that uh I don't think we came up with a specific name per se that I recall at this time. Anyway, thank you. [0:25:15, 0:25:17]: Mayor Neill. Um all right, Ms. Gantt. [0:25:18, 0:25:18]: Um [0:25:19, 0:25:26]: Not only have we not come up with a specific name, we just what we did was we purchased a piece of property and we don't have [0:25:26, 0:25:46]: We haven't discussed what we're gonna do with the property. We haven't voted on anything. That's number one. And the only reason I asked that we remove those items from the agenda because this is a meeting, we have twelve agenda items already and there were discussion items, but there was no material to back up the information. And I thought that maybe the council [0:25:46, 0:26:01]: whether we did a at one of our mini retreats or at one of our work sessions when we received more information on each topic that we would then discuss it without just talking about it, you know, without having any definite research on it. [0:26:01, 0:26:04]: That's all. [0:26:04, 0:26:06]: Any further comments? [0:26:06, 0:26:16]: Yes. The how much time did I have left, Miss Holiday? I have thirty seconds or twenty seconds or no, it's we're six six twelve and they began at six oh seven. I mean six oh six, excuse me. [0:26:17, 0:26:19]: Mm I'm saying my personal time, how much [0:26:19, 0:26:22]: Was six oh six to six eleven. [0:26:22, 0:26:31]: Yes, I've already done okay. Correct. Thank you. Okay, thank you. At this time then we'll go forward. All in favor, please raise your hand for the amended budget. [0:26:32, 0:26:50]: Thank you very much. Now we're going to go forward and we're going to adopt minutes from the following meetings from September 7th, September 14, and September 25th. Do I have a motion to approve those minutes? [0:26:51, 0:26:59]: So moved. We have a motion to approve. Do you hear a second? Second. All right, we have a motion and a second. Any discussion on the minutes? [0:27:00, 0:27:03]: If not, all in favor, please raise your hand. [0:27:04, 0:27:05]: Thank you. [0:27:06, 0:27:12]: At this time we're going to ask our clerk if we have any uh one [0:27:13, 0:27:33]: That signed up for three minute comments. There are no public comments. Okay, no public comments tonight. We'll move forward then with our old business and we're going to have an update tonight on our mu municipal court building renovation and that's going to be given by uh Deshius Aaron, our public works director. [0:27:33, 0:27:34]: Yeah. [0:27:34, 0:27:38]: Is any input coming from our city manager or is it all coming from you? [0:27:38, 0:27:56]: Y'all together gonna do it. Okay. Good evening, Madam Mayor and Council. S since we've completed a waterproofing project at City Hall and the Munus Municipal Court building, we've had two significant rain events. We haven't had any water intrusions into those buildings, so we're still monitoring and [0:27:57, 0:28:06]: We'll move forward as mayor and council dictate. The city manager and I had a conversation concerning the building earlier today, if you'd like to speak on that. [0:28:12, 0:28:30]: in council. We did speak about that and we've had some significant rain events since uh last we met and the water intrusion appears to be um um stayed at this point um and so we would like to move forward with hiring an industrial hygienist [0:28:31, 0:28:51]: to take a look at uh what it would uh take in terms of cost and time to rehabilitate the building, in other words to remove some of the mold debris that's accumulated in the building. We think we're in a fairly safe place. I think um we'll we'll go ahead if with your consent uh to go ahead and um [0:28:51, 0:29:11]: solicit uh industrial hygienist to take a look at what it would take and then hopefully uh as we continue to monitor any potential water intrusion into the building uh we would be in a position by January or so to begin uh the process of uh making those needed uh renovations based on the mold accumulated. [0:29:11, 0:29:11]: Yeah. [0:29:13, 0:29:33]: Okay, I hope those out in the audience will understand we have had uh some water issues off and on for a long time over at our court building and that has been addressed in several ways to assure that before any renovation is done, all of the water intrusion has been completely stopped. [0:29:33, 0:29:39]: So we're moving forward with a great deal of caution. I think that's what they're trying to share with us tonight. [0:29:41, 0:29:44]: Um okay that is item one. [0:29:45, 0:29:48]: Ant, could you open that for me real quick? [0:29:48, 0:30:06]: Excuse me. At this time um we are going to also um we don't have anything other than just to update, so we don't have anything to vote on with that one. Okay? So everybody good with that? Just wanted to share with you the plan going forward. [0:30:09, 0:30:16]: Would you make that comment loud enough for them to hear? Yes. I d I just wanted to mention that we just wanted to share with you our plan going forward. [0:30:18, 0:30:23]: Thank you. Okay, thank you so much for that. Uh item number two. [0:30:24, 0:30:33]: Council consideration to approve facilities use policy and that's gonna be presented. That was one of the ones we took off, sorry. [0:30:34, 0:30:36]: My cough distracted me there for a minute. [0:30:37, 0:30:50]: At this time we're going into public hearing and we're gonna start with uh a rezoning item number three and that will be presented to us by our community development director, Camilla Moore. [0:31:00, 0:31:03]: Mayor. [0:31:19, 0:31:22]: Good evening, Mayor, Member of Council. [0:31:23, 0:31:43]: Uh staff brings before you tonight a couple of rezoning cases. The first case that we bring before you tonight is RZ1719S. The applicant is postponed uh Passer Parn and Williams Lennox. They live at 10366 Tar Court, Jonesboro, Georgia. The location of this proposed rezoning [0:31:43, 0:32:03]: is 121 Rock Quarry Road. Landlot 62, 12th District. Their requests are rezoned from R in multifamily residential to R3 single family residential. The proposed use is single family. The current land use is undeveloped. The future land use is high density residential. Lot size is 0.504 acres. [0:32:02, 0:32:17]: Road access will accord road. The zoning history was zone RM multifamily back in February 2017, which was consistent with the future land use map. This is an area view of the subject property. [0:32:18, 0:32:19]: The next slide. [0:32:20, 0:32:28]: This is um more this parcel right here at the corner where you see the little trailer is actually the subject site. [0:32:31, 0:32:34]: This is a view from the south. [0:32:35, 0:32:35]: Okay. [0:32:37, 0:32:48]: This is our zoning map. As you can see, most of the um land use in the back of it is pretty much a residential and acqua across the street you actually have the rock, the quarry. [0:32:51, 0:33:11]: Mix them up. This particular lot, according to the resident, um, they want to live close to the hospital. It's an elderly couple. And so the site was cleared and what they would like to do at this point in time is to build a single family resident, which would allow them to be close to the hospital. [0:33:11, 0:33:31]: Uh it's multifamily, so what we're doing, we're doing a down zoning, which means that we're bringing it more into residential character. Staff, Henry County recommend approval with no condition. The city um start with staff, which is us recommended approval with conditions, and then the ZAB recommend approval with conditions, and all of these are in your package. [0:33:30, 0:33:31]: Yeah. [0:33:34, 0:33:36]: I am question. [0:33:37, 0:33:39]: Hey, do I have any [0:33:39, 0:33:40]: Question. [0:33:40, 0:33:42]: Got a question. Okay. [0:33:42, 0:33:49]: Miss Robinson. Thank you, Mayor. Uh Miss Moore, behind there, what is is that a business or [0:33:50, 0:33:51]: a resident. [0:33:51, 0:33:58]: It's actually a resident. Is that a resident? It it's multifamily all behind it. That's an apartment complex. [0:33:58, 0:34:01]: Okay, where the red truck is, I see. [0:34:01, 0:34:02]: Um [0:34:03, 0:34:09]: Like utility buildings in the back on wood once you Actually what's in red. [0:34:10, 0:34:15]: I'm looking at the picture on the area. Let's see. [0:34:18, 0:34:29]: Look at that picture. Okay, right there behind it is um somebody's to the side is a residence and is somebody stored right there? Is it they actually have storage on the site. It's a storage on the site. [0:34:30, 0:34:32]: But it is a residence. [0:34:35, 0:34:46]: There used to be a house there and they tore it down. Okay. And then back behind it was where some people stored items. Mayor Neal. Uh I'm sorry. Miss Gam. All right, do you have a question? Okay. [0:34:46, 0:35:00]: I would like to make a motion that we approve the rezoning of RZ's dash seventeen dash nineteen dash S w with the conditions that were recommended. Oh I'm sorry, it's public hearing. Public hearing. Sorry. [0:35:01, 0:35:02]: I have a question. [0:35:02, 0:35:02]: Okay. [0:35:03, 0:35:23]: You have a question, Mr. Yeah, is the applicant here? Yes, which she opens it up I think he's gonna come up. Okay, because uh my only issue is is that they're aware of what is coming. Uh there is a project that's gonna widen this road to four lanes. Um it's gonna be an extremely busy corridor. [0:35:23, 0:35:43]: Um right out in front of um where this is located at and that um you know in terms of a place uh a quiet place to be, it definitely will not be. And um I just want to hear from them and I'm sure we will, that uh [0:35:43, 0:36:03]: This i ev the future land use map around a cost for what designation here? Multifamily. It'll be multifamily all all around them. They will be there and they will be fronting this four lane highway with a median and and all of that. And I just wanna as long as they're [0:36:03, 0:36:13]: Okay and they're aware that uh this is gonna be the case'cause from here to where where the hospital is is is is what, maybe a maybe a mile or two? [0:36:14, 0:36:16]: Okay. All right. [0:36:16, 0:36:19]: Okay. Any other comments or questions? [0:36:20, 0:36:26]: Okay, at this time uh do I hear a motion to approve? Open it up, open it up. [0:36:27, 0:36:40]: Still need to open to open it up for those that want to hear it. Does support it. Um sorry. Okay. Since this is a public hearing, I'm gonna start over here. Anyone [0:36:41, 0:36:42]: Opposing [0:36:42, 0:36:44]: this project. [0:36:46, 0:36:48]: Anyone opposing the project? [0:36:49, 0:36:53]: Anyone want to be for the project? [0:36:53, 0:36:55]: Okay. All right. [0:36:57, 0:36:58]: You would come up, sir? [0:37:08, 0:37:09]: Thank you, Mayor. [0:37:12, 0:37:16]: Uh distinguished members, uh Mayor, Mayor Potem [0:37:16, 0:37:26]: Uh, members of the council. I'm William Lennox. Uh a little bit about myself. I'm a retired, uh, partially disabled military veteran. [0:37:27, 0:37:30]: And um I've lived in Clayton County [0:37:30, 0:37:36]: for quite a few years. I retired back in nineteen eighty eight and I understand some of you are veterans also. [0:37:36, 0:37:38]: And thank you for your service. [0:37:39, 0:37:59]: I'd like to say that uh I'm well aware that it's going to be a four lane highway out there. I also know that I've positioned our proposed property, our home to be as far back as possible, uh leaving the front area uh continually open. There is access not only [0:37:59, 0:38:02]: on Rockfury, but there's access on South Lee Street also. [0:38:03, 0:38:05]: Uh as far as the noise goes. [0:38:06, 0:38:24]: Well, I had a d very difficult time hearing everything that was being said in here, even with the speakers. So noise doesn't bother me. I've eaten in the rice patties of Vietnam. I've had grenades being thrown at me, and the biggest thing that bothers me is too much quiet. [0:38:25, 0:38:27]: I I want to say that [0:38:28, 0:38:34]: In the past and and the way we we decided upon this parcel was my son went into the military. [0:38:35, 0:38:36]: And um [0:38:37, 0:38:45]: Before he was to be deployed, he had decided that he wanted us to be somewhere closer in case he didn't return. [0:38:46, 0:38:47]: Um [0:38:48, 0:38:50]: So that we can be taken care of. [0:38:51, 0:38:54]: Well, he selected this parcel because it was affordable. [0:38:55, 0:39:04]: And it was in the area and it's about three mile radius is everything we will ever need to be a happy family. [0:39:04, 0:39:07]: Unfortunately he was killed. [0:39:07, 0:39:10]: before uh he got the opportunity to finish. [0:39:12, 0:39:15]: We would like to fulfill his dream. [0:39:15, 0:39:19]: We'd also like to live in Stockbridge, Georgia. [0:39:19, 0:39:22]: And we'd like to live at that piece of property. [0:39:23, 0:39:43]: We also have a dream to continue to fulfill what he did before he passed away, not only being a member of the military as a combat medic, but he was a mentor of disadvantaged youths through the martial arts program. As you can see, I'm in my martial arts clothes because I had to take a break from teaching and and head back this way. [0:39:43, 0:39:46]: I don't move like I used to, but I still move pretty good. [0:39:47, 0:39:49]: I do want to say though [0:39:49, 0:39:52]: that in order to continue his mentoring [0:39:53, 0:40:01]: One of the things that we do, we have our school right off of Rock Quarry, about 1.2 miles north, or uh actually south of here. [0:40:01, 0:40:06]: And in that school we mentor many youths that are [0:40:09, 0:40:11]: We'll call them at risk. [0:40:11, 0:40:20]: We've had some that and when it youths, uh twenty-two-year-olds that used to be gangbangers that are now assistant instructors. [0:40:20, 0:40:29]: We've spent that time and we've given to the community and we ask that the community understand what we truly want to do. [0:40:29, 0:40:32]: We want to be here as part of this community. [0:40:33, 0:40:35]: And to represent [0:40:36, 0:40:38]: our son's legacy to all. [0:40:39, 0:40:59]: Not only by living in this community, but one of the things we want to do is hopefully we'll be able to open up a portion of our property, the portion towards Rock Quarry, which is so noisy, and make a garden plot out of it. And then so teach our students how to utilize farming. [0:40:59, 0:41:01]: to help others and give to the poor. [0:41:02, 0:41:09]: Whether we'll fulfill that right now, I'm not sure. I'm not sure how much the county's even gonna take of our frontage. [0:41:10, 0:41:26]: But I know I've got enough for a house and I've got enough for a small house that I can make that has good accessibility, that my two old artificial knees can make it up and down. I'm not gonna have a a duplex or a d a double story. It's gonna be single. [0:41:26, 0:41:27]: Right. [0:41:28, 0:41:31]: But the main thing is our son wanted us to be there. [0:41:32, 0:41:39]: And since he couldn't fulfil it, I ask that you allow us to fulfill his dream. Thank you. [0:41:39, 0:41:40]: Thank you, sir. [0:41:45, 0:41:50]: At this time, uh since we have no objections, do I hear a motion? [0:41:51, 0:41:53]: Mayor Neil. Oh here. Yes, ma'am, Miss Gantt. [0:41:54, 0:42:07]: I move that we approve the rezoning RZ-17-19-S with the conditions that were given by our planning and zoning committee support. [0:42:07, 0:42:13]: Okay, we have a motion. We have a second by Mr. Alexander. Is there further discussion from the council? [0:42:13, 0:42:17]: If not, all in favor, please raise your hand. [0:42:18, 0:42:20]: All right, thank you very much. [0:42:20, 0:42:40]: Okay, we have another rezoning item and we're gonna also ask Ms. Uh Moore if she'll present the Yes ma'am. The next item for your consideration tonight is RZ1720-S and it has a companion case for variance which is VR 1719S. The applicant is Diane Miller who lives at 804 Rum Hill. [0:42:40, 0:43:00]: Comey, Stockbridge, Georgia. The agent is Philip Logan. The location is 103 Carrie May Lane, Landlot 36, District 12. Their initial request was rezoning from R three to C2. Parcel numbers S twenty O three O one O. Proposed use is for a restaurant. [0:43:00, 0:43:20]: The current land use is rezoning, which is vacant, a variety for a single-family home, and a vacant commercial building. Those are the current uses. Future land use is medium density residential. Lot size is 0.277 acres and 666 acres. The road access is Carrie Main Lane. [0:43:20, 0:43:24]: which is a local road and 2nd Street, which is a local road. [0:43:24, 0:43:32]: We have a couple of pictures for you. This is an area view of the subject site and as you can see it's drawn in orange. [0:43:33, 0:43:37]: The next slide. This is the current view of the current [0:43:39, 0:43:44]: views. And all of us know this is the little restaurant that used to be a part of Sidebridge. Next one. [0:43:46, 0:43:48]: This is another view. [0:43:48, 0:43:49]: From the rear. [0:43:52, 0:43:56]: This is another view so that you can see that it's heavily residential. [0:43:57, 0:43:57]: Yes sir. [0:43:59, 0:44:02]: Henry County recommended approval from [0:44:03, 0:44:23]: R3 to C2 commercial. Staff did not agree with that recommendation. And the reason is why is that we don't like the spot zone. When you have a residential community, we're very hesitant to recommend that you bring in a commercial zoning from a land use perspective in the middle of a residential district. [0:44:23, 0:44:43]: So what staff and the planning commission decide to do, we actually are recommending that you rezone from R3 to R3 with conditional use permit that would allow the operation of this particular facility as a restaurant in this historic area. And we also approve [0:44:42, 0:44:57]: the variances that are attached because it is an existing structure. We actually need for the variances to be approved as well in order to bring this property into compliance with the development standards. And those are the recommendations from staff. [0:44:57, 0:44:58]: Okay. [0:44:59, 0:45:01]: Um our attorney. [0:45:01, 0:45:04]: To be clear, if you approve [0:45:05, 0:45:17]: zoning then item six will no longer be necessary because the variances requested in item six would be com uh part of the rezoning in this matter. [0:45:17, 0:45:37]: Okay. So you've heard that comment from the attorney. If this is approved, item six that follows would not be necessary. Okay. Uh question. A question down from Ms. Robinson. I just want to make sure that this structure will remain um as a honor because I've spoken with the person and [0:45:37, 0:45:52]: To my understanding it's gonna remain for Miss Carrie May in her her name, correct? Yes ma'am, it's one of the r conditions that we require is that it be placed on historic registry. And as it is placed on historic registry, it will be placed under that name. [0:45:53, 0:46:00]: Okay, any other questions? Yes. Okay, uh first let me get Mr. Alexander and then we'll come to Mr. Blount. [0:46:01, 0:46:21]: Uh I obviously this uh is a project that we would like to see uh come to fruition in the city um uh helping to restore and to make this project uh restore some of the history of Stockbridge. I did have some questions um in terms of uh uh the business [0:46:21, 0:46:22]: It's cell. [0:46:22, 0:46:31]: And uh I I guess they would probably be more appropriate for the applicant to answer because uh I don't know if there's been any type of [0:46:31, 0:46:51]: traffic study or anything about going through the area about the sustainability because I I understand what you're doing because what you're doing is that this will apply only to this business, only to this owner, because otherwise it will be opened up for anybody to repeat this in a residential area. [0:46:51, 0:47:11]: But what are your thoughts um are behind the number of variances that are required? Um and then um for instance uh during the business uh as far as a historic thing uh a piece of property like this, uh making it ADA compliant, uh a no [0:47:11, 0:47:31]: is from serving on the zoning board you have to have a certain amount of parking and in terms of um uh handicap access parking as well uh in terms of paving the parking lot and all of that could you discuss that a little bit correct as you know um uh for an item to be placed on historic register it could either be the site or the [0:47:31, 0:47:51]: building. And from my understanding because some modifications may have to be made to the building, the historic um entity hi the state of Georgia will allow certain modifications as long as it keeps its natural character. And from my understanding the applicant proposes to retain as much of its physical presence [0:47:51, 0:48:07]: as it's currently it is today, uh, to make sure that it can get on the the registry. The reason why the variances are such is that over time, I think it's been vacant for about ten or fifteen years, in order to not have to treat it as a new development. [0:48:08, 0:48:16]: then we will need to give some variances. And yes, we will have to have ADA accessibility because that is required. [0:48:16, 0:48:36]: Okay, one other question. Maybe I could ask this to the attorney uh as as well, and I mean you probably could answer better than he could, about this not opening up um the can of worms, which is then the next person says, Well, you did it for this applicant, why don't you do it for me? Well that's why we do you [0:48:36, 0:48:56]: Use permits and we're in the process of what a use permit does, it ties it to the use rather than changing your land use in terms of what is your land use is supposed to be. And in those instances like this, and in other cases where we don't want to open up the door to change the land use, which would be inconsistent. [0:48:56, 0:49:16]: To what is on the ground, then what staff will do is that we will bring your recommendation to have a conditional use permit that will overlay the land. And it only stays with that use. So for instance, if she goes out of business next week or next year, it will revert or convert back to what it [0:49:16, 0:49:28]: I'm used to hearing from the applicant in these hearings. Is it possible to hear from the applicant in these hearing? [0:49:29, 0:49:31]: Okay, Mr. Blount. [0:49:32, 0:49:52]: I'm um be brief. I'm excited about the this and I'm I'm I'm uh actually excited about if you will that it's gonna be um is on the the historic registry because what we've talked about in building the carame handbrick whatever building that whatever we multi-use or whatever we do and on that site the [0:49:52, 0:50:12]: this actually gives a piece, a historical piece of her her legacy and her life in in the city of Stockbridge, that it can say this is the facility that you can go to and this is where it uh arrived from this right here. And so I I I'm uh I'm excited about that and I and I like that we put uh components in place to [0:50:12, 0:50:24]: to uh not only guard us, protect protect us from future land use that want to come in because they see this that we and and also with the uh with the uh historic registry piece. So uh I'm I'm definitely uh definitely in for that. [0:50:25, 0:50:36]: Okay, at this time uh we're gonna ask uh if anyone is opposing this um conditional use permit. Anyone in the audience opposed? [0:50:38, 0:50:40]: Anyone in the audience for this? [0:50:41, 0:50:44]: Ms. Miller, would you like to come up and talk to us a minute? [0:50:46, 0:50:47]: Mm. [0:50:50, 0:51:10]: Good evening, Mayor, Council, and neighbors. My name is Diane D. Miller. I live here in the city of Stockbridge. I have had the pleasure and the honor of doing so for the last sixteen years or so. And uh during this time I have come to uh learn a lot about our historic district and understanding [0:51:09, 0:51:20]: the Carrie May Hambrick legacy. Um so I stand before you asking for this permission uh to both um [0:51:20, 0:51:40]: repair and beautify the cafe and and return it back to being a vibrant part of the community. I I am hopeful that uh I am able to just do a a small part of what Miss Carrie May was able to do in and doing my service as part of the community. I believe in community service. I I deal with a lot [0:51:40, 0:51:48]: lot of things here and this is just one other way to to be a part of and I'm I'm very excited. I hope that you also will see this as something that we can move forward with. [0:51:50, 0:51:54]: Thank you so much, uh Ms. Miller. Any other um [0:51:55, 0:51:58]: Comment from you or from Ms. Moore before I call for a motion? [0:51:59, 0:52:19]: I didn't know if they had a couple of questions. Anyone else up here have a question? Yes. Thank you, Miss Miller, for coming up. I just I appreciate it. And um, you know what you do a lot of work in the community. I I definitely want to see you be successful and whatever we can do to help you uh to be successful. My questions were only concerns about the community. [0:52:19, 0:52:39]: because of what is going on and we want to do what's necessary to make you successful uh because we don't want you to go over there and then and and then have to uh be what it is. With times changing and everything, tell us a little bit about your um your vision for what you want to see and this to be able to operate as a success. [0:52:39, 0:52:59]: Well I've I've already had conversation with the Georgia State Historic Preservation and they're excited about something like this in the area. I'm not trying to make it some hipster place. I'd like it to be uh continue to be a community center. Um again I I did [0:52:59, 0:53:19]: not have the pleasure of knowing Miss Carrie May. However, there is not one person that has um spent time here in Stockbridge during the time when she was alive that doesn't have wonderful things to say about her. Even now that the building is not operating as a cafe, on any given day you go by there and there's usually somebody hanging out around there. [0:53:19, 0:53:26]: So um I'm I'm hopeful that I can bring the same thing. I'm not concerned about um [0:53:26, 0:53:46]: You know whether or not we'll be able to make this successful monetarily, uh, I I believe people coming through this area as they start to get excited about our historic district will will have a a good down-home experience for them. Um I and I definitely want it to be someplace that the people of the community still feel [0:53:46, 0:53:50]: that they can be a part of. I mean that that is the intention. [0:53:50, 0:53:51]: Thank you. [0:53:52, 0:54:12]: Okay. At this time uh we have a question here from Mr. Ford. Actually, thank you, Mayor. It's not really a question, it's just a sense uh Ms. Miller, I appreciate the fact you're doing this. I think this will be a great thing for the community whatnot and the historical aspect and I look forward to the success of this. Absolutely. It's gonna do great things for our historical [0:54:12, 0:54:19]: district. I hope so. And good things for you and and everybody around the city media area. Thank you. Appreciate it. Any other comments? [0:54:19, 0:54:34]: Okay. Uh in that case I'll call for uh a motion. Do I hear a motion to approve uh the rezoning RZ dash seventeen dash twenty dash s uh s uh conditional use permit? Manil. [0:54:34, 0:54:47]: I move that we approve the r the um rezoning RZ-1720-S with the conditional use permit. Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second from Mr. Blount. Is there discussion? [0:54:48, 0:54:52]: With no discussion, we'll move on for the vote. All in favor? [0:54:53, 0:55:13]: The variants. You need to include the companion. I'm sorry, to include the variants. To include the variants. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. I was told that it was just automatic. Right. We're fine. Okay. We're good. Okay. All right. Thank you for your vote. That means that we're removing item number six as [0:55:13, 0:55:33]: a result of that so if you would council move mark out item number six at this time we're going to go to another rezoning um in remaining in public hearing and that's going to be rezoning from CNC fence presented by Miss Camilla yes ma'am this is the last rezoning application before you take [0:55:33, 0:55:53]: Tonight. RC 1721-S. The applicant is C and C Fence. Address is 2680 Highway 42 North, McDonough, Georgia, 30253. The agent is Brent H. Moore, Land Engineering and Development. [0:55:53, 0:56:13]: Property is Highway 42, immediate south of 268 or Highway 42 North, Landlock 1 and 2 of the 7th District, and Land Lot 1 and 2 of the District. The applicant is requested to rezon it from C2 general commercial to C3 heavy commercial. The proposed use is outside storage. [0:56:13, 0:56:20]: Current land use is undeveloped. The future land use is commercial C2. [0:56:20, 0:56:40]: Uh this applicant has come before you tonight asking that uh mayor and council consider the rezoning from R two to R three for heavy commercial so that it could be an outstorage outdoor storage facility. Uh Henry County recommended approval. However, uh the ZAB and the staff recommends denial. [0:56:40, 0:56:53]: for the current reasons. As you can look at this particular map, which is the location of the site, we've also provided you an additional map for you to look at. [0:56:54, 0:57:14]: This particular parcel is surrounded by a lot of residential development. Um and the concern that we had about recommended approval for this particular use is that again you're changing in the land use. You're going from a C2 commercial to a heavy commercial in a private [0:57:14, 0:57:34]: Primary residential community that's heavy residential. The other issue is that on the map that I've given you, when we talk to the people from the subdivision right across the street, their concern was the 18-wheelers coming in and turning in. I think we've circled that on your map, turning in right across from the end. [0:57:34, 0:57:44]: entry to their subdivision. So because of that, the ZAB and the planning staff has recommended denial. The next slide. [0:57:45, 0:57:57]: This is uh area view from the north which shows you the condition of Highway 42. We're going to show you another angle of the property. [0:57:58, 0:58:01]: Another to the next. From the south. [0:58:03, 0:58:14]: This is just a land use map. As you can see, most of it around it is residential, other than the commercial parcels that are supposed to be along the parkway. [0:58:15, 0:58:35]: Next slide. So that's it. What staff has done, should you choose to approve it, we have uh given some conditions because we don't feel that it should be uh approved with any conditions, but our recommendation is denial, primarily because of the location, two because of the request. [0:58:35, 0:58:43]: of the neighborhoods that it be denied, three because of the land use that basically does not call for anything other than C two. [0:58:44, 0:58:50]: Would you like to present to the council what those conditions are so that they're in your book? [0:58:50, 0:58:52]: Would you read them into the record? [0:58:54, 0:58:56]: Okay, let's see [0:58:59, 0:59:01]: I think I gave you all my copies. [0:59:05, 0:59:06]: [3552.5, 3572.5]: Okay, condition number one is to agree to the site plan. Condition number two, no more than sixty-five percent of the property. Condition number three, the outside storage can only be incidental to the primary. Condition number four is that it prohibits modular building or shipping control. [0:59:32, 0:59:41]: containers to be used. Condition number five, seventy five foot. Mayor, I'm sorry. Can we follow you? You had the papers. [0:59:41, 0:59:47]: Okay. Do you have those papers? I'm trying to follow you since we're just now getting these. So I wanna [0:59:47, 1:00:02]: They're not in your book. They should be in your book under the tab as a part of the clerk's agenda. Okay, because I was given this. So it's in a book. Okay, look in your notebook. Okay. Tab number five. Tab number five. Thank you. Page two is the conditions. [1:00:09, 1:00:29]: The only changes in those conditions are that we for what I'm reading you is that we made some changes based on our conversation with the applicant. Okay? And I will make those uh there was a change in number two. We initially said 25% of the property, and then we went up to 65%. [1:00:29, 1:00:30]: Five percent. [1:00:33, 1:00:48]: On number five, we really believe that it should be a hundred and fifty foot buffer, but from talking to the applicant, we made some adjustments to 75 in certain locations or next to residential and then still left a hundred foot buffer in the peripheral. [1:00:48, 1:00:53]: I'm sorry. They had tab number five. [1:00:53, 1:00:56]: I'm looking at tab number five. [1:00:56, 1:00:59]: RZ 17-21-S. [1:01:12, 1:01:13]: Okay. [1:01:14, 1:01:16]: And you went from number one, correct? [1:01:16, 1:01:25]: Yes, ma'am. The only changes in what you're reading and what I'm presenting tonight is the number two, instead of twenty-five percent, we put sixty-five. [1:01:26, 1:01:31]: In number five, we went from one fifty to seventy-five and a hundred. [1:01:34, 1:01:40]: And then number ten, to make sure that all the GDOT requirements are complied with. [1:01:46, 1:01:48]: Ten is new. [1:01:48, 1:01:49]: Mm-hmm. [1:01:51, 1:02:01]: is compliance with uh GDOT transportation requirements which include eight um acceleration, deceleration and turn lanes if needed. [1:02:04, 1:02:24]: Okay, you've heard the Oh I just wanted to finish. Um we the neighborhood across the street here, to the right across, um they're the ones who have the concern about the 18 wheelers. The ones in the back are the ones that are concerned about the noise that they say they're currently receiving. [1:02:24, 1:02:25]: Even if you're going to be able to [1:02:25, 1:02:27]: And what are those neighborhoods? [1:02:28, 1:02:29]: Um [1:02:30, 1:02:43]: Park side and lake view. Yes ma'am. Lake View. Okay. All right. Um do you have anything else, Miss Moore? Uh have questions unless they have questions. Okay. I have a question. Mr. Blount? [1:02:43, 1:02:44]: We have a question. [1:02:46, 1:02:50]: Yes, um on this property w what size [1:02:51, 1:02:56]: are they operating on now that and then what size is this that's gonna be added to? [1:02:56, 1:03:14]: Uh this acres I'm gonna let him speak when he comes up. Um but their property is the building right adjacent to it and then they want to acquire I think it's ten acres additionally to do the expansion. And our opinion based on that was just not to do spot zoning. [1:03:14, 1:03:21]: The reason I'm asking uh is you say he the uh um person is here? The reason I'm asking because [1:03:21, 1:03:41]: When we have residents, uh, such as Windsong and we have other residents that um I think it's uh Wow Wind, when you have an existing facility and then you build a subdivision that create uh and then those people move into those subdivisions that knowing that there's a potential for creation of s noise. [1:03:41, 1:03:54]: or whatever, then there's nothing we can do about that. Actually, but when you actually have uh when you actually have a subdivision already established and then we do rezoning that could create [1:03:54, 1:04:14]: something for a neighborhood, then that's where I kind of th that's where I'm at is trying because I'm looking at uh the first property, the one that's uh uh a little north, if you look at the di the one that's sitting next to it, you're looking at about eleven parcels that's butted up against the property that they're trying to uh bring in for the variances. [1:04:14, 1:04:25]: And so I'm I want to dig in and find out what are we actually creating for those neighborhoods because I don't I I wouldn't want to create a situation that's that doesn't already exist. [1:04:25, 1:04:32]: Right. I I think what we try to share with the applicant is that um I think this property was purchased in two thousand and ten. [1:04:33, 1:04:53]: Two thousand and ten. A lot of these neighborhoods are older than that. Um so you know, whoever was here probably should not have allowed this to occur right there. So our opinion is that if you have a situation, do you want to compound it more so for the residents or do you want to mitigate what's there? So our recommendation is not to [1:04:53, 1:05:00]: to make it any worse from the residents that are there, but see how it can be mitigated. So that's why [1:05:01, 1:05:02]: And maybe recommended. [1:05:02, 1:05:13]: This go ahead the other part of it is when you're coming down Eagles Landing to make a right turn, coming from Eagles Landing from the Interstate, to make a right turn on forty two, there has to be [1:05:13, 1:05:16]: a U-turn in order to get to this property. [1:05:17, 1:05:19]: And that U turn [1:05:20, 1:05:35]: There has to be a y there's no direct cut into the property. Well on this piece they're actually on this piece they're on this piece they're actually asking for a new curb cut which would be directly across from the curb cut to the subdivision across the street. [1:05:37, 1:05:51]: Okay. That's yes. We have another question down here from um Miss Robinson. Right. Um Miss Thank you, Mayor. Miss Moore, so there's a subdivision across and we're talking going [1:05:52, 1:06:04]: Toward McDonough. And there's a subdivision right there and with a tip of where you can do a U turn and then there's another street that I guess they're gonna be cut and like a dirt road now. [1:06:04, 1:06:12]: Well there is a path that's if you can see on if you look, you see there's you see the little looks like a little dirt road right in there. [1:06:13, 1:06:14]: That's where [1:06:15, 1:06:16]: Right. [1:06:17, 1:06:18]: See if I could blow it out. [1:06:19, 1:06:39]: Initially this property was supposed to have been developed for something else. Um because uh one part on the back side was supposed to be the expansion of phase three of that subdivision. And this piece was supposed to be designed for a commercial um piece of property or commercial development. So they had already done [1:06:39, 1:06:42]: and the road improvements right across. [1:06:44, 1:07:04]: Now let me blow it up. Any other questions? Mr. Ford. Yes, I was wondering, um, is there such a thing as some type of sound barriers like you having along the highway, but something more beautiful in a sense that it can be aesthetically that would complement anything like that? Well, I I think we put in there about the only thing that you can do. We asked for um [1:07:04, 1:07:24]: Fencing that's solid. Uh should you approve it? Maybe burns, but you know, I just don't know. You know, sound is one of those things. I mean if you have a forklift that's beeping, I mean I don't know how much sound there there is an easement, a utility easement in between, but we've gotten calls from the neighborhood on the backside that [1:07:24, 1:07:44]: complains about whatever noise they hear. I don't know what noise they're actually hearing from the existing use. We I have just gotten calls that complain about the noise. And so whatever that is, I mean I don't know. The applicant may be able to speak more in terms of the particular noise that's being emitted at this point in time. [1:07:44, 1:07:56]: We've just gotten complaints from the subdivision behind them in regards to the noise that they particularly that row of houses in the back, they complain. But I you know, that's about [1:07:56, 1:08:16]: It in your experience is is there such thing as having sound berries that would be adequate that you think might even work if they're uh wanna you know see whether or not there's something they can build? I'm just asking, you know. I mean we can look at sound berries like they have along two eighty five. I it may be cost prohibitive for him to kinda, you know, invest in that. But yeah, you can always have [1:08:16, 1:08:22]: have sound bears developed to try to emit the noise. [1:08:23, 1:08:43]: We've got another question from Mr. Alexander. No, no, and no. This is uh a situation where we've been tasked already. I'm a area I I live in this area. I know it very, very, very well. And the citizens who live in that community which is part of Stockbridge is their eagle [1:08:43, 1:09:03]: Landing area have passed all of us with doing better. One of the reasons that we're we have what we're facing, which is um you know the potential breakup of our city, is that they in the past we have allowed such things as this to go along. You hit it right on the head, Miss Morris. [1:09:03, 1:09:07]: when you said it was supposed to be part of the subdivision. Somehow [1:09:07, 1:09:26]: That project fell through. What would we look like going and approving this measure knowing that the citizens of that area have already told us that they wanted to increase the zoning standards? That's not what we should be doing. And as a area resident who lives [1:09:26, 1:09:46]: couple of miles away from there, I would be totally against any of this uh moving forward because we're trying to set a higher standard. And I would like to ask uh Miss Moore, we recently passed the highway corridor plan. Uh tell me how that particularly I'm against uh um impacts this and [1:09:46, 1:09:51]: And uh as a real area resident I'm I'm not for this at all. [1:09:52, 1:10:12]: Well, uh the intent of the uh Howard Corridor plans that you adopted in Henry County is to make your corridors appealing, uh such that the type of commercial development that you would see along those corridors would be the type of industries that would make people want to relocate the stock road. [1:10:12, 1:10:28]: And so that's why they took great emphasis to prevent certain uses like this from coming along major corridors. And that was the intent for both Henry County and the City of Start Bridge. [1:10:29, 1:10:31]: Are there other questions from the council? [1:10:32, 1:10:48]: If they're not, we're again in public hearing, so we're gonna ask anyone in the audience uh uh who is opposing this ordinance or this rezoning rather, please make it be known if you're opposed. [1:10:48, 1:10:51]: Um would you like to come to the podium? [1:10:52, 1:10:53]: We have one person who [1:10:55, 1:10:59]: Have another one back here, okay? We'll let you come one at a time. [1:11:02, 1:11:05]: Madam Clerk, do we have a limit on the time? [1:11:05, 1:11:07]: No. Okay. Help you. [1:11:07, 1:11:27]: I have been a resident of uh the city of Stockbridge for seventeen years and lived in the subdivision of Parkerside and um it is Jan Howard. Uh it is uh my property values have already deteriorated fifty thousand dollars since I moved there in two thousand one. Uh they will also go down further. [1:11:27, 1:11:30]: that was supposed to have been a subdivision in that area. [1:11:30, 1:11:37]: And the traffic in the morning is a gridlock, nonstop. And I frequently travel that [1:11:37, 1:11:57]: uh route going to McDonough or I come south and go towards Stockbridge. And it's always a nightmare. And I I can turn in my subdivision but having um people cut through my subdivision to get uh to go forty two south. It's already an impediment for children in the area and for the residents that walk their dogs. And it's also you [1:11:57, 1:12:17]: can hear noise from uh Eagles Landing Church when they have football games. So if you can hear the noise from there, what do you think it's gonna be with those big eighteen wheelers or uh whatever they're putting in? I'm totally against it because our our area has gone downhill and s as someone raised at our HOA meeting, our property values in McDonough [1:12:17, 1:12:26]: um they're worth twenty thousand dollars more than they are in the city of Stockbridge. And this will only make it deteriorate further and it will not encourage people to move to Stockbridge. [1:12:27, 1:12:29]: Thank you, Ms. Howard. [1:12:30, 1:12:31]: And we have a [1:12:33, 1:12:49]: Okay, we'll just put you in for a ditto. How about that? Okay, thank you so much. Um all right now at this time we're gonna ask for anyone who is in favor of this rezoning to please come to the microphone and identify yourself by name. [1:12:58, 1:12:59]: Have a room. [1:12:59, 1:13:09]: Good evening. Good evening. My name is Brent Moy. I'm with Land Engineering and Development. We're a civil engineering firm here local to Henry County. Um hopefully I can [1:13:10, 1:13:30]: address your questions, answer some of the concerns raised. Miss Linda Clark is here also. I'm going to give her an opportunity to speak to. I've been hired by CNC Fence to represent them, assist them with coming up with a solution of what to do with this property. [1:13:31, 1:13:47]: CNC Fence purchased the adjacent property, the property to the north that zoned M1, used to be the Plymark facility. They purchased that location in 2010, February 2010, and have operated there since. [1:13:48, 1:13:57]: They currently have approximately 50 employees. Of those forty of them live in Henry County. [1:13:57, 1:14:10]: Um of those, about half of those live in the city of limits of Stockbridge. So they are a um you know active small business in this community. Um when they came to me um [1:14:10, 1:14:13]: Their need right now is to store [1:14:15, 1:14:28]: Limited use items. So these are items that they do not use on a daily basis, but that they do have a need to store at their location. Their desire is to stay in this location. [1:14:29, 1:14:48]: The opportunity to purchase 13 acres came up this year, and so they purchased the parcel we're requesting to rezone, which is 10 acres, and the adjacent three acre parcel between that parcel and the church. So it's a total of 13 acres. We came in, met with the zoning department, and requested our zoning [1:14:49, 1:14:53]: for the ten acre tract. And and [1:14:53, 1:15:06]: What we are requesting for that 10-acre tract is, um, as Ms. Moore stated, C3 for storage only. The property is currently C2. [1:15:07, 1:15:23]: The only reason we want are requesting C three at all is it is the lowest zoning classification in the city that will allow outside storage. So if we were allowed to do it in C2, we're not. And and that's why we're requesting the C three. [1:15:25, 1:15:32]: That gives us a unique opportunity right now, a unique opportunity to have input on what goes there. [1:15:32, 1:15:37]: if we the handout that came out to you a minute ago was from me. [1:15:37, 1:15:40]: And it's I'm going to go through a couple of those items. [1:15:41, 1:15:49]: I didn't know we had to have it on a computer. I thought we could have an overhead, so I printed those real quick this afternoon so that you could look at them. [1:15:49, 1:15:54]: One of the handouts says current permitted uses on it and it's got some [1:15:55, 1:15:56]: Is this one? [1:15:58, 1:16:00]: If you want to look at it with me. [1:16:02, 1:16:03]: So it's [1:16:03, 1:16:23]: current permitted uses and this is what's allowed currently at this location with no I mean it'll have to go through development review, it'll have to go through permitting with the permitting department. But currently on this property as a C2 zoning you could have a service station. I just highlighted a few of these in red. [1:16:23, 1:16:25]: A package store. [1:16:26, 1:16:46]: Taxi office, nursery school with the appropriate state licensing, a car wash, shopping centers, bus terminals, pet shops, pawn shops, any any other of these uses, restaurant and as such with drive-through. So the unique opportunity [1:16:46, 1:16:48]: opportunity that we have today [1:16:49, 1:17:05]: is to propose a use and to approve a use that is actually an intended use. We're not here asking for some speculative zoning. Um we're asking to s specifically for what they need the property to be used for. [1:17:11, 1:17:15]: I'm just reading through my notes real quick. I apologize. Um [1:17:16, 1:17:36]: If you are willing to approve those, I want to go through the conditions real quick. Ms. Moore and I have been communicating. She gave us her initial recommended conditions. We sent her back a response and she just handed me a a another round of those edits. And so I've looked through them and I'd like to go through those real quick. [1:17:36, 1:17:42]: I just want to emphasize the fact that that we're not asking for [1:17:43, 1:18:02]: a C three that is all of C three and everything that is C three. We just need the storage. It's still gonna be in all intents and purposes C two but allow storage of these materials. I do not have this electronically to put on the overhead, but I did bring [1:18:03, 1:18:14]: some pictures of what those materials are, but I only have one copy. But I'm happy to hand those around. And written on the back of them is what they are. Temporary fencing. [1:18:15, 1:18:25]: It's you can hold it up. It's sections of fencing that are put up around construction sites and other locations temporarily so they go out on a job and then they come back. [1:18:27, 1:18:28]: Traffic barriers. [1:18:29, 1:18:32]: used on road projects. They're sent out [1:18:33, 1:18:41]: for a project for an extended period of time, then they come back for an extended period of time, and then they go back out. They're not an everyday use item. [1:18:42, 1:18:53]: pedestrian barriers for events around the square, Peachtree Road Race, where you want to direct pedestrian traffic. These are the types of items that [1:18:53, 1:19:00]: They currently store on their existing facility and it's getting crowded, so they want a place to store those long term. [1:19:01, 1:19:06]: Before I get into conditions, I want to address a couple of questions from the councilman. [1:19:09, 1:19:15]: at that site and if you look at the layout the sketch that I handed you on eleven by seventeen [1:19:16, 1:19:36]: the D cell lane, the median, the road improvements for DOT, they are all already constructed. They were pro part of the DOT widening project that came through there and and improved 42. In meeting with Ms. Clark earlier today, I was not aware of this, but when they originally [1:19:36, 1:19:43]: purchased their current location, they could turn left into their facility. And now [1:19:43, 1:20:03]: Anybody that comes into their facility has to be northbound on 42. So they're currently having to do a U-turn. Semi trucks, if they can't make that, have to go to Jotoko Road and put traffic on Jotoko Road or all the way to Jonesboro to get in this northbound lane to come back to that property located. [1:20:03, 1:20:06]: adjacent. So [1:20:07, 1:20:08]: Currently now. [1:20:09, 1:20:25]: There is no driveway into the property, but everything up to the right-of-way is constructed. It would we would not even have to pull a permit from DOT. We've already talked to the district office. We could simply just connect to their existing asphalt and put a driveway in. [1:20:27, 1:20:33]: So that would, in my mind, looking at it as an engineer, address some of the [1:20:33, 1:20:45]: issue with any traffic coming into their site could turn left into this driveway and would not have to do a U-turn. So it it may actually provide some relief we would hope. [1:20:45, 1:20:46]: Um [1:20:48, 1:20:53]: That was the biggest concern and then you ask another question. What was your second question about [1:20:54, 1:21:02]: Um well I was concerned about what what is what is the size that you are operating in now. Okay, yes I have that answer acres that you I have that answer. Yes, sir. [1:21:03, 1:21:06]: So currently their location is 6.6 acres. [1:21:07, 1:21:21]: with building, parking and everything. They have just expanded the parking lot in front of their site to what do we add, eighteen parking spaces to in in front of their site to accommodate the employees they have now. [1:21:23, 1:21:43]: My concern with this, if you don't mind me doing a follow-up mayor, is when you look at this thirteen acres that is and a partial of it is butted up to the parking lot, you're not asking for a partial. You're asking to rezone thirteen acres. Ten. Ten. Well even ten acres. I I just want to be over the size of the operations that you're doing. [1:21:43, 1:21:52]: [4913.1, 4929.2]: Miss Moore and I went back and forth about she's up to sixty five percent. We were asking when we did our layout with buffers and everything, we came up with seven acres of usable area once we accommodated the buffers and [1:22:09, 1:22:13]: um you know grading and detention pond and everything. [1:22:14, 1:22:19]: Now with the sixty five percent it would be six and a half acres. So we would be going from six point six to [1:22:20, 1:22:25]: thirteen acres total. We'd add another six and a half acres to their facility. [1:22:26, 1:22:29]: So we would be able to use six and a half of the ten acres. [1:22:29, 1:22:31]: That's there. The rest would be buffers. [1:22:32, 1:22:32]: And [1:22:34, 1:22:34]: Other [1:22:35, 1:22:36]: appurtenances. [1:22:36, 1:22:36]: Um [1:22:37, 1:22:57]: I'm going to do this really quickly. If you have a question, by all means I'm happy for you to interrupt me. Item one, dealing with the site plan, we had requested one edit to the terminology in it, simply to say that if it's approved, that it be per the approved conditions, not the conditions in that document. [1:22:57, 1:23:06]: before it was edited. Item two has been revised. We're now in agreement with the 65%. Item three [1:23:07, 1:23:10]: is dealing with the future building. [1:23:10, 1:23:20]: When we came in and did the pre-submittal meeting and sat down with Ms. Moore, we were wrestling with how do we accommodate the requirement that [1:23:20, 1:23:38]: um outside storage be located in the side and rear setbacks. So what we had proposed was to show a future building to establish those setbacks and then that would give us the limits of where we could work with. After that meeting, Miss Moore communicated with me and said [1:23:39, 1:23:45]: she felt that it needed to be built now. So that's an item that's up for your input also. [1:23:45, 1:24:00]: We prefer not to build a building. I don't know if it limits this or not completely to being unusable or it m i we don't have that answer. It's we haven't had time to digest all of that. We would request [1:24:01, 1:24:03]: That we and the way we've [1:24:04, 1:24:07]: We resubmitted our edit the way that that submitted [1:24:08, 1:24:14]: would allow us to build per the site plan, not with a future building, not build the building now. [1:24:15, 1:24:15]: Um [1:24:16, 1:24:17]: Item four. [1:24:18, 1:24:36]: deals with no containers and we're we fully agree with that. Item five we agree with now that it's been edited to 75 feet, we're we we can make that happen. We had responded fifty feet but we're s we can work with 75 along the residential. So [1:24:36, 1:24:37]: The landscape [1:24:38, 1:24:45]: uh code that was just adopted in August. Between commercial and residential requires a fifty foot buffer. [1:24:46, 1:25:06]: And you're able to condition us to an additional twenty-five feet through this process. So we're willing to agree to the twenty-five feet. Part of that is the fencing, which I believe is item six, which talks about the height of a fence. We're open to conversation about the type of that fence. I don't know anything about sound. [1:25:06, 1:25:09]: berries on the highway. But we talked about [1:25:10, 1:25:22]: solid wood fence, fence with slats, different types of fence product today as we were getting prepared for this meeting. So we're we're willing to entertain type of fence to help provide sound barrier to that also. [1:25:23, 1:25:26]: And we're willing to agree that it to the additional 25 feet. [1:25:27, 1:25:29]: Item seven is an item that [1:25:30, 1:25:35]: I need clarification on it stipulates impervious dust-free surface. [1:25:37, 1:25:41]: Impervious means paved. We would prefer not to pave six acres. [1:25:42, 1:25:43]: We would want [1:25:44, 1:25:51]: There are products out there that can provide a dust-free surface. Department of Defense has a um [1:25:52, 1:26:05]: Uh a unicide a unified facility code that approves dust-free applications of different polymers, um some stuff called soil, cement, soil glue, things you you do to the land to make it not [1:26:06, 1:26:10]: Create dust. We would want some clarification. [1:26:10, 1:26:16]: We don't wanna pave it is our only concern. We're more than happy to do what's needed to make it dust free. [1:26:16, 1:26:18]: Um item eight and item nine. [1:26:19, 1:26:27]: um we were in full agreement with. So I'm gonna turn it over to Miss Clark and let her speak on behalf of her and her husband and and their business for a moment. [1:26:29, 1:26:38]: Thank you. Thank you for letting me speak. Um when we purchased this property, we purchased it with a lot of things in mind and being good neighbors was one of them. [1:26:39, 1:26:59]: I don't know if you've seen it, but you can see that there's a lot of trees. The setback in the front, we wouldn't touch those trees. We don't want anybody to know we're storing anything there. We just need the the land to be able to move materials up there that are in excess. We're running out of room. The tractor trailer. [1:26:59, 1:27:11]: trailers I'm not sure where that came from, but we have tractor trailers that come in each day now that have to make that U turn. Nobody asked our permission when that medium was built. It'd probably have been years in planning. [1:27:11, 1:27:31]: So it's an unfortunate thing, but everybody has to U-turn. I've had a couple of people that have had accidents from cars coming over that hill when they're making the turn in the mornings and it's dark. Um but we're trying to be good neighbors with this. We really want to make it work, but we need the storage. And this was a perfect opportunity when we purchased [1:27:31, 1:27:34]: this property because it adjoins ours. [1:27:34, 1:27:39]: And if you have any questions, I'll be glad to answer any of them. I got a question maybe. [1:27:39, 1:27:41]: We have a question by Mr. Blount. [1:27:42, 1:27:44]: Where's the material that [1:27:44, 1:28:04]: is being stored now. Right now it's stacked very high in my yard. And to me that's more of a safety issue for my people. And I'd rather take that material and have it more sorted out and not twenty feet tall. The uh s the thirteen acres that are being purchased [1:28:04, 1:28:11]: But you're saying about six, six and a half that is be gonna be used. Has that already been discussed with Ms. Moore? [1:28:11, 1:28:16]: I think she understands that through the 65%, don't she? Yes. I think so. [1:28:20, 1:28:22]: And we're asking them to change that. [1:28:25, 1:28:33]: The reason I asked that because if you s uh where did a hundred and fifty feet uh fifty foot um fifty feet wood it undisturbed, where did that come from? [1:28:33, 1:28:34]: What we [1:28:37, 1:28:38]: Me for the mic then. [1:28:39, 1:28:59]: The reason why staff initially had recommended greater buffers was because there was so much residential around it. And we already had complaints about the noise. So what we were attempting to do was to give a greater buffer that we hope would have mitigated some of the noise should you approve it. However, when we [1:28:59, 1:29:12]: sat down and talked, they asked if we would be amenable to reducing the 150. So that's why I went from 150 to 75 adjacent to certain areas and then 100 adjacent to certain areas. [1:29:14, 1:29:17]: Are there questions from anyone else? [1:29:19, 1:29:39]: Uh Mr Ford. Yes. I I think in my little simple mind, I guess what it amounts to the the residents around the area, at least from the ones that the couple that have been here are concerned about the noise. Noise from the forklifts picking things up, dropping things down, vehicles, eighteen wheelers coming in there, which you already said there are eighteen wheelers coming in there now. That's why [1:29:39, 1:29:45]: I asked about the buffer is issue, whether or not that was something to work with or not. And uh so [1:29:45, 1:30:05]: That might be helpful. But I guess I got two of the points I wanna make. One is actually for Camilla in this aspect, is that uh we've heard a couple of folks uh come forward said that they w don't want this to happen. You said you got some phone calls. Is there any way that we can have a more extensive uh visit with those communities and get uh yay or nay from [1:30:05, 1:30:20]: from more folks or something like that. Is that possible to do something like that? To to find out whether or not how how much of a smelling is this? I mean we can ask uh both communities to have a HOA and we can, you know, go back out. I mean sure. [1:30:20, 1:30:23]: Right. Can I can I add some [1:30:24, 1:30:24]: Um [1:30:26, 1:30:38]: We reached out to Century Homes or Century Communities that manages Parkside and we were supposed to get an email of who their board board of their HOA was, but we didn't get the email. [1:30:38, 1:30:49]: So we weren't able to find out who that was. We did speak to and I'm gonna look up his name because I did speak to him on the phone twice, um, the head of the board for Lakeview. [1:30:50, 1:30:50]: Um [1:30:51, 1:31:11]: Oh, what what was his name? Doctor Arcot. I did speak to Dr Arcot and it was just a short time frame and and we discussed maybe setting up an informational meeting to kind of talk to them about it, but we weren't able to set that up in time. But you're asking would be w would we be willing to? Would the city be willing to? Who are you you wanting to [1:31:11, 1:31:31]: Well what I'm asking this in a sense um uh it's it's gonna lead into another question or comment I'm gonna ask the the attorney in just a second. I just want to make sure that we make a good solid decision in this aspect. I was just wondering about the amount of folks that are really honestly uh phone calls, got a couple people said no. Okay, yes, but those two three communities [1:31:31, 1:31:44]: You may have what 300 people, 400 people? Just kind of curious. Just a curiosity to make sure that we do the right thing here. I mean it it may be very obvious. It may be very obvious, but just want to double check. Which brings me to another question to Mr. Williams. [1:31:44, 1:31:50]: What's what's the status? We deny it tonight, what happens? We d we postpone it, what happens? What what what options do we have here? [1:31:51, 1:32:11]: You have a number of options. You could table it in in order to allow further discussions, maybe allow the staff to meet with the HOA. If you deny it, then the subject property would not be eligible for rezoning for another year. Okay. So they'd have to wait. And so typically in those situations if it appears [1:32:11, 1:32:31]: appears that there will be a denial, the applicant is given the opportunity to withdraw the application. So that that's basically where we are. So either table it to allow further discussions or I don't know what the will of the council looks like, but again if if it looks like a denial to give them the chance to withdraw it. [1:32:31, 1:32:34]: the custom area. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. [1:32:35, 1:32:55]: Okay. We have um obviously um need to make a decision here whether you want to go forward or you want us to table it until we can um find out how many complaints we're getting from these neighborhoods, that kind of thing. Uh do you all want to have a conversation? We'll give you a moment or two to discuss. [1:32:55, 1:32:56]: Decide what to do. [1:32:58, 1:33:03]: Are there any other comments I have left? Yes. [1:33:04, 1:33:24]: Okay, please go ahead, Mr. Alex. Go ahead. Thank you. I would like to um Mayor Pro Tem um thank you for bringing that up because I would like to actually um because it says eight to five and I do want to make a good decision here. Can we hear from our um city manager? [1:33:24, 1:33:30]: um your thoughts on what you see with this since we've asked our attorney as well. [1:33:30, 1:33:50]: Yeah, it it seemed that um you know there are a number of questions and I think Mayor Prochin Ford mentioned perhaps some further conversations with surrounding residents. Typically, um in zoning cases, if there is an opportunity uh to work with surrounding property owners, in this case the subdivisions, [1:33:50, 1:34:10]: to mitigate uh any potential impacts of the uh zoning item or location, then that would be advisable and uh there would be an opportunity for perhaps the applicant and the residents to come to or to reach [1:34:10, 1:34:30]: some concessions, if you will, on the proposal that might lead to more support from the residents. It may not, but time would allow for an opportunity for further discussions to take place. You are introducing or proposing a a C3 zoning into an area that is primarily residential. [1:34:30, 1:34:36]: Even though it the proposal is to heavily buffer it, um there is the concern about um [1:34:36, 1:34:45]: uh the continued proliferation of non-residential zoning in an area that is primarily residential. [1:34:48, 1:35:00]: Okay. Uh any other comments from the council? Yes. All right, Mr. Alexander. I would remind the council that the staff has recommended denial. [1:35:00, 1:35:05]: It is it is unequivocal denial that has been recommended by staff. [1:35:06, 1:35:26]: We have already been to numerous town halls in the Eagles Landing area and they have told us that they do not want this type of development uh in their area and we need to acquiesce to the will of the people. As someone who lives in the area, I can tell you I if you go on [1:35:26, 1:35:46]: Next door, if you go on social media, if you go in these communities, they will tell you this is not what they want to see in that community. If you're there with them every day, and we we apparently need to spend a little bit more time there because they don't want to see this. I mean it's pretty clear. And we always pot our [1:35:46, 1:36:06]: ourself on listening to the attorney and to the recommendation of staff. Staff recommends denial. I would I would simply say let's move in that direction uh to deny it. I would that's that's the way that I would vote because of the recommendation of staff and where we are now. I would make a motion to deny this request. [1:36:06, 1:36:08]: Um moving forward. [1:36:09, 1:36:13]: We're we're not there yet. Just a minute. Mayor Neil. [1:36:13, 1:36:15]: Uh Miss Gaint. [1:36:16, 1:36:36]: I guess my biggest concern as well, um I concur with Councilman Alexander. Uh m one of my biggest concerns is um that our future land use has stated that the the zoning will be for C one and C two. Um, you know, of course we have moratoriums on certain things in the stores. [1:36:35, 1:36:55]: and things that were listed on C two already. Um so I'm comfortable with what our future land use map is and my largest concern is that it is surrounding these subdivisions and although there may be tractor trailers coming in and out now we would include and increase [1:36:55, 1:37:15]: the amount of tractor trailers and noise along with other heavy equipment if we were to allow this to take place. And I just think that the on that that road by those subdivisions, um I I don't think it's a good idea, so I will be d asking I will be agreeing to deny it based off of staff recognition. [1:37:15, 1:37:16]: Recommendation. [1:37:19, 1:37:20]: Anyone else have a comment? [1:37:22, 1:37:28]: Mr. Attorney, um do you recommend that they have the right to withdraw this at this time? [1:37:28, 1:37:30]: [5851.8, 5857.1]: They can either withdraw, we can table or we can go forward with the with a vote. [1:37:38, 1:37:40]: Before we go forward with the vote. [1:37:41, 1:37:43]: Are you interested in [1:37:43, 1:37:45]: withdrawing it for the moment. [1:37:47, 1:37:52]: I don't think we're interested in withdrawing it. We would be interested in tabling it to [1:37:53, 1:37:57]: allow time to meet with those neighboring subdivisions. [1:37:57, 1:37:58]: And [1:37:59, 1:38:09]: potentially convince them that this is a less impactive use than all of those C2 uses that you have no control that'll have a fifty foot buffer. [1:38:09, 1:38:15]: with you know limited protection from noise and light and sound and everything else. So [1:38:16, 1:38:19]: Our request would be to to table it at this time. [1:38:20, 1:38:38]: Is there a recommendation from the panel to table or allow the applicant to table for the I make a motion to deny. It is not up to the applicant to tell us whether we can table or not. It is up to us to make the recommendation. I make the recommendation to deny this request. [1:38:41, 1:38:42]: Do I hear a sec? [1:38:43, 1:38:43]: Yeah of course. [1:38:44, 1:38:47]: Um Mr. Blount has a question before we go forward. [1:38:48, 1:38:51]: J just so you be clear on what we're doing here. [1:38:51, 1:38:52]: Um [1:38:53, 1:38:57]: If you den if you re withdraw it, you can do your own. [1:38:58, 1:39:01]: analysis of the community. Because at this point [1:39:02, 1:39:10]: It looked like it looked like the vote was gonna be no. But if w you withdraw, you can do your own analysis and then bring it back like this never happened. [1:39:14, 1:39:19]: Okay. Well we would choose to withdraw it, but there's a motion. I don't know that you can interrupt the motion. [1:39:20, 1:39:30]: Is that is that okay? All right, what about we have a motion down here? There hasn't been a second yet. Okay. All right, so the applicant is asking to withdraw. [1:39:30, 1:39:34]: And we are saying yes. Is that correct? Ms. Moore, is that within the [1:39:34, 1:39:53]: You would have to make someone would have to you have to deal with this motion and then someone would have to make a a motion to accept the withdrawal request. Okay. I withdraw my request. All right, you've withdrawn your motion. Is there someone that would s um ask uh to allow them to withdraw? [1:39:53, 1:40:09]: They just withdraw. Uh Miss G I ask that they can withdraw their original. Right. Miss Robinson has asked that the applicant have the uh right to withdraw. Do I hear a second to that? Second. We have a motion and a second to withdraw. [1:40:09, 1:40:11]: Um is there. [1:40:12, 1:40:17]: Point of water. Is that appropriate? I mean they don't that's not how this works, right? I mean [1:40:17, 1:40:24]: I i it's a little bit of semantics, but you're basically uh it's a vote to accept their withdrawal. Okay. Okay? [1:40:25, 1:40:31]: All right, uh any discussion? All right, all in favor of allowing the applicant to withdraw. [1:40:33, 1:40:36]: Okay, it's unanimous. Thank you. Appreciate that. [1:40:45, 1:40:53]: Okay, and just a reminder, we withdrew uh number six earlier. That's been marked off, so we'll go to number seven. [1:40:53, 1:41:08]: And this is going to be our first public hearing on the proposed 2018 budget presented by, I believe, our city manager tonight in the absence of our lead accountant who has had a death in her family. [1:41:09, 1:41:12]: So we'll turn that over to Mr. Randy Knighton. [1:41:15, 1:41:35]: Yes, Mayor and Council. I am here to present to you the proposed 2018 budget. The proposed budget is here located at City Hall and as well is located on the city's website and we certainly encourage any questions from the council. [1:41:35, 1:41:55]: Council and/or the public to be made to uh the city manager's office. We'd be glad to uh entertain any questions from the public regarding the proposed budget. There will be two more hearings uh before the budget uh is uh adopted. Uh bring your attention to just a couple of things uh uh including with the proposed [1:41:55, 1:42:15]: budget is also a proposed organizational chart as well. The budget essentially is and many of the items are carried over from the 2017 budget. There are some differences in terms of some proposals going forward, including a few positions in particular. [1:42:18, 1:42:38]: in particular to address some of the new responsibilities of the City of Stockbridge, including uh the permitting uh that will uh we will assume and have assumed uh from Henry County. Uh obviously there's some personnel support needed there in um uh the planning department as well. [1:42:38, 1:42:58]: as the Public Works Department. I would also mention too that there is a proposal in this budget to request an assistant city manager position. After taking a look and evaluating the organization, this proposal comes forward not only to [1:42:58, 1:43:14]: to prepare for or to handle the present duties of administration and executive branch, but also looking forward in terms of future responsibilities and many of the initiatives that the city hopes to accomplish in the coming years. [1:43:14, 1:43:34]: Um so with that uh I would uh conclude unless there are any questions from the council and certainly I encourage any questions, uh be glad to meet with any council person and members of the public. Uh we want to make sure that the budget as proposed uh is provided clarity um uh to the public. [1:43:34, 1:43:38]: uh as we proceed through the next couple of public hearings. [1:43:40, 1:43:55]: Okay. Um we have heard from our city manager regarding the the uh twenty eighteen budget. This is the first of several readings and presentations of the budget. Do we have any questions from our council at this time? [1:43:58, 1:44:18]: I was waiting I do. Okay, Mr. Alexander. So Mr could you give us a update on where we are in terms of we were supposed to task with doing a competitive survey on what the salaries look like and where we are in that process so we can appropriately budget competitive uh pay. [1:44:18, 1:44:21]: RFP is out now. It is prepared to come back worse. [1:44:22, 1:44:35]: It's already in, right. It's already been received back, so the staff will be evaluating the proposals that'll be received. And I believe that'll actually uh that process in um earnest will begin in December probably after the evaluations are done. [1:44:38, 1:44:40]: Yes. Yes. [1:44:41, 1:45:01]: And secondarily to that I had uh I just wanted for public knowledge I had asked um that we possibly consider um some type of um budgetary item to look at uh what we would do uh for the Eagles Landing community um in the discussions that [1:45:01, 1:45:21]: that we've had with them and uh that has been made public. They had asked for uh the things that they had discussed was maybe having a park in the in the Eagles Landing area, um maybe a library branch, those are the things that they have brought up. Uh we have had uh on our retreat discussion I proposed a South [1:45:21, 1:45:39]: Stockbridge Park which would be in the Eagles Landing area that would take the consensus of the council in order to do so. Uh is there is there is there an opportunity for us to have a discussion could to consider possibly funding a park uh in the Eagles Landing area? [1:45:39, 1:45:59]: Well that's certainly left up to the mayor and council, the council's consideration. Um point of order. Mr. Blount, if you'd like to comment. Yeah, point of order because one of the things that w has been discussed is that we as a council, anything pertaining monetarily or whatever budgeting that we need to do for any community, whether it's though the Eagles Landing area or any area of stop [1:45:59, 1:46:19]: which all all citizens are are important, that those things need to be discussed by council and then brought forward to the public and then voted on. So I think that anything pertaining to any planning that we're going to be doing, pertaining to any budget amendments or any budgeting for any community, any community in the city of Stockbridge, it needs to be done behind closed doors. [1:46:19, 1:46:28]: doors, bring it out to the public, let'em know what we discuss and it's a council as a whole to bring that forward, being transparent with the public and then we vote on it. [1:46:29, 1:46:49]: Okay, we appreciate that comment. Are there other comments from other council members? Mr. Ford. Yes. Yes, uh Randy, listen, on the uh wire diagram here of the organizational chart, it's it it's in yellow, says assistant city manager. Now I I'm my thought process that's not a that's not really a specific just a new position. I thought [1:46:49, 1:47:09]: that would the responsibilities of that citizen manager be tagged to a different to to an already existing position. Is that accurate or not? That is not in the way it is currently proposed. Okay. That is currently proposed as a new position that would provide administrative and executive support and provide some [1:47:09, 1:47:13]: some oversight of certain departments. That is how it is currently proposed. [1:47:15, 1:47:35]: Are there other questions? I'm just thinking, okay, so okay, then I'm I'm maybe I'm off base. I just assumed and I guess I assumed wrong that uh the assistant city manager would be someone that is currently or a position that is currently in the diagram and they would have additional duties in this aspect. [1:47:35, 1:47:41]: for a completely full different individual. All right. And um [1:47:42, 1:47:56]: As at um late and I guess I need to thoroughly read the the job description in this aspect, how that fits in to that, I guess, in a sense. But anyway, I I just uh I assume something differently. Okay. And and certainly Mayor Pro Tem we can have further discussions about that. Thank you. Appreciate it. [1:47:57, 1:47:58]: Yes. [1:47:58, 1:48:14]: Uh Mr. I like saying For clarification, I'm I just want to make sure we're the question was answered. I think Mr. Blount injected, but I want to make sure that the the point is clarified in that it at the will of this council. [1:48:14, 1:48:30]: as a whole we can have a discussion during this budgetary point, whether it's the capital projects or not, about a potential park in the um in the Eagles Landing area if it is the will of the council. Is that correct? [1:48:31, 1:48:36]: Certainly if it's the will of the council you can discuss any particular matter. Thank you. [1:48:36, 1:48:37]: Mr. Blount. [1:48:38, 1:48:41]: I would ask our city attorney, due to what we are [1:48:42, 1:48:52]: dealing with at this time. Would you recommend that we discuss any particular areas, especially those areas of Eagles Landing when it comes to budgeting or those things that we would do as a council? [1:48:53, 1:49:08]: Well everything you do has to be d done as as the will of the entire council. The only thing I would caution you on is if you're looking at a park or anything that would require acquisition of real estate that that be discussed in the executive session. [1:49:08, 1:49:15]: Particular problem. Thank you. Okay. We've heard some discussion. Is there anything else um that we need to do? [1:49:15, 1:49:20]: Anybody have a comment before we close out on the budget presentation? [1:49:21, 1:49:30]: All right, thank you so much Mr. Knighton for that presentation and you'll be bringing more back to us. Uh how many times do we present this to the public? [1:49:31, 1:49:51]: Two more times. So we'll have two more times for the public also to ask questions if they choose to. At this time we're gonna leave the public hearing section of our meeting. We're going into new business. We're going to item number eight. Council consistently. Mayor Neal. Yes, ma'am. We we didn't call for anyone to come [1:49:51, 1:50:07]: forward from the public. Oh, that's a good good point. Thank you for calling that to my attention. If anyone in the audience has any uh negative or positive feelings about the presentation from Mr. Knighton, uh please let that be known at this time. [1:50:10, 1:50:17]: Seeing no hands go up, we will move out of our uh public hearing into our new business. [1:50:18, 1:50:36]: At this time, item number eight, council consideration to approve resolution urging the Georgia General Assembly to oppose deannexation legislation to create new municipalities. This will be presented by our attorney, Michael Williams. [1:50:36, 1:50:56]: Good evening, Mayor and Council. You have in your uh packet a resolution which is identical to the resolution that all the cities in the State of Georgia are adopting relative to the creation of new cities. Um all the cities um are in the process of ad of adopting this resolution. It basically [1:50:56, 1:51:16]: uh calls on the General Assembly not to allow for any new cities that are created using cities or the property of existing cities and it calls on them to do it in a manner consistent with the legislative policies adopted by the the Georgia Municipal Association this past year. [1:51:16, 1:51:30]: summer. So far we've received a number of uh fully adopted resolutions from several of other cities and we would just be doing the same. So we're recommending approval. [1:51:31, 1:51:40]: Okay, uh you've heard the presentation by our attorney, Mr. Williams. Um do uh I hear a motion. So moved. [1:51:41, 1:51:57]: We have a motion. Do I hear second? Second. We have a motion and a second from Mr. Ford. Um is there discussion on this item? Have we yes. I've I've Mr. Gardner of East Point said that they had passed uh the resolution. Have we received theirs yet? We've we have, okay. [1:51:58, 1:52:03]: Okay, we've had that comment made. Any other discussion? [1:52:03, 1:52:06]: If not, all in favor? [1:52:07, 1:52:27]: Okay, thank you for your vote. We're going to now take I'm putting in uh the two items that we amended into the budget. We're going to call them item 8A. That would be the one on the resolution to approve health and wellness vendor Atlanta Health Systems in the amount of um$35,000. [1:52:27, 1:52:27]: [6751.3, 6754.6]: I'll take it if you want me to. [1:52:35, 1:52:40]: Okay. Um Madam uh Mayor [1:52:40, 1:53:00]: When you all adopted the uh health insurance and dental coverage policies earlier in the year, um it was intended that you would have approved the selection of the contractor for the city's wellness program. Um that they weren't specifically named and because the [1:53:00, 1:53:17]: contract exceeds the current ten thousand dollar limitation for the city manager. I recommend it just to cover all of our bases out of an abundance of caution that you all formally approved the city's vendor which is Atlanta Health Systems for the Wellness Program. [1:53:18, 1:53:25]: So this is just uh the more of an administrative step to make sure that you are in agreement as to the vendor. [1:53:26, 1:53:32]: Okay, thank you for that presentation. Do um I hear a motion to move that forward. [1:53:33, 1:53:41]: So move, Mayor. All right, we have a motion by Ms. Gantt. Do I hear a second? Second. We have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion? Yes. [1:53:42, 1:53:53]: Mr. Williams, would it be appropriate at some point for us to consider actually raising that limit back to where we had it previously uh with the new city manager at some point? [1:53:53, 1:53:54]: Um [1:53:55, 1:54:15]: I would in part defer that um to the city manager. I think when you all made the change, I I was on record as saying that the 10,000 was in line with other cities of of our size. Um that's really a judgment call for the council to make in in conjunction with the city manager. I I would defer to whatever y'all decide. [1:54:15, 1:54:16]: [6857.2, 6858.1]: Okay. [1:54:19, 1:54:21]: Okay. Any other discussion? [1:54:22, 1:54:26]: We have a motion. We have a second. Discussion has ended. All in favor? [1:54:28, 1:54:40]: Thank you for the vote. We're going to move on now. We're calling the next item that was amended in 8B Ordinance to Establish Youth Council Advisory Board. [1:54:41, 1:55:01]: Madam Mayor, um in a previous vote of the council, I want to say back in February or March, you all adopted uh or established an ad hoc advisory committee for the youth uh council program. And this was a committee of eight persons who helped you [1:55:01, 1:55:21]: establish the program, develop the curriculum, develop a budget, and they were also responsible for choosing the initial uh participants in the program, which they did. And the program's been up and running for uh well since then. Um in order to address some confusion and to [1:55:21, 1:55:41]: resolve any uh lingering concerns about what the committee is responsible for doing and and what the city council um's relationship with the committee is, it was suggested that we go ahead and formalize the Youth Council Advisory Committee and formally establish [1:55:41, 1:56:01]: a member of the council to serve as a representative of that committee. So what this does by ordinance is it formally creates the youth council advisory committee and I'm just looking at exhibit A. It's just two pages. So it creates it as a nine member committee with eight volunteer members [1:56:01, 1:56:05]: members and then the ninth uh member is a member of the city council. [1:56:06, 1:56:26]: Um this kind of tracks very similarly to the composition or the the uh membership uh provisions of our zoning advisory board. So I just kind of use that as as a model. Um so the members are appointed for two-year terms. Um the terms as it's presented are not staggered. I'm not sure. [1:56:26, 1:56:46]: that that's necessary uh for this um but that's something if if there's one change you might want to make you might want to have staggered terms um members can be removed uh by a vote of the a majority of mayor and council that's similar to all the other boards that you have the primary qualifications is that they be residents [1:56:46, 1:57:02]: of the city of Stockbridge and that they pass a criminal background check. That's consistent with what you have already voted on. Establishes a quorum of five of the nine members is a quorum. It allows them to choose their officers. [1:57:03, 1:57:17]: Then on the next page, they can establish their own meeting schedule, but we ask that they establish at least an annual meeting schedule for purposes of the Open Records Act or Open Meetings Act. [1:57:18, 1:57:38]: They can establish their bylaws, but the bylaws would be subject to approval of the mayor and council. Then the last piece, we kind of lay out what their actual duties are, because I know there's been some confusion as to what does the youth advisory committee do. Uh so there are really three things. [1:57:38, 1:57:47]: And the first is they prepare and recommend for adoption each year by the City of Stockbridge a curriculum and a budget for the youth council program. [1:57:47, 1:57:52]: Second thing is they review, evaluate, and select youth candidates for participation in the program. [1:57:53, 1:57:58]: And a third is that they monitor and provide oversight of the youth council program throughout the year. [1:57:58, 1:58:18]: Um and then it provides for staff, the city staff is authorized to provide information and to assist the youth council advisory committee. That's just a general authorization. It's not specific about uh particular people. So the intent of this is to kind of formalize the youth council advisory committee. [1:58:18, 1:58:38]: It's also suggested that we just as a formality you reappoint all eight of the current serving members and then the ordinance provides that Councilwoman Neat Robinson who has already been working the most uh the closest with the committee be named as the council representative. So [1:58:38, 1:58:51]: This was done in consultation with several members of the uh mayor and council uh along with um city manager. We kind of met together to discuss what would be a a good way to [1:58:52, 1:59:01]: you know, to clarify what the intent of the youth council advisory committee would be. So this is our recommendation for approval by the mayor and council. [1:59:02, 1:59:15]: Okay, thank you for that presentation. Do I hear a motion to accept the uh ordinance to establish youth council advisory board? Do I hear a motion? Have a motion. Do I hear a second? [1:59:16, 1:59:22]: So a motion second for Mr. Blount. Is there any discussion on this? Mayor. [1:59:22, 1:59:25]: Yes ma'am. [1:59:25, 1:59:26]: Um [1:59:27, 1:59:47]: Not that I'm against it. I'm just not prepared to vote on it tonight because we just got it tonight. I do have a couple of questions in regards to it. Um for the sake of time, I really don't wanna ask a bunch of questions tonight and have to do due diligence and look at other the way other youth councils are are ran and re [1:59:47, 2:00:05]: regards to whether or not they, you know, have the border or all those different types of things. Not that I'm um disagreeing with it. I just I'm not comfortable tonight voting on it. I I just don't know. I there's m I wanna a I have some questions about it. That's all. [2:00:06, 2:00:12]: Okay, we have a motion and we have a second. We've had discussion. Any other discussion? [2:00:13, 2:00:15]: If not, all in favor? [2:00:16, 2:00:16]: Mm-hmm. [2:00:17, 2:00:20]: Okay, it's a 4-1 vote. Thank you so much. [2:00:21, 2:00:22]: Abstain. [2:00:24, 2:00:27]: Okay. At this time uh we're gonna [2:00:28, 2:00:48]: Uh let me ask uh a question of our attorney and our clerk real quick. Is it out of would it be out of order if I'd uh skip down to one item in discussion and um take care of that so we can let one of our folks in our audience who's been here all night waiting to make probably [2:00:48, 2:01:01]: Maybe just a few comments. Everybody okay with that? In that case we're gonna call up Mr. Steve Cash to come and tell us some good news about the Leader in Me program. [2:01:12, 2:01:14]: Good evening. [2:01:15, 2:01:28]: Now I don't go to bed that early. I'm not that old. I'm aging. But I could have hung in there with y'all. Uh thank you so much. Uh thank you, Councilman, for allowing me to be on the agenda tonight. Absolutely. [2:01:28, 2:01:29]: Um [2:01:30, 2:01:31]: Mayor Neil [2:01:32, 2:01:32]: Uh [2:01:33, 2:01:35]: Councilman Ford, congratulations. [2:01:35, 2:01:44]: Uh [2:01:44, 2:01:45]: Ms. Robinson. [2:01:46, 2:01:52]: And Mr. Blount, thank you so much for allowing me to to to address you on this tonight. Uh as you know [2:01:53, 2:02:06]: Um I guess a couple of months ago I came to before you requesting that you consider again allowing uh fifty five hundred dollars to come to the Leader in Me uh initiative at Cotton Indian Elementary School. [2:02:06, 2:02:17]: Uh I'm back again. I understand that this is the time that uh uh during this budget session when y'all recommended me to come back uh to talk further on that. So [2:02:18, 2:02:26]: If okay, I'm gonna to uh make this pretty short. It's gonna be to the point and uh you're gonna be uh delighted what you see. [2:03:01, 2:03:05]: And Mr. Thomas, congratulations. Uh we'll see you coming back. [2:03:09, 2:03:29]: What you have before you in your file are three documents. One is a letter I just recently sent to the school board and to the new school superintendent. The second document uh is an analysis of the last our 2016 CC RPI test, and I'll tell you more about that. And then the first [2:03:29, 2:03:33]: final document which is uh two pages uh [2:03:36, 2:03:42]: is the actual documents that depict the scores for all Henry County elementary schools. [2:03:47, 2:03:55]: We'll st we'll start off and I'm gonna just read that letter to you so I don't uh vary too much off a subject, which I tend to do sometimes. [2:03:56, 2:04:13]: Here County Board of Education members, our pilot leader in May School, Cotton Indian Elementary School, ended its downward spiral and increased its CCRPI score. CCRPI uh stands for College and Career Readiness Performance Index. [2:04:14, 2:04:30]: from a system wide low of fifty-two point three, which is failing, to almost pass at fifty-nine point nine after dropping six points uh last year. This barely missed our goal set at eight points to pass for the first time since twenty fourteen. [2:04:31, 2:04:39]: Wishing someone could have uh s found one tenth of a point would have been very helpful to to get that pass and score. [2:04:39, 2:04:56]: While not achieving their goal scoring a 7.6 increase, we are so very proud of Principal Lisa Travis, Kayla Holmes, Assistant Principal, and the CE teachers and staff for commitment and ability to reverse their unacceptable trend. [2:04:58, 2:05:10]: Miss Travis, a thirty-three year veteran, was just promoted to principal when she was transferred to Cotton Inion Elementary in twenty fourteen. This is not too bad, not too shabby. After moving it up from last [2:05:11, 2:05:21]: to 10th and third grade milestones ELA developing and above results, 23rd to 5th ELA proficient and above. [2:05:21, 2:05:25]: Math developing and above from twenty-third to fifth. [2:05:25, 2:05:45]: and math proficient above from 22nd to 5th, we knew a change was coming on the CCRPI. Cotton Indian Elementary had the fifth highest CC RPI increase in the district. Not to forget that Cotton Indian had 115 discipline occurrences for the first two months of 2016. [2:05:45, 2:05:52]: while experiencing only fourteen the first two months of twenty seventeen. What a difference that is. [2:05:55, 2:06:04]: After you review the analysis, uh you will see that the district has four failing schools and five within just a few points of failing the most recent CCRPI. [2:06:04, 2:06:24]: Franklin Covey has requested that we apply to a known leadership foundation for grants that would pay the bulk of the cost to implement the Leader and Me in four or five of these schools. We're talking about$80,000 plus awarded to each school. Our organization attempted to facilitate this last year with seven schools. [2:06:24, 2:06:44]: in the north end of the county, but could not get any interest from uh key personnel at the school board. So we try again. We have two weeks to apply and we have someone that could assist us in the application process. You have any thoughts, I asked. If anything, we could go ahead and apply. Uh we would have one year to implement [2:06:44, 2:06:55]: if awarded. It would take each school about two hours to complete the app. I know there are principals, especially on the north end of the county, that would welcome these this initiative. [2:06:56, 2:07:15]: So I'm not gonna read the rest of the letter letter. What what I was asking the school board is to consider recognizing Cotton Indian elementary staff on what they've been able to do in just a short one and a half year uh through implementation of the leader in me. So you go to the second document. [2:07:21, 2:07:26]: And again, Stoppridge Elementary is not included due to its a K through third grade. [2:07:27, 2:07:36]: third grade status. So the next three lines it tells you uh in those particular years fifteen, sixteen and seventeen [2:07:38, 2:07:45]: First being twenty fifteen showing forty-eight percent, thirteen out of twenty-seven elementary scored D or less. [2:07:47, 2:07:49]: Of the thirteen scored F. [2:07:49, 2:07:59]: And then 2016, 67%, 18 or 17 elementary schools scored D or less of the 13 to scored F. [2:08:00, 2:08:11]: And then this last uh year, 56%, 15 out of 27 elementary school schools scored D or less in 2017. Of the 15, four scored F. [2:08:13, 2:08:33]: So the next line, failure below sixty or four schools, Cotton Indian, Oakland, Walnut Creek, and Tussahall. Uh remembering Cotton Indian, uh after going down uh six points year before last, they came back up almost eight points. So the bleeding has stopped there big time. So within five points of four. [2:08:33, 2:08:42]: failing are Wesley Lake, Smith Barnes, Unity Grove, Locust Grove, Red Oak. They scored D. They're let they're within five points of failing. [2:08:43, 2:08:50]: And drop one letter grade or Austin Road, Warnock Creek, Rock Springs, Red Oak, Tussahow, New Hope, Oakland, Rocky Creek. [2:08:52, 2:08:58]: Turn the page over, you'll see those who dropped in score, which are thirteen schools by by percentage points. [2:09:00, 2:09:07]: And then the next uh grouping has twelve schools uh who inc increase their scores by percentage points. [2:09:10, 2:09:11]: So [2:09:12, 2:09:21]: Under that, you go to the next line and it shows you 2016-17, how many A's were made, how many B's, no A's were made. [2:09:22, 2:09:35]: from all the twenty-seven schools, three Bs, nine Cs, and eleven D's and four F's. And you can uh uh look at those in fifteen and sixteen and fourteen and seventeen and compare those. [2:09:39, 2:09:40]: On the final page [2:09:41, 2:09:42]: Documents. [2:09:47, 2:09:48]: Yeah. [2:09:48, 2:10:08]: includes the complete list of the schools and that first page includes uh those schools that uh represent the uh probably the Stockbridge area. I'm not sure if any uh Henry County or Stockbridge residents go to Woodland or maybe there's another school or two there that you can identify that Stockbridge uh city students do not go to. But that [2:10:08, 2:10:14]: That includes all the scores uh from from uh twenty twelve. [2:10:16, 2:10:20]: through twenty seventeen on the CCRPI exams. [2:10:22, 2:10:25]: So without any further [2:10:25, 2:10:28]: time I'm going to turn it back over to you. [2:10:28, 2:10:29]: Mayor. [2:10:30, 2:10:43]: Yes, Ms. Robinson. Thank you, Mayor. Um, I just want to let everyone on the panel and our guests know that I sit on this board for the Leader in Me program, so I would need to recuse myself for any discussion or a vote. [2:10:45, 2:10:47]: Uh yes, Mr. Blount has a question. [2:10:48, 2:10:50]: Good, how you doing? [2:11:02, 2:11:22]: I'm sorry my microphone went off. Give me looking for those um um reports or anything that's because I think you would you're here tonight because uh you was maybe been solicited by Mr. Alexander, but prior to that to get some kind of um something from you all showing uh the progress of [2:11:22, 2:11:27]: what's going on at Cotton Indian Elementary because uh when I look at [2:11:29, 2:11:49]: The leader in me, and I've talked to several principals and and uh Title I instructors that are in the schools, um, and we we talk about programs like the PBIS program, which uh Fairview was the um um pilot school for that, and I've seen the PBIS program grow uh and there are components in the PBI. [2:11:48, 2:11:55]: program that that are that they're implementing from different other uh programs. [2:11:56, 2:11:58]: What I'm trying what I'm getting at is that [2:11:59, 2:12:06]: The consensus from all the other schools was a component of sustainability through finances with Leader and me. [2:12:08, 2:12:28]: And when I look at take for instance in Stockbridge, the reason you don't show a showing for Stockbridge Elementary is because Smith Barnes, when you look at the stats or the increase, Smith Barnes and Stockbridge Elementary are combined as one elementary school in which we look at it. They're kind of they're actually on a upward, upward bound. [2:12:27, 2:12:47]: When I look at the sta Scott Scottin Union was uh graded around the lower as one of the lower schools when it came to grades. And so if the concern is there then we I I would like to have seen some some kind of evidence of of of progress or something given to the council because we have [2:12:47, 2:13:07]: given funding to uh leader and me. And this not to discount leader me by any means in turn, but as as a as taxpayer funds go, we need, you know, I I would like I would like to have seen something from you all prior to being solicited to come. This something to show the uh us that what [2:13:07, 2:13:16]: what what leader me is actually doing. I I I'm sorry, I I I I think I don't un I I probably don't understand any question because what I just shared with you is nothing but [2:13:17, 2:13:37]: climbing from last to fifth in math proficiency, uh climbing the last to fifth to English language arts. Uh uh discipline occurrences for the first two months last year compared to this year down eighty eight percent. C C R P I score going up almost eight percent. I don't know what else [2:13:37, 2:13:57]: that I can give give you. But with all due respect, Mr. Cash, what I'm saying is is that these schools that you're talking about, even Cotton Indian, uh, they have mentoring programs come in, they have other entities coming in. So to show that you're proficient and and that you have that leader in me is proficient in in in making this [2:13:57, 2:14:00]: i in making these things happen. [2:14:01, 2:14:21]: I would think that we would get something tangible from you showing the progression of what's going on in the schools because we can say that it can be a culmination of things, but actually those programs that are being funded, that we would get something from t to the council showing since we have fun done some funding for you to show that the parts of this that's a [2:14:21, 2:14:40]: that are viable, this is why we are viable with these efforts because leader and me are are doing this or doing that and show something to us because we it could be a combination of things that make that that that's which is a good thing that's up in there, you know, getting the grace up. But I'm saying that if there's a commitment from the city [2:14:40, 2:14:45]: for any funding to any entity we would like to see anything of progression [2:14:45, 2:14:59]: of of what what the funding is doing. I I don't know how to to answer that with respect to m Mr. Cash, let me jump in here and say I think that um the reason maybe Mr. Blount is not um [2:14:59, 2:15:19]: He he needs more information. He hasn't seen it visually with his own eyes like a lot of people have. And I would suggest that maybe you invite Mr. Blount to come over uh working with the principal and sit in on one of the uh school council meetings and or a tour uh like some of us have been [2:15:19, 2:15:39]: own to see the improvement in the children and I think that would be a real good thing that m Mr. Blount loves the kids and is very active at Stockbridge Elementary and I think he will be blown away when he sees the improvement on discipline and the leadership skills of the kids and maybe that [2:15:39, 2:15:47]: would be helpful. So maybe the whole council might like to go. I can speak for myself. [2:15:47, 2:16:04]: When I go get my car worked on and I get a itemize of what they did, all I know need to know is my car is running. And so when it's running, but I get a itemize of what they what they've done. And that's all I'm saying. I don't need to be a cotton Indian to to to to see what's going on. These are the chief indicators that every school goes by. [2:16:04, 2:16:24]: Every school goes by these indicators here. It's a state report card. At this point, what I'm saying is uh Mr. Cash right here, what I'm saying is is that when you have Stockbridge Elementary and Smith Bourns that are heading in an upward position that are not a part of leader me. And so I'm looking at the PBIS PBIS program that are [2:16:24, 2:16:37]: and the mentoring programs that are going through these schools. And what I be what I'm saying may not be popular with the mayor nor yourself, but what I'm saying is is that the consensus that I'm getting from the the schools is the financial commitment [2:16:37, 2:16:57]: that PB that the leader in me requ uh is asking for versus those schools that are progressing that don't have the leader in me, but they do have other mentoring programs and PBIS that are entangled in it. And so I don't need to be at the school to know what's going on. Well the the the the principal, Lisa Travis, she she attributes the whole turnaround in the culture [2:16:57, 2:16:58]: to later in May. [2:17:00, 2:17:11]: Mayor Neil. She and also the we have a a hard working board and our board of directors they committed and paid for over fifty thousand dollars. [2:17:13, 2:17:15]: From their own pockets for this to work. [2:17:15, 2:17:18]: The only only funding public funding that came [2:17:19, 2:17:33]: toward this initiative was from the fifty five hundred last year from y'all. And uh as far as ongoing, uh once Leader to Me is in the school, it's in the school forever as long as the Board of Education allows it to be. Uh so [2:17:35, 2:17:38]: As far as as as as money [2:17:39, 2:17:47]: Um in the future going to Cotton India there won't be any. And so as far as public money coming from from the city of Macdonald. [2:17:48, 2:17:52]: This all goes toward uh future schools also. So [2:17:53, 2:18:13]: Uh Ms. Gantt. Mr. Cash, thank you for your hard work and efforts to help improve the school system. Um I guess uh my question is, where is the Hamburg County Board of Education on this? What type of support is the leader of me receiving from that billion dollar budget that they have and and what are [2:18:12, 2:18:26]: the leader me future plans. We're we're not getting any support per se. We've we're we've gotten some uh thank yous for doing this, but there's not been any uh uh uh personal uh besides Ms. Edwards. [2:18:26, 2:18:39]: personal that away that a way to go or there's not many uh individual monetary offers toward uh leader and me from any of the board of members. Uh we didn't have uh [2:18:40, 2:18:55]: Uh through administration the last couple of years we've not had a lot of support uh from them from them either. But here we go. We've changed the school round, we've changed the culture and we've paid for it and we've gotten results. So [2:18:56, 2:18:57]: We're not stopping. [2:18:59, 2:19:00]: Thank you. [2:19:00, 2:19:04]: Any other questions? Yes. Mr. Alexander. [2:19:04, 2:19:24]: Uh Mr. Cass, I just want to thank you for just being a dynamic, caring citizen and activist in the community that rolled up your sleeves when you saw a problem and you dove in. I'm sitting here looking at the same information that you just presented. [2:19:24, 2:19:33]: The college and career readiness is the grading scale every school in Georgia is graded on. [2:19:34, 2:19:54]: You have brought to us documents indicating a significant increase in a calendar years uh increase on this particular program. Uh the reason that I'd invited Mr. Cash to uh attend the meeting tonight is because you know overall [2:19:54, 2:20:00]: looking at our cities and and looking at Henry County in general, this is the stopbridge city council. [2:20:02, 2:20:12]: We're accountable for the s to the citizens of Stockbridge. Stockbridge has some of the lowest performing schools in the system. [2:20:12, 2:20:20]: As a council, we have an opportunity with demonstrated results to impact [2:20:20, 2:20:32]: schools in our ca in our city tremendously with a program that has shown success not just at Cotton Indian El Elementary but all throughout America. [2:20:32, 2:20:35]: We can say that the school system [2:20:36, 2:20:56]: who with all due respect uh is working and they have a a large budget, but that budget has not generated the results here uh in the city of Stockbridge. Uh t uh in terms of us, if we decide to implement this program as a council [2:20:56, 2:21:16]: as a whole. Uh could you talk about what do you expect similar results at the other schools and uh talk about the Stockbridge situation. What i i'm with the best knowledge that you have right now, would they be on this list too if they were create or what if they had all of the grades would they be on [2:21:16, 2:21:27]: on this list too. Um would they be on the failing list too? Or or right there at it. It it'd be hard to determine that with Stour Ridge Elementary you're talking about. [2:21:28, 2:21:33]: I'm sorry. Yes, that's good. Since since the one first threat grade through third grade [2:21:33, 2:21:48]: I I couldn't answer that to to be to be it i i I know that Smith Barnes is not doing so well. However they did they did pull it up a few points. But they're still within five points of failing. Um schools um [2:21:49, 2:22:09]: across America are initiating this and it's by Franklin Cobray's teaching seven habits of highly successful people. Schools all over America are are are changing their culture from being uh uh negative to positive to being uh defeated to [2:22:09, 2:22:10]: successful. [2:22:10, 2:22:11]: Um [2:22:12, 2:22:15]: When when businesses and new [2:22:16, 2:22:24]: residents look at a community, one of the first things they ask about or hire your schools. They look directly at the CCRPI scores. [2:22:25, 2:22:36]: If I wanted to move to Henry move to Stockbridge or if I wanted to move uh a business to Stockbridge and have my employees live close here, and I'm talking about a good business, a big business. [2:22:36, 2:22:48]: I wouldn't want my kids to go to these schools. Why would I want to put my kids in a failing school? Why would I want my put my keys in an inf kids in an inferior school? So businesses now are looking at private schools. [2:22:49, 2:23:00]: when they are looking at a targeting an area. So that's what I want to do. I've been here in in North Henry all my life. I've been in Stalbridge all my life. I don't want to let our schools defeat our community. [2:23:01, 2:23:05]: That's why my board and I have worked so hard. [2:23:05, 2:23:06]: To do something. [2:23:09, 2:23:10]: We're just asking your help. [2:23:11, 2:23:13]: A a follow up if I could. [2:23:13, 2:23:33]: That's a follow-up. Oh, sorry. With with with with the number I saw your presentation at the Board of Commissioners uh meeting, and that's what prompted me to invite you here. And the numbers were very good. I'm encouraged by what I'm seeing today. Now you also um uh uh work with the uh Henry C council for [2:23:33, 2:23:53]: quality growth. Talk about how this affects the real estate market and the numbers that you talked about in terms of housing permits being down and how how is that affecting the city of Stockbridge compared to let's say if you live in a a different district where the schools are better? [2:23:53, 2:24:01]: All right, we'll compare it to Ola or Union Grove. Mm-hmm. Everybody wants to live in the Ola Ola Union Grove areas. And why is that? [2:24:01, 2:24:03]: Go to school. [2:24:05, 2:24:06]: They have the best schools. [2:24:07, 2:24:08]: And that's not just [2:24:09, 2:24:11]: for Henry County, that that happens everywhere. [2:24:12, 2:24:20]: That happens everywhere. I wanna put I wanna locate in a lo in a place where my kids can get the best education. [2:24:21, 2:24:24]: Okay, we've got another question from Mr. Blount. [2:24:25, 2:24:37]: Mr. Cash, trust me, the work that you're doing, I definitely appreciate it. Anything you do, anything that anyone does for our kids. As a council member, because you've done a presentation with the commissioners, [2:24:37, 2:24:40]: Yet you haven't got any funding from the county. Is that correct? [2:24:41, 2:24:59]: No, but there's some individual uh commissioners that are giving. And you said even the school with uh the school board, their budget that they have, yet you've got no uh commitment from the school board. No. So this is w as a as a s as an elected official at the city of Stockbridge. [2:25:00, 2:25:20]: When we start to look at those things that are in the county, whether it's for our kids or anyone, I'm for our children, we have to look at when we cross over the line in budgeting those things that that the county should be budgeting. [2:25:20, 2:25:40]: should be budgeting it. It should be flourishing. It should be as successful as it can be. So don't don't don't look at me that I'm good. I'm only saying as an elected official, I caution myself without public input on any projects that we do that would cross the line from the city of Stockbridge into the county projects that should be funded by the [2:25:40, 2:25:41]: the county. [2:25:41, 2:26:01]: And these stats are showing, then I would solicit that those people that are at Cotton Indian, when you sit down with that principal, say have those those uh parents to go down and say, hey, this thing is successful. Why aren't you fun funding it? Go to those uh instead of me going to Cotton Indian, have the people at Cotton Indian go down to the school board and say, hey, my child. [2:26:01, 2:26:06]: is learning. I don't want to see this removed. Those are the people that should get involved. [2:26:07, 2:26:27]: You you see what I'm saying? Oh we're not gonna have it removed from Cotton Indiana. We're good there. We're just trying to get it in additional schools. And uh we do have a new school board uh administrator, superintendent. Uh she's come from Cobb County and she's familiar with Leader Me. They have ten Leader Me schools in Cobb County. So we do have a breath of fresh air that we're gonna be speaking with on. [2:26:27, 2:26:29]: I think you'll see some difference there. [2:26:30, 2:26:50]: But I I I hear you. I hear you. Mr. Forward. Yeah, Mr. Cass, on that note, um, and referencing new superintendent, hopefully that'll be put some new br uh breath into the the process with the school system will possibly help out. But you're looking for fifty five hundred dollars if I got this right, sometime between now where we prove it tonight or later, sometime before the end of the school, excuse me, end of the fiscal year. Yes. [2:26:49, 2:27:00]: implement for next calendar year, is that correct? That's correct. Mr. Knighton, if if we were going to do that, where would that come?'Cause right now I don't think it's even programmed in our budget at this point. Is that correct? [2:27:01, 2:27:02]: Where would that fifty five hundred dollars come from? [2:27:03, 2:27:05]: If we did it. We decided to do that. [2:27:05, 2:27:11]: Do you have any idea? I don't I know I just asked the question, so I don't know if I caught you off guard. I'm sorry about that. I'm just kinda curious. [2:27:14, 2:27:19]: General fund type stuff here. That would have to come from general fund, somewhere in general fund. Uh-huh. [2:27:20, 2:27:30]: And how would that uh how would that adjust? You have to adjust the if we did s did that that would have to adjust the budget and and something like that to make that happen. If we decided to do that. Okay. [2:27:31, 2:27:51]: Alrighty. And thank you, sir. And back to you, Mr. Cass. So in reference to the new superintendent, you have any idea when you may we'll make a presentation to that superintendent and the rest of those board members about uh possibly them getting on board on this? You have any idea when you may do that? We're working on that now. That letter went out uh th last Thursday. Uh-huh. And the new [2:27:51, 2:28:11]: superintendent just started I think it was Wednesday she was sworn in so she knows that we're we're we're ready to meet with her as soon as possible. She already knows. I wish you suspected that'd be helpful that'd be helpful for us yeah in making this type of decision uh if if they step up to the board and you know hit that ball down there and and give you some money some funding. But anyway thank you. [2:28:11, 2:28:12]: Yeah. [2:28:13, 2:28:33]: Thank you, Mr. Cash. As always. Thank you. I appreciate each and every one of you. I really do. I I know that you're a progressive crew. I I know that you have a wide, wide vision, not narrow vision, to see what needs to come to Henry County, especially our north end. Thank you so much. Thanks, sir. Thank you. Okay, we're gonna go back now to item nine. [2:28:33, 2:28:41]: So uh council consideration to approve development projects policy presented by our attorney Michael Williams. [2:28:42, 2:29:02]: Madam Mayor, um you may wish uh to table this because it's my fault you don't have a written document in front of you, but uh there's some been some discussion about um what we can do to help avoid any inadvert inadvertent release of information pertaining to development projects or to avoid any [2:29:02, 2:29:22]: the undue political involvement in the development process and that pertains not only to our mayor and council but elected officials from other jurisdictions. And so what was discussed with having a policy that essentially says this, that the city staff is directed not to release any information to council members pertaining [2:29:22, 2:29:42]: to pending development applications or development inquiries unless a vote on such matters is required of the mayor and council. In such cases all information shall be relayed to the entire mayor and council concurrently. So that's in a nutshell what the policy would do. I know you don't have it written in front of you, but if you can vote essentially on that direction. [2:29:42, 2:29:48]: or if you want to see it in writing and vote on it at the next council meeting, we'd be happy to do that for you. [2:29:48, 2:29:50]: What what are your wishes, Council? [2:29:52, 2:29:53]: I would like to move on. [2:29:54, 2:30:05]: Okay, we have uh at least one person who's interested in moving forward on that. Um so let me let me ask this. Uh do I have a motion to move forward? [2:30:07, 2:30:16]: I motion that we move forward with uh getting uh if we have a discussion on it to have a better understanding of what your what it encompasses. I I [2:30:17, 2:30:27]: Regret that we don't have uh anything in our packet today. It was uh but I would like to uh if we have any questions pertaining to it, to find out get in more detail what we uh discussing here. [2:30:29, 2:30:33]: I tell you what, I'll second that for the time being. I'll second that. Let's second the motion. [2:30:34, 2:30:34]: All right. [2:30:35, 2:30:37]: Okay, do we have any discussion? [2:30:37, 2:30:38]: Oh she made [2:30:39, 2:30:41]: No, no, what's the motion? [2:30:42, 2:30:43]: The motion is that we move forward. [2:30:43, 2:30:46]: He made a motion to move forward. [2:30:47, 2:30:47]: But [2:30:47, 2:30:51]: To to be clear, would that be to adopt that directive? [2:30:54, 2:31:08]: I'm putting the motion out that we move forward for the discussion on it because you don't have anything in our packet. Um I don't I wouldn't want us to move forward with any th for us voting on it until w everybody has a clear understanding of what we're discussing. That's fair. [2:31:09, 2:31:20]: So could we call that we're gonna table it and you're gonna bring it back to us? Yeah. Could we just remove that motion and you just [2:31:20, 2:31:40]: have informed us and you'll be back with it at the next meeting. Yes ma'am is that good? Is everybody okay with the second he withdraws his motion? Okay. So be it. Okay, that's just tabled. Okay. Uh number ten, council consideration to fill vacancies on the planning commission, formally known as the zoning advisory board. This will be present [2:31:40, 2:31:44]: Presented by Camilla Moore, Community Development Director. [2:31:44, 2:31:45]: Maybe. [2:31:47, 2:31:52]: Because that is a motion to table, right? To eleven twenty eight item to be heard. We have a first and a second. [2:31:54, 2:31:57]: Okay, do y'all want to consider it that way or do we need that motion? [2:31:58, 2:32:03]: really don't need that. We will bring it back whether uh it sounds like that's what your will is. [2:32:04, 2:32:13]: And you were willing to withdraw your motion. Well the motion wasn't to approve or disapprove, just to move forward with discussion. So it wasn't uh it wasn't in the motion to pack to uh approve or disapprove. [2:32:13, 2:32:33]: Everybody okay, the motion's gone away. Y'all have taken off the table, okay? And it's uh tabled at the do at the direction of the council until we hear back from our attorney at our next meeting. Okay, so Ms. Moore, lead us on to item number 10. [2:32:33, 2:32:35]: [9155.2, 9175.2]: As relates to the ZAB Planning Commission, as you know, Dr. Hannah has um gone on to Germany uh and we have her vacancy, but when I looked at the composition of the board, there really should have been six and you only had five. So what I'm asking Mayor and Councillor to do is to approve two vacancies. Um and the next [2:32:55, 2:33:12]: names that I bring before you I've looked at the resumes and we really thank everybody that sent in their resumes and hopefully we can put some of these folks on a new board, Board of Appeals that I will bring it to you. But the two names that I bring before you tonight is Mr. Harold Thibodeau and Kimberly Braggs. [2:33:14, 2:33:18]: What was the last name of Kimberly? Bragg's B-R-A-G-G. [2:33:19, 2:33:20]: And um [2:33:21, 2:33:35]: At the next meeting, I'm gonna bring to Mayor and Council, consider staggered terms so that the board members will serve a certain number of years that will coincide with your election cycle. So to be f [2:33:35, 2:33:37]: Three and three. Mayor. [2:33:38, 2:33:40]: With an effective date started in January. [2:33:41, 2:33:43]: Three names here. I'm sorry, ma'am. [2:33:43, 2:34:03]: We can uh there's two vacancies and those are the two that I'm bringing forward in terms of a recommendation and hopefully the third person will be on the new board of appeals that we will bring forward. Okay. Um please tell Mr. Blount just one second. You have two vacancies. [2:34:03, 2:34:23]: And you've brought us two names, but you also want to add a six position. No ma'am, right now your board is made of five when it should constitute six. I don't know how you ended up with five, but your your ZAB should have been six all the time. So you've always been one short. [2:34:23, 2:34:37]: Dr. Hannah left that took you down to four. So what I'm asking you tonight is to replace Dr. Hannah and the position that you should have had in the first place to bring it back up to six where it should have been in the first place. [2:34:37, 2:34:44]: Okay. Okay. I think is everybody on with that? Okay. Do we have a motion to [2:34:45, 2:34:49]: You're gonna make a motion. [2:34:49, 2:34:56]: The council consideration to fill the vacancies with the recommendations from Ms. Camilla Moore on the uh planning commission. [2:34:57, 2:35:14]: My second. Okay, we have a motion and a second to uh fill vacancies on the planning and com um planning commission and we've heard those names, uh Harold Thibodeau and Kim Kimberly Bratt. Bragg, B-R-A-G-G is. Oh Bragg, I'm sorry. [2:35:15, 2:35:18]: And do we have a second? [2:35:18, 2:35:26]: To the motion. We have um motion and a second. A second. Okay, so sorry. [2:35:27, 2:35:31]: Okay. All right. Uh and do we have any discussion? [2:35:32, 2:35:52]: Yes. Is there pro it might be appropriate to take all three of'em just to have a alternate alternate or something at this point? Well we we only have two, but what I would like to do I noticed that when you brought over your ZAB, you didn't bring over Board of Appeals. Um and so I would like to create that Board of Appeals to actually deal with the appeal. [2:35:52, 2:36:12]: when someone don't like what the planning commission has done and don't necessarily like what you've done, um, to actually have another board. And what I would like to do is the third person, Mr. Wilburn, uh to be one of those to be considered for that Board of Appeals. Good follow-up. I it's I mean it's I guess how the I thought we were the appeals process. [2:36:12, 2:36:32]: So why would mean well actually it doesn't. It doesn't really speak to that. That was one of the things that me and Mr. Williams looked at. And the re in most jurisdictions, traditionally, your appeals board is an independent body because while you have the file authority, you're asking someone to appeal back to you who [2:36:32, 2:36:52]: Have just made a decision. So, for instance, if I bring you a case and you deny it, you're now asking the applicant to come back before you after you've already denied it. Whereas a separate appeals board, let's say that the planning commission denied it and you denied it, it gives an independent body of individuals that they can go before. [2:36:52, 2:36:59]: before to actually hear the appeal. I'm just a little confused maybe. Why would I want to does this board have the power to [2:37:00, 2:37:16]: change the direction of the council or is it after we've made a decision? In in the zoning the state actually gives a part of state charters and governing bodies an appeal board that can actually hear appeals. [2:37:18, 2:37:25]: I I'm not for allowing some counsel to be able to over other well, I'd like for us to be the final step. I mean [2:37:26, 2:37:46]: Well, I mean again, you can make yourself the final step, but again, if I brought a case to you tonight and you denied it, you're asking me to come back before you to appeal it to you. Now if you've already denied it unless something's really changed, you're gonna overwrite your own decision. Is there's nothing to say that you can't do it, count? [2:37:46, 2:38:06]: I'm just saying traditionally and typically you have an independent body of individuals. And there are only certain things that they can appeal now. Let me clarify that. It's it's not that they can appeal everything. They what they're limited to, they're limited to what they can appeal. Okay, hold on just a minute. [2:38:06, 2:38:17]: a question down here from Ms. Gan. I I just recommend that we talk about other uh appeal process and all that later. If we can just go to the motion and go on to the next thing on the agenda, that would be great. [2:38:17, 2:38:18]: Mr. Blank. [2:38:18, 2:38:38]: No, that's that was it. I'm just wanted to stick to the item we're okay. We've heard the motion in the second. We've had obviously a long discussion. Uh we have the two names, Mr. Harold Thibodeau, Kimberly Bragg, uh to fill these vacancies on the Planning Commission. Uh with no further discussion, all in favor. [2:38:40, 2:39:00]: All right, thank you for your vote. Now then we're going to move on to item 11, Council consideration to approve uh the Stockbridge 2017 LMIG project qualities, um, quantities, sorry, splice for$69300,438. [2:39:00, 2:39:12]: And G Dot for$265,676.20. This will be presented by our public works director, Defus Aaron. [2:39:12, 2:39:32]: Uh Mayor O'Neill and Council, I'm coming before you tonight asking you to approve the actual list of 2018. You approved the 2017. When I first got here, the city was running behind. I got here in December of last year. When we submitted our request to GDOT, our 2016 list should have been completed. [2:39:32, 2:39:44]: But it hadn't, so we actually did the 2016 when I first got here. So if we approve the 2018 tonight, that gets us back on the cycle that GDOT would like for us to be on. [2:39:45, 2:39:48]: Okay, you've heard the presentation. Do I hear a motion? [2:39:48, 2:39:58]: Mayor Nell. Yes, ma'am. I move that we approve the um proposal for the um tw 2018 LMIG. [2:39:59, 2:40:01]: We serve. All right, we have a motion. Do I hear a second? [2:40:02, 2:40:22]: I second that. We have a second. Is there discussion on the LMIG? I have one question. In terms of uh Hudson Bridge and Eagles Landing Park, are those county roles that wouldn't apply? Because Hudson Bridge is in really bad shape. Is that on the list or how do we get that on the road? Well Hudson Bridge is a [2:40:22, 2:40:42]: County maintained road I guess through your service delivery strategy, uh Henry County took some some of those roads, so that would be an issue with Henry County. Okay, so it'd be Henry County. Yes. And then uh one about the the the the the Winslow and Eagles Landing community, which is my community with all due respect to uh [2:40:42, 2:41:02]: transparency. Uh they're doing the campground road extension through there. So has there been any coordination with the county and these L Mig to'cause they're talking about that project being finished now within the next twelve months. So we don't want them to, you know, finish the road project and we don't have any funding dedicated to [2:41:01, 2:41:21]: uh those particular roads. I do not live beyond that road but the Wimbrook Road crosses it. Um is that um is that could could can some consideration be paid to that. We can always look at doing a change order if something needs to be added. We did that in two thousand with the two thousand sixteen list but we're [2:41:21, 2:41:33]: working off a list that the city had prepared, had all the roles rated, so we're working off that list. But if there are some roles that we need to look at while we're doing this project, we can do that as a change order. Thank you. [2:41:34, 2:41:39]: Okay, we've had a motion, second, and discussion. Any all right, Mr. Blount. [2:41:39, 2:41:49]: Mr. Dacius, uh, real quick, with this number that you have on it, would that number increase with any private uh with with with uh any private entities that would increase this number? [2:41:50, 2:42:00]: Excuse me sir. The work on here, would that number increase with any uh if we did some additional roads, but this is what the actual cost would be to do those roads? [2:42:02, 2:42:07]: It's five miles a road, it's a list of roads that should be in your package. [2:42:09, 2:42:14]: And with the 2017 and 18 you actually get ten miles of of roads resurfaced. [2:42:16, 2:42:22]: Okay, we've had a motion, we've had a second, we've had discussion. Um all in favor? [2:42:23, 2:42:26]: Thank you for your vote. Thank you, Mr. Aaron. [2:42:27, 2:42:42]: All right, item number twelve, council consideration to select vendor to complete the city's comprehensive plan update in the amount of ninety-seven thousand five hundred. This is gonna be presented by Donald Riley, our procurement specialist. [2:42:43, 2:43:03]: Mr. Raleigh. Yes. Good evening, Madam Mayor and Council members. I'm here for the request for approval of a proposal in the amount of$97,500 with the collaborative firm LLC in collaboration with Pond LLC, Atlanta Joy. [2:43:03, 2:43:23]: for the purchase for the purchase of professional services for a comprehensive plan. This is for one year with two one-year renewals. In accordance with the Stockbridge Procurement Code, Section 3.30.080C request for approval of a competitive COP [2:43:23, 2:43:26]: proposal shall be approved by the City Council. [2:43:27, 2:43:47]: The funding for this is out of the Planning and Development Services Professional Services account. We had two vendors to propose and this will help us become in compliance with the Henry County 2030 Unified Plan and Atlanta Regional Commission comprehensive. [2:43:47, 2:44:02]: plan for 2040. The correction to this is the actual bid number. The bid number is 17RFP 071717-DRR. [2:44:03, 2:44:08]: All right, you've heard the presentation. Do I hear a motion to move forward? [2:44:09, 2:44:11]: So so move. [2:44:11, 2:44:15]: Second. Okay, we have a motion and we have a second. Is there any discussion? [2:44:16, 2:44:20]: No discussion, then we'll call for the vote. All in favor? [2:44:21, 2:44:33]: All right, thank you very much. It looks like um it's nine thirty. We have spent three and a half. Oh, eight thirty. Oh didn't change the clock, I thought. [2:44:33, 2:44:51]: All right, it's 8 30, so we we've been here two and a half hours. Uh but we have finished our agenda for the evening, except I need to ask our attorney, do we have executive session items? Yes, ma'am, for personnel, litigation, and real estate. All right. Um [2:44:51, 2:44:59]: Let me before we go there, uh let me ask just real quick if our city manager has any la last minute comments. [2:44:59, 2:45:02]: Um I have no further comments. [2:45:02, 2:45:07]: No comments. All right, how about from our city clerk? No comments. [2:45:08, 2:45:13]: I'm gonna pray that we have no comments coming down the council. Do we have any roll. [2:45:15, 2:45:15]: One [2:45:16, 2:45:36]: All right. No comments. So great. Thank you. I always do. I just want to thank everybody for tuning uh tuning in or being able to watch it uh at some point and all the people that participated uh on tonight. Uh I want to just further say that um to uh we we attended a fabulous meeting at the state [2:45:36, 2:45:56]: Capitol in regards to the proposed uh city of Eagles Landing. I want to thank all of those citizens that took the time uh and their own vehicles down to the state capitol and everybody, the staff did an absolutely fabulous job. Uh there will be a press release on uh the [2:45:56, 2:46:16]: The uh feasibility study that verifies what the council said in terms of the damage that would be done to the city of Stockbridge. And I also want the Eagles Landing Committee uh and the citizens in their area which I am a part of to understand I'm listening. We have heard you and uh we have heard [2:46:15, 2:46:30]: those concerns and we believe that we could talk with you, work with you as Mr. Alvers says, and that we just need to listen to each other and w w w work out the differences and keep our city together. Thank you so much. [2:46:31, 2:46:34]: Okay. Any other comments from council members? [2:46:35, 2:46:36]: Mr. Blythe. [2:46:37, 2:46:57]: On the um I just want to make a quick uh announcement. On November 18th, we're gonna have no well in November. It's a toy drive for uh it's for toy drive for um low income families and those kids that are looking for a toy under the tree. So it's a toy drive on November 18th at the Murray Manders Conference Center at 111 uh Davis Road. Uh [2:46:57, 2:47:09]: Uh and I would ask everyone uh to come out, bring a toy for a child and uh let's make a child smile on Christmas. Uh and I just November the eighteenth at uh I think it starts at six o'clock, no well in November. [2:47:09, 2:47:29]: Thank you, Mr. Blount. Any other comments going down the dais? Yes, Mayor, thank you. I want to echo the uh comments in the sense that uh Councilman Alexander just mentioned about the support from the citizens that attended the uh our actual briefing to the uh Senate committee at the State House uh last past week. So I think it was great. [2:47:29, 2:47:49]: that uh we were there, folks were there to support the city's position, and of course we got a chance to listen to the opposition in this aspect as well. So hopefully in the long run that it'll work out for the best for the citizens overall and that we can come to some viable uh resolution that makes sense and has and in a sense of for the city and the entire [2:47:49, 2:48:09]: community period. On that note I want to tell folks we had an outstanding Veterans Day luncheon and parade this past week within the last week here. So it's a great event. It was our biggest event thus far for our parade participants. Well over 650 I think participants were in that. So we have a bright [2:48:09, 2:48:29]: future for that parade and that activity itself. And uh I want to also thank the citizens deep from my heart and I'm really humbled by the fact that uh you went out to the voting booth and you actually uh elected me, give me the next mayor of the city of Stockbridge. I I really appreciate that. Thank that thank you for that. And uh but obviously I have a big task. [2:48:29, 2:48:49]: to uh to stand up to the standards and to work with the council and listen to you citizens as we move the city forward. I'm up for the task. I know you'll keep me on task in that aspect. I would imagine I'll probably get bald and greater fat uh greater faster, but that's all right. I'll I'll make it work. As long as I'm healthy, I'll be all right. And so will the council. [2:48:49, 2:49:09]: So thank you for your support and hopefully God that that overall that we'll be able to satisfy the requirements from the majority of the people most of the time. And uh we and constantly uh we'll be hearing from you and obviously be hearing from us and and God willing will do good things and and move the city forward. I really appreciate your efforts on that and and the support that you've given me and I I won't [2:49:09, 2:49:29]: want to let you down. And along with the council, of course, I have to work with the council to make things work. The other thing is happy Thanksgiving to everybody. Enjoy your holidays with your family, your friends, your loved ones, and uh enjoy yourselves and enjoy the and get as you get ready for the the holiday season in a sense. So and uh continue to believe in us and believe in the city and as we move it forward. [2:49:29, 2:49:30]: God bless you all. Thank you. [2:49:30, 2:49:45]: Thank you, Mr. Ford. Uh Ms. Gantt or Miss Um Robinson. Either one have any comments? I just want to thank everyone for their support. Um another four years. I'm excited about that. I love to serve and um have a great Thanksgiving. [2:49:47, 2:50:07]: Ms. Robinson. Yes, thank you, Mayor. Just want to thank everyone for coming to the Capitol to stand with the City of Stockbridge. We also, again, like my other colleagues said, we were listening to what the opposition was stating. So we were listening, and we're here to serve the entire city. [2:50:07, 2:50:27]: City of Stockbridge citizens. So whatever we can do, please come to our meetings so that way we can hear your voice because your voice needs to be heard. Also, lastly, we would ask that the council and our citizens would pray for our youth council as we travel to Charlotte, North Carolina. [2:50:27, 2:50:47]: To attend National League of Cities, which will be the first that Stockbridge in history will be taking youth to attend this awesome national conference. So we're excited about that. We'll leave out on Wednesday, so definitely keep us in your prayers as we take our kids for this awesome opportunity to see things. [2:50:47, 2:51:07]: things on a national level um in government. So it's a great opportunity. So again, thank you for staff. We did have our executive assistant to start, so we just want to welcome her for coming aboard to be a part of the team. So we just want to welcome you and we look forward to working with you with this youth count. [2:51:07, 2:51:08]: With this um [2:51:09, 2:51:29]: Council, so um thank you so much and to our staff, Ms. Moore, thank you so very much for all that you do, as well as city manager, our clerk, deputy clerk, our attorney, and our other staff, public works, everyone. So thank you all so much for your service that you do for the city. Thank you. [2:51:30, 2:51:33]: Thank you. Now we need a motion to go to executive session. [2:51:34, 2:51:41]: Mayor Neil, I move that we go into executive session for litigation, real estate and personnel matters. [2:51:41, 2:51:42]: All right. [2:51:42, 2:51:50]: We have a motion uh by Ms. Gantt. We have a second by Mr. Blount to go to executive session. Uh any discussion. [2:51:51, 2:51:53]: If not, all in favor. [2:51:54, 2:51:55]: Thank you so much. [2:51:56, 2:51:57]: Well I HR. [2:52:04, 2:52:05]: I am [2:52:25, 2:52:45]: Um [2:52:45, 2:52:55]: Uh oh. Mike, you know you need to get it. [2:53:01, 2:53:10]: Don't mind that. [2:53:20, 2:53:24]: Where are you going with your book? [2:53:25, 2:53:27]: Wien du hast. [2:53:30, 2:53:40]: This is a problem of personality. [2:53:42, 2:54:02]: Well I changed more specifically what it's in terms of that. [2:54:02, 2:54:10]: [10453.2, 10456.1]: [2:54:18, 2:54:25]: Yeah, you know what's very interesting. [2:54:26, 2:54:28]: Um that's [2:54:30, 2:54:36]: as far as how how much you can actually actually [2:54:38, 2:54:50]: Yeah, I think so. I think we can uh [2:54:55, 2:54:58]: Uh yeah, I'm not sure. [2:55:00, 2:55:05]: [10506.7, 10511.2]: Oh, it's not a time. [2:55:16, 2:55:36]: One that's one thing. Right shield. The other one is one back three years. [2:55:35, 2:55:55]: Yeah, uh she could make that you'll be a time. [2:55:55, 2:56:15]: Yeah, I'm just going to I have a force. I'm just gonna have a touch for the boys. Yeah, because this is like a one of the things. [2:56:16, 2:56:30]: Well that's like right. Yeah, and then you're going to be called. Yeah, yeah, I know. [2:56:32, 2:56:50]: Yeah, one two more reasons. Yeah, two more. [2:56:50, 2:56:52]: Okay. [2:57:10, 2:57:17]: [10639.4, 10641.1]: No. [2:57:25, 2:57:26]: Well I have [2:57:26, 2:57:33]: Yeah, I think that's a good thing. [2:57:33, 2:57:40]: Oh yeah, but yeah, it's all right. [2:57:41, 2:57:52]: Alright, the A little bit of follows the [2:57:55, 2:58:15]: Yes. [2:58:15, 2:58:26]: I just also [2:58:26, 2:58:46]: Yeah, I'm not sure what yeah. I have that we think it's back. See my big up in the room. [2:58:46, 2:59:06]: problem that I have stuff and I try to take it up in the living people. So that's why I can really talk to be a health. That's why you feel helpful anyway. So so the way that's supposed to work is you guys still like the sort of computer. So it's like [2:59:06, 2:59:10]: [10757.6, 10765.1]: the actual computer itself or the actual extra [2:59:26, 2:59:31]: Uh anyway, everything. [2:59:32, 2:59:42]: Yeah, nobody really has new function. Well that used to be a six week more than [2:59:42, 2:59:52]: We handle the work in it, we can work on equipment, and that's right. [2:59:52, 3:00:07]: Alright, let's see how many three I've got to do. [3:00:42, 3:00:43]: We have [3:01:30, 3:01:35]: I will say that. [3:01:36, 3:01:40]: And you know, [3:01:46, 3:01:48]: Oh yeah, yeah. [3:01:48, 3:01:55]: How do you hold this cold not seeing that? [3:01:55, 3:01:57]: Oh yeah, [3:01:58, 3:01:59]: Yeah. [3:01:59, 3:02:02]: And then [3:02:04, 3:02:20]: Hey, when I said uh thing you want to say, I hope it'll know I just finish just boop it's tricky from that. [3:02:20, 3:02:35]: He's like okay. I think it's out of it. I thought we were seeing all the questions. [3:02:35, 3:02:36]: Okay. [3:02:42, 3:02:48]: Ooh, ooh, too much cheap. [3:02:49, 3:02:50]: Wow. [3:02:51, 3:02:52]: Yeah. [3:02:52, 3:02:54]: Oh [3:02:54, 3:03:14]: We we we try to do it uh that's what you want uh school. What happened? That's right. [3:03:14, 3:03:31]: And that's the road back. She likes it. [3:03:32, 3:03:35]: Yeah. [3:03:46, 3:03:48]: Thank you. [3:03:49, 3:04:02]: So yeah, we're gonna come here. You are someone. [3:04:02, 3:04:05]: Yeah, that's it. [3:04:10, 3:04:14]: [11055.0, 11071.8]: [3:04:35, 3:04:36]: Mm-hmm. Yeah. [3:04:50, 3:04:50]: Mm-hmm. [3:04:51, 3:04:54]: [11097.7, 11100.8]: Yeah, yeah. [3:05:15, 3:05:18]: I don't know. [3:05:23, 3:05:25]: [11131.9, 11137.1]: Here, here, here, [3:05:37, 3:05:40]: Oh my god. [3:06:11, 3:06:15]: [11179.9, 11199.9]: No, it's all right. The bridge through the thing. [3:06:39, 3:06:47]: Well this is not a T [3:06:48, 3:06:50]: Yes, I do. Um I [3:06:53, 3:06:55]: [11222.7, 11242.7]: They have no cool how no it is uh you think of uh the XP D. Yeah, uh that's real estate, yeah, they don't need to be a good idea. [3:07:22, 3:07:32]: You put on this common. Yeah. I reverse the fans. Yeah, yeah. [3:07:34, 3:07:54]: Oh no. Yeah. Somebody's a thousand. Oh yeah. Trust me, I'm cheering for five dollars now. Oh. I don't know what it is. I love the way they were trying to care if I would be [3:07:54, 3:08:06]: or yellow one pin you put black and red on the first. So I need to possibly give it to you. She's a tell. [3:08:06, 3:08:11]: Black, black blue, that's all you do, that's very good. [3:08:13, 3:08:16]: You just add a bit the spring a little bit. [3:08:16, 3:08:25]: No, these are the same. Yeah, you did not take my idea. Yeah. Yeah, these are. [3:08:26, 3:08:46]: Oh Ski Allen. Oh, open. Well, this is the outlet is company. [3:08:45, 3:08:50]: So they're not. [3:08:50, 3:08:55]: Well the receiving local spirit. [3:08:55, 3:09:13]: That was too much at one time. So did anybody know that they want to play on the office every call or something like that? Okay, they have to. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. [3:09:18, 3:09:21]: There's a [3:09:21, 3:09:23]: That's true. [3:09:23, 3:09:25]: Are you gonna go? [3:09:27, 3:09:28]: Right. [3:09:35, 3:09:37]: Yeah, that's [3:09:38, 3:09:40]: I don't know what's getting. [3:09:58, 3:10:16]: [11417.7, 11420.0]: [3:10:35, 3:10:45]: I call it probably. [3:12:39, 3:12:40]: Yeah. [3:12:41, 3:12:42]: Yeah. [3:13:00, 3:13:10]: I would not take this. Now they're the same as the. [3:13:10, 3:13:29]: My look out of the people came to give it to the end of the year. Um data for that, you go with that. [3:13:53, 3:13:55]: Okay, I think it's name. [3:13:58, 3:14:00]: He got the [3:14:10, 3:14:10]: Yeah. [3:14:13, 3:14:17]: [11658.3, 11662.1]: Maybe it's not all too well. [3:14:28, 3:14:35]: Yeah, maybe I think it's just like one day here, so [3:14:47, 3:14:48]: Yeah, that's it. [3:16:31, 3:16:34]: Uh [3:32:20, 3:32:22]: So yeah. [3:35:12, 3:35:15]: [12918.5, 12925.0]: [3:49:43, 3:49:45]: Ready? [3:49:55, 3:50:05]: Oh I guess we want to go for you don't need to come in, good fine. I can go? Okay. Thank you. [3:51:25, 3:51:25]: Ha ha [4:09:50, 4:09:51]: Yeah. [4:09:53, 4:09:55]: Yeah. [4:13:20, 4:13:31]: I ought to do something about this holding it ridiculous. Ridiculous. It wouldn't be too bad if it was like ninety-five degrees outside. Yeah, it looks hell that's hard. [4:13:32, 4:13:34]: But you can't. [4:14:05, 4:14:06]: And that's [4:14:32, 4:14:38]: We are returning after executive session. I need a motion to return to our meeting. [4:14:41, 4:14:45]: And mayor, I'll let the motion make a motion that we end the executive session. [4:14:46, 4:14:54]: All right. We have m a motion to a hear a second. Okay. Thank you. Is there any discussion? Yes, Mayor. [4:14:55, 4:15:11]: Okay. No no no. Yeah, I'm sorry. No discussion. Okay, no discussion. Um all in favor of ending executive session. Thank you very much. Now I need a motion to take us back into the meeting, to the council meeting. So move. Have a motion. Do I hear a second? [4:15:13, 4:15:16]: We have a motion and a second to return to the council meeting. [4:15:17, 4:15:19]: Uh any discussion on that? [4:15:20, 4:15:25]: If not, um all in favor. Now then at this [4:15:26, 4:15:37]: I'll say yes. All in favor? Okay. Thank you. Now then, um uh we have uh item I believe that we need a motion on. Would you [4:15:38, 4:15:38]: Let's [4:15:39, 4:15:51]: Robinson, are you gonna present a motion to us? Yes, ma'am. I make a motion to authorize a resolution for temporary staff support for the youth council program. I second. [4:15:52, 4:15:56]: Okay, we have a motion and then we have a second. [4:15:56, 4:15:58]: Any discussion? [4:15:59, 4:16:02]: No discussion. Then all in favor? [4:16:03, 4:16:04]: Thank you. [4:16:04, 4:16:18]: Now then we have one other thing. We need a motion to end our session for the evening. So move. Okay. I second. All right. We have a motion and we have a second to end our meeting. Is there discussion on that? [4:16:20, 4:16:23]: If no discussion, then all in favor? [4:16:23, 4:16:25]: Thank you for your presence this evening. [4:16:30, 4:16:40]: I'll take it off that um which you put it in there wrong. Okay. Yeah. [4:17:00, 4:17:00]: [15422.3, 15425.0]: Thought about this, but I'll add it to you now. [4:17:35, 4:17:38]: The line on I [4:17:43, 4:17:45]: That's what I'm getting in my book. All right. [4:17:51, 4:17:53]: Yeah, it's not. [4:17:55, 4:18:12]: Everything's not going to be like a lot of people. What's your mind? Don't say it if it doesn't work. [4:18:12, 4:18:21]: Yeah then other thing will the air at the night. Yep. [4:18:22, 4:18:38]: I said we'll put three calls out when they didn't turn it back and then the next day. But what should we do in this point at the time? That's the way into accounting that before you call me. Right. [4:18:38, 4:18:58]: And they wanna know why it's out for bid, right? We started when they say they're not contracting the read, they're not doing the motion to y'all know they're taking. If we don't do a contract with them, they're not doing more. So we don't have the other people details. [4:18:58, 4:19:00]: No we won't know that. [4:19:00, 4:19:09]: Well it's in the case. [4:19:10, 4:19:16]: So I'll just I'll let that be so [4:19:17, 4:19:19]: Okay. [4:19:20, 4:19:25]: That was familiar. There were no planning commissioners like oh tonight. [4:19:29, 4:19:30]: Mm-hmm. [4:19:36, 4:19:37]: Okay. [4:21:20, 4:21:21]: Do you know what? [4:22:24, 4:22:26]: